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GOOD MORNING WILL START AS A
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WELCOME TO ASSEMBLY COMMITTEE OF
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PUBLIC SAFETY WILL BEGIN AS A
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SUBCOMMITTEE.
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OF THE FOLLOWING ITEMS HAVE BEEN
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PULLED BY THE AUTHORS --
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ITEM NUMBER TWO SB EIGHT TO FIVE
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BELT STATE PRISONS PRE
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APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM AN ITEM
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NUMBER FOURTEEN S. B. TWELVE
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SIXTY SIX PORTANTINO BURGLARY
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[inaudible]
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WE HAVE.
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WE'RE READY BEGAN WE BEGIN THE
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SUBCOMMITTEE WE HAVE ONE
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AUTHORED READY TO GO AS USUAL AT
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NINE O'CLOCK PROMPTLY ON TIME.
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AND THAT SIZE SENATOR HILL S. B..
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ELEVEN EIGHTY SIX ITEM NUMBER
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TEN YOU MAY BEGIN THANK YOU VERY
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MUCH MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS S. B.
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ELEVEN EIGHTY SIX INSURANCE THAT
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STATE LAW KEEPS UP WITH LAW
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ENFORCEMENT'S RAPID ADOPTION OF
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SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGIES.
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WITH THE AMENDMENTS MADE IN
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SENATE APPROPRIATIONS S. B.
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ELEVEN EIGHTY SIX APPLIES THE
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EXACT SAME POLICY IN PLACE. FOR
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LICENSE PLATE READERS AND
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CELLPHONE INTERCEPTED VICES TO
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ALL SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY USED
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BY LAW ENFORCEMENT.
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THE LICENSE PLATE READER INSULT
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CELL PHONE INTERCEPTS DEVICE
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LEGISLATION PASSED OFF OF OUR
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FLOOR THIS THIS FOUR ACTUALLY
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WITH BROAD BIPARTISAN SUPPORT.
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IF THE POLICE WANT TO SEARCH
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YOUR PHONE YOUR CAR OR YOUR
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HOUSE THEY HAVE TO GET A WARRANT
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BUT MANY AGENCIES HAVE
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TECHNOLOGY THAT CONTRACT WHERE
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YOU GO WHO YOU TALK.
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TO AND WHAT YOU SAY IN PUBLIC
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PLACES WITHOUT ANY SAFEGUARDS
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OVER ONE HUNDRED LAW ENFORCEMENT
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AGENCIES IN THE STATE ARE
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THOUGHT TO USE SOME TYPE OF
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SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY.
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IN MANY DEPLOY MULTIPLE KINDS
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INCLUDING FACIAL RECOGNITION
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TECHNOLOGY AND SOFTWARE THAT CAN
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MONITOR SOCIAL MEDIA WEBSITES.
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THIS MEANS SURVEILLANCE
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TECHNOLOGY WILL BE SUBJECT TO
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PUBLIC DISCLOSURE AND LOCAL
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LEGISLATIVE REVIEW.
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THE BILL PROVIDES AN EXIGENCY
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COMPS DANCE PROVISION TO LAW
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ENFORCEMENT TO ALLOW THEM TO USE
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UNAPPROVED SURVEILLANCE DEVICES
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IN EMERGENCY SITUATIONS LAW
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ENFORCEMENT GROUPS WILL ARGUE
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THAT CREATING TRANSPARENCY
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PROVIDES OF SURVEILLANCE ROADMAP
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TO CRIMINALS.
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THIS IS NOT THE CASE THE MERE
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KNOWLEDGE OF A POLICE TACTIC
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DOES NOT RENDER IT USELESS THERE
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ARE ALREADY LAWS MANDATING THE
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DISCLOSURE OF WIRE TAPS.
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AND LICENSE PLATE READERS IN
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BOTH TECHNOLOGIES STILL HELP
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CATCH CRIMINALS SOME CONCERNS
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MAY ALSO BE EXPRESSED BY THE
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BREADTH OF SURVEILLANCE
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TECHNOLOGIES COVERED BY THIS
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BILL.
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SB ELEVEN EIGHTY SIX RECOGNIZES
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THE WIDE AND EVER CHANGING ARRAY
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OF STUFF RIGHT SURVEILLANCE
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TECHNOLOGIES AT THE DISPOSAL OF
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LAW ENFORCEMENT NOW AND IN THE
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FUTURE.
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THE GOAL IS TO BE SPECIFIC
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ENOUGH TO CAPTURE THE
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APPROPRIATE SURVEILLANCE DEVICES
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BUT NOT OVERLY PRESCRIPTIVE SURE
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THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO RUN A BILL
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EACH YEAR.
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AND EACH TIME A NEW TECHNOLOGIES
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INVENTED.
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INCLUSION OF LIKE TO MAKE ONE
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THING VERY BILL DOES NOT
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PROHIBIT LAW ENFORCEMENT FROM
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USING SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY TO
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FIGHT CRIME IT SIMPLY.
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TAKES EXISTING STANDARDS FOR
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LICENSE PLATE READERS AND
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CELLPHONE INTERCEPT DEVICES AND
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APPLIES THEM TO ALL SURVEILLANCE
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DEVICES.
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I SUPPORT USING TECHNOLOGY TO
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INCREASE PUBLIC SAFETY BUT WE
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NEED TO SAFEGUARD BASIC CIVIL
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LIBERTIES FROM POTENTIAL ABUSES.
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I WILL RESPECTFULLY ASK DR OF
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MEMBERS AND I'VE WITNESSES IN
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SUPPORT.
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THANK YOU YOU HAVE WITNESSES.
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MORE IN THE NATURE MEMBERS KEVIN
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BIG AMERICAN CIVIL LIBERTIES
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UNION OF CALIFORNIA WE BELIEVE
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THAT LOCAL CONTROL THROUGH LOCAL
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PUBLIC [inaudible]
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SCHOOLS IS THE BEST WAY TO
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ASSURE THE LOCAL VALUES AND
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PRIORITIES ARE REFLECTED IN
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THESE LOCAL PUBLIC SAFETY
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DECISIONS.
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AS SENATOR HILL INDICATED THIS
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POWERFUL NEW TECHNOLOGIES MAY BE
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GOOD AND USEFUL FOR LAW
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ENFORCEMENT AND THEY ARE
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CERTAINLY APPROPRIATE MANY CASES.
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AND BUT WE SHOULD ALSO KEEP IN
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MIND THAT THEY HAVE POTENTIAL
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RISKS FOR INTRUSION INTO GUN.
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PERSONAL PRIVACY OF INNOCENT
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PEOPLE AND CAN
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DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACT
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COMMUNITIES OF COLOR.
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WE'VE ALSO SEEN THAT THE FEDERAL
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GOVERNMENT HAS HAD AND ACCESS TO
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DATABASES WRONG FROM LOCAL LAW
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ENFORCEMENT SUCH AS THE LICENSE
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PLATE READER --
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THAT IS USED TO TRACK PEOPLE'S
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MOVEMENTS AND THE IMMIGRATION
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OFFICIALS HAVE BEEN USING THAT.
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SUBSCRIBING TO THAT DATABASE AND
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YET --
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ACCORDING TO PUBLISHED REPORTS
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AND YET WHEN THE ACLU HAS ASKED
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FOR RECORDS.
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REGARDING --
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THAT -- I
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PRACTICE ON THAT WE'VE BEEN
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FORCED TO SUE ICE FOUND FOR
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THEIR REFUSAL TO TURN OVER
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INFORMATION ON THAT PROGRAM.
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SO WE BELIEVE THAT THIS BILL IS
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ESSENTIAL FOR TRANSPARENCY AND
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ACCOUNTABILITY PUBLIC TRUST.
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VERY SIMILAR TO A BILL ON THAT
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THIS COMMITTEE HEARD AND TO BY
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MR GLORIA A. B. THIRTY ONE
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THIRTY ONE WHICH THE COMMITTEE
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PASSED A FEW WEEKS AGO.
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REGARDING THE ACQUISITION USE OF
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MILITARY EQUIPMENT ALSO VERY
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SIMILAR TO BUILD THE COMMITTEE
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PASSED LAST YEAR SIN BY SENATOR
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HILL SP TWENTY ONE EXCEPT THIS
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BILL WAS EVEN NEAR WHERE --
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AND WE WOULD ASK FOR YOUR AYE
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SPORT THANK YOU.
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THANK YOU ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
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SUPPORT.
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ANY WITNESS IN OPPOSITION.
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THE MORNING GOOD MORNING MISTER
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CHAIR AND MEMBERS WHO SHALL MUCH
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LOWER ON BEHALF THE CALIFORNIA
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STATE SHERIFFS ASSOCIATION.
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I RESPECTFULLY IN OPPOSITION TO
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SB ELEVEN EIGHTY SIX WE'VE HAD --
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I CONVERSATIONS WITH THE AUTHOR
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OR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS ON
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THIS ISSUE --
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ABOUT WE MUST RESPECTFULLY
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CONTINUE OPPOSITION WE'RE VERY
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CONCERNED ABOUT THE REQUIREMENT
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AND THAT SHARE OF SUBMIT INITIAL
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SURVEILLANCE POLICY UP FOR
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APPROVAL.
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AS WELL AS AMENDMENTS BASED ON
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FUTURE TECHNOLOGY ACQUISITION
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AND TO THE COUNTY BOARD OF
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SUPERVISORS I AM.
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SHERIFFS ARE AYE INDEPENDENT
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ELECTED OFFICIALS AND
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RESPECTFULLY I'M SHOULD NOT BE
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REQUIRED TO OBTAIN DATA APPROVAL
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OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS
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BEFORE DETERMINING HOW TO BEST
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CARRY OUT THEIR DUTY TO PROTECT
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THE PUBLIC SAFETY.
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AND IN FACT BY LIMITING THE
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ABILITY OF THE SHERIFF TO
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ACQUIRE SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY
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WITHOUT THE PRIOR CONSIDERATION
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OF THAT POLICY BY THE BOARD S.
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B. ELEVEN EIGHTY SIX LIKELY
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VIOLATES THE GOVERNMENT CODE
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SECTION.
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TWENTY FIVE THREE OH THREE WHICH
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STATES IN RELEVANT PART THE
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BOARD OF SUPERVISORS SHALL NOT
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OBSTRUCT INVESTIGATIVE FUNCTION
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OF THE SHERIFF OF THE COUNTY.
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ARMS FORTIES REASONS WE MUST
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RESPECTFULLY [inaudible]
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THANK YOU.
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ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
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OPPOSITION.
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GOOD MORNING CHAIR MEMBERS TING
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SHIPOWNER WITH THE CALIFORNIA
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STATE ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES IN
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OPPOSITION TO SB ELEVEN EIGHTY
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SIX AS WELL THANK YOU.
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TIFFANY MATTHEWS ON BEHALF OF
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THE CALIFORNIA DISTRICT
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ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION IN
00:31:15.440 --> 00:31:15.673
OPPOSITION.
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THANK YOU.
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MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS THE
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COMMITTEE LOUIS BROWN ON BEHALF
00:31:20.178 --> 00:31:21.379
THE CHIEF PROBATION OFFICERS
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CALIFORNIA WE DO NOT HAVE A
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LETTER ON FILE WITH COMMITTEE --
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BUT WE DO HAVE AS SOME CONCERN
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FOR THE BILL THAT WE'VE
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EXPRESSED WITH THE AUTHOR WERE
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PLEASED WITH THE CONVERSATIONS
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WE'VE HAD HOPEFULLY WILL RESOLVE
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THOSE CONCERNS SOON THANK YOU.
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THANK YOU.
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GOOD MORNING CHEN MEMBERS
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JONATHAN WE MISSED THE
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CALIFORNIA POLICE ASSOCIATION
00:31:38.730 --> 00:31:39.130
OPPOSITION [inaudible]
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THANK YOU [inaudible]
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OF AND WE HAVE A CONFLICT.
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WOULD BE FISCAL SECOND WEEK SO
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IN ESTABLISH A CORE [inaudible]
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CALL ROLE.
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JONES SAWYER HERE.
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LACKEY.
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LEO.
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KAMLAGER-DOVE UP [inaudible]
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KILEY [inaudible]
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QUIRK [inaudible]
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SANTIAGO.
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BOB PRESIDENT AND IF YOU GET
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JUST BEAR WITH ME FOR A FEW MORE
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OF WE HAVE TO CONSENT CALENDAR --
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ITEM NUMBER THREE SB NINE SIXTY
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LEYVA DEPARTMENT CORRECTIONS AND
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REHABILITATION SUICIDE
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PREVENTION REPORTS ITEM NUMBER
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FIVE S. B. TANTON BELL.
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PAROLEES SUPPORTIVE OFF HOUSING
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PILOT PROGRAM.
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ITEM NUMBER TWELVE S. B. ELEVEN
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NINETY EIGHT WILK SEX OFFENDERS
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RISK ASSESSMENT ASSESSMENT
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RESEARCH AND FINALLY ITEM NUMBER
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EIGHTEEN S. B..
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NINETEEN I'M EFFING --
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FOURTEEN NINETY FOUR COMMITTEE
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ON PUBLIC SAFETY --
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PUBLIC SAFETY OMNIBUS BILL MOVE
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CONTENT CALENDAR.
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ACTOR KALRA.
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JONES SAWYER.
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I JONES SAWYER AYE LACKEY LACKEY
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I CARILLO.
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KAMLAGER-DOVE.
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KAMLAGER-DOVE AYE KILEY QUIRK.
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QUIRK AYE SANTIAGO.
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SAID CALORIES ADOPTED AND I DO
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ANY QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE
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MEMBERS [inaudible]
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YES THE QUIRK.
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SO I'VE DISCUSSES WITH THE GOOD
00:33:08.019 --> 00:33:08.653
SENATOR --
00:33:08.720 --> 00:33:11.155
SO I VOTED FOR AND EVEN HAD
00:33:11.222 --> 00:33:12.957
BILLS OUT ASKING FOR MORE
00:33:13.024 --> 00:33:14.726
TRANSPARENCY.
00:33:14.792 --> 00:33:16.861
MY CONCERN WITH THIS IS THAT IT
00:33:16.928 --> 00:33:19.731
IS JUST IT'S NOT DEFINING
00:33:19.797 --> 00:33:20.031
[inaudible]
00:33:20.098 --> 00:33:24.235
IN A JUST MUCH TO OPEN --
00:33:24.302 --> 00:33:25.870
I WAS IN INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY
00:33:25.937 --> 00:33:28.373
IN FOR OVER TEN YEARS AND WE
00:33:28.439 --> 00:33:29.407
ALWAYS WANT TO PROTECT SOURCES
00:33:29.474 --> 00:33:31.743
AND METHODS.
00:33:31.809 --> 00:33:33.344
AND WHEN YOU HAVE SOMETHING IS
00:33:33.411 --> 00:33:35.413
COMPLETELY OPEN LIKE THIS
00:33:35.480 --> 00:33:35.713
[inaudible]
00:33:35.780 --> 00:33:37.515
WHERE?
00:33:37.582 --> 00:33:38.950
WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT
00:33:39.016 --> 00:33:40.651
TECHNOLOGY YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
00:33:40.718 --> 00:33:41.819
IT COULD BE THROUGH THIS
00:33:41.886 --> 00:33:43.454
DISCLOSURE.
00:33:43.521 --> 00:33:48.393
THAT YOU ARE GIVING--
00:33:48.459 --> 00:33:50.094
NOTICE TO THE MORE SOPHISTICATED
00:33:50.161 --> 00:33:52.230
MEMBERS OF THE CRIMINAL
00:33:52.296 --> 00:33:53.865
COMMUNITY HOW TO AVOID --
00:33:53.931 --> 00:33:55.767
ENFORCEMENT HOW TO AVOID
00:33:55.833 --> 00:33:57.568
DETECTION --
00:33:57.635 --> 00:33:59.804
IF THE BILL WHERE MORE NARROW I
00:33:59.871 --> 00:34:01.773
THINK I COULD --
00:34:01.839 --> 00:34:03.741
IF IT DISCUSSED PARTICULAR TYPE
00:34:03.808 --> 00:34:06.511
OF TECHNOLOGY AND I VOTED.
00:34:06.577 --> 00:34:07.612
FOR LIMITING --
00:34:07.678 --> 00:34:09.480
ARE AT LEAST DISCLOSING THINGS
00:34:09.547 --> 00:34:10.882
LIKE.
00:34:10.948 --> 00:34:13.251
CAMBER READER AT LICENSE PLATE
00:34:13.317 --> 00:34:14.819
READERS WITH CAMERAS.
00:34:14.886 --> 00:34:18.022
DRONES AT CETERA BUT TO BE JUST
00:34:18.089 --> 00:34:19.424
COMPLETELY OPEN LIKE THIS I
00:34:19.490 --> 00:34:20.858
DON'T FEEL I CAN SUPPORT THE
00:34:20.925 --> 00:34:22.160
BILL AT THIS TIME.
00:34:22.226 --> 00:34:23.694
UP YOU CAN --
00:34:23.761 --> 00:34:24.295
ANSWER ME IN YOUR CLOSE THANK
00:34:24.362 --> 00:34:25.763
YOU.
00:34:25.830 --> 00:34:27.265
OKAY ANY OTHER QUESTIONS
00:34:27.331 --> 00:34:27.565
[inaudible]
00:34:27.632 --> 00:34:29.500
OKAY.
00:34:29.567 --> 00:34:31.669
MR HILL WITH THANK YOU VERY MUCH
00:34:31.736 --> 00:34:33.638
MISTER CHAIR THANK YOU TO TO
00:34:33.704 --> 00:34:34.872
ASSEMBLY MEMBER QUIRK FOR A
00:34:34.939 --> 00:34:35.807
FIRST QUESTION AND FOR OUR
00:34:35.873 --> 00:34:37.542
CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE WE'VE
00:34:37.608 --> 00:34:39.010
HAD -- YOU
00:34:39.076 --> 00:34:40.178
KNOW IS A LOOK AT THE THE
00:34:40.244 --> 00:34:43.014
LEGISLATION AND THE HISTORY OVER --
00:34:43.080 --> 00:34:44.449
SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY WHEN WE
00:34:44.515 --> 00:34:46.117
STARTED WITH LICENSE PLATE
00:34:46.184 --> 00:34:47.852
READERS AND THEN WE THE NEXT
00:34:47.919 --> 00:34:49.821
YEAR WE ALL OF SUDDEN DISCOVERED
00:34:49.887 --> 00:34:50.721
THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT HAD BEEN
00:34:50.788 --> 00:34:52.457
USING THE CELLULAR INTERCEPTED
00:34:52.523 --> 00:34:54.926
VICES IN LOCATIONS THAT UP.
00:34:54.992 --> 00:34:57.195
AND IN A MANNER THAT --
00:34:57.261 --> 00:34:59.163
WASBASICALLY FOR A FREE FOR ALL
00:34:59.230 --> 00:35:00.765
CIRCUMSTANCE ROUTE WITH NO
00:35:00.832 --> 00:35:03.568
CONTROLS OVER IT AND EVEN ONE
00:35:03.634 --> 00:35:05.236
CITY WAS USING IT DIDN'T FLY
00:35:05.303 --> 00:35:05.536
[inaudible]
00:35:05.603 --> 00:35:07.872
THAT A CHALLENGE THAT WE'RE
00:35:07.939 --> 00:35:08.906
FACED WITH IS THAT THE
00:35:08.973 --> 00:35:11.242
TECHNOLOGY IS IS DEVELOPING SO
00:35:11.309 --> 00:35:13.044
RAPIDLY THAT IT'S IMPOSSIBLE FOR
00:35:13.110 --> 00:35:15.713
US TO CONTINUOUSLY CONTINUALLY.
00:35:15.780 --> 00:35:18.382
WAIT UNTIL WE GET SITE OF
00:35:18.449 --> 00:35:20.017
UNDERSTAND HER SHE OR SOMEONE
00:35:20.084 --> 00:35:22.420
EXPOSES A PIECE OF TECHNOLOGY --
00:35:22.487 --> 00:35:23.654
AND THEN WE HAVE TO DO
00:35:23.721 --> 00:35:26.057
LEGISLATION THIS COVERS ALL OF
00:35:26.123 --> 00:35:27.758
THE LEGISLATION OR ALL OF THAT.
00:35:27.825 --> 00:35:29.894
ANY NEW TECHNOLOGY THAT IS
00:35:29.961 --> 00:35:31.462
PRESENTED AND THAT NEW
00:35:31.529 --> 00:35:33.331
TECHNOLOGY THAT'S PRESENTED --
00:35:33.397 --> 00:35:34.765
WHAT WE'VE SEEN HISTORICALLY IS
00:35:34.832 --> 00:35:36.267
IT DOESN'T?
00:35:36.334 --> 00:35:38.402
PROJECT PRECLUDE LAW ENFORCEMENT
00:35:38.469 --> 00:35:40.037
FROM CATCHING THE BAD GUYS ARE
00:35:40.104 --> 00:35:41.973
CRIMINALS JUST FOR THE FACT OF
00:35:42.039 --> 00:35:42.940
HAVING IT OR THAT THE PUBLIC
00:35:43.007 --> 00:35:44.342
KNOWS IT THEY KNOW WE DO
00:35:44.408 --> 00:35:45.576
WIRETAPS TODAY.
00:35:45.643 --> 00:35:46.911
THEY STILL TALK ON THE PHONE AND
00:35:46.978 --> 00:35:47.545
SAY THE SAME THINGS THAT THEY
00:35:47.612 --> 00:35:49.080
SHOULDN'T THEY KNOW WE HAVE
00:35:49.146 --> 00:35:50.081
LICENSE PLATE READERS IT PEOPLE
00:35:50.147 --> 00:35:51.315
STILL STEAL CARS.
00:35:51.382 --> 00:35:52.717
AND DRIVE AROUND IN THOSE CARS
00:35:52.783 --> 00:35:54.785
AND GET PICKED UP FROM THEM --
00:35:54.852 --> 00:35:57.221
THIS IS COMMON TECHNOLOGY THAT --
00:35:57.288 --> 00:35:58.556
FROM ONE JURISDICTION TO THE
00:35:58.623 --> 00:36:01.025
NEXT ISN'T SPECIFIC TO THAT
00:36:01.092 --> 00:36:03.194
JURISDICTION FROM UP PERSPECTIVE
00:36:03.261 --> 00:36:05.429
OF A OF A CRIMINAL AND THEY KNOW
00:36:05.496 --> 00:36:07.365
THAT THE TECHNOLOGY IS AVAILABLE
00:36:07.431 --> 00:36:09.233
THEY RECOGNIZE THAT IN THEY USE
00:36:09.300 --> 00:36:10.635
THAT TECHNIQUE THAT THE LAW
00:36:10.701 --> 00:36:12.203
ENFORCEMENT USES THAT TECHNOLOGY.
00:36:12.270 --> 00:36:13.571
I BELIEVE WITHOUT ANY
00:36:13.638 --> 00:36:15.172
RESTRICTION TODAY AND AND IT'S
00:36:15.239 --> 00:36:16.407
VERY SUCCESSFUL AND WE WANT TO
00:36:16.474 --> 00:36:18.142
CONTINUE TO ALLOW THEM TO DO
00:36:18.209 --> 00:36:19.911
THAT WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE.
00:36:19.977 --> 00:36:20.878
AND THAT'S THAT BUT TO ME THE
00:36:20.945 --> 00:36:22.346
MOST IMPORTANT PART THAT THE
00:36:22.413 --> 00:36:24.549
PUBLIC BODY THE ELECTED BODY THE
00:36:24.615 --> 00:36:26.284
CIVILIAN BODY MAKES THOSE
00:36:26.350 --> 00:36:28.319
DECISIONS AND UNDERSTANDS IN A
00:36:28.386 --> 00:36:30.421
PUBLIC FORUM WHAT TYPE OF
00:36:30.488 --> 00:36:32.156
EQUIPMENT IS BEING USED THEIR
00:36:32.223 --> 00:36:33.190
EFFECT WE EFFORT I'VE OF MEMBERS.
00:36:33.257 --> 00:36:34.525
THANK YOU.
00:36:34.592 --> 00:36:35.793
THANK YOU --
00:36:35.860 --> 00:36:38.829
AT AND I RESPECT --
00:36:38.896 --> 00:36:41.065
THAT THE QUESTION OF MISTER
00:36:41.132 --> 00:36:44.302
CORCORAN AND I AND AND I'M.
00:36:44.368 --> 00:36:46.203
WANNA MOVE THIS OUT SO WE CAN
00:36:46.270 --> 00:36:47.371
KEEP THIS GOING I THINK --
00:36:47.438 --> 00:36:50.408
TRANSPARENCY IS REALLY IMPORTANT --
00:36:50.474 --> 00:36:53.077
IF YOU CAN WORK WITH.
00:36:53.144 --> 00:36:54.211
THE COURT HOPEFULLY THAT THIS
00:36:54.278 --> 00:36:56.981
BILL GETS OUT. TO TO TO ADDRESS
00:36:57.048 --> 00:36:57.915
HIS CLAIM.
00:36:57.982 --> 00:36:59.183
ARM BUT I DID WANT TO MENTION
00:36:59.250 --> 00:36:59.483
[inaudible]
00:36:59.550 --> 00:37:03.588
KIND OF TWO THINGS OF BECAUSE OF
00:37:03.654 --> 00:37:04.121
HER JUST HAVE HEARD JUST A
00:37:04.188 --> 00:37:05.856
SECOND TIME.
00:37:05.923 --> 00:37:07.425
ON THIS QUESTION.
00:37:07.491 --> 00:37:09.427
OF AUTHORITY.
00:37:09.493 --> 00:37:11.195
OF A LEGISLATIVE BODY
00:37:11.262 --> 00:37:11.495
[inaudible]
00:37:11.562 --> 00:37:13.464
OVER --
00:37:13.531 --> 00:37:15.566
LAFORTUNE.
00:37:15.633 --> 00:37:16.801
BOB NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE THE
00:37:16.867 --> 00:37:20.838
RIGHT. TO DO THAT IS OUR
00:37:20.905 --> 00:37:23.307
FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY --
00:37:23.374 --> 00:37:25.509
SHERIFF COULD NOT FUND THEM
00:37:25.576 --> 00:37:27.111
SELVES THIS YET NEARLY DONE BY
00:37:27.178 --> 00:37:28.512
THE LEGISLATIVE BODY WE DO THAT
00:37:28.579 --> 00:37:29.714
WITH CHP.
00:37:29.780 --> 00:37:31.682
DO TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE AND
00:37:31.749 --> 00:37:33.751
WE DO THAT ON A LOCAL LEVEL
00:37:33.818 --> 00:37:35.820
BOAST THAT THE COUNTY LEVEL AND
00:37:35.886 --> 00:37:38.456
THE AND THE CITY LEVEL.
00:37:38.522 --> 00:37:40.458
AND IN FACT --
00:37:40.524 --> 00:37:41.792
DIFFICULT DEPARTMENTS CAN'T BE
00:37:41.859 --> 00:37:44.295
FUNDED UNLESS THEY GET APPROVAL
00:37:44.362 --> 00:37:45.396
FROM CITY COUNCIL NOT FROM THE
00:37:45.463 --> 00:37:45.997
MAYOR.
00:37:46.063 --> 00:37:47.164
NOT FROM THE SHERIFF NOTHING
00:37:47.231 --> 00:37:48.199
CONTROL ENOUGH A TREASURE BUT
00:37:48.265 --> 00:37:49.634
FROM.
00:37:49.700 --> 00:37:50.801
THE LEGISLATIVE BODY WOULD THAT
00:37:50.868 --> 00:37:52.470
BE COUNTY BOARD SUPERVISORS ARE
00:37:52.536 --> 00:37:54.739
CITY COUNCIL SO THAT'S WE NEED A
00:37:54.805 --> 00:37:58.309
LY THAT. TO THE SIDE.
00:37:58.376 --> 00:38:00.911
ON TO WHEN IT COMES.
00:38:00.978 --> 00:38:04.715
TO HOW LAW ENFORCEMENT OPERATES --
00:38:04.782 --> 00:38:06.951
WE DON'T WANT TO GET INTO DEMAND.
00:38:07.018 --> 00:38:08.853
A NEW SHOW HOW LAW ENFORCEMENT
00:38:08.919 --> 00:38:11.055
OPERATES A DIRT AS MR PARK SAID.
00:38:11.122 --> 00:38:11.989
THERE'S SOMETHING SAID THE
00:38:12.056 --> 00:38:13.424
PUBLIC PROBABLY SHOULD KNOW
00:38:13.491 --> 00:38:13.824
ORDER [inaudible]
00:38:13.891 --> 00:38:15.626
HOWEVER.
00:38:15.693 --> 00:38:18.195
THERE BEEN TIMES WHERE TECHNIQUE.
00:38:18.262 --> 00:38:19.930
THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT HAS
00:38:19.997 --> 00:38:21.832
ADVOCATED FOR FOR SOMETIME
00:38:21.899 --> 00:38:23.501
CONTINUE TO DO IT DO IT HAVE
00:38:23.567 --> 00:38:29.373
RESULTED.
00:38:29.440 --> 00:38:31.609
IN SOME ADVERSE.
00:38:31.676 --> 00:38:33.144
VERY EFFECTIVE AT KILLING MOSTLY
00:38:33.210 --> 00:38:34.512
AFRICAN AMERICAN MALES.
00:38:34.578 --> 00:38:37.214
BUT IT WASN'T.
00:38:37.281 --> 00:38:39.850
ULTIMATELY WE STOPPED THAT IF WE
00:38:39.917 --> 00:38:41.218
THE LEGISLATIVE BODY HAD NOT
00:38:41.285 --> 00:38:42.319
INTERVENED.
00:38:42.386 --> 00:38:43.688
THE MAYORS AND THE EXECUTIVE
00:38:43.754 --> 00:38:44.588
BRANCH HAD NOT INTERVENED.
00:38:44.655 --> 00:38:46.190
THAT.
00:38:46.257 --> 00:38:48.225
TECHNIQUE POLICY WILL PROBABLY
00:38:48.292 --> 00:38:50.227
BE IN EFFECT TO NOW SO IT'S VERY
00:38:50.294 --> 00:38:51.662
IMPORTANT HAVE SOME TYPE A
00:38:51.729 --> 00:38:53.130
CITIZEN OVERSIGHT.
00:38:53.197 --> 00:38:55.733
ON HOW LAW ENFORCEMENT OPERATES
00:38:55.800 --> 00:38:57.735
ESPECIALLY FOR GOES WRONG.
00:38:57.802 --> 00:38:59.170
IF THE PARTICULAR TECHNIQUES
00:38:59.236 --> 00:39:01.005
ENDS UP WHERE --
00:39:01.072 --> 00:39:02.807
WE HAVE THE UNFORTUNATE INCIDENT
00:39:02.873 --> 00:39:05.710
AWARE ON AN OFFICER SHOOTS ANON
00:39:05.776 --> 00:39:07.978
ARMED PERSON IN THE BACK.
00:39:08.045 --> 00:39:09.313
THAT ITEM WE CAN LOOK AT THE
00:39:09.380 --> 00:39:12.349
POLICIES AND PROCEDURES OF THE
00:39:12.416 --> 00:39:13.918
LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AND SEE
00:39:13.984 --> 00:39:15.619
WHERE THERE'S A PROBLEM AND SO
00:39:15.686 --> 00:39:16.654
THAT WE CAN CORRECT THAT
00:39:16.721 --> 00:39:16.954
[inaudible]
00:39:17.021 --> 00:39:19.890
OTHERWISE.
00:39:19.957 --> 00:39:21.292
WHAT WILL WE HAD WE WOULD HAVE
00:39:21.358 --> 00:39:22.560
ANYTHING AND SO THAT'S WHY IT'S
00:39:22.626 --> 00:39:24.361
SO IMPORTANT HAVE [inaudible]
00:39:24.428 --> 00:39:26.230
NAM TRANSPARENCY.
00:39:26.297 --> 00:39:28.933
SO THAT WE KNOW AND HAVE TRUST
00:39:28.999 --> 00:39:29.800
IN LAW ENFORCEMENT IT DID VALLEY
00:39:29.867 --> 00:39:31.335
DOING THE RIGHT THING BUT WHAT
00:39:31.402 --> 00:39:32.403
THEY'RE DOING IS BASED.
00:39:32.470 --> 00:39:36.674
ON ON ON THE ABILITY TO GET THE
00:39:36.741 --> 00:39:38.209
JOB DONE KEEP LAW ENFORCEMENT
00:39:38.275 --> 00:39:39.477
SAFE.
00:39:39.543 --> 00:39:40.978
BUT ALSO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S
00:39:41.045 --> 00:39:42.379
DEBT THAT WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT
00:39:42.446 --> 00:39:44.615
THING TO DO IN THE MORAL THING.
00:39:44.682 --> 00:39:46.984
AND WITH THAT I'M.
00:39:47.051 --> 00:39:47.752
URGING THAT WE MOVED JUST
00:39:47.818 --> 00:39:48.786
THROUGH.
00:39:48.853 --> 00:39:50.221
I DO BELIEVE MISTER QUIRK HAS
00:39:50.287 --> 00:39:52.890
SOME VALID ISSUES I HOPE.
00:39:52.957 --> 00:39:54.358
HE ALLOWS YOU TO GET THROUGH
00:39:54.425 --> 00:39:55.626
TODAY SO THAT WE CAN WORK
00:39:55.693 --> 00:39:57.094
THROUGH THAT I THAT I DON'T LET
00:39:57.161 --> 00:39:57.595
ANYONE.
00:39:57.661 --> 00:39:59.897
TALK AFTER ME AND I'M LIKE SHUT
00:39:59.964 --> 00:40:01.398
DOWN SOME.
00:40:01.465 --> 00:40:02.333
PEOPLE ON THE OTHER SIDE.
00:40:02.399 --> 00:40:04.268
INSIDE.
00:40:04.335 --> 00:40:05.870
THIS ONE I JUST HOPE THAT WE CAN
00:40:05.936 --> 00:40:07.805
MOVE DECIDED HERE TODAY AND THAT
00:40:07.872 --> 00:40:09.907
YOU WOULD WORK THANK YOU --
00:40:09.974 --> 00:40:12.610
IT'S THERE A MOTION.
00:40:12.676 --> 00:40:19.316
IS THERE A SECOND [inaudible]
00:40:19.383 --> 00:40:21.585
CALDERON.
00:40:21.652 --> 00:40:23.454
ON S. B. ELEVEN EIGHTY SIX THE
00:40:23.521 --> 00:40:24.855
MOTION IS TO PASS TO THE PRIVACY
00:40:24.922 --> 00:40:25.956
AND CONSUMER PROTECTION
00:40:26.023 --> 00:40:28.259
COMMITTEE JONES SAWYER AYE JONES
00:40:28.325 --> 00:40:30.060
SAWYER AYE LACKEY.
00:40:30.127 --> 00:40:31.929
LACKEY NO CARILLO.
00:40:31.996 --> 00:40:34.632
CARILLO AYE KAMLAGER-DOVE.
00:40:34.698 --> 00:40:35.666
KAMLAGER-DOVE I KILEY
00:40:35.733 --> 00:40:35.966
[inaudible]
00:40:36.033 --> 00:40:39.036
QUIRK.
00:40:39.103 --> 00:40:41.138
IN LIEU OF THE REQUEST OF THE
00:40:41.205 --> 00:40:43.140
CHAIR I WILL VOTE TO SEND THIS
00:40:43.207 --> 00:40:44.975
OUT TODAY.
00:40:45.042 --> 00:40:47.678
HOWEVER I RESERVE MY VOTE ON THE
00:40:47.745 --> 00:40:49.947
FLOOR AND BEGAN MIGHT MY PROBLEM
00:40:50.014 --> 00:40:51.916
IS JUST THAT THIS IS SO OPEN
00:40:51.982 --> 00:40:53.083
ENDED AND I'M WORRIED ABOUT
00:40:53.150 --> 00:40:54.718
SOURCES AND METHODS WILL DISCUSS
00:40:54.785 --> 00:40:57.388
IT LATER WELL THANK YOU
00:40:57.454 --> 00:40:57.688
[inaudible]
00:40:57.755 --> 00:41:03.727
PARK I SANTIAGO.
00:41:03.794 --> 00:41:04.995
THANK YOU THAT MEASURE PASSES
00:41:05.062 --> 00:41:06.297
AND THEY COULDN'T CARE THANK YOU
00:41:06.363 --> 00:41:09.066
MEMBERSHIP IN.
00:41:09.133 --> 00:41:10.467
AND PLEASE WORK WITH MISTER
00:41:10.534 --> 00:41:11.936
QUIRK I I WILL IN THE NEXT
00:41:12.002 --> 00:41:13.337
COMMITTEE RAIMES WORK WITH
00:41:13.404 --> 00:41:17.508
MISTER QUIRK.
00:41:17.575 --> 00:41:21.478
SO I SEE FOUR EMPTY CHAIRS SO
00:41:21.545 --> 00:41:23.314
I'M LOOKING.
00:41:23.380 --> 00:41:24.782
FOR MISTER BRADFORD WHO SIGNED
00:41:24.849 --> 00:41:27.985
IN MISTER WILK AND WIENER.
00:41:28.052 --> 00:41:29.453
BRADFORD WELCOME WIENER AND I
00:41:29.520 --> 00:41:32.089
HAVEN'T HAD ANY OTHER SCIENCE SO
00:41:32.156 --> 00:41:33.757
SIGNAL HAVE A VERY SHORT.
00:41:33.824 --> 00:41:50.541
PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MEETING
00:42:35.319 --> 00:42:35.552
[inaudible]
00:42:35.619 --> 00:42:38.689
EXTENSIVE [inaudible]
00:42:38.756 --> 00:42:43.294
YEAH THAT [inaudible]
00:42:43.360 --> 00:42:45.529
TROYER.
00:42:45.596 --> 00:42:48.766
HELLO MISTER BRADFORD YOU MAY.
00:42:48.832 --> 00:42:50.034
TAKE YOUR SEAT WHENEVER YOU'RE
00:42:50.100 --> 00:42:53.537
READY YOU COULD BEGIN.
00:42:53.604 --> 00:42:54.605
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIRMAN AND
00:42:54.672 --> 00:42:56.907
MEMBERS I'M HERE TO PRESENT S.
00:42:56.974 --> 00:42:58.909
B. TWELVE SEVENTY NINE WHICH
00:42:58.976 --> 00:43:00.244
SIMPLY WILL HOLD.
00:43:00.311 --> 00:43:02.813
CLARIFY CALIFORNIA'S COMPLEX
00:43:02.880 --> 00:43:04.114
LAWS AS A RICH AND RESTORE
00:43:04.181 --> 00:43:05.316
GREATER PROPORTIONALITY
00:43:05.382 --> 00:43:05.616
[inaudible]
00:43:05.683 --> 00:43:07.384
AND ARE.
00:43:07.451 --> 00:43:10.020
A JUSTICE SYSTEM.
00:43:10.087 --> 00:43:12.022
WHAT ARE PAST EFFORTS ON THE WAR
00:43:12.089 --> 00:43:13.924
ON DRUGS AND ARE TOUGH?
00:43:13.991 --> 00:43:15.659
ON CRIME MENTALITY FROM LAW
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ENFORCEMENT AND ELECTED
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OFFICIALS ARE NATION AND STATE.
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IS RESPONSIBLE FOR DEVASTATING
00:43:21.699 --> 00:43:22.866
THEN TARGET A TIRE COMMUNITIES
00:43:22.933 --> 00:43:24.935
PART PRIMARILY COMMUNITIES OF
00:43:25.002 --> 00:43:25.869
COLOR.
00:43:25.936 --> 00:43:28.339
AN OVERCROWDED OUR PRISON SYSTEM --
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BEYOND --
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HUMAN.
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COMPREHENSION.
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AND MUCH IS IS BEING CAUSED BY
00:43:33.811 --> 00:43:36.947
ARE VERY COMPLEX AND ARCHAIC
00:43:37.014 --> 00:43:39.616
SENTENCING LAWS --
00:43:39.683 --> 00:43:42.086
WE HAVE SOME OF THE MOST
00:43:42.152 --> 00:43:44.455
CONFUSING SENTENCING LAWS IN THE
00:43:44.521 --> 00:43:46.256
NATION EVEN SO THAT.
00:43:46.323 --> 00:43:48.625
ALL LAWYERS AND JUDGES COSTUMES
00:43:48.692 --> 00:43:51.962
STATE THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.
00:43:52.029 --> 00:43:54.498
THIS BILL WOULD --
00:43:54.565 --> 00:43:56.734
NOT SCRIPT AND I MEAN INCLUDES
00:43:56.800 --> 00:43:57.868
BUT NOT LIMITED TO BASED TERMS
00:43:57.935 --> 00:43:59.803
PRINCIPLE TERM SUBORDINATE TERMS
00:43:59.870 --> 00:44:01.705
AGGREGATED TERMS ALTERNATIVE
00:44:01.772 --> 00:44:03.874
SENTENCING SCHEMES CONCURRENT
00:44:03.941 --> 00:44:04.775
SENTENCING.
00:44:04.842 --> 00:44:06.076
THE TERMINATE AND TURN
00:44:06.143 --> 00:44:07.745
INDETERMINATE SENTENCING AND OF
00:44:07.811 --> 00:44:09.046
COURSE HUNDREDS OF SENTENCE
00:44:09.113 --> 00:44:11.849
ENHANCEMENTS WHICH ADD YEARS TO
00:44:11.915 --> 00:44:14.084
OUR RADIO HARSH AND LONG PRISON
00:44:14.151 --> 00:44:15.052
TERM.
00:44:15.119 --> 00:44:16.186
WALKED AMEND THE GOVERNOR IN OUR
00:44:16.253 --> 00:44:17.988
STATE EFFORTS TO LIMIT THE
00:44:18.055 --> 00:44:19.023
AMOUNT OF CRIMES THAT WE NOW
00:44:19.089 --> 00:44:20.891
ENACT THE INTRICATE WEB OF
00:44:20.958 --> 00:44:21.925
SENTENCING LAWS.
00:44:21.992 --> 00:44:23.761
AS I STATE IT CONFUSES JUDGES
00:44:23.827 --> 00:44:25.829
AND LAWYERS TO ADD TO THE
00:44:25.896 --> 00:44:26.797
PROBLEM OF COMPLEXITY IT'S
00:44:26.864 --> 00:44:28.866
UNCERTAIN IF WHAT THE SENTENCES
00:44:28.932 --> 00:44:31.235
SERVE -- ADS
00:44:31.301 --> 00:44:32.770
ARE INTENDED FUNCTION TO DIG TO
00:44:32.836 --> 00:44:34.772
YOUR CRIME IF YOU WERE TO LOOK
00:44:34.838 --> 00:44:36.740
AT THE STATISTICS WOULD OFF.
00:44:36.807 --> 00:44:38.208
EASILY UP TO SAY THAT THEY DON'T
00:44:38.275 --> 00:44:39.977
ARE CRIME --
00:44:40.044 --> 00:44:42.079
BASED ON SOME FOLKS HAVE
00:44:42.146 --> 00:44:43.380
INCREASED OVER THE NUMBER OF THE
00:44:43.447 --> 00:44:45.149
LAST TWENTY FIVE YEARS SO IT
00:44:45.215 --> 00:44:47.117
CLEARLY APPROVES AT THESE LONG
00:44:47.184 --> 00:44:48.552
SENTENCES --
00:44:48.619 --> 00:44:50.687
SENTENCING AYE TERMS HAVE NOT
00:44:50.754 --> 00:44:52.356
DISSUADE OR DISCOURAGE FOLKS
00:44:52.423 --> 00:44:54.324
FROM ARE COMMITTING CRIME UNTIL
00:44:54.391 --> 00:44:56.593
WE CAN PROVE INCARCERATION WORKS
00:44:56.660 --> 00:44:57.995
THERE'S NO REASON WHY WE SHOULD
00:44:58.062 --> 00:44:59.997
DOLE OUT EXTREME SENTENCES FOR
00:45:00.064 --> 00:45:01.532
ALL CASES IN WHICH SENTENCE
00:45:01.598 --> 00:45:03.033
ENHANCES MAYBE LONGER.
00:45:03.100 --> 00:45:04.835
THAN THE UNDERLYING FELONY
00:45:04.902 --> 00:45:07.337
SENTENCE THE STOP A POLICIES DO
00:45:07.404 --> 00:45:08.705
NOT IMPROVE PUBLIC SAFETY
00:45:08.772 --> 00:45:10.707
INSTEAD CONTRIBUTOR GENERATIONAL
00:45:10.774 --> 00:45:12.276
SICK CYCLE OF CRIMES AND
00:45:12.342 --> 00:45:14.278
VIOLENCE AMONGST FAMILIES ENTIRE
00:45:14.344 --> 00:45:15.379
COMMUNITIES.
00:45:15.446 --> 00:45:16.780
S. B. TWELVE SEVENTY NINE WILL
00:45:16.847 --> 00:45:19.683
HELP SAVE ONE IS CONVOLUTED
00:45:19.750 --> 00:45:22.419
SENTENCE LAWS IMPROVE IMPROVE.
00:45:22.486 --> 00:45:23.987
THE BALANCE BETWEEN ENHANCEMENTS
00:45:24.054 --> 00:45:25.189
AND UNDERLYING FELONIES BY
00:45:25.255 --> 00:45:27.591
SIMPLY ENSURING THAT A FULL TERM
00:45:27.658 --> 00:45:29.259
OF IMPRISONED DOES NOT EXCEED
00:45:29.326 --> 00:45:31.195
TWICE THE NUMBER OF YEARS OF
00:45:31.261 --> 00:45:32.496
THAT BASE TERM.
00:45:32.563 --> 00:45:33.664
WITH ME TODAY IS EXPERT STEVE
00:45:33.730 --> 00:45:35.566
RIES.
00:45:35.632 --> 00:45:36.400
PRESIDENT OF THE CALIFORNIA
00:45:36.467 --> 00:45:38.001
ATTORNEYS FOR CRIMINAL JUSTICE
00:45:38.068 --> 00:45:39.636
PROFESSOR OF EVIDENCE AT
00:45:39.703 --> 00:45:41.405
MODERATE COLLEGE WHO LAW
00:45:41.472 --> 00:45:42.806
INFORMER ATTORNEY OF MONTEREY
00:45:42.873 --> 00:45:44.675
COUNTY PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE
00:45:44.741 --> 00:45:46.376
AND ALSO CHUCK DENTON ARE A
00:45:46.443 --> 00:45:47.978
LECTURE AT UC BERKELEY AN
00:45:48.045 --> 00:45:49.179
ATTORNEY WITH ALAMEDA COUNTY.
00:45:49.246 --> 00:45:51.215
PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE AND
00:45:51.281 --> 00:45:52.516
WITH THAT --
00:45:52.583 --> 00:45:54.151
HOMES CHAIR MEMBERS I
00:45:54.218 --> 00:45:54.751
RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR AYE VOTE
00:45:54.818 --> 00:45:55.052
[inaudible]
00:45:55.119 --> 00:45:57.454
THANK YOU. FIVE MINUTES TOTAL
00:45:57.521 --> 00:45:59.089
THANK YOU.
00:45:59.156 --> 00:46:00.624
GOOD MORNING MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS
00:46:00.691 --> 00:46:01.558
OF THE COMMITTEE.
00:46:01.625 --> 00:46:03.660
I AM STEVEN RACE I'M ATTORNEY IN
00:46:03.727 --> 00:46:05.529
PRIVATE PRACTICE NOW I'VE BEEN
00:46:05.596 --> 00:46:06.096
PRACTICING COULD THE DEFENSE
00:46:06.163 --> 00:46:08.866
BOSSES.
00:46:08.932 --> 00:46:10.167
NINETEEN SEVENTY NINE AND I'M
00:46:10.234 --> 00:46:11.502
ALSO WAS PARENTS ABOUT A CENTER
00:46:11.568 --> 00:46:12.469
BRADFORD SAID CURRENTLY
00:46:12.536 --> 00:46:13.637
PRESIDENT OF CALIFORNIA
00:46:13.704 --> 00:46:15.739
ATTORNEYS FOR CRIMINAL JUSTICE --
00:46:15.806 --> 00:46:18.308
AT THIS BILL.
00:46:18.375 --> 00:46:19.109
TWELVE SEVENTY NINE REALLY SEEKS
00:46:19.176 --> 00:46:20.644
TO BRING SOME COMMON SENSE AND A
00:46:20.711 --> 00:46:21.545
CERTAIN.
00:46:21.612 --> 00:46:23.947
SIMPLICITY TO SENTENCING LAW IN
00:46:24.014 --> 00:46:25.015
CALIFORNIA.
00:46:25.082 --> 00:46:26.316
AS IT CURRENTLY EXISTS THE
00:46:26.383 --> 00:46:27.684
CALIFORNIA SENTENCING LAW IS A
00:46:27.751 --> 00:46:29.019
MAZE OF CODE.
00:46:29.086 --> 00:46:31.255
SECTIONS WITH WIDE RANGING BASED
00:46:31.321 --> 00:46:33.790
TERMS PRINCIPLE TERM SUBORDINATE
00:46:33.857 --> 00:46:36.260
TERMS AND MULTIPLE ENHANCEMENTS.
00:46:36.326 --> 00:46:38.162
SOME OF WHICH CAN BE IMPOSED IN
00:46:38.228 --> 00:46:39.696
SOME SITUATIONS BUT NOT IN OTHER
00:46:39.763 --> 00:46:41.398
SITUATIONS --
00:46:41.465 --> 00:46:43.167
THERE ARE.
00:46:43.233 --> 00:46:45.769
NUMEROUS BOOKS WRITTEN ON
00:46:45.836 --> 00:46:47.771
SENTENCING LAW IN CALIFORNIA.
00:46:47.838 --> 00:46:49.673
THAT RUN HUNDREDS OF PAGES THERE
00:46:49.740 --> 00:46:51.608
ARE ALL DAY SEMINARS SOMETIMES
00:46:51.675 --> 00:46:53.343
MORE THAN ONE DAY SEMINARS THAT
00:46:53.410 --> 00:46:55.812
ARE PROVIDED TO JUDGES LAWYERS
00:46:55.879 --> 00:46:58.715
PROBATION OFFICERS --
00:46:58.782 --> 00:47:00.851
ABOUT HOW DO SENTENCING
00:47:00.918 --> 00:47:01.952
CORRECTLY IN THE IN THE STATE OF
00:47:02.019 --> 00:47:03.353
CALIFORNIA.
00:47:03.420 --> 00:47:05.923
AND FOR THOSE OF US WHO --
00:47:05.989 --> 00:47:07.257
AS SPEND SOME OF OUR TIME
00:47:07.324 --> 00:47:09.026
READING APPELLATE DECISIONS --
00:47:09.092 --> 00:47:11.094
WE SEE FREQUENTLY CASES BEING
00:47:11.161 --> 00:47:13.530
SENT BACK TO THE TRIAL COURT TO
00:47:13.597 --> 00:47:16.200
RE SENTENCE ARE DEFENDANTS ARE
00:47:16.266 --> 00:47:19.002
BECAUSE THERE WAS AN ERROR POT.
00:47:19.069 --> 00:47:20.837
NO INTENT NO BAD FAITH JUST AN
00:47:20.904 --> 00:47:22.172
ERROR IN CALCULATING THE
00:47:22.239 --> 00:47:23.941
DEFENDANT'S SONS.
00:47:24.007 --> 00:47:25.676
THOSE RETURNS BECAUSE OF
00:47:25.742 --> 00:47:27.110
SENTENCING COMPLICATIONS AND
00:47:27.177 --> 00:47:30.347
ERRORS COST THE STATE UP.
00:47:30.414 --> 00:47:32.416
I'M CREDIBLE AMOUNT OF MONEY
00:47:32.482 --> 00:47:33.450
HAVE THOSE CASES SET BACK AND RE
00:47:33.517 --> 00:47:35.953
DONE -- I
00:47:36.019 --> 00:47:37.287
THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE
00:47:37.354 --> 00:47:39.223
THAT THIS BILL HAS --
00:47:39.289 --> 00:47:41.258
SIGNIFICANT EXCEPTIONS TO THE
00:47:41.325 --> 00:47:42.426
DOUBLE BASS TERM LIMIT.
00:47:42.492 --> 00:47:44.394
THEIR SPELLED OUT.
00:47:44.461 --> 00:47:45.596
IN THE STATUTE.
00:47:45.662 --> 00:47:48.098
AND WHAT IS NOT COVERED UNDER
00:47:48.165 --> 00:47:49.099
THIS LIMITATION ON DOUBLE BASS
00:47:49.166 --> 00:47:50.534
TERM.
00:47:50.601 --> 00:47:52.569
ARE SOME OF THE MORE --
00:47:52.636 --> 00:47:55.973
SIGNIFICANT OR SERIOUS CRIMES
00:47:56.039 --> 00:47:56.907
GANG CRIMES HUMAN SEX
00:47:56.974 --> 00:47:58.508
TRAFFICKING.
00:47:58.575 --> 00:48:01.511
AGGRAVATED SEXUAL ASSAULT UPON --
00:48:01.578 --> 00:48:03.780
A CHILD HA HABITUAL CRIMINAL --
00:48:03.847 --> 00:48:06.016
ENHANCEMENTS FELONY STRIKE
00:48:06.083 --> 00:48:08.485
ENHANCEMENTS SEX CRIMES WITH A
00:48:08.552 --> 00:48:10.254
CHILD WITH HIS A PRIOR
00:48:10.320 --> 00:48:12.889
CONVICTION FOR SEX CRIME --
00:48:12.956 --> 00:48:14.157
RAPE --
00:48:14.224 --> 00:48:17.027
CASES WHERE THERE IS EITHER A
00:48:17.094 --> 00:48:20.530
SINGLE VICTIM WITH COST%
00:48:20.597 --> 00:48:20.831
[inaudible]
00:48:20.897 --> 00:48:22.966
MULTIPLE --
00:48:23.033 --> 00:48:26.136
I TAX OR MULTIPLE VICTIMS --
00:48:26.203 --> 00:48:28.005
WITH MULTIPLE ATTACKS IN THE
00:48:28.071 --> 00:48:31.708
FIRST SCENARIO THE COURT --
00:48:31.775 --> 00:48:33.310
MAY IMPOSE WHAT.
00:48:33.377 --> 00:48:35.779
LAWYERS CALL A FULL BOAT CONSENT.
00:48:35.846 --> 00:48:37.848
MEANING THE THE SECOND OFFENSE
00:48:37.914 --> 00:48:40.083
IS SATIN'S --
00:48:40.150 --> 00:48:42.519
EXACTLY AS THE FIRST OFFENSE AS
00:48:42.586 --> 00:48:43.687
OPPOSED TO WHAT.
00:48:43.754 --> 00:48:44.755
WE CALL ONE THIRD THE MIDDLE
00:48:44.821 --> 00:48:46.189
TERM.
00:48:46.256 --> 00:48:48.959
WHEN THE SITUATION APPLIES WHERE
00:48:49.026 --> 00:48:50.894
THERE'S MULTIPLE VICTIMS OR A
00:48:50.961 --> 00:48:51.928
SINGLE VICTIM IN MULTIPLE
00:48:51.995 --> 00:48:53.530
ATTACKS?
00:48:53.597 --> 00:48:57.000
THE COURT MUST IMPOSE THE FULL
00:48:57.067 --> 00:48:59.970
CONSECUTIVE TERM SO.
00:49:00.037 --> 00:49:02.005
A SIX YEAR RAPE CASE SECURE
00:49:02.072 --> 00:49:03.707
CONVICTION WITH A SECOND SIX
00:49:03.774 --> 00:49:05.676
YEAR CONVICTION BECOMES A TWELVE
00:49:05.742 --> 00:49:05.876
YEAR.
00:49:05.942 --> 00:49:08.912
CONVICTION --
00:49:08.979 --> 00:49:10.547
THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS FOR THE
00:49:10.614 --> 00:49:12.082
THREE STRIKES LAW TOWN SENDS
00:49:12.149 --> 00:49:13.317
INVOLVING A THREE STRIKES
00:49:13.383 --> 00:49:15.485
CONVICTION WOULD NOT BE COVERED.
00:49:15.552 --> 00:49:17.921
UNDER --
00:49:17.988 --> 00:49:18.622
TWELVE SEVENTY NINE AND
00:49:18.689 --> 00:49:20.724
KIDNAPPING OF A CHILD WITH
00:49:20.791 --> 00:49:22.292
INTENT TO PROBABLY DEPRIVE.
00:49:22.359 --> 00:49:23.694
WOULD NOT BE COVERED UNDER THIS
00:49:23.760 --> 00:49:25.495
SO THAT THE AUTHOR HAS MADE SOME
00:49:25.562 --> 00:49:27.931
VERY.
00:49:27.998 --> 00:49:29.433
SERIOUS AND NUANCED.
00:49:29.499 --> 00:49:31.835
EFFORTS.
00:49:31.902 --> 00:49:33.804
TO HOW THE STATUTE APPLIED TO
00:49:33.870 --> 00:49:36.440
THE MORE BASIC FELONY OFFENSES
00:49:36.506 --> 00:49:37.107
THAT OCCUR.
00:49:37.174 --> 00:49:40.077
IN THE STATE AND STILL WE LIVE
00:49:40.143 --> 00:49:42.379
THE THE JUDGES WITH THE
00:49:42.446 --> 00:49:45.549
DISCRETION TO IMPOSE MORE.
00:49:45.615 --> 00:49:47.017
IN CLOSING I WOULD TAKE YOU BACK
00:49:47.084 --> 00:49:48.618
TO THE CASE THAT OVER.
00:49:48.685 --> 00:49:50.721
THAT SET THIS IN MOTION PEOPLE
00:49:50.787 --> 00:49:54.524
VERSUS MCGILL BACK IN.
00:49:54.591 --> 00:49:55.158
NINETEEN EIGHTY SIX ON THE PART
00:49:55.225 --> 00:49:56.293
OF MCGILL I ASK YOU TO PAY
00:49:56.360 --> 00:49:57.994
ATTENTION.
00:49:58.061 --> 00:50:00.063
TO IS FOOTNOTE.
00:50:00.130 --> 00:50:01.098
FOR WHEN THE COURT RICH RENDERED
00:50:01.164 --> 00:50:03.100
ITS DECISION THAT THE DOUBLE
00:50:03.166 --> 00:50:06.269
BASS TERM LAW WAS --
00:50:06.336 --> 00:50:08.472
NOT AT YOUR FOUR MINUTES.
00:50:08.538 --> 00:50:10.674
NOT LEAVE THEM MUCH TIME OUTSIDE
00:50:10.741 --> 00:50:11.942
ALL I ASK YOU DO ON IS TO FOLLOW
00:50:12.008 --> 00:50:13.276
THE OLD QUOTE FROM JUSTICE
00:50:13.343 --> 00:50:14.578
FRANKFURTER THAT WISDOM TOO
00:50:14.644 --> 00:50:18.014
pTO REJECTED BECAUSE IT COMES
00:50:18.081 --> 00:50:19.416
LATE THANK YOU.
00:50:19.483 --> 00:50:20.884
THANK YOU MAY BEGIN SIR --
00:50:20.951 --> 00:50:22.886
YES SENATOR BRADFORD DESCRIBE
00:50:22.953 --> 00:50:24.721
CALIFORNIA SENTENCING AS ONE OF
00:50:24.788 --> 00:50:26.323
THE MOST COMPLEX IN THE NATION I
00:50:26.390 --> 00:50:27.624
THINK THAT KIND OF UNDER CELLS A
00:50:27.691 --> 00:50:29.059
LITTLE BIT --
00:50:29.126 --> 00:50:30.727
I TOOK AN INFORMAL POLL OF MY
00:50:30.794 --> 00:50:32.396
COLLEAGUES AT THE UC BERKELEY
00:50:32.462 --> 00:50:33.730
SCHOOL OF LAW.
00:50:33.797 --> 00:50:35.699
AND THE CONSENSUS IS THAT
00:50:35.766 --> 00:50:37.501
CALIFORNIA'S SENTENCING SCHEME
00:50:37.567 --> 00:50:40.437
IS BY A GOOD MEASURE THE MOST
00:50:40.504 --> 00:50:41.405
COMPLEX IN THE NATION.
00:50:41.471 --> 00:50:43.373
AND THAT'S BECAUSE AMONG OTHER
00:50:43.440 --> 00:50:45.008
THINGS IT'S GOT ABOUT FIVE
00:50:45.075 --> 00:50:46.710
DIFFERENT LAYERS WHO COMPLEXITY.
00:50:46.777 --> 00:50:49.379
MOST OTHER STATES HAVE ONE OR
00:50:49.446 --> 00:50:52.215
TWO PLAYERS WE HAVE --
00:50:52.282 --> 00:50:53.550
FIVE AND I'M IN THE LIMITED TIME
00:50:53.617 --> 00:50:54.885
HAVE I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU ONE
00:50:54.951 --> 00:50:56.353
EXAMPLE OF THE PRACTICAL EFFECT
00:50:56.420 --> 00:50:59.322
OF THIS --
00:50:59.389 --> 00:51:00.991
ABOUT A MONTH AGO I GOT A LETTER.
00:51:01.057 --> 00:51:03.693
FROM THE CDC ADDRESS TO THE MOST
00:51:03.760 --> 00:51:05.462
SENIOR AND PROBABLY THE MOST
00:51:05.529 --> 00:51:07.264
SCHOLARLY JUDGE IN OUR COUNTY.
00:51:07.330 --> 00:51:08.498
ASKING HIM TO CORRECT THE LEGAL
00:51:08.565 --> 00:51:11.034
HEIR THAT HE MADE IN THE SENSE.
00:51:11.101 --> 00:51:11.701
AND I WENT OVER TO THE
00:51:11.768 --> 00:51:13.236
COURTHOUSE TO LOOK ATTHE COURT
00:51:13.303 --> 00:51:15.238
FILE AND I WHEN I DID I REALIZE
00:51:15.305 --> 00:51:16.773
THAT THIS LETTER WAS JUST.
00:51:16.840 --> 00:51:18.775
THE LAST IN A SERIES OF LETTERS
00:51:18.842 --> 00:51:20.143
FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF
00:51:20.210 --> 00:51:20.977
CORRECTIONS ASKING TO CORRECT
00:51:21.044 --> 00:51:22.078
THIS ERROR.
00:51:22.145 --> 00:51:23.814
WHICH HE REFUSED TO TAKE ANY
00:51:23.880 --> 00:51:25.649
ACTION ON IT INSISTING THAT HE
00:51:25.715 --> 00:51:26.883
WAS RIGHT AND THAT THE
00:51:26.950 --> 00:51:28.418
DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS WHICH
00:51:28.485 --> 00:51:29.886
ACTUALLY WAS RIGHT IN THIS CASE
00:51:29.953 --> 00:51:30.921
WAS WRONG.
00:51:30.987 --> 00:51:32.155
SO I WAS CURIOUS I ASKED THE
00:51:32.222 --> 00:51:34.558
CLERK TO GET A LOT OF THESE
00:51:34.624 --> 00:51:35.091
LETTERS.
00:51:35.158 --> 00:51:36.059
AND SHE SAID WELL I DON'T KNOW
00:51:36.126 --> 00:51:38.795
WHAT YOU MEAN BY A LOT.
00:51:38.862 --> 00:51:40.030
SO THAT KIND OF PIQUED MY
00:51:40.096 --> 00:51:42.132
CURIOSITY SO I I EMAILED THE
00:51:42.199 --> 00:51:44.134
PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER AT
00:51:44.201 --> 00:51:45.836
THE DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS.
00:51:45.902 --> 00:51:47.003
AND I ASKED HIM HOW MANY OF
00:51:47.070 --> 00:51:49.105
THESE LETTERS DO YOU SEND OUT.
00:51:49.172 --> 00:51:50.173
SO EMAIL ME BACK HE SAYS IS
00:51:50.240 --> 00:51:51.074
INTERESTING YOU ASK THAT
00:51:51.141 --> 00:51:52.776
QUESTION BECAUSE THE GOVERNOR'S
00:51:52.843 --> 00:51:54.845
BEEN ASKING THE SAME QUESTION.
00:51:54.911 --> 00:51:57.013
ANY SAID WE WE SENT OUT A COUPLE
00:51:57.080 --> 00:51:58.181
HUNDRED OF THESE IN THE LAST FEW
00:51:58.248 --> 00:51:59.916
MONTHS.
00:51:59.983 --> 00:52:01.384
AND APPARENTLY IN THE REVISED
00:52:01.451 --> 00:52:02.886
BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR THERE'S TWO
00:52:02.953 --> 00:52:05.522
MILLION DOLLARS TO BOLSTER THE
00:52:05.589 --> 00:52:06.990
FOR THIS UNIT --
00:52:07.057 --> 00:52:07.724
THAT EXPLORE SENTENCE
00:52:07.791 --> 00:52:09.926
DISCREPANCIES.
00:52:09.993 --> 00:52:11.928
SO THAT'S THAT'S GOOD THE JUDGES
00:52:11.995 --> 00:52:14.297
THE LAWYERS I LOOKED AT SOME OF
00:52:14.364 --> 00:52:16.633
THE OPPOSITION AND I TRIED TO DO
00:52:16.700 --> 00:52:18.068
THE NUMBERS AND I DON'T GET
00:52:18.134 --> 00:52:18.668
ANYWHERE NEAR THE NUMBERS THAT
00:52:18.735 --> 00:52:20.871
THEY GET.
00:52:20.937 --> 00:52:22.305
AND I THAT'S I MEAN I'M RIGHT NO
00:52:22.372 --> 00:52:23.740
WRONG I DON'T KNOW THAT IT DOES
00:52:23.807 --> 00:52:25.242
AFTER THIRTY FIVE YEARS OF DOING
00:52:25.308 --> 00:52:26.610
THIS THE ONE THING I KNOW. FOR
00:52:26.676 --> 00:52:27.944
SURE ABOUT SENTENCING IS THAT
00:52:28.011 --> 00:52:29.379
NOTHING CERTAIN.
00:52:29.446 --> 00:52:30.614
AND I MAYBE WRONG THERE MAY BE
00:52:30.680 --> 00:52:33.250
SOME OBSCURE SENTENCING RULER
00:52:33.316 --> 00:52:34.451
ENHANCEMENT BURIED DEEP IN THE
00:52:34.518 --> 00:52:35.752
PENAL CODE.
00:52:35.819 --> 00:52:37.521
BUT I THINK THAT'S THE POINT
00:52:37.587 --> 00:52:39.289
THAT WHEN YOU WRITE THESE LAWS
00:52:39.356 --> 00:52:41.124
YOU EXPECT THEM TO BE.
00:52:41.191 --> 00:52:42.459
EXECUTED IN UNIFORM A
00:52:42.526 --> 00:52:43.827
PROPORTIONAL MANNER AND YOU
00:52:43.894 --> 00:52:44.961
EXPECT THEM TO HAVE SOME
00:52:45.028 --> 00:52:46.963
DETERRENT EFFECT.
00:52:47.030 --> 00:52:48.965
BUT IF THE SENIOR AND SCHOLARLY
00:52:49.032 --> 00:52:50.667
JUDGE CAN'T GET IT RIGHT IF
00:52:50.734 --> 00:52:52.636
LAWYERS ON BOTH SIDES CAME TO
00:52:52.702 --> 00:52:54.938
GET THE ARITHMETIC RIGHT.
00:52:55.005 --> 00:52:56.206
THEN HOW CAN YOU EXPECT THE LAWS
00:52:56.273 --> 00:52:57.941
YOU ENACT.
00:52:58.008 --> 00:53:00.277
WILL BE IMPLEMENTED IN A UNIFORM
00:53:00.343 --> 00:53:01.945
A PROPORTIONAL MANNER.
00:53:02.012 --> 00:53:03.480
AND OF WE DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW
00:53:03.547 --> 00:53:04.814
CAN YOU EXPECT.
00:53:04.881 --> 00:53:06.650
THE AVERAGE CITIZEN.
00:53:06.716 --> 00:53:07.551
THE HAVE ANY DETERRENT EFFECT ON
00:53:07.617 --> 00:53:09.619
THIS.
00:53:09.686 --> 00:53:10.854
THIS BILL IS NOT GONNA SWING
00:53:10.921 --> 00:53:12.489
OPEN THE PRISON GATES.
00:53:12.556 --> 00:53:13.990
IT'S NOT GONNA SAN RECIDIVISM
00:53:14.057 --> 00:53:15.592
RATES SOARING AND IT'S NOT GONNA
00:53:15.659 --> 00:53:17.093
PREVENT JUDGES FROM STRICTLY
00:53:17.160 --> 00:53:18.428
PUNISHING.
00:53:18.495 --> 00:53:21.231
SERIOUS VIOLENT AND SEX OFFENSES
00:53:21.298 --> 00:53:23.233
BUT IT IS THE FIRST STEP.
00:53:23.300 --> 00:53:25.702
IN UNTANGLING IN SIMPLIFYING.
00:53:25.769 --> 00:53:27.404
WHAT IS THE MOST COMPLEX AND
00:53:27.470 --> 00:53:29.739
FRUSTRATING SENTENCING LAWS IN
00:53:29.806 --> 00:53:30.840
THE NATION AND THAT'S WHAT HAS
00:53:30.907 --> 00:53:33.143
MY SUPPORT [inaudible]
00:53:33.209 --> 00:53:35.245
THANK YOU.
00:53:35.312 --> 00:53:35.879
ARE THERE ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
00:53:35.946 --> 00:53:38.949
SUPPORT.
00:53:39.015 --> 00:53:39.983
MORNING MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS
00:53:40.050 --> 00:53:41.718
MIKE A DOCTOR OFF ON BEHALF OF
00:53:41.785 --> 00:53:43.753
THE ACLU OF CALIFORNIA WE ARE
00:53:43.820 --> 00:53:45.255
PROUD CO SPONSOR OF THIS
00:53:45.322 --> 00:53:46.756
LEGISLATION AND URGE YOUR
00:53:46.823 --> 00:53:47.424
SUPPORT THANK YOU.
00:53:47.490 --> 00:53:50.093
THANK YOU.
00:53:50.160 --> 00:53:51.428
ANGELIQUE YORK WITH NATIONAL
00:53:51.494 --> 00:53:52.362
ASSOCIATION OF SOCIAL WORKERS
00:53:52.429 --> 00:53:54.264
AND SUPPORT.
00:53:54.331 --> 00:53:54.831
THANK YOU.
00:53:54.898 --> 00:53:56.600
OTHER ANY OTHER [inaudible]
00:53:56.666 --> 00:53:58.501
ARE.
00:53:58.568 --> 00:54:02.973
IS THERE AND THE THERE FLOOR ARE
00:54:03.039 --> 00:54:03.640
NOT OF CALIFORNIA PUBLIC
00:54:03.707 --> 00:54:05.475
DEFENDER ASSOCIATION WE SUPPORT
00:54:05.542 --> 00:54:07.544
THANK YOU.
00:54:07.611 --> 00:54:08.111
ARE THERE ANY WITNESSES IN
00:54:08.178 --> 00:54:24.394
OPPOSITION
00:54:26.129 --> 00:54:26.196
.
00:54:26.196 --> 00:54:28.264
GOOD MORNING.
00:54:28.331 --> 00:54:29.265
TO MATTHEWS ON BEHALF THE
00:54:29.332 --> 00:54:30.533
CALIFORNIA DISTRICT ATTORNEYS
00:54:30.600 --> 00:54:32.535
ASSOCIATION AND WE ARE IN
00:54:32.602 --> 00:54:34.237
RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION.
00:54:34.304 --> 00:54:37.240
THE PRACTICAL EFFECT OF SP
00:54:37.307 --> 00:54:37.874
TWELVE SEVENTY NINE IS TO GIVE A
00:54:37.941 --> 00:54:39.409
VOLUME DISCOUNT TO CRIMINALS WHO
00:54:39.476 --> 00:54:41.845
VICTIMIZE FOR A MORE INDIVIDUALS.
00:54:41.911 --> 00:54:43.079
OR THOSE WHO WOULD OTHERWISE BE
00:54:43.146 --> 00:54:44.814
SUBJECT TO A SIGNIFICANT HANSON
00:54:44.881 --> 00:54:46.650
[inaudible] FOR EXAMPLE
00:54:46.716 --> 00:54:48.284
CONSIDER SOMEONE CONVICTED OF
00:54:48.351 --> 00:54:49.019
HUMAN TRAFFICKING WITH SIX
00:54:49.085 --> 00:54:50.553
VICTIMS.
00:54:50.620 --> 00:54:51.688
LET'S ASSUME THAT THE JUDGE
00:54:51.755 --> 00:54:53.356
IMPOSED THE LOWER TERM OF FIVE
00:54:53.423 --> 00:54:55.191
YEARS FOR THE PRINCIPLE TERM.
00:54:55.258 --> 00:54:56.559
AND SENTENCED THE DEFENDANT
00:54:56.626 --> 00:54:58.628
CONSECUTIVELY FOR THE OTHER FIVE
00:54:58.695 --> 00:55:00.397
VICTIMS FOR TOTAL SENTENCE OF
00:55:00.463 --> 00:55:02.766
EIGHTEEN YEARS FOUR MONTHS.
00:55:02.832 --> 00:55:04.601
UNDER S. B. TWELVE SEVENTY NINE
00:55:04.668 --> 00:55:05.669
THE MAXIMUM SENTENCE FOR THIS
00:55:05.735 --> 00:55:07.404
DEFENDANT WOULD BE CAPPED AT
00:55:07.470 --> 00:55:08.938
DOUBLE THE BASE TERM OR TEN
00:55:09.005 --> 00:55:09.773
YEARS.
00:55:09.839 --> 00:55:11.708
THAT'S ALMOST A 50% SENTENCE
00:55:11.775 --> 00:55:13.610
REDUCTION AND EFFECTIVELY GIVE
00:55:13.677 --> 00:55:16.379
THE DEFENDANT THREE FREE VICTIMS.
00:55:16.446 --> 00:55:17.881
VIOLENT OFFENDERS ARE THE MOST
00:55:17.947 --> 00:55:19.683
LIKELY TO BENEFIT FROM THIS.
00:55:19.749 --> 00:55:21.284
AS NON VIOLENT OFFENDERS ARE
00:55:21.351 --> 00:55:22.852
ALREADY ELIGIBLE FOR PAROLE
00:55:22.919 --> 00:55:24.854
UNDER PROPOSITION FIFTY SEVEN
00:55:24.921 --> 00:55:25.522
AFTER SERVING JUST THE PRINCIPAL
00:55:25.588 --> 00:55:27.557
TAM.
00:55:27.624 --> 00:55:28.992
S. B. TWELVE SEVENTY NINE
00:55:29.059 --> 00:55:30.427
COMPROMISES THE RIGHTS OF CRIME
00:55:30.493 --> 00:55:32.362
VICTIMS TO RECEIVE JUSTICE AND
00:55:32.429 --> 00:55:33.797
JEOPARDIZES THE SAFETY OF OUR
00:55:33.863 --> 00:55:35.365
COMMUNITIES FOR THESE REASONS
00:55:35.432 --> 00:55:37.934
RESPECTFULLY OPPOSE.
00:55:38.001 --> 00:55:39.569
YES THANK YOU A GOOD MORNING
00:55:39.636 --> 00:55:41.404
MISTER CHAIR AND MEMBERS BUT I'M
00:55:41.471 --> 00:55:42.505
DEPUTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY TOMAR
00:55:42.572 --> 00:55:43.807
TOKAT ON BEHALF OF THE LOS
00:55:43.873 --> 00:55:44.574
ANGELES COUNTY DISTRICT
00:55:44.641 --> 00:55:46.943
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND WE
00:55:47.010 --> 00:55:48.812
RESPECTFULLY OPPOSE THIS BILL.
00:55:48.878 --> 00:55:49.846
SENTENCING STATUTES IN
00:55:49.913 --> 00:55:52.382
CALIFORNIA ARE ARE EXTENSIVE BUT
00:55:52.449 --> 00:55:53.316
THEY ARE NOT INDECIPHERABLE TO
00:55:53.383 --> 00:55:54.984
THE PROSECUTORS THE DEFENSE
00:55:55.051 --> 00:55:56.319
ATTORNEYS AND THE JUDGES WHO
00:55:56.386 --> 00:55:58.988
WORK WITH THEM EVERY SINGLE DAY.
00:55:59.055 --> 00:56:00.523
IN FACT THE MAXIMUM THAT A
00:56:00.590 --> 00:56:02.625
DEFENDANT FACES ON EVERY CASE IS
00:56:02.692 --> 00:56:04.494
DETERMINED.
00:56:04.561 --> 00:56:06.529
IN EACH CASE BY THE PROSECUTORS
00:56:06.596 --> 00:56:07.931
DEFENSE ATTORNEYS AND THE JUDGES
00:56:07.997 --> 00:56:09.566
WHO HANDLE THESE CASES THIS IS
00:56:09.632 --> 00:56:10.767
NOT ROCKET SCIENCE THIS IS
00:56:10.834 --> 00:56:12.635
SOMETHING THAT WHEN YOU DO IT
00:56:12.702 --> 00:56:13.336
FOR A LIVING.
00:56:13.403 --> 00:56:15.138
YOU LEARN IT AND YOU DO IT
00:56:15.205 --> 00:56:16.539
CORRECTLY OF COURSE THERE'S
00:56:16.606 --> 00:56:18.274
ALWAYS GOING TO BE HUMAN ERROR.
00:56:18.341 --> 00:56:19.743
HUMAN ERROR HAPPENS IN EVERY
00:56:19.809 --> 00:56:21.144
SCENARIO IN LIFE BUT JUST
00:56:21.211 --> 00:56:22.112
BECAUSE THERE COULD BE HUMAN
00:56:22.178 --> 00:56:24.180
ERROR DOES NOT MEAN THAT WE GET
00:56:24.247 --> 00:56:26.082
RID OF A BOTH A PROCESS THAT
00:56:26.149 --> 00:56:27.851
WORKS.
00:56:27.917 --> 00:56:29.319
IN FACT THE CURRENT SENTENCING
00:56:29.385 --> 00:56:30.520
LAWS SERVED A VERY IMPORTANT
00:56:30.587 --> 00:56:33.289
PURPOSE THEY DIFFERENTIATE THE
00:56:33.356 --> 00:56:35.091
PERSON WHO USES A GUN FROM THE
00:56:35.158 --> 00:56:36.526
PERSON WHO DOES NOT USE A GUN
00:56:36.593 --> 00:56:37.093
DURING THE COMMISSION OF AN
00:56:37.160 --> 00:56:38.194
OFFENSE.
00:56:38.261 --> 00:56:39.462
THE CURRENT LAWS DIFFERENTIATE
00:56:39.529 --> 00:56:41.831
THE PERSON WHO SERIOUSLY INJURES
00:56:41.898 --> 00:56:42.799
A HUMAN BEING DURING THE
00:56:42.866 --> 00:56:44.334
COMMISSION OF OF AN OFFENSE FROM
00:56:44.400 --> 00:56:45.602
THE PERSON WHO DOES NOT CAUSE
00:56:45.668 --> 00:56:47.237
GREAT BODILY INJURY.
00:56:47.303 --> 00:56:48.972
THE CURRENT LAW DIFFERENTIATES
00:56:49.038 --> 00:56:50.707
THE PERSON WHO COMMITS ONE CRIME
00:56:50.774 --> 00:56:52.208
AGAINST ONE VICTIM FROM THE
00:56:52.275 --> 00:56:53.543
PERSON THAT COMMITS MULTIPLE
00:56:53.610 --> 00:56:56.446
CRIMES AGAINST MULTIPLE VICTIMS.
00:56:56.513 --> 00:56:58.448
THAT'S WHAT THE CURRENT LAWS ARE
00:56:58.515 --> 00:57:00.350
THEREFORE TO TAKE INTO
00:57:00.416 --> 00:57:01.951
CONSIDERATION ALL OF THE
00:57:02.018 --> 00:57:03.286
DIFFERENT THINGS THAT HAPPEN
00:57:03.353 --> 00:57:04.988
WITHIN A CRIME AND NOT TO TREAT
00:57:05.054 --> 00:57:07.423
EVERYBODY EXACTLY THE SAME WAY.
00:57:07.490 --> 00:57:09.759
THIS BILL HAS NO EXCEPTIONS FOR
00:57:09.826 --> 00:57:12.729
GUN USE WHICH IS A SIGNIFICANT
00:57:12.796 --> 00:57:14.130
PROBLEM IN CALIFORNIA AND
00:57:14.197 --> 00:57:16.199
SPEAKING FOR LOS ANGELES WE HAVE
00:57:16.266 --> 00:57:17.734
A HUGE PROBLEM WITH GUN VIOLENCE
00:57:17.801 --> 00:57:19.369
IN LOS ANGELES COUNTY.
00:57:19.435 --> 00:57:21.070
THIS BILL ALSO DOES NOT MAKE AN
00:57:21.137 --> 00:57:22.705
EXCEPTION FOR A CAUSING GREAT
00:57:22.772 --> 00:57:24.641
BODILY INJURY OR FOR HAVING
00:57:24.707 --> 00:57:27.310
MULTIPLE VICTIMS ROUTINELY IN
00:57:27.377 --> 00:57:28.912
LOS ANGELES WE SEE.
00:57:28.978 --> 00:57:30.747
OF INDIVIDUALS WHO COMMIT ARMED
00:57:30.814 --> 00:57:32.715
ROBBERIES AGAINST MULTIPLE
00:57:32.782 --> 00:57:33.850
INDIVIDUAL SOMETIMES IN ONE
00:57:33.917 --> 00:57:36.920
NIGHT BY WAY OF EXAMPLE WE ONCE
00:57:36.986 --> 00:57:39.255
PROSECUTED ARE FOR A DEFENDANT
00:57:39.322 --> 00:57:40.423
WHO COMMITTED FIVE SEPARATE
00:57:40.490 --> 00:57:42.625
ARMED ROBBERIES IN ONE NIGHT.
00:57:42.692 --> 00:57:44.861
AGAINST EIGHT DIFFERENT VICTIMS
00:57:44.928 --> 00:57:45.662
ONE OF THE VICTIMS WAS AN
00:57:45.728 --> 00:57:47.130
ELDERLY WOMAN THAT HE SHOVED TO
00:57:47.197 --> 00:57:48.464
THE GROUND BREAKING ONE OF HER
00:57:48.531 --> 00:57:49.966
LIMBS.
00:57:50.033 --> 00:57:51.901
UNDER THIS BILL THE JUDGE WOULD
00:57:51.968 --> 00:57:52.969
NOT BE ABLE TO TAKE INTO
00:57:53.036 --> 00:57:54.270
CONSIDERATION THE GREAT BODILY
00:57:54.337 --> 00:57:56.372
INJURY ALL OF THE OTHER ICTIMS
00:57:56.439 --> 00:57:57.507
WHERE HE POINTED A GUN IN THEIR
00:57:57.574 --> 00:57:58.741
FACES TOLD THEM HE WAS GOING TO
00:57:58.808 --> 00:57:59.709
KILL THEM.
00:57:59.776 --> 00:58:00.310
BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE A
00:58:00.376 --> 00:58:03.413
CAP UNDER THIS BILL IF IT WERE
00:58:03.479 --> 00:58:04.881
TO PASS THE MAXIMUM THAT PERSON
00:58:04.948 --> 00:58:06.449
WOULD GET IS TEN YEARS WHEN
00:58:06.516 --> 00:58:08.251
REALLY HE SHOULD BE FACING WELL
00:58:08.318 --> 00:58:09.752
OVER.
00:58:09.819 --> 00:58:10.320
THIRTY FIVE FOR ALL OF THE
00:58:10.386 --> 00:58:11.554
DIFFERENT VICTIMS ALL OF THE
00:58:11.621 --> 00:58:13.456
TIME TO USE THE GONE ALL OF THE
00:58:13.523 --> 00:58:14.858
TIMES THAT HE COULD HAVE FIRED
00:58:14.924 --> 00:58:16.059
THAT GUN WHAT IF ONE OF THE
00:58:16.125 --> 00:58:17.493
VICTIMS HAD ACTUALLY JUMPED UP
00:58:17.560 --> 00:58:18.761
AND TRIED TO TAKE THE GUN AWAY.
00:58:18.828 --> 00:58:21.331
THAT HAPPENS THEN PEOPLE DIE AND
00:58:21.397 --> 00:58:22.432
THAT'S WHY THE CURRENT
00:58:22.498 --> 00:58:24.000
SENTENCING STATUTES RE
00:58:24.067 --> 00:58:25.301
IMPORTANT BECAUSE THEY TAKE INTO
00:58:25.368 --> 00:58:26.502
ACCOUNT ALL OF THE DIFFERENT
00:58:26.569 --> 00:58:27.770
SCENARIOS.
00:58:27.837 --> 00:58:29.873
AND IMAGINE AND EVEN THOUGH THE
00:58:29.939 --> 00:58:31.941
BILL HAS EXCEPTIONS FOR OF MANY
00:58:32.008 --> 00:58:33.543
SEX CRIMES IT DOESN'T COVER
00:58:33.610 --> 00:58:35.578
EVERY SEX CRIME.
00:58:35.645 --> 00:58:37.680
IT A COACH OR A TEACHER WHO
00:58:37.747 --> 00:58:40.283
MOLESTS MULTIPLE FOURTEEN OR
00:58:40.350 --> 00:58:41.651
FIFTEEN YEAR OLDS IS NOT GOING
00:58:41.718 --> 00:58:43.186
TO GET CONSECUTIVE SENTENCING
00:58:43.253 --> 00:58:44.988
UNDER THIS BILL THERE'S GOING TO
00:58:45.054 --> 00:58:46.723
BE A CAP OF SIX YEARS FOR
00:58:46.789 --> 00:58:47.857
MOLESTING.
00:58:47.924 --> 00:58:50.426
MULTIPLE FIFTEEN OR FOURTEEN
00:58:50.493 --> 00:58:51.928
YEAR OLD SO YOU MIGHT AS WELL GO
00:58:51.995 --> 00:58:53.496
AHEAD AND MOLEST THIRTY OTHERS
00:58:53.563 --> 00:58:54.564
BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET
00:58:54.631 --> 00:58:58.501
PUNISHED FOR IT [inaudible]
00:58:58.568 --> 00:59:00.103
SHOOTINGS.
00:59:00.169 --> 00:59:01.404
IF YOU END UP SHOOTING AT
00:59:01.471 --> 00:59:03.706
MULTIPLE PEOPLE WITH THE INTENT
00:59:03.773 --> 00:59:05.241
TO KILL ASSUMING THERE'S NO --
00:59:05.308 --> 00:59:07.076
DELIBERATION OR PREMEDITATION SO
00:59:07.143 --> 00:59:09.112
IT'S NOT A LIFE OFFENSE.
00:59:09.178 --> 00:59:10.446
THE MULTIPLE SHOOTINGS WILL GET
00:59:10.513 --> 00:59:11.981
THE SAME SENTENCE AS THOUGH YOU
00:59:12.048 --> 00:59:13.549
SHOT AT ONE PERSON UNDER THIS
00:59:13.616 --> 00:59:17.353
BILL.
00:59:17.420 --> 00:59:19.422
LAST YEAR OUR FIREARMS
00:59:19.489 --> 00:59:20.790
ENHANCEMENTS BECAME
00:59:20.857 --> 00:59:22.258
DISCRETIONARY FOR THE JUDGE IN
00:59:22.325 --> 00:59:23.459
IN FACT THAT WAS SENATOR
00:59:23.526 --> 00:59:25.628
BRADFORD'S BILL.
00:59:25.695 --> 00:59:28.031
BUT NOW IF THIS BILL WERE TO
00:59:28.097 --> 00:59:29.866
BECOME LAW JUDGES WHO WANT TO
00:59:29.933 --> 00:59:31.634
IMPOSE A FIREARMS ENHANCEMENT IN
00:59:31.701 --> 00:59:33.069
A PARTICULAR CASE BECAUSE IS THE
00:59:33.136 --> 00:59:34.938
APPROPRIATE THING TO DO.
00:59:35.004 --> 00:59:35.905
ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO
00:59:35.972 --> 00:59:36.572
THAT.
00:59:36.639 --> 00:59:38.074
AND EVEN IF THEY DID IF YOU
00:59:38.141 --> 00:59:40.143
REACH A CERTAIN CAP IF YOU REACH
00:59:40.209 --> 00:59:42.245
A CERTAIN CAP YOU'RE NOT GOING
00:59:42.312 --> 00:59:43.880
TO BE ABLE TO IMPOSE IT BECAUSE
00:59:43.947 --> 00:59:45.415
HEY WE RUN OUT OF NUMBERS
00:59:45.481 --> 00:59:47.417
BECAUSE IT'S MORE THAN DOUBLE
00:59:47.483 --> 00:59:49.085
THE BASED TERM THAT'S TAKEN.
00:59:49.152 --> 00:59:50.286
THE PUNISHMENT SHOULD ALWAYS FIT
00:59:50.353 --> 00:59:51.821
THE CRIME.
00:59:51.888 --> 00:59:54.057
BUT THAT ALSO REQUIRES THAT WE
00:59:54.123 --> 00:59:55.925
NOT FORGET THE INNOCENT VICTIMS
00:59:55.992 --> 00:59:58.628
OF CRIME VICTIMS OF CRIME
00:59:58.695 --> 01:00:01.297
DESERVE JUSTICE AND SIMPLIFYING
01:00:01.364 --> 01:00:03.933
MATHEMATICS AND GETTING RID OF A
01:00:04.000 --> 01:00:07.403
THE THEREFORE THEIR SUFFERING.
01:00:07.470 --> 01:00:08.738
ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE ALL THESE
01:00:08.805 --> 01:00:10.473
MULTIPLE VICTIMS IMAGINE YOU
01:00:10.540 --> 01:00:12.375
HAVE A FOURTEEN YEAR OLD KID AND
01:00:12.442 --> 01:00:13.543
YOU SAY TO THAT COULD YOU KNOW
01:00:13.609 --> 01:00:15.778
WHAT THE PERSON WHO MOLESTED YOU.
01:00:15.845 --> 01:00:17.013
I'M SORRY WE'RE NOT GOING GOING
01:00:17.080 --> 01:00:18.681
TO BE ABLE TO SENTENCE THAT
01:00:18.748 --> 01:00:20.383
PERSON FOR YOUR MOLESTATION
01:00:20.450 --> 01:00:21.484
BECAUSE YOU HAPPEN TO BE KID
01:00:21.551 --> 01:00:23.453
NUMBER FIVE YOU HAPPEN TO BE KID
01:00:23.519 --> 01:00:25.722
NUMBER SIX THAT IS NOT JUSTICE.
01:00:25.788 --> 01:00:27.423
SO FOR THOSE REASONS WE
01:00:27.490 --> 01:00:30.526
RESPECTFULLY OPPOSE THIS BILL
01:00:30.593 --> 01:00:31.961
AND WE ASK FOR YOUR NO VOTE.
01:00:32.028 --> 01:00:33.463
THANK YOU THANK YOU OR ANY OTHER
01:00:33.529 --> 01:00:38.301
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION.
01:00:38.368 --> 01:00:39.335
JOHN DEMOING US THE CALIFORNIA
01:00:39.402 --> 01:00:41.938
POLICE ASSOCIATION OPPOSITIONS
01:00:42.005 --> 01:00:42.538
LIKE TO ECHO THE COMMENTS MADE
01:00:42.605 --> 01:00:43.072
MY COLLEAGUES [inaudible]
01:00:43.139 --> 01:00:47.010
THANK YOU.
01:00:47.076 --> 01:00:48.211
GOOD MORNING MISTER CHAIRMAN
01:00:48.277 --> 01:00:49.078
BRIDGE IS SHOWN MUCH LOWER ON
01:00:49.145 --> 01:00:49.645
THE AT THE CALIFORNIA STATE
01:00:49.712 --> 01:00:50.279
SHERIFFS ASSOCIATION OPPOSITION.
01:00:50.346 --> 01:00:52.515
THANK YOU.
01:00:52.582 --> 01:00:53.916
PARDEE QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE
01:00:53.983 --> 01:00:54.851
MEMBERS [inaudible]
01:00:54.917 --> 01:00:58.755
SUPPORT --
01:00:58.821 --> 01:01:00.023
FIRST MISTER BRADFORD COULD YOU
01:01:00.089 --> 01:01:02.625
RESPOND TO THE ARGUMENT FROM THE
01:01:02.692 --> 01:01:04.260
REPRESENTATIVE.
01:01:04.327 --> 01:01:06.496
OF THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY OF LA
01:01:06.562 --> 01:01:08.398
ABOUT NOT BEING ABLE TO PUNISH
01:01:08.464 --> 01:01:10.566
PEOPLE --
01:01:10.633 --> 01:01:13.269
FOR MOLESTATION.
01:01:13.336 --> 01:01:15.238
I I REALLY WANT YOU IF I CAN
01:01:15.304 --> 01:01:16.906
STOP LAUGHING AT THE COMICAL
01:01:16.973 --> 01:01:18.574
PRESENTATION THAT I JUST LISTEN
01:01:18.641 --> 01:01:19.609
TO I MEAN.
01:01:19.675 --> 01:01:21.978
IT'S ONE OF THE MOST.
01:01:22.045 --> 01:01:23.479
GROSS MIS REPRESENT
01:01:23.546 --> 01:01:27.984
REPRESENTATIONS OF THE PIECE OF
01:01:28.051 --> 01:01:28.985
EIGHT YEARS OF BEING HERE IN
01:01:29.052 --> 01:01:30.520
THIS LEGISLATURE IT'S FICTIONAL
01:01:30.586 --> 01:01:31.988
AT BEST.
01:01:32.055 --> 01:01:33.423
PEOPLE WHO COMMIT SEX CRIMES
01:01:33.489 --> 01:01:35.324
WILL STILL BE CONVICTED FOR
01:01:35.391 --> 01:01:38.061
THOSE SEX CRIMES EVEN THEN USING
01:01:38.127 --> 01:01:40.630
OF A GUN IT DOESN'T STRIKE ANY
01:01:40.696 --> 01:01:41.898
OF THAT OUT OF THAT.
01:01:41.964 --> 01:01:44.033
ANY SHE MADE TO REFERENCE TO GUN
01:01:44.100 --> 01:01:46.335
ENHANCEMENTS I PASSED A BILL
01:01:46.402 --> 01:01:47.503
LAST YEAR THE GOVERNOR SIGNED IT
01:01:47.570 --> 01:01:50.039
ON JUDICIAL DISCRETION ON GUN
01:01:50.106 --> 01:01:50.873
ENHANCEMENT BENNETT HAPPENS
01:01:50.940 --> 01:01:52.275
DON'T GO AWAY YOU JUST GIVE THE
01:01:52.341 --> 01:01:54.343
JUDGE'S DISCRETION AT SENTENCING
01:01:54.410 --> 01:01:55.344
TIME.
01:01:55.411 --> 01:01:57.480
SEEM ASK HERE YOU HAVE TO BE A
01:01:57.547 --> 01:02:00.283
MATHEMATICIAN TO FIGURE OUT HOW
01:02:00.349 --> 01:02:02.919
MUCH TIME SOMEONE GETS ARE.
01:02:02.985 --> 01:02:06.222
BASED ON OUR CURRENT ALL A
01:02:06.289 --> 01:02:08.424
SENTENCING LAW SHOW.
01:02:08.491 --> 01:02:11.094
I I'M PANEL LOSS --
01:02:11.160 --> 01:02:13.696
A DOCTOR QUIRK BECAUSE I I'M
01:02:13.763 --> 01:02:15.465
INSULTED BY THAT PRESENTATION
01:02:15.531 --> 01:02:16.599
BECAUSE IT TOTALLY REPORT RE I
01:02:16.666 --> 01:02:18.601
MISS REPRESENTS EVERYTHING THAT
01:02:18.668 --> 01:02:20.803
THIS THE PIECE OF LEGISLATION
01:02:20.870 --> 01:02:22.338
AYE AYES IS INTENDING TO DO.
01:02:22.405 --> 01:02:24.540
HERE TO SIMPLIFY IT'S NOT TO LET
01:02:24.607 --> 01:02:27.110
ANYONE OUT OF JAIL IT'S NOT TOO
01:02:27.176 --> 01:02:28.945
WELL ABOUT A WEEK IN OUR OUR
01:02:29.011 --> 01:02:30.580
SENTENCING LAWS WHATSOEVER.
01:02:30.646 --> 01:02:32.248
SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION AT
01:02:32.315 --> 01:02:33.616
THIS BILL DOES NOT CHANGE THAT
01:02:33.683 --> 01:02:35.685
IT STILL GIVES THE JUDGE AND THE
01:02:35.751 --> 01:02:38.087
PROSECUTOR THE SAME TO ALL WERE
01:02:38.154 --> 01:02:39.155
JUST SEEN WHEN YOU SENTENCE
01:02:39.222 --> 01:02:41.357
SOMEBODY WHEN WE WE MAKE IT WHAT
01:02:41.424 --> 01:02:42.291
WE CAN UNDERSTAND IT.
01:02:42.358 --> 01:02:43.226
WELL BETTER ARGUMENT WAS --
01:02:43.292 --> 01:02:45.828
IF.
01:02:45.895 --> 01:02:47.029
AT SOME LOWER LEVEL I'M NOT
01:02:47.096 --> 01:02:48.898
QUITE SURE.
01:02:48.965 --> 01:02:49.932
WHAT'S INCLUDED IN THIS INVITE
01:02:49.999 --> 01:02:51.934
ISN'T BUT IF YOU MOLESTED SOME
01:02:52.001 --> 01:02:54.070
LOWER LEVEL --
01:02:54.137 --> 01:02:55.304
SHE USED A TEACHER EXAMPLE TO
01:02:55.371 --> 01:02:58.241
CRIMES RATHER THAN FIVE I MEAN I
01:02:58.307 --> 01:02:59.308
I DON'T UNDERSTAND YOUR BILL
01:02:59.375 --> 01:03:01.978
WELL ENOUGH NOW. TO YOUR EXPERTS
01:03:02.044 --> 01:03:03.012
ARE SAYING NOW TELL ME.
01:03:03.079 --> 01:03:04.814
SPECIFIC EXCEPTION COULD CLOSE
01:03:04.881 --> 01:03:05.781
TO LIKE.
01:03:05.848 --> 01:03:08.084
THERE'S A SPECIFIC EXCEPTION FOR
01:03:08.151 --> 01:03:08.684
SIX SIX SEVEN POINT SIX WHICH
01:03:08.751 --> 01:03:10.219
ALLOWS FOR CONSECUTIVE
01:03:10.286 --> 01:03:13.256
SENTENCING FOR FORCIBLE ANY SORT
01:03:13.322 --> 01:03:14.957
OF FORCIBLE MOLESTATION IMPACT.
01:03:15.024 --> 01:03:18.327
AND WHAT ABOUT --
01:03:18.394 --> 01:03:18.895
FIVE ARMED ROBBERIES IN ONE
01:03:18.961 --> 01:03:20.963
NIGHT.
01:03:21.030 --> 01:03:22.498
WOULD YOU WOULD YOU GO TO DOUBLE
01:03:22.565 --> 01:03:24.433
WHAT IT IS FOR NON BRIBERY OR
01:03:24.500 --> 01:03:27.270
WOULD YOU DO IF THE YOU YOU WILL
01:03:27.336 --> 01:03:28.504
DOUBLE THE BASE TERM SO IF THE
01:03:28.571 --> 01:03:30.273
JUDGE SAYS OKAY ARMED ROBBERY
01:03:30.339 --> 01:03:31.641
THE MAXIMUM SENTENCES.
01:03:31.707 --> 01:03:33.176
TAKE TEN YEARS YOU GET TWENTY
01:03:33.242 --> 01:03:35.144
YEARS FOR THAT.
01:03:35.211 --> 01:03:35.745
THAT'S NOT A LIGHT SENTENCE AT
01:03:35.811 --> 01:03:37.380
ALL.
01:03:37.446 --> 01:03:39.348
YOU GET TWENTY YEARS FOR THAT SO
01:03:39.415 --> 01:03:40.283
WHATEVER THAT SENTENCES WERE
01:03:40.349 --> 01:03:42.351
SEEN DOUBLE THAT.
01:03:42.418 --> 01:03:44.554
AND AYE NW SHOULD EXPECT TO DO
01:03:44.620 --> 01:03:46.189
MORE THAN THAT BASED ON THE
01:03:46.255 --> 01:03:47.757
CRIME THAT WAS COMMITTED WERE
01:03:47.823 --> 01:03:49.492
SAYING DOUBLE THAT BASED TERM SO
01:03:49.559 --> 01:03:51.027
WE EVEN TO JUDGE USE.
01:03:51.093 --> 01:03:51.694
THAT -- THE
01:03:51.761 --> 01:03:54.130
MINIMUM SENTENCING --
01:03:54.197 --> 01:03:56.065
THE MIDDLE RANGE OR THE MAXIMUM
01:03:56.132 --> 01:03:56.566
RANGE WE SEE DOUBLE THAT
01:03:56.632 --> 01:03:56.866
[inaudible]
01:03:56.933 --> 01:04:01.270
BASED BASIS YEAH I AGREE THAT.
01:04:01.337 --> 01:04:03.506
A PEOPLE DON'T CALCULATE WHAT
01:04:03.573 --> 01:04:05.007
THE TERM IS GOING TO BE WHEN
01:04:05.074 --> 01:04:06.976
THEY GO OUT AND COMMIT A CRIME.
01:04:07.043 --> 01:04:08.844
YEAH SO THAT I DON'T SEE THE
01:04:08.911 --> 01:04:10.379
DETERRENCE VALUE FURTHER FOR
01:04:10.446 --> 01:04:11.514
SOMEBODY'S BEEN IMPRISONED
01:04:11.581 --> 01:04:13.416
TWENTY YEARS.
01:04:13.482 --> 01:04:14.784
THERE ARE DIFFERENT PERSON
01:04:14.850 --> 01:04:16.953
COMING OUT TYPICALLY THESE ARE
01:04:17.019 --> 01:04:18.621
DONE BY YOUNG MAN AND I GONNA
01:04:18.688 --> 01:04:19.622
TALK ABOUT MIDDLE AGED MAN.
01:04:19.689 --> 01:04:20.890
SO I DON'T SEE THE POINT IN
01:04:20.957 --> 01:04:22.391
KEEPING THE MEN FOR THESE VERY
01:04:22.458 --> 01:04:23.559
LONG TIMES.
01:04:23.626 --> 01:04:26.662
NOR BUT MAYBE YOU AND I COULD
01:04:26.729 --> 01:04:28.564
WORK TOGETHER ON GETTING RID OF
01:04:28.631 --> 01:04:29.966
SOME OF THIS COMPLEXITY SO
01:04:30.032 --> 01:04:31.934
INSTEAD OF FIVE LAYERS LAYERS
01:04:32.001 --> 01:04:32.969
THERE'S CHIU.
01:04:33.035 --> 01:04:36.706
OR WHATEVER RATHER THAN --
01:04:36.772 --> 01:04:38.674
THIS APPROACH WHICH I AGREE WITH
01:04:38.741 --> 01:04:39.942
THEM IN FACT I'D LIKE TO BE A CO
01:04:40.009 --> 01:04:41.744
AUTHOR.
01:04:41.811 --> 01:04:43.246
HOW BECAUSE I THINK TOO MANY
01:04:43.312 --> 01:04:46.082
PEOPLE END UP IN JAIL FOR TO LOG?
01:04:46.148 --> 01:04:49.752
AND IT'S NOT A DETERRENT WAY AND
01:04:49.819 --> 01:04:50.953
TO KEEP SOMEBODY AND YEARS
01:04:51.020 --> 01:04:55.024
INSTEAD A TWENTY BUT THE
01:04:55.091 --> 01:04:56.626
COMPLEXITY SOUNDS LIKE A REAL
01:04:56.692 --> 01:04:58.828
ISSUE AND WITH ALL DUE RESPECT
01:04:58.894 --> 01:05:02.131
FOR THE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE
01:05:02.198 --> 01:05:03.499
DISTRICT ATTORNEY OF LA IT
01:05:03.566 --> 01:05:04.567
SOUNDS LIKE PEOPLE DO MAKE
01:05:04.634 --> 01:05:05.868
MISTAKES.
01:05:05.935 --> 01:05:07.169
AND I THINK WE OUGHT TO GET RID
01:05:07.236 --> 01:05:08.204
OF THAT AND PERHAPS YOU AND I
01:05:08.271 --> 01:05:09.872
COULD WORK TOGETHER ON IT NEXT
01:05:09.939 --> 01:05:11.374
YEAR HAVING SAID THAT.
01:05:11.440 --> 01:05:12.275
I DON'T THINK THE BILL IS BEEN
01:05:12.341 --> 01:05:13.976
MOVED SO LET ME MOVE THE BELL
01:05:14.043 --> 01:05:17.046
THANK YOU.
01:05:17.113 --> 01:05:18.014
AB MISTER LACKEY HAS A QUESTION
01:05:18.080 --> 01:05:19.649
OR COMMENT.
01:05:19.715 --> 01:05:23.085
YEAH CERTAINLY BOTH --
01:05:23.152 --> 01:05:24.420
CENTER BRADFORD I HAVE GREAT
01:05:24.487 --> 01:05:25.721
RESPECT FOR YOU SELECT SO PLEASE
01:05:25.788 --> 01:05:27.189
DON'T TAKE MY COMMENTS AS AN
01:05:27.256 --> 01:05:29.525
INSULT BUT I AFTER COLLEGES LACY
01:05:29.592 --> 01:05:31.093
IT.
01:05:31.160 --> 01:05:33.229
AND I LIKE TO ASK --
01:05:33.296 --> 01:05:34.997
LARA DISTRICT ATTORNEY TO
01:05:35.064 --> 01:05:36.065
CLARIFY THE CLAIM [inaudible]
01:05:36.132 --> 01:05:39.201
AND TO ADDRESS SPECIFICALLY THE
01:05:39.268 --> 01:05:40.936
EXAMPLE THAT YOU USED TO EIGHTY
01:05:41.003 --> 01:05:42.738
EIGHT DAY IS NOT INCLUDED AND
01:05:42.805 --> 01:05:45.007
SIXTY OR SIX SIX SEVEN POINT SIX
01:05:45.074 --> 01:05:46.909
IS NOT CORRECT.
01:05:46.976 --> 01:05:48.411
I WAS REFERRING TO TWO EIGHTY
01:05:48.477 --> 01:05:49.278
EIGHT C. WHICH IS A QUALITY
01:05:49.345 --> 01:05:50.913
NATION OF A FOURTEEN OR FIFTEEN
01:05:50.980 --> 01:05:52.148
YEAR OLD --
01:05:52.214 --> 01:05:53.816
CHILD MOLESTATION ISN'T
01:05:53.883 --> 01:05:55.885
NECESSARILY ALWAYS FORCIBLE SO
01:05:55.951 --> 01:05:57.887
WE'RE NOT ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT
01:05:57.953 --> 01:05:59.789
FORCEABLE RAPE ABOUT.
01:05:59.855 --> 01:06:01.390
IT'S IT'S A VERY DELICATE
01:06:01.457 --> 01:06:03.826
SUBJECT AND THEY ARE OF KIDS CAN
01:06:03.893 --> 01:06:05.361
BE MOLESTED WITHOUT BEING FORCED
01:06:05.428 --> 01:06:06.696
INTO IT IN OTHER WORDS I THINK
01:06:06.762 --> 01:06:07.596
WE'VE SEEN THAT --
01:06:07.663 --> 01:06:09.432
PLAY OUT EVEN IN THE NEWS VERY
01:06:09.498 --> 01:06:11.500
RECENTLY WITH THE YOU KNOW THE
01:06:11.567 --> 01:06:13.002
OLYMPICS COMMITTEE FOR EXAMPLE
01:06:13.069 --> 01:06:15.204
OF EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED. TO
01:06:15.271 --> 01:06:16.439
THOSE GIRLS --
01:06:16.505 --> 01:06:18.307
IS NOT NECESSARILY FORCIBLE BUT
01:06:18.374 --> 01:06:19.942
IT HAPPENS AND IF THEY'RE
01:06:20.009 --> 01:06:20.910
FOURTEEN OR FIFTEEN YEARS OLD IN
01:06:20.976 --> 01:06:22.745
CALIFORNIA IT'S TWO EIGHTY EIGHT
01:06:22.812 --> 01:06:24.213
C. AND UNDER --
01:06:24.280 --> 01:06:27.383
THIS BILL THE MAXIMUM OF FOR THE
01:06:27.450 --> 01:06:28.784
BASE TERM IS THREE YEARS SO IF
01:06:28.851 --> 01:06:30.653
YOU DOUBLED UP THAT SIX YEARS SO
01:06:30.720 --> 01:06:31.821
IF YOU MOLEST THIRTY KIDS FORTY
01:06:31.887 --> 01:06:33.456
KIDS WHO ARE FOURTEEN OR FIFTEEN
01:06:33.522 --> 01:06:33.989
YEARS OLD.
01:06:34.056 --> 01:06:35.391
YES YOU'RE ONLY GOING TO GET SIX
01:06:35.458 --> 01:06:37.059
YEARS FOR THAT AND THERE'S GOING
01:06:37.126 --> 01:06:38.561
TO BE GOOD TIME --
01:06:38.627 --> 01:06:39.128
CREDITS FOR THAT AS WELL SO
01:06:39.195 --> 01:06:40.663
YOU'RE NOT IN --
01:06:40.730 --> 01:06:43.699
SIX YEARS AND CERTAINLY I DON'T
01:06:43.766 --> 01:06:45.201
SEE THAT IS LAUGHABLE IN ANY WAY
01:06:45.267 --> 01:06:46.335
SHAPE OR FORM.
01:06:46.402 --> 01:06:47.136
I THINK THAT --
01:06:47.203 --> 01:06:48.571
THERE THERE WOULD BE SOME VERY
01:06:48.637 --> 01:06:51.974
SERIOUS INJUSTICES TO VICTIMS.
01:06:52.041 --> 01:06:53.576
WE CAN TALK ABOUT TIMES.
01:06:53.642 --> 01:06:55.911
TIME MEANT AND REHABILITATION
01:06:55.978 --> 01:06:57.279
BUT THERE COMES A POINT TO WHERE
01:06:57.346 --> 01:06:58.514
SOME OF THESE CRIMES ARE BEING
01:06:58.581 --> 01:06:59.515
CONVICTED.
01:06:59.582 --> 01:07:01.417
ARE MORE THAN JUST.
01:07:01.484 --> 01:07:03.052
LAPSES OF JUDGMENT WHEN MAKING
01:07:03.119 --> 01:07:05.888
IT SOUND LIKE IT'S SOMEBODY --
01:07:05.955 --> 01:07:07.757
MAKING THE CHOICE TO DRIVE TO
01:07:07.823 --> 01:07:09.291
FASTER.
01:07:09.358 --> 01:07:10.926
NO WE HAVE VICTIMS THAT ARE.
01:07:10.993 --> 01:07:12.261
IMPACTED BY SOMEONE IS CRIMINAL
01:07:12.328 --> 01:07:14.730
OF BEHAVIORS FOR THEIR LIVES.
01:07:14.797 --> 01:07:16.198
THEY GET NO RELIEF FROM FROM
01:07:16.265 --> 01:07:18.834
THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES AND I THINK
01:07:18.901 --> 01:07:19.869
THAT WE HAVE TO BE VERY VERY
01:07:19.935 --> 01:07:20.336
CAREFUL --
01:07:20.403 --> 01:07:22.872
IN.
01:07:22.938 --> 01:07:24.073
AND OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO SERVE
01:07:24.140 --> 01:07:26.108
VICTIMS AS WELL AS PERPETRATORS
01:07:26.175 --> 01:07:27.476
AND SO FOR THAT REASON I WILL BE
01:07:27.543 --> 01:07:28.477
ABLE TO SUPPORT US [inaudible]
01:07:28.544 --> 01:07:30.045
THANK YOU.
01:07:30.112 --> 01:07:32.581
BUT ANYMORE COMMENT.
01:07:32.648 --> 01:07:33.382
YES --
01:07:33.449 --> 01:07:35.451
SENATOR BRADFORD MAYBE YOU AND
01:07:35.518 --> 01:07:37.052
YOUR COLLEAGUES CAN SPEAK TO
01:07:37.119 --> 01:07:37.987
THIS I HAVE A QUESTION
01:07:38.053 --> 01:07:40.790
SPECIFICALLY AS IT RELATES.
01:07:40.856 --> 01:07:41.757
TO SEX CRIMES BUT MAYBE MORE
01:07:41.824 --> 01:07:43.058
GENERALLY.
01:07:43.125 --> 01:07:45.394
IF YOU COMMIT ONE OF THESE
01:07:45.461 --> 01:07:49.432
CRIMES MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT --
01:07:49.498 --> 01:07:51.934
THEY'RE STACKABLE --
01:07:52.001 --> 01:07:53.636
IN TERMS OF THE SENTENCING IS
01:07:53.702 --> 01:07:54.970
THAT TRUE ANSWER.
01:07:55.037 --> 01:07:57.506
THAT THEY'RE STACKABLE.
01:07:57.573 --> 01:07:59.775
SENTENCING SO MAY BE ONE OF THE
01:07:59.842 --> 01:08:02.311
LAWYERS COULD SPEAK TO THIS YEAR
01:08:02.378 --> 01:08:04.213
FOR INTO SEX OFFENSES IN HIM YES
01:08:04.280 --> 01:08:06.649
UNDER SIX SIX SEVEN POINT.
01:08:06.715 --> 01:08:07.950
SIX THEY'RE FULLY STACKABLE THAN
01:08:08.017 --> 01:08:09.351
IT DOES INCLUDE.
01:08:09.418 --> 01:08:11.287
A LEWD AND LASCIVIOUS ACTS WITH
01:08:11.353 --> 01:08:12.755
A CHILD UNDER TO EIGHTY EIGHT BE
01:08:12.822 --> 01:08:14.390
IT ALSO INCLUDES CONTINUOUS
01:08:14.457 --> 01:08:16.859
SEXUAL MISCONDUCT WITH A CHILD
01:08:16.926 --> 01:08:18.294
UNDER. TO EIGHTY EIGHT POINT
01:08:18.360 --> 01:08:19.328
FIVE IN THOSE ARE FULL TERM
01:08:19.395 --> 01:08:21.864
STACKING SO OF FORCIBLE MOST OF
01:08:21.931 --> 01:08:23.699
MY THREE YEARS SIX YEARS EIGHT
01:08:23.766 --> 01:08:24.433
YEARS.
01:08:24.500 --> 01:08:28.370
SHE COULD GO [inaudible] EIGHT
01:08:28.437 --> 01:08:29.772
EIGHT EIGHT EIGHT AND ITSELF AND
01:08:29.839 --> 01:08:32.074
I'M SORRY EIGHT EIGHT EIGHT THAT
01:08:32.141 --> 01:08:32.641
ADDS UP DOESN'T IT YES IT.
01:08:32.708 --> 01:08:33.876
VERY QUICKLY
01:08:33.943 --> 01:08:36.111
VERY QUICKLY I'M SORRY IF I
01:08:36.178 --> 01:08:37.813
INTERRUPTED YOU DID YOU WANNA
01:08:37.880 --> 01:08:40.382
FINISH WHAT YOU WERE SAYING
01:08:40.449 --> 01:08:41.550
AHEAD WITH.
01:08:41.617 --> 01:08:43.118
THIS [inaudible]
01:08:43.185 --> 01:08:45.454
WE ACCEPTED.
01:08:45.521 --> 01:08:46.555
WHAT THE EXEMPTION UNDER SIX SIX
01:08:46.622 --> 01:08:47.156
SEVEN POINT SIX COULD YOU SAY
01:08:47.223 --> 01:08:48.657
THAT AGAIN IN THE MICROPHONE?
01:08:48.724 --> 01:08:49.458
THE THE DOUBLE BASS TERM IS
01:08:49.525 --> 01:08:52.761
SPECIFICALLY EXEMPTED UNDER.
01:08:52.828 --> 01:08:53.996
TWELVE SEVENTY NINE UNDER SIX
01:08:54.063 --> 01:08:57.099
SIX SEVEN POINT SIX AND SECTION
01:08:57.166 --> 01:08:58.734
TWO ELEVEN SEVENTY POINT ONE A
01:08:58.801 --> 01:09:00.703
AYE TO IN THE BILL.
01:09:00.769 --> 01:09:01.637
THAT'S WILL REFER.
01:09:01.704 --> 01:09:03.172
AND CAN I ADD THAT IF IT'S UNDER
01:09:03.239 --> 01:09:05.374
CERTAIN SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES
01:09:05.441 --> 01:09:06.675
LEWD LASCIVIOUS ACTS CARRIES A
01:09:06.742 --> 01:09:08.010
LIFE SENTENCE.
01:09:08.077 --> 01:09:11.780
UNDER SIX SIX SEVEN POINT.
01:09:11.847 --> 01:09:12.381
SIX ONE THANK YOU SO SENATOR
01:09:12.448 --> 01:09:13.916
BRADFORD AYE I HAVE ANOTHER
01:09:13.983 --> 01:09:15.317
QUESTION FOR YOU.
01:09:15.384 --> 01:09:17.720
IS THE INTENT OF THIS BILL TO
01:09:17.786 --> 01:09:20.256
LET EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO GETS
01:09:20.322 --> 01:09:22.358
CONVICTED OUT.
01:09:22.424 --> 01:09:25.427
NO I I MEAN IT'S THAT'S THE MOST
01:09:25.494 --> 01:09:27.796
RIDICULOUS DOES REFERENCE HERE
01:09:27.863 --> 01:09:29.331
WERE ALL ABOUT CRIMINAL JUSTICE
01:09:29.398 --> 01:09:31.233
HERE IT'S NOT A SINGLE PERSON IN
01:09:31.300 --> 01:09:31.967
THIS BUILDING THAT WANT
01:09:32.034 --> 01:09:33.636
CRIMINALS WALKING FREE ON THE
01:09:33.702 --> 01:09:35.804
STREET WE WANT PEOPLE SENTENCED
01:09:35.871 --> 01:09:37.406
FOR THE CRIMES THAT THEY COMMIT.
01:09:37.473 --> 01:09:39.475
WERE JUST SEEM TO NOT THROW
01:09:39.542 --> 01:09:41.977
PEOPLE'S LIVES AWAY BY OUR KICK
01:09:42.044 --> 01:09:43.746
SENTENCING.
01:09:43.812 --> 01:09:45.714
SHOP MECHANISM THAT WAS IN.
01:09:45.781 --> 01:09:48.751
AN ACTIVE HERE IN CALIFORNIA IN
01:09:48.817 --> 01:09:49.351
NINETEEN NINETY SEVEN ON THIS
01:09:49.418 --> 01:09:51.387
WHOLE TOUGH ON CRIME MOVEMENT WE
01:09:51.453 --> 01:09:53.289
HAD DOUBLE THE BASED TERM WASN'T
01:09:53.355 --> 01:09:57.092
ACTING IN CALIFORNIA IN.
01:09:57.159 --> 01:09:58.227
NINETEEN SEVENTY SIX WE HAD IT
01:09:58.294 --> 01:09:59.995
FOR TWENTY YEARS UNTIL WE DECIDE
01:10:00.062 --> 01:10:02.164
TO BECOME TOUGH ON CRIME AND
01:10:02.231 --> 01:10:03.032
COME OUT WITH THIS ARE KICK
01:10:03.098 --> 01:10:03.332
[inaudible]
01:10:03.399 --> 01:10:05.434
OUCH.
01:10:05.501 --> 01:10:06.569
LARA METHOD OF A SENTENCING
01:10:06.635 --> 01:10:08.304
PEOPLE RIGHT NOW SO IT WORKED
01:10:08.370 --> 01:10:10.072
ALL THE WAY UP UNTIL THAT TIME
01:10:10.139 --> 01:10:12.207
AND IT'S THIS WHOLE ENHANCEMENT
01:10:12.274 --> 01:10:14.410
IT'S REACHED OUR RESULT OF THIS
01:10:14.476 --> 01:10:16.879
WHOLE TOUGH ON CRIME MOVEMENT
01:10:16.946 --> 01:10:17.112
YOU GO.
01:10:17.179 --> 01:10:21.150
AND BASED ON OUR OPPOSITION
01:10:21.216 --> 01:10:22.484
CRIME HAS NOT DECREASED SO
01:10:22.551 --> 01:10:24.019
OBVIOUSLY ARE TOUGH ON CRIME
01:10:24.086 --> 01:10:26.322
METHODS HAVE NOT WORKED SO ALL
01:10:26.388 --> 01:10:27.856
WERE SEEN AS NOT DON'T THOUGH
01:10:27.923 --> 01:10:29.592
SOMEONE'S LIFE AWAY.
01:10:29.658 --> 01:10:31.961
BASED ON SOME ARCHAIC BAH
01:10:32.027 --> 01:10:33.829
CALCULATIONTHAT WE CAME UP WITH
01:10:33.896 --> 01:10:35.564
TWENTY YEARS AGO AND GIVE PEOPLE
01:10:35.631 --> 01:10:37.499
A CHANCE AND AND AND IT WOULD
01:10:37.566 --> 01:10:39.068
APPEAR JUST SENTENCE.
01:10:39.134 --> 01:10:41.737
THANK YOU SO I TO WANT TO ECHO
01:10:41.804 --> 01:10:43.038
SOME OF THE SENTIMENTS OF MY
01:10:43.105 --> 01:10:44.306
COLLEAGUE --
01:10:44.373 --> 01:10:45.874
ASSEMBLY MEMBER QUIRK ABOUT THIS
01:10:45.941 --> 01:10:46.342
BILL --
01:10:46.408 --> 01:10:48.644
YOU'RE RIGHT.
01:10:48.711 --> 01:10:49.745
THESE ARE NOT MATH PROBLEMS THEY
01:10:49.812 --> 01:10:51.714
ARE PEOPLE.
01:10:51.780 --> 01:10:54.016
WHO COME BEFORE JUDGES WHO ARE
01:10:54.083 --> 01:10:55.985
REPRESENTED BY ATTORNEYS IN
01:10:56.051 --> 01:10:57.720
COURT HOUSES WHO OFTENTIMES ARE
01:10:57.786 --> 01:10:59.288
FACED [inaudible]
01:10:59.355 --> 01:11:01.757
BY JURIES HOPEFULLY A BUNCH OF
01:11:01.824 --> 01:11:03.525
THEIR PEERS.
01:11:03.592 --> 01:11:06.195
AND SO WITH ALL DUE RESPECT.
01:11:06.261 --> 01:11:08.564
YOU KNOW THESE ARE NOT.
01:11:08.631 --> 01:11:10.132
ELSE OUT EXAMPLES THAT WE'RE
01:11:10.199 --> 01:11:12.935
TALKING ABOUT [inaudible]
01:11:13.002 --> 01:11:14.703
IT.
01:11:14.770 --> 01:11:16.705
THEY ARE HUMAN BEINGS SOME OF
01:11:16.772 --> 01:11:18.474
THEM ARE TRYING TO REHABILITATE
01:11:18.540 --> 01:11:19.808
MAYBE SOME OF THEM ARE NOT BUT
01:11:19.875 --> 01:11:20.876
THAT IS CERTAINLY NOT FOR US TO
01:11:20.943 --> 01:11:22.311
DECIDE.
01:11:22.378 --> 01:11:23.545
IT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU GO
01:11:23.612 --> 01:11:25.648
BEFORE A JUDGE WHEN YOU HAVE DUE
01:11:25.714 --> 01:11:28.017
PROCESS AND WHEN BOTH SIDES ARE
01:11:28.083 --> 01:11:30.085
PRESENTING EVIDENCE.
01:11:30.152 --> 01:11:32.454
AND SO I MIGHT QUESTION ALWAYS
01:11:32.521 --> 01:11:33.555
ESPECIALLY WITH THE NUMBER OF
01:11:33.622 --> 01:11:35.224
THESE BILLS THAT COME BEFORE US.
01:11:35.290 --> 01:11:37.226
IS IF WE ARE JUST TRYING TO FIND
01:11:37.292 --> 01:11:40.262
WAYS TO LOCK PEOPLE UP FOR EVER
01:11:40.329 --> 01:11:41.830
MORE IF WE ARE TRYING TO FIND
01:11:41.897 --> 01:11:43.699
WAYS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE
01:11:43.766 --> 01:11:45.868
UPHOLDING DUE PROCESS WHILE
01:11:45.934 --> 01:11:47.736
PUTTING FORTH AN ALLOWING WAYS
01:11:47.803 --> 01:11:48.837
TO PUT FORTH COMMONSENSE
01:11:48.904 --> 01:11:50.205
EVIDENCE.
01:11:50.272 --> 01:11:52.908
SO THAT FOLKS CAN BE TRIED.
01:11:52.975 --> 01:11:55.144
THANK YOU MISTER THANK YOU.
01:11:55.210 --> 01:11:56.645
OR ANY OTHER.
01:11:56.712 --> 01:11:57.279
QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS COMMITTEE
01:11:57.346 --> 01:11:58.747
MEMBERS.
01:11:58.814 --> 01:11:59.415
MR BRADFORD YOU MAY.
01:11:59.481 --> 01:12:01.583
CONCLUDE.
01:12:01.650 --> 01:12:02.151
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIRMAN
01:12:02.217 --> 01:12:03.919
MEMBERS AND I WANT TO THANK --
01:12:03.986 --> 01:12:05.821
THE ROBUST DISCUSSION HERE THIS
01:12:05.888 --> 01:12:08.357
MORNING AND APPLE.
01:12:08.424 --> 01:12:10.159
ARE THE INTENT OF THIS
01:12:10.225 --> 01:12:12.294
LEGISLATION IS NOT THOUGH OPEN
01:12:12.361 --> 01:12:14.329
THE FLOOD GATES ALLOW CRIMINALS
01:12:14.396 --> 01:12:16.031
TO RUN FREE HERE IN THE STATE OF
01:12:16.098 --> 01:12:17.066
CALIFORNIA.
01:12:17.132 --> 01:12:19.601
OUR INTENT HERE IS TO COME UP
01:12:19.668 --> 01:12:21.937
WITH EIGHT SENSIBLE SYMBOLIZE
01:12:22.004 --> 01:12:24.773
METHOD AND WHICH WE AW SENTENCE
01:12:24.840 --> 01:12:27.876
INDIVIDUALS AS FONG.
01:12:27.943 --> 01:12:29.378
MISTER LACKEY --
01:12:29.445 --> 01:12:30.913
STATED -- WE
01:12:30.979 --> 01:12:33.015
HAVE THE ULTIMATE AND DUE
01:12:33.082 --> 01:12:35.084
RESPECT FOR LONG FONG THE LAW
01:12:35.150 --> 01:12:36.385
HERE IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA
01:12:36.452 --> 01:12:38.987
AND IT'S NOT OUR INTENT AT ALL.
01:12:39.054 --> 01:12:40.089
BUT AGAIN EVIDENCE IF PROVEN
01:12:40.155 --> 01:12:43.225
THAT [inaudible]
01:12:43.292 --> 01:12:46.929
MADE OF THE DEATH SENTENCE HAS
01:12:46.995 --> 01:12:48.797
NOT DETERRED NOT ONE PERSON FROM
01:12:48.864 --> 01:12:50.599
COMMITTING MURDER.
01:12:50.666 --> 01:12:52.067
BUT WE HAVE A DEATH SENTENCE AND
01:12:52.134 --> 01:12:53.702
MANY STATE BUT IT HAS NOT
01:12:53.769 --> 01:12:55.304
DETERRED PEOPLE FROM.
01:12:55.370 --> 01:12:58.407
COMMITTING MURDER TO SHAME HERE
01:12:58.474 --> 01:13:00.609
HAVING THIS ARCHAIC.
01:13:00.676 --> 01:13:02.411
MY WAY OF CALCULATING SENTENCE
01:13:02.478 --> 01:13:03.912
IS NOT A SINGLE CROCK CRIMINALS
01:13:03.979 --> 01:13:05.047
THINKING YOU KNOW LET ME
01:13:05.114 --> 01:13:06.849
CALCULATE THIS BEFORE I GO DO
01:13:06.915 --> 01:13:08.050
THIS ARMED ROBBERY AND IF I DO
01:13:08.117 --> 01:13:09.485
THIS AND I DO THIS AND I DO IT
01:13:09.551 --> 01:13:10.519
MULTIPLE TIMES.
01:13:10.586 --> 01:13:12.488
THEY'RE NOT THINKING LIKE THAT.
01:13:12.554 --> 01:13:14.223
THIS IS A COMMON SENSE APPROACH
01:13:14.289 --> 01:13:15.057
TO ADDRESS A PROBLEM THAT WE
01:13:15.124 --> 01:13:17.826
CREATED IN THIS LEGISLATURE
01:13:17.893 --> 01:13:18.293
TWENTY YEARS AGO AND I
01:13:18.360 --> 01:13:19.995
RESPECTFULLY ASK RAGO.
01:13:20.062 --> 01:13:22.331
THANK YOU AND WE HAVE A LOT OF
01:13:22.397 --> 01:13:23.832
THE MOTION AND SECOND AND I
01:13:23.899 --> 01:13:24.433
WANNA.
01:13:24.500 --> 01:13:25.901
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THE
01:13:25.968 --> 01:13:27.269
SUBJECT UP --
01:13:27.336 --> 01:13:29.772
OBVIOUSLY THE THE OPPONENT.
01:13:29.838 --> 01:13:30.973
AND YOU MISTER BRADFORD A VERY
01:13:31.039 --> 01:13:32.975
VERY PASSIONATE --
01:13:33.041 --> 01:13:34.476
ABOUT THIS AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT
01:13:34.543 --> 01:13:37.679
LADY JUSTICE YOU SEE THE SCALES --
01:13:37.746 --> 01:13:39.681
SOME OF US BELIEVE.
01:13:39.748 --> 01:13:41.316
OVER THE LAST THIRTY YEARS IT'S
01:13:41.383 --> 01:13:42.718
BEEN MORE INCARCERATION AND
01:13:42.785 --> 01:13:44.419
PUNISHMENT.
01:13:44.486 --> 01:13:47.956
DAN OF REHABILITATION AND DIDN'T
01:13:48.023 --> 01:13:49.858
PROVIDING AND SOMEHOW.
01:13:49.925 --> 01:13:50.859
WE TRY TO REACH THAT BALANCED
01:13:50.926 --> 01:13:52.761
THE DEEPEST BILL CADA GETS US TO
01:13:52.828 --> 01:13:56.298
A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO BALLOTS.
01:13:56.365 --> 01:13:58.066
HOPEFULLY ALSO TAKE INTO
01:13:58.133 --> 01:13:59.134
CONSIDERATION THERE ARE SOME
01:13:59.201 --> 01:13:59.368
PEOPLE.
01:13:59.434 --> 01:14:01.170
THAT.
01:14:01.236 --> 01:14:03.338
PROBABLY SHOULD NEVER COME OUT
01:14:03.405 --> 01:14:04.306
BE BACK ON THE STREETS AGAIN AND
01:14:04.373 --> 01:14:05.641
I I BELIEVE YOU'RE SENSITIVE TO
01:14:05.707 --> 01:14:06.875
THAT DISCERN NO.
01:14:06.942 --> 01:14:08.744
NEED THE OPPONENTS ARE VERY
01:14:08.811 --> 01:14:10.045
PASSIONATE ABOUT THAT AND THIS
01:14:10.112 --> 01:14:11.446
IS NOT [inaudible]
01:14:11.513 --> 01:14:15.684
ABOUT -- I
01:14:15.751 --> 01:14:18.353
DON'T GO WHAT USED TO TERMS OF
01:14:18.420 --> 01:14:20.122
BUT IS NOT ABOUT PROVIDING
01:14:20.189 --> 01:14:23.225
DISCOUNT. TO CRIMINALS AND SO AM
01:14:23.292 --> 01:14:25.327
I I BELIEVE THAT IS NOT YOUR
01:14:25.394 --> 01:14:26.662
INTENT WAS NOT TO BEGINNING
01:14:26.728 --> 01:14:27.763
INTENT OR WHATEVER.
01:14:27.830 --> 01:14:30.265
IT WAS TO PROVIDE AN AVENUE FOR
01:14:30.332 --> 01:14:32.067
WHICH ON INDIVIDUALS WILL BE
01:14:32.134 --> 01:14:33.202
ABLE -- TO
01:14:33.268 --> 01:14:34.870
REHABILITATE THEMSELVES INSTEAD
01:14:34.937 --> 01:14:36.371
OF JUST SITTING AND IMPRISONED
01:14:36.438 --> 01:14:38.073
FOR VERY LONG TERM.
01:14:38.140 --> 01:14:41.510
AND OF THAT I KNOW YOU ARE ALSO.
01:14:41.577 --> 01:14:43.712
VERY SENSITIVE TO WHAT THE LA
01:14:43.779 --> 01:14:45.414
DEAYTON THE DJS ARE ARE
01:14:45.480 --> 01:14:46.815
CONCERNED ABOUT SALUTE THAT
01:14:46.882 --> 01:14:47.115
[inaudible]
01:14:47.182 --> 01:14:49.017
CULTURAL.
01:14:49.084 --> 01:14:50.786
ON S. B. TWELVE SEVENTY NINE THE
01:14:50.853 --> 01:14:51.453
MOTION IS TO PASS TO THE
01:14:51.520 --> 01:14:53.322
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE JONES
01:14:53.388 --> 01:14:54.556
SAWYER AYE AYE JONES SAWYER AYE
01:14:54.623 --> 01:14:55.858
LACKEY.
01:14:55.924 --> 01:14:57.526
LACKEY NOCAUTEADO.
01:14:57.593 --> 01:14:59.328
KAMLAGER-DOVE I KAMLAGER-DOVE I
01:14:59.394 --> 01:15:00.495
KILEY [inaudible]
01:15:00.562 --> 01:15:02.798
QUIRK.
01:15:02.865 --> 01:15:05.267
QUIRK AYE SANTIAGO.
01:15:05.334 --> 01:15:06.768
THE MEASURES ON CALL THANK YOU
01:15:06.835 --> 01:15:07.603
MISTER MEMBERS THANK YOU DECK
01:15:07.669 --> 01:15:09.104
YOU [inaudible]
01:15:09.171 --> 01:15:14.509
FOR THE TESTIMONY.
01:15:14.576 --> 01:15:17.646
NOW WE HAVE MR WILK [inaudible]
01:15:17.713 --> 01:15:21.617
S. B..
01:15:21.683 --> 01:15:23.085
TWELVE TWENTY FOUR AND S. B.
01:15:23.151 --> 01:15:24.253
FOURTEEN ALL NINE ITEMS
01:15:24.319 --> 01:15:24.553
[inaudible]
01:15:24.620 --> 01:15:28.390
AND SEVEN MY BELIEF AND
01:15:28.457 --> 01:15:29.024
SEVENTEEN AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE
01:15:29.091 --> 01:15:31.960
ONE ON CONSENT.
01:15:32.027 --> 01:15:34.930
WHY DO WE LET SO MANY OUT?
01:15:34.997 --> 01:15:38.500
NO MY NOT SO WE KNOW GOOD. TEN
01:15:38.567 --> 01:15:39.134
TWENTY FOUR TWO TWENTY FOUR OKAY
01:15:39.201 --> 01:15:40.369
FORTINO NINE AND THOSE WHO WAS A
01:15:40.435 --> 01:15:42.437
PRESENTING ON YES OKAY GREAT.
01:15:42.504 --> 01:15:44.773
FOR THE SAKE I'VE I MISPRONOUNCE
01:15:44.840 --> 01:15:50.746
BUT DOES THE TEN TWENTY FOUR
01:15:50.812 --> 01:15:51.380
WELL THANK YOU MISTER JUROR THE
01:15:51.446 --> 01:15:56.818
BELL.
01:15:56.885 --> 01:15:57.486
YOU KNOW THAT MEANS MISTER WELL
01:15:57.552 --> 01:15:58.820
I DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS.
01:15:58.887 --> 01:16:00.188
AND SO WITH THAT I JUST WOULD
01:16:00.255 --> 01:16:01.290
LIKE TO SAY.
01:16:01.356 --> 01:16:02.491
CLEARLY THE STUDIES HAVE SHOWN
01:16:02.557 --> 01:16:04.126
THAT THERE'S A LINK BETWEEN
01:16:04.192 --> 01:16:06.161
EARLY ANIMAL ABUSE AND AND
01:16:06.228 --> 01:16:08.230
VIOLENCE AGAINST PEOPLE AT A
01:16:08.297 --> 01:16:11.066
LATER DATE. 90% A MASS SHOOTER
01:16:11.133 --> 01:16:13.368
71% OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE --
01:16:13.435 --> 01:16:16.571
OFFENDERS AND ALMOST 50% OF A
01:16:16.638 --> 01:16:17.973
RAPIST I AM --
01:16:18.040 --> 01:16:19.841
I WANNA THINK THE CHAIR AND THE
01:16:19.908 --> 01:16:20.709
COMMITTEE STAFF FOR ALL THEIR
01:16:20.776 --> 01:16:22.411
WORK ON AND TAKING ALL THE
01:16:22.477 --> 01:16:23.245
MANAGE RECOMMENDED BY THE
01:16:23.312 --> 01:16:23.912
COMMITTEE.
01:16:23.979 --> 01:16:27.349
RELATING TO THE EDUCATION SO
01:16:27.416 --> 01:16:28.350
WITH THAT ASK FOR AN AYE VOTE.
01:16:28.417 --> 01:16:31.486
THANK YOU.
01:16:31.553 --> 01:16:32.921
YOU HAVE A FIRST AND SO ARE
01:16:32.988 --> 01:16:35.624
THERE ANY WITNESSES IN SUPPORT
01:16:35.691 --> 01:16:35.924
[inaudible]
01:16:35.991 --> 01:16:39.561
WE DID [inaudible]
01:16:39.628 --> 01:16:41.630
NICHOLAS SACKETT.
01:16:41.697 --> 01:16:42.831
SOCIAL COMPASSION LEGISLATION IN
01:16:42.898 --> 01:16:44.399
SUPPORT.
01:16:44.466 --> 01:16:45.801
THANK YOU PENNY WITNESSES IN
01:16:45.867 --> 01:16:48.570
OPPOSITION.
01:16:48.637 --> 01:16:50.172
ANY QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE
01:16:50.238 --> 01:16:51.573
MEMBERS HOPE OUT THERE YOU
01:16:51.640 --> 01:16:53.141
RETIREMENT I'M SORRY ON BEHALF
01:16:53.208 --> 01:16:54.609
THE CHIEF PROBATION OFFICERS
01:16:54.676 --> 01:16:55.744
CALIFORNIA WEAPON OPPOSE UNLESS
01:16:55.811 --> 01:16:57.112
AMENDED POSITION --
01:16:57.179 --> 01:16:58.780
WE APPRECIATE THE AUTHOR
01:16:58.847 --> 01:16:59.381
BELIEVED THAT THE AMENDMENTS
01:16:59.448 --> 01:17:01.083
WILL ROUTE REMOVE OUR OPPOSITION
01:17:01.149 --> 01:17:02.951
WILL REVIEW THOSE AND CONTINUE
01:17:03.018 --> 01:17:03.552
WORKING WITH THE AUTHOR THANK
01:17:03.618 --> 01:17:03.919
YOU [inaudible]
01:17:03.986 --> 01:17:05.754
THANK YOU.
01:17:05.821 --> 01:17:07.322
OTHER ANY WITNESSES IN
01:17:07.389 --> 01:17:08.757
OPPOSITION AND QUESTIONS FROM
01:17:08.824 --> 01:17:12.361
COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
01:17:12.427 --> 01:17:15.097
YOU MAY CLOSE.
01:17:15.163 --> 01:17:15.697
I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN AYE
01:17:15.764 --> 01:17:17.332
VOTE.
01:17:17.399 --> 01:17:19.167
BUT CHAIRS RECOMMEND I CALL THE
01:17:19.234 --> 01:17:20.902
ROLL SB TEND TO BE FOR THE
01:17:20.969 --> 01:17:22.537
MOTION IS TO PASS AS AMENDED TO
01:17:22.604 --> 01:17:23.905
THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE
01:17:23.972 --> 01:17:25.307
JONES SAWYER AYE JONES SAWYER
01:17:25.374 --> 01:17:26.708
AYE LACKEY.
01:17:26.775 --> 01:17:28.410
AYE AYE LACKEY AYE CARILLO
01:17:28.477 --> 01:17:28.710
[inaudible]
01:17:28.777 --> 01:17:30.445
KAMLAGER-DOVE.
01:17:30.512 --> 01:17:32.814
I KAMLAGER-DOVE I KILEY
01:17:32.881 --> 01:17:33.115
[inaudible]
01:17:33.181 --> 01:17:35.083
QUIRK.
01:17:35.150 --> 01:17:37.019
QUIRK AYE SANTIAGO.
01:17:37.085 --> 01:17:38.920
THAT MEASURE PASSES [inaudible]
01:17:38.987 --> 01:17:41.256
NOW.
01:17:41.323 --> 01:17:42.958
THE SECOND BILL.
01:17:43.025 --> 01:17:46.294
PORTANTINO NINE ITEM NUMBER.
01:17:46.361 --> 01:17:46.895
SEVENTY THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR
01:17:46.962 --> 01:17:48.463
AND MEMBERS.
01:17:48.530 --> 01:17:50.532
SENATE BILL FOURTEEN OH NINE
01:17:50.599 --> 01:17:51.099
WILL UPDATE CURRENT LAW TO
01:17:51.166 --> 01:17:52.067
STREAMLINE THE PRODUCTION
01:17:52.134 --> 01:17:53.802
CULTIVATION OF INDUSTRIAL HAPPEN
01:17:53.869 --> 01:17:55.070
CALIFORNIA.
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WITH OVER THIRTY OTHER NATIONS
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IN NINETEEN STATES IN THE U. S.
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GROWING INDUSTRIAL HEMP.
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AND CALIFORNIA REPRESENT THE
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LARGEST CONSUMER AND INDUSTRIAL
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MARKET FOR HIM MATERIALS AND
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PRODUCTS IN THE U. S..
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CALIFORNIA IS IN A POSITION IS
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WELL POSITIONED TAKE ADVANTAGE
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OF THIS GREAT OPPORTUNITY --
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ON TOP OF THE MANY MINOR USES OF
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INDUSTRIAL HEMP THE BENEFITS FOR
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FARMERS ARE NOT ONLY FINANCIAL
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BUT ALSO PRACTICAL.
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CALIFORNIA'S NO STRANGER TO
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DROUGHT LIKE CONDITIONS AND
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INDUSTRIAL HEMP HAS THE
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POTENTIAL TO PROVIDE IMMENSE
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VALUE TO FARMERS AS IT REQUIRES
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FAR LESS WATER THAN MOST CROPS.
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REQUIRES LITTLE TO NO PESTICIDES
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AND ACTUALLY READ GENERATES THE
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SOIL.
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INDUSTRIAL HEMP REQUIRES.
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I DID ALL THAT SOMEONE SKIP ON
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THAT THE ECONOMIC BENEFITS OF
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INDUSTRIAL HEMP IS A NATURAL FIT
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FOR CALIFORNIANS ARID CLIMATE.
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AT ONE POINT WE WERE THE
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ACTUALLY THE LEADER WHEN WE
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ENACTED SP FIVE SIXTY SIX BY
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SENATOR LENO WHICH ESTABLISH AN
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INDUSTRIAL HEMP FARMING PROGRAM.
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BUT AND FORCEFULLY PROPOSITION
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SIXTY FOUR CONTAIN PROVISIONS
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THAT LARGELY AND DID MUCH OF THE
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PROGRESS BY LOPPING INDUSTRIAL
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HEMP -- THE
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AGRICULTURE COMMODITY WITH THE
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INTOXICATING RELATIVE --
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RELATIVE A CANNABIS ALSO SINCE
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THEN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAD
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UPDATED THE THAT THE FARM ACT.
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SOURCE BEFORE TO KNOW NINE WILL
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ONCE AGAIN PUT CALIFORNIA AT THE
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LEADING EDGE OF INDUSTRIAL HEMP
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PRODUCTION IN PROVIDE OUR
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FARMERS A WATER SAVING
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ALTERNATIVE TO CROPS LIKE CORN
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AND ALFALFA.
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YES BE FORTINO NINE IS RECEIVED
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BIPARTISAN SUPPORT WITH THAT I
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RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR NIGHT VOICE
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VOTE JOINING ME THIS MORNING IS
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I EIGHTY PER NAQI REPRESENTING
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VOTE HIM.
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AND CHRIS WILSON WITH --
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HIGH ENERGETICS.
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THANK YOU MAY BEGIN FIVE AND
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MORNING GOOD MORNING MISTER
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CHAIRMAN MEMBERS ANY BERNACCHI
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ON BEHALF OF VOTE HELP --
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AS USUAL SOONER WILK HAS DONE AN
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EXCELLENT JOB OF OUTLINING --
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THE NEED --
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FOR LEGISLATION IN THIS AREA AND
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THE BENEFITS OF THIS PRODUCT FOR
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THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
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I LIKE INFLOWS SIMPLY THAT THIS
01:19:48.850 --> 01:19:50.452
BILL [inaudible]
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CLIENTS WITH PROP.
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SIXTY FOUR AND IT SIMPLY ADDS
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PILOT PROGRAM STATUS. TWO CDFA
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THIS REGISTRATION PROGRAM SO
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THAT THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA'S
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FARM BILL COMPLY.
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BOTH OF THESE ITEMS ARE NEEDED --
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TO ALLOW CALIFORNIA FARMERS TO
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BEGIN A GROWING UP AND
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PARTICIPATING IN WHAT IS OR WHAT
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IS VASTLY GROWING OVER BUT IS
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CURRENTLY A SIX HUNDRED EIGHTY
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MILLION DOLLAR.
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INDUSTRY --
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IMAGES BECAUSE I THINK YOU KNOW
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THERE'S NINETEEN OTHER STATES AS
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PREVIOUSLY STATED --
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WHO HAVE?
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GOTTEN A HEAD START ON
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CALIFORNIA.
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IN THE PRODUCTION CULTIVATION OF
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INDUSTRIAL HEMP CALIFORNIA IS
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THE AGRICULTURE.
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CAPITAL OF THE WORLD.
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AND WE SERIOUSLY AND AND BRING
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POORLY NEED THIS BILL TO BE
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PASSED -- TO
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ENSURE THAT.
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WE CAN CLOSE THAT GAP SO FOR
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THOSE REASONS WE WOULD URGE
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DRIVE UP THANK YOU [inaudible]
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THANK YOU [inaudible]
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JEFF.
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MORNING CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE
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COMMITTEE.
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MY NAME IS CHRIS WILSON I'M HERE
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ON BEHALF OF OHIO ENERGETICS --
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ó HIGH ENERGETIC THE HEMP
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TECHNOLOGY COMPANY BASE OF
01:20:51.513 --> 01:20:52.681
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA BUT
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CURRENTLY WE ARE FORCED OUT OF
01:20:54.516 --> 01:20:55.917
STATE PLACE LIKE WORK IN
01:20:55.984 --> 01:20:57.786
COLORADO TO SOURCE MANUFACTURE
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HEMP PRODUCTS.
01:20:59.421 --> 01:21:00.789
MANY CALIFORNIA COMPANIES LIKE
01:21:00.855 --> 01:21:02.190
OURSELVES ARE UP BRING THE
01:21:02.257 --> 01:21:03.658
BUSINESS IS MOVING OUT OF STATE
01:21:03.725 --> 01:21:05.727
TO BE CLOSER TO HAVE CULTIVATION.
01:21:05.794 --> 01:21:06.561
WITH CALIFORNIA BEING THE
01:21:06.628 --> 01:21:07.629
LARGEST AGRICULTURAL STATE IN
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THE U. S..
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WE SHOULD NOT FAR BEHIND THE
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REST OF THE COUNTRY IN EMERGING
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HAVE BEEN HISTORY.
01:21:13.001 --> 01:21:14.169
ARE CALIFORNIA FARMERS AND
01:21:14.236 --> 01:21:14.803
BUSINESSES SHOULD BE LEADING THE
01:21:14.869 --> 01:21:16.004
WAY.
01:21:16.071 --> 01:21:16.938
AS OUR HOPE.
01:21:17.005 --> 01:21:19.107
HAVE THE ABILITY TO VERTICAL AS
01:21:19.174 --> 01:21:19.708
OUR BUSINESS HERE IN OUR HOME
01:21:19.774 --> 01:21:20.642
STATE.
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AND FOR THESE REASONS WE
01:21:21.610 --> 01:21:23.345
STRONGLY SUPPORT THE PAST BEST
01:21:23.411 --> 01:21:23.878
BEFORE TWO NINE THANK YOU
01:21:23.945 --> 01:21:24.179
[inaudible]
01:21:24.246 --> 01:21:26.081
THANK YOU.
01:21:26.147 --> 01:21:26.715
ARE THERE ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
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SUPPORT.
01:21:28.350 --> 01:21:30.819
A WITNESS IS NOT POSITION.
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ANY QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE
01:21:31.453 --> 01:21:35.023
MEMBERS THE COURT --
01:21:35.090 --> 01:21:36.024
SENATOR WELL.
01:21:36.091 --> 01:21:37.626
HOW COME YOU HAVE SO MANY GOOD
01:21:37.692 --> 01:21:40.795
BUILDS UP THIS YEAR?
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I HAVE GROWN IN OFFICE.
01:21:42.230 --> 01:21:43.565
I MOVE THE BILL [inaudible]
01:21:43.632 --> 01:21:46.268
SECOND.
01:21:46.334 --> 01:21:48.203
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
01:21:48.270 --> 01:21:49.638
WELL I JUST WANTED TO KNOW HOW
01:21:49.704 --> 01:21:50.972
LARGE IS YOUR INDUSTRY HERE IN
01:21:51.039 --> 01:21:53.808
CALIFORNIA.
01:21:53.875 --> 01:21:55.310
WELL FROM WHAT STANDPOINT THEM
01:21:55.377 --> 01:21:56.745
FROM THE FOR HOW MANY THE FROM
01:21:56.811 --> 01:21:58.346
CULTIVATIONS TEN POINT --
01:21:58.413 --> 01:22:00.548
UNTIL THIS BILL PASSED --
01:22:00.615 --> 01:22:01.716
THE STATE CALIFORNIA THE CDF
01:22:01.783 --> 01:22:02.917
FACED BY THE PROGRAM WILL NOT BE
01:22:02.984 --> 01:22:04.252
FORMAL COMPLAINTS THERE IS NO
01:22:04.319 --> 01:22:06.488
INTERTROPICAL DIVISIONS GET
01:22:06.554 --> 01:22:07.489
CALIFORNIA OKAY BUT THERE THERE
01:22:07.555 --> 01:22:08.723
ARE MANY FACTORS LIKE GO AYE
01:22:08.790 --> 01:22:10.025
ENERGETICS.
01:22:10.091 --> 01:22:11.760
THAT IMPORT INDUSTRIAL HEMP FROM
01:22:11.826 --> 01:22:13.895
OUT OF STATE. TO MANUFACTURE OR
01:22:13.962 --> 01:22:15.063
THEY HAVE TO GO OUT OF STATE TO
01:22:15.130 --> 01:22:17.032
MANUFACTURE WHERE THEY'RE CLOSER
01:22:17.098 --> 01:22:18.400
TO THE ACTUAL CULTIVATION.
01:22:18.466 --> 01:22:20.035
UP THEIR PRODUCTS IN THEIR
01:22:20.101 --> 01:22:22.871
HEADQUARTERS ARE HERE AND ON THE
01:22:22.937 --> 01:22:25.807
NUMBER OF HIM.
01:22:25.874 --> 01:22:26.675
BUSINESSES AND STAY ON A CHRIS
01:22:26.741 --> 01:22:28.009
IF IF YOU HAVE A NUMBER THERE
01:22:28.076 --> 01:22:29.511
BUT IT'S IT'S PROBABLY INTO THE
01:22:29.577 --> 01:22:32.213
FEW HUNDREDS --
01:22:32.280 --> 01:22:32.747
AND I THINK IT COULD GROW
01:22:32.814 --> 01:22:33.548
INCREASINGLY.
01:22:33.615 --> 01:22:34.849
ACTUALLY THIS BILL CAME TO ME
01:22:34.916 --> 01:22:37.285
FROM MY LOCAL LOCAL FARMER SO WE
01:22:37.352 --> 01:22:39.487
JUST FINISHED IN THE ARAB VALLEY --
01:22:39.554 --> 01:22:40.422
SIXTEEN YEARS OF LITIGATION ON
01:22:40.488 --> 01:22:42.190
WATER RIGHTS IN THE BIG LOSERS
01:22:42.257 --> 01:22:43.625
WAS THE AGRICULTURE COMMUNITY
01:22:43.692 --> 01:22:44.726
THEY'RE GETTING THEIR WATER CUT
01:22:44.793 --> 01:22:48.496
BY 44% OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS --
01:22:48.563 --> 01:22:50.665
THE PRIMARY CROP IS ALFALFA
01:22:50.732 --> 01:22:52.867
WHICH REQUIRE SEVEN ACRE FEET OF
01:22:52.934 --> 01:22:53.568
WATER.
01:22:53.635 --> 01:22:55.103
PER ACRE INDUSTRIAL HEMP IS
01:22:55.170 --> 01:22:56.871
UNDER.
01:22:56.938 --> 01:22:58.440
TWO SO --
01:22:58.506 --> 01:23:00.909
LITTLE NO PESTICIDES LESS WATER.
01:23:00.975 --> 01:23:03.945
CROP ACTUALLY PAYS BETTER THAN
01:23:04.012 --> 01:23:06.114
ALFALFA I'VE HAD MANUFACTURERS
01:23:06.181 --> 01:23:08.316
ECONOMY SAID IF IF YOU GET THIS
01:23:08.383 --> 01:23:08.983
BILL PASSED WE WILL COME TO YOUR
01:23:09.050 --> 01:23:09.851
DISTRICT.
01:23:09.918 --> 01:23:11.486
AND SET UP --
01:23:11.553 --> 01:23:12.687
THE OUR MANUFACTURING COMPANIES%
01:23:12.754 --> 01:23:13.788
BECAUSE THAT THEY HAVE WILL BE
01:23:13.855 --> 01:23:15.357
THERE.
01:23:15.423 --> 01:23:17.392
AND TO ALL THE NAYSAYERS OUT
01:23:17.459 --> 01:23:20.061
THERE WHO WOULD THEN SAY WELL MY
01:23:20.128 --> 01:23:21.629
GOD NO ONE ELSE IS GONNA BE
01:23:21.696 --> 01:23:23.431
GROWING CORN OR ALFALFA THEY'RE
01:23:23.498 --> 01:23:24.632
ONLY GOING TO BE GROWING HEMP
01:23:24.699 --> 01:23:26.267
WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO THEM.
01:23:26.334 --> 01:23:27.936
SOMEBODY'S GOING TO GROW IT.
01:23:28.002 --> 01:23:29.137
BUT THE YOU KNOW THE FACT THAT
01:23:29.204 --> 01:23:31.039
THE MATTER IS IS IT'S NOT FOR US
01:23:31.106 --> 01:23:32.707
THAT IS NOT SUSTAINABLE I MEAN
01:23:32.774 --> 01:23:33.375
YOU KNOW.
01:23:33.441 --> 01:23:35.343
WE YOU KNOW AS THE GOVERNOR SAYS
01:23:35.410 --> 01:23:37.278
WE GET THE NEW NORMAL IN TERMS
01:23:37.345 --> 01:23:38.613
OF YOU KNOW CLIMATE CHANGE WHICH
01:23:38.680 --> 01:23:40.448
ARE AIR CLIMATE ANYWAY CLIMATE
01:23:40.515 --> 01:23:42.150
CHANGE WE HAVE WE HAVE TO BE
01:23:42.217 --> 01:23:43.752
SMARTER LIVE GUIDE.
01:23:43.818 --> 01:23:44.986
FARMERS WHO WANT TO REMAIN IN
01:23:45.053 --> 01:23:46.888
THE AGRICULTURAL SECTOR THE ONLY
01:23:46.955 --> 01:23:48.857
WAY THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO
01:23:48.923 --> 01:23:50.158
DO THAT IS IS CONVERT THEIR
01:23:50.225 --> 01:23:52.327
THEIR CROPS THAT THAT FIT.
01:23:52.394 --> 01:23:52.961
THE THE CONDITIONS THAT WE LIVE
01:23:53.027 --> 01:23:56.631
IN AND HEMP IS ONE OF THE BEST
01:23:56.698 --> 01:23:58.166
ROTATIONAL CROPS ACTUALLY HAD
01:23:58.233 --> 01:23:59.300
HOPES TO REMEDIATE THE SOIL IT
01:23:59.367 --> 01:24:00.902
BRINGS NITRATES NUTRIENTS BACK
01:24:00.969 --> 01:24:02.871
IN THE SOIL SO --
01:24:02.937 --> 01:24:03.938
AS A GOOD TAKES ABOUT FOUR
01:24:04.005 --> 01:24:05.407
MONTHS AGO FULL CYCLE YOU
01:24:05.473 --> 01:24:06.508
ACTUALLY CAN CYCLE IN WITH OTHER
01:24:06.574 --> 01:24:08.743
CROPS IN IN GROW BETTER YIELDS
01:24:08.810 --> 01:24:09.844
FROM THAT.
01:24:09.911 --> 01:24:12.814
AND PROBABLY MUSCLES.
01:24:12.881 --> 01:24:14.349
IT'LL IT'LL DEFTLY HELP WITH
01:24:14.416 --> 01:24:15.817
PERFORMERS AND OTHER CROPS.
01:24:15.884 --> 01:24:18.887
OKAY THANK YOU.
01:24:18.953 --> 01:24:20.622
WE SELECTED A YOU KNOW I JUST
01:24:20.688 --> 01:24:22.891
WANNA SAY THANK YOU OBVIOUSLY --
01:24:22.957 --> 01:24:24.659
AS YOU OUTLINED.
01:24:24.726 --> 01:24:27.862
ARE DISTRICTS OVERLAP AND DOES
01:24:27.929 --> 01:24:29.531
THERE IS A GREAT TO FUTURE HERE
01:24:29.597 --> 01:24:30.999
FOR THIS PRODUCT.
01:24:31.065 --> 01:24:32.901
AND IT'S IT'S QUITE EMBARRASSING
01:24:32.967 --> 01:24:33.735
THAT.
01:24:33.802 --> 01:24:35.336
WE HAVE TO LEGISLATION TO ALLOW
01:24:35.403 --> 01:24:36.337
TO MOVE FORWARD BUT VERY
01:24:36.404 --> 01:24:38.039
THANKFUL THAT --
01:24:38.106 --> 01:24:38.940
WERE -- HAVE
01:24:39.007 --> 01:24:41.342
AND WHAT IT TAKES THE VISION IN
01:24:41.409 --> 01:24:43.044
THE DISCUSSION. TO OF MATURE
01:24:43.111 --> 01:24:45.013
EARLIER DRESS THIS ISSUE AND
01:24:45.079 --> 01:24:47.081
ALLOW THIS PRODUCT. TO TO A MOVE
01:24:47.148 --> 01:24:48.583
FORWARD ALLOW.
01:24:48.650 --> 01:24:49.417
THE PUBLIC TO BENEFIT FROM THIS
01:24:49.484 --> 01:24:51.286
THE SCRIPTWRITER ACT.
01:24:51.352 --> 01:24:52.754
THANK YOU OF WE HAVE A LATE
01:24:52.821 --> 01:24:56.090
BREAKING COMMENT.
01:24:56.157 --> 01:24:57.625
IT IS JASON DRIVE OF THE OF THE
01:24:57.692 --> 01:24:59.194
CALIFORNIA GROWERS ASSOCIATION
01:24:59.260 --> 01:25:00.261
IN SUPPORT OF BILL.
01:25:00.328 --> 01:25:01.663
A IMPORTANT LOCAL CONTROL
01:25:01.729 --> 01:25:03.398
PROVISIONS TO PROTECT NOT ONLY
01:25:03.465 --> 01:25:04.766
HEMP CULTIVATION BUT ALSO
01:25:04.833 --> 01:25:06.367
CANNABIS CULTIVATION TO ENSURE
01:25:06.434 --> 01:25:08.002
THE CROSS POLLINATION ISSUES ON
01:25:08.069 --> 01:25:08.770
EXIST.
01:25:08.837 --> 01:25:10.472
HAVE SO WE'RE VERY THANKFUL OF
01:25:10.538 --> 01:25:11.506
THOSE AMENDMENTS INSUPPORTABLE
01:25:11.573 --> 01:25:12.574
THANK YOU THANK YOU.
01:25:12.640 --> 01:25:15.443
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
01:25:15.510 --> 01:25:16.211
SO MISTER WILL CALL LONGER YOU
01:25:16.277 --> 01:25:19.047
BEEN IN TO HELP.
01:25:19.113 --> 01:25:20.448
NO NOT NOT SO MIGHT NOT TO MY
01:25:20.515 --> 01:25:21.749
FARMERS PRIDE BUT FOR MY CLOTHES
01:25:21.816 --> 01:25:24.919
NATION.
01:25:24.986 --> 01:25:27.222
YOU KNOW FACT MATTER IS THAT HIM
01:25:27.288 --> 01:25:28.756
IS IS AMERICA AS IT IS AS
01:25:28.823 --> 01:25:31.526
AMERICAN AS HOT DOGS APPLE PIE
01:25:31.593 --> 01:25:33.361
IN BASEBALL.
01:25:33.428 --> 01:25:35.763
BETSY ROSS WHEN SHE'S SO HARD
01:25:35.830 --> 01:25:36.731
THE FIRST AMERICAN FLAG WAS OUT
01:25:36.798 --> 01:25:38.366
AT HIM.
01:25:38.433 --> 01:25:40.335
WHEN THOMAS JEFFERSON DRAFTED
01:25:40.401 --> 01:25:42.170
THE DECLARATION INDEPENDENCE IT
01:25:42.237 --> 01:25:44.138
WAS ON HEMP PAPER VOTE SO HIT IS
01:25:44.205 --> 01:25:46.241
AMERICA WHAT THIS BILL DOES IS
01:25:46.307 --> 01:25:48.743
BRING AMERICA BACK TO ITS FUTURE
01:25:48.810 --> 01:25:50.778
WHICH IS HIP?
01:25:50.845 --> 01:25:54.249
SO WITH THAT ASPIRIN AYE VOTE OR
01:25:54.315 --> 01:26:00.255
I TAKE THAT AS YOUR CLOSING THAT --
01:26:00.321 --> 01:26:03.358
NICOLA ROLE.
01:26:03.424 --> 01:26:04.526
BUT ON AS THE FORTUNATE NINE THE
01:26:04.592 --> 01:26:05.059
MOTION IS TO PASS TO THE
01:26:05.126 --> 01:26:06.361
AGRICULTURE COMMITTEE JONES
01:26:06.427 --> 01:26:09.297
SAWYER OPTIONS ARE AYE LACKEY.
01:26:09.364 --> 01:26:10.331
LACKEY AYE CARDIO [inaudible]
01:26:10.398 --> 01:26:11.866
KAMLAGER-DOVE.
01:26:11.933 --> 01:26:14.168
APPLE PIE I KAMLAGER-DOVE I
01:26:14.235 --> 01:26:15.370
KILEY [inaudible]
01:26:15.436 --> 01:26:17.438
QUIRK.
01:26:17.505 --> 01:26:19.607
QUIRK AYE SANTIAGO.
01:26:19.674 --> 01:26:22.076
THE MEASURE PASSES GRADUALLY
01:26:22.143 --> 01:26:27.348
THANK YOU CHAIRMAN MEMBERS.
01:26:27.415 --> 01:26:30.184
NEXT WE HAVE SENATOR PELL.
01:26:30.251 --> 01:26:32.353
S. B. ELEVEN EIGHTY SEVEN ITEM
01:26:32.420 --> 01:26:37.926
NUMBER.
01:26:37.992 --> 01:26:38.660
ELEVEN MISTER CHAIRMAN I WAS
01:26:38.726 --> 01:26:40.461
READING RECENTLY A BOOK ABOUT
01:26:40.528 --> 01:26:42.096
GEORGE WASHINGTON.
01:26:42.163 --> 01:26:43.431
I JUST WANT TO DISCLOSE THAT HE
01:26:43.498 --> 01:26:48.236
GREW AND ALSO.
01:26:48.303 --> 01:26:52.874
INTERESTING READING ABOUT HIM --
01:26:52.941 --> 01:26:55.610
OKAY MISTER CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS --
01:26:55.677 --> 01:26:56.578
TODAY I'M PRESENTING --
01:26:56.644 --> 01:27:00.882
THIS BILL --
01:27:00.949 --> 01:27:01.482
EIGHT ELEVEN EIGHTY SEVEN THIS
01:27:01.549 --> 01:27:03.084
IS A BILL THE ELIM LIMITS THE
01:27:03.151 --> 01:27:04.552
INVOLUNTARY.
01:27:04.619 --> 01:27:07.155
PRE TRIAL COMPLETE CONFINEMENT
01:27:07.221 --> 01:27:10.191
OF A PERSON SOLELY BASED ON HIS
01:27:10.258 --> 01:27:12.060
OR HER MENTAL INCAPACITY TO
01:27:12.126 --> 01:27:15.229
STAND TRIAL. FOR WHAT NO LONGER
01:27:15.296 --> 01:27:17.532
THAN TWO YEARS.
01:27:17.599 --> 01:27:19.834
CURRENTLY THREE YEARS WE'RE
01:27:19.901 --> 01:27:20.935
GOING FROM THREE YEARS TO TWO
01:27:21.002 --> 01:27:23.438
YEARS -- HIT
01:27:23.504 --> 01:27:25.373
UPDATES ARCHAIC STANDARDS AND
01:27:25.440 --> 01:27:26.474
DEFINITIONS WITHIN THE EXISTING
01:27:26.541 --> 01:27:28.042
LAW.
01:27:28.109 --> 01:27:30.311
NOW BY SHORTENING THE MAXIMUM
01:27:30.378 --> 01:27:32.580
COMMITMENT PERIOD FOR FROM THREE
01:27:32.647 --> 01:27:33.681
YEARS.
01:27:33.748 --> 01:27:34.849
THE BILL INCREASES THE VEIL
01:27:34.916 --> 01:27:36.317
ABILITY OF PLACEMENTS AND
01:27:36.384 --> 01:27:37.919
RESIDENTIAL TREATMENT.
01:27:37.986 --> 01:27:40.421
HOSPITALS DEVELOPMENTAL CENTERS
01:27:40.488 --> 01:27:41.356
FOR THE TREATMENT AND TO REMOVE
01:27:41.422 --> 01:27:42.390
THE BALLOT.
01:27:42.457 --> 01:27:47.462
INCOMPETENCE STAND TRIAL.
01:27:47.528 --> 01:27:48.463
SPIDERMAN --
01:27:48.529 --> 01:27:51.599
I'LL BE BRIEF AND IN.
01:27:51.666 --> 01:27:52.934
THE IN ADDITION IT'S BUT IT'S
01:27:53.001 --> 01:27:54.068
IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT --
01:27:54.135 --> 01:27:55.737
THE BILL WILL SAVE MONEY.
01:27:55.803 --> 01:27:57.338
SHORTER STAYS --
01:27:57.405 --> 01:27:59.140
AND OUR STATE HOSPITALS DO KNOW
01:27:59.207 --> 01:28:01.009
THAT WE ADDED A HUNDRED MILLION
01:28:01.075 --> 01:28:02.877
DOLLARS TO THE STATE HOSPITAL IN
01:28:02.944 --> 01:28:03.945
THE BUDGET.
01:28:04.012 --> 01:28:05.980
JUST TO HANDLE INCOMPETENT TO
01:28:06.047 --> 01:28:08.182
STAND TRIAL IT WAS BECAUSE THEY
01:28:08.249 --> 01:28:09.651
WERE SO OVERCROWDED.
01:28:09.717 --> 01:28:11.285
WITH THESE INCOMPETENT STAND
01:28:11.352 --> 01:28:13.388
TRIALS THAT WE HAD TO ADD ALL
01:28:13.454 --> 01:28:15.857
THIS MONEY SO THAT COUNTIES.
01:28:15.923 --> 01:28:18.026
COULD FIND PLACES AND GREAT
01:28:18.092 --> 01:28:20.528
PLACES FOR PEOPLE THAT WERE
01:28:20.595 --> 01:28:22.030
INCOMPETENT TO STAND TRIAL.
01:28:22.096 --> 01:28:24.699
SO THIS IS A COST SAVER IF WE
01:28:24.766 --> 01:28:27.602
APPROVE THIS BILL AND I'LL TURN
01:28:27.669 --> 01:28:28.269
OVER TO MY WITNESSES MISTER TURN.
01:28:28.336 --> 01:28:30.138
THANK YOU.
01:28:30.204 --> 01:28:30.772
THANK YOU GOOD MORNING MISTER
01:28:30.838 --> 01:28:32.373
CHAIR AND HONORABLE MEMBERS OF
01:28:32.440 --> 01:28:34.308
THE COMMITTEE MY NAME IS LAURA
01:28:34.375 --> 01:28:35.476
AND MY NAME IS LAURA ARNOLD I'VE
01:28:35.543 --> 01:28:36.778
BEEN A PUBLIC DEFENDER FROM MORE
01:28:36.844 --> 01:28:38.212
THAN TWENTY YEARS.
01:28:38.279 --> 01:28:39.080
I CHAIR THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC
01:28:39.147 --> 01:28:40.815
DEFENDERS MENTAL HEALTH AND
01:28:40.882 --> 01:28:42.216
CIVIL COMMITMENT COMMITTEE AND
01:28:42.283 --> 01:28:43.685
ON BEHALF OF C. PDA AND PUBLIC
01:28:43.751 --> 01:28:44.686
DEFENDER FROM ALL OVER
01:28:44.752 --> 01:28:45.787
CALIFORNIA.
01:28:45.853 --> 01:28:47.188
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK SENATOR
01:28:47.255 --> 01:28:48.823
BALLOT HIS STAFF FROM WORKING
01:28:48.890 --> 01:28:50.258
WITH US ON THIS BILL AND I WOULD
01:28:50.324 --> 01:28:53.528
URGE YOU TO VOTE I'ANSON ABOUT.
01:28:53.594 --> 01:28:54.162
ELEVEN EIGHTY SEVEN THERE'S NO
01:28:54.228 --> 01:28:54.929
QUESTION THAT THE TREATMENT OF
01:28:54.996 --> 01:28:56.097
MEDS ON ITS HAS CHANGED
01:28:56.164 --> 01:28:58.032
DRAMATICALLY OVER THE PAST FORTY
01:28:58.099 --> 01:28:59.967
FOUR YEARS IF YOU THINK ABOUT A
01:29:00.034 --> 01:29:00.735
HALF CENTURY AGO THEY WERE USING
01:29:00.802 --> 01:29:02.904
STE SHOCK TREATMENTS RIGHT.
01:29:02.970 --> 01:29:04.572
BUT NOW MEDICATION TREATMENT HAS
01:29:04.639 --> 01:29:05.973
REALLY INVOLVED AND WE'VE
01:29:06.040 --> 01:29:07.542
REALIZED THAT WITH EFFECTIVE
01:29:07.608 --> 01:29:08.976
MEDICATION TREATMENT PEOPLE CAN
01:29:09.043 --> 01:29:10.344
BE RESTORED TO COMPETENCY MUCH
01:29:10.411 --> 01:29:11.546
MORE QUICKLY.
01:29:11.612 --> 01:29:12.547
THAN ANYBODY EVER WOULD HAVE
01:29:12.613 --> 01:29:14.916
IMAGINED HAVE SIGNED YOUR LIMIT
01:29:14.982 --> 01:29:16.784
WAS SELECTED --
01:29:16.851 --> 01:29:17.952
COMPETENCY COMMITMENTS ARE
01:29:18.019 --> 01:29:19.387
DESIGNED TO BE SHORT TERM
01:29:19.454 --> 01:29:20.888
THEY'RE THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE NOT
01:29:20.955 --> 01:29:22.223
REALLY MEANT TO BE ALTERNATIVE
01:29:22.290 --> 01:29:23.624
SENTENCING SCHEME.
01:29:23.691 --> 01:29:25.193
THEY'RE DESIGNED TO TAYLOR ACUTE
01:29:25.259 --> 01:29:26.627
MENTAL ILLNESS WHICH IMPAIR A
01:29:26.694 --> 01:29:27.929
CRIMINAL DEFENDANT TO SUCH A
01:29:27.995 --> 01:29:29.597
DEGREE THAT HE CAN'T UNDERSTAND
01:29:29.664 --> 01:29:32.333
WHAT'S GOING ON CAN ENTER A PLEA
01:29:32.400 --> 01:29:33.367
CAN'T VIOLENT.
01:29:33.434 --> 01:29:35.470
AGO I'M WITH THE MOTION HE CAN'T
01:29:35.536 --> 01:29:36.838
GO TO TRIAL.
01:29:36.904 --> 01:29:38.706
ON THOSE WHO ARE NOT RENDER
01:29:38.773 --> 01:29:40.408
COMPETENT WITHIN THE MOST PEOPLE
01:29:40.475 --> 01:29:42.143
WHO ARE INCOMPETENT ARE RESTORED
01:29:42.210 --> 01:29:43.978
CONSTANCY WITHIN SIX MONTHS.
01:29:44.045 --> 01:29:45.113
THOSE WHO ARE RESTORED WITHIN A
01:29:45.179 --> 01:29:47.815
YEAR LIKELY NEVER WILL BE.
01:29:47.882 --> 01:29:49.717
AS THIS GROUP KNOWS THERE'S A
01:29:49.784 --> 01:29:51.052
LIMITED NUMBER OF TREATMENT BEDS
01:29:51.119 --> 01:29:52.620
AVAILABLE AND THE MOST EXPENSIVE
01:29:52.687 --> 01:29:54.055
ONES IN THE STATE ARE IN THE
01:29:54.122 --> 01:29:55.089
STATE HOSPITAL THERE IN HIGH
01:29:55.156 --> 01:29:57.158
DEMAND.
01:29:57.225 --> 01:29:59.127
RIGHT NOW THE WEIGHT OF THE WAIT
01:29:59.193 --> 01:30:00.628
LIST FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE WAITING
01:30:00.695 --> 01:30:01.162
TO WHO ARE SITTING IN JAIL
01:30:01.229 --> 01:30:02.263
WAITING TO GET INTO STATE
01:30:02.330 --> 01:30:03.765
HOSPITALS AS MORE THAN A
01:30:03.831 --> 01:30:04.799
THOUSAND PEOPLE.
01:30:04.866 --> 01:30:06.033
IT'S TAKING UP TO SIX MONTHS IN
01:30:06.100 --> 01:30:08.469
LOS ANGELES FOR PEOPLE TO GET
01:30:08.536 --> 01:30:10.004
PLACED IN A TREATMENT FACILITY.
01:30:10.071 --> 01:30:11.806
AND AS WE ALL KNOW JAIL IS THE
01:30:11.873 --> 01:30:13.374
WORST POSSIBLE ENVIRONMENT FOR A
01:30:13.441 --> 01:30:15.510
PERSON SUFFERING FROM SEVERE AND
01:30:15.576 --> 01:30:17.044
ACUTE MENTAL ILLNESS.
01:30:17.111 --> 01:30:19.046
AND BY SHORTENING THE MAXIM
01:30:19.113 --> 01:30:20.515
COMMITMENT AS THE ELEVEN EIGHTY
01:30:20.581 --> 01:30:21.015
SEVEN WILL INCREASE THE
01:30:21.082 --> 01:30:22.550
AVAILABILITY OF PLACEMENTS IN
01:30:22.617 --> 01:30:24.385
RESIDENTIAL FACILITIES HOSPITALS
01:30:24.452 --> 01:30:25.853
AND DEVELOPMENT CENTERS.
01:30:25.920 --> 01:30:27.088
WILL ACCELERATE THE PLACEMENT
01:30:27.155 --> 01:30:28.656
AND TREATMENT OF INCOMPETENT
01:30:28.723 --> 01:30:30.358
DEFENDANTS AND WILL SAVE THE
01:30:30.424 --> 01:30:31.793
TAXPAYERS MONEY.
01:30:31.859 --> 01:30:32.627
IN LINE WITH IMPORTANT
01:30:32.693 --> 01:30:34.262
CONSTITUTIONAL SPEEDY TRIAL
01:30:34.328 --> 01:30:36.464
RIGHTS OF DEFENDANTS AND VICTIMS
01:30:36.531 --> 01:30:37.932
TREATMENT WILL BEGIN SOONER
01:30:37.999 --> 01:30:39.534
COMPETENCY RESTORATION WILL
01:30:39.600 --> 01:30:41.302
OCCUR MORE QUICKLY AND CRIMINAL
01:30:41.369 --> 01:30:43.437
PROCEEDINGS CAN BE REINSTATED IN
01:30:43.504 --> 01:30:45.239
CASES CAN BE ADJUDICATED. FOR
01:30:45.306 --> 01:30:47.141
THOSE REASONS I URGE YOUR VOTE
01:30:47.208 --> 01:30:49.844
FOR AYE VOTE IN FAVOR OF SB
01:30:49.911 --> 01:30:50.444
ELEVEN EIGHTY SEVEN THING BANG
01:30:50.511 --> 01:30:52.446
THANK YOU.
01:30:52.513 --> 01:30:53.748
GOOD MORNING MISTER CHAIR AND
01:30:53.815 --> 01:30:55.550
MEMBERS SHARON RILEY ON BEHALF
01:30:55.616 --> 01:30:57.385
OF THE JUDICIAL COUNCIL.
01:30:57.451 --> 01:30:58.519
THE JUDICIAL COUNCIL IS PLEASED
01:30:58.586 --> 01:31:00.354
TO SUPPORT SB ELEVEN EIGHTY
01:31:00.421 --> 01:31:01.489
SEVEN AND THINKS THE SENATOR AND
01:31:01.556 --> 01:31:02.757
HIS STAFF FOR WORKING.
01:31:02.824 --> 01:31:03.524
WITH THE COUNCIL ON THIS
01:31:03.591 --> 01:31:06.494
IMPORTANT ISSUE COMMITTEE WELL
01:31:06.561 --> 01:31:08.162
KNOWS AND AND WE'VE ALREADY
01:31:08.229 --> 01:31:09.897
HEARD INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE
01:31:09.964 --> 01:31:11.999
INCOMPETENT TO STAND TRIAL OR
01:31:12.066 --> 01:31:13.201
AMONG THE MOST VULNERABLE
01:31:13.267 --> 01:31:14.468
POPULATIONS.
01:31:14.535 --> 01:31:16.838
IN OUR CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM
01:31:16.904 --> 01:31:17.772
CURRENTLY THE SYSTEM IS
01:31:17.839 --> 01:31:19.273
OVERBURDENED AND THERE SIMPLY
01:31:19.340 --> 01:31:21.442
ARE NOT ENOUGH BEDS. TO BE
01:31:21.509 --> 01:31:22.510
AVAILABLE TO TREAT THESE
01:31:22.577 --> 01:31:24.712
INDIVIDUALS WE BELIEVE THE
01:31:24.779 --> 01:31:27.381
COUNCIL BELIEVES THAT S. B.
01:31:27.448 --> 01:31:28.382
ELEVEN EIGHTY SEVEN WILL HELP
01:31:28.449 --> 01:31:30.151
RELIEVE PRESSURE ON THE SYSTEM.
01:31:30.218 --> 01:31:32.253
BY OUR REDUCING WORK BURDENS
01:31:32.320 --> 01:31:33.621
THAT WOULD OTHERWISE OCCUR
01:31:33.688 --> 01:31:34.722
DURING THE THIRD YEAR OF
01:31:34.789 --> 01:31:36.624
RESTORATION --%
01:31:36.691 --> 01:31:39.026
CALLED FOUR IN CURRENT LAW THIS
01:31:39.093 --> 01:31:41.262
IN TURNS FREES UP RESOURCES
01:31:41.329 --> 01:31:42.930
ATTENDED A TO ATTEND TO THE
01:31:42.997 --> 01:31:44.165
NEEDS OF THESE INDIVIDUALS
01:31:44.232 --> 01:31:45.666
INCLUDING.
01:31:45.733 --> 01:31:48.736
FADS AND FREEZE UP SUPPORT --
01:31:48.803 --> 01:31:50.471
TO DEAL WITH THE THESE
01:31:50.538 --> 01:31:52.039
INDIVIDUALS IN A MORE TIMELY
01:31:52.106 --> 01:31:53.407
MANNER HAPPY TO PROVIDE
01:31:53.474 --> 01:31:55.176
SPECIFICS ABOUT EXACTLY WHY WE
01:31:55.243 --> 01:31:56.878
THINK IT'LL REALLY PRESSURE ON
01:31:56.944 --> 01:31:58.913
THE COURTS OF THE COMMITTEE --
01:31:58.980 --> 01:32:02.283
IS INTERESTED AND THEN FINALLY
01:32:02.350 --> 01:32:04.318
AS THOUGH LARA ARNOLD JUST
01:32:04.385 --> 01:32:06.787
STATED THE COUNCIL AGREES THAT
01:32:06.854 --> 01:32:09.156
S. B. ELEVEN SIX EIGHTY SEVEN IS
01:32:09.223 --> 01:32:10.191
CONSISTENT WITH THE CURRENT.
01:32:10.258 --> 01:32:13.394
VIEW VIEWS OF MENTAL HEALTH
01:32:13.461 --> 01:32:14.962
NEUROSCIENCE PROFESSIONAL.
01:32:15.029 --> 01:32:15.963
IT'S THAT IT IS LIKE UNLIKELY
01:32:16.030 --> 01:32:17.565
THAT AN INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS BEEN
01:32:17.632 --> 01:32:19.600
FOUND AYE AS T. WILL RE RESTORED
01:32:19.667 --> 01:32:21.302
COMPETENCY AFTER PERIOD.
01:32:21.369 --> 01:32:22.737
OF TWO YEARS.
01:32:22.803 --> 01:32:23.504
THAT'S MAKING THE COURT
01:32:23.571 --> 01:32:24.672
PROCEEDINGS IN THE THIRD YEAR
01:32:24.739 --> 01:32:27.441
UNNECESSARY BECAUSE THEY DO NOT
01:32:27.508 --> 01:32:28.609
SUPPORT THE GOAL.
01:32:28.676 --> 01:32:31.379
RESTORATION TO COMPETENCY FOR
01:32:31.445 --> 01:32:33.547
THESE REASONS WE THE COUNCIL
01:32:33.614 --> 01:32:36.183
WOULD URGE YOUR I'VE YOU TO
01:32:36.250 --> 01:32:37.051
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY
01:32:37.118 --> 01:32:39.020
HAVE THINK YOU THANK YOU OR ANY
01:32:39.086 --> 01:32:40.922
OTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
01:32:40.988 --> 01:32:43.291
ANY WITNESSES NOT POSITION.
01:32:43.357 --> 01:32:43.858
ANY QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE
01:32:43.925 --> 01:32:47.094
MEMBERS.
01:32:47.161 --> 01:32:48.462
I YOU MAY CLOSE ARE MISSED
01:32:48.529 --> 01:32:49.664
CHAIRMAN --
01:32:49.730 --> 01:32:51.832
THE MOTIVATION FOR THIS BILL
01:32:51.899 --> 01:32:53.868
FROM MY STANDPOINT CAME --
01:32:53.935 --> 01:32:55.803
ONE I VISITED A TRUSTED HERO
01:32:55.870 --> 01:32:58.806
HOSPITAL AND SAN LUIS OBISPO
01:32:58.873 --> 01:33:00.274
COUNTY I OF AS YOU KNOW I'VE
01:33:00.341 --> 01:33:02.877
VISITED LE TAKE UP.
01:33:02.944 --> 01:33:04.211
TO I KNOW I'M UP TO TWENTY FOUR
01:33:04.278 --> 01:33:06.814
PRESENTS AND STATE HOSPITALS I
01:33:06.881 --> 01:33:08.416
VISITED I'M GOING.
01:33:08.482 --> 01:33:10.851
TO I INVITE TO COMMITTEE MEMBERS
01:33:10.918 --> 01:33:12.520
TO THE TORE WERE DOING ON
01:33:12.586 --> 01:33:14.422
THURSDAY --
01:33:14.488 --> 01:33:15.723
AT THE BACK OF BILL MEDICAL --
01:33:15.790 --> 01:33:18.492
FACILITY --
01:33:18.559 --> 01:33:21.262
WE WE WE TALK TO THE ENTRY
01:33:21.329 --> 01:33:23.531
PEOPLE WHERE THE BUS GOES INTO A
01:33:23.597 --> 01:33:25.132
TRUST COULD RURAL.
01:33:25.199 --> 01:33:26.934
AND I TALKED TO THE THE PEOPLE
01:33:27.001 --> 01:33:28.703
THAT PROCESS PEOPLE AS THEY GOT
01:33:28.769 --> 01:33:30.571
OFF THE BUS FROM THE COUNTY --
01:33:30.638 --> 01:33:32.273
JAILS GOING INTO THE STATE
01:33:32.340 --> 01:33:34.175
HOSPITAL THAT THESE ARE PEOPLE
01:33:34.241 --> 01:33:36.210
OVERCONFIDENCE STAND TRIAL THAT.
01:33:36.277 --> 01:33:37.678
WERE DELIVERED TO THE A TRUSTED
01:33:37.745 --> 01:33:40.614
HERO AND I SAID WHAT KIND OF
01:33:40.681 --> 01:33:42.650
FOLDERS YOU HAVE FROM.
01:33:42.717 --> 01:33:44.285
PEOPLE --
01:33:44.352 --> 01:33:45.753
MEDICAL FOLDERS AND SO FORTH.
01:33:45.820 --> 01:33:47.555
PIECES JIM.
01:33:47.621 --> 01:33:49.023
WE HAVE HARDLY ANY INFORMATION
01:33:49.090 --> 01:33:50.925
ABOUT THESE PEOPLE.
01:33:50.992 --> 01:33:52.860
THEY COME AND WE HAVE UNKNOWNS
01:33:52.927 --> 01:33:53.928
WERE WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHO
01:33:53.995 --> 01:33:55.262
THEY ARE.
01:33:55.329 --> 01:33:56.697
THIS IT THIS WHOLE SYSTEM
01:33:56.764 --> 01:33:58.299
DOESN'T WORK RIGHT.
01:33:58.366 --> 01:33:59.800
SO I THINK THIS IS JUST THE
01:33:59.867 --> 01:34:01.969
FIRST STAGE.
01:34:02.036 --> 01:34:04.338
OF TRYING TO FIX A SYSTEM THAT
01:34:04.405 --> 01:34:06.240
DOESN'T WORK RIGHT.
01:34:06.307 --> 01:34:08.776
AND THIS THIS THIS BILL GOES A
01:34:08.843 --> 01:34:09.744
LITTLE BIT TOWARDS THAT
01:34:09.810 --> 01:34:11.045
DIRECTION I SHOULD I VOTE.
01:34:11.112 --> 01:34:12.413
AND I THINK WE OUGHT TO CONTINUE
01:34:12.480 --> 01:34:14.081
TO EXPLORE.
01:34:14.148 --> 01:34:16.684
THIS ISSUE OF OF HOW WE
01:34:16.751 --> 01:34:18.419
ADJUDICATE PEOPLE THAT WITH
01:34:18.486 --> 01:34:20.454
MENTAL ILLNESS AND CONTINUE TO
01:34:20.521 --> 01:34:21.756
EXPLORE --
01:34:21.822 --> 01:34:22.356
JUSTICE FOR THESE PEOPLE THANK
01:34:22.423 --> 01:34:22.723
YOU [inaudible]
01:34:22.790 --> 01:34:25.359
THANK YOU.
01:34:25.426 --> 01:34:27.695
WE HAVE A MOTION THE SECOND
01:34:27.762 --> 01:34:30.965
CULTURAL.
01:34:31.032 --> 01:34:32.333
S. B. ELEVEN EIGHTY SEVEN THE
01:34:32.400 --> 01:34:33.401
MOTION IS TO PASS TO THE
01:34:33.467 --> 01:34:35.036
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE JONES
01:34:35.102 --> 01:34:36.771
SAWYER AYE JONES SAWYER AYE
01:34:36.837 --> 01:34:37.938
LACKEY.
01:34:38.005 --> 01:34:40.374
LACKEY AYE CARDIO.
01:34:40.441 --> 01:34:41.175
CARILLO I KAMLAGER-DOVE
01:34:41.242 --> 01:34:41.475
[inaudible]
01:34:41.542 --> 01:34:42.676
KILEY [inaudible]
01:34:42.743 --> 01:34:44.779
QUIRK.
01:34:44.845 --> 01:34:46.480
QUIRK AYE SANTIAGO.
01:34:46.547 --> 01:34:48.549
THAT MEASURE PASSES GRADUATION
01:34:48.616 --> 01:35:04.832
THANK YOU MISS
01:35:12.073 --> 01:35:12.139
.
01:35:12.139 --> 01:35:14.875
SIR WAY FOR MR PORTANTINO
01:35:14.942 --> 01:35:15.176
[inaudible]
01:35:15.242 --> 01:35:17.011
WIENER [inaudible]
01:35:17.078 --> 01:35:20.815
GALGIANI [inaudible]
01:35:20.881 --> 01:35:23.284
AND HUESO [inaudible]
01:35:23.350 --> 01:35:25.319
AND SO.
01:35:25.386 --> 01:35:26.854
AND SKINNER HAD DECIDED YET BUT
01:35:26.921 --> 01:35:27.655
I KNOW SHE'S IN PUBLIC SAFETY
01:35:27.721 --> 01:35:43.838
UPSTAIRS
01:39:21.822 --> 01:39:23.490
HI GOOD MORNING SENATOR
01:39:23.557 --> 01:39:25.392
WHENEVER YOU'RE READY TO BEGIN I
01:39:25.459 --> 01:39:25.659
KNOW YOU.
01:39:25.726 --> 01:39:26.660
YOU'RE BUSY [inaudible]
01:39:26.727 --> 01:39:33.334
NO MORE. 80% S. B. TWELVE
01:39:33.400 --> 01:39:33.834
SEVENTY TWO WHICH WOULD
01:39:33.901 --> 01:39:35.569
PERMANENTLY ESTABLISH THE TAX
01:39:35.636 --> 01:39:37.171
RECOVERY AND CRIMINAL
01:39:37.237 --> 01:39:38.005
ENFORCEMENT TASK FORCE TO THE
01:39:38.072 --> 01:39:40.841
BILL.
01:39:40.908 --> 01:39:42.643
THANK YOU OTHERWISE KNOWN AS
01:39:42.710 --> 01:39:44.378
TRACE THE TRACE TASK FORCES
01:39:44.445 --> 01:39:46.380
STATEWIDE MULTI AGENCY EFFORT
01:39:46.447 --> 01:39:47.648
THAT FOCUSES ON INVESTIGATING
01:39:47.715 --> 01:39:49.616
PROSECUTING INDIVIDUALS INVOLVED
01:39:49.683 --> 01:39:50.617
IN THE UNDERGROUND ECONOMY MIGHT
01:39:50.684 --> 01:39:52.553
ECONOMY.
01:39:52.619 --> 01:39:53.787
THE TASK FORCE WHICH ORIGINATED
01:39:53.854 --> 01:39:55.622
AS A PILOT PROGRAM ONLY CONSISTS
01:39:55.689 --> 01:39:57.291
OF TWO TEAMS WITH THE
01:39:57.358 --> 01:39:58.592
HEADQUARTERS IN SACRAMENTO.
01:39:58.659 --> 01:39:59.960
RESPONSIBLE FOR INDEX
01:40:00.027 --> 01:40:02.363
INVESTIGATIONS FROM BAKERSFIELD
01:40:02.429 --> 01:40:03.263
TO THE OREGON BORDER.
01:40:03.330 --> 01:40:05.432
AND LOS ANGELES RESPONSIBLE FOR
01:40:05.499 --> 01:40:06.667
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.
01:40:06.734 --> 01:40:08.635
SP TWELVE SEVENTY TWO AND THREE
01:40:08.702 --> 01:40:09.837
ADDITIONAL HEADQUARTERS IN SAN
01:40:09.903 --> 01:40:13.073
DIEGO THE BAY AREA AND FRESNO I
01:40:13.140 --> 01:40:14.274
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR AYE
01:40:14.341 --> 01:40:14.942
VOTE.
01:40:15.008 --> 01:40:16.710
AND WITH ME TODAY TO ANSWER ANY
01:40:16.777 --> 01:40:18.412
TECHNICAL QUESTIONS AS MARIO DIP
01:40:18.479 --> 01:40:20.214
DAY BERNARDO ON BEHALF OF THE
01:40:20.280 --> 01:40:21.548
ATTORNEY GENERAL.
01:40:21.615 --> 01:40:23.350
THANK YOU THANK YOU.
01:40:23.417 --> 01:40:24.651
MORNING MR CHAIRING COMMITTEE
01:40:24.718 --> 01:40:25.886
MEMBERS MY NAME IS MARIO
01:40:25.953 --> 01:40:27.187
DIBERNARDO AND I'M HERE ON
01:40:27.254 --> 01:40:28.455
BEHALF OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL
01:40:28.522 --> 01:40:29.456
HOBBY OF THE SARAH.
01:40:29.523 --> 01:40:32.893
WHO'S A PROUD SPONSOR OF AB
01:40:32.960 --> 01:40:33.527
TWELVE SEVENTY TWO A BILL THAT
01:40:33.594 --> 01:40:35.462
WOULD PERMANENTLY ESTABLISH AND
01:40:35.529 --> 01:40:38.399
STRENGTHEN THE TRACE TASK FORCE.
01:40:38.465 --> 01:40:40.934
TO HELP COMBAT THE UNDERGROUND
01:40:41.001 --> 01:40:42.669
ECONOMY IN CALIFORNIA.
01:40:42.736 --> 01:40:43.904
THE UNDERGROUND ECONOMY TAKES
01:40:43.971 --> 01:40:45.472
ITS HEAVIEST TOLL ON HARD
01:40:45.539 --> 01:40:46.507
WORKING CALIFORNIANS OF ALL
01:40:46.573 --> 01:40:48.409
STRIPES.
01:40:48.475 --> 01:40:50.310
MANY WORKERS GO WITHOUT BASIC
01:40:50.377 --> 01:40:52.980
RIGHTS AND PROTECTIONS.
01:40:53.046 --> 01:40:54.581
LAW BITING BUSINESSES ARE PUT AT
01:40:54.648 --> 01:40:56.750
A COMPETITIVE DISADVANTAGE.
01:40:56.817 --> 01:40:57.818
AND CONSUMER PROTECTIONS ARE
01:40:57.885 --> 01:40:59.086
THREATENED [inaudible]
01:40:59.153 --> 01:41:01.188
MOREOVER.
01:41:01.255 --> 01:41:02.723
TAX REVENUES ARE LOSS THAT COULD
01:41:02.790 --> 01:41:04.091
OTHERWISE GO TO FUND LAW
01:41:04.158 --> 01:41:06.660
ENFORCEMENT [inaudible]
01:41:06.727 --> 01:41:09.296
EDUCATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE FOR
01:41:09.363 --> 01:41:09.897
CALIFORNIANS THAT PLAY BY THE
01:41:09.963 --> 01:41:12.766
RULES.%
01:41:12.833 --> 01:41:14.501
IN TWO THOUSAND FOURTEEN STATE
01:41:14.568 --> 01:41:16.270
AGENCIES JOIN FORCES TO ADDRESS
01:41:16.336 --> 01:41:17.604
THE UNDERGROUND ECONOMY
01:41:17.671 --> 01:41:19.740
ESTABLISHING THE TAX RECOVERY IN
01:41:19.807 --> 01:41:20.574
CRIMINAL ENFORCEMENT TASK FORCE
01:41:20.641 --> 01:41:22.543
OR TRACE.
01:41:22.609 --> 01:41:25.446
COR PARTNERS ALONG WITH DOJ OR
01:41:25.512 --> 01:41:27.114
THE STATE'S MAIN.
01:41:27.181 --> 01:41:28.816
TAXING AGENCIES THE DEPARTMENT
01:41:28.882 --> 01:41:30.784
OF TAX AND FEE ADMINISTRATION
01:41:30.851 --> 01:41:32.686
THE FRANCHISE TAX BOARD AND
01:41:32.753 --> 01:41:33.153
EMPLOYMENT DEVELOPMENT
01:41:33.220 --> 01:41:34.388
DEPARTMENT.
01:41:34.455 --> 01:41:35.656
TOGETHER WE LEVERAGE OUR
01:41:35.722 --> 01:41:37.391
EXPERTISE POOL OUR INVESTIGATIVE
01:41:37.458 --> 01:41:39.793
RESOURCES WE DO THIS TO COMBAT
01:41:39.860 --> 01:41:42.629
EGREGIOUS FELONY LEVEL CRIMES
01:41:42.696 --> 01:41:44.231
INDIA IN THE UNDERGROUND ECONOMY.
01:41:44.298 --> 01:41:48.135
ARE USING TAX EVASION AS THE
01:41:48.202 --> 01:41:49.136
MEASURE --
01:41:49.203 --> 01:41:50.804
TO PROSECUTE.
01:41:50.871 --> 01:41:52.706
THESE BAD ACTORS WE'RE TALKING
01:41:52.773 --> 01:41:53.540
ABOUT.
01:41:53.607 --> 01:41:55.008
A BUSINESSES THAT ARE ENGAGING
01:41:55.075 --> 01:41:56.477
HUMAN TRAFFICKING SELLING
01:41:56.543 --> 01:41:58.479
COUNTERFEIT GOODS SUCH AS A
01:41:58.545 --> 01:41:59.813
LEGAL PHARMACEUTICALS COSMETIC
01:41:59.880 --> 01:42:01.515
PRODUCTS.
01:42:01.582 --> 01:42:03.684
TOBACCO THAT ARE UNREGULATED AND
01:42:03.750 --> 01:42:07.187
OFTEN CAUGHT CONTAIN --
01:42:07.254 --> 01:42:09.089
HAZARDOUS INGREDIENTS --
01:42:09.156 --> 01:42:09.957
THE TRACE TASK FORCE STARTED
01:42:10.023 --> 01:42:12.793
WITH THE SACRAMENTO TEAM AND
01:42:12.860 --> 01:42:14.561
BRANCHED OUT TO LOS ANGELES
01:42:14.628 --> 01:42:17.030
USING EXISTING RESOURCES.
01:42:17.097 --> 01:42:19.700
AND A SHORT FEW YEARS OUR TEAMS
01:42:19.766 --> 01:42:21.368
IDENTIFIED TWO HUNDRED TEN
01:42:21.435 --> 01:42:23.136
MILLION ON REPORTED GROSS
01:42:23.203 --> 01:42:24.972
RECEIPTS AND FORTY SIX MILLION
01:42:25.038 --> 01:42:26.206
AND ASSOCIATED TAX LOSS TO THE
01:42:26.273 --> 01:42:28.041
STATE.
01:42:28.108 --> 01:42:29.610
WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF OR WE
01:42:29.676 --> 01:42:31.512
HAVE COLLECTED OVER FORTY
01:42:31.578 --> 01:42:33.313
MILLION DOLLARS IN LOST TAX
01:42:33.380 --> 01:42:35.048
REVENUE.
01:42:35.115 --> 01:42:37.084
BUT WE'RE JUST GETTING STARTED.
01:42:37.150 --> 01:42:38.452
S. B. TWELVE SEVENTY TWO
01:42:38.519 --> 01:42:39.419
APPARENTLY ESTABLISHED THE TRACE
01:42:39.486 --> 01:42:40.554
TASK FORCE WITHIN DEPARTMENT OF
01:42:40.621 --> 01:42:42.022
JUSTICE.
01:42:42.089 --> 01:42:42.956
THE BILL WOULD GIVE THE TASK
01:42:43.023 --> 01:42:44.391
FORCE THE SUPPORT IT NEEDS TO
01:42:44.458 --> 01:42:45.492
INVESTIGATE THESE CRIMES AND
01:42:45.559 --> 01:42:47.528
RECOVER THE TAX REVENUES WE NEED
01:42:47.594 --> 01:42:49.162
TO KEEP OUR STATE STRONG.
01:42:49.229 --> 01:42:50.664
WE WOULD STRENGTHENED THE TEAMS
01:42:50.731 --> 01:42:51.765
WE ALREADY HAVE IN SACRAMENTO IN
01:42:51.832 --> 01:42:53.133
LA.
01:42:53.200 --> 01:42:53.967
AND THEN BRANCH OUT TO THE OTHER
01:42:54.034 --> 01:42:55.502
MAJOR METROPOLITAN AREAS IN THE
01:42:55.569 --> 01:42:57.671
STATE THE BAY AREA FRESNO AND
01:42:57.738 --> 01:43:00.707
SAN DIEGO.
01:43:00.774 --> 01:43:01.875
THIS WOULD ALLOW THE TREES TASK
01:43:01.942 --> 01:43:03.310
FORCE TO MORE EFFECTIVELY AND
01:43:03.377 --> 01:43:04.711
EFFICIENTLY FIGHT UNDERGROUND
01:43:04.778 --> 01:43:06.213
ECONOMY CRIMES THROUGHOUT THE
01:43:06.280 --> 01:43:07.214
ENTIRE STATE.
01:43:07.281 --> 01:43:09.249
WOULD GO A LONG WAY IN HELPING
01:43:09.316 --> 01:43:10.784
OUR STATE FUND VITAL PROGRAMS
01:43:10.851 --> 01:43:12.019
AND PROTECT THE HEART.
01:43:12.085 --> 01:43:13.253
OF THE RIGHTS OF HARDWORKING
01:43:13.320 --> 01:43:14.454
CALIFORNIANS.
01:43:14.521 --> 01:43:15.756
EMPLOYEES AND BUSINESSES WHO
01:43:15.822 --> 01:43:17.724
PLAY BY THE RULES.
01:43:17.791 --> 01:43:19.226
THE BILL HAS RECEIVED UNANIMOUS
01:43:19.293 --> 01:43:21.695
SUPPORT BIPARTISAN SUPPORT AND
01:43:21.762 --> 01:43:23.030
SENATE GOVERNANCE AND FINANCE
01:43:23.096 --> 01:43:24.932
SENATE PUBLIC SAFETY IN THE
01:43:24.998 --> 01:43:25.632
SENATE FLOOR.
01:43:25.699 --> 01:43:26.800
AND LIKE TO STAKE CENTER
01:43:26.867 --> 01:43:28.335
GALGIANI AND CENTER ATKINS FOR
01:43:28.402 --> 01:43:30.137
OFFERING THIS BILL AND THE BROAD
01:43:30.203 --> 01:43:31.805
RANGE OF CO AUTHORS ARE BOTH
01:43:31.872 --> 01:43:34.007
DEMOCRATS AND AND REPUBLICANS.
01:43:34.074 --> 01:43:34.875
THE ATTORNEY GENERAL LOOKS
01:43:34.942 --> 01:43:36.476
FORWARD [inaudible]
01:43:36.543 --> 01:43:39.846
TO OF EFFORT ON THIS ISSUE --
01:43:39.913 --> 01:43:43.016
WHICH IS CRITICAL TO OUR
01:43:43.083 --> 01:43:44.151
IN THE STATE I RESPECTFULLY ASK
01:43:44.217 --> 01:43:46.386
YOUR AYE VOTE.
01:43:46.453 --> 01:43:46.653
THANK YOU.
01:43:46.720 --> 01:43:48.922
ANY OTHER WITNESSES.
01:43:48.989 --> 01:43:49.957
MARIA GARCIA GREENBERG TRAURIG
01:43:50.023 --> 01:43:50.991
ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
01:43:51.058 --> 01:43:51.692
LANDSCAPE CONTRACTORS
01:43:51.758 --> 01:43:53.660
ASSOCIATION HERE VERY GRATEFUL
01:43:53.727 --> 01:43:55.329
AND SUPPORTIVE OF THIS EFFORT TO
01:43:55.395 --> 01:43:56.697
COMBAT UNDERGROUND ECONOMY
01:43:56.763 --> 01:43:57.998
ACTIVITIES THAT THAT THAT'S
01:43:58.065 --> 01:43:58.799
THAT'S ALREADY BEEN SAID IS
01:43:58.865 --> 01:44:00.000
REALLY HURTING THAT LAW ABIDING
01:44:00.067 --> 01:44:01.668
BUSINESSES THANK YOU ASK FOR
01:44:01.735 --> 01:44:02.002
YOUR SUPPORT.
01:44:02.069 --> 01:44:04.171
THANK YOU ANY OTHER WITNESS IN
01:44:04.237 --> 01:44:05.305
SUPPORT TIFFANY MAP IS ON BEHALF
01:44:05.372 --> 01:44:06.673
THE CALIFORNIA DISTRICT
01:44:06.740 --> 01:44:08.375
ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION AND
01:44:08.442 --> 01:44:08.609
SUPPORT.
01:44:08.675 --> 01:44:10.043
THANK YOU.
01:44:10.110 --> 01:44:10.544
HARDER ANY WITNESSES IN
01:44:10.611 --> 01:44:13.814
OPPOSITION.
01:44:13.880 --> 01:44:15.682
OKAY SEEIN NONE.
01:44:15.749 --> 01:44:16.249
ANY QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE
01:44:16.316 --> 01:44:20.087
MEMBERS.
01:44:20.153 --> 01:44:22.723
KAMLAGER-DOVE I'M STILL NEW.
01:44:22.789 --> 01:44:24.091
OUR HIGH SENATOR I JUST HAD A
01:44:24.157 --> 01:44:26.326
QUESTION RECOVERED FONZIE
01:44:26.393 --> 01:44:28.328
MENTIONED IN AN EFFORT --
01:44:28.395 --> 01:44:29.696
TO RECOVER FUNDS ARE LOW WHERE
01:44:29.763 --> 01:44:30.931
WOULD THOSE GOT WOULD THEY GO
01:44:30.998 --> 01:44:32.966
BAY BACK INTO THE GENERAL FUND
01:44:33.033 --> 01:44:36.370
OR THEY DISTRIBUTED.
01:44:36.436 --> 01:44:37.771
THEY WOULD BE DISTRIBUTED TO THE
01:44:37.838 --> 01:44:39.039
AGENCIES THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE
01:44:39.106 --> 01:44:41.742
GONE TO ORIGINALLY [inaudible]
01:44:41.808 --> 01:44:44.044
WHEN AND YEAH BUT WHAT THE FIRST
01:44:44.111 --> 01:44:45.178
THAT IT TO THE EXTENT THAT THERE
01:44:45.245 --> 01:44:46.480
ARE VICTIMS INVOLVED IN THE
01:44:46.546 --> 01:44:48.615
CRIME THAT IT THAT ARE NOT STATE
01:44:48.682 --> 01:44:50.417
AGENCIES THEY'D GET PRIORITY IN
01:44:50.484 --> 01:44:51.785
TERMS OF RESTITUTION?
01:44:51.852 --> 01:44:53.620
BUT THEN IT WOULD GO TO THE THE
01:44:53.687 --> 01:44:56.223
VICTIM AGENCY WHICH WOULD OFTEN
01:44:56.289 --> 01:44:57.958
GO TO THE GENERAL FUND OR IF
01:44:58.025 --> 01:44:58.992
WE'RE DEALING LIKE FOR EXAMPLE
01:44:59.059 --> 01:45:00.627
COUNTERFEIT TOBACCO PRODUCTS
01:45:00.694 --> 01:45:02.529
THERE ARE THERE STATES STATUE
01:45:02.596 --> 01:45:04.164
STATE LAW THAT DICTATES.
01:45:04.231 --> 01:45:06.266
HOW THOSE FUNDS ARE WHERE THEY
01:45:06.333 --> 01:45:08.268
SHOULD GO ON THE BILL INCLUDES A
01:45:08.335 --> 01:45:10.037
REPORTING REQUIREMENT ANNUALLY
01:45:10.103 --> 01:45:12.439
WHICH WOULD --
01:45:12.506 --> 01:45:13.640
PROVIDE THE TRANSPARENCY TO SHOW
01:45:13.707 --> 01:45:15.709
LEGISLATURE WHERE THE FUNDS
01:45:15.776 --> 01:45:18.145
COLLECTED ARE ALL ABOUT THE
01:45:18.211 --> 01:45:20.113
FINAL DISPOSITION OF THOSE FUNDS
01:45:20.180 --> 01:45:20.414
[inaudible]
01:45:20.480 --> 01:45:23.283
THANK YOU.
01:45:23.350 --> 01:45:25.852
THAT YOU MAY CLOSE.
01:45:25.919 --> 01:45:28.789
I RESPECTFULLY ASK ME I ABOUT.
01:45:28.855 --> 01:45:30.023
GREAT TO GET A MOTION.
01:45:30.090 --> 01:45:32.259
SO CALLED WORLD.
01:45:32.325 --> 01:45:34.327
ON S. BEAST TWELVE SEVENTY TWO
01:45:34.394 --> 01:45:35.295
THE MOTION IS TO PASS TO THE
01:45:35.362 --> 01:45:37.130
REVENUE AND TAXATION COMMITTEE
01:45:37.197 --> 01:45:38.665
JONES SAWYER BY TO ANSWER AYE
01:45:38.732 --> 01:45:40.000
AYE LACKEY.
01:45:40.067 --> 01:45:42.069
LACKEY GUY GAVRIEL CAVIAR I
01:45:42.135 --> 01:45:44.137
KAMLAGER-DOVE.
01:45:44.204 --> 01:45:45.472
KAMLAGER-DOVE I KILEY.
01:45:45.539 --> 01:45:47.374
KILEY AYE QUIRK QUIRK AYE
01:45:47.441 --> 01:45:49.409
SANTIAGO.
01:45:49.476 --> 01:46:04.324
THAT MEASURE PASSES ADULATION
01:46:04.391 --> 01:46:04.624
[inaudible]
01:46:04.691 --> 01:46:06.927
WIENER [inaudible]
01:46:06.993 --> 01:46:09.429
PORTANTINO.
01:46:09.496 --> 01:46:19.339
HUESO AND SKINNER.
01:46:19.406 --> 01:46:21.475
AUG CUE MISTER PORTANTINO
01:46:21.541 --> 01:46:21.775
[inaudible]
01:46:21.842 --> 01:46:22.976
CHAIRMAN [inaudible]
01:46:23.043 --> 01:46:27.147
MEMBERS YOU HAD BEST BE ELEVEN
01:46:27.214 --> 01:46:28.315
HUNDRED ITEM NUMBER [inaudible]
01:46:28.381 --> 01:46:33.954
EIGHT I DO.
01:46:34.020 --> 01:46:35.455
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIRMAN
01:46:35.522 --> 01:46:36.857
IMMERSED TODAY I'M PRESENTING S.
01:46:36.923 --> 01:46:38.024
B..
01:46:38.091 --> 01:46:38.558
ELEVEN HUNDRED WHICH PROBE
01:46:38.625 --> 01:46:40.927
PROHIBIT THE SALE OF FIREARMS BY
01:46:40.994 --> 01:46:42.395
LICENSED DEALER TO ANY PERSON
01:46:42.462 --> 01:46:45.065
BELOW THE AGE OF TWENTY ONE WELL
01:46:45.132 --> 01:46:46.233
HANDGUNS ARE USED IN THE
01:46:46.299 --> 01:46:48.368
MAJORITY OF GUN DEATHS.
01:46:48.435 --> 01:46:49.770
LONG GUNS HAVE BEEN USED TO
01:46:49.836 --> 01:46:51.638
PERPETUATE MANY OF THE LARGEST
01:46:51.705 --> 01:46:53.206
MASS SHOOTINGS IN CALIFORNIA.
01:46:53.273 --> 01:46:55.242
INCLUDING THE TRAGIC EVENTS THAT
01:46:55.308 --> 01:46:56.443
TOOK PLACE IN SAN BERNARDINO.
01:46:56.510 --> 01:46:58.245
CALIFORNIA IS HOME. TO SOME OF
01:46:58.311 --> 01:46:59.446
THE MOST STRINGENT GUN LAWS IN
01:46:59.513 --> 01:47:01.548
THE COUNTRY ONE EXAMPLE OF THIS
01:47:01.615 --> 01:47:03.517
IS REQUIRING INDIVIDUAL THE B.
01:47:03.583 --> 01:47:04.484
TWENTY ONE YEARS OF AGE IN ORDER
01:47:04.551 --> 01:47:05.986
TO PURCHASE A HANDGUN.
01:47:06.052 --> 01:47:08.789
SINCE CALIFORNIA STRIX GUN LAWS
01:47:08.855 --> 01:47:10.991
HAVE TAKEN AFFECTION DATA SHOWS
01:47:11.057 --> 01:47:12.359
THAT THERE'S BEEN A SUCCESSFUL
01:47:12.425 --> 01:47:13.860
REDUCTION IN THE INCIDENCE OF
01:47:13.927 --> 01:47:15.495
GUN TRAFFICKING. ONE NOT
01:47:15.562 --> 01:47:17.464
BURDENING LEGITIMATE GUN OWNERS
01:47:17.531 --> 01:47:18.265
ARE PERSONS WHO WISH TO ACQUIRE
01:47:18.331 --> 01:47:19.866
GUNS.
01:47:19.933 --> 01:47:21.434
IN ORDER TO BE YOU UNIFORMLY
01:47:21.501 --> 01:47:23.270
CONSISTENT CALIFORNIA SHOULD
01:47:23.336 --> 01:47:24.571
APPLY THE TWENTY ONE YEAR OLD
01:47:24.638 --> 01:47:29.109
AGE LIMIT. TO LONG GUNS.
01:47:29.176 --> 01:47:30.177
OVER THE PAST TEN YEARS
01:47:30.243 --> 01:47:31.578
CALIFORNIANS HAVE TYPICALLY
01:47:31.645 --> 01:47:32.813
PURCHASE MORE LONG GUNS THAN
01:47:32.879 --> 01:47:35.849
HANDGUNS --
01:47:35.916 --> 01:47:36.950
FIFTEEN HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FIVE
01:47:37.017 --> 01:47:38.285
LONG GUNS WERE PURCHASED BY
01:47:38.351 --> 01:47:40.520
PERSONS AGED.
01:47:40.587 --> 01:47:41.288
EIGHTEEN TO TWENTY IN THE FIRST
01:47:41.354 --> 01:47:43.924
QUARTER OF TWO THOUSAND EIGHTEEN
01:47:43.990 --> 01:47:46.593
ALONE OF THE TWENTY SIX THOUSAND
01:47:46.660 --> 01:47:47.694
GUNS USED IN CRIMES THAT WERE
01:47:47.761 --> 01:47:48.862
ENTERED INTO CALIFORNIA
01:47:48.929 --> 01:47:50.831
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE AUTOMATED
01:47:50.897 --> 01:47:53.633
FIREARM SYSTEM DATABASE. ELEVEN
01:47:53.700 --> 01:47:54.267
THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED WERE LONG
01:47:54.334 --> 01:47:55.302
GUNS.
01:47:55.368 --> 01:47:56.636
THIS BILL WOULD EXEMPT CERTAIN
01:47:56.703 --> 01:47:57.971
GROUPS OF PEOPLE SUCH AS
01:47:58.038 --> 01:47:59.005
LICENSED HUNTERS MILITARY AND
01:47:59.072 --> 01:48:00.574
LAW ENFORCEMENT.
01:48:00.640 --> 01:48:01.808
PREVENTING THE FLOW OF GUNS IS
01:48:01.875 --> 01:48:03.043
IMPORTANT PUBLIC SAFETY
01:48:03.109 --> 01:48:04.611
REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THE
01:48:04.678 --> 01:48:05.879
FIREARM AS A HANDGUN.
01:48:05.946 --> 01:48:07.781
OR LONG GONE OR PURCHASE NEW
01:48:07.848 --> 01:48:09.382
FROM A DEALER OR THROUGH A
01:48:09.449 --> 01:48:10.884
PRIVATE PARTY TRANSACTION --
01:48:10.951 --> 01:48:12.352
I HAVE AMANDA WILCOX FROM THE
01:48:12.419 --> 01:48:13.753
BRADY CAMPAIGN TO PREVENT GUN
01:48:13.820 --> 01:48:16.756
VIOLENCE TO TESTIFY ON BEHALF OF
01:48:16.823 --> 01:48:17.190
ELEVEN HUNDRED AND I
01:48:17.257 --> 01:48:18.291
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN AYE VOTE
01:48:18.358 --> 01:48:18.592
[inaudible]
01:48:18.658 --> 01:48:20.260
THANK YOU.
01:48:20.327 --> 01:48:22.062
GOOD MORNING AGAIN --
01:48:22.128 --> 01:48:23.897
AMANDA WILCOX ON BEHALF OF THE
01:48:23.964 --> 01:48:25.632
CALIFORNIA CHAPTERS OF THE BRADY
01:48:25.699 --> 01:48:27.868
CAMPAIGN TO PREVENT GUN VIOLENCE --
01:48:27.934 --> 01:48:29.970
THE BRADY CAMPAIGN GENERALLY
01:48:30.036 --> 01:48:32.606
BELIEVES THAT HANDGUNS AND LONG
01:48:32.672 --> 01:48:34.808
GUNS SHOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE
01:48:34.875 --> 01:48:38.111
SAME LAWS --
01:48:38.178 --> 01:48:40.046
BACK YEARS AGO.
01:48:40.113 --> 01:48:41.581
I'VE THAT LONG GUNS WERE
01:48:41.648 --> 01:48:44.251
PRIMARILY OF RIFLES ARE NOT THE
01:48:44.317 --> 01:48:45.819
GRANDFATHER SHOTGUN LOCKED IN
01:48:45.886 --> 01:48:47.721
THE CLOSET --
01:48:47.787 --> 01:48:49.990
AND THEY WEREN'T TREATED THE
01:48:50.056 --> 01:48:51.791
SAME BUT NOW THEM SO CALLED
01:48:51.858 --> 01:48:54.628
MODERN PACE SPORTING RIFLE.
01:48:54.694 --> 01:48:56.763
IS A HIGH POWERED CAN BE A HIGH
01:48:56.830 --> 01:48:58.999
POWERED SEMI AUTOMATIC WITH
01:48:59.065 --> 01:49:01.334
EXCHANGEABLE MAGAZINE ODD THAT
01:49:01.401 --> 01:49:03.169
IS OR CAN BE MORE LETHAL MORE
01:49:03.236 --> 01:49:05.005
THREATENING --
01:49:05.071 --> 01:49:07.240
THAN A HANDGUN SO THERE'S NO WE
01:49:07.307 --> 01:49:09.009
SUBJECT TO THE SAME LAWS THIS
01:49:09.075 --> 01:49:11.411
BILL VOTE DOES NOT ACTUALLY ARE
01:49:11.478 --> 01:49:13.613
SUBJECT LONG GUNS AND HANDGUNS
01:49:13.680 --> 01:49:15.015
TO THE SAME LAW IT JUST
01:49:15.081 --> 01:49:16.449
PROHIBITS THE PURCHASE OF A LONG
01:49:16.516 --> 01:49:17.484
GONE.
01:49:17.550 --> 01:49:19.452
BY SOMEONE AGE TWENTY ONE IT
01:49:19.519 --> 01:49:21.187
DOES NOT PROHIBIT POSSESSION AND
01:49:21.254 --> 01:49:22.889
AS YOU HEARD ON THE PROVIDES A
01:49:22.956 --> 01:49:24.457
NUMBER OF EXCEPTIONS.
01:49:24.524 --> 01:49:27.060
I'D ALLOWS FOR INTRA FAMILIAL
01:49:27.127 --> 01:49:29.729
SALE OR TRANSFER OF A FIREARM SO
01:49:29.796 --> 01:49:32.565
THAT THROUGH DICK TRADITION OF A
01:49:32.632 --> 01:49:35.035
FATHER GIVING HIS SON HIS
01:49:35.101 --> 01:49:37.170
HUNTING GUN CAN CONTINUE --
01:49:37.237 --> 01:49:38.038
AT THE AMERICAN MEDICAL
01:49:38.104 --> 01:49:41.207
ASSOCIATION JUST LAST WEEK I
01:49:41.274 --> 01:49:43.743
ISSUED A STATEMENT ARE REGARDING
01:49:43.810 --> 01:49:44.911
FIREARM --
01:49:44.978 --> 01:49:46.546
GUM BINDS PREVENTION POLICIES
01:49:46.613 --> 01:49:48.181
THAT THEY'RE NOW SUPPORTING AND
01:49:48.248 --> 01:49:49.816
AMONG THOSE POLICIES THEY ARE
01:49:49.883 --> 01:49:51.284
NOW SUPPORTING BANNING
01:49:51.351 --> 01:49:53.787
POSSESSION AND USE OF FIREARMS
01:49:53.853 --> 01:49:55.388
AND AMMUNITION BY UNSUPERVISED
01:49:55.455 --> 01:49:57.724
YOUTH UNDER THE AGE OF TWENTY
01:49:57.791 --> 01:49:58.758
ONE AND SUPPORT BANNING THE
01:49:58.825 --> 01:50:01.194
SALES OF FIREARMS AND AMMUNITION.
01:50:01.261 --> 01:50:02.429
FROM LICENSE AN UNLICENSED
01:50:02.495 --> 01:50:04.230
DEALERS TO THOSE UNDER THE AGE
01:50:04.297 --> 01:50:06.499
OF TWENTY ONE EXCLUDING CERTAIN
01:50:06.566 --> 01:50:08.168
CATEGORIES OF INDIVIDUALS SUCH
01:50:08.234 --> 01:50:09.736
AS MILITARY LAW ENFORCEMENT
01:50:09.803 --> 01:50:10.603
PERSONNEL.
01:50:10.670 --> 01:50:12.205
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THIS BILL
01:50:12.272 --> 01:50:14.174
DOES AND I BELIEVE OF THE
01:50:14.240 --> 01:50:16.609
AMERICAN MEDICAL ASSOCIATION --
01:50:16.676 --> 01:50:18.111
IS ADOPTING THOSE POLICIES
01:50:18.178 --> 01:50:20.747
BECAUSE THEY RECOGNIZE AS TO WHY.
01:50:20.814 --> 01:50:22.015
THAT --
01:50:22.082 --> 01:50:24.017
MATURITY IMPULSIVE AND RECKLESS
01:50:24.084 --> 01:50:26.553
BEHAVIOR AND RESPONSIBILITY VARY
01:50:26.619 --> 01:50:29.789
GREATLY AMONG EIGHTEEN TO TWENTY
01:50:29.856 --> 01:50:30.824
ONE YEAR OLDS --
01:50:30.890 --> 01:50:31.925
FOR THAT THAT THEYARE
01:50:31.992 --> 01:50:33.326
DISPROPORTIONATELY LINKED TO
01:50:33.393 --> 01:50:35.996
CRIME AND FIREARM HOMICIDES SO
01:50:36.062 --> 01:50:37.197
IT MAKES COULD IT'S COMMON SENSE
01:50:37.263 --> 01:50:39.299
AND IT CERTAINLY GOOD PUBLIC
01:50:39.366 --> 01:50:41.568
HEALTH POLICY --
01:50:41.634 --> 01:50:42.669
TO RAISE THE MINIMUM AGE FOR
01:50:42.736 --> 01:50:44.371
PURCHASE.
01:50:44.437 --> 01:50:45.105
FOR OF A LONG GONE FROM A
01:50:45.171 --> 01:50:47.874
FIREARM DEALER TO EACH.
01:50:47.941 --> 01:50:48.742
TWENTY ONE THANK YOU FOR YOUR
01:50:48.808 --> 01:50:50.944
SUPPORT THANK YOU OTHER ANY
01:50:51.011 --> 01:50:56.149
OTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
01:50:56.216 --> 01:50:56.683
LADY BORTON REPRESENTING
01:50:56.750 --> 01:50:58.118
AMERICAN CAN BE PEDIATRICS
01:50:58.184 --> 01:50:59.686
CALIFORNIA DIVISION WE ARE IN
01:50:59.753 --> 01:51:00.687
STRONG SUPPORT.
01:51:00.754 --> 01:51:02.055
THANK YOU ARE YOU ANY WITNESSES
01:51:02.122 --> 01:51:05.925
IN OPPOSITION.
01:51:05.992 --> 01:51:06.526
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM
01:51:06.593 --> 01:51:07.827
COMMITTEE MEMBERS MISTER QUIRK.
01:51:07.894 --> 01:51:12.699
MOVE THE BELL.
01:51:12.766 --> 01:51:16.302
HERE NO OTHER QUESTION --
01:51:16.369 --> 01:51:18.405
IT.
01:51:18.471 --> 01:51:21.908
I'M SORRY I DIDN'T HEAR ME
01:51:21.975 --> 01:51:22.208
[inaudible]
01:51:22.275 --> 01:51:24.811
AFTER.
01:51:24.878 --> 01:51:26.446
HOUSE SPEAKER LOUDER NEXT TO HER
01:51:26.513 --> 01:51:33.553
[inaudible] THIRTY DAYS.
01:51:33.620 --> 01:51:34.487
MISTER MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE
01:51:34.554 --> 01:51:35.922
CREEK TO LOSE ABOUT HALF OF THE
01:51:35.989 --> 01:51:37.357
FIREARMS POLICY COALITION THE
01:51:37.424 --> 01:51:38.825
CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF
01:51:38.892 --> 01:51:40.260
FEDERAL FIREARMS LICENSEES.
01:51:40.326 --> 01:51:41.795
I JUST FIND IT INTERESTING THAT
01:51:41.861 --> 01:51:42.695
WE'RE TALK WE'RE TALKING HERE IS
01:51:42.762 --> 01:51:44.130
A CONSTITUTIONALLY ENUMERATED
01:51:44.197 --> 01:51:45.131
RIGHT THE RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR
01:51:45.198 --> 01:51:47.534
ARMS AT THE AGE OF EIGHTEEN
01:51:47.600 --> 01:51:49.869
ADULT YOU'RE CONSIDERED AN ADULT.
01:51:49.936 --> 01:51:51.604
OF RESPOND YOU ARE LEGALLY
01:51:51.671 --> 01:51:53.973
RESPONSIBLE BOTH CRIMINALLY AND
01:51:54.040 --> 01:51:55.408
CIVILLY FOR THE DECISIONS THAT
01:51:55.475 --> 01:51:57.544
YOU MAKE FOR THE CONTRACT THAT
01:51:57.610 --> 01:51:59.479
YOU THAT YOU ENTER INTO --
01:51:59.546 --> 01:52:01.081
WE YOU ARE ALLOWED TO VOTE YOU
01:52:01.147 --> 01:52:02.449
CAN BE SENT HALFWAY ACROSS THE
01:52:02.515 --> 01:52:04.551
WORLD HANDED A FIREARM IN ORDER
01:52:04.617 --> 01:52:05.585
TO DEFEND YOUR COUNTRY AND WHAT
01:52:05.652 --> 01:52:06.586
WE'RE SAYING IS.
01:52:06.653 --> 01:52:07.754
YOU DO NOT HAVE THAT SAME EXACT
01:52:07.821 --> 01:52:11.524
RIGHT TO YOUR OWN HOME --
01:52:11.591 --> 01:52:14.627
AYE I WOULD HAPPEN TO AGREE WITH --
01:52:14.694 --> 01:52:15.929
WITH ONE POINT THOUGH.
01:52:15.995 --> 01:52:17.664
WE BELIEVE THAT YES FIREARMS
01:52:17.730 --> 01:52:19.499
LONG GUNS AND HANDGUNS DO NEED
01:52:19.566 --> 01:52:20.500
TO BE TREATED THE SAME AND THAT
01:52:20.567 --> 01:52:22.035
YOU SHOULD HAVE A CONSTITUTIONAL
01:52:22.102 --> 01:52:23.870
RIGHT TO BE ABLE TO OWN THEM.
01:52:23.937 --> 01:52:25.805
EVEN AT THE AGE OF EIGHTEEN WE
01:52:25.872 --> 01:52:27.340
HAVE TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT
01:52:27.407 --> 01:52:29.209
WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW INDIVIDUALS
01:52:29.275 --> 01:52:30.543
TO BE TO BE ADULTS TO BE
01:52:30.610 --> 01:52:33.279
CITIZENS AND HAVE FULL ACCESS TO
01:52:33.346 --> 01:52:34.614
THE RIGHTS THEREOF.
01:52:34.681 --> 01:52:36.149
OR WE'RE GOING TO SAY THAT AT
01:52:36.216 --> 01:52:37.484
THE AGE OF EIGHTEEN UNDER THE
01:52:37.550 --> 01:52:38.551
AGE OF TWENTY ONE YOU ARE NOT AN
01:52:38.618 --> 01:52:40.086
ADULT AND THEREFORE YOU DO NOT
01:52:40.153 --> 01:52:42.122
HAVE ACCESS TO ALL OF THE RIGHTS.
01:52:42.188 --> 01:52:44.457
THEIR OF EITHER WAY WE NEED TO
01:52:44.524 --> 01:52:45.458
MAKE A DECISION I THINK THAT
01:52:45.525 --> 01:52:46.793
YOU'RE A GROWN UP AN ADULT IN
01:52:46.860 --> 01:52:48.561
THE CITIZEN AND YOU HAVE RIGHTS.
01:52:48.628 --> 01:52:50.063
OR YOU DO NOT FOR THESE REASONS
01:52:50.130 --> 01:52:50.630
THAT WE OPPOSE THIS MEASURE
01:52:50.697 --> 01:52:51.965
THANK YOU.
01:52:52.031 --> 01:52:53.133
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIRMAN
01:52:53.199 --> 01:52:54.367
MEMBERS SEPARATE IS REPRESENTING
01:52:54.434 --> 01:52:55.935
GOMEZ CALIFORNIA TWO POINTS
01:52:56.002 --> 01:52:57.003
NUMBER ONE OF THE FEDERAL
01:52:57.070 --> 01:52:58.371
GOVERNMENT RECOGNIZES ANYBODY
01:52:58.438 --> 01:53:00.039
OVER THE AGE OF SEVENTEEN AS A
01:53:00.106 --> 01:53:02.041
MEMBER OF THE MILITIA.
01:53:02.108 --> 01:53:02.942
TONY CONSCRIPTION TONY
01:53:03.009 --> 01:53:04.410
REGISTRATION OR ANYTHING THEY
01:53:04.477 --> 01:53:05.378
ARE RECOGNIZED BY THE FEDERAL
01:53:05.445 --> 01:53:06.913
GOVERNMENT HAS MEMBER THE
01:53:06.980 --> 01:53:08.014
MILITIA AND THIS BILL
01:53:08.081 --> 01:53:10.483
SPECIFICALLY DENIES.
01:53:10.550 --> 01:53:12.252
THE SECOND AMENDMENTRIGHTS OF
01:53:12.318 --> 01:53:14.454
MEMBERS OF THE MILITIA.
01:53:14.521 --> 01:53:16.523
WHICH WAS A PURPOSE THAT.
01:53:16.589 --> 01:53:17.524
YOU NEED THE IN THERE WITH THAT
01:53:17.590 --> 01:53:19.292
THE THE SECOND AMENDMENT WANTED
01:53:19.359 --> 01:53:21.060
TO PROTECT HAVE THE ABILITY FOR
01:53:21.127 --> 01:53:22.629
THE CITIZENRY TO COME UP WITH
01:53:22.695 --> 01:53:25.231
THEIR OWN GUNS THAT THEY OWN AND
01:53:25.298 --> 01:53:26.599
BROUGHT IN ORDER TO DEFEND THIS
01:53:26.666 --> 01:53:27.000
COUNTRY.
01:53:27.066 --> 01:53:29.202
THIS BILL SPECIFICALLY PREVENTS
01:53:29.269 --> 01:53:30.336
IT PEOPLE ARE GONNA SAY WELL YOU
01:53:30.403 --> 01:53:31.171
KNOW WE'VE WE'VE DONE IT WITH
01:53:31.237 --> 01:53:33.106
HANDGUNS WELL IT'S GOT AWAY WITH
01:53:33.173 --> 01:53:34.841
HANDGUNS BECAUSE WE HAVE CHOSEN
01:53:34.908 --> 01:53:35.942
NOT TO SUE.
01:53:36.009 --> 01:53:37.610
ON THE CONSTITUTIONALITY OF THAT
01:53:37.677 --> 01:53:39.078
THING NOW THAT IT'S A A CLEAR.
01:53:39.145 --> 01:53:41.681
ACROSS THE COURT --
01:53:41.748 --> 01:53:43.249
BLANKET -- A
01:53:43.316 --> 01:53:44.784
SITUATION THERE WILL BE A
01:53:44.851 --> 01:53:46.119
LAWSUIT JUST LIKE THERE WAS A A
01:53:46.186 --> 01:53:48.321
LAWSUIT FILED IN IN IN FLORIDA
01:53:48.388 --> 01:53:49.189
AND SECONDLY.
01:53:49.255 --> 01:53:52.692
JUST LOGIC AND AND AND EQUAL
01:53:52.759 --> 01:53:53.660
THINKING.
01:53:53.726 --> 01:53:54.661
YOU THE STATEMENT MATURITY
01:53:54.727 --> 01:53:56.196
IMPULSIVE AND RECKLESS BEHAVING
01:53:56.262 --> 01:53:57.764
RESPONSIBLY VARY GREATLY AMONG
01:53:57.830 --> 01:53:59.098
EIGHTEEN TO TWENTY YEAR OLDS.
01:53:59.165 --> 01:54:00.867
I MEAN IF IF YOU REALLY BELIEVE
01:54:00.934 --> 01:54:01.901
THAT THEN THEN YOU WOULD BE
01:54:01.968 --> 01:54:03.303
CONSIDERING IF YOU REALLY WANT
01:54:03.369 --> 01:54:04.804
TO SAVE LIVES WITH THE SHOULD BE
01:54:04.871 --> 01:54:06.773
ALLOWING ANYBODY FROM. EIGHTEEN
01:54:06.839 --> 01:54:07.373
TO TWENTY TO DRIVE SINCE MORE
01:54:07.440 --> 01:54:11.144
KID FROM THE MIS USE OR RECKLESS
01:54:11.211 --> 01:54:12.612
USE OF OF CARS IN THE DO WITH
01:54:12.679 --> 01:54:14.447
FIREARMS IN CALIFORNIA EVERY
01:54:14.514 --> 01:54:15.682
SINGLE YEAR.
01:54:15.748 --> 01:54:17.717
YOU YOU YOU MIGHT HAVE TO THINK
01:54:17.784 --> 01:54:18.785
ABOUT COLLEAGUES.
01:54:18.851 --> 01:54:20.687
THEY MIGHT BE RECKLESSLY USING
01:54:20.753 --> 01:54:22.121
THAT.
01:54:22.188 --> 01:54:24.023
RIGHT THAT WE HAVE GIVEN THEM
01:54:24.090 --> 01:54:26.459
THROUGH LEGISLATION TO VOTE.
01:54:26.526 --> 01:54:29.596
WHICH IS A HUGE RESPONSIBILITY
01:54:29.662 --> 01:54:31.831
SO YOU KNOW TO SAY ALL YOU'RE
01:54:31.898 --> 01:54:33.199
YOU'RE TOO DUMB TOO STUPID TOO
01:54:33.266 --> 01:54:35.001
IMMATURE TO TO OWN A GUN AND
01:54:35.068 --> 01:54:36.102
DEFEND YOURSELF NOW MIND YOU
01:54:36.169 --> 01:54:37.337
THERE ARE MEMBERS OF THE
01:54:37.403 --> 01:54:38.771
MILITARY.
01:54:38.838 --> 01:54:40.506
WHO HAVE SERVED OUR SERVICE AND
01:54:40.573 --> 01:54:42.275
HAVE SEPARATED FROM THE MILITARY
01:54:42.342 --> 01:54:44.010
BEFORE THEY'RE?
01:54:44.077 --> 01:54:45.345
TWENTY ONE AND WITH THIS BILL
01:54:45.411 --> 01:54:45.945
SAYS THAT IF YOU COME BACK TO
01:54:46.012 --> 01:54:47.647
THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
01:54:47.714 --> 01:54:48.781
YOU GET MARRIED AND YOU HAVE A
01:54:48.848 --> 01:54:50.817
FAMILY AND YOUR HONOR TWENTY ONE
01:54:50.883 --> 01:54:52.252
EVEN THOUGH YOU HAVE BEEN OFF
01:54:52.318 --> 01:54:53.253
THE FOREIGN WARS AND DONE ALL
01:54:53.319 --> 01:54:54.387
KINDS OF THINGS.
01:54:54.454 --> 01:54:55.588
YOU CAN'T COME BACK YOU KNOW
01:54:55.655 --> 01:54:57.690
LONGER MEMBER OF THE MILITARY.
01:54:57.757 --> 01:54:58.691
YOU CAN COME BACK AND DEFEND
01:54:58.758 --> 01:55:00.393
YOURSELF FOR YOUR FAMILY AND
01:55:00.460 --> 01:55:03.062
YOUR HOME BECAUSE YOU'RE UNDER.
01:55:03.129 --> 01:55:03.696
TWENTY ONE DOESN'T MAKE A WHOLE
01:55:03.763 --> 01:55:04.998
LOT OF SENSE SO. FOR THESE
01:55:05.064 --> 01:55:07.367
REASONS AND AND AND OTHERS --
01:55:07.433 --> 01:55:09.502
OF WHERE WE'RE JOINED BY SOME OF
01:55:09.569 --> 01:55:11.070
OUR OTHER COLLEAGUES THE IN IN
01:55:11.137 --> 01:55:12.138
OPPOSITION.
01:55:12.205 --> 01:55:13.940
A WERE STRONGLY OPPOSED
01:55:14.007 --> 01:55:14.240
[inaudible]
01:55:14.307 --> 01:55:16.009
THANK YOU.
01:55:16.075 --> 01:55:17.577
MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS THE
01:55:17.644 --> 01:55:18.478
COMMITTEE FOR THE RECORD AND RE
01:55:18.544 --> 01:55:19.879
WITH NATIONAL RIFLE ASSOCIATION
01:55:19.946 --> 01:55:21.080
ONCE AGAIN WE HAVE A LEGISLATIVE
01:55:21.147 --> 01:55:22.348
PROPOSAL.
01:55:22.415 --> 01:55:23.182
LOOKING TO RESTRICT THE RIGHTS
01:55:23.249 --> 01:55:24.450
OF LAW ABIDING CITIZENS RATHER
01:55:24.517 --> 01:55:26.386
THAN GOING AFTER THE CRIMINAL
01:55:26.452 --> 01:55:28.054
MISUSE OF FIREARM SITS.
01:55:28.121 --> 01:55:29.355
THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER
01:55:29.422 --> 01:55:31.157
AGAIN REPEAT REPEAT RESTRICTING
01:55:31.224 --> 01:55:32.458
THE RIGHTS OF LAW ABIDING FOR
01:55:32.525 --> 01:55:33.459
THOSE REASONS REPOSE THANK YOU.
01:55:33.526 --> 01:55:36.396
THANK YOU.
01:55:36.462 --> 01:55:37.297
CHAIRMAN ROY GRAVERT OF THE HAVE
01:55:37.363 --> 01:55:38.598
THE CALIFORNIA RIFLE PISTOL
01:55:38.665 --> 01:55:39.732
ASSOCIATION FOR THE REASONS
01:55:39.799 --> 01:55:41.301
OUTLINED BY MY COLLEAGUES WHO
01:55:41.367 --> 01:55:41.934
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK
01:55:42.001 --> 01:55:42.235
[inaudible]
01:55:42.302 --> 01:55:44.637
THANK YOU.
01:55:44.704 --> 01:55:46.806
MISTER CHURCHILL MCMAHON LE LAST
01:55:46.873 --> 01:55:48.808
WEEKEND I SPENT THE OF THE WEEK
01:55:48.875 --> 01:55:49.942
YOU WITH THREE HUNDRED FIFTY
01:55:50.009 --> 01:55:52.312
KIDS.
01:55:52.378 --> 01:55:52.845
SIXTEEN SEVENTEEN EIGHTEEN
01:55:52.912 --> 01:55:53.913
SHOTGUNS ALL OVER THE PLACE
01:55:53.980 --> 01:55:55.381
DAHLE HAVE A GOOD TIME.
01:55:55.448 --> 01:55:56.983
ALL VERY SAFE.
01:55:57.050 --> 01:56:00.486
AND ON THEIR BEHALF IN MY BEHALF
01:56:00.553 --> 01:56:04.023
I HAS FOR YOU KNOW VOTE.
01:56:04.090 --> 01:56:05.024
GOOD MORNING MISTER CHAIRMAN
01:56:05.091 --> 01:56:06.125
CAPULETS REPRESENTING THE
01:56:06.192 --> 01:56:07.527
NATIONAL SHOOTING SPORTS
01:56:07.593 --> 01:56:08.695
FOUNDATION SPARK CLUB
01:56:08.761 --> 01:56:10.096
INTERNATIONAL OUTDOOR SPORTS WAS
01:56:10.163 --> 01:56:12.065
COALITION OUTDOOR SPORTS WITH
01:56:12.131 --> 01:56:13.966
COALITION AND SIX CALIFORNIAS
01:56:14.033 --> 01:56:15.635
SPORTSMEN'S LOBBY OWN OPPOSITION.
01:56:15.702 --> 01:56:17.570
MIGHT ALSO POINT OUT THAT WOMEN
01:56:17.637 --> 01:56:19.205
ARE THE THE ONES THAT ARE REALLY
01:56:19.272 --> 01:56:20.840
PURCHASING FIREARMS NOW AND
01:56:20.907 --> 01:56:22.408
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT YOUNG WOMEN
01:56:22.475 --> 01:56:24.110
ON COLLEGE CAMPUSES HE MIGHT BE
01:56:24.177 --> 01:56:25.278
SINGLE MOTHERS.
01:56:25.345 --> 01:56:26.713
WHO ARE UNDER TWENTY ONE WHO
01:56:26.779 --> 01:56:27.680
HAVE THE RIGHT TO PROTECT
01:56:27.747 --> 01:56:29.048
THEMSELVES THANK YOU?
01:56:29.115 --> 01:56:30.983
THANK YOU.
01:56:31.050 --> 01:56:32.151
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM
01:56:32.218 --> 01:56:36.422
COMMITTEE MEMBERS [inaudible]
01:56:36.489 --> 01:56:39.726
SEEING NONE.
01:56:39.792 --> 01:56:41.060
YOU MAY CLOSE THANK YOU ARE
01:56:41.127 --> 01:56:42.695
MISTER CHAIR I WOULD POINT OUT
01:56:42.762 --> 01:56:44.931
THAT YOU HAVE TO BE I BELIEVE
01:56:44.997 --> 01:56:45.965
TWENTY FIVE TO RENT A CAR --
01:56:46.032 --> 01:56:47.934
RIGHT.
01:56:48.000 --> 01:56:50.403
SO THAT THERE ARE REASONABLE
01:56:50.470 --> 01:56:52.739
RESTRICTIONS ON MULTIPLE THINGS --
01:56:52.805 --> 01:56:54.440
WE KNOW THAT --
01:56:54.507 --> 01:56:55.908
THE TWO DEADLY SCHOOL SHOOTING
01:56:55.975 --> 01:56:58.010
SANDY HOOK AND STONEMAN DOUGLAS
01:56:58.077 --> 01:56:59.445
WERE PERPETRATED.
01:56:59.512 --> 01:57:01.013
BY EIGHTEEN TO TWENTY OR L.
01:57:01.080 --> 01:57:02.382
TWENTY YEAR OLDS WITH LONG GUNS
01:57:02.448 --> 01:57:03.516
WE KNOW.
01:57:03.583 --> 01:57:05.918
THAT THE SURVIVORS IN FLORIDA
01:57:05.985 --> 01:57:09.756
HAVE PASSIONATELY MADE THE CASE.
01:57:09.822 --> 01:57:11.457
THAT THE CASUAL GUN PURCHASE BY
01:57:11.524 --> 01:57:13.159
A TEENAGER SHOULD BE PROHIBITED
01:57:13.226 --> 01:57:15.395
AND WE SHOULD RAISE THE AGE.
01:57:15.461 --> 01:57:16.796
TO TWENTY ONE I THINK WE SHOULD
01:57:16.863 --> 01:57:18.498
RESPOND TO THOSE PLEASE I THINK
01:57:18.564 --> 01:57:19.832
IF WASHINGTON WON'T.
01:57:19.899 --> 01:57:22.568
LEAD CALIFORNIA WILL --
01:57:22.635 --> 01:57:26.539
INDIVIDUALS. 184% OF THE
01:57:26.606 --> 01:57:28.040
POPULATION BUT COMMIT 17% OF GUN
01:57:28.107 --> 01:57:29.942
HOMICIDES.
01:57:30.009 --> 01:57:31.978
YOUNG ADULTS EIGHTEEN TO TWENTY
01:57:32.044 --> 01:57:32.712
FIVE EXPERIENCE SOME OF THE
01:57:32.779 --> 01:57:34.680
HIGHEST RATES OF SERIOUS MENTAL
01:57:34.747 --> 01:57:36.482
ILLNESS WHICH WE SHOULD BE
01:57:36.549 --> 01:57:37.950
ADDRESSING AS WELL --
01:57:38.017 --> 01:57:40.186
IN TWO THOUSAND FIFTEEN TWENTY
01:57:40.253 --> 01:57:42.188
THREE POINT 4% OF THOSE ARRESTED
01:57:42.255 --> 01:57:42.622
FOR MURDER.
01:57:42.688 --> 01:57:44.323
AYE NON NEGLIGENT MANSLAUGHTER
01:57:44.390 --> 01:57:48.461
IN THE U. S. WERE UNDER --
01:57:48.528 --> 01:57:48.961
TWENTY ONE WE NEED TO DO
01:57:49.028 --> 01:57:50.396
SOMETHING ABOUT THIS --
01:57:50.463 --> 01:57:52.231
THIS IS A REASONABLE APPROACH
01:57:52.298 --> 01:57:53.399
WITH I THINK APPROPRIATE
01:57:53.466 --> 01:57:55.802
EXEMPTIONS THAT MAKE SENSE AND I
01:57:55.868 --> 01:57:57.603
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN AYE VOTE.
01:57:57.670 --> 01:58:00.206
THANK YOU --
01:58:00.273 --> 01:58:01.808
IT IT JUST DISS WHAT ELSE THINKS
01:58:01.874 --> 01:58:02.775
QUORUM.
01:58:02.842 --> 01:58:04.477
KNOWN I WAS YOUNG AND I WAS
01:58:04.544 --> 01:58:06.145
EIGHTEEN I I THOUGHT I HAD A
01:58:06.212 --> 01:58:08.448
RIGHT TO SMOKE AND DRINK ALCOHOL
01:58:08.514 --> 01:58:10.249
OR SMOKE WEED TOO BUT I WAS
01:58:10.316 --> 01:58:12.919
PROHIBITED FROM --
01:58:12.985 --> 01:58:14.454
IN A MORE SERIOUS NOTE --
01:58:14.520 --> 01:58:15.087
THAT THAT THE AMOUNT OF
01:58:15.154 --> 01:58:16.522
ACCIDENTS THAT YOUNG PEOPLE ARE
01:58:16.589 --> 01:58:18.758
INVOLVED IN --
01:58:18.825 --> 01:58:21.160
A LOT OF BECAUSE OF DRINKING AND
01:58:21.227 --> 01:58:23.162
UNDER THE INFLUENCE AND SO ON IT
01:58:23.229 --> 01:58:25.164
IS.
01:58:25.231 --> 01:58:26.232
IT IS FOR THAT REASON THAT WHY
01:58:26.299 --> 01:58:28.434
WE DO RESTRICT.
01:58:28.501 --> 01:58:29.869
YOUNG PEOPLE AT CERTAIN AGES
01:58:29.936 --> 01:58:31.471
FROM DOING THINGS BECAUSE
01:58:31.537 --> 01:58:33.272
THEY'RE TO JUST NOT READY YET.
01:58:33.339 --> 01:58:34.774
AND I DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THE
01:58:34.841 --> 01:58:37.910
EXAMPLE OF RAIN CAR SO OF THE
01:58:37.977 --> 01:58:40.146
YES IT DOES SEEM TO BE.
01:58:40.213 --> 01:58:41.481
AND CONSISTENT.
01:58:41.547 --> 01:58:42.081
ROOM BUT IS INCONSISTENT FOR A
01:58:42.148 --> 01:58:43.583
REASON.
01:58:43.649 --> 01:58:45.051
CONSIDER FOR REASON FOR OF TO
01:58:45.117 --> 01:58:46.385
WHAT THAT --
01:58:46.452 --> 01:58:48.187
RECOMMENDED AYE VOTE.
01:58:48.254 --> 01:58:50.523
YOU HAVE A REALLY.
01:58:50.590 --> 01:58:50.890
THE GOOD MOTION.
01:58:50.957 --> 01:58:52.458
IF IT.
01:58:52.525 --> 01:58:54.093
I SB ELEVEN HUNDRED THE MOTION
01:58:54.160 --> 01:58:55.828
IS TO PASS TO THE APPROPRIATIONS
01:58:55.895 --> 01:58:57.630
COMMITTEE JONES SAWYER I JOBS
01:58:57.697 --> 01:58:59.398
ARE AYE LACKEY.
01:58:59.465 --> 01:59:01.868
LACKEY NO CARILLO.
01:59:01.934 --> 01:59:04.170
CALLIOPE AYE KAMLAGER-DOVE.
01:59:04.237 --> 01:59:07.240
I KAMLAGER-DOVE I KILEY.
01:59:07.306 --> 01:59:09.308
KILEY NO QUIRK AYE QUIRK AYE
01:59:09.375 --> 01:59:10.910
SANTIAGO.
01:59:10.977 --> 01:59:12.111
THE MEASURE PASSED [inaudible]
01:59:12.178 --> 01:59:14.714
THANK YOU [inaudible]
01:59:14.780 --> 01:59:16.649
MISTER WEINER.
01:59:16.716 --> 01:59:19.418
YOU HAVE S. B. TWO TO ONE AND S.
01:59:19.485 --> 01:59:30.263
B. [inaudible]
01:59:30.329 --> 01:59:35.001
NINE NINE ZERO BUILT.
01:59:35.067 --> 01:59:39.005
SO RIGHT ALONG DISCUSS
01:59:39.071 --> 01:59:39.305
[inaudible]
01:59:39.372 --> 01:59:41.374
BOB [inaudible]
01:59:41.440 --> 02:00:03.796
WHICH WHICH ONE OF YOUR
02:00:07.366 --> 02:00:07.567
OKAY
02:00:07.633 --> 02:00:08.801
WHENEVER YOU'RE READY OKAY
02:00:08.868 --> 02:00:10.703
BEHIND YOU MISTER CHAIRMAN --
02:00:10.770 --> 02:00:12.104
THANK YOU FOR ON HEARING THIS
02:00:12.171 --> 02:00:13.806
ITEM TODAY COLLEAGUES --
02:00:13.873 --> 02:00:15.741
SENATE BILL --
02:00:15.808 --> 02:00:16.976
TWO TWENTY ONE WILL BAN ON GUN
02:00:17.043 --> 02:00:19.445
SHOWS AT THE COW PALACE WHICH IS
02:00:19.512 --> 02:00:20.846
THE STATE FAIRGROUNDS.
02:00:20.913 --> 02:00:21.781
THAT SITS ON THE BORDER BETWEEN
02:00:21.847 --> 02:00:23.516
THAT [inaudible]
02:00:23.583 --> 02:00:25.885
ESCO -- CAL
02:00:25.952 --> 02:00:28.888
PALACE HOSTS ARE FIVE MULTI DAY
02:00:28.955 --> 02:00:30.489
GUN SHOWS --
02:00:30.556 --> 02:00:32.358
EVERY YEAR --
02:00:32.425 --> 02:00:33.926
THIS BILL WILL TAKE EFFECT ON
02:00:33.993 --> 02:00:35.561
JANUARY FIRST TWENTY TWENTY SO
02:00:35.628 --> 02:00:36.963
THAT WE ARE NOT CAUSING THE CAL
02:00:37.029 --> 02:00:38.564
PALACE TO BREACH.
02:00:38.631 --> 02:00:40.466
ITS CURRENT CONTRACT WHICH RUNS
02:00:40.533 --> 02:00:42.234
THROUGH LATE --
02:00:42.301 --> 02:00:44.036
TWENTY NINETEEN BECAUSE IT BCAL
02:00:44.103 --> 02:00:45.137
PALACE IS A STATE OWNED
02:00:45.204 --> 02:00:46.439
FAIRGROUND.
02:00:46.505 --> 02:00:47.773
ONLY THE STATE CAN RESTRICT
02:00:47.840 --> 02:00:50.209
GONSALVES AT THIS SITE.
02:00:50.276 --> 02:00:53.112
OUR LOCAL COMMUNITIES HAVE ZERO
02:00:53.179 --> 02:00:54.413
AUTHORITY TO DO SO.
02:00:54.480 --> 02:00:56.482
I THIS IS NOT CONTROVERSIAL IN
02:00:56.549 --> 02:00:58.284
OUR LOCAL COMMUNITIES.
02:00:58.351 --> 02:01:00.052
I THE GOVERNING BODIES ARE
02:01:00.119 --> 02:01:01.687
BOARDS OF SUPERVISORS AND SAN
02:01:01.754 --> 02:01:03.289
FRANCISCO COUNTY AND CEMETERY
02:01:03.356 --> 02:01:05.524
COUNTY AS WELL AS THE DALY CITY
02:01:05.591 --> 02:01:07.159
CITY COUNCIL --
02:01:07.226 --> 02:01:10.630
HAVE BEEN ADVOCATING FOR DECADES
02:01:10.696 --> 02:01:12.832
TO GET RID OF THESE GUN SHOWS --
02:01:12.898 --> 02:01:14.800
FOR THIS BILL WE HAVE UNANIMOUS
02:01:14.867 --> 02:01:17.503
RESOLUTIONS UNANIMOUS VOTES.
02:01:17.570 --> 02:01:18.270
THE SEVERED CISCO BOARD OF
02:01:18.337 --> 02:01:20.039
SUPERVISORS UNANIMOUS VOTE THE
02:01:20.106 --> 02:01:21.007
SAN MATEO COUNTY BOARD OF
02:01:21.073 --> 02:01:22.375
SUPERVISORS.
02:01:22.441 --> 02:01:23.209
UNANIMOUS VOTE ON DALY CITY
02:01:23.275 --> 02:01:24.910
COUNCIL.
02:01:24.977 --> 02:01:26.912
AS WELL AS UNANIMOUS VOTES ARE
02:01:26.979 --> 02:01:28.547
OUT OF THE SCHOOL BOARDS SAN
02:01:28.614 --> 02:01:29.749
FRANCISCO --
02:01:29.815 --> 02:01:30.883
AND JEFFERSON AND UNION HIGH
02:01:30.950 --> 02:01:32.485
SCHOOL DISTRICT --
02:01:32.551 --> 02:01:33.753
SO AGAIN THIS IS NOT
02:01:33.819 --> 02:01:35.154
CONTROVERSIAL LOCALLY YET OUR
02:01:35.221 --> 02:01:36.522
LOCAL COMMUNITIES HAVE NO
02:01:36.589 --> 02:01:38.591
ABILITY TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT
02:01:38.658 --> 02:01:40.726
THIS AND THAT'S WHY WE ARE
02:01:40.793 --> 02:01:41.761
STEPPING IN.
02:01:41.827 --> 02:01:43.529
WE HAVE A UNANIMOUS --
02:01:43.596 --> 02:01:46.298
SUPPORT CO SPONSORSHIP.
02:01:46.365 --> 02:01:47.800
LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION FROM BOTH
02:01:47.867 --> 02:01:49.835
SAN FRANCISCO COUNTY AND SAN
02:01:49.902 --> 02:01:50.636
MATEO.
02:01:50.703 --> 02:01:52.405
COUNTY I WANT TO THANK MY CO
02:01:52.471 --> 02:01:54.940
AUTHORS ARE HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS
02:01:55.007 --> 02:01:56.876
HAVE IMPRINT NOW PROTESTING --
02:01:56.942 --> 02:01:58.110
VIEWS -- GUN
02:01:58.177 --> 02:02:00.146
SHOWS AND SAYING THEY WANT THEM
02:02:00.212 --> 02:02:02.014
TO NOT BE THERE ANYMORE --
02:02:02.081 --> 02:02:04.617
AND WE KNOW THAT NATIONALLY ARE --
02:02:04.684 --> 02:02:06.819
YOUNG PEOPLE ARE NOW TAKING OVER
02:02:06.886 --> 02:02:08.654
A LOT OF THE LEADERSHIP --
02:02:08.721 --> 02:02:11.190
AGAINST V. EPIDEMIC OF GUN
02:02:11.257 --> 02:02:13.025
SHOOTINGS ON GUN MURDERS IN THIS
02:02:13.092 --> 02:02:13.926
COUNTRY.
02:02:13.993 --> 02:02:17.229
OF THIS COUNTRY IS AWASH IN GUNS.
02:02:17.296 --> 02:02:19.565
ARE WE HAVE --
02:02:19.632 --> 02:02:21.033
TWO AGENDAS EPIDEMIC OF MASS
02:02:21.100 --> 02:02:24.336
SHOOTINGS I AND IT IS ABSOLUTELY
02:02:24.403 --> 02:02:25.705
FRUSTRATING --
02:02:25.771 --> 02:02:27.606
I WILL SAY THAT THIS GUN SHOW
02:02:27.673 --> 02:02:30.109
CONTINUES TO EXIST RIGHT ON THE
02:02:30.176 --> 02:02:31.644
BORDER OF SAN FRANCISCO --
02:02:31.711 --> 02:02:34.280
AND DALY CITY OUR COMMUNITY
02:02:34.346 --> 02:02:35.247
WANTS --
02:02:35.314 --> 02:02:36.916
THESE GUN SHOWS NOT HAPPEN
02:02:36.982 --> 02:02:37.516
ANYMORE AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE
02:02:37.583 --> 02:02:39.385
HERE TODAY AND I RESPECTFULLY
02:02:39.452 --> 02:02:40.786
ASK FOR YOUR AYE VOTE.
02:02:40.853 --> 02:02:43.522
AYE WITH ME TODAY TO TESTIFY IN
02:02:43.589 --> 02:02:45.491
SUPPORT OF THE BILL.
02:02:45.558 --> 02:02:47.226
I'VE JUST LUMINOL LOW WHO ARE
02:02:47.293 --> 02:02:48.894
WHO IS THE MAYOR OF DALY CITY --
02:02:48.961 --> 02:02:50.463
AS WELL AS A MIRROR TO LOOK WHO
02:02:50.529 --> 02:02:52.965
IS A STUDENT AT SKYLINE COLLEGE
02:02:53.032 --> 02:02:54.767
COMMUNITY COLLEGE AND CEMETERY
02:02:54.834 --> 02:02:55.968
COUNTY --
02:02:56.035 --> 02:02:58.871
AND UNTIL RECENTLY WAS A
02:02:58.938 --> 02:03:00.906
JEFFERSON UNION HIGH SCHOOL --
02:03:00.973 --> 02:03:01.507
SO I RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR AYE
02:03:01.574 --> 02:03:02.808
VOTE.
02:03:02.875 --> 02:03:04.143
THANK YOU NEW THE FIVE MINUTES
02:03:04.210 --> 02:03:06.178
TOTAL.
02:03:06.245 --> 02:03:07.847
WE WERE WHICH BEGIN FIRST.
02:03:07.913 --> 02:03:09.915
THERE YOU GOOD GOOD MORNING
02:03:09.982 --> 02:03:11.383
CHAIRED JONES SAWYER AND
02:03:11.450 --> 02:03:12.885
COMMITTEE MEMBERS MY NAME IS
02:03:12.952 --> 02:03:14.386
JUST WOMAN ON THE MAYOR OF DALY
02:03:14.453 --> 02:03:15.321
CITY.
02:03:15.387 --> 02:03:17.089
I'M HERE THIS MORNING TO TESTIFY
02:03:17.156 --> 02:03:19.658
IN SUPPORT OF SB TWO TO ONE
02:03:19.725 --> 02:03:20.259
WHICH BECAUSE THE BAN ON GUN
02:03:20.326 --> 02:03:22.428
SHOWS AT THE COW PALACE IN DALY
02:03:22.495 --> 02:03:23.028
CITY.
02:03:23.095 --> 02:03:24.964
S. B. TWO TWO WHY WOULD PROHIBIT
02:03:25.030 --> 02:03:26.332
THE SALE OF FIREARMS AND
02:03:26.398 --> 02:03:27.433
AMMUNITION WERE AND OUR
02:03:27.500 --> 02:03:29.135
COMMUNITY AT THE STATE OWNED CHO
02:03:29.201 --> 02:03:30.136
HAU PALACE.
02:03:30.202 --> 02:03:32.738
WHICH IS AND ONE A DISTRICT
02:03:32.805 --> 02:03:34.640
AGRICULTURE ASSOCIATION THE COW
02:03:34.707 --> 02:03:36.175
PALACE AND OTHER STATE OWNED
02:03:36.242 --> 02:03:38.010
FACILITIES HOST GUN SHOWS
02:03:38.077 --> 02:03:39.812
SEVERAL YEARS AND MOST RECENTLY
02:03:39.879 --> 02:03:42.181
IN APRIL AND AGAIN ON JUNE NINTH
02:03:42.248 --> 02:03:43.282
OF THIS YEAR.
02:03:43.349 --> 02:03:44.884
DESPITE THIS LONGSTANDING
02:03:44.950 --> 02:03:46.385
HISTORY OF GUN SHOWS THAT THE
02:03:46.452 --> 02:03:48.621
COP PALACE TIMES HAVE CHANGED
02:03:48.687 --> 02:03:50.222
EXISTING LAWS THAT REGULATE THE
02:03:50.289 --> 02:03:51.690
SALE AND TRANSFER OF FIRE ARMS
02:03:51.757 --> 02:03:53.325
IN OUR STATE AND COUNTRY.
02:03:53.392 --> 02:03:54.794
HAD PROVEN AN ADEQUATE AND
02:03:54.860 --> 02:03:56.762
REDUCING THE INCIDENCE OF MASS
02:03:56.829 --> 02:03:58.164
GUN VIOLENCE THAT WE HAVE ALL
02:03:58.230 --> 02:03:59.565
WITNESSED.
02:03:59.632 --> 02:04:01.300
TRAGICALLY THESE INCIDENTS HAVE
02:04:01.367 --> 02:04:03.803
SERIOUSLY IMPACTED STUDENTS AND
02:04:03.869 --> 02:04:05.404
YOUTH ACROSS THE NATION AND IN
02:04:05.471 --> 02:04:07.706
OUR LOCAL COMMUNITY.
02:04:07.773 --> 02:04:10.075
STUDIES HAVE SHOWN THAT --
02:04:10.142 --> 02:04:12.178
SEVEN CHILDREN SLASH TEENS UNDER
02:04:12.244 --> 02:04:13.579
NINETEEN ARE KILLED WITH GUNS ON
02:04:13.646 --> 02:04:16.081
AN AVERAGE A DAY IN THIS NATION
02:04:16.148 --> 02:04:17.449
AS A MAYOR DALY CITY I'M
02:04:17.516 --> 02:04:18.751
ESPECIALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE
02:04:18.818 --> 02:04:19.985
SAFETY AND WELL BEING OF MY
02:04:20.052 --> 02:04:21.086
COMMUNITY.
02:04:21.153 --> 02:04:22.855
AND OUR YOUNG PEOPLE WOULD RAISE
02:04:22.922 --> 02:04:24.824
RECENT INCIDENTS OF GUN VIOLENCE
02:04:24.890 --> 02:04:26.458
OCCURRING IN THE NATION I'M
02:04:26.525 --> 02:04:27.560
COMMITTED TO PROTECTING THE
02:04:27.626 --> 02:04:29.261
STUDENTS OF DALY CITY.
02:04:29.328 --> 02:04:30.596
THE BASE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD OF
02:04:30.663 --> 02:04:32.965
DALY CITY HOME TO THE COW PALACE
02:04:33.032 --> 02:04:33.933
HAS.
02:04:33.999 --> 02:04:35.668
A T. THROUGH AIDS EIGHTH GRADE
02:04:35.734 --> 02:04:37.236
SCHOOL CHILD DEVELOPMENT CENTER
02:04:37.303 --> 02:04:39.371
AND COMMUNITY CENTER WITHIN ITS
02:04:39.438 --> 02:04:41.006
VICINITY ALL OF WHICH I'D LIKE
02:04:41.073 --> 02:04:42.641
TO PROTECT FROM POTENTIAL GUN
02:04:42.708 --> 02:04:44.510
VIOLENCE.
02:04:44.577 --> 02:04:46.612
AS POLICY MAKERS THE CITY OF KAT
02:04:46.679 --> 02:04:48.013
THE COUNCIL DALY CITY ALONG WITH
02:04:48.080 --> 02:04:49.682
THE GOVERNING BODIES IN THE CITY
02:04:49.748 --> 02:04:51.483
COUNTY OF SAN FRANCISCO OUR
02:04:51.550 --> 02:04:52.685
NEIGHBORING CITY THE COUNTY OF
02:04:52.751 --> 02:04:54.286
SAN MATEO ALL BOYS ONGOING
02:04:54.353 --> 02:04:55.221
CONCERN.
02:04:55.287 --> 02:04:56.355
ABOUT THE GUN SHOWS IN COW
02:04:56.422 --> 02:05:00.125
PALACE IRONICALLY BOTH DALY CITY
02:05:00.192 --> 02:05:01.994
AND SAN FRANCISCO PROHIBIT GUN
02:05:02.061 --> 02:05:03.596
SHOPS IN OUR RESPECTIVE.
02:05:03.662 --> 02:05:04.830
JURISDICTIONS YET IT IS
02:05:04.897 --> 02:05:06.298
FRUSTRATING THAT A LOOPHOLE
02:05:06.365 --> 02:05:07.766
TODAY'S PROHIBITION EXISTS AT
02:05:07.833 --> 02:05:09.068
THE COW PALACE.
02:05:09.134 --> 02:05:10.269
THEREBY IMPACTING BOTH OUR
02:05:10.336 --> 02:05:11.904
COMMUNITIES.
02:05:11.971 --> 02:05:13.706
I JUNE ELEVENTH THE CITY COUNCIL
02:05:13.772 --> 02:05:15.808
IN DALY CITY UNANIMOUSLY ENDORSE
02:05:15.875 --> 02:05:17.943
SPT TO WONDER WHETHER PASSAGE
02:05:18.010 --> 02:05:21.580
RESOLUTION OF NUMBER EIGHTEEN
02:05:21.647 --> 02:05:22.548
EIGHTY FOUR THE COUNCIL MY
02:05:22.615 --> 02:05:23.682
RECOGNIZE TO ADOPTION OF THIS
02:05:23.749 --> 02:05:25.517
RESOLUTION THAT THE SURGEON MASS
02:05:25.584 --> 02:05:26.886
GUN VIOLENCE.
02:05:26.952 --> 02:05:28.454
AND CONTINUING SALE OF GALS GUN
02:05:28.520 --> 02:05:29.755
SALES AT THE STATE OWNED
02:05:29.822 --> 02:05:31.757
FACILITY CALLS FOR ELECTED STATE
02:05:31.824 --> 02:05:34.393
REPRESENTATIVES TO TAKE A STAND.
02:05:34.460 --> 02:05:35.427
AGAINST GUN VIOLENCE BY ACTING
02:05:35.494 --> 02:05:37.763
SO.
02:05:37.830 --> 02:05:39.498
CHOOSE THE NUMBER OF FIRE ARMS
02:05:39.565 --> 02:05:41.033
ON THE STREETS ARE BEING SOLD AT
02:05:41.100 --> 02:05:43.302
THE COW PALACE AND GUN SHOWS.
02:05:43.369 --> 02:05:45.004
MISTER CHAIRMAN ON BEHALF THE
02:05:45.070 --> 02:05:46.272
RESIDENTS OF DALY CITY
02:05:46.338 --> 02:05:48.240
PARTICULARLY THOSE WHO LIVE IN
02:05:48.307 --> 02:05:50.509
THE SHADOW OF COW PALACE.
02:05:50.576 --> 02:05:52.745
AND THOSE SAFETY OF A PARAMOUNT
02:05:52.811 --> 02:05:54.313
CONCERN I URGE AN AFFIRMATIVE
02:05:54.380 --> 02:05:55.781
VOTE.
02:05:55.848 --> 02:05:57.049
AND S. B..
02:05:57.116 --> 02:05:58.183
TWO TO ONE A CERTIFIED COPY OF
02:05:58.250 --> 02:05:59.518
OUR RESOLUTION HAS BEEN
02:05:59.585 --> 02:06:01.253
SUBMITTED FOR INCLUSION IN THE
02:06:01.320 --> 02:06:02.788
IN THIS COMMITTEE HEARING AND
02:06:02.855 --> 02:06:04.556
THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY
02:06:04.623 --> 02:06:06.692
TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OF SENATOR
02:06:06.759 --> 02:06:08.494
WINNERS LEGISLATION SB.
02:06:08.560 --> 02:06:10.763
TWO TO ONE THANK YOU
02:06:10.829 --> 02:06:11.063
[inaudible]
02:06:11.130 --> 02:06:13.132
DESK.
02:06:13.198 --> 02:06:14.833
I AM SO AGAIN I WANT TO EXTEND
02:06:14.900 --> 02:06:16.168
MY THANKS TO THE CHAIR IN THE
02:06:16.235 --> 02:06:17.870
ASSEMBLY MEMBERS FOR HEARING US
02:06:17.937 --> 02:06:19.872
OUT TODAY --
02:06:19.939 --> 02:06:22.808
SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF MY PEERS --
02:06:22.875 --> 02:06:24.209
THE GUN EPIDEMIC IN THE UNITED
02:06:24.276 --> 02:06:26.211
STATES HAS ABSOLUTELY TAKEN ITS
02:06:26.278 --> 02:06:31.350
TOLL ON THE STUDENTS IN MY AREA.
02:06:31.417 --> 02:06:32.718
SCHOOL HEARING ABOUT.
02:06:32.785 --> 02:06:33.786
THE LEADER SHOOTING THAT'S
02:06:33.852 --> 02:06:35.387
HAPPENED IN THE COUNTRY WITHOUT
02:06:35.454 --> 02:06:37.656
JUST A SENSE OF ABSOLUTE AND
02:06:37.723 --> 02:06:39.558
PERVASIVE FEAR.
02:06:39.625 --> 02:06:41.627
IT EXISTS EVERY SINGLE TIME WE
02:06:41.694 --> 02:06:43.228
WALKED SEUSS'S ON TO CAMPUS
02:06:43.295 --> 02:06:44.363
EVERY SINGLE TIME WE WALK INTO
02:06:44.430 --> 02:06:46.198
OUR CLASSROOMS.
02:06:46.265 --> 02:06:48.534
IT'S THE IDEA OF GUNS AND
02:06:48.600 --> 02:06:49.835
KNOWING THAT GUNS ARE BEING
02:06:49.902 --> 02:06:52.738
OPENLY SOLD IN THE AREA AND THAT --
02:06:52.805 --> 02:06:54.239
PEOPLE HAVE ACCESS TO GUNS ARE
02:06:54.306 --> 02:06:55.541
BEING SOLD AT THE COW PALACE
02:06:55.607 --> 02:06:57.743
THAT THERE'S AN ACTIVE PROMOTION
02:06:57.810 --> 02:07:00.045
AND TOUTING OF THE IDEA THAT.
02:07:00.112 --> 02:07:01.747
GUNS ARE JUST THIS RIGHT THAT
02:07:01.814 --> 02:07:03.349
EVERYBODY HIGHS AND IF SOMEBODY
02:07:03.415 --> 02:07:05.284
WANTS TO WALK ON THE CAMPUS WITH
02:07:05.351 --> 02:07:06.852
A GUN THEY CAN EASILY GET IT.
02:07:06.919 --> 02:07:09.021
RIGHT NEAR THE SCHOOL ITS
02:07:09.088 --> 02:07:11.023
MINUTES AWAY FROM THREE
02:07:11.090 --> 02:07:12.858
DIFFERENT SCHOOL DISTRICTS OTHER
02:07:12.925 --> 02:07:13.993
COPPOLA'S WITH GUNS ARE SOLD
02:07:14.059 --> 02:07:15.027
INTO SEX WITH THREE DIFFERENT
02:07:15.094 --> 02:07:16.261
SCHOOL DISTRICTS.
02:07:16.328 --> 02:07:18.697
SERVING THOUSANDS OF KIDS AND
02:07:18.764 --> 02:07:20.566
NONE OF THEM FEEL SAFE WALKING
02:07:20.632 --> 02:07:22.201
ON THE CAMPUS --
02:07:22.267 --> 02:07:23.635
RECENTLY IN THE PAST YEAR WE'VE
02:07:23.702 --> 02:07:26.238
HAD AN INCREASE IN US SAFETY
02:07:26.305 --> 02:07:27.706
DRILLS ON OUR SCHOOL.
02:07:27.773 --> 02:07:29.608
AND IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO SIT THERE
02:07:29.675 --> 02:07:31.543
IN THE CLASSROOM HUDDLED IN THE
02:07:31.610 --> 02:07:32.978
CORNER WHILE THE TEACHERS
02:07:33.045 --> 02:07:34.480
TURNING THE LIGHTS OFF AND
02:07:34.546 --> 02:07:36.148
GRABBING A BAT FROM THE BACK OF
02:07:36.215 --> 02:07:37.116
THE CLASSROOM STANDING IN FRONT
02:07:37.182 --> 02:07:39.852
OF THE DOOR AND NOT IMAGINE. OH
02:07:39.918 --> 02:07:40.919
MY GOD.
02:07:40.986 --> 02:07:43.122
I COULD ABSOLUTELY BE THE NEXT.
02:07:43.188 --> 02:07:44.490
SCHOOL SHOOTING THIS COULD
02:07:44.556 --> 02:07:46.025
ABSOLUTELY BE THE NEXT NEWS
02:07:46.091 --> 02:07:48.127
HEADLINE THAT MY SCHOOL IS THE
02:07:48.193 --> 02:07:50.029
LEAD NEXT.
02:07:50.095 --> 02:07:51.563
ONE TO HAVE STUDENTS DIE IN A
02:07:51.630 --> 02:07:52.931
PLACE WHERE THE SUPPOSED TO FEEL
02:07:52.998 --> 02:07:53.599
SAFE AND FEEL EDUCATED
02:07:53.665 --> 02:07:53.899
[inaudible]
02:07:53.966 --> 02:07:58.470
IT'S TERRIFYING TO CONSIDER AND
02:07:58.537 --> 02:07:59.805
UNFORTUNATELY THAT'S THE REALITY
02:07:59.872 --> 02:08:01.974
WE LIVE IN AND KNOWING THAT
02:08:02.041 --> 02:08:04.476
THESE GUN SHOWS ARE CONTINUING.
02:08:04.543 --> 02:08:05.978
RIGHT MINUTES AWAY FROM WHERE
02:08:06.045 --> 02:08:07.179
KIDS ARE WALKING A LITTLE
02:08:07.246 --> 02:08:08.881
SIBLING SO SCHOOL OR EATING
02:08:08.947 --> 02:08:10.682
THEIR LUNCH IN THE CAFETERIA IS
02:08:10.749 --> 02:08:12.184
ATROCIOUS AND ASTOUNDING.
02:08:12.251 --> 02:08:13.452
AND THE STUDENTS IN OUR AREA
02:08:13.519 --> 02:08:15.154
HAVE ALREADY SPOKEN UP ABOUT IT
02:08:15.220 --> 02:08:16.121
THERE'S BEEN PROTEST BY THE HIGH
02:08:16.188 --> 02:08:17.556
SCHOOL IS IN OUR AREA SAYING
02:08:17.623 --> 02:08:18.323
THAT.
02:08:18.390 --> 02:08:19.591
THEY DON'T WANT TO SEE THESE
02:08:19.658 --> 02:08:20.959
GUNS BEING SOLD IN THEIR
02:08:21.026 --> 02:08:22.494
COMMUNITIES IN THEIR SCHOOLS
02:08:22.561 --> 02:08:23.829
NEAR THEIR SIBLINGS.
02:08:23.896 --> 02:08:25.330
NEAR THEIR STUDENTS AND HOW
02:08:25.397 --> 02:08:26.198
THEIR LIVES BEING PUT
02:08:26.265 --> 02:08:26.498
[inaudible]
02:08:26.565 --> 02:08:30.702
IN DANGER. FOR FOR NOTHING
02:08:30.769 --> 02:08:33.372
BASICALLY SO I SPEAK ON BEHALF
02:08:33.439 --> 02:08:34.773
OF THE STUDENTS WHO WE SAY WE
02:08:34.840 --> 02:08:36.175
HIGHLY HIGHLY URGE YOU TO
02:08:36.241 --> 02:08:37.309
CONSIDER PASSING THIS BILL SO
02:08:37.376 --> 02:08:37.709
THAT.
02:08:37.776 --> 02:08:39.244
WE KNOW THAT OUR LIVES ARE SAFE
02:08:39.311 --> 02:08:40.846
IN YOUR HANDS AND IN THE HANDS
02:08:40.913 --> 02:08:41.380
OF OUR TEACHERS AND IN OUR
02:08:41.447 --> 02:08:42.681
COMMUNITIES.
02:08:42.748 --> 02:08:45.217
THANK YOU THANK YOU.
02:08:45.284 --> 02:08:48.320
BOB BAILEY WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
02:08:48.387 --> 02:08:49.688
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS SPOILER IN
02:08:49.755 --> 02:08:50.589
BEHALF OF THE CITY AND COUNTY
02:08:50.656 --> 02:08:51.790
SAN FRANCISCO LONGSTANDING
02:08:51.857 --> 02:08:53.392
POLICY ON THIS --
02:08:53.459 --> 02:08:54.193
TO IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL AND
02:08:54.259 --> 02:08:55.461
APPRECIATES OUR WE ARE NOT
02:08:55.527 --> 02:08:57.029
LETTING GO OF THE ISSUE THANK
02:08:57.096 --> 02:08:57.362
YOU OR DRIVER.
02:08:57.429 --> 02:09:01.066
THANK.
02:09:01.133 --> 02:09:02.134
MISTER CHAIRMAN MEMBERS STACEY
02:09:02.201 --> 02:09:03.669
DOLL AND BEHALF OF THE BOARD OF
02:09:03.735 --> 02:09:05.237
SUPERVISORS THAT COUNTY OF SAN
02:09:05.304 --> 02:09:06.205
MATEO IN STRONG SUPPORT
02:09:06.271 --> 02:09:06.505
[inaudible]
02:09:06.572 --> 02:09:09.374
THANK YOU.
02:09:09.441 --> 02:09:11.110
CALVIN QUICK ON BEHALF OF BAY
02:09:11.176 --> 02:09:11.643
AREA STUDENT ACTIVISTS IN
02:09:11.710 --> 02:09:15.514
SUPPORT.
02:09:15.581 --> 02:09:17.483
I'M ERICA CARDOZO FROM JEFFERSON
02:09:17.549 --> 02:09:18.650
HIGH SCHOOL I'M ONE OF THE
02:09:18.717 --> 02:09:20.085
RESIDENTS THAT LIVE RIGHT BY
02:09:20.152 --> 02:09:21.854
BAYSHORE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL ALONG
02:09:21.920 --> 02:09:23.188
WITH HUNDREDS.
02:09:23.255 --> 02:09:24.323
AND HUNDREDS OF CHILDREN AND
02:09:24.389 --> 02:09:26.058
THEIR FAMILIES THAT ARE VERY
02:09:26.125 --> 02:09:28.160
CLOSE TO WHERE THESE ON YOUR
02:09:28.227 --> 02:09:29.728
NAME WEAPONS ARE BEING SOLD IN
02:09:29.795 --> 02:09:31.597
SHOWN I'M IN SUPPORT OF THIS
02:09:31.663 --> 02:09:31.797
BILL.
02:09:31.864 --> 02:09:33.432
OKAY THANK YOU.
02:09:33.499 --> 02:09:35.033
WELL CLEAN IS LAGGING I'M VICE
02:09:35.100 --> 02:09:35.634
PRESIDENT OF CHECHNYA HIGH
02:09:35.701 --> 02:09:37.302
SCHOOL DISHING ON BEHALF OF MY
02:09:37.369 --> 02:09:37.936
BOARD AND I STUDENTS WE SUPPORT
02:09:38.003 --> 02:09:38.237
[inaudible]
02:09:38.303 --> 02:09:39.905
THANK YOU.
02:09:39.972 --> 02:09:54.286
OUR ANY WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION.
02:09:54.353 --> 02:09:55.287
MISTER CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE
02:09:55.354 --> 02:09:56.321
COMMITTEE LOUIE BROWN ON BEHALF
02:09:56.388 --> 02:09:58.557
OF WESTERN FAIRS ASSOCIATION HOW
02:09:58.624 --> 02:09:59.925
WE REPRESENT.
02:09:59.992 --> 02:10:01.460
ALL THE SEVENTY EIGHT
02:10:01.527 --> 02:10:02.261
FAIRGROUNDS IN THE STATE OF
02:10:02.327 --> 02:10:03.529
CALIFORNIA INCLUDING THE COW
02:10:03.595 --> 02:10:05.197
PALACE --
02:10:05.264 --> 02:10:07.833
THIS IS A STATE OWNED FACILITY
02:10:07.900 --> 02:10:10.502
AS A HAS BEEN DISCUSSED IT IS
02:10:10.569 --> 02:10:12.871
ALSO OVERSEEN IN GOVERNED BY A
02:10:12.938 --> 02:10:14.540
BOARD OF DIRECTORS THAT ARE
02:10:14.606 --> 02:10:16.942
APPOINTED BY THE GOVERNOR. ONE
02:10:17.009 --> 02:10:18.610
OF THEIR MAIN RESPONSIBILITY IS
02:10:18.677 --> 02:10:20.379
THE UPKEEP AND MAINTENANCE OF
02:10:20.445 --> 02:10:22.781
THIS FACILITY WHICH IS DONE BY
02:10:22.848 --> 02:10:25.317
REVENUES FROM THE SHOWS.
02:10:25.384 --> 02:10:27.219
AND THE RENTALS THAT TAKE PLACE
02:10:27.286 --> 02:10:29.021
AT THE COW PALACE WHICH DOES
02:10:29.087 --> 02:10:31.623
INCLUDE GUN SHOWS --
02:10:31.690 --> 02:10:33.358
WE WE OPPOSE THIS BILL A FEW
02:10:33.425 --> 02:10:34.226
YEARS AGO WHEN CENTER LENO
02:10:34.293 --> 02:10:35.327
BROUGHT IT --
02:10:35.394 --> 02:10:37.095
FOR VERY SIMILAR PURPOSES AT
02:10:37.162 --> 02:10:39.131
THAT TIME THE STATE WAS ACTUALLY
02:10:39.198 --> 02:10:41.900
I HAD INVESTING ABOUT THIRTY TWO
02:10:41.967 --> 02:10:43.435
MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR INTO THE
02:10:43.502 --> 02:10:44.903
ENTIRE NETWORK AFFAIRS.
02:10:44.970 --> 02:10:46.104
SINCE THAT TIME --
02:10:46.171 --> 02:10:49.208
MOST OF THAT MONEY HAS GONE AWAY --
02:10:49.274 --> 02:10:51.910
LEAVING THE DID ASIANS
02:10:51.977 --> 02:10:53.412
THROUGHOUT THE STATE WITH THAT
02:10:53.478 --> 02:10:55.147
RESPONSIBILITY OF GENERATING THE
02:10:55.214 --> 02:10:56.448
REVENUE NECESSARY TO KEEP THEIR
02:10:56.515 --> 02:10:57.649
DOORS OPEN.
02:10:57.716 --> 02:10:59.484
AND AT THE SAME TIME NOT ONLY
02:10:59.551 --> 02:11:01.220
COVERING OPERATING EXPENSES --
02:11:01.286 --> 02:11:02.821
BUTTON DEFERRED MAINTENANCE AND
02:11:02.888 --> 02:11:04.323
NEEDS MOST FAIRGROUND IN THE
02:11:04.389 --> 02:11:06.058
STATE OF CALIFORNIA ALSO SERVICE
02:11:06.124 --> 02:11:07.292
EMERGENCY CENTERS.
02:11:07.359 --> 02:11:09.061
A DURING DISASTERS THE CAL
02:11:09.127 --> 02:11:10.963
PALACE AS AN EXAMPLE EYES FACING
02:11:11.029 --> 02:11:13.432
THE SITUATION WITH A ROOF THAT
02:11:13.498 --> 02:11:15.534
SEVERELY NEEDS REPAIR TO THE
02:11:15.601 --> 02:11:17.336
TUNE OF ABOUT SIX HUNDRED
02:11:17.402 --> 02:11:19.071
THOUSAND DOLLARS INCLUDING OTHER
02:11:19.137 --> 02:11:19.671
DEFERRED MAINTENANCE THAT THEY
02:11:19.738 --> 02:11:21.573
HAVE.
02:11:21.640 --> 02:11:23.308
THE STATE COMING IN AND TELLING
02:11:23.375 --> 02:11:25.577
THEM WHAT THEY CAN AND CANNOT DO
02:11:25.644 --> 02:11:28.447
IN TERMS OF REVENUE JUST SIMPLY
02:11:28.513 --> 02:11:30.015
TIES THE HANDS OF THAT BOARD OF
02:11:30.082 --> 02:11:31.750
DIRECTORS EVEN MORE THAN THEY
02:11:31.817 --> 02:11:33.018
HAVE RIGHT NOW.
02:11:33.085 --> 02:11:35.354
THIS IS IN OUR MIND NECESSARILY
02:11:35.420 --> 02:11:36.955
ABOUT GUN SHOWS ARE NOT.
02:11:37.022 --> 02:11:39.858
THIS IS ABOUT REVENUE FOR A
02:11:39.925 --> 02:11:41.526
STATE OWNED FACILITY THAT
02:11:41.593 --> 02:11:43.528
RECEIVES LITTLE TO NO ASSISTANCE
02:11:43.595 --> 02:11:44.830
FROM THE STATE SO THAT IT CAN
02:11:44.896 --> 02:11:46.632
EXIST TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES
02:11:46.698 --> 02:11:47.399
THAT.
02:11:47.466 --> 02:11:50.402
IT HAS UNDER STATUTE AND SO.
02:11:50.469 --> 02:11:52.337
WE'RE HAPPY TO TALK ABOUT THESE
02:11:52.404 --> 02:11:53.572
TYPES OF SITUATIONS BUT IF THE
02:11:53.639 --> 02:11:54.740
LEGISLATURE IS GOING TO MOVE
02:11:54.806 --> 02:11:57.109
FORWARD AND START TO DICTATE
02:11:57.175 --> 02:11:59.244
WHAT CAN AND CANNOT HAPPEN ON A
02:11:59.311 --> 02:12:00.746
STATE OWNED FACILITY.
02:12:00.812 --> 02:12:01.813
THEN WE WOULD ASK THAT THEY AT
02:12:01.880 --> 02:12:03.949
THE SAME TIME COME FORWARD WITH
02:12:04.016 --> 02:12:05.384
THE NECESSARY FUNDING.
02:12:05.450 --> 02:12:08.287
THAT REPLACES THOSE DOLLARS SO
02:12:08.353 --> 02:12:09.721
THAT THESE BUILDINGS THESE
02:12:09.788 --> 02:12:11.723
FACILITIES CAN CONTINUE TO EXIST
02:12:11.790 --> 02:12:14.059
OTHERWISE YOU PUT THE BOARD OF
02:12:14.126 --> 02:12:15.927
DIRECTORS A VERY DIFFICULT
02:12:15.994 --> 02:12:17.429
POSITION.
02:12:17.496 --> 02:12:19.464
OF OF BEING.
02:12:19.531 --> 02:12:21.600
BEEN CONSTRAINED ON WHAT THEY
02:12:21.667 --> 02:12:23.168
CAN ACTUALLY DO TO KEEP THESE
02:12:23.235 --> 02:12:25.704
FACILITIES OPEN THEREFORE WERE
02:12:25.771 --> 02:12:28.707
OPPOSED AT THIS TIME THANK YOU.
02:12:28.774 --> 02:12:29.975
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIRMAN NOT
02:12:30.042 --> 02:12:31.710
CAPULETS REPRESENTING CROSSROADS
02:12:31.777 --> 02:12:33.045
OF THE WEST --
02:12:33.111 --> 02:12:33.679
WE WORKED --
02:12:33.745 --> 02:12:36.114
GOING BACK TO NINETEEN NINETY
02:12:36.181 --> 02:12:37.916
NINE WAS SENATOR CORBETT ON
02:12:37.983 --> 02:12:39.584
LANDMARK LEGISLATION IN THE
02:12:39.651 --> 02:12:40.986
STATE OF CALIFORNIA REGULATING
02:12:41.053 --> 02:12:43.722
GUN SHOWS IT IT TODAY IS.
02:12:43.789 --> 02:12:45.557
CONSIDERED REALLY THE PRIDE OF
02:12:45.624 --> 02:12:47.559
THE COUNTRY IN TERMS OF GUN SHOW
02:12:47.626 --> 02:12:49.261
MANAGEMENT I'M PROUD TO SAY THAT
02:12:49.328 --> 02:12:51.396
THERE HAVEN'T BEEN INCIDENTS AT
02:12:51.463 --> 02:12:53.198
GUN SHOWS IN CALIFORNIA.
02:12:53.265 --> 02:12:55.367
THE COW PALACE FACILITY ON WITH
02:12:55.434 --> 02:12:57.302
THE SHOW ON EXISTS BRINGS IN
02:12:57.369 --> 02:12:59.237
NUMBER SEVEN HUNDRED THIRTY
02:12:59.304 --> 02:13:01.006
THOUSAND DOLLARS ANNUALLY --
02:13:01.073 --> 02:13:02.974
IN AND OUT YEAR SIX HUNDRED
02:13:03.041 --> 02:13:04.242
THOUSAND DOLLARS --
02:13:04.309 --> 02:13:07.579
FOR THE SHOW THAT.
02:13:07.646 --> 02:13:09.481
YOU KNOW ALL THE ADDED COSTS OF
02:13:09.548 --> 02:13:11.783
CONCESSIONS AND OTHER THINGS I
02:13:11.850 --> 02:13:13.251
MIGHT POINT NOW --
02:13:13.318 --> 02:13:14.419
I THINK IT'S A MISNOMER TO
02:13:14.486 --> 02:13:17.089
SUGGEST THAT YOU WALK INTO A GUN
02:13:17.155 --> 02:13:18.990
SHOW WALK OUT WITH A GUN --
02:13:19.057 --> 02:13:20.492
BAIT BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
02:13:20.559 --> 02:13:21.860
WE MADE SURE OF WHEN WE PASSED
02:13:21.927 --> 02:13:23.362
THE ORIGINAL STATUTE WAS THAT
02:13:23.428 --> 02:13:26.064
YOU COMPLY WITH ALL THE LAWS OF
02:13:26.131 --> 02:13:27.833
CALIFORNIA SO WE HAVE WAITING
02:13:27.899 --> 02:13:29.701
PERIODS IN CALIFORNIA SO.
02:13:29.768 --> 02:13:32.437
OF FIREARMS DO NOT GONNA.
02:13:32.504 --> 02:13:34.339
TO OUT THE SHOW PER SE YOU MAY
02:13:34.406 --> 02:13:36.208
START A WAITING PERIOD BUT YOU
02:13:36.274 --> 02:13:38.110
CANNOT COMPLETE THE TRANSACTION
02:13:38.176 --> 02:13:39.945
THERE SO ALL THE LAWS ARE
02:13:40.011 --> 02:13:41.046
COMPLIED WITH.
02:13:41.113 --> 02:13:42.547
THE SHOWS OPERATE ON THE WEEKEND
02:13:42.614 --> 02:13:44.950
WHEN SCHOOLS ARE NOT IN SESSION
02:13:45.016 --> 02:13:46.351
AND WE WOULD ALSO ARGUE THAT
02:13:46.418 --> 02:13:48.186
THIS IS REALLY A FIRST AMENDMENT
02:13:48.253 --> 02:13:49.554
ISSUE AS WELL THIS OF STATE
02:13:49.621 --> 02:13:50.889
OWNED PROPERTIES.
02:13:50.956 --> 02:13:53.225
WHERE LEGAL ACTIVITIES GO ON --
02:13:53.291 --> 02:13:54.693
WENT CENTER LENO CARRIED THE
02:13:54.760 --> 02:13:56.595
BILL I KNOW WE HAD A VERY --
02:13:56.661 --> 02:13:58.597
INTERACTIVE CONVERSATION ABOUT
02:13:58.663 --> 02:14:00.432
THE TYPES OF ACTIVITIES THAT GO
02:14:00.499 --> 02:14:02.634
ON AT THE COW PALACE ON AND IT'S
02:14:02.701 --> 02:14:04.936
VERY DIVERSE AND WE CERTAINLY
02:14:05.003 --> 02:14:07.105
SUPPORT THAT BUT IF TAXPAYERS
02:14:07.172 --> 02:14:08.273
DOLLARS ARE GOING TO BE INVOLVED
02:14:08.340 --> 02:14:10.008
AND ALL LEGAL ACTIVITIES SHOULD
02:14:10.075 --> 02:14:11.243
BE AUTHORIZED IF THEY'RE
02:14:11.309 --> 02:14:12.244
COMPLYING.
02:14:12.310 --> 02:14:14.780
WITH THE LAWS OF THE FACILITY.
02:14:14.846 --> 02:14:17.282
WOULD ALSO SAY UP LASTLY THAT UC
02:14:17.349 --> 02:14:18.617
DAVIS --
02:14:18.683 --> 02:14:20.419
CONDUCTED A STUDY ON GUN SHOWS
02:14:20.485 --> 02:14:21.887
IN CALIFORNIA --
02:14:21.953 --> 02:14:22.954
KAREN WHEN A MUTE WHO IS
02:14:23.021 --> 02:14:25.757
SPONSORED SECOND AMENDMENT PER
02:14:25.824 --> 02:14:26.858
SE.
02:14:26.925 --> 02:14:28.026
BUT FOUND THAT THE GUN SHOWS IN
02:14:28.093 --> 02:14:30.162
CALIFORNIA WERE ACTUALLY BY HIS
02:14:30.228 --> 02:14:32.564
DEFINITION BORING BECAUSE THEY
02:14:32.631 --> 02:14:34.332
THEY WERE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE
02:14:34.399 --> 02:14:35.867
LAW AND THAT THE WERE NOT
02:14:35.934 --> 02:14:37.636
ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES GOING ON SO
02:14:37.702 --> 02:14:39.371
WE WE OPPOSE THIS BILL.
02:14:39.438 --> 02:14:41.206
AND THINK TIME IS BETTER SPENT
02:14:41.273 --> 02:14:42.207
ON SOME OF THE SCHOOL SAFETY
02:14:42.274 --> 02:14:44.676
MAJORS THAT ARE MOVING THROUGH
02:14:44.743 --> 02:14:46.545
THE LEGISLATURE THANK YOU.
02:14:46.611 --> 02:14:47.913
THANK YOU OR ANY OTHER WITNESSES
02:14:47.979 --> 02:14:50.682
IN OPPOSITION MAN ORGANIZATION.
02:14:50.749 --> 02:14:52.517
A CRADLE LOSE ABOUT THE FIREARMS
02:14:52.584 --> 02:14:54.152
POLICY COALITION --
02:14:54.219 --> 02:14:55.187
IN OPPOSITION IF I IF I MIGHT
02:14:55.253 --> 02:14:58.356
JUST HAVE JUST. ONE MORE WORK GO
02:14:58.423 --> 02:14:59.357
OUT WHEN I THINK THAT WOULD NOTE
02:14:59.424 --> 02:15:00.392
IS IS THAT IT'S ALREADY BEEN
02:15:00.459 --> 02:15:01.927
NOTED BY BOTH THE AUTHOR AND BY
02:15:01.993 --> 02:15:03.195
ONE OF THE PEOPLE TESTIFYING
02:15:03.261 --> 02:15:04.629
THAT YOU OF LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES
02:15:04.696 --> 02:15:05.797
ARE BASICALLY SAYING.
02:15:05.864 --> 02:15:07.098
WE'RE GOING TO DENY YOU THE
02:15:07.165 --> 02:15:08.266
ABILITY TO EXERCISE A
02:15:08.333 --> 02:15:10.101
CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT YOU CAN OWN
02:15:10.168 --> 02:15:11.703
A GUN YOU JUST CAN'T.
02:15:11.770 --> 02:15:13.138
PURCHASE A GUN AND NOW WE'RE
02:15:13.205 --> 02:15:15.006
GOING TO LIMIT THE ONLY ABILITY
02:15:15.073 --> 02:15:16.341
THE ONLY WAY IN WHICH SOMEONE
02:15:16.408 --> 02:15:17.676
CAN OBTAIN WILL BE ABLE TO
02:15:17.742 --> 02:15:18.944
FACILITATE OR EXERCISE THEIR
02:15:19.010 --> 02:15:20.078
CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO KEEP AND
02:15:20.145 --> 02:15:20.779
BEAR ARMS.
02:15:20.846 --> 02:15:22.147
WITHIN THAT WITHIN THIS
02:15:22.214 --> 02:15:23.448
PARTICULAR AREA --
02:15:23.515 --> 02:15:25.650
WE SEE THIS AS A MAJOR PROBLEM
02:15:25.717 --> 02:15:28.186
THEREFORE WE OPPOSE THANK YOU.
02:15:28.253 --> 02:15:29.588
MISTER CHAIRMAN MEMBERS SAMPRAS
02:15:29.654 --> 02:15:31.022
OF REPRESENT GUNS CALIFORNIA
02:15:31.089 --> 02:15:32.691
ENABLE ORGANIZATION.
02:15:32.757 --> 02:15:34.125
AND A BIG PORTION I'M JUST
02:15:34.192 --> 02:15:35.694
STATING OR REPRESENTING.
02:15:35.760 --> 02:15:37.262
SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THE
02:15:37.329 --> 02:15:38.363
THIRTY NINE POINT EIGHT A
02:15:38.430 --> 02:15:39.664
MILLION PEOPLE WHO ARE RESIDENTS
02:15:39.731 --> 02:15:41.733
AND OWNERS OF THE CAL PALACE IN
02:15:41.800 --> 02:15:42.968
STRONG OPPOSITION OF THIS BILL.
02:15:43.034 --> 02:15:46.404
THANK YOU SAM.
02:15:46.471 --> 02:15:47.239
OR CHAIRMAN FOR THE RECORD DAN
02:15:47.305 --> 02:15:48.373
REED WITH NATIONAL RIFLE
02:15:48.440 --> 02:15:51.443
ASSOCIATION OPPOSITION THANK YOU.
02:15:51.510 --> 02:15:51.910
CHAIRMAN ROY GROUP THE
02:15:51.977 --> 02:15:53.478
CALIFORNIA RIFLE ASSOCIATION
02:15:53.545 --> 02:15:54.679
OPPOSITION SPEAK ON BEHALF OF
02:15:54.746 --> 02:15:55.881
OUR THOUSANDS OF MEMBERS WHO
02:15:55.947 --> 02:15:57.015
LIVE IN SAN FRANCISCO SAN MATEO
02:15:57.082 --> 02:15:57.582
COUNTY THANK YOU [inaudible]
02:15:57.649 --> 02:15:59.551
THANK YOU.
02:15:59.618 --> 02:16:00.986
MISTER CHAIR TIM MCMAHON I WAS
02:16:01.052 --> 02:16:02.721
AT THE COW PALACE TEN DAYS AGO
02:16:02.787 --> 02:16:05.724
AND I COLLECTED ONE THOUSAND
02:16:05.790 --> 02:16:06.358
EIGHT HUNDRED NINETY SIX SIGNED
02:16:06.424 --> 02:16:08.827
LETTERS AGAINST THIS BILL.
02:16:08.894 --> 02:16:10.862
THANK YOU FOR YOUR NO VOTE ON
02:16:10.929 --> 02:16:13.732
THANK YOU SIR.
02:16:13.798 --> 02:16:15.400
ANY QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE
02:16:15.467 --> 02:16:18.837
MEMBERS MISTER QUIRK --
02:16:18.904 --> 02:16:21.039
SO MY MY CONCERN AND THE REASON
02:16:21.106 --> 02:16:22.607
WHY WON'T BE SUPPORTING YOUR
02:16:22.674 --> 02:16:23.675
BILL.
02:16:23.742 --> 02:16:25.510
IS THAT I JUST FEEL THAT THIS
02:16:25.577 --> 02:16:28.280
ARM.
02:16:28.346 --> 02:16:32.284
THIS IS A SITUATION WHERE ALL
02:16:32.350 --> 02:16:34.886
THE LAWS ARE OBSERVED --
02:16:34.953 --> 02:16:37.289
AND IF PEOPLE DON'T BUY A GUN
02:16:37.355 --> 02:16:38.790
HERE I'M WORRIED THAT THEY WILL
02:16:38.857 --> 02:16:40.959
BUY A GUN IN THE PLACE WHERE ALL
02:16:41.026 --> 02:16:42.827
THOSE LAWS AREN'T OBSERVED.
02:16:42.894 --> 02:16:44.062
I SUPPORTED DAD
02:16:44.129 --> 02:16:47.532
DECRIMINALIZATION OF DRUGS OF
02:16:47.599 --> 02:16:49.067
PROSTITUTION.
02:16:49.134 --> 02:16:51.770
ARE AT CENTER AND THIS TO ME IS
02:16:51.836 --> 02:16:53.772
YOU NOW WE OUGHT TO HAVE THINGS
02:16:53.838 --> 02:16:54.906
IN THE OPEN.
02:16:54.973 --> 02:16:56.441
WHERE THE CONTROL TO NOT ALLOW
02:16:56.508 --> 02:16:58.410
THEM TO GO UNDERGROUND AND I'M
02:16:58.476 --> 02:17:00.679
CONCERNED THAT BY?
02:17:00.745 --> 02:17:02.147
UP PROHIBITING.
02:17:02.213 --> 02:17:05.417
A SITUATION WHERE ALL THE LAWS
02:17:05.483 --> 02:17:07.152
ARE OBSERVED WHERE EVERYTHING IS
02:17:07.218 --> 02:17:09.020
TAKEN CARE OF THE THINGS GO
02:17:09.087 --> 02:17:10.422
UNDERGROUND AND I JUST CAN'T
02:17:10.488 --> 02:17:11.556
SUPPORT THAT [inaudible]
02:17:11.623 --> 02:17:13.091
THANK YOU [inaudible]
02:17:13.158 --> 02:17:15.193
THANK YOU.
02:17:15.260 --> 02:17:16.194
UP IN NEW MAKE [inaudible]
02:17:16.261 --> 02:17:18.863
GOOD.
02:17:18.930 --> 02:17:20.231
OUR THANK YOU VERY MUCH AYE MR
02:17:20.298 --> 02:17:22.601
CHAIRMAN AND I DO WHAT IS NOTE
02:17:22.667 --> 02:17:23.401
THAT --
02:17:23.468 --> 02:17:24.202
BECAUSE THERE WAS A NUMBER
02:17:24.269 --> 02:17:26.404
THROWN OUT BEFORE ABOUT --
02:17:26.471 --> 02:17:28.740
REVENUE BY THE KELP PALACE HAS
02:17:28.807 --> 02:17:30.609
TOLD US THAT THEIR ANNUAL
02:17:30.675 --> 02:17:31.910
REVENUE FROM THE GUN SHOWS IS
02:17:31.977 --> 02:17:32.978
SOMEWHERE.
02:17:33.044 --> 02:17:35.380
IN THE 1-002-002-5000 DOLLAR
02:17:35.447 --> 02:17:37.415
RANGE THAT'S OUT OF FOUR POINT
02:17:37.482 --> 02:17:39.017
FIVE MILLION DOLLARS IN REVENUE
02:17:39.084 --> 02:17:40.552
SO IT IS SOMETHING I'M NOT
02:17:40.619 --> 02:17:43.121
DISMISSING THA NUMBER BUT IT IS
02:17:43.188 --> 02:17:44.956
A TINY PERCENTAGE OF A CAL
02:17:45.023 --> 02:17:47.459
PALACES -- I
02:17:47.525 --> 02:17:49.628
AM I AM CONFIDENT THEY CAN MAKE
02:17:49.694 --> 02:17:52.497
THAT OUT I WILL ALSO SAY THAT --
02:17:52.564 --> 02:17:54.566
THE COW PALACE HAS OWNS A LOT OF
02:17:54.633 --> 02:17:56.635
LANDS AND OTHER CITY OF DALY
02:17:56.701 --> 02:17:58.737
CITY FOR YEARS HAS BEEN TRYING
02:17:58.803 --> 02:18:00.772
TO WORK WITH THE CAL PALACE. ONE
02:18:00.839 --> 02:18:03.074
SOME REDEVELOPMENT OF THAT LAND
02:18:03.141 --> 02:18:04.476
THAT'S NOT REALLY BEING USED FOR
02:18:04.542 --> 02:18:05.677
VERY MUCH --
02:18:05.744 --> 02:18:06.578
RIGHT NOW --
02:18:06.645 --> 02:18:07.679
TO TRY TO WORK WITH THE LOCAL
02:18:07.746 --> 02:18:09.014
COMMUNITY THERE ARE MANY REVENUE
02:18:09.080 --> 02:18:11.449
OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE KALPOE US --
02:18:11.516 --> 02:18:12.651
AND I KNOW THAT --
02:18:12.717 --> 02:18:13.952
ASSEMBLYMAN --
02:18:14.019 --> 02:18:16.321
TING MY CO AUTHOR AND I ARE IN
02:18:16.388 --> 02:18:17.355
CONVERSATION WITH THEM WE WANT
02:18:17.422 --> 02:18:19.724
TO BE HELPFUL IN FACILITATING.
02:18:19.791 --> 02:18:21.459
AYE THOSE CONVERSATIONS YOU KNOW
02:18:21.526 --> 02:18:23.762
ARE IN THE AND THIS IS ABOUT --
02:18:23.828 --> 02:18:26.531
LOCAL COMMUNITIES HAVING THE
02:18:26.598 --> 02:18:28.833
ABILITY --
02:18:28.900 --> 02:18:30.035
TO TO PROTECT THEMSELVES TO
02:18:30.101 --> 02:18:32.337
PROTECT OUR STUDENTS AND OUR
02:18:32.404 --> 02:18:33.872
THAT THEY CAN'T DO THAT HERE SO
02:18:33.938 --> 02:18:35.774
WE NEED TO DO IT FOR THEM AND I
02:18:35.840 --> 02:18:36.841
RESPECT.
02:18:36.908 --> 02:18:38.009
AWESOME AND QUIRKS ARE CONCERNED
02:18:38.076 --> 02:18:39.544
I I I DON'T THINK THAT
02:18:39.611 --> 02:18:42.280
ELIMINATING A ONE GUN SHOW --
02:18:42.347 --> 02:18:44.182
IN ONE LOCATION IS GONNA --
02:18:44.249 --> 02:18:45.717
BECAUSE THAT THAT HAPPENED BUT I
02:18:45.784 --> 02:18:46.985
COLLEAGUES I RESPECTFULLY ASK
02:18:47.052 --> 02:18:47.719
YOUR AYE VOTE [inaudible]
02:18:47.786 --> 02:18:49.521
BIG.
02:18:49.587 --> 02:18:56.294
NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND.
02:18:56.361 --> 02:19:01.366
OKAY OF SO I I SOME NEW SUPPORT
02:19:01.433 --> 02:19:03.301
IT BASED ON ON THE FOLLOWING --
02:19:03.368 --> 02:19:05.503
WE WENT TO A LONG DRAWN OUT
02:19:05.570 --> 02:19:05.804
[inaudible]
02:19:05.870 --> 02:19:08.339
ON DISCUSSION.
02:19:08.406 --> 02:19:09.407
MEMBERS TO CORP REMINDING ME
02:19:09.474 --> 02:19:11.576
ABOUT BUT CANNABIS.
02:19:11.643 --> 02:19:13.611
AND ONE OF THE REMAIN LYNCH PINS
02:19:13.678 --> 02:19:14.979
TO GETTING IT APPROVED
02:19:15.046 --> 02:19:15.280
[inaudible]
02:19:15.346 --> 02:19:18.750
AND AUTHORIZED OR LEGALIZE
02:19:18.817 --> 02:19:20.285
WHATEVER.
02:19:20.351 --> 02:19:22.220
YOU WANT TO CALL IT MEDICAL AND
02:19:22.287 --> 02:19:24.089
DON'T USE.
02:19:24.155 --> 02:19:24.889
SO DISCUSSION ABOUT LOCAL
02:19:24.956 --> 02:19:26.591
CONTROL [inaudible]
02:19:26.658 --> 02:19:30.562
AND I THINK A LOT OF US VOTED
02:19:30.628 --> 02:19:32.163
FOR IT BECAUSE HE WANTED ALLOW
02:19:32.230 --> 02:19:33.298
LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES WHERE CITY
02:19:33.364 --> 02:19:35.934
OR COUNTY. TO MAKE THE DECISION.
02:19:36.000 --> 02:19:38.470
ARM WHAT GOES ON INNER CITY.
02:19:38.536 --> 02:19:40.271
I'M HEARING FROM YOU THAT BOTH
02:19:40.338 --> 02:19:42.373
THE LOCAL ENTITIES --
02:19:42.440 --> 02:19:44.843
WANT TO PROHIBIT --
02:19:44.909 --> 02:19:45.777
MEANS A LOT EXPECTS FREMONT FROM
02:19:45.844 --> 02:19:47.912
LOS ANGELES THE CONVENTION
02:19:47.979 --> 02:19:50.682
CENTER IN LOS ANGELES HIS OWN.
02:19:50.749 --> 02:19:52.650
BY CITY LOS ANGELES AND I DON'T
02:19:52.717 --> 02:19:54.018
BELIEVE I'LL DOUBLE CHECK.
02:19:54.085 --> 02:19:55.320
THAT.
02:19:55.386 --> 02:19:56.221
AND I PROBABLY WILL GET
02:19:56.287 --> 02:19:58.089
CORRECTED IF I'M WRONG --
02:19:58.156 --> 02:20:01.259
BUT WE'LL HAVE A WHOLE LOT A GUN
02:20:01.326 --> 02:20:01.860
SHOWS IF I DON'T THINK WE HAVE
02:20:01.926 --> 02:20:02.994
IT.
02:20:03.061 --> 02:20:05.730
AND IF WE DON'T IS BECAUSE THE
02:20:05.797 --> 02:20:06.931
CITY COUNCIL ITS DECIDED.
02:20:06.998 --> 02:20:09.701
THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY --
02:20:09.768 --> 02:20:11.970
GUN SHOOTS GUN SHOWS IF WE
02:20:12.036 --> 02:20:13.571
DIDN'T PASS I'M PRETTY SURE.
02:20:13.638 --> 02:20:15.907
BY BE SPEAKING NOW THE MACE THEY
02:20:15.974 --> 02:20:18.209
MAY STOP IT IN THE FUTURE
02:20:18.276 --> 02:20:18.510
[inaudible]
02:20:18.576 --> 02:20:20.645
A THAT AND I THINK IT IS
02:20:20.712 --> 02:20:22.814
IMPORTANT FOR US TO LISTEN TO
02:20:22.881 --> 02:20:23.648
THE LOCAL PEOPLE THIS IS A
02:20:23.715 --> 02:20:25.416
UNIQUE SITUATION WHERE THE STATE
02:20:25.483 --> 02:20:27.652
OWNED SOMETHING.
02:20:27.719 --> 02:20:29.921
THAT IS IN THE LOCAL AREA EVEN
02:20:29.988 --> 02:20:30.655
THOUGH I WE ALSO HAVE
02:20:30.722 --> 02:20:30.955
[inaudible]
02:20:31.022 --> 02:20:33.858
THE THE COLISEUM IN MY DISTRICT
02:20:33.925 --> 02:20:36.661
WHICH IS A ACT DISTRICT ALSO AND
02:20:36.728 --> 02:20:38.196
I DON'T THINK WE DO HAVE A LARGE.
02:20:38.263 --> 02:20:39.831
PUBLIC WILL EVER HAVE A LARGE
02:20:39.898 --> 02:20:41.366
GUN SHOW IN THE COLISEUM.
02:20:41.432 --> 02:20:44.068
OF SO WITH THAT NAM I'M URGING
02:20:44.135 --> 02:20:47.172
AN AYE VOTE BASED ON WHAT
02:20:47.238 --> 02:20:47.472
[inaudible]
02:20:47.539 --> 02:20:50.141
LOCAL INDIVIDUALS WHAT.
02:20:50.208 --> 02:20:51.643
THEN TO HAVE A NICK IN THERE IN
02:20:51.709 --> 02:20:52.510
AREA.
02:20:52.577 --> 02:21:01.085
OF YES DOES.
02:21:01.152 --> 02:21:02.887
THIS I'D FOR ME IS MORE OF LOCAL
02:21:02.954 --> 02:21:04.856
CONTROL.
02:21:04.923 --> 02:21:05.824
AND WE ACTUALLY SHE BE CONCERNED
02:21:05.890 --> 02:21:08.092
ABOUT GUN VIOLENCE AND DECIDE
02:21:08.159 --> 02:21:08.960
NATURE AND I THINK THE
02:21:09.027 --> 02:21:10.328
OPPOSITION HAS A GOOD POINT THAT
02:21:10.395 --> 02:21:11.596
WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO WORK.
02:21:11.663 --> 02:21:13.598
ON SCHOOL SAFETY IT'S SAFETY IN
02:21:13.665 --> 02:21:15.333
OUR COMMUNITIES AND NOT STOP ON
02:21:15.400 --> 02:21:17.535
THAT AND DISS SO.
02:21:17.602 --> 02:21:19.838
THIS THIS IS REALLY ABOUT FOR ME
02:21:19.904 --> 02:21:20.972
A LOCAL CONTROL WITH THAT
02:21:21.039 --> 02:21:23.641
CULTURAL.
02:21:23.708 --> 02:21:24.742
ON S. B. TO TWENTY ONE THE
02:21:24.809 --> 02:21:25.710
MOTION IS TO PASS TO BE
02:21:25.777 --> 02:21:27.045
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE JONES
02:21:27.111 --> 02:21:28.880
SAWYER AYE AYE JONES SAWYER AYE
02:21:28.947 --> 02:21:30.481
LACKEY.
02:21:30.548 --> 02:21:33.051
LACKEY NOCAUTEADO GALILEO AYE
02:21:33.117 --> 02:21:34.619
KAMLAGER-DOVE.
02:21:34.686 --> 02:21:36.387
KAMLAGER-DOVE I KILEY.
02:21:36.454 --> 02:21:39.490
KILEY NO QUIRK.
02:21:39.557 --> 02:21:41.759
QUIRK NOT BOATING SANTIAGO.
02:21:41.826 --> 02:21:42.660
THE BILL IS ON CALL [inaudible]
02:21:42.727 --> 02:21:45.163
IF YOU.
02:21:45.230 --> 02:21:46.731
I MISSED HIM I'M BEING SUMMONED
02:21:46.798 --> 02:21:48.032
TO THE SENATE ENERGY COMMITTEE
02:21:48.099 --> 02:21:49.834
ABOUT THE SHUTDOWN SO COULD I
02:21:49.901 --> 02:21:51.369
PRESENT MY SECOND BILL.
02:21:51.436 --> 02:21:53.872
AFTER OTHER BILLS --
02:21:53.938 --> 02:21:54.906
OR IT IS THE LAST ONE IS.
02:21:54.973 --> 02:21:56.241
IF YOU.
02:21:56.307 --> 02:21:57.675
I THINK WE BUILD THIS QUICKLY
02:21:57.742 --> 02:21:59.210
OKAY GO [inaudible]
02:21:59.277 --> 02:22:01.279
I'M.
02:22:01.346 --> 02:22:04.315
MOVE THE BELL SECOND.
02:22:04.382 --> 02:22:10.154
YOU HAVE THE VOTES YOU HAD NO GO.
02:22:10.221 --> 02:22:11.923
I HAVE I WOULD ASK FOR YOUR AYE
02:22:11.990 --> 02:22:13.858
VOTE IN US I'M MAKING SURE
02:22:13.925 --> 02:22:15.560
PROTECTING THE CIVIL RIGHTS OF
02:22:15.627 --> 02:22:17.328
TRANSGENDER INCARCERATED
02:22:17.395 --> 02:22:17.929
INDIVIDUALS RIGHT NOW WHO ARE
02:22:17.996 --> 02:22:19.097
SOMETIMES.
02:22:19.163 --> 02:22:20.398
PLACED IN --
02:22:20.465 --> 02:22:22.433
ISOLATION AND NOT DUE TO THEIR
02:22:22.500 --> 02:22:23.902
OWN BEHAVIOR.
02:22:23.968 --> 02:22:24.969
BUT FOR THEIR OWN PROTECTION
02:22:25.036 --> 02:22:27.372
BECAUSE WE ARE MISS CLASSIFYING
02:22:27.438 --> 02:22:28.840
A PRISONERS AND HOUSING THEM
02:22:28.907 --> 02:22:30.441
INCORRECTLY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT
02:22:30.508 --> 02:22:32.510
ACCESS TO SERVICES AUDIT THEY
02:22:32.577 --> 02:22:33.444
ARE TREATED WITH RESPECT AND
02:22:33.511 --> 02:22:34.646
THAT'S WHAT THIS BILL DOES AND I
02:22:34.712 --> 02:22:36.881
RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR AYE VOTE.
02:22:36.948 --> 02:22:38.416
YOU HAVE A FIRST AND SECOND VOTE.
02:22:38.483 --> 02:22:39.217
GOOD MORNING MISTER CHAIR AND
02:22:39.284 --> 02:22:40.385
COMMITTEE MEMBERS JOHN MICHAEL
02:22:40.451 --> 02:22:41.352
FOR EQUALITY CALIFORNIA WE'RE
02:22:41.419 --> 02:22:42.787
PROUD TO BE A CO SPONSOR OF THIS
02:22:42.854 --> 02:22:44.422
MEASURE I WAS GONNA SAY MORE BUT
02:22:44.489 --> 02:22:45.556
I WILL NOT WE THANK SENATOR
02:22:45.623 --> 02:22:47.258
WIENER FOR BRINGING IT FORWARD --
02:22:47.325 --> 02:22:47.992
I'LL ALSO STATE THE CO
02:22:48.059 --> 02:22:49.127
SPONSORSHIP OF BLAMES ILLEGAL
02:22:49.193 --> 02:22:50.328
WHO IS NOT ABLE TO BE HERE TODAY
02:22:50.395 --> 02:22:51.796
AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
02:22:51.863 --> 02:22:52.463
QUESTIONS THAT COME UP THANK YOU.
02:22:52.530 --> 02:22:55.700
YES.
02:22:55.767 --> 02:22:57.001
THANK YOU TERRY MEMBERS OF THE
02:22:57.068 --> 02:22:58.269
COMMITTEE MY NAME IS KELLY LEAVE
02:22:58.336 --> 02:23:00.004
DENSMORE AND I'M THE LEGAL
02:23:00.071 --> 02:23:01.239
DIRECTOR.
02:23:01.306 --> 02:23:02.307
AT THE TRANSGENDER GENDER
02:23:02.373 --> 02:23:04.342
VARIANT IN A SEX JUSTICE PROJECT
02:23:04.409 --> 02:23:04.976
AND WE'RE ALSO A CO SPONSOR OF
02:23:05.043 --> 02:23:06.044
THE BILL.
02:23:06.110 --> 02:23:07.679
AND I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR
02:23:07.745 --> 02:23:09.514
AYE VOTE PERFECT.
02:23:09.580 --> 02:23:10.915
ANY WITNESSES SUPPORT NAME UP
02:23:10.982 --> 02:23:12.517
ORGANIZATION NATASHA MINSKER A
02:23:12.583 --> 02:23:14.319
SO YOU OF CALIFORNIA ALSO A CO
02:23:14.385 --> 02:23:17.388
SPONSOR AND SUPPORT.
02:23:17.455 --> 02:23:18.022
JERRY DOYLE ON BEHALF OF THE
02:23:18.089 --> 02:23:19.524
CONGRESS THE CALIFORNIA BAR
02:23:19.590 --> 02:23:22.860
ASSOCIATIONS AND SUPPORT.
02:23:22.927 --> 02:23:24.595
ERIC ANDERSON FROM THE ELLA
02:23:24.662 --> 02:23:25.196
BAKER CENTER FOR HUMAN RIGHTS
02:23:25.263 --> 02:23:28.666
SUPPORT.
02:23:28.733 --> 02:23:29.133
WOODS IRVINE WITH THE
02:23:29.200 --> 02:23:30.702
TRANSGENDER CHEN EVANDER SEX
02:23:30.768 --> 02:23:34.105
JUSTICE PROJECT IN SUPPORT.
02:23:34.172 --> 02:23:34.906
ANGELIQUE YORK NATIONAL
02:23:34.973 --> 02:23:35.974
ASSOCIATION OF SOCIAL WORKERS IN
02:23:36.040 --> 02:23:39.577
SUPPORT.
02:23:39.644 --> 02:23:50.088
AND WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION.
02:23:50.154 --> 02:23:50.989
GOOD MORNING MISTER CHAIR
02:23:51.055 --> 02:23:51.856
MEMBERS WHO SHALL MUCH TRIBE
02:23:51.923 --> 02:23:52.824
HAVE TO CALIFORNIA STATE
02:23:52.890 --> 02:23:54.459
SHERIFFS ASSOCIATION.
02:23:54.525 --> 02:23:56.461
SPEC WE IN OPPOSITION --
02:23:56.527 --> 02:23:58.463
WE CERTAINLY ARE VERY SENSITIVE
02:23:58.529 --> 02:24:00.565
AND UNDERSTAND THE UNIQUE NEEDS
02:24:00.631 --> 02:24:02.000
OF THE TRANSGENDER COMMUNITY IN
02:24:02.066 --> 02:24:03.701
OUR AYE JAIL POPULATION.
02:24:03.768 --> 02:24:05.636
ON HOWEVER WE WILL BE --
02:24:05.703 --> 02:24:07.205
MESS OPPOSED TO SPACE
02:24:07.271 --> 02:24:07.505
[inaudible]
02:24:07.572 --> 02:24:11.009
AND IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS BILL
02:24:11.075 --> 02:24:13.277
IN OUR FACILITIES --
02:24:13.344 --> 02:24:16.014
AYE WE WE HAVE NO WAY A
02:24:16.080 --> 02:24:17.348
CORRECTIONAL OFFICER HAS NO WAY
02:24:17.415 --> 02:24:19.317
OF KNOWING.
02:24:19.384 --> 02:24:21.219
OF KNOWING HOW TO ADDRESS AN
02:24:21.285 --> 02:24:22.687
INMATE ON WHAT THEY'RE PRO AND
02:24:22.754 --> 02:24:23.888
PREFERENCES --
02:24:23.955 --> 02:24:26.491
UNDER PRONOUN ON IT MIGHT BE ON
02:24:26.557 --> 02:24:28.359
INTAKE YOU MIGHT BE EASY --
02:24:28.426 --> 02:24:29.727
TO FORD IN MAKES A I WOULD LIKE
02:24:29.794 --> 02:24:31.329
TO BE REFERRED TO AS A HE SHE OR
02:24:31.396 --> 02:24:33.197
DAY BUT ONCE THAT INMATE IS
02:24:33.264 --> 02:24:35.666
PLACE ANY HAVE QUESTIONABLE --
02:24:35.733 --> 02:24:37.268
OFFICERS WHO ARE MOVING FROM
02:24:37.335 --> 02:24:38.970
UNIT TO UNIT OR MIGHT BE
02:24:39.037 --> 02:24:41.239
DIFFERENT DAY TODAY AND THE
02:24:41.305 --> 02:24:42.306
MIGHT INADVERTENTLY A MISTAKE
02:24:42.373 --> 02:24:46.177
HERE AND REFER TO THAT INMATE --
02:24:46.244 --> 02:24:48.279
BY IT DIFFERENT PRONOUN AND THAT
02:24:48.346 --> 02:24:49.347
MIGHT LEAD TO LITIGATION FROM
02:24:49.414 --> 02:24:51.282
THE IN MAY SAYING HEY YOU --
02:24:51.349 --> 02:24:52.950
DID THIS ON PURPOSE OR
02:24:53.017 --> 02:24:54.419
INTENTIONALLY WHEN IN FACT THAT
02:24:54.485 --> 02:24:56.187
WAS NOT THE CASE SOBRE VERY
02:24:56.254 --> 02:24:58.456
CONCERNED ABOUT THAT AND ALSO AS
02:24:58.523 --> 02:25:00.491
FAR AS THE HOUSING GOES AGAIN.
02:25:00.558 --> 02:25:02.727
WE SOMETIMES ISOLATE ON THESE
02:25:02.794 --> 02:25:04.862
INDIVIDUALS JUST FOR THEIR OWN
02:25:04.929 --> 02:25:08.199
SAFETY ON SO AND IT'S VERY HARD
02:25:08.266 --> 02:25:09.133
TO AND HAVE A COOKIE CUTTER
02:25:09.200 --> 02:25:11.035
APPROACH IS STATEWIDE APPROACH
02:25:11.102 --> 02:25:12.804
SAYING EVERY FACILITY NEEDS TO
02:25:12.870 --> 02:25:13.938
ADDRESS THIS ISSUE.
02:25:14.005 --> 02:25:15.473
AND WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE
02:25:15.540 --> 02:25:17.642
ABILITY TO BE FLEXIBLE AND BE
02:25:17.708 --> 02:25:19.410
ABLE TO PROVIDE THOSE INMATES
02:25:19.477 --> 02:25:21.412
WHO ARE IN ISOLATION DEPENDING
02:25:21.479 --> 02:25:22.814
ON WHAT THEY NEED.
02:25:22.880 --> 02:25:23.648
TO AND PROVIDE THEM WITH
02:25:23.714 --> 02:25:25.083
EDUCATION OUT OF THE CATIA OR
02:25:25.149 --> 02:25:27.685
TRAINING I'M SO RESPECTFULLY FOR
02:25:27.752 --> 02:25:28.853
NOW WE HAVE TO OPPOSE AND ASK
02:25:28.920 --> 02:25:30.154
THAT YOU --
02:25:30.221 --> 02:25:31.189
VOTE NO ON THIS LEGISLATION
02:25:31.255 --> 02:25:33.491
THANK YOU THANK YOU ANY OTHER
02:25:33.558 --> 02:25:34.826
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION.
02:25:34.892 --> 02:25:38.362
NAME ORGANIZATION OR NO OKAY.
02:25:38.429 --> 02:25:38.963
BANK QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE
02:25:39.030 --> 02:25:41.999
MEMBERS SO I KNOW I KNOW TALK
02:25:42.066 --> 02:25:45.069
REALLY FAST SO I I DO SUPPORT
02:25:45.136 --> 02:25:47.872
THIS BILL I DO ASK THAT YOU KNOW
02:25:47.939 --> 02:25:49.107
I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT
02:25:49.173 --> 02:25:50.708
THE REMEDY IS.
02:25:50.775 --> 02:25:53.911
IF IF PRONOUNS ARE NOT USED AND
02:25:53.978 --> 02:25:55.046
THEN YOU KNOW I JUST WANT TO
02:25:55.113 --> 02:25:56.981
KEEP IT REAL IT'S NOT LIKE YOU
02:25:57.048 --> 02:25:58.916
KNOW OUR BAR TAB PRISON
02:25:58.983 --> 02:26:00.585
POPULATION IN OUR JAILS ARE LIKE
02:26:00.651 --> 02:26:02.220
THE MOST.
02:26:02.286 --> 02:26:03.688
PROGRESSIVE AND LIBERAL IN TERMS
02:26:03.754 --> 02:26:04.989
OF HOW FOLKS ARE TREATED AND SO
02:26:05.056 --> 02:26:06.958
TRAINING --
02:26:07.024 --> 02:26:09.494
AND SAFETY CONCERNS IS ALSO
02:26:09.560 --> 02:26:11.629
SOMETHING THAT I WOULD HOPE AT
02:26:11.696 --> 02:26:13.131
ANOTHER TIME WHEN YOU HAVE TIME
02:26:13.197 --> 02:26:16.334
YOU COULD ADDRESS --
02:26:16.400 --> 02:26:19.237
YES SO I AM IN TERMS OF I
02:26:19.303 --> 02:26:20.671
REMEMBER AS A BILL DOES NOT
02:26:20.738 --> 02:26:21.639
CONTAIN A PRIVATE RIGHT OF
02:26:21.706 --> 02:26:22.940
ACTION --
02:26:23.007 --> 02:26:25.209
BUT SOMEONE CAN FILE A GRIEVANCE
02:26:25.276 --> 02:26:27.411
OF WITHIN THE WITHIN THE SYSTEM
02:26:27.478 --> 02:26:28.846
AND YOU KNOW WE CAN HAVE A LONG
02:26:28.913 --> 02:26:29.947
DEBATE ABOUT WHETHER THERE
02:26:30.014 --> 02:26:31.115
SHOULD BE A PRIVATE RIGHT OF
02:26:31.182 --> 02:26:32.016
ACTION EVERYONE HAS THEIR
02:26:32.083 --> 02:26:33.718
OPINION BUT I WE DON'T GO IN
02:26:33.784 --> 02:26:34.452
THAT DIRECTION.
02:26:34.519 --> 02:26:37.588
HOT THERE ARE THIS IS ONE PIECE
02:26:37.655 --> 02:26:40.258
OF A BROADER ISSUE --
02:26:40.324 --> 02:26:40.491
WITH --
02:26:40.558 --> 02:26:42.894
TRANS AM CAR THOSE WHO
02:26:42.960 --> 02:26:43.194
[inaudible]
02:26:43.261 --> 02:26:44.662
ARE --
02:26:44.729 --> 02:26:45.963
TREATED.
02:26:46.030 --> 02:26:47.765
VERY POORLY I'M NOT AT ALL
02:26:47.832 --> 02:26:50.601
SITUATION BUT IN MANY SITUATIONS
02:26:50.668 --> 02:26:52.603
ARE WHO ARE NOT THIS IS
02:26:52.670 --> 02:26:54.172
FUNDAMENTALLY CAUSED BY.
02:26:54.238 --> 02:26:56.641
PARTICULARLY TRANS WOMEN WHO ARE
02:26:56.707 --> 02:26:59.110
BEING CLASSIFIED AND HOW THOSE --
02:26:59.177 --> 02:27:01.145
WITH MEN AND SO THEY ARE THERE
02:27:01.212 --> 02:27:03.514
FOR AT SIGNIFICANT RISK OF
02:27:03.581 --> 02:27:05.917
ASSAULT SEXUAL SAW AND SO THEM
02:27:05.983 --> 02:27:07.552
PLACED IN ISOLATION.
02:27:07.618 --> 02:27:08.819
I YOU KNOW QUOTE UNQUOTE FOR
02:27:08.886 --> 02:27:10.821
THEIR OWN PROTECTION WHICH MAY
02:27:10.888 --> 02:27:11.889
LEAD TO THIS ISSUE OF BEING
02:27:11.956 --> 02:27:13.424
DEPRIVED OF SERVICES.
02:27:13.491 --> 02:27:14.759
LAW SO THERE IS A BROADER WORK
02:27:14.825 --> 02:27:17.628
HAPPENING THAT WE INTEND --
02:27:17.695 --> 02:27:19.730
TO YOUR WERE CURRENTLY WORKING
02:27:19.797 --> 02:27:20.698
WITH HOPE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF
02:27:20.765 --> 02:27:22.166
YEARS START ADDRESSING SOME OF
02:27:22.233 --> 02:27:23.434
THE BROADER --
02:27:23.501 --> 02:27:24.535
ISSUES BUT THIS IS A REAL
02:27:24.602 --> 02:27:26.671
PROBLEM LONGSTANDING WINE AND
02:27:26.737 --> 02:27:28.206
AND I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU
02:27:28.272 --> 02:27:29.907
THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS A IN A
02:27:29.974 --> 02:27:31.909
BROADER WAY AS WELL. TO THANK
02:27:31.976 --> 02:27:33.678
YOU FOR THAT.
02:27:33.744 --> 02:27:35.546
OKAY THANK YOU I TAKE DAYS YOUR
02:27:35.613 --> 02:27:37.515
CLOTHES MEN'S TERRY.
02:27:37.582 --> 02:27:38.316
CALLED WORLD.
02:27:38.382 --> 02:27:40.384
JEREC MANY AND I S. B. NINE
02:27:40.451 --> 02:27:41.719
NINETY THE MOTION IS TO PASS TO
02:27:41.786 --> 02:27:42.787
THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE JONES
02:27:42.853 --> 02:27:45.323
SAWYER AYE AYE DENSER AYE LACKEY.
02:27:45.389 --> 02:27:47.258
LACKEY NO CARDIO CARDIO I
02:27:47.325 --> 02:27:49.126
KAMLAGER-DOVE.
02:27:49.193 --> 02:27:50.494
KAMLAGER-DOVE AYE KILEY.
02:27:50.561 --> 02:27:52.697
KILEY NOT BOATING QUIRK.
02:27:52.763 --> 02:27:56.033
QUIRK AYE SANTIAGO.
02:27:56.100 --> 02:27:56.968
THAT MEASURE PASSES BETTER MUCH
02:27:57.034 --> 02:27:57.902
CONSIDER [inaudible]
02:27:57.969 --> 02:28:00.137
NOT VOTING.
02:28:00.204 --> 02:28:04.275
LACKEY NOTED NOT VOTING
02:28:04.342 --> 02:28:04.575
[inaudible]
02:28:04.642 --> 02:28:08.913
SENATE HUESO.
02:28:08.980 --> 02:28:24.128
S. B. ELEVEN SIXTY ITEM NUMBER.
02:28:24.195 --> 02:28:25.630
NINE THANK YOU MISTER CHAIRMAN
02:28:25.696 --> 02:28:27.265
MEMBERS YEAH YOU'RE.
02:28:27.331 --> 02:28:27.898
THE WHENEVER YOU'RE READY THANK
02:28:27.965 --> 02:28:29.200
YOU SIR.
02:28:29.267 --> 02:28:31.802
I'M PROUD TO PRESENT SB ELEVEN
02:28:31.869 --> 02:28:32.503
SIXTY THIS IS.
02:28:32.570 --> 02:28:34.238
A VERY IMPORTANT BILL.
02:28:34.305 --> 02:28:36.107
THAT WOULD ADD TO THE SECURITY
02:28:36.173 --> 02:28:37.675
IN THE ENJOYMENT OF GAMING
02:28:37.742 --> 02:28:39.343
FACILITY PATRONS AND EMPLOYEES
02:28:39.410 --> 02:28:40.911
STATEWIDE.
02:28:40.978 --> 02:28:42.546
THIS BILL PASSED OUT OF THE
02:28:42.613 --> 02:28:43.681
SENATE WITH HER STRONG
02:28:43.748 --> 02:28:44.982
BIPARTISAN SUPPORT AND NO NO
02:28:45.049 --> 02:28:47.084
VOTE --
02:28:47.151 --> 02:28:48.986
TRESPASSING.
02:28:49.053 --> 02:28:50.321
AT GAMING FACILITIES IS THE
02:28:50.388 --> 02:28:52.690
CONTINUED PROBLEM AND POSES.
02:28:52.757 --> 02:28:53.524
A SERIOUS THREAT TO PUBLIC
02:28:53.591 --> 02:28:55.760
SAFETY.
02:28:55.826 --> 02:28:57.628
ONLY INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE A
02:28:57.695 --> 02:28:59.597
PUBLIC THREAT ARE ISSUED AN
02:28:59.664 --> 02:29:01.499
ORDER OF EXCLUSION.
02:29:01.565 --> 02:29:03.367
SUCH ACTIVITY INCLUDES
02:29:03.434 --> 02:29:04.802
INTOXICATION COUNTERFEITING
02:29:04.869 --> 02:29:07.872
HARASSMENT THEFT AND OTHERS.
02:29:07.938 --> 02:29:09.874
IN THAT CATEGORY.
02:29:09.940 --> 02:29:11.609
BECAUSE CALIFORNIA'S A PUBLIC
02:29:11.676 --> 02:29:13.611
LAW TWO EIGHTY STATE.
02:29:13.678 --> 02:29:15.346
AND THAT MEANS THAT THE FEDERAL
02:29:15.413 --> 02:29:15.846
GOVERNMENT GIVES A STATE
02:29:15.913 --> 02:29:17.381
AUTHORITY.
02:29:17.448 --> 02:29:19.050
THAT ITS TO SCRATCH AT THE
02:29:19.116 --> 02:29:19.550
DISCRETION OF LOCAL LAW
02:29:19.617 --> 02:29:21.886
ENFORCEMENT. TO ENFORCE THE
02:29:21.952 --> 02:29:23.721
EXCLUSION ORDERS ORIGINATING
02:29:23.788 --> 02:29:25.856
WITH THEN [inaudible]
02:29:25.923 --> 02:29:28.092
TRIBAL LANDS --
02:29:28.159 --> 02:29:29.794
THAT AND THIS EXTENDS TO THE
02:29:29.860 --> 02:29:31.495
TRIBAL GAMING EX.
02:29:31.562 --> 02:29:32.596
ESTABLISHMENT IT'S UP TO STATE
02:29:32.663 --> 02:29:34.298
LAW.
02:29:34.365 --> 02:29:36.467
WHETHER TO DETERMINE.
02:29:36.534 --> 02:29:38.402
WHETHER LAW ENFORCEMENT CAN.
02:29:38.469 --> 02:29:39.870
UP HOLD --
02:29:39.937 --> 02:29:41.539
LAWS WITHIN.
02:29:41.605 --> 02:29:43.808
TRIBAL LANDS SO THIS BILL
02:29:43.874 --> 02:29:45.609
ACCORDING TO THAT SPECIFIC
02:29:45.676 --> 02:29:49.113
POLICY IS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY
02:29:49.180 --> 02:29:50.214
TO ENSURE.
02:29:50.281 --> 02:29:51.649
THAT TRIBAL GOVERNMENTS CAN WORK
02:29:51.716 --> 02:29:53.017
LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT
02:29:53.084 --> 02:29:55.386
AUTHORITIES TO UPHOLD THE LAW.
02:29:55.453 --> 02:29:56.687
WE ALREADY GET HAVE OTHER
02:29:56.754 --> 02:29:58.989
ESTABLISHMENTS US SPECIFIC
02:29:59.056 --> 02:30:00.858
LETTER OF THE LAW AUTHORITY TO
02:30:00.925 --> 02:30:02.493
WORK WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT TO
02:30:02.560 --> 02:30:04.195
ENFORCE EXCLUSION ORDERS.
02:30:04.261 --> 02:30:05.730
AND THIS BILL IS ABSOLUTELY
02:30:05.796 --> 02:30:07.965
NECESSARY IN ORDER FOR LAW
02:30:08.032 --> 02:30:10.201
ENFORCEMENT CHU CHU ENFORCE
02:30:10.267 --> 02:30:12.436
EXCLUSION ORDERS.
02:30:12.503 --> 02:30:13.904
I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE SOME.
02:30:13.971 --> 02:30:15.806
ALONG FORSMAN AGENCIES IN SOME
02:30:15.873 --> 02:30:17.408
COUNTIES IN THE STATE.
02:30:17.475 --> 02:30:18.542
THAT ALREADY --
02:30:18.609 --> 02:30:21.312
ENFORCE EXCLUSION ORDERS BUT
02:30:21.379 --> 02:30:24.982
THAT IS KIND OF A BIGGER AREA
02:30:25.049 --> 02:30:26.484
AND THE LAW THAT POTENTIALLY
02:30:26.550 --> 02:30:28.586
EXPOSES.
02:30:28.652 --> 02:30:29.387
THESE -- OF
02:30:29.453 --> 02:30:31.489
THESE --
02:30:31.555 --> 02:30:34.258
AGENCIES TO A CHALLENGE A LEGAL
02:30:34.325 --> 02:30:36.527
CHALLENGE TO REALLY CHECK TEST.
02:30:36.594 --> 02:30:38.262
WHETHER THE LAW PERMITS THAT
02:30:38.329 --> 02:30:38.562
[inaudible]
02:30:38.629 --> 02:30:40.331
CURRENTLY.
02:30:40.398 --> 02:30:42.733
THE ONLY WAY THE TRIBES HAVE --
02:30:42.800 --> 02:30:44.268
TO HAVE THEIR EXCLUSION ORDERS
02:30:44.335 --> 02:30:46.837
ENFORCED IS TO GO TO A STATE
02:30:46.904 --> 02:30:47.638
COURT.
02:30:47.705 --> 02:30:49.106
AND SEEK A RESTRAINING ORDER
02:30:49.173 --> 02:30:50.608
AGAINST THE MOST PROBLEMATIC
02:30:50.674 --> 02:30:51.742
PERSON.
02:30:51.809 --> 02:30:53.344
THIS CAN TAKE.
02:30:53.411 --> 02:30:55.312
MONTHS IF NOT YEARS.
02:30:55.379 --> 02:30:56.847
BUT IT'S A VERY COSTLY AND
02:30:56.914 --> 02:30:58.549
DIFFICULT PROGRAM.
02:30:58.616 --> 02:31:01.185
AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT THE
02:31:01.252 --> 02:31:02.686
TRIBES HAVE NECESSARILY.
02:31:02.753 --> 02:31:04.789
FOUGHT RELIED ON TO MAKE SURE
02:31:04.855 --> 02:31:05.856
THAT THEY CAN --
02:31:05.923 --> 02:31:07.792
IF FORCED THEIR EXCLUSION ORDER.
02:31:07.858 --> 02:31:08.793
S. B. ELEVEN SIXTY THIS BILL
02:31:08.859 --> 02:31:11.729
BEFORE US WOULD CODIFY THE
02:31:11.796 --> 02:31:13.297
ABIITY A LOCAL ON LAW
02:31:13.364 --> 02:31:15.800
ENFORCEMENT. TO ENFORCE TRIBAL
02:31:15.866 --> 02:31:18.068
EXCUSED EXCLUSION ORDERS LIMITED
02:31:18.135 --> 02:31:19.103
TO TRIBAL TRIBAL GAMING
02:31:19.170 --> 02:31:20.771
FACILITIES.
02:31:20.838 --> 02:31:22.072
INDIVIDUALS PLACED ON ON
02:31:22.139 --> 02:31:24.108
EXCLUSION LIST WOULD HAVE DUE
02:31:24.175 --> 02:31:26.710
PROCESS INCLUDING NOTICE AND A
02:31:26.777 --> 02:31:28.612
HEARING BEFORE THE TRIBAL GAMING
02:31:28.679 --> 02:31:30.247
COMMISSION.
02:31:30.314 --> 02:31:32.082
THIS IS THE THE SAME AUTHORITY
02:31:32.149 --> 02:31:33.350
AS I MENTIONED EARLY GIVEN TO
02:31:33.417 --> 02:31:35.019
CARD ROOMS AT HORSE RACING
02:31:35.085 --> 02:31:35.519
TRACKS.
02:31:35.586 --> 02:31:37.755
IN CALIFORNIA UNDER CALIFORNIA
02:31:37.822 --> 02:31:38.355
BUSINESS AND PROFESSIONS CODE
02:31:38.422 --> 02:31:41.525
SECTIONS ONE NINE EIGHT ZERO ONE
02:31:41.592 --> 02:31:43.661
AND ONE NINE NINE FOUR ZERO
02:31:43.727 --> 02:31:44.261
TRYING WERE GAVE ME SHOULD BE
02:31:44.328 --> 02:31:44.895
TREATED.
02:31:44.962 --> 02:31:47.598
NO DIFFERENTLY.
02:31:47.665 --> 02:31:49.834
AGAIN IN MANY PARTS OF THE STATE
02:31:49.900 --> 02:31:50.134
[inaudible]
02:31:50.201 --> 02:31:51.602
TRIBAL.
02:31:51.669 --> 02:31:53.637
EXCLUSIONS ARE NOT ENFORCED BY
02:31:53.704 --> 02:31:55.072
LAW ENFORCEMENT LAW ENFORCEMENT
02:31:55.139 --> 02:31:56.640
IS TAKEN THE POSITION THAT THEY
02:31:56.707 --> 02:31:57.908
CAN NOT.
02:31:57.975 --> 02:31:59.477
THAT THE STATE DOES NOT PROVIDE
02:31:59.543 --> 02:32:01.345
THEM THE AUTHORITY TO DO SO AND
02:32:01.412 --> 02:32:02.913
THIS BILL WOULD CORRECT THAT AND
02:32:02.980 --> 02:32:04.548
REQUIRE THEM.
02:32:04.615 --> 02:32:06.951
CHU CHU UP FOLLOW THE LAW.
02:32:07.017 --> 02:32:08.552
S. B. WOULD ALIGN ALL LAW
02:32:08.619 --> 02:32:09.854
ENFORCEMENT WITH THE CLEAR AND
02:32:09.920 --> 02:32:11.589
CONSISTENT PROCESS FOR ENFORCING
02:32:11.655 --> 02:32:13.991
ORDERS OF EXCLUSIONS.
02:32:14.058 --> 02:32:15.993
ISSUED BY TRIBAL GOVERNMENTS
02:32:16.060 --> 02:32:18.762
TRIBAL SOVEREIGNTY WOULD NOT BE
02:32:18.829 --> 02:32:20.197
WEEKEND IN ANY WAY.
02:32:20.264 --> 02:32:22.900
IN FACT SB ELEVEN SIXTY WOULD
02:32:22.967 --> 02:32:24.835
STRENGTHEN IT BY ALLOWING TRUCK
02:32:24.902 --> 02:32:26.170
TRIBAL GAMING AUTHORITIES TO
02:32:26.237 --> 02:32:27.972
EXCLUDE DANGEROUS PERSONS AND
02:32:28.038 --> 02:32:29.673
LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT.
02:32:29.740 --> 02:32:30.608
AND WOULD GIVE LOCAL LAW
02:32:30.674 --> 02:32:31.942
ENFORCEMENT THE ABILITY TO FOR
02:32:32.009 --> 02:32:34.445
SUCH AN EXCLUSION THIS WOULD BE
02:32:34.512 --> 02:32:36.914
EXTENDING A VERY NECESSARY AND
02:32:36.981 --> 02:32:38.983
IMPORTANT SERVICE.
02:32:39.049 --> 02:32:40.718
CHIU TRIBAL GOVERNMENTS WITHOUT
02:32:40.784 --> 02:32:42.720
HAVING TO SEEK COURT
02:32:42.786 --> 02:32:43.020
[inaudible]
02:32:43.087 --> 02:32:46.457
A APPROVAL PRIOR TO A TO THAT
02:32:46.524 --> 02:32:48.559
PROCESS.
02:32:48.626 --> 02:32:51.095
WE HAVE WITH WITH US TODAY I'D
02:32:51.161 --> 02:32:52.796
LIKE TO INTRODUCE STEVE STALIN.
02:32:52.863 --> 02:32:53.864
STALIN'S HE'S --
02:32:53.931 --> 02:32:56.300
THE CHAIRMAN OF CIGNA STEVE
02:32:56.367 --> 02:32:57.635
HARTLEY TRIBAL ATTORNEY IN
02:32:57.701 --> 02:32:59.637
MICHAEL STILL THE ASSISTANT DE.
02:32:59.703 --> 02:33:00.704
DISTRICT ATTORNEY FOR SAMUEL
02:33:00.771 --> 02:33:03.374
COUNTY -- IF
02:33:03.440 --> 02:33:06.176
BUT WHAT THE CHAIRMAN'S A
02:33:06.243 --> 02:33:08.512
PERMISSION IF THEY COULD PROVIDE
02:33:08.579 --> 02:33:10.047
SOME COMMENTS AS TO WAI THE
02:33:10.114 --> 02:33:11.015
SKILLS NEEDED YES TO USUALLY
02:33:11.081 --> 02:33:13.284
PROVIDE FIVE MINUTES FOR
02:33:13.350 --> 02:33:15.085
EVERYONE TOTALITY SO.
02:33:15.152 --> 02:33:17.321
HOW HOW YOU WANT TO BREAK IT UP?
02:33:17.388 --> 02:33:17.855
GOOD MORNING CHAIRMAN AND
02:33:17.922 --> 02:33:19.323
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE MY NAME
02:33:19.390 --> 02:33:20.324
IS STEVE STALLINGS ON THE
02:33:20.391 --> 02:33:21.725
CHAIRMAN THE CALIFORNIA NATION'S
02:33:21.792 --> 02:33:23.394
INDIAN GAMING ASSOCIATION.
02:33:23.460 --> 02:33:26.463
NOT A SPONSOR OF SB ELEVEN SIXTY
02:33:26.530 --> 02:33:28.265
BY WITH OUR THIRTY SIX MEMBERS
02:33:28.332 --> 02:33:29.300
ARE TRIBAL GOVERNMENTS.
02:33:29.366 --> 02:33:30.935
WE REPRESENT THE LARGEST
02:33:31.001 --> 02:33:32.670
REGIONAL ASSOCIATION OF TRIBES
02:33:32.736 --> 02:33:34.138
IN THE UNITED STATES.
02:33:34.204 --> 02:33:35.839
EDITION TO THE ASSOCIATION
02:33:35.906 --> 02:33:37.708
SUPPORT HAVE YOU LOOK AT OUR
02:33:37.775 --> 02:33:39.877
SUPPORT LESS YOU'LL SEE TWO
02:33:39.944 --> 02:33:41.912
MAJOR TRIBAL ASSOCIATIONS IN
02:33:41.979 --> 02:33:43.547
NORTHERN AND SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.
02:33:43.614 --> 02:33:44.949
THAT REPRESENT ANOTHER THIRTY
02:33:45.015 --> 02:33:45.749
TRIBES.
02:33:45.816 --> 02:33:47.885
S. B. ELEVEN SIXTY WILL ENHANCE
02:33:47.952 --> 02:33:48.752
THE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF
02:33:48.819 --> 02:33:51.455
CASINO PATRONS AND OUR EMPLOYEES
02:33:51.522 --> 02:33:52.690
STATEWIDE.
02:33:52.756 --> 02:33:54.725
TRIBAL GOVERNMENTS WORK HARD TO
02:33:54.792 --> 02:33:56.393
ENSURE THAT THERE ARE OR IS
02:33:56.460 --> 02:33:57.995
STRONG SAFETY IN OUR FACILITIES.
02:33:58.062 --> 02:33:59.797
FOUND IN OUR GAMING
02:33:59.863 --> 02:34:01.098
ESTABLISHMENTS --
02:34:01.165 --> 02:34:02.299
ACTUALLY.
02:34:02.366 --> 02:34:03.100
THE FOR SOME OF THE MAJOR
02:34:03.167 --> 02:34:05.002
PROBLEMS YOU HAVE BEEN TALKING
02:34:05.069 --> 02:34:06.737
ABOUT HERE THIS MORNING.
02:34:06.804 --> 02:34:08.038
HOWEVER SINCE THEY ARE
02:34:08.105 --> 02:34:09.640
CALIFORNIA'S A PUBLIC LAW TWO
02:34:09.707 --> 02:34:10.474
EIGHTY STATE.
02:34:10.541 --> 02:34:12.142
TRIES MUST RELY UPON LOCAL LAW
02:34:12.209 --> 02:34:14.511
ENFORCEMENT AND THE COURTS AFTER
02:34:14.578 --> 02:34:15.913
THOSE GUILTY OF TRESPASSING IN
02:34:15.980 --> 02:34:17.147
OUR FACILITIES.
02:34:17.214 --> 02:34:18.816
CURRENTLY ENFORCEMENTOF
02:34:18.882 --> 02:34:20.250
TRESPASS LACKEY STATEWIDE
02:34:20.317 --> 02:34:22.052
STANDARD OF FOR LOCAL LAW
02:34:22.119 --> 02:34:23.354
ENFORCEMENT THE FOLLOWING.
02:34:23.420 --> 02:34:24.588
NOW THIS CREATES ONE BY ADDING A
02:34:24.655 --> 02:34:27.591
TRY WORKS [inaudible]
02:34:27.658 --> 02:34:29.693
GOVERNMENT --
02:34:29.760 --> 02:34:30.794
TO EXISTING DEFINITIONS OF
02:34:30.861 --> 02:34:33.530
CRIMINAL TRESPASS SO WE'RE NOT
02:34:33.597 --> 02:34:35.232
CREATING A NEW LAW --
02:34:35.299 --> 02:34:37.368
WERE JUST ADDING TRIBES --
02:34:37.434 --> 02:34:39.370
AND MAKING IT CLEAR THAT THEY
02:34:39.436 --> 02:34:40.938
HAVE THE GUARANTEE THAT OTHER
02:34:41.005 --> 02:34:42.940
FACILITIES HAVE NOW FOR THE SAME
02:34:43.007 --> 02:34:44.808
LAW ENFORCEMENT PROTECTIONS AS
02:34:44.875 --> 02:34:48.078
OTHER CALIFORNIA BUSINESSES.-IS A FALLACY TO STATE THIS
02:34:48.145 --> 02:34:49.213
AMENDMENT TO THE PENAL CODE IS
02:34:49.279 --> 02:34:50.414
NOT NECESSARY.
02:34:50.481 --> 02:34:51.882
IF THAT WAS TRUE THE CARD ROOMS
02:34:51.949 --> 02:34:53.450
AND RACE TRACKS WOULD HAVE HAD
02:34:53.517 --> 02:34:54.318
THEIR HAVE TO HAVE THEIR
02:34:54.385 --> 02:34:55.052
AMENDMENT TO THE BUSY
02:34:55.119 --> 02:34:59.390
PROFESSIONAL COACH --
02:34:59.456 --> 02:35:00.791
IT'S SIMPLY ARE ABOUT PATRON
02:35:00.858 --> 02:35:02.660
EMPLOYEE PROTECTION TRIBAL
02:35:02.726 --> 02:35:03.594
GOVERNMENTS ISSUE EXCLUSION
02:35:03.661 --> 02:35:05.429
ORDERS WHEN INDIVIDUALS POSE A
02:35:05.496 --> 02:35:07.064
RISK TO THE PUBLIC.
02:35:07.131 --> 02:35:08.966
OTHER FOR FOR PROFIT GAMING
02:35:09.033 --> 02:35:09.800
ESTABLISHMENTS CAN DO THIS
02:35:09.867 --> 02:35:10.367
ALREADY.
02:35:10.434 --> 02:35:11.702
TRIBAL CASINO PATRONS AND
02:35:11.769 --> 02:35:12.870
EMPLOYEES DESERVE THE SAME
02:35:12.936 --> 02:35:13.971
PROTECTION.
02:35:14.038 --> 02:35:16.573
NONSENSE PATRONS ARE ANY CASINO
02:35:16.640 --> 02:35:18.075
EMPLOYEES ARE OVERWHELMING FROM
02:35:18.142 --> 02:35:20.044
OUTSIDE OUR COMMUNITIES IS A
02:35:20.110 --> 02:35:21.712
PROBLEM AFFECTS A WIDE VARIETY
02:35:21.779 --> 02:35:24.648
OF CALIFORNIA RESIDENTS --
02:35:24.715 --> 02:35:26.183
TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THIS
02:35:26.250 --> 02:35:27.685
GUARANTEES A LAW ENFORCEMENT
02:35:27.751 --> 02:35:29.319
OFFICERS AND PATRONS EMPLOYEES
02:35:29.386 --> 02:35:30.721
CAN HAVE A CLEAR PROCESS FOR
02:35:30.788 --> 02:35:33.123
REMOVAL EXCLUSION AND CHARGING
02:35:33.190 --> 02:35:34.792
THOSE PERSONS OPPOSE A DANGER.
02:35:34.858 --> 02:35:36.160
SO WE STRONGLY ENCOURAGE YOUR
02:35:36.226 --> 02:35:37.861
SUPPORT. FOR THIS LEGISLATION
02:35:37.928 --> 02:35:40.130
BEFORE ARE ANY MAJOR INCIDENTS
02:35:40.197 --> 02:35:41.665
TO HAPPEN OUR FACILITIES.
02:35:41.732 --> 02:35:41.932
THANK YOU.
02:35:41.999 --> 02:35:44.101
MIX.
02:35:44.168 --> 02:35:45.035
GOOD MORNING MY NAME IS MIKE
02:35:45.102 --> 02:35:46.570
STILL THE W. DISTRICT ATTORNEY
02:35:46.637 --> 02:35:48.238
FOR THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO BEEN
02:35:48.305 --> 02:35:49.540
A PROSECUTOR FOR TWENTY SIX
02:35:49.606 --> 02:35:49.907
YEARS.
02:35:49.973 --> 02:35:51.542
ON THE TRIBAL LAYS ON FOR THE
02:35:51.608 --> 02:35:53.577
DISTRICT ATTORNEY OF SEND YOUR
02:35:53.644 --> 02:35:55.646
COUNTY --
02:35:55.713 --> 02:35:56.747
AND I ADVISE HER AND WORK WITH.
02:35:56.814 --> 02:35:58.215
THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT ON
02:35:58.282 --> 02:35:59.450
TRIBAL GAMING IT NEEDS ARE
02:35:59.516 --> 02:36:01.385
PRETTY ISSUES SEND YOU COUNTY IS
02:36:01.452 --> 02:36:02.653
THE MOST DRIVE ANY COUNTY THE
02:36:02.720 --> 02:36:04.455
WHOLE COUNTRY EIGHTEEN A TRIBAL
02:36:04.521 --> 02:36:05.155
GOVERNMENTS.
02:36:05.222 --> 02:36:06.657
AND THE MOST INDIAN CASINOS OF
02:36:06.724 --> 02:36:07.958
ANY COUNTY IN THE WHOLE COUNTRY
02:36:08.025 --> 02:36:09.626
CURRENTLY.
02:36:09.693 --> 02:36:10.427
ELEVEN BECAUSE HE WAS ATTRACT
02:36:10.494 --> 02:36:12.596
PROBLEM PATRONS THAT'S NO SECRET.
02:36:12.663 --> 02:36:13.163
THEY POSE A THREAT TO PUBLIC
02:36:13.230 --> 02:36:15.365
SAFETY VIGIL TO CHEAT STEAL
02:36:15.432 --> 02:36:17.201
HARASS OTHER PATRONS BECOME
02:36:17.267 --> 02:36:19.670
INTOXICATED TRY TO PASS THAT
02:36:19.737 --> 02:36:20.938
JACKSON YOU STOLEN CREDIT CARDS.
02:36:21.004 --> 02:36:22.539
THERE'S ALSO DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
02:36:22.606 --> 02:36:24.174
PROSTITUTION AND DRUG DEALING.
02:36:24.241 --> 02:36:25.409
TRIBAL GAMING COMMISSION'S
02:36:25.476 --> 02:36:27.277
COMPLACENT PERSONS ON EXCLUDED
02:36:27.344 --> 02:36:28.245
HER BAND LIST --
02:36:28.312 --> 02:36:30.781
AND KEEP THEM OUT THE CASINO --
02:36:30.848 --> 02:36:32.182
STRONG SECURITY AND SURVEILLANCE
02:36:32.249 --> 02:36:33.217
AT THE CASINOS LETS THEM
02:36:33.283 --> 02:36:34.952
IDENTIFY THESE INDIVIDUALS WHEN
02:36:35.018 --> 02:36:37.187
THEY COME BACK UNDER CALIFORNIA.
02:36:37.254 --> 02:36:38.322
TRUSTS PASSED LAWS WHEN THAT
02:36:38.388 --> 02:36:40.290
EXCLUDE PERSON COMES BACK IN
02:36:40.357 --> 02:36:41.058
ORDER FOR THERE TO BE A TRUST
02:36:41.125 --> 02:36:41.959
PASS.
02:36:42.025 --> 02:36:43.427
THAT PERSON HAS TO BE INTERFERE
02:36:43.494 --> 02:36:44.528
WITH THE BUSINESS AND OTHER
02:36:44.595 --> 02:36:45.729
WORDS DOING SOMETHING THEY
02:36:45.796 --> 02:36:46.663
SHOULDN'T BE DOING ALL OVER
02:36:46.730 --> 02:36:47.731
AGAIN.
02:36:47.798 --> 02:36:48.699
AND REFUSED TO LEAVE WHEN ASKED
02:36:48.766 --> 02:36:50.467
TO DO SO BY CASINO SECURITY AND
02:36:50.534 --> 02:36:51.435
LAW ENFORCEMENT.
02:36:51.502 --> 02:36:52.503
WHY SHOULD THE CASINO PERSONNEL
02:36:52.569 --> 02:36:53.804
HAVE TO WAIT FOR THIS EXCLUDED
02:36:53.871 --> 02:36:55.105
PERSON WHO'S ALREADY BEEN THERE
02:36:55.172 --> 02:36:56.406
BECAUSE A PROBLEM BECAUSE THE
02:36:56.473 --> 02:36:58.876
PROBLEM ALL OVER AGAIN --
02:36:58.942 --> 02:37:00.144
THE CURRENT CALIFORNIA CRIMINAL
02:37:00.210 --> 02:37:02.045
TRESPASS LA DOES NOT ADEQUATELY
02:37:02.112 --> 02:37:02.846
ADDRESS AND PREVENT THIS
02:37:02.913 --> 02:37:04.982
REOCCURRING REOCCURRING PROBLEM
02:37:05.048 --> 02:37:06.817
ENCOUNTERED ANY CASINOS AS
02:37:06.884 --> 02:37:08.552
EXAMPLE JUST LAST WEEK.
02:37:08.619 --> 02:37:09.920
WE HAD AN INDIVIDUAL PLACING A
02:37:09.987 --> 02:37:10.954
VIDEO CAMERA AND A WOMEN'S
02:37:11.021 --> 02:37:12.856
BATHROOM AT ANY CASINO IN SAN
02:37:12.923 --> 02:37:13.957
DIEGO COUNTY.
02:37:14.024 --> 02:37:15.692
ON A PRIOR OCCASION THIS
02:37:15.759 --> 02:37:16.727
INDIVIDUAL HAD BEEN SEEN
02:37:16.794 --> 02:37:18.228
HARASSING WOMEN THEY CONCEAL AND
02:37:18.295 --> 02:37:19.229
HAD BEEN ESCORTED FROM THE
02:37:19.296 --> 02:37:20.731
CASINO AND PLACED ON THE BAND
02:37:20.798 --> 02:37:22.132
ARE EXCLUDED LIST BY THE GAMING
02:37:22.199 --> 02:37:22.933
COMMISSION.
02:37:23.000 --> 02:37:24.168
ON THIS OCCASION CASINO
02:37:24.234 --> 02:37:24.935
SURVEILLANCE PICKED THEM UP
02:37:25.002 --> 02:37:26.937
AGAIN ANTS CASINO SECURITY
02:37:27.004 --> 02:37:28.071
FOLLOWED HIM INTO THE WOMEN'S
02:37:28.138 --> 02:37:29.206
RESTROOM WHERE HE WAS HE TRYING
02:37:29.273 --> 02:37:30.974
TO CONCEAL THE VIDEO RECORDER
02:37:31.041 --> 02:37:32.309
UNDER ONE OF THE STALLS.
02:37:32.376 --> 02:37:33.644
Y. TICKETS YOU KNOW SECURITY
02:37:33.710 --> 02:37:34.778
HAVE TO WAIT FOR THIS INDIVIDUAL
02:37:34.845 --> 02:37:37.247
TO DO THIS ALL OVER AGAIN SB
02:37:37.314 --> 02:37:38.081
ELEVEN SIXTY WOULD HAVE.
02:37:38.148 --> 02:37:39.650
HELPED US CLOSE THIS LOOPHOLE IN
02:37:39.716 --> 02:37:42.085
GIVE TRIBAL GAMING LOCAL LAW
02:37:42.152 --> 02:37:43.120
ENFORCEMENT LOCAL PROSECUTORS.
02:37:43.187 --> 02:37:44.855
THE ABILITY TO EXCLUDE REMOVE
02:37:44.922 --> 02:37:46.456
AND PROSECUTE THESE INDIVIDUALS.
02:37:46.523 --> 02:37:47.958
WHO HAVE PREVIOUSLY PREVIOUSLY
02:37:48.025 --> 02:37:49.660
CAUSE A PROBLEM IN THE CASINOS
02:37:49.726 --> 02:37:50.928
FROM TRESPASSING AND COMING BACK
02:37:50.994 --> 02:37:52.196
AGAIN?
02:37:52.262 --> 02:37:53.363
THIS IS THE SAME AUTHORITY GIVEN
02:37:53.430 --> 02:37:54.731
A CARD ROOMS A HORSE RACE TRACKS
02:37:54.798 --> 02:37:56.300
IN A CALIFORNIA BUSINESS AND
02:37:56.366 --> 02:37:58.135
PROFESSIONS CODE SECTION
02:37:58.202 --> 02:37:59.970
NINETEEN EIGHTY TO ONE IN.
02:38:00.037 --> 02:38:00.537
NINETEEN NINE FORTY CARDROOM
02:38:00.604 --> 02:38:02.239
HORSE RICKY HORSE RACE TRACK AMY
02:38:02.306 --> 02:38:04.708
COMMISSIONS OR BOARD CAN EXCLUDE.
02:38:04.775 --> 02:38:06.243
AYE INDIVIDUALS AND PLACE THEM
02:38:06.310 --> 02:38:07.044
ON A LIST IN OF THAT INDIVIDUAL
02:38:07.110 --> 02:38:08.512
COMES BACK IN VIOLATION THAT
02:38:08.579 --> 02:38:09.513
EXCLUSION ORDER.
02:38:09.580 --> 02:38:10.581
THERE'D BE PROSECUTED FOR
02:38:10.647 --> 02:38:12.482
CRIMINAL TRESPASS.
02:38:12.549 --> 02:38:13.550
TRIBAL LAW ENFORCEMENT TRIBAL
02:38:13.617 --> 02:38:14.818
PEACE AND SECURITY WORDS IS IN
02:38:14.885 --> 02:38:16.386
TROUBLE COURTS ARE UNABLE TO
02:38:16.453 --> 02:38:18.188
ADEQUATELY ADDRESSING CLOSES THE
02:38:18.255 --> 02:38:20.090
POLL AND CURRENT CALIFORNIA LAW.
02:38:20.157 --> 02:38:21.391
A DEAL LACK OF JURISDICTIONAL
02:38:21.458 --> 02:38:22.693
AUTHORITY AND THE ABILITY OF
02:38:22.759 --> 02:38:24.361
LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT TO ENFORCE
02:38:24.428 --> 02:38:26.096
TRIBAL EXCLUSION ORDERS.
02:38:26.163 --> 02:38:28.665
IS THE CATCH TWENTY TWO S. B.
02:38:28.732 --> 02:38:29.633
ELEVEN SIXTY WOULD CODIFY THE
02:38:29.700 --> 02:38:31.535
ABILITY OF LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT.
02:38:31.602 --> 02:38:34.404
TO EXCLUDE TO ENFORCE TRIBAL
02:38:34.471 --> 02:38:35.672
SCREW THESE INDIVIDUALS FROM
02:38:35.739 --> 02:38:37.708
GAMING FACILITIES IN FAVOR OF
02:38:37.774 --> 02:38:39.977
PUBLIC SAFETY.
02:38:40.043 --> 02:38:41.245
INDIVIDUALS PLACE ON EXCLUSION
02:38:41.311 --> 02:38:42.746
LIST WOULD HAVE TO PROCESS
02:38:42.813 --> 02:38:44.414
INCLUDING NOTICED IN THE RIGHT
02:38:44.481 --> 02:38:45.048
TO A HEARING BEFORE THE TRIBAL
02:38:45.115 --> 02:38:46.183
GAMING COMMISSION.
02:38:46.250 --> 02:38:47.184
JUST LIKE THOSE INDIVIDUALS
02:38:47.251 --> 02:38:48.352
EXCLUDED FROM HORSE RACE TRACKS
02:38:48.418 --> 02:38:49.853
IN CARD ROOMS.
02:38:49.920 --> 02:38:51.021
TRIBAL SOVEREIGNTY IS NOT
02:38:51.088 --> 02:38:52.289
WEAKENED BY THIS BILL ITS
02:38:52.356 --> 02:38:53.790
STRENGTH AND RIGHT NOW THE
02:38:53.857 --> 02:38:54.858
TRIBES HAVE TO GO TO STATE COURT
02:38:54.925 --> 02:38:56.026
RECEIVED A RESTRAINING ORDER
02:38:56.093 --> 02:38:57.427
AGAINST THOSE INDIVIDUALS.
02:38:57.494 --> 02:38:58.862
THIS WILL ALLOW THE TRIBE LOW
02:38:58.929 --> 02:39:01.064
ALONG WITH LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT
02:39:01.131 --> 02:39:02.532
FOR USE W. TIME.
02:39:02.599 --> 02:39:06.737
THANK YOU ASKING FOR SUPPORT --
02:39:06.803 --> 02:39:07.905
GIVE YOU THIRTY SECONDS OKAY
02:39:07.971 --> 02:39:09.273
MISTER CHAIRMAN BARRY BROUGHT ON
02:39:09.339 --> 02:39:10.507
BEHALF OF UNITE HERE WE HAVE A
02:39:10.574 --> 02:39:11.742
LITTLE SEPARATE ISSUE WERE IN
02:39:11.808 --> 02:39:13.443
SUPPORT OF THE BILL FIRST OF ALL.
02:39:13.510 --> 02:39:15.479
WHEN I THANK THE SPONSORS AND
02:39:15.545 --> 02:39:16.914
SENATOR HUESO?
02:39:16.980 --> 02:39:18.815
BECAUSE THE BILL ALANCES THE
02:39:18.882 --> 02:39:22.185
RIGHT OF WORKERS. TO ENGAGE IN
02:39:22.252 --> 02:39:24.154
PROTECTED CONCERTED ACTIVITY
02:39:24.221 --> 02:39:26.423
UNION RELATED ACTIVITY ON AND TO
02:39:26.490 --> 02:39:27.291
GO THROUGH THE PROCESS THIS
02:39:27.357 --> 02:39:29.226
ESTABLISHED.
02:39:29.293 --> 02:39:31.061
ON SEE CONSISTENT WITH THE WAY
02:39:31.128 --> 02:39:32.996
IT'S DONE IN THE REST OF THE
02:39:33.063 --> 02:39:34.364
WORLD -- IN
02:39:34.431 --> 02:39:37.334
AMERICA ON TO DEAL WITH THE
02:39:37.401 --> 02:39:38.769
LABOR RELATIONS TRAVEL LABOR
02:39:38.835 --> 02:39:40.003
RELATIONS ORDINANCE IN TRIBAL
02:39:40.070 --> 02:39:43.040
LABOR RELATIONS RULES BUT FOR A
02:39:43.106 --> 02:39:45.242
WORKER UNION ORGANIZER WOULD BE
02:39:45.309 --> 02:39:47.010
SUBJECTED.
02:39:47.077 --> 02:39:49.179
TO ON AN ORDER OF X. EXCLUSION
02:39:49.246 --> 02:39:50.847
AND FOR THAT REASON WE SUPPORT
02:39:50.914 --> 02:39:52.282
THE BILL WE THANK.
02:39:52.349 --> 02:39:54.151
ARMED WITH TANKS SPONSOR AND THE
02:39:54.217 --> 02:39:56.687
AUTHOR THANK YOU.
02:39:56.753 --> 02:39:58.388
BUT THURMOND I'M JUST HERE TO
02:39:58.455 --> 02:40:00.424
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THANK YOU
02:40:00.490 --> 02:40:01.458
THANK YOU NAME AN ORGANIZATION
02:40:01.525 --> 02:40:03.493
IN SUPPORT.
02:40:03.560 --> 02:40:04.528
CHAIRMAN DRONE SCENE IS IN THE
02:40:04.594 --> 02:40:06.196
APP OF THE NIGHT AUBURN INDIAN
02:40:06.263 --> 02:40:07.464
COMEDIAN THE BLUE LAKE RANCHERIA
02:40:07.531 --> 02:40:07.965
AND SUPPORT [inaudible]
02:40:08.031 --> 02:40:11.201
THANK YOU.
02:40:11.268 --> 02:40:11.835
GOOD MORNING MONICA THAT'S WHAT
02:40:11.902 --> 02:40:13.003
THE KITANA CRUISE COMPANY ON
02:40:13.070 --> 02:40:14.237
BEHALF OF THE VA HOSPITAL
02:40:14.304 --> 02:40:16.106
COMMUNITY INDIANS WE DEFINITELY
02:40:16.173 --> 02:40:17.407
NEED THE PROTECTION THAT THIS
02:40:17.474 --> 02:40:19.443
BILL PROVIDES RUN VERY STRONG
02:40:19.509 --> 02:40:19.676
SUPPORT.
02:40:19.743 --> 02:40:22.279
THINK TANK YOU.
02:40:22.346 --> 02:40:23.046
GOOD MORNING MISTER CHAIRMAN
02:40:23.113 --> 02:40:24.414
RESOLUTION MUCH LOBBY AT THE
02:40:24.481 --> 02:40:25.582
CALIFORNIA STATE SHERIFFS
02:40:25.649 --> 02:40:26.216
ASSOCIATION SUPPORT [inaudible]
02:40:26.283 --> 02:40:28.218
THANK YOU.
02:40:28.285 --> 02:40:30.253
IF A WITNESS IN SUPPORT.
02:40:30.320 --> 02:40:32.356
ANY WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION
02:40:32.422 --> 02:40:32.656
[inaudible]
02:40:32.723 --> 02:40:34.491
GENTLEMAN [inaudible]
02:40:34.558 --> 02:40:39.396
YES.
02:40:39.463 --> 02:40:55.846
I NEED ALL THREE CHAIRS
02:40:57.047 --> 02:40:57.114
.
02:40:57.114 --> 02:40:58.749
MISTER CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS ON
02:40:58.815 --> 02:41:00.584
CAROLINE BILL HUNT TRUMP HAPPY
02:41:00.650 --> 02:41:02.052
YOUR TODAY HE WENT TO NATION.
02:41:02.119 --> 02:41:04.454
ON WE HEAR A TO OPPOSE THE BILL.
02:41:04.521 --> 02:41:06.089
AS NOTED BY THE AUTHORED ON THE
02:41:06.156 --> 02:41:08.025
FACT SHEET SB ELEVEN SIXTY WAS
02:41:08.091 --> 02:41:08.859
INTRODUCED TO PROVIDE LAW
02:41:08.925 --> 02:41:10.060
ENFORCEMENT AND TRIBAL
02:41:10.127 --> 02:41:11.395
GOVERNMENTS WITH THE CLEAR AND
02:41:11.461 --> 02:41:13.430
CONSISTENT PROCESS. FOR HANDLING
02:41:13.497 --> 02:41:14.297
TRIBAL EXCLUSION ORDERS ON A
02:41:14.364 --> 02:41:16.533
STATEWIDE BASIS AS INTRODUCED
02:41:16.600 --> 02:41:17.701
YOUR TODAY HE WENT TO NATION
02:41:17.768 --> 02:41:19.269
FOUND THE STATED PURPOSE OF THE
02:41:19.336 --> 02:41:20.303
BILL TO BE LAUDABLE AND IS
02:41:20.370 --> 02:41:22.039
SUPPORTIVE OF EFFORTS TO CLARIFY
02:41:22.105 --> 02:41:23.373
A CONFIRM.
02:41:23.440 --> 02:41:24.307
TRIBAL GOVERNMENTS RIGHTS TO
02:41:24.374 --> 02:41:25.776
ARREST AND PROSECUTE INDIVIDUALS
02:41:25.842 --> 02:41:27.310
WHO ENTER PRIVATE LANDS WITHOUT
02:41:27.377 --> 02:41:28.879
TRIBAL CONSENT.
02:41:28.945 --> 02:41:30.147
THAT RIGHT IS ONE OF THE MORE
02:41:30.213 --> 02:41:31.448
FUNDAMENTAL POWERS OF INDIAN
02:41:31.515 --> 02:41:33.016
TRIBAL GOVERNMENT TO EXCLUDE
02:41:33.083 --> 02:41:34.217
UNWANTED PERSON FROM THEIR
02:41:34.284 --> 02:41:36.386
SOVEREIGN LANDS AND BUSINESSES.
02:41:36.453 --> 02:41:37.421
WHILE YOUR CHECK HAS A STRONG
02:41:37.487 --> 02:41:38.722
WORKING LIKE WORKING
02:41:38.789 --> 02:41:39.790
RELATIONSHIP WITH LOCAL LAW
02:41:39.856 --> 02:41:42.025
ENFORCEMENT OUR TRIBAL COUNCIL
02:41:42.092 --> 02:41:43.593
UNDERSTANDS THAT NOT ALL TRIBES
02:41:43.660 --> 02:41:44.895
DO AND BELIEVES THAT EMBEDDING
02:41:44.961 --> 02:41:46.263
THESE PRINCIPLES IN CALIFORNIA
02:41:46.329 --> 02:41:48.532
LAW. TO PROVIDE UNIFORM AND
02:41:48.598 --> 02:41:49.866
FORCED IT IS A GOOD IDEA.
02:41:49.933 --> 02:41:51.635
WE TAKE EXCEPTION HOWEVER TO AN
02:41:51.701 --> 02:41:53.103
AMENDMENT INTRODUCED IN THE BILL
02:41:53.170 --> 02:41:54.271
THAT REVERSES THE STATED PURPOSE
02:41:54.337 --> 02:41:55.972
OF THE BILL.
02:41:56.039 --> 02:41:58.308
ON PAGES TEN STARTING AT LINE
02:41:58.375 --> 02:41:58.942
TWENTY NINE THE BILL STATES IN
02:41:59.009 --> 02:42:00.544
PERTINENT PART THAT.
02:42:00.610 --> 02:42:01.778
IF THE ORDER OF EXCLUSION
02:42:01.845 --> 02:42:04.214
PERTAINS TO A LABOR ORGANIZATION.
02:42:04.281 --> 02:42:05.849
THE TRIBE SO FIRST OBTAIN A
02:42:05.916 --> 02:42:07.350
DECISION FROM THE TRIBAL LABOR
02:42:07.417 --> 02:42:09.753
PANEL STATING THAT THE ORDERS OF
02:42:09.820 --> 02:42:11.488
EXCLUSION DOES NOT CONFLICT WITH
02:42:11.555 --> 02:42:12.355
THE TRIBAL LABOR RELATIONS
02:42:12.422 --> 02:42:14.224
ORDINANCE.
02:42:14.291 --> 02:42:15.659
IN ESSENCE ESTABLISHING THAT THE
02:42:15.725 --> 02:42:18.028
TRIBE MUST FIRST SEEK PERMISSION
02:42:18.095 --> 02:42:19.496
FROM A THIRD PARTY IN ACT IN
02:42:19.563 --> 02:42:20.597
ORDER TO EXERCISE ITS SOVEREIGN
02:42:20.664 --> 02:42:22.132
RIGHT.
02:42:22.199 --> 02:42:23.767
IT IS AT NEW ONCE TO YOUR TODAY
02:42:23.834 --> 02:42:25.435
HE TAKES EXCEPTION WITH.
02:42:25.502 --> 02:42:27.270
INQUIRIES HOW WE STATE LAW CAN
02:42:27.337 --> 02:42:29.005
SEEK TO AMEND THE SUBSTANCE OF
02:42:29.072 --> 02:42:30.240
THE TRIBAL LABOR RELATIONS
02:42:30.307 --> 02:42:31.741
ORDINANCE EMBEDDED IN THE TRIBAL
02:42:31.808 --> 02:42:33.310
STATE COMPACTS WHICH WERE
02:42:33.376 --> 02:42:34.578
NEGOTIATED BY THAT WITH THE
02:42:34.644 --> 02:42:36.346
GOVERNOR AND RATIFIED WITH A TWO
02:42:36.413 --> 02:42:37.981
THIRDS VOTE OF THE LEGISLATURE.
02:42:38.048 --> 02:42:39.116
AND APPROVED BY THE PARTNER OF
02:42:39.182 --> 02:42:40.784
INTERIOR.
02:42:40.851 --> 02:42:41.985
WHILE THE PREFERRED ACTION WOULD
02:42:42.052 --> 02:42:43.253
BE TO RETURN THE BILL TO ITS
02:42:43.320 --> 02:42:45.589
ORIGINAL FORM YOUR TODAY WE WEEK
02:42:45.655 --> 02:42:47.424
YESTERDAY HE WENT TO NATION HAVE
02:42:47.491 --> 02:42:48.225
PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE
02:42:48.291 --> 02:42:49.226
AUTHOR.
02:42:49.292 --> 02:42:50.961
THAT HAVE THUS FAR BEEN REJECTED.
02:42:51.027 --> 02:42:51.561
THE AMENDMENTS EMBRACE THE USE
02:42:51.628 --> 02:42:54.264
OF THE TRIBAL.
02:42:54.331 --> 02:42:55.866
DIMINISH TRIBAL SOVEREIGN RIGHTS
02:42:55.932 --> 02:42:57.200
BY REQUIRING THAT THE TRIBE
02:42:57.267 --> 02:42:58.768
CONVINCE A THIRD PARTY THAT THEY
02:42:58.835 --> 02:43:00.370
HAVE THE POWER TO PROTECT THEIR
02:43:00.437 --> 02:43:01.404
LAND AND PROPERTIES.
02:43:01.471 --> 02:43:03.306
THAT TO A MINUTE THE PROS THE
02:43:03.373 --> 02:43:04.508
POSTMAN WOULD INSTEAD PUT THE
02:43:04.574 --> 02:43:06.710
ONUS ON THE NON TRIBAL ENTITY TO
02:43:06.776 --> 02:43:08.678
CONVINCE THE TRIBAL LABOR PANEL.
02:43:08.745 --> 02:43:09.546
THAT THE EXCLUSION ORDER WAS
02:43:09.613 --> 02:43:11.181
ISSUED A ROBUSTLY AND SOLELY TO
02:43:11.248 --> 02:43:13.283
OTHERWISE IS TO STOP OTHERWISE
02:43:13.350 --> 02:43:14.751
UNLAWFUL ACTIVITY.
02:43:14.818 --> 02:43:16.019
IN ABSENCE OF RETURN THE BILL TO
02:43:16.086 --> 02:43:18.121
ITS ORIGINAL FORM WE ASK THAT
02:43:18.188 --> 02:43:19.289
YOU ADOPT THESE AMENDMENTS AND
02:43:19.356 --> 02:43:20.757
WE MUST CONTINUE TO REMAIN
02:43:20.824 --> 02:43:22.125
OPPOSED IN ITS CURRENT FORM
02:43:22.192 --> 02:43:22.425
[inaudible]
02:43:22.492 --> 02:43:24.094
THANK YOU.
02:43:24.161 --> 02:43:25.662
BUT YES I BROUGHT UP YOU ARE NOT
02:43:25.729 --> 02:43:27.364
TAKING TIME HERE ON BEHALF OF
02:43:27.430 --> 02:43:29.366
THE BROADBAND OF MISSION INDIANS
02:43:29.432 --> 02:43:30.300
WE DO FIND OURSELVES IN AN
02:43:30.367 --> 02:43:31.902
UNFORTUNATE AN UNUSUAL POSITION
02:43:31.968 --> 02:43:33.336
HERE ON THIS BILL.
02:43:33.403 --> 02:43:35.272
IN THE SENSE THAT WE WERE EARLY
02:43:35.338 --> 02:43:36.640
SUPPORTERS OF THE BILL IN ITS
02:43:36.706 --> 02:43:38.542
EARLIER VERSIONS HOWEVER IT TOOK
02:43:38.608 --> 02:43:40.310
A WRONG TURN --
02:43:40.377 --> 02:43:41.711
AS CAROLINE DESCRIBED WITH
02:43:41.778 --> 02:43:43.914
RESPECT TO THIS PROVISION WHERE
02:43:43.980 --> 02:43:45.515
YOU ARE ESSENTIALLY REQUIRING A
02:43:45.582 --> 02:43:47.184
TRIBE TO SEEK PERMISSION TO TAKE
02:43:47.250 --> 02:43:48.618
AN ACTION --
02:43:48.685 --> 02:43:49.819
AND I WOULD ALSO JUST NOTE THAT
02:43:49.886 --> 02:43:53.089
IT IS AN UNUSUAL STANCE FOR US --
02:43:53.156 --> 02:43:54.891
TO TAKEN OPPOSITION POSITION --
02:43:54.958 --> 02:43:55.358
AGAINST --
02:43:55.425 --> 02:43:57.661
AND AUTHOR THAT WE GENERALLY
02:43:57.727 --> 02:43:59.396
VERY MUCH RESPECTS.
02:43:59.462 --> 02:44:00.597
BUT UNFORTUNATELY THAT IS THE
02:44:00.664 --> 02:44:02.465
CASE IN THIS SITUATION SO AT
02:44:02.532 --> 02:44:03.800
THIS TIME WE WOULD ASK THAT THE
02:44:03.867 --> 02:44:04.301
COMMITTEE --
02:44:04.367 --> 02:44:05.602
HOLD THE BILL AND THEN I WOULD
02:44:05.669 --> 02:44:06.937
ALSO ADD --
02:44:07.003 --> 02:44:08.538
AND THAT AFTER THE BILL WAS
02:44:08.605 --> 02:44:10.507
PULLED LAST WEEK WE DID REACH
02:44:10.574 --> 02:44:12.108
OUT TO THE AUTHORS OFFICE TO TRY
02:44:12.175 --> 02:44:12.909
TO SEE IF THERE MIGHT BE A
02:44:12.976 --> 02:44:14.244
DIFFERENT WAY TO THREAD.
02:44:14.311 --> 02:44:15.045
THE NEEDLE --
02:44:15.111 --> 02:44:17.781
ON THE LABOR PROVISION NICOLE
02:44:17.847 --> 02:44:19.049
AND WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS PRETTY
02:44:19.115 --> 02:44:20.317
STRAIGHTFORWARD --
02:44:20.383 --> 02:44:22.152
AND CLARIFYING APPROACH AND THAT
02:44:22.219 --> 02:44:23.820
WAS ESSENTIALLY I REJECTED OUT
02:44:23.887 --> 02:44:25.055
OF HAND --
02:44:25.121 --> 02:44:27.123
WITHOUT MUCH DISCUSSION US SO
02:44:27.190 --> 02:44:29.326
AGAIN WE REGRET THAT WEARING AN
02:44:29.392 --> 02:44:31.928
OPPOSE POSITION AND URGE THE
02:44:31.995 --> 02:44:33.830
COMMITTEE TO STOP THE BILL THAT.
02:44:33.897 --> 02:44:34.965
THANK YOU SEPPALA TREAT ON
02:44:35.031 --> 02:44:37.000
BEHALF OF PECHANGA BATTLE A
02:44:37.067 --> 02:44:38.635
SENIOR MISSION INDIANS --
02:44:38.702 --> 02:44:40.570
ECHOING THE REMARKS OF BOTH YOU
02:44:40.637 --> 02:44:42.339
KNOW CHEN AND VERONA --
02:44:42.405 --> 02:44:43.673
THEIR HUNDRED NINE FEDERALLY
02:44:43.740 --> 02:44:45.141
RECOGNIZED TRIBES IN STATE OF
02:44:45.208 --> 02:44:46.977
CALIFORNIA ALL OUR SOVEREIGN
02:44:47.043 --> 02:44:48.445
NATIONS --
02:44:48.511 --> 02:44:50.180
SO NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE TO DEAL
02:44:50.247 --> 02:44:51.781
WITH PUBLIC LAW TWO EIGHTY BUT
02:44:51.848 --> 02:44:53.149
AT THE SAME TIME AS A SOVEREIGN
02:44:53.216 --> 02:44:55.552
NATION -- WE
02:44:55.619 --> 02:44:57.354
IT'S VERY OBJECTIONABLE TO TO
02:44:57.420 --> 02:44:59.055
BOTH PECHANGA AND I THINK QUITE
02:44:59.122 --> 02:45:00.190
A FEW OTHER TRIBES.
02:45:00.257 --> 02:45:01.725
OUGHT NOT TO SIT DOWN IN THE
02:45:01.791 --> 02:45:03.226
CONSULTATION AND MAYBE ONE OF
02:45:03.293 --> 02:45:04.628
THE ALL TRIBES MEETINGS TO
02:45:04.694 --> 02:45:06.529
DISCUSS HOW THIS AFFECTS US --
02:45:06.596 --> 02:45:08.898
THE IDEA OF OF REQUIRING TRIES
02:45:08.965 --> 02:45:09.966
TO OBTAIN A DECISION FROM A
02:45:10.033 --> 02:45:11.735
THIRD PARTY WHEN WE ARE
02:45:11.801 --> 02:45:12.869
GOVERNMENT TO GOVERNMENT
02:45:12.936 --> 02:45:15.272
NEGOTIATING WITH THE GOVERNOR --
02:45:15.338 --> 02:45:18.208
IS IS NOT RESPECTING SOVEREIGNTY
02:45:18.275 --> 02:45:18.775
AND WE WOULD ASK THAT THE
02:45:18.842 --> 02:45:20.343
COMMITTEE HOLD THE BELL WE WOULD
02:45:20.410 --> 02:45:21.845
LIKE TO WORK WITH.
02:45:21.911 --> 02:45:23.847
VIA THE AUTHOR WHO'S BEEN A GOOD
02:45:23.913 --> 02:45:25.282
FRIEND INDIAN COUNTRY FOR MANY
02:45:25.348 --> 02:45:27.851
YEARS BUT THIS ISN'T COOKED YET.
02:45:27.917 --> 02:45:30.253
AND THE PARTIES INVOLVED IN THIS
02:45:30.320 --> 02:45:32.622
ARE THE OTHER TRIBES THAT ALSO
02:45:32.689 --> 02:45:34.591
NEED TO WAY AND OUT WHO DID
02:45:34.658 --> 02:45:37.294
SUPPORT THE BILL BEFORE
02:45:37.360 --> 02:45:37.594
[inaudible]
02:45:37.661 --> 02:45:39.596
THANK YOU.
02:45:39.663 --> 02:45:40.630
ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
02:45:40.697 --> 02:45:44.434
OPPOSITION.
02:45:44.501 --> 02:45:46.803
OKAY ARE EIGHT ANY QUESTIONS.
02:45:46.870 --> 02:45:50.507
FROM COMMITTEE MEMBERS
02:45:50.573 --> 02:45:50.807
[inaudible]
02:45:50.874 --> 02:45:52.309
YES [inaudible]
02:45:52.375 --> 02:45:54.077
GLENDALE.
02:45:54.144 --> 02:45:55.445
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR AND THINK
02:45:55.512 --> 02:45:56.946
YOU TO ALL THOSE THAT HAVE
02:45:57.013 --> 02:45:58.214
TESTIFIED TODAY INCLUDING THE
02:45:58.281 --> 02:46:00.450
AUTHOR BRING THIS --
02:46:00.517 --> 02:46:01.518
TO TO OUR SIDE OF THE OF THE
02:46:01.584 --> 02:46:03.320
CHAMBER NOW.
02:46:03.386 --> 02:46:05.355
YOU KNOW I AM I'M TRYING TO
02:46:05.422 --> 02:46:07.290
UNDERSTAND TRIBAL SOVEREIGNTY.
02:46:07.357 --> 02:46:09.259
AND TO THE POINT THAT THERE OVER
02:46:09.326 --> 02:46:11.261
A HUNDRED NINE SOVEREIGN NATIONS
02:46:11.328 --> 02:46:14.531
IN OUR STATE AND ENSURING THAT.
02:46:14.597 --> 02:46:16.499
WE S. A LEGISLATIVE BODY ARE NOT
02:46:16.566 --> 02:46:18.335
IMPOSING ON WHAT TRIBAL
02:46:18.401 --> 02:46:20.170
SOVEREIGNTY IS INCLUDING BOTH
02:46:20.236 --> 02:46:22.739
WITH DECISIONS ON LAW
02:46:22.806 --> 02:46:24.240
ENFORCEMENT AS WELL AS SESSIONS
02:46:24.307 --> 02:46:25.608
WITH LABOR WHICH WE WANT TO BE
02:46:25.675 --> 02:46:28.244
SUPPORTIVE UP BUT NOT QUITE SURE
02:46:28.311 --> 02:46:30.613
IF -- ALL
02:46:30.680 --> 02:46:32.082
PARTIES INVOLVED HAVE ACTUALLY
02:46:32.148 --> 02:46:34.117
SAT AT THE TABLE TOGETHER TO TRY
02:46:34.184 --> 02:46:34.718
TO UNDERSTAND AND TRY TO MOVE
02:46:34.784 --> 02:46:36.653
THIS FORWARD I WOULD WANT TO BE
02:46:36.720 --> 02:46:38.521
SUPPORTIVE BUT ALSO ONE
02:46:38.588 --> 02:46:39.622
UNDERSTAND.
02:46:39.689 --> 02:46:41.524
THE IMPACT THAT THIS HOUSE ON
02:46:41.591 --> 02:46:43.159
TRIBAL SOVEREIGNTY AND NATIONS
02:46:43.226 --> 02:46:44.661
ACROSS OUR STATE.
02:46:44.728 --> 02:46:46.096
AND HOW BEST WE CAN DO SOMETHING
02:46:46.162 --> 02:46:47.464
THAT IS --
02:46:47.530 --> 02:46:51.000
ACCEPTED ON ALL ON ALL LEVELS SO --
02:46:51.067 --> 02:46:54.237
WOULD REALLY LIKE TO TO SEE HOW
02:46:54.304 --> 02:46:55.138
THESE CONVERSATIONS HAVE
02:46:55.205 --> 02:46:57.407
HAPPENED OR OCCURRED OR WHAT YOU
02:46:57.474 --> 02:46:58.575
PLAN ON DOING FORWARD TO ENSURE
02:46:58.641 --> 02:47:00.076
THAT.
02:47:00.143 --> 02:47:01.945
THE THE POSITIONS THAT WERE
02:47:02.011 --> 02:47:04.180
TAKEN BEFORE SUCH US SUPPORTING
02:47:04.247 --> 02:47:06.449
THE BILL AND NOW IN ITS AMENDED
02:47:06.516 --> 02:47:08.184
FORM NOT SUPPORTING THE BILL.
02:47:08.251 --> 02:47:09.252
AND WHAT THAT MEANS AND HOW WE
02:47:09.319 --> 02:47:11.421
CAN BEST INTERPRET THAT --
02:47:11.488 --> 02:47:13.089
TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE ONE
02:47:13.156 --> 02:47:14.391
PROTECTING WORKERS AND
02:47:14.457 --> 02:47:16.159
PROTECTING THOSE SIDE.
02:47:16.226 --> 02:47:17.894
LIVE ON ON SOVEREIGN LAND.
02:47:17.961 --> 02:47:19.596
BUT THAT WE ARE WORKING WITH THE
02:47:19.662 --> 02:47:20.964
PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY LIVE IN
02:47:21.030 --> 02:47:23.233
THESE COMMUNITIES. TO ENSURE
02:47:23.299 --> 02:47:24.801
THAT WHAT WE DO AS A LEGISLATIVE
02:47:24.868 --> 02:47:32.308
BODY IT'S HELPFUL.
02:47:32.375 --> 02:47:34.344
CAN I LETTERS LETTER STATEMENT I
02:47:34.411 --> 02:47:36.246
IT WAS OUR BEST CHEST MADE ALL
02:47:36.312 --> 02:47:37.380
CAPS ARE.
02:47:37.447 --> 02:47:37.647
GO AHEAD.
02:47:37.714 --> 02:47:39.149
AND NOT SIMPLY PUT I JUST WANT
02:47:39.215 --> 02:47:40.550
TO SAY THIS THIS BILL.
02:47:40.617 --> 02:47:43.720
HAS IS IS A CULMINATION OF OF
02:47:43.787 --> 02:47:45.255
TECH HAS DECADES OF WORK ON
02:47:45.321 --> 02:47:47.257
BEHALF OF THE TRIBE.
02:47:47.323 --> 02:47:48.057
ARE.
02:47:48.124 --> 02:47:48.691
THEY HAVE WORKED WITH THIS WITH
02:47:48.758 --> 02:47:50.894
THE TURN.
02:47:50.960 --> 02:47:53.763
FEDERAL LAW AS IT PERTAINS TO
02:47:53.830 --> 02:47:55.064
TRIBAL GOVERNMENTS VERY CLEARLY.
02:47:55.131 --> 02:47:56.866
MEAN THAT THERE'S A RELATIONSHIP
02:47:56.933 --> 02:47:58.635
BETWEEN THE STATE.
02:47:58.701 --> 02:47:59.969
AT TRIBAL GOVERNMENTS AND
02:48:00.036 --> 02:48:00.770
WITHOUT --
02:48:00.837 --> 02:48:03.206
STATE APPROVAL MANY.
02:48:03.273 --> 02:48:03.740
TRAVEL ACTIVITIES ARE ARE
02:48:03.807 --> 02:48:05.642
LIMITED.
02:48:05.708 --> 02:48:07.343
AND AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE
02:48:07.410 --> 02:48:09.846
AREAS WHERE WE WE NEED.
02:48:09.913 --> 02:48:11.414
STATE INVOLVEMENT TO CLARIFY THE
02:48:11.481 --> 02:48:14.050
LAW OR TO PERMIT.
02:48:14.117 --> 02:48:16.786
AN ACTIVITY TO HAPPEN JUST LIKE
02:48:16.853 --> 02:48:18.588
WHEN YOU WHEN YOU SIGN A COMPACT
02:48:18.655 --> 02:48:19.923
JUST LIKE WHEN.
02:48:19.989 --> 02:48:21.357
YOU KNOW I I'VE BEEN WORKING
02:48:21.424 --> 02:48:23.460
WITH TRIBES --
02:48:23.526 --> 02:48:27.630
FOR GOING ON FOURTEEN YEARS NOW.
02:48:27.697 --> 02:48:28.865
MAN I I SERVED AT A LOCAL
02:48:28.932 --> 02:48:30.900
COMMITTEE.
02:48:30.967 --> 02:48:33.770
WHERE ACTION WAS REQUIRED FOR US
02:48:33.837 --> 02:48:35.338
TO BE INVOLVED IN PLANNING
02:48:35.405 --> 02:48:36.973
AROUND TRIBES MAKING INVESTMENT
02:48:37.040 --> 02:48:38.641
TRIBE WHAT ROADWAY?
02:48:38.708 --> 02:48:41.311
WATER WAY WE HAVE WE HAVE BILLS
02:48:41.377 --> 02:48:43.913
EVERY YEAR THAT RELATE CHIU.
02:48:43.980 --> 02:48:45.982
OUT WATER DISTRICT ACCESS TO
02:48:46.049 --> 02:48:48.751
WATER HOW WE WE GOVERN OUR YOU
02:48:48.818 --> 02:48:50.153
KNOW AROUND.
02:48:50.220 --> 02:48:52.722
OUR OUR ACTIVITIES IN ND AROUND
02:48:52.789 --> 02:48:54.190
THE RESERVATIONS THERE THERE IS
02:48:54.257 --> 02:48:56.259
A YOU KNOW.
02:48:56.326 --> 02:48:57.861
THERE IS A REQUIREMENT THE STATE
02:48:57.927 --> 02:48:59.462
WORK WITH TRIBES AND MANY AREAS
02:48:59.529 --> 02:49:00.597
IN THERE'S A REQUIREMENT TRIES
02:49:00.663 --> 02:49:01.965
WORK WITH STATE.
02:49:02.031 --> 02:49:03.333
ON MANY AREAS AND THAT REQUIRES
02:49:03.399 --> 02:49:05.668
LEGISLATION --
02:49:05.735 --> 02:49:08.004
WE HAVE EXPERTS THAT HAVE I
02:49:08.071 --> 02:49:09.439
LOOKED INTO THIS AND SAID.
02:49:09.506 --> 02:49:11.241
THAT WE NEED THIS TO ACCOMPLISH
02:49:11.307 --> 02:49:13.176
OUR ULTIMATE GOAL.
02:49:13.243 --> 02:49:13.810
WHEN WE TOOK THAT AMENDMENT THE
02:49:13.877 --> 02:49:16.045
SENATE?
02:49:16.112 --> 02:49:17.914
AND IT DID IT DIDN'T REGISTER AT
02:49:17.981 --> 02:49:19.682
THAT AT THAT LEVEL WHITE RACISTS
02:49:19.749 --> 02:49:21.117
ARE HERE IS IS.
02:49:21.184 --> 02:49:22.218
UNKNOWN TO ME [inaudible]
02:49:22.285 --> 02:49:25.355
BUT AT THE STATE LEVEL WE TOOK
02:49:25.421 --> 02:49:27.257
THAT AMENDMENT IT WAS CONSISTENT
02:49:27.323 --> 02:49:28.558
WITH ACTIONS THAT WE HAVE TAKEN
02:49:28.625 --> 02:49:30.894
ON COMPAQ'S.
02:49:30.960 --> 02:49:32.829
AND ARE THERE A <c.green> TRIBES</c>
02:49:32.896 --> 02:49:35.899
OPPOSED. TWO AT SOME OF THE
02:49:35.965 --> 02:49:39.068
LANGUAGE AND COMPACT ABSOLUTELY
02:49:39.135 --> 02:49:39.335
THEY ARE.
02:49:39.402 --> 02:49:42.739
AND IT'S IT'S IT'S A IT'S A IT'S
02:49:42.805 --> 02:49:46.376
A IT'S NOT A SOVEREIGNTY ISSUE.
02:49:46.442 --> 02:49:48.177
IT'S MORE OF A DISAGREEMENT IN
02:49:48.244 --> 02:49:49.212
TERMS OF HOW [inaudible]
02:49:49.279 --> 02:49:52.348
A THEY SHOULD CONDUCT CERTAIN
02:49:52.415 --> 02:49:53.349
ASPECTS OF THEIR THEIR BUSINESS
02:49:53.416 --> 02:49:55.251
ACTIVITIES.
02:49:55.318 --> 02:49:57.353
AND AND NONE THE LESS THERE HAS
02:49:57.420 --> 02:49:59.889
NEVER BEEN A CHALLENGE TO THAT.
02:49:59.956 --> 02:50:01.691
OTHER THAN A BALLOT INITIATIVE
02:50:01.758 --> 02:50:02.892
BACK AND BACK.
02:50:02.959 --> 02:50:05.128
AWHILE BACK THAT THE CHALLENGED.
02:50:05.194 --> 02:50:07.497
ARE THOSE BEING ADDED TO THE THE
02:50:07.564 --> 02:50:08.698
THE COMPACT WERE OVERTURNED BY
02:50:08.765 --> 02:50:09.699
THE PUBLIC.
02:50:09.766 --> 02:50:12.201
AND IT WAS.
02:50:12.268 --> 02:50:14.003
BUT ACTION THAT REQUIRED AGAIN A
02:50:14.070 --> 02:50:16.306
STATE LAW.
02:50:16.372 --> 02:50:18.741
SO I THINK FOR THE TRIBES MANY
02:50:18.808 --> 02:50:20.643
OF THEM THAT ALREADY HAVE THESE
02:50:20.710 --> 02:50:21.844
PROVISIONS IN THE COMPACT THEY
02:50:21.911 --> 02:50:23.212
SEE IT WE DON'T SEE THE HARM
02:50:23.279 --> 02:50:24.480
BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY.
02:50:24.547 --> 02:50:26.249
A STATE LAW.
02:50:26.316 --> 02:50:30.320
THIS BASICALLY REITERATES --
02:50:30.386 --> 02:50:31.654
THE STATE LAW I THINK FOR IT FOR
02:50:31.721 --> 02:50:33.423
THIS BILL ADVANCE WE WE LOOKED
02:50:33.489 --> 02:50:36.059
AT AND SAID THERE ISN'T A HARM.
02:50:36.125 --> 02:50:37.794
BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY LAW THERE'S
02:50:37.860 --> 02:50:40.263
NO REASON THAT ADDING IT TO THIS
02:50:40.330 --> 02:50:42.265
PROVISION WOULD CREATE.
02:50:42.332 --> 02:50:43.833
A DOES A CREATOR REDUNDANT
02:50:43.900 --> 02:50:45.301
REDUNDANCY YES AT US I AGREE
02:50:45.368 --> 02:50:47.070
WITH THAT.
02:50:47.136 --> 02:50:48.171
BUT DOES THAT CREATE A CONFLICT
02:50:48.237 --> 02:50:49.806
NO IT DOESN'T.
02:50:49.872 --> 02:50:50.907
SO WE DON'T SEE HARM IN ADDING
02:50:50.974 --> 02:50:52.408
THAT.
02:50:52.475 --> 02:50:53.843
AND WE NEVER THOUGHT THAT IT
02:50:53.910 --> 02:50:56.145
BECOMES AN ISSUE. TO BE HONEST
02:50:56.212 --> 02:50:57.547
WITH YOU BECAUSE I MEAN THE
02:50:57.614 --> 02:50:59.182
TRIBES BASICALLY.
02:50:59.248 --> 02:51:01.985
ARE CONSULTED AND SAID --
02:51:02.051 --> 02:51:02.986
IT'S NOT A PROBLEM WE SHOULD
02:51:03.052 --> 02:51:04.954
MOVE FORWARD THERE IS A AS YOU
02:51:05.021 --> 02:51:07.657
SEE A THREE TRIBES MAYBE.
02:51:07.724 --> 02:51:08.691
FOUR ARE OPPOSED TO THIS BUT
02:51:08.758 --> 02:51:10.326
THIS IS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
02:51:10.393 --> 02:51:10.793
HUNDRED NINE TRIBES IN
02:51:10.860 --> 02:51:12.862
CALIFORNIA.
02:51:12.929 --> 02:51:14.530
CHAU EVERY TRIED THIS IN
02:51:14.597 --> 02:51:16.299
OPPOSITION ACTUALLY HAS.
02:51:16.366 --> 02:51:17.533
THIS LABOR RELATIONS POUND THEIR
02:51:17.600 --> 02:51:18.768
CURRENT COMPACT.
02:51:18.835 --> 02:51:21.004
IT DOESN'T PROTECT EMPLOYEES WHO
02:51:21.070 --> 02:51:23.840
COMMIT THESE PETTY CRIMES BUT IT
02:51:23.906 --> 02:51:25.008
ONLY REALLY PROTECT THOSE PEOPLE
02:51:25.074 --> 02:51:26.409
THAT ARE NORMALLY GOING THROUGH
02:51:26.476 --> 02:51:27.877
THEIR ORGANIZING ACTIVITIES.
02:51:27.944 --> 02:51:30.046
SO IT ALLOWS FOR NOTHING MORE
02:51:30.113 --> 02:51:31.214
THAT'S ALREADY AGREED TO BUY
02:51:31.280 --> 02:51:34.217
THOSE TRIBES IN THEIR COMPACTS.
02:51:34.283 --> 02:51:36.486
COME OUT OF THE OF COURSE
02:51:36.552 --> 02:51:36.786
[inaudible]
02:51:36.853 --> 02:51:38.254
WELL SCUD.
02:51:38.321 --> 02:51:39.656
I WAS SO --
02:51:39.722 --> 02:51:40.857
THAT TOUCHES UPON SOMEONE I WAS
02:51:40.923 --> 02:51:42.425
GONNA ASK AYE AYE PROPS ONE TO
02:51:42.492 --> 02:51:43.693
BE OPPOSITION A CHANCE TO
02:51:43.760 --> 02:51:44.927
RESPOND TO THAT POINT IN
02:51:44.994 --> 02:51:46.763
PARTICULAR THIS --
02:51:46.829 --> 02:51:48.164
GOES NO FURTHER THAN WHAT'S
02:51:48.231 --> 02:51:50.733
CURRENTLY IN THE CONTACTS.
02:51:50.800 --> 02:51:52.635
YOU I WON'T I'M TICKET TAKE A
02:51:52.702 --> 02:51:54.537
STAB AT THAT ON IT IS MY
02:51:54.604 --> 02:51:56.639
UNDERSTANDING THAT IT'S NOT SO
02:51:56.706 --> 02:51:58.841
MUCH THE PROCESS IT'S THE ORDER
02:51:58.908 --> 02:52:00.376
OF THE PROCESS.
02:52:00.443 --> 02:52:02.578
THAT IS AT ISSUE IN TERMS OF IT
02:52:02.645 --> 02:52:03.680
WHEN OF THIS CLEARANCE AND
02:52:03.746 --> 02:52:06.115
PERMISSION MIGHT BE SOUGHT.
02:52:06.182 --> 02:52:07.583
AND PERCENT TO THE LANGUAGE IN
02:52:07.650 --> 02:52:08.651
THE BILL.
02:52:08.718 --> 02:52:09.385
SO -- YOU
02:52:09.452 --> 02:52:12.488
KNOW FROM AROUND THIS PART --
02:52:12.555 --> 02:52:15.925
REACHED OUT TO TRY TO CLARIFY
02:52:15.992 --> 02:52:17.560
THAT ANY --
02:52:17.627 --> 02:52:19.128
ANYTHING THAT MIGHT INVOLVE A
02:52:19.195 --> 02:52:21.497
PRE CLEARANCE ELEMENTS AND THE
02:52:21.564 --> 02:52:22.999
AND THIS YOU KNOW UP THERE SOME
02:52:23.066 --> 02:52:24.534
VARIATIONS OF THAT OPINION BUT
02:52:24.600 --> 02:52:25.768
THIS IS WHY DISCUSSION IS
02:52:25.835 --> 02:52:27.003
NECESSARY.
02:52:27.070 --> 02:52:29.105
BUT FOR BARONE IS PART WE HAVE
02:52:29.172 --> 02:52:31.941
ATTEMPTED TO CLARIFY THAT THE
02:52:32.008 --> 02:52:33.342
ONLY --
02:52:33.409 --> 02:52:35.078
EXCLUSION ORDERS THAT MIGHT
02:52:35.144 --> 02:52:37.346
BECOME UNDER THIS PRE CLEARANCE
02:52:37.413 --> 02:52:39.382
BY THE LABOR PANEL --
02:52:39.449 --> 02:52:42.618
PROCESS WHITNEY THOSE ACTIONS
02:52:42.685 --> 02:52:44.787
THAT ARE CLEARLY --
02:52:44.854 --> 02:52:45.888
LABOR RELATED ACTIVITY.
02:52:45.955 --> 02:52:48.291
AND WE THINK THAT THAT IS A FAIR
02:52:48.357 --> 02:52:50.259
LIMITATION ON THIS SORT OF
02:52:50.326 --> 02:52:53.229
PERMISSION OR PRE CLEARANCE UP
02:52:53.296 --> 02:52:54.630
PROCESS --
02:52:54.697 --> 02:52:57.800
BUT WE WHAT WE WANT TO CLARIFY A
02:52:57.867 --> 02:52:59.302
AND WE OFFERED WHAT WE THOUGHT
02:52:59.368 --> 02:53:02.839
AND WAS REALLY SORT OF SURGICAL --
02:53:02.905 --> 02:53:05.675
FOCUS TO CLARIFYING LANGUAGE --
02:53:05.742 --> 02:53:07.643
WAS TO CLARIFY THAT IF THERE ARE
02:53:07.710 --> 02:53:10.780
ANY TRULY ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES
02:53:10.847 --> 02:53:13.716
THAT GO WELL BEYOND LEGAL --
02:53:13.783 --> 02:53:15.351
LABOR ACTIVITIES THEN THAT WOULD
02:53:15.418 --> 02:53:16.719
NOT BE SUBJECT TO THE PRE
02:53:16.786 --> 02:53:18.488
CLEARANCE.
02:53:18.554 --> 02:53:21.023
SO THAT'S ONE IDEA AND ONE
02:53:21.090 --> 02:53:23.092
EXAMPLE THAT WAS FLOATED BUT
02:53:23.159 --> 02:53:23.960
THERE WAS NO MEANINGFUL
02:53:24.026 --> 02:53:26.929
DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT IDEA --
02:53:26.996 --> 02:53:28.164
INSTEAD THERE WAS JUST AS SORT
02:53:28.231 --> 02:53:30.199
OF AN OUTRIGHT DISMISSAL.
02:53:30.266 --> 02:53:31.667
BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT TOO IF
02:53:31.734 --> 02:53:33.636
IF -- STAFF
02:53:33.703 --> 02:53:35.571
CAN ADD CASSIN'S LETTER WHICH IS
02:53:35.638 --> 02:53:36.839
THE TRIBAL LINES A SOVEREIGN
02:53:36.906 --> 02:53:38.441
INDIAN NATIONS WHICH REPRESENTS
02:53:38.508 --> 02:53:40.243
THE SOUTHERN NEVADA TRIBES AYE
02:53:40.309 --> 02:53:40.877
MEANS THAT SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
02:53:40.943 --> 02:53:41.878
TRIBES.
02:53:41.944 --> 02:53:43.913
AND THEY'RE ALSO IN OPPOSITION --
02:53:43.980 --> 02:53:48.351
AS WELL AS P. CHUNKS LETTER
02:53:48.417 --> 02:53:50.052
OF THEM ON JUST FOR PUT AND SO
02:53:50.119 --> 02:53:51.854
IT'S MORE THAN JUST THREE TRIBES
02:53:51.921 --> 02:53:53.189
THEIR POSTINGS.
02:53:53.256 --> 02:53:54.657
REFORM PASS OUT AND RETURN
02:53:54.724 --> 02:53:57.794
SUPPORT.
02:53:57.860 --> 02:53:58.427
YOU KNOW THE DAHLE CANCELLATIONS
02:53:58.494 --> 02:54:01.697
ON EKEUS ACTS AS SORT OF I
02:54:01.764 --> 02:54:02.498
THROUGH THE TRIBES IN SUPPORTER
02:54:02.565 --> 02:54:04.300
AT DO YOU AGREE.
02:54:04.367 --> 02:54:05.201
THAT.
02:54:05.268 --> 02:54:06.435
IN OPPOSING A THIRD PARTY IN THE
02:54:06.502 --> 02:54:08.905
FORM OF THE THE TRIBAL LABOR
02:54:08.971 --> 02:54:11.541
PANEL -- IS.
02:54:11.607 --> 02:54:13.242
SOME INTRUSION ON TRIBAL
02:54:13.309 --> 02:54:14.710
SOVEREIGNTY OR DO YOU DISAGREE I
02:54:14.777 --> 02:54:16.212
DISAGREE IT'S OUR ARMY SOMETHING
02:54:16.279 --> 02:54:17.747
WE WOULD AGREE.
02:54:17.814 --> 02:54:19.048
TO AGAIN AMBER OWNERS LETTER
02:54:19.115 --> 02:54:21.484
THEY CITE EXAMPLES IN EMPLOYEE
02:54:21.551 --> 02:54:23.753
WHO STEALS A PURSE.
02:54:23.820 --> 02:54:25.922
THAT EMPLOYEE WOULD BE FIRED FOR
02:54:25.988 --> 02:54:27.857
VIOLATION OF OF THAT.
02:54:27.924 --> 02:54:30.026
THAT THE COMPANY IS POLICY.
02:54:30.092 --> 02:54:32.495
THEY'RE NOT ORGANIZING.
02:54:32.562 --> 02:54:34.263
THEY WOULD BE FIRED THAT'S THE
02:54:34.330 --> 02:54:35.898
EXAMPLE OF THE BARONE A LADDER
02:54:35.965 --> 02:54:37.600
SO YOU HAVE TO CLARIFY AGAIN OF
02:54:37.667 --> 02:54:38.768
A PERSON'S.
02:54:38.835 --> 02:54:40.136
AN EMPLOYEE WHOSE NORMIE
02:54:40.203 --> 02:54:42.038
ORGANIZING.
02:54:42.104 --> 02:54:42.872
THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD GO TO
02:54:42.939 --> 02:54:44.774
REGULATIONS PANEL THAT EMPLOYEE
02:54:44.841 --> 02:54:47.043
VIOLATES THEIR TRIBES IN THE
02:54:47.109 --> 02:54:48.544
CASINOS POLICIES RELATIVE
02:54:48.611 --> 02:54:49.946
DISTILLING A PURSE.
02:54:50.012 --> 02:54:52.181
THEY WOULD BE FIRED THERE'S NO
02:54:52.248 --> 02:54:53.749
NEED TO GO TO THE LABOR
02:54:53.816 --> 02:54:55.384
RELATIONS PANEL MANDATORY.
02:54:55.451 --> 02:54:56.252
AND THAT'S LEGAL OPINION YOU
02:54:56.319 --> 02:54:57.954
KNOW.
02:54:58.020 --> 02:54:59.355
I AT THE RISK OF TOO MUCH OF A
02:54:59.422 --> 02:55:00.456
BACK AND FORTH FAMILY AND SHARE
02:55:00.523 --> 02:55:01.524
WITH YOUR PERMISSION PERHAPS I
02:55:01.591 --> 02:55:02.124
CAN GIVE --
02:55:02.191 --> 02:55:03.392
THE OPPOSITION A CHANCE TO
02:55:03.459 --> 02:55:05.228
ADDRESS THAT POINT.
02:55:05.294 --> 02:55:06.929
WE WE WOULD ARGUE AND OF COURSE
02:55:06.996 --> 02:55:08.564
LAWYERS HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS
02:55:08.631 --> 02:55:10.800
AND DIFFERENT ANALYSES BUT YOU
02:55:10.867 --> 02:55:12.735
KNOW THAT IS THAT IS ALMOST
02:55:12.802 --> 02:55:13.502
EXACTLY THE POINT THAT WE'RE
02:55:13.569 --> 02:55:15.071
TRYING TO MAKE VERY CRYSTAL
02:55:15.137 --> 02:55:16.038
CLEAR.
02:55:16.105 --> 02:55:18.040
AND WE OFFERED LITERALLY A THREE
02:55:18.107 --> 02:55:19.709
OR FOUR WERE CHANGE --
02:55:19.775 --> 02:55:22.245
IN THE RELEVANT LANGUAGE I TRY
02:55:22.311 --> 02:55:25.181
TO PROVIDE THAT CLARITY AND WE
02:55:25.248 --> 02:55:27.316
DO BELIEVE THAT ADDITIONAL
02:55:27.383 --> 02:55:28.818
DISCUSSION.
02:55:28.885 --> 02:55:31.854
COULD BEAR FRUIT ON THIS POINT
02:55:31.921 --> 02:55:34.423
BUT TO DATE WHAT WE'VE RECEIVED
02:55:34.490 --> 02:55:35.925
IS -- SORT
02:55:35.992 --> 02:55:37.326
OF REJECTIONS VIA A EMAIL
02:55:37.393 --> 02:55:39.528
FRANKLY AND I THINK THAT AS PAUL
02:55:39.595 --> 02:55:41.063
APPOINTED OUT SORT OF IT MORE
02:55:41.130 --> 02:55:43.432
ALL TRIBES APPROACH --
02:55:43.499 --> 02:55:45.001
THAT THAT IS --
02:55:45.067 --> 02:55:45.468
THAT --
02:55:45.534 --> 02:55:47.069
WHERE THERE'S A WILLINGNESS TO
02:55:47.136 --> 02:55:48.738
HAVE A DISCUSSION TO ACHIEVE
02:55:48.804 --> 02:55:51.240
THIS CLARITY IS WHAT IS REALLY
02:55:51.307 --> 02:55:52.708
DESIRED AND NEEDED AT THIS POINT?
02:55:52.775 --> 02:55:55.344
OKAY ORDER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS
02:55:55.411 --> 02:55:55.878
FROM COMMITTEE MEMBERS THE
02:55:55.945 --> 02:55:56.746
THROUGHPUT CLICK.
02:55:56.812 --> 02:55:58.547
OBVIOUSLY BY THIS DISCUSSION
02:55:58.614 --> 02:55:59.849
SHOWS THERE'S SOME.
02:55:59.916 --> 02:56:01.050
SOME REAL SENSITIVITIES HERE
02:56:01.117 --> 02:56:02.485
THAT I BELIEVE STILL NEED TO BE
02:56:02.551 --> 02:56:03.653
WORKED THROUGH.
02:56:03.719 --> 02:56:05.421
I WILL SUPPORT TODAY BUT IF SOME
02:56:05.488 --> 02:56:07.056
OF THOSE SENSITIVITIES CONTINUE
02:56:07.123 --> 02:56:08.157
TO BE A CONCERN I MAY CHANGE
02:56:08.224 --> 02:56:10.726
THAT SUPPORT [inaudible]
02:56:10.793 --> 02:56:12.595
QUESTION.
02:56:12.662 --> 02:56:15.398
YOU MAY CLOSE WAS HUESO.
02:56:15.464 --> 02:56:17.266
THANK YOU AND I APPRECIATE YOUR
02:56:17.333 --> 02:56:19.669
SUPPORT TODAY --
02:56:19.735 --> 02:56:21.270
IF YOU KNOW AGAIN THIS THIS --
02:56:21.337 --> 02:56:23.272
BILL WAS THOROUGHLY REVIEWED AT
02:56:23.339 --> 02:56:25.308
THE SENATE LEVEL AND YOU KNOW WE
02:56:25.374 --> 02:56:26.909
WE CAME UP THROUGH.
02:56:26.976 --> 02:56:31.213
OF BIPARTISAN SUPPORT FOR IT --
02:56:31.280 --> 02:56:32.648
YOU KNOW I WE WE TRY TO MAKE
02:56:32.715 --> 02:56:34.483
THIS ALL THE LANGUAGE CONSISTENT
02:56:34.550 --> 02:56:35.451
WITH CURRENTLY WHAT'S THE
02:56:35.518 --> 02:56:37.520
CURRENT STATE LAW.
02:56:37.586 --> 02:56:39.755
WHY OTHER PEOPLE HAVE LANGUAGE
02:56:39.822 --> 02:56:41.123
THAT'S PERMISSIVE THAT ALLOWS
02:56:41.190 --> 02:56:42.525
LAW ENFORCEMENT A STEP AND WE
02:56:42.591 --> 02:56:44.460
BASICALLY TOOK THAT?
02:56:44.527 --> 02:56:46.128
AND AND INSERTED INTO --
02:56:46.195 --> 02:56:47.296
ALLOWING TRIBES TO GET THE SAME
02:56:47.363 --> 02:56:48.998
SERVICES.
02:56:49.065 --> 02:56:51.634
A AS CALIPHATE MEAN THEY ARE --
02:56:51.701 --> 02:56:54.103
SOVEREIGN.
02:56:54.170 --> 02:56:55.905
A THEY ARE SOVEREIGN GOVERNMENTS
02:56:55.972 --> 02:56:57.640
BUT THEY ALSO ARE CALIFORNIA
02:56:57.707 --> 02:56:58.674
CORPORATIONS TO PROVIDE
02:56:58.741 --> 02:57:00.142
EMPLOYMENT TO CALIFORNIA'S THAT
02:57:00.209 --> 02:57:01.377
PROVIDE A HUGE BENEFIT TO OUR
02:57:01.444 --> 02:57:02.912
STATE.
02:57:02.979 --> 02:57:04.347
AND THEY SHOULD BE PROVIDE THE
02:57:04.413 --> 02:57:05.581
SAME SERVICES AS AS OTHER
02:57:05.648 --> 02:57:07.149
BUSINESSES.
02:57:07.216 --> 02:57:08.617
BECAUSE THEY DO MAKE A OF
02:57:08.684 --> 02:57:10.219
MEANINGFUL CONTRIBUTION TO OUR
02:57:10.286 --> 02:57:12.321
ECONOMY AND TO OUR QUALITY OF
02:57:12.388 --> 02:57:14.523
LIFE IN CALIFORNIA AND I HOPE
02:57:14.590 --> 02:57:14.857
THAT WE CAN.
02:57:14.924 --> 02:57:18.027
A YOU KNOW SEE SEE THE SENSE IN
02:57:18.094 --> 02:57:18.661
WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH
02:57:18.728 --> 02:57:19.962
HERE.
02:57:20.029 --> 02:57:21.564
AND SEE THAT IT DOES MAKE SENSE
02:57:21.630 --> 02:57:23.566
SEE THAT IT'S CONSISTENT AND SEE
02:57:23.632 --> 02:57:25.368
THAT NO ONE WILL BE HARMED BY IT.
02:57:25.434 --> 02:57:27.069
ONLY PEOPLE WILL BE HELPED AND
02:57:27.136 --> 02:57:28.471
AND THAT'S WHY WE SHOULD BEFORE
02:57:28.537 --> 02:57:29.638
WITH THIS BILL LAST FOR YOUR
02:57:29.705 --> 02:57:31.073
SUPPORT TO THANK YOU.
02:57:31.140 --> 02:57:34.643
THANK YOU AND UP AYE PUBLISHES
02:57:34.710 --> 02:57:36.212
LOOK WHEN WHEN BILLS COME OVER
02:57:36.278 --> 02:57:38.481
FROM PUBLIC SAFETY TO OUR SIDE
02:57:38.547 --> 02:57:40.583
PUBLIC SAFETY. TO TO THE SENATE
02:57:40.649 --> 02:57:42.084
SIDE HAVE TO SAY THAT BECAUSE
02:57:42.151 --> 02:57:44.120
THE STEAM CHAIRWOMAN OF PUBLIC
02:57:44.186 --> 02:57:46.355
SAFETY IS RIGHT BEHIND YOU --
02:57:46.422 --> 02:57:46.822
WHICH WE SOMETIMES SEE
02:57:46.889 --> 02:57:48.124
SOMETHING'S.
02:57:48.190 --> 02:57:49.859
THAT I DIDN'T SEE THAT SHE
02:57:49.925 --> 02:57:52.495
DIDN'T SEE AND AND AND WE WE ASK
02:57:52.561 --> 02:57:54.030
THOSE QUESTIONS SO IT'S NOT.
02:57:54.096 --> 02:57:56.032
THAT WE BELIEVE THAT THE SENATE
02:57:56.098 --> 02:57:57.199
DID NOT DO THEIR DUE DILIGENCE
02:57:57.266 --> 02:57:59.068
ACTUALLY DO BELIEVE THAT.
02:57:59.135 --> 02:58:01.637
AND I WOULD NEVER DISRESPECT.
02:58:01.704 --> 02:58:03.839
I CHAIR PUBLIC SAFETY BY BY
02:58:03.906 --> 02:58:05.274
SAYING THAT ESPECIALLY SINCE
02:58:05.341 --> 02:58:06.876
SHE'S IN THE ROOM BUT I HOPE THE
02:58:06.942 --> 02:58:08.978
CLERK WILL HELP YOU CLARIFY IT
02:58:09.045 --> 02:58:09.678
YES.
02:58:09.745 --> 02:58:11.847
I ALSO WANT.
02:58:11.914 --> 02:58:14.116
THEY ALSO SAY DO PUT OUT AT NO
02:58:14.183 --> 02:58:15.684
UNTIL I GOT MORE INFORMATION
02:58:15.751 --> 02:58:17.753
ALLEN THANK YOU SENATOR HUESO
02:58:17.820 --> 02:58:20.589
YOU AND AND OTHERS WHO CORRECTED
02:58:20.656 --> 02:58:21.223
ME ON SOME INFORMATION THAT THAT
02:58:21.290 --> 02:58:22.558
WAS WRONG.
02:58:22.625 --> 02:58:24.360
INFO ONCE I GOT THAT AND MORE
02:58:24.427 --> 02:58:27.263
CLARITY IT BECAME ON THAT'S WHY
02:58:27.329 --> 02:58:28.297
WENT TO A NON.
02:58:28.364 --> 02:58:31.467
RECOMMENDATION --
02:58:31.534 --> 02:58:33.602
AND IT TEARS MY HERE MY ISSUES
02:58:33.669 --> 02:58:35.337
OUT IT STARTS WITH THIS WHOLE
02:58:35.404 --> 02:58:37.139
NOTION.
02:58:37.206 --> 02:58:39.208
OF DEA'S AND LAW ENFORCEMENT NOT
02:58:39.275 --> 02:58:40.843
DOING THEIR JOB.
02:58:40.910 --> 02:58:42.912
THAT IN SOME PARTS OF THE STATE
02:58:42.978 --> 02:58:44.780
THEY ARE ENFORCING THE TRUST
02:58:44.847 --> 02:58:46.549
PASS LAWS AND IN SOME.
02:58:46.615 --> 02:58:47.616
THEY DOING.
02:58:47.683 --> 02:58:48.751
TO OF DOING IT OR NOT
02:58:48.818 --> 02:58:49.051
[inaudible]
02:58:49.118 --> 02:58:51.320
TO THAT.
02:58:51.387 --> 02:58:52.755
BOB THIS MEET TO KNOW WHEN.
02:58:52.822 --> 02:58:54.290
AND I WANT TO THANK THE MEMBERS
02:58:54.356 --> 02:58:55.925
THAT CAME IN TODAY BECAUSE WE
02:58:55.991 --> 02:58:57.193
HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT AND
02:58:57.259 --> 02:58:58.727
THIS IS WHERE I'M GOING WITH A
02:58:58.794 --> 02:59:01.430
REALLY GOOD ONE HOUR FORTY FIVE
02:59:01.497 --> 02:59:02.932
MINUTE DISCUSSION.
02:59:02.998 --> 02:59:04.767
AND I THINK WE ALMOST CAME.
02:59:04.834 --> 02:59:06.268
TO A RESOLUTION WOULDN'T COME TO
02:59:06.335 --> 02:59:08.003
A RESOLUTION BUT WE GOT REAL
02:59:08.070 --> 02:59:09.605
CLOSE TO HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING
02:59:09.672 --> 02:59:11.507
HOW WE COULD GET PAST.
02:59:11.574 --> 02:59:13.542
ENSURING THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT
02:59:13.609 --> 02:59:15.945
WILL ENFORCE TO TRESPASS LAWS --
02:59:16.011 --> 02:59:17.713
DATA ON THE BOOKS NOW ANY
02:59:17.780 --> 02:59:19.515
AUTHORITY THAT THEY HAVE NOW IT
02:59:19.582 --> 02:59:21.317
DO WE NEED TO TWEAK SOME WORDING --
02:59:21.383 --> 02:59:22.751
A FORTUNE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH
02:59:22.818 --> 02:59:24.253
TIME TO COME TO COMPLETE THAT
02:59:24.320 --> 02:59:26.255
BUT I FELT REALLY GOOD THAT JUST
02:59:26.322 --> 02:59:27.423
IN A FORTY FIVE MINUTE
02:59:27.490 --> 02:59:28.491
DISCUSSION.
02:59:28.557 --> 02:59:30.759
WERE ABLE TO TUNE TO MOVE THE
02:59:30.826 --> 02:59:32.228
BALL A LITTLE BIT --
02:59:32.294 --> 02:59:33.295
I STILL HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT DUE
02:59:33.362 --> 02:59:36.565
PROCESS --
02:59:36.632 --> 02:59:38.167
WHETHER AYE TO TRIBAL AUTHORITY.
02:59:38.234 --> 02:59:40.302
ON THE COUNCIL WAYS AND LABOR
02:59:40.369 --> 02:59:41.937
WHETHER IT'S TO WANTED TO GOING
02:59:42.004 --> 02:59:44.640
TO DO THE IT DID MAKE A DECISION
02:59:44.707 --> 02:59:46.442
WHO BE EXPELLED A HOOT NOT THAT
02:59:46.509 --> 02:59:47.743
THAT BOTHERS YOU GONNA KEEP
02:59:47.810 --> 02:59:47.977
ASKING.
02:59:48.043 --> 02:59:50.246
WHO IS IT AND I GOT SOME CLARITY
02:59:50.312 --> 02:59:51.714
ON?
02:59:51.780 --> 02:59:53.282
WE KNOW PEOPLE WHO ARE RISK TO
02:59:53.349 --> 02:59:54.950
PUBLIC SAFETY.
02:59:55.017 --> 02:59:55.584
BUT I GET BACK TO GET BACK TO LA
02:59:55.651 --> 02:59:58.287
FORCE -- BY
02:59:58.354 --> 02:59:59.855
AS I SAID IN THE MEETING
02:59:59.922 --> 03:00:01.724
SOMEBODY WALKS INTO THE CASINO
03:00:01.790 --> 03:00:04.326
HAVE FIRED FIVE ROUNDS OFF WOULD
03:00:04.393 --> 03:00:05.828
IT WOULD IT WOULD IT WOULD A GUN.
03:00:05.895 --> 03:00:07.329
YOU'RE TELLING ME THEY CAN COME
03:00:07.396 --> 03:00:08.831
BACK TOMORROW FIRE FIVE ROUNDS
03:00:08.898 --> 03:00:10.499
IS SOMETHING.
03:00:10.566 --> 03:00:11.600
SOMETHING LAW ENFORCEMENT NOT
03:00:11.667 --> 03:00:13.002
BEEN ARRESTED MORE TO GOING TO
03:00:13.068 --> 03:00:13.903
TAKE A MOUNTAIN CATCH AND
03:00:13.969 --> 03:00:16.372
RELEASE THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG.
03:00:16.438 --> 03:00:17.940
WITH IT IT'S NOT MAKING ANY
03:00:18.007 --> 03:00:19.241
SENSE TO ME SOMEBODY'S GOTTA GO
03:00:19.308 --> 03:00:20.743
TO JAIL.
03:00:20.809 --> 03:00:22.278
AT LEAST FOR A LITTLE WHILE TO A
03:00:22.344 --> 03:00:23.712
MAKE BAIL BUT THAT'S A WHOLE
03:00:23.779 --> 03:00:24.813
NOTHER DISCUSSION IT WILL HAVE
03:00:24.880 --> 03:00:25.080
RIGHT NOW.
03:00:25.147 --> 03:00:30.586
AND I THAT THAT BOTHERS ME. TO
03:00:30.653 --> 03:00:32.821
KNOW WHEN THAT THAT THAT'S THE
03:00:32.888 --> 03:00:33.722
CASE AND THEN THIS WHOLE PROCESS
03:00:33.789 --> 03:00:34.023
[inaudible]
03:00:34.089 --> 03:00:36.525
DUE PROCESS AND THE REASON YOU
03:00:36.592 --> 03:00:37.893
GO TO THE COURTS.
03:00:37.960 --> 03:00:39.795
THIRD PARTY IS SO THAT WE CAN
03:00:39.862 --> 03:00:41.297
ENSURE THAT.
03:00:41.363 --> 03:00:42.631
IT'S NOT PERSONAL.
03:00:42.698 --> 03:00:44.733
IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S DONE
03:00:44.800 --> 03:00:47.303
ARBITRARY CAPRICIOUS THAT THAT
03:00:47.369 --> 03:00:49.305
THAT IT'S DATA TRIBAL COUNCIL
03:00:49.371 --> 03:00:51.006
RULES AND REGULATIONS.
03:00:51.073 --> 03:00:53.075
MAYBE SIMILAR BUT WELFARE
03:00:53.142 --> 03:00:53.976
DISCUSSION WHETHER NOT IN THE
03:00:54.043 --> 03:00:55.177
SAME AS TO STATE COURTS AND
03:00:55.244 --> 03:00:56.512
WE'RE GOING BACK AND FORTH AND I
03:00:56.579 --> 03:00:57.813
THOUGHT.
03:00:57.880 --> 03:00:59.682
DATE DO YOU OFFER.
03:00:59.748 --> 03:01:00.749
THAT WERE MADE IN MY OFFICE THAT
03:01:00.816 --> 03:01:03.085
WE HAVE MEMBERS OF PUBLIC SAFETY
03:01:03.152 --> 03:01:03.886
GO OUT.
03:01:03.953 --> 03:01:05.387
AND ACTUALLY VIEW TO COURT AND
03:01:05.454 --> 03:01:07.289
SEE HOW THEY ADJUDICATE.
03:01:07.356 --> 03:01:07.890
THESE PROBLEMS WOULD WOULD BE
03:01:07.957 --> 03:01:10.392
GOOD -- BUT
03:01:10.459 --> 03:01:13.596
I GUESS IT'S BACK.
03:01:13.662 --> 03:01:15.531
TO YOU KNOW WE NEED MORE TIME.
03:01:15.598 --> 03:01:17.199
AND CARD ROOMS [inaudible]
03:01:17.266 --> 03:01:22.304
AND RACE TRACKS ARE NOT
03:01:22.371 --> 03:01:24.907
SOVEREIGN NATIONS.
03:01:24.974 --> 03:01:26.375
SO THE COMPARED TO TO SAY THEY
03:01:26.442 --> 03:01:28.143
SHOULD HAVE THE SAME THE REASON
03:01:28.210 --> 03:01:29.878
WE'RE HERE IS BECAUSE THEY'RE
03:01:29.945 --> 03:01:31.380
NOT THE SAME THEY'RE NOT.
03:01:31.447 --> 03:01:32.615
THE RACE TRACK IS NOT A
03:01:32.681 --> 03:01:33.882
SOVEREIGN NATION EVEN THOUGH
03:01:33.949 --> 03:01:34.850
THEY MAY THINK THEY ARE THEY ARE
03:01:34.917 --> 03:01:36.552
NOT A SOVEREIGN NATION.
03:01:36.619 --> 03:01:37.853
AND SO WE'RE HERE BECAUSE OF
03:01:37.920 --> 03:01:39.088
THAT.
03:01:39.154 --> 03:01:42.391
AND SO I I'M GOOD AND NOT VOTE
03:01:42.458 --> 03:01:43.559
AND I WOULD HOPE.
03:01:43.626 --> 03:01:46.128
THAT OTHER MEMBERS NOT.
03:01:46.195 --> 03:01:47.196
VOTE.
03:01:47.263 --> 03:01:49.398
LAYOFF TODAY SO THAT.
03:01:49.465 --> 03:01:50.933
THEN IT GOES [inaudible] TO
03:01:51.000 --> 03:01:52.434
WHERE.
03:01:52.501 --> 03:01:54.236
AND I WOULD ASK.
03:01:54.303 --> 03:01:55.638
IT DOESN'T PASS BASS
03:01:55.704 --> 03:01:56.905
RECONSIDERATION AND THAT WE
03:01:56.972 --> 03:01:58.574
FORCE EVERYBODY.
03:01:58.641 --> 03:02:00.542
COME TOGETHER BIND BEFORE NEXT
03:02:00.609 --> 03:02:02.711
WEEK TO LEASE START IRON SOME OF
03:02:02.778 --> 03:02:04.113
THESE OUT TO THE ONLY FILL
03:02:04.179 --> 03:02:05.347
HAPPEN NEXT WEEK.
03:02:05.414 --> 03:02:06.782
IF IT FAILS TODAY.
03:02:06.849 --> 03:02:08.484
IS IS A UPPER DOWN VOTE
03:02:08.550 --> 03:02:08.784
[inaudible]
03:02:08.851 --> 03:02:10.719
AND UNLESS.
03:02:10.786 --> 03:02:12.054
CHAIR CAN SEE SOME PROGRESS
03:02:12.121 --> 03:02:12.354
[inaudible]
03:02:12.421 --> 03:02:13.789
AND NOT HEY I'VE BEEN IN THE
03:02:13.856 --> 03:02:15.357
MIDDLE.
03:02:15.424 --> 03:02:17.726
OF SOME BATTLES.
03:02:17.793 --> 03:02:19.094
BETWEEN.
03:02:19.161 --> 03:02:21.297
TWO VERY POWERFUL ENTITIES.
03:02:21.363 --> 03:02:22.931
AND ARE I DON'T RELISH PUTTING
03:02:22.998 --> 03:02:24.833
MYSELF.
03:02:24.900 --> 03:02:25.467
IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS COMMITTEE
03:02:25.534 --> 03:02:26.468
IN THE MIDDLE.
03:02:26.535 --> 03:02:27.536
BUT I SURE DON'T WANNA PUT THE
03:02:27.603 --> 03:02:29.238
ENTIRE LEGISLATURE ON THE
03:02:29.305 --> 03:02:30.839
ASSEMBLY SIDE IN THE MIDDLE OF A
03:02:30.906 --> 03:02:32.574
FAMILY.
03:02:32.641 --> 03:02:34.576
I SAY THAT AND SO AT AT THIS
03:02:34.643 --> 03:02:36.645
POINT I'M HOPING THAT THIS
03:02:36.712 --> 03:02:38.447
COMMITTEE WOULD AT LEAST.
03:02:38.514 --> 03:02:39.715
GIVE THE PARTIES [inaudible]
03:02:39.782 --> 03:02:41.750
AND ME.
03:02:41.817 --> 03:02:43.919
SOME TIME TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT
03:02:43.986 --> 03:02:45.487
SOME WAYS WE CAN COME.
03:02:45.554 --> 03:02:46.221
TO ON SOME REASONABLE
03:02:46.288 --> 03:02:48.357
ACCOMMODATIONS.
03:02:48.424 --> 03:02:49.758
AT LEAST GIVE TO FAILING THAT
03:02:49.825 --> 03:02:50.459
EVERYBODY'S GOING TO WORK
03:02:50.526 --> 03:02:52.995
TOGETHER SO IF IT DOES GET OUT
03:02:53.062 --> 03:02:54.930
NEXT WEEK WE KNOW IT'S GOING THE
03:02:54.997 --> 03:02:56.031
RIGHT PLACE TOWARDS [inaudible]
03:02:56.098 --> 03:02:59.368
THE FIRST FLOOR.
03:02:59.435 --> 03:03:01.904
AND SO THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING
03:03:01.970 --> 03:03:03.272
FOR TODAY FROM COMMITTEE MEMBERS
03:03:03.339 --> 03:03:06.842
ON TO TO LAYOFF TODAY.
03:03:06.909 --> 03:03:09.311
OR DON'T GIVE ME A MOTION.
03:03:09.378 --> 03:03:20.656
OR IT'S UP TO THE COMMITTEE
03:03:20.723 --> 03:03:20.956
[inaudible]
03:03:21.023 --> 03:03:23.225
OKAY.
03:03:23.292 --> 03:03:39.775
POINT OF CLARIFICATION HOLD ON
03:03:41.443 --> 03:03:42.711
PEOPLE WISER TO ME.
03:03:42.778 --> 03:03:44.613
MADE A RECOMMENDATION.
03:03:44.680 --> 03:03:46.648
COULDN'T SELECT WAS A BOW MOTION
03:03:46.715 --> 03:03:50.352
I COULD HOLD IT IN COMMITTEE
03:03:50.419 --> 03:03:50.652
[inaudible]
03:03:50.719 --> 03:03:56.425
AND THEN.
03:03:56.492 --> 03:03:59.428
WAIT TO TAKE A VOTE NEXT WEEK.
03:03:59.495 --> 03:04:00.229
AND GIVE PARTIES TO COME
03:04:00.295 --> 03:04:01.964
TOGETHER.
03:04:02.030 --> 03:04:03.565
THAT WAY YOU DON'T HAVE AN UPPER
03:04:03.632 --> 03:04:05.401
DOWN NOW ORDER WAITING FOR
03:04:05.467 --> 03:04:06.502
MOTION WHICH DIDN'T SEEM LIKE IT
03:04:06.568 --> 03:04:08.537
WAS.
03:04:08.604 --> 03:04:13.776
THE REAL QUICKLY.
03:04:13.842 --> 03:04:16.011
TESTIMONY IT AND WHEREAS WHEN IT
03:04:16.078 --> 03:04:16.645
WOULD BE WILL JUST TO TESTIMONY
03:04:16.712 --> 03:04:17.012
ONLY.
03:04:17.079 --> 03:04:19.882
IF NEXT WEEK.
03:04:19.948 --> 03:04:22.551
I WILL TAKE OF WHAT NEXT WEEK.
03:04:22.618 --> 03:04:22.885
I THINK OKAY.
03:04:22.951 --> 03:04:23.852
ALRIGHT [inaudible]
03:04:23.919 --> 03:04:24.787
THANK [inaudible]
03:04:24.853 --> 03:04:40.903
BUT
03:04:55.150 --> 03:05:11.133
BUT
03:05:13.802 --> 03:05:14.536
HELLO.
03:05:14.603 --> 03:05:16.872
HI SINNERS [inaudible]
03:05:16.939 --> 03:05:19.541
SKINNER.
03:05:19.608 --> 03:05:22.444
HELLO MY FELLOW PUBLIC SAFETY
03:05:22.511 --> 03:05:23.612
CHAIRED A VERY PLEASED TO BE
03:05:23.679 --> 03:05:25.280
BEFORE YOU OF PAULA AND THANK
03:05:25.347 --> 03:05:26.815
YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR KIND
03:05:26.882 --> 03:05:28.150
REMARKS EARLIER IN THAT.
03:05:28.217 --> 03:05:29.485
THAT BILL THAT YOU JUST HEARD
03:05:29.551 --> 03:05:31.487
WAS MENDED AFTER MY COMMITTEE SO
03:05:31.553 --> 03:05:32.888
THE OPPOSITION THAT WAS PRESENT
03:05:32.955 --> 03:05:34.223
TODAY WAS NOT IN MY COMMITTEE
03:05:34.289 --> 03:05:34.923
ANYWAY [inaudible]
03:05:34.990 --> 03:05:36.859
ENOUGH SAID [inaudible]
03:05:36.925 --> 03:05:41.029
BUT WHAT IF YOU MIND IF I START
03:05:41.096 --> 03:05:42.631
WITH S. B. [inaudible]
03:05:42.698 --> 03:05:44.333
TEN TWENTY FIVE WE PULL.
03:05:44.399 --> 03:05:45.200
YES AGAIN WHEN THE RIGHT
03:05:45.267 --> 03:05:46.635
EXCELLENT SO I'M GONNA DO IT
03:05:46.702 --> 03:05:48.237
FAST BECAUSE I HAVE TO GO BACK
03:05:48.303 --> 03:05:49.271
UP TO ENERGY COMMITTEE.
03:05:49.338 --> 03:05:50.572
GOT OF COURSE I WELCOME ANY
03:05:50.639 --> 03:05:52.107
DISCUSSION BY WOULD DO IT
03:05:52.174 --> 03:05:54.343
QUICKLY SP TEN TWENTY FIVE
03:05:54.409 --> 03:05:56.778
RESTORES JUDICIAL DISCRETION FOR
03:05:56.845 --> 03:05:59.181
CERTAIN NON VIOLENT DRUG CRIMES.
03:05:59.248 --> 03:06:00.682
IN RESEARCH BACKED BY THE
03:06:00.749 --> 03:06:02.684
NATIONAL ACADEMY OF SCIENCES THE
03:06:02.751 --> 03:06:04.853
HERITAGE FOUNDATION AND OTHERS
03:06:04.920 --> 03:06:06.388
HAVE FOUND THAT MANDATORY
03:06:06.455 --> 03:06:08.657
MINIMUMS [inaudible]
03:06:08.724 --> 03:06:10.726
SPECIFICALLY TOWARDS DRUG CRIMES
03:06:10.792 --> 03:06:12.995
DO NOT [inaudible]
03:06:13.061 --> 03:06:13.862
REDUCE EITHER [inaudible]
03:06:13.929 --> 03:06:14.796
YEAH [inaudible]
03:06:14.863 --> 03:06:16.298
WELL [inaudible]
03:06:16.365 --> 03:06:22.070
HOW?
03:06:22.137 --> 03:06:23.639
TREATING NEED DIRECTION DIRECTLY
03:06:23.705 --> 03:06:24.573
CAN SOMETIMES HAVE BETTER
03:06:24.640 --> 03:06:25.741
OUTCOMES SO THIS ALLOWS THE
03:06:25.807 --> 03:06:27.976
JUDGE TO FACTOR IN ALL
03:06:28.043 --> 03:06:29.545
CIRCUMSTANCES AND WITH THAT.
03:06:29.611 --> 03:06:31.513
I'M GOING TO ASK ME WITNESSES TO
03:06:31.580 --> 03:06:32.948
PRESENT BRIEFLY AND WE'LL SEE IF
03:06:33.015 --> 03:06:34.917
THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS.
03:06:34.983 --> 03:06:35.684
THE MORNING --
03:06:35.751 --> 03:06:37.619
HARLAN GROSSMAN I'M A RETIRED
03:06:37.686 --> 03:06:39.221
JUDGE FROM CONTRA COSTA COUNTY A
03:06:39.288 --> 03:06:41.356
RETIRED SIX YEARS AGO AFTER
03:06:41.423 --> 03:06:42.357
TWENTY ONE YEARS OF JUDICIAL
03:06:42.424 --> 03:06:44.860
SERVICE I WAS A PROSECUTOR FOR
03:06:44.927 --> 03:06:45.427
NINE YEARS BEFORE BECOMING A
03:06:45.494 --> 03:06:46.528
JUDGE.
03:06:46.595 --> 03:06:48.330
SINCE RETIRING I'VE BEEN ACTIVE
03:06:48.397 --> 03:06:49.898
REMAINED ACTIVE INCOME OF
03:06:49.965 --> 03:06:51.633
JUSTICE POLICY ADVOCACY.
03:06:51.700 --> 03:06:52.701
I'M PRESIDENT THIS MORNING TO
03:06:52.768 --> 03:06:55.571
ADVOCATE IN FAVOR OF SENATE BILL
03:06:55.637 --> 03:06:56.138
TEN TWENTY FIVE WHICH WOULD
03:06:56.204 --> 03:06:57.239
REPEAL THE PROBATION AND
03:06:57.306 --> 03:06:58.574
ELIGIBILITY AND BART A
03:06:58.640 --> 03:06:59.975
SUSPENSION OF SENTENCE
03:07:00.042 --> 03:07:01.877
PROVISIONS. FOR CERTAIN
03:07:01.944 --> 03:07:03.378
ENUMERATED NON VIOLENT DRUG
03:07:03.445 --> 03:07:05.247
OFFENSES THEREBY RESTORING
03:07:05.314 --> 03:07:07.282
JUDICIAL DISCRETION TO IMPOSE
03:07:07.349 --> 03:07:08.250
THE APPROPRIATE SIZE.
03:07:08.317 --> 03:07:09.351
TAILORED TO THE INDIVIDUAL
03:07:09.418 --> 03:07:11.320
CIRCUMSTANCES OF EACH DEFENDANT
03:07:11.386 --> 03:07:13.088
THAT COMES BEFORE THE COURT.
03:07:13.155 --> 03:07:14.456
RESTRICTIONS ON JUDICIAL
03:07:14.523 --> 03:07:16.258
DISCRETION IN SENTENCING DO NOT
03:07:16.325 --> 03:07:17.993
SERVE AS A DETERRENT TO CRIME
03:07:18.060 --> 03:07:20.362
RATHER THEY ONLY MOVED THE BILL.
03:07:20.429 --> 03:07:21.863
AND I WILL BE TAKING THE
03:07:21.930 --> 03:07:22.331
COMMITTEES RECOMMENDED
03:07:22.397 --> 03:07:23.165
AMENDMENTS [inaudible]
03:07:23.231 --> 03:07:26.134
THANK YOU.
03:07:26.201 --> 03:07:27.769
OF RESTRICTIONS ON JUDICIAL
03:07:27.836 --> 03:07:28.670
DISCRETION SOMETHING DO NOT
03:07:28.737 --> 03:07:30.005
SERVE AS A DETERRENT TO CRIME
03:07:30.072 --> 03:07:31.907
RATHER THEY ONLY SERVE TO LIMIT
03:07:31.974 --> 03:07:33.508
THE DISCRETION TO TIE THE HANDS
03:07:33.575 --> 03:07:34.977
OF JUDGES INVOLVED IN THE
03:07:35.043 --> 03:07:37.012
ADJUDICATION DISPOSITION.
03:07:37.079 --> 03:07:38.647
AND RESOLUTION OF THESE CASES IT
03:07:38.714 --> 03:07:40.282
MAKES LITTLE SENSE TO LIMIT
03:07:40.349 --> 03:07:41.617
JUDICIAL DISCRETION AND THE
03:07:41.683 --> 03:07:43.452
SENTENCING OF THESE MATTERS WHEN
03:07:43.518 --> 03:07:44.786
JUDGES RETAIN AN EXERCISE OF
03:07:44.853 --> 03:07:46.221
DISCRETION A MUCH WEIGHTIER
03:07:46.288 --> 03:07:48.156
ISSUES SUCH AS WHETHER TO IMPOSE
03:07:48.223 --> 03:07:49.524
THE DEATH PENALTY WHETHER TO
03:07:49.591 --> 03:07:51.159
STRIKE A STRIKE CONVICTION.
03:07:51.226 --> 03:07:52.327
WHETHER CASE SHOULD PROCEED IN
03:07:52.394 --> 03:07:54.229
JUVENILE COURT TO BE TRANSFERRED
03:07:54.296 --> 03:07:55.130
TO CRIMINAL COURT.
03:07:55.197 --> 03:07:56.865
WHEN IT COMES TO SENTENCING
03:07:56.932 --> 03:07:58.967
CALIFORNIA SHOULD NOT HAVE A ONE
03:07:59.034 --> 03:08:00.402
SIZE FITS ALL APPROACH?
03:08:00.469 --> 03:08:02.304
MANDATORY MINIMUM SENTENCES ARE
03:08:02.371 --> 03:08:03.639
NOT EFFECTIVE IN ANY WAY
03:08:03.705 --> 03:08:05.207
INCLUDING NOT BEING COST
03:08:05.273 --> 03:08:06.108
EFFECTIVE.
03:08:06.174 --> 03:08:08.243
AND ACTING SENATE BILL TEN
03:08:08.310 --> 03:08:09.344
TWENTY FIVE WILL PERMIT MORE IF
03:08:09.411 --> 03:08:11.546
FISH EFFECTIVE DEFENDANT BASED
03:08:11.613 --> 03:08:13.315
SENTENCING AND MORE EFFICIENT
03:08:13.382 --> 03:08:14.883
USE OF CALIFORNIA'S CRIMINAL
03:08:14.950 --> 03:08:16.318
JUSTICE RESOURCES.
03:08:16.385 --> 03:08:18.153
THANK YOU THANK YOU PERHAPS
03:08:18.220 --> 03:08:19.621
BEFORE THE NEXT WITNESS I'LL
03:08:19.688 --> 03:08:21.390
JUST QUICKLY SAY BE I'M
03:08:21.456 --> 03:08:22.624
COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS.
03:08:22.691 --> 03:08:25.427
CREATE CONSISTENCY IN PROBATION
03:08:25.494 --> 03:08:28.096
ELIGIBILITY AND SO I AM TAKING
03:08:28.163 --> 03:08:29.531
NICE THANK YOU THANK YOU.
03:08:29.598 --> 03:08:30.766
GOTTEN GOOD MORNING MY NAME IS
03:08:30.832 --> 03:08:32.934
VELASCO WIN AND I AM A SENIOR
03:08:33.001 --> 03:08:34.336
TRIAL ATTORNEY AT THE SAN
03:08:34.403 --> 03:08:35.137
FRANCISCO PUBLIC DEFENDER'S
03:08:35.203 --> 03:08:36.304
OFFICE. ONE OF THE MOST
03:08:36.371 --> 03:08:39.141
CHALLENGING ASPECTS OF IS
03:08:39.207 --> 03:08:40.108
WATCHING --
03:08:40.175 --> 03:08:42.044
INDIGENT.
03:08:42.110 --> 03:08:43.311
PEOPLE OF COLOR FOR MENTALLY ILL
03:08:43.378 --> 03:08:45.013
AND ADDICTED TO DRUGS BE SENT TO
03:08:45.080 --> 03:08:45.781
PRISON.
03:08:45.847 --> 03:08:47.182
BECAUSE THEY'RE DEEMED UNWORTHY
03:08:47.249 --> 03:08:49.117
OF HOPE AND TREATMENT.
03:08:49.184 --> 03:08:50.352
I THE CURRENT LAW PREVENTS ME
03:08:50.419 --> 03:08:51.953
FROM NEGOTIATING MEANINGFUL
03:08:52.020 --> 03:08:54.523
TREATMENT AND INSTEAD I M.
03:08:54.589 --> 03:08:57.926
LIMITED BY ASKING FOR AT THE
03:08:57.993 --> 03:08:59.461
MOST MITIGATED TERM.
03:08:59.528 --> 03:09:00.996
THE MOST COMMON DRUG OFFENSES
03:09:01.063 --> 03:09:02.264
THAT I SEE ON A DAILY BASIS
03:09:02.330 --> 03:09:04.666
HAPPEN EXPOSURE OF THREE FOUR OR
03:09:04.733 --> 03:09:05.934
FIVE YEARS IN STATE PRISON.
03:09:06.001 --> 03:09:08.136
SO WHEN I WALK OUT OF COURT WITH
03:09:08.203 --> 03:09:09.337
A THREE YEAR STATE PRISON THAT
03:09:09.404 --> 03:09:11.273
IS TEAM TO A VICTORY OUR
03:09:11.339 --> 03:09:13.241
JUDICIAL DISCRETION IS REQUIRED
03:09:13.308 --> 03:09:14.943
FOR JUSTICE THIS IS NOT A
03:09:15.010 --> 03:09:16.745
MANDATE IT'S ANOTHER OPTION.
03:09:16.812 --> 03:09:19.748
I AM REQUESTING YOUR IPHONE
03:09:19.815 --> 03:09:20.182
THANK YOU THANK YOU.
03:09:20.248 --> 03:09:21.249
ANY.
03:09:21.316 --> 03:09:22.751
GLENN BACK IS FOR DRUG POLICY
03:09:22.818 --> 03:09:24.419
ALLIANCE CO SPONSOR OF THE BILL.
03:09:24.486 --> 03:09:25.754
THANK YOU ANY OTHER WITNESSES
03:09:25.821 --> 03:09:27.222
SUPPORT NAME AND ORGANIZATION
03:09:27.289 --> 03:09:28.957
HOW TERESA CHO ACT BE ALAMEDA
03:09:29.024 --> 03:09:30.625
COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS
03:09:30.692 --> 03:09:34.262
TRANSPORT THANK YOU.
03:09:34.329 --> 03:09:35.797
GOOD MORNING MARCO GEORGE FROM
03:09:35.864 --> 03:09:37.666
THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC DEFENDERS
03:09:37.733 --> 03:09:39.935
ASSOCIATION PROUD CO SPONSOR IN
03:09:40.001 --> 03:09:40.235
IN SUPPORT.
03:09:40.302 --> 03:09:43.939
THANKS.
03:09:44.005 --> 03:09:44.940
EMILY CHILD --
03:09:45.006 --> 03:09:45.941
FOR THE ACLU OF CALIFORNIA IN
03:09:46.007 --> 03:09:48.977
SUPPORT.
03:09:49.044 --> 03:09:50.912
ERIC ANDERSON FOR THE ELEVATOR
03:09:50.979 --> 03:09:51.513
CENTER FOR HUMAN RIGHTS STRONG
03:09:51.580 --> 03:09:54.449
SUPPORT.
03:09:54.516 --> 03:09:56.318
HI I'M OCCUPIED LOGICALLY GOING
03:09:56.384 --> 03:09:57.185
VOTERS OF CALIFORNIA FULL
03:09:57.252 --> 03:10:01.289
SUPPORT THANK YOU.
03:10:01.356 --> 03:10:03.425
CITY WHERE HER HIGH CHAIR THE
03:10:03.492 --> 03:10:05.093
LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE PEACE AND
03:10:05.160 --> 03:10:09.397
FREEDOM PARTY CALIFORNIA SPORT.
03:10:09.464 --> 03:10:10.899
REBECCA GONZALEZ NATIONAL
03:10:10.966 --> 03:10:12.701
ASSOCIATION OF SOCIAL WORKERS
03:10:12.768 --> 03:10:14.903
CALIFORNIA CHAPTER IN SUPPORT.
03:10:14.970 --> 03:10:15.937
THANK YOU ANY WITNESSES IN
03:10:16.004 --> 03:10:19.374
OPPOSITION [inaudible]
03:10:19.441 --> 03:10:20.842
SEEN NONE.
03:10:20.909 --> 03:10:21.409
ANY QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE
03:10:21.476 --> 03:10:25.046
MEMBERS.
03:10:25.113 --> 03:10:28.917
ALRIGHTY YOU MAY CLOSE --
03:10:28.984 --> 03:10:30.819
WITHOUT QUESTIONS IN THE DICE
03:10:30.886 --> 03:10:34.055
ALL JUST ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT
03:10:34.122 --> 03:10:34.956
WITH THE AMENDED BILL.
03:10:35.023 --> 03:10:36.191
THANK YOU [inaudible]
03:10:36.258 --> 03:10:37.759
WHOEVER.
03:10:37.826 --> 03:10:40.228
LET'S CALL THE ROLL.
03:10:40.295 --> 03:10:41.730
S. B. TEN TWENTY FIVE THE MOTION
03:10:41.797 --> 03:10:43.131
IS TO PASS AS AMENDED TO THE
03:10:43.198 --> 03:10:44.566
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE JONES
03:10:44.633 --> 03:10:46.501
SAWYER AYE JONES SAWYER AYE
03:10:46.568 --> 03:10:47.636
LACKEY.
03:10:47.702 --> 03:10:49.938
LACKEY NO CARILLO CARILLO I
03:10:50.005 --> 03:10:51.439
KAMLAGER-DOVE.
03:10:51.506 --> 03:10:53.608
KAMLAGER-DOVE I KILEY.
03:10:53.675 --> 03:10:57.579
QUIRK AYE QUIRK AYE SANTIAGO.
03:10:57.646 --> 03:10:58.013
THAT MEASURE PASSES
03:10:58.079 --> 03:11:00.816
CONGRADULATIONS [inaudible]
03:11:00.882 --> 03:11:02.784
AND NOW.
03:11:02.851 --> 03:11:05.720
THE ONE SP.
03:11:05.787 --> 03:11:08.056
TWELVE HUNDRED THANK YOU MUCH.
03:11:08.123 --> 03:11:09.191
SHARON MEMBERS.
03:11:09.257 --> 03:11:10.759
SP TWELVE HUNDRED WHEN I WAS IN
03:11:10.826 --> 03:11:12.260
THE ASSEMBLY I CARRIED --
03:11:12.327 --> 03:11:14.095
AB TEN FOURTEEN WHICH WAS PASSED
03:11:14.162 --> 03:11:16.064
AND SIGNED INTO LAW AND THAT
03:11:16.131 --> 03:11:17.999
ESTABLISHED CALIFORNIA'S GUN
03:11:18.066 --> 03:11:19.601
VIOLENCE RESTRAINING ORDER WHICH
03:11:19.668 --> 03:11:21.570
IS ALSO KNOWN AS A VIOLENCE RISK
03:11:21.636 --> 03:11:23.805
PREVENTION ORDER --
03:11:23.872 --> 03:11:25.473
SO WE WERE THE FIRST STATE WHILE
03:11:25.540 --> 03:11:27.576
THERE ARE OTHER STATES THAT HAVE.
03:11:27.642 --> 03:11:30.111
SUBSEQUENTLY HAVE ENACTED YOU WE
03:11:30.178 --> 03:11:32.747
WERE THE FIRST TO CREATE A TOOL
03:11:32.814 --> 03:11:35.684
THAT FAMILY MEMBERS COULD USE
03:11:35.750 --> 03:11:37.385
WHEN THEY NEW.
03:11:37.452 --> 03:11:39.888
THAT SOMEONE I LOVED ONE WAS
03:11:39.955 --> 03:11:41.990
THREATENING SELF HARM. TO
03:11:42.057 --> 03:11:43.191
THEMSELVES IN OTHER WORDS SELF
03:11:43.258 --> 03:11:45.861
HARM OR VIOLENCE AGAINST OTHERS.
03:11:45.927 --> 03:11:47.996
THE MARCH TWENTY EIGHTEEN ISSUE
03:11:48.063 --> 03:11:50.599
OF THE ECONOMIST LISTED GUN
03:11:50.665 --> 03:11:52.267
VIOLENCE RESTRAINING ORDERS OR
03:11:52.334 --> 03:11:53.869
VIOLENCE RISK PREVENTION ORDERS
03:11:53.935 --> 03:11:55.003
AS THEY TURN THEM.
03:11:55.070 --> 03:11:56.538
AS ONE OF THE MOST EFFECTIVE
03:11:56.605 --> 03:11:58.573
TOOLS IN SAVING LIVES FROM GUN
03:11:58.640 --> 03:12:00.775
VIOLENCE NOW WHAT THIS BILL DOES
03:12:00.842 --> 03:12:02.777
YOU MIGHT ASK WHERE WE HAVE ONE
03:12:02.844 --> 03:12:04.746
WHAT IT WHAT IS THIS BILL DO.
03:12:04.813 --> 03:12:07.082
IT IMPROVES THERE ARE EXISTING
03:12:07.148 --> 03:12:09.718
STATUTE BY ELIMINATING THE FEES
03:12:09.784 --> 03:12:10.886
FOR ISSUING.
03:12:10.952 --> 03:12:15.323
A ORDER WE DO NOT WANT THE COST
03:12:15.390 --> 03:12:16.758
TO BE AN OBSTACLE TO SOMEONE
03:12:16.825 --> 03:12:18.793
SEEKING A PETITION.
03:12:18.860 --> 03:12:21.196
IT ALSO EXPANDS THE G. BUREAU TO
03:12:21.263 --> 03:12:24.232
COVER FIRE ARM COMPONENTS NOW I
03:12:24.299 --> 03:12:25.834
HAD A LEGITIMATE QUESTION ABOUT
03:12:25.901 --> 03:12:26.735
WHY.
03:12:26.801 --> 03:12:28.536
BECAUSE IN INDIVIDUAL FIREARM
03:12:28.603 --> 03:12:30.372
COMPONENT OBVIOUSLY IT CAN'T
03:12:30.438 --> 03:12:32.574
JUST BE AS DEADLY AS A FIREARM
03:12:32.641 --> 03:12:34.209
BUT AS WE KNOW FIRE ARMS CAN BE
03:12:34.276 --> 03:12:35.610
DISASSEMBLED.
03:12:35.677 --> 03:12:38.380
AND UNLESS BE A PERSON --
03:12:38.446 --> 03:12:41.149
ARRIVING TO ISSUE THE AND WHAT
03:12:41.216 --> 03:12:43.218
IF THEY DO NOT ASK FOR ALL FIRE
03:12:43.285 --> 03:12:44.586
EARN COMPONENTS YOU COULD HAVE A
03:12:44.653 --> 03:12:46.588
SITUATION WHERE THE PERSON HAS
03:12:46.655 --> 03:12:48.623
DISASSEMBLED A FIRE ARM.
03:12:48.690 --> 03:12:50.258
AND THAT'S THEY'VE NOT RECOVERED
03:12:50.325 --> 03:12:51.426
THE FIRE ARMS IN THE PERSON'S
03:12:51.493 --> 03:12:52.994
POSSESSION.
03:12:53.061 --> 03:12:55.363
SO THAT IS PART OF THE REASON
03:12:55.430 --> 03:12:57.132
FOR THAT AMENDMENT.
03:12:57.198 --> 03:12:59.334
ADDITIONALLY IT IMPROVES DUE
03:12:59.401 --> 03:13:02.537
PROCESS BY REQUIRING A HEARING
03:13:02.604 --> 03:13:04.639
FOR THE EMERGENCY GBR ROSE
03:13:04.706 --> 03:13:06.441
WITHIN TWENTY ONE DAYS.
03:13:06.508 --> 03:13:08.209
SO WE'VE AND RITUALLY DESIGNED
03:13:08.276 --> 03:13:09.878
THE STATUE TO RESPECT DUE
03:13:09.945 --> 03:13:11.880
PROCESS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE BUT
03:13:11.947 --> 03:13:12.747
SAW.
03:13:12.814 --> 03:13:14.316
OVER TIME THAT WE HAD FAILED TO
03:13:14.382 --> 03:13:17.018
REQUIRE THAT HEARING IN THE US
03:13:17.085 --> 03:13:18.920
HEARINGS WERE NOT OCCURRING SO
03:13:18.987 --> 03:13:21.957
THAT'S THE BILL IN ITS FORM.
03:13:22.023 --> 03:13:24.192
ANDA I WOULD LIKE ME WITNESSES
03:13:24.259 --> 03:13:26.161
TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT.
03:13:26.227 --> 03:13:27.662
GOOD MORNING THANK YOU SENATOR
03:13:27.729 --> 03:13:29.264
SKINNER MISTER CHAIRMAN AND
03:13:29.331 --> 03:13:30.699
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE I AM
03:13:30.765 --> 03:13:32.267
ALISON AND HER MAN AND ATTORNEY
03:13:32.334 --> 03:13:33.702
AT GIFFORD'S LAW CENTER TO
03:13:33.768 --> 03:13:35.704
PREVENT GUN VIOLENCE AND ON
03:13:35.770 --> 03:13:37.205
BEHALF OF OUR ORGANIZATION I
03:13:37.272 --> 03:13:40.408
URGE YOU TO SUPPORT SP TWELVE
03:13:40.475 --> 03:13:40.942
HUNDRED A BILL WE HAVE CO
03:13:41.009 --> 03:13:42.010
SPONSORED.
03:13:42.077 --> 03:13:43.578
THIS BILL MAKES IMPORTANT AND
03:13:43.645 --> 03:13:45.780
RELATIVELY MINOR CHANGES TO THE
03:13:45.847 --> 03:13:47.115
EXISTING GUN VIOLENCE
03:13:47.182 --> 03:13:49.017
RESTRAINING ORDER LAW AND AS THE
03:13:49.084 --> 03:13:50.685
SENATOR MENTIONED IT WOULD
03:13:50.752 --> 03:13:52.954
INSURE THAT INABILITY TO PAY IS
03:13:53.021 --> 03:13:54.155
NEVER A BARRIER TO PREVENTING
03:13:54.222 --> 03:13:55.890
VIOLENCE.
03:13:55.957 --> 03:13:57.625
IT WOULD ALSO MAKE IT HARDER FOR
03:13:57.692 --> 03:13:58.960
RESPONDENTS TO ASSEMBLE
03:13:59.027 --> 03:14:01.496
FUNCTIONAL FIREARMS BY REQUIRING
03:14:01.563 --> 03:14:02.764
THEM TO RELINQUISH PARTS AND
03:14:02.831 --> 03:14:04.799
COMPONENTS THAT ARE CLEARLY
03:14:04.866 --> 03:14:08.770
DESIGNED AND INTENDED TO BE USED
03:14:08.837 --> 03:14:09.270
TO ASSEMBLE.
03:14:09.337 --> 03:14:11.673
A FULLY FUNCTIONAL FIREARM THIS
03:14:11.740 --> 03:14:13.108
IS NOT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT
03:14:13.174 --> 03:14:14.309
SPRINGS HERE WE ARE TALKING
03:14:14.376 --> 03:14:15.710
ABOUT UNFINISHED FRAMES AND
03:14:15.777 --> 03:14:17.612
RECEIVERS.
03:14:17.679 --> 03:14:19.381
THIRD IT WOULD MAKE IT HARDER
03:14:19.447 --> 03:14:21.182
FOR PERSON TO USE A FIRE ARM
03:14:21.249 --> 03:14:22.617
ILLEGALLY BY REQUIRING
03:14:22.684 --> 03:14:23.785
RESPONDENTS TO RELINQUISH
03:14:23.852 --> 03:14:25.520
MAGAZINES.
03:14:25.587 --> 03:14:27.055
AND IT WOULD ALSO IN SHORT THAT
03:14:27.122 --> 03:14:28.456
A ONE YEAR HEARING IT'S SAD
03:14:28.523 --> 03:14:29.824
WITHIN TWENTY ONE DAYS OF A
03:14:29.891 --> 03:14:31.526
COURT ISSUING A TEMPORARY
03:14:31.593 --> 03:14:33.695
EMERGENCY G. VERO OBTAINED BY
03:14:33.762 --> 03:14:35.063
LAW ENFORCEMENT.
03:14:35.130 --> 03:14:36.898
AS IS ALREADY THE PROCESS FOR EX
03:14:36.965 --> 03:14:38.533
PARTE ORDERS.
03:14:38.600 --> 03:14:39.667
THE BILL WOULD ALSO MAKE IT
03:14:39.734 --> 03:14:41.036
EASIER FOR THE CALIFORNIA
03:14:41.102 --> 03:14:42.404
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE TO KNOW
03:14:42.470 --> 03:14:45.407
THAT RESPONDED HAS OR HAS NOT
03:14:45.473 --> 03:14:47.409
RELINQUISHED FIREARMS.
03:14:47.475 --> 03:14:49.010
BECAUSE THESE FIXES TO THE G.
03:14:49.077 --> 03:14:50.612
VERO STATUTE ARE MODEST
03:14:50.678 --> 03:14:52.747
REASONABLE AND INTENDED TO MAKE
03:14:52.814 --> 03:14:54.616
THE ORDERS MORE EFFECTIVE I URGE
03:14:54.682 --> 03:15:00.355
YOU TO VOTE I GOOD MORNING MY
03:15:00.422 --> 03:15:01.623
NAME IS MARISSA MAKE SHOWN AND I
03:15:01.689 --> 03:15:03.091
WORK AT THE SANTA CLARA COUNTY
03:15:03.158 --> 03:15:04.492
DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
03:15:04.559 --> 03:15:06.061
AND I'M GRATEFUL TO SENATOR
03:15:06.127 --> 03:15:06.928
SKINNER --
03:15:06.995 --> 03:15:08.196
FOR INVITING ME TO SPEAK WE
03:15:08.263 --> 03:15:09.631
PROBABLY SUPPORT --
03:15:09.697 --> 03:15:11.399
AND AGREE WITH THE
03:15:11.466 --> 03:15:13.068
RECOMMENDATIONS --
03:15:13.134 --> 03:15:15.737
THAT ARE IN AS SPEECH I MERELY
03:15:15.804 --> 03:15:18.306
BECAUSE LARGE PART OF MY WORK
03:15:18.373 --> 03:15:19.574
NOW IS --
03:15:19.641 --> 03:15:21.242
HELPING OBTAIN THESE G. BARROWS
03:15:21.309 --> 03:15:22.811
FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT AND IN THE
03:15:22.877 --> 03:15:24.746
LAST SEVERAL WEEKS THERE'VE BEEN
03:15:24.813 --> 03:15:27.148
INCREDIBLY POWERFUL EXAMPLES OF
03:15:27.215 --> 03:15:28.950
THE UTILITY OF THIS TOOL --
03:15:29.017 --> 03:15:30.351
THE EXAMPLES THAT WE'VE SEEN
03:15:30.418 --> 03:15:32.487
HAVE BEEN A MENTALLY ILL SON
03:15:32.554 --> 03:15:33.922
WHO'S PROLIFERATING WEAPONS
03:15:33.988 --> 03:15:35.490
WHOSE PROACTIVE PARENTS WERE
03:15:35.557 --> 03:15:37.025
ABLE -- TO
03:15:37.092 --> 03:15:38.426
GET LAW ENFORCEMENT TO HELP STEP
03:15:38.493 --> 03:15:40.128
IN AND WERE IT NOT FOR THESE
03:15:40.195 --> 03:15:41.162
AMENDMENTS THERE ARE SOME MAJOR
03:15:41.229 --> 03:15:43.498
OBSTACLES FOR US THAT'S HAD.
03:15:43.565 --> 03:15:44.566
TO FIX THAT'S IN HERE THAT WERE
03:15:44.632 --> 03:15:46.534
SO THRILLED ABOUT IS REQUIRING
03:15:46.601 --> 03:15:48.403
AND ACTUALLY TRIGGERING A ONE
03:15:48.470 --> 03:15:49.904
YEAR HEARING WHEN YOU APPLY FOR
03:15:49.971 --> 03:15:51.406
A TEMPORARY ORDER.
03:15:51.473 --> 03:15:52.507
BECAUSE THIS IS BEEN A MAJOR
03:15:52.574 --> 03:15:54.309
OBSTACLE FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT WHO
03:15:54.375 --> 03:15:56.211
HAVE IT TNCS TEMPORARY EMERGENCY
03:15:56.277 --> 03:15:57.779
ORDERS AND THEN DIDN'T GET AN
03:15:57.846 --> 03:15:59.180
AUTOMATIC HEARING AND THAT'S
03:15:59.247 --> 03:16:00.448
BEEN A PROBLEM FOR US IN OUR
03:16:00.515 --> 03:16:01.816
JURISDICTION IN SEVERAL.
03:16:01.883 --> 03:16:03.518
OF FAIRLY HIGH PROFILE CASES
03:16:03.585 --> 03:16:05.587
THAT I'VE EXPERIENCED --
03:16:05.653 --> 03:16:07.655
AND THEN WE ARE ALSO VERY
03:16:07.722 --> 03:16:09.657
THRILLED TO SEE THE COMPONENT
03:16:09.724 --> 03:16:10.725
PARTS AMENDMENT --
03:16:10.792 --> 03:16:12.527
MORE FIX TO THIS LAW BECAUSE
03:16:12.594 --> 03:16:13.761
THAT AND IN --
03:16:13.828 --> 03:16:15.463
SEVERAL OF THE GDR OWES THAT
03:16:15.530 --> 03:16:16.931
WE'VE DONE IN OUR JURISDICTION
03:16:16.998 --> 03:16:18.533
IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS THERE
03:16:18.600 --> 03:16:20.368
HAVE BEEN ABSOLUTELY TONS OF
03:16:20.435 --> 03:16:22.003
THESE COMPONENT PARTS LOWERS
03:16:22.070 --> 03:16:24.372
UPPERS UNASSEMBLED FIREARMS THAT
03:16:24.439 --> 03:16:25.773
WHEN WE'VE GONE AND CITIES ON
03:16:25.840 --> 03:16:27.575
HIGH RISK SITUATIONS.
03:16:27.642 --> 03:16:29.010
HAD WE NOT HAD THIS FIX IN THE
03:16:29.077 --> 03:16:30.612
LAW THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION BY
03:16:30.678 --> 03:16:31.880
LAW ENFORCEMENT AND IT WOULD
03:16:31.946 --> 03:16:35.416
HAVE LEFT BEHIND --
03:16:35.483 --> 03:16:38.186
FIRE ARM THAT --
03:16:38.253 --> 03:16:40.788
THIS IS A VERY COMMON THERE ARE
03:16:40.855 --> 03:16:42.056
THAT WILL HELP US ON ENSURE
03:16:42.123 --> 03:16:44.225
PUBLIC SAFETY SO I WE AGREE WITH
03:16:44.292 --> 03:16:45.693
ALL OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS AND
03:16:45.760 --> 03:16:47.228
IN IN PRACTICAL.
03:16:47.295 --> 03:16:48.630
USE THINK THAT THEY WILL HELP
03:16:48.696 --> 03:16:52.800
PREVENT FUTURE VIOLENCE.
03:16:52.867 --> 03:16:56.137
ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
03:16:56.204 --> 03:16:57.372
AMANDA WILCOXSON BEHALF THE
03:16:57.438 --> 03:16:58.706
CALIFORNIA CHAPTERS OF THE BRADY
03:16:58.773 --> 03:17:00.408
CAMPAIGN TO PREVENT GUN VIOLENCE
03:17:00.475 --> 03:17:03.244
WE ARE ALSO CO SPONSORS OF THE
03:17:03.311 --> 03:17:05.813
BILL AND URGE DRIVE VOTE.
03:17:05.880 --> 03:17:07.248
CALVIN QUICK ON BEHALF OF BAY
03:17:07.315 --> 03:17:07.782
AREA STUDENT ACTIVISTS IN
03:17:07.849 --> 03:17:09.584
SUPPORT.
03:17:09.651 --> 03:17:15.723
EDU ME WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION.
03:17:15.790 --> 03:17:32.006
I NEED TO SEE
03:17:36.711 --> 03:17:36.778
.
03:17:36.778 --> 03:17:37.912
MISTER CHAIRMAN A MEMBERS AND
03:17:37.979 --> 03:17:39.480
MADAM CHAIR --
03:17:39.547 --> 03:17:41.382
FIRST OF ALL WITH THEM.
03:17:41.449 --> 03:17:43.151
WE THINK IT'S A VERY POSITIVE
03:17:43.218 --> 03:17:44.485
THING THAT THAT YOU'VE DONE IN
03:17:44.552 --> 03:17:45.987
IN THIS BILL.
03:17:46.054 --> 03:17:47.589
TO TIM MAKE SURE THAT DUE
03:17:47.655 --> 03:17:49.357
PROCESS IS AT THE FRONT END.
03:17:49.424 --> 03:17:50.758
WE THANK YOU FOR THAT BECAUSE WE
03:17:50.825 --> 03:17:52.694
THINK THAT IS A TENANT OF OUR
03:17:52.760 --> 03:17:53.661
DEMOCRACY --
03:17:53.728 --> 03:17:55.997
OF OF OF REALLY TRUE GOOD
03:17:56.064 --> 03:17:57.799
JUSTICE IN AMERICA AND HERE IN
03:17:57.865 --> 03:17:59.234
CALIFORNIA SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.
03:17:59.300 --> 03:18:00.602
WE DO WANT TO POINT OUT A COUPLE
03:18:00.668 --> 03:18:01.836
OF CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE WITH
03:18:01.903 --> 03:18:03.504
WITH WITH THE THE PROVISIONS OF
03:18:03.571 --> 03:18:04.272
THIS BILL.
03:18:04.339 --> 03:18:05.073
THE THE FIRST OF ALL IT DOESN'T
03:18:05.139 --> 03:18:08.176
SAY THE DEFINITIONS THAT ARE
03:18:08.243 --> 03:18:10.445
USED LEGISLATIVELY WITH REGARD
03:18:10.511 --> 03:18:14.449
TO WHAT CONSTITUTES A GUN PART --
03:18:14.515 --> 03:18:17.518
IS OPEN TO MASSIVE --
03:18:17.585 --> 03:18:19.587
INTERPRETATION AND IT IN REALITY
03:18:19.654 --> 03:18:21.289
IF THEY HAD TRIGGERS BARRELS
03:18:21.356 --> 03:18:21.589
[inaudible]
03:18:21.656 --> 03:18:23.324
STOCKS.
03:18:23.391 --> 03:18:26.194
GRIPS ALL OF THOSE THINGS THERE.
03:18:26.261 --> 03:18:28.263
UNLESS THEY HAD THAT PORTION
03:18:28.329 --> 03:18:31.866
THAT IS THE FIRE ARM ITSELF --
03:18:31.933 --> 03:18:33.601
IT IS ALL OF THOSE THINGS COULD
03:18:33.668 --> 03:18:34.202
NEVER BECOME A GUN [inaudible]
03:18:34.269 --> 03:18:36.738
NOW.
03:18:36.804 --> 03:18:39.040
SO EVERY LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER
03:18:39.107 --> 03:18:40.541
KNOWS THAT A RECEIVER WEATHER
03:18:40.608 --> 03:18:41.976
STRIP OR FULLY ASSEMBLED INTO
03:18:42.043 --> 03:18:44.445
THE GUN IS IS THE GUN AND IS THE
03:18:44.512 --> 03:18:47.915
CRITICAL PART. TO MAKE A GUN SO --
03:18:47.982 --> 03:18:49.250
HE IS.
03:18:49.317 --> 03:18:50.451
THE DEFINITION YOU KNOW IF
03:18:50.518 --> 03:18:51.953
SOMEBODY SEES A TRIGGER GROUP
03:18:52.020 --> 03:18:53.021
THAT LOOKS LIKE IT COULD GO INTO
03:18:53.087 --> 03:18:54.222
NAY ARE FIFTEEN OR SOMETHING
03:18:54.289 --> 03:18:56.724
LIKE THAT OR A BOLT ACTION RIFLE.
03:18:56.791 --> 03:18:58.192
CLEARLY IT'S A TRICKLE GROUP
03:18:58.259 --> 03:18:59.193
CRADLED CLEARLY IT'S A PART OF A
03:18:59.260 --> 03:19:01.129
GUN BUT I COULD NEVER BECOME A
03:19:01.195 --> 03:19:02.263
GUN OR BE USED.
03:19:02.330 --> 03:19:04.532
AS SUCH THE OTHER CONCERN THAT
03:19:04.599 --> 03:19:06.200
WE HAVE IS WITH THE THAT THE GBR
03:19:06.267 --> 03:19:07.335
ROSE AND WE'VE DONE A LITTLE BIT
03:19:07.402 --> 03:19:08.536
OF RESEARCH TO FIND THAT.
03:19:08.603 --> 03:19:09.971
THERE BEEN UP APPROXIMATELY TWO
03:19:10.038 --> 03:19:11.139
HUNDRED EUROS THAT HAVE BEEN
03:19:11.205 --> 03:19:11.973
ISSUED THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO
03:19:12.040 --> 03:19:13.041
IDENTIFY.
03:19:13.107 --> 03:19:15.176
AND SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE
03:19:15.243 --> 03:19:17.578
HAVE AS FAR AS THE THE ABUSE OF
03:19:17.645 --> 03:19:21.215
PEOPLE FILING THEM ALICIA SALI.
03:19:21.282 --> 03:19:22.083
ARE HAVE NOT OCCURRED.
03:19:22.150 --> 03:19:23.818
BUT THE CONCERN THAT WE HAVE IS
03:19:23.885 --> 03:19:24.519
THAT.
03:19:24.585 --> 03:19:26.454
PUTTING OUR ATTENTION AND AND
03:19:26.521 --> 03:19:28.923
FOCUS ON THE GB RO IT'S IT YOU
03:19:28.990 --> 03:19:30.491
GO ON YOU SAY OKAY.
03:19:30.558 --> 03:19:32.226
YOU WERE A DANGER TO YOURSELF OR
03:19:32.293 --> 03:19:34.395
OTHERS AND A FAMILY MEMBER OR A
03:19:34.462 --> 03:19:35.763
LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER AND IN
03:19:35.830 --> 03:19:36.531
REALITY.
03:19:36.597 --> 03:19:37.632
ANYBODY CAN ASK A LAW
03:19:37.699 --> 03:19:39.634
ENFORCEMENT OFFICER TO REQUESTED
03:19:39.701 --> 03:19:41.102
UV RO.
03:19:41.169 --> 03:19:43.705
IT'S GRANTED AND THEY THEY GET
03:19:43.771 --> 03:19:44.972
THEY LOSE THEIR GUNS THAT YEAH
03:19:45.039 --> 03:19:46.641
WITHIN TWENTY FOUR HOURS ARE
03:19:46.708 --> 03:19:47.241
GONNA THEY'RE GONNA LOSE THEIR
03:19:47.308 --> 03:19:47.608
GUNS [inaudible]
03:19:47.675 --> 03:19:48.910
BUT THEN.
03:19:48.976 --> 03:19:51.546
NOTHING ELSE HAPPENS.
03:19:51.612 --> 03:19:53.214
IF YOU'RE DANGER TO YOURSELF FOR
03:19:53.281 --> 03:19:55.249
OTHERS YOU JUST GO OUT THERE AND
03:19:55.316 --> 03:19:56.150
NOTHING IN THE LAW PREVENTS YOU
03:19:56.217 --> 03:19:57.785
FROM.
03:19:57.852 --> 03:20:00.154
BORROWING A GUN OR YOU CAN BREAK
03:20:00.221 --> 03:20:00.855
THE LAW AND STEAL A GUN OR
03:20:00.922 --> 03:20:02.090
SOMETHING LIKE THAT WHERE IS WE
03:20:02.156 --> 03:20:03.191
BELIEVE THAT THEIR EXISTING
03:20:03.257 --> 03:20:04.726
PROCEDURES AND IN STATE LAW
03:20:04.792 --> 03:20:06.961
ALREADY IN PLACE --
03:20:07.028 --> 03:20:09.831
IN IN PLACE THAT WILL --
03:20:09.897 --> 03:20:11.833
ACTUALLY HAVE PROVISIONS.
03:20:11.899 --> 03:20:13.835
THAT CHECK TO SEE IF THESE
03:20:13.901 --> 03:20:15.937
PEOPLE REALLY DO NEED EMOTIONAL
03:20:16.003 --> 03:20:18.239
HELP AND THEM HAVE THEM.
03:20:18.306 --> 03:20:20.608
RECEIVE THAT HELP THAT TO US%
03:20:20.675 --> 03:20:22.610
MAKE SENSE BUT JUST SAYING NO
03:20:22.677 --> 03:20:23.544
YOU'RE GONNA LOSE YOUR GUN
03:20:23.611 --> 03:20:24.545
RIGHTS BECAUSE WE THINK YOU'RE
03:20:24.612 --> 03:20:26.314
DANGER TO YOURSELF OR OTHERS GO
03:20:26.381 --> 03:20:26.914
OFTEN.
03:20:26.981 --> 03:20:29.250
MAKE PEACE OR DO YOU CHANGE YOUR
03:20:29.317 --> 03:20:30.651
MIND SOMEONE WE DON'T THINK IS A
03:20:30.718 --> 03:20:32.754
IS IS IS A GOOD WAY OF OF
03:20:32.820 --> 03:20:34.255
STOPPING.
03:20:34.322 --> 03:20:35.123
PEOPLE FROM COMMITTING NON
03:20:35.189 --> 03:20:37.892
VIOLENT ACTS FOR THOSE REASONS
03:20:37.959 --> 03:20:39.060
DOES CALIFORNIA.
03:20:39.127 --> 03:20:41.229
WITH APPRECIATION FOR THE THE
03:20:41.295 --> 03:20:42.630
THE ISSUES THAT ARE DISCUSSED
03:20:42.697 --> 03:20:44.098
WERE POSTED THANK YOU MISTER MR
03:20:44.165 --> 03:20:44.665
DELUDE.
03:20:44.732 --> 03:20:46.033
IS A MIXTURE MEMBERS OF THE
03:20:46.100 --> 03:20:47.034
COMMITTEE CRADLE IS ABOUT THE
03:20:47.101 --> 03:20:48.936
FIRES POLICY COALITION --
03:20:49.003 --> 03:20:50.071
JUST TO START OFF WE HAVE A
03:20:50.138 --> 03:20:51.572
FUNDAMENTAL DISAGREEMENT WITH
03:20:51.639 --> 03:20:54.342
THE WAY IN WHICH GOODBYES
03:20:54.409 --> 03:20:54.909
RESTRAINING ORDERS HAVE BEEN
03:20:54.976 --> 03:20:58.312
IMPLEMENTED IN THE PROCESS IN
03:20:58.379 --> 03:20:59.814
THIS BILL ONCE AGAIN WE BELIEVE
03:20:59.881 --> 03:21:01.482
DOES NOT INCLUDE DUE PROCESS.
03:21:01.549 --> 03:21:03.351
DUE PROCESS AFTER YOU'VE LOST
03:21:03.418 --> 03:21:05.553
YOUR RIGHTS IS NOT DUE PROCESS
03:21:05.620 --> 03:21:07.655
TIMING IS A KEY COMPONENT TO DUE
03:21:07.722 --> 03:21:09.957
PROCESS AYE AND WE BELIEVE THAT --
03:21:10.024 --> 03:21:11.659
SO SO THE CONCEPT IN GENERAL WE
03:21:11.726 --> 03:21:13.694
HAVE AN ISSUE WITH WE NOW IN
03:21:13.761 --> 03:21:14.962
THIS PARTICULAR CASE WHERE WE'RE
03:21:15.029 --> 03:21:17.865
TALKING ABOUT FIREARM PARTS --
03:21:17.932 --> 03:21:19.000
ONCE AGAIN HE BILL THAT WAS
03:21:19.066 --> 03:21:20.501
MENTIONED BY BY ONE OF THE FOLKS
03:21:20.568 --> 03:21:22.103
TEST VOTING TESTIFYING IN FAVOR
03:21:22.170 --> 03:21:23.905
THAT THERE CLEARLY SPEAKING TO
03:21:23.971 --> 03:21:25.139
UNFINISHED RECEIVERS.
03:21:25.206 --> 03:21:26.541
I DON'T SEE THAT LANGUAGE IN THE
03:21:26.607 --> 03:21:27.975
BILL I JUST SEE CLEARLY
03:21:28.042 --> 03:21:30.111
IDENTIFIABLE AND THE QUESTION IS
03:21:30.178 --> 03:21:32.413
CLEARLY IDENTIFIABLE TO WHO.
03:21:32.480 --> 03:21:33.748
YOU SOMEONE WHO KNOWS AND
03:21:33.815 --> 03:21:34.982
UNDERSTANDS WHAT A FIRE ARM
03:21:35.049 --> 03:21:36.350
LOOKS LIKE WHAT FIRE ON PARTS
03:21:36.417 --> 03:21:38.586
ARE OR TO SOMEONE WHO MAYBE
03:21:38.653 --> 03:21:39.921
THINKS THEY DO.
03:21:39.987 --> 03:21:41.088
I'VE I'VE COME IN HERE AND
03:21:41.155 --> 03:21:42.590
TESTIFIED BEFORE THIS COMMITTEE
03:21:42.657 --> 03:21:44.091
BRINGING VARIOUS FIREARM PARTS
03:21:44.158 --> 03:21:45.626
WALKING THROUGH --
03:21:45.693 --> 03:21:46.928
WALKING THROUGH THE THE
03:21:46.994 --> 03:21:48.463
SERGEANTS WITH THINGS ARE
03:21:48.529 --> 03:21:50.731
CLEARLY FIREARM PARTS JIMMY BUT
03:21:50.798 --> 03:21:52.033
CLEARLY THEY WEREN'T FIREARM
03:21:52.099 --> 03:21:53.801
PARTS TO THEM BECAUSE GUESS WHAT
03:21:53.868 --> 03:21:54.368
I WAS HERE IN THE COMMITTEE
03:21:54.435 --> 03:21:55.403
TESTIFYING.
03:21:55.470 --> 03:21:57.338
SHARING THESE WITH YOU OF THERE
03:21:57.405 --> 03:21:58.272
ARE SOME THINGS THAT ARE NOT
03:21:58.339 --> 03:22:00.541
CLEARLY IDENTIFIABLE AS FIREARM
03:22:00.608 --> 03:22:03.311
PARTS SUCH AS THE 0% LOWER THAN
03:22:03.377 --> 03:22:05.446
I PRESENTED A TWO YEARS AGO IN
03:22:05.513 --> 03:22:06.981
THIS PARTICULAR COMMITTEE.
03:22:07.048 --> 03:22:09.250
ONCE AGAIN. TO KNOW WHAT OUT TO
03:22:09.317 --> 03:22:10.218
OTHER PEOPLE TO PEOPLE WHO DON'T
03:22:10.284 --> 03:22:11.586
HAVE EXPERIENCE KNOWING ABOUT
03:22:11.652 --> 03:22:13.087
FIREARMS THAT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE
03:22:13.154 --> 03:22:15.089
A FIRE ON PART BUT I RECOGNIZE
03:22:15.156 --> 03:22:16.657
IT IS HAVING A CNC MACHINE.
03:22:16.724 --> 03:22:17.825
THAT CAN BE TURNED INTO A
03:22:17.892 --> 03:22:19.060
FIREARM.
03:22:19.126 --> 03:22:20.127
THE OTHER ISSUE THAT I THAT WE
03:22:20.194 --> 03:22:21.796
HAVE QUITE FRANKLY HAS TO DO
03:22:21.863 --> 03:22:23.064
WITH -- YOU
03:22:23.130 --> 03:22:24.432
KNOW DE DE ONCE AGAIN THE
03:22:24.499 --> 03:22:25.733
RANDOMNESS OF OKAY SO HOW WE
03:22:25.800 --> 03:22:27.201
GONNA DECIDE WHICH PARTS ARE
03:22:27.268 --> 03:22:29.370
LEGITIMATELY GOING TO BE GOING
03:22:29.437 --> 03:22:31.506
TO TRIGGER --
03:22:31.572 --> 03:22:34.108
THAT THE A VIOLATION OF THE G.
03:22:34.175 --> 03:22:35.142
V. RO.
03:22:35.209 --> 03:22:36.010
A OFTENTIMES PEOPLE WHO WON'T
03:22:36.077 --> 03:22:38.412
FIRE.
03:22:38.479 --> 03:22:40.648
MAYBE I DO WANT TO CHANGE OUT.
03:22:40.715 --> 03:22:42.216
TRIGGER ON MY ON MY FIREARM
03:22:42.283 --> 03:22:43.551
BECAUSE I WANT SOMETHING THAT'S
03:22:43.618 --> 03:22:45.419
EITHER SAFER OR BETTER A THAT
03:22:45.486 --> 03:22:47.788
WOULD THAT WORKS BETTER SO NOW I
03:22:47.855 --> 03:22:49.357
GET RID AYE AYE AYE AYE SWITCH
03:22:49.423 --> 03:22:50.091
OUT THE TRIGGER.
03:22:50.157 --> 03:22:51.492
AYE MAYBE LEAVE IT SITTING ON MY
03:22:51.559 --> 03:22:54.128
WORK BENCH THOSE GEV RO SOMEONE
03:22:54.195 --> 03:22:54.662
COMES IN THEY TAKE ALL MY
03:22:54.729 --> 03:22:56.030
FIREARMS.
03:22:56.097 --> 03:22:57.331
BUT I STILL HAVE THE TRIGGER IN
03:22:57.398 --> 03:23:00.001
A DRAWER IN MY IN MY AREA IN MY
03:23:00.067 --> 03:23:02.136
WORK BENCH HAVE I NOW VIOLATED
03:23:02.203 --> 03:23:03.271
THIS GUN VIOLENCE RESTRAINING
03:23:03.337 --> 03:23:05.239
ORDER -- I
03:23:05.306 --> 03:23:06.774
JUST THINK THAT THAT THAT HAVING
03:23:06.841 --> 03:23:08.276
PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW OR
03:23:08.342 --> 03:23:10.511
UNDERSTAND FIREARMS --
03:23:10.578 --> 03:23:12.914
RIGHT FIREARM BILLS AND TRY --
03:23:12.980 --> 03:23:14.115
TO AND TRY TO PROVIDE
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DEFINITIONS IS A IS DANGEROUS
03:23:17.418 --> 03:23:19.020
AND POTENTIALLY PUTS PUTS THE
03:23:19.086 --> 03:23:21.222
RIGHTS OF LAW ABIDING CITIZENS
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ARE IN JEOPARDY IN IS FOR THESE
03:23:23.224 --> 03:23:24.258
REASONS THAT WE OPPOSE THIS
03:23:24.325 --> 03:23:27.261
MEASURE THANK YOU.
03:23:27.328 --> 03:23:27.662
ANY.
03:23:27.728 --> 03:23:31.465
ANY MALES IN OPPOSITION.
03:23:31.532 --> 03:23:32.033
ANY QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE
03:23:32.099 --> 03:23:32.466
MEMBERS [inaudible]
03:23:32.533 --> 03:23:34.936
YEAH.
03:23:35.002 --> 03:23:36.270
DODD WHERE I COMPLETELY
03:23:36.337 --> 03:23:37.939
UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE FOR
03:23:38.005 --> 03:23:40.541
DVR OWES AND I THINK THEY'RE
03:23:40.608 --> 03:23:42.376
IMPORTANT PART OF MAKING SURE
03:23:42.443 --> 03:23:43.544
THAT WE'RE DOING.
03:23:43.611 --> 03:23:44.345
ALL WE CAN TO PREVENT ANY KIND
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OF FOR CIRCUMSTANCES BUT AND THE
03:23:48.883 --> 03:23:50.251
THIS PARTS AND COMPONENTS THING
03:23:50.318 --> 03:23:54.021
IS FAIRLY --
03:23:54.088 --> 03:23:55.523
HARD TO REALLY WRAP MY HEAD
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AROUND AND TO REALLY MAKE A
03:23:57.024 --> 03:23:58.292
DISTINCTIVE I KNOW WHAT THE
03:23:58.359 --> 03:23:59.827
INTENT IS.
03:23:59.894 --> 03:24:01.796
BUT THE APPLICATION IS ALSO BUT
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VERY VERY IMPORTANT.
03:24:03.664 --> 03:24:06.701
AND SO I KNOW THAT DIDN'T WE'VE.
03:24:06.767 --> 03:24:08.135
KIND OF PUT OUR HEADS TOGETHER
03:24:08.202 --> 03:24:09.437
KINDA LOOKING TO SEE IF WE CAN
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GET SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE
03:24:10.605 --> 03:24:11.706
CLARIFYING.
03:24:11.772 --> 03:24:14.241
AND AS A SUGGESTION SIXTEEN FIVE
03:24:14.308 --> 03:24:15.409
TWENTY OF THE PENAL CODE SECTION
03:24:15.476 --> 03:24:17.378
G..
03:24:17.445 --> 03:24:19.213
OF THE LANGUAGE THERE.
03:24:19.280 --> 03:24:20.514
IT HELPS UNDERSTAND LITTLE BIT
03:24:20.581 --> 03:24:22.383
MORE WHEN IT DEFINES A FIREARM
03:24:22.450 --> 03:24:24.085
AND SAYS FIREARM INCLUDES THE
03:24:24.151 --> 03:24:25.386
UNFINISHED FRAME.
03:24:25.453 --> 03:24:27.021
OR RECEIVER OF A WEAPON THAT CAN
03:24:27.088 --> 03:24:28.556
READILY BE CONVERTED INTO THE
03:24:28.623 --> 03:24:29.490
FUNCTIONAL.
03:24:29.557 --> 03:24:31.626
CONDITION OF A FINISHED FRAME OR
03:24:31.692 --> 03:24:33.060
RECEIVER.
03:24:33.127 --> 03:24:35.196
THAT WOULD BE MORE CLARIFYING
03:24:35.262 --> 03:24:35.730
LANGUAGE I THINK WOULD BE
03:24:35.796 --> 03:24:37.999
HELPFUL [inaudible]
03:24:38.065 --> 03:24:39.100
THANK YOU [inaudible]
03:24:39.166 --> 03:24:43.838
OF THEY LOOK QUESTIONS.
03:24:43.904 --> 03:24:45.373
YES TO SKINNER MEGAN.
03:24:45.439 --> 03:24:47.441
YOU ANSWERS QUESTION YOUR
03:24:47.508 --> 03:24:47.675
CLOTHES.
03:24:47.742 --> 03:24:50.544
AND APPRECIATED TO WOULD YOU
03:24:50.611 --> 03:24:51.712
LIKE NICKERSON.
03:24:51.779 --> 03:24:53.981
OKAY I'M ASSEMBLY MEMBER LACKEY
03:24:54.048 --> 03:24:57.284
WE IT'S MY UNDERSTAND THAT THIS
03:24:57.351 --> 03:24:58.252
BILL IF IT'S SUCCESSFUL TODAY
03:24:58.319 --> 03:24:59.587
WOULD GO TO THE PROPS COMMITTEE
03:24:59.654 --> 03:25:01.288
AND I'M CERTAINLY WILLING TO
03:25:01.355 --> 03:25:02.623
LOOK AT THAT PENAL CODE SECTION
03:25:02.690 --> 03:25:05.292
THAT YOU REFERRED REFERENCED --
03:25:05.359 --> 03:25:07.361
BECAUSE CERTAINLY THAT IS OUR
03:25:07.428 --> 03:25:09.930
INTENTION. TO FOR THE INCLUSION
03:25:09.997 --> 03:25:12.199
OF THE FIREARM COMPONENTS.
03:25:12.266 --> 03:25:14.769
AND IT WILL A PART LEAD I WAS --
03:25:14.835 --> 03:25:16.470
INCLUDED ON THE RECOMMENDATION
03:25:16.537 --> 03:25:19.006
OF RDAS.
03:25:19.073 --> 03:25:20.808
BECAUSE OF THE CONCERN THAT.
03:25:20.875 --> 03:25:23.344
BY LAW ENFORCEMENT NOT ASKING
03:25:23.411 --> 03:25:25.513
THE FULL QUESTION.
03:25:25.579 --> 03:25:27.682
IT LEAVING AN AFFECT THE ABILITY
03:25:27.748 --> 03:25:28.949
FOR THE PERSON WHOM THEY ARE
03:25:29.016 --> 03:25:31.085
ASSURING ORDER TO HAVE THE
03:25:31.152 --> 03:25:33.621
ABILITY TO HAVE MATERIALS THAT
03:25:33.688 --> 03:25:34.188
COULD ALLOW THEM TO ASSEMBLY
03:25:34.255 --> 03:25:35.056
WEAPON.
03:25:35.122 --> 03:25:37.058
SO I AM MORE THAN HAPPY TO LOOK
03:25:37.124 --> 03:25:39.060
AT THAT PENAL CODE SECTION.
03:25:39.126 --> 03:25:41.862
AND I'M SURE THE OTHER EXPERTS
03:25:41.929 --> 03:25:42.997
HERE IN THE COMMITTEE MIGHT
03:25:43.064 --> 03:25:44.532
ASSIST ME IN THE ACCU FIRST LAW
03:25:44.598 --> 03:25:46.133
CENTER TO SEE IF IT'S
03:25:46.200 --> 03:25:47.334
APPROPRIATE --
03:25:47.401 --> 03:25:48.869
POTENTIAL AMENDMENT THAT MIGHT
03:25:48.936 --> 03:25:50.838
WORK FOR PROBES [inaudible]
03:25:50.905 --> 03:25:53.574
IF YOU.
03:25:53.641 --> 03:25:56.110
AND WITH THAT EMOTION.
03:25:56.177 --> 03:25:57.578
TECH OKAY.
03:25:57.645 --> 03:26:02.083
MOVED YEAH WE DID WE DID.
03:26:02.149 --> 03:26:03.284
I CHERISH RECOMMEND I CALL VOTE
03:26:03.350 --> 03:26:03.951
ROLE.
03:26:04.018 --> 03:26:04.752
S. B. TWELVE HUNDRED THE MOTION
03:26:04.819 --> 03:26:05.853
IS TO PASS TO THE APPROPRIATIONS
03:26:05.920 --> 03:26:07.655
COMMITTEE JONES SAWYER AYE AYE
03:26:07.722 --> 03:26:09.490
JONES SAWYER AYE AYE LACKEY.
03:26:09.557 --> 03:26:12.026
LACKEY DICAPRIO.
03:26:12.093 --> 03:26:13.661
CARILLO I KAMLAGER-DOVE.
03:26:13.728 --> 03:26:15.296
KAMLAGER-DOVE I KILEY.
03:26:15.362 --> 03:26:17.498
KILEY NO QUIRK.
03:26:17.565 --> 03:26:19.467
QUIRK AYE SANTIAGO [inaudible]
03:26:19.533 --> 03:26:21.669
SANTIAGO AYE.
03:26:21.736 --> 03:26:23.337
THAT MEASURE PASSES GRADUATION
03:26:23.404 --> 03:26:24.705
THINKS FOR ME [inaudible]
03:26:24.772 --> 03:26:26.340
AND NOW.
03:26:26.407 --> 03:26:27.775
WE WILL NOW GO THROUGH ALL
03:26:27.842 --> 03:26:29.176
MEASURES AND VOTE.
03:26:29.243 --> 03:26:31.078
ON THE ON CALL ITEMS AND VOTE
03:26:31.145 --> 03:26:34.014
EDITIONS <c.green> CHAPTERS.</c>
03:26:34.081 --> 03:26:36.183
ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR SANTIAGO
03:26:36.250 --> 03:26:36.484
[inaudible]
03:26:36.550 --> 03:26:39.954
SANTIAGO AYE.
03:26:40.020 --> 03:26:41.288
ITEM NUMBER ONE THIS MEASURE WAS
03:26:41.355 --> 03:26:43.691
ON CALL SP TO TWENTY ONE
03:26:43.758 --> 03:26:45.493
SANTIAGO.
03:26:45.559 --> 03:26:49.096
SANTIAGO AYE THAT MEASURE PASSES.
03:26:49.163 --> 03:26:50.831
I DON'T HAVE TO S. B. TWENTY
03:26:50.898 --> 03:26:52.299
FIVE WAS PULLED BY THE AUTHOR.
03:26:52.366 --> 03:26:53.701
ITEM NUMBER THREE SB NINE SIXTY
03:26:53.768 --> 03:26:55.770
ON CONSENT.
03:26:55.836 --> 03:26:57.738
S. B. [inaudible]
03:26:57.805 --> 03:26:58.639
NINE NINETY SANTIAGO.
03:26:58.706 --> 03:27:01.475
SANTIAGO AYE.
03:27:01.542 --> 03:27:02.977
I AM NUMBER FIVE S. B. TEN TEN
03:27:03.043 --> 03:27:04.712
WAS ON CONSENT.
03:27:04.779 --> 03:27:07.915
ITEM NUMBER SIX SB TEN TWENTY
03:27:07.982 --> 03:27:09.183
FOUR BY SENATOR WILK CUDDLY YOUR
03:27:09.250 --> 03:27:11.452
CARILLO AYE KILEY.
03:27:11.519 --> 03:27:12.887
KILEY AYE SANTIAGO [inaudible]
03:27:12.953 --> 03:27:15.389
SANTIAGO AYE.
03:27:15.456 --> 03:27:17.324
ITEM NUMBER SEVEN SP TEN TWENTY
03:27:17.391 --> 03:27:19.860
FIVE KILEY.
03:27:19.927 --> 03:27:24.031
KILEY NO SANTIAGO SANTIAGO AYE.
03:27:24.098 --> 03:27:25.933
I DON'T NUMBER EIGHT S. B.
03:27:26.000 --> 03:27:27.201
ELEVEN HUNDRED PORTANTINO
03:27:27.268 --> 03:27:27.501
[inaudible]
03:27:27.568 --> 03:27:28.769
SANTIAGO [inaudible]
03:27:28.836 --> 03:27:31.305
SANTIAGO AYE.
03:27:31.372 --> 03:27:33.340
ITEM NUMBER NINE THAT SB ELEVEN
03:27:33.407 --> 03:27:35.976
SIXTY WITH TESTIMONY ONLY.
03:27:36.043 --> 03:27:38.212
ITEM NUMBER TEN SB ELEVEN EIGHTY
03:27:38.279 --> 03:27:40.748
SIX KILEY.
03:27:40.815 --> 03:27:44.552
KILEY NO SANTIAGO SANTIAGO AYE.
03:27:44.618 --> 03:27:47.688
ITEM NUMBER ELEVEN SB.
03:27:47.755 --> 03:27:48.122
ELEVEN EIGHTY SEVEN
03:27:48.189 --> 03:27:49.490
KAMLAGER-DOVE OF KAMLAGER-DOVE
03:27:49.557 --> 03:27:51.759
AYE KILEY.
03:27:51.826 --> 03:27:53.694
KILEY NOT BOATING SANTIAGO.
03:27:53.761 --> 03:27:55.863
SANTIAGO AYE.
03:27:55.930 --> 03:27:57.431
ITEM TWELVE SB ELEVEN NINETY
03:27:57.498 --> 03:28:00.234
EIGHT WITHOUT CONSENT.
03:28:00.301 --> 03:28:02.369
ITEM NUMBER THIRTEEN SP TWELVE
03:28:02.436 --> 03:28:03.003
HUNDRED HAS JUST BEEN DISPENSED
03:28:03.070 --> 03:28:04.238
WITH.
03:28:04.305 --> 03:28:06.240
ITEM FOURTEEN S. B. TWELVE SIXTY
03:28:06.307 --> 03:28:07.975
SIX WAS PULLED BY THE AUTHOR.
03:28:08.042 --> 03:28:10.077
I DON'T A FIFTEEN S. B. TWELVE
03:28:10.144 --> 03:28:11.512
SEVENTY TWO SANTIAGO
03:28:11.579 --> 03:28:11.812
[inaudible]
03:28:11.879 --> 03:28:14.181
FEDERAL AYE.
03:28:14.248 --> 03:28:16.817
ITEMS SIXTEEN S. B. TWELVE
03:28:16.884 --> 03:28:17.418
SEVENTY NINE THIS MEASURE WITH
03:28:17.484 --> 03:28:19.119
PHONE CALL [inaudible]
03:28:19.186 --> 03:28:21.388
CARILLO.
03:28:21.455 --> 03:28:23.324
CARILLO AYE KILEY.
03:28:23.390 --> 03:28:25.893
KILEY NO SANTIAGO.
03:28:25.960 --> 03:28:30.164
SANTIAGO AYE THAT MEASURE PASSES.
03:28:30.231 --> 03:28:31.732
ITEM SEVENTEEN AS B. FORTINO
03:28:31.799 --> 03:28:34.134
NINE GALILEO.
03:28:34.201 --> 03:28:35.903
CARILLO AYE KILEY.
03:28:35.970 --> 03:28:37.371
KILEY AYE SANTIAGO [inaudible]
03:28:37.438 --> 03:28:40.207
SANTIAGO AYE.
03:28:40.274 --> 03:28:41.408
ITEM EIGHTEEN S. B. FOURTEEN
03:28:41.475 --> 03:28:46.780
NINETY FOUR WITHOUT CONSENT.
03:28:46.847 --> 03:28:47.882
THIS INCLUDES TO PUBLIC SAFETY
03:28:47.948 --> 03:29:04.298
COMMITTEE MEETING BACK