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GOOD MORNING I LIKE TO CALL O
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ORDER THE HEARING OF THE
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ASSEMBLY COMMITTEE ON PRIVACY
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AND CONSUMER PROTECTION OF JULY
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THIRD.
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TWENTY EIGHTEEN ARE TODAY WE
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HAVE A TOTAL OF THREE BILLS ON
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THE AGENDA.
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AND I NOTICED THAT --
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SENDS THE JACKSON IS HERE WITH
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US SO AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE.
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TO ASK YOU TO COME UP TO PRESENT
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HER BILLS WE STILL DO NOT HAVE A
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QUORUM SO WE'LL JUST HAVE TO
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PROCEED AS A A SUBCOMMITTEE SO
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WELCOME A SENATOR JACKSON.
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THANK YOU I'M MISTER CHAIR AND
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MEMBERS.
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A I AM DELIGHTED THAT THE ISSUE
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OF PRIVACY IS NOW.
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TAKING THE FRONT AND CENTER ROLE
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THAT IT.
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SHOULD BE TAKING.
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AND DOT IT'S MY PRIVILEGE TO
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PRESENT.
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SENATE BILL.
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THREE TWENTY SEVEN WHICH SEEKS
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TO CREATE A COMMON SENSE KERRY
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REQUIREMENT. FOR INTERNET
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CONNECTED DEVICES.
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THING SUCH AS WIRELESS ROUTERS.
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PURITY CAMERAS AND SMART CITY
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INFRASTRUCTURE.
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IT DOES SO BY DIRECTING
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MANUFACTURERS OF THESE DEVICES.
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TO EQUIP THEIR PRODUCTS WITH
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REASONABLE SECURITY FEATURES.
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YOU THINK THAT THAT WAS SORT OF
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A GIVEN.
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BUT THE FACT IS THERE IS
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CURRENTLY NO REQUIREMENT.
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THAT THEY DO THIS.
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SO OUR I'D FIRST LIKE TO START
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BY ACCEPTING THE AMENDMENTS THAT
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ARE OUTLINED.
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IN THE IN ALICE'S AUTHORS
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AMENDMENTS AND THANK YOUR STAFF.
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UP FOR THEIR DILIGENCE HERE I
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THINK THERE ARE APPROPRIATE AND
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HELPFUL AND WILL --
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GO ALONG WAY TO ACHIEVING THE
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ULTIMATE GOAL HERE AND DELIGHTED
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TO ALSO HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE
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INDUSTRY TECH AND IN PARTICULAR
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AND I THINK THEY'RE HERE TO
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TESTIFY AS WELL --
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YOU KNOW IT WE LIVE IN A BRAVE
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NEW WORLD WHERE INTERNET
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CONNECTED DEVICES HAVE MOVED
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WELL.
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BEYOND TRADITIONAL DESKTOP
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COMPUTERS AND I LOOK AT THE
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MEMBERS OF THIS COMMITTEE AND
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I'M NOT TELLING YOU ANYTHING
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THAT YOU.
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DON'T ALREADY KNOW.
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BUT TODAY'S ELECTRONIC DEVICES
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THAT CONNECT TO THE INTERNET AND
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THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY TWENTY
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FIVE BILLION OF THEM.
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THEY INCLUDE MICROWAVES AND
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REFRIGERATORS AND HOME DEVICES.
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LIKE THERMOSTATS AND SECURITY
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CAMERAS UNFORTUNATELY A
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SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THESE
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DEVICES.
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LACK EVEN THE MOST BASIC
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SECURITY FEATURES.
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SUCH AS CHANGEABLE PASSWORDS AND
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USER ACCESS CONTROLS.
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BUT WHAT CONCERNS ME THE MOST.
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OUR INTERNET CONNECTED TOYS.
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AND THE RISKS THAT THEY POSE TO
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OUR CHILDREN AND THIS IS WHAT.
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DREW ME TO THIS ISSUE --
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ORIGINALLY.
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THE KELLY DAHLE.
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WHICH THE COUNTRY OF GERMANY HAS
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NOW BANNED AND CONFISCATED.
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BECAUSE THEY ALLOWED ANYONE TO
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BE ABLE TO ACCESS INFORMATION
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THAT THEY WOULD GLEAN FROM
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CHILDREN.
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OR DIRECT CHILDREN GO TO PLACES.
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WHERE THEY WOULD BE UNSAFE?
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THE THE IMAGINATION AND
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INVENTIVENESS OF THE HUMAN MIND
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IS VIRTUALLY UNLIMITED AND THE
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GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE THAT ITS
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USE FOR GOOD.
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AND NOT FOR POTENTIAL EVIL
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[inaudible]
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SO.
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RESEARCHERS HAVE FOUND AS I
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MENTION THAT THIS AT ALL.
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HAS A SECURITY FLAW.
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THAT ALLOW STRANGERS TO SPEAK
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DIRECTLY TO CHILDREN VIA THE
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DAHLE FROM UP TO FIFTY FEET AWAY.
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INCLUDING THROUGH THE WALLS OF A
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CHILD'S BEDROOM. FOR YEARS THERE
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HAVE BEEN REPORTS OF STRANGERS
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TALKING TO CHILDREN THROUGH
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INSECURE BABY MONITORS.
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RESEARCHERS HAVE ALSO INCLUDE
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ARE CONCLUDED.
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THE THOUSANDS OF INSECURE WEB
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CAMERAS MADE BY THE CHINESE
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SELECTRIC ELECTRONICS BERMAN I
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CAN'T.
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DO JUSTICE TO THE NAME IS SHOWN
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MAY.
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WERE TAKEN OVER BY HACKERS AND
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TURNED INTO A BOTNET ARMY.
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DURING A MAJOR CYBERATTACK IN.
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TWENTY SIXTEEN THAT DISABLED THE
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WEBSITES OF TWITTER SPOTIFY THE
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NEW YORK TIMES IN AIRBNB.
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AND I AM NOT ALONE IN THOSE
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CONCERNS THE PUBLIC IS ALSO
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GRAVELY AWARE OF THIS IN
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SECURITY.
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AND OCTOBER TWENTY SEVENTEEN
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NASDAQ JAMAL TOE SURVEY FOUND
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THAT. 90% OF CONSUMERS LACK
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CONFIDENCE IN THE SECURITY OF
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INTERNET OF THINGS DEVICES.
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MOST ORGANIZATIONS 96%.
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AND 90% OF CONSUMERS BELIEVE
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THERE'S A NEED FOR I OR T.
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SECURITY REGULATIONS AND WANT
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GOVERNMENT INVOLVEMENT.
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AND A HACKER CONTROLLING I O. T.
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DEVICES IS THE MOST COMMON
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CONCERN OF CONSUMERS.
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WHILE SIXTEEN PIN WORRY ABOUT
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THEIR DATA BEING STOLEN.
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THESE ARE CONCERNS THAT HAS TIME
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HAS EVOLVED HAVE BEEN PROVEN TO
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BE ACCURATE.
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I AM NOT A TECHNICAL.
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I AM ON MY PHONE HYPE LAPTOP AS
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MUCH AS ANYONE I SHOULD ADMIT TO
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THAT BECAUSE WE'RE ALL ON THEM
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TOO MUCH.
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BUT I GET IT MY FACE TIME WITH
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MY GRANDCHILDREN REGULARLY.
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IT'S A JOY FOR ANYONE WHO --
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HAS GRANDCHILDREN OF COURSE THEN
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WHEN YOU SHOW UP THEY'RE NOT
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PREPARED TO SEE A REAL PERSON IN
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THREE DIMENSIONS BUT BE THAT AS
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IT MAY.
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THAT THAT WILL PROBABLY GET
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FIXED AT SOME POINT AS WELL.
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AND I AM AS EXCITED BY THE AS IS
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THE NEXT PERSON BY NEW
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TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCES.
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THAT ALLOW US TO CONNECT IN NEW
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WAYS TO GIVE US ACCESS TO
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INFORMATION AT OUR FINGERTIPS.
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BUT I AM CONCERNED WHEN
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TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCES PROCEED
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WITHOUT ADEQUATE SAFEGUARDS.
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AS AMENDED THIS BILL WOULD
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REQUIRE MANUFACTURERS TO EQUIP
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THEIR INTERNET CONNECTED DEVICES.
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WITH REASONABLE SECURITY
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FEATURES BASED ON THE NATURE OF
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THE MACHINE IT USE.
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WHICH COULD INCLUDE SUCH THINGS
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AS THE ABILITY.
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CHANGE DEFAULT PASSWORDS OR
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DETECT POTENTIAL HACKERS THESE
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AMENDMENTS ALLOWING THREE TWENTY
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SEVEN WITH ASSEMBLY WOMAN IRWIN
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CHAU T. SECURITY BILL AB.
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NINETEEN OH SIX WHICH THIS
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COMMITTEE PASSED A COUPLE MONTHS
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AGO BRINGING TOGETHER THE
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ELEMENTS THE BEST OF BOTH OF
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THESE BILLS.
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THERE IS NO QUESTION TECHNOLOGY
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HAS AND CONTINUES TO
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REVOLUTIONIZE OUR LIVES.
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BUT IT'S UP TO US AS POLICY
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MAKERS TO ENSURE THE TECHNOLOGY
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SERVES THE PEOPLE.
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AND THAT SECURITY IS NOT AN
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AFTERTHOUGHT BUT RATHER A KEY
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COMPONENT OF THE DESIGN PROCESS.
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AND HERE TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT
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OF THESE OF THIS BILL TODAY ARE
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SOME OF THE LEADERS ON THESE
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ISSUES BOTH IN TERMS OF THE
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TECHNOLOGY.
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AND THE POLICY ASSOCIATED WITH
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THEM SAMANTHA CORBIN FROM COMMON
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SENSE KIDS ACTION.
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EYES EMILY RUSH HERE EMILY EMILY
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SH IT IS HERE YES THANK YOU --
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EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF CALPERS
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AND ROSEMARY SHAM WITH CARS.
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I WOULD RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
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YOUR IPHONE.
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH OUR FIRST
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WITNESS PLEASE.
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I THINK THAT'S ME MISTER CHAIR
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GOOD MORNING THROUGHOUT THE
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CORPSMAN ON BEHALF OF COMMON
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SENSE MEDIA SPONSOR OF THE
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MEASURE WOULD LIKE TO THINK THE
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AUTHOR AND HER STAFF FOR THIS
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HARD WORK FOR THEIR HARD WORK ON
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THIS MEASURE OVER THE LAST TWO
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YEARS AND JUST GENERALLY ALL THE
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WORK.
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THAT YOU'VE DONE CHAMPIONING
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PRIVACY AND SECURITY ISSUES FOR
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CHILDREN AND FAMILIES.
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AND COMMON SENSE MEDIA IS IN
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ADVOCACY ARM OR COMMONSENSE
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ACTUALLY SEES ME AS THE POLICY
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AND ADVOCACY ARM OF COMMON SENSE
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MEDIA AND WORKS TO ENSURE THAT
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EVERY CHILD HAS WHAT THEY NEED
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TO THRIVE IN A WORLD OF MEDIA
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AND TECHNOLOGY.
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MORE AND MORE FAMILIES ARE
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WELCOMING CONNECTED DEVICES IN
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THEIR HOMES FROM THE AMAZON ECHO
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ONTO GOOGLE HOME TO SMART TV'S
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TALKING TEDDY BEARS AND PRODUCTS
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THAT ARE DESIGNED FOR CHILDREN
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AS WELL AS THOSE.
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AT THAT ARE NOT DESIGNED FOR
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CHILDREN AND MORE OFTEN THAN NOT
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AS THE SENATOR MENTIONED THE
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PRIVACY AND SECURITY ARE AN
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AFTERTHOUGHT IN THE RUSH TO GET
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THESE PRODUCTS OUT TO MARKET --
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AS CONNECTIVITY MOVES FROM
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COMPUTERS AND CELLPHONES TO
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EVERYTHING FROM TEDDY BEARS TO
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TOASTERS WERE PUTTING MORE OF
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OURSELVES AND MORE OF OUR
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CHILDREN.
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AT RISK THE COMBINATION OF
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INSECURITY INTERCONNECTEDNESS
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AND MASSIVE AND OFTEN UNEXPECTED
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INFORMATION COLLECTION CREATES A
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TRIPLE WHAMMY WHERE ME FOR
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FAMILIES.
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AND EXPERTS PREDICT THE HACKING
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OF SMART DEVICES WILL ONLY
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INCREASE IN COMING YEARS LEADING.
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TO EVERYTHING FROM PRIVACY HARM
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TO PHYSICAL RISK INDUSTRY
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LEADERS THEMSELVES HAVE SOUNDED
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THE ALARM THAT CONNECTED DEVICES
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ARE DESPERATELY BEHIND WHEN IT
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COMES TO SECURITY STANDARDS AND
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NINE OUT OF TEN CONSUMERS LACK
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CONFIDENCE AND THE SECURITY OF
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CONNECTED DEVICES.
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BY ENSURING THAT CONNECTED
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DEVICES MEET BASIC SECURITY
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STANDARDS APPROPRIATE TO THE
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NATURE OF THE DEVICE AND THE
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INFORMATION THAT THEY COLLECT S.
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B. THREE TWO SEVEN ONE ACT
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COMMONSENSE PROTECTIONS THAT GET
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FAMILIES THE PEACE OF MIND THEY
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DESERVE.
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WE ASK FOR YOUR AYE VOTE TODAY
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THANK YOU THANK YOU MUCH NEXT
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WITNESS PLEASE TIME EMILY RATS
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EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF COW PARA
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THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC INTEREST
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RESEARCH GROUP.
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I'M LIKE SENATOR JACKSON AND
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COMMON SENSE KIDS I THINK WE
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CAME TO THIS ISSUE LOOKING FIRST
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AND FOREMOST AT CHILDREN --
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WE DO AN ANNUAL TOY SAFETY
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REPORT EVERY YEAR PASSED FOR THE
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HOLIDAY SHOPPING SEASON TO GIVE
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PARENTS TIPS ABOUT WHAT'S ON
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STORE SHELVES THAT THEY SHOULD
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BE CONSIDERING --
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WHEN THEY PURCHASE TOYS AND I'M
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FOR THE FIRST TIME THIS PAST
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YEAR WE INCLUDED INTERNET
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CONNECTED DEVICES?
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I'M AND TOYS AS ONE OF THE KEY
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CATEGORIES THAT PARENTS SHOULD
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BE I'M JUST THINKING CAREFULLY
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ABOUT BEFORE BRINGING THESE
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DEVICES INTO THEIR HOMES AND
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MAKING SURE THAT THEY DO HAVE
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SECURITY FEATURES.
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I'M ONE THING THAT HAS BEEN
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MENTIONED IS THAT THE FBI HAS
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ACTUALLY ISSUED A WARNING --
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TO PARENTS TO CONSIDER SITE
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ACTED TOYS INTO THE HOME.
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YEAH AND I'M IN ADDITION TO THE
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MY FRANK HERE WHAT ALL.
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I WISH WE HAD OUR EVENT ARE BUT
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TO A SAFETY ABOUT LAST NOVEMBER
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THERE WAS THE ISSUE OF THE CLOUD
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PETS TEDDY BEAR --
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AT ITS IS THE BEAR THAT WHERE
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PIC PARENTS AND KIDS CAN SEND
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MESSAGES TO EACH OTHER FROM FAR
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AWAY --
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THROUGH MESSAGE RECORDINGS IT
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TURNS OUT THAT THE COMPANY WHO --
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WAS AT A KEPT ALL THOSE MESSAGES
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IN EASY TO HACK DATABASE AND TWO
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MILLION RECORDINGS WERE FOUND
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ONLINE.
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I'M SO DID THESE ARE REALLY
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IMPORTANT ISSUES FROM PIC FOR
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PARENTS TO CONSIDERING CHILDREN
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ALTHOUGH THIS IS NT AN ISSUE
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JUST LIMITED TO PARENTS AND KIDS.
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I'M I KNOW I WAS PERSONALLY
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COMPELLED BY ED FRONT PAGE STORY
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IN THE NEW YORK TIMES LAST
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SUNDAY ABOUT HOW INTERNET
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CONNECTED DEVICES CAN BE USED IN
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DOMESTIC ABUSE ABUSE CASE SAYS.
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I'M AGAINST --
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THAT VICTIMS AND SO I THINK IT'S
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REALLY IMPORTANT ISSUE AND I
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THINK THAT THIS BILL WILL HELP
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ENSURE THAT COMPANIES ARE
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PUTTING SECURITY FEATURES FIRST
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THANK YOU.
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THANK YOU NEXT WITNESS PLEASE.
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MISTER CHAIRMAN MEMBERS ARE IS A
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VERY SHE HIM PRESIDENT CONSUMERS
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FOR AUTO RELIABILITY AND SAFETY.
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AND WE GREATLY APPRECIATE
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SENATOR JACKSON'S LEADERSHIP ON
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THIS ISSUE AND WE HAVE VERY
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SERIOUS CONCERNS EVENT ECHOED BY
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THE FBI AND OTHERS ABOUT THE
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SECURITY PARTICULARLY MOTOR
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VEHICLES WHICH THESE DAYS ARE
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BASICALLY COMPUTERS ON WHEELS.
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AND ESPECIALLY EASY BECOME
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INCREASINGLY AUTONOMOUS IT'S
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VITALLY IMPORTANT THAT THEY BE
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SECURE.
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AND WE'VE ALREADY HAD PROBLEMS
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WITH PACKING FOR INTO ITS
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CHRYSLER --
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HAD TO RECALL --
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MANY OF ITS VEHICLES BECAUSE
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THERE WAS A FLAW THAT ALLOWED
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HACKERS TO REMOTELY CONTROL THEM.
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POSING IN ON PRESIDENT DANGER.
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FOR NOT ONLY THOSE WHO ARE DRIVE
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PASSENGERS AND OTHERS WHO SHARE
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THE ROADS.
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AND HACKERS COULD CUT THE BRAKES
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SHUT DOWN THE ENGINE DRIVER OFF
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THE ROAD OR MAKE ALL THE
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ELECTRONICS GO HAYWIRE.
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THERE ARE NO FEDERAL STANDARDS
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UNFORTUNATELY --
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REGARDING MOTOR VEHICLE SEACM
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SECURITY SO IT'S UP TO THE
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STATES TO ACT ON THAT.
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AND WE WOULD ALSO NOTE THAT THE
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FBI IS ONE THAT ECONOMIST CARS
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COULD BE USED AS LETHAL WEAPONS.
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AND THEY HAVE PREDICTED THAT IT
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THOMAS CARS WILL HAVE QUOTE A
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HIGH IMPACT ON TRANSFORMING WHAT
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BOTH LAW ENFORCEMENT AND ITS
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ADVERSARIES.
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CAN OPERATIONALLY TO WITH A CAR --
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SO WE NEED TO BE COGNIZANT OF
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THAT AND I THINK ANTICIPATE
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PROBLEMS BEFORE THEY GET WORSE.
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AND WE WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE
00:34:54.158 --> 00:34:56.994
YOUR AYE VOTE FOR THIS BILL.
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR
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TESTIMONY SELL ADDITIONAL
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WITNESSES IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL
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PLEASE STEP FORWARD.
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PLEASE TELL US WHO YOU ARE AND
00:35:04.435 --> 00:35:06.037
THE ASSOCIATION OR COMPANY THAT
00:35:06.103 --> 00:35:08.306
YOU WITH.
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SITTING ATTACK OUR CONSUMER
00:35:09.740 --> 00:35:10.208
ATTORNEYS OF CALIFORNIANS
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SUPPORT THANK YOU NEXT PLACE.
00:35:15.246 --> 00:35:15.379
HI --
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FEELING GRIEVES WITH ADVANCED
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MEDICAL TECHNOLOGY ASSOCIATION
00:35:17.915 --> 00:35:19.317
WERE ACTUALLY A NEUTRAL ON THE
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BILL BUT WE JUST WANTED TO COME
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TO A BRIEF COMMENT.
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A CYBERSECURITY SLICK BAKED INTO
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ALL OF OUR PRODUCT DESIGNED
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THROUGHOUT THE LIFECYCLE WE
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REALLY WANT TO THANK THE SENATOR
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FOR WORKING WITH US ON THESE
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ISSUES OUT OVER THE LAST TWO
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YEARS REALLY APPRECIATE THE
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COLLABORATIVE FAT PROTEGER SHE'S
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TAKEN WEEKLY WORK CLOSELY WITH
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HER SO.
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THANK YOU SO MUCH AND I ALSO
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BECOME FREE LIFE SCIENCES
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SOCIAIS XIN ECHOES ARE COMMENTS.
00:35:39.837 --> 00:35:43.641
THANK YOU MATCH NEXT PLACE --
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MAUREEN HIGGINS REPRESENTING
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VIACOM AYE ONE ASSOCIATE MY
00:35:46.277 --> 00:35:47.678
COMMENTS WITH MY COLLEAGUE WE
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ARE HAPPILY NEUTRAL WE WANT TO
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THANK THE AUTHOR INNER STAFF IN
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ASSEMBLY MEMBER ONE FOR ALL OF
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THEIR WORK ON THIS ISSUE.
00:35:53.384 --> 00:35:54.085
THANK YOU VERY MUCH JOHN
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OPPOSITION.
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AT THIS TIME LOTSA ESTABLISH
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QUORUM.
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BROKAW PLACE NO MAN'S.
00:36:08.900 --> 00:36:11.836
CHAO HERE HIGHLY.
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BAKER HERE BERMAN THERE
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[inaudible]
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CALDERON [inaudible]
00:36:15.306 --> 00:36:16.541
GABRIEL [inaudible]
00:36:16.607 --> 00:36:17.775
IRWIN [inaudible]
00:36:17.842 --> 00:36:20.645
MULLIN [inaudible]
00:36:20.711 --> 00:36:21.112
OBERNOLTE [inaudible]
00:36:21.178 --> 00:36:23.514
REYES.
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH WELCOME
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OPPOSITION --
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ANYTIME YOU'RE READY PLEASE
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BEGIN.
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THANK YOU MISTER CHAIRMAN I'M
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KEVIN MESSNER I'M WITH THE
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ASSOCIATION OF HOME APPLIANCE
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MANUFACTURERS --
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SO ONE TO GIVE A PERSPECTIVE
00:36:35.526 --> 00:36:37.261
FROM MANUFACTURERS BLACKS
00:36:37.328 --> 00:36:38.796
THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO MAKE THESE
00:36:38.863 --> 00:36:39.797
PRODUCTS TO DEAL WITH AND WHICH
00:36:39.864 --> 00:36:41.732
DEAL WITH SMART APPLIANCES
00:36:41.799 --> 00:36:43.367
REFRIGERATORS.
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NUMBER SMART APPLIANCES THAT ARE
00:36:44.735 --> 00:36:47.738
OUT THERE --
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AND THEN WERE HOPEFUL AND
00:36:51.842 --> 00:36:53.678
HOPEFULLY ENCOURAGE TO TO WORK
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WITH THE SENATOR --
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ON THIS IS WELL WE DON'T HAVE
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ANY DISAGREEMENT ON THE
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OBJECTIVE.
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WE WANT.
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THE HOME TO BE.
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A SECURE OR AND ANY WEEK WINKLE
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WEAK LINK AND THE HOME --
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SOME FROM SOME OTHER PRODUCT
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BEING BROUGHT AND IS PROBLEMATIC
00:37:11.796 --> 00:37:14.865
SO WE WANT IT TO BE STRONG.
00:37:14.932 --> 00:37:17.535
OUR ISSUES ARE WITH THE WAY THE
00:37:17.602 --> 00:37:19.904
BILL AS DRAFTED NOW.
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IS THE BEST WAY TO HANDLE
00:37:21.672 --> 00:37:24.075
CYBERSECURITY IS THROUGH.
00:37:24.141 --> 00:37:26.243
PROTOCOLS AND PROCEDURES THAT
00:37:26.310 --> 00:37:27.645
CHANGES THREATS AND
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VULNERABILITIES OF ALL --
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BUT THAT CAN BE HANDLED BESTER
00:37:32.483 --> 00:37:35.286
NATIONAL CONSENSUS STANDARDS --
00:37:35.353 --> 00:37:37.321
THERE THERE'S ONE OUT THERE NOW
00:37:37.388 --> 00:37:38.723
THERE'S YOU WELL TWENTY NINE
00:37:38.789 --> 00:37:39.523
HUNDRED THAT'S BEEN ADOPTED BY
00:37:39.590 --> 00:37:41.025
CANADA IT SETS OUT.
00:37:41.092 --> 00:37:42.893
RISK ANALYSIS AUTHENTICATION
00:37:42.960 --> 00:37:44.795
PROCEDURES.
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THAT'S HOW SECURITY IS DONE
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[inaudible]
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IT'S IT'S PROBLEMATIC WHEN IT'S
00:37:50.234 --> 00:37:54.438
THE A VAGUE REASONABLE SECURITY
00:37:54.505 --> 00:37:56.407
FEATURE THAT LAWYERS CAN ARGUE
00:37:56.474 --> 00:37:59.276
ABOUT AFTER.
00:37:59.343 --> 00:38:01.245
AND AND HINDSIGHT'S ALWAYS
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TWENTY TWENTY WITH SECURITY
00:38:02.346 --> 00:38:02.580
[inaudible]
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IF.
00:38:04.849 --> 00:38:05.983
WE'LL LOOK BACK JUST GET INTO
00:38:06.050 --> 00:38:07.118
THE BUILDING THIS MORNING I YOU
00:38:07.184 --> 00:38:09.053
SEE PEOPLE TAKE THEIR LAPTOPS
00:38:09.120 --> 00:38:09.220
OUT.
00:38:09.286 --> 00:38:10.688
THAT'S NOW.
00:38:10.755 --> 00:38:12.456
IT'S SITTARD REASONABLE SECURITY
00:38:12.523 --> 00:38:14.191
YOU TAKE OUT YOUR LAPTOP BEFORE
00:38:14.258 --> 00:38:15.559
THAT IT HAPPENED IT WASN'T
00:38:15.626 --> 00:38:16.694
REASONABLE SECURITY TAKE OUT
00:38:16.761 --> 00:38:18.896
YOUR LAPTOP BUT YOU COULD TO
00:38:18.963 --> 00:38:19.964
MANUFACTURE SUBJECT TO
00:38:20.031 --> 00:38:22.066
ENFORCEMENT TEN FIFTEEN YEARS
00:38:22.133 --> 00:38:22.700
AFTER THE FACT SANTA YOU SHOULD
00:38:22.767 --> 00:38:24.335
HAVE KNOWN THAT.
00:38:24.402 --> 00:38:27.338
AND SO HINDSIGHT'S ALWAYS.
00:38:27.405 --> 00:38:27.905
TWENTY TWENTY WE JUST DON'T
00:38:27.972 --> 00:38:29.140
WANNA BE SUBJECT THE MONDAY
00:38:29.206 --> 00:38:30.441
MORNING QUARTERBACKING BY
00:38:30.508 --> 00:38:32.510
LAWYERS WOULD LIKE TO HAVE
00:38:32.576 --> 00:38:33.744
STRONG CYBERSECURITY
00:38:33.811 --> 00:38:34.045
[inaudible]
00:38:34.111 --> 00:38:36.914
AND WE THINK THAT WE CAN GET
00:38:36.981 --> 00:38:39.250
THERE IF YOU UTILIZE THE BASIS
00:38:39.316 --> 00:38:41.786
OF NATIONAL CONSENSUS STANDARDS.
00:38:41.852 --> 00:38:43.788
I CAN GET US THERE INSTEAD OF A
00:38:43.854 --> 00:38:47.024
VAGUE REASONABLE SECURITY.
00:38:47.091 --> 00:38:49.193
SO WE'D LIKE TO HAVE A STRONG.
00:38:49.260 --> 00:38:50.161
CYBERSECURITY BILL WE DON'T
00:38:50.227 --> 00:38:52.329
REALLY ONE A JOB SECURITY BILL
00:38:52.396 --> 00:38:53.564
FOR LAWYERS AND ENFORCEMENT
00:38:53.631 --> 00:38:56.200
FOLKS -- AND
00:38:56.267 --> 00:38:57.334
WE THINK WE CAN GET THERE NO WE
00:38:57.401 --> 00:38:59.070
THINK WE GET TECHNICAL FOLKS AND
00:38:59.136 --> 00:39:01.472
WE ALL ENDS NINE CENTER I THINK.
00:39:01.539 --> 00:39:02.173
ONE OF HI BIG WHAT WE'RE
00:39:02.239 --> 00:39:04.041
HOPEFUL THAT WE GET EVERYBODY IN
00:39:04.108 --> 00:39:04.942
THE ROOM.
00:39:05.009 --> 00:39:07.411
AND GET MANUFACTURES AND TO TALK
00:39:07.478 --> 00:39:08.679
ABOUT HOW THINGS SHOULD BE
00:39:08.746 --> 00:39:10.514
DESIGNED BASED ON PROTOCOLS AND
00:39:10.581 --> 00:39:12.283
PROCEDURES.
00:39:12.349 --> 00:39:14.385
NOT BASED ON JUST.
00:39:14.452 --> 00:39:15.753
REGIONAL SECURITY FEATURES SO
00:39:15.820 --> 00:39:16.954
THANK YOU.
00:39:17.021 --> 00:39:17.555
THANK YOU MATCH ANNEX WHEN HIS
00:39:17.621 --> 00:39:21.325
PLACE.
00:39:21.392 --> 00:39:21.826
I THINK THE CHAIRED THE
00:39:21.892 --> 00:39:24.495
COMMITTEE OF THE AUTHOR --
00:39:24.562 --> 00:39:25.796
BOTH SENATOR JACKSON AND IS A
00:39:25.863 --> 00:39:27.131
MEMBER IRWIN FOR THE WORK ON THE
00:39:27.198 --> 00:39:28.532
BILL SO FAR NOT MANY MISTRAL
00:39:28.599 --> 00:39:29.867
COOK A REPRESENT THE CALIFORNIA
00:39:29.934 --> 00:39:31.302
MANUFACTURERS AND TECHNOLOGY
00:39:31.368 --> 00:39:32.970
ASSOCIATION WHERE IT SOMEWHAT
00:39:33.037 --> 00:39:34.805
UNUSUAL POSITION ON THIS BILL
00:39:34.872 --> 00:39:36.340
AND THAT WE HAVE NOT YET TAKEN A
00:39:36.407 --> 00:39:37.842
POSITION --
00:39:37.908 --> 00:39:39.410
BECAUSE WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY
00:39:39.477 --> 00:39:41.011
TO MEET WITH SENATOR JACKSON'S
00:39:41.078 --> 00:39:41.579
OFFICE --
00:39:41.645 --> 00:39:42.580
AND ASSEMBLY MEMBER IRWIN'S
00:39:42.646 --> 00:39:44.348
OFFICE STAFF YESTERDAY TO I
00:39:44.415 --> 00:39:47.051
DISCUSS OUR ISSUES --
00:39:47.118 --> 00:39:47.818
AND THOSE COMPANIES WERE VERY
00:39:47.885 --> 00:39:49.153
PRODUCTIVE OUTS WERE HOPING TO
00:39:49.220 --> 00:39:51.422
CONTINUE BUT OUT WE HAVE BEEN
00:39:51.489 --> 00:39:53.290
OPPOSE UNLESS AMENDED TO THE
00:39:53.357 --> 00:39:55.826
COMPANION BILL TO SB --
00:39:55.893 --> 00:39:57.528
THREE TWENTY SEVEN WHICH IS AB
00:39:57.595 --> 00:40:00.531
NINETEEN OH SIX AND WE PER TO
00:40:00.598 --> 00:40:01.098
THIS COMMITTEE WHEN IT WAS
00:40:01.165 --> 00:40:01.499
INITIALLY HEARD --
00:40:01.565 --> 00:40:03.701
AND BECAUSE THE BILLS HAVE
00:40:03.768 --> 00:40:05.035
IDENTICAL LANGUAGE WE HAVE
00:40:05.102 --> 00:40:06.303
SIMILAR ISSUES --
00:40:06.370 --> 00:40:07.972
WITH THIS BILL FIRST --
00:40:08.038 --> 00:40:09.140
IS WITH THE DEFINITION OF
00:40:09.206 --> 00:40:10.474
MANUFACTURER --
00:40:10.541 --> 00:40:12.777
IT EXPRESSLY EXCLUDES PEOPLE
00:40:12.843 --> 00:40:15.045
THAT IMPORT --
00:40:15.112 --> 00:40:17.114
AND RESELL CONNECTED DEVICES
00:40:17.181 --> 00:40:18.449
UNDER THEIR OWN PRIVATE LABEL
00:40:18.516 --> 00:40:20.117
THIS IS AN ISSUE OF FOR EXAMPLE
00:40:20.184 --> 00:40:21.552
SENATOR JACKSON MENTIONED A
00:40:21.619 --> 00:40:23.821
YOUNG MY CHINESE MANUFACTURER
00:40:23.888 --> 00:40:25.389
THEY'RE ACTUALLY NOT GOING TO BE
00:40:25.456 --> 00:40:26.724
COVERED BY THIS BILL.
00:40:26.791 --> 00:40:27.792
AYE BECAUSE THEY ARE A CHINESE
00:40:27.858 --> 00:40:29.360
MANUFACTURER AND THEY DO NOT
00:40:29.426 --> 00:40:30.961
SELL THEIR PRODUCTS TO END USERS
00:40:31.028 --> 00:40:32.429
THE ONLY WAY THAT THEIR PRODUCTS
00:40:32.496 --> 00:40:34.165
INTO THE MARKET IS THROUGH THE
00:40:34.231 --> 00:40:35.266
WORK --
00:40:35.332 --> 00:40:36.634
IMPORTERS --
00:40:36.700 --> 00:40:38.502
THAT.
00:40:38.569 --> 00:40:40.171
IMPORTANT IS ALREADY EXISTING
00:40:40.237 --> 00:40:42.339
MANUFACTURED DEVICES THAT THEY
00:40:42.406 --> 00:40:42.940
DON'T CONTRACT FOR THE ALREADY
00:40:43.007 --> 00:40:43.440
SOURCE.
00:40:43.507 --> 00:40:44.208
THE IMPORT THEM TO THE
00:40:44.275 --> 00:40:46.110
CALIFORNIA MARKET THEY PUT THEIR
00:40:46.177 --> 00:40:47.178
PRIVATE LABEL ON THEM AND THEY
00:40:47.244 --> 00:40:48.412
RESULT.
00:40:48.479 --> 00:40:49.580
IN THE PREVIOUS ANALYSIS OF AB
00:40:49.647 --> 00:40:50.881
NINETEEN A SIX A GOOD EXAMPLE OF
00:40:50.948 --> 00:40:53.017
THIS IS THE COMPANY TRENDNET IN
00:40:53.083 --> 00:40:54.885
THEIR SECURE VIEW CAMERAS --
00:40:54.952 --> 00:40:57.154
THAT ISSUE IT'S IS CAUSED BY
00:40:57.221 --> 00:40:58.856
THOSE IMPORT AS A RESELLER SO AS
00:40:58.923 --> 00:41:00.524
LONG AS THE DEFINITION OF OF
00:41:00.591 --> 00:41:01.525
MANUFACTURE EXCLUDES THOSE
00:41:01.592 --> 00:41:03.994
PEOPLE WE CAN NEVER HAVE A TRULY
00:41:04.061 --> 00:41:05.095
CYBER -- SHE
00:41:05.162 --> 00:41:05.696
CYBERSECURITY BOTH GOING TO
00:41:05.763 --> 00:41:06.931
FRUSTRATE THE PURPOSE OF THIS
00:41:06.997 --> 00:41:08.599
BILL BECAUSE SENATORS UNSECURE
00:41:08.666 --> 00:41:10.568
DEVICES ARE ON OUR NETWORKS --
00:41:10.634 --> 00:41:11.936
ALL THE EFFORT THAT WE MAKE TO
00:41:12.002 --> 00:41:13.671
SECURE OUR DEVICES ARE MOOT AYE
00:41:13.737 --> 00:41:14.939
IT ALSO PLACES AT A COMPETITIVE
00:41:15.005 --> 00:41:16.006
DISADVANTAGE BECAUSE THESE
00:41:16.073 --> 00:41:17.174
PEOPLE INCREASE THEIR MARKET
00:41:17.241 --> 00:41:19.877
SHARE -- OUR
00:41:19.944 --> 00:41:22.713
MANUFACTURERS THAT DO THINGS BY
00:41:22.780 --> 00:41:23.981
THESE CHEAPER UNSECURE DEVICES
00:41:24.048 --> 00:41:26.917
BUT THE SECOND ISSUE IS THE
00:41:26.984 --> 00:41:28.252
REASONABLENESS TEST WE BELIEVE
00:41:28.319 --> 00:41:29.854
IT SHOULD INCLUDE OR SHOULD BE
00:41:29.920 --> 00:41:32.489
TIED TO A BROADER --
00:41:32.556 --> 00:41:34.558
NUMBER OF INDUSTRY STANDARDS ARE
00:41:34.625 --> 00:41:35.926
DEVELOPED BY TWO SECURITY ENTRY
00:41:35.993 --> 00:41:38.128
EXPERTS OR OTHER CREDITED BODIES
00:41:38.195 --> 00:41:39.296
THAT ADDRESS --
00:41:39.363 --> 00:41:40.965
FORESEEABLE VULNERABILITIES
00:41:41.031 --> 00:41:43.267
RIGHT NOW THE BILL EXPRESSLY --
00:41:43.334 --> 00:41:44.501
EXPERT MOVES LIABILITY OF
00:41:44.568 --> 00:41:46.670
COMPANIES ADOPT PASSWORDS BUT IF
00:41:46.737 --> 00:41:48.405
A COMPANY WERE TO ADOPT MORE
00:41:48.472 --> 00:41:49.807
SECURE MEANS THAT A PASSWORD
00:41:49.874 --> 00:41:51.408
IT'S STILL AN OPEN QUESTION AS
00:41:51.475 --> 00:41:52.877
TO WHETHER OR NOT THEY WOULD BE --
00:41:52.943 --> 00:41:54.211
LIABLE UNDER THIS BILL NOT FROM
00:41:54.278 --> 00:41:55.312
FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE DOESN'T
00:41:55.379 --> 00:41:57.781
MAKE ANY SENSE WE DO MORE THAN A
00:41:57.848 --> 00:41:58.816
PASSWORD OUT WE SHOULD.
00:41:58.883 --> 00:42:00.985
BE DEEMED REASONABLE SO UNTIL
00:42:01.051 --> 00:42:02.686
THESE ISSUES ARE ADDRESSED WE WE
00:42:02.753 --> 00:42:03.687
DON'T THINK THAT THE BILL SHOULD
00:42:03.754 --> 00:42:04.588
BE -- MOVED
00:42:04.655 --> 00:42:06.023
FORWARD BUT WE CAPITA
00:42:06.090 --> 00:42:07.524
CONVERSATION SO FAR WITH BOTH
00:42:07.591 --> 00:42:08.826
ASSEMBLY MEMBER IRWIN OFFICE
00:42:08.893 --> 00:42:10.027
SENATOR JACKSON'S OFFICE WE'RE
00:42:10.094 --> 00:42:11.495
CONFIDENT THAT WE CAN RESOLVE
00:42:11.562 --> 00:42:12.463
THESE ISSUES --
00:42:12.529 --> 00:42:14.231
SO FOR IT AGAIN RIGHT NOW WE
00:42:14.298 --> 00:42:15.933
DON'T HAVE A POSITION WE EXPECT
00:42:16.000 --> 00:42:17.868
OTHER WE WILL BE OPPOSE UNLESS
00:42:17.935 --> 00:42:18.435
AMENDED UNLESS IT'S A RESULT
00:42:18.502 --> 00:42:19.703
THAT.
00:42:19.770 --> 00:42:20.871
THANK YOU MATCH NEXT WITNESS
00:42:20.938 --> 00:42:21.805
PLEASE --
00:42:21.872 --> 00:42:22.606
BENJAMIN PALMER BEHALF THE
00:42:22.673 --> 00:42:23.073
ALLIANCE OF AUTOMOBILE
00:42:23.140 --> 00:42:24.942
MANUFACTURERS REMAIN CONCERNED
00:42:25.009 --> 00:42:26.210
ABOUT THE APPLICATION OF MOTOR
00:42:26.277 --> 00:42:27.578
VEHICLES GIVEN THERE'S EXISTING
00:42:27.645 --> 00:42:29.813
NHTSA GUIDANCE ON CYBERSECURITY.
00:42:29.880 --> 00:42:31.382
THE BILL DOES CONTAIN EGGS AND
00:42:31.448 --> 00:42:33.117
EXEMPTION FOR CONNECTED DIVIDE
00:42:33.183 --> 00:42:34.418
IS WHOSE DEVICES HOOFS
00:42:34.485 --> 00:42:36.220
FUNCTIONALITY IS SUBJECT TO
00:42:36.287 --> 00:42:37.721
GUIDANCE PROMULGATED BY FEDERAL
00:42:37.788 --> 00:42:40.024
AGENCY THIS APPEARS TO COVER OUR
00:42:40.090 --> 00:42:41.725
CIRCUMSTANCE BUT WE WOULD LIKE
00:42:41.792 --> 00:42:42.960
TO WORK AND AMENDMENTS WITH THE
00:42:43.027 --> 00:42:43.160
OTHER.
00:42:43.227 --> 00:42:44.662
TWO RESOLVER CONCERTS.
00:42:44.728 --> 00:42:46.497
THANK YOU ADDITIONAL WITNESSES
00:42:46.563 --> 00:42:47.731
IN OPPOSITION TO THE BILL PLEASE
00:42:47.798 --> 00:42:49.967
STEP FORWARD.
00:42:50.034 --> 00:42:51.602
SEEING NONE LET'S SUFFERING A
00:42:51.669 --> 00:42:52.503
BACK TO THE COMMUNITY QUESTIONS
00:42:52.569 --> 00:42:55.105
MISTER OBERNOLTE.
00:42:55.172 --> 00:42:55.906
TAKE MISTER CHAIRED A SENATOR
00:42:55.973 --> 00:42:57.508
I'D LIKE TO START BY THANKING
00:42:57.574 --> 00:42:58.842
YOU FOR WORKING WITH ASSEMBLY
00:42:58.909 --> 00:43:00.411
WOMAN IRWIN --
00:43:00.477 --> 00:43:02.079
IT'S ALWAYS AWKWARD FOR US WHEN
00:43:02.146 --> 00:43:03.447
WE GOT TO BILLS A DEAL WITH A
00:43:03.514 --> 00:43:05.149
SIMILAR SUBJECT MATTER THE COME
00:43:05.215 --> 00:43:06.417
THROUGH THE COMMITTEE AND OF THE
00:43:06.483 --> 00:43:07.284
TWO OF YOU COME UP WITH A VERY
00:43:07.351 --> 00:43:08.719
ELEGANT SOLUTION TO THAT PROBLEM
00:43:08.786 --> 00:43:09.987
SO THANK YOU.
00:43:10.054 --> 00:43:11.455
FOR TAKING CARE OF THAT I'D LIKE
00:43:11.522 --> 00:43:13.991
TO FOLLOW UP ON SOME OF THE
00:43:14.058 --> 00:43:15.159
QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED BY THE
00:43:15.225 --> 00:43:17.294
OPPOSITION ABOUT THE DEFINITION
00:43:17.361 --> 00:43:19.229
OF WHAT A REASONABLE SECURITY
00:43:19.296 --> 00:43:20.898
STANDARD IS.
00:43:20.965 --> 00:43:23.567
AND I AGREE THAT THE BILL LACKS
00:43:23.634 --> 00:43:25.002
A LOT OF SPECIFICITY IN THAT
00:43:25.069 --> 00:43:26.770
SENSE WHAT WHAT DO YOU MEAN WHEN
00:43:26.837 --> 00:43:28.505
YOU SAY REASONABLE.
00:43:28.572 --> 00:43:29.440
WELL --
00:43:29.506 --> 00:43:30.774
THREESOME WE SAY REASONABLE
00:43:30.841 --> 00:43:32.242
INSTEAD OF PROSCRIBING ARE
00:43:32.309 --> 00:43:33.811
PRESCRIBING IS THAT IT'S GOING
00:43:33.877 --> 00:43:35.579
TO CHANGE.
00:43:35.646 --> 00:43:38.215
AND IRONICALLY I USUALLY GET
00:43:38.282 --> 00:43:40.684
YOUR THIS IS TOO STRICT AND YOU
00:43:40.751 --> 00:43:41.852
KNOW WE CAN'T ANTICIPATE
00:43:41.919 --> 00:43:42.453
EVERYTHING SO HE MADE IT NICE
00:43:42.519 --> 00:43:45.022
AND BROUGHT TO THE INDUSTRY CAN
00:43:45.089 --> 00:43:46.190
MAKE ITS OWN.
00:43:46.256 --> 00:43:47.791
DETERMINATION AS TO WHAT IS
00:43:47.858 --> 00:43:50.427
REASONABLE AND AND WE EXPECT IT
00:43:50.494 --> 00:43:51.662
WILL BE DONE IN GOOD FAITH AND
00:43:51.729 --> 00:43:52.796
THAT YOU KNOW THEY KEEP ARGUING
00:43:52.863 --> 00:43:54.298
NOBODY KNOWS THIS WORLD BETTER
00:43:54.365 --> 00:43:55.532
THAN WE DO.
00:43:55.599 --> 00:43:56.233
AND THAT'S WHAT THIS BILL
00:43:56.300 --> 00:43:58.802
ESSENTIALLY SHOWS NO THIS WORLD
00:43:58.869 --> 00:44:00.504
BETTER THAN ANYONE THEN TAKE
00:44:00.571 --> 00:44:02.239
THOSE REASONABLE STEPS BASED
00:44:02.306 --> 00:44:03.807
UPON THE DATA AND THE
00:44:03.874 --> 00:44:07.077
INFORMATION THAT YOUR PARTICULAR --
00:44:07.144 --> 00:44:08.045
DEVICE --
00:44:08.112 --> 00:44:11.482
GENERATES SO IT IS A IT IT
00:44:11.548 --> 00:44:13.384
ALLOWS INDUSTRY TO COME UP WITH
00:44:13.450 --> 00:44:14.251
THOSE.
00:44:14.318 --> 00:44:16.120
A REASONABLE DOESN'T TAKE BEST
00:44:16.186 --> 00:44:18.088
PRACTICES IT'S HAS REASONABLE
00:44:18.155 --> 00:44:18.956
AND I'M HAPPY TO SAY BEST
00:44:19.023 --> 00:44:20.791
PRACTICES --
00:44:20.858 --> 00:44:22.259
THERE'S ALWAYS A CONCERN ABOUT
00:44:22.326 --> 00:44:24.795
LITIGATION BUT OF THIS BILL
00:44:24.862 --> 00:44:26.096
GIVES THOSE POWERS TO THE
00:44:26.163 --> 00:44:27.664
ATTORNEY GENERAL SO WE'RE NOT
00:44:27.731 --> 00:44:29.967
GOING TO SEE A WHOLE BUNCH OF
00:44:30.034 --> 00:44:31.168
YOU KNOW LAWYERS COMING IN
00:44:31.235 --> 00:44:32.569
SECOND GUESSING THAT'S AYE I
00:44:32.636 --> 00:44:34.138
KNOW THAT'S SORT OF A BUZZWORD
00:44:34.204 --> 00:44:35.806
BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS BILL
00:44:35.873 --> 00:44:37.374
DOES IT'S WHAT'S.
00:44:37.441 --> 00:44:38.842
WHAT OF THE REASONABLE
00:44:38.909 --> 00:44:40.811
APPROACHES TAKEN GIVEN THE
00:44:40.878 --> 00:44:42.546
PERIOD OF TIME AND WIN WITHIN
00:44:42.613 --> 00:44:43.647
WHICH THOSE?
00:44:43.714 --> 00:44:45.449
EFFORTS ARE MADE AS THINGS
00:44:45.516 --> 00:44:46.950
CHANGE AND AS THEY ARE DOING ON
00:44:47.017 --> 00:44:50.187
A DAILY BASIS YOU'VE GOT TO KNOW
00:44:50.254 --> 00:44:50.387
WHAT.
00:44:50.454 --> 00:44:54.792
THE AT&T ASSAULTS ARE ARE ON
00:44:54.858 --> 00:44:56.093
YOUR EQUIPMENT WHERE YOU'RE
00:44:56.160 --> 00:44:57.961
VULNERABILITIES.
00:44:58.028 --> 00:45:01.065
AND ADDRESS THEM IN THAT FASHION
00:45:01.131 --> 00:45:02.900
SO -- THERE
00:45:02.966 --> 00:45:05.069
IS FLEXIBILITY HERE SO THAT THE
00:45:05.135 --> 00:45:07.371
INDUSTRY CAN ADAPT BECAUSE WE
00:45:07.438 --> 00:45:08.605
KNOW HOW QUICKLY THINGS ARE
00:45:08.672 --> 00:45:09.540
MOVING SO RATHER THAN HAVE IT
00:45:09.606 --> 00:45:11.008
SET.
00:45:11.075 --> 00:45:13.177
SO THAT YOU FIX IT IS A POINT IN
00:45:13.243 --> 00:45:14.745
TIME.
00:45:14.812 --> 00:45:17.047
THE INDUSTRY WILL KNOW THAT AS
00:45:17.114 --> 00:45:19.917
THE CYBER ATTACKS AND AND THE
00:45:19.983 --> 00:45:22.586
THE KIND OF THE CREATIVITY OF OF
00:45:22.653 --> 00:45:24.421
THOSE WHO WANTED TO HARM TO THE
00:45:24.488 --> 00:45:25.656
SYSTEMS ARE ONE OF VIOLATE
00:45:25.722 --> 00:45:27.558
PRIVACY AND WANT TO TAKE OVER
00:45:27.624 --> 00:45:29.560
THE GRID AND WANT TO TAKE OVER --
00:45:29.626 --> 00:45:31.528
AUTOMOBILES IT'S ETRE THAT THE
00:45:31.595 --> 00:45:32.629
THAT THE COMPANIES TO
00:45:32.696 --> 00:45:35.799
MANUFACTURERS WILL ACTUALLY.
00:45:35.866 --> 00:45:38.635
BE ABLE TO ANTICIPATE AND TAKE
00:45:38.702 --> 00:45:40.704
THOSE REASONABLE STEPS WHATEVER
00:45:40.771 --> 00:45:43.240
THEY MAY BE AS THIS WHOLE CSUS
00:45:43.307 --> 00:45:45.809
SITUATION WHICH IS SO FLUID --
00:45:45.876 --> 00:45:47.211
CONTINUES TO ADVANCE LEAVING IT
00:45:47.277 --> 00:45:49.213
UP TO THE INDUSTRY. TO TAKE
00:45:49.279 --> 00:45:50.681
REASONABLE STEPS WHAT THEY
00:45:50.747 --> 00:45:52.683
DEFINE AS REASONABLE STEPS AND
00:45:52.749 --> 00:45:57.121
AGAIN WE HAVE A WE WE HAVE A
00:45:57.187 --> 00:45:59.022
IDENTIFIED THE ATTORNEY GENERAL
00:45:59.089 --> 00:46:00.891
AS SHE APPROPRIATE AGENCY I
00:46:00.958 --> 00:46:02.426
DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT THE
00:46:02.493 --> 00:46:03.560
ATTORNEY GENERAL IS GOING TO
00:46:03.627 --> 00:46:04.828
BRING LAWSUIT AFTER LAWSUIT
00:46:04.895 --> 00:46:06.864
AFTER LAWSUIT FOR SOMETHING THAT
00:46:06.930 --> 00:46:07.798
WAS TEN YEARS.
00:46:07.865 --> 00:46:09.867
OLD ARE YOU KNOW WE LOOK AT THE
00:46:09.933 --> 00:46:11.435
SITUATION AS IT EXISTS AT THE
00:46:11.502 --> 00:46:12.636
POINT IN TIME.
00:46:12.703 --> 00:46:13.837
WHEN THE --
00:46:13.904 --> 00:46:15.639
NEGATIVE BEHAVIOR TOOK PLACE
00:46:15.706 --> 00:46:17.141
THAT UNDERMINE THE INTEGRITY IN
00:46:17.207 --> 00:46:18.208
THE SECURITY IN THE PRIVACY OF
00:46:18.275 --> 00:46:20.377
THE SYSTEM [inaudible]
00:46:20.444 --> 00:46:22.446
OKAY SO.
00:46:22.513 --> 00:46:23.580
I MEAN THIS IS KIND OF THE CRUX
00:46:23.647 --> 00:46:27.518
OF MY A LACK OF COMFORT WITH.
00:46:27.584 --> 00:46:29.319
THE DEFINITION OF REASONABLE ON
00:46:29.386 --> 00:46:30.354
THE BILL BECAUSE I'VE BEEN IN
00:46:30.420 --> 00:46:32.122
THE TECH INDUSTRY FOR THIRTY
00:46:32.189 --> 00:46:32.789
YEARS NOW.
00:46:32.856 --> 00:46:34.091
AND ALTHOUGH I'M NOT AN EXPERT
00:46:34.158 --> 00:46:35.092
ON CONNECTED DEVICES I KNOW
00:46:35.159 --> 00:46:37.127
SOMETHING ABOUT THEM.
00:46:37.194 --> 00:46:37.861
I DON'T KNOW WHAT REASONABLE
00:46:37.928 --> 00:46:39.763
MEANS SO WHEN YOU SAY REASONABLE
00:46:39.830 --> 00:46:41.198
TO ME THAT I'M MAKING A
00:46:41.265 --> 00:46:42.633
CONNECTED DEVICE --
00:46:42.699 --> 00:46:44.201
I THINK ABOUT OKAY PASSWORDS
00:46:44.268 --> 00:46:45.369
GREAT YOU ADDRESS THAT WHAT
00:46:45.435 --> 00:46:46.403
ABOUT ENCRYPTION DEVICE STORE
00:46:46.470 --> 00:46:48.038
USER DATA ON THIS DEVICE IN MY
00:46:48.105 --> 00:46:49.640
REQUIRED TO ENCRYPTED.
00:46:49.706 --> 00:46:50.841
THAT'S POSSIBLE TO ENCRYPT THIS
00:46:50.908 --> 00:46:51.942
IS A REASONABLE TO ENCRYPT IT I
00:46:52.009 --> 00:46:53.777
DON'T KNOW IF I'M IF I'M
00:46:53.844 --> 00:46:54.478
REQUIRED TO ENCRYPTED WHAT
00:46:54.545 --> 00:46:55.479
STANDARD MY REQUIRED TO
00:46:55.546 --> 00:46:57.314
ENCRYPTED WITH.
00:46:57.381 --> 00:46:58.782
I IT'S NOT UNCOMMON.
00:46:58.849 --> 00:47:00.551
IF I'M ENCRYPTING USER DATA TO
00:47:00.617 --> 00:47:02.920
BE TO USE THE PASSWORD THAT'S
00:47:02.986 --> 00:47:03.954
BEEN ENTERED FOR THE DEVICE AS
00:47:04.021 --> 00:47:05.689
TO THE POPE THE KEY FOR THE
00:47:05.756 --> 00:47:07.658
PRIVATE KEY FOR ENCRYPTING.
00:47:07.724 --> 00:47:09.193
THE DATA ON THAT DEVICE AYE YOU
00:47:09.259 --> 00:47:10.460
HAPPEN TO FIND ANY.
00:47:10.527 --> 00:47:10.894
ANNE --
00:47:10.961 --> 00:47:13.197
LIMITATIONS ON HOW LONG IT HAS
00:47:13.263 --> 00:47:15.098
TO BE YOUR MONEY.
00:47:15.165 --> 00:47:16.133
DIFFERENT TYPES OF CHARACTERS IT
00:47:16.200 --> 00:47:17.935
HAS TO HAVE SO I MEAN I'M JUST
00:47:18.001 --> 00:47:18.368
I'M NOT.
00:47:18.435 --> 00:47:19.536
I'M NOT GONNA TRY TO CAUSE
00:47:19.603 --> 00:47:20.637
PROBLEMS FOR HIM JUST SAYING
00:47:20.704 --> 00:47:21.939
THAT YOU KNOW THESE ARE THE KIND
00:47:22.005 --> 00:47:23.273
OF THINGS THAT IF I'M MAKING A
00:47:23.340 --> 00:47:24.174
CONNECTED DEVICE I NEED TO KNOW
00:47:24.241 --> 00:47:26.009
THAT STUFF.
00:47:26.076 --> 00:47:28.745
AND I I HAD THE UNUSUAL.
00:47:28.812 --> 00:47:30.414
THE EXPERIENCE LAST YEAR OF
00:47:30.480 --> 00:47:31.582
READING EIGHT COURT TRANSCRIPT
00:47:31.648 --> 00:47:34.251
OF A ROOM FULL OF LAWYERS
00:47:34.318 --> 00:47:36.286
ARGUING ABOUT A BILL THAT I HAD
00:47:36.353 --> 00:47:37.955
PASSED TWO YEARS BEFORE AND THEY
00:47:38.021 --> 00:47:38.989
WERE TALKING ABOUT.
00:47:39.056 --> 00:47:40.057
WHAT WAS THE INTENT OF THE
00:47:40.123 --> 00:47:41.391
AUTHOR WILL THE AUTHOR CLEARLY
00:47:41.458 --> 00:47:42.192
INTENDED TO DO THERE'S NO WE
00:47:42.259 --> 00:47:43.026
DIDN'T?
00:47:43.093 --> 00:47:44.261
AND I'M THINKING I'M THE AUTHOR
00:47:44.328 --> 00:47:45.662
YOU COULD ASK ME IF YOU WANT TO
00:47:45.729 --> 00:47:46.863
KNOW WHAT MY INTENT WAS PUT ARE
00:47:46.930 --> 00:47:48.165
MADE IT ILLUSTRATES THE POINT
00:47:48.232 --> 00:47:49.833
THAT WHAT WE DO HERE REALLY
00:47:49.900 --> 00:47:50.801
MATTERS THE WORDS WE USE IN THE
00:47:50.867 --> 00:47:51.235
BILL.
00:47:51.301 --> 00:47:52.936
REALLY MATTER BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE
00:47:53.003 --> 00:47:53.670
GOING TO ARGUE ABOUT IT AND I
00:47:53.737 --> 00:47:55.105
WOULD JUST IF IF WE'RE GOING TO
00:47:55.172 --> 00:47:57.841
REQUIRE THIS KIND OF SECURITY.
00:47:57.908 --> 00:47:59.876
FOR CONNECTED DEVICES I THINK WE
00:47:59.943 --> 00:48:01.845
OWE IT TO EVERYBODY. TO BE VERY
00:48:01.912 --> 00:48:02.613
CLEAR ABOUT WHAT IT IS WE'RE
00:48:02.679 --> 00:48:04.047
REQUIRING CANNOT JUST LEAVE IT
00:48:04.114 --> 00:48:06.550
OPEN TO INTERPRETATION.
00:48:06.617 --> 00:48:07.551
WELL I APPRECIATE THAT THE
00:48:07.618 --> 00:48:09.319
PROBLEM IS AT IF WE FIX WHAT IT
00:48:09.386 --> 00:48:11.521
IS THAT WE EXPECT THEM TO DO IN
00:48:11.588 --> 00:48:14.157
TWO WEEKS THE OF THE THE ENTIRE
00:48:14.224 --> 00:48:15.892
TECHNOLOGY MAY HAVE SHIFTED.
00:48:15.959 --> 00:48:17.861
AND SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS
00:48:17.928 --> 00:48:21.431
GIVING THE THE INDUSTRY WHICH
00:48:21.498 --> 00:48:23.367
KNOWS AND KNOWS BEST HOW TO
00:48:23.433 --> 00:48:24.067
PROTECT.
00:48:24.134 --> 00:48:27.738
THE INFORMATION TO OUR USE THAT
00:48:27.804 --> 00:48:28.972
KNOWLEDGE TO PROTECT THE
00:48:29.039 --> 00:48:30.007
INFORMATION.
00:48:30.073 --> 00:48:31.642
THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE
00:48:31.708 --> 00:48:33.076
DOING IS SAYING LOOK FOLKS.
00:48:33.143 --> 00:48:34.211
THERE ARE CERTAIN EXPECTATIONS
00:48:34.278 --> 00:48:35.479
WE HAVE.
00:48:35.545 --> 00:48:36.580
THAT YOU'RE GOING TO PROTECT
00:48:36.647 --> 00:48:38.315
THIS INFORMATION YOU USE
00:48:38.382 --> 00:48:40.350
WHATEVER REASONABLE TECHNIQUES
00:48:40.417 --> 00:48:42.452
YOU HAVE TO DO THAT [inaudible]
00:48:42.519 --> 00:48:46.023
AND AGAIN IF A PASSWORD IS
00:48:46.089 --> 00:48:48.258
LOCATED DAY IN TWO WEEKS A
00:48:48.325 --> 00:48:49.059
PASSWORD WON'T BE THE ANSWER
00:48:49.126 --> 00:48:49.359
[inaudible]
00:48:49.426 --> 00:48:52.429
AND BUT NO ONE'S GOING TO KNOW
00:48:52.496 --> 00:48:53.497
THEY'RE BETTER THAN THE INDUSTRY
00:48:53.563 --> 00:48:54.998
SO -- ARE
00:48:55.065 --> 00:48:57.601
I'M YOU KNOW I'M HAPPY TO TALK
00:48:57.668 --> 00:49:00.337
ABOUT OF REDIFF OR OR NARROWING
00:49:00.404 --> 00:49:02.039
OR SPEED BEING MORE SPECIFIC
00:49:02.105 --> 00:49:03.507
WITH THE DEFINITIONS BUT I WOULD
00:49:03.573 --> 00:49:04.141
SUGGEST.
00:49:04.207 --> 00:49:06.810
THAT THE MANUFACTURERS KNOW NOW
00:49:06.877 --> 00:49:07.978
WHAT [inaudible]
00:49:08.045 --> 00:49:09.579
THE PUBLIC.
00:49:09.646 --> 00:49:11.081
ISN'T LIKELY TO KNOW FOR AWHILE
00:49:11.148 --> 00:49:13.050
BECAUSE THEY ARE AT THE CUTTING
00:49:13.116 --> 00:49:15.919
EDGE AND WE WANT THEM TO BE ABLE
00:49:15.986 --> 00:49:17.487
TO TAKE THE REASONABLE STEPS TO
00:49:17.554 --> 00:49:19.156
PROTECT THAT INFORMATION.
00:49:19.222 --> 00:49:21.458
AND GIVING THEM A WIDE BERTH --
00:49:21.525 --> 00:49:23.593
MAKES IT POSSIBLE TO GIVE THEM
00:49:23.660 --> 00:49:25.162
AND THEIR CREATIVE --
00:49:25.228 --> 00:49:27.831
KNOWLEDGE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT
00:49:27.898 --> 00:49:29.399
SO -- AGAIN
00:49:29.466 --> 00:49:30.967
YES YOU KNOW WE ALWAYS SAY IF
00:49:31.034 --> 00:49:31.902
YOU GET TO LAWYERS A ROOM YOU
00:49:31.968 --> 00:49:35.172
GET FOUR OPINIONS BUT AT IT YOU
00:49:35.238 --> 00:49:35.806
KNOW THAT.
00:49:35.872 --> 00:49:37.507
A AGAIN WE'RE LEAVING TO THE
00:49:37.574 --> 00:49:39.876
ATTORNEY GENERAL TO EVALUATE
00:49:39.943 --> 00:49:41.778
EXACTLY --
00:49:41.845 --> 00:49:43.080
WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO MY OUR
00:49:43.146 --> 00:49:44.548
NEW COLLEAGUE HERE I'M
00:49:44.614 --> 00:49:46.083
RECOVERING MYSELF ON THE
00:49:46.149 --> 00:49:47.617
PROFESSION SO --
00:49:47.684 --> 00:49:49.586
OF IT AS I KNOW SOME OF THE
00:49:49.653 --> 00:49:50.921
OTHER MEMBERS OF THIS COMMITTEE
00:49:50.987 --> 00:49:53.156
ARE BUT THE THE THE BOTTOM LINE
00:49:53.223 --> 00:49:54.958
IS WE WANT THE INDUSTRY TO BE IN
00:49:55.025 --> 00:49:56.993
THE FOREFRONT OF THIS NOT TO BE
00:49:57.060 --> 00:49:58.462
PRO SCRIPTED.
00:49:58.528 --> 00:50:00.464
AS TO WHAT THEY CAN DO BUT TO BE
00:50:00.530 --> 00:50:02.466
ABLE TO BE INVENTIVE AND
00:50:02.532 --> 00:50:04.034
CREATIVE IN WHAT THEY CAN DO
00:50:04.101 --> 00:50:05.602
BECAUSE THEY KNOW BETTER NINETY
00:50:05.669 --> 00:50:07.003
ONE WHAT'S DOWN THE ROAD WHAT'S
00:50:07.070 --> 00:50:08.572
COMING IF I COULD MAKE A
00:50:08.638 --> 00:50:09.506
SUGGESTION.
00:50:09.573 --> 00:50:10.607
SURE I THINK THAT ONE OF THE
00:50:10.674 --> 00:50:12.843
POINTS THE OPPOSITION RAISED WAS
00:50:12.909 --> 00:50:13.443
AN EXCELLENT ONE WHICH IS THAT
00:50:13.510 --> 00:50:14.644
IF.
00:50:14.711 --> 00:50:16.313
IF WORKING FOR A WITH WE WANT TO
00:50:16.380 --> 00:50:17.748
BE SPECIFIC.
00:50:17.814 --> 00:50:19.249
ABOUT WHAT WE MEAN BY REASONABLE
00:50:19.316 --> 00:50:20.517
THEM THEIR WAYS TO DO THAT WE
00:50:20.584 --> 00:50:21.952
PICK AN INDUSTRY STANDARD AND
00:50:22.018 --> 00:50:23.920
THAT STANDARD IS MAINTAINED BY
00:50:23.987 --> 00:50:24.187
INDUSTRY.
00:50:24.254 --> 00:50:27.023
AND AS EXPECTATIONS OF SECURITY
00:50:27.090 --> 00:50:28.825
CHANGE OVER TIME THE STANDARDS
00:50:28.892 --> 00:50:30.227
CHANGE OVER TIME YOU REFERENCE
00:50:30.293 --> 00:50:31.395
THAT STANDARD YOU SUCK A LOOK
00:50:31.461 --> 00:50:32.529
THAT'S THE BASELINE YOU HAVE TO
00:50:32.596 --> 00:50:33.697
DO AT LEAST.
00:50:33.764 --> 00:50:35.432
AS GOOD AS THAT AND THAT'S THE
00:50:35.499 --> 00:50:36.500
WAY THAT YOU SOLVE THAT PROBLEM
00:50:36.566 --> 00:50:37.934
IT'S A WAY THAT WE'VE SEEN HAVE
00:50:38.001 --> 00:50:38.502
PROBLEMS ALL THE OTHER BILLS
00:50:38.568 --> 00:50:39.102
THAT HAVE MOVED.
00:50:39.169 --> 00:50:40.470
THROUGH HERE SO --
00:50:40.537 --> 00:50:41.438
BECAUSE OF MY CONCERN ALL
00:50:41.505 --> 00:50:44.641
RESPECT TODAY BUT I WOULD
00:50:44.708 --> 00:50:45.742
ENCOURAGE YOU MOVING FORWARD AS
00:50:45.809 --> 00:50:47.177
YOU TALK WITH THE OPPOSITION
00:50:47.244 --> 00:50:47.944
THAT THAT'S A REALLY ELEGANT
00:50:48.011 --> 00:50:50.414
SOLUTION. TO TO MAKE SURE THAT
00:50:50.480 --> 00:50:51.515
WORK WERE BEING DEFINITIVE.
00:50:51.581 --> 00:50:52.883
AYE AND SPECIFIC ABOUT WERE
00:50:52.949 --> 00:50:54.818
REQUIRING WHEN WE PUT THIS KIND
00:50:54.885 --> 00:50:55.919
OF REGULATION ON INDUSTRY.
00:50:55.986 --> 00:50:57.320
WELL LET ME JUST SUGGEST YOU
00:50:57.387 --> 00:50:58.955
THAT THIS IS THE SAME STANDARD
00:50:59.022 --> 00:51:00.090
THE SAME STANDARD OF
00:51:00.157 --> 00:51:01.825
REASONABLENESS THAT HAS WORKED
00:51:01.892 --> 00:51:04.127
IN CALIFORNIA'S DATA BREACH BILL.
00:51:04.194 --> 00:51:05.762
SINCE TWO THOUSAND AND THREE SO
00:51:05.829 --> 00:51:09.032
BASICALLY WE ARE USING A SYSTEM
00:51:09.099 --> 00:51:10.600
AND A PROCESS THAT'S BEEN IN
00:51:10.667 --> 00:51:12.536
PLACE AND BEEN AFFECTED FOR THE
00:51:12.602 --> 00:51:13.537
LAST FOURTEEN YEARS.
00:51:13.603 --> 00:51:15.172
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WHEN
00:51:15.238 --> 00:51:17.541
WE PUT A REQUIREMENT OUT THERE
00:51:17.607 --> 00:51:18.175
THE PEOPLE KNOW WHAT WEIGHT IS
00:51:18.241 --> 00:51:19.342
WERE RIGHT OR THANK YOU FOR THE
00:51:19.409 --> 00:51:20.310
DIALOGUE THANK YOU AND AND I
00:51:20.377 --> 00:51:21.912
WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE CAP GIVEN
00:51:21.978 --> 00:51:23.980
THE FACT THAT THE THIS HAS BEEN
00:51:24.047 --> 00:51:25.449
IN PLACE.
00:51:25.515 --> 00:51:28.118
WITH THE OF THE DATA BREACH
00:51:28.185 --> 00:51:29.352
PROVISIONS STAT THE INDUSTRY
00:51:29.419 --> 00:51:31.188
KNOWS.
00:51:31.254 --> 00:51:32.789
A AND THAT THAT THAT THEY HAVE
00:51:32.856 --> 00:51:35.058
BEEN ENCOURAGED TO APPLY USING
00:51:35.125 --> 00:51:36.626
THAT TERMINOLOGY BUT I CERTAINLY
00:51:36.693 --> 00:51:39.062
APPRECIATE YOUR CONCERN.
00:51:39.129 --> 00:51:41.131
THANK YOU VERY MUCH OUT AND LETS
00:51:41.198 --> 00:51:42.265
GO TO MISS REYES FOLLOWED BY HIS
00:51:42.332 --> 00:51:44.201
BAKER.
00:51:44.267 --> 00:51:45.402
THANK YOU SO MUCH AT SENATOR I
00:51:45.469 --> 00:51:47.370
DO WANT TO THANK YOU FOR
00:51:47.437 --> 00:51:48.738
BRINGING THIS BILL FORWARD.
00:51:48.805 --> 00:51:51.241
AND I APPRECIATE TWO THINGS ALSO
00:51:51.308 --> 00:51:53.944
MOST ESPECIALLY ONE IS YOUR
00:51:54.010 --> 00:51:55.145
INVOLVEMENT WITH ASSEMBLY MEMBER
00:51:55.212 --> 00:51:56.413
IRWIN.
00:51:56.480 --> 00:51:57.481
IN BRINGING THIS FORWARD
00:51:57.547 --> 00:52:00.283
TOGETHER AND THE OTHER IS IN
00:52:00.350 --> 00:52:01.918
LISTENING TO THE OPPOSITION.
00:52:01.985 --> 00:52:03.220
IT'S CLEAR THAT YOU'VE HAD
00:52:03.286 --> 00:52:04.921
DIALOGUE WITH THEM THAT THEY
00:52:04.988 --> 00:52:06.223
RECOGNIZE THAT THE DIALOGUE
00:52:06.289 --> 00:52:07.657
CONTINUES.
00:52:07.724 --> 00:52:09.626
AND THAT'S ALWAYS SO IMPORTANT
00:52:09.693 --> 00:52:11.528
IN TRYING TO REACH AS AS MY
00:52:11.595 --> 00:52:13.096
COLLEAGUE FROM BIG BEAR HAS
00:52:13.163 --> 00:52:13.864
TALKED ABOUT.
00:52:13.930 --> 00:52:15.732
HAVING THOSE DISCUSSIONS TO
00:52:15.799 --> 00:52:17.400
FINALLY GET TO THE END RESULT
00:52:17.467 --> 00:52:19.803
APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR IN PUT IN
00:52:19.870 --> 00:52:20.337
ALL OF YOUR WILLINGNESS TO
00:52:20.403 --> 00:52:20.804
DISCUSS THIS.
00:52:20.871 --> 00:52:22.572
WITH OPPOSITION AS WELL AS
00:52:22.639 --> 00:52:24.374
ASSEMBLY MEMBER ONE THANK YOU
00:52:24.441 --> 00:52:25.742
FOR OFFERING THIS THANK YOU
00:52:25.809 --> 00:52:28.445
APPRECIATED PASSED BAKER.
00:52:28.512 --> 00:52:29.212
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR AND
00:52:29.279 --> 00:52:31.615
SENATOR I I SUPPORTED ARE GOOD
00:52:31.681 --> 00:52:33.917
COLLEAGUE FROM VENN TOURISTS
00:52:33.984 --> 00:52:35.519
BILL --
00:52:35.585 --> 00:52:37.220
BEFORE THEY DID RAISE SOME OF
00:52:37.287 --> 00:52:38.722
THE SAME CONCERNS AND HOPE THAT
00:52:38.788 --> 00:52:40.857
YOU WILL REALLY WILL CONTINUE TO
00:52:40.924 --> 00:52:42.759
FOCUS ON THEM MISTER OBERNOLTE
00:52:42.826 --> 00:52:44.094
HAS ARTICULATED THAT WHILE I
00:52:44.160 --> 00:52:45.428
THINK THE OPPOSITION HAS.
00:52:45.495 --> 00:52:48.265
YES OTHER REASONABLE STANDARD
00:52:48.331 --> 00:52:49.866
FULLY RECOVERED ATTORNEY AT AYE
00:52:49.933 --> 00:52:50.734
I MAY NEVER RECOVER FROM THIS
00:52:50.800 --> 00:52:51.735
YEAR SPLIT.
00:52:51.801 --> 00:52:53.603
OF THEIR REASONABLE THE STANDARD
00:52:53.670 --> 00:52:55.372
HAS ITS PROS AND CONS BECAUSE
00:52:55.438 --> 00:52:56.406
WHAT IT MEANS IS YOU DON'T GET
00:52:56.473 --> 00:52:58.108
TO LIST IT SO FACT INTENSIVE YOU
00:52:58.174 --> 00:52:59.543
DON'T GET TO ESTABLISH IT UNTIL
00:52:59.609 --> 00:53:00.510
YOU'RE IN A COURT.
00:53:00.577 --> 00:53:02.178
WHICH IS VERY EXPENSIVE AND
00:53:02.245 --> 00:53:04.214
WHILE WE WANT INDUSTRY TO BE AS
00:53:04.281 --> 00:53:06.483
YOU SAY RIGHTLY SO.
00:53:06.550 --> 00:53:08.451
APPRECIATE HEARING IT --
00:53:08.518 --> 00:53:10.253
INNOVATIVE AND CREATING ITS WEEK
00:53:10.320 --> 00:53:11.688
THIS IS EXACTLY THE TYPE OF
00:53:11.755 --> 00:53:12.522
STANDARD THAT CAN ALSO
00:53:12.589 --> 00:53:14.357
COMPLETELY IMPAIR THE ABILITY TO
00:53:14.424 --> 00:53:15.258
DO THAT BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW
00:53:15.325 --> 00:53:16.860
WHAT IS SUFFICIENT SO.
00:53:16.927 --> 00:53:19.029
I EYEING WHO'S ALSO ENCOURAGE
00:53:19.095 --> 00:53:20.864
THAT VISITING WITH A FURTHER
00:53:20.931 --> 00:53:23.300
WITH THE OPPOSITION ABOUT THAT
00:53:23.366 --> 00:53:24.167
AND THE POSSIBILITY OF A
00:53:24.234 --> 00:53:25.769
NATIONAL STANDARD YOU CAN EAT
00:53:25.835 --> 00:53:28.572
YOU CAN POINT TO IT --
00:53:28.638 --> 00:53:30.640
IF YOU SAY REASONABLE S. YOU
00:53:30.707 --> 00:53:31.875
KNOW INCLUDING I'M GOING TO TRY
00:53:31.942 --> 00:53:33.443
TO MEND YOUR BILL HERE INCLUDING
00:53:33.510 --> 00:53:36.279
NATIONAL STANDARDS YOU YOU MAY.
00:53:36.346 --> 00:53:37.314
BE GIVING GUIDANCE TO THE
00:53:37.380 --> 00:53:38.848
ATTORNEY GENERAL BEYOND WE JUST
00:53:38.915 --> 00:53:40.717
WANT YOU TO GO DO THIS AND THAT
00:53:40.784 --> 00:53:41.985
IT'S IT'S ONE POTENTIAL PLACE
00:53:42.052 --> 00:53:43.653
IT'S ALMOST LIKE A SAFE HARBOR
00:53:43.720 --> 00:53:45.255
THAT IS. ONE THAT CONTINUES TO
00:53:45.322 --> 00:53:47.557
MOVE FORWARD I I WOULD STRONGLY
00:53:47.624 --> 00:53:50.460
ENCOURAGE THAT BUT I ALSO AM
00:53:50.527 --> 00:53:52.228
HATE EXPRESSED CONCERN.
00:53:52.295 --> 00:53:53.863
IN THE PAST AND WANT TO AGAIN
00:53:53.930 --> 00:53:55.231
ABOUT THE MANUFACTURING
00:53:55.298 --> 00:53:56.766
DEFINITION.
00:53:56.833 --> 00:53:58.602
BECAUSE WE ARE IF I REMEMBER
00:53:58.668 --> 00:53:59.269
CORRECTLY --
00:53:59.336 --> 00:54:01.838
FOR READING THIS.
00:54:01.905 --> 00:54:03.607
LOOKING AT THE POSSIBILITY THAT
00:54:03.673 --> 00:54:04.674
THAT WILL ONLY APPLY TO
00:54:04.741 --> 00:54:06.610
DOMESTICALLY PRODUCED PRODUCTS
00:54:06.676 --> 00:54:07.577
AND LEAVE.
00:54:07.644 --> 00:54:09.012
THE INTERNATIONAL MARKET OUT
00:54:09.079 --> 00:54:10.246
WHICH IS NOT ONLY A LOOPHOLE
00:54:10.313 --> 00:54:11.881
THAT DISADVANTAGES ARE
00:54:11.948 --> 00:54:12.382
CALIFORNIA COMPANIES AND
00:54:12.449 --> 00:54:14.484
EMPLOYEES SO CAN YOU SPEAK TO
00:54:14.551 --> 00:54:16.119
THAT PARTICULAR SHOW ABSOLUTELY.
00:54:16.186 --> 00:54:18.321
THE DEFINITION OF MANUFACTURER
00:54:18.388 --> 00:54:21.091
AND IT IS SOFT --
00:54:21.157 --> 00:54:22.525
IN THE BILL ITSELF UNDER.
00:54:22.592 --> 00:54:26.196
OF SEVENTEEN NINETY EIGHT POINT
00:54:26.262 --> 00:54:28.264
NINETY ONE POINT O. TO SEE.
00:54:28.331 --> 00:54:30.400
MANUFACTURER MEANS THE PERSON
00:54:30.467 --> 00:54:33.436
WHO MANUFACTURERS OR CONTRACTS
00:54:33.503 --> 00:54:34.504
WITH ANOTHER PERSON TO
00:54:34.571 --> 00:54:36.172
MANUFACTURE.
00:54:36.239 --> 00:54:37.140
THAT SHOULD INCLUDE THE FOLKS
00:54:37.207 --> 00:54:39.042
FROM CHINA.
00:54:39.109 --> 00:54:40.810
BECAUSE WE THEN CONTRACT WITH
00:54:40.877 --> 00:54:42.545
ANOTHER PERSON.
00:54:42.612 --> 00:54:44.514
WHO MANUFACTURES ON THAT
00:54:44.581 --> 00:54:46.383
PERSON'S BEHALF CONNECTED
00:54:46.449 --> 00:54:48.184
DEVICES THAT ARE SOLD OR OFFERED
00:54:48.251 --> 00:54:49.519
FOR SALE IN CALIFORNIA?
00:54:49.586 --> 00:54:51.488
THAT SO I I WOULD RESPECTFULLY
00:54:51.554 --> 00:54:53.757
DISAGREE WITH THE VIEW THAT WE
00:54:53.823 --> 00:54:55.892
ARE ACCEPTING FOREIGN COMPANIES
00:54:55.959 --> 00:55:00.063
THEY A CONTRACT. TO MANUFACTURE
00:55:00.130 --> 00:55:05.335
AND THEY WOULD BE INCLUDED.
00:55:05.402 --> 00:55:06.970
AND THE LONG ARM STATUTE
00:55:07.037 --> 00:55:07.604
CALIFORNIA WOULD ALSO GET THEM
00:55:07.671 --> 00:55:08.705
ANYWAY.
00:55:08.772 --> 00:55:11.574
BUT IT DOES SPECIFICALLY SAY --
00:55:11.641 --> 00:55:13.543
CONTRACT TO MANUFACTURE SO IT
00:55:13.610 --> 00:55:14.844
WOULD INCLUDE ALL FOREIGN
00:55:14.911 --> 00:55:16.413
COMPANIES THAT ARE MANUFACTURING
00:55:16.479 --> 00:55:18.848
THESE DEVICES.
00:55:18.915 --> 00:55:20.350
BRING THEM TO THE UNITED STATES
00:55:20.417 --> 00:55:22.786
ARM OF WHETHER IT'S UNDER THERE
00:55:22.852 --> 00:55:24.387
THEIR NAME OR THE NAME OF AN
00:55:24.454 --> 00:55:26.389
AMERICAN COMPANY THEY STILL ARE
00:55:26.456 --> 00:55:28.591
INCLUDED UNDER THIS PROVISION.
00:55:28.658 --> 00:55:29.693
THANK YOU IF I MAY.
00:55:29.759 --> 00:55:30.860
THREE IS THE CHAIR IF I'M JUST
00:55:30.927 --> 00:55:32.128
CURIOUS IF THANK YOU MAY ASK
00:55:32.195 --> 00:55:33.396
THEIR OPPOSITION IS YOU'VE
00:55:33.463 --> 00:55:35.098
LOOKED AT THAT LANGUAGE IS WELL.
00:55:35.165 --> 00:55:36.299
IN ADVANCE YOU INTO TOO MUCH OF
00:55:36.366 --> 00:55:37.467
A DEBATE BUT I I'VE THIS
00:55:37.534 --> 00:55:38.802
CONCERNS ME SO I WONDER IF YOU
00:55:38.868 --> 00:55:41.137
COULD FIND OUT WHERE WHERE'S THE
00:55:41.204 --> 00:55:42.572
HOLE IN THAT FROM.
00:55:42.639 --> 00:55:44.507
SO IT WOULD BE THAT THE NEXT
00:55:44.574 --> 00:55:46.676
PART OF THAT DEFINITION WORD IT
00:55:46.743 --> 00:55:48.278
SAYS THE FOLKS THAT ARE.
00:55:48.344 --> 00:55:50.213
CREATE AKON TRACK TO PURCHASE
00:55:50.280 --> 00:55:53.349
EXISTING GOODS ARE EXPRESSLY
00:55:53.416 --> 00:55:54.584
EXCLUDED FROM THE DEFINITION
00:55:54.651 --> 00:55:56.586
MANUFACTURER SO THE LOOPHOLE
00:55:56.653 --> 00:55:57.887
THAT IT CREATES BETWEEN LIKE A
00:55:57.954 --> 00:55:59.122
COMPANY LIKE JOHN BY IN A
00:55:59.189 --> 00:56:00.490
COMPANY LIKE TREND THAT.
00:56:00.557 --> 00:56:02.559
IS THAT A CHINESE MANUFACTURED
00:56:02.625 --> 00:56:03.827
THE DOESN'T AUTHORIZE ANYTHING
00:56:03.893 --> 00:56:05.595
FOR SALE OUTSIDE OF CHINA A
00:56:05.662 --> 00:56:08.698
CREATES A BUNCH OF SAY WEBCAMS.
00:56:08.765 --> 00:56:09.866
IN CHINA --
00:56:09.933 --> 00:56:11.167
THEN A COMPANY THAT ESTABLISHES
00:56:11.234 --> 00:56:13.770
ITSELF IN CALIFORNIA BEEN FINDS
00:56:13.837 --> 00:56:16.306
THOSE DEVICES THAT EXISTS AND
00:56:16.372 --> 00:56:17.540
CREATES A CONTRACT FOR PURCHASE
00:56:17.607 --> 00:56:19.442
WAS WHICH IS EXPRESSLY EXCLUDED
00:56:19.509 --> 00:56:20.443
IN THE BILL --
00:56:20.510 --> 00:56:22.412
TO IMPORT THOSE DEVICES INTO
00:56:22.479 --> 00:56:24.214
AMERICA THEY PUT THEIR LABEL ON
00:56:24.280 --> 00:56:26.082
THE MISS TRAINING THAT THEY SELL
00:56:26.149 --> 00:56:27.450
THEM TO OUR MARKETPLACE SO.
00:56:27.517 --> 00:56:28.885
THE INTERPLAY BETWEEN THESE TWO
00:56:28.952 --> 00:56:30.019
DIFFERENT COMPANIES IS WHAT
00:56:30.086 --> 00:56:32.055
CREATES THE LOOPHOLE THANK YOU
00:56:32.122 --> 00:56:33.890
AND IF IT SINCE IT SOUNDS CENTER
00:56:33.957 --> 00:56:35.425
YOU AGREE IN THE IDEA YOU WANT
00:56:35.492 --> 00:56:36.926
MAKE SURE GETS ABSOLUTE --
00:56:36.993 --> 00:56:38.027
IF THERE'S ANY FURTHER
00:56:38.094 --> 00:56:40.196
CONVERSATIONS TO FINE TUNE THAT
00:56:40.263 --> 00:56:42.398
I HOPE YOU'RE OPEN TO THAT --
00:56:42.465 --> 00:56:45.168
BECAUSE I I I I HOPE WE CAN --
00:56:45.235 --> 00:56:46.703
THE FIRST TIME INSTEAD OF
00:56:46.770 --> 00:56:49.305
INADVERTENTLY HAVE A LOOPHOLE
00:56:49.372 --> 00:56:50.573
THAT WE KNOW.
00:56:50.640 --> 00:56:51.875
INTERNATIONAL COMPETITION WILL
00:56:51.941 --> 00:56:52.776
FIND A WAY AND WHERE
00:56:52.842 --> 00:56:54.177
DISADVANTAGED CALIFORNIANS AND
00:56:54.244 --> 00:56:55.211
RIGHT I'VE.
00:56:55.278 --> 00:56:56.646
ONE ADDITIONAL ONE AND THAT IS
00:56:56.713 --> 00:56:58.047
THAT ALSO.
00:56:58.114 --> 00:56:59.449
THE CONCEPT OF HINDSIGHT SO
00:56:59.516 --> 00:57:01.184
SOMEBODY BUYS A REFRIGERATOR
00:57:01.251 --> 00:57:03.019
YEAH I'M I GOT A FIFTEEN YEAR
00:57:03.086 --> 00:57:04.220
OLD REFRIGERATOR IN MY HOUSE.
00:57:04.287 --> 00:57:06.890
AND WHAT CONTINUING DUTY THERE
00:57:06.956 --> 00:57:09.926
IS AFTER I'VE PURCHASED.
00:57:09.993 --> 00:57:11.961
A SOMETHING WITH THE TECHNOLOGY
00:57:12.028 --> 00:57:14.297
AND WITH OF WHAT WAS AT THE TIME
00:57:14.364 --> 00:57:15.598
WHAT CONTINUING DUTY MIGHT
00:57:15.665 --> 00:57:18.067
REMAINS FOR THE MANUFACTURERS
00:57:18.134 --> 00:57:18.368
[inaudible]
00:57:18.434 --> 00:57:20.370
LIABILITY.
00:57:20.436 --> 00:57:22.338
WELL THE WAY THIS BILL IS OF
00:57:22.405 --> 00:57:23.406
WRITTEN.
00:57:23.473 --> 00:57:25.108
THE THE QUESTION THE
00:57:25.175 --> 00:57:27.343
MANUFACTURER'S RESPONSIBILITY.
00:57:27.410 --> 00:57:29.813
ARM IN TERMS OF SECURITY IS AT
00:57:29.879 --> 00:57:32.115
THE POINT THAT THE THAT THE
00:57:32.182 --> 00:57:34.117
DEVICE WAS PURCHASED.
00:57:34.184 --> 00:57:37.187
WE'RE NOT REQUIRING THAT THEY
00:57:37.253 --> 00:57:38.955
ANTICIPATE FIFTEEN YEARS DOWN
00:57:39.022 --> 00:57:40.089
THE ROAD.
00:57:40.156 --> 00:57:42.058
ABOUT WHAT'S SECURING WHAT ISN'T
00:57:42.125 --> 00:57:43.459
SECURE --
00:57:43.526 --> 00:57:45.195
FIFTEEN YEARS LATER.
00:57:45.261 --> 00:57:49.532
SO IT'S JUST IT NOW IF.
00:57:49.599 --> 00:57:50.233
TRYING TO THINK OF A
00:57:50.300 --> 00:57:52.135
REFRIGERATOR FIFTEEN YEARS AGO I
00:57:52.202 --> 00:57:53.236
DON'T THINK IT'S THEY WERE VERY
00:57:53.303 --> 00:57:54.537
AS YOU ARE THEY JUST KEPT THINGS
00:57:54.604 --> 00:57:58.508
CLEARLY HANG ON YEAH YEAH YEAH --
00:57:58.575 --> 00:58:00.577
SO YEAH I MEAN THEY DID THE JOB
00:58:00.643 --> 00:58:01.177
THAT I THINK WE EXPECTED WHICH
00:58:01.244 --> 00:58:03.580
WAS TO KEEP THE BEER COLD AND
00:58:03.646 --> 00:58:06.249
THE ICE FROZEN --
00:58:06.316 --> 00:58:07.817
IT TODAY OF COURSE THEY DO A LOT
00:58:07.884 --> 00:58:08.885
OF OTHER THINGS AND SO IF YOU
00:58:08.952 --> 00:58:10.854
WERE TO BUY ONE TODAY THE NEXT
00:58:10.920 --> 00:58:11.921
WHEN YOU BUY TODAY UNDER THIS
00:58:11.988 --> 00:58:12.422
BILL.
00:58:12.488 --> 00:58:13.590
IT WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THE
00:58:13.656 --> 00:58:14.824
SECURITY PROTECTIONS THAT ARE
00:58:14.891 --> 00:58:17.493
AVAILABLE TODAY I THAT ARE KNOWN
00:58:17.560 --> 00:58:18.661
TO THE MANUFACTURER.
00:58:18.728 --> 00:58:20.263
IN AND YOU KNOW THAT THING THAT
00:58:20.330 --> 00:58:21.965
THAT THEY KNOW ARE ARE POTENTIAL
00:58:22.031 --> 00:58:24.133
PROBLEMS TODAY APPRECIATE THAT
00:58:24.200 --> 00:58:26.236
THANK YOU VERY MUCH [inaudible]
00:58:26.302 --> 00:58:28.004
ANY.
00:58:28.071 --> 00:58:29.772
MR WENT GO AHEAD PRESS THANK YOU
00:58:29.839 --> 00:58:32.842
KNOW AND I APPRECIATE A OF
00:58:32.909 --> 00:58:34.444
WORKING WITH YOU ON THIS BILL
00:58:34.510 --> 00:58:35.912
AND ARE --
00:58:35.979 --> 00:58:37.380
THAT WE'VE GONE THROUGH A LOT OF
00:58:37.447 --> 00:58:38.882
THESE ISSUES I I'M SORRY THAT I
00:58:38.948 --> 00:58:39.916
WALKED IN A LITTLE LATE SO I
00:58:39.983 --> 00:58:41.251
DON'T REMEMBER I DON'T KNOW IF
00:58:41.317 --> 00:58:42.619
ALL THIS WAS MENTIONED BUT AS
00:58:42.685 --> 00:58:46.890
FAR AS AND THERE IS IN THE BILL
00:58:46.956 --> 00:58:49.192
IF THERE ARE FEDERAL STANDARDS
00:58:49.259 --> 00:58:49.859
SO.
00:58:49.926 --> 00:58:53.263
YOU HEARD I I HOPE THAT DIVIDE.
00:58:53.329 --> 00:58:54.197
MANUFACTURERS IF THERE ARE
00:58:54.264 --> 00:58:55.431
FEDERAL STANDARDS YOU ARE
00:58:55.498 --> 00:58:57.000
EXEMPTED FROM THIS BILL.
00:58:57.066 --> 00:58:58.401
A THE SECOND THING IS WHEN WE
00:58:58.468 --> 00:58:59.402
HEARD THIS IN PRIVACY THE
00:58:59.469 --> 00:59:01.571
MANUFACTURERS DID EXPLAIN.
00:59:01.638 --> 00:59:03.506
OR EXPRESS IT AND CONCERNED
00:59:03.573 --> 00:59:05.975
ABOUT TO ADD THIS DISADVANTAGING
00:59:06.042 --> 00:59:07.510
CALIFORNIA COMPANIES WE DID
00:59:07.577 --> 00:59:09.145
CHANGE THE LANGUAGE AFTER
00:59:09.212 --> 00:59:11.447
PRIVACY --
00:59:11.514 --> 00:59:12.982
TO TO REALLY ADDRESS THAT ISSUE
00:59:13.049 --> 00:59:14.851
AND IF IT'S STILL NOT CLEAR WILL
00:59:14.918 --> 00:59:16.252
LOOK AT IT SOME MORE BUT
00:59:16.319 --> 00:59:17.253
CERTAINLY THAT WAS THAT WAS
00:59:17.320 --> 00:59:18.888
NEVER THE INTENTION TO
00:59:18.955 --> 00:59:20.256
DISADVANTAGE CALIFORNIA
00:59:20.323 --> 00:59:22.792
MANUFACTURERS AND AND I WILL
00:59:22.859 --> 00:59:24.527
REITERATE AGAIN --
00:59:24.594 --> 00:59:26.329
LIKE I DID AND PRIVACY AND IN
00:59:26.396 --> 00:59:27.797
FRONT OF YOUR COMMITTEE THAT WE
00:59:27.864 --> 00:59:29.365
HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS BILL
00:59:29.432 --> 00:59:30.500
SINCE.
00:59:30.566 --> 00:59:33.036
LAST FALL AND IT HAS GONE
00:59:33.102 --> 00:59:36.272
THROUGH MULTIPLE MULTIPLE --
00:59:36.339 --> 00:59:38.341
AND I HAVE VERSIONS TO MAKE SURE
00:59:38.408 --> 00:59:40.076
THAT WE ADDRESS THE CONCERNS OF
00:59:40.143 --> 00:59:40.944
GROUPS LIKE THE INTERNET
00:59:41.010 --> 00:59:43.513
ASSOCIATION CAL CHAMBER --
00:59:43.579 --> 00:59:46.482
TECHNET AND MOST OF MOST OF
00:59:46.549 --> 00:59:48.551
THOSE ORGANIZATIONS ARE ALL OF
00:59:48.618 --> 00:59:49.752
THEM EXCEPT --
00:59:49.819 --> 00:59:51.321
FOR THE MANUFACTURERS ARE EITHER
00:59:51.387 --> 00:59:53.389
NEUTRAL OR IN SUPPORT OF THE
00:59:53.456 --> 00:59:55.692
BILL SO AND WE HAVE CERTAINLY
00:59:55.758 --> 00:59:57.527
TRY TO MAKE THIS A VERY VERY
00:59:57.593 --> 01:00:00.163
COLLABORATIVE EFFORT AND AGAIN --
01:00:00.229 --> 01:00:02.298
IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT IT IN
01:00:02.365 --> 01:00:03.599
MY OPINION THAT WE PASSED
01:00:03.666 --> 01:00:05.401
SOMETHING THAT STARTS TO AT
01:00:05.468 --> 01:00:06.669
LEAST REGULATE SOME OF THESE AYE
01:00:06.736 --> 01:00:09.672
OTA DEVICES BECAUSE WE HAVE SEEN --
01:00:09.739 --> 01:00:12.275
WITHOUT REGULATIONS THAT WE HAVE.
01:00:12.342 --> 01:00:14.610
YOU KNOW AN INCREDIBLE PROBLEMS
01:00:14.677 --> 01:00:16.412
AND TO WHOM WE CAN LOOK AT
01:00:16.479 --> 01:00:18.648
THINGS LIKE THAT THE BIG --
01:00:18.715 --> 01:00:20.717
TAKEOVER OF DYING WARY YOU'RE
01:00:20.783 --> 01:00:21.617
BRINGING DOWN PART OF THE
01:00:21.684 --> 01:00:23.286
INTERNET BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE
01:00:23.353 --> 01:00:26.489
APPROPRIATE SO I'M SECURITY ON
01:00:26.556 --> 01:00:27.423
THESE AYE OF TWO DEVICES I THINK
01:00:27.490 --> 01:00:29.459
THIS IS NOT A HUGE STEP THIS IS
01:00:29.525 --> 01:00:30.560
A SMALL STEP IN THE RIGHT
01:00:30.626 --> 01:00:32.195
DIRECTION SO I'M.
01:00:32.261 --> 01:00:32.829
DEATHLY IN SUPPORT OF AND WHAT
01:00:32.895 --> 01:00:35.631
THE SENATE DOING AND I THINK
01:00:35.698 --> 01:00:36.399
IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE CONTINUE
01:00:36.466 --> 01:00:38.701
TO WORK WITH --
01:00:38.768 --> 01:00:40.803
THE LAST FEW HOLD OUTS BUT AGAIN
01:00:40.870 --> 01:00:42.238
IF THEY WANT A FEDERAL STANDARD
01:00:42.305 --> 01:00:44.974
THEY WOULD BE EXEMPTED.
01:00:45.041 --> 01:00:45.508
THANK YOU VERY MUCH MISTER
01:00:45.575 --> 01:00:47.577
GABRIEL.
01:00:47.643 --> 01:00:48.511
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR I JUST
01:00:48.578 --> 01:00:49.746
WANTED TO COMMEND THE SENATOR
01:00:49.812 --> 01:00:50.847
AND ALSO MY COLLEAGUE FROM
01:00:50.913 --> 01:00:52.482
THOUSAND OAKS I THINK THIS IS A
01:00:52.548 --> 01:00:53.383
REALLY IMPORTANT ISSUE I'M GLAD
01:00:53.449 --> 01:00:54.550
TO SEE THIS --
01:00:54.617 --> 01:00:55.485
THIS LEGISLATION MOVING FORWARD
01:00:55.551 --> 01:00:57.954
I DID JUST. FOR MY OUR COLLEAGUE
01:00:58.021 --> 01:00:59.622
FROM BIG BEAR I THINK --
01:00:59.689 --> 01:01:00.523
YA I CERTAINLY HEAR WHAT YOU'RE
01:01:00.590 --> 01:01:01.924
SAYING ABOUT THE THE
01:01:01.991 --> 01:01:02.959
REASONABLENESS STANDARD I THINK
01:01:03.026 --> 01:01:04.427
THAT -- YOU
01:01:04.494 --> 01:01:06.029
KNOW WHEN YOU HAVE SOMETHING
01:01:06.095 --> 01:01:06.996
LIKE THIS THAT A THAT A
01:01:07.063 --> 01:01:08.097
MANUFACTURER IS GOING TO BE IN A
01:01:08.164 --> 01:01:08.865
POSITION WHERE THEY'RE GONNA
01:01:08.931 --> 01:01:10.299
HAVE THE RIGHT INCENTIVES TO DO
01:01:10.366 --> 01:01:11.367
THE RIGHT THING THEY'RE GONNA
01:01:11.434 --> 01:01:12.835
KNOW THEIR TECHNOLOGY.
01:01:12.902 --> 01:01:13.836
BETTER THAN ANYBODY ELSE THEY'RE
01:01:13.903 --> 01:01:15.304
GONNA SASS LITIGATION RISK
01:01:15.371 --> 01:01:16.472
REPUTATIONAL RISK LOOK AT WHAT
01:01:16.539 --> 01:01:17.673
OTHER FOLKS INDUSTRIES ARE DOING
01:01:17.740 --> 01:01:19.008
AND THEN MAKE A REASONED
01:01:19.075 --> 01:01:20.109
DETERMINATION.
01:01:20.176 --> 01:01:21.310
AND I SUSPECT ALSO THAT THERE
01:01:21.377 --> 01:01:22.378
MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR
01:01:22.445 --> 01:01:23.379
DIALOGUE WITH THE ATTORNEY
01:01:23.446 --> 01:01:24.380
GENERAL OR ANY OTHER ENFORCEMENT
01:01:24.447 --> 01:01:26.449
AUTHORITY IF THERE ARE CONCERNS
01:01:26.516 --> 01:01:27.283
ABOUT.
01:01:27.350 --> 01:01:27.984
THE STANDARD THAT THEY'VE
01:01:28.051 --> 01:01:29.285
EMPLOYED BUT BUT AT THE END OF
01:01:29.352 --> 01:01:30.286
THE DAY --
01:01:30.353 --> 01:01:31.254
IF WE FIND OUT THAT THAT
01:01:31.320 --> 01:01:33.256
STANDARD IS UNWORKABLE FOR SOME
01:01:33.322 --> 01:01:34.657
REASON OR IS CAUSING A LOT OF
01:01:34.724 --> 01:01:35.691
CHALLENGES ARE STIFLING
01:01:35.758 --> 01:01:36.726
INNOVATION THERE IS AN
01:01:36.793 --> 01:01:37.894
OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO COME BACK
01:01:37.960 --> 01:01:39.228
AND CORRECT THIS LEGISLATION IT
01:01:39.295 --> 01:01:40.129
SOUNDS LIKE.
01:01:40.196 --> 01:01:42.465
THE THE AUTHOR AND AND AND MY
01:01:42.532 --> 01:01:44.300
COLLEAGUE FROM ON THOUSAND OAKS
01:01:44.367 --> 01:01:45.568
HAVE BEEN VERY THOUGHTFUL ABOUT
01:01:45.635 --> 01:01:46.469
THEIR APPROACH HERE THAT THEY'VE
01:01:46.536 --> 01:01:48.037
TALKED WITH FOLKS IN INDUSTRY SO.
01:01:48.104 --> 01:01:49.372
IT SEEMS TO ME TO MAKE SENSE TO
01:01:49.439 --> 01:01:51.274
MOVE FORWARD TO CHECK TO MAKE
01:01:51.340 --> 01:01:52.475
PROGRESS IF THERE ARE LITTLE
01:01:52.542 --> 01:01:54.043
TWEAKS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE WE
01:01:54.110 --> 01:01:56.112
CAN ALWAYS COME BACK AND DO THAT.
01:01:56.179 --> 01:01:56.979
THANK YOU VERY MUCH IF THERE ARE
01:01:57.046 --> 01:01:59.182
NO FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS
01:01:59.248 --> 01:02:00.616
I WANT TO THANK THE SENATOR FOR
01:02:00.683 --> 01:02:01.851
BRINGING THIS.
01:02:01.918 --> 01:02:03.419
LEGISLATION FORWARD I REMEMBER
01:02:03.486 --> 01:02:05.388
JUST A FEW YEARS AGO MY SELECT
01:02:05.455 --> 01:02:06.722
COMMITTEE HAD <c.green> --</c>
01:02:06.789 --> 01:02:10.259
WORKSHOP ON IOTV INTO --
01:02:10.326 --> 01:02:11.928
AT THE UC BERKELEY ONE OF THE
01:02:11.994 --> 01:02:13.262
ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT THAT KEPT
01:02:13.329 --> 01:02:14.931
COMING UP WAS.
01:02:14.997 --> 01:02:17.433
THE OF THE THEORY OF OUR PRIVACY
01:02:17.500 --> 01:02:19.969
AND SECURITY BY DESIGN AND ON
01:02:20.036 --> 01:02:21.270
DODD IS THE CONCEPT THOUGH
01:02:21.337 --> 01:02:24.107
WHEREBY ON THESE PRIVACY AS WELL
01:02:24.173 --> 01:02:26.042
AS SECURITY ISSUES WERE CONSIDER
01:02:26.109 --> 01:02:27.610
AT THE GET GO FROM THE DESIGN
01:02:27.677 --> 01:02:28.244
PHASE.
01:02:28.311 --> 01:02:30.213
AND OTHER BUT THIS BILL AS WELL
01:02:30.279 --> 01:02:31.814
AS A NINETEEN OH SIX ARE YOU
01:02:31.881 --> 01:02:34.050
KNOW REALLY HAVE THAT CONCEPT IN
01:02:34.117 --> 01:02:35.418
MIND AND I THINK GO WHEN WE
01:02:35.485 --> 01:02:36.853
PASSED THE BILL I THINK WE'LL.
01:02:36.919 --> 01:02:39.021
HAVE LA TREMENDOUS IMPACT ON THE
01:02:39.088 --> 01:02:41.491
ON THE ON THE UC DESIGN PHASE ON
01:02:41.557 --> 01:02:43.593
ON MANY OF THESE DEVICES SO I I
01:02:43.659 --> 01:02:45.728
I I YOU KNOW TREMENDOUSLY I WANT
01:02:45.795 --> 01:02:47.530
TO THANK YOU AND I MISS IRWIN.
01:02:47.597 --> 01:02:49.098
FOR A WORKING ON THIS ON THIS SO
01:02:49.165 --> 01:02:50.533
LEGISLATION AS WELL AS A
01:02:50.600 --> 01:02:52.735
RECOGNIZE RECOGNIZING THE
01:02:52.802 --> 01:02:54.704
POTENTIAL CYBER THREATS UP
01:02:54.770 --> 01:02:56.005
OPPOSED BY THESE --
01:02:56.072 --> 01:02:58.107
DEVICES AND ALSO ONE OF COMMAND
01:02:58.174 --> 01:02:59.976
TO BOTH OF YOU ARE ON A
01:03:00.042 --> 01:03:01.811
RECONCILING YOUR LANGUAGES AS
01:03:01.878 --> 01:03:02.645
WELL AS WORKING WITH
01:03:02.712 --> 01:03:03.946
STAKEHOLDERS I KNOW IT'S BEEN
01:03:04.013 --> 01:03:05.414
ARE YOU DON'T HAVE A LONG
01:03:05.481 --> 01:03:07.450
PROCESS SO I WANT TO THANK YOU.
01:03:07.517 --> 01:03:09.352
AND THEM SO WITH THAT I WANT TO
01:03:09.418 --> 01:03:11.754
ASK YOU TO CLOSE OUR AND IN OUR
01:03:11.821 --> 01:03:15.458
LAST -- FOR
01:03:15.525 --> 01:03:16.859
A MOTION TO MOVE YOUR BILL.
01:03:16.926 --> 01:03:17.994
FOR YES AND I WANNA <c.green> THANK</c>
01:03:18.060 --> 01:03:19.929
ALL MEMBERS WHO GOOD DISCUSSION --
01:03:19.996 --> 01:03:21.297
I THINK YOU KNOW WHAT THE GOAL
01:03:21.364 --> 01:03:23.266
IS HERE NO ONE'S TRYING TO DO A
01:03:23.332 --> 01:03:23.499
GOTCHA.
01:03:23.566 --> 01:03:24.800
WITH.
01:03:24.867 --> 01:03:26.169
IT'S NEED THEIR PRIVACY
01:03:26.235 --> 01:03:27.637
PROTECTIONS A AGAINST THINGS
01:03:27.703 --> 01:03:29.505
LIKE --
01:03:29.572 --> 01:03:32.074
HACKING THAT WE'VE HAD NOT ARE
01:03:32.141 --> 01:03:33.643
NINE ELEVEN SYSTEMS CONSTANTLY
01:03:33.709 --> 01:03:34.610
BEING HACKED PIECE OF THE
01:03:34.677 --> 01:03:36.212
SYSTEMS THAT WE AS THE PUBLIC
01:03:36.279 --> 01:03:38.614
RELY UPON. FOR FOR SAFETY TO GET
01:03:38.681 --> 01:03:40.082
IMMEDIATE RESPONSES IN
01:03:40.149 --> 01:03:41.617
INFREQUENTLY LIFE THREATENING IN
01:03:41.684 --> 01:03:43.252
DANGEROUS SITUATIONS.
01:03:43.319 --> 01:03:44.687
THEY THERE'S BEEN HACKING OF OUR
01:03:44.754 --> 01:03:46.923
AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLS A CRITICAL
01:03:46.989 --> 01:03:48.558
INFRASTRUCTURE LIKE OR NAT A
01:03:48.624 --> 01:03:50.626
NATURAL GAS PIPELINE SYSTEMS
01:03:50.693 --> 01:03:52.628
THESE HAVE ALL BEEN HACKED.
01:03:52.695 --> 01:03:54.163
YOU KNOW THEIR PEOPLE --
01:03:54.230 --> 01:03:56.132
PAUL ALL OVER THE WORLD WHO.
01:03:56.199 --> 01:03:57.433
WISH TO DO US HARM AND WHO HAVE
01:03:57.500 --> 01:04:00.436
NOTHING THEIR TASK THEY'RE PAID
01:04:00.503 --> 01:04:02.538
BY THEIR GOVERNMENTS OR THEIR
01:04:02.605 --> 01:04:04.440
THESE OF THE THUGS WHO IF YOU
01:04:04.507 --> 01:04:06.676
WILL THESE GANG CENTER OUT THERE.
01:04:06.742 --> 01:04:09.178
ATTACKING ARE VERY VULNERABLE --
01:04:09.245 --> 01:04:12.148
SYSTEMS AND THAT THE GOAL HERE
01:04:12.215 --> 01:04:13.516
IS TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC THE
01:04:13.583 --> 01:04:16.152
GOAL HERE IS TO REAFFIRM THE
01:04:16.219 --> 01:04:18.120
RIGHT THE THE EXPECTATION OF
01:04:18.187 --> 01:04:19.422
PRIVACY.
01:04:19.488 --> 01:04:20.656
AS YOU SAY STARTING IN THE
01:04:20.723 --> 01:04:22.792
DESIGN CONCEPT YOU KNOW THAT
01:04:22.858 --> 01:04:24.694
THAT THE CREATIVITY OF THE HIT
01:04:24.760 --> 01:04:26.028
AND CAN THE HUMAN MIND IS REALLY
01:04:26.095 --> 01:04:28.064
UNLIMITED BOTH FOR GOOD AND FOR
01:04:28.130 --> 01:04:28.664
EVIL.
01:04:28.731 --> 01:04:30.566
AND SO THE GOAL HERE IS TO MAKE
01:04:30.633 --> 01:04:33.502
SURE THAT WE AS POLICY MAKERS
01:04:33.569 --> 01:04:35.238
ARE PROTECTING THE PUBLIC AND
01:04:35.304 --> 01:04:37.006
ARE ALSO WORKING WITH THE
01:04:37.073 --> 01:04:38.975
VARIOUS COMPANIES WHO HAVE THAT.
01:04:39.041 --> 01:04:41.677
A AUGUST RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE
01:04:41.744 --> 01:04:43.179
SURE THAT --
01:04:43.246 --> 01:04:45.481
THEY ARE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT THESE
01:04:45.548 --> 01:04:48.084
GOALS AND DO IT IN A WAY THAT IS
01:04:48.150 --> 01:04:49.552
BENEFICIAL TO EVERYONE.
01:04:49.619 --> 01:04:51.420
US SO I I WAS STRUCK BY THE
01:04:51.487 --> 01:04:53.022
NOTION THAT COMPANIES WILL
01:04:53.089 --> 01:04:55.291
EVALUATE THE TECHNOLOGY OF THE
01:04:55.358 --> 01:04:56.692
REPUTATIONAL AND LITIGATION
01:04:56.759 --> 01:04:59.428
RISKS THIS IS SORT OF THIS THIS
01:04:59.495 --> 01:05:01.230
LEGISLATION THIS EFFORT.
01:05:01.297 --> 01:05:02.598
IS TO PUT EVERYBODY IN A
01:05:02.665 --> 01:05:05.668
POSITIVE POSITION SO THAT THEY
01:05:05.735 --> 01:05:08.504
THEIR OUR PRIVACY RIGHTS.
01:05:08.571 --> 01:05:10.940
ARE BEING PROTECTED THAT THE
01:05:11.007 --> 01:05:13.476
MANUFACTURERS ARE IN THE
01:05:13.542 --> 01:05:14.543
FOREFRONT TO NAFTA WHICH
01:05:14.610 --> 01:05:15.911
REPUTATION WE I THINK IT'S AN
01:05:15.978 --> 01:05:17.079
ADVANTAGE WHEN.
01:05:17.146 --> 01:05:19.115
WHEN WORSE ALL AFRAID 90% THE
01:05:19.181 --> 01:05:21.550
PUBLIC IS OF AFRAID OF THE
01:05:21.617 --> 01:05:23.419
TECHNOLOGY AND THE POTENTIAL
01:05:23.486 --> 01:05:24.754
EXPOSURE ASSOCIATED WITH THESE
01:05:24.820 --> 01:05:25.655
PRODUCTS?
01:05:25.721 --> 01:05:27.189
IT'S IN EVERYBODY'S BEST
01:05:27.256 --> 01:05:28.924
INTEREST UP TO PASS LEGISLATION
01:05:28.991 --> 01:05:30.826
LIKE THIS I WILL CONTINUE TO
01:05:30.893 --> 01:05:33.062
WORK WITH ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS
01:05:33.129 --> 01:05:35.097
MY COLLEAGUE FROM THOUSAND OAKS --
01:05:35.164 --> 01:05:36.399
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS I
01:05:36.465 --> 01:05:37.600
THINK CRITICALLY IMPORTANT
01:05:37.667 --> 01:05:39.402
MOVING FORWARD IN A WORLD THAT
01:05:39.468 --> 01:05:41.604
WE YET DO NOT KNOW.
01:05:41.671 --> 01:05:43.239
AND WITH THAT I WOULD ASK FOR
01:05:43.306 --> 01:05:45.007
YOUR AYE VOTE FAKE.
01:05:45.074 --> 01:05:46.575
BILLS AND MOVED TO HAVE A SECOND.
01:05:46.642 --> 01:05:49.912
OF THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO PASS
01:05:49.979 --> 01:05:52.181
TO SENATE APPROPRIATIONS.
01:05:52.248 --> 01:05:54.383
AS AMENDED DOUBTS TOO MADAM
01:05:54.450 --> 01:05:55.618
SECRETARY PLEASE CALL RAIL
01:05:55.685 --> 01:05:57.053
MOTIONS TO PASS AS AMENDED TO
01:05:57.119 --> 01:05:58.621
ASSEMBLY APPROPRIATIONS CHAO
01:05:58.688 --> 01:06:01.524
HIGH CHAO AYE KILEY.
01:06:01.590 --> 01:06:02.825
KILEY NOW BAKER.
01:06:02.892 --> 01:06:04.293
BAKER AYE BERMAN [inaudible]
01:06:04.360 --> 01:06:06.395
CALDERON.
01:06:06.462 --> 01:06:07.997
CALDERON AYE GABRIEL.
01:06:08.064 --> 01:06:09.465
GABRIEL I IRWIN.
01:06:09.532 --> 01:06:11.500
IRWIN AYE MULLIN.
01:06:11.567 --> 01:06:14.170
OBERNOLTE OBERNOLTE NO RADIUS.
01:06:14.236 --> 01:06:18.174
RADIUS I YOUR BILL IS OUT SIX TO
01:06:18.240 --> 01:06:19.342
TWO THANKFULLY TO LOWER MEMBERS.
01:06:19.408 --> 01:06:23.346
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:06:23.412 --> 01:06:26.515
THAT BRINGS SAYS TO S. B. ELEVEN
01:06:26.582 --> 01:06:34.357
TWENTY ONE SENATOR DODD WELCOME.
01:06:34.423 --> 01:06:35.758
GOOD MORNING GOOD MORNING PLUGS
01:06:35.825 --> 01:06:38.527
AND SHARE MEMBERS LAST WEEK AB
01:06:38.594 --> 01:06:39.128
THREE SEVENTY FIVE WAS SIGNED
01:06:39.195 --> 01:06:40.796
INTO LAW.
01:06:40.863 --> 01:06:42.398
THE LANDMARK THIS LANDMARK LAW
01:06:42.465 --> 01:06:44.367
AND PROVIDES THE COUNTRY'S
01:06:44.433 --> 01:06:46.836
TOUGHEST PRIVACY PROTECTIONS.
01:06:46.902 --> 01:06:48.437
A PROUD CO AUTHOR OF THAT
01:06:48.504 --> 01:06:50.106
MEASURE WITH ASSEMBLY MEMBER
01:06:50.172 --> 01:06:51.040
CHAO.
01:06:51.107 --> 01:06:52.708
WHICH INCLUDED MANY PROVISIONS
01:06:52.775 --> 01:06:55.611
FROM MY ORIGINAL S. B..
01:06:55.678 --> 01:06:56.912
ELEVEN TWENTY ONE BECAUSE AB
01:06:56.979 --> 01:06:57.480
THREE SEVENTY FIVE A SUCH A
01:06:57.546 --> 01:06:59.014
COMPREHENSIVE INTERNET PRIVACY
01:06:59.081 --> 01:07:00.649
AND DATA BREACH PROTECTION LAW
01:07:00.716 --> 01:07:01.884
THAT WAS PASSED IN A VERY SHORT
01:07:01.951 --> 01:07:02.885
DEADLINE.
01:07:02.952 --> 01:07:04.487
THEIR TECHNICAL FIXES THAT NEED
01:07:04.553 --> 01:07:05.321
TO BE MADE.
01:07:05.388 --> 01:07:07.056
S. B. ELEVEN TWENTY ONE WILL BE
01:07:07.123 --> 01:07:09.425
AMENDED. TO BE THE CLEAN UP BILL
01:07:09.492 --> 01:07:10.459
IT'S AS UP --
01:07:10.526 --> 01:07:11.560
TO AB THREE SEVENTY FIVE THE
01:07:11.627 --> 01:07:14.330
ANALYSIS.
01:07:14.397 --> 01:07:15.798
MY OFFICE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK
01:07:15.865 --> 01:07:16.866
WITH STAKEHOLDERS OVER THE
01:07:16.932 --> 01:07:19.001
SUMMER RECESS IN IN AUGUST TO
01:07:19.068 --> 01:07:20.569
CORRECT ANY FURTHER.
01:07:20.636 --> 01:07:22.605
TECHNICL FIXES THAT NEED TO BE
01:07:22.671 --> 01:07:23.939
MADE RESPECTFULLY ASK BRAD.
01:07:24.006 --> 01:07:24.440
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR
01:07:24.507 --> 01:07:27.443
SWEETNESS PLEASE.
01:07:27.510 --> 01:07:28.744
ADDITIONAL WITNESSES SAW
01:07:28.811 --> 01:07:36.886
SUPPORTERS PLEASE COME FORWARD.
01:07:36.952 --> 01:07:39.388
GOOD MORNING MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS
01:07:39.455 --> 01:07:41.724
GOOD MORNING SENATOR DIED.
01:07:41.791 --> 01:07:42.758
I'M HERE TODAY SNIFF THE KORAN
01:07:42.825 --> 01:07:44.193
ON BEHALF OF THREE OF MY CLIENTS
01:07:44.260 --> 01:07:45.294
PRIVACY RIGHTS CLEARINGHOUSE
01:07:45.361 --> 01:07:46.962
COMMON SENSE MEDIA AND THE
01:07:47.029 --> 01:07:48.230
ELECTRONIC FRONTIER FOUNDATION.
01:07:48.297 --> 01:07:49.865
COMMON IN A BIT OF A A TWEENER
01:07:49.932 --> 01:07:51.700
STATUS AND CERTAINLY.
01:07:51.767 --> 01:07:53.369
NOTING THAT WE DO IN FACT NEED A
01:07:53.436 --> 01:07:54.770
TECHNICAL CLEAN UP BILL TO TO
01:07:54.837 --> 01:07:56.105
MOVE FORWARD AND AND THE POLICY
01:07:56.172 --> 01:07:57.473
DEADLINES --
01:07:57.540 --> 01:07:59.141
AT APPRECIATE STOP TAKING AND
01:07:59.208 --> 01:08:00.576
MESSAGES AND CALLS FOR ME LATE
01:08:00.643 --> 01:08:01.710
LAST NIGHT TO TALK FOR SOME OF
01:08:01.777 --> 01:08:03.179
OUR CONCERNS WHICH I I WON'T
01:08:03.245 --> 01:08:04.680
BELABOR HERE --
01:08:04.747 --> 01:08:07.049
TODAY OTHER THAN TO SAY --
01:08:07.116 --> 01:08:08.717
YOU KNOW WE WE HAVE HAVE HAD THE
01:08:08.784 --> 01:08:09.718
PROCESS WE HAVE IT'S BEEN
01:08:09.785 --> 01:08:11.320
FRUSTRATING I THINK FOR A LOT OF
01:08:11.387 --> 01:08:14.323
STAKEHOLDERS ON ON BOTH SIDES --
01:08:14.390 --> 01:08:16.959
YEAH DE BY YOU KNOW ANY NUMBER
01:08:17.026 --> 01:08:18.527
OF THINGS BEING TIME BOUND BY.
01:08:18.594 --> 01:08:19.595
STATUTE AND AND AND
01:08:19.662 --> 01:08:20.963
CONSTITUTIONAL BOUNDARIES IN
01:08:21.030 --> 01:08:22.031
JUST THE NATURE OF THE NEW
01:08:22.097 --> 01:08:23.432
INITIATIVE PROCESS AND SO I
01:08:23.499 --> 01:08:23.899
WOULD.
01:08:23.966 --> 01:08:26.001
ENCOURAGE THE AUTHOR AND AND AND
01:08:26.068 --> 01:08:27.603
I I ASSUME ULTIMATELY THE CO
01:08:27.670 --> 01:08:28.838
AUTHORS OF THE OF THIS AND
01:08:28.904 --> 01:08:30.873
SUBSEQUENT CLEAN UP BILLS --
01:08:30.940 --> 01:08:33.075
TO BEST AS WE CAN GRAB BACK HOLD
01:08:33.142 --> 01:08:34.944
I HAVE A PROCESS THAT ALLOWS FOR
01:08:35.010 --> 01:08:36.679
PUBLIC DELIBERATION THERE'S A
01:08:36.745 --> 01:08:38.981
LOT OF POWER IN WORDS AND SO.
01:08:39.048 --> 01:08:41.150
AND YOU KNOW BE AND BE AT THAT
01:08:41.217 --> 01:08:42.551
THE WORDS AND IN THE LANGUAGE
01:08:42.618 --> 01:08:44.520
NOW WERE ACCIDENTAL OR
01:08:44.587 --> 01:08:47.490
UNINTENTIONAL OR DID CLEAN UP --
01:08:47.556 --> 01:08:49.925
NAY THERE'S A LOT OF HER AT THE
01:08:49.992 --> 01:08:51.327
EXISTING PROCESS AND SO I WOULD
01:08:51.393 --> 01:08:53.128
JUST URGE CAUTION AND AND TO
01:08:53.195 --> 01:08:54.630
EXPAND THE SCOPE OF DELIBERATION
01:08:54.697 --> 01:08:56.098
AND AND AGAIN MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
01:08:56.165 --> 01:08:57.500
GRAB HOLD OF A NORMAL PROCESS SO
01:08:57.566 --> 01:08:58.767
THAT WE CAN THAT SOME OF THE
01:08:58.834 --> 01:09:00.536
CONCERNS THAT FOLKS HAVE --
01:09:00.603 --> 01:09:01.804
AS AS CHANGES ARE MADE ON A GO
01:09:01.871 --> 01:09:02.605
FORWARD THINKING [inaudible]
01:09:02.671 --> 01:09:04.340
NEXT PLACE.
01:09:04.406 --> 01:09:05.541
THINKING ATTACK OR THE CONSUMER
01:09:05.608 --> 01:09:07.476
ATTORNEY THE CALIFORNIA WE THINK
01:09:07.543 --> 01:09:08.477
THE AUTHOR FOR ALL THE WORK
01:09:08.544 --> 01:09:09.678
YOU'VE DONE TO PROTECT CONSUMERS
01:09:09.745 --> 01:09:11.380
FROM DATA BREACHES WE THINK THE
01:09:11.447 --> 01:09:12.715
CHAIR AND COMMITTEE COUNSEL FOR
01:09:12.781 --> 01:09:14.183
THEIR QUICK WORK. TO TRY AND
01:09:14.250 --> 01:09:15.651
WORK ON THESE TECHNICAL ISSUES
01:09:15.718 --> 01:09:17.553
WE'D LIKE TO WORK ON TIGHTENING
01:09:17.620 --> 01:09:18.787
UP THEN I MISS THE PRIVATE RIGHT
01:09:18.854 --> 01:09:20.689
OF ACTION PIECE WE UNDERSTAND
01:09:20.756 --> 01:09:22.324
THE INTENT TO LIMIT THE PRIVATE
01:09:22.391 --> 01:09:23.692
OF ACTION TO JOSS.
01:09:23.759 --> 01:09:24.827
THE DATA BREACH PORTION OF THE
01:09:24.894 --> 01:09:26.061
BILL BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE
01:09:26.128 --> 01:09:27.763
THAT ANY EXISTING LEGAL RIGHTS
01:09:27.830 --> 01:09:28.864
REMEDIES ARE PROTECTED.
01:09:28.931 --> 01:09:30.065
THROUGH LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING
01:09:30.132 --> 01:09:31.300
WITH THE AUTHOR COMMITTEE
01:09:31.367 --> 01:09:32.334
STAKEHOLDERS ON TIGHTENING UP
01:09:32.401 --> 01:09:33.936
THIS LANGUAGE THANK YOU THANK
01:09:34.003 --> 01:09:35.137
YOU MATCHA ADDITIONAL.
01:09:35.204 --> 01:09:37.806
SUPPORTERS.
01:09:37.873 --> 01:09:38.941
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS MIKE MATIC
01:09:39.008 --> 01:09:41.210
CONSUMER WATCHDOG A IN SUPPORT
01:09:41.277 --> 01:09:44.713
AND CONGRATULATE ALL THAT WHO.
01:09:44.780 --> 01:09:46.515
AMAZING EFFORT ON THIS THING FOR
01:09:46.582 --> 01:09:47.116
EVERYBODY THANK YOU THANK YOU
01:09:47.182 --> 01:09:48.551
MATCH.
01:09:48.617 --> 01:09:49.018
HOW?
01:09:49.084 --> 01:09:54.924
PLEASE COME FORWARD.
01:09:54.990 --> 01:09:55.991
MORNING MR CHAIRED MEMBERS THEIR
01:09:56.058 --> 01:09:56.992
BOOT ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
01:09:57.059 --> 01:09:58.561
CHAMBER OF COMMERCE TESTIFYING
01:09:58.627 --> 01:09:59.361
TODAY.
01:09:59.428 --> 01:10:00.763
MORE OF IT TWEENER STATUS IS
01:10:00.829 --> 01:10:02.898
WILD ELEMENT OF OUT OF SUPPORT
01:10:02.965 --> 01:10:04.066
OMITTED NEUTRALITY IT COLEMAN OF
01:10:04.133 --> 01:10:05.801
CONCERN WHICH SOME OF WHICH HAS
01:10:05.868 --> 01:10:06.869
BEEN ALLEVIATED BY MISTER DODDS
01:10:06.936 --> 01:10:08.404
REMARKS FRANKLY --
01:10:08.470 --> 01:10:10.072
VERSUS WANT TO THANK SENATOR
01:10:10.139 --> 01:10:11.674
DODD -- FOR
01:10:11.740 --> 01:10:12.975
BY REMOVING THAT ADDITIONAL DATA
01:10:13.042 --> 01:10:14.543
BREACH LANGUAGE FROM THE BILL
01:10:14.610 --> 01:10:16.812
OBVIOUSLY WITH AB THREE SEVENTY
01:10:16.879 --> 01:10:17.846
FIVE BUSINESSES ARE GOING TO BE
01:10:17.913 --> 01:10:20.316
COMPLYING WITH A LOT MORE --
01:10:20.382 --> 01:10:21.650
LAWS AND HAVE A LOT MORE
01:10:21.717 --> 01:10:23.385
LIABILITY AND SO I THINK THAT
01:10:23.452 --> 01:10:23.986
WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS TAKEN
01:10:24.053 --> 01:10:25.020
INTO CONSIDERATION HERE WE'RE
01:10:25.087 --> 01:10:27.356
REALLY GRATEFUL FOR THAT --
01:10:27.423 --> 01:10:28.857
ALSO ONE I THINK SENATOR DODD
01:10:28.924 --> 01:10:29.992
FOR ENSURING THAT THERE IS THIS
01:10:30.059 --> 01:10:31.860
SHORTER TERM TECHNICAL FIX
01:10:31.927 --> 01:10:33.996
VEHICLE GOING FORWARD --
01:10:34.063 --> 01:10:36.699
WITH RESPECT TO THE THREE
01:10:36.765 --> 01:10:39.034
ASPECTS OF THE LANGUAGE THAT ARE
01:10:39.101 --> 01:10:40.235
INCLUDED IN THE COMMITTEE
01:10:40.302 --> 01:10:41.604
ANALYSIS --
01:10:41.670 --> 01:10:42.438
WE CERTAINLY AGREE IN THE
01:10:42.504 --> 01:10:44.673
CONCEPT OF MAKING SURE THAT THE
01:10:44.740 --> 01:10:47.109
PR A IS EXPLICITLY LIMITED TO
01:10:47.176 --> 01:10:49.111
JUST THE DATA BREACH SECTION --
01:10:49.178 --> 01:10:51.480
YOU KNOW THE NEWSPAPER FIXES IT
01:10:51.547 --> 01:10:53.115
YOU KNOW IN CONCEPT THAT'S GREAT
01:10:53.182 --> 01:10:53.849
IN THAT THESE OTHER TECHNICAL
01:10:53.916 --> 01:10:54.683
FIXES.
01:10:54.750 --> 01:10:55.951
I MEAN CONCEPTS SHOULD BE GREAT
01:10:56.018 --> 01:10:57.620
WE JUST NEED MORE TIME TO REVIEW
01:10:57.686 --> 01:10:58.253
THE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE AND MAKE
01:10:58.320 --> 01:10:59.455
SURE THAT WE AGREE WITH THE
01:10:59.521 --> 01:11:00.889
LANGUAGE --
01:11:00.956 --> 01:11:02.491
AND THEN FINALLY --
01:11:02.558 --> 01:11:03.025
OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A TIGHT
01:11:03.092 --> 01:11:05.928
TIMEFRAME. SEVENTY FIVE AND
01:11:05.995 --> 01:11:06.462
MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE A
01:11:06.528 --> 01:11:08.797
VEHICLE TO MOVE FORWARD TODAY
01:11:08.864 --> 01:11:10.332
BUT WE JUST WANT TO ENSURE THAT
01:11:10.399 --> 01:11:11.400
GOING FOR THE BUSINESS COMMITTEE
01:11:11.467 --> 01:11:12.735
WILL HAVE THAT MEANINGFUL
01:11:12.801 --> 01:11:14.036
OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT.
01:11:14.103 --> 01:11:16.171
DISCUSS AND REQUEST ADDITIONAL
01:11:16.238 --> 01:11:17.539
FIXES TO BE INCLUDED IN THIS
01:11:17.606 --> 01:11:18.440
BILL IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT WILL BE
01:11:18.507 --> 01:11:19.975
THE CASE BASED ON WHAT SENATOR
01:11:20.042 --> 01:11:20.776
DODD WAS SAYING WE REALLY
01:11:20.843 --> 01:11:21.810
APPRECIATE THAT.
01:11:21.877 --> 01:11:22.811
AND CERTAINLY YOU KNOW BEYOND
01:11:22.878 --> 01:11:25.147
JUST TRULY TECHNICAL FIXES YOU
01:11:25.214 --> 01:11:26.782
KNOW WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR ARE
01:11:26.849 --> 01:11:28.684
YOU KNOW ADDRESSING OTHER ISSUES
01:11:28.751 --> 01:11:30.786
THAT MAY BE LESS CONTROVERSIAL --
01:11:30.853 --> 01:11:32.254
ADDRESSING NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES
01:11:32.321 --> 01:11:33.389
THAT MAY STEM FROM THE BILL THAT
01:11:33.455 --> 01:11:34.757
WERE UNINTENDED THAT SORT OF
01:11:34.823 --> 01:11:36.825
THING THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HOPING
01:11:36.892 --> 01:11:37.993
TO ACCOMPLISH WITH --
01:11:38.060 --> 01:11:39.762
WITH SB ELEVEN TWENTY ONE AT
01:11:39.828 --> 01:11:40.362
THIS POINT WE'RE WORKING ON A
01:11:40.429 --> 01:11:41.864
LIST OF OF THOSE THINGS RIGHT
01:11:41.930 --> 01:11:43.332
NOW AND I WE BELIEVE EVERYONE
01:11:43.399 --> 01:11:44.800
WILL BENEFIT IF WE CAN INCLUDE
01:11:44.867 --> 01:11:45.668
AS MANY OF THEM AS POSSIBLE AS
01:11:45.734 --> 01:11:47.036
SOON AS POSSIBLE --
01:11:47.102 --> 01:11:50.572
THANK YOU.
01:11:50.639 --> 01:11:51.573
MISTER CHAIRMAN COMMITTEE AT
01:11:51.640 --> 01:11:52.675
KEVIN CAN WITH INTERNET
01:11:52.741 --> 01:11:54.643
ASSOCIATION I WON'T BELABOR THE
01:11:54.710 --> 01:11:56.045
POINT ECHO SENTIMENTS.
01:11:56.111 --> 01:11:58.347
OF MY COLLEAGUE FROM CAL CHAMBER
01:11:58.414 --> 01:11:58.714
THANK YOU MUCH.
01:11:58.781 --> 01:12:00.949
EXPLAINS.
01:12:01.016 --> 01:12:01.717
MISTER CHAIR LAURA BUT WITH
01:12:01.784 --> 01:12:02.851
TECHNIQUES ONE ASSOCIATE ARE
01:12:02.918 --> 01:12:04.319
COMMON TO THOSE OF CAL CHAMBER
01:12:04.386 --> 01:12:05.721
ESPECIALLY HEARING THAT THIS
01:12:05.788 --> 01:12:06.789
BILL REMAINS OPEN FOR FURTHER
01:12:06.855 --> 01:12:07.756
CONSIDERATION.
01:12:07.823 --> 01:12:10.392
OF WHAT INDUSTRY WANTS TO AS HE
01:12:10.459 --> 01:12:11.927
FIX THIS BILL MOVING FORWARDS TO
01:12:11.994 --> 01:12:12.828
THINK YOU [inaudible]
01:12:12.895 --> 01:12:14.863
THANKS PLACE.
01:12:14.930 --> 01:12:15.998
MISTER CHAIRMAN WAS CHRIS MCKAY
01:12:16.065 --> 01:12:17.232
WE ON BEHALF OF THE COMPUTING
01:12:17.299 --> 01:12:19.001
TECHNOLOGY INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION
01:12:19.068 --> 01:12:20.169
AND WE SHARE THE CONCERNS OF
01:12:20.235 --> 01:12:21.203
CHAMBER ENUMERATED.
01:12:21.270 --> 01:12:24.506
THANK YOU BACKSPACE.
01:12:24.573 --> 01:12:25.641
MISTER CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS
01:12:25.708 --> 01:12:26.709
KEVIN GOULD WITH CALIFORNIA
01:12:26.775 --> 01:12:28.210
BANKERS ASSOCIATION.
01:12:28.277 --> 01:12:29.578
WE PERCEIVE THE GRAMM LEACH
01:12:29.645 --> 01:12:31.947
BLILEY EXEMPTION THAT WAS IN AB
01:12:32.014 --> 01:12:32.581
THREE SEVENTY FIVE WE THINK IT
01:12:32.648 --> 01:12:33.882
CAN BE IMPROVED.
01:12:33.949 --> 01:12:34.917
WE'VE DRAFTED LANGUAGE THAT WE
01:12:34.983 --> 01:12:36.118
THINK --
01:12:36.185 --> 01:12:36.685
ACCOMPLISHES THAT GOAL OF
01:12:36.752 --> 01:12:37.486
IMPROVEMENT.
01:12:37.553 --> 01:12:38.487
OUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
01:12:38.554 --> 01:12:39.888
THERE'S STABILITY IN THE
01:12:39.955 --> 01:12:40.989
FINANCIAL MARKETS --
01:12:41.056 --> 01:12:43.192
ENTITIES THAT ARE COVERED BY GOP
01:12:43.258 --> 01:12:44.927
I HAVE A LOT OF PROTECTIONS WITH
01:12:44.993 --> 01:12:46.462
REGARD TO THE SHARING OF
01:12:46.528 --> 01:12:47.629
INFORMATION --
01:12:47.696 --> 01:12:49.565
AND HOW THAT INFORMATION IS HELD --
01:12:49.631 --> 01:12:50.666
AND THAT IS ALSO JOINED BY
01:12:50.733 --> 01:12:52.234
WHAT'S IN THE THE SENATE BILL
01:12:52.301 --> 01:12:53.702
ONE PROVISIONS IN THE FINANCIAL
01:12:53.769 --> 01:12:55.104
CODES WE LOOK FORWARD.
01:12:55.170 --> 01:12:55.671
TO WORKING WITH THE SENATOR
01:12:55.738 --> 01:12:57.506
THROUGH THE SUMMER AND HOPE TO
01:12:57.573 --> 01:12:59.074
GET OTHER REFINEMENTS AYE INTO
01:12:59.141 --> 01:13:00.776
INTO OF THIS PARTICULAR BILL
01:13:00.843 --> 01:13:03.679
THANK YOU I CAN EXPRESS.
01:13:03.746 --> 01:13:04.513
MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE
01:13:04.580 --> 01:13:05.848
COMMITTEE JIM E. WORKED WITH A
01:13:05.914 --> 01:13:07.216
CALIFORNIA NEWS PUBLISHERS
01:13:07.282 --> 01:13:08.484
ASSOCIATION.
01:13:08.550 --> 01:13:10.919
WANT TO THANK THE SENATOR --
01:13:10.986 --> 01:13:12.321
FOR HIS PROPOSAL TO TRY TO
01:13:12.387 --> 01:13:13.522
ADDRESS THE CONCERNS THAT WE'VE
01:13:13.589 --> 01:13:17.593
RAISED AN IDENTIFIED IN AB THREE
01:13:17.659 --> 01:13:18.227
SEVENTY FIVE HOW WE'RE NOT THERE
01:13:18.293 --> 01:13:19.261
YET -- BUT
01:13:19.328 --> 01:13:20.896
WE ARE TO LOOK FORWARD TO
01:13:20.963 --> 01:13:22.598
WORKING WITH YOUR STAFF --
01:13:22.664 --> 01:13:24.967
AND SENATOR AND HIS STAFF I TO
01:13:25.033 --> 01:13:26.735
ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS OUT WE
01:13:26.802 --> 01:13:28.337
ALSO SHARE SOME OF THE CONCERNS
01:13:28.403 --> 01:13:30.606
THE CHAMBER ARTICULATED IN AND
01:13:30.672 --> 01:13:33.108
LOOK FORWARD --
01:13:33.175 --> 01:13:34.409
TO WORKING THROUGH THIS --
01:13:34.476 --> 01:13:36.011
WITH SOME TIME I TO MAKE SURE
01:13:36.078 --> 01:13:37.880
THAT WE GET THIS ONE RIGHT THANK
01:13:37.946 --> 01:13:38.447
YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU MUCH
01:13:38.514 --> 01:13:39.815
NEXT PLEASE.
01:13:39.882 --> 01:13:41.016
GOOD MORNING SHERRI MICKEY
01:13:41.083 --> 01:13:42.184
REPRESENT A CALIFORNIA CREDIT
01:13:42.251 --> 01:13:43.051
UNION.
01:13:43.118 --> 01:13:44.486
LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA AND WE'D
01:13:44.553 --> 01:13:46.221
ASSURE THEIR COMMENTS AND ECHO
01:13:46.288 --> 01:13:47.122
THE COMMENTS I SHOULD SAY OF THE
01:13:47.189 --> 01:13:48.490
CALVARY BANKERS ASSOCIATION'S
01:13:48.557 --> 01:13:49.825
PERTAINS THE GRAMM LEACH BLILEY
01:13:49.892 --> 01:13:50.859
ACT THANK YOU.
01:13:50.926 --> 01:13:52.961
THANK YOU NEXT PLACE.
01:13:53.028 --> 01:13:53.996
CHAIR MEMBERS JOHN TREATING ON
01:13:54.062 --> 01:13:55.597
BEHALF ASSOCIATION CALIFORNIA
01:13:55.664 --> 01:13:56.965
LIFE AND HEALTH INSURANCE
01:13:57.032 --> 01:13:58.467
COMPANIES WE'D LIKE --
01:13:58.534 --> 01:13:59.668
ECHOED STRANDS EXPRESSED BY THE
01:13:59.735 --> 01:14:01.170
CHAMBER AND ALSO BY THE BANKERS.
01:14:01.236 --> 01:14:03.472
THANK YOU NEXT PLACE.
01:14:03.539 --> 01:14:04.206
CHAIRMAN --
01:14:04.273 --> 01:14:05.440
MICHAEL GETTING MEMBERS MICHAEL
01:14:05.507 --> 01:14:06.408
GETTING PERSONAL INTEREST
01:14:06.475 --> 01:14:07.776
FEDERATION I THINK OF THE
01:14:07.843 --> 01:14:09.444
AUTHORS VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE
01:14:09.511 --> 01:14:10.913
INSURANCE INDUSTRY BY NOW.
01:14:10.979 --> 01:14:12.514
AN ECHO OF THE OTHER COMMENTS
01:14:12.581 --> 01:14:14.917
AND ALSO CERTAINLY APPRECIATE
01:14:14.983 --> 01:14:16.485
THAT I WE WORK TOGETHER.
01:14:16.552 --> 01:14:17.619
TO AMEND THE BILL THANK YOU SIR.
01:14:17.686 --> 01:14:20.155
THANK YOU MUCH NEXT PLACE.
01:14:20.222 --> 01:14:21.490
JURY MEMBERS KEVIN BACK AMERICAN
01:14:21.557 --> 01:14:22.491
CIVIL LIBERTIES UNION OF
01:14:22.558 --> 01:14:24.326
CALIFORNIA OR NOT IN OPPOSITION
01:14:24.393 --> 01:14:24.893
I THINK WE HAD A POSITION IT
01:14:24.960 --> 01:14:27.062
WOULD HAVE TO BE UP --
01:14:27.129 --> 01:14:28.797
THERE APPEAR TO BE SUGGESTIONS
01:14:28.864 --> 01:14:31.400
FOR CHANGES THAT ARE NOT.
01:14:31.466 --> 01:14:33.402
QUITE TECHNICAL THEIR OTHER
01:14:33.468 --> 01:14:35.103
TECHNICAL CHANGES THAT DON'T
01:14:35.170 --> 01:14:37.072
SEEM TO HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED YET.
01:14:37.139 --> 01:14:40.676
ON AND WE'RE I COULD JUST ON
01:14:40.742 --> 01:14:41.910
REINFORCED REMARKS OF MISS
01:14:41.977 --> 01:14:43.812
CORBIN I THINK THIS IS A TIME TO
01:14:43.879 --> 01:14:45.781
GO SLOW AND MAKE SURE THERE
01:14:45.848 --> 01:14:46.615
DOESN'T SEEM TO BE A RUSH RIGHT
01:14:46.682 --> 01:14:47.149
NOW.
01:14:47.216 --> 01:14:49.218
WE'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF TIME
01:14:49.284 --> 01:14:50.819
LET'S DO THIS RIGHT.
01:14:50.886 --> 01:14:53.722
AND AND AND MAKE SURE THAT WE WE
01:14:53.789 --> 01:14:56.758
DON'T GO THROUGH THE SAME --
01:14:56.825 --> 01:14:59.428
HASTE WITH WHICH WE THE PREVIOUS
01:14:59.494 --> 01:15:01.163
BILL WAS ENACTED THANK YOU.
01:15:01.230 --> 01:15:03.999
THANK YOU NEXT PLACE.
01:15:04.066 --> 01:15:05.200
MR MEMBERS JOHN DURING ABOUT THE
01:15:05.267 --> 01:15:07.536
CIVIL JUSTICE SOCIAIS XIN WE DO
01:15:07.603 --> 01:15:09.104
WE HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT --
01:15:09.171 --> 01:15:11.106
THE WE SUPPORT THE IDEA OF
01:15:11.173 --> 01:15:12.875
LIMITING THE PRIVATE ACTION THAT --
01:15:12.941 --> 01:15:15.143
THESE SECURITY BREACHES WE THINK
01:15:15.210 --> 01:15:15.811
THERE'S STILL NEEDS TO BE WORKED
01:15:15.878 --> 01:15:17.846
ON THEIR ON AND I WOULD SAY I
01:15:17.913 --> 01:15:19.548
WOULD ADVENTURE TO SAY THAT I
01:15:19.615 --> 01:15:20.916
THINK THAT THE EVENTUAL CLEAN A
01:15:20.983 --> 01:15:22.017
BILL HAS TO GO A LITTLE BIT
01:15:22.084 --> 01:15:23.151
BEYOND TECHNICAL.
01:15:23.218 --> 01:15:25.120
ON TO FIX SOME OF THE THINGS I
01:15:25.187 --> 01:15:26.722
THINK CONSUMERS WILL BE.
01:15:26.788 --> 01:15:28.490
ON DISAPPOINTED AND IF WE DON'T
01:15:28.557 --> 01:15:32.094
GET THEIR CLINICAL DRUG TRIALS
01:15:32.160 --> 01:15:34.162
YOU'RE A RAPID REWARDS ACCOUNTS
01:15:34.229 --> 01:15:35.664
THOSE TYPE OF THINGS WE STILL
01:15:35.731 --> 01:15:36.765
LOOK FOR TO WORKING WITH SENATOR
01:15:36.832 --> 01:15:39.034
ON THE APPRECIATE HIM TAKING UP
01:15:39.101 --> 01:15:41.270
THE BANNER OF OF OF WORKING OUT.
01:15:41.336 --> 01:15:43.839
THANK YOU NEXT PLACE.
01:15:43.906 --> 01:15:45.007
FAILING BORDERS ON BEHALF OF THE
01:15:45.073 --> 01:15:46.475
CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF HEALTH
01:15:46.541 --> 01:15:48.343
UNDERWRITERS WE ARE RESPECTFULLY
01:15:48.410 --> 01:15:49.811
OPPOSE IN LITTLE MINOR COMMENTS
01:15:49.878 --> 01:15:51.780
WITH THOSE OF THE CHAMBER.
01:15:51.847 --> 01:15:52.781
THANK YOU NEXT PLACE JERRY
01:15:52.848 --> 01:15:54.483
DOESN'T HAVE THE CALIFORNIA
01:15:54.549 --> 01:15:55.017
ASSOCIATION OF LICENSED
01:15:55.083 --> 01:15:56.218
INVESTIGATORS AND WE ALSO
01:15:56.285 --> 01:15:57.352
ALIGNER COMMENTS FOR THOSE OF
01:15:57.419 --> 01:15:59.955
THE CHAMBER.
01:16:00.022 --> 01:16:01.390
NEXT PLEASE MISTER CHAIRMAN
01:16:01.456 --> 01:16:02.491
MEMBERS BERNIE OROZCO AT THE
01:16:02.557 --> 01:16:02.891
COMPANY CABLE AND
01:16:02.958 --> 01:16:04.860
TELECOMMUNICATIONS ASSOCIATION --
01:16:04.927 --> 01:16:06.595
WE ARE ALSO ALIGN WITH ORANGE
01:16:06.662 --> 01:16:07.462
INDUSTRY FOLKS THE CHAMBER OF
01:16:07.529 --> 01:16:08.263
COMMERCE.
01:16:08.330 --> 01:16:09.464
I WOULD LIKE AND WE HAVE A
01:16:09.531 --> 01:16:10.465
NUMBER OF TECHNICAL ISSUES WE
01:16:10.532 --> 01:16:11.934
THINK NEED TO BE ADDRESSED SO WE
01:16:12.000 --> 01:16:12.968
APPRECIATE THAT OPPORTUNITIES
01:16:13.035 --> 01:16:15.570
YOU THAT OVER THE SUMMER RECESS --
01:16:15.637 --> 01:16:18.206
WITH THE AUTHOR ONE POINT I'D
01:16:18.273 --> 01:16:19.641
LIKE TO JUST MAKE NOW THOUGH IT
01:16:19.708 --> 01:16:21.009
YOU HAD A VERY GOOD DISCUSSION
01:16:21.076 --> 01:16:22.044
ABOUT WHAT IS REASONABLE
01:16:22.110 --> 01:16:23.946
SECURITY AND I THINK MISPLAYED
01:16:24.012 --> 01:16:24.980
WAS TALK ABOUT A SAFE HARBOR
01:16:25.047 --> 01:16:26.882
ISSUE SO. FOR THE PARENT OF
01:16:26.949 --> 01:16:28.116
ACTION YOU CANNOT HAVE A PART
01:16:28.183 --> 01:16:29.384
RIGHT OF ACTION IF THERE'S A
01:16:29.451 --> 01:16:30.719
SECURITY --
01:16:30.786 --> 01:16:32.821
REASONABLE SECURITY MEASURES AND
01:16:32.888 --> 01:16:34.656
IN YOUR HAIR DATA MANAGEMENT --
01:16:34.723 --> 01:16:36.058
SO THAT SAME DISCUSSION THAT YOU
01:16:36.124 --> 01:16:37.426
HAVE WHAT IS REASONABLE SECURITY
01:16:37.492 --> 01:16:38.427
SO I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE
01:16:38.493 --> 01:16:39.761
FLUSHED OUT THAT'S ONE OF THE
01:16:39.828 --> 01:16:40.762
THAT THE MAIN THING SO MISTER
01:16:40.829 --> 01:16:41.129
CHAO.
01:16:41.196 --> 01:16:42.965
WHEN YOUR BILL PASSED AB THREE
01:16:43.031 --> 01:16:44.299
SEVEN FIVE WE SENT YOU A LIST OF
01:16:44.366 --> 01:16:45.801
ISSUES THAT WE LIKE TO SEE
01:16:45.867 --> 01:16:47.336
ADDRESSABLE JUST READ OF REDO
01:16:47.402 --> 01:16:48.870
THAT LETTER MAY BE SENT?
01:16:48.937 --> 01:16:50.772
TO THE SENATOR HERE TO SENATOR
01:16:50.839 --> 01:16:54.076
DODD BUT ONE OF WHAT CONSTITUTES
01:16:54.142 --> 01:16:56.378
REASONABLE SECURITY AND THAT'S
01:16:56.445 --> 01:16:57.312
GOING TO BE VERY VERY IMPORTANT
01:16:57.379 --> 01:16:58.480
BECAUSE IT THAT WHEN WE TALK
01:16:58.547 --> 01:17:00.048
ABOUT PRIVATE RIGHT OF ACTION.
01:17:00.115 --> 01:17:02.684
THANK YOU NICE PLACE.
01:17:02.751 --> 01:17:03.418
I FEEL THE GRIEF FOR THE
01:17:03.485 --> 01:17:04.586
ADVANCED MEDICAL TECHNOLOGY
01:17:04.653 --> 01:17:05.754
ASSOCIATION AND ON BEHALF OF
01:17:05.821 --> 01:17:07.522
CALVARY LIFE SIGNS ASSOCIATION
01:17:07.589 --> 01:17:08.123
JUST ASSOCIATE OR COMMENTS FOR
01:17:08.190 --> 01:17:09.524
THOSE OF THE CHAIN.
01:17:09.591 --> 01:17:10.492
THANK YOU ARE VERY MUCH NEXT
01:17:10.559 --> 01:17:12.160
PLEASE.
01:17:12.227 --> 01:17:13.428
MARGARET GLAD SHE NEVER HAVE
01:17:13.495 --> 01:17:15.097
CALIFORNIA RETAILERS ASSOCIATION
01:17:15.163 --> 01:17:16.264
WE ASSOCIATE OUR MARCH WITH
01:17:16.331 --> 01:17:17.733
CHAMBER WE THANK THE AUTHOR FOR
01:17:17.799 --> 01:17:19.067
DROPPING THE CURRENT CONTENT OF
01:17:19.134 --> 01:17:20.969
SB.
01:17:21.036 --> 01:17:21.570
ELEVEN TWENTY ONE THE COURT OF
01:17:21.636 --> 01:17:22.537
WORKING WITH HIM ON FIXES ON
01:17:22.604 --> 01:17:23.338
THEY HAVE THE CALIFORNIA
01:17:23.405 --> 01:17:24.806
COMMUNITY BANKING NETWORK WE
01:17:24.873 --> 01:17:25.741
ALIGN OURSELVES WITH THE
01:17:25.807 --> 01:17:26.975
COMMENTS OF MISTER GORE THAT
01:17:27.042 --> 01:17:28.643
CALIFORNIA BAKER SAY SHE'S.
01:17:28.710 --> 01:17:29.878
THANK YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH
01:17:29.945 --> 01:17:31.913
ARE SEEN NO OTHER OPPOSITION
01:17:31.980 --> 01:17:34.449
LENNY'S LET ME TAKE A MINUTE TO
01:17:34.516 --> 01:17:36.318
THANK THE AUTHOR. FOUR FOR
01:17:36.385 --> 01:17:37.886
THOUGHT ACCEPTING THE AMENDMENTS
01:17:37.953 --> 01:17:41.723
AND VOLUNTEERING HIS SIR S. B.
01:17:41.790 --> 01:17:42.290
ELEVEN TWENTY ONE TO BE THE
01:17:42.357 --> 01:17:42.958
VEHICLE.
01:17:43.025 --> 01:17:44.826
ARMED FOR THE NECESSARY
01:17:44.893 --> 01:17:47.629
TECHNICAL CLEAN UP BY TWO AB
01:17:47.696 --> 01:17:48.997
THREE SEVENTIES.
01:17:49.064 --> 01:17:50.632
FIVE ARE AS WE KNOW DE
01:17:50.699 --> 01:17:52.367
ABBREVIATED AMOUNT OF TIME THAT
01:17:52.434 --> 01:17:55.037
WE HAD TO GET AB THREE SEVEN
01:17:55.103 --> 01:17:56.405
FIVE SIGNED INTO LAW.
01:17:56.471 --> 01:17:57.839
A REALLY RESULTED IN THE NUMBER
01:17:57.906 --> 01:18:00.175
OF DRAFTING IN TECHNICAL ERRORS.
01:18:00.242 --> 01:18:02.077
ALL IN I'M VERY HAPPY THAT THERE
01:18:02.144 --> 01:18:03.378
IS NOW AT A VEHICLE ARE
01:18:03.445 --> 01:18:05.180
DEDICATED TO ADDRESSING THE
01:18:05.247 --> 01:18:07.516
ERROR STAT MOST IMMEDIATELY
01:18:07.582 --> 01:18:09.151
REQUIRE CORRECTION.
01:18:09.217 --> 01:18:10.385
ALL DURING THIS LEGISLATIVE
01:18:10.452 --> 01:18:12.220
SESSION SO WE CAN TURN TO MORE
01:18:12.287 --> 01:18:13.588
CLARIFYING AMENDMENTS.
01:18:13.655 --> 01:18:15.123
IN ANOTHER CLEAN UP BILL FOR
01:18:15.190 --> 01:18:16.892
NEXT YEAR.
01:18:16.958 --> 01:18:18.060
NOW WITH THAT BEING SAID THIS
01:18:18.126 --> 01:18:19.494
VEHICLE IS ALSO INTENDED TO DRAW
01:18:19.561 --> 01:18:21.897
CERTAIN COMMITMENTS THAT WERE
01:18:21.963 --> 01:18:23.698
MADE BY MYSELF SENATOR.
01:18:23.765 --> 01:18:24.900
IT'S BURKE AS WELL AS SENATOR
01:18:24.966 --> 01:18:27.969
DIED DURING THE PASSAGE OF A
01:18:28.036 --> 01:18:29.204
THREE SEVENTY FIVE RELATING TO
01:18:29.271 --> 01:18:30.539
THREE PARTICULAR ISSUES FIRST A
01:18:30.605 --> 01:18:32.407
PRIVATE RIGHT OF ACTION.
01:18:32.474 --> 01:18:35.077
AND A SECOND PROTECTED DUNLUCE
01:18:35.143 --> 01:18:36.511
GATHERING ACTIVITIES.
01:18:36.578 --> 01:18:38.613
AND A TECHNICAL CLEANUPS
01:18:38.680 --> 01:18:39.181
ENVISIONED BY THE ATTORNEY
01:18:39.247 --> 01:18:41.550
GENERAL'S OFFICE NOT WHO OF
01:18:41.616 --> 01:18:42.984
THESE ITEMS ARE CURRENTLY
01:18:43.051 --> 01:18:44.586
REFLECTED IN THE AMENDMENTS IN
01:18:44.653 --> 01:18:46.855
COMMITTEE ANALYSIS.
01:18:46.922 --> 01:18:48.023
OUR FIRST THERE'S LANGUAGE
01:18:48.090 --> 01:18:50.092
DESIGNED TO ENSURE THAT THE
01:18:50.158 --> 01:18:53.395
PRIVATE RIGHT OF ACTION UNDER.
01:18:53.462 --> 01:18:54.262
THREE SEVENTY FIVE IS LIMITED TO
01:18:54.329 --> 01:18:55.730
ONLY THE DATA BREACH PROVISION
01:18:55.797 --> 01:18:57.766
OF THE NEW LAW AS WE HEARD FROM
01:18:57.833 --> 01:19:00.635
MULTIPLE TARA FOCUSED TODAY.
01:19:00.702 --> 01:19:02.671
AS YOU YOU MAY RECALL WE ALSO
01:19:02.737 --> 01:19:04.506
DISCUSSED AS LIMITATION AT EVERY
01:19:04.573 --> 01:19:05.640
SINGLE HEARING.
01:19:05.707 --> 01:19:07.242
ARE DURING THE PASSAGE OF THREE
01:19:07.309 --> 01:19:08.710
SEVENTY FIVE LAST WEEK.
01:19:08.777 --> 01:19:10.679
AND WE MADE A PUBLIC COMMITMENT
01:19:10.745 --> 01:19:12.180
TO ENSURING THAT THE PRIVATE
01:19:12.247 --> 01:19:14.449
RIGHT OF ACTION DOES NOT APPLY.
01:19:14.516 --> 01:19:15.784
A MORE BROADLY THAN ORIGINALLY
01:19:15.851 --> 01:19:17.752
INTENDED.
01:19:17.819 --> 01:19:18.920
SO THEREFORE TOGETHER WITH THE
01:19:18.987 --> 01:19:20.555
EXISTING LANGUAGE IN THE NEW LAW
01:19:20.622 --> 01:19:22.791
ON THE PRIVATE RIGHT OF ACTION
01:19:22.858 --> 01:19:24.159
WILL APPLY ONLY TO THE DATA
01:19:24.226 --> 01:19:26.695
BREACH PROVISION.
01:19:26.761 --> 01:19:27.395
ARM.
01:19:27.462 --> 01:19:28.797
AND ANY OTHER RIGHTS AND
01:19:28.864 --> 01:19:30.132
OBLIGATIONS THAT MIGHT EXIST
01:19:30.198 --> 01:19:32.134
UNDER OTHER LAWS WILL REMAIN
01:19:32.200 --> 01:19:33.201
UNAFFECTED ARE BY THIS
01:19:33.268 --> 01:19:35.337
LIMITATION.
01:19:35.403 --> 01:19:36.671
NOW THAT BEING SAID THE
01:19:36.738 --> 01:19:38.940
AMENDMENT IN THE ANALYSIS IS A
01:19:39.007 --> 01:19:41.476
PLACE HOLDER ME UNDERSCORE THAT.
01:19:41.543 --> 01:19:42.677
INTENDED TO BEGIN THE
01:19:42.744 --> 01:19:44.112
CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW MUCH
01:19:44.179 --> 01:19:46.014
ASSURANCES SHOULD BE MADE.
01:19:46.081 --> 01:19:47.883
IN STATUE.
01:19:47.949 --> 01:19:48.950
AS THE AUTHOR AND COMMITTEE
01:19:49.017 --> 01:19:51.419
CONSIDER FEEDBACK ON HOW TO BEST
01:19:51.486 --> 01:19:53.955
ACHIEVE THE DESIRED RESULT.
01:19:54.022 --> 01:19:55.624
SECONDLY THE CALIFORNIA NEWS
01:19:55.690 --> 01:19:56.825
PUBLISHER NEW --
01:19:56.892 --> 01:19:58.193
ASSOCIATION EXPRESSED CONCERN
01:19:58.260 --> 01:20:00.128
THAT THREE SEVEN FIVE COULD
01:20:00.195 --> 01:20:01.363
INFRINGE ON FIRST AMENDMENT
01:20:01.429 --> 01:20:02.364
PROTECTED NEWS GATHERING
01:20:02.430 --> 01:20:04.533
ACTIVITIES AGAIN AS WE TESTIFIED
01:20:04.599 --> 01:20:06.868
DURING THE PASSAGE OF THREE
01:20:06.935 --> 01:20:08.503
SEVENTY FIVE LOSES THIS WAS NOT
01:20:08.570 --> 01:20:09.905
WHAT WE INTEDED AS WE
01:20:09.971 --> 01:20:11.339
SPECIFICALLY INCLUDED LANGUAGE
01:20:11.406 --> 01:20:13.775
IN THAT BILL. TO ENSURE THAT THE
01:20:13.842 --> 01:20:14.643
LAW DIDN'T AFFECT [inaudible]
01:20:14.709 --> 01:20:16.711
JOURNALISM.
01:20:16.778 --> 01:20:18.013
SO ACCORDINGLY THE AMENDMENTS
01:20:18.079 --> 01:20:20.215
INCLUDE A CARVE OUT FOR THOSE --
01:20:20.282 --> 01:20:21.483
FOOD FOR THESE PROTECTED NEW
01:20:21.550 --> 01:20:23.552
SCATTERING ACTIVITIES.
01:20:23.618 --> 01:20:24.753
SIMILAR TO THE PRIVATE RIGHT OF
01:20:24.819 --> 01:20:26.121
ACTION AMENDMENT THIS LANGUAGE
01:20:26.188 --> 01:20:28.256
IS INTENDED TO FUNCTION AGAIN AS
01:20:28.323 --> 01:20:29.891
A PLACE HOLDER.
01:20:29.958 --> 01:20:31.626
WHILE INTERESTED PARTIES PROVIDE
01:20:31.693 --> 01:20:32.894
FEEDBACK TO THE AUTHOR IN THE
01:20:32.961 --> 01:20:34.930
COMMITTEE ON HOW TO BEST ADDRESS
01:20:34.996 --> 01:20:36.464
THIS ISSUE AND AVOID ON INTO THE
01:20:36.531 --> 01:20:38.166
CONSEQUENCES [inaudible]
01:20:38.233 --> 01:20:40.168
SO FINALLY.
01:20:40.235 --> 01:20:41.703
SINCE RELEASING THE MOCK UPS SET
01:20:41.770 --> 01:20:42.837
OF AMENDMENTS THERE HAVE BEEN
01:20:42.904 --> 01:20:45.307
QUESTIONS REGARDING THE CHANGE.
01:20:45.373 --> 01:20:47.209
FROM THEIR WORK TERM EXPRESS
01:20:47.275 --> 01:20:49.778
AUTHORIZATION TO AFFIRMATIVE
01:20:49.844 --> 01:20:51.713
AUTHORIZATION QUOTE UNQUOTE.
01:20:51.780 --> 01:20:53.582
IN SECTION SEVENTEEN NINETY
01:20:53.648 --> 01:20:55.250
EIGHT ONE POINT.
01:20:55.317 --> 01:20:55.850
ONE TWENTY NOW THE PURPOSE OF
01:20:55.917 --> 01:20:57.219
THAT FOR THAT AMENDMENT IS TO
01:20:57.285 --> 01:20:58.887
BRING CONSISTENCY TO THE SECTION
01:20:58.954 --> 01:21:01.523
ABOUT MINORS OPTING IN. TO THE
01:21:01.590 --> 01:21:03.592
SALE OF INFORMATION AND IT IS MY
01:21:03.658 --> 01:21:05.327
UNDERSTANDING THAT AFFIRMATIVE
01:21:05.393 --> 01:21:06.795
AUTHORIZATION WAS ALWAYS OUR
01:21:06.861 --> 01:21:09.064
INTEND. FOR THE OFTEN
01:21:09.130 --> 01:21:11.132
REQUIREMENTS HOWEVER GIVEN A
01:21:11.199 --> 01:21:13.134
NUMBER OF QUESTIONS THAT
01:21:13.201 --> 01:21:14.669
POLITICAL THIS PARTICULAR
01:21:14.736 --> 01:21:16.404
AMENDMENT HAS GENERATED DAHLE WE
01:21:16.471 --> 01:21:18.740
WILL REFRAIN FROM MAKING GOT
01:21:18.807 --> 01:21:20.408
AMENDMENT AT THIS TIME.
01:21:20.475 --> 01:21:22.010
SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A OF
01:21:22.077 --> 01:21:23.278
DIALOGUE ABOUT IT AND TAKE A
01:21:23.345 --> 01:21:24.913
CLOSER LOOK.
01:21:24.980 --> 01:21:26.848
ARE THE INTENT AGAIN IS TO HAVE
01:21:26.915 --> 01:21:28.283
THIS CLEAN UP BILL THAT'S SOME
01:21:28.350 --> 01:21:30.752
THAT'S A TECHNICAL AND ARE.
01:21:30.819 --> 01:21:32.587
OF A PLACE HOLDER AS WELL AS NON
01:21:32.654 --> 01:21:34.256
CONTROVERSIAL.
01:21:34.322 --> 01:21:35.423
SO WITH THAT SAID I LIKE TO
01:21:35.490 --> 01:21:37.192
THINK THE AUTHOR AGAIN FOR THESE
01:21:37.259 --> 01:21:38.927
AMENDMENTS AND I ASK THAT I BE
01:21:38.994 --> 01:21:40.528
ADDED AS A CO AUTHOR.
01:21:40.595 --> 01:21:41.930
ARE AS WE CONTINUE TO WORK ON
01:21:41.997 --> 01:21:44.532
REFINING THIS IMPORTANT ON YOUR
01:21:44.599 --> 01:21:45.166
LAW.
01:21:45.233 --> 01:21:46.067
SO WITH THAT --
01:21:46.134 --> 01:21:46.601
I'D LIKE TO OPEN IT UP FOR
01:21:46.668 --> 01:21:50.071
QUESTIONS COMMITTEE MEMBERS
01:21:50.138 --> 01:21:50.372
[inaudible]
01:21:50.438 --> 01:21:52.374
MISS BAKER.
01:21:52.440 --> 01:21:54.509
OKAY MISS ORINDA HAS I THINK
01:21:54.576 --> 01:21:55.744
THAT ALL THE SPEAKERS OF SAID IT
01:21:55.810 --> 01:21:56.878
VERY WELL IT DID IT DOESN'T
01:21:56.945 --> 01:21:57.946
MATTER WHAT SIDE YOU'RE ON
01:21:58.013 --> 01:21:59.347
NOBODY IS COMPLETELY HAPPY
01:21:59.414 --> 01:22:01.216
BECAUSE THAT IT WASN'T
01:22:01.283 --> 01:22:02.450
NECESSARILY.
01:22:02.517 --> 01:22:04.152
POINTS SHORT TIMEFRAME A VERY
01:22:04.219 --> 01:22:06.655
COLLABORATIVE EFFORT BUT I I
01:22:06.721 --> 01:22:08.790
THINK OF I REALLY WANT TO THINK
01:22:08.857 --> 01:22:10.859
ASSEMBLY MEMBER CHAU SENATOR
01:22:10.925 --> 01:22:12.494
DODD AND HURTS BERG.
01:22:12.560 --> 01:22:13.995
FOR AG GETTING THIS ISSUE OFF
01:22:14.062 --> 01:22:15.664
THE BALLOT BECAUSE THIS IS THE
01:22:15.730 --> 01:22:17.365
RIGHT WAY TO DO THINGS THAT THAT
01:22:17.432 --> 01:22:19.200
WE MOVE FORWARD WE CORRECT THE
01:22:19.267 --> 01:22:20.669
DRAFTING ISSUES IN THE TECHNICAL
01:22:20.735 --> 01:22:22.070
ISSUES AND YOU ADDRESS THE
01:22:22.137 --> 01:22:25.040
PROMISES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE.
01:22:25.106 --> 01:22:27.275
IMPORTANT BECAUSE THIS IS A
01:22:27.342 --> 01:22:29.577
POLICY THAT CAN REALLY CHANGE.
01:22:29.644 --> 01:22:31.379
HOW WE DO IN CALIFORNIA AND WE
01:22:31.446 --> 01:22:32.347
NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE LOOK
01:22:32.414 --> 01:22:34.149
AT THOSE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES
01:22:34.215 --> 01:22:36.284
AND ADDRESS THEM GOING FORWARD
01:22:36.351 --> 01:22:38.053
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH?
01:22:38.119 --> 01:22:39.621
THANK YOU MISS BAKER THANK YOU
01:22:39.688 --> 01:22:41.890
MISTER CHAIRMAN JUST A TWO
01:22:41.956 --> 01:22:45.160
THINGS AND ONE IS.
01:22:45.226 --> 01:22:45.760
ILL WHAT'S GOING TO BE TALKED
01:22:45.827 --> 01:22:46.695
ABOUT.
01:22:46.761 --> 01:22:48.296
WE JUST HEARD OVER THE COURSE OF
01:22:48.363 --> 01:22:48.863
THE SUMMER RECESS WILL THIS
01:22:48.930 --> 01:22:50.398
BLESSED YOU.
01:22:50.465 --> 01:22:50.965
WELL THIS COMMITTEE HAVE AN
01:22:51.032 --> 01:22:52.634
OPPORTUNITY.
01:22:52.701 --> 01:22:53.234
NOT THAT I'M LOOKING FOR EXTRA
01:22:53.301 --> 01:22:54.669
COMMITTEE HEARINGS I WAS HAPPY
01:22:54.736 --> 01:22:55.870
TO HAVE FUN WHEN NECESSARY BUT
01:22:55.937 --> 01:22:58.440
TO TO HEAR THE AGAIN BECAUSE A
01:22:58.506 --> 01:23:00.909
LOT IS ON THAT LIST OF THINGS TO
01:23:00.975 --> 01:23:03.745
FIX BEYOND THE MINOR TECHNICAL.
01:23:03.812 --> 01:23:05.780
AND THERE WILL BE LANGUAGE TO
01:23:05.847 --> 01:23:09.184
SEE THE IMPACT TO EMPLOYERS AND
01:23:09.250 --> 01:23:11.319
EMPLOYEES THEREFORE WILL BE
01:23:11.386 --> 01:23:14.055
SIGNIFICANT POTENTIALLY --
01:23:14.122 --> 01:23:15.056
I DON'T KNOW IF I SHOULD
01:23:15.123 --> 01:23:16.324
DIRECTED TO THE CHAIR OF THE THE
01:23:16.391 --> 01:23:17.826
AUTHOR BUT I I WOULD THAT'S ONE
01:23:17.892 --> 01:23:18.793
QUESTION I HAVE A RE GONNA BE
01:23:18.860 --> 01:23:20.028
ABLE TO HEAR THIS AGAIN.
01:23:20.095 --> 01:23:21.796
AFTER SOME OF THESE CHANGES ARE
01:23:21.863 --> 01:23:24.132
MADE AND THE SECOND IS ONE OF
01:23:24.199 --> 01:23:25.166
THE ITEMS I REMEMBER FROM
01:23:25.233 --> 01:23:26.368
INFORMATIONAL HEARING --
01:23:26.434 --> 01:23:28.436
THAT I ATTENDED ON THE ORIGINAL
01:23:28.503 --> 01:23:29.037
BILL.
01:23:29.104 --> 01:23:32.040
UP I HAD SUGGESTED THAT.
01:23:32.107 --> 01:23:32.741
THERE IS A DELAYED
01:23:32.807 --> 01:23:34.175
IMPLEMENTATION BUT THAT THERE BE
01:23:34.242 --> 01:23:36.077
A HEARING.
01:23:36.144 --> 01:23:38.279
IN THIS BODY.
01:23:38.346 --> 01:23:40.482
BOB FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION.
01:23:40.548 --> 01:23:42.884
SO AND I DIDN'T HEAR THAT ON THE
01:23:42.951 --> 01:23:44.619
LIST OF ITEMS THAT YOU'RE
01:23:44.686 --> 01:23:45.754
CONTINUING TO LOOK AT I
01:23:45.820 --> 01:23:49.724
APPRECIATED THE AUTHORS --
01:23:49.791 --> 01:23:50.992
COMMITMENT COMMITTEE TO CONSIDER
01:23:51.059 --> 01:23:53.294
THAT I HOPE THAT WILL BE ONE OF
01:23:53.361 --> 01:23:53.895
THE ITEMS YOU MAY ADD TO YOUR
01:23:53.962 --> 01:23:54.996
LIST.
01:23:55.063 --> 01:23:56.731
SO THAT BEFORE IT BEFORE
01:23:56.798 --> 01:23:59.567
IMPLEMENTATION HAPPENS.
01:23:59.634 --> 01:24:00.902
WE ARE ABLE TO SAY IS THIS ARE
01:24:00.969 --> 01:24:02.270
NOW THE PATH WE REALLY WANT TO
01:24:02.337 --> 01:24:04.606
GO DOWN AND I WOULD NOT CONSIDER
01:24:04.672 --> 01:24:06.007
THIS THE HEARING.
01:24:06.074 --> 01:24:07.742
TO SAY THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENED SO
01:24:07.809 --> 01:24:10.612
I I'M OFFER THOSE TWO POINTS.
01:24:10.678 --> 01:24:12.847
FOR CONSIDERATION AND I HOPE
01:24:12.914 --> 01:24:14.949
THAT ONE OR BOTH OF YOU MIGHT
01:24:15.016 --> 01:24:17.952
ADDRESS THEM THANKS.
01:24:18.019 --> 01:24:19.154
WELL IN THE FIRST.
01:24:19.220 --> 01:24:21.055
SINCE I'VE BEEN THE ASSEMBLY AND
01:24:21.122 --> 01:24:22.791
I'M ASKING YUBA OUGHT WILL DEFER
01:24:22.857 --> 01:24:24.859
TO THE CHAIR ON THAT.
01:24:24.926 --> 01:24:26.327
ONE YEAH I'LL DEFINITELY DARBY
01:24:26.394 --> 01:24:28.797
CONSIDERING THOSE SAD THOSE --
01:24:28.863 --> 01:24:30.832
MA WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO KINDA
01:24:30.899 --> 01:24:31.833
HELP FACILITATE THE
01:24:31.900 --> 01:24:32.767
IMPLEMENTATION I THINK WITH
01:24:32.834 --> 01:24:34.102
ROUGHLY CONSIDER.
01:24:34.169 --> 01:24:35.837
SO IF YOU CAN ADD THAT TO THE BY
01:24:35.904 --> 01:24:37.272
THE WAY ON THE LIST THAT WAS
01:24:37.338 --> 01:24:38.740
REFERRED TO BY ON MY THINK
01:24:38.807 --> 01:24:40.809
MISTER OROZCO AYE I HAVE NOT
01:24:40.875 --> 01:24:42.143
SEEN THAT LIST YET IF YOU CAN
01:24:42.210 --> 01:24:43.077
ADD THAT TO AT LEAST I'LL BE
01:24:43.144 --> 01:24:44.112
I'LL.
01:24:44.179 --> 01:24:45.947
DEFINITELY BE LOOKING AT IT AND
01:24:46.014 --> 01:24:48.283
I'LL BE WORKING WITH MISTER AS
01:24:48.349 --> 01:24:50.418
THE ALTERNATIVE WOULD BE SO YEAH
01:24:50.485 --> 01:24:51.252
I DO WHAT I WANT TO INCREASE
01:24:51.319 --> 01:24:52.887
YOUR VERY GRATEFUL AND I THINK
01:24:52.954 --> 01:24:53.888
THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THOSE
01:24:53.955 --> 01:24:54.722
THINGS THAT WILL BETTER
01:24:54.789 --> 01:24:56.357
IMPLEMENT SO VERY GRATEFUL.
01:24:56.424 --> 01:24:59.060
FOR THAT.
01:24:59.127 --> 01:25:00.728
THANK YOU ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS
01:25:00.795 --> 01:25:03.665
COMMENTS MISCONDUCT AT I TWENTY
01:25:03.731 --> 01:25:04.699
ABOUT SENATE OUR CHANCE TO
01:25:04.766 --> 01:25:06.301
RESPOND TO SOME ABOUT WHAT'S
01:25:06.367 --> 01:25:08.336
BEEN SAID IN THAT MAYBE GOES A
01:25:08.403 --> 01:25:09.504
LITTLE BETTER SENSE OF WHAT --
01:25:09.571 --> 01:25:10.472
THE TRAJECTORY OF THIS
01:25:10.538 --> 01:25:11.573
PARTICULAR BILL IS GOING TO BE
01:25:11.639 --> 01:25:13.274
WHAT YOUR GOALS ARE FOR ALL FOR
01:25:13.341 --> 01:25:14.642
IT -- WHAT
01:25:14.709 --> 01:25:17.111
ALTERNATELY WILL BE THE SCOPE?
01:25:17.178 --> 01:25:18.246
ULTIMATELY AS YOU HEARD THE
01:25:18.313 --> 01:25:19.547
CHAIR -- IT
01:25:19.614 --> 01:25:21.449
YOUNG DURING HIS COMMENTS THIS
01:25:21.516 --> 01:25:23.051
IS A TACTICAL CLEAN UP BILL YOU
01:25:23.117 --> 01:25:25.887
ALSO HEARD FROM THE COMMENTS --
01:25:25.954 --> 01:25:27.922
YOU KNOW THAT THERE ARE THERE
01:25:27.989 --> 01:25:29.591
ARE SOME AREAS WHERE --
01:25:29.657 --> 01:25:32.961
I PEOPLE LIKE TO GO BEYOND THOSE
01:25:33.027 --> 01:25:34.128
AYE I WOULD SAY THAT --
01:25:34.195 --> 01:25:36.931
HE OUT.
01:25:36.998 --> 01:25:38.900
THE DO CHAIR OUTLINED YOUR VERY
01:25:38.967 --> 01:25:40.401
VERY CLEARLY AND SPECIFICALLY
01:25:40.468 --> 01:25:41.503
WHAT.
01:25:41.569 --> 01:25:42.437
AYE HE THOUGHT THAT THE
01:25:42.504 --> 01:25:44.439
PARAMETERS OF THAT SHOULD BE IN
01:25:44.506 --> 01:25:46.074
THAT PERHAPS DOWN THE LINE --
01:25:46.140 --> 01:25:47.308
THERE COULD THERE COULD THERE
01:25:47.375 --> 01:25:48.643
COULD BE SOMETHING ELSE I LOOK
01:25:48.710 --> 01:25:50.345
AT THIS STILL AS A TACTICAL
01:25:50.411 --> 01:25:51.880
CLEAN UP BILL ALONG THE
01:25:51.946 --> 01:25:53.481
PARAMETERS THAT THE CHAIR HAD
01:25:53.548 --> 01:25:58.586
SET FORTH.
01:25:58.653 --> 01:26:00.488
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ARE AND
01:26:00.555 --> 01:26:02.490
MISCELLANEOUS GO HEAD.
01:26:02.557 --> 01:26:03.324
THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING THE
01:26:03.391 --> 01:26:05.126
VEHICLE IT'S CLEAR THAT THERE
01:26:05.193 --> 01:26:05.994
HAVE TO BE TECHNICAL CLEAR A
01:26:06.060 --> 01:26:07.529
CLEAN UP.
01:26:07.595 --> 01:26:10.465
AND THIS NEEDED TO HAPPEN --
01:26:10.532 --> 01:26:12.467
I I THINK BY GETTING IT OUT BY
01:26:12.534 --> 01:26:14.068
TODAY THAN YOU HAVE.
01:26:14.135 --> 01:26:15.403
YOU KNOWN FORTUNATELY NOT YOU'RE
01:26:15.470 --> 01:26:18.306
GONNA HAVE THE REST OF JULY --
01:26:18.373 --> 01:26:20.241
FOR ALL OF YOU TO HAVE THOSE
01:26:20.308 --> 01:26:21.743
CONVERSATIONS WITH THE SENATOR
01:26:21.809 --> 01:26:24.212
AND REALLY WORKON THE LANGUAGE
01:26:24.279 --> 01:26:26.281
TO FINALIZE THAT AND I THINK I
01:26:26.347 --> 01:26:28.082
WOULD AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUE --
01:26:28.149 --> 01:26:30.318
THIS BAKER ABOUT HEARING SO THAT
01:26:30.385 --> 01:26:32.687
WE CAN HERE WITH THE FINAL
01:26:32.754 --> 01:26:34.455
RESULT IS BUT THANK YOU FOR
01:26:34.522 --> 01:26:35.723
PROVIDING THE VEHICLE THAT WE
01:26:35.790 --> 01:26:37.058
ABSOLUTELY NEED [inaudible]
01:26:37.125 --> 01:26:39.761
THANK YOU.
01:26:39.827 --> 01:26:40.595
THANK YOU WITHOUT THAT YOU MAY
01:26:40.662 --> 01:26:42.163
CLOSE I JUST KNEW I REALLY
01:26:42.230 --> 01:26:43.364
APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
01:26:43.431 --> 01:26:44.399
WORK WITH YOU AND YOUR CREDIBLE
01:26:44.465 --> 01:26:46.167
STAFF I KNOW THAT A LOT OF THIS
01:26:46.234 --> 01:26:46.935
IS BEEN ON VERY VERY SHORT TIME
01:26:47.001 --> 01:26:48.903
LINE.
01:26:48.970 --> 01:26:51.205
APPRECIATE THE WORK THANK YOU
01:26:51.272 --> 01:26:51.806
WOULD MAKE YOUR MIGHT ASK YOUR
01:26:51.873 --> 01:26:53.041
AYE VOTE.
01:26:53.107 --> 01:26:57.845
YES I DO I HAVE A MOTION.
01:26:57.912 --> 01:26:58.880
A FEW.
01:26:58.947 --> 01:27:00.748
MOVED AND SECONDED DATA MADAM
01:27:00.815 --> 01:27:03.084
SECRETARY ROLL CALL PLEASE.
01:27:03.151 --> 01:27:04.852
MOTIONS DAY PASSES MANIFEST
01:27:04.919 --> 01:27:07.221
SIMPLY FOR CHAO TIE SHOWER I
01:27:07.288 --> 01:27:09.090
KILEY.
01:27:09.157 --> 01:27:11.225
KILEY NOT VOTING BAKER.
01:27:11.292 --> 01:27:13.895
BAKER AYE BERMAN.
01:27:13.962 --> 01:27:15.396
CALDERON.
01:27:15.463 --> 01:27:17.231
CALDERON AYE GABRIEL.
01:27:17.298 --> 01:27:18.633
GABRIEL I IRWIN.
01:27:18.700 --> 01:27:20.835
IRWIN AYE MULLIN.
01:27:20.902 --> 01:27:22.136
OBERNOLTE.
01:27:22.203 --> 01:27:23.104
OBERNOLTE AYE VARIOUS
01:27:23.171 --> 01:27:23.404
[inaudible]
01:27:23.471 --> 01:27:26.941
YES I THE BILLS OUT SEVEN ZERO
01:27:27.008 --> 01:27:27.809
THINK THANK YOU VERY MUCH GERMAN
01:27:27.875 --> 01:27:35.383
MEMBERS [inaudible]
01:27:35.450 --> 01:27:37.151
SO [inaudible]
01:27:37.218 --> 01:27:39.253
SURE.
01:27:39.320 --> 01:27:44.726
IT'S VERY SAD AREA SO.
01:27:44.792 --> 01:27:49.097
SPENT A LOT MORE [inaudible]
01:27:49.163 --> 01:27:52.834
TELL [inaudible]
01:27:52.900 --> 01:28:01.542
I DON'T [inaudible]
01:28:01.609 --> 01:28:08.116
HOW CAN? THREE DO YOU THINK YOU
01:28:08.182 --> 01:28:29.570
HAD ON PLEASE ON THE WE TELL YOU
01:28:29.637 --> 01:28:29.871
[inaudible]
01:28:29.937 --> 01:28:39.847
BUT JACKSON.
01:28:39.914 --> 01:28:56.230
SO THIS WAS PART OF
01:29:20.021 --> 01:29:36.003
IF
01:30:21.349 --> 01:30:21.582
[inaudible]
01:30:21.649 --> 01:30:37.732
BOB
01:32:05.086 --> 01:32:07.021
HERTZBERG A WELCOME THANK
01:32:07.088 --> 01:32:07.788
YOU MISTER CHAIRMAN YOU HAVE A
01:32:07.855 --> 01:32:10.291
S. B. EIGHT THIRTY EIGHT YEAH
01:32:10.358 --> 01:32:11.459
ANYTIME YOU'RE READY YOU MAY
01:32:11.525 --> 01:32:12.059
BEGIN.
01:32:12.126 --> 01:32:16.330
LONG TIME NO SEE HAVE SLOWLY
01:32:16.397 --> 01:32:18.733
RIGHT.
01:32:18.799 --> 01:32:20.635
HE THIS IS A THIRTY EIGHT A TO
01:32:20.701 --> 01:32:21.302
ACCEPT THE AMENDMENTS.
01:32:21.369 --> 01:32:23.104
YES THANK YOU.
01:32:23.170 --> 01:32:25.473
JUST VERY BRIEFLY ARE I KNOW YOU
01:32:25.539 --> 01:32:27.308
KNOW THIS WAS CHAIRED.
01:32:27.375 --> 01:32:29.944
IT'S COMMITTEE CERTAINLY SEEMS A
01:32:30.011 --> 01:32:31.345
SO AND SO OBERNOLTE IS AN EXPERT
01:32:31.412 --> 01:32:32.647
SO MUCH OF THIS.
01:32:32.713 --> 01:32:34.382
LOOK WE WOULD THE WORLD IS
01:32:34.448 --> 01:32:35.449
CHANGING AT A AT A BREAKNECK
01:32:35.516 --> 01:32:36.050
SPEED.
01:32:36.117 --> 01:32:37.051
AND ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT
01:32:37.118 --> 01:32:38.152
WE FACE AND GOVERNMENT IS WE
01:32:38.219 --> 01:32:39.654
JUST DON'T HARMONIZE WITH EACH
01:32:39.720 --> 01:32:41.856
THAT CHANGE WE'RE REACTIVE
01:32:41.923 --> 01:32:44.325
ORGANIZATION.
01:32:44.392 --> 01:32:45.693
BUT IT'S SOMETHING LIKE THE TOP
01:32:45.760 --> 01:32:46.928
OF THE FOOT CENTEX TOP FIFTY
01:32:46.994 --> 01:32:49.063
COMPANIES ELEVEN OF THOSE.
01:32:49.130 --> 01:32:50.965
UNDER FORBES' LIST ARE
01:32:51.032 --> 01:32:52.366
BLOCKCHAIN COMPANIES.
01:32:52.433 --> 01:32:53.167
THEN WE GENERALLY LOOK AT
01:32:53.234 --> 01:32:55.770
BLOCKCHAIN IN WE HEAR THE TERM
01:32:55.836 --> 01:32:57.305
AND WE ONLY ASSOCIATE IT WITH
01:32:57.371 --> 01:32:59.040
THE IDEA.
01:32:59.106 --> 01:33:02.843
OF OF OF BUT A BIT COINS AND
01:33:02.910 --> 01:33:04.545
IT'S NOT THAT AT ALL.
01:33:04.612 --> 01:33:06.380
ITS AWAY TO REORGANIZE SOME OF
01:33:06.447 --> 01:33:08.049
THE CHALLENGES THAT WE FACE WITH
01:33:08.115 --> 01:33:10.284
THE INTERNET.
01:33:10.351 --> 01:33:11.285
WHAT DOES THE INTERNET IT IN
01:33:11.352 --> 01:33:13.721
THIS PROVIDE EXPLOSIVELY
01:33:13.788 --> 01:33:15.256
VALUABLE?
01:33:15.323 --> 01:33:18.092
AT THAT ASPECTS TO OUR LIVES ALL
01:33:18.159 --> 01:33:19.360
ACROSS THE WORLD PEOPLE IN
01:33:19.427 --> 01:33:20.962
COUNTRIES THAT COULDN'T GET
01:33:21.028 --> 01:33:22.096
ACCESS TO STUFF.
01:33:22.163 --> 01:33:25.132
HAVE SWITCHED UNBELIEVABLE AND
01:33:25.199 --> 01:33:26.100
CERTAINLY THIS COMMITTEE JUST
01:33:26.167 --> 01:33:26.867
OUT WITH THE ISSUE OF PRIVACY
01:33:26.934 --> 01:33:29.103
SHORN THE CHALLENGES IMPOSED BY
01:33:29.170 --> 01:33:30.404
THE INTERNET.
01:33:30.471 --> 01:33:31.906
BUT IN ADDITION TO THE PRIVACY
01:33:31.973 --> 01:33:33.474
ISSUE WITH THE UNDERLYING ISSUE
01:33:33.541 --> 01:33:34.442
SECURITY.
01:33:34.508 --> 01:33:36.777
WHAT THE BLOCKCHAIN DOES IF YOU
01:33:36.844 --> 01:33:38.379
HAVE ENOUGH ENERGY IT'LL IT
01:33:38.446 --> 01:33:40.114
BASICALLY WILL BE ORGANIZES HOW
01:33:40.181 --> 01:33:42.717
THE INTERNET INFORMATION?
01:33:42.783 --> 01:33:46.620
ARE IS IS IS BE ACCESS SINCE IN
01:33:46.687 --> 01:33:48.189
THE SIMPLEST TERMS IF YOU HAVE A
01:33:48.255 --> 01:33:49.957
BLOCK OF INFORMATION EACH BLOCK
01:33:50.024 --> 01:33:51.759
OF INFORMATION IS STAMPED IN
01:33:51.826 --> 01:33:52.526
TIME.
01:33:52.593 --> 01:33:54.362
WITH UNIQUE TIME STAMP EACH JUST
01:33:54.428 --> 01:33:55.997
PARTICULARLY STAMP OF THAT
01:33:56.063 --> 01:33:57.698
PARTICULAR CODE.
01:33:57.765 --> 01:33:59.066
AND THEN EACH TASK IS TO IS
01:33:59.133 --> 01:34:00.234
CODED TO THE PIECE OF
01:34:00.301 --> 01:34:01.769
INFORMATION BEFORE.
01:34:01.836 --> 01:34:03.270
AND AFTER IT.
01:34:03.337 --> 01:34:04.071
SO IT'S I WOULDN'T SAY IT'S
01:34:04.138 --> 01:34:05.940
IMPOSSIBLE BECAUSE THERE'S YOU
01:34:06.007 --> 01:34:06.741
KNOW I THINK SOMEHOW IN THE
01:34:06.807 --> 01:34:07.541
FUTURE.
01:34:07.608 --> 01:34:08.876
BUT IT CERTAINLY PROVIDES AN
01:34:08.943 --> 01:34:11.545
EXTRAORDINARY LEVEL OF SECURITY
01:34:11.612 --> 01:34:13.547
THAT WE DON'T OTHERWISE HAVE.
01:34:13.614 --> 01:34:16.050
SECOND IS STILL OUT THERE BUT
01:34:16.117 --> 01:34:17.051
I'VE BEEN KNOWN TO LIVE ON THE
01:34:17.118 --> 01:34:18.953
MOON ONCE IN AWHILE --
01:34:19.020 --> 01:34:20.521
I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A BIG
01:34:20.588 --> 01:34:22.656
STEP FORWARD TOWARD [inaudible]
01:34:22.723 --> 01:34:24.892
DEMOCRATIZATION ECONOMIC
01:34:24.959 --> 01:34:27.028
OPPORTUNITY IN THE INTERNET
01:34:27.094 --> 01:34:28.262
WHAT'S HAPPENED THE INTERNET
01:34:28.329 --> 01:34:29.964
HANDFUL OF PEOPLE BEEN ABLE TO
01:34:30.031 --> 01:34:31.632
MAKE SO MUCH MONEY.
01:34:31.699 --> 01:34:33.734
BILLIONS AND BILLIONS AND TENS
01:34:33.801 --> 01:34:35.036
OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WATCH
01:34:35.102 --> 01:34:36.337
BECAUSE THEY'RE CONTROLLING THE
01:34:36.404 --> 01:34:37.338
ADVERTISING A CONTROLLING IS A
01:34:37.405 --> 01:34:38.572
UNITED BALLS.
01:34:38.639 --> 01:34:39.540
THE AVERAGE PERSON DOESN'T GET A
01:34:39.607 --> 01:34:41.208
PIECE OF THAT.
01:34:41.275 --> 01:34:42.243
SO I THINK WHAT'S GOING TO
01:34:42.309 --> 01:34:43.778
HAPPEN WITH BLOCKCHAIN THE
01:34:43.844 --> 01:34:45.146
NOTION IS CALLED TOKENIZATION
01:34:45.212 --> 01:34:46.714
BUT BASICALLY YOU'RE GOING TO BE
01:34:46.781 --> 01:34:47.815
ABLE TO GET PAID FOR DISLIKING
01:34:47.882 --> 01:34:49.683
IT REWARDS POINTS FOR USING YOUR
01:34:49.750 --> 01:34:51.919
CREDIT CARD OR MILEAGE A SUBJECT
01:34:51.986 --> 01:34:52.319
THAT.
01:34:52.386 --> 01:34:53.421
YOU CAN SEE A SIMILAR SYSTEM IS
01:34:53.487 --> 01:34:54.021
STARTING TO HAPPEN AROUND THE
01:34:54.088 --> 01:34:56.557
COUNTRY AND THE BLOCKCHAIN WILL
01:34:56.624 --> 01:34:57.691
ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN.
01:34:57.758 --> 01:34:58.292
SO WHAT HAVE I DONE WITH THIS
01:34:58.359 --> 01:34:59.760
BILL.
01:34:59.827 --> 01:35:02.096
TRYING TO INTRODUCE THIS VERY
01:35:02.163 --> 01:35:04.598
COMPLEX CONCEPT INTO GOVERNMENT.
01:35:04.665 --> 01:35:06.967
I TRIED TO INTRODUCE IT WITH A
01:35:07.034 --> 01:35:08.702
LIKE THAT YOU WITH WITH TITLE.
01:35:08.769 --> 01:35:10.304
A I MET WITH AMBASSADOR TO
01:35:10.371 --> 01:35:11.872
VANUATU AND HE'S DOING ALL THIS
01:35:11.939 --> 01:35:13.307
TITLE ON BLOCKCHAIN.
01:35:13.374 --> 01:35:15.042
BUT HERE WE'VE GOT INTEREST
01:35:15.109 --> 01:35:16.077
ENTRENCHED INTERESTS AND IS NO
01:35:16.143 --> 01:35:16.744
WAY BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA KILL OFF
01:35:16.811 --> 01:35:19.013
THE TITLE INSURANCE COMPANIES IF
01:35:19.080 --> 01:35:19.647
WE DO THAT BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT
01:35:19.713 --> 01:35:20.881
GONNA NEED A TITLE INSURANCE
01:35:20.948 --> 01:35:22.683
COMPANY PAY FOR INSURANCE.
01:35:22.750 --> 01:35:23.684
I TRIED TO DO IT WOULD DRIVERS
01:35:23.751 --> 01:35:25.319
LICENSES AND BIRTH CERTIFICATES
01:35:25.386 --> 01:35:26.620
BUT I GOT ALL THE BLOWBACK FROM
01:35:26.687 --> 01:35:28.089
GOVERNMENT TELLING ME HOW HARD
01:35:28.155 --> 01:35:29.824
IT'S GOING TO BE.
01:35:29.890 --> 01:35:31.158
SO HOW DO I STICK MY TOE IN THE
01:35:31.225 --> 01:35:32.760
WATER ON BLOCKCHAIN TO BEGIN THE
01:35:32.827 --> 01:35:33.994
INTERVIEWS IN THE CONVERSATION
01:35:34.061 --> 01:35:36.297
IN THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS.
01:35:36.363 --> 01:35:37.698
AND SO WHAT I DID IN THIS BILL
01:35:37.765 --> 01:35:39.400
WAS ALLOW.
01:35:39.467 --> 01:35:41.569
COMPANIES TO ARE ON THEIR
01:35:41.635 --> 01:35:43.671
PRIVATE COMPANIES TO ORGANIZE
01:35:43.737 --> 01:35:45.172
THEIR THEIR STOCK LEDGERS WITH A
01:35:45.239 --> 01:35:47.141
BLOCKCHAIN.
01:35:47.208 --> 01:35:48.976
PRETTY SMALL DEAL THE WISE AND
01:35:49.043 --> 01:35:50.311
IMPORTANT AND ADD THE HOW DOES
01:35:50.377 --> 01:35:52.113
THAT HAVE AN ACTUAL GOVERNMENT
01:35:52.179 --> 01:35:53.714
PURPOSE TODAY I GIVE YOU TWO
01:35:53.781 --> 01:35:54.915
EXAMPLES ARE CLOSE.
01:35:54.982 --> 01:35:56.250
COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WE HAD THE
01:35:56.317 --> 01:35:57.651
TREASURER'S OFFICE HAD A
01:35:57.718 --> 01:35:59.420
SITUATION WHERE SOMEBODY.
01:35:59.487 --> 01:36:00.888
HAD SOME BOND MONEY IN SAN
01:36:00.955 --> 01:36:02.189
FRANCISCO I CAN'T RECALL THE
01:36:02.256 --> 01:36:03.691
SPECIFICS IS PROBABLY IN MY
01:36:03.757 --> 01:36:04.625
NOTES BUT AND WE LOOK AT MY
01:36:04.692 --> 01:36:05.926
NOTES VERY OFTEN.
01:36:05.993 --> 01:36:07.995
BUT BASICALLY SAYS THAT RIPPED
01:36:08.062 --> 01:36:10.331
OFF A SOME DUMB DEAL BY FOR BY
01:36:10.397 --> 01:36:12.433
FORMING A PARALLEL ACCOUNT. FOR
01:36:12.500 --> 01:36:13.434
THOSE WHO NO WHO WHO BEEN
01:36:13.501 --> 01:36:14.435
LAWYERS YOU KNOW WHO'VE BEEN
01:36:14.502 --> 01:36:16.370
BUSINESS KNOW THAT WHAT HAPPENS
01:36:16.437 --> 01:36:17.538
IF YOU OPEN THE COUNT IT'S
01:36:17.605 --> 01:36:18.906
ASSUME YOU'VE GOT.
01:36:18.973 --> 01:36:20.875
AT CHAO INCORPORATED COMPANY AS
01:36:20.941 --> 01:36:22.743
ALL SOMEBODY AND YOU GOT TWENTY
01:36:22.810 --> 01:36:24.044
CHECKS COMING IN A DAY IF
01:36:24.111 --> 01:36:24.612
SOMEBODY'S TWENTY ROOM PLOYS
01:36:24.678 --> 01:36:25.980
WANTS TO RIP YOU OFF.
01:36:26.046 --> 01:36:27.348
THEY SIMPLY TAKE THE ARTICLES OF
01:36:27.414 --> 01:36:30.518
INCORPORATION TO THE A A
01:36:30.584 --> 01:36:31.552
UNANIMOUS WRITTEN CONSENT OR
01:36:31.619 --> 01:36:32.753
RESOLUTION SAYING YOU'RE
01:36:32.820 --> 01:36:35.189
AUTHORIZED TO SAY HAVE HERTZBERG
01:36:35.256 --> 01:36:36.690
SIGN IN THE ACCOUNT I OPEN UP A
01:36:36.757 --> 01:36:38.359
PARALLEL ACCOUNT.
01:36:38.425 --> 01:36:40.027
AND THEN I TAKE A STEEL CHECKS
01:36:40.094 --> 01:36:41.762
FROM THE A CHAO COMPANY AND I
01:36:41.829 --> 01:36:43.130
PUT IT IN THE PARALLEL ACCOUNT.
01:36:43.197 --> 01:36:45.232
WELL IF YOU HAD IT AS WE ASK FOR
01:36:45.299 --> 01:36:48.269
IN THIS BILL A A A A A A
01:36:48.335 --> 01:36:49.637
STATEMENT ARE IF YOU'RE ELECTED
01:36:49.703 --> 01:36:51.071
TO DO BLOCKCHAIN YET A STATEMENT
01:36:51.138 --> 01:36:52.273
ON THE ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION
01:36:52.339 --> 01:36:53.440
WHEN YOU WENT TO THAT BANK.
01:36:53.507 --> 01:36:55.743
YOU ASKED THAT BANK.
01:36:55.809 --> 01:36:57.511
BOMB TO OPEN ACCOUNT THEY WOULD
01:36:57.578 --> 01:36:58.913
SAY WILL YOU SHAREHOLDER WHICH
01:36:58.979 --> 01:37:00.681
SHOWS THAT WE'RE LEDGER YOU
01:37:00.748 --> 01:37:01.315
COULDN'T TELL ME THAT YOU COULD
01:37:01.382 --> 01:37:02.950
TAKE A STOCK CERTIFICATE OF THE
01:37:03.017 --> 01:37:04.185
BACK OF THE BOOK AND STEEL.
01:37:04.251 --> 01:37:05.986
AND PHONY IT UP AND USE A SEAL
01:37:06.053 --> 01:37:07.788
AND MAKE A PHONY CERTIFICATE.
01:37:07.855 --> 01:37:09.290
THIS BASICALLY HAS SOME VALUE IN
01:37:09.356 --> 01:37:11.759
THAT RESPECT SECONDLY THERE WAS
01:37:11.825 --> 01:37:14.428
COMPANY ORANGE COUNTY LIVES IN
01:37:14.495 --> 01:37:15.029
IRVINE OR TESTING THE CHEMICAL
01:37:15.095 --> 01:37:16.564
SPILL.
01:37:16.630 --> 01:37:17.231
IT'S BUT IT'S IN THE NOTES
01:37:17.298 --> 01:37:17.865
SOMEWHERE IN THE ANALYSIS OF AND
01:37:17.932 --> 01:37:18.699
BASICALLY WHAT THEY WERE DOING
01:37:18.766 --> 01:37:19.967
WAS PHONING UP STOCK SHARE
01:37:20.034 --> 01:37:20.568
CERTIFICATES AND SELLING PHONE
01:37:20.634 --> 01:37:21.368
SHARES.
01:37:21.435 --> 01:37:22.236
A SAME KIND OF THING YOU
01:37:22.303 --> 01:37:23.237
WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO WITH THE
01:37:23.304 --> 01:37:24.438
COMPANY'S ROSE --
01:37:24.505 --> 01:37:26.340
DE DID THAT SO IT DOES HAVE SOME
01:37:26.407 --> 01:37:28.375
NEAR TERM BENEFITS IT WAS IN MY
01:37:28.442 --> 01:37:30.177
JUDGMENT THE LEAST INTRUSIVE
01:37:30.244 --> 01:37:31.345
MANNER.
01:37:31.412 --> 01:37:32.446
IN WHICH WE COULD BEGIN TO
01:37:32.513 --> 01:37:34.215
INTRODUCE THIS CONCEPT INTO
01:37:34.281 --> 01:37:35.349
GOVERNMENT.
01:37:35.416 --> 01:37:37.117
AND WITH THAT I TOOK OVER MY
01:37:37.184 --> 01:37:39.653
HANDSOME WITNESS WHO'S GONNA.
01:37:39.720 --> 01:37:42.323
BLAIR SOCKS OFF THANK YOU VERY
01:37:42.389 --> 01:37:43.657
MUCH OFFICE WHEN AS WE THANK IS
01:37:43.724 --> 01:37:44.592
CENTER HERTZBERG --
01:37:44.658 --> 01:37:45.926
GOOD MORNING COMMITTEE THANKS
01:37:45.993 --> 01:37:47.228
FOR HAVING ME I'M JOSEPH CORRAL
01:37:47.294 --> 01:37:48.062
AND I'M THE FOUNDER OF CAGE
01:37:48.128 --> 01:37:48.896
CHAIN.
01:37:48.963 --> 01:37:50.598
CAGE CHAIN IS A CRYPTOCURRENCY
01:37:50.664 --> 01:37:51.732
IN BLOCKCHAIN TECHNOLOGY
01:37:51.799 --> 01:37:53.934
RESEARCH FIRM.
01:37:54.001 --> 01:37:55.669
AND I'M ALSO HERE REPRESENTING
01:37:55.736 --> 01:37:56.904
THE BLOCKCHAIN ADVOCACY
01:37:56.971 --> 01:37:58.973
COALITION.
01:37:59.039 --> 01:38:01.375
I AM A FORMERLY FULLY REGISTERED
01:38:01.442 --> 01:38:03.344
IN A REGISTERED INVESTMENT
01:38:03.410 --> 01:38:04.445
ADVISER AND TRADER.
01:38:04.511 --> 01:38:06.647
I HAVE EARNED AN ADVANCED DEGREE
01:38:06.714 --> 01:38:08.415
IN BUSINESS WHEN I BEGAN
01:38:08.482 --> 01:38:10.284
RESEARCHING WATCHING TECHNOLOGY
01:38:10.351 --> 01:38:12.820
IN CRYPTO CURRENCIES.
01:38:12.886 --> 01:38:14.755
I HAVE AUTHORED A PAPER ON THE
01:38:14.822 --> 01:38:16.523
SUBJECTS AS WELL BEFORE STARTING
01:38:16.590 --> 01:38:19.193
THE CONSULTANCY CAGE CHAIN.
01:38:19.260 --> 01:38:21.595
I HAVE HEARD ABOUT QUESTIONS YOU
01:38:21.662 --> 01:38:24.698
ALL HAVE REGARDING SENATE BILL.
01:38:24.765 --> 01:38:25.566
EIGHT THREE EIGHT A BLOCKCHAIN
01:38:25.633 --> 01:38:28.002
IS A DIGITAL LEDGER TOOL THAT
01:38:28.068 --> 01:38:29.837
ENABLES DATA TO BE STORED OR
01:38:29.903 --> 01:38:32.106
TRANSFERRED SECURITY USING
01:38:32.172 --> 01:38:34.375
SECURELY USING BANK GRADE
01:38:34.441 --> 01:38:36.810
SECURITY.
01:38:36.877 --> 01:38:39.280
I AM IN SUPPORT OF THIS BILL AS
01:38:39.346 --> 01:38:41.081
IT ALLOWS BUSINESSES TO GROW AND
01:38:41.148 --> 01:38:42.483
DEVELOP IN AN INNOVATIVE WAY
01:38:42.549 --> 01:38:44.551
USING BLOCKCHAIN TECHNOLOGY AND
01:38:44.618 --> 01:38:45.719
ITS SECURITY AND VERIFICATION
01:38:45.786 --> 01:38:48.555
FEATURES.
01:38:48.622 --> 01:38:50.624
THIS BILL WILL ALSO ALLOW JOBS
01:38:50.691 --> 01:38:51.992
TO BE CREATED AND FORM A NEW
01:38:52.059 --> 01:38:53.794
SOURCE OF TAX REVENUE FOR THE
01:38:53.861 --> 01:38:56.196
STATE OF CALIFORNIA --
01:38:56.263 --> 01:38:58.065
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND I
01:38:58.132 --> 01:38:59.767
LOOK FORWARD TO ANY QUESTIONS
01:38:59.833 --> 01:39:01.068
YOU MAY HAVE THEY GRAVITY THANK
01:39:01.135 --> 01:39:01.769
YOU MUCH.
01:39:01.835 --> 01:39:03.103
ADDITIONAL SUPPORTERS UP PLEASE
01:39:03.170 --> 01:39:05.272
COME FORWARD.
01:39:05.339 --> 01:39:08.075
SEEN AN OPPOSITION.
01:39:08.142 --> 01:39:09.410
SEEING NINE LET'S BRING BACK TO
01:39:09.476 --> 01:39:10.144
THERE COMMITTEE QUESTIONS
01:39:10.210 --> 01:39:12.646
COMMENTS.
01:39:12.713 --> 01:39:13.614
STILL DOES BEEN MOVED AND
01:39:13.681 --> 01:39:15.416
SECONDED.
01:39:15.482 --> 01:39:18.085
NO ADDITIONAL COMMENTS AYE AYE.
01:39:18.152 --> 01:39:19.353
I WON I WON I THINK YOU ARE
01:39:19.420 --> 01:39:20.921
SENATOR HERTZBERG FOR BRINGING
01:39:20.988 --> 01:39:22.089
THIS BILL FORWARD.
01:39:22.156 --> 01:39:23.691
TO I I AGREE WITH YOU THAT --
01:39:23.757 --> 01:39:24.858
BLOCKCHAIN --
01:39:24.925 --> 01:39:26.994
IS -- HAS A
01:39:27.061 --> 01:39:28.562
LOT OF POTENTIAL THOSE THAT WILL
01:39:28.629 --> 01:39:31.198
HELP UP PROTECT CONSUMER PRIVACY
01:39:31.265 --> 01:39:33.400
AS WELL AS SECURITY.
01:39:33.467 --> 01:39:34.468
AND I KNOW I KNOW THAT OTHER
01:39:34.535 --> 01:39:36.670
STATES HAVE --
01:39:36.737 --> 01:39:38.539
USING BLOCKCHAIN TECHNOLOGY IN
01:39:38.605 --> 01:39:39.940
VARIOUS ASPECTS I THINK YOU
01:39:40.007 --> 01:39:41.542
MENTIONED A COUPLE OF ALREADY.
01:39:41.608 --> 01:39:43.210
OF FOR EXAMPLE A DRIVERS SO
01:39:43.277 --> 01:39:45.346
REGISTRATION AND I THINK THE
01:39:45.412 --> 01:39:46.680
STATE OF WEST VIRGINIA IS
01:39:46.747 --> 01:39:47.848
LOOKING MONNING.
01:39:47.915 --> 01:39:49.249
YEAH ACTUALLY VOTING ABSOLUTELY
01:39:49.316 --> 01:39:52.286
SO I I THINK IT HAS A GREAT DEAL
01:39:52.353 --> 01:39:53.620
OF POTENTIAL.
01:39:53.687 --> 01:39:54.588
AND YOU KNOW DO YOU THINK THAT I
01:39:54.655 --> 01:39:55.189
WAS THINKING ABOUT WAS WHETHER
01:39:55.255 --> 01:39:57.591
OR NOT OF BLOCKCHAIN COULD
01:39:57.658 --> 01:39:59.059
POTENTIALLY BE USED TO COMBAT
01:39:59.126 --> 01:40:00.427
THE RAND SOMEWHERE I KNOW YOU
01:40:00.494 --> 01:40:02.363
WORKED ON THAT AS WELL.
01:40:02.429 --> 01:40:04.465
AND ON THE HILL CURRENTLY I
01:40:04.531 --> 01:40:05.366
THINK --
01:40:05.432 --> 01:40:07.334
WE'RE AT THE MERCY OF THESE --
01:40:07.401 --> 01:40:09.069
ALL OF THESE TO THESE --
01:40:09.136 --> 01:40:11.038
FIRST HOW PERPETRATORS IN
01:40:11.105 --> 01:40:13.540
INNOCENCE WHEN WHEN --
01:40:13.607 --> 01:40:15.142
BUSINESSES HIT WITH RANSOM WHERE
01:40:15.209 --> 01:40:17.010
THERE'S NO NO REMEDY I MEAN I
01:40:17.077 --> 01:40:18.212
THINK.
01:40:18.278 --> 01:40:19.146
ALL HE COULD DO IS TO GO BACK TO
01:40:19.213 --> 01:40:20.214
THE LAST THE VISION OF THE BACK
01:40:20.280 --> 01:40:20.981
UP.
01:40:21.048 --> 01:40:23.417
AND GENERALLY SPEAKING THERE YOU
01:40:23.484 --> 01:40:24.752
KNOW THE BACK OF HIS GOOD AS THE
01:40:24.818 --> 01:40:26.587
LAS BACK UP SO DEPENDING ON WHEN
01:40:26.653 --> 01:40:27.955
THE TO THE BACKUP SO.
01:40:28.021 --> 01:40:29.656
SO YOU KNOW HOSPITALS ARE BEING
01:40:29.723 --> 01:40:31.625
YOU KNOW.
01:40:31.692 --> 01:40:33.360
WHAT FALLING VICTIMS TO RANSOM
01:40:33.427 --> 01:40:34.862
WEARING ON THAT SO SO THIS IS
01:40:34.928 --> 01:40:36.563
POTENTIALLY A A --
01:40:36.630 --> 01:40:37.731
SOMETHING THAT WE COULD USE TO
01:40:37.798 --> 01:40:39.166
COMBAT RANSOMWARE SOME AND I'M
01:40:39.233 --> 01:40:41.034
VERY EXCITED ABOUT --
01:40:41.101 --> 01:40:43.737
MISTER CALDERON SPILL ALSO
01:40:43.804 --> 01:40:45.506
TWENTY SIX LOOK AT IT STUDY SO
01:40:45.572 --> 01:40:47.107
THAT WILL TELL US EXACTLY HOW
01:40:47.174 --> 01:40:49.209
THE TECHNOLOGY CAN BE USED.
01:40:49.276 --> 01:40:52.045
SO SO I'M VERY EXCITED THAT TO
01:40:52.112 --> 01:40:54.014
CEASE IS TO THE YOU KNOW THE TO
01:40:54.081 --> 01:40:55.115
PUT CALIFORNIA AHEAD OF THE
01:40:55.182 --> 01:40:57.451
CURVE HOUSE ALSO.
01:40:57.518 --> 01:40:58.452
DISCOVER.
01:40:58.519 --> 01:40:59.253
AND I JUST WANNA SAY THAT YOU
01:40:59.319 --> 01:40:59.820
FOR THE BILL AND I'M GLAD
01:40:59.887 --> 01:41:01.121
WORKING TOGETHER ON THIS ISSUE
01:41:01.188 --> 01:41:01.789
IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT ISSUE MEAN
01:41:01.855 --> 01:41:02.856
JUST TO TO WILL THAT BE ABLE TO
01:41:02.923 --> 01:41:04.425
FRAME THE CONVERSATION IS THAT.
01:41:04.491 --> 01:41:05.259
A LOT OF THESE COMPANIES THAT
01:41:05.325 --> 01:41:06.160
ARE ALREADY HERE IN CALIFORNIA
01:41:06.226 --> 01:41:07.761
THAT ARE DOING BLOCKCHAIN THEY
01:41:07.828 --> 01:41:09.029
DON'T HAVE CERTAINTY BECAUSE
01:41:09.096 --> 01:41:09.930
THERE'S A LACK OF REGULATION
01:41:09.997 --> 01:41:11.932
REGULATION AND THEY'RE TERRIFIED
01:41:11.999 --> 01:41:12.566
OF WHAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
01:41:12.633 --> 01:41:13.233
WILL.
01:41:13.300 --> 01:41:14.835
UP OR WILL NOT DO AND SO THEY
01:41:14.902 --> 01:41:16.603
WANT US AS A STATE TO REGULATE
01:41:16.670 --> 01:41:18.005
THEM TO CREATE SOME DEFINITIONS
01:41:18.071 --> 01:41:19.139
THAT ALLOWS THEM THE ABILITY TO
01:41:19.206 --> 01:41:20.474
KIND OF DO THEIR WORK THEIR
01:41:20.541 --> 01:41:21.642
OTHER STATES --
01:41:21.708 --> 01:41:23.410
THAT HAVE DONE SOME DEFINITIONAL
01:41:23.477 --> 01:41:26.413
WORK ON ON A BLOCKCHAIN IN AND
01:41:26.480 --> 01:41:27.681
THE TECHNOLOGY AND THESE
01:41:27.748 --> 01:41:29.383
COMPANIES HAVE GONE THERE AND
01:41:29.450 --> 01:41:30.250
OPENED UP.
01:41:30.317 --> 01:41:32.519
YOU KNOW DOING THINGS AND
01:41:32.586 --> 01:41:34.154
FARMING COUNTRIES INTO FARMING
01:41:34.221 --> 01:41:34.822
COMES FARMING ESTATE OF FARMING
01:41:34.888 --> 01:41:36.723
COMMUNITIES AND SO THIS IS A
01:41:36.790 --> 01:41:38.125
HUGE OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR STATE
01:41:38.192 --> 01:41:38.892
THAT IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING
01:41:38.959 --> 01:41:40.727
NOW WE DON'T DO SOMETHING. TO TO
01:41:40.794 --> 01:41:42.262
ALLOW THESE COMPANIES TO WORK
01:41:42.329 --> 01:41:43.497
WITH SOME TYPE OF ABILITY TO
01:41:43.564 --> 01:41:45.232
FEEL -- LESS
01:41:45.299 --> 01:41:45.999
STRESSED THAT THE FEDERAL
01:41:46.066 --> 01:41:46.900
GOVERNMENT CAN DO SOME BECAUSE
01:41:46.967 --> 01:41:48.168
THERE'S THERE IS STATE
01:41:48.235 --> 01:41:48.902
REGULATION THEIR STATE
01:41:48.969 --> 01:41:50.404
DEFINITIONS AYE IT'S A HUGE
01:41:50.471 --> 01:41:51.505
OPPORTUNITY FOR THE STATE OF
01:41:51.572 --> 01:41:52.639
CALIFORNIA AND THIS IS THE TYPE
01:41:52.706 --> 01:41:54.508
OF TECHNOLOGY THAT CAN ALLOW US
01:41:54.575 --> 01:41:54.775
ONE DAY.
01:41:54.842 --> 01:41:56.477
BOTH FROM OUR CELLPHONES WHICH
01:41:56.543 --> 01:41:57.911
IS GOING TO BE SEVERAL INCREASED
01:41:57.978 --> 01:41:58.679
TURNED OUT I KNOW THE SECRETARY
01:41:58.745 --> 01:42:00.047
STATES ACTUALLY WORKING ON THIS
01:42:00.113 --> 01:42:01.048
ISSUE RIGHT NOW --
01:42:01.114 --> 01:42:03.784
AND SO IT'S A IT'S A HUGE
01:42:03.851 --> 01:42:06.487
OPPORTUNITY THAT BEING A REPORT
01:42:06.553 --> 01:42:08.288
ON THE ISSUE.
01:42:08.355 --> 01:42:09.356
SO WITH THAT CENTER WHICH LIKE
01:42:09.423 --> 01:42:11.625
TO CLOSE.
01:42:11.692 --> 01:42:12.926
IT DOESN'T ACCOUNT IS A HUGE
01:42:12.993 --> 01:42:14.027
ISSUE IT'S IT AND MISTER
01:42:14.094 --> 01:42:15.996
CHAIRMAN IT'S UNBELIEVABLE
01:42:16.063 --> 01:42:17.564
ESTONIA IS DOING INCREDIBLE
01:42:17.631 --> 01:42:18.599
THINGS.
01:42:18.665 --> 01:42:20.701
BUT THAT BEST VIRGINIA'S VOTING
01:42:20.767 --> 01:42:21.568
ONLY OCCURRED BECAUSE BRADLEY
01:42:21.635 --> 01:42:24.638
TASK WAS THE CAMPAIGN PERSON.
01:42:24.705 --> 01:42:26.106
FOR MAYOR BLOOMBERG I ACTUALLY
01:42:26.173 --> 01:42:27.307
PAID FOR A LOT OF THE SYSTEM
01:42:27.374 --> 01:42:29.443
SELF IN AND IT'S A GREAT
01:42:29.510 --> 01:42:31.144
CHALLENGE IT'S HARD FOR US. TO
01:42:31.211 --> 01:42:32.579
MODERNIZE IN TO PUSH THE
01:42:32.646 --> 01:42:34.715
ENVELOPE WHO JUST EXPERIENCED IN
01:42:34.781 --> 01:42:35.649
PRIVACY.
01:42:35.716 --> 01:42:37.084
AYE IT WHERE STATUS QUO FOLKS
01:42:37.150 --> 01:42:39.086
SAY WELL YOU KNOW ARE ARE ARE
01:42:39.152 --> 01:42:40.587
ARE HOLDING UP THE SYSTEM AND I
01:42:40.654 --> 01:42:42.122
WAS SURE WITH YOU THAT THIS IS A
01:42:42.189 --> 01:42:43.757
FIRST IN THE MANY STEPS THAT WE
01:42:43.824 --> 01:42:45.526
HAVE TO TAKE.
01:42:45.592 --> 01:42:46.927
IN THE TECHNOLOGY SPACE.
01:42:46.994 --> 01:42:49.663
ALL ACROSS THE BOARD TO TO TO BE
01:42:49.730 --> 01:42:51.064
LEADERS AND I THINK AS MISTER
01:42:51.131 --> 01:42:52.432
CALDERON SUGGESTED THE FEDERAL
01:42:52.499 --> 01:42:53.934
GOVERNMENT'S NOT GOING TO ACT IN
01:42:54.001 --> 01:42:55.669
THE NEAR TERM IS TO CHALLENGING.
01:42:55.736 --> 01:42:56.904
IN THIS IS A PLACE WHERE WE CAN
01:42:56.970 --> 01:42:57.938
BE INCUBATORS AND I WOULD
01:42:58.005 --> 01:43:00.173
SUGGEST THAT CALIFORNIA HAS THE
01:43:00.240 --> 01:43:02.009
OPPORTUNITY. TO BE A A AN
01:43:02.075 --> 01:43:03.877
EXTRAORDINARY DEBATER BECAUSE IF
01:43:03.944 --> 01:43:05.646
WE CAN LEAD ON THE STUFF YOU'RE
01:43:05.712 --> 01:43:07.080
GONNA SEE STATES ALL ACROSS THE
01:43:07.147 --> 01:43:08.181
COUNTRY.
01:43:08.248 --> 01:43:09.216
TAKING THIS ON AND REALLY
01:43:09.283 --> 01:43:10.817
SETTING OF STANDARDS I'M PROUD
01:43:10.884 --> 01:43:12.319
TO BE INVOLVED WITH THIS AND I
01:43:12.386 --> 01:43:14.421
THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND LOOK
01:43:14.488 --> 01:43:15.022
FORWARD TO WORK WITH THE S.
01:43:15.088 --> 01:43:15.522
RIVAL.
01:43:15.589 --> 01:43:18.158
THANK YOU SENATOR WITH THAT --
01:43:18.225 --> 01:43:18.392
LOOK --
01:43:18.458 --> 01:43:19.793
THERE'S BEEN.
01:43:19.860 --> 01:43:22.462
MOTION SECONDED AS WELL SO.
01:43:22.529 --> 01:43:24.197
MADAM SECRETARY RECALL PLEASE
01:43:24.264 --> 01:43:25.265
MOTIONS DAY PASSES MANAGED TO
01:43:25.332 --> 01:43:27.367
THE ASSEMBLY FLOOR CHAO I SHOUT
01:43:27.434 --> 01:43:28.902
HIGH KILEY.
01:43:28.969 --> 01:43:29.503
BAKER.
01:43:29.570 --> 01:43:31.138
BAKER AYE BERMAN.
01:43:31.204 --> 01:43:32.372
CALDERON.
01:43:32.439 --> 01:43:33.874
CALDERON AYE GABRIEL.
01:43:33.941 --> 01:43:35.442
IRWIN.
01:43:35.509 --> 01:43:37.444
IRWIN AYE MULLIN.
01:43:37.511 --> 01:43:38.879
MULLIN AYE OBERNOLTE.
01:43:38.946 --> 01:43:41.882
OBERNOLTE AYE RAYOS.
01:43:41.949 --> 01:43:44.151
GIVE US ALL SIX ZERO WILLIE THE
01:43:44.217 --> 01:43:50.624
ROLE THANK YOU SENATOR THINGS.
01:43:50.691 --> 01:43:51.692
TO THAT BRINGS US TO THE LAST
01:43:51.758 --> 01:43:53.660
BILL.
01:43:53.727 --> 01:43:56.296
TODAY AND THAT SIR S. B. ELEVEN
01:43:56.363 --> 01:44:05.038
NINETY FOUR SENATOR LARA WELCOME.
01:44:05.105 --> 01:44:06.173
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR AND
01:44:06.239 --> 01:44:07.140
MEMBERS ELECT TO START BY
01:44:07.207 --> 01:44:08.909
ACCEPTING THE AMENDMENTS
01:44:08.976 --> 01:44:10.310
PREFERRED ON PAGE FIVE OF THE
01:44:10.377 --> 01:44:11.712
KAMALA SYSTEM SURE THAT.
01:44:11.778 --> 01:44:13.013
BUSINESSES AND PEACE OFFICERS
01:44:13.080 --> 01:44:14.581
ARE AWARE THAT SUCH.
01:44:14.648 --> 01:44:15.816
DISCLOSURE OF INFORMATION IS
01:44:15.882 --> 01:44:17.150
OPTIONAL IF NO WARRANT
01:44:17.217 --> 01:44:18.919
SUBPOENAED OR COURT ORDER IS
01:44:18.986 --> 01:44:20.954
PROVIDED ORDER IF KNOW --
01:44:21.021 --> 01:44:22.255
INSURGENT CIRCUMSTANCE ARE
01:44:22.322 --> 01:44:24.224
PRESENT SOUGHT THANK YOU FOR
01:44:24.291 --> 01:44:25.626
YOUR WORK ON THAT --
01:44:25.692 --> 01:44:27.694
MEMBERS SB ELEVEN NINETY SEVEN
01:44:27.761 --> 01:44:28.929
SIMPLY ASSURES THAT GAS AND
01:44:28.996 --> 01:44:30.330
PASSENGER RECORDS OF CALIFORNIA
01:44:30.397 --> 01:44:31.565
PATRONS OF LODGING
01:44:31.632 --> 01:44:33.233
ESTABLISHMENTS AND PRIVATE BUS
01:44:33.300 --> 01:44:34.835
COMPANIES ARE NOT DISCLOSED TO
01:44:34.901 --> 01:44:36.370
THIRD PARTIES OR OTHER.
01:44:36.436 --> 01:44:37.704
OTHER THAN A CALIFORNIA PEACE
01:44:37.771 --> 01:44:40.874
OFFICER LEAVING A COURT ORDER
01:44:40.941 --> 01:44:42.542
SUBPOENA OR WARRANT THE BILL
01:44:42.609 --> 01:44:43.877
LANDS OF CALIFORNIA'S
01:44:43.944 --> 01:44:45.312
LONGSTANDING PRIVACY PROTECTIONS
01:44:45.379 --> 01:44:47.114
AND RESPONSE TO RECENT INCIDENTS
01:44:47.180 --> 01:44:48.348
IN NEARBY STATES THAT HIGHLIGHT
01:44:48.415 --> 01:44:50.450
THE NEED. FOR THESE TARGETED
01:44:50.517 --> 01:44:52.719
ADDITIONAL PRIVACY PROTECTIONS I
01:44:52.786 --> 01:44:54.788
RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR AYE VOTE
01:44:54.855 --> 01:44:55.422
THANK YOU VERY MUCH EFFORTS WHEN
01:44:55.489 --> 01:44:55.722
HIS PLEASE.
01:44:55.789 --> 01:44:57.391
I INGRAM LEGISLATIVE ATTORNEY
01:44:57.457 --> 01:44:59.159
WITH THE ACLU OF CALIFORNIA
01:44:59.226 --> 01:45:00.427
WE'RE PLEASED TO CO SPONSOR THIS
01:45:00.494 --> 01:45:01.461
BILL.
01:45:01.528 --> 01:45:02.896
WE THINK IT ADDS TARGETED
01:45:02.963 --> 01:45:04.765
ADDITIONAL PRIVACY PROTECTIONS
01:45:04.831 --> 01:45:06.600
THAT ALIGN WITH CALIFORNIANS IS
01:45:06.667 --> 01:45:07.801
CHRISTINE LA.
01:45:07.868 --> 01:45:09.403
SIMILAR PROTECTIONS OF RD BEEN
01:45:09.469 --> 01:45:10.904
AFFORDED ANOTHER AREAS WE
01:45:10.971 --> 01:45:12.572
CREATED THE READER PRIVACY ACT
01:45:12.639 --> 01:45:14.274
THAT CREATES PRIVACY PROTECTIONS
01:45:14.341 --> 01:45:16.143
AROUND PEOPLE'S READING LESS.
01:45:16.209 --> 01:45:17.310
AND IT JUST KIND OF GO INTO A
01:45:17.377 --> 01:45:18.445
LITTLE MORE DETAIL ABOUT THE
01:45:18.512 --> 01:45:19.813
INCIDENTS THAT SENATOR LARA
01:45:19.880 --> 01:45:21.948
ALLUDES TO IN WASHINGTON STATE
01:45:22.015 --> 01:45:24.017
MOTEL SIX REACH THE PRIVACY OF
01:45:24.084 --> 01:45:25.752
OVER TEN THOUSAND OF THEIR
01:45:25.819 --> 01:45:26.820
GUESTS NAMES.
01:45:26.887 --> 01:45:27.788
AND THEY TURNED THEM OVER TO AYE
01:45:27.854 --> 01:45:29.523
AYES THE NAMES BIRTHDATES
01:45:29.589 --> 01:45:31.258
DRIVER'S LICENSE NUMBERS LICENSE
01:45:31.324 --> 01:45:32.893
PLATE NUMBERS AND ROOM NUMBERS.
01:45:32.959 --> 01:45:35.028
AND ARIZONA THEY WERE GENERATING
01:45:35.095 --> 01:45:36.163
LESS OF EVERYONE THAT WAS
01:45:36.229 --> 01:45:37.831
STAYING IN THE HOTEL EACH NIGHT
01:45:37.898 --> 01:45:39.399
AND SENDING IT OVER TO ICE EVERY
01:45:39.466 --> 01:45:40.534
MORNING.
01:45:40.600 --> 01:45:41.902
AND THIS RESULTED IN PEOPLE
01:45:41.968 --> 01:45:43.370
BEING PICKED UP FROM THEIR ROOMS
01:45:43.437 --> 01:45:45.872
COUPLES SEPARATED ONE DEPORTED
01:45:45.939 --> 01:45:47.507
IMMEDIATELY THE OTHER STYLE AND
01:45:47.574 --> 01:45:48.742
ATTENTION.
01:45:48.809 --> 01:45:50.143
AND THIS WAS ALL DONE DESPITE
01:45:50.210 --> 01:45:51.311
MIDDLESEX HAVING A CORPORATE
01:45:51.378 --> 01:45:53.146
POLICY SAYING THAT.
01:45:53.213 --> 01:45:54.448
THE INFORMATION I GATHERED
01:45:54.514 --> 01:45:56.550
DURING THEIR VISITS --
01:45:56.616 --> 01:45:58.518
WAS TO BE CAP IT AND WE THINK
01:45:58.585 --> 01:46:00.287
THAT THAT IS WHY THESE
01:46:00.353 --> 01:46:01.855
COMMONSENSE PROTECTION SHOULD --
01:46:01.922 --> 01:46:03.023
THE GIVEN TO CALIFORNIA
01:46:03.090 --> 01:46:05.325
CONSUMERS SO WHEN THEY TRAVEL
01:46:05.392 --> 01:46:07.327
THROUGH OUR STATE OR A SPEND A
01:46:07.394 --> 01:46:08.762
NIGHT AND ONE OF OUR HOTELS THE
01:46:08.829 --> 01:46:10.831
INFORMATION IS SAFE AND I
01:46:10.897 --> 01:46:12.365
RESPECTFULLY ASK HERE AYE VOTE.
01:46:12.432 --> 01:46:13.667
THANK YOU MUCH A NEXT WITNESS
01:46:13.734 --> 01:46:14.835
PLEASE GINA D'SILVA GOVERNMENT
01:46:14.901 --> 01:46:15.669
AFFAIRS DIRECTOR OF THE
01:46:15.736 --> 01:46:16.903
CALIFORNIA IMMIGRANT POLICY
01:46:16.970 --> 01:46:18.305
CENTER WE'RE PLEASED TO SUPPORT
01:46:18.371 --> 01:46:19.740
SB.
01:46:19.806 --> 01:46:20.340
ELEVEN NINETY FOUR A WE MUST
01:46:20.407 --> 01:46:21.408
CONTINUE TO ENSURE THAT WE PUT
01:46:21.475 --> 01:46:23.176
IN PLACE PROTECTIONS AGAINST
01:46:23.243 --> 01:46:24.578
THESE EFFORTS TO TEAR APART
01:46:24.644 --> 01:46:26.113
FAMILIES AND DEPORT CALIFORNIANS
01:46:26.179 --> 01:46:27.848
HAVE HELPED SHAPE OUR STATE.
01:46:27.914 --> 01:46:29.216
AND CONTRIBUTE TO THE SUCCESS OF
01:46:29.282 --> 01:46:31.284
OUR ECONOMY AYE WE SEE A GROWING
01:46:31.351 --> 01:46:33.220
NUMBER OF HEADLINES BUT WE ALSO
01:46:33.286 --> 01:46:33.754
HEAR A NUMBER OF COMMUNITY
01:46:33.820 --> 01:46:36.022
STORIES FROM CALIFORNIANS THAT
01:46:36.089 --> 01:46:37.023
SHARE YOU KNOW INCIDENTS OF
01:46:37.090 --> 01:46:38.391
RACIAL PROFILING.
01:46:38.458 --> 01:46:40.727
AND EXTREME FEAR FOR THEMSELVES
01:46:40.794 --> 01:46:42.162
IN THEIR LOVES LOANS
01:46:42.229 --> 01:46:42.462
[inaudible]
01:46:42.529 --> 01:46:44.498
STATE ATTRACT OF LYING TO THE
01:46:44.564 --> 01:46:45.932
PUBLIC OF LYING TO ELECTED
01:46:45.999 --> 01:46:47.467
OFFICIALS AND WE FEEL THAT THESE
01:46:47.534 --> 01:46:48.869
ARE IMPORTANT AND APPROPRIATE
01:46:48.935 --> 01:46:50.504
PRIVACY PROTECTIONS TO REALLY
01:46:50.570 --> 01:46:51.738
ENSURE THAT CALIFORNIANS CAN
01:46:51.805 --> 01:46:53.573
CONTINUE TO PARTICIPATE AND
01:46:53.640 --> 01:46:55.442
ENJOY EVERYDAY LIFE --
01:46:55.509 --> 01:46:56.610
THESE ARE CONSISTENT WITH OUR
01:46:56.676 --> 01:46:58.078
VALUES OUR EFFORTS TO PROTECT
01:46:58.145 --> 01:46:59.279
ALL CALIFORNIANS AND OUR
01:46:59.346 --> 01:47:00.447
RESISTANCE AGAINST THE
01:47:00.514 --> 01:47:01.915
IMPRISONMENT AND DEPORTATION OF
01:47:01.982 --> 01:47:03.717
CALIFORNIANS A CALLER STAY HOME
01:47:03.784 --> 01:47:05.218
WE THINK SENATOR LOTT AFRICAN
01:47:05.285 --> 01:47:06.219
TEAM CHAMPION HE SUFFERED SO
01:47:06.286 --> 01:47:07.053
WHERE DO SUPPORT.
01:47:07.120 --> 01:47:08.622
THANK YOU VERY MUCH ADDITIONAL
01:47:08.688 --> 01:47:10.690
SUPPORTERS.
01:47:10.757 --> 01:47:11.591
IN GERMANY NOT ASIAN AMERICANS
01:47:11.658 --> 01:47:13.927
ADVANCING JUST CALIFORNIA CHUNKS.
01:47:13.994 --> 01:47:17.664
THANK YOU NEXT PLACE.
01:47:17.731 --> 01:47:19.966
YOU ON PARTNERS SO WE HAVE CHU
01:47:20.033 --> 01:47:21.134
LAI AND HERE'S TRUMPS PUTS THEY
01:47:21.201 --> 01:47:23.737
CAN MATCH NEXT PLACE.
01:47:23.804 --> 01:47:24.704
I HAVE ANOTHER NUMBER PERSON THE
01:47:24.771 --> 01:47:26.506
NEXT AND CALIFORNIANS SUPPORT AQ
01:47:26.573 --> 01:47:28.875
AT THE OPPOSITION.
01:47:28.942 --> 01:47:30.477
SEEING NONE LET'S BRING BACK TO
01:47:30.544 --> 01:47:32.078
THE COMMITTEE QUESTIONS COME
01:47:32.145 --> 01:47:32.679
MISS BAKER CA.
01:47:32.746 --> 01:47:34.881
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR AND US
01:47:34.948 --> 01:47:38.919
SENATOR I SUPPORTED A BEFORE
01:47:38.985 --> 01:47:39.653
FIFTY AND SOME OF THE OTHER
01:47:39.719 --> 01:47:41.855
EFFORTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE
01:47:41.922 --> 01:47:44.624
IS DUE PROCESS WHEN --
01:47:44.691 --> 01:47:46.059
FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT COME TO
01:47:46.126 --> 01:47:49.329
THE HOME. TO SCHOOL CAMPUSES TO
01:47:49.396 --> 01:47:51.665
WORKPLACE SETTINGS --
01:47:51.731 --> 01:47:53.900
STORY I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THE
01:47:53.967 --> 01:47:55.602
EMPHASIS YOUR BILL HAS ON JUST
01:47:55.669 --> 01:47:57.170
TRYING TO ENSURE THAT THERE IS
01:47:57.237 --> 01:47:58.171
DUE PROCESS WAS THAT'S HOW I
01:47:58.238 --> 01:47:59.372
READ IT.
01:47:59.439 --> 01:48:02.609
BUT I DO HAVE A CONCERN --
01:48:02.676 --> 01:48:03.710
THAT AYE WONDER IF YOU COULD
01:48:03.777 --> 01:48:05.512
ADDRESS PLEASE ON THOSE THIRD
01:48:05.579 --> 01:48:08.982
PARTIES NOT BEING ICE BUT BEING
01:48:09.049 --> 01:48:10.450
THE FEDERAL MARSHAL.
01:48:10.517 --> 01:48:12.819
BEING US ATTORNEYS BEING FEDERAL
01:48:12.886 --> 01:48:15.522
LAW ENFORCEMENT TASK FORCE THAT --
01:48:15.589 --> 01:48:17.824
ARE WORKING TO CONNECT WITH
01:48:17.891 --> 01:48:21.194
THOSE WHO ARE HUMAN TRAFFICKERS --
01:48:21.261 --> 01:48:22.729
AND PARTICULAR BECAUSE WE TALK
01:48:22.796 --> 01:48:25.332
ABOUT LODGINGS AND BUSES.
01:48:25.398 --> 01:48:28.001
AND HUMAN TRAFFICKING AS YOU
01:48:28.068 --> 01:48:29.302
PROBABLY KNOW IS THE FASTEST
01:48:29.369 --> 01:48:30.503
GROWING CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE THE
01:48:30.570 --> 01:48:32.072
UNITED STATES THE U. S. THAT
01:48:32.138 --> 01:48:33.974
CALIFORNIA HAS THREE OF THE
01:48:34.040 --> 01:48:35.508
FBI'S TOP TEN HUMAN TRAFFICKING
01:48:35.575 --> 01:48:37.410
LOCATIONS --
01:48:37.477 --> 01:48:39.846
TRAFFICKERS UTILIZE HOTELS THEY
01:48:39.913 --> 01:48:42.949
UTILIZE BEST SYSTEMS AND I DON'T
01:48:43.016 --> 01:48:44.484
WANT TO US TO DO ANYTHING
01:48:44.551 --> 01:48:46.419
PERSONALLY THAT IS GOING TO
01:48:46.486 --> 01:48:47.988
CREATE BARRIERS BETWEEN.
01:48:48.054 --> 01:48:49.556
OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT AT THE
01:48:49.623 --> 01:48:51.858
FEDERAL LEVEL AND YOU MAY WANT
01:48:51.925 --> 01:48:53.727
THEM TO BE OTHER THAN ICE. TO BE
01:48:53.793 --> 01:48:57.297
ABLE TO BE PART OF TASK FORCES.
01:48:57.364 --> 01:48:59.065
OR INDEPENDENTLY BE ABLE TO
01:48:59.132 --> 01:49:03.436
FIGHT CRIME THAT IS HAPPENING --
01:49:03.503 --> 01:49:04.404
AND AND THIS BASICALLY IS
01:49:04.471 --> 01:49:06.039
POSSIBLY THE BILL IS POTENTIALLY
01:49:06.106 --> 01:49:09.042
OVERBROAD IF THE GOAL IS TO
01:49:09.109 --> 01:49:12.646
PROHIBIT RAIDS AT HOTELS AND
01:49:12.712 --> 01:49:14.214
BUSES AND AND I AGAIN.
01:49:14.281 --> 01:49:15.515
I HAVE SUPPORTED OUR EFFORTS
01:49:15.582 --> 01:49:17.083
THAT THE LEGISLATURE HAS DONE.
01:49:17.150 --> 01:49:18.818
TO PROVIDE JUST THE ROUNDING UP
01:49:18.885 --> 01:49:20.420
OF OTHERWISE INNOCENT PEOPLE WE
01:49:20.487 --> 01:49:21.121
SHOULD BE FOCUSING ON THOSE
01:49:21.187 --> 01:49:22.822
YOU'RE COMMITTING CRIMES.
01:49:22.889 --> 01:49:24.524
A THEY CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT
01:49:24.591 --> 01:49:25.325
PLEASE BECAUSE THE WAY I READ
01:49:25.392 --> 01:49:27.127
THE BILL IS IT DOES PROHIBIT THE
01:49:27.193 --> 01:49:28.828
ABILITY OF OTHER FEDERAL LAW
01:49:28.895 --> 01:49:31.097
ENFORCEMENT OTHER THAN NICE. TO
01:49:31.164 --> 01:49:33.366
BE ABLE TO CONDUCT THOSE EFFORTS
01:49:33.433 --> 01:49:34.234
AND LAST THEY GO THROUGH A
01:49:34.301 --> 01:49:35.635
CALIFORNIA PEACE OFFICER WHICH
01:49:35.702 --> 01:49:37.370
THEN BURDENS ARE CALIFORNIA LAW
01:49:37.437 --> 01:49:38.438
ENFORCEMENT SYSTEM.
01:49:38.505 --> 01:49:40.040
AND ALMOST FORCES THEM TO HAVE
01:49:40.106 --> 01:49:42.309
TO BE THE ONES TO DO IT CAN YOU
01:49:42.375 --> 01:49:43.410
ADDRESS THAT PLEASE SURE WE CAN
01:49:43.476 --> 01:49:43.777
HAVE.
01:49:43.843 --> 01:49:45.645
ARE ASSUME.
01:49:45.712 --> 01:49:48.148
FOR SO THE DATA THAT'S BEING
01:49:48.214 --> 01:49:50.116
PROTECTED HERE IS THE ACTUAL
01:49:50.183 --> 01:49:52.218
LIKE GAS RESTS --
01:49:52.285 --> 01:49:53.486
GAS RECORD OR THE PASSENGER
01:49:53.553 --> 01:49:54.688
RECORD.
01:49:54.754 --> 01:49:57.157
AND NOT YOU KNOW THE ACTUAL LIKE
01:49:57.223 --> 01:49:59.125
PERSONS SO IT WOULDN'T STOP
01:49:59.192 --> 01:50:00.827
ANYONE FROM --
01:50:00.894 --> 01:50:02.128
EFFECTUATE AN ARREST WARRANT FOR
01:50:02.195 --> 01:50:05.498
AN INDIVIDUAL AND A FEDERAL.
01:50:05.565 --> 01:50:06.933
OFFICER THAT YOU DESCRIBE CAN
01:50:07.000 --> 01:50:08.501
STILL GET THAT GAS RECORD A
01:50:08.568 --> 01:50:10.537
PASSENGER INFORMATION WITH A
01:50:10.603 --> 01:50:12.605
COURT ORDER OR A WARRANT AND
01:50:12.672 --> 01:50:14.040
THEN THE FINAL SECTION OF THE
01:50:14.107 --> 01:50:15.308
BELL HAS AN EXIGENT
01:50:15.375 --> 01:50:16.910
CIRCUMSTANCES --
01:50:16.977 --> 01:50:17.844
WHEN THERE'S A THREAT TO THE
01:50:17.911 --> 01:50:21.314
BODILY CAUSE THEM?
01:50:21.381 --> 01:50:23.149
TO INFORMATION WITHOUT GETTING A
01:50:23.216 --> 01:50:25.652
COURT ORDER OR WARRANT.
01:50:25.719 --> 01:50:28.288
THANK YOU AND AND PRECIOUS
01:50:28.355 --> 01:50:30.156
SENATOR I APPRECIATE THAT.
01:50:30.223 --> 01:50:31.992
MY AGAIN REDIFF AND TELL ME IF
01:50:32.058 --> 01:50:33.994
I'M CORRECT IS THAT WE'RE TRYING
01:50:34.060 --> 01:50:34.260
TO AVOID.
01:50:34.327 --> 01:50:36.563
BASICALLY --
01:50:36.629 --> 01:50:39.733
IMMIGRATION RAIDS AT HOTELS AND
01:50:39.799 --> 01:50:41.034
BUSES AND WE WANT RIGHT BECAUSE
01:50:41.101 --> 01:50:42.268
I I HEARD THE TESTIMONY WAS FROM
01:50:42.335 --> 01:50:43.203
A SUPPORTED WITNESSES.
01:50:43.269 --> 01:50:44.571
THAT THIS IS VERY MUCH WE WE
01:50:44.637 --> 01:50:46.072
WANT TO PROTECT THESE AGENCIES
01:50:46.139 --> 01:50:47.674
HAVE LIED I THINK IT WAS SAID IN
01:50:47.741 --> 01:50:48.675
THAT THEY'RE GOING AFTER PEOPLE
01:50:48.742 --> 01:50:50.310
WERE TRYING TO RESIST.
01:50:50.377 --> 01:50:55.015
AND WE WHY THEN PUT UP ANY
01:50:55.081 --> 01:50:56.449
BARRIERS THAT'S THE GOAL.
01:50:56.516 --> 01:50:58.118
WHY PUT UP ANY BARRIERS BETWEEN
01:50:58.184 --> 01:51:01.121
NON ICE LAW ENFORCEMENT AND EVEN
01:51:01.187 --> 01:51:02.122
KEEP THEM FROM BEING ABLE TO
01:51:02.188 --> 01:51:03.990
WIPE Y. PUT?
01:51:04.057 --> 01:51:05.992
HOOPS THAT THEY HAVE TO NOW JUMP
01:51:06.059 --> 01:51:09.529
THROUGH IN ORDER TO FIGHT CRIME --
01:51:09.596 --> 01:51:11.331
THAT IS OUTSIDE OF AN
01:51:11.398 --> 01:51:14.234
IMMIGRATION POLICY.
01:51:14.300 --> 01:51:16.436
WHY PUT THOSE SHIPS BEFORE THEM
01:51:16.503 --> 01:51:17.670
WHY IS THAT NECESSARY IF THE
01:51:17.737 --> 01:51:19.039
GOAL IS TO BE PROTECTING PEOPLE
01:51:19.105 --> 01:51:21.408
FROM ICE RATES WHICH AGAIN I AM
01:51:21.474 --> 01:51:23.009
VERY SYMPATHETIC?
01:51:23.076 --> 01:51:24.577
TO RIGHT WHAT WATER PROTECTED
01:51:24.644 --> 01:51:27.080
DATA AS AS OUR WITNESSES WAS
01:51:27.147 --> 01:51:30.183
SANE AND WE WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS --
01:51:30.250 --> 01:51:32.218
IS CERTAIN STATES LITERALLY IF
01:51:32.285 --> 01:51:34.421
YOU HAD A SPANISH LAST NAME YOUR
01:51:34.487 --> 01:51:35.588
NAME AUTOMATICALLY GOT ON THE
01:51:35.655 --> 01:51:37.090
LIST AND THEY GOT CENTER ICE.
01:51:37.157 --> 01:51:38.725
I WOULD AND AND THAT'S WHAT
01:51:38.792 --> 01:51:40.026
WE'RE TRYING.
01:51:40.093 --> 01:51:42.195
TO TELL PREVENT I MEAN WE DON'T
01:51:42.262 --> 01:51:43.096
WANNA OBVIOUSLY WANT TO DO
01:51:43.163 --> 01:51:44.464
EVERYTHING WE CAN TO HELP IN THE
01:51:44.531 --> 01:51:46.099
EFFORTS OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING.
01:51:46.166 --> 01:51:47.700
BUT WE FEEL THAT IT'S THE DATA
01:51:47.767 --> 01:51:49.402
THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PROTECT
01:51:49.469 --> 01:51:50.036
HERE AND THAT'S THE GOAL OF THE
01:51:50.103 --> 01:51:51.004
BILL.
01:51:51.071 --> 01:51:52.539
WE WOULD HAVE YOU CONSIDERED
01:51:52.605 --> 01:51:56.042
JUST LIMITING ITS REACH TO ICE.
01:51:56.109 --> 01:51:58.311
INSTEAD OF ALL THIRD PARTY MINT
01:51:58.378 --> 01:52:00.013
BECAUSE THAT IS VERY BROAD.
01:52:00.080 --> 01:52:01.381
I'M AGAIN I'M NOT TRYING TO MEND
01:52:01.448 --> 01:52:02.449
YOUR BILL ON THE FLY IN
01:52:02.515 --> 01:52:03.583
COMMITTING THAT --
01:52:03.650 --> 01:52:04.984
WE YOU KNOW HAVE HAD IS THERE
01:52:05.051 --> 01:52:06.352
REASON WHY YOU HAVE NOT MADE IT
01:52:06.419 --> 01:52:07.253
THAT [inaudible]
01:52:07.320 --> 01:52:09.956
NARROWING SURGICAL.
01:52:10.023 --> 01:52:13.059
MEANWHILE THE BILL IS ALSO FOCUS
01:52:13.126 --> 01:52:14.594
HAS A LOT OF FOCUS ON ICE IT IS
01:52:14.661 --> 01:52:16.896
ALSO JUST --
01:52:16.963 --> 01:52:19.132
GOOD PRIVACY PROTECTION TO LIMIT
01:52:19.199 --> 01:52:20.200
DISCLOSURE OF THIS VERY
01:52:20.266 --> 01:52:21.835
SENSITIVE INFORMATION YOU TURN
01:52:21.901 --> 01:52:22.669
OVER.
01:52:22.735 --> 01:52:24.871
ALLOTTED DATA TO BOOK A HOTEL
01:52:24.938 --> 01:52:26.906
ROOM OR REVOKE --
01:52:26.973 --> 01:52:28.675
A BUS TICKET AND SO WE THOUGHT
01:52:28.741 --> 01:52:31.311
YOU KNOW THIS STRUCTURE GIVES
01:52:31.377 --> 01:52:33.680
GOOD PRIVACY PROTECTIONS AND ALL
01:52:33.746 --> 01:52:35.515
SENSE FOR ALL CONSUMERS --
01:52:35.582 --> 01:52:37.317
OF THEIR DATA AND THOUGHT IT
01:52:37.383 --> 01:52:39.419
STRUCK A REASONABLE BALANCE ON
01:52:39.486 --> 01:52:41.788
WHO THE LAWS DISCLOSURES TO IN
01:52:41.855 --> 01:52:43.389
THE CONTEXT THAT IT ALLOWS.
01:52:43.456 --> 01:52:45.191
DISCLOSURES TO WITH A COURT
01:52:45.258 --> 01:52:47.494
ORDER A WARRANT IF SOMEONE IS
01:52:47.560 --> 01:52:49.462
TARGETING A GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS
01:52:49.529 --> 01:52:50.663
AND HUMAN TRAFFICKING
01:52:50.730 --> 01:52:52.298
INVESTIGATION.
01:52:52.365 --> 01:52:53.967
IT SEEMS THAT THERE WOULD BE THE
01:52:54.033 --> 01:52:56.769
ABILITY TO GET WARRANTS FOR THIS
01:52:56.836 --> 01:52:58.705
INFORMATION CAME HERE IT SEEMS
01:52:58.771 --> 01:52:59.806
IT WOULD BE THE ABILITY TO GET
01:52:59.873 --> 01:53:00.773
WARRANTS YOU MAY BE CORRECT
01:53:00.840 --> 01:53:02.108
THAT'S VERY THEORETICAL AND I'M
01:53:02.175 --> 01:53:03.143
THINKING OF WHO ARE THE VICTIMS
01:53:03.209 --> 01:53:04.244
OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING HOW
01:53:04.310 --> 01:53:06.946
PREVALENT IT IS HOW EASY IT.
01:53:07.013 --> 01:53:07.113
IS.
01:53:07.180 --> 01:53:08.615
TO SKIRT LAW ENFORCEMENT IN SO
01:53:08.681 --> 01:53:09.749
MANY WAYS HOW DIFFICULT THE
01:53:09.816 --> 01:53:12.919
CRIMES ARE TO PROSECUTE AND IF
01:53:12.986 --> 01:53:14.888
THE GOAL IS DATA PROTECTION IT'S
01:53:14.954 --> 01:53:16.222
JUST GOOD POLICY TO HAVE A BE ON
01:53:16.289 --> 01:53:18.291
ICE WE HAVE SOME OF WE'VE
01:53:18.358 --> 01:53:20.160
ACTUALLY BEEN PASSING THEM TODAY.
01:53:20.226 --> 01:53:21.394
AND IN THIS COMMITTEE AND THE
01:53:21.461 --> 01:53:24.297
STATE HAS VERY RIGOROUS PRIVACY
01:53:24.364 --> 01:53:25.632
PROTECTIONS NOW.
01:53:25.698 --> 01:53:27.700
FOR YOU KNOW BEST PRACTICES.
01:53:27.767 --> 01:53:30.403
ATTACKED CONSUMER DATA I JUST --
01:53:30.470 --> 01:53:32.839
I'M GONNA LAY OFF TODAY IN GREAT
01:53:32.906 --> 01:53:34.340
HOPE THAT YOU WILL CONSIDER
01:53:34.407 --> 01:53:35.441
NARROWING THIS MUCH MORE
01:53:35.508 --> 01:53:37.076
SURGICALLY --
01:53:37.143 --> 01:53:40.079
WE ABSOLUTELY SHOULD NOT PUT UP
01:53:40.146 --> 01:53:41.014
OOPS BETWEEN.
01:53:41.080 --> 01:53:44.083
A LAW ENFORCEMENT.
01:53:44.150 --> 01:53:45.652
TO GO AFTER HUMAN TRAFFICKING TO
01:53:45.718 --> 01:53:47.320
GO ACTIVE GO AFTER VICTIMS OF
01:53:47.387 --> 01:53:49.989
CRIME AND THEY USED THESE
01:53:50.056 --> 01:53:50.857
LEDGERS THEY USE THIS
01:53:50.924 --> 01:53:52.959
INFORMATION TO TRACK DOWN RINGS
01:53:53.026 --> 01:53:53.993
I'VE HAD THREE HUMAN TRAFFICKING
01:53:54.060 --> 01:53:55.895
RINGS BROKEN UP IN MY DISTRICT
01:53:55.962 --> 01:53:57.063
JUST IN THE LAST THREE YEARS.
01:53:57.130 --> 01:53:59.566
AND SO I I REALLY STRONGLY
01:53:59.632 --> 01:54:01.267
ENCOURAGE THAT --
01:54:01.334 --> 01:54:03.203
BECAUSE I DO THINK IT'S OVER
01:54:03.269 --> 01:54:04.103
BROAD AND I THINK THAT WHAT
01:54:04.170 --> 01:54:06.940
ORIGINAL GOAL OF HAVE PROTECTING
01:54:07.006 --> 01:54:08.908
PEOPLE IN THEIR WORKPLACE.
01:54:08.975 --> 01:54:10.076
I'M WITH YOU.
01:54:10.143 --> 01:54:12.178
OF SO I'M I REALLY HOPE YOU CAN
01:54:12.245 --> 01:54:16.049
DO THAT THANK YOU.
01:54:16.115 --> 01:54:17.517
AS OUR IN DEPTH --
01:54:17.584 --> 01:54:18.718
THAT WAS THE INTERESTING
01:54:18.785 --> 01:54:20.587
DISCUSSION AYE AYE ME I'M.
01:54:20.653 --> 01:54:22.755
SORT OF SURPRISED THAT THESE --
01:54:22.822 --> 01:54:23.957
IF WE'RE JUST WANNA PRIVACY THAT
01:54:24.023 --> 01:54:25.158
THESE LETTERS ARE NOT ALREADY
01:54:25.225 --> 01:54:27.360
PROTECTED THAT THAT THEY ARE
01:54:27.427 --> 01:54:29.796
AVAILABLE TO ANYBODY THAT ASKS
01:54:29.862 --> 01:54:32.665
FOR THEM AND AND IS SPECIFICALLY
01:54:32.732 --> 01:54:34.367
ON YOUR CONCERNS.
01:54:34.434 --> 01:54:35.201
I THINK.
01:54:35.268 --> 01:54:37.704
BUT I GUESS I CAN ASK THAT THE
01:54:37.770 --> 01:54:38.638
QUESTION.
01:54:38.705 --> 01:54:39.339
HOW IF YOU HAVE A HUMAN
01:54:39.405 --> 01:54:42.208
TRAFFICKING?
01:54:42.275 --> 01:54:44.377
GENERALLY IS IN A LOCAL.
01:54:44.444 --> 01:54:46.079
CALIFORNIA LAW ENFORCEMENT
01:54:46.145 --> 01:54:47.447
THAT'S GOING AFTER IT NOT
01:54:47.513 --> 01:54:48.982
NECESSARILY THE FEDS AND IF IT'S
01:54:49.048 --> 01:54:49.949
THE FEDS WOULDN'T THEY BE
01:54:50.016 --> 01:54:51.084
PARTNERING WITH LOCAL LAW
01:54:51.150 --> 01:54:53.219
ENFORCEMENT HAVE.
01:54:53.286 --> 01:54:54.687
HOWEVER WE USUALLY DEALING WITH
01:54:54.754 --> 01:54:55.255
SITUATIONS LIKE [inaudible]
01:54:55.321 --> 01:54:59.158
THAT.
01:54:59.225 --> 01:55:00.727
I'M SORRY THAT IS NOT MY AREA OF
01:55:00.793 --> 01:55:02.695
EXPERTISE Y. BE HAPPY TO LOOK
01:55:02.762 --> 01:55:03.329
INTO THAT FOUND WITH PEOPLE WHO
01:55:03.396 --> 01:55:04.998
WORK IN THAT FIELD I IMAGINE IT
01:55:05.064 --> 01:55:05.598
IS.
01:55:05.665 --> 01:55:07.533
LOCALS THAT ARE OFTEN DOING THE
01:55:07.600 --> 01:55:09.902
ENFORCEMENT OF THAT BUT SO.
01:55:09.969 --> 01:55:11.437
THE LOCALS IF THEY THINK THERE'S
01:55:11.504 --> 01:55:12.872
A CRIME CAN STILL GET THE LEDGER
01:55:12.939 --> 01:55:15.208
AND THERE IS NO RESTRICTIONS AT
01:55:15.275 --> 01:55:15.842
ALL.
01:55:15.908 --> 01:55:17.644
AND FOR THE FEDS IF IT HAPPENS
01:55:17.710 --> 01:55:19.145
THERE INVOLVED WITHOUT THE
01:55:19.212 --> 01:55:21.781
LOCALS AND THEY CAN JUST GET A
01:55:21.848 --> 01:55:23.883
SUBPOENA CROWD COURT ORDER
01:55:23.950 --> 01:55:24.384
AWARENESS.
01:55:24.450 --> 01:55:25.918
AND BUT THIS IS WHAT THE
01:55:25.985 --> 01:55:28.221
SITUATION IS RIGHT NOW THAT
01:55:28.288 --> 01:55:29.055
LEDGER IS AVAILABLE.
01:55:29.122 --> 01:55:30.890
TO ALMOST ANY AGENCY WHICH TO ME
01:55:30.957 --> 01:55:32.292
SEEMS A PRIVATE LIKE A PRIVACY
01:55:32.358 --> 01:55:34.560
ISSUE SO I I I I UNDERSTAND THAT
01:55:34.627 --> 01:55:36.329
THIS BILL IS TO PROTECT I MEAN
01:55:36.396 --> 01:55:38.031
THAT THAT INFORMATION WAS TURNED
01:55:38.097 --> 01:55:38.665
BEING TURNED OVER TO ICE I THINK
01:55:38.731 --> 01:55:39.899
IS.
01:55:39.966 --> 01:55:42.669
TERRIBLE BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO
01:55:42.735 --> 01:55:43.970
LOOK AT THE PRIVACY PART THOSE
01:55:44.037 --> 01:55:45.338
LEDGER SHOULDN'T BE AVAILABLE TO
01:55:45.405 --> 01:55:47.974
JUST ANY AGENCY IT SHOULD BE.
01:55:48.041 --> 01:55:49.075
PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING AFTER
01:55:49.142 --> 01:55:50.877
CRIMINALS [inaudible]
01:55:50.943 --> 01:55:53.079
SO YOU.
01:55:53.146 --> 01:55:53.613
WE AGREE.
01:55:53.680 --> 01:55:55.281
BUT I BET IT WOULD BE OF IT
01:55:55.348 --> 01:55:56.015
WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE THE
01:55:56.082 --> 01:55:57.984
STATISTICS ON IF YOU'RE TALKING
01:55:58.051 --> 01:55:59.986
ABOUT HUMAN TRAFFICKING PLEASE.
01:56:00.053 --> 01:56:00.853
CERTAINLY DON'T GET FROM HERE TO
01:56:00.920 --> 01:56:02.088
THAT INFORMATION AND WE'LL DO
01:56:02.155 --> 01:56:03.556
SOME MORE RESEARCH ON FOLLOW UP
01:56:03.623 --> 01:56:06.559
WITH SUMMER BAKER ON ON ON OUR
01:56:06.626 --> 01:56:07.160
HOME BRITISH ISSUE BROUGHT UP
01:56:07.226 --> 01:56:08.194
TODAY.
01:56:08.261 --> 01:56:09.962
IF I MAY MISTER CHAIR JUST I'M
01:56:10.029 --> 01:56:10.697
SORRY.
01:56:10.763 --> 01:56:11.631
IF IT IF IT COULD AND COULD I
01:56:11.698 --> 01:56:12.231
MEAN I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT
01:56:12.298 --> 01:56:13.032
QUESTION AS YOUR AS YOU'RE
01:56:13.099 --> 01:56:14.834
LOOKING AT THIS IS THE WHAT
01:56:14.901 --> 01:56:16.135
OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT WHAT FOR
01:56:16.202 --> 01:56:18.237
WHAT PURPOSE TO OTHER FEDERAL
01:56:18.304 --> 01:56:19.405
AGENCIES.
01:56:19.472 --> 01:56:20.573
IF WE WANT TO GET THIS RIGHT
01:56:20.640 --> 01:56:22.675
THAT SEEMS LIKE HOMEWORK.
01:56:22.742 --> 01:56:24.277
THE SPONSORSHIP BICU AND THAT
01:56:24.344 --> 01:56:26.179
THAT SO THAT WE REALLY KNOW WHAT
01:56:26.245 --> 01:56:27.280
WE MIGHT BE IMPAIRING.
01:56:27.347 --> 01:56:29.082
BUT IT COULD BE.
01:56:29.148 --> 01:56:30.616
A VARIETY OF LAW ENFORCEMENT IS
01:56:30.683 --> 01:56:32.318
COMPLETELY UNRELATED TO HUMAN
01:56:32.385 --> 01:56:34.087
TRAFFICKING AND IMMIGRATION
01:56:34.153 --> 01:56:35.888
ENFORCEMENT IT COULD BE A
01:56:35.955 --> 01:56:37.423
VARIETY OF FRAUD CRIMES THAT
01:56:37.490 --> 01:56:39.992
THERE'S JUST A LOT AND SO I I
01:56:40.059 --> 01:56:42.261
WOULD ENCOURAGE TO REALLY --
01:56:42.328 --> 01:56:43.363
LOOK AT AND GET A GOOD
01:56:43.429 --> 01:56:44.897
UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT FEDERAL
01:56:44.964 --> 01:56:46.466
LAW ENFORCEMENT OTHERWISE USES
01:56:46.532 --> 01:56:48.401
IT FOR AND AGAINST IF YOU GET
01:56:48.468 --> 01:56:49.602
SURGICAL THANKS FOR INDULGING ME
01:56:49.669 --> 01:56:51.871
ON THAT SECOND POINT.
01:56:51.938 --> 01:56:53.239
MR OBERNOLTE THANK YOU MISTER
01:56:53.306 --> 01:56:54.507
OTHER DIFFERENT CONCERN WITH THE
01:56:54.574 --> 01:56:56.909
BILL THE ENFORCEMENT IN THIS
01:56:56.976 --> 01:56:58.478
BILL CREATES A PRIVATE RIGHT OF
01:56:58.544 --> 01:56:59.712
ACTION WHERE.
01:56:59.779 --> 01:57:01.514
SOMEONE WHO IS SUBJECTED TO A
01:57:01.581 --> 01:57:02.815
NON AUTHORIZED BREACH OF THEIR
01:57:02.882 --> 01:57:04.317
INFORMATION.
01:57:04.384 --> 01:57:06.018
THEN CAN BRING A CIVIL ACTION
01:57:06.085 --> 01:57:07.487
AGAINST THE AGENCY THAT --
01:57:07.553 --> 01:57:10.857
THE EFFECTUALLY THAT THAT BREACH
01:57:10.923 --> 01:57:11.157
[inaudible]
01:57:11.224 --> 01:57:12.658
NOW OTHER.
01:57:12.725 --> 01:57:14.560
CONSUMER PROTECTION BILLS THAT
01:57:14.627 --> 01:57:15.795
WE HAVE PASSED RECENTLY FACT
01:57:15.862 --> 01:57:17.330
WHEN WE PASSED EARLIER THAT IN
01:57:17.397 --> 01:57:19.198
THIS HEARING TODAY.
01:57:19.265 --> 01:57:22.168
I HAVE A YOU KNOW I SIMILAR
01:57:22.235 --> 01:57:24.537
SUBJECT MATTER BUT THEY ENTRUST
01:57:24.604 --> 01:57:25.872
ENFORCEMENT TO ATTORNEY
01:57:25.938 --> 01:57:27.306
GENERAL'S CITY ATTORNEYS AND
01:57:27.373 --> 01:57:28.541
DISTRICT ATTORNEYS.
01:57:28.608 --> 01:57:29.909
AND I THINK IN CASES LIKE THIS
01:57:29.976 --> 01:57:31.277
THAT'S A MORE APPROPRIATE VENUE
01:57:31.344 --> 01:57:35.148
BECAUSE A DATA BREACH.
01:57:35.214 --> 01:57:37.283
BY AN AGENCY IS LIKELY TO BE NOT
01:57:37.350 --> 01:57:38.751
JUST ONE OR TWO PEOPLE BUT A
01:57:38.818 --> 01:57:40.286
WHOLE CLASS OF PEOPLE AND IT
01:57:40.353 --> 01:57:41.254
SEEMED LIKE.
01:57:41.320 --> 01:57:42.789
AVOIDING THOSE KIND OF SYSTEMIC
01:57:42.855 --> 01:57:45.124
ABUSES WOULD BE BETTER HANDLED
01:57:45.191 --> 01:57:46.325
BY SOMEONE LIKE ATTORNEY GENERAL
01:57:46.392 --> 01:57:46.592
CAN YOU.
01:57:46.659 --> 01:57:48.528
CAN YOU TELL US WHY YOU DIDN'T
01:57:48.594 --> 01:57:50.196
GO THAT ROUTE INSTEAD CREATED A
01:57:50.263 --> 01:57:50.830
PRIVATE RIGHT OF ACTION IN THIS
01:57:50.897 --> 01:57:57.804
BILL.
01:57:57.870 --> 01:57:59.806
WE THINK THAT BOTH REMEDIES ARE
01:57:59.872 --> 01:58:01.774
APPROPRIATE HERE THIS.
01:58:01.841 --> 01:58:05.044
TYPE A DISCLOSURE ONE AND BE A
01:58:05.111 --> 01:58:07.213
DATA BREACH --
01:58:07.280 --> 01:58:09.515
SITUATION IT'S WHEN THE ACTUAL
01:58:09.582 --> 01:58:12.018
HOTEL A BUS COMPANY VOLUNTARILY
01:58:12.084 --> 01:58:14.720
TURNS THIS INFORMATION OVER SO.
01:58:14.787 --> 01:58:16.656
THEY HAVE CONTROL OVER THEIR
01:58:16.722 --> 01:58:19.258
ACTIONS IN THIS LAW PUTS THEM ON
01:58:19.325 --> 01:58:20.560
CLEAR NOTICE THAT SUCH
01:58:20.626 --> 01:58:23.196
DISCLOSURE IS NOT PERMITTED AND
01:58:23.262 --> 01:58:25.097
SO WE THINK IF THEY WERE. TO
01:58:25.164 --> 01:58:26.599
TAKE THAT AFFIRMATIVE STEP
01:58:26.666 --> 01:58:28.701
DESPITE THAT THAN HAVING THE
01:58:28.768 --> 01:58:29.469
OPTION OF A PRIVATE RIGHT OF
01:58:29.535 --> 01:58:31.170
ACTION FOR INDIVIDUALS.
01:58:31.237 --> 01:58:32.238
WHO ARE HARMED BY THIS IS
01:58:32.305 --> 01:58:35.107
APPROPRIATE WHILE STILL ALLOWING?
01:58:35.174 --> 01:58:36.209
FOR ALL THE OTHER ENFORCEMENT
01:58:36.275 --> 01:58:37.944
MECHANISMS BY DISTRICT
01:58:38.010 --> 01:58:39.312
ATTORNEY'S CITIZENS TOURNEY'S
01:58:39.378 --> 01:58:40.680
AND THE ATTORNEY GENERAL.
01:58:40.746 --> 01:58:42.849
DOES THE BILL ACTUALLY ALLOW
01:58:42.915 --> 01:58:43.449
THAT BECAUSE I DON'T READ THAT
01:58:43.516 --> 01:58:46.953
IN THE BILL.
01:58:47.019 --> 01:58:48.821
I BELIEVE IT DOES ADAM MCCANN
01:58:48.888 --> 01:58:50.323
LOOK INTO THAT MAKE SURE.
01:58:50.389 --> 01:58:51.824
AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY
01:58:51.891 --> 01:58:52.124
PROHIBITION.
01:58:52.191 --> 01:58:55.962
ON AS IN ANY LAWS THAT ARE ON
01:58:56.028 --> 01:58:57.497
THERE AT WHAT READ ANYTHING
01:58:57.563 --> 01:58:58.531
ABOUT THAT BUT ULTIMATELY MY
01:58:58.598 --> 01:59:00.132
CONCERN AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT
01:59:00.199 --> 01:59:01.601
WE'VE SEEN IN OTHER AREAS.
01:59:01.667 --> 01:59:03.536
IN CONSUMER PROTECTION LAW WHICH
01:59:03.603 --> 01:59:05.071
IS THAT YOU HAVE I MEAN WHAT WE
01:59:05.137 --> 01:59:07.073
WERE ON THE SAME TEAM WHERE WE
01:59:07.139 --> 01:59:08.241
WANT TO ENFORCE.
01:59:08.307 --> 01:59:09.976
STRONG CONSUMER PROTECTIONS BUT
01:59:10.042 --> 01:59:11.944
WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE PREDATORY
01:59:12.011 --> 01:59:13.312
LAW FIRMS OUT THERE THAT ARE
01:59:13.379 --> 01:59:15.181
LOOKING FOR EXCUSES TO INSTITUTE
01:59:15.248 --> 01:59:16.816
CLASS ACTION LAWSUITS AND HAVE A
01:59:16.883 --> 01:59:18.451
PROFIT MOTIVE THEIR MOTIVE IS
01:59:18.518 --> 01:59:20.019
NOT ENFORCEMENT OF THE LAW THERE
01:59:20.086 --> 01:59:20.253
FORCED.
01:59:20.319 --> 01:59:21.687
THEIR MOTIVE IS TO MAKE MONEY.
01:59:21.754 --> 01:59:23.556
AND THEY TRY AND PICK UP LITTLE
01:59:23.623 --> 01:59:25.258
GOTCHA CASES WHERE THERE BEN ON
01:59:25.324 --> 01:59:27.793
AUTHOR OF PERHAPS UNWITTING
01:59:27.860 --> 01:59:28.694
VIOLATIONS OF CONSUMER
01:59:28.761 --> 01:59:30.596
PROTECTION LAW AND AND YOU KNOW
01:59:30.663 --> 01:59:32.164
THEY THEY USE THAT TO EXPLOIT.
01:59:32.231 --> 01:59:33.666
THE COMPANIES THAT WERE INVOLVED
01:59:33.733 --> 01:59:36.302
AND A THAT THAT'S NOT AN
01:59:36.369 --> 01:59:37.703
APPROPRIATE WAY TO ENFORCE.
01:59:37.770 --> 01:59:40.172
CONSUMER PROTECTION LINE SO I I
01:59:40.239 --> 01:59:41.007
HAVE TO RESPECTFULLY OPPOSETHE
01:59:41.073 --> 01:59:41.908
BILL.
01:59:41.974 --> 01:59:43.442
TODAY BECAUSE OF THAT AND ONE
01:59:43.509 --> 01:59:44.577
ENCOURAGE YOU IF THERE'S A BILL
01:59:44.644 --> 01:59:47.413
MOVES FORWARD HERE TO CONSIDER.
01:59:47.480 --> 01:59:49.181
CHANGING THE ENFORCEMENT TO BE.
01:59:49.248 --> 01:59:50.883
GOVERNMENTAL ATTORNEYS GENERAL
01:59:50.950 --> 01:59:52.451
DISTRICT ATTORNEY CITY ATTORNEYS
01:59:52.518 --> 01:59:53.085
BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S A MUCH
01:59:53.152 --> 01:59:54.921
MORE APPROPRIATE VENUE TO BRING
01:59:54.987 --> 01:59:59.592
ACTION IN CASES LIKE THIS.
01:59:59.659 --> 02:00:00.860
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR WHEN I'D
02:00:00.927 --> 02:00:03.129
QUESTIONS.
02:00:03.195 --> 02:00:04.764
SEEING NONE ARE LET LET ME THANK --
02:00:04.830 --> 02:00:06.132
THE SENATOR FOR BRINGING THIS
02:00:06.198 --> 02:00:07.166
BILL FORWARD I THINK OVERALL
02:00:07.233 --> 02:00:08.568
IT'S A IT'S A GOOD MEASURES VERY
02:00:08.634 --> 02:00:11.103
GOOD MEASURE AS ONE OF ADDRESSES.
02:00:11.170 --> 02:00:14.273
SOME OF THE ISSUES RAISED AND
02:00:14.340 --> 02:00:15.875
LET ME ENEMY SAY THAT UNDER THE
02:00:15.942 --> 02:00:16.943
FOURTH AMENDMENT ANY LAW
02:00:17.009 --> 02:00:18.978
ENFORCEMENT EITHER FEDERAL OR
02:00:19.045 --> 02:00:19.579
OTHERWISE.
02:00:19.645 --> 02:00:21.881
ON WHEN THE DEMAND FOR THESE
02:00:21.948 --> 02:00:23.282
RECORDS WOULD THAT WOULD REQUIRE
02:00:23.349 --> 02:00:24.917
A WARRANT --
02:00:24.984 --> 02:00:26.385
I THINK THE BILL ONLY LIMITS
02:00:26.452 --> 02:00:29.355
THOUGH THE VOLUNTARY DISCLOSURE --
02:00:29.422 --> 02:00:30.356
OF THESE RECORDS TO THIRD
02:00:30.423 --> 02:00:31.657
PARTIES IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN
02:00:31.724 --> 02:00:33.593
INCLUDING OUR FEDERAL LAW
02:00:33.659 --> 02:00:34.126
ENFORCEMENT IS IS THAT NOT
02:00:34.193 --> 02:00:34.994
CORRECT.
02:00:35.061 --> 02:00:36.929
THAT IS CORRECT SO SO I THINK I
02:00:36.996 --> 02:00:38.764
THINK ARE YOU KNOW HOW
02:00:38.831 --> 02:00:39.865
UNCOMFORTABLE IT SUPPORTING THE
02:00:39.932 --> 02:00:41.167
BILL -- AS
02:00:41.233 --> 02:00:42.468
HIS BUT I DO WANT TO ASK THE
02:00:42.535 --> 02:00:44.070
SENATOR --
02:00:44.136 --> 02:00:44.637
TO FOLLOW UP ON SOME OF THE
02:00:44.704 --> 02:00:46.639
SUGGESTIONS THAT BEEN RAISED
02:00:46.706 --> 02:00:47.873
TODAY ARE AND IF SO TO THE
02:00:47.940 --> 02:00:49.308
EXTENT YOU CAN YOU CAN PROVIDE
02:00:49.375 --> 02:00:50.610
US WITH INFORMATION THAT'S BEEN
02:00:50.676 --> 02:00:52.178
REQUESTED AS WELL THAT THAT
02:00:52.244 --> 02:00:53.512
WOULD BE GOOD ABSOLUTELY WILL
02:00:53.579 --> 02:00:55.381
COME FROM THE WORK ON THE ISSUES
02:00:55.448 --> 02:00:55.982
THAT.
02:00:56.048 --> 02:00:56.582
SUMMER BAKER BROUGHT UP THOSE
02:00:56.649 --> 02:00:59.218
IMPACTS ONLY WANT TO MAKE SURE
02:00:59.285 --> 02:01:00.353
WE'RE NOT FOUND.
02:01:00.419 --> 02:01:01.354
YEAH TO SPARSELY AFFECTING ANY
02:01:01.420 --> 02:01:03.489
TYPE OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING CASES
02:01:03.556 --> 02:01:05.424
AGAIN AND REGARDS TO MY GOOD
02:01:05.491 --> 02:01:06.692
FRIEND MISTER OBERNOLTE.
02:01:06.759 --> 02:01:07.994
THIS IS A COMPANY THAT'S
02:01:08.060 --> 02:01:11.230
WILLINGLY GIVING OUT INFORMATION --
02:01:11.297 --> 02:01:13.265
I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR US
02:01:13.332 --> 02:01:14.300
TO BE WOODROW FOLKS THAT ARE
02:01:14.367 --> 02:01:15.868
SEEKING REMEDIES PEOPLE HAVE
02:01:15.935 --> 02:01:16.902
ACCESS TO THOSE.
02:01:16.969 --> 02:01:19.405
AYE AS OPPOSED TO A DATA BREACH
02:01:19.472 --> 02:01:20.806
WHICH IS VERY DIFFERENT.
02:01:20.873 --> 02:01:22.708
SO I'M AND I RESPECTFULLY ASK
02:01:22.775 --> 02:01:24.477
FOR A VOTE THANK YOU VERY MUCH I
02:01:24.543 --> 02:01:27.213
LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
02:01:27.279 --> 02:01:29.382
THE BILL IS AND HAS BEEN MOVED
02:01:29.448 --> 02:01:30.750
AND SECONDED THAT THE
02:01:30.816 --> 02:01:31.984
RECOMMENDATION IS TO PASSED AS
02:01:32.051 --> 02:01:34.987
AMENDED. TO <c.green> FOR TO THE</c>
02:01:35.054 --> 02:01:36.555
ASSEMBLY FLOOR I SAY WITHOUT THE
02:01:36.622 --> 02:01:37.490
MADAM SECRETARY UP PLEASE CALL
02:01:37.556 --> 02:01:38.157
THE ROLL.
02:01:38.224 --> 02:01:39.659
MOTIONS DEEP PASSES AMENDED TO
02:01:39.725 --> 02:01:41.527
THE ASSEMBLY FLOOR CHAO HIGH
02:01:41.594 --> 02:01:43.129
CHAO AYE KILEY.
02:01:43.195 --> 02:01:43.796
BAKER [inaudible]
02:01:43.863 --> 02:01:45.931
BERMAN.
02:01:45.998 --> 02:01:47.099
CALDERON.
02:01:47.166 --> 02:01:48.701
CALDERON AYE GABRIEL.
02:01:48.768 --> 02:01:50.503
GABRIEL I IRWIN.
02:01:50.569 --> 02:01:52.405
IRWIN AYE MULLIN.
02:01:52.471 --> 02:01:54.273
MULLIN AYE OBERNOLTE.
02:01:54.340 --> 02:01:55.074
OBERNOLTE NOW REYES.
02:01:55.141 --> 02:01:57.677
REYES AYE.
02:01:57.743 --> 02:01:58.577
X. THAT GIVES CHAIRMAN THANK YOU
02:01:58.644 --> 02:02:01.681
VERY MUCH --
02:02:01.747 --> 02:02:04.550
STILL WILL AND SCOTT SHOW WE GO
02:02:04.617 --> 02:02:10.389
DOWN.
02:02:10.456 --> 02:02:11.524
BEFORE WE DO THE ROLL CALL LET
02:02:11.590 --> 02:02:13.459
ME TAKE A MINUTE TO THANK ALL MY
02:02:13.526 --> 02:02:15.428
COLLEAGUES --
02:02:15.494 --> 02:02:16.462
FOR BEING APPLIED AT THIS
02:02:16.529 --> 02:02:17.997
COMMITTEE THIS UP PAST CYCLE
02:02:18.064 --> 02:02:19.498
IT'S BEEN GREAT WORKING WITH ALL
02:02:19.565 --> 02:02:20.566
OF YOU.
02:02:20.633 --> 02:02:22.334
AND I INCLUDING OUR NEWEST
02:02:22.401 --> 02:02:23.969
MEMBER AT WELCOME --
02:02:24.036 --> 02:02:26.505
FROM IS GABRIEL AND ALSO I WANT
02:02:26.572 --> 02:02:28.607
TO THINK OF HOW STAFF OF FOR
02:02:28.674 --> 02:02:29.975
THEIR DILIGENT WORK.
02:02:30.042 --> 02:02:31.711
AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT --
02:02:31.777 --> 02:02:32.978
THROUGHOUT OUR REPUBLICANS
02:02:33.045 --> 02:02:34.714
CONSULTANT IS STILL WITH US FOR
02:02:34.780 --> 02:02:36.515
THE LAST DAY TODAY AND HE'S
02:02:36.582 --> 02:02:37.883
GONNA BE JOINING A MEMBER'S
02:02:37.950 --> 02:02:39.118
OFFICE SO --
02:02:39.185 --> 02:02:41.721
IT WAS A IT'S BEEN GREAT WORKING
02:02:41.787 --> 02:02:43.689
WITH HIM --
02:02:43.756 --> 02:02:45.825
TO TO A LARGE EXTENT AND I'LL
02:02:45.891 --> 02:02:46.692
TOTALLY ENJOY WORKING WITH HIS
02:02:46.759 --> 02:02:46.892
CELL.
02:02:46.959 --> 02:02:49.995
ARE THE BEST OF LUCK TO YOU AND
02:02:50.062 --> 02:02:52.098
OUT WITH A FOUR TO COULDN'T YEAH
02:02:52.164 --> 02:02:52.565
YEAR -- AND
02:02:52.631 --> 02:02:54.100
FACT NEXT YEAR WE DON'T KNOW
02:02:54.166 --> 02:02:55.067
WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AS RIGHT
02:02:55.134 --> 02:02:55.735
TO MAKE IT IS A OF THE COMMITTEE
02:02:55.801 --> 02:02:56.368
IS CONCERNED SO.
02:02:56.435 --> 02:02:59.572
HOPEFULLY YOU GUYS WILL BE BACK
02:02:59.638 --> 02:03:00.172
AND HOPEFULLY I'LL BE HERE TO
02:03:00.239 --> 02:03:03.042
SAY.
02:03:03.109 --> 02:03:04.777
SO IT'S BEEN IT'S BEEN WONDERFUL
02:03:04.844 --> 02:03:05.911
EXPERIENCE WORKING WITH ALL OF
02:03:05.978 --> 02:03:06.979
YOU YES MS BAKER GO AHEAD
02:03:07.046 --> 02:03:07.580
ADMIXTURE JUST TO IF YOU CAN
02:03:07.646 --> 02:03:08.180
INDULGE AGAIN THAT WE REALLY
02:03:08.247 --> 02:03:09.815
THINK OUR CONSULTANT FOR ITS
02:03:09.882 --> 02:03:11.383
GOOD WORK ICE BEEN ATROPHY I
02:03:11.450 --> 02:03:12.184
THINK ALL THE MEMBERS THE
02:03:12.251 --> 02:03:13.452
COMMITTEE MAY INCLUDE OUR CAUCUS
02:03:13.519 --> 02:03:14.353
ESPECIALLY SO.
02:03:14.420 --> 02:03:15.688
MANY OF US HAVE COMMITTEES AND
02:03:15.755 --> 02:03:19.558
OTHER PLACES HERE AND JUST --
02:03:19.625 --> 02:03:21.160
VERY GRATEFUL AND I KNOW WE ALL
02:03:21.227 --> 02:03:22.661
WISH HIM WELL CERTAINLY ARE.
02:03:22.728 --> 02:03:23.829
COLLEAGUES DO IN HIS NEXT
02:03:23.896 --> 02:03:27.500
ADVENTURE.
02:03:27.566 --> 02:03:29.335
THINK ABOUT THINK ABOUT.
02:03:29.401 --> 02:03:31.003
SO WITH THAT LET'S THAT CALL THE
02:03:31.070 --> 02:03:33.172
ABSENT MEMBERS ON BECAUSE OF
02:03:33.239 --> 02:03:34.373
THESE BILLS THAT.
02:03:34.440 --> 02:03:35.975
SHE WE JUST GO DOWN THE LIST
02:03:36.041 --> 02:03:38.144
MANY ME [inaudible]
02:03:38.210 --> 02:03:42.047
AND LET'S [inaudible]
02:03:42.114 --> 02:03:43.349
HAVE.
02:03:43.415 --> 02:03:46.619
IT'S GOING TO BE.
02:03:46.685 --> 02:03:49.054
HELL I SP. THREE TWENTY SEVEN
02:03:49.121 --> 02:03:50.489
JACKSON PLEASE CALL THE ABSENT
02:03:50.556 --> 02:03:51.357
MEMBERS [inaudible]
02:03:51.423 --> 02:03:53.325
BERMAN [inaudible]
02:03:53.392 --> 02:04:05.471
BERMAN I BELT GOT BILL IS OUT
02:04:05.538 --> 02:04:06.839
THERE.
02:04:06.906 --> 02:04:09.375
NEXT WE HAVE.
02:04:09.441 --> 02:04:11.343
S. B. A THIRTY EIGHT THAT'S
02:04:11.410 --> 02:04:12.912
HERTZBERG GOTH PLEASE CALL THE
02:04:12.978 --> 02:04:13.779
ABSENT MEMBERS [inaudible]
02:04:13.846 --> 02:04:15.648
KILEY.
02:04:15.714 --> 02:04:19.285
BERMAN A BERMAN AYE.
02:04:19.351 --> 02:04:20.019
GABRIEL.
02:04:20.085 --> 02:04:24.490
GABRIEL I ANDREAS.
02:04:24.557 --> 02:04:31.297
RADIUS I THAT BILL IS OUT ALSO
02:04:31.363 --> 02:04:31.597
[inaudible]
02:04:31.664 --> 02:04:33.265
YEAH.
02:04:33.332 --> 02:04:34.700
NEXT BILL S. --
02:04:34.767 --> 02:04:37.303
S. B. ELEVEN TWENTY ONE AND
02:04:37.369 --> 02:04:38.204
STUCK STOCK PLEASE CALL THE
02:04:38.270 --> 02:04:41.073
ABSENT MEMBERS [inaudible]
02:04:41.140 --> 02:04:42.608
BERMAN [inaudible]
02:04:42.675 --> 02:04:46.178
BERMAN I THAT BILL IS OUT.
02:04:46.245 --> 02:04:49.849
AND FINALLY WE HOUSE A LARA S.
02:04:49.915 --> 02:04:52.084
B. ELEVEN NINETY FOUR PLEASE
02:04:52.151 --> 02:04:53.819
CALL THE ABSENT MEMBERS KILEY
02:04:53.886 --> 02:04:54.119
[inaudible]
02:04:54.186 --> 02:04:55.955
BAKER.
02:04:56.021 --> 02:05:01.093
BERMAN I'VE BERMAN AYE.
02:05:01.160 --> 02:05:03.195
WE WILL LEAVE THE ROLE OPEN FOR
02:05:03.262 --> 02:05:20.212
A MR KILEY ON A COUPLE OF BILLS
02:09:18.617 --> 02:09:18.684
.
02:09:18.684 --> 02:09:19.251
I THINK.
02:09:19.318 --> 02:09:21.253
YOU'LL HAVE TO THOSE. EIGHT
02:09:21.320 --> 02:09:23.589
THIRTY EIGHT HERTZBERG.
02:09:23.655 --> 02:09:27.793
I I I KILEY AYE KILEY AYE AND
02:09:27.860 --> 02:09:29.995
THE LAST.
02:09:30.062 --> 02:09:32.030
LARA BELT --
02:09:32.097 --> 02:09:33.699
SB ELEVEN NINETY FOUR ARE
02:09:33.765 --> 02:09:33.999
[inaudible]
02:09:34.066 --> 02:09:34.967
KILEY [inaudible]
02:09:35.033 --> 02:09:36.568
KELLY NOW.
02:09:36.635 --> 02:09:41.140
I VERY GET SO THAT SHOULD DO IT.
02:09:41.206 --> 02:09:41.740
MEETINGS AGAIN THANK YOU VERY
02:09:41.807 --> 02:09:57.856
MUCH