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AWAY YOU GO. GOOD MORNING.
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WELCOME TO THE ASSEMBLY PUBLIC
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SAFETY COMMITTEE. IT IS NOW NINE
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O'CLOCK. AH! THE CHAIR IS HERE.
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AND. ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S MIA BONTA
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IS HERE. WE NEED SOME MORE
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COMMITTEE MEMBERS. I SEE MR
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CIERTOS NAME. WHO WAS HERE? SO
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WE'RE. WE'RE A LITTLE SHORT ON A
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QUORUM, SO THE SOONER PEOPLE GET
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HERE. MR QUIRK IS NOW HERE.
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AND MOST IMPORTANT. WE'RE
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LOOKING FOR SENATE AUTHORS. MR
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CORTEZ. MISS SKINNER. AND OF
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COURSE, MR WIENER.
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WE NOW HAVE FOUR WE NEED ONE
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MORE FOR CORE.
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SURE. WHILE WE'RE WAITING I WILL
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DO THE COVID GUIDELINE. WE
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ENCOURAGE THE PUBLIC TO PROVIDE
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WRITTEN TESTIONY BEFORE THE
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HEARING BY VISITING THE
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COMMITTEE WEBSITE. AT HTTPS, UM. ÁP SF DOT ASSEMBLY DOT C A DOT
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GOV UM. BACKSLASH PLEASE NOTE
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THAT ANY WRITTEN TESTIMONY
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SUBMITTED TO THE COMMITTEE IS
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CONSIDERED PUBLIC COMMENT AND
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MAYBE READ INTO THE RECORD OR
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REPRINTED. ALL ARE ENCOURAGED TO
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WATCH. THE HEARING FROM ITS
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LIVESTREAM ON THE ASSEMBLY'S
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WEBSITE AT W W DOT ASSEMBLY.
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THAT CA.GOV BACKSLASH TODAY'S
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YEAH. TODAY'S EVENTS. THE
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HEARING ROOM WILL BE OPEN FOR
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ATTENDANCE OF THIS HEARING.
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REMEMBER? OF THE PUBLIC
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ATTENDING TO HEARING IS
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ENCOURAGED TO WEAR MASK AT ALL
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TIMES WHILE IN THE BUILDING. THE
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PUBLIC MAY ALSO PARTICIPATE. IN
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THIS HEARING BY TELEPHONE. WE
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ENCOURAGE THE PUBLIC TO MONITOR
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THE COMMITTEE'S WEBSITE FOR
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UPDATES. UM AGAIN, WELL, WILL
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ASK. FOR EVERYONE TO TURN THEIR
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PHONES OFF. ESPECIALLY MR LEVEL
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, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO CALL OUT
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ANY NAMES. ONE. WE COULD BEGIN
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AS A SUBCOMMITTEE IF WE HAD A WE
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HAD AN AUTHOR.
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CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER NOW
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THAT WE HAVE A QUORUM, MADAM
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SECRETARY, COULD YOU CALL THE
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ROLL? JOHN SAWYER HERE. LACKEY
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BONTA HERE, BRIAN. QUIRK.
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SANTIAGO. SEYARTO. THANK YOU
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WERE WE NOW HAVE A CORE. WE'RE
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GOING TO GO TO THE CONSENT
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CALENDAR. UM. ON THE CONSENT.
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CANADA CANADA WE HAVE ITEM
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NUMBER TWO SB 28. I MEAN, 382
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CABALLERO. HUMAN TRAFFICKING
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RESTRAINING ORDERS. I DON'T
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NUMBER THREE SP 12 68 CABALLERO.
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VICTIMS OF CRIME, FAMILY ACCESS
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TO INFORMATION I DON'T KNOW.
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BEFORE SP 748 PORTANTINO
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TRESPASS PRIVATE UNIVERSITIES
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URGENCY CLAUSE. I DON'T NUMBER
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FIVE SB 9 TO 58. FATAL VEHICULAR
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ACCIDENTS. CHEMICAL TEST RESULTS
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I DON'T NUMBER 7981 981 GLACIER
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CRIMINAL JUSTICE GENERAL
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PROCEDURE. FACTUAL EVIDENCE,
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FACTUAL INNOCENCE AND ITEM
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NUMBER EIGHT. SP 12 72 BECKER
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CRIMES INTERCEPTING TELEPHONE
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COMMUNICATIONS. MOVE CONSENT.
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VICTORY. COLORADO. AND THE
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CONSENT CALENDAR. JOHN SAWYER
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YOUR EYE LACKEY LACKEY. I BONTA
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I, BRIAN. QUIRK I WORK I
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SANTIAGO. SEYARTO TOÀN ARE TÔI.
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THE CONSENT CHALLENGERS ADOPTED,
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WE WILL BEGIN WITH ITEM NUMBER
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ONE SB 300, SENATOR CORTESI
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CRIMES, MURDER AND PUNISHMENT.
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GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. GOOD
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MORNING, MR CHAIRMAN AND
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MEMBERS. TODAY I'M HERE TO
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PRESENT SB 300. THE CERTAINTY
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REFORM AT. SENTENCING SOMEONE TO
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DIE IN PRISON, WHETHER BY DEATH
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PENALTY OR LIFE WITHOUT PAROLE.
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OTHERWISE KNOWN AS L. WOP, OF
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COURSE, IS VIRTUALLY UNHEARD OF
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IN MUCH OF THE WORLD. CURRENTLY
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CALIFORNIA MANDATES A SENTENCE
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OF DEATH OR LIFE WITHOUT THE
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POSSIBILITY OF PAROLE FOR ANYONE
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CONVICTED OF MURDER. WITH
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SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES, EVEN IF
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THE PERSON DID NOT ACTUALLY KILL
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ANYONE, NOR INTEND FOR ANYONE TO
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DIE. ADDITIONALLY FOR ALL CRIMES
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UNDER THE SENTENCING SCHEME, IF
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ANY SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES FOUND
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TO BE TRUE, THE JUDGE HAS NO
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CHOICE. REPEAT NO CHOICE BUT TO
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SENTENCE A PERSON TO DEATH OR L
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Y. CURRENT LAW FORBIDS THE JUDGE
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FROM CONSIDERING WHETHER THESE
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PUNISHMENTS ARE FAIR IN ANY
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GIVEN CASE. THE MANDATED MINIMUM
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SENTENCES TO DIE BEHIND PRISON
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WALLS WITHOUT ANY MEANS OF
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EARNING PAROLE. THE SPECIAL
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CIRCUMSTANCES SENTENCING SCHEME
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, WHICH LACKS EVEN MINIMAL
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JUDICIAL DISCRETION, REFLECTS
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THE WORST TENDENCIES WITHIN OUR
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CRIMINAL JUSTIE SYSTEM AND
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OVERWHELMINGLY IMPACTS PEOPLE OF
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COLOR. MORE THAN TWO THIRDS OF
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PEOPLE SERVING ELO UP IN
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CALIFORNIA. ARE BLACK OR BROWN
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IN THE VAST MAJORITY, HAD NO
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PRIOR CRIMINAL RECORD BEFORE
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BEING SENTENCED TO DIE IN
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PRISON. MOST APPROXIMATELY 63%
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WE'RE UNDER 25 YEARS OF AGE AT
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THE TIME OF THE OFFENSE. IN FACT
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, IN CALIFORNIA, 19 IS THE MOST
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COMMON AGE OF THOSE SENTENCED TO
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LIFE WITHOUT PAROLE. DECADES OF
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RESEARCH IS FILLED TO SHOW ANY
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PUBLIC SAFETY BENEFIT FROM L WOP
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WHERE THE DEATH PENALTY ON THE
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CONTRARY, SIR, SEVERE
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PUNISHMENTS LIKE THESE HAVE
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DRIVEN THE MASSACRES AERATION
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CRISIS THAT HAS DESTROYED LIVES,
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FAMILIES AND ENTIRE COMMUNITIES.
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PARTICULARLY BLACK AND BROWN
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COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE LONG BEEN
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DEPRIVED OF SUPPORT SERVICES AND
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PROGRAMS WHILE BEING TARGETED.
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BY RACISM AND OPPRESSION. SB 300
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SEEKS TO FIX THIS OVERSIGHT IN
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OUR CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM BY
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PREVENTING SOMEONE WHO'S NOT THE
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ACTUAL KILLER AND DOES NOT HAVE
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AN ATTEMPT TO KILL FROM BEING
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PUNISHED BY DEATH OR L WOP. THE
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BILL RESTORES JUDICIAL
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DISCRETION TO JUDGES TO IMPOSE A
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SENTENCE OF 25 YEARS TO LIFE. IF
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BASED ON THE FACTS, THEY
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DETERMINED THE JUDGE DETERMINES
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THAT AN OPPORTUNITY TO EARN
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PAROLE WOULD BEST SERVE THE
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INTERESTS OF JUSTICE IN A CASE
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WHERE SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES HAS
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BEEN CHARGED. THE OPPOSITION
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CLAIMS THAT THE BILL REDUCES
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CRIMINAL PENALTIES FOR KILLING A
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PEACE OFFICER STATING THAT OF
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TWO INDIVIDUALS SHOOT AT A LAW
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ENFORCEMENT OFFICER AND THAT
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OFFICER DIES. BUT IT'S PROVEN
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THAT ONLY ONE BUILT BULLET
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KILLED THE OFFICER THAN THE
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PERSON WHO SHOT DID NOT HIT. THE
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OFFICER WILL NOT BE SUBJECT TO
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THE SAME PENALTIES OF THE ACTUAL
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SHOOTER. THIS IS NOT TRUE. THE
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IMPOSED. THE OPPONENTS ARE
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MISTAKEN ON THE WAR AND ON THE
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BILL. I'D LIKE TO EMPHASIZE THAT
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THIS BILL DOES NOT CHANGE THE
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PENALTY FOR SOMEONE INVOLVED IN
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A FELONY WHO ACTED WITH INTENT
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TO KILL. THE COURTS OF HILL THAT
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IF TWO INDIVIDUALS SHOOT AT
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SOMEONE THAT IS EVIDENCE THAT
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THEY BOTH ACTED WITH INTENT TO
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KILL. BOTH INDIVIDUALS WOULD
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CONTINUE TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE
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DEATH PENALTY AND LIFE WITHOUT
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PAROLE UNDER SP 300. WE RECENTLY
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TOOK AMENDMENTS. TO THE FINDINGS
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OF DECLARATION SECTION OF THE
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BILL SPECIFICALLY TO MAKE IT
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CLEAR THAT SB 300 MAKES NO
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CHANGES TO EXISTING STATUTES
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THAT OUTLINE CRIMINAL PENALTIES
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FOR THOSE WHO PARTICIPATE IN A
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CRIMINAL ACT THAT RESULTS IN THE
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DEATH OF A PEACE OFFICER.
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LASTLY, I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT
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THAT THE BILL IS NOT RITU
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ACTIVE. IT'S NOT RETROACTIVE.
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AMENDMENTS TAKEN IN THE SENATE
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REMOVED THE RETROACTIVITY OF THE
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BILL AND THEREFORE IS NOW
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PROSPECTIVE ONLY HERE TO TESTIFY
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AND SUPPORT OF THE BILL IS
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TAMMIE COOPER WITH THE
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CALIFORNIA COALITION FOR WOMEN
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PRISONERS, AND LYNN WILLIAMS,
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WHO HERSELF IS A REGISTERED
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VICTIM OF CRIME. BOTH WITNESSES
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ARE SYSTEM IMPACTED AND HAVE
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DEEPLY COMPELLING STORIES.
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ADDITIONALLY OR LEGAL EXPERT
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NATASHA MINSK ER IS HERE TO
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ANSWER ANY LEGAL OR TECHNICAL
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QUESTIONS. THE COMMITTEE MAY
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HAVE THANK YOU, AND IT'S
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APPROPRIATE TIME. I WOULD
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RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR I
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VOTE. THANK YOU. SENATOR AND
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YOUR WITNESSES HAVE FIVE MINUTES
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TOTAL WHEREVER WE DO YOU WANT TO
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SPLIT IT? THAT'S 2.5 MINUTES
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EACH TO THEIR PLEASURE. I'M
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LYNNE WILLIAMS. AND MY SISTER IS
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ELAINE WILLIAMS LOOK CLOSER.
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THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO
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SPEAK AND SUPPORT OF SB 300
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SENTENCE REFORM IN THE STATE OF
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CALIFORNIA. A MAY 13TH 1989. OUR
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FAMILY WAS FOREVER CHANGED. MY
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39 YEAR OLD SISTER DIED WHEN HER
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CAR WAS HIT BY A PERSON WHO WAS
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FLEEING THE POLICE. WE WERE
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CONSUMED BY SORROW, BUT NEVER BY
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ANGER OR RAGE. ELAINE WOULD NOT
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HAVE LIKED THAT. SHE WAS A
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SPIRITUAL PERSON. WHO DEDICATED
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HER LIFE TOWARDS FAIRNESS AND
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JUSTICE AND UNDERSTANDING. SO I
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SPEAK TODAY AS HER VOICE. IN
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SUPPORT OF SB 300, WHICH WOULD
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ALLOW THE JUDGE TO DISCRETION TO
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SENTENCE 25 YEARS TO LIFE
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WITHOUT MANDATORY LIFE WITHOUT
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PAROLE AS BEING THEIR ONLY
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CHOICE. WHEN THE D A S OUR
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FAMILY ABOUT THE DEATH PENALTY,
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OUR ANSWER WAS RESOUNDINGLY. NO
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BECAUSE WE BELIEVED IN THE
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SANCTITY OF LIFE AND THAT A
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PERSON CAN CHANGE. 31 YEARS
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LATER, I LEARNED THAT THE
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PERPETRATOR HAD BEEN SENTENCED
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UNDER THE CHARGES OF FELONY
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MURDER. WITH SPECIAL
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CIRCUMSTANCES AND MANDATORY LIFE
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WITHOUT PAROLE. EL WAFA BRAND
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NEW TERM TO ME. THIS WAS DEEPLY
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CONCERNING AND SEEMED TO BE AN
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OVERREACH OF THE LAW. IN OUR
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CASE. THE PERSON DID NOT INTEND
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TO KILL MY SISTER. YES HE SHOULD
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BE JUSTLY PUNISHED FOR HIS
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CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR. BUT HE DIDN'T
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MURDER MY SISTER. ELAINE WOULD
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NEVER HAVE SUPPORTED HIS VIRTUAL
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DEATH SENTENCE. OF L WOP. IN THE
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SENTENCE ITSELF HAS NOT
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CONTRIBUTED ANYTHING TO OUR
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HEALING. WELL VICTIMS. FAMILIES
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ARE VERY DIVERSE. MANY SHARE MY
00:36:33.491 --> 00:36:35.693
PERSPECTIVE. AND THEN CLOSING. I
00:36:35.760 --> 00:36:37.662
BESEECH YOU. LET THE PUNISHMENT
00:36:37.728 --> 00:36:42.934
THAT THE CRIME. THERE ARE
00:36:43.000 --> 00:36:43.634
DEMOCRACY TRULY EMBRACE AND
00:36:43.701 --> 00:36:46.804
SUPPORT. RESTORATIVE JUSTICE AND
00:36:46.871 --> 00:36:51.008
REHABILITATION. AND MAY WE
00:36:51.075 --> 00:36:52.543
ALWAYS BE GUIDED BY THE WISDOM
00:36:52.610 --> 00:36:54.078
THERE IS NO JUSTICE WITHOUT
00:36:54.145 --> 00:36:59.951
MERCY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
00:37:00.017 --> 00:37:03.821
GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. MY NAME
00:37:03.888 --> 00:37:05.890
IS TOMMY COOPER GARVIN. I WAS
00:37:05.957 --> 00:37:07.525
INCARCERATED FOR 28 YEARS FOR
00:37:07.592 --> 00:37:10.294
SURVIVING FIRST SURVIVING SEX
00:37:10.361 --> 00:37:11.329
TRAFFICKING AND DOMESTIC
00:37:11.395 --> 00:37:13.331
VIOLENCE. WHEN I WAS 32 I WAS
00:37:13.397 --> 00:37:14.932
CHARGED AS AN ACCOMPLICE, NFL
00:37:14.999 --> 00:37:16.834
THE MURDER CASE AND SENTENCED TO
00:37:16.901 --> 00:37:18.069
LIFE WITHOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF
00:37:18.135 --> 00:37:19.070
PAROLE CRIME. MY ABUSER
00:37:19.136 --> 00:37:21.505
COMMITTED. I HAD NO INTENT TO
00:37:21.572 --> 00:37:23.841
HURT ANYBODY AND DID NOT AND DID
00:37:23.908 --> 00:37:25.943
NOT INTEND TO KILL ANYBODY. AND
00:37:26.010 --> 00:37:27.511
EVERYONE, INCLUDING THE D. A.
00:37:27.578 --> 00:37:29.847
KNEW IT.I WAS ONLY 14 YEARS OLD
00:37:29.914 --> 00:37:31.816
WHEN I WAS SIX, TRAPPED. AND BY
00:37:31.882 --> 00:37:33.851
THE TIME I WAS SENTENCED TO DIE
00:37:33.918 --> 00:37:35.119
IN PRISON AT SUFFERED DECADES OF
00:37:35.186 --> 00:37:36.821
ABUSE I WAS 32 WHEN MY LATEST
00:37:36.887 --> 00:37:38.422
ABUSER PRESSURED ME INTO ST
00:37:38.489 --> 00:37:41.158
SENSES, WHICH OF MY CLIENTS HE
00:37:41.225 --> 00:37:42.927
MIGHT BE ABLE TO ROB. I DROVE
00:37:42.994 --> 00:37:44.295
HIM TO THE SCENE AND WHEN IT
00:37:44.362 --> 00:37:46.030
SEEMED LIKE IT WAS TAKING HIM
00:37:46.097 --> 00:37:48.299
TOO LONG TO RETURN AND WENT INTO
00:37:48.366 --> 00:37:49.800
THE BUILDING TO DISCOVER HE HAD
00:37:49.867 --> 00:37:51.902
KILLED THE MAN, TERRIFIED AND
00:37:51.969 --> 00:37:52.470
TRAUMATIZED. I RAN FROM THE
00:37:52.536 --> 00:37:53.237
SCENE WITH HIM. MYANMAR ABUSER
00:37:53.304 --> 00:37:54.705
WERE BOTH CHARGED WITH MURDER.
00:37:54.772 --> 00:37:56.207
THE D A USED THE FILMING MURDER
00:37:56.273 --> 00:37:57.575
ROLE TO HOLD US EQUALLY
00:37:57.642 --> 00:38:00.578
RESPONSIBLE, EVEN THOUGH I DID
00:38:00.645 --> 00:38:01.812
NOT MURDER THE MAN OR INTEND FOR
00:38:01.879 --> 00:38:03.614
HIM TO BE HURTING IN ANY WAY.
00:38:03.681 --> 00:38:04.181
FROM FACING 12. MY ABUSER
00:38:04.248 --> 00:38:06.484
THREATENED TO KILL ME AND MY
00:38:06.550 --> 00:38:07.518
FATHER IF WE TESTIFIED AGAINST
00:38:07.585 --> 00:38:09.453
HIM. I BELIEVED HIM BECAUSE I
00:38:09.520 --> 00:38:10.488
HAD SEEN SOMEONE DIE AT HIS
00:38:10.554 --> 00:38:11.455
HANDS. EVEN THOUGH MY ABUSER
00:38:11.522 --> 00:38:13.524
ADMITTED TO MY FATHER THAT HE
00:38:13.591 --> 00:38:14.659
COMMITTED THE MURDER THE POLICE
00:38:14.725 --> 00:38:16.594
BOUGHT HANDLING PENALTY OF THE
00:38:16.661 --> 00:38:18.362
EVIDENCE, AND MY FATHER AND I
00:38:18.429 --> 00:38:19.897
DID NOT TESTIFY BECAUSE WE
00:38:19.964 --> 00:38:21.766
FEARED FOR OUR LIVES. MY ABUSER
00:38:21.832 --> 00:38:24.402
WAS ACQUITTED OF MURDER. DURING
00:38:24.468 --> 00:38:26.270
MY TRIAL, THE COURT OF NORTH OF
00:38:26.337 --> 00:38:28.072
VIOLENCE EXPERIENCED BY MANY
00:38:28.139 --> 00:38:29.807
TRAFFICKERS AND ABUSERS INCLUDE
00:38:29.874 --> 00:38:31.976
INCLUDING MY CURRENT ABUSER WHO
00:38:32.043 --> 00:38:33.844
THEY KNEW KILLED THE MAN, I
00:38:33.911 --> 00:38:35.379
ALWAYS TOOK RESPONSIBILITY FOR
00:38:35.446 --> 00:38:36.781
MY ACTUAL ROLE, BUT TRUTH DIDN'T
00:38:36.847 --> 00:38:41.085
MATTER. AS A BLACK WOMAN WITH A
00:38:41.152 --> 00:38:42.186
CRIMINAL RECORD FOR PROSTITUTION
00:38:42.253 --> 00:38:43.854
CHARGES. IT WAS EASIER FOR THEM
00:38:43.921 --> 00:38:45.623
TO DO TO DISCRIMINATE AGAINST ME
00:38:45.690 --> 00:38:47.525
AND BLAME ME FOR SOMEONE ELSE'S
00:38:47.591 --> 00:38:50.061
VIOLENCE. THESE BACKWARDS LAWS
00:38:50.127 --> 00:38:51.996
TOOK 28 YEARS OF MY LIFE AND
00:38:52.063 --> 00:38:54.098
MADE THE BEST OF IT AND WORKED
00:38:54.165 --> 00:38:55.199
HARD TO HELP OTHER SURVIVORS IN
00:38:55.266 --> 00:38:56.200
PRISON. THANKFULLY I WAS
00:38:56.267 --> 00:38:58.069
COMMUTED BY GOVERNOR BROWN,
00:38:58.135 --> 00:38:59.870
WHICH IS WHY IT CAN BE HERE
00:38:59.937 --> 00:39:01.138
TODAY. BUT THAT IS NOT THE
00:39:01.205 --> 00:39:03.040
SOLUTION TO THIS PROBLEM. THIS
00:39:03.107 --> 00:39:04.108
HAPPENS TO SO MANY WOMEN. WE
00:39:04.175 --> 00:39:05.943
NEED TO CHANGE THIS TERRIBLE LAW
00:39:06.010 --> 00:39:08.345
. WE NEED SB 300 TO MAKE SURE
00:39:08.412 --> 00:39:09.947
PEOPLE ARE NOT SENTENCED TO DIE
00:39:10.014 --> 00:39:12.349
FOR OTHERS ACTIONS AS A SURVIVOR
00:39:12.416 --> 00:39:13.851
. I SUPPORT THIS BILL, PLEASE
00:39:13.918 --> 00:39:15.352
PREVENT OTHER SURVIVORS LIKE ME
00:39:15.419 --> 00:39:16.520
FROM FACING DEATH BY
00:39:16.587 --> 00:39:17.188
INCARCERATION OR EXECUTION.
00:39:17.254 --> 00:39:21.158
THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU.
00:39:21.225 --> 00:39:22.927
ARE THERE ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
00:39:22.993 --> 00:39:24.361
IN THE HEARING ROOM AND SUPPORT
00:39:24.428 --> 00:39:29.967
OF SB 300? NAME AND
00:39:30.034 --> 00:39:33.971
ORGANIZATION. NATASHA INSTAGRAM
00:39:34.038 --> 00:39:35.339
BEHALF OF SMART JUSTICE,
00:39:35.406 --> 00:39:36.373
CALIFORNIA AND THE PROSECUTORS
00:39:36.440 --> 00:39:37.541
ALLIANCE OF CALIFORNIANS STRONG
00:39:37.608 --> 00:39:42.747
SUPPORT. QUÊ. GOOD MORNING,
00:39:42.813 --> 00:39:43.681
GLENN BACCHUS FOR ELLA BAKER
00:39:43.748 --> 00:39:45.149
CENTER FOR HUMAN RIGHTS. I WAS
00:39:45.216 --> 00:39:46.650
ASKED BY OTHER ORGANIZATIONS TO
00:39:46.717 --> 00:39:47.985
READ THEIR NAMES INTO THE RECORD
00:39:48.052 --> 00:39:49.186
RATHER THAN HAVE THEM ALL. COLIN
00:39:49.253 --> 00:39:50.688
SEPARATELY. THE NATIONAL CENTER
00:39:50.755 --> 00:39:52.757
FOR LESBIAN RIGHTS. SAN
00:39:52.823 --> 00:39:53.691
FRANCISCO PUBLIC DEFENDER'S
00:39:53.758 --> 00:39:56.293
OFFICE STARTING OVER GLIDE
00:39:56.360 --> 00:39:58.295
MEMORIAL CHURCH, THE EIGHTH
00:39:58.362 --> 00:39:59.196
AMENDMENT PROJECT. ASIAN
00:39:59.263 --> 00:40:00.097
AMERICANS ADVANCING JUSTICE
00:40:00.164 --> 00:40:01.599
CALIFORNIA PRISON FROM THE
00:40:01.665 --> 00:40:06.370
INSIDE OUT. BEND THE ARC JEWISH
00:40:06.437 --> 00:40:07.471
ACTION ALL IN SUPPORT. THANK
00:40:07.538 --> 00:40:09.240
YOU. THANK YOU. THE JUSTICE
00:40:09.306 --> 00:40:15.312
GROUP AND SUPPORT. CANADA'S
00:40:15.379 --> 00:40:16.947
CHÁVEZ WILSON IN STRONG SUPPORT
00:40:17.014 --> 00:40:18.849
FROM ELLA BAKER. CENTER FUEL
00:40:18.916 --> 00:40:20.050
FAMILIES UNITED TO END L WOP CCW
00:40:20.117 --> 00:40:25.055
P. THANK YOU STRONG SUPPORT. I
00:40:25.122 --> 00:40:26.257
CALLED THE LENS AND SUPPORT FROM
00:40:26.323 --> 00:40:27.358
CALIFORNIA COALITION FOR WOMEN
00:40:27.424 --> 00:40:28.959
PRISONERS AND READING A LIST OF
00:40:29.026 --> 00:40:30.427
ORGANIZATIONS AS WELL SURGE BAY
00:40:30.494 --> 00:40:32.630
AREA VOICES FOR PROGRESS, FAMILY
00:40:32.696 --> 00:40:33.998
FAMILY UNITY COALITION FRIENDS
00:40:34.064 --> 00:40:34.932
COMMITTEE ON LEGISLATION OF
00:40:34.999 --> 00:40:38.836
CALIFORNIA. SERGE MARIN, SHOWING
00:40:38.903 --> 00:40:40.304
UP FOR RACIAL JUSTICE. SAN
00:40:40.371 --> 00:40:42.339
BERNARDINO FT. A PROJECT AMIGA
00:40:42.406 --> 00:40:46.677
AND THE COLLAB. THANK YOU. HE'S
00:40:46.744 --> 00:40:47.845
A BROWN ELEVATOR CENTER STRONG
00:40:47.912 --> 00:40:54.218
SUPPORT. JAMIL WILSON, FORMERLY
00:40:54.285 --> 00:40:55.786
, UM, FORMER L WOP ALSO
00:40:55.853 --> 00:40:57.788
COMMUTED. I'M IN SUPPORT OF SB
00:40:57.855 --> 00:41:00.391
300. AND I'M HERE TO REPRESENT
00:41:00.457 --> 00:41:01.692
ALL THOSE THAT ARE STILL SERVING
00:41:01.759 --> 00:41:03.527
TIME WITH THE L WOP SENTENCE
00:41:03.594 --> 00:41:05.296
THAT THIS BILL WOULD HAVE HELPED
00:41:05.362 --> 00:41:07.064
HELPED THEM JUST LIKE IT COULD
00:41:07.131 --> 00:41:08.933
HAVE HELPED ME. THANK YOU. THANK
00:41:08.999 --> 00:41:12.970
YOU. HELLO MY NAME IS EMILY
00:41:13.037 --> 00:41:15.072
ROSE. I HAVE A LOVED ONE WHO IS
00:41:15.139 --> 00:41:16.407
INCARCERATED FOR OH, UP. UM I AM
00:41:16.473 --> 00:41:18.142
ALSO READING IN SUPPORT OF SB
00:41:18.209 --> 00:41:19.343
300 READING THESE ORGANIZATIONS
00:41:19.410 --> 00:41:22.179
THAT ARE ALSO IN SUPPORT. THE
00:41:22.246 --> 00:41:24.982
SALVADORI ALVAREZ INSTITUTE FOR
00:41:25.049 --> 00:41:26.717
NONVIOLENCE. ONE MORE CHANCE
00:41:26.784 --> 00:41:28.953
CARE FIRST CALIFORNIA WESTERN
00:41:29.019 --> 00:41:29.620
REGIONAL ADVOCACY PROJECT
00:41:29.687 --> 00:41:30.788
FUTURES WITHOUT VIOLENCE. FOR
00:41:30.855 --> 00:41:35.226
THE PEOPLE. DIGNITY AND POWER
00:41:35.292 --> 00:41:36.360
NOW ORGAN CURE AND SECURE
00:41:36.427 --> 00:41:41.198
JUSTICE. THANK YOU. EMILY WONDER
00:41:41.265 --> 00:41:43.067
ON BEHALF OF THE YOUNG WOMEN'S
00:41:43.133 --> 00:41:44.101
FREEDOM CENTER AND SISTER
00:41:44.168 --> 00:41:45.035
WARRIORS, FREEDOM COALITION AND
00:41:45.102 --> 00:41:49.440
STRONG SUPPORT. MY NAME IS DR
00:41:49.506 --> 00:41:50.941
ELISA B AREA AND WITH SURVIVED
00:41:51.008 --> 00:41:52.843
AND PUNISHED, WHICH ADVOCATES
00:41:52.910 --> 00:41:54.044
FOR CRIMINALIZED SURVIVORS OF
00:41:54.111 --> 00:41:56.313
DOMESTIC AND SEXUAL VIOLENCE. WE
00:41:56.380 --> 00:42:01.819
STRONGLY SUPPORT SB 300. MY NAME
00:42:01.886 --> 00:42:03.854
. MY NAME IS XAVIER SPAGNA WITH
00:42:03.921 --> 00:42:04.889
SILICON VALLEY DE BUG. I AM IN
00:42:04.955 --> 00:42:08.459
SUPPORT OF SB 300. UM MY BROTHER
00:42:08.525 --> 00:42:12.396
WAS GIVEN AN L WOP CASE. AND
00:42:12.463 --> 00:42:13.631
ISN'T GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO
00:42:13.697 --> 00:42:14.465
BE CONSIDERED REHABILITATED.
00:42:14.531 --> 00:42:20.337
THANK YOU. ALMOST GOING TO READ
00:42:20.404 --> 00:42:21.305
IT. SOME ORGANIZATIONS, FAITH
00:42:21.372 --> 00:42:22.973
AND ACTION, EAST BAY CITY CR
00:42:23.040 --> 00:42:23.874
SUPPORT AND INFO PRISON LIFE
00:42:23.941 --> 00:42:25.409
SUPPORT GROUP. FAIR CHANCE
00:42:25.476 --> 00:42:29.179
PROJECT. FAMILY UNITED TO END UP
00:42:29.246 --> 00:42:31.115
SHOWING UP FOR RACIAL JUSTICE AT
00:42:31.181 --> 00:42:32.983
SACRED HEART COMMUNITY SERVICE
00:42:33.050 --> 00:42:37.121
GO TO CREW. COURAGE, CALIFORNIA.
00:42:37.187 --> 00:42:39.456
SERGE MORAN SHOW ENOUGH FOR
00:42:39.523 --> 00:42:41.125
RACIAL JUSTICE, EMPOWERING WOMEN
00:42:41.191 --> 00:42:42.559
IMPACTED BY INCARCERATION. THANK
00:42:42.626 --> 00:42:48.065
YOU. THANK YOU. HI I'M JOANNE
00:42:48.132 --> 00:42:50.467
CHEER ON BEHALF OF FELONY MURDER
00:42:50.534 --> 00:42:51.468
ELIMINATION PROJECT IN STRONG
00:42:51.535 --> 00:42:54.238
SUPPORT. I'D LIKE TO READ A LIST
00:42:54.305 --> 00:42:55.940
OF ORGANIZATIONS WHO WOULD ALSO
00:42:56.006 --> 00:42:58.609
LIKE TO ADD THEIR SUPPORT, ROUTE
00:42:58.676 --> 00:43:00.277
AND REBOUND, A NEW WAY OF LIFE,
00:43:00.344 --> 00:43:01.412
CALIFORNIANS FOR SAFETY AND
00:43:01.478 --> 00:43:05.182
JUSTICE. FAMILIES AGAINST
00:43:05.249 --> 00:43:06.183
MANDATORY MINIMUMS HUMAN IMPACT
00:43:06.250 --> 00:43:09.687
PARTNERS. JESSE'S PLACE
00:43:09.753 --> 00:43:12.089
ORGANIZATION MIL PER CALIFORNIA
00:43:12.156 --> 00:43:13.257
LEAGUE OF UNITED LATIN AMERICAN
00:43:13.324 --> 00:43:16.260
CITIZENS. NATIONAL ASSOCIATION
00:43:16.327 --> 00:43:17.294
OF SOCIAL WORKERS, CALIFORNIA
00:43:17.361 --> 00:43:20.597
CHAPTER. PRISONER HUNGER STRIKE
00:43:20.664 --> 00:43:23.300
SOLIDARITY COALITION AND
00:43:23.367 --> 00:43:23.834
ADVANCINGJUSTICE ASIAN LAW
00:43:23.901 --> 00:43:29.907
CAUCUS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. MY
00:43:29.974 --> 00:43:31.375
NAME IS ALICIA CHAVEZ. I'M AN
00:43:31.442 --> 00:43:32.609
ORGANIZER. WHAT? SILICON VALLEY
00:43:32.676 --> 00:43:38.415
DEBUG AND I SUPPORT SP 300. THE
00:43:38.482 --> 00:43:39.984
MORNING. MY NAME IS BONIVA HARM
00:43:40.050 --> 00:43:41.185
A COMMUNITY ORGANIZER WITH
00:43:41.251 --> 00:43:43.587
SILICON VALLEY DE BUG AND I'M IN
00:43:43.654 --> 00:43:45.723
STRONG SUPPORT OF SB 300. I'D
00:43:45.789 --> 00:43:48.025
LIKE TO LEAVE START WITH THE
00:43:48.092 --> 00:43:49.226
LIST OF OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT
00:43:49.293 --> 00:43:52.463
ARE IN SUPPORT OF SB 300. FAITH
00:43:52.529 --> 00:43:54.431
IN ACTION. EAST BAY, INDIVISIBLE
00:43:54.498 --> 00:43:56.333
CALIFORNIA STATE STRONG
00:43:56.400 --> 00:43:58.602
CALIFORNIA ALLIANCE FOR YOUTH
00:43:58.669 --> 00:44:00.471
AND COMMUNITY JUSTICE, PEOPLE'S
00:44:00.537 --> 00:44:01.271
POTTERY PROJECT SPECIAL
00:44:01.338 --> 00:44:02.106
CIRCUMSTANCES CONVICTION
00:44:02.172 --> 00:44:05.709
PROJECT. CALIFORNIA CATHOLIC
00:44:05.776 --> 00:44:07.478
CONFERENCE, SAN MATEO COUNTY
00:44:07.544 --> 00:44:09.680
COALITION FOR IMMIGRANT RIGHTS,
00:44:09.747 --> 00:44:11.115
LEGAL SERVICES FOR PRISONERS
00:44:11.181 --> 00:44:12.583
WITH CHILDREN OVER TIME, REACT
00:44:12.649 --> 00:44:15.252
REALTY. AND JESUS PRAYER
00:44:15.319 --> 00:44:19.923
MINISTRY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
00:44:19.990 --> 00:44:21.725
GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS YOLANDA
00:44:21.792 --> 00:44:23.027
DESMOND. I'M AN ORGANIZER WITH
00:44:23.093 --> 00:44:25.329
SILICON VALLEY DEBUG. I ALSO
00:44:25.396 --> 00:44:26.263
HAVE A LOVED ONE SERVING LIFE
00:44:26.330 --> 00:44:28.265
WITHOUT FULL, UM AND THEN STRONG
00:44:28.332 --> 00:44:31.668
SUPPORT OF SB 300. I LIKE TO
00:44:31.735 --> 00:44:32.703
READ A LIST OF ORGANISMS
00:44:32.770 --> 00:44:35.072
ORGANIZATIONS ALSO IN SUPPORT
00:44:35.139 --> 00:44:36.473
CALIFORNIA PARTNERSHIP TO END
00:44:36.540 --> 00:44:38.742
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IMMIGRANT
00:44:38.809 --> 00:44:39.943
LEGAL RESOURCE CENTER INTERFAITH
00:44:40.010 --> 00:44:43.313
MOVEMENT FOR HUMAN INTEGRITY.
00:44:43.380 --> 00:44:45.983
CURE CALIFORNIA VETERANS HEALING
00:44:46.050 --> 00:44:47.518
VETERANS FROM THE INSIDE OUT
00:44:47.584 --> 00:44:49.853
WHITE PEOPLE FOR BLACK LIVES AND
00:44:49.920 --> 00:44:50.487
SAN MATEO COUNTY. PARTICIPATORY
00:44:50.554 --> 00:44:56.527
DEFENSE. THANK YOU. RAJAT OF
00:44:56.593 --> 00:44:57.995
SILICON VALLEY DEBUG, A CO
00:44:58.062 --> 00:45:00.130
SPONSOR RECIPE 300 ALSO IN
00:45:00.197 --> 00:45:02.733
STRONG SUPPORT AND WANT TO LIST
00:45:02.800 --> 00:45:03.400
THE FOLLOWING ORGANIZATIONS ALSO
00:45:03.467 --> 00:45:04.768
IN SUPPORT CENTER FOR EMPLOYMENT
00:45:04.835 --> 00:45:05.769
OPPORTUNITIES. CALIFORNIA LEAGUE
00:45:05.836 --> 00:45:06.703
OF UNITED LATIN AMERICAN
00:45:06.770 --> 00:45:09.907
CITIZENS. CALIFORNIA LINES FOR
00:45:09.973 --> 00:45:11.375
YOUTH AND COMMUNITY JUSTICE.
00:45:11.442 --> 00:45:13.710
INITIATE JUSTICE. SAN DIEGO COP
00:45:13.777 --> 00:45:14.745
WATCH COMMUNITIES UNITED FOR
00:45:14.812 --> 00:45:15.779
RESTORATIVE JUSTICE AND ON
00:45:15.846 --> 00:45:21.351
COMMON LAW. THANK YOU. DANICA
00:45:21.418 --> 00:45:22.186
ROAD, ARMAGH ON BEHALF OF THE
00:45:22.252 --> 00:45:23.854
TRANSFORMATIVE IN PRISON
00:45:23.921 --> 00:45:24.855
WORKGROUP AND CALIFORNIA PUBLIC
00:45:24.922 --> 00:45:25.622
DEFENDERS ASSOCIATION AND
00:45:25.689 --> 00:45:29.860
SUPPORT QUÊ. GOOD MORNING,
00:45:29.927 --> 00:45:31.428
SHARON MEMBERS IN LITTLE WITH
00:45:31.495 --> 00:45:32.963
CALIFORNIANS FOR SAFETY AND
00:45:33.030 --> 00:45:34.164
JUSTICE AND STRONG SUPPORT IN
00:45:34.231 --> 00:45:35.933
TIME DONE IN STRONG SUPPORT.
00:45:35.999 --> 00:45:40.838
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HI I'M
00:45:40.904 --> 00:45:41.939
AUDREY SPECIAL. I WAS A JUROR ON
00:45:42.005 --> 00:45:44.541
THE CRIMINAL TRIAL. UM AND WE
00:45:44.608 --> 00:45:46.510
ONLY FOUND OUT AFTER THE TRIAL
00:45:46.577 --> 00:45:48.946
THAT THE PERSON'S WE'RE GOING TO
00:45:49.012 --> 00:45:50.247
BE SENTENCED TO LIFE WITHOUT
00:45:50.314 --> 00:45:51.548
POSSIBILITY OF PAROLE, WHICH IS
00:45:51.615 --> 00:45:53.250
A DEATH SENTENCE, AND I'M
00:45:53.317 --> 00:45:53.851
AGAINST THIS SENTENCE. HIGHLY
00:45:53.917 --> 00:45:56.653
OUTRAGE THAT THIS IS THE CASE
00:45:56.720 --> 00:45:57.988
FOR SOMEONE, SO I JUST THOUGHT I
00:45:58.055 --> 00:45:59.156
RAISED MY VOICE. THANK YOU VERY
00:45:59.223 --> 00:46:05.095
MUCH. NO WE'LL GO TO THE PHONE
00:46:05.162 --> 00:46:06.563
LINES. ARE THERE ANYONE IN
00:46:06.630 --> 00:46:08.799
SUPPORT OPERATOR OPENED UP THE
00:46:08.866 --> 00:46:09.967
PHONE LINES FOR SB 300. IN
00:46:10.033 --> 00:46:14.872
SUPPORT. MR THANK YOU, MR CHAIR
00:46:14.938 --> 00:46:16.473
. YEAH FOR THOSE PARTICIPANTS ON
00:46:16.540 --> 00:46:18.742
THE PHONE IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE
00:46:18.809 --> 00:46:20.777
A COMMENT IN SUPPORT OF SB 300,
00:46:20.844 --> 00:46:22.346
PLEASE PRESS 10. IN FIRST WORLD
00:46:22.412 --> 00:46:24.882
LINE. 51. PLEASE GO AHEAD.
00:46:24.948 --> 00:46:30.020
LOOKED AT IT. HI GOOD MORNING. I
00:46:30.087 --> 00:46:31.121
WAS ASSIGNED 51, BUT I'M
00:46:31.188 --> 00:46:33.290
ACTUALLY IN OPPOSITION. SO AND I
00:46:33.357 --> 00:46:37.227
SAY MY. YOUR NAME AND
00:46:37.294 --> 00:46:38.262
ORGANIZATION OPPOSITION. GO
00:46:38.328 --> 00:46:43.100
AHEAD. OKAY EXCELLENT. UM MY
00:46:43.167 --> 00:46:44.468
NAME IS BRANDON ZAVALA AND
00:46:44.535 --> 00:46:46.503
CALLING ON BEHALF OF ANYONE
00:46:46.570 --> 00:46:48.105
COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY SUMMER
00:46:48.172 --> 00:46:50.707
STUFF IN AND WE ARE OPPOSED TO
00:46:50.774 --> 00:46:56.313
BE 300. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
00:46:56.380 --> 00:46:58.348
NEXT WE GO TO LINE 52, PLEASE GO
00:46:58.415 --> 00:47:01.652
AHEAD. GOOD MORNING, ISABELLA.
00:47:01.718 --> 00:47:03.487
OUR QUOTA ON BEHALF OF NERO
00:47:03.554 --> 00:47:04.488
APPROACH CHOICE CALIFORNIA AND
00:47:04.555 --> 00:47:09.026
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. NEXT WE GO
00:47:09.092 --> 00:47:13.197
TO LINE 25, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
00:47:13.263 --> 00:47:15.365
JOANNE PARK FROM A C L U
00:47:15.432 --> 00:47:16.600
CALIFORNIA ACTION IN SUPPORT.
00:47:16.667 --> 00:47:22.105
THANK YOU. AND WE'LL GO TO LINE
00:47:22.172 --> 00:47:26.176
53. PLEASE GO AHEAD. CHAIR AND
00:47:26.243 --> 00:47:27.444
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE ON
00:47:27.511 --> 00:47:29.079
UNIONS ON BEHALF OF THE ANTI
00:47:29.146 --> 00:47:31.181
RECIDIVISM COALITION, A PROUD CO
00:47:31.248 --> 00:47:32.416
SPONSOR OF THIS BILL. UM,
00:47:32.482 --> 00:47:37.221
PROBABLY IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
00:47:37.287 --> 00:47:38.555
AND NEXTGO TO LINE 33. PLEASE
00:47:38.622 --> 00:47:42.659
GO AHEAD. HI THIS IS MARK AMADOR
00:47:42.726 --> 00:47:47.497
ON BEHALF OF CD A, UM THE NOTION
00:47:47.564 --> 00:47:49.132
THAT THE FELONY MURDER SPECIAL
00:47:49.199 --> 00:47:50.601
CIRCUMSTANCES RULES ARE
00:47:50.667 --> 00:47:51.969
UNCONSTITUTIONAL, TOO EXPANSIVE
00:47:52.035 --> 00:47:53.971
AND DO NOT ADEQUATELY LIMITED
00:47:54.037 --> 00:47:54.504
PROSECUTORS FROM CHARGING
00:47:54.571 --> 00:48:04.448
ORGANIZATION. IS UNTRUE. CDVA.
00:48:04.514 --> 00:48:05.716
AND WE'LL GO TO THE LINE. 37,
00:48:05.782 --> 00:48:13.190
PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI GOOD
00:48:13.257 --> 00:48:14.224
MORNING. THIS IS ANDREW MUSE
00:48:14.291 --> 00:48:16.493
FISHER WITH THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN
00:48:16.560 --> 00:48:17.694
VOTERS OF CALIFORNIA AND WE ARE
00:48:17.761 --> 00:48:21.865
IN STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
00:48:21.932 --> 00:48:23.300
AND MR CHAIR AND NO FURTHER
00:48:23.367 --> 00:48:25.469
COMMENTS INTO YOU. AT THIS TIME.
00:48:25.535 --> 00:48:26.803
YOU WILL NOW HAVE WITNESSES AND
00:48:26.870 --> 00:48:47.090
OPPOSITION. Ì1.
00:48:47.157 --> 00:48:48.325
GOT FIVE MINUTES TOTAL WHENEVER
00:48:48.392 --> 00:48:49.126
YOU'RE READY TO BEGIN. GOOD
00:48:49.192 --> 00:48:52.929
MORNING, MR CHAIR. MY NAME IS
00:48:52.996 --> 00:48:54.564
LAUREN PETTIGREW. I'M HONORED TO
00:48:54.631 --> 00:48:56.500
BE HERE AS A VOICE FOR THE
00:48:56.566 --> 00:48:57.734
VICTIMS AND SURVIVING FAMILIES
00:48:57.801 --> 00:49:00.137
LIKE MINE. IN 2000 AND SEVEN MY
00:49:00.203 --> 00:49:02.372
22 YEAR OLD BROTHER, DAVID
00:49:02.439 --> 00:49:03.874
PETTIGREW WAS MURDERED IN LONG
00:49:03.940 --> 00:49:05.676
BEACH BY THREE MARINES WHO BROKE
00:49:05.742 --> 00:49:07.511
INTO HIS APARTMENT WHILE HE WAS
00:49:07.577 --> 00:49:09.212
ASLEEP. THE SHOOTER WAS A
00:49:09.279 --> 00:49:10.380
STRANGER TO DAVID. HE WAS
00:49:10.447 --> 00:49:12.349
RECRUITED AS AN UNPAID HITMAN BY
00:49:12.416 --> 00:49:14.051
ANTHONY VIGEN, THE SUBJECT OF
00:49:14.117 --> 00:49:16.720
THIS BILL AND HIS COUSIN. THEY
00:49:16.787 --> 00:49:18.455
TOOK ADVANTAGE OF HIM BECAUSE HE
00:49:18.522 --> 00:49:19.723
HAD A GUN AND COULD BE EASILY
00:49:19.790 --> 00:49:21.491
MANIPULATED. TO DO WITH THE
00:49:21.558 --> 00:49:24.027
MURDER THAT THEY DESIRED. THE
00:49:24.094 --> 00:49:25.362
SHOOTER PLED GUILTY TO ALL
00:49:25.429 --> 00:49:26.997
CHARGES AND ADMITTED THROUGH A
00:49:27.064 --> 00:49:29.399
SWORN TESTIMONY WITHOUT A DEAL
00:49:29.466 --> 00:49:30.901
THAT HE SHOT MY BROTHER IN THE
00:49:30.967 --> 00:49:31.568
HEAD EXECUTION STYLE BECAUSE
00:49:31.635 --> 00:49:35.939
VIRGIN ASKED HIM TO. ALL THREE
00:49:36.006 --> 00:49:36.940
WERE CONVICTED OF FIRST DEGREE
00:49:37.007 --> 00:49:38.108
MURDER AND FOUND GUILTY OF TWO
00:49:38.175 --> 00:49:40.444
SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES. THIS
00:49:40.510 --> 00:49:42.379
STORY SHOULD NOT BE UNFAMILIAR
00:49:42.446 --> 00:49:44.147
ANTHONY VIGILANTE KNOWN TO YOU
00:49:44.214 --> 00:49:46.983
NOW, AS TONY IS THE FACE OF THE
00:49:47.050 --> 00:49:48.919
BILL. TONY DID NOT SELL HIS
00:49:48.985 --> 00:49:50.721
LAPTOP FOR GAS MONEY TO VISIT
00:49:50.787 --> 00:49:52.389
HIS MOM. AND NO ONE EXPERIENCE A
00:49:52.456 --> 00:49:54.591
PTSD EPISODE IN THE APARTMENT.
00:49:54.658 --> 00:49:56.960
THESE ARE UNTRUTH. SUPPORTERS OF
00:49:57.027 --> 00:49:59.629
SB 300 WOULD HAVE YOU BELIEVE
00:49:59.696 --> 00:50:01.031
THESE NEW DETAILS WERE NOT EVEN
00:50:01.098 --> 00:50:03.533
PART OF THE LEGAL DEFENSE. YET
00:50:03.600 --> 00:50:04.134
TONY IS THE POSTER CHILD FOR
00:50:04.201 --> 00:50:07.771
WHO? THE PROPONENTS OF SP 300.
00:50:07.838 --> 00:50:09.406
THEY WANT YOU TO BELIEVE THAT,
00:50:09.473 --> 00:50:11.875
TONY, NOT MY BROTHER IS A VICTIM
00:50:11.942 --> 00:50:14.478
AND THAT ALL PEOPLE LIKE TONY
00:50:14.544 --> 00:50:15.545
AND OTHER HEINOUS MURDERERS
00:50:15.612 --> 00:50:18.448
DESERVE TO BE SET FREE. IT IS
00:50:18.515 --> 00:50:20.450
NOT A MISTAKE THAT TONY WAS
00:50:20.517 --> 00:50:21.351
SENTENCED TO TELL WHAT IT IS
00:50:21.418 --> 00:50:23.053
BECAUSE OF THE FELONY MURDER.
00:50:23.120 --> 00:50:24.888
SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCE RULE THAT
00:50:24.955 --> 00:50:26.656
ALL PEOPLE LIKE TONY GUILTY OF
00:50:26.723 --> 00:50:27.891
FIRST DEGREE MURDER IN ADDITION
00:50:27.958 --> 00:50:30.460
TO BEING GUILTY OF ACTING AND
00:50:30.527 --> 00:50:31.895
RECKLESS INDIFFERENCE FOR HUMAN
00:50:31.962 --> 00:50:34.097
LIFE AND AS A PARTICIPANT IN A
00:50:34.164 --> 00:50:37.000
SERIOUS SPECIFIED FELONY, WHICH
00:50:37.067 --> 00:50:38.068
RESULTED IN DEATH FACE THE
00:50:38.135 --> 00:50:39.870
MANDATORY SENTENCE OF L WOP OR
00:50:39.936 --> 00:50:41.037
DEATH. SO THAT THEY CAN'T DO
00:50:41.104 --> 00:50:43.807
THIS AGAIN. THESE ARE NOT
00:50:43.874 --> 00:50:45.142
GETAWAY DRIVERS. THESE ARE THE
00:50:45.208 --> 00:50:46.877
REAL MONSTERS. MY FAMILY HAS
00:50:46.943 --> 00:50:50.414
BEEN BROKEN FOR 15 YEARS. WE ARE
00:50:50.480 --> 00:50:52.349
TRUTHFULLY HAUNTED ON A DAILY
00:50:52.416 --> 00:50:54.551
BASIS, AND I'M AFRAID THAT WILL
00:50:54.618 --> 00:50:56.887
NEVER GO AWAY. IMAGINE HAVING
00:50:56.953 --> 00:50:59.222
YOUR ONLY SON OR ONLY SIBLING
00:50:59.289 --> 00:51:00.357
RIPPED AWAY FROM YOU AT THE
00:51:00.424 --> 00:51:03.760
HANDS OF ANOTHER. MY BABY BOYS
00:51:03.827 --> 00:51:04.494
WILL NEVER KNOW THEIR UNCLE
00:51:04.561 --> 00:51:06.329
DAVID. AND ONE DAY I WILL HAVE
00:51:06.396 --> 00:51:08.231
TO TELL THEM ABOUT THE MEN WHO
00:51:08.298 --> 00:51:10.834
KILLED HIM. I HOPE MORE THAN
00:51:10.901 --> 00:51:11.902
ANYTHING THAT WHEN THAT DAY
00:51:11.968 --> 00:51:13.170
COMES, I CAN STILL SAY TO THEM.
00:51:13.236 --> 00:51:15.272
YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY. THEY
00:51:15.338 --> 00:51:16.139
WILL NEVER AGAIN WALK OUR
00:51:16.206 --> 00:51:19.009
STREETS. SP HUNT 300 IS A SLAP
00:51:19.075 --> 00:51:21.011
IN THE FACE TO VICTIMS AND THEIR
00:51:21.077 --> 00:51:22.212
FAMILIES. I SPEAK ON BEHALF OF
00:51:22.279 --> 00:51:23.346
ALL FAMILIES IMPACTED BY THIS
00:51:23.413 --> 00:51:26.016
BILL. THIS INCLUDES THE FAMILY
00:51:26.082 --> 00:51:27.751
OF 22 YEAR OLD BRITTANY KILGORE,
00:51:27.818 --> 00:51:29.386
WHO WAS KIDNAPPED, RAPED,
00:51:29.453 --> 00:51:30.454
TORTURED AND THEN KILLED BY
00:51:30.520 --> 00:51:32.622
THREE PEOPLE IN SAN DIEGO. MY
00:51:32.689 --> 00:51:35.392
FAMILY, LIKE MANY OTHERS SAT
00:51:35.459 --> 00:51:37.160
THROUGH AGONIZING TRIALS, BUT WE
00:51:37.227 --> 00:51:39.296
ULTIMATELY WERE GIVEN JUSTICE.
00:51:39.362 --> 00:51:41.565
PLEASE DO NOT TAKE THAT JUSTICE
00:51:41.631 --> 00:51:42.966
AWAY. PLEASE VOTE NO ON SB 300.
00:51:43.033 --> 00:51:48.171
THANK YOU. DINING CHAIR AND
00:51:48.238 --> 00:51:50.140
MEMBERS KIM STONE OF STONE
00:51:50.207 --> 00:51:51.241
ADVOCACY ON BEHALF OF THE
00:51:51.308 --> 00:51:52.709
CALIFORNIA DISTRICT OF CHINESE
00:51:52.776 --> 00:51:54.144
OFFICE, AND VERY RESPECTFUL, BUT
00:51:54.211 --> 00:51:57.380
I'M STRONG OPPOSITION TO SB 300.
00:51:57.447 --> 00:51:59.549
THIS BILL WOULD CONTRAVENE THE
00:51:59.616 --> 00:52:01.184
VOTERS MANDATE THE JUDGES NOT
00:52:01.251 --> 00:52:03.053
DISMISS SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES.
00:52:03.119 --> 00:52:04.888
FINDINGS UM AND WOULD ELIMINATE
00:52:04.955 --> 00:52:06.423
SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES FOR FELONY
00:52:06.490 --> 00:52:07.891
MURDERS WHERE THE DEFENDANT WAS
00:52:07.958 --> 00:52:09.125
A MAJOR PARTICIPANT ACTING WITH
00:52:09.192 --> 00:52:10.093
RECKLESS INDIFFERENCE TO HUMAN
00:52:10.160 --> 00:52:13.563
LIFE. BY REPEALING PENAL CODE
00:52:13.630 --> 00:52:16.500
SECTION 13 85.1, WHICH PROHIBITS
00:52:16.566 --> 00:52:18.368
JUDGES FROM DISMISSING SPECIAL
00:52:18.435 --> 00:52:19.369
CIRCUMSTANCES FOUND TRUE AT
00:52:19.436 --> 00:52:20.437
TRIAL OR ADMITTED BY THE
00:52:20.504 --> 00:52:23.440
DEFENDANT. UM THIS SECTION WAS
00:52:23.507 --> 00:52:25.809
ENACTED BY THE VOTERS IN 1990
00:52:25.876 --> 00:52:28.044
THROUGH PROPOSITION 1 15 AS A
00:52:28.111 --> 00:52:29.613
DIRECT RESPONSE TO A CALIFORNIA
00:52:29.679 --> 00:52:31.214
SUPREME COURT. UH WHICH GAVE
00:52:31.281 --> 00:52:35.252
JUDGES THAT DISCRETION. IN
00:52:35.318 --> 00:52:37.387
PASSING PROPOSITION 1 15. THE
00:52:37.454 --> 00:52:38.388
VOTERS ISSUED A MANDATE THAT
00:52:38.455 --> 00:52:39.589
VERDICTS FINDING INDEPENDENT
00:52:39.656 --> 00:52:41.291
GUILTY OF FIRST DEGREE MURDER
00:52:41.358 --> 00:52:43.393
WITH ONE OR MORE SPECIAL
00:52:43.460 --> 00:52:44.895
CIRCUMSTANCE SHOULD BE RESPECTED
00:52:44.961 --> 00:52:46.129
AND FORCED AND NOT DISTURBED AS
00:52:46.196 --> 00:52:47.898
LONG AS THERE WERE NO LEGAL
00:52:47.964 --> 00:52:49.633
DEFICIENCIES IN THE VERDICT. THE
00:52:49.699 --> 00:52:51.134
BILL ALSO REPEALS PENAL CODE
00:52:51.201 --> 00:52:53.737
SECTION 1 92 D, WHICH WAS ALSO
00:52:53.803 --> 00:52:54.905
ENACTED BY THE VOTERS IN THAT
00:52:54.971 --> 00:52:56.406
PROPOSITION. THE VOTERS
00:52:56.473 --> 00:52:57.107
DETERMINED THAT NON KILLERS
00:52:57.173 --> 00:52:58.775
COULD BE CONVICTED OF SPECIAL
00:52:58.842 --> 00:53:00.176
CIRCUMSTANCES FOR FELONY MURDER
00:53:00.243 --> 00:53:02.512
IF THEY WERE MAJOR PARTICIPANTS
00:53:02.579 --> 00:53:02.979
, ACTING WITH RECKLESS
00:53:03.046 --> 00:53:04.180
INDIFFERENCE TO HUMAN LIFE, EVEN
00:53:04.247 --> 00:53:06.550
WITHOUT INTENT TO KILL. THE
00:53:06.616 --> 00:53:07.984
VOTERS DETERMINED THAT PEOPLE
00:53:08.051 --> 00:53:09.219
WHO ARE MAJOR PARTICIPANTS IN
00:53:09.286 --> 00:53:11.021
PARTICULARLY VIOLENT FELONIES
00:53:11.087 --> 00:53:12.489
LIKE ROBBERY, RAPE, CHILD
00:53:12.556 --> 00:53:14.057
MOLESTATION SHOULD RECEIVE A
00:53:14.124 --> 00:53:15.559
GREATER PUNISHMENT IF A PERSON
00:53:15.625 --> 00:53:17.060
I KILLED DURING THE OFFENSE AND
00:53:17.127 --> 00:53:18.895
THAT THE AND THAT THE PERSON
00:53:18.962 --> 00:53:20.063
ACTED WITH RECKLESS INDIFFERENCE
00:53:20.130 --> 00:53:23.466
TO HUMAN LIFE. THIS BILL ALSO
00:53:23.533 --> 00:53:24.868
REQUIRES DISMISSAL SPECIAL
00:53:24.935 --> 00:53:25.802
CIRCUMSTANCES UNLESS THE
00:53:25.869 --> 00:53:27.304
PROSECUTION CAN PROVE BEYOND A
00:53:27.370 --> 00:53:28.405
REASONABLE DOUBT THAT THE
00:53:28.471 --> 00:53:29.973
DEFENDANT IS AN L. OH, NO,
00:53:30.040 --> 00:53:31.241
THAT'S THE RE SENTENCING PART.
00:53:31.308 --> 00:53:34.511
SO THE THESE KIND OF CASES
00:53:34.578 --> 00:53:36.012
SOMETIMES ARISE WHERE VICTIMS
00:53:36.079 --> 00:53:36.947
ARE SEXUALLY ASSAULTED BY
00:53:37.013 --> 00:53:39.149
MULTIPLE PERPETRATORS. IF YOU
00:53:39.215 --> 00:53:40.150
CONSIDER A CASE WHERE TWO
00:53:40.216 --> 00:53:41.384
DEFENDANTS KIDNAPPED AND
00:53:41.451 --> 00:53:42.686
SEXUALLY ASSAULT THE VICTIM, ONE
00:53:42.752 --> 00:53:44.988
PERPETRATOR KILLS THE VICTIM.
00:53:45.055 --> 00:53:46.323
PERHAPS BY SLITTING HER THROAT
00:53:46.389 --> 00:53:47.757
OR SUFFOCATING HER WITH DUCT
00:53:47.824 --> 00:53:49.225
TAPE. THE PROSECUTION MAY BE IN
00:53:49.292 --> 00:53:51.027
THE POSITION OF BEING UNABLE TO
00:53:51.094 --> 00:53:52.228
PROVE WHICH DEFENDANT WAS THE
00:53:52.295 --> 00:53:53.964
ACTUAL KILLER, OR THAT THE NON
00:53:54.030 --> 00:53:55.799
KILLER HAD AN EXPRESS INTENT TO
00:53:55.865 --> 00:53:57.300
KILL. THAT IS ONE REASON WHY THE
00:53:57.367 --> 00:53:59.703
VOTERS ENACTED PROPOSITION 15 TO
00:53:59.769 --> 00:54:01.137
ENSURE THAT MAJOR PARTICIPANTS
00:54:01.204 --> 00:54:03.139
IN DANGEROUS FELONIES ACTING
00:54:03.206 --> 00:54:04.541
WITH RECKLESS INDIFFERENCE COULD
00:54:04.608 --> 00:54:05.542
BE APPROPRIATELY PUNISHED FOR
00:54:05.609 --> 00:54:07.544
SUCH VIOLENT CRIMES. THAT'S WHY
00:54:07.611 --> 00:54:08.411
THE CALIFORNIA DISTRICT
00:54:08.478 --> 00:54:09.279
ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION MUST
00:54:09.346 --> 00:54:10.747
RESPECTFULLY OPPOSED THIS BILL.
00:54:10.814 --> 00:54:15.118
THANK YOU. WILL NOW GO TO THE
00:54:15.185 --> 00:54:16.987
HEARING ROOM. ARE THEY ANY OTHER
00:54:17.053 --> 00:54:18.021
WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION NAME
00:54:18.088 --> 00:54:29.699
AND ORGANIZATION? HELLO MY NAME
00:54:29.766 --> 00:54:32.002
IS SHARON PETTIGREW, A MOTHER OF
00:54:32.068 --> 00:54:33.970
DAVID PETTIGREW FROM LONG BEACH,
00:54:34.037 --> 00:54:35.105
CALIFORNIA AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE
00:54:35.171 --> 00:54:39.175
THIS BILL. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS
00:54:39.242 --> 00:54:40.710
CRAIG PETTIGREW, THE FATHER OF
00:54:40.777 --> 00:54:42.979
DAVID PETTIGREW. I'M FROM LONG
00:54:43.046 --> 00:54:44.080
BEACH, CALIFORNIA ALSO, AND I
00:54:44.147 --> 00:54:45.582
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL. THANK
00:54:45.649 --> 00:54:50.520
YOU. I AM NANCY MUNSER, SISTER
00:54:50.587 --> 00:54:52.689
IN LAW TO DAVID MURDER VICTIM,
00:54:52.756 --> 00:54:53.423
DAVID PETTIGREW FROM SAN
00:54:53.490 --> 00:54:54.524
FRANCISCO. I STRONGLY OPPOSE
00:54:54.591 --> 00:55:00.063
THIS BILL. DAN MONZER FROM SAN
00:55:00.130 --> 00:55:02.032
FRANCISCO BROTHER IN LAW TO
00:55:02.098 --> 00:55:03.199
MURDER VICTIM I OPPOSE THIS
00:55:03.266 --> 00:55:10.006
BILL. THANK YOU. TOPO PADILLA ON
00:55:10.073 --> 00:55:11.041
BEHALF OF CRIME VICTIMS UNITED
00:55:11.107 --> 00:55:12.876
IN OPPOSITION OF SB 300. THE
00:55:12.942 --> 00:55:13.977
VOTERS SPOKE AND THAT
00:55:14.044 --> 00:55:15.011
PROPOSITION OF THE REFERENCED
00:55:15.078 --> 00:55:18.281
THANK YOU. NOW WE'LL GO TO THE
00:55:18.348 --> 00:55:19.716
PHONE LINES, WITNESSES AND
00:55:19.783 --> 00:55:25.588
OPPOSITION TO SB 300 COURTESY.
00:55:25.655 --> 00:55:26.956
THANK MISS CHAIR AND FOR THOSE
00:55:27.023 --> 00:55:28.758
ON THE PHONE IF YOU'D LIKE TO
00:55:28.825 --> 00:55:30.660
SPEAK IN OUR POSITION OF SP 300,
00:55:30.727 --> 00:55:32.328
PLEASE PRESS 10. FIRST WOULD
00:55:32.395 --> 00:55:33.396
ALIGN NUMBER 28, PLEASE GO
00:55:33.463 --> 00:55:37.901
AHEAD. MITCH CHAIR MEMBERS,
00:55:37.967 --> 00:55:39.035
RANDY PERRY ON BEHALF OF BORIC
00:55:39.102 --> 00:55:44.274
AND OPPOSITION. NEXT LITTLE LINE
00:55:44.340 --> 00:55:46.943
33, PLEASE GO AHEAD. MARK
00:55:47.010 --> 00:55:51.147
AMADOR. IN OPPOSITION TO SB 300
00:55:51.214 --> 00:55:58.488
ON BEHALF OF CBA. NEXT WE GO TO
00:55:58.555 --> 00:56:04.494
LINUS 64. PLEASE GO AHEAD. LINE
00:56:04.561 --> 00:56:09.399
64. YOUR LINE IS OPEN. HI I
00:56:09.466 --> 00:56:10.567
ACTUALLY CALL IN TO SUPPORT A
00:56:10.633 --> 00:56:15.472
BEAT 300. SO CAN I SPEAK? YOUR
00:56:15.538 --> 00:56:17.841
NAME AND ORGANIZATION. AND
00:56:17.907 --> 00:56:23.079
SUPPORT THE OPPOSITION. BY MY
00:56:23.146 --> 00:56:26.082
NAME IS JOHN. WE UM AND I'M
00:56:26.149 --> 00:56:28.017
CALLING ON THE BEHALF OF WHEEL
00:56:28.084 --> 00:56:28.485
PEOPLE AND THINK THAT
00:56:28.551 --> 00:56:30.520
UNDERSTANDING HAGO POLITICIANS
00:56:30.587 --> 00:56:32.155
SUPPORT THAT BILL AND THIS BILL
00:56:32.222 --> 00:56:33.623
ALSO, UM, AFFECTED ME AND MY
00:56:33.690 --> 00:56:38.995
FAMILY. THANK YOU. NEXT THE LINE
00:56:39.062 --> 00:56:45.468
AT 22. PLEASE GO AHEAD. TIME IS
00:56:45.535 --> 00:56:47.036
LAUREN POWERS, FRIEND OF DAVID
00:56:47.103 --> 00:56:48.905
PETTIGREW, WHO WAS MURDERED IN
00:56:48.972 --> 00:56:51.174
LONG BEACH IN 2000 AND SEVEN I
00:56:51.241 --> 00:56:52.342
STRONGLY OPPOSE SB 300. THANK
00:56:52.408 --> 00:56:57.981
YOU. NEXT TO GO TO LYON. 65.
00:56:58.047 --> 00:57:03.386
PLEASE GO AHEAD. ALEXANDRA CAM
00:57:03.453 --> 00:57:05.288
FROM HAVE MURDERED VICTIM DAVID
00:57:05.355 --> 00:57:06.756
PETTIGREW ALONG THE TONIGHT
00:57:06.823 --> 00:57:08.625
STRONGLY OPPOSED THE 300. THANK
00:57:08.691 --> 00:57:13.696
YOU. NEXT WE GO TO LINE 50,
00:57:13.763 --> 00:57:18.067
PLEASE GO AHEAD. CHAIR AND
00:57:18.134 --> 00:57:19.536
MEMBERS, JONATHAN FELDMAN ON
00:57:19.602 --> 00:57:20.970
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA POLICE
00:57:21.037 --> 00:57:22.005
CHIEFS ASSOCIATION, OPPOSING THE
00:57:22.071 --> 00:57:27.577
BILL. NEXT WE GO TO LINE 35,
00:57:27.644 --> 00:57:32.148
PLEASE GO AHEAD. TIFFANY
00:57:32.215 --> 00:57:33.383
MATTHEWS ON BEHALF OF THE ORANGE
00:57:33.449 --> 00:57:34.217
COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S
00:57:34.284 --> 00:57:39.255
OFFICE AND OFFICE. THANK YOU.
00:57:39.322 --> 00:57:40.490
NEXT WORD ALIGNED. 56. PLEASE GO
00:57:40.557 --> 00:57:46.896
AHEAD. JILL SCHAFFER FEEL BEACH
00:57:46.963 --> 00:57:48.598
, CALIFORNIA FRIEND OF MURDERED
00:57:48.665 --> 00:57:50.533
VICTIMS DAVID CATEGORY AND I
00:57:50.600 --> 00:57:51.134
STRONGLY OPPOSED SB 300. THANK
00:57:51.201 --> 00:57:59.542
YOU. LINE. 14, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
00:57:59.609 --> 00:58:01.778
KELLY READ ON BEHALF OF KEEP
00:58:01.845 --> 00:58:02.545
CALIFORNIA SAFE AND CRIME
00:58:02.612 --> 00:58:04.080
SURVIVORS PACK IN STRONG
00:58:04.147 --> 00:58:08.918
OPPOSITION TO SB 300. THANK YOU.
00:58:08.985 --> 00:58:15.158
LINE. 20, PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI
00:58:15.225 --> 00:58:16.659
THIS IS NIKKI MONZER, FAMILY
00:58:16.726 --> 00:58:18.261
MEMBER OF DAVID PETTIGREW AND I
00:58:18.328 --> 00:58:23.466
STRONGLY OPPOSED SB 300. LINE.
00:58:23.533 --> 00:58:28.371
41, PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI MY NAME
00:58:28.438 --> 00:58:29.539
IS MARISSA. ARCHIE KOVIC. I'M IN
00:58:29.606 --> 00:58:33.109
STRONG OPPOSITION OF SP 300 AS A
00:58:33.176 --> 00:58:34.310
CONCERNED MOTHER OF THREE. THANK
00:58:34.377 --> 00:58:45.154
YOU. LINE. 36, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
00:58:45.221 --> 00:58:49.058
BUYING 36. YOUR LINE IS OPEN.
00:58:49.125 --> 00:58:51.261
HI. MY NAME IS TINA MONGO. AND I
00:58:51.327 --> 00:58:58.134
OPPOSED AS THE 300. QUÊ. NEXT
00:58:58.201 --> 00:59:00.036
WE'LL GO TO LINE 17, PLEASE GO
00:59:00.103 --> 00:59:04.807
AHEAD. BRIAN SWANSON. I'M FAMILY
00:59:04.874 --> 00:59:05.909
AND MURDERED VICTIM DAVID
00:59:05.975 --> 00:59:07.844
PETTIGREW FROM LONG BEACH AND I
00:59:07.911 --> 00:59:12.615
STRONGLY OPPOSED SB 300. NEXT
00:59:12.682 --> 00:59:13.750
WORLD TO LINE 31, PLEASE GO
00:59:13.816 --> 00:59:18.454
AHEAD. HI I'M SCOTT SWANSON.
00:59:18.521 --> 00:59:20.523
LONG BEACH, CALIFORNIA FRIEND OF
00:59:20.590 --> 00:59:22.058
MURDERED VICTIM DAVID PETTIGREW
00:59:22.125 --> 00:59:26.763
AND I STRONGLY OPPOSED SP 300.
00:59:26.829 --> 00:59:31.434
BLIND 12, PLEASE GO AHEAD. YES
00:59:31.501 --> 00:59:33.436
MY NAME IS MICHELLE REST. W R E
00:59:33.503 --> 00:59:35.972
S T. I'M CALLING ON BEHALF OF MY
00:59:36.039 --> 00:59:37.173
DAUGHTER, BRITTANY KILGORE, WHO
00:59:37.240 --> 00:59:39.008
WAS MURDERED IN CALIFORNIA IN
00:59:39.075 --> 00:59:41.077
2000 AND 12 AND OUR FAMILY
00:59:41.144 --> 00:59:42.211
STRONGLY OPPOSES SP 300. THANK
00:59:42.278 --> 00:59:47.550
YOU. THAT'S WHAT ALIGNED 58,
00:59:47.617 --> 00:59:51.220
PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD MORNING.
00:59:51.287 --> 00:59:54.157
JENNIFER LEVIN RADIATE ATTORNEY
00:59:54.223 --> 00:59:55.792
LIVING IN LONG BEACH, CALIFORNIA
00:59:55.858 --> 00:59:57.093
AND FRIEND OF MURDER VICTIM
00:59:57.160 --> 00:59:58.127
DAVID PETTIGREW STRONGLY OPPOSED
00:59:58.194 --> 01:00:03.533
THIS BILL. NEXT WHETHER THE LINE
01:00:03.599 --> 01:00:09.138
66 PLEASE GO AHEAD. LEILA AZIZ
01:00:09.205 --> 01:00:10.673
PILLARS OF THE COMMUNITY, AND I
01:00:10.740 --> 01:00:16.412
STRONGLY SUPPORT AS THE 300.
01:00:16.479 --> 01:00:17.647
NEXT TO THE LINE. 30, PLEASE GO
01:00:17.714 --> 01:00:22.785
AHEAD. MY NAME IS ELIZABETH
01:00:22.852 --> 01:00:25.355
MONZER. I'M A FAMILY MEMBER OF
01:00:25.421 --> 01:00:26.556
MURDER VICTIM DAVID PETTIGREW
01:00:26.622 --> 01:00:31.794
AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL.
01:00:31.861 --> 01:00:36.799
LINE. 34, PLEASE GO AHEAD. MR
01:00:36.866 --> 01:00:37.633
CHAIR MEMBERS. RYAN, CHAIRMAN
01:00:37.700 --> 01:00:38.468
WITH RIVERSIDE
01:00:38.534 --> 01:00:40.436
SHERIFFSASSOCIATION OPPOSITION.
01:00:40.503 --> 01:00:43.306
ALSO IN OPPOSITION, UM FINE
01:00:43.373 --> 01:00:44.540
POLICE OFFICERS ASSOCIATIONS
01:00:44.607 --> 01:00:45.508
FROM CLAREMONT. COMMANDER,
01:00:45.575 --> 01:00:48.911
CALLOUS FORTIES. REPORT BEACH
01:00:48.978 --> 01:00:52.281
UPLAND SANTA ANA BURBANK. SINGLE
01:00:52.348 --> 01:00:53.182
WORD. ARCADIA, RIVERSIDE
01:00:53.249 --> 01:00:56.686
PORTANTINO. AND COVER CITY ALL
01:00:56.753 --> 01:00:58.421
IN OPPOSITION. THANK YOU. THANK
01:00:58.488 --> 01:01:02.658
YOU. NEXT WITH A LINE THAT 21
01:01:02.725 --> 01:01:06.996
YOUR LINE IS OPEN. MY NAME IS
01:01:07.063 --> 01:01:09.265
JEFF MUNSER WEATHER IN LAW TO
01:01:09.332 --> 01:01:10.366
YOU DAVID PETTIGREW, WHO WAS
01:01:10.433 --> 01:01:12.735
MURDERED IN 2000 AND SEVEN I
01:01:12.802 --> 01:01:15.938
STRONGLY OPPOSED SB 300. LINE.
01:01:16.005 --> 01:01:20.576
68, PLEASE GO AHEAD. NAME IS
01:01:20.643 --> 01:01:23.212
VIRGINIA CASADA. I AM AN L WOP
01:01:23.279 --> 01:01:25.214
WIFE AND I AM CALLING ON BEHALF
01:01:25.281 --> 01:01:28.451
OF MY MYSELF AND MY FAMILY TO
01:01:28.518 --> 01:01:29.452
STRONGLY SUPPORT SENATE BILL
01:01:29.519 --> 01:01:33.423
300. THANK YOU. ALTHOUGH THE
01:01:33.489 --> 01:01:38.394
LINE 67 PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI MY
01:01:38.461 --> 01:01:40.963
NAME IS NIKKI CZARSKY. I'M A
01:01:41.030 --> 01:01:42.799
FAMILY FRIEND OF THE
01:01:42.865 --> 01:01:44.133
PETTIGREW'S. I STRONGLY OPPOSED
01:01:44.200 --> 01:01:46.669
SB 300. THANK YOU. AND MR CHAIR.
01:01:46.736 --> 01:01:48.371
NO FURTHER COMMENTS IN QUÊ.
01:01:48.438 --> 01:01:52.041
OKAY? AND WE'LL NOW BRING IT
01:01:52.108 --> 01:01:55.678
BACK TO THE COMMITTEE. MR QUIRK.
01:01:55.745 --> 01:01:59.282
I WAS JUST REREADING. ALL THE
01:01:59.348 --> 01:02:01.484
BILLS THAT WE'VE PASSED. TO
01:02:01.551 --> 01:02:07.523
LIMIT. THE CULPABILITY OF PEOPLE
01:02:07.590 --> 01:02:10.660
WHO HAVE NO MALICE DIDN'T KNOW
01:02:10.726 --> 01:02:12.628
THE CRIME WOULD THAT TO THE
01:02:12.695 --> 01:02:13.162
CRIME OF MURDER WOULD BE
01:02:13.229 --> 01:02:19.402
COMMITTED, PERHAPS AH! AH, THE.
01:02:19.469 --> 01:02:21.838
WOMAN WHO SPOKE HERE EARLIER AND
01:02:21.904 --> 01:02:23.005
SUPPORT OF THE BILL WOULD BE
01:02:23.072 --> 01:02:25.842
COVERED UNDER THAT. UM SO WHAT?
01:02:25.908 --> 01:02:28.010
WHAT EXACTLY WOULD YOUR CHANGE
01:02:28.077 --> 01:02:30.947
DO COULD YOU GIVE US EXAMPLES?
01:02:31.013 --> 01:02:34.183
NOT NECESSARILY OF A REAL CASE,
01:02:34.250 --> 01:02:35.585
BUT OF THE SORTS OF THINGS
01:02:35.651 --> 01:02:38.087
YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT, AND HOW
01:02:38.154 --> 01:02:40.590
YOUR BILL WOULD CHANGE THAT.
01:02:40.656 --> 01:02:44.327
THANK YOU. SO REMEMBER. LET ME
01:02:44.393 --> 01:02:47.396
JUST SAY FIRST AND FOREMOST, UH
01:02:47.463 --> 01:02:48.498
, TO THE PEDIGREE, FAMILY AND
01:02:48.564 --> 01:02:50.800
OTHER FAMILIES WHO HER BEEN
01:02:50.867 --> 01:02:53.870
IMPACTING THE VICTIMIZED BY
01:02:53.936 --> 01:02:55.938
HORRIFIC CRIMES AND TRAGEDIES,
01:02:56.005 --> 01:02:59.976
PARTICULARLY HOMICIDES. UM. MY
01:03:00.042 --> 01:03:02.211
HEART GOES OUT TO YOU. BUT I DO
01:03:02.278 --> 01:03:04.046
WANT TO INDICATE VERY CLEARLY
01:03:04.113 --> 01:03:07.850
THAT ONE THING THIS BILL DOES
01:03:07.917 --> 01:03:09.152
NOT DO IS RE SENTENCE WERE
01:03:09.218 --> 01:03:10.319
ALLOWED TO BE RELEASED. ANYBODY
01:03:10.386 --> 01:03:14.457
WHO'S ALREADY BEEN CONVICTED AS
01:03:14.524 --> 01:03:15.658
SOON THE CASE OF DAVID
01:03:15.725 --> 01:03:20.396
PETTIGREW. THE VICTIM. UM EARLY
01:03:20.463 --> 01:03:21.931
ON, AND I DO WANT TO APOLOGIZE.
01:03:21.998 --> 01:03:23.599
THERE'S ANY CONFUSION ON THE
01:03:23.666 --> 01:03:25.568
LONG HISTORY OF THIS BILL. AS
01:03:25.635 --> 01:03:26.736
ALL OF YOU KNOW, AS AS
01:03:26.802 --> 01:03:29.205
LEGISLATORS WHO WHO WORKED YOUR
01:03:29.272 --> 01:03:33.709
OWN BILLS. THERE WERE CONCERNS
01:03:33.776 --> 01:03:36.546
ABOUT THE POTENTIAL FOR RE
01:03:36.612 --> 01:03:37.880
SENTENCING. THE BILL ORIGINALLY
01:03:37.947 --> 01:03:39.115
HAD LANGUAGE IN IT THAT WOULD
01:03:39.182 --> 01:03:41.450
HAVE ALLOWED THAT HAD IT. HAD IT
01:03:41.517 --> 01:03:43.586
MADE IT THIS FAR MADE IT TO THE
01:03:43.653 --> 01:03:45.755
GOVERNOR'S DESK, BUT THOSE
01:03:45.821 --> 01:03:47.590
PROVISIONS WERE AMENDED OUT AND
01:03:47.657 --> 01:03:49.625
THAT'S WHY I SAID IN THE
01:03:49.692 --> 01:03:50.493
OPENING. THIS BILL IS
01:03:50.560 --> 01:03:54.997
PROSPECTIVE. NOT RETROSPECTIVE.
01:03:55.064 --> 01:03:57.934
AND UM, YOU KNOW, AND OF COURSE,
01:03:58.000 --> 01:03:59.068
REMAIN THAT WAY FROM HERE ON
01:03:59.135 --> 01:04:02.471
OUT. SO WHAT THIS BILL DOES IS
01:04:02.538 --> 01:04:06.609
IN THE APPROXIMATE 15 OR SO
01:04:06.676 --> 01:04:08.878
SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES CASES THAT
01:04:08.945 --> 01:04:09.912
OCCUR AND THAT'S AN
01:04:09.979 --> 01:04:13.382
APPROXIMATION BASED ON UM
01:04:13.449 --> 01:04:16.052
AVERAGES IN THOSE CASES, IT
01:04:16.118 --> 01:04:17.887
WON'T CHANGE CULPABILITY
01:04:17.954 --> 01:04:20.556
ASSEMBLY MEMBER AT ALL THE ROLE
01:04:20.623 --> 01:04:22.391
OF THE JURY DOESN'T CHANGE
01:04:22.458 --> 01:04:24.093
WHATSOEVER HEARD IN PART OF THE
01:04:24.160 --> 01:04:26.963
TESTIMONY FROM A JUROR. THE JURY
01:04:27.029 --> 01:04:28.231
IN THAT CASE WASN'T INFORMED AS
01:04:28.297 --> 01:04:31.968
TO WHAT THE SENTENCING. THE
01:04:32.034 --> 01:04:34.036
MAXIMUMS OR LIMITATIONS WERE AND
01:04:34.103 --> 01:04:35.171
THAT WILL CONTINUE TO BE THE
01:04:35.238 --> 01:04:39.275
CASE. WHAT DOES CHANGE? IS THAT
01:04:39.342 --> 01:04:40.576
IN THOSE 15 OR SO CASES EVERY
01:04:40.643 --> 01:04:46.816
YEAR THE, UH, THE ACCESSORY.
01:04:46.882 --> 01:04:47.984
THOSE CHARGED WITH SPECIAL
01:04:48.050 --> 01:04:49.952
CIRCUMSTANCES IN THOSE CASES. IN
01:04:50.019 --> 01:04:53.623
THE SENTENCING PHASE. AFTER
01:04:53.689 --> 01:04:54.624
CONVICTION WILL HAVE THE
01:04:54.690 --> 01:04:59.028
OPPORTUNITY. T<c.cyan>. UM IN TERMS OF</c>
01:04:59.095 --> 01:05:03.399
THE PROCESS. TO INTRODUCE ANY
01:05:03.466 --> 01:05:04.166
REINTRODUCING THE UNDERLYING
01:05:04.233 --> 01:05:06.602
FACTS IN THE CASE THAT HAVE BEEN
01:05:06.669 --> 01:05:09.272
TRIED AS UM A SENTENCING PLEA TO
01:05:09.338 --> 01:05:13.776
THE JUDGE. FOR A SENTENCE OTHER
01:05:13.843 --> 01:05:14.844
THAN LIFE WITHOUT PAROLE OR
01:05:14.910 --> 01:05:18.681
DEATH. NOW IT MAY BE IN 15 OUT
01:05:18.748 --> 01:05:20.016
OF 15 CASES UNDER THAT JUDICIAL
01:05:20.082 --> 01:05:22.251
DISCRETION. THE JUDGE MAY UPHOLD
01:05:22.318 --> 01:05:26.522
L WOP OR DEATH. MAYBE THERE'S A
01:05:26.589 --> 01:05:28.524
CASE LIKE TAMMY COOPER'S CASE.
01:05:28.591 --> 01:05:30.626
IT MAY BE THAT THE JUDGE SAYS IN
01:05:30.693 --> 01:05:34.530
THIS CASE. 25 TO LIFE IS A MORE
01:05:34.597 --> 01:05:36.732
APPROPRIATE SENTENCE. BECAUSE OF
01:05:36.799 --> 01:05:40.102
THE UNDERLYING FACTS. WHAT WE'RE
01:05:40.169 --> 01:05:41.270
TRYING TO ALLOW IS THAT
01:05:41.337 --> 01:05:46.275
OPPORTUNITY. FOR DUE PROCESS
01:05:46.342 --> 01:05:47.643
DURING ADDITIONAL DUE PROCESS
01:05:47.710 --> 01:05:48.978
DURING THE SENTENCING PHASE OF
01:05:49.045 --> 01:05:52.081
FOR THAT ARGUMENT TO BE MADE. BY
01:05:52.148 --> 01:05:56.252
SOMEBODY CONVICTED. AND RIGHT
01:05:56.319 --> 01:05:58.154
NOW, THAT DOES NOT OCCUR. THAT
01:05:58.220 --> 01:05:59.622
DOES NOT ESSENTIALLY IT'S A IT'S
01:05:59.689 --> 01:06:01.657
MOOT BECAUSE THERE'S NO POINT IN
01:06:01.724 --> 01:06:05.394
HAVING A DISCUSSION THERE, AND
01:06:05.461 --> 01:06:06.562
THERE'S THEREFORE THERE IS NO
01:06:06.629 --> 01:06:09.031
LACK OF DUE PROCESS WHEN THE
01:06:09.098 --> 01:06:10.166
ONLY POSSIBLE SENTENCES L WOP OR
01:06:10.232 --> 01:06:16.105
DEATH. NO JUDGE IS GOING TO. TO
01:06:16.172 --> 01:06:19.041
INVEST TIME IN HEARING WHY L WOP
01:06:19.108 --> 01:06:20.843
OR DEATH IS NOT APPROPRIATE IN A
01:06:20.910 --> 01:06:23.779
PARTICULAR CASE. WE DON'T KNOW.
01:06:23.846 --> 01:06:27.783
HOW MANY CASES PROSPECTIVELY. A
01:06:27.850 --> 01:06:29.919
JUDGE WOULD EXERCISE DISCRETION
01:06:29.985 --> 01:06:31.654
OR WHERE A JUDGE THAT WOULD
01:06:31.721 --> 01:06:33.422
EXERCISE DISCRETION TO ACTUALLY
01:06:33.489 --> 01:06:37.927
AH! SENTENCE OTHER THAN A
01:06:37.993 --> 01:06:40.229
WHOPPER DEATH, BUT WE THINK
01:06:40.296 --> 01:06:42.732
BECAUSE OF THE COMPUTATIONS THAT
01:06:42.798 --> 01:06:43.366
WE'VE SEEN BECAUSE OF THE FACTS
01:06:43.432 --> 01:06:45.634
THA WE'VE SEEN BECAUSE OF THE
01:06:45.701 --> 01:06:47.503
BODY OF EVIDENCE NOW THAT THIS
01:06:47.570 --> 01:06:49.305
LAW HAS BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME
01:06:49.372 --> 01:06:51.307
THAT THERE ARE THERE ARE CASES
01:06:51.374 --> 01:06:52.308
WHERE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR
01:06:52.375 --> 01:06:56.045
JUDICIAL DISCRETION IS KEY. AND
01:06:56.112 --> 01:06:57.179
THAT'S REALLY ALL THE BILL IS
01:06:57.246 --> 01:07:00.516
ABOUT. I THINK WE ALL TEND TO
01:07:00.583 --> 01:07:01.684
COMPLICATE THE BILL A LITTLE
01:07:01.751 --> 01:07:04.553
MUCH. I'LL BE AH! THE FIRST
01:07:04.620 --> 01:07:06.989
PERSON TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I DO
01:07:07.056 --> 01:07:08.858
THAT AT TIMES, BUT THE BILL IS
01:07:08.924 --> 01:07:11.594
BASICALLY A SENTENCING BILL.
01:07:11.660 --> 01:07:12.561
THAT'S LOOKING FOR JUDICIAL
01:07:12.628 --> 01:07:16.232
DISCRETION. IT MEANS FULL
01:07:16.298 --> 01:07:17.233
JUDICIAL DISCRETION WHERE THE
01:07:17.299 --> 01:07:19.835
JUDGE CAN CONTINUE. UM, DOWN THE
01:07:19.902 --> 01:07:20.803
COURSE OF L OPERA DEATH. IF THE
01:07:20.870 --> 01:07:23.506
JUDGE SO CHOOSES. ALL RIGHT, SO
01:07:23.572 --> 01:07:27.510
JUST TO SUMMARIZE THIS WOULD
01:07:27.576 --> 01:07:29.111
ONLY AND MAKE SURE I'M SAYING
01:07:29.178 --> 01:07:30.980
THIS RIGHT? THIS WOULD ONLY GO
01:07:31.046 --> 01:07:34.016
INTO EFFECT. AFTER SOMEONE HAS
01:07:34.083 --> 01:07:35.117
BEEN CONVICTED BY A JURY,
01:07:35.184 --> 01:07:38.854
POSSIBLY OF MURDER. AND THEN,
01:07:38.921 --> 01:07:40.623
WHEN THE SENTENCING COMES FROM
01:07:40.689 --> 01:07:42.591
THE JUDGE, HE IS ALLOWED TO USE
01:07:42.658 --> 01:07:45.361
DISCRETION. IN TERMINATING IN
01:07:45.428 --> 01:07:46.862
DETERMINING THE SENTENCE AS
01:07:46.929 --> 01:07:48.731
OPPOSED TO RIGHT NOW WHERE THE
01:07:48.798 --> 01:07:54.403
JUDGE HAS NO AH! NO ROLE. THAT'S
01:07:54.470 --> 01:07:55.471
CORRECT. OKAY, I'LL MOVE THE
01:07:55.538 --> 01:08:00.409
BILL. THANK YOU. THE ARTO. THANK
01:08:00.476 --> 01:08:08.717
YOU. SO. I'M REALLY CONCERNED
01:08:08.784 --> 01:08:10.419
ABOUT BILLS AND BILLS LIKE THIS.
01:08:10.486 --> 01:08:16.025
UM. ONE OF THE THINGS I'M
01:08:16.091 --> 01:08:17.126
CONCERNED ABOUT IS THE IS THE
01:08:17.193 --> 01:08:19.128
VULGARITY BETWEEN WHO'S WHO'S
01:08:19.195 --> 01:08:20.996
THE PERSON WHO ACTUALLY DID THE
01:08:21.063 --> 01:08:22.298
CRIME AND WHO'S THE ACCESSORY?
01:08:22.364 --> 01:08:24.066
BECAUSE THERE WAS LOTS OF
01:08:24.133 --> 01:08:28.003
HEINOUS CRIMES OUT THERE. THAT
01:08:28.070 --> 01:08:29.338
ARE DONE, AND IT'S ALMOST
01:08:29.405 --> 01:08:32.174
IMPOSSIBLE TO DETERMINE. UH OR
01:08:32.241 --> 01:08:33.375
THERE'S AN ARGUMENT TO BE MADE
01:08:33.442 --> 01:08:35.311
THAT NEITHER ONE OF THEM WAS THE
01:08:35.377 --> 01:08:36.278
ACTUAL MURDERER. UM ONE THAT
01:08:36.345 --> 01:08:38.180
COMES O MIND SPECIFICALLY FOR
01:08:38.247 --> 01:08:41.584
ME. 35 YEARS LATER, GOING
01:08:41.650 --> 01:08:44.787
RESPONDING ON THE TRASH FIRE.
01:08:44.854 --> 01:08:47.823
AND WHAT IT TURNED OUT TO BE WAS
01:08:47.890 --> 01:08:49.959
A YOUNG LADY WHO WAS BOUND AND
01:08:50.025 --> 01:08:52.661
GAGGED AND LIT ON FIRE. LIT ON
01:08:52.728 --> 01:08:54.563
FIRE IN AN ALLEY. WHILE HER
01:08:54.630 --> 01:08:59.502
BOYFRIEND WATCHED. AND THEN THEY
01:08:59.568 --> 01:09:02.271
AT LEAST TOOK HIM AWAY AFTER
01:09:02.338 --> 01:09:03.973
THAT, AND HE DIDN'T HAVE TO
01:09:04.039 --> 01:09:05.140
SUFFER AND MISERY TOO LONG
01:09:05.207 --> 01:09:07.042
BECAUSE THEY PUT A BULLET IN HIS
01:09:07.109 --> 01:09:09.845
HEAD. SO IN THE CASE LIKE THIS,
01:09:09.912 --> 01:09:11.313
YOU KNOW, ONE PERSON DID THE
01:09:11.380 --> 01:09:13.215
GASOLINE AND THE OTHER DID THE
01:09:13.282 --> 01:09:16.685
MATCH. NOW SPRINKLING SOMEBODY
01:09:16.752 --> 01:09:18.020
WITH GASOLINE AND OF ITSELF IS
01:09:18.087 --> 01:09:20.222
NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING TO THEM
01:09:20.289 --> 01:09:22.124
OTHER THAN THEY HAVE TO GO. WASH
01:09:22.191 --> 01:09:24.093
IT OFF AND THROWING A MATCH IS
01:09:24.159 --> 01:09:25.027
SOMEBODY WHO'S NOT GONNA LIGHT
01:09:25.094 --> 01:09:26.262
THEM ON FIRE. THERE'S TWO PEOPLE
01:09:26.328 --> 01:09:29.431
THEY MEANT TO DO IT. AND THESE
01:09:29.498 --> 01:09:31.033
KIND OF THESE KIND OF INCIDENTS
01:09:31.100 --> 01:09:32.601
ARE THE ONES THAT ARE STUCK IN
01:09:32.668 --> 01:09:34.169
MY BRAIN. 35 YEARS LATER, I CAN
01:09:34.236 --> 01:09:35.404
TELL YOU WHAT TENNIS SHOES SHE
01:09:35.471 --> 01:09:37.873
WAS WEARING. BECAUSE YOU KNOW
01:09:37.940 --> 01:09:40.276
HER FAMILY WERE VICTIMS OF THIS
01:09:40.342 --> 01:09:41.677
CRIME, BUT THERE'S ALSO OTHER
01:09:41.744 --> 01:09:42.578
VICTIMS OUT THERE OF THOSE
01:09:42.645 --> 01:09:44.446
CRIMES. AND THOSE ARE THE ONES
01:09:44.513 --> 01:09:45.881
THAT I THINK ABOUT. WHEN WE'RE
01:09:45.948 --> 01:09:47.650
GOING THROUGH THESE BILLS. AND
01:09:47.716 --> 01:09:49.385
THAT'S WHAT I SEE. AND I SEE
01:09:49.451 --> 01:09:53.122
SOMEBODY WALKING. WALKING FREE.
01:09:53.188 --> 01:09:54.390
AND I CAN'T IMAGINE THE RAGE OF
01:09:54.456 --> 01:09:56.325
THEIR FAMILY AND THE VICTIMS.
01:09:56.392 --> 01:09:57.526
BECAUSE IN THIS CASE THE VICTIMS
01:09:57.593 --> 01:10:00.429
ARE DEAD. BUT THEIR FAMILIES ARE
01:10:00.496 --> 01:10:01.397
NOT AND TO KNOW. THAT THAT'S
01:10:01.463 --> 01:10:05.935
WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM. I DON'T
01:10:06.001 --> 01:10:07.937
KNOW WHAT RACES THEY WERE OR
01:10:08.003 --> 01:10:08.904
ANYTHING. SHE WAS BURNED BEYOND
01:10:08.971 --> 01:10:10.806
RECOGNITION, AND ALL I HEARD WAS
01:10:10.873 --> 01:10:12.708
THAT THEY HAD BEEN ARRESTED A
01:10:12.775 --> 01:10:15.644
MONTH LATER OR SOMETHING. AND IN
01:10:15.711 --> 01:10:16.845
THE CIRCUMSTANCES, SO HOW DOES
01:10:16.912 --> 01:10:21.350
HOW DOES THIS BILL STOP. I MEAN,
01:10:21.417 --> 01:10:23.052
HOW DOES IT HOW DOES IT ENSURE
01:10:23.118 --> 01:10:25.087
THAT PEOPLE LIKE THAT. GET
01:10:25.154 --> 01:10:29.158
WHAT'S COMING TO HIM. AND THAT'S
01:10:29.224 --> 01:10:31.060
WHAT I DON'T WANT THEM WANDERING
01:10:31.126 --> 01:10:32.294
AROUND THE STREETS. I DON'T WANT
01:10:32.361 --> 01:10:34.196
MY DAUGHTER TO BE ONE OF THEIR
01:10:34.263 --> 01:10:35.397
VICTIMS. THANK YOU. EXCELLENT
01:10:35.464 --> 01:10:37.199
QUESTION IN THERE. AND AGAIN,
01:10:37.266 --> 01:10:44.173
YOU KNOW? NO I'LL DO COMPASSION
01:10:44.239 --> 01:10:45.407
AND CONCERN TO THOSE
01:10:45.474 --> 01:10:46.041
CIRCUMSTANCES. WHAT'S DIFFERENT
01:10:46.108 --> 01:10:49.778
IN THAT FACT PATTERN? UM. THE
01:10:49.845 --> 01:10:51.647
WAY YOU DESCRIBED. IT IS YOU
01:10:51.714 --> 01:10:55.184
SAID BOTH PERSONS MEANT TO KILL.
01:10:55.250 --> 01:10:57.519
UM THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN SPECIAL
01:10:57.586 --> 01:10:58.454
CIRCUMSTANCES THAT'S INTENSE,
01:10:58.520 --> 01:11:01.590
STRAIGHT UP INTENT TO KILL. THIS
01:11:01.657 --> 01:11:03.025
BILL ALSO DOESN'T CHANGE THE
01:11:03.092 --> 01:11:04.660
FELONY MURDER RULE. THEY
01:11:04.727 --> 01:11:06.895
INTENDED A DIFFERENT CRIME.
01:11:06.962 --> 01:11:08.097
ASSAULT BATTERY, AND IT ENDED UP
01:11:08.163 --> 01:11:10.399
IN A HOMICIDE. THIS BILL WOULD
01:11:10.466 --> 01:11:12.101
CHANGE NOTHING. THIS BILL IS
01:11:12.167 --> 01:11:16.071
SPECIFICALLY. DEALING WITH THE
01:11:16.138 --> 01:11:20.109
OPPORTUNITY FOR A JUDGE. IN THE
01:11:20.175 --> 01:11:22.211
JUDGE'S BEST DISCRETION OR
01:11:22.277 --> 01:11:24.346
CIRCUMSTANCES INDICATE THAT ONE
01:11:24.413 --> 01:11:26.281
OF THOSE PERSONS DID NOT MEAN TO
01:11:26.348 --> 01:11:27.650
KILL. AND PERHAPS WAS NOT EVEN
01:11:27.716 --> 01:11:31.887
ON THE SCENE. AS AN EXAMPLE. FOR
01:11:31.954 --> 01:11:33.188
THE JUDGE, NOT TO FREE THAT
01:11:33.255 --> 01:11:35.858
PERSON OR DISMISS THE CASE. OR
01:11:35.924 --> 01:11:39.528
CHANGE. IN THE NOTION THAT
01:11:39.595 --> 01:11:41.764
SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES EXISTED.
01:11:41.830 --> 01:11:43.065
BECAUSE THEY EXIST OR THEY DON'T
01:11:43.132 --> 01:11:45.567
BASED ON THE FACTS. BASED ON THE
01:11:45.634 --> 01:11:46.502
UNDERLYING CRIME, THE UNDERLYING
01:11:46.568 --> 01:11:52.274
FACTS. BUT TO HEAR. IN THE
01:11:52.341 --> 01:11:55.411
SENTENCING PHASE ARGUMENTS THAT
01:11:55.477 --> 01:11:56.578
INDEPENDENT MIGHT WANT TO BRING
01:11:56.645 --> 01:12:01.050
TO INDICATE THAT HE OR SHE DID
01:12:01.116 --> 01:12:02.284
NOT MEAN TO KILL THERE WAS NOT
01:12:02.351 --> 01:12:08.524
INTENT. UM AND THEY WERE NOT. IN
01:12:08.590 --> 01:12:09.958
CASES OF DIFFERENT PATTERNS.
01:12:10.025 --> 01:12:13.295
ACTUALLY, THE PERSON WHO KILLED
01:12:13.362 --> 01:12:14.530
SO IT DOESN'T. IT DOESN'T CHANGE
01:12:14.596 --> 01:12:16.231
THOSE FACTS AT ALL. IT WOULDN'T
01:12:16.298 --> 01:12:19.501
APPLY TO THOSE FACTS. TYPICALLY
01:12:19.568 --> 01:12:20.703
AND IT WOULDN'T APPLY THE FACTS
01:12:20.769 --> 01:12:25.908
AS WE KNOW. WE HAVE WAS ON THE
01:12:25.974 --> 01:12:28.410
BOOKS, BOTH COMMON LAW AND PENAL
01:12:28.477 --> 01:12:29.778
CODE THAT DEFINED CONSPIRACY.
01:12:29.845 --> 01:12:34.283
THE DEFINED. FACT PATTERNS WHERE
01:12:34.349 --> 01:12:38.287
THERE ARE TWO ACTORS OR MORE. OF
01:12:38.353 --> 01:12:39.455
LIKE MIND, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER
01:12:39.521 --> 01:12:41.423
OR NOT THEY'RE BOTH PRESENT ON
01:12:41.490 --> 01:12:43.325
THE SCENE. THOSE WOULD STILL
01:12:43.392 --> 01:12:48.097
RESULT. IN. CONVICTIONS UM, THAT
01:12:48.163 --> 01:12:51.900
ARE BASED ON INTENT TO KILL.
01:12:51.967 --> 01:12:53.869
THERE ARE LOTS OF CASES WERE
01:12:53.936 --> 01:12:55.904
INTENT TO KILL. IN THE STATE WAS
01:12:55.971 --> 01:12:59.341
PROVEN. AND THE INDIVIDUAL
01:12:59.408 --> 01:13:03.312
SERVING TIME. IS NOT SERVING
01:13:03.378 --> 01:13:05.080
LIFE WITHOUT POSSIBILITY OF PRO
01:13:05.147 --> 01:13:07.082
OR DEATH. UM SERHANE SER HAND
01:13:07.149 --> 01:13:11.954
WOULD BE PROBABLY THE. MANY MANY
01:13:12.020 --> 01:13:13.055
YEARS AGO, THE THOUGHT THAT
01:13:13.122 --> 01:13:15.491
COMES TO MY MIND AS I WAS
01:13:15.557 --> 01:13:16.558
WATCHING THE ELECTION RETURNS AS
01:13:16.625 --> 01:13:18.360
A 12 YEAR OLD THAT NIGHT. IN
01:13:18.427 --> 01:13:19.228
ROBERT F. KENNEDY. WAS
01:13:19.294 --> 01:13:21.263
ASSASSINATED. HER HAND WAS
01:13:21.330 --> 01:13:26.769
CONVICTED. OR HAND, AS YOU KNOW,
01:13:26.835 --> 01:13:28.704
HAD HIS MOST RECENT PAROLE
01:13:28.771 --> 01:13:32.174
HEARING. UM AND ULTIMATELY THE
01:13:32.241 --> 01:13:33.942
GOVERNOR HAD TO MAKE A DECISION
01:13:34.009 --> 01:13:36.512
WHETHER TO RELEASE HIM. SO WE'RE
01:13:36.578 --> 01:13:37.513
TALKING ABOUT CERTAIN JUST
01:13:37.579 --> 01:13:41.416
SENTENCING DISCRETION THAT MAY
01:13:41.483 --> 01:13:43.018
CHANGE THE SENTENCING, NOT
01:13:43.085 --> 01:13:44.620
DISMISSED, NOT RELEASED, BUT MAY
01:13:44.686 --> 01:13:45.687
CHANGE THE LENGTH OF THE
01:13:45.754 --> 01:13:48.423
SENTENCE. IN IN SOME OF THESE
01:13:48.490 --> 01:13:50.526
ROUGHLY 15 CASES THAT THAT COME
01:13:50.592 --> 01:13:52.227
WITH THESE PARTICULAR TYPES OF
01:13:52.294 --> 01:13:53.929
FACTS BEFORE THE JUDGE. THANK
01:13:53.996 --> 01:13:56.932
YOU, SOMEBODY MEMBER. THANK YOU.
01:13:56.999 --> 01:14:02.070
QUESTIONS OR COMMENT. YOU MAKE
01:14:02.137 --> 01:14:09.812
POST, MR COURTESY. THANK YOU.
01:14:09.878 --> 01:14:11.947
AGAIN I JUST I JUST WANT TO
01:14:12.014 --> 01:14:15.250
EMPHASIZE THAT I BELIEVE THE
01:14:15.317 --> 01:14:18.921
BILL AS CURRENTLY IN PRINT. THE
01:14:18.987 --> 01:14:20.489
BILL THAT'S ACTUALLY BEFORE YOU
01:14:20.556 --> 01:14:22.057
TODAY IS A MODEST REFORM NARROW
01:14:22.124 --> 01:14:25.727
IN SCOPE. IN PRACTICE. AS I SAID
01:14:25.794 --> 01:14:27.596
MULTIPLE TIMES AND I'M SORRY TO
01:14:27.663 --> 01:14:30.566
BE REDUNDANT. UM THERE ARE ABOUT
01:14:30.632 --> 01:14:33.836
15 CASES ON AVERAGE A YEAR.
01:14:33.902 --> 01:14:35.170
WHERE THE JUDGE WOULD OPEN UP
01:14:35.237 --> 01:14:38.340
ITS SENTENCING HEARING. UM IT
01:14:38.407 --> 01:14:40.108
AND ASSESS THE FACTS AND MAKE A
01:14:40.175 --> 01:14:41.944
DETERMINATION AS TO THE LENGTH
01:14:42.010 --> 01:14:43.512
OF THE SENTENCE. NEVERTHELESS,
01:14:43.579 --> 01:14:46.248
AND WE DON'T KNOW. WHETHER ONE
01:14:46.315 --> 01:14:51.220
OR FIVE OR ZERO OR PERHAPS, OR
01:14:51.286 --> 01:14:53.555
15 OF THEM WOULD GET A SENTENCE
01:14:53.622 --> 01:14:55.824
OF LIFE WITHOUT PAROLE. THAT
01:14:55.891 --> 01:14:57.092
WOULD DEPEND ON THE SPECIFIC
01:14:57.159 --> 01:14:58.393
FACTS OF THOSE SPECIFIC CASES.
01:14:58.460 --> 01:15:02.197
AND THAT JUDICIAL DISCRETION. UM
01:15:02.264 --> 01:15:06.535
NEVERTHELESS, THE IMPACT OF THIS
01:15:06.602 --> 01:15:09.771
BILL ON THE LIVES OF DEFENDANTS
01:15:09.838 --> 01:15:10.806
THEIR FAMILIES, FAMILIES OF
01:15:10.873 --> 01:15:15.410
VICTIMS WILL BE PROFOUND. WE'VE
01:15:15.477 --> 01:15:17.045
HEARD TESTIMONY TODAY, HEART
01:15:17.112 --> 01:15:18.046
WRENCHING TESTIMONY FROM VICTIMS
01:15:18.113 --> 01:15:22.818
ON THE SUPPORT. VICTIMS FAMILIES
01:15:22.885 --> 01:15:23.952
ON THE SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION
01:15:24.019 --> 01:15:27.589
SIDE. UM BOTH WITH CONCERN. I
01:15:27.656 --> 01:15:30.325
RESPECT THAT VERY MUCH. BUT WE
01:15:30.392 --> 01:15:31.460
THINK THIS IS AN IMPORTANT
01:15:31.526 --> 01:15:33.996
ELEMENT OF DUE PROCESS. THAT
01:15:34.062 --> 01:15:35.230
NEEDS TO BE INSTALLED IN THE
01:15:35.297 --> 01:15:37.666
SENTENCING SCHEME. THANK YOU, MR
01:15:37.733 --> 01:15:39.568
CHAIR AND MEMBERS AND I
01:15:39.635 --> 01:15:41.770
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR VOTE.
01:15:41.837 --> 01:15:42.905
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS.
01:15:42.971 --> 01:15:46.074
THIS IS A TOUGH ONE BY AND NO
01:15:46.141 --> 01:15:48.010
STRETCH OF THE MERIT
01:15:48.076 --> 01:15:49.011
IMAGINATION. THIS IS AN EASY
01:15:49.077 --> 01:15:52.281
DECISION. UM GO AHEAD AND CALL
01:15:52.347 --> 01:15:53.482
THE ROLE. THEY WERE FIRST AND A
01:15:53.548 --> 01:15:55.918
SECOND ON SB 300 BY SENATOR
01:15:55.984 --> 01:15:57.119
COURTESY. THE MOTION IS DUE
01:15:57.185 --> 01:15:58.420
PASSED TO THE APPROPRIATIONS
01:15:58.487 --> 01:16:00.789
COMMITTEE, JOAN SAWYER. JOHN
01:16:00.856 --> 01:16:01.990
SAWYER. I LACKEY LACKEY. NO
01:16:02.057 --> 01:16:07.162
BONTA. PLAN TO I BRIAN, BRIAN, I
01:16:07.229 --> 01:16:10.365
WORK I WORK I SANTIAGO CR TOE CR
01:16:10.432 --> 01:16:13.268
TWO NÓ. MEASURES DON'T CALL
01:16:13.335 --> 01:16:15.837
NEEDS ONE MORE. THANK YOU. THANK
01:16:15.904 --> 01:16:30.018
YOU. WE NEED. SENATOR SKINNER.
01:16:30.085 --> 01:16:36.558
PORTS, SENATOR WIENER. MR WEINER
01:16:36.625 --> 01:16:42.064
IN JUDICIAL. MAYBE FOR A WHILE.
01:16:42.130 --> 01:16:43.632
SO, SENATOR SKINNER IF YOU'RE
01:16:43.699 --> 01:17:02.484
WITHIN EARSHOT.
01:22:28.410 --> 01:22:44.492
LANE.
01:22:44.993 --> 01:22:46.861
A SEMI MEMBER BRIAN ON THE
01:22:46.928 --> 01:23:03.945
CONSENT CALENDAR. I, BRIAN AYE.
01:27:27.008 --> 01:27:34.382
HI. THE SKINNER HOW ARE YOU? SP
01:27:34.449 --> 01:27:37.051
9 60 SKINNER. PUBLIC EMPLOYMENT,
01:27:37.118 --> 01:27:38.987
PEACE OFFICERS CITIZENSHIP. YOU
01:27:39.053 --> 01:27:42.590
BEGIN WHENEVER YOU'RE READY.
01:27:42.657 --> 01:27:43.758
THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. THANK YOU
01:27:43.825 --> 01:27:44.792
MEMBERS. APOLOGIES FOR KEEPING
01:27:44.859 --> 01:27:47.962
YOU WAITING. AH! I JUST HAD A
01:27:48.029 --> 01:27:50.064
LITTLE MISHAP LAST NIGHT WITH MY
01:27:50.131 --> 01:27:51.499
CAR BREAKING DOWN AND THEN
01:27:51.566 --> 01:27:53.468
LEAVING MY CAR. MY PHONE IN THE
01:27:53.534 --> 01:27:55.570
LIFT CAR THAT GAVE ME A RIDE
01:27:55.637 --> 01:27:59.574
FROM MY BROKEN CAR. BUT ENOUGH.
01:27:59.641 --> 01:28:01.909
I'M HERE NOW, AND I WILL PRESENT
01:28:01.976 --> 01:28:05.680
MY BILL. UM SP 9 60. WILL
01:28:05.747 --> 01:28:09.984
CORRECT SOMETHING THAT. IS IN
01:28:10.051 --> 01:28:11.953
STATE LAW, BUT IT'S NOT IN EVERY
01:28:12.020 --> 01:28:14.889
OTHER STATES LAW, AND THAT IS A
01:28:14.956 --> 01:28:18.459
STATEMENT THAT SAYS A PERSON
01:28:18.526 --> 01:28:21.829
MUST BE A US CITIZEN IN ORDER TO
01:28:21.896 --> 01:28:24.065
BE A PEACE OFFICER IN CALIFORNIA
01:28:24.132 --> 01:28:28.469
. NOW, LET ME CLARIFY THE. THERE
01:28:28.536 --> 01:28:31.305
ARE MANY STATES, THE MILITARY SO
01:28:31.372 --> 01:28:32.674
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT MILITARY, YOU
01:28:32.740 --> 01:28:34.275
CAN BE A MILITARY POLICE
01:28:34.342 --> 01:28:37.345
OFFICER. WITHOUT BEING A U. S
01:28:37.412 --> 01:28:39.213
CITIZEN AS LONG AS YOU HAVE
01:28:39.280 --> 01:28:41.816
LEGAL WORK AUTHORIZATION, SO
01:28:41.883 --> 01:28:43.651
LEGAL WORTH AUTHORIZATION,
01:28:43.718 --> 01:28:45.186
OBVIOUSLY, AS THINGS LIKE GREEN
01:28:45.253 --> 01:28:47.055
CARD, THERE'S A VARIETY OF OTHER
01:28:47.121 --> 01:28:49.857
VISAS AND SUCH BUT OUR STATE
01:28:49.924 --> 01:28:52.260
PROHIBITS THAT SO PEOPLE THAT
01:28:52.326 --> 01:28:55.730
ARE PERMANENT RESIDENTS. GREW
01:28:55.797 --> 01:28:56.931
UP. LIFT YOUR OLDER LIFE, UH,
01:28:56.998 --> 01:28:59.367
AND CAN BE MILITARY POLICE
01:28:59.434 --> 01:29:03.671
COMMANDERS. CANNOT BE A PEACE
01:29:03.738 --> 01:29:05.740
OFFICER HERE IN CALIFORNIA. SO
01:29:05.807 --> 01:29:08.843
MY BILL WOULD CORRECT THAT. AND
01:29:08.910 --> 01:29:10.244
IT WOULD STILL REQUIRE EVERY BIT
01:29:10.311 --> 01:29:12.714
OF REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE POLICE
01:29:12.780 --> 01:29:16.451
AGENCIES REQUIRE. IN ORDER FOR
01:29:16.517 --> 01:29:18.352
YOU TO BE HIRED AND TO BE
01:29:18.419 --> 01:29:21.022
QUALIFIED. AND SERVED THE ONLY
01:29:21.089 --> 01:29:23.124
THING IT WOULD LIFT. SO YOU
01:29:23.191 --> 01:29:24.292
MUST. YOU WOULD HAVE TO BE
01:29:24.358 --> 01:29:26.160
LEGALLY WORK AUTHORIZED. IT JUST
01:29:26.227 --> 01:29:30.598
REMOVES THAT ONE STIPULATION. SO
01:29:30.665 --> 01:29:32.366
IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION
01:29:32.433 --> 01:29:33.968
BY THE UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA
01:29:34.035 --> 01:29:38.439
BECAUSE THEY HAD AH! STUDENTS
01:29:38.506 --> 01:29:40.775
WHO THEN WANTED TO GO TO THEIR
01:29:40.842 --> 01:29:43.144
ACADEMY TO BECOME C POLICE
01:29:43.211 --> 01:29:46.280
OFFICERS AND THEN COULD NOT SO,
01:29:46.347 --> 01:29:47.982
UH, LET ME INTRODUCE MY
01:29:48.049 --> 01:29:49.016
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT. AND THEY
01:29:49.083 --> 01:29:54.622
ARE ERNESTO MARONE, WHO IS A U
01:29:54.689 --> 01:29:58.426
C. DAVIS CADET? AND UH, MY
01:29:58.493 --> 01:29:59.861
APOLOGIES, BUT MY SECOND
01:29:59.927 --> 01:30:01.763
WITNESSES NAME IS NOT LISTED, SO
01:30:01.829 --> 01:30:02.864
I WILL LET HIM INTRODUCE
01:30:02.930 --> 01:30:04.732
HIMSELF. GO AHEAD. FIVE MINUTES
01:30:04.799 --> 01:30:05.767
TOTAL ANYWAY. YOU WANT OKAY,
01:30:05.833 --> 01:30:10.671
CORRECT. GOOD MORNING, MR
01:30:10.738 --> 01:30:11.973
CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE
01:30:12.039 --> 01:30:13.775
COMMITTEE. MY NAME IS JOE FARROW
01:30:13.841 --> 01:30:14.575
. I'M CURRENTLY THE CHIEF OF
01:30:14.642 --> 01:30:15.877
POLICE AT THE UNIVERSITY OF
01:30:15.943 --> 01:30:18.146
CALIFORNIA DAVIS. PART OF THAT
01:30:18.212 --> 01:30:20.081
SPENT 37 YEARS WITH THE
01:30:20.148 --> 01:30:21.616
CALIFORNIA HIGHWAY PATROL IN THE
01:30:21.682 --> 01:30:22.850
LAST 10 AS THE COMMISSIONER.
01:30:22.917 --> 01:30:24.585
IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN, SIR,
01:30:24.652 --> 01:30:26.354
REALLY IS I'M HERE FOR REALLY
01:30:26.420 --> 01:30:27.588
THIS WHOLE PURPOSE IS TO BRING
01:30:27.655 --> 01:30:28.623
FORWARD THAT THE MEMBER JUST
01:30:28.689 --> 01:30:30.725
TALKED ABOUT HIS THAT SINCE I'VE
01:30:30.792 --> 01:30:31.959
BEEN AT DAVIS, WE HAD THE
01:30:32.026 --> 01:30:33.127
OPPORTUNITY TO EDUCATE AND TRAIN
01:30:33.194 --> 01:30:40.735
MANY. UH, UNDOCUMENTED. STUDENTS
01:30:40.802 --> 01:30:42.370
WHO CAME THROUGH OUR ACADEMY
01:30:42.436 --> 01:30:44.372
INTO OUR DEPARTMENT WHERE WE
01:30:44.438 --> 01:30:45.540
KNEW, AND WE FELT THAT THEY
01:30:45.606 --> 01:30:46.440
WOULD MAKE GREAT CONTRIBUTIONS
01:30:46.507 --> 01:30:47.341
TO THE LAW ENFORCEMENT
01:30:47.408 --> 01:30:49.977
PROFESSION. THEIR STUDENTS THAT
01:30:50.044 --> 01:30:51.979
HAVE WORKED FOR US FOR THREE OR
01:30:52.046 --> 01:30:53.080
FOUR YEARS. THEY THEN GO THROUGH
01:30:53.147 --> 01:30:54.982
OUR POLICE ACADEMY AND THEY COME
01:30:55.049 --> 01:30:56.083
OUT AND THEY SCORE VERY, VERY
01:30:56.150 --> 01:30:57.685
WELL AND THEY DISTINGUISH
01:30:57.752 --> 01:30:58.886
THEMSELVES ONLY FOR US TO LEARN
01:30:58.953 --> 01:31:00.121
OF A LAW THAT'S BEEN ON THE
01:31:00.188 --> 01:31:02.490
BOOKS FOR A LONG, LONG, LONG
01:31:02.557 --> 01:31:03.591
TIME THAT REQUIRES CITIZENSHIP
01:31:03.658 --> 01:31:04.725
FOR THEM TO BE POLICE OFFICERS.
01:31:04.792 --> 01:31:06.661
WE REALLY BELIEVE IN TODAY'S
01:31:06.727 --> 01:31:07.495
DATE WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW
01:31:07.562 --> 01:31:09.063
WE'RE STRUGGLING TO FILL THE
01:31:09.130 --> 01:31:11.165
RANKS, TRYING TO RECRUIT THE
01:31:11.232 --> 01:31:12.900
BEST TO REFLECT OUR COMMUNITIES
01:31:12.967 --> 01:31:14.602
THAT WE SERVE. THIS IS SOMETHING
01:31:14.669 --> 01:31:16.704
THAT WE FELT THE UNIVERSITY OF
01:31:16.771 --> 01:31:17.972
CALIFORNIA FELT AT THE TIME. WE
01:31:18.039 --> 01:31:19.574
WANTED TO COME TO THE
01:31:19.640 --> 01:31:20.341
LEGISLATURE TO SEE IF WE CAN'T
01:31:20.408 --> 01:31:22.677
CHANGE THAT LONG. THAT'S WHY I'M
01:31:22.743 --> 01:31:25.279
HERE TODAY TO ASK YOU FOR YOUR
01:31:25.346 --> 01:31:26.848
VOTE YOUR SUPPORTIVE VOTE ON
01:31:26.914 --> 01:31:27.648
THIS BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING
01:31:27.715 --> 01:31:29.984
THAT'S NEAR AND DEAR TO US, AND
01:31:30.051 --> 01:31:30.585
WE REALLY BELIEVE IT'S TIME.
01:31:30.651 --> 01:31:34.088
THANK YOU. YES, SIR. GOOD
01:31:34.155 --> 01:31:35.590
MORNING, CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF
01:31:35.656 --> 01:31:38.259
THE COMMITTEE. MY NAME IS EARL
01:31:38.326 --> 01:31:39.527
ESTÁN. BARON AND I GRADUATED UC
01:31:39.594 --> 01:31:42.096
DAVIS IN 2020 OF JUNE. WHILE
01:31:42.163 --> 01:31:43.097
ATTENDING UC DAVIS. I BEGAN
01:31:43.164 --> 01:31:44.465
WORKING FOR THE UNIVERSITY
01:31:44.532 --> 01:31:45.399
POLICE DEPARTMENT AS A WHOLE
01:31:45.466 --> 01:31:49.370
SECURITY. OFFICER AS WELL AS AN
01:31:49.437 --> 01:31:51.639
AGGIE HOST SECURITY SUPERVISOR.
01:31:51.706 --> 01:31:53.241
YOU KNOW, I PROVIDED COUNTLESS
01:31:53.307 --> 01:31:54.442
HOURS OF SAFETY AND SECURITY
01:31:54.508 --> 01:31:56.744
SERVICES WHILE WORKING AH, WHAT
01:31:56.811 --> 01:31:58.646
I ENJOYED THE MOST WAS SERVING
01:31:58.713 --> 01:32:00.548
THAT COMMUNITY. DURING MY SENIOR
01:32:00.615 --> 01:32:02.483
YEAR I ATTENDED THE DAVIS POLICE
01:32:02.550 --> 01:32:03.517
ACADEMY. AND DISTINGUISHED
01:32:03.584 --> 01:32:06.220
MYSELF IN SEVERAL DISCIPLINES.
01:32:06.287 --> 01:32:08.356
AH AND IT'S BEEN MY LAWFUL
01:32:08.422 --> 01:32:09.523
LIFELONG GOAL TO BECOME A POLICE
01:32:09.590 --> 01:32:13.394
OFFICER. TYPICALLY UH TOP
01:32:13.461 --> 01:32:15.129
CANDIDATES FROM THE ACADEMY ARE
01:32:15.196 --> 01:32:16.197
EVALUATED FOR SWORN OFFICER
01:32:16.264 --> 01:32:18.165
POSITIONS. WITHIN THE
01:32:18.232 --> 01:32:21.335
UNIVERSITY'S POLICE DEPARTMENT.
01:32:21.402 --> 01:32:22.937
UH I BELIEVE YESTERDAY WAS HAD
01:32:23.004 --> 01:32:25.640
EVERY INTENTION TO HIRE ME. AS A
01:32:25.706 --> 01:32:26.874
SWORN POLICE OFFICER. THE
01:32:26.941 --> 01:32:31.112
CURRENT LAW PROHIBITS IT. AS A.
01:32:31.178 --> 01:32:32.179
THREE YEAR OLD FOUR YEAR OLD I
01:32:32.246 --> 01:32:34.248
WAS BROUGHT TO THE US BY MY
01:32:34.315 --> 01:32:36.017
MOTHER WHO SAW GREATER
01:32:36.083 --> 01:32:36.684
OPPORTUNITIES FOR MY FAMILY. NOW
01:32:36.751 --> 01:32:39.987
I'M 25 YEARS OLD. UM AND
01:32:40.054 --> 01:32:40.988
REMAINED IN CALIFORNIA THE
01:32:41.055 --> 01:32:44.125
ENTIRE TIME. AND I EVEN HAVE A
01:32:44.191 --> 01:32:45.259
YOUNGER SISTER IS GOING TO
01:32:45.326 --> 01:32:46.961
ATTEND. YOU SAVE US IN THE BAR.
01:32:47.028 --> 01:32:48.930
AH I AM ALSO A DOCTOR RECIPIENT.
01:32:48.996 --> 01:32:51.065
UM, SO I HAD DACA SINCE IT CAME
01:32:51.132 --> 01:32:54.835
OUT BACK IN 2012. UH FROM FROM
01:32:54.902 --> 01:32:59.473
FORMER PRESIDENT OBAMA. UM. SO
01:32:59.540 --> 01:33:01.208
NOT BEING ABLE TO BE HIRED AS A
01:33:01.275 --> 01:33:03.244
SWORN OFFICER. UH YOU KNOW, YOU
01:33:03.311 --> 01:33:05.613
SAID DAVIS HAS HIRED ME AS A
01:33:05.680 --> 01:33:06.981
MANAGER FOR THE A G HOST
01:33:07.048 --> 01:33:08.349
SECURITY PROGRAM BEFORE THE
01:33:08.416 --> 01:33:09.750
UNIVERSITY WHERE I SUPERVISE 75
01:33:09.817 --> 01:33:13.254
STUDENTS. AS WELL AS HAVING
01:33:13.321 --> 01:33:14.355
OPERATING BUDGET OF A HALF
01:33:14.422 --> 01:33:16.590
MILLION DOLLARS. AH I WENT
01:33:16.657 --> 01:33:18.492
THROUGH AND PAST THE SAME POLICE
01:33:18.559 --> 01:33:20.795
BACKGROUND CHECK. THAT'S SWORN
01:33:20.861 --> 01:33:22.463
OFFICERS MUST PASS TO GET THE
01:33:22.530 --> 01:33:25.066
POSITION ENVIRONMENT TODAY. THIS
01:33:25.132 --> 01:33:27.468
BILL WILL ALLOW ME AND COUNTLESS
01:33:27.535 --> 01:33:29.036
OTHERS THE OPPORTUNITY TO
01:33:29.103 --> 01:33:30.304
FULFILL MY DREAM OF SERVING THE
01:33:30.371 --> 01:33:32.073
COMMUNITIES WHERE I WAS RAISED.
01:33:32.139 --> 01:33:33.274
EDUCATED AND LIVE AS A FORMER
01:33:33.341 --> 01:33:36.177
POLICE OFFICER. AND I JUST
01:33:36.243 --> 01:33:37.878
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR
01:33:37.945 --> 01:33:41.015
SUPPORT ON ESPIONAGE. THANK YOU
01:33:41.082 --> 01:33:42.283
. ARE THERE ANY OTHER WHEN IT IS
01:33:42.350 --> 01:33:45.386
IN THE HEARING ROOM AND SUPPORT
01:33:45.453 --> 01:33:53.260
FOR SB 9 60. NICCOLO DELUCA HERE
01:33:53.327 --> 01:33:54.495
ON BEHALF OF THE OAKLAND MAYOR
01:33:54.562 --> 01:33:55.563
AND SUPPORT THANK YOU. THANK
01:33:55.629 --> 01:33:58.632
YOU. CHRIS MEYERS WITH THE
01:33:58.699 --> 01:33:59.667
CALIFORNIA SCHOOL EMPLOYEES
01:33:59.734 --> 01:34:03.738
ASSOCIATION AND SUPPORT WE NOW
01:34:03.804 --> 01:34:04.939
GOT THE PHONE LINES OR THE
01:34:05.006 --> 01:34:06.507
WITNESSES AND SUPPORT FOR SB 9
01:34:06.574 --> 01:34:10.344
60. OPERATED OPEN UP THE LINE.
01:34:10.411 --> 01:34:14.281
THANK YOU FOR SUPPORT OF SB 9 60
01:34:14.348 --> 01:34:27.361
, PLEASE PRESS ONE THAN ZERO. GO. TO CLAIMS 77. PLEASE GO AHEAD.
01:34:27.428 --> 01:34:28.729
TURN MEMBERS JONATHAN FELDMAN
01:34:28.796 --> 01:34:30.097
WITH THE CALIFORNIA POLICE
01:34:30.164 --> 01:34:30.698
CHIEFS ASSOCIATION AND SUPPORT
01:34:30.765 --> 01:34:35.970
YEAH. THANK YOU. LION. 11.
01:34:36.037 --> 01:34:40.875
PLEASE GO AHEAD. MARK OUT GEORGE
01:34:40.941 --> 01:34:42.109
WITH THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC
01:34:42.176 --> 01:34:43.010
DEFENDERS ASSOCIATION AND
01:34:43.077 --> 01:34:48.749
SUPPORT THANK YOU. LINE. 61,
01:34:48.816 --> 01:34:53.554
PLEASE GO AHEAD. MY NAME IS
01:34:53.621 --> 01:34:54.588
MAURICIO RODRIGUEZ AND
01:34:54.655 --> 01:35:00.261
SUPPORTIVE AS BEING 9 60. MR
01:35:00.327 --> 01:35:01.462
CHAIR. THERE'S NO ONE ELSE IN
01:35:01.529 --> 01:35:03.898
THE QUEUE TO ADDRESS THE BOARD.
01:35:03.964 --> 01:35:04.965
YOU ARE NOT LISTENING TO
01:35:05.032 --> 01:35:09.503
WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION. T<c.cyan></c>
01:35:09.570 --> 01:35:13.240
GIVE THEM ROOM SO YOU CAN COME
01:35:13.307 --> 01:35:14.875
COMMITTEE AND SENATOR SKINNER.
01:35:14.942 --> 01:35:16.310
MY NAME IS JULIO DELEON,
01:35:16.377 --> 01:35:17.111
REPRESENTING THE RIVERS HAD KIND
01:35:17.178 --> 01:35:18.179
OF SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND
01:35:18.245 --> 01:35:19.346
SHERIFF CHAD BIANCO IN LIGHT OF
01:35:19.413 --> 01:35:21.148
THE RECENT AMENDMENTS TO THE
01:35:21.215 --> 01:35:22.583
BILL. WE WOULD LIKE TO FORMALLY
01:35:22.650 --> 01:35:24.618
WITHDRAW OUR OPPOSITION SHARE.
01:35:24.685 --> 01:35:26.387
BIANCA WOULD LIKE TO THANK
01:35:26.454 --> 01:35:28.122
SENATOR SKINNER AND HER OFFICE
01:35:28.189 --> 01:35:29.857
FOR CONSIDERING OUR POSITION AND
01:35:29.924 --> 01:35:31.058
FOR MANY OF THE BILL TO
01:35:31.125 --> 01:35:32.159
ACCOMMODATE OUR MOST PERTINENT
01:35:32.226 --> 01:35:34.628
CONCERNS. UM SURE, BIANCA WOULD
01:35:34.695 --> 01:35:35.796
LIKE TO EXPRESS HIS GRATITUDE
01:35:35.863 --> 01:35:38.466
FOR REACHING OUT AND REACHING
01:35:38.532 --> 01:35:40.501
OUT TO OUR OFFICE AND REACHING
01:35:40.568 --> 01:35:42.002
THIS COMPROMISE, AND HE STANDS
01:35:42.069 --> 01:35:43.137
FIRM AND WORKING WITH ANY
01:35:43.204 --> 01:35:44.271
LEGISLATOR FROM ANY FROM EITHER
01:35:44.338 --> 01:35:46.807
PARTY. FOR PUBLIC SAFETY MATTERS
01:35:46.874 --> 01:35:48.109
. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK
01:35:48.175 --> 01:35:49.643
YOU, SHERIFF. WE ALWAYS LIKE FOR
01:35:49.710 --> 01:35:53.114
THINGS TO WORK OUT. ARE THERE
01:35:53.180 --> 01:35:54.815
ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN THE ROOM
01:35:54.882 --> 01:35:56.016
AND OPPOSITION WILL NOW GO TO
01:35:56.083 --> 01:35:57.284
THE PHONE LINES, WITNESSES AND
01:35:57.351 --> 01:36:01.755
OPPOSITION. FOR WITNESSES IN
01:36:01.822 --> 01:36:02.957
OPPOSITION TO SB 9 60, PLEASE
01:36:03.023 --> 01:36:08.596
PRESS 10. AND LINE 28. YOUR LINE
01:36:08.662 --> 01:36:14.301
IS OPEN. MR CHAIR MEMBERS. RANDY
01:36:14.368 --> 01:36:18.105
PERRY WEBSITE BRACKEN CHP, UM
01:36:18.172 --> 01:36:20.374
QUICK QUESTION SINCE I'M HOME
01:36:20.441 --> 01:36:22.143
SICK AND I HAVE A MINUTE TO BE
01:36:22.209 --> 01:36:26.213
THE PRIMARY OPPOSITION. UM, WE
01:36:26.280 --> 01:36:33.287
JUST HAD. WE JUST HAD IT SO YOU
01:36:33.354 --> 01:36:35.089
KNOW WHAT? WE HAVE A LITTLE
01:36:35.156 --> 01:36:36.290
TIME. GO AHEAD. YOU HAVE 2.5
01:36:36.357 --> 01:36:39.493
MINUTES. HOW ABOUT THAT? HERE I
01:36:39.560 --> 01:36:41.362
WON'T NEED THAT MUCH. I WAS
01:36:41.428 --> 01:36:43.664
LITERALLY JUST WHAT TO SAY.
01:36:43.731 --> 01:36:44.331
APPRECIATE THE AMENDMENTS TO THE
01:36:44.398 --> 01:36:47.234
BILL. UM FOREX. ONLY REAL
01:36:47.301 --> 01:36:49.136
CONCERN AT THIS POINT IS JUST
01:36:49.203 --> 01:36:52.740
THE BACKGROUND CHECKS. UM YOU
01:36:52.806 --> 01:36:55.209
KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THE GENTLEMAN
01:36:55.276 --> 01:36:58.979
WHO FROM UC DAVIS, WHO SPOKE IN
01:36:59.046 --> 01:37:00.681
SUPPORT, AND THAT SITUATION IS
01:37:00.748 --> 01:37:03.050
CERTAINLY ONE THAT YOU KNOW WE
01:37:03.117 --> 01:37:05.119
WOULD. WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE
01:37:05.186 --> 01:37:06.053
THAT HAVE HIM THROUGH THE
01:37:06.120 --> 01:37:07.488
ACADEMY AND BECAUSE PEACE
01:37:07.555 --> 01:37:08.789
OFFICER I THINK IT'S THE
01:37:08.856 --> 01:37:11.725
SITUATIONS WHERE SOMEONE COMES
01:37:11.792 --> 01:37:13.594
HERE JUST FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS.
01:37:13.661 --> 01:37:16.397
UM THERE, YOU KNOW, 27 YEARS OLD
01:37:16.463 --> 01:37:18.098
AND THEY WANT TO GO THROUGH THE
01:37:18.165 --> 01:37:19.266
ACADEMY. WE HAVE VERY LITTLE
01:37:19.333 --> 01:37:22.002
BACKGROUND ON THEM. AND OUR
01:37:22.069 --> 01:37:23.837
COMPLETE BACKGROUND IS GOING TO
01:37:23.904 --> 01:37:25.839
BE BASED ON WHAT THE FEDS HAVE
01:37:25.906 --> 01:37:28.642
DONE. AND TO THIS DAY, I STILL
01:37:28.709 --> 01:37:30.744
HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO FIND WHAT
01:37:30.811 --> 01:37:33.013
THE FEDS ACTUALLY DO TO GIVE
01:37:33.080 --> 01:37:35.316
SOMEBODY A VISA OR WORK EITHER
01:37:35.382 --> 01:37:36.784
WORKING OR PERMANENT STATUS AS A
01:37:36.850 --> 01:37:40.487
CITIZEN, SO UM, THAT THAT IS
01:37:40.554 --> 01:37:41.989
JUST OUR CONCERN. WE'VE WE'VE
01:37:42.056 --> 01:37:43.757
SPOKEN WITH THE CHIEFS WERE
01:37:43.824 --> 01:37:45.559
WORKING WITH THEM THAT THE
01:37:45.626 --> 01:37:46.827
SENATOR'S OFFICE HAS BEEN
01:37:46.894 --> 01:37:48.462
WONDERFUL REACHING OUT TO US, UM
01:37:48.529 --> 01:37:51.665
OR ARE CONCERNED WHEN WE ARE
01:37:51.732 --> 01:37:53.100
TRYING TO MAKE THE LAW
01:37:53.167 --> 01:37:55.102
ENFORCEMENT PROFESSION AS ALL OF
01:37:55.169 --> 01:37:57.137
YOU ON THIS COMMITTEE, NO AS AS
01:37:57.204 --> 01:37:58.405
DOES THE AUTHOR OF THE BILL.
01:37:58.472 --> 01:37:59.974
WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THAT, YOU
01:38:00.040 --> 01:38:01.508
KNOW, INCREASE THE STANDARDS OF
01:38:01.575 --> 01:38:03.010
THE OFFICERS CONSTANTLY
01:38:03.077 --> 01:38:04.411
INCREASING THEIR EDUCATION
01:38:04.478 --> 01:38:06.013
ELECTION. WE JUST WANT TO BE
01:38:06.080 --> 01:38:07.915
EXTREMELY CAREFUL, ESPECIALLY
01:38:07.982 --> 01:38:09.149
WHEN WE HAVE LICENSING PROGRAMS
01:38:09.216 --> 01:38:11.252
NOW FOR LONG FOR THAT. PEOPLE
01:38:11.318 --> 01:38:12.620
WHO ARE BECOMING PEACE OFFICERS
01:38:12.686 --> 01:38:14.822
IN THE FUTURE. WE KNOW WHAT
01:38:14.888 --> 01:38:17.791
THEIR BACKGROUND IS. WE KNOW, UM
01:38:17.858 --> 01:38:19.360
THAT THAT THEY DON'T CARRY THE
01:38:19.426 --> 01:38:21.629
BIASES THAT WE HAVE TO FIGHT TO
01:38:21.695 --> 01:38:24.365
GO AFTER THE LAST FEW YEARS. UM
01:38:24.431 --> 01:38:25.933
SO THAT'S ALL. I MEAN, OUR
01:38:26.000 --> 01:38:28.269
CONCERNS IS WE WANT TO MAKE SURE
01:38:28.335 --> 01:38:29.003
THAT THE BACKGROUND CHECKS OF
01:38:29.069 --> 01:38:31.872
THESE OF THESE OFFERS, SIRS, UM
01:38:31.939 --> 01:38:33.607
, ARE FULLY VETTED CURRENT
01:38:33.674 --> 01:38:34.708
OFFICERS, THEY GO ALL THE WAY
01:38:34.775 --> 01:38:36.977
BACK TO 18 YEARS OLD. AND IF
01:38:37.044 --> 01:38:38.012
THERE'S SOMETHING IN HER
01:38:38.078 --> 01:38:39.280
BACKGROUND EVEN EARLIER THAN
01:38:39.346 --> 01:38:41.482
THAT, EVEN IF THEY'VE BEEN
01:38:41.548 --> 01:38:44.685
SEALED OR SOME, YOU CAN TRY TO
01:38:44.752 --> 01:38:45.819
GET THAT INFORMATION JUST TO
01:38:45.886 --> 01:38:49.490
MAKE SURE THAT OFFICERS UM, ARE
01:38:49.556 --> 01:38:51.058
FULLY VETTED. AND SO THAT'S OUR
01:38:51.125 --> 01:38:52.860
THAT'S ALL OUR CONCERN IS STILL
01:38:52.926 --> 01:38:54.061
BASED ON THAT ISSUE. THANK YOU
01:38:54.128 --> 01:38:55.896
VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. OPERATOR
01:38:55.963 --> 01:39:02.603
IN ANY OTHER. AN OPPOSITION.
01:39:02.670 --> 01:39:03.871
THERE IS NO OTHERS IN THE QUEUE
01:39:03.937 --> 01:39:06.674
FOR OPPOSITION. OKAY, WE'LL
01:39:06.740 --> 01:39:08.509
BRING IT BACK TO COMMITTEE. UH,
01:39:08.575 --> 01:39:12.479
MR QUIRK. SENATOR SKINNER. DO
01:39:12.546 --> 01:39:15.015
YOU WANT TO RESPOND ON HOW
01:39:15.082 --> 01:39:16.183
THINGS ARE GOING ON BACKGROUND
01:39:16.250 --> 01:39:17.084
CHECKS AND NEGOTIATIONS? THANK
01:39:17.151 --> 01:39:21.088
YOU. UM WE'RE THROUGH THE CHAIR
01:39:21.155 --> 01:39:24.224
. AND MAY I SURE? THANK YOU, UM
01:39:24.291 --> 01:39:27.461
SO MY OFFICE IS IN CONVERSATIONS
01:39:27.528 --> 01:39:30.364
WITH PORK, AND JUST AS WE HAD
01:39:30.431 --> 01:39:31.465
WERE IN CONVERSATIONS WITH THE
01:39:31.532 --> 01:39:32.333
RIVERSIDE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, UM
01:39:32.399 --> 01:39:37.671
WE. OBVIOUSLY I WANT TO
01:39:37.738 --> 01:39:39.606
ACCOMMODATE ANYTHING REASONABLE
01:39:39.673 --> 01:39:41.241
IN ORDER TO GET OUR LAW
01:39:41.308 --> 01:39:42.643
ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES IN SUPPORT
01:39:42.710 --> 01:39:44.378
, BECAUSE THIS IS CLEARLY A BILL
01:39:44.445 --> 01:39:45.646
THAT WOULD, IN MY OPINION,
01:39:45.713 --> 01:39:47.014
BENEFIT THEM. AND AS THE
01:39:47.081 --> 01:39:49.983
REPRESENTATIVE STATED. THEY FEW
01:39:50.050 --> 01:39:51.518
THIS AS SOMETHING THAT COULD
01:39:51.585 --> 01:39:53.921
BENEFIT ALSO, SO WE JUST NEED TO
01:39:53.987 --> 01:39:55.089
LAND ON WHAT WE THINK IS
01:39:55.155 --> 01:39:58.459
APPROPRIATE NUMBER OF YEARS. UM
01:39:58.525 --> 01:40:01.261
FOR A PERSON TO HAVE HAD LEGAL
01:40:01.328 --> 01:40:03.230
WORK AUTHORIZATION IN THE U. S.
01:40:03.297 --> 01:40:05.132
AND UM THE ONLY THING I WOULD
01:40:05.199 --> 01:40:08.168
NOTE IS THAT BY THE HEAD OF MY
01:40:08.235 --> 01:40:12.239
OWN LARGEST CITIES, UM POLICE
01:40:12.306 --> 01:40:15.876
UNION IN OAKLAND WAS NON CITIZEN
01:40:15.943 --> 01:40:17.478
WHEN HE WENT THROUGH THE ACADEMY
01:40:17.544 --> 01:40:19.246
AND BUT FORTUNATELY DURING THAT
01:40:19.313 --> 01:40:20.647
TIME WHEN HE APPLIED FOR
01:40:20.714 --> 01:40:23.484
CITIZENSHIP, THERE WAS NOT A BIG
01:40:23.550 --> 01:40:24.885
LAG TIME FOR CITIZENSHIP
01:40:24.952 --> 01:40:26.653
APPLICATIONS. SO HE DID NOT HAVE
01:40:26.720 --> 01:40:28.655
TO WAIT AND HE WAS ABLE THEN TO
01:40:28.722 --> 01:40:30.424
GET HIRED. NOW HOWEVER, YOU CAN
01:40:30.491 --> 01:40:33.927
WAIT BETWEEN 6 TO 10 YEARS TO
01:40:33.994 --> 01:40:34.895
HAVE YOUR CITIZENSHIP
01:40:34.962 --> 01:40:36.563
APPLICATION. THAT'S THE BACKLOG
01:40:36.630 --> 01:40:39.733
AT OUR IMMIGRATION SERVICES, SO
01:40:39.800 --> 01:40:44.571
UM, BUT I AM VERY COMMITTED TO
01:40:44.638 --> 01:40:45.973
CONTINUING THE CONVERSATIONS
01:40:46.039 --> 01:40:48.242
WITHPORK, AND I HOPE THAT WE
01:40:48.308 --> 01:40:50.077
WILL LAND SOMEWHERE THAT THEY'RE
01:40:50.144 --> 01:40:51.078
COMFORTABLE. THAT IS WHAT I'M
01:40:51.145 --> 01:40:54.081
COMMITTED TO DOING. UM SO BIG
01:40:54.148 --> 01:40:58.986
MOVE THE BILL. ANY OTHER.
01:40:59.052 --> 01:41:03.490
QUESTIONS ARE COMMON. WITH THAT
01:41:03.557 --> 01:41:05.426
YOU MAKE CLOTHES. THANK YOU. I
01:41:05.492 --> 01:41:07.094
DID WANNA MAKE CLEAR THIS DOES
01:41:07.161 --> 01:41:09.663
NOT ALLOW ANY UNDOCUMENTED
01:41:09.730 --> 01:41:12.266
PERSON TO BUILD DOES NOT OPEN
01:41:12.332 --> 01:41:13.467
THE DOOR FOR ANY UNDOCUMENTED
01:41:13.534 --> 01:41:18.439
PERSON. TO BE ABLE TO BE HIRED
01:41:18.505 --> 01:41:20.674
BY A BECOME A PEACE OFFICER. IT
01:41:20.741 --> 01:41:23.644
IS ONLY THOSE WITH LEGAL WORK,
01:41:23.710 --> 01:41:25.979
AUTHORIZATION AND UNDER OUR
01:41:26.046 --> 01:41:27.247
FEDERAL RULES, DACA RECIPIENT
01:41:27.314 --> 01:41:31.218
HAS LEGAL WORK AUTHORIZATION. SO
01:41:31.285 --> 01:41:32.619
I JUST WANTED TO BE VERY CLEAR
01:41:32.686 --> 01:41:34.621
ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE THAT HAS
01:41:34.688 --> 01:41:38.025
BEEN A CONFUSION. UM AND SO IT
01:41:38.091 --> 01:41:40.394
WOULD MAKE THIS CONSISTENT WITH
01:41:40.461 --> 01:41:41.595
THE SAME LEGAL WORK
01:41:41.662 --> 01:41:43.297
AUTHORIZATION THAT THE MILITARY
01:41:43.363 --> 01:41:46.366
REQUIRES FOR THEIR OFFICERS, AND
01:41:46.433 --> 01:41:47.134
THAT CALIFORNIA REQUIRES FOR
01:41:47.201 --> 01:41:51.572
DOCTORS, LAWYERS. AH WHOLE
01:41:51.638 --> 01:41:53.974
VARIETY OF PROFESSIONAL BUSINESS
01:41:54.041 --> 01:41:56.410
LICENSES AND DEGREES TO PRACTICE
01:41:56.477 --> 01:41:58.745
OR PURSUE THOSE IN THE STATE OF
01:41:58.812 --> 01:42:00.247
CALIFORNIA. AND WITH THAT, I ASK
01:42:00.314 --> 01:42:02.749
FOR YOUR VOTE. THANK YOU AND AH!
01:42:02.816 --> 01:42:03.851
RECOMMEND THAT IVO AND ALSO
01:42:03.917 --> 01:42:07.654
BELIEVE THAT YOU CAN. YOU WILL
01:42:07.721 --> 01:42:09.623
BE ABLE TO WORK THIS OUT WITH
01:42:09.690 --> 01:42:11.058
POOR AC IF YOU CAN WORK THIS
01:42:11.124 --> 01:42:15.529
OUT. GET THE RIVERSIDE SHERIFF'S
01:42:15.596 --> 01:42:20.300
TO AGREE, I THINK YOU'RE WELL ON
01:42:20.367 --> 01:42:21.502
YOUR WAY TO GETTING CHORAK
01:42:21.568 --> 01:42:23.270
ONBOARD. SO CHEERS RECOMMENDING
01:42:23.337 --> 01:42:29.042
I VOTE. ALL THE WORLD. ON SB 9
01:42:29.109 --> 01:42:30.611
60 BY SENATOR SKINNER. THE
01:42:30.677 --> 01:42:31.378
MOTION IS DUE PASTURE
01:42:31.445 --> 01:42:32.980
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE. JOAN
01:42:33.046 --> 01:42:35.682
SAWYER, JOHN SO, YOUR EYE LACKEY
01:42:35.749 --> 01:42:38.452
LACKEY. NO, BONTA. BUNCH OF
01:42:38.519 --> 01:42:40.787
BRIAN. BRIAN I QUIRK EYES
01:42:40.854 --> 01:42:46.159
SANTIAGO. CR TOÀN Ó. MEASURES
01:42:46.226 --> 01:42:52.032
ON COLONIES. ONE MORE. I BELIEVE
01:42:52.099 --> 01:42:53.133
WE'RE STILL WAITING ON MR
01:42:53.200 --> 01:42:56.169
WIENER. SO WE WILL GO INTO
01:42:56.236 --> 01:43:03.810
RECESS. LET'S GO TO 11. AND I
01:43:03.877 --> 01:43:08.115
WAS 45 MINUTES OR LESS. WE'LL
01:43:08.181 --> 01:43:25.198
COME BACK HERE. DO I NEED TO?
02:36:37.221 --> 02:36:39.590
BACK IN SESSION NOW. SP 57
02:36:39.656 --> 02:36:41.358
WIENER IS THAT THE ONE YOU CAN
02:36:41.425 --> 02:36:44.728
START WITH? OKAY? THANK YOU, MR
02:36:44.795 --> 02:36:48.899
CHAIRMAN, COLLEAGUES. SB 57 IS A
02:36:48.966 --> 02:36:50.634
VOLUNTARY PILOT PROGRAM
02:36:50.701 --> 02:36:53.237
AUTHORIZING SAN FRANCISCO, THE
02:36:53.303 --> 02:36:54.938
CITY OF LOS ANGELES, THE COUNTY
02:36:55.005 --> 02:36:56.140
OF LOS ANGELES AND OAKLAND IF
02:36:56.206 --> 02:36:58.776
THEY CHOOSE TO PILOT SAFE
02:36:58.842 --> 02:37:02.746
CONSUMPTION SITES. UM TO BE
02:37:02.813 --> 02:37:04.982
CLEAR. NO CITY OR COUNTY IS
02:37:05.048 --> 02:37:07.417
REQUIRED UNDER THIS BILL TO
02:37:07.484 --> 02:37:10.120
ESTABLISH SAFE CONSUMPTION SITES
02:37:10.187 --> 02:37:11.221
. THEY ARE SIMPLY AUTHORIZED TO
02:37:11.288 --> 02:37:14.358
DO SO. THIS IS A LOCAL CONTROL
02:37:14.424 --> 02:37:18.295
LOCAL DECISION MAKING BILL ALSO
02:37:18.362 --> 02:37:20.664
TO BE CLEAR EACH OF THE FOUR
02:37:20.731 --> 02:37:21.899
JURISDICTIONS INCLUDING AND PUT
02:37:21.965 --> 02:37:23.167
IN THIS BILL HAS OFFICIALLY
02:37:23.233 --> 02:37:26.303
ASKED US TO BE INCLUDED. IN THE
02:37:26.370 --> 02:37:28.639
BILL HAS ASKED US FOR THIS
02:37:28.705 --> 02:37:30.641
AUTHORIZATION. THE WITH A
02:37:30.707 --> 02:37:32.009
UNANIMOUS VOTE BY THE SAN
02:37:32.075 --> 02:37:33.443
FRANCISCO BOARD OF SUPERVISORS,
02:37:33.510 --> 02:37:35.179
A UNANIMOUS VOTE BY THE OAKLAND
02:37:35.245 --> 02:37:37.748
CITY COUNCIL. A UNANIMOUS VOTE
02:37:37.815 --> 02:37:40.517
BIPARTISAN BY THE L. A COUNTY
02:37:40.584 --> 02:37:42.352
BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND A 14 TO
02:37:42.419 --> 02:37:45.022
1 VOTE BY THE L. A CITY COUNCIL
02:37:45.088 --> 02:37:47.024
FOR THESE CITIES ARE ASKING US
02:37:47.090 --> 02:37:49.827
TO HELP THEM TO ADDRESS THE
02:37:49.893 --> 02:37:51.962
ESCALATION AND CRISIS OF
02:37:52.029 --> 02:37:53.330
OVERDOSE DEATHS THAT WERE
02:37:53.397 --> 02:37:54.364
EXPERIENCING IN CALIFORNIA AND
02:37:54.431 --> 02:37:58.035
BEYOND. WE KNOW THAT WE ARE
02:37:58.101 --> 02:37:59.970
EXPERIENCING A CRISIS OF
02:38:00.037 --> 02:38:01.071
OVERDOSE DEATHS AND THESE ARE
02:38:01.138 --> 02:38:03.874
PREVENTABLE. WHAT SAFE
02:38:03.941 --> 02:38:05.375
CONSUMPTION SITES DO AND THEY
02:38:05.442 --> 02:38:07.778
HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR ABOUT 30
02:38:07.845 --> 02:38:08.512
YEARS AROUND THE WORLD AND
02:38:08.579 --> 02:38:11.315
EUROPE AND CANADA AND AUSTRALIA
02:38:11.381 --> 02:38:14.484
MORE RECENTLY IN NEW YORK CITY.
02:38:14.551 --> 02:38:16.220
IS THEY ALLOW PEOPLE WHO ARE
02:38:16.286 --> 02:38:19.156
ALREADY, UM, USING DRUGS, OFTEN
02:38:19.223 --> 02:38:22.159
ON OUR STREETS ON OUR SIDEWALKS
02:38:22.226 --> 02:38:23.460
IN FRONT OF PEOPLE'S HOMES OR
02:38:23.527 --> 02:38:24.328
BUSINESSES, WHERE PEOPLE
02:38:24.394 --> 02:38:25.329
INCLUDING CHILDREN CAN SEE THEM
02:38:25.395 --> 02:38:28.332
USING DRUGS. ALLOWS THEM TO GO
02:38:28.398 --> 02:38:31.134
INSIDE TO A SAFE AND CLEAN SPACE
02:38:31.201 --> 02:38:32.336
WHERE THEY CAN BRING THE DRUGS
02:38:32.402 --> 02:38:34.171
THAT THEY WERE ALREADY GOING TO
02:38:34.238 --> 02:38:35.639
USE. AND USE IT IN AN
02:38:35.706 --> 02:38:37.507
ENVIRONMENT WHERE WE MAKE SURE
02:38:37.574 --> 02:38:38.642
THAT THEY HAVE CLEAN NEEDLES
02:38:38.709 --> 02:38:40.577
WHERE THEY WERE. THERE IS
02:38:40.644 --> 02:38:42.045
SUPERVISION, SO IF SOMEONE
02:38:42.112 --> 02:38:43.347
OVERDOSES, THE OVERDOSE CAN BE
02:38:43.413 --> 02:38:46.116
QUICKLY REVERSED. AND WHERE WE
02:38:46.183 --> 02:38:49.052
CAN CONNECT PEOPLE TO SERVICES
02:38:49.119 --> 02:38:50.520
AND ULTIMATELY, FOR A
02:38:50.587 --> 02:38:51.388
SIGNIFICANT PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE
02:38:51.455 --> 02:38:56.159
INTO RECOVERY SERVICES. THESE
02:38:56.226 --> 02:38:57.661
SITES HAVE BEEN EXTENSIVELY
02:38:57.728 --> 02:38:59.529
STUDIED, INCLUDING WITH VARIOUS
02:38:59.596 --> 02:39:02.165
, UM PEER REVIEWED STUDIES
02:39:02.232 --> 02:39:05.269
SHOWING HAT THEY REDUCE OVER
02:39:05.335 --> 02:39:07.804
THOSE STEPS, AND WE KNOW IN THE
02:39:07.871 --> 02:39:08.906
RECENT NEW YORK CITY SAFE
02:39:08.972 --> 02:39:10.641
CONSUMPTION SITE THAT OPENED UM
02:39:10.707 --> 02:39:12.142
, THERE. THEY'VE ALREADY
02:39:12.209 --> 02:39:14.278
REVERSED A NUMBER OF OVERDOSES
02:39:14.344 --> 02:39:16.280
THAT LIKELY WOULD HAVE RESULTED
02:39:16.346 --> 02:39:18.215
IN DEATH. HAD THEY NOT BEEN IN
02:39:18.282 --> 02:39:19.783
THOSE SPACES. WE KNOW THAT
02:39:19.850 --> 02:39:21.018
AROUND THE WORLD AND THE
02:39:21.084 --> 02:39:22.085
APPROXIMATELY 30 YEARS THESE
02:39:22.152 --> 02:39:24.955
SITES HAVE BEEN IN PLACE. WE'RE
02:39:25.022 --> 02:39:26.189
UNAWARE OF A SINGLE OVER THOSE
02:39:26.256 --> 02:39:31.395
DEATH. MASSIVE, NOT ONE OR 20.
02:39:31.461 --> 02:39:32.896
BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO
02:39:32.963 --> 02:39:34.131
REVERSE THOSE OVER THOSE DEATHS
02:39:34.197 --> 02:39:35.299
AND A PERCENTAGE OF THOSE PEOPLE
02:39:35.365 --> 02:39:38.368
WOULD HAVE DIED. HAD THEY NOT
02:39:38.435 --> 02:39:40.537
BEEN IN A SAFE CONSUMPTION SITE
02:39:40.604 --> 02:39:42.272
DECIDED TO REDUCE HEPATITIS AND
02:39:42.339 --> 02:39:43.874
HIV INFECTIONS. VERY DEUCE
02:39:43.941 --> 02:39:48.111
SYRINGE LITTER. AND CONTRARY TO
02:39:48.178 --> 02:39:50.681
SOME OF THE CLAIMS THAT WE HEAR
02:39:50.747 --> 02:39:54.518
THEY DO NOT INCREASE CRIME. UM.
02:39:54.584 --> 02:39:57.521
I ALSO WE KNOW THAT AND THIS IS
02:39:57.587 --> 02:39:59.623
IN THE VERY EXCELLENT ANALYSIS.
02:39:59.690 --> 02:40:03.527
ON PAGE FIVE, TALKING ABOUT THE
02:40:03.593 --> 02:40:06.863
NIH AND THE CDC DID AN ANALYSIS
02:40:06.930 --> 02:40:11.368
JUST LAST YEAR. UM AND IT SAYS,
02:40:11.435 --> 02:40:12.703
AS YOU CAN READ HERE, THE
02:40:12.769 --> 02:40:13.337
PREPONDERANCE OF THE EVIDENCE
02:40:13.403 --> 02:40:15.639
SUGGESTS THESE SITES ARE ABLE TO
02:40:15.706 --> 02:40:16.640
PROVIDE STERILE EQUIPMENT OVER
02:40:16.707 --> 02:40:18.075
THOSE REVERSAL AND LINKAGE TO
02:40:18.141 --> 02:40:20.577
MEDICAL CARE FOR ADDICTION. AND
02:40:20.644 --> 02:40:22.012
THE VIRTUAL ABSENCE OF
02:40:22.079 --> 02:40:24.381
SIGNIFICANT RISK DIRECT RISKS
02:40:24.448 --> 02:40:25.682
LIKE INCREASED DRUG USE, DRUG
02:40:25.749 --> 02:40:28.719
CELLS OR CRIME. WE'RE SEEING THE
02:40:28.785 --> 02:40:29.353
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT EVEN IMAGINE
02:40:29.419 --> 02:40:30.287
THAT THE U. S. FEDERAL
02:40:30.354 --> 02:40:34.024
GOVERNMENT START TO WARM UP TO
02:40:34.091 --> 02:40:36.593
THIS APPROACH. SO THIS IS NOT A
02:40:36.660 --> 02:40:41.531
SOME NEW UNTESTED STRATEGY.THIS
02:40:41.598 --> 02:40:43.033
IS A STRATEGY THAT'S BEEN AROUND
02:40:43.100 --> 02:40:44.601
FOR A LONG TIME. WE KNOW IT
02:40:44.668 --> 02:40:46.403
WORKS. WE KNOW IT SAVES LIVES.
02:40:46.470 --> 02:40:47.771
WE KNOW THAT OUR LOCAL
02:40:47.838 --> 02:40:48.972
COMMUNITIES ARE LITERALLY
02:40:49.039 --> 02:40:51.875
FORMALLY ASKING US. TO GIVE THEM
02:40:51.942 --> 02:40:53.777
PERMISSION TO PILOT THESE IN
02:40:53.844 --> 02:40:55.479
CALIFORNIA TO SAVE LIVES, AND I
02:40:55.545 --> 02:40:58.515
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR VOTE.
02:40:58.582 --> 02:41:01.351
UM WITH ME TODAY TO TESTIFY.
02:41:01.418 --> 02:41:03.920
SITTING TO MY WRITERS IS VIKA
02:41:03.987 --> 02:41:07.524
ASSASSIN WHO IS THE WITH
02:41:07.591 --> 02:41:09.126
PRESIDENT? CEO OF HEALTH RATE 3
02:41:09.192 --> 02:41:10.327
60, A COMMUNITY CLINIC IN SAN
02:41:10.394 --> 02:41:12.629
FRANCISCO. AND VICE PRESIDENT OF
02:41:12.696 --> 02:41:14.831
THE CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF
02:41:14.898 --> 02:41:16.133
ALCOHOL AND DRUG PROGRAM
02:41:16.199 --> 02:41:18.702
EXECUTIVES WERE ALSO JOINED BY
02:41:18.769 --> 02:41:21.371
DR DAVID KAHN, THE IMMEDIATE
02:41:21.438 --> 02:41:22.906
PAST PRESIDENT OF THE CALIFORNIA
02:41:22.973 --> 02:41:23.940
SOCIETY OF ADDICTION MEDICINE.
02:41:24.007 --> 02:41:25.876
HE'S AN ADDICTION PSYCHIATRIST.
02:41:25.942 --> 02:41:27.911
AND THEN HERE TO PROVIDE ANSWER
02:41:27.978 --> 02:41:29.112
TECHNICAL QUESTIONS. LARA THOMAS
02:41:29.179 --> 02:41:30.213
FROM THE SAN FRANCISCO AIDS
02:41:30.280 --> 02:41:32.649
FOUNDATION. THANK YOU FIVE
02:41:32.716 --> 02:41:37.654
MINUTES AND USE IT ANYWAY. WOULD
02:41:37.721 --> 02:41:38.255
YOU WITNESSES YOU MAY BEGIN.
02:41:38.321 --> 02:41:42.092
OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR
02:41:42.159 --> 02:41:44.161
HAVING ME HERE TODAY AGAIN. MY
02:41:44.227 --> 02:41:45.762
NAME IS VICTOR EISEN. AND I AM
02:41:45.829 --> 02:41:48.432
THE CEO FOR HEALTH. RIGHT 3 60
02:41:48.498 --> 02:41:49.566
WERE A TREATMENT ORGANIZATION
02:41:49.633 --> 02:41:50.567
PROVIDING SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER
02:41:50.634 --> 02:41:52.202
TREATMENT, UM, TO LOW INCOME
02:41:52.269 --> 02:41:55.205
CALIFORNIANS. BASED IN SAN
02:41:55.272 --> 02:41:56.139
FRANCISCO. WE OPERATE IN 10
02:41:56.206 --> 02:41:58.141
COUNTIES, AND I'M ALSO HERE
02:41:58.208 --> 02:41:59.042
REPRESENTING THE LARGEST
02:41:59.109 --> 02:42:00.577
PROVIDER ASSOCIATION,
02:42:00.644 --> 02:42:01.378
REPRESENTING MOST OF THE
02:42:01.445 --> 02:42:03.080
TREATMENT PROVIDERS WHO PROVIDE
02:42:03.146 --> 02:42:03.980
SERVICES TO THE MEDICAL
02:42:04.047 --> 02:42:04.514
POPULATION. SUBSTANCE USE
02:42:04.581 --> 02:42:06.883
SERVICES IN CALIFORNIA. ALSO A
02:42:06.950 --> 02:42:09.853
FORMER INJECTION HEROIN USER.
02:42:09.920 --> 02:42:12.756
AND IT CAME TO RECOVERY THROUGH
02:42:12.823 --> 02:42:15.225
THE PUBLIC TREATMENT SYSTEM IN
02:42:15.292 --> 02:42:17.461
IN CALIFORNIA HAVE OVER 30 YEARS
02:42:17.527 --> 02:42:18.495
EXPERIENCE IN THE FIELD OF
02:42:18.562 --> 02:42:21.264
TREATMENT. THOSE OF US WHO WORK
02:42:21.331 --> 02:42:22.666
IN TREATMENT REMAIN FOREVER
02:42:22.732 --> 02:42:23.834
COMMITTED TO HIGH QUALITY
02:42:23.900 --> 02:42:25.602
TREATMENT FOR PEOPLE WHO USE
02:42:25.669 --> 02:42:28.238
DRUGS. AND WE WERE FORTUNATE TO
02:42:28.305 --> 02:42:29.106
OPERATE IN THE STATE THAT
02:42:29.172 --> 02:42:30.173
EXPANDED TREATMENT VIA THE DRUG
02:42:30.240 --> 02:42:31.208
MEDICAL TREATMENT SERVICE
02:42:31.274 --> 02:42:35.545
DELIVERY SYSTEM. BUT EXPERIENCE
02:42:35.612 --> 02:42:37.614
SHOWS THAT SOME PEOPLE DO NOT
02:42:37.681 --> 02:42:38.782
MAKE IT THROUGH TREATMENT. IN
02:42:38.849 --> 02:42:40.150
FACT, ON AVERAGE, THE AVERAGE
02:42:40.217 --> 02:42:43.320
PERSON GO THROUGH TREATMENT
02:42:43.386 --> 02:42:45.522
TAKES ABOUT SIX DIFFERENT
02:42:45.589 --> 02:42:46.490
TREATMENT EPISODES TO HAVE A
02:42:46.556 --> 02:42:48.892
PERIOD OF LONG LASTING RECOVERY.
02:42:48.959 --> 02:42:51.394
SO IN THE FACE OF AN
02:42:51.461 --> 02:42:54.631
OVERWHELMING CRISIS OF DEATH.
02:42:54.698 --> 02:42:55.632
WHEN PEOPLE LEAVE TREATMENT
02:42:55.699 --> 02:42:58.268
PREMATURELY, THEY RISK DEATH.
02:42:58.335 --> 02:43:00.537
AND THAT IS A NEW CIRCUMSTANCES
02:43:00.604 --> 02:43:01.905
THAT CAN BE ATTRIBUTED TO THE
02:43:01.972 --> 02:43:03.073
TAINTED DRUGS. TOXIC DRUG SUPPLY
02:43:03.140 --> 02:43:06.643
CURRENTLY SO WE MUST DO
02:43:06.710 --> 02:43:07.644
SOMETHING DIFFERENT CANNOT DO
02:43:07.711 --> 02:43:09.312
THE SAME THINGS. NOW OUR
02:43:09.379 --> 02:43:11.648
OPPONENTS WILL TELL YOU WE
02:43:11.715 --> 02:43:12.315
SHOULD BE INVESTING IN TREATMENT
02:43:12.382 --> 02:43:14.518
INSTEAD OF THIS, BUT I SAID,
02:43:14.584 --> 02:43:16.119
THAT'S A FALSE WE SAY THAT THERE
02:43:16.186 --> 02:43:18.155
IS A FALSE DICHOTOMY THAT THIS
02:43:18.221 --> 02:43:19.222
IS A WAY OF KEEPING PEOPLE
02:43:19.289 --> 02:43:21.658
ENGAGED. SO THAT THEY CAN ENTER
02:43:21.725 --> 02:43:22.826
OR RE ENTER TREATMENT. WE REMAIN
02:43:22.893 --> 02:43:26.263
COMMITTED TO TREATMENT. DEAD
02:43:26.329 --> 02:43:27.330
PEOPLE DO NOT HAVE AN
02:43:27.397 --> 02:43:29.866
OPPORTUNITY AT RECOVERY.
02:43:29.933 --> 02:43:34.204
OPPONENTS WILL ALSO SAY. UM
02:43:34.271 --> 02:43:35.605
THERE WAS SOME RESEARCH SO
02:43:35.672 --> 02:43:37.607
CALLED RESEARCH THAT SAYS IN ONE
02:43:37.674 --> 02:43:40.644
COMMUNITY IN CANADA UH, IT
02:43:40.710 --> 02:43:42.946
DIDN'T REDUCE DRUG, YOU KNOW,
02:43:43.013 --> 02:43:45.949
SYRINGE LETTER. IT'S NOT A IT'S
02:43:46.016 --> 02:43:47.350
NOT A VALIDATED RESEARCH PIECES
02:43:47.417 --> 02:43:49.319
AND OPINION PIECE, SO IT ISN'T
02:43:49.386 --> 02:43:50.320
RESEARCH THAT'S APPEAR REVIEWED.
02:43:50.387 --> 02:43:51.488
IN ANY ACADEMIC PEER REVIEWED
02:43:51.555 --> 02:43:55.825
JOURNAL. OUR OPPONENTS WILL SAY
02:43:55.892 --> 02:43:58.295
OVERDOSE RATES CONTINUE TO GO UP
02:43:58.361 --> 02:44:00.096
EVEN WERE IN PLACES WHERE THEY
02:44:00.163 --> 02:44:01.765
HAVE SUPERVISED CONSUMPTION
02:44:01.831 --> 02:44:03.166
SERVICES AND AGAIN, I WILL SAY
02:44:03.233 --> 02:44:05.669
THAT IS ATTRIBUTED TO THE TOXIC
02:44:05.735 --> 02:44:07.170
TAINTED DRUG SUPPLY CURRENTLY
02:44:07.237 --> 02:44:08.405
AND IN PLACES WHERE THEY HAVE
02:44:08.471 --> 02:44:10.607
SUPERVISED DRUG CONSUMPTION.
02:44:10.674 --> 02:44:12.309
LITERALLY THOUSANDS AND
02:44:12.375 --> 02:44:13.843
THOUSANDS OF LIVES HAVE BEEN
02:44:13.910 --> 02:44:14.444
SAVED BECAUSE THEY HAVE THESE
02:44:14.511 --> 02:44:16.313
SERVICES. THIS IS NOT A PANACEA
02:44:16.379 --> 02:44:18.348
, BUT IN THE FACE OF A CRISIS,
02:44:18.415 --> 02:44:19.382
WE MUST DO THINGS DIFFERENT. AND
02:44:19.449 --> 02:44:23.153
FINALLY THEY WILL SAY WE MUST AH
02:44:23.220 --> 02:44:24.421
, WE YOU KNOW, WE MUST FALL BACK
02:44:24.487 --> 02:44:26.189
ON TOUGH LOVE THAT WE'RE
02:44:26.256 --> 02:44:28.091
CODDLING PEOPLE WHO USE DRUGS.
02:44:28.158 --> 02:44:29.226
WELL, LET ME TELL YOU AS
02:44:29.292 --> 02:44:31.027
SOMEBODY WHO HAS WORKED IN THIS
02:44:31.094 --> 02:44:32.195
FIELD FOR SO LONG. THAT THE
02:44:32.262 --> 02:44:34.030
PEOPLE WHO ARE USING DRUGS AND
02:44:34.097 --> 02:44:35.165
OUR COMMUNITIES TODAY THE PEOPLE
02:44:35.232 --> 02:44:36.199
WHO ARE NOT IN TREATMENT OR
02:44:36.266 --> 02:44:38.168
LIVING IN A PLACE OF ABJECT
02:44:38.235 --> 02:44:40.103
MISERY. WE CANNOT MAKE THEM MORE
02:44:40.170 --> 02:44:41.137
MISERABLE. THIS WILL NOT DRIVE
02:44:41.204 --> 02:44:42.205
THEM TO TREATMENT. AND WE
02:44:42.272 --> 02:44:45.442
CANNOT. INCARCERATE OUR WAY OUT
02:44:45.508 --> 02:44:47.043
OF THIS. THAT IS A DEMONSTRABLY
02:44:47.110 --> 02:44:49.713
FAILED POLICY THAT RESULTED
02:44:49.779 --> 02:44:51.381
DEVASTATING IMPACTS TO BLACK AND
02:44:51.448 --> 02:44:52.882
BROWN COMMUNITIES AND MASS
02:44:52.949 --> 02:44:53.883
INCARCERATION IN CALIFORNIA AND
02:44:53.950 --> 02:44:56.553
IN THIS COUNTRY. SO THAT'S NOT
02:44:56.620 --> 02:44:58.288
NEW POLICY. THAT'S ALL BAD
02:44:58.355 --> 02:45:02.192
HISTORY. THE ONLY ANTIDOTE
02:45:02.259 --> 02:45:03.093
CURRENTLY WE BELIEVE TO
02:45:03.159 --> 02:45:05.061
ADDICTION IS CONNECTION. WE ASK
02:45:05.128 --> 02:45:08.231
YOU TO LISTEN TO THE RESEARCH.
02:45:08.298 --> 02:45:09.332
LISTEN TO REASON. LISTEN TO
02:45:09.399 --> 02:45:12.269
DECADES OF EXPERIENCE. BE BRAVE
02:45:12.335 --> 02:45:14.904
. REMEMBER THAT NEEDLE EXCHANGES
02:45:14.971 --> 02:45:16.139
WERE ONCE RENEGADE POLICY THAT
02:45:16.206 --> 02:45:18.408
WE DID IN THE FACE OF DRUG. I'M
02:45:18.475 --> 02:45:20.443
SORRY OF HIV HIV CRISIS WE ASK
02:45:20.510 --> 02:45:22.879
YOU TO DO SO AGAIN. PLEASE
02:45:22.946 --> 02:45:24.648
SUPPORT THIS BILL AND LET US
02:45:24.714 --> 02:45:28.885
SAVE SOME LIVES. THANK YOU WAS
02:45:28.952 --> 02:45:30.854
ANOTHER WITNESS OR CON WHO'S ON
02:45:30.920 --> 02:45:32.856
THE PHONE ON THE PHONE OPERATOR.
02:45:32.922 --> 02:45:36.860
HELLO? HELLO THIS IS DR DAVID
02:45:36.926 --> 02:45:38.595
KAHN. I AM THE PAST PRESIDENT OF
02:45:38.662 --> 02:45:40.263
CALIFORNIA SOCIETY OF ADDICTION
02:45:40.330 --> 02:45:41.398
MEDICINE, AND WE WERE REPRESENTS
02:45:41.464 --> 02:45:43.933
THE VOICE OF TREATMENT. WE ARE
02:45:44.000 --> 02:45:46.536
PROUD BECAUSE SPONSORS OF SP 57
02:45:46.603 --> 02:45:48.371
BECAUSE WELL, WE RECOGNIZED THAT
02:45:48.438 --> 02:45:49.906
PEOPLE SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER
02:45:49.973 --> 02:45:51.508
TAKES TIME TO CHANGE AND THE
02:45:51.574 --> 02:45:52.509
PARTICIPANTS WITHIN THESE
02:45:52.575 --> 02:45:55.278
PROGRAMS SO THAT THAT WE WANT
02:45:55.345 --> 02:45:57.080
WITHIN THE C SAM TREATMENT
02:45:57.147 --> 02:45:59.516
SETTING. HOWEVER THE RISK OF
02:45:59.582 --> 02:46:01.284
FATAL OVERDOSE IS EXTREMELY HIGH
02:46:01.351 --> 02:46:03.520
AS VICTOR EYES AND TOLD YOU
02:46:03.586 --> 02:46:05.422
THESE PROGRAMS OFFERED UNIQUE
02:46:05.488 --> 02:46:07.390
OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE PEOPLE
02:46:07.457 --> 02:46:09.759
WHERE THEY ARE AND DEMONSTRABLE
02:46:09.826 --> 02:46:11.695
EVIDENCE IS THAT IT INCREASES
02:46:11.761 --> 02:46:14.531
THE RATES TREATMENT ACCESS.
02:46:14.597 --> 02:46:16.633
PARTICIPANTS WITHIN THE PROGRAM
02:46:16.700 --> 02:46:17.334
. THERE HAVE BEEN LITERALLY
02:46:17.400 --> 02:46:19.669
MILLIONS OF DOSES ADMINISTERED
02:46:19.736 --> 02:46:21.471
IN SIMILAR PROGRAMS ACROSS THE
02:46:21.538 --> 02:46:23.306
WORLD, AND THERE'S NOT BEEN A
02:46:23.373 --> 02:46:24.774
SINGLE OVERDOSE THE DATE AND I
02:46:24.841 --> 02:46:26.209
THINK ONE OF THE MOST PROMISING
02:46:26.276 --> 02:46:28.878
PIECES IS THAT THE LIKELIHOOD OF
02:46:28.945 --> 02:46:30.380
ENTERED TREATMENT BECAUSE YOU
02:46:30.447 --> 02:46:31.414
PARTICIPATED PROGRAM BECAUSE OF
02:46:31.481 --> 02:46:35.185
THE WHOLE 30. SO WITH THAT I
02:46:35.251 --> 02:46:37.554
STRONGLY URGE YOUR IPHONES AS
02:46:37.620 --> 02:46:40.290
CTM IS STRONGLY SUPPORT BECAUSE
02:46:40.357 --> 02:46:42.025
THAT HELPS TO TREAT THE PEOPLE
02:46:42.092 --> 02:46:43.393
THAT WE WANT TO BE TREATING OVER
02:46:43.460 --> 02:46:48.565
TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND
02:46:48.631 --> 02:46:50.633
ANY WITNESSES IN THE HEARING
02:46:50.700 --> 02:46:52.302
ROOM IN SUPPORT NAME AND
02:46:52.369 --> 02:46:55.739
ORGANIZATION, PLEASE. GOOD
02:46:55.805 --> 02:46:56.940
MORNING, GLENN BACCHUS FOR
02:46:57.006 --> 02:46:58.675
YELLOW BAKER CENTERFOR HUMAN
02:46:58.742 --> 02:47:00.543
RIGHTS. I WAS ASKED BY THESE
02:47:00.610 --> 02:47:01.544
ORGANIZATIONS TO ENTER THEIR
02:47:01.611 --> 02:47:03.580
NAME INTO THE RECORD. FACE TO
02:47:03.646 --> 02:47:05.515
FACE FAIR CHANCE PROJECT FRIENDS
02:47:05.582 --> 02:47:06.583
COMMITTEE ON LEGISLATION OF
02:47:06.649 --> 02:47:08.485
CALIFORNIA HIV AND EDUCATION
02:47:08.551 --> 02:47:09.519
PREVENTION PROJECT OF ALAMEDA
02:47:09.586 --> 02:47:12.756
COUNTY. HOME RISE. INITIATE
02:47:12.822 --> 02:47:14.758
JUSTICE LARKIN STREET YOUTH
02:47:14.824 --> 02:47:17.260
SERVICES, LOS ANGELES LGBT
02:47:17.327 --> 02:47:18.395
CENTER AND NATIONAL HARM
02:47:18.461 --> 02:47:19.362
REDUCTION COALITION. THANK YOU.
02:47:19.429 --> 02:47:28.538
THANK YOU. GOT IT. THANK YOU. UM
02:47:28.605 --> 02:47:31.274
UH LARA THOMAS ON BEHALF OF THE
02:47:31.341 --> 02:47:32.776
SAN FRANCISCO ITS FOUNDATION AND
02:47:32.842 --> 02:47:33.777
WAS ALSO ASKED TO READ THESE
02:47:33.843 --> 02:47:35.211
NAMES INTO THE RECORD AS
02:47:35.278 --> 02:47:36.446
SUPPORTERS A NEW PATH PARENTS
02:47:36.513 --> 02:47:37.447
FOR ADDICTION, TREATMENT AND
02:47:37.514 --> 02:47:39.849
HEALING. ASIAN AMERICAN DRUG
02:47:39.916 --> 02:47:41.351
ABUSE PROGRAM INC. A C L U
02:47:41.418 --> 02:47:44.254
CALIFORNIA ACTION ÁP L A HEALTH
02:47:44.320 --> 02:47:46.055
CALIFORNIA HEPATITIS ALLIANCE.
02:47:46.122 --> 02:47:47.056
CAL HAB CALIFORNIA PUBLIC
02:47:47.123 --> 02:47:49.893
DEFENDERS ASSOCIATION. COMMUNITY
02:47:49.959 --> 02:47:50.860
CLINIC ASSOCIATION OF LOS
02:47:50.927 --> 02:47:52.896
ANGELES COUNTY COMMUNITY FORWARD
02:47:52.962 --> 02:47:54.531
SAN FRANCISCO COMPASS, FAMILY
02:47:54.597 --> 02:47:56.032
SERVICES AND CENTRAL VALLEY
02:47:56.099 --> 02:47:57.066
RECOVERY SERVICES. ALL IN
02:47:57.133 --> 02:48:01.137
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. COMBINING
02:48:01.204 --> 02:48:02.038
CHAIR AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS
02:48:02.105 --> 02:48:03.540
WESLEY SAVER ON BEHALF OF GLIDE
02:48:03.606 --> 02:48:05.742
, ALSO SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF
02:48:05.809 --> 02:48:07.777
MOMS FOR ALL PASSED TO RECOVERY
02:48:07.844 --> 02:48:09.279
FROM ADDICTION RECOVERY ADVOCACY
02:48:09.345 --> 02:48:10.580
PROJECT SAFER INSIDE COALITION,
02:48:10.647 --> 02:48:11.614
SAN FRANCISCO DEPARTMENT OF
02:48:11.681 --> 02:48:14.150
PUBLIC HEALTH SAN FRANCISCO
02:48:14.217 --> 02:48:16.252
HEPATITIS C TASK FORCE. SAN
02:48:16.319 --> 02:48:17.220
FRANCISCO PUBLIC DEFENDER'S
02:48:17.287 --> 02:48:18.822
OFFICE. SAN FRANCISCO TREATMENT
02:48:18.888 --> 02:48:20.256
ON DEMAND COALITION SMART
02:48:20.323 --> 02:48:22.325
JUSTICE, CALIFORNIA TENDERLOIN
02:48:22.392 --> 02:48:22.826
NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT
02:48:22.892 --> 02:48:24.060
CORPORATION, THE GEO GROUP AND
02:48:24.127 --> 02:48:28.631
THE RUBIO PROJECT. THANK YOU.
02:48:28.698 --> 02:48:30.133
CHAIRPERSON AND COMMITTEE
02:48:30.200 --> 02:48:32.035
MEMBERS, NICCOLO DI LUCA HERE ON
02:48:32.101 --> 02:48:33.303
BEHALF OF THE OAKLAND MAYOR,
02:48:33.369 --> 02:48:34.337
LIBBY, CHEF AND THE OAKLAND CITY
02:48:34.404 --> 02:48:36.806
COUNCIL AND STRONG SUPPORT AND
02:48:36.873 --> 02:48:37.974
APPRECIATE BEING PART OF THIS
02:48:38.041 --> 02:48:39.008
PILOT PROGRAM. THANK YOU. THANK
02:48:39.075 --> 02:48:41.277
YOU. GOOD MORNING, MR CHAIR
02:48:41.344 --> 02:48:42.178
MEMBERS, CARLOS GUTIERREZ ON
02:48:42.245 --> 02:48:43.680
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
02:48:43.746 --> 02:48:44.347
CONSORTIUM, PROGRAMS OF
02:48:44.414 --> 02:48:45.415
ADDICTION PROGRAMS AND
02:48:45.482 --> 02:48:49.586
PROFESSIONALS AND SUPPORT. GOOD
02:48:49.652 --> 02:48:51.120
AFTERNOON, TYE WERE WINDY ON
02:48:51.187 --> 02:48:52.255
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA SOC
02:48:52.322 --> 02:48:53.056
ATION OF ALCOHOL AND DRUG
02:48:53.122 --> 02:48:54.123
PROGRAMS. EJECUTIVAS AS A PROUD
02:48:54.190 --> 02:48:55.959
CO SPONSOR AND SUPPORT THANK
02:48:56.025 --> 02:48:58.895
YOU. GOOD MORNING, MR CHAIR AND
02:48:58.962 --> 02:49:00.163
MEMBERS KARIN LANG ON BEHALF OF
02:49:00.230 --> 02:49:01.998
SAN FRANCISCO. MAYOR LONDON.
02:49:02.065 --> 02:49:02.899
BRANDON STRONG SUPPORT THIS
02:49:02.966 --> 02:49:06.269
MORNING. THANK YOU. MR CHAIRMAN
02:49:06.336 --> 02:49:08.471
MEMBERS. DAN PHIL, IS THAT ON
02:49:08.538 --> 02:49:09.739
BEHALF OF THE LOS ANGELES COUNTY
02:49:09.806 --> 02:49:10.773
DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND
02:49:10.840 --> 02:49:14.344
SUPPORT GOOD MORNING CHAIR AND
02:49:14.410 --> 02:49:15.645
MEMBERS SAID LITTLE ON BEHALF OF
02:49:15.712 --> 02:49:16.546
CALIFORNIA'S FOR SAFETY AND
02:49:16.613 --> 02:49:18.615
JUSTICE AND TIME DONE IN
02:49:18.681 --> 02:49:22.385
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING
02:49:22.452 --> 02:49:24.287
. GARY MCCOY ON BEHALF OF HEALTH
02:49:24.354 --> 02:49:25.955
RATE, 3 60. STRONG SUPPORT.
02:49:26.022 --> 02:49:27.790
THANK YOU NOW GO TO THE PHONE
02:49:27.857 --> 02:49:31.761
LINES FOR WITNESSES AND SUPPORT.
02:49:31.828 --> 02:49:34.163
THANK YOU, IF NOT ALREADY DONE
02:49:34.230 --> 02:49:36.733
SO FOR WITNESSES IN SUPPORT OF
02:49:36.799 --> 02:49:38.034
SB 57, PLEASE PRESS ONE AND
02:49:38.101 --> 02:49:43.773
ZERO. LINE, 105 GO AHEAD. MR
02:49:43.840 --> 02:49:46.509
CHAIR AND MEMBERS. SYLVIA POLICE
02:49:46.576 --> 02:49:48.678
SHOT ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF
02:49:48.745 --> 02:49:49.846
LOS ANGELES AND STRONG SUPPORT.
02:49:49.913 --> 02:49:54.083
THANK YOU. LINE. 1 11, PLEASE GO
02:49:54.150 --> 02:49:58.655
AHEAD. GOOD MORNING, REBECCA
02:49:58.721 --> 02:50:00.590
GONZALEZ FOR THE NATIONALIST SOC
02:50:00.657 --> 02:50:01.724
ATION OF SOCIAL WORKERS,
02:50:01.791 --> 02:50:02.659
CALIFORNIA CHAPTER AND STRONG
02:50:02.725 --> 02:50:06.663
SUPPORT. LINE. 113, PLEASE GO
02:50:06.729 --> 02:50:10.867
AHEAD. CARA JIMBO EASTMAN WITH
02:50:10.934 --> 02:50:12.068
THE STEINBERG INSTITUTE AND
02:50:12.135 --> 02:50:17.106
STRONG SUPPORT. LINE. 106,
02:50:17.173 --> 02:50:21.778
PLEASE GO AHEAD. A LITTLE. MY
02:50:21.844 --> 02:50:23.079
NAME IS JEFF SMITH. I'M THE
02:50:23.146 --> 02:50:24.547
CAPACITY BUILDING IMAGER WITH
02:50:24.614 --> 02:50:25.515
NATIONAL HARM REDUCTION
02:50:25.582 --> 02:50:27.283
COALITION AND WE ARE CALLING IN
02:50:27.350 --> 02:50:31.054
A STRONG SUPPORT. LINE. 115,
02:50:31.120 --> 02:50:36.025
PLEASE GO AHEAD. MR TURN MEMBERS
02:50:36.092 --> 02:50:37.560
ROB LANE WITH THE CALIFORNIA
02:50:37.627 --> 02:50:38.227
COUNSELOR, COMMUNITY, BEHAVIORAL
02:50:38.294 --> 02:50:43.633
HEALTH AGENCIES AND SUPPORT.
02:50:43.700 --> 02:50:48.037
LINE. 103, PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD
02:50:48.104 --> 02:50:49.372
MORNING CHAIR AND COMMITTEE. MY
02:50:49.439 --> 02:50:51.140
NAME'S SOMA FROM LOS ANGELES.
02:50:51.207 --> 02:50:53.109
I'M CALLING IN STRONG SUPPORT OF
02:50:53.176 --> 02:50:55.678
SB 57 ON BEHALF OF THE SIDEWALK
02:50:55.745 --> 02:50:58.948
PROJECT. THANK YOU. BLIND 107,
02:50:59.015 --> 02:51:04.153
PLEASE GO AHEAD. OPHELIA
02:51:04.220 --> 02:51:05.154
SPAGHETTI ON BEHALF OF THE
02:51:05.221 --> 02:51:06.923
COUNTY BEHAVIORAL HEALTH
02:51:06.990 --> 02:51:07.790
DIRECTORS ASSOCIATION IN
02:51:07.857 --> 02:51:12.528
SUPPORT. LINE. 117, PLEASE GO
02:51:12.595 --> 02:51:20.036
AHEAD. SO YOU AND I AM CALLING
02:51:20.103 --> 02:51:23.139
AND STRONG SUPPORT FOR SEVEN ON
02:51:23.206 --> 02:51:25.975
BEHALF OF DRUG POLICY ALLIANCE
02:51:26.042 --> 02:51:28.044
TREATMENT CENTERS. LOOK LGBT
02:51:28.111 --> 02:51:29.045
CENTER RAINBOW CRIED YOUTH
02:51:29.112 --> 02:51:32.315
ALLIANCE. WES KERRICK,
02:51:32.382 --> 02:51:33.716
CALIFORNIA INC. SHANTY AND
02:51:33.783 --> 02:51:34.817
CENTRALCALLEGAL AND RUNNING.
02:51:34.884 --> 02:51:41.057
THANK YOU. I MEET UP LINE 78,
02:51:41.124 --> 02:51:43.159
PLEASE GO AHEAD AND I JUST OPEN
02:51:43.226 --> 02:51:44.661
EVERYTHING UP. I I'M HAVING
02:51:44.727 --> 02:51:48.898
SECTOR CALLING FROM VENICE. LOS
02:51:48.965 --> 02:51:51.034
ANGELES AREA, CALLING ON BEHALF
02:51:51.100 --> 02:51:52.101
OF THE CENTER FOR LIVING AND
02:51:52.168 --> 02:51:54.037
LEARNING. THE ARE STRONGLY
02:51:54.103 --> 02:52:02.545
SUPPORTING 57 THANK YOU. THANK
02:52:02.612 --> 02:52:03.780
YOU AND MR CHAIR. THERE ARE NO
02:52:03.846 --> 02:52:07.216
OTHERS IN SUPPORT OF SB 57. NOW
02:52:07.283 --> 02:52:10.620
GO TO OPPOSITION IN THE ROOM ANY
02:52:10.687 --> 02:52:13.022
WENT IN OPPOSITION TO SB 57.
02:52:13.089 --> 02:52:18.294
COULD YOU. COULD YOU CLEAR THE
02:52:18.361 --> 02:52:20.229
WAY SO THAT WE COULD HAVE THANK
02:52:20.296 --> 02:52:29.972
YOU. HAVE A SEAT. YOU HAVE FIVE
02:52:30.039 --> 02:52:36.779
MINUTES. FOR TO SPLIT UP ANYWAY.
02:52:36.846 --> 02:52:37.513
2.5 MINUTES APIECE OR YES, SIR.
02:52:37.580 --> 02:52:43.886
OKAY. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS
02:52:43.953 --> 02:52:45.088
TODD ALLEN. I'M THE LEGISLATIVE
02:52:45.154 --> 02:52:46.222
CHAIR FOR THE CALIFORNIA
02:52:46.289 --> 02:52:48.091
DEMOCRATIC PARTY BLACK CAUCUS. I
02:52:48.157 --> 02:52:49.358
AM ALSO THE PRESIDENT OF THE
02:52:49.425 --> 02:52:50.259
INTERNATIONAL FAITH BASED
02:52:50.326 --> 02:52:51.894
COALITION. AND WE ARE
02:52:51.961 --> 02:52:53.096
COLLECTIVELY AND OPPOSITION FOR
02:52:53.162 --> 02:52:54.630
SB 57. AFTER RUNNING CAREFUL
02:52:54.697 --> 02:52:59.035
ANALYSIS. UM AFTER EACH
02:52:59.102 --> 02:53:01.037
AMENDMENT, SP 57 STILL FALLS
02:53:01.104 --> 02:53:02.872
FLAT WHEN IT COMES TO PRESENTING
02:53:02.939 --> 02:53:04.640
OF SOME OF THE FACTS PROPERLY
02:53:04.707 --> 02:53:05.908
BECAUSE THIS UNINTENDED HARMS
02:53:05.975 --> 02:53:06.943
THAT WILL COME TO ALREADY
02:53:07.009 --> 02:53:08.010
STRUGGLING COMMUNITIES THROUGH
02:53:08.077 --> 02:53:09.112
AN IRONIC LENS OF HARM
02:53:09.178 --> 02:53:11.247
REDUCTION. IT LACKS
02:53:11.314 --> 02:53:12.782
REHABILITATIVE STRUCTURES AND
02:53:12.849 --> 02:53:13.483
WHATNOT PLACE MENTAL HEALTH
02:53:13.549 --> 02:53:14.550
THERAPIST OR SUBSTANCE ABUSE
02:53:14.617 --> 02:53:16.853
COUNSELORS WITHIN THE SITES.
02:53:16.919 --> 02:53:17.954
THIS BILL ALSO LEAVES NO
02:53:18.020 --> 02:53:18.955
TREATMENT OPTIONS FOR THE
02:53:19.021 --> 02:53:21.324
REALIZATION OF THE SITES. UM FOR
02:53:21.390 --> 02:53:22.759
THOSE WHO ENTER SUBSTANCE USE,
02:53:22.825 --> 02:53:24.160
REHABILITATION AND TREATMENT
02:53:24.227 --> 02:53:26.295
PLAN GIVES USERS A PAMPHLET OR
02:53:26.362 --> 02:53:27.463
RESOURCES AS THEY ENTER OR EXIT
02:53:27.530 --> 02:53:29.398
THE SITE. WE FIND THAT IT IS
02:53:29.465 --> 02:53:30.399
IMPOSSIBLE TO STABILIZE THE
02:53:30.466 --> 02:53:33.336
COMMUNITY ON ADDICTED MINDS, SO
02:53:33.402 --> 02:53:34.504
WE FEEL STRONGLY THAT IT IS
02:53:34.570 --> 02:53:37.640
NECESSARY TO IMPLEMENT THOSE
02:53:37.707 --> 02:53:38.241
REHABILITATED FEATURES WITHIN
02:53:38.307 --> 02:53:41.244
THE SITES WITH PROPER SUPPORTS.
02:53:41.310 --> 02:53:43.279
FURTHERMORE THE BILL IS WRITTEN
02:53:43.346 --> 02:53:44.247
ON POORLY STRUCTURED METRICS
02:53:44.313 --> 02:53:45.148
THAT DO NOT INCLUDE THE MANY
02:53:45.214 --> 02:53:46.549
ISSUES INJECTION SITES IN BOTH
02:53:46.616 --> 02:53:47.917
CANADA AND HARLEM HAVE REPORTED
02:53:47.984 --> 02:53:49.619
INJECTION SITES HAVE REPORTED TO
02:53:49.685 --> 02:53:50.653
BE SEVERELY UNDERUTILIZED,
02:53:50.720 --> 02:53:51.687
SERVICING A SMALL PERSON OF
02:53:51.754 --> 02:53:53.623
IDENTIFIED USERS. ALL THE WHILE
02:53:53.689 --> 02:53:55.091
REPORTING METRICS FOR SUCCESS DO
02:53:55.158 --> 02:53:56.826
NOT INCLUDE OVERDOSE ISSUES
02:53:56.893 --> 02:53:57.760
TRANSPIRING RIGHT OUTSIDE THE
02:53:57.827 --> 02:53:59.662
VERY DOORS. OF THE INJECTION
02:53:59.729 --> 02:54:01.330
SITES WHEN METRICS PRESENTED
02:54:01.397 --> 02:54:03.499
ONLY COVER WHAT HAPPENS WITHIN
02:54:03.566 --> 02:54:04.901
THE DOORS OF THE SITE? OF COURSE
02:54:04.967 --> 02:54:06.736
, WE HAVE 100% SUCCESS BUT DO
02:54:06.803 --> 02:54:08.237
NOT ACCOUNT FOR THE UNINTENDED
02:54:08.304 --> 02:54:10.273
ISSUES ON THE PROPERTY OF THOSE
02:54:10.339 --> 02:54:11.707
SITES. WE ALSO FIND SERVICE GAPS
02:54:11.774 --> 02:54:13.209
, LEAVING ROOM FOR UNINTENDED
02:54:13.276 --> 02:54:14.377
HARMS ONCE AGAIN IN COMMUNITIES
02:54:14.443 --> 02:54:17.146
THE SETTER PLACED IN INJECTION
02:54:17.213 --> 02:54:18.815
SITES OF THIS START CREATING
02:54:18.881 --> 02:54:20.149
GRAVITATIONAL POOL FOR USERS WHO
02:54:20.216 --> 02:54:21.818
WILL ENGAGE IN SUBSTANCE USE IN
02:54:21.884 --> 02:54:22.552
THE VICINITY, BUT NOT
02:54:22.618 --> 02:54:24.821
NECESSARILY WITHIN THE DOORS OF
02:54:24.887 --> 02:54:25.354
THE SITES. THIS WAS ALSO
02:54:25.421 --> 02:54:26.222
REPORTED BY BOTH CANADA. IN
02:54:26.289 --> 02:54:30.393
HARLEM. UM FURTHERMORE, HARLEM
02:54:30.459 --> 02:54:32.662
HAS REPORTED A MAJOR ISSUE WHERE
02:54:32.728 --> 02:54:34.163
100% OF INJECTION SITES
02:54:34.230 --> 02:54:35.164
DEVELOPED, REPLACED IN LOW
02:54:35.231 --> 02:54:37.266
INCOME URBAN COMMUNITIES.
02:54:37.333 --> 02:54:38.267
FUNDAMENTALLY THE INTENTION OF
02:54:38.334 --> 02:54:43.005
THIS BILL. IT'S GREAT. PEOPLE'S
02:54:43.072 --> 02:54:44.340
LIVES SHOULD BE SAVED. WE SHOULD
02:54:44.407 --> 02:54:45.374
NOT CONTINUE CRIMINALIZING
02:54:45.441 --> 02:54:46.676
SUBSTANCE USERS WHO STRUGGLE
02:54:46.742 --> 02:54:48.144
WITH ADDICTION. WE HAVE NO
02:54:48.211 --> 02:54:49.712
INTENTION OF DOING SO, HOWEVER,
02:54:49.779 --> 02:54:51.147
THIS BILL HAS GREATLY OVERLOOKED
02:54:51.214 --> 02:54:52.281
THE MANY HARMS COMMUNITIES
02:54:52.348 --> 02:54:53.282
HOSTING THESE SITES CURRENTLY
02:54:53.349 --> 02:54:54.517
EXPERIENCE AND I FELT TO
02:54:54.584 --> 02:54:56.385
REPRESENT THE OTHER HALF OF THE
02:54:56.452 --> 02:54:58.788
STORY. USERS WHO DO NOT ANSWER
02:54:58.855 --> 02:55:00.022
THE SITES BUT USE OUTSIDE THE
02:55:00.089 --> 02:55:02.091
SITES AND OVERDOSE. MIGHT NOT
02:55:02.158 --> 02:55:03.092
GET ASSISTANCE IN THESE CASES
02:55:03.159 --> 02:55:05.027
AND IN SOME CASES HAVE NOT
02:55:05.094 --> 02:55:06.529
BETWEEN HARLEM AND VANCOUVER,
02:55:06.596 --> 02:55:07.363
CANADA, AS WELL AS THE
02:55:07.430 --> 02:55:08.664
GRAVITATIONAL PULL OF SUBSTANCE
02:55:08.731 --> 02:55:10.266
USERS TO THE ALREADY RUN DOWN
02:55:10.333 --> 02:55:11.133
AND STRUGGLING COMMUNITIES. IF
02:55:11.200 --> 02:55:12.735
WE ARE TRULY GIVING COMMUNITIES
02:55:12.802 --> 02:55:14.203
A FIGHTING CHANCE, A FEW SMALL
02:55:14.270 --> 02:55:15.872
ALTERATIONS TO THIS BILL CAN
02:55:15.938 --> 02:55:17.707
STRENGTHEN THE BILL AND MAKE IT
02:55:17.773 --> 02:55:19.008
GREAT. HOWEVER THE BLACK CAUCUS
02:55:19.075 --> 02:55:20.276
FOUND THAT THIS DOES NOT
02:55:20.343 --> 02:55:21.544
NECESSARILY LEAVE A FIGHTING
02:55:21.611 --> 02:55:23.379
CHANCE FOR THE COMMUNITIES. WE
02:55:23.446 --> 02:55:24.680
PLACE THESE SITES AND TWO AND
02:55:24.747 --> 02:55:25.414
THERE HAS BEEN NO CONVERSATION
02:55:25.481 --> 02:55:26.716
SURROUNDING THOSE EFFORTS TO
02:55:26.782 --> 02:55:28.517
MAKE SURE WE SAFEGUARD THAT
02:55:28.584 --> 02:55:30.753
COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
02:55:30.820 --> 02:55:33.189
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR CHAIR.
02:55:33.256 --> 02:55:34.657
MY NAME IS MICHAEL
02:55:34.724 --> 02:55:35.558
SHELLENBERGER. I'M THE AUTHOR OF
02:55:35.625 --> 02:55:37.226
SAN FRANCISCO, A BOOK ABOUT THE
02:55:37.293 --> 02:55:39.161
DRUG CRISIS AND HOMELESS CRISIS
02:55:39.228 --> 02:55:41.297
IN CALIFORNIA. AS A JOURNALIST.
02:55:41.364 --> 02:55:42.832
I WAS THE FIRST TO DISCOVER THAT
02:55:42.899 --> 02:55:44.267
SAN FRANCISCO IS OPERATING AN
02:55:44.333 --> 02:55:45.234
ILLEGAL SUPERVISED DRUG
02:55:45.301 --> 02:55:47.837
CONSUMPTION SITE. I FIND IT
02:55:47.904 --> 02:55:50.273
ASTONISHING THAT THE TWO PEOPLE
02:55:50.339 --> 02:55:51.574
THAT ARE ADVOCATING THIS BILL
02:55:51.641 --> 02:55:53.142
DIDN'T DIDN'T MENTION THAT
02:55:53.209 --> 02:55:54.644
PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST SHOWS
02:55:54.710 --> 02:55:58.247
THAT 20.7% OF THE PEOPLE THAT
02:55:58.314 --> 02:55:59.415
HAVE GONE THROUGH THE SO CALLED
02:55:59.482 --> 02:56:00.650
TENDERLOIN LINKAGE CENTER. HAVE
02:56:00.716 --> 02:56:02.018
BEEN REFERRED TO DRUG
02:56:02.084 --> 02:56:04.186
REHABILITATION. IN ADDITION,
02:56:04.253 --> 02:56:05.121
PUBLIC RECORDS REQUESTS SHOW
02:56:05.187 --> 02:56:07.156
THAT ONE OF THE OPERATORS GARRY
02:56:07.223 --> 02:56:08.324
MCCOY, WHO IS ALSO IN THE
02:56:08.391 --> 02:56:10.526
AUDIENCE FABRICATED DATA.
02:56:10.593 --> 02:56:12.828
THERE'S AN EMAIL FROM PEOPLE IN
02:56:12.895 --> 02:56:14.163
SAN FRANCISCO GOVERNMENT SAYING
02:56:14.230 --> 02:56:16.165
THAT HE MADE UP DATA SO WE DON'T
02:56:16.232 --> 02:56:17.667
EVEN KNOW IF THESE NUMBERS ARE
02:56:17.733 --> 02:56:18.868
CORRECT. I SUPPORT HARM
02:56:18.935 --> 02:56:20.169
REDUCTION. I WORKED WITH MAXINE
02:56:20.236 --> 02:56:22.238
WATERS IN THE 19 NINETIES. TO
02:56:22.305 --> 02:56:23.706
ADVOCATE FOR NEEDLE EXCHANGE. I
02:56:23.773 --> 02:56:24.974
SUPPORT SUPERVISED DRUG
02:56:25.041 --> 02:56:26.542
CONSUMPTION SITES AS THEY ARE
02:56:26.609 --> 02:56:27.910
OPERATED IN THE NETHERLANDS.
02:56:27.977 --> 02:56:29.378
WHAT'S HAPPENING IN SAN
02:56:29.445 --> 02:56:30.179
FRANCISCO IS CHAOS. THE OPEN
02:56:30.246 --> 02:56:33.983
DRUG SCENE HAS SPREAD. SINCE
02:56:34.050 --> 02:56:35.384
THEY OPENED THE SUPERVISED DRUG
02:56:35.451 --> 02:56:37.386
CONSUMPTION SITE IN JANUARY
02:56:37.453 --> 02:56:39.555
SEVEN MINUTES INTO A WALK I TOOK
02:56:39.622 --> 02:56:40.656
EARLIER THIS MONTH EARLIER LAST
02:56:40.723 --> 02:56:43.392
MONTH. WITH THE JOURNALIST FROM
02:56:43.459 --> 02:56:44.894
THE TIMES OF LONDON. WE FOUND
02:56:44.961 --> 02:56:46.696
SOMEBODY OVERDOSING ON DRUGS ON
02:56:46.762 --> 02:56:49.899
LASKY AVENUE ON AT LASKY ALLEY.
02:56:49.966 --> 02:56:52.335
THE DRUG SCENE HAS SPREAD THE
02:56:52.401 --> 02:56:54.003
OPEN AIR DRUG MARKETS HAVE
02:56:54.070 --> 02:56:55.471
SPREAD. IT'S NOT JUST IN THE
02:56:55.538 --> 02:56:57.173
TENDERLOIN. IT'S ALSO SOUTH OF
02:56:57.239 --> 02:56:58.374
MARKET CLAIMS. THEY'VE MADE THAT
02:56:58.441 --> 02:56:59.108
THERE ARE NO DEATHS FROM
02:56:59.175 --> 02:57:00.476
OVERDOSES IN SUPERVISED DRUG
02:57:00.543 --> 02:57:02.678
CONSUMPTION SITES IS FALSE. I
02:57:02.745 --> 02:57:04.246
HAVE SOURCES THAT SAY THAT THEY
02:57:04.313 --> 02:57:06.248
ACTUALLY DO HAVE DEATHS IN THOSE
02:57:06.315 --> 02:57:08.017
SITES, BUT THEY REPORT THEM AS
02:57:08.084 --> 02:57:09.251
OCCURRING IN THE AMBULANCE OR IN
02:57:09.318 --> 02:57:11.954
THE HOSPITALS. IF YOU GO TO
02:57:12.021 --> 02:57:13.022
PORTUGAL. IF YOU GO TO
02:57:13.089 --> 02:57:14.023
NETHERLANDS, YOU'LL DISCOVER
02:57:14.090 --> 02:57:16.525
THAT THE WAY THAT THEY TREAT
02:57:16.592 --> 02:57:17.293
ADDICTION OPEN AIR DRUG MARKETS
02:57:17.360 --> 02:57:19.528
IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN IT'S
02:57:19.595 --> 02:57:20.129
BEEN REPRESENTED. THEY DO NOT
02:57:20.196 --> 02:57:22.865
ALLOW OPEN AIR DRUG USE. THEY DO
02:57:22.932 --> 02:57:24.867
NOT ALLOW OPEN AIR DRUG DEALING.
02:57:24.934 --> 02:57:26.469
IN THE NETHERLANDS. THE
02:57:26.535 --> 02:57:27.770
SUPERVISED DRUG SITES MOVE
02:57:27.837 --> 02:57:29.638
ADDICTS INTO RECOVERY, ITS
02:57:29.705 --> 02:57:31.407
RECOVERY FOCUSED. WHAT THEY'RE
02:57:31.474 --> 02:57:32.641
PROPOSING IS ADDICTION
02:57:32.708 --> 02:57:34.343
MAINTENANCE. WE SHOULD QUESTION
02:57:34.410 --> 02:57:35.611
WHETHER WE WANT TO MAINTAIN
02:57:35.678 --> 02:57:38.381
ADDICTS AND THAT STATE YOU HEARD
02:57:38.447 --> 02:57:39.949
THE CYNICAL VIEW FROM THE CEO OF
02:57:40.016 --> 02:57:41.684
HEALTH, RIGHT? 3 60 THAT
02:57:41.751 --> 02:57:43.386
BASICALLY, MOST PEOPLE ARE JUST
02:57:43.452 --> 02:57:45.021
RESIGNED TO ADDICTION. I DON'T
02:57:45.087 --> 02:57:46.222
THINK THAT'S HUMANE. I THINK
02:57:46.288 --> 02:57:47.923
THAT WE NEED TO EMBRACE
02:57:47.990 --> 02:57:49.258
ADDICTION RECOVERY. MILLIONS OF
02:57:49.325 --> 02:57:50.259
PEOPLE RECOVER FROM THEIR
02:57:50.326 --> 02:57:53.129
ADDICTIONS EVERY YEAR. WHERE ARE
02:57:53.195 --> 02:57:54.697
WE GIVING UP ON OUR FRIENDS AND
02:57:54.764 --> 02:57:56.265
FAMILY. THERE'S MORE THAN ONE
02:57:56.332 --> 02:57:59.402
WAY TO PREVENT OVERDOSES. ONE OF
02:57:59.468 --> 02:58:01.170
THEM IS SIMPLY TO REVIVE PEOPLE
02:58:01.237 --> 02:58:02.671
PUT THEM IN TOUGH SHEDS, MONITOR
02:58:02.738 --> 02:58:04.206
THEM EVERY COUPLE OF HOURS.
02:58:04.273 --> 02:58:05.741
THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING IN LOS
02:58:05.808 --> 02:58:07.510
ANGELES THAT APPEARS TO BE THE
02:58:07.576 --> 02:58:09.045
VISION HERE. WE SAW THAT MOVIE.
02:58:09.111 --> 02:58:10.880
IT'S THE MATRIX. IT'S DYSTOPIAN
02:58:10.946 --> 02:58:12.882
. IT'S DISTURBING. IT'S NOT WHAT
02:58:12.948 --> 02:58:14.583
THEY DO IN PORTUGAL AND
02:58:14.650 --> 02:58:15.184
NETHERLANDS SUPERVISED DRUG
02:58:15.251 --> 02:58:15.985
CONSUMPTION SITES INCREASED IN
02:58:16.052 --> 02:58:18.888
BRITISH COLUMBIA. OVERDOSES
02:58:18.954 --> 02:58:20.923
INCREASED IN BRITISH COLUMBIA,
02:58:20.990 --> 02:58:22.058
THE IDEA THAT THESE SITES ARE
02:58:22.124 --> 02:58:24.160
SOMEHOW A PANACEA TO THE DRUG
02:58:24.226 --> 02:58:25.661
ADDICTION CRISIS THAT WE FACE IS
02:58:25.728 --> 02:58:27.730
ABSOLUTELY FALSE. THERE WAS
02:58:27.797 --> 02:58:29.799
THERE IS NO DRUG OVERDOSE AND
02:58:29.865 --> 02:58:31.367
POISONING CRISIS IN EUROPE. WHEN
02:58:31.434 --> 02:58:32.668
I STOPPED DOING DRUG
02:58:32.735 --> 02:58:33.869
DECRIMINALIZATION WORK IN THE
02:58:33.936 --> 02:58:35.771
YEAR 2000 THERE WERE 17,000 DRUG
02:58:35.838 --> 02:58:38.107
OVERDOSES A YEAR THERE'S 100 AND
02:58:38.174 --> 02:58:41.043
6000 DRUG OVERDOSES. THIS YEAR
02:58:41.110 --> 02:58:42.445
IT OCCURRED DURING A PERIOD OF
02:58:42.511 --> 02:58:45.314
LIBERALIZING DRUG LAWS. OF
02:58:45.381 --> 02:58:46.348
REDUCING PENALTIES FOR DRUG
02:58:46.415 --> 02:58:49.852
DEALING. SAN FRANCISCO IS A
02:58:49.919 --> 02:58:52.755
NATIONAL SHAME IT IS ALLOWING
02:58:52.822 --> 02:58:55.791
PEOPLE TO DIE ON THE STREETS,
02:58:55.858 --> 02:58:58.561
NEARLY 100% OF THE WOMEN THAT I
02:58:58.627 --> 02:58:59.862
INTERVIEW THAT LIVE IN THE
02:58:59.929 --> 02:59:00.963
OPENER, DRUG SCENES HAVE BEEN
02:59:01.030 --> 02:59:02.965
SEXUALLY ASSAULTED. MOST MORE
02:59:03.032 --> 02:59:05.000
THAN ONCE. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
02:59:05.067 --> 02:59:06.402
THE HARDEST, MOST INTOXICATING,
02:59:06.469 --> 02:59:08.170
MOST DANGEROUS AND DEADLY DRUGS
02:59:08.237 --> 02:59:09.638
THAT HAVE BEEN AVAILABLE
02:59:09.705 --> 02:59:10.473
METHAMPHETAMINE FENTANYL, THESE
02:59:10.539 --> 02:59:13.709
DRUGS ARE DEADLY. AND THERE
02:59:13.776 --> 02:59:15.111
NEEDS TO BE A COMPREHENSIVE
02:59:15.177 --> 02:59:18.647
RECOVERY BASED AGENDA TO GET OUR
02:59:18.714 --> 02:59:20.282
FELLOW CITIZENS THE HELP THAT
02:59:20.349 --> 02:59:21.717
THEY NEED NOT MAINTAIN THEIR
02:59:21.784 --> 02:59:23.052
DEADLY ADDICTIONS. THANK YOU
02:59:23.119 --> 02:59:25.287
VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER
02:59:25.354 --> 02:59:26.455
WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION IN THE
02:59:26.522 --> 02:59:36.999
ROOM. GOOD MORNING, JOHN LOVELL
02:59:37.066 --> 02:59:40.202
, UM IN OPPOSITION ON BEHALF OF
02:59:40.269 --> 02:59:43.038
THE CALIFORNIA NARCOTIC OFFICERS
02:59:43.105 --> 02:59:44.907
ASSOCIATION, THE CALIFORNIA
02:59:44.974 --> 02:59:45.908
ASSOCIATION OF CODE ENFORCEMENT
02:59:45.975 --> 02:59:49.645
OFFICERS THE CALIFORNIA COLLEGE
02:59:49.712 --> 02:59:52.014
AND UNIVERSITY POLICE CHIEFS
02:59:52.081 --> 02:59:55.651
ASSOCIATION. UM UM SID DARIA
02:59:55.718 --> 02:59:57.653
CHRIS FELD, WHO IS THE CO
02:59:57.720 --> 03:00:00.156
FOUNDER. OF THE GREATER HARLEM
03:00:00.222 --> 03:00:03.125
COALITION OF ITS SERIOUS
03:00:03.192 --> 03:00:06.162
CONCERNS ABOUT THE LOCATIONAL
03:00:06.228 --> 03:00:07.663
DECISIONS DRUG PREVENTION
03:00:07.730 --> 03:00:12.101
ORGANIZATION OF CANADA. UM SOLID
03:00:12.168 --> 03:00:15.371
RECORD OF A DISTURBING RECORD OF
03:00:15.437 --> 03:00:16.872
DRUGGED OVERDOSE OVERDOSE
03:00:16.939 --> 03:00:19.875
INCREASES, UH, CALIFORNIA PEACE
03:00:19.942 --> 03:00:21.043
FOUNDATION, VARIOUS STEVENS
03:00:21.110 --> 03:00:24.647
ORGANIZATION AGAIN. SERIOUS
03:00:24.713 --> 03:00:28.317
CONCERNS ABOUT THE, UM RACISM OF
03:00:28.384 --> 03:00:31.587
LOCATIONAL DECISIONS. UM UH,
03:00:31.654 --> 03:00:33.322
CONGRESS OF RACIAL EQUALITY,
03:00:33.389 --> 03:00:33.856
INTERNATIONAL FAITH BASED
03:00:33.923 --> 03:00:38.360
COALITION. AND THE ORGANIZATION
03:00:38.427 --> 03:00:39.395
FOR JUSTICE AND EQUALITY, ALL IN
03:00:39.461 --> 03:00:52.541
OPPOSITION. THANK YOU.
03:00:52.608 --> 03:00:53.375
GOOD MORNING CHAIR COMMITTEE,
03:00:53.442 --> 03:00:55.244
JULIO DELEON FOR THE RIVERSIDE
03:00:55.311 --> 03:00:56.245
COUNTY SHERIFF'S PERMANENT IN
03:00:56.312 --> 03:00:58.514
OPPOSITION. THANK YOU. PRETTY
03:00:58.581 --> 03:00:59.515
ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN THE
03:00:59.582 --> 03:01:01.750
HEARING ROOM AND OPPOSITION.
03:01:01.817 --> 03:01:03.152
WILL NOW GO TO THE TELEPHONE
03:01:03.219 --> 03:01:04.920
LINES, WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION
03:01:04.987 --> 03:01:07.656
18 OPERATORS CAN OPEN UP UNLESS
03:01:07.723 --> 03:01:12.127
P 57 OPPOSITION. THANK YOU LINE
03:01:12.194 --> 03:01:16.632
104. PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD
03:01:16.699 --> 03:01:18.701
MORNING, MR CHAIR AND MEMBERS.
03:01:18.767 --> 03:01:20.236
RUSSIA MATURE ON BEHALF OF THE
03:01:20.302 --> 03:01:21.036
CALIFORNIA STATE
03:01:21.103 --> 03:01:23.639
SHERIFFSASSOCIATION RESPECTFULLY
03:01:23.706 --> 03:01:28.777
OPPOSED. SB 57. THANK YOU. THANK
03:01:28.844 --> 03:01:30.546
YOU LINE 100. ONE. PLEASE GO
03:01:30.613 --> 03:01:36.252
AHEAD. MR CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS
03:01:36.318 --> 03:01:37.453
GRANDI PERRY THERE AND READING
03:01:37.519 --> 03:01:39.355
ASSOCIATES ON BEHALF OF THE SAN
03:01:39.421 --> 03:01:40.289
FRANCISCO POLICE OFFICERS
03:01:40.356 --> 03:01:43.125
ASSOCIATION. THE OAKLAND POLICE
03:01:43.192 --> 03:01:44.159
OFFICERS ASSOCIATION AND PORK IN
03:01:44.226 --> 03:01:49.531
OPPOSITION. LINE. 109, PLEASE GO
03:01:49.598 --> 03:01:54.436
AHEAD. GOOD MORNING CHAIR AND
03:01:54.503 --> 03:01:56.105
MEMBERS FACE BORDERS ON BEHALF
03:01:56.171 --> 03:01:57.339
OF THE CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATIONS
03:01:57.406 --> 03:01:58.607
OF CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS
03:01:58.674 --> 03:02:02.444
RESPECTFULLY. FLYING 34, PLEASE
03:02:02.511 --> 03:02:08.150
GO AHEAD. IT'S MORE MR BRIAN
03:02:08.217 --> 03:02:09.385
SHERMAN WITH THE RIVERSIDE
03:02:09.451 --> 03:02:10.919
SHERIFFSASSOCIATION OPPOSITION.
03:02:10.986 --> 03:02:12.488
ALSO THE POLICE OFFICER
03:02:12.554 --> 03:02:13.822
ASSOCIATIONS OF CLAREMONT
03:02:13.889 --> 03:02:17.126
CORONA, COME ON PALACE THIRTIES.
03:02:17.192 --> 03:02:20.029
IMPORT BEACH, UPLAND SANTA ANA,
03:02:20.095 --> 03:02:21.830
BURBANK, ENGLEWOOD, ARCADIA,
03:02:21.897 --> 03:02:24.867
RIVERSIDE BULLETIN. COVER CITY
03:02:24.933 --> 03:02:30.239
ON OPPOSITION. THANK YOU. LINE
03:02:30.306 --> 03:02:33.676
119, PLEASE GO AHEAD. JEANETTE
03:02:33.742 --> 03:02:35.978
FELT REMEMBER. I OPPOSE. THANK
03:02:36.045 --> 03:02:44.286
YOU. MR CHAIR. THERE'S NO ONE
03:02:44.353 --> 03:02:47.289
ELSE IN OPPOSITION TO 3 57.
03:02:47.356 --> 03:02:48.891
THANK YOU. WE'LL BRING IT BACK
03:02:48.957 --> 03:02:49.992
TO COMMITTEE QUESTIONS, MR
03:02:50.059 --> 03:02:52.895
BRYANT. YEAH WELL, FIRST, IT'S
03:02:52.961 --> 03:02:55.030
GOOD TO HEAR ALL OF THE
03:02:55.097 --> 03:02:55.898
MUNICIPALITIES AND OPPOSITION
03:02:55.964 --> 03:02:57.766
THAT ARE NOT ELIGIBLE TO OPT
03:02:57.833 --> 03:02:59.702
INTO THIS BILL. I THINK THE
03:02:59.768 --> 03:03:00.869
RESEARCH ON SAFE CONSUMPTION
03:03:00.936 --> 03:03:04.373
SITES IS OVERWHELMINGLY POSITIVE
03:03:04.440 --> 03:03:06.608
, BUT TO THE EXTENT THAT ANY OF
03:03:06.675 --> 03:03:07.710
THE SPURIOUS RELATIONSHIPS THAT
03:03:07.776 --> 03:03:08.911
HAVE BEEN ARTICULATED TODAY DO
03:03:08.977 --> 03:03:10.846
ACTUALLY EXIST AND A SERIOUS,
03:03:10.913 --> 03:03:12.047
MEASURABLE WAY. I'M ENCOURAGED
03:03:12.114 --> 03:03:14.149
BY THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE A
03:03:14.216 --> 03:03:16.385
STUDY OF THE TWO SIDES SHOULD
03:03:16.452 --> 03:03:18.487
THEY CHOOSE TO OPT IN AGAIN, AS
03:03:18.554 --> 03:03:19.555
WAS MENTIONED BY THE AUTHOR.
03:03:19.621 --> 03:03:21.290
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS
03:03:21.357 --> 03:03:22.891
DOES NOT COMPEL ANYBODY TO OPT
03:03:22.958 --> 03:03:25.327
IN TO SUCH SITES. I THINK IT'S
03:03:25.394 --> 03:03:26.362
WELL CRAFTED LANGUAGE. BUT IF
03:03:26.428 --> 03:03:28.364
YOU COULD CLARIFY THAT AGAIN FOR
03:03:28.430 --> 03:03:29.865
US, THIS IS SIMPLY OPTIONAL FOR
03:03:29.932 --> 03:03:31.300
THE CITIES AND COUNTIES, MOST OF
03:03:31.367 --> 03:03:32.835
WHICH CAME TODAY WITH THEIR
03:03:32.901 --> 03:03:35.270
SUPPORT. IS THAT CORRECT? EXCUSE
03:03:35.337 --> 03:03:37.239
ME, THAT'S CORRECT. EACH OF THE
03:03:37.306 --> 03:03:38.273
INCLUDED PILOT CITIES HAS
03:03:38.340 --> 03:03:41.243
REQUESTED TO BE INCLUDED. BUT
03:03:41.310 --> 03:03:43.078
EVEN EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE
03:03:43.145 --> 03:03:44.480
INCLUDED, THEY CAN. THEY WILL
03:03:44.546 --> 03:03:46.648
DECIDE WHETHER TOPPED IN WHETHER
03:03:46.715 --> 03:03:48.851
OR NOT TO OPT IN, AND THEY WILL
03:03:48.917 --> 03:03:51.220
DECIDE EXACTLY HELP. TO
03:03:51.286 --> 03:03:52.654
IMPLEMENT WHAT WHETHER TO HAVE
03:03:52.721 --> 03:03:55.424
ONE SITE OR MORE THAN ONE SITE.
03:03:55.491 --> 03:03:56.992
IT'S REALLY A LOT OF LOCAL
03:03:57.059 --> 03:03:59.661
DECISION MAKING ABOUT HOW TO DO
03:03:59.728 --> 03:04:01.764
THAT. AND IT IS A PILOT PROGRAM.
03:04:01.830 --> 03:04:03.632
IT WILL HAVE TO COME BACK FOR
03:04:03.699 --> 03:04:04.400
REAUTHORIZATION OR NOT
03:04:04.466 --> 03:04:05.701
REAUTHORIZATION BY THE
03:04:05.768 --> 03:04:08.070
LEGISLATURE AND THE AMENDMENT.
03:04:08.137 --> 03:04:09.037
ONE AMENDMENT WE TOOK IN
03:04:09.104 --> 03:04:10.205
ASSEMBLY HEALTH REQUIRES A
03:04:10.272 --> 03:04:12.241
PARTICIPATING CITIES TO FUND A
03:04:12.307 --> 03:04:15.544
PERIOD VIEWED STUDY. ABOUT THE
03:04:15.611 --> 03:04:16.578
EFFECTIVENESS OF THE OF THE
03:04:16.645 --> 03:04:23.719
PROGRAM. YES MISS PANTER, I WE
03:04:23.786 --> 03:04:25.254
HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT
03:04:25.320 --> 03:04:27.689
THIS. AND I THANK YOU FOR ASKING
03:04:27.756 --> 03:04:29.024
ME TO CO AUTHOR THIS BILL, WHICH
03:04:29.091 --> 03:04:32.194
I HAVE. I JUST WANT TO ONE
03:04:32.261 --> 03:04:34.163
ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE OAKLAND
03:04:34.229 --> 03:04:35.731
CITY COUNCIL, WHICH IS ONE OF
03:04:35.798 --> 03:04:36.865
THE POTENTIAL PILOT SITES FOR
03:04:36.932 --> 03:04:40.102
THIS UNION OBVIOUSLY VOTED TO
03:04:40.169 --> 03:04:42.404
MOVE FORWARD WITH PARTICIPATION
03:04:42.471 --> 03:04:43.906
POTENTIAL PARTICIPATION IN THIS
03:04:43.972 --> 03:04:46.208
PILOT STUDY AN INCREDIBLY
03:04:46.275 --> 03:04:47.142
DIVERSE CITY COUNCIL AS A
03:04:47.209 --> 03:04:51.513
STANDS. AND THIS HAS BEEN AFTER
03:04:51.580 --> 03:04:52.381
YEARS OF CONVERSATION,
03:04:52.448 --> 03:04:54.516
NEGOTIATION AND ADVOCACY TO BE
03:04:54.583 --> 03:04:57.553
ABLE TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE AN
03:04:57.619 --> 03:04:58.053
ADDITIONAL COMPONENT TO
03:04:58.120 --> 03:05:03.091
PROVIDING A ROBUST A APPROACH TO
03:05:03.158 --> 03:05:05.160
DRUG USE AND ABUSE AND SUBSTANCE
03:05:05.227 --> 03:05:07.563
ABUSE AND ADDRESSING OVERDOSE
03:05:07.629 --> 03:05:09.798
PREVENTION AS WELL. SO I WANT TO
03:05:09.865 --> 03:05:11.066
THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING FROM MY
03:05:11.133 --> 03:05:12.167
UNDERSTANDING. AND I WOULD LIKE
03:05:12.234 --> 03:05:17.005
YOU TO ADDRESS THIS. UM. JUST
03:05:17.072 --> 03:05:19.374
ANOTHER ONE OTHER POTENTIAL
03:05:19.441 --> 03:05:21.143
OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO BE ABLE TO
03:05:21.210 --> 03:05:24.780
ADDRESS THE PANDEMIC THAT WE ARE
03:05:24.847 --> 03:05:26.682
FACING AROUND DRUG ABUSE. AND,
03:05:26.748 --> 03:05:30.319
UM AND I APPRECIATE THAT. WE ARE
03:05:30.385 --> 03:05:32.221
DOING THAT IN OAKLAND, WHERE WE
03:05:32.287 --> 03:05:35.891
HAVE, UM, A VERY DIVERSE
03:05:35.958 --> 03:05:37.059
COMMUNITY THAT WE WANT TO MAKE
03:05:37.125 --> 03:05:39.261
SURE IS IMPACTED AND TAKING CARE
03:05:39.328 --> 03:05:45.701
OF THE BILL. BUT TO MOVE THE
03:05:45.767 --> 03:05:50.339
BILL, DID I APOLOGIZE? ANY MORE
03:05:50.405 --> 03:06:00.349
QUESTIONS, MR SARTO. QUÊ SO. ONE
03:06:00.415 --> 03:06:02.384
OF THE CONCERNS I HAVE. IS IT
03:06:02.451 --> 03:06:04.753
AREA YOU ENVISIONING THIS TO BE
03:06:04.820 --> 03:06:07.089
SPONSORED BY PUBLIC AGENCIES, UM
03:06:07.155 --> 03:06:10.125
, ASSISTED WITH PUBLIC DOLLARS.
03:06:10.192 --> 03:06:12.261
IT CERTAINLY CAN BE, AND THEY
03:06:12.327 --> 03:06:13.795
THE LOCAL COMMUNITIES WILL HAVE
03:06:13.862 --> 03:06:15.497
FLEXIBILITY THERE, BUT IT IT CAN
03:06:15.564 --> 03:06:19.635
BE. OKAY. AND SO HOW DO WE
03:06:19.701 --> 03:06:22.304
PROTECT LOCAL AGENCIES AND OUR
03:06:22.371 --> 03:06:23.906
TAXPAYER DOLLARS FROM LIABILITY
03:06:23.972 --> 03:06:28.677
WHEN THINGS GO WRONG. SO I
03:06:28.744 --> 03:06:31.647
APOLOGIZE FOR MY VOICE, UM SO
03:06:31.713 --> 03:06:34.016
CITIES AND COUNTIES MAKE
03:06:34.082 --> 03:06:35.083
DECISIONS AROUND RISK AND
03:06:35.150 --> 03:06:38.754
LIABILITY ALL THE TIME. AND
03:06:38.820 --> 03:06:40.355
CREATING NEW PROGRAMS AND
03:06:40.422 --> 03:06:42.424
CREATING NEW INFRASTRUCTURE,
03:06:42.491 --> 03:06:45.394
CREATING A NEW PLAYGROUND. THERE
03:06:45.460 --> 03:06:47.396
THERE ARE A MILLION TIMES A DAY
03:06:47.462 --> 03:06:49.498
WHEN CITIES MAKE THE SITTING ON
03:06:49.565 --> 03:06:50.632
THAT'S EXAGGERATION MANY TIMES
03:06:50.699 --> 03:06:52.901
UM THEY WHEN CITIES ARE MAKING
03:06:52.968 --> 03:06:54.036
DECISIONS IN CITY COUNCILS AND
03:06:54.102 --> 03:06:55.003
MAYORS AND TOWARDS THE
03:06:55.070 --> 03:06:56.138
SUPERVISORS ABOUT DOING NEW
03:06:56.204 --> 03:06:57.906
THINGS. EFFECT. THEY COULD GET
03:06:57.973 --> 03:07:03.111
SUED. BUT THEY MAKE A DECISION
03:07:03.178 --> 03:07:04.713
REASONED DECISION THAT THEY
03:07:04.780 --> 03:07:06.748
THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE AND
03:07:06.815 --> 03:07:08.283
THEY'LL DO SO HERE, AND THAT'S
03:07:08.350 --> 03:07:10.185
WHY WE'RE NOT FORCING THEM TO DO
03:07:10.252 --> 03:07:11.653
IT. THIS WILL BE THEIR DECISION.
03:07:11.720 --> 03:07:13.488
THEIR DECISION LOCALLY SO THEY
03:07:13.555 --> 03:07:15.390
CAN ACCEPT THE LIABILITY FOR
03:07:15.457 --> 03:07:18.660
THAT, IF THEY CHOOSE. OKAY UM,
03:07:18.727 --> 03:07:20.195
NEW YORK. YOU SAID NEW YORK HAS
03:07:20.262 --> 03:07:23.165
A PROGRAM. IT WAS OPEN. UM A
03:07:23.231 --> 03:07:24.266
NUMBER OF MONTHS AGO. I CAN'T. I
03:07:24.333 --> 03:07:26.268
THINK MAYBE LATE LAST YEAR IF I
03:07:26.335 --> 03:07:28.003
RECALL, THEY BEEN ABLE TO DO
03:07:28.070 --> 03:07:29.404
STUDIES ON HOW MANY PEOPLE
03:07:29.471 --> 03:07:30.839
ACCESS TO PROGRAM AND THEN ARE
03:07:30.906 --> 03:07:33.709
DIVERTED INTO TREATMENT. YES I
03:07:33.775 --> 03:07:35.444
MEAN, IT'S STILL IN ITS EARLY
03:07:35.510 --> 03:07:37.312
STAGES, BUT THEY DO HAVE SOME
03:07:37.379 --> 03:07:38.380
PRELIMINARY DATA, WHICH SOME OF
03:07:38.447 --> 03:07:40.949
IT WAS REFERENCED. EARLIER IN
03:07:41.016 --> 03:07:42.884
TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF OVERDOSE
03:07:42.951 --> 03:07:46.588
REVERSALS. UM AND SO, YES,
03:07:46.655 --> 03:07:47.189
THERE'S PRELIMINARY DATA, BUT
03:07:47.255 --> 03:07:49.625
AGAIN, IT'S NOT BEEN AN
03:07:49.691 --> 03:07:51.893
OPERATION AS LONG AS SOME OF THE
03:07:51.960 --> 03:07:53.729
ONES THAT OTHER COUNTRIES
03:07:53.795 --> 03:07:54.796
OVERDOSE. I'M TALKING ABOUT THE
03:07:54.863 --> 03:07:56.098
OVERDOSE. I'M TALKING ABOUT. I'M
03:07:56.164 --> 03:07:57.633
TALKING ABOUT THEM BEING
03:07:57.699 --> 03:07:58.734
DIVERTED INTO TREATMENT PROGRAMS
03:07:58.800 --> 03:08:02.638
AFTER THEY'VE USED UM, THEY HAVE
03:08:02.704 --> 03:08:04.373
PRELIMINARY DATA AS I UNDERSTAND
03:08:04.439 --> 03:08:06.008
IT, BUT THE MORE COMPREHENSIVE
03:08:06.074 --> 03:08:07.409
DATA THAT WE HAVE ARE THE ONES
03:08:07.476 --> 03:08:09.011
THAT HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR YEARS
03:08:09.077 --> 03:08:10.445
OR DECADES, AND THEY'RE TALKING
03:08:10.512 --> 03:08:11.713
ABOUT THE REVERSAL OF OVERDOSE,
03:08:11.780 --> 03:08:13.382
AMONG OTHER THINGS, AND TREAT
03:08:13.448 --> 03:08:15.183
AND ENTRY IN THE TREATMENT IS
03:08:15.250 --> 03:08:17.519
ALSO DATA THAT GETS COLLECTED.
03:08:17.586 --> 03:08:19.521
IN ADDITION TO THERE'S BEEN
03:08:19.588 --> 03:08:21.857
STUDIES AROUND, UM, WHETHER
03:08:21.923 --> 03:08:23.158
SYRINGE LETTER IN THE
03:08:23.225 --> 03:08:25.060
SURROUNDING AREA IS REDUCED
03:08:25.127 --> 03:08:26.762
AROUND INFECTIONS FOR HIV,
03:08:26.828 --> 03:08:31.667
HEPATITIS AND SO FORTH. THE UM,
03:08:31.733 --> 03:08:33.602
STATISTIC THAT I HEARD FROM THE
03:08:33.669 --> 03:08:36.905
WITNESSES 0.17 GET DIVERTED. UM
03:08:36.972 --> 03:08:38.106
THAT ROSE SEVEN. MR. CHAIRMAN
03:08:38.173 --> 03:08:40.509
ARE WE STILL HAVE A COMMENT OR
03:08:40.575 --> 03:08:45.881
SO. YEAH SO THE THAT THAT WAS
03:08:45.947 --> 03:08:47.649
THAT WAS A STATEMENT BY MR
03:08:47.716 --> 03:08:48.884
SHELLENBERGER AROUND THE SAN
03:08:48.950 --> 03:08:50.752
FRANCISCO LINKAGE CENTER, WHICH
03:08:50.819 --> 03:08:52.087
HE CHARACTERIZES AS A SAFE
03:08:52.154 --> 03:08:54.890
CONSUMPTION SITE. UM, AND THAT
03:08:54.956 --> 03:08:57.426
THAT IS THAT WAS THAT MY COMMENT
03:08:57.492 --> 03:08:58.960
WAS NOT ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING
03:08:59.027 --> 03:09:03.265
IN AMSTERDAM OR AND CANADA. SO.
03:09:03.331 --> 03:09:05.934
F OKAY, MAKE SURE THINGS ARE
03:09:06.001 --> 03:09:07.135
THROUGH THE CHAIR SO IT DOESN'T
03:09:07.202 --> 03:09:09.204
BECOME SO GO AHEAD. ASK YOUR
03:09:09.271 --> 03:09:10.172
QUESTION, AND THEN YOU'LL
03:09:10.238 --> 03:09:12.274
ANSWER, OKAY? UM AFTER THEIR
03:09:12.340 --> 03:09:16.678
CARE, AND AFTER THEY'RE THEY'RE
03:09:16.745 --> 03:09:19.147
DONE DOING THEIR SHOOTING UP OR
03:09:19.214 --> 03:09:20.282
OR CONSUMPTION OF WHATEVER IT IS
03:09:20.348 --> 03:09:21.917
THAT THEY'RE ADDICTED TO. WHAT
03:09:21.983 --> 03:09:27.389
HAPPENS THEN? SO IS THERE A IS
03:09:27.456 --> 03:09:28.290
THERE? I'M SORRY. LET ME FINISH
03:09:28.356 --> 03:09:30.525
. IS THERE AN AFTERCARE PROGRAM
03:09:30.592 --> 03:09:32.527
OR DO THEY JUST ARE THEY FREE TO
03:09:32.594 --> 03:09:33.795
WALK OUT? AND CONTINUE THE DAY.
03:09:33.862 --> 03:09:36.364
YES. SO JUST TO BE REALLY CLEAR.
03:09:36.431 --> 03:09:40.736
UM. THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE
03:09:40.802 --> 03:09:42.871
ALREADY USING DRUGS. AND THE
03:09:42.938 --> 03:09:44.039
QUESTION IS, WHERE ARE THEY
03:09:44.106 --> 03:09:47.008
GOING TO USE IT? THERE'S BEEN A
03:09:47.075 --> 03:09:48.577
LOT OF TRASHING OF THE
03:09:48.643 --> 03:09:50.145
TENDERLOIN AND HERE TODAY AND
03:09:50.212 --> 03:09:53.482
NATIONAL PRESS. TENDERLOIN WHICH
03:09:53.548 --> 03:09:55.484
HAS HAD MANY, MANY, MANY
03:09:55.550 --> 03:09:57.886
CHALLENGES FOR MANY, MANY, MANY
03:09:57.953 --> 03:10:02.324
YEARS IS A WONDERFUL, DIVERSE
03:10:02.390 --> 03:10:05.360
COMMUNITY. UH ANDI JUST I JUST
03:10:05.427 --> 03:10:07.095
WANT TO SORT OF SAY THAT BECAUSE
03:10:07.162 --> 03:10:08.296
THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF NOT JUST
03:10:08.363 --> 03:10:09.998
TODAY. BUT IN GENERAL TRASHING
03:10:10.065 --> 03:10:13.235
OF THE TENDERLOIN, AND I JUST
03:10:13.301 --> 03:10:15.003
WANNA SORT OF OBJECT TO THAT
03:10:15.070 --> 03:10:17.372
WITH ALL OF ITS CHALLENGES. BUT
03:10:17.439 --> 03:10:18.640
WHEN YOU WALK THROUGH WHETHER
03:10:18.707 --> 03:10:21.643
SKID ROW OR TENDERLOIN OR OR
03:10:21.710 --> 03:10:23.411
OTHER REALLY IMPACTED
03:10:23.478 --> 03:10:24.646
COMMUNITIES, THERE ARE PEOPLE
03:10:24.713 --> 03:10:26.515
ENGAGING IN OPEN DRUG USE THERE
03:10:26.581 --> 03:10:30.352
ON THE SIDEWALK. THERE ON THE
03:10:30.418 --> 03:10:32.254
SIDEWALK THERE IN THE PARK THERE
03:10:32.320 --> 03:10:33.321
BEHIND THE DUMPSTER THERE IN
03:10:33.388 --> 03:10:34.623
FRONT OF SOMEONE'S BUSINESS.
03:10:34.689 --> 03:10:41.329
THEY'RE USING THEIR AND SO THE-QUESTION IS DO WE WANT THEM TO
03:10:41.396 --> 03:10:43.231
USE THEIR WHICH IS NEITHER SAFE
03:10:43.298 --> 03:10:45.167
NOR HEALTHY FOR THEM OR FOR THE
03:10:45.233 --> 03:10:46.735
SURROUNDING COMMUNITY. WHAT DO
03:10:46.802 --> 03:10:48.303
YOU WANT THEM TO HAVE A PLACE TO
03:10:48.370 --> 03:10:50.205
GO INSIDE? SO THIS IS NOT A
03:10:50.272 --> 03:10:51.373
SITUATION WAS LIKE, OH, YOU'RE
03:10:51.439 --> 03:10:53.241
NOT USING DRUGS, AND WE PUT A
03:10:53.308 --> 03:10:54.442
SAFE CONSUMPTION SITE IN AND
03:10:54.509 --> 03:10:56.378
IT'S LIKE, WOW. NOW THERE'S A
03:10:56.444 --> 03:10:57.379
STATEMENT SOMETHING THAT I'M
03:10:57.445 --> 03:10:58.513
GOING TO START USING DRUGS.
03:10:58.580 --> 03:10:59.147
THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE ALREADY
03:10:59.214 --> 03:11:01.116
USING AND THEY'RE GOING TO USE
03:11:01.183 --> 03:11:02.350
IN A SAFER WAY THAT REDUCES
03:11:02.417 --> 03:11:05.987
RISK. THEY WILL BE THERE. THE
03:11:06.054 --> 03:11:09.124
SITES OFFER SERVICES OFFER
03:11:09.191 --> 03:11:12.127
ACCESS TO TREATMENT, AND THAT IS
03:11:12.194 --> 03:11:14.596
PART OF THE REASON THEY EXIST TO
03:11:14.663 --> 03:11:16.498
HELP PEOPLE WHO ARE READY TO GO
03:11:16.565 --> 03:11:18.400
INTO TREATMENT. TO ACCESS THAT
03:11:18.466 --> 03:11:19.634
TREATMENT. IT MAY NOT HAPPEN ON
03:11:19.701 --> 03:11:21.570
THE FIRST TIME IT MAY NOT HAPPEN
03:11:21.636 --> 03:11:23.038
ON THE 10TH TIME. BUT AT SOME
03:11:23.104 --> 03:11:24.272
POINT, NOT FOR EVERYONE, BUT FOR
03:11:24.339 --> 03:11:26.041
A LOT OF PEOPLE. THEY WILL
03:11:26.107 --> 03:11:27.142
DECIDE TO GO INTO TREATMENT. AND
03:11:27.209 --> 03:11:28.944
THESE THIS WILL PROVIDE A ROUTE
03:11:29.010 --> 03:11:33.582
TO GET THERE. SO. BOTTOM LINE IS
03:11:33.648 --> 03:11:35.116
AFTER THEY'RE DONE USING THEIR
03:11:35.183 --> 03:11:37.219
FREE TO GO, AND THEN THEY GO OUT
03:11:37.285 --> 03:11:38.720
INTO THE COMMUNITY. AND THIS IS
03:11:38.787 --> 03:11:40.388
WHERE TO MY COLLEAGUE'S POINT
03:11:40.455 --> 03:11:42.858
FROM LOS ANGELES IS EVEN THOUGH
03:11:42.924 --> 03:11:43.992
THESE ARE SPECIFIC TO LOS
03:11:44.059 --> 03:11:45.927
ANGELES AND OAKLAND RIGHT NOW.
03:11:45.994 --> 03:11:47.429
OR THESE OTHER CITIES WHO HAVE
03:11:47.495 --> 03:11:50.665
OPTED IN, UM I CAN HAVE VERY,
03:11:50.732 --> 03:11:52.734
VERY VALID CONCERNS ABOUT THE
03:11:52.801 --> 03:11:54.703
SAFETY OF MY FAMILY AND FRIENDS
03:11:54.769 --> 03:11:58.640
THAT LIVE IN L. A BECAUSE IF
03:11:58.707 --> 03:12:00.242
THOSE PERSONS LEAVE THAT
03:12:00.308 --> 03:12:02.310
FACILITY AND THEN GET INTO A
03:12:02.377 --> 03:12:04.312
VEHICLE, NOT ONLY ARE THE PUBLIC
03:12:04.379 --> 03:12:05.280
DOLLARS AT RISK BECAUSE A GOOD
03:12:05.347 --> 03:12:06.381
LAWYER AFTER THEY'VE RUN
03:12:06.448 --> 03:12:09.150
SOMEBODY DOWN WILL BE ABLE TO
03:12:09.217 --> 03:12:11.119
TAKE CARE OF THAT THEY WILL,
03:12:11.186 --> 03:12:12.220
THEY WILL HOLD THE PUBLIC AGENCY
03:12:12.287 --> 03:12:17.626
LIABLE FOR THAT. AND IS THAT IT?
03:12:17.692 --> 03:12:20.061
DATA THIS IS THE COMMENT PART.
03:12:20.128 --> 03:12:22.130
OKAY ALREADY, AND HE ANSWERED
03:12:22.197 --> 03:12:24.766
THE QUESTIONS. AND SO I WAS JUST
03:12:24.833 --> 03:12:25.400
COMMENTING ON THAT. AS FAR AS
03:12:25.467 --> 03:12:27.168
THE OVERDOSES ARE CONCERNED, YOU
03:12:27.235 --> 03:12:28.270
HAVE A HIGH PROPENSITY FOR
03:12:28.336 --> 03:12:31.439
OVERDOSE REVERSAL. IN THOSE AND
03:12:31.506 --> 03:12:33.275
THOSE THINGS BECAUSE MOST OF
03:12:33.341 --> 03:12:34.910
THOSE OVERDOSES ARE OPIATES, AND
03:12:34.976 --> 03:12:36.011
THEY'RE EASILY REVERSED BY A
03:12:36.077 --> 03:12:37.145
MEDICALLY TRAINED PERSON WITH
03:12:37.212 --> 03:12:40.782
NARCAN. AND SO, YES, IF THEY'RE
03:12:40.849 --> 03:12:42.584
SUPERVISED, AND THEY OVERDOSE ON
03:12:42.651 --> 03:12:45.186
OPIATES, AND IN THIS CASE, A LOT
03:12:45.253 --> 03:12:46.388
OF IT'S FENTANYL, NO MATTER WHAT
03:12:46.454 --> 03:12:49.157
THEY'RE TAKING. UM IT CAN BE
03:12:49.224 --> 03:12:50.358
REVERSED AND SO THAT THAT IS
03:12:50.425 --> 03:12:51.593
SOMETHING THAT'S A GOOD THING.
03:12:51.660 --> 03:12:55.897
UM BUT UNFORTUNATELY THESE FOLKS
03:12:55.964 --> 03:12:57.766
, IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY'RE GOING
03:12:57.832 --> 03:12:59.668
TO GO THERE EVERY SINGLE DAY AND
03:12:59.734 --> 03:13:01.636
USE THERE'LL BE SOME SOMETIMES
03:13:01.703 --> 03:13:03.171
THEY WON'T BE AVAILABLE THERE
03:13:03.238 --> 03:13:04.039
AND THEY'LL OVERDOSE ON THE
03:13:04.105 --> 03:13:05.373
STREET, AND THEY'LL BE
03:13:05.440 --> 03:13:06.541
COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, BECAUSE
03:13:06.608 --> 03:13:07.575
THEY THINK THEY'RE OKAY. AND
03:13:07.642 --> 03:13:09.144
THEY'RE GOING TO OVERDOSE OUT
03:13:09.210 --> 03:13:11.579
THERE, SO I JUST I HAVE A LOT OF
03:13:11.646 --> 03:13:13.415
PROBLEMS. WITH MOVING AH,
03:13:13.481 --> 03:13:15.517
CREATING AN ENABLING PROGRAM
03:13:15.583 --> 03:13:17.018
THAT ENABLES PEOPLE TO DO
03:13:17.085 --> 03:13:18.520
CONTINUE TO DO WHAT'S VERY
03:13:18.586 --> 03:13:20.021
DAMAGING AND DESTRUCTIVE NOT
03:13:20.088 --> 03:13:21.690
ONLY THEMSELVES, BUT TO THE
03:13:21.756 --> 03:13:23.191
PUBLIC AT LARGE. AND YES, I
03:13:23.258 --> 03:13:24.292
REALIZE THAT THEY'RE ALREADY
03:13:24.359 --> 03:13:26.261
DOING THAT. BUT I THINK THERE
03:13:26.328 --> 03:13:28.530
ARE OTHER THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO
03:13:28.596 --> 03:13:29.297
LOOK AT OTHER PROGRAMS THAT WE
03:13:29.364 --> 03:13:31.533
HAVE TO LOOKAT. THEY HAVE
03:13:31.599 --> 03:13:32.334
PROGRAMS THAT THEY CAN GET INTO
03:13:32.400 --> 03:13:33.368
AND THEY'RE NOT UTILIZING THEM.
03:13:33.435 --> 03:13:35.437
SO WE NEED A BETTER WAY TO STEER
03:13:35.503 --> 03:13:37.305
PEOPLE INTO PROGRAMS TO GET THEM
03:13:37.372 --> 03:13:39.074
OFF OF DRUGS. AND GET THEM OUT
03:13:39.140 --> 03:13:40.175
OF THIS DEPENDENCY, ESPECIALLY
03:13:40.241 --> 03:13:42.577
ON DARK HAIR ON ON FENTANYL
03:13:42.644 --> 03:13:43.745
BECAUSE THAT PROBLEM IS GOING TO
03:13:43.812 --> 03:13:46.014
GET WORSE BEFORE IT GETS BETTER.
03:13:46.081 --> 03:13:48.650
AND SO, YEAH, I REALLY STRUGGLE
03:13:48.717 --> 03:13:51.152
WITH THIS THIS TYPE OF BILL
03:13:51.219 --> 03:13:53.154
BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT'S
03:13:53.221 --> 03:13:54.322
HELPING. I THINK IT'S CREATING
03:13:54.389 --> 03:13:55.924
MORE LEGAL LIABILITY, AND IT'S
03:13:55.991 --> 03:13:58.760
CREATING MORE OF A SAFETY
03:13:58.827 --> 03:14:00.662
PROBLEMS FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T
03:14:00.729 --> 03:14:03.031
HAVE NOT JUST GOING ABOUT THEIR
03:14:03.098 --> 03:14:04.599
REGULAR DAY WALKING DOWN THE
03:14:04.666 --> 03:14:06.234
SIDEWALK GOING TO A MARKET AND
03:14:06.301 --> 03:14:11.272
GET RUN DOWN, SO. UH LOOK, I
03:14:11.339 --> 03:14:13.041
THINK THIS IS A HEALTHY DEBATE
03:14:13.108 --> 03:14:14.743
TO HAVE RIGHT. I MEAN, WHAT THIS
03:14:14.809 --> 03:14:16.678
REALLY IS. I'M NOT GONNA SIT
03:14:16.745 --> 03:14:17.746
HERE AND PRETEND THAT ON THE
03:14:17.812 --> 03:14:19.414
TECHNICAL EXPERT AH, ON THIS
03:14:19.481 --> 03:14:20.915
ISSUE, RIGHT? AND MAYBE MY
03:14:20.982 --> 03:14:24.486
COLLEAGUE IS, UM BUT WHAT WE'RE
03:14:24.552 --> 03:14:26.354
REALLY TALKING ABOUT HERE FOR
03:14:26.421 --> 03:14:27.522
BECAUSE SKID ROW HAS BEEN
03:14:27.589 --> 03:14:29.691
INVOKED HERE, SO WE'LL TALK A
03:14:29.758 --> 03:14:30.925
LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS IN
03:14:30.992 --> 03:14:32.260
THERE THAT LOOKS LIKE SKID ROW.
03:14:32.327 --> 03:14:33.395
DO PEOPLE HAVE SUBSTANCE ABUSE
03:14:33.461 --> 03:14:37.232
ISSUES? YES. THEY'RE GOING TO
03:14:37.298 --> 03:14:38.299
HAVE THEM WHETHER YOU HAVE THIS
03:14:38.366 --> 03:14:40.935
BILL, WHETHER YOU TAKE AWAY THIS
03:14:41.002 --> 03:14:41.870
BILL, THIS CONCEPT EXISTS OR
03:14:41.936 --> 03:14:44.072
NOT. IT IS A FACT RIGHT NOW THAT
03:14:44.139 --> 03:14:46.508
IF YOU WALK INTO A IF YOU WALK
03:14:46.574 --> 03:14:48.510
DOWN SKID, BRO. IF YOU WALK DOWN
03:14:48.576 --> 03:14:49.611
THE SKID ROW IN YOUR
03:14:49.677 --> 03:14:51.046
NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT THERE MIGHT
03:14:51.112 --> 03:14:54.816
BE PEOPLE USING I'M WORKING ON
03:14:54.883 --> 03:14:57.218
THE STREET. I'VE SEEN PEOPLE
03:14:57.285 --> 03:15:00.355
WITH NEEDLES IN THEIR ARMS. I'VE
03:15:00.422 --> 03:15:02.524
SEEN PEOPLE USE PUT THE NEEDLE
03:15:02.590 --> 03:15:03.958
WHERE YOU SEE HIM IN ALL SORTS
03:15:04.025 --> 03:15:05.860
OF FROM THE BEGINNING TO THE END
03:15:05.927 --> 03:15:07.695
IT SELLS. IT'S HAPPENING. IT'S A
03:15:07.762 --> 03:15:09.297
CRISIS. THE QUESTION BEFORE US
03:15:09.364 --> 03:15:11.032
ISN'T JUST GONNA ENABLE. OF
03:15:11.099 --> 03:15:12.200
COURSE, THIS IS NOT GOING TO
03:15:12.267 --> 03:15:15.703
ENABLE. IT'S HAPPENING. IT'S NOT
03:15:15.770 --> 03:15:17.205
AN ENABLING ANY. THAT'S THE
03:15:17.272 --> 03:15:18.706
WRONG SIDE OF THAT. THAT'S THE
03:15:18.773 --> 03:15:20.241
WRONG APPROACH. THE WRONG WAY TO
03:15:20.308 --> 03:15:22.811
TAKE A LOOK AT THIS. ARE THERE
03:15:22.877 --> 03:15:23.945
BETTER PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE TO
03:15:24.012 --> 03:15:24.946
BUILD? OF COURSE WE DO. IS IT
03:15:25.013 --> 03:15:26.247
ARE SOME OF THE PROGRAMS THAT
03:15:26.314 --> 03:15:28.283
EXIST TODAY. COULD THEY BE
03:15:28.349 --> 03:15:29.417
BETTER? YES ARE SOME FEELING
03:15:29.484 --> 03:15:31.653
ABSOLUTELY WHAT THIS IS REALLY
03:15:31.719 --> 03:15:36.391
ABOUT. IT IS TRYING TO PREVENT
03:15:36.458 --> 03:15:38.460
THE WORST FROM HAPPENING. CAN A
03:15:38.526 --> 03:15:40.428
PERSON GET UP AND WALK OUT AFTER
03:15:40.495 --> 03:15:43.064
THEY USED IN A IN A IN ONE OF
03:15:43.131 --> 03:15:44.199
THESE FACILITIES. OF COURSE THEY
03:15:44.265 --> 03:15:46.968
CAN. ARE THEY USING TODAY AND
03:15:47.035 --> 03:15:48.069
WALKING AROUND? OF COURSE THEY
03:15:48.136 --> 03:15:51.739
ARE. ONCE SOMEBODY GOES USERS
03:15:51.806 --> 03:15:53.541
SOMETHING AND LOOK, I STRUGGLED
03:15:53.608 --> 03:15:55.110
WITH THIS THE FIRST TIME THIS
03:15:55.176 --> 03:15:56.177
CONCEPT WAS INTRODUCED TO ME
03:15:56.244 --> 03:15:58.313
TALK TO THE AUTHOR AND FELT
03:15:58.379 --> 03:16:01.149
UNCOMFORTABLE. IT WAS NEW. I
03:16:01.216 --> 03:16:02.817
SPENT A LOT OF SOUL SEARCHING
03:16:02.884 --> 03:16:04.652
THE FIRST TIME, THE THAT THIS
03:16:04.719 --> 03:16:05.887
WAS INTRODUCED TO ME. BUT AFTER
03:16:05.954 --> 03:16:09.057
SITTING THINKING ABOUT THIS AND
03:16:09.124 --> 03:16:10.258
WALKING THROUGH SKID ROW AND
03:16:10.325 --> 03:16:12.961
SEEING PEOPLE USE USE. WHATEVER
03:16:13.027 --> 03:16:17.899
DRUG THEY WERE CHOOSING TO USE.
03:16:17.966 --> 03:16:20.435
HOW YOU YOU HAVE TO COME TO THE
03:16:20.502 --> 03:16:22.137
CONCLUSION THAT IT IS BETTER
03:16:22.203 --> 03:16:23.404
THAT THEY USE IT IN A FACILITY
03:16:23.471 --> 03:16:25.974
WORDS AT LEAST SUPERVISED. WERE
03:16:26.040 --> 03:16:27.142
THE WORST CANNOT HAPPEN THEIR
03:16:27.208 --> 03:16:30.645
DEATH. WERE THE WORST CANNOT
03:16:30.712 --> 03:16:31.646
HAPPEN THEM HURTING SOMEBODY
03:16:31.713 --> 03:16:35.283
ELSE. YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT
03:16:35.350 --> 03:16:37.051
THE WORST THAT CAN POSSIBLY
03:16:37.118 --> 03:16:38.052
HAPPEN IF SOMEBODY USES IT. THAT
03:16:38.119 --> 03:16:41.656
DOESN'T MAKE A BETTER PROGRAMS.
03:16:41.723 --> 03:16:42.790
COURSE, DOESN'T GET TO SOME
03:16:42.857 --> 03:16:43.958
PROGRAMS ARE NOT FAILED. I SAID
03:16:44.025 --> 03:16:45.593
THAT 100 TIMES. THAT'S AN
03:16:45.660 --> 03:16:46.761
EXAGGERATION TO BUT IT SAID THAT
03:16:46.828 --> 03:16:50.798
SEVERAL TIMES. IF YOU GO TO SOME
03:16:50.865 --> 03:16:53.001
OF THESE SOME OF THESE PROGRAMS
03:16:53.067 --> 03:16:55.637
ASKING FOR A SECOND. SORRY TO
03:16:55.703 --> 03:16:57.672
TAKE A LONG TIME AGO, BUT I FEEL
03:16:57.739 --> 03:16:58.239
VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS.
03:16:58.306 --> 03:16:59.874
THERE ARE SOBERING HOMES IN
03:16:59.941 --> 03:17:00.975
DOWNTOWN LOS ANGELES TO GET
03:17:01.042 --> 03:17:03.578
DRUNK. WE'RE WHAT WHAT? WHERE?
03:17:03.645 --> 03:17:05.246
WHAT HAPPENS IS THE WORST.
03:17:05.313 --> 03:17:09.350
SOMEBODY HAS TAKEN. THEIR NEAR
03:17:09.417 --> 03:17:12.820
DEATH OR POTENTIALLY AND THEY
03:17:12.887 --> 03:17:14.422
BRING THEM INTO THESE SILVER
03:17:14.489 --> 03:17:15.456
HOMES, LIKE CHALLENGE ANYBODY
03:17:15.523 --> 03:17:17.325
HERE TO COME WITH ME AND SEE
03:17:17.392 --> 03:17:18.826
THESE AND A PERSON IS THERE
03:17:18.893 --> 03:17:26.401
UNTIL THEY RECOVER. THAT IS THE
03:17:26.467 --> 03:17:27.902
WORST THAT WE'RE TRYING TO
03:17:27.969 --> 03:17:29.637
PREVENT FROM SOMEBODY COMING TO
03:17:29.704 --> 03:17:30.805
SILVER HOME. I WASN'T GONNA
03:17:30.872 --> 03:17:31.873
APPROACH THIS FROM A TECHNICAL
03:17:31.940 --> 03:17:33.107
EXPERTISE. BUT I DON'T THINK WE
03:17:33.174 --> 03:17:35.043
CAN MAKE THESE THIS APPROACH A
03:17:35.109 --> 03:17:40.281
BOOGEYMAN. IT'S NOT A BOOGEYMAN
03:17:40.348 --> 03:17:43.117
. IT IS AN UP IT IS TRYING TO
03:17:43.184 --> 03:17:45.453
GIVE AND I'M SORRY TO TAKE SO
03:17:45.520 --> 03:17:46.187
LONG. BUT IT'S BECAUSE I FEEL
03:17:46.254 --> 03:17:48.523
STRONGLY THAT THIS SHOULDN'T BE
03:17:48.590 --> 03:17:49.724
MADE A BOOGEYMAN IF YOU DON'T
03:17:49.791 --> 03:17:51.025
AGREE WITH IT FINE. THAT'S OKAY
03:17:51.092 --> 03:17:52.393
BUT AGAINST IT BUT WHAT? WHAT I
03:17:52.460 --> 03:17:54.295
THINK IS TRYING TO HAPPEN HERE
03:17:54.362 --> 03:17:55.463
WITHOUT PUTTING LANGUAGE INTO
03:17:55.530 --> 03:17:57.365
THE IN THE AUTHOR'S MOUTH. IS TO
03:17:57.432 --> 03:17:58.633
GIVE A LOCATION. WOULD YOU GIVE
03:17:58.700 --> 03:17:59.701
THE SAFEST POSSIBLE SCENARIO
03:17:59.767 --> 03:18:02.904
UNDER THE GIVEN CIRCUMSTANCES?
03:18:02.971 --> 03:18:04.072
FOR THAT INDIVIDUAL AND I WOULD
03:18:04.138 --> 03:18:08.176
ARGUE ALSO FOR THE PUBLIC. ARE
03:18:08.243 --> 03:18:10.545
WHEN IT'S SOMEBODY IS AT THEIR
03:18:10.612 --> 03:18:11.813
LOWEST POINT IN THEIR LIFE IS
03:18:11.879 --> 03:18:13.881
WHEN THEY LOOK TOWARDS HELP.
03:18:13.948 --> 03:18:16.317
THIS MAY BE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
03:18:16.384 --> 03:18:17.986
FIND SOMEBODY AT THEIR LOWEST
03:18:18.052 --> 03:18:21.256
POINT AND OFFER THEM THAT HELP.
03:18:21.322 --> 03:18:23.658
I THINK IT'S AN IT'S AN ATTEMPT
03:18:23.725 --> 03:18:25.026
TO ADDRESS MANY OF THE ISSUES
03:18:25.093 --> 03:18:26.561
THAT HAVE BEEN AIMED TO CREATE
03:18:26.628 --> 03:18:28.296
THIS THE BOOGEYMAN OF ALL
03:18:28.363 --> 03:18:29.497
THINGS. HE'S NOT SITTING HERE
03:18:29.564 --> 03:18:30.632
SAYING, HEY, LET'S CREATE A SAFE
03:18:30.698 --> 03:18:32.267
HOUSE SO EVERYBODY CAN COME HERE
03:18:32.333 --> 03:18:33.301
AND USE WE'RE NOT GOING THERE
03:18:33.368 --> 03:18:34.902
TOMORROW MORNING BECAUSE THEY'RE
03:18:34.969 --> 03:18:36.271
OFFERING STUFF. IT IS AN ATTEMPT
03:18:36.337 --> 03:18:37.739
TO CREATE A SAFE PLACE FOR
03:18:37.805 --> 03:18:39.207
PEOPLE TO USE TO HELP THEM WHEN
03:18:39.274 --> 03:18:41.209
THEY'RE AT THEIR LOWEST AND TO
03:18:41.276 --> 03:18:42.410
AND TO PREVENT THE WORST FROM
03:18:42.477 --> 03:18:43.544
HAPPENING IN PUBLIC SAFETY. I'M
03:18:43.611 --> 03:18:45.079
SORRY, MR CHAIR. I RARELY EVER
03:18:45.146 --> 03:18:47.181
SPEAK THAT LONG. I EVER SPEAK.
03:18:47.248 --> 03:18:48.783
YOU KNOW THAT, BUT BUT I DON'T
03:18:48.850 --> 03:18:50.685
WANT THIS TO BECOME THE
03:18:50.752 --> 03:18:51.819
BOOGEYMAN OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING
03:18:51.886 --> 03:18:54.889
TO DO HERE. YES, I WOULD JUST
03:18:54.956 --> 03:18:59.527
LIKE TO ASK MR LEVEL TO ADDRESS
03:18:59.594 --> 03:19:01.763
THIS OVERDOSE DEATHS, SO WE HAVE
03:19:01.829 --> 03:19:02.930
KIND OF A CLEARER PICTURE
03:19:02.997 --> 03:19:03.464
BECAUSE I KNOW WITH YOUR
03:19:03.531 --> 03:19:05.266
ASSOCIATION THAT YOU KNOW MORE.
03:19:05.333 --> 03:19:11.272
HERE'S THE PROBLEM. INJECTION
03:19:11.339 --> 03:19:15.209
SITES ONLY DRAW ABOUT 5% OF
03:19:15.276 --> 03:19:17.145
CONTINUOUS USERS. THAT'S TRUE IN
03:19:17.211 --> 03:19:21.749
CANADA. THAT'S TRUE IN NEW YORK.
03:19:21.816 --> 03:19:24.819
UM THERE'S NO STRATEGY FOR
03:19:24.886 --> 03:19:27.555
INCREASING THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE
03:19:27.622 --> 03:19:29.757
WHO COME TO AN INJECTION SITE.
03:19:29.824 --> 03:19:32.660
WHAT INJECTION SITES DO IS THERE
03:19:32.727 --> 03:19:34.796
IS A MAGNET EFFECT SO THAT
03:19:34.862 --> 03:19:38.199
PEOPLE COME INTO THE AREA. NOW
03:19:38.266 --> 03:19:40.768
WE CORE OF THE CHALLENGE WITH
03:19:40.835 --> 03:19:43.504
ADDICTION IS YOU ARE NOT DEALING
03:19:43.571 --> 03:19:44.706
WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE GOOD WITH
03:19:44.772 --> 03:19:48.810
DELAYED GRATIFICATION. IF I AM.
03:19:48.876 --> 03:19:51.279
SITTING IN AN ALLEY WITH MY
03:19:51.346 --> 03:19:53.081
NEEDLES, CLEAN OR DIRTY. AND
03:19:53.147 --> 03:19:57.085
WITH MY DOPE. I'VE GOT
03:19:57.151 --> 03:19:58.986
EVERYTHING I NEED. I'M GOING TO
03:19:59.053 --> 03:20:01.522
SIT AND SHOOT UP RIGHT THERE.
03:20:01.589 --> 03:20:03.891
NOW I WISH TO GOD THAT PEOPLE
03:20:03.958 --> 03:20:06.894
WOULD GO TO THE INJECTION SITE
03:20:06.961 --> 03:20:09.630
FIRST, SO THAT IF GOD FORBID
03:20:09.697 --> 03:20:10.798
SOMETHING GOES WRONG, THERE'S
03:20:10.865 --> 03:20:13.201
SOMEONE THERE TO INTERVENE. BUT
03:20:13.267 --> 03:20:15.636
THE TRUTH AND YOU CAN'T CHANGE
03:20:15.703 --> 03:20:16.738
THIS. THE TRUTH IS, IS THAT
03:20:16.804 --> 03:20:21.376
RIGHT NOW? ABOUT 5% OF THE
03:20:21.442 --> 03:20:23.611
REGULAR USERS GO TO INJECTION
03:20:23.678 --> 03:20:25.146
SITES. EVERYONE ELSE IS DRAWN
03:20:25.213 --> 03:20:27.248
INTO THE AREA. UM, AND THEY ARE
03:20:27.315 --> 03:20:30.885
OVERDOSING. IN THE MOST UNSAFE
03:20:30.952 --> 03:20:34.756
ENVIRONMENT. THERE IN THE ALLEY
03:20:34.822 --> 03:20:36.357
. THEY OVERDOSE THEY DIE. THE
03:20:36.424 --> 03:20:38.059
INJECTION SITE IS TWO BLOCKS
03:20:38.126 --> 03:20:40.361
AWAY, BUT THEY DON'T GO THERE
03:20:40.428 --> 03:20:42.597
AND YOU LOOK AT THIS BILL AND
03:20:42.663 --> 03:20:43.898
YOU LOOK AT OTHER BILLS WHERE
03:20:43.965 --> 03:20:46.234
THIS IS A PROBLEM. THERE IS NO
03:20:46.300 --> 03:20:49.337
COGNIZABLE STRATEGY. FOR
03:20:49.404 --> 03:20:52.607
FIGURING OUT HOW TO GET THE
03:20:52.673 --> 03:20:53.908
ADDICT TO THE INJECTION SITE,
03:20:53.975 --> 03:20:55.910
AND THAT'S THE CORE OF THIS
03:20:55.977 --> 03:20:58.012
EVERY PLACE WHERE YOU HAVE
03:20:58.079 --> 03:20:59.113
INJECTION SITES IN THE AREA
03:20:59.180 --> 03:21:02.583
AROUND IT. YOU HAVE AN INCREASE
03:21:02.650 --> 03:21:04.385
IN OVERDOSE DEATHS IN, FOR
03:21:04.452 --> 03:21:08.356
EXAMPLE, IN VANCOUVER. ACCORDING
03:21:08.423 --> 03:21:09.457
TO THE CORONER'S OFFICE IN
03:21:09.524 --> 03:21:13.528
BRITISH COLUMBIA. THE INJECTION
03:21:13.594 --> 03:21:16.264
SITE INCREASE OR THE INCREASE IN
03:21:16.330 --> 03:21:21.135
DEATHS FROM OVERDOSES. IN THE 18
03:21:21.202 --> 03:21:22.270
YEARS SINCE THEY'VE HAD THEIR
03:21:22.336 --> 03:21:25.873
INJECTION SITE. THE INCREASE IN
03:21:25.940 --> 03:21:29.210
OVERDOSE DEATHS IS 1000. IN
03:21:29.277 --> 03:21:34.248
ALBERTA PROVINCE. IT'S LOWER.
03:21:34.315 --> 03:21:37.452
THE INCREASE IS 65. UM IN NEW
03:21:37.518 --> 03:21:42.490
YORK CITY. AGAIN YOU HAVE A USE
03:21:42.557 --> 03:21:44.759
FACTOR OF ONLY 5. AT THE
03:21:44.826 --> 03:21:49.197
INJECTION SITE. AND SO YOU STILL
03:21:49.263 --> 03:21:53.034
HAVE IN OVERDOSE DEATHS? IN THE
03:21:53.100 --> 03:21:55.169
STREETS AND BECAUSE OF THE
03:21:55.236 --> 03:21:56.304
MAGNET EFFECT, YOU HAVE A
03:21:56.370 --> 03:21:58.172
GREATER QUANTITY OF PEOPLE.
03:21:58.239 --> 03:22:00.007
THAT'S THE TRAGEDY OF THIS, AND
03:22:00.074 --> 03:22:04.245
THAT'S THE FALSE NARRATIVE. THAT
03:22:04.312 --> 03:22:06.514
IS BEING IS BEING PUT FORWARD.
03:22:06.581 --> 03:22:09.817
THERE ISN'T IF IT IS POSSIBLE TO
03:22:09.884 --> 03:22:13.354
DO THIS, RIGHT? TO SIT DOWN AND
03:22:13.421 --> 03:22:16.224
FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO STRATEGIES
03:22:16.290 --> 03:22:17.325
THAT GET PEOPLE TO THE INJECTION
03:22:17.391 --> 03:22:21.729
SITE. TO INCENTIVIZE PEOPLE TO
03:22:21.796 --> 03:22:23.297
USE INJECTION SITES,
03:22:23.364 --> 03:22:24.198
DISINCENTIVIZE THEM TO SHOOT UP
03:22:24.265 --> 03:22:26.801
IN THE STREETS. BUT THIS BILL
03:22:26.868 --> 03:22:30.838
DOESN'T DO THAT. AND IT'S IN
03:22:30.905 --> 03:22:32.473
THERE SN'T A SERIOUS EFFORT TO
03:22:32.540 --> 03:22:33.574
SIT DOWN AND FIGURE THAT
03:22:33.641 --> 03:22:40.581
STRATEGY. AND MR QUIRK? YEAH. IT
03:22:40.648 --> 03:22:42.717
SOUNDS AS IF THE WITNESS, UH WAS
03:22:42.783 --> 03:22:47.455
SAYING THAT. BECAUSE DEATHS HAVE
03:22:47.522 --> 03:22:49.690
GONE UP. WE SHOULDN'T DO THIS
03:22:49.757 --> 03:22:51.626
CORRELATION IS NOT THE SAME AS
03:22:51.692 --> 03:22:52.827
CAUSATION TO BLAME. SITES LIKE
03:22:52.894 --> 03:22:57.665
THIS. WHEN IN THE REST OF THE
03:22:57.732 --> 03:22:58.799
COUNTRY WHERE THERE ARE NO
03:22:58.866 --> 03:23:00.635
SITES, THINGS HAVE GONE UP BY
03:23:00.701 --> 03:23:02.537
SIMILAR AMOUNTS. CERTAINLY CITY
03:23:02.603 --> 03:23:04.138
SHOULD LISTEN TO WHAT YOU HAVE
03:23:04.205 --> 03:23:06.541
TO SAY IN TERMS OF GETTING IT
03:23:06.607 --> 03:23:07.708
RIGHT AND GETTING PEOPLE THERE.
03:23:07.775 --> 03:23:10.444
THAT'S PART OF THE EXECUTION OF
03:23:10.511 --> 03:23:11.479
THIS. IT'S CERTAINLY NOT
03:23:11.546 --> 03:23:15.516
PROHIBITED BY THE BILL. SO THAT
03:23:15.583 --> 03:23:17.818
IS GOOD ADVICE. AND I HOPE THAT
03:23:17.885 --> 03:23:18.986
THE CITIES THAT ARE DOING THIS
03:23:19.053 --> 03:23:21.188
TAKE IT. THANK YOU. YOU KNOW,
03:23:21.255 --> 03:23:23.291
MOTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
03:23:23.357 --> 03:23:26.661
YOU MAY CLOSE MHM. THANK YOU, MR
03:23:26.727 --> 03:23:28.296
CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU. COLLEAGUES
03:23:28.362 --> 03:23:30.064
PRO AND CON FOR THE FOR THE
03:23:30.131 --> 03:23:33.200
DIALOGUE. ONE THING I THINK I
03:23:33.267 --> 03:23:37.104
WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT MHM
03:23:37.171 --> 03:23:38.706
AND NO POINT HAVE I OR ANYONE
03:23:38.773 --> 03:23:40.374
ELSE THAT I'M AWARE OF SAID THAT
03:23:40.441 --> 03:23:42.810
THIS IS LIKE A SILVER BULLET. IF
03:23:42.877 --> 03:23:44.478
WE DO THIS, THE ADDICTION OVER
03:23:44.545 --> 03:23:45.580
THOSE CRISIS IS GOING TO BE
03:23:45.646 --> 03:23:47.014
OVER. I'VE NEVER SAID THAT. THIS
03:23:47.081 --> 03:23:49.684
IS ONE ADDITIONAL TOOL AMONG
03:23:49.750 --> 03:23:52.253
MANY OTHER TOOLS AND THE SUGGEST
03:23:52.320 --> 03:23:54.221
THAT A TOOL HAS TO SOLVE THE
03:23:54.288 --> 03:23:56.691
ENTIRE PROBLEM TO USE IT. THAT'S
03:23:56.757 --> 03:23:57.892
JUST NOT HOW THE REAL WORLD
03:23:57.959 --> 03:24:01.362
WORKS. THIS IS A TOOL THAT WE
03:24:01.429 --> 03:24:02.296
KNOW FROM EXPERIENCE AND OTHER
03:24:02.363 --> 03:24:05.366
CITIES HAS REAL BENEFITS. THE
03:24:05.433 --> 03:24:07.034
ONLY THING WE SHOULD BE DOING OF
03:24:07.101 --> 03:24:08.302
COURSE, WE SHOULD BE INCREASING
03:24:08.369 --> 03:24:12.573
TREATMENT. ABSOLUTELY. BUT THIS
03:24:12.640 --> 03:24:15.543
IS ONE WAY TO HELP KEEP PEOPLE
03:24:15.610 --> 03:24:17.011
SAFE AND ACTUALLY HELP PEOPLE
03:24:17.078 --> 03:24:18.145
GET INTO THANK YOU GET INTO
03:24:18.212 --> 03:24:21.482
TREATMENTS. THANK YOU. SOME OF
03:24:21.549 --> 03:24:23.117
THEM ARE QUOTE FOR QUOTE FOR
03:24:23.184 --> 03:24:25.920
POINTING OUT THAT YOU KNOW, TO
03:24:25.987 --> 03:24:28.022
GET TO MARCH IN HERE AND SAY
03:24:28.089 --> 03:24:30.157
THAT OVER THE 18 YEARS THAT HAVE
03:24:30.224 --> 03:24:31.192
SAFE CONSUMPTION SITE HAS BEEN
03:24:31.258 --> 03:24:33.294
IN EFFECT. OVERDOSES WENT UP
03:24:33.361 --> 03:24:35.663
WHEN WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENED OVER
03:24:35.730 --> 03:24:36.664
THAT TIME WITH SYNTHETIC OPIOIDS
03:24:36.731 --> 03:24:40.901
THAT THAT'S REALLY JUST NOTHING
03:24:40.968 --> 03:24:42.770
SHOCKS ME ANYMORE, BUT THAT'S
03:24:42.837 --> 03:24:44.005
SORT OF SHOCKS ME THAT SOMEONE
03:24:44.071 --> 03:24:45.206
WOULD COME IN HERE AND SAY, LET
03:24:45.272 --> 03:24:47.041
THEM BLAME THE SITE FOR THAT.
03:24:47.108 --> 03:24:49.210
UM, AND THE IDEA THAT YOU
03:24:49.276 --> 03:24:50.378
CRITICIZE THIS BY SAYING NOT
03:24:50.444 --> 03:24:54.148
ENOUGH PEOPLE ARE USING IT. LIKE
03:24:54.215 --> 03:24:56.550
OKAY. I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT. YOU
03:24:56.617 --> 03:24:57.351
WANT MORE PEOPLE TO USE IT. BUT
03:24:57.418 --> 03:24:58.953
THE CRITICIZES BY SAYING NOT
03:24:59.020 --> 03:25:00.087
ENOUGH PEOPLE ARE GOING TO USE
03:25:00.154 --> 03:25:01.889
IT. WELL, THAT'S A CHALLENGE. TO
03:25:01.956 --> 03:25:02.990
THESE STUDIES SAY, LET'S FIND
03:25:03.057 --> 03:25:04.892
WAYS TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE WHO ARE
03:25:04.959 --> 03:25:06.560
USING KNOW ABOUT THESE SITES AND
03:25:06.627 --> 03:25:09.630
CAN ACCESS THEM SO WE CAN HELP
03:25:09.697 --> 03:25:10.564
GET THEM IN THE RECOVERY AND SO
03:25:10.631 --> 03:25:12.800
WE CAN PREVENT THEM FROM DYING.
03:25:12.867 --> 03:25:13.834
I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN I
03:25:13.901 --> 03:25:15.870
VOTE. AND I WANT TO YOU KNOW
03:25:15.936 --> 03:25:17.271
WHEN THIS FIRST BROUGHT TO ME
03:25:17.338 --> 03:25:19.907
SEVERAL YEARS AGO BY ONE OF MY
03:25:19.974 --> 03:25:21.809
COLLEAGUES FROM SAN JOSE, I WAS
03:25:21.876 --> 03:25:22.410
VERY APPREHENSIVE, AND I AND I
03:25:22.476 --> 03:25:24.679
PROBABLY WAS ONE OF THE
03:25:24.745 --> 03:25:26.080
IMPEDIMENTS TO EVEN GETTING THIS
03:25:26.147 --> 03:25:27.982
TO THIS STAGE. UM SINCE THEN,
03:25:28.049 --> 03:25:30.017
I'VE LEARNED A LOT. UM THE
03:25:30.084 --> 03:25:31.919
REASON YOU SEE SO MUCH PASSION
03:25:31.986 --> 03:25:32.987
FROM MR SANTIAGO BECAUSE HE USED
03:25:33.054 --> 03:25:34.922
TO REPRESENT BUT HE'S STILL
03:25:34.989 --> 03:25:39.060
REPRESENTS SKID ROW. I WILL BE
03:25:39.126 --> 03:25:40.194
REPRESENTING SKID ROW. UM, NEXT
03:25:40.261 --> 03:25:44.031
YEAR. AND SO WE BOTH HAVE A
03:25:44.098 --> 03:25:46.267
VESTED INTEREST IN THE COMMUNITY
03:25:46.333 --> 03:25:48.669
. UM THAT'S BEEN IMPACTED BY
03:25:48.736 --> 03:25:50.504
DRUGS. YOUTH I WILL SAY FROM A
03:25:50.571 --> 03:25:54.041
PERSONAL LEVEL. UM, I'VE HAD AND
03:25:54.108 --> 03:25:56.777
ALCOHOL AND A COUSIN DIED IN SAN
03:25:56.844 --> 03:25:58.012
FRANCISCO, A DRUG OVERDOSE, ONE
03:25:58.079 --> 03:26:00.648
BECAME A DRUG COUNSELOR. BUT THE
03:26:00.715 --> 03:26:02.416
DEMONS JUST TOOK OVER AND
03:26:02.483 --> 03:26:03.551
EVENTUALLY HE USED TO COME TO
03:26:03.617 --> 03:26:05.252
HEROIN. AND WE WENT THROUGH
03:26:05.319 --> 03:26:08.222
THAT. WORK GOING TO DO TOUGH
03:26:08.289 --> 03:26:12.093
LOVE. AND I WATCHED BOTH OF MY
03:26:12.159 --> 03:26:14.995
RELATIVE DIE IN THE STREET. AND
03:26:15.062 --> 03:26:16.130
SO TOUGH LOVE DIDN'T WORK
03:26:16.197 --> 03:26:18.933
EITHER. UM, BUT I DO REMEMBER MY
03:26:18.999 --> 03:26:21.168
COUSIN SAYING BECAUSE HE GOT
03:26:21.235 --> 03:26:23.904
INTO THE TREATMENT BUSINESS.
03:26:23.971 --> 03:26:25.139
BECAUSE HE WAS ABLE TO RELATE TO
03:26:25.206 --> 03:26:27.908
OTHER ADDICTS. HE WAS REALLY
03:26:27.975 --> 03:26:29.844
PROUD THAT HE SAVED A LOT OF
03:26:29.910 --> 03:26:31.712
PEOPLE. BUT THERE WEREN'T ENOUGH
03:26:31.779 --> 03:26:33.814
. AND THIS IS IN THE EIGHTIES.
03:26:33.881 --> 03:26:35.015
THERE WEREN'T ENOUGH FACILITIES
03:26:35.082 --> 03:26:38.085
TO GO AHEAD AND HELP UM. I LOVE
03:26:38.152 --> 03:26:41.922
THE FACT THAT IT'S VOLUNTARY. I
03:26:41.989 --> 03:26:43.958
BELIEVE THAT THE COUNTY OF LOS
03:26:44.024 --> 03:26:45.960
ANGELES AND FORMER COLLEAGUES OF
03:26:46.026 --> 03:26:49.563
OURS WHO WERE THERE NOW WILL
03:26:49.630 --> 03:26:51.098
TAKE THE ADVICE OF WHAT I'M
03:26:51.165 --> 03:26:54.401
HEARING FROM THE OPPONENT. AND
03:26:54.468 --> 03:26:56.637
TAKE ALL THAT INFORMATION AND
03:26:56.704 --> 03:26:59.740
PUT IT INTO A PROGRAM THAT WILL
03:26:59.807 --> 03:27:01.275
WORK. I MEAN, THERE WAS A
03:27:01.342 --> 03:27:03.043
SUGGESTION THAT WE WAIT UNTIL WE
03:27:03.110 --> 03:27:04.178
COME UP WITH THE PERFECT
03:27:04.245 --> 03:27:06.847
LEGISLATION. AND I'VE SAID THAT
03:27:06.914 --> 03:27:08.549
1000 TIMES. I'LL SAY IT TO GET
03:27:08.616 --> 03:27:09.950
AGAIN TODAY. IT'S NEVER
03:27:10.017 --> 03:27:14.121
LEGISLATION IMPLEMENTATION. IT'S
03:27:14.188 --> 03:27:16.090
WHAT THE COUNTY'S DO WE CAN COME
03:27:16.157 --> 03:27:17.892
UP WITH, WE THINK IS THE BEST.
03:27:17.958 --> 03:27:19.059
LEGISLATION IN THE WORLD IF IT'S
03:27:19.126 --> 03:27:20.861
NOT IMPLEMENTED, RIGHT? THEN
03:27:20.928 --> 03:27:24.265
IT'S A FAILURE. I HAVE 100%
03:27:24.331 --> 03:27:25.432
CONFIDENCE THAT L. A COUNTY WILL
03:27:25.499 --> 03:27:28.769
GET IT RIGHT. I'VE TALKED TO A
03:27:28.836 --> 03:27:29.904
FORMER COLLEAGUE WHO WAS UP HERE
03:27:29.970 --> 03:27:31.705
YESTERDAY. UM, WHO'S NOW HAS A
03:27:31.772 --> 03:27:32.406
JOB IN THE CITY. OF SAN
03:27:32.473 --> 03:27:39.280
FRANCISCO. UM AND HE TOLD ME.
03:27:39.346 --> 03:27:40.514
THIS SHOULD HAPPEN AND WE SHOULD
03:27:40.581 --> 03:27:41.382
GIVE SAN FRANCISCO AN
03:27:41.448 --> 03:27:43.517
OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH
03:27:43.584 --> 03:27:46.220
THAT. AND SO ON THE ADVICE OF
03:27:46.287 --> 03:27:47.354
PEOPLE WHO WILL HAVE TO LIVE
03:27:47.421 --> 03:27:51.258
WITH IT. MY COUNTY, YOUR COUNTY
03:27:51.325 --> 03:27:54.061
. UM I'M GOING TO SAY THAT WE
03:27:54.128 --> 03:27:55.229
NEED TO GO AHEAD AND TRY
03:27:55.296 --> 03:27:57.264
SOMETHING NEW. AND WE NEED TO GO
03:27:57.331 --> 03:27:59.300
AHEAD AND MAKE SURE WE LISTEN TO
03:27:59.366 --> 03:28:01.235
THE OPPONENTS. MAKE SURE THAT
03:28:01.302 --> 03:28:03.671
ALL THAT INFORMATION GETS DOWN
03:28:03.737 --> 03:28:04.905
TO THE LOCAL LEVELS OF THE ONES
03:28:04.972 --> 03:28:06.841
THAT WANT TO DO THIS. THAT'S
03:28:06.907 --> 03:28:08.242
THAT'S THE KEY TO ME. IF YOU
03:28:08.309 --> 03:28:09.643
VOLUNTARILY WANT TO DO THIS,
03:28:09.710 --> 03:28:12.580
KNOWING ALL OF THE ALL OF THE
03:28:12.646 --> 03:28:13.147
HEADACHES AND PEDIMENTS THE
03:28:13.214 --> 03:28:15.583
TROUBLE AND, UM MR SANTIAGO CAN
03:28:15.649 --> 03:28:17.685
TELL YOU, IT IS A STRUGGLE AND
03:28:17.751 --> 03:28:20.054
SKID ROW. YOU CAN TELL US. IT'S
03:28:20.120 --> 03:28:21.589
STRUGGLING IN THE TENDERLOIN,
03:28:21.655 --> 03:28:22.690
THE FACT THAT THE GOVERNMENTAL
03:28:22.756 --> 03:28:24.558
AGENCIES WANT TO ACTIVELY MAKE
03:28:24.625 --> 03:28:26.560
THIS HAPPEN IS HUGE, AND WE
03:28:26.627 --> 03:28:28.529
SHOULD NOT GET IN THEIR WAY. WE
03:28:28.596 --> 03:28:29.864
SHOULD GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY.
03:28:29.930 --> 03:28:31.298
AND SO I THINK THERE'S ENOUGH
03:28:31.365 --> 03:28:32.166
INFORMATION JUST IN THIS
03:28:32.233 --> 03:28:34.034
DISCUSSION TO SAY NOT ONLY
03:28:34.101 --> 03:28:35.269
SHOULD WE MOVE AHEAD WITH THESE
03:28:35.336 --> 03:28:37.071
PILOT PROGRAMS, BUT WE SHOULD
03:28:37.137 --> 03:28:38.973
MAKE SURE THEY HAVE ALL THE
03:28:39.039 --> 03:28:40.074
INFORMATION THAT WAS JUST SAID
03:28:40.140 --> 03:28:41.876
TODAY. AND THEN SOME, SO THAT WE
03:28:41.942 --> 03:28:44.178
CAN HAVE THE BEST OUTCOMES FROM
03:28:44.245 --> 03:28:45.379
ALL OF THESE INJECTION SITE,
03:28:45.446 --> 03:28:48.682
CHURCH RECOMMENDING AND I VOTE.
03:28:48.749 --> 03:28:50.084
HONEST TO BE 57 BY SENATOR
03:28:50.150 --> 03:28:52.286
WIENER. THE MOTION IS DUE PASS
03:28:52.353 --> 03:28:55.923
SAWYER SAWYER. I LACKEY LACKEY.
03:28:55.990 --> 03:28:58.225
NO, BONTA, I BRIAN BRIAN, I
03:28:58.292 --> 03:29:02.730
WORK. QUIRK SANTIAGO SANTIAGO I
03:29:02.796 --> 03:29:07.034
SEE ARTO ARTO NÓ. THE MEASURE
03:29:07.101 --> 03:29:08.736
PASSES. THANK YOU COLLEAGUES.
03:29:08.802 --> 03:29:09.803
YOU'RE WELCOME. WE'RE NOW GOING
03:29:09.870 --> 03:29:12.606
TO ITEMS. SB 467 WIENER EXPERT
03:29:12.673 --> 03:29:17.011
WITNESSES. WRITTEN HAPPY, OF
03:29:17.077 --> 03:29:18.212
COURSE MAYBE A CORPUS OR DO YOU
03:29:18.279 --> 03:29:22.683
WANT TO GO? THANK YOU. I'LL BE
03:29:22.750 --> 03:29:33.160
BRIEF. HMM. BUT WE'RE GOING TO
03:29:33.227 --> 03:29:35.963
TRY TO I WANT TO GO THROUGH AND
03:29:36.030 --> 03:29:37.331
TRY TO GET AS MUCH AS IT'S DONE
03:29:37.398 --> 03:29:39.133
AS POSSIBLE. SO WE'LL BE. WE'LL
03:29:39.199 --> 03:29:42.670
BE BRIEF. AH! THANK YOU, MR SP.
03:29:42.736 --> 03:29:45.539
FORWARD. 67 IS A BILL DESIGNED
03:29:45.606 --> 03:29:46.774
TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT
03:29:46.840 --> 03:29:50.044
WRONGFULLY CONVICTED BASED ON
03:29:50.110 --> 03:29:51.078
FLAWED OR FALSE EXPERT
03:29:51.145 --> 03:29:55.049
TESTIMONY. AND THAT PEOPLE WHO
03:29:55.115 --> 03:29:57.051
HAVE BEEN CONVICTED WHERE THERE
03:29:57.117 --> 03:29:59.553
IS NOW A SIGNIFICANT SERIOUS
03:29:59.620 --> 03:30:01.188
DISPUTE AS TO THE VALIDITY OF
03:30:01.255 --> 03:30:02.890
EXPERT TESTIMONY THAT THAT THE
03:30:02.957 --> 03:30:05.225
COMMISSION WAS BASED ON HAVE THE
03:30:05.292 --> 03:30:07.795
ABILITY TO SEEK HABEAS CORPUS.
03:30:07.861 --> 03:30:09.263
WE KNOW THAT EXPERT TESTIMONY IS
03:30:09.330 --> 03:30:10.965
EXTREMELY POWERFUL. WHEN IT'S
03:30:11.031 --> 03:30:12.633
PRESENTED TO A JURY. WE WANT TO
03:30:12.700 --> 03:30:14.201
MAKE SURE THAT IT HAS A SOUND
03:30:14.268 --> 03:30:16.770
BASIS, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE
03:30:16.837 --> 03:30:18.605
THAT IF SOMEONE WAS CONVICTED ON
03:30:18.672 --> 03:30:21.141
WHAT ENDS UP BEING QUESTIONABLE
03:30:21.208 --> 03:30:23.177
OR EVEN JUNK EXPERT TESTIMONY
03:30:23.243 --> 03:30:24.979
THAT THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO
03:30:25.045 --> 03:30:27.314
GET OUT OF PRISON. I
03:30:27.381 --> 03:30:28.482
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN I VOTE
03:30:28.549 --> 03:30:31.485
WITH ME TODAY TO BRIEF WITH ME
03:30:31.552 --> 03:30:34.154
TODAY TO BRIEFLY TESTIFY IS
03:30:34.221 --> 03:30:35.255
JANET DURATEC, WHO IS AN
03:30:35.322 --> 03:30:39.693
EXONEREES. AND DAVID FLAGMAN,
03:30:39.760 --> 03:30:41.228
WHO'S CHANCELLOR INDIAN AT
03:30:41.295 --> 03:30:43.630
HASTINGS COLLEGE OF THE LAW AND
03:30:43.697 --> 03:30:46.367
EXPERT IN THIS AREA MOTION FROM
03:30:46.433 --> 03:30:47.601
THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE.
03:30:47.668 --> 03:30:49.570
DON'T TALKED PAST THE YES.
03:30:49.636 --> 03:30:52.172
WHAT'S PAST AS YOU CAN. UM GOOD
03:30:52.239 --> 03:30:56.210
AFTERNOON, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS
03:30:56.276 --> 03:30:58.712
JANET DIXON. I WAS WRONGFULLY
03:30:58.779 --> 03:31:00.047
CONVICTED WITH THE FLAWED
03:31:00.114 --> 03:31:02.716
SCIENCE OF ARSON AND GIVEN AN
03:31:02.783 --> 03:31:04.418
ILLEGAL SENTENCE OF LIFE WITHOUT
03:31:04.485 --> 03:31:07.554
THE POSSIBILITY OF PAROLE. I WAS
03:31:07.621 --> 03:31:11.058
18 YEARS OLD. I SPENT 40 YEARS
03:31:11.125 --> 03:31:12.960
IN PRISON AND WAS FREED AT THE
03:31:13.027 --> 03:31:17.031
AGE OF 58. THE EXPERT TESTIMONY
03:31:17.097 --> 03:31:18.432
AT MY TRIAL WAS SO COMPELLING
03:31:18.499 --> 03:31:22.636
AND SO BELIEVABLE. THE JURY
03:31:22.703 --> 03:31:25.172
JURORS WITHOUT HAVING FORMAL
03:31:25.239 --> 03:31:26.206
TRAINING PROBABLY FELT OBLIGATED
03:31:26.273 --> 03:31:30.477
TO AGREE. AT TIMES. I EVEN
03:31:30.544 --> 03:31:32.446
DOUBTED MYSELF AND DID NOT KNOW
03:31:32.513 --> 03:31:35.282
WHAT WAS HAPPENING OR WHY. BUT I
03:31:35.349 --> 03:31:36.850
KNEW THE EXPERT TESTIMONY WAS
03:31:36.917 --> 03:31:40.220
ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE. FOR AT THE
03:31:40.287 --> 03:31:42.489
HEART OF THIS FLAWED SCIENCE OF
03:31:42.556 --> 03:31:45.325
ARSON ARE REAL PEOPLE WHO HAVE
03:31:45.392 --> 03:31:47.227
LOST OR STAND TO LOSE A
03:31:47.294 --> 03:31:50.564
LIFETIME. I HAVE NOT BEEN
03:31:50.631 --> 03:31:53.767
TOTALLY EXONERATED YET. BUT AS
03:31:53.834 --> 03:31:55.969
LONG AS THERE IS BREATH IN ME, I
03:31:56.036 --> 03:31:57.538
WILL FIGHT THIS FIGHT CALLED
03:31:57.604 --> 03:31:59.206
JUSTICE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
03:31:59.273 --> 03:32:04.945
UM. GOOD AFTERNOON, MR CHAIR AND
03:32:05.012 --> 03:32:07.047
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. THANK
03:32:07.114 --> 03:32:08.715
YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO
03:32:08.782 --> 03:32:10.818
SPEAK IN STRONG SUPPORT OF SB 4
03:32:10.884 --> 03:32:14.221
67. CHIEF JUDGE HARRY EDWARDS,
03:32:14.288 --> 03:32:15.289
THE UNITED STATES COURT OF
03:32:15.355 --> 03:32:17.825
APPEALS FOR THE D C. CIRCUIT
03:32:17.891 --> 03:32:18.358
COACH CHAIR. THE NATIONAL
03:32:18.425 --> 03:32:20.627
ACADEMIES OF SCIENCES REPORT IN
03:32:20.694 --> 03:32:21.795
2000 AND NINE ON FORENSIC
03:32:21.862 --> 03:32:25.265
SCIENCE. THAT REPORT CRITICIZED
03:32:25.332 --> 03:32:27.668
THE HOST OF FORENSIC FIELDS,
03:32:27.734 --> 03:32:29.269
INCLUDING AMONG OTHERS, TWO
03:32:29.336 --> 03:32:32.172
MARKS AND FIREARMS, HAIR FIBER
03:32:32.239 --> 03:32:33.440
AND BITE MARKS FOR LACKING A
03:32:33.507 --> 03:32:34.408
SUPPORTING SCIENTIFIC
03:32:34.475 --> 03:32:38.245
LITERATURE. THE REPORT WENT ON
03:32:38.312 --> 03:32:39.079
TO NOTE THAT MANY OF THESE
03:32:39.146 --> 03:32:41.048
FIELDS DO NOT EVEN CONSIDER
03:32:41.115 --> 03:32:43.417
WHETHER ADDRESS QUESTIONS
03:32:43.484 --> 03:32:44.451
REGARDING VARIABILITY,
03:32:44.518 --> 03:32:47.721
RELIABILITY, REPEATABILITY. OR
03:32:47.788 --> 03:32:48.922
THE NUMBER OF CORRELATIONS
03:32:48.989 --> 03:32:51.191
NEEDED TO ACHIEVE A GIVEN DEGREE
03:32:51.258 --> 03:32:54.294
OF CONFIDENCE. THE 2000 AND NINE
03:32:54.361 --> 03:32:55.362
REPORTS SURPRISED MANY IN THE
03:32:55.429 --> 03:32:58.232
LEGAL COMMUNITY. FOLLOWING THE
03:32:58.298 --> 03:32:59.633
PUBLICATION OF THE REPORT, JUDGE
03:32:59.700 --> 03:33:01.368
EDWARD STATED THAT HE HAD
03:33:01.435 --> 03:33:03.103
STARTED WITH THE ASSUMPTION LIKE
03:33:03.170 --> 03:33:05.139
MOST PEOPLE THAT THE SCIENCE WAS
03:33:05.205 --> 03:33:07.641
VALID. HE SAID, HOWEVER, THAT HE
03:33:07.708 --> 03:33:08.942
WAS QUOTE SURPRISINGLY MISTAKEN
03:33:09.009 --> 03:33:12.079
IN WHAT HE HAD ASSUMED UNQUOTE.
03:33:12.146 --> 03:33:15.082
HISTORICALLY OUTSIDE OF D. N A.
03:33:15.149 --> 03:33:16.083
MOST OF THE FORENSIC
03:33:16.150 --> 03:33:17.618
IDENTIFICATION SCIENCES WHO
03:33:17.684 --> 03:33:19.920
DEVELOPED BY POLICE LABORATORIES
03:33:19.987 --> 03:33:21.355
FOR INVESTIGATION PURPOSES AND
03:33:21.421 --> 03:33:22.556
WERE NEVER SUBJECTED TO RIGOROUS
03:33:22.623 --> 03:33:24.358
STUDY. BY THE MAINSTREAM
03:33:24.424 --> 03:33:28.061
SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY. COURTS
03:33:28.128 --> 03:33:29.596
LARGELY ALLOWED THESE EXPERTS TO
03:33:29.663 --> 03:33:31.165
TESTIFY IN THE BASIS OF A
03:33:31.231 --> 03:33:33.033
CONSENSUS OF THE RESPECTIVE
03:33:33.100 --> 03:33:35.035
FIELDS REGARDING THEIR VALIDITY.
03:33:35.102 --> 03:33:36.837
YET MANY ONCE ACCEPTED FORENSIC
03:33:36.904 --> 03:33:38.906
METHODS HAVE BEEN DEMONSTRATED
03:33:38.972 --> 03:33:41.108
TO BE INVALID, AND AS A RESULT,
03:33:41.175 --> 03:33:42.509
THE FBI HAS SINCE ABANDONED
03:33:42.576 --> 03:33:43.911
PREVIOUSLY BELIEVED INDICATORS
03:33:43.977 --> 03:33:47.381
OF ARSON. HAIR IDENTIFICATION
03:33:47.447 --> 03:33:48.849
AND COMPARATIVE BULLET. LEAD
03:33:48.916 --> 03:33:51.051
ANALYSIS. FIREARMS
03:33:51.118 --> 03:33:52.653
IDENTIFICATION IS ANOTHER HIGH
03:33:52.719 --> 03:33:54.721
PROFILE EXAMPLE WHERE THE
03:33:54.788 --> 03:33:56.089
ABILITY OF FIREARMS EXAMINERS TO
03:33:56.156 --> 03:33:58.625
CORRECTLY IDENTIFY A BULLET. OR
03:33:58.692 --> 03:33:59.960
MAGIC CARTRIDGE CASE TO
03:34:00.027 --> 03:34:02.129
PARTICULAR GUN IS ASSERTED TO
03:34:02.196 --> 03:34:04.565
HAVE LESS THAN 1% ERROR RATES BY
03:34:04.631 --> 03:34:06.500
THOSE IN THIS FIELD, HOWEVER,
03:34:06.567 --> 03:34:07.634
THE RIDDLE APPROPRIATE RESEARCH
03:34:07.701 --> 03:34:10.904
THAT EXISTS INDICATES THAT ERROR
03:34:10.971 --> 03:34:12.973
RATES EXCEED 30% AND MAYBE AS
03:34:13.040 --> 03:34:16.376
HIGH AS 50. THE 2000 AND NINE
03:34:16.443 --> 03:34:18.045
REPORT OF THE NATIONAL ACADEMIES
03:34:18.111 --> 03:34:20.781
AND THE MORE RECENT 2016 REPORT
03:34:20.847 --> 03:34:22.649
OF PRESIDENT OBAMA'S PRESIDENT'S
03:34:22.716 --> 03:34:23.951
COUNCIL OF ADVISORS AND SCIENCE
03:34:24.017 --> 03:34:26.753
AND TECHNOLOGY P CAST. INDICATE
03:34:26.820 --> 03:34:28.155
THAT MANY ADDITIONAL FORENSIC
03:34:28.222 --> 03:34:29.323
FIELD SIT ON SHAKY OR NON
03:34:29.389 --> 03:34:33.060
EXISTENT. EMPIRICAL FOUNDATIONS
03:34:33.126 --> 03:34:35.762
. I BELIEVE THAT SP 4 67 WILL
03:34:35.829 --> 03:34:37.631
ULTIMATELY READ TO CREATION OF
03:34:37.698 --> 03:34:39.666
BETTER FORENSIC TECHNOLOGIES
03:34:39.733 --> 03:34:41.034
BECAUSE COURT BECAUSE COURTS
03:34:41.101 --> 03:34:42.236
WILL DEMAND THAT THE RESEARCH BE
03:34:42.302 --> 03:34:45.606
DONE. AS THE REVOLUTION IN LAW
03:34:45.672 --> 03:34:47.040
ENFORCEMENT THAT IS DNA
03:34:47.107 --> 03:34:49.676
PROFILING DEMONSTRATED, WELL
03:34:49.743 --> 03:34:51.078
VALIDATED FORENSIC SCIENCE,
03:34:51.144 --> 03:34:52.479
EFFECTIVELY CONVICT THE GUILTY
03:34:52.546 --> 03:34:54.615
AND EXONERATES THE INNOCENT.
03:34:54.681 --> 03:34:56.350
THAT IS AN OUTCOME WERE
03:34:56.416 --> 03:34:57.217
SUPPORTING. THANK YOU. THANK
03:34:57.284 --> 03:35:00.520
YOU. THIS ISN'T PORTS. SAME
03:35:00.587 --> 03:35:01.788
ORGANIZATION. NATASHA MINSTER,
03:35:01.855 --> 03:35:02.756
SMART JUSTICE, CALIFORNIA AND
03:35:02.823 --> 03:35:07.427
SUPPORT. GOOD AFTERNOON, MELISSA
03:35:07.494 --> 03:35:08.295
O'CONNELL FROM THE NORTHERN
03:35:08.362 --> 03:35:09.329
CALIFORNIA INNOCENCE PROJECT,
03:35:09.396 --> 03:35:11.231
AND WE WERE PROUD CO SPONSOR OF
03:35:11.298 --> 03:35:15.035
SB 4 67. GOOD AFTERNOON. JASMINE
03:35:15.102 --> 03:35:16.003
HARRIS. THE CALIFORNIAN ISMS
03:35:16.069 --> 03:35:18.939
PROJECT STRONG SUPPORT. GOOD
03:35:19.006 --> 03:35:20.540
AFTERNOON, AISHA HUSSEIN FROM
03:35:20.607 --> 03:35:21.808
THE LOYOLA PROJECT FOR THE
03:35:21.875 --> 03:35:23.243
INNOCENT, BASED IN LOS ANGELES,
03:35:23.310 --> 03:35:24.978
PROUD COAST SPONSOR IN STRONG
03:35:25.045 --> 03:35:27.147
SUPPORT. ALSO IN SUPPORT ARE THE
03:35:27.214 --> 03:35:29.049
FOLLOWING ORGANIZATIONS. W
03:35:29.116 --> 03:35:30.717
CALIFORNIA ACTION, CALIFORNIA
03:35:30.784 --> 03:35:31.351
PUBLIC DEFENDERS ASSOCIATION AND
03:35:31.418 --> 03:35:36.089
INITIATE JUSTICE. THANK YOU.
03:35:36.156 --> 03:35:37.791
GOOD MORNING OR AFTERNOON. GLENN
03:35:37.858 --> 03:35:38.925
BACCHUS FOR ALLAH BAKER CENTER
03:35:38.992 --> 03:35:43.697
IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU. LITTLE
03:35:43.764 --> 03:35:45.198
WITH CALIFORNIA'S FOR SAFETY AND
03:35:45.265 --> 03:35:47.434
JUSTICE AND SUPPORT AND TIME
03:35:47.501 --> 03:35:49.036
DONE AND SUPPORT. THANK YOU. 18
03:35:49.102 --> 03:35:50.904
T OPERATOR OPENED THE LINES FOR
03:35:50.971 --> 03:35:52.005
WITNESSES AND SUPPORT OF A B
03:35:52.072 --> 03:35:57.544
467. YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT. YOU
03:35:57.611 --> 03:35:59.913
MAY PRESS ONE AND THEN ZERO.
03:35:59.980 --> 03:36:01.114
AGAIN THAT IS ONE IN THE ZERO
03:36:01.181 --> 03:36:04.484
APPEARANCE SUPPORT. WE WILL GO
03:36:04.551 --> 03:36:08.422
TO LINE 1 23. YOUR LINE IS OPEN.
03:36:08.488 --> 03:36:09.690
GOOD AFTERNOON. THIS IS JIM
03:36:09.756 --> 03:36:11.425
LINDBERG ON BEHALF OF THE
03:36:11.491 --> 03:36:12.559
FRIENDS COMMITTEE ON LEGISLATION
03:36:12.626 --> 03:36:18.699
IN CALIFORNIA IN SUPPORT. QUÊ
03:36:18.765 --> 03:36:19.900
AND WE HAVE NO FURTHER
03:36:19.966 --> 03:36:21.902
SUPPORTING QUÊ AT THIS TIME, MR
03:36:21.968 --> 03:36:24.571
CHAIR, WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION.
03:36:24.638 --> 03:36:26.206
SEEING NOTHING. THE HEARING ROOM
03:36:26.273 --> 03:36:27.441
OPEN UP THE LINES, WITNESSES AND
03:36:27.507 --> 03:36:31.912
OPPOSITION. GIVING UP POSITION.
03:36:31.978 --> 03:36:36.083
YOU MAY PRESS ONE AND THEN ZERO.
03:36:36.149 --> 03:36:37.384
AGAIN THAT IS ONE AND THEN ZERO.
03:36:37.451 --> 03:36:41.988
IF YOU'RE AN OPPOSITION. AND WE
03:36:42.055 --> 03:36:43.924
HAVE NO OPPOSITION IN Q AT THIS
03:36:43.990 --> 03:36:45.158
TIME, MR CHAIR. THANK YOU WILL
03:36:45.225 --> 03:36:49.429
BRING IT IN. T<c.cyan> THE COMMITTEE</c>
03:36:49.496 --> 03:36:54.301
ANY QUESTIONS? YES. WHERE I'VE
03:36:54.368 --> 03:36:57.170
BEEN MOVING IN A SECOND. THE
03:36:57.237 --> 03:37:00.640
SECOND. I SECOND, OKAY? YOU MAY
03:37:00.707 --> 03:37:05.112
CLOSE. MR WIENER. WE SPOKE LAST
03:37:05.178 --> 03:37:09.583
NIGHT. CHAIRS. RECOMMEND I VOTE,
03:37:09.649 --> 03:37:13.587
TAKE A ROLE. AN SD 4 67 BY
03:37:13.653 --> 03:37:15.155
SENATOR READER. THE MOTION IS TO
03:37:15.222 --> 03:37:16.556
PASS TO THE APPROPRIATIONS
03:37:16.623 --> 03:37:19.226
COMMITTEE. JOAN SAWYER, BLACKIE
03:37:19.292 --> 03:37:23.163
BLACKIE, I BONTA. I, BRIAN.
03:37:23.230 --> 03:37:27.534
BRIAN I CORK I SANTIAGO SEYARTO
03:37:27.601 --> 03:37:30.137
TOÀN NOT VOTING. THEIR MAJOR
03:37:30.203 --> 03:37:36.042
PASSES. ITEM SB 836 WIENER
03:37:36.109 --> 03:37:38.678
EVIDENCE IMMIGRATION STATUS WITH
03:37:38.745 --> 03:37:39.980
AN URGENCY THIS ONE WILL BE
03:37:40.046 --> 03:37:41.148
QUITE BRIEF. MR CHAIRMAN. THIS
03:37:41.214 --> 03:37:42.883
COMMITTEE SAW THIS BILL A FEW
03:37:42.949 --> 03:37:45.685
YEARS AGO. AH AND THE BILL
03:37:45.752 --> 03:37:47.454
UNFORTUNATELY, EXPIRED AT THE
03:37:47.521 --> 03:37:49.823
END OF LAST YEAR, AND SO WE KNOW
03:37:49.890 --> 03:37:51.558
WANTING TO RENEW THE SUNSET.
03:37:51.625 --> 03:37:54.394
THIS BILL SIMPLY PROVIDES THAT
03:37:54.461 --> 03:37:56.129
I'M GONNA WITNESSES TESTIFYING
03:37:56.196 --> 03:37:58.965
IN COURT, THEY CANNOT BE ASKED
03:37:59.032 --> 03:38:00.434
ABOUT THEIR IMMIGRATION STATUS
03:38:00.500 --> 03:38:01.935
UNLESS THE ATTORNEY FIRST
03:38:02.002 --> 03:38:03.603
APPROACHES THE JUDGE AND MAKES
03:38:03.670 --> 03:38:04.838
HER SHOWING THAT THE IMMIGRATION
03:38:04.905 --> 03:38:07.974
STATUS IS ACTUALLY RELEVANT OR
03:38:08.041 --> 03:38:09.676
WHAT THE BILL TRIES TO AVOID, IS
03:38:09.743 --> 03:38:11.111
, UM IMMIGRANTS, FEARING THAT IF
03:38:11.178 --> 03:38:13.480
THEY GO TO COURT THEY'RE GOING
03:38:13.547 --> 03:38:13.980
TO GET ASKED IRRELEVANT
03:38:14.047 --> 03:38:14.448
QUESTIONS ABOUT THEIR
03:38:14.514 --> 03:38:16.450
IMMIGRATION STATUS THAT THEY MAY
03:38:16.516 --> 03:38:17.951
GET DEPORTED. AND SO THEREFORE
03:38:18.018 --> 03:38:19.786
THEY WILL NOT SHOW UP IN COURT,
03:38:19.853 --> 03:38:21.254
WHICH MAKES US ALL LESS SAFE. SO
03:38:21.321 --> 03:38:24.591
THIS BILL, UM IS I WISH WE HAD
03:38:24.658 --> 03:38:26.760
DONE IT LAST YEAR BEFORE IT
03:38:26.827 --> 03:38:27.761
EXPIRED, BUT BETTER LATE THAN
03:38:27.828 --> 03:38:29.062
NEVER, AND I RESPECTFULLY ASK
03:38:29.129 --> 03:38:31.698
FOR AN I VOTE WITH ME TODAY. IS
03:38:31.765 --> 03:38:33.133
DAN PHIL ASADA FROM THE L. A. D
03:38:33.200 --> 03:38:34.935
A S OFFICE, ONE OF OUR CO
03:38:35.001 --> 03:38:37.170
SPONSORS. YES. AS THE CHAIRMAN
03:38:37.237 --> 03:38:38.104
MEMBERS DANVILLE ASSAULT ON
03:38:38.171 --> 03:38:40.173
BEHALF OF THE LOS ANGELES COUNTY
03:38:40.240 --> 03:38:41.808
DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HAPPY
03:38:41.875 --> 03:38:42.509
TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THE
03:38:42.576 --> 03:38:43.944
COMMITTEE MAY HAVE. THANK YOU,
03:38:44.010 --> 03:38:45.779
SIR. UH, ANY WITNESSES AND
03:38:45.846 --> 03:38:49.616
SUPPORT NATASHA MINSK REFER THE
03:38:49.683 --> 03:38:50.116
PROSECUTORS ALLIANCE OF
03:38:50.183 --> 03:38:53.420
CALIFORNIA AND STRONG SUPPORT.
03:38:53.487 --> 03:38:55.021
RITA MANDINA COALITION FOR
03:38:55.088 --> 03:38:56.656
HUMANE IMMIGRANT RIGHTS CHEERED
03:38:56.723 --> 03:39:00.193
UP PROUD, COSPONSOR AND SUPPORT.
03:39:00.260 --> 03:39:01.528
ATTACK ALLEN, LEGISLATIVE CHAIR
03:39:01.595 --> 03:39:02.629
FOR THE CALIFORNIA DEMOCRATIC
03:39:02.696 --> 03:39:04.197
PARTY, BLACK CAUCUS AND FULL
03:39:04.264 --> 03:39:06.967
SUPPORT. AND LITTLE CALIFORNIA
03:39:07.033 --> 03:39:08.668
FOR SAFETY AND JUSTICE AND
03:39:08.735 --> 03:39:11.404
SUPPORT. NOW GO TO THE PHONE
03:39:11.471 --> 03:39:12.873
LINES. WITNESSES IN SUPPORT ON
03:39:12.939 --> 03:39:18.845
SB 836 WIENER. QUÊ APPEAR IN
03:39:18.912 --> 03:39:20.780
SUPPORT. YOU MAY PRESS ONE AND
03:39:20.847 --> 03:39:22.816
THEN ZERO. AGAIN THAT IS ONE IN
03:39:22.883 --> 03:39:26.653
THEN ZERO FAIR AND SUPPORT. WE
03:39:26.720 --> 03:39:28.755
WILL GO TO LINE 1 11. YOUR LINE
03:39:28.822 --> 03:39:32.092
IS OPEN. PLEASE GO AHEAD. A GOOD
03:39:32.158 --> 03:39:33.660
AFTERNOON, REBECA GONZALEZ WITH
03:39:33.727 --> 03:39:35.095
THE NATIONALISTS ASSOCIATION OF
03:39:35.161 --> 03:39:36.062
SOCIAL WORKERS, CALIFORNIA
03:39:36.129 --> 03:39:41.134
CHAPTER AND SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
03:39:41.201 --> 03:39:43.203
NEXT WE'LL GO TO LINE 1 25. YOUR
03:39:43.270 --> 03:39:46.540
LINE IS OPEN. GOOD AFTERNOON, MR
03:39:46.606 --> 03:39:48.108
CHAIR AND MEMBERS GREGORY CRAMER
03:39:48.174 --> 03:39:49.943
ON BEHALF OF DISABILITY RIGHTS,
03:39:50.010 --> 03:39:51.545
CALIFORNIA IN SUPPORT OF SB 8,
03:39:51.611 --> 03:39:56.650
36. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT,
03:39:56.716 --> 03:39:58.919
WE'LL GO TO LINE 38. YOUR LINE
03:39:58.985 --> 03:40:03.256
IS OPEN. PLEASE GO AHEAD. ONE
03:40:03.323 --> 03:40:07.394
MOMENT HERE. YES. NAME AND
03:40:07.460 --> 03:40:12.599
ORGANIZATION. LINE 38. YOUR LINE
03:40:12.666 --> 03:40:15.168
IS OPEN. PLEASE GO AHEAD. THANK
03:40:15.235 --> 03:40:16.436
YOU. OOD AFTERNOON. CHAIR
03:40:16.503 --> 03:40:17.837
MEMBERS. MY NAME IS KEN WANG.
03:40:17.904 --> 03:40:19.406
I'M NOT TESTIFYING ON BEHALF OF
03:40:19.472 --> 03:40:20.907
CALIFORNIA EMPLOYMENT LAWYERS
03:40:20.974 --> 03:40:22.309
ASSOCIATION AS WELL AS THE
03:40:22.375 --> 03:40:23.777
FOLLOWING LIST OF ORGANIZATIONS
03:40:23.843 --> 03:40:25.045
LEGAL AID AT WORK, LOS ANGELES
03:40:25.111 --> 03:40:26.046
COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S
03:40:26.112 --> 03:40:27.948
OFFICE. LET'S GO. DISTRICT
03:40:28.014 --> 03:40:29.783
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE ASIAN AMERICAN
03:40:29.849 --> 03:40:31.418
ADVANCINGJUSTICE CALIFORNIA,
03:40:31.484 --> 03:40:32.786
CALIFORNIA IMMIGRANT POLICY
03:40:32.852 --> 03:40:34.454
CENTER, CALIFORNIA PARTNERSHIP
03:40:34.521 --> 03:40:35.622
TO END DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
03:40:35.689 --> 03:40:36.489
CALIFORNIA RURAL LEGAL
03:40:36.556 --> 03:40:38.658
ASSISTANCE FOUNDATION INC.
03:40:38.725 --> 03:40:40.093
WONDERFUL WORKERS, RIGHT?
03:40:40.160 --> 03:40:41.995
CENTROLEGAL DELYLAH HASTA ELLA
03:40:42.062 --> 03:40:43.496
BAKER CENTER FOR HUMAN RIGHTS,
03:40:43.563 --> 03:40:44.731
EQUAL RIGHTS ADVOCATE FAMILY
03:40:44.798 --> 03:40:45.899
BALANCE AT THE APPELLATE
03:40:45.966 --> 03:40:49.302
PROJECT. FRIENDS COMMITTEE ON
03:40:49.369 --> 03:40:50.904
LEGISLATION OF CALIFORNIA
03:40:50.971 --> 03:40:53.273
CENTRALCALLEGAL OAKLAND PRIVACY
03:40:53.340 --> 03:40:55.408
. PICO CALIFORNIA PROSECUTORS
03:40:55.475 --> 03:40:57.077
ALLIANCE OF CALIFORNIA SAN DIEGO
03:40:57.143 --> 03:40:59.012
COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S
03:40:59.079 --> 03:40:59.980
OFFICE. YOU SEE HASTINGS
03:41:00.046 --> 03:41:00.947
COMMUNITY JUSTICE CLINIC. AND
03:41:01.014 --> 03:41:02.115
THE WAREHOUSE WORKER RESOURCE
03:41:02.182 --> 03:41:08.188
CENTER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE
03:41:08.254 --> 03:41:10.924
HAVE ONE. I'M SORRY. WE HAVE ONE
03:41:10.991 --> 03:41:12.892
MORE IN Q ONE MOMENT, PLEASE.
03:41:12.959 --> 03:41:13.960
WE'RE JUST GIVING THEIR LINE
03:41:14.027 --> 03:41:20.634
NUMBER. AGAIN AS A REMINDER. WE
03:41:20.700 --> 03:41:22.102
ARE IN SUPPORT. YOU MAY PRESS
03:41:22.168 --> 03:41:29.009
ONE AND THEN ZERO. WE'LL GO TO
03:41:29.075 --> 03:41:33.413
LINE 1 28. YOUR LINE IS OPEN.
03:41:33.480 --> 03:41:35.215
HELLO THIS IS BRIANNA ZAVALA
03:41:35.281 --> 03:41:36.750
CALLING ON BEHALF OF SUMMER,
03:41:36.816 --> 03:41:38.218
SECOND FROM THE MANUAL COUNTY
03:41:38.284 --> 03:41:40.153
DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. WE
03:41:40.220 --> 03:41:41.388
ARE IN SUPPORT OF SB 836. THANK
03:41:41.454 --> 03:41:46.593
YOU. AGAIN. WE HAVE NO FURTHER
03:41:46.660 --> 03:41:49.462
SUPPORTING QUÊ AT THIS TIME. NOW
03:41:49.529 --> 03:41:50.997
WE'RE LISTENING TO OPPOSITION TO
03:41:51.064 --> 03:41:54.434
SB 836 OR ANYTHING IN THE ROOM.
03:41:54.501 --> 03:41:57.537
CNN WHEN I GO TO OPERATE A T AND
03:41:57.604 --> 03:41:58.705
T AND HE WITNESSES AN OPPOSITION
03:41:58.772 --> 03:42:03.910
TO SB 836 WIENER. FOR OPPOSITION
03:42:03.977 --> 03:42:13.787
TO 836, PLEASE PRESS 10. MR
03:42:13.853 --> 03:42:14.320
CHAIR. THERE'S NO ONE IN
03:42:14.387 --> 03:42:17.524
OPPOSITION TO 8 36 BRINGING BACK
03:42:17.590 --> 03:42:19.059
TO THE COMMITTEE AND I THINK WE
03:42:19.125 --> 03:42:22.929
HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. YOU.
03:42:22.996 --> 03:42:24.731
WHAT I THOUGHT MR QUIRT, MR
03:42:24.798 --> 03:42:32.639
CORK, MOVED. A 2ND 2ND. YEAH.
03:42:32.706 --> 03:42:40.213
YEAH. COLORADO OH, DID YOU WANT
03:42:40.280 --> 03:42:41.715
TO CLOSE? I'M SORRY. OF THE
03:42:41.781 --> 03:42:46.186
WORLD. ON SB 836 BY SENATOR
03:42:46.252 --> 03:42:47.153
WIENER. THE MOTION IS DUE
03:42:47.220 --> 03:42:48.588
PASTURE THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE
03:42:48.655 --> 03:42:52.192
JOHN SAWYER. I LACKEY A LACKEY
03:42:52.258 --> 03:42:56.429
ABSTAIN. BANTA BANTA, I, BRIAN.
03:42:56.496 --> 03:42:59.399
HI BRIAN. I QUIRK EYES SANTIAGO.
03:42:59.466 --> 03:43:02.569
SEYARTO SEYARTO NOT VOTING THAT
03:43:02.635 --> 03:43:06.639
MEASURE. I NEED ONE MORE. AND
03:43:06.706 --> 03:43:10.043
THEN THE LAST ONE SB 11. OH SIX
03:43:10.110 --> 03:43:11.144
WIENER CRIMINALS RE SENTENCING
03:43:11.211 --> 03:43:14.447
RESTITUTION. THANK YOU ONE MORE
03:43:14.514 --> 03:43:16.015
. AND THEN I'M OUT OF YOUR HAIR.
03:43:16.082 --> 03:43:18.952
MR. UM SO, COLLEAGUES, THIS BILL
03:43:19.018 --> 03:43:21.654
, UM WE WILL, UM, AND THE
03:43:21.721 --> 03:43:23.456
PRACTICE THAT IS REALLY HARMING
03:43:23.523 --> 03:43:25.525
PEOPLE WHO HAVE COMPLETED THEIR
03:43:25.592 --> 03:43:26.893
SENTENCE AND ARE TRYING TO
03:43:26.960 --> 03:43:28.461
REINTEGRATE INTO SOCIETY.
03:43:28.528 --> 03:43:30.530
INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE OTHER WHO
03:43:30.597 --> 03:43:32.899
ARE ELIGIBLE FOR RECORD CLEARING
03:43:32.966 --> 03:43:33.933
FOR EXPUNGEMENT OF THEIR
03:43:34.000 --> 03:43:35.068
RECORDS, BUT BECAUSE OF UNPAID
03:43:35.135 --> 03:43:38.972
RESTITUTION. THEY ARE. THERE ARE
03:43:39.038 --> 03:43:41.007
JUDGES WHO ARE BARRING THEM FROM
03:43:41.074 --> 03:43:42.742
CLEARING THEIR RECORDS JUST TO
03:43:42.809 --> 03:43:43.943
BE CLEAR. THIS BILL DOES NOT.
03:43:44.010 --> 03:43:46.446
ANYWAY, WE DEUCE OR ELIMINATE
03:43:46.513 --> 03:43:47.747
THEIR THE RESTITUTION THAT THEY
03:43:47.814 --> 03:43:49.716
OWED. THAT IS A SEPARATE LAW.
03:43:49.783 --> 03:43:52.018
SEPARATE DISCUSSION. BUT WE WANT
03:43:52.085 --> 03:43:54.821
TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN SOMEONE
03:43:54.888 --> 03:43:55.588
IS TRYING TO RE ENTER SOCIETY,
03:43:55.655 --> 03:43:56.222
WE GIVE THEM EVERY OPPORTUNITY
03:43:56.289 --> 03:43:58.191
TO DO SO AND WHEN THEY CAN'T
03:43:58.258 --> 03:43:59.893
CLEAR THE RECORD BECAUSE THEY
03:43:59.959 --> 03:44:01.995
HAVE UNPAID RESTITUTION AND
03:44:02.061 --> 03:44:03.763
THEY'RE POOR, AND SO THEY'RE NOT
03:44:03.830 --> 03:44:05.832
GOING TO BE ABLE TO PAY IT. WE
03:44:05.899 --> 03:44:07.400
CREATE A VICIOUS CYCLE WHERE
03:44:07.467 --> 03:44:08.168
THEY'RE GOING TO NOT GOING TO
03:44:08.234 --> 03:44:09.669
HAVE STABLE HOUSING, NOT GOING
03:44:09.736 --> 03:44:11.604
TO HAVE A GOOD JOB, AND IT WILL
03:44:11.671 --> 03:44:13.406
MAKE IT EVEN LESS LIKELY THAT
03:44:13.473 --> 03:44:15.441
THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO PAY
03:44:15.508 --> 03:44:16.509
THAT RESTITUTION. SO THIS IS A
03:44:16.576 --> 03:44:18.444
LONG OVERDUE REFORM. I WANT TO
03:44:18.511 --> 03:44:19.379
ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE CHAIR IS
03:44:19.445 --> 03:44:20.246
ALSO WORKING IN THIS SPACE AND
03:44:20.313 --> 03:44:22.582
WE'RE GONNA AS WE PROCEED. MAKE
03:44:22.649 --> 03:44:23.750
SURE TO HARMONIZE OUR BILLS. WE
03:44:23.817 --> 03:44:25.552
BOTH HAVE EXACTLY THE SAME GOAL
03:44:25.618 --> 03:44:27.053
AND I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN I
03:44:27.120 --> 03:44:28.221
VOTE. AND WITH ME TODAY IT
03:44:28.288 --> 03:44:29.422
TESTIFY AS KHALIL FERGUSON WITH
03:44:29.489 --> 03:44:31.758
UNITED CORE ALLIANCE. GOOD
03:44:31.825 --> 03:44:33.059
AFTERNOON. THANK YOU. MR CHAIR
03:44:33.126 --> 03:44:34.294
AND COMMITTEE. MY NAME IS
03:44:34.360 --> 03:44:35.495
COLONEL FERGUSON, PRESIDENT FOR
03:44:35.562 --> 03:44:37.163
NOT A CORE ALLIANCE. THEY'RE NOT
03:44:37.230 --> 03:44:38.765
A CORAL LINES WAS CREATED TO
03:44:38.832 --> 03:44:39.332
REPRESENT THE INTERESTS OF
03:44:39.399 --> 03:44:40.967
CANNABIS EQUITY BUSINESSES AND
03:44:41.034 --> 03:44:42.135
EQUITY MEMBERS IN THE POLICY
03:44:42.202 --> 03:44:43.102
ENVIRONMENT WILL ALSO PROVIDING
03:44:43.169 --> 03:44:44.003
ACTS PERFECT ACCESS TO
03:44:44.070 --> 03:44:46.005
PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AND AH
03:44:46.072 --> 03:44:46.940
AUGMENT ENTREPRENEURIAL AND
03:44:47.006 --> 03:44:49.976
WORKFORCE SKILLS. THE CIA IS
03:44:50.043 --> 03:44:51.711
ALSO A MEMBER OF THE JUSTICE
03:44:51.778 --> 03:44:52.445
JOBS COALITION, WHICH IS
03:44:52.512 --> 03:44:54.480
COMPRISED OF ECONOMIC AND LEGAL
03:44:54.547 --> 03:44:55.081
JUSTICE ADVOCATES, SUCH AS THE
03:44:55.148 --> 03:44:55.949
SACRAMENTO COUNTY PUBLIC
03:44:56.015 --> 03:44:57.450
DEFENDER'S OFFICE LEGAL SERVICES
03:44:57.517 --> 03:44:58.751
IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA AND
03:44:58.818 --> 03:44:59.752
SACRAMENTO JUSTICE LEAGUE AND
03:44:59.819 --> 03:45:02.956
MORE IN 2020. THE <c.cyan>/C A BEGAN</c>
03:45:03.022 --> 03:45:04.390
THE OAK PARK MONTHLY EXPUNGEMENT
03:45:04.457 --> 03:45:06.025
CLINIC. AS A PART OF THIS
03:45:06.092 --> 03:45:07.493
EFFORT. WE BEGAN COLLECTING DATA
03:45:07.560 --> 03:45:08.928
ON RESTITUTION BALANCES AND 2021
03:45:08.995 --> 03:45:10.530
. WE RECEIVED 142 RESPONDENTS TO
03:45:10.597 --> 03:45:11.431
OUR REGISTRATION OUTREACH
03:45:11.497 --> 03:45:13.900
SURVEY. 48 OF WHOM RESPONDENTS
03:45:13.967 --> 03:45:15.568
HAVING A POSITION SORRY. HAVING
03:45:15.635 --> 03:45:16.302
A RESTITUTION BALANCE OWED
03:45:16.369 --> 03:45:19.672
REPRESENTING 34% OF RESPONDENTS.
03:45:19.739 --> 03:45:20.673
PARTICIPANT RESOLUTION BALANCES
03:45:20.740 --> 03:45:21.708
RANGE BETWEEN ZERO AND
03:45:21.774 --> 03:45:23.910
$20,000.80 PERCENT OF CLIENTS
03:45:23.977 --> 03:45:25.278
WHO SOUGHT OUR EXPENDITURE
03:45:25.345 --> 03:45:26.212
SERVICES HAD DRUG RELATED OR
03:45:26.279 --> 03:45:27.413
PETTY THEFT CONVICTIONS, WHICH
03:45:27.480 --> 03:45:29.182
THEY WERE SEEKING TO EXPUNGED. I
03:45:29.249 --> 03:45:30.617
NOTE THAT MANY CONVICTIONS
03:45:30.683 --> 03:45:31.751
PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY HAVE
03:45:31.818 --> 03:45:33.419
SOUGHT ARE STILL NOT ELIGIBLE
03:45:33.486 --> 03:45:34.921
FOR EXPUNGEMENT OF ANY KIND AND
03:45:34.988 --> 03:45:35.955
REQUIRE A CERTIFICATE OF
03:45:36.022 --> 03:45:36.456
REHABILITATION FROM THE
03:45:36.522 --> 03:45:38.925
GOVERNOR'S OFFICE. WHEN
03:45:38.992 --> 03:45:39.492
CONDUCTING INTERVIEWS WITH
03:45:39.559 --> 03:45:40.927
EXPUNGEMENT CLIENTS. THE COMMON
03:45:40.994 --> 03:45:42.562
PURPOSE FOR SEEKING EXPUNGEMENT
03:45:42.629 --> 03:45:43.963
EITHER IS ONE AND PREPARATION
03:45:44.030 --> 03:45:46.232
FOR APPLYING FOR A JOB, A BETTER
03:45:46.299 --> 03:45:48.134
PAYING JOB OR SOMETHING. A JOB
03:45:48.201 --> 03:45:49.702
OFFER OR TWO THEY HAVE ALREADY
03:45:49.769 --> 03:45:51.504
BEEN DIG NAYDA JOB DUE TO
03:45:51.571 --> 03:45:53.239
POSSESSING A CRIMINAL RECORD. AN
03:45:53.306 --> 03:45:54.707
ECONOMIC IMPACT FORECAST
03:45:54.774 --> 03:45:56.709
ANALYSIS BY THE JUSTICE JOBS
03:45:56.776 --> 03:45:57.677
COALITION ESTIMATES THAT IF 100
03:45:57.744 --> 03:46:00.313
PEOPLE AT THE INCOME OF $10,000
03:46:00.380 --> 03:46:02.215
COMPLETED AND EXPUNGEMENT AND
03:46:02.282 --> 03:46:04.284
THIS NOW $150,000 PER YEAR WOULD
03:46:04.350 --> 03:46:05.852
BE CIRCULATED THROUGHOUT THE
03:46:05.919 --> 03:46:06.920
NEIGHBORHOOD AND REGION IN THE
03:46:06.986 --> 03:46:08.187
FORM OF HOUSING PAYMENTS. FOOD
03:46:08.254 --> 03:46:10.423
EXPENSES, TRANSPORTATION COSTS
03:46:10.490 --> 03:46:11.524
AND HEALTH CARE COSTS AND
03:46:11.591 --> 03:46:12.525
MAXIMIZE PREVENTATIVE HEALTH AND
03:46:12.592 --> 03:46:14.594
FAMILY CARE. I WILL ALSO NOTE
03:46:14.661 --> 03:46:16.095
THAT THERE IS NO DATA WHATSOEVER
03:46:16.162 --> 03:46:17.630
THAT DENYING SOMEONE ACCESS TO
03:46:17.697 --> 03:46:18.998
CRIMINAL RECORD RELIEF MAKES IT
03:46:19.065 --> 03:46:20.433
MORE LIKELY THAT THEY WILL PAY
03:46:20.500 --> 03:46:22.001
AN OUTSTANDING RESTITUTION,
03:46:22.068 --> 03:46:23.670
FINES OR FEES, BUT IT'S COMMON
03:46:23.736 --> 03:46:25.071
SENSE THAT IT MAKES IT MORE
03:46:25.138 --> 03:46:26.673
DIFFICULT TO DO SO, SINCE THERE
03:46:26.739 --> 03:46:28.408
IS A DIRECT CORRELATION BETWEEN
03:46:28.474 --> 03:46:29.042
CRIMINAL RECORDS AND EMPLOYMENT.
03:46:29.108 --> 03:46:30.443
TESTIMONIES FROM OUR EXPUNGEMENT
03:46:30.510 --> 03:46:31.911
CLIENTS ALSO SUBSTANTIATE THAT
03:46:31.978 --> 03:46:33.680
THERE IS NO MERIT TO THE CLAIM
03:46:33.746 --> 03:46:34.781
THAT DENYING A PERSON'S
03:46:34.847 --> 03:46:36.049
EXPUNGEMENT WOULD INCREASE THE
03:46:36.115 --> 03:46:37.817
RATE OF RATE OF COLLECTION FOR
03:46:37.884 --> 03:46:38.384
RESTITUTION. FINES. AND THE
03:46:38.451 --> 03:46:39.485
TRENDS AND DATA HIGHLIGHTED
03:46:39.552 --> 03:46:40.820
ABOVE IS FURTHER SUPPORTED BY
03:46:40.887 --> 03:46:42.188
EXPERTISE FROM PUBLIC DEFENDER
03:46:42.255 --> 03:46:43.656
OFFICES THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF
03:46:43.723 --> 03:46:45.224
CALIFORNIA. ND THIS IS WHY THE
03:46:45.291 --> 03:46:46.292
CIA IS A STRONG SUPPORTER AND CO
03:46:46.359 --> 03:46:48.161
SPONSOR OF THIS BILL. THANK YOU
03:46:48.227 --> 03:46:50.563
ANY WITNESSES AND SUPPORT NAME
03:46:50.630 --> 03:46:51.497
ORGANIZATION NATASHA MINSK OR
03:46:51.564 --> 03:46:52.598
SMART JUSTICE, CALIFORNIA AND
03:46:52.665 --> 03:46:58.037
SUPPORT. LITTLE ON BEHALF OF
03:46:58.104 --> 03:46:59.472
CALIFORNIA'S FOR SAFETY AND
03:46:59.539 --> 03:47:00.340
JUSTICE, PROPER CO SPONSOR AND
03:47:00.406 --> 03:47:02.108
SUPPORT AND TIME DONE IN
03:47:02.175 --> 03:47:07.547
SUPPORT. GOOD AFTERNOON, KYRA
03:47:07.613 --> 03:47:09.082
WALKING ON BEHALF OF THE CITY
03:47:09.148 --> 03:47:10.984
AND COUNTY OF SAN FRANCISCO, AS
03:47:11.050 --> 03:47:12.719
WELL AS THE MAYOR OF LONDON.
03:47:12.785 --> 03:47:13.786
BREED AND SUPPORT. THANK YOU
03:47:13.853 --> 03:47:16.789
VERY MUCH. GOOD AFTERNOON, SARAH
03:47:16.856 --> 03:47:18.291
RIGNEY ON BEHALF OF INITIATE
03:47:18.358 --> 03:47:20.159
JUSTICE, PROUD, CLOSE SPONSOR AS
03:47:20.226 --> 03:47:21.527
WELL AS READING SUPPORT FOR
03:47:21.594 --> 03:47:23.096
PUBLIC COUNCIL ROUTE AND REBOUND
03:47:23.162 --> 03:47:24.564
. RUBICON PROGRAMS. SAN
03:47:24.630 --> 03:47:25.231
FRANCISCO FINANCIAL JUSTICE
03:47:25.298 --> 03:47:26.299
PROJECT AND UNCOMMON LAW. THANK
03:47:26.366 --> 03:47:31.270
YOU. GOOD MORNING TUCK ALLEN,
03:47:31.337 --> 03:47:33.039
REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE CDP BLACK
03:47:33.106 --> 03:47:34.540
CAUCUS AND STRONG SUPPORT, AS
03:47:34.607 --> 03:47:35.875
WELL AS THE CONGRESS OF RACIAL
03:47:35.942 --> 03:47:36.943
EQUALITY AND INTERNATIONAL FAITH
03:47:37.010 --> 03:47:40.813
BASED COALITION. DANIKA ROAD,
03:47:40.880 --> 03:47:43.082
ARMEL ON BEHALF OF THE INSIGHT
03:47:43.149 --> 03:47:44.183
CENTER FOR COMMUNITY ECONOMIC
03:47:44.250 --> 03:47:45.852
DEVELOPMENT LAWYERS COMMITTEE
03:47:45.918 --> 03:47:47.186
FOR CIVIL RIGHTS OF THE SAN
03:47:47.253 --> 03:47:49.555
FRANCISCO BAY AREA SUPPORT ON BEHALF OF
03:47:49.622 --> 03:47:51.391
ALAMEDA COUNTY PUBLIC DEFENDER
03:47:51.457 --> 03:47:53.159
CALIFORNIA, INDIVISIBLE STATE
03:47:53.226 --> 03:47:54.794
STRONG COMMUNITIES UNITED FOR
03:47:54.861 --> 03:47:56.396
RESTORATIVE YOUTH JUSTICE AND
03:47:56.462 --> 03:47:57.497
COMMUNITY LEGAL SERVICES IN THE
03:47:57.563 --> 03:48:01.701
EAST PALO ALTO. GOOD AFTERNOON.
03:48:01.768 --> 03:48:03.302
GOING BACK IS FOR ELLA BAKER
03:48:03.369 --> 03:48:04.237
CENTER AND SUPPORT SHORT LIST OF
03:48:04.303 --> 03:48:06.339
SUPPORTERS INCLUDE JUSTICE FOR
03:48:06.406 --> 03:48:07.173
JOBS. COALITION LAWYERS
03:48:07.240 --> 03:48:08.508
COMMITTEE FOR CIVIL RIGHTS. SAN
03:48:08.574 --> 03:48:09.575
FRANCISCO LEGAL SERVICES FOR
03:48:09.642 --> 03:48:12.545
PRISONERS WITH CHILDREN. MENTAL
03:48:12.612 --> 03:48:13.479
HEALTH ADVOCACY SERVICES,
03:48:13.546 --> 03:48:15.114
NATIONAL CONSUMER LAW CENTER AND
03:48:15.181 --> 03:48:16.215
POLICY LINK. THANK YOU. THANK
03:48:16.282 --> 03:48:19.218
YOU. UH THAT WILL GO TO THE
03:48:19.285 --> 03:48:21.687
PHONE LINES AND HE WITNESSES IN
03:48:21.754 --> 03:48:22.755
SUPPORT OF SB 11. OH, SIX
03:48:22.822 --> 03:48:26.426
WIENER. OPERATOR OPENED UP LINE.
03:48:26.492 --> 03:48:30.296
FOR SB 11. OH, SIX. IN FAVOR.
03:48:30.363 --> 03:48:34.767
LINE. 88, PLEASE GO AHEAD. CHAIR
03:48:34.834 --> 03:48:36.702
MEMBERS CATALINA SANCHEZ WITH
03:48:36.769 --> 03:48:38.271
CORBETT AND KAISER ON BEHALF OF
03:48:38.337 --> 03:48:39.705
THE CALIFORNIA LOW INCOME
03:48:39.772 --> 03:48:41.607
CONSUMER COALITION. AND THE
03:48:41.674 --> 03:48:42.742
NATIONAL CONSUMER LAW CENTER AND
03:48:42.809 --> 03:48:46.779
SUPPORT THANK YOU. LINE 111,
03:48:46.846 --> 03:48:51.918
PLEASE GO AHEAD. REBECA GONZALEZ
03:48:51.984 --> 03:48:53.753
FOR THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF
03:48:53.820 --> 03:48:54.687
SOCIAL WORKERS, CALIFORNIA
03:48:54.754 --> 03:48:58.791
CHAPTER IN SUPPORT. LINE. 129,
03:48:58.858 --> 03:49:04.464
PLEASE GO AHEAD. JIM LINDBERG ON
03:49:04.530 --> 03:49:06.232
BEHALF OF THE FRIENDS COMMITTEE
03:49:06.299 --> 03:49:07.300
ON LEGISLATION OF CALIFORNIA IN
03:49:07.366 --> 03:49:12.705
SUPPORT. BLAINE 11, PLEASE GO
03:49:12.772 --> 03:49:21.147
AHEAD. LINE 11. YOUR LINE IS
03:49:21.214 --> 03:49:30.022
OPEN. MOVING ON TO LINE 132.
03:49:30.089 --> 03:49:34.160
PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD AFTERNOON
03:49:34.227 --> 03:49:35.461
, MR. CHAIR MALIK BYNUM WITH
03:49:35.528 --> 03:49:37.130
UNITED DOMESTIC WORKERS ASKED ME
03:49:37.196 --> 03:49:38.364
LOCAL 39 30 HERE IN SUPPORT.
03:49:38.431 --> 03:49:42.034
THANK YOU. LINE. 130, PLEASE GO
03:49:42.101 --> 03:49:47.673
AHEAD. GOOD AFTERNOON. THIS IS
03:49:47.740 --> 03:49:49.542
PAUL BRILEY ON BEHALF OF ALL OF
03:49:49.609 --> 03:49:51.110
US, AND NONE IN LEGAL SERVICES
03:49:51.177 --> 03:49:51.944
FOR PRISONERS WITH CHILDREN AND
03:49:52.011 --> 03:49:55.882
STRONG SUPPORT. IN LINE 11,
03:49:55.948 --> 03:50:00.853
PLEASE GO AHEAD. MARCO GEORGE ON
03:50:00.920 --> 03:50:02.555
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC
03:50:02.622 --> 03:50:03.422
DEFENDERS ASSOCIATION IN
03:50:03.489 --> 03:50:07.860
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. LINE 126,
03:50:07.927 --> 03:50:12.298
PLEASE GO AHEAD. AGAIN WHAT I
03:50:12.365 --> 03:50:17.436
SEE JUSTICE GROUP AND SUPPORT.
03:50:17.503 --> 03:50:19.071
THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. THERE'S NO
03:50:19.138 --> 03:50:20.740
ONE ELSE IN THE SUPPORT QUÊ. NOW
03:50:20.806 --> 03:50:22.441
WE'LL GO TO WITNESSES AND
03:50:22.508 --> 03:50:25.578
OPPOSITION. THE NUN IN THE ROOM.
03:50:25.645 --> 03:50:26.546
WE'RE NOT GOING TO PHONE LINES
03:50:26.612 --> 03:50:28.414
WITH THIS IS AN OPPOSITION TO SB
03:50:28.481 --> 03:50:36.722
11. OH, SIX WIENER. FOR
03:50:36.789 --> 03:50:37.890
OPPOSITION TO 11 06, PLEASE
03:50:37.957 --> 03:50:46.299
PRESS ONE AND ZERO. THERE ARE NO
03:50:46.365 --> 03:50:47.800
WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION FROM
03:50:47.867 --> 03:50:49.802
THE PHONE'S RINGING BACK TO
03:50:49.869 --> 03:50:50.803
COMMITTEE FOR ANY QUESTIONS,
03:50:50.870 --> 03:50:55.408
COMMENTS. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING
03:50:55.474 --> 03:50:56.676
FORWARD THIS BILL AS WELL AS THE
03:50:56.742 --> 03:50:58.578
OTHERS THAT YOU HAVE. IT'S BEEN
03:50:58.644 --> 03:51:00.179
A I'VE BEEN LOOKING FORWARD TO
03:51:00.246 --> 03:51:01.280
HEARING FROM YOU IN THIS
03:51:01.347 --> 03:51:04.283
CAPACITY. I'LL MOVE THE BILL.
03:51:04.350 --> 03:51:05.484
SORRY BUT MOVED TO SECOND. I
03:51:05.551 --> 03:51:08.287
WILL. SECOND THE BILL. YOU MAY
03:51:08.354 --> 03:51:13.759
CLOSE VOTE. CALLED THE RULE. ON
03:51:13.826 --> 03:51:16.495
SB 11 6 BY SENATOR WIENER. THE
03:51:16.562 --> 03:51:18.231
MOTION IS DUE PASS JOHN SAWYER.
03:51:18.297 --> 03:51:21.434
JOHN SAWYER. I LACKEY LACKEY. NO
03:51:21.500 --> 03:51:26.305
BANTA I II BRIAN. BRIAN I QUIRK
03:51:26.372 --> 03:51:28.407
. QUIRK EYES SANTIAGO SANTIAGO I
03:51:28.474 --> 03:51:31.944
CR TWO CR TWO. NO MEASURE
03:51:32.011 --> 03:51:34.413
PASSAGE. THAT WAS OVER. ON THE
03:51:34.480 --> 03:51:39.051
ADD ON. TAKE SOME OF YOU HAVE
03:51:39.118 --> 03:51:41.520
BEEN HERE THROUGH THE WHOLE. ON
03:51:41.587 --> 03:51:42.822
THE CONSENT CALENDAR. SANTIAGO
03:51:42.888 --> 03:51:49.061
SANTIAGO AYE. ITEM NUMBER ONE SB
03:51:49.128 --> 03:51:50.963
300 BY SENATOR CURTIS THE THIS
03:51:51.030 --> 03:51:53.432
MEASURE IS ON CALL SANTIAGO
03:51:53.499 --> 03:51:57.536
SANTIAGO I THAT MEASURE PASSES.
03:51:57.603 --> 03:51:59.538
ITEM TWO IS NOT CONSENT ITEM
03:51:59.605 --> 03:52:00.773
THREE WAS ON CONSENT ITEM FOUR
03:52:00.840 --> 03:52:02.608
WAS ON CONSENT. ADAM, FIVE, WAS
03:52:02.675 --> 03:52:07.280
ON CONSENT. ITEM NUMBER SIX SP 9
03:52:07.346 --> 03:52:09.081
60 BY SENATOR SKINNER. THIS
03:52:09.148 --> 03:52:11.817
MEASURE WAS ON CALL SANTIAGO
03:52:11.884 --> 03:52:13.452
SANTIAGOI THAT MEASURE PASSES
03:52:13.519 --> 03:52:15.755
ITEM SEVEN WAS ON CONSENT. ITEM
03:52:15.821 --> 03:52:20.459
EIGHT WAS ON CONSENT. ITEM
03:52:20.526 --> 03:52:21.927
NUMBER NINE HAS BEEN DISPENSED
03:52:21.994 --> 03:52:25.698
WITH THAT PAST AS THE 57 ITEM
03:52:25.765 --> 03:52:28.668
NUMBER 10 SB 4 67 BY SENATOR
03:52:28.734 --> 03:52:36.075
WIENER SANTIAGO. SANTIAGO. AYE.
03:52:36.142 --> 03:52:38.744
ITEM 11. SB 836 BY SENATOR
03:52:38.811 --> 03:52:40.413
WIENER. THIS MEASURE WAS ON CALL
03:52:40.479 --> 03:52:42.114
SANTIAGO SANTIAGO I THAT MEASURE
03:52:42.181 --> 03:52:44.283
PASSES. AN ITEM 12 HAS BEEN
03:52:44.350 --> 03:52:48.354
DISPENSED WITH. THANK YOU. AND
03:52:48.421 --> 03:52:49.288
THAT CONCLUDES THE ASSEMBLY
03:52:49.355 --> 03:52:50.356
PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MEETING
03:52:50.423 --> 03:53:06.572
FOR TODAY.