NOW WE CAN GET THE PARTY
STARTED. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE
WERE GONNA ADJOURN A SORRY.
WE'RE GONNA START ASSEMBLING
NATURAL RULES AND NATURAL
RESOURCES COMMITTEE. FEW
REMINDERS TESTAMENT CAN BE
PROVIDED IN PERSON AND BY PHONE.
NUMBER FOR PHONE TESTIMONY IS
877692. IN THE ACCESS CODE IS
131544. THIS NUMBER IS ALSO
POSTED ON THE COMMITTEE'S
WEBSITE AND WILL APPEAR ON A
VIDEO FEED. WHAT'S THE PRIMARY
SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION WITNESS
HAS TESTIFIED. I WILL CALL FOR
ADDITIONAL TESTIMONY, STARTING
WITH ANY WITNESS HERE IN THE
ROOM, AND THEN WE'LL GO TO THE
PHONE LINES. WE HAVE FOUR
MEASURES ON THE AGENDA TODAY,
WITH TWO PROPOSED CONSENT ITEM
NUMBER THREE SB 45 PORTANTINO.
ITEM NUMBER FOUR SB 14 NINETIES
97 NATURAL RESOURCES AND WATER.
PLEASE ALSO NOTE THAT MR BENNETT
HAS BEEN APPOINTED TO FILL IN
FOR MISS GARCIA AND TASHA
BOERNER HORVATH HAS BEEN FILLED
IN THERE HAVE BEEN APPOINTED TO
REPLACE MR RIVAS, WHO IS ABSENT
TODAY. LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE OUR
FIRST AUTHOR HERE, UM, ESTABLISH
A ROLL FIRST. OR SOUTH KOREA.
FLORA HERE. FLORA. HERE. FLORA
HERE, BENNETT. BOERNER HORVATH.
BOERNER HORVATH HERE. FRIEDMAN
MATHIS MATHES HERE, MCCARTHY.
MERIT SUKI SUKI HERE SARTO
SEYARTO HERE, STONE. WOULD WOULD
HERE. THE QUORUM. THANK YOU GOT
A QUORUM? PRESENTING SB 3 96, MR
MAYS. THANK YOU. VICE CHAIR,
FLOOR AND MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE AND THANK YOU FOR
ALLOWING ME TO PRESENT SP 3 96
BY SENATOR DOLLY TO BEGIN. I'D
LIKE TO NOTE THAT WE WILL BE
ACCEPTING THE COMMITTEE
AMENDMENTS TODAY AND I WANT TO
THANK THE CHAIR RIVAS FOR THE DO
PASS AS AMENDED RECOMMENDATION
AS WELL AS OTHER COMMITTEE STAFF
WORK ON THIS IMPORTANT BILL. AS
MANY OF YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN
ENGAGED IN AND HAVE HELPED SHAPE
THE NUMBER OF THE MAJOR PIECES
OF LEGISLATION DEALING WITH
CATASTROPHIC WILDFIRES. THAT
BILL BEFORE YOU TODAY IS ANOTHER
PIECE TO HELP STRENGTHEN
CALIFORNIA'S WILDFIRE
RESILIENCE. IN THE LAST DECADE,
CALIFORNIA HAS SEEN SOME OF THE
MOST DESTRUCTIVE AND
UNIMAGINABLE WILDFIRES IN
HISTORY AND MANY OF WHICH HAVE
BEEN IGNITED DUE TO HAZARD TREES
COMING INTO CONTACT WITH
ELECTRICAL INFRASTRUCTURE.
CALIFORNIA UTILITIES HAVE
IDENTIFIED HUNDREDS OF HAZARD
TREES ANNUALLY THAT CANNOT BE
ABATED BECAUSE THEY'RE LOCATED
IN PRIVATE OR PUBLIC PROPERTY
WHERE THE UTILITY CANNOT UTILIZE
AN EASEMENT OR PERMISSION FROM
THE LANDOWNER. DUE TO THIS
UTILITIES CAN FACE LIABILITY FOR
A BEATING HAZARD TREES, EVEN
THOUGH THEY ARE REQUIRED TO BY
STATE LAW. SP 3 96 WILL ASSIST
IN THE TIMELY REMOVAL OF HAZARD
TREES THAT CAN IGNITE
CATASTROPHIC WILDFIRES WHILE
PROTECTING THE INTERESTS OF THE
LANDOWNER BY ENSURING NOTICE AND
AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD. THIS
BILL WILL REQUIRE THE PUC TO
CREATE STANDARDS FOR THE CONTENT
AND TYPE OF NOTICE THAT MUST BE
PROVIDED TO LANDOWNERS TO ACCESS
THE PROCESS CREATED BY SP 3 96,
RATHER THAN LEAVING THE NOTICE
UP TO THE UTILITY TO ADMINISTER
ON THEIR OWN. WITH THAT, LIKE TO
INTRODUCE BRANDON WITH PG 19,
TESTIFYING IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. BRANDON, BRANDON E.
BECKWITH, PACIFIC GAS AND
ELECTRIC. WE ARE THE SPONSOR OF
THE BILL. UM IN THE INTEREST OF
TIME TO NOT REPEAT EVERYTHING
THAT EMERGES, SAID THIS BILL IS
A PUBLIC SAFETY BILL. WE ARE
TRYING TO RESOLVE A LIABILITY
CONFLICT WHERE WE ARE REQUIRED
TO REMOVE WOOD ON PRIVATE
PROPERTY WHERE WE DO NOT HAVE
EASEMENTS, BUT WE ARE ALSO
LIABLE FOR DOING THE EXACT SAME
WORK WE ARE REQUIRED TO DO.
WE'RE TRYING TO CLARIFY THAT WE
ARE INTERESTED IN CLARIFYING.
ALSO THE NOTICE REVISIONS WOULD
GIVE TO THE LANDOWNER WHEN WE DO
ENTER THEIR PRIVATE PROPERTY. WE
WANT TO HAVE BETTER CLARITY
ABOUT WHAT TYPE OF PROCESS. THE
LANDOWNER HAS TO CHALLENGE OUR
WORK. ALL OF THIS, I THINK IS IN
THE PUBLIC INTEREST. THERE IS A
LOT OF OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL.
MOST OF THAT RELATES TO OUR TREE
TRIMMING ACTIVITIES. GENERALLY
EVEN THOUGH THE LEGISLATURE HAS
BEEN VERY CLEAR IN WHAT THEY
WOULD LIKE US TO DO AS FAR AS
MAINTAINING THE CLEARANCES
AROUND OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. IN
THE INTEREST OF TIME, I WILL, UH
WRAP UP THERE AND BE AVAILABLE
FOR QUESTIONS BUT ASKED WHEN I
VOTE THANK YOU VERY MUCH, THANKS
TO WITNESS MR CHAIRMAN AND
MEMBER SCOTT, WHICH ON BEHALF OF
THE CALIFORNIA COALITION OF
UTILITY EMPLOYEES, REPRESENTING
APPROXIMATELY 75,000 UTILITY
WORKERS IN CALIFORNIA, INCLUDING
AH, ROUGHLY 6.5 1000 VEGETATION
MANAGEMENT WORKERS THAT WE THE
THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY HAVE
WORKING IN THE FOREST IN
CALIFORNIA TODAY. THESE MEN AND
WOMEN, UM, FACE, YOU KNOW,
ALREADY HUGE OBSTACLES AND
TRYING TO GET THEIR JOB DONE AND
DEALING WITH WITH LANDOWNERS. UH
THAT DON'T WANT THEM TO COME IN
AND DO ANY WORK ON THEIR
PROPERTY IS A IS A HUGE PROBLEM,
AND SOMETIMES EVEN BECOMES A
SAFETY ISSUE FOR MY FOR MY
MEMBERS. BUT WE HEAR WHEN WE GO
TO UNIT MEETINGS ALL THE TIME
ABOUT CRUZ GOING OUT TO DO A
MATRIX TO CLEAR LINES AND IN
PARTICULAR, YOU KNOW, SECTION OF
THE GRID AND SEEING TREES THAT
ARE ARBORISTS. NO, ABSOLUTELY.
OR A DANGER AND A THREAT ON AN
ADJOINING PIECE OF PROPERTY.
THAT IS JUST JUST A DISASTER
WAITING TO HAPPEN AND NOT HAVING
THE ABILITY TO DO WHAT NEEDS TO
BE DONE TO MAKE THE SITUATION
SAFE, SO WE WOULD URGE AND I
VOTE. BE HAPPY TO ANSWER YOUR
QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. THE OTHER ADDITIONAL
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT NAME AND
ORGANIZATION, PLEASE. SEEN NONE.
IS THE MODERATOR ON THE PHONE
AND HE WITNESSES AND SUPPORT ON
THE PHONE LINES. IF YOU ARE IN
SUPPORT OF THE BILL IS ONE THEN
ZERO ON YOUR PHONE. DRISKY THE
LINE NUMBER AND THEN HE PLACED
SECOND QUÊ. YOU ARE
SPEAKERPHONE. PLEASE PICK UP
YOUR HANDS BEFORE PRESSING THE
NUMBERS ONCE AGAIN IN SUPPORT.
IT IS ONE THEN ZERO. AND WE DO
HAVE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE QUEUING
UP HERE, SO IT'LL BE JUST A
MOMENT. OKAY WE WILL START WITH
LINE NUMBER. LET'S SEE. HERE
FIND NUMBER 47. PLEASE GO AHEAD.
GERMAN MEMBERS. THIS IS AARON
EVANS ON BEHALF OF THE TREE CARE
INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT
OF THIS BILL FOR THE REASONS
PREVIOUSLY STATED, THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. WE WILL GO NOW. NEXT
TO LINE NUMBER. IF HE SEVEN
PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD AFTERNOON
, MR CHAIR MEMBERS, DOUG SUPERS
ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
PROFESSIONAL FIREFIGHTERS AND
SUPPORT THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IT
WILL BE JUST ONE SECOND HERE.
THEN WE HAVE ONE MORE IN Q AND
THAT WILL BE LINE NUMBER. ONE
SORRY, 41. BY NUMBER 41. LARA
POWER, AND WE HAVE A SOUTHERN
CALIFORNIA EDISON AND SUPPORT.
OKAY WE DO NOT HAVE ANY MORE IN
SUPPORT IN THE QUEUE. YOU MAY
CONTINUE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANY WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION TO
SB 3 96. AFTERNOON WITH THE
RURAL COUNTY REPRESENTATIVES OF
CALIFORNIA REPRESENTING 39 RURAL
COUNTIES HAVE BORNE THE BRUNT OF
UTILITY CAUSED AND NATURALLY
CAUSED WILDFIRES OVER THE LAST
SEVERAL YEARS. AND WE SHARE A
LOT OF THE AUTHOR'S OBJECTIVES.
A LOT OF PG NEEDS OBJECTIVES. WE
NEED VEGETATION MANAGEMENT WORK
TO OCCUR QUICKLY. WE NEED A
DISPUTE RESOLUTION PROCESS AND
WHEN TREES ARE CUT DOWN, WE NEED
THEM TO BE REMOVED AND A PROCESS
FOR THE MATERIAL TO BE TREATED
AT NO COST TO THE LANDOWNER. THE
AMENDMENTS BEING ADOPTED IN
COMMITTEE TODAY, DO A LOT TO
SIGNIFICANTLY IMPROVE THE BILL.
THEY ADDRESS MANY OF OUR MAJOR
CONCERNS THAT WE'VE RAISED ALONG
THE PROCESS, BUT THEY CREATE
SOME ADDITIONAL CONCERNS THAT
CAN'T GO WITHOUT MENTION WE CAN
AGREE WITH WHERE THE AUTHOR IS
COMING FROM ON PROVIDING
IMMUNITY FROM LIABILITY FOR
DAMAGE TO TREES. YOU GO IN AND
CUT DOWN A TREE. YOU SHOULDN'T
BE SUBJECT TO LIABILITY FOR THE
DAMAGE TO THE TREE. WE HAVE
CONCERNS BECAUSE THE LANGUAGE
AND HERE COULD BE READ IN SUCH A
WAY THAT IF THE UTILITY ACTS
NEGLIGENTLY OR RECKLESSLY IN
CUTTING DOWN A TREE, AND THE
TREE FALLS ON SOMEONE'S HOME OR
FALLS ON SOMEONE AND INJURES OR
KILLS THEM. THE BILL WOULD
PRECLUDE ME FROM BEING LIABLE
FOR SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA EDISON
OR ANY OTHER UTILITY FROM BEING
LIABLE FOR THOSE DAMAGES. WE
DON'T THINK THAT'S THE AUTHOR'S
INTENT. WE DON'T THINK THAT'S PG
AND E IS INTENT. THAT WASN'T OUR
EXPERIENCE WITH THE AUTHORS FOR
48 EARLIER THIS YEAR, SO WE NEED
TO SEE THAT PLAYER HUGE ISSUE
THAT NEEDS TO BE RESOLVED AND
CAN AND SHOULD BE RESOLVED
PRETTY EASILY. SO UNTIL THAT'S
RESOLVED, WE MUST REMAIN IN
OPPOSITION TO THE BILL. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYONE
ELSE IN THE COMMITTEE ROOM AND
OPPOSITION? NAME AND
ORGANIZATION, PLEASE. YOU CAN
USE THE MICROPHONE IF YOU'D
LIKE. CYNTHIA SHALLOT, AND I'M
SPEAKING FOR MYSELF AND STRONG
OPPOSITION FOR SP 3 96 AND ALSO
SPEAKING FOR INDIVISIBLE, UM,
CLIMATE JUSTICE AND ALSO
SACRAMENTO INDIVISIBLE. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. ANYONE ELSE IN
OPPOSITION. CNN MADAM MODERATOR
. ANYONE IN OPPOSITION TO SB 3
96 ON THE PHONE LINES.
BUT. HELLO. YES. KEVIN COLLINS
AND OPPOSITION UTILITY WILDFIRE
PREVENTION TASK FORCE. THIS BILL
HAS BEEN GENERATED AN
ORGANIZATION ONLY, PLEASE. THANK
YOU, SIR. WILDFIRE PREVENTION
TASK FORCE WHERE THE TWO MINUTES
SPEAKERS WERE THE TWO WE GET TWO
MINUTES. META MODERATE, WE'RE
GONNA TAKE OPPOSITION TO SB 3 96
NAME AND ORGANIZATION ONLY
PLEASE. YES AND THEY ARE LISTED
AS THE SPEAKERS AND OPPOSITION,
SO I'M NOT SURE THEY GET THEIR
TWO MINUTES OR NOT. I'M NOT
SURE. WE WERE NOT CALLED YET.
GOOGLE AND TALKING NOW PLEASE
GIVE US OUR TWO MINUTES LIKE
EVERYONE ELSE GOT. WERE LIFTED
ITS TWO PEOPLE IN OPPOSITE CAN I
BEGIN, PLEASE? MAY I BEGIN?
JENNIFER TANNER, MAY I BEGIN?
THIS LETTER. I'M SORRY ABOUT
THAT. IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE THE
MAIN OPPOSITION ON THE PHONE
LINES. JENNIFER. THERE'S TWO OF
US, THERE'S JENNIFER TIANNA AND
THERE'S KEVIN COLLINS AND WE
BOTH HAVE TWO MINUTES APIECE.
PLEASE GO AHEAD. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. BETTER TANNER, FOUNDER OF
INDIVISIBLE CALIFORNIA GREEN
TEAM, SPEAKING FOR 27 GROUPS AND
THOUSANDS OF RESIDENTS STRONGLY
OPPOSING SB 3 96. THE PURPOSE OF
THIS BILL IS TO LET THE GENIE
HAD ANY TREE WITH NO RECOURSE
AND NO ABILITY TO SEEK
COMPENSATION FOR DAMAGES AND NO
LIABILITY ALREADY CUT ANY TREE
WITH LITTLE RECOURSE, BUT AT
LEAST THERE IS THE GUARANTEE OF
NOTICE. OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD
AND ABILITY TO SEE. TO THINK
DAMAGES LIKE GET RID OF THE AS
THIS BILL DOES FACT DESPITE
YEARS OF AGGRESSIVE ENHANCED
EDUCATION MANAGEMENT STILL
FAILED TO PREVENT THE MOST
DESTRUCTIVE AND DEADLY FIRES IN
THE CALIFORNIA HISTORY BECAUSE
VEGETATION MANAGEMENT DOESN'T
WORK. AND WE STILL HAVE MASSIVE
BLACKOUTS BECAUSE IT'S THE WIRES
THAT CAUSED THE FIRES, NOT THE
TREES, AND PGD IS NEGLIGENT IN
MODERNIZING THEIR WIRES, WHEREAS
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA EDISON
ADMITTED THE DANGER OF BARE
WIRES FIVE YEARS AGO AND HAS
BEEN REPLACING THOSE WIRES WITH
COVERED CONDUCTORS AND
COMPUTERIZED CIRCUIT PROTECTION.
THAT'S GOT ANY SPARKING WITHIN A
SECOND, AND THEY NOW ONLY HAVE A
FEW ONE ACRE FIRES AND NO PS PS
WHERE THE WORK HAS BEEN DONE.
SCE CUT TWO TREES PER MILE.
WHAT? PG 152 TREATS PER MILE
THAT TELLS THE WHOLE STORY. THE
ANALYST VALIANTLY TRIES TO AMEND
BETWEEN 96. WE CAN AGREE THAT A
LOT CAN BE IMPROVED. HOWEVER
UNDER THIS BILL DID YOU NEED
DOES NOT HAVE TO COMPLY WITH ANY
STATE OR LOCAL AGENCY
REGULATIONS? THEY CAN OVERRIDE
ANYONE. THIS UNFETTERED TAKING.
YOU WANT TO GIVE TO THE COMPANY
WHOSE PROBATION JUDGE WILLIAM
ALSUP STATED THIS JANUARY
TEACHING. HE HAS GONE ON A CRIME
SPREE AND WILL EMERGE FROM
PROBATION AS A CONTINUING
MEDICINE TO CALIFORNIA MENACE TO
CALIFORNIA. YOU WANT TO GET PG
ME ALL THESE RIGHTS OVER PRIVATE
PROPERTY AND ASKING FOR
EMERGENCY STATUS IS ABSURD
BECAUSE SP 396 DOES NOT IMPROVE
WILDFIRE PREVENTION WE ASKED YOU
TO VOTE NO FOR CALIFORNIANS WHO
ARE ALREADY HARASSED AND
SUFFERING AT THE HANDS OF PG ME
SP 396 CODIFIES PG NEEDS WORST
BEHAVIOR. DON'T BE FOOLED. DON'T
GET PG ME THE ABILITY TO CUT
MILLIONS OF TREES WITH NO
RECOURSE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
OPPOSITION GATHERING CARBON
UTILITY WILDFIRE PREVENTION TASK
FORCE. BY LIVING SAN RAFAEL. I
WAS LIVING IN THE SENATOR'S
MOUNTAINS DURING THE CCU
LIGHTNING CONTROL EXPIRE, AND I
WITNESSED APPALLING DEMOLITION
OF PRIVATE LAND. AFTER THAT
CHOIR BEFORE PEOPLE WERE ALLOWED
IN TO SEE EVEN SEE THEIR
PROPERTY. IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE
LEGISLATURE TO UNDERSTAND TAT
THEY HAVE JUMPED PAST THE CORE
ISSUE HERE WHEN THEY IGNORED THE
CIRCUIT DESIGN CODE OF THE
PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION THAT
CODE GENERAL ORDER. 95 IS SO
OBSOLETE THAT IT ACTUALLY
PROTECT NEGLIGENCE. SPECIFYING.
EQUIPMENT AS LEGITIMATE TO USE
THAT IS AND EXTRAORDINARILY
OBSOLETE. THE LEGISLATURE JUMPED
TO THE WILD PRINCIPLE OF A
WILDFIRE MITIGATION PLAN. THIS
LEAVES THE ENTIRE PROCESS OF
SOLVING THE WILDFIRE IGNITION TO
THE UTILITY. OKAY, LET'S START
THERE. SO SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
EDISON AND SAN DIEGO GAS AND
ELECTRIC LOOK AT THE REASONS FOR
THEIR IGNITION TREES DON'T
IGNITE SPONTANEOUSLY.
DESIGNATIONS ARE CAUSED BY PARTY
BALLOONS BY CARS CRASHING THE
POWER POLES BY SQUIRRELS
CLIMBING POWER POLES. THIS IS
THAT THIS PROBLEM IS NOT GOING
TO BE ADDRESSED BY SELLING
MILLIONS OF TREES ACROSS
NORTHERN CALIFORNIA, HARASSING
HOMEOWNERS FOR YEARS TO COME.
YES, YES. THE SOLUTION EXISTS.
IT EXISTS NOW. IN THE PUC CODE
PROVISIONS 18 OF 83 86 STATES
THAT THE UTILITY SHOW ADDRESS
WELFARE SAFETY RISKS IN A
CONSISTENT METHODOLOGY THAT USED
BY OTHER CORPORATIONS UNLESS THE
COMMISSION DETERMINES OTHERWISE.
FIJI NEED IS NOT FOCUSED ON
REBUILDING ITS ANTIQUE CIRCUITS
. IT IS FELLING TREES AS THE
SOLUTION IS NEVER GOING TO
SUCCEED, AND THE LEGISLATURE IS
GOING TO GUARANTEE IT. THAT THEY
CONTINUE TO FACILITATE THIS
ERRONEOUS APPROACH THE WELFARE
ADMISSION THE WHOLE ISSUE.
REALLY FALLS TO THE CONCEPT OF
HAZARD TT NEWS USING THE NOTION
OF HAZARD SECONDS, YES AND, UH,
PRC 40 TO 90 93. 42 95 SPECIFIC
ANY HAZARDOUS. YOU CAN SKIP THE
REST STRUCTURALLY DEFECTIVE
DISEASE PREACHING IS FALLING
TREES AT A FULL TREE TYPES OF
DISTANCE FROM THEIR POWER LINES.
THEY REFER TO THAT AS A HAZARD.
NOW IF YOU HAVE A 250 YEAR OLD
OAK IN YOUR FRONT YARD, THE
TRUCKS SHOW UP AND WANT TO
FOLLOW THAT TREE. THE CIRCUIT
COULD BE 50 70 YEARS OLD.
TOTALLY UP SO MUCH FOR YOUR
COMMENTS CERTAINLY ASKED YOU TO
WRAP UP YOUR THOUGHT, PLEASE.
SOLVED WHEN THE CODE FOR CIRCUIT
CONSTRUCTION IS FINALLY UPDATED.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANY OTHER WITNESSES AND
OPPOSITION ON THE PHONE LINES,
NAME AND ORGANIZATION ONLY,
PLEASE. YOU ARE AN OPPOSITION.
IT IS ONE THAN ZERO ON YOUR
PHONE. AND WE DO HAVE ABOUT 30
IN. Q HERE. WE WILL START WITH
LINE NUMBER 49, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
PIES MY NAME IS JESS O'BRIEN.
I'M IN OPPOSITION TO STATE BILL.
3 96. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE
WILL GO TO LINE NUMBER 35. CAN
YOU HEAR ME? WE CAN HEAR YOU.
CAN YOU OKAY. MY NAME IS JEAN
WEST. ALLCHIN I'M SHERIFF.
SIERRA CLUB. REDWOOD CHAPTERS
NORTHERN CALIFORNIA FOREST
COMMITTEE, AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE
THIS BILL. THANK YOU. WE WILL GO
TO LINE NUMBER 31, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. HELLO. MY NAME IS DONNA
BLAIR RESIDENT HUMBOLDT COUNTY
AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE SP 396.
THANK YOU. LINE NUMBER 36. GOOD
AFTERNOON. I'M JANET MILLER WALL
REPRESENTING CONEJO POETRY
ADVOCATES. WE ARE STRONGLY
OPPOSED TO SP 3 96 WAS ALLOWS PG
AND E. TO ELIMINATE HERITAGE,
NATIVE TREES, SO MUCH NAME AND
ORGANIZATION. OKAY. NEXT TO GO
TO LINE NUMBER 52. ABOUT SUSAN
HART. OF MILL VALLEY. MARIN
COUNTY STRONGLY OPPOSED SP 3 96.
THANK YOU. WE WILL GO TO LINE
NUMBER 56 56. YOUR LINE IS OPEN.
DANIEL BRYAN ON BEHALF OF SIERRA
CLUB, CALIFORNIA AND OPPOSITION.
THANK YOU. NEXT IS LINE NUMBER
53, PLEASE GO AHEAD. I'M GARY
PRITCHARD PETERSON FROM THE
RURAL COMMUNITY OF WHITE THORN
AND HUMBLE COUNTY. I STRONGLY
OPPOSED THE SENATE BILL. 3 96
BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE WITH THE
GENIE CONTRACTORS. THANK YOU
WERE ABOUT TO LINE NUMBER 51.
HELLO MY NAME IS AN THRIFT AND
WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMITTEE
OF THE SENTIMENTAL VALLEY
WOMEN'S CLUB AND THE PROPERTY
OWNER IN SANTA CRUZ COUNTY WITH
LOTS OF TREES. ONLY OPPOSED SB 3
96. THANK YOU. NEXT, WE'LL GO TO
LINE NUMBER 38. HELLO. BY NUMBER
38. OKAY PAGES QUÊ HERE, SO WE
WILL NOW NEXT GO TO 54 LINE
NUMBER 54. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.
THIS IS MARK FENCER MAKER ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA COUNCIL
OF LAND TRUST, BUT UNTIL OPEN
SPACE TRUST IN THE BIG SORT OF
LAND TRUST AND STRONG
OPPOSITION. THANK YOU. THAT'S
WHAT WE LINE NUMBER 20 NUMBER
20, YOU'RE OPEN. MIRANDA EDISON
IN MENDOCINO COUNTY. STRONGLY
OPPOSING AS B 3 96. THANK YOU.
LINE NUMBER 58. 58 YOUR LINE IS
OPEN. THANK YOU RICHEST ABOUT
TENNIS, CALLING ON BEHALF OF 3
15 THE AREA ACTION. WE APPROACH
THIS BILL AND THAT THE COMMITTEE
MEMBERS TO VOTE. NO, THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. FLYING NUMBER 29.
YES, THIS IS JANE LUPINO. UM
CALLING FROM PETROLIA,
CALIFORNIA AND HUMBLE COUNTY. I
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL. SB 3
96. THEY HAVE RUN PG AND THANK
YOU SO MUCH. NEXT WE WILL GO TO
LINE NUMBER 34. GOOD AFTERNOON
CHAIR AND MEMBERS DOCTOR, MY MO
CALLING IN ON BEHALF OF THEM
INTENCIÓN INSULA REGIONAL OPEN
POLICE DISTRICT IN OPPOSITION.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU GO TO LINE
NUMBER 25. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS
ROSEANNE WHIT CULLING FROM 1000
OAKS ON BEHALF OF THE CANADIAN
CLIMATE COALITION. WE STRONGLY
OPPOSED SB 396 AND URGE YOUR NO
VOTE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT
WILL BE LINE NUMBER 39, PLEASE
GO AHEAD. THEN COORDINATED
PROPERTY OWNER TWO AND 20 COUNTY
OUTSKIRTS OF YOU SO MANY
NATIONAL PARKS IN OUR POSITION.
IT'S THE VERY WIRES. THANK YOU.
WE WILL GO TO LINE NUMBER 11.
YES MY NAME IS NANCY MACY. I'M
CHAIR OF THE VALLEY WOMEN'S
CLUBS ENVIRONMENTAL COMMITTEE OF
THE SAN LORENZO VALLEY. I'M ALSO
CHAIR OF THE UTILITY WILDFIRE
TASK FORCE. WE SPEAK IN STRONG
OPPOSITION AND REQUEST A NO
VOTE. THANK YOU. WE WILL GO TO
LINE NUMBER 37, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
GOOD AFTERNOON. I AM DIANA,
MILKY, A RESIDENT OF TORRENTS.
MEMBER OF THE 3, 50, SOUTHLAND
LEGISLATIVE ALLIANCE AND
INDIVISIBLE BEACH CITIES. I
STRONGLY OPPOSE SB 3 96. THANK
YOU. WE WILL GO NOW TO LINE
NUMBER 28, PLEASE GO AHEAD. MY
NAME IS REBECCA COLLINS. I LIVE
IN FAIRFAX, CALIFORNIA. I AM
SURROUNDED BY THREE MAJOR
LANDSLIDES. P. JENNY WANTS TO
CUT 75 TREES ON MY PROPERTY.
WHAT WILL HAPPEN? I'LL HAVE MORE
LANDSLIDES. THANK YOU SO MUCH
NAME AND ORGANIZATION, PLEASE.
NEXT TO THE BOAT TO LINE NUMBER
45. PLEASE GO AHEAD. YES. HI MY
NAME IS LAWRENCE GASSY, CALLING
FROM THE VALLEY WOMEN'S CLUB OF
LORENZO VALLEY IN STRONG
OPPOSITION OF THE 3 96. THANK
YOU MY NUMBER 21. HELLO I'M MARY
JO WALKER. I'M A HOMEOWNER IN
MARIN COUNTY AND RETIRED ELECTED
OFFICIALS FROM THE HISPANIC CRUZ
COUNTY. I STRONGLY OPPOSED 3 96
PLEASE VOTE NO. FIND NUMBER 50.
THIS IS JOHN ARMSTRONG WITH THE
SIERRA CLUB'S CALIFORNIA
FORESTRY COMMITTEE. I'M IN
OPPOSITION. THANK YOU. MY NUMBER
32, PLEASE GO AHEAD. JANICE
REYNOLDS FROM SAN ANSELMO,
CALIFORNIA STRONGLY OPPOSED SB 3
96. THANK YOU. LINE NUMBER 64.
CHRISTIAN SANDAL VALLEY WOMEN'S
CLUB OF THE SAN LORENZO VALLEY
ENVIRONMENTAL COMMITTEE STRONGLY
OPPOSED SP 3 96. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU MY NUMBER 46. I'M
CATHY MONROE FROM REDWOOD
VALLEY. MENDOCINO COUNTY
STRONGLY OPPOSED SB 3 96. THANK
YOU. WE'LL GO TO LINE NUMBER 40.
MY NUMBER 40 YEAR LINE IS OPEN.
NO RESPONSE TO THE BALL TO LINE
NUMBER 65, PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD
AFTERNOON. THIS IS KIM DELFINO,
REPRESENTING THE CALIFORNIA NEED
TO PLANT SOCIETY, DEFENDERS OF
WILDLIFE AND SONOMA LAND TRUST
AND OPPOSITION. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. WE WILL GO TO LINE NUMBER
67. YES HELLO. MY NAME IS
FRANCESCA WANDER. I AM A VOTING
CONSTITUENT OF THE SENATOR KEVIN
MCCARTHY. I AM ALSO A MEMBER OF
INDIVISIBLE CALIFORNIA STATE,
STRONG AND INDIVISIBLE
SACRAMENTO. ADMIN IN OPPOSITION
TO SB 3 96. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. WE'LL GO TO LINE NUMBER 66.
HI THIS IS STAY JOHNSON WITH
INDIVISIBLE SANTA CRUZ COUNTY
AND THE VALLEY WOMEN'S CLUB AND
INDIVISIBLE STATE STRONG AND
STRONG OPPOSITION TO SB 3 96.
THANK YOU. LINE NUMBER 69. HI.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, MA'AM.
SORRY OKAY. JESSICA CRAVEN. I'M
WITH INDIVISIBLE CALIFORNIA
STATE STRONG. I'M ALSO A MEMBER
OF THE LOS ANGELES COUNTY
DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND A MEMBER OF
THE STATE PARTY'S ENVIRONMENTAL
CAUCUS. STRONG, STRONG
OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT IS LINE
NUMBER 61. BY NUMBER 61 YOU'RE
OPEN. ALRIGHT HEARING NO
RESPONSE. WE WILL GO AHEAD TO
LINE NUMBER 55, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
MISS ELLEN DRELL. I'M A PROPERTY
OWNER IN MENDOCINO COUNTY AND A
MEMBER OF THE MENDOCINO COUNTY
CLIMATE ACTION ADVISORY
COMMITTEE, BUT I'M SPEAKING ON
BEHALF OF THE WILLITS
ENVIRONMENTAL CENTER. WITH ITS
HUNDREDS OF MEMBERS IN MENDOCINO
COUNTY. WE STRONGLY OPPOSED 3 96
AND URGE A NO VOTE. THANK YOU
WILL GO TO LINE NUMBER 30. HI.
MY NAME. MY NAME IS WENDY LIU
COCKY. I'M FROM 3 57 LEGISLATIVE
COMMITTEE AND I STRONGLY OPPOSED
THE 3 96. THANK YOU. WE WILL GO
TO LINE NUMBER 68. HELLO THIS IS
LINDA PERKINS FROM THE REDWOOD
COAST WATERSHEDS ALLIANCE IN
MENDOCINO COUNTY. WE STRONGLY
OPPOSED SB 3 96. THANK YOU. WE
WILL GO TO LINE NUMBER 70. THIS
IS RICHARD JINGER HAVE BEEN WITH
MULTIPLE POSITIONS AND MULTIPLE
ORGANIZATIONS FOR FORESTS AND
WATERSHED RECOVERY AND STRONGLY
OPPOSED. SB 3 96, AND IT'S
DEPREDATION EXEMPTIONS. THANK
YOU. WE WILL GO TO LINE NUMBER
60. THE MARKET. PERLMUTTER FROM
INDIVIDUAL MEDIA CITY, BURBANK.
IN OUR GROUP EMPATHETICALLY
POSES A SPEECH AND YOU SIX. AND
WE HAVE ABOUT FOUR IN Q STILL
HERE, WE WILL GO TO LINE NUMBER
44. AYE. YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE
CAN. YOU HEAR ME? YEAH THIS IS
WALTER SMITH FROM WILLITS.
TIMBER FALLER. THEY'RE FALLING
ALREADY FALLING TREES THAT DON'T
THREATEN THE LINES SERIOUSLY
OPPOSED TO SP 3 96. THANK YOU.
WE WILL GO TO LINE NUMBER 18.
WRAPPING MCCOLLUM CHICO TREE
ADVOCATES, THEN UTILITY WELFARE
PREVENTION TASK FORCE. I OPPOSE
CUSTOMER BILL OF RIGHTS INSTEAD.
ALL RIGHT. WE WILL GO TO LINE
NUMBER 38. HI. THIS IS PATTI
QUINLAN WITH 3 50 DAY AREA AND I
STRONGLY OPPOSED THE BILL. THANK
YOU. OKAY WE DO NOT HAVE ANY
MORE IN OPPOSITION IN THE QUEUE.
MR CHAIR YOU PLEASE CONTINUE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. BRINGING IT
BACK TO THE COMMITTEE ROOM.
ANYONE IN BETWEEN? I KNOW
THERE'S AT LEAST ONE. GOOD
AFTERNOON, CHRIS ROSE ON BEHALF
OF CAL FORESTS. WE HADN'T
OPPOSED POSITION FOR QUITE A
LONG TIME. BUT WITH THE WORK
DONE IN THE COMMITTEE WANT TO
REALLY THANK, UM MISS BROKAW
WITH HER DILIGENCE AND
WILLINGNESS TO ROLL UP HER
SLEEVES. WITH THE ACCEPTANCE OF
THE COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS.
CALIFORNIA'S WILL MOVE TO
NEUTRAL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
BRINGING IT BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE. ANY QUESTIONS FROM
THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS? MR WOOD.
JUST A QUESTION. UM AND A COUPLE
OF COMMENTS I HEARD YOU SAY,
REMOVE REMOVED THE TREES THAT
MEAN WHEN THE TREES ARE THE
DEBRIS IS REMOVED AFTER THE
TRIMMING AND SUCH HAPPENS AS
WELL. BECAUSE THEY HEARD
CONFLICTING INFORMATION ABOUT
THAT, AND THE ONE PERK OF THE
BILLS THAT CLARIFIES THE
ADDITIONAL TYPES OF REMEDIATION
WE CAN DO FOR HOW WE TREAT THE
TREE. THERE'S USUALLY ARE
STANDARD PRACTICES EVERY
CLIPPING YOUR BRANCHES, YOUR
SMALL BRANCHES. WE GENERALLY
ALWAYS CHIP THAT AND REMOVE IT.
THE ISSUE AT HAND IS TYPICALLY,
UM, THE. THE BRANCHES, THE
ACTUAL SUBSTANTIVE TREE.
DIFFERENT LANDOWNERS WANT TO
SOMETIMES RETAIN THAT WOOD FOR
FIREWOOD. SOMETIMES IF YOU'RE A
FORESTER, YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO
COMMERCIALIZE IT. IT'S EXPENSIVE
TO REMOVE IF YOU DON'T PLAN ON
DOING THAT, SO THAT'S TYPICALLY
WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE
WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING REMOVING
THE MATERIAL, UM AND THERE'S A
LOT OF VARIOUS CIRCUMSTANCES
ABOUT ANYWHERE DOESN'T APPLY. SO
IF IT WAS A MARK, IF THERE'S A
MORE SPECIFIC QUESTION, I'M
HAPPY TO ANSWER THAT. NO, I JUST
I HAD JUST HEARD SOME COMMENTS
THAT THAT'S POSSIBLE THAT
COMPANIES MIGHT GO IN AND CUT
DOWN DEBRIS OR CUT DOWN TREES
BUT LEAVE BEHIND LARGE BRANCHES,
WHICH, IN MY OPNION, ACTUALLY
POTENTIALLY INCREASES FIRE
HAZARD, ESPECIALLY AS IT DRIES
OUT, SO I WAS JUST LOOKING FOR
CLARIFICATION. IN ONE BENEFIT OF
THE BILL, WITH THE AMENDMENTS
THAT WE'RE TAKING A DAY IS TOO
CLARIFIES HOW WE APPLY THE
RELEVANT PROVISIONS OF THE
FOREST PRACTICE RULES ABOUT HOW
WE UH WHAT SHIP AND SPREAD
MATERIAL IN RELATION TO
INFRASTRUCTURE OF CRITICAL
IMPORTANCE OR ROADS. THERE ARE
CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES, THE AIR
STREAM BEDS WHERE WE'RE NOT ABLE
TO ACTUALLY GET THE EQUIPMENT IN
. SO THERE'S PROVISION FOR THAT
. UM, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
YOUR SOMEBODY'S BACKYARD AND A
RESIDENTIAL FACILITIES ARE MUCH
EASIER TO GO IN AND REMOVE IF
THE LANDOWNER REQUEST WITH
TIMELY NOTICE THAT WILL DO IT,
SO THERE'S ADDITIONAL
ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTIONS AND
LANDOWNER RIGHTS ADDED THROUGH
THIS BILL THAT ARE ABSENT
CURRENTLY. AND A LOT OF IT'S
LEFT UP TO INTERPRETATION OF
WHATEVER NOTICE AN OPPORTUNITY
TO BE HEARD MEANS WHICH, SO
WE'RE TRYING TO CLARIFY THAT
WHICH WE THINK IS EVERYONE'S
BENEFIT HERE. YEAH I'M GOING TO
SUPPORT THE BILL TODAY, AND I'M
GONNA MAKE SOME COMMENTS. UM,
LOOK, I REPRESENT AN AREA THAT
WAS DEVASTATED BY WILDFIRES. THE
TUBBS FIRE IN PARTICULAR.
DESTROYED 5400 HOMES. I DON'T
REMEMBER HOW MANY TOTAL THE WINE
COUNTRY FIRES ALTOGETHER. 44
PEOPLE DIED NOW THAT WASN'T THE
FAULT OF THE TEST FIRE WAS NOT
THE FAULT OF UTILITY. UM BUT IN
THAT PARTICULAR CASE, THERE WAS
AN INSPECTION OF THE PROPERTY
WHERE THE FIRE DID START. AND
THERE WAS AN ASK OF THE
LANDOWNER. I BELIEVE, AS I
REMEMBER THE REPORT. TO DO SOME
WORK ON TREES TO PREVENT A
POTENTIAL AS A POTENTIAL HAZARD.
I'M NOT SURE THAT HAPPENED.
THERE'S NO DOCUMENTATION TO
SUPPORT THAT IT DID OR DIDN'T
HAPPEN. HOWEVER THAT IS ABOUT
WHERE THE FIRE STARTED. UM AND
MEANWHILE, 5400 HOMES WERE
DESTROYED BUSINESSES. UM LIVES
WERE LOST. UM AND SO I'M PRETTY
SENSITIVE TO THE FACT THAT YOU
KNOW A TREE FALLING IN THE WRONG
PLACE ON A UTILITY LINE IN A
HIGH WIND EVENT CAN AND HAS
SPARKED WILDFIRES. UM AND BUT
I'M ALSO SENSITIVE THE FACT THAT
PEOPLE YOU KNOW, LOVE THEIR
TREES. HAPPEN TO LOVE TREES
MYSELF, AND I LOVE MINE. BUT I
WILL. I WILL RELATE AN EXAMPLE
ON PROPERTY THAT THAT I OWNED AT
ONE POINT WHERE, AFTER THE FIRES
A CREW CAME THROUGH, AND THEY
DID SOME TREE TRIMMING, AND I
FIRST WAS SURPRISED TO SEE IT
NUMBER ONE AND THEN SECOND UM, I
DIDN'T. I DIDN'T THINK THAT WAS
A HAZARD. WHEN OUT LATER AND
REALIZED THAT WOW, NOT ONLY WAS
IT THAT HAZARD THAT WOULD WAS
ROTTEN AND THAT WAS THAT WAS A
POTENTIAL POTENTIAL PROBLEM. I
THINK IN A PERFECT WORLD, UM
UTILITIES WOULD PREFER IF THEY
HAVE THE RESOURCES TO BE ABLE TO
UNDERGROUND. ALL THESE LINES AND
THESE HIGH RISK FIRE AREAS. UM,
THAT, TOO WILL REQUIRE PROBABLY
SOME VEGETATION MANAGEMENT SOME
OTHER ACTIVITIES THAT PEOPLE
MIGHT OBJECT TO UM, BUT IN THE
MEANTIME UM I DO KNOW THAT THERE
ARE OBJECTIONS THAT PEOPLE GOING
IN AND THAT POINTS TO OTHER
ISSUES THAT ARE THAT ARE
CHALLENGING. AND IF YOU'RE
LANDOWNER, MAYBE ON 20 ACRES.
THERE'S A THERE'S A THERE'S A
FORESTRY PROGRAM OR CAL FIRE
THAT ALLOWS YOU TO GET A GRANT.
TO HELP DEFER THE COSTS OF SOME
VEGETATION MANAGEMENT THAT MAYBE
THAT'S AROUND POWER LINES. MAYBE
IT'S NOT. BUT IN ORDER TO DO
THAT, YOU GOTTA SPENDTHE MONEY
AND THEN YOU'VE GOT TO WAIT
SEVERAL MONTHS TO GET THE MONEY
BACK THROUGH THE GRANT PROGRAM.
THAT DOESN'T WORK. REALLY? WELL
IF YOU'RE A SMALL LANDOWNER, AND
SO YOU'VE GOT A HALF AN ACRE AN
ACRE, AND YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO
YOU MAY WANT TO DO SOME OF THIS.
WORK YOURSELF. UM THERE ISN'T A
PROGRAM FOR THAT. THERE REALLY
ISN'T FUNDING FOR THAT OR
SUPPORT FOR THAT. AND SO IT'S
DIFFICULT. AND YOU KNOW, WITH
WITH RESPECT TO THE UTILITIES,
AND I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF
DIFFERENT CONTRACTORS THAT ARE
HIRED AND SOMETIMES YOU KNOW, IT
NEEDS A TRIM JUST A LITTLE
AROUND THE EARS AND IT TREE ENDS
UP LOOKING LIKE, UM, IT JUST GOT
INDOCTRINATED IN BOOT CAMP, AND
THAT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE.
ACCEPTABLE EITHER. SO, UM, YOU
KNOW, I AND I DO RECOGNIZE THAT
THAT GETTING PERMISSION
SOMETIMES TO DO THIS WORK IS
IMPOSSIBLE BECAUSE THAT DESIRE
TO NOT HAVE ANY TREE TRIMMED OR
OR OR ALTERED IN ANY WAY SO
HOWEVER, UM THE LIABILITY, I
THINK IS SIGNIFICANT. WE'VE
ALREADY SEEN THAT IN MANY, MANY
CASES AND IT IS A DIFFICULT IT'S
DIFFICULT FOR ME ON THIS ONE.
BUT BUT I THINK IN THE INTERESTS
OF, UH, AT THIS POINT UNTIL
THERE'S ENOUGH MONEY OR ENOUGH
PLANNING AND RESOURCES TO
UNDERGROUND A LOT OF THESE LINES
, UM WE NEED TO PROTECT AS MANY
PROPERTIES AS WE CAN MANY HOMES
AS WE CAN, AS MANY LIVES AS WE
CAN. AND SO I'M GOING TO SUPPORT
THE DEBT THE BILL TODAY ON IN
THAT RESPECT, AND I HOPE THAT IN
THE FUTURE AS SOME OF THIS
TRIMMING IS DONE, THAT IT CAN BE
MORE COOPERATIVE, MAYBE MAYBE A
LITTLE LESS AGGRESSIVE IN SOME
AREAS. BUT THERE IS AN URGENCY I
THINK, AND WE'VE MANDATED THAT
DO THAT, AND I THINK WE NEED TO.
WE NEED TO BEGIN TO GET THIS
DONE IN THE INTEREST OF PUBLIC
SAFETY AND HOPEFULLY IN A WAY
THAT DOESN'T THAT DOES THIS
LITTLE DAMAGE AS POSSIBLE, SO
APPRECIATE YOUR INDULGENCE ON
THIS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH, MR. WOULD ANYONE ELSE HAVE
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE MURATSUCHI
THANK YOU. I WANT TO FOLLOW UP.
MY COLLEAGUE FROM THE NORTH
STATE AND EMPHASIZING THE
URGENCY IN TERMS OF WILDFIRE
MITIGATION. UM IT'S MY
UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT IS THE
GENERAL INTENT OF THIS BILL.
ALTHOUGH YOU KNOW, I AM
CONCERNED READING THROUGH THE
COMMITTEE ANALYSIS. UM. THE
COMMITTEE ANALYSIS SITES AFTER
THEIR 2020 LIGHTNING COMPLEX
FIRES IN SANTA CRUZ MOUNTAINS.
THE SANTA CRUZ COUNTY BOARD OF
SUPERVISORS DESCRIBED PG ANY
LOGGING AS EGREGIOUS AND
RECKLESS. UM. PG AND E. COULD
YOU CLARIFY AS TO HOW THE
AMENDMENTS TAKEN WILL, UH, ARE
ARE INTENDED TO AVOID THIS WHAT
THE BORDER SUPERVISORS CLAIMED,
AS DESCRIBED AS EGREGIOUS AND
RECKLESS LOGGING. I THINK THE
SIMPLEST ANSWER IS THE BILL AS A
REQUIREMENT THAT'S DONE IN
COMPLIANCE WITH THE FOREST
PRACTICE RULES IN THE FOREST
PRACTICE ACT. THAT'S THE EASIEST
WAY THE FORCE PRACTICE RULES ARE
SEVERAL 100 PAGES AND VERY
COMPLEX BUT REFERENCING THAT, I
THINK TYPICALLY TAKES CARE OF
THAT. AND NOTABLY, WE DID UNDER
PUC DIRECTION. WE HAVE GONE BACK
, AND WE'VE CLEANED UP A LOT OF
THAT PRIOR PROBLEMATIC MATERIAL
. THE BILL ITSELF SPEAKS TO
PROPERTIES WHERE WE DON'T HAVE
EASEMENTS. THERE WERE COST
CONCERNS ABOUT EXPAND ABILITY
EVEN FURTHER TERRITORY. SO THE
BILLS AND IT'S BILL BEFORE HE
WAS VERY NARROW. IT SPEAKS TO
PROPERTIES WHERE WE DO NOT HAVE
EASEMENTS. OKAY UM, AND SO THE
COMMITTEE ANALYSIS ALSO
HIGHLIGHTS THE FACT THAT PGD
FACES MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN
FINES FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF
FORESTRY AND FIRE PROTECTION AND
THE CALIFORNIA COASTAL
COMMISSION FOR OVER CUTTING
LARGE TREES. YOU'RE SAYING THAT
THE AMENDMENT WILL ALSO ADDRESS. WHAT LED TO THESE MILLIONS OF
DOLLARS IN FINES. UM. WHAT ABOUT
THE CONCERN THAT UTILITY CAN
COME ON A PRIVATE PROPERTY
OUTSIDE OF THE POWER LINE?
EASEMENT UH AND PRUNE OR FELL
TREES AS FAR AS IT WANTS. THAT'S
BEEN A CONCERN THAT'S BEEN
RAISED THAT IS EXISTING LAW.
QUITE FRANKLY, THE PC AUTHORITY
ON THIS IS PRETTY CLEAR. CURRENT
THE CURRENT CODE SECTION WE'RE
TRYING TO AMEND. ALREADY SAYS
THAT THE UTILITY HAS FULL
DISCRETION. UM, WE'RE TRYING TO
CLARIFY WITH THE OPTIONS FOR THE
LANDOWNER TO CONTEST OUR
DECISION AND OR RESPONDERS
NOTICE. SOMETIMES THESE
PROPERTIES ARE NOT ALWAYS THE
EASIEST ONES TO NOTIFY. IT MIGHT
BE SOMEBODY WHO JUST HOLDS 30
ACRES UP IN A FOREST SOMEWHERE.
THEY DON'T ACTUALLY LIVE THERE.
SO HOW DO YOU CONTACT THAT
PERSON? WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU
BELIEVE IN NOTICE? AND THEN YOU
GET A STORM, AND THEN THE NOTICE
BLOWS AWAY. SO THOSE ARE
QUESTIONS THAT WE HOPE THAT THE
PUC CAN HELP US ANSWER THE WAY
TO PROPERLY NOTIFY LANDOWNERS.
THESE ARE NOT THE EASIEST.
THERE'S A LOT OF VERY UNIQUE
CIRCUMSTANCES IN THIS THAT WE'RE
HOPING THE PIECE YOU CAN HELP
OUT WITH. CERTAIN SO YOU'RE
SAYING THAT THIS BILL DOESN'T
ADD OR TAKE AWAY FROM THE
EXISTING LAW WHERE THAT THAT
AFFORDS UTILITY UNLIMITED
DISCRETION. TWO COUNTRIES ALONG
POWER LINES. THE AMENDMENTS DO
DELETE THE PHRASE THAT FULL
DISCRETION AND JUST INSTEAD SAY
PERFORMED BY THE UTILITY SO
THAT'S A IT'S A LEGAL NUANCE,
BUT YES, IT DOES REMOVE OUR FULL
DISCRETION, BUT WE STILL ARE
REQUIRED TO DO THE WORK UNDER
PSC AUTHORITY AND UNDER THE REST
OF THE POLO RESOURCES COUCH. ALL
RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND THAT'S IT
DOES EXPAND THE TYPES OF TREES
THAT ARE IDENTIFIED AS HAZARDS.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE
COMMITTEE? SEE NONE. MR MAYS,
WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE? SURE
THANK YOU, MR VICE CHAIR AND
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. UM JUST
THINKING ABOUT SOME OF DR WOOD'S
COMMENTS AS WE SPENT A LOT OF
TIME YEARS AGO ON THE SP 901
COMMISSION AND WHAT ENDED UP
BECOMING 10 54. THE TRUTH IS, WE
KNEW THEN, AS WE KNOW NOW THAT
OUR WORK WASN'T DONE THAT WE
NEEDED TO DO MORE. WE KNOW THAT
VEGETATION MANAGEMENT IS ONE OF
THOSE THINGS THAT IS PART AND
PARCEL OF THE PROBLEM THAT WE'VE
GOT WITH THESE WITH THESE HUGE
WILDFIRES, AND THIS IS JUST
ANOTHER PIECE OF THE OVERALL
PUZZLE, AND I ALSO WANT TO THANK
THE OPPOSITION FOR CALLING IN. I
THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. TO BE
HEARD I IN MY EIGHTH YEAR NOW IN
THE LEGISLATURE COMMITTEES
HAVEN'T ALWAYS BEEN, UM, PLACES
WHERE THERE'S BEEN REAL DIALOGUE
AND DEBATE. SOMETIMES YOU JUST
ASSUME HEY, THAT THE CHAIRS OF
THE CHAIRS. GOOD WITH THIS BILL,
THE BILL IS GOING TO GOING TO
GET OUT. I'M ALSO SOMEBODY THAT
BELIEVES THAT THIS IS WHERE WE
SHOULD MAKE GOOD PUBLIC POLICY.
AND SO THE COMMENTS THAT WERE
MADE TODAY ARE ALSO HELPFUL. IN
THE PROCESS AND THEN JUST
FINALLY WANT TO MAKE NOTE THAT
THIS DOES ACTUALLY HAVE A SUNSET
ON IT. JANUARY ONE OF 2026. SO
WE SAY, A FOUR YEAR SUNSET BUT
ACTUALLY BEFORE FOUR YEARS IF
FOR SOME REASON, UM THE WHAT?
WHAT HAS BEEN PROPOSED DOESN'T
TURN OUT TO BE TRUE. THE
LEGISLATURE. I WON'T BE AROUND
THEM. BUT THE LEGISLATURE HS A
CHOICE OF WHETHER TO EXTEND THIS
OR OR OR NOT. THIS BILL DOES
SUNSET. WITH THAT RESPECTFULLY
REQUESTS AND I VOTE. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. MR. SECRETARY. PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL. UH SP 3 96. THE
MOTION IS DUE PASSES AMENDED TO
THE FLOOR FLORA. AYE, FLORA. I
BENNETT. BOERNER HORVATH
BOERNER HORVATH I. FRIEDMAN.
FRIEDMAN NOT VOTING. MATHIS IS I
MCCARTY. MCCARTHY I MERIT SOUCI
VOTING, NOT VOTING. SUHARTO.
SEYARTO. AYE. WOULD WOULD I.
THAT'S SIX VOTES. IT'S OUT THE
LAST SIX BOATS IN TIME, WE'LL
LEAVE IT OPEN FOR ABSENT
MEMBERS. ALRIGHT. MHM. ALRIGHT
PRESENTING SENATE BILL SB 8 67
SENATOR LARD. OKAY, WE'LL DO IT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR CHAIR.
YOU HAD A MOTION AND A SECOND.
OKAY? AND I TOOK ME A YEAR AND A
HALF TO GET USED TO NOT NEEDING
A SECOND IN THE SENATE SO THAT A
THIRD GREAT WELL. I'LL JUST SAY
THIS IS ABOUT SEA LEVEL RISE.
TAKE THE COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS.
WE ARE WORKING ON THIS. THE
CITIES AND THE COUNTIES HAVE
EXPRESSED SOME CONCERNS. SOME OF
THE AMENDMENTS MOVED TOWARDS
THEM. THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL NEED
85% OF THE COSTAL OR BAY AREA
GOVERNMENTS ARE COVERED BY LOCAL
COST OF PLANS. 15% AREN'T WE'RE
GOING THAT ARE CERTIFIED. WE'RE
GOING TO HAVE TO WORK WITH THEM.
UM I THINK I JUST SAY THAT LARA
, WASH WASH FROM THE SURFRIDER
FOUNDATION IS HERE TO HER AS
PRESIDENT. I THINK
TELEPHONICALLY IN SUPPORT, AND I
ASKED FOR YOUR I VOTE AND WE'LL
BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTION.%
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SENATOR IS
LARA WASH IS IN THE COMMITTEE
ROOM. ON THE PHONE. GO AHEAD,
MISS WALSH. GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIR
AND MEMBERS. I'M LARA WALSH.
BIRDS SURFRIDER FOUNDATION,
URGING YOU TO VOTE TODAY ON SB 8
67 TO PREPARE CALIFORNIA'S
COASTAL TOWNS FOR SEA LEVEL
RISE. I'D LIKE TO THANK SENATOR
LANSFORD LAIRD FOR AUTHORING
THIS BILL AND ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
BERMAN FOR CO AUTHORING LEVELS
WILL RISE A FOOT BY 2050, WHICH
WILL TRANSLATE INTO 40 LATERAL
FEET OF FLOODING AND SOME PLACES
CHANGING OUR STATE FOREVER. THE
STORY OF CLIMATE CHANGE IS
GLOBAL. BUT CLIMATE ACTION, AS
WE ALL KNOW, IS LOCAL. FACE
RISING FEES. LOCAL GOVERNMENTS
WILL ENCOUNTER IMMENSE TRADE
OFFS THAT ARE SIGNATURES OF
CLIMATE CHANGE TRADE OFFS
BETWEEN THINGS LIKE RAILWAYS AND
PUBLIC BEACHES, CARBON
SEQUESTERING WETLANDS AND THE
PROTECTION OF POWER PLANT. AND,
OF COURSE, THE FINANCIAL TRADE
OFF BETWEEN SPENDING UPFRONT AND
DEFAULTED ON LONG TERM COST. IN
EVERY CASE, THESE TRADE OFFS ARE
MADE EASIER BY UPFRONT PLANNING
. THE PREVIOUS CONVERSATION
ILLUSTRATES SOME OF THE
DIFFICULTIES OF WILDFIRE
MANAGEMENT, ANOTHER CLIMATE
REALITY THAT SHOWS US HOW
DIFFICULT THESE CONVERSATIONS
ARE WHEN WE FAIL TO MANAGE
CLIMATE CHANGE, PROACTIVELY THE
COST OF SOCIETY, THE ENVIRONMENT
AND CALIFORNIA'S WALLET
STRATOSPHERIC WE HAVE A LOT OF
TOUGH DECISIONS TO MAKE AS A
COASTAL STATE WHEN IT COMES TO
SEA LEVEL RISE PLANNING, BUT THE
THING WE CAN AGREE ON IS THAT
OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS MUST BE
CONSIDERING LEVEL RISE AS A
PERMIT DEVELOPMENT. AND CONSIDER
WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THE PUBLIC
TRUST RESOURCES THAT WE ALL LOVE
THAT STILL REQUIRES PEPPER AND
STUFF, RIGHT? BY 2026. JUST IN
TIME FOR SEAS TO RISE HALF A
FOOT BY 2030 SO BEGAN TO RISE
EXPONENTIALLY AFTER THAT. SO ON
THE TABLE. WE HAVE A PRACTICE
BILL THAT GIVES US A CHANCE TO
PROTECT OUR BEACHES LEFT IN
WAVES AND ENSURE THAT
DEVELOPMENT OF SPACE AND LIGHT
OF A CHANGING COASTLINE BUT ALSO
LIKE TO CONVEY THE STRONG
SUPPORT OF THE CALIFORNIA
COASTAL PROTECTION NETWORK IN
ORANGE COUNTY COAST KEEPER THANK
YOU AND I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST
YOUR I VOTE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
. ANYONE ELSE IN THE COMMITTEE
ROOM AND SUPPORT OF SB 8 67.
SEEN NONE. MADAM MODERATOR
ANYONE ELSE IN SUPPORT ON THE
PHONE LINES TO SB 8 67. DO YOU
ARE IN SUPPORT OF SB 8 67. IT IS
ONE THAN ZERO ON YOUR PHONE. IT
IS 10 FOR SUPPORT. AND WE WILL
START WITH LINE NUMBER 76. HI MY
NAME IS LORETTA HALTER, AND I AM
A MEMBER OF THE VALLEY WOMEN'S
CLUB ENVIRONMENTAL DECISION. CAN
I STRONGLY STRONGLY OPPOSED AS B
3 96. WRONG BUILDING, BUT THANK
YOU FOR THAT. WE'RE TAKING
SUPPORT ON SB 8 67. IF YOU ARE
IN SUPPORTIVE SP H 671 OF THEM
ZERO. LINE NUMBER 59. LINE
NUMBER 59 YOU'RE OPEN. GOOD
AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS STEVEN
MYERS ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA STATE PARKS
FOUNDATION AND SUPPORT. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU TO LINE NUMBER
71. GOOD AFTERNOON. THIS IS TIM
DELFINO, REPRESENTING DEFENDERS
OF WILDLIFE AND SUPPORTIVE SB 8
67. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE
WILL GO TO LINE NUMBER 72. GOOD
AFTERNOON. DANIEL BRAD ON BEHALF
OF SIERRA CLUB, CALIFORNIA AND
SUPPORT THANK YOU. ARE LEFT IN
QUEUE FOR SUPPORT IS LINE NUMBER
40, PLEASE GO AHEAD. ECONOMIC
NAME IS LAURA HAIDER. I SUPPORT
SB 8 67. I LIVED IN FRESNO.
ALRIGHTWE HAVE NOBODY ELSE IN
QUEUE FOR SUPPORT. MR PIERRE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. BRING IT
BACK TO THE COMMITTEE ROOM.
ANYONE IN OPPOSITION TO SB 8 67
IN THE COMMITTEE ROOM. SEE NONE
. MADAM MODERATOR. ANYONE IN
OPPOSITION TO SB 8 67 ON THE
PHONE LINES. GREAT IF YOU'RE AN
OPPOSITION OF SB 8 67. IT IS ONE
OF THEM ZERO ON YOUR PHONE. AND
WE DO HAVE ONE IN Q AND IT IS
LINE NUMBER 40. PLEASE GO AHEAD.
FLIGHT NUMBER 40. YOUR LINE IS
OPEN. OKAY. WE DO HAVE ONE MORE.
ONE SECOND WHILE WE GET THE LINE
NUMBER HERE.
WE NEED SOME JEOPARDY MUSIC. THE
ONE THAT WAS THE WRONG ONE IN
LINE WAS FROM SANTA CRUZ COUNTY.
AND I THOUGHT NO, SHE CAN'T BE
OPPOSING THIS FILM. NUMBER
SEXUAL LINE IS OPEN. HELLO. CAN
YOU HEAR ME? WE CAN HEAR YOU.
I'M VIVIAN FROM PRESIDENT
CALIFORNIA AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE
THIS BILL. ALRIGHT MR CHAIR. WE
HAVE NO OTHERS IN QUEUE FOR
OPPOSITION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
BRING BACK TO THE COMMITTEE ROOM
TWEENER. COME ON UP, SIR. GOOD
AFTERNOON CHAIR AND MEMBERS
DEREK DOLPHIN BEHALF OF LEGAL
CALIFORNIA CITIES TODAY HERE TOO
QUICKLY EXPRESS OUR CONCERNS
POSITION ON THE BILL. FIRSTLY WE
WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT WE AGREE
WITH THE SENATORS INTENT AND
OVERALL GOAL OF THE BILL. C
LEVEL RISE IS A VERY SERIOUS
THREAT TO OUR COASTAL
COMMUNITIES. IN CAL CITIES AND
SISAK ARE ACTUALLY ACTUALLY
ACTIVELY WORKING IN PARTNERSHIP
WITH THE CALIFORNIA COASTAL
COMMISSION TO ADDRESS AND FIND
WAYS THAT SEA LEVEL RISE WILL
WILL BE ABLE TO BE MITIGATED IN
ALL OF OUR COASTAL COMMUNITIES.
CITIES SHOULD BE AND ACTIVELY
ARE WORKING TO DEVELOP SEA LEVEL
RISE PLANS TO MITIGATE AND ADAPT
TO THE EFFECTS OF SEA LEVEL
RISE. HOWEVER WE DO HAVE SOME
CONCERNS ABOUT THE WAY THIS BILL
WORKS. WE APPRECIATE THE
COMMITTEE AND THE CENTER,
ACCEPTING THE AMENDMENTS TO
CHANGE THE TIMELINE FROM 5 TO 10
YEARS FOR THE CIELO RISE
REQUIRED PLANNING. HOWEVER WE
CONTINUE TO BE CONCERNS ABOUT
TYING THE CREATION AND UPDATING
OF SEA LEVEL RISE PLANNING
DOCUMENTS TOOL, UPDATING A LOCAL
COASTAL PLAN AS IT WOULD BE
EXTREMELY COSTLY AND DIFFICULT
FOR CITIES TO DO SO. WE'D LIKE
TO SEE THE BILL AMENDED TO
DECOUPLE THE SEA LEVELS RISE
PLANNING REQUIREMENTS FROM
UPDATING A LOCAL COASTAL PLAN,
AND LASTLY, WE'RE CONCERNED
ABOUT THE ECONOMIC IMPACTS THAT
THIS BILL MIGHT HAVE ON CITY
BUDGETS, AND WE WANT TO ENSURE
THAT PRECIOUS LOCAL DOLLARS ARE
BEING SPENT IN THE MOST
IMPACTFUL WAYS TO ADDRESS THE
LEVEL RISE IN OUR COMMUNITIES.
WE WANT TO THANK THE SENATOR FOR
HIS ENGAGEMENT ON THE BILL AND
WANT TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH
HIM AS THE BILL MOVES FORWARD.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANYONE ELSE IN CONCERN? THANK
YOU. CATHERINE FREEMAN WITH THE
CALIFORNIA STATE ASSOCIATION OF
COUNTIES, JUST ECHOING MY
COLLEAGUE ERIC DOLPHY IS
COMMENTS AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO
WORKING WITH THE AUTHOR ON THE
BILL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO
MUCH ANYONE ELSE IN CONCERN OR
OPPOSITION? THE COMMITTEE ROOM.
SEEN NOW AND BRING IT BACK TO
THE COMMITTEE. STASH. MORNING UM
YES, I WANT TO THANK THE SENATOR
FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD. UM I
AM THE SELECT COMMITTEE CHAIR OF
THE ASSEMBLY OF THE ASSEMBLIES
THAT COMMAND SEE LEVEL RISE IN
CALIFORNIA ECONOMY. WE HAVE HELD
HEARINGS BOTH IN SOUTHERN
CALIFORNIA AND NORTHERN
CALIFORNIA. THERE'S ABSOLUTELY
TIMELY AND I FEAR YOU KNOW AS
MUCH AS THE LEGAL CITIES MAY NOT
WANT TO TIE IT IN THE CITIES AND
COUNTIES DON'T WANT TO TIE IT TO
L. C. P S. IF WE DON'T TITLE
CPS, THEY'RE JUST GONNA BE SOME
JURISDICTIONS WHERE IT DOESN'T
HAPPEN, AND THEN IT'S GONNA BE
TOO LITTLE TOO LATE. SO I REALLY
APPRECIATE YOU ALL YOUR WORK ON
THE SPELL, AND I'D LOVE TO BE
ADDED AS A CO AUTHOR. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. ANYONE ELSE?
MURATSUCHI THANK YOU AS ANOTHER
REPRESENTATIVE, COASTAL DISTRICT
. I WOULD ALSO REQUEST THAT I BE
ADDED AS A CO AUTHOR, AND THANK
YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT YOUR WORK
ON THIS BILL. THANK YOU, SIR.
ANYONE ELSE IN SUPPORT OR
ACTUALLY, QUESTIONS FROM THE
COMMITTEE? SORRY ABOUT THAT
SCENE. THAT WAS THE RIGHT
QUESTION. IT WAS ACCURATE,
ACTUALLY. ALRIGHT, THIS. MR
CENTER. WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE
JUST GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK
WITH PEOPLE, BUT I APPRECIATE
THE COMMENTS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO
GET THIS DONE IN A WAY THAT
ACTUALLY WORKS, SO I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR VOTE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THE MOTIONS
DO PASSES HIS MEN INTO
APPROPRIATIONS. MR. SECRETARY
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ME CHARITY
FOR I WOULD LIKE TO RESPECTFULLY%
ASKED BEING COASTAL
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S ALSO TO BE A CO
AUTHOR BEFORE THANK YOU, IF
THAT'S ALRIGHT WITH SENATOR
SECRETARY. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
SB 8 67 DO PASSES AMENDED TO
APPROPRIATIONS FLORA FLORA I
BENNETT. I BOERNER HORVATH.
BOERNER HORVATH I. FRIEDMAN
FRIEDMAN, I MATHIS CÁC MCCARTY.
THE CARDI. I MERIT SUKI. SUKI. I
SEE ARTO. SEROTONIN Ó. WORD.
WOULD I? 8 TO 1. THE BILLS OUT,
SIR. THANK YOU. RIGHT. WE HAVE A
MOTION ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
SECRETARY PLEASE CALL THE ROLL
ON THIS CONSENT CALENDAR
CONSENT. ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR
. FLORA I, BENNETT BENNETT. I
BOERNER HORVATH BOERNER HORVATH
I. FRIEDMAN. FRIEDMAN I MATHIS
TO SEE MCCARTHY. MCCARTHY. I
MURATSUCHI MURATSUCHI. AYE,
SARTO. CIERTO. I WOULD WOULD I?
ALRIGHT, CONSENT CALENDARS OUT
00. WE'LL GO BACK TO FILE ITEM
NUMBER ONE SB 3 96 DALI. ADAM
ABSENT MEMBERS. SP THREE SP 3
96. THE CURRENT VOTE IS 6 TO 0
BENNETT. LAURIE BENNETT, NOT
VOTING. IT'S. EVERYBODY'S
RECORDED ON THAT. THANK YOU AND. SMILE AT HIM, TOO, I THINK IS
OUT AND DONE. WINSTON YOU CAN
ADDRESS THIS MEETING IS
ADJOURNED. THANK YOU.