THERE ARE NO MORE MASK
REQUIREMENTS OR PHYSICAL
DISTANCING REQUIREMENTS FOR OUR
HEARINGS. COVID 19 HAS NOT GONE
AWAY TO SAFELY GO ABOUT OUR
DAILY LIVES. WE NEED TO KEEP
TAKING STEPS TO PREVENT THE
SPREAD. THEREFORE FOR THOSE WHO
ARE UNCOMFORTABLE PARTICIPATING
IN THE HEARING IN PERSON, WE
CONTINUE TO OFFER AN
ALTERNATIVE. WE HAVE TWO
DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR WITNESS
TESTIMONY TODAY. HERE LIVE IN
THE COMMITTEE ROOM OR BY
TELEPHONE. REPUBLIC IN THE ROOM
TODAY IN ROOM 1 26. IF ANY
MEMBER WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY,
PLEASE APPROACH THE MICROPHONE
AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME. YOU MAY
LINE UP AND WAIT TO TESTIFY OR
REMAIN SEATED UNTIL THE
MICROPHONE IS FREE. WHO HAD
ASKED THAT THE PUBLIC DOES NOT
TOUCH THE MICROPHONE. FOR
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WISH
TO COMMENT VIA TELEPHONE. THE
PUBLIC TOLL FREE NUMBER IS
877692. 8957. THE PUBLIC ACCESS
CODE IS 1315126. WITH A COUPLE
OF ANNOUNCEMENTS ON THE AGENDA.
ITEM. THREE SB 11 49 LABOR HAS
BEEN PULLED FROM THE HEARING
ITEM 10 A. J R. 35 34 MCCARTY IS
OFF THE CONSENT CALENDAR AND
WILL BE PRESENTED TODAY. THREE
ANIMALS. SENATOR KAMLAGER. IF
YOU WISH TO PRESENT ITEM ONE SB
10 55.
SUPPORT ARREARS. I AM ACCEPTING
COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS TO ENSURE
WE ARE ONLY TALKING ABOUT
SOMEONE'S PERSONAL DRIVER'S
LICENSE, NOT A COMMERCIAL
LICENSE. SENATE BILL 10 55 6 TO
ADDRESS PUNITIVE MEASURES TAKEN
AGAINST THOSE THAT HAVE FALLEN
INTO CHILD SUPPORT ARREARS.
SPECIFICALLY THIS BILL TARGETS
DRIVER'S LICENSE SUSPENSION
MANDATES. RELATED TO MS CHILD
SUPPORT PAYMENTS. CALIFORNIA
CURRENTLY HAS INCREDIBLY HIGH
PUNITIVE MEASURES IN PLACE FOR
CHILD SUPPORT ARREARS IN
ADDITION TO DRIVER'S LICENSE
SUSPENSION, THE STATE ALSO
IMPOSES A 10% INTEREST RATE ON
MISSED. PAYMENTS. YIKES. ON
THEIR OWN. THESE MEASURES ARE
OVERTLY PUNITIVE, BUT TAKEN
TOGETHER, THEY SEVERELY IMPACT
FAMILIES LIVES AND HAVE SHOWN NO
EVIDENCE OF INCREASING CHILD
SUPPORT PAYMENTS. LOW INCOME
NONCUSTODIAL PARENTS ARE ALREADY
STRUGGLING TO MAINTAIN BASIC
NECESSITIES, THE THREAT OF
LOSING THEIR DRIVER'S LICENSE
AND THEIR MEANS TO COMMUTE TO
WORK OR TO VISIT THEIR CHILDREN
CAN BE DEVASTATING. STUDIES
CONTINUE TO SHOW THAT NON
CUSTODIAL PARENTS WHO AREN'T
THREATENED WITH PUNITIVE
MEASURES TEND TO PAY THEIR CHILD
SUPPORT MORE CONSISTENTLY VISIT
MORE OFTEN WITH THEIR CHILDREN
AND HAVE A BETTER RELATIONSHIP
WITH THEIR CO PARENT. REPORTS
HAVE ALSO SHOWN THE CYCLE OF
UNEMPLOYMENT, INCARCERATION AND
DEBT ARE MORE PREVALENT WHEN
PARENTS ARE SUBJECTED TO
AGGRESSIVE ENFORCEMENT. SB 10 55
WILL ADDRESS THE ISSUES OF
DESTRUCTIVE CHILD SUPPORT
ARREARS MANDATES WITH A TWOFOLD
APPROACH. FIRST CHILD SUPPORT
SERVICES WILL NOT BE ALLOWED TO
NOTIFY DMV TO SUSPENDED DRIVER'S
LICENSE DUE TO CHILD SUPPORT
ARREARS IF THE INDIVIDUAL MAKES
AT OR BELOW 60% OF THE COUNTY
MEDIAN INCOME. SECOND IT WILL
EXTEND THE CURRENT DCS S
PRACTICE OF DMV OF OVERDUE CHILD
SUPPORT PAYMENTS TO NO MORE THAN
SIX MONTHS. THIS EXTENSION FROM
30 DAYS TO SIX MONTHS WILL ALIGN
WITH THE STATE'S DEPARTMENT OF
CHILD SUPPORT SERVICES. SO IN
CLOSING 90% OF PEOPLE IN ARREARS
ARE CONSIDERED POOR. THERE IS NO
PROOF THAT THESE PUNITIVE
MEASURES WORK, IT IS
COUNTERINTUITIVE TO EXPECT
SOMEONE TO PAY THEIR CHILD
SUPPORT. WHEN WE HAVE TAKEN AWAY
THEIR MEANS TO GET A JOB OR KEEP
A JOB. CALIFORNIA MUST NOT
CONTINUE TO PUNISH SOMEONE WHO
WAS IN TERRIBLE FINANCIAL
CIRCUMSTANCE WHO WANTS TO
CONTRIBUTE AND BE A PART OF
THEIR FAMILY. I ALSO WANT TO ADD
THAT THIS BILL HAS BIPARTISAN
SUPPORT. WITH ME HERE IN SUPPORT
IS MICHAEL HAROLD FROM THE
WESTERN CENTER ON LAW AND
POVERTY AND ON THE PHONE LINE AS
PAUL GUEVARA FROM CALIFORNIA
FAMILIES RISE, WHO IS AN
IMPACTED PARENTS AT THE
APPROPRIATE TIME? I WOULD
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR I
VOTE. THANK YOU, SENATOR. I
SHOULD HAVE EXCUSE ME. I SHOULD
HAVE MENTIONED WE ARE MEETING AS
A SUBCOMMITTEE UNTIL WE GET A
QUORUM. UH PLEASE, PRESENT, SIR
. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR AND
MEMBERS MIKE CARROLL WITH THE
WESTERN CENTER ON LAW AND
POVERTY. AND WERE SPONSORS OF
THIS MEASURE ALONG WITH OTHER
ORGANIZATIONS, AND THIS IS
ANOTHER ISSUE THAT WE'RE
BRINGING FORWARD TO THE
LEGISLATURE, WHICH AGAIN GETS AT
THIS INTERSECTION OF HOW YOU
KNOW THESE PUNITIVE MEASURES
THAT WE HAVE PUT IN PLACE OVER
TIME TO ATTEMPT TO COLLECT DEBT
FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE VERY POOR.
AND WE KNOW FROM THE DATA THAT
WHEN PEOPLE LOSE THEIR DRIVER'S
LICENSES, THAT ABOUT 40% OF
THOSE FOLKS ALSO LOSE THEIR JOBS
, AND THEY SUBSEQUENTLY EITHER
LOSE ALL OF THEIR INCOME OR HAVE
A DECREASE IN THEIR INCOME. SO
IN IN EFFECT, THE USE OF A
LICENSE SUSPENSION AS A
COLLECTION METHOD. ACTUALLY
WORKS AGAINST THE INTERESTS OF
THOSE ATTEMPTING TO COLLECT
THOSE MONIES BECAUSE PEOPLE
DON'T HAVE MONEY OR WORK TO
COLLECT FROM, AND SO THAT IS THE
REASON THAT WE'RE BRINGING THIS
FOURTH WE THINK THIS WILL
ACTUALLY BOTH HELPED THE
CHILDREN, WHICH IS WHAT CHILD
SUPPORT IS ALL ABOUT. IT WILL
INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF
COLLECTIONS BY ALLOWING PEOPLE
TO KEEP THEIR LICENSES. AND IT
WILL, UM AH, ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO
BE ABLE TO KEEP THEIR WORK AND
EVEN LOOK FOR BETTER WORK AS
THEY GO FORWARD, SO WE'RE
STRONGLY IN SUPPORT OF THIS
MEASURE. THANK YOU. OPERATOR. DO
WE HAVE ANOTHER WITNESS ON THE
PHONE? AND THIS IS LINE IS OPEN.
REACH IS THERE A MINUTE AGO?
IT'S A IF THE WITNESS COULD
PLEASE ON MUTUAL ON JULY.
HERE TO INFORMATION. LOOKS LIKE
MR RIVERA HAS DROPPED. OKAY,
MAYBE CONNECTED AT THIS TIME.
LET US KNOW IF HE GUITAR WILL
CIRCLE BACK. ANY WITNESSES AND
OPPOSITION TO THE BILL. I'M
SORRY. MY BAD. ANY WITNESSES IN
THE ROOM WISHING TO SPEAK IN
SUPPORT OF THE BILL. SEEING NONE
. MR. OPERATOR WOULD YOU PLEASE
OPEN THE PHONE LINES FOR
WITNESSES AND SUPPORT. SPEAK IN
SUPPORT. PRESS ONE, THEN ZERO AT
THIS TIME. AN AT AND T
SPECIALIST WILL PROVIDE YOU WITH
YOUR LINE NUMBER AND WE'LL OPEN
YOUR LINE. WHEN WE'RE READY FOR
YOU. WE WILL FIRST GO TO LINE 34
GO AHEAD, PLEASE. GOOD MORNING.
HELLO CHAIR AND MEMBERS. MY NAME
IS SEAN YOUNG WITH THE FINANCIAL
JUSTICE PROJECT AND THE OFFICE
OF THE SAN FRANCISCO TREASURER,
CALLING IN AS A MEMBER OF THE
TRUTH AND JUSTICE AND CHILD
SUPPORT COALITION TO VOICE OUR
STRONG SUPPORT FOR SB 10 55. I
JUST WANT TO ECHO THE COMMENTS
MADE BY THE WESTERN CENTER AND
SAY THAT WE KNOW THAT A BETTER
WAY TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO PAY
THEIR CHILD SUPPORT DEBT AND
THEN SUSPENDING THEIR DRIVER'S
LICENSES. FOR EXAMPLE, OUR
OFFICE ANALYZED THE IMPACT OF
ENDING DRIVER'S LICENSE
SUSPENSIONS FOR FAILURE TO PAY
TRAFFIC TICKETS ON COURT
COLLECTIONS. IN SAN FRANCISCO
AND CALIFORNIA, UM, FIGHTING
THAT THERE WAS NO NEGATIVE
IMPACT ON REVENUE COLLECTION
AFTER WE STOPPED SUSPENDING
DRIVER'S LICENSE FOR FAILURE TO
PAY TRAFFIC TICKETS IN SAN
FRANCISCO SUPERIOR COURT. AND
WHEN THE STATE FOLLOWED FOLLOWED
OUR LEAD AND ENDED DRIVER'S
LICENSE SUSPENSIONS FOR FAILURE
TO PAY TRAFFIC TICKETS STATEWIDE
ON TIME COLLECTIONS ACTUALLY
WENT UP. IN OTHER WORDS, WE
DON'T NEED TO USE A HARSH,
EXCESSIVELY PUNITIVE TOOL LIKE A
DRIVER'S LICENSE SUSPENSION TO
GET PEOPLE TO PAY THEIR DEBTS.
PEOPLE RELY ON THEIR CARS TO GET
TO WORK, AND THEY CAN'T LEGAL IN
IN THAT THEY CAN'T LEGALLY DRIVE
. THEY CAN'T WORK AND THEY CAN'T
WORK. THEY CAN'T PAY THE CHILD
SUPPORT DEBT. IT'S COMPLETELY
COUNTERPRODUCTIVE. 3 10 55 WOULD
END CYCLES OF POVERTY AND ALLOW
FOR PARENTS TO BETTER SUPPORT
THEIR CHILDREN AND CO PARENT
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, AND WE
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR VOTE.
OUR WITNESSES STYLE. MR
OPERATOR, DO WE HAVE THE OTHER
MAIN WITNESS IN SUPPORT? ON THE
ONE ONE MOMENT, PLEASE.
OKAY AND THEN IN THE NAME OF
THAT PARTY AGAIN ONCE AGAIN. OH,
GIBARA, PAUL GUEVARA. MR
GUEVARA. IF YOU ARE ON, PLEASE
GO AHEAD. I'M SORRY. I'M NOT
SEEING HIS LINE. UH, I'M TELLING
YOU, HE IS ON MR GUEVARA, YOUR
LINE IS OPEN AND PLEASE CHECK
YOUR MUTE FEATURE. ONE MOMENT,
PLEASE. MR GRAB A VERY AIRLINE
SHOULD BE OPEN NOW. FULLER. YOU
HEAR ME? YES, SIR. GO AHEAD. MY
LIFE. CAN YOU HEAR ME? WE CAN
PLEASE PROCEED. OKAY. THANK YOU.
UM. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS
PARK AVARA AND THE DATA THAT I
BECAME A FATHER WAS ONE OF THE
BEST DAYS OF MY LIFE. AND I WAS
DETERMINED TO CRY FOR MY
CHILDREN TO THIS AND HOWARD%
LARGE, LONG HOURS AND WHICH
CONTRIBUTED TO MY WIFE'S
INFIDELITY AND TO THE END OF MY
MARRIAGE. AFTER DRAWN OUT
DIVORCE FROM THE MOVE AWAY
ORDERS TO MOVE WITH HER NEW
BOYFRIEND TO UTAH. BUT WITH OUR
CHILDREN IN THE BLINK OF AN EYE,
I LOST EVERYTHING WHEN THE JUDGE
RULED IN FAVOR OF THE MOVE AWAY.
NOT ONLY DID I LOSE MY CHILDREN
WHO I LOVE DEARLY, BUT I WAS
THEN ORDERED TO PAY CHILD
SUPPORT THAT I COULD NOT AFFORD.
FOR THE CHILDREN. I CAN NO
LONGER SEE I WAS STILL AND I WAS
AND STILL AM DEVASTATED. I HAVE
NOT SEEN MY CHILDREN SIX YEARS
BECAUSE MY EX AND THE
STAKEHOLDERS AGAINST ME THAT I
AM BEHIND ON CHILD SUPPORT
PAYMENTS. I HAVE WORKED MINIMUM
WAGE JOBS AND SUB MINIMUM WAGE
JOBS. MY ENTIRE LIFE ON FARMS
AND FARMERS, MARKETS AND
FISHERIES. MOREOVER THERE HAVE
BEEN PERIODS OF UNEMPLOYMENT
ABILITY WHERE I WAS NOT EARNING
ANY INCOME AT ALL. BUT I WAS
ORDERED TO PAY CHILD SUPPORT AT
AN AMOUNT. HIGHER THAN I COULD
AFFORD. BECAUSE THE SYSTEM
BELIEVES THAT LIKED IT AND
SHOULD BE ANYMORE. BECAUSE I'M
IN ARREARS ON CHILD SUPPORT. I
HAVE LOST THE ABILITY TO DRIVE
OUT VISIT AND SPEND QUALITY TIME
WITH MY CHILDREN. IT'S BEEN SIX
YEARS. MAKE SURE THAT HAVE BEEN
DENIED THEIR FATHER VISITATIONS
, LOVE AND AFFECTION. BECAUSE OF
THESE LAWS. I LIVE IN REAL
MARRIAGE BILL IN THE HOUSE. BUT
NOW HE'S NO AIR CONDITIONING AND
I KNOW BUT I RELY ON MY
NEIGHBORS TO THE ONCE A MONTH TO
THE SUPERMARKET AND TWO RUNNER
AND I'M CURRENTLY TRYING TO
IMPROVE MY SITUATION. BY
ATTENDING COLLEGE SO THAT I CAN
PAY OFF MY CHILD SUPPORT ARREARS
TO GET MY DRIVER'S LICENSE BACK
AND HOPEFULLY TO LIVE A NORMAL
LIFE ONE DAY WITH SOME STATE
ABILITY MAYBE IF I DO ALL THAT I
WILL BE ABLE TO SEE MY CHILDREN
AGAIN. LOSING MY DRIVER'S
LICENSE HAS CAUSED ME GREAT
HARM. AFTER SUFFERING SO MANY
YEARS FROM CRIPPLING CHILD
SUPPORT OBLIGATION THAT DID NOT
TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION BY
CIRCUMSTANCES. I HAD. IT HAS
HINDERED MY ABILITY TO LOOK FOR
A JOB BECAUSE I HAVE TO WALK
BIKE BUS TO WHERE I AM GOING. I
DON'T LIVE IN A BIG CITY WHERE
BUSSES AND TRANSPORTATION ARE
CLOSE BY EVEN THE SUPERMARKET IS
AN HOUR. CAN YOU PLEASE WRAP UP
YOUR COMMENTS? THANK YOU. UM I
HAVE TO WALK AND BIKE IN THE
WINTER COLD IN THE RANGE OF THE
SUMMER HEAT AT TIMES IN THE DARK
EARLY MORNINGS LATE AT NIGHT,
BECAUSE I DO NOT HAVE RUNNING
WATER AND ASSESS CITIES HAVE TO
DO ALICE FAVORS FOR MY NEIGHBORS
SO THAT THEY CAN JUST TAKE ME.
DO LAUNDRY, ARGUED TO VOTE IN
FAVOR OF SP THEM TO DEFY BECAUSE
DRIVER LICENSE SUSPENSIONS IN
SITUATIONS LIKE MINE ONLY SERVED
TO HER CHILDREN AND FAMILIES.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. AT
THIS POINT, WE'LL PAUSE FOR ONE
SECOND ON THE BILL PRESENTATION
TO ESTABLISH A QUORUM. HERE.
DAVIES HANEY, CHOLERA KYLIE
MAIENSCHEIN REYES. RIVAS COOLEY.
HERE. THANK YOU. OPERATOR ARE
THERE ANY OTHER WITNESSES TO
SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL,
AND I WOULD ASK THAT YOU JUST
STATE, YOUR NAME ORGANIZATION
AND YOUR POSITION, SUPPORT OR
OPPOSE. WE'LL GO TO LINE 36.
PRESLEY 10 55. THANK YOU. THERE
ARE NO NO FURTHER LINES IN Q IT
THIS THANK YOU. MOVING NOW TO
OPPOSITION WITNESSES. ARE THERE
ANY WITNESSES TO SPEAK IN
OPPOSITION IN THE ROOM? SEEING
NONE. MR OPERATOR, WOULD YOU
PLEASE OPEN THE PHONE LINES FOR
WITNESSES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION
TO THE BILL? SPEAKING OPPOSITION
FIRST ONE, THEN ZERO AT THIS
TIME. MR CHAIRMAN. WE HAVE NO.
ONE IN CUBA AT THIS TIME. THANK
YOU. PLEASE CLOSE THE PHONE
LINES FOR SB 10 55. NOW IT'S
TIME FOR QUESTIONS FROM
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. SEEING NONE.
SENATOR KAMLAGER. WOULD YOU LIKE
TO CLOSE? LOCUSTS I'M GONNA GO
WITH THE FLOW AND RESPECTFULLY
ASK FOR YOUR EYES. THANK YOU. WE
NEED A MOTION TO PASS AS
AMENDED. THE MOTION IS DUE PASS
AS AMENDED TO APPROPRIATIONS.
TWO PARENTS. SHE SAID SHE WAS
GOING TO. YES ALREADY THE MOTION
IS DUE PASS TO APPROPRIATIONS.
WE, UH, HAVE A MOTION BY MR
COOLEY. WE NEED A SECOND.
SECONDED BY MR BLOOM. PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL CUNNINGHAM VOTING.
BLOOM. BOOM I DAVIES DAVIES. NO
HANEY! HANEY I CHOLERA! CHOLERA
I KYLIE MAIENSCHEIN RAISE
REVERSE COOLEY. AYE. THAT BUILDS
ON CALL NEEDS TWO MORE VOTES TO
PASS. MOVING ON TO OUR SECOND
ITEM FOR TODAY S B 602, SENATOR
LAIRD. PLEASE PROCEED WHEN
READY. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR UM
SENATE BILL 602 REQUIRES THE
JUDICIAL COUNCIL TO DEVELOP A
MANDATORY CARE PLAN BY A FORM BY
JANUARY 1ST 2024. FOR THE CARE
OF PROBATE CONSERVATORSHIPS. I
WANT TO THANK THE COMMITTEE
STAFF FOR WORKING WITH MY OFFICE
ON THIS BILL. WE TOOK AMENDMENTS
BEFORE WE GOT TO THE COMMITTEE.
I THINK THAT THAT PUT IT IN GOOD
SHAPE IN 2000 AND SIX CHIEF
JUSTICE RON GEORGE APPOINTED
JUDICIAL COUNCIL PROBATE
CONSERVATORSHIP TASK FORCE, AND
THEY RECOMMENDED ADOPTING A
UNIFORM MANDATORY JUDICIAL
COUNCIL FORM FOR THE SUBMISSION
OF THE CARE PLAN. AND COMBINING
EXISTING LEVEL OF CARE
EVALUATIONS WITH THE CARE PLAN
IN ONE FORM. THIS BILL
IMPLEMENTS THAT RECOMMENDATION.
SOME COURTS SUCH AS LOS ANGELES
SUPERIOR COURT HAVING DEVELOPED
MORE DETAILED CARE PLAN FORMS,
AND THERE'S VALUE FOR UNIFORM
CARE PLAN FORM EXISTED
CONTAINING THIS INFORMATION. THE
MOST RECENT SET OF AMENDMENTS
ADDRESS CONCERNS RAISED BY
STAKEHOLDERS. SPECIFICALLY THE
BILL PROVIDES AN ADDITIONAL 30
DAYS TO SUBMIT THE CARE PLAN TO
THE COURT 60 DAYS IN TOTAL.
ENSURES THE PERSONAL INFORMATION
INCLUDED IN THE CARE PLAN IS
CONFIDENTIAL AND PROVIDES THE
COURT WITH DISCRETION IF THEY
DEEM A PENALTY IS NECESSARY FOR
FAILING TO SUBMIT THE CARE PLAN.
OF THIS BILL LAST YEAR DIDN'T
MAKE THE CUT TO BE ONE OF THE 12
BILLS. AH THAT, UM, THAT I HAD
IN DUE TO THE LIMIT OF LAST YEAR
. IT'S RECEIVED BIPARTISAN
SUPPORT. NO NO VOTES. I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR VOTE.
AND I DON'T HAVE A MAIN WITNESS,
BUT I KNOW THAT WILL PROBABLY BE
PEOPLE ON THE LINE. THANK YOU,
SENATOR. WE HAVE A MOTION THIS
DAVIES SECONDED BY MR KALRA.
THAT MOTION IS DUE PASS TO
APPROPRIATIONS. BUT FIRST WE'LL
RUN THROUGH BEFORE WE TAKE A
VOTE. AH NO MAIN WITNESSES. SO
OPERATOR, PLEASE OPEN THE PHONE
LINES FOR WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF SB 602,
PLEASE PRESS ONE, THEN ZERO AT
THIS TIME. WE HAVE A LINE
QUEUING UP ONE MOMENT WHILE WE
PROVIDE THEIR LINE NUMBER.
OKAY WE WILL GO TO LINE 46 GO
AHEAD, PLEASE. LINDY KINCAID,
WITH COALITION FOR ELDER AND
DISABILITY RIGHTS AND SUPPORT.
WE HAVE NO FURTHER LINES IN
CUBA. THIS TIME, MR CHAIRMAN.
THANK YOU, MR OPERATOR MOVING
NOW TO OPPOSITION WITNESSES. DO
WE HAVE ANYONE IN THE ROOM TO
SPEAK IN OPPOSITION? PLEASE
APPROACH THE MICROPHONE. OR THE
DESK. THAT'S FINE. MR CHAIRMAN
MEMBERS, TRENT SMITH ON BEHALF
OF THE STATE ASSOCIATION OF
PUBLIC ADMINISTRATORS, PUBLIC
CONSERVATORS AND PUBLIC
GUARDIAN'S. FORTUNATELY WE ARE
HERE OPPOSED TODAY. WHERE WE
SUPPORT THE GOAL OF IMPROVING
THE CONSERVATORSHIP PROGRAM AND
WE'VE BEEN WORKING TO DO SO AS
LONG AS THE RECOMMENDATIONS PUT
FORTH IN THIS BILL HAD BEEN
AROUND BACK IN 2000 AND SEVEN
WITH THE PROBATE CONSERVATORSHIP
TASK FORCE ARE BIG ISSUE IS
THERE IS THAT THE STATE
CONTINUES TO COME UP WITH MORE
MANDATES FOR OUR MEMBERS TO
PROVIDE DIFFERENT SERVICES
PROVIDE MORE SERVICES TO PROVIDE
THEM IN A DIFFERENT MANNER. AND
YET THEY HAVE YET TO COME UP
WITH ANY STATE FUNDING TO HELP
SUPPORT THIS DESPERATELY NEEDED
SERVICE, AND IN FACT, THE.
PROBATE M TASK FORCE. IN
ADDITION TO THE CARE PLAN PUT
FORTH IN THIS BILL. ITEM 49 OF
THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS, SAID
PUBLIC GUARDIAN AND PUBLIC
CONSERVATIVES ARE KEY JUSTICE
SYSTEM PARTNERS AND THEIR
PROGRAMS AND SERVICES SHOULD BE
ADEQUATELY FUNDED. AND THAT HAS
YET TO HAPPEN IN 15 YEARS OF OUR
ADVOCACY FOR ADEQUATE FUNDING
AND INCLUDED THIS YEAR WHEN WE
MADE A BUDGET REQUEST OF $200
MILLION FOR THE STATE TO HELP
SUPPORT THESE COUNTY SERVICES.
SO IF YOU REALLY WANT TO HELP
IMPROVED THE CONSERVATORSHIP
PROGRAM. AGAIN THE BEST WAY TO
DO IT IS TO PROVIDE SOME STATE
FUNDING TO THE COUNTIES SO THAT
THEY CAN LOWER THEIR CASELOADS
AND PROVIDE THESE SERVICES AND
PROVIDE MORE ADEQUATE CASE PLANS
AND OVERSIGHT OF THE PEOPLE
THERE. THEY'RE CARING FOR.AND
UNFORTUNATELY THE LEGISLATURE
AND THE GOVERNOR HAS YET TO DO
THAT. AND SO UNTIL THE TIME THAT
THE STATE STEPS UP TO BE A
PARTNER, UM WE WILL CONTINUE TO
OPPOSE BILLS THAT ASK US TO DO
MORE OR DIFFERENT THINGS WITH
REGARDS TO PROVIDING THE CARE
FOR OUR INDIVIDUALS. I WILL
ADMIT THE BILL HAS IMPROVED FROM
A TIMING STANDPOINT AND PROVIDES
MORE TIME. UM AND THE FEE HAS OR
THE FINE HAS BEEN LOWERED. BUT
ESSENTIALLY, WHAT YOU'RE GOING
TO HAVE IS IF THEY COUNTY
EMPLOYEE FAILS TO MEET THIS
REQUIREMENT. A COURT MAY IMPOSE
$1000 FINES THAT MEANS THE
COUNTY OF SANTA CRUZ OR
SACRAMENTO OR SAN LUIS OBISPO
WOULD BE PAYING $1000 FINE FOR
ONE OF THEIR EMPLOYEES NOT
MEETING UM, THE BILL SO AGAIN.
UNFORTUNATELY WE'RE OPPOSED. WE
WOULD SUGGEST REMOVING THE
PUBLIC CONSERVATORS FROM THE
BILL AND WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO
CONTINUE DISCUSSIONS WITH ANY
LEGISLATOR WANTS TO IMPROVE THE
CONSERVATORSHIP PROGRAM. BUT IN
OUR ESTIMATION THAT'S GOING TO
HAVE TO INCLUDE SOME SOME
FUNDING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU,
SIR. ANYONE ELSE IN THE HEARING
ROOM WISHING TO SPEAK IN
OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL? SEEING
NO ONE. MR OPERATOR, PLEASE OPEN
THE PHONE LINES FOR WITNESSES
WISHING TO UH, OPPOSED THE BILL.
AND I'D ASK THAT YOU PLEASE JUST
STATE, YOUR NAME ORGANIZATION
AND YOUR POSITION ON THE BILL.
TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION PRESS
ONE, THEN ZERO AT THIS TIME. MR
CHAIRMAN, WE HAVE NO LINES
QUEUING UP. THANK YOU. PLEASE
CLOSE THE PHONE LINES FOR SP 602
. NOW IT'S TIME FOR QUESTIONS
FROM THE COMMITTEE. WE ARE A
SLEEPY BUNCH THIS MORNING.
SEEING NONE. AH MR LATER. WOULD
YOU LIKE TO CLOSE THINK IT'S
GOOD TO HAVE A HEARING EARLY IN
THE MORNING AFTER AN ELECTION
FOR PEOPLE NOT TO ASK HER
QUESTIONS. I WOULD JUST
APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS THAT
WERE MADE. THAT IN FACT, ON THE
SUBSTANCE WE'VE MOVED CLOSER TO
THEIR CONCERNS ON THE MONEY. WE
STILL ARE COMMITTED TO WORK ON
IT, AND THERE WAS A MAJOR BILL.
ADOPTED LAST YEAR BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S LOAD THAT IS IN
THE SAME CATEGORY WITH REGARD TO
MONEY, AND I THINK WE DO HAVE TO
WORK ON THAT. BUT WE DO HAVE TO
MAKE THE PROCESS RIGHT. AND SO I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN IDEA.
THANK YOU, SIR. THERE HAS BEEN A
MOTION AND A SECOND IT IS DO
PASS TO APPROPRIATIONS. PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL. CUNNINGHAM AM I
BLOOM? BLEW MY DAVIES DAVIES I,
HANEY ER KORA. COBRA I KYLIE
MAIENSCHEIN RAISE RIVERS COOLEY
HIGH. AND THAT BUILDS OUT. NEXT
WE HAVE AS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED
ITEM THREE SB 11 49 WAS
WITHDRAWN FOR TODAY'S PURPOSES.
MOVING TO ITEM FOUR. SB ONE. OH,
SEVEN, SENATOR WIENER. YOU MAY
BEGIN SER. MM. THANK YOU. THANK. GO AHEAD. THANK YOU, MR
CHAIRMAN. UH COLLEAGUES I'M CO
PRESENTING TODAY WITH PRINCIPAL
CO AUTHOR ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
WILSON. AH SENATE BILL ONE. OH,
SEVEN COLLEAGUES, SENATE BILL
ONE. OH, SEVEN IS A BILL THAT I
WISH I DIDN'T HAVE NOT HAD TO,
UH, INTRODUCE, UH AND WE'RE
DOING THIS. UM BECAUSE OF
HORRIFIC WAVE OF LEGISLATION.
AND VARIOUS STATES, INCLUDING
ALABAMA AND TEXAS AND OTHERS.
THE ALABAMA LAW HAS ACTUALLY
BEEN PASSED INTO LAW AND IS IN
EFFECT. CRIMINALIZING TREND. THE
FAMILIES OF TRANS CHILDREN
BASICALLY PROVIDING THAT IF
PARENTS ALLOW THEIR TRANS KIDS
TO RECEIVE GENDER AFFIRMING CARE
THE CHILD. THE TRANS CHILD WILL
BE REMOVED FROM THE HOME AND
PLACED IN FOSTER CARE. THE
PARENT WILL BE PUT IN PRISON AND
THE DOCTOR WILL BE PUT IN PRISON
AS WELL. UM THESE LAWS ARE
ABSOLUTELY VILE. THEY SEND A
PROFOUND SIGNAL TO LGBTQ
CHILDREN AROUND THE COUNTRY THAT
THAT THEY ARE EITHER NOT REAL.
UM AND THAT THEY'RE TRYING AND
THEY'RE GOING TO BE ERASED, AND
IT'S NO SURPRISE THAT WE SEE THE
LEVELS OF SELF HARM AND SUICIDE
, FRANKLY AMONG LGBTQ YOUTH IN
THIS COUNTRY WHEN WE HAVE
POWERFUL POLITICIANS AND STATES
SENDING THESE MESSAGES WE NEED
TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE FAMILIES
HAVE A PLACE TO GO IF THEY DO
NOT FEEL SAFE IN THE STATE,
WHERE THEY RESIDE. WE NEED TO
MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT
ALLOWING, OR WE'RE NOT BEING A
PARTY TO THE CRIMINALIZATION OF
THESE FAMILIES TO THE TEARING
APART OF THESE FAMILIES, SO WHAT
SB ONE OF SEVEN WILL DO? IS IT
DOES THREE THINGS. FIRST OF ALL,
IT MAKES CLEAR THAT WHEN, UH,
FAMILY. COMES TO CALIFORNIA, AND
THERE IS AN ISSUE IN TERMS OF
CUSTODY OR ANYTHING ELSE IN
THEIR HOME STATE THAT CALIFORNIA
IS NOT GOING TO APPLY THE LAW OF
THE OTHER STATES. THAT WE'RE
GOING TO APPLY OUR OWN LAWS,
WHICH UPLIFTS AND PROTECTS, UH,
ENTRIES WITH DIGNITY. TRANS KIDS
AND THEIR FAMILIES WERE NOT
GOING TO APPLY THESE OTHER LAWS
IN OUR COURTS. NUMBER TWO MAKES
CLEAR THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO
HONOR SUBPOENAS FROM OTHER
STATES TO SEEK RECORDS RELATING
TO THESE SITUATIONS. UM AH. SO
THAT WE ARE AGAIN NOT BEING A
PARTY TO THE ENFORCEMENT OF
THESE HORRIFIC LAWS AND NOT
GOING TO ALLOW FOR MEDICAL OR
OTHER RECORDS TO BE SUBPOENAED.
FROM CALIFORNIA INTO THESE OTHER
STATES, AND THEN FINALLY, IT
DIRECTS LA ENFORCEMENT. UM UH,
TO BOTH DE PRIORITIZE AND NOT TO
BE INVOLVED. IN THE ENFORCEMENT
OF THE LAWS OF THESE OTHER
STATES AND THE CASE OF
EXTRADITION. IT DIRECTS LAW
ENFORCEMENT TO PARTICIPATE OR
DIRECTS THE COURTS TO ORDER
EXTRADITION ONLY WHEN ABSOLUTELY
REQUIRED BY THE UNITED STATES
CONSTITUTION BECAUSE THERE IS A
SPECTRUM OF WHEN EXTRADITION IS
MANDATED, AS OPPOSED TO SIMPLY
ALLOWABLE SO THIS BILL IF
ENACTED INTO LAW WITHIN THE VERY
CLEAR MESSAGE THAT CALIFORNIA
STANDS WITH OUR TRANS KIDS AND
THEIR FAMILIES AND THE POSITIONS
WHO PROVIDE THEM WITH CARE. AND
WE ARE NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING
UNLESS WE ARE ABSOLUTELY
MANDATED BY THE CONSTITUTION TO
FACILITATE THE DESTRUCTION OF
THESE OF THESE FAMILIES. SO I
NOW WANT TO BEFORE WE GET TO OUR
WITNESSES ASK TURNED OVER TO MY
PARTNER IN THIS LEGISLATION.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S WILSON THANK
YOU. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR AND
MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY. I
MEAN, SORRY COMMITTEE FOR
ALLOWING ME TO SAY A FEW BRIEF
WORDS TODAY AND THANK YOU,
SENATOR WIENER. FOR AUTHORING
THIS IMPORTANT PIECE OF
LEGISLATION. MEMBERS I SAID
BEFORE YOU HERE TODAY AS THE
ONLY KNOWN PARENT OF A
TRANSGENDER CHILD TO SERVE IN
THE CALIFORNIA LEGISLATURE IN
OUR STATE'S HISTORY. AND AT THIS
MOMENT IN HISTORY, WHERE
POLITICAL LEADERS AROUND THE
COUNTRY HAVE HYPOCRITICALLY UM,
RIGHTS. UM ARE ATTACKING THE
LGBT, PLUS COMMUNITY AND
PARENTS' RIGHTS. I STAND HERE
TODAY AND SOLIDARITY. WHERE MY
COLLEAGUE FROM SAN FRANCISCO TO
SUPPORT SB 107. MY SON. WHO WAS
BORN FEMALE. UM TOOK TIME TO
TRANSITION. HE WAS IN HIS TEENS
BEFORE HE STARTED TO TALK ABOUT
, UM WHAT HE WAS FEELING FINDING
WORDS TO ARTICULATE, UM, THIS
SENSE OF OTHERNESS HE FELT IN
OUR FAMILY. AND IN HIS COMMUNITY
HIGH SCHOOL AND SUCH. AND SO WE
RE HE GOT A THERAPIST, AND WE
DID THERAPY AS A FAMILY AND WITH
HIM TO JUST GIVE HIM THE WORDS
AND GIVE THEM SPACE TO FIGURE
OUT, UM WHAT IT WAS, AND
EVENTUALLY HE DID. RECEIVED
GENDER AFFIRMING CARE BOTH
THROUGH THERAPY AND SURGICALLY.
AND I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT SOMEONE
WOULD INTERVENE IN THAT FOR OUR
FAMILY AS HE WALKED THROUGH
THAT, AND WE WALK THROUGH THAT
WITH HIM. AND IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL
THING, AND I TELL YOU I HAVE A
DIFFERENT CHILD. WHO WAS
STRUGGLING WITH DEPRESSION AND
ANXIETY BEFORE WE COULDN'T
PINPOINT WHAT IT WAS BECAUSE IN
OUR HOME IT WAS A HAPPY HOME. WE
SPENT TIME TOGETHER. THEY WERE
EVERYWHERE WITH US, BOTH OF OUR
SONS. AND THEN AFTER HE WENT
THROUGH THIS PROCESS, HAVE A
BRIGHT CHILD. HE IS HEALTHY AS
HAPPY HE'S GOING TO COLLEGE.
HE'S DOING WELL. HE IS ABLE TO
PROVIDE SUPPORT TO OTHER MEMBERS
OF MY FAMILY HAVE BEEN
STRUGGLING THIS THIS PAST
SUNDAY, WE HAD A TRAGEDY WHERE A
15 YEAR OLD FAMILY MEMBER
COMMITTED SUICIDE. BECAUSE THEY
FELT OTHER AND NOT FROM US, BUT
FROM THE SURROUNDING AREA FROM
THE COMMUNITY. AND THIS IS THE
GOVERNMENT IN THE STATES, SAYING
THAT YOU ARE OTHER AND YOU
SHOULD NOT EXIST AND THAT CANNOT
BE. WE CANNOT DO THAT CHILDREN
TO OUR CHILDREN TO SAY THEY
CANNOT EXIST. JUST FOR BEING
HERE. WE HAVE TO GIVE THEMTHE
OPPORTUNITY TO GROW. WE ALL
GROW. WE ALL EVOLVE AND WE HAVE
TO GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR
CHILDREN TO DO THAT IN A SAFE
PLACE. AND IF THERE ARE STATES
IN THIS COUNTRY THAT ARE NOT
PROVIDING A SAFE PLACE FOR
CHILDREN THAN CALIFORNIA HAS TO
BE THAT SAFE PLACE AND THAT'S
WHY SB ONE. OH, SEVEN IS SO
IMPORTANT. WE HAVE TO DO
EVERYTHING WE CAN TO PROJECT THE
LGBT PLUS COMMUNITY AS WELL AS
PROTECT THE RIGHT FOR EVERYONE
TO EXIST, NO MATTER WHO THEY
ARE. AND IT DEFINITELY SADDENS
ME TO SEE PEOPLE ARE BEING
ATTACKED JUST FOR EXISTING THINK
ABOUT THAT FOR A MINUTE. IF
SOMEONE ATTACKED YOU BECAUSE YOU
HAVE BLUE EYES OR BROWN EYES. OR
BLOND HAIR. BECAUSE YOU WERE TOO
TALL BECAUSE YOU WERE TOO FAT
BECAUSE YOU WERE TOO SHORT. JUST
THINK THAT'S THAT'S WHAT THIS
IS. ATTACKING YOU FOR BEING THE
ESSENCE OF WHO YOU ARE. SO I
THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY
TO CO PRESENT I THANK YOU FOR
GIVING ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO
SPEAK TODAY AND I RESPECTFULLY
ASK THE MEMBERS OF THIS
COMMITTEE FOR YOUR VOTE ON THIS
MEASURE. THANK YOU. MOVING TWO
WITNESSES IN THE COMMITTEE ROOM
AND SUPPORT CHAIRMAN OUR TO OUR
TWO WITNESSES OR ARE TOMMY
MARTIN, LEGISLATIVE DIRECTOR OF
EQUALITY, CALIFORNIA. AND
KATHLEEN MUEHLEGG, THE EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR OF TRANS FAMILY SUPPORT
SERVICE. THANK YOU. CHAIR AND
COMMITTEE MEMBERS TOMMY MARTIN
ON BEHALF OF EQUALITY,
CALIFORNIA AND AS AN L G B T Q
PLUS PERSON AND SOMEONE WHO ALSO
WORKS IN THE LEGISLATIVE SPACE.
IT HAS BEEN HARD TO WATCH
LEADERS AND OTHER STATES USE
LEGISLATION AND POLICY TO HARM
MY COMMUNITY AND HURT MY
FRIENDS. I'M SURE YOU'VE HEARD
THE HEADLINES. BUT TEXAS IS
TRYING TO JUSTIFY TAKING KIDS
AWAY FROM PARENTS WHO SUPPORT
THEM. IDAHO IS TRYING TO MAKE IT
A CRIME TO LEAVE THE STATE TO
OBTAIN GENDER AFFIRMING CARE.
ALABAMA IS TRYING TO CRIMINALIZE
GENDER AFFIRMING CARE AS WELL.
AND THESE ARE JUST A FEW
EXAMPLES. MAJOR MEDICAL
ASSOCIATIONS SUPPORT, GENDER
AFFIRMING CARE FOR TRANS YOUTH,
AND MANY OF THEM HAVE RECENTLY
ISSUED STATEMENTS AGAINST THE
CRIMINALIZATION OF IT. DATA
SHOWS THAT LGBTQ PLUS YOUTH ARE
LISTENING TO THESE DEBATES, AND
THEY ARE AFFECTED BY THEM. WITH
DEPRESSION, SUICIDALITY AND
ANXIETY ABOUT LEGISLATIVE
ATTACKS ON THE RISE IN THE PAST
YEAR. ON THE FLIP SIDE. WE ALSO
KNOW THAT PRO EQUALITY POLICIES
HELP TRANS YOUTH WHO NO SURPRISE
FARE BETTER HEN THEIR
COMMUNITIES SUPPORT THEM RATHER
THAN LEGISLATE AGAINST THEM. SP
ONE. OH, SEVEN IS A
DEMONSTRATION OF THAT SUPPORT
AND IT WILL HELP WE ARE GRATEFUL
FOR OUR MANY LEGAL PARTNERS WHO
HAVE INFORMED THIS EFFORT AND
FOR SENATOR WIENER FOR LEADING
ON THIS, AND WE'RE INCREDIBLY
PROUD TO CO SPONSOR SP 107 AND
RESPECTFULLY URGE THE COMMITTEE
SUPPORT AS WELL. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. NEXT WITNESS, PLEASE.
GOOD MORNING. FIRST I'M GOING TO
ASK FOR FORGIVENESS SITTING HERE
I AM VERY UNEXPECTEDLY
EMOTIONALLY OVERWHELMED. MY NAME
IS KATHY MUEHLEGG. SHE HEARD HER
MY PRONOUNS. I AM THE FOUNDER
AND EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF TRANS
FAMILY SUPPORT SERVICES. WHILE
BASED IN SAN DIEGO. WE HAVE
SERVED OVER 2400 TRANS YOUTH IN
THEIR FAMILY ACROSS THE COUNTRY
, INCLUDING THE CHAPTER IN
ALABAMA. RECENTLY ALABAMA PASSED
A LAW THAT CRIMINALIZES TRANSIT
FIRMING CARE FOR THOSE 19 AND
UNDER AS YOU MAY KNOW, ALABAMA
IS NOT THE ONLY STATE WITH THIS
HARMFUL LEGISLATION. THE LIES
DEVASTATING TO OUR YOUTH AND
FAMILIES. THE RATE OF ANXIETY,
DEPRESSION, SELF HARM AND
SUICIDE SUICIDE. ASIAN AMONG
THIS POPULATION IS SO VERY HIGH.
ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE WHO CANNOT
ACCESS APPROPRIATE MEDICAL CARE
, WHICH IS THE ONLY TREATMENT
FOR GENDER DYSPHORIA. AS THE
PARENT OF A TRANS YOUTH WHO
COULD NOT FIND MEDICAL CARE OVER
A DECADE AGO FOR MY YOUTH IN SAN
DIEGO, I KNOW THE FEELING OF
HOPELESSNESS AND HELPLESSNESS OF
THESE PARENTS. I WATCHED OUR
ALABAMA PARENTS STRUGGLE AT A
RECENT ZOOM MEETING, TRYING TO
FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY WOULD DO
NEXT TO KEEP THEIR KIDS ON THIS
TREATMENT, EVEN IF THAT MEANS
TRAVELING TO ANOTHER STATE. OR
PERHAPS HAVING TO MOVE SOME
STATES HAVE GONE AS FAR AS TO
TRY TO CRIMINALIZE PARENTS FOR
TRAVELING TO OTHER STATES FOR
THIS CARE. I KNOW I WOULD HAVE
GONE ANYWHERE AND STOPPED AT
NOTHING TO GET MY CHILD. THIS
LIFE CHANGING AND LIFE SAVING
CARE. I ALREADY HAVE FAMILIES WE
WORK WITH THAT TRAVELED TO
CALIFORNIA FOR CARE. AS WE ARE
FORTUNATE TO HAVE SOME OF THE
WORLD'S LEADING EXPERTS IN THE
FIELD RIGHT HERE IN CALIFORNIA.
CURRENTLY APPROXIMATELY 56,000
TRANS YOUTH ARE LIVING IN STATES
THAT MAY LOSE THEIR MEDICAL
CARE. THIS BILL WILL BRING
COMFORT AND CONFIDENCE TO THESE
VERY VULNERABLE FAMILIES TO HAVE
A SAFE PLACE TO OBTAIN THEIR USE
MEDICAL TREATMENT. ON BEHALF OF
THE THOUSANDS OF TRANS YOUTH AND
THEIR FAMILY. I URGE YOUR
SUPPORT ON THIS MEASURE. THANK
YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL
WITNESSES IN THE ROOM WISHING TO
SPEAK IN SUPPORT, PLEASE? STATE,
YOUR NAME ORGANIZATION AND
POSITION ONLY. GOOD MORNING, MR
CHAIR COMMITTEE MEMBERS,
JONATHAN CLAY HERE ON THE BEHALF
OF THE CITY OF INSTANT. ITO'S
VERY PLEASED TO BE HERE AND
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING, MOLLY ROBSON WITH
PLANNED PARENTHOOD AFFILIATES OF
CALIFORNIA, WHERE A CO SPONSOR
AND STRONG SUPPORT AND ALSO LIKE
TO ISSUE SUPPORT FOR THATLOS
ANGELES LGBT CENTER AND THE
NORTH COUNTY. L G B T Q.
RESOURCE CENTER. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. SEEING NO ADDITIONAL
WITNESSES IN THE ROOM. MR.
OPERATOR COULD YOU PLEASE OPEN
THE PHONE LINES FOR WITNESSES
AND SUPPORT OF SB ONE. OH,
SEVEN. AND PLEASE STATE YOUR
NAME POSITION AND ORGANIZATION.
THANK YOU FIRST GO TO LINE. 33
GO AHEAD, PLEASE. GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS DANNY CHOICE LOCK
CALLING ON BEHALF OF CALIFORNIA
COALITION FOR YOUTH AND SUPPORT
FOR SB ONE. OH, SEVEN. THANK YOU
HAVE A GREAT DAY. ONE MOMENT.
WE'LL GO NEXT TO LINE 24 GO
AHEAD, PLEASE. GOOD MORNING,
ISABELLA OR GRETA AND THE HALF
OF THE CALIFORNIA NURSING WIFE
ASSOCIATION IN A REAL PRO
CHOICE, CALIFORNIA AND STRONG
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. BEHIND 52.
GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD MORNING
CHAIR MEMBERS, COLLIN HOLLY ON
BEHALF OF THE CITY OF LONG BEACH
IN SUPPORT. BLIND 53. GOOD
MORNING CHAIR MEMBERS, MADELINE
COOPER FROM NIELSEN MARK'S
MURDER ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTIES
OF CONTRA COSTA AND MARIN IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. LINE 35.
GOOD MORNING CHAIRMAN MEMBERS.
THIS IS REBECCA GONZALEZ FOR THE
NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF SOCIAL
WORKERS, CALIFORNIA CHAPTER AND
STRONG SUPPORT OF SB ONE. OH,
SEVEN. THANK YOU. LINE 48. HELLO
UM AND CASSIDY WELLS AND CALLING
IN AS A CALIFORNIAN BORN AND
RAISED TO HIS RECEIVED GENDER
FROM IN CARE AND SUPPORTS THIS
BILL. GENDER AFFIRMING
TERRORISTS RECOMMENDED BY EVERY
MAJOR MEDICAL ASSOCIATION IN THE
COUNTRY AND HAS BEEN PROVEN TIME
AND TIME AGAIN TO BE THE BEST
TREATMENT FOR GENEROUS FOR YOU.
YOU MAY HEAR TODAY THE CLAIM
THAT THE MAJORITY OF
JOURNALISTS, FORK YOUTH GROW OUT
OF IT. MRS OFTEN, HONESTLY,
DISHONESTLY USED AS A
JUSTIFICATION TO OPPOSE THIS
CARE. OVER THE TRUTH ABOUT THIS
IS THAT IT COMES FROM STUDIES ON
GENDER NONCONFORMING NOT
STRICTLY GENEROUS FOR QUÊ. AND
REFERS TO THE ASSISTANCE BEFORE
PUBERTY IF IT'S FOR YOUR
PERSISTENT EARLY PUBERTY, IT IS
ALMOST CERTAINLY PERMANENT,
REGARDLESS OF WHETHER OR NOT THE
PERSON IS RECEIVING JAPANESE OR
AFFIRMING CARE. THE MEDICAL
ASPECT OF GENERAL FIRMING CARE
IS NOT AVAILABLE UNTIL AFTER
PUBERTY STARTS, SO ONLY THOSE
HIGHLY UNLIKELY TO REGRET IT
HAVE ACCESS UNTIL I GOT THIS
TERROR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME
YOUR ORGANIZATION AND SUPPORT OR
OPPOSE. MY NAME IS CASSIDY WELLS
AND CALLING IN AS A CALIFORNIAN
AND I CALIFORNIAN CITIZEN AND I
SUPPORT THIS BILL. THANK YOU.
NEXT WITNESS, MR CHAIRMAN, WE
HAVE WE HAVE NO ONE ELSE IN CUBA
AT THIS TIME. OKAY I'M
INFORMALLY HAVE ONE MORE WITNESS
TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL
IN THE ROOM. HI GOOD MORNING. MY
NAME IS DANA STAPLETON. UM AND
I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF LIEUTENANT
GOVERNOR LENNY LAKIS, STANDING
IN STRONG SUPPORT AND AS A
SPONSOR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
MR. OPERATOR ARE THERE ANY OTHER
WITNESSES IN QUEUE TO SPEAK IN
SUPPORT OF SB ONE? OH, SEVEN. WE
HAVE NO WITNESSES IN CUBA AT
THIS TIME. THANK YOU. TURNING
NOW TO MAIN WITNESSES AND
OPPOSITION. ANYONE IN THE ROOM.
WISH TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF
THE BILL, PLEASE APPROACH.
PROCEED WHEN READY? YES, MY NAME
IS GREG BERT FROM THE CALIFORNIA
FAMILY COUNCIL. I'M GONNA BE
GIVING MOST OF MY TIME TO MY
COLLEAGUE HERE, BUT I JUST
WANTED TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO
A BOOK CALLED IRREVERSIBLE
DAMAGE. IT'S BEEN A BOOK THAT'S
BEEN WIDELY DISTRIBUTED HERE IN
UNITED STATES, UM, WRITTEN BY
ABIGAIL SHRIER. SHE'S A WALL
STREET JOURNAL REPORTER, YALE
OXFORD EDUCATED ATTORNEY. AND
SHE BRINGS UP SOME VERY
CONCERNING THINGS ABOUT THE
GENDER AFFIRMING CARE THAT'S
BEING PROMOTED IN THIS BILL
DESTROYS THE REPRODUCTIVE
SYSTEMS, ESPECIALLY OF YOUNG
WOMEN. UM AND THAT IS ONE OF THE
REASONS WE ARE VERY CONCERNED
ABOUT THIS BILL. SO THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. NEXT WITNESS. HI MY
NAME IS AARON FRIDAY. I'M A
DEMOCRAT AND I VOTED FOR SAME
SEX MARRIAGE. I'M ONE OF THE
LEADS OF OUR DUTY AND PARENTS
HAVE RONG KIDS. THERE ARE
THOUSANDS OF PARENTS IN OUR
GROUP. WE ARE CHEERING ON THE
STATES THAT ARE STARTING
STOPPING GENDER MEDICINE ON
CHILDREN. PARENTS IN THE STATE
OF CALIFORNIA HAVE LOST CUSTODY
OF THEIR CHILDREN MERELY BY
CALLING THEIR CHILD BY THEIR
LEGAL NAME. SB ONE. OH, SEVEN.
MUST NOT PASS CUSTODY IS ONE OF
THE HARDEST FOUGHT ASPECTS OF A
DIVORCE IN CALIFORNIA CANNOT
JUST WIPE AWAY OUT OF STATE
AGREEMENT ADDRESSING WHICH
PARENT CONTROLS THE MEDICAL
HEALTH OF A CHILD. SCOTT WIENER
, A MAN WITHOUT CHILDREN IS
PUSHING GENDER AFFIRMATIVE
MEDICINE LAWS FOR MINORS, WHILE
OTHER COUNTRIES ARE MOVING AWAY
FROM THE AFFIRMATION MODEL. LOOK
TO SWEDEN. FINLAND NORWAY, THE
UK AND FRANCE. YOU NEED TO BE
100% CONFIDENT THAT'S
STERILIZING CHILDREN IS TRULY
LIFE SAVING. THE NUMBER OF KIDS
GOING TO GENDER CLINICS IS
SKYROCKETING. IN THE UK. IT IS A
5000% UPTICK FOR GIRLS AS SEEN
IN THE GRAPH. IT'S THE SAME
HERE. WE PARENTS? NO IT'S A
SOCIAL CONTAGION. AS WE WATCH
CLUSTERS OF FRIEND GROUPS COME
OUT AS TRANS IT'S NOT ORGANIC.
IF TRANS MEDICINE PREVENTS
SUICIDE. WHY THEN, AS TRANS
MEDICINE GETS MORE PREVALENT OR
MORE GIRLS COMMITTING SUICIDE.
WHY ARE THEY SUFFERING FROM
SEVERE DEPRESSION, ENGAGING IN
SELF HARM? THIS GENE TWINGE
GRAPH OF SUICIDE AND SELF HARM
MATCHES THE TRANS MEDICINE
TRAJECTORY. LARA EDWARDS LEEPER
, WHO BROUGHT PEDIATRIC GENDER
CARE TO THE UNITED STATES SAYS
AND I QUOTE THERE ARE NO STUDIES
THAT SAY THAT IT THAT IF WE
DON'T START THESE KIDS
IMMEDIATELY ON HORMONES WHEN
THEY SAY THAT THEY WANT THEM
THAT THEY ARE GOING TO COMMIT
SUICIDE. THE LONG TERM EFFECTS
OF PUBERTY, BLOCKERS AND CROSS
SEX HORMONES IS LARGELY UNKNOWN.
WHAT IS KNOWN IS THAT BONE
DENSITY AND BRAIN DEVELOPMENT IS
ADVERSELY AFFECTED. MAN.
RESPECTFULLY IF YOU COULD PLEASE
WRAP UP. YOUR TIME HAS BEEN
EXCEEDED. MARCI BOWERS, A TRANS
WOMAN AND CURRENT PRESIDENT OF W
PATH ON THE EFFECT OF PUBERTY,
BLOCKERS ON BIOLOGICAL MALE SAYS
, AND I QUOTE EVERY SINGLE CHILD
WHO IS BLOCKED AT STANDARD STAGE
STAGE TWO. HAS NEVER EXPERIENCED
ORGASM. I MEAN, IT'S ZERO. THESE
YOUNG MEN ARE ALSO RENDERED
IRREVERSIBLY STERILE. DON'T MAKE
CALIFORNIA A REFUGE FOR WHAT
WILL BE SEEN AS THE LARGEST
MEDICAL SCANDAL IN HISTORY.
EDUCATE YOURSELF. THANK YOU. ANY
OTHER WITNESSES IN THE ROOM TO
SPEAK IN OPPOSITION. PLEASE
APPROACH THE MICROPHONE AND
PLEASE JUST STATE YOUR NAME
ORGANIZATION IN POSITION. MY
NAME IS CHRISTIAN BROWN. I'M A
RESIDENT OF SACRAMENTO REGION.
I'M A DEMOCRAT, AND I OPPOSE
CERTAIN ABOUT ONE OF SEVEN.
THANK YOU ANY ADDITIONAL
WITNESSES IN THE ROOM WISHING TO
SPEAK IN OPPOSITION? SEEING
SEEING NONE. MR OPERATOR, WOULD
YOU PLEASE OPEN THE PHONE LINES?
FOR WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION TO
SB ONE. OH, SEVEN. AND I WOULD
ASK WITNESSES, PLEASE, JUST
STATE, YOUR NAME ORGANIZATION IN
POSITION. QUÊ. LADIES AND
GENTLEMEN, IF YOU'RE AN
OPPOSITION SP ONE OH, SEVEN,
PLEASE PRESS ONE AND ZERO AT
THIS TIME. WHAT'S GONNA
OPPOSITION SP ONE? OH, SEVEN,
PLEASE PRESS ONE AND ZERO AT
THIS TIME. ONE MOMENT, PLEASE.
BERNIE OR LINE NUMBER. 42,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. HELLO MY NAME
IS DEJA RANGEL AND I'M AN
OPPOSITION BE 107. NEXT GO TO
LINE NUMBER 13. PLEASE GO AHEAD
ONE MOMENT. LINE. 13 PLEASE GO
AHEAD. HELLO? MY NAME IS GIGI
LARUE. I AM A PARENT OF A TRANS
IDENTIFIED CHILD AND I OPPOSE SB
ONE OF SEVEN VEHEMENTLY. NEXT TO
GO TO LINE NUMBER 60, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. HI THIS IS FRED WILLS SO
YOU CAN ACTUALLY WE ARE ACTUALLY
IN SUPPORT OF THE MEASURE. WE
WEREN'T ABLE TO GET IN THE QUEUE
BEFORE IT CLOSED, BUT ACTUALLY
ACTING IN SUPPORT OF THE
MEASURE. THANK YOU APOLOGIZE.
ONCE AGAIN IN GENERAL, IF YOU
ARE AN OPPOSITION SP ONE OH,
SEVEN. PLEASE PRESS 10 AT THIS
TIME. ONE MONTH, PLEASE. WE'LL
WAIT FOR AN EXPERT.
BE JUST ONE MORE MOMENT. THE
LINE NUMBER 61, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
HELLO TO REMEMBER HIS EVER
SHEETED CARRIED BEHAVIOR HEALTH
DIRECTORS ASSOCIATION OF
CALIFORNIA AND WE'RE ACTUALLY
SUPPORT BUT WE'RE OUT OF ACUTE
EARLIER. SO AGAIN, TV HD AND
SUPPORT THANK YOU. AND AT THIS
TIME WE HAVE NO OTHER PARTIES IN
QUÊ. THANK YOU. PLEASE CLOSE THE
LINES FOR SP ONE. OH, SEVEN TIME
FOR QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM
COMMITTEE MEMBERS, MR CHOLERA.
UM I LIKE TO MOVE THE BILL. AND. AND I'D LIKE TO BE OUT OF HIS
CO AUTHOR POSSIBLE. THANK YOU.
AYE, STRETCHING FOR THAT
MICROPHONE. WE HAVE A MOTION. IS
THERE A SECOND SECONDED BY MR
BLOOM BELIEVE THAT MOTION IS DUE
PASS TO PUBLIC SAFETY. ANYBODY
ELSE WITH COMMENTS QUESTIONS,
SAYING NONE. SENATOR WIENER LIKE
TO CLOSE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
MR. CHAIRMAN, UM YOU KNOW? WHEN
WE THINK ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING
IN THE STATES, YOU KNOW, THERE'S
SO MANY. LGBTQ KIDS IN GENERAL,
PARTICULARLY TRANS KIDS WHO ARE
WHO FEEL VERY ALONE IN THE WORLD
, AND THEY ARE STIGMATIZED BY
THEIR FAMILIES THERE. IT'S NOT A
COINCIDENCE THAT APPROXIMATELY
HALF OF HOELESS YOUTH IDENTIFY
AS LGBT QUÊ. IT'S NOT A
COINCIDENCE. THAT'S BECAUSE OF
HOW SO MANY OF THESE KIDS ARE
JUST LITERALLY CAST OUT OF THEIR
FAMILIES OR TREATED IN SUCH A
WAY THAT THEY DON'T FEEL LOVE.
THEY DON'T FEEL SAFE AND SO THEY
LEAVE. AND SO WHEN YOU HAVE
FAMILIES THAT ACTUALLY EXCEPT
THESE KIDS AND EMBRACE THEM AND
LIFT THEM UP LIKE MY COLLEAGUE
AND OTHERS. THAT'S A BEAUTIFUL
THING. AND THAT IS WHAT LEADS
TO, YOU KNOW, HEALTHY, HAPPY
FULFILLED KIDS. IT'S SO
IMPORTANT TO HAVE THAT FAMILY
SUPPORT. WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE
IS YOU HAVE PARENTS WHO ARE
DOING THE RIGHT THING AND
PROVIDING SUPPORT FOR THEIR
KIDS. AND. THE STATES ARE SAYING
BECAUSE OF THAT. WE'RE GOING TO
PUT THESE KIDS IN FOSTER CARE
AND YOU'RE GOING TO PRISON. AND
IMAGINE AS A AS A CHILD. IF YOU
GET THAT MESSAGE THAT BECAUSE OF
WHO YOU ARE BECAUSE OF WHO YOUR
ARE. YOU'RE GOING TO FOSTER CARE
AND YOUR PARENTS ARE GOING TO
JAIL. AND IS IT ANY WONDER? THAT
THESE KIDS STRUGGLE. UM AGAIN.
THIS IS A BILL THAT I WISH I
NEVER EVER EVER HAD TO INTRODUCE
. I WISH THAT THIS KIND OF EVIL
BEHAVIOR WERE NOT SO PERVASIVE
AMONG SOME STATES IN THIS
COUNTRY, BUT IT'S HAPPENING AND
CALIFORNIA NEEDS TO STAND UP FOR
THESE KIDS AND FOR THESE
FAMILIES, AND I RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR MY VOTE. THANK YOU. THERE'S
BEEN A MOTION AND A SECOND.
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL CUNNINGHAM
VOTING. ZOOM. HI, MY DAVIES.
HANEY HANEY, I KALRA KALRA. I
KYLIE. KYLIE NO MAIENSCHEIN
REYES REVERSE COOLEY HIGH. THAT
BILL IS ON CALL. IT NEEDS TWO
MORE BOATS. THANK YOU. SENATOR
WIENER. YOU CAN STAY RIGHT
THERE. MOVING ON TO ITEM FIVE ON
THE FILE. SB 8 36. PLEASE BEGIN
WHEN READY. THANK YOU, MR
CHAIRMAN COLLEAGUES. THIS FILM
MAY LOOK FAMILIAR BECAUSE WE
VOTED ON AND PASSED IT SEVERAL
YEARS AGO. SP 8 36. AND IT'S THE
LAW EXPIRED AT THE END OF LAST
YEAR. SO THIS IS REAUTHORIZING
IT AND THE PURPOSE OF SPF 36 IS
VERY SIMPLE. IT'S TO MAKE SURE
THAT IMMIGRANTS FEEL SAFE.
COMING TO COURT TO TESTIFY,
WHICH, OF COURSE, MAKES THE
ENTIRE COMMUNITY SAFER. AND WHAT
THE BILL DOES, IS IT? UM PROVIDE
THAT AN ATTORNEY IS NOT ALLOWED
TO ASK. UM A WITNESS ON THE
STAND ABOUT THEIR IMMIGRATION
STATUS UNLESS THE ATTORNEY FIRST
GOES TO THE JUDGE TO MAKE A
PROFIT FOR A SHOWING THAT THAT
QUESTION THAT INFORMATION IS
RELEVANT TO THE CASE. WHAT WE
HAD IT SEEN IS THAT THERE WILL
BE TIMES WHEN ATTORNEY WOULD
JUST START RANDOMLY ASKING ABOUT
WITNESSES. IMMIGRATION STATUS.
EVEN THOUGH IT REALLY HAD
NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CASE, AND
WHAT THAT DOES IS, IT SENDS A
SIGNAL TO IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES
THAT IF YOU'RE A VICTIM OF A
CRIME IF YOU WITNESS A CRIME
DON'T GO TO COURT BECAUSE YOU
MIGHT GET DEPORTED IF YOU GO TO
COURT. AND THAT MAKES ALL OF US
LESS SAFE. AND SO THIS BILL
AGAIN. IT'S VERY I THINK COMMON
SENSE IT DOESN'T IF IMMIGRATION
STATUS STATUS IS RELEVANT TO THE
CASE, IT CAN, UH, THAT CAN BE
ASKED ABOUT. YOU SIMPLY HAVE TO
MAKE A PROPER TO THE JUDGE FIRST
, SO I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR
I VOTE AND WITH ME TODAY TESTIFY
AS DAN PHIL ASADO FROM THE L. A
DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
BEGIN WHEN READY, SIR MR
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS DAN PHIL ASATO
ON BEHALF OF THE LOS ANGELES
COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S
OFFICE, AS THE SENATOR SAID,
IMPERATIVE THAT THIS BILL BE
REENACTED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
TO ENSURE THE CONTINUED
PARTICIPATION OF ALL
CALIFORNIANS IN OUR CIVIL AND
CRIMINAL COURT PROCESSES. THE
LANGUAGE AND SB 8 36 IS WELL
DRAFTED. IT CONTAINS LANGUAGE
THAT ALLOWS AN ATTORNEY WHERE
APPROPRIATE. TO STILL
QUESTIONING INDIVIDUAL ABOUT
THEIR IMMIGRATION STATUS. IF
IT'S ELEMENT OF THE CRIME IF
IT'S AN ELEMENT OF AN
AFFIRMATIVE DEFENSE IT'S STILL
ALLOWABLE. NUMEROUS STUDIES HAVE
SHOWN THAT IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES
ARE LESS LIKELY TO REPORT
CRIMINAL ACTIVITY AND COOPERATE
WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT IF THEY
BELIEVE THAT COOPERATION IS
GOING TO LEAD TO DEPORTATION. I
CAN TELL YOU MYSELF. I'VE BEEN A
DISTRICT ATTORNEY. FOR OVER
ALMOST 20 YEARS NOW, I WAS A
POLICE OFFICER IN SAN FRANCISCO
BEFORE THAT HAVE WORKED WITH
LARGE NUMBERS OF IMMIGRANT
COMMUNITIES WHO ARE VICTIMIZED.
WHEN THEY DON'T PARTICIPATE AND
REPORT CRIMES AND TESTIFY IN
COURT. IT SENDS A SIGNAL TO
THEIR, UH TO THE CRIMINALS THAT
THIS COMMUNITY IS RIGHT FOR
VICTIMIZATION. IT LEADS TO
FURTHER VICTIMIZATION. IF WE DO
NOT. STOP THIS PRACTICE. ALL
THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IS LESS
CRIME REPORTED. THEY'RE GOING TO
BE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE GUILTY
WHO ARE NOT GOING TO BE HELD
ACCOUNTABLE. AND ULTIMATELY,
THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE CRIME
IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
PLEASE REENACT THIS BILL AS SOON
AS POSSIBLE. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. IS THERE ANOTHER MAIN
WITNESS ON THE PHONE LINE
WISHING TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT TO
MEDINA FROM THE COALITION FOR
HUMANE IMMIGRANT RIGHTS? THANK
YOU. OPERATOR PLEASE OPEN THE
LINE FOR RITA MEDINA. I'M HERE
IF YOU CAN HEAR ME. GO AHEAD.
THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING, CHAIR
AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. MY
NAME IS RITA MEDINA, DEPUTY
DIRECTOR OF STATE POLICY AND
ADVOCACY COALITION FOR HUMANE
IMMIGRANT RIGHTS SHE HAD LIKE A
IS A PROUD CO SPONSOR OF THE 8
36. AND WE THANK SENATOR WEINER
FOR HIS LEADERSHIP TO MAKE THESE
IMPORTANT PROTECTION PERMANENT
MENTIONED. IT'S THE 36 WAS A
VERY SIMPLE YET IMPACTFUL THING
FOR OUR COMMUNITIES AS AS
MENTIONED IT PROTECTS AN
INDIVIDUAL'S IMMIGRATION STATUS
FROM BEING DISCLOSED IN COURT,
ALLOWING ALL CALIFORNIANS
REGARDLESS OF STATUS. IF YOU'LL
SEE FOR ABOUT THE DECISION TO
PARTICIPATE IN OUR COURT SYSTEMS
AND IN OUR SYSTEM OF JUSTICE.
UNDOCUMENTED INDIVIDUALS ARE
OFTEN VICTIMS OF UNCHECKED WAGE
, DEATH OR LABOR LAW VIOLATIONS
, UNFAIR INCREASES IN RENT AND
EVICTION JUST AS A FEW EXAMPLES
, BUT THE DECISION TO STAND UP
AGAINST THESE UNJUST PRACTICES
AND UNSCRUPULOUS LANDLORDS OR
EMPLOYERS IN COURT IS OFTEN
IMPACTED BY THE FEAR OF BEING
OUTED AS UNDOCUMENTED. THE
PRACTICE OF USING A PERSON'S
IMMIGRATION STATUS AGAINST THEM
AS AN INTIMIDATION TACTIC IN A
COURT SETTING OR LEGAL PROCEDURE
IS NOT NEW. HOWEVER IT HELPS
INCREASE CONSEQUENCES DURING THE
TRUMP ADMINISTRATION AS REPORTS
OF ICE AGENTS WAITING TO
APPREHEND UNDOCUMENTED
INDIVIDUALS IN THE COURTROOM
FILLED THE AIRWAVES, AND THIS IS
LEFT A CHILLING EFFECT ON
COMMUNITY MEMBERS. WITHOUT THE
PROTECTIONS OUTLINED IN SPS 8 36
WERE LIMITING A PERSON'S ABILITY
TO SEEK JUSTICE. WE'RE
EFFECTIVELY SAYING THAT THERE IS
ONE SYSTEM OF JUSTICE AND
RECOURSE FOR CITIZENS AND ONE
FOR THE TOURING DOCUMENTED,
WHICH DOES NOT ALLOW VICTIMS TO
COME FORWARD AND FIGHT FOR FAIR
AND EQUAL TREATMENT UNDER OUR
LAWS. CHINA BELIEVES THAT THE 8
36 IS AN IMPORTANT AND NECESSARY
STEP TO MAKE COURTROOMS IN OUR
JUDICIAL SYSTEM, A PLACE WHERE
EVERYONE REGARDLESS OF THEIR
IMMIGRATION STATUS CAN
PARTICIPATE SAFELY. THIS IS
ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL FOR THE
ROBUST ENFORCEMENT OF
CALIFORNIA'S EMPLOYEES AND CIVIL
RIGHTS LAWS AND FOR ALL OF OUR
JUSTICE. I RESPECT RESPECTFULLY
REQUEST YOUR VOTE. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. AND HE WITNESSES IN
THE ROOM WISHING TO SPEAK IN
SUPPORT OF THE BILL. SEEING
NONE. MR. OPERATOR PLEASE OPEN
THE PHONE LINES FOR WITNESSES TO
SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL.
AND I ASK THAT YOU JUST STATE
YOUR NAME YOUR ORGANIZATION AND
YOUR POSITION. THANK YOU. IF
YOU'RE IN SUPPORT, PLEASE PRESS
ONE AND ZERO AT THIS TIME. WE'RE
GONNA GO TO LINE NUMBER 41,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD MORNING
CHAIR MEMBERS. KEN WANG ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
EMPLOYMENT LAWYERS ASSOCIATION
WITH PROUD CO SPONSORS OF THE
SPILL AND URGE YOUR SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. NEXT TO GO TO LINE
NUMBER 56. PLEASE GO AHEAD. YOU
KNOW, TALK TO MINSTER ON BEHALF
OF THE PROSECUTOR'S ALLIANCE OF
CALIFORNIA IN SUPPORT. NEXT
NUMBER 35, PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD
MORNING. WE'RE BACK AT GONZALES
FOR THE NATIONALIST SOC ATION OF
SOCIAL WORKERS CALIFORNIA
CHAPTER AND SUPPORT. NEXT TO THE
WINE NUMBER. 37, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. YES GOOD MORNING. THIS IS
TRACY ROSENBERG CALLING ON
BEHALF OF OAKLAND PRIVACY TO
EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR S B A 36.
NEXT TO GO TO LINE NUMBER 67.
PLEASE GO AHEAD. JIM LINDBERG ON
BEHALF OF THE FRIENDS COMMITTEE
ON LEGISLATION OF CALIFORNIA IN
SUPPORT. NOW GO TO LINE NUMBER
68, PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD
MORNING. THIS IS BRIANNA ZAVALA
CALLING ON BEHALF OF SAN DIEGO
COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S
ACCEPTANCE. WE ARE IN SUPPORT OF
SB 86. THANK YOU. ONCE AGAIN,
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU ARE
IN SUPPORT, PLEASE PRESS ONE DÂN
ZERO AT THIS TIME. CURRENTLY WE
HAVE NO PARTIES IN QUÊ. THANK
YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY WITNESSES?
IN OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL. SB
836. SEEING NONE IN THE ROOM. MR
OPERATOR, WOULD YOU PLEASE OPEN
THE PHONE LINES FOR WITNESSES
AND OPPOSITION TO SB 8 36. THANK
YOU. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF
YOU'RE IN OPPOSITION TO SB 8 36,
PLEASE PRESS ONE AND ZERO AT
THIS TIME ONCE AGAIN ITS
OPPOSITION SB 836, PLEASE PRESS
10. AND IT'S REMINDER IF YOU'RE
AN OPPOSITION SP 836 PLEASE
PRESS ONE AND ZERO AT THIS TIME.
CURRENTLY WE HAVE NO PARTIES IN
QUÊ. PLEASE CLOSE THE PHONE
LINES FOR SP 8 36 NOW IT'S TIME
FOR QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. MR KALRA.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.
THANK YOU, SENATOR FOR BRINGING
THIS FORWARD LIKE TO MOVE THE
BILL, AND I LIKED ABOUT IT AS A
CO AUTHOR OF POSSIBLE THE MOTION
IS DUE PASS. IT'S BEEN MOVED BY
MR KALRA SECONDED BY MISS
DAVIES. AND IF I COULD JUST
LITTLE CHAIR'S PREROGATIVE.
APPRECIATE THE BILL. I THINK
IT'S GOOD ONE. I THINK IT
STRIKES A GOOD BALANCE AND
ALLOWS FOR WHERE IT'S RELEVANT.
IN A PARTICULAR CASE FOR A JUDGE
TO RULE ON IT, BUT PRESUMPTIVELY
EXCLUDES IT WHERE IT'S JUST USED
TO BIAS, FOR EXAMPLE, AND I LOOK
AT THIS IN THE CONTEXT OF HUMAN
TRAFFICKING, WHERE IT'S
ESTIMATED BY SOME STUDIES THAT A
QUARTER OF THE VICTIMS OF HUMAN
TRAFFICKING ARE UNDOCUMENTED.
AND IT'S EXCEPTIONALLY HARD TO
GET THOSE FOLKS TO TESTIFY
BECAUSE OF THE POWER DYNAMIC AND
BECAUSE OF FEAR, AND I THINK
THIS WILL GO A LONG WAYS TO
HELPING OUR PARTNERS IN LAW
ENFORCEMENT AND PROSECUTORS,
PARTICULARLY IN THAT WORLD AND
UNIVERSE AND HUMAN TRAFFICKING
REALM TO DO THEIR JOBS
EFFECTIVELY. SO I'M PROUD TO
SUPPORT THE BILL. WE HAVE
MOTIONS SECOND, PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL. OH YOU GOT IT. YOU WANNA
CLOSE? GO AHEAD, CLOSED FOR ME.
CUNNINGHAM. I BLOOM. BLOOM. I
DAVIES DAVIES. I HANEY PENNY I
CHOLERA. CHOLERA I KYLIE
MAIENSCHEIN MAIENSCHEIN I RAISE
RIVERS. COOLEY HIGH. THAT THOSE
OUT THANK YOU, SENATOR. IT LOOKS
LIKE WE HAVE TWO MORE ITEMS FOR
PRESENTATION TODAY. ITEM SIX. SJ
R. 12 BY SENATOR SKINNER. AH
SERGEANT, IF YOU COULD MAKE A
FRIENDLY REQUEST TO SENATOR
SKINNER'S OFFICE, WE'RE READY
FOR HER TO PRESENT AND THEN WE
HAVE, UH, ITEM. 10 A. J R 34 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S MCCARTY. SURE.
OH, WHY DON'T WE CLEAR CONSENT
IS THEIR EMOTIONAL CONSENT?
MOVE, MINISTER CARLOS SECONDED
BY MR BLOOM, PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL. CUNNINGHAM. I BLOOM. MY
DAVIES. HANEY I CHOLERA. CHOLERA
I KYLIE. KYLIE I'M MAIENSCHEIN
MAIENSCHEIN I RAISE RIVAS.
COOLEY. SO THE CONSENT CALENDAR
WHICH IS ITEM SEVEN. SP 53 ITEM
EIGHT. SB 10 24 ITEM NINE. A CR
1 97. IS OUT. ONE SO WE'LL START
BY LIFTING THE CALL ON ITEM ONE
SB 10 55. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
KYLIE. KYLIE NO MAIENSCHEIN.
MAIENSCHEIN I RAISE RIVERS. THAT
HIS BACKGROUND CALL ONE VOTE
SHORT AT THIS TIME, IF WE COULD
LIFT THE CALL ON ITEM FOUR SP
ONE. OH, SEVEN. MAIENSCHEIN
MAIENSCHEIN I RAISE RIVAS. THOSE
BACK ON CALL ONE VOTE SHORT. MM.
AND. ANY ADD ONS ON ITEM TWO. SP
602, PLEASE CALL HIGHLY. KYLIE I
MAIENSCHEIN MAIENSCHEIN I RAISE
RIVAS.
WE'RE CAUGHT UP ON BUSINESS. AND
WAITING AUTHORS.
MHM. WE COULD CALL THE ROLL ON
CONSENT. BABIES. CONSENT. HI.
HI. RACE. RIVAS ZION HERE.
EVER SAT IN THEM. AH! POSSIBLY
YEARS AGO. IT CERTAINLY WOULDN'T
BE. NOT IN RECENT VINTAGE.
YOU KNOW WHEN I ENTERED I WAS
ALWAYS INTERESTED IN PERS G O
INSURANCE RULES. I'M A LAWYER.
DO SO MANY COMMITTEES.
I GOT A CALL. FRIDAY. THAT I WAS
AT RISK. FROM THAT TUESDAY
CAUCUS. I THINK. MADE FOR A VERY
CERTAIN. MY HUSBAND HAD IT.
FINGERS CROSSED. I HEARD CHINA
HAS A. SAY AGAIN. THE JOURNAL
SAYS THEY DEVELOP.
MY APOLOGIES. SALAS SENATOR
SKINNER HERE TO PRESENT ITEM
SIX. SJ R. 12, PLEASE BEGIN.
NOW UNDER OUR CONSTITUTION FOR A
AN AMENDMENT TO BECOME AN
AMENDMENT OF THE CONSTITUTION,
OR RATHER FOR US TO AMEND THE
CONSTITUTION REQUIRES 38 STATES
TO RATIFY. THAT WAS ACHIEVED IN
2020 WHEN VIRGINIA BECAME THE
38TH AND FINAL STATE TO RATIFY
THE EQUAL RIGHTS AMENDMENT. NOW.
THAT SHOULD BE ENOUGH. THAT'S
WHAT IT REQUIRES 38 STATES. YET
THE ARCHIVIST OF THE U. S. WHICH
IS A BUREAUCRATIC POSITION HAS
NOT CERTIFIED RATIFICATION AND
HAS NOT PUBLISHED THE E. R A AS
THE 28TH AMENDMENT. VIRGINIA
ILLINOIS AND NEVADA HAVE SUED
THE ARCHIVIST TO CARRY OUT HIS
STATUTORY DUTY TO PUBLISH AND
CERTIFY THE E R. A WE ALSO HAVE
OUR OWN CONGRESSWOMAN JACKIE
SPEIER. CARRYING A RESOLUTION.
TO REQUIRE THE ARCHIVIST TO
CERTIFY THAT AMENDMENT. THE
PURPOSE OF. S J. R 12 IS TO
SUPPORT THAT. AND TWO REQUIRE
THE CERTIFICATION. BECAUSE THE
AMENDMENT HAS MET WHAT IT WAS
REQUIRED. THE AIR IS NECESSARY.
BECAUSE IT IS THE SOUL. THING
THAT WOULD PROVIDE
CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTION. FOUR.
GENDER TO STOP GENDER
DISCRIMINATION. OR UNEQUAL
TREATMENT BASED ON GENDER. OR
GENDER INEQUITY. AND WITH THAT,
I ASK FOR YOUR VOTE ON SJ R 12.
BUT I ALSO WOULD HAVE MY WITNESS
HOLLY MARTINEZ, WHO IS THE
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE
COMMISSION ON THE STATUS OF
WOMEN AND GIRLS TO PROVIDE HER
TESTIMONY. THANK YOU, MR.
OPERATOR PLEASE OPEN THE PHONE
LINE FOR HOLLY MARTINEZ TO
TESTIFY AND SUPPORT. I DIDN'T
OPEN. HI GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
THIS IS HOLLY MARTINEZ. THANK
YOU FOR HAVING ME TODAY AND
THANK YOU TO SENATOR SKINNER FOR
RUNNING THIS RESOLUTION TO
SUPPORT THE EQUAL RIGHTS
AMENDMENT CERTIFICATION. UM AND
TO URGE CONGRESS TO CERTIFY THE
ER A, WHICH WE KNOW ADVANCES,
JUSTICE FOR WOMEN, GIRLS AND
GENDER EXPANSIVE INDIVIDUALS.
CURRENTLY THE ONLY RIGHT
GUARANTEED TO HIM AND IN THE
CONSTITUTION IS THE RIGHT TO
VOTE. WITHOUT THIS AMENDMENT,
THE SUPREME COURT HAS REFUSED TO
HEAR CASES OF GENDER
DISCRIMINATION, ACCORDING TO
JUSTICE SCALIA. THE CONSTITUTION
DOES NOT PROHIBIT GENDER
DISCRIMINATION. JUST SIMPLY
UNACCEPTABLE. WE SET
DISCRIMINATION SHOULD BE
EXPLICITLY BARRED BY THE U. S
CONSTITUTION. WHEN THE E R A IS
INCLUDED IN THE CONSTITUTION
COURT WILL APPLY TO SEX BASED
DISCRIMINATION AT THE SAME HIGH
STANDARDS USED TO EVALUATE
DISCRIMINATION ON THE BASIS OF
RACE. NATIONAL ORIGIN AND
RELIGION. THE YEAR WE WOULD
EMPOWER CONGRESS TO ENFORCE
GENDER EQUITY THROUGH
LEGISLATION THAT FORMALLY
ACKNOWLEDGES THE SYSTEMIC BIASES
THAT LIMIT WOMEN IN THOUSANDS OF
WAYS. AND IT WOULD CREATE
CONSISTENCY TO ADDRESS THE
PATRICK WAYS GENDER AND ECONOMIC
INEQUITIES OFTEN ADDRESSED IN
OUR CURRENT LAWS. IT IS A SINGLE
ACT THAT COULD MOVE MILLIONS
TOWARDS EQUALITY. IN AN INSTANCE
RATHER THAN SACRIFICING STILL
MORE GENERATIONS OF YOUNG GIRLS
TO THE ENDLESS FIGHT. WE KNOW
CALIFORNIA WOMEN ARE 50% OF THE
POPULATION AND WOMEN ARE
ESSENTIAL. WE DESERVE THE SAME
ESSENTIAL PROTECTIONS OF MEN BY
OUR GOVERNING DOCUMENT. WE
REQUEST YOUR SUPPORT OF THIS
RESOLUTION TO ENCOURAGE CONGRESS
TO PASS HEALTH RESOLUTION 891,
WHICH DECLARES THE 28TH
AMENDMENT OF THE U. S
CONSTITUTION. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU ANY ADDITIONAL WITNESSES IN
THE ROOM, WHICH WISHING TO SPEAK
IN SUPPORT? SEEING NONE. MR.
OPERATOR COULD YOU PLEASE OPEN
THE PHONE LINES FOR WITNESSES
AND SUPPORT AND I'D ASK THAT YOU
PLEASE STATE, YOUR NAME,
ORGANIZATION AND POSITION. AND
TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT. PRESS ONE,
THEN ZERO AT THIS TIME. MR
CHAIRMAN, WE HAVE NO ONE QUEUED
UP. THANK YOU ANY WITNESSES IN
THE ROOM TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION?
SEEING NONE. MR. OPERATOR WOULD
YOU PLEASE OPEN THE PHONE LINES
FOR WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION? TO
SPEAK IN OPPOSITION PRESS ONE,
THEN ZERO AT THIS TIME. ONCE
AGAIN, MR CHAIRMAN, NO LINES ARE
QUEUED UP. THANK YOU. PLEASE
CLOSE THE PHONE LINES. ANY
QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE MEMBERS
OR COMMENTS? SEEING NONE. WHOOPS
MR BLOOM. I'D LIKE TO THANK THE
AUTHOR FOR BRINGING THIS
RESOLUTION FORWARD. I THINK IT'S
REALLY IMPORTANT. UM NOT THAT
MANY OF US HERE ACTUALLY
REMEMBER THAT DAY 50 YEARS AGO.
BECAUSE IT'S SO LONG AGO AND
IT'S REALLY OUTRAGEOUS THAT THE
EQUAL RIGHTS AMENDMENT HASN'T
MOVED FORWARD BECAUSE OF
BUREAUCRACY. AND SO HAPPY TO
SUPPORT THIS, AND I HOPE IT
LEADS TO A POSITIVE OUTCOME. IS
THERE A MOTION AND A SECOND? MR
BLOOM MOVES THE BILL. MR
MAIENSCHEIN SECONDS. AND THEN IT
IS THE MOTION IS BE ADOPTED. BE
ADAPTED. SENATOR SKINNER. WOULD
YOU LIKE TO CLOSE? THERE'S TWO
ISSUES THAT I WANT TO ADDRESS IN
MY CLOTHES THAT I THINK MAY NOT
BE NEEDED TO ADDRESS IN THIS.
COMMITTEE BUT I THINK IT'S
IMPORTANT TO BRING UP IN CASE
WHEREVER ASKED ONE PEOPLE SAY
HEY, AH, THIS. THE REASON THE
AMENDMENT WAS NOT YET CERTIFIED
IS BECAUSE CONGRESS PUT A
DEADLINE ON IT. THERE IS NOTHING
IN THE U. S CONSTITUTION THAT
REQUIRES A DEADLINE ON THE TIME
FOR CERTIFICATION, AND IN FACT,
WE HAVE AT LEAST ONE AMENDMENT
THAT TOOK 200 YEARS FOR
CERTIFICATION. AND THAT WAS THE
27TH AMENDMENT. THE SECOND ISSUE
THAT PEOPLE MIGHT RAISE IS WELL
, THERE'S SOME STATES WHO MIGHT
WANT TO TAKE BACK THEIR
CERTIFICATION. THERE IS NOTHING
IN THE CONSTITUTION THAT ALLOWS
FOR THAT, AND THAT'S AN
IMPORTANT THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT
THAT THERE'S NOTHING IN THE
CONSTITUTION ALLOWS FOR IT
BECAUSE THERE IS GOOD HISTORICAL
EVIDENCE, FOR EXAMPLE. THAT THE
SLAVERY THE AMENDMENT THAT STOPS
SLAVERY WOULD HAVE BEEN THE
RATIFIED HAD STATES BEEN ALLOWED
TO REVERSE THEIR ACTION ON THAT.
SO I WANTED TO BRING UP THOSE
TWO KEY POINTS BECAUSE THEY'RE
RAISED AS REASONS THAT THE E R A
. SHOULD NOT YET BE OUR 28TH
AMENDMENT. NEITHER OF THOSE ARE
VALID REASONS. AND I ASKED FOR
YOUR I VOTE. THANK YOU. THERE'S
BEEN A MOTION A SECOND. PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL. CUNNINGHAM I
BLOOM HI, I DAVIES. PENNY
KAIKOURA, KYLIE. MAIENSCHEIN
MAIENSCHEIN I RAISE RIVAS.
COOLEY HIGH. S J. R. 12 IS ON
CALL NEEDS ONE MORE VOTE. NEXT.
WE HAVE MR MAIENSCHEIN
PRESENTING A J. R 34 BY MCCARTY.
YOU MAY BEGIN WHEN READY. YOU
VERY MUCH MR CHAIR. MEMBERS UH,
I'M PLEASED TO BE HERE ON BEHALF
OF ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S MCCARTY TO
PRESENT A J. R 34, WHICH WOULD
COMMEMORATE JUNE 20TH IS WORLD
REFUGEE DAY. WORLD REFUGEE DAY
IS A GLOBAL EVENT RECOGNIZED BY
THE UNITED NATIONS, WHICH HONORS
THE STRENGTH AND COURAGE OF
INDIVIDUALS THAT FLEE THEIR
HOMES DUE TO VIOLENCE,
PERSECUTION AND WAR. THERE ARE
OVER 84 MILLION PEOPLE DISPLACED
WORLDWIDE, WITH WELL OVER 26
MILLION REFUGEES AND MORE THAN
50 MILLION DISPLACED WITH IT
WITH THEIR OWN COUNTRIES. IN
FACT, NEARLY HALF OF THE
REFUGEES ARE CHILDREN, MANY OF
WHOM LACK ACCESS TO BASIC
NECESSITIES, INCLUDING EDUCATION
. IN RECENT YEARS, WE HAVE SEEN
MANY FORCED FROM THEIR HOMES,
INCLUDING COUNTRIES LIKE SYRIA,
VENEZUELA, AFGHANISTAN, OF
COURSE, CURRENTLY WE'RE SEEING
UKRAINE AND MANY MORE OFTEN
THESE HEROIC INDIVIDUALS
ENCOUNTER SEPARATION FROM THEIR
LOVED ONES AND EVEN DEATH. AH AS
THEY TRY TO EXPERIENCE A BETTER
LIFE FOR THEMSELVES AND THEIR
FAMILIES ARE STATE IS NO
STRANGER TO REFUGEES THAT ARE
FLEEING HUMANITARIAN CRISIS IS
WE'VE SEEN AN INFLUX OF REFUGEE
RESETTLEMENT IN LOS ANGELES, SAN
DIEGO AND HERE AND, UH,
SACRAMENTO. IN FACT, SACRAMENTO
HAS A LONG HISTORY OF WELCOMING
REFUGEES FROM THE FORMER SOVIET
UNION FROM VIETNAM, LAOS AND
CAMBODIA. MOST RECENTLY,
SACRAMENTO WAS ONE OF THE
LARGEST RESETTLEMENT CITIES FOR
AFGHAN REFUGEES AND SPECIAL
IMMIGRANT VISA HOLDERS IN THE
COUNTRY. A J. R 34 REFLECTS ON
THE COURAGE OF THOSE WHO HAVE
FLED THEIR HOMES AND THE
COMPASSION OF THOSE THAT TAKE
THEM IN. THIS RESOLUTION
REAFFIRMS OUR BIPARTISAN
COMMITMENT TO HELP THE MILLIONS
OF REFUGEES AND DISPLACED PEOPLE
THROUGHOUT THE WORLD. PLEASE
JOIN ME AND ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
MCCARTHY AND SUPPORTING A J. R
34 RECOGNIZING JUNE 20TH AS
WORLD REFUGEE DAY I RESPECTFULLY
REQUEST AND I VOTE. THANK YOU
ANY WITNESSES IN THE ROOM
WISHING TO TESTIFY AND SUPPORT
SEEING NONE. MR OPERATOR, COULD
YOU PLEASE OPEN THE LINES FOR
WITNESSES AND SUPPORT OF A J. R
34. TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT PRESS 10
AT THIS TIME. ME OVERLINE
QUEUING UP ONE MOMENT WHILE WE
PROVIDE THEM THEIR LINE NUMBER.
WE WILL OPEN LINE. 58 GO AHEAD,
PLEASE. GOOD MORNING. THIS IS
SARRIA. PH CALLING ON BEHALF
OF ACCOUNTS ON AMERICAN ISLAMIC
RELATIONS, CALIFORNIA CHAPTER IN
STRONG SUPPORT OF THIS
RESOLUTION. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU, MR CHAIRMAN. WE HAVE NO
FURTHER LINES IN QUÊ. THANK YOU
, AND HE WITNESSES IN THE ROOM
WISHING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION.
SEEING NONE. MR OPERATOR, COULD
YOU PLEASE OPEN THE PHONE LINES
FOR WITNESSES WISHING TO SPEAK
IN OPPOSITION? TO SPEAK IN
OPPOSITION. PLEASE PRESS ONE,
THEN ZERO AT THIS TIME. MR
CHAIRMAN. WE DO HAVE MINDS
QUEUING UP ONE MOMENT WHILE WE
PROVIDE THEIR LINE NUMBERS.
WELL, FIRST GO TO LINE 17 GO
AHEAD, PLEASE. OH, CAN YOU HEAR
ME? YES. GO AHEAD. HI. MY NAME
IS ICON DIVER. AND I AM CALLING
IN OPPOSITION OF THE RESOLUTION
AS IT IS WRITTEN RIGHT NOW,
EVERY LAST MINUTE ADDITIONS TO
THE RESOLUTION THAT ACTUALLY
QUITE TROUBLING TO ME.
SPECIFICALLY THE INCLUSION OF
90,000 REFUGEES FROM OUR TACK
LINE. WHILE IT'S BLATANTLY
IGNORED THE FACT THAT ONE
MILLION AZERBAIJANIS WERE
DISPLAYED FROM THEIR ANCESTRAL
HOMES BY THE ARMENIAN INVASION
THAT'S COMPLETELY OVERLOOKED IN
THE RESOLUTION. THE SECOND POINT
IS THE INCLUSION OF THE PUBLIC
ABOUT STAR BECAUSE THAT ENTITY
DOES NOT EXIST. IT'S NOT
RECOGNIZED BY ANY WORLD ENTITY,
THOUGH IT'S NOT RECOGNIZED BY
ANY COUNTRIES. FURTHERMORE, THAT
ENTITY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE
CIVILIAN BOMBING IN 2022. ALL OF
THIS COULD HAVE BEEN EASILY
LOOKED UP, BUT IT WAS OVERLOOKED
ONE. THE ADDITIONS WERE ADDED TO
THIS RESOLUTION. ADDITIONALLY
REPUBLIC OF STUFF IS ALSO THE
ONLY ENTITY THE FIRST ENTITY
THAT RECOGNIZED THE OCCUPATION.
BY THE RUSSIAN FORCES OF THE
UKRAINIAN TERRITORIES. SO THIS
IS THE ONLY ENTITY IN THE WORLD
AFTER RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT THAT
RECOGNIZED INDEPENDENCE OF THE
OCCUPIED UKRAINIAN TERRITORY.
IT'S BATTLING TO ME THAT THIS
ADDITIONS WERE MADE TO THE
RESOLUTION AT THE LAST MINUTE.
WHICH IS ALSO TROUBLING BECAUSE
IT SEEMS LIKE IT WAS DONE TO
REDUCE THE PUBLIC SCRUTINY OF
THIS. THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME
OUT. THANK YOU, MR. OPERATOR DO
WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL WITNESSES
AND OPPOSITION? ON THE PHONE.
YES, WE DO HAVE A COUPLE MORE
LINES. CUTE LINE, 32. HELLO MY
NAME IS BACKYARD NAME ON AND
RESIDENT OF CALIFORNIA. STRONGLY
OPPOSED. THE RESOLUTION IS 34
HAVE WRITTEN. IT IS EMBARRASSING
, BUT THE TAX HOLDERS BUILD
MENTIONS THE SO CALLED REPUBLIC
OF OURS. THE SO CALLED REPUBLIC
OF OURSELVES BY JOHN IS A
PROTOTYPICAL RUSSIAN SPONSORED
CRIMINAL SEPARATIST ORGANIZATION
CAME TO DONETSK, PEOPLE'S
REPUBLIC AND LUHANSK PEOPLE'S
REPUBLIC, WHICH WE AGREE THAT IN
UKRAINE AND ALSO SAID HERE AND
APPLIES IT, WHICH ACTUALLY
CREATED IN GEORGIA. THE BILL IS
DURING THE WRITTEN LEGITIMACY TO
RUSSIAN EXPANSIONISM INTO THE
TERRITORIES OF UKRAINE, GEORGIA
AND AZERBAIJAN UNDERMINES
INTERNATIONAL LAW, SO CALLED ART
STUFF IS NOT A REAL COUNTRY. ITS
ONLY PURPOSE IS TO DIVERT THE
ATTENTION FROM THE FACT THAT
AZERBAIJAN'S TERRITORY WAS
OCCUPIED BY ARMENIA IN THE
NINETIES WITH RUSSIA'S MILITARY
ASSISTANCE, OF COURSE. ALSO
LET'S NOT FORGET THAT ARMENIA IS
TO THIS STICK IN THE MILITARY
BLOC LED BY RUSSIA. RUSSIA GAVE
MORE THAN ONE BILLION OF ARMS
STORE MEETING MILITARY EQUIPMENT
OVER THE LAST 30 YEARS. SPEAKING
OF THE REFUGEES, IT WAS
DOCUMENTED THAT OTHERWISE UNION
GOVERNMENT OFFERED THE
POPULATION OF THE TERRITORIES
LIBERATED FROM THE ARMENIAN
CONTROL AND OPTION TO STAY
PEOPLE WHO LEFT VOLUNTARILY. SO
THEY ARE NOT REFUGEES. THEY ARE
THE SAME PEOPLE WHO COMMITTED
ETHNIC CLEANSING IN OTHER BY
JOHNNY POPULATED CITIES THAT
THEY OCCUPIED. I DON'T SEE THE
BILL MENTIONING THAT ONE MILLION
OTHER BY CHINESE BEGINNING
INTERNAL SWITCH PEOPLE BY THE
HANDS OF ARMENIANS SELECTION.
THIS BILL CANNOT PROCEED. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL
WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION, PLEASE
STATE, YOUR NAME ORGANIZATION
AND POSITION ONLY. 9 44. HI. MY
NAME IS HARRY HM. ASYLUM THE
SOCIAL WORKER AT BIOLOGIST
CENTER. IN SOME OF THE
CALIFORNIA AND I OPPOSE A JARRED
34. UM BECAUSE THERE ARE NO THE
AN INSTITUTE OR ANYBODY.
OFFICIAL BODY COLDER PUBLIC OR
ARE CHUCK AND JUST FOR YOUR
INFORMATION. IT'S A HORRIBLE
REGION OF AZERBAIJAN. AND ETHNIC
ARMENIANS ARE CITIZENS OF
AZERBAIJAN, AND THEY CANNOT
BECAUSE IT CANNOT BE CONSIDERED
AS REFUGES. SO COLD FROM ARTS
BECAUSE THEY ARE LEGALLY HAVE
RIGHT TO RESIDE IN REPUBLIC OF
YOUR BUDGET AND BE PART OF PART
OF THE OLD BENEFITS FOR OTHER
BIOGENIC CITIZENS. ANOTHER
PLEASE, PLEASE WRAP UP. AND OF
COURSE IN PROPOSING THIS BILL,
BECAUSE SO CALLED REPUBLIC OF
ARTSAKH, UM TRY TO ALLEGED TO
MIZE RUSSIAN LANGUAGE IN THIS
REGION AND BECOME PART OF RUSSIA
AND THEY RESIDENTS OR CITIZENS.
SO CALLED REPUBLIC PLEASE WRAP
UP YOUR TIMES, SUCCEEDED. THANK
YOU. SO I'M URGING YOU TO OPPOSE
THE BILL AS THE TAXPAYER
CALIFORNIA AND TAXPAYER. THANK
YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR ATTENTION.
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER WITNESSES.
MR CHAIRMAN IN OPPOSITION. THEY
HAVE NO FURTHER LINES IN QUÊ
SER. THANK YOU. PLEASE CLOSE THE
PHONE LINES. ANY QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS FROM COMMITTEE MEMBERS,
MR COOLEY? SCUSE ME, CHAIRMAN
AND HERE COUNCIL GENERAL OF
AZERBAIJAN IN LOS ANGELES, AND I
WAS INVITED TO TESTIFY. UM IF
YOU ALLOW ME JUST TWO MINUTES TO
SAVE MY WORDS. THANK YOU FOR
THIS OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS OUR
POSITION REGARDING THE EIGHT
YARDS 34 2 PARAGRAPHS IN THIS
RESOLUTION ARE THE REASONS FOR
OUR STRONG OPPOSITION. THEY PUT
THE CALIFORNIA LEGISLATURE IN
THE MIDDLE OF A COMPLICATED
FOREIGN POLICY ISSUE 7000 MILES
AWAY AND CONTRADICT AND HURT US
FOREIGN POLICY AND NATIONAL
INTEREST. AMENDMENT MADE TO THE
RESOLUTION JUST TWO DAYS AGO
INCLUDES REFERENCES GOT ME IN
REFUGEES FROM THE CARIBBEAN
ORIGINAL AZERBAIJAN. THE
AMENDMENT ALSO MENTIONS AN
ILLEGAL CRIMINAL AND MURDERS
REGIME CALLED QUOTE UNQUOTE
REPUBLICAN PARTY. HERE ARE SOME
SOLID FACT. IN THE EARLY 19
NINETIES, ARMENIAN INVADED,
ETHNICALLY CLEANSED AND OCCUPIED
20% OF AZERBAIJAN SOVEREIGN
TERRITORY. ARMENIA FORCIBLY
DISPLACED 800,000 AZERBAIJANI,
THE U. N SECURITY COUNCIL
CONDEMNED THIS INVASION AND
ETHNIC CLEANSING WITH FOUR
RESOLUTIONS. THE NUMBER OF
AZERBAIJANI REFUGEES IS NOW ONE
MILLION, WHILE THE RESOLUTION
MENTIONED 90,000 ARMENIAN
REFUGEES, IT DOES NOT MENTION
THE ONE MILLION AS A VIRGINIA
THESE REFUGEES ARE STILL UNABLE
TO RETURN TO THEIR LAST BECAUSE
ARMENIA. ONE MILLION AS ORIGINAL
REFUGEES CANNOT RETURN TO THEIR
LAND. ALSO BECAUSE ARMENIA HAS
PLANTED HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF
LAND MINES, THEY'RE ALL OF THESE
FACTS ARE IGNORED BY THE
RESOLUTION, INCLUDING THE PACK.
THAT ARMENIA'S LATEST AGGRESSION
AGAINST AZERBAIJAN IN 2020
FORCIBLY DISPLACED OVER 80,000
AS A BUTTON. THE INTERNATIONAL
COMMUNITY, INCLUDING THE UNITED
STATES, RECOGNIZED SARAH BACK AS
PART OF US ABOUT JOB NO COUNTRY
IN THE WORLD HAS RECOGNIZED ITS
ILLEGAL REGIME CREATED BY
ARMENIA, WHICH HAS BEEN INVOLVED
IN COUNTLESS CRIMES, ESPECIALLY
AGAINST INNOCENT CIVILIANS. THE
U. S STATE DEPARTMENT HAS JUST
ISSUED A REPORT CONDEMNING THEIR
HORRIBLE CRIMES DIMENSION OF
THIS ILLEGAL AND MURDEROUS
REGIME IN A GR 34 IS NOTHING BUT
AN ATTEMPT TO LEGITIMIZE IT, AND
IT'S HORRENDOUS CRIMES AGAINST
HUMANITY WHILE ILLEGAL REGIMES
IN UKRAINE, GEORGIA AND MOLDOVA
ARE CONDEMNED. WHY SHOULD THE
LEGISLATURE SUPPORT ANOTHER
ILLEGAL REGIME? WHERE IS THE
LOGIC WHERE THE RESPECT FOR
INTERNATIONAL LAW AND US FOREIGN
POLICY IN CLOSING A JAR 34 WOULD
SEND THE WRONG MESSAGE AND
DAMAGE THE EFFORTS BY THE UNITED
STATES? AIMED AT NORMALIZATION
OF AZERBAIJAN, ARMENIAN
RELATIONS AND ACHIEVEMENT OF
DURABLE PEACE. I URGE YOU
THEREFORE TO REMOVE THE SAID
PARAGRAPH FROM THE RESOLUTION.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. MR.
OPERATOR PLEASE CLOSE THE PHONE
LINES, MR COOLEY AND THEN MR
BLOOM. COLLEGE I JUST WANTED TO
EXPRESS THE WORD IN SUPPORT OF
THIS. THIS ADDRESS IS WORLD
REFUGEE DAY. IT IS VERY BROAD IN
ITS IMPLICATIONS. IT. THE REAL
MESSAGE OF THIS RESOLUTION IS
WHOEVER THEY ARE. REFUGEES
SHOULD BE TREATED WITH DIGNITY.
WHEREVER THEY COME FROM. THEY
THEN SHOULD BE WELCOMED. WHERE
THEY ARRIVE. AND WHENEVER THEY
ARE FORCED TO FLEE, THEY SHOULD
HAVE A RIGHT TO BE PROTECTED.
THIS ADDRESS IS VERY FUNDAMENTAL
THINGS RESOLUTION LIKE THIS IS
VERY APPROPRIATE. AND ACTUALLY
WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO THIS
HOUSE BECAUSE, ON MARCH 14TH I
CAME TO THE FORE WITH A LETTER I
HAD DRAFTED. URGING PRESIDENT
BIDEN TWO AS HE HAD DONE FOR THE
AFGHANI REFUGEES. PROVIDE MORE
LIBERAL ACCESS TO THIS COUNTRY
FOR UKRAINIAN REFUGEES THAT WAS
IN THE SECOND WEEK OF THE WAR.
THAT WAS A MONDAY MORNING I
ARRIVED ON THE FLOOR KNOWING I
HAD TWO COLLEAGUES WHO INTENDED
TO JOINTLY SIGNED THAT LETTER.
IN 90. MINUTES LATER, I HAD 66
CO AUTHORS. SO THIS IS A VERY
RIGHT POLICY FOR THE ASSEMBLY.
BUT THIS HOUSE STEPPED UP ON
MARCH 14TH. AND WITHIN A WEEK UH
, THOSE MORE LIBERAL POLICIES,
WHICH IS JUST MORE HUMANITARIAN
ENTRY TO SPEED ENTRY. TO SAFETY
PROTECTION, DIGNITY WERE IN
PLACE. OKAY? THANK YOU. UM, I
GENERALLY AGREE WITH OUR
COLLEAGUE AND WANT TO RECOGNIZE
THAT THIS RESOLUTION IDENTIFIES
REFUGEES RELATING TO MORE THAN
ONE ACTIVE OR AT LEAST
SIMMERING. CONFLICT. THE REALITY
IS THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT
GEOPOLITICAL FORCES AND FOREIGN
POLICY CONCERNS AT PLAY IN
VIRTUALLY EVERY CONFLICT THAT
HAS PRODUCED REFUGEES. BUT AS
WAS JUST SAID, THIS RESOLUTION
IS FUNDAMENTALLY ABOUT
RECOGNIZING THE PLIGHT OF
INCREASING NUMBERS OF ALL
REFUGEES AROUND THE WORLD AND
HERE AT HOME, AND IT URGES THE
UNITED STATES TO INCREASE ITS
ROLE IN PEACEFULLY AND
DIPLOMATICALLY RESOLVING THESE
REFUGEE CRISIS. I DON'T THINK
THAT RESOLUTION IS INTENDED, NOR
COULD IT BE AN EXHAUSTIVE OR
COMPLETE LIST OF ALL REFUGEE
GROUPS IN THE WORLD OR ALL
REFUGEE HOT ZONES IF YOU WILL
AROUND THE WORLD. BUT RATHER,
THE BILL PROVIDES A NON
EXCLUSIVE LIST AND IT IS NOT
SURPRISING GIVEN THE
GEOPOLITICAL NATURE OF THE
REFUGEE CRISIS THAT THERE MAY BE
DISAGREEMENT. OR EVEN CONFLICT
OVER EVEN THE QUESTION OF WHO IS
A REFUGEE. AGAIN THIS RESOLUTION
IS SUPPORTING WORLD REFUGEE DAY
AND FUNDAMENTALLY CALLS FOR
POLITICAL RESOLUTIONS OF REFUGEE
CRISES AROUND THE WORLD, AND
THAT'S SOMETHING I CAN SUPPORT.
I'LL BE SUPPORTING BUILT OF IT.
THANK YOU ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR
REMARKS FROM COMMITTEE MEMBERS
SAYING NONE DO WE HAVE A MOTION
AND A SECOND OF APPROVAL? AND
MOVED BY MR COOLEY. SECONDED BY
MR BLOOM. THAT MOTION IS TO BE
ADOPTED. MR MAIENSCHEIN. WOULD
YOU LIKE TO CLOSE? JUST A COUPLE
OF THINGS, MR CHAIR AND
COMMITTEE. I WANT TO SAY THAT
THE A SIMILAR MCCARTY'S OFFICE
HAS INDICATED THEY ARE IN
CONTACT WITH COUNSEL GENERAL'S
OFFICE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK ON
THAT AS WELL AS THE POINTS THAT
THE OPPOSITION RAISED. I DO
THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO FOCUS ON
WHAT THIS ACTUALLY IS. THIS IS
ABOUT REFUGEES. IRREGARDLESS OF
WHAT THE POLITICAL SITUATION.
MAYBE CLEARLY, THE CALIFORNIA
STATE LEGISLATURE DOES NOT SET
FOREIGN POLICY FOR THE UNITED
STATES OF AMERICA, OR THIS IS
WHAT THIS IS MEANT TO RECOGNIZE
IS THAT REFUGEES PEOPLE WHO ARE
FLEEING THEIR COUNTRIES DUE TO
CIRCUMSTANCES THAT EXIST IN
THEIR COUNTRY. AND AS A
SPECIFICALLY POINTED OUT,
PARTICULARLY CHILDREN. UM ARE
RECOGNIZED FOR THE PLIGHT THAT
THEY FACE RATHER THAN WHAT THE
POLITICAL ISSUES MAYBE IN THAT
COUNTRY. UM SO WITH THAT I WOULD
BEHALF OF A SIMILAR MCCARTHY. I
WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST AND I
VOTE. THANK YOU. PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL. CUNNINGHAM CUNNINGHAM. I
BLOOM BLOOM. I DAVIES DAVIES, I
HANEY LIKE CHOLERA. KYLIE.
MAIENSCHEIN MAIENSCHEIN I RAISE
RIVAS. RIVAS I COOLEY HIGH
MEASURES OUT. I BELIEVE WE CAN
TAKE IT FROM THE TOP FOR ADD
ONS. DCONCERN. OH MR AH,
PLEASE OPEN THE ROLE IN THE
CONSENT AGENDA. REYES RIVAS.
REVERSE. AYE. AND WE'LL BE
LIFTING THE CALL ON ITEM ONE SB
10 55. REYES RIVAS. RIVAS? AYE.
THAT BUILDS OUT. NEXT PROCEED.
ITEM TWO. SB 602. REYES RIVAS
DÍAS. MOVING TO ITEM FOUR WILL
LIFT THE CALL ON SP ONE. OH,
SEVEN. REYES RIVAS. RIVERSIDE.
THAT IS OUT. THE NEXT ITEM FIVE
SP 8 36. BRACE. RIVAS RIVAS.
AYE. NEXT ITEM. SIX SJ R. 12
SKINNER. WE WILL BE LIFTING THE
CALL. CHOLERA KYLIE REYES,
REBUS, RIVERSIDE. THAT IS OUT.
WE ALL STAY OPEN FOR MISS RACE
AND MR KALRA TO RETURN AND
FINISH VOTING.
OPEN THE ROLE IN ITEM SIX XJR
12. CHOLERA CHOLERA I READ. NOW
ITEM 10. HR 34 TO CORA. I RAISE.
SO IT'S OPEN THE ROLE AND THE
CONSENT CALENDAR RAISED. REYES?
AYE. NEXT WE HAVE ITEM ONE SP 10
55 RAISE OKAY. SORRY. NEXT WE
HAVE ITEM TO SP 602. BRAINS. RED
SIDE. NEXT WE HAVE ITEM FOUR SP
ONE. OH, SEVEN IS REALLY SORRY.
ITEM FIVE SP 8 36 DAYS. REYES?
AYE. ITEM. SIX SJ R 12 RAISED
GREAT SITE AND ITEMS. AND ITEM
10, WHICH WAS PULLED FROM
CONSENT A. J. R 34 RAISED REAR
SIDE. AND WE WILL GAVEL DOWN.