MORNING. UM IT'S 10. O'CLOCK
WEDNESDAY, JUNE EIGHT. WEARING
ROOM 447. FOR THE ASSEMBLY
PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MEETING
, UM, WILL BEGIN AS A
SUBCOMMITTEE. WE HAVE TWO
MEMBERS HERE. AH! ASSEMBLY
MEMBER CIERTO ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
QUIRK. AND WHERE. WE'RE WAITING
FOR OTHER MEMBERS SO WE CAN
BEGIN. UM, WE LIKE AS SOON AS
POSSIBLE. SO WE ALSO ARE LOOKING
FOR AUTHORS. ARE THERE ANY
SENATORS IN THE BUILDING? OR IN
THE OTHER BUILDING. WE'RE
LOOKING FOR SENATORS. COME OUT,
COME OU WHEREVER YOU ARE.
OTHERWISE MR SARTO WILL BE
PRESENTING FOR ALL THE SENATORS
. UM, SO GET OVER HERE QUICKLY.
UH, OUR COVID, UM ANNOUNCEMENT.
WE ENCOURAGE THE PUBLIC. TO
PROVIDE WRITTEN TESTIMONY BEFORE
THE HEARING BY VISITING THE
COMMITTEE WEBSITE. AT ASSEMBLY
AT W W DOT ASSEMBLY DOT CA.GOV
PLEASE NOTE THAT ANY WRITTEN
TESTIMONY SUBMITTED TO THE
COMMITTEE IS CONSIDERED A PUBLIC
COMMENT. IT'S CONSIDERED PUBLIC
COMMENT. AND MAYBE READ INTO THE
RECORD OR REPRINTED. ALL ARE
ENCOURAGED TO WATCH THE HEARING
FROM ITS LIVESTREAM ON THE
ASSEMBLY'S WEBSITE AT W W DOT
ASSEMBLY DOT CA.GOV SLASH
TODAY'S EVENTS. YOU HEAR HIM?
WHAT ROOM WILL BE OPEN FOR
ATTENDANCE OF THIS HEARING? ANY
MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC ATTENDING
THE HEARING, IS ENCOURAGED TO
WEAR A MASK AT ALL TIMES WHILE
IN THE BUILDING THE PUBLIC MAY
ALSO PARTICIPATE. IN THIS
HEARING BY TELEPHONE. WE
ENCOURAGE THE PUBLIC TO MONITOR
THE COMMITTEE'S WEBSITE. FOR
UPDATES. A FIT AND AGAIN, WE CAN
BEGIN AS A SUBCOMMITTEE. IF WE
HAD SOME AUTHORS. AND WE WILL WE
WILL WAIT. WE HAVE BASICALLY
ONLY HAVE SEVEN ITEMS. AND IF I
GET ONCE WE HAVE A QUORUM.
CONSENT ON ONE OF THEM. PROBLEM.
FOR OUR TOTAL BAIT. YESTERDAY
MUST HAVE BEEN KIND OF TOUGH.
YES WE HAVE AN AUTHOR. THE
SENATE PRO TEM ACTORS. COULD YOU
PLEASE COME TO THE MIC? WHERE
WE'RE LACKING OF MEMBERS RIGHT
NOW, BUT WE'LL BEGIN TO
SUBCOMMITTEE ONE OF YOUR ITEMS
IS ON CONSENT AS SOON AS THE
REST OF OUR OUR COMMITTEE
MEMBERS GET HERE AND SURE WE'LL
BE ABLE TO VOTE THAT CAN SEND
ITEMS THROUGH. SO WHENEVER
YOU'RE READY, YOU MAY BEGIN.
WELL, MR CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU.
AND I SO APPRECIATE ON TIME
COMMITTEES. I COMMEND YOU, BUT I
ALSO REALLY WANT TO THANK YOU
FOR THE COURTESY OF ALLOWING ME
TO GO FIRST AND TAKE CARE OF
THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION. SO MR
CHAIR AND ASSEMBLY COLLEAGUES
LAST FALL IN MY DISTRICT OF
STATE COURT HEADED DETERMINED
THAT A SEXUALLY VIOLENT PREDATOR
AND S V P INDIVIDUAL UNDER THE
CARE OF THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE
HOSPITALS SHOULD BE PLACED ON
CONDITIONAL RELEASE AND THAT'S
KNOWN AS CONRAD. AFTER THE
PERSON WHO FINISHED THEIR
CRIMINAL SENTENCE AND NOW HAVING
COMPLETED THEIR CIVIL COMMITMENT
BY RECEIVING MENTAL HEALTH
TREATMENT. SERVICES FROM THE
STATE COURT DETERMINED THAT THE
PERSON WAS NO LONGER A DANGER TO
OTHERS AND COULD SAFELY BE
RETURNED TO THE COMMUNITY UNDER
SUPERVISION. ONCE THE
DETERMINATION WAS MADE. IT WAS
THEN UP TO THE COURT TO WORK
WITH THE STATE TO FIND A
SUITABLE HOUSING PLACEMENT FOR
THE INDIVIDUAL. CONSISTENT WITH
OTHER RULES LIKE RADIUS
RESTRICTIONS AND ENSURING GPS
SURVEILLANCE AND MONITORING. BUT
WHEN IT WAS ANNOUNCED WHERE THE
S V P WOULD BE PLACED, THERE WAS
SIGNIFICANT PUBLIC OUTCRY.
PARENTS AND FAMILIES WERE
WORRIED AND FRANKLY, I WAS
CONCERNED AS WELL. THE COMMUNITY
SAID THAT THERE WERE FLAWS IN
THE PROCESS AND THAT THERE WAS
NO COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE
STATE AND LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES.
SO I TOOK A HARD LOOK AT HOW WE
COULD ENSURE THAT LOCAL JUSTICE
PARTNERS COULD BE HEARD IN THESE
CRITICAL HOUSING PLACEMENT
DECISIONS AND HOW TO KEEP OUR
COMMUNITIES SAFE WHILE ALSO
RESPECTING OUR CONSTITUTIONAL
RESPONSIBILITIES. THIS IS A
RESPONSIBILITY THAT REQUIRES US
TO REINTEGRATE BACK INTO SOCIETY
. INDIVIDUALS WHO'VE SERVED
THEIR TIME AND WHOSE MENTAL
DISORDER HAS BEEN TREATED SO
THAT IT'S SAFE FOR THEM TO BE
SUPERVISED IN OUR COMMUNITIES.
SINCE THE INCEPTION OF THE
PROGRAM IN 1996, THERE HAVE BEEN
51 S VPS PLACED INTO CONRAD.
NONE WHO HAVE RE OFFENDED. AS
PART OF THE PROGRAM. THOSE
INDIVIDUALS ARE CLOSELY
MONITORED DRUG TESTED GPS TRACK
AND RECEIVE ONGOING TREATMENT
AND SUPPORT. CONVERSELY AND I
THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT EIGHT S
V. P S HAVE BEEN RELEASED TO
WHAT IS CALLED TRANSIENT STATUS
WITHOUT ANY CONDITIONS OR
SURVEILLANCE OR MONITORING
BECAUSE IT WAS TOO DIFFICULT FOR
THEIR COMMUNITIES TO FIND
SUITABLE HOUSING FOR THEM.
THAT'S REALLY NOT OKAY, AND IT'S
WHERE THE SYSTEM REALLY NEEDS TO
BE IMPROVED. SP 10 34 IS
INTENDED TO CREATE A MORE
STRUCTURED PROCESS FOR ALL
RELEVANT COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS
TO COLLECTIVELY MAKE APPROPRIATE
LOCAL HOUSING PLACEMENT
DECISIONS. WHILE BALANCING OUR
CONSTITUTIONAL OBLIGATIONS. SO
THIS, IN TURN WOULD REDUCE THE
RISK OF TRANSIENT PLACEMENT, ALL
OF WHICH ULTIMATELY INCREASES
PUBLIC SAFETY. ADDITIONALLY IN
ORDER TO PREVENT ONE COUNTY FROM
PASSING THE BUCK AND JUST MOVING
THERE S VP INTO ANOTHER
JURISDICTION. SB 10 34 CREATES A
MORE DETAILED PROCESS FOR HOW A
COURT MAY AUTHORIZE A COUNTY TO
PLACE AN S. V P IN ANOTHER
JURISDICTION. I THINK THAT'S A
FAIRNESS ISSUE. AT THE END OF
THE DAY, A JURISDICTION THAT
PLACES A PERSON INTO THE SYSTEM
SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEM
WHEN THEY COME OUT. RESEARCH HAS
SHOWN THAT INDIVIDUALS RELEASED
BACK INTO THEIR HOME COMMUNITY
WHERE THEY HAVE TIES TO THE
COMUNITY ARE LESS LIKELY TO
REOFFEND. SO SB 10 34 IS
ATTEMPTING TO CREATE A
THOUGHTFUL APPROACH THAT CREATES
ADDITIONAL ACCOUNTABILITY AND
TRANSPARENCY IN ORDER TO KEEP
OUR COMMUNITIES SAFE. I WOULD
ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT ON SB 10
34. THANK YOU. WITNESSES AND
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. GOOD
MORNING, MR CHAIR AND MEMBERS. I
AM WEAR A TOP HERE ON BEHALF OF
SAN DIEGO MAYOR TODD GLORIA AND
THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO GENERALLY.
WHILE S VP PLACEMENTS DON'T
HAPPEN EVERY DAY EVERY DAY. WHEN
THEY DO THEY ARE CHALLENGING AND
HUGELY CONSEQUENTIAL TO
COMMUNITIES. WE SAW THIS LAST
YEAR AS THE SENATOR MENTIONED
WITH THE PLACEMENT OF AN
INDIVIDUAL IN THE RANCHO
BERNARDO COMMUNITY OF THE CITY
OF SAN DIEGO. WITH THAT
PLACEMENT, THE CITY RECEIVED NO
NOTICE OR INFORMATION OF THE
STATE'S DECISION OF THE
PLACEMENT AND CERTAINLY NO
INPUT. WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR THE
INTRODUCTION OF THIS MEASURE AND
YOUR CONSIDERATION OF IT SINCE
IT INCREASES TRANSPARENCY AND
ENSURES LOCAL AGENCY INPUT INTO
DECISIONS ABOUT S VP PLACEMENTS.
SPECIFICALLY THE PROCESS
MANDATED BY S. B 10 34 WOULD
REQUIRE RELEVANT LOCAL AGENCIES
FORM A COMMITTEE TO HELP
DETERMINE THE PLACEMENT OF AN S.
V P UPON CONDITIONAL RELEASE. WE
BELIEVE LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT
INVOLVEMENT IN S V P. PLACEMENT
DECISIONS IS CRITICAL TO ENSURE
TRANSPARENCY AND IMPROVE LOCAL
PUBLIC SAFETY. SO ON BEHALF OF
MAYOR GLORIA AND THE CITY OF SAN
DIEGO, WE RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
YOUR I VOTE. THANK YOU. ARE
THERE ANY OTHER WITNESSES AND
SUPPORT IN THE HEARING ROOM NOW?
CNN. 18 T OPERATOR WILL GO TO
THE PHONE LINES FOR WITNESSES
AND SUPPORT. OF S B 10, 34
ATKINS. HI THERE IF YOU WOULD
LIKE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF US,
WE 10 34. YOU MAY PRESS ONE,
THEN ZERO ON YOUR TOUCH TONE
PHONE. YOU MAY REMOVE YOURSELF
FROM QUÊ AT ANY TIME BY PRESSING
10 AGAIN. YES, SPEAKERPHONE THE
HANDSETS BEFORE PRESS SEASON
NUMBER. ONCE AGAIN IF YOU WOULD
LIKE TO SPEAK SUPPORT PRESS 10
AT THIS TIME. WE DO HAVE ONE
COMMENT ONLINE. 11, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. 0.11 YOUR LINE IS OPEN.
PARENTS SPEAKER, PLEASE PICK UP
YOUR HANDSET AND CHECK YOUR MUTE
FEATURE. CURRENTLY THERE IS NO
RESPONSE. MR CHAIR, NOBODY
ELSE'S QUEUED UP. OKAY. WELL,
THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY
WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION TO SB
10 34 YOU COME TO THE. AND HAVE
A SEAT. SPEAK FROM HERE OR
THERE, WHERE YOU FEEL MORE
COMFORTABLE. FIVE MINUTES. GOOD
MORNING. GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU
FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. MY
NAME IS BRIAN MORRIGAN. YEAH
THANK YOU. MY NAME IS BRIAN
MORRIGAN, SUPERVISING DEPUTY
DISTRICT ATTORNEY HERE IN
SACRAMENTO COUNTY. I'M HERE, UH,
IN OPPOSITION OF SB 10 34 ON
BEHALF OF MY OFFICE, AS WELL AS
THE CALIFORNIA DEPUTY DISTRICT
ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION. I
APPRECIATE. THE OPPORTUNITY. I
APPRECIATE WHAT THE BILL IS
SEEKING TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES
THAT MY OFFICE HAS, AND THE CDVA
HAS IS THAT IT WOULD REQUIRE THE
DISTRICT ATTORNEY SPECIFICALLY.
TO PROVIDE ASSISTANCE AND
CONSULTATION. TO THAT APARTMENT
IN THE LOCATING AND SECURING OF
HOUSING FOR SEXUALLY VIOLENT
PREDATORS THAT ARE TO BE
RELEASED. THIS RESPONSIBILITY.
RESPONSIBILITY HAS BEEN
TRADITIONALLY HELD BY THE
DEPARTMENT OF STATE HOSPITALS
AND SPECIFICALLY, IT'S CONRAD
LIBERTY HEALTHCARE. LIBERTY
HEALTH CARE PROVIDES. THE
CONTRACT SERVICES FOR ALL OF THE
STATES. SEXUALLY VIOLENT
PREDATORS WHO ARE CONDITIONALLY
RELEASED BACK INTO THE
COMMUNITY. AS A SUPERVISOR IN MY
OFFICE. I HAVE DEALT DIRECTLY
WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE
HOSPITALS AS WELL AS LIBERTY
HEALTH CARE WITH REGARD TO THE
RELEASE OF SEXUALLY VIOLENT
PREDATORS, BOTH DOMICILED WITHIN
SACRAMENTO COUNTY. AND NON
DOMICILED. A NON DOMICILE IS
WHEN A SPECIFIC COUNTY HAVING
FOUND EXTRAORDINARY
CIRCUMSTANCES SPECIFICALLY
RELATED TO HOUSING, WHERE THEY
CANNOT PLACE AN SDP WITHIN THEIR
COUNTY. WILL SEEK LEAVE OF THE
COURT TO PLACE THAT SEXUALLY
VIOLENT PREDATOR INTO ACCOUNTING
THAT MAY HAVE NO PRIOR
RELATIONSHIP WITH THE SEXUALLY
VIOLENT PREDATOR HIM OR HERSELF.
WITH ANY OF HIS OR HER FAMILY
MEMBERS, NOR ANY OF THE VICTIMS
OF THE CRIME FOR WHICH THE
INDIVIDUAL WAS. COMMITTED.
UNFORTUNATELY WHEN THIS OCCURS,
IT PUTS THE LOCAL DISTRICT
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AT ODDS WITH
THE CONRAD. IT PUTS HIM AT ODDS
WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE
HOSPITAL. OUR POSITIONS ARE
GENERALLY ADVERSE. TO THEIR OWN.
IT'S THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE
HOSPITALS GENERALLY WILL RELEASE
UPON THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S
OFFICE INFORMATION RELATING TO
WHERE THEY HAVE ALREADY SECURED
PROPERTY. THE SEXUALLY VIOLENT
PREDATOR LAW, AS WRITTEN
REQUIRES THAT THE COUNTY
DESIGNATED AGENCY NOT
SPECIFICALLY THE DISTRICT
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, BUT AN AGENCY
TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT HOUSING.
IT'S OUR POSITION THAT THE
DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS
NOT BEST SUITED TO ACT AS
REALTOR, PROPERTY MANAGER OR
OTHERWISE, AS IT RELATES TO
LOCATING THE HOUSING. AS IT'S
LISTED THE ASSISTANCE AND
CONSULTATION FOR SECURING AND
LOCATING HOUSING. THOSE ARE THE
WORDS THAT ARE DIFFICULT FOR THE
DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. WHEN
WE ARE NOTIFIED BY THE
DEPARTMENT OF STATE HOSPITAL AND
ITS CONTRACT THAT THEY HAVE
IDENTIFIED A LOCATION WHERE THEY
INTEND TO PLACE A SEXUALLY
VIOLENT PREDATOR. IT'S MY
OFFICERS PRACTICE AND HAVE IT.
TO CONTACT OUR LOCAL SAFETY THAT
THE AH TEAM THAT'S COMPRISED
WITH THE POLICE OFFICERS AND
SHERIFF'S WITHIN OUR
JURISDICTION THAT MONITOR ALL
INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE REQUIRED TO
REGISTER PURSUANT TO PENAL CODE
TO 90. AND WE WORK WITH THEM.
AND IDENTIFY SPECIFICALLY AS IT
RELATES TO THE ISSUES OF THE
LOCATION. THE PROBLEM WITH THE
BILL IS, IT PUTS THE BURDEN UPON
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE
TO ADVISE REGARDING THE
TREATMENT ISSUE AND TREATMENT
ISSUE. AS IT RELATES TO HOUSING
DISTRICT ATTORNEYS DO NOT HAVE
ACCESS TO THAT INFORMATION. WE
DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THE
HOSPITAL RECORDS THAT THE
SEXUALLY VIOLENT PREDATORS
RECEIVED. DURING HIS TREATMENT
OR HER TREATMENT. AND SO
THEREFORE WE ARE ILL EQUIPPED
AND ILL ADVISED. TO ADVISE
EITHER THE HOSPITAL THE COURTS
OR OTHERWISE AS IT RELATES TO A
SPECIFIC LOCATION RELATIVE TO
THE SEXUALLY VIOLENT PREDATORS
CONDITIONS. UNDERSTANDING THE
NEEDS OF WHAT THE SEXUALLY
VIOLENT PREDATOR NEEDS TO BE
SUCCESSFUL DURING THEIR
OUTPATIENT TREATMENT IS HELD
SOLELY BY THE DEPARTMENT OF
STATE HOSPITALS AS WELL AS ITS
CONRAD LIBERTY. LIBERTY IS THE
ONE WHO IS RESPONSIBLE. THEY'VE
WRITTEN THE TREATMENT PLAN. THEY
HAVE WRITTEN THE TREATMENT PLAN
BASED UPON INFORMATION THAT THE
SEXUALLY VIOLENT PREDATOR HAS
SHARED DURING HIS OR HER
TREATMENT. THIS COULD HAVE A
CHILLING EFFECT ON THE SUCCESS
OF THE TREATMENT WELL COMMITTED
TO THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE
HOSPITALS IF SEXUALLY VIOLENT
PREDATORS LEARNED THAT DISTRICT
ATTORNEYS ARE GOING TO BE
SEEKING INFORMATION. AS A
RELATED TO THEIR TREATMENT. IF
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY IS
REQUIRED. T. ASSIST IN THE
SECURING AND LOCATING THE
HOUSING THEN WE WOULD
NECESSARILY NEED TO KNOW WHAT
THE TREATMENT PLAN IS WHAT THE
TREATMENT DEFICITS ARE IN THE
SEXUALLY VIOLENT PREDATOR SO
THAT WE CAN PROPERLY ADDRESSED
US TO THE COURT. I CAN
ANTICIPATE SITUATIONS WHERE
INDIVIDUAL DISTRICT ATTORNEYS
WOULD BE SEEKING FROM THE COURT
SUBPOENAS OF THOSE RECORDS ONCE
THAT OCCURRED. IF A COURT LET
THOSE OUT THEN I COULD SEE THAT
DEFENSE ATTORNEYS WOULD FURTHER
ADVICE THEIR CLIENTS NOT TO
SHARE PERSONAL OR INTIMATE
INFORMATION REGARDING THEIR
TREATMENT WITH THEIR PROVIDERS
THAT STORY IN THEIR ABILITY TO
GAIN SUCCESSFUL CONDITIONAL
RELEASE. FOR THE FEAR THAT THE
INFORMATION COULD AND WOULD BE
USED AGAINST THEM IN THE FUTURE
PROCEEDINGS. I DO APPLAUD THE
PROVISIONS OF THE BILL THAT
SPEAKS TO INCLUDING THE NON
DOMICILE COUNTY AND ITS
PLACEMENT. I THINK THAT IS AN
EXCELLENT IDEA, BUT AS IT
RELATES TO HAVING DISTRICT
ATTORNEY'S DIRECTLY INVOLVED IN
THE SECURING AND LOCATING, AS
OPPOSED TO JUST THE
CONSULTATION. WE WOULD OPPOSE
THE BILL AGAIN. THANK YOU FOR
YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. WE'LL NOW
GO TO THE ROOM. ANY OTHERS
WITHIN THE HEARING ROOM? THEY'RE
IN OPPOSITION OF SB 10 34. GOOD
MORNING, SERGEANT JULIO DELEON
AT THE RIVERSIDE COUNTY
SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND ON
BEHALF OF SHARE, BIANCA WE
OPPOSE THANK YOU. WE'RE NOW GO
TO THE 18 T PHONE LINES FOR
WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION. IF YOU
WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN
OPPOSITION. YOU MAY PRESS 10 AT
THIS TIME. MR CHAIR AT THIS TIME
WE HAVE NOBODY QUEUING UP. OKAY
THANK YOU, AND I'LL BRING IT TO
THE COMMITTEE FOR ANY QUESTIONS,
MR CORK. SO I DON'T READ. THE
BILL AS SAYING THAT THE D A HAS
TO FIND THE HOUSE. PERHAPS YOU
PRESIDENT PRO TEM ATKINS.
PERHAPS YOU COULD SAY THAT I
JUST I JUST DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S
WHAT THE BILL SAYS. UH,
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S QUIRK. YOU'RE
CORRECT. IT REALLY SEEKS TO
BRING THE PARTIES TOGETHER. IT
HAS BEEN VERY DIFFICULT FOR A
JUDGE WHO HAS TO PRESIDE OVER
THESE PLACEMENTS. TO BRING THOSE
PARTIES TOGETHER, AND THOSE
PARTIES INCLUDE THE COUNSEL FOR
THE INDIVIDUAL, WHICH IS
TYPICALLY THE PUBLIC DEFENDER,
PRIVATE DEFENDER, SHERIFF OR
CHIEF OF POLICE COUNTY COUNCIL
DISTRICT ATTORNEY AND THE JUDGE.
IN PRACTICALITY, AND I AM NOT AN
ATTORNEY. I AND FOR THAT REASON
BECAUSE OF THE CONFLICT, UM,
THAT THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY MY
OWN IN SAN DIEGO BROUGHT TO MY
ATTENTION. I DID ASK ALLEGED
COUNCIL FOR AN OPINION ON
WHETHER THERE IS A CONFLICT AND
DOES IT PUT THE DISTRICT
ATTORNEY IN A CONFLICTING
POSITION BASED ON THEIR ROLE,
WHICH I THINK IS PRETTY
IMPORTANT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE
MY STAFF HAS COPIES OF THE
ALLEGED COUNCIL OPINION THAT
SAYS IT IS NOT CONFLICT. THE
OTHER THING I WOULD SAY IS, UM
IT IS NOT THE ROLE OF THE D A TO
FUND HOUSING. THAT IS THE OTHER
PARTNERS THAT DESIGNATION OF THE
LEAD. I THINK WHEN I HAVE TALKED
TO JUDGES GENERALLY WHO'VE HAD
THESE CASES AND WITH UH WITH
OTHER PARTIES. THE MOST
DIFFICULT PIECE IS GETTING
EVERYBODY TOGETHER TO ACTUALLY
LOOK AT THE OVERALL SITUATION.
IT'S IMPRACTICAL. WHAT HAPPENS
IS YOU CANNOT GET AGREEMENT ON A
PLACE FOR SOMEONE TO LIVE AND
ALL THE PARTIES ARE DISPERSED.
IT TAKES UP COURT TIME. UH TIME
IN WHICH, UH, YOU DON'T COME TO
RESOLUTION AND THEN ULTIMATELY
COULD INDICATE THAT THE PERSON
ENDS UP GOING TO A NON DOMICILE
COUNTY. WHICH THEN AGAIN STARTS
THE PROCESS OVER AND MAKES
ANOTHER COUNTY FIELD. WAIT,
WAIT. THIS IS NOT OUR
RESPONSIBILITY. SO I THINK THIS
IS SOMETHING THAT UM IS MORE
DOABLE. IT DOES NOT PUT THE
DISTRICT ATTORNEY AT CONFLICT AS
OUTLINED BY THE, UH, ALLEGED
COUNCIL AND I DO THINK WHAT WE
HAVE IS NOT WORKING. IT IS NOT
WORKING, AND IT RESULTS IN
PIECES OF LEGISLATION WHERE
PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO MAKE IT
HARDER AND HARDER FOR THESE
INDIVIDUALS TO BE HOUSED. UM AND
IT DISADVANTAGES CERTAIN
COMMUNITIES, SO I THINK THIS IS
AS GOOD AS SOLUTION AS WE COULD
COME UP WITH. I TOOK IT VERY
SERIOUSLY. AND THE LAST THING I
WOULD SAY LIBERTY. UM HEALTH
CARE. AH IN A CASE IN SAN DIEGO
, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU
HAVE HAD THESE CASES IN YOUR
COUNTIES THAT YOU'VE HAD TO DEAL
WITH. BUT IT ISN'T JUST SAN
DIEGO THAT HAS EXPERIENCED THIS
ISSUE AND THIS PROBLEM IN
HOUSING. BUT THE VERY PEOPLE WHO
ARE OPPOSING THIS UM, DID NOT AH
, ACTUALLY AGREE WITH LIBERTY
HOUSINGS ASSESSMENT OF WHERE TO
PLACE THESE INDIVIDUALS. TWICE
WE HAD AN INDIVIDUAL DENIED
AFTER THE STATE CLASS SPITTLE
AND LIBERTY. SOUGHT TO FIND
HOUSING AND AT THE LAST MINUTE
COMMUNITY BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T
INFORMED, INCLUDING THE D A
OPPOSED SO IF THEY'RE AT THE
TABLE, I THINK THERE'S A BETTER
WAY TO COME TO SOME CONCLUSION.
THAT BENEFITS THE ENTIRE
COMMUNITY AS WELL AS THE SAFETY
OF THE COMMUNITY AND THE
INDIVIDUAL. THANK YOU. SOON AS
WE HAVE A QUORUM, I'LL MOVE THE
BILL. SOON AS YEAH. OH, THERE HE
IS. SELF, IF YOU MIND WELL, JUST
GIVE US A SECOND. WE'LL CALL
FOOT WILL CALL THE ROLES. JOHN
SAWYER LACKEY. BANTA. BRIAN.
QUIRK HERE, SANTIAGO. SEYARTO.
WE NOW HAVE A QUORUM. WE HAVE
ONE ITEM ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR
OF CONSENT. IT'S FOR ATKINS.
THANK YOU. NUMBER TWO SB 11 37
BOARD OF STATE AND COMMUNITY
CORRECTIONS CALLED THE ROLE
SAWYER. JOAN SAWYER. I BLACKIE
BLACKIE. I BONTA BRIAN BRIAN, I
WORK. ALRIGHT, QUIRKE I SANTIAGO. SEE OUR TOE CR T. HEADSET
CALORIES ADOPTED. ARE THERE ANY
OTHER QUESTIONS ARE CONCERNED.
MOVE MOVE! SB 10 34 MY OUT
SECOND. MR BRYANT SECONDS. AND
YOU MAKE CLOTHES. RESPECTFULLY
ASK FOR YOUR VOTE. THANK YOU FOR
YOUR CONSIDERATION AND THANK
YOU. AND I THINK ONE OF THE
UNIQUE THINGS ABOUT THIS IS
YOU'RE ACTUALLY INCLUDING OR
WANTING TO INCLUDE THE D EIGHT.
A LOT OF THESE BILLS, UM FOR
BETTER OR WORSE, WE'VE EXCLUDED
THAT PART. OF OUR CRIMINAL
JUSTICE SYSTEM. THE FACT THAT
YOU WANT TO ENGAGE THEM AND
BRING THEM IN, I THINK IS
COMMENDABLE AND CHAIR, MR
CHAIRMAN, AND IF WE CAN FIND A
WAY TO FURTHER REFINE THIS
BETWEEN NOW AND I WILL, BUT
THANK YOU FOR THAT
ACKNOWLEDGEMENT. CHAIRS
RECOMMENDED I VOTE CALLED THE
ROLE NSB 10 34 BY SENATOR
ATKINS. THE MOTION IS DUE PASS
TO THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE
. JOAN SAWYER, JOHN SAWYER. I
LACKEY LACKEY. I BONTA BRIAN,
BRIAN, I QUIRK. QUIRK I SANTIAGO. SEYARTO TOÀN SEYARTO, AYE. THE
MEASURE PASSES. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. WE NOW HAVE, UM. THINK IT'S
TIME, MR MEN. YOU HAVE TWO
ITEMS. SB 915 AND HAS TO BE 13
84. YOU, MR CHAIR. EVERYONE YOU
WANT TO TAKE FIRST? THAT'S YOUR
PLEASURE, 915. IF THAT'S OKAY,
YES, IN NUMERICAL ORDER. UM
THANK YOU, MR CHAIR AND THANK
YOU TO YOUR STAFF WHO HAVE BEEN
WORKING CLOSELY WITH US ON THIS
BILL. I'D LIKE TO START BY JUST
SAYING THAT WE WILL BE ACCEPTING
THE COMMITTEE'S AMENDMENTS AND
ALSO THAT WOULD CLARIFY THAT THE
EXEMPTIONS IN THE BILL APPLIED
TO LAW ENFORCEMENT. SP 915
PROHIBITS THE SALE OF FIREARMS
AND AMMUNITION ON STATE PROPERTY
, EFFECTIVELY ENDING GUN SHOWS
ON ALL PUBLIC PROPERTIES IN THIS
STATE. IN RECENT WEEKS, WE'VE
SEEN MANY HORRIFYING EVENTS
ACROSS THE COUNTRY RELATED TO
GUN VIOLENCE FROM BUFFALO, NEW
YORK TO VALIDATE TEXAS AND HERE
IN CALIFORNIA IN MY DISTRICT AT
A CHURCH IN LAGUNA WOODS.
COMMUNITIES LIKE MINE ARE STILL
IN DISBELIEF ABOUT THE GUN
VIOLENCE THAT IS MANIFESTING
ITSELF. WE NEED TO DRAW A LINE
IN THE SAND AND SAY THAT THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA HAS NO
BUSINESS BEING IN THE SALE OF
GUNS, SP 915 AND ATTEMPT TO
PROVIDE THE SAFEGUARDS NECESSARY
TO ENSURE THAT OUR FAIRGROUNDS
ARE MADE REMAINS SAFE AND FAMILY
FRIENDLY VENUES AS THEY ARE
KNOWN TO BE WITH ME TODAY TO
TESTIFY IF KATHY LONG, FORMER
VENTURA COUNTY SUPERVISOR AND
MEMBER OF VENTURA COUNTY, BRADY
UNITED AND STEVE LINDLEY WITH
BRADY. 18 T OPERATOR, COULD YOU
OPEN UP FOR THIS SENATORS, THE
WITNESSES. STEVE LINDLEY. AND
KATHY LONG BLINDS ARE OPEN.
THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING.
HONORABLE COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
NAME IS STEVEN LEE AND I HAVE 28
YEARS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT
EXPERIENCE AND WAS CHIEF THE
CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT JUSTICE.
PURIFY ARMS FROM 2009 TO 2000 E
IN 18. I AM HERE ON BEHALF AND
REPRESENTATION OF THE ORANGE
COUNTY CHAPTER OF BRADY BARNES
COUNTY CHUCKER BRADY AS A
GRASSROOTS ORGANIZATION WORKING
TO REDUCE FIREARM, CRIME, INJURY
AND DEATH. THE CHAPTER COMPRISES
MANY MEMBERS WHO HAVE LOST A
LOVED ONE TO GUN VIOLENCE AND
FURTHERANCE OF OUR GOAL IS TO
REDUCE FIREARM VIOLENCE IN OUR
COMMUNITIES. IN 1999, CALIFORNIA
AND ACTED THE NATION'S BROADEST
LEGISLATION TO ENSURE
RESPONSIBLE BUSINESS PRACTICES
AGAIN SHOWS ASSEMBLY BILL 295.
IN CALIFORNIA. ALL FIREARM
TRANSFERS AT GUN SHOWS MUST BE
PROCESSED, LICENSED FIREARM
DEALER INSPIRING DEALER OPERATED
AGAINST CHILDREN COMPLY WITH
APPLICABLE LAWS, CALIFORNIA'S
WAITING PERIOD LAW AND OTHER
CALIFORNIA LAWS GOVERNING THE
TRANSFER OF FIREARMS BY DEALERS.
AND ALL LOCAL ORDINANCES,
REGULATIONS AND FEES. HOWEVER,
THE FEDERAL BUREAU OF ALCOHOL,
TOBACCO AND FIREARMS AND THE
CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
BUREAU FIREARMS INVESTIGATE
INVESTIGATION AGAIN. SHOWS HAVE
RESULTED IN ARREST FOR SERVICE
PRINCES, INCLUDING TRUMP
PURCHASES, SELL ACQUIRE ARMS TO
PEOPLE CONVICTED OF FELONIES AND
OTHER FIREARM PROVISIONS AND
POSSESSION OF FIREARMS BY
PROHIBITED PERSONS POSITION OF
ASSAULT WEAPONS AND MACHINE
GUNS. BUY FIREARMS PURCHASED AT
BRICK AND MORTAR FACILITIES.
FIREARMS PURCHASED AT GUN SHOWS
SHOW UP AT CALIFORNIA CRIME
SCENES AND ADD TO THE
VICTIMIZATION AND OPPORTUNITIES
SPECIFICALLY CALIFORNIA'S
COMMUNITIES. OF COLOR. IN 2020
IN THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT
JUSTICE ANNUAL REPORT TO THE
LEGISLATORS AND THERE ARE ABLE
TO PURCHASE SYSTEM REPORTS.
EFFORTS IN CALIFORNIA ATTORNEY
GENERAL STATED THE DEPARTMENT
HAS STOPPED THEIR LEGISLATIVE
MANDATED AND FUNDED ENFORCEMENT
OF CALIFORNIA GUN SHOWS. BUT
THAT SAID THE ORANGE COUNTY
CHAPTER, BRADY BELIEVES IT IS
INCONSISTENT. UM. FOR CALIFORNIA
TO PROFIT FROM THE SALES OF
FIREARMS AND AMMUNITION AND GUN
SHOWS THAT TAKE PLACE ON STATE
PROPERTY. ALSO BEST TEAM IN
SEEKING SOLUTIONS TO REDUCE
FIREARM, ELATED TO VIOLENCE.
2020 REPORT FROM THE NATIONAL
INSTITUTE FOR CRIMINAL JUSTICE
REFORM QUANTIFY THE COST OF KIND
OF FINANCE IN THE CITY OF
STOCKTON, CALIFORNIA ESTIMATED
THAT EACH FARM RELATED HOMICIDE
COST TAXPAYERS $2.5 MILLION.
NATIONAL INSTITUTE FOR CRIMINAL
JUSTICE REFORM FURTHER ESTIMATED
THAT NON FATAL INJURY SHOOTINGS
COST HER EXPERIENCE
APPROXIMATELY $962,000 EACH,
ACCORDING FOR THE CENTER. FOR
AMERICAN PROGRESS AND THE 10
YEAR PERIOD BETWEEN 2000 AND
EIGHT AND 2017. THERE WERE
30,703 FARM RELATED HOMICIDES IN
CALIFORNIA. USING THE REPORTED
COST FOR FIRE RELATED HOMICIDES
IN THE CITY OF STOCKTON'S PIECE
BY ARMS. UM. RELATED HOMICIDES
COST CALIFORNIA TAXPAYERS
APPROXIMATELY $76 BILLION OR 7.6
BILLION PER YEAR. LET ME SAY
THAT AGAIN. THAT WAS $7.6
BILLION PER YEAR AT THE THREE
MINUTE MARK. WHERE THE THREE
MINUTE MARK, WE WANT TO GET FROM
THIS LONG. WE HAVE FIVE MINUTES
ALTOGETHER. THANK YOU FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY AND I
ASKED HER, I BROKE IT. THANK
YOU. NOW WE'LL HEAR FROM KATHY
LONG. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR
COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND SENATOR
MEN FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AS A
FORMER VENTURA COUNTY SUPERVISOR
FOR 24 20 YEARS 35 YEAR RESIDENT
OF OUR COUNTY, A MOTHER AND AN
ADVOCATE IN STRONG SUPPORT OF SP
9 15. WE'VE BEEN WORKING FOR
YEARS TO END. THE CONTRACTING OF
GUN SHOWS THAT OUR COUNTY
FAIRGROUNDS STATE OWNED PROPERTY
. WE SUPPORT THIS LEGISLATION.
IT SHOULD BE IMPLEMENTED FOR OUR
COUNTY AND STATEWIDE REFLECT
WHAT OUR COMMUNITIES WANT FOR
THE SAFETY OF OUR CHILDREN AND
OUR FAMILIES. WE'VE BEEN
ACTIVELY ADVOCATING TO END
CONTRACTING AT THE WHAT'S
GUNSHOWS. PARTICIPATING IN BOARD
MEETINGS. UM HUNDREDS OF
PETITIONS ONLINE AND IN PERSON
TO SPEAK ABOUT CHANGING THIS
PERVASIVE GUN CULTURE THAT
IMPACTS OUR LIVES DAILY.
THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS WON'T KEEP
OUR KIDS SAFE AND WE'LL KEEP OUR
COMMUNITIES SAFE. WE'VE
EXPERIENCED WORKPLACE SHOOTINGS
IN OUR COUNTY, THE TRAGEDY OF
THE MASS SHOOTING AT THE
BORDERLINE BAR AND GRILL AND THE
CULTURE OF OUR GUNS AND OUR
COMMUNITIES HAS HAS TO CHANGE TO
CHANGE THIS. IT MUST BE TREATED
AS A PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS. TO
CHANGE THE PARADIGM OF HOW WE AS
HUMAN BEINGS WILL ADVANCE SAFER
COMMUNITIES. UM WE HAVE OVER 27
RETAIL GUNSHOTS AND VENTURA
COUNTY PROVIDING REGISTERED SAFE
ACCESS TO OWNERSHIP, BUT WE KNOW
THAT ANY GIVEN GUN SHOW 25 TO
50% OF SELLERS ARE NOT LICENSED
DEALERS. THEY'RE NOT GUNSHOWS
ARE NOT A PROTECTED CLASS AND
SHOULDN'T BE GRANTED THAT
STATUS. DONE SHOWN THAT THE
FAIRGROUNDS ENHANCE THE GUN
CULTURE IN OUR SOCIETY. WE SEE
ADVERTISEMENTS FOR THE SHOW'S
OVER THE COMMUNITY ON TELEPHONE
POLES. SOCIAL MEDIA, LOCAL
PAPERS. AND THIS REFLECTS TO OUR
YOUNG PEOPLE THAT WE SUPPORT AN
OPEN GUN AND AMMUNITION SALES
PROMOTION ON OUR FAIRGROUNDS,
WHICH IS A COMMUNITY CENTER FOR
ENJOYMENT. AND, UM TREASURING,
WHAT IS THE HISTORY OF OUR
COUNTRY? SO I ASK THAT YOU WOULD
CERTAINLY SUPPORT THIS
LEGISLATION PROPOSED BY THE
SENATOR, UM, YOU CAN'T BRING OR
SELL GUNS AND CITY HALLS OR
COUNTY BUILDINGS. YOU SHOULDN'T
BE ABLE TO DO SO ON STATE OWNED
PROPERTY. POLICE PART THIS
MEASURE AND WE'LL CELEBRATE WITH
YOU TO MAKE A STRONG STATEMENT
THAT OUR PUBLIC OWNED PROPERTY
REPRESENTS THE MAJORITY OF OUR
RESIDENTS WHO STRIVE FOR SAFE
COMMUNITIES. AND A CULTURE THAT
PROMOTES HEALTHY COMMUNITIES.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ARE THERE
ANY WITNESSES IN SUPPORT OF SB
915 IN THE HEARING ROOM? I THINK
WE'VE DONE THAT. AND NOW WE'LL
GO TO THE PHONE LINES. 18 T
OPERATOR OPENING UP FOR SP 915
PEOPLE THERE AND SUPPORT NAME
AND ORGANIZATION. ONLY. IF
YOU'RE IN SUPPORT OF THIS BILL,
YOU CAN PRESS ONE AND ZERO AT
THIS TIME. OUR FIRST LINE IS
LINE. 30, PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD
MORNING, MR CHAIR AND MEMBERS.
THIS IS ELIZABETH ESPINOSA ON
BEHALF OF THE VENTURA COUNTY
BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IN SUPPORT
OF SENATOR MEN'S BILL. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. FRONT NEXT LINE
IS LINE 34, PLEASE GO AHEAD. MHM
GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. THIS
IS JIM LINDBERG BEHALF OF THE
FRIENDS COMMITTEE. LEGISLATION
OF CALIFORNIA AND SUPPORT. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT LINE IS
LINED 12 AHEAD. HI THIS IS PIPER
FROM WOMEN FOR AMERICAN VALUES
AND ETHICS IN SUPPORT OF SB 9
15. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT
IS LINE 13, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
GOOD MORNING, PETER STEIN FROM
WOMEN FOR AMERICAN VALUES AND
ETHICS AND STRONG SUPPORT OF THE
BILL. THANK YOU. NEXT IS LINE
33, PLEASE GO AHEAD. HELLO YES,
MY NAME IS JULIA LOW AND I AM
WITH WOMEN FOR AMERICAN VALUES
AND ETHICS AND WE STRONGLY
SUPPORT SB 9 15. THANK YOU. NEXT
IS LINE 23, PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI.
I'M MARCO MAYOR. HONOR OF DARK
SKY EXPLORING .COM AND I'M
CALLING SUPPORT OF SB 9 15. NEXT
IS LINE 32, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. MY
NAME IS SLAIN. LIGHTBOURNE I'M A
RESIDENT OF CORONA DEL MAR AND A
MEMBER OF WAVES AND HIGHLY
SUPPORT TO STILL THANK YOU. VIæT. MR SHARON. THIS TIME WE HAVE
NO OTHER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
NOW HEAR FROM WITNESSES AND
OPPOSITION OF THAT'S B 915 MEN.
YOU CAN SPEAK FROM HERE. TO A
VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE TIME
RESTRAINTS. YES, SIR. THAT
WASN'T ME. GOOD MORNING, MR
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS WITH ALL THE
RESPECT ROY GRIFFITH, SPEAKING
ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
RIFLE AND PISTOL ASSOCIATION, UM
, HERE WE WANT TO HEAR YOU. HERE
WE ARE AGAIN. THIS BILL IS
UNLAWFUL AND UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
YOU CANNOT REGULATE WHAT LAWFUL
ACTS CAN OCCUR IN STATE PROPERTY
IN CALIFORNIA. THIS HAS BEEN
DECIDED THROUGHOUT THE NATION.
WE HAVE A LAWFUL ACT PROTECTED
BY THE CONSTITUTION. THIS
CRIMINALS ARE NOT GOING TO THESE
GUN SHOWS AND OBTAINING
FIREARMS. THESE ARE LAW ABIDING
CITIZENS. IT'S NOT ONLY GUN
CELLS THAT GO ON THERE, BUT IT'S
ALSO MUCH MONEY AND REVENUE IS
GENERATED, THEREBY NONPROFITS
THROUGHOUT THE STATE WHO ARE
MAKING MONEY. UH NATIONAL TURKEY
FEDERATION ROCKY MOUNTAIN ELK,
MANY OTHERS HAVE THESE SHOWS.
HAVE EVENTS ON STATE PROPERTY TO
FUNDRAISE FOR THE EVENTS. UH THE
GOOD CHIEF, WITH ALL DUE
RESPECT, HE'S EITHER BEING
UNLOCK HIS EITHER MISLEADING YOU
GREATLY WITH HIS TESTIMONY. WE
SEE OUR PA OVER SINCE 2015 TO
TODAY HAVE OVER 25 PUBLIC
INFORMATION REQUEST AND
REQUESTING ANY OF THIS NEFARIOUS
ACTS THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT. WE
HAVE TODAY RECEIVED ZERO AND
WITHOUT GOING INTO ALL THE DATES
AND REQUESTS. EVERY ONE OF THESE
REQUESTS WAS FOR ANY UNLAWFUL
ACT OR SALES OF ILLEGAL FIREARMS
AT GUN SHOWS IN CALIFORNIA. SO
FROM 2015 TODAY WE HAVE
CONTACTED DELMAR FILL BOARD
VENTURA FILL BOARD DOJ MULTIPLE
TIMES. GILMORE FAILED BOARD
WARFARE BOARD AGAIN. THE COW
PALACE DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE
ATTORNEY GENERAL B ERA. JEREME
ARTHUR BOARD AGAIN, DELMAR FOR
BUILD AGAIN. GOVERNOR BROWN
NEWSOME, VENTURA COUNTY THOROUGH
BOARD SENATE. MATTEO SHERIFF,
SAN DIEGO COUNTY SHERIFF OXNARD
CITY COUNCIL COW PALACE. SAN
DIEGO SHERIFF CAL PALACE ORANGE
CONDITIONAL CLAUSE ON AND ON AND
ON. AND SO WHEN HE TESTIFIES
THAT THE BLACKS ARE OCCURRING
EITHER THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
IS WITHHOLDING CRITICAL
INFORMATION FROM US OR YOU'RE
BEING MISLED IN THAT TESTIMONY.
HE TESTIFIED HIMSELF THAT THESE
ARE HIGHLY REGULATED SHOWS AND
THEN THE NEXT, UM WITNESS WENT
ON TO SAY THAT THESE FOLKS DON'T
EVEN HAVE F F L S. THAT IS NOT
THE CASE. THESE FOLKS THAT THESE
GUN SHOWS ARE SUBJECT OVER 26
DIFFERENT PENAL CODE VIOLATIONS
THAT THEY HAVE TO UPHOLD. AND
REPRESENT SO ALL WE'RE ASKING IS
THAT YOU FOLKS AT LEAST HAVE
INFORMATION THAT'S CORRECT AS
YOU MAKE THESE DECISIONS BECAUSE
YOU'RE BEING MISLED, AND WE'RE
HERE FOR THE THIRD YEAR IN A ROW
ON THE SAME PIECE OF LEGISLATION
AND KEEPS GETTING CARVED OUT TO
ONE COUNTY AT A TIME, BUT THE
BOTTOM LINE IS THIS IS GOING TO
COST THE STATE A LOT OF MONEY IN
LAWSUITS BECAUSE YOU CANNOT
REGULATE THESE LAWFULACTS
OCCURRING ON STATE PROPERTY, SO
OBVIOUSLY WE'RE IN STRONG
OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL AND TURN
IT OVER MY PARTNER, MR. CHAIRMAN
OF MEMBERS SAMPER ORTEZ,
REPRESENTING GUN OWNERS OF
CALIFORNIA AND YOU KNOW IT
HAPPENS HERE IN THE LEGISLATURE
ALL THE TIME. YOU YOU WANT TO
CONFUSE SOMEBODY, YOU BAFFLE
THEM WITH STATISTICS AND
INFORMATION WITHOUT VERIFICATION
WITHOUT WITHOUT PROOF THAT
THEY'RE ACCURATE AND IN FACT
WHAT WE DO KNOW HISTORICALLY IS
THAT THE GUN SHOWS IN THE STATE
OF CALIFORNIA ARE THE MOST
SECURE AND SAFEST GUNSHOWS.
ACROSS THE COUNTRY. THERE HASN'T
BEEN A SINGLE INCIDENT OF A
CRIME THAT'S BEEN COMMITTED AT A
GUN SHOW THAT'S BEEN REPORTED
EITHER BY DOJ OR ANY LOCAL LAW
ENFORCEMENT AGENCY. AND WHEN
THEY SAY GUNS FROM GUN SHOWS ARE
MAGICALLY APPEARING AT AT CRIME
SCENES. HAVE THEY FOLLOW THE
CHAIN OF CUSTODY. HAVE THEY
FOLLOWED? WHAT WHAT? HOW THAT
HAPPENED IF IT EVEN DID HAPPEN.
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A LAWFUL
ACT. AND ONE THING THAT IS BEING
IGNORED. YES TRAGIC. ANY LIFE
LOST BY A CRIMINAL ACT IS A PORN
TO US. BUT THE FACT OF THE
MATTER IS HERE IN CALIFORNIA.
HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF TIMES
PER YEAR LAW AIDING CITIZENS
USE GUNS. TO PREVENT FROM BEING
A VICTIM. THEY SURVIVE, AND THEY
IN THE VAST MAJORITY OF CASES
THEY DON'T HAVE TO FIRE THE GUN.
SO IT DOESN'T BECOME A
STATISTIC. BUT WHAT WE'RE SAYING
IS THAT WE, THE GOVERNMENT HERE
IN CALIFORNIA WANTS TO BAN THE
ABILITY FOR SOME OF THESE LAW
ABIDING CITIZENS WHO WILL USE
GUNS TO DEFEND THEMSELVES, THEIR
FAMILIES, THEIR HOMES, THEIR
BUSINESSES, THEIR TRAVELS. BUT
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE
ABILITY TO DO THAT. YOU'RE GONNA
HAVE TO FIND SOME OTHER MENTAL
OF DOING THIS. WE HAVE
COMMUNITIES IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA. WHERE THERE ARNOLD
GUN STORES. GUN SHELLS ARE THE
ONLY PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN
AVAIL THEMSELVES. OF THE
EXERCISE OF THEIR SECOND
AMENDMENT RIGHTS TO ACQUIRE A
FIREARM. AND AGAIN LAWFULLY. WE
HAVE A BOOK THIS THICK WITH ALL
THE GUN LAWS IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA THEY GOVERN EVERY
TRANSACTION. AT A GUN SHOW. THEY
HAVE NOT BEEN VIOLATED. IN
DECADES. THAT IS THE TRUTH. THAT
IS THE TRUTH. AND THAT IS WHY WE
ARE SO. VEHEMENTLY OPPOSED TO
ANYTHING THAT WOULD PREVENT A
LEGAL ACTIVITY. FROM TAKING
PLACE ON PUBLIC PROPERTY THAT WE
OWN, NOT ONLY THE FAMILIES OF
VICTIMS, BUT THE FAMILIES OF THE
SURVIVORS. THEY OWN THAT
PROPERTY, TOO. SO FOR THOSE
REASONS GUNNERS, CALIFORNIA IS
ADAMANTLY OPPOSED TO THIS BILL.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND THERE
ARE ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN THE
ROOM AND OPPOSITION. TWO SB 915
MR. CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE FOR THE RECORD, DAN
REED WITH NATIONAL RIFLE
ASSOCIATION AND OPPOSITION.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER
WITNESSES. THEN WE'LL GO TO THE
PHONE LINES, WITNESSES AND
OPPOSITION TO SB 915 NAME AND
ORGANIZATION, PLEASE. IF YOU ARE
IN OPPOSITION, YOU CAN PRESS ONE
AND ZERO AT THIS TIME. OUR FIRST
COMMENT COMES FROM LINE. 27,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. CHAIRMAN
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. MY
NAME IS BILL GAINES, SPEAKING
TODAY ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA BOWMAN HUNTER STATE
ARCHERY ASSOCIATION, ROCKY
MOUNTAIN FOUNDATION, THE
CALIFORNIA HOUSEMAN FOR
CONSERVATION, THE CALIFORNIA
CHAPTER OF THE WILD SHEEP
FOUNDATION. AND THE SAN
FRANCISCO BAY AREA CHAPTER OF
SAFARI CLUB INTERNATIONAL AND
SIX OTHER NONPROFIT OF WILDLIFE
CONSERVATION ORGANIZATIONS WHO
WOULD BE IMPACTED BY THIS BILL,
ALL IN STRONG OPPOSITION TO
SENATE BILL 9 15. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. OUR NEXT LINE IS
LYING. 37, PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD
MORNING. MY NAME IS STEVE ROD.
I'M WITH THE CALIFORNIA RIFLE
AND PISTOL ASSOCIATION, THE
NATIONAL RIFLE ASSOCIATION IN
THE US, MAYBE VETERANS. AND I
STRONGLY URGE THE COMMITTEE TO
OPPOSE SENATE BILL 915. THANK
YOU. OUR NEXT LINE IS LINE 29,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. THINK. THANK
YOU. THIS IS ARLENE ELLIS. I'M A
MEMBER OF THE CALIFORNIA RIFLE
AND PISTOL ASSOCIATION, THE A D
. C PROJECT WOMEN FOR GUN
RIGHTS. THE ARMED WOMAN WOMEN OF
AMERICA. ENEMA COMPETITIVE
PISTOL SHOOTER. AND I AM
VEHEMENTLY OPPOSED TO SP 9 15
AND ITS AUTHOR. THANK YOU. LINE
39 IS NEXT. PLEASE GO AHEAD.
GOOD MORNING CHAIR. THIS IS
DARREN. BUT WELL, I'M A RESIDENT
OF ELK GROVE, CALIFORNIA AND A
MEMBER OF THE CALIFORNIA RIFLE
AND PISTOL ASSOCIATION, CALLING
INTO VOICE MY OPPOSITION TO SB 9
15. THANK YOU. BY 19. PLEASE GO
AHEAD. HI MR CHAIRMAN AND
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, MARK
HENLEY WITH CALIFORNIA WATERFALL
ASSOCIATION AND STRONG
OPPOSITION. THANK YOU. GLIDING
41, PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD
MORNING. DARYN REMEMBERS. THIS
IS SERENA LODGES FOSTER COUNTY
AND WOMEN THAT STAND FOR
CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS. WE ARE IN
STRONG OPPOSITION OF SP 9 13,
YOU WILL NOT INFRINGE UPON OUR
SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS. THANK
YOU. LINE 15 YEAR NEXT GO AHEAD.
MR CHAIR THAT TIM MCMAHON I'M
THE CHAIR OF THE SOUTH
SACRAMENTO CHAPTER OF THE
CALIFORNIA RIFLE AND PISTOL
ASSOCIATION IN AND IN OUR A
MEMBER IN STRONG OPPOSITION.
PLANE 28 YEAR NET. HELLO. MY
NAME IS ELIJAH. I AM A VOLUNTEER
WITH THE CRP A AND I'M IN STRONG
OPPOSITION OF SENATE BILL 915.
THANK YOU. NEXUS LINE 40. YOUR
LINE IS OPEN. GOOD MORNING. MY
NAME IS JOSE. LOCALS SOVEREIGNS.
I'M A MEMBER OF THE CALIFORNIA
RIFLE ASSOCIATION. SEE HIM. HE
OPPOSED THE 915. THANK YOU. NEXT
IS LINE 35. YOUR LINE IS OPEN.
THANK YOU, MR CHAIRMAN. MY NAME
IS MIKE BRANCO. I'M CALLING FROM
IRVINE. I'M A FIREARMS
INSTRUCTOR AND A MEMBER OF THE
CALIFORNIA PISTOL ASSOCIATION
OPPOSED THE THIRD ROUNDS BELONG
TO THE PEOPLE AND I THINK
COMMUNITIES CAN BEST DECIDE.
THANK YOU. NEXT LINE, 42 YOUR
LINE IS OPEN. MY NAME IS JACK
MARSHALL. I'M A CALIFORNIA RIFLE
AND PISTOL ASSOCIATION VOLUNTEER
MEMBER OF ALREADY I'M ALSO
DISABLED. THE UNITED STATES ARMY
VETERAN I BELIEVE THAT GUN
RIGHTS ARE WOMEN'S RIGHTS. AND I
THINK LIKE PASSING SOMETHING
LIKE THIS, YOU ARE YOU ARE
UNDERMINING OF A WOMAN'S ABILITY
TO DEFEND HERSELF. I AM
VEHEMENTLY OPPOSED TO THIS.
REQUEST THAT YOU DO NOT PASSED
IF YOU SIMPLY GET SOME SENSE IN
YOUR HEAD AND DROP THIS SORT OF
THING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
MHM. NEXT IS LINE 21. YOUR LINE
IS OPEN. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME
IS DAN WILSON HUNT. AND THE
CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER OF THE
CALIFORNIA DEAR ASSOCIATION ON
BEHALF OF OUR 17,000, PLUS
MEMBERS LIKE TO ADAMANTLY
OPPOSE, LIKE FOR YOU TO RECORD
IT. REQUEST FOR YOU TO OPPOSE
THIS LEGISLATION. THANK YOU. MR
CHAIR. WE HAVE NOBODY ELSE AND
QUÊ. OKAY. THANK YOU. NOW BRING
IT TO COMMITTEE MEMBERS FOR
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, MR QUIRK.
WHERE TO START NUMBER ONE
PERSON'S KILLED. BYE BYE. GUNS
IS SUICIDE. NUMBER TWO. IT'S
FAMILY MEMBERS. HAVING A GUN IN
YOUR HOUSE DOES NOT PROTECT YOU
PERIOD AND I DON'T WANT TO HEAR
ANYTHING FROM YOU GOT THE
NUMBERS NOW. I HAVE A COUPLE OF
CONCERNS HERE. SO I HAVE IN THE
PAST WHEN THE LOCAL WHEN IT'S
CLEAR THAT THE LOCAL PEOPLE
DIDN'T WANT IT ON THEIR
FAIRGROUNDS. I'VE SUPPORTED YOU
ON THAT BILL. AND I SUPPORTED
OTHERS. MY CONCERN WITH THIS IS
THAT YOU'RE ALSO GOING TO GET
COUNTIES THAT WANT TO HAVE GUN
SHOWS AND INSTEAD OF HAVING IT
THE FAIRGROUND DON'T HAVE IT
SOMEWHERE ELSE, AND I DON'T
THINK THAT THAT REALLY HELPS THE
SITUATION. SO COULD YOU RESPOND
TO MY CONCERN? THANK YOU.
REMEMBER I APPRECIATE THAT. UM
SO IN RESPONSE, I THINK TO THE
FIRST PART OF THAT QUESTION, UM
, WHEN WE WERE TRYING TO GET THE
ORANGE COUNTY BAN ON GUN SHOWS
LAST YEAR ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
ARE LOCAL FAIRGROUND TOLD US
REPEATEDLY WAS THAT THEY COULD
NOT END GUN SHOWS, EVEN IF THEY
WANTED TO, BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE
THAT UNDER THE LANGUAGE
GOVERNING THEIR FIDUCIARY DUTIES
AS DIRECTORS THEY HAD A DUTY TO
MAXIMIZE REVENUES THEY HAD TO
TAKE IN GUN SHOWS. UH SO I THINK
THIS EFFECTIVELY SOLVES THAT
PROBLEM. COUNTY PROBLEM. IT
SOLVES THE STATEWIDE PROBLEM. I
THINK ALSO, UM AND I JUST WOULD
REFER BACK TO THE CONSTITUTIONAL
ARGUMENT. HERE WHEN WE TALK
ABOUT THE CONSTITUTION, THE
CONSTITUTION GUARANTEED WE DON'T
THAT WASN'T MY QUESTION. MY
QUESTION IS IN A COUNTY THAT
WANTS TO HAVE GUN SHOWS. WHAT
PURPOSE IS SERVED BY MOVING IT
TO ANOTHER LOCATION, WHICH MAY
NOT BE AS WELL MONITORED. I
BELIEVE ONE. YOU KNOW THAT IT
WILL BE WELL REGULATED UNDER THE
LAWS THAT WE HAVE IN THE STATE.
UH TWO. I AM NOT SURE THAT I
AGREE WITH THE PREMISE OR
ASSERTION THAT GUN SHOWS ARE AS
WELL REGULATED TO SOME OF THE
PROPONENTS ARE STATING THAT WE
DID HEAR FROM CHIEF LINLEY. MY
STAFF VISITED A GUN SHOW NOT SO
LONG AGO IN WHICH MEMBERS OF MY
STAFF IN LINE WERE APPROACHED
ABOUT THE PURCHASE OF WEAPONS.
THEY OVERHEARD ONE PERSON SAYING
HE HAD A BRIEFCASE FULL OF
KNIVES THAT HE WAS LOOKING TO
EXCHANGE FOR A GUN OFF BOOKS.
WHAT YOU SEE AT THESE GUN SHOWS
IS A AGAIN THAT'S NOT ADDRESSING
MY QUESTION. MY QUESTION IS,
WILL IT REALLY BE SAFER IF YOU
MOVE IT TO ANOTHER LOCATION IN
THE COUNTY THAT WANTS TO HAVE
GUN SHOWS? AND I THINK THAT LAST
POINT I WAS MAKING GETS TO YOUR
POINT, WHICH IS IF THEY ARE NOT
AS SAFE AS CLAIMED TO BEGIN
WITH. YOU KNOW, WE WERE TALKING
ABOUT HYPOTHETICALS HERE. BUT IF
IT MOVES TO ANOTHER LOCATION,
MAYBE IT WON'T MOVE TO ANOTHER
LOCATION. IF IT DOES MOVE DOWN
THE LOCATION. MAYBE IT MOVES TO
A GUN DEALER, WHICH I BELIEVE
ARE VERY WELL REGULATED. UM YOU
KNOW, SO THERE'S A LOT OF
DIFFERENT OPTIONS HERE, BUT BUT
I WOULD JUST SAY IT'S A
PRINCIPLE OF THIS BILL. THE
STATE SHOULD NOT BE USING OUR
TAXPAYER DOLLARS AND OUR
PROPERTY TO PROMOTE THE SALE.
GUNS IN OUR COMMUNITY NOW MAY
WELL BE THE CASE THAT IT'S JUST
LIKE SQUEEZING A BALLOON AND
WE'LL END UP WITH MORE DEALERS
AND MORE GUN SHOWS POPPING UP IN
OTHER AREAS. IT MAY ALSO BE THE
CASE. ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S THAT BY
ENDING GUN SHOWS ON STATE
PROPERTY WILL BE REDUCING THE
OVERALL DISTRIBUTION OF GUNS IN
OUR COMMUNITY, AND THAT I
BELIEVE IS WHAT I BELIEVE WILL
HAPPEN, AND I THINK THAT'S GIVEN
THE FACT THAT THERE IS THERE ARE
SO MANY STUDIES OUT THERE,
FINDING ESSENTIALLY 1 TO 1
CORRELATION. BETWEEN THE SAILOR
DISTRIBUTION OF GUNS AND GUN
VIOLENCE, ATTEMPTS TO REDUCE THE
DISTRIBUTION OF GUNS, INCLUDING
GETTING THEM OFF OUR STATE
PROPERTY. WE HAVE TO TRY AND SO
AGAIN I DON'T DEAL IN
HYPOTHETICALS. I DON'T KNOW THAT
YOU'RE WRONG. BUT I WOULD JUST
SAY WE CAN'T LET THE PERFECT BE
THE ENEMY OF THE GOOD. WE HAVE
TO TRY TO GET RID OF GUNS
DISTRIBUTION AGAINST. WE HAVE
TOO MANY GUNS IN THE STATE. TOO
MANY GUNS IN THIS COUNTRY. THEY
HAVE LED TO AN EXPLOSION
EPIDEMIC IN GUN VIOLENCE AND WE
SAW IN 2020 2021 RECORD NUMBERS
OF NUMBERS OF GUN SALES
HAPPENING. WE KNEW THOSE OF US
WHO LOOK AT ANYBODY. OKAY?
YOU'VE ANSWERED MY QUESTION. LET
ME SAY I CAN VOTE FOR THIS TODAY
. BUT IF YOU DON'T CHANGE IT, SO
THAT COUNTIES AT LEAST THE BOARD
OF SUPERVISORS HAS A SAY IN
THIS, THEN I WON'T BE SUPPORTING
IT ON THE FLOOR. I APPRECIATE
THAT, AND I HOPE YOU CHANGE YOUR
MIND ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S AND LOOK
FORWARD TO DISCUSSING. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER
COMMENT. SEYARTO OKAY? BEEN I
RESPECT THAT. LAST YEAR I VOTE
IF THEIR EMOTIONS I'LL MOVE THE
BILL. AND YOU MAKE ALL YOUR
CLOTHES. THAT I WANT TO THANK
YOU. UM THIS IS AN INTERESTING
TOPIC AND CONVERSATION. UM, I'M
SURE AT LEAST THE ADVOCATES THAT
COME HERE EVERY WEEK. THERE.
THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE MASS
SHOOTINGS JUST AS WE ARE AND DO
CARE. UM IT'S INTERESTING THAT
SOMEONE MENTIONED ABOUT WOMEN.
AND THEM BEING SAFE. M. MOST OF
THE MASS SHOOTINGS ARE DONE BY
MEN. SO MAYBE THE RESTRICTION WE
SHOULD LOOK AT MEN. AND OUR
ABILITY TO HAVE WEAPONS. MAYBE
JUST MAKE SURE THAT ONLY WOMEN
HAVE WEAPONS. BUT YOU KNOW, I
FACETIOUS IN THAT RESPECT, BUT
THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG GOING ON
OUT THERE AND YOU MAKE A VALID
POINT. THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG
GOING OUT THERE WITH MEN WITH
GUNS, ESPECIALLY WAS A GOOD
GUYS. WITH GUNS GOING IN.
GETTING THEM AND THEN. CREATING
HAVOC AND HARM IN OUR COMMUNITY,
AND WE REALLY NEED TO JUST LOOK
SERIOUSLY. LOOK AT THAT. SO I
KNOW THIS IS NOT PART OF WHAT
YOU'RE TRYING TO DO, UH, BUT
IT'S REALLY ABOUT WHAT CAN THE
STATE DO SO? CHAIRS
RECOMMENDING? I VOTE? ON SP 9 15
BY SENATOR MIN THE MOTION IS DUE
PASSED THE APPROPRIATIONS
COMMITTEE JOHN SAWYER GENSLER
AYE LACKEY LACKEY. NO BONTA. I
BRIAN, BRIAN, I QUIRK QUIRK I
SANTIAGO CR TOÀN Ó. MEASURES ON
THE CALL NEEDS ONE MORE. YOU CAN
NOW GO ON TO SP 13 84. THANK YOU
, MR CHAIR, SP 13 84 WOULD
STRENGTHEN SAFETY STANDARDS FOR
GUN RETAILERS IN AN ATTEMPT TO
PREVENT THEFT, STRAW SALES,
ILLEGAL GUN TRAFFICKING BY
PROVIDING THE TRAINING AND TOOLS
NECESSARY. WITH STAFF, A LEGAL
GUNS OFTEN BEGIN AS LEGAL
FIREARM PURCHASES THAT ARE THEN
FUNNELED INTERNET LEGAL MARKET,
ACCORDING TO DATA FROM THE
GIFFORDS LAWCENTER MORE THAN
30,000 STRAW PURCHASES OR
ATTEMPTED EACH YEAR STRAW
PURCHASE IS WHEN SOMEBODY TRIES
TO PURCHASE A GUN LEGALLY, BUT
THEN FUNNEL IT TO AN ILLEGAL
PURCHASER OR ILLEGAL MARKET.
WHILE GANDHI LAWYERS ARE
CONSIDERED FIRST IN LINE TO
SECURE THE LAWFUL TRANSFER
FIREARMS THERE'S CURRENTLY NO
TRAINING REQUIREMENT ON HOW TO
RECOGNIZE SIGNS OF ILLEGAL
ACTIVITY. THEFT IS ANOTHER
PROBLEM IN GUN RETAILERS IS VERY
PERSISTENT, AND IT'S ANOTHER WAY
THAT FIREARMS REACHED THE
ILLICIT MARKET. TO ADDRESS THESE
ISSUES. SP 13 84 WOULD REQUIRE
FIREARM DEALERS AND EMPLOYEES TO
COMPLETE REGULAR TRAINING ON HOW
TO PREVENT ILLEGAL SALES AND
REQUIRE FIREARM DEALERS TO HAVE
VIDEO SURVEILLANCE ALARMS.
PHYSICAL SECURITY MEASURES AND
CARRY A LIMITED GENERAL
LIABILITY INSURANCE POLICY.
THESE ARE COMMON SENSE SOLUTIONS
THAT WOULD GREATLY INCREASED
SAFETY IN COMMUNITIES ACROSS
CALIFORNIA. TODAY I HAVE WITH ME
STEVE LINDLEY WITH BRADY.
OAKLAND GUN VIOLENCE PREVENTION
ADVOCATE TO TESTIFY AND SUPPORT
OF THIS BILL. THANK YOU. MYTH.
MISS MILLER AND MR LINDLEY
AGAIN. WHENEVER YOU'RE READY, 18
T OPERATORS THEY CAN TESTIFY.
FIVE MINUTES. TOTAL. LINES ARE
OPEN. GO AHEAD. CAN YOU HEAR ME?
YES. OKAY THANK YOU. TO THE
MEMBERS OF THIS COMMITTEE FOR
ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK ON THIS
IMPORTANT ISSUE. TODAY I'M HERE
AS A MOTHER AND A SURVIVOR OF
GUN VIOLENCE IN 2000 AND 16. I
LOST MY YOUNGEST SON TO GUN
VIOLENCE JUST BLOCKS FROM MY
HOME IN WEST OAKLAND. HE WAS
JUST 19 YEARS OLD. A FEW YEARS
LATER IN 2020. MY ON MY BIRTHDAY
. MY OLDEST SON WAS SHOT. HE
SURVIVED, BUT I WONDER, OFTEN
ABOUT HIS SAFETY EVEN AS HE LAY
IN THE HOSPITAL. I KNOW WHAT GUN
VIOLENCE DOES TO A FAMILY. TO A
COMMUNITY. I LIVE WITH THIS
DEVASTATING EFFECT EVERY DAY.
THERE ARE MANY THINGS WE CAN DO
TO PREVENT GUN VIOLENCE. ONE OF
THEM. PASSED LEGISLATION LIKE SB
13 84. THERE ARE DEALERS WHO
PROFIT FROM THE GUN VIOLENCE IN
OUR COMMUNITY LIKE MINE. THERE
ARE STEPS THAT CAN TAKE A TO
PREVENT FROM BEING TRAFFICKED.
THEY'RE CONVINCED THERE CAN
PREVENT DANGEROUS. FIREARM SALES
, BUT RIGHT NOW THERE ARE NO
FEDERAL LAWS OR REGULATIONS THAT
REQUIRE DEALERS TO OFFER BASIC
TRAINING, SECURITY OR OFTEN
SAFETY MEASURES. AND WHILE
CALIFORNIA HAS TAKEN SOME
ACTION, IT HASN'T BEEN ENOUGH.
AS A RESULT, FAMILIES LIKE MINE
, BLACK AND BROWN FAMILIES
ACROSS OAKLAND ARE LEFT TO PICK
UP THE PIECES. WHEN THEIR LOVED
ONES ARE VIOLENT TAKEN FROM
THEM. WE CAN KEEP OTHERS FROM
EXPERIENCE AND WHAT I HAVE
EXPERIENCED BY SP 13 84. IT IS
LIFESAVING LEGISLATION THAT
WOULD STRENGTHEN GUN DEALERS.
STANDARDS OVERSIGHT AND
SECURITY, IT WOULD HELP PREVENT
GUN TRAFFICKING, AND IT WOULD
HELP DEALERS UNDERSTAND THAT
THEY HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO
VOTE TO PASS. SB 13 80 FOR OUR
COMMUNITY CAN'T KEEP LOSING OUR
CHILDREN. THANK YOU FOR TAKING
MY TIME. THANK YOU. GOOD
AFTERNOON. NOONA COMMITTEE
MEMBERS. MY NAME IS STEVEN AND
I'M HERE IN REPRESENTATION FOR
BRADY UNITED EACH YEAR MORE THAN
124,000. AMERICANS ARE VICTIMS
OF GUN VIOLENCE AND WAS 35,000
ARE KILLED. ACCESS TO GUNS IS A
CRITICAL COMPONENT OF CHRONIC
VIOLENCE. A COMPREHENSIVE
APPROACH TO REDUCING GUN
VIOLENCE MUST INCLUDE A FOCUS ON
THE SOURCE OF CRIME GUNS THAT
ARE FIGHTING COMMUNITIES,
ESPECIALLY OUR COMMUNITIES OF
COLOR. SP 13 84 WOULD DO JUST
THAT BY REQUIRING FIREARM
DEALERS AND EMPLOYEES. KEEP
COMPLETE TRAINING ANNUALLY
RECORDING DEALERS TO HAVE A
DIGITAL VIDEO SURVEILLANCE
SYSTEM CARRY A POLICY OF GENERAL
LIABILITY INSURANCE AND ENHANCE
THEIR SECURITY SYSTEMS. KRAMDEN
BEGIN AS LEGAL FIREARMS, UM,
INITIALLY SOLD BY DEALERS AND
SUBSEQUENTLY FUNNELED INTO LEGAL
MARKET, OFTEN THROUGH STRAW
PURCHASES. PERSON BUYS A FIREARM
ON BEHALF OF ANOTHER. FALSELY
REPRESENTING THAT. AS FOR
THEMSELVES, STRAW PURCHASES
WHICH UNDERMINE OUR FIRE AND
BACKGROUND CHECK SYSTEM MAKE IT
MORE DIFFICULT FOR LAW
ENFORCEMENT TO TRACE FIREARMS
FROM THE CRIME SCENES PURCHASES
ARE THE MOST FREQUENT TYPE OF
TRAFFICKING CHANNEL IDENTIFIED
BY LAW ENFORCEMENT. DESPITE THE
SUBSTANTIAL RISK, AND THE FACT
THAT GUNN BEATERS CAN PLAY A
CRITICAL ROLE IN REPRESENTING
AND PREVENTING VIOLENCE IN OUR
COMMUNITIES WERE NOT
SUFFICIENTLY REGULATED
ENFORCEMENT CONSIDERS LICENSED
FIREARM USED TO BE THE FIRST
LINE AND MAINTAIN THE SECURITY
UNLAWFUL TRANSFER FINALS. BUT IT
MERELY ISSUES GUIDANCE ON SAFE
BUSINESS PRACTICES THAT DEALERS
CAN ADOPT ON A VOLUNTARY BASIS
AND DOES NOT PROVIDE ENOUGH
OVERSIGHT OF THESE BUSINESS
PRACTICES. VEN HERE IN
CALIFORNIA. IN CALIFORNIA THE
EFFECT OF ACCESS TO THESE DRAFT
FIREARMS AND COMMUNITIES OF
COLOR CAPPY UNDERESTIMATED BLACK
MEN MAKE UP 6% OF THE STATE'S
POPULATION, YET THEY REPRESENT
OVER 31% OF THE GUN HOMICIDE
VICTIM. BLACK MEN BETWEEN THE
AGES OF 15 AND 34, OR MORE THAN
20 TIMES, AS LIKELY AS WHITE MEN
OF THE SAME AGE TO BE MURDERED
WITH A GUN AND BLACK CHILDREN
AND TEENS OR 14 TIMES AS LIKELY
AS WHITE CHILDREN. TO DIE. BUY A
GUN. THIS LEGISLATION IS
CRITICAL AND CURBING. DIG
YOURSELVES PREVENTED FIREARMS
FROM BEING DIVERTED INTO THE
CRIMINAL MARKET AND REDUCING THE
LIKELIHOOD OF STRUCK PURCHASES
THAT BURGLARY AND LOSS OF
INVENTORY. THIS BILL STRENGTHENS
FIREARM DUE TO STANDARDS AND
OVERSIGHT IN CALIFORNIA TO
ENSURE FIRE AND LEADERS HAVE THE
TOOLS THEY NEED TO PREVENT FIRE
TRAFFICKING AND UNDERSTAND THEY
HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO ENGAGE IN
RESPONSIBLE BUSINESS PRACTICES.
DOES THAT BE? THIS BILL REQUIRED
FARM RETAILERS AND THEIR
EMPLOYEES COMPLETE REGULAR
TRAINING CREATED AND OVERSEEN BY
THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT
JUSTICE TO PREVENT ILLEGAL SALES
AND ENHANCE THEIR BUSINESS
PRACTICES REQUIRING RETAILERS TO
IMPLEMENTS POINT OF SALE AND
EXTERNAL VIDEO AND AUDIO
SURVEILLANCE. INTENDED TO
PREVENT DANGEROUS CELLS, AND
THAT'S VIOLENCE REQUIRE
RETAILERS TO ME MAINTAIN A $1
MILLION IN LIFE INSURANCE WHILE
IN THE BUSINESS OF SELLING
PROGRAMS AND TO SHARE THAT
VICTIMS. UH THIS WILL ENSURE THE
VICTIMS OF NEGLIGENT,
IRRESPONSIBLE AND CRIMINAL
ACTIONS BY VIEWERS CAN BE
COMPENSATED. THAT INCLUDES
ADDITIONAL MENU TO SECURITY
STANDARDS, PREVENT STEPS,
INCLUDING SMASH AND GRAB EVENTS
, WHICH HAVE BEEN ON THE RISE
OVER THE LAST DECADE. THANK YOU
FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK
TODAY AND I ASKED FOR YOUR I
VOTE. THANK YOU. WELL NOW TAKE
IT TO THE THOSE IN OPPOSITION.
OH, SORRY PHONE LINE. IN
SUPPORT. ONCE AGAIN IF YOU WOULD
LIKE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT, PLEASE
PRESS ONE AND ZERO ON YOUR PHONE
LINE. FIRST SUPPORT IS LINE 51,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. LINE 51. YOUR
LINE IS OPEN. YES. HELLO? CAN
YOU HEAR ME? YES. NAME AND
ORGANIZATION, PLEASE. YES NO. MY
NAME IS STEPHANIE. I'M A PRIVATE
CITIZEN AND I AM A GUN OWNER.
AND I HAVE BOUGHT FIRE. THAT
SELLS OF A GUN DEALER. BUT MY
POINT IS IT IS ILLEGAL TO NAME
AN ORGANIZATION, OKAY? THANK
YOU. PRIVATE CITIZENS. THANK
YOU. WINE IS LYING. 53, PLEASE
GO AHEAD. I'M SORRY. THE NEXT
LINE IS LINE. 13, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. HELLO. PLANE 13 YEAR LINE
IS OPEN. YES, SIR. WE CAN HEAR
YOU. PLEASE GO AHEAD. YES PETER
STEIN CALLING FROM WAVES. AND
I'M IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL AND
THE SIMPLE REQUIREMENTS THAT
PUTS ON FIREARM DEALERS. THANK
THANK YOU. NEXT LINE IS 53,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD MORNING,
JAMIE MINOR ON BEHALF OF THE
GIFFORDS LAWCENTER TO PREVENT
GUN VIOLENCE IN SUPPORT. THANKS
SO MUCH. THANK YOU. NEXT LINE IS
LINE 33. PLEASE GO AHEAD AND.
PLANE 33 YOUR LINE IS OPEN.
MOVING ON TO LINE TWO. PLEASE GO
AHEAD. I'M SORRY LINE. 12,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. LINE, 12, YOUR
LINE IS OPEN. CAN YOU HEAR ME?
YES. OKAY THIS IS PIPER WITH
AMERICAN WOMEN FOR AMERICAN
VALUES AND ETHICS CALLING IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. MR CHAIR AT
THIS TIME, WE HAVE NO FURTHER IN
QUÊ. OKAY, NOW WE'RE HERE FROM
WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION OF SB
13 84. I WANNA THANK YOU FOR
KEEPING ME ON TRACK. GOT YOUR
BACK? THAT'S BETTER. MR CHAIR
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE FOR THE
RECORD, DAN REED, WESTERN
REGIONAL DIRECTOR WITH THE
NATIONAL RIFLE ASSOCIATION.
WE'RE HERE IN STRONG OPPOSITION
TO SB 13 84 YOU HEARD SENATOR
MAN REFERENCE AND SP 9 15
EARLIER THAT DEALERS ARE VERY
WELL REGULATED. YET HERE WE ARE,
WITH THE BILL HAT'S GOING TO
PLACE MORE ONEROUS RESTRICTIONS
ON THESE DEALERS. THESE DEALERS
ARE COMMITTED TO PROTECTING
THEIR INVENTORY INTO FOLLOWING
THE LITANY OF FEDERAL AND STATE
REGULATIONS, AND IF YOU LOOK AT
THEM, THEY HAVE EXCELLENT
COMPLIANCE RECORD WHEN YOU THINK
ABOUT WHAT THEY GO THROUGH THEIR
SUBJECT TO MANY INSPECTIONS,
PEOPLE GO THROUGH THEIR BOOKS
WITH TOOTH AND NAIL ARE WITH A
FINE TOOTH COMB. AS THEY INSPECT
THINGS. THEY JUST HAVE A
COMMITMENT TO FOLLOWING THE LAW
BECAUSE IT IT IS THEIR
LIVELIHOODS INCUMBENT UPON IT
RIGHT. IF THEY'RE IN VIOLATION,
THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE PROBLEMS
AND THEY DO HAVE A LOT OF
REQUIREMENTS RIGHT NOW IS FAR AS
PROVIDING A SECURE FACILITY
ALARM SYSTEMS, ETCETERA THAT ARE
EXISTING RIGHT. IF YOU LOOK AT
THE 2021 NUMBERS, THERE WAS OVER
A MILLION FIREARMS SOLD IN THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA. I THINK
THERE WAS ALMOST 1.1 MILLION. IN
THAT SAME YEAR WHEN IT CAME TO
THE LOST AND STOLEN FIREARMS
FROM LICENSED DEALERS. WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT 100 AND 19 FROM
BURGLARY. 22 FROM LARCENY IN 66
FROM LOS THAT'S THAT'S MINI
SCHOOL AND COMPARED TO THE
NUMBER OF GUNS SOLD, NOT TO
MENTION THE NUMEROUS OTHER GUNS
THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN THEIR
INVENTORY, AND WHAT THIS BILL
WOULD DO IS IT'S GOING TO PILE
ON MORE AND MORE REGULATIONS,
AND IT ALSO ALLOWS FOR
LOCALITIES TO CONTINUE TO PILE
ON. AND SOME OF THESE
REQUIREMENTS COULD PLACE THESE
DEALERS OUT OF BUSINESS JUST
BECAUSE IT'S JUST TOO ARDUOUS TO
COMPLY WITH. THESE DEALERS IN
THE IN OUR AIR COMMITTED TO
PREVENTING THE ILLEGAL FLOW OF
FIREARMS. THIS IS NOT THE BILL
TO DO IT. LET'S GO AFTER LET'S
PROSECUTE THOSE CRIMINALS. LET'S
UTILIZE EXISTING LAWS ON THE
BOOKS. WE DON'T NEED TO PILE
MORE AND MORE RESTRICTIONS ON
THOSE DEALERS THAT WERE IN
OPPOSITION. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU, MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS SAM
PAREDES, REPRESENTING GUNNERS,
CALIFORNIA AND I'D LIKE TO SET
ONE THING STRAIGHT. I AM A
CALIFORNIA LICENSED DEALER,
FIREARMS DEALER UNDER STATE OF
CALIFORNIA AND NFL WITH THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. I AM HERE TO
TELL YOU THAT THE BUREAU OF
ALCOHOL, TOBACCO AND FIREARMS
REGULARLY SENDS US TRAINING
MATERIAL ON STRAW PURCHASES.
THEY ACTUALLY TELL YOU THE SUN
AND THE TELLTALE SIGNS AND HOW
TO IDENTIFY A SUSPECTED UM AH,
PURCHASER AND HOW TO REPORT
THEM. WE GET THAT ON A REGULAR
BASIS. THEY ALSO POINT OUT WHAT
THE CRIMES ARE. FOR VIOLATING
THE PROVISIONS OF OUR LICENSE,
INCLUDING LOSING OR LICENSE TO
CONDUCT FIREARMS. BUSINESS
NUMBER ONE NUMBER. TWO THERE ARE
SIGNIFICANT ISSUES. WITH THIS
BILL THAT VIOLATE I BELIEVE, UM,
FREEDOM OF SPEECH. PROTECTED
SPEECH. FREEDOM OF ASSOCIATION,
UM AND JUST TO MENTION A COUPLE
WHEN THIS BILL CAME EARLIER, AND
IT IS NOT MUCH DIFFERENT, UM IN
IN PREVIOUS YEARS, THERE WAS
EVEN THE AMERICAN CIVIL
LIBERTIES UNION THAT WAS HERE
TESTIFYING THAT THEY HAVE A
PROBLEM WITH HAVING VIDEO
SURVEILLANCE. OF PARKING LOTS.
THAT MIGHT SHARE THE SAME
PARKING LOT. WITH A PLANNED
PARENTHOOD FACILITY. OR SOME
OTHER, A LIQUOR STORE OR
SOMETHING. AND YOU ARE
RECORDING. VIDEO. WITHOUT
PEOPLE'S PERMISSION ON PRIVATE
PROPERTY REQUIRED BY PRIVATE
PROPERTY. THIS IS NOT
GOVERNMENT. THIS IS PRIVATE
INDIVIDUALS RECORDING THE
COMINGS AND GOINGS OF PRIVATE
CITIZENS RECORDING THE
CONVERSATIONS THAT THEY HAVE IN
THE STORE. AND IT WAS POINTED
OUT IN THE PREVIOUS ITERATION OF
THIS BILL, THAT IT WAS NOT A
SIMPLE EXPENSE. WE WERE TALKING
MINIMUM NUMBERS OF 15,000 TO 25
OR $30,000. TO PUT THE CAMERA
SURVEILLANCE. THE RUNNING 24 7.
WHAT THEY WERE THE
SPECIFICATIONS FOR THE
EQUIPMENT. IT WAS EXPENSIVE TO
SAY THE LEAST. MHM AND IF. IF
THERE WAS EVEN THE SHRED OF
HOPE. THAT'S SOMETHING LIKE THIS
WAS GONNA REDUCE CRIME. WE WOULD
CONSIDER THAT BUT WE HAVE
ABSOLUTELY NO BELIEF THAT BY
TRAMPLING ON PEOPLE'S OTHER
CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS IN ORDER.
TO TRY TO ACHIEVE A GOVERNMENT
STATED GOAL IS THE WRONG WAY TO
GO? IN A FEW DAYS. WE'RE GOING
TO GET A RULING FROM THE UNITED
STATES SUPREME COURT THAT MIGHT
IMPACT THIS BILL AND A WHOLE LOT
OF OTHER LAWS THAT WE HAVE IN
THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. AND THE
CONVERSATIONS THAT WE WILL BE
HAVING WILL BE VASTLY DIFFERENT.
THEY WILL BE DIRECTED AT%
CRIMINAL ACTIONS, NOT. UH MORE
RULES AND REGULATIONS PLACED ON
THE LAW ABIDING THERE ARE OTHER
LÀ BODY. THERE ARE THE 99. WE
DON'T DO ANYTHING AGAINST THE 1%
THAT ARE WILLING TO COMMIT
CRIMES. AND AS LONG AS WE
CONTINUE TO LOOK AT DUNCAN
CONTROL INSTEAD OF CRIME
CONTROL. WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE
TO HAVE THESE INCIDENCES OF
VIOLENCE, AND THAT'S A SHAME. SO
FOR THOSE REASONS WERE IN STRONG
OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL, AND
HOPE THAT YOU WILL CONSIDER ONLY
NO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YES. WE
DON'T OPPOSITION TO THE PHONE
LINES. UH HUH. ANY OTHER
OPPOSITION TO ROOM. MR CHAIRMAN
MEMBERS ROY GRIFFITH ON BEHALF
OF CALIFORNIA RIFLE AND PISTOL
ASSOCIATION ARE THOUSANDS OF
MEMBERS THROUGHOUT CALIFORNIA
AND OUR SMALL BUSINESSES WE
REPRESENT. WE ARE STRONG
OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL. THANK
YOU. ARE YOU RETIRING? ROY? YES,
SIR. YOUR LAST TIME HERE. THIS
THIS SESSION, SIR. THANK YOU
WILL BE HERE. I'LL BE HERE TILL
THE END OF THIS SESSION
YESTERDAY. WE'LL HAVE TIME.
OKAY. WE'LL HAVE TIME. YES, SIR.
ANY OTHERS IN THE ROOM IN
OPPOSITION. THEN WE'LL GO TO THE
PHONE LINES AND OPPOSITION. SB
13 84. ONCE AGAIN IF YOU WISH TO
SPEAK IN OPPOSITION, PLEASE
PRESS 10 AT THIS TIME. THAT'S
HIS LINE 48 AIRLINE IS OPEN.
FLYING 48. YOUR LINE IS OPEN.
YES. GOOD MORNING. I AM AN SSL
DEALER. MY NAME IS T. J JUNIOR.
AND YOU'RE IN OPPOSITION NAME
AND ORGANIZATION. YES I AM. AN
OPPOSITION OF MECCA FELL DEALER
I ALSO LIKE TO I MEAN THE
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA AREA. I AM
IN AN OPPOSITION OF THIS BILL.
LIKE THE PREVIOUS SPEAKERS BOTH
THANK YOU. BILL. IT'S FELT THANK
YOU. NAME AND ORGANIZATION ONLY.
OH, THANK YOU. NEXT LINE IS
LINE. 50, PLEASE GO AHEAD. MY
NAME IS JAMES O'BRIEN WITH THE
CALIFORNIA RIFLE AND PISTOL
ASSOCIATION RESPECTFULLY IN
OPPOSITION OF THIS BILL. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. NEXUS LINE. 41,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. HIS HEIGHT.
WITH YOUR CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF
THE SERENA. WITH PLASTER COUNTY
REPRESENTING WOMEN AGAINST
CONSIDERED UNCONSTITUTIONAL
REGULATIONS, WOMEN THAT NEED TO
PROTECT THEMSELVES FROM
CRIMINALS. WE ARE IN STRONG
OPPOSITION OF SB 13 84, AND WE
REQUEST A NO VOTE. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. NEXT UP IS LYING. 54,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. HELLO MY NAME
IS ELIJAH. STRONG OPPOSITION OF
SENATE BILL SEARCHING 84. UM I
THINK THE QUESTION THAT WE'RE
NOT ASKING OURSELVES IS THE FACT
THAT. THIS ALSO IMPACTS PERSONS
OF COLOR AND ORGANIZATION ONLY.
THANK YOU. NEXT LINE IS LYING.
19, PLEASE GO AHEAD. HOLD SHIFT
WORK. HELLO, MY 19. OH, OPEN. HI
MR CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE MARK HENLEY WITH
CALIFORNIA WATERFOWL ASSOCIATION
AND OPPOSITION. THANK YOU. NEXT
IS LINE 46. YOUR LINE IS OPEN.
HI MY NAME IS TERRY HUME. I AM
AN REMEMBER AND TRP MEMBER AND I
STRONGLY OPPOSED SB 13 NEWS FOR
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT IS LINE 15, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. MR CHAIR. THIS IS TIM
MCMAHON ON THE CHAIR OF THE
SOUTH SACRAMENTO CHAPTER OF THE
CALIFORNIA RIFLE AND PISTOL
ASSOCIATION AND IN OUR A MEMBER
IN STRONG OPPOSITION. THANK YOU.
NEXT TO HIS LINE 51 YOUR LINE IS
OPEN. NAME IS STEPHANIE. I'M A
PRIVATE CITIZEN, AND I'VE
ALREADY GOTTEN A BACKGROUND
CHECK AND HAD MY BATHING PERIOD.
WE ARE TOO STRONG OF WALLS AND
CALIFORNIA CRIMINALS ARE STILL
GOING TO GET GUNS. THANK YOU.
NEXT IS LINE 35, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. KLEIN 35. YOUR LINE IS
OPEN. MOVING ON THE LINE. 39,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD MORNING
ONCE AGAIN TURNED BAD. WELL I'M
A MEMBER OF THE CALIFORNIA RIFLE
ASSOCIATION AND I AM CALLING TO
OPPOSE SB 13 84 THANKS AGAIN.
NEXT AS LINE 49, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. LINE 49. YOUR LINE IS
OPEN. HELLO. CAN YOU HEAR ME?
YES. NAME AND ORGANIZATION,
PLEASE. STEVE RODELL WITH
CALIFORNIA RIFLE PISTOL
ASSOCIATION, NATIONAL RIFLE
ASSOCIATION AND STRONG
OPPOSITION TO 13 84. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, SIR. NEXT IS LINE 29,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. HELLO. YES. OH
THANK YOU. I NEVER GOT A LINE
NUMBER. THIS IS ARLENE ELLIS.
AND I REMEMBER OF THE CALIFORNIA
RIVAL EMPHASIS ASSOCIATION AND A
MEMBER OF THE N R A. D C
PROJECT. WOMEN FOR GUNS, RIGHTS
AND THE ARMS PAYMENT OF AMERICAN
OPPOSITION. THANK YOU. NEXT IS
LINE 21, PLEASE GO AHEAD. 21.
YOUR LINE IS OPEN. NAME AND
ORGANIZATION, PLEASE. MOVING ON
TO LINE 35. YOUR LINE IS OPEN.
FLYING 35 YEAR LINE IS OPEN.
HELLO. YES, YOUR LINE IS OPEN.
OH I'M SORRY. POLITICS THANK
YOU, MR CHAIRMAN. MY NAME IS
MIKE BARRANCO. I'M A RESIDENT OF
IRVINE AND A FIREARMS TRAINER.
MEDICAL 13 85 84 IS INTENDED TO
INCREASE SECURITY AT GUN STORES
THAT INCLUDES THIS TIME YOU HAVE
NOBODY ELSE INTO THANK YOU. NOW
BRING IT BACK TO COMMITTEE
MEMBERS THAT DID YOU HAVE A
QUESTION? MR BRYANT? I DO. YES
THANK YOU, MR CHAIR, AND THANK
YOU, SENATOR. FOR ALL THE WORK
THAT YOU'RE DOING IN THIS SPACE.
IT COULDN'T BE MORE TIMELY AND
OBVIOUSLY YOU STARTED THIS WORK.
BEFORE THE PRESENT MOMENT.
LOOKING THROUGH THE BILL. I
THINK THERE'S A LOT OF
INCREDIBLE THINGS IN HERE. I
JUST HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. UM,
THE FIRST I HOPE YOU'RE TALKING
WITH THE DOJ. BECAUSE THERE'S A
LOT OF THINGS FOR THEM TO DO
HERE. I KNOW THE LIABILITY.
KICKS IN IN JULY 2023, BUT THE
TRAINING ISN'T SUPPOSED TO BE
COMPLETED UNTIL 2020 FOR SOME
WONDERING IF THAT IS AN
INTENTIONAL GAP, OR IF THE
TRAINING NEEDS TO BE SPED UP AND
THEN ALSO IN THE TRAINING. IT
SAYS WITH NO LESS THAN 20
QUESTIONS, AND I'M JUST CURIOUS
OF 20 WAS JUST ARBITRARY. SHOULD
WE DO 30? SHOULD WE DO 50?
SHOULD WE DO, 100? THIS IS A
REALLY IMPORTANT BUILDING. WHAT
YOU'RE DOING IS IMPORTANT. I
JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
THERE'S NO GAPS. I APPRECIATE
THOSE QUESTIONS. YOUR CLOSE
ATTENTION TO DETAIL. UM I WILL
FOLLOW UP WITH THE SPONSORS TO
GET THOSE ANSWERS. I THINK MY
BEST GUESS ON THE LIABILITY
INSURANCE GAP IS THAT WE WANT
THEM TO HAVE LIABILITY INSURANCE
FOR JUST ANY NEGLIGENCE. UM WHEN
THE STATUTE KICKS IN, WHEN THE
STATUTORY REQUIREMENT FOR
TRAINING KICKS IN, CERTAINLY,
THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER FACTOR.
RIGHT? SO IF YOU IF YOU'RE
THINKING ABOUT A CIVIL LAWSUIT
AGAINST A GUN DEALER WHO
NEGLIGENTLY ALLOWS GUNS TO BE
ILLEGALLY PURCHASED OR STOLEN.
THEY WE WANT THEM TO HAVE
LIABILITY INSURANCE FOR THAT,
BUT THEN A VIOLATION OF THE
TRAINING REQUIREMENTS WOULD BE
ANOTHER FACTOR. BUT OBVIOUSLY
THAT WOULD NOT BE TAKING EFFECT
UNTIL THE 2024 PERIOD. AND I
FORGET THERE ARE OTHER QUESTIONS
I DIDN'T ANSWER. 20 TO 30. I'D
HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT ACTUALLY
20 QUESTIONS. MAYBE WE'LL ASK 20
QUESTIONS TO GET TO THE ANSWER
THAT THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK
YOU. YES, MR SARTO. SO SENATOR
ON SOME OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF
THIS BILL, THERE'S NUMBER ONE.
WHAT IS 100% COVERAGE OF AN
INTERIOR BECAUSE WE HAVE PRETTY
GOOD COVERAGE IN HERE, BUT I CAN
TELL YOU IN THE THIRD ROW ON THE
FLOOR. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S
GOING ON OVER THERE. CAUSE WE
DON'T HAVE THAT COVERAGE. HOW DO
HOW DOES SOMEBODY ACHIEVED THAT?
AND IF THEY DON'T ACHIEVE IT,
HOW DOES PREDATORY LAWSUITS NOT
ENTER THE EQUATION FOR A
BUSINESS OWNER? I WOULD ASSUME
100% COVERAGE JUST MEANS YOU
HAVE CAMERAS THAT MIGHT HAVE A
LITTLE BIT OF OVERLAPPING
COVERAGE. UM YOU KNOW, SO
THERE'S NO BLIND SPOTS WHERE
GUNS COULD BE STOLEN OR TAKEN,
OR I MEAN, I MEAN, I ASSUME THIS
IS BASIC SURVEILLANCE PROTOCOL.
I'M NOT A SURVEILLANCE EXPERT
MYSELF. BUT I ASSUME YOU DON'T
WANT BLIND SPOTS WHEN YOU'RE
TALKING ABOUT VIDEO SURVEILLANCE
RIGHT TO GET 100% SEEMS NOT
ACHIEVABLE, WHICH OPENS UP THE
DOOR FOR RIGHT OF ACTION LOST A
SURVEILLANCE EXPERT. BUT I
ASSUME WE HAVE 100% SURVEILLANCE
IN MANY ASPECTS. I BET WHEN I GO
TO MY HOME DEPOT, FOR EXAMPLE,
THEY HAVE VIDEO CAMERAS, AND I'M
GUESSING THEY HAVE SOMETHING
THAT MAYBE 100% WHEN I GO TO THE
BANK, I'M SURE THEY HAVE 100%
YOU DON'T THINK OF BANK HAS 100%
SURVEILLANCE? THAT MIGHT BE
SOMETHING WE LOOK INTO. SO
PERHAPS WE CAN CONTAIN IT. AND
THEN ANOTHER PART. AND A GOOD
FAITH EFFORT TO CAPTURE ACTIVITY
IS THAT NOT TO CAPTURE ACTIVITY
GOING BEYOND THE BUSINESS
PROPERTY OR TO CAPTURE TO NOT
GET TO CAPTURE ACTIVITY ONLY
WITHIN THE THEIR OWN PREMISES.
THAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF THIS IN
I THINK TO THE POINT MADE BY
OPPOSITION WITNESSES. THERE WAS
SOME DISCUSSION WITH A C L U.
YOU MAY NOTE THAT HULU IS NOT
OPPOSING THIS BILL, AND THAT WAS
BECAUSE IN PART OF THE
AMENDMENTS WE TOOK. THIS IS ONE
AMENDMENT. WE TOOK THAT WOULD
MAKE JUST REQUIRE THIS GUN
DEALERS TO LIMIT COVERAGE AND
MAKE A GOOD FAITH EFFORT TO
LIMIT IT TO THEIR OWN
PROPERTIES. ALL RIGHT, THEN.
YOUR INSURANCE POLICY OF AT
LEAST $1 MILLION OVER RIDGE PER
INCIDENT OF WHAT INCIDENT WITH
THE INCIDENT. I WOULD ASSUME
THAT THAT WOULD YOU KNOW, BE
AGAIN BE STATUTORILY DEFINED. I
DON'T HAVE THE IMMEDIATE ANSWER
FOR YOU. WE CAN GET BACK TO
THAT. REMEMBER, BUT I ASSUME IT
MEANS SOMETHING. YOU HAD A GUN
STOLEN AND IT WAS USED TO KILL
SOMEONE OR HARM SOMEONE AND SOME
KIND OF LAWSUIT TOOK PLACE.
OKAY, WELL, AND THAT'S MY
CONCERN WERE WE'RE PUTTING A LOT
LOVE. VAGUE. UM. RULES ON
BUSINESSES THAT ARE ALREADY
REALLY HEAVY, REGULAR HEAVILY
REGULATED. AND IT ALMOST SEEMS
LIKE THE PREMISE OF THIS EFFORT
IS TO SECURE THE SHOPS THAT HAVE
GUNS AND I GOTTA TELL YOU I KNOW
A COUPLE OF THEM IN COMMUNITIES
THAT I SERVE, AND THEY'RE
PROBABLY THE MOST SECURE
BUILDINGS IN THE WHOLE WHOLE
CITY. SO IT'S LIKE WE'RE GOING
ABOVE AND BEYOND, IN AN EFFORT
TO MAKE THEM DO SOMETHING, BUT
IT TO ME WHEN I'M READING IS A
LOT OF THINGS THAT CREATE MORE
RIGHT OF ACTION SUITS. AND
DOESN'T NECESSARILY CONTRIBUTE
TO THE SAFETY OF OUR COMMUNITIES
. SO THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT MY
CONCERN ABOUT THIS IS THERE'S
TOO MUCH OF THAT IN THIS BILL,
AND IT'S HARD FOR ME TO SUPPORT
THAT. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
MR PARK. UM WITH REGARD TO MR
SEYARTO IS COMMENT. I THINK HE'S
RIGHT. YOU CAN'T GUARANTEE 100.
YOU KNOW THE AREA BEHIND THAT
CAMERA. THERE IS PROBABLY NOT
GOING TO BE PICKED UP BY ANY
OTHER CAMERA. SO, UM YOU MIGHT
THINK OF SOMETHING OTHER THAN
100. UM CERTAINLY YOU DON'T WANT
NUISANCE LAWSUIT? I HOPE YOU
DON'T WANT NUISANCE. NUISANCE
LAWSUITS. UM SO. JUST THINK
ABOUT THOSE DEFINITIONS. YOU'VE
GOT TIME AT. TWO BEFORE IT GETS
TO THE FLOOR, BUT DO THINK ABOUT
THAT. UM AND YOU KNOW, I'M WE
CAN AGREE. KELLY AND I THAT WE
DON'T WANT THIS TO RESULT IN
NUISANCE LAWSUITS. UM SECOND, SO
THERE WAS AN ESTIMATE OF $25,000
FOR WHAT THIS WOULD COST. FIRST
OF ALL THE LARGER SHOPS PROBABLY
HAVE MOST OF THIS ANYWAY. BUT I
AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE SMALLER
DEALER, WHICH IS I ASSUME A
MEMBER OF THE OPPOSITION IS A
SMALLER DEALER. WHAT IS YOUR
ESTIMATE? OR IF YOU DON'T HAVE
IT NOW, YOU CAN GET IT LATER.
BUT WE DISCUSSED THIS YESTERDAY
AND YOU MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE THE
ANSWER. BUT WHAT DO YOU THINK IT
COSTS TO ACHIEVE THESE THINGS? I
GUESS THE INSURANCE IS KIND OF
UP IN THE AIR UNTIL INSURANCE
COMPANY LET YOU KNOW. ORDINARILY
A MILLION DOLLARS INSURANCE
ISN'T THAT EXPENSIVE? HAVING
PURCHASED THAT MYSELF, IT WOULD
BE ABOVE AND BEYOND YOUR UM,
BUSINESS OR HOME. PROPERTY SO IT
WOULD BE AN EXCESS CASUALTY. THE
CONTRACT. USUALLY THOSE AREN'T
THAT EXPENSIVE. BUT AGAIN, I
DON'T KNOW HOW AN INSURANCE
COMPANY WOULD UNDERWRITE IT, BUT
JUST FOR THE PHYSICAL PARTS,
PARTICULARLY FOR SOMEBODY WHO'S
DEALING OUT OF THEIR HOME. AH!
DEALING OUT OF VERY SMALL
BUSINESS. THAT'S PART TIME. WHAT
IS YOUR ESTIMATE FOR WHAT IT'S
GOING TO TAKE? THANK YOU SO
MUCH, MAN. AND AS YOU ALLUDED
TO, WE DID TALK YESTERDAY ON THE
PHONE ABOUT THIS QUESTION, AND
WE HAVE ASKED OUR SPONSORS TO
LOOK INTO THIS. WE ARE ALSO
PROBABLY PUT OUT A REQUEST
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE TO LOOK
INTO THIS. ALL I CAN SAY IS, I
WOULD BE VERY SURPRISED IF THAT
COSTS END UP BEING REMOTELY
OF CLOUD COMPUTING, THE COST OF
TECHNOLOGY HAS GONE WAY DOWN.
$50 A MONTH FOR MY A D T
SECURITY SYSTEM, BY THE WAY,
GETTING THAT REDUCED MY
INSURANCE PREMIUMS, OBVIOUSLY,
HAVING MEASURES LIKE THAT
PROPHYLACTIC MEASURES MEANS THAT
YOUR INSURANCE PREMIUMS GO DOWN
BECAUSE YOU'RE SAFER AGAINST ANY
KIND OF WRONGDOING OR CRIME. UH
YOU KNOW, SO ALL I CAN SAY IS
WE'LL LOOK INTO THAT. WE BELIEVE
THE COST IS GOING TO BE
SOMETHING THAT IS MANAGEABLE.
BUT ALSO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT
COSTS, WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT
SOCIAL COSTS WHERE POLICYMAKERS
WHICH WE MEANS WE HAVE TO
CONSIDER NOT ONLY THE COSTS
ACCRUING TO GUN DEALERS, BUT WE
HAVE TO CONSIDER THE COST OF
SOCIETY EVERY TIME A GUN IS
STOLEN OR ILLEGALLY PURCHASED
THAT SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASES THE
LIKELIHOOD THAT WILL EXPERIENCE
MASSIVE SOCIAL COSTS. AND YOU
HEARD, I THINK, IN THE LAST BILL
TESTIMONY ABOUT THE EXORBITANT
COST OF GUN VIOLENCE, AND SO WHY
DO WE NOT CONSIDER THAT GUNS
UNIQUELY HAVE NEGATIVE
EXTERNALITIES ASSOCIATED WITH
THEM? WHICH MEANS THAT THE GUNS
IF A DIAMOND STOLEN, IT'S JUST A
DIAMOND GOES OUT IN THE MARKET.
IF A GUN IS STOLEN, THAT MEANS
IT'S LIKELY TO HAVE SOME KIND OF
WRONGDOING REFLECT MAJOR COSTS
ON OTHERS. IF JEWELRY SHOPS
HAVE, OKAY, I YOU HAVE TO BE
REQUIRED ANSWERED MY QUESTION.
YOU CAN'T SAY ANYTHING ELSE YOU
WANT IN YOUR CLOTHES. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. OKAY ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS OR COMMENT? YOU MAY
CLOSE. THANK YOU. CHAIR AND
THANK YOU RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE
WITH THE OPPOSITION. I THINK
THESE COSTS ARE MANAGEABLE. WE
HAVE IMPLEMENTED AND I BELIEVE
WILL GO INTO EFFECT, A
REQUIREMENT THAT THOSE WHO SELL
ALCOHOL THIS YEAR BE SUBJECT TO
TRAINING TO PREVENT ILLEGAL
SALES TO MINORS AND OTHERS. UH
THE IDEA THAT WE DON'T REQUIRE
THIS TYPE OF TRAINING FOR GUN
DEALERS, GIVEN THE MASSIVE
SOCIAL COSTS WE'RE SEEING FROM
GUN VIOLENCE. TO ME. THIS JUST
SEEMS LIKE A COMMON SENSE STEP.
I'M A LITTLE SURPRISED. WE'VE
SEEN SUCH VEHEMENT OPPOSITION.
YOU KNOW IF WE'RE GOING TO TALK
ABOUT PROTECTING PEOPLE FROM GUN
VIOLENCE. THE LEAST WE SHOULD BE
DOING IS TRYING TO SAFEGUARD OUR
GUN STORES FROM ILLEGAL
ACTIVITIES, SO I RESPECTFULLY
ASK FOR YOUR VOTE. THINK IS
THERE A MOTION TO MOVE THE BILL?
AND SO I WOULD DEFINITELY
ENCOURAGE YOU TO FOLLOW UP ON
WHAT THE WITH THE OPTION BROUGHT
UP AND THE QUESTIONS,
PARTICULARLY FROM THE COMMITTEE
MEMBERS, I THINK SOME OF THE
THINGS LIKE 100% SECURITY IT'S
ALMOST LIKE. OUR CLIMATE CHANGE
GOALS TO ASPIRATIONAL. THEY'RE
HARD. WE WANT TO MAKE THEM WE
WANT WE WANT IT DONE. I DON'T
THINK WE'RE ARGUING WHETHER OR
NOT WE SHOULD HAVE 100% COVERAGE
. BUT WHAT WHAT MAKES SENSE AND
MAYBE GET BACK TO YOUR YOUR
SUPPORTERS. THE FIND OUT WHAT
WHAT LAW ENFORCEMENT. BUT OTHERS
SAY IT'S THE BEST METHODOLOGY TO
MAKE SURE THAT THESE PLACE TO
STAY SECURE. IF YOU CAN GET THAT
BACK TO US, I THINK WE WILL.
YOU'LL HAVE MUCH SUCCESS AS WE
MOVE FORWARD. I APPRECIATE
RECOMMENDING AND I VOTE AND IF I
COULD JUST I WANTED TO SAY THAT
I AGREE WITH CONTEMPT, STARTED
TALKING AND LET'S BE A SENATE
THING. UM AND SHE'S THE PRO TEM.
SO I LET HER TALK. SO UM,
THERE'S A MEMBER BEHIND YOU.
THEY'LL TELL YOU THAT I'M THE
LAST ONE THAT SPEAKS IN PUBLIC
SAFETY. CALL HER ALL 13 84 BY
SENATOR MINDY MOTION IS DUE PASS
TO THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE
. JOAN SAWYER, JOHN SAWYER. I
LACKEY LACKEY. NO, BANTA. BANTA
BRIAN! BRIAN I WORK I WORK I
SANTIAGO. SEYARTO TOÀN ARTO NÓ.
THAT MEASURES ARE CALLED ME ONE
MORE. MOVED THE BILL. NOW SB 11
10 MELENDEZ. GOOD MORNING, MR
CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE. THANK YOU FOR GIVING
ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT MY
BILL TO THIS MORNING. I WILL
ALSO NOTE FOR YOU THAT AS I AM
TURNED OUT THIS YEAR. THIS WILL
BE THE LAST TIME. I CAN BEFORE
THIS COMMITTEE. SOME OF YOU MAY
BE VERY HAPPY ABOUT THAT. SOME
OF YOU MAY BE VERY SAD.
NONETHELESS THIS IS MY LAST
PRESENTATION, SO ENJOY IT. ALL
RIGHT. THIS IS FOR SB 11 10,
WHICH DEALS WITH THE ISSUANCE
AND RENEWAL OF WATER CALLED 602
LETTERS, WHICH IS A TRESPASS
LETTER OF AUTHORITY. IT ALLOWS
LAW ENFORCEMENT TO GO ONTO ONE'S
PROPERTY. TO REMOVE THOSE
ENGAGING IN UNLAWFUL ACTIVITY IN
THE ABSENCE OF THE PROPERTY
OWNER IN MY COUNTY, RIVERSIDE
SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT ALONE
PROCESSES BETWEEN 1215 100
TRESPASS LETTERS ANNUALLY IN MY
CITY ALONE. WE DID 332 LETTERS
JUST LAST YEAR. THE GOAL OF THIS
BILL IS JUST TO ALLEVIATE THE
INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF STAFF TIME
DEVOTED TO PROCESSING. THESE
LETTERS WERE ASKING THAT INSTEAD
OF 12 MONTHS TIMEFRAME, IT IS
EXTENDED TO THREE YEARS OF TIME
FRAME. IT'S A SIMPLE BILL, AND I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR VOTE
AND WITH ME HERE TO TESTIFY
TODAY IS SERGEANT JULIO DELEON
FROM RIVERSIDE COUNTY SHERIFF'S
DEPARTMENT AND ON THE PHONE LINE
IS WILL DO MORE COUNCIL MEMBER
JOSEPH MORABITO. THANK YOU SO
MUCH. AND I RESPECTFULLY
QUESTION I VOTE. YES. YOU HAVE A
BOTH WITNESSES OF THE TOTAL FIVE
MINUTES. GOOD MORNING. GOOD
MORNING COMMITTEE MEMBERS. MY
NAME IS JULIA DE LEON, RIVERSIDE
COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT
SERGEANT. AND ON BEHALF OF
SHERIFF BIANCO AND THE
DEPARTMENT. WE ARE PROUD SPONSOR
OF THIS BILL, AND WE REQUEST FOR
YOUR VOTE TODAY. OUR DEPARTMENT
OPERATES OUT OF 14 INDIVIDUAL
PATROL PATROL STATIONS. AND
PROVIDES POLICE SERVICES TO 16
CONTRACT CITIES THROUGHOUT THE
COUNTY. AS YOU HEARD FROM THE
SENATOR. OUR DEPARTMENT
PROCESSES BETWEEN 1215 100 OF
THESE TRESPASSED LETTERS
ANNUALLY. MORE SPECIFICALLY ARE
LARGER STATION TO VALLEY STATION
PROCESS 473 OF THESE LETTERS
LAST YEAR ALONE. AND THE LAKE
ELSINORE STATION. WHERE THE
SENATORS FROM, UM, PROCESS 332
LETTERS LAST YEAR. WE ARE ON
TRACK THIS YEAR TO PROCESS THE
SAME AMOUNT OF LETTERS. WE
ESTIMATE THAT OUR EMPLOYEES
OVERSEEING THE LETTERS AT EACH
STATION GENERALLY COMMUNITY
SERVICES OFFICER. SPENDS
APPROXIMATELY 20 TO 30% OF HIS
OR HER TIME ANNUALLY PROCESSING
FILING, MAINTAINING AND
DISTRIBUTING THESE LETTERS TO
OUR PATROL STAFF. UM AND ALSO
TIME SPENT PURGING THESE LETTERS
ANNUALLY. THESE AMENDMENTS. WILL
RELIEVE BUSINESS AND PROPERTY
OWNERS OF THE BURDENS OF
RENEWING THESE REQUESTS ANNUALLY
. THEY WILL ALSO REDUCE THE
NUMBER OF HOURS OUR EMPLOYEES
SPEND. UM AND RENEWING AND
MAINTAINING ACCEPTING THESE
LETTERS. IT ALSO PROVIDES SOME
SAFEGUARDS BY PROVIDING
REQUIRING THESE LETTERS TO BE IN
WRITING AND ALSO TO BE
NOTARIZED. UM THIS BILL DOES NOT
ADD ANY SENTENCING ENHANCEMENTS
DOES NOT ADD ANY NEW CRIMES TO
THE BOOKS DOES NOT INCREASE THE
AUTHORITY OF LAW ENFORCEMENT TO
ENFORCE TRASH. THAT'S LAWS. ON
PRIVATE PROPERTY, IT MERELY
EXTENDS MERELY EXTENDS THE TIME.
FOR RENEWAL, WHICH IN TURN
REDUCES THE HOURS SPENT BY OUR
PERSONNEL. TO PROCESS THESE
LETTERS. SO WITH THOSE COMMENTS,
UM WE ARE IN SUPPORT OF THIS
BILL AND REQUEST YOUR EYEBALLS.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU GO TO THE
PHONE LINE OR DOING OTHER
WITNESS. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME
IS JOSEPH MORABITO MAYOR PROTEM
CITY OF WILL TOMORROW. THANK YOU
FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK IN
FAVOR OF SB 11 10. IN MY SHORT
TIME ON THE WILLIAM OUR CITY
COUNCIL HAVE REPEATEDLY SEEN LAW
ENFORCEMENT HAMPERED BY AN
EXPIRED, NO TRESPASSING LETTER.
KNOWN AS THE SIX OF TWO LETTERS
I WAS SURPRISED WHEN I LEARNED
THAT THEY EXPIRED AFTER THE
BRIEF DURATION OF ASINGLE YEAR.
AN INCREASE IN TIME BETWEEN
RENEWALS WOULD BE VERY
BENEFICIAL NOT ONLY TO THE
RESIDENTS, BUSINESSES OR
LANDOWNERS, BUT ALSO TO OUR
POLICE AGENCIES. AS THEY WOULD
BE RELIEVED OF DUPLICATE EFFORTS
OF REPEATEDLY UPDATING
PAPERWORK. IN CLOSING, I WOULD
LIKE TO HAVE YOU IMAGINED THE
UNNECESSARY BURDEN OF HAVING TO
RENEW OUR DRIVER'S LICENSES OR
PASSPORTS ON A YEARLY BASIS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION
OF EXTENDING THE AMOUNT OF TIME
THAT SETS OF TWO LETTERS STATE
VALID AND ENFORCEABLE. THANK YOU
ANY WITNESSES IN THE ROOM AND
SUPPORT WHEN I GO TO THE PHONE
LINES, WITNESSES IN SUPPORT 18 T
OPERATOR. SB 11 10, MELINDA'S.
YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN
SUPPORT. PLEASE PRESS 10 AT THIS
TIME. FOR TWO COMMENT COMES FROM
LINE 59, PLEASE GO AHEAD. HOW
MUCH SURE ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA STATE SHIRTS
ASSOCIATION AND SUPPORT OF
SENATE BILL 11 10. THANK YOU.
NEXT IS LINE 60, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. MR CHAIR MEMBERS BRANDON
UP ON BEHALF OF THE LOS ANGELES
COUNTY SHERIFF AND SUPPORT YOU
VERY MUCH. MR CHAIR AT THIS TIME
WE HAVE NOBODY ELSE. THANK YOU.
AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO WITNESSES
AND OPPOSITION. THE NUN IN THE
ROOM. WILL GO. TO LIE. ANY
WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION. ONCE
AGAIN. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO
SPEAK AT OPPOSITION, YOU CAN
PRESS 10 AT THIS TIME. CURRENTLY
WE HAVE NOBODY QUEUING UP. THANK
YOU FOR BRINGING BACK THE
COMMITTEE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. MR
BRYANT. I DESPERATELY WANTED TO
FIND SOMETHING I DIDN'T LIKE IN
THIS BILL. SO I COULD BE ONE FOR
ONE ON THIS MEETING IN PUBLIC
SAFETY, BUT I THINK YOU YOU'VE
DONE A LOT OF WORK HERE AND
CLEARLY WORKED THROUGH A LOT OF
CONCERNS AND I WILL BE
SUPPORTING TODAY. THE OTHERS SEE
NONE. YEAH. I WANT TO COMMEND
YOU FOR FINISHING WITH THE WIND.
HERE WITH THIS COMMITTEE. HEAVEN
KNOWS IT'S JUST A DIFFICULT
COMMITTEE. TAKE YOUR CHAMBER IS
EVEN MORE DIFFICULT PUBLIC
SAFETY ON YOUR SIDE. BUT
NONETHELESS, THIS REALLY DOES
ADDRESS THE SILLY REQUIREMENT.
THAT WILL REDUCE UNNECESSARY
OBLIGATION. I MEAN, I THINK.
ANYBODY WITH ANY SENSE OF
OBJECTIVITY WOULD SEE THAT THIS
IS A HELPFUL MEASURE. SO
CONGRATULATIONS AND WE'LL MISS
YOU. THANK YOU ANYTHING ELSE?
YOU MAY CLOSE. WELL, THANK YOU,
MR CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE AND THANK YOU, SAMUEL.
MEMBER BRIAN FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
THIS BILL REALLY HELPS
EVERYBODY'S CONSTITUENTS YOU
KNOW, IN IN EACH DISTRICT, SO I
WILL KEEP THIS BRIEF. I KNOW YOU
HAVE OTHER BILLS, AND I WOULD
JUST RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR
VOTE AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR RAPT
ATTENTION THIS MORNING, MR
CHAIRMAN. AS SOMEONE THAT CAME
IN WITH YOU. WE CAME IN
TOGETHER. FRESHMAN UM I FINALLY
GET TO SAY AS CHAIRMAN OF THE
PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE. I AM
RECOMMENDING, AND I TO A
MELINDA'S BILL. GREAT WAY TO GO
OUT RIGHT DOWN THAT DATE.
CULTURAL. ON SENATE BILL 11 10
BY SENATOR MELENDEZ. THE MOTION
IS DUE PASS. JOAN SAWYER YOUR
EYE LACKEY LACKEY. I BONTA BANTA
I BRIAN! BRIAN, I WORK. I AND
I'VE REALLY ENJOYED OUR TIME
TOGETHER. WORK I SANTIAGO
SEYARTO TOÀN JUST KIDDING. I
SEYARTO AYE. THAT MEASURE
PASSES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE 43
AUTHORS. BECKER. KAMLAGER. AND
EARLIER.
SENATORS COME AS SOON AS
POSSIBLE. WE HAVE SOME TIME
CONSTRAINTS. WITH SOME MEMBERS
AND. DON'T WANT TO LOSE A VOTE.
HMM.
I WILL NOW DO THE CONSENT
CALENDAR. SHE WAS ON THE
COMPUTER. NO, HE DID IT. HE WAS
HERE ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
BANTA ON TÔI.
SENATOR BECKER HAVE A SEAT.
WELCOME TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY
COMMITTEE. TO BE HERE. SB 11 17
BECKER STATE PUBLIC DEFENDER
GRANTS GOOD MORNING, MR CHAIR
AND MEMBERS OF THE BILL. SECOND
ALL RIGHT. WELL THIS WILL PERMIT
THE OFFICE OF STATE PUBLIC
DEFENDERS TO ENGAGE IN GRANT
MAKING SURE THEY RECEIVE FUNDING
HAVE BEEN CRITICAL RESOURCES AND
ELEVATING INNOVATIVE PRACTICE IN
OUR PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICES
ACROSS THE STATE. THERE'S NO
OPPOSITION. WE'RE WORKING WITH
THE SPD AND BE SCC ON THIS WORK
. AND TODAY WITH US WE HAVE
LESLIE CALDWELL HOUSTON FROM C P
T. A AS WELL AS MAYOR MCCOMB
WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR TECHNICAL
QUESTIONS SHOULD THEY ARISE.
THANK YOU OPEN UP THE LINES TO
MISS HOUSTON. MORNING GOOD
MORNING CHAIR JONES, SAWYER AND
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. MY NAME IS
LESLIE CALDWELL, HOUSTON. I'M A
RETIRED PUBLIC DEFENDER, CHIEF
DEFENDER OF SOLANO COUNTY AND A
MEMBER OF THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC
DEFENDERS ASSOCIATION. AND
SPEAKING YOU TO YOU TODAY AND
STRONG SUPPORT OF SB 11 17 ON
BEHALF OF CPD, A. AND THERE'S A
FORMER PUBLIC DEFENDER, HAVING
RUN A MEDIUM SIZED PUBLIC
DEFENDER'S OFFICE OF
APPROXIMATELY 100 EMPLOYEES. AND
THE 11 17 WOULD AUTHORIZE THE
STATE PUBLIC DEFENDER, THE SPD
TO AWARD AND ADMINISTER GRANTS
TO IMPROVE INDIGENT DEFENSE
SERVICES. CURRENTLY MOST
INDIGENT DEFENSE GRANT ARE
ADMINISTERED BY THE BOARD OF
STATE AND COMMUNITY CORRECTIONS.
THE DSG C B. FTC HAS MANY
RESPONSIBILITIES, INCLUDING MANY
STATE GRANT. THE OFFICE OF THE
STATE PUBLIC DEFENDERS RECENTLY
CREATED AN INDIGENT IMPROVEMENT
DIVISION THAT HAS EXPERTISE IN
WORKING WITH INDIGENT DEFENSE
ORGANIZATIONS IN OUR STATE. AND
UNDERSTANDS HOW GRANT MONEY
WOULD BE MOST BENEFICIAL TO THE
CLIENT. SERVED BY PUBLIC
DEFENDERS AND APPOINTED COUNSEL.
INDIGENT DEFENSE NEEDS ARE VERY
DIFFERENT THROUGHOUT THE 58
COUNTIES OF CALIFORNIA. FROM
URBAN TO WORLD POPULATED TOO
HEAVILY POPULATED. OH SPD IS
UNIQUELY SITUATED TO AWARD
GRANTS TO THESE DIFFERENT
AGENCIES FOR THE IMPROVEMENT OF
INDIGENT DEFENSE FOR ALL OF OUR
COMMUNITIES. AS THE DIRECTOR OF
A MEDIUM SITE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S
OFFICE. I STRUGGLED MIGHTILY
OVER THE YEARS TO GET THE%
FUNDING I NEEDED TO SERVE OUR
CLIENT. I WOULD SUMMARILY
DISMISSED MANY TIMES BY THE
COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. WHEN I
ASKED FOR THE MONEY I NEEDED TO
ADEQUATELY SERVE OUR CITIZENS.
THE FACT THAT THE LEGISLATURE
AND THE GOVERNOR'S SON IN NEED
AND ADDRESSED IT OVER THE LAST
FEW YEARS. WAS QUITE CERTAINLY A
LIFESAVER. FOR MANY. NOW IT'S
THE TIME TO ENSURE THAT THOSE
PRECIOUS FUNDS ARE KNOWLEDGEABLY
AND EFFICIENTLY DISPERSED.
DISTRIBUTED BY AN AGENCY WITH
THE EXPERTISE TO MAKE SURE
LITTLE GOES TO ADMINISTRATION,
AND MOST OF THE MONEY GOES TO
THE INDIGENT DEFENSE SERVICES.
THEY'RE THE MOST IN NEED AND THE
BEST ABLE TO ASSIST HER
COMMUNITIES. BY AUTHORIZING
STATE PUBLIC DEFENDER TO
DIRECTLY ADMINISTER THE GRANTS.
THE PROCESS BY WHICH GRANT MONEY
IS DIRECTED AND OVERSEEN, WILL
BE MORE STREAMLINED AND GET TO
THE RECIPIENTS OF THE GRANTS
FASTER. FOR THESE REASONS ON
BEHALF OF CPD, A URGE YOUR I
VOTE ON SB 11 17. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU AREN'T ANY OTHER
WITNESSES IN THE ROOM AND
SUPPORT CNN WILL GO TO THE PHONE
LINES, WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU
WOULD LIKE PRESSED WHEN THEN.
ZERO GOING TO START WITH FLYING
20 AIRLINE IS OPEN. PLEASE GO
AHEAD. GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIR AND
MEMBERS. THIS IS REBECCA
GONZALEZ WITH THE NATIONAL
ASSOCIATION OF SOCIAL WORKERS,
CALIFORNIA CHAPTER AND WE ARE IN
SUPPORT. WE'RE NEXT TO GO TO
LINE SEVEN. PLEASE GO AHEAD.
HARD LINE. 11, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
GOOD MORNING, MARCO GEORGE ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC
DEFENDERS ASSOCIATION AND STRONG
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. NEXT WE WILL
GO TO LUNCH. 62, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. GOOD MORNING TURNED
MEMBERS, GREGORY SAID. I WAS
INITIATE JUSTICE. STRONG
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. MR CHAIR
THIS TIME WE HAVE NOBODY ELSE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ARE THERE
ANY WITNESSES THAN OPPOSITION.
SEEING NONE. TO THE REFORM
LINES, WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION. 3 11 17. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO
BE SPEAKING OUT POSITION, PRESS
10. HER CHAIR AT THIS TIME, WE
HAVE NOBODY QUEUING UP. SHE
SAID. THERE'S NO. SER AT THIS
TIME WE HAVE NOBODY QUEUING UP.
OKAY, THANK YOU. I WOULD NOW
BRING IT BACK TO COMMITTEE FOR
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENT. WE
BOTH WAYS AND NONE. YOU MAY
CLOSE, MR. BECKER RESPECTFULLY
ASKED FOR AND I VOTE RECOMMENDED
I VOTE CALL THE ROLL. ON SB 11
17 BY SENATOR BECKER. THE MOTION
IS DUE PASSED THE APPROPRIATIONS
COMMITTEE JOHN SAWYER, JOHN
SAWYER. I LACKEY, A LACKEY
ABSTAIN. BANTA I BRIAN. BRIAN I
WORK QUIRK-SILVA THIAGO
SANTIAGO. I SEE ARTO. THAT
MEASURE PATH. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU.
WE'RE NOW DOWN TO OUR LAST TWO
COMMON LAGER AND WIENER.
SEE? AH. SENATOR KAMLAGER. HOW
ARE YOU? 11-3 NINE. FABULOUS.
PRISON MORNING, MR CHAIR.
REMEMBERS. I'M HERE TODAY TO
PRESENT SB 11 39 WITH SIX TO
IMPLEMENT A FORMAT OF GUIDED
STEPS. AND TOOLS TO AFFORD
INCARCERATED PEOPLE AND THEIR
FAMILIES. HUMANE HEALTHCARE
PROCESS. I WANT TO THANK THE
COMMITTEE AND ITS CONSULTANTS
FOR THEIR WORK ON THIS BILL AND
I WILL BE ACCEPTING THAT
PROPOSED AMENDMENTS SO CURRENTLY
CDCR WILL ALLOW A DESIGNATED
PERSON TO SIGN A MEDICAL RELEASE
FORM TO RELEASE TO RECEIVE AN
INCARCERATED PERSONS MEDICAL
INFORMATION. BUT UNFORTUNATELY,
MANY FAMILIES REPORT NOT BEING
MADE AWARE OF THIS PROCESS UNTIL
IT'S TOO LATE. LEAVING PEOPLE
BLIND TO THEIR LOVED ONES.
HEALTHCARE STATUS AS A RESULT,
INCARCERATED PEOPLE MAY SUFFER
FROM ILLNESS AND PASS AWAY ALONE
WITH FAMILY MEMBERS NOT BEING
NOTIFIED FOR DAYS. HUNDREDS OF
INCARCERATED PEOPLE HAVE DIED
THROUGHOUT THE PANDEMIC. MANY
DIED ALONE. NO FAMILY MEMBERS
WERE PRESENT OR NOTIFIED TO BE A
COMFORT TO THEM IN THEIR TIME OF
NEED. UNFORTUNATELY ALL OF US
HERE KNOW THAT FOR INCARCERATED
PEOPLE, THIS TYPE OF TREATMENT
DURING MEDICAL EMERGENCIES IS
NOT LIMITED TO THE PANDEMIC
INCARCERATED PEOPLE IN THEIR
LOVED ONES HAVE SUFFERED. THIS
WAY FOR YEARS. INCARCERATED MEN
AND WOMEN WHO ENDURE MEDICAL
EMERGENCIES AND EVEN SLOW DEATHS
SUFFER OR PASS AWAY ALONE. MORE
OFTEN THAN NOT. AMONG OTHER
THINGS, SP 11 39 MANDATES THAT
CDCR REMOVE ALL FEES FOR
INCARCERATED PEOPLE REQUESTING
MEDICAL RECORDS TO NOTIFY THOSE
LISTED ON CERTAIN MEDICAL
RELEASE FORMS OF THEIR
INCARCERATED CONTACT WITHIN 24
HOURS OF THE PERSON EXPERIENCING
A MEDICAL EMERGENCY. EXPEDITE
THE CURRENT MEDICAL GRIEVANCE
PROCESS FOR INCARCERATED PERSON.
REMOVE THE VISITOR CLEARANCE
PROCESS FOR UP TO FOUR VISITORS.
WHEN INCARCERATED PERSON IS AN
EMINENT DANGER OF PASSING AWAY.
AND DESIGNATINGA PHONE LINE FOR
PEOPLE ON THE OUTSIDE TO CALL
INTO AN INSTITUTION TO GIVE
NOTICE OF MEDICAL EMERGENCIES
RELATED TO FAMILY MEMBERS OF THE
INCARCERATED PERSON. SB 11 39
WILL AFFORD INCARCERATED PEOPLE
IN THEIR FAMILIES, A HUMANE
HEALTHCARE PROCESS INFUSED WITH
THE DIGNITY THAT THEY AND THEIR
LOVED ONES DESERVE WITH ME HERE
IN SUPPORT. IS MONEY A HILL,
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE D HILL
FOUNDATION, AND ELISSA MORE A
FELLOW AT LEGAL SERVICES FOR
PRISONERS AND CHILDREN, AND AT
THE APPROPRIATE TIME, I WOULD
RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR I VOTE.
THANK YOU. WE HAVE FIVE MINUTES
BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU. HELLO,
EVERYONE. THANK YOU FOR HAVING
ME MY NAME IS MONICA HILL ON THE
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE HILL
FOUNDATION, ALONG WITH MY
HUSBAND, DEREK HILL, WHO IS
INCARCERATED SERVING LIFE
WITHOUT THE POSSIBILITY. PAROLE
WE ARE PROUD COAST BOUNCERS FOR
SP 11 39. I'M HERE TO SHARE MY
STORY ON WHY SB 11 39 IS
IMPORTANT TO ME. MY HUSBAND GOT
EXTREMELY ILL AT THE END OF
APRIL 2021. HE REQUESTED
NUMEROUS TIMES TO BE SEEN. HE
HAD SHORTNESS OF BREATH, BRUCE
SIDE I COULDN'T EAT. THEY
IGNORED HIM. NURSE TOLD HIM THAT
HE'S NOT DRINKING ENOUGH WATER.
NO TESTS WERE DONE NO TREATMENT
AT ALL FOR HER TO COME WITH THAT
CONCLUSION. HE WAS SENT BACK TO
HIS CELL. THIS HAPPENED TO MY
HUSBAND THREE TIMES. FINALLY I
COULDN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE. I WAS
FURIOUS AND SCARED BECAUSE I
KNEW SOMETHING WAS WRONG WITH MY
HUSBAND. HE WASN'T HIMSELF AND
COULD TELL THAT HE WAS IN A LOT
OF PAIN. MONDAY MADE A 3RD 2021
. I CALL THE PRISON AND LEFT
MESSAGES. NO RESPONSE. I EMAILED
THE BUSSMANN. I EMAILED THE
PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER.
FAMILY AFTER RECEIVING OUR
RESPONSE, I HAD TO ADVOCATE FOR
MY HUSBAND ON MY OWN. I AM OTHER
WARDEN AND THE LEGISLATIVE
MEMBERS IN THE PRISON DISTRICT.
THIS ADVOCACY LED TO MY HUSBAND
GETTING MEDICAL TREATMENT. I
IMMEDIATELY GOT A PHONE CALL
FROM THE PRISON THAT MY HUSBAND
WAS BEING TAKEN TO THE HOSPITAL
ON THE PRISON GROUNDS SHORTLY
AFTER HE WAS ARRESTED TO AN
OUTSIDE HOSPITAL. A DAY. GO BY.
I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING. NOT
KNOWING IF MY HUSBAND IS OKAY OR
EVEN ALIVE. I LEFT MESSAGES ON A
DESIGNATED MEDICAL PHONE LINE
NUMEROUS TIMES. FINALLY ON MAY
THE 5TH 2021. I GOT A PHONE CALL
FROM THE DOCTOR SAYING MY
HUSBAND HAS PNEUMONIA IN HIS
LEFT LUNG. RIGHT KIDNEY FAILURE
, BLOOD CLOT IN HIS KIDNEY AND A
FAITH A FEVER. THEY CANNOT BREAK
AND THAT THEY'RE STILL RUNNING
TESTS ON HIM. DAYS AND OUR WEEKS
GO BY, AND HIS FAVORITE IS STILL
UNCONTROLLABLE. AFTER SEVERAL
WEEKS, THEY CONCLUDED THAT HE
HAD LUPUS. THE PRESENT FAILED TO
LET MY HUSBAND KNOW HIS
DIAGNOSED. THEY TESTED HIM IN
2019, AND HE WAS NEVER NOTIFIED
THAT THE RESULTS SHOW THAT HE
HAS LUPUS. SO HE WENT FROM 2000
AND 19. TO 2021 WITHOUT LUPUS
MEDICATION, COMPLETE MEDICAL
NEGLECT. HIS LUPUS HAS FLARED
UP. HIS LUPUS HAVE FLARED UP,
CAUSING OBVIOUS ISSUES. HE ALSO
HAD COVID 19 MONTHS BEFORE THAT,
CDCR FAILED TO CHART ON HIS
MEDICAL RECORD. MY HUSBAND WAS
IN THE HOSPITAL FOR THREE MONTHS
IN TOTAL. IT WAS HELL NOT BEING
ABLE TO TALK TO MY HUSBAND. NO
CONTACT WITH HIM, NOT HEARING
HIS VOICE, NOT BEING ABLE TO SIT
NEXT TO MY HUSBAND WHILE HE LAID
IN THE HOSPITAL BED. THIS IS WHY
SB 11 39 IS NEEDED. WHEN OUR
LOVED ONES ARE SICK AND THEN IN%
THE HOSPITAL, THEY CAN HAVE
SOMEONE TO HAVE BY THEIR SIDE
AND THE FAMILY MEMBER TO BE
NOTIFIED IN A TIMELY MANNER. IT
ALSO ALSO WILL REMOVE FEES FROM
REQUESTING THEIR MEDICAL RECORDS
. WE WERE CHARGED 100 AND $50
WHEN WE REQUESTED HIS RECORDS. I
URGE YOU ALL TO PLEASE PLEASE
SUPPORT FB 11 39 I THANK YOU ALL
FOR YOUR TIME. HAVE A BLESSED
DAY. THANK YOU. NEXT. HOLD THE
MIC. SO WE CAN HEAR YOU. GOOD
MORNING MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC
SAFETY COMMITTEE. MY NAME IS
ALYSSA MORE I SERVE AS THE 2022
ELDER FREEMAN POLICY FELLOW AT
LEGAL SERVICES FOR PRISONERS
WITH CHILDREN, AND I'M ALSO A
PROUD MEMBER OF ALL OF US OR
NOT. I'M FORMERLY INCARCERATED.
I SERVED 23 YEARS AT WOMEN'S
PRISONS IN CALIFORNIA FROM THE
AGE OF 17 TO JUST PAST 40. I
WANT TO ASK FOR YOUR VOTE FOR
SUITABLE 11 39 COVID. EXCUSE ME,
HAS ONLY EXACERBATED THE MEDICAL
SITUATION IN CALIFORNIA PRISONS.
HUMAN BEINGS ARE LANGUISHING AND
ISOLATED UNITS WITHIN OUR PRISON
SYSTEM ON THIS VERY DAY.WHO ARE
EXPERIENCING END OF LIFE
SCENARIOS. THEY'RE ALONE.
THEY'RE AFRAID AND THEY'RE
CONFUSED. I MYSELF HAD COVID
WHOA! INCARCERATED. S ARE THERE
NEXT TO KIN. CONFUSED SUCH AS
THE MOTHERS, FATHERS, BROTHERS,
SISTERS WIVES. FEELING HELPLESS
AS THEY. AS WELL AS DESPERATELY
SEEKING THE CLOSURE. INDIGNITY
OF SITTING BY THE BEDSIDE OF
THEIR LOVED ONE AS THEY PASS. SO
I LOVED ONES HAVE SOMEONE TO
REACH OUT TO BEFORE THEIR LAST
BREATH. I ADVOCATE TO WAIVE THE
COST OF MEDICAL RECORDS FOR
PRISONERS. IT IS A FINANCIAL
BURDEN ON INCARCERATED
INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE ALREADY NOT
BEING COMPENSATED FOR THE LABOR
OR THEIR FAMILIES WHO ARE
STRUGGLING TO MAKE ENDS MEET,
DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF MEDICAL
ISSUE IN THE LENGTH. OF TIME
SERVED. SOME RECORDS ARE VERY
LONG PERSONALLY DUE TO THE
VOLUME OF MY MEDICAL RECORD. I
CANNOT AFFORD TO HAVE IT
PRINTED. IT MIGHT COST UP TO
$1000, IF NOT MORE. SO THIS
EXPENSE WOULD FALL TO MY FAMILY,
AND THEY WOULD BEAR IT.
ADDITIONALLY IT IS OUR
CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTTO THE
APPEALS PROCESS AND TO APPEAL
ANY ACTION ADVERSE TO IT. TO US
IF AN APPEAL WITHIN CDCR
REQUIRES MEDICAL RECORDS
CHARGING FOR THAT RECORD HAS AND
DOES IMPEDE THE APPEAL PROCESS
AND THEREFORE THE RIGHT SIMPLY
BECAUSE SOMEONE IS INDIGENT AT
THE VERY LEAST, FILING FOR AN
INDIGENT FEE WAIVER UNREASONABLY
PROLONGS THE PROCESS PREGNANT
PRAGMATICALLY. IT COSTS MOSTLY
FAMILIES OF COLORS, MONEY THEY
DO NOT HAVE. LASTLY, I IMPLORE
THE LEGISLATURE TO SUPPORT THIS
BILL BECAUSE IT IS IMPERATIVE
THAT A PHONE LINE SPECIFICALLY
BE DEVOTED TO NOTIFYING US ON
THE INSIDE OF FAMILY MEMBERS,
HEALTH EMERGENCIES. THE CURRENT
PROCESS LEAVES TOO MUCH UP TO
STAFF DISCRETION, RESULTING IN
PRECIOUS TIME BEING LOST. IN
CLOSING SENATE BILL 11 39 WOULD
BRING SOME HUMANITY TO OUR
CALIFORNIA PRISON SYSTEM. AND TO
OUR LOVED ONES ON THE OUTSIDE. I
ASKED THE YOU SUPPORT THE BILL
TODAY ARE PEOPLE ARE ALREADY
SERVING TIME. THEY SHOULD NOT
DIE ALONE. PLEASE JOIN ME. AND
REMEMBERING SOME OF THE RIEMANN
, WHO HAVE RECENTLY DIED ALONE
IN THE CALIFORNIA PRISON SYSTEM
DUE TO COVID RESTRICTIONS.
PEACHES, LANGSTON ANGEL KAZI
YAK. MADONNA WATSON. TIFFANY
JACKSON AND MICHELLE KING. THANK
YOU. OR ANY WITNESSES IN THE
ROOM AND SUPPORT. COME TO THE
MICROPHONE, NAME AND
ORGANIZATION ONLY NAME AND
ORGANIZATION. IVANA GONZALEZ
LEGAL SERVICES FOR PRISONERS
WITH CHILDREN ALL OFFICER NONE
OF THE COALITION FOR FAMILY
UNITY. THANK YOU. HI I'M ABBY
SALIM, CO FOUNDER OF IMPAIRING
WOMEN IMPACTED BY INCARCERATION
. ALSO IN SUPPORT IS JESSE'S
PLACE AND PRIDE AND TRUTH AND I
ALSO ASK YOUR PERMISSION TO READ
OFF THE MEAT, CHOOSE AND
SUPPORT. YES. GO AHEAD. OKAY WE
HAVE QUITE A FEW. SO IT'S GOING
TO BE A MICHELLE. CALL ISTAN
THERON, IMO AGUILAR, RAFAELA
HERNANDEZ. WE HAVE GIL SYLLABUS
. JENNIFER DEGRASSI, AARON SMITH
, GRACE CAMPBELL, ALEX NORTH
GRACE NORTH ELIZABETH HAYES
TERESA JOBS. BLANCA ANDRADE,
NANCY SYLLABUS NANCY HERNANDEZ
JENSEN. EVEN CHAVEZ, ANDREA
KREIDER CARRY OUR ZETA CHANDRA
JEFFERSON ANDREA VILLA. ROSS
KEISHA ERICA PANEL FLOOR.
MONIQUE FLINTSHIRE DAVIS, TRAVIS
SCOTT TRACY BOURBON, YVETTE
LOONS, EVEY MARTINEZ, RACHEL
GÓMEZ, EBONY MORRIS, ESTELLA
PLOUAY. GINA PARK, TANYA ZAMORA
, GINA PARK, ELSA SILVA, RHONDA
SMITH. SYLVIA CORD ORTEZ,
MELANIE ROBLES. LUNA MAZZETTI.
ANDREA MARTINEZ, FABIOLA
GONZALEZ, LUNA, DIANA, ROBERT.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU. HELLO
HELLO ANYMORE. GUILLOT HERE ON
BEHALF OF LEGAL SERVICES FOR
PRISONERS OR CHILDREN, AND ALL
OF US ARE DONE. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. MARVIN CALLED AMOS LEGAL
SERVICES FOR PRISONERS WITH
CHILDREN. HELLO ANGELIQUE EVANS
WITH YOUNG WOMEN'S FREEDOM
CENTER, SISTER WARRIOR FREEDOM
COALITION, AND ALL OF US ARE
KNOWN IN STRONG SUPPORT. THANK
YOU. PARTIES WITH ALL OF US,
HUNAN SACRAMENTO CHAPTER AND
STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU. AND
THEN WE'LL GO TO THE PHONE
LINES, WITNESSES AND SUPPORT 18
T OPERATOR TO OPEN UP WITNESSES
AND SUPPORT OF. UH 11 39 CAN
PRESS 0.0 AT THIS TIME. FIRST
LINE IS BLANK 20, PLEASE GO
GONZALES. SO THE NATIONAL
ASSOCIATION OF SOCIAL WORKERS
CALIFORNIA CHAPTER IN SUPPORT OF
SB 11 39. NEXT IS LINE 70,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD MORNING.
THIS IS JIM LINDBERG ON BEHALF
OF THE FRIENDS COMMITTEE ON
LEGISLATION OF CALIFORNIA IN
SUPPORT OF THIS VERY IMPORTANT
THANK YOU. NEXT IS LINE 11,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. MARK OUT GEORGE
ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
PUBLIC DEFENDERS ASSOCIATION,
AND STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
NEXT IS LINE 69. PLEASE GO
AHEAD. CAN A MATHEWS AND A
POLICY INTERN AT THE WESTERN
CENTRAL ON POVERTY AND WE STAND
IN SUPPORT OF THIS FILM. THANK
YOU. NEXT IS LINE 67, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. HI MY NAME'S TAYLOR AND
I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF
PRISONS FROM THE INSIDE OUT INK
, THE SPONSOR OF THE 11 39, AND
WE STAND IN STRONG SUPPORT.
LINE. 24 IS NEXT. YOUR LINE IS
OPEN. HI THIS IS OLIVIA CAMPBELL
IN STRONG SUPPORT OF SB 11 39.
THANK YOU. LINE 62. YOUR LINE IS
OPEN. GOOD MORNING CHAIR AND
MEMBERS. GREGORY FIDDLE WITH
INITIATE JUSTICE. STRONG
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE
LINES. 43 YEAR LINE IS OPEN.
THIS IS SAN CHOSE WATERS FROM
PLACE ORGANIZATION AND STRONG
SUPPORT OF SB 11 39 75,000
PEOPLE INCARCERATED WITH COVID
254 DIET. ANNEXES LINE. 18,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. LINE 18 YEAR
LINE IS OPEN. HI THIS IS KARI
ARE ZOTTI WITH CDCR FAMILY
SUPPORT STATEWIDE AND I STRONGLY
SUPPORT AS THE 11 39 AND THINK
ALL THE SPONSORS THANK YOU.
CHAIR. NEXT. WE HAVE LENGTH 76
YEAR LINE IS OPEN. GOOD MORNING
CHAIR AND CHAIR MEMBERS. MY NAME
IS ALEXIS BANDA FROM JESSIE'S
PLACE ORGANIZATION, AND I AM A
STRONG SUPPORT OF SB 11 39.
THANK YOU. NEXT. WE HAVE LINES
71. YOUR LINE IS OPEN. MY NAME
IS MARIA. I CAN CALL IT IS GOOD
MORNING. I'M IN STRONG SUPPORT
OF SB 11 39 FROM INITIATE
JUSTICE. THE NEXT LINE IS 70 OR
I'M SORRY. THE NEXT LINE IS 68.
PLEASE GO AHEAD. AGAIN WITH THE
JUSTICE GROUP AND SUPPORT. AND
THE NEXT LINE IS LINE 77, PLEASE
GO AHEAD. HI THIS IS CHRISTINA
ROBINSON AND I AM CALLING ON
BEHALF OF LEGAL SERVICES FOR
PRISONERS AND CHILDREN AND
COMMUNITY KILLERS. AND AS
PROBABLY SPONSORS AND SUPPORT OF
SB 11 39. THANK YOU. AND AT THIS
TIME, MR CHAIR WE HAVE NOBODY
ELSE. THANK YOU. OKAY THANK YOU.
NOW, WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION.
SEEING NONE IN THE ROOM WILL GO
TO THE PHONE LINES, WITNESSES
AND OPPOSITION. 18, THE
OPERATOR. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN,
IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK IN
OPPOSITION, PLEASE PRESS 10 AT
THIS TIME. WE HAVE A LINE 72,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. NO. AND 72.
YOUR LINE IS OPEN. AT THIS TIME
WE HAVE NOBODY ELSE IN
OPPOSITION, BRING IT BACK TO
COMMITTEE. I'M GLAD THERE'S
NOBODY IN OPPOSITION BECAUSE
THIS IS AN INCREDIBLY GOOD BILL.
AH! AND ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE IN
THE LEGISLATOR WHO HAS A MONTHLY
J PAY BILL. AH! I HAVE A FAMILY
MEMBER WHO WAS INCARCERATED
DURING THE PANDEMIC. AND THE
IDEA THAT HE COULD HAVE LOST HIS
LIFE WILL BECOME CRITICALLY ILL
AND NOT BEING ABLE TO REACH OUT.
BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE COST HIM
MONEY OR I WOULD HAVE BEEN
UNABLE TO VISIT HIM. AND THE
IDEA THAT YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR
MEDICAL RECORDS. IT'S
UNCONSCIONABLE, SO I WANT TO
THANK THE SENATOR FOR BRINGING
THIS GOOD BILL FORD AND YOU
DEFINITELY HAVE MY SUPPORT
TODAY. THANK YOU. SEEN THE OTHER
VIEW. MAKE CLOTHES. YOU KNOW, I
JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THIS IS A
COMMON SENSE BILL. IF ANY OF US
HAVE FRIENDS OR FAMILY MEMBERS
OR OURSELVES HAVE BEEN
HOSPITALIZED. WE WANT SOMEONE TO
BE NOTIFIED. FOLKS SHOULDN'T
HAVE TO DIE ALONE WITHOUT ANYONE
KNOWING ABOUT THEIR LIFE AND THE
STATUS OF THEIR HEALTH AND EVEN
THEIR DEATH. UNTIL AFTER OR IF
AT ALL, IT IS A COMMON SENSE
MEASURE TO OFFER SOMEONE ACCESS
TO THEIR MEDICAL RECORDS. PEOPLE
HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW. UM
EVERYONE STILL HAS PRIVILEGES TO
HAVE VISITORS. SO THIS JUST SAYS
THAT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE
VISITORS IF YOU HAVE A SERIOUS
INJURY OR ILLNESS. IF YOU HAVE A
TERMINAL ILLNESS AND ARE GETTING
READY TO DIE. I KNOW THAT THE
OPPOSITION HAS TALKED ABOUT
SAFETY CONCERNS. BUT THE TRUTH
IS, THIS BILL IS SILENT ON THOSE
ISSUES AND SO FACILITIES ARE
WELL WITHIN THEIR RIGHT TO
ASSESS. THOSE SECURITY MEASURES
AND MAKE ADJUSTMENTS. THIS
DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH
THAT. ALL WE ARE SAYING IS, YOU
SHOULD BE GIVEN THE SAME KIND OF
HUMANE, DIGNIFIED CARE ON THE
INSIDE. THAT WE FIGHT FOR FOLKS
TO HAVE ON THE OUTSIDE ACCESS TO
RECORDS, A VISITOR AND SOMEONE
THAT YOU CAN CALL OR CAN BE
CALLED ON YOUR BEHALF. TO LET
THEM KNOW THAT YOU ARE AT
DEATH'S DOOR WITH THAT. I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR I VOTE
. THANK YOU. AND THE CHAIRS
RECOMMENDED I VOTE CALLED THE
ROLE SP 11 39 BY SENATOR
KAMLAGER. THE MOTION IS DUE PASS
AS AMENDED TO THE APPROPRIATIONS
COMMITTEE. CHEN SAWYER. JOHN
SAWYER. I LACKEY A LACKEY
ABSTAIN. BONTA BANTA, I BRIAN!
BRIAN, I QUIRK QUIRK, SANTIAGO
SANTIAGO EYES SEE ARTO. MEASURE
PASSES. THANK YOU. AND THEN OUR
LAST BELT SP 12 28 WIENER REMOTE
PROCEDURE DNA SAMPLES. WE HAVE
EMOTION IN THE SECOND. THE
SECOND OF THAT. WORK GOOD. THANK
YOU, MR. LIKE UM, GOOD MORNING,
MR CHAIR. COLLEAGUES SUPPORT
SUPPORT. I'M JUST SAYING YOU
HAVE SUPPORT SUPPORT. SOUNDS
LIKE A VERY BRIEF DETERMINE THIS
BILL WILL ENSURE THAT SEXUAL
ASSAULT SURVIVORS WHO MAKE THE
VERY TOUGH CHOICE TO GO TO THE
HOSPITAL AND HAVE A VERY
INVASIVE AH, EXAMINATION TO
OBTAIN A DNA SAMPLE THAT THAT
SAMPLE HAS NOT BEEN USED AGAINST
THEM IN AN UNRELATED MATTER IN
THE FUTURE. IT'S SIMPLY ERECTS
AN ADDITIONAL BARRIER FOR PEOPLE
NOT TO PROVIDE A DNA SAMPLE. AH
AND THE TIME HAS COME TO CLOSE
THIS LOOPHOLE AND MAKE SURE THAT
SURVIVORS FEEL SAFE GOING TO THE
HOSPITAL AFTER THIS VERY
TRAUMATIC CRIME IS COMMITTED
AGAINST THEM. I RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR KHN IVO AND WITH ME TODAY
WHO WILL TESTIFY BRIEFLY AS KATE
CHATFIELD FROM DECEMBER. CISCO
DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, OUR
SPONSOR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
UM, THIS CAME TO OUR ATTENTION
THROUGH A CASE THAT WE HAD IN
OUR OFFICE WHERE A SEXUAL
ASSAULT SURVIVORS D. N A WAS
USED TO INCRIMINATE HER, AND, IN
FACT, THE ACTUAL RAPE THAT HAD
BEEN COMMITTED HAD NOT BEEN
SOLVED. SO WE CANNOT TREAT
SEXUAL ASSAULT SURVIVORS LIKE
PIECES OF EVIDENCE. WE HAVE TO,
UH, USE THEIR D N A. FOR THE
PURPOSES FOR WHICH IT WAS GIVEN.
SINCE THIS CASE CAME FORWARD, WE
HAVE LEARNED THAT, UM CHILDREN'S
DNA IS IN THIS QUALITY ASSURANCE
DATABASE. UM THIS NEEDS TO STOP
. WE ARE GRATEFUL TO THE
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE. IN THEIR
DEPARTMENT OF FORENSIC SERVICES
, WHO'S BEEN WORKING WITH US TO
MAKE THIS A GREAT BILL AND TO
ENSURE THAT DNA THAT IS
COLLECTED IS USED FOR THE
CORRECT PURPOSE, SO THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. IN BUFFALO OR ANY
OTHER WITNESS IN THE ROOM AND
SUPPORT. CNN WILL GO TO THE
PHONE LINES, WITNESSES AND
SUPPORT A T AND T OPERATOR.
SPEAKING SUPPORTIVE AND THE 12
28. 10 AT THIS TIME. AH FRESH
RESPONSES FROM LIKE 63, PLEASE
GO AHEAD. NATASHA MINSTER ON
BEHALF OF THE PROSECUTOR'S
ALLIANCE OF CALIFORNIA PRACTICE
SPONSOR SP 12. 28 ALSO
EXPRESSING SUPPORT ON BEHALF OF
THE JOYFUL HEART FOUNDATION.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. 9 11,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. YOUR LINE IS
OPEN. MARCO GEORGE ON BEHALF OF
THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC DEFENDERS
ASSOCIATION AND SUPPORT THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. LINE 74. YOUR
LINE IS OPEN. LINE 74. YOUR LINE
IS OPEN. HELLO MY NAME IS
CYNTHIA MARTINEZ ON BEHALF OF MY
HUSBAND, JOE MARTINEZ, WHO IS
CURRENTLY INCARCERATED. I
SUPPORT SB 12 28. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. LINE 84. YOUR LINE IS
OPEN. GEORGE GRANDPA DO ON
BEHALF OF THE A C L U CALIFORNIA
ACTION IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
ONE MOMENT WE HAVE ONE MORE WITH
AN OPERATOR. NEXT IS LINE 87. 9
87. YOUR LINE IS OPEN. HI MY
NAME IS PAM DIAL AND MY HUSBAND
IS INCARCERATED. AND AS SOMEONE
WHO HAS DEALT WITH THIS I AM IN
SUPPORT OF THIS BILL. I HAD SOME
RISK TAKEN AND PUT IN ICU. AT
THIS TIME WE HAVE NOBODY ELSE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NOW
WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION. THE
NUN GOES THE PHONE LINES,
WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION. THIS
TIME, IF YOU HAVE IN OPPOSITION
TO THIS FILLING IS COMPRESSED
ONE THAN ZERO AT THIS TIME.
CURRENTLY WE HAVE NOBODY QUEUING
UP, BRINGING BACK THE COMMITTEE
FOR ANY QUESTIONS, CONCERNS,
COMMENTS. SEEING NONE. YOU MAY
CLOSE RESPECT CLASS FROM MY VOTE
CHAIRS. RECOMMEND I VOTE
COLORABLE SP 12 28 BY SENATOR
WIENER. THE MOTION IS DUE PASSED
THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE
JOAN SAWYER, JOAN SAWYER. I
LACKEY LACKEY EYES BONTA, I
BRIAN, BRIAN, I QUIRK QUIRK I
SANTIAGO SANTIAGO EYES SEYARTO.
THAT MEASURE PASSAGE. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. COLLEAGUES WILL NOW
GO TO WELL, NOW DO ANY ADD ONS,
BOTH CHANGES AND LIFTING OF
CALLS. MADAM SECRETARY,
SECRETARY PLEASE GO THROUGH ALL
THE MEASURES TAKEN UP TODAY.
UNDER CONSENT CALENDAR. SANTIAGO
SANTIAGO. AYE. ITEM NUMBER ONE
SB 10 34 BY SENATOR ATKINS
BONTA. PONTA I SANTIAGO.
SANTIAGO. AYE. ITEM NUMBER TWO
WAS ON CONSENT. ITEM NUMBER
THREE SP 9 15 BY SENATOR MEN.
THIS MEASURE WAS ON CALL
SANTIAGO SANTIAGO I THAT MEASURE
PASSES. ITEM NUMBER FOUR SP 13
84 BY SENATOR MEN. THIS MEASURE
WAS ON CALL SANTIAGO SANTIAGO I
THAT MEASURE PASSES. ITEM NUMBER
FIVE. SB 11 10 BY SENATOR
MELENDEZ SANTIAGO. SANTIAGO.
AYE. ITEM NUMBER SIX SB 11 17
SEYARTO. THE REST OF THE REST.
OKAY?
AN ITEM NUMBER SIX. SB 11 17 BY
SENATOR BECKER SEYARTO TOÀN
SEYARTO NÓ. AN ITEM NUMBER SEVEN
SB 11 30 LINE. EXCUSE ME 11 39
COM LOGGERS SEYARTO CR TWO, NOT
VOTING. AND LASTLY, SB 12 28 BY
SENATOR WIENER SEYARTO. SEYARTO.
AYE.