ALL CALLING TO ORDER THE.
HEARING OF THE ASSEMBLY. FARMALL
SAFETY AND TOXIC MATERIALS
COMMITTEE. WE DON'T HAVE A
QUORUM YET, SO WE'LL START AS A
SUBCOMMITTEE, AND WE'LL HEAR A
BILL ONCE WE HAVE AN AUTHOR.
COULD THE SERGEANT GET AHOLD OF
SENATOR ALLEN AND SEE IF HE CAN
COME AND PRESENT. GOOD AFTERNOON
AND WELCOME TO THIS HEARING OF
THE ASSEMBLY, ENVIRONMENTAL
SAFETY AND TOXIC MATERIALS
COMMITTEE. FIRST NAOMI. UM.
PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND SO PEOPLE
CAN SEE YOU. UM WITH THE MASK,
BUT UM, WELCOME TO OUR NEW E S.
TÌM COMMITTEE CONSULTANT NAOMI
ON DRASTIC UH, WE HAVE THRILLED
TO HAVE HER BACK IN THE
ASSEMBLY. SHE PURPOSE PREVIOUSLY
SERVED AS A CALIFORNIA COUNCIL
AND SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY
SCIENCE POLICY. FELLOW. SO
WELCOME, AND WE'RE LOOKING
FORWARD TO YOUR TIME. HERE, UM
AND WHAT IS YOUR PHD IN?
NEUROSCIENCE IN NEUROSCIENCE,
OKAY? BRIGHT WOMAN HERE DOUBT.
SHE SHE WILL DO WELL. I WOULD
ALSOLIKE, UH, TO SAY THAT
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S MCCARTY IS
GOING TO BE SUBSTITUTING. TODAY
WE HAVE STILL AN OPENING. AS TWO
MORE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ELECTED
RECENTLY WILL HOPEFULLY WE'LL
GET ONE OF THEM. ANYWAY.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S CARDI IS IN
HEALTH NOW. AND HE'LL COME AND
VOTE LATER ON. UM OUT OF THE
TECHNICAL ASPECTS OF THE
HEARING. TODAY WITNESSES WILL BE
ABLE TO TESTIFY BOTH FROM INSIDE
THE HEARING ROOM OR VIA PHONE
LINES. SO THE CALL IN NUMBER FOR
THIS HEARING. AND I'LL SAY IT
TWICE. IT'S 877 692. 8957. AND
THE ACCESS CODE IS 131. 54 44.
AGAIN THAT'S 877. 692. 8957. AND
THE ACCESS CODE IS 131. 54 FOR
FOUR. YOU CAN ALSO FIND THIS
NUMBER ON THE ASSEMBLY
ENVIRONMENTAL SAFETY AND TOXIC
MATERIAL COMMITTEE WEBSITE AS
WELL AS ON YOUR SCREEN. IF
YOU'RE CRAWLING IN, PLEASE
ELIMINATE ALL BACKGROUND NOISE.
THIS INCLUDES MUTING YOUR
LIVESTREAM BROADCAST AND YOUR
SMART DEVICE TO REDUCE THE SOUND
DISTORTION. PLEASE NOTE THAT
CALL AND TESTIMONY WILL BE
COMBINED FOR BOTH SUPPORT AND
OPPOSITION. AND WE'LL BE TAKEN
AFTER BOTH SUPPORT AND
OPPOSITION PRIMARY WITNESSES
HAVE TESTIFIED. PRIMARY WITNESS
. TESTIMONY IS LIMITED FOUR
MINUTES TOTAL FOR EACH SIDE.
ALSO PLEASE BE INVOLVED ADVISED
THAT IF YOUR PRIMARY WITNESS
CALLING IN YOU REMAIN ON LIVE
LINE AND WILL NEED TO MUTE
YOURSELF UNTIL YOU'RE CALLED ON
TO SPEAK. ALL ADDITIONAL
WITNESSES WILL BE LIMITED TO
STUDYING THEIR NAME
ORGANIZATION. IF THEY REPRESENT
ONE AND THEIR POSITION ON THE
BILL. I ALSO WANT TO NOTE WE'RE
ACCEPTING WRITTEN TESTIMONY
THROUGH THE POSITION LETTER
PORTAL ON THE COMMITTEE'S
WEBSITE. THANK YOU FOR BEARING
WITH US AS WE IMPLEMENT METHODS
TO CONTINUE TO SERVE THE PEOPLE
OF CALIFORNIA. WE HAVE SEVEN
BILLS ON TODAY'S AGENDA. ONE
BILL IS ON IS ON CONSENT. AND
THE BILL ON CONSENT IS NEWMAN.
ARCHER LETTER. ARCHER LETTA SB
11 57. £53 BOY. SB 11 53, OKAY.
ALL RIGHT. WELL, WE STILL DON'T
HAVE A QUORUM. UM. SERGEANT
COULD YOU CALL THE ABSENT
MEMBERS? EXCEPT FOR MCCARTHY, HE
I KNOW HE WON'T BE HERE BECAUSE
HE'S SOMEWHERE ELSE. TOGETHERS
ARE SOMEWHERE ELSE, TOO, BUT
THEY COULD JUST COME IN HERE FOR
A FEW MINUTES SO WE CAN
ESTABLISH A QUORUM. THAT WOULD
BE GREAT. AND OF COURSE, WE
DON'T HAVE SENATOR ALLEN YET. SO
I GUESS WE'LL JUST WAIT FOR A
WHILE. IN THE MEANTIME. I'M VERY
APPRECIATIVE TO HAVE MR SMITH
AND MR MATHIS. HERE. THANK YOU.
MM HMM. IT SEEMS TO ME EVEN
THOUGH WELL, I'M GOING TO GO
SILENT NOW.
OKAY? YOU HAVE SAVED US. THANK
YOU. WE'RE WE HAVEN'T
ESTABLISHED A QUORUM YET. OKAY?
AH SB 8 91 BUSINESS LICENSES
STORMWATER DISCHARGE COMPLIANCE.
UM AND START WHEN READY. THANK
YOU. MEMBERS AND HI. MR
CHAIRMAN. THREE YEARS AGO. HOW
ARE YOU? THANKS FOR HELPING
THREE YEARS AGO, I AUTHORED A
MEASURE. S P 205 TO REQUIRE
INDUSTRIAL FACILITIES TO
DEMONSTRATE STORMWATER
COMPLIANCE. WHEN APPLYING FOR
AND RENEWING A BUSINESS LICENSE
WITH THEIR RESPECTIVE CITY AND
COUNTY IT'S HAPPENING IS HE'S
INDUSTRIAL FACILITIES WERE
CAUSING EXTRAORDINARY DISCHARGES
, AND WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT
A CREATIVE WAY. TO NOT BE TOO
BURDENSOME, BUT TO MAKE SURE
THAT THE FOLKS GOT REGISTERED
AND GET A LICENSE. AND SO WE
DIDN'T THERE WAS NO NEW
STORMWATER REGULATIONS WERE JUST
EQUIPPED THE STATE WITH A BETTER
WAY TO MONITOR THE SITUATION, OF
COURSE, WOULD ALWAYS HAPPENS IS
IN THE REASON WHY THE
LEGISLATURE EXISTS. IS BECAUSE
SOMEONE FIGURED OUT A WAY TO GET
THROUGH A LOOPHOLE AND, LIKE
ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER. I'LL BE
BACK AND I'M BACK TO FILL THAT
LOOPHOLE, AND THE LOOPHOLE WAS
THAT UM, WHEN WE SAID THE WORD
LICENSES, AS SOME SOME
JURISDICTIONS HAD THE WORD
CERTIFICATE INSTEAD OF A LICENSE
, SO THEY, OF COURSE, SAID AH,
IT DOESN'T APPLY TO ME BECAUSE I
DON'T HAVE BUSINESS LICENSE. I
HAVE A BUSINESS CERTIFICATE. AH,
HERTZBERG ON THE ON THE HUNT,
AND WE'RE CLOSING THE LOOPHOLE.
AND SO, UM, BASICALLY WE HAD A
PRETTY SIGNIFICANT IMPACT IN
TERMS OF THESE BUSINESS LICENSES
. THESE NEW REGULATIONS IN
ESSENCE, CHARLOTTE, EXPLAIN IT
TO YOU A LITTLE BIT. BUT BUT YOU
KNOW THIS IS SERIOUS BECAUSE A
SIGNIFICANT PERCENTAGE. I'M TOLD
THIS AS HIGH AS 95% OF ALL
WATERWAYS ARE CONSIDERED
IMPAIRED OR HIGHLY POLLUTED, AND
SO WE HAVE TO DEVELOP THIS
PROCESS, AND WE'RE DOING IT IN
THE LEAST RESTRICTIVE WAY
POSSIBLE, SO WE'RE IN ANOTHER IN
ADDITION TO OTHER COUPLE OF
MATTERS THIS IS WHAT THIS
MEASURE DOES IT IS I NEVER HAVE
A SIMPLE BILL BECAUSE I DON'T
BELIEVE ANYBODY SHOULD SAY THERE
IS SIMPLE BOOKS. I'VE NEVER SEEN
A POLITICIAN WRITE A PRESS
RELEASE, IT SAYS. I JUST PASSED
A SIMPLE BILL. IT'S AN IMPORTANT
BILL BECAUSE IT HELPS SOLVE THE
UNDERLYING PROBLEM. I ASKED MY
VOTE. SHAWN BARTHWELL FROM THE
CALIFORNIA COAST KEEPERS
ALLIANCE HAS BEEN THE PARTNER IN
THIS ENDEAVOR FOR THE LAST MANY
YEARS, AND HE WILL TESTIFY IF
THAT IS SO APPROPRIATE, BUT BY
THE COMMITTEE CHAIR, SO, UH, MR
BOTHWELL, PLEASE PROCEED. IT'S
NICE TO SEE YOU AGAIN. THANKS TO
SEND YOU TO CHECK WORKING
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. THANK YOU,
SENATOR. AS YEAH, AS A CENTER
MENTIONED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
WE DID S P 205. THE BILL WAS
CREATED IN PARTNERSHIP ACTUALLY,
WITH THE INDUSTRIAL STORMWATER
PERMIT EASE BECAUSE THEY REALLY
SAW THAT BILL AS A WAY TO
CAPTURE THE NON FILERS AND
CREATE AN EVEN PLAYING FIELD FOR
ALL ALL PEOPLE THAT ARE
DISCHARGING INDUSTRIAL
STORMWATER. SO BECAUSE OF THAT
IT WAS ACTUALLY A BIPARTISAN
BILL, AND IT REALLY WORKED WELL
, WORKING WITH THE PERMIT EASY
AT THE TIME. UM THE IS THE
CENTER MENTIONED THERE. THERE'S
BEEN A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT
WE'VE SEEN THE IMPLEMENTATION OF
IT. UM YOU KNOW, AT FIRST, THERE
WAS A LITTLE ROCKY. EVERYONE
NEEDED TO UNDERSTAND, DO I? WHAT
DO I NEED A PERMIT? DO I NOT?
THERE WAS A LOT OF PHONE CALLS
THE WATERBOARD I HEARD. BUT THEY
REALLY SMOOTH THAT OUT, AND THEY
HAVE A GOOD PROCESS GOING NOW
WE'VE ACTUALLY ENROLLED, UM IN
JUST LOS ANGELES. 2000 NEW
PERMIT EASE. UM WE EXPECT THAT
THERE'S ABOUT 3 TO 5000 MORE OUT
THERE THAT STILL NEED TO BE
ENROLLED UNDER THIS. AND
CERTAINLY THIS BILL WILL HELP
BECAUSE IT DOES CLOSE THAT
LOOPHOLE FOR CITIES QUITE
FRANKLY, MAJOR CITIES THAT THAT
HAD CERTIFICATES RATHER THAN
LICENSES TO OTHER THINGS THAT WE
FOUND DURING IMPLEMENTATION. WE
TRIED TO GET PUBLIC RECORDS JUST
TO SEE WHAT WAS FILED WITH THE
LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND CERTAIN
MUNICIPALITIES WEREN'T WILLING
TO GIVE THAT UP. UM AND SO
THAT'S ANOTHER CLARIFICATION WE
MAKE IN THE BILL JUST TO SEE
WHAT THEY SUBMITTED NONE OF THE
PERSONAL TAX INFORMATION OR
ANYTHING LIKE THAT. AND THEN
LASTLY, THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS
THAT HAVE BEEN FILING FOR WHAT'S
CONSIDERED A NON EXPOSURE. I
MEAN, THEY'RE NOT EXPOSED TO
STORMWATER AND WE'VE BEEN DOING
SOME INVESTIGATIONS. WE DON'T
NECESSARILY BELIEVE THAT ALL
THOSE ARE VERY ACCURATE. SO THE
BILL SPECIFIES THAT MONEY FROM
THE STORMWATER PERMITS. THE FEES
THAT ARE RAISED WILL GO TOWARDS
THE INSPECTIONS TO VALIDATE
THAT. THAT WAS TRUE. UM SO I'M
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS YOU HAVE, BUT THANK
YOU AND ASK FOR YOUR VOTE. ALL
RIGHT. THANK YOU. UM WE DO NOT
HAVE A PRIMARY WITNESS IN OUR
POSITION. ALRIGHT THOSE IN THE
ROOM WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AND
SUPPORT YOU CAN COME FORWARD NOW
WITH NAME AH, YOUR POSITION AND
ANY ORGANIZATION THAT YOU'RE
WITH. IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES
TO COME FORWARD? OKAY? IS THERE
ANYONE IN OPPOSITION IN THE
ROOM? WE WOULD LIKE TO COME
FORWARD. OKAY AND NOW WE'LL GO
TO THE LINE. AH OPERATOR. ANYONE
WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON SB 891
HERTZBERG. BUSINESS LICENSES.
STORMWATER DISCHARGE COMPLIANCE.
ANYONE WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON
THAT AS FOUR OR AGAINST, UH
PLEASE GET THEM ON THE LINE.
THANK YOU, MR CHAIR FOR THOSE OF
YOU WHO WISH TO SPEAK TO THIS
BILL, PLEASE PRESS ONE THAN
ZERO. NO ONE HAS SIGNALED THAT
THEY WISH TO SPEAK. WELL, THAT
MAKES IT EASY. UM ANYONE HAVE
QUESTIONS? IF THANK YOU. THANK
YOU, SIR. ALL RIGHT. UM I
APPRECIATE THAT. UM I KNOW HOW
IMPORTANT THIS IS WHILE I WAS ON
CITY COUNCIL. WE'VE BEEN TOLD
WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE STORM
WATER THAT OUR SYSTEM DRAINS
INTO THE BAY. AND. IT'S A MAJOR
CONCERN AND REGULATIONS ARE
GETTING TIGHTER, AND IF THERE'S
SOMETHING WE CAN MEET UP FRONT,
THAT'S THAT'S FOR THE BEST, SO
UM, I AM. VERY MUCH IN FAVOR.
ALL RECOMMENDED I WHEN WE HAVE A
QUORUM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
CLOSING CLOSING GUYS DOING
THING. YEAH. I MEAN, ONE OF THE
THINGS WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE
THAT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO
KIND OF PRINCIPLES. ONE IS TO
MAKE IT SIMPLE. I CAN'T STAND
ALL THIS GOBBLEDYGOOK REGULATION
THAT MAKES IT SO DIFFICULT TO
COMPLY. AND SECOND. WHAT HAPPENS
IS WHEN THOSE WHO DON'T COMPLY.
PUT THE BURDEN ON HIS NPD S
PERMITS ON THE BUSINESSES THAT
DO COMPLY AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE
EQUITY AND FAIRNESS IN THE
PROCESS. SO, IN ADDITION TO
TRYING TO LOOPHOLE GENERALLY,
BUT IN THE IN THE IMPORTANT
PUBLIC POLICY ISSUES THAT
THERE'S ANOTHER ASPECT OF THIS,
I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT. IN
TERMS OF FAIRNESS TO EVERYBODY
BEAR THE BURDEN OF THE
INDUSTRIAL FOLKS THAT NEED TO
GET PERMITS. GREAT. THINK ALL
RIGHT. THANK YOU. HAVE YOUR BILL
ON THE NEXT 1 12 50 FOR DRINKING
WATER. THIS IS ROUND TWO.
SIMILAR SITUATION. HERZBERG ON
THE ON THE JOB, NOT LET ANYTHING
FALL THROUGH THE CRACKS. SO WHAT
HAPPENS IS LOWEST. WALKER
WONDERFULLY ESTEEMED SENATOR AND
FORMER ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S IN THIS
ORGANIZATION. IN 2000 AND 16
pBILL GRANTED THE STATE WATER
BOARD THE ABILITY TO APPOINT
THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATORS TO
ASSIST FAILING WATER DISTRICTS.
NOW, WHY WAS THAT IMPORTANT?
CURRENTLY WE HAVE OVER 300
PUBLIC WATER SYSTEMS THAT ARE
FAILING TO PROVIDE SAFE DRINKING
WATER, AND THEN THEY BASICALLY
THOSE SYSTEMS SERVE AND
ESTIMATED HALF A MILLION PEOPLE.
SO THE NOTION BEHIND THE WALK
MEASURE WAS TO SAY, LET'S GET A
THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATOR COMING
INTO THIS DEAL AND TO HELP THESE
SYSTEMS WORK, BUT WHAT HAPPENS
IS THESE FOLKS ARE WORRIED ABOUT
LIABILITY. SO OF THE 13 SYSTEMS,
ONLY ONE HAS BEEN APPOINTED TO
DATE. SO THE QUESTION BECAME,
WHAT'S A CREATIVE WAY TO TRY TO
GET THESE FOLKS AND THE TO COME
IN AND BE ADMINISTRATORS AND THE
REASON THEY WON'T IS BECAUSE
THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT LIABILITY
? AND SO WE'RE GOING TO THIS
BILL BASICALLY PROTECTS THEM
FROM NOT FROM FROM NEGLIGENCE,
AND THINGS LIKE THAT, ACTUALLY,
NOT INTENTIONAL LIABILITY
PROTECTS THEM FROM LIABILITY SO
WE CAN GET WATER TO THESE
COMMUNITIES. THAT DON'T HAVE
WATER SYSTEMS AND THAT THERE WAS
AN INTELLIGENT IDEA BUT AGAIN,
THE LAW OF UNINTENDED
CONSEQUENCES, THE REASON THE
LEGISLATURE EXISTS A FOLLOW UP,
FOLLOW UP, FOLLOW UP AND MAKE
SURE THAT THE THINGS THAT WE TRY
TO DO ACTUALLY WORK AND THAT'S
WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO HERE
BECAUSE WATER IS MY LIFE. UM I
NEVER REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE
BILLS YOU BRING TO US, AND YOU
WERE DEGREE OF EXPERTISE IN THIS
IS VERY MUCH APPRECIATED. UM
SHOW. WE DO NOT HAVE A PRIMARY
WITNESS IN OPPOSITION, BUT WE DO
HAVE ONE IN SUPPORT. DARREN
BEHEMOTHS, DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF
THE DIVISION OF DRINKING WATER,
THE STATE WATER RESOURCES
CONTROL BOARD. WHO I BELIEVE IS
ON THE PHONE LINE. MR POLHEMUS,
COULD YOU SPEAK UP? I AM. THANK
YOU. CHAIR QUIRK. PLEASURE TO BE
HERE AND THANK YOU, SENATOR
HERTZBERG. I ALWAYS THINK I
WANTED TO ADD ON TO HOW HE SO
ELOQUENTLY SPOKE ABOUT THIS BILL
IS THAT, UM, THIS DOESN'T
PROTECT WATER SYSTEM
ADMINISTRATORS THAT WE APPOINT
FROM LIABILITY OF THEIR OWN
ACTIONS THAT ONLY PROTECTS THEM
FROM LIABILITY THAT WAS EXISTING
BEFORE THEY TOOK OVER. SO ANY
ANYTHING THAT EXISTED PRIOR THAT
LIABILITY STILL REMAINS WITH THE
WATER SYSTEM. CUSTOMERS STILL
HAVE RECOURSE FOR THAT BILL FOR
THAT FOR THAT LIABILITY. AND WE
KEEP THEM PROTECTED, SO IT'S
REALLY JUST ALLOWING A GOOD
SAMARITAN TYPE SCENARIO TO TAKE
PLACE. WE HAVE CONSULTING FIRMS
AND OTHERS LINED UP THAT WANT TO
DEAL WITH THIS AND THAT WILL BE
ABLE TO TAKE THIS THIS FORWARD.
AND I'LL JUST ALSO ADD THAT WE
ALREADY HAVE THE SAME LIABILITY
PROTECTION IN THE AUTHORITY
GRANTED TO US BY THE LEGISLATURE
FOR CONSOLIDATIONS. WHERE WHERE
WE SEEM NECESSARY. WE CAN
CONSOLIDATE SMALL SYSTEMS WITH
OTHER SYSTEMS. WHEN THERE ARE
DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITY AND
FACING REALLY BAD WATER QUALITY
. UM SO WE'RE JUST MARRYING THAT
OVER AND BRINGING THIS IN, AND I
THINK IT'S A COMMON SENSE MOVED
. SO I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR
CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU. ALL
RIGHT, UM. IS THERE ANYONE IN
THE ROOM WHO WISHES TO SPEAK AND
SUPPORT IS THERE ANYONE IN THE
ROOM WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN
OPPOSITION? AND THEN WE'LL GO TO
THE PHONE LINES. AND ANYONE IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO SB 12
54 HERZBERG DRINKING WATER
ADMINISTRATOR. UH PLEASE,
OPERATOR, GET THEM ON THE LINE.
THANK YOU, MR CHAIR FOR THOSE
WHO WISH TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION OF THIS BILL, PLEASE
PRESS ONE THAN ZERO AT THIS
TIME. MR CHAIR. WE HAVE A COUPLE
OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE SIGNALED THAT
THEY WISH TO SPEAK. OKAY, JUST A
MOMENT. WE'RE GOING TO GO TO
LINE 52. GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIR
AND MEMBERS DANIEL BLAST OF
HAYDN WITH CALIFORNIA MUNICIPAL
UTILITIES ASSOCIATION AND
SUPPORT THANK YOU. LINE 47. YES
THANK YOU. CHECK FORK AND MEMBER
CINDY TECH WITH THE ASSOCIATION
OF CALIFORNIA WATER AGENCIES,
PLEASE TO SUPPORT THE BILL.
THANK YOU. LINE 48. HELLO THIS
IS ANDREA VENTURA WITH CLEAN
WATER ACTION IN SUPPORT OF SB 12
54. VERY GOOD. T CHAIR. THERE
IS NO ONE ELSE TO SIGNAL THAT
THEY WISH TO SPEAK. ALL RIGHT.
MR HERTZBERG, SENATOR, WOULD YOU
LIKE TO FINISH CLOSED. CAN I
SORRY TO BE THE HISTORIAN AROUND
HERE? BUT IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE
THAT IT WASN'T UNTIL 2000 AND 12
AND THEN ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S MIKE
IN INTRODUCED TO MEASURE SIGNED
BY THE GOVERNOR. THAT THAT MADE
, UM CALIFORNIA BECAME THE FIRST
STATES HAVE HUMAN RIGHTS. HAVE
WATER THAT RIGHT HAS NOT BEEN
EXERCISED IN PARTICULARLY RURAL
CALIFORNIA IN A VERY INHUMANE
AND PAINFUL WAY. I PROBABLY
CARRIED A DOZEN BILLS. I
REPRESENT AN URBAN AREA IN LOS
ANGELES. THAT DOESN'T HAVE THESE
PROBLEMS, BUT I THINK IT'S
CRITICALLY IMPORTANT AS A STATE
AS A SOCIETY THAT WE MAKE SURE
YOU READ THESE EMBARRASSING
STORIES OF COMMUNITIES THAT RUN
THE WATER OR DON'T HAVE CLEAN
WATER OR HAVE THESE OTHER
CHALLENGES, AND I'VE BEEN
FIGHTING LIKE THE DICKENS TO
MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE TAKEN
CARE OF, AND THIS IS JUST
ANOTHER STEP. IN THE MARCH OF
THAT FIGHT, BIOSPHERE I VOTE AND
I'D ASK YOU TO CLOSE BEFORE I
ASKED FOR QUESTIONS FROM THE
COMMITTEE, BUT ANY QUESTIONS
FROM THE COMMITTEE. YOU MUST
HAVE BEEN VERY THOROUGH. UM
OKAY, WELL, WE NEED ONE MORE FOR
QUORUM. AH OUR MISS MISS BOW
BAUER-KAHAN. IF YOU'RE IN, YOU
CAN LEAVE SENATOR. ANY TIME WILL
WILL DEFINITELY TAKE CARE OF
ALLOWING ANYBODY TO JOIN THESE
COMMITTEES. CAN'T YOU JUST
APPOINT ME? I CALL IT CALL IT
THE SPEAKER. ITS FORMER SPEAKER.
I THINK I HAVE A RIGHT TO THE
JOINT AND JUST JOIN AND BE PART
OF THE COMMITTEE. I'D LOVE TO
HAVE YOU WOULD BE FUN. THANKS,
EVERYBODY. YEAH YOU DEFINITELY
LIGHTEN THE, UH, THE ATMOSPHERE.
UM SO MISS BOW BAUER-KAHAN, MR.
MIRROR SOUCI. PLEASE COME SO WE
CAN ESTABLISH A QUORUM AND START
MAKING MOTIONS ON BILLS. WE'RE
STILL WAITING FOR AN AUTHOR.
MHM.
SO ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S. OH,
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S GARCIA. IS
GOING TO START THE PRESENTATION
FOR SENATOR ALLEN. UM. THE BILL
IS HAZARDOUS MATERIALS, GREEN
CHEMISTRY, CONSUMER PRODUCTS. UM
SO PLEASE. COME FORWARD AND THE
WITNESSES I SEE COMING FORWARD
AS WELL. THANK YOU. YES, THANK
YOU. SP FIVE OH TUBA, MR ALLEN
UPDATES AND REFORMS CALIFORNIA'S
SAFER CONSUMER PRODUCT OR GREEN
CHEMISTRY PROGRAM, SO AMONG
OTHER THINGS, STREAMLINED THE
ALTERNATIVES ANALYSIS PROCESS.
AND REQUIRES MANUFACTURERS TO
PROVIDE DATA ON CONSUMER
PRODUCTS TO DTSC. THIS IS A
REINTRODUCTION OF A PREVIOUS
BILL THAT WE HAD SEEN. AND IT
HAS NO OPPOSITION WITH ME. I DO
HAVE AN RDC KAYLA ROBINSON T. I
SPEAK ON BEHALF. THANK YOU. GOOD
AFTERNOON, MR CHAIR AND MEMBERS
KAYLA ROBINSON ON BEHALF OF NRDC
ACTION FUND. NRDC HAS A LONG
HISTORY OF WORKING ON TOXICS
ISSUES. OUR WORK IS FOCUSED ON
ELIMINATING HUMAN EXPOSURE TO
THE MOST HARMFUL CHEMICALS AND
ON LAWS AND PROGRAMS TO PROTECT
OUR COMMUNITIES FROM THE RISK OF
HARMFUL CHEMICALS. THE SAFER
CONSUMER PRODUCTS PROGRAM IS AN
ESSENTIAL COMPONENT OF
ADDRESSING THE TOXIC CHEMICALS
BEFORE THEY BECOME A PROBLEM. IT
PLACES THE FOCUS ON PREVENTING
TOXIC EXPOSURES IN THE FIRST
PLACE RATHER THAN CLEANING UP R
FIXING THE EFFECTS OF THAT
EXPOSURE AFTER THE FACT. HOWEVER
THE PACE OF PROGRESS HAS BEEN
SLOWER THAN IDEAL BECAUSE OF THE
STRUCTURAL FACTORS IDENTIFIED IN
A 10 YEAR RETROSPECTIVE REVIEW
OF THE PROGRAM BY DR GINA
SOLOMON AND THE PUBLIC HEALTH
INSTITUTE. SB 502 ADDRESSES A
NUMBER OF RECOMMENDATIONS FROM
THE REPORT. ONE KEY EXAMPLE OF
THE IMPROVEMENTS IN THIS BILL IS
THE PROGRAMS LACK OF ACCESS TO
PRODUCT INGREDIENT DATA PROGRAM
STAFF HAVE HAD TO RESORT TO
GOOGLE SEARCHES AND UNSUCCESSFUL
VOLUNTARY INDUSTRY REQUESTS TO
GET INFORMATION ON PRODUCT
INGREDIENTS. THE RESULTS HAVE
HAS BEEN UNNECESSARY AND
SOMETIMES LENGTHY DELAYS. SP 502
PROVIDES THE DEPARTMENT WITH
CLEARER, STRONGER DATA
COLLECTION AUTHORITY THAT STILL
PRESERVES THE TRADE SECRET
PROTECTIONS ALREADY IN THE GREEN
CHEMISTRY LAW. THE BILL ALSO
CREATES DEADLINES AND CLEAR
REQUIREMENTS FOR THE PROGRAM TO
OUTLINE TIMELINES FOR ACTION,
WHICH PROVIDE BOTH TRANSPARENCY
AND ACCOUNTABILITY. FINALLY SP
502 ALSO INCLUDES PROVISIONS TO
REMOVE REDUNDANCIES IN THE
ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS AND TO
STREAMLINE THE PROGRAM'S
WORKLOAD THAT WILL ALSO HELP
IMPROVE THE PACE OF THE PROGRAM.
FOR ALL THESE REASONS, WE ARE
DRIVE OUT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE ROOM
WHO WISHED TO TESTIFY AND
SUPPORT ON THIS MEASURE. SEEN
NONE. WE DO NOT HAVE A PRIMARY.
WITNESS IN OUR POSITION. IS
THERE ANYONE IN THE ROOM WHO
WISHES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO
THIS BILL? VERY GOOD. UM SO NOW
WE WILL GO FOR SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION. SB 502 ALLEN AS ITS
MATERIALS GREEN CHEMISTRY. UM
AH, BUT FIRST WE HAVE A QUORUM.
THIS IS TO ESTABLISH QUORUM
QUIRK. THEIR WORK HERE, SMITH.
SMITH HERE, ARAMBULA BAUER-KAHAN
, CRISTINA GARCIA, CRISTINA
GARCIA HERE. MATHIS MATHES HERE.
MURATSUCHI MURATSUCHI HERE,
WALDRON. MCCARTY, WE HAVE A
QUORUM. VERY GOOD. UM. WELL,
SOMEONE LIKE THANK YOU. DO WE
HAVE A SECOND? GOOD. UM WELL,
THIS IS EXCELLENT. UM. PHONE
LINES ARE NEXT, UM SO THOSE ON
THE PHONES WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK
ON THIS BILL? AH OPERATOR,
PLEASE HAVE THEM. COME ON FOR SB
50 TO ALLEN. YOU MR CHAIR FOR
THOSE WHO WISH TO SPEAK IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO THIS
BILL, PLEASE PRESS ONE, THEN
ZERO. AND WE'RE GOING TO FIRST
HEAR FROM LINE 46. GOOD
AFTERNOON CHAIR AND MEMBERS
ERICA ROMERO HERE ON BEHALF OF
BREAST CANCER PREVENTION
PARTNERS IN STRONG SUPPORT OF SB
502. THANK YOU. LINE 48. HELLO
THIS IS ANDREA VENTURA WITH
CLEAN WATER ACTION. WE WERE ONE
OF THE ORIGINAL SPONSORS ON THIS
BILL AND CONTINUE TO BE IN
SUPPORT. FINE, 55. HI BILL. AH,
LEO WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL
WORKING GROUP LIKE CLEAN WATER
ACTION. WE'VE BEEN ON THIS BILL
FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS HAS A LOT
OF GOOD PROVISIONS TO HELP THIS
PROGRAM IMPROVED AND BE MORE
EFFICIENT. THANK YOU. T CHAIR.
THERE IS NO ONE ELSE TO SIGNAL
THAT THEY WISH TO SPEAK. ALL
RIGHT, UM ANY MEMBERS HAVE
QUESTIONS. ALRIGHT YOU MAKE
CLOTHES RESPECTFULLY ASKED FOR A
VOTE FOR MR ALLEN'S SB 502.
GREAT. ALRIGHT MADAM SECRETARY
WILL CALL THE ROLL ON THIS AND
THEN WE'LL CATCH UP WITH THE
OTHERS. THIS IS ITEM ONE SP 50
TO ALLEN. THE MOTION IS DO PASS
AND RE REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE
ON APPROPRIATIONS QUIRK. QUIRK.
I SMITH SMITH, I ARAMBULA
BAUER-KAHAN. CRISTINA GARCIA
GARCIA, I MATHIS MATHIS. I'M
MURATSUCHI MURATSUCHI. AYE
WALDRON MCCARTY WE HAVE FIVE
VOTES. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU, MR
MANTIS. AH! IN YOUR SECOND DID
IT SO WE'RE GOOD. GO AHEAD. THIS
IS THE CONSENT CALENDAR CONSISTS
OF ITEM NUMBER SEVEN SB 11 53
ARCHULETTA. THE MOTION IS DO
PASS AND RE REFERRED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS WITH
RECOMMENDATION TO CONSENT
CALENDAR QUIRK. QUIRK I SMITH
SMITH, I ARAMBULA. BAUER-KAHAN
CRISTINA GARCIA, CRISTINA GARCIA
, I MATHIS MATHIS. I MURATSUCHI. MURATSUCHI AYE, WALDRON
MCCARTY. WE HAVE FIVE VOTES. ALL
RIGHT. EXCELLENT. ALL RIGHT NOW
WE HAVE TO UM HERZBERG BILLS GO
AHEAD. ALRIGHT CAN WE HAVE A
MOTION ON. ALRIGHT I'LL TAKE THE
1ST AND 2ND ON BOTH HERZBERG
BILL. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS ITEM
NUMBER TWO SB 891 HERTZBERG. THE
MOTION IS DO PASS AND RE
REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
LOCAL GOVERNMENT. QUIRK. QUIRK I
SMITH SMITH, NO ARAMBULA.
BAUER-KAHAN. CRISTINA GARCIA,
CRISTINA GARCIA, I MATHIS
MATHIS. I MURATSUCHI MURATSUCHI.
AYE, WALDRON. MCCARTHY. SO WE'VE
THAT ON CALL. THIS IS ITEM
THREE. SP 12 54 HERTZBERG. THE
MOTION IS DO PASS, AND WE REFER
TO THE COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY.
QUIRK QUIRK I SMITH. SMITH, I
ARAMBULA. BAUER-KAHAN CRISTINA
GARCIA. CRISTINA GARCIA? AYE.
MATHIS. MATHIS. I, TUCCI.
MURATSUCHI I SO THAT ONE DOES
HAVE FIVE VOTES. EXCELLENT LEAVE
IT OPEN SO THAT ONE IS OUT.
SENATOR ALAN, WE SHOULD HAVE
SAVED YOU THE WALK. YOU'VE
ACTUALLY. YOUR BILL IS OUT, BUT
YOU'RE WELCOME TO TESTIFY IN THE
SPIRIT. OH YES. ARCHER LETTERS,
THE SPIRIT OF EVERYONE
PRESENTING FOR EACH OTHER, AND I
DO WANT TO THANK MY COLLEAGUE
SOME MEMBER GARCIA FOR
PRESENTING MY BILL. UM I AM NOT
PRESENTING SENATE ARCHULETTA SB
10 76 AS YOU AS YOU. I'M SURE
BEEN TOLD THE GOVERNMENTAL
ORGANIZATION COMMITTEE OVER IN
THE SENATE SIDE GOT GOT PRETTY
BADLY DELAYED SO ANYHOW HAPPY TO
TALK ABOUT THE BILL, BUT BUT
IT'S BEEN MOTION IN SECOND HAS
TO DO LEAD BASED PAINT, AND I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR MY VOTE.
YOU WANT ME TO WANT ME TO GIVE
THE FULL PRESENTATION? I'M
SORRY. UH, WE HAVE A MOTION IN
SECOND. OH YOU WANT TO TAKE THE
VOTE NOW, IF THAT'S FINE
PLEASURE. I LOVE IT. ALRIGHT UH
, MADAM SECRETARY CALL THE ROLL
MOTION AND A SECOND Ó. OKAY WE
HAVEN'T ASKED. YEAH. I'M SORRY.
AH! ALRIGHT DO YOU WANT WITH ME
TODAY WE HAVE SUSAN LITTLE FROM
THE ENVIRONMENTAL WORKING GROUP
AND ALSO ON THE PHONE IS LARRY
BROOKS, WHO IS A BOARD MEMBER OF
THE CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION CODE
ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS. GO AHEAD.
THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME
IS SUSAN LITTLE I'M WITH THE
ENVIRONMENTAL WORKING GROUP, ONE
OF THE CO SPONSORS OF SB 10 76.
THIS BILL WILL REQUIRE
CALIFORNIA TO TAKE OVER THE
FEDERAL RENOVATION AND REPAIR
PROGRAM FOR LEAD BASED PAINT.
THAT OF COURSE, IS CURRENTLY
MANAGED BY U. S. C. P A. AND WE
ALL KNOW THAT LEADS HAS VERY
HARMFUL EFFECTS ON CHILDREN AND
ADULTS. BUT OF COURSE, YOUNG
CHILDREN ARE MOST SENSITIVE TO
THE NEUROTOXINS EFFECTS, AND THE
CDC SAYS THERE'S NO SAFE LEVEL
OF LEAD. UM. FOR ANYONE,
CHILDREN, ADULTS AND. CHILDREN
IN PARTICULAR, OR THE STATISTICS
INDICATE THAT LOW INCOME
CHILDREN ARE ARE UM THAT ARE
EXPOSED TO LEAD THAT ARE WHO ARE
LEAD POISONED OR MORE OFTEN FROM
LOW INCOME FAMILIES, AND THIS IS
THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC HEALTH
STATES THAT 88% OF CALIFORNIA'S
LEAD POISONED CHILDREN ARE ON
MEDICAL SO THERE'S AN EVEN
DISTRIBUTION IS IN PART BECAUSE
LOW INCOME CHILDREN ARE MORE
LIKELY TO LIVE IN OLDER HOUSING
THAT HAS CHIPPED OR PEELING LEAD
BASED PINT AND JUST TO CUT TO
THE CHASE. THIS BILL WILL ALLOW
CALIFORNIA TO TAKE OVER THE
RENOVATION REPAIR PROGRAM TO
ENSURE MORE EFFECTIVE AND, UM
MORE EFFECTIVE ENFORCEMENT OF
IT, ESPECIALLY AT THE LOCAL
LEVEL AND WILL HELP PREVENT MORE
CHILDREN FROM GETTING EXPOSED TO
LEAD BASED PAINT. SO WE ARE DRY.
IT'S BOTH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
UM SO NEXT ON THE PHONE. WE HAVE
LARRY BROOKS, BOARD MEMBER OF
THE CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF
CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS. MR
BROOKS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK
UP? YES THANK YOU. HONORABLE
MEMBERS OF THE STM COMMITTEE. I
GREET YOU FROM BEAUTIFUL ALAMEDA
COUNTY. UM AS A CODE ENFORCEMENT
OFFICER AND HEALTHY HOUSING
SPECIALISTS. I AND OTHERS LIKE
ME THROUGHOUT THE STATE
ROUTINELY RECEIVED COMPLAINTS
FROM RESIDENTS REGARDING UNSAFE
AND OFTEN UNLICENSED LABORERS,
PERFORMING RENOVATION OR REPAIR
WORK ON HOMES. IN WHICH THEY
CREATE LEAD PAINT CHIPS AND DUST
DEBRIS THAT CAN BE INHALED BY
ADULTS AND DIRECTLY INGESTED BY
SMALL CHILDREN CRAWLING ON
FLOORS ARE PLAYING IN
CONTAMINATED SOIL. THAT'S THE
INDIVIDUALS CONDUCTING THESE
UNSAFE RENOVATION REPAIR AND
PAINTING JOBS HAVE BEEN KNOWN TO
NOT ONLY POISON THEIR CUSTOMERS
AND NEIGHBORS OF THEIR CUSTOMERS
, BUT EVEN THEMSELVES AND THEIR
OWN CHILDREN. SUCH TRAGEDIES
COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED IF THESE
WORKERS HAD USED LEAD SAFE WORK
PRACTICES TAUGHT IN THE ONE DAY
ONLY EP RENOVATION, REPAIR AND
PAINTING RULE COURSE, ALSO KNOWN
AS R P, WHICH IS OFFERED BY
STATE CERTIFIED CONSTRUCTION
TRAINING PROVIDERS ALL ACROSS
THE STATE. HOWEVER THERE IS A
DEFICIENCY IN THE ENFORCEMENT OF
RP TRAINING, WHICH, THROUGH THE
PASSAGE OF SB 10 76 WILL BE A
HUGE STEP FORWARD IN CORRECTING
THIS. THUS I ASKED FOR YOUR I
VOTE. VERY GOOD. ANYONE IN THE
ROOM WHO WISHES TO SUPPORT THIS
BILL, PLEASE COME FORWARD. AND
NAME ORGANIZATION AND POSITION.
GOOD EVENING. I MEAN, WHAT TIME
IS IT IN THE EVENING, RIGHT? MY
NAME IS TODD ALLEN. I AM THE
LEGISLATIVE CHAIR FOR THE CDP
BLACK CAUCUS, AND WE'RE IN
SUPPORT OF THIS BILL. RIGHT? UM
LET'S SEE ANYONE IN THERE'S NO
PRIMARY OPPOSITION WITNESS
ANYONE IN THE ROOM WHO WISHES TO
SPEAK IN OPPOSITION. THERE BEING
NONE WILL GO TO THE PHONE LINES
AND OPERATOR PLEASE HAVE ANYONE
WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON SP 10 60
10 76 10 76 ARCHULETTA. LEAD
BASED PAINT. PLEASE PUT THEM ON
THE LINE. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO
WISH TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL, PLEASE
PRESS 10. WE'RE GOING TO GO TO
LINE 50. GOOD AFTERNOON, JAROLIM
AYAAN ON BEHALF OF ALAMEDA
COUNTY AND SUPPORT OF THIS BILL.
THANK YOU. BINE 48. HELLO ANDREA
VENTURA WAS CLEAN WATER ACTION
IN SUPPORT. THE FINAL CALL FOR
ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO THIS
BILL. PRESS ONE, THEN ZERO.
THERE WAS NO ONE ELSE TO SIGNAL
THEY WOULD THANK YOU, OPERATOR.
ALRIGHT QUESTIONS. OKAY? UM
LOOKS LIKE YOU MAY CLOSE,
RESPECTFUL. THAT'S RIGHT.
ALRIGHT. OUR COLLEAGUE. AND, UH,
CERTAINLY VERY WORTHWHILE. WE
HAD SEVERAL PEOPLE FROM ALAMEDA
COUNTY BEEN INVOLVED IN THERE.
LEAD PAINT ABATEMENT GOING
AROUND TWO NEIGHBORHOODS,
TESTING THE KIDS WITH THE PIN
PRICK. SEE IF THEY'VE GOT LEAD
IN THEIR BLOOD. SO VERY MUCH
APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE DOING
HERE AND GETTING THE FEDERAL AND
STATE AH, REGULATIONS IN ONE
PLACE WHERE THEY CAN DO SOME
REAL GOOD. SO THANK TRAINING AND
CERTIFICATION AND YEAH, YEAH.
OKAY NOW, MADAM SECRETARY NOW.
THIS IS ITEM NUMBER SEVEN SB 10
76 ARE TWO LETTA. THE MOTION IS
DO PASS AND RE REFERRED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY. QUIRK
QUIRK I SMITH SMITH, I ARAMBULA.
ARAMBULA. AYE, BAUER-KAHAN.
CRISTINA GARCIA. CRISTINA
GARCIA, I MATHIS MATHIS. AYE.
ITEM FOUR SB 10 76 OR TO LET
THEM YES, MATHIS. I MURATSUCHI
MURATSUCHI. AYE. WALDRON.
MCCARTHY. WE HAVE SIX. EXCELLENT
THANK YOU. MEMBERS FOR BOTH OF
THEM. YOU'RE OUT. THANK YOU.
RIGHT? EFFICIENCY. OKAY UH, DR
ARAMBULA. THERE'S SOME. BILLS
YOU CAN ADD ON TO CONSENT AND I
THINK THREE OR FOUR BILLS FOUR
BILLS. CALLING THE ROLL ON ITEM
SEVEN CONSENT CALENDAR. THE VOTE
SITS AT 50. WITH THE CHAIR
VOTING. I ARAMBULA ARAMBULA.
AYE. BAUER-KAHAN WALDRON
MCCARTHY. ITEM NUMBER ONE SB 502
ALLEN. THE VOTE IS AT 50.
ARAMBULA. ARAMBULA. AYE,
BAUER-KAHAN. WALDRON MCCARTHY.
ITEM NUMBER TWO SB 8 91
HERTZBERG. THE VOTE IS AT 41.
CHAIR VOTING. I ARAMBULA.
ARAMBULA. AYE, BAUER-KAHAN.
WALDRON MCCARTHY. ITEM NUMBER
THREE SP 12 54 HERTZBERG AT 50.
ARAMBULA. ARAMBULA. AYE,
BAUER-KAHAN. WALDRON MCCARTHY.
ALL RIGHT.
SO WE HAVE WIENER.
COULD THE SENATE CHECK ON MR
WEINER AND MR NEWMAN AND TO
PRESENT THEIR YOU'VE GOT
INFORMATION FOR US.
YEAH, IT'S. VERY BUSY TIME AND
THE. TWO PRESENTERS ARE
PRESENTING OTHER COMMITTEES, SO
WE'LL WAIT A WHILE.
FOR SURE. YEAH. MM HMM.
THANK YOU, MR CHAIR AND MEMBERS.
THANK YOU FOR THE COMMITTEE
WORKING WITH SENATOR WIENER
STAFF. HE WILL BE AMENDING THE
BILL POST. THE HEARING OF THE
BILL ADVANCES TO DO THE
FOLLOWING TO ELIMINATE THE
EVALUATION OF GRAY WATER
OPPORTUNITIES DUE TO THE UNKNOWN
COST OF SUCH AN EVALUATION. TO
CLARIFY THAT THE REQUIREMENT TO
TAKE ACTIONS IF THERE IS
AVAILABLE FUNDING. DOES NOT
CONSTRAIN THE SCHOOL OR STATE
AGENCIES DISCRETION TO DETERMINE
HOW TO ALLOCATE GENERAL FUNDS OR
FUNDS WITH MULTIPLE PURPOSES. TO
AMEND THE QUALIFIED PERSONNEL
DEFINITIONS TO ENSURE AMPLE
AVAILABLE PERSONNEL. TO
ELIMINATE UPFRONT TESTING
REQUIREMENTS FOR LEGIONELLA AND
TO ADD CLARIFYING LANGUAGE
AND STATE BOARD REGULATION
PROMULGATED. THANK YOU. WITH
THAT I'M HERE TO PRESENT SB 11
44 THE SAFE AND EFFICIENT,
EFFICIENT WATER ACT ON BEHALF OF
SENATOR WIENER. CALIFORNIA IS A
LEADING EXAMPLE FOR THE NATION%
AND WORLD WITH MANY OF OUR
ENVIRONMENTAL POLICIES. HOWEVER
OUR DRINKING WATER REGULATIONS
OFTEN FAILED TO PASS MUSTER.
NOWHERE IS THIS MORE EVIDENT
THAN IN OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS. DATA
COLLECTED IN 2019 AND 2020
SHOWED 53% OF REPORTING SCHOOL
DISTRICTS FOUND LEAD IN AT LEAST
ONE OF THEIR DRINKING WATER
FOUNTAINS ON CAMPUS. SB 11 44
REMEDIES THIS BY REQUIRING ALL
PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND STATE
AGENCIES COMPLETE A WATER
QUALITY ASSESSMENT ON THEIR
FACILITIES, INCLUDING TESTING
FOR LEAD. IF LEAD IS FOUND,
MITIGATION STEPS MUST BE TAKEN,
INCLUDING ADDING FILTERS TO
WATER SOURCES OR REMOVING LEAD
PIPE WHERE APPLICABLE AND WHEN
FUNDING IS AVAILABLE. A MAJOR
REASON FOR CONTAMINATION AT
SCHOOLS AND STATE AGENCIES IS
THE AGE OF BUILDINGS. OLDER
PLUMBING SYSTEMS ARE OFTEN MORE
SUSCEPTIBLE TO POTENTIAL
POLLUTION AND ARE FAR MORE
LIKELY TO CONTAIN SOME PORTION
OF LEAD. ADDITIONALLY THESE OLD
SYSTEMS ARE LIKELY TO BE
INEFFICIENT, EITHER BY LEAKING
AND WASTING POTENTIALLY
THOUSANDS OF GALLONS OF WATER
DRIP BY DRIP. OR BY SIMPLY
UTILIZING EXCESSIVE WATER FOR
THEIR FUNCTIONS COMPARED TO
MODERN FIXTURES AND APPLIANCES.
SB 11 44 WILL REQUIRE SCHOOLS
AND STATE AGENCIES TO TEST FOR
EFFICIENCY, REPLACING ANY
FIXTURES THAT DON'T MEET STATE
WATER EFFICIENCY STANDARDS.
SUBJECT TO AVAILABLE FUNDING.
LASTLY, SB 11 44 REQUIRES WHEN
APPROPRIATE FOR A BUILDING TO
HAVE A LEGIONELLA MANAGEMENT
PLAN. WITH LEGIONELLA CASES
RISING OVER 400% IN THE PAST
DECADE. CALIFORNIA MUST ALIGN
ITSELF WITH THE NATIONAL AND
INTERNATIONAL STANDARDS OF
MANAGING POTENTIALLY RISKY
FIXTURES AND DEVICES SUCH AS
COOLING TOWERS. THIS TESTING AND
MANAGEMENT BOTH OF WATER QUALITY
AND EFFICIENCY ACROSS BUILDINGS
THAT HOUSE OUR YOUTH OR PUBLIC
SERVANTS AND A HOST OF OTHER
CALIFORNIANS. WILL ENSURE THAT
THE STATE IS PROTECTING THE
RIGHT TO CLEAN SAFE WATER AND
HIS CONSERVING THE PRECIOUS
RESOURCE WHERE POSSIBLE. SB 11
44 WILL ENSURE THAT WE DON'T
CONTINUE TO LET UNKNOWN
CONTAMINATION AND WATER WASTE GO
UNCHECKED. WITH ME TODAY, OR
PERHAPS THE ROOT SENIOR
MANAGEMENT AND GOVERNMENT
AFFAIRS AT IDEX WATER AND SCOTT
, WHICH WITH THE STATE PIPE
TRADES COUNCIL. ASKED THAT GO
AHEAD. MR CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS
SCOTT, WHICH ACTUALLY ON BEHALF
OF THE CALIFORNIA STATE PATRIOTS
COUNCIL, AND ALSO THE
INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF
PLUMBING AND MECHANICAL
OFFICIALS. FOR THOSE OF YOU NOT
FAMILIAR WITH THE ATMA. I HAD NO
PUBLISHES THE UNIFORM PLUMBING
AND MECHANICAL CODES, WHICH ARE
THE CODES USED IN CALIFORNIA FOR
ALL OCCUPANCIES, AND THEY ALSO
ARE THE ASSOCIATION THAT
REPRESENTS ALL LOCAL PLUMBING
INSPECTORS IN YOUR CITIES AND
COUNTIES. UM THE SEVEN MEMBER
ARRANGED A DID AN EXCELLENT JOB
DESCRIBING SORT OF THE NEED. I
THINK I'LL JUST GET TO IN THE
AMENDED VERSION OF WHAT THE BILL
DOES AND DOESN'T DO.
SPECIFICALLY IT DOES REQUIRE
THAT STATE BUILDINGS WOULD
REQUIRE TESTING OF THEIR WATER
SYSTEMS AND THAT THEY PUT IN
PLACE A WATER MINUTE AS
ASSESSMENT AND MANAGEMENT PLAN
FOR BOTH DEFICIENCY IN AND FOR
HEALTH PURPOSES. I THINK THERE'S
SOME CONFUSION REGARDING THE
SCHOOLS WITH THE AMENDMENTS THAT
THE AUTHOR HAS ACCEPTED. AND
THANK YOU, MR CHAIRMAN AND YOUR
STAFF FOR WORKING WITH US. THIS
BILL WOULD NO LONGER REQUIRE ANY
TESTING FOR LEGIONELLA AT
SCHOOLS, AND IT WOULDN'T REQUIRE
TESTING FOR LEAD, EITHER BECAUSE
IN 2000 AND 17, THE LEGISLATURE
PASSED A B 7 46 BY LORENA
GONZALEZ, WHICH REQUIRED THAT
ALL SCHOOLS THAT HAD LED MEANING
SCHOOLS THAT PREDATED 2000 AND
10 WHEN LEAD WAS STILL BEING PUT
IN SCHOOLS. SHOULD HAVE ALREADY
BEEN TESTED. UM SO THIS BILL
DOES NOT DUPLICATE THAT WHAT IT
REQUIRES IS AND WHERE THE
DEFICIENCY WAS IN THE GONZALEZ
BILL WAS THAT IT DIDN'T REQUIRE
ANY SORT OF SPECIFIED ACTION
PLAN IF IN FACT LEAD WAS FOUND.
SO WHAT THIS BILL DOES IS
REQUIRE SCHOOL DISTRICTS TO PUT
TOGETHER A, UH, A AN ASSESSMENT
AND A MITIGATION PLAN TO DEAL
WITH ANY FINDINGS OF LEAD IN IN
PIPE. AND THEN REQUIRES
REMEDIATION ONLY. WHEN FUNDS ARE
MADE AVAILABLE, AND THE
AMENDMENT ACCEPTED BY THE AUTHOR
SUGGESTED BY THE CHAIR MAKES IT
CLEAR THAT WE'RE NOT TALKING
ABOUT SCHOOLS GENERAL FUNDS. BUT
IF THERE'S MONEY SPECIFICALLY
SET ASIDE FOR THIS PURPOSE IN
2020 THE LEGISLATURE PATH TO
BUILD THAT WE SPONSORED A B 8 41
BY SIMILAR MEMBER TING THAT
CREATED A FUND AT THE ENERGY
COMMISSION OF $65 MILLION A YEAR
SPECIFICALLY FOR SCHOOLS TO USE
FOR REPLACEMENT. OF WATER
FIXTURES IN SCHOOLS THAT ARE
FOUND TO HAVE LED UM. IN
ADDITION TO THAT, WHAT WOULD
WITH 11 44 DOES IS THAT WHEN
SCHOOLS PUT TOGETHER THESE
ASSESSMENT AND MITIGATION PLANS
THAT THEY DO MEET THE MOST UP TO
DATE? NATIONAL STANDARDS
REGARDING WATER QUALITY, WHICH
ARE ASHTRAY 1 88, WHICH WOULD
WHICH WOULD INCLUDE STANDARD
THAT STANDARDS ARE MET IN REGARD
TO LEGIONELLA, SO IT DOESN'T
REQUIRE TESTING LEGIONELLA, BUT
IT REQUIRES THAT THESE
MANAGEMENT PLANS, UH, ADDRESS
LEGIONELLA TO THE SAME STANDARDS
THAT HAVE NOW BEEN SET
NATIONALLY. UM I JUST REMIND
FOLKS THAT LEGIONELLA IS ON THE
RISE AND THAT ONE IN EVERY 10
PEOPLE WHO ARE INFECTED WITH
LEGIONELLA ACTUALLY PERISH FROM
IT. SO IT'S A VERY SERIOUS
DISEASE WITH ME IS TOM INSEL.
OH, WHO WILL BE HIS A TECHNICAL
EXPERT FROM MY ATMA, WHO'S HERE
TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS? THANK
YOU, MR CHAIRMAN. UH THANK YOU.
ALRIGHT. PHONE MODERATOR, UM.
PATSY ROUTE IS SENIOR MANAGER OF
GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS AT IDEX WATER
. UM MISS ROUTE, PLEASE SPEAK
UP. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR
CHAIR AND GOOD AFTERNOON TO
EVERYONE IN FOR ALLOWING ME TO%
SPEAK. MY NAME IS PATSY ROUTE
AND AS HE STATED, I AM THE
SENIOR MANAGER OF GOVERNMENT
AFFAIRS THAT THAT'S WATER. I
HAVE 15 YEARS, EXPERIENCE AND
WATER QUALITY, AND I'M ACTUALLY
ONE OF THE ORIGINAL AUTHOR OF
THE ASHLEY 1 88 STANDARDS THAT'S
CITED IN THIS BILL. WHICH
FOCUSES THE ASHTRAY STANDARD
FOCUSES ON THE CBC ENDORSEMENT
PRACTICES FOR BUILDING WATER
SAFETY TO AVOID LEGIONNAIRES TWO
PIECE WHICH STATISTICS SHOW HIS
MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES,
ESPECIALLY HARD UM, TODAY, I'M
PRODUCING STATE SUPPORT FOR THE
BILL AND OFFER A BIT OF
INFORMATION AND ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS LIKE COVID 19, LEECH
NEAREST DISEASES, SEVERE
RESPIRATORY DISEASE. UM THE
DEATH RATE FROM COVID 19 THAT
WE'VE ALL BEEN PRETTY AWARE OF
IS ABOUT 1.2% WHEREAS THE DEATH
RATE FOR LEGIONNAIRE'S DISEASE
IS UP TO 33. LUCKILY THE CBP AND
OTHERS STATED THAT LEGIONNAIRE'S
DISEASE IS NEARLY ALWAYS
PREVENTABLE IF REASONABLE STEPS
ARE TAKEN TO ENSURE BUILDING
MODERN SYSTEM CONTROL THEIR
RISK. THE NATIONALLY ACCREDITED
STANDARDS THAT WE'VE HEARD ABOUT
ALREADY WAS WRITTEN BY
REPRESENTATIVES THAT IN MYSELF
THAT INCLUDES THE E P A. C D. C
THE COOLING TECHNOLOGY AND TOOT
MðI VETERANS ADMINISTRATION AND
MANY OTHERS. IT'S A COMBINATION
OF LITERALLY HUNDREDS OF YEARS
OF EXPERIENCE. AND CDC PROMOTES
THE IMAGING BUILDING WATER
SYSTEMS, UM, BECAUSE IT'S THE
BEST PERFECTION AND STARTS
PREVENTION AS CLOSE TO THE
POTENTIAL VICTIMS AND THE POINTS
OF EXPOSURE AS POSSIBLE.
FOCUSING ON COOLING TOWERS. UM
IS A REALLY GOOD INITIAL FIRST
STEP FORWARD IN ANY LONG TERM
PLAN. COOLING TOWERS ARE
ACTUALLY THE NUMBER TWO RISK
FACTOR FOR LEGIONNAIRES TO BE,
ACCORDING TO CDC WITH POTABLE
BUILDING WATER BEING THE NUMBER
ONE RISK. UM THE ONLY THING I
WOULD ENCOURAGE INCLUSION ON
WOULD BE ROUTINE TESTING FOR
WATER MANAGEMENT PLANS, WHICH IS
VALIDATION IS REQUIRED. YOU CAN
EITHER WAIT FOR AN
EPIDEMIOLOGIST TO TELL YOU
SOMEONE IS SICK OR YOU CAN TEST
THE WATER. AND MAKE SURE THAT
THAT HAPPENS. WATER TESTING IS
OKAY. UM YOU'VE USED YOUR TIME.
COULD YOU? UM JUST FINISH YES.
JUST SUM IT UP. YEP I STRONGLY
ENCOURAGE YOU TO PASS THE BILL.
IT'S AN IMPORTANT IMPORTANT
INITIAL STEPS TO PROTECT THE
RESIDENTS AND VISITORS IN
CALIFORNIA. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH, UM NOW
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S GARCIA, I
BELIEVE YOU HAD WAIT. I'M SORRY.
NO NOW WE HAVE TO ASK IF ANYONE%
IS IN THE ROOM TO TESTIFY. IN
SUPPORT. GOOD AFTERNOON, MR
CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS MIKE WEST
ON BEHALF OF THE STATE BUILDING
AND CONSTRUCTION TRADES COUNCIL.
ALSO IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON. JB
TANKO, VICE PRESIDENT, STATE
AFFAIRS FOR THE BLUEGREEN
ALLIANCE. WE BRING LABOR
ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS TOGETHER IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT
NOW IT'S UH, LET'S SEE. DO WE
HAVE? ANY UM. TWO PRIMARY
OPPOSITION WITNESSES. ONE IS
HERE IN PERSON. THE OTHER IS
CALLING IN IAN PADILLA.
REPRESENTING THE COALITION FOR
ADEQUATE SCHOOL HOUSING. PLEASE
COME FORWARD. MR CHAIR AND
MEMBERS IAN PADILLA WITH THE
COALITION FOR ADEQUATE SCHOOL
HOUSING. I WILL BE BRIEF. I KNOW
I HAVE TWO MINUTES AND THEN WE
HAVE ANOTHER PERSON. SO AGAIN E
IN TODAY WITH COALITION FOR
ADEQUATE SCHOOL, HOUSING AND
CASH. IS ALSO A PART OF A
COALITION OF OTHER SCHOOLS AND
SCHOOL ORGANIZATIONS THAT ALSO
OPPOSED THE BILL. UM WE HAVE
WORKED WITH THE SPONSORS
CONTINUE DOING SO, BUT WE REMAIN
OPPOSED. EVEN GIVEN THE GIVEN
THE AMENDMENTS. WE ARE STILL
CONCERNED ABOUT THE COST IMPACT
. UH FUTURE FUNDING. UH AND WE
APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION,
BUT IT MAKES US WE DON'T KNOW
EXACTLY HOW TO PLAN IT SEEMS A
LITTLE BIT BACKWARDS. AH TO US
SO. QUICKLY WE TALKED A LITTLE
BIT ABOUT SEVEN. MAYBE 7 46
SCHOOLS HAVE TESTED THEIR FOR
LEAD UNDER THAT. WE KNOW THAT.
UM BUT THEY'VE ALSO AS FUNDING
HAS BEEN AVAILABLE FIXED IT.
USED FILTERS. DECOMMISSIONED
WHEN NO FUNDING WAS AVAILABLE,
SO I WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT.
ALSO SCHOOLS ARE REQUIRED TO DO
AN ANNUAL BUILDING ASSESSMENT.
UH, BUILDING ASSESSMENTS UNDER
THE WILLIAMS. INSPECTIONS THAT
ALSO LOOKS AT THOSE SO THERE
COULD BE THINGS TO BUILD ON 7 46
BUT FOR SCHOOLS WHEN WE DO WE DO
THAT TESTING, THAT'S THAT'S A
SERIOUS THING. WE HAVE THE
COMMUNITY WATCHING US. SO WE'RE
YOU KNOW, THERE'S A ACTION IS
TAKEN. UM I WOULD SAY THAT
SCHOOL'S APPROACH IT FROM MORE
OF A WATER QUALITY PERSPECTIVE.
THIS WE THINK THIS APPROACH, UH
, TEST THE BUILDING MATERIALS.
WE THINK THAT'S BACKWARDS. UH UM
. AND SO THAT'S WHY WE THINK
THAT THE WATER AGENCIES AS HAS
BEEN SUGGESTED, AND DISCUSSED BE
MORE MORE INVOLVED IN THIS. UM
OUR PRIMARY. I THINK A PROBLEM
IS THAT IT'S A HUGE BILL. IT'S
REALLY MAYBE FOUR BILLS. UH THE
ASSESSMENT PIECE OF IT THAT THE
TESTING UH WHAT? WHAT ABOUT SO.
UM THE MITIGATION PIECE. WE KNOW
THERE'S COST ASSOCIATED WITH
WITH ASSESSMENTS, AND WE CAN
TALK ABOUT YOUR TWO MINUTES ARE
UP. YOU WANT TO JUST SUM UP?
YES, I WILL. YES, I WILL. THANK
YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO
ADDRESS YOU. WE ARE. WE THINK
THE COMMUNITY ANALYSIS BRINGS UP
GOOD POINTS. WE KNOW THE
COMMITTEE HAS DISCUSSED
AMENDMENTS. UH WE DO REMAIN THE
POST, BUT WE WOULD HEAR ADDRESS
TECHNICAL QUESTIONS AND CONTINUE
TO WORK ON THE BILL. THANK YOU.
VERY GOOD, AND NOW WE HAVE ON
THE PHONE LINE. DR HUNG CHUNG.
BOARD MEMBER OF THE ALLIANCE TO
PREVENT LEGIONNAIRE'S DISEASE.
MR. CHUNG, COULD YOU SPEAK UP?
YES GOOD AFTERNOON. THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS DR HUNG SHANG. I AM A
PHYSICIAN WHO'S BOARD CERTIFIED
IN PREVENTIVE MEDICINE AND
INTERNAL MEDICINE. I'M A
PROFESSOR AT THE UNIVERSITY OF
PENNSYLVANIA PERLMAN SCHOOL OF
MEDICINE AND FACULTY AT JOHNS
HOPKINS BLOOMBERG SCHOOL OF
PUBLIC HEALTH. FORMERLY I WAS
ALSO THE MEDICAL DIRECTOR FOR
THE STATE OF MARYLAND. I HAVE
STRONG EXPERIENCE AND EXPERTISE
IN WATERBORNE PATHOGENS AND
DISEASES. THANK YOU FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE COMMENTS.
TODAY REGARDING SB ALONG 44. WE
WOULD LIKE TO FIRST RECOGNIZE
SENATOR WEINER AND HIS GOOD
INTENTIONS TO TRY TO ADDRESS THE
WATER QUALITY ISSUES.
UNFORTUNATELY, THE BILL'S
PROVISIONS RELATED TO LEGIONELLA
, THE WATERBORNE BACTERIA THAT
CAUSES LEGIONNAIRE'S DISEASE
WILL NOT HAVE THE INTENDED
IMPACT THAT AND WE'RE ASKING
THAT THIS APPROACH BE RECONSIDER
. MY COMMENTS TODAY WILL FOCUS
ON THE FOLLOWING THREE POINT
FIRST TO PREVENT LEGIONNAIRE'S
DISEASE. WE MUST FOCUS ON
TREATING IT AT THE SOURCE AS A
WATER QUALITY ISSUES FIRST AND
FOREMOST. OTHERWISE WATER
ENTERING OUR HOMES AND
WORKPLACES CAN FEED OUR DRINKING
WATER AND ALL WATER USING
DEVICES DOWNSTREAM WITH
LEGIONELLA. BASED ON MY
EXPERIENCE, AND MANY OF MY
COLLEAGUES WHO INVESTIGATE AND
REMEDIATE LEGIONELLA
CONTAMINATION. EVEN IF YOU
INSTITUTE THE BEST WATER QUALITY
PROGRAM OR WHAT WATER MANAGEMENT
PROGRAM OR EVEN ADD A SECONDARY
DISINFECTION SYSTEM. THEY CAN BE
OVERWHELMED WITH LEGIONELLA
BACTERIA ENTERING THE BUILDINGS
FROM CONTAMINATED SOURCE. WATER.
SECOND. PROPONENTS HAVE SAID THE
BILL FOLLOWS ASHTRAY 1 88
LEGIONELLA STANDARDS FOR
BUILDINGS. BUT IN ACTUALITY
DEVIATES FROM 1 88, UNDERMINING
ITS EFFECTIVENESS. 1 88 IS THE
LEADING NATIONAL STANDARD
DEVELOPED BY EXPERTS IN THE
FIELD. AT 11 44 DEVIATES BY
REQUIRING TESTING WHICH I
UNDERSTAND. OKAY TIME IS UP AND
PLEASE, UH, JUST SOMETHING'S UP.
THANK YOU. VERY GOOD AND. AND IN
. FINALLY WE ASKED FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH SENATOR
WEINER AND RELEVANT STAKEHOLDERS
PURSUING A HOLISTIC APPROACH,
WHICH PRIORITIZES WATER QUALITY
AND FOLLOWS THE DATA AND FOLLOWS
THE SCIENCE. SINCE THIS
LEGISLATION HAS WRITTEN DOES NOT
OKAY, THAT'S THAT'S FINE. THANK
YOU. I'M SURE THE SENATOR WILL
WORK WITH YOU. UM WE ALWAYS DO.
THE HAPPIEST THING WE CAN EVER
SAY IS WHEN WE PRESENT A BILL ON
THE FLOOR IS ALL OPPOSITION HAS
BEEN REMOVED, SO I'M SURE HE
WILL WORK WITH YOU. I KNOW HIM
WELL. UM SO THOSE IN THE ROOM
WHO ARE OPPOSED. PLEASE COME
FORWARD. GOOD AFTERNOON, MR
CHAIR AND MEMBERS DOROTHY
JOHNSON WITH THE ASSOCIATION OF
CALIFORNIA SCHOOL ADMINISTRATORS
OPPOSED. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR AND
MEMBERS JEFF BOCK, REPRESENTING
THE RIVERSIDE COUNTY
SUPERINTENDENT OF SCHOOLS AND
ALSO TODAY, SPEAKING ON BEHALF
OF THE CALIFORNIA SCHOOL BOARDS
ASSOCIATION AND OPPOSITION. GOOD
AFTERNOON, REBECCA CURLY ON
BEHALF OF THE COUNTY SCHOOL
FACILITIES CONSORTIUM IN
OPPOSITION. GOOD AFTERNOON,
SASHA HORWITZ WITH THE LOS
ANGELES UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT
IN OPPOSITION. VERY GOOD. UM SO,
UH, ON THE PHONE LINE SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION. TO DR WIENER. MR
WIENER SENATOR WINNERS. BILL SB
11 44, WHETHER EFFICIENCY AND
QUALITY. ASSESSMENT REPORTS.
PLEASE GO FORWARD. THANK YOU, MR
CHAIR FOR THOSE WHO WISH TO
SPEAK IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION
TO THIS BILL, PLEASE PRESS ONE
THAN ZERO ON YOUR PHONE. WE'RE
GOING TO GO TO LINE 50. GOOD
AFTERNOON. YEAH REALLY MAGADAN
ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
WATER ASSOCIATION AND SUPPORT OF
SB 11 44. THANK YOU. LINE 56.
AYE TIFFANY MARK FROM C F T, A
UNION OF EDUCATORS AND
CLASSIFIED PROFESSIONALS IN
SUPPORT. LINE 61. KIND OF GOOD
AFTERNOON CHAIR MEMBERS A LITTLE
BIT OF SCOVEL, WHETHER
CALIFORNIAASSOCIATION OF
BUSINESS OFFICIALS IN OPPOSITION
TO SB 11 44. THANK YOU. LINE 40.
THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN. COURT KEN
MORTENSEN KILLING TECHNOLOGY
INSTITUTE IN OPPOSITION OF THE
BILL. THANK YOU. BINE 57. TÌM.
STILL AALIYAH WAS ENVIRONMENTAL
WORKING GROUP. WE HAD A LETTER
IN LATE OPPOSED MUST AMEND IT,
BUT I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED
BECAUSE I THINK I HEARD THE
REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE AUTHOR,
AND THE SPONSORS SAY THAT THE
LEGIONNAIRES ISSUE IS OUT OF THE
BILL. SO WE WOULD REMOVEOUR
OPPOSITION UNLESS AMENDED
BECAUSE THAT'S PURELY WHAT IT
WAS ABOUT. I THINK THERE NOW
GOOD PART. SO THE. RIGHT NOW.
IT'S IN THE BILL. AND IT'S BEEN
MODIFIED. SO I SUGGEST THAT YOU
TAKE A LOOK AT IT. THANK YOU. AT
THE REVISED BILL, WHICH WILL THE
AMENDMENTS WILL BE TAKEN IN A
WEEK OR SO. AH! FINE. PLEASE GO
AHEAD, 48. HI ANDREA VENTURA. WE
ALSO WE HAVE NOT YET TAKEN A
POSITION ON THE BILL ARE
CONCERNED WAS THE EFFICACY OF
HOW IT WAS ADDRESSING THE
LEGIONNAIRES DISEASE. AND WE%
WILL LOOK AT THE BILL WHEN IT
REVISED. THANK YOU. FINAL CALL
FOR ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK
IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION OF THIS
BILL, PLEASE PRESS ONE THAN
ZERO. THERE IS NO ONE ELSE TO
SIGNAL THAT THEY WISH TO SPEAK.
ALL RIGHT. UM LET'S SEE.
CHRISTINA HAD. ABOUT HIS. HE HAS
A CONCERN. ALL RIGHT, GO AHEAD.
THANK YOU. IF I MAY I WITH THE
CHAIRS, PERMISSION. I'D LIKE TO
DIRECT QUESTIONS TO THE AXA
REPRESENTATIVE. SURE. SO, UM WE?
WE. HEARD THE TESTIMONY ABOUT
HOW, UH, A B 7 46 ALREADY DOES
REQUIRE ALL SCHOOLS TO TEST
WATER FOUNTAINS AND FAUCETS FOR
ELEVATED LEAD LEVELS. THE
AMENDMENTS WERE TAKEN. WHY ARE
THE AMENDMENTS INADEQUATE TO
REMOVE YOUR OPPOSITION?
REGRETTABLY, WE HAVE NOT SEEN
THE FULL LANGUAGE OF THE
AMENDMENTS ARE IN CONCEPT RIGHT
NOW. SO WE HAVE A HARD TIME
BEING ABLE TO ACCEPT THEM
WITHOUT SEEING THE ACTUAL
LANGUAGE. UH WE HAVE A CONCERN
WITH THIS BILL, AND I'LL KEEP IT
SHORT. IT'S A IT'S A BACKWARDS
APPROACH. WE'RE TESTING BUILDING
MATERIALS WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT
WATER QUALITY AND IN ADDITION TO
THE NUMEROUS OTHER CONCERNS FOR
GETTING AROUND THE EDGES WITH
THESE AMENDMENTS, BUT WE'RE NOT
SPEAKING TO THE HEART OF THE
ISSUE. ALL RIGHT. SO JUST TO
MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND YOU
WE SHOULD BE FOCUSED ON TESTING
THE WATER AND NOT TESTING THE
PIPES. CORRECT IN SOME WAYS, THE
BUILDING MATERIALS WILL NOT
INDICATE NECESSARILY THE WATER
QUALITY COMING OUT, AND WE
SHOULD ALSO BE TESTING AT THE
SOURCE OF THE WATER AGENCIES.
OKAY, UM. WOULD YOU LIKE ONE OF
YOUR EXPERTS TO SAY SOMETHING
ABOUT THE BILL? SOME OF THE
MIRROR SOUCI? UH THE BILL. WE'RE
NOT REQUIRING ANY TESTING OF
SCHOOL WATER SYSTEMS AT ALL THAT
WAS DONE IN THE GONZALES. BILL.
WE'VE WE'VE CLARIFIED THAT. IT
JUST REQUIRES A MITIGATION PLANS
SO IF THE DATA FROM THE PREVIOUS
TESTS SHOWED THAT THERE WAS
HIGHER THAN ACCEPTABLE LEVELS OF
LEAD, THEY HAVE TO PUT TOGETHER
A MITIGATION PLAN ON HOW THEY'RE
GOING TO MITIGATE FOR THAT, AND
THEN WHEN FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE,
AND ONLY IF FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE
SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS PURPOSE.
DO THEY NEED TO DO ANY SORT OF
REMEDIATION NOW? I HEARD THAT
PART EARLIER BUT THE COMMITTEE
ANALYSIS. UH SUMMARIZES A B 7 46
AS REQUIRING THE USE OF THE
FOUNDER OF FAUCET UNTIL THE
ELEVATED LEAD LEVEL WAS
MITIGATED. UM ASSUMING AH. THE
AMENDMENTS ARE REFLECTED IN WHAT
MR WATTS INDICATED. DOES THAT
SOUND LIKE THAT WOULD BE
ADEQUATE FOR THE SCHOOL? AH
OPPOSITION TO BE REMOVED. THAT
IS ONE OF MANY, MANY ISSUES WE
HAVE WITH THIS BILL.
UNFORTUNATELY THAT I THINK WOULD
PERSIST DESPITE THIS NARROW
APPROACH OR THIS NARROW SOLUTION
BEING APPLIED TO THAT ONE
SPECIFIC AREA, OKAY? GOOD WELL,
THIS WILL BE HEARD IN EDUCATION
. AND UH, I SUGGEST YOU TALK
WITH THE EDUCATION COMMITTEE. WE
ARE WHEREAS A COMMITTEE HAVE
DONE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, AND
SO THE NEXT MR CHAIR WITHOUT DUE
RESPECT, I'M TRYING TO GET AT
THE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY
DIMENSION OF THE WATER AND,
YEAH, IF I COULD REFER TO MY
COLLEAGUE WITH CASH, WHO HAS
EXPERTISE ON THAT 7 46 ON ABC, 7
46. WELL, MY QUESTION IS MORE
YOU KNOW, ASSUMING THAT. THIS
BILL IS NOW TRYING TO ADDRESS
THE MITIGATION ASPECT OF IT. IF
FUNDING IS AVAILABLE, THEN WHY?
AH, YOU KNOW WHAT ARE THE
REMAINING CONCERNS? IN TERMS OF
THE SCHOOL. THE SCHOOL
REPRESENTATIVES. SURE SO EVEN IF
FUNDING IS AVAILABLE, WE'RE
CONCERNED THAT THAT WOULD
DETRACT FROM THE BACKLOG OF NEED
AND THE FUTURE NEED FOR SCHOOL
FACILITIES. IT IS NOT CLEAR TO
US THAT THIS PROVIDES A
NECESSARY SOLUTION TO AN
EXISTING PROBLEM, AND WE ARE
CONCERNED THAT IF AND WHEN A
BOND IS PASSED IF AND WHEN
ADDITIONAL FEDERAL FUNDS ARE
PASSED IF GENERAL FUNDS ARE
ALLOCATED THOSE DOLLARS WOULD BE
BETTER SPENT ON EXISTING NEEDS
THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED, AND
THIS WOULD UNFORTUNATELY DRAIN
AWAY FROM OUR SCHOOL FACILITIES
FOR THEIR SAFETY, FURTHER
UPGRADES AND NEW CONSTRUCTION.
NOT WE TOOK THE BILL. AND WE'VE
TRIED TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR.
THAT IS MONEY ONLY FOR THIS
PURPOSE IF YOU WANT TO TAKE A
LOOK AT THE LANGUAGE AS IT IS
DEVELOPED THEN FINE. AND THEN I
HOPE YOU WILL EITHER HELP US.
BUT THE INTENTION WAS THIS IS
STRICTLY MONEY. AND THERE WILL
BE FEDERAL MONEY COMING ON. IF
THE BILL IS PASSED IN CONGRESS,
THERE'LL BE STATE MONEY AT SOME
POINT. THERE ALREADY IS STATE
MONEY TO DO THIS, AND THAT IS
THE INTENTION OF THE AUTHOR. SO
AND THIS IS AN AUTHOR WHO I
REALLY TRUST. SO PLEASE, JUST I
THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO.
THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE A
LOOK AT THE LANGUAGE. WE WOULD
CERTAINLY VERY MUCH APPRECIATE
YOUR LOOK AT THAT. AND AGAIN. WE
THE WHOLE POINT HERE. WAS THAT
WE DON'T WANT TO IMPACT THE
GENERAL FIVE. PERIOD. AND THAT'S
VERY IMPORTANT TO ME. I KNOW
IT'S IMPORTANT TO THE PEOPLE IN
EDUCATION. COMMITTEE WHICH WILL
BE GOING TO NEXT, SO THAT'S WHAT
WE'VE TRIED TO DO. AND I THINK
WE'VE SUCCEEDED. AND IF YOU HAVE
A TWEAK IN THE LANGUAGE REGARD
TO I'M SURE THEY CAN BE RESOLVED
IN THE EDUCATION COMMITTEE AS WE
FINISHED THE BILL HERE BUT I DO
WANT TO GET ON TO OTHER
QUESTIONS AND RIGHT NOW. I DON'T
THINK THERE'S A WAY TO RESOLVE
WHAT YOU'RE DOING UNTIL YOU SEE
THE LANGUAGE, SO I JUST AS SOON
GO INTO OTHER QUESTIONS. AND
THIS IS THE ESTEEMED AUTHOR WHO
I WHO I WOULD TRUST WITH MY LIFE
AND AAIN. OUR WHOLE POINT IS TO
SOLVE THE PROBLEM THAT YOU HAVE
BROUGHT UP AND I AM SURE HE WILL
WORK WITH YOU. AND IF YOU NEED
TO TWEAK THE LANGUAGE LET HIM
KNOW AND THAT CAN BE RESOLVED IN
THE EDUCATION COMMITTEE. BUT I
THINK WE HAVE RESOLVED AND IF WE
HAVEN'T, THEN YOU CAN WORK ON
IT. SO. I WOULD LIKE TO GO TO
OTHER QUESTIONS, AND I KNOW
CRISTINA GARCIA ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. YEAH THANK
YOU. UM I SHARE THE CONCERN
ABOUT LEAD OR JUST TOXICS AND
GENERAL AND IN OUR WATER FOR
EVERYONE AND CHILDREN IN
PARTICULAR. WE KNOW IT'S REALLY
BAD AS THEY'RE DEVELOPING AND TO
BE EXPOSED TO LEAD AND I'VE SEEN
SOME OF THE WORK THAT HAS
RESULTED FROM HIS GONZALEZ'S
SPILL AND APPRECIATIVE OF THAT,
AND I THINK YOU KNOW, WE
REALIZED THAT WE DO WORK AND
OFTEN TIMES WE NEED TO DO MORE
WORK. WHICH IS WHERE I THINK MR
WEINER IS COMING FROM, UM WHAT?
THIS BILL? UH AND I APPRECIATE
THE SET OF AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE
BEEN AGREED TO TODAY AS WE
CONTINUE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO
CREATE A BETTER PRODUCT. HERE,
BUT UM, TWO THINGS ON. ON THE
LANGUAGE RIGHT NOW, IT SAYS WHEN
FUN IF FUNDING IS AVAILABLE WITH
THE BIGLY FOR THIS, AND THERE'S
SOME FUNDING IN THE STATE,
HOPEFULLY SOME FUNDING FROM THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. WE SEE SOME
FUNDING FOR LITERACY OFFICALLY,
EVEN FOR MUNICIPAL UH, SMALLER
MUNICIPAL, UM, WATER PIPES AS
WELL. AND SO WE KNOW IT'S A
PRIORITY FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT
FOLKS MOVING OUT THERE. WE HAVE
THIS PART OF 65 YEAR THAT MR
SWITCH UM, DIDN'T MENTION BUT
IT'S GOING TO TAKE US 123 YEARS
IF THE PRICE TAG OF EIGHT
BILLION, ACCORDING TO YOUR
OPPOSITION LETTER IS TRUE TO
HAVE ENOUGH TO CLEAN THAT UP, SO
IT'S NOT AN ADEQUATE. IT'S A
GOOD STARTING POINT. AND I DON'T
WANT TO NOT BECAUSE I'VE DONE
STUFF LIKE THAT WHERE I STARTED.
THEN I FIGURE OUT HOW TO BUILD
ON THAT. BUT I THINK ONE OF THE
ISSUES THAT WE HAVE HERE IS THAT
WHILE IT DOESN'T SAY THAT THIS
HAS TO BE A PRIORITY WITH YOUR
OTHER DOLLARS. THE FACT THAT WE
HAVE TO PUT A DISCLAIMER OUT
THERE, UH, THAT THERE ARE STILL
LEAD PIPES. EVEN IF OUR QUALITY
WATER QUALITY IS OKAY, AND THOSE
FOUNTAINS IS GOING TO GET
PARENTS WORKED UP AND WORRIED.
AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE RIGHTFULLY
SO ON THAT SHOW, BUT BY DEFAULT,
IT CREATES THIS AND WHO'S THIS
TO THE FRONT OF THE LINE? CAUSE
WE WANT TO BE RESPONSIVE THERE
OVER OTHER THINGS. AND SO I DO
THINK THAT THAT DISCLOSURE, UH,
LEADS TO A PRIORITIZATION OF
SORT FOR THIS, AND I'VE SEEN IT
WITH OTHER BILLS I'VE DONE WHERE
I HAVE ALSO HAVE DISCLOSURES ON
PURPOSE AROUND PEOPLE'S AND THAT
HAS BECOME A PRIORITY STATION
NOW WITH MY WATER. PROVIDERS IN
MY DISTRICT OVER OTHER THINGS
OUT THERE, AND SO I THINK THAT'S
THAT PIECE OF THE BILL THAT BY
DEFAULT, CREATIVE PRIORITIZATION
AROUND THIS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF
IT SHOULD OR SHOULDN'T BE. MAYBE
IT SHOULD BE. IN ALL FAIRNESS.
I'M ASKING MYSELF THAT QUESTION
AS I'M STRUGGLING WITH THIS BILL
RIGHT NOW. AH I AM GOING TO VOTE
FOR THIS BILL, THOUGH, BECAUSE
LET US THE REAL ISSUE. IT'S A
REAL ISSUE IN MY DISTRICT, AND I
THINK IT WOULD BE DISINGENUOUS.
GIVEN MY WORK I'VE DONE HERE NOT
TO VOTE FOR THIS BILL. BUT I DO
HOPE AS THIS GOES TO EDUCATION,
AND MAYBE TODAY CAN START
TALKING ABOUT THAT. HE ALSO
WONDER IF THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE
DISTRICTS THAT DON'T HAVE THE
MONEY TO HAVE PARENTS WHO ARE
GONNA BE FREAKING OUT. AND WE
CAN PRIORITIZE THAT IN LIKE THAT
DOESN'T LOOK VERY GOOD, EITHER,
ESPECIALLY IN LONG TERM
COMMUNITIES LIKE MINE WHERE
PEOPLE ALREADY FEEL PRETTY
DISSOLUTION AND THE MORAL IZED
BY THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS AND US
OUT THERE, AND WE'RE NOT
STRAIGHT UP TO THE POST AND SO
FORTH. AND SO I THINK YOU KNOW,
THERE IS SOME DANGER IN IN IN
THAT PIECE OF THE VILLA AT THIS
POINT. UM, THANK YOU. AND THAT.
THE DISCLAIMER OR THE SIGN.
WHATEVER IT IS, IT'S NOT
SOMETHING WE TOOK UP HERE, BUT
CERTAINLY COULD BE TAKEN UP IN
EDUCATION. UM SO OTHER
QUESTIONS, COMMENTS. THAT'S
TRUE. SURE UM, WELL, WHY DON'T
YOU ANSWER SOME OF THESE
QUESTIONS IN YOUR CLOTHES? OKAY
I'D LIKE TO. NOW THAT I SEE.
TALK WITH GOD. IT SURE UM SO,
SENATOR WIENER I BEFORE YOU
ARRIVED. UM I WAS. ASKING MY
PRIMARY CONCERN IS WITH THE THIS
SCHOOL OPPOSITION. UH AND THE
CONCERN ABOUT HOW THIS COULDN'T. TAKE YOU KNOW, LIMITED
RESOURCES THAT ARE DESPERATELY
NEEDED FOR OTHER SCHOOL FACILITY
NEEDS. UM AND THE COMMITTEE
ANALYSIS INDICATES THAT A B 7
46. YOU KNOW? TAKES THE APPROACH
OF TESTING THE WATER. RATHER
THAN LOOKING AT. NONCOMPLIANT
PUBLIC PLUMBING FIXTURES AND NON
COMPLIANT APPLIANCES. TO TRY TO
HAVE A MORE TARGETED, UH,
APPROACH SO THAT WE CAN USE OUR
LIMITED EDUCATION SCORE FACILITY
DOLLARS MORE EFFICIENTLY. WHY DO
YOU THINK IT'S NECESSARY THAT WE
CO CONDUCT AN INVENTORY OF ALL
NONCOMPLIANT PLUMBING FIXTURES
IN NONCOMPLIANT APPLIANCES IN
ALL OF OUR SCHOOLS, RATHER THAN
FOCUSING ON TESTING THE WATER. I
THINK IT'S IN ALL OF THE ABOVE
APPROACH AND WE SAW THIS WITH
THE LEGION OF THE OPPOSITION TO
THE LEGIONELLA PIECE. IT'S THE
WATER SYSTEM. WELL, IT'S THE
WATER SYSTEM. IT'S ALSO THE
PLUMBING SYSTEM. IT'S ALL OF IT.
AND IF THAT'S A POTENTIAL SOURCE
, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR BEING
LATE, I WAS STUCK IN ANOTHER
COMMITTEE. OR BELIEVE ME, I
WOULD HAVE ABSOLUTELY BEEN HERE,
SO I'M SORRY IF I'M MISSING SOME
OF THE DISCUSSION. IT WAS HAD
BEFORE. UM BUT RIGHT AND I AGREE
IT IS. THERE IS A RESOURCE ISSUE
HERE. I MEAN, THIS IS WHY WHEN
WE TALK ABOUT THE BUDGET, WHY
HAVE ISSUES WITH UM $12 BILLION
BASED ON HOW MANY CARS PEOPLE
AN. BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY
ISSUES, INCLUDING IN OUR SCHOOLS
THAT WE NEED TO BE INVESTING IN
. AND I THINK THE REASON WHY
WE'VE STRUCTURED THIS IN A WAY
THAT WE'RE NOT JUST MANDATING.
YOU HAVE TO, YOU KNOW,
IMMEDIATELY FIX IT. ONE FUNDING
IS AVAILABLE AND WE PUT IN. AND
WE APPRECIATE THE COMMITTEE'S
AMENDMENT THAT WE'RE GOING TO
PUT INTO THE BILL ABOUT MAKING
CLEAR THAT WE'RE NOT JUST SAYING
THIS GOES IMMEDIATELY TO THE
FRONT OF THE LINE. AH THAT THAT
YOU KNOW, WE AT LEAST SHOULD
KNOW. AND SO IT CAN GO. ONTO
THAT LIST OF THINGS THAT THEY
KNOW NEEDS TO HAPPEN EVEN IF IT
DOESN'T HAPPEN RIGHT AWAY, BUT I
THINK THE PIPES ARE PART OF US.
BUT IF THE WATER IS BEING TESTED
IN THE WATER IS NOT A PROBLEM.
WHY DO WE NEED TO FIX? REPLACE
THE PLUMBING AND THE FIXTURES.
YOU'RE SAYING IF THE IF THE
FIXTURE IS SHOWING TO BE
CONTAMINATED OR A B 7 46 ALREADY
REQUIRES ALL SCHOOLS, TEST WATER
FOUNTAINS AND FAUCETS FOR
ELEVATED LEAD LEVELS. IF THERE
IS NOT A PROBLEM WITH THE WATER
THEN WHY DO WE NEED TO CHANGE
THE PIPES? WITH YOUR. COMENZÓ
WITHOUT. SO WHAT? THIS BILL DOES
. IT DOES TWO THINGS FOR THE
PIPES. YOU KNOW IF IT'S HAS
THERE'S LEAD IN THE WATER. WE
WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S BEING
MEDIATED BY FILTERS OR REPLACING
THE PIPE. IF IT HAS OLD, THAT
PIPE PRE 1986 LEAD PIPE. THAT'S
THE OLD PIPE THAT HAS, LIKE 101
100% LEAD, NOT TALKING ABOUT THE
PIPE THAT JUST AS THE NEW REPORT
THAT 8% 100% LEAD PIPE IN THE
BUILDING THAT STUFF NEEDS TO GET
TAKEN OUT IN THE LONG TERM, SO
NO FILTER IS ONLY A SHORT TERM.
UM MITIGATION FOR THAT, YOU
KNOW, 100% LEAD PIPE IN THE
BUILDING. IT'S GONNA CLOG UP THE
FILTERS IS GONNA REQUIRE MORE
MAINTENANCE AND PEOPLE ARE GOING
TO EVENTUALLY SOMEONE'S GOING TO
BE DRINKING OUT OF FAUCETS THAT
AREN'T THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO.
SO THAT'S WHY WE ADDRESSED
TECHNICAL AND I JUST MENTIONED
THIS 100% LEAD PIPE IS PIPE THAT
HAS NOT BEEN ALLOWED IN ANY
OCCUPANCY FOR DECADES. BUT WE
STILL FIND IT IN OUR SCHOOLS.
OKAY? I'LL TELL YOU FLINT,
MICHIGAN. THEY HAD LEAD PIPE.
THAT WAS JUST FINE. AND THEN
THEY CHANGED THE WATER SYSTEM SO
THAT THE WATER WAS MORE ACIDIC.
THAT SHOULD NEVER HAVE HAPPENED,
BUT IT DID. AND THEN THAT'S WHEN
THE LEAD PIPE COST PROBLEM SO
YOU CAN ALWAYS YOU CAN HAVE
SOMETHING THAT'S SAFE TODAY AND
NOT SAFE TOMORROW. SHOULD
SOMEBODY MAKE A MISTAKE
SOMEWHERE ELSE SO. I THINK IT'S
WORTHWHILE, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO
TAKE MONEY FROM THE GENERAL
FUND. AND THAT WAS MY AH,
PURPOSE IN ASKING FOR THOSE
AMENDMENTS. AND WE'LL GO FROM
THERE, AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS IN
A PARTICULARLY TRYING TO GET IT
BEFORE THAT, IF THE WHAT IF THE
WATER IS FINE TODAY, BUT IT
COULD START LEACHING IN THE IF
I'M USING THE RIGHT VERB. IN THE
FUTURE. YOU KNOW THEY'RE NOT
GOING TO BE TESTING IT EVERY
DAY. NO ONE'S ASKING FOR LIKE
DAILY TESTING, AND IT WOULD BE.
IT'S JUST A TRAGEDY OF ALL OF
SUDDEN THAT HAPPENS AND AT LEAST
KNOWING THAT THERE'S A PROBLEM.
SO AGAIN, UNDERSTANDING IT'S NOT
GOING TO BE AN IMMEDIATE FIX,
BUT THAT NEEDS TO BE ON THE LIST
OF THINGS TO RESOLVE. THAT YOU
THAT YOU RAISED. YEAH I MEAN, I
UNDERSTAND YOUR I THINK YOUR
ARGUMENT IS VERY VALID THAT YOU
KNOW, IN TERMS OF THE
PRIORITIZATION ONCE YOU TELL
PARENTS, BUT I ALSO THINK THAT
THERE'S A PROBLEM. I DO THINK
PEOPLE SHOULD BE ABLE TO KNOW
AND SOMETIMES IT'S PAINFUL WHEN
PEOPLE KNOW AND I'M NOT SAYING
THERE AREN'T OTHER THINGS THAT
THEY SHOULD KNOW AS WELL. IF THE
WINDOWS AREN'T ABLE TO OPEN AND
SO IT'S INCREASED. RESPIRATORY
VIRUS PROBLEM BECAUSE THE
WINDOWS ARE STUCK AND WE NEED TO
IMPROVE THE VENTILATION IN
SCHOOLS OR THE TOILETS AREN'T
CLUTCHING. WHATEVER YOU NOW
MANY PROBLEMS WE KNOW EXISTING
OLDER SCHOOL BUILDINGS. BUT THIS
IS ONE OF THEM, AND IT'S A
PRETTY SIGNIFICANT ONE. SO I
WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? NOT
DISAGREEING WITH WHAT YOU'RE
SAYING. BUT I DO THINK THAT
DISCLOSURE IS A GOOD THING IF I
COULD JUST SAY THAT I'M TORN
BECAUSE LETTUCE REALLY DANGEROUS
AND SO, LIKE I SAID, I'M GOING
TO VOTE FOR THIS BILL. NOT
VOTING FOR IT WOULD GO AGAINST
WHAT I'VE BEEN WORKING HERE FOR
10 YEARS. BUT MY ONLY DISCLOSING
THIS ONE ITEM. ANYTHING ELSE. WE
PRIORITIZE THIS ITEM. AH AND SO
I DO THINK WE NEED TO ASK
OURSELVES THAT QUESTION OF
HEALTHCARE. THAT ISN'T IT IS
THAT AND WE SHOULD BE PROTECTING
THE ANSWER MIGHT BE YES. IN ALL
FAIRNESS, UH, MAYBE THAT'S MORE
IMPORTANT THAN THE AIR
CONDITIONER ISSUE. OR SOMETHING?
I DON'T KNOW, BUT I THINK WE DO
NEED TO ASK THAT QUESTION OF
OURSELVES SERIOUSLY, FOR THIS
WILL GET TO THE FLOOR. UM OR DO
WE JUST, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S JUST
IT'S JUST A QUESTION THAT I
THINK WE NEED TO ASK OURSELVES.
IT MIGHT BE THE NUMBER ONE THING%
THAT WE SHOULD BE WORRIED ABOUT.
I DON'T KNOW. AND I THINK
OVERLAYING ALL THAT IS
PRIORITIZING SCHOOL FACILITIES
MORE THAN WE HISTORICALLY HAVE
IN TERMS OF THE BUDGET. LIKE THE
$12 BILLION. ALRIGHT YOU IS
THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UM I
APOLOGIZE TO SENATOR NEWMAN FOR
THIS ONE LASTING SO LONG, AND
YOU JUST GOT YOU. YOU SORT OF
ARRIVED AT THE BEGINNING. UM, SO
WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE? MY
COLLEAGUES. WE HAVE. I'M PRETTY
SURE I KNOW WHAT THE OPPONENTS
WERE SAYING. WE HAVE BEEN
WORKING INTENSIVELY WITH THE
OPPONENTS IS FELT FROM THE VERY
BEGINNING. WE MADE SIGNIFICANT
AMENDMENTS IN THE SENATE. WE
MADE SIGNIFICANT AMENDMENTS IN
THE ASSEMBLY, INCLUDING HERE.
TODAY AND WILL CONTINUE TO WORK
. WE KNOW THIS IS NOT AN EASY
ISSUE, BUT IT'S AN IMPORTANT
ONE. AND I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
YOUR VOTE. YES, AND I JUST WANT
TO SAY IT'S BEEN A REAL PLEASURE
TO WORK WITH YOU AND YOUR
SPONSORS. UM AND OF COURSE, WE
GOT TWO DIFFERENT LEGIONNAIRE,
EXPERTS SAYING. YOU'RE JUST NOT
DOING ENOUGH IN THE SCHOOLS
CONCERNED ABOUT BUDGETS AND THIS
AND THAT. UM AND SO THEY WANT
MORE. BUT BELIEVE ME, THERE'S A
LIMIT TO THE AMOUNT OF MONEY.
AND I THINK THAT ACTIONS. YOU'RE
TAKING A LEGIONELLA. THEY'RE THE
ONES THAT THE CDC SUGGESTS. AND
IT WOULD BE GREAT TO DO MORE,
BUT THIS IS WHAT THE CDC SAYS
YOU SHOULD BE DOING. THEY DON'T
TALK ABOUT THESE OTHER THINGS AS
BEING IMPORTANT. AND I THINK
YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB ON THE
LEGIONELLA. AND. ALSO MAKING
SURE THAT THE SCHOOLS CAN SET
THEIR PRIORITIES APPROPRIATELY.
SO I THINK YOU'VE YOU REALLY
HAVE ADDRESSED THESE CONCERNS
THE PEOPLE WHO ARE CONCERNED CAN
AGAIN, UH, WILL BE DOING THIS IN
EDUCATION. SO I THINK IT'S TIME
TO CALL THE ROLE OF WEIGHT. I
NEED EMOTION. AND THE SECOND ALL
RIGHT. AH! SO PLEASE GO AHEAD.
THIS IS ITEM NUMBER FIVE SB 11
44 WIENER. THE MOTION IS DO PASS
AND RE REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE
ON EDUCATION WORK. I QUIRK EYES
SMITH. SMITH, NO ARAMBULA.%
ARAMBULA I BOW BAUER-KAHAN.
CRISTINA GARCIA, CRISTINA
GARCIA, I MATHIS MATH IS NOT
VOTING SOUCI GI WALDRON.
MCCARTHY. THAT'S UM WE'LL KEEP
THE ROLL OPEN. VERY GOOD. THANK
YOU, SENATOR.
IT'S OKAY. SCOTT WAS ABOUT TO
ASK YOU A PRESENT. I THINK I'LL
PLAY UPON THEIR SYMPATHY WOULD
BE FED WILL KEEP IT. ALL RIGHT.
SENATOR NEWMAN. SB 12 15. UH
RESPONSIBLE BATTERY RECYCLING
ACT OF 2022 EXTREMELY IMPORTANT
BILL THAT BOTH THE INDUSTRY AND
ALL OF US HERE AH, REALLY NEED
TO EXAMINE, SO PLEASE GO AHEAD.
MOVE THE BILL. THANK YOU, MR
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS. I AM HERE FOR
A SECOND. VERY GOOD. ALRIGHT I'M
HERE BEFORE YOU TODAY TO
ADVOCATE ON BEHALF OF SP 12 15,
WHICH WILL CREATE A CONVENIENCE
STATEWIDE PRODUCER FUNDED
COLLECTION AND RECYCLING PROGRAM
FOR LOOSE AND PRODUCT EMBEDDED
BATTERIES. I AM GOING TO SKIP TO
MY CLOTHES. UH BY ENROLLING
PRODUCERS AS PART OF A MORE
EFFECTIVE END TO END SYSTEM FOR
RECYCLING CONSUMER BATTERIES. WE
CAN PREVENT FIRES AND
ENVIRONMENTAL ACCIDENTS FROM
OCCURRING, THEREBY SAVING ON THE
COST OF HIGHER GARBAGE RATES
WHILE ALSO PROTECTING THE HEALTH
OF THE PUBLIC. REDUCING THE RISK
OF WASTE FACILITY WORKERS AND
BETTER SAFEGUARDING CALIFORNIA'S
LAND, WATER AND AIR SP 12 15
ALSO CREATED CONSUMER OUTREACH
AND EDUCATION CAMPAIGN TO
EDUCATE CALIFORNIANS AND
ENCOURAGE THE PROPER DISPOSAL OF
ALL BATTERIES TO BUILD SPONSORS.
AND I LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUE
TO WORK WITH RELEVANT
STAKEHOLDERS WERE VERY SENSITIVE
TO CONCERNS HAVE BEEN RAISED TO
DATE COMMITTED TO SUCCESSFULLY
SECURING SUPPORT OR NEUTRALITY.
ALL OF THE PARTIES. I SHOULD
ALSO NOTE, THERE'S A COMPANION
BILL THAT ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S IRWIN
IS ADVANCING, WHICH IS NOW IN
THE SENATE WOULD BE IN PRISON
TESTIFIED TODAY ARE KAYLA
ROBINSON ON BEHALF OF WE THINK
WASTE AND JASON SMELSER ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA PRODUCT
STEWARDSHIP COUNCIL. GOOD
AFTERNOON AGAIN, MR CHAIR AND
MEMBERS KAYLA ROBINSON ON BEHALF
OF RETHINK WASTE WASTE
MANAGEMENT AUTHORITY, BASED IN
SAN MATEO COUNTY THAT PROVIDES
SERVICES TO APPROXIMATELY
428,000 RESIDENCES AND 11,000
BUSINESSES. I'LL KEEP IT SHORT
BECAUSE I KNOW WE'VE PRESENTED
IN FRONT OF YOU BEFORE ON THIS
BILL. JUST TO KEEP IT BRIEF. IN
2016. WE EXPERIENCED FIRSTHAND A
CATASTROPHIC FIRE THAT HAD THAT
CAUSED $8.5 MILLION IN DAMAGES
AND IT WAS CAUSED BY LITHIUM ION
BATTERY AND I JUST WANT TO
FINISH BY SAYING SP 12 15 IS
CRITICAL TO DIVERTING THESE
BATTERIES AND PRODUCTS FROM THE
WAY STREAM TO PROTECT OUR
WORKERS, OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND
UR ENVIRONMENT. AND I
RESPECTFULLY OR DRIVE UP. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU, MR SCHMELZER.
THANK YOU, MR CHAIR AND MEMBERS
JASON SCHMELZER HERE ON BEHALF
OF ONE OF THE CO SPONSORS
CALIFORNIA PRODUCT STEWARDSHIP
COUNCIL, BUT ALSO IN SUPPORT ON
BEHALF OF THE NATIONAL
STEWARDSHIP ACTION COUNCIL.
ALAMEDA COUNTY STOP WASTE
WESTERN PLASTER WASTE MANAGEMENT
AUTHORITY. JUST TWO THINGS
REALLY WANT TO THANK THE
COMMITTEE FOR THE TIME AND
GUIDANCE THAT WE'VE GOTTEN FROM
YOU AND YOUR STAFF COULDN'T BE
WHERE WE ARE WITHOUT IT, AND
THEN JUST WANT TO THANK THE
FORMER OPPOSITION THE FOLKS THAT
ARE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH US.
WE ALSO WOULDN'T BE HERE IF IT
WEREN'T FOR THE TYPE OF
COLLABORATIVE CONVERSATION THAT
LEADS TO GOOD POLICY IN THIS
BUILDING. SO WITH THAT, HAPPY TO
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND LOOK
FORWARD TO NEXT STEPS EXCELLENT
AND THANK YOU FOR BEING BRIEF.
ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANYONE IN
THE ROOM AND SUPPORT. CATHERINE
FREEMAN ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA STATE ASSOCIATION OF
COUNTIES AND THE RURAL COUNTY.
REPRESENTATIVES OF CALIFORNIAN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.
ANYONE IN THE ROOM IN OPPOSITION
OR THERE WE GO. ACTUALLY MR
CHAIR. REMEMBER SCOTT GOVERNOR
BEHALF OF THE RECHARGEABLE
BATTERY ASSOCIATION, WHICH
INCLUDES ALL THE BATTERY MAKERS
. WE'D LIKE TO THANK THE AUTHOR
AND SPONSORS. WE'VE BEEN WORKING
ON THIS FOR I DON'T KNOW HOW
MANY YEARS NOW, AND THIS IS THE
FURTHEST WE'VE COME ALONG, AND I
LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO
WORK WITH THEM. THANK YOU. VERY
GOOD. EXCELLENT. UM. LET'S SEE.
SO WE'VE TAKEN CARE OF SUPPORT
AND OPPOSITION IN THE ROOM.
ALRIGHT OPERATOR. UM IF THERE'S
ANYONE ON THE LINE WHO WISHES TO
SPEAK TO SB 12 15 NEWMAN
RESPONSIBLE BATTERY RECYCLING.
PLEASE HAVE THEM COME ON AND
SPEAK. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR, AND
WE DO HAVE PEOPLE THAT HAVE
SIGNALED THAT THEY WISH TO
SPEAK. WE'RE GOING TO START WITH
LINE 62. ERIN GILBERT ON BEHALF
OF THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO AND
SUPPORT LINE 44. AFTERNOON
NICOLE KOREAN ON BEHALF OF
CALIFORNIANS AGAINST RACISM
PRODUCT CO SPONSOR AND STILL
THANK YOU. LINE 46. GOOD
AFTERNOON, ERICA ROMERO ON
BEHALF OF THE R AND R IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. LINE 59.
JASON ANCHORED ON BEHALF OF THE
LOS ANGELES COUNTY SANITATION
DISTRICTS. ALSO IN SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. LINE 42. GOOD
AFTERNOON CHAIR AND MEMBERS
MICHAEL DAFT WITH A PRAYER AND
MCNALLY ON BEHALF OF REPUBLIC
SERVICES IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
FIND 48. GOOD AFTERNOON, ANDREA
VENTURA WITH CLEAN WATER ACTION
IN SUPPORT. BUYING 45. GOOD
AFTERNOON. JOHN KING'S
ASSOCIATION HOLD PRICE
MANUFACTURERS AND WE ARE
THERE IS NO ONE ELSE WHO SIGNAL
BUT THEY WISH TO SPEAK. VERY
GOOD. UM QUESTIONS. NO. ALL
RIGHT. THERE ARE CLEARLY SOME
BENEFITS TO BEING THE LAST
BUILDING WELL. YES YOU SPOKE
EXTREMELY WELL. AND I KNOW THAT
YOU'RE WORKING WITH THE TOY
MANUFACTURERS AND WHAT THEIR
CONCERNS ARE, AND I HOPE THOSE
CAN ALL BE RESOLVED. UM SO WOULD
YOU LIKE TO CLOSE SENATOR? THANK
YOU, MR SO I, TOO AM GRATEFUL
FOR ALL OF THE INPUT, UH AND
COOPERATION FROM YOU AND YOUR
COMMITTEE STAFF. THE E P R MODEL
HAS BEEN PROVEN SUCCESSFUL IN
CALIFORNIA AND SUCCESSFULLY
DEALING WITH OTHER DIFFICULT TO
RECYCLE PRODUCTS. MATTRESSES
MEDICAL WAYS TIRES. IT APPLIES
HERE IN A CASE THAT IS
DESPERATELY NEEDED, SO WE THINK
THIS MODEL IS, UH WE'RE MAKING
PROGRESS AND, YOU KNOW, GRATEFUL
TO ALL OF THE INPUT SO FAR,
ESPECIALLY FROM THE OPPOSITION
WHO HAVE NOW GONE TO NEUTRAL.
THANK YOU TO MY WITNESSES HERE.
THANK YOU. EVERYBODY WHO IS
CALLED IN AND I RESPECTFULLY ASK
TRIAGE VOTE. THANK YOU. WELL
THIS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT
WORK. UM WE HAVE ACCIDENTS NOW
OCCURRING IN PLACES WHERE.
THEY'RE COLLECTING, YOU KNOW.
PEOPLE JUST DON'T KNOW HOW TO
GET RID OF BATTERIES. THEY DON'T
NECESSARILY EVEN KNOW THAT A TOY
THAT HAS A HAS A BATTERY IN IT.
UM AND THIS IS CAUSING
TREMENDOUS PROBLEMS. SO THANK
YOU FOR VERY MUCH FOR WORKING ON
THIS SINCE THEY SAID IT'S BEEN
YEARS. SO WE HAVE, UH, MOTION IN
THE SECOND AND YOU MAY CALL THE
ROLL. THIS IS ITEM NUMBER SIX.
SB 12 15 NEWMAN. THE MOTION IS
DO PASS AND RE REFERRED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON NATURAL RESOURCES
WORK. I WORK. I SMITH. ARAMBULA.
ARAMBULA. AYE, BAUER-KAHAN.
CRISTINA GARCIA. CRISTINA
GARCIA, I MATHIS. MATHIS I
MURAGUCHI GI WALDRON. MCCARTHY.
WE HAVE FIVE VOTES.
CONGRATULATIONS AND JUST POINT
OUT THAT WHATEVER HAPPENED IN
THE SENATE. WE GOT GOOD BILLS
COMING BACK BILLS THAT BOTH
REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS CAN
SUPPORT. AND. WHATEVER THE
PROCESS WAS VERY PLEASED WITH
WHAT THEY'VE DONE. I APPRECIATE
THAT. THANK YOU. CHAIR. THANK
YOU MEMBERS. ALRIGHT UM WE'LL
START. THERE'S ANYONE HERE WHO
MISSED VOTING ON A BILL WILL
START THAT PROCEDURE. AH HERE,
SENATOR. WELL ASSEMBLYWOMAN
WALDRON, UH. YEAH WHY DON'T WE
DO THAT? WE CAN HAVE HIM ON.
ALRIGHT NOW WE ALSO NEED BOW,
BAUER-KAHAN AND. AND THE CURRENT
MCCARTY. I'M GONNA TEXT MCCARTHY
. WELL, YOU CALLED THE ROLE
HERE.
BUT CONSENT CALENDAR IS AT 60.
BAUER-KAHAN WALDRON. WALDRON.
AYE. MCCARTHY. ITEM NUMBER ONE
SB 50 TO ALLEN IS AT 60. BOW
BAUER-KAHAN. WALDRON. WALDRON. I
MCCARTY. ITEM NUMBER TWO SB 891
HERTZBERG. IT'S A VOTE STANDS AT
51. CHAIR VOTING, AYE. BOW
BAUER-KAHAN. WALDRON. WALDRON. I
MCCARTY. ITEM NUMBER THREE IS SP
12 54 HERTZBERG. THE VOTE IS AT
60 BAUER-KAHAN. WALDRON.
WALDRON. I MCCARTHY. ITEM NUMBER
FOUR SB 10 76 ARCHULETTA. THE
VOTE AT 60 BAUER-KAHAN WALDRON.
WALDRON. I MCCARTY. ITEM NUMBER
FIVE SB 11 44 WIENER. THE VOTE
IS THAT 41 CHAIR VOTING, AYE.
BAUER-KAHAN WALDRON. WALDRON. I
MCCARTY. ITEM NUMBER SIX SP 12
15 NEWMAN. THE VOTE IS AT 50.
SMITH. BAUER-KAHAN. WALDRON
WALDRON, I MCCARTY. SMITH NO ON
SB 12 15. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT I'M
GOING TO KEEP THE ROLE OPEN FOR
20 MINUTES BECAUSE I KNOW THAT
MCCARTHY IS IN HEALTH IN THE
OTHER BUILDING, SO IT'S GOING TO
TAKE HIM A WHILE TO COME OVER
HERE. AND IN THE MEANTIME, WE'LL
JUST WAIT HERE UNTIL HE ARRIVES.
AND IF THE SERGEANT'S CAN MAKE
SURE THERE'S A MESSAGE TO
BAUER-KAHAN AND BACARDI. THAT WE
NEED THEM TO GET HERE AND 20
MINUTES AT 3 35. OH, AND HE'S ON
HIS WAY. SO KEVIN IS ON HIS WAY.
I'M GOING TO TEXT. UH,
BAUER-KAHAN.
GOOD NEWS IS THEY'RE BOTH ON
THEIR WAY AND WE SHOULD BE ABLE
TO GET THEM IN FAIRLY QUICKLY.
LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU'RE READY TO
ADD ON TO CALL THE ROLL.
YES. READY WHEN YOU'RE READY.
THIS IS THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
THE VOTE STANDS AT 70
BAUER-KAHAN. BAUER-KAHAN DIæN
MCCARTY. ITEM NUMBER ONE SB 50
TO ALLEN. THE VOTE IS AT 70
BAUER-KAHAN BAUER-KAHAN I
MCCARTY. ITEM NUMBER TWO SB 8 91
HERTZBERG THE VOTE. THAT'S 61
CHAIR VOTING, AYE. BAUER-KAHAN
I? I MCCARTHY. ITEM NUMBER
THREE. SB 12 54 HERTZBERG. THE
VOTE IS 70. BAUER-KAHAN HIæN,
AYE MCCARTY. ITEM NUMBER FOUR SB
10 76 ARCHULETTA. THE VOTE IS 70
BAUER-KAHAN HIæN. AYE MCCARTY.
ITEM NUMBER FIVE SB 11 44
WIENER. THE VOTE IS 51 CHAIR
VOTING? AYE. BAUER-KAHAN AYE,
BAUER-KAHAN. AYE. MCCARTY. ITEM
SIX SP 12 15 NEWMAN. THE VOTE IS
61 CHAIR VOTING, AYE.
BAUER-KAHAN BARRICADE HAND I
MCCARTY. YEAH THANK YOU. JUST
GLAD TO SEE YOU HERE.
LET US KNOW WHEN YOU'RE READY TO
ADD ON. ON THE CONSENT. I GOT IT
ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR. THE
VOTE STANDS AT 80 MCCARTY.
MCCARTY? AYE. ITEM NUMBER ONE SP
50 TO ALLEN. THE VOTE IS 80
MCCARTY MCCARTY AYE. ITEM NUMBER
TWO SB 8 91 HERTZBERG THE VOTES
71 CHAIR VOTING I MCCARTY
MCCARTHY. AYE. ITEM NUMBER THREE
SP 12 54 HERTZBERG. THE VOTE IS
AT 80 MCCARTY. MCCARTHY. AYE.
ITEM NUMBER FOUR SB 10 76
ARCHULETTA. THE VOTE IS 80%
MCCARTY. MCCARTHY. AYE. ITEM
NUMBER FIVE SB 11 44 WIENER. THE
VOTE IS AT 61 WITH CHAIR VOTING,
AYE. MCCARTHY. MCCARTY? AYE.
ITEM NUMBER SIX SP 12 15 NEWMAN.
THE VOTE IS 71 VOTING? AYE.
MCCARTY MCCARTY AYE. I WANT TO
SAY THAT THIS HAS BEEN A VERY
SUCCESSFUL MEETING. WE HAD SOME
GREAT BILLS AND NUMBER OF THEM.
WERE ADOPTED UNANIMOUSLY, WHICH
IS NOT ALWAYS THE CASE. AND
GREAT WORK BY THE AUTHORS AND BY
STAFF. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANKS, KEVIN. I AM NOW CLOSING
THE MEETING.