MHM. GOOD MORNING BEFORE WE
BEGIN TO ENSURE MEMBERS OF THE
MEDIA IN PUBLIC HAVE ACCESS TO
OUR PROCEEDINGS TODAY, THIS
HEARING WILL BE STREAMED ON THE
ASSEMBLY'S WEBSITE AND MEMBERS
OF THE PUBLIC CAN PROVIDE
TESTIMONY IN PERSON HERE IN ROOM
4 44. IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE A
FAIRLY FULL HOUSE WELCOME OR VIA
THE PHONE FOR PUBLIC IN THE ROOM
IF ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC
WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY ON A BILL,
I'LL ASK YOU TO APPROACH THE
MICROPHONE AT THE APPROPRIATE
TIME. A COPY OF THE AGENDA IS
AVAILABLE ON THE COMMITTEE'S
WEBSITE. FOR THOSE JOINING US
TELEPHONICALLY, UM, WILL BE
PROVIDING COMMENTS VIA
TELEPHONE, AND WE ARE USING A
MODERATED TELEPHONE SERVICE CALL
IN NUMBER FOR THE HEARING IS
877692. 8957 AND THE PUBLIC
ACCESS CODE IS 131544. YOU CAN
CALL IN WHEN THE AUTHOR OF THE
BILL YOU WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT
ON BEGINS HIS OR HER
PRESENTATION. THE OPERATOR ON
THE LINE WILL GIVE YOU
INSTRUCTIONS AND HOW TO BE
PLACED IN THE QUEUE. IF YOU'RE
CALLING IN, PLEASE ELIMINATE ALL
BACKGROUND NOISE. THIS INCLUDES
MUTING YOUR LIVESTREAM PODCAST
AND YOUR DEVICES TO REDUCE SOUND
ISSUES. I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE
THAT THE ASSEMBLY HAS
EXPERIENCED A NUMBER OF
DISRUPTIONS TO COMMITTEE AND
FLOOR PROCEEDINGS IN THE LAST
FEW YEARS WILL ENSURE ALL VOICES
ARE HEARD HERE IN COMMITTEE.
TODAY HOWEVER, CONDUCT THAT
DISRUPTS, DISTURBS OR OTHERWISE
IMPEDE THE ORDERLY CONDUCT OF
OUR HEARING. IS PROHIBITED, AND
I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL IN
ADVANCE FOR YOUR COOPERATION. UH
ON THE AGENDA TODAY, THE
FOLLOWING BILL IS ON CONSENT
AGENDA ITEM ONE SB 3, 70 DODD
AND SB 12 19 HURTADO WAS PULLED
BY THE AUTHOR LAST WEEK AND WILL
NOT BE MOVING THIS YEAR. I NOW
WANT TO CALL THE HEARING OF
WATER PARKS AND WILDLIFE TO
ORDER MADAM SECRETARY. PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL. HERE. DOLLY HERE,
BENNETT. BIGELOW FRIEDMAN
GARCIA. CHOLERA. LEVIN.
MURATSUCHI WHEN RUBIO
MISSOURIAN. SMITH. VIA PADOVA
AWARD. WE HAVE. WE HAVE QUORUM
SO I CAN IRRITATION ENTERTAIN A
MOTION ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
SV 3 70 DODD. SOME OF THE THANK
YOU. CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE. THE
MOTION IS DUE PASS TO
APPROPRIATIONS BARRICADE. KH
BAUER-KAHAN. AYE DOLLY DOLLY, I
BENNETT BENNETT, I BIGELOW
BIGELOW I FRIEDMAN FRIEDMAN. I
GARCIA. CHOLERA LEVIN MURATSUCHI
WHEN RUBIO RUBIO. I NAZARIAN.
SMITH. SMITH. I. VVALLAPUDUA
VALLAPUDUA I WARD WORD I PERFECT
AND MR HERTZBERG IS HERE SO WE
WILL START WITH SB 11 57.
MORNING. MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS
. IT'S WONDERFUL TO BE HERE. YOU
CAN SEE SO MANY PEOPLE THAT
HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO SEE. THE
CIRCUMSTANCES THAT WE HAVE HAD
TO DEAL WITH OVER TIME. UM
WANTED TO START OUT BY THANKING
YOUR VERY CAPABLE. COMMITTEE
CONSULTANT, MR GARZA. PABLO
GARZA FOR IS WORKING SO HARD ON
THIS. I REALLY, REALLY
APPRECIATE IT. YOU KNOW, THESE
THINGS OFTEN COME TOGETHER BY
THE GENIUS OF THE STAFF AND I'M
NOT ONE WHO COMPLEMENTS PEOPLE
VERY EASILY. BUT I WANT TO GIVE
YOU A BIG PROPS BECAUSE YOU DID
A LOT OF WORK HERE AND I REALLY
APPRECIATE IT. BUT WANT TO TAKE
THE COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS? UM AND
AGAIN, THANK YOU. WE'RE GOING TO
CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE WITH
THE SPONSORS AND THE
STAKEHOLDERS TO REFINE OUR
MEASURE HERE. I JUST WANT TO
KNOW. SO I MENTIONED TO THE
CHAIR I GOT THIS MORNING AT 8 55
A NOTE FROM CMU A INDICATING
THAT THEY REMOVE THEIR
OPPOSITION AND GO NEUTRAL. WHICH
THEY WILL TALK ABOUT IT BASED
UPON THE COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS,
ALSO ANOTHER ONE AT 8 36 THIS
MORNING FROM THE CALIFORNIA
ASSOCIATED SANITATION AGENCIES
INDICATING THE SAME THING WITH
RESPECT TO THE AMENDMENTS. AND
THEN LASTLY, WITH RESPECT TO, UM
THE FOLKS AT THE. THE WATER
REUSE. ALSO WE'LL MOVE TO
NEUTRAL ON THE MEASURE BASED
UPON THE AMENDMENTS THAT THE
COMMITTEE CONSULTANT SO
ELEGANTLY DEALT WITH, IN ORDER
TO DEAL WITH THIS VERY IMPORTANT
ISSUE. YOU KNOW AS A AS AN
URBANITE FROM LOS ANGELES. NOT
VERY MANY OF US SPEND A LOT OF
TIME WATER. I WROTE MY
DISSERTATION ON WATER SOME YEARS
AGO AND HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN
THIS ISSUE AND CARE DEEPLY
DEEPLY ABOUT IT. AND NOW THAT
WAS THE CHALLENGE THAT WE'RE
FACING. IT'S EVEN WORSE. IT'S
WORSE FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL
COMMUNITY IT'S WORTH FOR THE
AGRICULTURAL COMMUNITY IS WORSE
FOR US IN URBAN AREAS, AND%
PARTICULARLY IN SO MANY WAYS. I
JUST WANTED TO QUICKLY HIGHLIGHT
A COUPLE OF HEADLINES THAT I
THINK INFORMED THE NATURE OF THE
URGENCY THAT WE FACE WITH
RESPECT TO WATER. CBS NEWS
CALIFORNIA'S RATIONING WATER
AMID ITS WORST DROUGHT IN 1200
YEARS. THAT WAS AROUND BACK
THEN, BUT IT WASN'T THAT BAD.
BUT I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW IT'S
PRETTY SIGNIFICANT. MERCURY
NEWS. SIERRA SNOWPACK FALLS TO
ONE OF ITS LOWEST LEVELS IN 70
YEARS, CNN LAKE POWELL IS ABOUT
TO DROP BELOW CRITICAL LEVELS
NEVER REACHED BEFORE AS DROUGHT
RAGES ON WESTERN MEGA DROUGHT.
AND IT'S WORSE THAN 1200 YEARS
AGO IN THE LOS ANGELES TIMES,
AND I WAS JUST TALKING TO SOME
FOLKS WITH RESPECT TO THE ENERGY
WORLD TALKING ABOUT ENERGY
GENERATION. AT AT HOOVER DAM AND
WHAT THE CHALLENGES ARE THERE.
SO YOU KNOW, ALTHOUGH OUR LAST
DROUGHT WAS ENDED MIRROR SIX
YEARS AGO, ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
FRIEDMAN AND I UM, DID A SERIES
OF BILLS TWO BILLS ONE IN THIS
HOUSE AND ONE OF THE OTHER HOUSE
DEALING WITH THESE CONSERVATION
STANDARDS? THE GOVERNOR BROWN AT
THE TIME, WANTED TO DO A TRAILER
BILL, AND WE THOUGHT IT WASN'T
THE RIGHT THING TO DO THAT THE
LEGISLATURE NEEDED TO ENGAGE AND
RESULTED IN A YEAR LONG PROCESS.
WHERE WE PUT TOGETHER THOSE
STANDARDS THAT THAT MEASURE
THOSE MEASURES REQUIRED. UM UH,
PUTTING TOGETHER A SERIES OF A
TWO YEAR LONG EFFORT. WHO WAS
HELD NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE
ADMINISTRATION AND STAKEHOLDERS
AND SOLICITED INPUT FROM DOZENS
OF ORGANIZATIONS AND THE OUTCOME
OF THESE NEGOTIATIONS SET THESE
NGUYEN INDOOR RESIDENTIAL USE
STANDARDS. AND WE ASKED THE
DEPARTMENT OF WATER RESOURCES IN
THAT LEGISLATION AND THE STATE
WATER BOARD TO TAKE A LOOK AT
THOSE STANDARDS AND REVIEW THEM
. AND THIS MEASURE THAT YOU HAVE
BEFORE TODAY BEFORE YOU TODAY IS
A CONSEQUENCE OF THAT HARD WORK.
IT'S NOT JUST A BILL THAT WE
PULLED OUT OF THE THIN AIR AND
SAID, WE WANT TO CHANGE THESE
THINGS WERE READING HEADLINES.
THIS IS THE RESULT OF A MULTI
YEAR EFFORT TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT
A RATIONAL APPROACH. AND YOU
KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
I'VE BEEN DEALING WITH IN
DEALING WITH. A LOT OF THE
AGENCIES IS WHETHER IT'S WATER
RECYCLING, AND ALL THE
CHALLENGES THAT ARE OTHERWISE
FACED IN MY ANSWER TO THEM IS,
YOU KNOW GOD'S GOING TO MAKE
THIS DECISION. ULTIMATELY,
CLIMATE CHANGE IS GOING TO MAKE
THIS DECISION. ULTIMATELY IN
TERMS OF WHAT WE DO, WE HAVE TO
BE AHEAD OF THE GAME. AND DEAL
WITH THIS. THESE ISSUES AND
PARTICULARLY, UH, CHAIRMAN,
CHAIRWOMAN FRIEDMAN AND I, WHEN
WE WORKED ON THIS STUFF, YOU
KNOW THIS IS HARD WORK, AND IT'S
DIFFICULT, BUT IT REQUIRES US TO
MARRY PUBLIC POLICY ON THE ONE
HAND WITH THESE VERY DIFFICULT
CHALLENGES THAT WE'RE FACING.
GOING FORWARD. SO UM, BASICALLY
BACK IN 2000 AND 18 WHEN
CERTAINLY WOMAN CHAIRWOMAN
FREEMAN TIME AND I WERE TOLD
THAT THESE STANDARDS COULDN'T BE
DONE. BUT WE'VE ALREADY SEEN
THESE SUCCESSES ARE ALREADY IN
TERMS OF THESE USES IN A STEADY
DECLINE. IT'S 48 GALLONS PER
CAPITA PER DAY. UM IS THE
EXISTING STANDARD IN THE STATUTE
AS A RESULT OF ANALYSIS. THE
ELECTRONIC ANNUAL REPORT SHOWS
37% OF WATER SUPPLIES ARE
ALREADY BELOW THE PROPOSED 2030
STANDARDS. AND NOW THERE'S AN
ARGUMENT THAT YOU CAN ONLY FLUSH
THE TOILET ONCE A DAY. AND
SHOWERS EVERY OTHER DAY, AND
THAT'S NOT WHAT THE BILL DOES.
IT'S JUST NOT WHAT THE BILL
DOES. WE BUILT FLEXIBILITY INTO
THE ORIGINAL PACKAGE.
ASSEMBLYWOMAN FRIEDMAN AND I AND
THESE INDOOR EFFICIENCY
STANDARDS ARE JUST ONE PART OF
THE TOTAL FORMULA TO DETERMINE
HOW WATER NCIES MUST
THEIR OVERALL WATER USE
OBJECTIVES ON A SYSTEM WIDE
BASIS. IT ALLOWS FOR VARIANCES
AND OTHER FLEXIBILITIES IN THE
PROCESS WHERE YOU LOOK TO THE
STANDARDS YOU ADD TO THE TO THE
VARIANCES. THERE'S BONUS
INCENTIVES THAT ARE PART OF THE
BILL THAT THEN IS INFORMED BY
THE TOTAL OBJECTIVE. IN JUST THE
PAST FEW WEEKS. I'LL FINISH
HERE. 12% OF THE STATE MOVED
INTO EXCEPTIONAL DROUGHT
CATEGORY AND OVERALL 97% OF THE
STATE IS EXPERIENCING DROUGHT.
THIS IS A VERY BIG DEAL, AND
THIS IS A VERY INTELLIGENT
APPROACH. I THINK INFORMED BY
ALL OF US IN GOVERNMENT AND THE
LEGISLATURE OVER THE YEARS IN AN
EFFORT TO TRY TO SET STANDARDS
SO THAT WE CAN UH, UM. MEET
THESE, YOU KNOW, MEET THERE ARE
OUR NEW WORLD ORDER IN TERMS OF
WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH WATER. AND
SO WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO TURN
IT OVER TO MY GUESS I'VE GOT
WITNESSES. WE'VE GOT THE
COMMUNITY WATER CENTER. WE'VE
GOT THE PACIFIC INSTITUTE AND
THE SIERRA CLUB AS WITNESSES IN
THIS MEASURE, SO IF I COULD PASS
IT ON TO THEM, I'D APPRECIATE
IT. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
THANK YOU, AND WE HAVE OUR
WITNESSES ON THE PHONE OFF THREE
OF THEM IN PERSON, BUT SPECIFIC
INSTITUTIONS HERE CLUB ON THE
PHONE. GREAT. ONE PERSON. WELL,
IT'S A LITTLE. OKAY WE'LL GO
AHEAD. IF WE HAVE OUR WOULDN'T
TO. THERE WE GO. OKAY? MR
MODERATOR, IF YOU COULD FIND
HEATHER COOLEY, ERIN WILLEY AND
REAL SOUTH OF ARE ON THE PHONE.
TUTORIALS HERE. THERE YOU ARE.
BUT WE'RE STARTING WITH HEATHER
COOLEY AND AARON. SORRY, OKAY?
THIS IS HEATHER, CAN YOU HEAR
ME? YES, HEATHER, GO AHEAD. OKAY
THANK YOU. MY NAME IS HEATHER
COOLEY, DIRECTOR OF RESEARCH FOR
THE PACIFIC INSTITUTE. I'M
CALLING TODAY IN SUPPORT OF THE
11 57. SIX OH, SIX AND 80 15 68
AUTHORIZED DWR STATE WATER BOARD
TO CONDUCT STUDIES ON INDOOR
WATER USE AND JOINTLY RECOMMEND
UPDATED INDOOR STANDARDS. BASED
ON AN EXTENSIVE ANALYSIS OF A
MILLION CUSTOMER ACCOUNTS,
NEARLY 160 URBAN WATER SUPPLIERS
. THE STATE AGENCIES JOINTLY
RECOMMENDED THAT THE INDOOR
STANDARDS, HE SAID, AT 47
GALLONS PER PERSON PER DAY. IN
2025 42 GALLONS PER PERSON PER
DAY IN 2030. SB 11 57 6 TO
CODIFY THIS JOINT
RECOMMENDATION. BASED ON PACIFIC
INSTITUTE, EXTENSIVE RESEARCH ON
CALIFORNIA'S WATER USED TRENDS
AND POTENTIAL FOR INCREASED
EFFICIENCY IMPROVEMENTS. I
BELIEVE THAT THE PROPOSED INDOOR
WATER USE STANDARDS OUTLINED IN
THIS BILL ARE ACHIEVABLE. INDEED
DWR ESTIMATES THAT 39% OF URBAN
WATER SUPPLIERS WILL COMPLY WITH
THE 2030 STANDARDS BASED ON THE
EFFECTS OF PLUMBING CODES
ALLOWANCE. IMPORTANTLY WATER
SUPPLIERS NEED NOT MEET THE
INDOOR WATER USE STANDARD, BUT
RATHER HAVE FLEXIBILITY TO MEET
THEIR WATER USE OBJECTIVE
THROUGH ANY COMBINATION OF
EFFICIENCY MEASURES THEY DEEM
APPROPRIATE FOR THEIR
COMMUNITIES. WATER SUPPLIERS MAY
CHOOSE TO PRIORITIZE REDUCING
WATER LAWSUIT, OUTDOOR
EFFICIENCY MEASURES OR INDOOR
EFFICIENCY MEASURES. THERE ARE
ALSO VARIANCES FOR UNIQUE
SITUATIONS AND ON PHONE IT FOR
POTABLE RECYCLED WATER. IN
SUMMARY, THE PROPOSED STANDARDS
ARE BASED ON THE BEST AVAILABLE
DATA INFORMATION, AND THEY ARE
ACHIEVABLE FRAMEWORK ALSO OFFERS
SIGNIFICANT FLEXIBILITY TO
ACCOMMODATE LOCAL CIRCUMSTANCES.
I RESPECTFULLY URGE YOUR SUPPORT
OF SB 11 57. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU, SCHOOLEY. THIS WILL AIR YOU
ON THE PHONE. YES, THIS IS AARON
WOOLY. UM I AM A POLICY ADVOCATE
WITH SIERRA CLUB, CALIFORNIA AND
TEST, FRANK SAY ON BEHALF OF OUR
HALF MILLION MEMBERS AND
SUPPORTERS STATEWIDE AND SUPPORT
OF SENATE BILL 11 57. THE
WESTERN UNITED STATES IS IN THE
WORST DROUGHT IN 1200 YEARS, A
DROUGHT THAT'S BEEN WORSENED BY
THE EFFECTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE.
CALIFORNIA HAS EXPERIENCED DRY
CONDITIONS IN SEVEN OF THE PAST
10 YEARS. IT'S CLEAR THAT
CLIMATE CHANGE IS AFFECTING THE
QUANTITY AND TIMING OF
PRECIPITATION, SNOW PACK AND RUN
OFF IN CALIFORNIA, WE CAN NO
LONGER RELY ON HISTORICAL
OBSERVATIONS TO PREDICT THE
RELIABILITY OF SURFACE WATER
RESOURCES. THE IMPACTS ARE ALSO
INTENSIFYING, LEADING TO HOTTER
AND DRIER CONDITIONS THROUGHOUT
THE WESTERN UNITED STATES AND
MORE FREQUENT SEVERE AND
WIDESPREAD DROUGHT. THE 2020 AND
2021 WATER YEARS WHERE THE 5TH
AND 2ND DRIEST YEARS ON RECORD
IN CALIFORNIA THIS YEAR CHILD
PORN EXPERIENCE THE DRYER DRIEST
WINTER IN 100 YEARS. WATER
CONSERVATION AND EFFICIENCY
MEASURES ARE AVAILABLE ON
EFFECTIVE AT REDUCING THE GAP
BETWEEN WATER SUPPLY AND USE AND
PROVIDE EFFECTIVE JOB RESPONSE.
WE CAN AND MUST TAKE PRACTICE.
THAT'S TO MAKE OUR COMMUNITIES
MORE RESILIENT TO CLIMATE CHANGE
, AS THE 11 57 CAN BE PART OF
THE SOLUTION AND IMPROVE
CALIFORNIA'S FUTURE WATER
SUPPLY, RELIABILITY AND
ULTIMATELY MAKE THIS STATE MORE
ADAPTABLE AND RESILIENT TO
FUTURE DRAFT. FOR THESE REASONS.
I URGE YOU TO VOTE YES. ON
SENATE BILL 11 57. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. GO AHEAD, MR HERO.
GOOD MORNING CHAIR MEMBERS. MY
NAME IS REAL SALDIVAR AND I'M
WITH THE COMMUNITY WATER CENTER,
AND WE'RE HERE IN STRONG SUPPORT
OF SB 11 57, WHICH FURTHERS THE
HUMAN RIGHT TO WATER. WATER
EFFICIENCY PROGRAMS, REDUCE
HOUSEHOLD WATER, WASTE WATER AND
ENERGY COSTS AS WELL AS MITIGATE
FUTURE RATE INCREASES. URBAN
WATER CONSERVATION AND
EFFICIENCY MEASURES ARE THE MOST
COST EFFECTIVE WAY TO MEET
FUTURE WATER NEEDS A 2018 STUDY
BY THE ALLIANCE FOR WATER
EFFICIENCY FOUND THAT LED WP
BETWEEN 1990 2016 AVOIDED
ROUGHLY $11 BILLION IN WATER
COSTS. MEANING THAT CUSTOMERS
BILLS WERE 20% LOWER THAN THE
OTHERWISE WOULD HAVE BEEN.
RECENT COST AND AFFORDABILITY.
CONCERNS APPEAR TO SUGGEST THAT
THE LEGISLATURE SHOULD ADOPTED
LESS EFFICIENT WATER STANDARD
BECAUSE IT WOULD BE TOO MUCH OF
A BURDEN FOR SUPPLIERS TO ENSURE
THAT THEIR WATER RATES AND
PROGRAMS ARE IN ECUADOR ARE
EQUITABLE. THESE ARGUMENTS
SHOULD BE REJECTED. IMPROVING
WATER EFFICIENCY IS FUNDAMENTAL
TO ENSURING THAT WATER REMAINS
ACCESSIBLE AND AFFORDABLE. GIVEN
OUR DISMAL WATER SUPPLY OF
SITUATION, HISTORIC AMERICAN
MEGA DROUGHT AND INCREASING
VOLATILITY THAT WE FACE WITH
CLIMATE CHANGE. WE MUST MOVE
FORWARD WITH THESE VERY
REASONABLE STANDARDS TO IMPROVE
WATER EFFICIENCY AND
AFFORDABILITY. SB 11 57 IS
FUNDAMENTAL TO THE HUMAN RIGHT
TO WATER BY FURTHERING THESE
PROACTIVE PROGRAMS AND
PROTECTING YOUR PRECIOUS BUT
FINITE RESOURCE FOR THESE
REASONS, I URGE ER I VOTE FOR SB
11 57. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY
OTHER SUPPORT HERE IN THE ROOM.
NO SORRY. GOOD MORNING, ELENA
ORTIZ ON BEHALF OF NRDC ACTION
FUNDING, STRONG SUPPORT. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. AND NOW WE'LL GO
TO THE PHONE LINES ANY SUPPORT
ON THE PHONE LINES AND WILL BE
TAKING NAME ORGANIZATION IN
POSITION ONLY MODERATOR. AND IF
THERE IS ANY SUPPORT AT THIS
TIME, PLEASE PRESS ONE, FOLLOWED
BY THE ZERO AT THIS TIME. FIRST
OF ALL TO LINE NUMBER 30.
IDENTIFY YOURSELF. MHM. 9 30,
YOU'RE OPEN. PLEASE GO AHEAD.
MOVING ON. WE HAVE LINE NUMBER
18. PLEASE GO AHEAD. WOMEN
VOTERS, AND THEY STRONGLY
SUPPORT THIS BILL.
AND WE HAVE LINE NUMBER 25.
PLEASE GO AHEAD. HELLO THIS IS
ANDREA VENTURA WITH CLEAN WATER
ACTION IN STRONG SUPPORT. THANK
YOU. HEADLINE NUMBER. 12, PLEASE
GO AHEAD. ALTHOUGH THIS IS CODY
PHILLIPS WITH CALIFORNIA COAST
KEEPER ALLIANCE AND SUPPORT
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HAS LINE
NUMBER 33, PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD
MORNING. THIS IS ELISE VON DRAKE
FROM CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL
VOTERS IN SUPPORT OF 11 57. WE
HAVE LINE NUMBER 19, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. HI MY NAME IS LAUREN
ACUMEN. I'M CALLING FROM THE LOS
ANGELES LINES FOR NEW ECONOMY
AND SUPPORT OF SB 11 57. THANK
YOU. WITH THAT THERE ARE NO
FURTHER LINES IN QUÊ. THANK YOU
. AND NOW I KNOW THROUGH THE
HARD WORK OF THE AUTHOR AND THE
COMMITTEE. WE HAVE SOME FOLKS
WHO ARE NOW NEUTRAL WHO ARE
GOING TO SPEAK NEXT? I THINK I
HAVE THAT RIGHT.
GOOD MORNING, SENATOR. THIS
WHOLE CREW THE NEUTRAL CREW.
YES, OKAY. DANIEL BLAST. HAYDN
WITH CALIFORNIA MENACE MUNICIPAL
UTILITIES ASSOCIATION. WE WANT
TO THANK THE COMMITTEE STAFF AND
YOU TEAR AND ALL THE MEMBERS AND
SENATOR HERZBERG FOR ALL THE
WORK TO PROVIDE A PATH FORWARD
THAT WE THINK MAKES A LOT OF
PROGRESS. WE HAVE REMOVED OUR
OPPOSITION. WE HAVE SENATOR
HERTZBERG'S UNIQUE LEGISLATURE
LEGISLATOR, SO WE HAVE A UNIQUE
POSITION. NEUTRAL AND AMEND, SO
WE WANT TO WORK ON SOME
ADDITIONAL FINE TUNING OF THE
LANGUAGE, BUT WE REALLY
APPRECIATE ALL THE EFFORTS TO
ADDRESS OUR CONCERNS. AND SO
WE'VE REMOVED OPPOSITION. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. AND I'M JESSICA
GAGA WITH THE CALIFORNIA
ASSOCIATION OF SANITATION
AGENCIES. WE TOO, ARE PLEASED TO
REPORT THAT WITH THE AMENDMENTS
TAKEN TODAY, WE HAVE MOVED TO A
NEUTRAL POSITION. APPRECIATE THE
COMMITTEE'S WORK ON THIS AND FOR
THE CHAIR AND SENATOR HERZBERG
FOR BEING RESPONSIVE TO OUR
CONCERNS AND LOOK FORWARD TO
HAVING SOME ADDITIONAL
CONVERSATIONS AS THE BILL MOVES
FORWARD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
BETH A LASSO WITH WATER REUSE
CALIFORNIA ECHO. THE COMMENTS OF
MY COLLEAGUES REALLY APPRECIATE
THE HARD WORK ON THIS LOOKING
FOR A FEW TWEAKS. I THINK
RECYCLED WATER WAS A LITTLE
INADVERTENTLY OMITTED. UM, IN A
COUPLE OF PLACES I WOULD LIKE TO
SEE LITTLE SUPPORT FOR RECYCLED
WATER THERE. BUT AS WE MOVE
THROUGH THE PROCESS, WE KNOW
THAT YOU'RE A GOOD PARTNER AND
MAKING THINGS WORK. THANK YOU.
PETERSON GENERAL MANAGER OF LOST
VIRGINITY MUNICIPAL WATER
DISTRICT, SIMILAR COMMENTS.
APPRECIATE THE WORK OF THE
COMMITTEE AND THE SENATOR AND
COMMITTEE STAFF. WE ALSO WE'RE
HOPING FOR SOME CLARIFICATIONS
RELATED TO WATER RECYCLING.
THERE WERE TWO SPECIFIC SECTIONS
, THE SECOND SENTENCE OF
SUBSECTION B THREE. UM WE WERE
ASKING IF WATER RECYCLING COULD
BE MENTIONED THERE AND ALSO IN
SUBSECTION B ONE IN THE THIRD
SENTENCE AGAIN. WE APPRECIATE
THE WORK ON THIS. AND I FEEL
THAT IF THESE CLARIFICATIONS
COULD BE MADE THAT WE WOULD BE
ABLE TO REMOVE OUR OPPOSITION.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I THINK I
SEE ONE MORE. YES THANK YOU,
JAMIE MINOR ON BEHALF OF
MONTEREY, ONE WATER EASTERN
MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT IN
SANTA MARGARITA WATER DISTRICT.
JUST WANTED TO ECHO THE
SENTIMENT TODAY, UM, APPRECIATE
THE SENATOR AND THE COMMITTEE'S
WORK ON THIS, YOU KNOW, HE'S A
CHAMPION FOR WATER RECYCLING, SO
LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUE WORKING
WITH HIM JUST ON A FEW TWEAKS TO
MAKE SURE THERE ARE NO
UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU ALL. I WISH WE
HAD THESE MOMENTS IN COMMITTEE
MORE OFTEN, MR HERTZBERG. RIGHT?
UM. SO NOW WE WILL MOVE TO
OPPOSITION ON THE BILL. ANYONE
IN THE ROOM AND OPPOSITION I NOW
NO LONGER KNOW WHO'S IN
OPPOSITION SO COMING UP. HAVE.
WHO WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN TO
START? YES SO GOOD MORNING CHAIR
REMEMBERS. MY NAME IS JULIA HALL
WITH ASSOCIATION OF CALIFORNIA
WATER AGENCIES. I REALLY
APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
SPEAK TODAY. FIRST I REALLY WANT
TO THANK PABLO FOR ALL THE HARD
WORK AND YOU KNOW, I'M SURE
OTHER COMMITTEE STAFF HELPED,
BUT YOU KNOW, I REALLY
APPRECIATE ALL THE TIME HE
SPENT. TO UNDERSTAND THIS BILL
AND THE ISSUES. UM AND I REALLY
FELT LIKE THE ANALYSIS DID A
REALLY GOOD JOB OF LAYING OUT
THE POTENTIAL ISSUES HERE. SO
UM, I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE
SENATOR FOR PRODUCTIVE INITIAL
CONVERSATION AND I HOPE TO
CONTINUE THOSE CONVERSATIONS. MY
TESTIMONY TODAY IS BASED ON THE
BILL IN PRINT. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE
A POSITION OF OPPOSING LESS
AMENDED ON THE CURRENT BILL
IMPRINT WITH REQUESTED
AMENDMENTS OF DELAYING THE
IMPLEMENTATION OF A STANDARD FOR
2030 AND REQUIRING DEPARTMENT OF
WATER RESOURCES TO DO SOME
ADDITIONAL STUDIES. YOU KNOW, IT
SOUNDS LIKE THE COMMITTEE IS
LIKELY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE
BILL TODAY WITH THE PROPOSED
COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS AND YOU
KNOW THAT BEING THE CASE, AQUA
WILL BRING THE BILL BACK AND
RECONSIDER OUR POSITION. UM
THESE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TRY TO
ADDRESS SOME OF THE SPECIFIC
CONCERNS WE HAVE RAISED, BUT
THEY DON'T ADDRESS ALL OF THEM
SO KIND OF WORKING THROUGH THAT
PROCESS. YOU KNOW, WE'RE
SUPPORTIVE OF WATER USE
EFFICIENCY, BUT LONG TERM WATER
EFFICIENCY STANDARDS REALLY NEED
TO BE EVIDENCE BASED. ALL THE
STAKEHOLDERS INVOLVED IN THE
NEGOTIATIONS IN 17 18 ON THE
MAKING CONSERVATION OF
CALIFORNIA WAY OF LIFE
LEGISLATION. I THINK THERE WAS A
BELIEF THAT THE STUDIES THAT DWR
WAS REQUIRED TO CONDUCT RELATED
TO THIS SPECIFIC STANDARD. WOULD
LEAD TO EVIDENCE BASED DECISION
MAKING. WHEN DWR RELEASED ITS
DRAFT REPORT LAST MAY, AND 2021
AQUA IDENTIFIED A NUMBER OF
SPECIFIC SHORTCOMINGS AND
ADDITIONAL STUDIES THAT NEEDED
TO BE DONE. WE SUBMITTED A
COMMENT LETTER SPECIFICALLY
LAYING OUT CERTAIN STUDIES THAT
WE THOUGHT WERE REALLY IMPORTANT
TO BE CONDUCTED. UM AND DWR
DECLINED TO DO ANY OF THOSE
ADDITIONAL STUDIES. YOU KNOW, WE
OFFERED TO PARTNER WITH THEM,
AND WE THOUGHT IT WOULD TAKE
ABOUT SIX MONTHS TO COMPLETE
THEM. THEY INSTEAD RELEASED THE
FINAL RECOMMENDATION IN STUDY,
WHICH WAS NEARLY IDENTICAL TO
THE DRAFT. UM SIX MONTHS LATER,
SO THE SAME TIMELINE THAT WE
THOUGHT THAT THOSE STUDIES COULD
BE COMPLETED. THE REPORT DIDN'T
EVALUATE THE LEVEL OF IMPACT
THAT THESE RECOMMENDED STANDARDS
WOULD HAVE ON WATER, WASTEWATER
AND RECYCLED WATER, AND NEITHER
DID THEY EVALUATE THE COST OR
POTENTIALLY DETRIMENTAL IMPACT
ON AFFORDABILITY OF WATER AND
DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES. THE
CALIFORNIA WATER EFFICIENCY
PARTNERSHIP DID AN ANALYSIS AND
THEY FOUND THAT WOULD COST
BETWEEN 2.8 AND $4.6 BILLION
JUST ON THE SUPPLIER SIDE TO
REACH THIS 2030 NUMBER. UM AND
WE STILL DON'T KNOW THE LONG
TERM IMPACTS OF COVID 19 AND
WHERE PEOPLE WORKING FROM HOME
SO WE THINK THERE'S MORE WORK TO
DO WITHOUT ARE REQUESTED
MEMBERS. WE WOULD ASK MEMBERS TO
VOTE ARE EXCUSE ME WITHOUT ARE
REQUESTED AMENDMENTS. WE ASKED
MEMBERS TO VOTE NOTE TODAY ON
THE BILL AND APPRECIATE YOUR
TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU,
MADAM CHAIRMAN MEMBERS, SENATOR
HERTZBERG. MY NAME IS BOB RIEBE
HAVE A COLD. I TESTED NEGATIVE
THIS MORNING, SO DON'T ANYBODY
TO GET UPSET YAHOO! UM. SO AS
SENATOR HERZBERG INDICATED FOUR
YEARS AGO, A COMPROMISE WAS
REACHED ON SB 66 AND A B 16 68.
AND THAT WAS THAT THE WATER
COMMUNITY WOULD CONCUR WITH THE
STANDARDS THAT WERE ESTABLISHED
FOR 2025 2030, BUT. THERE WOULD
BE SPECIFIC STUDIES CONDUCTED
WITH RESPECT TO THE IMPACTS ON
SEWER COLLECTION. WASTEWATER
TREATMENT, RECYCLED WATER
OPERATIONS AND MANAGEMENT AND
COSTS. THOSE STUDIES WERE NOT
DONE. ALL ONE HAS TO DO IS LOOK
AT PAGE 76 OF THE REPORT THAT
DWR SUBMITTED AND YOU WILL SEE
IN THERE THAT THE QUANTITATIVE
ANALYSES WERE NOT A PART OF THE
STUDY. SO WHAT MY CLIENTS ARE
ASKING AND TAKE ME TWO MINUTES
TO LIST THEM. SO THEY'RE IN THE
ANALYSIS. THEY'RE ASKING FOR YOU
TO KEEP YOUR PROMISE AND DO THE
STUDIES. THE COMPROMISE THAT WAS
REACHED BETWEEN THE AUTHOR AND
THE COMMITTEE TODAY. UH, REDUCE
SIGNIFICANTLY THE STANDARDS AND
PROMISED AGAIN TO DO THE
STUDIES. SO WE HAVE NO
CONFIDENCE THAT THAT WILL OCCUR
. LET ME JUST QUICKLY INDICATE
SOME OF THE IMPACTS THAT MY
CLIENTS HAVE IDENTIFIED. QUICKLY
ELDORADO IRRIGATION DISTRICT,
WHICH IS JUST THAT THE HIGHWAY
HERE ON HIGHWAY 50. THEY WERE
PARTNERS AND THE FIRST OF ITS
KIND RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
WITH A SERRANO COMPANY TO DUEL
PLUM RESIDENCES SO THAT RECYCLED
WATER WAS USED OUTSIDE FOR
IRRIGATION AND POLITICAL WATER
INSIDE. THE RECYCLED WATER
THAT'S PRODUCED BY THE DISTRICT
IS NOT SUFFICIENT DURING THE
HIGH IRRIGATION SUMMER MONTHS TO
MEET THE DEMAND FOR RECYCLED
WATER. WITH THE REDUCTION IN THE
RESIDENTIAL INDOOR WATER USE
THAT WILL REDUCE THE RECYCLED
WATER PRODUCED, WHICH WILL
REQUIRE THEM TO SUPPLEMENT WITH
EVEN EVEN MORE POTABLE WATER.
EITHER OFFSETTING OR WIPING OUT
ANY SAVINGS THAT MAY ACCRUE FROM
THIS BILL. DOWN IN IN PALMDALE
WATER DISTRICT. THEY'VE BEEN
LOOKING STUDYING OF RECYCLED
WATER PROJECT THAT WOULD PRODUCE
5000 ACRE FEET OF WATER. THE
ESTIMATED COST IS $1382 AN ACRE
FOOT, WHICH IS JUST A LITTLE BIT
MORE THAN WHAT THE METROPOLITAN
WATER DISTRICT STATE WATER
PROJECT COST IS. WITH THIS BILL
IF IT TOOK EFFECT AND RESULTED
IN THE 42 GALLONS PER CAPITA PER
DAY, THE DOLLAR COST FOR THAT
RECYCLED WATER GOES TO $2000, AN
ACRE FOOT RENDERING THE PLANT
AND FEASIBLE THERE BY THE
DISTRICT WILL NOT BE ABLE TO, UM
, MADE THE DELTA REFORM ACT 2000
AND NINE POLICY OF REDUCING
RELIANCE ON FOR FUTURE SUPPLIES
FROM THE DELTA. ELSON RIVOLI
MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT IN LAKE
ELSINORE IS CONCERNED ABOUT THE
SEWER COLLECTION. WASTEWATER
TREATMENT PROCESSES, WHICH THE
COMMITTEE ANALYSIS OUTLINED SO I
WOULD ENCOURAGE THE COMMITTEE
MEMBERS TO TAKE AT THAT. WHAT
THIS STANDARD MEANS IS THAT
RATES WILL BE BASED MORE ON
FIXED COSTS AND LESS ON WATER
SALES, WHICH WILL HAVE A
NEGATIVE EFFECT ON AFFORDABILITY
. MAKE NO MISTAKE, THE WATER
SYSTEMS STILL HAVE TO OPERATE
AND MAINTAIN THEIR SYSTEMS.
INVEST IN REPAIR REPLACEMENT AND
REHABILITATION. THOSE COSTS ARE
FIXED AND WILL BE REFLECTED IN
THE WATER RATE, WHETHER YOU
REACH IN A HOUSEHOLD OF 42
GALLONS PER CAPITA PER DAY OR
NOT. FINISH UP, MR REEVES.
THANKS SO BASED ON ALL THESE
CONCERNS THAT WERE NOT STUDIED.
BY THE DEPARTMENT OF WATER
RESOURCES, MY CLIENTS THROUGH
ASKING FOR A NO VOTE. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE IN THE
ROOM AND OPPOSITION? GOOD
MORNING, MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS
ROSARIO CORTEZ CAPELLA ON BEHALF
OF THE CALIFORNIA SPECIAL
DISTRICTS ASSOCIATION. WE
CONTINUE TO HAVE AN OPPOSING
LESS AMENDED ON THE CURRENT BILL
IN PRINT, BUT GREATLY APPRECIATE
THE MOVEMENT ON THE AMENDMENTS
THAT WILL BE REVIEWING THOSE
DURING OUR FORMAL MEETING. THANK
YOU. GOOD MORNING, BRIAN. OH,
JACKIE, WITH THE REGIONAL WATER
AUTHORITY ECHO THE COMMENTS BY
JULIA AND AQUA WILL ALSO BE
LOOKING TO FULLY EVALUATE THE
AMENDMENTS AS THEY COME INTO A
PRINT AND AT THIS TIME, THOUGH,
OPPOSED UNLESS AMENDED. THANK
YOU. MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS,
ANTHONY MOLINA ON BEHALF OF MESA
WATER DISTRICT. WE REMAIN
OPPOSED UNLESS AMENDED. THANK
YOU. THEY CAME TO THIS ONE MORE.
UM, AND NOW WE'LL GO TO THE
PHONE LINE FOR ANY OPPOSITION ON
A B 11 57 AGAIN WILL BE LOOKING
FOR JUST YOUR NAME ORGANIZATION
AND POSITION MODERATOR. LIVE
HERE IN OPPOSITION, PLEASE PRESS
ONE AND ZERO AT THIS TIME AND
WILL FIRST GO TO LINE NUMBER 28.
28, PLEASE GO AHEAD. 28, PLEASE
GO AHEAD. AND MOVING ON. WE HAVE
LINE NUMBERS. 34, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. GOOD MORNING, CAROLYN
JENSEN, UM, ON BEHALF OF THE
MOJAVE WATER AGENCIES AND
WESTERN MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT
OPPOSED UNLESS AMENDED. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. I WILL VOTE TO
LINE NUMBER EIGHT. PLEASE GO
AHEAD. GOOD MORNING, MADAM. PURE
AND MEMBERS KENDRA, DIJO GO WITH
THE GLOBAL GROUP ON BEHALF OF
SOUTH COAST WATER DISTRICT AND
SEVEN WATER AGENCY AND ALAMEDA
COUNTY. WE ECHO THE COMMENTS
MADE BY AQUA AND LOOK FORWARD TO
WORKING WITH THE COMMITTEE AND
AUTHOR ON THE AMENDMENT. THANK
YOU. WE GO TO LINE NUMBER 32,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. GREG BONDESON
WITH SACRAMENTO SUBURBAN WATER
DISTRICT OPPOSED UNLESS AMENDED
IN ALIGNMENT WITH AQUA. NEXT TO
GO TO LINE NUMBER 29. PLEASE GO
AHEAD. GOOD MORNING, PAUL
HELICOPTERS AND ONE WATER
DISTRICT WERE OPPOSED TO THE
BILL, AND EVEN THE COMMITTEE
AMENDMENTS DO NOT REMOVE THAT
OPPOSITION. NEXT WE'LL GO TO
LINE 31, PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD
MORNING. THIS IS SHARON GREENE
WITH THE LOS ANGELES COUNTY
SANITATION DISTRICTS. WE HAVE
HAD AN OPPOSING LESS AMENDED
POSITION AND WE ARE GOING TO
NEUTRAL BASED ON THAT COMMITTEE
AMENDMENTS ACCEPTED TODAY. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. WE'LL GO TO LINE
NUMBER 24, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
THANK YOU, HANNAH DAVIDSON ON
BEHALF OF THE HIDDEN VALLEY LAKE
COMMUNITY SERVICES DISTRICT. WE
ALIGN OUR POSITION WITH THE
ASSOCIATION OF CALIFORNIA WATER
AGENCIES AND OPPOSING LIST
AMENDED. NEXT. WE HAVE LINE
NUMBER 16, PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD
MORNING CHAIR AND MEMBERS. NO
AUTOMATIC WITH THE CITY OF
ROOSEVELT. WE APPRECIATE THE
SENATOR TAKING THE COMMITTEE
AMENDMENTS THIS MORNING. UM, I
WILL ASSOCIATE MY COMMENTS WITH
UH, AQUA AND BELIEVES THAT
ADDITIONAL WORK NEEDS TO BE DONE
SURROUNDING THE NEW, FUNDAMENTAL
SHIFT OF WORKFORCE TO REMOTE
WORKING. THANK YOU. AND NEXT WE
HAVE LINE NUMBER 31, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. 9 31. YOUR LINE IS OPEN.
PLEASE GO AHEAD. AUTHORITIES.
FOCUS. THANK YOU. AND AT THIS
TIME THERE ARE NO FURTHER LINES
IN. Q. THANK YOU, MODERATOR.
WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE. MANY MEMBERS, MS
RUBIO. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR
AND SENATOR HERZBERG. HE AND I
HAVE BEEN ON IN THE FOXHOLE ON
THESE ISSUES. PLENTY OF TIMES. I
REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK. UM
AND I KNOW YOU KNOW, WE'VE
TALKED ABOUT THE FISCAL FISCAL
IMPACT ON COVID AND THE WATER
RECYCLING PORTION OF IT, BUT I
WANT TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF THE
AH, THE FISCAL IMPACT NOT BEING
CONDUCTED. I IT'S DIFFICULT FOR
ME WHEN WE SPECIFICALLY STRIKE A
DEAL WHEN WE DID. WE WERE ALL IN
THIS ROOM. I THINK IN 2018 WHEN
THE DEAL WAS STRUCK, AND ONE OF
THE CONDITIONS WAS THAT WE DID A
FISCAL IMPACT, AND THAT WASN'T
DONE AND IT'S DIFFICULT FOR ME
TO CONTINUE ITS NOT JUST IN THIS
PARTICULAR COMMITTEE. BUT IN
GENERAL WHEN WE STRIKE DEALS,
AND WE COME BACK A FEW YEARS
LATER IN THAT DEAL IS NOT
FULFILLED. THEN THAT'S WHERE I
START HAVING ISSUES. THE FISCAL
FISCAL IMPACT IS REALLY
IMPORTANT. WE TALK ABOUT MAKING
SURE THAT THE LOW INCOME
COMMUNITIES THERE ARE HELP. YOU
KNOW, WE USE THAT A LOT, EXCEPT
FOR IN THIS CASE IF WE DON'T DO
THE FISCAL IMPACT, UM, ON OUR
WATER AGENCIES. THEN UM, MY
OPINION IS THAT, UH, IF THESE
COSTS ARE NOT, UH, THE AGENCIES
ARE NOT BEING HELPED. THEN THE
ONLY WAY TO CONTINUE THE WORK IS
BY PASSING ON THE COST TO THESE
COMMUNITIES THAT WE CAN CONTINUE
SAYING THAT WE WANT TO HELP. AND
SO FOR ME, IT'S NOT ABOUT
NECESSARILY ABOUT THE BILL. I
KNOW YOU'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK,
AND I APPRECIATE IT, BUT THE
FISCAL IMPACT IS THE STUDY HAS
NOT BEEN DONE, AND WE KEEP
STRIKING DEALS. BUT WE'RE NOT,
YOU KNOW, HERE WE ARE ALMOST
FOUR YEARS LATER, AND THAT DEAL
WASN'T AH, FULFILLED TO WHAT THE
REQUIREMENT WAS WHEN WE STRUCK
THE DYLAN IN 2018 AS WE
REQUESTED, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW
TO FIX IT RIGHT AT THE MOMENT.
BUT I WOULD LIKE, UM, SENATOR
HERZBERG TO REALLY CONSIDER UM,
YOU KNOW THAT WE DO THAT
ANALYSIS, I AGAIN FEAR THAT A
LOT OF THAT THAT COST IS GOING
TO BE PASSED ON TO THOSE LOW
INCOME RESIDENTS THAT WE KEEP
SAYING THAT WE WANT TO HELP
EXCEPT FOR WE'RE NOT. AND SO,
YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE ALL THE
WORK AND I KNOW I'VE BEEN THERE
WITH YOU. THAT YOU WILL, UM YOU
KNOW, DO THE BEST THAT YOU CAN
FOR THOSE COMMUNITIES. BUT I
AGREE WITH OUR AQUA FOLKS ABOUT
THE FISCAL IMPACT WAS NOT
CONDUCTED. AND YOU KNOW, I AM
LOOKING FOR MAYBE SOME
RESOLUTION. THAT'S HOW TO
ADDRESS THAT. DO WE WAIT? FOR
THAT IMPACT TO BE DONE AGAIN. I
DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN FIX IT
RIGHT NOW. BUT I'M HOPING THAT
THOSE CONVERSATIONS CONTINUE AND
AGAIN, I TRUST THAT YOU WILL DO
THE BEST FOR OUR COMMUNITIES AS
POSSIBLE, MADAM. SURE. CAN I
RESPOND? YES. THANK YOU VERY
QUICK POINTS. UH SIMILAR NUMBER
ONE IS THAT THERE WAS A JOINT
STUDY BY THE DEPARTMENT OF WATER
RESOURCES AND THE SOUTH AND THE
WATER RESOURCES CONTROL BOARD
THAT REVIEWED WATER USE BY
INCOME AND FOUND THAT LOW INCOME
HOUSEHOLDS USE LESS WATER THAN
HIGHER INCOME HOUSEHOLDS AND
CONCLUDED THAT THE RECOMMENDED
STANDARDS WOULD NOT
DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACT
SUPPLIERS WITH HIGH PROPERTY
POVERTY RATES. SO THAT WAS DONE
BY THESE AGENCIES. NUMBER ONE
NUMBER TWO THERE WAS A STUDY
HERE'S A DRAFT STUDY DATED MAY
9TH 2022 BY THE CALIFORNIA STATE
UNIVERSITY, SACRAMENTO, WHICH
INCLUDED THE SACRAMENTO STATE
WATER PROGRAMS, YOU SILLY
INSTITUTE FOR ENVIRONMENTAL
SUSTAINABILITY. PLANT SCIENCES
AT U. C. DAVIS AND HUMBOLDT
STATE UNIVERSITY THAT TALKS
ABOUT THESE EFFECTS. THIRDLY THE
WONDERFUL MEETINGS THAT WE HAD
WITH SOME OF THE ADVOCATES WHO
SHARED SOME FURTHER DISCUSSION
WITH RESPECT TO THE IMPACTS ARE
IN FACT, THE AMENDMENTS BECAUSE
WHAT WE'RE DOING IS AS WE'VE SET
THESE STANDARDS WERE WORRIED
ABOUT THAT. SO THE POINTS THAT
WERE NEGOTIATED WITH THE
COMMITTEE AND WITH THE ADVOCATES
THAT RESULT IN THEM PULLING
THEIR OPPOSITION BASICALLY
BECAUSE FURTHER STUDIES TO
ASSESS AND QUANTIFY ECONOMIC
EFFECTS AND IMPACTS OF MEETINGS
THE 2030 INDOOR STANDARDS AND
GIVE SOME FLEXIBILITY IN THAT
REGARD. SO I WOULD SUGGEST THAT
THE STUDIES HAVE BEEN DONE. I
WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE PRINCIPAL
ARGUMENTS THAT THEY WEREN'T
SUFFICIENT THAT IN FACT, THAT SO
WHAT WE SAID IS YOU'RE RIGHT,
FINE. WE STILL WANT TO MEET
2030. BUT WE'RE GOING TO GIVE
YOU FLEXIBILITY. TO DO FURTHER
STUDIES TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT
AND GIVE FLEXIBILITY FOR FURTHER
VARIANCES. BECAUSE PART OF THIS
AS LIKE THE SWAMP COOLERS, FOR
EXAMPLE, THAT WERE SUGGESTED TO
ME IN THE DESERT COMMUNITIES
WHERE YOU HAVE VARIANCES FOR
THESE THINGS THAT WE'VE BUILT
THAT IN, BUT WE'RE IN THIS
HORRIBLE SITUATION WHERE WE CAN
MAKE WHATEVER POLICY WE WANT.
BUT IF THERE'S NOT ENOUGH WATER
RECYCLING WON'T HAPPEN. ALL OF
THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE CARE
ABOUT WON'T HAPPEN. NOT BECAUSE
OF ANYTHING ELSE OTHER THAN THEY
WERE JUST NOT GOING TO BE ENOUGH
WATER. AND SO WE'VE GOT TO BE
SMART ABOUT THAT. SO IT IS A
DELICATE DANCE, BUT I WOULD
SUGGEST IS THAT SOME OF THE
STUDIES HAVE BEEN DONE AND THAT
WHERE WE ARE NOW IS TO DO
FURTHER STUDIES AS WE MOVE
FORWARD WITH THE ABILITY TO CLAW
BACK IN THE EVEN, THERE'S SOME
SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS. SO THE, UM
MAYBE I'M I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING
THAT CORRECTLY BECAUSE I THOUGHT
THAT THAT IT WAS THE FISCAL
IMPACT THAT DWR WAS SUPPOSED TO
HAS NOT BEEN DONE. AND YOU'RE
SAYING THAT IT HAS BEEN OR THESE
ARE THE ANSWER IS, I THINK THAT
SOME OF IT HAS BEEN DONE AND
THAT THERE WAS SOME CONCERN THAT
ARE NOT ENOUGH OF IT'S BEEN
DONE. SO YES, PART OF IT'S BEEN
DONE, WE KNOW, AS WAS INDICATED
THE TESTIMONY FROM LOS ANGELES
ALONE THE SAVINGS WE KNOW THAT
THE IMPACT ON POOR PEOPLE THAT
USE LESS WATER SO THE STANDARDS
HAVE LESS IMPACT THAN SOMEBODY
WHO SAY LIVES IN BEL AIR. AND
SPENDS A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR
ON WATER AND THE LIKE. AND SO,
YES, IT'S BEEN DONE. BUT THE
IDEA IS THAT MORE NEEDS TO BE
DONE AND WE SAID YES, WE THINK
THAT'S FAIR. WE HAVE A PROBLEM
WITH THAT. BUT WE'RE IN THIS
VERY DELICATE TENSE WHERE YOU
KNOW WE DON'T CONTROL HOW MUCH
WATER IS GOING TO HAPPEN, SO
WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT.
IT WAS INDICATED. I'M A GIGANTIC
PROPONENT OF RECYCLED WATER, BUT
IF YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH WATER
IN THE SYSTEM, IT'S HARD TO
RECYCLE IT. SO THAT'S WHAT
THAT'S THE BALANCE WE'RE TRYING
TO MEET. YES, PART OF IT'S BEEN
DONE MORE IS GOING TO BE DONE
BASED UPON THE AMENDMENTS. AND I
THINK I'M SENSITIVE TO WHAT
YOU'RE SAYING. AND IF I MAY, SO
PART OF WHERE WE GOT TO WHERE WE
ARE IS SOME OF IT TO THE
SENATORS POINT HAS BEEN DONE.
BUT THE OPPOSITION RIGHTLY
POINTED OUT THAT NOT ENOUGH HAD
BEEN DONE ON THE IMPACT TO OUR
INFRASTRUCTURE. RIGHT AND HOW
WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO OUR
INFRASTRUCTURE WHEN LESS WATER
INDOOR RESIDENTIAL USES MOVING
THROUGH OUR SYSTEMS, AND THAT'S
WHAT THESE AMENDMENTS REALLY
FOCUSED ON WAS WHAT THEY WERE
POINTING OUT, AND WE SAW AS THE
MISSING PIECE OF THE PUZZLE. AND
GIVEN SORT OF I KNOW A DEAL WAS
STRUCK AND WE CAN ALL ARGUE
ABOUT WHETHER THEY DID THEIR JOB
OR NOT. THEY DIDN'T DO ENOUGH,
RIGHT? AND SO THIS IS REALLY
CLARIFYING EXACTLY WHAT IT SAID
IS NEEDED TO THOSE 2030 SANDERS
WITH ALSO THE FLEXIBILITY FOR
THERE TO BE ROOM FOR VARIANCES
WHERE WE SEE THAT THE
INFRASTRUCTURE CAN'T HANDLE IT,
AND COST WOULD GO TO THOSE
CONSUMERS. SO THAT'S WHERE THOSE
AMENDMENTS CAME FROM THE HOUSE
AND IN THE LAST NUMBER OF YEARS,
THINGS HAVE GOTTEN WORSE. AND WE
HAVE TO COURSE CORRECT. THAT'S
OUR JOB AS POLICYMAKERS AND WE
HAD IN WATER POLICY, YOU CAN'T
JUST ALL OF A SUDDEN PASS ALONG
AND CHANGED TOMORROW MORNING.
YOU'VE GOT TO BE THINKING WAY IN
ADVANCE. AND SO I THOUGHT WITH
THE ELEGANCE ABOUT THIS IN THE
WATER POINT OF VIEW THAT I LIKE
AND WATER POLICY. IS WE'RE
MOVING FORWARD, BUT WE'RE ALSO
RESPECTING AND CONTINUING TO
COURSE CORRECT, AND I SUSPECT IN
THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS IT'LL
BE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO
MORE. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
THANK YOU, MR FRIEDMAN. THANK
YOU. I WANT TO FIRST THANK THE
SENATOR FOR HIS MANY YEARS OF
WORK ON WATER ISSUES AND FOR HIS
PARTNERSHIP. ON THIS AND ON THE
BILLS THAT PRECEDED IT, AND IT
WAS A MULTIYEAR EXERCISE THAT
HAD A LOT OF THE SAME SUPPORTERS
AND THE SAME OPPONENTS. UM AND I
SUSPECT THAT IT WILL CONTINUE TO
DO THAT. AND JUST FOR THE
MEMBERS MAYBE WHO WEREN'T HERE
THEN JUST TO TAKE A STEP BACK.
WHAT THIS BILL ACTUALLY IS
TRYING TO DO AND WHAT THESE
POLICIES ARE TRYING TO DO. IS TO
MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE SOME
CONSISTENT UNDERSTANDING ACROSS
THE STATE OF HOW MUCH WATER WE
EXPECT PEOPLE TO BE USING. WHICH
DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A BIG DEAL.
BUT IT REALLY IS WHEN YOU HAVE
PARTS OF THE STATE WHO HAVE NOT
INVESTED MUCH IN WATER
EFFICIENCY, WHO DON'T PUSH A
MESSAGE OF CONSERVATION AND YOU
HAVE OTHER PARTS OF THE STATE
THAT ARE EXTREMELY THRIFTY. THE
IDEA IS THAT WE HAVE SOME
REASONABLE STANDARD THAT SORT OF
COMES INTO THE MIDDLE AND GIVES
ALL AGENCIES THE EXPECTATION OF
HOW MUCH WATER THEY EXPECT THEIR
USERS TO BE USING. AND THE
REASON FOR. THAT IS BECAUSE
AGENCIES ARE THE ONES WHO OFTEN
INVEST IN HELPING THEIR USERS
BECOME MORE EFFICIENT. CODES IS
ONE THING, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT
AREAS THAT ARE THRIFTIER AND
WATER, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA IN LOS
ANGELES AND SAN DIEGO, YOU HAVE
AGENCIES THAT PUT A LOT OF MONEY
INTO HELPING PEOPLE UPGRADE
THEIR OWN HOMES TO WITH WATER
EFFICIENT DEVICES LIKE LOW FLOW
TOILETS. SHOWER HEADS CERTAIN
TYPES OF METERS, EVEN MAYBE
HELPING THEM WITH DRIP
IRRIGATION SYSTEMS. THIS KIND OF
THING YOU HAVE OTHER PARTS OF
THE STATE THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN AT
ALL. YOU STILL HAVE PARTS OF THE
STATE WHERE WE HAVE A LOT OF
PEOPLE DON'T EVEN HAVE WATER
METERS. SO WHAT ENDS UP
HAPPENING IS THAT IF YOU HAPPEN
TO BE LUCKY ENOUGH TO LIVE IN
ONE OF THOSE AREAS WATER IS NOT
A BIG DEAL. OTHER PARTS IT IS
AND SO THIS WAS BECAUSE THE
WATER THAT WE USE IN CALIFORNIA
BELONG TO ALL OF US. THEY COME
THROUGH WATER TREATIES. THEY'RE
DISTRIBUTED THROUGHOUT THE
STATE, AND PARTICULARLY IN TIMES
LIKE NOW WHERE WE'RE IN DROUGHT,
WHICH BY THE WAY COULD BE
FOREVER. I MEAN, THIS MAY BE
SOMETHING WHERE WE STOP USING
THE TERM DROUGHT AND THIS IS
JUST OUR NEW REALITY. WE'VE GOT
TO BE EFFICIENT AND THRIFTY WITH
EVERY DROP OF THAT WATER
THROUGHOUT THE STATE, AND THAT'S
THIS BILL IS THE ONLY WAY WE
HAVE TO DO THAT. WHAT IT SAYS.
IS THAT FOR YOUR INDOOR USERS,
WE EXPECT A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF
CONSERVATION. WE EXPECT THEM TO
USE A CERTAIN AMOUNT AND IT'S
NOT ON THE INDIVIDUAL USERS.
IT'S ON THE AGENCIES TO SAY,
HEY, WE'RE ABOVE THAT AMOUNT TO
GET IN COMPLIANCE. MAYBE WE'LL
START A PROGRAM OF TOILET
REPLACEMENTS. MAYBE WE'LL START
A PROGRAM TO HELP PEOPLE AUDIT
THE IRRIGATION, ETCETERA. WE
KNOW THAT WORKS BECAUSE SOUTHERN
CALIFORNIA LOS ANGELES HAS ADDED
MILLIONS OF PEOPLE AND YET LOSES
USES LESS WATER THAN THEY USED
TO. UM SO THAT'S WHAT THIS BILL
DOES, AND I THINK IT'S REALLY,
REALLY IMPORTANT. IT'S REALLY
IMPORTANT THAT WE CODIFY THESE
STANDARDS THAT WE HAVE NOW SPENT
YEARS DISCUSSING IN YEARS
STUDYING AND WE KNOW THAT WE CAN
DO IT BECAUSE WE HAVE NOW WHAT
WAS IT? 30% OF THE USERS ARE
ALREADY THE AGENCIES ARE ALREADY
MEETING THIS STANDARD. SO THIS
IS NOT A STRETCH GOAL. THIS IS
NOT AN ASPIRATIONAL STANDARD.
THIS IS A STANDARD THAT'S BEING
MET RIGHT NOW. AND THE STUDIES
THAT WERE DONE SHOW THAT THIS IS
IN LINE WITH THE TRENDS AND
WATER BECAUSE PEOPLE IN
CALIFORNIA HAVE GOTTEN THE
MESSAGE. AND NOW WHEN THEY GO TO
HOME DEPOT, THEY BUY THE LOW
FLOW TOILET OR THEY, YOU KNOW
THEY THEY BUY THE STUFF THAT'S
MORE EFFICIENT BECAUSE IT'S ON
THE SHELF, SO THIS IS NOT AN
ASPIRATIONAL GOAL. IN FACT,
THERE'S MANY PEOPLE IN THE
ENVIRONMENTAL COMMUNITY THAT
FELT THAT THIS GOAL WAS WAY TOO
LOW WAY TOO LOW. BECAUSE WE
ALREADY THERE, RIGHT. WE'RE
ALREADY PARTS OF THE STATE
AGENCIES HAVE ALREADY BEATING
THIS. THIS IS LIKE THIS IS EASY.
SO YOU KNOW, VOTING FOR THIS. I
MEAN, THE STANDARD SORRY. 37%
37% 37% OF THE STATE IS ALREADY
MEETING THIS. SO WE'VE GOT TO
MAKE SURE THAT EVERY AGENCY IS
ON BOARD THAT EVERY AGENCY LOOKS
AT LEAKS IN THEIR SYSTEM BECAUSE
THAT COUNTS TOWARDS US
EVERYTHING ELSE. NOW, IN TERMS
OF THE RECLAIMED WATER ISSUE, I
HAVE TO SAY THAT I LOVE THE
RECLAIMED WATER INDUSTRY. THEY
DO A GREAT JOB, BUT THERE'S
SOMETHINGVERY PERVERSE AT
TELLING PEOPLE IN THE MIDDLE OF
THE DROUGHT WHEN WE HAVE
AGENCIES SAYING SAVE WATER, SAVE
WATER. SAVE WATER TURN, YOU KNOW
USED SHORTER SHOWERS. WHATEVER
IT IS, WE HAVE AN EIGHT. WE HAVE
A INDUSTRY, THE WATER RECYCLED
WATER INDUSTRY THAT'S SAYING OH,
NO, WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO
CONSERVE ITS LESS WATER GOING
INTO OUR SYSTEMS. THIS IS A REAL
PROBLEM. WHICH IS BASICALLY WHAT
WE JUST HEARD. UM THAT'S
SOMETHING THAT AT SOME POINT
WE'LL HAVE TO DISCUSS WITH
POTABLE REUSE. THERE'S CERTAINLY
AN ARGUMENT, BUT MOST OF THIS
WATER IS NOT POTABLE. MOST OF
THIS WATER IS GOING TO
LANDSCAPES THAT THEY'RE TALKING
ABOUT NOT TO CROPS BECAUSE THIS
IS AN URBAN WATER BILL, BUT
GOING TO LANDSCAPES WE HAVE
STILL GOT TO MAKE THAT SURE THAT
THAT PRECIOUS COMMODITY IS
CONSERVED. SO I THINK IT'S VERY
IMPORTANT.WE PASSED THIS OUT
TODAY. I WOULD I KNOW THAT THE
CONVERSATIONS ARE GOING TO JUST,
YOU KNOW, ALWAYS CONTINUE AT THE
WATER BOARD. WE'RE ALWAYS GOING
TO EVOLVE WITH OUR SITUATIONS,
BUT WE'VE GOT TO GET EVERY
AGENCY TO TAKE CONSERVATION
SERIOUSLY. AND REALIZE THAT YOU
KNOW, RECLAIMED WATER IS GREAT.
IT'S GREAT TO USE ON LANDSCAPES
. BUT RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE
THE LUXURY. WE'VE GOT TO MAKE
SURE THAT WE THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH
WATER FOR EVERYBODY TO DRINK IN
THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, AND
THIS BILL HELPS CODIFY THAT.
THANKS. THANK YOU. MR FRIEDMAN.
MR WARD. THANK YOU. I WOULD ECHO
EVERYTHING FROM MY COLLEAGUE
FROM GLENDALE AS WELL IN THIS. I
WANT TO THANK YOU FOR WORKING ON
THIS BILL FOR WORKING ON THIS
VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE, AND I
THINK, AS YOU WOULD PUT PUT IT
TO BE ABLE TO THINK FORWARD
THINKING IN ADVANCE ABOUT WHERE
WE NEED TO BE. A LOT OF THE
TESTIMONY IS REALLY CITING THE
NEED THAT WE HAVE TODAY. AND THE
CRISIS THAT WE'RE IN HERE TODAY.
EIGHT YEARS FROM NOW, WE VERY
MUCH WELBY AND WE VERY WELL,
MAYBE IN A NEWER, NORMAL THAT IS
NOT JUST, UM, CONSISTENT WITH
WHAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING TODAY.
THE RESPONSES THAT WE HAVE TODAY
, BUT WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT
GOING EVEN DEEPER. REMINDED THAT
TODAY WE ARE IN A LEVEL TO
DROUGHT EMERGENCY THAT HAS
PUTTING OUT THAT EDUCATION THAT
PEOPLE NEED TO CONSERVE ASKING
PEOPLE TO PREPARE FOR A 20%
REDUCTION SHORTAGE IN 20%
REDUCTION TO DELIVERED WATER.
WITHIN OUR LOCAL COMMUNITIES
RIGHT NOW, WHAT KIND OF
RESPONSES CAN PEOPLE BE DOING
RIGHT NOW? TO MAKE SURE THAT TAP
STILL FLOWS THAT WOULD BE
CONSISTENT WITH? I THINK A
PROPORTIONAL REDUCTION THAT
YOU'RE PROPOSING EVEN UNDER THIS
BILL EIGHT YEARS FROM NOW, GOING
FROM 50 TO 42 IS ACTUALLY IN
WHAT 18% SO, UM, WE DO NEED TO
HEAD IN THAT DIRECTION. WE'RE
LOOKING AT THE TOTAL. PIE OF
WHAT WE HAVE TO WORK AT THE
TOTAL AMOUNT OF WATER THAT WE
HAVE TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITH.
AND RECOGNIZING THAT MADE ME
SHRINK EVEN AS WE'RE ALSO STILL
TRYING TO BALANCE THE FISCAL
ISSUES THAT BOTH OUR AGENCIES
AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, OUR
RATEPAYERS NEED TO BE ABLE TO
BALANCE AS WELL. UM, I LIKED
WHERE YOU KNOW IT WAS MINDFUL
AND STUDYING VERY CLOSELY. WHAT
AQUA POINTS ARE AS WELL UM, THAT
WE WANT TO THINK ABOUT ANY
ISSUES ABOUT WHETHER WE NEEDED
TO LEAD IMPLEMENTATION. WHETHER
FUTURE STUDY FUTURE INFORMATION
WOULD BE ABLE TO HELP TO ALLOW
FOR SOME OF THAT, UM ON MY READ.
AND OF COURSE, YOU'RE GOING TO
BE ABLE TO TAKE THAT BACK AND BE
ABLE TO ANALYZE FOR YOURSELVES.
I'M VERY GRATEFUL FOR THE
COMMITTEE'S HARD WORK ON THIS
BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE GETTING
THERE TO BE ABLE TO ALLOW THAT
FLEXIBILITY. I THINK YOU WOULD.
RECOGNIZED ALREADY OR WORKING ON
VARIANCES AND OTHER STANDARDS
THAT ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO
MAKE THIS ACTUALLY FEASIBLE. BUT
WE DO HAVE TO GET THERE BECAUSE
OF THE REALITIES THAT ARE IN
FRONT OF US. UM CLOSER TO HOME.
I'M VERY SENSITIVE TO WHAT MY
COUNTY'S WATER AUTHORITY AND THE
CITY OF SAN DIEGO AND THEIR
INTERESTS. ALTHOUGH THEY'RE NOT
OPPOSED TO THE BILL, THEY'RE
ACTIVELY STUDYING IT AND
COMMUNICATING WITH ME AND MY
OFFICE IS WE'VE GOT A MAJOR
INVESTMENT COMING UP IN PURE
WATER, MAJOR PORTABLE RECYCLED
AH, WATER AS WELL. THAT MIGHT
ACCOUNT FOR UP TO HALF OF OUR
MUNICIPAL RESIDENTIAL WATER
SUPPLY SO WELL, THAT DOES THIS
KIND OF A STANDARD CHANGE THE
FEASIBILITY FOR SOME OF THAT,
THAT THAT THAT PROJECT I KNOW
THAT THESE THESE THIS ANALYSIS
IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW IS THIS
BILL IS MOVING FORWARD. UM SO
I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT THIS GOING
FORWARD AS WELL. SOME OF THAT
INFORMATION IS GOING TO INFORM
MY FLOOR VOTE. HOPE THIS MAKES
IT TO THE FLOOR. BUT I ALSO HAVE
CONCERN ON YOU KNOW THE
FEASIBILITY FOR WHAT THIS MIGHT
DO FOR WORKING CALIFORNIA
FAMILIES THAT AND THE NEXT EIGHT
YEARS SHOULD BE MAKING SOME OF
THESE IMPROVEMENTS TO THEIR HOME
TO BE ABLE TO HELP THEM. MEET
THESE KINDS OF STANDARDS. ARE WE
DOING ENOUGH ON THE INCENTIVE
SIDES, RIGHT? I KNOW A LOT OF
THAT IS, UM BUDGET OR OTHER
ACTIONS THAT WE NEED TO DO TO BE
ABLE TO PUT THAT OUT THERE SO
THAT THEY CAN ACTUALLY FEASIBLY
MEET THESE GOALS WITHOUT HITTING
THEIR WALLETS HAPPY TO SUPPORT
THAT, TO EVERY EXTENT THAT THE
STATE IS ABLE TO DO THAT, SO
THERE'S A LOT IN MOTION HERE.
BUT I UNDERSTAND THE BROAD
PICTURE GOALS THAT THIS BILL
SETTING, SETTING UP TO ACHIEVE
GOALS THAT I DO AGREE WITH. SO
LET'S STAY THE COURSE. LET'S
KEEP WORKING ON THE DETAIL ON
THIS BECAUSE THAT MATTERS TO THE
AVERAGE FAMILY, THE AVERAGE USER
AND I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE
WORK THAT'S GOING ON. GONE IN ON
THIS TODAY. WAS THERE A SECOND
OR OH, I'LL MOVE THE. ALMOST A
BILL AND I DID WANT TO MAKE ONE
MORE COMMENT. IF I MAY JUST
BECAUSE I LOVE TALKING ABOUT
WATER, JUST ABOUT POTABLE REUSE
. POTABLE REUSE, I THINK IS THE
FUTURE, BUT IT'S ALSO EXTREMELY
EXPENSIVE. THAT'S EXTREMELY
EXPENSIVE WATER TO PRODUCE. SO I
THINK THAT THE IDEA OF
CONSERVING IT BECOMES ACTUALLY
EVEN MORE IMPORTANT WHEN YOU'RE
WHEN THE WATER THAT YOU'RE KIND
OF SERVING YOUR CUSTOMERS IS
EXPENSIVE WATER. UM, YOU KNOW,
ONE OTHER THING. I JUST WANT TO
STRESS IS THAT THIS IS NOT YOU
KNOW, THE IDEA OF THIS IS NOT TO
BE PUNITIVE TO WATER USERS AND
WHAT WE'VE LEARNED IN SOUTHERN
CALIFORNIA IS THAT WHEN YOU
INVEST IN EFFICIENCY AND IN
HELPING PEOPLE BECOME EFFICIENT
. YOU HAVE MORE WATER TO USE FOR
THE PLACES YOU WANT TO USE IT
WHEN YOU TEACH PEOPLE ABOUT
STOPPING LEAKS ABOUT THE ACTUAL
COST OF THOSE DRINKING FAUCET,
LEAKY FAUCETS WHEN YOU CHANGE
YOUR LANDSCAPE IRRIGATION SO
THAT YOU'RE NOT SPRAYING WATER
TO EVAPORATE IN THE AIR, BUT USE
DRIP IRRIGATION. YOU CAN STILL
HAVE ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU
WANT. WELL, MAYBE NOT TURF, BUT
YOU CAN STILL HAVE REALLY
BEAUTIFUL PLANTS. YOU CAN STILL
HAVE A HEALTHY GARDEN. YOU CAN
STILL HAVE A GREAT QUALITY OF
LIFE. YOU CAN STILL TAKE A
SHOWER AND WASH YOUR DOG ON THE
SAME DAY AND YOU DO YOUR LAUNDRY
THE SAME DAY WE USE LESS THAN
THAT IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA THAT
LESS THAN THIS AMOUNT OF WATER
AND WE'RE ABLE TO DO ALL THOSE
THINGS BECAUSE WE HAVE INVESTED
IN EFFICIENCY. AND THAT'S WHAT
THIS BILL WILL CREATE, NOT JUST
IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA BUT
ACROSS THE STATE. THEY GET HAPPY
HAVING A SECOND BILL AGREE WITH
ALL THOSE POINTS. I MEAN, I
REMEMBER FROM MY CITY COUNCIL
DAYS, I THINK 8 TO 10% OF OUR
MUNICIPAL SYSTEM HAS LOST TO
LEAKS, SO THERE'S A LOT MORE TO
DO WITHIN THE TOTAL SYSTEM. MUCH
OF THAT CAN BE ABSORBED BY AND
ACTUALLY HELP ON A PER CAPITA%
BASIS THAT'S ACTUALLY MEET THESE
IMPROVED GOALS AS WELL. SO WE'LL
GET THERE AGAIN. THANK YOU FOR
ALL THE HARD WORK. THANK YOU FOR
WORKING WITH THE COMMITTEE STAFF
AS WELL. I THINK IT'S GOING TO
BE HEADING IN THE RIGHT
DIRECTION. THANK YOU, MR WARD.
MR V VALLAPUDUA. UM NOT JUST THE
DRESS, THE SENATOR, BUT MR
FREEMAN. I MEAN, I THINK WE'RE I
HAVE PEOPLE THAT WORK IN MY
DISTRICT. THEY GO TO THE BARRIER
TO BUILD HOMES. AND YET THEY
STILL CAN'T AFFORD TO BUY A
HOME. BECAUSE OF THE COST THE
NEW COSTS ON ON HOMES. IT'S
PENCILED IN BEFORE EVEN POUR THE
FOUNDATION ABOUT $200,000. AND I
STRUGGLE WITH THAT SOMETIMES I
KNOW THAT WE'RE ALL DOING. WHAT
WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING HERE
IS BEING MORE EFFICIENT. UM
YEARS BACK IN MY DISTRICT. FEMA.
PUT. A BIG CHUNK OF MY DISTRICT
IN IN THE MAPS. SO WHAT? WHAT
WAS THAT IT INCREASED THE
INSURANCE COSTS. ALL THESE FOLKS
THAT WERE MIKE ALL THE PHONE
CALLS THAT I WAS GETTING WERE
SENIORS IN MY DISTRICT. THAT
WE'RE YELLING AND YOU KNOW,
CHEWING ME OUT BECAUSE THEY
THOUGHT IT WAS ME DOING THAT. IT
WAS ACTUALLY FEMALE. MM AND I
AND I MY QUESTION IS THIS IS
THAT YOU KNOW WE WERE TALKING
ABOUT THE BUDGET YESTERDAY AND I
HEARD MR FONG MENTIONED THAT
WE'RE NOT EVEN PUTTING MONEY.
THE STATES I AIN'T PUTTING
MONEY. FOR OUR DROUGHT. YET.
WE'RE OVER HERE TRYING TO, YOU
KNOW, FIX THE PROBLEM, WHICH IS
A GREAT PROBLEM. BUT THE
QUESTION I HAVE IS AQUA IS I
MEAN, DID WE TAKE ALL THE
AMENDMENTS FROM MOCKLER? NO, NO.
YEAH AND I THINK THAT THAT'S
THAT'S FOR ME AT THE END OF THE
DAY. UM I THINK THAT PERCENTAGE
OF FOLKS I THINK OF MY SENIORS
THAT LIVE IN MY DISTRICT THAT
IT'S GOING TO BE A COST AT THEM.
WE DON'T KNOW THAT. WELL I KNOW
FOR A FACT THAT IN OUR CITIES
YOU KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE
TO ADJUST. I GET THAT. BUT A LOT
OF MY COMMUNITY CANNOT AFFORD
THAT. SO AS WE CONTINUE TO BUILD
A NEW HOMES, AND THAT'S ALREADY
IMPLEMENTED. IT'S ALREADY A
FIXED COST THAT THEY'RE BUYING
THE HOME. BUT IN MY DISTRICT I
HAVE A LOT OF SENIORS THAT JUST
CAN'T THEY CAN'T ADD ANY MORE
COST TO IT. THICK SINKER, SO I'M
I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THEM
, AND I WISH I DID. I WISH IT IF
WE KEEP MOVING INTO THIS, WHICH
IS A GREAT IDEA, BUT I'M JUST
SAYING, HOW DO I? HOW DO I GIVE
THIS ANSWER BACK TO MY
COMMUNITY? HOW DO I GIVE AN
ANSWER BACK? MY TO MY SENIORS
THAT LIVE IN MY DISTRICT THAT
THERE MIGHT BE AN ADDED COST
HERE. THANK YOU, MR VALLAPUDUA.
I'LL ANSWER THAT. MY CLOTHES.
THANK YOU, MR COLLAR. THANK YOU,
MADAM CHAIR NOW I WANT TO THANK
YOU AND YOUR AND YOUR STAFF AND
THE AUTHOR. I THINK THE
AMENDMENTS DO A REALLY GOOD JOB,
PARTICULARLY ON THE REPORTING
AND THE ABILITY TO CLAW BACK IF
SOME OF THE FEARS ARE REALIZED,
I THINK THAT ULTIMATELY I DON'T
THINK THAT THEY WILL BE
REALIZED. BUT I DO THINK THAT
IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THAT IN
THERE. UM BECAUSE WE NEED WE DO
NEED TO STUDY THIS AS WE GO
FORWARD. NOW. I THINK WE NEED TO
OH, AND I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT
FOLKS DON'T TAKE IT SERIOUSLY.
BUT I THINK THAT ALL
CALIFORNIANS NEED TO HAVE A VERY
SERIOUS WAKE UP CALL. AS TO THE
DIRE SITUATION WHEREIN AS IT
APPLIES TO THE DROUGHT AND
SUPPLIES FOR WATER SUPPLIES. UM
I THINK THAT WE HAVE BEEN
DEALING WITH IT FOR SOME TIME.
BUT THE REALITY IS IT'S NOT A
MATTER OF IF, BUT WHEN AND THE
WHEN IS NOW. UM AND I DO. I WANT
TO ECHO THOSE SENTIMENTS FROM
THE SOMA FRIEDMAN IN TERMS OF
THE MESSAGING FROM THE RECYCLED
WATER COMMUNITY. I DON'T THINK
SHOULD BE THAT. YOU KNOW, LESS
WATER COMING INTO OUR SYSTEM%
MAKES MORE DIFFICULT, BUT I WILL
SAY THAT THERE ARE, UM, REALLY
IMPORTANT USES OF RECYCLED WATER
THAT I KNOW THAT WE CERTAINLY
IMPLEMENTING IN SAN JOSE. WHICH
INCLUDES REPLENISHING OUR
AQUIFERS, WHICH DOES COME BACK
INTO OUR WATER SYSTEM. SO I
THINK THAT THAT'S ONE OF THE
USES AND THE OTHER ONE IS
INDUSTRIAL USES. UM YOU KNOW,
100, WE HAVE 100 50 MILES OF
PURPLE PIPES IN THE SOUTH BAY,
FOUR BILLION GALLONS A YEAR, AND
MANY OF THE MANY MUCH OF THAT
WATER GOES TO INDUSTRIAL USES.
WHETHER IT'S A SERVER FARM OR
OTHER, YOU KNOW, PROTECT
MANUFACTURING SIDE THAT NEEDS TO
HAVE COOLING SYSTEMS THAT THEY
DIDN'T HAVE THAT RECYCLED WATER.
THEY'D BE USING AIR
CONDITIONING. AND IT MUCH
ANOTHER COST TO SOCIETY IN TERMS
OF THE EMISSIONS. AND WHAT HAVE
YOU WITH THAT? SO I DO THINK,
THOUGH I WOULD AGREE WITH THE
CINEMA FRIEDMAN THAT YOU KNOW,
THERE IS A LOT THAT GOES TO THE
LANDSCAPING. WHAT HAVE YOU THAT?
YOU KNOW, BUT WILL HAVE TO BE A
PART OF THE CONVERSATION GOING
FORWARD. IT WAS THE BEST USE OF
THE RECYCLED WATER AND HAVE THE
MOST EFFICIENT USE AND A LOT.
LAST THING I'LL MENTION IN TERMS
OF WORKING CLASS. THE WORKING
CLASS WAS ALREADY PAYING. APPLE
FOR IT NOW, THE WORKING CLASS
ALWAYS PAYS WHEN WE DON'T GET A
HANDLE ALL THESE SERIOUS
SITUATIONS. WHEN I WAS GROWING
UP, I'D GO I'D GO TO INDIA. UM
AND THE WATER. UM MY FAMILY. WE
GET WATER FROM THE TOP OF THE
TOP OF TURN OFF BY ADM. SO
THEY'D HAVE TO FILL BUCKETS OF
WATER AND WHATEVER, WHERE
THEY'RE ABLE TO FILL WAS THE
WATER REHAB FOR THAT DAY. UM WE
WEREN'T WEALTHY. WE, YOU KNOW,
THE WEALTHY FAMILIES WERE FINE
BECAUSE THEY HAD BIG STORAGE
TANKS, AND THEY HAD ALL THE
WATER THEY NEEDED. UM BUT IT WAS
THE POOR AND THE WORKING CLASS
FAMILIES WHERE YOU KNOW TO TAKE
A TAKE A BATH. I WOULD JUST GET
A LITTLE LITTLE BUCKET AND POUR
THE WATER OVER YOUR HEAD. AND
BECAUSE I WAS A SPOILED AMERICAN
KID THAT HEAT UP A COUPLE OF
POTS OF WATER AND THROW IT IN
THERE, SO IT WASN'T FRIGID. BUT
THAT'S THE REALITY THAT SO MUCH
OF THE WORLD HAS TO RECKON WITH.
WE ARE SPOILED IN A GOOD WAY. I
THINK THAT WE'VE DONE A LOT OF
RESPONSIBLE THINGS AS WELL. BUT
I THINK THAT WE NEED TO WAKE UP
IN TERMS OF HOW SERIOUS OF A
SITUATION WE'RE IN. IT'S NOT
GOING TO BE EASY. IT'S NOT
SUPPOSED TO BE EASY WHEN YOU
TAKE WHEN YOU WHEN YOU HANDLE AN
ISSUE OF THIS IMPORTANCE IS
GOING TO CAUSE TENSION AND
STRAIN AND I THINK WE HAVE TO BE
SENSITIVE THAT INCLUDING THE
OPPOSITION, ENSURE THAT LOOK,
YOU KNOW WE HAVE TO INVEST. WE
HAVE TO INVEST. IN UPGRADING OF
APPLIANCES FOR LOW INCOME
FAMILIES AND WORKING CLASS
FAMILIES. AND FOR SENIORS IS
SOMETHING THAT WE ALREADY DO. WE
HAVE TO DO MORE OF IT. AND SO I
THINK THAT WE ALL HAVE TO BE
KIND OF ROWING IN THE SAME
DIRECTION, SO TO SPEAK. UM BUT
I'M ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT THIS BILL
. I THINK THE AMENDMENTS MAKE IT
BETTER. UH AND I THINK THAT
WE'RE GOING TO BE REVISITING
THIS ISSUE IN THE YEARS AHEAD AS
WE SHOULD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
MR SMITH. DID YOU WANT TO SAY
THANK YOU VERY MUCH SHARE. MY
QUESTION. CONCERNS ARE A LOT BUT
IN REGARDS TO THE EVAPORATIVE
COOLERS. THESE COOLERS OF CAR
WATER TO EVAPORATE TO KEEP THE
HOME SCHOOL. YOUR BILL DOES NOT
TAKING ACCOUNT. EVAPORATED WATER
COOLERS USE. TO MIX THE, UM,
STANDARDS UNACHIEVABLE, BUT
SPECIFICALLY, IS THERE BEEN A
STUDY? IN REGARDS TO THE
EVAPORATIVE COOLERS, LET ALONE
IN MY DISTRICT IN THE HIGH
DESERT OR THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE
STATE. PART OF THE STUDIES THAT
HAVE BEEN DONE OR HAVEN'T BEEN
DONE YET. I DON'T KNOW THE
ANSWER THAT QUESTION IF THERE'S
BEEN STUDIES SOMEWHERE ON THIS
WHAT I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT
WITH RESPECT TO THE IMPORTANCE
OF YOUR QUESTION. IS THAT THE
WAY THE PROCESS WORKS IS WHEN
YOU LOOK AT THE STANDARDS OF
INDOOR STANDARDS, OUTDOOR
STANDARDS AND WATER LOSS, THEN
THOSE STANDARDS YOU LOOK TO
VARIANCES THE VARIANTS FOR
COMMUNITIES IKE YOURS AND THE
COMMUNITY THAT I GREW UP IN
WHERE WE HAD SWAMP COOLERS AT
THE TOP OF OUR ROOFS AND STUFF
THAT IT APPLIES FOR VARIANCES
FOR THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES, SO
THERE IS FLEXIBILITY BUILT IN
BECAUSE OF THAT, AND SECONDLY,
THERE'S ALSO FLEXIBILITY BUILT
IN FROM THE AMENDMENTS THAT FOR
FURTHER STUDIES AND FURTHER
ADJUSTMENTS ACCORDINGLY, SO I
FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT THAT THAT
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THAT IS
UNDER CONSIDERATION. I THINK
IT'S LEGITIMATE ISSUE. MHM THANK
YOU. ANYBODY YES. THIS CASE?
YEAH. THANK YOU. I SO. WE NEED
TO DO. WE NEED TO BE MOVING IN
THIS DIRECTION. SO I WANT TO
START OFF BY SAYING THAT, BUT I
ALSO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE
DID NOT DO A GOOD JOB OF HELPING
LOW INCOME INDIVIDUALS TAP INTO
THESE PROGRAMS OUT THERE
WHATEVER THEY MIGHT BE A HAVE
ONE OF THOSE DISTRICTS AND FOLKS
REACH OUT TO ME REGULARLY TO SAY
WE ARE NOT MEETING GOALS AT ALL.
HOW CAN YOU HELP US? SO IT'S
GOOD QUESTION. BUT THE REALITY
IS THAT IT'S NOT DOING MORE OF
WHAT WE'RE DOING IS DOING IT
BETTER, AND WE HAVEN'T FIGURED
THAT OUT YET. AND THE REALITY IS
THAT MY DISTRICT YEAH, IT'S SOME
OF THE SMARTEST WATER USAGE
BECAUSE WE CAN'T AFFORD THE
WATER PERIOD. AND SO I REMEMBER
WHEN JERRY BROWN SAID, 25% CUT
ACROSS THE STATE, AND I WAS LIKE
, AM I SUPPOSED TO STOP
SHOWERING BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW
WHAT ELSE WE'RE GOING TO DO IN
MY DISTRICT AND THERE WAS A
STUDY AND A REASSESSMENT. THEY
CAME BACK WITH THE 2% BECAUSE I
FELT WE NEEDED TO DO SOMETHING.
BUT THEY WERE LIKE YOU'RE SOME
OF THE VICES WITH YOUR WATER
ALREADY. AND IT'S BECAUSE WE
CAN'T AFFORD IT. AH AND SO THE
REALITY IS THAT THESE
INVESTMENTS MIGHT BE NEEDED, BUT
THEY'RE GOING TO INCREASE OUR
RATES WERE ALREADY SAYING THAT
WE ARE IN A DROUGHT. THIS IS OUR
NEW REALITY. I AGREE WITH MS
FREEMAN AND MR CARVER IS NOT A
JOB IN YOUR REALITY, AND IT'S
SCARY. AH THAT WHAT WE HAVE OUT
THERE, AND IT'S REALLY SCARY FOR
COMMUNITIES LIKE MINE FOR
COMMUNITIES LIKE YOURS. AND SO I
THINK WE SHOULDN'T BE DISMISSIVE
OF THE FACT THAT WE'RE NOT DOING
THAT WELL RIGHT NOW, AND IT'S
GOING TO GET EVEN SCARIER FOR
THESE LOW INCOME PEOPLE FOR OUR
SENIORS, AND THAT'S THE SCARY
PART FOR ME, BECAUSE I KNOW WE
NEED TO DO SOME OF THIS. BUT I'M
WORRIED ABOUT THE OTHER SIDE. IT
WAS LIKE, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO
MAKE SURE WE DO THAT BETTER
BECAUSE WE'RE NOT DOING IT WELL.
MHM. WELL I WANT TO THANK THE
COMMITTEE FOR THIS ROBUST
DISCUSSION, AND I THINK YOU
KNOW, WE ALL AGREE THAT WATER IS
INCREDIBLY PRECIOUS AND LIFE
SAVING. AND I THINK THE WORK
YOU'RE DOING HERE IS REALLY
IMPORTANT. I WANT TO THANK YOU
FOR TAKING THE COMMITTEE'S
AMENDMENTS. I THINK WE WORKED
HARD, AND I WANT TO GIVE KUDOS
TO OUR CHIEF CONSULTANT AS WELL.
FOR REALLY TRYING TO DRIVE A
BALANCE BETWEEN MOVING IN THE
DIRECTION WE NEED TO MOVE AND
FINDING THE FINDING A WAY TO
ADDRESS WHAT COULD BE
SIGNIFICANT COSTS WHICH WILL
PASS ON TO OUR CONSUMERS AND WE
KNOW WOULD HURT OUR LOW INCOME
COMMUNITIES THE MOST, AND SO
HOPEFULLY WE HAVE STRUCK A GOOD
BALANCE, ALTHOUGH I KNOW YOU'LL
CONTINUE TO TALK TO THE
OPPOSITION ON THE REMAINING
TWEAKS THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR,
BUT I THINK WE HAVE MADE IT
REALLY FAR IN THIS CONVERSATION
TO WHAT I HOPE IS A GOOD PLACE.
AND I THINK WE SAW THAT WITH SO
MANY ORGANIZATIONS, UM PLEASED
TO SEE THE AMENDMENTS THAT
YOU'RE TAKING TODAY. SO I WANT
TO THANK YOU FOR THAT HARD WORK
AND YOUR CONTINUED FOCUS ON THE
FUTURE OF WATER HERE IN
CALIFORNIA, AND WITH THAT SECOND
PROJECT CLOSE. VERY BRIEFLY. I
THINK I WANT TO SHARE THANKS
REALLY IMPORTANT AS WE ENGAGE IN
URBAN WATER USE DESIRED. I'VE
BEEN IN THIS FOR SO LONG AND
WORKED IN SO MANY DIFFERENT
AREAS. YOU KNOW THE EGG
COMMUNITY. I GOTTA GO OUT TO THE
EYE IDEA, THE IMPERIAL
IRRIGATION DISTRICT AND THEY
TALKED TO US ABOUT YOU KNOW OUR
LAWNS AND OUR GOLF COURSES ARE
SWIMMING POOLS OR THE PEOPLE IN
CENTRAL VALLEY ABOUT GROWING
CROPS. THAT FEED THE NATION. OR
THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMUNITY THAT
NEEDS WATER FOR THE ENVIRONMENT
. YOU KNOW IT. IT IS. IT IS, AS
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S, FREEMAN SAYS.
IT IS BINDS US ALL TOGETHER. IT
IS A RESOURCE OF EVERY CORNER OF
ALL 58 COUNTIES OF THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA. AND WE HAVE TO THINK
ABOUT IT IN A HOLISTIC WAY. AND
SO YES, THERE'S CHALLENGES. I
WOULD SUGGEST IF WE DID NOTHING
COSTS WOULD GO UP BECAUSE IF
IT'S LESS WATER, THERE'S GOING
TO BE A HUGE IMPACTS. THERE'S
GOING TO BE IMPACTS AND
RECYCLING BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO
BE LESS WATER. SO THE QUESTION
HERE IS POLICYMAKERS. DO WE GET
AHEAD OF IT? AND WHAT WE'VE DONE
WITH RESPECT TO THE AMENDMENTS
AND WITH RESPECT TO THE WORK
THAT SOME OF THEM ARE, FREEMAN
AND I DID SOME YEARS AGO AS
WE'RE GETTING AHEAD OF IT, AND
WE'RE STAYING ON IT AND WE'RE
GOING TO FIGURE IT OUT AS WE
MOVE, BUT WE CAN'T SIT IDLY BY
AND DEAL WITH THIS AND WE'VE GOT
FLEXIBILITY. I'M COMFORTABLE
WITH IT. THE COSTS ARE GOING TO
BE THE COST. WE KNOW ALREADY
THAT POOR PEOPLE USE A LOT LESS
WATER ANYWAY. IN TERMS OF COSTS
. SO IN TERMS OF THOSE
SENSITIVITIES, WHICH I
COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU ON,
BUT IT IS AN ISSUE WE'RE GOING
TO FACE AND IF THERE'S LESS
WATER WE WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE IT
OUT. AND THE LAST POINT IS JUST
AS I SAID, WHEN I STARTED IS
THAT YOU CAN'T MAKE THESE
DECISIONS OVERNIGHT. THESE ARE
DECADE LONG DECISIONS.
EVERYTHING IN WATER TAKES
DECADES. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE NOT
8 10 YEARS AHEAD AND WE'VE GOT
TO STAY VIGILANT. AND WITH THAT,
I ASK FOR YOUR VOTE. THANK YOU.
THE MOTION IS DUE PASS AS
AMENDED. PLEASE CALL IT OFF.
BAUER-KAHAN BAUER-KAHAN DOLLY
DOLLY! NO, BENNETT. BIGELOW.
BIGELOW NÓ FRIEDMAN. FRIEDMAN I.
GARCIA GARCIA. CHOLERA CHOLERA
I, LEVINE LEVINE. I'M
MURATSUCHI. WHEN NO RUBIO RUBIO,
NOT VOTING. NAZARIAN. SMITH.
SMITH NO VVALLAPUDUA V
VALLAPUDUA NOT VOTING AWARD.
BOARD. I THANK YOU. THE BILL
NEEDS TO MORITZ ON CALL WILL
LEAVE THE ROLL OPEN AND IT'S MY
UNDERSTANDING YOU ARE PRESENTING
FOR MR STERN TODAY PRESENTING
FOR SENATOR AND THANK YOU. THANK
YOU SO MUCH TO SP 13 72 WHEN
YOU'RE READY, OKAY? THANK YOU.
THANKS, BEN. OKAY. I'M
PRESENTING FOR SENATOR STERN AND
THIS IS SB 13 72. SOMETHING
FURTHER. BASICALLY IT'S SIGMA.
THIS SUSTAINABLE GROUNDWATER
REQUIRES A SERIES OF FACTORS AND
BASICALLY NOTHING IN SIGMA
AUTHORIZES A LOCAL AGENCY TO
MAKE BINDING DETERMINATIONS OF
WATER RIGHTS OF ANY PERSON OR
ENTITY. AND SO ON JANUARY 13TH
MEMBERS I'LL CUT TO THE CHASE.
THE DEPARTMENT OF WATER
RESOURCES APPROVED THE 2020
INDIAN WELLS VALLEY BASIN
GROUNDWATER SUSTAINABILITY PLAN.
AND THAT PLAN IS SOMEWHAT
CONTROVERSIAL. THE CONCERN IS
THAT DBRS APPROVAL OF THE
GROUNDWATER SUSTAINABLY POUND
WILL BE IMPLEMENTED BY THE
COURTS TO BE AN ENDORSEMENT OF
THE ALLOCATION. THIS MEASURE.
ADDS A PROVISION TO SIGMA
STATING THAT THE APPROVAL OF THE
GROUNDWATER SUSTAINABILITY PLAN
BY THE BUR SHALL NOT BE
CONSTRUED TO BE A DETERMINATION
OR OTHERWISE IN OPINION OF THE
DEPARTMENT AS O ALLOCATION OF
GROUNDWATER PUMPING, WRITES, I
ASK FOR YOUR VOTE. THANK YOU.
AND I UNDERSTAND. WE HAVE TWO
WITNESSES AND SUPPORT ON THE
PHONE OPERATOR. CAN YOU OPEN THE
LINES, PLEASE? THE WESTERN
GROWERS ASSOCIATION AND THE
CALIFORNIA GROUNDWATER
COALITION. THANK YOU. HI. THIS
IS AN DEBATE WITH THE CALIFORNIA
GROUNDWATER COALITION, AND, UM,
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO
TESTIFY TODAY ON SB 13 72. THE
CALIFORNIA GROUNDWATER COALITION
IS AN ORGANIZATION OF PUBLIC AND
PRIVATE GROUNDWATER MANAGEMENT
ENTITIES LOCATED THROUGHOUT THE
STATE, AND WE CONSIST OF EXPERTS
WITH TECHNICAL, LEGAL AND
PROFESSIONAL GROUNDWATER AND
RELATED EXPERTISE. CGC MEMBERS
HAVE BEEN SUSTAINABLY MANAGING
GROUNDWATER SINCE LONG BEFORE
THE PASSAGE OF SIGMA, WHICH WE
SUPPORTED IN 2014 AND THROUGH MY
WORK FOR THE SONOMA COUNTY WATER
AGENCY. I MANAGED TO GROUNDWATER
SUSTAINABILITY AGENCIES. P. G C
AND SONOMA WATER ARE BOTH STRONG
SUPPORTERS OF SIGMA CGC STRONGLY
SUPPORTED THE PASSAGE OF SIGMA
IN 2014 CGC IS ALSO IN SUPPORT
OF SB 13 72. THIS LEGISLATION
MAKES IT CLEAR THAT BY APPROVING
A GROUNDWATER SUSTAINABILITY
PLAN, DWR IS NOT DETERMINING OR
ISSUING AN OPINION THAT ANY
ALLOCATION OF GROUNDWATER
PUMPING WRITES IN THE GSP IS
CONSISTENT WITH GROUNDWATER
RIGHTS LAW. C G. C S
UNDERSTANDING OF SIGMA AS IT WAS
BEING NEGOTIATED BY THE
LEGISLATURE AND AS IT IS
CURRENTLY WRITTEN, IS THAT IT
DID NOT PROVIDE GROUNDWATER
SUSTAINABILITY AGENCIES THE
ABILITY TO AFFECT GROUNDWATER,
RIGHT. HOWEVER THE ACTIVITIES
AROUND THE INDIAN WELLS VALLEY
GSP HAVE RAISED CONCERNS THAT
SOME PARTIES COULD USE DSPS AS A
TOOL TO ATTEMPT GAIN TO GAIN OR
TO CHANGE GROUNDWATER RIGHTS,
ESPECIALLY ESPECIALLY ONCE DWR
APPROVED THE GROUNDWATER
SUSTAINABILITY PLAN. CGC
BELIEVES THAT SP 13 72 REMOVES
ANY LINGERING UNCERTAINTY
REGARDING THE LEGISLATIVE INTENT
TO KEEP GROUNDWATER RIGHTS
SEPARATE FROM G SPS. FOR THESE
REASONS. CGC SUPPORTS SB 13 72
AND RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR I
VOTE. THANK YOU. NEXT WITNESS
MEMBERS. THIS IS GAIL DELAHANTY
WITH WESTERN GROWERS ASSOCIATION
ARE MEMBERS GROW FRESH PRODUCE
IN CALIFORNIA, ARIZONA. COLORADO
AND NEW MEXICO. WE'VE BEEN
WATCHING THE GROUNDWATER
SUSTAINABILITY AGENCIES AND
THEIR PLANS OVER THE CAT PAST
TWO YEARS. AND WE DO APPRECIATE
SENATOR STERN FOR BRINGING THIS
BILL FORWARD AS WE DO THINK IT'S
NECESSARY. IT IS A VERY SIMPLE
BILL AND, UM AS A MATTER OF
BREVITY. I WOULD LIKE TO JUST
ECHO THE COMMENTS MADE BY THE
PREVIOUS SPEAKER AND BY SENATOR
HERZBERG, THANK YOU FOR
PRESENTING TODAY FOR SENATOR
STERN. UM AND WE ASKED FOR YOUR
I VOTE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY
ADDITIONAL SUPPORT IN THE ROOM
TODAY? OPERATOR. CAN YOU MOVE TO
THE PHONE LINES AND SUPPORT. IF
ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN
SUPPORT, PLEASE PRESS ONE THAT
ZERO AT THIS TIME. ONCE AGAIN IF
YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT.
AT THIS TIME, PLEASE PRESS ONE,
THEN ZERO. IN ONE MOMENT, PLEASE
PURPOSE LINE. AND FIRST WE'LL GO
TO THE LINE NUMBER. 10, PLEASE
GO AHEAD. LINE NUMBER, 10. YOUR
LINE IS OPEN. PLEASE GO AHEAD.
AGAIN. IF THERE'S ANYONE IN LINE
10, PLEASE GO AHEAD. WITH THAT
THERE ARE NO FURTHER LINES IN
QUÊ. IF YOU DID WANT TO QUEUE UP
AND SUPPORT, PLEASE PRESS 10 AT
THIS TIME. OKAY THANK YOU. WE DO
NOT HAVE ANY REGISTERED
OPPOSITION WITNESSES KI MU IN
THE OPPOSITION IN THE ROOM CAN
MOVE TO THE PHONE LINES, PLEASE
FOR OPPOSITION. FOR IF YOU LIKE
TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION, PLEASE
PRESS ONE THAN ZERO AT THIS
TIME. AND THERE ARE CURRENTLY NO
LINES QUEUING UP. GREAT SO WITH
THAT WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE ANY QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS? SEEING THEM, MR.
HERTZBERG WOULD YOU LIKE TO
CLOSE RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR IN A
BOAT ON BEHALF OF SENATORS.
DURIANS MEASURE. THANK YOU, MR
HERTZBERG, AND THE MOTION IS DO
PASS. WE HAVE A MOTION. WE DO A
SECOND PERFECT. LET'S CALL THE
ROLL. BAUER-KAHAN AYE,
BAUER-KAHAN. AYE DOLLY DOLLY I
BENNETT BIGELOW BIGELOW. I
FRIEDMAN FRIEDMAN I GARCIA.
GARCIA I CHOLERA, CHOLERA I
LEVINE MURATSUCHI WHEN. WHEN I
RUBIO RUBIO I NAZARIAN SMITH.
SMITH I BE VALLAPUDUA V
VALLAPUDUA I WARD WARD. AYE.
THAT BILL IS OUT, BUT WE'LL
LEAVE THE ROLL UP IN FOR ABSENT
MEMBERS. YES, LET'S CALL
THROUGH. FOR THE MEMBERS THAT
HAVE JOINED US. CONSENT CALENDAR
MOTION IS DUE PAST TWO
APPROPRIATIONS A B S. B 3 70
ABSENT MEMBERS GARCIA GARCIA, I
CHOLERA, CHOLERA I LEVINE
MURATSUCHI WHEN I NAZARIAN. IS
THERE ANY.
CONSENT CALENDAR. SP 3 70 ABSENT
MEMBERS. LEVINE LEVINE. AYE. UM,
NO, I DID NOT. SP 13 72 ABSENT
MEMBERS LEVIN LEVINA ON THE
OTHER.
OFFICE TOLD.
HERE.
MR MURATSUCHI, OFFICER. THAT'S
RIGHT. BEEN ON THE LINE YET.
IS ON CALL RIGHT NOW. OKAY?
YEAH.
CONSENT CALENDAR. SP 3 70 ABSENT
MEMBERS NAZARIAN CARRY AND I. SB
11 57 HERTZBERG. EMOTION IS DO
PASS AS AMENDED TO
APPROPRIATIONS ABSENT MEMBER
NAZARIAN. SB 13 72 STERN.
NAZARIAN AND I. DID IT EXCITE.
CONSENT CALENDAR. SP 3 70 ABSENT
MEMBER MURATSUCHI AYE. SB 11 57
HERTZBERG MURATSUCHI. AYE. SB 13
72 STERN MURATSUCHI MURATSUCHI,
AYE.
OVER EXCHANGING SHOULDN'T SEE
THAT. YEAH WE'RE BOTH EQUALLY
FORTUNATE. YES. THERE WE GO. SB
11 57. THE MOTION IS DUE PASS AS
AMENDED TO APPROPRIATIONS ABSENT
MEMBER BENNETT BENNETT. AYE. SP
13 72 STERN. THE MOTION IS DUE
PASS ABSENT MEMBER BENNETT
BENNETT. AYE. OR THREE BILLS
WEREN'T THERE? MAYBE 11 57 IS
EIGHT FOR THAT BILL IS OUT.
23-14. 18% 13 72 IS 15 0 AND IT
IS ALSO OUT THIS HEARING BILLS.
COULD YOU GOT PULLED? YEAH THE
CONSENT. OKAY THIS HEARING IS
NOW ADJOURNED.