GOOD AFTERNOON, THE ASSEMBLY
TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE HAS
CALLED TO ORDER GOOD AFTERNOON
AND WELCOME. THE HEARING ROOM IS
OPEN FOR ATTENDANCE AT THIS
HEARING, AND IT CAN BE WATCHED
FROM A LIVE STREAM ON THE
ASSEMBLY'S WEBSITE. ANY MEMBER
OF THE PUBLIC ATTENDING A
HEARING IS ENCOURAGED TO WEAR
MASK AT ALL TIMES WHILE IN THE
BUILDING. WE ENCOURAGE THE
PUBLIC TO PROVIDE WRITTEN
TESTIMONY BY VISITING THE
COMMITTEE WEBSITE, PLEASE NOTE
THAT ANY WRITTEN TESTIMONY
SUBMITTED TO THE COMMITTEE IS
CONSIDERED PUBLIC COMMENT AND
MAYBE READ INTO THE RECORD OR
REPRINTED. WE WILL ALLOW TWO
MINUTES EACH FOR TWO PRIMARY
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT AND
OPPOSITION WHO ARE REGISTERED IN
ADVANCE ONLY, AND THESE
WITNESSES MUST TESTIFY IN PERSON
IN THE HEARING ROOM. ADDITIONAL
WITNESS COMMENTS WILL BE LIMITED
TO YOUR NAME, YOUR ORGANIZATION
IN POSITION, AND THOSE COMMENTS
CAN BE EITHER IN PERSON OR FOR
NOW ON THE TELEPHONE. WE WILL
START WITH THOSE MEMBERS OF THE
PUBLIC WHO ARE HERE IN THE ROOM.
TO USE OUR TELEPHONE SERVICE.
THE NUMBER TO CALL IS 877. 69 TO
89 57. THE ACCESS CODE IS 18 50
1100. IF YOU'RE HAVING ANY
PROBLEMS WITH THE MODERATED
PHONE SERVICE, YOU CAN CALL THE
COMMITTEE AT 916319 2093. OUR
STAFF WILL TRY TO HELP YOU.
FINALLY THE ASSEMBLY HAS
UNFORTUNATELY EXPERIENCED A
NUMBER OF DISRUPTIONS TO THE
COMMITTEE AND FLOOR PROCEEDINGS
IN THE LAST FEW YEARS, CONDUCT
THAT IN ANY WAY DISRUPTS,
DISTURBS OR OTHERWISE IMPEDE THE
ORDERLY CONDUCT OF THIS HEARING
IS PROHIBITED. SUCH CONDUCT
MAKING MAY INCLUDE TALKING OR
MAKING LOUD NOISES FROM THE
AUDIENCE, UTTERING LOUD
THREATENING OR ABUSIVE LANGUAGE
SPEAKING LONGER THAN THE TIME
ALLOTTED DISCUSSION OF MATERIAL
OF MATTER IS NOT RELATED TO THE
SUBJECT OF THE BILL. AND OTHER
DISRUPTIVE ACTS TO ADDRESS ANY
DISRUPTIVE CONDUCT. I WILL TAKE
THE FOLLOWING STEPS IF AN
INDIVIDUAL DISRUPTS OUR HEARING
PROCESS, I WILL DIRECT THEM TO
STOP. AND WARNED THEM THAT
CONTINUED DISRUPTIONS MAY RESULT
IN REMOVAL FROM THE BUILDING. I
WILL ALSO DOCUMENT ON THE RECORD
, THE INDIVIDUAL INVOLVED AND
THE NATURE OF THE DISRUPTIVE
CONDUCT. I MAY HAVE TO
TEMPORARILY RECESS THE HEARING.
THE CONDUCT DOES NOT STOP. I
WILL REQUEST THE ASSISTANCE OF
THE SERGEANTS AND ESCORTING THE
INDIVIDUAL FROM THE BUILDING. I
THANK YOU FOR YOUR COOPERATION.
WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN OUR HEARING
NOW AS A SUB AT THE SUBCOMMITTEE
BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A QUORUM
YET. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE FOUR
BILLS ON CONSENT. A LITTLE LATER
ON, WE'LL TAKE THE VOTE AT THE
TIME WHEN WE HAVE A QUORUM. WE
HAVE SEVEN BILLS AND ONE A. J R
TO DISCUSS TODAY AND I AM TOLD
THAT ONE OF OUR AUTHORS IS ON
THEIR WAY OVER THE SENATE IS
STILL IN SESSION. IT'S MY HOPE
THAT THEY WILL BE ALLOWING THE
SENATORS TO COME ONE BY ONE AS
THERE UM, AVAILABLE SO I WILL
ASK THE SERGEANTS TO MAKE SURE
THAT WE ALWAYS CALL OVER FOR WHO
ARE AUTHORS ARE SO THAT THEY CAN
SEND THEM OVER ONE AT A TIME.
WITH THAT, UM, WE WILL WAIT. WE
DO HAVE ONE A. J R FROM
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S NAZARIAN. SO AS
SOON AS HE SHOWS, UH, AS SOON AS
SHE COMES TO THE COMMITTEE, WE
WILL TAKE THAT FOR ANYONE
LISTENING. WE WILL TAKE ANY
AUTHOR OUT OF ORDER. WHOEVER IS
HERE FIRST, WE'LL GET TO.
SENATOR LIMÓN WELCOME. YOU MAY
PROCEED WHENEVER YOU'RE READY,
AND YOU NEED TO PUSH THE BUTTON.
MUTED BUTTON IS STILL. BUT
THAT'S WHAT IT WAS. AH! SORRY
ABOUT THAT. THANK YOU. AH,
MADAME CHERON COLLEAGUES. SB 12
30 WILL STREAMLINE THE VARIOUS
PROGRAMS CALIFORNIA HAS TO
INCENTIVIZE CONSUMERS TO SWITCH
TO LOWER EMISSION VEHICLES. THIS
BILL WILL REQUIRE CURBS TO
CREATE ONE SINGLE PORTAL WHERE A
PERSON CAN APPLY FOR ALL OF THE
PROGRAMS ONLINE, MAKING THE
NETWORK OF PROGRAMS EASIER TO
UNDERSTAND AND ACCESS.
ADDITIONALLY SV 12 30 S CARB TO
EXPEDITE THE APPROVAL PROCESS SO
MORE PEOPLE CAN GET ACCESS TO
THEIR INCENTIVES FASTER. THE
NETWORK OF OVERLAPPING PROGRAMS
AND LONG APPROVAL PROCESS CAN BE
MAJOR BARRIER FOR LOW INCOME
CALIFORNIANS WANTING TO MAKE THE
SWITCH TO AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE
TRANSITIONING TO ELECTRIC
VEHICLES, IS A MAJOR COMPONENT
OF CALIFORNIA MEETING OUR
CLIMATE GOALS, BUT WE NEED TO
MAKE SURE THAT THISIS AN
EQUITABLE PROCESS AND THAT
PEOPLE DO NOT GET LEFT BEHIND.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SENATOR.
LIMÓN DO YOU HAVE ANY WITNESSES
DO IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL.
THEY'RE WELCOME TO EITHER SPEAK
AT THE MIC OR COME TO THE TABLE
FOR TWO MINUTES. AND IF THERE'S
A SECOND WITNESS PRIMARY
WITNESS, THEY CAN ALSO COME AND
SIT AT THE TABLE. AND PRESENT
FOR TWO MINUTES. THANK YOU. THEY
CAN INTRODUCE YOURSELF WELCOME.
THANKS SO MUCH CHAIR MEMBERSOF
THE COMMITTEE. MY NAME IS
BENJAMIN INCURRED. I'M THE
DIRECTOR OF THE ROMERO
INSTITUTES. LET'S SCREEN
CALIFORNIA INITIATIVE AND WE'RE
PROUD CO SPONSORS OF SP 12 30.
FIRST I WANT TO EXPRESS OUR
GRATITUDE TO SENATOR LEMANN
AUTHORING THIS BILL INTO THIS
COMMITTEE FOR YOUR HEART AND
THOUGHTFUL WORK ON
TRANSPORTATION ISSUES. AS YOU
KNOW. EMISSIONS FROM CARS AND
TRUCKS HAVE FOR DECADES BEEN A
THORN IN CALIFORNIA'S EFFORTS TO
ATTAIN SAFE, HEALTHY AIR
QUALITY. FOR THE LAST SEVERAL
YEARS, OUR ORGANIZATION HAS
CONDUCTED OUTREACH AND EDUCATION
AND LOW AND MODERATE INCOME
COMMUNITIES TO HELP INDIVIDUALS
GET INTO CLEAN CARS. DOING THIS
WORK. WE LEARNED THAT WHILE
CALIFORNIA HAS STRONG PROGRAMS
TO SUPPORT ZERO EMISSION
VEHICLES, AND THOSE PROGRAMS
HAVE DONE A LOT OF GOOD WORK,
THE INCENTIVE LANDSCAPE IS
UNFORTUNATELY DIFFICULT TO
NAVIGATE. THERE ARE MYRIAD
PROGRAMS, EACH WITH ITS OWN
APPLICATION AND ITS OWN TIMING
FOR APPROVAL AND USE IN PRACTICE
. THESE PROGRAMS DON'T MEET THE
NEEDS OF LOW AND MODERATE INCOME
RESIDENTS BECAUSE NUMBER ONE,
THEY DON'T HAVE THE EXPENDABLE
INCOME TO BE ABLE TO BUY A
VEHICLE NOW AND RECEIVE A REBATE
LATER. AND TO THEIR PURCHASING
HABITS TEND TO BE THAT THEY
DRIVE THEIR CURRENT VEHICLE
UNTIL IT BREAKS DOWN, WHICH
MEANS THAT WAITING PERIODS ARE
PROBLEMATIC BECAUSE WHEN THEY
NEED A NEW VEHICLE THAT NEEDED
URGENT. BY SIMPLIFYING AND
STREAMLINING ZERO EMISSION
VEHICLE INCENTIVES UNDER A ONE
STOP SHOP AND BY MAKING FUNDS
AVAILABLE AT POINT OF SALE. SP
12 30 AIMS TO BETTER SERVE THOSE
WHO NEED THESE INCENTIVES, THE
MOST ADDITIONALLY ACCELERATING
CLEAN CAR ADOPTION IN
HISTORICALLY OVERLOOKED AREAS
WILL HAVE TREMENDOUSLY
BENEFICIAL IMPACTS, ACCORDING TO
THE AMERICAN LUNG ASSOCIATION. A
RAPID CLEAN CAR TRANSITION WOULD
PREVENT MORE THAN 15,000
PREMATURE DEATHS IN CALIFORNIA.
OVER THE COMING DECADES, WITH
MOST OF THE BENEFITS GOING TO
LOW INCOME AND HISTORICALLY
DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES. IT
COULD ALSO HELP REDUCE HOUSEHOLD
AUTOMOBILE FUELING AND
MAINTENANCE COSTS. IN CONCLUSION
. SP 12 30 CAN HELP ENSURE THAT
AS WE PURSUE OUR ZERO EMISSION
VEHICLE GOALS, WORKING FAMILIES
IN FRONTLINE COMMUNITIES ARE AT
THE FOREFRONT OF THAT
TRANSITION. IT CAN HELP PUT US
ON TRACK TO ACHIEVE OUR 2030
CLIMATE ACTION PLAN GOALS FOR
EMISSIONS REDUCTION IN THE
TRANSPORTATION SECTOR. I
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST AND I VOTE
ON SP 12 30. I THINK THIS
COMMITTEE FOR YOUR TIME AND
CONSIDERATION. WE HAVE A MOTION
AND A SECOND. WE DON'T HAVE A
QUORUM. YET. AS SOON AS WE DO,
WE WILL TAKE THE BILL UP. THAT'S
OKAY. WE DO KNOW WE HAVE
EMOTIONS DON'T KNOW. SO DO YOU
HAVE ANOTHER PRIMARY WITNESS AND
SUPPORT? WE KNOW WE ONLY HAVE ME
TOO. OKAY, AND WE HAVE NO
OPPOSITION ON FIRE FIRE. ALSO,
AT THIS POINT, I WILL ASK
ANYBODY IN THE ROOM WHO IS
INTERESTED IN TESTIFYING FOR OR
AGAINST SB 12 32, PLEASE
APPROACH THE MICROPHONE. AND
AGAIN NAME ORGANIZATION IN YOUR
POSITION. ONE MOMENT. LET'S MAKE
SURE THE MICROPHONE IS ON YOU
WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY CAN
HEAR YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM
CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS MIKE WEST
ON BEHALF OF THE STATE BUILDING
AND CONSTRUCTED CONSTRUCTION
TRADES COUNCIL ALSO IN SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. CYNTHIA SHELL IT I'M
WITH INDIVIDUAL CALIFORNIA STATE
STRONG, INDIVISIBLE GREEN TEAM.
INDIVIDUAL CLIMATE, JUSTICE AND
SACRAMENTO INDIVISIBLE AND IN
STRONG SUPPORT OF SB 12, 30.
THANK YOU. AFTERNOON MADAM CHAIR
AND MEMBERS ORVILLE THOMAS ON
BEHALF OF CAL START IN SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. SEEING NOBODY ELSE IN
THE ROOM WILL NOW TURN TO THE
PHONE LINES. OPERATOR IF YOU CAN
PLEASE OPEN UP THE PHONES FOR
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION OF S. B 12 30. THANK
YOU, MADAM CHAIR. FOR THOSE WHO
WISH TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL, PLEASE
PRESS 10 AND AGAIN. THIS IS FOR
THIS SPECIFIC BILL, PLEASE PRESS
ONE AND ZERO ONE MOMENT FOR OUR
FIRST COMMENTER.
AND WE'RE GOING TO GO TO THE
LINE. 15 PARDON ME LINE 15. YOUR
LINE IS NOW OPEN. THANK YOU SO
MUCH. GOOD AFTERNOON SHARING
MEMBERS. MY NAME IS ELIANA
HONEYCUTT. I'M CALLING IN STRONG
SUPPORT OF SB 12 30 ON BEHALF OF
THE LORD'S HUERTA FOUNDATION.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. NOW GO TO
LINE 16. THIS IS ERIC VEUM,
SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE CENTER
FOR BIOLOGICAL DIVERSITY, URGING
THIS COMMITTEE'S UNANIMOUS
SUPPORT FOR SP 12 30. LINE 17.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS RON RAP SPEAKING ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA FACULTY
ASSOCIATION, AND STRONG SUPPORT,
THANK YOU. LINE 18. GOOD
AFTERNOON. MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS. MY NAME IS MICHELLE
SPREAD VERY INCLINED FROM SAN
JOSE. I'M THE TEAM LEAD FOR
CALIFORNIA ST. STRONG AND B. 12
IS A PRIORI BILL FOR US VOTED
UPON BY 18. DISNEY 87 CHAPTERS
THROUGHOUT CALIFORNIA STRONGLY
VOTE YES, THANK YOU. LINE 10.
THIS THIS IS SANTIAGO RODRIGUEZ
WITH CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL
VOTERS IN SUPPORT. MADAM CHAIR.
THERE IS NO ONE ELSE TO SIGNAL
THAT THEY WISH TO SPEAK. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH, UM SEEING NOBODY
ELSE WISHING TO GIVE TESTIMONY.
ARE THERE ANY COMMITTEE MEMBERS
WITH QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? VICE
CHAIR PH. THANK YOU CHAIR.
QUICK QUESTION. I CERTAINLY I
WAS SUPPORTIVE OF THE
STREAMLINING AND CREATING ONLINE
PORTAL. I DO HAVE A QUESTION
ABOUT THE SECOND PART OF THE
BILL. UM, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY.
GLENN CARS FOR ALL WAS DESIGNED
TO GET, UM FAMILIES AND
HOUSEHOLDS TO UPGRADE THEIR, UH,
THEIR THEIR VEHICLES. AND YOU
KNOW MOST OF THOSE VEHICLES WHEN
IT COMES DOWN TO, UM UM, THOSE
225% BELOW THE POVERTY LEVEL. UM
YOU KNOW, THE 22 YEARS OLD, SO
I'M LOOKING AT THE DATA IN ABOUT
33% OF THE PURCHASES RIGHT NOW
OR HYBRID VEHICLES. IN ADDITION
TO THE PLUG INS AND THOSE ABS MY
UNDERSTANDING READING THIS BILL
IS THAT THE HYBRID VEHICLES WILL
NO LONGER BE ELIGIBLE. UM UNDER
CLEAN CARS, FOR ALL IS THAT IT
WAS THAT BY DESIGN, UM YOU KNOW
, WE CERTAINLY WANT FOLKS TO
UPGRADE THEIR VEHICLES HAVE BEEN
NOT IF THEY DON'T WANT TO ZAP.
MAYBE THEY WANT TO GET A HYBRID.
UM IT IS. YOU KIND OF PROVIDES
IS INTENDED FOR XEV. UM AND WE
ACTUALLY HAVEN'T GOTTEN THE
HYBRID QUESTION IN THE PAST. UM,
BUT I'M HAPPY TO LOOK INTO IT.
IT IS INTENDED FOR ZEB, THOUGH.
OKAY SO WOULD SOMEONE BE STILL
WHAT THEY IF THEY WERE TO STILL
PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAM,
WOULD THEY STILL BE ABLE TO BUY
A HYBRID? OR WOULD IT ONLY BE
ELIGIBLE FOR A XEV PLUG IN AS
WRITTEN RIGHT NOW? IT'S ZEV
RIGHT NOW, SO I COULD LOOK INTO
YOU, TOO. AND GIVE YOU AN
ABSOLUTELY YES. WE CERTAINLY
WANT EVERYONE TO BUY NEWER
VEHICLES. I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO
EXCLUDE. UM UH, A TYPE OF
VEHICLE THAT YOU KNOW, MAYBE
THESE FAMILIES WOULD LIKE SO
YEAH. IF YOU COULD PROVIDE ME A
LITTLE BIT MORE WILL FOLLOW UP
WITH YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ANY
OTHER COMMUNITY COMMITTEE
MEMBERS WITH QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS. WELL I WANT TO THANK
THE AUTHOR FOR BRINGING THIS
BILL FORWARD. TODAY I WILL BE
SUPPORTING IT. WOULD YOU LIKE TO
CLOSE? RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR MY
VOTE. THANK YOU. WE'LL TAKE A
VOTE AS SOON AS WE HAVE A
QUORUM. THANK YOU CAN SEND
SOMEBODY ELSE OVER.
A MR CHOLERA WELCOME. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. TO BE HERE. I WOULD
LIKE TO PRESENT SP 13 29. ON
BEHALF OF SENATOR NEWMAN.
PUBLICLY AVAILABLE HYDROGEN
FILLING STATIONS. AND LET ME SEE
HERE. I'M NOT THE ANALYSIS HERE
AND WE JUST LIKE TO. SO WITHOUT
SUPPORT FOR AN APPROPRIATE
INVESTMENTS IN HYDROGEN,
CALIFORNIA WILL FAIL TO MEET AT
ZERO EMISSION VEHICLE GOALS.
THIS BILL ALIGNS WITH CARBS 2021
PERIOD YOU ANALYSIS SHOWING AN
ADDITIONAL 300 MILLION WILL
BRING THE LIGHT. AND MEDIUM DUTY
BUILDING NETWORK TO A POINT OF
SELF SUFFICIENCY WHILE
SUPPORTING THE DEVELOPMENT OF
1000 STRATEGICALLY LOCATED
HYDROGEN FILLING STATIONS IN 94%
OF THE GEOGRAPHIC, STATE AND 97%
OF DISADVANTAGE COMMUNITY
COMMUNITIES. HYDROGEN OFFERS THE
MEN'S POTENTIAL CONTRIBUTION TO
THE CREATION OF RESILIENT
RENEWABLES, POWER GRID AND IN
THE DECARBONIZATION OF HEAVY
TRUCKING, WHALE, MARINE AND EVEN
AVIATION, BUT THAT IMPORTANT
PROGRESS WILL ONLY BE BUILT. ON
OUR INITIAL FOUNDATION OF
MEETING THE NEEDS OF TODAY'S
FLEET OF FUEL CELL VEHICLES BY
SUPPORTING THE NEEDS OF HYDROGEN
FUEL CELL VEHICLES ON THE ROAD
TODAY WE CAN DELIBERATELY AND
EFFICIENTLY PREPARE FOR THE
HYDROGEN ECOSYSTEM NEEDED
TOMORROW. THIS BILL WILL DO
EXACTLY THAT. WITH THAT. I
RESPECT THE ASPIRIN. I VOTE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND YOU DO
HAVE A WITNESS WITH YOU HERE
TODAY. IF YOU DON'T MIND
INTRODUCING YOURSELF AND
PRESENTING AND TERESA, I THINK
THERESA COOK, I THINK IS HERE
TOO. IF YOU WANT TO COME TO THE
TABLE OR SPEAK BACK, THERE IS
FINE, OKAY? PLEASE PROCEED.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM
CHAIRWOMAN AND OTHER MEMBERS. MY
NAME IS JACK BRAUER. I'M A
PROFESSOR OF MECHANICAL AND
AEROSPACE ENGINEERING AT THE
UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA, IRVINE
AND DIRECTOR OF THE NATIONAL
FUEL CELL RESEARCH CENTER.
THERE. THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA
AND MANY OTHER JURISDICTIONS HAS
WISELY INVESTED IN AND DEVELOPED
POLICIES TO SUPPORT THE USE OF
SOLAR WIND AND BATTERY ENERGY
STORAGE TECHNOLOGIES. THIS HAS
TOGETHER WITH ALL OF THESE OTHER
JURISDICTIONS RESULTED IN WHEN
AND SOLAR ENERGY BEING THE
CHEAPEST FORMS OF PRIMARY ENERGY
WE HAVE AVAILABLE TODAY AND IT'S
RESULTED IN BATTERY ENERGY
STORAGE SYSTEMS BEING USED IN
AUTOMOBILES AS WELL AS EVEN FOR
GRID SUPPORT. BUT EVERY SINGLE
UNIVERSITY, EVERY SINGLE AGENCY
, EVERY SINGLE JURISDICTION,
STATE OR FEDERAL THAT HAS LOOKED
AT WHAT ELSE WE NEED TO DO HAS
DETERMINED THAT WE MUST INVEST
IN HYDROGEN ENERGY TECHNOLOGIES
IF WE ARE TO ACHIEVE OUR ZERO
EMISSIONS POLICY GOALS. THIS IS
WHY, FOR EXAMPLE, JAPAN, CHINA,
AUSTRALIA AND ALL OF EUROPE. ARE
EACH INVESTING. TENS OF BILLIONS
OF DOLLARS IN HYDROGEN TODAY.
THIS IS WHY THE U. S. DEPARTMENT
OF ENERGY MOST RECENTLY
ANNOUNCED ITS INTENTION TO
SUPPORT SEVERAL EARTH SHOTS, THE
FIRST OF WHICH IS THE HYDROGEN
ENERGY EARTH SHOT. IN THIS EARTH
SHOT, THEY INTEND TO INVEST 9.5
BILLION FEDERAL DOLLARS WITH A
COST SHARE MATCH BY INDUSTRY IN
PARTICULAR, BUT OTHERS TO FAR
EXCEED THAT. IN THE HYDROGEN
VECTOR, AND IT'S FULLY FUNDED BY
THE BIPARTISAN INFRASTRUCTURE
LAW. NOW MANY EXPERTS, INCLUDING
ME KNOW THAT HYDROGEN HAS ITS
MOST COMPELLING CASE FOR
TRANSPARENT TRANSPORTATION
APPLICATIONS THAT NEED RAPID,
FUELING LONG RANGE OR HEAVY
PAYLOAD. THIS IS LED SOME TO
ARGUE THAT WE SHOULD ONLY INVEST
IN HYDROGEN FUELING FOR HEAVY
DUTY. FOR SHIPS OR FOR INDUSTRY.
BUT THE INVESTMENTS IN THIS BILL
CAN BE HEAVILY LEVERAGED TO
SUPPORT THE MEDIUM AND HEAVY
DUTY TRANSPORTATION APPLICATIONS
AND THERE ARE SYNERGIES BETWEEN
REALIZING A NETWORK. THAT IS
EXPANSIVE, AND THAT INCLUDES
PRODUCTION, DISTRIBUTION AND
DISPENSING IN BOTH LIGHT AND
HEAVY DUTY APPLICATIONS. IN
ADDITION, THERE ARE SEVERAL, UM
PEOPLE WHO ARE SUPER COMMUTERS
TODAY, AND PROJECTIONS ARE
SHOWING THAT THEY WILL BECOME
EVEN LARGER POPULATION IN THE
FUTURE. FAST FUELING AND LONG
RANGE CAPABILITIES OF HYDROGEN,
OKAY, ARE REQUIRED FOR THAT, AND
RESIDENTS WHO ARE DISADVANTAGED,
LIVING IN POOR COMMUNITIES AND
RENTING THEY DO NOT HAVE ACCESS
EASILY TO CHARGING
INFRASTRUCTURE. I KNOW THERE ARE
SOME BILLS THAT ARE BEING
SUPPORTED. I SUPPORT THOSE TWO.
UM, IN ADDITION, THE ELECTRIC
GRID INFRASTRUCTURE IN ALL DENSE
URBAN ENVIRONMENTS IS
INSUFFICIENT FOR MEETING ALL
ZERO EMISSION VEHICLES THROUGH
BATTERIES ONLY SO WE NEED A
COMBINATION OF BATTERIES AND
HYDROGEN FUELING INFRASTRUCTURE
. IF WE ARE IF WE ARE TO MAKE
ALL ZERO EMISSIONS APPLICATIONS
, THANK YOU SO MUCH. YOUR TWO
MINUTES ARE UP. UM UH, MISS
COOK. THANK YOU, ASSEMBLYWOMAN
IN COMMITTEE, THERESA COOK ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
HYDROGEN COALITION AND STRONG
SUPPORT. I'M SORRY. I WAS TOLD I
HAD FOUR MINUTES. THAT'S WHY I
WAS GOING ALONG. SORRY OH, YOU
KNOW WHAT WE HAD HAD MISS COOK
AS THE OTHER TWO MINUTE WITNESS,
BUT NOW I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S
NOT WHAT WAS HAPPENING. SO I AM
SORRY ABOUT THAT. I'M SORRY,
TOO. YEAH. BUT I THINK YOU WERE
VERY CONVINCING. OKAY, GOOD. SO
UM, GO AHEAD WITH THE OTHER IN
TESTIMONY IN FAVOR OF THE BILL,
THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND KEEP
GOING WITH THAT. IF YOU'RE IF
YOU'RE READY, SIR. WHO'S AT THE
MIKE? IF YOU WANT TO JOHN WINGER
ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
FUELS AND CONVENIENCE ALLIANCE
AND SUPPORT. MEMBERS. MY QUEST
ON BEHALF OF THE STATE BUILDING
AND CONSTRUCTION TRADES COUNCIL
ALSO IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU AND I
DON'T HAVE ANY OPPOSITION ON
FILE WITH THE VISIT IF THERE'S
ANYBODY IN THE ROOM WISHING TO
VOICE OPPOSITION TO THE BILL,
YOU MAY COME TO THE MICROPHONE.
OKAY I DON'T SEE ANY SO OPERATOR
IF YOU CAN OPEN UP THE PHONES
FOR WITNESSES IN SUPPORT, OR
OPPOSITION OF SB 13 29. THANK
YOU. OKAY? OPERATED YOU DO HERE
THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR WITNESSES
FOR MADAM CHAIR? PARDON ME. I
APOLOGIZE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL, PLEASE
PRESS 10 THAT THIS TIME PRESS
ONE AND ZERO. AND IT APPEARS
THAT WE HAVE NO ONE WHO SIGNALED
THAT THEY WISH TO SPEAK. OKAY
EVEN THOUGH UM, ONE OF OUR
COMMITTEE MEMBERS HAS GRACIOUSLY
, UM, OUR HEALTH HELPING US OUT
BY PLAYING THE ROLE OF MR NEWMAN
TODAY. IF THERE ARE ANY
COMMITTEE MEMBERS WHO HAVE
QUESTIONS, WE CAN CERTAINLY
THROW THEM TO THE LEAD WITNESS.
OKAY SEEING NONE. WE WILL WAIT
UNTIL WE HAVE A QUORUM. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. UM AND, UH DO YOU
WANT TO PRESENT FOR SENATOR
GONZALEZ, PLEASE? UM YES, I
BELIEVE SHE WAS GONNA SHE WAS
TELLING MATERIALS. YES BROUGHT
DOWN AND I'M HAPPY TO TAKE THEM
IN ORDER WITH SP 12 33 1ST. AND
JUST FOR THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS
KNOW WE WILL NEED A MOTION AND A
SECOND FROM FOR SENATOR NEWMAN'S
BILL AT THE WHEN THE TIME IS
APPROPRIATE. OKAY IT'S A
POSSIBLE MADAME SHERIFF. WE CAN
GO TO SP 13 98 1ST. I'D RATHER
DO THEM IN REVERSE ORDER IN THE
OTHER ORDER BECAUSE I WANT TO
MATERIALS FOR THAT ONE. BUT I
WANTED THAT THAT ONE IS PROBABLY
THE MORE DIFFICULT OF THE FORCE.
SO I'D LIKE TO GIVE HER TIME TO
MAKE IT OVER HERE. IN CASE YOU
CAN BE 12 30 11 21 WOULD BE
FIRST. OH NEVER MIND THAT WAS
CONTESTED 12, 33 OR 13 82.
WHICHEVER OF THOSE YOU LIKE 11
OR 12 33. OKAY? ALL RIGHT. THANK
YOU. MY PROCEED WHENEVER YOU ARE
READY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU,
MADAM CHAIR ON BEHALF OF SENATOR
GONZALES LIKE TO PRESENT SB 12
33 REGARDING THE UNDERSERVED AND
UNSERVED POPULATIONS. THE DEER
THE HOLD ON HERE. THE DEMS
PROVIDES A CENTRAL SERVICES TO
CALIFORNIANS, SUCH AS FURNISHING
VALID GOVERNMENT IDEAS THAT ARE
USED TO LEASE APARTMENTS AND
KIDS UP FOR SCHOOLS APPLY FOR
JOBS OR TO ACCESS PROGRAMS LIKE
MEDICAL FOOD STAMPS OR CASH
ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS. HOWEVER,
MANY CALIFORNIANS FACE BARRIERS
AND ACCESSING THESE SERVICES.
THE BARRIERS TO ACCESSING THESE
SERVICES ARE VERY DIVERSE AND
INCLUDE LANGUAGE BARRIERS,
ILLITERACY, INCARCERATION
STATUS. OR A LACK OF HOME
ADDRESS FOR PEOPLE EXPERIENCING
HOMELESSNESS. AS B 12 33
RECOGNIZES THE NEED TO MEET
CALIFORNIANS WHERE THEY ARE AND
INCORPORATE FLEXIBILITY AND
RESPONSIVENESS AND HOW SB 12 33
REQUIRES THE DMV TO WORK WITH
COMMUNITY GROUPS AND LOCAL
ENTITIES TO PUBLISH A REPORT
THAT WILL IDENTIFY UNDERSERVED
GROUPS AND DEVELOP A PROTOCOL BY
WHICH COMMUNITY GROUPS OR LOCAL
ENTITIES CAN REQUEST TARGETED
OUTREACH SERVICES BY THE DMV. SB
12 33 WILL ENSURE THAT CRITICAL
SERVICES ARE MORE EFFICIENTLY
AND EFFECTIVELY PROVIDED TO ALL
CALIFORNIANS, BUT THAT
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR MY VOTE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I DON'T
HAVE ANY WITNESSES NOR
OPPOSITION ON FILE FOR THIS
BILL. IF THERE'S ANYBODY IN THE
ROOM WISHING TO TESTIFY FOR OR
AGAINST SB 12 33 PLEASE COME TO
THE MICROPHONE. NOTHING NOBODY
IN THE COMMITTEE HEARING ROOM.
OPERATOR CAN YOU PLEASE OPEN UP
THE PHONE LINES FOR S B 12 33.
ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION. SB. 2033
31, BUT PARDON ME 12 33, PLEASE
PRESS ONE AND ZERO PRESS 10. AND
IT APPEARS THAT WE HAVE NO ONE
WHO HAS SIGNALED THAT THEY WISH
TO SPEAK. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
WITH THAT. ARE THERE ANY
QUESTIONS FOR MR KALRA? SEEING
NONE. WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE
THE ASPIRIN? I VOTE THANK YOU.
WHEN WE HAVE A QUORUM, WE WILL
TAKE A MOTION AND A SECOND
UNLESS SOMEBODY WANTS TO DO IT
NOW. WE HAVE A MOTION IN A
SECOND. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE'LL TAKE A VOTE WHEN WE HAVE A
QUORUM. AND WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE
TO DO NEXT? UM SP 13 82. OKAY,
YOU'RE ON QUÊ. I'M HERE TO
PRESENT ON BEHALF OF SENATOR
GONZALEZ SENATE BILL 13 82,
WHICH WILL HELP MAKE
CALIFORNIA'S CLEAN CARS FOR ALL
PROGRAM MORE EQUITABLE.
CURRENTLY. WHITE HIGHER INCOME
HOUSEHOLDS ARE FAR MORE LIKELY
TO OWN ZERO EMISSION VEHICLES
THAN LOWER INCOME HOUSEHOLDS OF
COLOR. IRONICALLY THIS IS
ESPECIALLY TRUE IN THE MISSION'S
OVERBURDENED COMMUNITIES. THAT
HAD THE MOST NEED OF ZERO
EMISSION VEHICLES. THE CLEAN
CARS FOR ALL PROGRAMS
SPECIFICALLY INTENDED TO ADDRESS
THIS EXISTING INEQUITY. OVER THE
LAST SIX YEARS. CARS FOR ALL HAS
PLACED OVER 11,000 0 EMISSION
AND HYBRID VEHICLES INTO LOW
INCOME HOUSEHOLDS, REPLACING
OLDER, HEAVY POLLUTING VEHICLES.
SB 13 82 BUILDS OFF THE SUCCESS
OF THE EXISTING CLEAN CARS FOR
ALL PROGRAMS, BUT ALSO
RECOGNIZING THAT THIS HEAVILY
OVERSUBSCRIBED PROGRAM MUST BE
ACCESSIBLE TO THE MOST
UNDERSERVED CALIFORNIANS. SP 13
82 WILL LOWER THE COST TO
PARTICIPATE IN THE CLEAN CARS
FOR ALL PROGRAMS BY EXEMPTING
CARS BOUGHT AND SOLD THROUGH THE
PROGRAM FROM STATE PROPERTY
TAXES. WAITING THIS 3.25% TAX
WILL MAKE THE PROGRAM MORE
AFFORDABLE. IN ADDITION, SP 13
82 REQUIRES THE AIR RESOURCES
BOARD TO IDENTIFY CURRENTLY
UNDERSERVED GROUPS AND DEVELOP
STRATEGIES, PROMOTE OUTREACH AND
LOWER BARRIERS FOR THOSE GROUPS.
TESTIFYING IN SUPPORT OF THE
BILL. TODAY I HAVE ALAN ABS, THE
LEGISLATIVE OFFICER FOR THE BAY
AREA, AIR QUALITY MANAGEMENT
DISTRICT, AND BILL MCGOVERN WITH
THE COALITION FOR CLEAN AIR.
THANK YOU AND WE'LL GO TO YOUR
WITNESSES FOR TWO MINUTES
APIECE. GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR
FREE. FRIEDMAN AND MEMBERS OF
THE COMMITTEE. I'M ALAN ABS WITH
THE BAY AREA AIR QUALITY
MANAGEMENT DISTRICT. TESTIFYING
TODAY IN SUPPORT OF SB 13 82 TO
EXPLAIN THE IMPORTANCE OF THE
QUEEN CARS FOR ALL PROGRAM IN
THE BAY AREA. CLEAN CARS FOR ALL
IS RETIRING, REPLACE PROGRAM
WHERE INCOME QUALIFIED RESIDENTS
AND COMMUNITIES
DISPROPORTIONATELY BURDENED BY
POLLUTION CAN TURN IN AN OLDER
VEHICLE AND GETTING INCENTIVE TO
PURCHASE A PURCHASE OR LEASE A
HYBRID PLUG IN HYBRID ELECTRIC
VEHICLE OR FUEL CELL ELECTRIC
VEHICLE THAT IS EIGHT YEARS OLD
OR NEWER. CONSUMERS ALSO HAVE
THE OPTION TO RECEIVE FUNDING
FROM MOBILITY OPTIONS THAT ALLOW
GRANTEES TO RECEIVE DEBIT CARDS
FOR CLIPPER. BART TRANSIT,
ANOTHER TRANSPORTATION GRANTEES
THAT SELECT THE MOBILITY OPTION
CAN ALSO USE THESE FUNDS TO
PURCHASE AN E BIKE OR
ACCESSORIES. IN THE THREE YEARS
THAT THE BAY AREA AQMD IS
ADMINISTERED THIS PROGRAM, WE
HAVE SUPPORTED APPROXIMATELY
3000 VEHICLE PURCHASES WITH TWO
THIRDS OF THOSE OCCURRING IN OUR
MOST DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES.
THE HOUSEHOLD INCOME IN THE
VEHICLE CHOSEN DETERMINE THE
AMOUNT OF MONEY YOU CAN RECEIVE
FROM THE PROGRAM. GRANTS RANGED
FROM 5500 TO 9500, DEPENDING ON
INCOME AND VEHICLE, BUT THE
AVERAGE CLEAN CARS FOR ALL
VEHICLES CURRENTLY COST $28,000
. WHILE THE AVERAGE CLEAN CARS
FOR ALL INCENTIVE IS 8500. AND
THE AVERAGE LOAN FINANCING FOR
PURCHASING A REPLACEMENT VEHICLE
BEING 14,500. THUS IT STILL
REQUIRES A SIGNIFICANT OUT OF
POCKET EXPENSE FOR MOST ELIGIBLE
APPLICANTS. PROVIDING AN
ADDITIONAL INCENTIVE OR LIMITING
THE TAX BURDEN ON INDIVIDUALS
PARTICIPATING IN THE PROGRAM
WOULD HELP EXPAND THE APPLICANT
POOL, REDUCED PARTICIPANT COSTS
AND SUPPORT CALIFORNIA'S EQUITY
AND ZERO EMISSION VEHICLE GOALS.
SB 13 82 ALSO DIRECTS CARB TO
COORDINATE WITH THE AIR QUALITY
MANAGEMENT DISTRICTS TO IDENTIFY
BARRIERS TO ACCESS TO ACCESSING
CLEAN CARS FOR ALL AND TO
DEVELOP OUTREACH PROTOCOLS AND
METRICS TO ACCEPT ASSESS THIS
SUCCESS OF OUTREACH. ACROSS THE
AIR QUALITY MANAGEMENT DISTRICT
, FURTHER SUPPORTING EQUITY
WITHIN THE PROGRAM. WE THANK
SENATOR GONZALEZ FOR HER
LEADERSHIP ON THIS ISSUE. I LOOK
FORWARD TO ANSWERING ANY
QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE, AND I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR EYE
BOAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM,
UH, MR ABS. UM FILM A CAVERN
WITH COALITION FOR QUEEN ERIC.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS WERE IN SUPPORT OF THIS
BILL. WE'VE BEEN SUPPORTIVE OF
QUEEN CARS FOR ALL SINCE IT'S
BEEN STARTED, AND THIS PROGRAM
HAS BENEFITED OVER 11,000,
CALIFORNIA FAMILIES STATEWIDE,
THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO GET INTO
CLEANER, SAFER. MORE RELIABLE
CARS, AND THIS HAS ENORMOUS
QUALITY OF LIFE IMPROVEMENTS FOR
THOSE FAMILIES WHO NOW HAVE
TRANSPORTATION THEY CAN COUNT ON
TO GET TO WORK OR GET TO SCHOOL.
AND ALSO HAS GREAT BENEFITS FOR
OUR FOR OUR AIR BECAUSE WE'RE
TAKING OFF THE ROAD SOME OF THE
DIRTIEST VEHICLES AND REPLACING
THEM WITH SOME OF THE CLEANEST
VEHICLES. UM HOWEVER, WE THINK
WE CAN CONTINUE TO IMPROVE THE
PROGRAM IT'S ADMINISTERED BY DID
THE VARIOUS AIR DISTRICTS AND WE
THINK THAT SHOULD CONTINUE
BECAUSE THE DISTRICTS HAVE BEEN
ABLE TO DO OUTREACH TO THEIR
COMMUNITIES. WE THINK THAT'S
MOST EFFECTIVE WHEN DONE IN
PARTNERSHIP WITH COMMUNITY BASED
ORGANIZATIONS, AND THIS BILL
WOULD LEARN FROM THE LUSKIN
CENTER. REPORT AND FIND WAYS TO
IMPROVE THE DISTRIBUTIVE EQUITY.
OF CLEAN CARS FOR ALSO, FOR ALL
THOSE REASONS, WE URGE YOU TO
SUPPORT THE BILL. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. I DO NOT HAVE ANY
OPPOSITION ON FILE. SO WITH THAT
WE'LL GO TO ANYONE IN THE
HEARING ROOM WHO WANTS TO
TESTIFY EITHER FOR OR AGAINST SB
13 82. THE CHAIR AND COMMITTEE
MEMBERS. ORVILLE THOMAS ON
BEHALF OF CAL, START ASKING FOR
YOUR SUPPORT. GOOD AFTERNOON
CHAIR AND MEMBERS ERICA ROMERO
ON BEHALF OF VALLEY CLEANER NOW
IN SUPPORT AND WORKING, LOOKING
FORWARD TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH
THE AUTHOR ON AMENDMENTS. THANK
YOU. OKAY SEEING NO ONE ELSE IN
THE ROOM. OPERATOR CAN YOU
PLEASE OPEN UP THE PHONE LINES
FOR TESTIMONY FOR OR AGAINST SB
13 82. QUÊ MADAM CHAIR FOR THOSE
WHO WISH TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION TO SB 13 82, PLEASE
PRESS 10 AT THIS TIME. WE'RE
GOING TO GO TO LINE 10. YOUR
LINE IS NOW OPEN. THIS IS
SANTIAGO RODRIGUEZ WITH
CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL VOTERS
AND SUPPORT. AND THE FINAL CALL
FOR ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK
IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION THAT 13
82, PLEASE PRESS ONE IN TYROL.
THERE WAS NO ONE ELSE TO SIGNAL
THAT THEY WISH TO SPEAK. THANK
YOU, SIR. ANY MEMBER OF THE
COMMITTEE WISHING TO FUN. IF THE
IF MR CALDWELL CAN'T ANSWER, WE
CAN MOVE IT TO THE TO ASK ONE OF
THE, UH, THOSE THAT WERE
SPEAKING TESTIMONY. UH, SAME
QUESTION. I ASKED, UM TO AH,
SOME SYRIA LIMÓN. IT SEEMS LIKE
THIS BILL DOES NOT PROVIDE, UM,
BENEFIT TO CONVENTIONAL HYBRIDS.
IS THERE A REASON WHY UH UH. YES
SIR. THE CURRENT CLEAN CARS FOR
ALL PROGRAM DOES PROVIDE THE
BENEFIT TO HYBRIDS. MY
UNDERSTANDING. IS THAT AT LEAST
NOW AND GOING FORWARD THE
DECISION TO PROVIDE THAT HYBRID
BENEFIT BENEFIT WOULD BE LEFT TO
THE AIR DISTRICT, WORKING WITH
THE AIR RESOURCES BOARD TO MAKE
SURE THAT, UM THAT IT THAT THE
PURCHASE RELEASE OF WHATEVER
VEHICLE FIT WITHIN THAT DISTRICT
GOALS FOR THE PROGRAM. AND SO I
KNOW, I KNOW THAT RIGHT NOW
THERE'S A LOT OF, UM UH, THE
PROGRAM IS OVERSUBSCRIBED, AND
SO SOME HAVE THOUGHTS THAT THAT
WE COULD LIMIT HYBRID, UM
PURCHASES AND STILL BE
OVERSUBSCRIBED WITH THE PROGRAM,
BUT THAT'S BEEN LEFT INDIVIDUAL
DISTRICTS TO MAKE THAT DECISION.
IF I MAY FOLLOW UP THE DATA I
PROVIDED TO, UM, PERSONAL AMOUNT
RIGHT NOW. I MEAN FAMILIES THAT
ARE 225% OF THE FEDERAL POVERTY
LEVEL AT 33% OF THOSE PURCHASES
OF THOSE WHO PARTICIPATE IN THE
CLEAN CARS FOR ALL PROGRAMS.
PURCHASE A CONVENTIONAL HYBRIDS.
AND SO IT SEEMS LIKE, AT LEAST
FROM THE DATA THAT I'VE SEEN
THAT THAT IS A AFFORDABLE OPTION
FOR LOW INCOME FAMILIES, SO I
JUST WANTED TO AT LEAST
UNDERSTAND, UM, YOU KNOW IF
THERE'S A REASON WHY WE'RE NOT
PROVIDING UM AND INCENTIVE TO
ALLOW. UM UM FAMILIES WHO ARE
SIGNIFICANTLY WHO HAVE INCOME
CHALLENGES. WHY WE WENT TO GIVE
THEM THE OPTION TO PROVIDE A
PRIUS OR SOMETHING ELSE. RIGHT
SOME REMEMBER, FRANK. I THINK
THAT THIS BILL DOES CONTINUE TO
ALLOW THAT, UM. GO AHEAD. YOU'RE
SEEING SOMETHING THAT THAT TAKES
IT AWAY. MINUS READING THE
LANGUAGES AS QUOTE QUALIFIED
MOTOR VEHICLE MEANS A PLUG IN
HYBRID OR ZERO EMISSION VEHICLE,
NOT A CONVENTIONAL HYBRID. I'M
NOT HERE, DEBBIE QUIBBLE. I
MEAN, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THE OF
THE CONCEPT IN THE IN THE IN THE
INCENTIVE. I'M JUST TRYING TO
UNDERSTAND IF THERE'S A REASON
WHY WHY THERE'S AN EXCLUSION OF
A CONVENTIONAL HYBRID. OKAY I
THINK IN THE ABSENCE OF THE
SENATOR, WE MAYBE CAN'T CAN'T
GIVE YOU A VERY DIRECT ANSWER ON
THAT. I HAVE BEEN TOLD, THOUGH,
BY UM THOSE WHO ADMINISTER SOME
OF THE PROGRAMS THAT THEY FOUND
THAT THE BEST DEALS FOR
CONSUMERS ACTUALLY ARE WITH THE
PLUG IN VEHICLES, WHETHER IT BE
A BATTERY ELECTRIC OR PLUG IN
HYBRID, UM, THAT THOSE ARE
PROVIDING THE MOST VALUE FOR
CONSUMERS, AND I THINK,
ESPECIALLY NOW, WITH GAS PRICES
BEING SO HIGH THAT THAT WOULD BE
THE CASE. I APPRECIATE THAT.
MAYBE I'LL ASK THE AUTHOR, UM UM
OFF OFFLINE. IT'S ONE OF THOSE
SITUATIONS. IF SOMEONE WERE TO
PURCHASE A XEV, THEY MIGHT HAVE
TO UPGRADE THEIR HOME OR UPGRADE
THEIR APARTMENT. UM, YOU KNOW,
WITH WITH WITH ADDITIONAL, UM,
ASPECTS TO SUPPORT THEIR THEY
HAVE WHERE IF THEY WERE TO BUY,
SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, A PRIUS OR A
FORD ESCAPE, THAT WAS A
CONVENTIONAL HYBRID. MAY BE ABLE
TO IT WOULD SIGNIFICANTLY
UPGRADE THEIR 2021 22 YEAR OLD
VEHICLE TO SOMETHING THAT IS
SIGNIFICANTLY CLEANER, BUT NOT
UM, NOT EXACTLY. THE CRITERIA
THAT IS OUTLINED. SO THANK YOU
VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THAT. THANK
YOU. ANYONE ELSE FROM THE
COMMITTEE? WELL ALTHOUGH SHE'S
NOT HERE, I DO WANT TO THANK
SENATOR GONZALEZ AND HER STAFF
ARE WORKING WITH THE COMMITTEE.
UM TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BILL
GOING FORWARD IS MINDFUL OF
NEGOTIATIONS HAPPENING IN THE
BUDGET PROCESS. RELATED TO THE
EXPANSION OF THE CLEAN CARS FOR
ALL PROGRAMS. UM AND I WILL BE
SUPPORTING THE BILL. TODAY WHEN
WE HAVE A QUORUM. WE WILL TAKE
THE ROLE TO SOMEBODY WANT TO
MOVE THE BILL AND SECOND IT
WHILE WE'RE WE HAVE A MOTION AND
A SECOND, WE'LL TAKE A ROLE
SHORTLY. OKAY I WAS IN, MADAM.
SURE JUST SAID THIS PAIR IS VERY
NICELY WITH SOME OF THE
INVESTMENTS. WE'RE MAKING
INFRASTRUCTURE, PARTICULARLY
PARTICULARLY IN UNDERSERVED
COMMUNITIES, LIKE IN EAST SAN
JOSE, VERY DRAMATICALLY
EXPANDING THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO
ALLOW FOR FAMILIES ABLE TO
TAKE ADVANTAGE OF A PLUG IN
HYBRIDS OR COMPLETELY 100%
ELECTRIC. VEHICLES THEY ALSO
DESERVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE
ACCESS TO THESE VEHICLES AS
WE'RE TRYING TO REACH OUR
TARGETS AND GOALS AND I WOULD
LOVE TO BE ADDED AS A CO AUTHOR,
AS I'M PRESENTING TO THE BILL AS
WELL, THANK YOU. YOU WANT? WELL,
LET US THE SO WE WILL LET THE
SENATOR KNOW. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. OKAY WOULD YOU LIKE TO
PRESENT SP 13 98?
IT'S REALLY IT'S UP TO YOU IF
YOU WANT TO WAIT FOR A MOMENT
AND LIKE IT'S YOUR PREROGATIVE,
MADAME CHIEF WANNABE FOR SENATOR
MATTER TO US, UM WANT TO GO. WHY
DON'T YOU LET MR NAZARIAN DO IT?
AND THEN WE'LL BRING YOU BACK
UP. WHATEVER YOU LIKE, AS LONG
AS YOU'RE GONNA STAY TO VOTE. WE
JUST NEED SOMEBODY TO OKAY,
OKAY. YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND
PRESENT IF YOU LIKE. I DON'T
THINK THE SENATORS ARE GOING TO
BE MAKING THEIR WAY OVER, BUT IT
WILL GIVE YOU A FEW MINUTES TO
LOOK AT BOTH OF THE BILLS.
WE HAVE A MOTION. NOT SURE IF I
SHOULD TAKE MY TIME OR NOT HERE.
SO I'LL. I'LL GIVE MY COLLEAGUES
A LITTLE BIT OF AN OPPORTUNITY
FROM THE SENATOR ARRIVED HERE AS
WELL AS MY COLLEAGUE HERE TO BE
PREPARED FOR THE SENATE BILLS
SHOULD HAVE SENATORS NOT COME
HERE. SO MADAM CHAIR AND
COLLEAGUES ASSEMBLY JOINT
RESOLUTION 32 SIGNALS THEIR
LEGISLATURES. SUPPORT FOR HOUSE
RESOLUTION 3339, WHICH IS
FEDERAL LEGISLATION ESTABLISHING
A NATIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE BANK
TO FACILITATE THE FINANCING OF
URGENTLY NEEDED INFRASTRUCTURE
PROJECTS IN THE UNITED STATES.
COLLEAGUES CALIFORNIA
DESPERATELY NEEDS THIS FEDERAL
LEGISLATION TO DEAL WITH OUR
INADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE ON
VARIOUS TYPES OF INFRASTRUCTURE
. THE AMERICAN SOCIETY OF CIVIL
ENGINEERS DID NOT GIVE
CALIFORNIA GREAT HIGHER THAN A C
MINUS. AS WE DEAL WITH
DILAPIDATED INFRASTRUCTURE AND
RETHINKING TRANSPORTATION IN
LIGHT OF CLIMATE CHANGE, A
NATIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE BANK TO
HELP FUND THESE INITIATIVES AS
CRITICAL. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR
TIME AND CONSIDERATION. AH! I
BELIEVE THERE ARE TWO WITNESSES
, PART READ WHO IS THE EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR OF THE TRANSIT
COALITION AS WELL AS ELLEN
BROWN, WHO IS THE CHAIR OF THE
PUBLIC BANKING INSTITUTE. OKAY,
ARE EITHER OF THE WITNESSES HERE
IN THE ROOM? OKAY? I DON'T SEE
EITHER WITNESS HERE. WE'RE NOT
DOING ANY PHONE WITNESS
TESTIMONY. UM SO IS THERE
ANYBODY ELSE IN THE ROOM WISHING
TO TESTIFY FOR OR AGAINST THE A.
J. R. FACING NONE. OPERATOR CAN
YOU PLEASE OPEN UP THE PHONE
LINES FOR WITNESSES, EITHER IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION OF A J. R
32. THOSE WHO WISH TO SPEAK AND
SUPPORT HER OPPOSITION. PLEASE
PRESS ONE, THEN ZERO PLUS ONE
AND ZERO. MADAM CHAIR. NO ONE
HAS SIGNALED THAT THEY WISH TO
SPEAK. OKAY. THANK YOU. WE'LL
TAKE IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE TO
SEE IF ANYBODY HAS ANY
QUESTIONS. COMMENTS CONCERNS THE
AUTHOR. WELL I WILL JUST SAY
THAT CREATING A NATIONAL STATE
INFRASTRUCTURE FINANCING
AUTHORITY TO ADMINISTER AND
TRACK INCOMING IJ FUNDS AND
REOCCURRING FAST ACT FUNDS WILL
HELP THE STATE AND IT WILL ALSO
HELP THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
THIS COULD GROW OUR ECONOMY BY
ABOUT 5% ANNUALLY, AND IT'S A
VERY IMPORTANT TASK OF OUR
FEDERAL PARTNERS. AND I WILL BE
SUPPORTING THIS TODAY AND I VERY
MUCH APPRECIATE SOME REMEMBER
NAZARIAN FOR BRINGING THE A J F
R FORWARD IF YOU'D LIKE TO CLOSE
YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU, MADAM
CHAIR. THE ONLY THING I'D LIKE
TO CLOSE WITH IS THAT I THOUGHT
I WAS READING MY NOTES WRONG, SO
I DECIDED TO FORGO READING WHAT
I WAS GONNA SORT WHAT I WAS
SUPPOSED TO READ. AH! I WAS
BEING MY NOTES SUGGESTED THAT I
WAS GOING TO BE READING THE
TESTIMONIES OF THE TWO WITNESSES
MYSELF. SO SINCE I DIDN'T DO
THAT, WHAT I'M HAPPY TO DO IS
FOR AN ISSUE AND YOUR COMMITTEE
WITH THEIR TESTIMONIES AND LEAVE
IT AT THAT. THANK YOU. SOME
REMEMBER. IT'S DEFINITELY THAT
KIND OF DAY. SO WE VERY MUCH
APPRECIATE THAT AND YOUR
FLEXIBILITY AND DO WE HAVE A
MOTION AND A SECOND. WE ALREADY
GOT THEM. EXCELLENT THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. WE'LL TAKE A VOTE. AS
SOON AS WE HAVE A QUORUM, AND
WITH THAT WE'LL SEND MR KALRA
BACK UP TO GO BACK TO WORK
AGAIN.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS. BEFORE I BEGIN ON
BEHALF OF SENATOR GONZALEZ. I'D
LIKE TO ACCEPT THE COMMITTEE'S
SUGGESTED AMENDMENTS. AND I'M
HERE TO PUT TO I'M HERE TODAY TO
PRESENT ON BEHALF OF THE SENATOR
SENATE BILL 13 98 WHICH WILL
HELP INCREASE CONSUMER SAFETY
WHEN IT COMES TO PURCHASING AND
USING VEHICLES WITH THAT PARTIAL
DRIVING AUTOMATION FUTURE. SP 13
98 REQUIRES DEALERS AND
MANUFACTURERS THAT SELL NEW
VEHICLES EQUIPPED WITH THE
PARTIAL DRIVING AUTOMATION
FEATURE OR PROVIDE ANY SOFTWARE
UPDATE OR VEHICLE UPGRADE THAT
ADDS A PARTIAL DRIVING
AUTOMATION FEATURE. TO GIVE
DRIVERS A DISTINCT DESCRIPTION
OF THE FUNCTIONS AND LIMITATIONS
OF THOSE FEATURES AND PROHIBITS
THE MANUFACTURER OR DEALER FROM
DECEPTIVELY NAMING OR MARKETING.
THESE FEATURES. CURRENTLY THE
DMV REGULATES AUTONOMOUS DRIVING
SYSTEMS, MEANING THOSE THOSE
THAT DO NOT REQUIRE ACTIVE
CONTROL OR MONITORING BY A HUMAN
DRIVER. HOWEVER THE DMV DOES NOT
REGULATE PARTIAL DRIVING
AUTOMATION FEATURES. THUS THE D
M V HAS LITTLE OVERSIGHT ON THE
NAMING MARKETING OR DESCRIPTIONS
OF PARTIAL DRIVING AUTOMATION
FEATURES. THIS GAP IN OVERSIGHT
MEANS THAT CONSUMERS CAN BE
CONFUSED OR PURPOSELY
PURPOSEFULLY MISLED BY THE
DESCRIPTION OR NAMING OF THESE
FEATURES. A TRIPLE A CONSUMER
SURVEY IN 2018 FOUND 40% OF
AMERICANS EXPECTED MONITORED
AUTOPILOT SYSTEMS WITH NAMES
LIKE AUTOPILOT. PRO PILOT OR
PILOT ASSISTS TO HAVE THE
ABILITY TO DRIVE THE CAR ON ITS
OWN. THE ATTENTIVE OF SP 13 98
IS NOT TO REPLACE PROPRIETARY
NAMES CREATED BY THE AUTOMAKERS
NOR STIFLE INNOVATION OF NEW
FEATURES. RATHER IT IS TO HELP
IDENTIFY THE KEY FUNCTIONS AND
LIMITATIONS OF THE FEATURES. SO
THAT CONSUMERS CAN USE AND ENJOY
THE FEATURES SAFELY AND AS
INTENDED. TESTIFYING IN SUPPORT
OF THIS MEASURE IS AMANDA
GUADARRAMA WITH TRIPLE A THANK
YOU AND I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
MY VOTE ON SP 13 98 BEFORE WE
PROCEED. I JUST WANT TO MAKE A
CORRECTION. I KNOW THAT YOU'RE
PRESENTING FOR SENATOR GONZALEZ
AND I VERY MUCH APPRECIATED. YOU
DID SAY YOU WERE ACCEPTING
SUGGESTED AMENDMENTS, BUT
ACTUALLY, THE AUTHOR IS NOT
ACCEPTING. THE AMENDMENT, SO I
JUST WANT TO CLARIFY. THAT'S
OKAY. SO FOR THE RECORD AND FOR
ANYBODY LISTENING, THE BILL IS
GOING TO BE, UM, MOVED AS IT WAS
SUBMITTED WITHOUT THE AND FOR.
THE REGULAR STAFF REMINDED ME OF
THAT, BUT I HAD GONE THROUGH THE
OTHER BILLS AND CAME BACK TO IT.
SO MY OKAY. WE VERY
MUCH APPRECIATE YOUR HELP. AND
WITH THAT WE CAN HAVE THE
WITNESSES IN, UH, SUPPORT TO
COME TO THE TABLE IF YOU'RE THE
REGISTERED WITNESSES AND SUPPORT
YES, PLEASE. ARE YOU WITH ARE
YOU WITH TRIPLE A OKAY, YOU'LL
HAVE TWO MINUTES. MADAM CHAIR.
AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE TIM
CHANG WITH THE AUTO CLUB OF
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. SORRY I AM
NOT AMANDA GUADARRAMA. BUT IN
ANY EVENT EIGHT AS TECHNOLOGY
CONTINUES TO IMPROVE THE
CONVENIENCE AND SAFETY OF
DRIVING BY WARNING, A DRIVER
THAT CRASH IS IMMINENT. UH AND
BY TEMPORARILY AUTOMATING
CERTAIN ASPECTS OF THE VEHICLE
LIKE ACCELERATION, BRAKING,
STEERING, ETCETERA. WE BELIEVE
THIS TECHNOLOGY HAS WIDE RANGING
RAMIFICATIONS AND CAN GREATLY
REDUCE THE POTENTIAL OR TRAFFIC
INJURIES, FATALITIES AND
CRASHES. OUR RESEARCH CONTINUES
TO SHOW THAT AIDS FEATURES WILL
ASSIST UM, DRIVERS, BUT THEY
CANNOT BE SOLELY RELIED UPON OUR
SURVEYS SHOW THAT CONSUMERS LACK
FULL UNDERSTANDING OF KEY
LIMITATIONS TO EIGHT S SYSTEMS.
IN THEIR CARS. THIS IS EXACTLY
WHY PROVIDING CONSUMERS WHO
UTILIZE VEHICLES WITH EIGHT S
FEATURES WITH A NOTICE THAT
DESCRIBES THOSE FUNCTIONS AND
THE LIMITATIONS OF THOSE
FUNCTIONS IS CRITICALLY
IMPORTANT. WE LOOK FORWARD TO
WORKING WITH THE SENATOR IN THE
MANUFACTURERS AND ANYONE ELSE TO
CONTINUE TO ENSURE THAT EIGHT S
FEATURES PROGRESS WHILE ENSURING
FULL CONSUMER EDUCATION. ABOUT
THESE FEATURES. WE URGE AND I
VOTE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK
YOU KNOW I DO HAVE REGISTERED
OPPOSITION FROM THE ALLIANCE FOR
AUTOMATED INNOVATION AND TESLA.
OKAY, SO IF YOU CAN JUST COME UP
TO THE TABLE, PLEASE. GOOD
AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS
OF THE COMMITTEE JOHN MOFFITT ON
BEHALF OF THEALLIANCE FOR
AUTOMOTIVE INNOVATION. WE HAVE
AN OPPOSING LESS AMENDED
POSITION ON THE BILL. WE
APPRECIATE WORKING WITH THE
AUTHOR AND HER STAFF. WE THINK
THE ISSUES THAT THAT THIS
COMMITTEE HAS JURISDICTION OVER
WE ARE WE'RE SQUARED AWAY. I
THINK WE'VE GOT A LOT OF THOSE
TECHNICAL THINGS TAKEN CARE OF.
WE JUST HAVE TO REMAINING ISSUES
WITH THE BILL THAT WILL PROBABLY
BE TAKEN UP IN THE JUDICIARY
COMMITTEE. FIRST WE ARE NOT
OPPOSED TO NOTICE OF THE
CONSUMER AND WE ARE NOT OPPOSED
FOR BEING RESPONSIBLE TO MAKE
SURE THAT NOTICE MEETS THE
REQUIREMENTS OF THIS BILL. WE DO
THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT
CONSUMERS UNDERSTAND THE
TECHNOLOGY WHAT IT CAN AND CAN'T
DO ON THESE VEHICLES. UM, WE DO
HAVE SOME CHALLENGES WITH SUB D
IN THE BILL, WHICH, UH, YOU
KNOW, PROVIDING NOTICE TO
CONSUMERS IS A PRETTY COMMON
DEFENSE IN NEGLIGENCE AND
PRODUCT DEFECT CASES. WE THINK
IT IT WE THINK THE BILL
OVERREACHES BY TAKING NOTICE OUT
AS A POTENTIAL DEFENSE. IT'S
PRETTY PRETTY COMMONLY USED
DEFENSE. IT'S NOT ABSOLUTE, AND
IT DOESN'T MEAN THERE'S NO
LIABILITY. BUT YOU KNOW, IF
THERE WERE A LAWSUIT, IT SHOULD
BE ABLE TO BE RAISED THE NOTICE
THAT'S PROVIDED THE SECOND IS IN
THE NEW SUB OF THE BILL DEALING
WITH DEALERS. WE WANT TO MAKE
SURE THAT THAT THE CONSUMER GETS
THE NOTICE THAT WE'RE PUTTING
TOGETHER AND THAT THERE IS SOME
DEFENSE FOR AUTO MANUFACTURERS.
FOR SOME REASON, THE CONSUMER
DOES NOT GET THAT NOTICE FROM
THE DEALER, BUT WE LOOK FORWARD
TO CONTINUE WORKING WITH THE
AUTHOR ON THOSE ISSUES AS I
PRESUME IT MOVES FORWARD. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. IS THERE SOMEONE
FROM TESLA? WELL NO. OKAY SO
WITH THAT, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE
IN THE ROOM WHO WANTS TO VOICE
THEIR SUPPORTER OPPOSITION? TO S
B 13 98. OKAY SEEING NO ONE IN
THE ROOM. OPERATOR COULD YOU
PLEASE OPEN UP THE PHONE LINES
FOR WITNESSES AND SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION OF SP 13 98? THOSE
WHO WISH TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION TO SB 13 98, PLEASE
PRESS ONE AND ZERO, PRESS ONE
AND ZERO WE'RE GOING TO GO TO
LINE 23. MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS,
MAINLY ON BEHALF OF TESLA. UM WE
ARE REGISTERING OUR OPPOSITION.
WE SHARE THE AUTHORS PRIORITY
FOR A DRIVER EDUCATION, BUT WE
WANT TO ALIGN OUR COMMENTS WITH
THE AUTO ALIGN. THANK YOU. AND
THERE WAS NO ONE ELSE TO SIGNAL
THAT THEY WISH TO SPEAK. THANK
YOU. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE
COMMITTEE WITH ANY QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS? WE WANT TO SAY THAT
THIS IS THIS IS AN IMPORTANT
BILL. UM AND I'M VERY THANKFUL
TO THE AUTHOR FOR TAKING IT ON
AND ALSO FOR WORKING WITH OUR
COMMITTEE, AND I KNOW THAT SHE
WILL BE DOING A LOT OF WORK IN
THE NEXT COMMITTEE INTRODUCED
SHERRY AS WELL. LEVEL TWO DRIVER
IS THIS TECHNOLOGY DOES HAVE A
LOT OF POTENTIAL TO REDUCE
COLLISIONS. BY PERFORMING
DRIVING TASKS THAT CAN PROTECT
DRIVERS AND OTHER USERS OF THE
ROAD. HOWEVER OVER RELIANCE ON
SYSTEMS OR LACK OF UNDERSTANDING
FROM DRIVERS ABOUT THE
LIMITATIONS OF THOSE SYSTEMS IS
ALSO HAS THE POTENTIAL TO CAUSE
COLLISIONS, AS WE HAVE SEEN AT
SOME TIMES OVER THE LAST FEW
YEARS. AND I APPRECIATE THE
AUTHORS DESIRE TO MAKE SURE THAT
CONSUMERS ARE FULLY UNDERSTAND
THE LIMITATIONS AND THE
CAPABILITIES OF THE TECHNOLOGY
IN THE PARTICULAR VEHICLE THAT
THEY HAVE. I SHARE SOME OF THE
OPPOSITION'S CONCERNS ABOUT THE
LANGUAGE IN THE BILL THAT
REMOVES A LEGITIMATE DEFENSE IN
A NEGLIGENCE LAWSUIT PREVENTING
AUTOMAKERS FROM ASSERTING THAT
THEY PROVIDED THE CONSUMER WITH
PROPER INFORMATION. AND I DO
EXPECT THE SENATOR TO CONTINUE
WORKING WITH ALL OF THE
STAKEHOLDERS. AS THEY MOVE INTO
THE NEXT COMMITTEE TO MAKE SURE
THAT AUTOMAKERS AND DEALERS HAVE
THE RIGHT TO LAUNCH LEGITIMATE
DEFENSE IF THEY DO FACE A
LAWSUIT. AND AS FOR THE
PROVISIONS RELATING TO
MISLEADING ADVERTISING, BOTH
CALIFORNIA AND DMV.
MODELS THAT THEY MAY CONSIDER.
CONSUMERS ALSO UNDERSTAND THE
LIMITATIONS OF THOSE VEHICLES.
I'M GOING TO BE SUPPORTING THE
BILL TODAY, AND DO YOU LOOK
FORWARD TO IT? MOVING FORWARD?
DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THAT
BILL? WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE
HAVE A SECOND? OKAY, I'M GOING
TO PAUSE FOR A MOMENT TO TAKE
ROLL SO THAT WE CAN ESTABLISH A
QUORUM. FRIEDMAN FRIEDMAN HERE
FUNK. HERE ALONG HERE, BERMAN.
FROM IN HERE, CUNNINGHAM DAVIES.
DAVIES HERE, GIBSON HERE IN
HERE. CHOLERA. OVER HERE, LEE.
OH REALLY? HERE MEDINA MEDINA
HERE. THANK YOU. AND WITH THAT,
WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE? YOU
HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND
FASTER AND I VOTE. OKAY, SO WHY
DON'T WE GO AHEAD AND TAKE ROLE
IN THIS ONE? SP 13 98 D PASS TO
JUDICIARY. FRIEDMAN FRIEDMAN. I
PH. HONG I. BERMAN BERMAN. I
CUNNINGHAM DAVIES. DAVIES. I
GIBSON. GIBSON I KALRA COBRA. I
LI LI I MEDINA MEDINA. I
NAZARIAN NGUYEN. O'DONNELL.
WARD. WEEKS. 800 THAT BILL IS
OUT, AND WE WILL HOLD THE ROLL
OPEN, PERHAPS, AND MEMBERS. WHY
DON'T WE, UM SOMEBODY MOVED THE
CONSENT CALENDAR AND WE'LL
DISPOSE OF THAT. WE HAVE A
MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE
CONSENT CALENDAR. CAN WE HAVE A
ROLL CALL, PLEASE? ITEMS ON
CONSENT. FRIEDMAN FRIEDMAN, I
PH FOLLOWING I BERMAN BERMAN.
I CUNNINGHAM DAVIES. STEVIE'S,
AYE, GIBSON. GIBSON I CALL RA
RA. I LI REALLY I MEDINA MEDINA.
I NAZARIAN NGUYEN. O'DONNELL.
WARD. WEEKS. 80 AND JUST TO BE
CLEAR THAT WHAT CONSISTED OF SB
11 11. SB 11 21, SB 9 85 AND SB
8 37. THOSE BILLS ARE ALL OUT.
AND WITH THAT, MR KALRA, I
BELIEVE THAT YOU ARE ALSO GOING
TO BE PRESENTING SP 10 97. AND
79. 10 79. I THINK THANK YOU,
MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS. HAPPY
TO PRESENT ON BEHALF OF SENATOR
PORTANTINO SB 10 79, WHICH
CURRENTLY ALLOWS FOR A PILOT FOR
SIX CITIES TO OPERATE A VEHICLE
NOISE CAMERA PROGRAM. LIKE TO
START BY ACCEPTING THE COMMITTEE
AMENDMENTS MENTIONED IN RN 2021
33 09 BY THE ASSEMBLY
TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE.
MEMBERS THAT IS CURRENTLY
ILLEGAL TO MODIFY A VEHICLE IN
ANY WAY THAT AMPLIFIES THE NOISE
EMITTED BY THE VEHICLE FOR THE
AVERAGE SIZED CARTER, THEY
CANNOT ADMIT SOUNDS GREATER THAN
95 DECIBELS. UNFORTUNATELY THERE
IS CURRENTLY NO UNIVERSAL MEANS
TO MONITOR AND ENFORCE THESE
LAWS. EXPOSURE ALLOWS SOUNDS,
INCLUDING NOISE FROM VEHICLE
EXHAUST SYSTEMS CAN HARM OUR
HEALTH AND WELL BEING BY
CONTRIBUTING TO HYPERTENSION
HEARING LOSS, SEVEN DIFFICULTIES
INCREASED STRESS LEVELS,
CARDIOVASCULAR DISEASE,
PSYCHIATRIC DISORDERS AND CHILD
DEVELOPMENT ISSUES. THIS LOUD
VEHICLE NOISE IS OFTEN
ACCOMPANIED BY OTHER RECKLESS
BEHAVIOR SUCH AS STREET RACING
INSIDE SHOWS, WHICH FURTHER
ENDANGERS LIVES. WITH THE
COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS. THIS BILL
WILL HAVE CHP STUDY THE USE OF
AUTOMATED NOISE CAMERAS AND HOW
THEY MAY BE USED EFFECTIVELY IN
CALIFORNIA. THIS TECHNOLOGY IS
CURRENTLY IN USE IN ENGLAND,
FRANCE, NEW YORK AND TENNESSEE
AND SHOULD BE USED HERE IN
CALIFORNIA AS WELL TO CURB
ILLEGALLY LOUD VEHICLE NOISE. I
LOOK FORWARD TO THE OUTCOMES OF
THE CHP REPORT AND SOLVING THIS
NUISANCE TO HELP CREATE MORE
LIVABLE CITIES TODAY HERE TO
TESTIFY AND SUPPORTS MARK
VUCEVIC'S FROM STREETS FOR ALL
THANK YOU. AND YOU HAVE TWO
MINUTES, PLEASE. THANK YOU.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S CHOLERA. THANK
YOU, SENATOR PORTANTINO FOR
AUTHORING THIS BILL AND THANK
YOU TO CHAIR FRIEDMAN FOR YOU
AND YOUR STAFF'S HARD WORK ON
THE AMENDMENTS. MY NAME IS MARK
VUKCEVIC'S LEGISLATIVE ADVOCATE
FOR STREETS FOR ALL NONPROFIT
DEDICATED TO SAFE,EQUITABLE AND
SUSTAINABLE TRANSPORTATION IN
PUBLIC SPACE, WHERE THE PROUD
SPONSOR OF 10 79. NOISE
POLLUTION. IT'S NOT MERELY A
NUISANCE. IT'S A GROWING PUBLIC
HEALTH ISSUE IN OUR CITIES. A
2018 REPORT BY W. W. H O AND A U
N REPORT IN FEBRUARY BOTH
DECLARED URBAN NOISE POLLUTION
AS ONE OF THE WORLD'S TOP
EMERGING ENVIRONMENTAL THREATS.
LARGE SCALE STUDIES SHOW THAT IT
NOISE EXPOSURE OVER MANY YEARS
INCREASES YOUR RISK OF HIGH
BLOOD PRESSURE, CORONARY HEART
DISEASE, HEART ATTACKS AS WELL
AS STROKES, DIABETES, DEMENTIA
AND DEPRESSION. CHILDREN SUFFER
NOT ONLY PHYSIOLOGICALLY BUT
ALSO COGNITIVELY AND ONE STUDY
THE READING SCORES OF SIXTH
GRADERS WITH MORE NEARBY URBAN
NOISE NEARLY A YEAR BEHIND THOSE
STUDENTS WITH QUIETER CLASSROOMS
, A DIFFERENCE THAT DISAPPEARED
ONCE SOUNDPROOFING MATERIALS
WERE INSTALLED. 11 OF THE MOST
RECOGNIZABLE CAUSES OF THIS IS
ILLEGALLY MODIFIED MUFFLERS.
THESE ARE CARS THAT PEOPLE SPENT
THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS ON TO MAKE
LOUD AND WHEN THESE CARS DRIVE
pIN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, WHAT DO
THEY DO? THEY MAKE OUR SMART
SMALL BUSINESSES UNABLE TO HAVE
PLEASANT AND PROFITABLE OUTDOOR
DINING. THEY WAKE UP OUR
CHILDREN AT NIGHT. AND IT
REDUCES THE QUALITY OF HEALTH OF
YOUR OWN LIFE. THIS IS A LOUD
ISSUE THAT WE ARE SILENT ON. I
URGE YOU ALL TO HAVE CALIFORNIA
LEAD ON THIS ISSUE BY STUDYING
NOISE CAMERAS AS A POTENTIAL
SOLUTION FOR LIKE CITIES AROUND
THE GLOBE ARE CURRENTLY DOING.
THIS BILL REQUIRES MULTIPLE
MULTIPLE COMPANIES TECHNOLOGIES
TO BE STUDIED AND COMPARED IT
WILL REQUIRE AN ASSESSMENT OF
THE TECHNOLOGY'S RELIABILITY AND
ACCURACY AND LASTLY, IT WILL
RECOMMEND RULES THAT SHOULD
ACCOMPANY THIS NEW TECHNOLOGY. I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR I VOTE
TO SUPPORT CALIFORNIA'S
LEADERSHIP ON THIS URGENT ISSUE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I BELIEVE THAT WITH THE
AMENDMENTS THAT ARE BEING WILL
BE TAKEN IN THIS COMMITTEE THAT
THE OPPOSITION HAS MOVED TO
NEUTRAL JUST TO MAKE SURE IS
THERE ANYBODY IN THE ROOM WHO
WAS A PRIMARY OPPOSITION WITNESS
WHO WANTS TO SPEAK? OKAY SEEING
NONE. IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE
ROOM WISHING TO SPEAK FOR OR
AGAINST SB 10 79. OKAY SEEING
NONE. OPERATOR CAN YOU PLEASE
OPEN UP THE PHONES FOR SP 10 79?
THOSE WHO WISH TO SPEAK IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION OF SB 10
79, PLEASE PRESS ONE AND ZERO
WE'RE GONNA GO TO LINE 24. MADAM
CHAIR AND MEMBERS SYLVIA POLICE
SHOT ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF
SANTA MONICA. AND SUPPORT THANK
YOU. WE HAVE AT LEAST ONE MORE
PERSON WHO SIGNALED THAT THEY
WISH TO SPEAK JUST A MOMENT.
REALLY GOOD TO LINE SIX. HI
BECCA. CRAMER MATTER ON BEHALF
OF A SALE, YOU CALIFORNIA ACTION
. WE THINK THE AUTHORS OFFICE
AND THE COMMITTEE FOR YOUR WORK
ON THIS BILL AND ARE PLEASED TO
REMOVE OUR OPPOSITION WITH THE
AMENDMENTS TAKEN TODAY. THERE
WAS NO ONE ELSE TO SIGNAL THAT
THEY WISH TO SPEAK. OKAY WE HAVE
NO MORE WITNESSES AND SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION. WOULD ANYBODY LIKE
TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS OR ASK ANY
QUESTIONS OF THE AUTHOR OR THE
SUBSTITUTE AUTHOR? OKAY. WELL I
WANT TO THANK SENATOR PORTANTINO
FOR BRINGING THIS BILL FORWARD.
THIS IS THEY'RE NOT SILENT ABOUT
THIS IN MY COMMUNITY. THIS IS
ONE OF THE NUMBER ONE SOURCES OF
COMPLAINTS THAT COME INTO OUR
POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THAT WE
GET IN OUR OFFICE AS WELL. SO
I'M REALLY HAPPY TO SEE SOMEBODY
TAKING. YOU KNOW, SOME COMPANIES
DEVELOPING TECHNOLOGY THAT MIGHT
HELP FIND THE OFFENDERS AND
BRING THEM TO JUSTICE AND HOLD
THEM ACCOUNTABLE. IT IS
IMPORTANT THAT WE TEXT TEST THE
TECHNOLOGY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
KNOW IT'S LIMITATION SO THAT
THESE TICKETS CAN BE DEFENSIBLE
IN COURT. BUT I'M REALLY
LOOKING. I'M VERY MUCH LOOKING
FORWARD TO SEEING CHP'S
ASSESSMENT, AND I HOPE THAT
PRETTY SOON WE'LL HAVE A BILL
THAT ALLOWS THESE DEVICES TO BE
USED. SO THANKS AGAIN FOR
BRINGING THIS FORWARD. DID YOU
WANT TO CLOSE? WITH THE WITH THE
AMENDMENTS. I ALSO MOVED TO
NEUTRAL AND WOULD ENCOURAGE
EVERYONE TO VOTE AYE ON THIS,
BILL. O UH AND I WILL BE TAKING
LEAVE NOW, MADAM CHAIR. I'LL BE
ASKING SENATOR RULES FOR SENATOR
DIEM AS WELL. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. AND DO WE HAVE A MOTION OR
A SECOND FOR THIS BILL AS
AMENDED ON THE ON THE BILL. OKAY
SO THE MOTION IS TO PASS AS
AMENDED TO JUDICIARY. WE HAVE
EMOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. CAN
WE HAVE ROLL CALL, PLEASE? SP 10
79 DO PASS AS A MINUTE TO
JUDICIARY. FRIEDMAN FRIEDMAN. I
PH FUNNY. I BERMAN BERMAN. I
CUNNINGHAM DAVIES DAVIES, I
GIBSON GIBSON. I CALDERON.
COVER. I LI LEE MEDINA. MEDINA
NAZARIAN. NGUYEN. NOT VOTING
WHEN NOT VOTING. O'DONNELL.
O'DONNELL I AWARD WORN I WICKS.
WEEKS. I. 11 0 11 0. THAT BILL
IS OUT, AND I BELIEVE THAT OUR
LAST BILL SB 9 86 WILL BE
PRESENTED BY MR BERMAN. FOR
SENATOR AMBERG. THANK YOU, MR
BERMAN FOR HELPING. WE HAVE A
MOTION AND A SECOND. THANK YOU,
MADAM CHAIR AND COLLEAGUES.
FIRST SENATOR AMBURG WOULD LIKE
TO THANK SHERIFF FRIEDMAN AND
HER STAFF, INCLUDING DAVID'S
FORSA FOR THEIR HARD WORK ON
THIS BILL. TODAY I PRESENT SP 9
86 PREVENTING CATALYTIC
CONVERTER THEFT AS YOU ALL KNOW,
KIND OF CATALYTIC CONVERTER
THEFTS ARE AN EPIDEMIC ACROSS
CALIFORNIA AND IN ALL OF OUR
DISTRICTS. UNFORTUNATELY, THERE
ARE SIGNIFICANT LEGAL
CHALLENGES. AND PROSECUTING THE
THEFT OF A CATALYTIC CONVERTER
UNDER CALIFORNIA LAW UNDER
CURRENT CALIFORNIA LAW, SB 9 86
WOULD ADDRESS THIS ISSUE AND
WILL PROTECT CALIFORNIANS BY
REQUIRING CAR DEALERS TO MARKET
VEHICLES EQUIPPED WITH THE
CATALYTIC CONVERTER OF VEHICLES
UP FOR SALE. I THINK I GOT THAT
RIGHT. THE ETCHING PROCESS CAN
BE BOTH EASY AND INEXPENSIVE.
ALSO CURRENTLY THE EXISTING LAWS
INSUFFICIENT BECAUSE IT LACKS
THE OBLIGATION OF A CORE
RECYCLER TO OBTAIN INFORMATION
NECESSARY TO IDENTIFY THE ORIGIN
. THEY USED CATALYTIC CONVERTER
THAT THE CORE RECYCLER
PURCHASED. THEREFORE SP 9 86
WILL AMEND THE CODE BY REQUIRING
RECYCLERS TO LOG THE UNIQUE
IDENTIFICATION NUMBER OF EACH
CATALYTIC CONVERTER, IF ANY, IN
ADDITION TO ALL OTHER CURRENT
IDENTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS.
LASTLY AS B 9 86 WOULD ALSO
REQUIRE COURT RECYCLERS PROVIDE
PAYMENT FOR CATALYTIC CONVERTERS
TO BE MADE OR BE MADE BY ANY
TRACEABLE FORM OF PAYMENT OTHER
THAN CASH. AND WITH ME TODAY ARE
ALEXANDER CAR CANNON WITH THE
LOS ANGELES COUNTY DISTRICT
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND AMANDA
GUADARRAMA WITH AUTOMOBILE CLUB
OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. WHO ALSO
TESTIFY IN SUPPORT. I THINK.
THANK YOU. YES WE HAVE TWO
WITNESSES EACH FOR TWO MINUTES.
GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS ALEX
. CAR CANNON. I'M A DEPUTY
DISTRICT ATTORNEY WITH THE LOS
ANGELES COUNTY DISTRICT
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. I'VE BEEN A D
A FOR 29 YEARS. 14 OF THOSE HAVE
BEEN THE CAR GUY IN L. A. I HAVE
BEEN THE DEPUTY IN CHARGE OF THE
LOS ANGELES COUNTY AUTO THEFT
TASK FORCE. I'M HERE TO TALK TO
YOU TODAY ABOUT THE TRAUMATIC
INCREASE IN CATALYTIC CONVERTER
THEFT. I'M NOT GOING TO BELABOR
THE PROBLEM. WE ALL KNOW THAT
IT'S A IT'S AN EPIDEMIC. WE ALL
KNOW THAT OUR ABILITY TO FACE IT
HAS BEEN HAMPERED SIGNIFICANTLY.
I WOULD LIKE TO TELL YOU,
HOWEVER, HOW WE WANT TO ADDRESS
THE ISSUE. PROSECUTORS ACROSS
THE COUNTRY. WE'RE ALL FACING
THE SAME PROBLEM UNLESS THERE
ARE IDENTIFYING NUMBERS ON THE
CATALYTIC CONVERTERS, IT'S
ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO
SUCCESSFULLY PROSECUTE CATALYTIC
CONVERTER THEFT. EVERYONE HERE
KNOWS THAT YOUR CAR HAS BEEN
NUMBER. IT'S THAT IDENTIFYING
NUMBER ON THE DASH. BUT YOU
MIGHT NOT KNOW IS THAT IN
ADDITION TO IT BEING ON THE DASH
, IT'S ALL OVER THE INSIDE OF
YOUR CAR. IT'S AN ANTI THEFT
DEVICE. EVERY SINGLE MAJOR
COMPONENT OF YOUR CAR. HAS THE
VIN STAMPED ON IT ALL EXCEPT
ONE. AND THAT ONE IS THE
CATALYTIC CONVERTER. UM THE
REASON THAT CATALYTIC CONVERTER
THEFT HAS EXPLODED IS BECAUSE
THIS CRIME PAYS A LOT OF MONEY,
AND THERE'S VIRTUALLY NO RISK TO
DOING IT UNLESS THE THIEVES ARE
ACTUALLY CAUGHT IN THE ACT. THE
POLICE REALLY CAN'T DO ANYTHING.
WE CAN'T PROVE THAT THE
CATALYTIC CONVERTERS ARE STOLEN
. THEY ALL LOOK THE SAME IF THEY
HAVE NO NUMBER THESE PARTS OF
THEN SOLD FOR CASH, OF COURSE,
SOMETIMES THROUGH MIDDLEMEN THAT
OFTEN TO METAL RECYCLERS. WE
CAN'T HOLD THE RECYCLERS
RESPONSIBLE. THEY'LL HAVE 400
CATALYTIC CONVERTERS THERE AND
WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING BECAUSE WE
CAN'T PROVE THAT ANY OF THEM ARE
STOLEN WITHOUT A NUMBER. THIS
BILL ADDRESSES BOTH OF THE
ISSUES, THE THEFT AND THE
RECYCLING AND SHOULD HAVE
IMMEDIATE IMPACT. IF THIS BILL
SHOULD GO INTO EFFECT IF THESE
ARE CAUGHT WITH EVEN SOME
CATALYTIC CONVERTERS THAT HAVE
THE NUMBER WE CAN PROVE THAT
THEY'RE STOLEN. AND WE CAN HOLD
THEM RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT
THEY'VE DONE. ALSO ONCE
CATALYTIC CONVERTERS CAN BE
IDENTIFIED THE WIDESPREAD MARKET
FOR THE STOLEN PROPERTY SHOULD
COLLAPSE. CATALYTIC CONVERTER
THEFT, LIKE ALL KINDS OF THEFT
IS NEVER GOING TO COMPLETELY GO
AWAY. BUT THIS BILL IS GOING TO
DRAMATICALLY REDUCE THE PROBLEM
. OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT COLLEAGUES
ACROSS THE COUNTRY WERE ALL
CONSIDERING THE SAME APPROACH
AND WE URGE YOU TO DO THE SAME.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M
HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. OTHERWISE
THEY JUST ASK FOR YOUR I VOTE ON
THIS BILL. THANK YOU. OKAY. NEXT
WITNESS, MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS
OF THE COMMITTEE TIM CHANG FOR
THE AUTO CLUB OF SOUTHERN
CALIFORNIA. AH I BELIEVE MY
COLLEAGUES. TESTIMONY WAS VERY
THOROUGH, SO I WILL GREATLY
TRUNCATE MY TESTIMONY. CATALYTIC
CONVERTER THEFT TEST SWORD OVER
THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. WE'RE
SEEING THEFT RATES GOING FORWARD
AND FIVE TIMES WHAT THEY WERE IN
2019. UM. ALONG WITH THE
INCONVENIENCE OF HAVING YOUR
CATALYTIC CONVERTER, STOLEN THE
AVAILABILITY AND AFFORDABILITY
OF NEW CATALYTIC CONVERTERS IS
BECOMING VERY CHALLENGING, WHICH
IS LEADING TO INCREASED COSTS.
FOR THE REPAIR AND LONGER
TIMEFRAMES FOR REPAIRS TO BE
COMPLETED. WE BELIEVE SP 9 86 IS
DEFINITELY A STEP IN THE RIGHT
DIRECTION, AND WE URGE HER I
VOTE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I DO
NOT HAVE ANY WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION REGISTERED IF I'M
WRONG ABOUT THIS, THAT WAS
THERE, SOMEBODY REGISTERED IN
OPPOSITION. WHY DON'T YOU GUYS
COME UP TO THE TABLE? SORRY. I
DON'T HAVE THE FULL LIST HERE.
GO TOO FAR. YEAH OKAY, SO YOU
HAVE TWO MINUTES APIECE. GOOD
AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS,
ANTHONY SAMPSON HERE ON BEHALF
OF THE CALIFORNIA NEW CAR
DEALERS ASSOCIATION. WE'RE
CERTAINLY NOT HERE TO OBJECT TO
THE FUNDAMENTAL INTENT OF THE
BILL. WE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS
A SIGNIFICANT ISSUE THROUGHOUT
THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA
THROUGHOUT THE NATION AND IN
FACT, CALIFORNIA NEW CAR DEALERS
ARE NO EXCEPTION TO THAT. THEY
HAVE BEEN VICTIMS OF THIS THEFT
ON THEIR OWN LOTS. AND SO WE
UNDERSTAND THE NEED. UM AND WE
APPRECIATE IT. WE HAVE COME TO
THE TABLE VERY, VERY EARLY ON.
REASONABLE MINDS CAN DISAGREE.
WHO MAY OR MAY NOT NEED TO BE
RESPONSIBLE FOR PURPOSES OF
PERMANENTLY MARKING THE
CATALYTIC CONVERTER. NONETHELESS
WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE
WITH SENATOR UMBERG SPONSORS AND
OTHERS ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE
CALIFORNIA NEW CAR DEALERS ARE
WILLING TO DO THE WORK HERE.
THEY'RE WILLING TO DO IT. ON THE
VEHICLES THAT THEY SELL, BUT
THERE ARE SOME VERY IMPORTANT
COMPONENTS THAT NEED TO BE
INCLUDED IN THAT TO ENSURE THAT
COMPLIANCE IS REASONABLE AND TO
ENSURE THAT THE SIGNIFICANT, UM
, COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH DOING
THIS THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA AND ALL VEHICLES IS
ADDRESSED THE FIRST ISSUE. IS
THE FACT THAT A LOT OF THESE
CATEGORIES CATALYTIC CONVERTERS
AS THE COMMITTEE ANALYSIS POINTS
OUT. ARE VERY HARD TO REACH AND
ARE LOCATED IN THE EXHAUST
MANIFOLD FOR, FOR EXAMPLE, UM,
IT WOULD TAKE AN EXTRAORDINARY
AMOUNT OF WORK TO BE TO
BASICALLY TAKE THE ENGINE APART.
AND THEN PERMANENTLY MARKED THE
VIN IN THE CATALYTIC CONVERTER.
PUT IT BACK AGAIN. WE ASSUME
THAT MOST THIEVES ARE NOT
LOOKING TO MAKE IT THAT
INCONVENIENT FOR THEMSELVES,
EITHER. AND SO IT MAKES SENSE TO
SOMEHOW ESTABLISH SOME TYPE OF
STANDARD. TO ENSURE WE ARE
KEEPING THIS LIMITED TO THOSE
CATALYTIC CONVERTERS THAT ARE
EASY TO REACH. WE'VE HAD AGAIN
DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THIS CONCEPT
WITH THE SPONSORS, THE AUTHORS
OFFICE. WE'RE HOPEFUL WE CAN GET
THERE ON THAT. THE SECOND
COMPONENT IS AGAIN THE CONSUMER
CHARGE AS IT CURRENTLY IS
DRAFTED. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 3.5
MILLION VEHICLES A YEAR. WE NEED
TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT GIVEN THIS
IS GOING TO BE A PUBLIC BENEFIT
OF PUBLIC SAFETY BENEFIT AND A
CONSUMER BENEFIT ALL AT ONCE.
THE CALIFORNIA NEW CAR DEALERS
WHO ARE WILLING TO DO THIS WORK
HAVE THE ABILITY TO CHARGE FOR
THAT WORK THAT'S BEING PERFORMED
. IF WE CAN GET THOSE TWO
CONCEPTS ADDRESSED, WE WILL
REMOVE OPPOSITION FROM THE BILL.
AND WE LOOK AT THIS THEN AS ONE
SIGNIFICANT STEP FORWARD,
ALTHOUGH NOT THE SILVER BULLET
TO ADDRESSING THIS ISSUE, THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT WITNESS,
PLEASE. MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS OF
THE COMMITTEE, JOHN MOFFITT ON
BEHALF OF THE ALLIANCE FOR
AUTOMOTIVE INNOVATION. WE HAVE
AN OPPOSING LESS AMENDED
POSITION AS WELL. AS THE
COMMITTEE ANALYSIS POINTS OUT. I
THINK WE AND OUR DEALER PARTNERS
ARE ALIGNED ON A NUMBER OF
ISSUES WITH RESPECT TO NARROWING
THE BILL AND THE APPLICATION OF
THE MANDATE IN THE BILL. UM WE
WOULD ALSO SUGGEST BASED ON SOME
NEW INFORMATION WE'VE LEARNED
FROM OUR MANUFACTURERS. YOU
KNOW, THERE'S A NUMBER OF
MANUFACTURERS WHO, ACTUALLY
INDIVIDUALLY SERIALIZED. THEIR
CATALYTIC CONVERTERS. AND SO WE
THINK THAT'S ANOTHER POTENTIAL
SOLUTION THAT WE'VE TALKED TO
THE SPONSORS TALKED TO THE
AUTHORS AND OTHERS ABOUT AND ARE
CURRENTLY EXPLORING THAT IF YOU
CAN ATTACH THE SERIAL NUMBER ON
THAT CATALYTIC CONVERTER TO THE
VIN NUMBER IN THE D M V
DATABASE. THAT'S BETTER FOR
EVERYONE, LESS LESS WORK TO BE
DONE LESS COST TO THE CONSUMER,
A TECHNOLOGICAL SOLUTION THAT WE
THINK COULD WORK WELL AGAIN,
RECOGNIZING NOT ALL
MANUFACTURERS ARE DOING THAT,
AND SO WE UNDERSTAND THE MANDATE
AS THE BACKSTOP, BUT AGAIN LOOK
FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO EXPLORE
THESE CONCEPTS. UM AS WE AS WE
START REACHING TOWARDS THE END
OF END OF SESSION HERE THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. I WILL ASK ANYBODY IN
THE COMMITTEE ROOM WHO WANTS TO
TESTIFY FOR OR AGAINST THE BILL
TO PLEASE COME TO THE
MICROPHONE. GO RIGHT AHEAD. GOOD
AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS ANGIE MINETTI HERE ON
BEHALF OF MEANTIME, AUCTIONS IN
OPPOSING LESSON MENDED. WE DO
LOTS OF WHOLESALE OF NEW USED
VEHICLES, AND WE DON'T THINK
THAT ARE WHOLESALE MARKETPLACE
IS THE APPROPRIATE PLACE TO DO
THE NOTCHING. THANK YOU. MADAM
CHAIR MEMBERS DAY INFLOWS OTTAWA
ON BEHALF OF THE CRIME VICTIMS,
ALLIANCE AND SUPPORT THANK YOU
SEEING NOBODY ELSE IN THE ROOM
WISHING TO TESTIFY. OPERATOR
COULD YOU PLEASE OPEN UP THE
PHONE LINES FOR SB 9 86. THOSE
WHO WISH TO SPEAK AND SUPPORT
HER OPPOSITION TO SB 9 86,
PLEASE PRESS ONE THAN ZERO.
WE'LL GO TO LINE 22. THANK YOU
KIM STONE STONE ADVOCACY ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
DISTRICT ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION
IN SUPPORT. LINE 19. NATASHA
MINSTER ON BEHALF OF THE
PROSECUTOR'S ALLIANCE OF
CALIFORNIA AND SUPPORT. IN JUST
A MOMENT FOR OUR NEXT COMMENTER.
WE'RE GONNA GO TO LINE 28. MADAM
CHAIR MEMBERS. BRANDON APP ON
BEHALF OF THE LOS ANGELES COUNTY
SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. ALSO IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. AND ON CALL
FOR ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO SB 9
86. AND THERE IS NO ONE ELSE TO
SIGNAL THAT THEY WISH TO SPEAK.
THANK YOU. WE DO HAVE REQUESTS
FROM SEVERAL COMMITTEE MEMBERS
TO MAKE COMMENTS OR ASK
QUESTIONS, MR O'DONNELL. SUCKING
CHAIR. I APOLOGIZE. WE DO HAVE
ONE MORE PERSON WHO JUST OKAY.
THANK YOU. OPERATOR. THANK YOU.
JUST A MOMENT. THANK YOU. AND
WE'RE GOING TO NOW G TO LINE
EIGHT. KAREN RYE, WITH THE
NATIONAL AUTO AUCTION
ASSOCIATION, ALSO IN OPPOSITION.
THERE WAS NO ONE ELSE. THANK
YOU, OPERATOR. OKAY MR
O'DONNELL. THANK YOU, MADAM
CHAIR. I JUST FIRST I'D LIKE TO
THAT THE PRESENCE OF THE IDEAS
OFFICE, I THINK IS A GOOD
MOMENT. HAVE YOU WEIGH IN ON
BILL LIKE THIS? AND I HOPE YOUR
WAY IN ANOTHER BILLS THIS YEAR,
TOO. TO HELP STOP CRIME CROSS
COUNTY OF LOS ANGELES, BUT BUT
AGAIN TO THE BILL, LISTEN OF THE
TRACEABLE METHOD OF PAYMENT.
THAT'S VERY GOOD. BUT AGAIN, AS
HAS BEEN NOTED, UH, THIS IS A
REAL PROBLEM IN CALIFORNIA. I'M
HEARING ABOUT IT. UM BUT WHEN
WE'RE GOING TO REQUIRE A
MECHANIC TO DIG INTO A CAR TO
GET A CATALOG CONVERTED, WHAT
PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND IS
THEY'RE NOT IN THE SAME PLACE
AND EVERY VEHICLE. IT COULD TAKE
FIVE MINUTES ON ONE VEHICLE. IT
COULD TAKE FIVE HOURS ON ANOTHER
VEHICLE TO GET TO THAT
CONVERTER. THUS THE CONCERNS
ABOUT COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH, UH,
PUTTING ON. BEING EVENT OR
WHATEVER SOME TYPE OF
IDENTIFICATION NUMBER ON EACH ON
EACH CADILLAC CONVERT A LONG
TERM AND I HOPE MEMBERS NEXT
YEAR I WON'T BE HERE. BUT
CONSIDER LOOKING AT THIS. THE
WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT THIS
HAPPENED TO ME. I HAVE IT. HONDA
PILOT NEEDED A NEW CATALYTIC
CONVERTER. WELL, NOW I'M
IMPACTED BY THE THEFT TO EVEN
THOUGH MINE WASN'T STOLEN. CAUSE
I CAN'T GO OUT AND GET ONE
UNLESS YOU GET AN O E M ORIGINAL
MANUFACTURER, RIGHT? AND THOSE
REALLY AREN'T AVAILABLE. I FOUND
ONE IN L A. THERE WAS ONE IT WAS
$3000. RIGHT BIG MONEY. SO
REALLY, WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO
FROM MY PERSPECTIVE IS YES. DO A
NUMBER OF THINGS IN THE LAW. TO
TRACK DOWN WHERE THESE WHERE THE
STONE CATALYTIC CONVERTERS GO
AND TO PREVENT THEM, BUT ALSO TO
ALLOW FOLKS TO BUY NANO AM
CONVERSE. SO THAT WILL DROP THE
PRICE OF THEM. SO JUST SOME SOME
THOUGHTS TO SHARE WITH YOU AND
APPRECIATE YOU PRESENTING THE
BILL FOR THE GOOD SENATOR TODAY.
LET ME GO FIRST TO VICE CHAIR
PH. I KNOW THE AUTHOR IS NOT
HERE. BUT IF I COULD ASK THOSE
WHO TESTIFIED IN OPPOSITION, UM
WHERE? WHERE DOES THE AMENDMENT
STAND? I DO BELIEVE THEY ARE
FAIR AMENDMENTS, ESPECIALLY WHEN
CALEB CONVERTER IS NOT EASILY
ACCESSIBLE. IS THERE? WHAT'S THE
WHAT IS THE CURRENT STATUS? THE
CONVERSATIONS WITH THE AUTHOR'S
OFFICE. BOTH. I MEAN THE
SUPPORTERS AND THE OPPONENTS. OH
THANKS. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?
OKAY, PERFECT. ESSENTIALLY
THERE'S TWO MAIN AMENDMENTS THAT
THEY'RE LOOKING AT ONE IS, UH,
THE CHARGING OF SOME SPECIFIC
FEE. UM, WE DON'T HAVE ANY
PROBLEM WITH THAT. AND WHEN I
SAY WE I DON'T NECESSARILY SPEAK
FOR THE SENATOR. I JUST I'M
TALKING AS A DEPUTY DISTRICT
ATTORNEY. THE FEE I PART IS FINE
. THE SECOND PART IS THE
DIFFICULT TO ACCESS ISSUE. AND
THAT'S A LITTLE MORE
COMPLICATED. UM WE THINK THAT OR
AT LEAST WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS
IN SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT WAYS, AND
I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK ON BEHALF
OF THESE OTHER FOLKS. BUT FOR
FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, THE
DIFFICULT TO ACCESS CATALYTIC
CONVERTERS. A VERY SMALL
PERCENTAGE IS UNDER 2% ALSO,
JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE DIFFICULT
TO ACCESS DOESN'T MEAN THEY'RE
HARD TO STEAL. WE HAVE PEOPLE
WHO HAVE THESE KINDS OF CARS,
AND THE THIEVES ARE LITERALLY
HACKING A HOLE THROUGH THEIR
ENGINES TO GET AT THEIR CATS,
WHICH IS JUST CRAZY. IF YOU
THINK IT'S EXPENSIVE, TOO.
REPLACE YOUR CAT. JUST IMAGINE
REPLACING CAT AFTER YOU HAVE A
HOLE CUT IN YOUR ENGINE. AWFUL
UM, ALSO, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT
DIFFERENT WAYS TO MARK AND I
KNOW THAT WE WERE OPEN. TO WHAT
CHANGED THAT BECAUSE INITIALLY
IT WAS JUST ENGRAVING AND IT'S
HARD TO ENGRAVE SOMETHING THAT'S
INSIDE THE ENGINE COMPARTMENT OR
IN THE MANIFOLD, BUT THAT
DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT
IT'S DIFFICULT TO MARK AND I
DON'T CARE HOW YOU MARKET
BECAUSE FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, SO
LONG AS I CAN PROVE IT STOLEN,
WE'RE GOOD TO GO. SO WE'RE
WORKING ON THAT ISSUE. THANK YOU
. IF YOU WANTED TO KNOW WHY I
APPRECIATE THIS SPONSORS
RESPONSE. UM YES. SO THE CONCERN
WAS THE TERM ETCHING. WE WANTED
TO PROVIDE SOME FLEXIBILITY TO
REPLACE IT WITH THE WORD
PERMANENTLY MARKED. WE
APPRECIATE THE AUTHOR AND
SPONSORS WILLINGNESS TO ACCEPT
THAT I APPRECIATE THE SPONSORS
COMMENTS ABOUT THE PASSING ALONG
THE CONSUMER CHARGE. THAT'S
SOMETHING THAT WE'VE TALKED TO
THE SENATOR ABOUT AS WELL AND
WE'RE HOPEFUL WE'LL BE ABLE TO
REACH A RESOLUTION AND NO DOUBT
THE MOST CHALLENGING ISSUE I
HEARD THE 2% I DON'T KNOW. I'M
NOT AWARE OF A STANDARD THAT
MAKES SOMETHING CONSIDERED TO BE
DIFFICULT TO REACH AND HARD AND
SO I'VE NEVER HEARD THAT 2%
NUMBER OF WHAT WE KNOW. AND
SPEAKING WITH OUR DEALERSHIP
MEMBERS IS THAT AGAIN. MANY OF
THEM ARE LOCATED WITHIN THE
EXHAUST MANIFOLD AND
EXTRAORDINARY HARD TO REACH. ONE
CONCEPT WE HAVE PROPOSED THAT
HAS BEEN REJECTED BY THE
SPONSORS IS THE IDEA OF CREATING
A STATE DATE A DATABASE. THERE'S
EXISTING INFORMATION ABOUT THE
MOST HIGHLY TARGETED VEHICLES.
IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. IS
THAT PERTAINS TO CATALYTIC
CONVERTER FAST AND THAT WAY FROM
A COMPLIANCE STANDPOINT, THE
DEALERS CAN SIMPLY LOOK AT THAT
LIST AND SAY THESE ARE THE
VEHICLES WERE AND WE NEED TO UM
REPLACING WE WERE WE NEED TO
PERMANENTLY MARKED THE CATALYTIC
CONVERTER AGAIN. UH THAT WAS
REJECTED, AND SO THE IDEA OF
CREATING A VISIBILITY AND STAN
STANDARD IN LAW OR SOME TYPE OF
EASY TO REACH VERSUS HARD TO
REACH STANDARD. YOU KNOW
SOMETHING WE CAN WORK TO DO, BUT
TO CREATE A BRIGHT LINE AS AN
EXTRAORDINARILY CHALLENGINGAND
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE
WORKING ON AGAIN WITH THE AUTHOR
AND THE SPONSORS. I CERTAINLY,
UH APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION.
CERTAINLY COMPLIANCE IS THE
CRITICAL PART OF MAKING SURE
THIS THAT THIS WORKS, SO I
CERTAINLY WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO
CONTINUE THOSE CONVERSATIONS. I
UNDERSTAND THAT THE TIMELINE WAS
LITTLE QUICK AND THIS COMMITTEE
SO I THINK THERE'S PROBABLY
GOING TO BE A CONTINUED
CONVERSATIONS. I CERTAINLY WOULD
SUPPORT THIS BILL MOVING
FORWARD, BUT CERTAINLY ENCOURAGE
UM UH, THOSE THOSE THOSE MAJOR
ISSUES TO BE RESOLVED. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MR GIBSON.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WANT TO
THANK MR BERMAN FOR BRINGING AND
SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE GREAT
SENATOR FOR BRINGING THIS BILL
FOR? I THINK THIS IS FROM FROM
MY POINT OF VIEW, IT'S A, UM,
IT'S RIGHT INTO STEP TWO. IS
THERE GREAT STEP IN THE RIGHT
DIRECTION BECAUSE I REPRESENTED
COMMUNITY. I'M SURE THIS IS
INDICATIVE. WHAT'S HAPPENING ALL
ACROSS CALIFORNIA WITH ITS
CATALYTIC CONVERTERS? UM WHETHER
YOU ARE, YOU KNOW, UNEMPLOYED,
TRY AND GET YOUR HUSTLE ON AND
YOU HAVE A TRUCK. AND IT'S
PARKED IN FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE
WE'VE SEEN ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND
THE BRAZEN UM THE AUDACITY.
INDIVIDUALS HAVE TO GO IN THERE
AND IT'S QUICK. IT'S CUT BAM!
AND THEY'RE GONE. AND THEN AS,
UH, THE GENTLEMAN FROM, UH FROM
LONG BEATS INDICATED $3000.
WHETHER IT'S STOLEN FROM YOU, OR
YOU NEED TO GET A NEW ONE IS
VERY, VERY EXPENSIVE. I WOULD
LOVE TO SEE YOU KNOW, UM, SOME
STRICTER LAWS TO ACT AS A
DETERRENT, SO THESE INDIVIDUALS
WON'T DO THIS BECAUSE IT'S
HURTING, UM, LOGGED ONLY LAW
ABIDING CITIZENS BUT ALSO
HURTING PEOPLE WHO IS TRYING TO
MAKE A LIVING. SO MY QUESTION
FOR THE OPPOSITION IF YOU WOULD
PLEASE COME FORWARD. BECAUSE I
NEED TO UNDERSTAND IN TERMS OF
WHAT WOULD IT COST FOR? YOU
TALKED ABOUT EVENTS STAMP OF VIN
NUMBER, THE SAME VIN NUMBER
BEING ATTACHED TO THE CATALYTIC
CONVERTER. UM, AND THAT PROCESS
AND LIKE HE HAS TO GO THROUGH
THE DMV. SO WHAT DOES THAT LOOK
LIKE? IN TERMS OF COST? THAT'S
MY FIRST QUESTION. MY SEOND
QUESTION IS, WHAT WILL IT COST
FOR SOMEONE TO ACTUALLY FIND THE
CATALYTIC CONVERTER IN THE
VEHICLE AND HAVE YOUR DEALER
STAMP BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA PASS
THAT COST ON ANYWAY TO THE
CONSUMERS, SO IF YOU CAN ADDRESS
THOSE, I'M SURE I MAY HAVE ABOUT
10. MORE QUESTIONS TO ASK YOU.
I'M JUST KIDDING. THANK YOU, MR
GIBSON. IT'S A GOOD QUESTION. I
DON'T HAVE A DIRECT ANSWER FOR
YOU TODAY IN TERMS OF COSTS
BECAUSE IT'S REALLY DEPENDENT
DEPENDENT ON THE LOCATION WHERE
THE CATALYTIC CONVERTERS LOCATED
ONCE YOU HAVE THE CATALYTIC
CONVERTER. AND YOU HAVE ACCESS
TO IT DOING THE PERMANENT
MARKING IS NOT AS SIGNIFICANT
UNDERTAKING, BUT IT'S THE ACCESS
. THERE'S LABOR COSTS AND LABOR
RATES ASSOCIATED WITH IT. YOU
KNOW, THE QUESTION IS, DO YOU
HAVE TO LIFT THE VEHICLE UP IN
SOMEBODY HAS TO GET UNDER? CAN
SOMEBODY JUST GO RIGHT UNDER?
GET SO I WISH I COULD HAVE AN
ANSWER FOR YOU. AND IT'S
CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE CAN DIG
INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE. BUT I
I'M UNABLE TODAY TO GIVE YOU A
PRECISE FIGURE IN TERMS OF HOW
MUCH IT WOULD COST AS MUCH AS
I'D LOVE TO SAY IT'S CONSISTENT
ACROSS THE BOARD AND EVERY
VEHICLE WOULD BE THE SAME. AND
YOU KNOW THERE IS CERTAINTY
THERE. IT'S DEPENDENT ON A WHOLE
DIFFERENT VARIETY OF FACTORS,
INCLUDING THE LOCATION OF THE
CATALYTIC CONVERTER AND THEN
LABOR RATES ASSOCIATED WITH THE
LABOR COST TO ACTUALLY GET TO
IT, RIGHT. I APPRECIATE THAT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU ALSO
SUGGESTED, UH, POSSIBLE SOLUTION
BY USING THE VIN NUMBER AND
ASSOCIATED WITH EVENT NUMBER
TWO. WHAT WULD THAT SIMILARLY
BE AS RELATES TO A COST BECAUSE
I KNOW YOU MADE MENTION OF DMV.
THAT YOUR QUESTION MAY HAVE
REFERRED TO THE COMMENT THAT MY
FRIENDS AT THE AT THE
MANUFACTURER'S RAISED REGARDING
THE SERIAL NUMBER IS THAT RIGHT?
I WILL LET THANK YOU TO TAKE
THAT. ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S JOHN
MOFFITT FROM THE ALLIANCE FOR
AUTOMOTIVE INNOVATION. WHEN WE
SEND A NEW VEHICLE TO THE
DEALERS, ALL THE INFORMATION
ABOUT THE VEHICLE GETS VIA
DIFFERENT DATABASES AND PROGRAMS
GETS CONVEYED TO THAT DEALER.
THEY PUT IT IN THEIR DEALER
MANAGEMENT, THEIR INVENTORY
SYSTEMS. IT'S FROM THAT
INFORMATION THAT NONE OF US HAVE
TO GO TO THE DMV ANYMORE TO
REGISTER OUR VEHICLE WHEN WE GO
AND BUY A NEW OR USED VEHICLE,
UH D M V WITH FIRST LINE SERVICE
PROVIDERS. AND DEALERS WITHIN
THE STATE. SO ALL THAT THAT
INFORMATION WHEN YOU BUY THAT
VEHICLE GETS SENT TO THE DMV
REGISTRATION, YOUR NAME YOUR
ADDRESS THE VIN NUMBER. ALL OF
THAT GOES INTO THE DMV DATABASE.
WELL, WE'RE SUGGESTING IS THAT
IT'S A LOT BETTER FOR THE
CONSUMER. IF AT THE END OF THE
DAY IF WE HAVE A CATALYTIC
CONVERTER THAT IS ALREADY
INDIVIDUALLY SERIALIZED. AND
WHEN THAT REPORT IS SENT TO THE
DMV WITH THE CONSUMERS NAME,
THEIR ADDRESS AND THE VEHICLE
IDENTIFICATION NUMBER IF WE CAN
ATTACH THAT SERIAL NUMBER TO
THAT VEHICLE IDENTIFICATION
NUMBER NOW, ALL OF THAT'S IN THE
DMV DATABASE THAT LAW
ENFORCEMENT CAN ACCESS. IF
THEY'RE OUT THERE, THEY FIND A
CATALYTIC CONVERTER. THEY CAN
RUN THAT SERIAL NUMBER. IT
SHOULD BE CONNECTED TO A VEHICLE
IDENTIFICATION NUMBER IN THE
DATABASE. AND IT'S A COMPUTER
PROGRAM. IT DOESN'T REQUIRE THE
DEALERS OR ANYONE ELSE TO CLIMB
UNDER THE VEHICLE. TAKE IT APART
AT MARKET CETERA, ET CETERA.
THAT'S THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING
. THIS IS TO THE DISTRICT
ATTORNEY FROM LOS ANGELES. GOOD
TO SEE YOU HERE, UM, THAT YOU
GUYS CAN GO TO, OR LAW
ENFORCEMENT. GO TO US CHOP SHOP
AND SEE ALL OF THESE CATALYTIC
CONVERTERS, BUT YOU CAN'T PROVE
THAT THEY IN FACT HAVE BEEN
STOLEN IS AM I UNDERSTANDING
SPOT ON THAT'S EXACTLY OUR
PROBLEM RIGHT AND THE PURPOSE OF
THIS BILL IS TO IDENTIFY. UM IF
IN FACT YOU GO TO ONE OF THESE
SHOPS TO IDENTIFY WITH THE
SERIAL NUMBER TO PROVE IN COURT
THAT THEY EITHER THE UM THE
STORE OWNER OF THE SHOP OWNER IS
RESPONSIBLE BECAUSE NOW HE OR
SHE IS ACCEPTING STOLEN.
MERCHANDISE INDEED, WE WENT TO
ONE WHERE WE HAD 400 CATS. WE
COULDN'T PROVE A SINGLE ONE WAS
STOLEN AND TO THE CATS HAVE THIS
THING CALLED AN 02 SENSOR, WHICH
MOST OF THESE PEOPLE JUST BREAK
OFF. AND THERE WERE 3500 02
SENSORS THERE, SO I KNOW THAT
WITHIN THE TIME THAT THEY SINCE
THEY CLEANED OUT THE SHOP
PROCESS 3500 CATS. THIS IS UP IN
THE VALLEY IN L. A AND WE
COULDN'T DO ANYTHING. WELL.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, UM I THINK
IT'S THE EPIDEMIC THAT'S TAKING
THE SWEEPING CALIFORNIA WE NEED
TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT ABOUT DO
BELIEVE WE NEED SOME TEETH WHEN
IT COMES DOWN TO THOSE WHO ARE
WHO ARE CAUSING THE MAYHEM. UM
ON INNOCENT BYSTANDERS. SO THANK
YOU VERY MUCH, MR BERMAN. AND
UM, I'LL BE VOTING AYE. ANYONE
ELSE IN THE COMMITTEE? IN ITS
WELCOME. THANK YOU. UM OBVIOUSLY
, I CAN TELL THAT ALL MY
COLLEAGUES WERE IN THE SAME PAGE
HERE. AND I THINK THERE WAS
SOMETHING LIKE 18,000 OF THESE.
UM UH, STOLEN LAST YEAR AND THE
PENALTY BECAUSE IT'S MORE THAN
$950. IS A FELON. BUT THE
PROBLEM IS AGAIN WE CAN'T CATCH
THEM. SO OBVIOUSLY I THINK THIS
IS A WAY TO START. BUT I REALLY
HOPE THAT YOU GUYS CONTINUE TO
SPEAK WITH THE NEW DEALERS.
BECAUSE THERE'S HOPEFULLY A
BETTER PROCESS THAT PERHAPS
WOULD BE LESS EXPENSIVE BECAUSE
AGAIN WE KNOW THIS WILL FILTER
DOWN TO THE CUSTOMER, SO I'LL
SUPPORT THIS. BUT PLEASE, LET'S
CONTINUE WORKING WITH NEW
DEALERS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
ANYONE ELSE? SO AS YOU CAN TELL
A LOT OF INTEREST IN THIS BILL.
BIG PROBLEM IN THE STATE, AND I
THINK YOU'RE HEARING FROM ALL
THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS WHAT
YOU'RE PROBABLY HERE IN PUBLIC
SAFETY AND ALSO ON THE FLOOR OF
THE LEGISLATURE, WHICH IS A
DESIRE TO SEE THE DIFFERENT
STAKEHOLDERS COME TOGETHER AND
FIND A SOLUTION THAT WORKS FOR
EVERYBODY. STILL I THINK SOME
ENSURE THIS ABOUT THE POTENTIAL
THE SUGGESTED AMENDMENTS FROM
THE NEW CAR DEALERS. UM, WHO
SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS
MANUFACTURERS? THE CAR DEALERS
SHOULD IT BE ALL THE VEHICLES OR
NOT? I HOPE THAT ALL OF THE
STAKEHOLDERS CONTINUE TO DISCUSS
THAT SO THAT WE DO THIS IN A WAY
THAT WORKS FOR EVERYONE. BUT
ALSO THAT DOESN'T SHIFT THE
FINANCIAL BURDEN TOO MUCH ON ANY
ONE SECTOR UNNECESSARILY. WITH
THAT I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE
BILL, AND I THINK WE HAD
MULTIPLE MOTIONS AND SECONDS.
YES. COMMITTEE SECRETARY. DO WE
HAVE MOTION IN A SECOND ALREADY
RECORDED NO, OKAY. WE HAVE A
MOTION AND A SECOND. CAN WE HAVE
A ROLL? CALL, PLEASE. AND THANK
YOU, MR BERMAN. I JUST WANT TO
CLOSE TO KNOW WHY MY COLLEAGUE
FROM SAN JOSE GOT THE QUICK
BILLS. UM BUT, YEAH, HE WAS
SMART. HE DID HIS HOMEWORK IN
NEW WHETHER IT BE TALKING, I
GUESS. UH SO CAN WE HAVE A REAL
CALL, PLEASE? SB 9 86 DO PASS TO
PUBLIC SAFETY FRIEDMAN FRIEDMAN.
I PHÊN MONNING. AYE, BERMAN.
BERMAN. I CUNNINGHAM. SENDING
HIM I DAVIES. DAVIES. I GIBSON
GIBSON. I KALRA HOWEVER, I LI
REALLY? I MEDINA. MEDINA, NOT
VOTING. NAZARIAN. NAZARIAN. I
WIN. NGUYEN. I, O DONNELL.
O'DONNELL WARD WARD, I WICKS.
WEEKS. I. 13 0 13 0. THAT BILL
IS OUT. UH CAN WE PLEASE GO TO
THE TOP OF THE CALENDAR AND GO
DOWN AND LET'S TAKE ROLE IN ALL
OF THE BILLS, OKAY. FILE ITEM.
THREE SB 12. 33 FRIEDMAN
FRIEDMAN. I FONG. DO WE HAVE A
MOTION ON THIS BILL? LET'S MAKE
SURE WE HAVE. THAT'S RIGHT. WE
DID. OKAY. WE ALREADY HAD A
MOTION AND A SECOND. JUST LET US
KNOW WHICH BILLS STILL NEED
MOTIONS AND SECONDS WHEN YOU
COME TO THEM, OKAY. I'M SORRY.
YOU CAN CONTINUE ITEM THREE. SP
12 33 FRIEDMAN FRIEDMAN. I PHÊN
MONNING. AYE, BERMAN. FURMAN
CUNNINGHAM. CUNNINGHAM. I
DAVIES. TV'S I GIBSON GIBSON I
CHOLERA COBRA. I LI. FULLY
MEDINA MEDINA. I NAZARIAN.
NAZARIAN I WHEN NGUYEN. I, O
DONNELL. O'DONNELL I WARD WARD I
WIX WIX. AYE. 14 0. A 14 0. THAT
BILL IS OUT. AH FILE ITEM FOR SP
13 82 YEAH, WE HAVE A MOTION IN
A SECOND SO YOU CAN TAKE A ROLE.
FRIEDMAN FRIEDMAN I PHONE
MONNING. AYE, BERMAN. BERMAN. I
CUNNINGHAM. CUNNINGHAM. I
DAVIES. DAVIES. I GIBSON GIBSON.
I KALRA COBRA. I LI LEE I
MEDINA. MEDINA. I NAZARIAN.
MISERY IN I WIN. WHEN NOT
VOTING. O'DONNELL. O'DONNELL I
AWARD WARD. I WICKS. WEEKS. I 13
0 13 0. THAT BILL IS.
HIGHLIGHTING FIVE SP 13 98. ONE
LEADER MOTION. YEAH, I'M SORRY.
ANYONE WHO HAS VOTE IS 80
CUNNINGHAM. FENDING HIM. I
NAZARIAN. NAZARIAN I WHEN. WHEN
NOT VOTING. O DONNELL.
O'DONNELL? AYE. WARD WARD. I
WICKS. WEEKS. I. 13 0 FINAL VOTE
. OKAY. 13 0 THAT BUILDS OUT THE
NEXT TWO. I BELIEVE WE DID
MOTIONS ON 13 12 30. I HAVE I
THINK WEEKS MOTION AND THEN CALL
ROSE SECOND. FOR 12 30. THAT'S
WHAT I HAVE DOWN. OKAY LET'S
TAKE ROLL. OKAY FILE ITEM.
SEVEN. SP 12 30 FRIEDMAN. AYE,
FRIEDMAN. I PH PHÊN NOT
VOTING. BERMAN. BERMAN. I
CUNNINGHAM. CUNNINGHAM. I
DAVIES. QUICK QUESTION WHERE
THOSE AMENDMENTS MADE. ABOUT 30.
THE MOON. NO, THERE WERE NO
AMENDMENTS, NOT BILL. THIS IS
THE ONE LIMÓN VILLE. OKAY? AYE
DAVIES GIBSON. GIPSON. AYE,
KALRA. KALRA. I LI LEÓN MEDINA.
MEDINA. AYE. NAZARIAN. I'M
SORRY. COULD YOU READ THAT? COME
BACK, OKAY WHEN NOT VOTING.
O'DONNELL. O'DONNELL I, WARD
WARD I WICKS. WICKS. AYE. MHM.
CURRENT VOTE 11 0 11 0, THAT
BILL IS OUT. OKAY MISSOURIAN,
AND WE NEED A MOTION ON FOR 13
29. WE HAVE EMOTION. ON A SECOND
. OKAY UH, HIGHLIGHTED MADE SP
13 29 FRIEDMAN FRIEDMAN. I PHÊN
MONNING. AYE, BERMAN. HERMAN. I
CUNNINGHAM. SENDING HIM I DAVIES
DAVIES. I GIBSON GIBSON I
CHOLERA. KALRA. I LI LEÓN
MEDINA. MEDINA. I NAZARIAN.
NAZARIAN. I WIN. WHEN I O
DONNELL. O'DONNELL AWARD. FORD.
I WICKS. WEEKS. I. 14 0 FINAL
VOTE 14 0 THAT BUILDS OUT. FILE
ITEM. NINE. SB 10 79 CURRENT
VOTE 11 0 CUNNINGHAM. 11
CUNNINGHAM? AYE. NAZARIAN.
NAZARIAN I FINAL VOTE 13 0 13 0.
YOU'RE GOING TO CHANGE YOUR
VOTE, OKAY? TO A YES OKAY, WHEN?
WHEN FROM NOT VOTING TO. YES
FINAL VOTE 14 0 14 0 THAT BILL
IS OUT. FILE ITEM 11 SP 9 86
CURRENT VOTE 13 0 FINAL VOTE WAS
13 0. UH FILE ITEM 12 A. J. R
32. SEE HAIRED. AH FRIEDMAN.
OCCURRED VOTERS. WE DIDN'T VOTE
ON THAT ONE, SO TO BE ADOPTED.
A. J. R 32 TO BE ADOPTED. IF IT
I FRIEDMAN. I PHÊN PHÊN KNOW
BERMAN. BERMAN CUNNINGHAM.
pDAVIES, NOT VOTING. GIBSON.
GIBSON. I KALRA. CULEBRA. I LI
LEE I MEDINA. MEDINA. I MISERY
IN. YOUR BILL. MISERY IN I WHEN. NGUYEN TO NOT VOTING. OH,
DONALD O'DONNELL I AWARD WARD. I
WICKS. WEEKS. I 89 10. 10 1
FINAL VOTE. LET'S GO THROUGH THE
BILLS THAT STILL NEED VOTES FROM
ABSENT MEMBERS, INCLUDING
CALENDAR. YEAH WE DO NEED, UH,
ITEMS ON CONSENT. CURRENT VOTE
80 CUNNINGHAM. CUNNINGHAM. I
NAZARIAN. ITEMS ON CONSENT.
NAZARIAN. I WIN. WHEN I
O'DONNELL O'DONNELL? AYE. WARD
WARD. AYE, WICKS. WEEKS. I. 14 0
FINAL VOTE.
OKAY, ARE WE? IS THAT IT FOR THE
VOTES, OKAY. WITH THAT WE ARE
ADJOURNED.