GOOD MORNING. WELCOME TO
ASSEMBLY PUBLIC SAFETY
COMMITTEE. UM BEFORE WE BEGIN.
OUR LIKE TO READ OUR. OUR
STATEMENT. WE ENCOURAGE THE
PUBLIC TO PROVIDE WRITTEN
TESTIMONY BEFORE THE HEARING BY
VISITING COMMITTEE WEBSITE
COMMITTEE WEBSITE AT AH!
ASSEMBLY THAT. ÁP S S DOT
ASSEMBLY DOT CA.GOV PLEASE KNOW
THAT ANY WRITTEN TESTIMONY
SUBMITTED TO THE COMMITTEE IS
CONSIDERED PUBLIC COMMENT AND
MAYBE READ INTO THE RECORD OR
REPRINTED. ALL ARE ENCOURAGED TO
WATCH THE HEARING FROM ITS LIVE
STREAM ON THE ASSEMBLY'S WEBSITE
. W W DOT ASSEMBLY DOT C A DOT
GOV PECKED LAST TODAY'S EVENTS.
THE HEARING ROOM WILL BE OPEN
FOR ATTENDANCE OF THIS HEARING.
ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC
ATTENDING THE HEARING IS
ENCOURAGED TO WEAR MASK AT ALL
TIMES WHILE IN THE BUILDING. THE
PUBLIC MAY ALSO PARTICIPATE IN
THIS HEARING. BY TELEPHONE. WE
ENCOURAGE THE PUBLIC TO MONITOR
THE COMMITTEE'S WEBSITE FOR
UPDATES. SO WERE LOOKING FOR.
SER AUTHORS. WHERE WE HAVE 123.
WE HAVE A QUORUM, SO LET'S
ESTABLISH A FORM. JOHN SAWYER
HERE, LACKEY BANTA HERE, BRIAN.
QUIRK HERE, SANTIAGO. CR TWO.
QUORUM IS PRESENT. AND. FIRST
IS, UH, WE HAVE HUESO. BECKER.
BRADFORD I SAW ACROSS THE HALL
TESTIFYING. UH, GLACIER. STERN.
AND THEN THE, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY.
I'M THE BUSSMANN BILL. I'M
CONCERNED. I'M SORRY. SO I
REPEAT. THOUGHT THEM
HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS. UM OFF
CALENDAR TODAY. IS ITEM NUMBER
TWO. SP 918 IMPORTANT, TINO. UM
WHICH WAS PULLED BY THE AUTHOR.
AH! ITEM NUMBER 10 21 BRADFORD.
WITH PULLED BY THIS COMMITTEE.
AND I JUST MAKE A QUICK
STATEMENT. THERE'S SOME
INFORMATION. THAT HAS BEEN
HANDED OUT. TO COMMITTEE MEMBERS
THAT WE'RE FINDING MAY NOT HAVE
BEEN TOTALLY TRUE, SO WE'RE
GOING TO SPEND THE NEXT WEEK.
TRYING TO GET THE FACTS SO THAT
THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS HERE CAN
ACTUALLY NO WHAT. THIS DEVICE
DOES, BUT MOST IMPORTANT, HOW IT
IMPACTS THE COMMUNITY. I THINK
THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF MIS
UNDERSTANDINGS ARE USED THAT
WORDING AND, UH, AS I DON'T
THINK THE COMMITTEE AS A WHOLE
IS AGAINST MY I D S. THEY JUST
WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU USE
APPROPRIATELY. UM ON ITEM NUMBER
SEVEN. 12 62 BRADFORD PULLED BY
THE AUTHOR. ITEM NUMBER NINE SB
14 68 GLACIER. WITH PAUL BY THE. WELL, NOW DO THE CONSENT
CALENDAR. ITEM NUMBER ONE LABOR
, UH SP 916 SEXUAL ASSAULT
VICTIMS. RIGHTS ITEM NUMBER 10
SB 14 72 STERN. VEHICULAR
MANSLAUGHTER. EXCUSE ME,
SPEEDING AND RECKLESS DRIVING.
AND ITEM NUMBER 11 SB 14 93 THE
PUBLIC SAFETY. UM I'M THE BUS
BILL FROM THE CONSENT. ALL THE
ROLE. AND THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
JOAN SAWYER, I LACKEY LACKEY. I
BONTA BRIAN QUIRK QUIRK.
SANTIAGO SEYARTO TOÀN ARE TÔI.
CONSENT CALENDAR ADOPTED. AND WE
ARE. OH, I JUST FOUND OUT THAT
WE DO HAVE A SUBSTITUTE AUTHOR
SP 990 HUESO, NUMBER THREE WILL
BE SENT PRESENTED BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S BACK TO.
SEEING AS HOW THIS IS NOT A
SENATE CONFIRMATION. IS TO ONE
MIKE. GOOD MORNING, MEMBERS OF
THE ASSEMBLY PUBLIC SAFETY CHAIR
, UH, ON BEHALF OF SENATOR WEST
, SO I'M HAPPY TO PRESENT SP 9
90 A BILL THAT WOULD ALLOW
PEOPLE ON PAROLE OR POST RELEASE
COMMUNITY SUPERVISION. THE
OPTION TO TRANSFER FROM PRISON
DIRECTLY TO THE COUNTY, WHERE
POST SECONDARY EDUCATIONAL OR
VOCATIONAL TRAINING PROGRAM
OPPORTUNITY IS LOCATED, RATHER
THAN TO THE COUNTY OF LAST LEGAL
RESIDENTS. CURRENTLY WHEN
SOMEONE COMPLETES THEIR SENTENCE
, THEY RETURNED TO THE COUNTY OF
LAST LEGAL RESIDENTS, BARRING
ANY RELEASE RESTRICTIONS RELATED
TO PUBLIC SAFETY. A PERSON'S
PAROLE IS USUALLY RESTRICTED TO
THE SAME COUNTY AS WELL WITH
VERY FEW OPTIONS FOR RELOCATION
IN CALIFORNIA OVER 40,000
INDIVIDUALS LEAVE PRISON EACH
YEAR. WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO
REINTEGRATE INTO SOCIETY LESS
THAN 15% ARE PICKED UP BY
FRIENDS AND FAMILY. MOST ARE
PROVIDED ONLY $200. AND MOST
USED THIS MONEY TO PAY FOR
CLOTHING, A BUS TICKET, HOME
HOUSING AND OTHER INTERMEDIATE
AND OTHER IMMEDIATE ESSENTIALS.
IN THE FIRST WEEKS FOLLOWING
RELEASE FROM PRISON AND
INDIVIDUALS. RISK OF DEATH IS
ONE DOZEN TIMES GREATER THAN
THAT OF THE GENERAL POPULATION.
THESE OBSTACLES COMPOUND FOR
MINORITY POPULATIONS AND PEOPLE
OF COLOR. WITH THAT, UH, I WOULD
LIKE TO INTRODUCE THE WITNESS.
THAT WE HAVE HERE TODAY. THANK
YOU AND GOOD MORNING, MR
CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE. MY NAME IS GAIL YEN
AND I'M THE CALIFORNIA POLICY
DIRECTOR, ROUTE AND REBOUND.
NONPROFIT LEGAL REENTRY ADVOCACY
ORGANIZATION THAT SUPPORTS
FORMERLY INCARCERATED PEOPLE
NAVIGATING BARRIERS. SIRI ENTRY
ACROSS CALIFORNIA. I'M HERE AS A
CO SPONSOR IN IN STRONG SUPPORT
OF SENATE BILL 9 90, AUTHOR BY
SENATOR HUESO. ALTHOUGH PAROLE
IMPOLITE POST RELEASE
COMMUNITIES, SUPERVISION, OR P.
R C S WAS INTENDED TO HELP WITH
THE TRANSITION FROM
INCARCERATION. IT HAS INSTEAD
BECOME AN EXTENSION OF
IMPRISONMENT. AND SET MANY OF
OUR CLIENTS AND OTHER FORMERLY
INCARCERATED PEOPLE UP FOR
FAILURE. WELL THEY'RE NO LONGER
BEHIND BARS. IT DOES NOT MEAN
THEY HAVE THE FREEDOM TO LIVE AS
THEY PLEASE. PEOPLE ON PAROLE.
NPR CSR SUBJECT OF VARIETY OF
STRICT RULES IN OPPRESSIVE TERMS
AND CONDITIONS THAT ARE
OVERBROAD. WELL, ONE OF THE
REQUIREMENTS FOR PEOPLE ON
PAROLE. NPR'S YES TO NOT RETURN
TO PRISON IS TO MAINTAIN
EMPLOYMENT. HAVE STABLE HOUSING,
PARTICIPATE IN JOB TRAINING OUR
LIFE SCHOOLS PROGRAMS OR ATTEND
APPROACH SECONDARY INSTITUTION.
THE PROCESS IS IN CALIFORNIA DO
NOT NECESSARILY PRIORITIZE THOSE
NEEDS. IN FACT, MANY PEOPLE ON
PAROLE NPR CS HAVE HAD TO PASS
UP THE OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND THE
SCHOOLING OF THEIR CHOICE
BECAUSE THEIR TRAVEL
RESTRICTIONS AS A RESULT, THERE
NEEDS TO BE A SEAMLESS TRANSFER
FOR FIRMLY INCARCERATE PEOPLE
WHO HAVE BEEN ACCEPTED TO A
COLLEGE OR UNIVERSITY, WHICH MAY
BE OUTSIDE OF THEIR CONFINED
GEOGRAPHIC REGION AS DEFINED BY
THEIR PAROLE OR PROBATION AGENT.
AS WE 9 90 WILL HELP FORMERLY
INCARCERATED INDIVIDUALS AND
THEIR FAMILIES BY OPENING UP
AVENUES OF OPPORTUNITIES, RUNS
PROHIBITED BASED PURELY ON
BUREAUCRATIC RESTRICTIONS. SP 99
YEARS JUST ONE STEP IN THE
PROCESS OF FIXING THE INEQUITIES
CREATED BY THE MASS
INCARCERATION SYSTEM. AS A
RESULT, WE'RE PROUD TO COSPONSOR
AND SUPPORTING. SB 9 90 ASK THAT
YOU ALL ALSO SUPPORT THIS PIECE
OF IMPORTANT PIECE OF
LEGISLATION. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER
WITNESSES IN THE HEARING ROOM IN
SUPPORT? WILL NOW GO TO THE
PHONE LINES OPEN UP THE PHONE
LINES 18 TO OPERATOR WHO WAITS
THEM. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN TO COMMENT
IN SUPPORT OF THIS LEGISLATION,
PLEASE PRESS 10 ON YOUR
TELEPHONE KEYPAD. ONE MOMENT,
PLEASE.
AND FIRST WE WILL GO TO LINE 11
. PLEASE GO AHEAD. ONE MOMENT,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. MR CHAIR
MEMBERS, NICK ROMLEY ON BEHALF
OF THE MICHAELSON CENTER FOR
PUBLIC POLICY, STRONG SUPPORT.
NEXT WE HAVE LINE 19 GO AHEAD,
PLEASE. GOOD MORNING, SAVANNAH
MENDOZA ON BEHALF OF THE
CAMPAIGN FOR COLLEGE OPPORTUNITY
AND STRONG SUPPORT OF SB 9 90.
NEXT WE GO TO LINE 20 GO AHEAD,
PLEASE. GOOD MORNING. JOANN
PARKS FROM A C L U CALIFORNIA
ACTION IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU. IN
ONE MOMENT, PLEASE. WE DO HAVE
ONE MORE LINE.
NEXT. WE HAVE LINE 22, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. GOOD MORNING CHAIR AND
MEMBERS OF THE ANTHONY DI
MARTINO ON BEHALF OF
CALIFORNIANS FOR SAFETY AND
JUSTICE AND STRONG SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. QUÊ. AND WE DO HAVE
ONE MORE LINE. ONE MOMENT,
PLEASE. AND NEXT WE GO TO LINE
14 GO AHEAD. GOOD MORNING, MARCO
GEORGE ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA PUBLIC DEFENDERS
ASSOCIATION AND STRONG SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND WE
HAVE NO OTHER LINES. YOU MAY
PROCEED. CHAIRMAN. OKAY? AH! WAS
THERE ANYONE ELSE IN SUPPORT
THAT MAY HAVE COME IN THE ROOM
RECENTLY? MORNING YOU ARE SO
KIND GLENN BACCHUS FOR ELLA
BAKER. CENTER IN SUPPORT. THANK
YOU. WILL NOW GO TO WITNESSES
AND OPPOSITION. ARE THERE ANY
WITNESSES IN THE HEARING ROOM IN
OPPOSITION? SEEN NONE. 18 THE
OPERATOR WILL GO TO WITNESSES
AND OPPOSITION FOR SP 990. THANK
YOU. I DID. WE BELIEVE I BELIEVE
WE GOT ONE PERSON RIGHT AT THE
VERY END. THAT'S ON THE PHONE
FOR SUPPORT. LET ME OPEN THAT
LINE. THAT'S 23. GO AHEAD,
PLEASE. WITH THE JUSTICE GROUP
AND SUPPORT THANK YOU. LADIES
AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU ARE AN
OPPOSITION, PLEASE PRESS 10 AT
THIS TIME. AND WE HAVE NO LINES.
YOU MAY GO AHEAD.
AND REMEMBER, NOT SURE IF YOU
HEARD WE HAVE NO OTHER LINES IN
OPPOSITION. YOU MAY GO AHEAD.
THANK YOU NOW BRING IT BACK TO
COMMITTEE FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR
COMING. MRS THEORY. SO IF YOU
KNOW YOU'RE NOT THE AUTHOR, AND
SO I'M HOPING THAT YOU CAN HELP
ME A LITTLE BIT ON THIS. UM SO
YOU KNOW, THE COUNTIES ARE KIND
OF BIG AREAS. AND. WHEN THERE'S
A COLLEGE OR VACATION TRAINING
PROGRAM. YOU KNOW, THEY RELEASED
THE PRISONER BACK TO THE AREA,
THE FORMERLY INCARCERATED PERSON
ON PAROLE BACK TO THE COUNTY,
WHERE THEY CAME FROM. CAUSE I
THINK THAT'S WHERE PEOPLE ARE
MORE FAMILIAR WITH THEM. UM, THE
CHANCE OF THEM NOT HAVING FAMILY
OR SOMEBODY IN THERE IS VERY
MINIMAL. UM THE CHANCE OF THERE
NOT BEING A COLLEGE OR
VOCATIONAL TRAINING PROGRAM IS
ALSO MINIMUM, HOWEVER, IF THEY
DID NOT HAVE ONE AVAILABLE TO
THEM IN THAT COUNTY. THEY COULD
STILL GO TO ONE. THEY WOULD JUST
HAVE TO CHECK WITH THEIR PAROLE
OFFICER, IS THAT CORRECT? IT
DOESN'T EXCLUDE THEM JUST
BECAUSE THEY'RE RELEASED INTO
THE COUNTY FROM WEDNESDAY THEY
CAME DOESN'T EXCLUDE THEM FROM
ATTENDING VOCATIONAL TRAINING,
NOR DOES THIS REQUIRED THEM TO
ACTUALLY. GO TO THE TRAINING,
CORRECT? THEY THEY WERE. IF I
UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION
CORRECTLY, IF THEY WERE ACCEPTED
INTO SO I THINK WHAT'S HAPPENING
IS THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE
WE'LL GO TO LIKE GET INTO
ACCEPTED INTO BERKLEY OR LIKE U
C. L A. BUT THEN THERE LAST
COUNTY RESIDENTS WASN'T IN L, A
OR BERKELEY. SO THEN THEY WANT
TO GO TO THAT SCHOOL, AND THAT'S
THE THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO TALK
TO THEIR PAROLE AGENT AND THEN
ACCESS THAT BARRIER. BUT IF THEY
DO END UP GOING BACK TO L A AND
THEY DO GET ACCEPTED INTO YOUR
CLAY. THEN THEY CAN TOTALLY GO.
OKAY AND THIS IS JUST UPON
RELEASE AND WHILE THEY'RE ON
PAROLE AFTER THEIR OFF PAROLE,
THEY ARE FREE TO GO WHEREVER.
ALRIGHT THANK YOU. THE INTENTION
IS TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S
CONTINUITY BETWEEN WHAT THEY
WERE. ALREADY DOING WHILE THEY
WERE INCARCERATED AND THEN UPON
RELEASE BEING ABLE TO CONTINUE
ON WITH THEIR EDUCATION OR
VOCATIONAL EDUCATION EXPERIENCE.
MOVE THE BILL. SECOND. AND NO
MORE QUESTIONS. YOU MAY CLOSE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. I THINK THIS
BILL PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR
US TO BE ABLE TO REDUCE THE
LEVEL OF RECIDIVISM AND ENSURE
THAT EVERYBODY HAS AN
OPPORTUNITY TO PURSUE
EDUCATIONAL PATHWAYS. WITH THAT%
? I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR I
VOTE. THANK YOU. CALL THE ROLL
CHAIRS RECOMMENDING I VOTE. SP 9
90 BY SENATOR WEST SO THE MOTION
IS DUE PATH TO THE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE. JOAN
SAWYER, YOUR LACKEY LACKEY NO,
BONTA. I, BRIAN. QUIRK QUIRK
EYES SANTIAGO CR TWO SEYARTO NÓ.
MEASURES DON'T CALL NEEDS TO
MORE. JUST LIKE I BELIEVE WE
NEED TWO MORE OFFERS OTHERS.
BECKER AND BRADFORD. OH, YES.
AND MR SANTIAGO FOR MR HUESO.
THANK YOU FOR COMING RIGHT OVER,
MR BECKER. ABSOLUTELY. AND
WHENEVER HE WRITES SENATOR
BECKERT ITEM NUMBER FIVE SB 1000
. BECKER LAW ENFORCEMENT
AGENCIES, RADIO COMMUNICATIONS.
THANK YOU LIKE YOUR SUIT, MR
SHARE. GOOD MORNING CHAIR
MEMBERS. SB 1000 PROTECTS THE
FREEDOM OF THE PRESS TO REPORT
AND THE PUBLIC'S RIGHT TO KNOW
WHAT IS GOING ON THE COMMUNITIES
THROUGH POLICE RADIO
COMMUNICATIONS ACCESS. FOR 70,
PLUS YEARS, NEWS OUTLETS,
JOURNALISTS PUBLIC HAVE HAD
ACCESS TO POLICE RADIO
COMMUNICATIONS. AND THIS ACCESS
IS CRITICAL FOR POLICE
TRANSPARENCY, ACCOUNTABILITY
REPORTING PUBLICSAFETY ACTIVITY
OF ALL KINDS LIKE DRIVE TRAFFIC
ACCIDENTS, DISASTERS, SHOOTING
AND CRIME TO THE PUBLIC.
UNFORTUNATELY THERE IS AN
ALARMING TREND IN CALIFORNIA AND
THE NATION THAT HAS POLICE
DEPARTMENTS FULLY ENCRYPTING OR
BLOCKING THE RADIO
COMMUNICATIONS. IN THE NAME OF
PROTECTING PERSONALLY
IDENTIFIABLY IDENTIFIABLE
INFORMATION. THE GOOD NEWS IS
THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT CAN IN FACT
, PROTECT PRIVATE INFORMATION
WITHOUT PUTTING THE PUBLIC IN
THE DARK. THIS BILL AS FEW 1000
IS NOT A MANDATE TO ENCRYPT.
THIS BILL PROVIDES A HOST OF
OPTIONS TO PUBLIC SAFETY
DEPARTMENTS, BIG AND SMALL. AND
GRANTS PROTECTIONS TO LAW
ENFORCEMENT WHO MAY TRANSMIT
PRIVATE INFORMATION ACCESSIBLE
RADIO WAVES FOR OFFICER SAFETY.
CHP AND MOST COUNTIES AND CITIES
WILL NOT BE IMPACTED, FISCALLY
OR OPERATIONALLY. IF SB 1000
WERE TO PASS TODAY. AND WE'VE
RECEIVED SUPPORT FROM PRIVACY
AND FIRST AMENDMENT
ORGANIZATIONS, SETTING THAT WE
HAVE FOUND THE RIGHT BALANCE
WITH THIS BILL. AND WITH A
DELAYED IMPLEMENTATION AMENDMENT
. LAW ENFORCEMENT HAS AN
ADDITIONAL YEAR TO IMPLEMENT.
NOW IS NOT THE TIME WE BELIEVE
TO REDUCE POLICE TRANSPARENCY.
AND WORK CLOSELY WITH THE DOJ,
STATE AND LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT
DEPARTMENTS, JOURNALISTS AND
BROADCASTERS AND ADVOCATES
BEFORE THIS INTRODUCTION. WE
CONTINUE TO HAVE PRODUCTIVE
CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR LAW
ENFORCEMENT PARTNERS. THANK YOU.
CHAIR MEMBERS. RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR YOUR VOTE. THANK YOU.
WITNESSES. GOOD MORNING, MR
CHAIR. MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE
. MY NAME'S BRITTANY BAR SAUDI.
I'M THE GENERAL COUNSEL OVER THE
CALIFORNIA NEWS PUBLISHERS
ASSOCIATION. WE REPRESENT AROUND
850 PUBLICATIONS IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA. AND ARE THE PROUD CO
SPONSORS OF SP 1000, ALONG WITH
THE CALIFORNIA BROADCASTERS
ASSOCIATION. UM YOU KNOW, AS THE
SENATOR HAS SAID, THIS BILL
SIMPLY MAINTAINS THE STATUS QUO
IN TERMS OF A CLARIFIES THIS DOJ
MEMO, WHICH CREATES SOME
CONFUSION AND HAD DEPARTMENT
FULLY ENCRYPTING THEIR
COMMUNICATIONS WHILE PROVIDING A
BROADER AMOUNT OF OPTIONS IN
ORDER TO MAINTAIN PERSONALLY
IDENTIFIABLE INFORMATION, WHILE
STILL ENSURING THAT THE PRESS
HAS THE PUBLIC HAVE IMPORTANT
ACCESS. TO WHAT IS GOING ON
DEVELOPING SITUATIONS. THIS
ACCESS HAS BEEN CRITICAL WHEN
REPORTING ON BREAKING NEWS
SITUATIONS AND PARTICULARLY. ARE
INVOLVED AROUND LIKE IF THERE'S
A DEVELOPING ACTIVE SHOOTER
SITUATION IN SAN BERNARDINO
SEVERAL YEARS AGO, THERE WAS ONE
INCIDENT THAT THE L A TIMES
FOUND. IT WAS CRITICAL TO HAVE
THIS TYPE OF ACCESS AND TO
MAINTAIN IT TO KEEP THE PUBLIC
SAFE AND AWAY FROM AREAS THAT
WERE UNSAFE TO THEM. AND SO, UM
, YOU KNOW, WE'VE WORKED VERY
HARD WITH PRIVACY GROUPS TO TRY
AND UM AND TO TRY AND FIND AN
APPROPRIATE BALANCED WITH LAW
ENFORCEMENT. THE BILL INCLUDES
AN EXEMPTION FOR UNDER COVER
OPERATIONS. IT DOESN'T CREATE
ANY NEW ACCESS TO SCANNERS. I
KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME CONCERNS
AROUND AROUND NEFARIOUS ACTIONS
INVOLVED FOR PEOPLE TO BE
MONITORING VIA SCANNERS. IF THEY
ARE DOING THAT THEY CAN DO THAT
CURRENTLY, AND IT IS IMPORTANT
TO NOTE THAT THAT IS A CRIME
UNDER CALIFORNIA LAW, SO THAT IS
PUNISHABLE IF USED FOR NEFARIOUS
ACTIONS. AND SO WE BELIEVE THIS
BILL STRIKES AN APPROPRIATE
BALANCE AND RESPECTFULLY URGE
HER I VOTE AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL.
THANK YOU NOW GO TO WITNESSES IN
THE HEARING ROOM AND SUPPORT.
CNN WILL GO TO THE OPERATOR 18
TO OPERATOR OPEN UP THE LINES
FOR SB 1000 BECKER. THANK YOU
FOR THOSE IN SUPPORT. YOU MAY
PRESS ONE THAN ZERO ON YOUR
TELEPHONE KEYPAD. OUR FIRST LINE
IS 26. PLEASE GO AHEAD. CHAIR
MEMBERS CATALINA SANCHEZ WITH
CORBYN AND KAISER ON BEHALF OF
ELECTRONIC FRONTIER FOUNDATION
AND SUPPORT OF SB 1000. THANK
YOU. AND NEXT WE HAVE LINE 14,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD MORNING,
MARCO GEORGE ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA PUBLIC DEFENDERS
ASSOCIATION AND SUPPORT THANK
YOU. NEXT WE GO TO LINE 28,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. YEAH, THIS IS
MARK POWERS FROM THE CALIFORNIA
BROADCASTERS ASSOCIATION, URGING
YOUR SUPPORT ON BEHALF OF THE
RADIO AND TELEVISION STATIONS
SERVING YOUR CONSTITUENTS. AND
NEXT WEEK WE'LL GO TO LINE 10.
GO AHEAD, PLEASE. YEAH HE WAS
OAKLAND PRIVACY AND SUPPORT OF
SB 1000. AND CHAIRMAN. WE HAVE
NO OTHER LINES. YOU MAY CONTINUE
, UM, WILL NOW GO TO WITNESSES
AND OPPOSITION IN THE HEARING.
YES, EVER SEEN. THE MORNING
COMMITTEE AND MR CHAIR. MY NAME
IS JULIO DE LEON, REPRESENTING
THE RIVERSIDE COUNTY SHERIFF'S
DEPARTMENT. AND SHERIFF CHAD
BIANCO. WE ARE OPPOSED TO THIS
BILL, BUT WE BELIEVE WE CAN COME
TO A COMPROMISE IF THE AUTHOR IS
AMENABLE TO CONSIDERING OUR
AMENDMENTS. WE BELIEVE THESE
AMENDMENTS ARE MUTUALLY
BENEFICIAL ABOUT THE PUBLIC AND
LAW ENFORCEMENT. THROUGHOUT LOT
THROUGHOUT CALIFORNIA, AND THEY
COINCIDE WITH THE AUTHOR'S I
JUST SAID HAVE UNTENABLE FOR
ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY
. FIRST ADDRESS THE DOJ MEMO
BACK IN 2020. THE DOJ ISSUED A
MEMO TO ALL LAW ENFORCEMENT
AGENCIES IN CALIFORNIA. AND THEY
GIVE US AN OPTION. ONE ENCRYPT
RADIO TRAFFIC TO PROTECT
CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION OR TO
ESTABLISH POLICY TO RESTRICT THE
DISSEMINATION OF THIS
INFORMATION. I'VE INCLUDED THIS
MEMO FOR YOUR REFERENCE IN OUR
OPPOSITION LETTER THAT WE
SUBMITTED TO THE COMMITTEE. AND
I ENCOURAGE YOU TO READ IT FOR
YOURSELVES. NOW THERE'S BEEN
SOME MISCOMMUNICATION AS TO
WHETHER OR NOT WE MISINTERPRETED
THE LANGUAGE. HOWEVER, I'LL READ
YOU A SPECIFIC LINE IN THAT
LETTER. COMPLIANCE WITH THESE
REQUIREMENTS CAN BE ACHIEVED
USING ANY AND I EMPHASIZE THE
WORD ANY OF THE FOLLOWING AND
THEN IT GOES TO THE FIRST, UM,
ENCRYPTION OPTION OR NUMBER TO
ESTABLISH A POLICY. WE AS MANY
OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES
THROUGHOUT CALIFORNIA CHOSE
OPTION ONE. AND WE ENCRYPTED OUR
ENTIRE RADIO COMMUNICATIONS. WE
SPENT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND WE
ALSO SPENT THOUSANDS OF
PERSONNEL HOURS TO ACCOMPLISH
THIS MANDATE. NOW WITH THIS
SPILL, THE LEGISLATURE WILL BE
FORTUNATE TO DECRYPT THE RADIO
SYSTEMS ONCE AGAIN, WHICH WILL
COST US A MILLION DOLLARS OR
SEVERAL MILLION DOLLARS TO
ACCOMPLISHED THAT TASK. UM AND
SEVERAL 1000 HOURS ON OUR BEHALF
AS WELL. THIS IS SIMPLY UNFAIR
AND WE CAME UP. WE'VE COME UP
WITH A SOLUTION. WE'VE WE'VE
COMMUNICATED THIS WITH SENATOR
BECKER'S OFFICE. UM NUMBER ONE,
UM, REMOVE THE. THE TERM RADIO
COMMUNICATIONS AND REPLACED WITH
CALL INFORMATION. THAT ALLOWS
THE US TO DEVELOP A WEB PORTAL
OR ANOTHER FORM, WHICH THE CPC
A. WE'LL JUST WE'LL SPEAK ABOUT.
IN ORDER FOR US TO COMMUNICATE
OUR CALL INFORMATION VIA A WEB
PORTAL. THAT INFORMATION WILL
HAVE TO CALL INFORMATION. THE UM
LOCATION OF THE INCIDENT, IF
WHETHER OR NOT DISPATCH HAS
DISPATCHED THAT CALL TO ANY
OFFICERS OR DEPUTIES OUT IN THE
FIELD. UM AND IT WILL ALSO HAVE
THE DISPOSITION OF THE CALL. SO
THIS INFORMATION WILL BE
PROVIDED TO PRESS AND ANYONE
ANYONE HAVING ACCESS TO THE
INTERNET WITH ALL IMPORTANT
INFORMATION THEY NEED ABOUT A
CALL THAT IS OCCURRING IN THEIR
COMMUNITIES. UM SO IF THESE
AMENDMENTS ARE TAKEN, WE WOULD
GLADLY WITHDRAW. OUR POSITION,
HOWEVER, IS THE BILL STANDS NOW
WE CANNOT. WE CANNOT SUPPORT THE
BILL BASED ON FISCAL LOGISTICAL
AND SAFETY CONCERNS FOR OUR
DEPUTIES ON THE FIELD. SO ON
BEHALF OF THE RIVERS, THAT KIND
OF SHERIFF DEPARTMENT, SHERIFF
CHAD BIANCO. WE STRONGLY URGE
YOU TO VOTE. NO. AS CURRENTLY
WRITTEN UNLESS THESE AMENDMENTS
ARE TAKEN THANK YOU. YES, SIR.
CHAIR MEMBERS, JONATHAN FELDMAN
ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
POLICE CHIEFS ASSOCIATION. I'LL
JUST FOLLOW UP BRIEFLY, UM AND
WANT TO JUST BACKTRACK FOR A
SECOND, SO EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS
THAT THE DOJ MEMO CAME FROM AN
FBI ORDER. ISSUED TO ALL LAW
ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES THAT WERE
NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH PRIVACY
RULES IF WE USE PERSONAL
IDENTIFYING INFORMATION OR
CRIMINAL JUSTICE INFORMATION
OVER THE RADIOS, SO THAT'S WHY
WE WENT TO ENCRYPTION BECAUSE OF
WHAT THE FBI ORDERED, SO IT'S
NOT A MATTER OF STATE LAW, JUST
CHANGING THINGS HERE. WE STILL
HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THOSE
ORDERS. WHERE THAT RUNS INTO
CONFLICT WITH SB 1000 IS THE
FACT THAT YOU HAVE A LINE IN THE
BILL THAT SAYS THAT ANY
INTERESTED PERSON CAN HAVE
ACCESS TO ENCRYPTED RADIO
CHANNELS. THAT'S THE BIGGEST
PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE WITH THE
BILL, BECAUSE AT THAT POINT,
EVEN IF WE? WE MOVED TO THE
SYSTEM UNDER THIS WHERE WE HAVE
ENCRYPTED CHANNELS FOR PERSONAL
IDENTIFYING INFORMATION OR
CRIMINAL JUSTICE INFORMATION.
SOMEBODY CAN HAVE ACCESS TO
THAT, AND THAT'S A VIOLATION OF
THOSE FEDERAL ORDERS, AND IT'S A
VIOLATION OF AUDIO J POLICIES
THAT NO ONE CAN HAVE ACCESS TO
KLUTZ INFORMATION UNLESS THEY'RE
SIEGES APPROVED. SO TO CORRECT
THAT I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS
WE FIRST HAVE TO LOOK AT IS, UH,
HOW THESE EXEMPTIONS IN THE
BILLS WORK WITH THAT LINE IN
THERE. THERE ARE EXEMPTIONS FOR
TACTICAL OPERATIONS AND FOR THE
USE OF THIS INFORMATION, BUT
THOSE ARE IN DIRECT CONFLICT
WITH THAT FIRST LINE ABOVE THAT,
SAYS ANY INTERESTED PERSON CAN
HAVE ACCESS TO ENCRYPTED RADIOS
. THOSE DON'T WORK TOGETHER. WE
CAN'T HAVE TACTICAL OPERATIONS
RUNNING AND C J AND P I THOSE
ARE THE SET OF INFORMATION
THAT'S PROTECTED ON ENCRYPTED
CHANNELS IF WE'RE ALSO AT THE
SAME TIME PROVIDING ACCESS TO
THOSE ENCRYPTED CHANNELS NOW,
MAYBE IT'S THE INTENT TO PROVIDE
A SITUATION WHERE THERE'S
MULTIPLE, DIFFERENT ENCRYPTED
CHANNELS. BUT THAT DOESN'T WORK
PRACTICALLY IN URBAN AREAS ARE
DENSELY POPULATED AREAS. THERE
ARE NOT UNLIMITED PLETHORA OF
RADIO CHANNELS AND FREQUENCIES
FOR US TO USE. WE CAN'T JUST
CREATE AN ADDITIONAL NEW
ENCRYPTED CHANNEL. BECAUSE ALL
OF THE RADIO WAVES ARE TAKEN UP.
SO I THINK PRACTICALLY THERE ARE
SOME ISSUES HERE WITH THE BILL
AND CONTRADICTIONS THAT ARE
UNCLEAR AT BEST, AND MAYBE JUST
NEED TO GET CLEANED UP. UM IN
ORDER TO MAKE THIS WORKABLE, BUT
I WANT TO FINISH BY SAYING THE
POLICE CHIEFS ASSOCIATION DOES
NOT OPPOSE TRANSPARENCY. WE HAVE
STOOD UP AND SUPPORTED
TRANSPARENCY MEASURES.
HISTORICALLY, IN THIS IN THIS
LEGISLATURE IN THIS BODY EVEN AT
TIMES WHEN WE WERE THE ONLY LAW
ENFORCEMENT GROUP TO DO SO. WE
ARE NOT OPPOSED TO TRANSPARENCY.
WE'RE NOT OPPOSED TO ALLOWING
THE MEDIA TO HAVE ACCESS TO
CERTAIN DISPATCH CALLS. IF YOU
LOOK AT COLORADO STATUTE, THEY
PROVIDE ACCESS TO PRIMARY
DISPATCH CALLS. SO YOU KNOW
WHAT'S HAPPENING AND WHERE IT'S
HAPPENING, BUT WE'RE ALSO
PROTECTING THE PRIVACY
INFORMATION. A TACTICAL
OPERATIONS. UNFORTUNATELY THE
BILL DOES NOT STRIKE THAT
BALANCE. NOW IT'S SOMETHING THAT
WE'VE TALKED TO THE AUTHOR'S
OFFICE ABOUT WILL CONTINUE TO
TALK TO THEM ABOUT THROUGHOUT
THE SUMMER MONTHS HERE AND
HOPEFULLY FIND A COMPROMISE AT
THE END OF THE DAY. BUT ARE
OPPOSED AS DRAFTED. THANK YOU.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
THE ROOM IN OPPOSITION? GOOD
MORNING, MR CHAIR AND MEMBERS
COREY CHAU ZILLOW ON BEHALF OF
THE CALIFORNIA STATE SHERIFF'S
ASSOCIATION IN OPPOSITION.
THANKS, THANKS. AND 18 T
OPERATOR WILL GO TO THE PHONE
LINES, WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION
TO BECKER. SB 1000. HE WITNESSES
AN OPPOSITION PRESS 10, WE FIRST
GO TO LINE 29 GO AHEAD, PLEASE.
HELLO I WAS UNABLE TO DIAL IN
EARLIER DOING SUPPORT. BUT THIS
IS JUST THE AND PARK FROM WKOW
ACTION IN SUPPORT OF THIS BILL,
I JUST WASN'T ABLE TO CALL IT.
THANK YOU. AND WE HAVE ONE MORE
LINE HERE. ONE MOMENT, PLEASE.
AND WE'LL GO TO LINE 27 GO
AHEAD. GOOD MORNING SHARON
MEMBERS TO OUR CITY, AKONA WITH
THE LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES
IN OPPOSITION. THANK YOU. AND
CHAIRMAN. THERE ARE NO OTHER
LINES. YOU MAY PROCEED. OKAY
WITHOUT BRING IT. HELLO JENNIFER
SEELIG WITNESS IN SUPPORT
WAITING IN QUEUE. OKAY. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD
MORNING, AND THANK YOU, CHAIR
AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE.
FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO
SHARE WITH YOU. WHY I NAME AND
ORGANIZATION, PLEASE. I'M SORRY.
I'M A WITNESS IN OH, YOU WERE
BECKERS. YOU ARE GOING TO BE THE
PRIMARY. CEILING, YOU MAY BEGIN.
YOU HAVE TWO NAMES SO MUCH.
THANK YOU AND GOOD MORNING CHAIR
AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE FOR
GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO
SHARE WITH YOU. WHY I STRONGLY
SUPPORT SB 1000. I AM JENNIFER
SEELIG, DIRECTOR OF NEWS AND
PROGRAMMING FOR KCBS ALL NEWS
RADIO. KCBS IS THE BAY AREA'S
PRIMARY OR LP ONE EMERGENCY
ALERT SYSTEM STATION. I'M ALSO
PROUD TO REPRESENT JOURNALISTS
THROUGHOUT CALIFORNIA AS A
MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS
OF R T, D, N A THE RADIO
TELEVISION DIGITAL NEWS
ASSOCIATION. SB 1000 IS
CRITICALLY IMPORTANT TO THE
SAFETY SECURITY AND WELL BEING
OF THE PUBLIC BECAUSE IT
RESTORES FOR WORKING JOURNALISTS
AND ESSENTIAL TOOL THAT SUPPORTS
AND INFORMS OUR NEWS GATHERING
EFFORT. JOURNALISTS HAVE A
RESPONSIBILITY TO INFORM THE
PUBLIC IN REAL TIME. THE
DECISION BY A NUMBER OF LAW
ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES TO FULLY
ENCRYPT THEIR SKIN OR
COMMUNICATIONS GREATLY LIMITS
THE ABILITY OF JOURNALISTS TO
SERVE THE PUBLIC DURING NATURAL
DISASTERS. EVACUATIONS MASS
CASUALTY INCIDENTS. AND OTHER
MAJOR NEWS EVENTS. STANDARD
COMMUNICATION ALSO HELPS
JOURNALISTS STAY SAFE IN THE
FIELD. IT IS OUR SAD REALITY
THAT NEWS CREWS ARE INCREASINGLY
TARGETED WHILE ON ASSIGNMENT.
SCANNER TRAFFIC. ALSO CLARIFIES
FOR JOURNALISTS WHERE NOT TO GO.
SO THAT WE DON'T ACCIDENTALLY
INTERRUPT OR INTERFERE WITH AN
EMERGENCY OPERATION. JOURNALISTS
UNDERSTAND AND RESPECT THE
SENSITIVE NATURE OF SCANNER
COMMUNICATIONS AS AN INDUSTRY
STANDARD. WE DO NOT REPORT
PRIVATE INFORMATION FROM RADIO
TRANSMISSIONS. IMPORTANTLY THERE
ARE BETTER WAYS TO PROTECT
INDIVIDUALS RIGHT TO PRIVACY
THAN FULL ENCRYPTION. SB 1000 IS
CRUCIAL TO THE SAFETY SECURITY
AND WELL BEING OF THE PUBLIC AND
WORKING JOURNALISTS. I'M PROUD
TO PROVIDE MY SUPPORT. AND I
THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE MY CONCERNS
WITH YOU. THANK YOU. AND NOW
WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO COMMITTEE
FOR QUESTIONS. MR MR LIKE MR
COURT. SEYARTO WELL. CERTAINLY,
UM. THERE THE INTENTION OF THIS
BILL IS NOBLE AND TRYING TO
ENCOURAGE TRANSPARENCY. BUT AS
WAS INDICATED BY THE OPPOSITION
THE LAW ENFORCEMENT CAUGHT IN
THE MIDDLE. AND WHAT THEIR
RESPONSE WAS. AH THE DEMANDS
THAT WERE CREATED BY THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT AND THE STATE. DOJ
AND PRIVACY. THIS WAS THERE.
THEIR WAY TO COMPLY WITH THOSE
DEMANDS. AND NOW. WE HAVE CLAMOR
FOR LACK OF TRANSPARENCY. AND.
UNFORTUNATELY I THINK THAT THE
REMEDY NEEDS TO COME WITH
WORKING. WITH DOJ. AND DIRECTLY
WITH THE O. J. AND I UNDERSTAND
THAT, UH, THE PROPONENTS OF THIS
BILL AS I SPOKE WITH SOME OF THE
PROPONENTS YESTERDAY THAT THEY
HAVE NOT BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN
TRYING TO GET RESPONSE FROM DOJ.
UM AND SO I UNDERSTAND THEIR
FRUSTRATION. BUT I TOTALLY
BELIEVE THAT WHAT'S BEING
PROPOSED HERE? CREATES A GREATER
PROBLEM. AND COMPLIANCE AND I
BELIEVE THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT IS
TRULY CAUGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF
THIS THING, AND IT'S UNFAIR TO
THEM AS AN AGENCY TO COMPLY WITH
THE PRIVACY AND THEN ALSO UM,
REACH OUT AND ENGAGE IN
TRANSPARENCY. SO THE BALANCE IS
GOING TO BE A VERY DIFFICULT
ONE. AND I BELIEVE THAT, UH THIS
BILL DEMANDS TOO CUMBERSOME AND
NOT WORKABLE PARAMETERS AND SO I
WON'T BE ABLE TO SUPPORT IT.
THANK YOU, MR QUIRK. I HAVE SOME
OF THE SAME CONCERNS AS MR
LACKEY AND, UH, AND THE
OPPOSITION. I JUST CAN'T IMAGINE
SAY THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON
LIKE THE SAN BERNARDINO, MASS
SHOOTING. HOW THEY OCCURRED
ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO THAT YOU
CAN POSSIBLY HAVE A CHANNEL
THAT'S ENCRYPTED. AND KNOW WHEN
THINGS AREN'T TO BE ENCRYPTED
AND SEND THEM OVER A DIFFERENT
CHANNEL BECAUSE IT'S CERTAINLY
GOING TO BE THINGS THAT UNDER
YOUR BILL SHOULD BE ENCRYPTED.
SHOULD SHOULD NOT BE NOW I'M
GOING TO VOTE TODAY TO SEND IT
FORWARD. BUT I UNDERSTAND THERE
ARE THINGS IN YOUR BILL THAT
WOULD DO SOMETHING SIMILAR TO
WHAT THE OPPOSITION WANTS. WHICH
IS TO HAVE SOMETHING OTHER THAN
THE ENCRYPTED CHANNEL. UM GIVE
INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC. UNDER
YOUR BILL, SO PERHAPS YOU COULD
EXPLAIN THAT AND WE CAN GO
FORWARD. THANK YOU. UM AND I
AGREE WITH SOME OF THE LACKEY
THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT HAS BEEN
CAUGHT IN THE MIDDLE AND THAT,
BUT I THINK I WOULD JUST CLARIFY
THAT. UM, I THINK THERE WAS
MAYBE A SENSE FROM THE
OPPOSITION THAT THE FBI
STATEMENT WAS A MANDATE TO
ENCRYPT AND IT WAS NOT RIGHT. SO
THE FBI SAID WAS NOT A MANDATE
TO ENCRYPT FOR, YOU KNOW, YOU
LOOK AT CHP. CHP NEVER HAD ANY
INTENTION TO ENCRYPT BECAUSE
THEY CAN'T BECAUSE THEY HAVE
THEY HAVE SUCH A WIDE TERRITORY
AND VERY GEOGRAPHY, GEOGRAPHY,
SO THEY FOUND A WAY TO BOTH
PROTECT PERSONAL IDENTIFYING
INFORMATION. UM AND TO HAVE
ACCESS TO THE PUBLIC, AND THAT'S
REALLY WHAT WE'VE TRIED TO DO.
SO WE HAVE TRIED TO STRIKE THAT
BALANCE. AND UM AND I'VE ALSO I
THINK YOUR POINT WORKED WITH THE
DOJ TO TRY TO GET THEM TO
CLARIFY BECAUSE IT'S REALLY
UNDER PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION
WITH THE DOJ THAT INITIAL MEMBER
OH CAME OUT. SO JUST AS THE FBI
IS NOT MEANT IT WAS NOT A
MANDATE TO ENCRYPT. OUR BILL IS
NOT AS YOU SAY, NOT A MANDATE TO
DE ENCRYPT. WE DO PROVIDE A
NUMBER OF WAYS FOR THIS ACCESS.
SO IF YOU HAVE MADE THAT
INVESTMENT AND I UNDERSTAND THAT
SOME OFFICERS HAVE MADE SPENT
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO ENCRYPT.
WE PROVIDE A NUMBER OF OPTIONS.
SO EXAMPLE ONLINE WEBSITE
STREAMING. SO JUST LIKE RIGHT
NOW, ANYBODY CAN GO LISTEN TO
THE SACRAMENTO PD. IT'S ONLINE.
WEBSITE STREAMING. ANYONE CAN
LISTEN TO IT. WE PROVIDE THAT AS
AN OPTION. UM RADIO CHANNEL
SCANNING EQUIPMENT. WE CAN
PURCHASE SPECIFIC DEVICES FOR
THE MEDIA. AND OTHER TECHNOLOGY
THAT CAN PROVIDE THIS ACCESS.
HAPPY TO LOOK AT THE CALL PORTAL
IDEA. I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT
DIFFERS WITH WHAT WE'VE TALKED
ABOUT WITH WEBSITE STREAMING,
BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT THIS IS
CERTAINLY AN INTENTION TO STRIKE
THAT BALANCE FOR THE OFFICES
THAT HAVE SPENT MILLIONS OF
DOLLARS TO ENCRYPT. WE'RE NOT
TRYING TO GET THEM TO SPEND
MILLIONS TO DE ENCRYPT. WE ARE
JUST TRYING TO STRIKE THAT
BALANCE AND PROVIDE THE PRESS.
WITH THE ACCESS THAT THEY'VE HAD
FOR 70 YEARS AND ANY OTHER
THOUGHT FROM THE MAIN WITNESSES
HERE ON THE FIRST PART OF THE
QUESTION. I THINK YOU COVERED IT
PRETTY WELL. I MEAN, THE DOJ
MEMO. DOES COME FROM THE FBI.
FOR TO ACCESS THOSE FEDERAL
DATABASES. BUT IT'S CLEAR THAT
ANY OF THE OTHER OPTIONS ARE
AVAILABLE VIA FULL ENCRYPTION.
FULL ENCRYPTION IS JUST ONE OF
THE OPTIONS PROVIDED SO THIS
ALLOWS THE FLEXIBILITY TO COMPLY
WITH PROTECTING THAT
INFORMATION. WOW. ALLOWING THE
PRESS THE ACCESS THEY NEED TO
REPORT ON THESE IMPORTANT
ISSUES. ALRIGHT. WELL I'LL BE
SUPPORTING THE BILL FOR NOW AND
JUST TRY AND UNDERSTAND THIS A
BIT BETTER, BUT I DO SUPPORT THE
AGENCY'S DOING FULLENCRYPTION.
MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE I HAD A
SECURITY CLEARANCE FOR NEARLY 30
YEARS AND I UNDERSTAND THE
IMPORTANCE OF SOME INFORMATION
BEING KEPT QUIET. AS LONG AS
THERE ARE WAYS TO GET THE PUBLIC
WHAT IT NEEDS FROM YOUR BILL AND
I UNDERSTAND FROM TALKING WITH
COMMITTEE STAFF THAT THERE ARE
WAYS TO DO THAT. AH SIMILAR TO
WHAT THE OPPOSITION IS ASKING
FOR. SO UM, I'D LIKE TO MOVE THE
BILL. AGAIN. ESTIMATES CIERTO.
SO I HAVE SEVERAL CONCERNS WITH
THE BILL, AND, UH YOU KNOW, I
REALIZED THAT PUBLIC AGENCIES
DIFFER THE JOB OF THE POLICE
AGENCIES AND POLICING AGENCIES
VERSUS FIRE AGENCIES. HOWEVER
THE COMPLEXITIES OF THE
COMMUNICATIONS AND THE RADIOS DO
NOT DIFFER. TODAY'S RADIOS ARE
NOT. UM, THE RADIOS OF 70 YEARS
AGO. THE AIRWAVES ARE NOT THE
AIRWAVES OF 70 YEARS AGO. UM WE
CAN'T COMPARE WHAT WE USED TO
DO. 70 YEARS AGO TO TODAY'S
ENVIRONMENT, ESPECIALLY ON THE
RADIO AND THEN ALSO OUT IN THE
PUBLIC. UM NEWS AGENCIES HAVE
ALWAYS HAD THE ABILITY TO SCAN
THEY SCAN THE DISPATCHING, AND
SO THEY KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO
WHAT IS BEING CALLED IN WHERE
IT'S AT. UM, THEY ARE FREE TO GO
THERE. AND. UM I DON'T SEE WHERE
THEY'RE BEING DENIED THE
OPPORTUNITY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S
OUT THERE AND WHAT'S NOT. THEY
ALSO GET TO HEAR THE INITIAL
SIZE UP BECAUSE THAT'S DONE ON
THE GENERALLY THE GENERAL RADIO
STATION. WHAT HAPPENS, THOUGH,
BETWEEN WHEN YOU'RE BEING
DISPATCHED TO WHEN YOU GET ON
SCENE? IS YOU WIND UP WITH A
CALM PLAN. AND YOU WIND UP WITH
THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT,
DIFFERENT FREQUENCIES THAT WE
NEED TO COMMUNICATE ON. AND IF
YOU'RE GOING TO ADD ANOTHER
FREQUENCY JUST FOR THE ENCRYPTED
PART AND THEN POLICE OFFICERS
ARE UNDER DURESS DURING A WHEN
THEY PULL UP ON SCENE IF THEY'RE
BEING FIRED UPON OR ANYTHING
LIKE THAT. UH IF THEY HAVE TO BE
SCRAMBLING AROUND TRYING TO GET
TO THEIR ENCRYPTED OR NON
ENCRYPTED, UH, LINES, UM, THAT
THAT CREATES BARRIERS FOR THEIR
SAFETY. FOR ME PARAMOUNT IN ALL
OF THIS. IS IT IS THE SAFETY OF
THE POLICE OFFICERS. THEY ARE
THE PEOPLE THAT ARE THE PUBLIC
SAFETY PEOPLE. THEY'RE TRYING TO
COMMUNICATE, AND THEIR FIRST
COMMUNICATION GOAL IS TO
COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER. AND
WHEN WE TURN THAT GOAL INTO
EVERYBODY ELSE LISTENING TO WHAT
THEY'RE SAYING OR OR OR WHAT
THEY'RE REPORTING OR WHERE THEY
SEE SEE DANGER. NOT ONLY DOES
THAT IF THAT'S BROADCAST OUT, WE
GET A TON OF MISINFORMATION,
WHICH WE GET. OH YOU HAVE TO DO
IS LOOK BACK A COUPLE OF WEEKS
AGO. THERE IS INFORMATION AND
MISINFORMATION THAT WAS COMING
OUT. AND SOME OF THAT
INFORMATION THAT GETS OUT CAN
ALSO BE AH! BY BY FAMILY
MEMBERS. THAT NO, THAT THEY HAVE
THEIR PERSON THERE THAT THAT'S
THAT'S THE LOCATION WHERE THEIR
LOVED ONE LIVES. THEY'RE
BASICALLY GETTING A DEFACTO
NOTIFICATION BEFORE OF THE
DEMISE OF THEIR PERSON, THEIR
RELATIVE SO THOSE TYPES OF
INFORMATION I DON'T SEE WHY IT'S
SO CRITICAL TO HAVE THEM OUT.
IMMEDIATELY. BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT
WE USED TO HAVE WAS THE WE USED
TO ENJOY A LITTLE BIT OF LAPSE
BETWEEN WHAT WHAT WE'RE SEEING
AND WHAT WENT OUT, BUT NOW
THERE'S NO LAPSE. NOW LET'S
FACEBOOK NOW IT'S TWITTER. YOU
KNOW, NOW WE HAVE YOU KNOW AS
SOON AS SOMEBODY IS DISPATCHED,
THE NEWS AGENCY HAS DISPATCHED
AND BELIEVE ME, WE HAVE GREAT
NEWS AGENCIES OUT THERE THEY
WOULD. THEY WOULD COME UP. THEY
WERE COOPERATIVE. BUT THEN THERE
WAS SOME THAT WEREN'T SO
COOPERATIVE. AND THEY'RE GIVING
OUT INFORMATION. THEY SHOULDN'T
BE GIVEN OUT. AND THAT ENDANGERS
THE LIVES OF OUR PUBLIC SAFETY
PEOPLE. UM LIKE I SAID,
COMMUNICATIONS IS HIGHLY HIGHLY
COMPLEX. NOW WE CAN'T MAKE IT
MORE COMPLEX. IF WE DO, WE'RE
REDUCING THE SAFETY OF THE
PEOPLE THAT ARE TRYING TO DO A
JOB OUT THERE. PEOPLE WILL GET
THE INFORMATION THEY NEED FROM
THE NEWS AGENCIES. THE NEW J
NEWS AGENCIES WILL GET ACCURATE
INFORMATION IF THEY WOULD JUST
WAIT THAT LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO
GET IT. BUT I DON'T SEE HOW THIS
BILL ENHANCES. THE POLICE
OFFICER'S SAFETY OUT THERE AND
THE ABILITY FOR THEM TO DO THEIR
JOB. AND SO I HAVE GRAVE
CONCERNS ABOUT MESSING WITH
THAT. I THINK THE AGENCY'S THE
NEWS AGENCIES ARE ALREADY PRIVY
TO THE INFORMATION THAT THEY
NEED. AND YOU CAN GET THERE. BUT
I ALMOST SEEMS LIKE WHAT I FEEL
LIKE THEY'RE SEEKING IS BEING
ABLE TO FERRET OUT WHICH ONES
ARE WORTH GOING TO AND WHICH
ONES ARE SO WHEN WE GET
DISPATCHED ON A CALL, THEY COULD
HERO HOUSE FIRE PEOPLE TRAPPED,
BUT THEN WHEN WE PULL UP AND GO,
ACTUALLY, IT'S A TRASH FIRE.
THEY CAN PULL OFF. BECAUSE THEY
DON'T WANT TO GO COVER THE TRASH
FIRE. BUT WHEN THERE IS AN
INCIDENT, AND THEN THEY HEAR
THERE'S A GUNMAN AND THERE'S A
BARRICADE. THEN THAT'S SOMETHING
THEY WANT TO GET TO, AND THEY
WANT TO START REPORTING ON AND
WHEN THEY START REPORTING ON IT.
EVERYBODY KNOWS ABOUT IT. AND
THEN EVERYBODY ELSE STARTS TO
COME TO THE COME TO THE AREA.
WHEN THEY SHOULDN'T BE SO WE'RE
REALLY PLAYING WITH A BALANCE
HERE AND I LAND ALWAYS ON THE
SIDE OF MAKING SURE THAT THE
OFFICERS AND THE PEOPLE THERE
PROTECTING ARE SAFE, AND THIS
CREATES MORE CHAOS THAN IT
SEEMS. SO THEREFORE I REALLY
WOULD CAN'T SUPPORT THIS. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU, MR SARTO. ANY
OTHER COMMENTS? QUESTIONS YOU
MAKE CLOTHES? THANK YOU. I'LL
JUST JUST A COUPLE OF POINTS AND
I THINK THAT COMMITTEE ANALYSIS
DID DID A GOOD JOB. ON THIS AS
WELL. I JUST WANT TO SAY
SENSITIVE TO CONCERNS. CERTAINLY
OFFICER SAFETY IS PARAMOUNT AND
I AGREE WITH YOU. WE DON'T NEED
MORE COMPLEXITY AND FISH.
UNFORTUNATELY ORIGINAL DOJ
MEMBER, I THINK MEMO, ACTUALLY,
TO THE POINT OF OUR OPPOSITION.
MM ACTUALLY CREATED THAT
COMPLEXITY. SO JUST TO BRING US
BACK, YOU KNOW, TO THE POINT
WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THE POINT
HERE WAS REALLY NEVER ABOUT THIS
SAFETY ISSUE IS REALLY ABOUT
THIS PERSONALLY IDENTIFIABLE
INFORMATION. AND THAT'S REALLY
WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS
STRIKE THAT BALANCE BETWEEN
GIVING ACCESS TO THE MEDIA AND
TO THE PUBLIC AND PROTECTING
PERSONAL IDENTIFIABLE
INFORMATION. AND SO THAT'S WHY I
THINK WE STRUCTURED IT THIS WAY.
THAT'S WHY I THINK PERAK IS
NEUTRAL AT THIS POINT, BECAUSE
WE'VE SAID IS IF YOU'VE
ENCRYPTED WE UNDERSTAND WE'RE
GONNA PROVIDE WAYS FOR YOU TO,
UM TO PROVIDE ACCESS WITHOUT DE
ENCRYPTING AND THEN FOR EVERYONE
ELSE. WE JUST WANT TO CLARIFY.
THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO ENCRYPT,
AND THERE ARE IN FACT AGENCIES
THAT DO HAVE MULTI CHANNEL
ENCRYPTION RIGHT NOW. THAT YOU
CAN CREATE OTHER WAYS TO PROTECT
PERSON IDENTIFYING INFORMATION
WHILE STILL GIVING ACCESS TO THE
PUBLIC AND WITH THAT ARE
STRICTLY ASK FOR MY VOTE. THANK
YOU AND THIS TOWN, SO YOU HAVE
LIKE THREE BARRIERS ONE JUST A
DISCUSSION OF UH, THE FBI LETTER
AND INTERPRETATION BY DOJ AND
HOPE YOU CAN GET THAT BECAUSE I
WILL TELL YOU TO GET IT OUT OF
THIS. THIS BODY. YOU HAVE THAT
CHALLENGE, BUT PROBABLY THE
MOST. IMPORTANT ONE IS GETTING
OUT OF APPROPRIATIONS AND
RESOLVING WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS
GOING TO COST MILLIONS AND
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO LAW
ENFORCEMENT. COULD BE WILL BE
VERY IMPORTANT. UH, TO MOVE
FORWARD. I THINK YOU CAN
OVERCOME THAT THAT HILL ALSO
HEAR FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT
TECHNOLOGY ITSELF. THEY WANT TO
WORK WITH YOU. AND I COULD BE
WRONG, BUT THAT'S WHAT I KIND OF
HEARD TO TRY TO COME UP WITH A,
UM, A SYSTEM THAT WOULD NOT
PRESENT A DANGER TO LAW
ENFORCEMENT, WHICH I AGREE WITH
THEM ON. AND MOST IMPORTANT TO
BE ABLE TO GET WHAT YOU'RE
TRYING TO GET TO, UM SO
HOPEFULLY YOU CAN GET THERE.
OTHERWISE I THINK YOU HAVE A
REALLY, REALLY DIFFICULT TIME.
ONCE YOU GET OUT OF THIS
COMMITTEE IF YOU GET OUT OF THIS
COMMITTEE TO GET OUT OF PROBES
AND THEN OFF THE FLOOR. SO IF WE
CAN RESOLVE THOSE, I THINK YOUR
YOUR CHANCES OF GETTING THIS
BILL TO THE GOVERNOR'S DESK ARE
GOOD. WITH THAT. TEACHERS
REQUEST AND I VOTE AND COLORADO
AND SB 1000 BY SENATOR BECKER.
THE MOTION IS PASSED TO THE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE. JOHN
SAWYER, JOHN SAWYER, I LACKEY.
LATINO BANTA BANTA, I, BRIAN.
QUIRK QUIRK I SANTIAGO SEYARTO
TOÀN Ó. THAT MEASURES DON'T
CALL. MR BRADFORD SP 13 71
PRISON WAGES.
PICKLED PEOPLE.
WHENEVER YOU'RE READY, MR. THANK
YOU. I'M HERE TO PRESENT 13 71,
WHICH WILL REQUIRE THE SECRETARY
OF THE CDCR TO INCREASE PAY
SCALE FOR THOSE WORKING AND
WHILE INCARCERATED OVER FIVE
YEAR PERIOD TO BUILD REQUIRES
THAT WE ADJUST THE PAY SCALE BE
THERE JUST TO PAY SCALE BE
RAISED TO ACTUALLY ALLOW FOR
INCARCERATED INDIVIDUALS, AMONG
OTHER THINGS TO AFFORD QUARTERLY
PACKAGES PURCHASED EDUCATION
MATERIALS ARE MAINTAINED FAMILY
CONNECTIONS WHILE AH,
INCARCERATED THERE ROUGHLY
58,000 INCARCERATED PEOPLE WHO
ARE ASSIGNED JOBS THAT, FOR THE
MOST PART, HELPED MAINTAIN AND
OPERATE OUR STATE PRISONS, AND
IT CAN VARY FROM MAINTENANCE CAN
STORE YOUR WORD FOODSERVICE,
CLERICAL AND CONSTRUCTION. THESE
INDIVIDUALS AVERAGE. ON AVERAGE
, EIGHT CENTS PER HOUR, WHICH
COMES UP TO ABOUT $144 A YEAR
WHICH WE ALL AGREE IS NOTHING IN
IT FALLS IN THE LINES OF WHAT
SENATOR KAMLAGER IS DOING WITH A
C 83 OF ELIMINATING. INVOLUNTARY
SERVITUDE AND WHICH IS, IN
ADDITION, I MEAN, ACTUALLY
MODERN DAY SLAVERY, SO AND THESE
WAGES ARE VERY MUCH LIKE THAT AS
WELL. THIS IS EXPLOITATIVE AND
UNACCEPTABLE AND HAS MADE IT
INCREASINGLY INCREASINGLY
DIFFICULT FOR INCARCERATED
PEOPLE TO PAY FOREIGN CENTRAL
ITEMS AND HAVE FUN TO STAYING IN
CONTACT WITH THEIR FAMILIES. AS
A RESULT, MANY INCARCERATED
PEOPLE ARE FORTUNATE. LEAN ON
LOVED ONES. FOR FINANCIAL
SUPPORT. BOTH THE WAGE WAGES
EARNED BY INMATES AND THE MONEY
THAT'S PUT INTO AN IMAGE TRUST
ACCOUNT BY FAMILY OR LOVED ONE
IS SUBJECT TO 50% BEING TAKEN
TAKING. TAKEN TOWARDS
RESTITUTION. BUT PROVIDING
INCARCERATE PEOPLE WITH A FAIR
WAGE. 13 71 CAN HELP PEOPLE FIND
FINANCIAL INDEPENDENCE. PAY MORE
TOWARDS RESTITUTION, AFFORD
CANTEEN ITEMS. AND HAVE A MEANS
TO STAY IN CONTACT WITH THEIR
FAMILY AND SAVE MONEY FOR
REENTRY EXPENSES TO TESTIFY
TODAY IS JUST YOU DID RIGHT?
YOUR C DRUM. SORRY GOD, I'M IT'S
FOREHAND, RIGHT? C DRA. AUSBY.
RIGHT? WHICH SISTERS WARRIORS
FREEDOM COALITION AND SEAN
HOLMES FOR ANTI INCENTIVE IS,
UM, COALITION BILL. THANK YOU.
AS VICE BY PARTNER SUPPORT AND
ASK FOR YOUR VOTE. WHENEVER
YOU'RE READY, BEGIN. YOU BOTH
HAVE TOTALFIVE MINUTES, TWO
MINUTES APIECE OR WHATEVER WAY
YOU WANT TO SPLIT IT UP. GOOD
MORNING CHAIR AND COMMITTEE
MEMBERS. I MISS EAGER OSBY, CO
FOUNDER OF SISTER WARRIORS
FREEDOM COALITION, PROUD CO
SPONSOR OF SB13 71, CONSTITUENT
OF KERN COUNTY. WHILE
INCARCERATED, I WAS FORCED TO
WORK A DIVERSE SELECTION OF JOBS
WITH PAY RATES RANGING FROM 0 TO
15 CENTS AN HOUR. I CUT THE
GRASS ON YOUR CREW. I DID
CANTING PURCHASING OUR AND OUR
CLERK AND EDUCATION ASSISTANCE.
ALL THE JOBS EQUATED TO $10 OR
LESS MONTHLY. THE REALIZATION OF
WALKING AWAY FROM THE CANTEEN
WINDOW WITH TWO BARS OF SOAP.
WANT TO PASTE AND ONE POSTAGE
STAMP IMPACTED MY VERY
EXISTENCE. AS A BLACK WOMAN.
INDEPENDENCE IS KEY. BEING SELF
RELIANT IS IMPORTANT TO ME. BUT
WITH SLAVE WAGES. I HAD TO CALL
HOME FOR FINANCIAL SUPPORT.
BECAUSE I COULDN'T PROVIDE FROM
MY VERY OWN BASIC NEEDS AS AN
ADULT. THE REALIZATION THAT I
WORKED EVERY SINGLE DAY. FULL
TIME HOURS. NO MEDICAL BENEFITS
OR SICK TIME WAS ALARMING. AND
NO OPPORTUNITY TO SAVE MONEY TO
PLAN FOR SUCCESSFUL.
THANK YOU. WHENEVER YOU'RE
READY. GOOD MORNING SHARE AND
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. MY
NAME IS SHAUN ROBINSON. I AM A
LIFE CULTURE, A R. C ANTI
RECIDIVISM COALITION AS WELL AS
A MEMBER OF SISTER WARRIORS OF
THE YOUNG WOMEN'S FREEDOM
CENTER. AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK
AND SUPPORT OF SB 13 71. ANTI
RECIDIVISM COALITION, UM, WORKS
TO END MASS INCARCERATION. UM IN
CALIFORNIA. TO ENSURE OUR
COMMITTEES ARE SAFE, HEALTHY AND
WHOLE. AIR SEA EMPOWERS FORMERLY
AND CURRENTLY ACROSS THE RATED
PEOPLE TO THRIVE BY PROVIDING A
SUPPORT NETWORK COMPREHENSIVE
SERVICES. AH AND OPPORTUNITIES
TO ADVOCATE FOR POLICY CHANGE.
WE ARE DEDICATED TO TRANSFORMING
THE CARIBBEAN, THE CRIMINAL
JUSTICE SYSTEM TO BE MORE JUST
AND EQUITABLE FOR ALL PEOPLE WHO
ARE GRASSROOTS POLICY ADVOCACY.
WE PROVIDE CAREER DEVELOPMENT
TRAINING AND CONNECT OUR MEMBERS
TO EMPLOYMENT, EDUCATION,
HOUSING AND OTHER OPPORTUNITIES
TO HELP THEM ACQUIRE. THE SKILLS
AND SOCIAL CAPITAL NECESSARY TO
SUPPORT THEMSELVES AND THEIR
FAMILIES. WOW AVOIDING MANY OF
THE DIFFICULTIES THAT BEFALL
INDIVIDUALS WITH CONVICTION
HISTORIES. THE ANTI RECIDIVISM
COALITION ALSO PROVIDES
REHABILITATION AND RE ENTRY
SUPPORT. FOR INCARCERATED MEN
AND WOMEN AS WELL AS YOUTH.
POPULATION THROUGH ITS HOPE AND
REDEMPTION. AND WOMEN FOR
FREEDOM. PROGRAMS AND SIDE THE
CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF
CORRECTIONS AND REHABILITATION.
WITH STRONG SUPPORT. BOTH DURING
AND AFTER INCARCERATION. R C
MEMBERS HAVE RETURNED HOME AND
DEVELOP. INTO EXTRAORDINARY
LEADERS. AND THEIR FAMILIES AND
COMMUNITIES COMMUNITIES. I SPENT
22 YEARS OF MY LIFE AND THE
PRISON. WALLS AND IN DOING SO. I
WAS ASSIGNED TO JOBS THAT PAID
SINCE ON THE DOLLARS. UM I WAS
UNABLE TO SUPPORT MYSELF.
THEREFORE I HAD TO RELY ON
FAMILY SUPPORT. WHEN YOU ARE
TRYING TO FIND YOUR OWN
INDEPENDENCE AND GROWTH. IT IS
VERY DIFFICULT. TO FEEL. LIKE
YOU HAVE TO RELY ON OUTSIDE
SUPPORT. ESPECIALLY AFTER THE
PAIN I HAVE CAUSED THEM. I WAS
UNABLE TO LEARN WHAT
INDEPENDENCE WAS ALL ABOUT. HOW
I WOULD MANAGE TO SUPPORT MYSELF
BEYOND PRISON AND THE SHAME OF
HAVING TO ASK FAMILY FOR MONEY.
AS AN ADULT. A PERSON SHOULD
HAVE THE RIGHT TO EXPERIENCE
INDEPENDENT BECAUSE IT DOES
AFFECT THE LIVELIHOOD OF PRISON.
FREEDOM. AFTER BEING RELEASED. I
WAS FACED WITH THE HARDSHIP OF
HAVING TO PAY RESTITUTION. IN
WHICH GIVEN THE CHANCE I WOULD
HAVE BEEN ABLE TO PAY OFF MY
RESTITUTION IF I WAS ALLOTTED AN
OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE LIVABLE
WAGES IN PRISON. I WAS LOCKED UP
AT A VERY YOUNG AGE AND DID NOT
GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO PAY
BILLS. LEARN HOW TO MANAGE MONEY
AND OR HOW TO SURVIVE. I HAD
SEVERAL POINTS AGAINST ME UPON
BEING RELEASED. AND ONE WAS
BEING A FELON. BEING ON
KNOWLEDGEABLE. UM ABOUT THE
WORLD THAT WAS UNFAMILIAR TO ME.
ALSO SENT TO SACRAMENTO. IN
WHICH, UM, THIS WAS NOT MY
COMMUNITY. I AM ORIGINALLY FROM
L. A I WILL SIT HERE WHERE I HAD
NO MENTAL, MORAL OR FINANCIAL
SUPPORT. I BELIEVE THAT THE
RIGHT TO LIVELIHOOD SHOULDN'T BE
A PRIVILEGE AND BEING SELF
SUFFICIENT FALLS INTO THAT
CATEGORY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
WILL NOW GO TO THE HEARING ROOM
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT. OF. SP 13
71 BRADFORD. OKAY, SO I WAS HOME
. YOUR NAME AND ORGANIZATION,
PLEASE. LET'S TRY TO SEE NAME
AND ORGANIZATION. GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS LAURIE BAKER. I'M
HERE WITH THE MEMBERS OF THE
SISTER WARRIORS. FELLOW, UM HA!
I CAN'T EVEN REMEMBER. NERVOUS
SISTER WARRIORS. FELLOWSHIP
FREEDOM COALITION, BAKERSFIELD
CHAPTER. WE ARE PROUD CO SPONSOR
OF THE SENATE BILL 13 71 FAIR
AND JUST WAGES FOR CURRENTLY
INCARCERATED WORKERS AND WE ARE
IN STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF
THE COMMITTEE S BAHN NUNEZ ON
BEHALF OF THE ANTI RECIDIVISM
COALITION AND SOCIAL CHANGE,
ALSO PROUD CO SPONSOR OF THIS
BILL, AND I'M ALSO HERE TO
ANSWER ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DAVID
MARKING WITH SC JUSTICE GROUP
AND SUPPORT. GOOD MORNING. MY
NAME IS JESSE APART. UM AND I'M
WITH SIX MEMBERS OF THE SISTER
WARRIORS FREEDOM COALITION
HANFORD CHAPTER. AND WE ARE
PROUD CO SPONSOR OF SB 13 71
FAIR AND JUST WAGES FOR
INCARCERATED WORKERS, AND WE ARE
IN STRONG SUPPORT. THANK MY NAME IS DANIEL
BURRUS. ME AND I'M FROM THE
BAKERSFIELD WARRIORS, CAPTOR,
AND I AM SUPPORTED THIS AND
THIS. THEY NEED A BETTER RIGHT
AND A BETTER CHANCE AT LIFE.
THANK YOU. MARVIN LEGAL SERVICES
FOR PRISONERS WITH CHILDREN AND
SUPPORT. QUÊ HELLO. MY NAME IS
ANGELIQUE EVANS. I'M WITH THE
YOUNG WOMAN'S FREEDOM SYSTEM
CENTER, ALSO A CO FOUNDING
MEMBER SISTER WARRIOR FREEDOM
COALITION, AND WE ARE IN STRONG
SUPPORT AND RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
YOUR ARRIVAL. THANK YOU. MY NAME
IS ARTIST. I'M A COMMUNITY
ORGANIZING FELLOW AT YOUNG
WOMEN'S FREEDOM CENTER, AND I'M
IN FULL SUPPORT. MY NAME IS ANNA
SHOWS I'M ORGANIZER, YOUNG ONES,
FREEDOM CENTER, AND I'M IN FULL
SUPPORT. QUÊ. HI. MY NAME IS
NELLIE NAMA FELLOW AT THE YOUNG
WOMAN'S RESTROOM PRESENTER AND
I'M IN FULL SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS VERONICA. I WORK WITH
THE AT THE YOUNG WOMAN'S FREEDOM
CENTER. I'M A COMMUNITY
ORGANIZER AND I SUPPORT THANK
YOU. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS
KATHRYN BROWN. I'M FROM THE
SISTER WARRIORS. CURRENT COUNTY
CHAPTER. BAKERSFIELD ALSO
FORMERLY INCARCERATED, ARMIN
VERY STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. MY NAME IS ALYSSA
MORE ON MY L S P. C 2022 POLICY
, FELLOW, PROUD MEMBER OF ALL OF
US OR NONE AND I'M FROM THE
OAKLAND CHAPTER, AND WE'RE IN
FULL SUPPORT. GOOD MORNING,
EVERYONE. MY NAME IS TATIANA
LEWIS. I AM L S P C. 2022 POLICY
FELLOW. I AM WITH LEGAL SERVICES
FOR PRISONERS WITH CHILDREN AND
STRONG SUPPORT OF SB 13 71.
THANK YOU. MONNING COMMITTEE
HEAD ONLY MARGIELA HERE, POLICY
ANALYST FOR LEGAL SERVICES FOR
PRISONERS WITH CHILDREN, ALSO
PROUD MEMBER OF ALL OF US OR
NONE AND STRONG SUPPORT OF SB 13
71. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING,
EVERYBODY. MY NAME IS RICARDO
JIMENEZ AND, UM I'M FROM THE
OAKLAND CHAPTER OF COURAGE AND
DREAM BEYOND BOARDS AND I AM
STRONG SUPPORT. EVERYONE. I'M
BRINGING HATTRICK WORK FOR
COURAGE, JIMMY ON BARS COALITION
AND I STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS
BILL. MY NAME'S COLIN MCKELLAR
THOUGHT WORKED WITH COURAGE AND
OAKLAND AREA AND I'M STRONGLY
SUPPORT THIS BILL. HELLO MY NAME
IS PAT FIGUEROA. I AM A
PARTICIPANT IN THE SAN FRANCISCO
YOUNG WOMAN'S FREEDOM CENTER
CHAPTER AND I AM A STRONG
SUPPORT OF BILL. SB 13 71. THANK
YOU. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS AL
DUARTE AND I AM A LEAD SELF
DETERMINATION COORDINATOR WITH
YOUNG WOMEN'S FREEDOM CENTER,
AND I AM STRONGLY SUPPORTING
THIS BILL. ANYONE ELSE IN
SUPPORT. WILL NOT. WELL NOW.
WILL NOW GO TO THE PHONE LINES.
80 AND OPERATOR UM SB 13 71
BRADFORD AND SUPPORT. THANK YOU
. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU
ARE IN SUPPORT OF THIS
LEGISLATION, PRESS 10 WILL GO TO
LINE. 30, PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD
MORNING CHAIR MEMBERS, ANTHONY
DEMARTINO ON BEHALF OF
CALIFORNIANS FOR SAFETY AND
JUSTICE AND TIME DONE IN STRONG
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. NEXT WE GO
TO LINE 14, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
MARK OUT GEORGE ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA PUBLIC DEFENDERS
ASSOCIATION, AND STRONG SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. AND WE HAVE NO OTHER
LINES. YOU MAY CONTINUE CHAIRMAN
THANK YOU. WE'LL NOW BRING IT
BACK TO THE COMMITTEE FOR
QUESTIONS AND COMMENT. OH SORRY,
OPPOSITION. LET'S SKIP RIGHT
OVER HIM AND ANYONE IN
OPPOSITION IN THE HEARING ROOM.
SINGING NUN. WE'LL GO TO THE
PHONE LINES. ANYONE IN
OPPOSITION TO 13 71. BRADFORD S
BEING ANYONE IN OPPOSITION PRESS
10. AND NO ONE IN QUÊ SER.
CLAIRVOYANT OKAY, WE'RE NOW
BRING IT BACK TO COMMITTEE
MEMBERS. ANY QUESTIONS? YES MISS
MONSTER WANT TO THANK THE AUTHOR
AND THAT THE TEST IF IRS HERE
TODAY SPEAKING YOUR TRUTH AND
MAKING IT CLEAR THAT IN ORDER
FOR US TO BE ABLE TO HAVE ACTUAL
JUSTICE, WE NEED TO ENSURE THAT
WHEN WE ARE INCARCERATED, WE
HAVE THE ABILITY TO AS YOU SIT
STATED, BE INDEPENDENT, BE ABLE
TO THRIVE AND SUPPORT OUR
FAMILIES AND OURSELVES AND
ENSURE THAT WE HAVE BASIC NEEDS
ATTENDANT TO WHILE WE'RE THERE.
THROUGH OUR OWN WORK. SO THANK
YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY AND
THANK YOU TO THE AUTHOR FOR
BRINGING FORWARD THIS BILL. QUÊ
YES, MR SARTO. SO UM, I ALSO
WANT TO THANK THE AUTHOR FOR
BRINGING THIS, UM, APPROACH
FORWARD. BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE
WHEN YOU'RE READING SOME OF THE
THINGS THAT THAT'S THERE'S HAS
THEM BE ABLE TO DO AFFORD
QUARTERLY PACKAGES MAINTAINED
FAMILY CONNECTIONS, BUT NOT
INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED. THE
ABILITY OF PURCHASE ENVELOPES,
STAMPS, WRITING PAPER WRITING
INSTRUMENTS. ABILITY AFFORD
PHONE CALLS AND PURCHASE
EDUCATIONAL MATERIALS. THOSE ARE
ALL THE TYPES OF ISSUES THAT
WHEN A PERSON FINDS THEMSELVES
IN THE UNFORTUNATE POSITION OF
BEING INCARCERATED, WE WOULD
LIKE THEM. TO BE ABLE TO DO
THOSE THINGS TO HELP NORMALIZE
PART OF THAT, BUT ALSO TO BE
ABLE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
PREPARE THEMSELVES SO WHEN
THEY'RE NOT INCARCERATED. AND TO
THAT END WE'VE HEARD BILLS
BEFORE ON MANY OF THESE SUBJECT
ITEMS AND THE ONE THING THAT
KEEPS COMING BACK TO ME IS THE
ABILITY TO EARN ENOUGH TO BE
ABLE TO GET OUT. AND HAVE WE
TALKED ABOUT THAT? $200 I THINK
IT WAS A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO AND
RAISING THAT TO $1300. WELL IT
WOULD BE NICE IF THEY WERE AS AS
PEOPLE WHO ARE INCARCERATED.
WORKED AND CONTRIBUTED TO
REDUCING THE COSTS FOR, UM, THE
SYSTEM ITSELF BY DOING SOME OF
THIS THIS LABOR THAT THEY WERE
COMPENSATED. FAIRLY DOESN'T
NECESSARILY MEAN WHAT YOU WOULD
DO ON THE OUTSIDE. BUT FAIRLY SO
THAT THEY COULD SAVE THAT MONEY
UP AND THEY WOULD HAVE MONEY
WHEN THEY WHEN THEY LEFT, UM,
THAT THEY COULD HAVE A BANK
ACCOUNT WHEN THEY LEFT THAT THEY
HAD EARNED AND, UH AND I THINK
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE
LAUDABLE AND I THINK A LOT OF
PEOPLE WOULD SUPPORT THAT. SO
I'LL BE SUPPORTING YOUR BILL
TODAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU ANY
OTHER COMMENTS? YOU MAY CLOSE,
MR BRADFORD. THANK YOU, MR
CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS. THIS IS A
COMMON SENSE MEASURE, WHICH
TRULY ACT SIMPLY FOR DIGNITY AND
RESPECT. OF AN INDIVIDUAL SIMPLY
BECAUSE YOU'RE INCARCERATED
DOESN'T MAKE YOU. UM AN
INDENTURED SERVANT TO THE STATE.
AND THIS BILL IS IN LINE AGAIN
WITH A C 83. WE JUST SUPPORTED
AND CELEBRATED JUNETEENTH, THE
LIBERATION OF ENSLAVED PEOPLE,
AND THIS FALLS IN THOSE LINES OF
THAT CONTINUED LIBERATION BY
ALLOWING FOLKS TO NOT MAKE A
LIVABLE WAGE, BUT A WAGE THAT IS
HAS SOME LEVEL OF DIGNITY AGAIN
. SOME LEVEL OF INDEPENDENCE
WERE AGAIN THEY CAN PROVIDE. FOR
THEMSELVES WHILE INCARCERATED,
WHETHER IT'S LEARNING MATERIALS
, TOILETRIES, TOOTHPASTE, YOU
NAME IT. THIS IS ALL THE SPILLS
ABOUT. AND WHEN YOU EVEN TALK
ABOUT THE GATE MONEY WHEN
INDIVIDUALS LEAVE PRISON AND A
LEAVE WITH $200, A GREAT THAT
WAS SET IN 1973. IT'S NOT A
SINGLE PERSON HERE WHO WOULD
WORK FOR WHAT PEOPLE WERE
EARNING IN 1973. AND AGAIN
SIMPLY BECAUSE YOU'RE AH, IN
PRISON DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU
LOSE YOUR RIGHT AND YOUR RESPECT
AND DIGNITY AND I NEED FOR SOME
TYPE OF FINANCIAL SUPPORT, SO
THIS MEASURE JUST SIMPLY PUTS US
IN LINE WITH, UH JUSTICE AND
FAIRNESS AND I RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR I VOTE. AND THANK YOU, MR
BRADFORD BRINGING THIS FORWARD.
UM AND I WANT TO THANK THE
WITNESSES FOR COMING FORWARD.
IT'S A LOT OF COURAGE. THE CAMP
BEFORE. THIS PANEL AND SPEAK AS
ONE MEMBER SAID THE TRUTH. AND
SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT YOUR TRUTH
AND LET US KNOW WHAT WHAT YOU'VE
GONE THROUGH UNTIL I WANT TO
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. I
THINK EVERYONE CAN KIND OF AGREE
IF WE WERE TO DO A COST BENEFIT
ANALYSIS. OF WHAT SLAVES MADE.
AND WHAT PRISONERS ARE GETTING
PAID SLAVES PROBABLY MADE MORE
MONEY. SO THAT'S HOW BAD THIS IS
, AND THAT'S WHY IT'S SO
IMPORTANT THAT THE LEGISLATION
THAT'S COMING OUT THAT'S
ADDRESSING THIS RIGHT NOW IS
STILL IMPORTANT. SO AGAIN, THANK
THE OFFICER FOR BRINGING THIS
FORWARD. BECAUSE IT'S LONG
OVERDUE 73 TO 70. I MEAN, YOU
CAN'T EVEN ARGUE THAT ONE. AND
SO THE CHAIRS RECOMMENDING I
VOTE. COLD ROLLED. ON SB 13 71
BY SENATOR BRADFORD. THE MOTION
IS DUE PASSED TO THE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE. JOHN
SAWYER. I LACKEY LACKEY. I BEGAN
TO SANTA I, BRIAN. QUIRK
SANTIAGO SANTIAGO CR TO CR TELL
AYE. THAT MEASURE PASSES,
SENATOR BRAD THANK YOU, MR
MAYOR, CHAIR AND COMMITTEE
MEMBERS. THE WAY SHE WAS SAYING,
MARY, GIVE ME IN TROUBLE. MR
SENATOR BRADFORD, DON'T GET ME
IN TROUBLE.
MOST INTERESTING RELATION. MR
SANTIAGO, WOULD YOU PRESENT FOR
MR HUESO? SB 13 59.
AND THANK YOU, MR CHAIRMAN,
PROCEED. WHENEVER YOU'RE READY.
THANKS MR CHAIR MEMBERS TODAY
I'M PRESENTING SP 13 59 ON
BEHALF OF SENATOR WEST. SO THIS
BILL BROKE OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT
TO CHECK FOR CURRENT
REGISTRATION BEFORE SITE BEFORE
WRITING A CITATION. FOR MISSING
LICENSE LICENSE LICENSE PLATE
TAB. THE TAB IS A STICKER ON THE
LICENSE PLATE SHOWING THAT THE
VEHICLE REGISTRATION IS VALID
UNTIL SPECIFIC DATE WITH THIS
BILL IF THE REGISTRATION IS
CURRENT, WHEN AN OFFICER CHECKS
THE D. M V RECORDS, NO CITATION
WILL BE WRITTEN BY LAW
ENFORCEMENT. EXISTING LAW ALLOWS
AN OFFICER TO ISSUE A CITATION
WHEN VEHICLE IS HAS NO TAB OR AN
EXPIRED TAB. THE OFFICER IS NOT
REQUIRED TO CHECK STATE RECORDS
TO DETERMINE IF THE REGISTRATION
WAS IN FACT CURRENT OR BEFORE
ISSUING A TICKET. STICKERS ARE
TOO EASILY REMOVED. AND THE
FAILURE OF THIS OF THIS 19
SEVENTIES TECHNOLOGY IMPACTS
EVERYONE AT SOME POINT IF YOU OR
SOMEONE ELSE MAY ALSO HAVE THEIR
STATUS SORRY. MY MASK IS MAKING
ME STUDIED TAB STOLEN. UM IN
FACT, I'LL JUST CUT HERE FOR A
SECOND. THAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED
TO ME WHERE I WHERE I HAD A
NUMBER OF YEARS AGO. I THINK IT
WAS A YEAR 15 WHERE I HAD MY TAB
TAKEN, AND I GOT A CITATION. AND
OF COURSE, I GOT TO DRIVE MY
VEHICLE ANYWAYS, AND I GOT A
SECOND CITATION. UNTIL I WAS
ABLE TO GET A TAB AND THEN HAD
TO GO TO COURT TO SHOW THAT I
ACTUALLY HAD THIS REGISTRATION,
WHICH WHICH COSTS ME MONEY, A
LOT OF HERITAGE, UH, HEADACHE
AND STRETCH AND LUCKILY I HAD A
JOB THAT ALLOWS ME TO GO DO THAT
AND TAKE SOME TIME OFF. BUT NOT
EVERYBODY HAS THAT SORT OF
LUXURY TO SIT AND WAIT IN LINE
FOR NUMBER OF HOURS BEFORE
SOMEBODY CAN ACTUALLY VERIFY
THAT I HAD REGISTRATION, WHICH
IS WHY I AGREED TO TAKE THIS
BUILD UP TO BEGIN WITH. UM I'M
NOT AMEND WHAT HAS BEEN PUT IN
FRONT OF ME JUST TO SAY THAT THE
SENATOR WHISTLES OFFICES BEEN
WORKING WITH CHP, UH, FURNITURE
FOR OTHER AMENDMENTS THAT MAY
HELP THE BETTER THE BILL AND
WHAT IS ESSENTIAL TO KEEP IN
MIND THIS BILL. THAT LAW
ENFORCEMENT CAN STOP ANYONE WHO
DOES NOT HAVE A TAB JUST SIMPLY
BECAUSE THE LAW REQUIRES AND
WILL STILL REQUIRE THE VEHICLE
TO BE PROPERLY LICENSED,
INCLUDING IN THE FIXED TAB. I
WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING
ME TO PRESENT ON BEHALF OF THE
SENATOR, AND WE RESPECTFULLY
ASTRONAUT VOTE. AND YOU HAVE ANY
WITNESSES? I DON'T BELIEVE THAT
I HAVE A WITNESS. THEM WELL. GO
TO THE PHONE LINES. 18 T
OPERATORS, WITNESSES AND WE'LL
LET ME START HEARING WITNESSES
AND SUPPORT IN THE HEARING ROOM.
SEE NONE OF THE WITNESSES AND
SUPPORT ON THE PHONE LINES
EITHER TESTIFYING AND OR NAME
AND ORGANIZATION. LADIES AND
GENTLEMEN IN SUPPORT PRESS 10
WILL GO TO LINE 14 GO AHEAD,
PLEASE. CAMPAIGN. MARCO GEORGIA
ON BEHALF OF CALIFORNIA PUBLIC
DEFENDERS ASSOCIATION AND
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
AND NO OTHER LINES. YOU MAY
CONTINUE WITNESSES AND
OPPOSITION THERE IN THE HEARING
ROOM RIGHT NOW. SEEING NONE. UH
TNT OPERATOR WILL GO TO
WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION ON THE
PHONE. ON THE PHONE IF YOU ARE
IN OPPOSITION PRESS 10. AND
THERE IS NO ONE YOU MAY PROCEED.
AND I'LL BRING IT BACK TO
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. ANY
QUESTIONS, MR LACKEY? YEAH, I
HAVE AN ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO BE
SHARED. I KNOW YOU'RE NOT THE
AUTHOR AND NEEDS TO BE SHARED
WITH SENATOR, UH, HUESO THAT.
PARKING VIOLATIONS. ARE NOT
ADDRESSED IN THIS PARTICULAR
PIECE OF LEGISLATION AND NEED TO
BE BECAUSE VERY OFTEN IN THOSE
PARKING VIOLATIONS. AH! THEY
ADDRESS THIS PARTICULAR
VIOLATION. I'M NOT HAVING THE
PROPER REGISTRATION. DISPLAYED
ON THE VEHICLE. AND IT'S NOT
ADDRESSED IN THIS LEGISLATION IN
ANY WAY, AND I THINK THAT'S JUST
AN OVERSIGHT. THAT NEEDS TO BE
ADDRESSED AND CLARIFIED THAT
THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM. I'LL BRING
IT UP TO IN TERMS OF IF YOU
DON'T MR CHAIRMAN ANSWER. YES.
GO AHEAD. AW BRING THAT ISSUE
UP. I ALSO KNOW THAT THAT I
THINK YOUR OFFICE HAD INQUIRED
WHETHER IT UM WHETHER IT YES, I
WILL ADDRESS I WILL BRING THAT
ISSUE BACK UP TO THE AUTHOR TO
SEE WHAT WHETHER THIS IS
SOMETHING THEY NEED TO ADDRESS
AND HAVE THEM COMMUNICATE WITH
YOUR OFFICE. ON THE OTHER ISSUE
OF WHETHER, UH, PARKING
NFORCEMENT UM I KNOW YOU COULD
OR COULD NOT BE INCLUDED IN
THIS. WE WE'VE ASKED THE AUTHORS
OFFICE AND THEY SAID THAT THEY
WOULD LOOK FORWARD TO
POTENTIALLY AMENDING THAT TO
MAKE SURE THAT THAT ACTUALLY IS
COVERED IN A SEPARATE QUESTION
THAT YOUR OFFICE HAD ASKED OURS,
BUT ON THE FIRST QUESTION, WE'LL
BRING THAT UP. THANK YOU ANY
OTHER QUESTIONS? YOU MAY CLOSE,
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR MY VOTE. DO
WE GET I NEED A MOTION. IN A
SECOND. MHM. YES. ON SB 13 59 BY
SENATOR WESSEL. THE MOTION IS
DUE PASS TO THE APPROPRIATIONS
COMMITTEE. JOAN SAWYER, JOHN
SAWYER. I LÀ K NOT VOTING
BONTA. I WANT TO BUY BRIAN
BRIAN. I QUIRK. QUIRK. AYE.
SANTIAGO. SANTIAGO, I SAY ARE
TOO THEY ARE TÔI. THAT MEASURE
PASSES. THANK YOU NOW. NEXT,
WE'LL DO ADD ONS. LIFTING UP
LIFTING OF CALLS AND VOTE
CHANGES. AT A SECRETARY GO
THROUGH ALL THE MEASURES TAKEN
UP TODAY ON THE CONSENT
CALENDAR. BRIAN BRIAN I.
SANTIAGO. SANTIAGO. AYE. ITEM
NUMBER ONE WAS ON CONSENT. ITEM
NUMBER TWO WAS PULLED BY THE
AUTHOR. ITEM NUMBER THREE. SB 9
90 BY SENATOR WEST SO THIS
MEASURE WAS ON CALL BRIAN BRIAN
I. SANTIAGO SANTIAGO I THAT
MEASURE PASSES ITEM FOUR WAS
JUST DISPENSE WITH ITEM NUMBER
FIVE. SB 1000 BY SENATOR BECKER.
THIS MEASURE WAS ON CALL BRIAN
BRIAN I. SANTIAGO SANTIAGO I
THAT MEASURE NOW PASSES ITEM
NUMBER SIX WAS PULLED BY
COMMITTEE NUMBER SEVEN WAS
PULLED BY THE AUTHOR. ITEM
NUMBER EIGHT SP 13 71 BY SENATOR
BRADFORD BRIAN BRIAN, I. ITEM
NUMBER NINE WAS PULLED BY THE
AUTHOR. I REMEMBER 10 WITH ONE
CONSENT ITEM NUMBER, 11 WAS ON
CONSENT. THIS CONCLUDES THE
BUSINESS FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY
COMMITTEE TODAY.