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OKAY GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE.
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WE'RE GOING TO GET STARTED AS A
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SUBCOMMITTEE. AS YOU ALL KNOW,
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WE HAVE HANDFUL OF HOUSEKEEPING
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ANNOUNCEMENTS TO MAKE. WELL
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WELCOME, EVERYONE. WE'RE
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CONVENING THE ASSEMBLY COMMITTEE
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ON UTILITIES AND ENERGY.
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SERGEANT, PLEASE CALL THE ABSENT
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MEMBERS. BEFORE WE MOVED TO THE
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AGENDA. I HAVE A FEW
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HOUSEKEEPING ANNOUNCEMENTS TO
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MAKE TODAY WE HAVE 15 BILLS ON
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THE AGENDA. WE WILL HAVE SOME
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NUMBER OF PHÊN TEMPORARILY
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FILLING THE VACANCY ON OUR
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COMMITTEE TODAY, AND WE'LL
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WELCOME HIM WHEN HE ARRIVES.
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PRIME ANY PRIMARY WITNESSES MUST
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APPEAR IN PERSON. PHON LINES
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WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR ME TO IS
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ONLY CALLING NUMBER FOR THIS
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HEARING IS 877692. 8957 AND THE
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ACCESS CODE IS 1315437. CAN ALSO
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FIND THIS NUMBER ON THE ASSEMBLY
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UTILITIES AND ENERGY COMMITTEE
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WEBSITE. AS WELL AS ON THE TV
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SCREEN IF YOU'RE HAVING ANY
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PROBLEMS, THE MODERATED PHONE
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SERVICE YOU CAN CALL THE
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COMMITTEE AT 9163192. THE RATE
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THREE AND OUR TEAM WILL BE THERE
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TO BE HELPFUL. AS I MENTIONED WE
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HAVE 15 MEASURES ON THE AGENDA
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TOUR ON THE CONSENT. AS WE
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PROCEED WITH WITNESSES AND
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PUBLIC COMMENT. I WANT TO MAKE
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SURE EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THE
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ASSEMBLY HAS RULES TO ENSURE WE
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MAINTAIN ORDER AND RUN,
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INEFFICIENT AND FAIR MEETING.
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TESTIMONY IS LIMITED TO FOUR
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MINUTES TOTAL TWO MINUTES
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SUPPORT TWO MINUTES IN
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OPPOSITION. FOR ANY ADDITIONAL
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WITNESSES. ON THE MEASURE, ONLY
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STATE YOUR NAME, POSITION AND
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AFFILIATION. WE WILL LIMIT THE
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REMOTE COMMENTS PERIOD FOR THIS
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HEARING, WHERE WITNESSES ONLY
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STATE THEIR NAME, POSITION AND
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AFFILIATION, AND WE'RE GOING TO
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JUST SET A TIME OF 20 MINUTES
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PER BILL. IF WE EXCEED THIS
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TIME, PLEASE SUBMIT YOUR
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TESTIMONY THROUGH THE EMAIL
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ADDRESS ON OUR WEBSITE. AND
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THOSE ARE OUR HOUSEKEEPING
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RULES. DO WE HAVE ANY AUTHORS?
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ALL RIGHT, SENATOR. AS I
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MENTIONED, WE WILL START AS A
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SUBCOMMITTEE. AND. APOLOGIZE IN
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ADVANCE IF WE INTERRUPT THE
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PRESENTATION TO ESTABLISH A
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QUORUM, BUT SENATOR THE FLOOR IS
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YOURS. YOU. HAIR. AND I HAVE
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BUILT. MM. YES, MA'AM. YES, SIR.
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GOOD. WELL, THANK YOU, UM IT'S
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UH. YOU WILL KNOW. MR CHAIRMAN
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STATED. WE CAN'T GET 200 CLEAN
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ENERGY OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS
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WITHOUT BUILDING THE
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TRANSMISSION NECESSARY TO
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DELIVER THAT CLEAN POWER TO OUR
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CITIES. SO THIS BILL IS ABOUT
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ACCELERATING PLANNING AND
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APPROVALS WERE TRANSMISSION.
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PROJECTS THAT WE CAN GET NEW,
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CLEAN ENERGY CONNECTED TO THE
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GRID AND DELIVERED WHERE IT'S
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NEEDED. THE JOINT HDS SP 100
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REPORT ESTIMATED THAT WE WILL
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NEED TRIPLE THE STATE'S ELECTRIC
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GENERATION CAPACITY. BY 2045. UM. OKAY SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE ONLY
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APPROVED NEW TRANSMISSION IF
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IT'S JUSTIFIED BY THE FORECAST.
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IT GETS FROM THE CCMP C AND
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THOSE FORECASTS HAVE BEEN
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INADEQUATE. SO SB 887 WILL FIX
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THAT PROBLEM. AND, UH, SO I AM
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ACCEPTING THE COMMITTEE
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AMENDMENTS THAT WANTED TO NOTE
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AND THANK THE COMMITTEE AND
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OTHER STAKEHOLDERS FOR
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IDENTIFYING IMPORTANT
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CLARIFICATIONS AND TECHNICAL
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IMPROVEMENTS OF THIS BILL. I
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ALSO THANK. ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
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CUNNINGHAM AND MAIZE RAISING THE
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IMPORTANCE OF THIS ISSUE, UH, IN
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SOLVING THESE TRANSMISSION
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CONSTRAINTS WITH CHI SO, UH, IN
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THEIR EFFORTS LAST YEAR, THEIR
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IDEAS HELFUL IN THE BASIS FOR
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THIS BILL, AND I APPRECIATE
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THAT. THEY LENT THEIR SUPPORT
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EARLY AS AS CO AUTHORS WHEN I
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FIRST INTRODUCED IT, SO, UM WITH
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THAT, I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR I
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VOTE JOINED BY TWO WITNESSES
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HERE. NANCY RADAR FROM
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CALIFORNIA, WINNING AN
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ASSOCIATION AND SMITH FROM SOCAL
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EDISON. GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIR
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GARCIA AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS. MY
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NAME IS NANCY RAIDER, EXECUTIVE
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DIRECTOR OF THE CALIFORNIA WIND
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ENERGY ASSOCIATION ARE MEMBERS
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OWNED AND DEVELOPED PROJECTS
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WITHIN CALIFORNIA'S GRID,
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INCLUDING OFFSHORE WIND
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PROJECTS. IT'S NOT OFTEN THAT
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YOU SEE SUCH A LARGE AND DIVERSE
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GROUP OF SUPPORTERS FOR A BILL
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IN FAVOR OF SB 887, OR UTILITIES
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, CCS, MAJOR AND LOCAL
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ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS,
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ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE GROUPS,
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BUSINESS LABOR AND VARIOUS
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RENEWABLE ENERGY TRADES. TO ME.
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THIS SUPPORT LEVEL SPEAKS TO THE
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FRUSTRATION THAT WE'RE SERIOUSLY
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BEHIND SCHEDULE AND APPROVING
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THE MANY TRANSMISSION PROJECTS
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THAT WE KNOW WILL NEED TO
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ACHIEVE THE STATE'S SP 100
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CLIMATE GOALS. WE CANNOT PLAN
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AND BUILD GEOTHERMAL PROJECTS IN
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IMPERIAL COUNTY OR WIND PROJECTS
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OFF THE NORTH COAST OR SOLAR
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ENERGY IN THE CENTRAL VALLEY. IF
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THE POWER FROM THESE PROJECTS
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CANNOT GET TO WHERE IT'S NEEDED.
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OUR MAJOR URBAN AREAS UNTIL
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TRANSMISSION PROJECTS ARE
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PLANNED AND APPROVED. THESE
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PROJECTS WILL BE STUCK BEHIND
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THE STARTING GATE. THE JOINT
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AGENCY. SB 100 REPORT TO THE
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LEGISLATURE SHOWS THAT EVEN WITH
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SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNTS OF
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DISTRIBUTED GENERATION AND LOAD
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CENTERS, WE SIMPLY CANNOT MEET
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OUR SB 100 GOALS WITHOUT
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BOLSTERING THE TRANSMISSION
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SYSTEM. CAN CONNECT RENEWABLES
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TO POPULATION CENTERS. THE SP
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100 REPORT ALSO SHOWS THAT THIS
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TRANSMISSION IS PART OF THE
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LEAST COST PLAN FOR ACHIEVING%
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OUR CLIMATE GOALS. IN NO WAY IS
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THIS A RADICAL BILL? IT MERELY
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DIRECTS THE PUC TO ASK THE KLS
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SO TO CONSIDER APPROVING
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TRANSMISSION PROJECTS THAT WE
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NEED. IN ITS CURRENT
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TRANSMISSION PLANNING CYCLE. IT
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ALSO REQUIRES THAT WE TAKE A
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LONGER 15 YEAR VIEW IN PLANNING
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, GIVEN THAT TRANSMISSION TAKES
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10 YEARS TO PLAN AND BUILD. SO
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THIS BILL WILL SIMPLY SEND A
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MESSAGE TO THE ENERGY AGENCIES.
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IT'S TIME FOR ACTION. THANK YOU.
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HELLO CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE
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COMMITTEE. ADAM SMITH, SOUTHERN
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CALIFORNIA EDISON, SHARING OUR
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STRONG SUPPORT FOR SB 887. I
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THINK YOU'VE HEARD A BIT ABOUT
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THE BILL JUST START BY SAYING
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THE ELECTRIC SECTOR IS ESSENTIAL
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FOR ACHIEVING THE ECONOMY WIDE
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DECARBONIZATION. THERE'S NO WAY
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WE GET TO CARBON NEUTRALITY
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WITHOUT A ROBUST AND RELIABLE
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ELECTRIC SYSTEM, WHICH WILL NEED
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TO POWER, OTHER SECTORS AND
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OTHER SYSTEMS. AS WAS NOTED
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CAISO HAS RECENTLY EMBARKED ON A
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20 YEAR TRANSMISSION OUTLOOK.
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THEY SHOULD BE APPLAUDED FOR
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THAT. THIS IS EXACTLY THE TYPE
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OF SCENARIO PLANNING THE STATE
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NEEDS. AND THIS IS EXACTLY THE
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KIND OF LONG TERM THINKING SB
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887 ENCOURAGES US TO UNDERTAKE.
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I THINK THERE'S A GROWING
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RECOGNITION AMONG ALL PARTIES
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AND IT'S I THINK, EVIDENCED BY
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THE SUPPORT FOR THIS BILL THAT
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IF WE'RE GOING TO GET FROM HERE
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TO CARBON NEUTRALITY COST
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EFFECTIVELY, RELIABLY, WE NEED
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TO PLAN WITH THE END GOAL IN
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MIND. THIS LONG TERM PLANNING
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WILL ALLOW THE GRID TO
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ACCOMMODATE AND ANTICIPATE
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GROWING ELECTRIFICATION,
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CHANGING USE PATTERNS, YOU KNOW,
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CLIMATE CHANGE AND OTHER
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ECONOMIC DRIVERS. SP 887 IS A
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GREAT EXAMPLE OF STATE POLICY
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THAT ACKNOWLEDGES THE
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SIGNIFICANT WORK AHEAD FOR THE
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ELECTRIC SECTOR. WE BELIEVE THIS
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BILL WILL HELP ENSURE THAT
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ENERGY PLANNING IS EFFICIENT.
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AND ACCELERATES THE NECESSARY
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TRANSMISSION BUILD OUT. IN ORDER
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TO THOUGHTFULLY PLANNED A PATH
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FOR THE ELECTRIC SECTOR. WE NEED
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SB 887 AND MORE BILLS LIKE IT.
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WE SUPPORT THIS BILL AND URGE
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YOU SUPPORTED TODAY AS WELL.
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THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.
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I'M GOING TO ASK. REAL QUICK
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SENATOR DID ACCEPT THE
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AMENDMENTS. CORRECT OKAY, THANK
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YOU. I KNOW WE HAVE SOMEONE
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READY TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT,
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BUT I'M ASKING IF THERE ARE ANY
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WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION. I
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DON'T HAVE ANYBODY REGISTERED.
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AS A KEY WITNESSES FOR
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OPPOSITION. SEEN NO ONE IS
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COMING FORWARD. WE MOVE ONTO
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PUBLIC COMMENT. UH MR CHAIRMAN
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MEMBERS, JOHN WHITE WITH THE
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CLEAN POWER CAMPAIGN. WE SUPPORT
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THIS, BILL. THANK YOU. THANK
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YOU. SHARON BILL JULIAN I'M, A
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MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC TESTIFIED
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BEFORE THIS COMMITTEE BEFORE I
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HAVE A STATEMENT, WHICH I'LL
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PASS OUT AFTER ARREST, THE
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CHARGE CHARGE. BASIC CONCERN
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WITH THIS BILL, WHICH IS THAT IN
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FACT TRANSMISSION PLANNING AND
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APPROVALS AND RIGHT MAKING OR
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SUBJECTED TO REGIMES A STATE
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REGIME AT A FEDERAL REGIME.
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UNDER THE FIRST THIS BILL,
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UNFORTUNATELY, WHICH IS IT'S A
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VERY IMPORTANT BILL. IT'S A VERY
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IMPORTANT AREA, UNFORTUNATELY,
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FAILS TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN
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THOSE TWO REGIMES. IT ENDS UP
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PERPETUATING THE LAYER CAKE
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PANCAKING. YES WE'RE GOING TO
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ASSUME THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING
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IS ON THIS DOCUMENT THAT THAT'S
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THAT'S CORRECT. YOU JUST WANT TO
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TELL US YOUR NAME AGAIN AND
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BUILD BUILD. JULIAN I'M A MEMBER
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OF THE PUBLIC. I'M A FORMER
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STAFF FOR THE STATE LEGISLATURE
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AND THE PUC AND I'M HERE AS A
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MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC. THANK YOU.
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GOOD AFTERNOON RACHEL COST ON
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BEHALF OF THE COALITION OF
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CALIFORNIA UTILITY EMPLOYEES IN
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SUPPORT. THANK YOU. GOOD
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AFTERNOON, NICOLINA HERNANDEZ
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WITH SANDY GO GAS AND ELECTRIC
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AND SUPPORT. MARION BORGES AND
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NATURAL RESOURCES DEFENSE
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COUNCIL AND SUPPORT. STARE
00:34:31.536 --> 00:34:32.670
MEMBERS. BRIAN WHITE ON BEHALF
00:34:32.737 --> 00:34:33.771
OF OFFSHORE WIND, CALIFORNIA
00:34:33.838 --> 00:34:36.307
AUSTIN SUPPORT THANK YOU, MR
00:34:36.374 --> 00:34:37.408
CHAIRMAN. MY NAME IS DAN
00:34:37.475 --> 00:34:38.342
JACOBSON ENVIRONMENT CALIFORNIA
00:34:38.409 --> 00:34:42.947
SUPPORT. GOOD AFTERNOON, KYLIE
00:34:43.014 --> 00:34:44.282
JOAQUIN WILL BE OFF THE
00:34:44.348 --> 00:34:45.316
CALIFORNIA STATE ASSOCIATION OF
00:34:45.383 --> 00:34:46.317
ELECTRICAL WORKERS ADDING OUR
00:34:46.384 --> 00:34:49.554
SUPPORT THANK YOU. AFTERNOON
00:34:49.620 --> 00:34:50.621
CHAIR MEMBERS MICHAEL LYONS ON
00:34:50.688 --> 00:34:52.390
BEHALF OF THREE RIVERS, ENERGY
00:34:52.457 --> 00:34:55.827
DEVELOPMENT AND SUPPORT. GOOD
00:34:55.893 --> 00:34:57.695
AFTERNOON, MR CHAIR MARK FINSTER
00:34:57.762 --> 00:34:59.063
MAKER ON BEHALF OF PENINSULA,
00:34:59.130 --> 00:35:00.131
CLEAN ENERGY AND SUPPORT. THANK
00:35:00.198 --> 00:35:01.699
YOU. THANK YOU. I'LL ASK IF FILE
00:35:01.766 --> 00:35:03.000
WE HAVE ANY WITNESSES WANTING
00:35:03.067 --> 00:35:06.037
TO, UM OPPOSED THE BILL. PLEASE
00:35:06.103 --> 00:35:09.540
COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME. ANY
00:35:09.607 --> 00:35:11.476
ME TOO. I GUESS. TWO OPPOSING
00:35:11.542 --> 00:35:15.112
THE NO. ONE OKAY, I'M GONNA ASK
00:35:15.179 --> 00:35:16.581
THE PHONE MODERATOR IF YOU HAVE
00:35:16.647 --> 00:35:18.549
ANYBODY IN THE QUEUE. WANTING TO
00:35:18.616 --> 00:35:20.585
SPEAK IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION.
00:35:20.651 --> 00:35:28.092
TWO SB 887. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR
00:35:28.159 --> 00:35:29.627
FOR THOSE WHO WISH TO SPEAK IN
00:35:29.694 --> 00:35:31.629
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO THIS
00:35:31.696 --> 00:35:34.131
BILL, PLEASE PRESS 10 AT THIS
00:35:34.198 --> 00:35:38.135
TIME. AND OUR FIRST PERSON THAT
00:35:38.202 --> 00:35:42.073
WE HAVE IS LINE 46. GOOD
00:35:42.139 --> 00:35:43.541
AFTERNOON, MR CHAIR AND MEMBERS,
00:35:43.608 --> 00:35:46.277
BUT I FEEL LIKE A STUDIO CRANES
00:35:46.344 --> 00:35:47.345
CALLING ON BEHALF OF CALIFORNIA
00:35:47.411 --> 00:35:48.346
ENERGY STORAGE ALLIANCE AND
00:35:48.412 --> 00:35:49.447
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU,
00:35:49.514 --> 00:35:54.318
44. AMBER SAY HA WAS THREATENED
00:35:54.385 --> 00:35:55.887
PRICE CONSULTING ON BEHALF OF
00:35:55.953 --> 00:35:56.921
AMERICAN CLEAN POWER AND THE
00:35:56.988 --> 00:35:58.022
ENVIRONMENTAL DEFENSE FUND IN
00:35:58.089 --> 00:36:09.267
SUPPORT. LINE 51. FIND 51. YOUR
00:36:09.333 --> 00:36:13.504
LINE IS NOW OPEN. THIS IS
00:36:13.571 --> 00:36:14.705
SANTIAGO RODRIGUEZ WITH
00:36:14.772 --> 00:36:15.640
CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL VOTERS
00:36:15.706 --> 00:36:23.047
IN SUPPORT. LYING 31. THIS IS
00:36:23.114 --> 00:36:24.515
JASMINE JONES FROM THE
00:36:24.582 --> 00:36:25.983
INDEPENDENT ENERGY PRODUCERS
00:36:26.050 --> 00:36:27.618
ORIGINALLY OPPOSED THIS BILL. WE
00:36:27.685 --> 00:36:29.820
WORKED WITH SENATOR TO ADDRESS
00:36:29.887 --> 00:36:31.622
OUR CONCERNS, AND WE APPRECIATE
00:36:31.689 --> 00:36:32.823
THAT. WE REMOVED OUR OPPOSITION.
00:36:32.890 --> 00:36:37.728
THANK YOU. LINE NINE. THIS IS
00:36:37.795 --> 00:36:39.797
JANET TALKS FOR THREE FIFTIES
00:36:39.864 --> 00:36:42.033
SILICON VALLEY AND SUPPORT LINE
00:36:42.099 --> 00:36:47.305
45. WENDY REYNOLDS FROM
00:36:47.371 --> 00:36:48.873
CALIFORNIA ADVISORS ON BEHALF OF
00:36:48.940 --> 00:36:50.041
FEAR, THE SOLAR ENERGY
00:36:50.107 --> 00:36:50.908
INDUSTRIES ASSOCIATION AND
00:36:50.975 --> 00:36:58.082
SUPPORT LINE 15. GRACE CRACK
00:36:58.149 --> 00:36:59.250
FROM THE CALIFORNIA ENERGY
00:36:59.317 --> 00:37:00.952
STORAGE ALLIANCE IN SUPPORT.
00:37:01.018 --> 00:37:06.190
BLIND 39. GOOD AFTERNOON. THIS
00:37:06.257 --> 00:37:07.758
IS RAY BACA, REPRESENTING THE
00:37:07.825 --> 00:37:08.659
ENGINEERING CONTRACTORS
00:37:08.726 --> 00:37:09.627
ASSOCIATION, AND WE ARE IN
00:37:09.694 --> 00:37:16.434
SUPPORT. BLIND 28. CHRISTINA
00:37:16.500 --> 00:37:18.102
CREATOR PROGRAM MANAGER OF THE
00:37:18.169 --> 00:37:19.570
TRAVEL, HISTORIC AND CULTURAL
00:37:19.637 --> 00:37:21.339
PRESERVATION DEPARTMENT, ON
00:37:21.405 --> 00:37:22.540
BEHALF OF THE TENANTS TO COMBAT
00:37:22.607 --> 00:37:24.041
MISSION INDIANS IN SUPPORT. LINE
00:37:24.108 --> 00:37:30.381
42. FAREWELL SONG ON BEHALF OF
00:37:30.448 --> 00:37:31.616
THE LOS ANGELES COUNTY BUSINESS
00:37:31.682 --> 00:37:35.386
FEDERATION, WERE IN SUPPORT. AND
00:37:35.453 --> 00:37:36.954
A FINAL CALL FOR ANYONE WHO
00:37:37.021 --> 00:37:38.522
WISHES TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OR
00:37:38.589 --> 00:37:39.724
OPPOSITION OF THIS BILL. PLEASE
00:37:39.790 --> 00:37:44.195
PRESS 10 AT THIS TIME. MR CHAIR
00:37:44.261 --> 00:37:45.830
. THERE IS NO ONE ELSE TO SIGNAL
00:37:45.896 --> 00:37:46.564
MODERATOR AT LEAST ONE
00:37:46.631 --> 00:37:49.934
CONVERSATION. I APOLOGIZE.
00:37:50.001 --> 00:37:51.035
PLEASE GO AHEAD. HAVE ONE
00:37:51.102 --> 00:38:04.448
ADDITIONAL PERSON JUST A MOMENT.
00:38:04.515 --> 00:38:06.283
MR CHAIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
00:38:06.350 --> 00:38:07.485
FOR YOUR PATIENCE. JUST ANOTHER
00:38:07.551 --> 00:38:24.468
MOMENT, PLEASE. NO PROBLEM.
00:38:26.103 --> 00:38:27.238
GOING TO ATTEMPT TO GO TO LINE
00:38:27.304 --> 00:38:38.749
43. 43 YEAR LINE IS NOW OPEN.
00:38:38.816 --> 00:38:40.351
CAN PEOPLE HEAR ME?YEAH. HI.
00:38:40.418 --> 00:38:44.822
THIS IS. AND GLORIA NAVARRO WITH
00:38:44.889 --> 00:38:46.657
ENVIRONMENTAL DEFENSE FUND HERE
00:38:46.724 --> 00:38:48.826
IN SUPPORT, AND I HEARD OUR
00:38:48.893 --> 00:38:49.860
CONSULTANTS ALSO SUPPORT FOR US
00:38:49.927 --> 00:38:51.929
EARLIER, BUT THAT IS HOW MUCH WE
00:38:51.996 --> 00:38:53.097
SUPPORT THE BILL. WE'RE HERE
00:38:53.164 --> 00:38:55.800
TWICE. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
00:38:55.866 --> 00:38:58.102
THIS IS WORTH BEING PATIENT.
00:38:58.169 --> 00:39:00.204
THERE IS NO ONE ELSE. ALL RIGHT
00:39:00.271 --> 00:39:00.805
? THANK YOU. WE'RE GONNA BRING
00:39:00.871 --> 00:39:01.338
THE CONVERSATION BACK TO
00:39:01.405 --> 00:39:02.807
DIOCESE. ANY QUESTIONS, DOCTOR?
00:39:02.873 --> 00:39:08.946
UM FIRST OF ALL I WE HAD AND
00:39:09.013 --> 00:39:11.816
OBJECTOR. UM ALL YOU'RE DOING IS
00:39:11.882 --> 00:39:14.552
ASKING ESSENTIALLY. IS ASKING
00:39:14.618 --> 00:39:17.088
THE 20 YEAR, THE 10 YEAR PROCESS
00:39:17.154 --> 00:39:20.391
TO LOOK AT 15 SO I DON'T SEE HOW
00:39:20.458 --> 00:39:21.392
THIS CHANGES RELATIONSHIP WITH
00:39:21.459 --> 00:39:23.127
FOR WHICH IS WHAT'S ON THIS
00:39:23.194 --> 00:39:26.564
DOCUMENT? UM BETWEEN THE SO AND
00:39:26.630 --> 00:39:29.433
SO I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
00:39:29.500 --> 00:39:31.102
THEN THE INDEPENDENT SYSTEM
00:39:31.168 --> 00:39:32.837
OPERATORS HAD A CONCERN, WHICH I
00:39:32.903 --> 00:39:33.971
THINK YOU'VE ALSO COVERED IN
00:39:34.038 --> 00:39:37.274
YOUR BILL. YOU SPECIFICALLY SAID
00:39:37.341 --> 00:39:38.943
THEY THERE HAS TO BE SYSTEM WIDE
00:39:39.009 --> 00:39:40.144
RELIABILITY. THEIR COMMENT IS
00:39:40.211 --> 00:39:43.280
THAT YOU'RE SOMEHOW OR ANOTHER.
00:39:43.347 --> 00:39:45.716
UNDERESTIMATING THE NEEDS OF GAS
00:39:45.783 --> 00:39:48.219
FIRED. I DON'T SEE THAT IN YOUR
00:39:48.285 --> 00:39:50.154
BILL, EITHER. SO IT'S A GREAT
00:39:50.221 --> 00:39:50.888
BILL AND I'LL MOVE IT ONCE WE
00:39:50.955 --> 00:39:52.690
HAVE A QUORUM. ANY OTHER
00:39:52.757 --> 00:39:53.257
QUESTIONS, COLLEAGUES. OKAY.
00:39:53.324 --> 00:39:57.094
WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE? THANK
00:39:57.161 --> 00:39:59.797
YOU. I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS
00:39:59.864 --> 00:40:01.966
FROM THE COMMITTEE AND FROM THE
00:40:02.032 --> 00:40:03.701
DIVERSE STAKEHOLDERS IN SUPPORT
00:40:03.768 --> 00:40:05.202
. IT IS URGENT THAT WE START
00:40:05.269 --> 00:40:06.637
NOW, AS THESE PROJECTS TAKE 10
00:40:06.704 --> 00:40:08.405
YEARS TO BUILD AND RESPECTFULLY
00:40:08.472 --> 00:40:09.673
ASK YOUR I VOTED THE APPROPRIATE
00:40:09.740 --> 00:40:11.342
TIME. LET'S HOPE WE CAN REDUCE
00:40:11.408 --> 00:40:13.944
THAT AMOUNT OF TIME. AND YES, UM
00:40:14.011 --> 00:40:15.012
, HOPEFULLY THESE BILLS WILL
00:40:15.079 --> 00:40:16.947
HELP US. YOU KNOW, CHIEF ROADMAP
00:40:17.014 --> 00:40:18.682
THERE AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME.
00:40:18.749 --> 00:40:19.884
WE'LL TAKE AN ACTION ON THE
00:40:19.950 --> 00:40:21.619
ITEMS, SO I'LL ASK THAT YOU MOVE
00:40:21.685 --> 00:40:24.588
ONTO YOUR NEXT BILL. ITEM TWO.
00:40:24.655 --> 00:40:25.756
I'M SORRY. THREE, WHICH IS SB 10
00:40:25.823 --> 00:40:30.394
32. WELL ALONG THOSE LINES OF
00:40:30.461 --> 00:40:34.298
MOVING THINGS FASTER. UM. THIS
00:40:34.365 --> 00:40:35.332
BILL REALLY EXPLORES
00:40:35.399 --> 00:40:37.334
ALTERNATIVES TO THE SLOW STATUS
00:40:37.401 --> 00:40:39.436
QUO. BUILD OUT THAT YOU REFER
00:40:39.503 --> 00:40:41.539
TO, UM, WHICH COULD REDUCE COSTS
00:40:41.605 --> 00:40:42.673
AND IMPROVE THE SPEED OF
00:40:42.740 --> 00:40:45.676
BUILDING TRANSMISSION. WE WILL
00:40:45.743 --> 00:40:46.577
NEED AT LEAST 30 BILLION IN NEW
00:40:46.644 --> 00:40:47.912
TRANSMISSION BY 2040, ACCORDING
00:40:47.978 --> 00:40:50.815
TO THE CASE WAS 20 YEAR OUTLOOK.
00:40:50.881 --> 00:40:52.583
AND IN THE 2021 PRIORITY. SB 100
00:40:52.650 --> 00:40:56.287
ACTIONS. REPORT IT IDENTIFIED
00:40:56.353 --> 00:40:57.388
THE FORMATION OF A TRANSMISSION
00:40:57.454 --> 00:41:00.391
AUTHORITY. THEY COULD FUND AND
00:41:00.457 --> 00:41:03.561
BUILD NEW TRANSMISSION PROJECTS
00:41:03.627 --> 00:41:05.663
AS A WAY TO REDUCE THE COST
00:41:05.729 --> 00:41:07.898
ATTACKED TO RATEPAYERS OF
00:41:07.965 --> 00:41:09.800
BUILDING OUT. TRANSMISSION. SO
00:41:09.867 --> 00:41:12.169
THE SOLUTION THAT WE'RE WORKING
00:41:12.236 --> 00:41:14.572
TOWARDS THIS BILL BEGINS TO
00:41:14.638 --> 00:41:15.539
EXPLORE THE PROPOSAL FROM THE
00:41:15.606 --> 00:41:16.974
ACTIONS REPORT AND SIX
00:41:17.041 --> 00:41:18.175
ALTERNATIVES TO THE SLOW STATUS
00:41:18.242 --> 00:41:21.545
QUO TRANSMISSION. BUILD OUT. THE
00:41:21.612 --> 00:41:22.746
BILL ASKED THE CC IN
00:41:22.813 --> 00:41:25.082
CONSULTATION, WHETHER AGENCIES
00:41:25.149 --> 00:41:26.984
TO EXPLORE VARIOUS ALTERNATIVES
00:41:27.051 --> 00:41:27.585
TO TRANSMISSION CONSTRUCTION,
00:41:27.651 --> 00:41:29.753
INCLUDING PUBLIC FINANCING,
00:41:29.820 --> 00:41:30.721
PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP TO
00:41:30.788 --> 00:41:34.491
SUPPORT PERMITTING. MHM. CITING
00:41:34.558 --> 00:41:37.294
AND OBTAINING LAND RIGHTS.
00:41:37.361 --> 00:41:38.929
OPPORTUNITIES TO REDUCE
00:41:38.996 --> 00:41:40.030
DUPLICATIVE REVIEW AND
00:41:40.097 --> 00:41:42.833
STREAMLINE PERMITTING. AND THE
00:41:42.900 --> 00:41:44.802
BILL ASKED EACH OF THESE OPTIONS
00:41:44.869 --> 00:41:45.603
ACCOUNT FOR THE POTENTIAL
00:41:45.669 --> 00:41:46.837
IMPACT. ALSO THE STATE'S
00:41:46.904 --> 00:41:48.372
LIABILITY FOR WILDFIRES AND THE
00:41:48.439 --> 00:41:50.307
POTENTIAL FOR CALLED SAVINGS AND
00:41:50.374 --> 00:41:51.242
ENCOURAGES PROACTIVE PUBLIC
00:41:51.308 --> 00:41:53.811
INPUT. FINALLY WE ACCEPT THE
00:41:53.878 --> 00:41:55.446
COMMITTEE AMENDMENT TO CLARIFY
00:41:55.512 --> 00:41:57.081
THAT BY REDUNDANCY. WE INTEND TO
00:41:57.147 --> 00:41:58.716
MEAN DUPLICATIVE REVIEWS, NOT
00:41:58.782 --> 00:42:00.684
THE CONCEPT OF TRANSMISSION
00:42:00.751 --> 00:42:03.053
REDUNDANCY WITH THAT EXPECTEDLY
00:42:03.120 --> 00:42:04.555
ASKED FOR I VOTE AND PLEASED TO
00:42:04.622 --> 00:42:06.290
BE JOINED BY ARMOND COHEN, THE
00:42:06.357 --> 00:42:07.558
CO FOUNDER OF THE CLEAN AIR TASK
00:42:07.625 --> 00:42:08.659
FORCE. PLEASE PROCEED. THANK
00:42:08.726 --> 00:42:11.462
YOU. THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN GARCIA
00:42:11.528 --> 00:42:13.197
AND THE COMMITTEE. I APPRECIATE
00:42:13.264 --> 00:42:14.031
THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY.
00:42:14.098 --> 00:42:15.833
CLEANER TASK FORCE IS A GLOBAL
00:42:15.900 --> 00:42:16.700
ENVIRONMENTAL ORGANIZATION THAT
00:42:16.767 --> 00:42:18.135
DOES WORK IN CALIFORNIA AND
00:42:18.202 --> 00:42:19.370
THROUGHOUT THE WORLD TO PUSH
00:42:19.436 --> 00:42:23.040
ZERO CARBON ENERGY SYSTEM. UM
00:42:23.107 --> 00:42:24.341
WE'RE FIRMLY IN SUPPORT OF THIS
00:42:24.408 --> 00:42:27.945
BILL. WE START FROM THE FACT
00:42:28.012 --> 00:42:30.314
THAT STUDIES THAT HAVE BEEN DONE
00:42:30.381 --> 00:42:32.016
OF WHAT'S NECESSARY TO DE
00:42:32.082 --> 00:42:32.549
CARBONIZED THE CALIFORNIA
00:42:32.616 --> 00:42:33.951
ECONOMY, MOST RECENTLY BY
00:42:34.018 --> 00:42:35.819
PRINCETON UNIVERSITY, ESTIMATED
00:42:35.886 --> 00:42:37.187
THAT WE NEED ABOUT 200 GIGAWATTS
00:42:37.254 --> 00:42:39.056
OF NEW CENTRAL SOLAR. TO BE
00:42:39.123 --> 00:42:40.391
BUILT OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS.
00:42:40.457 --> 00:42:42.026
THAT'S ABOUT 10 GIGAWATTS PER
00:42:42.092 --> 00:42:44.161
YEAR. THE CURRENT RATE OF
00:42:44.228 --> 00:42:45.562
DEPLOYMENT IS IN THE
00:42:45.629 --> 00:42:46.797
NEIGHBORHOOD OF ONE GIGAWATT PER
00:42:46.864 --> 00:42:48.899
YEAR. SO WE HAVE TO GO 10 X. ONE
00:42:48.966 --> 00:42:50.968
OF THE IMPLICATIONS, AS WAS SAID
00:42:51.035 --> 00:42:52.836
EARLIER IS WE'RE GOING TO NEED A
00:42:52.903 --> 00:42:53.370
LOT OF TRANSMISSION. THE
00:42:53.437 --> 00:42:55.472
PRINCETON STUDY IDENTIFIES 150
00:42:55.539 --> 00:42:56.941
NEW HIGH VOLTAGE TRANSMISSION
00:42:57.007 --> 00:42:59.310
LINES OR LINE CONNECTIONS. AND
00:42:59.376 --> 00:43:00.844
THE STATE IS ONLY PERMITTING AND
00:43:00.911 --> 00:43:03.113
MOVING A FEW EVERY DECADE.
00:43:03.180 --> 00:43:04.315
REALLY, AT THIS POINT, SO
00:43:04.381 --> 00:43:05.516
OBVIOUSLY WE NEED TO PICK UP THE
00:43:05.582 --> 00:43:08.118
PACE QUITE A BIT. IT'S ALSO HARD
00:43:08.185 --> 00:43:09.286
PART OF OUR REASON FOR
00:43:09.353 --> 00:43:10.287
SUPPORTING THIS BILL AND A
00:43:10.354 --> 00:43:12.456
POTENTIAL LARGER PUBLIC ROLE.
00:43:12.523 --> 00:43:14.425
IT'S QUITE DIFFICULT TO IMAGINE
00:43:14.491 --> 00:43:15.626
THAT COMPLEXITY OF THE SYSTEM
00:43:15.693 --> 00:43:17.962
AND THAT SIZE OF SYSTEM BEING
00:43:18.028 --> 00:43:19.964
BUILT PIECE BY PIECE DEVELOPER
00:43:20.030 --> 00:43:21.465
BY DEVELOPER. AND SO THE IDEA
00:43:21.532 --> 00:43:23.100
HERE IS TO STUDY WHETHER THERE'S
00:43:23.167 --> 00:43:25.970
MERIT TO HAVING A STATE ROLE IN
00:43:26.036 --> 00:43:28.439
PLANNING AND EXECUTION, WHICH
00:43:28.505 --> 00:43:29.540
COULD REDUCE TIME AND REDUCE
00:43:29.606 --> 00:43:32.676
COST. ON THIS BILL IS IN PART
00:43:32.743 --> 00:43:34.945
MODELED ON A SUCCESSFUL ANALOG
00:43:35.012 --> 00:43:36.780
IN THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO, THE
00:43:36.847 --> 00:43:37.982
NEW MEXICO RENEWABLE ENERGY
00:43:38.048 --> 00:43:39.683
TRANSMISSION AUTHORITY, WHICH IS
00:43:39.750 --> 00:43:41.118
ACTUALLY BEEN ABLE TO MOBILIZE
00:43:41.185 --> 00:43:42.953
CAPITAL AND SUPPORT FOR THESE
00:43:43.020 --> 00:43:46.023
THE KINDS OF PROJECTS SO WE
00:43:46.090 --> 00:43:47.524
OBVIOUSLY THE BILL CALLS FOR
00:43:47.591 --> 00:43:49.827
FURTHER STUDY. BUT WE THINK THIS
00:43:49.893 --> 00:43:50.894
IS AN IDEA THAT IS WORTH WORTH
00:43:50.961 --> 00:43:52.763
EXPLORING IN DEPTH, GIVEN THE
00:43:52.830 --> 00:43:56.900
URGENCY AND THE PACE AT WHICH
00:43:56.967 --> 00:43:57.634
WE'RE MOVING RIGHT NOW. WHICH
00:43:57.701 --> 00:43:59.737
NEEDS TO BE PICKED UP
00:43:59.803 --> 00:44:00.571
SUBSTANTIALLY. THANK YOU VERY
00:44:00.637 --> 00:44:01.672
MUCH. THANK YOU. I DON'T KNOW
00:44:01.739 --> 00:44:03.741
THAT YOU HAVE ANOTHER WITNESS,
00:44:03.807 --> 00:44:04.708
SO WE'LL JUST CALL FOR A
00:44:04.775 --> 00:44:05.909
WITNESS, UH, IN OPPOSITION. I
00:44:05.976 --> 00:44:08.312
DON'T HAVE ANYONE REGISTERED.
00:44:08.379 --> 00:44:09.313
HAVE WITNESSED AN OPPOSITION.
00:44:09.380 --> 00:44:13.584
OKAY, PLEASE. THANK YOU.
00:44:13.650 --> 00:44:14.585
NICOLINA HERNANDEZ WITH SANTIAGO
00:44:14.651 --> 00:44:16.620
GAS AND ELECTRIC JUST BRIEFLY.
00:44:16.687 --> 00:44:18.822
WE ARE ARE IN OPPOSITION. WHILE
00:44:18.889 --> 00:44:21.759
WE SUPPORT REMOVING BARRIERS TO
00:44:21.825 --> 00:44:23.360
TRANSMISSION DEVELOPMENT. WE DO
00:44:23.427 --> 00:44:25.596
SEE THAT THE LANGUAGE IN THIS
00:44:25.662 --> 00:44:26.263
BILL IS VERY DUPLICATIVE,
00:44:26.330 --> 00:44:28.265
PARTICULARLY WITH THE FARC 1000
00:44:28.332 --> 00:44:29.299
PROCESS THAT ALREADY LOOKS AT
00:44:29.366 --> 00:44:31.335
THIS AND A COMPETITIVE
00:44:31.402 --> 00:44:32.236
SOLICITATION CAPACITY AS WELL
00:44:32.302 --> 00:44:35.539
AS, UM THE FOCUS OF THE STUDY
00:44:35.606 --> 00:44:37.207
THAT DOESN'T TAKE INTO
00:44:37.274 --> 00:44:38.575
CONSIDERATION THE LIFECYCLE
00:44:38.642 --> 00:44:41.011
COSTS INCLUDING MATERIALS, LABOR
00:44:41.078 --> 00:44:41.578
AND OTHER THINGS THAT WOULD
00:44:41.645 --> 00:44:44.314
AFFECT THE COST OF MAKING SURE
00:44:44.381 --> 00:44:45.416
THAT WE'RE HAVING THE MOST COST
00:44:45.482 --> 00:44:47.684
EFFECTIVE PROJECTS. THANK YOU.
00:44:47.751 --> 00:44:49.887
THANK YOU. WE'LL CALL FOR
00:44:49.953 --> 00:44:51.422
WITNESSES AND SUPPORT HERE IN
00:44:51.488 --> 00:44:52.423
THE ROOM. PLEASE COME FORWARD
00:44:52.489 --> 00:44:55.692
NAME. AFFILIATION AND POSITION.
00:44:55.759 --> 00:44:57.561
WITH THE CHAIR MEMBERS GREGG
00:44:57.628 --> 00:44:58.128
COOK, REPRESENTING NORTHERN
00:44:58.195 --> 00:44:58.862
CALIFORNIA POWER AGENCY IN
00:44:58.929 --> 00:45:03.067
SUPPORT OF THE BILL. PATRICK
00:45:03.133 --> 00:45:03.967
WELSH OF THE CALIFORNIA
00:45:04.034 --> 00:45:05.102
MUNICIPAL UTILITIES ASSOCIATION,
00:45:05.169 --> 00:45:06.570
ALSO IN SUPPORT. RIGHT ANYONE
00:45:06.637 --> 00:45:09.640
ELSE? GOOD LOOKING FOR ANYONE
00:45:09.706 --> 00:45:11.675
WISHING TO OPPOSE THE BILL HERE.
00:45:11.742 --> 00:45:15.446
IN THE ROOM. SAYING NO ONE COME
00:45:15.512 --> 00:45:19.183
FORWARD, MR MODERATOR. AH!
00:45:19.249 --> 00:45:20.350
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO SB 10
00:45:20.417 --> 00:45:26.457
32 ON THE LINE. YOU, MR CHAIR,
00:45:26.523 --> 00:45:28.358
AND FOR THOSE WHO WISH TO SPEAK
00:45:28.425 --> 00:45:29.960
IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO SB
00:45:30.027 --> 00:45:32.329
10 32 PLEASE PRESS ONE THAN ZERO
00:45:32.396 --> 00:45:36.200
THIS TIME LONDON ZERO WE WILL
00:45:36.266 --> 00:45:40.070
HEAR FROM THE LINE OF LINE NINE.
00:45:40.137 --> 00:45:42.139
THIS IS JANET COX FOR TREATED
00:45:42.206 --> 00:45:44.074
PIECE SILICON VALLEY IN SUPPORT.
00:45:44.141 --> 00:45:50.214
LINE 50. THIS IS GRACE PRATT OF
00:45:50.280 --> 00:45:51.415
THE CALIFORNIA ENERGY STORAGE
00:45:51.482 --> 00:45:56.220
LINES AND SUPPORT. MR CHAIR. WE
00:45:56.286 --> 00:45:58.155
HAVE ONE ADDITIONAL PERSON WHO
00:45:58.222 --> 00:45:59.323
SIGNALED THAT THEY WISH TO SPEAK
00:45:59.389 --> 00:46:09.933
JUST A MOMENT, PLEASE. LINE 52.
00:46:10.000 --> 00:46:12.202
JOSHUA TODAY ON BEHALF OF THE
00:46:12.269 --> 00:46:13.303
UTILITY REFORM NETWORK AND
00:46:13.370 --> 00:46:18.842
SUPPORT THANK YOU. THERE IS NO
00:46:18.909 --> 00:46:20.310
ONE ELSE TO SIGNAL BUT THEY WISH
00:46:20.377 --> 00:46:22.412
TO SPEAK. OKAY. BRING IT BACK TO
00:46:22.479 --> 00:46:23.547
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. QUESTIONS,
00:46:23.614 --> 00:46:27.818
DOCTOR. SO. IN THE FIRST BILL.
00:46:27.885 --> 00:46:30.187
YOU TELL KAISER TO DO THE
00:46:30.254 --> 00:46:33.590
PLANNING. UM NOW YOU'RE GETTING
00:46:33.657 --> 00:46:36.026
ANOTHER AGENCY TO DO PLANNING AS
00:46:36.093 --> 00:46:38.862
WELL. I AM CONCERNED THAT THIS
00:46:38.929 --> 00:46:42.032
IS SOMEHOW DUPLICATIVE. HOW HOW
00:46:42.099 --> 00:46:44.168
WOULD THE TWO ROLES DIFFER? AND
00:46:44.234 --> 00:46:46.203
HOW WOULD YOU PREVENT THEM FROM
00:46:46.270 --> 00:46:48.071
JUST TAKING A LOT LONGER?
00:46:48.138 --> 00:46:49.139
BECAUSE NOW YOU HAVE TWO
00:46:49.206 --> 00:46:51.341
AGENCIES DOING PLANNING. I
00:46:51.408 --> 00:46:52.409
APPRECIATE THAT AGAIN. IT IS
00:46:52.476 --> 00:46:56.813
MODELED. AFTER THIS NEW MEXICO
00:46:56.880 --> 00:47:00.684
EXAMPLE. SO THAT MY WITNESS.
00:47:00.751 --> 00:47:04.454
DISCUSSED THIS AS WELL. UM BUT
00:47:04.521 --> 00:47:06.790
WE BELIEVE THIS IS, UH, AROUND
00:47:06.857 --> 00:47:08.659
THE COST ACTUALLY LETTING US IF
00:47:08.725 --> 00:47:09.693
WE HAVE THIS INFRASTRUCTURE
00:47:09.760 --> 00:47:12.529
AUTHORITY ACTUALLY LEVERAGE THE
00:47:12.596 --> 00:47:13.463
STATE'S BALANCE SHEET TO THIS
00:47:13.530 --> 00:47:16.066
WOULD ACTUALLY GET INTO, UM
00:47:16.133 --> 00:47:19.136
BEYOND THE SCOPE OF PLANNING, UM
00:47:19.203 --> 00:47:21.305
AS WELL AS BE ABLE TO LOOK AT
00:47:21.371 --> 00:47:24.708
HOW TO SPEED UP. UM THIS KIND OF
00:47:24.775 --> 00:47:25.542
HAVE SOME POWERS TO ACTUALLY
00:47:25.609 --> 00:47:27.211
SPEED UP TRANSMISSION AS WELL.
00:47:27.277 --> 00:47:29.179
BUT LET ME DEFER TO MY WITNESS
00:47:29.246 --> 00:47:31.448
ON THIS AS WELL. OKAY I THINK
00:47:31.515 --> 00:47:33.116
THE TWO FUNCTIONS ARE QUITE
00:47:33.183 --> 00:47:34.551
COMPATIBLE. UM THERE'S NO
00:47:34.618 --> 00:47:36.486
QUESTION THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE
00:47:36.553 --> 00:47:37.654
COORDINATION BETWEEN THE CASE SO
00:47:37.721 --> 00:47:39.890
AND IN THIS NEW ENTITY, IF IT
00:47:39.957 --> 00:47:40.691
WERE TO BE CREATED AND AGAIN,
00:47:40.757 --> 00:47:42.926
THAT'S ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT
00:47:42.993 --> 00:47:43.627
NEEDS TO BE STUDIED IN THIS
00:47:43.694 --> 00:47:45.862
BILL, IS THERE IS THERE A
00:47:45.929 --> 00:47:47.064
COORDINATION? DOES THIS CREATE
00:47:47.130 --> 00:47:48.232
MORE CONFUSION? OR DOES IT SLOW
00:47:48.298 --> 00:47:49.466
THINGS DOWN RATHER THAN SPEED
00:47:49.533 --> 00:47:51.034
THEM UP? I THINK WHAT WE FOUND
00:47:51.101 --> 00:47:52.669
ELSEWHERE. IS THAT ONCE A PLAN
00:47:52.736 --> 00:47:54.538
IS DECIDED ON, AND ROUTES ARE
00:47:54.605 --> 00:47:55.005
DETERMINED THE PUBLIC
00:47:55.072 --> 00:47:56.607
INVOLVEMENT I'VE SPOKEN WITH
00:47:56.673 --> 00:47:57.541
TRANSMISSION DEVELOPERS ARE
00:47:57.608 --> 00:47:59.209
ACTUALLY QUITE KEEN ON THE NEW
00:47:59.276 --> 00:48:02.112
MEXICO EXAMPLE BECAUSE BY HAVING
00:48:02.179 --> 00:48:04.314
THE STATE PROVIDED IMPRIMATUR
00:48:04.381 --> 00:48:06.450
AND ACTUALLY BEING INVOLVED IN
00:48:06.516 --> 00:48:08.819
THE ACQUISITION OF THE PROPERTY
00:48:08.885 --> 00:48:11.855
AND FINANCING THAT CAN MOVE
00:48:11.922 --> 00:48:13.590
THINGS ALONG QUITE QUITE QUICKLY
00:48:13.657 --> 00:48:14.691
, BUT AGAIN, WHETHER THAT
00:48:14.758 --> 00:48:15.459
TRANSLATES TO CALIFORNIA IS
00:48:15.525 --> 00:48:18.795
SOMETHING TO BE STUDIED. UM
00:48:18.862 --> 00:48:23.066
OKAY. MY IMPRESSION WAS THAT.
00:48:23.133 --> 00:48:24.201
OKAY. I GUESS I DIDN'T
00:48:24.268 --> 00:48:25.135
UNDERSTAND THE BILL. MY
00:48:25.202 --> 00:48:28.739
IMPRESSION WAS THAT YOU WERE YOU
00:48:28.805 --> 00:48:30.674
WEREN'T STUDYING THIS. YOU WERE
00:48:30.741 --> 00:48:31.875
SETTING IT UP, BUT YOU'RE JUST
00:48:31.942 --> 00:48:35.212
BECAME A STUDY BILL. OH YEAH?
00:48:35.279 --> 00:48:37.080
YEAH, BECAME A STUDY FOR IT.
00:48:37.147 --> 00:48:41.518
YEAH, SURE. ABSOLUTELY. OKAY
00:48:41.585 --> 00:48:42.653
THANK THANK YOU ANY OTHER
00:48:42.719 --> 00:48:43.720
QUESTIONS, COLLEAGUES? BUT STILL
00:48:43.787 --> 00:48:45.389
GOOD QUESTIONS TO DISCUSS.
00:48:45.455 --> 00:48:50.360
RIGHT? BACK TO YOU, MR BRECKER.
00:48:50.427 --> 00:48:52.062
THANK YOU. WELL, YEAH, THAT IS
00:48:52.129 --> 00:48:54.131
THE RIGHT DISCUSSION TO HAVE AND
00:48:54.197 --> 00:48:55.265
I RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR I VOTE
00:48:55.332 --> 00:48:57.467
WILL TAKE ACTION. THE RIGHT
00:48:57.534 --> 00:48:58.502
MOMENT WHEN WE ESTABLISHED
00:48:58.568 --> 00:48:59.670
QUORUM WILL MOVE ONTO YOUR NEXT
00:48:59.736 --> 00:49:05.442
ITEM. YES UH, B 11 12. THANK
00:49:05.509 --> 00:49:08.979
YOU. MOVING ON TO SB 11 12. THIS
00:49:09.046 --> 00:49:11.281
BILL IDENTIFIES FINANCING TO
00:49:11.348 --> 00:49:11.782
ALLOW ALL HOUSEHOLDS IN
00:49:11.848 --> 00:49:13.183
CALIFORNIA TO ACCESS HOME
00:49:13.250 --> 00:49:15.052
APPLIANCES THAT SAVE ENERGY,
00:49:15.118 --> 00:49:17.120
REDUCE THROUGH UTILITY BILLS AND
00:49:17.187 --> 00:49:19.523
REDUCE GHG EMISSIONS. AND
00:49:19.589 --> 00:49:20.023
PROVIDES NECESSARY TRANS
00:49:20.090 --> 00:49:22.959
TRANSPARENCY REQUIREMENTS.
00:49:23.026 --> 00:49:24.428
WHAT'S THE PROBLEM? WE'RE TRYING
00:49:24.494 --> 00:49:26.063
TO SOLVE WELL, APPROXIMATELY SIX
00:49:26.129 --> 00:49:27.698
MILLION HOUSEHOLDS, FOUR MILLION
00:49:27.764 --> 00:49:30.233
OF WHICH ARE LOW INCOME LACK THE
00:49:30.300 --> 00:49:31.168
UPFRONT CAPITAL TO INSTALL
00:49:31.234 --> 00:49:33.537
CLIMATE BENEFICIAL APPLIANCES IN
00:49:33.603 --> 00:49:34.971
THEIR HOMES. THEY JUST WENT
00:49:35.038 --> 00:49:36.473
THROUGH THIS MYSELF TWO WEEKS
00:49:36.540 --> 00:49:37.674
AGO, AND IT IS STILL SOME
00:49:37.741 --> 00:49:40.944
UPFRONT COST. DESPITE REBATES
00:49:41.011 --> 00:49:42.112
THAT HOPEFULLY INCENTIVES SO
00:49:42.179 --> 00:49:43.213
HOPEFULLY WE WILL INCREASE HERE
00:49:43.280 --> 00:49:44.948
IN CALIFORNIA. FOR THESE
00:49:45.015 --> 00:49:45.982
FAMILIES. THIS BARRY MEANS
00:49:46.049 --> 00:49:46.983
HIGHER ENERGY BILLS AND
00:49:47.050 --> 00:49:47.951
UNNECESSARILY DEMAND ON THE
00:49:48.018 --> 00:49:51.388
GRID. THE SOLUTION IS TARIFF ON
00:49:51.455 --> 00:49:53.824
BILL FINANCING. THIS IS A PROVEN
00:49:53.890 --> 00:49:55.959
SCALE BUS SOLUTION TO THIS
00:49:56.026 --> 00:49:57.094
ISSUE, AND IT'S ALREADY BEEN
00:49:57.160 --> 00:49:58.095
ADOPTED IN MULTIPLE OTHER
00:49:58.161 --> 00:49:59.763
STATES. IN THE UTILITY SHERIFF
00:49:59.830 --> 00:50:02.632
ON BILL FINANCING INVESTMENT.
00:50:02.699 --> 00:50:03.934
THE UTILITY PROVIDES YOU UPFRONT
00:50:04.000 --> 00:50:05.702
COSTS FOR THE IMPROVEMENT, THEN
00:50:05.769 --> 00:50:06.436
RECOVERS THE COST THROUGH THE
00:50:06.503 --> 00:50:07.437
LOWER ELECTRICITY BILLS OVER
00:50:07.504 --> 00:50:10.173
TIME. AFTER THE TOTAL
00:50:10.240 --> 00:50:11.141
INVESTMENTS PAID OFF THE
00:50:11.208 --> 00:50:12.242
INHABITANT EXPERIENCES LOWER
00:50:12.309 --> 00:50:15.679
ENERGY USE. AND AS A RESULT, THE
00:50:15.746 --> 00:50:16.780
PROPERTY HABIT DOESN'T NEED THE
00:50:16.847 --> 00:50:18.048
UPFRONT CAPITAL REFERRED TO
00:50:18.115 --> 00:50:18.949
EARLIER MAKING THESE UPGRADES
00:50:19.015 --> 00:50:22.452
FINANCIALLY ACCESSIBLE FOR ALL.
00:50:22.519 --> 00:50:24.354
WHY HASN'T THIS BEEN ADOPTED YET
00:50:24.421 --> 00:50:25.789
, IF IT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE WITH
00:50:25.856 --> 00:50:27.591
THE PC IS AN ONGOING PROCEEDING
00:50:27.657 --> 00:50:29.159
ABOUT FINANCING OPTIONS FOR
00:50:29.226 --> 00:50:30.093
ENERGY IMPROVEMENTS, AND WE
00:50:30.160 --> 00:50:31.261
ANTICIPATE THAT THE HEARINGS
00:50:31.328 --> 00:50:32.262
COULD PROPOSE THIS KIND OF
00:50:32.329 --> 00:50:34.164
PROGRAM. HOWEVER THIS IS AN
00:50:34.231 --> 00:50:36.233
ONGOING PROCESS SO THIS BILL
00:50:36.299 --> 00:50:37.601
TAKES TO ACTIONS WHICH ARE
00:50:37.667 --> 00:50:40.036
NECESSARY FOR THE ADOPTION OF,
00:50:40.103 --> 00:50:40.771
HE TOLD THE CHAIR PHONE BUILT
00:50:40.837 --> 00:50:41.905
ROGRAM WON. THE BILL REQUIRES
00:50:41.972 --> 00:50:45.308
TRANSPARENCY. ABOUT TELEPHONE
00:50:45.375 --> 00:50:47.077
BILL INVESTMENTS ON THE PROPERTY
00:50:47.144 --> 00:50:49.813
AND WE CAN TALK MORE ABOUT THOSE
00:50:49.880 --> 00:50:50.947
TO THE BILL. DIRECTOR CC TO
00:50:51.014 --> 00:50:52.883
IDENTIFY FEDERAL FUNDING AND
00:50:52.949 --> 00:50:54.184
EXISTING STATE PROGRAMS THAT
00:50:54.251 --> 00:50:55.252
COULD PROVIDE LOW COST
00:50:55.318 --> 00:50:58.722
FINANCING. TO TEAR A PHONE BILL
00:50:58.789 --> 00:51:00.090
FINANCING INVESTMENTS, AND
00:51:00.157 --> 00:51:01.324
THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PIECE
00:51:01.391 --> 00:51:02.959
BECAUSE IT MAKES THE UPGRADES
00:51:03.026 --> 00:51:04.895
MUCH MORE AFFORDABLE WITH LOW
00:51:04.961 --> 00:51:06.029
RECOVERY CHARGES ON EACH MONTH'S
00:51:06.096 --> 00:51:09.566
BILL. WHY NOW? UM AGAIN. WE'RE
00:51:09.633 --> 00:51:11.568
ASKING FOR THIS BECAUSE RECENTLY
00:51:11.635 --> 00:51:13.470
AN UPCOMING FUNDING IS BECOMING
00:51:13.537 --> 00:51:14.971
AVAILABLE FOR CLIMATE AND ENERGY
00:51:15.038 --> 00:51:16.072
, AND WE'D LIKE CALIFORNIA
00:51:16.139 --> 00:51:17.607
EXPLORE THE LOAN GUARANTEES,
00:51:17.674 --> 00:51:18.642
PARTICULARLY FROM THE US
00:51:18.708 --> 00:51:20.510
DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY IN THE LAST
00:51:20.577 --> 00:51:22.679
BIPARTISAN INFRASTRUCTURE BILL.
00:51:22.746 --> 00:51:24.514
FINALLY I WANT TO THANK THE
00:51:24.581 --> 00:51:26.183
CHAIRS OFFICE FOR WORKING US TO
00:51:26.249 --> 00:51:27.417
ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS
00:51:27.484 --> 00:51:29.152
BROUGHT BY THE US ABOUT DEBT
00:51:29.219 --> 00:51:30.587
COLLECTION. CLASSIFICATION
00:51:30.654 --> 00:51:32.322
REGARDING THE NOTIFICATION, AND
00:51:32.389 --> 00:51:33.457
WE BELIEVE IT'S OF GREAT
00:51:33.523 --> 00:51:34.458
IMPORTANCE TO ACCEPT THESE
00:51:34.524 --> 00:51:36.293
PROPOSED AMENDMENTS. LASTLY
00:51:36.359 --> 00:51:37.928
WE'VE ALSO EXPRESSED THAT WE
00:51:37.994 --> 00:51:39.696
WILL COMMIT TO CLARIFY A FEW OF
00:51:39.763 --> 00:51:40.864
THE DEFINITIONAL AMENDMENTS
00:51:40.931 --> 00:51:42.566
PROPOSED BY PG KNEE AND EXPAND
00:51:42.632 --> 00:51:44.000
THE 10 DAY NOTIFICATION PERIOD
00:51:44.067 --> 00:51:47.237
TO 30 DAYS. AND WITH THAT WE
00:51:47.304 --> 00:51:48.038
HAVE TWO WITNESSES. JENNIFER
00:51:48.104 --> 00:51:49.105
TANNER HEALTH AND SILICON
00:51:49.172 --> 00:51:50.807
VALLEY, CLEAN ENERGY AND READ
00:51:50.874 --> 00:51:51.942
ADDIS FROM BUILDING D CARD
00:51:52.008 --> 00:51:55.812
COALITION PROCEED. GOOD
00:51:55.879 --> 00:51:56.947
AFTERNOON CHAIR AND MEMBERS
00:51:57.013 --> 00:51:58.815
JENNIFER TANNEHILL WITH AARON
00:51:58.882 --> 00:52:00.083
REID AND ASSOCIATES ON BEHALF OF
00:52:00.150 --> 00:52:01.785
SILICON VALLEY. CLEAN ENERGY.
00:52:01.852 --> 00:52:04.821
SPC IS A COMMUNITY OWNED AGENCY
00:52:04.888 --> 00:52:06.356
SERVING THE MAJORITY OF SANTA
00:52:06.423 --> 00:52:07.824
CLARA COUNTY COMMUNITIES
00:52:07.891 --> 00:52:09.559
ACQUIRING CLEAN CARBON FREE
00:52:09.626 --> 00:52:12.796
ENERGY ON BEHALF OF MORE THAN
00:52:12.863 --> 00:52:13.330
270,000, RESIDENTIAL AND
00:52:13.396 --> 00:52:16.433
COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS. AS A
00:52:16.500 --> 00:52:18.435
PUBLIC AGENCY ON THAT REVENUES
00:52:18.502 --> 00:52:20.203
ARE RETURNED TO THE COMMUNITY IN
00:52:20.270 --> 00:52:21.538
THE FORM OF COMPETITIVE RATES,
00:52:21.605 --> 00:52:22.839
MAINTAINING FINANCIAL STABILITY
00:52:22.906 --> 00:52:23.974
AND PROMOTING CLEAN ENERGY
00:52:24.040 --> 00:52:26.776
PROGRAMS. ACCELERATING HIGH
00:52:26.843 --> 00:52:28.178
EFFICIENCY. ALL ELECTRIC
00:52:28.245 --> 00:52:29.746
BUILDING RETROFITS IS A KEY
00:52:29.813 --> 00:52:31.548
STRATEGY AND SPC. EASY CARB
00:52:31.615 --> 00:52:34.818
STRATEGY ROADMAP. TO SCALE
00:52:34.885 --> 00:52:36.186
BUILDING RETROFITS. WE NEED A
00:52:36.253 --> 00:52:37.120
VARIETY OF INCENTIVES AND
00:52:37.187 --> 00:52:38.622
FINANCING TOOLS TO MAKE
00:52:38.688 --> 00:52:40.156
DECARBONIZATION INVESTMENTS MORE
00:52:40.223 --> 00:52:41.858
AFFORDABLE AND ACCESSIBLE,
00:52:41.925 --> 00:52:42.893
ESPECIALLY FOR THE STATE'S
00:52:42.959 --> 00:52:46.329
SIGNIFICANT RENTER POPULATION. S
00:52:46.396 --> 00:52:49.065
V. C IS PARTICIPATING IN A CPUC
00:52:49.132 --> 00:52:50.901
TECH INITIATIVE FOR TARIFF ON
00:52:50.967 --> 00:52:53.103
BILL FINANCING TO EXPLORE HOW
00:52:53.169 --> 00:52:54.571
THIS TOOL COULD HELP FINANCE
00:52:54.638 --> 00:52:57.774
DECARBONIZATION PROJECTS. SB 11
00:52:57.841 --> 00:52:59.809
12 WOULD ALLOW LOAD SERVING
00:52:59.876 --> 00:53:00.810
ENTITIES TO CREATE TARIFF ON
00:53:00.877 --> 00:53:02.879
BILL PROGRAM STATEWIDE BY ADDING
00:53:02.946 --> 00:53:04.481
DECARBONIZATION UPGRADES TO THE
00:53:04.548 --> 00:53:05.882
LIST OF OPERA AUTHORIZED HOME
00:53:05.949 --> 00:53:07.183
IMPROVEMENTS RECORDED ON TITLE
00:53:07.250 --> 00:53:09.920
DOCUMENTS. THE BILL ALSO
00:53:09.986 --> 00:53:11.321
REQUIRES LANDLORDS TO DISCLOSE
00:53:11.388 --> 00:53:13.023
THE DECARBONIZATION CHARGED TO
00:53:13.089 --> 00:53:14.991
TENANTS THROUGH LEASE AND THIS
00:53:15.058 --> 00:53:16.259
ALLOWS THE NOTIFICATION TO
00:53:16.326 --> 00:53:17.994
SUCCESS OR HOMEOWNERS OR TENANTS
00:53:18.061 --> 00:53:19.829
ABOUT THE BILL CHARGES IN THE
00:53:19.896 --> 00:53:21.331
FUTURE. STATEWIDE ROLLOUT WILL
00:53:21.398 --> 00:53:22.899
ALLOW THESE TYPES OF PROGRAMS TO
00:53:22.966 --> 00:53:24.534
ACHIEVE THE SCALE THAT WE NEED
00:53:24.601 --> 00:53:25.769
IN ORDER TO MEET OUR COLLECTIVE
00:53:25.835 --> 00:53:27.804
GREENHOUSE. GAS EMISSION
00:53:27.871 --> 00:53:29.339
REDUCTION GOALS FOR THESE
00:53:29.406 --> 00:53:32.676
REASONS WE SUPPORT SB 11 12. ALL
00:53:32.742 --> 00:53:34.044
RIGHT. THANK YOU. NEXT WITNESS.
00:53:34.110 --> 00:53:35.345
THANK YOU. CHAIR AND MEMBERS
00:53:35.412 --> 00:53:37.347
READ AT US ON BEHALF OF THE
00:53:37.414 --> 00:53:37.847
BUILDING DECARBONIZATION
00:53:37.914 --> 00:53:39.382
COALITION IN STRONG SUPPORT.
00:53:39.449 --> 00:53:41.351
TODAY WE HAVE A MAJOR CHALLENGE
00:53:41.418 --> 00:53:43.353
WITH CLIMATE CHANGE. WE WANT AS
00:53:43.420 --> 00:53:44.955
MANY TOOLS ON THE TABLE AS
00:53:45.021 --> 00:53:46.056
POSSIBLE. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE
00:53:46.122 --> 00:53:47.557
THAT ALL OF US CAN DEAL WITH
00:53:47.624 --> 00:53:49.426
CLIMATE CHANGE WHEN WE GO HOME
00:53:49.492 --> 00:53:50.594
AND ALLOWING US TO DEAL WITH THE
00:53:50.660 --> 00:53:52.195
MOST CLIMATE FRIENDLY
00:53:52.262 --> 00:53:52.796
APPLIANCES, RETROFITTING OR
00:53:52.862 --> 00:53:54.297
PURCHASING FOOT IN OUR HOMES SO
00:53:54.364 --> 00:53:56.333
THAT WE CAN BE ON THE FRONT LINE
00:53:56.399 --> 00:53:57.934
OF DEALING WITH CLIMATE CHANGE.
00:53:58.001 --> 00:53:59.636
TO DO THAT, AND TO MAKE SURE WE
00:53:59.703 --> 00:54:02.105
HAVE ALL THE TOOLS ON THE TABLE.
00:54:02.172 --> 00:54:02.739
WE NEED FINANCING AND EXPENSIVE
00:54:02.806 --> 00:54:04.541
OR CHEAP FINANCING, SO WE CAN DO
00:54:04.608 --> 00:54:05.709
THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS
00:54:05.775 --> 00:54:08.812
FUNDING AVAILABLE TO STATES.
00:54:08.878 --> 00:54:11.815
THIS BILL WOULD ALLOW THE C E C
00:54:11.881 --> 00:54:12.749
TO PUT TOGETHER A PROGRAM AND
00:54:12.816 --> 00:54:14.317
WORKED TO DRAW DOWN AS MANY OF
00:54:14.384 --> 00:54:15.719
THOSE DOLLARS IS POSSIBLE. HERE
00:54:15.785 --> 00:54:16.753
IN CALIFORNIA. WE THINK THAT'S
00:54:16.820 --> 00:54:19.589
AN IMPORTANT THING. IN ADDITION
00:54:19.656 --> 00:54:20.957
, IT DOES ALLOW THAT IF THE
00:54:21.024 --> 00:54:22.425
PEACE HE GOES FORWARD WITH ANY
00:54:22.492 --> 00:54:24.828
KIND OF PROCEEDING OR ADAPT
00:54:24.894 --> 00:54:25.996
CERTAIN UNBUILT FINANCING
00:54:26.062 --> 00:54:27.063
PROGRAMS THAT MAKE SURE THERE'S
00:54:27.130 --> 00:54:29.899
NOTIFICATION T<c.cyan> RENTERS AND</c>
00:54:29.966 --> 00:54:31.801
HOMEOWNERS ABOUT THE THAT
00:54:31.868 --> 00:54:33.236
FINANCING FEES. SO FOR THOSE
00:54:33.303 --> 00:54:34.437
REASONS WEREN'T STRONG SUPPORT
00:54:34.504 --> 00:54:35.872
TODAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, UM
00:54:35.939 --> 00:54:36.806
REGISTERED WITNESSES AND
00:54:36.873 --> 00:54:44.080
OPPOSITION. PLEASE COME FORWARD.
00:54:44.147 --> 00:54:45.448
MR CHAIR. MEMBERS OF THE
00:54:45.515 --> 00:54:47.083
COMMITTEE, ISRAEL SALAS WITH SAN
00:54:47.150 --> 00:54:48.451
DIEGO GAS AND ELECTRIC. WE HAVE
00:54:48.518 --> 00:54:49.953
AN OPPOSED UNLESS AMENDED
00:54:50.020 --> 00:54:50.887
POSITION. BUT WITH THE
00:54:50.954 --> 00:54:51.755
AMENDMENTS, AS REFLECTED IN THE
00:54:51.821 --> 00:54:53.490
ANALYSIS, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO
00:54:53.556 --> 00:54:54.691
GO TO NEUTRAL. THINK THE
00:54:54.758 --> 00:54:55.792
COMMITTEE AND THE AUTHOR FOR
00:54:55.859 --> 00:54:56.826
WORKING WITH US? THANK YOU.
00:54:56.893 --> 00:54:57.861
ANOTHER. IS THERE ANOTHER
00:54:57.927 --> 00:55:00.230
WITNESS? BEFORE WE GO TO PUBLIC
00:55:00.296 --> 00:55:04.668
COMMENTS. WE HAVE A WITNESS
00:55:04.734 --> 00:55:06.002
OPPOSITION. OKAY WE'LL GO ONTO
00:55:06.069 --> 00:55:07.037
PUBLIC COMMENTS HERE IN THE
00:55:07.103 --> 00:55:08.571
ROOM. UM THOSE WISHING TO
00:55:08.638 --> 00:55:11.307
SUPPORT PLEASE COME FORWARD.
00:55:11.374 --> 00:55:14.577
NAME AFFILIATION. AND YES, MR
00:55:14.644 --> 00:55:16.680
CHAIRMAN, UM VALERIE CARELLA
00:55:16.746 --> 00:55:18.848
VLAHOS WITH PACIFIC GAS AND
00:55:18.915 --> 00:55:19.916
ELECTRIC COMPANY, AND OUR
00:55:19.983 --> 00:55:20.850
POSITION IS SUPPORT IF AMENDED,
00:55:20.917 --> 00:55:22.986
UM, AND AS WE WANT TO THANK THE
00:55:23.053 --> 00:55:24.387
AUTHOR AND AS HE MENTIONED,
00:55:24.454 --> 00:55:26.356
CONTINUING TO WORK WITH HIM AND
00:55:26.423 --> 00:55:28.792
HIS STAFF, UM AND THANK THE
00:55:28.858 --> 00:55:29.559
COMMITTEE FOR THEIR WORK ON THE
00:55:29.626 --> 00:55:31.828
BILL, UM, EXCITED, ALSO ABOUT
00:55:31.895 --> 00:55:35.532
LEVERAGING FEDERAL DOLLARS. AND
00:55:35.598 --> 00:55:37.567
WANT TO MENTION THAT TO YOU AS
00:55:37.634 --> 00:55:38.568
OUR CUSTOMERS ARE IN AND
00:55:38.635 --> 00:55:39.602
AFFORDABILITY CRUNCH. THANK YOU.
00:55:39.669 --> 00:55:42.639
THANK YOU. DO A LOT OF TIME OUT
00:55:42.706 --> 00:55:44.441
HERE AND ESTABLISHED A QUORUM.
00:55:44.507 --> 00:55:47.243
EDUARDO GARCIA. EDUARDO GARCIA
00:55:47.310 --> 00:55:51.214
HERE, PATTERSON. PATERSON HERE,
00:55:51.281 --> 00:55:52.382
BARRICADE HAN BARRICADE HAND
00:55:52.449 --> 00:55:55.151
HERE. KOREA. CHEN. CHEN HERE,
00:55:55.218 --> 00:55:59.222
CUNNINGHAM PHÊN. PHÊN HERE.
00:55:59.289 --> 00:56:02.158
CRISTINA GARCIA HOLDEN. MAIZE
00:56:02.225 --> 00:56:04.694
MAIZE HERE MURATSUCHI WORK WORK
00:56:04.761 --> 00:56:09.332
HAIR RAISE. REYES HERE. SANTIAGO
00:56:09.399 --> 00:56:11.101
TING. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU ANY
00:56:11.167 --> 00:56:13.670
OTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT? HERE
00:56:13.737 --> 00:56:14.938
IN THE ROOM. ANY WITNESSES IN
00:56:15.004 --> 00:56:17.340
THE ROOM AND OPPOSITION? OKAY,
00:56:17.407 --> 00:56:19.242
SEEN NO ONE WILL GO TO THE
00:56:19.309 --> 00:56:22.011
MODERATOR. MR MODERATOR,
00:56:22.078 --> 00:56:23.079
OPPOSITION TO SUPPORT FOR SB 11
00:56:23.146 --> 00:56:29.919
12. MR CHAIR FOR THOSE WHO WISH
00:56:29.986 --> 00:56:30.920
TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OR
00:56:30.987 --> 00:56:31.988
OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL, PLEASE
00:56:32.055 --> 00:56:34.224
PRESS ONE AND ZERO AT THIS TIME,
00:56:34.290 --> 00:56:38.595
WE'RE GOING TO GO TO LINE 47.
00:56:38.661 --> 00:56:42.632
AFTERNOON LAST TENNIS ON BEHALF
00:56:42.699 --> 00:56:44.768
OF 3 50 BAY AREA ACTION AND
00:56:44.834 --> 00:56:46.603
STRONG SUPPORT OF THIS BILL.
00:56:46.669 --> 00:56:58.848
THANK YOU. QUÊ LINE 37. SP 1112
00:56:58.915 --> 00:57:00.016
LARA HAIDER FROM FRESNO
00:57:00.083 --> 00:57:06.189
PRESIDENT AND FRACKING. BLIND
00:57:06.256 --> 00:57:12.428
66. MR CHAIR MEMBERS, VINCE WORK
00:57:12.495 --> 00:57:13.530
MODULE WITH CLIMATE CENTER IN
00:57:13.596 --> 00:57:22.972
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. LINE 64. HI.
00:57:23.039 --> 00:57:28.378
MY NAME IS CHERYL. I'M 64.
00:57:28.444 --> 00:57:34.284
PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI. MY NAME IS
00:57:34.350 --> 00:57:35.351
CHERYL AUGER FROM PASADENA FROM
00:57:35.418 --> 00:57:43.993
THEIR POST. LINE NINE. THIS IS
00:57:44.060 --> 00:57:44.994
JANET TOXFORD TREATY OF PEACE
00:57:45.061 --> 00:57:46.863
TALKS AND VALLEY AND STRONG
00:57:46.930 --> 00:57:48.031
SUPPORT OF THIS DJ BILL. LINE
00:57:48.097 --> 00:57:53.469
61. KNOWN AMARILLO'S ON BEHALF
00:57:53.536 --> 00:57:54.537
OF THE GREENLINING INSTITUTE AND
00:57:54.604 --> 00:57:59.642
SUPPORT. MR CHAIR. THERE IS NO
00:57:59.709 --> 00:58:00.743
ONE ELSE WHO SIGNALED THAT THEY
00:58:00.810 --> 00:58:02.812
WISH TO SPEAK. THANK YOU MIGHT
00:58:02.879 --> 00:58:03.646
BRING THE CONVERSATION BACK TO
00:58:03.713 --> 00:58:09.485
DÍAS QUESTIONS. DR. SO WHAT I AM
00:58:09.552 --> 00:58:12.155
CONCERNED ABOUT IS NOT ALL
00:58:12.222 --> 00:58:13.323
PROJECTS ARE EQUAL AND IN FACT
00:58:13.389 --> 00:58:16.092
EXTENSIVE STUDIES DONE AT, UH,
00:58:16.159 --> 00:58:20.296
COMBINATION OF <c.cyan>/C. UM UH, WHAT</c>
00:58:20.363 --> 00:58:23.132
IS IT UNIVERSITY CHICAGO. IN MY
00:58:23.199 --> 00:58:26.603
T AND HARVARD HAVE SHOWN THAT
00:58:26.669 --> 00:58:27.704
MANY TIMES. IN FACT, THE
00:58:27.770 --> 00:58:30.607
MAJORITY OF TIMES THE MONEY
00:58:30.673 --> 00:58:32.675
INVESTED IN, UH, PUTTING IN
00:58:32.742 --> 00:58:34.844
INSULATION. DOES NOT PAY ITSELF
00:58:34.911 --> 00:58:38.848
BACK. AND SO WHAT I'M CONCERNED
00:58:38.915 --> 00:58:41.351
ABOUT IS THAT, UH, THE PEOPLE
00:58:41.417 --> 00:58:46.522
WHO AH, PRESUMABLY AGREED TO
00:58:46.589 --> 00:58:47.790
THIS HIGHER THAN TO ESSENTIALLY
00:58:47.857 --> 00:58:50.994
PAYING OFF THE LOAN. END UP
00:58:51.060 --> 00:58:52.128
PAYING HIGHER ENERGY BILLS OVER
00:58:52.195 --> 00:58:55.732
TIME. I'M SORRY, DIDN'T COME UP
00:58:55.798 --> 00:58:56.966
WITH THIS SOONER, BUT SOMETIMES
00:58:57.033 --> 00:58:58.835
IT JUST TAKES A WHILE TO THINK
00:58:58.902 --> 00:59:00.770
ABOUT IT. BUT IS THERE ANY
00:59:00.837 --> 00:59:03.806
GUARANTEE IN HERE THAT THE
00:59:03.873 --> 00:59:06.075
CONSUMER WON'T SEE AN INCREASE
00:59:06.142 --> 00:59:07.176
IN THEIR ENERGY BILLS AS A
00:59:07.243 --> 00:59:10.113
RESULT OF PAYING OFF THIS IN
00:59:10.179 --> 00:59:13.149
EFFECT ALONE AT THE SAME TIME,
00:59:13.216 --> 00:59:13.783
THEY'RE PAYING FOR THE AMOUNT OF
00:59:13.850 --> 00:59:18.354
ENERGY THEY USE. MY WHITNEY. YES
00:59:18.421 --> 00:59:20.023
THANK YOU. ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S I
00:59:20.089 --> 00:59:21.357
THINK THERE'S TWO WAYS I WOULD
00:59:21.424 --> 00:59:24.494
ANSWER THAT QUESTION 11 PART OF
00:59:24.560 --> 00:59:26.763
THIS BILL SIMPLY STATES THAT THE
00:59:26.829 --> 00:59:29.465
PUC WERE TO PUT FORWARD A
00:59:29.532 --> 00:59:30.566
PROGRAM LIKE THIS AND ADOPT
00:59:30.633 --> 00:59:32.735
PLANS BY THE I. O U. S. THERE
00:59:32.802 --> 00:59:34.337
SHOULD BE NOTIFICATION. YOUR
00:59:34.404 --> 00:59:36.506
QUESTION MIGHT BE AIMED AT HOW
00:59:36.572 --> 00:59:38.775
THE PC WOULD ADOPT THOSE PLANS.
00:59:38.841 --> 00:59:41.044
THIS BILL TRIES NOT TO SPEAK TO
00:59:41.110 --> 00:59:42.312
HOW THE ON BILL FINANCING WOULD
00:59:42.378 --> 00:59:44.480
BE DEVELOPED ONLY THAT IF IT IS
00:59:44.547 --> 00:59:46.115
APPROVED. WE WOULD WANT SOME
00:59:46.182 --> 00:59:48.151
NOTIFICATION FOR RENTERS AND
00:59:48.217 --> 00:59:51.788
HOMEOWNERS. OKAY, SO, UM IT
00:59:51.854 --> 00:59:53.756
WOULD BE UP TO THE UTILITY
00:59:53.823 --> 00:59:54.824
THAT'S WORKING WITH THE
00:59:54.891 --> 00:59:59.028
CUSTOMER. TO WORK OUT A DEAL,
00:59:59.095 --> 01:00:00.697
INCLUDING THE PUC. I THINK THAT
01:00:00.763 --> 01:00:02.565
WILL HAVE OVERSIGHT OVER EXACTLY
01:00:02.632 --> 01:00:04.300
HOW TO DEAL WITH THE RATE
01:00:04.367 --> 01:00:05.735
SAVINGS. ALRIGHT SO THEY'RE
01:00:05.802 --> 01:00:07.136
SUFFICIENT SAFEGUARDS THERE THAT
01:00:07.203 --> 01:00:08.338
WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT
01:00:08.404 --> 01:00:13.743
IT. GREAT. THANK YOU. COMMENTS.
01:00:13.810 --> 01:00:15.511
CONCERNS COMPLAINTS. NOTHING
01:00:15.578 --> 01:00:17.613
ALRIGHT, EVERYONE'S GOOD. IS
01:00:17.680 --> 01:00:19.282
THERE A MOTION TO MOVE CENTER?
01:00:19.349 --> 01:00:21.384
BECKER'S SHALL MOVE. ALRIGHT
01:00:21.451 --> 01:00:22.852
MOTION THE SECOND HE HAS
01:00:22.919 --> 01:00:23.886
ACCEPTED THE AMENDMENTS WOULD
01:00:23.953 --> 01:00:25.054
LIKE TO CLOSE. PARTICULAR
01:00:25.121 --> 01:00:25.621
ASPIRIN. I VOTE. ALL RIGHT,
01:00:25.688 --> 01:00:30.893
WELL, ALL THE QUESTION TO SB.
01:00:30.960 --> 01:00:41.004
QUICK 11 12. ITEM NUMBER FOUR SB
01:00:41.070 --> 01:00:43.606
11 12. THE MOTION IS DUE PASS AS
01:00:43.673 --> 01:00:46.042
AMENDED TO APPROPRIATIONS.
01:00:46.109 --> 01:00:48.778
EDUARDO GARCIA. EDUARDO GARCIA,
01:00:48.845 --> 01:00:49.912
I PATERSON PATERSON. I BARRICADE
01:00:49.979 --> 01:00:51.781
KH. BAUER-KAHAN AYE CARILLO
01:00:51.848 --> 01:00:57.854
CHEN CHENNAI CUNNINGHAM PH<c.cyan>.</c>
01:00:57.920 --> 01:00:59.422
FUNG I, CRISTINA GARCIA HOLDEN
01:00:59.489 --> 01:01:02.759
MAZE. MAY'S IMMERSE UCI CORK
01:01:02.825 --> 01:01:09.165
AYE. WORK I RAISE RAISE I THAT'S
01:01:09.232 --> 01:01:11.501
80. OKAY WE'LL LEAVE THE ROLE
01:01:11.567 --> 01:01:12.902
OPEN FOR OTHER MEMBERS WHO HAD
01:01:12.969 --> 01:01:15.171
ON BEFORE WE PROCEED WITH YOUR
01:01:15.238 --> 01:01:17.040
FINAL BILL. WE'RE GOING TO ASK
01:01:17.106 --> 01:01:18.241
FOR A MOTION OR SECOND TO
01:01:18.307 --> 01:01:19.909
CONSENT CALENDAR. AND I ASKED
01:01:19.976 --> 01:01:20.910
SECRETARY CONSENT. OKAY, WE'RE
01:01:20.977 --> 01:01:26.616
MOTION A SECOND. ITEM NUMBER 10.
01:01:26.682 --> 01:01:30.586
SB 12 13 AND ITEM NUMBER 11 SP
01:01:30.653 --> 01:01:33.890
13 83, THE MOTION IS DUE PASS TO
01:01:33.956 --> 01:01:34.757
APPROPRIATIONS RECOMMENDED
01:01:34.824 --> 01:01:38.895
CONSENT, EDUARDO GARCIA. EDUARDO
01:01:38.961 --> 01:01:40.963
GARCIA, I PATERSON PATERSON. I
01:01:41.030 --> 01:01:42.198
BARRICADE HAN BETTER BARRICADE.
01:01:42.265 --> 01:01:44.801
HANAI, KOREA, CHEN CHENNAI
01:01:44.867 --> 01:01:47.303
CUNNINGHAM PHÊN. FOLLOWING I,
01:01:47.370 --> 01:01:52.508
CRISTINA GARCIA. HOLDEN MAZE.
01:01:52.575 --> 01:02:00.149
AMAZIGH MURATSUCHI CORK I RAISE. REYES I SANTIAGO TING. THAT'S
01:02:00.216 --> 01:02:01.717
EIGHT. ALRIGHT ROLL OPEN FOR
01:02:01.784 --> 01:02:03.052
MEMBERS TO ADD ON. WE'RE GOING
01:02:03.119 --> 01:02:04.987
TO GO BACK TO THE TOP OF THE
01:02:05.054 --> 01:02:06.689
AGENDA. ITEM NUMBER TWO ITEM
01:02:06.756 --> 01:02:08.224
NUMBER TWO AND THREE. PRESENTED
01:02:08.291 --> 01:02:09.759
BY MR BECKER. ITEM NUMBER TWO SB
01:02:09.826 --> 01:02:18.668
887. SECOND, YES. NUMBER. TWO
01:02:18.734 --> 01:02:20.970
I'M SORRY, WHO MOVED THE BILL.
01:02:21.037 --> 01:02:26.075
PRESS, MR CARTER. THANK YOU.
01:02:26.142 --> 01:02:27.810
OKAY AGAIN. THAT'S ITEM NUMBER
01:02:27.877 --> 01:02:30.079
TWO SB 887. THE MOTION IS DUE
01:02:30.146 --> 01:02:31.013
PASS AS AMENDED TO
01:02:31.080 --> 01:02:33.683
APPROPRIATIONS. EDUARDO GARCIA,
01:02:33.749 --> 01:02:34.717
EDUARDO GARCIA, I PATERSON
01:02:34.784 --> 01:02:37.386
PATERSON EYEBROW BAUER-KAHAN.
01:02:37.453 --> 01:02:40.423
BAUER-KAHAN AYE CARILLO CHEN.
01:02:40.490 --> 01:02:44.026
CHENNAI CUNNINGHAM PHÊN.
01:02:44.093 --> 01:02:46.062
FOLLOWING I CRISTINA GARCIA
01:02:46.129 --> 01:02:48.064
HOLDEN. MAIZE MAIZE. I
01:02:48.131 --> 01:02:54.837
MURATSUCHI QUIRK. QUIRK I RAISE. REYES I THAT'S 80. OKAY, WE'LL
01:02:54.904 --> 01:02:56.639
LEAVE THAT OPEN FOR OTHER
01:02:56.706 --> 01:02:58.841
MEMBERS RIGHT ON. NUMBER THREE.
01:02:58.908 --> 01:03:02.778
DO WE HAVE EMOTION? SO MOVED.
01:03:02.845 --> 01:03:07.850
WORK AND RES. SB 10 30 TO THE
01:03:07.917 --> 01:03:10.019
MOTION IS DUE PASS AS AMENDED TO
01:03:10.086 --> 01:03:12.155
APPROPRIATIONS EDUARDO GARCIA.
01:03:12.221 --> 01:03:13.723
EDUARDO GARCIA, I, PATERSON
01:03:13.789 --> 01:03:14.690
PATERSON. I BAUER-KAHAN
01:03:14.757 --> 01:03:18.427
BARRICADED IN KOREA. CHEN.
01:03:18.494 --> 01:03:21.297
CHENNAI CUNNINGHAM PHÊN. FANG. I
01:03:21.364 --> 01:03:23.566
GOT CRISTINA GARCIA. HOLDEN.
01:03:23.633 --> 01:03:28.838
MAZE. MAYS. I MURATSUCHI. QUIRK
01:03:28.905 --> 01:03:34.076
QUIRK I RAISE. PRAISE I SANTIAGO
01:03:34.143 --> 01:03:38.014
TING. THAT'S 80 ROLE REMAIN OPEN
01:03:38.080 --> 01:03:40.983
AND SENATOR YOUR FOURTH ITEM.
01:03:41.050 --> 01:03:42.685
WORK QUARTER THROUGH THE AGENDA
01:03:42.752 --> 01:03:44.854
. KEEP US GOING. LET'S GO. THANK
01:03:44.921 --> 01:03:47.190
YOU. THANK YOU. UM IT STILL
01:03:47.256 --> 01:03:48.791
MAKES ME A LITTLE BIT LONGER ON
01:03:48.858 --> 01:03:50.693
ON THIS ONE. UM I WANT TO NOTE
01:03:50.760 --> 01:03:52.628
THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME PRESENT
01:03:52.695 --> 01:03:54.430
11 58. THIS BILL IS PART OF THE
01:03:54.497 --> 01:03:56.032
SENTENCE. CLIMATE WORKING GROUP
01:03:56.098 --> 01:03:57.633
A PACKAGE AND AS YOU KNOW, WE
01:03:57.700 --> 01:03:59.569
HAVE SP 100 TO GET TARGET 200%
01:03:59.635 --> 01:04:02.104
CLEAN ENERGY. THE GOOD NEWS IS
01:04:02.171 --> 01:04:02.939
WE'VE SET GREENHOUSE GAS
01:04:03.005 --> 01:04:04.974
EMISSIONS TARGETS FOR ALL OF OUR
01:04:05.041 --> 01:04:07.043
ELECTRICITY SUPPLIERS. THE BAD
01:04:07.109 --> 01:04:08.644
NEWS IS WE HAVE NOTHING IN PLACE
01:04:08.711 --> 01:04:10.446
TO MEASURE HOW WELL THEY'RE
01:04:10.513 --> 01:04:11.981
DOING AGAINST THOSE TARGETS. SO
01:04:12.048 --> 01:04:15.685
THAT THIS BILL FIXES THAT GAP.
01:04:15.751 --> 01:04:18.387
SO TO WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO
01:04:18.454 --> 01:04:19.522
FIX THE GAP? WE NEED TO
01:04:19.589 --> 01:04:21.090
UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH OF OUR
01:04:21.157 --> 01:04:22.425
ENERGY IS COMING FROM CLEAN
01:04:22.491 --> 01:04:23.759
SOURCES WHEN COMPARED TO
01:04:23.826 --> 01:04:24.794
ELECTRICITY DEMAND ON A TIME
01:04:24.860 --> 01:04:25.928
MATCHED BASIS HOUR TO HOUR.
01:04:25.995 --> 01:04:28.030
THAT'S WHAT THIS BILL IS ABOUT.
01:04:28.097 --> 01:04:29.432
AS YOU'LL HEAR FROM PENINSULA
01:04:29.498 --> 01:04:31.367
CLEAN ENERGY. IN A MOMENT, THEY
01:04:31.434 --> 01:04:33.436
FOUND THAT WHEN THEY MEASURED IN
01:04:33.502 --> 01:04:35.671
THIS FASHIONTHAT THERE THE G H
01:04:35.738 --> 01:04:37.473
G INTENSITY OF THEIR POWER WAS
01:04:37.540 --> 01:04:41.077
15 TIMES HIGHER. WHEN MEASURED
01:04:41.143 --> 01:04:42.578
IN THIS ACCURATE OUR TO OUR WAY
01:04:42.645 --> 01:04:44.113
THAN WHEN MEASURED BY USING
01:04:44.180 --> 01:04:45.147
TRADITIONAL HOURLY ACCOUNTING
01:04:45.214 --> 01:04:48.718
ASSUMPTIONS. 15 TIMES HIGHER SO
01:04:48.784 --> 01:04:50.286
CLEARLY HOW WE MEASURE GHG
01:04:50.353 --> 01:04:53.456
EMISSIONS MATTERS. I'LL NOTE.
01:04:53.522 --> 01:04:55.658
THE PUC ALSO WISELY CHOSE TO USE
01:04:55.725 --> 01:04:56.559
HOURLY ANALYSIS FOR ELECTRICITY
01:04:56.626 --> 01:04:58.995
SOURCES AND THEIR ASSOCIATED GHG
01:04:59.061 --> 01:05:00.896
EMISSIONS IN THE RFP PROCESS.
01:05:00.963 --> 01:05:02.398
THAT IS HOW ELECTRICITY
01:05:02.465 --> 01:05:04.166
SUPPLIERS RRP PLANS. THE
01:05:04.233 --> 01:05:05.868
INTEGRATED RESOURCE PLANNING
01:05:05.935 --> 01:05:07.370
PLANS WERE MEASURED TO SEE IF
01:05:07.436 --> 01:05:09.171
THEY WOULD MEET THE GSC GOALS.
01:05:09.238 --> 01:05:10.273
THERAPY. P I. R P PLANS,
01:05:10.339 --> 01:05:12.608
HOWEVER, ARE JUST FORECASTS. WE
01:05:12.675 --> 01:05:13.909
NEED TO KNOW WHAT IS ACTUAL
01:05:13.976 --> 01:05:15.311
HAPPENING IS THE ACTUAL
01:05:15.378 --> 01:05:16.746
PROCUREMENT OF ALL THESE
01:05:16.812 --> 01:05:17.780
ELECTRICITY SUPPLIERS, ACHIEVING
01:05:17.847 --> 01:05:20.049
THE PREDICTED RESULTS. I WOULD
01:05:20.116 --> 01:05:21.417
EMPHASIZE THIS BILL IS NOT
01:05:21.484 --> 01:05:22.685
CREATING NEW TARGETS, AND IT'S
01:05:22.752 --> 01:05:23.753
NOT REQUIRED ANYONE TO CHANGE
01:05:23.819 --> 01:05:25.154
THEIR PROCUREMENT PLANS. IT'S
01:05:25.221 --> 01:05:26.589
ONLY ABOUT ESTABLISHING A FAIR
01:05:26.656 --> 01:05:28.324
AND ACCURATE WAY TO MEASURE HOW
01:05:28.391 --> 01:05:29.458
EVERYONE IS DOING SO THAT WE'LL
01:05:29.525 --> 01:05:30.493
HAVE TRANSPARENT TRANSPARENCY
01:05:30.559 --> 01:05:33.262
AND ACCOUNTABILITY. IT WILL ALSO
01:05:33.329 --> 01:05:35.064
HELP THE PUC AND CC OVERSEE
01:05:35.131 --> 01:05:36.532
PROGRESS OF THE SECTOR TOWARDS
01:05:36.599 --> 01:05:39.735
YOUR SB 100 TARGETS,
01:05:39.802 --> 01:05:40.670
ACKNOWLEDGED THE UNCERTAINTY
01:05:40.736 --> 01:05:41.671
SOME STAKEHOLDERS HAVE RAISED
01:05:41.737 --> 01:05:44.974
ABOUT HOW DIFFICULT IT MAY BE TO
01:05:45.041 --> 01:05:46.208
PUT IN PLACE THESE NEW REPORTING
01:05:46.275 --> 01:05:48.077
REQUIREMENTS. WE HAVE WORKED
01:05:48.144 --> 01:05:49.478
WITH STAKEHOLDERS FOR MONTHS,
01:05:49.545 --> 01:05:51.080
TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE ISSUES
01:05:51.147 --> 01:05:52.448
AND MAKING CHANGES WHERE
01:05:52.515 --> 01:05:54.817
REASONABLE TO IMPROVE ON THIS.
01:05:54.884 --> 01:05:55.518
IN PARTICULAR, THE BILL HAS A
01:05:55.584 --> 01:05:57.486
SECTION REQUIRING GENERATORS TO
01:05:57.553 --> 01:05:59.355
PROVIDE THE HOURLY DATA THAT
01:05:59.422 --> 01:06:01.724
SUPPLIERS WOULD NEED TO COMPLY.
01:06:01.791 --> 01:06:02.692
IN ANOTHER SECTION, DIRECTING
01:06:02.758 --> 01:06:05.161
THE CCTO DEVISE RULES FOR
01:06:05.227 --> 01:06:07.296
ESTIMATING HOURLY SUPPLIES FOR
01:06:07.363 --> 01:06:09.565
CASES WHERE IT'S STILL NOT
01:06:09.632 --> 01:06:10.066
POSSIBLE FOR ELECTRICITY
01:06:10.132 --> 01:06:11.567
SUPPLIERS TO OBTAIN HOURLY DATA.
01:06:11.634 --> 01:06:14.103
IT ALSO ALLOWS THE CC TO REVIVE
01:06:14.170 --> 01:06:15.471
TO REVISE RULES FOR VERY SMALL
01:06:15.538 --> 01:06:17.073
SUPPLIERS OR EVEN JUST EXEMPT
01:06:17.139 --> 01:06:19.342
THEM IF THE REPORTING BURDENS
01:06:19.408 --> 01:06:20.676
WOULD BE DISPROPORTIONATELY HIGH
01:06:20.743 --> 01:06:22.478
FOR THEM, AND THE NEW REPORTING
01:06:22.545 --> 01:06:24.680
IS NOT REQUIRED UNTIL 2028 SO
01:06:24.747 --> 01:06:26.982
THAT EVERYONE HAD PLENTY OF TIME
01:06:27.049 --> 01:06:28.150
TO ADAPT REPORTING REQUIREMENTS
01:06:28.217 --> 01:06:29.218
REPORTING SYSTEMS TO MEET THE
01:06:29.285 --> 01:06:32.054
REPORTING REQUIREMENTS. I WOULD
01:06:32.121 --> 01:06:33.456
WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COST
01:06:33.522 --> 01:06:34.357
OF COMPLYING WITH THESE NEW
01:06:34.423 --> 01:06:35.725
REQUIREMENTS IS NOW NOT OUTWEIGH
01:06:35.791 --> 01:06:37.626
THE BENEFITS AND CONTINUE TO
01:06:37.693 --> 01:06:38.761
DISCUSS THESE ISSUES WITH
01:06:38.828 --> 01:06:39.729
STAKEHOLDERS SEE IF OTHER
01:06:39.795 --> 01:06:41.397
ADJUSTMENTS ARE MERITED. IN
01:06:41.464 --> 01:06:42.465
SUMMARY. WE HAVE G EMISSIONS
01:06:42.531 --> 01:06:43.966
TARGETS FOR ALL THE UTILITIES,
01:06:44.033 --> 01:06:45.434
BUT TODAY WE HAVE NO WAY OF
01:06:45.501 --> 01:06:47.169
MEASURING HOW THEY'RE DOING
01:06:47.236 --> 01:06:48.504
AGAINST THOSE TARGETS. WE SHOULD
01:06:48.571 --> 01:06:51.107
FIX THAT IN THIS BILL WILL DO
01:06:51.173 --> 01:06:51.707
THAT. ESPECIALLY ASKED FOR I
01:06:51.774 --> 01:06:52.541
VOTE AND WITH ME TODAY ARE MARK
01:06:52.608 --> 01:06:53.976
HERSHMAN. PRINT PENINSULA, CLEAN
01:06:54.043 --> 01:06:55.911
ENERGY AND ARMOND COHEN FROM THE
01:06:55.978 --> 01:06:56.879
CLEAN AIR TASK FORCE. PLEASE
01:06:56.946 --> 01:06:58.581
PROCEED. THANK YOU. GOOD
01:06:58.647 --> 01:06:59.882
AFTERNOON. I'M MARK HERSCHMAN,
01:06:59.949 --> 01:07:01.083
DIRECTOR OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS
01:07:01.150 --> 01:07:02.718
THAT PENINSULA CLEAN ENERGY AND
01:07:02.785 --> 01:07:04.887
WE ARE PROUD TO SUPPORT SB 1158
01:07:04.954 --> 01:07:06.155
AND THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO
01:07:06.222 --> 01:07:08.190
PROVIDE THESE COMMENTS TODAY.
01:07:08.257 --> 01:07:09.792
PENINSULA CLEAN ENERGY IS A NOT
01:07:09.859 --> 01:07:11.227
FOR PROFIT COMMUNITY CHOICE
01:07:11.293 --> 01:07:13.129
ENERGY AGENCY SERVING SAN MATEO
01:07:13.195 --> 01:07:14.864
COUNTY AND THE CITY OF LOS BANOS
01:07:14.930 --> 01:07:16.966
IN MERCED COUNTY. WE DELIVER
01:07:17.032 --> 01:07:18.467
ELECTRICITY TO OUR RATEPAYERS
01:07:18.534 --> 01:07:19.735
THAT IS 50% RENEWABLE IN 100%
01:07:19.802 --> 01:07:22.772
CLEAN. AT RATES 5% BELOW P
01:07:22.838 --> 01:07:26.242
GENIES GENERATION RATE. IN 2017
01:07:26.308 --> 01:07:28.043
. WE SET A GOAL FOR OURSELVES TO
01:07:28.110 --> 01:07:29.678
DELIVER 100% RENEWABLE ENERGY ON
01:07:29.745 --> 01:07:34.583
A 24 7 BASIS BY 2025. WE SET
01:07:34.650 --> 01:07:36.685
THIS GOAL, IN PART BECAUSE OF
01:07:36.752 --> 01:07:38.120
OUR FOUNDATIONAL VALUE TO PUSH
01:07:38.187 --> 01:07:38.754
THE BOUNDARIES IN CLEAN ENERGY
01:07:38.821 --> 01:07:40.356
PROCUREMENT AND DEPLOYMENT TO
01:07:40.423 --> 01:07:41.290
SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCE GREENHOUSE
01:07:41.357 --> 01:07:44.160
GAS EMISSIONS. WE DUG INTO THE
01:07:44.226 --> 01:07:45.461
DIFFERENCES IN EMISSIONS
01:07:45.528 --> 01:07:46.662
ASSOCIATED WITH OUR GENERATION
01:07:46.729 --> 01:07:48.631
RESOURCES WHEN CALCULATED ON AN
01:07:48.697 --> 01:07:51.233
HOURLY BASIS VERSUS AN ANNUAL
01:07:51.300 --> 01:07:53.536
BASIS, WE DETERMINE THAT WE
01:07:53.602 --> 01:07:54.703
NEEDED TO REDUCE THE DEMAND
01:07:54.770 --> 01:07:56.505
SIGNAL FOR FOSSIL BASED ENERGY
01:07:56.572 --> 01:07:57.473
FROM THE CALIFORNIA ELECTRICITY
01:07:57.540 --> 01:07:58.808
GRID. IN THOSE HOURS WHEN OUR
01:07:58.874 --> 01:08:00.242
CLEAN ENERGY CONTRACTS DID NOT
01:08:00.309 --> 01:08:01.243
MATCH THE TIMING OF OUR
01:08:01.310 --> 01:08:04.313
CUSTOMERS ENERGY DEMAND THIS LED
01:08:04.380 --> 01:08:06.081
US TO RETHINK AND DIVERSIFY OUR
01:08:06.148 --> 01:08:08.050
POWER PORTFOLIO. WE FOCUSED ON
01:08:08.117 --> 01:08:09.752
PROCUREMENT ON A DIVERSE
01:08:09.819 --> 01:08:12.188
PORTFOLIO OF RENEWABLE RESOURCES
01:08:12.254 --> 01:08:12.721
, INCLUDING SOLAR, WIND,
01:08:12.788 --> 01:08:13.722
GEOTHERMAL AND SMALL SCALE
01:08:13.789 --> 01:08:17.159
HYDRO. AS WELL AS ENERGY STORAGE
01:08:17.226 --> 01:08:18.727
THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO US AT
01:08:18.794 --> 01:08:19.862
DIFFERENT HOURS OF THE DAY AND
01:08:19.929 --> 01:08:21.864
NIGHT. AS A RESULT OF OUR
01:08:21.931 --> 01:08:23.532
EFFORTS, WE HAVE MADE MEASURABLE
01:08:23.599 --> 01:08:24.700
ADVANCEMENTS TOWARDS OUR GOAL OF
01:08:24.767 --> 01:08:26.836
ACHIEVING 24 7 RENEWABLE ENERGY.
01:08:26.902 --> 01:08:28.504
WE INVITE YOU TO READ OUR WHITE
01:08:28.571 --> 01:08:29.839
PAPER POSTED ON OUR WEBSITE AT
01:08:29.905 --> 01:08:32.575
PENINSULA, UH, CLEAN ENERGY .COM
01:08:32.641 --> 01:08:33.542
THAT PROVIDES FURTHER
01:08:33.609 --> 01:08:34.543
INFORMATION ABOUT OUR EFFORTS TO
01:08:34.610 --> 01:08:37.246
DELIVER 24 7 RENEWABLE ENERGY.
01:08:37.313 --> 01:08:40.182
BY THE YEAR. 2025 WE BELIEVE SB
01:08:40.249 --> 01:08:42.351
1158 CAN HELP LEAD THE WAY FOR
01:08:42.418 --> 01:08:43.486
OTHER ELECTRICITY SUPPLIERS TO
01:08:43.552 --> 01:08:45.654
FOLLOW. THE BILL WILL HELP
01:08:45.721 --> 01:08:47.556
GENERATE THE INFORMATION NEEDED
01:08:47.623 --> 01:08:48.858
TO MONITOR PROGRESS IN MATCHING
01:08:48.924 --> 01:08:50.526
GENERATION WITH LOAD ON AN
01:08:50.593 --> 01:08:51.794
HOURLY BASIS, WHICH IN TURN WILL
01:08:51.861 --> 01:08:55.364
LEAD TO REDUCE GHG EMISSIONS. SB
01:08:55.431 --> 01:08:57.633
1158 IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE
01:08:57.700 --> 01:08:59.134
SOLUTION THAT WILL ENABLE
01:08:59.201 --> 01:09:00.503
CALIFORNIA TO ACHIEVE A TRULY
01:09:00.569 --> 01:09:02.505
CLEAN GRID AND REACH OUR CLIMATE
01:09:02.571 --> 01:09:07.343
GOALS. MR CHAIRMAN AND THE
01:09:07.409 --> 01:09:08.978
COMMITTEE. WE ALSO SPEAKING IN
01:09:09.044 --> 01:09:10.379
SUPPORT FROM THE CLEAN AIR TASK
01:09:10.446 --> 01:09:14.183
FORCE FOR 1158. THE PERSPECTIVE
01:09:14.250 --> 01:09:16.285
I WANT TO ADD IS THE GLOBAL
01:09:16.352 --> 01:09:17.019
PERSPECTIVE. WE'RE WORKING ON
01:09:17.086 --> 01:09:18.821
THIS ISSUE ALL AROUND THE WORLD
01:09:18.888 --> 01:09:20.489
IN EUROPE. AND THROUGHOUT THE U.
01:09:20.556 --> 01:09:21.690
S AND THIS IS DEFINITELY THE
01:09:21.757 --> 01:09:23.926
WORLD THE WAY THE WORLD IS
01:09:23.993 --> 01:09:25.528
MOVING. THE RENEWABLE ENERGY
01:09:25.594 --> 01:09:27.296
MARKET HAS MOVED VERY QUICKLY
01:09:27.363 --> 01:09:28.597
THROUGH PRIVATE PROCUREMENT AND
01:09:28.664 --> 01:09:30.366
PUBLIC UTILITIES GOING OUT FOR
01:09:30.432 --> 01:09:32.935
UH, PROCUREMENT FOR WIND AND
01:09:33.002 --> 01:09:34.436
SOLAR, BUT WHAT HAS BEEN
01:09:34.503 --> 01:09:35.838
IDENTIFIED AS THE NEED FOR TRULY
01:09:35.905 --> 01:09:40.809
24 73 65 0 CARBON GRID AND THAT
01:09:40.876 --> 01:09:42.478
GAP NEEDS TO BE FILLED BY
01:09:42.545 --> 01:09:43.078
COMPLEMENTARY TECHNOLOGIES.
01:09:43.145 --> 01:09:45.014
WHETHER STORAGE OR SOME OF THE
01:09:45.080 --> 01:09:46.315
OTHER ONES THAT MR SHERMAN
01:09:46.382 --> 01:09:48.551
MENTIONED, SO WE'RE SEEING THE
01:09:48.617 --> 01:09:49.685
TREND. FOR EXAMPLE, THE BIDEN
01:09:49.752 --> 01:09:51.420
ADMINISTRATION IS MOVING IN THIS
01:09:51.487 --> 01:09:52.254
DIRECTION. IT ISSUED AN
01:09:52.321 --> 01:09:54.189
EXECUTIVE ORDER CALLING FOR 50%
01:09:54.256 --> 01:09:55.724
OF FEDERAL ELECTRICITY
01:09:55.791 --> 01:09:56.525
PROCUREMENT TO BE MET BY 24 7.
01:09:56.592 --> 01:09:59.161
CLEAN ELECTRICITY, NOT JUST
01:09:59.228 --> 01:10:01.530
RENEWABLE ENERGY CREDITS. UM
01:10:01.597 --> 01:10:03.999
GOOGLE IS YOU'RE PROBABLY AWARE
01:10:04.066 --> 01:10:06.936
HAS PUT THAT OUT AS A CORPORATE
01:10:07.002 --> 01:10:07.970
GOAL IN HIS PARTNERING WITH
01:10:08.037 --> 01:10:09.371
SILICON VALLEY, CLEAN ENERGY AS
01:10:09.438 --> 01:10:10.739
WELL AS ENTITIES THROUGHOUT THE
01:10:10.806 --> 01:10:11.740
UNITED STATES TO PUT TOGETHER
01:10:11.807 --> 01:10:13.642
THOSE KINDS OF PACKAGES. AND
01:10:13.709 --> 01:10:14.843
WE'RE TALKING TO SEVERAL
01:10:14.910 --> 01:10:16.111
UTILITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY
01:10:16.178 --> 01:10:18.247
ABOUT OFFERING THIS KIND OF
01:10:18.314 --> 01:10:19.815
TARIFF AGAIN. THIS IS NOT A
01:10:19.882 --> 01:10:22.618
SUBSTITUTE ULTIMATELY FOR THE
01:10:22.685 --> 01:10:23.752
GOAL OR THE ACHIEVEMENT OF THE
01:10:23.819 --> 01:10:24.920
GOAL THROUGH LEGISLATION, BUT
01:10:24.987 --> 01:10:27.122
WHAT THIS WILL DO IS CREATE AN
01:10:27.189 --> 01:10:27.723
EARLY MARKET SIGNAL FOR THESE
01:10:27.790 --> 01:10:30.593
CRITICAL, COMPLIMENTARY GAP
01:10:30.659 --> 01:10:31.727
FILLING TECHNOLOGIES, WHICH
01:10:31.794 --> 01:10:33.696
RIGHT NOW AS WE SPEAK TO
01:10:33.762 --> 01:10:34.863
DEVELOPERS, THEY SEE NO
01:10:34.930 --> 01:10:36.432
INCENTIVE FOR SO WE THINK THIS
01:10:36.498 --> 01:10:36.999
THIS POTENTIALLY CREATE SOME
01:10:37.066 --> 01:10:39.368
VERY VALUABLE SIGNAL. THE MARKET
01:10:39.435 --> 01:10:40.569
IS READY TO PROVIDE THIS
01:10:40.636 --> 01:10:42.471
PRODUCT. ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS
01:10:42.538 --> 01:10:43.606
SEND THE SIGNAL. THANK YOU VERY
01:10:43.672 --> 01:10:44.773
MUCH. THANK YOU. PRIMARY
01:10:44.840 --> 01:10:57.319
WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION.
01:10:57.386 --> 01:10:58.387
GOOD AFTERNOON AGAIN.
01:10:58.454 --> 01:11:00.489
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S MR CHAIR. MY
01:11:00.556 --> 01:11:01.523
NAME IS PATRICK WALSH WITH THE
01:11:01.590 --> 01:11:02.758
CALIFORNIA MUNICIPAL UTILITY
01:11:02.825 --> 01:11:04.259
ASSOCIATION AND RESPECTFUL
01:11:04.326 --> 01:11:06.462
OPPOSITION DO WANT TO THANK THE
01:11:06.528 --> 01:11:09.064
AUTHOR AND HIS STAFF FOR HAVING
01:11:09.131 --> 01:11:09.498
NUMEROUS PRODUCTIVE
01:11:09.565 --> 01:11:10.299
CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR
01:11:10.366 --> 01:11:12.735
ORGANIZATION AND OUR MEMBERS.
01:11:12.801 --> 01:11:14.203
SENIOR IS ACTIVELY WORKING WITH
01:11:14.269 --> 01:11:15.471
THE STATE TO IMPLEMENT THE
01:11:15.537 --> 01:11:17.239
STATE'S CLEAN ENERGY LAWS, AND
01:11:17.306 --> 01:11:19.975
MANY OF OUR MEMBER AGENCIES ARE
01:11:20.042 --> 01:11:20.876
ALSO WORKING WITH THEIR LOCAL
01:11:20.943 --> 01:11:22.378
LEADERSHIP ON PLANS THAT FURTHER
01:11:22.444 --> 01:11:23.679
SUPPORT THE STAINS GOALS. THE
01:11:23.746 --> 01:11:24.747
STATE ALREADY HAS IN OUR
01:11:24.813 --> 01:11:26.682
PERSPECTIVE, MULTIPLE PROGRAMS
01:11:26.749 --> 01:11:28.917
AND COMPLIANCE MECHANISMS TO
01:11:28.984 --> 01:11:30.219
KEEP TRACK OF GREENHOUSE MAC
01:11:30.285 --> 01:11:32.021
GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS AND
01:11:32.087 --> 01:11:33.188
ALSO OUR MEMBERS, RENEWABLE
01:11:33.255 --> 01:11:35.124
ENERGY PROCUREMENT. IN OUR VIEW
01:11:35.190 --> 01:11:37.126
. SB 11 58 ADDS ANOTHER PROGRAM
01:11:37.192 --> 01:11:40.129
BASED ON HOURLY ACCOUNTING, AS
01:11:40.195 --> 01:11:41.230
WE UNDERSTAND IT, ONE OF THE
01:11:41.296 --> 01:11:42.564
IMPORTANT GOALS OF THIS BILL IS
01:11:42.631 --> 01:11:44.700
IDENTIFY, DIFFICULT TO SERVE
01:11:44.767 --> 01:11:46.769
TIMES ON THE GRID. SO THAT'S IN
01:11:46.835 --> 01:11:47.770
THE EVENING, THE NET PEAK AND AT
01:11:47.836 --> 01:11:50.572
NIGHT WHEN IT IS REALLY HARD TO
01:11:50.639 --> 01:11:51.140
LOWER EMISSIONS RIGHT NOW,
01:11:51.206 --> 01:11:52.408
NATURAL GAS PLANTS ARE CRITICAL
01:11:52.474 --> 01:11:53.008
TO MAINTAINING RELIABILITY AT
01:11:53.075 --> 01:11:55.310
THAT TIME OF THE DAY AND NIGHT.
01:11:55.377 --> 01:11:56.879
WE DON'T HIDE THAT FACT. THAT IS
01:11:56.945 --> 01:11:59.381
A CRITICAL POINT. WE THINK THE
01:11:59.448 --> 01:12:01.016
KEY CHALLENGE TO TACKLING THIS
01:12:01.083 --> 01:12:02.851
IS NOT ADDITIONAL REPORTING, AS
01:12:02.918 --> 01:12:04.219
PROPOSED BY 11 58 BUT IS
01:12:04.286 --> 01:12:06.789
INVESTING IN NEW TECHNOLOGIES
01:12:06.855 --> 01:12:08.957
THAT HAVE NOT COME TO MARKET YET
01:12:09.024 --> 01:12:10.993
PROVIDE ZERO CARBON RESOURCES AT
01:12:11.060 --> 01:12:13.095
THOSE DIFFICULT TO SERVE TIMES.
01:12:13.162 --> 01:12:15.030
WE HAVE SUGGESTED AMENDMENTS TO
01:12:15.097 --> 01:12:16.498
THE OFFER TO MAKE SB 11 58 MORE
01:12:16.565 --> 01:12:18.367
HELPFUL TO SIMULATE MEMBERS. AND
01:12:18.434 --> 01:12:19.868
HELP THEM IN THEIR EFFORTS TO
01:12:19.935 --> 01:12:21.203
DELIVER CLEAN, RELIABLE AND
01:12:21.270 --> 01:12:22.738
IMPORT ELECTRICITY AND MEET THAT
01:12:22.805 --> 01:12:25.074
CHALLENGE OF DIFFICULT TO SERVE.
01:12:25.140 --> 01:12:26.542
TIMES ONE. WE THINK THE BILL
01:12:26.608 --> 01:12:27.743
SHOULD BE FOCUSED MORE CLEARLY
01:12:27.810 --> 01:12:29.678
ON UTILITY PLANNING, APPRECIATE
01:12:29.745 --> 01:12:31.680
THE COMMENTS BY THE AUTHOR THAT
01:12:31.747 --> 01:12:33.182
IT IS NOT COMPLIANCE FOCUS, WE
01:12:33.248 --> 01:12:33.682
THINK POTENTIALLY MORE
01:12:33.749 --> 01:12:36.618
CLARIFICATION IN THE BILL COULD
01:12:36.685 --> 01:12:37.486
BE USED TOWARDS THAT END. TO WE
01:12:37.553 --> 01:12:39.521
THINK THE BILL SHOULD PROVIDE
01:12:39.588 --> 01:12:40.189
OPTIONS TO REDUCE ADMINISTRATIVE
01:12:40.255 --> 01:12:41.790
BURDEN IN PARTICULAR FOR PERIODS
01:12:41.857 --> 01:12:43.826
THAT SERVE SMALLER COMMUNITIES.
01:12:43.892 --> 01:12:44.827
ONE OF OUR MEMBERS ESTIMATED
01:12:44.893 --> 01:12:46.395
THAT THIS BILL WOULD RESULT IN
01:12:46.462 --> 01:12:48.430
THEM PROVIDING THE STATE 220,000
01:12:48.497 --> 01:12:49.832
LINES IN EXCEL EVERY SINGLE YEAR
01:12:49.898 --> 01:12:50.933
TO THE CALIFORNIA ENERGY
01:12:50.999 --> 01:12:52.668
COMMISSION. SO WE WANT TO FIND
01:12:52.735 --> 01:12:54.203
WAYS TO REDUCE THE
01:12:54.269 --> 01:12:55.037
ADMINISTRATIVE BURDEN AND THREE
01:12:55.104 --> 01:12:57.039
WE THINK WE SHOULD DISCUSS WAYS
01:12:57.106 --> 01:12:58.607
TO KEEP CONSISTENCY ACROSS THE
01:12:58.674 --> 01:12:59.575
STATES, DIFFERENT REPORTING
01:12:59.641 --> 01:13:01.810
PROGRAMS SO THAT OUR MEMBERS
01:13:01.877 --> 01:13:02.578
DON'T HAVE TO REPORT ESSENTIALLY
01:13:02.644 --> 01:13:03.846
THE SAME INFORMATION IN
01:13:03.912 --> 01:13:05.547
DIFFERENT FORMATS TO THE STATE.
01:13:05.614 --> 01:13:06.348
SO IN CLOSING, APPRECIATE
01:13:06.415 --> 01:13:08.283
CONVERSATION WITH THE AUTHOR AND
01:13:08.350 --> 01:13:09.485
HIS STAFF LOOK FORWARD TO
01:13:09.551 --> 01:13:10.519
ONGOING DISCUSSIONS, BUT THIS
01:13:10.586 --> 01:13:12.187
TIME IT REMAINED A POST. THANK
01:13:12.254 --> 01:13:14.223
YOU. THANK YOU. I'M GONNA ASK
01:13:14.289 --> 01:13:15.424
THOSE IN THE ROOM WISHING TO
01:13:15.491 --> 01:13:16.625
SPEAK IN SUPPORT. PLEASE COME
01:13:16.692 --> 01:13:17.726
FORWARD. IS THAT YOUR NAME?
01:13:17.793 --> 01:13:20.763
AFFILIATION. RITUAL COST ON
01:13:20.829 --> 01:13:22.865
BEHALF OF THE COALITION OF
01:13:22.931 --> 01:13:23.866
CALIFORNIA UTILITY EMPLOYEES IN
01:13:23.932 --> 01:13:27.870
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. DANIEL
01:13:27.936 --> 01:13:29.204
BROUGHT ON BEHALF OF SIERRA CLUB
01:13:29.271 --> 01:13:32.374
CALIFORNIA AND SUPPORT THANKS.
01:13:32.441 --> 01:13:33.408
MARION BERGERSEN WITH NATURAL
01:13:33.475 --> 01:13:34.409
RESOURCES, DEFENSE COUNCIL AND
01:13:34.476 --> 01:13:38.413
SUPPORT JENNIFER TANNEHILL WITH
01:13:38.480 --> 01:13:39.948
AARON REID AND ASSOCIATES.
01:13:40.015 --> 01:13:40.883
SINAMA CLEAN POWER REPORTS THAT
01:13:40.949 --> 01:13:42.484
IN LIGHT OF THE AMENDMENTS, THEY
01:13:42.551 --> 01:13:43.519
REMOVED THEIR OPPOSITION AND ARE
01:13:43.585 --> 01:13:45.754
IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL.
01:13:45.821 --> 01:13:46.321
ENVIRONMENT CALIFORNIA DAN
01:13:46.388 --> 01:13:50.626
JACOBSON SUPPORT THANK YOU.
01:13:50.692 --> 01:13:52.294
VALERIE TERRELL ABAJO SPECIFIC
01:13:52.361 --> 01:13:54.396
ACID ELECTRIC COMPANY. WE WERE
01:13:54.463 --> 01:13:55.731
SUPPORTIVE, AMENDED. THANK THE
01:13:55.798 --> 01:13:57.566
AUTHOR. WE ARE FULL SUPPORT.
01:13:57.633 --> 01:14:01.370
THANK YOU. MR CHERRY'S REAL
01:14:01.436 --> 01:14:02.905
SALAS, SAN DIEGO GAS AND
01:14:02.971 --> 01:14:04.139
ELECTRIC. WE ARE SUPPORTIVE,
01:14:04.206 --> 01:14:05.274
AMENDED, BUT GETTING CLOSE.
01:14:05.340 --> 01:14:06.475
THANK THE AUTHOR FOR WORKING
01:14:06.542 --> 01:14:07.676
WITH US. OKAY, THOSE WANTING TO
01:14:07.743 --> 01:14:10.279
REGISTER OPPOSITION TO THE BILL.
01:14:10.345 --> 01:14:15.684
PLEASE COME FORWARD. CHAIR AND
01:14:15.751 --> 01:14:17.386
MEMBERS GREGG COOK, REPRESENTING
01:14:17.452 --> 01:14:18.620
NORTHERN CALIFORNIA POWER AGENCY
01:14:18.687 --> 01:14:21.123
ASSOCIATE MY COMMENTS WITH THOSE
01:14:21.190 --> 01:14:25.794
OF PATRICK FROM CMU A THANK YOU.
01:14:25.861 --> 01:14:27.029
GOOD AFTERNOON, MR CHAIR
01:14:27.095 --> 01:14:27.996
MEMBERS, ANTHONY SAMPSON, ON
01:14:28.063 --> 01:14:28.864
BEHALF OF THE SOUTHERN
01:14:28.931 --> 01:14:29.498
CALIFORNIA PUBLIC POWER
01:14:29.565 --> 01:14:31.533
AUTHORITY ALSO ALIGN MY COMMENTS
01:14:31.600 --> 01:14:33.168
WITH PATRICK WELSH FROM
01:14:33.235 --> 01:14:33.802
CALIFORNIA MUNICIPAL UTILITIES.
01:14:33.869 --> 01:14:37.372
NO ONE ELSE HAS TO MODERATOR.
01:14:37.439 --> 01:14:40.075
PERSONS ON THE LINE IN SUPPORT
01:14:40.142 --> 01:14:44.413
OR OPPOSITION TO SB 11 58. THANK
01:14:44.479 --> 01:14:46.415
YOU, MR CHAIR FOR THOSE WHO WISH
01:14:46.481 --> 01:14:47.983
TO SPEAK AND SUPPORT OUR
01:14:48.050 --> 01:14:49.318
OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL, PLEASE
01:14:49.384 --> 01:14:53.555
PRESS 10 PLUS 10. GOING TO GO TO
01:14:53.622 --> 01:15:00.996
LINE 51. FLYING 51. YOUR LINE IS
01:15:01.063 --> 01:15:05.267
NOW OPEN. HI THIS IS SANTIAGO
01:15:05.334 --> 01:15:06.301
RODRIGUEZ. WITH CALIFORNIA
01:15:06.368 --> 01:15:07.369
ENVIRONMENTAL VOTERS CALLING IN
01:15:07.436 --> 01:15:15.611
SUPPORT. FLYING. 71. I'VE BEEN
01:15:15.677 --> 01:15:16.812
MODULE AGAIN WITH CLIMATE CENTER
01:15:16.879 --> 01:15:23.118
IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU. LINE 37.
01:15:23.185 --> 01:15:24.152
LARA HAIDER PRESENCE AGAINST
01:15:24.219 --> 01:15:26.855
FRACKING I SUPPORT SELF OF 11 BY
01:15:26.922 --> 01:15:34.062
THE EIGHT BUYING 72. GOOD
01:15:34.129 --> 01:15:35.330
AFTERNOON CHAIR AND MEMBERS
01:15:35.397 --> 01:15:36.932
KIDNEY FAN ON BEHALF OF THE
01:15:36.999 --> 01:15:38.667
CALIFORNIA EFFICIENCY AND DEMAND
01:15:38.734 --> 01:15:39.801
MANAGEMENT COUNCIL IN SUPPORT OF
01:15:39.868 --> 01:15:45.307
SPLM 58. THANK YOU. LINE 48.
01:15:45.374 --> 01:15:46.808
GOOD AFTERNOON, MR CHAIRMAN
01:15:46.875 --> 01:15:48.377
MEMBERS KIRA ROSS ON BEHALF OF
01:15:48.443 --> 01:15:49.611
THE CITIES THAT PASADENA IN
01:15:49.678 --> 01:15:50.679
GLENDALE IN OPPOSITION TO THE
01:15:50.746 --> 01:15:56.184
BILL. FLYING 50. GRACE PRATT OF
01:15:56.251 --> 01:15:57.486
THE CALIFORNIA ENERGY STORAGE
01:15:57.552 --> 01:16:03.058
LINES AND SUPPORT BLIND 68.
01:16:03.125 --> 01:16:04.626
AMBER SANDALWOOD TRENTON PRICE
01:16:04.693 --> 01:16:05.861
CONSULTING ON BEHALF OF
01:16:05.928 --> 01:16:06.895
CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL
01:16:06.962 --> 01:16:08.230
JUSTICE, ALLIANCE AND SUPPORT.
01:16:08.297 --> 01:16:13.902
LINE NINE. JANET CLARK FOR 3, 50
01:16:13.969 --> 01:16:15.604
SILICON VALLEY AND SUPPORT LINE
01:16:15.671 --> 01:16:21.343
52. TODAY WITH THE UTILITY
01:16:21.410 --> 01:16:28.417
REFORM NETWORK IN SUPPORT. MR
01:16:28.483 --> 01:16:30.018
CHAIR. THERE IS NO ONE ELSE TO
01:16:30.085 --> 01:16:32.187
SIGNAL THAT THEY WISH TO SPEAK.
01:16:32.254 --> 01:16:33.455
THANK YOU. OSCAR MEMBERS. ANY
01:16:33.522 --> 01:16:37.826
QUESTIONS? YES, DOCTOR. UM SO I
01:16:37.893 --> 01:16:39.695
AGREE WITH THE CONCEPT THAT YOU
01:16:39.761 --> 01:16:40.862
HAVE TO KNOW WHERE YOU'RE
01:16:40.929 --> 01:16:43.031
FAILING BEFORE YOU CAN GO AHEAD.
01:16:43.098 --> 01:16:45.334
BUT WHAT I FIND WITH THIS HOURLY
01:16:45.400 --> 01:16:47.703
REPORTING IS THAT IT'S SORT OF
01:16:47.769 --> 01:16:49.371
ONE SIZE FITS ALL. IT WORKED
01:16:49.438 --> 01:16:51.974
GREAT FOR YOUR CORPORATION. UM
01:16:52.040 --> 01:16:54.943
YOU KNOW, I JUST THINKING ABOUT
01:16:55.010 --> 01:16:55.944
DISCUSSIONS I'VE HAD WITH
01:16:56.011 --> 01:16:59.414
OTHERS. AH WITHOUT HOURLY
01:16:59.481 --> 01:17:00.449
REPORTING. THEY KNOW WHEN
01:17:00.515 --> 01:17:03.952
THEY'RE PROBLEMS ARE, UM OR WHEN
01:17:04.019 --> 01:17:09.825
THERE. HAVING TO PROCURE FOSSIL
01:17:09.891 --> 01:17:12.461
FUELS NON CLEAN SOURCES OF
01:17:12.527 --> 01:17:14.763
ENERGY AND THEY'RE NOT DOING
01:17:14.830 --> 01:17:18.433
HOURLY REPORTING SO UM, IT'S
01:17:18.500 --> 01:17:20.602
SORT OF THAT'S MY CONCERN THAT
01:17:20.669 --> 01:17:22.471
YOU CAN DO THIS OTHER WAYS. AND
01:17:22.537 --> 01:17:23.605
YOU'RE GIVING A ONE SIZE FITS
01:17:23.672 --> 01:17:26.308
ALL WHICH WORK FINE FOR YOU. BUT
01:17:26.375 --> 01:17:29.044
DOESN'T NECESSARILY WORK FINE
01:17:29.111 --> 01:17:30.879
FOR EVERYONE AND IN PARTICULARLY
01:17:30.946 --> 01:17:32.481
FOR THE SMALLER UTILITIES, WHICH
01:17:32.547 --> 01:17:34.316
IS WHY YOU'RE HEARING FROM
01:17:34.383 --> 01:17:35.283
CALIFORNIA MUNICIPAL UTILITIES,
01:17:35.350 --> 01:17:37.686
BUT UM, IT'S GENERATING A LOT OF
01:17:37.753 --> 01:17:39.354
DATA. I DON'T KNOW WHO IS GOING
01:17:39.421 --> 01:17:44.359
TO LOOK AT IT. AT THE PUC, UM I
01:17:44.426 --> 01:17:47.863
JUST QUESTION WHETHER THIS IS
01:17:47.929 --> 01:17:49.097
SOMETHING WE OUGHT TO MANDATE.
01:17:49.164 --> 01:17:51.333
IT'S NOT THAT IT'S BAD. IT'S
01:17:51.400 --> 01:17:54.136
JUST THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO DO
01:17:54.202 --> 01:17:55.370
IT. AND WHY MANDATE A PARTICULAR
01:17:55.437 --> 01:17:58.473
WAY? SURE, I JUST FIRST OF ALL,
01:17:58.540 --> 01:17:59.975
I DO APPRECIATE COMMENTS ON
01:18:00.042 --> 01:18:00.575
SMALLER UTILITIES. AND JUST TO
01:18:00.642 --> 01:18:02.544
BE CLEAR THE BILLS RIGHT HERE
01:18:02.611 --> 01:18:04.613
FOR SMALLER I O. U. S. WITH LESS
01:18:04.679 --> 01:18:06.581
THAN 60,000 CUSTOMERS OR ANY
01:18:06.648 --> 01:18:08.083
LECTURES ANY ELECTRICITY
01:18:08.150 --> 01:18:09.985
SUPPLIER WITH 1000 GIGAWATTS
01:18:10.052 --> 01:18:11.119
LESS THAN 1000 GIGAWATTS
01:18:11.186 --> 01:18:12.988
ANNUALLY. SO AS MENTIONED, WE DO
01:18:13.055 --> 01:18:15.724
ALLOW THE CC TO EXEMPT THEM. BUT
01:18:15.791 --> 01:18:16.658
WE'RE WILLING TO KEEP TALKING
01:18:16.725 --> 01:18:18.827
WITH THE OPPOSITION. UM YOU
01:18:18.894 --> 01:18:20.462
KNOW, TO CONSIDER TAKING IT OUT
01:18:20.529 --> 01:18:21.730
ENTIRELY, SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO
01:18:21.797 --> 01:18:23.298
DISCUSS WITH THEM. OKAY SO I DO
01:18:23.365 --> 01:18:24.866
APPRECIATE YOU RAISING THAT. I
01:18:24.933 --> 01:18:26.635
THINK YOU KNOW TO YOUR OTHER
01:18:26.701 --> 01:18:28.170
POINTS. I MEAN, WE STILL YOU
01:18:28.236 --> 01:18:29.271
KNOW, FUNDAMENTALLY BELIEVE YOU
01:18:29.337 --> 01:18:30.772
KNOW, YOU CAN'T IMPROVE WHATYOU
01:18:30.839 --> 01:18:31.440
DON'T MEASURE. AND THERE IS
01:18:31.506 --> 01:18:33.108
NOTHING THAT DOES HOURLY
01:18:33.175 --> 01:18:34.910
ACCOUNTING TODAY. UM AND, UM AH,
01:18:34.976 --> 01:18:39.614
IN. UM YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THAT IN
01:18:39.681 --> 01:18:41.483
GENERAL, UM YOU KNOW, TO THE
01:18:41.550 --> 01:18:43.318
POINT THAT WAS RAISED YET. WE
01:18:43.385 --> 01:18:44.586
KNEW IN GENERAL GASSES USED AT
01:18:44.653 --> 01:18:46.455
NIGHT. THAT'S FINE. BUT WE DO
01:18:46.521 --> 01:18:48.557
WANT TO KNOW HOW EACH UTILITIES
01:18:48.623 --> 01:18:49.191
PROGRESSING TOWARDS ITS GOALS,
01:18:49.257 --> 01:18:50.659
AND IT WAS MENTIONED. WHEN PC
01:18:50.725 --> 01:18:51.893
DID THIS, THEY FOUND ACTUALLY,
01:18:51.960 --> 01:18:53.862
YOU KNOW, 15 TIMES THE INTENSITY
01:18:53.929 --> 01:18:55.097
OF G WHEN THEY MEASURED IT
01:18:55.163 --> 01:18:57.232
HOURLY COUNTY BASIS SO
01:18:57.299 --> 01:18:59.801
APPRECIATE. UM THE CONCERNS. I
01:18:59.868 --> 01:19:02.838
THINK THAT YOU KNOW P P C E HAS
01:19:02.904 --> 01:19:04.840
SHOWN THAT YOU CAN DO THIS. WE
01:19:04.906 --> 01:19:06.575
CAN GET THIS DATA. AND SO IF WE
01:19:06.641 --> 01:19:08.643
CAN DATE IT, GET THE DATA. I
01:19:08.710 --> 01:19:10.378
THINK WE SHOULD BECAUSE IT WILL
01:19:10.445 --> 01:19:12.714
CERTAINLY HELP US. I THINK FOR
01:19:12.781 --> 01:19:13.315
THE POINTS MENTIONED, IT WILL
01:19:13.381 --> 01:19:15.083
HELP US ON OUR PATH TO 24 7
01:19:15.150 --> 01:19:16.585
CLEANING WELL, BUT THERE ARE
01:19:16.651 --> 01:19:18.120
OTHER REPORTS YOU CAN GIVE LIKE
01:19:18.186 --> 01:19:20.355
YOU COULD SAY AT WHAT TIMES OF
01:19:20.422 --> 01:19:23.358
DAY DO USE UM OTHER THAN
01:19:23.425 --> 01:19:26.495
RENEWABLE ENERGY AND HOW MANY
01:19:26.561 --> 01:19:29.631
GIGAWATTS HOURS IS THAT? OVER
01:19:29.698 --> 01:19:32.100
THE COURSE OF A DAY A YEAR,
01:19:32.167 --> 01:19:33.201
ETCETERA. YOU CAN ASK FOR
01:19:33.268 --> 01:19:35.470
DIFFERENT TYPES OF REPORTS. THAT
01:19:35.537 --> 01:19:37.806
GIVE THE SAME SORT OF
01:19:37.873 --> 01:19:38.907
INFORMATION AS OPPOSED TO DOING
01:19:38.974 --> 01:19:39.508
IT. HOURLY. THERE'S ALSO THE
01:19:39.574 --> 01:19:43.612
PROBLEM OF WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO
01:19:43.678 --> 01:19:47.883
BALANCE THE GRID AS A WHOLE. AND
01:19:47.949 --> 01:19:49.851
THE SAY WE'RE VERY HOT HERE IN
01:19:49.918 --> 01:19:52.854
CALIFORNIA, AND THE ISSO IS
01:19:52.921 --> 01:19:53.688
BRINGING IN ENERGY FROM OTHER
01:19:53.755 --> 01:19:56.258
STATES, SOME OF WHICH IS FOSSIL,
01:19:56.324 --> 01:19:59.227
SOME OF WHICH IS RENEWABLE.
01:19:59.294 --> 01:20:01.196
THOSE ELECTRONS DON'T COME WITH
01:20:01.263 --> 01:20:04.733
WITH LABELS ALRIGHT, AND THERE'S
01:20:04.799 --> 01:20:06.835
A LOT OF ENERGY ON THE LINE SOME
01:20:06.902 --> 01:20:09.971
RENEWABLE, SOME NOT. UM HOW DO
01:20:10.038 --> 01:20:11.706
YOU EVEN KNOW FOR YOUR FACILITY?
01:20:11.773 --> 01:20:12.707
YOU KNOW YOU'RE IMPORTING
01:20:12.774 --> 01:20:14.709
ENERGY. BUT YOU DON'T
01:20:14.776 --> 01:20:16.278
NECESSARILY KNOW ITS GREENHOUSE
01:20:16.344 --> 01:20:21.583
GAS VALUES. TO THE SECOND POINT.
01:20:21.650 --> 01:20:24.019
I SEE OUR MIND. AS YOU KNOW, YOU
01:20:24.085 --> 01:20:25.086
WANNA ADDRESS THAT? YEAH, I
01:20:25.153 --> 01:20:26.788
THINK THAT, UM WE'VE WE'VE
01:20:26.855 --> 01:20:29.291
EXPLORED THIS WITH A NUMBER OF
01:20:29.357 --> 01:20:30.358
UTILITIES AND ABOUT ACCOUNTING
01:20:30.425 --> 01:20:32.727
ACROSS STATE LINES WITHIN LARGE
01:20:32.794 --> 01:20:34.429
CONTROL AREAS, AND IT IS IT IS
01:20:34.496 --> 01:20:36.431
POSSIBLE TO DO THIS KIND OF
01:20:36.498 --> 01:20:38.099
ANALYSIS. YOU MAY NOT BE AS
01:20:38.166 --> 01:20:40.001
PRECISE OUTSIDE THE STATE AS YOU
01:20:40.068 --> 01:20:41.403
MIGHT BE IN THE STATE. BUT IT IS
01:20:41.469 --> 01:20:44.206
NOT AN INSEPARABLE PROBLEM. AND
01:20:44.272 --> 01:20:44.839
IN FACT WE'RE SEEING IN EUROPE
01:20:44.906 --> 01:20:45.407
AND WE'RE BEGINNING TO SEE
01:20:45.473 --> 01:20:46.741
UNITED STATES. THIRD PARTY DATA
01:20:46.808 --> 01:20:47.943
PROVIDERS, DATA ANALYSTS COMING
01:20:48.009 --> 01:20:50.045
IN AND BEING ABLE TO DEVELOP THE
01:20:50.111 --> 01:20:53.248
TOOLS. THAT THAT CAN DIG INTO
01:20:53.315 --> 01:20:54.416
THE DATA. THAT'S THAT'S THE I S
01:20:54.482 --> 01:20:56.318
O S IN CONTIGUOUS AREAS OR
01:20:56.384 --> 01:20:58.520
SUPPORTING SO IT'S AN AREA OF
01:20:58.587 --> 01:20:59.888
EMERGING TECHNICAL CAPABILITY. I
01:20:59.955 --> 01:21:02.624
DON'T THINK THIS IS BEYOND THE
01:21:02.691 --> 01:21:05.193
CAPABILITY OF PEOPLE TO DO AND
01:21:05.260 --> 01:21:07.729
THE HOURLY PART OF THIS IS
01:21:07.796 --> 01:21:08.630
ACTUALLY ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL
01:21:08.697 --> 01:21:10.732
BECAUSE AVERAGING OVER, SAY
01:21:10.799 --> 01:21:13.735
WEEKS OR MONTHS IS NOT GOING TO
01:21:13.802 --> 01:21:15.337
CAPTURE THESE VARIATIONS AND IN
01:21:15.403 --> 01:21:17.906
THE DEGREE WITH THAT, THAT PART
01:21:17.973 --> 01:21:19.307
YOU NEED TO HAVE YOU NEED TO
01:21:19.374 --> 01:21:22.410
KNOW THE TIMES. QUESTION IS, ARE
01:21:22.477 --> 01:21:23.812
THERE THINGS BESIDES HOURLY
01:21:23.878 --> 01:21:27.315
REPORTING AND WITHIN THE EU?
01:21:27.382 --> 01:21:28.416
EVERYBODY'S WORKING FROM THE
01:21:28.483 --> 01:21:30.619
SAME HYMNAL, SO TO SPEAK. THE
01:21:30.685 --> 01:21:32.721
STATE ADJACENT TO US. WE'RE
01:21:32.787 --> 01:21:34.322
WE'RE WE'RE IMPORTING POWER
01:21:34.389 --> 01:21:36.057
AREN'T AND I AGAIN THE ELECTRONS
01:21:36.124 --> 01:21:37.592
DON'T COME WITH LABELS. ANYWAY,
01:21:37.659 --> 01:21:39.661
I'VE HAD ENOUGH. I THINK ANY
01:21:39.728 --> 01:21:43.665
OTHER QUESTIONS. RIGHT. IS THERE
01:21:43.732 --> 01:21:47.902
A MOTION TO MOVE THIS BILL?
01:21:47.969 --> 01:21:50.405
ALRIGHT MOTION. IS THERE A
01:21:50.472 --> 01:21:58.680
SECOND? THANK YOU. OKAY WOULD
01:21:58.747 --> 01:22:00.248
YOU LIKE CLOTHES? I APPRECIATE
01:22:00.315 --> 01:22:02.284
THE CONVERSATION OF THE DIALOGUE
01:22:02.350 --> 01:22:03.818
. WOULD YOU BELIEVE THIS IS
01:22:03.885 --> 01:22:04.853
CRITICAL? AND THIS IS THIS WILL
01:22:04.919 --> 01:22:06.488
REALLY HELP US GET TO OUR 24 7
01:22:06.554 --> 01:22:08.323
GOALS AND RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
01:22:08.390 --> 01:22:09.391
YOUR VOTE. WELL, THAT'S
01:22:09.457 --> 01:22:10.825
SECRETARY CALLED QUESTION. ITEM
01:22:10.892 --> 01:22:14.562
NUMBER FIVE. THE MOTION IS DUE
01:22:14.629 --> 01:22:17.932
PASS TO NATURAL RESOURCES. I'M
01:22:17.999 --> 01:22:20.969
SORRY. ITEM NUMBER FIVE SP 11 58
01:22:21.036 --> 01:22:22.270
. THE MOTION IS DUE PAST NATURAL
01:22:22.337 --> 01:22:23.104
RESOURCES, EDUARDO GARCIA.
01:22:23.171 --> 01:22:26.374
EDUARDO GARCIA, I PATERSON
01:22:26.441 --> 01:22:26.808
PATERSON, NOT VOTING
01:22:26.875 --> 01:22:31.546
BAUER-KAHAN. CARILLO. CHEN.
01:22:31.613 --> 01:22:32.580
KITCHEN, NOT VOTING, CUNNINGHAM.
01:22:32.647 --> 01:22:38.086
PH<c.cyan>. FUNG I, CRISTINA GARCIA</c>
01:22:38.153 --> 01:22:41.156
HOLDEN MAZE. AMAZIGH MURATSUCHI
01:22:41.222 --> 01:22:45.193
CORK VOTING. WORK NOT VOTING.
01:22:45.260 --> 01:22:49.831
REYES SANTIAGO CHENG THAT'S 30
01:22:49.898 --> 01:22:51.966
CALL OPEN FOR OTHERS TO ADD ON.
01:22:52.033 --> 01:22:54.102
THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOLLOWING
01:22:54.169 --> 01:22:55.870
THE FILE ORDER. I DON'T SEE MR
01:22:55.937 --> 01:22:58.206
BRADFORD IN THE ROOM. OH, BOOM!
01:22:58.273 --> 01:23:02.644
LOOK AT HIM. AND I ALWAYS WILL
01:23:02.711 --> 01:23:05.680
DO WELL, WE DO HAVE YOU KNOW WE
01:23:05.747 --> 01:23:08.083
HAVE MR ARCHER LET US PIN GENDER
01:23:08.149 --> 01:23:09.451
AND THAT'S MR HERTZBERG. WHO'S
01:23:09.517 --> 01:23:16.091
BEEN WAITING PATIENTLY. A. IT'S
01:23:16.157 --> 01:23:17.325
A AND THEN B. ARCHULETTA
01:23:17.392 --> 01:23:23.732
RADFORD. I JUST DID THIS SO I
01:23:23.798 --> 01:23:26.534
COULD DO THIS TO BRADFORD. YEAH.
01:23:26.601 --> 01:23:29.871
GOOD MOVE. GO HE'S COMING BACK.
01:23:29.938 --> 01:23:32.607
HEY. ALL RIGHT, OKAY. ALRIGHT
01:23:32.674 --> 01:23:34.542
COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS. ON BEHALF
01:23:34.609 --> 01:23:38.847
OF. THE ESTEEM CENTER AT YOUR
01:23:38.913 --> 01:23:40.615
LETTER. I AM ACCEPTING HIM AS
01:23:40.682 --> 01:23:42.016
HIS AGENT AND HIS ATTORNEY. IN
01:23:42.083 --> 01:23:45.053
FACT, UM, BILL? YEAH. OKAY,
01:23:45.120 --> 01:23:50.024
THAT'S GOOD. UM. VERY BRIEFLY.
01:23:50.091 --> 01:23:52.127
THIS BUILDINGS WITH CAR BUILDING
01:23:52.193 --> 01:23:54.896
CARBON AND THE DECARBONIZATION.
01:23:54.963 --> 01:23:59.601
UM, THE. IT SEEKS TO ADDRESS
01:23:59.667 --> 01:24:01.136
SOME OF THOSE CHALLENGES IT
01:24:01.202 --> 01:24:02.937
DEALS WITH LOCAL GOVERNMENT HAS
01:24:03.004 --> 01:24:04.272
THE ISSUE WHERE MOST OF THIS
01:24:04.339 --> 01:24:05.373
STUFF JUST DEALS WITH NEW
01:24:05.440 --> 01:24:07.208
CONSTRUCTION. THIS DEALS WITH
01:24:07.275 --> 01:24:11.112
EXISTING CONSTRUCTION AND I HAVE
01:24:11.179 --> 01:24:12.814
MORE TO SAY, BUT I WILL TURN
01:24:12.881 --> 01:24:13.548
OVER MY WITNESSES. ANTHONY
01:24:13.615 --> 01:24:15.483
SAMPSON OF AOC A O SMITH
01:24:15.550 --> 01:24:17.986
CORPORATION, DON KOPECKY IS HERE
01:24:18.052 --> 01:24:20.121
ON BEHALF OF AIR CONDITIONING,
01:24:20.188 --> 01:24:20.655
HEATING AND REFRIGERATION
01:24:20.722 --> 01:24:21.156
INSTITUTE, SPEAKING IN
01:24:21.222 --> 01:24:22.457
TESTIFYING ON BEHALF OF SENATOR
01:24:22.524 --> 01:24:26.828
ARCHULETTA. WELL, THANK YOU, MR
01:24:26.895 --> 01:24:28.797
CHAIR MEMBERS. ANTHONY SAMPSON.
01:24:28.863 --> 01:24:30.331
SAMPSON ADVISORS HERE ON BEHALF
01:24:30.398 --> 01:24:32.767
OF THE A O. SMITH CORPORATION.
01:24:32.834 --> 01:24:33.435
THEY'RE THE LARGEST MANUFACTURER
01:24:33.501 --> 01:24:34.436
OF WATER HEATERS IN NORTH
01:24:34.502 --> 01:24:38.506
AMERICA. UM WE APPRECIATE THE
01:24:38.573 --> 01:24:40.842
SENATOR PINCH HITTING TODAY. UM,
01:24:40.909 --> 01:24:42.544
YOU KNOW, WE'VE GONE THROUGH A
01:24:42.610 --> 01:24:45.046
LOT ON THIS BILL. IT'S GONE
01:24:45.113 --> 01:24:46.247
THROUGH MANY ITERATIONS, BUT AS
01:24:46.314 --> 01:24:48.450
AT A BASIC LEVEL, IT REALLY
01:24:48.516 --> 01:24:49.484
REQUIRES SOMETHING VERY SIMPLE,
01:24:49.551 --> 01:24:52.620
AND THAT IS TO ENSURE THAT
01:24:52.687 --> 01:24:54.556
CERTAIN CONVERSATIONS GO ON IN
01:24:54.622 --> 01:24:56.324
THE PUBLIC DISCOURSE AT THE
01:24:56.391 --> 01:24:57.692
LOCAL LEVEL, AS LOCALS ARE
01:24:57.759 --> 01:24:59.494
CONSIDERING ORDINANCES TO
01:24:59.561 --> 01:25:00.662
REQUIRE THE SWITCHING FROM GAS
01:25:00.728 --> 01:25:01.863
TO ELECTRIC APPLIANCES. DOES NOT
01:25:01.930 --> 01:25:06.201
REQUIRE. OR MANDATE ANY SPECIFIC
01:25:06.267 --> 01:25:07.902
OUTCOMES AS IT PERTAINS TO THOSE
01:25:07.969 --> 01:25:10.638
ORDINANCES AGAIN. IT SIMPLY
01:25:10.705 --> 01:25:12.440
REQUIRES LOCALS TO LOOK AT
01:25:12.507 --> 01:25:14.876
GUIDANCE AS EXPANDED UPON BY
01:25:14.943 --> 01:25:16.811
LAST YEAR'S SB 68 BY SENATOR
01:25:16.878 --> 01:25:19.814
BECKER. IT REQUIRES THEM TO LOOK
01:25:19.881 --> 01:25:21.282
AT THAT GUIDANCE DISCUSSED THAT
01:25:21.349 --> 01:25:22.951
GUIDANCE, AND FROM THERE, THEY
01:25:23.017 --> 01:25:24.085
CAN DECIDE TO ADOPT WHATEVER
01:25:24.152 --> 01:25:27.989
ORDINANCE THEY WISH. NOW THAT
01:25:28.056 --> 01:25:29.290
INFORMATION THEN HAS TO BE SENT
01:25:29.357 --> 01:25:30.892
TO THE CALIFORNIA ENERGY
01:25:30.959 --> 01:25:32.460
COMMISSION TO ENSURE THAT THE
01:25:32.527 --> 01:25:34.529
GUIDANCE WAS CONSIDERED. WE WERE
01:25:34.596 --> 01:25:36.364
VERY CAREFUL IN WORKING WITH THE
01:25:36.431 --> 01:25:37.432
CALIFORNIA LEAGUE OF CITIES IN
01:25:37.499 --> 01:25:38.399
CALIFORNIA STATE ASSOCIATION OF
01:25:38.466 --> 01:25:40.001
COUNTIES TO ENSURE THAT THAT
01:25:40.068 --> 01:25:41.769
CONSIDERATION WAS JUST THAT
01:25:41.836 --> 01:25:43.304
CONSIDERATION, NOT ADEQUATE
01:25:43.371 --> 01:25:45.440
CONSIDERATION, NOT SUFFICIENT
01:25:45.507 --> 01:25:47.442
CONSIDERATION, AND THE IDEA HERE
01:25:47.509 --> 01:25:48.476
WAS TO ENSURE THAT THE
01:25:48.543 --> 01:25:49.744
CALIFORNIA ENERGY COMMISSION
01:25:49.811 --> 01:25:50.812
WOULD NOT BE USURPING LOCAL
01:25:50.879 --> 01:25:52.780
AUTHORITY. OR STEPPING IN THE
01:25:52.847 --> 01:25:54.549
SHOES OF THE LOCAL JURISDICTION
01:25:54.616 --> 01:25:56.251
TO MAKE A DECISION ON ITS BEHALF
01:25:56.317 --> 01:25:56.885
. WE'RE PLEASED THAT WITH THOSE
01:25:56.951 --> 01:25:58.786
CHANGES CALIFORNIA LEAGUE OF
01:25:58.853 --> 01:26:00.188
CITIES SEE SO MANY OTHERS HAVE
01:26:00.255 --> 01:26:00.788
REMOVED OPPOSITION. WE DON'T
01:26:00.855 --> 01:26:04.425
THINK THIS IS, UM A SILVER
01:26:04.492 --> 01:26:05.793
BULLET TO ADDRESSING THE
01:26:05.860 --> 01:26:07.095
SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGES AHEAD ON
01:26:07.161 --> 01:26:08.363
BUILDING DECARBONIZATION AS IT
01:26:08.429 --> 01:26:10.365
RELATES TO EXISTING BUILDINGS.
01:26:10.431 --> 01:26:11.633
BUT WE THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT
01:26:11.699 --> 01:26:12.800
STEP FORWARD AND APPRECIATE YOUR
01:26:12.867 --> 01:26:14.502
I GO TODAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU
01:26:14.569 --> 01:26:17.071
NEXT WEEK. THANK YOU DON CAP
01:26:17.138 --> 01:26:17.805
KI<c.cyan> ACCU CAPTAIN ASSOCIATES ON</c>
01:26:17.872 --> 01:26:19.807
BEHALF OF THE AIR CONDITIONING,
01:26:19.874 --> 01:26:20.475
HEATING REFRIGERATION INSTITUTE,
01:26:20.542 --> 01:26:21.409
H. RYE AND ITS MEMBERS. THE
01:26:21.476 --> 01:26:23.344
BROADER H V. A C R INDUSTRY
01:26:23.411 --> 01:26:24.412
CERTAINLY VERY SUPPORTIVE OF
01:26:24.479 --> 01:26:27.782
ENERGY EFFICIENCY. AND CLIMATE
01:26:27.849 --> 01:26:29.350
PROTECTION MEASURES. PLEASED TO
01:26:29.417 --> 01:26:32.353
SUPPORT SB 13 93 IMPORTANTLY,
01:26:32.420 --> 01:26:33.788
FOR THE INDUSTRY, PARTICULARLY
01:26:33.855 --> 01:26:37.058
AS WE LOOK AT THE VAST STOCK OF
01:26:37.125 --> 01:26:38.393
, UM YOU KNOW, KIND OF
01:26:38.459 --> 01:26:40.795
APPLIANCES, HBC EQUIPMENT AND
01:26:40.862 --> 01:26:42.130
YOU KNOW THE NEED TO POTENTIALLY
01:26:42.196 --> 01:26:44.432
MOVE TOWARDS RETROFITS. HOW THE
01:26:44.499 --> 01:26:45.700
STATE APPROACHES THAT IS GOING
01:26:45.767 --> 01:26:47.635
TO BE REALLY IMPORTANT TO BE
01:26:47.702 --> 01:26:49.637
CONSIDERED, AND SOME LEVEL OF
01:26:49.704 --> 01:26:51.306
KIND OF SOME, YOU KNOW,
01:26:51.372 --> 01:26:52.674
CONSIDERATION FOR SOME OF THE
01:26:52.740 --> 01:26:54.075
CHALLENGES THAT THAT MAY FACE
01:26:54.142 --> 01:26:56.511
CERTAINLY WARRANTS KIND OF, YOU
01:26:56.578 --> 01:26:58.746
KNOW, CONSIDERATION AND, UM, YOU
01:26:58.813 --> 01:27:00.682
KNOW, WORK BY THE CTC TO PROVIDE
01:27:00.748 --> 01:27:02.116
SOME OF THAT TECHNICAL GUIDANCE
01:27:02.183 --> 01:27:04.419
AS MAY BE APPROPRIATE. AS WELL
01:27:04.485 --> 01:27:06.454
AS THE FACT THAT THAT WILL HELP
01:27:06.521 --> 01:27:07.488
IN TERMS OF SOME LEVEL OF
01:27:07.555 --> 01:27:08.289
STANDARDIZATION FOR THE
01:27:08.356 --> 01:27:10.458
COMPLIANCE PURPOSES AND NEEDS OF
01:27:10.525 --> 01:27:11.392
THE COMPANIES. SO FOR THESE
01:27:11.459 --> 01:27:12.760
REASONS, WE'RE PLEASED TO
01:27:12.827 --> 01:27:15.463
SUPPORT SB 13 93. THANK YOU. UH
01:27:15.530 --> 01:27:16.965
WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION PRIMARY
01:27:17.031 --> 01:27:17.899
WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION.
01:27:17.966 --> 01:27:26.207
ANYONE. WE'VE GOT. GOOD
01:27:26.274 --> 01:27:27.508
AFTERNOON CHAIR AND MEMBERS
01:27:27.575 --> 01:27:28.977
DANIEL BRAD ON BEHALF OF SIERRA
01:27:29.043 --> 01:27:30.478
CLUB, CALIFORNIA. WHAT WE
01:27:30.545 --> 01:27:31.980
APPRECIATE THE AUTHORS
01:27:32.046 --> 01:27:33.381
WILLINGNESS TO WORK WITH THE
01:27:33.448 --> 01:27:34.816
OPPONENTS OF THIS BILL, WE
01:27:34.882 --> 01:27:37.385
CONTINUE TO OPPOSE SB 13 93. AND
01:27:37.452 --> 01:27:38.586
THAT'S IT IS AMENDED TO REMOVE
01:27:38.653 --> 01:27:41.389
ALL THE PROCEDURAL BARRIERS THAT
01:27:41.456 --> 01:27:41.923
WOULD INHABIT THE STATE'S
01:27:41.990 --> 01:27:42.824
PROGRESS ON BUILDING
01:27:42.890 --> 01:27:44.659
DECARBONIZATION BY ADDING
01:27:44.726 --> 01:27:46.194
ORDINANCE REVIEW PERIODS FOR
01:27:46.260 --> 01:27:48.363
CITIES SEEKING TO ADOPT
01:27:48.429 --> 01:27:49.831
REQUIREMENTS THAT DANGEROUS AND
01:27:49.897 --> 01:27:50.331
POLLUTING FOSSIL FUELED
01:27:50.398 --> 01:27:53.301
APPLIANCES. ARE REPLACED WITH
01:27:53.368 --> 01:27:54.102
ZERO EMISSION ELECTRIC
01:27:54.168 --> 01:27:55.236
APPLIANCES UPON BUILDING
01:27:55.303 --> 01:27:58.539
ALTERATIONS. MANY CITIES HAVE
01:27:58.606 --> 01:28:00.141
ALREADY TAKEN STEPS TO REDUCE
01:28:00.208 --> 01:28:01.542
EMISSIONS FROM CALIFORNIA'S
01:28:01.609 --> 01:28:02.910
HOMES AND BUILDINGS BY ADOPTING
01:28:02.977 --> 01:28:04.112
ALL ELECTRIC BUILDING CODES FOR
01:28:04.178 --> 01:28:06.914
NEW CONSTRUCTION. UNDER CURRENT
01:28:06.981 --> 01:28:08.483
LAW, THE CTC ALREADY HAS
01:28:08.549 --> 01:28:10.618
RESPONSIBILITY TO REVIEW AND
01:28:10.685 --> 01:28:12.520
APPROVE LOCAL ADOPTION OF ENERGY
01:28:12.587 --> 01:28:14.389
STANDARDS. AS LONG AS THESE
01:28:14.455 --> 01:28:15.990
LOCAL STANDARDS ARE COST
01:28:16.057 --> 01:28:17.992
EFFECTIVE, AND THE CDC FINDS
01:28:18.059 --> 01:28:19.761
THAT THE STANDARDS WILL REQUIRE
01:28:19.827 --> 01:28:21.896
BUILDINGS TO BE DESIGNED TO
01:28:21.963 --> 01:28:22.497
CONSUME NO MORE ENERGY THAN
01:28:22.563 --> 01:28:23.665
PERMITTED BY THE CALIFORNIA
01:28:23.731 --> 01:28:26.567
ENERGY CODE. THESE REQUIREMENTS
01:28:26.634 --> 01:28:28.703
ARE SUFFICIENT AND ADDITIONAL
01:28:28.770 --> 01:28:29.737
REQUIREMENTS IN THIS BILL WOULD
01:28:29.804 --> 01:28:32.040
UNNECESSARILY DELAYED G H G IN
01:28:32.106 --> 01:28:34.809
CRITERIA EMISSION REDUCTIONS FOR
01:28:34.876 --> 01:28:36.511
THOSE REASONS, WE MUST OPPOSE SB
01:28:36.577 --> 01:28:37.979
13 93 UNLESS IT IS AMENDED
01:28:38.046 --> 01:28:39.347
FURTHER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
01:28:39.414 --> 01:28:42.984
ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK? AS
01:28:43.051 --> 01:28:44.185
A PRIMARY WITNESS IN OPPOSITION
01:28:44.252 --> 01:28:46.487
. SEE NO ONE THOSE IN THE ROOM
01:28:46.554 --> 01:28:53.327
AND SUPPORT PLEASE COME FORWARD.
01:28:53.394 --> 01:28:55.063
GOOD AFTERNOON JUSTIN PANTS ON
01:28:55.129 --> 01:28:55.596
BEHALF OF CALIFORNIA STATE
01:28:55.663 --> 01:28:56.698
TRADES COUNCIL SUPPORT. THANK
01:28:56.764 --> 01:29:00.635
YOU. ANYONE ELSE? OKAY, WE'LL GO
01:29:00.702 --> 01:29:04.038
TO THE MODERATOR. MR MODERATOR
01:29:04.105 --> 01:29:07.875
IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION. TO S B
01:29:07.942 --> 01:29:09.844
13 93. WE HAVE ONE PERSON BEFORE
01:29:09.911 --> 01:29:13.815
WE GO TO THE PHONE LINES.
01:29:13.881 --> 01:29:15.583
THEY'RE MARION BERGERSEN WITH
01:29:15.650 --> 01:29:16.584
NATURAL RESOURCES DEFENSE
01:29:16.651 --> 01:29:17.618
COUNCIL. WE'RE MOVING TO A
01:29:17.685 --> 01:29:18.586
NEUTRAL POSITION FROM
01:29:18.653 --> 01:29:21.656
OPPOSITION. ALL RIGHT. NOW WE'LL
01:29:21.723 --> 01:29:23.558
GO TO THE MODERATOR, WAIT ONE
01:29:23.624 --> 01:29:25.993
MORE. SORRY, MR CHAIR BARK
01:29:26.060 --> 01:29:28.196
FINSTER MAKER ON BEHALF OF EARTH
01:29:28.262 --> 01:29:28.763
JUSTICE WERE TO OPPOSE LESS
01:29:28.830 --> 01:29:29.731
EMBEDDED FOR THE REASONS STATED
01:29:29.797 --> 01:29:31.532
BY SIERRA CLUB. THANK YOU. CAN
01:29:31.599 --> 01:29:33.935
WE GO TO THE MODERATOR? IT'S A
01:29:34.001 --> 01:29:38.439
MODERATOR. YOU WITH US. THANK
01:29:38.506 --> 01:29:39.640
YOU, MR CHAIR. WE'RE GONNA GO TO
01:29:39.707 --> 01:29:46.447
LINE 47. AGO. 47 YEAR LINE IS
01:29:46.514 --> 01:29:53.588
NOW OPEN. PARDON ME. WE'RE GOING
01:29:53.654 --> 01:29:58.693
TO MOVE ON TO LINE 20. NEXT
01:29:58.760 --> 01:29:59.427
LETTER ON BEHALF OF THE
01:29:59.494 --> 01:30:00.461
CALIFORNIA BUILDING INDUSTRY
01:30:00.528 --> 01:30:03.931
ASSOCIATION AND SUPPORT. FLYING
01:30:03.998 --> 01:30:10.872
76. REX W. HEIM OF CALIFORNIA
01:30:10.938 --> 01:30:11.506
BUSINESS PROPERTIES ASSOCIATION
01:30:11.572 --> 01:30:12.974
IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK
01:30:13.040 --> 01:30:19.881
YOU. LINE 37. HELLO MY NAME IS
01:30:19.947 --> 01:30:21.249
LAURA HAIDER PRESENCE AGAINST
01:30:21.315 --> 01:30:24.352
FRACKING AND, UM, OPPOSED. THIS
01:30:24.418 --> 01:30:28.122
BILL HAS BEEN 393. I'M SORRY.
01:30:28.189 --> 01:30:29.590
WAIT A MINUTE. YEAH, I THINK
01:30:29.657 --> 01:30:31.292
THAT WAS NO. WHAT WAS SOMEONE?
01:30:31.359 --> 01:30:33.728
BROTHER WE'RE TALKING ABOUT YOU
01:30:33.795 --> 01:30:38.966
13 93. AND ONCE AGAIN FOR THOSE
01:30:39.033 --> 01:30:41.402
WHO WISH TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OR
01:30:41.469 --> 01:30:42.770
OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL, PLEASE
01:30:42.837 --> 01:30:44.605
PRESS ONE AND ZERO. WE'RE GOING
01:30:44.672 --> 01:30:50.044
TO GO TO LINE 55. PARDON ME. GO
01:30:50.111 --> 01:30:52.079
AHEAD AFTERNOON STILL HIGH
01:30:52.146 --> 01:30:53.648
COUNTING ON BEHALF OF THE CITY
01:30:53.714 --> 01:30:54.849
OF SANTA ROSA IN OPPOSITION,
01:30:54.916 --> 01:30:57.051
RESPECTFULLY, THANK YOU. LINE
01:30:57.118 --> 01:31:03.324
NINE. JANET COX FOR 3 50 SILICON
01:31:03.391 --> 01:31:04.358
VALLEY IN OPPOSITION TO THIS
01:31:04.425 --> 01:31:13.334
BILL. LINE 34. 9 34 YEAR OLD
01:31:13.401 --> 01:31:18.372
LINE IS NOW OPEN. AND TO MOVE ON
01:31:18.439 --> 01:31:23.144
TO LINE 19. GOOD AFTERNOON IS
01:31:23.211 --> 01:31:24.378
ABRAHAM AND DOESN'T CALIFORNIA
01:31:24.445 --> 01:31:25.246
ASSOCIATION OF REALTORS IN
01:31:25.313 --> 01:31:29.317
SUPPORT? MR CHAIR. THERE IS NO
01:31:29.383 --> 01:31:30.985
ONE ELSE TO SIGNAL THAT THEY
01:31:31.052 --> 01:31:32.920
WISH TO SPEAK. THANK YOU MASKED
01:31:32.987 --> 01:31:33.988
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE ANY
01:31:34.055 --> 01:31:36.224
QUESTIONS? NOT YET. BUT PLEASE,
01:31:36.290 --> 01:31:38.192
WE'RE MOTION. SECOND SQUIRT
01:31:38.259 --> 01:31:41.963
QUESTION. GREAT, BILL. UM CITY
01:31:42.029 --> 01:31:44.298
OF ALLAH SAYS DON'T GET IN OUR
01:31:44.365 --> 01:31:45.766
WAY. FINE FOR THE CITY OF L A,
01:31:45.833 --> 01:31:48.636
BUT HAVING BEING ON A CITY
01:31:48.703 --> 01:31:50.238
COUNCIL IN A MEDIUM SIZED CITY
01:31:50.304 --> 01:31:51.939
AND EVEN FOR A SMALL FOR A
01:31:52.006 --> 01:31:53.207
SMALLER CITY, LIKE, SAY, PATROL
01:31:53.274 --> 01:31:57.578
A VALLEY CITY. VILLAGE OF 5000.
01:31:57.645 --> 01:31:58.946
IF THEY WANT TO DO SOMETHING TO
01:31:59.013 --> 01:32:01.616
THEIR CODES. THEY'RE REALLY
01:32:01.682 --> 01:32:03.251
GOING TO NEED HELP, AND THAT'S
01:32:03.317 --> 01:32:06.187
WHAT THIS IS MEANT FOR, AND IT'S
01:32:06.254 --> 01:32:08.522
A GREAT BILL. AND UH, I'D LIKE
01:32:08.589 --> 01:32:11.192
TO BE A CO AUTHOR. GREAT IF
01:32:11.259 --> 01:32:12.326
THERE'S TIME THERE MAY NOT BE
01:32:12.393 --> 01:32:16.430
BUT PUT ME DOWN. SURE. I CAN
01:32:16.497 --> 01:32:17.431
TELL YOU THERE'S ALWAYS TIME.
01:32:17.498 --> 01:32:18.633
ALRIGHT I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER
01:32:18.699 --> 01:32:20.735
QUESTIONS TO DO THIS. OTHER
01:32:20.801 --> 01:32:22.770
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. WOULD YOU
01:32:22.837 --> 01:32:25.172
LIKE TO CLOSE? YEAH THANK YOU
01:32:25.239 --> 01:32:26.374
VERY MUCH FOR THE CO AFTER. I
01:32:26.440 --> 01:32:29.076
THINK I WAS MAKING A NOTE HERE.
01:32:29.143 --> 01:32:30.144
KING. JUST RESPECTFULLY,
01:32:30.211 --> 01:32:31.145
ASTRONAUT. THANK YOU. WE'LL CALL
01:32:31.212 --> 01:32:35.149
THE QUESTION ON THAT. ITEM
01:32:35.216 --> 01:32:37.251
NUMBER ONE SP 13 93. YEAH, WE
01:32:37.318 --> 01:32:43.190
DID. AMAZING COURT. ITEM NUMBER
01:32:43.257 --> 01:32:45.893
ONE SB 13 93. THE MOTION IS DUE
01:32:45.960 --> 01:32:48.329
PASS TO LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
01:32:48.396 --> 01:32:50.564
EDUARDO GARCIA, EDUARDO GARCIA,
01:32:50.631 --> 01:32:51.732
I PATERSON, PATERSON. I
01:32:51.799 --> 01:32:53.868
BARRICADE KH. KOREA CHEN
01:32:53.935 --> 01:32:57.872
CHENNAI CUNNINGHAM PHÊN. SONG I
01:32:57.939 --> 01:33:00.541
, CRISTINA GARCIA HOLDEN MAZE.
01:33:00.608 --> 01:33:04.912
MAYS. I MURATSUCHI QUIRK. QUIRK
01:33:04.979 --> 01:33:07.648
I RAISE SANTIAGO TING. THAT'S
01:33:07.715 --> 01:33:12.553
60. OKAY? NO WE HAVE YOU THERE
01:33:12.620 --> 01:33:14.455
IN THE CHAIR. CAN I JUST TAKE
01:33:14.522 --> 01:33:15.623
THIS QUICKLY UP HERE? IS THAT
01:33:15.690 --> 01:33:17.959
OKAY? YOU MY, UH, YEAH, YOUR
01:33:18.025 --> 01:33:19.694
FRIEND LET YOU KNOW WHEN YOU
01:33:19.760 --> 01:33:23.698
WALK OUT THAT IS THAT TRUE? YEAH
01:33:23.764 --> 01:33:26.000
WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME THE BELL
01:33:26.067 --> 01:33:27.501
. THANK YOU. I'LL MAKE THIS FAST
01:33:27.568 --> 01:33:29.470
. WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME DEALING
01:33:29.537 --> 01:33:31.172
WITH ALL THESE STANDARDS AND
01:33:31.238 --> 01:33:33.207
TRYING TO CONVERT FROM, UH TO
01:33:33.274 --> 01:33:35.042
RENEWABLE IN THE GOD'S IN THE
01:33:35.109 --> 01:33:36.577
DETAILS OF MAKING THIS HAPPEN,
01:33:36.644 --> 01:33:38.145
AND A LOT OF THE PROBLEMS AREN'T
01:33:38.212 --> 01:33:39.046
TRANSMISSION. SO WHAT WE'RE
01:33:39.113 --> 01:33:40.481
DOING WITH THIS MEASURE? IS
01:33:40.548 --> 01:33:41.849
TRYING TO HARMONIZE ALL THESE
01:33:41.916 --> 01:33:43.517
DIFFERENT GOVERNMENT STUFF
01:33:43.584 --> 01:33:45.586
THAT'S OUT THERE IS IT RELATES
01:33:45.653 --> 01:33:47.355
TO TRANSMISSION SO THAT AS WE
01:33:47.421 --> 01:33:50.091
DEAL WITH RENEWABLE ASSETS, WE
01:33:50.157 --> 01:33:51.359
ALSO PRIORITIZED TRANSMISSION
01:33:51.425 --> 01:33:52.426
BECAUSE WITHOUT TRANSMISSION
01:33:52.493 --> 01:33:55.696
YOU'VE GOT A BUNCH OF SOLAR
01:33:55.763 --> 01:33:58.232
FIELDS IN YOUR DISTRICT WITH
01:33:58.299 --> 01:33:59.467
THAT IS WHAT I'M THE WITNESS
01:33:59.533 --> 01:34:00.868
OKAY AND SUPPORT. IN OPPOSITION.
01:34:00.935 --> 01:34:08.509
PLEASE COME FORWARD. JUST YOU
01:34:08.576 --> 01:34:10.044
KNOW, YOU JUST GOT THE SIDE EYE
01:34:10.111 --> 01:34:12.013
RIGHT NOW. SENATOR REDFORD? YEAH
01:34:12.079 --> 01:34:15.149
I'M IN TROUBLE. AFTERNOON CHAIR
01:34:15.216 --> 01:34:16.050
MEMBERS. NICOLINA HERNANDEZ
01:34:16.117 --> 01:34:17.051
WOULD SAY LEGAL, GAS AND
01:34:17.118 --> 01:34:19.020
ELECTRIC. WE ARE OPPOSED UNLESS
01:34:19.086 --> 01:34:20.654
AMENDED. WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH
01:34:20.721 --> 01:34:21.489
THE AUTHOR, HIS STAFF AND THE
01:34:21.555 --> 01:34:22.923
SPONSORS AND APPRECIATE THE
01:34:22.990 --> 01:34:24.592
DISCUSSIONS THAT WE HAVE HAD UP
01:34:24.658 --> 01:34:26.293
TO THIS POINT. WE'D LIKE TO BE
01:34:26.360 --> 01:34:26.894
ENTHUSIASTICALLY IN COMPLIANCE
01:34:26.961 --> 01:34:27.762
WITH THE REPORTING REQUIREMENTS
01:34:27.828 --> 01:34:29.397
OF THE BILL. AND WITH THAT JUST
01:34:29.463 --> 01:34:31.499
NEED A FEW MORE TWEAKS. WE
01:34:31.565 --> 01:34:32.500
UNDERSTAND THE COMMITTEE HAS
01:34:32.566 --> 01:34:33.667
PROPOSED AMENDMENTS FOR THAT,
01:34:33.734 --> 01:34:35.703
BUT MAINTAINED THAT ON THE ONE
01:34:35.770 --> 01:34:37.705
HAND IN TERMS OF THE SERVICE,
01:34:37.772 --> 01:34:39.006
DATES OF ELIGIBLE RENEWABLE
01:34:39.073 --> 01:34:40.207
RESOURCES OR ENERGY STORAGE
01:34:40.274 --> 01:34:42.109
RESOURCES THAT HAVE BEEN
01:34:42.176 --> 01:34:42.810
EXECUTED INTERNET
01:34:42.877 --> 01:34:46.847
INTERCONNECTION AGREEMENTS. WE
01:34:46.914 --> 01:34:49.016
THINK IS A LITTLE REDUNDANT,
01:34:49.083 --> 01:34:51.385
PROBABLY UNNECESSARY. THE S
01:34:51.452 --> 01:34:52.286
ALREADY ISSUES MONTHLY STATUS
01:34:52.353 --> 01:34:54.388
UPDATES FOR THESE AND THE OTHER
01:34:54.455 --> 01:34:56.624
POINT FOR IOS I WILL USE TO
01:34:56.690 --> 01:34:58.926
REPORT IS RELATED TO, UM REASONS
01:34:58.993 --> 01:35:01.162
FOR DELAYS. AND ON THIS
01:35:01.228 --> 01:35:04.065
PARTICULAR ISSUE. UM UH, WE
01:35:04.131 --> 01:35:05.199
WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT
01:35:05.266 --> 01:35:06.333
INFORMATION BECAUSE WE WOULDN'T
01:35:06.400 --> 01:35:07.301
HAVE THAT INFORMATION. WE CAN
01:35:07.368 --> 01:35:09.203
REPORT DELAYS FOR THINGS THAT WE
01:35:09.270 --> 01:35:13.140
THAT WE OWN OR OPERATE, BUT FOR
01:35:13.207 --> 01:35:14.341
THINGS OUTSIDE OF OUR CONTROL
01:35:14.408 --> 01:35:15.776
AND OUR OPERATION, WE WOULDN'T
01:35:15.843 --> 01:35:17.344
BE ABLE TO SO HAPPY TO CONTINUE
01:35:17.411 --> 01:35:18.079
HAVING CONVERSATIONS AND
01:35:18.145 --> 01:35:19.380
DISCUSSIONS WITH THE AUTHOR'S
01:35:19.447 --> 01:35:21.382
OFFICE AND TO GET TO GET TO A
01:35:21.449 --> 01:35:22.983
POINT OF SUPPORT. UM SO THANK
01:35:23.050 --> 01:35:25.653
YOU FOR YOUR TIME. BY THE WAY, I
01:35:25.719 --> 01:35:27.755
JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S
01:35:27.822 --> 01:35:28.823
CLEAR ACCEPT THE AMENDMENTS.
01:35:28.889 --> 01:35:34.361
PRIMARY WITNESS. ROOM. YOU WANT
01:35:34.428 --> 01:35:37.631
TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL.
01:35:37.698 --> 01:35:38.766
YES, MR CHAIR MEMBERS, BRIAN
01:35:38.833 --> 01:35:39.867
WHITE ON BEHALF OF OFFSHORE
01:35:39.934 --> 01:35:44.472
WIND, CALIFORNIA AND SUPPORT.
01:35:44.538 --> 01:35:46.474
RACHEL COST ON BEHALF OF THE
01:35:46.540 --> 01:35:47.541
COALITION OF CALIFORNIA UTILITY
01:35:47.608 --> 01:35:51.645
EMPLOYEES AND SUPPORT. CARLY
01:35:51.712 --> 01:35:52.813
WALKING ON BEHALF OF THE
01:35:52.880 --> 01:35:54.014
CALIFORNIA STATE ASSOCIATION OF
01:35:54.081 --> 01:35:55.116
ELECTRICAL WORKERS AND SUPPORT
01:35:55.182 --> 01:35:57.118
THANK YOU. ONE IN THE ROOM.
01:35:57.184 --> 01:36:13.334
POSITION.
01:36:14.001 --> 01:36:17.037
PARDON ME. THIS IS THE A T AND T
01:36:17.104 --> 01:36:19.039
MODERATOR. YOU'RE REQUESTING
01:36:19.106 --> 01:36:21.142
PEOPLE THAT SPEAK IN SUPPORT OR
01:36:21.208 --> 01:36:23.244
OPPOSITION OF THE BILL. IS THAT
01:36:23.310 --> 01:36:27.548
CORRECT? 11 7. OKAY THERE'S
01:36:27.615 --> 01:36:29.116
SOMETHING THAT YOUR AUDIO HAS
01:36:29.183 --> 01:36:30.751
CHANGED SUBSTANTIALLY. BUT FOR
01:36:30.818 --> 01:36:32.286
THOSE WHO WISH TO SPEAK IN
01:36:32.353 --> 01:36:33.721
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO THIS
01:36:33.787 --> 01:36:35.823
BILL, PLEASE PRESS 10 AT THIS
01:36:35.890 --> 01:36:42.263
TIME. VOLUME SLOW. WAS USING MY
01:36:42.329 --> 01:36:47.768
INSIDE VOICE. YEAH. OKAY, WE'RE
01:36:47.835 --> 01:36:53.207
GONNA GO. TO LINE 50. GRACE OF
01:36:53.274 --> 01:36:54.475
THE CALIFORNIA ENERGY STORAGE
01:36:54.542 --> 01:37:07.788
LINES AND SUPPORT. LINE 51. 9
01:37:07.855 --> 01:37:12.459
51. YOUR LINE IS NOW OPEN.
01:37:12.526 --> 01:37:13.661
JUSTICE SANTIAGO RODRIGUEZ WITH
01:37:13.727 --> 01:37:14.595
CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL VOTERS
01:37:14.662 --> 01:37:21.969
IN SUPPORT. LINE 78. FOREIGN
01:37:22.036 --> 01:37:23.604
CHAIR MEMBERS REFLECTED ALSO ON
01:37:23.671 --> 01:37:25.139
BEHALF OF STOP WAYS.
01:37:25.206 --> 01:37:25.773
UNFORTUNATELY, WE ARE IN
01:37:25.839 --> 01:37:26.974
OPPOSITION APOLOGIZE FOR THE
01:37:27.041 --> 01:37:28.742
LATE OPPOSITION TO THE BILL.
01:37:28.809 --> 01:37:36.350
THANK YOU. LINE 79. AMBER SAY HI
01:37:36.417 --> 01:37:37.718
WITH THREATENED PRICE CONSULTING
01:37:37.785 --> 01:37:39.253
ON BEHALF OF AMERICAN CLEAN
01:37:39.320 --> 01:37:40.588
POWER, AN L AND ENVIRONMENTAL
01:37:40.654 --> 01:37:45.459
DEFENSE FUND AND SUPPORT. AND
01:37:45.526 --> 01:37:46.994
THERE IS NO ONE ELSE TO SIGNAL
01:37:47.061 --> 01:37:49.163
BUT THEY WISH TO SPEAK. THANK
01:37:49.230 --> 01:37:49.997
YOU, MODERATOR. WE'LL BRING IT
01:37:50.064 --> 01:37:51.265
BACK TO THE MEMBER'S QUESTIONS,
01:37:51.332 --> 01:37:55.369
COMMENTS. DO WE HAVE A MOTION?
01:37:55.436 --> 01:37:57.771
SOME OF ALRIGHT WOULD LIKE TO
01:37:57.838 --> 01:37:59.840
CLOSE. I WOULD. I MOVED IT
01:37:59.907 --> 01:38:03.244
EARLIER, BUT WE'RE GOOD. I JUST
01:38:03.310 --> 01:38:04.545
WANT TO SAY SOMETHING BECAUSE
01:38:04.612 --> 01:38:05.646
THIS MAY BE THE LAST TIME BEFORE
01:38:05.713 --> 01:38:06.680
THIS COMMITTEE. NOT EXACTLY
01:38:06.747 --> 01:38:08.983
SURE, BUT IT MIGHT BE I LOOK IN
01:38:09.049 --> 01:38:10.951
THIS ROOM BEHIND ME, AND THERE'S
01:38:11.018 --> 01:38:13.487
KIP LIPPER. I SPENT MORE NIGHTS
01:38:13.554 --> 01:38:15.389
THAN EVERYONE HAS BEEN WITH
01:38:15.456 --> 01:38:17.725
ANYBODY, AND I GOT A LITTLE BIT
01:38:17.791 --> 01:38:20.227
OF ENERGY CRISIS PTSD. AND ONE
01:38:20.294 --> 01:38:22.229
OF THE REASONS I CAME BACK TO
01:38:22.296 --> 01:38:23.764
GOVERNMENTS FEW YEARS AGO. WAS
01:38:23.831 --> 01:38:25.833
TO WORK ON THE DETAILS, AND WHEN
01:38:25.899 --> 01:38:27.301
I SAID GOD IS IN THE DETAILS, WE
01:38:27.368 --> 01:38:29.937
DO ALL THIS FANCY SEMANSKY STUFF
01:38:30.004 --> 01:38:31.272
OF PERCENTAGES AND ALL THIS
01:38:31.338 --> 01:38:32.740
STUFF BUT TO MAKE THIS
01:38:32.806 --> 01:38:33.807
TRANSITION THAT WE'RE TRYING TO
01:38:33.874 --> 01:38:35.843
MAKE. AND INFORMS THE WORK OF
01:38:35.909 --> 01:38:36.977
THIS COMMITTEE SO HEAVILY IS
01:38:37.044 --> 01:38:39.813
HARD. AND LOTS OF THESE THINGS
01:38:39.880 --> 01:38:40.881
DON'T SEEM LIKE THEY'RE BIG
01:38:40.948 --> 01:38:42.116
DEALS, BUT THEY'RE CRITICAL.
01:38:42.182 --> 01:38:43.284
BECAUSE WHEN YOU ANALYZE YOU
01:38:43.350 --> 01:38:44.218
START TO DECONSTRUCT WHAT
01:38:44.285 --> 01:38:45.719
HAPPENED TO US BEFORE IT WAS
01:38:45.786 --> 01:38:47.755
MISSING THESE SIGNALS IT WAS
01:38:47.821 --> 01:38:48.722
MISSING THIS COORDINATION. YOU
01:38:48.789 --> 01:38:49.556
NEED A LITTLE BIT OF BELTS AND
01:38:49.623 --> 01:38:51.759
SUSPENDERS ON SOME OF THIS STUFF
01:38:51.825 --> 01:38:52.660
SOMETIMES BECAUSE OF THE LIGHTS
01:38:52.726 --> 01:38:54.762
GO OUT. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE
01:38:54.828 --> 01:38:56.063
ARE IN BIG TROUBLE AGAIN. THAT
01:38:56.130 --> 01:38:57.698
CAN'T HAPPEN. SO ALL I'M
01:38:57.765 --> 01:38:59.667
SUGGESTING IS THIS MAY NOT BE A
01:38:59.733 --> 01:39:01.035
BIG ATTENTION GRABBER AND A LOT
01:39:01.101 --> 01:39:02.336
OF THINGS THAT WE NEED TO BE
01:39:02.403 --> 01:39:04.104
DOING AS YOU SAW WITH MR
01:39:04.171 --> 01:39:06.140
BECKER'S BILL AND OTHER BILLS
01:39:06.206 --> 01:39:07.241
THAT ARE HERE TODAY, AND BEFORE
01:39:07.308 --> 01:39:07.841
THIS COMMITTEE IS REALLY GOD'S
01:39:07.908 --> 01:39:09.510
WORK IN TERMS OF FIGURING OUT IN
01:39:09.576 --> 01:39:11.512
THE GREATEST LEVEL OF DETAIL AND
01:39:11.578 --> 01:39:13.347
HOW TO DO IT AND CONTINUE TO
01:39:13.414 --> 01:39:14.782
COURSE CORRECT. AND SO THAT'S
01:39:14.848 --> 01:39:15.582
ONE HERE TODAY. THAT'S WHY EVERY
01:39:15.649 --> 01:39:17.384
SINGLE YEAR YOU'LL SEE ME DOING
01:39:17.451 --> 01:39:19.186
THIS BILL. AND THAT'S WHY I'M
01:39:19.253 --> 01:39:20.654
GLAD IF THIS IS MY LAST
01:39:20.721 --> 01:39:22.189
COMMITTEE. I'M HERE WITH MR
01:39:22.256 --> 01:39:23.657
LIPPER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I
01:39:23.724 --> 01:39:25.693
ASKED FOR AN I VOTE. THANK YOU,
01:39:25.759 --> 01:39:26.860
MR MR SENATOR HERTZBERG, AND
01:39:26.927 --> 01:39:29.697
WE'LL CALL THE QUESTION. ITEM
01:39:29.763 --> 01:39:32.766
NUMBER SEVEN SB 11 74. THE
01:39:32.833 --> 01:39:34.868
MOTION IS DUE PASSES AMENDED TO
01:39:34.935 --> 01:39:35.602
APPROPRIATIONS AT BORDEAUX
01:39:35.669 --> 01:39:38.072
GARCIA, EDUARDO GARCIA, I
01:39:38.138 --> 01:39:39.006
PATERSON PATERSON EYEBROW
01:39:39.073 --> 01:39:43.143
BAUER-KAHAN CARILLO. CHAN. CHEN
01:39:43.210 --> 01:39:45.713
I CUNNINGHAM, FONG FONG,
01:39:45.779 --> 01:39:49.783
CRISTINA GARCIA HOLDEN MAZE. I
01:39:49.850 --> 01:39:53.687
MURATSUCHI CORK I RAISE.
01:39:53.754 --> 01:39:55.723
SANTIAGO CHANG. THAT'S SIX.
01:39:55.789 --> 01:39:57.491
OKAY. WE'LL LEAVE THAT OPEN FOR
01:39:57.558 --> 01:39:59.460
OTHER MEMBERS THAT FOR ME THAT I
01:39:59.526 --> 01:40:04.631
HAVE ANOTHER ABOUT OKAY. OKAY
01:40:04.698 --> 01:40:05.599
WE'LL STRIKE THAT FROM THE
01:40:05.666 --> 01:40:06.734
RECORD. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.
01:40:06.800 --> 01:40:15.509
THANK YEAH. NEXT. NEXT TIME,
01:40:15.576 --> 01:40:24.852
SENATOR BRADFORD. 14 69. WELCOME
01:40:24.918 --> 01:40:29.690
THANK YOU, MR CHAIR AND. YES. 14
01:40:29.757 --> 01:40:32.059
69 WELL AUTHORIZED TO CALIFORNIA
01:40:32.126 --> 01:40:34.261
PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION TO
01:40:34.328 --> 01:40:37.064
UTILIZE THE RATE MAKING PROCESS
01:40:37.131 --> 01:40:38.132
REFERRED TO AS DECOUPLING TO
01:40:38.198 --> 01:40:39.833
PROMOTE. WATER CONSERVATION
01:40:39.900 --> 01:40:44.204
CURRENTLY. ALRIGHT I RESPECT
01:40:44.271 --> 01:40:47.408
FAST FRY VOTE BUT SP 14 69
01:40:47.474 --> 01:40:48.609
ADVANCES WATER CONSERVATION BY
01:40:48.675 --> 01:40:50.778
AUTHORIZING THE PUC TO IMPLEMENT
01:40:50.844 --> 01:40:52.045
THE COUPLING RATES FROM WATER
01:40:52.112 --> 01:40:53.614
SHELLS REPLICATING FOR DECADES
01:40:53.680 --> 01:40:56.784
OF SUCCESS OF ENERGY UTILITIES.
01:40:56.850 --> 01:40:58.285
HAVE HAD WITH THE COUPLING
01:40:58.352 --> 01:40:59.820
DECOUPLING SERVICES ONLY BETWEEN
01:40:59.887 --> 01:41:01.922
THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT
01:41:01.989 --> 01:41:04.057
CUSTOMERS USE AND UTILITY FIND
01:41:04.124 --> 01:41:05.959
FINANCES INSTEAD OF REALIZING
01:41:06.026 --> 01:41:08.095
WINDFALL PROFITS WHEN CUSTOMERS
01:41:08.162 --> 01:41:09.496
USE MORE WATER UTILITIES ONLY
01:41:09.563 --> 01:41:12.332
RECOVER COST THE COMMISSION
01:41:12.399 --> 01:41:14.301
DETERMINES IS NEEDED TO OPERATE
01:41:14.368 --> 01:41:15.669
THEIR SYSTEM. IN SHORT,
01:41:15.736 --> 01:41:16.770
DECOUPLING BREAKS THE ADDICTION
01:41:16.837 --> 01:41:20.040
OF WATER SHELLS. AND FREEING
01:41:20.107 --> 01:41:21.041
UTILITIES TO FOCUS ON PROMOTING
01:41:21.108 --> 01:41:23.343
ROBUST WATER KANSEN CONSERVATION
01:41:23.410 --> 01:41:25.446
FOR CHANGE, AND I RESPECT THE
01:41:25.512 --> 01:41:26.513
ASTRA I VOTING HERE TESTIFYING
01:41:26.580 --> 01:41:28.515
AND SUPPORT IS ROMNEY, COLIN AND
01:41:28.582 --> 01:41:29.817
LINDA VOTE. SO THANK YOU. PLEASE
01:41:29.883 --> 01:41:33.987
PROCEED. OKAY, SO THANK YOU
01:41:34.054 --> 01:41:35.522
EVERY MR CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF
01:41:35.589 --> 01:41:37.324
THE COMMITTEE MY NAME IS RAMI
01:41:37.391 --> 01:41:38.759
KAYLEN. I CURRENTLY SERVE AS
01:41:38.826 --> 01:41:39.693
DIRECTOR OF REGULATORY AFFAIRS
01:41:39.760 --> 01:41:41.528
FOR CALIFORNIA WATER SERVICE,
01:41:41.595 --> 01:41:42.529
THE LARGEST WATER UTILITY
01:41:42.596 --> 01:41:45.466
REGULATED BY THE PUC. PREVIOUSLY
01:41:45.532 --> 01:41:47.134
I SERVED AS DIRECTOR OF THE
01:41:47.201 --> 01:41:48.602
WATER DIVISION AT THE PUC FROM
01:41:48.669 --> 01:41:51.672
2000 AND SEVEN THROUGH 2019 AT
01:41:51.738 --> 01:41:53.006
THE OUTSET. I'D LIKE TO THANK
01:41:53.073 --> 01:41:55.175
SENATORS BRADFORD AND BECKER FOR
01:41:55.242 --> 01:41:56.410
THEIR LEADERSHIP ON THIS
01:41:56.477 --> 01:41:57.644
CRITICALLY IMPORTANT ISSUE AND
01:41:57.711 --> 01:41:59.580
OFFER MY SUPPORT FOR THE BILL.
01:41:59.646 --> 01:42:01.748
THE RATIONALE FOR SENATE BILL 14
01:42:01.815 --> 01:42:03.851
69 BOILS DOWN TO BASICALLY TWO
01:42:03.917 --> 01:42:04.785
FACTORS CONSERVATION AND
01:42:04.852 --> 01:42:06.987
AFFORDABILITY. CALIFORNIA HAS A
01:42:07.054 --> 01:42:08.655
GOAL TO MAKE WATER CONSERVATION
01:42:08.722 --> 01:42:10.757
A WAY OF LIFE. THE CURRENT
01:42:10.824 --> 01:42:11.725
DROUGHT HIGHLIGHTS JUST HOW
01:42:11.792 --> 01:42:13.193
IMPORTANT THAT GOAL IS.
01:42:13.260 --> 01:42:14.761
CONSERVATION IS NOT SOMETHING
01:42:14.828 --> 01:42:16.430
THAT WE PRACTICE DURING DROUGHTS
01:42:16.497 --> 01:42:17.431
WITH CLIMATE CHANGE. IT MEANS
01:42:17.498 --> 01:42:20.100
IT'S A DAILY IMPERATIVE. SB 14
01:42:20.167 --> 01:42:22.202
69 ADVANCES THAT GOAL BY
01:42:22.269 --> 01:42:24.505
ENABLING WATER UTILITIES TO TAKE
01:42:24.571 --> 01:42:25.539
ADVANTAGE OF THE INDUSTRY BEST
01:42:25.606 --> 01:42:27.574
PRACTICE KNOWN AS DECOUPLING,
01:42:27.641 --> 01:42:29.643
MAKING PERMANENT A PILOT PROGRAM
01:42:29.710 --> 01:42:30.878
, THE PUC LAUNCHED BACK IN 2000
01:42:30.944 --> 01:42:34.281
AND EIGHT THE CPUC ZONE WATER
01:42:34.348 --> 01:42:35.849
ACTION PLAN THAT I HELPED DRAFT
01:42:35.916 --> 01:42:38.218
IN 2000 AND FIVE SET FORTH THE
01:42:38.285 --> 01:42:39.553
POLICY OBJECTIVE TO APPLY BEST
01:42:39.620 --> 01:42:41.154
PRACTICES FROM THE ENERGY
01:42:41.221 --> 01:42:44.191
UTILITIES TO THE WATER UTILITIES
01:42:44.258 --> 01:42:45.859
, INCLUDING DECOUPLING, WE
01:42:45.926 --> 01:42:47.060
ESSENTIALLY CHANGED THE BUSINESS
01:42:47.127 --> 01:42:47.761
MODEL FROM SELLING WATER TO
01:42:47.828 --> 01:42:50.364
CONSERVING WATER. SO DECOUPLING
01:42:50.430 --> 01:42:51.698
HAS BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN HELPING
01:42:51.765 --> 01:42:54.167
PC REGULATED UTILITIES ACHIEVED
01:42:54.234 --> 01:42:55.736
CONSERVATION. AFTER THE LAST
01:42:55.802 --> 01:42:57.538
DROUGHT. WE HAD A PEER REVIEWED
01:42:57.604 --> 01:42:58.539
STUDY THAT COMPARED THE
01:42:58.605 --> 01:42:59.573
CONSERVATION PERFORMANCE OF PUC
01:42:59.640 --> 01:43:02.776
REGULATED UTILITIES WHO COULD
01:43:02.843 --> 01:43:04.478
USE THE COUPLING TO THOSE WHO
01:43:04.545 --> 01:43:05.679
COULDN'T AND THE STUDY FOUND
01:43:05.746 --> 01:43:07.948
THAT THE PUC REGULATED UTILITIES
01:43:08.015 --> 01:43:09.650
NOT ONLY SAVED CONSIDERABLY MORE
01:43:09.716 --> 01:43:11.118
WATER THAN THEIR COUNTERPARTS,
01:43:11.184 --> 01:43:12.586
BUT ALSO THEY WERE TWICE AS
01:43:12.653 --> 01:43:14.187
LIKELY TO MEET THEIR
01:43:14.254 --> 01:43:15.122
CONSERVATION STANDARDS SET BY
01:43:15.188 --> 01:43:17.758
GOVERNOR BROWN. THE BILL ALSO
01:43:17.824 --> 01:43:18.825
ADVANCES THE STATE'S GOAL TO
01:43:18.892 --> 01:43:20.894
ENSURE WATER AFFORDABILITY.
01:43:20.961 --> 01:43:22.462
RECENT STUDIES HAVE SHOWN THAT
01:43:22.529 --> 01:43:24.665
CUSTOMERS OF UTILITIES WINDY
01:43:24.731 --> 01:43:26.366
COUPLING HAVE WATER BILLS THAT
01:43:26.433 --> 01:43:28.335
ARE UP TO 27% LOWER THAN THE
01:43:28.402 --> 01:43:29.836
OTHERWISE WOULD HAVE BEEN.
01:43:29.903 --> 01:43:30.804
ADDITIONALLY UTILITIES WOULD
01:43:30.871 --> 01:43:32.973
DECOUPLING ARE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT
01:43:33.040 --> 01:43:34.641
PROGRESSIVE RATE DESIGNS, THEN
01:43:34.708 --> 01:43:36.076
SURE, EVERYONE IS CONTRIBUTING
01:43:36.143 --> 01:43:37.411
EQUITABLY TO THE COST OF
01:43:37.477 --> 01:43:39.613
OPERATING THE WATER SYSTEM. IS
01:43:39.680 --> 01:43:42.316
FOR THESE REASONS. SB 14 69 IS
01:43:42.382 --> 01:43:43.784
SUPPORTED BY THE NATURAL
01:43:43.850 --> 01:43:45.285
RESOURCES DEFENSE COUNCIL.
01:43:45.352 --> 01:43:46.620
CALIFORNIA WATER EFFICIENCY
01:43:46.687 --> 01:43:47.154
PARTNERSHIP, THE AMERICAN
01:43:47.220 --> 01:43:50.157
COUNCIL FOR ENERGY EFFICIENT
01:43:50.223 --> 01:43:52.793
ECONOMY. THESE ARE ALSO THE
01:43:52.859 --> 01:43:53.827
REASONS THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY
01:43:53.894 --> 01:43:55.329
UNDER PRESIDENT OBAMA SAID THAT
01:43:55.395 --> 01:43:57.698
DECOUPLING IS VITAL TO ENSURE
01:43:57.764 --> 01:43:58.532
THAT WATER AND WASTEWATER
01:43:58.599 --> 01:43:59.600
pUTILITIES HAVE INCENTIVES AND
01:43:59.666 --> 01:44:02.669
TOOLS. TO REDUCE WATER AND
01:44:02.736 --> 01:44:04.237
ENERGY CONSUMPTION. WE
01:44:04.304 --> 01:44:06.873
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR I VOTE
01:44:06.940 --> 01:44:10.143
ON THE NEXT WITNESS. GOOD
01:44:10.210 --> 01:44:11.111
AFTERNOON CHAIR GARCIA AND
01:44:11.178 --> 01:44:12.546
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. MY NAME IS
01:44:12.613 --> 01:44:14.481
LINDA VAUX AND I'M WITH THE
01:44:14.548 --> 01:44:15.048
CALIFORNIA WATER EFFICIENCY
01:44:15.115 --> 01:44:17.050
PARTNERSHIP. ALSO KNOWN AS COW.
01:44:17.117 --> 01:44:19.419
IT IS A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION
01:44:19.486 --> 01:44:20.921
DEDICATED TO MAXIMIZING WATER
01:44:20.988 --> 01:44:23.023
EFFICIENCY. WE OUR STATE CHAPTER
01:44:23.090 --> 01:44:23.924
OF THE ALLIANCE FOR WATER
01:44:23.991 --> 01:44:26.259
EFFICIENCY AND WE HAVE OVER 220
01:44:26.326 --> 01:44:27.194
MEMBER ORGANIZATIONS STOCK
01:44:27.260 --> 01:44:29.663
CALIFORNIA INCLUDING INVESTOR
01:44:29.730 --> 01:44:30.864
OWN WATER UTILITIES. WE ARE IN
01:44:30.931 --> 01:44:34.267
SUPPORT OF SENATE BILL 14 69.
01:44:34.334 --> 01:44:35.869
OUR CLIMATE IS CHANGING AND
01:44:35.936 --> 01:44:36.803
DROUGHTS ARE BECOMING OUR NEW
01:44:36.870 --> 01:44:38.872
NORMAL. CURRENTLY CALIFORNIA IS
01:44:38.939 --> 01:44:40.440
IN THIS THIRD YEAR OF DROUGHT IN
01:44:40.507 --> 01:44:41.575
RESPONSE TO THE PREVIOUS SEVERE
01:44:41.642 --> 01:44:43.910
DROUGHT. THE LEGISLATURE PASSED
01:44:43.977 --> 01:44:45.846
TWO BILLS IN 2018 DEDICATED TO
01:44:45.912 --> 01:44:47.848
MAKING WATER CONSERVATION
01:44:47.914 --> 01:44:50.017
THROUGHOUT THE STATE IN ORDER TO
01:44:50.083 --> 01:44:50.517
REACH THE STATE'S WATER
01:44:50.584 --> 01:44:51.485
CONSERVATION GOALS, MEANINGFUL
01:44:51.551 --> 01:44:52.452
ACTIONS AND EFFECTIVE TOOLS ARE
01:44:52.519 --> 01:44:56.490
NEEDED. SB 14 69 WILL ELIMINATE
01:44:56.556 --> 01:44:58.625
THE DISTANCE SCENTED FOR WATER
01:44:58.692 --> 01:45:00.193
UTILITIES REGULATED BY THE
01:45:00.260 --> 01:45:01.428
CALIFORNIA PUBLIC UTILITIES
01:45:01.495 --> 01:45:02.729
COMMISSION TO PURSUE ROBUST
01:45:02.796 --> 01:45:03.997
WATER CONSERVATION PROGRAMS AND
01:45:04.064 --> 01:45:07.234
MEASURES. ABILITIES THIS BY
01:45:07.300 --> 01:45:09.603
AUTHORIZING THE PUC TO ALLOW
01:45:09.670 --> 01:45:10.604
WATER UTILITIES TO TAKE
01:45:10.671 --> 01:45:12.606
ADVANTAGE OF A TOOL KNOWN AS THE
01:45:12.673 --> 01:45:13.940
COUPLING, WHICH CUTS THE LINK
01:45:14.007 --> 01:45:15.876
BETWEEN A UTILITIES REVENUES AND
01:45:15.942 --> 01:45:19.446
ITS SALES. ADDITIONALLY SP 14 69
01:45:19.513 --> 01:45:20.347
WILL CREATE PARITY BETWEEN
01:45:20.414 --> 01:45:22.182
INVESTOR ON ELECTRIC UTILITIES
01:45:22.249 --> 01:45:23.383
AND WATER UTILITIES REGULATED BY
01:45:23.450 --> 01:45:26.887
THE PUC. CURRENTLY ONLY ELECTRIC
01:45:26.953 --> 01:45:28.221
UTILITIES CAN UTILIZE THE
01:45:28.288 --> 01:45:30.023
MECHANISM OF THE COUPLING. THIS
01:45:30.090 --> 01:45:32.259
WAS PUT INTO PLACE DECADES AGO
01:45:32.325 --> 01:45:33.593
WHEN REDUCING ENERGY DEMAND WAS
01:45:33.660 --> 01:45:35.162
IMPERATIVE FOR CALIFORNIA. IT IS
01:45:35.228 --> 01:45:37.097
NOW TIME WE DO THE SAME FOR
01:45:37.164 --> 01:45:39.633
INVESTOR OWNED WATER UTILITIES.
01:45:39.700 --> 01:45:40.534
FOR THESE REASONS, WE
01:45:40.600 --> 01:45:42.369
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR I VOTE
01:45:42.436 --> 01:45:44.304
. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. PRIMARY
01:45:44.371 --> 01:45:44.971
WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION. ANYONE
01:45:45.038 --> 01:45:49.109
HERE TO SPEAK. PRIMARY WITNESS.
01:45:49.176 --> 01:45:51.044
OKAY, WELL, WE WANT TO THE
01:45:51.111 --> 01:45:52.479
PUBLIC COMMENTS ANYONE IN THE
01:45:52.546 --> 01:45:53.747
ROOM WANTING TO STATE THEIR
01:45:53.814 --> 01:45:55.682
SUPPORT FOR THE MEASURE. NAME
01:45:55.749 --> 01:45:58.485
ORGANIZATION. AND AGAIN, THIS IS
01:45:58.552 --> 01:46:03.323
SUPPORT. IT WAS LAST GARCIA WITH
01:46:03.390 --> 01:46:04.257
THE CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY
01:46:04.324 --> 01:46:05.592
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATION
01:46:05.659 --> 01:46:07.961
AND ASSOCIATION OF OVER 300 LOW
01:46:08.028 --> 01:46:09.062
INCOME SERVING ORGANIZATIONS IN
01:46:09.129 --> 01:46:12.866
SUPPORT. YEAH. JERRY GARCIA
01:46:12.933 --> 01:46:14.534
MEMBER IS GOOD TO BE WITH YOU
01:46:14.601 --> 01:46:15.836
THIS AFTERNOON. ALEX TORRES WITH
01:46:15.902 --> 01:46:17.704
THE BEAR IT COUNSEL AND SUPPORT.
01:46:17.771 --> 01:46:20.707
THANK YOU. ROBERT CORE FROM THE
01:46:20.774 --> 01:46:22.642
GUANACO GROUP ON BEHALF OF SAN
01:46:22.709 --> 01:46:23.877
JOSE. WATER IN CONSERVATIONIST
01:46:23.944 --> 01:46:27.180
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
01:46:27.247 --> 01:46:28.115
MARION BERGERSEN WITH NATURAL
01:46:28.181 --> 01:46:29.182
RESOURCES, DEFENSE COUNCIL AND
01:46:29.249 --> 01:46:33.253
SUPPORT. PAUL REALLY GOING
01:46:33.320 --> 01:46:34.254
THROUGH WATER COMPANY AND
01:46:34.321 --> 01:46:40.026
SUPPORT. GREAT WITNESSES AND
01:46:40.093 --> 01:46:41.061
OPPOSITION ONE IN REGISTER
01:46:41.128 --> 01:46:42.095
OPPOSITION TO THE MEASURE.
01:46:42.162 --> 01:46:50.837
PLEASE COME FORWARD. KODY
01:46:50.904 --> 01:46:51.705
PHILLIPS WITH CALIFORNIA COAST
01:46:51.772 --> 01:46:53.039
KEEPER ALLIANCE WOULD LIKE TO
01:46:53.106 --> 01:46:54.875
REGISTER AS ALIGNED WITH THE
01:46:54.941 --> 01:46:56.309
PUBLIC UTILITIES. PUBLIC
01:46:56.376 --> 01:46:57.611
ADVOCATE'S OFFICE OPPOSED. THANK
01:46:57.677 --> 01:47:01.848
YOU. THANK YOU ANYONE ELSE? OKAY
01:47:01.915 --> 01:47:03.483
SO YOU NO ONE WILL GO TO THE
01:47:03.550 --> 01:47:06.052
MODERATOR. MODERATOR IS SB 14 69
01:47:06.119 --> 01:47:07.254
AND SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION.
01:47:07.320 --> 01:47:12.092
PLEASE QUÊ THEM IN. THANK YOU,
01:47:12.159 --> 01:47:13.527
MR CHAIR FOR THOSE WHO WISH TO
01:47:13.593 --> 01:47:15.729
SPEAK IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION
01:47:15.796 --> 01:47:18.265
TO SB 14 69, PLEASE PRESS 10 AT
01:47:18.331 --> 01:47:21.201
THIS TIME. WE'RE GONNA GO TO
01:47:21.268 --> 01:47:25.338
LINE 32. CHAIRMAN MEMBERS
01:47:25.405 --> 01:47:26.907
ISABELLA OR GRETA WAS LIGHTHOUSE
01:47:26.973 --> 01:47:28.575
PUBLIC AFFAIRS, SPEAKING ON
01:47:28.642 --> 01:47:29.943
BEHALF OF THE SANTA CLARA VALLEY
01:47:30.010 --> 01:47:31.611
WATER DISTRICT IN SUPPORT. THANK
01:47:31.678 --> 01:47:41.188
YOU. LINE 23. LOCAL PRESIDENT OF
01:47:41.254 --> 01:47:41.721
UTILITY WORKERS. UNION OF
01:47:41.788 --> 01:47:44.157
AMERICA. 1 60 D IN SPORTS. LINE
01:47:44.224 --> 01:47:49.996
33. GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIR AND
01:47:50.063 --> 01:47:52.399
MEMBERS. THIS IS TIM WORLEY IN
01:47:52.465 --> 01:47:54.067
SUPPORT ON BEHALF OF THE
01:47:54.134 --> 01:47:55.335
CALIFORNIA IN ABOUT A SECTION OF
01:47:55.402 --> 01:47:56.436
THE AMERICAN WATER WORKS
01:47:56.503 --> 01:47:58.205
ASSOCIATION. THANK YOU. LINE
01:47:58.271 --> 01:48:05.111
FIVE. ONCE CISNEROS, PRESIDENT
01:48:05.178 --> 01:48:07.080
OF LOCAL TWO OF FIVE WITH THE
01:48:07.147 --> 01:48:09.216
UTILITY WORKERS UNION OF AMERICA
01:48:09.282 --> 01:48:20.060
AND SUPPORT. LYING 24. GOOD
01:48:20.126 --> 01:48:21.962
AFTERNOON BOARD MEMBERS. MY
01:48:22.028 --> 01:48:23.563
NAME'S TIM HONG CALIFORNIA WATER
01:48:23.630 --> 01:48:24.965
UTILITY COUNCIL, WHICH
01:48:25.031 --> 01:48:26.366
REPRESENTS APPROXIMATELY 665
01:48:26.433 --> 01:48:26.933
EMPLOYEES. CALIFORNIA WATER
01:48:27.000 --> 01:48:31.504
SERVICE. THE WORKERS UNION OF
01:48:31.571 --> 01:48:33.840
AMERICA IF L C I O LOCAL THE
01:48:33.907 --> 01:48:42.215
SUPPORT OF SB 14 59. LINE 58.
01:48:42.282 --> 01:48:43.350
MELODY CHRIS LOCK FOR PUBLIC
01:48:43.416 --> 01:48:46.920
WATER NOW. STRONGLY OPPOSED. THE
01:48:46.987 --> 01:48:49.389
CPUC FOUND DECOUPLING DOES NOT
01:48:49.456 --> 01:48:49.890
PROMOTE CONSERVATION AND
01:48:49.956 --> 01:48:50.724
DISCONTINUED THE PRACTICE TWO
01:48:50.790 --> 01:48:58.164
YEARS AGO. LINE EIGHT. YEAH, I'M
01:48:58.231 --> 01:49:00.767
I'M AN OPPOSITION TO I'M A I'M A
01:49:00.834 --> 01:49:03.470
RATEPAYER. THIS IS A BACKDOOR TO
01:49:03.536 --> 01:49:10.076
PROFITS. THANK YOU, UH, LINE 82.
01:49:10.143 --> 01:49:11.111
SELECTING WITH THE SILICON
01:49:11.177 --> 01:49:12.112
VALLEY LEADERSHIP GROUP IN
01:49:12.178 --> 01:49:17.918
SUPPORT. FLYING 69. GOOD
01:49:17.984 --> 01:49:19.419
AFTERNOON CHAIR MEMBERS CAITLIN
01:49:19.486 --> 01:49:20.654
JOHNSON POLITICAL SOLUTIONS ON
01:49:20.720 --> 01:49:21.688
BEHALF OF CALIFORNIA AMERICAN
01:49:21.755 --> 01:49:32.432
WATER IN SUPPORT. LINE 36. 9 36.
01:49:32.499 --> 01:49:37.704
YOUR LINE IS NOW OPEN. GOOD
01:49:37.771 --> 01:49:40.440
AFTERNOON, DOMINANT CROW JACK
01:49:40.507 --> 01:49:41.908
GET UNDER THE UTILITY WORKERS
01:49:41.975 --> 01:49:43.510
UNION OF AMERICA, LOCAL 1, 60 CE
01:49:43.576 --> 01:49:50.350
AND SUPPORT. MR CHAIR. THERE IS
01:49:50.417 --> 01:49:52.118
NO ONE ELSE HAD SIGNALED THAT
01:49:52.185 --> 01:49:53.453
THEY WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS BILL
01:49:53.520 --> 01:49:55.588
QUÊ. WE DO HAVE EMOTION IN A
01:49:55.655 --> 01:49:56.790
SECOND. BRING IT BACK TO THE
01:49:56.856 --> 01:50:00.627
MEMBERS. QUESTION. UM SO I WAS
01:50:00.694 --> 01:50:05.298
READING A LETTER FROM THE UM,
01:50:05.365 --> 01:50:06.399
PUBLIC ADVOCATE'S OFFICE AT THE
01:50:06.466 --> 01:50:09.269
PUC IN OPPOSITION. BUT WE DID
01:50:09.336 --> 01:50:11.504
HEAR FROM SOMEONE, UH, FROM THE
01:50:11.571 --> 01:50:13.440
PUBLIC ADVOCATE'S OFFICE, AND I
01:50:13.506 --> 01:50:15.909
THOUGHT, HE SAID SUPPORT THAT.
01:50:15.976 --> 01:50:18.011
NO BELIEVE THEY'RE STILL OPPOSE
01:50:18.078 --> 01:50:20.714
. OKAY SO THEIR CONCERN IS THAT,
01:50:20.780 --> 01:50:25.585
UM FIRST OF ALL, I'M GOING TO
01:50:25.652 --> 01:50:27.420
VOTE FOR THE BILL BECAUSE I
01:50:27.487 --> 01:50:28.488
THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS
01:50:28.555 --> 01:50:30.523
MECHANISM. THEIR CONCERN IS THAT
01:50:30.590 --> 01:50:32.425
THE BILL GETS INTO TOO MUCH
01:50:32.492 --> 01:50:34.294
DETAIL ABOUT HOW THE RATES WOULD
01:50:34.361 --> 01:50:37.097
SET. THEY WANT MORE DISCRETION
01:50:37.163 --> 01:50:41.534
AVAILABLE. UM. TO THE PUBLIC
01:50:41.601 --> 01:50:46.272
UTILITIES COMMISSION. UM AND.
01:50:46.339 --> 01:50:48.475
THIS RAISES CONCERNS THAT FOR
01:50:48.541 --> 01:50:50.410
THAT REASON, THE GOVERNOR MAY BE
01:50:50.477 --> 01:50:52.278
THINKING OF A VETO DOWN THE LINE
01:50:52.345 --> 01:50:54.481
. SO WHY IS IT CRITICAL AND
01:50:54.547 --> 01:50:55.648
AGAIN? I'M VOTING FOR, BUT WHY
01:50:55.715 --> 01:50:58.051
IS IT CRITICAL TO PUT IN THE
01:50:58.118 --> 01:50:59.285
SPECIFIC RULES ON RATE MAKING.
01:50:59.352 --> 01:51:04.824
JOINING US FROM. THANK YOU, MR
01:51:04.891 --> 01:51:07.427
CORK. THIS BILL ACTUALLY ALLOWS
01:51:07.494 --> 01:51:08.995
THE MECHANISM OF THE COUPLING TO
01:51:09.062 --> 01:51:10.497
BE CONSIDERED, AND IT MAY BE
01:51:10.563 --> 01:51:12.665
AUTHORIZED BY THE CPUC. IT DOES
01:51:12.732 --> 01:51:14.367
NOT REQUIRE THE CPUC TO
01:51:14.434 --> 01:51:16.503
AUTHORIZE THISMECHANISM, NOR
01:51:16.569 --> 01:51:17.971
DOES IT PRESCRIBED A PARTICULAR
01:51:18.038 --> 01:51:19.272
RATE MAKING MECHANISM. IT
01:51:19.339 --> 01:51:22.242
BASICALLY OPENS THE DOOR. TO A
01:51:22.308 --> 01:51:24.310
DOOR THAT HAD BEEN OPENED BEFORE
01:51:24.377 --> 01:51:27.447
AND TWO FOR THE CPC TO CONSIDER
01:51:27.514 --> 01:51:30.750
DECOUPLING. UM YES, WELL. IT'S
01:51:30.817 --> 01:51:32.819
HARD FOR ME TO RECONCILE THAT
01:51:32.886 --> 01:51:34.988
WITH WHAT AND AGAIN THIS IS A
01:51:35.055 --> 01:51:37.057
VERY IMPORTANT BILL. WE NEED IT.
01:51:37.123 --> 01:51:39.759
I KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
01:51:39.826 --> 01:51:40.493
BECOMES VERY FRUSTRATING TO
01:51:40.560 --> 01:51:41.628
EVERY WATER AGENCY IS WHEN
01:51:41.694 --> 01:51:44.831
PEOPLE CONSERVE THEY CERTAINLY
01:51:44.898 --> 01:51:46.566
DON'T GET AS MUCH MONEY AND THEY
01:51:46.633 --> 01:51:49.169
HAVE PROBLEMS AND THEN YOUR
01:51:49.235 --> 01:51:50.470
PEOPLE ARE USING LESS WATER AND
01:51:50.537 --> 01:51:54.240
YOU'RE RAISING RATES ON THEM. SO
01:51:54.307 --> 01:51:58.311
THAT'S JUST CRAZINESS. OH, AND
01:51:58.378 --> 01:52:00.346
THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO A
01:52:00.413 --> 01:52:03.149
PART OF IT. HERE IS SOME OF THE
01:52:03.216 --> 01:52:04.150
OPPOSITION. THANK YOU SHOULD
01:52:04.217 --> 01:52:04.884
JUST FORECAST BETTER. YOU CAN'T
01:52:04.951 --> 01:52:07.087
SO IT'S A CRITICAL BILL. UM AND
01:52:07.153 --> 01:52:09.989
WE NEED TO PASS IT. I'M THERE'S
01:52:10.056 --> 01:52:11.124
JUST A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT
01:52:11.191 --> 01:52:14.627
YOU'RE SEEING. AND WHAT THE AH,
01:52:14.694 --> 01:52:18.298
THE ADVOCATES OFFICES, SCENE AND
01:52:18.364 --> 01:52:21.401
UM I'LL LET YOU GUYS FIGURE IT
01:52:21.468 --> 01:52:27.640
OUT. YEAH, I'LL SEE ANY OTHER
01:52:27.707 --> 01:52:28.441
QUESTIONS. COMMENTS WOULD YOU
01:52:28.508 --> 01:52:29.509
LIKE TO CLOSE? WE DO HAVE A
01:52:29.576 --> 01:52:31.711
MOTION IN SECOND. I SIMPLY ASK
01:52:31.778 --> 01:52:32.879
FOR YOUR VOTE. THANK YOU, MR
01:52:32.946 --> 01:52:34.380
CHAIR MEMBERS. SECRETARY ITEM
01:52:34.447 --> 01:52:36.749
NUMBER SIX SB 14 69. THE MOTION
01:52:36.816 --> 01:52:38.785
IS DUE PAST TWO APPROPRIATIONS.
01:52:38.852 --> 01:52:39.953
EDUARDO GARCIA, EDUARDO GARCIA,
01:52:40.019 --> 01:52:41.621
I PATERSON PATERSON. I BARRICADE
01:52:41.688 --> 01:52:46.526
KH, KOREA. KOREA I CHEN CHEN I
01:52:46.593 --> 01:52:50.497
CUNNINGHAM PHÊN. WANG I CRISTINA
01:52:50.563 --> 01:52:54.801
GARCIA HOLDEN MAZE. MAYS I
01:52:54.868 --> 01:52:57.971
MURATSUCHI CORK WORK I RAISE
01:52:58.037 --> 01:53:02.876
SANTIAGO TING. AT 70. THANK YOU,
01:53:02.942 --> 01:53:04.110
MR CHAIRMAN. MEMBERS ROLL OPEN
01:53:04.177 --> 01:53:05.979
FOR OTHERS HEAD ON. SENATOR
01:53:06.045 --> 01:53:17.724
LARRY. OKAY. SENATE BILL 10 20.
01:53:17.790 --> 01:53:19.526
THE FLOOR IS YOURS. THANK YOU,
01:53:19.592 --> 01:53:22.595
MR CHAIR. YOU KNOW, I WAS A
01:53:22.662 --> 01:53:23.963
MEMBER OF THIS COMMITTEE 15
01:53:24.030 --> 01:53:26.332
YEARS AGO. WHEN I CAST THE ONLY
01:53:26.399 --> 01:53:30.470
NO VOTE. FROM MOVING TO SIGN IN
01:53:30.537 --> 01:53:32.605
ORDER TO FILE ORDER, AND I WAS
01:53:32.672 --> 01:53:33.840
SITTING IN THE FRONT ROW THE
01:53:33.907 --> 01:53:36.009
WHOLE TIME FEELING VINDICATED IN
01:53:36.075 --> 01:53:42.815
MY VOTE. UM SB 10. 20 IS A BIG
01:53:42.882 --> 01:53:45.051
BILL ENACTS THE CLEAN ENERGY
01:53:45.118 --> 01:53:46.319
JOBS AND AFFORDABILITY ACT OF
01:53:46.386 --> 01:53:49.689
2022. IT'S A MAJOR THAT'S
01:53:49.756 --> 01:53:53.326
JOINTLY AUTHORED BY THE SENATE
01:53:53.393 --> 01:53:54.661
PRESIDENT, SENATORS CABALLERO
01:53:54.727 --> 01:53:58.431
AND DURAZO AND MYSELF. AND IN
01:53:58.498 --> 01:54:00.567
HIS CO AUTHORED BY 11 SENATORS,
01:54:00.633 --> 01:54:02.602
INCLUDING THE OTHER NINE MEMBERS
01:54:02.669 --> 01:54:03.736
OF THE SENATE CLIMATE WORKING
01:54:03.803 --> 01:54:06.005
GROUP. IT WOULD GIVE GREATER
01:54:06.072 --> 01:54:07.507
ACCOUNTABILITY TO CALIFORNIA'S
01:54:07.574 --> 01:54:08.541
ELECTRIC SECTOR, CLIMATE
01:54:08.608 --> 01:54:09.576
COMMITMENTS AND FOR THE FIRST
01:54:09.642 --> 01:54:13.513
TIME PLACE RATEPAYER
01:54:13.580 --> 01:54:14.714
AFFORDABILITY AT THE CORE OF OUR
01:54:14.781 --> 01:54:16.616
CLIMATE POLICY. IT CONTAINS
01:54:16.683 --> 01:54:21.187
SEVERAL KEY ELEMENTS. ONE IS THE
01:54:21.254 --> 01:54:22.789
FIRST ONE IT WOULD ADD INTERIM
01:54:22.855 --> 01:54:24.657
TARGETS TO THE POLICY FRAMEWORK
01:54:24.724 --> 01:54:26.693
ORIGINALLY ESTABLISHED IN SB 100
01:54:26.759 --> 01:54:32.031
IN 2018. BASICALLY THE STATES
01:54:32.098 --> 01:54:34.033
COMMITTED TO ACHIEVE A 60%
01:54:34.100 --> 01:54:35.068
RENEWABLE ENERGY PORTFOLIO BY
01:54:35.134 --> 01:54:40.240
2030. AND THEN. AH THIS WOULD
01:54:40.306 --> 01:54:42.208
ALSO HAVE THE REST OF THE TARGET
01:54:42.275 --> 01:54:45.578
TO 40. THAT WOULD DEAL WITH THE
01:54:45.645 --> 01:54:50.016
90% IN 2035 95% OF 2040. SO IT
01:54:50.083 --> 01:54:51.784
JUMP STARTS OUR GOALS. IT
01:54:51.851 --> 01:54:53.152
DOESN'T ADVANCE THE GOALS. IT
01:54:53.219 --> 01:54:55.455
DOESN'T CHANGE THE GOALS. BUT IT
01:54:55.521 --> 01:54:57.590
AND SENSE THE GOALS AND TRIES TO
01:54:57.657 --> 01:54:59.359
MOVE THEM FORWARD WITH INTERIM
01:54:59.425 --> 01:55:02.161
TARGETS. SECOND THE BILL WOULD
01:55:02.228 --> 01:55:03.763
REQUIRE ALL STATE AGENCIES TO
01:55:03.830 --> 01:55:06.466
RELY ON 100% RENEWABLE ENERGY
01:55:06.532 --> 01:55:07.967
AND ZERO CARBON RESOURCES TO
01:55:08.034 --> 01:55:09.102
SERVE THEIR OWN FACILITIES BY
01:55:09.168 --> 01:55:14.040
2030. AND THIS ACCELERATED
01:55:14.107 --> 01:55:15.708
TARGET WOULD PUT STATE AGENCIES
01:55:15.775 --> 01:55:16.909
AT THE FOREFRONT OF EFFORTS TO
01:55:16.976 --> 01:55:20.380
DE CARBONIZED. IT ALSO ALIGNS
01:55:20.446 --> 01:55:21.948
WITH COMMITMENTS MADE BY THE
01:55:22.015 --> 01:55:23.650
CALIFORNIA'S TWO LARGEST PUBLIC
01:55:23.716 --> 01:55:27.220
UTILITY SMUD IN L, A DWP THAT
01:55:27.287 --> 01:55:29.589
THAT ON THEIR OWN, HAVE DECIDED
01:55:29.656 --> 01:55:30.556
THEY WANT TO MOVE AHEAD OF THE
01:55:30.623 --> 01:55:32.792
STATE. THIS ALLOWS THEM IF THEY
01:55:32.859 --> 01:55:33.926
MAKE THAT DECISION TO MOVE AHEAD
01:55:33.993 --> 01:55:37.096
OF THE STATE. THIRD THE BILL
01:55:37.163 --> 01:55:38.298
WOULD ESTABLISH A CLIMATE AND
01:55:38.364 --> 01:55:40.933
EQUITY TRUST FUND. TO ADDRESS
01:55:41.000 --> 01:55:43.202
RISING ELECTRICITY RATES THAT
01:55:43.269 --> 01:55:44.637
THREATEN AFFORDABILITY OF BASIC
01:55:44.704 --> 01:55:46.105
SERVICE AND UNDERMINE THE
01:55:46.172 --> 01:55:47.874
ECONOMICS OF BUILDING AND
01:55:47.940 --> 01:55:50.643
TRANSPORTATION ELECTRIFICATION.
01:55:50.710 --> 01:55:52.178
IT WOULD CHANNEL FUNDING FROM
01:55:52.245 --> 01:55:53.946
EXTERNAL SOURCES TO OFFSET A
01:55:54.013 --> 01:55:54.814
VARIETY OF COSTS CURRENTLY
01:55:54.881 --> 01:55:58.651
ELECTED IN UTILITY RATES. AND IN
01:55:58.718 --> 01:56:00.820
THE BUDGET DISCUSSIONS FUNDING.
01:56:00.887 --> 01:56:03.189
THIS FUND IS ON THE TABLE WITH
01:56:03.256 --> 01:56:05.625
REGARD TO TRYING TO IMPLEMENT
01:56:05.692 --> 01:56:08.194
SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE
01:56:08.261 --> 01:56:09.362
ENVISIONED IN THE FUND IS
01:56:09.429 --> 01:56:11.397
ESTABLISHED BY THIS BILL. IT
01:56:11.464 --> 01:56:13.333
WOULD BE ADMINISTERED BY THE
01:56:13.399 --> 01:56:14.300
CALIFORNIA AFFORDABLE
01:56:14.367 --> 01:56:15.268
DECARBONIZATION AUTHORITY, A NEW
01:56:15.335 --> 01:56:19.172
NONPROFIT AH, WITH DISBURSEMENTS
01:56:19.238 --> 01:56:21.774
REGULATED BY THE CALIFORNIA
01:56:21.841 --> 01:56:22.408
ENERGY COMMISSION FOR PUBLICLY
01:56:22.475 --> 01:56:24.043
OWNED UTILITY SERVICE
01:56:24.110 --> 01:56:25.845
TERRITORIES AND THE CALIFORNIA
01:56:25.912 --> 01:56:26.813
PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION FOR
01:56:26.879 --> 01:56:29.382
INVESTOR OWNED UTILITY SERVICE.
01:56:29.449 --> 01:56:32.018
TERRITORIES AND IT WOULD
01:56:32.085 --> 01:56:33.820
DEMONSTRATE A COMMITMENT BY THE
01:56:33.886 --> 01:56:36.289
LEGISLATURE AND STATE GOVERNMENT
01:56:36.356 --> 01:56:40.793
TO LONG TERM GREAT RELIEF. UM
01:56:40.860 --> 01:56:41.794
FOR CALIFORNIANS ON THEIR
01:56:41.861 --> 01:56:45.531
MONTHLY BILLS. AND LAST THE END
01:56:45.598 --> 01:56:47.133
FOR THE BILL WOULD ENCOURAGE
01:56:47.200 --> 01:56:48.534
BETTER INFORMATION SHARING AND
01:56:48.601 --> 01:56:50.036
COORDINATION ON TRANSMISSION
01:56:50.103 --> 01:56:52.805
PLANNING. IT WOULD AUTHORIZE THE
01:56:52.872 --> 01:56:54.240
CPUC AND CE CE, THE ENERGY
01:56:54.307 --> 01:56:57.043
COMMISSION TO DISCLOSE CERTAIN
01:56:57.110 --> 01:56:59.078
CONFIDENTIAL AND USUALLY MARKET
01:56:59.145 --> 01:57:01.481
INFORMATION TO THE CALIFORNIA
01:57:01.547 --> 01:57:03.616
AND INDEPENDENT SYSTEM OPERATOR
01:57:03.683 --> 01:57:06.686
, WHICH WOULD SPEED UP THE
01:57:06.753 --> 01:57:08.254
SIGHTING AND CONSTRUCTION OF
01:57:08.321 --> 01:57:10.523
TANSMISSION TO MEET OUR CLEAN
01:57:10.590 --> 01:57:13.192
ENERGY TARGETS. THIS WAS A
01:57:13.259 --> 01:57:16.062
PROVISION OF THE SP 100 JOINT
01:57:16.129 --> 01:57:17.263
AGENCY RECOMMENDATION TAKEN AS A
01:57:17.330 --> 01:57:22.001
WHOLE. THIS BILL WAS INTENDED TO
01:57:22.068 --> 01:57:22.769
BRING NEW TERM RIGOR TO
01:57:22.835 --> 01:57:24.170
CALIFORNIA'S LANDMARK
01:57:24.237 --> 01:57:26.906
ELECTRICITY SECTOR, CLEAN ENERGY
01:57:26.973 --> 01:57:29.008
AND ZERO CARBON TARGETS TO FOCUS
01:57:29.075 --> 01:57:30.276
ON THE AFFORDABILITY OF MEETING
01:57:30.343 --> 01:57:32.645
THESE TARGETS. AND TO MAKE OTHER
01:57:32.712 --> 01:57:35.014
CHANGES TO LAW TO MEET OUR
01:57:35.081 --> 01:57:37.717
NATION'S AMBITIOUS GOALS. UM OUR
01:57:37.784 --> 01:57:40.286
OFFICE HAS WORKED WITH DIFFERENT
01:57:40.353 --> 01:57:41.287
STAKEHOLDERS ON VARIOUS
01:57:41.354 --> 01:57:44.757
AMENDMENTS. AND GIVEN THE VOLUME
01:57:44.824 --> 01:57:47.360
OF THEM, THIS BILLS DOUBLE
01:57:47.427 --> 01:57:49.195
REFERRED TO ASSEMBLY NATURAL
01:57:49.262 --> 01:57:51.597
RESOURCES. AND THEN IF IT MAKES
01:57:51.664 --> 01:57:53.466
IT OUT OF HERE, AND THERE GOES
01:57:53.533 --> 01:57:54.133
TO THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE,
01:57:54.200 --> 01:57:55.935
WE WOULD TAKE THE AMENDMENTS IN
01:57:56.002 --> 01:57:57.370
THE NEXT COMMITTEE. THERE HAD
01:57:57.437 --> 01:57:59.205
BEEN ONE CONCERN ASKED BY MEMBER
01:57:59.272 --> 01:58:00.406
THAT GOT TO ME BEFORE THE
01:58:00.473 --> 01:58:01.541
HEARING ABOUT THE SUBJECT OF
01:58:01.607 --> 01:58:04.010
WATER, AND ONE OF THE AMENDMENTS
01:58:04.076 --> 01:58:05.311
WILL BE TO REMOVE THE WATER PART
01:58:05.378 --> 01:58:06.379
SO IT SHOULD SATISFY THE
01:58:06.446 --> 01:58:09.148
QUESTION THAT WAS GOING TO COME
01:58:09.215 --> 01:58:11.117
UP AT THAT TIME. AND THEN LET ME
01:58:11.184 --> 01:58:14.720
JUST SPEAK BRIEFLY. THERE IS A
01:58:14.787 --> 01:58:18.858
UM, UH, THIS HAS BROAD SUPPORT.
01:58:18.925 --> 01:58:21.127
I'LL TALK ABOUT IN A MINUTE, BUT
01:58:21.194 --> 01:58:22.929
THERE IS SOME OPPOSITION. FROM A
01:58:22.995 --> 01:58:24.430
SMALL NUMBER OF GROUPS, BUT
01:58:24.497 --> 01:58:26.599
SIGNIFICANT GROUPS THAT SAY
01:58:26.666 --> 01:58:29.602
OPPOSING LESS CEMENTED AND THEY
01:58:29.669 --> 01:58:31.137
HAVE A LETTER THAT I THINK HAS
01:58:31.204 --> 01:58:33.806
BEEN PROVIDED TO YOU. BUT THEIR
01:58:33.873 --> 01:58:35.308
CONCERN IS THAT AND OTHER STATE
01:58:35.374 --> 01:58:40.046
PROCESSES OR LAWS. UM METHANE
01:58:40.112 --> 01:58:43.983
FROM DAIRY DIGESTERS IS USED IN
01:58:44.050 --> 01:58:46.285
MEETING STATE GOALS THAT MAY YOU
01:58:46.352 --> 01:58:47.286
KNOW, REMOVING THAT ADDRESSING
01:58:47.353 --> 01:58:50.556
THAT MAY HAVE MERIT. BUT THAT IS
01:58:50.623 --> 01:58:52.825
FOR ANOTHER BILL. THAT IS NOT
01:58:52.892 --> 01:58:54.560
THIS ONE. THIS BILL IS HIGH
01:58:54.627 --> 01:58:56.629
LEVEL ON THE GOALS AND IF WE
01:58:56.696 --> 01:58:58.664
STARTED TO GET INTO CHANGING THE
01:58:58.731 --> 01:59:00.032
50, OR 100 ISSUES THAT WERE
01:59:00.099 --> 01:59:03.269
UNDERLYING THE GOALS UM, WE
01:59:03.336 --> 01:59:04.871
WOULD BE HERE INTO THE NEXT
01:59:04.937 --> 01:59:06.272
SESSION, SO I THINK THIS
01:59:06.339 --> 01:59:09.342
ADDRESSES THE TOP LINE ISSUES
01:59:09.408 --> 01:59:11.644
THAT I MENTIONED. IT'S SUPPORTED
01:59:11.711 --> 01:59:13.679
BY A BROAD NUMBER OF GROUPS THAT
01:59:13.746 --> 01:59:15.448
ARE SHOWN IN THE ANALYSIS.
01:59:15.515 --> 01:59:16.082
ENVIRONMENT CALIFORNIA TURNED
01:59:16.148 --> 01:59:19.118
CLEAN POWER CAMPAIGN. AH AND
01:59:19.185 --> 01:59:21.153
MANY OTHERS AND HERE TO SPEAK IN
01:59:21.220 --> 01:59:22.388
SUPPORT OF THE BILL IS DAN
01:59:22.455 --> 01:59:24.323
JACOBSON FROM ENVIRONMENT,
01:59:24.390 --> 01:59:27.159
CALIFORNIA APPRECIATE THE TIME
01:59:27.226 --> 01:59:29.695
AND V. JOHN WHITE IS HERE AS
01:59:29.762 --> 01:59:31.297
WELL. AND I WILL LOOK FORWARD TO
01:59:31.364 --> 01:59:34.467
ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, MR
01:59:34.534 --> 01:59:36.035
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS JOHN WHITE WITH
01:59:36.102 --> 01:59:37.370
THE CLEAN POWER CAMPAIGN. WE
01:59:37.436 --> 01:59:38.437
SUPPORT THE BILL, FOR THE
01:59:38.504 --> 01:59:40.640
REASONS STATED IN PARTICULAR, WE
01:59:40.706 --> 01:59:42.608
THINK THAT THE STATE AGENCIES
01:59:42.675 --> 01:59:44.544
NEED TO LEAD ON PROCUREMENT OF
01:59:44.610 --> 01:59:45.845
CLEAN ENERGY. THE STATE WATER
01:59:45.912 --> 01:59:48.281
PROJECT IS A VERY LARGE CONSUMER
01:59:48.347 --> 01:59:50.449
OF ELECTRICITY, AND THEY NEED TO
01:59:50.516 --> 01:59:52.351
END THE OTHER AGENCIES NEED TO
01:59:52.418 --> 01:59:53.886
FOLLOW THE OTHER PUBLIC AGENCIES
01:59:53.953 --> 01:59:56.856
AND SET A GOOD EXAMPLE. UM UH,
01:59:56.923 --> 01:59:58.591
SECOND, AND WITH THE PRICE OF
01:59:58.658 --> 01:59:59.992
NATURAL GAS BUYING MORE
02:00:00.059 --> 02:00:01.260
RENEWABLE SOONER WILL LOWER
02:00:01.327 --> 02:00:03.195
COSTS OF RATHER THAN INCREASED
02:00:03.262 --> 02:00:05.831
COSTS. SECONDLY WE THINK IT'S
02:00:05.898 --> 02:00:08.000
VERY IMPORTANT TO HAVE INTERIM
02:00:08.067 --> 02:00:10.303
TARGETS SO THAT WE DON'T IMAGINE
02:00:10.369 --> 02:00:11.904
THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET THERE
02:00:11.971 --> 02:00:13.706
UNTIL WE KNOW HOW TO HOW TO DO
02:00:13.773 --> 02:00:16.142
IT AND THE INTERIM TARGETS. ARE
02:00:16.208 --> 02:00:17.543
VERY, VERY IMPORTANT TO ENSURE
02:00:17.610 --> 02:00:19.979
THAT WE STAY ON PACE AND DON'T
02:00:20.046 --> 02:00:22.281
MAKE UP MAGIC SOLUTIONS TO
02:00:22.348 --> 02:00:23.649
CONVINCE OURSELVES THAT WE'RE
02:00:23.716 --> 02:00:24.784
GOING TO BE FINE WITHOUT THE
02:00:24.850 --> 02:00:26.619
EFFORT, SO THIS IS A VERY
02:00:26.686 --> 02:00:28.821
IMPORTANT MODEST BILL. LET DAN
02:00:28.888 --> 02:00:29.755
SPEAK TO THE CLIMATE TRUST
02:00:29.822 --> 02:00:30.890
BECAUSE HE SPENT MORE TIME ON
02:00:30.957 --> 02:00:34.226
THAT THAN I THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:00:34.293 --> 02:00:35.595
MR CHAIRMAN. MY NAME IS DAN
02:00:35.661 --> 02:00:36.562
JACOBSON. WITH ENVIRONMENT.
02:00:36.629 --> 02:00:38.864
CALIFORNIA WILL SIMPLY SAY FOR
02:00:38.931 --> 02:00:40.066
THE PAST 20 PLUS YEARS,
02:00:40.132 --> 02:00:41.500
CALIFORNIA HAS LED WITH ITS
02:00:41.567 --> 02:00:43.869
RENEWABLE ENERGY PROGRAMS. THIS
02:00:43.936 --> 02:00:45.438
BILL SIMPLY SETS UP THOSE
02:00:45.504 --> 02:00:48.307
MILESTONES POST 2030, BUT SO
02:00:48.374 --> 02:00:50.042
MUCH OF THE GREAT WORK THAT'S
02:00:50.109 --> 02:00:52.178
BEEN DONE ON REDUCING THE AMOUNT
02:00:52.244 --> 02:00:54.246
OF G H G S THAT WE HAVE HERE IN
02:00:54.313 --> 02:00:56.082
THE STATE. IN THE AMOUNT OF
02:00:56.148 --> 02:00:57.316
POLLUTION THAT WE HAVE COMES
02:00:57.383 --> 02:00:58.551
FROM THAT ELECTRICITY SECTOR, SO
02:00:58.618 --> 02:00:59.552
THAT'S CRITICAL BUT ONE THING
02:00:59.619 --> 02:01:01.387
THAT HAS TO BE ADDRESSED IN HIS
02:01:01.454 --> 02:01:02.822
ADDRESSED IN THIS BILL IS RATES
02:01:02.888 --> 02:01:04.724
AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WAYS
02:01:04.790 --> 02:01:05.958
THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE
02:01:06.025 --> 02:01:07.693
CAN CONTROL THE COST THAT PEOPLE
02:01:07.760 --> 02:01:08.961
PAY ON THEIR UTILITY BILL. THIS
02:01:09.028 --> 02:01:10.563
BILL SETS UP THAT PROGRAM BY
02:01:10.630 --> 02:01:13.299
CREATING A AUTHORITY. IT
02:01:13.366 --> 02:01:14.834
PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE
02:01:14.900 --> 02:01:16.002
YEARS AGO. WE'RE GRATEFUL TO THE
02:01:16.068 --> 02:01:17.436
AUTHOR FOR SETTING THIS UP HERE
02:01:17.503 --> 02:01:18.537
AND ENCOURAGING I VOTE. THANK
02:01:18.604 --> 02:01:21.974
YOU. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE
02:01:22.041 --> 02:01:22.441
PRIMARY WITNESSES AND
02:01:22.508 --> 02:01:25.611
OPPOSITION? WE HAVE ANY PRIMARY
02:01:25.678 --> 02:01:27.046
WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION. PLEASE
02:01:27.113 --> 02:01:31.584
COME FORWARD. HELLO GOOD
02:01:31.651 --> 02:01:33.886
AFTERNOON. SHE REMEMBERS MY NAME
02:01:33.953 --> 02:01:35.087
IS JAY JORDAN WITH LEADERSHIP
02:01:35.154 --> 02:01:35.955
COUNCIL FOR JUSTICE AND
02:01:36.022 --> 02:01:37.323
ACCOUNTABILITY. WE ALONG WITH
02:01:37.390 --> 02:01:39.091
OUR COLLEAGUES AT CALIFORNIA
02:01:39.158 --> 02:01:39.725
ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE, ALLIANCE
02:01:39.792 --> 02:01:40.593
, FOOD AND WATER WATCH ANIMAL
02:01:40.660 --> 02:01:42.528
LEGAL DEFENSE FUND CENTER FOR
02:01:42.595 --> 02:01:43.763
FOOD SAFETY, COMMUNITY WATER
02:01:43.829 --> 02:01:45.431
CENTER AND CLEAN WATER ACTION
02:01:45.498 --> 02:01:46.499
WANT TO COMMEND THE AUTHOR'S
02:01:46.565 --> 02:01:47.633
INTENT TO MEET CALIFORNIA'S
02:01:47.700 --> 02:01:50.136
CLEAN ENERGY GOALS? HOWEVER WE
02:01:50.202 --> 02:01:51.704
MUST RESPECTFULLY OPPOSED SB 10
02:01:51.771 --> 02:01:53.339
20 UNLESS IT IS AMENDED TO
02:01:53.406 --> 02:01:55.207
ADDRESS THE CONTINUED INCLUSION
02:01:55.274 --> 02:01:56.676
AND ENTRENCHMENT OF ENERGY
02:01:56.742 --> 02:01:58.210
GENERATED FROM POLLUTING DAIRIES
02:01:58.277 --> 02:01:58.744
AND DAIRY DIGESTERS AS A
02:01:58.811 --> 02:01:59.979
RENEWABLE ENERGY AND ZERO CARBON
02:02:00.046 --> 02:02:02.715
RESOURCE. AND TO ENSURE THE
02:02:02.782 --> 02:02:04.083
PROPOSED TRUST FUND IS TRULY
02:02:04.150 --> 02:02:05.785
EQUITABLE. REGARDING THE INTERIM
02:02:05.851 --> 02:02:07.420
TARGETS. WE HAVE CONSISTENTLY
02:02:07.486 --> 02:02:08.721
EXPRESSED CONCERNS WITH THE
02:02:08.788 --> 02:02:10.656
INCLUSION OF DIGEST OR GAS AS AN
02:02:10.723 --> 02:02:12.224
ELIGIBLE RENEWABLE ENERGY
02:02:12.291 --> 02:02:13.592
RESOURCE SPECIFICALLY AND ITS
02:02:13.659 --> 02:02:14.794
CONSIDERATION AS A CLEAN ENERGY
02:02:14.860 --> 02:02:17.263
SOURCE GENERALLY. OUR CONCERNS
02:02:17.329 --> 02:02:18.898
ARE GROUNDED IN THE EXPERIENCES
02:02:18.964 --> 02:02:20.633
OF RESIDENTS IN THE SAN JOAQUIN
02:02:20.700 --> 02:02:21.834
VALLEY, WHERE MASSIVE DAIRIES
02:02:21.901 --> 02:02:22.468
AND MANURE LAGOONS ARE
02:02:22.535 --> 02:02:24.236
CONCENTRATED ENERGY PRODUCED
02:02:24.303 --> 02:02:25.571
FROM DAIRY METHANE IS THE
02:02:25.638 --> 02:02:26.772
PRODUCT OF THESE INDUSTRIAL
02:02:26.839 --> 02:02:27.740
AREAS, WHICH CONTAMINATE THE AIR
02:02:27.807 --> 02:02:29.575
AND WATER OF LOW INCOME
02:02:29.642 --> 02:02:30.576
COMMUNITIES AND COMMUNITIES OF
02:02:30.643 --> 02:02:32.678
COLOR. WHAT MANURE LEACHES INTO
02:02:32.745 --> 02:02:33.946
GROUNDWATER CONTAMINATING
02:02:34.013 --> 02:02:36.015
DRINKING WATER SOURCES DIGESTED
02:02:36.082 --> 02:02:37.850
MANURE APPLIED TO LAND FOLLOWING
02:02:37.917 --> 02:02:39.885
FOLLOWING DIGESTION CONTAINS THE
02:02:39.952 --> 02:02:40.953
SAME AMOUNT OF NITRATE AS
02:02:41.020 --> 02:02:42.855
MANURE, PRE DIGESTION. POST DOES
02:02:42.922 --> 02:02:43.889
NOT SOLVE GROUNDWATER
02:02:43.956 --> 02:02:46.325
CONTAMINATION ISSUES. LARGE
02:02:46.392 --> 02:02:47.359
INDUSTRIAL DAIRIES PRODUCED
02:02:47.426 --> 02:02:48.861
SIGNIFICANT AIR POLLUTION AND
02:02:48.928 --> 02:02:50.463
GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS. IN
02:02:50.529 --> 02:02:51.931
ADDITION, COMMUNITIES NEAR THESE
02:02:51.997 --> 02:02:53.499
DAIRIES VISCERALLY EXPERIENCE
02:02:53.566 --> 02:02:55.401
THE FOUL ODORS AND FLIES THAT
02:02:55.468 --> 02:02:57.203
IMPACT QUALITY OF LIFE IN THEIR
02:02:57.269 --> 02:02:57.603
HOMES AND IN THEIR
02:02:57.670 --> 02:02:58.270
NEIGHBORHOODS. DIGESTER GAS
02:02:58.337 --> 02:02:59.672
PRODUCTION DOES NOT SOLVE THE
02:02:59.739 --> 02:03:00.906
PROBLEM OF AIR POLLUTION FROM
02:03:00.973 --> 02:03:01.974
DARIUS NOR THE METHANE FROM
02:03:02.041 --> 02:03:04.577
ENTERIC EMISSIONS. THE INCLUSION
02:03:04.643 --> 02:03:06.712
OF DIGESTER GAS AS A RENEWABLE
02:03:06.779 --> 02:03:08.447
ENERGY RESOURCE AND ZERO CARBON
02:03:08.514 --> 02:03:11.016
RESOURCE HAS PAVED THE WAY AND
02:03:11.083 --> 02:03:11.617
WILL CONTINUE TO FOR POLICIES
02:03:11.684 --> 02:03:13.652
THAT INCENTIVIZE THE PRODUCTION
02:03:13.719 --> 02:03:15.321
OF METHANE THAT IN THE FORM OF
02:03:15.387 --> 02:03:16.589
WHAT MANURE? CURRENT POLICY
02:03:16.655 --> 02:03:17.990
ENCOURAGES PRODUCTION OF DAIRY
02:03:18.057 --> 02:03:19.992
DIGESTER GAS, UM, RESULTS IN THE
02:03:20.059 --> 02:03:21.627
CONCENTRATION OF COW'S MANURE
02:03:21.694 --> 02:03:22.895
AND FEED NEAR ALREADY POLLUTION
02:03:22.962 --> 02:03:25.631
BURDEN COMMUNITIES. THROUGHOUT
02:03:25.698 --> 02:03:27.032
THE SAN JOAQUIN VALLEY RIGHT NOW
02:03:27.099 --> 02:03:28.634
, DAIRY HERDS ARE CONCENTRATING
02:03:28.701 --> 02:03:30.336
AROUND AND IN CONJUNCTION WITH
02:03:30.402 --> 02:03:31.937
THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO PRODUCE
02:03:32.004 --> 02:03:33.205
AND DISTRIBUTE DIGESTER GAS,
02:03:33.272 --> 02:03:34.707
WHICH IS THE OBVIOUS CONSEQUENCE
02:03:34.774 --> 02:03:36.942
OF ENCOURAGING GAS PRODUCTION.
02:03:37.009 --> 02:03:38.444
OF DAIRY DIGESTER GAS THROUGH
02:03:38.511 --> 02:03:39.578
THROUGH OUR ENERGY AND CLIMATE
02:03:39.645 --> 02:03:42.448
POLICIES. WE'RE GETTING THE
02:03:42.515 --> 02:03:43.916
TRUST FUND. WE ARE GENERALLY
02:03:43.983 --> 02:03:44.950
SUPPORTIVE OF THE CONCEPT.
02:03:45.017 --> 02:03:46.919
HOWEVER WE HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT
02:03:46.986 --> 02:03:47.920
HOW THE PROPOSED STRUCTURE WOULD
02:03:47.987 --> 02:03:49.488
BE RESPONSIVE TO THE NEEDS OF
02:03:49.555 --> 02:03:49.955
ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE
02:03:50.022 --> 02:03:51.357
COMMUNITIES AND HOW IT WOULD
02:03:51.423 --> 02:03:52.992
INTERACT WITH EXISTING PROGRAMS.
02:03:53.058 --> 02:03:54.460
MY COLLEAGUE RAQUEL FROM, SAY,
02:03:54.527 --> 02:03:55.694
HI. WE'LL DISCUSS THIS FURTHER
02:03:55.761 --> 02:03:57.630
IN HER TESTIMONY. WE DO BELIEVE
02:03:57.696 --> 02:03:58.831
THAT OUR CONCERNS SHOULD BE
02:03:58.898 --> 02:04:00.499
ADDRESSED IN THIS BILL, AND WE
02:04:00.566 --> 02:04:02.401
LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THE
02:04:02.468 --> 02:04:03.469
COMMITTEE AND AUTHORS TO ADDRESS
02:04:03.536 --> 02:04:04.703
THEM. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
02:04:04.770 --> 02:04:06.405
THANK YOU. NEXT PRIMARY WITNESS.
02:04:06.472 --> 02:04:08.507
HI GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIR GARCIA
02:04:08.574 --> 02:04:09.575
AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS. MY NAME
02:04:09.642 --> 02:04:11.610
IS RAQUEL MASON, AND I AM THE
02:04:11.677 --> 02:04:13.078
POLICY MANAGER FOR THE
02:04:13.145 --> 02:04:15.414
CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE
02:04:15.481 --> 02:04:16.715
APPRECIATE THE SERIOUSNESS WITH
02:04:16.782 --> 02:04:18.484
WHICH THE SENATOR IS TAKING OUR
02:04:18.551 --> 02:04:19.952
CLIMATE CRISIS BUT MUST SPEAK
02:04:20.019 --> 02:04:21.120
RESPECTFULLY, SORRY. SPEAKING
02:04:21.187 --> 02:04:25.024
OPPOSITION. SB 10 20 LESS KEY
02:04:25.090 --> 02:04:26.659
AMENDMENTS ARE MADE AS B 10 20
02:04:26.725 --> 02:04:28.194
CREATES A CLIMATE IN EQUITY
02:04:28.260 --> 02:04:28.961
TRUST FUND THAT CONCEPTUALLY WE
02:04:29.028 --> 02:04:31.197
ARE SUPPORTIVE OF, BUT AS IT IS
02:04:31.263 --> 02:04:32.965
IN PRINT RAISES CONCERNS. WE
02:04:33.032 --> 02:04:33.999
BELIEVE IT REQUIRES ADDITIONAL
02:04:34.066 --> 02:04:35.467
DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION. AS
02:04:35.534 --> 02:04:36.669
CURRENTLY OUTLINED THE TRUST
02:04:36.735 --> 02:04:38.137
FUND WOULD REPURPOSE AND FINAL
02:04:38.204 --> 02:04:39.772
EXISTING SOURCES OF FUNDING
02:04:39.839 --> 02:04:41.073
WHICH WE FEAR WILL DRAW FUNDING
02:04:41.140 --> 02:04:42.575
AWAY FROM CRITICAL PROGRAMS,
02:04:42.641 --> 02:04:44.343
CLARIFYING THAT THE INTENT OF
02:04:44.410 --> 02:04:46.078
THE TRUST FUND WOULD BE TO
02:04:46.145 --> 02:04:47.279
CREATE ADDITIONAL FUNDING AND
02:04:47.346 --> 02:04:48.781
NOT REPLACE EXISTING PROGRAMS
02:04:48.848 --> 02:04:50.182
WOULD ALLEVIATE CONCERNS AND
02:04:50.249 --> 02:04:50.716
ENSURE THAT PROGRAMS ARE
02:04:50.783 --> 02:04:51.851
COMMUNITIES DEPEND ON REMAINED
02:04:51.917 --> 02:04:54.453
AS ATTENDED. TO MINISTER THE
02:04:54.520 --> 02:04:56.689
TRUST FUND. SB 10 20 PROPOSES A
02:04:56.755 --> 02:04:59.024
NEW NONPROFIT AUTHORITY THAT HAS
02:04:59.091 --> 02:04:59.992
WRITTEN IS CONFUSING AND
02:05:00.059 --> 02:05:01.393
COMPLICATED. WE ARE CONCERNED
02:05:01.460 --> 02:05:04.096
ABOUT TRANSPARENCY AND THEIR
02:05:04.163 --> 02:05:05.164
ACCOUNTABILITY TO ENVIRONMENTAL
02:05:05.231 --> 02:05:06.165
JUSTICE COMMUNITIES, THE SHORT
02:05:06.232 --> 02:05:09.068
TERM SERVICE UM, FOR THE
02:05:09.134 --> 02:05:10.135
APPOINTEES COULD RESULT IN
02:05:10.202 --> 02:05:11.403
EMPLOYEES WITHOUT SUFFICIENT
02:05:11.470 --> 02:05:12.638
TIME TO DIG DEEP INTO THESE
02:05:12.705 --> 02:05:13.873
HIGHLY COMPLICATED ISSUES.
02:05:13.939 --> 02:05:15.908
ADDITIONALLY SETTING UP A NEW
02:05:15.975 --> 02:05:16.609
AUTHORITY COULD PLAY THE
02:05:16.675 --> 02:05:17.676
DEPLOYMENT OF FUNDING TO
02:05:17.743 --> 02:05:19.578
CRITICAL PROGRAMS AS WELL AS
02:05:19.645 --> 02:05:20.913
CREATE A NEW LAYER OF
02:05:20.980 --> 02:05:21.947
BUREAUCRACY FOR EGYPT,
02:05:22.014 --> 02:05:22.948
COMMUNITIES TO NAVIGATE AND
02:05:23.015 --> 02:05:24.250
HARDY OPAQUE BUDGET ADVOCACY AND
02:05:24.316 --> 02:05:26.585
IMPLEMENTATION PROCESS. WE ARE
02:05:26.652 --> 02:05:28.420
CONCERNED WITH THE POTENTIAL
02:05:28.487 --> 02:05:28.921
THAT THE TRUST FUND MAY
02:05:28.988 --> 02:05:30.522
AUTHORIZE THE STATE AGENCY WITH
02:05:30.589 --> 02:05:31.590
PROCUREMENT POWERS, SHIFTING
02:05:31.657 --> 02:05:32.625
PROCUREMENT RESPONSIBILITIES TO
02:05:32.691 --> 02:05:33.993
THE STATE WARRANTS DEEP AND
02:05:34.059 --> 02:05:35.995
INCLUSIVE CONVERSATIONS THAT TO
02:05:36.061 --> 02:05:37.496
DATE HAVE NOT TAKEN PLACE A
02:05:37.563 --> 02:05:39.431
SHIFT OF THIS KIND. WE NEED TO
02:05:39.498 --> 02:05:40.599
BE THOUGHTFUL AND INCLUSIVE, TO
02:05:40.666 --> 02:05:41.600
AVOID UNINTENDED RISK TO
02:05:41.667 --> 02:05:42.902
FRONTLINE COMMUNITIES. FINALLY
02:05:42.968 --> 02:05:44.970
THIS BILL DOES NOT INCLUDE
02:05:45.037 --> 02:05:45.771
DETAILS TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S
02:05:45.838 --> 02:05:47.139
EQUITABLE ACCESS TO THESE FUNDS
02:05:47.206 --> 02:05:49.408
WITHOUT EXPLICITLY PRIORITIZING
02:05:49.475 --> 02:05:51.076
OVERBURDEN COMMUNITIES. WE DO
02:05:51.143 --> 02:05:53.178
NOT SEE THIS HOW THIS COULD BE
02:05:53.245 --> 02:05:54.280
CONSIDERED A CLIMATE IN EQUITY
02:05:54.346 --> 02:05:55.681
FUND. OUR MEMBERS WOULD WELCOME
02:05:55.748 --> 02:05:56.882
THE OPPORTUNITY TO DIG INTO
02:05:56.949 --> 02:05:59.318
THESE DETAILS AND ANSWER THESE
02:05:59.385 --> 02:06:00.286
DIFFICULT QUESTIONS AGAIN. WE
02:06:00.352 --> 02:06:01.086
APPRECIATE THE SENATOR'S
02:06:01.153 --> 02:06:02.121
COURAGEOUS LEADERSHIP ON THESE
02:06:02.187 --> 02:06:03.555
ISSUES AND WANT TO BE TRUE
02:06:03.622 --> 02:06:04.757
PARTNERS AND MEETING THIS
02:06:04.823 --> 02:06:05.858
EXISTENTIAL CHALLENGE WITH
02:06:05.925 --> 02:06:06.859
EQUITY PRIORITIZED ACROSS THE
02:06:06.926 --> 02:06:08.994
BOARD. TO ADEQUATELY ADEQUATELY
02:06:09.061 --> 02:06:09.962
ADDRESSED THESE CONCERNS. WE
02:06:10.029 --> 02:06:11.463
SUGGEST THAT THE TRUST FUND BE
02:06:11.530 --> 02:06:12.965
DISCUSSED SEPARATELY FROM
02:06:13.032 --> 02:06:14.400
SENDING SETTING INTERIM TARGETS
02:06:14.466 --> 02:06:15.534
A FRAMEWORK AS AMBITIOUS AND
02:06:15.601 --> 02:06:16.769
INTERCONNECTED AS THAT OUTLINED
02:06:16.835 --> 02:06:19.238
AND SB 10 20. WARRANTS A
02:06:19.305 --> 02:06:20.706
SEPARATE POLICY VEHICLE AND A
02:06:20.773 --> 02:06:22.308
MEANINGFUL ENGAGEMENT PROCESS.
02:06:22.374 --> 02:06:23.809
WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR THE
02:06:23.876 --> 02:06:24.443
COLLABORATIVE SPIRIT WITH WHICH
02:06:24.510 --> 02:06:26.445
THE SENATE CLEMENT RIGHT WORKING
02:06:26.512 --> 02:06:28.180
GROUP AND THE SENATOR LEAD WITH
02:06:28.247 --> 02:06:29.682
WE ASKED THAT FURTHER SPACE FOR
02:06:29.748 --> 02:06:30.616
DISCUSSION AND MEANINGFUL
02:06:30.683 --> 02:06:32.351
PARTNERSHIP CREATED. TO SO THAT
02:06:32.418 --> 02:06:33.852
WE CAN DISCUSS THE CLIMATE IN
02:06:33.919 --> 02:06:35.254
EQUITY TRUST FUND THOUGHTFULLY
02:06:35.321 --> 02:06:36.722
AND MAKE SURE THAT IT POSSIBLY
02:06:36.789 --> 02:06:38.557
AND MEANINGFULLY MEETS THE NEEDS
02:06:38.624 --> 02:06:39.525
OF THE MOST VULNERABLE
02:06:39.591 --> 02:06:40.960
CALIFORNIANS. FOR THESE REASONS,
02:06:41.026 --> 02:06:42.127
IT HAS RESPECTFULLY AND OPPOSING
02:06:42.194 --> 02:06:43.095
THIS AMENDED POSITION. THANK
02:06:43.162 --> 02:06:45.864
YOU. THANK YOU. THOSE IN THE
02:06:45.931 --> 02:06:46.665
ROOM WISHING TO SPEAK AND
02:06:46.732 --> 02:06:48.834
SUPPORT YOUR NAME AFFILIATION.
02:06:48.901 --> 02:06:55.507
AND AGAIN, THIS IS IN SUPPORT.
02:06:55.574 --> 02:06:56.475
MR CHAIR MEMBERS. BRIAN WHITE ON
02:06:56.542 --> 02:06:57.576
BEHALF OF OFFSHORE WIND.
02:06:57.643 --> 02:06:58.577
CALIFORNIA WERE ALSO IN SUPPORT.
02:06:58.644 --> 02:07:03.449
THANK YOU. AFTERNOON JENNING
02:07:03.515 --> 02:07:04.583
STRONG WITH ALPERT, CALIFORNIA
02:07:04.650 --> 02:07:05.484
PUBLIC INTEREST RESEARCH GROUP
02:07:05.551 --> 02:07:10.356
AND SUPPORT. KIM CALLS ON BEHALF
02:07:10.422 --> 02:07:12.324
OF SANDY WHO GAS, ELECTRIC AND
02:07:12.391 --> 02:07:13.392
SUPPORT AND WILL CONTINUE TO
02:07:13.459 --> 02:07:15.961
WORK WITH THE AUTHOR. THANK YOU.
02:07:16.028 --> 02:07:17.496
CATHERINE BRANDENBURG, WITH THE
02:07:17.563 --> 02:07:19.164
BRANDENBURG GROUP ON BEHALF OF
02:07:19.231 --> 02:07:23.335
SONOMA CLEAN POWER IN SUPPORT.
02:07:23.402 --> 02:07:24.937
READ AT US ON BEHALF OF CENTRAL
02:07:25.004 --> 02:07:26.238
COAST ENERGY SERVICES AND
02:07:26.305 --> 02:07:27.973
SUPPORT. THANK THANK YOU, THOSE
02:07:28.040 --> 02:07:29.742
IN THE ROOM WISHING TO REGISTER
02:07:29.808 --> 02:07:34.446
OPPOSITION. TO THE BILL. THANK
02:07:34.513 --> 02:07:35.614
YOU. BRING IT. BRING IT. BRING
02:07:35.681 --> 02:07:38.450
IT. BRING IT RIGHT, NOT TIPSY.
02:07:38.517 --> 02:07:39.785
BUT A TWEENER JUST WANTED TO
02:07:39.852 --> 02:07:42.054
ACKNOWLEDGE A PATRICK WELSH WITH
02:07:42.121 --> 02:07:42.588
THE CALIFORNIA MUNICIPAL
02:07:42.654 --> 02:07:43.122
ASSOCIATION WITH DOMINANT
02:07:43.188 --> 02:07:44.456
POSITION, BUT WE HAVE SUBMITTED
02:07:44.523 --> 02:07:45.691
ONE OF THE STAKEHOLDERS THAT
02:07:45.758 --> 02:07:46.792
HAVE SUBMITTED AMENDMENTS TO THE
02:07:46.859 --> 02:07:47.960
AUTHOR'S OFFICE AND LOOK FORWARD
02:07:48.027 --> 02:07:49.128
TO FURTHER DISCUSSIONS. THANK
02:07:49.194 --> 02:07:53.499
YOU. MR CHAIRMAN MEMBER, MICHAEL
02:07:53.565 --> 02:07:54.933
BROKE ADORA WITH THE EGG ENERGY
02:07:55.000 --> 02:07:56.702
CONSUMERS ASSOCIATION. WE DON'T
02:07:56.769 --> 02:07:58.404
HAVE A POSITION ON THE BILL. WE
02:07:58.470 --> 02:08:00.706
DO WANT TO THANK THE AUTHOR FOR
02:08:00.773 --> 02:08:01.840
NOT, UM, ADOPTING THE PROPOSED
02:08:01.907 --> 02:08:02.775
AMENDMENTS REGARDING DAIRY BIO
02:08:02.841 --> 02:08:04.843
METHANE. I'VE BEEN WORKING IN
02:08:04.910 --> 02:08:06.712
THIS SPACE FOR 30 YEARS. TURNING
02:08:06.779 --> 02:08:09.181
COW INTO RENEWABLE NATURAL GAS
02:08:09.248 --> 02:08:10.816
FOR USE AND HEAVY DUTY TRUCKS.
02:08:10.883 --> 02:08:12.851
HYDROGEN FOR USE OF THE PORTS TO
02:08:12.918 --> 02:08:14.887
CLEAN OUR AIR IS IN SOME WAY NOT
02:08:14.953 --> 02:08:16.722
RENEWABLE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE
02:08:16.789 --> 02:08:17.856
DEFINITION MEANS TO EXCLUDE IT
02:08:17.923 --> 02:08:21.393
AS A JOKE. HELP MANURE. THANK
02:08:21.460 --> 02:08:25.631
YOU. YEAH POOP COUPLE, UM,
02:08:25.697 --> 02:08:26.965
ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO REGISTER
02:08:27.032 --> 02:08:31.503
THEIR OPPOSITION? OKAY? WELL. GO
02:08:31.570 --> 02:08:36.241
TO THE MODERATOR. MR MODERATOR.
02:08:36.308 --> 02:08:37.509
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO SB 10
02:08:37.576 --> 02:08:49.154
20.
02:08:49.221 --> 02:08:55.694
MR MODERATOR. MODERATE. YOU KNOW
02:08:55.761 --> 02:08:57.729
, MR CHAIR? I APOLOGIZE. PARDON
02:08:57.796 --> 02:08:59.698
ME FOR THOSE WHO WISH TO SPEAK
02:08:59.765 --> 02:09:01.433
IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION OF THIS
02:09:01.500 --> 02:09:02.501
BILL, PLEASE PRESS ONE THAN
02:09:02.568 --> 02:09:04.670
ZERO. WE'RE GOING TO GO TO LINE
02:09:04.736 --> 02:09:08.574
85. GOOD AFTERNOON, MR CHAIRMAN,
02:09:08.640 --> 02:09:09.675
RICHARD MARCUSSEN FOR THE
02:09:09.741 --> 02:09:11.410
WESTERN ELECTRICAL CONTRACTORS
02:09:11.477 --> 02:09:13.745
ASSOCIATION OPPOSED TO THE
02:09:13.812 --> 02:09:15.180
PROVISIONS AND THE MEASURES
02:09:15.247 --> 02:09:16.515
WHICH WILL DO FOR CLEAN ENERGY.
02:09:16.582 --> 02:09:18.317
WHAT PLS HAVE DONE FOR BELOW
02:09:18.383 --> 02:09:19.051
MARKET RATE APARTMENTS. AND
02:09:19.118 --> 02:09:20.052
HOUSING IN CALIFORNIA. THANK
02:09:20.119 --> 02:09:25.791
YOU. SURE LINE 86. THOUGHT OF
02:09:25.858 --> 02:09:27.893
THAT MEMBER HAS BEEN SPORT MODEL
02:09:27.960 --> 02:09:28.961
WITH THE CLIMATE CENTER IN
02:09:29.027 --> 02:09:34.133
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. LINE 88. MR
02:09:34.199 --> 02:09:35.701
TURN MEMBERS, SEAN MCNEIL, WITH
02:09:35.767 --> 02:09:36.902
THE CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY CHOICE
02:09:36.969 --> 02:09:38.437
ASSOCIATION. ALSO IN SUPPORT.
02:09:38.504 --> 02:09:42.908
THANK YOU. LINE NINE. AND JANET
02:09:42.975 --> 02:09:45.043
COX FOR 3, 50 SILICON VALLEY AND
02:09:45.110 --> 02:09:50.849
SUPPORT LINE 50. GRACE PRAT WITH
02:09:50.916 --> 02:09:52.217
THE CALIFORNIA ENERGY STORAGE
02:09:52.284 --> 02:09:57.656
LINES AND SUPPORT LINE. OKAY
02:09:57.723 --> 02:10:04.129
PARDON ME. MINE 52. JOSHUA KOBE
02:10:04.196 --> 02:10:05.164
WITH THE UTILITY REFORM
02:10:05.230 --> 02:10:08.200
NETWORKING SUPPORT WE'RE GOING
02:10:08.267 --> 02:10:16.408
TO GO NOW TO LINE 82. 9 82. YOUR
02:10:16.475 --> 02:10:24.983
LINE IS NOW OPEN. GOING TO MOVE
02:10:25.050 --> 02:10:31.089
ON TO LINE 89. MATERIAL AUGER
02:10:31.156 --> 02:10:33.225
AND I'M FROM PASADENA,
02:10:33.292 --> 02:10:34.393
CALIFORNIA AND I AM IN
02:10:34.459 --> 02:10:43.569
OPPOSITION. T<c.cyan> CHAIR. THERE IS</c>
02:10:43.635 --> 02:10:45.737
NO ONE ELSE TO SIGNAL THAT THEY
02:10:45.804 --> 02:10:47.206
WISH TO SPEAK. THANK YOU. WE'LL
02:10:47.272 --> 02:10:49.074
BRING IT BACK TO, UH GUYS WILL
02:10:49.141 --> 02:10:52.945
GO, MR. MASON, THEN VICE CHAIR.
02:10:53.011 --> 02:10:55.047
THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. JUST JUST
02:10:55.113 --> 02:10:56.048
HAVE ONE QUESTION. BUT BEFORE
02:10:56.114 --> 02:10:57.583
THE QUESTION JUST WANTED TO SAY
02:10:57.649 --> 02:10:59.518
I ACTUALLY REGRET OF MINE THAT I
02:10:59.585 --> 02:11:01.887
DID NOT VOTE IN SUPPORT OF SB
02:11:01.954 --> 02:11:03.488
100, EVEN THOUGH I KNOW DAN
02:11:03.555 --> 02:11:06.258
JACOBSON TRIED VERY HARD TO GET
02:11:06.325 --> 02:11:08.727
ME THERE. UM AH, BUT I WISH THAT
02:11:08.794 --> 02:11:11.496
I HAD IN HIGH IN HINDSIGHT, SO
02:11:11.563 --> 02:11:13.799
I'M I'M WANT TO SUPPORT THIS
02:11:13.865 --> 02:11:16.168
TODAY BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THIS
02:11:16.235 --> 02:11:17.202
IS YOUR CHANCE FOR REDEMPTION.
02:11:17.269 --> 02:11:19.438
YES THANK YOU. I DO HAVE A
02:11:19.504 --> 02:11:21.673
QUESTION, HOWEVER. UM, LOOKING
02:11:21.740 --> 02:11:24.543
AT THE ANALYSIS, UM, THE ON
02:11:24.610 --> 02:11:26.411
PARAGRAPH SIX SEEDS WHERE IT
02:11:26.478 --> 02:11:28.080
TALKS ABOUT. UM THIS CLIMATE
02:11:28.146 --> 02:11:30.282
EQUITY TRUST FUND. UM AND THEN
02:11:30.349 --> 02:11:33.352
IT SAYS THAT THE MONIES WILL
02:11:33.418 --> 02:11:36.688
COME FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
02:11:36.755 --> 02:11:41.126
FROM G R F ANOTHER SOURCE IS, UM
02:11:41.193 --> 02:11:42.728
, IS THERE AN AMOUNT? THAT IS
02:11:42.794 --> 02:11:45.464
SPECIFIC? UH AND HOW MUCH MONEY
02:11:45.530 --> 02:11:47.099
ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? THAT WILL
02:11:47.165 --> 02:11:48.834
BE TRANSFERRED. IS THERE IS
02:11:48.900 --> 02:11:49.334
THERE A LINE ITEM THERE
02:11:49.401 --> 02:11:51.770
SOMEWHERE? THERE'S THANK YOU FOR
02:11:51.837 --> 02:11:54.072
THE QUESTION. THERE'S NOT A LINE
02:11:54.139 --> 02:11:56.108
ITEM PER SAY THAT. THERE'S TWO
02:11:56.174 --> 02:11:58.610
PIECES OF THAT ONE IS AS WE WERE
02:11:58.677 --> 02:12:00.746
TRYING TO BE FLEXIBLE AND
02:12:00.812 --> 02:12:01.413
ALLOWING ANY POSSIBLE SOURCE TO
02:12:01.480 --> 02:12:03.682
BE INCLUDED IN THE BILL. WHETHER
02:12:03.749 --> 02:12:04.149
IT'S FEDERAL. THAT'S
02:12:04.216 --> 02:12:05.484
UNANTICIPATED THAT COMES OR
02:12:05.550 --> 02:12:06.785
GREENHOUSE GAS REDUCTION THAT
02:12:06.852 --> 02:12:08.587
MIGHT BE AN ONGOING STREAM OR
02:12:08.654 --> 02:12:10.289
THE GENERAL FUND. AND WE
02:12:10.355 --> 02:12:13.558
ACTUALLY HAD MONEY IN THIS BILL.
02:12:13.625 --> 02:12:16.228
AND ON THE MONDAY MORNING OF THE
02:12:16.295 --> 02:12:18.163
DEADLINE WEEK I TOOK IT OUT
02:12:18.230 --> 02:12:19.898
BECAUSE WE HAD COVID CASES AND I
02:12:19.965 --> 02:12:21.800
WAS WORRIED ABOUT GETTING TO TWO
02:12:21.867 --> 02:12:22.901
THIRDS ON THURSDAY IF THEY ALL
02:12:22.968 --> 02:12:25.003
STILL WEREN'T THERE, AND IT WAS
02:12:25.070 --> 02:12:26.805
IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF $5
02:12:26.872 --> 02:12:29.841
BILLION THAT WE WERE PUTTING IN.
02:12:29.908 --> 02:12:31.543
I THINK A LESSER AMOUNT IS BEING
02:12:31.610 --> 02:12:32.377
DISCUSSED IN THE BUDGET
02:12:32.444 --> 02:12:36.748
DISCUSSIONS. OKAY AND YOU NEED A
02:12:36.815 --> 02:12:38.383
CERTAIN AMOUNT TO TRULY IMPACT
02:12:38.450 --> 02:12:41.653
ELECTRICITY RATES, EVEN THOUGH
02:12:41.720 --> 02:12:43.021
IT'S TARGETED TO LOW OR MODERATE
02:12:43.088 --> 02:12:45.590
INCOME PEOPLE, BUT UTILITY
02:12:45.657 --> 02:12:47.559
RIGHTS OVERALL, OKAY, AND SINCE
02:12:47.626 --> 02:12:50.429
IT'S NOT IN THERE, AND I'M SURE
02:12:50.495 --> 02:12:52.497
AT SOME POINT IN TIME, WE'LL BE
02:12:52.564 --> 02:12:54.032
HAVING THAT CONVERSATION. QUITE
02:12:54.099 --> 02:12:55.067
LIKELY. MAYBE HAVING THAT
02:12:55.133 --> 02:12:56.735
DISCUSSION AS PART OF THE BUDGET
02:12:56.802 --> 02:12:57.402
TRAILER BUILD DISCUSSIONS. SURE.
02:12:57.469 --> 02:12:58.837
AND THE REASON I ASKED THAT
02:12:58.904 --> 02:13:00.372
QUESTION, TOO, IS IT'S WHEN
02:13:00.439 --> 02:13:02.341
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE G R F
02:13:02.407 --> 02:13:04.876
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK
02:13:04.943 --> 02:13:05.544
AS IN THIS, IT'S GERMANE TO THIS
02:13:05.610 --> 02:13:06.578
CONVERSATION, BUT NOT RELATED TO
02:13:06.645 --> 02:13:08.714
THE TO THE BILL. SO IF THE CHAIR
02:13:08.780 --> 02:13:10.716
WILL ALLOW ME JUST TO OPINE FOR
02:13:10.782 --> 02:13:12.584
JUST A SECOND, I DO THINK UM,
02:13:12.651 --> 02:13:13.418
WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE
02:13:13.485 --> 02:13:14.920
MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF MONEY THAT
02:13:14.986 --> 02:13:16.788
ARE COMING IN FROM SOME OF THESE
02:13:16.855 --> 02:13:18.256
PROGRAMS THAT HAVE THE INTENT OF
02:13:18.323 --> 02:13:20.158
REDUCING OUR GREENHOUSE GAS
02:13:20.225 --> 02:13:21.259
EMISSIONS. UM, THE STATE HAS NOT
02:13:21.326 --> 02:13:23.895
BEEN EFFECTIVE AT ALL AND TRYING
02:13:23.962 --> 02:13:25.297
TO COME UP WITH NEW INNOVATIONS
02:13:25.364 --> 02:13:26.498
TO TRY TO TRULY TRY TO REDUCE
02:13:26.565 --> 02:13:28.233
OUR GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS AND
02:13:28.300 --> 02:13:29.901
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT LEVEL
02:13:29.968 --> 02:13:31.503
OF MONEY. NOT ONLY DOES THERE
02:13:31.570 --> 02:13:33.338
NEED TO BE AN EQUITY FUND, BUT
02:13:33.405 --> 02:13:34.506
THERE REALLY NEEDS TO BE SOME
02:13:34.573 --> 02:13:36.375
SORT OF INNOVATION FUND TO DO
02:13:36.441 --> 02:13:38.877
WHAT WE CAN TO COME UP WITH NEW
02:13:38.944 --> 02:13:41.179
INNOVATIONS TO REDUCE GREENHOUSE
02:13:41.246 --> 02:13:42.247
GAS EMISSIONS, AND THEN WE CAN
02:13:42.314 --> 02:13:43.482
EXPORT THAT TO THE REST OF THE
02:13:43.548 --> 02:13:45.584
WORLD. SO THANK YOU AND I'LL BE
02:13:45.650 --> 02:13:47.219
SUPPORTING TODAY. THANK YOU. I
02:13:47.285 --> 02:13:50.756
WANT TO FURTHER. ASK HIM
02:13:50.822 --> 02:13:54.893
QUESTION ABOUT THIS FUND. I AM I
02:13:54.960 --> 02:13:56.461
TO UNDERSTAND THAT YOU THINK
02:13:56.528 --> 02:13:58.563
THAT IN ORDER TO HELP TO REDUCE
02:13:58.630 --> 02:14:01.366
THE RATES THAT IN FACT, I THINK
02:14:01.433 --> 02:14:02.501
THE POLICIES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
02:14:02.567 --> 02:14:04.803
HERE HAVEN'T HAVE INDUCED FOR
02:14:04.870 --> 02:14:06.138
RATEPAYERS. $5 BILLION. WITH A
02:14:06.204 --> 02:14:11.143
B. AM I HEARING THAT CORRECTLY?
02:14:11.209 --> 02:14:12.744
YOU'RE HEARING HOW MUCH WE WERE
02:14:12.811 --> 02:14:14.312
TALKING ABOUT PUTTING TOWARD IT.
02:14:14.379 --> 02:14:16.581
THAT IS NOT A PRICE TAG EITHER
02:14:16.648 --> 02:14:17.783
WAY, AND THE OTHER THING YOU
02:14:17.849 --> 02:14:19.918
TALKED, AND THEN THE OTHER
02:14:19.985 --> 02:14:21.453
QUESTION IS ABOUT THE, UM THE
02:14:21.520 --> 02:14:23.121
PLACES THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET.
02:14:23.188 --> 02:14:27.859
THE MONEY. HOW AND THEN HOW DO
02:14:27.926 --> 02:14:29.795
YOU GET IT DISTRIBUTED? I MEAN,
02:14:29.861 --> 02:14:31.763
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A BIG FUND AND
02:14:31.830 --> 02:14:33.832
WHAT? HOW DOES IT GET
02:14:33.899 --> 02:14:34.833
DISTRIBUTED TO RATEPAYERS WHO
02:14:34.900 --> 02:14:38.437
ARE HUGE RATE INCREASES. THAT'S
02:14:38.503 --> 02:14:40.539
WHY WE ARE CREATING A MECHANISM
02:14:40.605 --> 02:14:42.908
TO DECIDE TO DISTRIBUTION AND
02:14:42.974 --> 02:14:45.076
JUST TO PIGGYBACK ON ONE THING,
02:14:45.143 --> 02:14:46.945
THE LETTER THAT CAME IN FROM THE
02:14:47.012 --> 02:14:48.346
OPPONENTS WAS REALLY CLEAR ABOUT
02:14:48.413 --> 02:14:50.115
BIOGAS, BUT IT DIDN'T INCLUDE
02:14:50.182 --> 02:14:51.149
ANYTHING ABOUT THEIR INTEREST
02:14:51.216 --> 02:14:53.318
ABOUT HOW TO BE DISTRIBUTED AND
02:14:53.385 --> 02:14:54.853
WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO CONTINUE
02:14:54.920 --> 02:14:56.455
TALKING ABOUT THAT WE WOULD BE
02:14:56.521 --> 02:14:58.790
HAPPY TO TALK, SO THERE'S
02:14:58.857 --> 02:14:59.825
NOTHING IN THE BILL WITH RESPECT
02:14:59.891 --> 02:15:02.194
TO HOW IT'S GOING TO BE
02:15:02.260 --> 02:15:03.328
DISTRIBUTED CREATES THE
02:15:03.395 --> 02:15:04.696
MECHANISM FOR DISTRIBUTING IT
02:15:04.763 --> 02:15:05.764
CREATES. THE POLICY ALSO SETS
02:15:05.831 --> 02:15:11.837
UP. A SERIOUS COMPETITION. FOR
02:15:11.903 --> 02:15:13.104
FUNDS EITHER OUT OF THE GENERAL
02:15:13.171 --> 02:15:15.907
FUND OR OUT OF THE G H G FUND OR
02:15:15.974 --> 02:15:17.776
THESE OTHERS. OUR OUR. ISN'T
02:15:17.843 --> 02:15:20.212
THIS LEGISLATURE GOING TO HAVE
02:15:20.278 --> 02:15:22.214
TO DECIDE HOW MUCH YOU TAKE FROM
02:15:22.280 --> 02:15:24.115
HERE AND HOW MUCH YOU TAKE FROM
02:15:24.182 --> 02:15:24.883
THERE? BUT THERE'S NOTHING IN
02:15:24.950 --> 02:15:26.451
THE BILL. EXCEPT THE BILL SETS
02:15:26.518 --> 02:15:28.453
UP THE PROCESS AND SETS UP THE
02:15:28.520 --> 02:15:30.121
PLACES THAT CAN COME FROM AND
02:15:30.188 --> 02:15:31.623
SETS UP THE GOALS FOR WHERE IT
02:15:31.690 --> 02:15:33.391
GOES. BUT THEN ON THE SPECIFICS,
02:15:33.458 --> 02:15:35.060
YOU MAKE THE DECISIONS IN THE
02:15:35.126 --> 02:15:37.395
MOMENT I NEED TO FOLLOW UP. WHAT
02:15:37.462 --> 02:15:38.530
DO YOU ENVISION ENVISIONED TO
02:15:38.597 --> 02:15:42.801
BE? THE MANNER IN WHICH YOU GET
02:15:42.868 --> 02:15:43.702
TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE HIGH
02:15:43.768 --> 02:15:44.803
ELECTRICITY BILLS. I'M TALKING
02:15:44.870 --> 02:15:46.171
ABOUT CENTRAL CALIFORNIA. 105
02:15:46.238 --> 02:15:50.275
DEGREES IN IN, UH RIGHT. I HAVE
02:15:50.342 --> 02:15:51.443
RATEPAYERS THAT ARE GOING CRAZY
02:15:51.510 --> 02:15:54.279
OVER THEIR BILLS. RIGHT. TELL ME
02:15:54.346 --> 02:15:56.248
, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO SAY TO
02:15:56.314 --> 02:15:59.551
THEM? HERE'S A CHECK. ARE THE
02:15:59.618 --> 02:16:01.186
UTILITIES GOING TO HAVE A LINE
02:16:01.253 --> 02:16:03.255
ITEM THAT REDUCES THE GOAL OF
02:16:03.321 --> 02:16:05.657
THE OF THE WORKING GROUP THAT WE
02:16:05.724 --> 02:16:07.125
HAD? AND THE DISCUSSIONS WE HAD
02:16:07.192 --> 02:16:10.328
WAS THAT IT HAD TO BE A MINIMUM.
02:16:10.395 --> 02:16:13.064
AH EFFORT FOR THE RATEPAYERS
02:16:13.131 --> 02:16:14.533
THAT YOU HOPED IT WOULD BE ON
02:16:14.599 --> 02:16:16.201
BILL OR SOMETHING THAT DIDN'T
02:16:16.268 --> 02:16:18.436
REQUIRE EFFORT FROM THEM THAT
02:16:18.503 --> 02:16:19.671
YOU WOULD MAKE A POLICY
02:16:19.738 --> 02:16:20.772
DECISION, AND IT WOULD SHOW UP
02:16:20.839 --> 02:16:22.974
ON THE BILLS THAT ONE THROUGH
02:16:23.041 --> 02:16:24.409
THE THROUGH THE ELECTRICITY
02:16:24.476 --> 02:16:26.278
PROVIDERS. YES. SO WHAT WE'RE
02:16:26.344 --> 02:16:31.383
GOING TO BE PAYING THEM TO
02:16:31.449 --> 02:16:34.319
REDUCE THE RATES. NO YOU REDUCE
02:16:34.386 --> 02:16:36.054
THE RATES AND THERE THE PAST.
02:16:36.121 --> 02:16:38.089
WELL, YOU'RE GIVING THE MONEY TO
02:16:38.156 --> 02:16:39.324
THEM, AND THEN THEY REDUCED IN
02:16:39.391 --> 02:16:41.126
THE PAST IT THROUGH TWO PATHS,
02:16:41.192 --> 02:16:42.127
RIGHT? OKAY? THANK YOU. THANK
02:16:42.193 --> 02:16:46.731
YOU, DOCTOR QUIRKE. UM HI.
02:16:46.798 --> 02:16:48.700
QUESTION THE NEED FOR SEPARATE
02:16:48.767 --> 02:16:51.269
AUTHORITY. UM WELL, FIRST OF
02:16:51.336 --> 02:16:52.837
ALL, A LOT OF GOOD THINGS IN THE
02:16:52.904 --> 02:16:54.072
BILL IN PARTICULAR SETTING THE
02:16:54.139 --> 02:16:55.907
INTERIM TARGETS, I THINK IS VERY
02:16:55.974 --> 02:16:57.842
IMPORTANT. UM SO MANY GOOD
02:16:57.909 --> 02:16:59.344
THINGS. I SAID, I JUST
02:16:59.411 --> 02:17:00.412
QUESTIONED THE NEED FOR THIS
02:17:00.478 --> 02:17:03.315
AUTHORITY. RIGHT NOW. THE C P U.
02:17:03.381 --> 02:17:09.220
C. AH WORKS WITH THE. INVESTOR
02:17:09.287 --> 02:17:09.988
OWNED UTILITIES, WHICH THEY CAN
02:17:10.055 --> 02:17:15.827
REGULATE. AND IT COMES UP WITH
02:17:15.894 --> 02:17:18.129
THE END, AND THESE INVESTORS ON
02:17:18.196 --> 02:17:19.197
UTILITY STILL DO ALL THE
02:17:19.264 --> 02:17:22.667
BILLING, EVEN IF A LOCAL. UH AH
02:17:22.734 --> 02:17:24.569
AGENCY NOW IS DOING THE POWER
02:17:24.636 --> 02:17:28.239
PURCHASING SO CAN ALL BE DONE.
02:17:28.306 --> 02:17:31.543
SO WHY SHIFT? THINGS LIKE A
02:17:31.610 --> 02:17:33.778
LIFELINE RATE, WHICH I THINK IS
02:17:33.845 --> 02:17:34.846
WHAT YOU'RE DOING, SAY
02:17:34.913 --> 02:17:36.348
ADMINISTRATION OF THE LIFELINE
02:17:36.414 --> 02:17:38.917
RATE AWAY FROM THE PUC IN THE
02:17:38.984 --> 02:17:40.018
UTILITIES INTO A SEPARATE
02:17:40.085 --> 02:17:41.853
AGENCY. OR YOU'RE MAKING THE
02:17:41.920 --> 02:17:45.557
PRESUMPTION THAT ALL UTILITIES
02:17:45.624 --> 02:17:46.658
OR INVEST AROUND UTILITY. I'M
02:17:46.725 --> 02:17:51.730
NOT OKAY. I'M JUST IN THE
02:17:51.796 --> 02:17:53.498
CHALLENGE. YOU BELIEVE THE PUC
02:17:53.565 --> 02:17:54.766
COULD PASS THROUGH TO THE
02:17:54.833 --> 02:17:56.601
PUBLICLY OWNED UTILITIES AS WELL
02:17:56.668 --> 02:17:57.769
THAT THEY'RE DOING IT NOW. ALSO,
02:17:57.836 --> 02:18:02.941
IT'S PAID FOR BY RATEPAYERS, SO
02:18:03.008 --> 02:18:04.309
THERE IS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF
02:18:04.376 --> 02:18:06.845
MONEY THAT GOES INTO IT. WASN'T
02:18:06.911 --> 02:18:09.080
CLEAR TO ME IF THE AUTHORITY
02:18:09.147 --> 02:18:10.782
WOULD BE ABLE TO GET THAT
02:18:10.849 --> 02:18:11.883
PAYMENT FROM RATEPAYERS TO DO,
02:18:11.950 --> 02:18:16.488
UM A YOU KNOW THAT THEY'D BE
02:18:16.554 --> 02:18:17.889
ABLE TO FUND A LIFELINE.
02:18:17.956 --> 02:18:21.092
AUTHORITY. FROM WHERE REPAIRS AS
02:18:21.159 --> 02:18:22.193
OPPOSED TO FROM THE GENERAL
02:18:22.260 --> 02:18:25.530
FUND. SCUSE ME A LIFELINE BIRTH
02:18:25.597 --> 02:18:27.198
RATE WELL, THAT WOULD REQUIRE
02:18:27.265 --> 02:18:29.467
DECISION MAKING OUTSIDE OF ALL
02:18:29.534 --> 02:18:31.503
THE GROUPS THAT WE'VE BEEN
02:18:31.569 --> 02:18:32.470
TALKING ABOUT. THE PUC WOULD
02:18:32.537 --> 02:18:34.706
HAVE TO DECIDE TO DO THAT, AND
02:18:34.773 --> 02:18:35.840
THEN THEY'D HAVE TO DECIDE THAT
02:18:35.907 --> 02:18:37.842
THEY WANT TO COORDINATE. WITH
02:18:37.909 --> 02:18:40.178
ANY OTHER AGENCY THAT SUCH AS
02:18:40.245 --> 02:18:41.346
THE ONE THAT SET UP IN THIS
02:18:41.413 --> 02:18:42.480
BILL, THERE ISN'T AN AUTHORITY
02:18:42.547 --> 02:18:44.949
IN THIS BILL. FOR THIS NEW
02:18:45.016 --> 02:18:46.985
AGENCY TO BE THE ONE TO MAKE THE
02:18:47.052 --> 02:18:48.319
DECISION YOU JUST DESCRIBED.
02:18:48.386 --> 02:18:50.555
OKAY, SO ALL RIGHT. THE OTHER
02:18:50.622 --> 02:18:52.323
THING IS, I'M VERY SKEPTICAL
02:18:52.390 --> 02:18:54.959
THAT ANY MONEY I MEAN, THESE
02:18:55.026 --> 02:18:56.127
LAST TWO YEARS HAVE BEEN
02:18:56.194 --> 02:18:57.128
AMAZING. WE'RE ALL VERY
02:18:57.195 --> 02:19:01.132
GRATEFUL. NOBODY HAS TO JUST TO
02:19:01.199 --> 02:19:05.336
pTO PASS A BUDGET. THAT'S GREAT.
02:19:05.403 --> 02:19:07.472
THAT WAS WHAT IT WAS LIKE WHEN
02:19:07.539 --> 02:19:08.440
YOU WERE HERE. DONE THAT. AND
02:19:08.506 --> 02:19:10.408
YOU WANT TO GO YOUR WHOLE LIFE
02:19:10.475 --> 02:19:11.543
WITHOUT KNOWING WHICH OF YOUR
02:19:11.609 --> 02:19:16.448
COLLEAGUES NOR SO MY CONCERN IS.
02:19:16.514 --> 02:19:18.983
YEAH WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF GOOD
02:19:19.050 --> 02:19:20.118
YEARS AND MAYBE SOME GENERAL
02:19:20.185 --> 02:19:21.986
FUND MONEY CAN BE PUT IN ALSO
02:19:22.053 --> 02:19:23.254
THE GREENHOUSE GAS REDUCTION
02:19:23.321 --> 02:19:26.291
FUND. I MEAN, THAT'S OVER
02:19:26.357 --> 02:19:28.259
SUBSCRIBED MANY TIMES. THERE ARE
02:19:28.326 --> 02:19:29.894
ALL SORTS OF GREAT IDEAS FOR
02:19:29.961 --> 02:19:31.696
THAT, INCLUDING WE'RE NOW USING
02:19:31.763 --> 02:19:34.399
IT TO, UH, TO ASSURE CLEAN WATER
02:19:34.466 --> 02:19:39.270
FOR PEOPLE. UM I JUST QUESTION
02:19:39.337 --> 02:19:40.739
WHETHER THERE WILL BE GENERAL
02:19:40.805 --> 02:19:42.273
FUND MONEY OR GREENHOUSE GAS
02:19:42.340 --> 02:19:44.342
REDUCTION, MONEY AND TOUGHER
02:19:44.409 --> 02:19:46.511
BUDGET YEARS TO FUND THE THIS
02:19:46.578 --> 02:19:50.181
BREAK TO CONSUMERS. WELL IF
02:19:50.248 --> 02:19:52.484
THERE ISN'T THERE'S NO HARM. UH
02:19:52.550 --> 02:19:54.753
SO THAT'S NOT GONNA STOP ME FROM
02:19:54.819 --> 02:19:55.487
VOTING FOR THE BILL. BUT I'M
02:19:55.553 --> 02:19:57.822
JUST GOING TO STATE THAT I'M
02:19:57.889 --> 02:19:58.923
VERY SKEPTICAL. THERE'LL BE
02:19:58.990 --> 02:19:59.991
MONEY. WELL THANK YOU. AND LET
02:20:00.058 --> 02:20:03.261
ME JUST COMMENT, WHICH IS THAT?
02:20:03.328 --> 02:20:04.696
EVERYTHING WE DO IN THIS
02:20:04.763 --> 02:20:06.531
COMMITTEE AND IN THE LEGISLATURE
02:20:06.598 --> 02:20:07.732
AND TOGETHER WITH THE GOVERNOR'S
02:20:07.799 --> 02:20:10.568
DISCRETIONARY ACT, AND I THINK
02:20:10.635 --> 02:20:12.003
WE WOULD BE PRAYING, PLACING
02:20:12.070 --> 02:20:13.838
THIS ON THE TABLE AS A PRIORITY
02:20:13.905 --> 02:20:16.808
IN A WAY. THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE
02:20:16.875 --> 02:20:18.409
CONSIDERED IN THAT PROCESS IN A
02:20:18.476 --> 02:20:19.644
WAY THAT IT'S NOT CONSIDERED
02:20:19.711 --> 02:20:21.913
RIGHT NOW, AND THAT IS THE BARE
02:20:21.980 --> 02:20:24.382
MINIMUM OF THE IMPORTANCE IN
02:20:24.449 --> 02:20:25.550
ADDITION TO THE FACT THAT I
02:20:25.617 --> 02:20:26.951
THINK IT'S A LOGICAL SOURCE,
02:20:27.018 --> 02:20:29.053
ALRIGHT, FINAL CONCERN I HAVE IS
02:20:29.120 --> 02:20:30.722
DEPARTMENT OF WHAT A RESOURCE IS
02:20:30.789 --> 02:20:32.257
THE LAST TIME THEY WERE GIVEN
02:20:32.323 --> 02:20:34.759
EXTRAORDINARY POWER. TO PURCHASE
02:20:34.826 --> 02:20:36.895
ENERGY. THEY SORT OF THOUGHT
02:20:36.961 --> 02:20:38.963
HIGH AND SOLD LOW AND WE HAD
02:20:39.030 --> 02:20:40.932
DEPTHS FOR YEARS TO PICK OFF. I
02:20:40.999 --> 02:20:42.600
THINK JUST A COUPLE OF YEARS
02:20:42.667 --> 02:20:44.235
AGO, THE FINAL DEBTS WERE PAID
02:20:44.302 --> 02:20:47.639
OFF. WHY DEPARTMENT OF WHAT A
02:20:47.705 --> 02:20:50.408
RESOURCE IS PROCURING FOR THE
02:20:50.475 --> 02:20:51.643
REST OF THE STATE? THAT'S WHAT I
02:20:51.709 --> 02:20:55.079
WAS TRYING TO END FIRST. I
02:20:55.146 --> 02:20:56.281
WASN'T HERE FOR THE RUNNING UP
02:20:56.347 --> 02:20:57.549
OF THE BILL, BUT IT WAS
02:20:57.615 --> 02:20:59.083
SECRETARY OF RESOURCES FOR THE
02:20:59.150 --> 02:21:00.852
PAYING OF THE BILL. SO I AM
02:21:00.919 --> 02:21:03.454
FAMILIAR WITH OR WHAT YOU SPEAK
02:21:03.521 --> 02:21:04.722
. UM THE PROCUREMENT PART IS
02:21:04.789 --> 02:21:07.392
WHAT WE EXPECT TO AMEND OUT.
02:21:07.458 --> 02:21:08.626
WATER SO THAT IT WILL RESOLVE
02:21:08.693 --> 02:21:11.996
THAT ISSUE. OH OKAY. THAT'S WHAT
02:21:12.063 --> 02:21:13.698
I WAS TRYING TO REFER TO.
02:21:13.765 --> 02:21:15.133
APPARENTLY INARTICULATELY IN THE
02:21:15.200 --> 02:21:17.502
I LOVE THE BILL HAS BEEN MOVED.
02:21:17.569 --> 02:21:23.308
PORSCHE MOVE. IN SECOND. CENTER.
02:21:23.374 --> 02:21:27.212
WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE? JUST
02:21:27.278 --> 02:21:29.380
THAT I REALLY APPRECIATE PEOPLE
02:21:29.447 --> 02:21:30.715
THAT TESTIFIED. I APPRECIATE THE
02:21:30.782 --> 02:21:33.551
DISCUSSION AND ON SOME OF THE
02:21:33.618 --> 02:21:36.387
POINTS WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK,
02:21:36.454 --> 02:21:38.823
AND I THINK WHEN WE MAKE THE
02:21:38.890 --> 02:21:40.058
AMENDMENTS IN THE NEXT
02:21:40.124 --> 02:21:40.825
COMMITTEE, THERE'S AN OUTSIDE
02:21:40.892 --> 02:21:41.626
CHANCE. WE HAVE ADDRESSED SOME
02:21:41.693 --> 02:21:43.595
OF THE ISSUES THAT THAT CAME UP
02:21:43.661 --> 02:21:44.662
HERE AND WE WOULD LIKE TO WORK
02:21:44.729 --> 02:21:46.631
WITH THOSE THAT HAD CONCERNS
02:21:46.698 --> 02:21:48.099
ABOUT THE FUNDING TESTIFIED THAT
02:21:48.166 --> 02:21:48.766
WE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT BEFORE
02:21:48.833 --> 02:21:53.104
TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THERE'S BY THE WAY, THE FUND
02:21:53.171 --> 02:21:55.039
THE SUGGESTION OF THIS FUND THE
02:21:55.106 --> 02:21:57.976
CLIMATE WORKING GROUP, AND YOU
02:21:58.042 --> 02:22:02.013
CAN ALL GROWN MET 22 THIS YEAR.
02:22:02.080 --> 02:22:03.848
12 SENATORS 22 TIMES IN THE
02:22:03.915 --> 02:22:05.984
FIRST NINE STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS.
02:22:06.050 --> 02:22:08.086
WE WORKED OUR WAY THROUGH ENERGY
02:22:08.152 --> 02:22:08.586
COMPANIES, BUSINESSES,
02:22:08.653 --> 02:22:09.587
ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS,
02:22:09.654 --> 02:22:11.556
ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE GROUPS OF
02:22:11.623 --> 02:22:13.491
LABOR, THE BUILDING TRADES BY
02:22:13.558 --> 02:22:15.226
THEMSELVES, AND WHEN WE MET WITH
02:22:15.293 --> 02:22:19.464
ONE OF THE TWO MEETINGS IN THE I
02:22:19.530 --> 02:22:21.466
THINK THE ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS
02:22:21.532 --> 02:22:24.269
THE IDEA OF UTILITY RIGHTS AND
02:22:24.335 --> 02:22:25.770
THE TRUST FUND AND EQUITY IS
02:22:25.837 --> 02:22:27.739
WHERE THAT CAME FROM THAT THAT
02:22:27.805 --> 02:22:29.507
IS WHERE IT WAS RAISED TO OUR
02:22:29.574 --> 02:22:31.342
ATTENTION. SO UH, WE WILL
02:22:31.409 --> 02:22:32.577
CONTINUE TO WORK ON SOME OF
02:22:32.644 --> 02:22:34.579
THESE ISSUES. I THINK IT IS
02:22:34.646 --> 02:22:36.180
COMING TOGETHER. QUITE WELL, I
02:22:36.247 --> 02:22:36.748
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR I
02:22:36.814 --> 02:22:37.649
THANK YOU, WOLF. UM THE
02:22:37.715 --> 02:22:39.951
PROMOTION IN A SECOND. SHE SHE
02:22:40.018 --> 02:22:43.955
ATE THE INPUT HERE, BROKER ITEM
02:22:44.022 --> 02:22:46.190
NUMBER 12 SB 10 20. THE MOTION
02:22:46.257 --> 02:22:48.860
IS DUE PASS TO NATURAL RESOURCES
02:22:48.927 --> 02:22:49.394
. EDUARDO GARCIA, EDUARDO
02:22:49.460 --> 02:22:52.063
GARCIA, I PATERSON PATERSON NOT
02:22:52.130 --> 02:22:53.965
VOTING BY BAUER-KAHAN.
02:22:54.032 --> 02:23:00.271
BAUER-KAHAN I. KOREA. SHEN. CHEN
02:23:00.338 --> 02:23:03.308
NOT VOTING CUNNINGHAM PHÊN. FUNG
02:23:03.374 --> 02:23:05.476
I, CRISTINA GARCIA. CRISTINA
02:23:05.543 --> 02:23:08.212
GARCIA, I HOLDEN MAZE. MAY'S
02:23:08.279 --> 02:23:13.251
AYE. MURATSUCHI. QUIRK. QUIRK I
02:23:13.318 --> 02:23:20.325
RAISE SANTIAGO. TING. KOREA.
02:23:20.391 --> 02:23:25.029
CARILLO? AYE. THAT'S SEVEN.
02:23:25.096 --> 02:23:28.599
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEVER WAS.
02:23:28.666 --> 02:23:43.348
HAVE YOU DUMPED TWO BILLS?
02:23:43.414 --> 02:23:55.126
SB 7 33 CENTER. PFLEGER'S. THANK
02:23:55.193 --> 02:23:56.828
YOU VERY MUCH. MR MR CHAIRMAN.
02:23:56.894 --> 02:23:58.896
MEMBERS WANT TO I WANT TO THANK
02:23:58.963 --> 02:24:00.331
THE COMMITTEE FOR WORKING WITH
02:24:00.398 --> 02:24:01.866
MY OFFICE AND THE SPONSOR WANT
02:24:01.933 --> 02:24:03.434
TO ACCEPT THE PROPOSED COMMITTEE
02:24:03.501 --> 02:24:05.703
AMENDMENTS? SB 7 33 IS AN EFFORT
02:24:05.770 --> 02:24:08.206
TO HELP JUMP START RENEWABLE
02:24:08.272 --> 02:24:10.575
HYDROGEN PRODUCTION TO HELP THE
02:24:10.641 --> 02:24:12.110
STATE ACHIEVE OUR AMBITIOUS
02:24:12.176 --> 02:24:14.912
CLIMATE AND CLEAN ENERGY GOALS.
02:24:14.979 --> 02:24:16.581
HYDROGEN IS SUPPOSED TO BECOME
02:24:16.647 --> 02:24:17.648
AN ESSENTIAL COMPONENT OF THE
02:24:17.715 --> 02:24:20.051
LOW CARBON ENERGY ECONOMY OF THE
02:24:20.118 --> 02:24:21.786
FUTURE IN CALIFORNIA AND OTHER
02:24:21.853 --> 02:24:23.454
PARTS OF THE WORLD, HYDROGEN
02:24:23.521 --> 02:24:25.490
WILL BE INTEGRAL TO ACHIEVING
02:24:25.556 --> 02:24:27.725
ENERGY DECARBONIZATION AT SCALE
02:24:27.792 --> 02:24:28.826
, PARTICULARLY TO ADDRESS THE
02:24:28.893 --> 02:24:32.463
HARD TO ABATE SECTORS. HYDROGEN
02:24:32.530 --> 02:24:34.265
IS AN ENTIRELY COMPETENT CARBON
02:24:34.332 --> 02:24:37.301
FREE FUEL, ONE THAT NEEDS A
02:24:37.368 --> 02:24:39.470
POLICY AND ECONOMIC YOUNGSTER
02:24:39.537 --> 02:24:42.040
JUMPSTART JUST AS CALIFORNIA HAS
02:24:42.106 --> 02:24:43.041
DONE WITH THE RENEWABLE
02:24:43.107 --> 02:24:44.609
PROCUREMENT STANDARDS.
02:24:44.675 --> 02:24:46.244
PROCUREMENT IS NECESSARY TO
02:24:46.310 --> 02:24:48.346
BRING RENEWABLE HYDROGEN TO
02:24:48.413 --> 02:24:50.381
SCALE AND HELP TO REDUCE ITS
02:24:50.448 --> 02:24:51.883
COST IN TIME TO ACHIEVE OUR
02:24:51.949 --> 02:24:54.252
STATE'S CLIMATE AND ENERGY GOALS
02:24:54.318 --> 02:24:56.521
. SB 77 33 BUILDS ON THE EFFORTS
02:24:56.587 --> 02:25:00.858
OF SB 14 40. WHICH REQUIRED THE
02:25:00.925 --> 02:25:02.994
CPSC TO ESTABLISH A PROCUREMENT
02:25:03.061 --> 02:25:05.696
STANDARD FOR BIO METHANE. 7 33
02:25:05.763 --> 02:25:07.532
AUTHORIZES THE CPC EXPANDED BIO
02:25:07.598 --> 02:25:09.267
METHANE PER PROCUREMENT STANDARD
02:25:09.333 --> 02:25:09.934
TO ALSO INCLUDE RENEWABLE
02:25:10.001 --> 02:25:13.371
HYDROGEN. WITH THE COMMITTEE
02:25:13.438 --> 02:25:14.238
AMENDMENT DISCOUNTS
02:25:14.305 --> 02:25:16.474
CONSIDERATION CAN BE DONE AFTER
02:25:16.541 --> 02:25:18.576
THE CPUC FINDS THE TARGETS AND
02:25:18.643 --> 02:25:20.645
GOALS TO BE COST EFFECTIVE MEANS
02:25:20.711 --> 02:25:21.746
TO ACHIEVE ARE SHORT LIVED
02:25:21.813 --> 02:25:23.815
CLIMATE POLLUTANTS. AND
02:25:23.881 --> 02:25:25.249
GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSION
02:25:25.316 --> 02:25:27.452
REDUCTION GOALS AS WELL AS
02:25:27.518 --> 02:25:29.520
INSURANCE THAT THE C P U. C HAS
02:25:29.587 --> 02:25:30.721
A SAFETY STANDARDS FOR
02:25:30.788 --> 02:25:32.290
PIPELINES. TRANSPORTING THE
02:25:32.356 --> 02:25:34.358
RENEWABLE HYDROGEN. TODAY WE
02:25:34.425 --> 02:25:36.160
HAVE YURI FRIEDMAN. HE'S A
02:25:36.227 --> 02:25:36.861
SENIOR DIRECTOR OF BUSINESS
02:25:36.928 --> 02:25:38.129
DEVELOPMENT WITH THE SOUTHERN
02:25:38.196 --> 02:25:40.698
CALIFORNIA GAS COMPANY TO MAKE
02:25:40.765 --> 02:25:41.966
SOME ADDITIONAL COMMENTS. OKAY,
02:25:42.033 --> 02:25:46.471
PLEASE. MR CHAIRMAN, COMMITTEE
02:25:46.537 --> 02:25:47.505
MEMBERS. THANK YOU FOR THE
02:25:47.572 --> 02:25:50.408
OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE. AND TO
02:25:50.475 --> 02:25:53.678
SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF HIS B 7 33.
02:25:53.744 --> 02:25:55.446
I'M YURI FRIEDMAN, SENIOR
02:25:55.513 --> 02:25:56.614
DIRECTOR OF BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT
02:25:56.681 --> 02:25:57.482
AND SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA GAS
02:25:57.548 --> 02:26:01.252
COMPANY. THE GOAL OF THIS BILL
02:26:01.319 --> 02:26:04.555
IS TO GROW AMOUNTS OF RENEWABLE
02:26:04.622 --> 02:26:05.623
HYDROGEN, AND THROUGH THAT THE
02:26:05.690 --> 02:26:09.527
DECREASE ITS PRICE. CLEAN
02:26:09.594 --> 02:26:10.528
MOLECULES ARE CENTRAL TO
02:26:10.595 --> 02:26:12.797
SUCCESSFUL ENERGY TRANSITION.
02:26:12.864 --> 02:26:14.365
AND THEY ALLOW US TEXACO THIS
02:26:14.432 --> 02:26:16.634
TRANSITION WITHOUT COMPROMISING
02:26:16.701 --> 02:26:17.735
RELIABILITY AND RESILIENCY OF
02:26:17.802 --> 02:26:21.739
POWER AND ENERGY SUPPLY. CLEAN
02:26:21.806 --> 02:26:24.175
HYDROGEN IS AMONG THE MOST
02:26:24.242 --> 02:26:25.276
IMPORTANT ELEMENT OF THE CLEAN
02:26:25.343 --> 02:26:28.446
MOLECULE MIX. IT IS REMARKABLE,
02:26:28.513 --> 02:26:29.313
COMPLEMENTARY TO RENEWABLES AND
02:26:29.380 --> 02:26:32.617
THE SUPPLY SIDE. AND IT CAN
02:26:32.683 --> 02:26:34.685
REACH ACROSS THE WAY A BROAD
02:26:34.752 --> 02:26:35.887
RANGE OF END USERS ON THE DEMAND
02:26:35.953 --> 02:26:39.123
SIDE. TILL THE PROCUREMENT
02:26:39.190 --> 02:26:41.559
MANDATE IS VERY SIMILAR AS A
02:26:41.626 --> 02:26:43.261
FRAMEWORK TO RENEWABLE PORTFOLIO
02:26:43.327 --> 02:26:45.897
STANDARD THAT HAS BEEN SO
02:26:45.963 --> 02:26:48.266
SUCCESSFUL IN CLINTON ELECTRONS.
02:26:48.332 --> 02:26:50.568
AND WE BELIEVE NOW IT IS TIME TO
02:26:50.635 --> 02:26:51.435
APPLY THIS APPROACH TO CLEAN
02:26:51.502 --> 02:26:52.904
MOLECULES TO ACHIEVE EQUAL
02:26:52.970 --> 02:26:55.506
DEGREE OF SUCCESS. FOR THIS
02:26:55.573 --> 02:26:57.308
REASONS WE ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT
02:26:57.375 --> 02:27:00.011
TODAY. THINK IT ONCE AGAIN FOR
02:27:00.077 --> 02:27:01.812
THE OPPORTUNITY, AND THAT WOULD
02:27:01.879 --> 02:27:04.315
BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
02:27:04.382 --> 02:27:05.483
ALL RIGHT, DO YOU ANY OTHER
02:27:05.550 --> 02:27:11.122
WITNESS? PRIMARY WITNESSES. NO.
02:27:11.189 --> 02:27:12.123
ANY WITNESSES, PRIMARY WITNESSES
02:27:12.190 --> 02:27:24.268
IN OPPOSITION.
02:27:24.335 --> 02:27:25.570
ITS CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS,
02:27:25.636 --> 02:27:27.838
MICHAEL BROKE A DOOR ON BEHALF
02:27:27.905 --> 02:27:28.973
OF THE EGG ENERGY CONSUMERS
02:27:29.040 --> 02:27:29.907
ASSOCIATION. LET ME SAY WE'RE
02:27:29.974 --> 02:27:33.311
HERE AND UM IN SUPPORT OF THE
02:27:33.377 --> 02:27:35.012
ROLE. HYDROGEN IS GOING TO PLAY
02:27:35.079 --> 02:27:36.714
IN THE FUTURE IN CALIFORNIA, BUT
02:27:36.781 --> 02:27:38.649
FEEL THAT THIS BILL IS EXTREMELY
02:27:38.716 --> 02:27:40.318
EXTREMELY PREMATURE TO BE MOVING
02:27:40.384 --> 02:27:41.319
TOWARDS PROCUREMENT AT THIS
02:27:41.385 --> 02:27:43.821
TIME. PUBLIC UTILITIES
02:27:43.888 --> 02:27:44.889
COMMISSION HAS ALREADY OPENED TO
02:27:44.956 --> 02:27:47.625
PROCEEDING. TO ADDRESS THESE
02:27:47.692 --> 02:27:49.093
ISSUES AND THE HEALTH AND
02:27:49.160 --> 02:27:50.061
SAFETY, LEGITIMATE HEALTH AND
02:27:50.127 --> 02:27:51.195
SAFETY CONCERNS ASSOCIATED WITH
02:27:51.262 --> 02:27:54.332
PUDDING. HYDROGEN WHICH IS
02:27:54.398 --> 02:27:56.601
HIGHLY LEAKED, THROWN INTO A
02:27:56.667 --> 02:27:57.835
SYSTEM LIKE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
02:27:57.902 --> 02:28:00.538
GASSES THAT'S AGING. ALREADY
02:28:00.605 --> 02:28:01.572
BRITTLE AND IT'S GOING TO GET%
02:28:01.639 --> 02:28:03.040
MADE MORE BRITTLE BY THE
02:28:03.107 --> 02:28:04.475
INJECTION OF HYDROGEN RELEASED.
02:28:04.542 --> 02:28:06.677
THAT'S A CONCERN LEGITIMATE ONE.
02:28:06.744 --> 02:28:08.279
THE ENERGY COMMISSION JUST THREE
02:28:08.346 --> 02:28:09.880
WEEKS AGO OPENED ANOTHER
02:28:09.947 --> 02:28:10.982
PROCEEDING TO LOOK AT
02:28:11.048 --> 02:28:13.251
DECARBONIZATION OF THE PIPELINE.
02:28:13.317 --> 02:28:14.452
JUST YESTERDAY THEY HELD ANOTHER
02:28:14.518 --> 02:28:18.122
WORKSHOP. SPECIFICALLY ON
02:28:18.189 --> 02:28:20.291
HYDROGEN AND THE ROLE IT'S GOING
02:28:20.358 --> 02:28:22.460
TO PLAY IN THE FUTURE, SO WE ALL
02:28:22.526 --> 02:28:23.427
HAVE TO ASK OURSELVES IN THE
02:28:23.494 --> 02:28:24.929
RATEPAYER COMMUNITY IN THE
02:28:24.996 --> 02:28:25.696
ENVIRONMENTAL COMMUNITY AND THE
02:28:25.763 --> 02:28:26.931
OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT ARE
02:28:26.998 --> 02:28:30.401
OPPOSING THIS BILL. WHY THIS
02:28:30.468 --> 02:28:33.137
CRITICAL NEED TO AMEND THE BILL
02:28:33.204 --> 02:28:34.739
AT THIS LATE STAGE IN THE
02:28:34.805 --> 02:28:35.806
PROCESS TO TRY AND JAM
02:28:35.873 --> 02:28:38.609
PROCUREMENT PROGRAM. WHEN WE'RE
02:28:38.676 --> 02:28:40.144
CLEARLY MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION
02:28:40.211 --> 02:28:42.446
, BUT WE'RE MOVING APPROPRIATELY
02:28:42.513 --> 02:28:43.447
CAUTIOUSLY TO PROTECT PUBLIC
02:28:43.514 --> 02:28:46.651
HEALTH. AND WHILE I APPRECIATE
02:28:46.717 --> 02:28:49.053
THE COMMENTS BY THE GAS COMPANY
02:28:49.120 --> 02:28:51.822
TO LOWER THE COST OF HYDROGEN
02:28:51.889 --> 02:28:53.124
THAT DOES NEEDTO HAPPEN. IT'S
02:28:53.190 --> 02:28:54.892
EXTREMELY EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE.
02:28:54.959 --> 02:28:56.394
BUT BY STARTING PROCUREMENT
02:28:56.460 --> 02:28:59.030
TODAY, ALL WE'RE GOING TO DO IS
02:28:59.096 --> 02:29:01.098
LOCK IN THAT EXTREMELY EXTREMELY
02:29:01.165 --> 02:29:02.166
EXPENSIVE GAS. WE WERE VERY
02:29:02.233 --> 02:29:06.270
SUPPORTIVE OF MR WAYS IS SP 14
02:29:06.337 --> 02:29:08.239
40 THAT DEALS WITH BIO METHANE
02:29:08.306 --> 02:29:09.273
PROCUREMENT COMMISSION JUST
02:29:09.340 --> 02:29:09.874
CONCLUDED THAT PROCEEDING WE
02:29:09.940 --> 02:29:17.214
HAVEN'T YET. PROCURED ONE. BIT
02:29:17.281 --> 02:29:18.916
OF NATURAL GAS, RENEWABLE
02:29:18.983 --> 02:29:20.451
NATURAL GAS INTO THAT PROGRAM.
02:29:20.518 --> 02:29:22.386
IT'S GOING TO BE EXTREMELY
02:29:22.453 --> 02:29:24.488
EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE, PROBABLY 10
02:29:24.555 --> 02:29:25.656
TIMES AS EXPENSIVE AS FOSSIL
02:29:25.723 --> 02:29:28.926
NATURAL GAS. IT'S GOING TO DRIVE
02:29:28.993 --> 02:29:30.828
RATES FOR NATURAL GAS HIGHER AND
02:29:30.895 --> 02:29:32.430
HIGHER IN THE STATE AT A TIME
02:29:32.496 --> 02:29:33.864
WHEN INFLATION IS ALREADY
02:29:33.931 --> 02:29:35.666
KILLING MANY BUSINESSES IN THE
02:29:35.733 --> 02:29:38.069
STATE. SO WITH THOSE CONCERNS IN
02:29:38.135 --> 02:29:39.303
MIND, WE RESPECTFULLY MUST
02:29:39.370 --> 02:29:41.605
OPPOSE THE BILL AT THIS TIME. WE
02:29:41.672 --> 02:29:43.674
THINK HYDROGEN HAS A ROLE IT'S
02:29:43.741 --> 02:29:44.508
BEING ADDRESSED APPROPRIATELY
02:29:44.575 --> 02:29:46.344
AND VARIOUS AGENCIES IN THE
02:29:46.410 --> 02:29:48.179
STATE THAT'S THE APPROPRIATE
02:29:48.245 --> 02:29:50.114
STEPS AT THIS TIME. BUT DRIVING
02:29:50.181 --> 02:29:51.315
TO PROCUREMENT IS ONLY IN THE
02:29:51.382 --> 02:29:54.352
INTERESTS OF A DESPERATE GAS
02:29:54.418 --> 02:29:56.420
COMPANY AND THEIR INVESTORS TO
02:29:56.487 --> 02:29:58.189
DO SOMETHING WITH THEIR PIPELINE
02:29:58.255 --> 02:30:00.791
. THANK YOU. THANK YOU DON'T
02:30:00.858 --> 02:30:01.592
HAVE ANY OTHER REGISTERED
02:30:01.659 --> 02:30:02.493
PRIMARY WITNESSES AND
02:30:02.560 --> 02:30:05.463
OPPOSITION. I'M GONNA ASK YOU
02:30:05.529 --> 02:30:07.431
FOLKS IN THE ROOM, WANT TO SPEAK
02:30:07.498 --> 02:30:12.470
IN SUPPORT? CASE YOU KNOW ONE
02:30:12.536 --> 02:30:14.305
ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK IN
02:30:14.372 --> 02:30:17.074
OPPOSITION? GOOD AFTERNOON,
02:30:17.141 --> 02:30:18.676
DANIEL BROWN ON BEHALF OF SIERRA
02:30:18.743 --> 02:30:20.277
CLUB, CALIFORNIA. WE APPRECIATE
02:30:20.344 --> 02:30:21.746
THE COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS ON THE
02:30:21.812 --> 02:30:25.249
BILL, BUT WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF
02:30:25.316 --> 02:30:26.417
CONCERNS WITH THE DEFINITION OF
02:30:26.484 --> 02:30:27.718
RENEWABLE HYDROGEN. AH AND WOULD
02:30:27.785 --> 02:30:28.853
STILL LIKE TO SEE THOSE
02:30:28.919 --> 02:30:33.290
RESOLVED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
02:30:33.357 --> 02:30:34.792
HELLO RYAN MCCARTHY ON BEHALF OF
02:30:34.859 --> 02:30:36.360
THEIR PRODUCTS. UM THERE'S AN
02:30:36.427 --> 02:30:38.396
OPPOSED UNLESS AMENDED POSITION
02:30:38.462 --> 02:30:40.464
ON THE BILL. I WANT TO MAKE SURE
02:30:40.531 --> 02:30:41.532
THAT THERE'S A COMPETITIVE
02:30:41.599 --> 02:30:42.066
MARKETPLACE FOR RENEWABLE
02:30:42.133 --> 02:30:46.270
HYDROGEN CREATED HERE. THANKS.
02:30:46.337 --> 02:30:47.505
YOU MARIAN BERGERSEN WITH
02:30:47.571 --> 02:30:48.906
NATURAL RESOURCES DEFENSE
02:30:48.973 --> 02:30:50.408
COUNCIL, WHERE AN OPPOSITION
02:30:50.474 --> 02:30:51.575
WOULD PARTICULARLY LIKE TO SEE
02:30:51.642 --> 02:30:53.043
THE RENEWABLE DEFINITION TAKEN
02:30:53.110 --> 02:30:54.378
OUT AND DEALT WITH THROUGH THE
02:30:54.445 --> 02:30:56.313
IS A PROPOSED IN 10 75 AND
02:30:56.380 --> 02:31:00.284
ANOTHER PLACES. THANK YOU. MR
02:31:00.351 --> 02:31:01.585
CHAIR MARK FINSTER MAKER ON
02:31:01.652 --> 02:31:03.320
BEHALF OF EARTH, JUSTICE AND
02:31:03.387 --> 02:31:03.888
RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION. THANK
02:31:03.954 --> 02:31:06.824
YOU. SEE NO ONE ELSE IN THE ROOM
02:31:06.891 --> 02:31:14.899
WILL ASK THE MODERATOR TO PLEASE. GET UH CALLERS ON SB 7 33
02:31:14.965 --> 02:31:19.770
OPPOSITION OR SUPPORT MODERATOR.
02:31:19.837 --> 02:31:21.338
FOR THOSE WHO WISH TO SPEAK AND
02:31:21.405 --> 02:31:22.673
SUPPORT OUR OPPOSITION TO THIS
02:31:22.740 --> 02:31:26.210
BILL, PLEASE PRESS 10. WHEN YOU
02:31:26.277 --> 02:31:33.017
GO TO LINE 90. MR CHAIR AND
02:31:33.083 --> 02:31:34.218
MEMBERS, CHRIS MILLER ON BEHALF
02:31:34.285 --> 02:31:36.053
OF OVER ON FUELS AND SUPPORTED
02:31:36.120 --> 02:31:41.759
THE MEASURE. 94. THIS IS
02:31:41.826 --> 02:31:43.027
SANTIAGO RODRIGUEZ WITH
02:31:43.093 --> 02:31:44.595
CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL VOTERS
02:31:44.662 --> 02:31:46.564
WERE OPPOSED TO THE BILL AND
02:31:46.630 --> 02:31:47.665
PRINT. WE APPRECIATE THE
02:31:47.731 --> 02:31:48.966
AMENDMENTS, BUT WE STILL HAVE
02:31:49.033 --> 02:31:50.100
CONCERNS ABOUT THE DEFINITION OF
02:31:50.167 --> 02:31:54.905
RENEWABLE HEADSTONE. LINE 95.
02:31:54.972 --> 02:31:55.773
GOOD AFTERNOON MEMBERS. ROB
02:31:55.840 --> 02:31:56.907
SPIEGEL CM TO AN OPPOSITION.
02:31:56.974 --> 02:32:04.548
THANK YOU. LINE NINE. JANET COX
02:32:04.615 --> 02:32:05.749
FOR 3 50 SILICON VALLEY IN
02:32:05.816 --> 02:32:06.851
OPPOSITION TO THE BILL. THANK
02:32:06.917 --> 02:32:14.658
YOU. BLIND 45. 20 REYNOLDS FROM
02:32:14.725 --> 02:32:16.627
CALIFORNIA ADVISORS ON BEHALF OF
02:32:16.694 --> 02:32:17.628
THE BIOENERGY ASSOCIATION OF
02:32:17.695 --> 02:32:25.503
CALIFORNIA AND SUPPORT LINE 52.
02:32:25.569 --> 02:32:27.071
JUST TO BE ON BEHALF OF THE
02:32:27.137 --> 02:32:28.572
UTILITY REFORM NETWORK,
02:32:28.639 --> 02:32:31.075
CURRENTLY REVIEWED IN
02:32:31.141 --> 02:32:31.709
OPPOSITION, CURRENTLY REVIEWING
02:32:31.775 --> 02:32:33.143
THE AMENDMENT IDENTIFIED IN
02:32:33.210 --> 02:32:35.112
ANALYSIS. WE DON'T THINK THEY
02:32:35.179 --> 02:32:36.180
ADDRESS OUR CONCERNS, BUT WE
02:32:36.247 --> 02:32:43.821
WILL REVEAL THANK YOU. BLIND 21.
02:32:43.888 --> 02:32:49.059
FIND 21. YOUR LINE IS NOW OPEN.
02:32:49.126 --> 02:32:50.794
YES THANK YOU. SHARON GREENE,
02:32:50.861 --> 02:32:51.929
LOS ANGELES COUNTY SANITATION
02:32:51.996 --> 02:32:57.902
DISTRICTS IN SUPPORT. LINE 80.
02:32:57.968 --> 02:32:59.470
YES RYAN KENNY, WITH CLEAN
02:32:59.537 --> 02:33:00.971
ENERGY, DROPPING OUR POSITION OF
02:33:01.038 --> 02:33:02.773
OPPOSING LESS AMENDED TO NEUTRAL
02:33:02.840 --> 02:33:03.941
. WE THINK THE OFFICE FOR
02:33:04.008 --> 02:33:05.743
WORKING WITH US TO ADDRESS OUR
02:33:05.809 --> 02:33:12.750
CONCERNS. LINE 96. GOOD
02:33:12.816 --> 02:33:14.084
AFTERNOON, MR TARYN MEMBERS.
02:33:14.151 --> 02:33:15.252
TRICIA GEHRINGER WITH
02:33:15.319 --> 02:33:15.753
AGRICULTURAL COUNCIL OF
02:33:15.819 --> 02:33:23.060
CALIFORNIA, ALSO IN OPPOSITION.
02:33:23.127 --> 02:33:24.461
AND MR CHAIR. THERE IS NO ONE
02:33:24.528 --> 02:33:27.131
ELSE TO SIGNAL THAT THEY WISH TO
02:33:27.197 --> 02:33:28.332
SPEAK. THANK YOU. I'M GONNA
02:33:28.399 --> 02:33:30.901
BRING THE CONVERSATION TO DIET.
02:33:30.968 --> 02:33:34.004
YEAH JUST TO ADDRESS. UH SOME OF
02:33:34.071 --> 02:33:37.708
THE OPPOSITION. I MEAN, THE WAY
02:33:37.775 --> 02:33:39.243
THE BILLS WRITTEN. NOW IT'S
02:33:39.310 --> 02:33:41.045
SIMPLY IS ASKING FOR IT'S NOT
02:33:41.111 --> 02:33:42.112
MANDATING CERTAIN AMOUNT OF
02:33:42.179 --> 02:33:45.416
HYDROGEN. IT'S ASKING THE
02:33:45.482 --> 02:33:47.651
COMMISSION TO CONSIDER IT WITH
02:33:47.718 --> 02:33:50.154
EITHER A CURRENT STUDY OR A NEW
02:33:50.220 --> 02:33:52.156
STUDY. THAT COULD CERTAINLY WHAT
02:33:52.222 --> 02:33:54.792
WE'RE TELLING. BY PASSING THIS
02:33:54.858 --> 02:33:57.394
WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS THAT AND I
02:33:57.461 --> 02:33:59.763
HOPE MY COLLEAGUES AGREE WITH ME
02:33:59.830 --> 02:34:01.031
THAT WE THINK THERE SHOULD BE AN
02:34:01.098 --> 02:34:02.800
EMPHASIS ON HYDROGEN. AND IN
02:34:02.866 --> 02:34:06.570
THAT SENSE, IT'S TRYING TO TELL
02:34:06.637 --> 02:34:08.672
THE COMMISSIONERS THAT THE
02:34:08.739 --> 02:34:10.307
PEOPLE THAT THAT US WHO
02:34:10.374 --> 02:34:12.643
REPRESENTS SO MANY VOTERS THINK
02:34:12.710 --> 02:34:13.777
THIS IS IMPORTANT, AND I THINK
02:34:13.844 --> 02:34:15.980
THIS IS AN IMPORTANT THING. FOR
02:34:16.046 --> 02:34:17.781
THE COMMISSION TO KNOW. AND SO
02:34:17.848 --> 02:34:20.551
I'M IN FULL SUPPORT.
02:34:20.618 --> 02:34:21.652
PARTICULARLY AS AS YOU'VE TAKEN
02:34:21.719 --> 02:34:25.155
THESE AMENDMENTS. HELLO ALSO SAY
02:34:25.222 --> 02:34:28.325
AROUND THE 19 NINETIES, AND EVEN
02:34:28.392 --> 02:34:30.094
EARLIER WHEN WE WERE A PIONEER
02:34:30.160 --> 02:34:34.198
AND GETTING WIND AND UM AND
02:34:34.264 --> 02:34:35.532
SOLAR AND PURCHASING IT. LARGE
02:34:35.599 --> 02:34:38.769
PRICES. THERE IS GOING TO BE AN
02:34:38.836 --> 02:34:40.604
APPROPRIATE TIME TO DO THAT THE
02:34:40.671 --> 02:34:41.605
COMMISSION TO DECIDE WHETHER
02:34:41.672 --> 02:34:44.241
THAT'S NOW OR NOT. UM THE FINAL
02:34:44.308 --> 02:34:45.576
THING IS IN TERMS OF BIOFUEL, SO
02:34:45.643 --> 02:34:49.079
NUMBER OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL,
02:34:49.146 --> 02:34:50.648
ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE COMMITTEES
02:34:50.714 --> 02:34:51.715
. OUR COMMUNITIES ARE CONCERNED
02:34:51.782 --> 02:34:53.717
ABOUT THE BIOFUELS. LOOK AS LONG
02:34:53.784 --> 02:34:56.687
AS WE'RE EATING MEAT. THERE'S
02:34:56.754 --> 02:35:00.024
GOT TO BE REFUSED FROM ANIMALS.
02:35:00.090 --> 02:35:03.727
AND YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT LIKE THEY
02:35:03.794 --> 02:35:05.462
DISAPPEAR IF WE DON'T HAVE
02:35:05.529 --> 02:35:08.298
BIOFUELS BY HAVING BIOFUELS, YOU
02:35:08.365 --> 02:35:12.603
HAVE A FINANCIAL INCENTIVE. TO
02:35:12.670 --> 02:35:14.772
USE THAT TO USE THAT METHANE TO
02:35:14.838 --> 02:35:16.173
COLLECT IT AS OPPOSED TO PUTTING
02:35:16.240 --> 02:35:18.809
IT IN THE ATMOSPHERE. SO I DON'T
02:35:18.876 --> 02:35:20.778
UNDERSTAND FULLY WHY THEY'RE
02:35:20.844 --> 02:35:21.812
OPPOSED. PERHAPS THEY CAN
02:35:21.879 --> 02:35:24.048
EXPLAIN IT TO ME. BUT IT DOESN'T
02:35:24.114 --> 02:35:30.921
MAKE A LOT OF SENSE TO ME. SO I
02:35:30.988 --> 02:35:31.955
GUESS I'M A FOLLOW UP QUESTION
02:35:32.022 --> 02:35:33.624
TO WHAT MY COLLEAGUE JUST SAID.
02:35:33.691 --> 02:35:34.892
I GUESS MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT
02:35:34.958 --> 02:35:37.161
BY DEFINING THESE HYDROGEN XYZ,
02:35:37.227 --> 02:35:38.262
RENEWABLE. THEY THEN BECOME
02:35:38.328 --> 02:35:40.764
ELIGIBLE TO BE TO QUALIFY THE
02:35:40.831 --> 02:35:42.533
UNDER THE RPS STANDARD. ISN'T
02:35:42.599 --> 02:35:44.201
THAT RIGHT? NO, THAT'S NOT.
02:35:44.268 --> 02:35:46.070
THAT'S WHAT I READ THE ANALYSIS
02:35:46.136 --> 02:35:48.338
SÜ. OKAY. CAN SOMEBODY HELP ME
02:35:48.405 --> 02:35:49.373
UNDERSTAND THAT? WHO'S WHO'S
02:35:49.440 --> 02:35:51.642
BEST? ARE WE ON THE OTHER BUT
02:35:51.709 --> 02:35:53.410
WAY WHICH BILL AROUND? THAT IS
02:35:53.477 --> 02:35:57.948
THE BILL. MAYBE I'M LOOKING
02:35:58.015 --> 02:36:00.417
THROWING AN OUTFIT. OKAY. COME
02:36:00.484 --> 02:36:06.890
BACK TO ME. YES. WHICH PILLOW WE
02:36:06.957 --> 02:36:08.959
WERE DISCUSSING. 7 33, OKAY? YES
02:36:09.026 --> 02:36:11.462
SO, YES. SO CAN SOMEONE. YES I'M
02:36:11.528 --> 02:36:12.629
READING THE RIGHT ANALYSIS. SO
02:36:12.696 --> 02:36:13.697
CORRECT ME. SOMEBODY EXPLAIN
02:36:13.764 --> 02:36:14.732
THIS TO ME. WE'RE DEFINING
02:36:14.798 --> 02:36:16.934
RENEWABLE HYDROGEN. CORRECT
02:36:17.000 --> 02:36:18.836
SMELL. OKAY. THANK YOU. RIGHT
02:36:18.902 --> 02:36:20.871
BELL. YOU ARE CORRECT AND THANK
02:36:20.938 --> 02:36:22.940
YOU ABOUT DEFINING RENEWABLE
02:36:23.006 --> 02:36:24.475
HYDROGEN, PERHAPS MY REFERENCE
02:36:24.541 --> 02:36:25.375
TO RENEWABLE PORTFOLIO STANDARD
02:36:25.442 --> 02:36:28.779
WAS A BIT CONFUSING. WHAT I
02:36:28.846 --> 02:36:30.347
MEANT TO SAY IS THAT JUST LIKE
02:36:30.414 --> 02:36:31.415
THE RENEWABLE PORTFOLIO STANDARD
02:36:31.482 --> 02:36:34.284
FRAMEWORK MANDATED ELECTRIC
02:36:34.351 --> 02:36:35.285
UTILITIES TO BUY RENEWABLE
02:36:35.352 --> 02:36:38.722
POWER. AND THROUGH THAT DEMAND
02:36:38.789 --> 02:36:41.125
DROVE UP THE VOLUME OF THAT, AND
02:36:41.191 --> 02:36:43.794
THROUGH THAT DECREASED PRICES.
02:36:43.861 --> 02:36:45.429
JUST LIKE THAT. THIS APPROACH
02:36:45.496 --> 02:36:46.697
HERE, WHICH IS NOT A NEW OPERATE
02:36:46.764 --> 02:36:48.499
, FOLLOW STANDARD, BUT SIMILAR
02:36:48.565 --> 02:36:50.434
ONE IS GING TO MANDATE GAS
02:36:50.501 --> 02:36:52.836
UTILITIES TO BUY CLEAN MOLECULES
02:36:52.903 --> 02:36:54.571
AND THROUGH THAT INCREASED THEIR
02:36:54.638 --> 02:36:56.273
VOLUME AND THROUGH THAT
02:36:56.340 --> 02:36:58.108
GRADUALLY DECREASED THAT PRICES
02:36:58.175 --> 02:37:00.344
SO THIS EQUIVALENCE OF THE
02:37:00.410 --> 02:37:01.879
MARKET DYNAMIC BUT NOT DIRECT
02:37:01.945 --> 02:37:03.013
EQUIVALENCE WITH THE MECHANISM.
02:37:03.080 --> 02:37:04.815
GOT IT. OKAY DO YOU WANT
02:37:04.882 --> 02:37:05.449
ANSWERING SENATOR? SORRY,
02:37:05.516 --> 02:37:06.950
COULDN'T TELL JUST SIMPLY IN
02:37:07.017 --> 02:37:10.320
TERMS OF THE DEFINITION.
02:37:10.387 --> 02:37:12.055
CALIFORNIA IS GENERALLY AGNOSTIC
02:37:12.122 --> 02:37:15.325
ON TECHNOLOGY. WHAT WERE OUR
02:37:15.392 --> 02:37:16.727
GOALS TRY TO EITHER. CLEAN THE
02:37:16.794 --> 02:37:22.266
AIR. OR REDUCE CARBON FOOTPRINT,
02:37:22.332 --> 02:37:23.567
THEIR GOALS THAT WE HAVE.
02:37:23.634 --> 02:37:29.039
THROUGH. AH THE BEST TECHNOLOGY
02:37:29.106 --> 02:37:30.307
AVAILABLE AT THE BEST PRICE
02:37:30.374 --> 02:37:35.279
AVAILABLE. TO THE RATEPAYERS. SO
02:37:35.345 --> 02:37:36.480
IT'S A BALANCE OF INTRODUCING A
02:37:36.547 --> 02:37:37.514
SYSTEM THAT ACCOMPLISHES
02:37:37.581 --> 02:37:40.651
MULTIPLE GOALS. SO THE IDEA IN
02:37:40.717 --> 02:37:42.553
THIS BILL THAT WE'RE TRYING TO
02:37:42.619 --> 02:37:46.557
USE THE SAME PRINCIPLES. BEING
02:37:46.623 --> 02:37:49.259
THE MOST. WE CAN NOW AGNOSTIC ON
02:37:49.326 --> 02:37:50.294
TECHNOLOGIES SUCH A LET THE
02:37:50.360 --> 02:37:53.630
MARKET PROVIDE. THE WHOLE. THE
02:37:53.697 --> 02:37:55.666
WHOLE GOAL HERE IS TO REMOVE
02:37:55.732 --> 02:37:56.733
CARBON FROM THE ATMOSPHERE. AND
02:37:56.800 --> 02:38:01.071
WE WANT TO DO THAT. EFFECTIVELY
02:38:01.138 --> 02:38:03.073
TO THE BEST TECHNOLOGY AVAILABLE
02:38:03.140 --> 02:38:04.641
THROUGH THE BEST SYSTEM AT THE
02:38:04.708 --> 02:38:06.777
BEST PRICE, SO YOU HAVE TO WRITE
02:38:06.844 --> 02:38:08.412
A BILL THAT'S ACTUALLY BE CAN BE
02:38:08.478 --> 02:38:12.182
PUT INTO PRACTICE. IN A WAY THAT
02:38:12.249 --> 02:38:13.317
ACCOMPLISHES THE PRINCIPAL GOAL
02:38:13.383 --> 02:38:15.118
OF REMOVING CARBON FROM THE AIR.
02:38:15.185 --> 02:38:17.221
GOT IT? SO I GUESS SO. I JUST
02:38:17.287 --> 02:38:19.323
LAST WEEK WENT ON A TOUR OF A
02:38:19.389 --> 02:38:20.390
LOCAL HYDROGEN FACILITY BECAUSE
02:38:20.457 --> 02:38:21.792
I FELT LIKE I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND
02:38:21.859 --> 02:38:23.460
ENOUGH ABOUT HYDROGEN, AND I
02:38:23.527 --> 02:38:24.428
WANTED TO UNDERSTAND IT. SO I'M
02:38:24.494 --> 02:38:25.896
ARMED WITH A LOT MORE
02:38:25.963 --> 02:38:26.797
INFORMATION THIS WEEK ABOUT
02:38:26.864 --> 02:38:28.332
HYDROGEN THAN I WAS LAST WEEK,
02:38:28.398 --> 02:38:30.334
AND I GOT TO LEARN IN GREAT
02:38:30.400 --> 02:38:32.135
DEPTH ABOUT THE DIFFERENT TYPES
02:38:32.202 --> 02:38:33.370
OF HYDROGEN, WHICH ARE, I THINK
02:38:33.437 --> 02:38:35.038
WELL LAID OUT THE ANALYSIS. FROM
02:38:35.105 --> 02:38:36.406
GREEN HYDROGEN TO TURQUOISE
02:38:36.473 --> 02:38:37.808
HYDROGEN DEGREE HYDROGEN THEY
02:38:37.875 --> 02:38:39.743
TESTED AT THE END I WAS ABLE TO
02:38:39.810 --> 02:38:41.712
NAME WHAT COLOR HE TRIED REGION
02:38:41.778 --> 02:38:43.080
WAS UM, AND IT WAS INTERESTING
02:38:43.146 --> 02:38:44.581
BECAUSE THEY ARE DIFFERENT. THEY
02:38:44.648 --> 02:38:45.048
HAVE DIFFERENT CARBON
02:38:45.115 --> 02:38:46.183
INTENSITIES, RIGHT? DEPENDING ON
02:38:46.250 --> 02:38:48.218
HOW YOU PRODUCE IT. ABSOLUTELY
02:38:48.285 --> 02:38:49.152
YOU USED TO PRODUCE IT,
02:38:49.219 --> 02:38:50.721
ETCETERA. SO THAT'S WHAT HAVING
02:38:50.787 --> 02:38:52.656
HAD THAT TOUR AND NOW FACING
02:38:52.723 --> 02:38:54.491
THIS BILL, I FELT ACTUALLY IN A
02:38:54.558 --> 02:38:55.525
BETTER POSITION, WHICH WAS FUN.
02:38:55.592 --> 02:38:57.594
BUT I MEAN, SO PART OF MY
02:38:57.661 --> 02:38:59.263
CONCERN HERE IS THAT I AGREE
02:38:59.329 --> 02:39:01.231
THAT HYDROGEN NEEDS TO BE A PART
02:39:01.298 --> 02:39:02.332
OF OUR FUTURE. BUT WE ALSO ARE
02:39:02.399 --> 02:39:04.167
IN THE EARLY STAGES OF SOME OF
02:39:04.234 --> 02:39:05.602
THIS DEVELOPMENT. PART OF THAT
02:39:05.669 --> 02:39:06.403
IS DRIVEN BY PRICE TO YOUR
02:39:06.470 --> 02:39:09.706
POINT, UM AND BUT IT'S NOT ALL
02:39:09.773 --> 02:39:11.775
CREATED EQUAL RIGHT AND SOME OF
02:39:11.842 --> 02:39:13.310
IT REDUCES THE CARBON IN THE
02:39:13.377 --> 02:39:14.811
ATMOSPHERE, AND SOME OF IT
02:39:14.878 --> 02:39:15.712
DOESN'T BECAUSE IT'S SO
02:39:15.779 --> 02:39:17.314
INTENSIVE RIGHT NOW IN THE
02:39:17.381 --> 02:39:18.649
ENERGY IT USES RIGHT AND SO THIS
02:39:18.715 --> 02:39:19.683
DEFINITION SEEMS TO NOT
02:39:19.750 --> 02:39:21.985
DISTINGUISH AS CLEARLY BETWEEN
02:39:22.052 --> 02:39:22.953
THOSE TYPES OF HYDROGEN. SUCH
02:39:23.020 --> 02:39:24.288
ELUDED ACHIEVED THE GOAL. YOU'RE
02:39:24.354 --> 02:39:26.089
SAYING OF REDUCING CARBON IN ALL
02:39:26.156 --> 02:39:27.391
CASES, ALL ALL OF THEM DO BUT
02:39:27.457 --> 02:39:29.092
SOME DO MORE PERFECTLY. SOME
02:39:29.159 --> 02:39:32.429
DON'T RELEASE ANY CARBON INTO
02:39:32.496 --> 02:39:33.864
THE ENVIRONMENT AND SOME REALLY
02:39:33.931 --> 02:39:39.336
, UH. EMIT SMALL AMOUNTS AND
02:39:39.403 --> 02:39:41.705
OTHERS, ACTUALLY, UH DO PRODUCE
02:39:41.772 --> 02:39:45.075
CARBON THAT CAN BE SEQUESTERED.
02:39:45.142 --> 02:39:49.513
SO SOME IF YOU NAME BLUE OR
02:39:49.579 --> 02:39:52.382
YELLOW, OR WHATEVER NUMBER
02:39:52.449 --> 02:39:53.383
TURQUOISE OR WHATEVER TECHNOLOGY
02:39:53.450 --> 02:39:58.322
IS EMPLOYED. YES SOME CAN ALSO,
02:39:58.388 --> 02:40:00.724
ADDITIONALLY HAVE ADDITIONAL
02:40:00.791 --> 02:40:01.591
ELEMENT THAT SEQUESTERS CARBON.
02:40:01.658 --> 02:40:04.628
YES, IF YOU CAN DO THAT CHEAPLY.
02:40:04.695 --> 02:40:07.230
WHY NOT EMPLOY THAT AS THE BEST
02:40:07.297 --> 02:40:08.632
TECHNOLOGY AVAILABLE THAT DOES
02:40:08.699 --> 02:40:10.634
THE MOST TO REDUCE CARBON FROM
02:40:10.701 --> 02:40:12.336
THE ENVIRONMENT AT THE BEST
02:40:12.402 --> 02:40:13.603
PRICE AND YOU HAVE MEASURABLE
02:40:13.670 --> 02:40:16.239
OUTCOMES IN TERMS OF HOW MUCH
02:40:16.306 --> 02:40:18.075
CARBON IT'S A MEETING FROM THE
02:40:18.141 --> 02:40:19.643
ENVIRONMENT. I JUST WANT TO ADD
02:40:19.710 --> 02:40:22.212
ON TO THAT IF I COULD NOT NEW
02:40:22.279 --> 02:40:23.113
TECHNOLOGY WE'VE BEEN EXTRACTING
02:40:23.180 --> 02:40:25.615
HYDROGEN. FROM THE ENVIRONMENT
02:40:25.682 --> 02:40:30.454
FOR. MAYBE OVER 100 YEARS NOW
02:40:30.520 --> 02:40:34.558
AND IF YOU I HATE TO USE THIS AS
02:40:34.624 --> 02:40:35.959
AN EXAMPLE. BUT THE HINDENBURG
02:40:36.026 --> 02:40:37.361
WAS ENTIRELY POWERED BY
02:40:37.427 --> 02:40:40.731
HYDROGEN, AND THAT WAS UH,
02:40:40.797 --> 02:40:42.599
ENVIRONMENTAL AND ENGINEERING
02:40:42.666 --> 02:40:45.202
MISHAP THAT CAUSED IT TO GO UP
02:40:45.268 --> 02:40:46.470
IN FLAMES. SO WE KNOW HYDROGEN
02:40:46.536 --> 02:40:53.210
IS THE VERY AH! COMBUSTIBLE SO
02:40:53.276 --> 02:40:55.379
IT'S A GOOD IT'S A GREAT ENERGY
02:40:55.445 --> 02:40:56.847
AND IT CAN SUBSTITUTE NATURAL
02:40:56.913 --> 02:40:58.515
GAS. NATURAL GAS HAS AGAIN. AH
02:40:58.582 --> 02:41:04.588
AH! A BY PRODUCT WHERE. IN MANY
02:41:04.654 --> 02:41:05.756
CASES, WELL, IN ALMOST EVERY
02:41:05.822 --> 02:41:06.957
CASE, YOU BURN HYDROGEN, YOU GET
02:41:07.024 --> 02:41:11.028
WATER. AND SO, UH, THIS IS JUST
02:41:11.094 --> 02:41:14.831
THE AMOUNT OF APPLICATIONS THAT
02:41:14.898 --> 02:41:16.133
THIS WILL OPEN UP TO AND TERMS
02:41:16.199 --> 02:41:19.002
OF MAKING CALIFORNIA. A PRODUCER
02:41:19.069 --> 02:41:21.104
OF HYDROGEN, ADDING IT TO OUR
02:41:21.171 --> 02:41:23.006
OUR ENERGY MIX. IT'S VERY
02:41:23.073 --> 02:41:25.075
EXCITING BECAUSE IT OPENS UP A
02:41:25.142 --> 02:41:26.843
WHOLE WORLD OF NEW OPPORTUNITIES
02:41:26.910 --> 02:41:27.711
THAT GO EXTEND BEYOND.
02:41:27.778 --> 02:41:31.748
CALIFORNIA FIGHTING. THE CARBON
02:41:31.815 --> 02:41:34.618
FOOTPRINT AND PROVIDING FUEL BUT
02:41:34.684 --> 02:41:36.753
ALSO CREATING NEW ECONOMIC
02:41:36.820 --> 02:41:39.022
OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR STATE TO
02:41:39.089 --> 02:41:41.458
PRODUCE A FUEL THAT IT CAN
02:41:41.525 --> 02:41:43.727
EXPORT INTERNATIONALLY INTO
02:41:43.794 --> 02:41:46.129
NEIGHBORING STATES. SO THIS IS A
02:41:46.196 --> 02:41:47.397
VERY I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS
02:41:47.464 --> 02:41:50.734
BILL. WE TAKE TOOK TAKEN A LOT
02:41:50.801 --> 02:41:52.769
OF TIME TO CONSIDER. YOU KNOW
02:41:52.836 --> 02:41:55.672
WHY? WHY SHOULDN'T WE GO FULLY?
02:41:55.739 --> 02:41:58.642
GREEN OR BLUE OR WHITE. WHY NOT
02:41:58.708 --> 02:42:00.377
NOT JUST GO SPECIFICALLY THAT WE
02:42:00.444 --> 02:42:03.713
DON'T. WHY LIMIT OURSELVES TO
02:42:03.780 --> 02:42:06.049
THE MOST EFFECTIVE WAYS TO
02:42:06.116 --> 02:42:07.484
REMOVE CARBON FROM THE FOOTPRINT
02:42:07.551 --> 02:42:10.620
AND THE BEST PRICE. OFTEN TIMES
02:42:10.687 --> 02:42:13.657
WE WANT TO LET THE, UH THE
02:42:13.723 --> 02:42:14.658
PRIVATE SECTOR IN TECHNOLOGY AND
02:42:14.724 --> 02:42:15.692
SCIENCE REALLY SOLVE THAT
02:42:15.759 --> 02:42:19.996
RIDDLE. AND IF WE LIMIT IT TO 11
02:42:20.063 --> 02:42:21.765
, WHAT ONE SPECIFIC TECHNOLOGY
02:42:21.832 --> 02:42:23.900
THAT MAY BE THE MOST MAY NOT BE
02:42:23.967 --> 02:42:26.303
THE MOST COST EFFECTIVE. OR MAY
02:42:26.369 --> 02:42:31.374
NOT BE THE MOST PRACTICAL. IT WE
02:42:31.441 --> 02:42:33.477
WILL DO A DISSERVICE TO OUR
02:42:33.543 --> 02:42:38.148
WHOLE, UH GOAL OF NOT ONLY THE
02:42:38.215 --> 02:42:40.050
CARBONIZED KEEPING OUR RATES LOW
02:42:40.117 --> 02:42:41.418
FOR RATEPAYERS. MR CHAIRMAN, I
02:42:41.485 --> 02:42:43.220
ASK YOU A QUESTION TO THE
02:42:43.286 --> 02:42:45.889
OPPOSITION. SO THIS YEAR CLUB
02:42:45.956 --> 02:42:47.757
AND NRDC AND OTHERS HAD A LETTER
02:42:47.824 --> 02:42:49.860
. I DON'T KNOW IF SOMEBODY WANTS
02:42:49.926 --> 02:42:50.894
TO COME UP IS REPRESENTING THAT
02:42:50.961 --> 02:42:53.330
COALITION. UM THAT SAID THAT AS
02:42:53.396 --> 02:42:54.931
A RESULT OF THIS DEFINITION
02:42:54.998 --> 02:42:56.266
BECAUSE OF THE CARBON INTENSITY
02:42:56.333 --> 02:42:57.767
OF SPLITTING THE NOW YOU'RE
02:42:57.834 --> 02:42:59.136
GOING TO TEST MY SCIENTIFIC
02:42:59.202 --> 02:43:00.036
ABILITIES AND EXPLAINING THIS,
02:43:00.103 --> 02:43:02.005
BUT IT WAS IN YOUR LETTER. UM
02:43:02.072 --> 02:43:03.473
THERE ACTUALLY WOULD BE MORE
02:43:03.540 --> 02:43:04.975
CARBON OUTPUT IN SOME OF THESE
02:43:05.041 --> 02:43:06.076
APPLICATIONS, BUT NOT ALL.
02:43:06.143 --> 02:43:08.145
THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M HEARING.
02:43:08.211 --> 02:43:09.713
HE'S ACTUALLY AN EXPERT ON THE
02:43:09.779 --> 02:43:12.382
SUBJECT. I KNOW HIM BECAUSE HE'S
02:43:12.449 --> 02:43:14.885
HIS FASCINATING TO TALK TO
02:43:14.951 --> 02:43:16.920
APPRECIATE THAT QUESTION, AND
02:43:16.987 --> 02:43:18.421
I'LL ASK HIM TO, BUT THEIR
02:43:18.488 --> 02:43:19.656
LETTER SAID THAT AND I'M HEARING
02:43:19.723 --> 02:43:21.057
SOMETHING DIFFERENT, SO I JUST
02:43:21.124 --> 02:43:22.292
WANT TO CLARIFY THE DIFFERENCE.
02:43:22.359 --> 02:43:23.760
HE CAN ADDRESS THAT. GREAT SO
02:43:23.827 --> 02:43:25.428
MAYBE BOTH COULD. THAT WOULD BE
02:43:25.495 --> 02:43:26.630
HELPFUL IF YOU WANT TO START
02:43:26.696 --> 02:43:28.498
SINCE YOU SINCE IT WAS YOUR
02:43:28.565 --> 02:43:29.833
LETTER THAT SAID IT YEAH. SO I
02:43:29.900 --> 02:43:31.001
BELIEVE THE PART YOU'RE
02:43:31.067 --> 02:43:32.869
REFERRING TO IS THE DEFINITION
02:43:32.936 --> 02:43:34.237
OF GREEN ELECTROLYTIC HYDROGEN,
02:43:34.304 --> 02:43:35.338
WHICH IS CURRENTLY NOT DEFINED
02:43:35.405 --> 02:43:38.141
AS SPLITTING. UM HYDROGEN OFF
02:43:38.208 --> 02:43:41.144
WATER USING RENEWABLE ENERGY. IT
02:43:41.211 --> 02:43:42.646
COULD BE ANY ENERGY. SO IF IT
02:43:42.712 --> 02:43:47.217
WAS. CURRENTLY PRODUCED USING
02:43:47.284 --> 02:43:48.818
CALIFORNIA'S GRID. IT WOULD
02:43:48.885 --> 02:43:50.287
ACTUALLY BE MORE CARBON
02:43:50.353 --> 02:43:52.689
INTENSIVE, THEN NATURAL GAS.
02:43:52.756 --> 02:43:54.658
THAT'S WHAT CARP HAS TOLD US IF
02:43:54.724 --> 02:43:57.427
IT WAS PRODUCED USING S<c.cyan></c>
02:43:57.494 --> 02:43:58.461
IMPORTED FROM ANOTHER STATE,
02:43:58.528 --> 02:44:00.664
USING ANOTHER STATE'S GRID. IT
02:44:00.730 --> 02:44:01.831
WOULD BE EVEN MORE CARBON
02:44:01.898 --> 02:44:04.301
INTENSIVE THAN THAT. THE SECOND
02:44:04.367 --> 02:44:05.435
CONCERN WITH THE DEFINITION OF
02:44:05.502 --> 02:44:08.638
RENEWABLE CARTRIDGE IN THIS BILL
02:44:08.705 --> 02:44:10.307
IS IT DOESN'T SPECIFY WHAT TYPE
02:44:10.373 --> 02:44:13.410
OF ENERGY WOULD BE USED TO KNOCK
02:44:13.476 --> 02:44:15.011
THE HYDROGEN OFF OF S<c.cyan> BIO</c>
02:44:15.078 --> 02:44:18.348
METHANE. AND SO IF IT'S USING
02:44:18.415 --> 02:44:21.418
NATURAL GAS FOSSIL FUELS. WE
02:44:21.484 --> 02:44:23.486
DON'T THINK THAT A SOMETHING
02:44:23.553 --> 02:44:25.589
THAT IS USING FOSSIL FUELS TO BE
02:44:25.655 --> 02:44:26.790
PRODUCED SHOULD BE DEFINED AS
02:44:26.856 --> 02:44:28.458
RENEWABLE IN CALIFORNIA. GOT IT
02:44:28.525 --> 02:44:32.495
SO SENATOR WOULD LIKE YOU TO
02:44:32.562 --> 02:44:33.730
ADDRESS THAT CONCERN AS WELL.
02:44:33.797 --> 02:44:35.165
WHICH I'M OPEN TO EVERYBODY GETS
02:44:35.232 --> 02:44:38.802
TO TALK. YEAH THANK YOU. I WILL
02:44:38.868 --> 02:44:40.770
START MAYBE BY SAYING THAT THE
02:44:40.837 --> 02:44:44.407
ISSUE THAT MY FRIEND RAISES IS
02:44:44.474 --> 02:44:46.610
VALID AND THAT ISSUE IS GOING TO
02:44:46.676 --> 02:44:48.712
MITIGATE ITSELF AWAY IN ABOUT 12
02:44:48.778 --> 02:44:50.513
YEARS BECAUSE I WILL LET IT
02:44:50.580 --> 02:44:52.349
GREED IS GOING TO BE ZERO
02:44:52.415 --> 02:44:56.119
EMISSIONS. THAT IS WHAT WE'RE
02:44:56.186 --> 02:44:57.854
GOING TO THE STATE AT THAT POINT
02:44:57.921 --> 02:45:01.157
IF YOU USE ZERO EMISSIONS POWER
02:45:01.224 --> 02:45:02.859
TO SPLIT HYDROGEN TO SPLIT WATER
02:45:02.926 --> 02:45:05.462
. EXCUSE ME INTO HYDROGEN OXYGEN
02:45:05.528 --> 02:45:06.830
USE THIS HYDROGEN ACROSS THE
02:45:06.896 --> 02:45:09.299
WIDE RANGE OF PURPOSES WITH ITS
02:45:09.366 --> 02:45:11.001
FUEL CELLS OR POWER PLANTS, AND
02:45:11.067 --> 02:45:13.236
THEN, AS SENATOR MENTIONED THE
02:45:13.303 --> 02:45:14.437
MAGIC OF IT, OF COURSE, IS THAT
02:45:14.504 --> 02:45:16.673
WHEN YOU COMBUST, IT TURNS BACK
02:45:16.740 --> 02:45:18.141
TO THE SAME MOLECULE OF WATER
02:45:18.208 --> 02:45:19.876
THATUSED TO MAKE IT SO IT'S
02:45:19.943 --> 02:45:22.879
ACTUALLY ENTIRELY SUSTAINABLE.
02:45:22.946 --> 02:45:24.781
ON THE GLOBAL BASIS AS LONG AS
02:45:24.848 --> 02:45:25.849
THE ENERGY COMES FROM THE
02:45:25.915 --> 02:45:27.517
OUTSIDE. SO CLOSE IT TO THE
02:45:27.584 --> 02:45:32.355
POINT. OF MY FRIEND. THESE.
02:45:32.422 --> 02:45:33.556
GREED IS NOT CARBON FREE YET
02:45:33.623 --> 02:45:38.161
TODAY. WE HAVE TO START IN MY
02:45:38.228 --> 02:45:39.229
OPINION INTRODUCING HYDROGEN TO
02:45:39.296 --> 02:45:42.232
THE ENERGY MIX TODAY. BECAUSE
02:45:42.299 --> 02:45:43.633
TYPICAL INTRODUCTION OF NEW
02:45:43.700 --> 02:45:44.768
COMMODE INTO THE ENERGY MIX
02:45:44.834 --> 02:45:48.338
TAKES CENTURIES. THAT IS THE
02:45:48.405 --> 02:45:50.373
FACT THAT IS HOW WOULD WAS
02:45:50.440 --> 02:45:52.008
CHANGED BY COAL AND COAL WAS
02:45:52.075 --> 02:45:54.210
CHANGED BY OIL AND OIL COULD
02:45:54.277 --> 02:45:55.912
CHANGE BY NATURAL GAS. SO THIS
02:45:55.979 --> 02:45:56.946
ENERGY TRANSITION IS NOT THE
02:45:57.013 --> 02:45:58.982
FIRST ONE. ALL THE PREVIOUS ONES
02:45:59.049 --> 02:46:02.919
TOOK MANY DECADES. WE ARE AIMING
02:46:02.986 --> 02:46:04.954
TO ACCOMPLISH THIS ONE IN MUCH,
02:46:05.021 --> 02:46:07.457
MUCH LESS THAN THAN HISTORICALLY
02:46:07.524 --> 02:46:09.059
, AND THAT IS WHY MY OPINION, WE
02:46:09.125 --> 02:46:10.427
HAVE TO START INTRODUCING THIS
02:46:10.493 --> 02:46:11.528
COMMODITY INTO THE GREED INTO
02:46:11.594 --> 02:46:15.131
THE MIX TODAY. WHILE WE KNOW
02:46:15.198 --> 02:46:16.900
THAT IN 12 YEARS WE ARE GOING TO
02:46:16.966 --> 02:46:18.802
HAVE CARBON FREE GRID AND BY
02:46:18.868 --> 02:46:20.470
THAT TIME, HYDROGEN CAN BE AT
02:46:20.537 --> 02:46:22.439
SCALE AND WE CAN SUCCEED IN
02:46:22.505 --> 02:46:23.640
THAT. THAT IS PROBABLY THE
02:46:23.707 --> 02:46:24.841
RESPONSE I WAS GIVEN THE MACRO
02:46:24.908 --> 02:46:26.276
LEVEL. HAPPY TO GO MORE
02:46:26.343 --> 02:46:29.879
TECHNICAL THAT MIX UP YEAH, I
02:46:29.946 --> 02:46:30.947
DON'T THINK THAT'S NECESSARY,
02:46:31.014 --> 02:46:31.981
BUT THEY APPRECIATE THAT YOU
02:46:32.048 --> 02:46:34.551
COULD AND WOULD SO I GUESS MY
02:46:34.617 --> 02:46:37.454
CONCERN HERE IS THAT AND AGAIN
02:46:37.520 --> 02:46:40.490
ON THIS TOUR I WAS ON LAST WEEK
02:46:40.557 --> 02:46:41.591
. YOU KNOW THEY'RE USING A LOT
02:46:41.658 --> 02:46:43.593
OF RENEWABLE NATURAL GAS TO AS A
02:46:43.660 --> 02:46:45.628
SOURCE TO DO THE WORK THAT NEEDS
02:46:45.695 --> 02:46:48.965
TO BE DONE. I KNOW THERE'S SOME
02:46:49.032 --> 02:46:50.533
CONFLICT AROUND WHETHER THAT IS
02:46:50.600 --> 02:46:52.035
RENEWABLE IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL
02:46:52.102 --> 02:46:52.769
SPACE, AND IT'S
02:46:52.836 --> 02:46:53.670
ENVIRONMENTALISTS. I UNDERSTAND
02:46:53.737 --> 02:46:55.805
THAT BUT THINGS LIKE YOU KNOW,
02:46:55.872 --> 02:46:56.706
LIVESTOCK WASTE EXISTS, WHETHER
02:46:56.773 --> 02:46:58.341
WE UTILIZE THEM OR NOT, AND SO
02:46:58.408 --> 02:47:00.610
AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED,
02:47:00.677 --> 02:47:01.277
UTILIZING THEM IN LIEU OF FOSSIL
02:47:01.344 --> 02:47:03.179
FUELS IS A POSITIVE THING. SO I
02:47:03.246 --> 02:47:04.781
BY NO MEANS IN THE PUREST,
02:47:04.848 --> 02:47:05.982
HOWEVER. YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT
02:47:06.049 --> 02:47:07.550
THERE IF I'M HEARING THAT AND SO
02:47:07.617 --> 02:47:09.586
I DO BELIEVE THERE ARE WAYS TO
02:47:09.652 --> 02:47:10.754
START AND WE ARE SEEING IT
02:47:10.820 --> 02:47:12.622
RIGHT. I MEAN, WE'RE GOING TO
02:47:12.689 --> 02:47:15.358
HAVE YOU KNOW HYDROGEN. FUELING
02:47:15.425 --> 02:47:17.494
STATIONS THAT ARE GOING UP MORE
02:47:17.560 --> 02:47:19.896
AND MORE EVERY DAY. UH AND SO
02:47:19.963 --> 02:47:21.431
AND THEY'RE DOING IT AND SOME OF
02:47:21.498 --> 02:47:22.399
THEM ARE DOING IT USING
02:47:22.465 --> 02:47:23.600
RENEWABLE SOURCES OF ENERGY. AND
02:47:23.666 --> 02:47:25.468
SO I DO THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO
02:47:25.535 --> 02:47:27.170
CALL THIS RENEWABLE HYDROGEN
02:47:27.237 --> 02:47:28.405
THEN I THINK IT MAKES SENSE TO
02:47:28.471 --> 02:47:30.240
DEFINE IT AS THOSE YOU KNOW THAT
02:47:30.306 --> 02:47:32.175
ARE CREATED USING RENEWABLE
02:47:32.242 --> 02:47:33.977
SOURCES OF ENERGY, AND I DON'T
02:47:34.043 --> 02:47:35.145
KNOW. I DON'T THINK THIS GOES
02:47:35.211 --> 02:47:37.013
FAR ENOUGH. AND SO I THINK FOR
02:47:37.080 --> 02:47:39.015
ME. IT'S PROBABLY NOT WHERE IT
02:47:39.082 --> 02:47:39.783
NEEDS TO BE. BUT I APPRECIATE
02:47:39.849 --> 02:47:42.852
ALL THE WORK AND I DO APPRECIATE
02:47:42.919 --> 02:47:43.453
WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. AND I DO
02:47:43.520 --> 02:47:44.888
THINK HYDROGEN IS HAS TO BE A
02:47:44.954 --> 02:47:46.656
PART OF OUR FUTURE AND WILL BE,
02:47:46.723 --> 02:47:48.258
UM AND I'M GRATEFUL FOR PRIVATE
02:47:48.324 --> 02:47:49.993
INDUSTRY FOR BEING OUR PARTNERS
02:47:50.059 --> 02:47:53.329
AND MOVING FORWARD ON THAT. UM,
02:47:53.396 --> 02:48:00.570
JUST TO TRY AND UM. WELL RIGHT
02:48:00.637 --> 02:48:03.006
NOW I HAVE HYDROGEN VEHICLE IT
02:48:03.072 --> 02:48:04.707
IS DEMANDED BY THE STATE OF
02:48:04.774 --> 02:48:06.876
CALIFORNIA THAT ONE THIRD OF
02:48:06.943 --> 02:48:09.212
THAT HYDROGEN BE PRODUCED BY
02:48:09.279 --> 02:48:11.848
RENEWABLE ENERGY. WHEN THIS GOES
02:48:11.915 --> 02:48:13.349
TO THE PUBLIC UTILITIES
02:48:13.416 --> 02:48:15.351
COMMISSION, THEY CAN PUT THE
02:48:15.418 --> 02:48:17.353
SAME SORT OF THING, SAME SORT OF
02:48:17.420 --> 02:48:19.456
MECHANISM AND A GREAT PLACE TO
02:48:19.522 --> 02:48:21.024
MAKE RENEWABLE HYDROGEN WOULD BE
02:48:21.090 --> 02:48:26.329
AT A SOLAR FIELD. AND. BECAUSE
02:48:26.396 --> 02:48:27.530
RIGHT NOW WE HAVE N EXCESS OF
02:48:27.597 --> 02:48:30.767
SOLAR DURING PARTS OF THE DAY.
02:48:30.834 --> 02:48:33.369
SO I THINK THAT WE CAN DEPEND
02:48:33.436 --> 02:48:34.871
UPON THE UTILITIES COMMISSION.
02:48:34.938 --> 02:48:36.039
TO COME UP WITH THE RIGHT
02:48:36.105 --> 02:48:39.542
BALANCE HERE. AND I WANT TO SAY
02:48:39.609 --> 02:48:41.044
THE BIG THING. SO RIGHT NOW,
02:48:41.110 --> 02:48:42.879
HYDROGEN IS $16 A KILOGRAM,
02:48:42.946 --> 02:48:46.049
WHICH IS ABOUT $8 A GALLON. AND
02:48:46.115 --> 02:48:48.051
I USED TO THINK THAT WAS SO
02:48:48.117 --> 02:48:51.187
EXPENSIVE. BUT ANYWAY, UM HOW
02:48:51.254 --> 02:48:54.157
IDEAL L A IS TALKING ABOUT $2 A
02:48:54.224 --> 02:48:59.462
KILOGRAM FOR HYDROGEN. AND. IT'S
02:48:59.529 --> 02:49:01.731
GOING TO BE CHEAPER THAN GAS AT
02:49:01.798 --> 02:49:03.266
SOME POINT, BUT THE THING THAT'S
02:49:03.333 --> 02:49:04.167
HOLDING EVERYTHING BACK IS
02:49:04.234 --> 02:49:07.737
SCALE. IF YOU WE KNOW TODAY HOW
02:49:07.804 --> 02:49:11.107
TO BUILD A HYDROGEN PLANT. AND
02:49:11.174 --> 02:49:12.742
THE PROBLEM IS, IT HAS TO BE
02:49:12.809 --> 02:49:17.447
GOING 24 7 TO REALLY JUSTIFY THE
02:49:17.514 --> 02:49:19.082
AH, THE MONEY YOU PUT INTO THE
02:49:19.148 --> 02:49:22.151
INFRASTRUCTURE. UM AND THAT'S
02:49:22.218 --> 02:49:24.554
WHAT HIGH DEAL L A, WHICH IS
02:49:24.621 --> 02:49:26.789
TRYING FOR $2 A KILOGRAM. THAT'S
02:49:26.856 --> 02:49:28.157
WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO, AND
02:49:28.224 --> 02:49:31.361
EVENTUALLY WE CAN HAVE HYDROGEN.
02:49:31.427 --> 02:49:33.963
AND MAKE IT HERE AND NOT HAVE TO
02:49:34.030 --> 02:49:35.865
WORRY ABOUT WARS. STOPPING THE
02:49:35.932 --> 02:49:41.004
SUPPLY OF OIL AND GAS. THANKS.
02:49:41.070 --> 02:49:45.942
YEAH, THANK YOU. THANK YOU, UH,
02:49:46.009 --> 02:49:47.243
I WAS THINKING ABOUT MISS
02:49:47.310 --> 02:49:49.012
BARRACK AYHAN AND TALKING ABOUT
02:49:49.078 --> 02:49:51.948
HER TOUR THAT SHE DID. MY FIRST
02:49:52.015 --> 02:49:53.116
TOUR WAS ACTUALLY SOME YEARS AGO
02:49:53.182 --> 02:49:55.385
AND LOUISIANA AH, OUT OF PLACE
02:49:55.451 --> 02:49:57.020
THAT WAS REFINING OIL AND FROM
02:49:57.086 --> 02:49:58.955
THAT PROCESS COMING UP WITH
02:49:59.022 --> 02:50:02.125
HYDROGEN AND SO I HAD A
02:50:02.191 --> 02:50:02.859
DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE THAN YOU
02:50:02.926 --> 02:50:04.327
WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THE WHEEL
02:50:04.394 --> 02:50:06.262
AND THE COLORS OF HYDROGEN OUT
02:50:06.329 --> 02:50:08.097
THERE, AND IT'S THAT I
02:50:08.164 --> 02:50:09.332
ACKNOWLEDGE THE HYDROGEN HAS TO
02:50:09.399 --> 02:50:12.869
BE PART OF OUR SYSTEM. I HAVE UM
02:50:12.936 --> 02:50:14.504
HYDROGEN POWERED HOME IN MY
02:50:14.571 --> 02:50:16.706
DISTRICT. THAT'S A TEST OUT
02:50:16.773 --> 02:50:19.375
THEIR PILOT FOR FOLKS TO SEE.
02:50:19.442 --> 02:50:20.877
AND I APPLAUD THAT, ACTUALLY,
02:50:20.944 --> 02:50:24.914
BUT I DO THINK. AH, AS WE HELP
02:50:24.981 --> 02:50:27.584
THIS FEEL SPACE GIRL. WE HAVE TO
02:50:27.650 --> 02:50:28.685
BE REALLY CAREFUL ABOUT THE
02:50:28.751 --> 02:50:31.921
DEFINITION OF CLEAN HYDROGEN. AH
02:50:31.988 --> 02:50:33.856
YOU KNOW, WE HAD A ROBUST
02:50:33.923 --> 02:50:35.592
DISCUSSION ON CC US THIS WEEKEND
02:50:35.658 --> 02:50:37.460
NATURAL RESOURCES AS WELL AND
02:50:37.527 --> 02:50:38.494
THE FEARS, THEREFORE AJ
02:50:38.561 --> 02:50:42.732
COMMUNITIES AS WELL AND SO THE
02:50:42.799 --> 02:50:44.267
DEFINITION OR THE LACK OF
02:50:44.334 --> 02:50:45.702
DEFINITION AND SOMETIMES EVEN
02:50:45.768 --> 02:50:46.569
THE TRUST IN THESE AGENCIES TO
02:50:46.636 --> 02:50:48.504
GET IT RIGHT IS MY CONCERN HERE.
02:50:48.571 --> 02:50:50.473
AND HOW DO WE PUT MORE
02:50:50.540 --> 02:50:51.374
PARAMETERS TO MAKE SURE THAT
02:50:51.441 --> 02:50:52.875
WE'RE STARTING? WE'RE DOING IT
02:50:52.942 --> 02:50:54.010
RIGHT? AND WE'RE TAKING WHAT
02:50:54.077 --> 02:50:55.712
WE'VE LEARNED, UH, YOU KNOW,
02:50:55.778 --> 02:50:58.681
OVER TIME. I SHARE SOME OF THE
02:50:58.748 --> 02:50:59.582
SAME CONCERNS THAT I'M HEARING
02:50:59.649 --> 02:51:01.451
FROM MY ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE
02:51:01.517 --> 02:51:02.619
COMMUNITY, WHETHER IT'S ON THIS
02:51:02.685 --> 02:51:05.688
OR WHETHER IT'S ON CARBON
02:51:05.755 --> 02:51:06.556
CAPTURE AND SO FORTH. AND SO I
02:51:06.623 --> 02:51:08.491
FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THE WHAT
02:51:08.558 --> 02:51:12.629
THE BUT THE BIGNESS AROUND THE
02:51:12.695 --> 02:51:14.897
DEFINITION, UH, AT THIS POINT,
02:51:14.964 --> 02:51:16.032
AND I FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE WITH
02:51:16.099 --> 02:51:17.166
WHAT THE PRESIDENT'S WE MIGHT BE
02:51:17.233 --> 02:51:19.335
STUDYING OUT THERE AND WOULD
02:51:19.402 --> 02:51:22.839
LIKE MORE. OR LESS VAGUENESS. I
02:51:22.905 --> 02:51:23.773
GET TO SEE THIS AGAIN AND
02:51:23.840 --> 02:51:25.675
NATURAL RESOURCES, SO I DON'T
02:51:25.742 --> 02:51:26.442
KNOW THAT I'M PREPARED TO VOTE
02:51:26.509 --> 02:51:29.112
FOR THIS TODAY. IT MAKES IT
02:51:29.178 --> 02:51:30.613
MAKES ME REALLY UNCOMFORTABLE
02:51:30.680 --> 02:51:32.482
THERE UNTIL I ALIGNED SOME OF MY
02:51:32.548 --> 02:51:33.650
COMMENTS WITH MISS BARRACK AYHAN
02:51:33.716 --> 02:51:36.319
AS WELL. AND A PACKAGE. JUST
02:51:36.386 --> 02:51:38.454
ASSUAGE YOUR CONCERNS BECAUSE
02:51:38.521 --> 02:51:40.657
THIS THESE DEFINITIONS ARE
02:51:40.723 --> 02:51:42.325
WITHIN A CONTEXT ALREADY IN
02:51:42.392 --> 02:51:45.828
CALIFORNIA STATE LAW THAT
02:51:45.895 --> 02:51:49.999
ALREADY EMPLOYS CERTAIN, UH,
02:51:50.066 --> 02:51:52.835
EXTRACTION OF ENERGY FROM THESE
02:51:52.902 --> 02:51:54.070
USES, SO IT'S NOT ANYTHING THAT
02:51:54.137 --> 02:51:56.939
IS. INCONSISTENT WITH STATE LAW.
02:51:57.006 --> 02:52:02.011
AND SO. UH AS BUT AS WE MOVE
02:52:02.078 --> 02:52:05.081
FORWARD, YOU KNOW WHAT WE I
02:52:05.148 --> 02:52:06.382
THINK AS AS WAS MENTIONED. IT'S
02:52:06.449 --> 02:52:09.318
IMPORTANT THAT WE GET THIS
02:52:09.385 --> 02:52:11.220
STARTED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AND
02:52:11.287 --> 02:52:12.355
WORK WITHIN THE MEANS THAT WE
02:52:12.422 --> 02:52:16.359
HAVE AVAILABLE AND TRANSITION.
02:52:16.426 --> 02:52:18.661
INTO AH, COMPLETELY CARBON FREE
02:52:18.728 --> 02:52:23.366
GRID IN THE FUTURE. MOMENT SO WE
02:52:23.433 --> 02:52:25.068
, YOU KNOW, WE WROTE THIS INTO
02:52:25.134 --> 02:52:26.769
THE BILL SIMPLY BECAUSE WE
02:52:26.836 --> 02:52:28.805
UNDERSTAND AS BEFORE IT'S GOING
02:52:28.871 --> 02:52:32.341
TO BE, UH, A PROCESS THAT IS A
02:52:32.408 --> 02:52:36.212
TRANSITION THAT WILL RAMP UP AS
02:52:36.279 --> 02:52:37.146
AS YEARS PROGRESS AS THE
02:52:37.213 --> 02:52:40.683
TECHNOLOGY AVAILS ITSELF AND AS
02:52:40.750 --> 02:52:46.255
AS AH, THE DIFFERENT COMMISSIONS
02:52:46.322 --> 02:52:48.024
. IN PARTICULAR. THE PFC LOOKS
02:52:48.091 --> 02:52:51.127
AT THIS. OF COURSE, THIS IS
02:52:51.194 --> 02:52:53.196
GONNA ALIGN WITH OUR STATE'S
02:52:53.262 --> 02:52:54.363
GOALS TO REDUCE CARBON FROM THE
02:52:54.430 --> 02:52:56.365
FOOTPRINT AND I FEEL VERY
02:52:56.432 --> 02:52:57.934
CONFIDENT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO
02:52:58.000 --> 02:52:59.669
WORK TO SELECT THOSE PROJECTS
02:52:59.736 --> 02:53:02.672
AND THOSE PRACTICES. THAT ARE
02:53:02.739 --> 02:53:04.941
MOST EFFECTIVE AT REMOVING
02:53:05.007 --> 02:53:06.609
CARBON FROM THE ENVIRONMENT,
02:53:06.676 --> 02:53:07.643
BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY THE WHOLE
02:53:07.710 --> 02:53:12.281
PURPOSE OF THIS BILL. AND SO
02:53:12.348 --> 02:53:15.084
YEAH. YOU KNOW, IF YOU I'M OPEN
02:53:15.151 --> 02:53:16.185
TO LOOKING AT THE DEFICIENT
02:53:16.252 --> 02:53:19.522
DEFINITION, WHEN AND WHERE IT
02:53:19.589 --> 02:53:22.525
IS. IT HELPS US TO ACHIEVE THOSE
02:53:22.592 --> 02:53:23.793
GOALS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE
02:53:23.860 --> 02:53:25.495
WANT. I'M NOT INTERESTED IN
02:53:25.561 --> 02:53:28.731
PUSHING A BILL. THAT'S GONNA
02:53:28.798 --> 02:53:30.566
HAVE THE NET EFFECT OF
02:53:30.633 --> 02:53:31.667
INTRODUCING CARBON CARBON INTO
02:53:31.734 --> 02:53:32.635
THE ENVIRONMENT THAT IS
02:53:32.702 --> 02:53:35.905
PRECISELY WHY WE SHOULDN'T WORK
02:53:35.972 --> 02:53:38.007
IN THIS ARENA, BUT I MEAN, WE
02:53:38.074 --> 02:53:40.810
ALSO HAVE TO A BILL. SUPPORTED
02:53:40.877 --> 02:53:42.044
BILL AND EMPLOYABILITY PUT INTO
02:53:42.111 --> 02:53:45.615
PRACTICE BILL THAT IS UH,
02:53:45.681 --> 02:53:46.649
ACHIEVABLE. WE NEED ACHIEVABLE
02:53:46.716 --> 02:53:50.553
GOALS. WE CAN'T CREATE A BILL
02:53:50.620 --> 02:53:52.288
THAT WILL NEVER BE PUT INTO
02:53:52.355 --> 02:53:55.358
PRACTICE AND SEND A MESSAGE TO
02:53:55.424 --> 02:53:58.127
BUILD FALSE HOPES IN OUR
02:53:58.194 --> 02:53:59.295
COMMUNITY THAT WE CAN DO THIS
02:53:59.362 --> 02:54:00.963
WHEN IN FACT WE'RE GOING TO NEED
02:54:01.030 --> 02:54:02.198
TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS TO
02:54:02.265 --> 02:54:03.833
ACTUALLY GET THIS TO WORK. SO
02:54:03.900 --> 02:54:06.636
WE'VE HAD A DISCUSSION ON THIS.
02:54:06.702 --> 02:54:08.437
THIS IS NOT A GOD AND MEN BY THE
02:54:08.504 --> 02:54:10.373
WAY IT WAS MENTIONED. THIS IS
02:54:10.439 --> 02:54:12.909
NOT GOING TO AMEND THIS BILL. WE
02:54:12.975 --> 02:54:13.676
INTRODUCED IN FEBRUARY. IT'S
02:54:13.743 --> 02:54:14.844
GONE THROUGH AMENDMENT PROCESS.
02:54:14.911 --> 02:54:15.478
IT'S GONE THROUGHA REVIEW
02:54:15.545 --> 02:54:18.381
PROCESS. IT'S NOT A NEW BILL. UH
02:54:18.447 --> 02:54:20.817
BUT LOOK, I THINK WHEN IT WHEN
02:54:20.883 --> 02:54:22.285
IT COMES TO CLIMATE CHANGE. WE
02:54:22.351 --> 02:54:25.721
ARE IN A HURRY. AND THAT'S
02:54:25.788 --> 02:54:29.091
THAT'S THAT'S A THAT'S A COMMON
02:54:29.158 --> 02:54:31.894
AH, CONCERN BY THE ENTIRE WORLD
02:54:31.961 --> 02:54:34.831
THAT WE ARE, WE NEED TO MOVE
02:54:34.897 --> 02:54:35.998
QUICKLY TO REMOVE CARBON FROM
02:54:36.065 --> 02:54:38.868
THE ENVIRONMENT. AND
02:54:38.935 --> 02:54:40.636
UNFORTUNATELY WE CAN'T WAIT. YOU
02:54:40.703 --> 02:54:42.605
WAVE A MAGIC WAND TO DO IT.
02:54:42.672 --> 02:54:44.941
WE'RE GOING TO. WE GOT TO WORK
02:54:45.007 --> 02:54:45.508
WITH THE TECHNOLOGY THAT WE
02:54:45.575 --> 02:54:46.576
CURRENTLY HAVE AVAILABLE WITHIN
02:54:46.642 --> 02:54:48.244
THE SYSTEMS THAT WE HAVE.
02:54:48.311 --> 02:54:48.778
CURRENTLY AVAILABLE WITHIN
02:54:48.845 --> 02:54:51.547
INFRASTRUCTURE. THAT WE
02:54:51.614 --> 02:54:52.582
CURRENTLY HAVE AVAILABLE AND
02:54:52.648 --> 02:54:54.383
IT'S GOING TO TAKE YEARS TO
02:54:54.450 --> 02:54:56.586
BUILD ON THAT. EVEN WHEN WE TALK
02:54:56.652 --> 02:54:59.422
ABOUT THE ELECTRIC GRID AND HOW
02:54:59.488 --> 02:55:02.024
WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO DE
02:55:02.091 --> 02:55:03.159
CARBONIZED IT. I MEAN, THAT WAS
02:55:03.226 --> 02:55:05.194
A BILL THAT WAS PASSED IN 2006.
02:55:05.261 --> 02:55:06.562
AND WE'RE COMING VERY CLOSE ON
02:55:06.629 --> 02:55:07.563
20 YEARS NOW, AND WE HAVEN'T
02:55:07.630 --> 02:55:11.434
FULLY AH, ACHIEVE THAT GOAL, AND
02:55:11.500 --> 02:55:12.668
IT'S GOING TO TAKE ANOTHER 10
02:55:12.735 --> 02:55:16.606
YEARS. TO REALLY GET THERE. AND
02:55:16.672 --> 02:55:19.675
SO YOU KNOW, I HOPE THAT WE CAN
02:55:19.742 --> 02:55:20.376
MOVE THIS BILL FORWARD AND
02:55:20.443 --> 02:55:22.144
CONTINUE TO HAVE THIS
02:55:22.211 --> 02:55:22.745
CONVERSATION AND CONTINUE TO
02:55:22.812 --> 02:55:25.281
LOOK AT AT THIS ISSUE OF THE
02:55:25.348 --> 02:55:26.382
DEFINITION AND HOW IT'S VERY
02:55:26.449 --> 02:55:27.516
VITAL TO MAKING THIS BILL WORK.
02:55:27.583 --> 02:55:29.252
IN THE FUTURE. ALRIGHT WE'LL
02:55:29.318 --> 02:55:30.653
TAKE THAT AS YOUR CLOSE. I DON'T
02:55:30.720 --> 02:55:32.355
SEE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR
02:55:32.421 --> 02:55:38.494
COMMENTS. AND THIS OKAY? THANK
02:55:38.561 --> 02:55:40.663
YOU. WE DO HAVE A MOTION. IS
02:55:40.730 --> 02:55:43.566
THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THE
02:55:43.633 --> 02:55:47.703
BILL. AND SEEING THE OTHER
02:55:47.770 --> 02:55:48.504
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. WE'LL ASK
02:55:48.571 --> 02:55:53.409
WHERE ROCA. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT SB
02:55:53.476 --> 02:55:56.312
733. THE MOTION IS DUE PASS TO
02:55:56.379 --> 02:55:57.780
NATURAL RESOURCES WITH THE
02:55:57.847 --> 02:55:59.015
AGREEMENT TO TAKE AMENDMENTS AND
02:55:59.081 --> 02:56:00.416
NATURAL RESOURCES. EDUARDO
02:56:00.483 --> 02:56:01.417
GARCIA EDUARDO GARCIA, I
02:56:01.484 --> 02:56:04.353
PATERSON PATERSON NOT VOTING BY
02:56:04.420 --> 02:56:06.389
BAUER-KAHAN. BAUER-KAHAN NO
02:56:06.455 --> 02:56:09.425
CARILLO. CHAD. CHAIR, NOT
02:56:09.492 --> 02:56:13.462
VOTING. CUNNINGHAM. PHÊN FUNG?
02:56:13.529 --> 02:56:18.734
AYE. CRISTINA GARCIA. CRISTINA
02:56:18.801 --> 02:56:20.870
GARCIA, NO, HOLDEN. MAZE.
02:56:20.937 --> 02:56:27.443
MURATSUCHI MERCER CHINO. QUIRK.
02:56:27.510 --> 02:56:30.279
QUIRK I RAISE SANTIAGO CHING.
02:56:30.346 --> 02:56:35.217
THAT'S 33. OPEN. SECOND BILL,
02:56:35.284 --> 02:56:38.587
SENATOR. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.
02:56:38.654 --> 02:56:43.092
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. CHAIR
02:56:43.159 --> 02:56:45.761
MEMBERS. AH AGAIN. I WANT TO
02:56:45.828 --> 02:56:47.663
THANK THE COMMITTEE, UH, MOVED
02:56:47.730 --> 02:56:49.665
THE BILL WITH MY OFFICE ON THE
02:56:49.732 --> 02:56:55.371
SPILL. YEAH. THIS IS 12 OR 86.
02:56:55.438 --> 02:56:56.839
TO HELP OUR MOST VULNERABLE
02:56:56.906 --> 02:56:57.506
RESIDENTS BY SUPPORTING THE
02:56:57.573 --> 02:56:59.108
DEVELOPMENT OF A STREAMLINED
02:56:59.175 --> 02:57:00.576
UNIVERSAL APPLICATION PROCESS
02:57:00.643 --> 02:57:01.811
FOR LOW INCOME ASSISTANCE
02:57:01.877 --> 02:57:04.914
PROGRAMS. THAT ARE OVERSEEN BY
02:57:04.981 --> 02:57:07.984
THE C U P C P U C AND RELATED
02:57:08.050 --> 02:57:13.289
TO, UH, UTILITY PROGRAMS. OVER.
02:57:13.356 --> 02:57:15.424
WITH OVER 400 MILLION MILLION.
02:57:15.491 --> 02:57:17.293
I'M SORRY, WHATEVER FOUR MILLION
02:57:17.360 --> 02:57:19.028
RESIDENTS LIVING BELOW 200% OF
02:57:19.095 --> 02:57:20.629
THE FEDERAL POVERTY STREAMLINED
02:57:20.696 --> 02:57:21.497
UNIVERSAL APPLICATION PROCESS
02:57:21.564 --> 02:57:24.367
WILL ENSURE MORE ELIGIBLE
02:57:24.433 --> 02:57:26.502
RESIDENTS HAVE GREATER ACCESS TO
02:57:26.569 --> 02:57:29.672
ESSENTIAL UTILITY SERVICES. WE
02:57:29.739 --> 02:57:30.873
HAVE PROGRAMS THAT OFTEN MANY
02:57:30.940 --> 02:57:33.776
PEOPLE ARE NOT AWARE OF. THAT
02:57:33.843 --> 02:57:35.678
COULD HELP THEM PUT FOOD ON THE
02:57:35.745 --> 02:57:37.446
TABLE EVERY SINGLE DAY. WE WANT
02:57:37.513 --> 02:57:39.548
THEM TO ACCESS THESE PROGRAMS IF
02:57:39.615 --> 02:57:41.717
THEY QUALIFY, MAKING IT EASIER
02:57:41.784 --> 02:57:43.686
TO APPLY WOULD HELP DO THAT. SO
02:57:43.753 --> 02:57:46.689
WE'RE ASKING THAT THIS BILL
02:57:46.756 --> 02:57:48.290
MOVED FORWARD SO WE CAN HELP
02:57:48.357 --> 02:57:49.725
THOSE FAMILIES QUALIFY FOR MORE
02:57:49.792 --> 02:57:51.927
PROGRAMS THAT ARE ALREADY THERE
02:57:51.994 --> 02:57:53.496
ARE ALREADY ELIGIBLE FOR IT WILL
02:57:53.562 --> 02:57:54.764
TAKE YOUR PRIMARY WITNESS
02:57:54.830 --> 02:57:58.134
TESTIMONY. THANK YOU, CHAIR
02:57:58.200 --> 02:58:00.970
GARCIA AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS. MY
02:58:01.037 --> 02:58:02.138
NAME IS ELIAS GARCIA AND WITH
02:58:02.204 --> 02:58:03.205
THE CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY
02:58:03.272 --> 02:58:03.639
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
02:58:03.706 --> 02:58:05.941
ASSOCIATION, OR SISSY TO CECILIA
02:58:06.008 --> 02:58:07.743
IS A STATEWIDE ECONOMIC
02:58:07.810 --> 02:58:08.244
DEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATION
02:58:08.310 --> 02:58:11.113
COMPRISED OF MORE THAN 300 LOW
02:58:11.180 --> 02:58:12.548
INCOME ADVOCATES, ANTI POVERTY
02:58:12.615 --> 02:58:13.082
ASSOCIATIONS AND COMMUNITY
02:58:13.149 --> 02:58:15.918
DEVELOPMENT CORPORATIONS. WE
02:58:15.985 --> 02:58:17.286
WORK TO EMPOWER ORGANIZATIONS
02:58:17.353 --> 02:58:18.921
SERVING LOW TO MODERATE INCOME
02:58:18.988 --> 02:58:20.189
COMMUNITIES AND COMMUNITIES OF
02:58:20.256 --> 02:58:21.123
COLOR TO CREATE ECONOMIC
02:58:21.190 --> 02:58:23.893
OPPORTUNITY AND SOCIAL EQUITY.
02:58:23.959 --> 02:58:25.528
AND SPECIFICALLY, WE WORK WITH
02:58:25.594 --> 02:58:26.729
MANY GROUPS THAT IMPLEMENT SOME
02:58:26.796 --> 02:58:28.030
OF THE LITTLE INCOME ASSISTANCE
02:58:28.097 --> 02:58:28.931
PROGRAMS REFERENCED IN THIS
02:58:28.998 --> 02:58:31.934
BILL. AS MENTIONED BEFORE
02:58:32.001 --> 02:58:33.702
CALIFORNIA HAS AN ESTIMATED 4.1
02:58:33.769 --> 02:58:35.771
MILLION INDIVIDUALS LIVING BELOW
02:58:35.838 --> 02:58:36.806
200% FEDERAL FEDERAL POVERTY
02:58:36.872 --> 02:58:40.709
LEVEL. AS SUCH, WE HAVE A
02:58:40.776 --> 02:58:41.811
GROWING NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS
02:58:41.877 --> 02:58:43.079
WHO ARE ELIGIBLE FOR EXISTING
02:58:43.145 --> 02:58:44.013
SUPPORT PROGRAMS. YET MANY
02:58:44.080 --> 02:58:46.949
PROGRAMS REMAIN UNDER ENROLLED.
02:58:47.016 --> 02:58:48.451
ACCORDING TO REPORTS FROM THE
02:58:48.517 --> 02:58:51.220
CPUC IS LOW INCOME OVERSIGHT
02:58:51.287 --> 02:58:52.421
BOARD THE SATURATION RATE FOR
02:58:52.488 --> 02:58:54.790
THE LIFELINE PROGRAM ERA AND
02:58:54.857 --> 02:58:55.891
WATER ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS ARE
02:58:55.958 --> 02:59:01.530
BELOW 50. AH E S A IS AT 59% AND
02:59:01.597 --> 02:59:02.932
ONLY CARE HOLDS A HIGH
02:59:02.998 --> 02:59:05.101
SATURATION RATE OF OVER 95.
02:59:05.167 --> 02:59:08.604
THERE'S A DISCONNECT HERE. AS WE
02:59:08.671 --> 02:59:09.872
SAW DURING COVID. THE STATE
02:59:09.939 --> 02:59:11.440
NEEDS TO PROACTIVELY ENSURE THAT
02:59:11.507 --> 02:59:12.575
ELIGIBLE INDIVIDUALS AND
02:59:12.641 --> 02:59:14.110
FAMILIES ACCESS ARE VARIOUS
02:59:14.176 --> 02:59:15.177
ASSISTANT PRO ASSISTANCE
02:59:15.244 --> 02:59:16.212
PROGRAMS, PARTICULARLY DURING A
02:59:16.278 --> 02:59:20.082
CRISIS. CURRENTLY LOW INCOME
02:59:20.149 --> 02:59:21.016
INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES ARE
02:59:21.083 --> 02:59:22.585
BURDENED WITH PROVING THEIR
02:59:22.651 --> 02:59:24.220
ELIGIBILITY FOR THESE PROGRAMS
02:59:24.286 --> 02:59:26.889
MULTIPLE TIMES OVER. THEY
02:59:26.956 --> 02:59:28.657
EFFECTIVELY HAVE TO REPEATEDLY
02:59:28.724 --> 02:59:30.626
PROVED THAT THEY ARE POOR IN
02:59:30.693 --> 02:59:32.695
VARIOUS APPLICATIONS. THIS MAKES
02:59:32.761 --> 02:59:33.696
ACCESSING THESE PROGRAMS
02:59:33.762 --> 02:59:35.097
DIFFICULT FOR THE MOST
02:59:35.164 --> 02:59:36.332
VULNERABLE IN OUR COMMUNITIES,
02:59:36.398 --> 02:59:39.835
THE VERY PEOPLE THAT NEED ACCESS
02:59:39.902 --> 02:59:42.037
MANY LOW INCOME INDIVIDUALS AND
02:59:42.104 --> 02:59:43.139
FAMILIES STRUGGLE WITH THE RANGE
02:59:43.205 --> 02:59:45.774
OF BARRIERS FROM UH, ACCESS TO
02:59:45.841 --> 02:59:46.675
TRANSPORTATION, PHYSICAL
02:59:46.742 --> 02:59:48.711
DISABILITIES, LANGUAGE BARRIERS
02:59:48.777 --> 02:59:50.980
LIMITED TIME DUE TO WORK. BUT
02:59:51.046 --> 02:59:52.047
MAINLY THOSE ELIGIBLE FOR THESE
02:59:52.114 --> 02:59:53.549
PROGRAMS OFTEN HAVE A HAVE A
02:59:53.616 --> 02:59:54.550
LIMITED UNDERSTANDING OF HOW
02:59:54.617 --> 02:59:55.651
THEY WORK. WHAT THEY ARE
02:59:55.718 --> 02:59:57.686
ELIGIBLE FOR. FOR THAT THESE
02:59:57.753 --> 03:00:01.757
PROGRAMS EVEN EXIST AT ALL. THE
03:00:01.824 --> 03:00:03.926
ORGANIZATIONS. WE WORK WITH WORK
03:00:03.993 --> 03:00:05.828
HARD TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC AND
03:00:05.895 --> 03:00:07.396
GET PEOPLE ENROLLED. BUT THIS IS
03:00:07.463 --> 03:00:08.964
AN UPHILL BATTLE THAT IS
03:00:09.031 --> 03:00:10.099
DIFFICULT TO SCALE AND TAKES
03:00:10.166 --> 03:00:12.034
MANY RESOURCES. THE STATE CAN
03:00:12.101 --> 03:00:13.536
ADDRESS THIS BY MAKING SURE WE
03:00:13.602 --> 03:00:14.904
ARE USING ALL AVAILABLE TOOLS TO
03:00:14.970 --> 03:00:15.871
MODERNIZE OUR APPLICATION
03:00:15.938 --> 03:00:19.542
PROCESS. SB 12. OH, EIGHT WOULD
03:00:19.608 --> 03:00:21.744
TAKE THE BURDEN OFF OF LOW
03:00:21.810 --> 03:00:22.311
INCOME FAMILIES BY ENSURING
03:00:22.378 --> 03:00:23.979
COMMUNICATION AND INFORMATION
03:00:24.046 --> 03:00:25.514
SHARING BETWEEN PROGRAM PARTNERS
03:00:25.581 --> 03:00:26.749
, PROGRAM ADMINISTRATORS AND
03:00:26.815 --> 03:00:31.620
IMPLEMENTER. SB 12. OH EIGHT,
03:00:31.687 --> 03:00:33.322
WILL EXPAND THE REACH OF THE
03:00:33.389 --> 03:00:34.657
STATE'S LOW INCOME ASSISTANCE
03:00:34.723 --> 03:00:36.959
PROGRAMS AND ENSURE THAT WE ARE
03:00:37.026 --> 03:00:38.627
MEETING THE NEEDS OF THE MOST
03:00:38.694 --> 03:00:39.528
VULNERABLE AND IMPOVERISHED
03:00:39.595 --> 03:00:41.230
PEOPLE IN OUR STATE. AND IN
03:00:41.297 --> 03:00:43.165
ADDITION, IT WILL SAVE PROGRAMS
03:00:43.232 --> 03:00:44.066
, ADMINISTRATIVE DOLLARS AND
03:00:44.133 --> 03:00:46.936
STAFF TIME. AS SUCH, WE
03:00:47.002 --> 03:00:49.071
RESPECTFULLY URGE YOUR A VOTE ON
03:00:49.138 --> 03:00:51.574
THIS BILL. NEXT WITNESS. THANK
03:00:51.640 --> 03:00:52.841
YOU, MR CHAIRMAN. GOOD
03:00:52.908 --> 03:00:54.109
AFTERNOON. MEMBERS OF THE
03:00:54.176 --> 03:00:55.344
COMMITTEE. MY NAME IS JUSTIN
03:00:55.411 --> 03:00:56.478
SCARVES WITH THE CALIFORNIA
03:00:56.545 --> 03:00:57.246
WATER ASSOCIATION, WHICH
03:00:57.313 --> 03:00:59.782
REPRESENTS THE 90 MORE THAN 90
03:00:59.848 --> 03:01:01.250
UTILITY. WHAT OUR UTILITIES
03:01:01.317 --> 03:01:02.151
REGULATED BY THE PUBLIC
03:01:02.218 --> 03:01:03.252
UTILITIES COMMISSION. AT THE
03:01:03.319 --> 03:01:04.620
OUTSET. WE'D LIKE TO THANK
03:01:04.687 --> 03:01:06.322
SENATOR HUESO FOR HIS WORK ON
03:01:06.388 --> 03:01:07.690
THIS IMPORTANT BILL. AND OF
03:01:07.756 --> 03:01:08.924
COURSE, THE WORK. THE COMMITTEE
03:01:08.991 --> 03:01:10.626
AND COMMITTEE STAFF HAS PUT INTO
03:01:10.693 --> 03:01:11.560
THIS LEGISLATION. IT'S ALWAYS A
03:01:11.627 --> 03:01:13.562
PLEASURE TO WORK WITH THEM. THE
03:01:13.629 --> 03:01:14.463
GOAL OF THIS LEGISLATION IS
03:01:14.530 --> 03:01:16.732
SIMPLE. MAKE IT EASIER FOR
03:01:16.799 --> 03:01:18.701
RESIDENTS TO GAIN ACCESS TO THE
03:01:18.767 --> 03:01:19.602
MANY PROGRAMS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT
03:01:19.668 --> 03:01:21.570
IN PLACE TO ASSIST CUSTOMERS IN
03:01:21.637 --> 03:01:22.738
NEED. IT DOES THIS BY MINIMIZING
03:01:22.805 --> 03:01:23.973
THE NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS THAT
03:01:24.039 --> 03:01:25.608
ANYONE RESIDENT HAS TO FILL OUT,
03:01:25.674 --> 03:01:26.976
MINIMIZING THE NUMBER OF
03:01:27.042 --> 03:01:27.676
PROGRAMS THAT ANYONE RESIDENT
03:01:27.743 --> 03:01:28.811
NEEDS TO KNOW ABOUT TO GAIN
03:01:28.877 --> 03:01:30.746
ACCESS ACCESS TO THAT PROGRAM.
03:01:30.813 --> 03:01:31.714
FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU QUALIFY FOR
03:01:31.780 --> 03:01:33.148
CAL WATERS CUSTOMER ASSISTANCE
03:01:33.215 --> 03:01:34.250
PROGRAM, YOU PROBABLY ALSO
03:01:34.316 --> 03:01:35.818
QUALIFY FOR THE CARE PROGRAM
03:01:35.884 --> 03:01:37.253
FROM THE UTILITIES, MAKING THAT
03:01:37.319 --> 03:01:38.354
PROCESS MUCH EASIER TO APPLY
03:01:38.420 --> 03:01:39.555
FOR. YOU DON'T HAVE TO FILL OUT
03:01:39.622 --> 03:01:41.724
TO APPLICATIONS. FELT ONE GET
03:01:41.790 --> 03:01:43.092
ENROLLED IN BOTH PROGRAMS. WE
03:01:43.158 --> 03:01:43.792
WANT TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR
03:01:43.859 --> 03:01:45.661
CUSTOMERS GAIN ACCESS TO THESE
03:01:45.728 --> 03:01:46.895
PROGRAMS AND ASSIST IN THE
03:01:46.962 --> 03:01:47.997
AFFORDABILITY PROCESS. MAKE SURE
03:01:48.063 --> 03:01:48.931
UTILITY SERVICES REMAIN
03:01:48.998 --> 03:01:50.966
EQUITABLE. WE RESPECTFULLY
03:01:51.033 --> 03:01:51.834
REQUEST YOUR VOTE. THANK YOU FOR
03:01:51.900 --> 03:01:53.902
YOUR TIME. I APPRECIATE IT. ALL
03:01:53.969 --> 03:01:55.204
RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY WITNESSES
03:01:55.271 --> 03:01:56.171
IN OPPOSITION? PRIMARY WITNESSES
03:01:56.238 --> 03:02:00.542
AND OPPOSITION. PLEASE COME
03:02:00.609 --> 03:02:07.316
FORWARD. SORRY TO BE A TWEENER
03:02:07.383 --> 03:02:08.917
AGAIN. PATRICK WATCH WITH THE
03:02:08.984 --> 03:02:10.185
CALIFORNIA MUNICIPAL UNTIL THE
03:02:10.252 --> 03:02:12.121
ASSOCIATION NO POSITION WE HAVE
03:02:12.187 --> 03:02:13.355
BEEN TALKING WITH AUTHORS OFFICE
03:02:13.422 --> 03:02:15.891
APPRECIATE THEM TEND TO THE BILL
03:02:15.958 --> 03:02:17.226
. THINK IT'S A LAUDABLE GOAL.
03:02:17.293 --> 03:02:18.260
THERE ARE A LOT OF
03:02:18.327 --> 03:02:19.261
IMPLEMENTATION DETAILS BETWEEN
03:02:19.328 --> 03:02:20.863
MESHING CPUC PROGRAMS WITH
03:02:20.929 --> 03:02:22.064
PUBLIC ELECTRIC UTILITIES AND
03:02:22.131 --> 03:02:23.699
PUBLIC WATER AGENCIES. WE HAVE
03:02:23.766 --> 03:02:25.167
IDENTIFIED AND FLAG SOME OF
03:02:25.234 --> 03:02:26.835
THOSE CONCERNS, SOME OF WHICH
03:02:26.902 --> 03:02:28.537
ARE REFLECTED ANALYSIS AND LOOK
03:02:28.604 --> 03:02:30.639
FORWARD TO WORKING WITH AUTHOR
03:02:30.706 --> 03:02:32.741
AND THE SPONSOR TO SEE IF WE CAN
03:02:32.808 --> 03:02:33.842
RESOLVE THEM. THANK YOU. THANK
03:02:33.909 --> 03:02:36.211
YOU. WE'LL ASK PEOPLE IN THE
03:02:36.278 --> 03:02:37.346
ROOM. WHO WANT TO STATE THEIR
03:02:37.413 --> 03:02:38.480
POSITION AND SUPPORT. PLEASE
03:02:38.547 --> 03:02:45.721
COME FORWARD. JOSHUA DEBATE ON
03:02:45.788 --> 03:02:48.190
BEHALF OF THE UTILITY REFORM
03:02:48.257 --> 03:02:49.325
NETWORK AND SUPPORT ALL RIGHT.
03:02:49.391 --> 03:02:51.527
THANK YOU. K<c.cyan> KNOWN ELSE. FOLKS</c>
03:02:51.593 --> 03:02:54.697
IN OPPOSITION. STATE YEAR
03:02:54.763 --> 03:02:56.165
POSITION AND OPPOSITION. NAME
03:02:56.231 --> 03:02:59.735
ORGANIZATION. AND POSITION. SEE,
03:02:59.802 --> 03:03:01.570
NO ONE WILL GO TO THE PHONE
03:03:01.637 --> 03:03:05.374
LINE. PHONE LINE, MR MODERATOR.
03:03:05.441 --> 03:03:13.015
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION. FOR THOSE
03:03:13.082 --> 03:03:14.616
WHO WISH TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OR
03:03:14.683 --> 03:03:16.385
OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL, PLEASE
03:03:16.452 --> 03:03:19.922
PRESS 10 AT THIS TIME. GOING TO
03:03:19.988 --> 03:03:29.598
GO TO LINE 37. 37 YEAR LINE IS
03:03:29.665 --> 03:03:41.543
NOW OPEN. AND MR CHAIR. WE'RE
03:03:41.610 --> 03:03:44.380
GOING TO GO TO THE LAST
03:03:44.446 --> 03:03:45.481
REMAINING PERSON WHO SIGNALED
03:03:45.547 --> 03:03:46.615
THEY WISH TO SPEAK JUST A
03:03:46.682 --> 03:03:57.860
MOMENT, PLEASE.
03:03:57.926 --> 03:04:03.165
AND WE WILL NOW GO TO LINE 99.
03:04:03.232 --> 03:04:04.266
MELANIE AMARILLO'S ON BEHALF OF
03:04:04.333 --> 03:04:05.434
THE GREEN LONDON INSTITUTE AND
03:04:05.501 --> 03:04:10.706
SUPPORT. THERE'S TWO CHAIR THERE
03:04:10.773 --> 03:04:12.808
IS NO ONE ELSE HAS SIGNALED THAT
03:04:12.875 --> 03:04:15.144
THEY WISH TO SPEAK. THANK YOU.
03:04:15.210 --> 03:04:15.778
WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO MEMBERS.
03:04:15.844 --> 03:04:16.712
ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS
03:04:16.779 --> 03:04:20.616
CONCERNS. OKAY SEE? NONE WE DO
03:04:20.682 --> 03:04:21.850
HAVE A MOTION A SECOND. WOULD
03:04:21.917 --> 03:04:24.052
YOU LIKE TO CLOSE? JUST SIMPLY
03:04:24.119 --> 03:04:25.287
ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT. WE GOT IT.
03:04:25.354 --> 03:04:27.089
WE'LL CALL THE QUESTION. THANK
03:04:27.156 --> 03:04:28.991
YOU AGAIN. REMEMBER NINE SB 12
03:04:29.057 --> 03:04:32.027
08. THE MOTION IS DUE PASS TO
03:04:32.094 --> 03:04:34.062
COMMUNICATIONS AND CONVENIENCE.
03:04:34.129 --> 03:04:36.565
EDUARDO GARCIA, EDUARDO GARCIA,
03:04:36.632 --> 03:04:38.367
I PATERSON PATERSON. I BARRICADE
03:04:38.434 --> 03:04:40.736
KH CARILLO. CHEN. CUNNINGHAM
03:04:40.803 --> 03:04:46.208
PH<c.cyan>. FUNG I, CRISTINA GARCIA,</c>
03:04:46.275 --> 03:04:47.943
CRISTINA GARCIA, I HOLD IN MAY'S
03:04:48.010 --> 03:04:51.780
MURATSUCHI. MERCER GI QUIRK
03:04:51.847 --> 03:04:55.751
REYES SANTIAGO TING. THAT'S 50
03:04:55.818 --> 03:04:59.621
OPEN. THANK YOU MEMBERS. NICK
03:04:59.688 --> 03:05:14.303
LAWYER. QUIET. MCGUIRE WELCOME.
03:05:14.369 --> 03:05:17.806
HOW YOU DOING, MR CHAIR?
03:05:17.873 --> 03:05:23.378
EMPLOYERS. MR. CHAIR THANK YOU
03:05:23.445 --> 03:05:25.013
SO MUCH. AND TO COMMITTEE
03:05:25.080 --> 03:05:25.948
MEMBERS, MR VICE CHAIR. THANK
03:05:26.014 --> 03:05:27.416
YOU. I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT
03:05:27.483 --> 03:05:30.085
SINCERELY TO SAY THANK YOU TO
03:05:30.152 --> 03:05:31.587
THE CHAIR AND TO YOUR INCREDIBLE
03:05:31.653 --> 03:05:32.187
COMMITTEE STAFF. FOR THE MANY
03:05:32.254 --> 03:05:33.655
HOURS THAT YOU HAVE SPENT ON
03:05:33.722 --> 03:05:37.559
THIS BILL. I'M VERY GRATEFUL AND
03:05:37.626 --> 03:05:39.561
TRULY APPRECIATE THE ENGAGEMENT
03:05:39.628 --> 03:05:41.330
AND, OF COURSE, MR CHAIR. I'LL
03:05:41.396 --> 03:05:42.331
BE ACCEPTING THE COMMITTEE
03:05:42.397 --> 03:05:44.867
AMENDMENTS TODAY. I THINK THAT
03:05:44.933 --> 03:05:46.435
WE'VE ALL SEEN IT IN CALIFORNIA
03:05:46.502 --> 03:05:47.803
HAVE LITERALLY RUN FOR THEIR
03:05:47.870 --> 03:05:48.604
LIVES. WHETHER HOMES BURNED TO
03:05:48.670 --> 03:05:50.906
ESCAPE THE FLAMES FROM UTILITY
03:05:50.973 --> 03:05:52.941
CAUSE WILDFIRES, OTHERS WHO ARE
03:05:53.008 --> 03:05:54.576
UNABLE TO RUN AS WE'VE SEEN IN
03:05:54.643 --> 03:05:56.778
SO MANY CASES, AT LEAST IN
03:05:56.845 --> 03:05:57.312
NORTHERN CALIFORNIA. HAVE
03:05:57.379 --> 03:05:58.881
PERISHED. AND THIS HAS BEEN A
03:05:58.947 --> 03:06:01.049
REALITY FOR FAR TOO LONG HERE IN
03:06:01.116 --> 03:06:02.918
THE GOLDEN STATE, AND THERE MUST
03:06:02.985 --> 03:06:03.986
BE A BETTER PATH FORWARD. AND
03:06:04.052 --> 03:06:05.187
THAT'S WHY WE HAVE INITIALLY.
03:06:05.254 --> 03:06:05.888
THAT'S WHY WE INITIALLY
03:06:05.954 --> 03:06:09.791
INTRODUCED SB 884 TO BE ABLE TO
03:06:09.858 --> 03:06:10.526
PROVIDE A DATA DRIVEN PROCESS
03:06:10.592 --> 03:06:11.960
EXPEDITE UNDER GROUNDING OF
03:06:12.027 --> 03:06:13.695
ELECTRIC UTILITY LINES FROM THE
03:06:13.762 --> 03:06:14.830
HIGHEST FIRE WAS RISK ZONES IN
03:06:14.897 --> 03:06:17.432
CALIFORNIA. WHICH WE KNOW THOSE
03:06:17.499 --> 03:06:18.600
LINES ARE MOST AT RISK FOR
03:06:18.667 --> 03:06:20.402
STARTING THE WILDFIRE. THIS BILL
03:06:20.469 --> 03:06:22.037
IS GOING TO REDUCE CARBON
03:06:22.104 --> 03:06:22.771
EMISSIONS AS WELL BY STOPPING
03:06:22.838 --> 03:06:24.439
MEGA FIRES BEFORE THEY START AND
03:06:24.506 --> 03:06:25.741
WHAT EXPERTS HAVE SAID AND WHAT
03:06:25.807 --> 03:06:27.376
WE KNOW IS UNDERGROUND IN
03:06:27.442 --> 03:06:28.744
ELECTRIC LINES REDUCES FIRE
03:06:28.810 --> 03:06:30.879
STARTS BY 99% AND THIS
03:06:30.946 --> 03:06:32.414
LEGISLATION WILL HOLD ELECTRIC
03:06:32.481 --> 03:06:33.415
UTILITIES ACCOUNTABLE TO THE
03:06:33.482 --> 03:06:34.616
RATEPAYERS TO THE TIMELINES THAT
03:06:34.683 --> 03:06:37.753
THEY SET. INTO A PROJECT SCOPE.
03:06:37.819 --> 03:06:40.088
CURRENTLY IF WE TAKE A LOOK AT
03:06:40.155 --> 03:06:41.123
AMERICA'S LARGEST UTILITY,
03:06:41.189 --> 03:06:42.190
PACIFIC GAS AND ELECTRIC THE
03:06:42.257 --> 03:06:44.293
UNDERGROUND LESS THAN 100 MILES
03:06:44.359 --> 03:06:45.994
OF THEIR ELECTRIC LINES ANNUALLY
03:06:46.061 --> 03:06:47.930
NOW SDG KNEE. ON THE OTHER HAND
03:06:47.996 --> 03:06:49.531
, THEY HAVE BEEN MUCH BETTER, IN
03:06:49.598 --> 03:06:51.300
FACT, OVER HALF OF THEIR LINES
03:06:51.366 --> 03:06:53.201
AND THEIR SERVICE TERRITORY HAVE
03:06:53.268 --> 03:06:54.269
BEEN UNDERGROUND. SO HERE IS
03:06:54.336 --> 03:06:56.438
WHAT THIS BILL WILL DO. NUMBER
03:06:56.505 --> 03:06:57.539
ONE. IT CREATES A DATA DRIVEN
03:06:57.606 --> 03:07:00.075
PROCESS FOR UTILITIES IMPLEMENT
03:07:00.142 --> 03:07:02.678
A LONG TERM UNDER GROUNDING PLAN
03:07:02.744 --> 03:07:04.613
, ONE THAT WILL HAVE EMBEDDED
03:07:04.680 --> 03:07:06.348
INDEPENDENT OVERSIGHT AND BUILT
03:07:06.415 --> 03:07:07.382
IN ACCOUNTABILITY FROM THE
03:07:07.449 --> 03:07:08.584
OFFICE OF ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE
03:07:08.650 --> 03:07:10.786
SAFETY. IN THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC
03:07:10.852 --> 03:07:12.287
UTILITIES COMMISSION NUMBER TWO
03:07:12.354 --> 03:07:13.789
IT DEVELOPS A PATHWAY TO EXPERT
03:07:13.855 --> 03:07:15.490
I UNDERGROUND CONSTRUCTION BY
03:07:15.557 --> 03:07:16.825
ESTABLISHING A SHOT CLOCK FOR
03:07:16.892 --> 03:07:18.427
LOCAL GOVERNMENT PERMIT APPROVAL
03:07:18.493 --> 03:07:20.529
250 DAYS. THREE OF THE
03:07:20.596 --> 03:07:21.630
LEGISLATION WILL SAVE RATEPAYERS
03:07:21.697 --> 03:07:24.900
MONEY. IT MANDATES THAT
03:07:24.967 --> 03:07:26.201
UTILITIES USE AVAILABLE FEDERAL
03:07:26.268 --> 03:07:27.970
INFRASTRUCTURE FUNDS RIGHT NOW,
03:07:28.036 --> 03:07:29.004
AT LEAST ON THE FEDERAL SIDE,
03:07:29.071 --> 03:07:31.006
THERE'S $5 BILLION AVAILABLE TO
03:07:31.073 --> 03:07:31.640
CONSTRUCT UNDERGROUND PROJECTS
03:07:31.707 --> 03:07:34.810
BEFORE USING RATE PAIR OF FUNDS.
03:07:34.876 --> 03:07:37.546
IT ALSO GUARANTEES A 270 DAY
03:07:37.613 --> 03:07:39.047
JUDICIAL REVIEW, WHICH WE'VE
03:07:39.114 --> 03:07:40.015
SEEN IN OTHER PIECES OF
03:07:40.082 --> 03:07:40.916
LEGISLATION AND HAS BEEN
03:07:40.983 --> 03:07:42.951
APPROVED BY THE LEGISLATURE AND
03:07:43.018 --> 03:07:44.019
THE GOVERNOR. UH, AND IT
03:07:44.086 --> 03:07:46.855
PROVIDES THERE'S 270 DAYS.
03:07:46.922 --> 03:07:48.256
JUDICIAL REVIEW IN CALIFORNIA
03:07:48.323 --> 03:07:50.292
COURTS IF AN UNDERGROUND IN
03:07:50.359 --> 03:07:50.859
PROJECT FACES A CALIFORNIA
03:07:50.926 --> 03:07:51.393
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT
03:07:51.460 --> 03:07:55.364
LAWSUIT I WANT TO END IT HERE.
03:07:55.430 --> 03:07:56.598
WE KNOW THAT THERE IS STILL WORK
03:07:56.665 --> 03:08:00.035
ON THIS BILL. THE CHAIR IN HIS
03:08:00.102 --> 03:08:01.870
VERY CAPABLE STAFF HAVE BEEN
03:08:01.937 --> 03:08:04.439
WORKING WITH US. AND YOU HAVE MY
03:08:04.506 --> 03:08:06.174
COMMITMENT, MR CHAIR THAT WE'RE
03:08:06.241 --> 03:08:07.943
GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH
03:08:08.010 --> 03:08:09.044
ALL STAKEHOLDERS IN THIS BILL.
03:08:09.111 --> 03:08:11.713
BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS OVER MY
03:08:11.780 --> 03:08:16.118
IN AND YEAR OUT. WE HAVE SEEN
03:08:16.184 --> 03:08:17.586
MASSIVE UTILITY COSTS WILDFIRES
03:08:17.653 --> 03:08:19.121
IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA. AND WE
03:08:19.187 --> 03:08:22.658
HAVE TO CHANGE THIS. THE WESTERN
03:08:22.724 --> 03:08:23.425
UNITED STATES IS GETTING HOTTER
03:08:23.492 --> 03:08:24.993
AND DRIER. THE THREAT OF
03:08:25.060 --> 03:08:26.194
WILDFIRES IS GETTING WORSE. AND
03:08:26.261 --> 03:08:27.529
EVERYONE KNOWS THAT THE PATH
03:08:27.596 --> 03:08:28.797
FORWARD IS FOR ELECTRIC UTILITY
03:08:28.864 --> 03:08:30.499
TO SPEED UP THE PACE AND MOVING
03:08:30.565 --> 03:08:32.367
POWER LINES UNDERGROUND, WHERE
03:08:32.434 --> 03:08:33.935
THEY EXIST IN THE HIGHEST FIRE
03:08:34.002 --> 03:08:36.304
WAS RISK ZONES. LIVES ARE
03:08:36.371 --> 03:08:38.273
LITERALLY AT RISK, AND WE KNOW
03:08:38.340 --> 03:08:39.274
THAT LET'S JUST LEGISLATION WILL
03:08:39.341 --> 03:08:40.642
HELP MAKE COMMUNITIES MORE FIRE
03:08:40.709 --> 03:08:43.712
SAFE AND SAVE RATEPAYERS MONEY.
03:08:43.779 --> 03:08:45.947
THERE IS NO OTHER CHOICE BUT TO
03:08:46.014 --> 03:08:47.416
MOVE THESE POWER LINES IN THE
03:08:47.482 --> 03:08:48.884
MOST HIGH FIRE WITH SIX RISK
03:08:48.950 --> 03:08:50.986
ZONES UNDERGROUND AND HOLD
03:08:51.053 --> 03:08:51.620
UTILITIES ACCOUNTABLE TO THEIR
03:08:51.687 --> 03:08:52.954
WORD, WHICH THIS LEGISLATION
03:08:53.021 --> 03:08:55.657
WOULD DO. TODAY MR. CHAIR. I
03:08:55.724 --> 03:08:57.492
HAVE TERRY MCHALE. HE REPRESENTS
03:08:57.559 --> 03:09:01.163
THE AMAZING WOMEN AND MEN OF CAL
03:09:01.229 --> 03:09:02.330
FIRE FIREFIGHTERS WHO HAVE BEEN%
03:09:02.397 --> 03:09:02.964
WITH US FROM THE VERY BEGINNING,
03:09:03.031 --> 03:09:04.733
AND WE ALSO HAVE RACHEL COSTS
03:09:04.800 --> 03:09:06.334
WITH THE CALIFORNIA COALITION
03:09:06.401 --> 03:09:07.002
UTILITY EMPLOYEES WHO WOULD LIKE
03:09:07.069 --> 03:09:08.737
TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL.
03:09:08.804 --> 03:09:10.806
AND AGAIN, MR CHAIR. THANK YOU
03:09:10.872 --> 03:09:11.707
FOR YOUR INCREDIBLE WORK. GOOD
03:09:11.773 --> 03:09:12.941
AFTERNOON RACHEL COST ON BEHALF
03:09:13.008 --> 03:09:14.676
OF THE COALITION OF CALIFORNIA
03:09:14.743 --> 03:09:16.378
UTILITY EMPLOYEES. I WANT TO
03:09:16.445 --> 03:09:18.413
HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE KEY
03:09:18.480 --> 03:09:20.882
BENEFITS OF THIS BILL. UM, FIRST
03:09:20.949 --> 03:09:22.384
AS AN INITIAL MATTER, I WANT TO
03:09:22.451 --> 03:09:24.352
MAKE CLEAR THAT THIS IS A
03:09:24.419 --> 03:09:25.387
VOLUNTARY PROGRAM THAT ALLOWS I
03:09:25.454 --> 03:09:29.791
O. U. S. TO SUBMIT LONG TERM
03:09:29.858 --> 03:09:31.693
UNDER GROUNDING PLANS FOR HIGH
03:09:31.760 --> 03:09:33.528
FIRE RISK AREAS. ONLY THIS IS
03:09:33.595 --> 03:09:35.097
NOT A MANDATORY PROGRAM. NO
03:09:35.163 --> 03:09:37.199
UTILITY WOULD HAVE TO DO IT.
03:09:37.265 --> 03:09:40.001
IT'S VOLUNTARY. SECOND FROM ANY
03:09:40.068 --> 03:09:42.304
OF THESE HIGH RISK FIRE AREAS.
03:09:42.370 --> 03:09:44.272
THERE IS NO LONG TERM SOLUTION
03:09:44.339 --> 03:09:46.074
FOR WILDFIRE PREVENTION OTHER
03:09:46.141 --> 03:09:49.077
THAN UNDER GROUNDING. ALL IT
03:09:49.144 --> 03:09:50.612
TAKES IS ONE TINY LITTLE MISTAKE
03:09:50.679 --> 03:09:53.515
AND WE HAVE A GIANT WILDFIRE.
03:09:53.582 --> 03:09:55.917
EVEN WITH THE BEST VEGETATION
03:09:55.984 --> 03:09:58.587
MANAGEMENT PROGRAM IN THE WORLD
03:09:58.653 --> 03:10:00.021
, THERE'S JUST NO WAY TO
03:10:00.088 --> 03:10:02.524
ABSOLUTELY AVOID HAVING POWER
03:10:02.591 --> 03:10:05.293
LINES START FIRES OCCASIONALLY.
03:10:05.360 --> 03:10:06.428
UNDER GROUNDING IS REALLY THE
03:10:06.495 --> 03:10:10.332
ONLY SOLUTION. AND PLUS, WHILE
03:10:10.398 --> 03:10:11.633
THE CURRENT STRATEGY OF
03:10:11.700 --> 03:10:13.368
VEGETATION MANAGEMENT, PUBLIC
03:10:13.435 --> 03:10:15.737
SAFETY POWER SHUTOFFS ENHANCED
03:10:15.804 --> 03:10:17.372
POWER LINE SAFETY SETTINGS AND
03:10:17.439 --> 03:10:19.908
OVER OVERHEAD HARDENING. IS
03:10:19.975 --> 03:10:22.277
REDUCING RISK TREMENDOUSLY. THE
03:10:22.344 --> 03:10:24.513
COST FOR VEG MANAGEMENT ALONE
03:10:24.579 --> 03:10:27.015
FOR P GENIE IS $1 BILLION
03:10:27.082 --> 03:10:28.350
ANNUALLY, AND CUSTOMERS ARE
03:10:28.416 --> 03:10:31.987
STILL LOSING POWER. UNDER
03:10:32.053 --> 03:10:33.088
GROUNDING WOULD DECREASE COSTS
03:10:33.155 --> 03:10:33.722
SIGNIFICANTLY BY ELIMINATING A
03:10:33.789 --> 03:10:37.192
LOT OF VEG MANAGEMENT. AND
03:10:37.259 --> 03:10:38.326
WHAT'S TO SUBSTANTIALLY REDUCE
03:10:38.393 --> 03:10:43.198
OUTAGES. THIRD HAVING A LONG
03:10:43.265 --> 03:10:45.167
TERM PLANNING HORIZON IS KEY FOR
03:10:45.233 --> 03:10:48.737
ATTRACTING TRAINING AND
03:10:48.804 --> 03:10:52.674
RETAINING A WORKFORCE THAT CAN
03:10:52.741 --> 03:10:54.776
ENSURE THAT THIS WORK IS DONE
03:10:54.843 --> 03:10:56.945
SAFELY AND EFFECTIVELY. I'M
03:10:57.012 --> 03:10:58.780
WORKING IN ONE YEAR INCREMENTS
03:10:58.847 --> 03:11:01.216
OR EVEN OVER A FOUR YEAR GRC
03:11:01.283 --> 03:11:03.819
CYCLE JUST DOESN'T WORK FOR THIS
03:11:03.885 --> 03:11:05.854
TYPE OF HUGE INFRASTRUCTURE
03:11:05.921 --> 03:11:08.023
PROJECT. I'VE LITIGATED MANY
03:11:08.089 --> 03:11:11.259
GENERAL RATE CASES AT THE PUC.
03:11:11.326 --> 03:11:13.295
AND IT IS REALLY DIFFICULT TO
03:11:13.361 --> 03:11:13.929
GET APPROVAL FOR APPRENTICESHIP
03:11:13.995 --> 03:11:19.000
HIRING. THE PUC NEEDS VERY CLEAR
03:11:19.067 --> 03:11:22.771
DIRECTION ON THIS. AND SO HAVING
03:11:22.838 --> 03:11:24.439
THIS STATUTORY PROGRAM WOULD
03:11:24.506 --> 03:11:27.209
MAKE IT EASIER TO SAY WE NEED TO
03:11:27.275 --> 03:11:29.010
HIRE THESE APPRENTICES NOW TO
03:11:29.077 --> 03:11:32.314
BUILD OUT THE LONG TERM PROGRAM
03:11:32.380 --> 03:11:34.583
SAFE SAFELY AND EFFECTIVELY.
03:11:34.649 --> 03:11:36.918
ALSO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO
03:11:36.985 --> 03:11:38.553
NOTE THAT IF YOU'RE A WORKER AND
03:11:38.620 --> 03:11:40.722
YOU ARE ON A PROJECT FOR SAYING
03:11:40.789 --> 03:11:44.426
NINE MONTHS, BUT THERE'S NO
03:11:44.492 --> 03:11:46.127
PROJECT LINED UP AFTER BECAUSE
03:11:46.194 --> 03:11:46.828
IT HASN'T BEEN PLANNED FOR
03:11:46.895 --> 03:11:48.897
APPROVED. YOU'RE GOING TO LOOK
03:11:48.964 --> 03:11:50.031
FOR ANOTHER JOB. SO THIS CYCLE,
03:11:50.098 --> 03:11:51.633
UM IT'S JUST IT MAKES IT
03:11:51.700 --> 03:11:53.001
IMPOSSIBLE TO RETAIN A QUALIFIED
03:11:53.068 --> 03:11:54.736
WORKFORCE TO DO THIS WORK SAFELY
03:11:54.803 --> 03:11:58.206
AND EFFECTIVELY. FOURTH THE BILL
03:11:58.273 --> 03:12:00.609
HAS GUARD WORK GUARDRAILS AND A
03:12:00.675 --> 03:12:03.411
FRAMEWORK WHICH MAKE THE PROGRAM
03:12:03.478 --> 03:12:04.512
AS ADVANTAGEOUS AS POSSIBLE FOR
03:12:04.579 --> 03:12:07.349
RATEPAYERS. I O. U S WOULD HAVE
03:12:07.415 --> 03:12:09.718
TO EXHAUST NON RATEPAYER FUNDING
03:12:09.784 --> 03:12:11.453
SOURCES BEFORE THEY COULD GO TO
03:12:11.519 --> 03:12:13.555
THE PUC AND ASKED FOR A COVERING
03:12:13.622 --> 03:12:15.223
IN RATES AND THE BILL THAT HOLDS
03:12:15.290 --> 03:12:18.126
UTILITIES ACCOUNTABLE. FOR
03:12:18.193 --> 03:12:20.428
STICKING TO THE PROGRAM FOR
03:12:20.495 --> 03:12:21.563
SHOWING SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS AND
03:12:21.630 --> 03:12:25.233
SHOWING COST REDUCTIONS. FIFTH
03:12:25.300 --> 03:12:28.036
JUST AS A NOTE. THIS BILL DOES
03:12:28.103 --> 03:12:29.337
NOT AFFECT OR INTERFERE WITH
03:12:29.404 --> 03:12:31.640
MAYBE 10 54 AT ALL. IT'S A
03:12:31.706 --> 03:12:33.174
PROGRAM THAT'S COMPLEMENTARY TO
03:12:33.241 --> 03:12:36.678
AN ADDITION TO MAYBE 10 54. AND
03:12:36.745 --> 03:12:38.780
FINALLY BECAUSE THEY REPRESENT
03:12:38.847 --> 03:12:40.448
THE WORKERS OF THE UTILITIES. I
03:12:40.515 --> 03:12:41.416
THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE
03:12:41.483 --> 03:12:44.953
THAT OF COURSE, UNDER GROUNDING
03:12:45.020 --> 03:12:48.123
WILL BRING A LOT OF WORK TO THEM
03:12:48.189 --> 03:12:49.457
OVER THE LIFE OF THE PROGRAM.
03:12:49.524 --> 03:12:52.160
BUT WE RECOGNIZE THIS FOR ME AND
03:12:52.227 --> 03:12:54.162
TREMENDOUSLY LESS WORK, UM, IN
03:12:54.229 --> 03:12:56.431
THE LONG RUN FOR OVERHEAD WORK.
03:12:56.498 --> 03:12:58.767
AND WE'RE STILL WILLING TO
03:12:58.833 --> 03:12:59.901
SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE IT'S
03:12:59.968 --> 03:13:00.669
CLEARLY THE BEST LONG TERM
03:13:00.735 --> 03:13:07.409
SOLUTION. THANK YOU SO MUCH. MR
03:13:07.475 --> 03:13:08.743
CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE
03:13:08.810 --> 03:13:09.945
COMMITTEE TERRY MCHALE, WITH
03:13:10.011 --> 03:13:11.179
AARON REID AND ASSOCIATES
03:13:11.246 --> 03:13:12.213
REPRESENTING CAL FIRE LOCAL TO
03:13:12.280 --> 03:13:16.017
881. THE HISTORIC FIRES IN THE
03:13:16.084 --> 03:13:17.419
LAST FIVE YEARS. MR CHAIRMAN AND
03:13:17.485 --> 03:13:19.421
MEMBERS ARE A MATTER OF RECORD.
03:13:19.487 --> 03:13:21.122
IN THE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT
03:13:21.189 --> 03:13:22.691
WE ARE SPENDING NOW ON THESE
03:13:22.757 --> 03:13:25.460
FIRES IS ALARMING. IN A RECENT
03:13:25.527 --> 03:13:27.829
SENATOR ANALYSIS SAYS THAT THE
03:13:27.896 --> 03:13:28.997
RISK IN THIS CENTURY WILL GROW
03:13:29.064 --> 03:13:32.534
BY 77. THE SECOND THING THAT IS
03:13:32.600 --> 03:13:34.636
A MATTER OF RECORD. IS THAT A
03:13:34.703 --> 03:13:35.670
PRECIPITATING FACTOR OF MANY OF
03:13:35.737 --> 03:13:37.505
THESE FIRES ARE THE OVERHEAD
03:13:37.572 --> 03:13:40.342
LINES. WE KNOW IT'S A PROBLEM
03:13:40.408 --> 03:13:41.776
AND WE KNOW IT'S A PROBLEM
03:13:41.843 --> 03:13:43.011
THAT'S GROWING MORE PROFOUND AND
03:13:43.078 --> 03:13:45.413
MORE EGREGIOUS. I SPOKE WITH
03:13:45.480 --> 03:13:46.581
RETIRED INVESTIGATOR FOR CAL
03:13:46.648 --> 03:13:51.353
FIRE. HE SAID THAT 40 YEARS AGO
03:13:51.419 --> 03:13:52.287
THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THE
03:13:52.354 --> 03:13:53.888
NECESSITY OF THESE UNDERGROUND
03:13:53.955 --> 03:13:55.623
LINES IN ORDER TO PREVENT THE
03:13:55.690 --> 03:13:58.193
FIRES. EVERY YEAR. WE SEND
03:13:58.259 --> 03:14:00.362
INSPECTORS OUT TO LOOK AT WHAT
03:14:00.428 --> 03:14:02.197
THE UTILITIES HAVE THERE AND
03:14:02.263 --> 03:14:04.232
WHAT WE DISCOVER IS THAT REALLY
03:14:04.299 --> 03:14:06.201
WERE PLAYING A DEADLY GAME OF
03:14:06.267 --> 03:14:08.870
CHICKEN. BUT SOMETHING IS NOT
03:14:08.937 --> 03:14:10.538
GOING TO GO WRONG WITH MANY OF
03:14:10.605 --> 03:14:13.608
THESE AGED LINES AND CAUSE A
03:14:13.675 --> 03:14:16.811
FIRE OF DEEP CONSEQUENCE. IT WAS
03:14:16.878 --> 03:14:19.147
A FIRE LAST YEAR THAT KEPT OUR
03:14:19.214 --> 03:14:20.281
FIREFIGHTERS ON THE LINE FOR
03:14:20.348 --> 03:14:23.118
FIVE WEEKS. IT'S WRONG.
03:14:23.184 --> 03:14:25.186
SOMETHING CAN BE DONE. THIS
03:14:25.253 --> 03:14:27.489
LEGISLATION EXPEDITES A LONG
03:14:27.555 --> 03:14:31.626
OVERDUE SOLUTION. I WOULD ALSO
03:14:31.693 --> 03:14:33.161
SAY THAT THE MAJORITY LEADER HAS
03:14:33.228 --> 03:14:35.130
BEEN VERY WILLING TO SIT WITH
03:14:35.196 --> 03:14:36.731
THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE
03:14:36.798 --> 03:14:38.633
CONCERNS TO SEE IF HE CAN IRON
03:14:38.700 --> 03:14:40.835
OUT THE PROBLEMS. WE TRUST THAT
03:14:40.902 --> 03:14:42.070
THAT OPEN DOOR WILL READ WILL BE
03:14:42.137 --> 03:14:43.405
WILL REMAIN. MR CHAIRMAN,
03:14:43.471 --> 03:14:45.440
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. CAL
03:14:45.507 --> 03:14:48.243
FIRE LOCAL TO 88. 1 ASKED FOR AN
03:14:48.309 --> 03:14:51.112
I VOTE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
03:14:51.179 --> 03:14:53.715
WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION PRIMARY
03:14:53.782 --> 03:14:55.150
WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION TO
03:14:55.216 --> 03:14:58.653
MINUTE TEACH. THANK YOU. I'M
03:14:58.720 --> 03:15:00.321
CYNTHIA SHELLAC FOR INDIVISIBLE
03:15:00.388 --> 03:15:03.158
CALIFORNIA GREEN TEAM. DOZENS OF
03:15:03.224 --> 03:15:05.627
ORGANIZATIONS CALL FOR A NO VOTE
03:15:05.693 --> 03:15:08.129
ON SB 84 BECAUSE IT PROVIDES
03:15:08.196 --> 03:15:09.931
SEQUA FAST TRACK EXEMPTION ON
03:15:09.998 --> 03:15:12.967
PRIVATE AND PUBLIC LAND. IT
03:15:13.034 --> 03:15:14.102
UNDERMINES THE COMPREHENSIVE
03:15:14.169 --> 03:15:17.172
APPROACH OF HOLDEN'S A B 10 54,
03:15:17.238 --> 03:15:18.206
WHICH WHICH CHRISTIAN GARCIA
03:15:18.273 --> 03:15:21.476
HELPED TO SHAPE. EVEN IF ACCEPT
03:15:21.543 --> 03:15:23.645
THE RESULTS OF PG AND E S LOW
03:15:23.711 --> 03:15:26.514
ESTIMATE OF 17 BILLION FOR UNDER
03:15:26.581 --> 03:15:28.249
GROUNDING, YOU COULD RAISE RATES
03:15:28.316 --> 03:15:30.985
BY 100% THE CPUC SAYS THAT EVERY
03:15:31.052 --> 03:15:34.823
$1 MILLION RAISED RATES BY 7. SO
03:15:34.889 --> 03:15:37.025
CAL EDISON HAS COMPARED COSTS
03:15:37.092 --> 03:15:39.961
AND FOUND IN ALMOST ALL CASES.
03:15:40.028 --> 03:15:42.230
COVERED CONDUCTORS AND FAULT
03:15:42.297 --> 03:15:42.797
INTERRUPTERS ARE MUCH LESS
03:15:42.864 --> 03:15:45.700
COSTLY THAN UNDER GROUNDING.
03:15:45.767 --> 03:15:49.003
EVEN PG AND E S OWN ANALYSIS
03:15:49.070 --> 03:15:50.238
RATED OVERHEAD, HARD WAITING
03:15:50.305 --> 03:15:52.474
HARD WIRING AS A BETTER SOLUTION
03:15:52.540 --> 03:15:54.309
THAN UNDER GROUNDING, ESPECIALLY
03:15:54.375 --> 03:15:55.710
WHEN YOU EVALUATE THE EXPOSURE
03:15:55.777 --> 03:15:56.911
TO INJURY OR LOSS COMPARED TO
03:15:56.978 --> 03:16:01.216
THE COSTS. UNDER GROUNDING IS
03:16:01.282 --> 03:16:03.518
ONLY 4.4 COMPARED TO 7.6 SCORE
03:16:03.585 --> 03:16:06.821
FOR OVERHEAD MODERNIZATION. THE
03:16:06.888 --> 03:16:08.356
AMENDMENTS AND ATTACHMENT A HAVE
03:16:08.423 --> 03:16:09.757
MADE GOOD SOUNDING LANGUAGE,
03:16:09.824 --> 03:16:11.993
SUCH AS REQUIRING SUBSTANTIAL
03:16:12.060 --> 03:16:14.729
IMPROVEMENTS AND SAFETY RISK AND
03:16:14.796 --> 03:16:16.364
REDUCTIONS COSTS. THEY ALSO
03:16:16.431 --> 03:16:17.532
REQUIRE AN INDEPENDENT MONITOR,
03:16:17.599 --> 03:16:19.601
BUT AMENDMENTS ONLY SPECIFY THAT
03:16:19.667 --> 03:16:23.571
GETS THAT? OH YEAH, I SHALL
03:16:23.638 --> 03:16:25.740
CONSIDER THE MONITORS FINDING
03:16:25.807 --> 03:16:27.575
THE PROBLEM I, AS FAR AS WE
03:16:27.642 --> 03:16:29.377
KNOW ALL THE I S HAS NEVER
03:16:29.444 --> 03:16:31.279
REJECTED A UTILITY PLAN. AUDITOR
03:16:31.346 --> 03:16:32.947
TILDEN CRITICIZED. OH, YEAH?
03:16:33.014 --> 03:16:34.883
YES, THIS PROCESS AND CPUC HAS A
03:16:34.949 --> 03:16:36.751
POOR TRACK RECORD EVERY
03:16:36.818 --> 03:16:37.986
REQUESTING 'LL USE TO ALTER
03:16:38.052 --> 03:16:41.589
THEIR PLANS. THE IIS REVIEW OF
03:16:41.656 --> 03:16:43.992
PGS WILD FILE OR PLANT ALREADY
03:16:44.058 --> 03:16:45.860
CRITICIZES PG AND E S ABILITY TO
03:16:45.927 --> 03:16:47.896
MEET AND UNDER GROUNDING GOALS
03:16:47.962 --> 03:16:50.098
BY ITS OWN EMISSIONS. PG AND E.
03:16:50.165 --> 03:16:51.766
ONLY COMPLETED 7 70 MILES OF
03:16:51.833 --> 03:16:54.302
UNDERGROUND IN IN 2021. THERE IS
03:16:54.369 --> 03:16:56.471
NO TRACK RECORD TO JUSTIFY DOING
03:16:56.538 --> 03:16:59.874
1200 MILES A YEAR. THE CRITERIA
03:16:59.941 --> 03:17:01.442
FOR EVALUATING PLANS HAVE NO
03:17:01.509 --> 03:17:03.044
GUARANTEE GUARDRAILS. PG AND E
03:17:03.111 --> 03:17:04.612
HAVE SHOWN THEMSELVES OVER AND
03:17:04.679 --> 03:17:07.315
OVER TO NOT DO WHAT THEY
03:17:07.382 --> 03:17:12.787
PROMISE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
03:17:12.854 --> 03:17:13.621
GOOD AFTERNOON SHARING MEMBERS,
03:17:13.688 --> 03:17:14.589
NICOLINA HERNANDEZ WITH SANTIAGO
03:17:14.656 --> 03:17:16.591
GUESTS, AND, UM, STANDING GAS
03:17:16.658 --> 03:17:17.959
AND ELECTRIC AND OPPOSITION AS
03:17:18.026 --> 03:17:21.629
WELL. WE APPRECIATE, UM, THE
03:17:21.696 --> 03:17:22.730
AUTHOR AND THE COMMITTEE FOR ALL
03:17:22.797 --> 03:17:24.933
THE WORK THAT THEY'VE DONE AS
03:17:24.999 --> 03:17:25.767
WELL ON THIS BILL, AND WE'VE
03:17:25.833 --> 03:17:27.669
DEFINITELY COME A LONG WAY FROM
03:17:27.735 --> 03:17:28.436
WHERE WE STARTED. A LOT OF THE
03:17:28.503 --> 03:17:30.038
CONCERNS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED,
03:17:30.104 --> 03:17:32.040
WILL CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THE
03:17:32.106 --> 03:17:33.141
DETAILS AND THE SPECIFIC
03:17:33.208 --> 03:17:34.542
LANGUAGE ONCE THAT'S AVAILABLE.
03:17:34.609 --> 03:17:36.778
WE DO AGREE THAT THE FRAMEWORK
03:17:36.844 --> 03:17:38.379
PROVIDED AN ATTACHMENT A IS
03:17:38.446 --> 03:17:40.315
HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
03:17:40.381 --> 03:17:41.449
UM, SO BASED ON WHAT WE KNOW SO
03:17:41.516 --> 03:17:43.184
FAR ABOUT WHAT COULD POTENTIALLY
03:17:43.251 --> 03:17:44.852
BE IN THE BILL BASED ON WITH AN
03:17:44.919 --> 03:17:46.487
ATTACHMENT A. WHAT ARE THE
03:17:46.554 --> 03:17:48.289
CONCERNS? I'M GOING TO FOCUS ON
03:17:48.356 --> 03:17:49.824
TODAY FOCUS ON WHAT WOULD REMAIN
03:17:49.891 --> 03:17:51.993
IN THE BILL. IF ATTACHMENT, A
03:17:52.060 --> 03:17:53.561
AMENDMENTS WERE TAKEN. AND
03:17:53.628 --> 03:17:55.096
SPECIFICALLY, THERE'S A
03:17:55.163 --> 03:17:56.364
PROVISION IN THE BILL THAT WOULD
03:17:56.431 --> 03:17:58.933
REQUIRE I O. U C, PARTICIPATE IN
03:17:59.000 --> 03:18:00.802
THE VOLUNTARY PROGRAM TO EXHAUST
03:18:00.868 --> 03:18:01.469
NON REPAIR FUNDS SUCH AS
03:18:01.536 --> 03:18:02.704
FEDERAL, STATE AND LOCAL FUNDS
03:18:02.770 --> 03:18:04.772
BEFORE SEEKING COST RECOVERY.
03:18:04.839 --> 03:18:06.808
UM, WELL, YOU KNOW, WE SUPPORT
03:18:06.874 --> 03:18:07.875
LEVERAGING DIFFERENT TYPES OF
03:18:07.942 --> 03:18:09.877
FUNDS THAT ARE AVAILABLE. WE DO
03:18:09.944 --> 03:18:10.778
BELIEVE THAT THIS PROVISION
03:18:10.845 --> 03:18:12.447
LACKS A LOT OF SPECIFICITY, AND
03:18:12.513 --> 03:18:13.881
WE WOULD REQUEST THAT THE THESE
03:18:13.948 --> 03:18:15.016
PARTICULAR ISSUES BE ADDRESSED.
03:18:15.083 --> 03:18:18.152
WE THINK IT'S TOO VAGUE. IT
03:18:18.219 --> 03:18:19.420
DOESN'T PROVIDE ENOUGH
03:18:19.487 --> 03:18:20.955
INFORMATION IN TERMS OF WHAT
03:18:21.022 --> 03:18:22.523
TYPES OF FUNDS WERE THE SOURCES
03:18:22.590 --> 03:18:23.491
MIGHT COME FROM, AND THAT
03:18:23.558 --> 03:18:24.993
PARTICULAR PROCESS FOR HOW THAT
03:18:25.059 --> 03:18:26.928
WOULD WORK. UM WE HAVE SOME
03:18:26.995 --> 03:18:29.397
CONFUSION AROUND WHAT IT MEANS
03:18:29.464 --> 03:18:31.299
TO EXHAUST OTHER FUNDS OR OTHER
03:18:31.366 --> 03:18:32.934
NON RATEPAYER FUNDS. WE KNOW
03:18:33.001 --> 03:18:34.636
THAT IN TERMS OF THE FEDERAL
03:18:34.702 --> 03:18:36.037
FUNDING THAT'S AVAILABLE, SUCH
03:18:36.104 --> 03:18:37.605
AS THE INVESTMENT ACT, THE
03:18:37.672 --> 03:18:39.073
FEDERAL INVESTMENT ACT AND THAT
03:18:39.140 --> 03:18:40.441
THE STATE COULD DISTRIBUTE THOSE
03:18:40.508 --> 03:18:41.542
FUNDS IN DOLLARS, BUT WE'RE
03:18:41.609 --> 03:18:44.779
CONCERNED ABOUT YOU KNOW IF
03:18:44.846 --> 03:18:46.214
THERE ARE OTHER IF WE'RE YOU
03:18:46.281 --> 03:18:47.715
KNOW, TRYING TO TURN OVER EVERY
03:18:47.782 --> 03:18:49.651
STONE TO LOOK AT ALL THE FUNDS
03:18:49.717 --> 03:18:51.619
THAT ARE AVAILABLE IN ORDER TO
03:18:51.686 --> 03:18:53.221
EXHAUST THEM. WHAT IF WE MISS
03:18:53.288 --> 03:18:54.289
SOMETHING PARTICULAR GRANT AT
03:18:54.355 --> 03:18:55.490
THE FISH, YOU KNOW THE
03:18:55.556 --> 03:18:57.325
DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND GAME OR
03:18:57.392 --> 03:18:58.926
SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WHAT WOULD
03:18:58.993 --> 03:18:59.994
HAPPEN IN THAT SCENARIO, WOULD
03:19:00.061 --> 03:19:01.229
WE BE UNABLE TO GET COST
03:19:01.296 --> 03:19:02.997
RECOVERY? HOW THAT HOW WOULD WE
03:19:03.064 --> 03:19:04.899
PROVE THAT WE DID EXHAUST ALL
03:19:04.966 --> 03:19:06.467
THE AVAILABLE FUNDS, SO WE HOPE
03:19:06.534 --> 03:19:08.736
THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE
03:19:08.803 --> 03:19:09.437
CAN CONTINUE WORKING WITH THE
03:19:09.504 --> 03:19:11.139
AUTHOR AND SPONSORS ON JUST WANT
03:19:11.205 --> 03:19:15.376
TO MENTION THAT UM, ONE OF THE
03:19:15.443 --> 03:19:16.644
CONCERNS ALONG WITH TRYING TO
03:19:16.711 --> 03:19:17.812
PROVE THAT WE'VE EXHAUSTED THE
03:19:17.879 --> 03:19:19.847
FUNDS IS THAT I MEAN, WOULD IT
03:19:19.914 --> 03:19:22.350
MIGHT IT MAY DELAY OUR TIMING IN
03:19:22.417 --> 03:19:25.153
TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO START AND
03:19:25.219 --> 03:19:26.187
COMPLETE A PROJECT BECAUSE WE'RE
03:19:26.254 --> 03:19:27.021
STILL SEEKING DIFFERENT TYPES OF
03:19:27.088 --> 03:19:28.456
FUNDS. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO SAY
03:19:28.523 --> 03:19:30.158
AS THE SENATOR OPENED, YOU KNOW,
03:19:30.224 --> 03:19:31.693
WE ARE AT 68% UNDERGROUND AIR
03:19:31.759 --> 03:19:32.960
CARE SYSTEM. 44% UNDER GUARD IN
03:19:33.027 --> 03:19:34.595
HIGH FIRE THREAT DISTRICT, AND
03:19:34.662 --> 03:19:35.897
WE DO HAVE AN INDUSTRY LEADING
03:19:35.963 --> 03:19:36.931
WELFARE SAFETY AND MITIGATION
03:19:36.998 --> 03:19:39.967
PROGRAM. UM AND, UH AND I KNOW
03:19:40.034 --> 03:19:43.971
pON THIS WITH WITH RESPECT TO THE
03:19:44.038 --> 03:19:46.274
SEQUENCE AND PERMIT STREAMLINING
03:19:46.341 --> 03:19:48.509
ACT. UM AND I KNOW THAT THAT
03:19:48.576 --> 03:19:50.812
ISSUE ALSO BE LOOKED AT IN THE
03:19:50.878 --> 03:19:52.180
SECOND POLICY COMMITTEE AND
03:19:52.246 --> 03:19:53.614
NATURAL RESOURCES. BUT DO YOU
03:19:53.681 --> 03:19:55.283
WANT TO SAY THAT THAT COULD BE
03:19:55.350 --> 03:19:57.385
OF WORTH DISCUSSING IN THIS
03:19:57.452 --> 03:19:58.986
COMMITTEE IS THAT UNDER THE
03:19:59.053 --> 03:20:03.391
PROGRAMS, UH AH, SEQUEL AND
03:20:03.458 --> 03:20:05.560
PERMIT. STREAMLINING UM, FROM
03:20:05.626 --> 03:20:08.229
WHAT IS AVAILABLE TO US NOW, IN
03:20:08.296 --> 03:20:08.996
THE PROCESS, THE PROGRAM WOULD
03:20:09.063 --> 03:20:12.200
ACTUALLY ADD ABOUT 3 TO 5 YEARS.
03:20:12.266 --> 03:20:14.502
TO THE WHOLE PROJECT FOR UNDER
03:20:14.569 --> 03:20:15.903
GROUNDING, SO FROM FROM OUR
03:20:15.970 --> 03:20:18.139
PERSPECTIVE, UM IT DOESN'T
03:20:18.206 --> 03:20:19.540
ACTUALLY SPEED UP THE PROCESS,
03:20:19.607 --> 03:20:21.943
SO WE WANT TO ALSO WORK ON THAT
03:20:22.009 --> 03:20:23.444
AND SEE IF THERE ARE WAYS TO
03:20:23.511 --> 03:20:25.279
PROVIDE SOME GUIDANCE AND OTHER
03:20:25.346 --> 03:20:27.849
OPPORTUNITIES TO BE ABLE TO
03:20:27.915 --> 03:20:29.217
UNDERGROUND WHERE WE CAN, WHERE
03:20:29.283 --> 03:20:30.818
IT MAKES SENSE WHERE IT'S
03:20:30.885 --> 03:20:32.587
FEASIBLE AND IN THE SHORTEST
03:20:32.653 --> 03:20:34.489
AMOUNT OF TIME AS WELL. SO WITH
03:20:34.555 --> 03:20:36.591
THAT IN OPPOSITION AT THE MOMENT
03:20:36.657 --> 03:20:37.525
, WE APPRECIATE WHERE THE
03:20:37.592 --> 03:20:39.727
AUTHORS GOING, AND WE'D LIKE TO
03:20:39.794 --> 03:20:41.329
SEE THE AMENDMENTS IN PRINT AND
03:20:41.396 --> 03:20:43.064
THEN DECIDE AND AT THAT POINT
03:20:43.131 --> 03:20:46.267
HOPEFULLY T<c.cyan> REMOVE OUR</c>
03:20:46.334 --> 03:20:47.935
OPPOSITION, BUT I APPRECIATE THE
03:20:48.002 --> 03:20:49.971
TIME AND HOPE THAT THE REMAINING
03:20:50.037 --> 03:20:50.571
ISSUES CAN BE RESOLVED. THANK
03:20:50.638 --> 03:20:54.609
YOU. THANK YOU. WE'LL ASK FOR
03:20:54.675 --> 03:20:55.710
FOLKS WANTING TO SPEAK IN
03:20:55.777 --> 03:21:01.983
SUPPORT. OPPOSITION OPPOSITION.
03:21:02.049 --> 03:21:03.484
MR CHAIR AND MEMBERS GREGG COOK
03:21:03.551 --> 03:21:04.152
, REPRESENTINGNORTHERN
03:21:04.218 --> 03:21:05.586
CALIFORNIA POWER AGENCY IN
03:21:05.653 --> 03:21:06.788
SUPPORT OF THIS VERY IMPORTANT,
03:21:06.854 --> 03:21:10.858
BILL. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON
03:21:10.925 --> 03:21:12.226
, MR CHAIR JUST IN PENCIL ON
03:21:12.293 --> 03:21:13.728
BEHALF OF THE PROCEEDS
03:21:13.795 --> 03:21:15.296
COUNSELING TREATMENT OF WORKERS
03:21:15.363 --> 03:21:16.931
, CALIFORNIA STATE PIPE TRADES
03:21:16.998 --> 03:21:18.199
COUNCIL AND THE CALIFORNIA STATE
03:21:18.266 --> 03:21:19.100
ASSOCIATION OF ELECTRICAL
03:21:19.167 --> 03:21:22.770
WORKERS ON SUPPORT. GOOD
03:21:22.837 --> 03:21:24.539
AFTERNOON, CATHERINE BRANDENBURG
03:21:24.605 --> 03:21:25.606
, WITH THE BRANDENBURG GROUP
03:21:25.673 --> 03:21:26.574
REPRESENTING CINEMA, CLEAN POWER
03:21:26.641 --> 03:21:34.148
IN SUPPORT. ADAM SMITH, SOUTHERN
03:21:34.215 --> 03:21:35.516
CALIFORNIA EDISON STILL OPPOSED
03:21:35.583 --> 03:21:37.518
TO THE BILL IN PRINT. WE THINK
03:21:37.585 --> 03:21:38.753
THAT THE DIRECTION OF THE NEW
03:21:38.820 --> 03:21:39.487
CONCEPTUAL FRAMEWORK WE SAW
03:21:39.554 --> 03:21:40.922
YESTERDAY IS LOOKING LIKE IT'S
03:21:40.988 --> 03:21:42.423
MOVING IN THE RIGHT WAY, BUT I
03:21:42.490 --> 03:21:44.459
THINK AS WE HEARD FROM YOU AS
03:21:44.525 --> 03:21:45.827
WELL, OUR WORK TO BE DONE
03:21:45.893 --> 03:21:46.894
COMPLETELY AGREE WITH THE
03:21:46.961 --> 03:21:48.629
COMMENTS FROM SAN DIEGO GAS
03:21:48.696 --> 03:21:51.065
ELECTRIC. THANK YOU. MR CHAIR
03:21:51.132 --> 03:21:52.500
COMMITTEE MEMBERS, SENATOR
03:21:52.567 --> 03:21:53.568
BERNIE ROSCOE WITH THE
03:21:53.634 --> 03:21:54.969
CALIFORNIA CABLE AND
03:21:55.036 --> 03:21:56.103
TELECOMMUNICATIONS ASSOCIATION.
03:21:56.170 --> 03:21:57.205
WE HAD BEEN IN OPPOSITION, BUT
03:21:57.271 --> 03:21:58.506
WITH THE ADOPTION OF THE
03:21:58.573 --> 03:21:59.640
COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS, WE WILL BE
03:21:59.707 --> 03:22:00.575
WITHDRAWING THAT OPPOSITION.
03:22:00.641 --> 03:22:04.612
THANK YOU, SENATOR. GOOD
03:22:04.679 --> 03:22:06.214
AFTERNOON SENATOR COMMITTEE
03:22:06.280 --> 03:22:08.883
MEMBERS AND SHARE YOLANDA BENSON
03:22:08.950 --> 03:22:10.751
WITH THE U. S TELECOM WITH US
03:22:10.818 --> 03:22:12.253
TELECOM, THE BROADBAND
03:22:12.320 --> 03:22:15.256
ASSOCIATION. WE WANT TO THANK
03:22:15.323 --> 03:22:17.058
THE SENATOR FOR ALL THE WORK AND
03:22:17.124 --> 03:22:18.493
ALL THE WORK FROM THE COMMITTEE
03:22:18.559 --> 03:22:20.428
IN GETTING US TO WHERE WE ARE.
03:22:20.495 --> 03:22:21.362
TODAY WE ARE REMOVING OUR
03:22:21.429 --> 03:22:23.130
OPPOSITION AND WILL BE GOING
03:22:23.197 --> 03:22:24.966
NEUTRAL ON THE BILL. THANK YOU,
03:22:25.032 --> 03:22:28.402
SENATOR. CHAIR MEMBERS, ALICIA
03:22:28.469 --> 03:22:29.403
PRIEGO ON BEHALF OF THE
03:22:29.470 --> 03:22:30.938
CALIFORNIA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
03:22:31.005 --> 03:22:32.640
WE ARE OPPOSED TO THE CURRENT
03:22:32.707 --> 03:22:34.408
BILL IN PRINT, BUT WE WILL BE
03:22:34.475 --> 03:22:35.343
REVIEWING THE AMENDMENTS AND
03:22:35.409 --> 03:22:37.378
HOPE THAT THE NEW FRAMEWORK
03:22:37.445 --> 03:22:38.212
FRAMEWORK INCLUDES COST
03:22:38.279 --> 03:22:41.249
EFFECTIVE STRATEGIES. THANK YOU.
03:22:41.315 --> 03:22:42.683
MR CHAIR AND MEMBERS BETH ALLAH
03:22:42.750 --> 03:22:43.684
. SO ON BEHALF OF THE
03:22:43.751 --> 03:22:45.353
AGRICULTURAL ENERGY CONSUMERS
03:22:45.419 --> 03:22:46.220
ASSOCIATION IN REGRETFUL
03:22:46.287 --> 03:22:47.622
OPPOSITION, THANK YOU. OKAY,
03:22:47.688 --> 03:22:48.689
WE'RE GOING TO GO TO THE
03:22:48.756 --> 03:22:54.095
MODERATOR. TO HAVE FOLKS CALL IN
03:22:54.161 --> 03:22:55.129
AN OPPOSITION OR SUPPORT. SB
03:22:55.196 --> 03:23:00.935
884. BECAME MR CHAIR FOR THOSE
03:23:01.002 --> 03:23:02.503
WHO WISH TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OR
03:23:02.570 --> 03:23:04.672
OPPOSITION OF SB 88 4, PLEASE
03:23:04.739 --> 03:23:09.977
PRESS ONE THAN ZERO. WE'RE GOING
03:23:10.044 --> 03:23:16.050
TO GO TO LINE 13. GOOD AFTERNOON
03:23:16.117 --> 03:23:18.419
. SARAH RUTH, ELECTED DELEGATE
03:23:18.486 --> 03:23:20.721
FROM 18 55 TO THE L. A COUNTY
03:23:20.788 --> 03:23:22.123
CENTRAL DEMOCRATIC COMMITTEE AND
03:23:22.189 --> 03:23:23.791
ALSO MEMBER OF THE CDP,
03:23:23.858 --> 03:23:24.292
ENVIRONMENTAL CAUCUS AND
03:23:24.358 --> 03:23:34.201
OPPOSITION. LINE 87. THIS IS
03:23:34.268 --> 03:23:36.203
MARY KATE BENSON, REPRESENTING
03:23:36.270 --> 03:23:38.306
3, 50 BUTTE COUNTY AND STANDING
03:23:38.372 --> 03:23:39.373
IN SOLIDARITY WITH RECLAIM OUR
03:23:39.440 --> 03:23:43.844
POWER. UM IF I COULD SAY WE ARE
03:23:43.911 --> 03:23:45.713
OPPOSED, THANK YOU COULD SAY A
03:23:45.780 --> 03:23:47.748
COUPLE WORDS MORE FROM BUTTE
03:23:47.815 --> 03:23:49.350
COUNTY. I WOULD LIKE TO I THINK?
03:23:49.417 --> 03:23:51.185
YES. YOUR NAME POSITION. THANK
03:23:51.252 --> 03:23:59.393
YOU. LINE 101. GOOD AFTERNOON.
03:23:59.460 --> 03:24:04.231
MY NAME IS MARY ROSE. GOOD
03:24:04.298 --> 03:24:06.334
AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS MARY ROSE
03:24:06.400 --> 03:24:07.802
KARAOKE. I'M WITH RECLAIM OUR
03:24:07.868 --> 03:24:10.771
POWER UTILITY JUSTICE CAMPAIGN
03:24:10.838 --> 03:24:12.039
AND WE RESPECTFULLY OPPOSED THE
03:24:12.106 --> 03:24:14.342
BILL UNLESS AMENDED WITH SEVERAL
03:24:14.408 --> 03:24:15.409
OF OUR AMENDMENTS SUBMITTED TO
03:24:15.476 --> 03:24:24.952
THE AUTHOR. FINE, 77. GOOD
03:24:25.019 --> 03:24:26.854
AFTERNOON. THIS IS RALPH TENNIS
03:24:26.921 --> 03:24:29.323
ON BEHALF OF 3 50 BAY AREA
03:24:29.390 --> 03:24:30.458
ACTION IN OPPOSITION TO THIS
03:24:30.524 --> 03:24:37.331
BILL. THANK YOU. LINE 57. HELLO
03:24:37.398 --> 03:24:39.867
THIS IS STEPHANIE BROWN IN SAN
03:24:39.934 --> 03:24:40.968
JOSE, SENATOR COUNTY AND I
03:24:41.035 --> 03:24:43.537
OPPOSE S C H FOURTH. THANK YOU
03:24:43.604 --> 03:24:51.112
VERY MUCH. LINE 100. MR CHAIR
03:24:51.178 --> 03:24:51.846
AND MEMBERS ALEX TORRES WITH THE
03:24:51.912 --> 03:24:53.347
BAY AREA COUNCIL, REGRETTABLY
03:24:53.414 --> 03:24:55.016
OPPOSED AT THIS TIME, BUT WE
03:24:55.082 --> 03:24:56.283
WILL BE REVIEWING THE AMENDMENTS
03:24:56.350 --> 03:24:57.485
REEVALUATED. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
03:24:57.551 --> 03:25:03.991
LINE 103. CHAIR AND MEMBERS NATE
03:25:04.058 --> 03:25:05.626
SOLO ON THE APP OF FRONTIER
03:25:05.693 --> 03:25:07.862
COMMUNICATIONS AS A RESULT OF
03:25:07.928 --> 03:25:08.362
THE COMMITTEE AMENDMENT,
03:25:08.429 --> 03:25:09.163
REMOVING TELECOMMUNICATIONS FROM
03:25:09.230 --> 03:25:10.364
THE BILL, WE'RE GOING FROM
03:25:10.431 --> 03:25:12.566
OPPOSED TO NEUTRAL. THANK YOU.
03:25:12.633 --> 03:25:17.171
FIND ONE. OH, SIX. GOOD
03:25:17.238 --> 03:25:18.072
AFTERNOON INSURANCE COMMITTEES
03:25:18.139 --> 03:25:19.607
WERE SHELL SWANSON FROM CROWN
03:25:19.674 --> 03:25:21.542
CASTLE. WE HAD BEEN OPPOSED, AND
03:25:21.609 --> 03:25:23.044
WITH THE ADOPTION OF THE
03:25:23.110 --> 03:25:24.578
AMENDMENTS WILL BE MOVING TO
03:25:24.645 --> 03:25:26.380
NEUTRAL AND WANT TO EXPRESS
03:25:26.447 --> 03:25:29.283
GREAT. APPRECIATION TO SENATOR
03:25:29.350 --> 03:25:30.985
MCGUIRE FOR ACCEPTING THE
03:25:31.052 --> 03:25:32.119
AMENDMENTS AND THE WORK OF THE
03:25:32.186 --> 03:25:38.426
COMMITTEE. THANK YOU. LINE SIX.
03:25:38.492 --> 03:25:40.661
YES MY NAME IS NANCY MACY I'M
03:25:40.728 --> 03:25:42.096
CHAIR OF THE VALLEY WOMEN'S%
03:25:42.163 --> 03:25:43.664
CLUBS ENVIRONMENTAL COMMITTEE OF
03:25:43.731 --> 03:25:45.466
SAN LORENZO VALLEY IN SANTA CRUZ
03:25:45.533 --> 03:25:48.135
COUNTY AND ALSO CHAIR OF THE
03:25:48.202 --> 03:25:49.303
STATEWIDE UNIT UTILITY WILDFIRE.
03:25:49.370 --> 03:25:54.709
WILDFIRE. REDUCTION TASK FORCE.
03:25:54.775 --> 03:25:57.478
AND IT'S THIS IS AN EMERGENCY.
03:25:57.545 --> 03:26:00.114
WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO WASTE.
03:26:00.181 --> 03:26:02.616
KEEP FIXING IT. WE'RE OPPOSED TO
03:26:02.683 --> 03:26:05.853
THIS LINE. 74. YES HELLO. THIS
03:26:05.920 --> 03:26:07.154
IS REBECCA ELLIOTT WITH
03:26:07.221 --> 03:26:09.423
INDIVISIBLE STANCES DAY AND
03:26:09.490 --> 03:26:11.559
INDIVISIBLE SCREEN TEAM. WE ARE
03:26:11.625 --> 03:26:12.727
STRONGLY OPPOSED TO THIS BILL.
03:26:12.793 --> 03:26:18.299
THANK YOU. LINE ONE. OH, FIVE.
03:26:18.365 --> 03:26:20.801
HI MY NAME IS WENDY HOCKEY. I'M
03:26:20.868 --> 03:26:22.470
WITH 3 50 SASKATCHEWAN
03:26:22.536 --> 03:26:23.504
LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE AND I
03:26:23.571 --> 03:26:27.308
OPPOSED AS THE 80. 84 THANK YOU
03:26:27.374 --> 03:26:32.446
LINE 16. HI JENNIFER TANNER ON
03:26:32.513 --> 03:26:34.048
BEHALF OF INDIVISIBLE CALIFORNIA
03:26:34.115 --> 03:26:35.683
GREEN TEAM ON BEHALF OF ALL THE
03:26:35.750 --> 03:26:37.651
MANY GROUPS THAT SIGNED ARE
03:26:37.718 --> 03:26:38.786
OPPOSED LETTER WE OPPOSED SB
03:26:38.853 --> 03:26:42.590
884. THANK YOU. FIND ONE. OH,
03:26:42.656 --> 03:26:48.429
SEVEN. GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIR
03:26:48.496 --> 03:26:50.464
MEMBERS, DEAN TALLY ON BEHALF OF
03:26:50.531 --> 03:26:51.432
CALIFORNIA MANUFACTURERS AND
03:26:51.499 --> 03:26:53.067
TECHNOLOGY ASSOCIATION. WE
03:26:53.134 --> 03:26:54.435
REMAIN OPPOSED FAVRE. WE ARE
03:26:54.502 --> 03:26:56.103
COMMITTED TO TAKING A CLOSE LOOK
03:26:56.170 --> 03:26:57.905
AT THE AMENDMENTS AND WORKING
03:26:57.972 --> 03:26:59.540
WITH THE OTHER. THANK YOU MUCH.
03:26:59.607 --> 03:27:07.882
LINE SEVEN. THING PARDON ME.
03:27:07.948 --> 03:27:09.984
LINE SEVEN. I APOLOGIZE. WINE
03:27:10.050 --> 03:27:11.218
SEVEN. YOUR WINE IS NOW OPEN.
03:27:11.285 --> 03:27:14.488
THANK YOU. CHRISTIAN SANDAL
03:27:14.555 --> 03:27:16.123
ENVIRONMENTAL COMMITTEE, THE
03:27:16.190 --> 03:27:17.558
VALLEY WOMEN'S CLUB OF THE SAN
03:27:17.625 --> 03:27:19.260
LORENZO VALLEY. I OPPOSE SB 884.
03:27:19.326 --> 03:27:26.534
THANK YOU. BLIND ONE OF FOUR.
03:27:26.600 --> 03:27:29.136
PETE WYLIE WITH RECLAIMING
03:27:29.203 --> 03:27:31.572
POWER, THIS CAMPAIGN ENERGY
03:27:31.639 --> 03:27:32.840
ALLIANCE PROBABLY OPPOSED UNTIL
03:27:32.907 --> 03:27:38.979
AMENDMENTS MADE TO THE BILL. AS
03:27:39.046 --> 03:27:41.015
TO CHAIR THERE IS NO ONE ELSE TO
03:27:41.081 --> 03:27:42.283
SIGNAL THAT THEY WISH TO SPEAK.
03:27:42.349 --> 03:27:44.051
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANYONE ANY
03:27:44.118 --> 03:27:47.087
QUESTIONS FROM MEMBERS. KING
03:27:47.154 --> 03:27:49.390
AROUND SAYING NO. ONE QUESTIONS.
03:27:49.456 --> 03:27:51.192
IS THERE A MOTION TO MOVE THE
03:27:51.258 --> 03:27:56.931
BILL? EMOTIONAL MAKE A MOTION TO
03:27:56.997 --> 03:27:57.898
MOVE THIS BILL. IS THERE A
03:27:57.965 --> 03:28:00.034
SECOND OKAY. WE HAVE A SECOND.
03:28:00.100 --> 03:28:03.003
YOU LIKE TO CLOSE. THANK YOU SO
03:28:03.070 --> 03:28:05.139
MUCH. MR CHAIR. A FEW ITEMS IF
03:28:05.206 --> 03:28:06.307
IT'S ALL RIGHT, AND I'LL BE
03:28:06.373 --> 03:28:08.342
QUICK, MR CHAIR. A LOT OF FOLKS
03:28:08.409 --> 03:28:11.879
WHO WERE CALLING IN TODAY WANT
03:28:11.946 --> 03:28:12.913
I'M JUST GOING TO BE CANDID.
03:28:12.980 --> 03:28:14.849
WANT PACIFIC GAS AND ELECTRIC TO
03:28:14.915 --> 03:28:15.983
DISAPPEAR. THEY ARE RIGHTFULLY
03:28:16.050 --> 03:28:23.390
PISSED. THEY ARE. SET UP. WITH
03:28:23.457 --> 03:28:24.825
THE LACK OF PERFORMANCE BY
03:28:24.892 --> 03:28:25.893
AMERICA'S LARGEST UTILITY. SO AM
03:28:25.960 --> 03:28:29.630
I. I'M TIRED OF SEEING THE DIXIE
03:28:29.697 --> 03:28:34.902
FIRE. THOMAS FIRE, THE CAMPFIRE
03:28:34.969 --> 03:28:36.403
AND THE KINCADE FIRE BURNING
03:28:36.470 --> 03:28:38.005
LITERALLY THOUSANDS OF HOMES AND
03:28:38.072 --> 03:28:39.807
DISRUPTING TENS OF THOUSANDS OF
03:28:39.874 --> 03:28:44.812
LIVES. I'LL JUST BE CANDID. I
03:28:44.879 --> 03:28:46.914
DON'T THINK PACIFIC GAS AND
03:28:46.981 --> 03:28:48.382
ELECTRIC BASED OFF OF WHAT FOLKS
03:28:48.449 --> 03:28:50.417
HAVE TALKED ABOUT WITH A B 10 54
03:28:50.484 --> 03:28:51.819
IS GOING TO BE GOING AWAY.
03:28:51.886 --> 03:28:53.387
THERE'S A SIX STEP PROCESS IN
03:28:53.454 --> 03:28:54.488
WHICH THAT LICENSES REVOKED
03:28:54.555 --> 03:28:57.157
THERE RIGHT NOW ON STEP TWO. FOR
03:28:57.224 --> 03:28:58.259
THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC UTILITIES
03:28:58.325 --> 03:28:59.326
COMMISSION. THERE ARE ALSO HAS
03:28:59.393 --> 03:29:00.728
DEEP CONCERNS IN REGARDS TO
03:29:00.794 --> 03:29:02.396
GREAT CARE SHOULD NOT HAVE TO
03:29:02.463 --> 03:29:06.300
HOOF THIS BILL. I AGREE. WE
03:29:06.367 --> 03:29:07.668
CAN'T GET THAT BILL THROUGH THE
03:29:07.735 --> 03:29:09.536
LEGISLATURE. IF I COULD JUST BE
03:29:09.603 --> 03:29:10.671
HONEST, IT WON'T WORK. I'M ALL
03:29:10.738 --> 03:29:12.673
FOR IT IF WE COULD DO IT, BUT
03:29:12.740 --> 03:29:13.908
CANDIDLY, THAT'S NOT THAT BILL
03:29:13.974 --> 03:29:15.809
WILL NOT GET THROUGH. IN THE
03:29:15.876 --> 03:29:19.513
MEANTIME, THOUGH, WE ARE SEEING
03:29:19.580 --> 03:29:20.948
HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF ACRES
03:29:21.015 --> 03:29:22.116
INTENSIVE THOUSANDS OF HOMES
03:29:22.182 --> 03:29:23.817
BURN BASED OFF OF UTILITY
03:29:23.884 --> 03:29:27.187
WILDFIRES. I AM IN NO WAY,
03:29:27.254 --> 03:29:28.322
SAYING THAT UNDER GROUNDING IS
03:29:28.389 --> 03:29:31.025
THE SILVER BULLET. IF WE LOOK IN
03:29:31.091 --> 03:29:33.093
PG AND E SERIES SERVICE
03:29:33.160 --> 03:29:33.661
TERRITORY, THEY HAVE 100 AND
03:29:33.727 --> 03:29:35.062
6000 MILES OF LINE. IN THE MOST
03:29:35.129 --> 03:29:36.964
HIGH FIRE RISK ZONES, ACCORDING
03:29:37.031 --> 03:29:38.732
TO ALL OF THE EXPERTS. WE SHOULD
03:29:38.799 --> 03:29:39.833
BE UNDER GROUNDING, NOT
03:29:39.900 --> 03:29:41.835
HARDENING. WE'RE PROPOSING
03:29:41.902 --> 03:29:45.773
10,000 MILES OF LINE. THAT
03:29:45.839 --> 03:29:48.008
REMAINS. THERE'S BEEN 96,000
03:29:48.075 --> 03:29:49.677
MILES OF OTHER LINE THAT'S GOING
03:29:49.743 --> 03:29:51.412
TO HAVE TO BE HARDENED AND MADE
03:29:51.478 --> 03:29:53.814
MORE RESILIENT. SO THIS IS NOT
03:29:53.881 --> 03:29:55.549
ONE SIZE FITS ALL APPROACH ON
03:29:55.616 --> 03:29:56.884
THAT INDEPENDENT WATCHDOG THAT'S
03:29:56.951 --> 03:29:58.852
EMBEDDED IN THIS BILL. IT'S A
03:29:58.919 --> 03:29:59.820
TWO STEP PROCESS BY THE WAY.
03:29:59.887 --> 03:30:00.554
THAT INDEPENDENT WATCHDOG
03:30:00.621 --> 03:30:04.158
REPORTS WHO THE OFFICE OF EXCUSE
03:30:04.224 --> 03:30:05.893
ME DO OH, YES. AND THEN THE
03:30:05.960 --> 03:30:10.531
CPUC. EVERY SIX MONTHS. ARE THEY
03:30:10.597 --> 03:30:11.865
MEETING THEIR TIMELINE ON THE
03:30:11.932 --> 03:30:12.766
UNDERGROUND PROJECT? ARE THEY IN
03:30:12.833 --> 03:30:14.468
THEIR BUDGET AND ARE THEY WITHIN
03:30:14.535 --> 03:30:16.670
THEIR SCOPE? THERE'S TWO BITES
03:30:16.737 --> 03:30:18.806
AT THE APPLE, AND BY THE WAY,
03:30:18.872 --> 03:30:19.707
THERE'S ALSO A PUBLIC PROCESS
03:30:19.773 --> 03:30:21.108
EMBEDDED WITHIN THE CPC, WHERE
03:30:21.175 --> 03:30:23.344
THE PUBLIC FOR THE FIRST TIME
03:30:23.410 --> 03:30:25.479
WILL BE ABLE TO COMMENT DIRECTLY
03:30:25.546 --> 03:30:26.780
ON THESE PLANS THAT THESE PLANS
03:30:26.847 --> 03:30:28.215
ARE BEING IMPLEMENTED FOR THE
03:30:28.282 --> 03:30:29.550
FIRST TIME THAT'S NEVER BEEN
03:30:29.616 --> 03:30:30.784
HAPPENED BEFORE. THE LAST THING
03:30:30.851 --> 03:30:34.154
OF THE SAYS AH! AND THE $5
03:30:34.221 --> 03:30:36.090
BILLION WERE HAPPY TO CLEAN UP
03:30:36.156 --> 03:30:38.192
THAT LEGISLATION AS WE MOVE
03:30:38.258 --> 03:30:39.827
FORWARD, MR CHAIR THAT WE HEARD
03:30:39.893 --> 03:30:41.095
FROM SAN DIEGO GAS AND ELECTRIC,
03:30:41.161 --> 03:30:43.497
BUT MY BOTTOM LINE IS THIS. WE
03:30:43.564 --> 03:30:44.798
SHOULD BE USING NON RATE PARA
03:30:44.865 --> 03:30:47.067
FUNDS FIRST TO BE ABLE TO SAVE
03:30:47.134 --> 03:30:48.569
REPAIRS, MONEY THAT'S WHAT THEY
03:30:48.635 --> 03:30:50.304
DESERVE, AND THAT'S WHY THAT'S
03:30:50.371 --> 03:30:51.572
EMBEDDED IN HERE. I THINK IT'S
03:30:51.638 --> 03:30:53.207
COMMON SENSE AND AGAIN, MR.
03:30:53.273 --> 03:30:54.641
CHAIR. THANK YOU FOR YOUR
03:30:54.708 --> 03:30:56.143
ENGAGEMENT IN RESPECTFULLY ASK
03:30:56.210 --> 03:30:57.878
FOR MY VOTE. I'M SORRY ABOUT
03:30:57.945 --> 03:30:58.979
GOING ON SO LONG MOTION IN A
03:30:59.046 --> 03:31:00.748
SECOND, WE'LL CALL THE QUESTION
03:31:00.814 --> 03:31:01.982
TO MOVE. THE BELL TO THE NEXT
03:31:02.049 --> 03:31:04.952
COMMITTEE. ITEM NUMBER 13 SB 884
03:31:05.019 --> 03:31:06.920
. THE MOTION IS DUE PASS TO
03:31:06.987 --> 03:31:08.055
NATURAL RESOURCES WITH THE
03:31:08.122 --> 03:31:09.757
AGREEMENT TO TAKE AMENDMENTS AND
03:31:09.823 --> 03:31:12.192
NATURAL RESOURCES. EDUARDO
03:31:12.259 --> 03:31:15.195
GARCIA GARCIA. I PATERSON
03:31:15.262 --> 03:31:15.629
PATERSON, NOT VOTING
03:31:15.696 --> 03:31:19.033
BAUER-KAHAN. CARILLO. CHAN.
03:31:19.099 --> 03:31:23.037
CUNNINGHAM. PHÊN PANG CRISTINA
03:31:23.103 --> 03:31:28.175
GARCIA. CRISTINA GARCIA, NOT
03:31:28.242 --> 03:31:31.712
VOTING. HOLDEN MAZE MURATSUCHI.
03:31:31.779 --> 03:31:34.548
FOR SEARCHING UP VOTING CORK.
03:31:34.615 --> 03:31:38.519
PRAYERS. SANTIAGO TING. ALL
03:31:38.585 --> 03:31:39.720
RIGHT. WE'LL LEAVE THAT OPEN FOR
03:31:39.787 --> 03:31:43.424
OTHER MEMBERS TO ADD ON. WE HAVE
03:31:43.490 --> 03:31:45.826
TWO MORE BILLS, SENATOR SKINNER.
03:31:45.893 --> 03:31:55.769
SENATE BILL 10 75. I'M READY.
03:31:55.836 --> 03:31:59.606
OKAY. I HAVE A MOTION. ON SENATE
03:31:59.673 --> 03:32:02.709
BILL 10 75. IS THERE A SECOND?
03:32:02.776 --> 03:32:05.045
WE HAVE A SECOND SENATOR. YOU
03:32:05.112 --> 03:32:07.214
AND I LOVE THAT. I'M ACCEPTING
03:32:07.281 --> 03:32:08.048
THE COMMITTEE'S AMENDMENTS
03:32:08.115 --> 03:32:08.949
CLARIFYING HOW RENEWABLE
03:32:09.016 --> 03:32:11.118
HYDROGEN CAN BECOME ELIGIBLE FOR
03:32:11.185 --> 03:32:13.120
THE RPS AND I WILL TURN TO MY
03:32:13.187 --> 03:32:14.888
WITNESSES. BECAUSE I KNOW HOW TO
03:32:14.955 --> 03:32:16.490
READ A POSITIVE AMENDMENTS.
03:32:16.557 --> 03:32:19.526
ALRIGHT MONAGHAN FROM THE STATE
03:32:19.593 --> 03:32:20.828
BUILDING AND CONSTRUCTION TRADES
03:32:20.894 --> 03:32:21.929
AND STEVE CRUZ FROM THE PORTS OF
03:32:21.995 --> 03:32:24.131
OAKLAND, MR CHAIR MEMBERS, SO
03:32:24.198 --> 03:32:26.166
THIS IS MY TIME TO BE BRIEF. UM
03:32:26.233 --> 03:32:27.935
BUILDING TRADES REPRESENT NEARLY
03:32:28.001 --> 03:32:29.937
500,000 WOMEN AND MEN IN THE
03:32:30.003 --> 03:32:30.871
CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY IN
03:32:30.938 --> 03:32:33.507
CALIFORNIA. INCLUDING ABOUT
03:32:33.574 --> 03:32:34.708
73,000 IN OUR STATE APPROVED
03:32:34.775 --> 03:32:36.443
APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS. THE KEY
03:32:36.510 --> 03:32:41.181
PART OF THIS BILL. WE'LL GET
03:32:41.248 --> 03:32:42.382
WE'LL BRING STATE AGENCIES
03:32:42.449 --> 03:32:43.417
TOGETHER TO COLLECTIVELY PURSUE
03:32:43.484 --> 03:32:44.718
FUNDING. FOR THE HYDROGEN
03:32:44.785 --> 03:32:49.790
INFRASTRUCTURE. CREATING
03:32:49.857 --> 03:32:51.925
THOUSANDS OF WELL PAID MIDDLE
03:32:51.992 --> 03:32:53.827
CLASS CAREERS FOR OUR MEN AND
03:32:53.894 --> 03:32:58.532
WOMEN. WE DON'T NEED TO GET INTO
03:32:58.599 --> 03:32:59.933
ALL THE USES OF HYDROGEN. I
03:33:00.000 --> 03:33:01.768
THINK THAT'S BEEN SPOKEN ABOUT
03:33:01.835 --> 03:33:04.538
BEFORE. MAKE NO MISTAKE GREEN
03:33:04.605 --> 03:33:08.842
HYDROGEN. IS A KEY ELEMENT IN
03:33:08.909 --> 03:33:09.910
ADDRESSING THE CHALLENGES OF
03:33:09.977 --> 03:33:12.779
CLIMATE CHANGE. IF YOU'RE NOT
03:33:12.846 --> 03:33:17.784
CONVINCED. I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO
03:33:17.851 --> 03:33:19.553
SAY. BUT THIS IS A BIG PART OF
03:33:19.620 --> 03:33:21.455
MAKING SURE WE CAN REACH OUR
03:33:21.522 --> 03:33:23.557
CLIMATE GOALS. THANK YOU. RIGHT
03:33:23.624 --> 03:33:24.491
GOOD AFTERNOON, MR CHAIRMAN.
03:33:24.558 --> 03:33:26.627
REMEMBER STEVE CRUZ ON BEHALF OF
03:33:26.693 --> 03:33:28.729
THE PORT OF OAKLAND AGAIN? I'LL
03:33:28.795 --> 03:33:29.696
BE BRIEF CENTER. UM JUST WANT TO
03:33:29.763 --> 03:33:30.631
MAKE SURE EMPHASIZE THAT YOU
03:33:30.697 --> 03:33:32.466
KNOW THE PORTS HAS EMBARKED ON
03:33:32.533 --> 03:33:34.334
AMBITIOUS. AN AGGRESSIVE AIR
03:33:34.401 --> 03:33:35.969
QUALITY PLAN TO REDUCE G
03:33:36.036 --> 03:33:37.337
EMISSIONS AT SUPPORTING HIS
03:33:37.404 --> 03:33:39.540
OPERATIONS. HYDROGEN IS ONE OF
03:33:39.606 --> 03:33:41.842
THOSE SOLUTIONS. UM, WE BELIEVE
03:33:41.909 --> 03:33:44.411
THAT S B 10 75 WILL AVAIL US THE
03:33:44.478 --> 03:33:45.445
OPPORTUNITY TO LEVERAGE THE
03:33:45.512 --> 03:33:47.080
FEDERAL FUNDING. AND PROVIDE
03:33:47.147 --> 03:33:49.283
SOME OPPORTUNITIES THROUGH THE
03:33:49.349 --> 03:33:49.783
PLANNING STATE PLANNING
03:33:49.850 --> 03:33:51.618
PROCESSES TO ADVANCE HYDROGEN
03:33:51.685 --> 03:33:52.686
FOR OPERATIONS. AND FOR THOSE
03:33:52.753 --> 03:33:56.657
REASONS WE REQUEST YOUR VOTE.
03:33:56.723 --> 03:33:59.793
LET'S ASK, DO WE HAVE ANY KEY
03:33:59.860 --> 03:34:00.727
PRIMARY WITNESSES AND
03:34:00.794 --> 03:34:02.763
OPPOSITION? PRIMARY WITNESSES
03:34:02.829 --> 03:34:08.368
AND OPPOSITION. D<c.cyan>MATS, MR.</c>
03:34:08.435 --> 03:34:09.903
CHAIR MARK FENCER MAKER ON
03:34:09.970 --> 03:34:10.971
BEHALF OF EARTH JUSTICE. WE
03:34:11.038 --> 03:34:12.239
HAVEN'T OPPOSED UNLESS AMENDED
03:34:12.306 --> 03:34:14.174
POSITION. OUR FOCUS IS REALLY ON
03:34:14.241 --> 03:34:15.275
THE DEFINITION OF CLEAN HYDROGEN
03:34:15.342 --> 03:34:17.144
AND SECTION TWO OF THE BILL. WE
03:34:17.211 --> 03:34:19.046
THINK THAT THAT CAN ALLOW FOR
03:34:19.112 --> 03:34:20.514
FOSSIL FUEL BASED HYDROGEN. WITH
03:34:20.581 --> 03:34:21.748
CREDITS TO CALL IT RENEWABLE OR
03:34:21.815 --> 03:34:25.285
GREEN. WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE
03:34:25.352 --> 03:34:27.387
THE FUTURE OF HYDROGEN AS LONG
03:34:27.454 --> 03:34:29.556
AS IT COMES FROM ZERO EMISSION
03:34:29.623 --> 03:34:30.891
BASED ENERGY, ZERO EMISSION
03:34:30.958 --> 03:34:32.626
PRODUCTION FACILITIES. WE'VE
03:34:32.693 --> 03:34:34.161
BEEN IN CONVERSATIONS WITH THE
03:34:34.228 --> 03:34:35.195
AUTHOR'S OFFICE AND WE LOOK
03:34:35.262 --> 03:34:36.396
FORWARD TO CONTINUING THOSE AND
03:34:36.463 --> 03:34:37.431
HOPEFULLY REMOVE OUR OPPOSITION
03:34:37.497 --> 03:34:38.565
IN THE FUTURE. THANK YOU.
03:34:38.632 --> 03:34:39.499
ALRIGHT, ANYONE ELSE IN
03:34:39.566 --> 03:34:42.469
OPPOSITION? AT LEAST PRIMARY WAY
03:34:42.536 --> 03:34:44.972
TO SEE NO ONE WILL TAKE FOLKS IN
03:34:45.038 --> 03:34:45.439
SUPPORT SUPPORT. NAME
03:34:45.505 --> 03:34:50.277
ORGANIZATION. RIGHT CLICK ON
03:34:50.344 --> 03:34:51.411
BEHALF OF THE CENTER FOR
03:34:51.478 --> 03:34:52.346
TRANSLATION. ENVIRONMENT
03:34:52.412 --> 03:34:56.550
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. MR CHAIR AND
03:34:56.617 --> 03:34:58.352
MEMBERS, TIM CARMODY ON BEHALF
03:34:58.418 --> 03:34:59.353
OF THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL
03:34:59.419 --> 03:35:02.389
JUSTICE LEAGUE IN SUPPORT. MR
03:35:02.456 --> 03:35:04.424
CHAIR MEMBERS, GREGG COOK RIVERS
03:35:04.491 --> 03:35:05.425
IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA POWER
03:35:05.492 --> 03:35:09.196
AGENCY AND SUPPORT. GOOD
03:35:09.263 --> 03:35:10.063
AFTERNOON. CHRISTOPHE LABELLE
03:35:10.130 --> 03:35:11.098
WAS SILICON VALLEY LEADERSHIP
03:35:11.164 --> 03:35:15.869
GROUP IN SUPPORT. HELLO, RYAN
03:35:15.936 --> 03:35:17.337
MCCARTHY ON BEHALF OF THEIR
03:35:17.404 --> 03:35:18.572
PRODUCTS, AQUA HYDRATES AND
03:35:18.639 --> 03:35:19.606
MITSUBISHI POWER AMERICA'S IN
03:35:19.673 --> 03:35:25.312
SUPPORT. KEMP HOUSE FOR SAN
03:35:25.379 --> 03:35:26.380
DIEGO GAS ELECTRIC, SOCAL GAS
03:35:26.446 --> 03:35:29.883
AND SUPPORT. JOSHUA TODAY ON
03:35:29.950 --> 03:35:31.718
BEHALF OF THE UTILITY REFORM
03:35:31.785 --> 03:35:33.487
NETWORK AND SUPPORT OKAY, NO ONE
03:35:33.553 --> 03:35:34.554
STEPPED UP TO REGISTER
03:35:34.621 --> 03:35:36.690
OPPOSITION. SO WE'LL GO TO THE
03:35:36.757 --> 03:35:41.995
PHONE LINES. MR MODERATOR. SB 10
03:35:42.062 --> 03:35:48.035
75 SUPPORT OR OPPOSE. MR CHAIR
03:35:48.101 --> 03:35:49.469
FOR THOSE WHO WISH TO SPEAK IN
03:35:49.536 --> 03:35:50.604
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO SB 10
03:35:50.671 --> 03:35:56.343
75. PLEASE PRESS ONE, THEN ZERO.
03:35:56.410 --> 03:36:01.248
WE WILL FIRST GO TO LINE 54.
03:36:01.315 --> 03:36:02.449
GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIR AND MEMBERS
03:36:02.516 --> 03:36:05.152
MICHAEL DAFT WITH THE PREY AND
03:36:05.218 --> 03:36:06.320
MAKELELE ON BEHALF OF REPUBLIC
03:36:06.386 --> 03:36:08.755
SERVICES IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
03:36:08.822 --> 03:36:14.628
FIND 1 13. GOOD AFTERNOON. JAMIE
03:36:14.695 --> 03:36:16.430
MINOR ON BEHALF OF THEM CE
03:36:16.496 --> 03:36:18.565
SERVING CUSTOMERS AND MARIN
03:36:18.632 --> 03:36:19.533
CONTRA COSTA TO NAPA AND SOLANO
03:36:19.599 --> 03:36:21.735
COUNTY AND SUPPORT THANK YOU.
03:36:21.802 --> 03:36:27.607
BLIND 50. THREE OF THE
03:36:27.674 --> 03:36:28.742
CALIFORNIA ENERGY STORAGE LINES
03:36:28.809 --> 03:36:37.617
AND SUPPORT LINE 1 12. JANIS LYN
03:36:37.684 --> 03:36:38.552
FROM THE GREEN HYDROGEN
03:36:38.618 --> 03:36:46.493
COALITION IN SUPPORT. LINE 1 11.
03:36:46.560 --> 03:36:48.261
MICHAEL BORDERED ON BEHALF OF
03:36:48.328 --> 03:36:49.429
THE UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA IN
03:36:49.496 --> 03:36:54.568
SUPPORT. LINE NINE. JANET COX
03:36:54.634 --> 03:36:55.836
FOR 3, 50 SILICON VALLEY AND
03:36:55.902 --> 03:37:02.075
SUPPORT. AND THERE IS NO ONE
03:37:02.142 --> 03:37:03.276
ELSE WHO SIGNALED THAT THEY WISH
03:37:03.343 --> 03:37:06.146
TO SPEAK. THANK YOU. I'LL BRING
03:37:06.213 --> 03:37:07.214
YOU BACK TO MEMBERS. ANY
03:37:07.280 --> 03:37:09.316
QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? SEEN NO
03:37:09.383 --> 03:37:10.550
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. THERE IS
03:37:10.617 --> 03:37:11.952
A MOTION IN SECOND SENATOR.
03:37:12.018 --> 03:37:14.721
WOULD YOU LIKE CLOTHES? THANK
03:37:14.788 --> 03:37:15.956
YOU. COMMITTEE. I ASKED FOR YOUR
03:37:16.022 --> 03:37:21.328
I VOTE. THANK YOU. 10 75. ITEM
03:37:21.395 --> 03:37:24.898
NUMBER 14 SB 10 75, THE MOTION
03:37:24.965 --> 03:37:26.900
IS DUE PASS TO NATURAL RESOURCES
03:37:26.967 --> 03:37:28.301
WITH THE AGREEMENT TO TAKE
03:37:28.368 --> 03:37:30.070
AMENDMENTS AND NATURAL RESOURCES
03:37:30.137 --> 03:37:31.271
. EDUARDO GARCIA EDUARDO GARCIA,
03:37:31.338 --> 03:37:33.673
I PATERSON PATERSON. I BARRICADE
03:37:33.740 --> 03:37:36.777
KH CARILLO. CHAN. CUNNINGHAM
03:37:36.843 --> 03:37:42.916
PH<c.cyan>. FUNG I, CRISTINA GARCIA.</c>
03:37:42.983 --> 03:37:45.852
CRISTINA GARCIA, I HOLDEN MAZE
03:37:45.919 --> 03:37:48.588
MURATSUCHI MURATSUCHI. I WORK I
03:37:48.655 --> 03:37:50.857
WORK I RAISE PRAISE I SANTIAGO
03:37:50.924 --> 03:37:56.730
TING. THAT'S SEVEN. ALL RIGHT.
03:37:56.797 --> 03:37:58.832
WE'LL KEEP THE ROLE OPEN FOR
03:37:58.899 --> 03:38:02.669
OTHER MEMBERS HAVE MAY'S AYE.
03:38:02.736 --> 03:38:09.276
THAT'S 80. ALRIGHT. LAST BILL OF
03:38:09.342 --> 03:38:13.447
THE AFTERNOON, SENATOR. UNDER
03:38:13.513 --> 03:38:16.817
SENATOR SENATOR HENRY STERN.
03:38:16.883 --> 03:38:20.086
WELCOME FLOOR IS YOURS. I THINK
03:38:20.153 --> 03:38:22.022
I HEARD SOMEONE SAY THERE WAS A
03:38:22.088 --> 03:38:25.926
MOTION. NO THAT I DIDN'T HEAR
03:38:25.992 --> 03:38:26.626
THAT. OKAY IT WASN'T SUCKED
03:38:26.693 --> 03:38:29.930
APOLOGIZE. I WAS HEARING THINGS.
03:38:29.996 --> 03:38:31.932
PLEASE MR CHAIR AND THANK YOU
03:38:31.998 --> 03:38:35.368
MEMBERS FOR THE BLASTING THROUGH
03:38:35.435 --> 03:38:37.337
A LONG HEARING HERE. SP 11 64 IS
03:38:37.404 --> 03:38:41.074
REALLY LOOKING TO. TO ACCELERATE
03:38:41.141 --> 03:38:42.108
OUR ENERGY EFFICIENCY GOALS,
03:38:42.175 --> 03:38:44.077
WHICH IS FRANKLY, THE LEAST
03:38:44.144 --> 03:38:45.879
TALKED ABOUT THE MOST IMPORTANT
03:38:45.946 --> 03:38:47.214
PART OF OUR STATES CLIMATE
03:38:47.280 --> 03:38:48.181
STRATEGY, SPECIFICALLY LOOKING
03:38:48.248 --> 03:38:49.416
AT AIR CONDITIONING AND HOW WELL
03:38:49.483 --> 03:38:50.484
ARE YOUR CONDITIONING UNITS RE
03:38:50.550 --> 03:38:52.552
INSTALLED THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
03:38:52.619 --> 03:38:54.721
IT'S OUR CONTENTION THAT, UM
03:38:54.788 --> 03:38:57.190
BECAUSE OF A LACK OF ATTENTION
03:38:57.257 --> 03:38:59.860
TO DETAIL AND HOW EACH HVAC
03:38:59.926 --> 03:39:02.429
UNITS ARE NOT JUST SOLD, BUT BUT
03:39:02.496 --> 03:39:04.531
INSTALLED THAT THEIR MAJOR
03:39:04.598 --> 03:39:05.499
ENERGY EFFICIENCY LOSSES THAT
03:39:05.565 --> 03:39:08.034
OCCUR OUT IN THE FIELD. UM WE
03:39:08.101 --> 03:39:11.538
KNOW THAT THE C P U. C AND THE C
03:39:11.605 --> 03:39:13.240
E C HAVE HAD PERMITS BEING
03:39:13.306 --> 03:39:15.642
PULLED AS LITTLE AS 10% OF THE
03:39:15.709 --> 03:39:16.843
TIME ON A LOT OF THESE
03:39:16.910 --> 03:39:19.079
INSTALLATION JOBS. UM AND THAT
03:39:19.145 --> 03:39:21.581
CONTRACTORS COMPLY WITH WHAT THE
03:39:21.648 --> 03:39:23.517
STATE'S ENERGY BUILT ENERGY CODE
03:39:23.583 --> 03:39:26.119
IS, WHICH IS TITLED 24 AS LOW AS
03:39:26.186 --> 03:39:27.721
15% OF THE TIME, SO THE LACK OF
03:39:27.787 --> 03:39:29.489
COMPLIANCE CONTRIBUTES DIRECTLY
03:39:29.556 --> 03:39:30.690
TO INCREASE ENERGY DEMAND,
03:39:30.757 --> 03:39:31.691
ESPECIALLY THE HOTTEST AREAS
03:39:31.758 --> 03:39:33.093
WHERE WE CAN LEAST AFFORD IT.
03:39:33.159 --> 03:39:34.794
AND WE'VE WE'VE SEEN THAT
03:39:34.861 --> 03:39:35.896
IMPROPERLY INSTALLED. EACH FACT
03:39:35.962 --> 03:39:36.830
SYSTEMS CAN INCREASE ENERGIES BY
03:39:36.897 --> 03:39:40.634
UP TO 20 OR EVEN 30. SO THE BILL
03:39:40.700 --> 03:39:43.403
PROPOSES A REGISTRY ESSENTIALLY
03:39:43.470 --> 03:39:47.240
TO TRACK SALES INSTALLATION
03:39:47.307 --> 03:39:48.275
MAKING MODEL AND PERMITTING
03:39:48.341 --> 03:39:51.411
AROUND H VAC INSTALLATION. UM
03:39:51.478 --> 03:39:52.879
AND CALIFORNIA AGENCIES HAVE
03:39:52.946 --> 03:39:53.914
ISSUED NUMEROUS REPORTS OF THE
03:39:53.980 --> 03:39:56.049
LAST OVER A DECADE. BUT WE'VE
03:39:56.116 --> 03:39:57.884
REALLY YET TO IMPLEMENT A LOT OF
03:39:57.951 --> 03:39:59.286
THESE SOLUTIONS APPRECIATE THE
03:39:59.352 --> 03:40:00.854
COMMITTEE ANALYSIS, AND SOME OF
03:40:00.921 --> 03:40:03.390
THE ISSUES RAISED. AND I DO SEE
03:40:03.456 --> 03:40:04.991
DOCTOR QUIRKE HERE, SO LOOK
03:40:05.058 --> 03:40:07.727
FORWARD TO DIGGING IN ON SOME OF
03:40:07.794 --> 03:40:09.062
THE PRIVACY CONCERNS THE
03:40:09.129 --> 03:40:09.896
COMMITTEE ANALYSIS, RAISING
03:40:09.963 --> 03:40:11.331
MAYBE SOME OF HIS CONCERNS AS
03:40:11.398 --> 03:40:13.767
WELL. UM, BUT I REALLY THINK ON
03:40:13.833 --> 03:40:14.834
THE WHOLE THIS IMPORTANT MEASURE
03:40:14.901 --> 03:40:16.503
TO MOVE FORWARD. AND I TURNED IT
03:40:16.570 --> 03:40:18.605
OVER TO MY LEAD WITNESSES HERE
03:40:18.672 --> 03:40:20.740
WE HAVE WITH US. MARION
03:40:20.807 --> 03:40:21.908
BERGERSEN WITH NRDC AND TOM
03:40:21.975 --> 03:40:24.210
MEN'S LOW WITH WESTERN STATES
03:40:24.277 --> 03:40:25.211
COUNCIL SHEET METAL WORKERS.
03:40:25.278 --> 03:40:30.383
MUSIC. GOOD AFTERNOON TAMBIÉN
03:40:30.450 --> 03:40:31.384
CELL WITH THE WESTERN STATES
03:40:31.451 --> 03:40:32.752
COUNCIL SHIPMENT OF WORKERS AND
03:40:32.819 --> 03:40:33.687
ALSO WITH THE INTERNATIONAL
03:40:33.753 --> 03:40:34.654
ASSOCIATION OF PLUMBERS,
03:40:34.721 --> 03:40:37.824
MECHANICAL OFFICIALS UM, THIS IS
03:40:37.891 --> 03:40:39.759
REALLY ABOUT ENFORCEMENT. WE CAN
03:40:39.826 --> 03:40:42.028
HAVE THE BEST, YOU KNOW, ENERGY
03:40:42.095 --> 03:40:43.930
CODE REQUIREMENTS, YOU KNOW, IN
03:40:43.997 --> 03:40:45.765
THE WORLD, BUT THEN OUT AND
03:40:45.832 --> 03:40:47.033
FORTH. THEY DON'T REALLY MEAN
03:40:47.100 --> 03:40:48.835
MUCH. AND YOU KNOW, THE STUDIES
03:40:48.902 --> 03:40:50.403
ARE SHOWING THAT THEY'RE NOT
03:40:50.470 --> 03:40:51.838
GETTING ENFORCED. UM AND TWO
03:40:51.905 --> 03:40:54.641
WAYS, YOU KNOW, FOR A FACT
03:40:54.708 --> 03:40:56.676
BACKSIDE NOW ALMOST 90% OF A
03:40:56.743 --> 03:40:57.911
CHECK. REPLACEMENTS ARE DONE
03:40:57.978 --> 03:41:00.313
WITHOUT A PERMIT, SO YOU DON'T
03:41:00.380 --> 03:41:01.615
HAVE ANY ENFORCEMENT. IN THAT
03:41:01.681 --> 03:41:03.383
CASE, AND THEN EVEN WHEN THE
03:41:03.450 --> 03:41:04.985
PERMITS ARE POLLED, WE'RE
03:41:05.051 --> 03:41:06.753
FINDING THAT THE MAJORITY OF
03:41:06.820 --> 03:41:08.922
THESE SYSTEMS ARE NOT INSTALLED
03:41:08.989 --> 03:41:11.925
CORRECTLY AND WE KNOW THE REASON
03:41:11.992 --> 03:41:12.592
WHY THERE WAS THE ENERGY
03:41:12.659 --> 03:41:14.894
COMMISSION JUST HAD A WORKSHOP A
03:41:14.961 --> 03:41:15.695
MONTH AGO AND WITH THE BUILDING
03:41:15.762 --> 03:41:16.763
OFFICIALS AGAIN AND THEY'VE BEEN
03:41:16.830 --> 03:41:18.932
SAYING THIS FOR ALMOST TWO
03:41:18.999 --> 03:41:20.567
DECADES NOW SAID THAT ENERGY
03:41:20.634 --> 03:41:22.802
CODE IS THE LOWEST PRIORITY FOR
03:41:22.869 --> 03:41:25.105
THEM ON ENFORCEMENT, AND MANY OF
03:41:25.171 --> 03:41:27.307
THEM DON'T EVEN LOOK AT
03:41:27.374 --> 03:41:29.175
COMPLIANCE. DOCUMENTS FOR THE
03:41:29.242 --> 03:41:31.044
ENERGY CALLED MUCH LESS TAKE IT.
03:41:31.111 --> 03:41:33.513
AND WE SEE THIS, UM, YOU KNOW,
03:41:33.580 --> 03:41:35.315
ON THE, UM KIND OF ACCEPTANCE
03:41:35.382 --> 03:41:37.083
TEST SIDE FOR ITS FACT SYSTEMS
03:41:37.150 --> 03:41:38.318
REQUIRED TO DO ACCEPTANCE
03:41:38.385 --> 03:41:39.986
TESTING BY CERTIFIED ACCEPTANCE
03:41:40.053 --> 03:41:41.888
TESTERS AND THE PROVIDERS THAT
03:41:41.955 --> 03:41:43.289
EQUALITY OVERSIGHT OF THEM DO
03:41:43.356 --> 03:41:44.457
REPORT EVERY YEAR TO THE ANGER
03:41:44.524 --> 03:41:46.159
COMMISSION. AND THEY EVEN
03:41:46.226 --> 03:41:47.527
FINDING THAT THERE ARE WHOLE
03:41:47.594 --> 03:41:49.062
COUNTIES THAT HAVE NEVER YOU,
03:41:49.129 --> 03:41:50.563
YOU KNOW, USE AN ACCEPTANCE TEST
03:41:50.630 --> 03:41:52.065
. NO ONE SUBMITTED A SINGLE
03:41:52.132 --> 03:41:54.100
ACCEPTANCE TEST REPORT AND LOTS
03:41:54.167 --> 03:41:56.002
OF JURISDICTIONS AS WELL. SO WE
03:41:56.069 --> 03:41:59.739
JUST NO, WE NEED TO MAKE THIS.
03:41:59.806 --> 03:42:02.142
UM AND FORCIBLE BOTH. BY
03:42:02.208 --> 03:42:03.476
REQUIRING PEOPLE TO PULL THE
03:42:03.543 --> 03:42:05.779
PERMITS AND WHEN THEY PULLED THE
03:42:05.845 --> 03:42:06.579
PERMIT TO MAKE SURE IT'S
03:42:06.646 --> 03:42:08.615
ACTUALLY DONE, AND THAT'S WHY WE
03:42:08.682 --> 03:42:09.649
HAVE THESE TWO REGISTRIES. THIS
03:42:09.716 --> 03:42:11.718
THIS GOES AFTER BOTH OF THESE
03:42:11.785 --> 03:42:12.652
PROBLEMS. YOU KNOW THE FIRST
03:42:12.719 --> 03:42:14.788
REGISTRY IS WHEN YOU DO A
03:42:14.854 --> 03:42:15.522
COMPLIANCE DOCUMENT, AND THEY
03:42:15.588 --> 03:42:16.690
CAN BE LIKE 200 COMPLIANCE
03:42:16.756 --> 03:42:19.025
DOCUMENTS FOR A JOB. THAT GETS
03:42:19.092 --> 03:42:20.660
UPLOADED TO A SINGLE STATE
03:42:20.727 --> 03:42:21.561
REGISTRY. SO THE BUILDING
03:42:21.628 --> 03:42:24.364
OFFICIAL JUST HAS TO PUT IN THE
03:42:24.431 --> 03:42:24.898
ADDRESS. HE CAN CONFIRM.
03:42:24.964 --> 03:42:25.899
EVERYTHING HAS BEEN DONE. SO
03:42:25.965 --> 03:42:27.434
THEY HAVE NO EXCUSE NOT TO NOT
03:42:27.500 --> 03:42:29.703
TO CHECK THIS ON. THE SECOND IS
03:42:29.769 --> 03:42:31.471
UNDER PERMANENT SIDE. IF SOMEONE
03:42:31.538 --> 03:42:32.605
DOESN'T PULL A PERMIT, THAT'S
03:42:32.672 --> 03:42:34.207
NOT GOING TO, YOU KNOW. THAT'S
03:42:34.274 --> 03:42:35.875
NOT GOING TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM.
03:42:35.942 --> 03:42:37.277
SO WE NEED AN H BACK REGISTER
03:42:37.343 --> 03:42:38.878
SALES REGISTRY THAT ONE'S PEOPLE
03:42:38.945 --> 03:42:41.414
SELL H VAC UNITS, YOU KNOW, TO
03:42:41.481 --> 03:42:43.316
CUSTOMERS IN THE STATE, YOU KNOW
03:42:43.383 --> 03:42:44.484
THIS ONE AND APPLIED TO SALES
03:42:44.551 --> 03:42:46.653
OUT OF STATE. HE'S STILL TO
03:42:46.720 --> 03:42:48.088
CUSTOMERS IN THE STATE. THEN YOU
03:42:48.154 --> 03:42:49.689
CAN TRACK WHETHER OR NOT THAT
03:42:49.756 --> 03:42:51.091
EQUIPMENT YOU KNOW, EVENTUALLY
03:42:51.157 --> 03:42:54.227
ACTUALLY ALSO SUBMITTED THAT
03:42:54.294 --> 03:42:55.628
WERE REQUIRED DOCUMENTS TO THE
03:42:55.695 --> 03:42:56.996
ENERGY COMMISSION REGISTRY FOR
03:42:57.063 --> 03:42:58.164
THE ENERGY CODE REQUIREMENTS.
03:42:58.231 --> 03:43:00.934
AND BY HAVING THAT ONE REGISTRY
03:43:01.000 --> 03:43:02.836
MAKES OTHER REGISTRY FUNCTIONAL
03:43:02.902 --> 03:43:04.738
, AND THAT'S HOW WE ADDRESS BOTH
03:43:04.804 --> 03:43:07.006
FAILURE TO PULL PERMITS AND
03:43:07.073 --> 03:43:08.274
FAILURE TO ENFORCE ONE PERMITS
03:43:08.341 --> 03:43:13.713
ARE PULLED. THANKS MY NAME IS
03:43:13.780 --> 03:43:14.748
MARION BERGERSEN, SENIOR
03:43:14.814 --> 03:43:16.116
SCIENTIST WITH NATURAL RESOURCES
03:43:16.182 --> 03:43:17.684
DEFENSE COUNCIL'S WERE CO
03:43:17.751 --> 03:43:19.786
SPONSORS OF THIS BILL. I'LL BE
03:43:19.853 --> 03:43:21.287
SUPER BRIEF. I THINK WHAT WE'RE
03:43:21.354 --> 03:43:22.756
REALLY TALKING ABOUT HERE IS A
03:43:22.822 --> 03:43:23.857
MODERN DIGITAL WAY TO TRACK THE
03:43:23.923 --> 03:43:25.725
REQUIREMENTS OF TITLE 24 THE
03:43:25.792 --> 03:43:26.659
ABILITY TO JUST CHECK IF
03:43:26.726 --> 03:43:27.727
CONTRACTORS HAVE PURCHASED
03:43:27.794 --> 03:43:28.795
EQUIPMENT ARE IN FACT PERMITTING
03:43:28.862 --> 03:43:31.397
THEIR WORK. AND GIVEN THAT
03:43:31.464 --> 03:43:33.066
THERE'S MORE THAN 500 BUILDING
03:43:33.133 --> 03:43:34.334
PERMIT DEPARTMENTS IN CALIFORNIA
03:43:34.400 --> 03:43:36.169
IT MAKES SENSE TO DO THIS
03:43:36.236 --> 03:43:36.836
CENTRALLY THROUGH THE CC CREATED
03:43:36.903 --> 03:43:38.338
DIGITAL SYSTEM THAT MAKES IT
03:43:38.404 --> 03:43:40.573
FAST AND EASY. THIS BILL IS NOT
03:43:40.640 --> 03:43:41.541
GOING TO FIX ALL OF THE PROBLEMS
03:43:41.608 --> 03:43:42.642
ASSOCIATED WITH BUILDING CODE
03:43:42.709 --> 03:43:44.410
COMPLIANCE OR QUALITY WORK, BUT
03:43:44.477 --> 03:43:45.812
IT PROVIDES A PRACTICAL CONCRETE
03:43:45.879 --> 03:43:47.647
STEPS THAT WE KNOW WE NEEDED FOR
03:43:47.714 --> 03:43:49.449
A VERY LONG TIME. THAT WILL
03:43:49.516 --> 03:43:51.117
ENABLE THE DATA THAT'S REQUIRED
03:43:51.184 --> 03:43:51.885
FOR ENFORCEMENT AND FOR
03:43:51.951 --> 03:43:53.953
PROVIDING TARGETED TRAINING AND
03:43:54.020 --> 03:43:55.655
EDUCATION FOR CONTRACTORS THAT
03:43:55.722 --> 03:43:57.056
MAYBE AREN'T INSTALLING THIS
03:43:57.123 --> 03:43:58.391
EQUIPMENT CORRECTLY SO THAT WE
03:43:58.458 --> 03:43:59.526
GET THE MOST EFFICIENCY OUT OF
03:43:59.592 --> 03:44:01.494
THIS PRODUCTS. WE HEARD YOUR I
03:44:01.561 --> 03:44:02.796
VOTE ON THIS BILL. THANK YOU.
03:44:02.862 --> 03:44:04.063
THANK YOU VERY MUCH KIÞM
03:44:04.130 --> 03:44:08.067
WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION. THANK
03:44:08.134 --> 03:44:09.469
YOU, MR CHAIR AND MEMBERS DON%
03:44:09.536 --> 03:44:10.904
KEPT KIÞM ACCU KEP KEE AND
03:44:10.970 --> 03:44:12.505
ASSOCIATES ON BEHALF THE AIR
03:44:12.572 --> 03:44:13.072
CONDITIONING, HEATING
03:44:13.139 --> 03:44:14.808
REFRIGERATION INSTITUTE AND
03:44:14.874 --> 03:44:16.876
RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION TO THE
03:44:16.943 --> 03:44:18.344
BILL, AND THAT'S IT'S AMENDED.
03:44:18.411 --> 03:44:19.813
WE CERTAINLY YOU KNOW, HAVE
03:44:19.879 --> 03:44:21.881
CONCERNS AS WELL AND SHARE THE
03:44:21.948 --> 03:44:23.082
CONCERNS OF THE AUTHOR AND THE
03:44:23.149 --> 03:44:24.684
PROPONENTS AROUND A LACK OF
03:44:24.751 --> 03:44:26.052
SUFFICIENT PERMITTING IMPROPER
03:44:26.119 --> 03:44:27.620
INSTALLATION. CERTAINLY THE
03:44:27.687 --> 03:44:29.756
INDUSTRY IS VERY SUPPORTIVE OF
03:44:29.823 --> 03:44:32.192
PERMITTING AND INSTALLATION THAT
03:44:32.258 --> 03:44:34.260
ENSURES SAFETY BOTH FOR OUR THE
03:44:34.327 --> 03:44:35.929
HOMEOWNER FOR YOU KNOW OTHER
03:44:35.995 --> 03:44:38.064
COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES AS WELL AS
03:44:38.131 --> 03:44:39.599
PROTECTION OF THE ENVIRONMENT
03:44:39.666 --> 03:44:42.068
FROM, YOU KNOW, LEAKS. WHAT HAVE
03:44:42.135 --> 03:44:43.236
YOU? UNFORTUNATELY HOWEVER, WE
03:44:43.303 --> 03:44:44.604
DO FEEL VERY STRONGLY THAT
03:44:44.671 --> 03:44:45.772
COMPLIANCE, YOU KNOW, TRACKING
03:44:45.839 --> 03:44:49.342
SYSTEM AND REGISTRY FOR THIS
03:44:49.409 --> 03:44:50.643
EQUIPMENT IS NOT GOING TO
03:44:50.710 --> 03:44:53.580
RESOLVE THOSE CONCERNS. THE
03:44:53.646 --> 03:44:55.381
REALITY IS, AS WAS MENTIONED A
03:44:55.448 --> 03:44:56.883
LOT OF THE ISSUES AROUND
03:44:56.950 --> 03:44:58.985
ENFORCEMENT, LACK OF TRAINING.
03:44:59.052 --> 03:45:00.420
NOT TO MENTION AS YOU CAN
03:45:00.486 --> 03:45:02.755
APPRECIATE. THERE ARE A LOT OF
03:45:02.822 --> 03:45:03.690
OTHER COMPLEXITIES THAT LEAD
03:45:03.756 --> 03:45:05.325
INTO THIS CERTAINLY THE
03:45:05.391 --> 03:45:06.593
EQUIPMENT THAT IS MANUFACTURED
03:45:06.659 --> 03:45:08.394
AS MANUFACTURED NOT JUST FOR THE
03:45:08.461 --> 03:45:10.296
CALIFORNIA MARKET. SAD BUT FROM
03:45:10.363 --> 03:45:12.332
NATIONALS MARKETS INTERNATIONAL
03:45:12.398 --> 03:45:13.366
MARKETS, SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING
03:45:13.433 --> 03:45:15.335
ABOUT, UH, PUTTING TOGETHER
03:45:15.401 --> 03:45:16.236
INFORMATION REPORTING
03:45:16.302 --> 03:45:17.904
INFORMATION, THE INDUSTRY
03:45:17.971 --> 03:45:19.839
DOESN'TNECESSARILY KNOW BECAUSE
03:45:19.906 --> 03:45:20.640
MUCH OF THIS EQUIPMENT IS PUT
03:45:20.707 --> 03:45:21.674
INTO THE MARKET THROUGH
03:45:21.741 --> 03:45:24.143
DISTRIBUTION. WHERE ARE THOSE
03:45:24.210 --> 03:45:25.478
EQUIPMENT? THAT EQUIPMENT IS
03:45:25.545 --> 03:45:27.614
NECESSARILY GOING AND SO THAT
03:45:27.680 --> 03:45:28.581
PRESENTS, YOU KNOW AN ADDED
03:45:28.648 --> 03:45:30.049
LAYER OF COMPLEXITY. AND YOU
03:45:30.116 --> 03:45:31.517
KNOW, BEGS THE QUESTION. IF
03:45:31.584 --> 03:45:32.452
WE'RE HAVING TO DO THIS FOR ALL
03:45:32.518 --> 03:45:33.920
EQUIPMENT THAT DOESN'T EVEN
03:45:33.987 --> 03:45:35.521
NECESSARILY LAND IN CALIFORNIA,
03:45:35.588 --> 03:45:37.090
IS THAT THE RIGHT APPROACH FOR
03:45:37.156 --> 03:45:38.591
THE COST AND BURDEN?
03:45:38.658 --> 03:45:39.859
ADDITIONALLY THERE ARE ALSO
03:45:39.926 --> 03:45:41.561
OTHER COMPLEXITIES WHEN IT COMES
03:45:41.628 --> 03:45:43.630
TO CONSUMERS IN SITUATIONS LIKE
03:45:43.696 --> 03:45:45.098
YOU KNOW, THIS WEEK, WHERE IT'S
03:45:45.164 --> 03:45:47.600
100 PLUS IN SACRAMENTO. WHERE
03:45:47.667 --> 03:45:49.202
AND A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT MAY
03:45:49.269 --> 03:45:50.703
FEEL THEY FIND THEMSELVES IN AN
03:45:50.770 --> 03:45:53.039
EMERGENCY SITUATION AND OFTEN
03:45:53.106 --> 03:45:54.340
ARE STRUGGLING TO FIGURE OUT
03:45:54.407 --> 03:45:56.743
WHAT IS THE QUICKEST WAY THEY
03:45:56.809 --> 03:45:57.677
CAN TURN THAT AROUND AND COSTS
03:45:57.744 --> 03:45:58.878
AS WELL AS THE CHALLENGES WITH
03:45:58.945 --> 03:46:00.280
LOCAL COMPLEXITIES AND
03:46:00.346 --> 03:46:02.282
PERMITTING OFTEN CAN BE, YOU
03:46:02.348 --> 03:46:04.550
KNOW, BARRIERS TO THAT AS WELL.
03:46:04.617 --> 03:46:07.287
AND WHILE THE INDUSTRY IS NOT AT
03:46:07.353 --> 03:46:08.288
ALL YOU KNOW, MAKING, YOU KNOW,
03:46:08.354 --> 03:46:09.188
KIND OF SUGGESTION THAT YOU
03:46:09.255 --> 03:46:10.490
KNOW, THAT'S ENOUGH TO RELY UPON
03:46:10.556 --> 03:46:11.591
NOT DOING THIS. THOSE ARE REAL
03:46:11.658 --> 03:46:13.493
COMPLEXITIES THAT THE BILL DOES
03:46:13.559 --> 03:46:15.061
NOT RESOLVE. YOU KNOW FURTHER.
03:46:15.128 --> 03:46:16.663
WE ALSO AS WE OUTLINED IN OUR
03:46:16.729 --> 03:46:18.631
LETTER ALSO RAISED CONCERNS
03:46:18.698 --> 03:46:21.034
ABOUT PRIVACY RELATED ISSUES,
03:46:21.100 --> 03:46:22.602
NOT ONLY FOR THE BUSINESSES THAT
03:46:22.669 --> 03:46:24.137
WOULD BE REPORTING THIS TYPE OF
03:46:24.203 --> 03:46:25.038
INFORMATION FROM WHICH SALES
03:46:25.104 --> 03:46:26.973
DATA THAT IS, AS YOU CAN
03:46:27.040 --> 03:46:28.741
APPRECIATE. YOU KNOW, MARKET
03:46:28.808 --> 03:46:30.176
INFORMATION AND COMPETITIVE
03:46:30.243 --> 03:46:31.744
INFORMATION. THAT'S CONFIDENTIAL
03:46:31.811 --> 03:46:33.813
BUSINESS INFORMATION. THERE IS
03:46:33.880 --> 03:46:35.481
NO PROVISION THAT HELPS PROTECT
03:46:35.548 --> 03:46:37.450
AGAINST THAT KIND OF PRIVACY.
03:46:37.517 --> 03:46:38.351
CONFIDENTIAL BUSINESS
03:46:38.418 --> 03:46:39.352
INFORMATION FROM THE MARKET
03:46:39.419 --> 03:46:40.553
DYNAMICS STANDPOINT.
03:46:40.620 --> 03:46:42.822
ADDITIONALLY FROM A CONSUMER
03:46:42.889 --> 03:46:44.357
STANDPOINT, PRIVACY
03:46:44.424 --> 03:46:45.825
CONSIDERATIONS ABOUT YOU KNOW
03:46:45.892 --> 03:46:48.061
WHETHER THAT CONSUMER WANTS TO
03:46:48.127 --> 03:46:50.463
BE PUT INTO THIS REGISTRY AS TO
03:46:50.530 --> 03:46:52.165
WHETHER THIS WHERE THIS
03:46:52.231 --> 03:46:54.434
EQUIPMENT IS BEING PLACED. HOW
03:46:54.500 --> 03:46:55.935
THE INSTALLATION WAS DONE. WHAT
03:46:56.002 --> 03:46:58.571
HAVE YOU WHAT I WILL SAY IS AS
03:46:58.638 --> 03:47:02.375
PART OF THE 2021 CC INTEGRATED
03:47:02.442 --> 03:47:04.711
ENERGY POLICY REPORT, A NUMBER
03:47:04.777 --> 03:47:06.012
OF RECOMMENDATIONS WERE PLUGGED
03:47:06.079 --> 03:47:08.448
INTO THAT THAT CERTAINLY THE
03:47:08.514 --> 03:47:10.083
INDUSTRY IS VERY SUPPORTIVE OF
03:47:10.149 --> 03:47:12.251
AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING ITH THE
03:47:12.318 --> 03:47:14.153
C C FOR MANY YEARS AS PART OF
03:47:14.220 --> 03:47:15.755
THAT. THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE,
03:47:15.822 --> 03:47:17.457
HOWEVER, IS NOT ONE OF THOSE
03:47:17.523 --> 03:47:19.492
REALLY. THE ISSUE IS MORE AS THE
03:47:19.559 --> 03:47:21.094
C E C IS OUTLINED, FOCUSING ON
03:47:21.160 --> 03:47:23.196
EXPANDED AUTHORITY YET FOR
03:47:23.262 --> 03:47:24.797
IDENTIFICATION ENFORCEMENT FOR
03:47:24.864 --> 03:47:26.032
PROPER INSTALLATION THROUGH THE
03:47:26.099 --> 03:47:26.933
CONTRACTOR, STATE LICENSING
03:47:27.000 --> 03:47:30.169
BOARD. REQUIRING ALL PERMITS TO
03:47:30.236 --> 03:47:31.904
HAVE A RECORD OF LICENSE AND
03:47:31.971 --> 03:47:33.139
INSTILLED INSTALLATION
03:47:33.206 --> 03:47:34.707
CONTRACTOR'S LICENSE NUMBER
03:47:34.774 --> 03:47:36.776
WORKING WITH CARBON EPA TO
03:47:36.843 --> 03:47:39.212
ENSURE REFRIGERANTS ARE PROPERLY
03:47:39.278 --> 03:47:40.813
RECAPTURED UPON, RECYCLE AND
03:47:40.880 --> 03:47:43.082
RECYCLE UPON REPLACEMENT ONLINE
03:47:43.149 --> 03:47:44.050
PERMITTING, WHICH IS AN
03:47:44.117 --> 03:47:45.118
IMPORTANT ELEMENT IN CERTAINLY
03:47:45.184 --> 03:47:47.086
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE
03:47:47.153 --> 03:47:48.187
INDUSTRY FEELS LIKE, WOULD BE
03:47:48.254 --> 03:47:49.789
HELPFUL. ADDITIONAL TRAINING TO
03:47:49.856 --> 03:47:51.057
ENSURE CONTRACTORS. WHAT HAVE
03:47:51.124 --> 03:47:52.792
YOU HAD THE TRAINING? SO FOR
03:47:52.859 --> 03:47:53.960
THESE REASONS, WE UNFORTUNATELY
03:47:54.027 --> 03:47:55.762
ARE IN A POSITION OF OPPOSING
03:47:55.828 --> 03:47:57.964
THIS AMENDED, BUT WE DO THINK
03:47:58.031 --> 03:47:58.965
ISSUES LIKE APPROACHING ONLINE
03:47:59.032 --> 03:48:01.367
PERMITTING. ADDRESSING ISSUES
03:48:01.434 --> 03:48:02.335
AROUND TRAINING, CONSUMER
03:48:02.402 --> 03:48:04.737
EDUCATION, AS WELL AS INCREASED
03:48:04.804 --> 03:48:07.407
RESOURCES FOR ENFORCEMENT ARE
03:48:07.473 --> 03:48:09.842
THE APPROPRIATE WAY TO GO. THAT
03:48:09.909 --> 03:48:11.477
WOULD HELP MAKE A DENT IN THIS
03:48:11.544 --> 03:48:12.945
ISSUE. SO FOR THOSE REASONS WE
03:48:13.012 --> 03:48:14.547
DO REMAIN RESPECTFULLY OPPOSING
03:48:14.614 --> 03:48:16.115
THIS AMENDED, BUT YOU LOOK
03:48:16.182 --> 03:48:16.649
FORWARD TO CONTINUING THE
03:48:16.716 --> 03:48:17.617
CONVERSATION. THANK YOU. THANK
03:48:17.683 --> 03:48:23.022
YOU VERY MUCH. WE HAVE. I THINK
03:48:23.089 --> 03:48:25.158
I CALLED UP FOLKS FOR SUPPORT
03:48:25.224 --> 03:48:26.759
OPPOSITION. OKAY, SUPPORT FOLKS
03:48:26.826 --> 03:48:28.561
IN THE ROOM IN SUPPORT OF THE
03:48:28.628 --> 03:48:31.764
MEASURE. GOOD AFTERNOON JUSTIN
03:48:31.831 --> 03:48:34.133
PENS ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
03:48:34.200 --> 03:48:34.767
STATE ASSOCIATION OF ELECTRIAL
03:48:34.834 --> 03:48:36.169
WORKERS, WESTERN STATES COUNCIL
03:48:36.235 --> 03:48:38.171
OF SHEET METAL WORKERS AND THE
03:48:38.237 --> 03:48:38.771
CALIFORNIA STATE PIPE TRADES
03:48:38.838 --> 03:48:39.605
COUNCIL. N SUPPORT THANK YOU.
03:48:39.672 --> 03:48:42.809
THANK YOU. JOSHUA TODAY ON
03:48:42.875 --> 03:48:44.610
BEHALF OF THE UTILITY REFORM
03:48:44.677 --> 03:48:47.747
NETWORK AND SUPPORT. MARK
03:48:47.814 --> 03:48:48.848
FINSTER MAKER ON BEHALF OF
03:48:48.915 --> 03:48:53.119
JUSTICE AND SUPPORT. THOSE WOMEN
03:48:53.186 --> 03:48:55.788
SPEAK IN OPPOSITION. REGISTER
03:48:55.855 --> 03:48:58.291
OPPOSITION TO THE MEASURE. THEY
03:48:58.357 --> 03:49:00.159
SAID NO ONE WILL GO TO THE
03:49:00.226 --> 03:49:02.695
MODERATOR. MODERATOR SB 11, 64
03:49:02.762 --> 03:49:12.371
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION. BECAME MR
03:49:12.438 --> 03:49:13.573
CHAIR FOR THOSE WHO WISH TO
03:49:13.639 --> 03:49:15.408
SPEAK OF SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION
03:49:15.475 --> 03:49:18.044
TO THIS BILL, PLEASE PRESS 10 AT
03:49:18.111 --> 03:49:22.281
THIS TIME, ONE AND ZERO. WE'RE
03:49:22.348 --> 03:49:34.794
GOING TO GO TO LINE ONE HAND.
03:49:34.861 --> 03:49:38.898
LINE 1 10 YEAR LINE IS NOW OPEN.
03:49:38.965 --> 03:49:40.533
GOOD AFTERNOON, DANIEL BRAD ON
03:49:40.600 --> 03:49:41.667
BEHALF OF SIERRA CLUB,
03:49:41.734 --> 03:49:42.668
CALIFORNIA AND SUPPORT THANK
03:49:42.735 --> 03:49:48.708
YOU. LINE 45. WENDY REYNOLDS
03:49:48.774 --> 03:49:50.076
FROM CALIFORNIA ADVISORS ON
03:49:50.143 --> 03:49:51.344
BEHALF OF SMUD SACRAMENTO
03:49:51.410 --> 03:49:52.545
MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT AND
03:49:52.612 --> 03:49:58.951
SUPPORT LINE ONE OF 14. GET
03:49:59.018 --> 03:50:00.419
AFTERNOON 10 MEMBERS PRETTY
03:50:00.486 --> 03:50:01.654
GOOD. AND ON BEHALF OF THE
03:50:01.721 --> 03:50:03.422
CALIFORNIA BUILDING OFFICIALS IN
03:50:03.489 --> 03:50:05.024
SUPPORT OF THE BILL. THANK YOU.
03:50:05.091 --> 03:50:11.030
LINE 109. MY KANDINSKY FOR THE
03:50:11.097 --> 03:50:11.597
CONTRACTORS, STATE LICENSE,
03:50:11.664 --> 03:50:16.736
SUPPORT AND SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
03:50:16.802 --> 03:50:18.004
MR CHAIR. THERE IS NO ONE ELSE
03:50:18.070 --> 03:50:19.839
TO SIGNAL THAT THEY WISH TO
03:50:19.906 --> 03:50:23.409
SPEAK. THANK YOU. QUESTIONS
03:50:23.476 --> 03:50:24.877
COMMENTS FROM COLLEAGUES, MR
03:50:24.944 --> 03:50:27.880
MASON UM, THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.
03:50:27.947 --> 03:50:31.984
I, UM. HAVE A RECOMMENDATION
03:50:32.051 --> 03:50:33.186
FROM STAFF TO SUPPORT THIS. BUT
03:50:33.252 --> 03:50:36.022
AFTER LISTENING TO THE
03:50:36.088 --> 03:50:37.757
OPPOSITION. UM AND THINKING
03:50:37.823 --> 03:50:40.393
ABOUT THE DISTRICT THAT I SERVE
03:50:40.459 --> 03:50:43.429
. UM WHICH WE ARE NOW IN JUNE,
03:50:43.496 --> 03:50:44.530
AND WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO JULY
03:50:44.597 --> 03:50:46.432
AND AUGUST AND THERE WILL BE
03:50:46.499 --> 03:50:48.067
DAYS WHEN IT WILL NOT JUST GET
03:50:48.134 --> 03:50:50.203
NORTH OF 120 BUT CAN GET EVEN
03:50:50.269 --> 03:50:53.072
CLOSER TO 130. AND IMAGINE A
03:50:53.139 --> 03:50:56.042
SITUATION AFTER THIS BILLS IN IN
03:50:56.108 --> 03:50:59.579
IN IN LAW, AND, UH, YOU AND YOU
03:50:59.645 --> 03:51:00.880
HAVE AN EIGHT YEAR OLD WOMAN
03:51:00.947 --> 03:51:02.014
WHOSE AIR CONDITIONER BREAKS
03:51:02.081 --> 03:51:04.850
DOWN. IN THE CONTRACTOR SHOWS UP
03:51:04.917 --> 03:51:06.085
AND SAYS, HEY, WE CAN REPLACE
03:51:06.152 --> 03:51:08.354
YOUR H V. A C UNIT, BUT IT'S
03:51:08.421 --> 03:51:10.256
GONNA TAKE A WEEK TO GET THE
03:51:10.323 --> 03:51:12.725
CITY OF PALM DESERT TO, UH, TO
03:51:12.792 --> 03:51:13.993
AGREE OR TO GO THROUGH THE
03:51:14.060 --> 03:51:17.530
PERMITTING PROCESS. UM YOU CAN'T
03:51:17.597 --> 03:51:19.932
DO SMALL AIR CONDITIONERS TO TRY
03:51:19.999 --> 03:51:21.500
TO FIX FIX THIS. THERE'S NOT A
03:51:21.567 --> 03:51:23.936
FIX FOR IT. HOW DOES THIS BILL
03:51:24.003 --> 03:51:26.472
ADDRESS CIRCUMSTANCES LIKE THAT
03:51:26.539 --> 03:51:27.740
? I MEAN, IF THERE'S SOME SORT
03:51:27.807 --> 03:51:29.542
OF PROCESS TO STREAMLINE IT TO
03:51:29.609 --> 03:51:31.877
WHERE IT CAN BE DONE WITHIN NOT
03:51:31.944 --> 03:51:32.712
DAYS, BUT HOURS THAN THAN I'M
03:51:32.778 --> 03:51:34.814
I'M GONNA BE SUPPORTIVE, BUT IT
03:51:34.880 --> 03:51:35.781
COULD BE PROBLEMATIC FOR
03:51:35.848 --> 03:51:38.718
COMMUNITIES LIKE MINE. WHERE IT
03:51:38.784 --> 03:51:41.120
YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE TWO OR
03:51:41.187 --> 03:51:42.321
THREE DAYS OF OVER 100 DEGREE
03:51:42.388 --> 03:51:43.689
WEATHER. YOU HAVE MONTHS OF OVER
03:51:43.756 --> 03:51:45.424
100 DEGREE WEATHER, SO I WANTED
03:51:45.491 --> 03:51:46.993
TO ASK THAT QUESTION. IF THERE'S
03:51:47.059 --> 03:51:49.262
A SOME RELIEF THERE, IF NOT, I
03:51:49.328 --> 03:51:55.534
CAN'T BE SUPPORTIVE OF IT TODAY.
03:51:55.601 --> 03:51:59.238
DO YOU MIND? BECAUSE I ACTUALLY
03:51:59.305 --> 03:52:01.274
I SHARE THIS SENSITIVITIES. UM
03:52:01.340 --> 03:52:03.609
SAN FERNANDO VALLEY IS NOT AS
03:52:03.676 --> 03:52:05.678
HARD AS AS YOUR VALLEY, BUT IT'S
03:52:05.745 --> 03:52:07.947
UP THERE. UM WE'RE IN THE URBAN
03:52:08.014 --> 03:52:09.382
HEAT ISLAND WERE WELL OVER 100
03:52:09.448 --> 03:52:12.551
TODAY. UM YOU KNOW, WE HIT WE
03:52:12.618 --> 03:52:15.554
HIT 1 21 IN CANOGA PARK. SO, UM
03:52:15.621 --> 03:52:21.861
THE. I HAVE NO INTENTION FOR
03:52:21.927 --> 03:52:24.830
THIS BILL TO SORT OF STAND IN
03:52:24.897 --> 03:52:26.699
THE WAY OF THOSE KINDS OF FIXES
03:52:26.766 --> 03:52:27.867
, REPAIRS AND REALLY GETTING
03:52:27.933 --> 03:52:28.868
THAT WORK DONE INSTANTANEOUSLY
03:52:28.934 --> 03:52:29.902
BECAUSE WHEN IT BREAKS YOU CAN'T
03:52:29.969 --> 03:52:32.571
WAIT. UM AND IF THERE'S I MEAN,
03:52:32.638 --> 03:52:35.775
MY UNDERSTANDING IS AND MAYBE MY
03:52:35.841 --> 03:52:37.910
SPONSORS CAN COMMENT. I THINK
03:52:37.977 --> 03:52:39.612
IT'S INTENDED MORE SO TO BE A
03:52:39.679 --> 03:52:41.414
TRACKING DATABASE IN TERMS OF
03:52:41.480 --> 03:52:43.282
WHAT'S INSTALLED, AS OPPOSED TO
03:52:43.349 --> 03:52:44.283
A NEW PERMITTING REQUIREMENTS AS
03:52:44.350 --> 03:52:49.188
TO UM, LIKE A NEW A NEW HURDLE
03:52:49.255 --> 03:52:50.589
THAT YOU'VE GOT TO JUMP OVER TO
03:52:50.656 --> 03:52:53.059
GET THAT UNIT INSTALLED SO MY
03:52:53.125 --> 03:52:55.494
SENSE IS THAT I WANT TO KICK THE
03:52:55.561 --> 03:52:58.664
TIRES ON THIS, TOO. THAT WE'RE
03:52:58.731 --> 03:53:00.866
NOT GOING TO HAVE TO GO, THEN
03:53:00.933 --> 03:53:03.169
BACK THROUGH CITY, BUT THAT BUT
03:53:03.235 --> 03:53:05.271
THAT WHEN THAT UNITS INSTALLED,
03:53:05.338 --> 03:53:06.972
YOU'LL KNOW MAKE MODEL YOU'LL BE
03:53:07.039 --> 03:53:08.474
ABLE TO LOOK IT UP IN THE
03:53:08.541 --> 03:53:10.443
LICENSING DATABASE AND, YOU KNOW
03:53:10.509 --> 03:53:11.944
, SEE SLB THE CITY BUILDING
03:53:12.011 --> 03:53:12.945
OFFICIALS WILL HAVE ACCESS TO
03:53:13.012 --> 03:53:16.515
THAT. BUT THIS IS MORE ABOUT A C
03:53:16.582 --> 03:53:17.416
E. C TRACKING DATABASE, AS
03:53:17.483 --> 03:53:19.685
OPPOSED TO A NEW PERMITTING
03:53:19.752 --> 03:53:21.921
HURDLE, BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE
03:53:21.987 --> 03:53:24.123
YOU TO COME BECAUSE I DON'T WANT
03:53:24.190 --> 03:53:25.124
TO PASS ANY LEGISLATION THAT'S
03:53:25.191 --> 03:53:26.392
GOING TO MAKE IT HARDER TO DEAL
03:53:26.459 --> 03:53:27.827
WITH THAT AS WELL. ABSOLUTELY
03:53:27.893 --> 03:53:29.528
AND IT'S BUT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING
03:53:29.595 --> 03:53:31.530
ABOUT IS AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT
03:53:31.597 --> 03:53:32.098
ISSUE THAT THIS BILL DOESN'T
03:53:32.164 --> 03:53:33.432
ADDRESS. THIS BILL DOESN'T ADD
03:53:33.499 --> 03:53:35.634
ANY NEW PERMITTING REQUIREMENTS.
03:53:35.701 --> 03:53:37.937
AT ANY, YOU KNOW NEW DELAYS IN
03:53:38.003 --> 03:53:40.106
THAT PERMITTING PROCESS. IT'S
03:53:40.172 --> 03:53:42.341
JUST ALL IT IS WHEN SOMEONE BUYS
03:53:42.408 --> 03:53:44.477
THE EQUIPMENT. YOU KNOW AS SOME
03:53:44.543 --> 03:53:46.879
POINT, IT'S GOING TO SHOW UP IN
03:53:46.946 --> 03:53:47.646
THE SYSTEM THAT ALL THEIR
03:53:47.713 --> 03:53:49.615
DOCUMENTATION THEY NEEDED TO DO
03:53:49.682 --> 03:53:50.850
THAT IS ALREADY REQUIRED BY LAW
03:53:50.916 --> 03:53:52.985
HAS BEEN HAS BEEN PERFORMED. BUT
03:53:53.052 --> 03:53:55.955
IT DOESN'T YOU KNOW THE QUESTION
03:53:56.021 --> 03:53:58.357
ABOUT HOW DO WE MAKE PERMANENT
03:53:58.424 --> 03:53:59.125
FASTER? WELL, IF ANYTHING, THIS
03:53:59.191 --> 03:53:59.959
WILL MAKE PERMANENT FASTER
03:54:00.025 --> 03:54:01.527
BECAUSE IT WILL MAKE THE ACTUAL
03:54:01.594 --> 03:54:02.528
BUILDING OFFICIALS JOB AND
03:54:02.595 --> 03:54:04.463
SIGNING OFF. AND INSTALLATION
03:54:04.530 --> 03:54:06.232
QUICKER BECAUSE HE'LL JUST HAVE
03:54:06.298 --> 03:54:07.700
TO LIKE, YOU KNOW, HE DOESN'T
03:54:07.767 --> 03:54:09.368
HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL THE
03:54:09.435 --> 03:54:10.736
DOCUMENTATION HIMSELF, BUT HE'S
03:54:10.803 --> 03:54:12.304
ALREADY REQUIRED TO GET THAT
03:54:12.371 --> 03:54:12.938
EXPECTATION, SO IT DOESN'T
03:54:13.005 --> 03:54:15.641
CHANGE ANY CURRENT PROCESS. BUT
03:54:15.708 --> 03:54:16.709
WE AGREE THAT THAT PROCESS IN
03:54:16.776 --> 03:54:17.576
SOME JURISDICTIONS SHOULD BE.
03:54:17.643 --> 03:54:20.813
BUT IF I MAY I THINK MAYBE
03:54:20.880 --> 03:54:22.648
UNDERLYING YOUR POINT IS THAT
03:54:22.715 --> 03:54:26.852
FOR THE 90% OR SO OF THE MARKET.
03:54:26.919 --> 03:54:28.621
OR MAYBE 85% OR SO ARE THE
03:54:28.687 --> 03:54:30.489
MARKET. THAT'S NOT GOING THROUGH
03:54:30.556 --> 03:54:33.959
THAT PERMITTING PROCESS AT ALL.
03:54:34.026 --> 03:54:36.295
WE DON'T WANT TO SAY WE DON'T WE
03:54:36.362 --> 03:54:37.329
DON'T WANT TO ACCOMMODATE, YOU
03:54:37.396 --> 03:54:38.431
KNOW, NONCOMPLIANT BEHAVIOR OUT
03:54:38.497 --> 03:54:42.435
THERE. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, UM
03:54:42.501 --> 03:54:45.271
IF THAT IS THAT'S CURRENTLY SORT
03:54:45.337 --> 03:54:46.972
OF OFF THE BOOKS THE FASTEST WAY
03:54:47.039 --> 03:54:48.340
PEOPLE ARE PURSUING THESE THINGS
03:54:48.407 --> 03:54:49.608
. HOW DO WE REMEDY THAT? AND HOW
03:54:49.675 --> 03:54:51.544
DO WE MAKE SURE THAT THAT 80
03:54:51.610 --> 03:54:53.512
YEAR OLD GRANDMOTHER IS NOT A
03:54:53.579 --> 03:54:55.981
GETTING, YOU KNOW? HELD OVER A
03:54:56.048 --> 03:54:57.249
BARREL BY A SHADY CONTRACTOR
03:54:57.316 --> 03:54:58.884
REALLY SHOULDN'T BE DOING THE
03:54:58.951 --> 03:55:01.854
WORK, BUT GETS IT DONE THAT DAY
03:55:01.921 --> 03:55:03.689
, MR. AMAZING DOES THAT ANSWER
03:55:03.756 --> 03:55:05.891
YOUR QUESTION, OR IT DOES. BUT
03:55:05.958 --> 03:55:08.994
IF I GET IF I CAN JUST FOR A
03:55:09.061 --> 03:55:10.329
SECOND AND I'M AGAIN I KNOW
03:55:10.396 --> 03:55:12.865
THAT'S LATE IN THE DAY. BUT I
03:55:12.932 --> 03:55:15.000
MEAN AGAIN, 90% I GUESS. IN
03:55:15.067 --> 03:55:16.602
FACT, I'VE I'VE KNOWN FOUR OR
03:55:16.669 --> 03:55:18.003
FIVE PEOPLE OVER THE LAST YEAR
03:55:18.070 --> 03:55:20.306
WHO HAVE GOTTEN THEIR H V A. C S
03:55:20.372 --> 03:55:21.507
REPLACED AND MY GUESS IS NONE OF
03:55:21.574 --> 03:55:23.943
THEM GOT GOT IT PERMITTED. UM
03:55:24.009 --> 03:55:25.311
AND, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY NOBODY
03:55:25.377 --> 03:55:26.846
GETS ME IN TROUBLE WITH THE CITY
03:55:26.912 --> 03:55:28.447
BRANCH MIRAGE, BUT I REPLACED MY
03:55:28.514 --> 03:55:29.815
WATER HEATER AND DIDN'T PULL A
03:55:29.882 --> 03:55:31.450
PERMIT. UM, AND I BET A WHOLE
03:55:31.517 --> 03:55:33.519
BUNCH. YEAH I BET A WHOLE BUNCH
03:55:33.586 --> 03:55:34.687
OF Y'ALL, UM THAT'S THE SAME
03:55:34.753 --> 03:55:35.855
SITUATION. YOU PROBABLY WENT
03:55:35.921 --> 03:55:37.656
DOWN AND GOT IT HOME DEPOT AND
03:55:37.723 --> 03:55:39.291
THROUGH THE THING IN BECAUSE
03:55:39.358 --> 03:55:41.160
IT'S ONLY A COUPLE OF THINGS AND
03:55:41.227 --> 03:55:43.062
WHAT I WON'T. I WON'T. I DON'T
03:55:43.128 --> 03:55:47.533
KNOW. UH SO I'D LOOK THERE IS
03:55:47.600 --> 03:55:49.034
THE THERE IS THE LAW. BUT THEN
03:55:49.101 --> 03:55:50.669
THERE'S ALSO LIKE HEY, I NEED
03:55:50.736 --> 03:55:51.770
HOT WATER. UM, THERE'S THE LAW,
03:55:51.837 --> 03:55:53.706
AND THERE'S LIKE I'M NOT WAITING
03:55:53.772 --> 03:55:56.175
A WEEK TO GET A PERMIT IN 130
03:55:56.242 --> 03:55:57.543
DEGREE TEMPERATURE TO GET MY H V
03:55:57.610 --> 03:56:00.379
A C UNIT PUT IN AND IT MIGHT BE
03:56:00.446 --> 03:56:03.048
A FINE H V. A C UNIT. BUT THEN
03:56:03.115 --> 03:56:03.716
ALL OF A SUDDEN HAVING A SYSTEM
03:56:03.782 --> 03:56:05.684
THAT'S TRACKING AND THEN YOU GOT
03:56:05.751 --> 03:56:06.685
THE CONTRACT THAT WANTS TO GET
03:56:06.752 --> 03:56:08.687
IN TROUBLE. YOU GOT YOURSELF
03:56:08.754 --> 03:56:09.555
SOME PROBLEMS, SO I MEAN,
03:56:09.622 --> 03:56:10.990
THERE'S REAL LIFE SITUATION HERE
03:56:11.056 --> 03:56:12.191
THAT THAT I THINK CAN BECOME
03:56:12.258 --> 03:56:14.226
PROBLEMATIC. SO UM, THANK YOU.
03:56:14.293 --> 03:56:15.294
MR VICE CHAIR HAS SOME
03:56:15.361 --> 03:56:17.897
QUESTIONS. I WANT TO PICK YOU
03:56:17.963 --> 03:56:20.232
BACK A BIT. ON WHAT? MR MAYS WAS
03:56:20.299 --> 03:56:24.370
SAYING, I MEAN, I'M STILL VERY
03:56:24.436 --> 03:56:25.604
VAGUE ON WHETHER OR NOT THIS
03:56:25.671 --> 03:56:27.973
GETS IN THE WAY. WELL, OKAY, YOU
03:56:28.040 --> 03:56:29.808
SHAKE YOUR HEAD? NO. BUT WHAT?
03:56:29.875 --> 03:56:34.980
HOW DO I KNOW THAT? AUGUST DOES
03:56:35.047 --> 03:56:36.982
IS IT CREATES TWO REGISTRIES TO
03:56:37.049 --> 03:56:38.851
TRACK COMPLIANCE WITH WHAT
03:56:38.918 --> 03:56:40.886
PEOPLE ALREADY REQUIRED TO DO BY
03:56:40.953 --> 03:56:41.754
LAW THEY'RE REQUIRED TO DO BY
03:56:41.820 --> 03:56:44.056
LAW IS SET BY THE LOCAL
03:56:44.123 --> 03:56:45.424
JURISDICTION AND BY STATE LAW,
03:56:45.491 --> 03:56:46.559
AND THIS DOESN'T CHANGE THAT. IT
03:56:46.625 --> 03:56:49.595
JUST MAKES SURE THAT AT THE END
03:56:49.662 --> 03:56:51.497
OF THE DAY AFTER THE FACT AFTER
03:56:51.564 --> 03:56:53.198
IT'S BEEN INSTALLED THAT THAT
03:56:53.265 --> 03:56:55.901
PEOPLE CAN GO AND CHECK THAT ALL
03:56:55.968 --> 03:56:57.403
THE CORRECT ENERGY CODE
03:56:57.469 --> 03:56:59.204
COMPLIANCE DOCUMENTS HAVE BEEN
03:56:59.271 --> 03:57:00.205
DONE ACCEPTANCE TESTING, SO WE
03:57:00.272 --> 03:57:01.440
KNOW THESE THINGS ARE GOING TO
03:57:01.507 --> 03:57:02.708
WORK. CORRECTLY AND HAVE THE
03:57:02.775 --> 03:57:04.910
EFFICIENCY THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED
03:57:04.977 --> 03:57:06.612
TO. CAN I JUST ADD TO THIS I
03:57:06.679 --> 03:57:07.513
MEAN, IN GENERAL, IT DOESN'T
03:57:07.580 --> 03:57:09.548
TAKE VERY LONG TO GET THE PERMIT
03:57:09.615 --> 03:57:10.683
LIKE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT
03:57:10.749 --> 03:57:11.784
BUILDING OFFICES GIVE YOU
03:57:11.850 --> 03:57:12.952
QUICKLY. NO ONE'S GOING TO TELL
03:57:13.018 --> 03:57:14.620
YOU NOT TO PUT A NEW AIR
03:57:14.687 --> 03:57:15.487
CONDITIONER HOUSE. THE
03:57:15.554 --> 03:57:16.655
ACCEPTANCE TESTING WHERE THEY GO
03:57:16.722 --> 03:57:18.390
IN AFTERWARDS AND THAT CAN BE
03:57:18.457 --> 03:57:19.625
TIMES YOU CAN DO AN EMERGENCY
03:57:19.692 --> 03:57:21.193
REPLACEMENT. AND THEN TWO WEEKS
03:57:21.260 --> 03:57:22.828
LATER YOU HAVE THE PERSON COME
03:57:22.895 --> 03:57:23.862
IN AND TEST YOUR DUCKS. MAKE
03:57:23.929 --> 03:57:25.097
SURE THEY'RE ACTUALLY NOT
03:57:25.164 --> 03:57:26.131
LEAKING. TEST YOUR REFRIGERANT
03:57:26.198 --> 03:57:27.766
LITTLE LEVELS. MAKE SURE THE
03:57:27.833 --> 03:57:28.534
AIRFLOW ACTUALLY WORKS. THAT'S
03:57:28.601 --> 03:57:30.202
THE VALUE OF PERMITS AND TO MAKE
03:57:30.269 --> 03:57:32.037
SURE THAT IT'S FUNCTIONING AS
03:57:32.104 --> 03:57:33.105
DESIGNED AND YOU DON'T WANT TO
03:57:33.172 --> 03:57:34.006
FOREGO THAT. IT CAN HAPPEN
03:57:34.073 --> 03:57:36.075
AFTERWARDS. AND IT DOES AGAIN.
03:57:36.141 --> 03:57:37.943
YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE EFFECT OF
03:57:38.010 --> 03:57:39.545
THIS BILL IS THAT IT'S GOING TO
03:57:39.612 --> 03:57:40.746
BE AFTER THE ACT. OF PUTTING IT
03:57:40.813 --> 03:57:43.682
IN IT'S NOT GOING TO GET IN THE
03:57:43.749 --> 03:57:46.986
WAY OF SOMEBODY. SECONDLY THE
03:57:47.052 --> 03:57:48.187
QUESTION THAT WAS RAISED ABOUT
03:57:48.253 --> 03:57:51.790
PRIVACY. HOW ARE YOU PROTECTING
03:57:51.857 --> 03:57:55.160
THAT? I MEAN IT. THIS IS ADDRESS
03:57:55.227 --> 03:57:59.031
NAMES. WHAT'S IN THEIR HOUSES?
03:57:59.098 --> 03:58:01.800
WELL AND IF I MAY, AND THEN I'LL
03:58:01.867 --> 03:58:03.335
COME BACK, AND I KNOW A FEW
03:58:03.402 --> 03:58:04.470
OTHER MEMBERS HAD THAT QUESTION.
03:58:04.536 --> 03:58:05.604
AND I APPRECIATE THE COMMITTEE
03:58:05.671 --> 03:58:09.041
ANALYSIS DIGGING IN, UM VERY
03:58:09.108 --> 03:58:11.710
OPEN TO GETTING MORE GRANULAR AS
03:58:11.777 --> 03:58:12.945
TO WHAT'S IN WHAT'S OUT. I WILL
03:58:13.012 --> 03:58:15.547
READILY CONCEDE THAT WELL, THE
03:58:15.614 --> 03:58:17.249
BILL RIGHT NOW SAYS SHALL ONLY
03:58:17.316 --> 03:58:18.550
INCLUDE THE PERSONAL INFORMATION
03:58:18.617 --> 03:58:20.853
THAT'S NECESSARY TO CERTIFY THE
03:58:20.919 --> 03:58:22.488
PERMITTING COMPLETION, SO THAT
03:58:22.554 --> 03:58:23.589
WOULDN'T INCLUDE ADDRESS, FOR
03:58:23.656 --> 03:58:26.692
INSTANCE, OR NAME BUT IT DOESN'T
03:58:26.759 --> 03:58:27.926
EXPLICITLY SAY THAT IN THE BILL,
03:58:27.993 --> 03:58:29.828
IT JUST SAYS ONLY THAT WHICH IS
03:58:29.895 --> 03:58:32.197
NECESSARY. SO IF WE NEED TO
03:58:32.264 --> 03:58:32.765
FLESH THAT OUT, I THINK IT
03:58:32.831 --> 03:58:34.700
PROBABLY BE A SMART IDEA. OKAY
03:58:34.767 --> 03:58:36.669
AGAIN. I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED. I
03:58:36.735 --> 03:58:37.703
MEAN, YOU'RE GONNA PUT A
03:58:37.770 --> 03:58:38.837
REGISTRY TOGETHER WITH NOTHING
03:58:38.904 --> 03:58:40.606
IN IT. OH NO, THE REPS YOU HAVE
03:58:40.673 --> 03:58:42.508
MAKE MODEL. UM AND THEN THE
03:58:42.574 --> 03:58:44.410
PERMIT ITSELF SO IT WOULDN'T
03:58:44.476 --> 03:58:45.611
HAVE THE YOU KNOW YOU COULD
03:58:45.678 --> 03:58:47.646
REDACT THAT INFORMATION IN OTHER
03:58:47.713 --> 03:58:49.415
WORDS, AND WE CAN EVEN I'M EVEN
03:58:49.481 --> 03:58:50.916
TALKING ABOUT THE PERMIT ITSELF.
03:58:50.983 --> 03:58:55.688
YES BECOMES THAT'S GOING THAT'S
03:58:55.754 --> 03:58:56.555
GOING TO HAVE INFORMATION ABOUT
03:58:56.622 --> 03:58:58.624
THE PERSON, ISN'T IT IT'S GOING
03:58:58.691 --> 03:59:00.759
TO ADDRESS DOES NOT HAVE TO IT
03:59:00.826 --> 03:59:02.561
CAN THAT CAN ALL BE REDACTED. IT
03:59:02.628 --> 03:59:03.996
WOULD. IT WOULD MERELY BE THE
03:59:04.063 --> 03:59:05.864
OKAY WHO'S DOING THE REDACTED?
03:59:05.931 --> 03:59:06.665
WHO'S WHO'S MANAGING ALL OF IT.
03:59:06.732 --> 03:59:07.833
WHO? THE ENERGY SORRY, THE
03:59:07.900 --> 03:59:09.935
ENERGY COMMISSION. BUT WE CAN
03:59:10.002 --> 03:59:11.904
SPECIFY ALL OF THAT IN THE BILL
03:59:11.970 --> 03:59:14.540
THAT YOU DON'T WANT ANY PERSONAL
03:59:14.606 --> 03:59:16.241
INFORMATION LIKE NAME ADDRESS.
03:59:16.308 --> 03:59:17.710
WE THOUGHT IT SORT OF WENT
03:59:17.776 --> 03:59:19.812
WITHOUT SAYING, BUT IT CAN BE
03:59:19.878 --> 03:59:21.580
SAID TO BE MORE CLEAR, I THINK
03:59:21.647 --> 03:59:23.015
MAKE MODEL AND FUNCTIONALITY WAS
03:59:23.082 --> 03:59:27.119
AMAZING. I AS WITH MR MAYS, I
03:59:27.186 --> 03:59:27.886
I'M INTENDING TO VOTE FOR THIS.
03:59:27.953 --> 03:59:33.125
UM. BUT I AM GOING TO RESERVE MY
03:59:33.192 --> 03:59:36.261
VOTE FOR THE FLOOR. IF THROUGH
03:59:36.328 --> 03:59:41.166
THE PROCESS, UH. THESE MATTERS
03:59:41.233 --> 03:59:44.336
ARE NOT RESOLVED WITH RESPECT.
03:59:44.403 --> 03:59:47.039
TO PRIVACY NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER
03:59:47.106 --> 03:59:49.174
TWO. ABSOLUTELY MAKE SURE THAT
03:59:49.241 --> 03:59:50.375
THIS IS AN AFTER THE FACT
03:59:50.442 --> 03:59:55.981
REGISTRY. AND THAT DOES NOT GET
03:59:56.048 --> 03:59:57.649
WHOLE H BACK. OUR WHOLE HOUSE
03:59:57.716 --> 04:00:01.487
UPGRADED. AND IN FRESNO AS A
04:00:01.553 --> 04:00:02.554
MAYOR FOR EIGHT YEARS. THE
04:00:02.621 --> 04:00:05.924
PERMIT WAS LIKE THAT. OKAY?
04:00:05.991 --> 04:00:08.260
NOTHING GOT IN THE WAY. I MEAN,
04:00:08.327 --> 04:00:11.063
YOU ACTUALLY I DID IT ONLINE.
04:00:11.130 --> 04:00:14.566
YEAH SO IF THAT'S WHERE WE ARE
04:00:14.633 --> 04:00:18.170
AND THIS IS THE AND THIS
04:00:18.237 --> 04:00:19.271
GATHERING OF THE INFORMATION IS
04:00:19.338 --> 04:00:24.610
AFTER THE FACT. UM. I CAN STILL
04:00:24.676 --> 04:00:26.478
SUPPORT IT, BUT WE'RE GONNA HAVE
04:00:26.545 --> 04:00:28.480
TO GET SOME A LITTLE MORE
04:00:28.547 --> 04:00:30.349
CLARITY ON THE ON THE PRIVACY
04:00:30.415 --> 04:00:32.584
STUFF AND ALL OF THAT, SO I
04:00:32.651 --> 04:00:34.987
RESERVED MY VOTE FOR THE FLOOR.
04:00:35.053 --> 04:00:36.922
BUT I WILL VOTE ON IT TODAY
04:00:36.989 --> 04:00:38.690
RAISED THAT BAR CAN WITH THE
04:00:38.757 --> 04:00:39.858
QUESTION WITH THE QUESTIONS THAT
04:00:39.925 --> 04:00:42.995
WERE BROUGHT UP. THIS PARTICULAR
04:00:43.061 --> 04:00:44.696
BILLS GOING TO NATURAL RESOURCES
04:00:44.763 --> 04:00:47.132
AFTER THIS, SO THERE'S STILL
04:00:47.199 --> 04:00:49.635
THAT OPPORTUNITY, AND I ASSUME
04:00:49.701 --> 04:00:50.903
THERE'S A COMMITMENT TO WORK ON
04:00:50.969 --> 04:00:54.373
THESE ISSUES. UM THAT OUR
04:00:54.439 --> 04:00:54.973
COLLEAGUES HAVE BROUGHT UP. I
04:00:55.040 --> 04:00:56.875
DON'T KNOW IF IT'S BEEN MOVED,
04:00:56.942 --> 04:00:58.110
BUT HAS IT BEEN MOVED. EMOTIONAL
04:00:58.177 --> 04:01:03.949
I WOULD MOVE THE BILL. SECOND.
04:01:04.016 --> 04:01:07.619
MHM MHM COMMENTS QUESTIONS YES.
04:01:07.686 --> 04:01:08.487
SO I APOLOGIZE THAT I MISSED
04:01:08.554 --> 04:01:10.689
SOME OF THE PRESENTATION. BUT I
04:01:10.756 --> 04:01:11.490
DON'T KNOW THAT I GOT CLARITY
04:01:11.557 --> 04:01:12.691
AROUND MR PATTERSON'S QUESTIONS
04:01:12.758 --> 04:01:14.793
, SO I JUST WANT TO LOOP BACK TO
04:01:14.860 --> 04:01:16.461
THAT WHICH IS I HAVE PRIVACY
04:01:16.528 --> 04:01:17.462
CONCERNS AS WELL. AND I THINK
04:01:17.529 --> 04:01:19.398
THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE,
04:01:19.464 --> 04:01:20.399
ALTHOUGH IT MAKES SENSE FROM AN
04:01:20.465 --> 04:01:21.667
ENERGY PERSPECTIVE, AND THIS
04:01:21.733 --> 04:01:22.668
BILL IS GOING TO NATURAL
04:01:22.734 --> 04:01:24.303
RESOURCES, BUT IT'S NOT COMING
04:01:24.369 --> 04:01:26.104
TO PRIVACY, CONSUMER PROTECTION
04:01:26.171 --> 04:01:28.340
AND YET, I THINK YES. AND IT
04:01:28.407 --> 04:01:29.608
DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THERE'S BEEN
04:01:29.675 --> 04:01:31.844
ANY RESOLUTION OR COMMITMENT IN
04:01:31.910 --> 04:01:32.878
HOW WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE THAT.
04:01:32.945 --> 04:01:34.379
BUT MAYBE I MISUNDERSTOOD. WOULD
04:01:34.446 --> 04:01:36.081
YOU JUST CLARIFY IF THE CHAIR
04:01:36.148 --> 04:01:39.885
WOULD INDULGE ME? YEAH, I THINK
04:01:39.952 --> 04:01:41.820
GOOD COMMITTEE HAS ANY TO LOCK
04:01:41.887 --> 04:01:43.355
DOWN THAT. JUST MAKE IT CLEAR
04:01:43.422 --> 04:01:45.490
BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO SEND YOU
04:01:45.557 --> 04:01:47.693
ALL THE QUESTION MARKS TO THE
04:01:47.759 --> 04:01:48.460
FLOOR AND HAVE THAT APPEAR
04:01:48.527 --> 04:01:50.462
THERE.UM AND LUCKILY, WE HAVE
04:01:50.529 --> 04:01:52.931
THIS STOP IN A AND R TWO WHERE
04:01:52.998 --> 04:01:54.066
WE CAN GET SOME TIME TO
04:01:54.132 --> 04:01:55.267
HOPEFULLY GET THE COMMITTEE'S
04:01:55.334 --> 04:01:57.069
HELP. IN MARKING IS A IF YOU
04:01:57.135 --> 04:01:59.638
LOOK AT YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THE
04:01:59.705 --> 04:02:00.973
BILL ITSELF PAGE A IS REALLY THE
04:02:01.039 --> 04:02:06.845
PRIVACY. UM THE LEAST AND IT'S
04:02:06.912 --> 04:02:09.248
SAYING, WELL, THERE'S THAT PIECE
04:02:09.314 --> 04:02:10.682
THAT I TALKED ABOUT SHALL ONLY
04:02:10.749 --> 04:02:11.850
INCLUDE THE PERSONAL INFORMATION
04:02:11.917 --> 04:02:13.552
NECESSARY AND I WILL COMMIT TO
04:02:13.619 --> 04:02:14.753
SOME MEMBER PATTERSON AS WELL.
04:02:14.820 --> 04:02:15.754
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S AMAZED THAT WE
04:02:15.821 --> 04:02:18.490
WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT UM,
04:02:18.557 --> 04:02:20.692
THAT'S NOT A SORT OF SHALL ONLY
04:02:20.759 --> 04:02:22.127
INCLUDE THAT WHICH IS NECESSARY
04:02:22.194 --> 04:02:23.762
, BUT REALLY SPECIFY WHAT'S NOT
04:02:23.829 --> 04:02:26.031
GOING TO BE IN VERY CLEAR ABOUT
04:02:26.098 --> 04:02:30.869
THAT, BUT ALSO NEXT PAGE IN AH,
04:02:30.936 --> 04:02:35.440
I THINK IT'S SECTION THREE.
04:02:35.507 --> 04:02:37.709
THREE C THREE SO PROVIDE THE
04:02:37.776 --> 04:02:39.244
PUBLIC THE ABILITY TO CHECK IF
04:02:39.311 --> 04:02:40.846
PROJECTS IN THEIR AREA OF
04:02:40.913 --> 04:02:41.914
OBTAINED THE REQUIRED PERMITS. I
04:02:41.980 --> 04:02:44.082
THINK THAT'S ONE AREA WHERE
04:02:44.149 --> 04:02:45.217
WE'RE WILLING TO CONCEDE AND SAY
04:02:45.284 --> 04:02:46.852
YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT TO, AS
04:02:46.919 --> 04:02:48.320
THE ANALYSIS SAY, ARMED THE
04:02:48.387 --> 04:02:50.756
NIMBYS IF YOU WILL, BUT WHAT WE
04:02:50.822 --> 04:02:53.025
REALLY WANT IS CSL, CSL B AND
04:02:53.091 --> 04:02:54.726
CITY BUILDING OFFICIALS AFTER
04:02:54.793 --> 04:02:56.728
THE FACT CHECK TO MAKE SURE FOR
04:02:56.795 --> 04:02:59.731
REALLY A GOOD CONSUMER BILL TO
04:02:59.798 --> 04:03:01.033
MAKE SURE YOU'RE GETTING WHAT
04:03:01.099 --> 04:03:02.868
YOU PAID FOR WITH THAT H VAC SO
04:03:02.935 --> 04:03:04.369
IT'S NOT THAT THE PUBLIC AT
04:03:04.436 --> 04:03:05.637
LARGE, YOUR NEIGHBORS SHOULD BE
04:03:05.704 --> 04:03:07.339
SNOOPING ON HOW WELL YOUR AGE
04:03:07.406 --> 04:03:08.974
BACK WORKS. IT'S REALLY DOES
04:03:09.041 --> 04:03:10.342
YOUR YOUR BUILDING AN ISSUE GAVE
04:03:10.409 --> 04:03:12.110
THAT PERMIT. CAN THEY MAKE SURE
04:03:12.177 --> 04:03:13.445
THAT THE DUCKS ARE HOOKED UP?
04:03:13.512 --> 04:03:15.580
THAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY GETTING THE
04:03:15.647 --> 04:03:16.548
EU SAY YOU PAID $2000 THAT UNIT?
04:03:16.615 --> 04:03:18.884
BUT SOMEBODY DIDN'T HOOK UP THE
04:03:18.951 --> 04:03:19.851
DUCTING PROPERLY AND IT'S
04:03:19.918 --> 04:03:20.819
LEAKING OUT THE SIDE OF YOUR
04:03:20.886 --> 04:03:22.254
HOUSE. AND SUDDENLY YOU'RE
04:03:22.321 --> 04:03:23.989
PAYING A $500 ENERGY. BE ENERGY
04:03:24.056 --> 04:03:25.624
BUILDING. 7 TO $1. BILL. THAT'S
04:03:25.691 --> 04:03:26.925
NOT GOOD, AND THEY DON'T EVEN
04:03:26.992 --> 04:03:28.727
KNOW WHAT WE DON'T KNOW RIGHT
04:03:28.794 --> 04:03:31.363
NOW. SO 50. YEAH I DON'T KNOW
04:03:31.430 --> 04:03:32.597
WHAT YOUR BILL IS. YOU GOTTA
04:03:32.664 --> 04:03:35.334
GROWING FAMILY SO, BUT I THINK
04:03:35.400 --> 04:03:38.470
THAT THAT PROVISION. UM YEAH,
04:03:38.537 --> 04:03:39.604
I'M EVEN OPENING JUST STRIKING
04:03:39.671 --> 04:03:42.841
THAT ALTOGETHER. UM OR REFINING
04:03:42.908 --> 04:03:45.477
IT AS YOU ALL SEE FIT, BUT I
04:03:45.544 --> 04:03:47.412
THINK THAT MIGHT ALSO CLEAR UP A
04:03:47.479 --> 04:03:49.281
LITTLE BIT OF THAT CONCERN SO
04:03:49.348 --> 04:03:50.382
AWESOME. THAT'S SUPER HELPFUL,
04:03:50.449 --> 04:03:52.284
AND SO ALL I WILL SUPPORT IT
04:03:52.351 --> 04:03:53.452
TODAY AS WELL BUT APPRECIATE
04:03:53.518 --> 04:03:54.486
THOSE COMMITMENTS BECAUSE I
04:03:54.553 --> 04:03:56.455
THINK IT DOES HAVE A LOT OF
04:03:56.521 --> 04:03:57.756
CLEANING UP TO DO IN THE PRIVACY
04:03:57.823 --> 04:04:02.661
SPACE. THANK YOU. UM SO I SO THE
04:04:02.728 --> 04:04:03.829
DIFFICULTY WITH THE PRIVACY PART
04:04:03.895 --> 04:04:08.333
IS TO BE HELPFUL TO THE
04:04:08.400 --> 04:04:09.901
PERMITTING DEPARTMENT AND THE
04:04:09.968 --> 04:04:11.336
INSPECTORS. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE
04:04:11.403 --> 04:04:13.038
TO HAVE AN ADDRESS ASSOCIATED
04:04:13.105 --> 04:04:16.441
WITH THE EQUIPMENT. AND ONCE YOU
04:04:16.508 --> 04:04:25.283
HAVE AN ADDRESS, ASSOCIATED, UM. PRIVACY IS BUSTED. UM SO YOU
04:04:25.350 --> 04:04:32.090
KNOW? THERE S AN OPTION TO JUST
04:04:32.157 --> 04:04:33.325
MAYBE THERE'S AN OPTION WHERE
04:04:33.392 --> 04:04:35.160
YOU COULD JUST HAVE SOMEONE IN
04:04:35.227 --> 04:04:38.964
THE WHO HAS AUTHORIZATION
04:04:39.031 --> 04:04:41.900
THROUGH THE C E C TO TAKE A LOOK
04:04:41.967 --> 04:04:44.169
AT THE DATABASE. AND
04:04:44.236 --> 04:04:45.303
PARTICULARLY ONLY TAKE A LOOK AT
04:04:45.370 --> 04:04:46.438
THE DATA BASE FOR THE REGION
04:04:46.505 --> 04:04:49.207
THAT THEY'RE IN. AND I THINK
04:04:49.274 --> 04:04:50.809
THAT WOULD YOU COULD LIMIT IT TO
04:04:50.876 --> 04:04:53.211
COUNTIES OR CITIES AND I THINK
04:04:53.278 --> 04:04:55.614
IF YOU WERE TO DO THAT, AND YOU
04:04:55.680 --> 04:04:57.783
KNOW, THERE ARE MANY WE ALL HAVE
04:04:57.849 --> 04:04:58.917
PASSWORDS THESE DAYS. YOU COULD
04:04:58.984 --> 04:05:02.354
GET A PASSWORD. THAT ALLOWS YOU
04:05:02.421 --> 04:05:04.556
TO LOOK AT YOU KNOW X Y Z FROM
04:05:04.623 --> 04:05:07.426
THE C E. C.AND I THINK THAT
04:05:07.492 --> 04:05:11.363
WOULD SOLVE THE ISSUE. SO UH,
04:05:11.430 --> 04:05:12.964
THE OTHER ISSUE HERE. I DON'T
04:05:13.031 --> 04:05:17.235
HAVE ANY MORE BECAUSE WHAT'S
04:05:17.302 --> 04:05:18.937
BECOME VERY CLEAR AS YOU'RE NOT
04:05:19.004 --> 04:05:20.472
TRYING TO SOLVE ALL THE PROBLEMS
04:05:20.539 --> 04:05:21.606
. YOU'RE SIMPLY TRYING TO MAKE
04:05:21.673 --> 04:05:24.709
SURE PERMITS ARE ISSUED. AND
04:05:24.776 --> 04:05:26.278
THEREFORE HAVING A DATABASE
04:05:26.344 --> 04:05:28.447
STRICTLY WITH WHAT EQUIPMENT WAS
04:05:28.513 --> 04:05:31.083
. WHERE MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.
04:05:31.149 --> 04:05:32.217
THERE WAS A QUESTION. WHY DID
04:05:32.284 --> 04:05:33.819
YOU PICK THIS PARTICULAR DATA?
04:05:33.885 --> 04:05:36.154
BUT FROM YOUR WITNESSES AND
04:05:36.221 --> 04:05:37.322
YOURSELF? IT'S VERY CLEAR. YOU
04:05:37.389 --> 04:05:38.323
JUST YOU'RE INTERESTED IN
04:05:38.390 --> 04:05:39.724
PERMITTING. SO I THINK IT'S A
04:05:39.791 --> 04:05:42.861
GOOD USE. WHETHER OR NOT YOU'LL
04:05:42.928 --> 04:05:44.596
GET THROUGH APPROPRIATIONS AND
04:05:44.663 --> 04:05:46.531
ALL THESE OTHER THINGS, BUT I'M
04:05:46.598 --> 04:05:48.033
CERTAINLY GOING TO BE SUPPORTING
04:05:48.100 --> 04:05:50.602
IT, AND I HOPE YOU CAN. I HOPE
04:05:50.669 --> 04:05:52.237
THERE'S A WAY THAT WE CAN SOLVE
04:05:52.304 --> 04:05:53.538
THE PRIVACY ISSUES ALONG THE WAY
04:05:53.605 --> 04:05:54.739
. I'VE JUST SUGGESTED. THANK
04:05:54.806 --> 04:05:57.342
YOU, DR CHRISTINA. YEAH. THANK
04:05:57.409 --> 04:05:58.710
YOU. I'M GOING TO VOTE FOR THIS
04:05:58.777 --> 04:06:00.479
BILL. I DO APPRECIATE THE ISSUES
04:06:00.545 --> 04:06:02.114
THAT MY COLLEAGUES HAVE BROUGHT
04:06:02.180 --> 04:06:03.415
UP. I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT
04:06:03.482 --> 04:06:05.183
THAT THIS IS GOING TO NATURAL
04:06:05.250 --> 04:06:06.485
RESOURCES AND X AND IT'S NOT A
04:06:06.551 --> 04:06:07.853
PRIVACY COMMITTEE. IT'S NOT A
04:06:07.919 --> 04:06:09.588
JUDICIARY COMMITTEE ENCOURAGE.
04:06:09.654 --> 04:06:11.089
YOU DO REACH OUT TO THOSE
04:06:11.156 --> 04:06:12.858
COMMITTEES SO THAT THEY COULD
04:06:12.924 --> 04:06:13.625
HELP IN THE FACILITATION SO THAT
04:06:13.692 --> 04:06:15.861
WHEN WE DO SEE THIS NATURAL
04:06:15.927 --> 04:06:16.661
RESOURCES, YOU HAVE THAT
04:06:16.728 --> 04:06:18.763
EXPERTISE SO THAT WE HAVE
04:06:18.830 --> 04:06:19.764
CONFIDENCE BUILDING AND THAT
04:06:19.831 --> 04:06:22.367
COMMITTEE FOR THIS BILL. AND
04:06:22.434 --> 04:06:23.668
JUST JUST THE RECOMMENDATION,
04:06:23.735 --> 04:06:28.106
PLEASE. BUT I'LL TAKE YOU UP ON
04:06:28.173 --> 04:06:29.174
YOUR RECOMMENDATION WILL DO SOME
04:06:29.241 --> 04:06:30.108
CONSULTATION WITH THE
04:06:30.175 --> 04:06:31.643
APPROPRIATE UM, COMMITTEES AS
04:06:31.710 --> 04:06:34.613
WELL AND I THINK BY STRIKING
04:06:34.679 --> 04:06:37.349
THAT PUBLIC PROVISION SECTION
04:06:37.415 --> 04:06:41.219
THAT SHOULD ELIMINATE THAT. THAT
04:06:41.286 --> 04:06:43.488
ISSUE AND IN THE BILL RIGHT NOW,
04:06:43.555 --> 04:06:45.357
IT SAYS THE H VAC EQUIPMENT
04:06:45.423 --> 04:06:48.093
SALES TRACKING SYSTEM THAT THAT
04:06:48.160 --> 04:06:49.661
THAT THAT INFORMATION MAY BE
04:06:49.728 --> 04:06:51.096
SHARED WITH LOCAL BUILDING
04:06:51.163 --> 04:06:52.797
OFFICIALS AND OTHER AGENCIES. IF
04:06:52.864 --> 04:06:54.766
WE STRICTLY LIMIT THAT, WITHIN
04:06:54.833 --> 04:06:56.434
THOSE PARAMETERS, WE SHOULDN'T
04:06:56.501 --> 04:06:58.036
HAVE SORT OF THIS LARGER ISSUE
04:06:58.103 --> 04:06:59.371
AROUND WHO HAS ACCESS TO THAT
04:06:59.437 --> 04:07:01.306
DATA, SO WE'LL WORK ON REFINING
04:07:01.373 --> 04:07:02.440
THAT. THANK YOU ALL FOR THE
04:07:02.507 --> 04:07:05.477
CONSTRUCTIVE MARKED UP HERE THAT
04:07:05.544 --> 04:07:07.479
DUST UP OR WHATEVER IT IS, IT'S
04:07:07.546 --> 04:07:09.447
REALLY IT'S WHAT WHAT POLICY
04:07:09.514 --> 04:07:10.382
COMMITTEES ARE FOUR. SO I
04:07:10.448 --> 04:07:12.083
SINCERELY APPRECIATE IT. THANK
04:07:12.150 --> 04:07:13.418
YOU. I THINK THAT WAS YOUR
04:07:13.485 --> 04:07:15.353
CLOTHES RIGHT? IT WAS STRICTLY
04:07:15.420 --> 04:07:16.021
PRIVATE. SECOND, HE'S LANDED THE
04:07:16.087 --> 04:07:16.988
PLANE. I'M GONNA CALL THE
04:07:17.055 --> 04:07:21.326
QUESTION. ITEM NUMBER 15 SB 11
04:07:21.393 --> 04:07:23.562
64, THE MOTION IS DUE PASS TO
04:07:23.628 --> 04:07:25.130
NATURAL RESOURCES. EDUARDO
04:07:25.197 --> 04:07:26.731
GARCIA GARCIA, I, PATERSON
04:07:26.798 --> 04:07:28.867
PATERSON. I BARRICADE KHN.
04:07:28.934 --> 04:07:30.969
BAUER-KAHAN I. KOREA. CARILLO I
04:07:31.036 --> 04:07:34.339
CHEN CUNNINGHAM. CUNNINGHAM I
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PHONE FUNG I, CRISTINA GARCIA.
04:07:40.278 --> 04:07:41.379
CRISTINA GARCIA, I HOLDEN
04:07:41.446 --> 04:07:44.649
HOLDEN. I MADE MAY'S NOT VOTING
04:07:44.716 --> 04:07:48.954
MURATSUCHI. MURATSUCHI I CORK.
04:07:49.020 --> 04:07:52.958
QUIRK I RAISE PRAISE I SANTIAGO.
04:07:53.024 --> 04:07:57.896
SANTIAGO. I TING. THANK YOU.
04:07:57.963 --> 04:08:02.434
THAT'S 12. HER AND LEAVE THAT
04:08:02.500 --> 04:08:04.336
OPEN AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND
04:08:04.402 --> 04:08:05.637
WE'RE GOING TO START ADDING ON
04:08:05.704 --> 04:08:08.039
WE'RE GOING TO GO TO THE TOP OF
04:08:08.106 --> 04:08:10.275
THE AGENDA. WHEN YOU GO TO THE
04:08:10.342 --> 04:08:10.875
TOP OF THE AGENDA. WELL. START
04:08:10.942 --> 04:08:15.380
WITH THE CONSENT CALENDAR
04:08:15.447 --> 04:08:16.481
CALENDAR, AND THEN WE'LL WORK
04:08:16.548 --> 04:08:20.051
OUR WAY DOWN. THANK YOU. OKAY.
04:08:20.118 --> 04:08:26.024
CONSENT CALENDAR. SB 12 13 AND
04:08:26.091 --> 04:08:28.960
SB 13 83. THE MOTION WAS DUE
04:08:29.027 --> 04:08:32.197
PAST APPROPRIATIONS. CUNNINGHAM.
04:08:32.264 --> 04:08:34.099
CUNNINGHAM? AYE. CRISTINA
04:08:34.165 --> 04:08:36.801
GARCIA. CRISTINA GARCIA, I
04:08:36.868 --> 04:08:40.672
HOLDEN. GOLDENEYE MAIS OH, I
04:08:40.739 --> 04:08:44.209
HAVE MEZA'S AYE. MURATSUCHI
04:08:44.276 --> 04:08:46.611
MERCER GI SANTIAGO. SANTIAGO
04:08:46.678 --> 04:08:51.549
CHING. IT OPEN FOR A FEW
04:08:51.616 --> 04:08:56.254
MINUTES, OKAY? ON THE CONSENT
04:08:56.321 --> 04:09:00.959
CALENDAR, CARILLO CARILLO? AYE.
04:09:01.026 --> 04:09:06.631
THANK YOU, LORD. ITEM NUMBER ONE
04:09:06.698 --> 04:09:09.067
SP 13 93. THE MOTION IS DUE PASS
04:09:09.134 --> 04:09:10.268
TO LOCAL GOVERNMENT. BARRICADE
04:09:10.335 --> 04:09:14.239
KH. ERICA HANAI, KOREA.
04:09:14.306 --> 04:09:17.242
CARILLO? AYE, CUNNINGHAM.
04:09:17.309 --> 04:09:19.678
CUNNINGHAM. I, CHRISTINE.
04:09:19.744 --> 04:09:22.947
CRISTINA GARCIA. NOT VOTING.
04:09:23.014 --> 04:09:28.320
HOLDEN. HOLD ON. I MURATSUCHI
04:09:28.386 --> 04:09:32.057
MURATSUCHI NOT VOTING. PRAISE.
04:09:32.123 --> 04:09:37.195
REYES I SANTIAGO. ITEM NUMBER
04:09:37.262 --> 04:09:43.935
ONE SP 13 93. SANTIAGO. I TING.
04:09:44.002 --> 04:09:49.708
THAT OPEN. ITEM NUMBER TWO SB
04:09:49.774 --> 04:09:52.110
887. THE MOTION IS DUE PASSES
04:09:52.177 --> 04:09:52.644
AMENDED TO APPROPRIATIONS.
04:09:52.711 --> 04:09:59.084
KOREA. CARILLO? AYE. CUNNINGHAM.
04:09:59.150 --> 04:10:01.586
CUNNINGHAM I, CRISTINA GARCIA.
04:10:01.653 --> 04:10:03.355
CRISTINA GARCIA, I HOLDEN
04:10:03.421 --> 04:10:06.825
HOLDEN. AYE. MURATSUCHI
04:10:06.891 --> 04:10:09.594
MURATSUCHI I. SANTIAGO?
04:10:09.661 --> 04:10:14.466
SANTIAGO. I TING. THAT OPEN.
04:10:14.532 --> 04:10:16.935
WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR 10. ITEM
04:10:17.001 --> 04:10:22.974
NUMBER THREE. SB 10 30 TO THE
04:10:23.041 --> 04:10:24.242
MOTION IS DUE PASSES AMENDED TO
04:10:24.309 --> 04:10:28.346
APPROPRIATIONS KOREA. THIS IS
04:10:28.413 --> 04:10:30.815
ITEM NUMBER THREE SB 10 32.
04:10:30.882 --> 04:10:35.420
CARILLO? AYE. CUNNINGHAM.
04:10:35.487 --> 04:10:37.589
CUNNINGHAM? AYE. CRISTINA
04:10:37.655 --> 04:10:40.558
GARCIA. CRISTINA GARCIA, I
04:10:40.625 --> 04:10:45.296
HOLDEN. WELL THEN I MURATSUCHI
04:10:45.363 --> 04:10:49.334
MURATSUCHI. AYE. SANTIAGO.
04:10:49.401 --> 04:10:55.940
SANTIAGO. I CHING. ITEM NUMBER
04:10:56.007 --> 04:10:59.277
FOUR SB 11 12. THE MOTION IS DUE
04:10:59.344 --> 04:10:59.677
PASSES AMENDED TO
04:10:59.744 --> 04:11:02.514
APPROPRIATIONS. KOREA. CARILLO?
04:11:02.580 --> 04:11:05.950
AYE, CUNNINGHAM. CUNNINGHAM I,
04:11:06.017 --> 04:11:08.253
CRISTINA GARCIA. CRISTINA
04:11:08.319 --> 04:11:12.757
GARCIA, I HOLDEN. HOLDEN I
04:11:12.824 --> 04:11:15.827
MURATSUCHI MURATSUCHI I SANTIAGO
04:11:15.894 --> 04:11:18.797
SANTIAGO. I TING ITEM NUMBER
04:11:18.863 --> 04:11:24.235
FIVE. SB 11 58. THE MOTION IS
04:11:24.302 --> 04:11:25.837
DUE PASS TO NATURAL RESOURCES.
04:11:25.904 --> 04:11:29.641
BAUER-KAHAN. BAUER-KAHAN I.
04:11:29.707 --> 04:11:35.280
KOREA. CARILLO? AYE, CUNNINGHAM.
04:11:35.346 --> 04:11:37.148
CUNNINGHAM I, CRISTINA GARCIA,
04:11:37.215 --> 04:11:39.451
CRISTINA GARCIA, I HOLDEN
04:11:39.517 --> 04:11:41.920
HOLDEN. I MURATSUCHI MURATSUCHI
04:11:41.986 --> 04:11:46.958
I RAISE PRAISE I SANTIAGO.
04:11:47.025 --> 04:11:51.830
SANTIAGO. I TING. ITEM NUMBER
04:11:51.896 --> 04:11:55.733
SIX SB 14 69. THE MOTION IS DUE
04:11:55.800 --> 04:11:58.703
PAST APPROPRIATIONS. BAUER-KAHAN
04:11:58.770 --> 04:12:02.941
BARRICADE HANAI CUNNINGHAM.
04:12:03.007 --> 04:12:03.975
CUNNINGHAM NOT VOTING. CRISTINA
04:12:04.042 --> 04:12:06.277
GARCIA. CRISTINA GARCIA, I
04:12:06.344 --> 04:12:11.449
HOLDEN HOLD ON. I MURATSUCHI
04:12:11.516 --> 04:12:15.086
MURATSUCHI I RAISE. THIS IS
04:12:15.153 --> 04:12:18.122
BRADFORD 14 69. PRAISE I
04:12:18.189 --> 04:12:22.961
SANTIAGO. SANTIAGO. I CHING.
04:12:23.027 --> 04:12:28.766
ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. SB 11 74. THE
04:12:28.833 --> 04:12:30.068
MOTION IS DUE PASSES AMENDED TO
04:12:30.134 --> 04:12:33.838
APPROPRIATIONS. BAUER-KAHAN.
04:12:33.905 --> 04:12:35.640
BAUER-KAHAN I. KOREA. CARILLO?
04:12:35.707 --> 04:12:40.078
AYE. CUNNINGHAM. CUNNINGHAM I,
04:12:40.144 --> 04:12:43.381
CRISTINA GARCIA. CRISTINA
04:12:43.448 --> 04:12:45.950
GARCIA, I HOLDEN HOLD ON. I
04:12:46.017 --> 04:12:51.222
MURATSUCHI MURATSUCHI I RAISE
04:12:51.289 --> 04:12:54.092
VERY AS I SANTIAGO. SANTIAGO. I
04:12:54.158 --> 04:13:01.966
TING. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT SB 733.
04:13:02.033 --> 04:13:03.434
THE MOTION IS DUE PASS TO
04:13:03.501 --> 04:13:04.903
NATURAL RESOURCES WITH THE
04:13:04.969 --> 04:13:06.237
AGREEMENT TO TAKE AMENDMENTS AND
04:13:06.304 --> 04:13:09.007
NATURAL RESOURCES. KOREA.
04:13:09.073 --> 04:13:12.343
CARILLO, NOT VOTING. CUNNINGHAM.
04:13:12.410 --> 04:13:17.749
CUNNINGHAM? AYE. HOLDEN. PULLED
04:13:17.815 --> 04:13:30.094
AN EYE MAIZE. MAIZE? AYE. RAISED. REYES, NOT VOTING. SANTIAGO.
04:13:30.161 --> 04:13:37.235
THIS IS SB 7 33. SANTIAGO. AYE.
04:13:37.302 --> 04:13:49.547
AND TING. OKAY CHEECH, CHANGING
04:13:49.614 --> 04:13:57.822
FROM NO TO NOT VOTING. ITEM
04:13:57.889 --> 04:14:03.061
NUMBER NINE. SB 12 08. THE
04:14:03.127 --> 04:14:04.195
MOTION IS DUE PASS TO
04:14:04.262 --> 04:14:05.229
COMMUNICATIONS AND CONVINCE
04:14:05.296 --> 04:14:07.765
BAUER-KAHAN BAUER-KAHAN. AYE,
04:14:07.832 --> 04:14:15.239
CARILLO. I'M SORRY. AYE,
04:14:15.306 --> 04:14:19.711
CARILLO. I CHEN CUNNINGHAM.
04:14:19.777 --> 04:14:22.013
CUNNINGHAM. I HOLDEN HOLD AND I
04:14:22.080 --> 04:14:28.720
MADE MAY'S QUIRK. QUIRK, IRAS.
04:14:28.786 --> 04:14:31.556
PRAISE I SANTIAGO. SANTIAGO. I
04:14:31.623 --> 04:14:38.096
CHING. ITEM NUMBER 12 SB 10 20.
04:14:38.162 --> 04:14:39.263
THE MOTION IS DUE PASS TO
04:14:39.330 --> 04:14:41.399
NATURAL RESOURCES. CUNNINGHAM.
04:14:41.466 --> 04:14:44.869
PENDING HIM NOT VOTING. HOLDEN.
04:14:44.936 --> 04:14:48.773
HOLD ON. I. MURATSUCHI
04:14:48.840 --> 04:14:51.409
MURATSUCHI I RAISE RAY'S EYES.
04:14:51.476 --> 04:14:58.950
SANTIAGO. SB 10 20 LAIRD.
04:14:59.017 --> 04:15:04.622
SANTIAGO. I TING. ITEM NUMBER 13
04:15:04.689 --> 04:15:08.493
SB 884. THE MOTION IS DUE PASS
04:15:08.559 --> 04:15:09.827
TO NATURAL RESOURCES WITH THE
04:15:09.894 --> 04:15:11.062
AGREEMENT TO TAKE AMENDMENTS AND
04:15:11.129 --> 04:15:12.130
NATURAL RESOURCES BAUER-KAHAN
04:15:12.196 --> 04:15:14.332
BAUER-KAHAN. AYE, CARILLO.
04:15:14.399 --> 04:15:18.469
KOREA. I CHEN CUNNINGHAM.
04:15:18.536 --> 04:15:20.872
CUTTING HIM. I HOLD IN. HOLDING
04:15:20.938 --> 04:15:26.344
I MAZE. MAY'S AYE. QUIRK QUIRK I
04:15:26.411 --> 04:15:31.482
RAISE REYES I SANTIAGO. THIS IS
04:15:31.549 --> 04:15:38.089
SB 884 MCGUIRE. SANTIAGO. I
04:15:38.156 --> 04:15:44.429
TING. ITEM NUMBER 14 SB 10 75.
04:15:44.495 --> 04:15:50.001
THE MOTION IS D<c.cyan>PASS TO NATURAL</c>
04:15:50.068 --> 04:15:52.103
RESOURCES WITH THE AGREEMENT TO
04:15:52.170 --> 04:15:53.104
TAKE AMENDMENTS AND NATURAL
04:15:53.171 --> 04:15:53.705
RESOURCES BARRICADE KH.
04:15:53.771 --> 04:15:58.943
BAUER-KAHAN I. KOREA. CHEN. I'M
04:15:59.010 --> 04:16:05.149
SORRY. SB 10 75. CARILLO? AYE.
04:16:05.216 --> 04:16:08.052
CHEN. CUNNINGHAM. CUNNINGHAM?
04:16:08.119 --> 04:16:12.457
AYE. HOLDEN. HOLDEN. AYE.
04:16:12.523 --> 04:16:19.464
SANTIAGO. SANTIAGO. I CHING.
04:16:19.530 --> 04:16:23.367
ITEM NUMBER 15 SB 11 60 FOR THE
04:16:23.434 --> 04:16:25.269
MOTION IS DUE PASS TO NATURAL
04:16:25.336 --> 04:16:34.378
RESOURCES. CHEN TING. THANK YOU.
04:16:34.445 --> 04:16:35.613
THANK THANK YOU, EVERYONE. WE'RE
04:16:35.680 --> 04:16:37.882
GONNA STAY HERE FOR ABOUT FIVE.
04:16:37.949 --> 04:16:41.252
GIVE OR TAKE 10 MINUTES. WE HAVE
04:16:41.319 --> 04:16:42.587
COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT I'M GOING
04:16:42.653 --> 04:16:44.388
TO LEAVE OPEN FOR A FEW MEMBERS
04:16:44.455 --> 04:16:46.224
THAT, UH, SAID THEY'D BE BACK.
04:16:46.290 --> 04:16:50.094
SO THANK YOU EVERYONE ELSE. WIRE
04:16:50.161 --> 04:16:56.534
BUILDING. UM MCGUIRE. SORRY.
04:16:56.601 --> 04:17:01.639
JUST A MINUTE. REMEMBER 13. IT'S
04:17:01.706 --> 04:17:05.543
GONNA GET OUT 12345678 10? YEP.
04:17:05.610 --> 04:17:25.196
AND THEN THEM. WHATEVER.
04:17:47.485 --> 04:17:54.592
WE'VE GOT, UM. 88 13. ITEM
04:17:54.659 --> 04:17:56.994
NUMBER 13 SB 84. SIMILAR
04:17:57.061 --> 04:18:01.666
MASUCCI. IS CHANGING, CHANGING
04:18:01.732 --> 04:18:06.070
FROM NOT VOTING TO, AYE. OH,
04:18:06.137 --> 04:18:09.340
SORRY. 13 S B A FOUR NOT VOTING
04:18:09.407 --> 04:18:11.209
TO I. THAT'S SOME MEMBER OF
04:18:11.275 --> 04:18:27.458
MURATSUCHI.
04:21:14.658 --> 04:21:17.895
WE WILL. WE'LL START WITH THE
04:21:17.962 --> 04:21:20.097
CONSENT CALENDAR. AND I THINK,
04:21:20.164 --> 04:21:27.838
UM. YOU'LL BE THE LAST PERSON.
04:21:27.905 --> 04:21:34.845
WE GO. OKAY THE CONSENT CALENDAR
04:21:34.912 --> 04:21:38.349
. SB 12 13 IN SB 13 83. THE
04:21:38.416 --> 04:21:40.017
MOTION IS DUE PAST
04:21:40.084 --> 04:21:40.584
APPROPRIATIONS TING. EATING?
04:21:40.651 --> 04:21:46.090
AYE. THAT'S 15 0. OKAY SO THAT
04:21:46.157 --> 04:21:47.324
BILL GETS OUT WITH THOSE BILLS.
04:21:47.391 --> 04:21:51.128
GET OUT. OKAY ITEM NUMBER ONE SB
04:21:51.195 --> 04:21:52.763
13 93 MOTIONS DO PASS TO LOCAL
04:21:52.830 --> 04:21:55.499
GOVERNMENT. TING. KING, NOT
04:21:55.566 --> 04:21:59.670
VOTING. THAT IS 13 0. BILL WILL
04:21:59.737 --> 04:22:04.442
GET OUT. ITEM NUMBER TWO SB 887
04:22:04.508 --> 04:22:05.476
D PASSES AMENDED TO
04:22:05.543 --> 04:22:10.114
APPROPRIATIONS TING. EATING I
04:22:10.181 --> 04:22:14.885
THAT IS 15 0 GETS OUT. ITEM
04:22:14.952 --> 04:22:17.421
NUMBER THREE SB 10 30 TO DO PASS
04:22:17.488 --> 04:22:18.722
AS AMENDED TO APPROPRIATIONS.
04:22:18.789 --> 04:22:23.360
TEACHING. KING I THAT'S 15 0
04:22:23.427 --> 04:22:27.865
GETS OUT. ITEM NUMBER FOUR DO
04:22:27.932 --> 04:22:28.632
PASS AS AMENDED TO
04:22:28.699 --> 04:22:32.970
APPROPRIATIONS TING KING. I 15 0
04:22:33.037 --> 04:22:37.608
GETS OUT. ITEM NUMBER FIVE SB 11
04:22:37.675 --> 04:22:38.976
58 DO PASS TO NATURAL RESOURCES.
04:22:39.043 --> 04:22:44.448
EATING. EATING I THAT'S 12 0.
04:22:44.515 --> 04:22:49.353
THAT BILL GETS OUT. ITEM NUMBER
04:22:49.420 --> 04:22:51.522
SIX SB 14 69 DO PASS TO
04:22:51.589 --> 04:22:54.992
APPROPRIATIONS TING EATING I
04:22:55.059 --> 04:22:59.730
THAT'S 14 0. IT GETS OUT ITEM
04:22:59.797 --> 04:23:02.867
NUMBER SEVEN SB 11 74 D<c.cyan> PASSES</c>
04:23:02.933 --> 04:23:06.637
AMENDED TO APPROPRIATIONS TING
04:23:06.704 --> 04:23:10.608
EATING I THAT'S 15 0 GETS OUT.
04:23:10.674 --> 04:23:13.611
ITEM NUMBER EIGHT DO PASS TO
04:23:13.677 --> 04:23:14.678
NATURAL RESOURCES WITH THE
04:23:14.745 --> 04:23:15.713
AGREEMENT TO TAKE AMENDMENTS AND
04:23:15.779 --> 04:23:19.450
NATURAL RESOURCES. TING. EATING
04:23:19.517 --> 04:23:25.956
I THAT'S EIGHT TO BILL GETS OUT.
04:23:26.023 --> 04:23:29.693
ITEM NUMBER NINE SB 12 08. THE
04:23:29.760 --> 04:23:30.794
MOTION IS DUE PAST THE
04:23:30.861 --> 04:23:32.229
COMMUNICATIONS AND CONVEYANCE.
04:23:32.296 --> 04:23:38.269
CHEN TING. EATING I THAT'S 14 0
04:23:38.335 --> 04:23:42.506
GETS OUT. ITEM NUMBER 12 DO PASS
04:23:42.573 --> 04:23:44.108
TO NATURAL RESOURCE ITEM NUMBER
04:23:44.175 --> 04:23:46.744
12 SB 10 20 DO PASS TO NATURAL
04:23:46.810 --> 04:23:51.015
RESOURCES. EATING. EATING I
04:23:51.081 --> 04:23:54.351
THAT'S 12 0 GETS OUT. ITEM
04:23:54.418 --> 04:23:57.421
NUMBER 13 SB 884 DO PASS TO
04:23:57.488 --> 04:23:58.789
NATURAL RESOURCES WITH THE
04:23:58.856 --> 04:24:00.491
AGREEMENT TO TAKE AMENDMENTS AND
04:24:00.558 --> 04:24:03.727
NATURAL RESOURCES. CHEN TING
04:24:03.794 --> 04:24:07.464
TING I THAT'S 12 0 WILL GET OUT.
04:24:07.531 --> 04:24:10.534
ITEM NUMBER 14 SB 10 75 DO PASS
04:24:10.601 --> 04:24:11.835
TO NATURAL RESOURCES WITH
04:24:11.902 --> 04:24:13.103
AGREEMENTS, TAKE AMENDMENTS AND
04:24:13.170 --> 04:24:15.139
NATURAL RESOURCES. CHEN TING
04:24:15.206 --> 04:24:16.640
TING I THAT'S 14 0. BILL GETS
04:24:16.707 --> 04:24:23.881
OUT. ITEM NUMBER 15 11 SB 11 64
04:24:23.948 --> 04:24:25.015
DO PAST NATURAL RESOURCES CHEN
04:24:25.082 --> 04:24:29.019
TING KING I THAT'S 13 0 GETS
04:24:29.086 --> 04:24:40.598
OUT.
04:24:40.664 --> 04:24:42.633
ITEM NUMBER EIGHT SENATE BILL
04:24:42.700 --> 04:24:46.470
733 WESSEL. SOME MEMBER
04:24:46.537 --> 04:24:47.571
MURATSUCHI FROM NOT VOTING TO.
04:24:47.638 --> 04:24:50.474
AYE. OKAY, LET THE RECORD
04:24:50.541 --> 04:24:53.510
REFLECT THAT. OKAY NINE VOTES.
04:24:53.577 --> 04:24:59.717
92. BILL GETS OUT. I THINK WITH
04:24:59.783 --> 04:25:00.918
THAT WE WILL CONCLUDE OUR
04:25:00.985 --> 04:25:02.486
HEARING. THANK YOU ALL FOR
04:25:02.553 --> 04:25:18.836
JOINING US TODAY.