GOOD MORNING. WELCOME TO THE
JUNE 29TH 2022 HEARING OF THE
ASSEMBLY ELECTIONS COMMITTEE. I
DO NOT BELIEVE A QUOTE WE DO
HAVE A QUORUM. BEAUTIFUL MADAM
SECRETARY CAN CALL THE ROLL.
BRIAN HERE. BRIAN HERE, SEYARTO
TOÀN ARE TO HEAR BENNETT. LOW.
LOW HERE, MAZE. MAY'S HERE,
MULLEN. BLANCA RUBIO. BLANCA
RUBIO HERE WE HAVE A CORE. THANK
YOU DO THE COVID 19 PANDEMIC. WE
CONTINUE TO OPERATE WITH
MODIFIED COMMITTEE PROCEDURES.
ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO WAS
PRESENT AT THE HEARING ROOM IS
ENCOURAGED TO WEAR A MASK. HAVE
TWO OPTIONS FOR THE PUBLIC TO
TESTIFY IN TODAY'S HEARING
THAT'S IN PERSON OR BY A
MODERATED TELEPHONE SERVICE. THE
COMMITTEE HAS SIX BILLS ON ITS
AGENDA, INCLUDING ONE BILL THAT
IS ON CONSENT FOR EACH BUILDING
WILL BE A MAXIMUM OF TWO PRIMARY
WITNESSES AND SUPPORT TWO
WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION. WITH
LIMITED TWO MINUTES PER WITNESS.
AFTER WE'VE HEARD FROM THE
PRIMARY WITNESS, THE PUBLIC WILL
HAVE UP TO 15 MINUTES IN TOTAL
TIME FOR ADDITIONAL PUBLIC
COMMENT ON EACH BILL, STARTING
WITH MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC COURT
HERE IN THE ROOM. OTHER
WITNESSES ARE LIMITED TO
PROVIDING THEIR NAME.
ORGANIZATION THEY REPRESENT, IF
ANY, IN THEIR POSITION ON THE
BILL. ADDITIONAL COMMENTS WILL
BE RULED OUT OF ORDER. YOU ARE
UNABLE TO GET TO THE PHONE.
PLEASE FEEL FREE TO SUBMIT
WRITTEN TESTIMONY THROUGH THE
PORTS ON THE COMMITTEE'S
WEBSITE. THIS WRITTEN TESTIMONY
WILL BECOME PART OF THE OFFICIAL
RECORD. FOR THOSE WHO ARE
WATCHING THIS HEARING REMOTELY
AND WHO WISH TO CALL IN TO
REGISTER YOUR POSITION. THE
CALLING NUMBER FOR THIS HEARING
IS 877692. 89 57. THE ACCESS
CODE IS 13154. 44 YOU CAN ALSO
FIND THIS NUMBER ON THE ASSEMBLY
ELECTIONS COMMITTEE WEBSITE AS
WELL AS ON YOUR TV OR COMPUTER
SCREEN. IF YOU'RE CALLING IN,
PLEASE ELIMINATE YOUR BACKGROUND
NOISE. THIS INCLUDES MEETING
YOUR LIVESTREAM BROADCAST. AND
YOU'RE SMART DEVICES TO REDUCE
SOUND DISTORTION. IF YOU'RE
HAVING ANY PROBLEMS WITH THE
MODERATED PHONE SERVICE, YOU CAN
CALL THE COMMITTEE DIRECTLY AT
916319 2094. THE COMMITTEE STAFF
WILL BE THERE TO TRY TO HELP.
THANK YOU FOR BEARING WITH US,
AS WE STILL MAKE IT THROUGH
WHAT'S BEEN A TRYING COUPLE OF
YEARS. BEFORE WE PROCEED TO OUR
AGENDA OF TWO ADDITIONAL
ANNOUNCEMENTS TO MAKE FIRST
SENATE BILL 14 80 BY SENATOR
GLAZER HAS BEEN PULLED FROM
TODAY'S AGENDA AT THE AUTHOR'S
REQUEST. SECOND SENATOR GLASER
IS UNABLE TO ATTEND TODAY'S
HEARING. SO HE HAS ASKED ME TO
PRESENT SB 794 SP 14 39 ON HIS
BEHALF. I WILL DO SO EITHER AT
THE END OF TODAY'S HEARING OR AT
A TIME WHEN NO OTHER BILL
AUTHORS ARE PRESENT WITH THOSE
ANNOUNCEMENTS. WE WILL JUMP INTO
TODAY'S AGENDA. AS OUR FIRST
ITEM OF BUSINESS. I SEE. MISS
SKINNER IS IN THE BUILDING
CENTER. SKINNER WELCOME.
MRS SB 746. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
. MR CHAIR MEMBERS PLEASED TO
PRESENT SB 7 46. UM WITH THE
ALGORITHMS THAT ARE ONLINE
PLATFORMS USED. NOW IT IS
POSSIBLE FOR THOSE OPERATORS
HAVE SUCH PLATFORMS TO
INDIVIDUALLY INFLUENCE VOTER
BEHAVIOR. THEY CAN CURATE THE
ONLINE CONTENT WE SEE. AND IF
CHOOSE, IF SO, CHOOSING TO DO SO
THEY COULD SKEW IT TOWARDS
PARTICULAR POLITICAL STANCE. UM
CALIFORNIA ELECTION LAWS HAVE
NOT YET CAUGHT UP WITH THESE
ADVANCEMENTS. EXCEPT FOR PAID.
OR RATHER, EXCEPT FOR
ADVERTISEMENTS THAT ARE PAID FOR
DIRECTLY BY A CAMPAIGN OR A
THIRD PARTY TARGETED ONLINE
POLITICAL ACTIVITIES ARE NOT
CURRENTLY REPORTABLE TO THE F P
P C. AND UNDER FP PC RULES
UNLESS AN EMPLOYEE SPENDS MORE
THAN 10% OF STAFF TIME CURATING
SUCH POLITICAL CONTENT THAT IS
ALSO NOT REPORTABLE. BUT I THINK
AS WE KNOW IT IS POSSIBLE THAT
REVISING AN ALGORITHM MAY TAKE
VERY LITTLE TIME. SO THE ISSUE
OF TRYING TO EXPECT A CERTAIN
PERCENT STEP TIME ON THAT KIND
OF ACTIVITY. IS DOESN'T REALLY
REFLECT THE REALITY OF THE THAT
SITUATION NOW WE THIS CAME TO
OUR ATTENTION BECAUSE IN THE LET
ME GET THIS RIGHT WHICH ELECTION
ANYWAY? IN THE ELECTION, WHERE
OUR UM PRIVACY LAW WAS A
PROPOSITION ON THE BALLOT.
ANYONE WHO USED TO SEARCH ENGINE
TO SEARCH THAT PROPOSITION. WHAT
CAME UP IN THEIR SEARCH ENGINES
, AND THIS WAS A VARIETY OF
SEARCH ENGINES, WAS THE
SECRETARY OF STATE'S THE PART OF
THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S PAGE.
THAT WAS THE CON ARGUMENT. NOT
THE IF YOU LOOK AT THE AT THE
SECRETARY OF STATE'S PAGES IN A
BALLOT HANDBOOK FOR
PROPOSITIONS. THE FIRST THING
THAT'S LISTED IS THE PRO
ARGUMENT, AND THE SECOND THING
THAT'S LISTED IS THE CON. AND
EVERY OTHER PROPOSITION ON THE
BALLOT AT THAT TIME, IF YOU DO
USE TO SEARCH ENGINE THEN THE
SECRETARY OF STATE'S PART THAT
CAME UP WAS THE PRO ARGUMENT
ONLY ON THE THING THAT REGULATED
INTERNET PROVIDERS, WHICH WAS
OUR PRIVACY LAW. DID THE CON
ARGUMENT COME UP. UM NOW WELL,
THERE MAY BE MANY OTHER
CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE AN ONLINE
PLATFORM IS TRYING TO TARGET
PARTICULAR POLITICAL VIEWPOINT.
IT'S UH UH, WE JUST DON'T HAVE
ANY RULES TO DEAL WITH IT. SO
WHAT SB SEVEN SPORTS SIX DOES IS
THAT IT ENSURES THAT ONLINE
PLATFORMS HAVE MORE
ACCOUNTABILITY BECAUSE IT
REQUIRES DISCLOSURE TO THE F P
P. C. IF THE BUSINESS OR THE
EMPLOYEE DISTRIBUTES POLITICAL
CONTENT, NO MATTER HOW MUCH TIME
IS SPENT. AND CLOSING. THESE
LOOPHOLES WILL HELP US ENSURE
FULL TRANSPARENCY NOW I'VE
WORKED WITH THERE WAS ORIGINALLY
OPPOSITION TO THE BILL BY
TECHNET. CAL CHAMBER FACEBOOK,
GOOGLE BUT I WORKED WITH THEM ON
OUR CURRENT LANGUAGE, AND THEY
HAVE REMOVED THEIR OPPOSITION.
AND I'M COMMITTED TO WORKING
WITH THE PPC OVER THE JULY
RECESS TO ENSURE THAT THE
LANGUAGE REFLECTS OUR INTENT FOR
THE BILL AND THEIR ABILITY TO,
UM TO ENFORCE IT TO UTILIZE IT.
AND I'D LIKE NOW FOR MY
WITNESSES. I HAVE MARVIN DION
FROM COMMON SENSE AND DOUG
SUPERS FROM CALIFORNIANS FOR
CONSUMER PRIVACY. GOOD MORNING
CHAIR MEMBERS. THANKS FOR HAVING
ME TODAY. UM MARVIN DION, VICE
PRESIDENT OF CALIFORNIA POLICY
WITH COMMON SENSE MEDIA AND I'M
HERE TO ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT ON
SB 7 46. THAT COMMON SENSE MEDIA
WERE CONTINUALLY LEARNING MORE
ABOUT HOW ONLINE PLATFORMS AND
THEIR ALGORITHMS OPERATE. WE'RE
ALSO LEARNING ABOUT THESE
PLATFORMS ABILITIES TO INFLUENCE
VOTER BEHAVIOR IN NEW WAYS.
THEY'RE NOT CURRENTLY REQUIRED
TO BE DISCLOSED. WE ACKNOWLEDGE
THAT THE CONSTITUTION GUARANTEES
A BUSINESS THE RIGHT TO
INFLUENCE AN ELECTION. HOWEVER
THE U. S SUPREME COURT HAS ALSO
HELD THAT THERE IS AMPLE REASON
TO REQUIRE PUBLIC DISCLOSURE
DISCLOSURE OF THIS INFLUENCE.
CALIFORNIA ALREADY HAS EXTENSIVE
REPORTING REQUIREMENTS FOR BOTH
MONETARY AND NON MONETARY
CONTRIBUTIONS TO POLITICAL
CAMPAIGNS. AND WHILE THESE
REGULATIONS MAY HAVE BEEN
SUFFICIENT IN THE PAST INCREASES
IN THE AMOUNT OF TIME SPENT
ONLINE, COUPLED WITH INCREASES,
INCREASED LEVELS OF ONLINE
POLITICAL MANIPULATION AND
MISSING FROM INFORMATION. HAVE
ERODED CONFIDENCE IN OUR SACRED
ELECTIONS PROCESS. BY ENSURING
VOTERS ARE INFORMED WHEN THEY
ARE BEING MANIPULATED IN
PARTISAN WAYS WHILE ONLINE SB 7
46 WILL HELP TO RESTORE SOME OF
THE NORM, SOME OF THE LAST
NORMALCY AND CONFIDENCE IN OUR
ELECTIONS PROCESS. IN CLOSING.
I'LL SAY IT'S CALIFORNIANS. WE
MUST ENSURE THAT TECHNOLOGY DOES
NOT INTERFERE WITH OUR
CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO FREE AND
FAIR ELECTIONS. THIS IS
ESPECIALLY TRUE AS WE ARE
ENTERING A PERIOD WHERE
INDIVIDUALS ARE CREATING AND
PURCHASING THEIR OWN SOCIAL
MEDIA PLATFORMS. FOR THESE
REASONS, COMMON SENSE IS PROUD
TO SUPPORT SB 7 46, AND WE
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST FOR I VOTE.
THANK YOU, MR CHAIR AND MEMBERS.
DOUG SUPER IS ONLY HALF OF
CALIFORNIA'S FOR CONSUMER
PRIVACY. CALIFORNIANS FOR
CONSUMER PRIVACY WAS A KEY
PROPONENT OF THE CALIFORNIA
CONSUMER PRIVACY ACT AND THE
CALIFORNIA PRIVACY RIGHTS ACT.
AND WE'RE PLEASED TO BE HERE
TODAY IN SUPPORT OF SB 87. SB 7
46. ADDITIONALLY WE'D LIKE TO
THANK SENATOR SKINNER FOR HER
LEADERSHIP ON THESE ISSUES. TO
DATE, CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS AND
EXPENDITURES HAVE BEEN ONE OF
THE PRIMARY MECHANISM TO ENGAGE
IN POLITICAL ACTIVITY AND
POLITICAL INFLUENCE. AS A RESULT
, CALIFORNIA'S CAMPAIGN LAWS
LARGELY BUILT AROUND DISCLOSURE
OF CAMPAIGN EXPENDITURES AND
LIMITATIONS ON TYPES AND LEVELS
OF CONTRIBUTIONS. AS NOTED BY
SENATOR SKINNER. TECHNOLOGICAL
INNOVATION HAS CREATED THE
POTENTIAL TO INFLUENCE ELECTIONS
WITHOUT DISCLOSURE BECAUSE THE
CURRENT LAWS HAVEN'T KEPT UP
WITH THAT TECHNOLOGY, GIVEN THAT
WE BELIEVE IT IS PRUDENT THAT SB
7 46 UPDATES THE POLITICAL
REFORM ACT TO ENSURE DISCLOSURE
OF THIS TYPE OF ACTIVITY, AND
ULTIMATELY WHILE ENHANCING
INFORMATION AVAILABLE TO THE
ELECTORATE ABOUT WHO IS SEEKING
TO INFLUENCE AN ELECTION. FOR
THESE REASONS, WE RESPECTFULLY
ASK FOR YOUR VOTE. THANK YOU.
THE COMMITTEE DID NOT RECEIVE
ANY FORMAL LETTERS OF OPPOSITION
TO THIS BILL. SINCE WE DON'T
HAVE ANY PRIMARY WITNESSES AND
OPPOSITION WILL MOVE TO
ADDITIONAL WITNESSES AND SUPPORT
UH, OF THIS BILL HERE IN THIS
ROOM. ARE THERE ANY WITNESSES? I
WISH TO REGISTER THEIR SUPPORT
AT THIS TIME. SEEING NONE WILL
MOVE TO THE PHONE LINES.
MODERATOR, DO WE HAVE ANY
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT ON THE
PHONE LINES? YOU ARE IN SUPPORT
OF 7 46, PLEASE PRESS ONE THAN
ZERO. IN LINE 29 YOUR LINE IS
OPEN LINE 29. READY? HICKS,
CALIFORNIA TODAY. ALL RIGHT NOW
THERE'S NO ONE LEFT IN QUÊ.
THANK YOU. MODERATOR IS THERE
ANYBODY HERE IN THIS HEARING
ROOM WHO WISHES TO REGISTER
THEIR OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL?
MODERATOR. CAN WE GO TO THE
PHONE LINES AND SEE IF THERE'S
ANY OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL?
YOU'RE IN OPPOSITION, PLEASE.
PRESS ONE, THEN ZERO. AND AT
THIS TIME THERE WAS NO ONE IN
QUÊ. THANK YOU, MODERATOR.
QUESTIONS, COMMENTS BY COMMITTEE
MEMBERS. THANK YOU, SENATOR FOR
BRINGING THIS IMPORTANT
ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY
BILL. I HAVE SOME CONCERNS. UM I
AGREE THAT THE PROBLEM IS VERY
MUCH WORTH ADDRESSING. I'M NOT
SURE WHETHER GOING FROM 10% TO A
LOWER THRESHOLD OR NO THRESHOLD
. I KNOW NO THRESHOLD WOULD GET
THAT. BUT WOULD IT ALSO PICK UP
A BUNCH OF ARDUOUS? THINGS THAT
ARE DIFFICULT TO COMPLY WITH
DURING A BUSINESS OPERATIONS.
I'M CONFIDENT THOUGH, THAT OVER
THE RECESS YOU AND THE VPC WILL
WORK THROUGH WHAT IS NECESSARY
TO GET THIS TO WHERE YOU NEEDED
TO BE IN WITH THAT. I'M I'M
HAPPY TO SUPPORT TODAY. MADAM
SECRETARY, CAN WE CALL THE ROLL?
THE MOTION IS DO PASS AND BE
REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. BRIAN BRIAN. I
SAY ARTO ARTO AYE BENNETT LOW
LOW I MADE MAYS. I MULLEN
BOWLING. I BLANCA RUBIO RUBIO.
AYE THAT BILL IS OUT 16. THANK
YOU. WITH THAT WE'LL JUMP TO THE
CONSENT CALENDAR REAL QUICK.
THERE'S ONLY ONE BILL ON CONSENT
. IT'S SB 103 BY SENATOR DODD
DOES ANY MEMBER WISH TO REMOVE
AN ITEM FROM THE CONSENT
CALENDAR. MOVED BY MR MAY. 2ND
BY MS RUBIO. MADAM SECRETARY,
CAN WE CALL THE RULE? THE MOTION
IS DO PASS AND BE REFERRED TO
THE COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
WITH RECOMMENDATIONS YOU CONSENT
CALENDAR. BRIAN BRIAN, I SAY
ARTO, AYE, BENNETT. HELLO H
ZES. AMAZIGH MULLEN MULLEN, I
BLANCA RUBIO. BLANCA RUBIO? AYE.
THANK YOU. CONSENT CALENDAR IS
OUT SEEING. NO OTHER MEMBERS IN
THE ROOM. I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD
AND PRESENT. SENATOR GLACIERS
BILL AND TRANSFER AUTHORITY TO
MY VICE CHAIR.
ALRIGHT SO CHAIR BRIAN IS GOING
TO BE PRESENTING SB 794 FOR
SENATOR GLASER WHEN YOU'RE
READY. THINK, MR CHAIR GOOD
MORNING COMMITTEE MEMBERS BEFORE
BEGINNING ON BEHALF OF CINEMA
GRILL ASIA, I WOULD LIKE TO
ACCEPT THE EXCELLENT AMENDMENTS
AND COMMENTS TWO AND FIVE OF THE
ANALYSIS. DEFINITELY CENTER.
GLACIERS COMMITTED THAT HE WILL
WORK WITH THE F PPC TO RESOLVE
ISSUES RELATED TO REPORTING
REQUIREMENTS. SB 794 PERMIT
RECIPIENT TO RETURN THE EXCESS
AMOUNTOF CONTRIBUTION OVER THE
LIMIT WITHOUT RETURNING THE
ENTIRE CONTRIBUTION. THE
POLITICAL REFORM ACT REQUIRES A
COMMITTEE THAT RECEIVES A CHECK
THAT EXCEEDS THE CONTRIBUTION
LIMITS ESTABLISHED BY THE PR RAY
TO RETURN. THE ENTIRE
CONTRIBUTION OR BE IN VIOLATION
OF THE LAW. IF THAT COMMITTEE
DEPOSITS THE ENTIRE CHECK, THE
RECIPIENT COMMITTEE WOULD BE IN
VIOLATION OF THE TIARA EVEN IF
THE COMMITTEE REIMBURSES THE
DONOR FOR THE EXCESS AMOUNT. THE
SITUATION IS DIFFERENT FOR
COMMITTEES RECEIVING DONATIONS.
WE ONLINE PLATFORMS BECAUSE PPC
REGULATIONS ALLOW THE RETURN OF
A CONTRIBUTION OR PORTION
THEREOF TO EXCEED THAT EXCEEDS
INAPPLICABLE CONTRIBUTION LIMIT
WITHIN 14 DAYS OF RECEIPT. A
CERTAIN CONDITIONS ARE MET. A B
794 IS ABOUT PROVIDING A SIMILAR
SOLUTION FOR CHECK RECIPIENTS. I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR I
VOTE. THANK YOU, AND IT DOESN'T
LOOK LIKE WE HAVE ANY WITNESSES
, UH, PRIMARY WITNESSES. SO DO
WE HAVE ANY WITNESSES IN SUPPORT
OF THIS MEASURE IN THE ROOM? IF
NOT, I THINK WHAT WE'RE GOING TO
DO IS GO AHEAD AND TAKE
OPPOSITION WITNESSES, WHICH
WHICH THERE ARE NONE LISTED. ANY
OPPOSITION WITNESSES IN THE
ROOM. SEEING NONE. WE WILL GO TO
THE PHONE LINES FOR WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION OF URINE.
SUPPORTER OPPOSITION JUST PLEASE
. STATE YOUR NAME THE AGENCY YOU
REPRESENT OR YOURSELF. AND YOUR
SUPPORTER OPPOSITION TO THE
BILL. 18 T OPERATOR CAN GO AHEAD
AND OPEN THE LINES. THANK YOU IF
YOU ARE IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION
OF 794, PLEASE PRESS ONE THAN
ZERO. AND AT THIS TIME THERE IS
NO ONE IN Q. THEN I WILL BRING
IT BACK TO COMMITTEE MEMBERS FOR
ANY QUESTIONS OR CLARIFICATIONS.
COMMENTS. IT DOESN'T APPEAR THAT
WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS SO YOU CAN
GO AHEAD AND CLOSE, MR BRIAN.
THIS IS A THOUGHTFUL BILL ON
BEHALF OF CENTER GLASER
RESPECTIVELY. SP I VOTE. YEAH IT
IS A THOUGHTFUL BILL. IT'S A
GOOD BILL, AND WE REALLY
APPRECIATE HIS EFFORTS ON THIS.
SO, UH, MADAM SECRETARY GOING TO
COLORADO? OH, THE MOTION IN THE
SECOND. WHO IS THE MOTION? IT
WAS MR MAYS. AND THE SECOND, I
THINK WAS MR LOWE. I THOUGHT
THAT WAS THE ORDER IN WHICH IT
WENT. OKAY? RUBIO. OKAY, SECOND
WAS RUBIO. ALRIGHT, MADAM
SECRETARY. IF YOU COULD CALL IT
ROLL, THE MOTION IS TO PASS AS
AMENDED. BRIAN I, BRIAN I SARTO
HéG
MAZE. MACE, I, MULLEN MULLEN. I
BLANCA RUBIO. BLANCA RUBIO? AYE.
OKAY THAT BUILDS OUT WITH 70
WILL HOLD IT OPEN. DO WE HAVE
ANY OTHER? NO WE DON'T HAVE ANY
OTHER MEMBERS WERE ALL HERE.
THAT'S GREAT. HEY, UH SO WE'RE
GONNA MOVE ALONG TO THE NEXT
BILL. THAT'S SB 1 14 39, ALSO BY
GLASER BEING PRESENTED BY CHAIR
BRIAN. MR BRIAN, WHEN YOU'RE
READY. THANK YOU. MR CHAIR, SB
14 39 WOULD ENSURE THAT PAY TO
PLAY PROHIBITIONS THAT APPLY TO
STATE AGENCY APPOINTEES OR
APPOINTED LOCAL OFFICIALS. WHEN
APPROVING A LICENSED PERMIT OR
ENTITLEMENT FOR USE ALSO APPLY
TO LOCAL ELECTED OFFICIALS WHEN
ACTING IN AN IDENTICAL CAPACITY
11 AC PROHIBITS AN OFFICER OF AN
AGENCY FROM ACCEPTING TO
LISTENING OR DIRECTING A
CONTRIBUTION OF MORE THAN 250
FROM ANY PARTY PARTICIPANT. OR
THEIR AGENTS AND CERTAIN
INSTANCES WHEN THE OFFICER KNOWS
HE OR SHE HAS REASON TO KNOW
THAT THE PARTICIPANT HAS
VIOLATED PARTICIPANT HAS
FINANCIAL INTERESTS. THIS
PROHIBITION IS IN EFFECT WHILE
PROCEEDING INVOLVING A LICENSED
PERMANENT OTHER ENTITLEMENT FOR
USES PENDING AND FOR THREE
MONTHS FOLLOWING THE DATE OF
FINAL DECISION IS RENDERED. THIS
PROHIBITION APPLIES TO STATE AND
LOCAL AGENCIES COMPRISED OF
APPOINTED OFFICIALS WHO MIGHT BE
RUNNING FOR OFFICE. HOWEVER
UNDER CURRENT LAW, LOCAL
AGENCIES WHOSE MEMBERS ARE
DIRECTLY ELECTED BY VOTERS AND
WHO MIGHT BE RUNNING FOR
REELECTION. ARE NOT INCLUDED IN
THIS PROHIBITION. SP 14 39
EXTENDS THIS PROHIBITION TO
COVER LOCAL ELECTED OFFICIALS.
WITH ME TO TESTIFY TODAY IS
PEDRO HERNANDEZ WITH CALIFORNIA
COMMON CAUSE AND MIKE BELOW
REPRESENTING COVERED GOVERNMENT
FOR CALIFORNIA. AH WELCOME,
GENTLEMEN. WHEN WHOEVER WANTS TO
GO FIRST PRIMARY WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT. GO AHEAD. GOOD MORNING,
FEATHER HERNANDEZ, LEGAL AND
POLICY DIRECTOR OF CALIFORNIA
COMMON CAUSE WE'RE PROUD TO BE
THE LEADING ORGANIZATION AND
SUPPORT OF SB 14 39, A COMMON
SENSE REFORM THAT WOULD CLOSE A
PAY TO PLAY LOOPHOLE AND THE COW
AND THE POLITICAL REFORM ACT. SP
14 39 WOULD ENSURE PAY TO PLAY
PROVISIONS THAT APPLY TO STATE
AGENCY APPOINTEES OR APPOINTED
LOCAL OFFICIALS WHEN APPROVING A
LICENSED PERMIT OR ENTITLEMENT
FOR USE ALSO APPLY TO LOCAL
ELECTED OFFICIALS. 15 IN THE
SAME IDENTICAL CAPACITY. FOR
EXAMPLE, AN APPOINTEE OF A
PLANNING COMMISSION THAT MAKES
RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE BROADER
CITY COUNCIL ON DEVELOPMENT
PROJECTS WHO HAPPENS TO BE
RUNNING FOR CITY COUNCIL IS
PROHIBITED UNDER CURRENT LAW
FROM ACEPTING MORE THAN 250
FROM A DEVELOPER WITH VISIT WITH
BUSINESS BEFORE THE PLANNING
COMMISSION. BUT WHEN THE VERY
SAME PROJECT AND THE VERY SAME
DEVELOPER GO BEFORE THE CITY
COUNCIL FOR A VOTE CITY COUNCIL
MEMBERS ARE NOT SUBJECT TO THAT
LIMITATION AND CAN TAKE WELL
OVER 250 FROM THE DEVELOPER. WE
HAVE EXAMPLES OF, UM SEVERAL
SUCH CONTRIBUTIONS IN THE TENS
OF THOUSANDS. THIS CREATES
MASSIVE PROBLEMS AT THE LOCAL
LEVEL. UM. ONE EXAMPLE HERE IS
IN 2021. AN INVESTIGATION SHOWED
HOW CONTRACTOR MONEY FLOWS IN
THE CITY OF HUNTINGTON'S PARK
OVER A THREE YEAR PERIOD. OVER
30% OF CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS
THAT HUNTED AND PARK COUNCIL
MEMBERS CAME FROM EIGHT
COMPANIES WITH CONTRACTS PENDING
BEFORE THE CITY. MOST IF NOT
ALL, THE CONTRIBUTIONS THAT
QUESTIONS WOULD HAVE NOT BEEN
ALLOWED IF SP 14 39 WERE ALREADY
LONG. THE L A TIMES REPORTED IN
2015. WHEN THE ST LOUIS RAMS
WERE FINALIZING A NEW STADIUM IN
THE CITY OF INGLEWOOD, THE OWNER
OF THE RAMS AND HIS ASSOCIATES
CONTRIBUTED OVER 100,000 TO 3
MEMBERS OF INGLEWOOD CITY
COUNCIL. COMBINE THOSE THREE
MEMBERS CONSTITUTED A MAJORITY
OF VOTES NEEDED TO APPROVE THE
PERMITS TO BUILD WHAT IS NOW THE
LARGEST STADIUM AND NFL. THE
CONTRIBUTIONS DESCRIBED HERE
WOULD HAVE BEEN A CABINET $250
UNDER SP 14 39. 2021
INVESTIGATION SHOWED THAT
CANNABIS VENDORS CONTRIBUTED
OVER 100,002, MEMBERS OF THE AL
MONT CITY COUNCIL AND TWO PAC TO
SUPPORT THEM. THOSE VENDORS
LATER RECEIVE EXCLUSIVE
COMMERCIAL LICENSES TO SELL
CANNABIS IN THE CITY. IF AS P 14
39 HAD BEEN LOST, THE CITY
OFFICIALS WOULD HAVE BEEN WOULD
HAVE HAD TO EITHER ALREADY
RETURNED ALL OF THE CAMPAIGN
CONTRIBUTIONS OR RECUSE
THEMSELVES FROM VOTING. ON THE
RELEVANT LICENSES. UNDER CURRENT
LAW PERSON SEEKING A CONTRACT
PERMIT OR LICENSE TO OR URGENT
CANNOT GIVE A CAMPAIGN
CONTRIBUTION OVER TO NORTH AND
5200 POINTED LOCAL OFFICIAL
WHILE THE CONTRACT PERMIT OR
LICENSE IS PENDING, AND FOR
THREE MONTHS AFTER UNDER SB 14
39, A PERSON SEEKING A CONTRACT
PERIMETER LICENSE OR THEIR AGENT
OR THEIR SPOUSE WOULD NOT HAVE
BEEN ABLE TO GIVE A CAMPAIGN
CONTRIBUTION OVER 252 THE
APPOINTMENT UP YOUR BECAUSE THE
OTHER GENTLEMAN CAN HAVE A
COUPLE OF MINUTES, OKAY? THING
FOR 12 MONTHS AND OKAY, SO
CALIFORNIA DESERVES TO HAVE
CONFIDENCE IN THEIR LOCAL
OFFICIALS AND CLOSING THIS PAY
TO PLAY LOOPHOLE WOULD PROVIDE
THE APPROPRIATE ACCOUNTABILITY.
WE RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR
ABLE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR.
IF YOU CAN GO THE EXTRA THE WILL
GIVE YOU A LITTLE TWO MINUTES. I
WON'T NEED IT. MR OKAY. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR
CHAIR AND MEMBERS MIKE BELOTE,
SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF GOVERNOR
FOR CALIFORNIA. WE THINK THIS
MAKES GOOD COMMON SENSE. I'M
MINDFUL THAT MANY OF YOU HAVE
SERVED ON IN VARIOUS CAPACITIES
AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT, WHETHER
ELECTED AND OR APPOINTED, SO YOU
KNOW A LOT MORE ABOUT THIS THAN
I DO. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE
THAT THE COVERAGE FOR ELECTED
OFFICIALS MAKES GOOD COMMON
SENSE. I WAS FRANKLY A LITTLE
SURPRISED WHEN I LEARNED ABOUT
THE BILL, BUT ABOUT THE HOLE IN
THE BILL. SO I THINK GOVERNMENT
FOR CALIFORNIA, WHICH SEEKS TO,
UM HELP YOU LEGISLATE IN THE
COMMON INTEREST, IS PROUD TO
SUPPORT IT AND WE'D ASKED FOR
AND I VOTE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
. ARE THERE ANYBODY IN THE ROOM
AT THIS TIME WHO WOULD LIKE TO
SPEAK AND SUPPORT WORD ANNOUNCED
THAT THEY SUPPORT. NAME AGENCY
AND YOUR SUPPORT. GOOD MORNING,
ADRIANA CHAMPAGNE WITH THE
LEAGUE OF WOMEN, VOTERS OF
CALIFORNIA AND STRONG SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. MORNING
AT TRENT LANG, CALIFORNIA YEMENI
CAMPAIGN AND STRONG SUPPORT.
VERY GOOD. AND AT THIS TIME
WE'LL GO TO THE PHONE LINES FOR
ANY ADDITIONAL SUPPORT. IT'S 18
HE UP? DO YOU HAVE ANYBODY ON
THE PHONE LINES FOR SUPPORT IF
YOU ARE IN SUPPORT OF 14 39,
PLEASE PRESS ONE THAN ZERO.
COULD BE JUST A MOMENT. WITH
LINE 17 LINE 17 YOUR LINE IS
OPEN. HI THIS IS EVAN MAINTAINED
WITH VOICES FOR PROGRESS,
CALLING AND STRONG SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. LINE 19. YOUR LINE IS
OPEN. YES SEAN MCMORRIS CHAPTER
PRESIDENT WITH REPRESENT US LOSS
ANGELES SAN GABRIEL VALLEY. WE
ARE IN STRONG SUPPORT OF THE
BILL. LINE 29. YOUR LINE IS
OPEN. RANDI CITIZEN OF
SACRAMENTO, CALIFORNIA AND
STRONG SUPPORT. LINE, 21, YOUR
LINE IS OPEN. HI ELIZABETH
SKINNER, LOS ANGELES STRONG
SUPPORT. MY NUMBER 13. YOUR LINE
IS OPEN. HEY, LINDSAY MCCONNELL
ON BEHALF OF THE FAIR POLITICAL
PRACTICES COMMISSION IN SUPPORT
OF SB 14 39. AND LINE NUMBER 28.
YOUR LINE IS OPEN. HI JENNIFER
TANNER. INVISIBLE CALIFORNIA
GREEN TEAM IN SUPPORT OF THIS
BILL. THANK YOU. AND THERE'S NO
ONE LEFT IN QUÊ. OKAY THAT
BRINGS US TO OPPOSITION. IT
DOESN'T LOOK LIKE WE HAVE ANY
PRIMARY OPPOSITION WITNESSES. DO
WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE ROOM THAT
OPPOSES THE BILL? IF SO, YOU CAN
GET UP TO THE MICROPHONE AND
ANNOUNCED THAT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE
ANYBODY IS SCRAMBLING TO THE
MICROPHONE SO WE WILL MOVE ON TO
THE 18 T OPERATOR. DO WE HAVE
ANYBODY ON THE LINE THAT WISHES
TO OPPOSE THE BILL? IF YOU'RE
OPPOSED, PLEASE PRESS ONE THAN
ZERO. LINE NUMBER NINE. YOUR
LINE IS OPEN NINE. THIS IS
MICHAEL LEVINSON. I WAS NOT
CALLED IN SUPPORT. I AM STRONGLY
IN SUPPORT FROM CLEAN MONEY.
THANK YOU, SIR. NEXT SPEAKER.
AND THERE'S NOBODY LEFT IN. Q
ALRIGHT, THAT BRINGS IT BACK TO
THE COMMITTEE FOR QUESTIONS, MR
MAYS. THANK YOU, MR VICE CHAIR.
UM BEFORE I TOOK THIS JOB AS AN
ASSEMBLY MEMBER, I WAS THE CHIEF
OF STAFF FOR COUNTY SUPERVISOR.
AND UH, IT WAS MY JOB, OF
COURSE, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD
A SYSTEM IN PLACE TO TRACK THESE
THINGS FOR MY THEN MY THEN BOSS
, AND IT'S ACTUALLY A PRETTY
COMPLICATED THING TO DO ON ITS
FACE WHEN YOU READ THIS IT SEEMS
AS THOUGH IT'S HEY, IT'S NOT
THAT BIG OF A DEAL, RIGHT IF YOU
GET ELECTED TO THE COUNTY BOARD
OF SUPERVISORS YOU CAN RECEIVE
AS AS MANY CONTRIBUTIONS AS YOU
AS YOU WANT TO KNOW, DIFFERENT
THAN THAN THAN THE RULES FOR US.
HOWEVER IF YOU'RE ON THE LOCAL
TRANSPORTATION AGENCY NOW THAT
YOU'RE ON THAT AGENCY ANY ANY
ISSUE THAT'S BEFORE THAT AGENCY
THIS THEN THIS THEN APPLIES. AND
SO YOU PUT A SYSTEM IN PLACE AS
WE DID WHERE YOU HAD THE
FUNDRAISER, PUTTING INTO A
DATABASE ALL THE CONTRIBUTIONS
OF CHECKS THAT HAD BEEN BEEN
RECEIVED, AND AT THE SAME TIME
YOU HAD, SO THERE'S THE
GOVERNMENT BECAUSE GOVERNMENT
EMPLOYEES CAN'T DO CAMPAIGN
WORK. AND YOUR CAMPAIGN STAFF.
SO WE HAD THE SYSTEM THAT
EVERYBODY WAS SORT OF INSERTING
INTO TO CREATE SORT OF A UM, A
WHAT'S WHAT'S THE TERM? I'M
LOOKING FOR A PLACE TO BE ABLE
TO SEE IF ANY OF THESE CONFLICTS
ARE ARE ARE THERE AND WHAT I'M
CONCERNED WITH IS THE SPOUSE,
UM, PORTION OF THIS. WHAT WE
WOULD END UP DOING IS GOING IN
AND DOING AN EASY SEARCH. OF THE
LAST NAME OF THE CONTRIBUTOR.
IMAGINE IF THE SPOUSES LAST NAME
WAS DIFFERENT THAN THE ORIGINAL
CONTRIBUTOR. HOW WOULD YOU KNOW
THAT? THAT'S THE CASE NOW? OF
COURSE, THERE'S ALWAYS PEOPLE ON
THE OUTSIDE THAT MIGHT KNOW
THESE SORTS OF THINGS. YOU CAN
DEPOSIT A CHECK ALL OF A SUDDEN
END UP FILING THAT PPC
VIOLATION. OH, IT'S A SPOUSE
THAT WROTE YOUR CHECK. UH YOU
KNOW, THREE MONTHS AFTER, OF
COURSE. NOW IT'S GOING TO BE 12
MONTHS AFTER. MAYBE IT'S ON THE
11TH MONTH. AND YOU CHECKED AND
YOU LOOKED, YOU KNOW, LIKE I
KNOW IT'S TOTALLY CLEAN. IT'S
TOTALLY FINE. AND NOW IT'S NOT,
AND THAT PERSON HAS A STAIN ON
THEIR POLITICAL RECORD FOR THE
REST OF THEIR LIFE, AS YOU KNOW
THAT THAT'S THE WAY THESE THINGS
WORK. SO ON ITS FACE. THIS SEEMS
LIKE A GOOD GOVERNMENT MEASURE.
UNDERSTAND THOUGH THAT IS
EXCEPTIONALLY COMPLICATED. WHEN
YOU GO, GO GO THROUGH THESE
THINGS. AND SO I JUST HOPE THAT
THE COMMITTEE AND LOOKING AT
THIS HAS HAS GONE THROUGH THE
ACTUAL PRACTICAL APPLICATION OF
PUTTINGSOMETHING LIKE THIS IN
PLACE BECAUSE I DO THINK IT'S
RIGHT. FOR BUT FOR. PURSUING
GOOD PEOPLE WHO HAVE MADE AN
HONEST MISTAKE THAT COULD HAVE A
SERIOUS IMPACT ON ON THEIR LIVES
AS ELECTED OFFICIALS, SO I JUST
WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE
CAREFUL OF THAT. MR BENNETT. UM
I WOULD LIKE TO COMPLIMENT
SENATOR GLAZER FOR TRYING TO
CLOSE THIS LOOPHOLE AND HIS
COHORT AND CRIME HERE AS CHAIR
OF THIS COMMITTEE AND MR BRIAN.
UM AND I CERTAINLY AGREE THAT
THERE IS AN ISSUE AND I AND I
NOTE THAT THE CHAIR HAS WORKED
OUT AN AGREEMENT WITH MR GLASER
TO KEEP WORKING AS THIS BILL
MOVES FORWARD ON THE SPOUSE
ISSUE. BUT IT IS TOO IMPORTANT
OF A LOOPHOLES WHO NOT CLOSE AT
THIS POINT IN TIME AND WORK ON
THAT. SO I'M REALLY GLAD THAT
THIS LOOPHOLE IS GETTING CLOSED.
IT MADE NO SENSE TO ME AS A
LOCAL ELECTED OFFICIAL. TO HAVE
ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD
OF SUPERVISORS WHO SERVED ON THE
TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION NOT
BEING ABLE TO VOTE ON SOMETHING
ALL ANOTHER MEMBER GOT THE SAME
CONTRIBUTION AND COULD VOTE ON
IT. AND SO THIS IS, I THINK A
VERY APPROPRIATE AND THE
EXAMPLES YOU GIVE THAT SENATOR
GLASER GAVE IN. HIS COMMENTS ARE
ARE REALLY AGREE GIS EXAMPLES OF
THE CORRUPTING INFLUENCE OF
THESE CONTRIBUTIONS. SO MY
COMPLIMENTS RIGHT? MR RUBIO AND
I'LL MOVE THE RECOMMENDED ACTION
. YES THANK YOU. AND I KNOW
SENATOR LEISURE IS NOT HERE. I
WILL HAVE THIS CONVERSATION WITH
HIM. BUT SOME OF THOSE CITIES
THAT YOU MENTIONED WERE ALL IN
MY AREA AND THE OTHER CONCERN
THAT I HAVE, AND I KNOW THIS IS
NOT NECESSARILY IN THIS BILL,
BUT THE CANNABIS INDUSTRY IS ALL
CASH. THEY DON'T HAVE AN ABILITY
TO WRITE CHECKS. AND SO WHAT I
HAVE SEEN IS THESE. SOME OF
THESE ELECTED OFFICIALS
RECEIVING CASH CONTRIBUTIONS AND
SO WHO KNOWS IF THEY REPORT THEM
OR NOT, AND SO I HOPE THAT WE
CAN TALK ABOUT EXPANDING, UM,
THE CONTRIBUTIONS OF FROM THE
CANNABIS INDUSTRY BECAUSE AGAIN
, SOME OF THESE THEY CANNOT
WRITE CHECKS, BUT THEY GIVE CASH
CONTRIBUTIONS, AND THERE IS NO
WAY OF TRACKING THAT AND MR
CHAIR AND I'LL HAVE A HAVE A SIT
DOWN WITH YOU AS WELL. BUT UM,
YOU KNOW A LOT OF THESE, UH,
CONSULTANTS. AND LOBBYISTS.
CANNABIS LOBBYISTS ARE NOT
REGISTERED. AND SO THERE IS NO
MECHANISM. UM ALL OF THE OTHER
LOBBYISTS AND CONSULTANTS HAVE
TO REGISTER UNDER FP PC, BUT THE
CANNABIS CONSULTANTS OR OR
LOBBYISTS DON'T REGISTER. AND SO
HOW DO WE TRACK THOSE
CONTRIBUTIONS AGAIN. NOT UH,
SPECIFIC TO THIS BILL, BUT I
THINK IT'S ALONG THE LINES OF
CLOSING THOSE LOOPHOLES AS WELL
. AND MR CHAIR WOULD LOVE TO
HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH YOU
ABOUT HOW WHAT WE CAN DO I SEE
TOO MANY TIMES AGAIN. BOTH
CITIES YOU MENTIONED ARE MOSTLY
IN MY AREA, AND I'VE SEEN YOU
KNOW I DON'T HAVE. I CAN'T PROVE
IT. BUT I'VE SEEN WHERE YOU KNOW
ALL OF A SUDDEN THIS. THIS
COUNCIL MEMBER HAS A BRAND NEW
CAR AND CAN'T FIGURE OUT WHY.
YOU KNOW WHERE THEY GOT IT? UM
NOT MY JURISDICTION, NOT MY
ISSUE PER SE TO INVESTIGATE, BUT
I THINK IF WE DID SOMETHING
ALONG THE LINES OF CLOSING THAT
LOOPHOLE, OR WHERE, SOMEHOW THE
CANNABIS LOBBYIST WOULD HAVE TO
REGISTER OR, UM, TRACK THAT
MONEY IS, YOU KNOW UP TO BUT
DISCUSSION, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO
JUST MAKE SURE THAT MOVING
FORWARD. WE CAN TALK ABOUT HOW
WE CAN CLOSE THAT LOOPHOLE
BECAUSE I THINK IT'S UH, BEING
ABUSED BY A LOT OF THE LOCAL
ELECTED AS WE HAVE SEEN IN SOME
INDICTMENTS HAPPEN, BUT I WOULD
LIKE TO CONTINUE THAT
CONVERSATION AND I OBVIOUSLY I
WILL SUPPORT THE BILL. BUT I
WANTED TO BRING IT UP BECAUSE I
THINK IT'S THE CONTEXT THAT WE
SHOULD BE HAVING THIS
CONVERSATION. I APPRECIATE THAT,
AND I THINK I KNOW FOR MYSELF
AND PROBABLY SEVERAL OTHER
MEMBERS OF THIS COMMITTEE. I
THINK WE'RE VERY INTERESTED IN
CLOSING LOOPHOLES AND INCREASING
ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY
. UM TO MY COLLEAGUE FROM PALM
SPRINGS, THE SPOUSAL ISSUES
DIRECTLY WHAT WE FLAGGED AS
SOMETHING WE WANTED TO WORK
THROUGH AND HAD CONCERNS ABOUT
AND HAVE GREAT CONFIDENCE IN THE
AUTHOR. WILLINGNESS AND ABILITY
TO CLEAR THAT UP BY THE TIME IT
HITS THE FLOOR, AND I
RESPECTFULLY. ASK YOUR RIVAL.
WAS THAT YOUR CLOTHES? THAT WAS
MY CLOSING ANSWER, BECAUSE,
YEAH, I DIDN'T GET TO COMMENT
YET. IF YOU IF YOU'LL ALLOW ME
TO COMMENT AFTER YOUR CLOTHES.
THIS IS YOUR COMMITTEE, SIR. ALL
RIGHT. SO UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE
SEEN A FEW OF THESE BILLS COME
THROUGH, AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT
THEY'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE THIS.
LIKE WHACK A MOLE. AH YEAH, YOU
ELIMINATE IT HERE, AND IT POPS
UP SOMEWHERE ELSE, AND SOMETIMES
IT POPS UP SOMEWHERE ELSE. WHAT?
WHERE IT'S EVEN LESS
TRANSPARENT. UM YOU KNOW, IN THE
CITIES IN SOME OF THE CASES THAT
YOU HAVE, I'M WELL FAMILIAR WITH
SOME OF THOSE, UH, THOSE CITIES
AND SOME OF THEM WERE CHARTER
CITIES, AND THEY KIND OF DO SOME
SOME INTERESTING, INTERESTING
THINGS THAT UM, I WOULD. IT'S
ALMOST LIKE I WOULD JUST RATHER
KNOW WHO'S GIVEN WHAT TO WHO.
THEN HAVING A, YOU KNOW, A PACK
COMMITTEE THAT IS DOING THE SAME
THING WITHOUT HAVING TO DIRECTLY
CAN'T CONTRIBUTE. AND SO YOU
KNOW, I YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF A
MIXED BASKET HERE BECAUSE ON THE
LOCAL LEVEL AND I'VE BEEN ON THE
LOCAL LEVEL TWO YOU KNOW IF
YOU'RE GIVING IF YOU'RE GIVING
$250 TO A CITY THAT HAS
COUNTERED CONTRIBUTION LIMITS OF
$1000. SO YOU KNOW IS THAT BIG
DETERRENT? ALL IT SHOWS IS YES.
THAT PERSON SUPPORTS A IF YOU'RE
ON THE DIET THAT PERSON SUPPORTS
YOU. YOU KNOW THEY SUPPORT YOU.
AND YOU KNOW, THEY'LL PROBABLY
SPEND THE MONEY ON THE SIDE. IF
THEY'RE YOU KNOW IF THEY'RE
LIMITED TO THE 250. AND IN IT
ALSO, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY
TARGETS THE DEVELOPMENT AND
BUSINESS COMMUNITIES BECAUSE
THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE
MATTERS BEFORE AN AGENCY OR A
COUNCIL. AND THANK YOU FOR MR
CHAD MAYES FOR BRINGING UP THE
SPOUSAL THING BECAUSE AT THAT
REALLY LIMITS IF THEY'RE DOING A
BUSINESS, UM IF THEY'RE TRYING
TO OPEN AN OFFICE OR ANYTHING
LIKE THAT THAT BECOMES
PROBLEMATIC. THERE ARE SO MANY
WAYS TO GET IN TROUBLE FOR
PEOPLE THAT DON'T MEAN TO DO ANY
HARM OR AREN'T TRYING TO BE
SNEAKY OR ANYTHING. UM AND SO,
SO IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW FOR ME. I
FEEL LIKE A LOT OF THIS IS JUST
WHACK THEM OFF. AND UM AND I
WIND UP NOT HAVING THE
INFORMATION I WANT ABOUT WHOEVER
I'M TRYING TO ELECT T A CITY
COUNCILOR OR SOMETHING. I'D
RATHER HAVE THE LIST OF WHO
CONTRIBUTES AND HOW MUCH BECAUSE
FROM THAT I CAN GLEAN WHO HAS A
LOT OF INFLUENCE AND WHO
DOESN'T. AND SO I'M PROBABLY
LAYING OFF THIS BILL. UM, BUT,
YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE ANY
EFFORTS TO TRY TO RAIN IN AND
LET PEOPLE KNOW WHO'S WHO'S
SUPPORTING WHO. AND BUT I JUST
DON'T WANT TO HANDICAP SOME
PEOPLE OVER OTHERS OR JUST
PUSHING THEM INTO A AREA WHERE
NOBODY RALLY SEES WHERE THAT
MONEY IS COMING FROM. SO WITH
THAT, MR BRYAN, YOU'VE ALREADY
CLOSED. DID YOU WANT TO CLOSE
AGAIN? RIVAL? ABSOLUTELY. IF I
IF I COULD I JUST IT'S SUCH AN
IMPORTANT ISSUE THAT, UH, THE
ISSUE OF CAMPAIGN LIMITS AND ALL
OF THAT, AND, UM THE ARGUMENT
THAT YOU MAKE ABOUT TRANSPARENCY
IS ONE THAT IS TRADITIONALLY
MADE. WHENEVER WE TRY TO DO
SOMETHING THAT THIS IS JUST
WHACK HIM ALL OF THAT. I JUST
WANT TO GET OUT THERE FOR THE
RECORD THAT THE OTHER SIDE OF
THAT IS THAT TRANSPARENCY,
PARTICULARLY LATE IN A CAMPAIGN
, IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY LIMITS OR
ANYTHING ELSE. AND YOU HAVE
THESE BIG CONTRIBUTIONS COMING
IN THIS ENORMOUS BURDEN ON THE
PERSON BEING ATTACKED BY THAT
MONEY OR BEING DISADVANTAGED BY
THAT MONEY TO BE ABLE IN THE
LAST FEW DAYS OR WEEKS OF A
CAMPAIGN TO EVEN COMMUNICATE
THAT TO ALL OF THE VOTERS,
PARTICULARLY IF THEY DON'T HAVE
THE RESOURCES SOMEBODY ELSE
DOES. SO THAT IS A TRADITIONAL
ARGUMENT THAT HAS BEEN MADE. AND
IF WE TOOK THAT ARGUMENT, EVERY
TIME THAT IT WAS MADE, WE WOULD
HAVE NO CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTION
LIMITS. WE'D HAVE NOTHING. WE'D
ONLY HAVE DISCLOSURE. UH AND I
JUST THINK THAT IT JUST DOESN'T
WORK PRACTICALLY TO RELY ONLY ON
DISCLOSURE, AND I JUST
RESPECTFULLY WANTED TO OFFER A
APPRECIATE THAT HERE TO DEBATE
ANYMORE THE THING BUT THAT CAN
HAPPEN WITH AN I E AS WELL SO
ANYWAY. APPRECIATE THAT WITH
THAT, MADAM SECRETARY CAN
COLORADO WHO WAS THE SECOND ON
THIS? SOMEBODY'S SECOND. THANK
YOU, MR RUBIO. THROUGH THIS. THE
MOTION IS DO PASS AND BE
REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. BRIAN BRIAN. I
SAY ARTO ARTO IS NOT VOTING
BENNETT BENNETT. I LO, I LO I
MAZES. MAY'S NOT VOTING MULLEN
MULLEN, I BLANCA RUBIO. BLANCA
RUBIO? AYE. 20 ALRIGHT. THAT
ITEM IS OUT 50. YEAH. NICE TO
SEE YOU, MR CHAIR. I KNOW IT'S
BEEN IT'S BEEN A BUSY WEEK. IT S
P 13 52. YOU MAYBE GET ONE READY
. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. THANK
YOU. MEMBERS. UM CAMPAIGN
CONTRIBUTION DISCLOSURES ARE A
FUNDAMENTAL TRANSPARENCY TOOL
USED TO SHED LIGHT ON
INDIVIDUALS AND ENTITIES.
PROVIDING FINANCIAL SUPPORT TO
CANDIDATES REPUBLIC OFFICE AND
IT'S CRITICAL FOR THE PUBLIC TO
KNOW WHAT INFLUENCES AH ARE OUT
THERE? UH AS AS PEOPLE KNOW, IN
CALIFORNIA CANDIDATES FOR STATE
ELECTED OFFICE, INCLUDING THE
LEGISLATURE ARE REQUIRED TO
REPORT CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS
THAT THEY RECEIVE ON SEMI ANNUAL
REPORTS. TO THE SECRETARY OF
STATE IN JANUARY AND AUGUST. IN
ELECTION YEARS, THEY HAVE TO
FILE TOO PRE ELECTION REPORTS.
THE FIRST FILED 40 DAYS BEFORE
AN ELECTION. THE SECOND IS 12
DAYS BEFORE AN ELECTION. BUT THE
ISSUE WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS
HERE IS THE TIMELINE. FOR FILING
SEMIANNUAL AND ELECTION PERIOD
STATEMENTS RESULTS IN SOME
CONTRIBUTIONS GOING MANY, MANY
MONTHS BEFORE THEY MUST BE
REPORTED DURING A REALLY
CRITICAL TIME IN THE DEVELOPMENT
OF A CAMPAIGN. SO FOR JUNE
PRIMARY ELECTIONS, THERE'S A
FOUR MONTH GAP BETWEEN THE
JANUARY SEMIANNUAL REPORT AND
THE FIRST PRE ELECTION STATEMENT
IN LATE APRIL AND THIS PERIOD,
VOTERS MAY HAVE ALREADY RECEIVED
CAMPAIGN ADVERTISEMENTS AND
MAILERS, BUT THEY ONLY HAVE
ACCESS TO MONTHS OLD
CONTRIBUTION REPORTS. SO THE
BULK OF THE MONEY FUNDING THE
STUFF THAT'S COMING TO THEM.
THEY HAVE NO IDEA. AH YOU KNOW
WHERE IT'S COMING FROM PUBLIC
ACCESS TO POLITICAL CAMPAIGN
CONTRIBUTION REPORTS FROM I KNOW
, I KNOW THAT EVERYONE IN THIS
COMMITTEE BELIEVES IS ESSENTIAL
TO BUILDING ACCOUNTABILITY,
INTEREST IN OUR DEMOCRACY, AND
THE BILL SEEKS TO STRENGTHEN
THESE THESE CORE PRINCIPLES BY
ADDING AN ADDITIONAL PRE
ELECTION REPORT 70 DAYS BEFORE
AN ELECTION TO PROVIDE MORE
TIMELY CONTRIBUTION. OF YOUR
CONTRIBUTION DISCLOSURES TO
VOTERS. I WILL, SAY THE ANALYST
. THE ANALYSIS NOTES THAT AS THE
STATE SHIFTS BETWEEN MARCH AND
JUNE PRIMARIES, WHICH I KNOW IS
VERY CONFUSING FOR ALL OF US. WE
RUN INTO THE ISSUE OF CREATING A
REDUNDANT REPORT FOR MARCH
PRIMARIES THAT WOULD OVERLAP
WITH THE SEMIANNUAL REPORT.
WE'RE HAPPY, YOU KNOW, WE DO
WANT TO WORK WITH YOU TO JUST
GET THAT ADDRESSED, UM, TO MAKE
SURE THAT THERE'S NOT A
REDUNDANCY. AH ANYHOW, WE'VE GOT
MIKE BULLARD AND CLIFF HERE,
TOO. TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE
BILL. WELCOME BACK. YEAH THANK
YOU, MR CHAIR. VERY VERY BRIEFLY
. MIKE FOLLOWED ON BEHALF OF
GOVERNMENT FOR CALIFORNIA AND I
REALLY JUST WANT TO THANK MR
JONES. MR MATSUMOTO IN THE
SENATE. FOR THEIR WORK ON THIS,
THE TIMELINES FOR, UM FOR
CAMPAIGN REPORTING OUR TECHNICAL
, UH AND I THINK THE ANALYSIS
RAISES THE ESSENTIAL TENSION
BETWEEN UH, TRANSPARENCY AND
CONFUSION. AND I THINK, UH, YOU
KNOW, WE'VE WORKED HARD ON THIS
TO TRY TO IDENTIFY A NARROW
SOLUTION TO GET PEOPLE MORE
INFORMATION QUICKER. EVEN AS THE
TECHNOLOGY IS CHANGING AND THAT
SORT OF THING WE THINK THIS IS
AN IMPROVEMENT IN THE LAW GIVES
PEOPLE A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION
A LITTLE EARLIER AT AT AT AT AN
IMPORTANT TIME. WE THANK THE
COMMITTEE AND THE CONSULTANTS
AND THE AUTHOR, AND WE WOULD ASK
FOR A NIGHT OUT. MR CHAIR AND
MEMBERS CLIFF COSTA, ALSO ON
BEHALF OF GOVERNMENT OF
CALIFORNIA JUST HERE FOR TECH
TECHNICAL ANSWERS AND QUESTIONS
IF YOU HAVE ANY THANK YOU, CLIFF
. AND WITH THAT WE'LL MOVE TO
SUPPORT IN THE ROOM. WHERE THERE
ANY PERSONS IN THIS ROOM WHO
WISH TO REGISTER THEIR SUPPORT.
HOW ABOUT OPPOSITION IN THE ROOM
AND THE OPPOSITION IN THE ROOM?
WISHING TO RAISE TO THE SPORT.
OKAY WE'LL MOVE TO THE PHONE
LINES. MODERATOR CAN YOU OPEN
THE PHONE LINES FOR BOTH SUPPORT
AND OPPOSITION ON THIS BILL? IF
YOU ARE IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION
, PLEASE PRESS 10. MAYBE JUST A
MOMENT. THERE'S A FEW PEOPLE
QUEUING UP. 9 29 1 MOMENT. 9 29
YOUR LINE IS OPEN 29. RANDY
HICKS, CALIFORNIA TO DISABILITY
RIGHTS IS STRONG SUPPORT. THANK
YOU LINE, 21. YOUR LINE IS OPEN
21. THE THINNER LOS ANGELES JUST
IN STRONG SUPPORT OF DISCLOSURE
FOR ELECTION. THANK YOU. AND
THERE'S NO ONE ELSE IN QUÊ.
THANK YOU, MODERATOR. WITH THAT
WOLF COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND
QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. BLESS
YOURSELF. YES, SIR. SO RIGHT NOW
WE HAVE THE STATEMENT THAT'S DUE
IN JANUARY SEMIANNUAL. ANOTHER
SEMIANNUAL. THAT'S DO THAT
COVERS THE PERIOD UP TO JUNE
30TH. CORRECT. AND THEN IN AN
ELECTION YEAR WHAT THIS
PROPOSES. IS THAT WE HAVE
ANOTHER 1 75 DAYS BEFORE THE
ELECTION. WHICH WHAT? WHAT'S THE
DATE ON THAT? IT'S THE REPORTERS
DO 70 DAYS BEFORE THE ELECTION,
HMM. BUT IT WOULD COVER THE
PERIOD 75 DAYS UP TO THE
ELECTION. SO THE REPORT DURING
THE PRIMARY WOULD BE MARCH 29TH.
DURING THE GENERAL WOULD BE
ASSUMING A JUNE PRIMARY. AND
THEN FOR THE GENERAL BE AUGUST
30TH. OKAY? AND SO AUGUST.
EIGHTH OR SEVENTH IS WHEN THE 90
DAY PERIOD KICKS IN FOR THE
$1000 EVERY TIME YOU GET A
CONTRIBUTION OVER $1000 YOU EVER
REPORTING PERIOD FOR THAT? I'M
RIGHT. JUST WONDERING IS YOU
KNOW HOW MUCH IS TOO MUCH, AND
HOW MUCH IS ENOUGH? I MEAN, YOU
COULD PROPOSE A SEMI WEEKLY
REPORTING PERIOD TO GET
EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS, AND
THAT WOULD BE OVER BURDENSOME.
SO I'M KIND OF WONDERING WHERE
THAT LINE IS. WHERE WHERE ARE
REPORTING BECOMES OVER?
BURDENSOME AND EVEN MORE OF A
DIFFICULTY FOR THE F PPC TO KEEP
UP. SO YOU'RE SAYING TO START
THE SORRY TO END WHAT I'M SAYING
IS, I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE ENOUGH.
AND I'M JUST WONDERING, WHICH IS
WHEN DO WE GET TO TOO MUCH?
BECAUSE THE F PPC PART OF THIS
IS THEY HAVE A HARD ENOUGH TIME
KEEPING UP WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING
NOW. AND KEEPING THOSE ELECTIONS
STATEMENTS. I HAD A PRE ELECTION
STATEMENT THAT THEY SEND A
VIOLATION NOTICE TO ME. WHAT
THEY REALLY DID WAS THEY SENT
SOMETHING TO HUNTINGTON'S BEACH.
AND HUNTINGTON'S BEACH TOOK
ANOTHER MONTH. AND I HAVE TO
NOTIFY ME THAT THE FPS HE
THOUGHT I DID NOT. PUT IN A PRE
ELECTION STATEMENT WHEN I
ACTUALLY HAD IT WAS. IT'S
INTERESTING. BUT. I JUST CAN'T
IMAGINE ADDING ANOTHER LAYER ON
TOP OF WHAT WE DO. AND I
UNDERSTAND. YOU KNOW, WE'RE
TRYING TO GET PEOPLE AS MUCH
INFORMATION AS POSSIBLE. I'M
JUST WONDERING WHEN IS THAT?
WHERE IS THE LINE OF OKAY, THIS
IS ENOUGH. PEOPLE CAN GET THE
INFORMATION THEY NEED AND THIS
SEEMS LIKE A LOT. YEAH I MEAN, I
WOULD. IT'S A SHORT PERIOD OF
TIME OF OVERLAP. UM BUT I MEAN
YOUR POINTS TAKEN FROM MY
PERSPECTIVE, IT'S NOT I WOULD BE
FINE IF IT WAS MEANINGFUL TO YOU
AND THE COMMITTEE AND OBVIOUSLY
WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THIS, BUT
I THINK THAT YOU'RE RIGHT ONCE
THE 24 HOUR PERIOD KICKS IN,
THEN THERE'S A THERE'S AN
INCREASED LEVEL OF TRANSPARENCY.
THE ISSUE WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO
GET OUT HERE IS, UM, IS THAT
PERIOD WHEN THERE'S SO MUCH
CAMPAIGN ACTIVITIES SO MUCH
FUNDRAISING HAPPENING, IT'S THE
MOST ARGUABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT
PERIOD OF FUNDRAISING BECAUSE
THAT'S REALLY WHAT SETS OUT YOUR
NEST EGG TO DO YOUR CAMPAIGN.TO, YOU KNOW, GO BUILDING UP TO
THE ELECTION, WHERE THERE'S VERY
LITTLE TRANSPARENCY FOR THAT
PERIOD OF TIME. SO UM, YOU KNOW
IF IT'S A MATTER OF KICKING IT
TO BEFORE THE DATE AT WHICH THE
24 HOUR REPORTING PERIOD COMES
IN, YOU KNOW, I'M I'M CERTAINLY
HAPPY THAT IT WAS ONLY A MONTH
FROM THE 30TH. SO IT DOESN'T YOU
KNOW FOR ME, IT'S NOT THAT THE
BIG SO ANYWAY. WHAT? THAT THAT'S
MY QUESTION. I JUST KIND OF
CURIOUS WHEN WE WHEN WE WENT TOO
MUCH IS TOO MUCH WHEN WE WERE WE
DRAW THE LINE AT THIS IS ENOUGH
VERSUS NOW WE HAVE WAY TOO MANY.
REPORTING PERIODS BECAUSE IT
JUST IT REALLY IS A COMPLICATED
PROCESS, ESPECIALLY FOR PEOPLE
THAT ARE NOT INVOLVED. THAT ARE
JUST GETTING INVOLVED IN THE
POLITICAL, UM, SEEN, IT'S
DAUNTING FOR THEM AND IT'S
ENOUGH TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM ONE
TO EVEN BE IN POLITICS. AND
WHILE I DON'T USE THAT AS AN
EXCUSE FOR THEM, BUT IT DOES YOU
NO LIMIT THAT FIELD TO PEOPLE
WHO CAN AFFORD TO HAVE REALLY
GOOD ACCOUNTANTS. AND MAKE IT
MORE COMPLICATED FOR THEM, JUST
TO ME SCARES OFF MORE PEOPLE
THAT ARE JUST KIND OF AVERAGE.
NORMAL FOLKS THAT THIS ISN'T THE
YOU KNOW THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO
BE INVOLVED AND HAVE A VOICE.
AND SO, UM, YEAH, IT'S A IT'S A
TOUGH ONE FOR ME TO MAKE A
COMPLICATED PROCESS EVEN MORE
COMPLICATED. WHEN THE ADVANTAGE
OF INFORMATION IS REALLY NOT
THAT MUCH GREATER AS YOU WOULD
IF, SHE SAID, IT'S JUST A LITTLE
BIT LITTLE BIT MORE. SO THANK
YOU. WE HAD FRAMED THE BILL
DIFFERENTLY WHEN WE FIRST CAME
UP WITH IT, BUT THINGS CHANGE,
MR MAYS. THANK YOU ACTUALLY, TO
MY COLLEAGUE, UM, MY FROM THE
INLAND EMPIRE. UM I HIS POINT IS
WELL TAKEN. AH BUT I AGREE WITH
THE INTENT OF THE BILL. I'M
GOING TO SUPPORT IT TODAY
BECAUSE I DO THINK THAT 75 DAY
WINDOW HAVING THAT, UH, YOU
KNOW, EXPANDED OUT IS ACTUALLY
PROPER. YOU KNOW, I WOULDN'T
SUGGEST THAT THIS IS AN ISSUE
FOR THE BBC TO BE ABLE TO
ENFORCE ITS REALLY AN ISSUE FOR
THE PUBLIC AND EACH OTHER'S
CANDIDATES TO SEE WHERE WHERE
THINGS ARE AT THE KIND OF SEE
WHERE THEY STACK UP GOING IN
THAT LAST THAT THOSE LAST COUPLE
OF MONTHS AND SO I'M GOING TO BE
SUPPORTIVE OF THIS TODAY. BUT TO
THE POINT OF, YOU KNOW, IF YOU
HAVE TO SO MANY OF THESE THAT
YOU END UP HAVING TO FILE IT
GETS TO A POINT OF LIKE, OKAY,
NOW WE'RE JUST IT'S TOO MUCH. I
DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS TOO
MUCH. I ACTUALLY THINK THIS
FILLS A GAP. THAT IS, THAT IS
THAT WILL MAKE OUR DEMOCRACY
BETTER. SO I'LL BE SUPPORTIVE
TODAY. THANK YOU. MR BENNETT. I
JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT
OFTENTIMES WE HEAR THAT
TRANSPARENCY IS A SOLUTION. AND
THEN WHEN WE TRY TO COME UP WITH
SOMETHING THAT INCREASES
TRANSPARENCY, WE HEAR THAT
TRANSPARENCIES. TOO DIFFICULT,
AND WE SORT OF IF WE HAVE TO BE
PHILOSOPHICALLY COMMITTED ONE
WAY OR THE OTHER. I MEAN, THERE
IS A POINT OF REASON, BUT I
DON'T THINK THIS GOES ANYWHERE
NEAR, YOU KNOW, BEING
UNREASONABLE, GIVEN THE STAKES
AT HAND AND THE AMOUNT OF MONEY
THAT CAN FLOW FOR SOME NEW
PEOPLE AT THE LOCAL LEVEL
APPEARS DAUNTING UNTIL THEY
START TO DO IT. BUT ONCE THEY DO
IT, THEY USUALLY GET INTO THE
RHYTHM AND SO FOR THE VAST
MAJORITY OF PEOPLE I DON'T THINK
THIS IS AN UNDUE BURDEN, AND IT
DOES MEET THE REQUIREMENTS. SO I
APPRECIATE THE BILL AND I'LL BE
SUPPORTING IT AND MOVED THE
RECOMMENDED ACTION. THANK YOU.
AYE. KIND OF HERE ALL OF THESE
PERSPECTIVES. RIGHT. I FULLY
AGREE WITH THE AUTHOR AND THE
SPONSORS OF THE BILL TÂM.
IMPROVED CAMPAIGN TRANSPARENCY,
AND I APPRECIATE THE EFFORT TO
DO THAT WITHOUT MAKING IT OVERLY
COMPLEX. I THINK IN THE LONG
TERM, THOUGH, TRANSPARENCY MIGHT
BE BETTER INCREASED BY REDUCING
THE TOTAL NUMBER OF REPORTS AND
MOVING TO A QUARTERLY SYSTEM.
BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S
POSSIBLE UNTIL WE SHIFT OUR
DISCLOSURE DATABASE WHICH IS SET
TO HAPPEN, 2025. AND SO I THINK
RIGHT NOW, THIS BILL IS
APPROPRIATE. AND I'D LOVE TO
KIND OF REVISIT THAT
CONVERSATION AS OUR DATABASE
SYSTEM CHANGES ITS CAPACITY. BUT
THIS BILL DOES HAVE A DO PASS
TODAY. MOTION BY MR BENNETT,
SECOND BY MR MAYS. MANUFACTORY
WILL CALL THE ROLL. THE MOTION
IS DO PASS AND BE REFERRED TO
THE COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS.
BRIAN BRIAN. I SAY ARTO ARTO NÓ
BENNETT BENNETT. I BLOW HELLO. I
MADE MAZE I MULLEN MULLEN, I
BLANCA RUBIO. BLANCA RUBIO? AYE.
THANK YOU MEMBERS. THANK YOU.
THANKS FOR THE DISCUSSION.
ABSOLUTELY. IT'S THE ONE THAT
BUILDS UP.
AND MADAM SECRETARY, WILL YOU
CALL THE ROLL ON ANY BILLS THAT
WE HAD ABSENT MEMBERS FOR? SB
ONE. OH, THREE DIED. THIS WAS ON
THE CONSENT CALENDAR. THE MOTION
WAS DO PASS AND BE REFERRED TO
THE COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
RECOMMEND CONSENT. BENNETT.
BENNETT? AYE. ITEM TWO IS SB 746
SKINNER. THE MOTION IS DO PASS
AND BE REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE
ON APPROPRIATIONS. BENNETT
BENNETT. AYE. BEAUTIFUL SENATOR
AMBERG INCREDIBLE GOOD
MORNING. ABOUT THAT? YES. CHANCE
TO SEE SOME OF YOU YESTERDAY.
WE'VE FINISHED 11. P. M. YEAH.
SB 13 60, MAYBE AGAIN WHEN
YOU'RE READY. THANK YOU, MR
CHAIR, AND MEMBERS WANT TO THANK
EVEN JONES FOR HIS HELP ON THIS
BILL. UH MR JONES HAS BEEN AN
ASSET TO THIS BUILDING FOR A
NUMBER OF YEARS AND I WAS
FORTUNATE TO LEARN ELECTIONS LAW
UNDER HIS TUTELAGE MANY YEARS
AGO. TODAY I PRESENT SB 13 60
DISCLOSURE CLARITY ACT. THIS
BILL WILL IMPROVE ELECTION
TRANSPARENCY BY UPDATING
CAMPAIGN ADVERTISING DISCLOSURE
REQUIREMENTS. TO MAKE TV AND
ONLINE GRAPHIC AD DISCLOSURES
EASIER TO READ. LEGISLATURE HAS
MADE GREAT STRIDES WITH THE 2000
AND 17, CALIFORNIA DISCLOSE ACT
AND THE 2019 PETITION. DISCLOSE
ACT. THIS BILL BUILDS ON THAT
WORK. SB 13 60 ADDRESSES AND
FIXES THE THREE MOST USED
TACTICS BY SOME CAMPAIGN
COMMITTEES TO AVOID TRANSPARENCY
REQUIRED BY CURRENT CALIFORNIA
LAW AND UPDATES THE POLITICAL
REFORM ACT. TRANSPARENCY IN OUR
POLITICAL PROCESS IS MORE
IMPORTANT THAN EVER WITH ME
TODAY IN SUPPORT. I HAVE, UH, MR
TRENT LANG WITH CALIFORNIA CLEAN
MONEY CAMPAIGN. THANK YOU, SIR.
THANK YOU, MR LANE. THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING, CHAIR AND MEMBERS.
GOOD TO GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL. AH
TRENT LANG, PRESIDENT OF
CALIFORNIA CLEAN MONDAY CAMPAIGN
. WE'RE PROUD TO SPONSOR SP 13
60 ARE GRATEFUL TO SENATORS
HAMBURG AND SENATOR ALLEN. FOR
AUTHORING IT AND ALSO TO THE
CHAIR AND COMMITTEE STAFF FOR
THEIR HARD WORK ON THIS. THIS
AND THIS PREVIOUS VERSION. UM
WE'VE DUBBED THIS BILL THE 2022
DISCLOSURE CLARITY ACT, BUT IT
REALLY COULD BE CALLED THE STOP
ABUSES OF THE DISCLOSE ACT ACT.
BECAUSE IT RESPONDS TO ABUSES
THAT WE'VE SEEN BY SOME BALLOT
MEASURE IN REFERENDUM CAMPAIGNS.
TO PURPOSELY HIDE THEIR TOP
FUNDERS ON ONLINE ADS ON TV AND
VIDEO ADS AND INITIATIVE,
REFERENDUM AND RECALL PETITIONS.
THIS BILL IS ALMOST EXACTLY THE
SAME AS SB 7 52 BY SENATOR ALLEN
THAT THIS COMMITTEE PASSED LAST
YEAR. EXCEPT THAT IT ADDRESSES
CONCERNS THAT SOME STAKEHOLDERS
HAD WITH THE PREVIOUS, UH, BILL
. IT DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY
CHANGES TO TOP INTRUDER
THRESHOLD THAT THAT BILL HAD OR
TO TEXT MESSAGE DISCLOSURES. UM
IT FOCUSED ON THE PART OF SB 13
60 THAT FOCUSES ON ONLINE
GRAPHIC ADS ARE ESPECIALLY
IMPORTANT BECAUSE THEY WERE THE
ONLY MAJOR TYPE OF AD RIGHT NOW
THAT CURRENTLY DOES NOT REQUIRE
BELT MEASURE AND I E COMMITTEES.
TO CLEARLY LIST AT LEAST ONE TOP
THUNDER ON THE AD IN THE 2020
ELECTION. INTERNET WAS JUST
SWAMPED WITH THESE SORTS OF ADS
, AND WE'VE ALREADY SEEN SOME A
LOT OF THEM THIS YEAR AS WELL.
AH SO THESE RULES ARE VERY
SIMILAR TO RULES THAT HAVE BEEN
PLACED FOR TV AND DISCLOSURE ADS
IN TERMS OF MAKING SURE THERE'S
A SOLID BLACK SOLID BACKGROUND
AND TOP UNDER ELICITED THE WAY
THAT PEOPLE CAN SEE. AH SO, UH,
WE WERE WOULD RESPECTFULLY
REQUEST OR I VOTE. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, MR LANG. WITH THAT.
WE WILL MOVE TO MEMBERS OF THE
HEARING ROOM. IS THERE ANYBODY
IN THE HEARING ROOM WHO WISHES
TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS
BILL? NAME ORGANIZATION AND
POSITION ON THE BILL ON THE
CHAMPAGNE WITH THE LEAGUE OF
WOMEN, VOTERS OF CALIFORNIA AND
STRONG SUPPORT. FURTHER THAN
THIS WITH CALIFORNIA COMMON
CAUSE AND STRONGER SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IS THERE
ANY OPPOSITION IN THE ROOM,
WHICH IS TO SPEAK TO THIS BILL?
MODERATOR WHERE WE CAN WE HEAD
TO THE PHONE LINES FOR SUPPORT
OR OPPOSITION TO SB 13 60. IF
YOU ARE IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION
OF SD 13 60, PLEASE PRESS ONE
THAN ZERO. LINE NINE. YOUR LINE
IS OPEN NUMBER NINE. MICHAEL
LEVINSON. STRONG CLEAN MONEY
VOLUNTEER FROM DALY CITY IN
SUPPORT. FLYING 45. YOUR LINE IS
OPEN 45. THIS IS SUSANNA
SAUNDERS. MY ORGANIZATION IS
INDIVISIBLE ROSS, SALLY AND I
LIVE IN STAND IN SOME OF
CALIFORNIA AND I SUPPORT THIS
BILL. FLYING 28 AIRLINE IS OPEN
28 MM. HI JENNIFER TANNER ON
BEHALF OF ALL 84 PHYSICAL GROUPS
OF INDIVIDUAL CALIFORNIA STATE
STRONG WE STRONGLY SUPPORT SB
136. OH, THANK YOU. 9 17 YOUR
LINE IS OPEN 17. HI EVAN MINTON
WITH VOICES FOR PROGRESS AND
STRONG SUPPORT OF THIS BILL.
LINE NUMBER 12, YOUR LINE IS
OPEN NUMBER 12. THANK YOU. CHAIR
AND OPERATOR I'M RAJ,
REPRESENTING CHANGE BEGINS WITH
NEWS SAN DIEGO AND WERE IN
STRONG SUPPORT FOR THIS BILL.
THANK YOU. LINE NUMBER 13 YOUR
LINE IS OPEN 13. SILENCE CONNELL
ON BEHALF OF THE FAIR POLITICAL
PROFIT COMMISSION IN SUPPORT OF
THE PORTIONS OF THE 13 60 THAT
AMENDS THE POLITICAL REFORM ACT
AND WITH NO POSITION ON THE
REMAINING PROVISIONS. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. LINE NUMBER 31 YOUR
LINE IS OPEN 31. CATHERINE DU
MONT. MENLO PARK RESIDENTS
STRONG SUPPORT FOR 13 60. THANK
YOU. BY NUMBER. 32 YEAR LINE IS
OPEN 32. FINANCING PALO ALTO.
I'M IN REGIONAL VOLUNTEER
COORDINATOR FOR CALIFORNIA CLEAN
MONEY CAMPAIGN AND STRONG
SUPPORT. BLIND NUMBER 11. YOUR
LINE IS OPEN 11. PAT WRANGLER
HILLS STRONG SUPPORT. BY NUMBER
36. YOUR LINE IS OPEN 36. GOOD
MORNING, REBECCA ELLIOTT WITH
INDIVISIBLE STAND HIS DAY AND
INDIVISIBLE CALIFORNIA SCREEN
TEAM AND VERY STRONG SUPPORT OF
THIS BILL. THANK YOU. LINE
NUMBER 35 YOUR LINE IS OPEN 35.
GOOD MORNING, MICHELLE SUTTER OF
MOVIE MONEY OUTFITTERS IN AND
STRONG SUPPORT OF SB 13. 60.
THANK YOU. LINE NUMBER 29 YOUR
LINE IS OPEN 29. RANDY HICKS
INTO CALIFORNIA DISABILITY
RIGHTS AND SACRAMENTO COUNTY
GREEN PARTY AND STRONG SUPPORT.
LINE NUMBER 25 YOUR LINE IS OPEN
25. YES GOOD MORNING, CRAIG
BERRY FROM LOS ANGELES AND
STRONG SUPPORT. LINE NUMBER 33
YOUR LINE IS OPEN 33. GOOD
MORNING. MY NAME IS REBECCA DEAN
AND I REPRESENT INDIVISIBLE EAST
BAY. I'M CALLING TO EXPRESS OUR
STRONG SUPPORT FOR SP 13 60.
THANK YOU. MY NUMBER 42 YEAR
LINE IS OPEN 42. LINE NUMBER 42.
SIGN NUMBER 41 YOUR LINE IS OPEN
41. HELLO MY NAME IS DAVID
SCHMIDT. I'M A CALIFORNIA CLEAN
MONEY CAMPAIGN VOLUNTEER FROM
SAN FRANCISCO, CALLING IN STRONG
SUPPORT OF SP 13 60. FIND NUMBER
46 YOUR LINE IS OPEN 46. HELLO
I'M STEPHANIE BROWN,
REPRESENTING ORCHARD CITY,
INDIVISIBLE UNTIL IT CAN VALLEY
AND TW W INDIVISIBLE LISTS
CADRES AND ASKING YOU TO PLEASE
PASS THIS BILL. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. LINE NUMBER 37 YOUR LINE
IS OPEN 37. LAUREN PHABLETS
FAMILY AND A STRONG SUPPORT.
BLIND NUMBER 48. YOUR LINE IS
OPEN 48. GOOD MORNING. THIS IS
CAROL. WE'D ON BEHALF OF THE
DEMOCRATS OF US MORE AND STRONG
SUPPORT. AND THEN WE HAVE ONE
LAST ONE, AND THAT'S FROM LINE
NUMBER. 21 21 YEAR LINE IS OPEN.
HI ELIZABETH SINNER RESIDENT OF
LOS ANGELES. BUT COMING IN
KANSAS, WICHITA, KANSAS, I WANT
TO SAY THAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING
IT. ALL RIGHT. I'M REALLY IN
SUPPORT OF SB 13. 60 STRIDE.
JUST WISH IT WERE NATIONALS.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND THERE
IS NO ONE LEFT. THANK YOU CLOSER
FROM KANSAS. I LIKE YOUR STYLE.
I WILL NOW TURN TO COMMITTEE
MEMBERS. MOTION BY MR LOW SECOND
BY MR BENNETT. THIS BILL ENJOYS
A DO PASS FOR THE LAST FIVE
YEARS. WE'VE WE'VE DONE A LOT TO
INCREASE DISCLOSURE. THIS IS A
STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
APPRECIATE YOUR LEADERSHIP ON
IT, SENATOR. MADAM SECRETARY,
CAN WE CALL THE ROLL? THE MOTION
IS DO PASS AND BE RE REFERRED TO
THE COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
. BRIAN BRIAN EYES SEYARTO TOÀN
IS NOT VOTING SPEND IT. BENNETT
I LO H
LLEN, I BLANCA RUBIO. BLANCA
RUBIO? AYE. 60 0 60 0. THAT BILL
IS OUT. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.
YOU'VE GOT AN EXCELLENT STAFF.
LAURIE AND ETHAN HAVE SERVED US
ALL. WELL FOR A LONG TIME. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. AND WITH
THAT TODAY'S HEARING IS
ADJOURNED. GOOD MORNING. THANK
YOU. YEAH.