THAT'S TESTING, OKAY? I ASKED
THE COMMITTEE JUST TO GIVE US A
COUPLE OF MORE MINUTES WITH A
COUPLE OF MORE MEMBERS TOLD ME
THAT IT EVER HEADED DOWN.
USUALLY I WOULD START ON TIME,
BUT I WANT TO GIVE HIM A COUPLE
OF MINUTES. IF IT'S OK WITH
EVERYONE. THANK YOU.
THE ASSEMBLY GOVERNMENT
GOVERNMENTAL ORGANIZATION
COMMITTEE IS NOW CALLED TO
ORDER. GOOD AFTERNOON. JUST A
COUPLE OF HOUSEKEEPING THINGS IN
ADVANCE. WITNESSES WILL BE ABLE
TO TESTIFY IN PERSON OR BY PHONE
. THE NUMBER TO CALL IS 87769289
. I'LL REPEAT THAT AGAIN. 87769
. IN THE ACCESS CODE IS
18501100. AGAIN THAT'S 185011.
THIS NUMBER CAN ALSO BE FOUND ON
THE COMMITTEE'S WEBSITE, AND IT
WILL BE DISPLAYED ON YOUR
SCREENS AS WELL. FOR THOSE
CALLING IN PLEASE MUTE YOURSELF
WHILE IN THE QUEUE TO ELIMINATE
ANY BACKGROUND NOISE. I REPEAT
THIS AGAIN. JUST MUTE YOURSELF
WHILE YOU ARE NOT THE PERSON
BEING ASKED TO SPEAK. UH, FOR
EACH BILL HEARD TODAY, THERE
WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR TWO
WITNESSES SUPPORT TWO MAIN
WITNESSES AND SUPPORT CORRECT
MYSELF AND TWO MAIN WITNESSES
AND OPPOSITION. GENERALLY I
ALLOW IT FOR TWO MINUTES EACH,
UM UH AND, UM, WE'LL ALLOW FOR
ADDITIONAL WITNESSES TO BE
CALLING IN. IF YOU'RE ON THE
PHONE, OBVIOUSLY YOU'LL BE
PLACED IN THE QUEUE AND BE ABLE
TO PROVIDE FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS,
SUPPORT. ADDITIONAL SUPPORT AND
OPPOSITION WILL BE ALTERNATED OR
WHENEVER YOU COME UP JUST TO
MOVE THE MEETING A LITTLE BIT
QUICKER. WHEN IS YOUR
OPPORTUNITY? UH, AH, YOU TO
PROVIDE COMMENT. YOU'LL BE IF
YOU'RE ON THE PHONE, YOU'LL BE
ASKED TO PRESS 10 TO MEET
YOURSELF IN ORDER TO SPEAK.
PLEASE BE BRIEFED YOUR COMMENTS
AND YOUR NAME, BUT FOR
ADDITIONAL WITNESSES, THOSE ARE
THOSE WHO ARE NOT THE MAIN
WITNESSES. I WANT TO EMPHASIZE
AND I HAVE TO STICK TO THIS. SO
I'M SAYING THIS IS SEVERAL TIMES
AT THE BEGINNING. I'M ONLY GONNA
ALLOW YOU TO DO YOUR NAME.
ORGANIZATION AND POSITION ONLY
SO MUCH IS MADE PAIN ME TO STOP
SOMEBODY. I WANT THAT AGREEMENT.
NOW THAT NAME ORGANIZATION AND
POSITION ONLY. I'M GONNA HAVE TO
DO THAT FOR ALL ADDITIONAL
WITNESSES. SO I BEG YOU FOR YOUR
AH, FREE INDULGENCE IN ADVANCE.
WHAT THAT SAID, SERGEANT, PLEASE
CALL THE ABSENT MEMBERS NOTICING
A QUORUM WE HAVE ABOVE 12 MEN.
SECRETARIAT, PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL. SANTIAGO. HERE. LUCKY
CURRY. VERMIN. BRIAN CERVANTES
DALI. DAVIES. GARCIA. GIBSON.
JOHN SAWYER. HELLO. MATHIS.
MCCARTHY. MAKIN, ER PATERSON.
QUIRK-SILVA RAMOS REBUS. RUBIO.
TÂM VALLAPUDUA. WE HAVE A CRIME
, AND IT IS CUSTOMARY TO THIS
COMMITTEE. THE VICE CHAIR IS NOW
, UM, ABLE TO DO HIS INCOMING
SPEECH. I'M JUST KIDDING. BUT
YOU'RE WELCOME. ANY COMMENTS IF
YOU'D LIKE YOU'RE GONNA LOVE ME
BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE MUCH TO SAY
SO THAT IT TRULY IS AN HONOR TO
JOIN IN THE LEADERSHIP OF THIS
VERY, VERY IMPORTANT, UH,
COMMITTEE AND I'M VERY MUCH
LOOKING FORWARD TO THE NEW
RELATIONSHIPS AND I'LL BE ABLE
TO DEVELOP. AND I THINK WE HAVE
A LOT OF A VERY IMPORTANT ISSUES
TO ADDRESS THIS UPCOMING
LEGISLATIVE YEAR. ONE OF THEM IS
VERY, VERY BIG TODAY AND WE'LL
BE ADDRESSING IT. I THINK IN A
VERY PROFESSIONAL WAY, AND WE
LOOK FORWARD TO A SUCCESSFUL
DISCUSSION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
AS THIS CUSTOMARY AND THE
MEMBERS WILL INDULGE ME. I'M
GOING TO TRY TO MOVE THIS AS
QUICK AS POSSIBLE. ON THE FIRST
COUPLE OF PIECES. UH FIRST
ORDERS TO ADOPT THE COMMITTEE
RULES. I WOULD NEED A FIRST AND
A SECOND. MR MATHIS AND SEE THE
SECOND MR RAMOS IS A SECOND.
MADAM SECRETARY. PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL. ON THE COMMITTEE RULES.
SANTIAGO YES, SANTIAGO. I LÀ K¾T
. I AGUIAR-CURRY AGUIAR-CURRY.
AYE BERMAN. BRIAN CERVANTES.
DOLLY! VALLEY. I DAVIES DAVIES.
I GARCIA. GARCIA, I GIBSON. JOAN
SAWYER. JOAN SAWYER. I LO
MATHIS. MATHIS. I'M MCCARTY.
MCCARTHY. I'M MAKIN ER. MAKIN ER
I PATERSON PATERSON. I
QUIRK-SILVA QUIRK-SILVA. AYE,
RAMOS. RAMOS. AYE, RIVAS. RUBIO.
UH HUH. UH HUH WA I COMMUNITY
RULES ARE ADOPTED. I'M GONNA
MOVE THIS. UH NOW TO THE
MEASURES ON CONSENT. I NEED A
FIRST AND A SECOND. I GOT CURRY
. JOHN SAWYER. THE VOICES I
HEARD, IF ANY UH YEAH. THE ONES
I DIDN'T HEAR A WORD THERE. IT'S
STILL A TRUE COMMENT. MADAM
SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR. WE HAVE
A B 2 24 GR CURRY. THE MOTION IS
DUE PASS TO APPROPRIATIONS
RECOMMENDED CONSENT. A B 2 61
CULEBRA. THE MOTION IS DUE PASS
RECOMMEND CONSENT. ON THE
CONSENT CALENDAR. SANTIAGO
SANTIAGO I LÀ K¾T AYE AGUIAR
CURRY AGUIRRE CURRY. I BERMAN.
BRIAN CERVANTES. DOLLY! DOLLY I.
DAVIES. DAVIES. I GARCIA GARCIA,
I GIBSON JOHN SAWYER. JOAN
SAWYER. I'LL Ó MATHIS. MATHIS.
I AM MCCARTY. MCCARTHY. I'M
MAKIN ER MAKIN. ER I PATERSON
PATERSON. I QUIRK-SILVA
QUIRK-SILVA. AYE, RAMOS. RAMOS.
I RIVAS. RUBIO. UH HUH. IVY
VALLAPUDUA, THE VALLAPUDUA II.
AND WE'LL LEAVE IT OPEN FOR
MEMBER STAT. AND IT'S PAST. I
WANT TO TAKE THIS UP IN ORDER.
IF MR RAMOS IS, UM IS READY.
WE'D LIKE TO PRESENT A WE'D LIKE
TO HAVE A B 3 41% ID. AT THIS
POINT, WE'LL CALL ALL THE TWO
MAIN WITNESSES AND SUPPORT UM,
UP WITH MR RAMOS AS WELL.
THANK YOU, MR RAMOS. HMM. WELL
THANK YOU, MR CHAIR AND MEMBERS.
TODAY I'M PRESENTING A B 3 41 A
BILL THAT HAS BROUGHT TOGETHER A
WORKING GROUP. CONSISTING OF CO
SPONSORS FROM CAR CLUBS AND
TRIBAL GOVERNMENTS. THIS WORKING
GROUP SET ASIDE DIFFERENCES TO
WORK ON A COMMON GOAL.
PRESERVING JOBS. ECONOMIC
VITALITY IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA. THIS BILL WOULD
ALLOW FOR MUTUALLY AGREED UPON
GROWTH FOR CAR CLUBS WITH 20
TABLES ARE LESS WHILE CREATING A
MORATORIUM TO PROTECT THE
ECONOMIC STREAM OF ECONOMIES
THAT RELY ON THE GAMING
INDUSTRY. THE HARD WORK OF
COMPROMISE BY THE CO SPONSORS OF
THIS BILL SHOWS THAT WHEN
SETTING ASIDE AREAS OF
DISAGREEMENT. AND FOCUS ON THE
AREAS OF AGREEMENT. THE ART OF
GIVE AND TAKE TO REACH AND
AGREEABLE AGREEMENT IS POSSIBLE.
AND TO THEIR TESTAMENT TO MOVE
IN ONE ACCORD TO PRESENT A BILL
OF COMPROMISE THAT SITS IN FRONT
OF THIS COMMITTEE TODAY. THE
HARD WORK ON THIS BILL BY THE
WORKING GROUP OF THE BILL'S
COSPONSORS. THE KOREA BAND OF
INDIANS. HAWAIIAN GARDENS, MORON
GO BANDA MISSION INDIANS
COMMERCE CASINO RINCON BAND OF
LUCIANO INDIANS KINGS CARD CLUB.
SALMON WELL BAND OF MISSION
INDIANS, SANTA YNEZ BANDIT
CHUMASH INDIANS IN THE PSA BOBA
BANDA LUCIANO INDIANS ALL WORK
TOGETHER AS A WORKING GROUP TO
COME TOGETHER TO PRESENT A B 3
41. THIS ACT SHOULD NOT BE TAKEN
LIGHTLY. AND REPRESENTS A
RESPONSIBLE AND REASONABLE
APPROACH TOWARDS FUTURE GAME AND
EXPANSION IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA. WITH ME TODAY TO
TESTIFY IN SUPPORT IS CHAIRMAN
CHARLES MARTIN FROM THE CONGO
TRIBAL GOVERNMENT ENJOY HARD
GENERAL COUNSEL OF THE COMMERCE,
CASINO AND HOTEL. GOOD MORNING.
GOOD MORNING AND I WANT TO JUST
REMIND EVERYBODY AND WE SAID TWO
MINUTES, SO I RESPECTFULLY JUST
REMIND HER THANK YOU, SIR. GOOD
MORNING, CHAIRMAN SANTIAGO
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. MY
NAME IS CHARLES MARTIN. I'M
CHAIRMAN WITH THE WRONG
ABANDONED MISSION INDIANS I AM
HERE TODAY IS ONE OF THE SIX
TRIBAL CO SPONSORS OF A B 3 41
BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S JAMES RAMOS
. IN ADDITION TO THAT, OUR TRIBE
, THE OTHER TRIBE COSPONSORS ARE
THE QUEER BAND OF INDIANS. THE
MERINGUE ABANDONED MISSION.
INDIANS THROUGH RECON BAND
LOOSEN YOU INDIANS. THE SALMON
WELL BAND MISSION INDIANS SENT
IN HIS BAND OF CHUMASH INDIANS
IN THE SUB. OH, A BAND OF
LUCIANO INDIANS. IN ADDITION TO
OUR TRIBES, MANY OF THE TRIBES
ARE ALSO IN SUPPORT, INCLUDING
CALIFORNIA NATIONS IN GAMING
ASSOCIATION, WHICH IS COMPRISED
OF 47 OF THE 71 GAMING TRIBES IN
CALIFORNIA. YOU WILL ALSO HEAR
FROM THE CARD ROOM INDUSTRY WHOM
WE WORK WITH ON CREATING THIS
COMPROMISE MEASURE. OUR
COALITION CAME TOGETHER IN ORDER
TO PROVIDE A COMPROMISE ON THE
REINSTATEMENT OF CALIFORNIA'S
LONGSTANDING CAR DREW MORATORIUM
AFTER IT UNFORTUNATELY EXPIRED
AT THE END OF LAST YEAR'S
LEGISLATURES LEGISLATIVE
SESSION. THE MORATORIUM SHOULD
HAVE NEVER EXPIRED BECAUSE IT
PROVIDED CALIFORNIA WITH A
SENSIBLE POLICY AS IT RELATES TO
CARD ROOM EXPANSION, TRAVEL,
EXCLUSIVITY AND OVER SATURATING
CALIFORNIA'S GAMING MARKET FOR
OVER 20 YEARS, CALIFORNIA VOTERS
HAVE CONSISTENTLY OPPOSED ON
FEDERAL EXPANSION OF GAMING
ACROSS CALIFORNIA AND I'VE STOOD
WITH INDIAN TRIBES AND SUPPORT
OF GAMING ON FEDERALLY
RECOGNIZED TRIBAL LANDS. WHICH
IS WHY WE BELIEVE THE RATIONALE
FOR THE ORIGINAL CAR ROOM OR
TORY, UM, STILL EXIST TODAY.
THAT IS WHY WE CAME TOGETHER TO
INTRODUCE THIS MEASURE, WHICH WE
BELIEVE IS A COMPROMISE THAT
PROVIDES A BALANCE BY ALLOWING
MEASURED GROWTH OF THE CARD ROOM
INDUSTRY. WE WILL LOOK FORWARD
TO WORKING WITH THE LEGISLATURE,
THE CARD ROOM INDUSTRY AND THE
TRIBAL COMMUNITY ON FINDING A
BALANCE THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH
CALIFORNIA VOTERS. SUPPORT OF
TRIBAL GAMING. THANK YOU WATCH
EMMA. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD
AFTERNOON, CHAIRMAN SANTIAGO AND
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. MY
NAME IS JOY HARD AND HIS GENERAL
COUNSEL OF COMMERCE, CASINO AND
HOTEL. I APPRECIATE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY AND
SUPPORT OF A B 3 41. MAYBE 3 41
HAS ACCOMPLISHED WHAT ONLY LAST
YEAR SEEMED IMPOSSIBLE. UNIFYING
TRIBES AND CARD ROOMS TO PROTECT
AGAINST UNLIMITED EXPANSION OF
CARD ROOMS. WHILE ALLOWING
MEASURED GROWTH FOR OUR SMALLER
CARD ROOMS AND PROTECTING LOCAL
LOCAL REVENUES CRITICAL TO OUR
HOST CITIES. WITHOUT THIS WELL
REASONED BILL GAMING THROUGHOUT
THE STATE WILL EXPAND
UNFETTERED. THIS BILL PROVIDES
SECURITY TO THOSE IN THE GAMING
INDUSTRY AND IS CONSISTENT WITH
PREVIOUS LEGISLATION THAT
PERMITTED INCREMENTAL INCREASES
IN THE NUMBER OF LICENSED TABLES
SUBJECT TO GOVERNMENT APPROVAL.
THIS BILL RECOGNIZES THAT
STABILITY IN THE GAMING INDUSTRY
IS IMPORTANT TO CARD CLUBS,
TRIBES AND LOCAL COMMUNITIES
DEPENDENT ON REVENUES AND JOBS
CREATED BY OUR INDUSTRY.
CALIFORNIA CARD CLUBS ARE
FUNDAMENTAL ASSETS AND MANY
LOCAL ECONOMIES SERVING AS THE
LARGEST SINGLE SOURCE OF TAX
REVENUE FOR SEVERAL CITY GENERAL
FUNDS. CARD ROOM REVENUE FUNDS,
UM, FUNDS ESSENTIAL PUBLIC
SAFETY AND HEALTH SERVICES,
SENIOR AND YOUTH SERVICES, GANG
PREVENTION AND TRANSPORTATION
SYSTEMS. WHILE ALSO GENERATING
SIGNIFICANT EMPLOYMENT AND
SECOND SECONDARY BUSINESS
ACTIVITY THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
THE LEGISLATURE HAS A LONG
HISTORY OF LIMITING THE
EXPANSION OF LOCAL GAMBLING WITH
THE PREDICTABLE GROWTH OF GAMING
TABLES OVER TIME. SINCE 1995.
THE LEGISLATURE HAS ACTED TO
RESTRICT THE EXPANSION OF
EXISTING GAMING. BEGINNING IN
1995 MORATORIUMS HAVE BEEN
ENACTED WITHOUT INTERRUPTION
UNTIL LAST FALL. IT IS NOW TIME
TO PUT A MORATORIUM BACK IN
PLACE TO ASSURE THE VIABILITY OF
EXISTING CARD ROOMS, THE
ECONOMIC SECURITY OF THEIR
CITIES AND ALLOW FOR HEALTHY
GROWTH OF SMALLER CARD ROOMS.
SINCE IT HAS BEEN 10 YEARS SINCE
ANY INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF
TABLES OF A LOCAL ORDINANCE MAY
PERMIT. SO IT IS TIME FOR THE
MODEST GROWTH THAT IS SET OUT IN
83 41. EXTENDING THE PROHIBITION
WITH A MODEST INCREASE IN TABLES
WILL PROVIDE THE NEEDED
FINANCIAL STABILITY TO LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS AND WILL CONTINUE
THE STATE'S COMMITMENT TO LIMIT
THE NUMBER OF GAMING FACILITIES
OPERATED IN THE STATE. IT
PROVIDES CERTAINTY FOR TRIBES
AND CARD CLUBS AND AVOIDS THE
NEED TO ASK THE LEGISLATURE TO
ENACT LEGISLATION ON THIS TOPIC
EVERY FEW YEARS. FOR THOSE
REASONS, WE ARE VERY PLEASED TO
CO SPONSOR THIS LEGISLATION.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
UH NOW WE'LL HAVE MAIN WITNESSES
AND OPPOSITION AND IF THERE'S
ROOM THERE, THEY MAY STAY,
DEPENDING ON WHAT THE AUTHOR
WOULD PREFER. MAIN WITNESSES AND
OPPOSITION MAY COME UP. OH,
SORRY ABOUT THAT. OH, THANKS.
YEAH, THAT'LL WORK. MR CHAIR
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. GOOD
AFTERNOON. AH MY NAME IS JOHN
LOVELL, AND MY CLIENT IS THE
PLAYERS CASINO. UM IN A IN
VENTURA, CALIFORNIA. UM WE WERE
EXCLUDED FROM ANY WORKING GROUP.
UH AND SEVERELY HARMED BY THIS
BILL. I MEAN, FIRST OF ALL THE
RETROACTIVE, UM, EFFECTIVE DATE
IS, YOU KNOW, JUST STRAINS
CONSTITUTIONAL CREDULITY. BUT
MOREOVER, THE WHAT CAME OUT OF
THIS BILL IS LANGUAGE THAT
DIRECTLY HARMS OUR OUR CAR DRUM
. UH THE LIMIT FOR WHEN A CARD
ROOM CAN EXPAND ONLY TWO TABLES
A YEAR, BY THE WAY. BUT THAT
LIMIT IS COLLUSIVE LEE SET AT 20
TABLES. OUR CARD ROOM HAS 22
TABLES, WHICH MEANS FOR THE
ENTIRE 20 YEARS. OF THIS
MORATORIUM. WE WILL NOT BE ABLE
TO GROW AT ALL. UNDERSTAND THAT
THE PLAYERS CASINO HAS BEEN A
SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTOR TO
PUBLIC SAFETY IN THE CITY OF
VENTURA AND TO A WHOLE HOST OF
OTHER PROGRAMS, NOT WITHSTANDING
THAT THIS BILL HAS EXCLUDED US.
FROM ANY WORKING GROUP AND HAS
CAUSED US AFFIRMATIVE, COLLUSIVE
ARM. WE STRONGLY OPPOSED THIS.
UH, WE URGE RESPECTFULLY URGE A
NO VOTE ON THIS BILL. I'VE GOT
TO TELL YOU. I'VE BEEN HERE
SINCE 1985. I HAVE NEVER SEEN A
BILL. THAT PICKS OUT ONE CARD
ROOM. UM, AND WITH WITH THE
AFFIRMATIVE INTENT OF HARMING
THEM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE
HAVE ADDITIONAL WITNESS AN
OPPOSITION. YOU MAY ALSO SEE IF
IT'S MORE COMFORTABLE FOR YOU.
IT'S YOUR YOUR PLEASURE. I'M
FINE. THANK YOU. MR CHAIRMAN AND
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE CAROLYN
VEAL HUNTER ON BEHALF OF OUR
CLIENTS. YOKA DAY HE WENT TO
NATION AND THE SHINGLE SPRINGS
BAND OF ME WALK INDIANS. WE,
TOO, WERE NOT INVITED TO THE
WORKING GROUP. AND FOR THAT
REASON I MUST ISSUE A POSITION
OF OPPOSED UNLESS THE BILL IS
AMENDED TO ADDRESS ONLY THE
UNDERLYING WHAT IS THE
UNDERLYING INTENT OF THE BILL TO
EXTEND THE MORATORIUM ON GAMING.
UNFORTUNATELY MAYBE 3 41 WOULD
ALSO EXPAND GAMING TO CARD ROOMS
WITH LESS THAN 20 TABLES. FOR
YEARS, THE TRIBAL COMMUNITY HAS
FOUGHT TO STOP THE ILLEGAL PLAY
OF BANK GAMES SUCH AS BACCARAT
AND JACKPOT, AND I'M BLACKJACK
AT CALIFORNIA CARD ROOMS. OUR
CLIENTS OPPOSED ANY EXPANSION ON
THE NUMBER OF TABLES AT CARD
ROOMS UNTIL THE CALIFORNIA
BUREAU OF GAMBLING CONTROL STOPS
THE ILLEGAL PLAY OF BANK GAMES.
WHILE BOTH YO TODAY HE WENT TO
NATION AND SHINGLE SPRINGS BAND
OF ME WALK. INDIANS SUPPORT THE
UNDERLYING GOAL. TO EXTEND THE
MORATORIUM AGAIN. I MUST
REITERATE THEY MUST OPPOSE MAYBE
3 41 UNTIL IT AMENDED TO
PRECLUDE THE EXPANSION OF
ILLEGAL GAMES AND IS MODIFIED TO
SIMPLY RESTORE THE MORATORIUM ON
NEW GAMING ESTABLISHMENTS. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NOW
WE'RE GONNA GO TO, UH THE TWO
PUBLIC COMMENT IN SUPPORT. THAT
MAY BE IN THE ROOM. I'LL START
OFF WITH THAT. AND AGAIN, I'M
JUST GOING TO REMIND YOU NAME
ORGANIZATION AND POSITION ONLY.
HMM VICTOR FARFAN'S MAYOR, PRO
TEMP STATED HAWAIIAN GARDENS AND
SUPPORT. PAMELA LOPEZ ON BEHALF
OF THE CHILI RIVER TRIBE AND
SUPPORT. SHARP GENERAL COUNSEL
HAWAIIAN GARDENS CASINO IN
SUPPORT. HERRERA WITH THE SAN
MANUEL BURNER MISSION INDIANS AS
A SPONSOR. MR CHAIR JAMES JACK
ON BEHALF OF THE SAFETY NET
SPEND OF TWO MESH INDIANS AS A
CO SPONSOR IN SUPPORT. THURMOND
LUIS MARQUEZ. HERE IN THE ON
BEHALF OF THE RINCON BAND OF
LOUISIANA INDIANS AND SUPPORT
AND COSPONSOR THANK YOU. OH,
GOD, I'M HALF OCEAN'S 11 AND
CRYSTAL CASINO HIS SUPPORT. SEAN
FLANAGAN, ON BEHALF OF SICHUAN
TRIBE IN SAN DIEGO, WERE
SUPPORTIVE, AMENDED. TRENT SMITH
ON BEHALF OF ARTICHOKE JOE'S
CASINO AND SUPPORT PROBABLY FOR
ME TO DO HIS DUTY WITH
LIGHTHOUSE PUBLIC AFFAIRS ON
BEHALF OF PARK WEST CASINOS IN
SUPPORT. GOOD AFTERNOON, JASON
BRYANT ON BEHALF OF PLAYERS,
EDGE SERVICES AND KINGS AND
WESTLAND CASINOS, AND STOCKTON'S
IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU. ALEX
COLONIES AND, UM, ON BEHALF OF
THE OBAMA TELL PROMO OF UPPER
LAKE AND SUPPORT. JOHN
MCKISSICK, REPRESENTING
LIMELIGHT CARD ROOM IN SUPPORT.
HEATHER GUERENA IN GENERAL
COUNSEL FOR SEVEN MILE CASINO.
AND STONES, GAMBLING HALL AND
SUPPORT. KEVIN BARKLEY 500 CLUB
CASINO IN SUPPORT. MR CHAIRMAN
AND MEMBERS BRIAN LONDON ON
BEHALF OF THE COMMUNITIES FOR
CALIFORNIA CARD ROOMS AND
SUPPORT. MR CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS
MIKE BELOW IT ON BEHALF OF CLUB
ONE CASINO AND FRESNO AND THE
DEUCE LOUNGE IN VISALIA IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. MR EXCUSE
ME, MR CHAIRS, MEMBERS. KERMIT
SCHULTZ, PARTNER STONES GAMBLING
HALL SEVEN MILE CASINO IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. SUSAN JENSEN
, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE
CALIFORNIA NATIONS INDIAN GAMING
ASSOCIATION, IN SUPPORT
AFTERNOON, THE ROMAN SENATE ON
BEHALF OF THE UNITED AUBURN
INDIAN COMMUNITY AND SUPPORT
MARVIN PIN IT ON BEHALF OF
CALIFORNIA CITIES FOR SELF
RELIANCE AND SUPPORT. AHEAD OF
GARCIA, ROGELIO SIGNAL TO AND
SUPPORT. KEVIN POUND, SUPPORTIVE
ROLE HELIOS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW.
CLARK ROSA WITH CAPITAL CASINO
IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU. NOW WE'LL
GO TO PUBLIC COMMENTS, UH, IN
OPPOSITION OF THOSE WHO ARE IN
THE ROOM. THAT'S IT ONE MORE
TIME. AND IF THERE ISN'T THEN
I'LL JUST SKIP OVER. OKAY THERE
ANY OPPOSITION? ARGUMENT NOT
ARGUMENTS ORGANIZATIONS. IN THE
ROOM. BUT I'M GONNA SKIP IT. AND
NOW WE'RE GONNA GO TO THE
PHONES. I'LL TAKE THEM IN THE
ORDER THAT THEY THAT THEY'RE IN.
UH MR OR, MADAM, UM MODERATOR.
YES LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU
ARE IN SUPPORT OF A B 3 41,
PLEASE PRESS 10 ON YOUR PHONE.
ONCE AGAIN THAT'S IN SUPPORT OF
A B 3 41 10. AND WE DO HAVE A
FEW QUEUING UP HERE. IT'LL BE
JUST A MOMENT WHY THEY GET THEIR
LINE NUMBER. I'LL JUST REINSTATE
THAT NAME ORGANIZATION AND
POSITION ONLY FOR THOSE WHO ARE
GEARING UP. OKAY AND WE DO HAVE
ABOUT FIVE THAT ARE QUEUED UP
WILL BE JUST ONE MOMENT HERE.
ALL RIGHT. WE WILL GO TO LINE
NUMBER EIGHT. PLEASE GO AHEAD.
YOUR LINE IS OPEN. I MEAN, THIS
IS DANIEL NAVARRO CHAIRMAN, UM
FOR THE CLEVELAND OPINIONS,
SPONSOR FOR THE BILL AND STRONG
SUPPORT OF 33 41 TICKETS. THANK
YOU. NEXT WE WILL GO TO LINE
NUMBER. 12, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
HELLO I DIDN'T EVEN CALL
CHAIRMAN FOR THE SMOKE ABANDONED
INDIA INDIANS, CO SPONSOR AND
SUPPORTER OF 83 41. GÒM THANK
YOU. NEXT, WE WILL GO TO LINE
NUMBER 13, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
BRIAN ALTIZER, NAPA VALLEY
CASINO OWNER. IN SUPPORT. THANK
YOU. NEXT, WE WILL GO TO LINE
NUMBER 11, PLEASE GO AHEAD. DON
ALTIZER CASINO IN SUPPORT. THANK
YOU. WE WILL GO TO LINE NUMBER
15, PLEASE GO AHEAD. TRAVIS
TYLER LIVERMORE CASINO IN
SUPPORT. OKAY THERE'S ANY MORE
SUPPORT FOR A B 3 41. IT'S ONE
THAN ZERO. AND I DO NOT HAVE
ANYBODY QUEUING UP. MR CHERRY
MAY CONTINUE. I LOVE TO GO TO
OPPOSITION COMMENTS AGAIN NAME
ORGANIZATION IN POSITION ONLY.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU ARE
IN OPPOSITION OF A B 3 41 IT IS
10 ON YOUR PHONE. AND ONCE AGAIN
THAT IS ONE AND ZERO FOR
OPPOSITION OF A B 3 41. OKAY I
DO NOT HAVE ANYBODY IN
OPPOSITION ON THE PHONE. YOU MAY
CONTINUE, MR. CHAIR I'M GONNA GO
TO COMMITTEE MEMBERS. IF THERE'S
ANY QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE
MEMBERS. I THINK MR MATHIS HAD
THE FIRST QUESTION UP. THANK
YOU, MR CHAIR. I ALSO WANT TO
THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS.
IT'S NOT EASY TRYING TO BRING
TRIBES AND CARD ROOMS TOGETHER.
AND TO BUILD A COALITION. UM
IT'S BEEN SOMETHING MANY HAVE
TRIED BEFORE. AND YOU KNOW, IT'S
FASCINATING WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE
OPPOSITION ON THIS YOU STILL
HAVE SOME CARD ROOMS AND
OPPOSITION IN SOME TRIBES IN
OPPOSITION. AND UM, I HOPE
MOVING FORWARD THAT WE CAN KIND
OF BRING SOME FOLKS IN AND IRON
OUT SOME OF THE OTHER DETAILS.
UM AND SEE WHAT'S GOING ON. I
KNOW. UM FOR ME BACK HOME. I'VE
GOT MY LOCAL CARD ROOMS. I'VE
GOT ONE OF MY TRIBES IS THERE.
ONE OF MY TRIBES IS STILL
WORKING THROUGH SOME HEARTBURN
ON IT. UM BUT I WOULD LIKE TO
COME ON AS A JOINT AUTHOR WITH
YOU IF YOU'LL HAVE ME TO ADD
SOME BIPARTISANSHIP TO THIS UM,
AND MOVE THIS FORWARD AND HELP
YOU WORK ON THIS VERY DIFFICULT
ISSUE. AND THANK YOU FOR
BRINGING EVERYBODY TOGETHER AND
PROVIDING LEADERSHIP ON THIS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S AND I DIDN'T
ENJOY HAVING YOU AS A JOINT
AUTHOR. MR LIU, I'M SORRY I
MISSED YOU. THANK YOU, MR
CHAIRMAN. I MOVE THE BILL ON
THAT. WELL FIRST BY MR MATHIS.
AND THEN GIBSON WAS THE SECOND
AND THEN MR LOWE. SORRY ABOUT
THAT. NO WORRIES. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH, MR RAMOS. I KNOW THAT YOU
AND I HAD SHARED CONVERSATIONS
WITH RESPECT TO THE CONCERNS OF
THE ERA JURISDICTION THAT I
REPRESENT, WHICH IS THE CITY OF
SAN JOSE. SPECIFICALLY YOU WERE
KIND ENOUGH TO FOLLOW UP
SPECIFICALLY ON THAT. ADDRESSING
A NUMBER OF THE ISSUES AND
THERE'S STILL SOME OUTSTANDING
ISSUES THAT YOU KNOW YOU'RE
EQUALLY COMMITTED TO BEING OPEN
TO ADDRESSING FOR THE TECHNICAL
CALL AMENDS IS THAT RIGHT AS
WELL? CERTAINLY THIS IS THIS
BILL IS STILL IN ITS WORKING
FORMAT. WE ARE OPEN TO ANY
COMMENTS AND ANY SUGGESTIONS
MOVING FORWARD. YEAH IT THANK
YOU, UM, YOU KNOW, AND PART OF
THE CLARIFYING. UM QUESTION
SPECIFICALLY, IS ON LEGISLATIVE
INTENT. UM, THE CITY OF SAN
JOSE, FOR EXAMPLE, HAS AN
EXISTING ALLOWANCE OF TWO CARD
ROOMS. IS IT THE INTENT OF THE
BILL TO ALLOW FOR AN EXPANSION
OF CARD ROOMS WITH ANY OF THE
JURISDICTIONS THAT CURRENTLY
ALLOWED THE CARD ROOMS, SO
CURRENTLY, THE BILL HAS RETRO
LANGUAGE BACK TO JANUARY. 2023
IT DOES NOT GO BACK TO 2022 WHEN
THE MORATORIUM EXPIRED. SO WE
BELIEVE THAT THAT ANSWERS SOME
OF THE QUESTIONS THAT ARE ARE
THERE WE WILL BE LOOKING AT
CLARIFYING SOME LANGUAGE
TECHNICAL AMENDMENTS MOVING
FORWARD. THANK YOU AND I'LL BE
SUPPORTING AS WELL TODAY IN WANT
TO REAFFIRM THE APPRECIATION FOR
THE WORKING COLLABORATIVELY IN
THIS EFFORT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
HMM. MR BRIAN, DID YOU HAVE A
QUESTION? DID I MISUNDERSTAND
THAT NHÀ? I WANT TO THANK THE
AUTHOR AND EVERYBODY WHO'S PUT
IN A LOT OF WORK IN THIS EFFORT.
I KNOW THAT IT'S BEEN OVER A
YEAR CONVERSATION AND EVEN
LONGER THAT THAN THAT, FOR MANY
OTHERS. I KNOW THERE'S STILL
SOME THINGS THAT YOU NEED TO
WORK OUT IN THIS PROCESS. THIS
IS THE FIRST COMMITTEE HEARING
IS A LONG PROCESS TO MOVE
LEGISLATION. BUT AGAIN, I WANT
TO THANK YOU ALL OF YOUR WORK. I
KNOW WE'RE STILL ANSWERING
QUESTIONS ABOUT YOU KNOW,
ILLEGAL GAMING. WE'RE STILL
ANSWERING QUESTIONS ABOUT MAKING
SURE THAT THIS IS AS IMPACTFUL
AND EFFECTIVE AS POSSIBLE, AND I
KNOW THAT'S YOUR GOAL. AND SO I
WILL BE SUPPORTING IT TODAY, AND
I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL
OF YOUR WORK. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
MR OH, SORRY, MISS QUIRK-SILVA.
I APOLOGIZE. THEN MISS
AGUIAR-CURRY. I APOLOGIZE TO
SECRETARY FOR. I WANTED TO BRING
IT BACK TO THE CONVERSATION OF
THE IMPACTS THAT THESE CARDS
CLUBS HAVE IN THE CITIES THAT
THEY SIT IN. I HAPPEN TO
REPRESENT HAWAIIAN GARDENS NAIL
AND, UH, IT'S THE SMALLEST CITY
IN THE CITIES THAT I REPRESENT.
AND YET THE CARD CLUB. UM
ACTUALLY, UM, WORKS WITH THE
CITY TO CONTRIBUTE ALMOST 80% OF
THEIR REVENUE OF THE CITY'S
REVENUE. AND THAT IMPACT MEANS
EVERYTHING FROM CITY SERVICES TO
SPORTS TO YOUTH ENGAGEMENT. SO
ALTHOUGH THESE ARE NOT EASY, UH
, COLLABORATIVE TO BUILD THAT
YOU BUILT THIS, UH AND WE WERE
ALL HERE LAST YEAR AS WE ENDED
THE SESSION AND ONE OF THE ASKS
WAS TO WORK TOGETHER AND THAT
THIS IS IN FRONT OF US. ALREADY
AS ONE OF OUR FIRST BILLS OF THE
SESSION. I THINK IT'S A TRIBUTE
TO YOUR RELATIONSHIPS AND
GETTING THESE GROUPS BUT AGAIN,
WE WANT TO SEE IF WE CAN IRON
OUT SOME OF THE REMAINING
DIFFICULTIES AND WE'LL LOOK
FORWARD TO WHAT COMES AHEAD. BUT
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU,
MR GREGORY. PLEASE HAVE A QUICK
QUESTION. ASSEMBLY MEMBER. I
THOUGHT I OVERHEARD YOU SAY THAT
THERE WERE AMENDMENTS ON THIS
PILL. THERE'S NONE. THERE'S NO
AMENDMENTS AT THIS TIME. DO YOU
INTEND ON TAKING ANY AMENDMENTS
AS LEGISLATION MOVES FORWARD IN
EACH COMMITTEE WE GO TO THERE'S
ALWAYS OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE
AMENDMENTS MOVING FORWARD. THIS
PARTICULAR BILL IS STILL HAS A
WAYS TO GO. AND SO CONVERSATION
IS STILL BEING HAD. SO I'M GONNA
TAKE IT AS YOU WILL TAKE
AMENDMENTS IF GIVEN TO YOU. WHEN
WE'RE LOOKING AT AMENDMENTS
MOVING FORWARD IN THE DIFFERENT
COMMITTEES. YES, THANK YOU. MR
MCCARTY, PLEASE. THANK YOU, MR
CHAIR AND GOOD TO BE RIGHT FOR
THE 1ST 1ST TIME. I THINK THIS
IS MY FIRST TIME LITERALLY IN
THIS COMMITTEE IN NINE YEARS. UM
I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR, UM THE
AUTHOR. UM YOU TALKED ABOUT ONE
OF THE TENANTS OF THE COMPROMISE
WAS THAT THE MODEST GROWTH FOR
THE FOR THE SMALLER CARD CLUBS
WHICH HAVE A NUMBER HERE IN MY
AREA OF SACRAMENTO? UM I JUST
WANTED TO ASK YOU WAS AND I AND
I KNOW IT'S UNDER 20. TABLES,
THEY CAN GO. 10 MORE, UM, TWO
PER YEAR. UM IN IN THE
DISCUSSIONS. WAS IT AT ALL? UM I
THOUGHT ABOUT THAT YOU GO UP TO
10 AT A AT A FASTER CLIP. THEN
THEN TWO PER YEAR. UM IT WAS WAS
THAT AS PART OF THE EQUATION AT
ALL, AND IF NOT, IS THAT
SOMETHING THAT COULD BE IN THE
EQUATION GOING FORWARD?
DEFINITELY WAS SOMETHING THAT
WAS DISCUSSED WITHIN THE WORKING
GROUP, AND THIS GROUP HAS BEEN
ASSEMBLED SINCE THE END OF
SESSION LAST YEAR. SO
CONVERSATION AS FAR AS WHERE WE
REACHED NOW TODAY, WHERE WE'RE
AT WITH A 20 YEAR MORATORIUM AND
TWO TABLES EVERY FOUR YEARS, UM,
UP TO 10 TABLES OVER THAT 20
YEAR MORATORIUM HAS BEEN
SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED.
THERE HAS BEEN DISCUSSION OF
MORE OR LESS WITHIN BOTH OF
THOSE PARAMETERS, SO IT HAS BEEN
SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED
, BUT BUT THANK YOU FOR THE
QUESTION, AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO
LOOK AT THIS ISSUE. OKAY. THANK
YOU. IT'S A VERY BUDDHA. THANK
YOU, MR CHAIRMAN. UH THIS IS
JUST A COMMENT, YOU KNOW TO THE
AUTHOR IS JUST THAT. I FELT LIKE
I RAN OUT A LITTLE BIT OF TIME.
YOU KNOW I WILL BE VOTING ON
THIS TODAY, BUT I JUST WANT TO
MAKE SURE THAT BECAUSE THERE WAS
OTHER FOLKS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO
GET AHOLD OF ME THAT WE'RE MORE
ON THE YOU KNOW, AND I'M NOT
ACCUSING ANYBODY. IT'S JUST THAT
THERE WERE SOME MAYBE SOME
ILLEGAL ISSUES, SO I JUST WANT
TO MAKE SURE THAT WE THOSE THAT
SIDE IS HEARD. I KNOW THERE'S
NOT BEEN ANY COMPLAINTS.
ALRIGHT. I LOOKED THAT THERE WAS
ANY COMPLAINTS WITH UM, THE
ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE. IT
WAS NONE. BUT I DON'T KNOW IF
THERE'S ANYTHING COMING, BUT
JUST MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS
HEARD ALSO THANK YOU. JUST TO
CLARIFY THAT THAT WAS THAT WAS A
COMMENT MEANT MEANT TOWARDS
ARGUMENTS ABOUT THESE ARE THE
GAMES TO BE CLEAR THAT WE CAN
CLEAR THAT UP. MR RUBIO. YES
THANK YOU. I JUST, UH, WE'VE
BEEN DOING THIS FOR THIS IS MY
SEVENTH YEAR ON THE GEO
COMMITTEE. AND I KNOW THAT THIS
IS A CONSTANT, UH FIGHT IF YOU
WILL, AND I DO WANT TO COMMEND
THE AUTHOR FOR ATTEMPTING TO DO
SOMETHING TO RESOLVE THIS ISSUE
I'VE GOTTEN, YOU KNOW THE SAME
THING ABOUT COMPLAINTS. HOW THIS
IS NOT FAIR TO SOME TRIBES, BUT
AT THE R TO SOME SOME FOLKS, BUT
AT THIS POINT UM THIS IS THE
ONLY OPTION BEFORE US. I HAVEN'T
SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THIS IN THE
LAST SIX YEARS. BECOMES CLOSE TO
SOME KIND OF RESOLUTION, SO I DO
APPRECIATE ALL OF THE WORK THAT
YOU'VE DONE. AND I DO UNDERSTAND
THAT THERE IS SOME, YOU KNOW,
WORK STILL TO BE DONE, BUT AT
THIS MOMENT, THIS IS THE ONLY
THING BEFORE US. I THINK THE
ONLY OTHER OPTION IS TO LEAVE IT
ALONE. THE MORATORIUM EXPIRED
AND SO TO THOSE THAT YOU KNOW
ARE IN OPPOSITION. I HEAR YOU.
UM BUT NOT DOING ANYTHING
DOESN'T RESOLVE ANY ISSUE
WHATSOEVER. AND AT LEAST THIS IS
A STARTING POINT FOR US TO BE
ABLE TO HAVE SOME CONSIDERATION
OVER THIS AND AGAIN. I
UNDERSTAND THOSE THERE ARE IN
OPPOSITION, BUT AT THIS MOMENT,
THIS IS THE ONLY THING THAT WE
HAVE BEFORE US. AND THIS HAS
BEEN ATTEMPTED MANY TIMES BEFORE
AND HAS FAILED. SO I DO
APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU'VE
DONE IN THE FORWARD TO, UM YOU
KNOW, BEING PART OF WHATEVER
ADDITIONAL WORK HAS TO BE DONE
ON THIS, BILL. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU SO MUCH. MR. MR GIBSON,
PLEASE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
FIRST OF ALL, WANT TO PREFACE BY
STATEMENTS BY COMMENDING THE
AUTHOR? UM WHAT HAS BEEN SAID IS
THAT THIS AUTHOR HAS WORKED
DILIGENTLY. UM AND I HAVE NOT
SEEN ONE PIECE OF LEGISLATION
COME THROUGH HERE SINCE I'VE
BEEN ELECTED TO SERVE THAT HAS
BEEN PERFECT. HMM UM, AND WE'RE
GONNA PICK THERE'S WINNERS AND
LOSERS. UM AND I REALIZED THAT
THAT'S THE NAME OF THE GAME. UM
NOT TOO. MAKE PEOPLE LOSERS, BUT
IN THIS CASE, UM I KNOW THAT
YOU'VE WORKED EXTREMELY HARD.
YOU HAVE BROUGHT A COALITION
TOGETHER. UM, TO HAMMER OUT
SOMETHING THAT I DON'T I'M NOT
SURE WHO COULD HAVE DONE THIS,
BUT YOU AND I WANT TO SAY I
APPRECIATE YOUR LEADERSHIP, UM,
THAT YOU HAVE THAT HAS BEEN
DISPLAYED THROUGH THIS PIECE OF
LEGISLATION. AND I ALSO HEARD
HIM SAY THAT HIS WILLINGNESS TO
OPEN HIS MIND AND COLLABORATE UM
AND TAKE SUGGESTIONS AND SO
KNOWING THAT, YOU KNOW, I
SUPPORT THIS, AND I LOOK FORWARD
TO SEEING THIS BILL ON THE
FLOOR. UM AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I
THINK THAT IT'S GOING TO HELP
ALL OF US MOVE FORWARD, BUT MOST
OF THE THINGS THAT I CONCLUDE IS
BRINGING THEIR CARD ROOMS AND
THE TRIBES TOGETHER. UM AND I
HAVE NOT SEEN THAT SINCE I'VE
BEEN IN THIS POSITION, AND I
THINK THIS IS AN A GREAT, UM,
DOCUMENTARY UP TODAY, MOVING
FORWARD DISPLAYING THAT KIND OF
WORKING TOGETHER. I THINK WE CAN
ACCOMPLISH SO MUCH WHEN WE WORK
TOGETHER. AND I THINK THIS BILL
REPRESENTS THAT. SO THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
ANY OTHER ANY OTHER, UM MEMBERS
MAKING COMMENTS, MISS ANYBODY,
UM WELL, FIRST OF ALL, SAY THAT
THE THAT THE BILL ENJOYS A YES
RECOMMENDATION. ON AND THIS IS
ONGOING WORK THAT WE HAD FROM.
IF IT WAS HIS ONGOING WORK THAT
WE HAD FROM LAST YEAR. UH WHERE
WE ENGAGE IN A CONVERSATION. UM
. AND I'LL SAY THIS. THE
CONVERSATIONS DID BEGIN. TOWARDS
THE END OF LAST YEAR. AND I HAVE
TO SAY THAT THAT'S PRETTY
IMPRESSIVE THAT YOU'VE GOTTEN A
CONVERSATION THIS FAR. THE HARD
WORK THE ENDLESS AMOUNT OF OUT
OF HOURS. THE PLACE THAT YOU
HAVE GONE TO MEET WITH PEOPLE.
AH AND AT THE END OF THE DAY,
LOVE IT OR HATE IT. YOU'VE
YOU'VE GOT TO BE ABLE TO
APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT'S GONE
INTO THIS. UM I'M OF THE COLUMN
OF APPRECIATING THE WORK BECAUSE
I KNOW HOW HARD IT IS TO BUILD
COMPROMISE WITHIN THIS
PARTICULAR AREA. AND IT'S BEEN A
TOUGH POSITION BECAUSE UM,
EVERYWHERE IN THIS IN THIS
UNIVERSE OF POLICY CONVERSATION
, THERE ARE THOSE WHO WANT A
LITTLE BIT MORE. UM BUT TO GET
TO A POINT OR YOU BROUGHT THE
MOST AMOUNT OF PEOPLE TOGETHER.
CREATED THE LEAST AMOUNT OF
PAYING AMONGST PEOPLE. UM HAS
BEEN IN ITSELF PRETTY ADMIRABLE
. UM, SO I RECOGNIZE THAT THERE
ARE GOING TO BE, UH, GROUPS OF
PEOPLE OR FOLKS WHO ARE VERY
UPSET IN IN BOTH WORLDS. BUT I
WANT TO SAY THAT FROM THE
BEGINNING BUT I KNOW THE AMOUNT
OF WORK THAT'S GONE INTO THIS TO
UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS PROBABLY
AS TIGHT AS IT'S GONNA GET. UH
GIVEN THE SUBJECT AREA SO WE CAN
HOPE FOR A LOT MORE AND WE
SHOULD WORK TOWARDS AND THAT'S
WHY I'M ENCOURAGED THAT YOU'LL
STILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH
OPPOSITION. CONTINUE TO MEET
WITH PEOPLE LIKE YOU HAVE DONE
SO CONTINUE TO TAKE SUGGESTIONS
, BUT BUT ULTIMATELY, ULTIMATELY
, THIS HAS GOTTA LAND. UM AND
YOU'VE GOT IT IN A WAY THAT THAT
DOESN'T MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY,
WHO WAS SUPPORTIVE, AND I
RECOGNIZE THAT MANY OF THE
GROUPS WHO ARE SUPPORTIVE TODAY.
HAVE BEEN OPPOSED TO SOME OF THE
ELEMENTS IN THIS BILL, UH, FOR A
SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME, AND
THAT'S HARD TO DO. THAT'S HARD
TO DO THE FACT THAT YOU CAN HAVE
A CONVERSATION. SO WE'RE LOOKING
THE WORKING WITH YOU AND AS
YOU'RE WORKING WITH OTHER
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO MAKE
SURE THAT THIS LANDS BUT I
DIDN'T WANT TO GO UNRECOGNIZED
ABOUT YOUR HARD WORK. AND ALSO
THE FACT THAT THAT THERE WERE
FOR THOSE WHO MAY BE NOT SO
CLOSE TO THE CONVERSATION. THERE
STILL IS A LOT OF HOPES AND
WANTS FROM GROUPS OF PEOPLE ON
EITHER SIDE OF THE CONVERSATION
, AND EVEN FOLKS WERE SUPPORTIVE
. STILL WANT MORE. EVEN FOLKS
WERE UNOPPOSED. WISH THERE WAS
ELEMENTS IN OR OUT OF IT. UH I
DON'T WANT THAT TO GO ON ON SET.
UM SO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR
YOUR HARD WORK. I THINK WE HAVE
A FIRST AND A SECOND ALREADY, IF
I IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THIS
IN VOTES, SO I JUST ENJOYED A
YES RECOMMENDATION. UH AND MAN
SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
MAYBE 3 41. THE MOTION IS DUE
PASS TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. SANTIAGO
SANTIAGO. I LACKEY I E I AGUIAR
CURRY AGUIAR-CURRY KNOW BERMAN.
BERMAN. I, BRIAN BRIAN I.
CERVANTES CERVANTES. I DALI
DALI. I DAVIES DAVIES. I GARCIA.
GARCIA, I GIBSON. GIBSON I JOAN
SAWYER. JOHN SAWYER. I LO LOW I
MATHIS MATHIS. I'M MCCARTY
MCCARTHY. I'M MAKIN ER MAKIN. ER
I PATERSON PATERSON. I
QUIRK-SILVA QUIRK-SILVA. AYE,
RAMOS. RAMOS I, RIVAS RIVAS. I
RUBIO RUBIO. I TALK. TÔI
VALLAPUDUA. THE VALLAPUDUA. AYE.
THE BILL HAS THE VOTES WILL
LEAVE IT OPEN FOR ABSENT
MEMBERS. CHAIRMAN COMMITTEE
MEMBERS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH.
AND THE REPUBLICAN CAUCUS HAS
SOMETHING, UH SO I WANT TO OPEN
THE ROAD REALLY QUICKLY TO ALLOW
SOME OF THEM TO ADD ON IF YOU
WOULD INDULGE ME THAT REALLY
QUICKLY. AYE. I MOVED THAT DAY
BEFORE 16 PASS. SECOND.
CHILL SUCH AND THEN WE'RE GONNA
ADD THE OTHER BILLS. THAT'S HARD
JUSTICE. I APOLOGIZE THERE,
COMPLETE WITH THEIR BILLS. SO
WE'LL CONTINUE, MR MURATSUCHI.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR CHAIRMAN
. I UM GOING FROM A MORE.
COMPLICATED BILL TO A VERY
SIMPLE PROPOSAL HERE. I, UH. I
AM HERE TO PRESENT. UH THIS BILL
TO ASK FOR EQUAL TREATMENT FOR
JAPANESE SHOWED YOU VERSUS
KOREAN SOLDIER. YOU THIS. UH YOU
MAY ASK, YOU KNOW WHAT IS THE
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SHOW CHEW AND
SOJU? WHY I LOOK FORWARD TO, UH,
HOSTING A SHOW CHEW TASTING FOR
THE CALIFORNIA LEGISLATURE AND I
WANT TO INVITE ALL OF YOU TO
APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT SHOWED
YOU ACTUALLY IS MORE POPULAR IN
JAPAN, THEN THE MORE FAMOUS SAKE
UM, IN 1998, CALIFORNIA GRANTED
THE EXEMPTION, ALLOWING THOSE
WITH A BEER AND WINE LICENSE TO
SELL KOREAN SOJU. SO THIS BILL
IS SIMPLY ASKING FOR THE SAME
TREATMENT FOR JAPANESE SHOW CHEW
. UH THERE IS HISTORICAL AND.
YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF LIKE I
WOULD COMPARE IT TO YOU KNOW?
ASKING ALL RIGHT RIGHT NOW, IN
ORDER TO SELL SHOWED YOU YOU
HAVE TO LABEL IT AS SOJU. AND
YOU KNOW, I WOULD COMPARE THAT
TO LIKE. SAYING THAT YOU CAN
ONLY SELL TEQUILA BY CALLING IT
WHISKEY. YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT.
IT'S NOT RECOGNIZING THE
CULTURAL, THE CULTURAL AND YOU
KNOW THE IMPORTANT CULTURAL
HERITAGE OF THESE THESE, UH
DISTINCTIVE AND UNIQUE DRINKS
SPECIFIC TO THE CULTURE AND SO
ENJOYS A DO TASK. I APPRECIATE
THE POPULARITY OF CHAU CHIU
BEING EXHIBITED, UH, I HAVE HERE
APPEARING BY PHONE. JOHN
MCCARTHY AND CHICAGO ISHIHARA
WITH THE JAPANESE SAKE AND
SHOWED YOU MAKERS ASSOCIATION
TESTIFYING SUPPORT THANK YOU
JUST TO REMINDER. TWO MINUTES IS
WHAT? WE'RE HOPING PEOPLE LAND
AT. THANK YOU. AND I BELIEVE YOU
SAID PHONE, MADAM. UH,
MODERATOR. YEP THEIR LINES ARE
OPEN. GO AHEAD, AND, UM,
WHOEVER'S GOING FIRST OKAY. UM
THIS IS JOHN MCCARTHY OF
MCCARTHY HOSPITALITY. GOOD
AFTERNOON, CHAIRMAN SANTIAGO
VICE CHAIRMAN LACKEY AND MEMBERS
OF THE COMMITTEE. UM I'M A
PROFESSIONAL CHEF, RESTAURATEUR
AND LAWYER. UM I COME TO YOU
TODAY BEFORE BEFORE YOU ON
BEHALF OF THE JAPANESE SAKE AND
SHOWED YOU MAKERS ASSOCIATION
AND THEN MORE THAN 1000 MEMBERS
. I ALSO BRING MANY SUPPORTERS
OF THE BILL. COMPRISED OF
NUMEROUS CALIFORNIA BASED
IMPORTERS AND DISTRIBUTORS.
NEARLY 60 LETTERS HAVE BEEN
FILED IN SUPPORT BY SEVERAL
TRADE ORGANIZATIONS THAT
REPRESENT HUNDREDS OF SHOW SHOE
DISTILLERS, LARGE INTERNATIONAL
IMPORTERS AND DISTRIBUTORS
LOCATED AND BASED HERE IN
CALIFORNIA AND DOZENS OF
CALIFORNIA JAPANESE RESTAURANTS.
THIS LEGISLATION IS VERY
STRAIGHTFORWARD ATTEMPT TO ALLOW
JAPANESE SHOWED YOU JUST TELL US
TO PROPERLY LABEL THEIR PRODUCTS
. AS QUOTE UNQUOTE JAPANESE
SHOWED YOU CURRENTLY AND FOR THE
LAST 25 YEARS, JAPANESE SHOWED
YOU DISTILLERS AMOUNT REQUIRED
TO MISS LABEL. THEIR PRODUCT IS
SOLD YOU WHICH IS A KOREAN STILL
PRODUCT. IN ORDER TO SELL TO
TYPE 41 LIQUOR LICENSE HOLDERS.
THIS IS THE RESULT OF A
DECISION. BY THE CALIFORNIA, ABC
AND ERRONEOUS ONE THAT'S
RESULTED IN WHAT CAN ONLY BE
CALLED A CULTURAL FLIGHT. UM IN
1999, FOLLOWING IN 1998
EXCEPTION FOR KOREAN SOJU. THE
ABC SAID THAT SHOW TOO, WITH AN
A B B LESS THAN 24% COULD BE
SOLD TO SUCH RELATIONS HOLDERS
IF THEY INCLUDED THE WORDS TOLD
YOU ON THEIR BOTTLES. 84 16 DOES
NOT SEEK TO ALTER AMEND ANY
ASPECT OF BETWEEN 23 39 8.5 AS A
RESPECTS KOREAN SOJU. IN FACT,
WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS JUST
THE SAME EXCEPTION BEING
EXTENDED TO JAPANESE SHOWED YOU
FINALLY, IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT
THE STATE IN NEW YORK HAD A
SIMILAR EXCEPTION FOR TRAIN
SOJU, BASED ON CALIFORNIA'S LAW
, PASSED IN 1998 BY SUMMER, GOT
GOVERNOR KATHLEEN HOPEFUL OF THE
NEW YORK SIGNED A LAW ACCEPTING
JAPANESE CHURCH. YOU UM THAT IS
IDENTICAL TO THE ONE BEING
SOUGHT HERE AND ALSO PROVIDES
FOR PROPER LABELING. I THANK YOU
FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION OF THIS
BILL AND THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF
THE HUNDREDS, IF NOT, THOUSANDS
OF JAPANESE SHOWED YOU
DISTILLERS, IMPORTERS,
DISTRIBUTORS AND RESTAURANTS
THAT WILL BE POSITIVELY IMPACTED
BY THE RECOGNITION OF THIS
CULTURALLY SIGNIFICANT ISSUE
ADDRESSED IN THE LEGISLATION.
THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER?
UH OH, YEAH. THERE WAS ONE OTHER
SUPPORT WITNESS. THANK YOU.
MADAM OPERATOR, HARA. YES. HI
GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIRMAN
SANTIAGO AND VICE CHAIRMAN RACY
AND MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE. MY
NAME IS SCOTT GOING TO HOLLER
AND I AM TO JAPAN, SEKI AND YOU
MAKE IT ASSOCIATION. I APPEAR
BEFORE YOU TODAY TO GET SOME
BACKGROUND THEY GOT IN JAPANESE
AND KOREAN SOLDIER AND URGES YOU
TO APPROVE A B 416. KOREAN
SOLDIER AND JAPANESE SHOW TWO
VERY DISTINCT AND DIFFERENT
PRODUCTS IN THEIR OWN WAY,
HOWEVER, FOR OUR PURPOSES HERE,
THERE'S A SAND VERY STUCK
SIMILARITY THAT MARRIAGE PASSAGE
OR BABY FOR 16. AS A STARTING
POINT AND NAME AND NAMES AND THE
DESCRIPTION OF THE PRODUCTS ARE
QUITE SIMILAR. IN FACT, CHINESE
CHARACTERS USED FOR BOTH
PRODUCTS INDICATE THERE ARE BURN
ALCOHOL DISTRICT PRODUCT.
DESPITE THE SIMILAR NAMES, THE
PRODUCTS ARE UNIQUE TO EACH
RESPECTIVE CULTURE, IN FACT, IN
JAPAN IS CONSIDERED TO THE
NATIVE SPIRIT. THE PRIME
MINISTER OF JAPAN ASSERTED. THAT
HE WOULD SEEK CORRECT BECAUSE
THE MISSION OF THE SHOW TO AS A
CHARACTER RESOURCE AS HE NEEDS A
UNIQUELY JAPANESE PRODUCTS.
FURTHER. PRODUCTION DISTRIBUTION
OF EACH PRODUCT IS QUITE
DIFFERENT PRODUCTS CAN BE MADE
ON MUST PRODUCTION SKILLS, BUT
THE TRADITIONAL DISTRIBUTION IS
A DIFFERENT AS A GENERAL MOTHER
SHOWED TYPICALLY MANUFACTURER
USING ONE METHOD. WHEREBY
THERE'S NO FURTHER DISTRIBUTION
OF THE PRODUCT. FATHER THIS
HISTORY IS INVOLVED IN USING
CAUSING, WHICH IS THE MODE
ASSISTED IN THE PROCESS.
SOLDIERS GENERATED MORE THAN
ONCE AND THEN SOMETIMES AFRAID,
ABLE TO ACHIEVE A PARTICULAR
FLAVOR PROFILE. FATHER, MODERN
SOLDIER DISTRIBUTIONS GENERALLY
NO LONGER EMPLOYED IN PRODUCTION
, THE LEADING TO DIFFERENT FAVOR
AND THEN FINAL PRODUCTS. FOR THE
CURRENT STATE OF THE ROLE.
TALENT EXCEPTION UNDER THE LAW
PROVIDES THE KOREAN SOJU IS A BP
OF 24% OR LESS CAN BE SOLD TO
TAX 41 LICENSE HOLDER IF THEIR
PRODUCT IS MADE WITH AGRICULTURE
PRODUCTS. SIMILARLY JAPANESE
JAPANESE PRODUCT GOING TO
INTERRUPT AND SAY WE'VE GOT A
LITTLE BIT OVER THE TWO MINUTES
OF WE MIGHT WANT TO WRAP IT UP.
YES MOST OF COMMON RIGHTS AND
VERY AND THE SWEET POTATOES AND
IT MADE UP WITH THE A BBM OF 24%
OVER LESS. THOSE SAME
CHARACTERISTIC REQUIREMENTS ARE
MET UNDER THE LAW OF THE
EXCEPTIONS, SORT OF A B 416.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION
OF THE BEFORE 16 AND THEN THANK
YOU ON BEHALF OF THE MANY
JAPANESE AND JAPANESE AMERICANS
SUPPORTER OF THE COUNTRY.
IMPORTANT RESTORATION. THANK YOU
. THANK YOU THAT WE DO WE HAVE
ANY MAIN WITNESSES AND
OPPOSITION. I DON'T SEE ANY SO
WE'LL CONTINUE. I DON'T SEE ANY
, UM, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT AND
SUPPORT WHO'S IN THE ROOM? NAME
ORGANIZATION OF POSITION ONLY
ANY PUBLIC COMMENT. OPPOSITION
WHO WAS IN THE ROOM NAME
ORGANIZATION POSITION ONLY. I'LL
GO TO THE PHONES IN ANY
PARTICULAR ORDER AGAIN. NAME
ORGANIZATION AND POSITION ONLY
MADAM MODERATOR. IF YOU ARE, IF
YOU SAY IT IS OPPOSITION OR
SUPPORT EITHER EITHER OR
WHATEVER COMES EASIER FOR
EVERYBODY. ALL RIGHT, SO IF YOU
ARE IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION OF
A B 416 PLEASE PRESS 10. AND
THAT'S A B FOR 16. OKAY WE DO
NOT HAVE ANYBODY QUEUING UP. MR
CHERRY MAY GO AHEAD. ANY
QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE
MEMBERS. ALL RIGHT. WE'VE GOT
FIVE MOTIONS. UM YEAH, AND I
THINK I TALKED TO YOU ABOUT THE
IMPORTANCE OF THIS BUILDING. I
APPRECIATE YOUR HARD WORK AND
WOULD WOULD APPRECIATE BEING
BEING ABLE TO BE OUT OF THIS
JOINT AUTHOR. THANK YOU. UM. WE
HAVE A 1ST 2ND IF YOU'D LIKE TO
CLOSE THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I
LOOK FORWARD TO THE NEXT TIME
YOU'RE AT A JAPANESE RESTAURANT
AND STUFF ASKING FOR SAKE, ASK
FOR SHOW TOO. I RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR MY VOTE. THANK YOU, MADAM
SECRETARY. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
A B 416. THE MOTION IS DUE PASS
TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. SANTIAGO
SANTIAGO, I LACKEY. HI CI
AGUIAR-CURRY AGUIAR-CURRY. AYE
BERMAN. BERMAN I BRIAN, BRIAN, I
CERVANTES CERVANTES. I DOLLY.
DAVIES GARCIA. GARCIA I GIBSON
GIBSON, I JOAN SAWYER, JOHN
SAWYER. I'LL Ó HELLO. I'M
MATHIS. MATHIS I'M MCCARTY
MCCARTHY. I'M MAKIN ER MAKIN ER
I PATERSON PATERSON. I
QUIRK-SILVA RICK SILVA. I RAMOS.
RAMOS. I RIVAS. RIVAS. I RUBIO.
RUBIO I TO IVY VALLAPUDUA. THE
VALLAPUDUA. AYE. BILL PASSES,
WE'LL LEAVE IT OPEN FOR ROLL
CALL. FOR ADD ONS AND MADAM
SECRETARY. WHEN YOU'RE READY,
LET ME LET'S ADD. OTHERS ADD ON
UM. ON THE ADOPTION OF THE
COMMITTEE RULES. THE COMMITTEE
RULES WERE ADOPTED. ON THE
CONSENT CALENDAR. I WILL CALL
THE MISSING MEMBERS. BERMAN.
BERMAN. I, BRIAN BRIAN I
CERVANTES. CERVANTES, I GIBSON.
GIBSON. I LO. LOW I RIVAS RIVAS.
I RUBIO RUBIO, EITHER CONSENT
CALENDAR IS ADOPTED FOR A B TO
24 TO BE PASSED TO THE COMMITTEE
ON APPROPRIATIONS ON RECOMMENDED
CONSENT AND A B 2 61. TO BE
PASSED AS A DO PASS RECOMMENDED
CONSENT.
WE'RE GONNA LEAVE THE ROLE OPEN
FOR SOME OF THE MEMBERS TO COME
BACK AND OPEN UP AND I'LL LEAVE
THE DISCRETION TO THE VICE
CHAIRS. HOW LONG WE LEAVE IT
OPEN.
YEAH.
HEY LET'S GO SEE WHERE THEY ARE.
BOTH WAYS.
NO.
THE COMMITTEE RULES WERE ADOPTED
THE CONSENT CALENDAR PASSES WITH
22 EYES. FILE ITEM THREE. MAYBE
3 41 RAMOS PASSES WITH 21 EYES
AND ONE NO VOTE.
ITEM FOUR OPENING THE ROLE. ITEM
FOUR. A B 4 16 MURATSUCHI DOLLY
DOLLY! I DAVIES. NOT HERE. WELL,
NOW I'LL BE CLOSING THE ROLE.
RIGHT AND. FOR
OKAY, CASE. YOU DIDN'T HEAR
THAT. PAST THAT ITEM FOR PAST
21. I'VE. AND WE WILL NOW
ADJOURN. YES. COMMITTEE MEETING.