MORNING. WELCOME TO THE MARCH
15TH 2023 HEARING OF THE
ASSEMBLY ELECTIONS COMMITTEE.
WE'RE GONNA BEGIN AS A
SUBCOMMITTEE BECAUSE THEY QUORUM
IS NOT PRESENT. IF MEMBERS OF
THE COMMITTEE ARE MONITORING
THIS HEARING, PLEASE COME TO
ROOM 444, THE STATE CAPITAL, SO
THAT WE CAN ESTABLISH A QUORUM.
WE HAVE TWO OPTIONS FOR THE
PUBLIC TO TESTIFY. TODAY'S
HEARING IN PERSON. OR BY
MODERATED TELEPHONE SERVICE. THE
COMMITTEE HAS SEVEN BILLS ON ITS
AGENDA, INCLUDING TWO BILLS THAT
ARE PROPOSED FOR CONSENT. FOR
EACH BUILDER WILL BE A MAXIMUM
OF TWO PRIMARY WITNESSES AND
SUPPORT AND TWO PRIMARY
WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION WITH A
LIMIT OF TWO MINUTES. PER
WITNESS. AFTER WE'VE HEARD FROM
THE PRIMARY WITNESSES, THE
PUBLIC WILL HAVE UP TO 15
MINUTES IN TOTAL TIME FOR
ADDITIONAL COMMENT ON EACH BILL
, STARTING WITH MEMBERS OF THE
PUBLIC OR HERE IN THIS ROOM.
OTHER WITNESSES ARE LIMITED TO
PROVIDING THEIR NAME THE
ORGANIZATION THEY REPRESENT, IF
ANY, AND THEIR POSITION ON THE
BILL. ADDITIONAL COMMENTS WILL
BE RULED OUT OF ORDER. IF YOU
ARE UNABLE TO GET THROUGH ON THE
PHONE, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO
SUBMIT WRITTEN TESTIMONY THROUGH
THE PORTAL ON THE COMMITTEE'S
WEBSITE. THIS WRITTEN TESTIMONY
WILL BECOME PART OF THE OFFICIAL
RECORD OF THE BILL. FOR THOSE
WHO ARE WATCHING THIS HEARING
REMOTELY AND WHO WISH TO CALL IN
TO REGISTER THEIR POSITION. THE
CALLING NUMBER FOR THIS HEARING
IS 87769 TO 89 57 87769 TO 89 57
. THE ACCESS CODE IS 13154. YOU
CAN ALSO FIND THIS NUMBER ON THE
ASSEMBLY ELECTIONS COMMITTEE
WEBSITE. AS WELL AS ON YOUR TV
OR COMPUTER SCREEN. IF YOU ARE
CALLING IN, PLEASE ELIMINATE ALL
BACKGROUND NOISES INCLUDES
MUTING YOUR LIVESTREAM
BROADCAST. AND YOU'RE SMART
DEVICES TO REDUCE THE SOUND
DISTORTION. IF YOU'RE HAVING ANY
PROBLEMS WITH THE MODERATED
PHONE SERVICE, YOU CAN CALL THE
COMMITTEE. DIRECTLY AT 916319
2094 916319 2094. AND OUR TEAM
WILL BE THERE TO TRY TO HELP.
THANK YOU FOR BEARING WITH US AS
WE IMPLEMENT METHODS TO CONTINUE
TO SERVE THE PEOPLE OF
CALIFORNIA. YEAH. WHILE WE WAIT
FOR A QUORUM. AND WITH THOSE
ANNOUNCEMENTS OUT OF THE WAY, WE
WILL NOW MOVE ON TO THE
COMMITTEE'S AGENDA. LET'S TAKE
UP THE COMMITTEE. WELL WE'LL
TAKE UP THE COMMITTEE RULES AND
THE CONSENT CALENDAR LATER IN
THE HEARING. WE'RE NOW GOING TO
MOVE TO THE OTHER BILLS ON THE
COMMITTEE'S AGENDA. THE FIRST.
THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS
A B 13 BY ASSEMBLY MEMBER SALIH
YEAH. CHAIR FOR THE SUN. OKAY?
THANK YOU SEVEN MEMBER.
MUSICAL CHAIRS. MM HMM. MAYBE
AGAIN. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. YOU
KNOW WHAT BEFORE WE DO THAT?
YEAH WE CAN ESTABLISH A QUORUM
MATTERS. MADAM SECRETARY, WILL
YOU CALL THE ROLL? PRESIDENT
BRIAN HERE. LUCKY BENNETT, HERE.
A SALIH HERE HERE, LEE. HELLO
PELLERIN. PELLERIN HERE, BLANCA
RUBIO RUBIO. HERE WE HAVE A
QUORUM AND JUST TO GET IT OUT OF
THE WAY, BECAUSE I KNOW MEMBERS
HAVE TO GO IN AND OUT BEFORE WE
GET TO THE BILLS ARE FIRST ORDER
OF BUSINESS BUSINESS WILL BE TO
ADOPT THE COMMITTEE RULES FOR
THE 23 24 LEGISLATIVE SESSION.
POST COMMITTEE RULES ARE SIMILAR
TO THE RULES THAT WE'VE USED THE
LAST SEVERAL SESSIONS. SEVERAL
TECHNICAL AMENDMENTS CLARIFYING
CHANGES. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A
MOTION AND A SECOND. MADAM
SECRETARY. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
BRIAN BRIAN, I LACKEY. BENNETT
BENNETT, I STALEY. ALRIGHT,
RILEY. LOW PELLERIN TELLER AND I
, BLANCA RUBIO RUBIO, I THAT IS
OUT. THE RULES HAVE BEEN ADOPTED
OUR NEXT ITEM BUSINESSES TO TAKE
UP THE COMMITTEE'S CONSENT
CALENDAR. THERE ARE TWO BILLS ON
THE CONSENT CALENDAR. THOSE
BILLS ARE ITEM NUMBER FOUR A B 4
53 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S,
CERVANTES AND ITEM FIVE A B 507
BY ASSEMBLY MEMBER BRIAN. THANK
YOU. DOES ANY MEMBER WISHED TO
REMOVE AN ITEM FROM THE CONSENT
CALENDAR? I DON'T I DON'T WANT
TO REMOVE AN ITEM. BUT ON THE
CERVANTES BILL LIGHT MAY VOTE
DIFFERENTLY LATER. BUT WE CAN
MOVE FORWARD. I JUST WANT TO
MAKE COMMENTS. OKAY WE HAVE A
MOTION AND A SECOND MOTION BY MS
PELLERIN. SECONDED BY MS RUBIO.
MADAM SECRETARY. PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL. BRIAN HI, BRIAN. I LACKEY
. BENNETT BENNETT, I, SALLY, I
HIGHLY HELLO. PELLERIN PELLERIN
, I BLANCA RUBIO. BLANCA RUBIO.
I WAS OUT CONSENT CALENDAR HAS
BEEN APPROVED. THANK YOU SO MUCH
. ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S YOU MAY NOW
BEGIN WITH A B 13. THANK YOU, MR
CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE. I AM PLEASED TO
PRESENT TODAY. ASSEMBLY BILL 13.
UH NOTHING IS MORE SACRED IN OUR
AMERICAN SYSTEM OF GOVERNMENT
THAN THE RIGHT TO VOTE.
GENERATIONS OF AMERICANS HAVE
MADE GREAT SACRIFICES TO PROTECT
AND EXPAND OUR VOTING RIGHTS.
UNFORTUNATELY CONFIDENCE IN OUR
DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC IS IN
JEOPARDY BECAUSE THE PUBLIC IS
LOSING FAITH IN OUR VOTING
PROCESS. THE LACK OF SUFFICIENT
SAFEGUARDS TO MAIL VOTING POORLY
MAINTAINED VOTER ROLLS AND
DELAYED ELECTION REPORTING ARE
BREEDING DISTRUST IN OUR SYSTEM.
TO RESTORE TRUST. I HAVE
INTRODUCED ASSEMBLY BILL 13,
WHICH DOES THREE PRIMARY THINGS
. FIRST IT RESTORES OUR VOTING
SYSTEM TO PRE PANDEMIC
PROCEDURES. WHICH WORKED WELL
BEFORE AND VOTERS WOULD STILL BE
ABLE TO REQUEST A PERMANENT
ABSENTEE BALLOT AND VOTE BY
MAIL. IT JUST WOULD NOT BE THE
DEFAULT. SECOND. IT WOULD
REINSTATE THE PRIOR BAN ON
BALLOT HARVESTING SO THAT ONLY
FAMILY MEMBERS COULD HANDLE AND
TURN IN ANOTHER PERSON'S BALLOT.
AND THIRD, IT WOULD REMOVE ANY
BARRIERS FOR PEOPLE TO VOTE IN
PERSON BY MAKING ELECTION DAY, A
HOLIDAY. VOTING IN PERSON HAS
BEEN THE DEFAULT FOR THE
OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF OUR
NATION'S HISTORY. IT'S A SOLEMN
DAY ON WHEN ALL AMERICANS COME
TOGETHER TO EXERCISE THEIR POWER
OF CONSENT OVER OUR GOVERNMENT.
AND HISTORICALLY WE WOULD HAVE
THE RESULTS THE SAME DAY. NOT
WEEKS LATER. I DON'T NEED TO
TELL MEMBERS OF THIS COMMITTEE
ON ON WHEN WE WERE GETTING SWORN
IN. THERE WERE STILL ABOUT TWO
SEATS THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE THE
FINAL ELECTION RESULTS FOR AND
THAT WAS ALMOST A MONTH AFTER
THE ELECTION. OUR ELECTIONS.
SHOULD NOT BE DRAGGED INTO
PARTISANSHIP. THEY SHOULD BE
SACRED. AND THEY SHOULD BE AND
THEY SHOULD NOT BE UNDERMINED.
UM BY POLITICS. IN ORDER TO
RESTORE TRUST. I'M ASKING THE
COMMITTEE TODAY TO PLEASE
CONSIDER THE MERITS OF THIS
BILL. IT REALLY IS A INTENDED TO
BE A COMPROMISE BILL. I WOULD
SAY THE BEST INDICATOR OF A GOOD
COMPROMISES WHEN BOTH SIDES ARE
A LITTLE EQUALLY JUST SATISFIED
, AND I THINK YOU'LL HEAR THAT
TODAY. UH THE OPPOSITION TO MY
BILL IS UNHAPPY WITH RESTORING
THE PRIOR, UH, PROCEDURES FROM
2016 FOR MAIL VOTING AND THOSE
IN SUPPORT, DISLIKE MY PROPOSAL
TO MAKE ELECTION DAY A HOLIDAY.
I BELIEVE, BUT THAT BY DOING
BOTH, WE CAN ACCOMPLISH OUR
OBJECTIVES TO ENSURE THAT ALL
CALIFORNIANS HAVE THE RIGHT TO
VOTE AND ABILITY TO CAST A
BALLOT. AT THE SAME TIME, WE CAN
RESTORE THE PUBLIC'S TRUST IN
THE FAIRNESS OF OUR ELECTIONS
AND RENDER THE RESULTS
IRREFUTABLE. I LOOK FORWARD TO
ANSWERING YOUR QUESTIONS AND
HOPEFULLY WORKING WITH THE
COMMITTEE TO STRENGTHEN OUR
ELECTION SYSTEMS WHILE MAKING
VOTERS VOTING MORE ACCESSIBLE.
THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. AND I NOW
TURNED OVER TO MY WITNESSES.
THANK YOU WILL NOW HAVE THE
PRIMARY WITNESS AND SUPPORT AND
THEN OUR TWEENER. THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING, CHAIRMAN BRIAN.
HONORABLE MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE. MY NAME IS AUDREY
PERRY MARTIN. I AM A PARTNER TO
POLITICAL OFFERMAN. I'VE BEEN
PRACTICING ELECTION LAW
EXCLUSIVELY FOR ALMOST 20 YEARS
, UM, AND TAUGHT SEVERAL
ELECTION LAW COURSES ON THE
SUBJECT. I APPRECIATE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO TODAY'S TO SPEAK
IN SUPPORT OF A B 13 COVID AND
THE 2020 ELECTION COMBINED
CAUSED A BIG SHIFT IN STATE
ELECTION LAWS AROUND THE
COUNTRY. FOR WHEN THERE'S BEEN
AN EXTREMELY HEIGHTENED LEVEL OF
RHETORIC SURROUNDING THE
ELECTION PROCESSES AND
PROCEDURES, ISSUES OF VOTING
HOURS, MAIL BALLOTS AND EARLY
VOTING DIDN'T USED TO BE
PARTISAN AND CONTROVERSIAL. UM
THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE A
NEED TO BE TO MAKE A BALANCE
BETWEEN MAKING VOTING MORE
ACCESSIBLE AND MAKING SURE
ELECTIONS CAN BE RUN SMOOTHLY
AND SECURELY. MAYBE 13 IS A RARE
BILL THAT MAKES VOTING BOTH MORE
ACCESSIBLE AND MORE SECURE THE
COVID PANDEMIC HIT DURING
PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION YEAR AND
IT REQUIRED A QUICK DRAMATIC
RESPONSE TO ENSURE EVERYONE
COULD VOTE SAFELY. LAWS WERE
QUICKLY PASSED AROUND THE
COUNTRY TO INCREASE MAIL VOTING
WITHOUT MUCH REGARD TO HOW IT
FIT INTO THE STATE'S OVERALL
ELECTION SYSTEMS. THIS WAS
CLEARLY NECESSARY DURING THE
HEIGHT OF THE PANDEMIC. HOWEVER
THESE PANDEMIC LAWS HAVE BEEN
EXTENDED IN CALIFORNIA. UM AND
HAS CAUSED SOME PROBLEMS. ONE OF
THE PROBLEMS WE'VE SEEN IS HOW
SLOW MAIL BALLOTS ARE TO PROCESS
AS ALL OF YOU KNOW, IF YOU USE
MORE MAIL BALLOTS IS GOING TO
TAKE LONGER TO GET ELECTION
RESULTS. CALIFORNIA'S LOCAL
ELECTION OFFICIALS DO AN
INCREDIBLE JOB OF PROCESSING
MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF BALLOTS AS
QUICKLY AS THEY CAN. BUT AS
SOMEONE WHO SPENT A LOT OF TIME
OBSERVING BALLOT COUNTING, I CAN
ATTEST THAT IT'S INCREDIBLY
COMPLICATED, MULTI STEP PROCESS
WITH VERY LITTLE ROOM FOR ERROR.
UM CALIFORNIA HAS INCREASINGLY
MADE THE JOB OF THESE LOCAL
ELECTION OFFICIALS MORE
DIFFICULT. THE COVID LAW THAT
REQUIRED EVERY REGISTERED VOTER
TO BE MAILED ABOUT. IT ISN'T IN
AND OF ITSELF PROBLEMATIC IF
CALIFORNIA HAD PERFECT VOTER
ROLLS, MAINLY IN EVERYONE
BALANCE WOULDN'T BE AS
CHALLENGING AS IT HAS TURNED OUT
TO BE. UNFORTUNATELY OUR VOTER
ROLLS ARE NOT PERFECT. AND THERE
I UNDERSTAND THE IMPULSE TO NOT
REMOVE PEOPLE FROM VOTER ROLLS.
YOU DON'T WANT REGISTERED VOTERS
TO SHOW UP AND NOT BE ABLE TO
VOTE. BUT IT CAUSES A PROBLEM
WHEN THERE'S DUPLICATES AND
OUTDATED VOTER REGISTRATION AND
YOU'RE SENDING EVERYONE ABOUT
IT. FOR EXAMPLE, I TALKED TO AN
80 YEAR OLD MEN. THIS LAST
ELECTION WHO WAS STRESSED BEYOND
MEASURE BECAUSE HE HAD RECEIVED
FOUR BALLOTS IN THE MAIL, AND HE
DIDN'T KNOW WHICH ONE TO VOTE.
THEY WERE ALL ADDRESSED TO HIM
ALL AT THE SAME ADDRESS, ALL FOR
THE SAME ELECTION. UM, THIS IS
JUST ONE STORY, BUT I'VE BEEN
SUPERVISING CALIFORNIA COLLINS
FOR CANDIDATES FOR ALMOST 10
YEARS. AND WE CONSTANTLY ARE
RECEIVING EVER SINCE THIS NEW
LAW CAME ABOUT REPORTS OF PEOPLE
GETTING MULTIPLE BALLOTS, PEOPLE
GETTING BALLOTS FOR PEOPLE WHO
DON'T LIVE THERE. I'VE GOTTEN
LOTS OF CALLS FROM OUT OF STATE
PEOPLE WHO SAY SOMEHOW
CALIFORNIA TRACKED ME DOWN AND
SENT ME A BALLOT. UM NO. DO I
THINK THESE BALLOTS ARE BEING
FRAUDULENTLY VOTED? NOT NOT
NECESSARILY. I DON'T THINK
THAT'S VERY COMMON. BUT THE
PROBLEM IS, IT REALLY UNDERMINES
CONFIDENCE AND ELECTIONS. WHEN
SOMEBODY GETS MULTIPLE BALLOTS
IN THE MAIL, AND IT'S GETTING
MISS ADDRESSED BALLOTS. SO
BALLOT HARVESTING CAN CAUSE
SIMILAR PROBLEMS. UM, FOR
EXAMPLE, IN THE 2021 ELECTION
RECALL ELECTION, YOU HAD SEVERAL
COUNTIES WHO HAD LITTLE HOLE
PUNCHES AND YOU COULD ACTUALLY
MINUTE MARK SO I WILL FINISH UP
. UM A B. 13 IS A COMMON SENSE
BILL THAT MADE IT EASIER TO VOTE
. IF THE IF IT ROLLS THE CLOCK
BACK A COUPLE OF YEARS TO WHERE
THEY WERE PRE COVID MAKES
ELECTION DAY, A STATE HOLIDAY.
THIS IS THE TYPE OF BILL THAT
SHOULD BE RECEIVING OVERWHELMING
BIPARTISAN SUPPORT. IT SOLVES
MANY OF THE PROBLEMS AND
CONCERNS ABOUT CALIFORNIA'S
ELECTIONS, ALL WHILE MAKING IT
EASIER TO VOTE OVERALL TO
INCREASE ACCIDENTS AND
CONFIDENCE AND VOTED THANK YOU,
AND WE WILL NOW GO TO OUR
WITNESS IN THE MIDDLE. AH, THANK
YOU. UM MY NAME IS CALLING
BRITAIN. I'M WITH THE ELECTION
INTEGRITY PROJECT CALIFORNIA AND
WE SUPPORT THREE PORTIONS OF
THIS BILL OF STRONG VERY
STRONGLY. THE FIRST IS THAT THE
THAT IT ELIMINATES THE UNIVERSAL
BALLOT MAILING. UM THE MAILING
OF BALANCE TO ALL REGISTRANTS IS
RECKLESS AND EXTREME, YOU KNOW,
NOVEMBER 2020 ELECTION,
CALIFORNIA MAILED BALLOTS TO
OVER 400,000 REGISTRANTS WHO HAD
NOT VOTED OR UPDATED THEIR
REGISTRATIONS FOR 12 OR MORE
YEARS. NEARLY 42,000 HAD MOVED,
CANCELED, INACTIVE NOTATION ON
THEIR RECORDS, BUT THEY WERE
STILL MAILED BALLOTS AND OVER
66,000 OF THOSE QUESTIONABLE
REGISTRATIONS VOTED THE MOMENT
OF BALLOT GOES INTO THE MAIL TO
OR FROM A VOTER. IT LOSES THE
CHAIN OF CUSTODY AND BECOMES
VULNERABLE. MAILING A BALLOT TO
ANY INDIVIDUAL WITHOUT A RECENT
VERIFICATION OF THEIR
ELIGIBILITY, CORRECT RESIDENTS
OR EVEN THEIR EXISTENCE IS
RECKLESS AND WASTEFUL OF
MILLIONS OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS.
OVER A HALF. EXCUSE ME OVER HALF
A MILLION BALLOTS. RETURNED.
UNDER LIVABLE EACH ELECTION
BECAUSE THE UNIVERSAL MAILING
STATUTE THE COST OF PAPER
PRINTING POSTAGE OF THAT MANY
UNNECESSARY BALLOTS IS
ASTRONOMICAL. AND INCURRING. THE
COST IS IRRESPONSIBLE. THE ONLY
WAY TO AVOID THAT WASTE IS TO
EXPECT EXPECT CAPABLE VOTERS TO
PHYSICALLY GO TO THE POLLS AND
REQUIRE THOSE WHO CANNOT TO
APPLY TO FOR ABSENTEE BALLOT FOR
EACH ELECTION THAT THEY WHERE
THEY NEED IT. URGES AN END TO
UNIVERSAL BALLOT MAILING THANK
YOU AND PERMANENT VOTE BY MAIL
BELLING AS AS WELL, THE SECOND
POINT OF THIS BILL THAT WE
STRONGLY SUPPORT IS THE
ELIMINATION OF THE STATUTE THAT
ALLOWS UNRESTRICTED UNCONTROLLED
BALLOT HARVESTING AND RETURNS TO
THE PREVIOUS POSITION OF THE
VOTERS UP ON TWO MINUTES, AUTHOR
AUTHORIZED THEIR HOUSEHOLD
MEMBER TO SUPPLY THE BELT THIRD
POINT REAL QUICKLY IS TO REDUCE
THE SEVEN DAY GRACE PERIOD TO
THREE DAYS FOR BALLOT ARRIVAL.
THIS IS A BIG STEP IN THE RIGHT
DIRECTION, ANY POST ELECTION DAY
GRACE PERIOD. BOTH ENABLES THE
AND SENATE I INCENTIVIZES, VOTER
FRAUD AND BALLOT MANIPULATION.
WE WOULD PREFER TOTAL
ILLUMINATION OF THE POST
ELECTION DAY GRACE PERIOD AND WE
SUPPORT THE BONES OF THE BILL.
MAYBE 13 ENCOURAGE AMENDMENTS TO
FURTHER STRENGTHEN THE INTEGRITY
OF OUR ELECTIONS. UH THANK YOU
FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION
AND THEY DON'T SUPPORT THE
HOLIDAYS. SO THIS IS THE
COMPROMISE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR
TESTIMONY BECAUSE IT'S THE FIRST
DAY OF THE COMMITTEE HEARING OF
A LITTLE FLEXIBLE WITH THE TWO
MINUTES UM, WE'LL GET BETTER AS
FUTURE COMMITTEE HEARINGS GO. GO
ON WELL NEXT MOVE TO WITNESSES
AND SUPPORT. UM IN THE ROOM. IS
THERE ANYBODY IN THE ROOM WHO
WOULD LIKE TO REGISTER THEIR
SUPPORT FOR THIS BILL? IS THERE
A SINGLE PERSON IN THIS ROOM WHO
WOULD LIKE TO SUPPORT THIS BILL?
YES. YES, MA'AM. MY NAME IS LIZ
WAGON. I SUPPORT THE BILL. THANK
YOU SO MUCH. WE'RE NOT GOING TO
GO TO THE PHONE LINES. ARE THERE
ANY WITNESSES ON THE PHONE LINES
WHO'D LIKE TO REGISTER THEIR
SUPPORT FOR THIS BILL? TO SPEAK
IN SUPPORT OF THIS BILL, PLEASE
PRESS 10 ON YOUR TELEPHONE
KEYPAD. YOU'LL HEAR AN
INDICATION YOU'VE BEEN PLACED
INTO Q AND YOU'RE 18 T
SPECIALIST WILL PROVIDE YOU WITH
YOUR LINE NUMBER WITH WHICH
YOU'LL BE IDENTIFIED. YOU MAY
REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THE QUEUE
BY REPEATING THE ONE THAN ZERO
COMMAND. WELL FIRST GO TO LINE
23 GO AHEAD. NAME ORGANIZATION
POSITION ON THE BILL. MY NAME IS
JUDY FRANKEL. I LIVE IN RANCHO
PALOS FORTIES. I STRONGLY
SUPPORT THIS BILL. BUT THAT'S
NOT THE WHOLE REASON I ALSO
SUPPORT A B 83. THANK YOU. LINE
19. YES. I THINK WENDY AND
CALLING YET TO SUPPORT ÁP 13.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE DO HAVE
OTHERS QUEUED UP ONE MOMENT
WHILE WE PROVIDE THEM THEIR LINE
NUMBERS. WE'LL GO NEXT TO LINE
32 GO AHEAD. HI MY NAME IS
ASHLEY TUTU AND I'M FROM SAN
JOSE, CALIFORNIA AND I SUPPORT
THIS BILL AND MAYBE 30 OR A B
83. THAT'S WRONG. THANK YOU SO
MUCH. LINE 12. HI MY NAME IS
APRIL BEAN AND SACRAMENTO COUNTY
. I'M WITH ELECTION INTEGRITY
PROJECT CALIFORNIA AND I AM IN
SUPPORT OF THIS BILL. LINE 13.
HI MY NAME IS JEANETTE FELTS
FROM SACRAMENTO COUNTY WITH E I
P T A AND I SUPPORT THIS BILL IS
AMENDED. LINE 17. JACKIE CO. TO
SUPPORT THE BILL AS AMENDED
ELECTION INTEGRITY TEAM
EVALUATED COUNTY. LINE 26. LINE
26. YOUR LINE IS OPEN. PLEASE
CHECK YOUR MUTE FEATURE OR PICK
UP YOUR HANDSET. MOVING ON TO
LINE 31. YES HELLO? UM I'M
HUNTER COBB. AND WITH THE
ELECTION INTEGRITY TEAM OF
ALAMEDA COUNTY AND I SUPPORT
THIS BILL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU,
HUNTER. MR CHAIR. WE HAVE NO
FURTHER NO FURTHER LINES IN. Q.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE'RE NOW
GOING TO GO TO PRIMARY WITNESSES
AND OPPOSITION. YEAH I THINK
THERE'S ROOM. THEY'RE JUST GONNA
OKAY, MR BERMAN. THANK YOU FOR
JOINING US SANDWICH THERE. YOU
KNOW, I ALWAYS A PLEASURE, MR
CHAIR FOR THE PURPOSES OF
TESTIMONY. YOU WERE JUST A
RESIDENT OF MENLO COUNTY. I
PRESUME A RESIDENT OF MEMO. PARK
SER. NOTHING ELSE. OKAY MENLO
PARK. YOU SEE HOW WELL I KNOW
NORTHERN CALIFORNIA? YEAH THANK
YOU FOR JOINING US YOUR YOUR
HISTORY SHARING THIS COMMITTEE
AND SERVING ON THIS COMMITTEE IS
MADE A LASTING IMPACT FOR
CALIFORNIA. YOU EACH HAVE TWO
MINUTES. GO AHEAD. ALRIGHT UM,
GOOD MORNING. SHE REMEMBERS PAUL
SPENCER. I'M A VOTING RIGHTS
ATTORNEY WITH DISABILITY RIGHTS,
CALIFORNIA AS AN ADVOCATE FOR
VOTING RIGHTS, YOU KNOW,
RESPECTFULLY OPPOSED THIS BILL.
AND DISABILITY RIGHTS.
CALIFORNIA HAS BEEN JOINED BY A
LARGE LIST OF OTHER
ORGANIZATIONS IN THE STATE WHO
ARE OPPOSED TO THIS BILL. FOR I
THINK REALLY COMPELLING REASONS
, AND I JUST WANT TO READ THE
LIST. IT'S A C L U CALIFORNIA
ACTION ADVANCINGJUSTICE ASIAN
LAW CAUCUS. ASIAN AMERICANS
ADVANCING JUSTICE, SOUTHERN
CALIFORNIA, CALIFORNIA BLACK
POWER NETWORK. CALIFORNIA DONOR
TABLE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL
VOTERS. CALIFORNIA STATE COUNCIL
OF SERVICE EMPLOYEES
INTERNATIONAL UNION. INLAND
EMPIRE UNITED LEAGUE OF WOMEN
VOTERS IN CALIFORNIA, THE
NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF LATINO
ELECTED AND APPOINTED OFFICIALS
AND VOICES FOR PROGRESS. THIS
BILL WOULD SIGNIFICANTLY
RESTRICT VOTING ACCESS FOR
CALIFORNIA'S VOTERS AND
UNDERMINE THE PROGRESS THAT THE
LEGISLATURE HAS MADE IN RECENT
YEARS TO ENSURE ALL ELIGIBLE
VOTERS CAN PARTICIPATE. THE
DEMOCRATIC PROCESS. TURNING BACK
THE RULES TO SEND EVERYONE A
REGISTERED VOTE BY MAIL BALLOT.
ELIMINATION OF VOTES ENTERS THE
PROHIBITION ON VOTERS TO
DESIGNATE AN AUTHORIZED
REPRESENTATIVE TO PICK UP THEIR
BALLOT. THESE ARE JUST A FEW OF
THE EXAMPLES OF THE MANY
RESTRICTIONS AND MAYBE 13 LOOK,
THESE CHANGES WOULD
DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACT
UNDERREPRESENTED COMMUNITIES AND
VOTERS WITH DISABILITIES WHO
OFTEN HAVE LIMITED ACCESS TO
TRANSPORTATION. IT MAY HAVE
DIFFICULTY LEAVING THEIR HOMES
TO VOTE. LIMITING THE AUTHORIZED
REPRESENTATIVES WHO MAY RETURN
ABOUT IT WOULD FURTHER REDUCE
ACCESS. UM MANY VOTERS RELY ON
FAMILY, FRIENDS AND OTHERS FOR
ASSISTANCE WITH VOTING.
ADDITIONALLY THE VOTER'S CHOICE
ACT HAS BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN
EXPANDING ACCESS TO VOTING IN
SOME COUNTIES. THIS IS
ESPECIALLY HELPFUL FOR PEOPLE
WHO FACE BARRIERS TO VOTING ON
ELECTION DAY. UM REPEALING THE
VOTER'S CHOICE ACT WOULD
UNDERMINE WORK THAT HAS BEEN
DONE TO MAKE VOTING EASIER AND
MORE ACCESSIBLE FOR ALL
CALIFORNIANS. IN ADDITION, YOU
KNOW, SHORTENING THE TIME FRAME
FOR ELECTION OFFICES TO RECEIVE
A BALLOT. UM THAT'S ALSO TURNING
BACK ON SOMETHING THAT PROTECTS
PEOPLE'S ABILITY TO HAVE THEIR
VOTES COUNTED. FINALLY I WANT TO
EMPHASIZE THAT THIS BILL WOULD
WEAKEN CALIFORNIA'S DEMOCRACY BY
MAKING IT HARDER TO VOTE. VOTERS
SHOULD HAVE EQUAL ACCESS TO THE
BALLOT BOX. BUT ALSO ACCESS THAT
MAKES VOTING LESS BURDENSOME.
AND CALIFORNIA HAS BEEN TAKING
STEPS OVER THE YEARS EVEN BEFORE
THE PANDEMIC SLOWLY AND OVER
TIME TO MAKE VOTING EASIER TO
DO, UM MAYBE 13 WOULD BE VERY
REVERSE THIS PROGRESS. UM WOULD
RESTRICT THE ABILITY OF
CALIFORNIA'S TO PARTICIPATE IN
VOTING IN THE DEMOCRATIC
PROCESS. THEREFORE, I URGE YOU
TO, YOU KNOW, OPPOSE, MAYBE 13
AND CONTINUE TO SUPPORT POLICIES
THAT ENSURE ALL ALL ELIGIBLE
CALIFORNIANS HAVE FULL ACCESS TO
THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU, MR BERMAN. THANK
YOU, MR CHAIR. I APPRECIATE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO COME JUST AS A
PRIVATE CITIZEN TO TALK ABOUT
THIS BILL. I WANT TO THANK THE
AUTHOR. I RESPECTFULLY COME IN
OPPOSITION TO A B 13 13. THAT'S
THAT'S OMINOUS. UH UM. BUT I
WANT TO THANK HIM BECAUSE ANY
OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND TALK
ABOUT ALL OF THE PRO DEMOCRACY
LAWS THAT THIS COMMITTEE AND
THIS LEGISLATURE HAS PASSED OVER
THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS IS A
GOOD DAY. THAT'S A GREAT DAY TO
COME AND TALK ABOUT HOW WE'VE
INCREASED ACCESS TO THE BALLOT
IN CALIFORNIA. HOW WE'VE MADE
OUR ELECTIONS SYSTEMS SAFER,
MORE SECURE, MORE ACCESSIBLE FOR
ALL 40 MILLION RESIDENTS, OR AT
LEAST ALL 22 PLUS MILLION VOTERS
THAT WE HAVE IN CALIFORNIA IT
WAS ALLUDED TO, BUT DURING THE
HEIGHT OF THE PANDEMIC, WE PASS
A LAW TO OPEN TO MAKE SURE THAT
EVERY CALIFORNIA GETS A VOTE BY
MAIL. THE LEGISLATURE PASSED
THAT LAW THE WISE
RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE COMMITTEE
STAFF AND THE COUNCIL OF
COMMITTEE STAFF. UH AND THEN
WHAT HAPPENED WAS WE HAD THE
BIGGEST VOTER TURNOUT IN
CALIFORNIA IN 70, PLUS YEARS.
ELECTIONS, OFFICIALS ACROSS THE
STATE TALKED ABOUT WHAT A SMOOTH
ELECTION IT WAS HOW WE MADE IT
EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO VOTE, BUT
HOW IT WAS ALSO EASIER FOR THEM
TO PROCESS THE BALLOTS AND GET
THEM COUNTED. IT TOOK A COUPLE
OF DAYS. BUT I WOULD ARGUE THAT
OUR DEMOCRACY IS WORTH WAITING
FOR AND MAKING SURE THAT OUR
DEMOCRACY IS ACCURATE. ARE
VOTING IN OUR ELECTIONS ARE
ACCURATE IS WORTH WAITING FOR,
BUT WE'VE DONE MORE THAN THAT.
CALIFORNIA WAS THE FIRST STATE
IN THE COUNTRY. TO CREATE ITS
OWN OFFICE OF ELECTION. CYBER
SECURITY TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR
ELECTION SYSTEMS ARE SECURE.
CALIFORNIA ADOPTED THE TRACK MY
BALLOT SYSTEM TO INCREASE
TRANSPARENCY, INCREASED VOTERS,
FAITH IN OUR DEMOCRACY. IT'S
WHERE THEY CAN FOLLOW THEIR
BALLOTS THROUGH THE MAIL. MAKE
SURE THAT IT WAS RECEIVED BY
ELECTIONS OFFICIALS AS AS
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S. PELLERIN USED
TO BE AN ELECTION OFFICIAL AND
MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS COUNTED.
AND IF IT WASN'T THEY HAD AN
OPPORTUNITY TO FIX IT. UM NOW
FROM WHAT I CAN TELL, THE ONLY
STATE OF REASON FOR THIS BILL,
IS THAT SUPPOSEDLY VOTERS HAVE
LOST THEIR FAITH IN DEMOCRACY.
BUT WHAT WASN'T DISCUSSED WAS
WHY VOTERS HAVE LOST THEIR FAITH
IN DEMOCRACY. VOTERS HAVE LOST
THEIR FAITH IN DEMOCRACY BECAUSE
THEY'VE BEEN LIED TO THEY'VE
BEEN LIED TO BY PRESIDENT TRUMP.
THEY'VE BEEN LIED TO. BY RUDY
GIULIANI. THEY'VE BEEN LIED TO
BY RUPERT MURDOCH. AND, UH,
WHAT'S THAT MORON? UM TUCKER
CARLSON, UH AND THEN THESE
PEOPLE GOT CAUGHT WITH THEIR
PANTS DOWN RIGHT, SENDING TEXT
MESSAGES TO EACH OTHER TALKING
ABOUT HOW THEY KNOW THE ELECTION
WASN'T STOLEN, BUT THEN GOING ON
FOX NEWS IN LINE TO THEIR
MILLIONS OF VIEWERS. ERODING
AMERICA'S FAITH IN OUR
DEMOCRACY. SO THIS COMMITTEE HAS
AN OPPORTUNITY WE CAN DOUBLE
DOWN ON DEMOCRACY. AND THE
COMMITTEE CAN REJECT THIS. THIS
OBVIOUSLY PARTISAN BILL. OR WE
CAN GET CAUGHT UP IN THE LIES.
THE FRAUDSTERS WHO WOULD SOONER
SELL OUT THEIR DEMOCRACY JUST TO
MAKE A BUCK. AND HAVE BEEN
CAUGHT IN THOSE LIES. UM AND BE
FURTHER CYNICAL ABOUT THE SAFETY
OF OUR ELECTION SYSTEM IN
CALIFORNIA, WHICH EVERYBODY HAS
SAID IT'S SECURE THERE. AND IF
PEOPLE DO COMMIT FRAUD, WE HAVE
LAWS TO GO AFTER THOSE PEOPLE
WHO COMMIT ELECTION FRAUD. AND I
SUPPORT THAT. IF PEOPLE COMMIT
ELECTION FRAUD, THEY SHOULD BE
PROSECUTED. SO FAR, IT'S MOSTLY
ONLY BEEN REPUBLICANS ACROSS THE
COUNTRY WHO ACTUALLY COMMITTED
ELECTION FRAUD. UH, BUT WE HAVE
LAWS ON THE BOOKS TO MAKE SURE
THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN. BUT TO
RESCIND TO ERODE ACCESS TO THE
BALLOT. UH BECAUSE NATIONAL
LEADERS HAVE LIED. TWO AMERICANS
DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE. SO I
RESPECTFULLY OPPOSED THE BILL,
BUT I ENCOURAGE AND WISH THE
COMMITTEE AND ITS GOOD JUDGMENT
TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. WITNESSES AND
OPPOSITION. IS THERE ANYBODY IN
THE HEARING ROOM WHO WISHES TO
REGISTER THEIR OPPOSITION TO
THIS BILL? NAME ORGANIZATION
POSITION ON THE BILL. MORNING
TRICIA WEBER ON BEHALF OF
CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF CLERKS
AND ELECTION OFFICIALS, AND WE
OPPOSED THE BILL. GOOD MORNING,
ERIC HARRIS ON BEHALF OF THE
OPPOSITE OF SECRETARY OF STATE
IN OPPOSITION TO THE BILL.
MORNING DOOR ROSE LEGAL WOMEN
VOTERS IN CALIFORNIA AND VERY
STRONG OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL.
MORNING WITH DAWSON A STILL YOU
CALIFORNIA ACTION AND
OPPOSITION. THANK YOU. MARK EAST
KING MASON, CALIFORNIA
ENVIRONMENTAL VOTERS WERE IN
OPPOSITION OF THE BILL. ROBERT
COPELAND. CONCERNED CITIZENS
OPPOSE THE BILL. WE'RE NOW GOING
TO TURN INTO THE PHONE LINES.
OPERATORS ANYBODY IN THE PHONE
LINES WHO WISHES TO REGISTER
THEIR OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL.
IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK IN
OPPOSITION TO THE BILL, PLEASE
PRESS 10 AT THIS TIME. AND WE'LL
START WITH LINE. 37, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. YES UH, THIS IS NOT
HUNTER BIDEN OR THE FBI. THIS IS
GERALD PETRA NOOK OF ALAMEDA
COUNTY ELECTION INTEGRITY TEAM
WITH STRONG SUPPORT AND NO SENSE
SO MUCH, PLEASE. THANK YOU.
PLEASE FOR FOLKS WISHING TO
REGISTER THEIR OPPOSITION TO
THIS BILL. WE ARE ON THE
OPPOSITION PHASE OF THE
COMMITTEE. THEN WE'LL GO TO LINE
26, PLEASE GO AHEAD. HELLO I
WANT THIS IS AN INDIE PETRINA
FROM THE ALAMEDA ELECTION
INTEGRITY TEAM AND I WANTED TO
SAY I'M IN SUPPORT OF THIS BILL
AS AMENDED. I'M SORRY I MISSED
MY TURN EARLIER. THANK YOU FOR
PARTICIPATING IN DEMOCRACY. ARE
THERE ARE THERE ANY OTHER FOLKS
ON THE PHONE LINE? YES WE HAVE
ABOUT SEVEN STILL ONLINE HERE.
NEXT WE GO TO LINE 27, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. I'M MOLLY BROWN IN MOUNT
SHASTA, CALIFORNIA AND I AM IN
STRONG OPPOSITION TO A B 13 8.
YEAH 13. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
LINE. 24, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
GREETINGS CALIFORNIA TALENT.
CAROLYN FOWLER. INGLEWOOD
CALIFORNIA, CALIFORNIA ELECTION
PROTECTION STRONG OPPOSITION TO
THIS BILL. THANK YOU, MISS
FOWLER. LINE. 45, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. ISABELLE STORY.
CALIFORNIA VOTER IN SANTA MONICA
, I'M IN STRONG OPPOSITION TO A
B 13. LINE. 10, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
HI MY NAME IS TERRORISTS FROM
TERRA BRIAN'S AGE 55, SOME IN
OPPOSITION TO THE BILL. THANK
YOU. LINE. 47, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS DAN
OCON PLUS REPRESENTING THE
CALIFORNIA FOUNDATION FOR
INDEPENDENT LIVING CENTERS, AND
WE OPPOSE. LINE. 28, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. LOVELY PER SELF AND SHURA
, LONGTIME CALIFORNIA VOTER. I
AM AN OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL.
THANK YOU. AND LASTLY, WE'RE
GONNA LINE 42. PLEASE GO AHEAD.
IF IRAN BOONE BOONE ENTERPRISES
REDONDO BEACH, CALIFORNIA STRONG
OPPOSITION BUILT. AND MR CHAIR.
WE HAVE NO ONE ELSE IN Q AT THIS
TIME. THANK YOU. OPERATOR WE'RE
NOW GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. ARE THERE ANY
MEMBERS? WE SHOULD SPEAK ON THIS
BILL? THIS PELLERIN HELLO. SO AS
SOMEBODY HERE WHO HAS WORKED IN
ELECTIONS FOR 27 A HALF YEARS
AND I'VE SEEN ELECTIONS EVOLVE
OVER THOSE DECADES, UM, WE HAVE
COME A LONG WAY. AND MAKING SURE
THAT VOTING IS ACCESSIBLE TO
EVERYBODY IS SO VITALLY
IMPORTANT TO OUR DEMOCRACY, AND
THIS BILL TAKES US BACK. PRIOR
TO PRE PANDEMIC AND SO, UM, I AM
SUPPORT. I AM SUPPORTIVE OF
PEOPLE HAVING ACCESS TO VOTING
AND MAKING IT AS EASY AS
POSSIBLE WHILE MAINTAINING OUR
INTEGRITY AND TRANSPARENCY AND
ACCURACY AND EFFICIENCY. AND
JUST BECAUSE THINGS TAKE TIME
DOES NOT MEAN THAT THINGS ARE
GOING WRONG. SO HAVING THE TIME
TO DO THE ESSENTIAL AUDITS, POST
ELECTION IS ESSENTIAL. TO
ENSURING AN ACCURATE VOTE COUNT,
SO I WILL BE VOTING NOTE TODAY.
CORRESPOND BRIEFLY OR. OR IS
THAT OKAY? I JUST WANT TO BE
CLEAR. THE INTENT IS NOT TO, UM
LOWER ACCESS OR DENY ANYONE'S
ACCESS. I ASSURE YOU, ANYONE WHO
WANTS A MAIL BALLOT WILL STILL
HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RECEIVE
ONE AND CAN SIGN UP FOR A
PERMANENT ABSENTEE BALLOTS SO
THEY WILL RECEIVE IT IN
PERPETUITY. SO I REALLY I JUST I
CAN'T STRESS ANY CLEAR. IT'S NOT
I'M NOT. IT'S NOT INTENDED TO
LOWER ACCESS. IN FACT, UM,
THAT'S WHY I ADDED THE HOLIDAYS
TO INCREASE ACCESS, SO THERE'S
NO BARRIERS FOR PEOPLE TO VOTE
ON ELECTION DAY, BUT, UM, I
SHARE. THAT GOAL. I DON'T SEEK
TO UNDERMINE IT. I ASSURE YOU
WITH OUR CURRENT VOTING SYSTEM,
PEOPLE CAN VOTE 29 DAYS BEFORE
AN ELECTION AND THE VOTES
CENTERS WILL OPEN 10 DAYS PRIOR
TO AN ELECTION AND THERE'S
MULTIPLE OPPORTUNITIES TO VOTE.
THIS BILL ADDS BARRIERS TO
PEOPLE FOR VOTING, SO I CANNOT
SUPPORT IT. BUT THANK YOU. THANK
THANK YOU. MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE WHO WISH TO SPEAK MR
LACKEY. YEAH FIRST OFF, LET ME
JUST EXPRESSED A LITTLE
DISAPPOINTMENT. I BELIEVE THAT
INSULTING OPPONENTS ONLY CREATES
INVALIDATES DIVISION. I DON'T
THINK IT IT ADDRESSES THE ISSUE
EFFECTIVELY. I THINK EVERYBODY
SHOULD REALIZE THAT OUR STATE
AND OUR COUNTRY IS VERY DIVIDED
RIGHT NOW, AND I THINK WHAT WE
NEED IS HEALING. AND NOT
EXACERBATING THE PROBLEM. I'VE
NEVER SEEN ANOTHER MEMBER COME
IN TO COMMITTEE. AND BRING
INSULTING REMARKS. VERY
DISAPPOINTED. BUT BACK TO YOUR
ISSUE, SIR. ALL YOUR BILL IS
TRYING TO DO AS RETURN TO
NORMALCY. WHICH IS WHAT WE HAD.
JUST TWO YEARS AGO, AND THERE
WAS NO OPPOSITION. AT THAT POINT
TO THE WAY WE WERE CONDUCTING
BUSINESS. UM THE COVID EMERGENCY
HAS EXPIRED. ALL YOU'RE TRYING
TO DO IS GET BACK TO NORMAL. AND
THERE'S NO EVIDENCE THAT SENDING
MAIL BALLOTS TO EVERYONE. AND
WAITING SEVEN DAYS AFTER THE
ELECTION. HELPS DEMOCRACY. SO
I'M VERY PROUD TO EMBRACE
DEMOCRACY. AND EVEN BITE THE
BITTER PILL OF ELECTION DAY. UH,
HOLIDAY. UM I DON'T THINK THAT.
IS REALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR
HERE, BUT, UH SO BE IT BECAUSE I
BELIEVE YOUR OTHER TENANTS OF
THIS BILL ARE VERY WORTHY AND
WOULD HELP BRING INTEGRITY BACK
TO OUR SYSTEM. MR LEE. THANK YOU
SO MUCH, SO I STRONGLY AM GOING
TO BE OPPOSING THE SPILL WHILE
YOU KNOW, WHILE THE STATE
EMBRACED VOTE BY MAIL FOR ALL
VOTERS ACROSS THIS STATE DUE TO
RECENTLY MIND COUNTIES WITH
SANTA CLARA IN ALAMEDA HAVE
ALREADY FORWARD TO EMBRACE THIS
FOR A LONG TIME, AND IT HAS
SHOWN THAT WE HAVE STRONGER
PARTICIPATION, STRONGER TURNOUT
, AND I WANT TO REMIND THAT
EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US ELECTED
THIS ROOM, INCLUDING YOURSELF,
THE AUTHOR BENEFITED FROM VOTE
BY MAIL, ESPECIALLY BENEFITED
FROM VOTE BY MAIL AND THE REMOTE
VOTING PROCEDURES. SO THIS IS
GOING BACKWARDS AND REGRESSING.
AND WE SHOULD BE LEADING THE
NATION AND SAYING THERE SHOULD
BE LESS BARRIERS TO ACCESS LESS
BARRIERS TO VOTING AND MORE
PEOPLE SHOULD BE ABLE TO
PARTICIPATE. EVERYONE ELDERS
SHOULD BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE,
AND WE SHOULD LOWER THOSE
BARRIERS. THAT'S WHAT
CALIFORNIA'S VISION IS. THAT'S
THE MODEL. WE'RE GOING FORWARD,
AND WE SHOULD NEVER TAKE ONE
STEP BACK. SO I'M GOING TO BE
OPPOSING THIS BILL TODAY. ARE
THERE ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE WHO WISH TO SPEAK ON
THIS BILL? MR SALIM, A CLOSE
THANK YOU, MR CHAIR, AND I
APPRECIATE THE, UH THE
COMMITTEE'S TIME AND THOUGHTS
THAT WERE EXPRESSED. THIS REALLY
ISN'T INTENDED TO BE A PARTISAN
BILL, AND, UM I HOPE WE CAN JUST
LOWER THE TEMPERATURE A LITTLE
BIT AND JUST HAVE A CONVERSATION
. UM, THERE ARE TWO MAIN ISSUES
, UM, THAT MY BILL SEEKS TO
ADDRESS WITH THE WITH THE VOTING
. UM THE MAIL VOTING, AND THAT
IS ONE. THE VOTING ROLLS HAVE
TRADITIONALLY NOT BEEN VERY
ACCURATE AND AS THE REASONS
DISCUSSED, SOME PEOPLE GET
MULTIPLE BALLOTS OR PEOPLE HAVE
MOVED UP BALLOTS. AND SO THAT
THAT CREATES. THAT'S WHAT
CREATES DISTRUST IS WHEN PEOPLE
GET BALLOTS THAT THEY SHOULDN'T
AND PEOPLE TALK AND SPREAD THAT
SO THAT'S ONE CONCERN IS MAYBE
MOVING FORWARD MR CHAIR. WE CAN
LOOK AT HOW WE CAN IMPROVE OUR
VOTING ROLLS IF WE'RE GOING TO
CONTINUE THE MAIL BALLOTS, BUT
THE ALSO THE OTHER PROBLEM IS
THE BALLOT HARVESTING. I HAVE A
REAL PROBLEM WITH THE BALLOT
HARVESTING BECAUSE WE HAVE
UNKNOWN PEOPLE. GOING TO
PEOPLE'S HOMES. UH FOR ALMOST A
MONTH BEFORE THE ELECTION AND
PERSUADING PEOPLE TO HAND OVER
BALLOTS AND WE HAVE NO IDEA WHO
THESE PEOPLE ARE. WE HAVE NO
IDEA WHAT THE CONVERSATION IS AT
THE DOOR. WE DON'T KNOW IF THERE
BEING PRESSURED TO VOTE A
CERTAIN WAY OR OR SOMEONE IS
HANDING OVER THEIR BALLOT WHEN
THEY DON'T WANT TO. I JUST HAVE
A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT THE
BALLOT HARVESTING. AND SO WHAT?
THIS BILL DOES IT SAYS. YEAH IF
YOU WANT TO VOTE BY MAIL, YOU
CAN. BUT THE DEFAULT SHOULD BE
EVERYONE VOTES IN PERSON ON
ELECTION DAY, JUST LIKE THE REST
OF THE WORLD DOES, AND I THINK
THERE'S SOMETHING SACRED ABOUT
THAT. I MEAN, WE COME TOGETHER
IN A SINGLE DAY AS AMERICANS AND
WE MAKE A DECISION ON ONE DAY
AND THEN WE HAVE THE RESULTS.
SOON AFTER. SO I JUST THINK IT'S
A GOOD THING. I KNOW MR LOWE HAS
INTRODUCED THE ELECTION DAY
HOLIDAY IN THE PAST, AND THAT'S
SORT OF WHERE I GOT THE IDEA
THAT INCLUDED, UM SO IT COULD BE
A BIPARTISAN EFFORT. UM AND I
JUST WANT TO CLOSE WITH WITH ONE
STATEMENT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK
IT'S A PARTISAN ISSUE. THERE WAS
THIS COMMISSIONED BY PRESIDENT
FORD AND JIMMY CARTER. AND THEY
RAISED THE CONCERN ABOUT THE
GROWING USE OF ABSENTEE BALLOTS,
AND I QUOTE GROWING USE OF
ABSENTEE VOTING HAS TURNED THIS
AREA VOTING INTO THE MOST LIKELY
OPPORTUNITY FOR ELECTION FRAUD
NOW ENCOUNTERED BY LAW
ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS. THESE
CASES ARE ESPECIALLY DIFFICULT
TO PROSECUTE SINCE THE MISUSE OF
A VOTER'S BALLOT OR THE PRESENCE
OR PRESSURE ON VOTERS OCCURS
AWAY FROM THE BOWLING POLLING
LOCATION. OR ANY OTHER OUTSIDE
SCRUTINY. THESE OPPORTUNITIES
FOR ABUSE SHOULD BE CONTAINED,
NOT ENLARGED AND AGAIN. THAT'S A
BIPARTISAN REPORT BETWEEN UM
PRESIDENT FORD AND JIMMY CARTER
. SO WITH THAT I CLOSED MR CHAIR
AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
THE COMMITTEE THAT YOU'RE
QUOTING WAS 20 YEARS AGO,
PRESIDENT FORD NEARLY 60 YEARS
AGO. IT WAS 11. WHEN THAT
COMMITTEE DID THAT ANALYSIS, WE
HAVE COME A LONG WAY. SINCE
THEN. OUR VOTING INTEGRITY HAS
COME A LONG WAY. SINCE THEN. I
THINK THE ELECTION DAY HOLIDAY
IS A GREAT IDEA OF SUPPORTED IT
BEFORE WE WOULD HAVE BEEN HAPPY
TO WORK WITH YOU TO ACTUALLY
AMEND THIS BILL TO SOMETHING
THAT'S PASSABLE, LIKE HAVING AN
ELECTION DAY HOLIDAY. WHAT? I'M
DEEPLY CONCERNED BY HIS
REPEALING THE VOTER'S CHOICE
ACT. THE IDEA THAT WE GET RID OF
DROPBOX IS WE'D GET RID OF
UNIVERSAL VOTE BY MAIL, WHICH
HAVE SHOWN TO INCREASE THE
EFFICACY OF OUR ELECTIONS AND
THE PARTICIPATION OF OUR
ELECTION SPECIFICALLY FOR BLACK
BROWN, POOR INDIGENOUS
COMMUNITIES WITH PEOPLE WHO
SUFFER FROM DISABILITIES, AND SO
ARE THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE WITH
DISABILITIES. ACCESSIBILITY IS
THE GOAL OF A THRIVING DEMOCRACY
, RIGHT. WE KNOW DEMOCRACY
THRIVES WHEN EVERYBODY CAN
PARTICIPATE IN IT. THERE ARE
STATES AROUND THIS COUNTRY THAT
ARE ROLLING BACK VOTING RIGHTS
WITH DOZENS OF LEGISLATION.
THERE'S A SINGLE STATE IN THE
UNION THAT HAS TWO DOZEN BILLS
TO ROLL BACK VOTING RIGHTS WERE
NOT GOING TO DO THAT IN
CALIFORNIA. I'M ALSO
DISAPPOINTED. I'M DISAPPOINTED
THAT THIS IS THE FIRST BUILD
THIS COMMITTEE IS GOING TO HEAR
THIS SESSION, ONE THAT UNDOES
THE RIGHTEOUS WORK THAT'S BEEN
DONE IN CALIFORNIA OVER THE LAST
SEVERAL YEARS. WE DIDN'T JUST DO
THIS. BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC.
THE PANDEMIC FORCED US TO
QUESTION THE FEATURES OF OUR
DEMOCRACY THAT WEREN'T WORKING
AS WELL AS THEY COULD HAVE BEEN
THIS ENTIRE TIME. I'M INCREDIBLY
PROUD OF THIS WORK. AND FOR
THOSE REASONS I CAN'T SUPPORT
THIS BILL TODAY. MADAM
SECRETARY, CAN WE CALL THE ROLL?
MOTION IF THERE'S EMOTION, IS
THERE A 2ND 2ND MR CHAIR LET'S
CALL THE ROLL. THE MOTION IS DO
PASS AND BE REFERRED BE REFERRED
TO THE COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENTAL
ORGANIZATION, BRIAN NO, BRIAN.
NO LUCKY LUCKY I BENNETT. DAILY
I E I LI LI, NO LOW PELLERIN
PELLERIN KNOW BLANCA RUBIO
BLANCA RUBIO NÓ. WE'RE GOING TO
LEAVE IT OPEN FOR ABSENT MEMBERS
, BUT I WOULDN'T HOLD MY BREATH.
WE'LL PUT IT ON CALL. THERE'S
STILL A CHANCE EVERYONE CHAIR
EVERYONE GETS TO VOTE IN THIS
COMMITTEE. NEXT WE HAVE MR LEE A
B 83. WELCOME BACK AND WELCOME
TO THE COMMITTEE.
GUARD ANYMORE. RIGHT HERE. HMM.
YOU MAY BEGIN. THANK YOU, MR
CHAIR. I PRESENT A SOMEWHAT
CONTRASTING BILL. I SUPPOSE THIS
MORNING. I WANT TO THANK THE
CHAIR AND MEMBERS TODAY FOR
HEARING A B 83. THEY GET FOREIGN
MONEY OUT BILL THIS BILL BEFORE
YOU AFFIRMS A FOUNDING PRINCIPLE
OF THIS NATION AND PROTECT THE
INTEGRITY OF CALIFORNIA'S
DEMOCRATIC SELF GOVERNMENT FROM
FOREIGN ACTORS. MAYBE 83 WOULD
LIMIT THE INFLUENCE OF FOREIGN
COUNTRIES AND ENTITIES WHO OWN A
SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF SHARES IN
A U. S BASED CORPORATIONS FROM
BEING ABLE TO EXERT INFLUENCE
OVER OUR ELECTIONS SPECIFICALLY
A CORPORATION WITH DEEMED
FOREIGN INFLUENCE IF 1% OF ITS
SHARES ARE OWNED BY SINGLE
FOREIGN INVESTOR AND THIS COULD
BE A LONDON HEDGE FIRM, RUSSIAN
OLIGARCH. OR A OIL PRINTS FROM
THE MIDDLE EAST. I HAVE 45% OF
SHARES OWNED BY A MULTIPLE
FOREIGN INVESTORS IN AGGREGATE.
A FOREIGN ENTITY PARTICIPATES IN
DECISION MAKING WITH RESPECT TO
STATE OR LOCAL POP POLITICAL
SPENDING, AND SHORTLY AFTER THE
2010 CITIZENS UNITED RULING,
THEN PRESIDENT OBAMA WARNED IN
THE STATE OF THE UNION THAT THE
SUPREME COURT HAD OPENED THE
DOOR TO FOREIGN MONEY IN U. S
ELECTIONS AND 13 YEARS LATER, WE
HAVE EVIDENCE THAT THIS HOLDS
TRUE. FOREIGN INVESTMENTS IN U.
S COMPANIES HAVE SKYROCKETED IN
RECENT YEARS IN 1982 FOREIGN
INVESTORS OWN ONLY ABOUT 5% OF
ALL U. S CORPORATE EQUITY AND BY
2019. THAT NUMBER JUMPED TO 40.
SO 14 SORRY FOR TWO AND FIVE,
WHILE FOREIGN INVESTORS ARE
PROHIBITED BY FEDERAL LAW FROM
SPENDING MONEY TO INFLUENCE U. S
ELECTIONS, THERE IS A LOOPHOLE
BEING EXPLOITED BY FOREIGN
INVESTORS WITH LARGE AMOUNTS OF
SHARES IN U. S CORPORATIONS.
FOREIGN COMPANIES WITH DOMESTIC
SUB SUBSIDIARIES ARE ESPECIALLY
ABLE TO CIRCUMVENT THESE
PROHIBITIONS AND EXERT INFLUENCE
IN POLITICAL SPENDING. OWNING 1%
OF SHARES IN A MAJOR CORPORATION
CAN AMOUNT TO HUNDREDS OF
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, WITH LARGE
SHAREHOLDERS HAVING DIRECT LINES
, THE CEO AND I WAS LOOKING AT
HOW DO WE LOOK AROUND THE WORLD?
SAUDI ARABIA'S SOVEREIGN WEALTH
FUND NOW HOLDS SHARES AND AMAZON
GOOGLE VISA, MICROSOFT, DISNEY
UBER PAYPAL AND ZOOM AMONG MANY
OTHER U. S BASED CORPORATIONS
THAT ARE VERY, VERY FAMILIAR
WITH US. SAUDI ARABIA IS THE
ULTIMATE GOAL IS TO BECOME THE
LARGEST SOVEREIGN WEALTH FUND IN
THE WORLD BY 2030 WITH ASSETS
OVER WORTH OVER TWO TRILLION
WITH A T TRILLION DOLLARS.
SAUDIA SAUDI ARABIA'S WEALTH
FUND HAS MORE THAN TRIPLED ITS
HOLDINGS IN U. S COMPANIES FROM
THE END OF 2020 TO $43.4 BILLION
DURING THE THIRD QUARTER OF 2021
MORE RECENTLY, WHEN ELLEN MUST
ACQUIRE TWITTER AND TOOK IT
PRIVATE. THE PRINCE OF SAUDI
ARABIA AGREED TO CONVERT HIS
NEARLY $2 BILLION OF SHARES OF
TWITTER. HE NOW APPROXIMATELY 4%
OF THE ENTIRE COMPANY AND
RUSSIAN OLIGARCHS SUCH AS LEN
BLAH, BLAH ETHNIC HAVE BEEN TIED
TO MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN
CONTRIBUTIONS, INFLUENCE
ELECTIONS AND ALSO THE SOVEREIGN
WEALTH FUND OF NORWAY AS A STAKE
IN AROUND 1900 COMPANIES, AND AN
AVERAGE HOLDS 1.4% OF SHARES
ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
MULTINATIONAL CORPORATIONS AND
FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS HAVE USED
THEIR MONEY AND POWER TO
INFLUENCE THE OUTCOME ELECTIONS
TO ADVANCE AGENDAS IN THEIR
FAVOR. IT IS TIME WE PUT AN END
TO FOREIGN ACTORS AND FOREIGN
ENTITIES USING THEIR POWER AND
WEALTH TO INFLUENCE CALIFORNIA'S
ELECTION. WITH THAT, LIKE TO
INTRODUCE MY TWO WITNESSES
IMPORT WITH ME IN PERSON. I HAVE
DOOR ROSE, DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF
LEGAL WOMEN VOTERS ON THE PHONE.
I HAVE RON FINE, WHO IS THE
LEGAL DIRECTOR OF FREE SPEECH
FOR PEOPLE? MR ROSE. IT'S GOOD
TO SEE YOU. YOU MAY BEGIN. DO
YOU WANT ME TO BE IN OR DO YOU
WANT YOUR PRIMARY WITNESS TO
SPEAK FIRST? WHATEVER OKAY, WHY
DOESN'T HE FRAME FINE. RUN IF
YOU'RE ON THE PHONE, WHY DON'T
YOU GO FIRST? THEN HOW ABOUT
THAT? THANK YOU. MY NAME IS RON
STEIN. I AM THE LEGAL DIRECTOR
OF FREE SPEECH FOR PEOPLE WHERE
A NATIONAL NONPARTISAN,
NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION AND WE'VE
WORKED ON SIMILAR LEGISLATION
AROUND THE COUNTRY ALONGSIDE THE
CENTER FOR AMERICAN PROGRESS.
THERE ARE THREE MAIN QUESTIONS
THAT PEOPLE ASK ABOUT THIS BILL.
IS IT CONSTITUTIONAL? IS IT
WORKABLE? AND ARE THE THRESHOLDS
REASONABLE IN TERMS OF IS IT
CONSTITUTIONAL? YES I EXPLAINED
THIS IN DETAIL MY WRITTEN
TESTIMONY AS WELL AS THAT
ATTACHED FROM PROFESSOR LAURENCE
TRIBE OF HEART. IN LAW SCHOOL
AND FEDERAL ELECTION
COMMISSIONER ELLEN WEINTRAUB.
VERY BRIEFLY. THE SUPREME COURT
CITIZENS UNITED DECISION PACIFIC
, LI SAID IT WAS FLYING TO QUOTE
ASSOCIATIONS OF CITIZENS AND
THAT'S NOT WHAT THE TYPES OF
BUSINESSES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
OUR AND A LATER SUPREME COURT
DECISION CALLED BLUMEN MADE A
CARVE OUT FOR FOREIGN SPENDING.
THERE'S ALSO A VERY SIMILAR
SEATTLE LAW THAT'S BEEN IN
EFFECT SINCE JANUARY OF 2020
WITHOUT BEING CHALLENGED IN
COURT AS SOME DATA POINT OF ITS
LEGALITY. SECOND IS IT WORKABLE
? YES SO FIRST OF ALL, MOST
BUSINESSES ARE PRIVATELY HELD.
THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHO THEIR
INVESTORS ARE. AND OF COURSE,
THE VAST MAJORITY OF BUSINESSES
IN CALIFORNIA AND AROUND THE
COUNTRY HAVE NO FOREIGN
INVESTMENT. THIS ISN'T ABOUT
IMMIGRANTS OVER PEOPLE HERE WHO
MAY OWN A STAKE IN THE BUSINESS
THIS ABOUT FOREIGN INVESTORS
ABROAD NOW WITH PUBLICLY TRADED
CORPORATIONS, IT IS TRUE THAT
THEIR OWNERSHIP CAN CHANGE
THROUGHOUT THE DAY, BUT THEY
HAVE VERY WELL ESTABLISHED
PROCEDURES THAT THEY USE.
MULTIPLE TIMES A YEAR TO
DETERMINE EXACTLY WHO OWNED HOW
MANY SHARES AS OF ANY PARTICULAR
DATE. AND I ATTACHED THAT
TESTIMONY FROM PROFESSOR JOHN
COATES WAS A FORMER GENERAL
COUNSEL OF THE SECURITIES
EXCHANGE COMMISSION, EXPLAINING
THAT PROCESS MY FINAL POINT IS
ABOUT THE THRESHOLDS TO SOME
PEOPLE. 1% DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A
LOT. BUT THIS ISN'T ABOUT
CONTROL. IT'S ABOUT INFLUENCE
AND AT A MAJOR CORPORATION, SAY
S AND P 500. ONLY A HANDFUL OF
SHAREHOLDERS WILL HAVE 1% THAT'S
HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS
. AND I EXPLAINED THAT IN MY
TESTIMONY HOW THE SECURITIES
EXCHANGE COMMISSION ACTUALLY
RECENTLY LOWERED THE THRESHOLD
THAT IT HAD FROM 1% TO BELOW 1%
FOR BEING IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO BE
ABLE TO QUALIFY TO SUBMIT A
SHAREHOLDER RESOLUTION
INFORMALLY SPEAKING, SOMEONE WHO
OWNS 1% OF SHARES CAN GET THE
CEO ON THE PHONE WITHIN 24 HOURS
. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WOULD
DISPUTE THAT 1% INVESTORS HAVE
MULTIPLE CHANNELS. OF FORMAL AND
INFORMAL, INFORMAL INFLUENCE ON
CORPORATE GOVERNANCE, INCLUDING
NOT JUST PROXY VOTES, BUT THEY
CAN MAKE MOVES ON THE BOARD
PRESSURE TO FIRE THE CEO, THEY
CAN THREATEN TO DUMP SHARES,
WHICH WOULD CRASH THE PRICE AND
SO FORTH. SO PUTTING ALL THIS
TOGETHER. A B 83 IS
CONSTITUTIONAL. IT'S WORKABLE
AND THE THRESHOLDS ARE DRAWN
FROM CORPORATE GOVERNANCE
RESEARCH THAT SHOWS THAT AT THIS
LEVEL A CORPORATION'S DECISION
MAKING PROCESS IS INFLUENCED,
AND I'LL SUM UP WITH A QUOTE
FROM THE FORMER CEO OF EXXON
MOBIL. LEE RAYMOND, WHO SAID I'M
NOT A U. S COMPANY, AND I DON'T
MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON WHAT'S
BEST FOR THE U. S. AND THIS BILL
WOULD SAY THAT COMPANIES LIKE
THAT. SHOULD NOT BE SPENDING TO
INFLUENCE CALIFORNIA'S
ELECTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU,
RON. MISS ROSE. GOOD MORNING,
CHAIR, BRIAN MEMBERS, UM, HERE
IN SUPPORT OF A B 83 SO AS YOU
MIGHT EXPECT, THE LEAGUE
BELIEVES THAT OUR CAMPAIGN
FINANCING SYSTEM SHOULD LEVEL
THE PLAYING FIELDS FOR EQUITABLE
CONTRA COMPETITION AMONG
CANDIDATES RIGHT? IT SHOULD
COMBAT CORRUPTION, AND IT SHOULD
PRIORITIZE THE, UH THE INTERESTS
OF ORDINARY VOTERS, NOT BIG
MONEY, NOT SPECIAL INTERESTS.
AND AS YOU'VE HEARD, UM, THE
CITIZENS UNITED LOOPHOLE THAT WE
HAVE HERE ALLOWS FOREIGN
INVESTORS TO CIRCUMVENT OUR LAWS
AGAINST POLITICAL CONTRIBUTIONS
BY SECURING OWNERSHIP INTERESTS
IN THE UNITED STATES
CORPORATIONS RIGHT? THIS
LOOPHOLE HAS ACTUALLY SORT OF
BLOWN UP IN RECENTLY, YEARS AS
WE'VE SEEN INCREASING FOREIGN
INVESTMENT IN U. S COMPANIES.
FOREIGN INFLUENCE. CORPORATIONS
HAVE FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITIES
RIGHT THERE ANSWERABLE TO THEIR
SHAREHOLDERS. THEY DO NOT CENTER
THE INTEREST OF CALIFORNIANS.
BUT OUR ELECTIONS HAVE GOT TO BE
RESPONSIVE TO THE INTERESTS OF
CALIFORNIANS NOT SKEWED TOWARDS
FOREIGN INTERESTS. WE'RE ALREADY
EXPERIENCING A REAL CRISIS OF
DEMOCRACY WITH MIS AND
DISINFORMATION THAT IS
PERPETUATED TO A VERY DISTURBING
DEGREE BY BY CERTAIN FOREIGN
POWERS. THE CORRUPTING INFLUENCE
OF BIG MONEY IN POLITICS IS
MAGNIFIED WHEN CITIZENS OF OTHER
COUNTRIES ARE ALLOWED TO
INFLUENCE OUR ELECTIONS BY
SIMPLY INVESTING IN US COMPANIES
. A B 83 IS A REALLY BIG IDEA,
RIGHT? IT'S AN AUDACIOUS IDEA TO
TRY TO PROHIBIT CORPORATIONS
WITH CERTAIN PERCENTAGES OF
FOREIGN PRINCIPAL OWNERSHIP, OR
WHERE OR WHERE FOREIGN ENTITIES
PARTICIPATE IN POLITICAL
SPENDING DECISIONS FROM MAKING
CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS AND
EXPENDITURES. BUT IT'S THE RIGHT
THING TO DO. IT'S THE RIGHT
THING TO DO TO PUSH BACK ON
POLITICAL MANIPULATIONS BY THESE
FOREIGN INFLUENCE CORPORATIONS.
IT'S GOING TO FOSTER TRUST
PUBLIC TRUST IN OUR ELECTIONS,
AND IT'S GOING TO ALSO PROTECT
REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY. SO FOR
THESE REASONS, THE LEAGUE OF
WOMEN VOTERS URGES AN AYE VOTE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS ROSE
. ARE THERE ANY WITNESSES? IN
THE ROOM WHO WOULD LIKE TO
REGISTER THEIR SUPPORT. FOR THIS
BILL. NAME ORGANIZATION POSITION
ON THE BILL. GOOD MORNING CHAIR
BRIAN AND MEMBERS JAMES MICHAEL
PALO WITH THE AMERICAN
FEDERATION OF STATE COUNTY
MUNICIPAL EMPLOYEES AND SUPPORT
OF A B 83. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS
CALLING BRITAIN WITH THE
ELECTION INTEGRITY PROJECT,
CALIFORNIA AND WE ARE IN SUPPORT
OF A B 83. THANK YOU. ROBERT
COLOR FOR RETIRED CAPTAIN
RETIRED FOR RICH SUPPORT THE
BILL STRONG SUPPORT. MARK EAST
KING MASON, CALIFORNIA
ENVIRONMENTAL VOTERS IN SUPPORT
OF THE BILL. LIZ WAGUIH, AND I'M
IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL. THANK
YOU SO MUCH. WE WILL NOW GO TO
THE PHONE LINES THERE. ANYBODY
ON THE PHONE LINE, TOO, WISHES
TO REGISTER THEIR SUPPORT FOR
THIS BILL. IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK
IN SUPPORT, PLEASE PRESS ONE AND
ZERO THIS TIME. WE'LL START WITH
LINE. 23, PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI
I'M JUDY FRANKEL. I LIVE IN
RANCHO PALOS BIRDS AND I
STRONGLY SUPPORT A B 83 URGE YOU
TO PASS IT OUT OF THIS
COMMITTEE. AND NEXT, WE'RE GONNA
LINE 21, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
JENNIFER TANNER ON BEHALF OF ALL
THE 82 GROUPS OF INDIVISIBLE
CALIFORNIA STAYED STRONG. AND
THE 25 OTHER GROUPS TOTALING 105
, PLUS GROUPS. WE ARE IN STRONG
SUPPORT OF A B 83 TO KEEP OUR
SELF GOVERNANCE. THANK YOU.
LINE. 28, PLEASE GO AHEAD. UH,
DO YOU HEAR ME? YES. YES, WE
CAN. THANK YOU. IT'S LOVELY,
PURCELL. I AM A LONGTIME VOTER,
AND I SUPPORT THE BILL.
STRONGLY. THANK YOU. AND NEXT,
WE'RE GONNA LINE 13. PLEASE GO
AHEAD. MY NAME IS JEANETTE FELT
SACRAMENTO COUNTY WITH THE I P C
A. AND I STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS
BILL. AND LINED 46. PLEASE GO
AHEAD. HMM. I'M SORRY, 46. YES
UH, OPEN. UNFORTUNATELY YOU'RE
BREAKING UP, BUT I THINK I HEARD
YOU SAY I STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS
BILL. YES YES, I'M A PRETEXT.
YES, MA'AM. AND WE'RE GONNA LINE
12, PLEASE GO AHEAD. HELLO THIS
IS APRIL BEING FROM SACRAMENTO
COUNTY, AND I AM WITH ELECTION
INTEGRITY PROJECT CALIFORNIA AND
I AM IN STRONG SUPPORT OF THIS
BILL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. BLIND
53, PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI THIS IS
LAWRENCE ABBOTT FROM SAN
LEANDRO. WITH THE CALIFORNIA
ALLIANCE FOR RETIRED AMERICANS,
AND WE ARE IN STRONG SUPPORT OF
A B 83. LINE. 18, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. HI THIS IS AMY JOEY IN
ONE CREEK WITH MONEY OUT FOLDERS
IN AND INDIVIDUAL CIVIL
RESISTERS WANTED CREEK AND WE'RE
IN STRONG SUPPORT OF A B 83 URGE
YOU TO PASS IT OUT OF THIS
COMMITTEE. THANK YOU. WE'VE GOT
A LINE 11, PLEASE GO AHEAD. YES
GOOD MORNING, CINDI FOWLER.
MONEY OUT VOTERS IN IN LONG
BEACH, AND WE ARE IN STRONG
SUPPORT OF THIS BILL. PLEASE
PASS IT. WE'VE GOT A LINE 41,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS MICHAEL DRASKOVIC AND
WITH LOS ANGELES FOR DEMOCRACY
VOUCHERS AND THE DEMOCRACY
POLICY NETWORK, AND WE HAVE BOTH
ORGANIZATIONS ARE IN STRONG
SUPPORT OF THIS, BILL. THANK
YOU. AND LINE 32. PLEASE GO
AHEAD.
LINE NUMBER 32, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
OKAY WE'LL MOVE ON TO LINE 42.
PLEASE GO AHEAD. YES I RAIN
BOONE, CEO WITH BOONE
ENTERPRISES THAT ARE REDUNDANT
BEACH. WE STRONGLY SUPPORT A B
83. THANK YOU. LINE. 44, PLEASE
GO AHEAD. LEHMAN VERY PLASTIC
COUNTY ELECTION INTEGRITY
PROJECT CALIFORNIA IN SUPPORT OF
THIS BILL, ALSO, AS I WAS
DROPPED OUT OF THE QUEUE FOR A B
13. I WANT TO SUPPORT THAT BILL
AS WELL. THANK YOU. LINE. 50,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. HELLO. YES, WE
CAN HEAR YOU. THIS LINE 50. YES,
MA'AM. OH THANK YOU, BECAUSE I
DID NOT GET THE NUMBER IN THE
BEGINNING. ANYWAY THIS IS CONNIE
THOMAS WITH THE COMMUNITY ACTIVE
MOBILIZATION TEAM IN LOS
ANGELES. AND WE STRONGLY SUPPORT
A B 83 WE ACTUALLY PASSED OUT OF
COMMITTEE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU,
CONNIE. WE'VE GOT A LINE 24,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. LINE NUMBER 24,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. BREATHING
CAROLYN FOWLER AND GO TO
CALIFORNIA MOVIE AND CALIFORNIA
ELECTION PROTECTION IN STRONG
SUPPORT OF 80 83. THANK YOU.
LINE NUMBER 51, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS KAREN
POWERED. I'M CALLING FROM SOLANO
COUNTY AND I'M WITH ELECTION
INTEGRITY PROJECT'S CALIFORNIA
CALLING IN SUPPORT OF A B 83.
THANK YOU. LINE NUMBER 55,
PLEASE GO AHEAD.
START. PLEASE SUPPORT THE BILL.
THANK YOU. HELLO? YES. YES MRS
JAMES. THIS IS JAMES PROVENZANO
FROM SAN DIEGO COUNTY PRIVATE
CITIZEN. PLEASE SUPPORT A B 83.
THANK YOU, JAMES. THANK YOU.
WE'VE GOT A LINE. 30, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. I'M SORRY. DID YOU SAY
LINE? 30? I APOLOGIZE. YES, WE
DID. OKAY GOOD MORNING. THIS IS
DEENA EAGLES ROUTE COACH OF THE
LEGISLATIVE ACTION COMMITTEE
WITH THE LOS ANGELES COUNTY
DEMOCRATIC PARTY, WHICH
REPRESENTS MORE THAN THREE
MILLION DEMOCRATS IN LOS ANGELES
COUNTY FROM LOS ANGELES COUNTY
DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS IN STRONG
SUPPORT OF A B 83 PLEASE VOTE.
YES, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND
LASTLY, WE GOTTA LINE 59, PLEASE
GO AHEAD. ABOUT THIS IS
STEPHANIE BROWN CITIZEN AND ALSO
AS A VOLUNTEER WITH THE
DISABILITY. CALIFORNIA STATE
STRONG AND WE STRONGLY URGE
PASSAGE OF THE SPILL AND THANK
YOU FOR INTRODUCING IT. THANK
YOU. MR CHAIR. WE HAVE A COUPLE
MORE QUEUE UP. WE'VE GOT TO LINE
10, PLEASE GO AHEAD. I AM SARAH
ROUTE FROM 18 55. WE DO NEED TO
LIMIT BIG BIG MONEY'S INFLUENCE
. PLEASE SUPPORT THIS BILL.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND WE'LL
GO TO LINE 25. PLEASE GO AHEAD.
GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU. THIS IS
MICHELLE SUTTER OF MONEY OUT
VOTERS IN WHERE THE CALIFORNIA
SPONSOR OF THIS BILL, AND WE
URGE YOU'RE EITHER THIS MORNING.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND WE'RE
GONNA LINE 49. PLEASE GO AHEAD.
HELLO THIS IS CYNTHIA HEART
CALLING FROM THE COVER CITY
DEMOCRATIC CLUB AND OUR CLUB
VOTED OVERWHELMINGLY IN SUPPORT
OF A B 83. WE URGE YOU TO PASS
IT OUT OF COMMITTEE. THANK YOU.
AND MR CHAIR. WE HAVE NO ONE
ELSE IN CUBA AT THIS TIME. THANK
YOU SO MUCH. WELL, NOW GO TO THE
PRIMARY WITNESSES AND
OPPOSITION. GOOD MORNING DOING
RIGHT? UH, MR CHAIR AND MEMBERS
BENGAL LEMBECK WITH THE
CALIFORNIA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE
AND RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION TO THE
BILL. WHAT WE'VE NOT BEEN ABLE
TO HOLD AND ASSESS THE IMPACT ON
ALL OF OUR NEARLY 15,000 MEMBERS
, UM OR THE MORE THAN 850,000
BUSINESSES REGISTERED TO OPERATE
IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. I
WOULD POINT OUT THAT THE BILL
SPONSORS N STUDY SHOWS THAT THE
PROPOSAL WOULD PROHIBIT 98% OF S
AND P 500 COMPANIES FROM
PARTICIPATING IN THE POLITICAL
PROCESS. THE BILL ALSO RAISES
CONSTITUTIONAL QUESTIONS IN OUR
MIND. I KNOW. ONE OF THE
WITNESSES MENTIONED THE PROPOSAL
IN SEATTLE, HOWEVER, THE
WASHINGTON STATE DEMOCRATIC
PARTY HAD PERKINS KUI, A
LONGTIME DEMOCRATIC LAW FIRM
DOING ANALYSIS, UH AND THE LAW
FIRM SAID THAT THE LEGISLATION
THERE WHICH IS VERY SIMILAR TO
THE LEGISLATION HERE WOULD FACE
CONSTITUTIONAL CHALLENGES. AH,
AND A CHALLENGE WOULD HAVE
STRONG LIKELIHOOD OF SUCCESS ON
THE MERITS. IT'S CLEAR THAT THIS
PROPOSAL IS SIMPLY MEANT TO HAVE
THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY.
UNILATERALLY DISARM IN TERMS OF
ITS PARTICIPATION IN THE
POLITICAL PROCESS. SOME OF THE
REQUIREMENTS ARE ALSO RATHER
PUNITIVE AND SEEM IMPOSSIBLE TO
IMPLEMENT, INCLUDING THE
REQUIREMENT THAT IF A BUSINESS
MAKES A CONTRIBUTION, THE CEO
THEMSELVES HAS TO SIGN A
STATEMENT OF CERTIFICATION THAT
PROMISES THAT THE BUSINESS DOES
NOT HAVE FOREIGN INVESTORS. THE
FINAL ISSUE I'LL RAISE IS WHAT I
CALL THE PAST THROUGH PROVISION
AND THIS ESSENTIALLY WITHOUT RE
QUOTING THE LANGUAGE AND THE
BILL, ESSENTIALLY IF ONE OF YOU
RECEIVED A CONTRIBUTION FROM ONE
OF YOUR COLLEAGUES FOR YOUR
REELECTION CAMPAIGN, OR FOR
ANOTHER CAMPAIGN THAT YOU'RE
RUNNING FOR, YOU WOULD ALSO HAVE
TO GET THE BUSINESS THAT
CONTRIBUTED TO YOUR COLLEAGUE.
THIS STATEMENT OF CERTIFICATION
FROM THE CEO THAT'S REQUIRED
UNDER THIS BILL. UM I HONESTLY
WHEN I READ THE BILL, I ASSUMED
IT WAS BEING SPONSORED BY AN
ASSOCIATION OF CAMPAIGN LAWYERS
AND TRADE. MEASURES. BECAUSE
THIS WOULD CREATE AN EXPLOSION
IN TERMS OF THE JOBS AND THOSE
INDUSTRIES AS THE ONLY WAY TO
COMPLY WITH THIS. UM AND FOR
THOSE REASONS WE ARE
RESPECTFULLY OPPOSED TO A B 83.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ARE THERE
ANY WITNESSES OR ANY PEOPLE IN
THE ROOM WHO WISH TO REGISTER
THEIR OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL?
NOT A SINGLE ONE. HAS ANYBODY ON
THE PHONE LINES, WHICH IS TO
REGISTER THEIR OPPOSITION TO
THIS BILL. SPEAKING OPPOSITION
PRESS ONE, THEN ZERO AT THIS
TIME. SCHOOL. OPEN UP LINE 54.
YES THIS IS MARK ZULULAND WITH
ALAMEDA COUNTY ELECTION
INTEGRITY TEAM I'VE BEEN
INVOLVED IN ELECTIONS. 2019 I'M
ACTUALLY IN SUPPORT BABY 83, SO
I WAS LEFT IN THE CUBE. SO I
JUST WANT TO STATE THAT MAYBE 83
SHOULD PASS AND IT'S GOOD FOR
CALIFORNIA'S. I UNDERSTAND THAT
SO MUCH IN JUST SPOKE. YEAH, I
APPRECIATE YOU. AND ONCE AGAIN
IF THERE ANYONE SPEAKING IN
OPPOSITION PRESS ONE, THEN ZERO
AT THIS TIME. MR CHAIRMAN, WE
HAVE NO ONE ELSE IN QUÊ. THANK
YOU, MR OPERATOR. NOW TURN IT TO
COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND THEN THE
COMMITTEE MEMBERS WHO WISH TO
SPEAK ON THIS BILL, MR PELLERIN
. THANK YOU. UM SO THANK YOU
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S FOR BRINGING
THIS BILL TO OUR COMMITTEE. I'M
JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION ABOUT
THAT STATEMENT OF CERTIFICATION
. I'M JUST WONDERING WHETHER
IT'S GOING TO BE A UNIFORM FORM
THAT EVERYONE USES OR HOW WHAT
KIND OF FORMS THAT CAN BE? YEAH
I IMAGINE THE STATEMENT OF
CERTIFICATION WAS JUST ALMOST IS
JUST THEM SAYING WE ARE NOT.
THAT'S HOW THEY ACCREDIT
THEMSELVES. NOT TO BE. A FOREIGN
INFLUENCE CORPORATION CAN BE A
SANITIZED FORM BY PVC. BUT I
ALSO TURNED OVER TO RON IF HE
HAS ANY COMMENTARY ABOUT HOW THE
FORM CAN BE STANDARDIZED AND
MADE ACCESSIBLE. HI THANK YOU.
THIS IS RON. FINE AGAIN. IT'S
CERTAINLY THE VPC COULD CREATE A
STANDARDIZED FORM. THAT'S WHAT
THE LOCAL ELECTIONS AGENCY DID
IN SEATTLE. UM BUT THE LAW
DOESN'T SPECIFY ANYTHING ABOUT
THAT FORM. BUT IT COULD BE
EXTREMELY SIMPLE. IT COULD HAVE
THE STATEMENT PRE MADE AND JUST
FILL IN NAME DATE AND SIGN.
YEAH. WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR
LOWE. MR LAKIN. YOU WISH TO
SPEAK ON THIS BILL. I DO. UM.
I'M OBVIOUSLY NOT GOING TO BE
ABLE TO SUPPORT THIS BILL,
BECAUSE I I'M NOT A LAWYER, BUT
I BELIEVE IT HAS A QUESTIONABLE
COMPLIANCE WITH THE FIRST
AMENDMENT. MOST OF AMERICA'S
LARGEST PUBLICLY TRADED
COMPANIES EXCEED THIS 5%
CRITERIA THRESHOLD AND WE WOULD
BE PROHIBITED FROM POLITICAL
SPEECH. AND SO THIS BILL.
UNFORTUNATELY I BELIEVE IT HAS A
LITTLE TENOR OF PAYBACK. FOR THE
UBER LEFT INVOLVEMENT IN PROP
22, WHICH TRIED TO FIX A B FIVE.
AND WOULD SERVE AN UNFORTUNATE
VETO OF THE PEOPLE'S EXPRESS
VOICE, SO I WILL BE OPPOSING. WE
HAVE A MOTION BY MR LOESER, A
SECOND. ONE SECOND MS PELLERIN.
MR LI. LIKE CLOSE? YES. THANK
YOU. JUST TO ADDRESS THE POINT
THAT THE OPPOSITION RAISED ABOUT
IN HIS GOOD POINT IS THAT
SEATTLE SINCE 2019 WHEN THEY
PASSED THIS THE HOME OF AMAZON,
OF COURSE, MANY PEOPLE SAID THIS
WAS UNCONSTITUTIONAL IT WOULD
GET SUED. IT WAS 2019 TO THIS
DAY THERE STILL HAS NOT BEEN A
LAWSUIT BECAUSE THEY COULD NOT
WIN THAT LAWSUIT. THAT'S THE
FACT OF THE MATTER IS THEY HAVE
RUN SEVERAL ELECTIONS AND THE
SKY IS NOT FALLING DOWN IN THE
CAPITAL OF AMAZON IN SEATTLE,
AND WE CAN DO THE SAME THING IN
AMERICA RIGHT NOW. THE SUPREME
COURT HOLDS US UP SAYING, OF
COURSE, ESPECIALLY THAT FREE
SPEECH IS FOR ASSOCIATION OF
CITIZENS. IF YOU'RE A COMPANY
RIGHT NOW, THAT HAS 51%
OWNERSHIP. OR 50.1% OWNERSHIP BY
FOREIGN INTERESTS. YOU ARE A
FOREIGN ENTITY AND YOU'RE BARRED
FROM SPENDING ELECTIONS THERE IS
STRONG PRESENT FOR THAT AMERICAN
ELECTIONS ARE FOR AMERICANS, AND
THAT'S HOW WE SHOULD PROTECT OUR
DEMOCRATIC SELF GOVERNMENT. AND
WHEN WE HAVE THIS BACK END LOOP
HOLE OF SELF OF FOREIGN MIND
THAT SEEPS IN EITHER BE 1% AS
ONE ENTITY, WHICH AGAIN IS
MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF SHARES
OR 5% AS A GROUP. IT IS TRUE. A
LOT OF CORPORATIONS. HOW ARE NOW
OWNED VERY, VERY MUCH SO BY
INTERNATIONAL HOLDERS, AND
THAT'S LIKE CASE OF A GLOBALIZED
ECONOMY AND MORE AND MORE FOLKS
SEEKING TO STOCK THEIR MONEY
HERE IN AMERICA, WHETHER IT BE
REAL ESTATE OR IN CORPORATIONS,
AND THAT GOES FROM SOME OF OUR
UM MORE TYPICAL ADVERSARIES LIKE
RUSSIAN OLIGARCHS OR EVEN
MULTINATIONAL CORPORATIONS BASED
IN EUROPE, OR EVEN IN ASIA. IT
IS SADLY THE CASE AND I THINK WE
SHOULD BE GUARDED AGAINST THAT.
UM AND ALSO JUST TO NOTE FOR THE
OPPOSITION. IS THAT AS YOU KNOW,
KYLE CHAMBER INFAMOUSLY DOES
CALL ME A JOB CREATOR. SO I AM
HAPPY TO SEE THIS JOB. THIS BILL
CREATES A LOT OF NEW JOBS,
ELECTION INTEGRITY, SO I ASKED
HER HUMBLY YOUR I VOTE. THANK
YOU, MR LEE. UM, I THINK WHAT
YOU'VE HEARD BY SOME PEOPLE UP
HERE QUESTIONS ABOUT JUST
TIGHTENING IT UP, MAKING SURE
THAT ALL THE FACTORS MAKE SENSE
. I KNOW, SCALING SOMETHING UP
FROM SEATTLE TO LIKE THE STATE
OF CALIFORNIA COULD COME WITH
SOME UNIQUE CHALLENGES AND
COMPLICATIONS. UM, THAT BEING
SAID. THIS WAS NOT THE COMMITTEE
YOU GOT HELD LAST TIME BRINGING
IT. I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S GOING
TO BE THE COMMITTEE YOU GET HELD
IN BRINGING IT THIS YEAR. UM IT
HAS A DO PASS RECORD FROM ME.
MADAM SECRETARY, CAN WE CALL THE
ROLL? THE MOTION IS DO PASS AND
BE RE REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE
ON APPROPRIATIONS. BRIAN BRIAN.
I LACKEY, KINO BENNETT. A SALEY
LI I LO LO I PELLERIN I BLANCA
RUBIO BLANCA RUBIO, NOT VOTING.
SURE. YEAH, WE'LL PUT THAT ON
CALL. MS PELLER AND YOU ARE UP.
CAME INTO COMMITTEE SWINGING. MM
HMM. OKAY? WOULD YOU LIKE TO
START WITH A B 3 98? I WOULD
LOVE TO. GOOD MORNING. GOOD
MORNING. MORNING, RIGHT? WE ARE
SO THANK YOU. CHAIR AND MEMBERS
. I'LL START BY ACCEPTING THE
COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS TO HB 398.
AND THE ELECTIONS CODE.
CURRENTLY STATES THAT AN
ELECTIONS OFFICIAL CAN ISSUE
EVERY PLACEMENT BALLOT TO ANY
VOTER WHO PROVIDES A STATEMENT
UNDER PENALTY OF PERJURY THAT
THEY'VE EITHER FAILED TO RECEIVE
THE BALLOT OR LOSS IT OR DESTROY
THAT ORIGINAL BALLOT. AND THE
SIGNATURE REQUIREMENT DELAYS THE
PROCESS OF VOTERS AS ELECTIONS
OFFICIALS ARE BARRED FROM
ISSUING A REPLACEMENT BALLOT
UNTIL THEY'VE RECEIVED THAT
STATEMENT UNDER PENALTY OF
PERJURY, EVEN IF THE VOTER HAS
ALREADY CONTACTED THE ELECTIONS
OFFICIAL TO REQUEST THAT BALLOT.
SO THIS REQUIREMENT IS, UM.
BASICALLY SAYING THAT WE DO NOT
NEED THAT WET SIGNATURE AND THAT
A REPLACEMENT BALLOT CAN BE, UH,
PROVIDED TO THE VOTER BY
WHATEVER MEANS THAT THE COUNTY
ELECTIONS OFFICIALS GOING TO BE
USING TELEPHONE OR ONLINE
REQUESTS, AND 83 98 IS SPONSORED
BY THE CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF
CLERKS AND ELECTION OFFICIALS
AND HAS THE SUPPORT FROM
DISABILITY RIGHTS AND
ENVIRONMENTAL ADVOCATES. AND
WITH ME TO TESTIFY AND SUPPORT
TODAY IS TRICIA WEBER, THAT
SANTA CRUZ COUNTY CLERK AND CO
CHAIR OF THE ELECTIONS
LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE OF THE
CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF CLERKS
AND ELECTION OFFICIALS. SECOND.
MS WEATHER WISEMAN. THAT MEANS
I'M DONE. NO OH, OKAY. NO
THEY'RE JUST THEY'RE JUST
SUPPORTING ME AS A FRESHMAN
MEMBER OF WHAT IT MEANS IS
THEY'VE TAKEN A MINUTE OF YOUR
TIME. OKAY THEN I WILL GO REALLY
QUICKLY. GOOD MORNING. CAROL
BRIAN AND MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE. MY NAME IS TRICIA
WEBER. I AM THE SENATE CRUZ
COUNTY CLERK, REGISTRAR OF
VOTERS. AND I'M HERE TODAY ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
ASSOCIATION OF CLARK AND
ELECTION OFFICIALS WERE PROUD TO
SUPPORT AND SPONSOR
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S TOLERANCE. UM A
B 3 98 REGARDING REPLACEMENT OF
THE VOTE BY MAIL BALLOTS. AN
UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE THAT
OCCURRED LAST YEAR DURING THE
CLEAN UP TO THE VOTE BY MAIL
SECTION WAS THE REMOVAL OF THE
ABILITY FOR VOTERS. TO REQUEST A
VOTE BY MAIL BALLOT REQUIRES
REPLACEMENT EITHER BY PHONE OR
ONLINE. INSTEAD IT REQUIRES A
VOTER TO SEND A SIGNED REQUEST
TO THE ELECTION OFFICIAL. THIS
IS FRUSTRATING FOR BOTH VOTERS
AND THE ELECTION OFFICIALS.
ELECTION OFFICIALS HAVE THE
VOTER ON THE PHONE THEY'VE
IDENTIFIED WHO THEY ARE. THEY'VE
IDENTIFIED THAT THEY HAVE NOT
RECEIVED THEIR VOTE BY MAIL
BALLOT OR THEY NEED A
REPLACEMENT BECAUSE THEY MADE AN
AIR ON IT. BUT THEN WE HAVE TO
SAY I'M SORRY. I CAN'T HELP YOU
UNTIL YOU SEND ME A NOTICE THAT
SAYS XML, YOU KNOW, SAYS THIS
LANGUAGE AND YOU SIGN IT. UM
SENDING THAT SIGN DOCUMENT IS
ESPECIALLY DIFFICULT FOR OUR
MILITARY AND OVERSEAS VOTERS WHO
WERE CORRESPONDING WITH EITHER
ON THE PHONE OR THROUGH AN EMAIL
MAIL DOES TAKE LONGER TO GET TO
THE STATES FROM OVERSEAS. AND IF
WE HAVE TO SEND THAT BACK OUT BY
MAIL, THERE'S AN A DELAY IN A
POSSIBILITY THAT THAT VOTER WILL
NOT RECEIVE THEIR BALLOT ON THE
TYPE OF FASHION. EXCUSE ME.
ASSEMBLY BILL 3 98 CLEARS THE
WAY FOR ELECTION OFFICIALS TO
MORE EFFICIENTLY HELP VOTERS. IT
ALLOWS VOTERS TO HAVE A BETTER
VOTING EXPERIENCE, AND IT ALLOWS
THE MILITARY AND OVERSEAS VOTERS
TO HAVE THE SAME ACCESS AS THEIR
DOMESTIC COUNTERPARTS. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME, AND I
ASKED FOR YOUR I VOTE. THANK
YOU. ARE THERE ANY WITNESSES IN
THE ROOM WHO WOULD LIKE TO
REGISTER THEIR SUPPORT? THIS
BILL. NAME ORGANIZATION POSITION
ON THE BILL. ERIC HARRIS,
DISABILITY RIGHTS, CALIFORNIA
AND STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
MARKETS MASON, CALIFORNIA
ENVIRONMENTAL VOTERS AND SUPPORT
. BETWEEN IS GOOD AROSE. LEÓN
VOTERS IN CALIFORNIA WERE IN
VARIOUS STRONG SUPPORT OF THE
BILL. WE'VE DISCUSSED CERTAIN
AMENDMENTS WITH ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
PELLERIN AND APPRECIATE HER
WORKING WITH US ON THIS JUST TO
SPELL OUT THE VERIFICATION
PROCEDURES THAT ARE ALREADY USED
IN PRACTICE. THANK YOU, MR.
THANK YOU. WITH THAT WE'LL TURN
IT OVER TO THE PHONE LINES. IS
THERE ANYBODY ON THE PHONE LINES
WOULD LIKE TO REGISTER THEIR
SUPPORT FOR THE BILL. REGISTER
SUPPORT FOR THIS BILL, PLEASE
PRESS ONE, THEN ZERO ON YOUR
TELEPHONE KEYPAD AT THIS TIME.
MR. CHAIR. WE HAVE NO ONE
QUEUING UP FOR SUPPORT. THANK
YOU SO MUCH. ARE THERE ANY
PRIMARY WITNESSES AND
OPPOSITION? SEEING AND HEARING
NONE. ARE THERE ANY WITNESSES IN
THE ROOM AND OPPOSITION WHO
WOULD LIKE TO REGISTER THEIR
NAME ORGANIZATION POSITION ON
THE BILL? SEEING NONE. OPERATOR.
IS THERE ANYBODY ON THE PHONE
LINES? WHO WOULD LIKE TO
REGISTER OPPOSITION. TO SPEAK IN
OPPOSITION OF THIS BILL. PRESS
ONE, THEN ZERO ON YOUR TELEPHONE
KEYPAD. WELL FIRST GO TO LINE 13
GO AHEAD. MY NAME IS JEANETTE
FELT SACRAMENTO COUNTY AND I
OPPOSE THIS BILL. THANK YOU.
WE'LL GO NEXT TO LINE 44 GO
AHEAD, PLEASE. CLAIM AS THE
BERRY BLASTER COUNTY WITH
ELECTION INTEGRITY PROJECT,
CALIFORNIA IN OPPOSITION TO THIS
BILL, LINE 68. MY NAME IS JACKIE
CODA AND I'M WITH THE ELECTION
INTEGRITY TEAM OF ALAMEDA COUNTY
AND I AM A STRONG OPPOSITION OF
THIS BILL. LINE 54. YES MY NAME
IS MARK XYLEM. I AM WITH THE
ELECTION INTEGRITY TEAM OF
ALAMEDA COUNTY, CALIFORNIA HAD
BEEN INVOLVED IN ELECTIONS FOR A
LONG, LONG TIME, AND I'M IN
STRONG OPPOSITION OF THIS BILL.
LINE 64. MY NAME IS ALICE COWL,
UM FROM SAN JOSE, CALIFORNIA. I
WOULD SAY NO FOR THIS BILL. LINE
12. MY NAME IS APRIL BEAN,
SACRAMENTO COUNTY. I'M IN
OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL. MR
CHAIR. WE HAVE NO ONE ELSE
QUEUED UP AT THIS TIME. THANK
YOU SO MUCH. WE WILL NOW TURN IT
TO COMMITTEE MEMBERS. ARE THERE
ANY MEMBERS WHO WISH TO SPEAK ON
THIS BILL? MR LACKEY, YOU ARE
RECOGNIZED. YEAH MY, IT'S MORE A
QUESTION. I ASSUME YOU'RE HAVE
YOU ACCEPTED THE COMMITTEE'S
AMENDMENTS. AND THAT WOULD
INCLUDE SPECIFICALLY THE
VERIFICATION OF THE VOTER. YES.
WHAT THE INCLUDED THEM TO STATE
, THEIR NAME, RESIDENTS AND DATE
OF BIRTH. YES, CORRECT. THANK
YOU. I NEED TO KNOW. OH, I'M
SORRY. ONE LAST QUESTION. I'M A
WHERE IS THE MOTIVATION BY BY
REMOVING THE PERJURY STATEMENT?
UNDER PENALTY OF PERJURY.
REMOVING BECAUSE WELL, THE
CURRENT LAW REQUIRES IT TO BE A
SIGN. STATEMENT SO THESE ARE
GOING TO BE RECEIVED THE ONLINE
REQUESTS THROUGH TELEPHONE
REQUESTS, AND SO THERE'S REALLY
NO NEED. ONCE YOU VERIFY WHO THE
VOTER IS, AND THEN YOU'LL
PROVIDE THEM WITH THAT
REPLACEMENT BALLOT. AND WHEN
THEY GET THAT REPLACEMENT BALLOT
THAT THAT IDENTIFICATION
ENVELOPE IS WHAT THEY WILL SIGN
UNDER PENALTY OF PERJURY THAT
THEY ARE WHO THEY SAY THEY ARE,
AND THAT THEY HAVE NOT
PREVIOUSLY VOTED IN THIS
ELECTION. THANK YOU. MS PELLER
AND YOU MAKE CLOTHES. SO THANK
YOU ALL SO MUCH. I THINK THIS IS
AN IMPORTANT BILL TO MAKE SURE
THAT PEOPLE CONTINUE TO HAVE
ACCESS TO OUR ELECTION
PROCEDURES THAT ARE VOTING AND
THE OTHER THING I THINK IT DOES.
IT'S REALLY COOL. IS THAT WHERE
WE'RE TAKING OUT SECOND VOTE BY
MAIL REQUEST AND USING THE WORD
REPLACEMENT BECAUSE THAT IS
INDEED WHAT IT IS BECAUSE WE'RE
NOT SENDING OUT MULTIPLE BALLOTS
FOR PEOPLE SO THIS WOULD VOID
THAT FIRST BALLOT THEY RECEIVED
AND GIVE THEM THAT SECOND REPLAY
OR REPLACEMENT BALLOT. SO I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR I
VOTE. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR
BRINGING THIS FORWARD. I WANT TO
THANK YOU FOR WORKING WITH THE
COMMITTEE AND ACCEPTING OUR
PROPOSED AMENDMENTS BY REMOVING
UNNECESSARY BARRIERS TO
REPLACEMENT BALLOT REQUEST. THIS
BILL ALLOWS ELECTION OFFICIALS
TO FULFILL THOSE REQUESTS MORE
QUICKLY. YOU'VE GOTTEN RID OF
REDUNDANCY. YOU'VE MADE IT MORE
EFFICIENT. AH I AM RECOMMENDING
SUPPORT. AND WHAT IS MOST
EXCITING IS THAT BECAUSE THIS
BILL IS KEEN ON FISCAL, IT'S
GOING TO GO STRAIGHT TO THE
FLOOR IF IT LEAVES THIS
COMMITTEE WITH THAT, MADAM
SECRETARY, CAN WE OPEN THE ROLE?
THE MOTION IS DUE PASS AS
AMENDED. BRIAN BRIAN, I LACKEY
KI¾M ABSTAIN. BENNETT. DAILY LI
I LO, I LO I PELLERIN HIGH.
PELLERIN I BLANCA RUBIO. BLANCA
RUBIO? AYE. HMM. 5 TO 0. THAT
BILL IS OUT. THANK YOU. IS NEXT
UP A B 5 45 FOR YOU? YES. MR
HARRIS. GOOD TO SEE YOU BROTHER,
TOO. YOU MAY BEGIN WHEN YOU'RE
READY. SO CURRENT LAW SETS
MINIMUM STANDARDS FOR THE
ACCESSIBILITY OF VOTING
LOCATIONS FOR VOTERS WITH
DISABILITIES AND ACCOMMODATIONS
CAN INCLUDE CURBSIDE VOTING AND
ACCESSIBILITY, AIDS SUCH AS
MAGNIFYING GLASSES AND SIGNATURE
CARDS TO HELP VOTERS SIGN THEIR
BALLOT ENVELOPES WHERE REQUIRED
, AND WHILE THESE ACCOMMODATIONS
EXISTS, THERE IS A LACK OF
STANDARDIZATION ACROSS THE STATE
OF CALIFORNIA. FOR INSTANCE, IN
MANY COUNTIES, SIGNAGE PROVIDING
INFORMATION ABOUT CURBSIDE
VOTING IS NOT PROMINENTLY
DISPLAYED, AND VOTERS WITH
DISABILITIES ARE OFTEN UNSURE ON
HOW TO ATTRACT THE ATTENTION OF
ELECTION WORKERS TO HAVE A
BALLOT DELIVERED TO THE CURB.
ADDITIONALLY ACCESSIBILITY AIDS
ARE OFTEN FORGOTTEN IN THE BOXES
BEHIND THE VOTER CHECK IN
STATION RATHER THAN BEING EASILY
ACCESSIBLE TO VOTERS COMING IN
TO VOTE. SO A B 545 MAKES VOTING
MORE ACCESSIBLE TO VOTERS WITH
DISABILITIES BY REQUIRING
CURBSIDE VOTING AT ALL VOTING
LOCATIONS. THIS WAS DONE IN 2020
TO MITIGATE THE EFFECTS OF COVID
19 AND PROVE THAT IT IS
FEASIBLE. A B 545 REQUIRES THE
SIGNAGE RELATED TO ACCESSIBLE
VOTING TO BE PROMINENTLY
DISPLAYED AND REQUIRES THAT
VOTING LOCATIONS ESTABLISHED A
METHOD FOR A VOTER WITH A
DISABILITY TO CONTACT AN
ELECTION WORKER IN ORDER TO VOTE
BY CURBSIDE AND MAYBE 545,
ADDITIONALLY REMOVES THE
OUTDATED REQUIREMENT. THE VOTERS
WITH DISABILITIES MUST SWEAR
UNDER OATH THAT THEY ARE UNABLE
TO MARK A BALLOT. THEY CAN
SIMPLY JUST SAY, I NEED
ASSISTANCE WITH MARKING MY
BALLOT AND I CHOOSE THIS PERSON
TO ASSIST ME. 85 45 IS SPONSORED
BY DISABILITY RIGHTS, CALIFORNIA
AND SUPPORTED BY THE CALIFORNIA
ASSOCIATION OF CLERKS AND
ELECTIONS, OFFICIALS, THE LEAGUE
OF WOMEN VOTERS AND
ENVIRONMENTAL AND DISABILITY
ADVOCATES AND WITH ME TO TESTIFY
AND SUPPORT TODAY IS ERIC
HARRIS, REPRESENTING DISABILITY
RIGHTS, CALIFORNIA AND BY PHONE
. I BELIEVE WE HAVE DAN OCON
FUSS FROM THE CALIFORNIA
FOUNDATION FOR INDEPENDENT
LIVING CENTERS. I RESPECTFULLY,
UM, WELL DONE. GO AHEAD. IT'S
YOUR TURN. MR HARRIS. GOOD
MORNING CHAIR AND MEMBERS. MY
NAME IS ERIC HARRIS, AND I'M THE
DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC POLICY AT
DISABILITY RIGHTS, CALIFORNIA WE
ARE PROUD SPONSORS OF A B 5 45,
A BILL THAT LOOKS TO MAKE
IMPACTFUL AND LOW COST
IMPROVEMENTS TO IN PERSON
ACCESSIBLE VOTING FOR VOTERS
WITH DISABILITIES. CURBSIDE
VOTING HANDHELD MAGNIFIER AND
SIGNATURE GUIDES ARE AVAILABLE
AT MANY VOTING LOCATION
STATEWIDE, BUT THERE ARE
CURRENTLY MINIMAL OR NO
REQUIREMENTS IN THE ELECTIONS
CODE. CURBSIDE VOTING ALLOWS
VOTERS TO VOTE IN THEIR CAR IN
PERSON AT VOTING LOCATIONS.
VOTERS PARKING DESIGNATED SPOTS
AND ELECTION WORKERS, CHECK THEM
IN AND PROVIDE THEM WITH A
BALLOT. CURRENTLY CURBSIDE
VOTING AVAILABILITY IS ONLY
AVAILABLE IN CERTAIN COUNTIES
AND HAS LIMITED SIGNAGE AND
STAFF AVAILABILITY. MAYBE 5 45
WOULD MAKE THAT PROCESS
AVAILABLE FOR VOTERS WHO CHOOSE
TO USE IT AT IN PERSON VOTING
LOCATIONS AND MAKE IT UNIFORM
THROUGHOUT THE STATE. EVEN IF
VOTING LOCATIONS ARE ACCESSIBLE
, CURBSIDE VOTING IS STILL
HELPFUL FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE
DIFFICULTY GETTING OUT OF THEIR
CARS. THIS COULD INCLUDE PEOPLE
WHO USE SUPPLEMENTAL OXYGEN. THE
RCS POLL MONITORING. CAN'T
CONSISTENTLY FINDS THAT HANDHELD
MAGNIFIER ZAND SIGNATURE GUIDES
ARE ALSO INCONSISTENTLY
AVAILABLE AT VOTING LOCATIONS.
IN MANY CIRCUMSTANCES, THESE
DEVICES ARE FORGOTTEN ABOUT AND
LEFT IN STORAGE. A B 5 45 WOULD
MAKE A CLEAR REQUIREMENT THAT
THESE VOTING SUPPLIES BE AT ALL
VOTING LOCATIONS AND DISPLAYED
AT VOTER CHECKING TABLES.
FINALLY THIS BILL ALSO ALLOWS
FOR VOTERS WITH DISABILITIES TO
GET ASSISTANCE WITH MARKING
THEIR BALLOT WITHOUT SWEARING AN
OATH TO AN ELECTION VOTER THAT
THEY ARE UNABLE TO COMPLETE THE
BALLOT. WE BELIEVE THAT THIS IS
AN OVERLY BURDENSOME REQUIREMENT
FOR DISABLED VOTERS AND SHOULD
BE REMOVED FOR THESE REASONS.
DRC IS A PROUD SPONSOR OF A B 5
45 AND URGED HER I VOTE TODAY.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR HARRIS
. MR OKUN FUSS ARE YOU ON THE
PHONE LINE? YES, I AM. CAN YOU
HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN. GREAT UH,
GOOD MORNING, MR CHAIR AND
MEMBERS OF THIS COMMITTEE. MY
NAME IS DAN O CONFESSED AND I'M,
THE PUBLIC POLICY MANAGER FOR
THE CALIFORNIA FOUNDATION FOR
INDEPENDENT LIVING CENTERS. AND
I'M HERE TO EXPRESS OUR SUPPORT
FOR A B 545. CAME INTO IMPROVE
ACCESSIBILITY FOR VOTERS WITH
DISABILITIES. C F I L C STATE BY
DISABILITY RIGHTS ORGANIZATION
THAT SERVES AS THE MEMBERSHIP OF
ASSOCIATION FOR CALIFORNIA'S
INDEPENDENT LIVING CENTERS.
WHICH PROVIDE DIRECT SERVICES
AND SUPPORTS FOR THOUSANDS OF
INDIVIDUALS, DISABILITIES. UM
CFLCC PARTNERS WITH, UH STABLED,
UM. WITH THE DRC. DISABLED UM
SORRY. GOT A LITTLE COLD HERE.
WE PARTNERED WITH THE R C IN
OTHER ORGANIZATIONS IN A PROGRAM
TO SELL DISABLED LOW CALIFORNIA
. UM AND WE SEEK TO IMPROVE
VOTER ACCESS ACROSS THE STATE.
EXISTING LAW, UM REQUIRES OR
GUARANTEES SEVERAL MEANS FOR
BILLIONS OF DISABILITIES
PARTICIPATE IN THEIR CIVIC DUTY
AND THAT INCLUDED THE VOTE BY
MAIL REMOTE ACCESSIBLE BY NOW,
CURBSIDE VOTING AS YOU MENTIONED
AND ACCEPTABILITY MACHINES. UM
85 45 REQUIRE THAT ALL PERSONS
ALREADY LOCATIONS OFFER CURBSIDE
VOTING ESTABLISHED UNIFORM
REQUIREMENTS FOR CURBSIDE VOTING
STATEWIDE AND CREATE CLEAR
REQUIREMENTS THAT WILL IMPROVE
THE SUPPLIES, SERVICES AND
PRACTICES AT VOTING LOCATIONS,
IMPACTING GLARES DISABILITIES.
FOR THE ABOVE REASONS. I STATED
RESPECT THE URGE YOUR I VOTE ON
85 45. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WELL
NOW TWO MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE.
IF YOU ARE HERE IN THE HEARING
ROOM, AND YOU'D LIKE TO REGISTER
YOUR SUPPORT FOR THIS BILL.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME,
ORGANIZATION AND POSITION ON THE
BILL. JIMMY FROM GIN WITH
RESPECTABILITY. WE ARE A NON
PARTISAN DISABILITY CIVIL RIGHTS
ORGANIZATION AND WE'RE IN STRONG
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. TRICIA WEBER
ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
ASSOCIATION OF CLERK AND
ELECTION OFFICIALS, AND WE'RE IN
STRONG SUPPORT. FOR REST. LEAGUE
OF WOMEN VOTERS IN CALIFORNIA
AND VERY STRONG SUPPORT. THANK
YOU. MARK EAST CALIFORNIA
ENVIRONMENTAL VOTERS WERE IN
SUPPORT. THANKS. WE WILL NOW GO
TO THE PHONE LINES OPERATOR IS
ANYBODY ON THE PHONE LINES WOULD
LIKE TO REGISTER THEIR SUPPORT
FOR THIS BILL. SPEAKING TO SPEAK
IN SUPPORT, PRESS ONE, THEN
ZERO. AT THIS TIME, WE'LL GO TO
LINE 74. GO AHEAD. LINE SEVEN
NAME IS MINDY PETS. LOOK CAN YOU
OKAY? I'M WITH ALAMEDA. WHAT'S
INTEGRITY AND I'M ACTUALLY
WANTED TO REGISTER. NO VOTE TO A
BE TOO LONG EIGHT TO CALL
EARLIER. BUT I WANTED TO
REGISTER THE VOTE ON A B T 98.
THANK YOU. LINE 51. YES MY NAME
IS KAREN POWERS. I'M WITH
ELECTION INTEGRITY PROJECT
CALIFORNIA FROM SOLANO COUNTY IN
SUPPORT OF A B PASSPORT. FIVE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HMM. LINE
73. GOOD MORNING. THIS IS THE
ANARCHY TOMORROW WITH ASIAN
AMERICANS ADVANCING JUSTICE
ASIAN LAW CAUCUS AND WE ARE IN
STRONG SUPPORT OF
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S PELLERIN STILL
LINE 76. YES GOOD MORNING. THIS
IS LISA ROSS. WITH MOVIE AND SEE
CMC VOLUNTEERING CAMPAIGN
FINANCE REFORM ADVOCATES AND
ALSO IN SUPPORT OF THIS BILL AND
ENCOURAGES ME PASSED OUT OF
COMMITTEE. AND WITH APPRECIATION
FOR YOUR UNANIMOUS SUPPORT
FINANCIAL 9 70. YES I MISSED THE
CUE FOR I'M GOING TO VOTE NO ON
A B 3 98. THANK YOU. WE DO HAVE
ONE MORE LINE AND Q ONE MOMENT
WHILE WE PROVIDE THEIR LINE
NUMBER. LINE 71. YES THIS IS
HELEN TELLING US I AM IN
CALIFORNIA. AND I'M VOTING IN
SUPPORT OF A B A THREE. THANK
YOU SO MUCH OUT OF THE
COMMITTEE. MR CHAIR. WE HAVE NO
OTHER LINES IN Q AT THIS TIME.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. DO WE HAVE
ANY PRIMARY WITNESSES AND
OPPOSITION IN THE ROOM? I DON'T
SEE ANY REGISTERED. I DON'T SEE
ANY IN THE ROOM. ARE THERE ANY
PEOPLE IN THE HEARING ROOM WHO
WOULD LIKE TO REGISTER THEIR
OPPOSITION NAME? ORGANIZATION
POSITION ON THE BILL. MY NAME IS
CALLING BRITAIN. I'M WITH THE
ELECTION INTEGRITY PROJECT
CALIFORNIA I JUST WANTED TO
REGISTER OUR SOLE OPPOSITION TO
THIS BILL. THE ONE POINT THAT WE
HAVE IS THE ELIMINATION OF THE
ADMINISTRATION OF THE OATH. UH
WE THINK THAT THAT IS ACTUALLY A
PROTECTION FOR THE DISABLED
VOTER, AND WE SHOULD KEEP THAT
IN BECAUSE ANY VOTER WHO IS
FORCED TO ACCEPT UNWANTED HELP
FROM AN ACCOMPANIED PERSON WILL
HAVE THE PROTECTION OF THE
ELECTION OFFICIALS THERE TO VOTE
INDEPENDENTLY WITHOUT DURESS BY
SIMPLY SIMPLY MEASURING THAT, SO
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. LIZ WAGUIH
IN OPPOSITION TO THE BILL. THANK
YOU. LET'S HEAD TO THE PHONE
LINES. EVERYBODY ON THE PHONE
LINES WHO LIKE TO REGISTER THEIR
OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL. AND TO
SPEAK IN OPPOSITION. PRESS ONE,
THEN ZERO AT THIS TIME WILL
FIRST GO TO LINE 68 GO AHEAD. MY
NAME IS JACKIE KOTA ELECTION
INTEGRITY TEAM. ALAMEDA COUNTY.
THE ONLY OPPOSITION WE HAVE FOR
THIS BILL IS THAT IT DOESN'T
MANDATE THAT IS ONLY PEOPLE WITH
DISABILITIES. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
LINE 13. HI MY NAME IS JEANETTE
FELT SACRAMENTO COUNTY. I'M WITH
ELECTION INTEGRITY PROJECT OF
CALIFORNIA AND WE OPPOSE THIS
BILL. LINE 12. HELLO MY NAME IS
APRIL. DEAN I'M WITH ELECTION
INTEGRITY PROJECT CALIFORNIA,
SACRAMENTO COUNTY. AND WE OPPOSE
THIS, BILL. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. LINE 70. OH, IS THAT ME?
OKAY. YES I OPPOSED THIS BILL. A
B AH! 5 45. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
SO MUCH. MM HMM. 54. YES HI,
MARK XYLEM AGAIN WITH ALAMEDA
COUNTY ELECTION INTEGRITY TEAM
AND I READ THIS BILL AND I UM IN
OPPOSITION OF A B FIVE. 45.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. MR
CHAIR. THERE ARE NO FURTHER
LINES IN QUÊ. BEAUTIFUL WILL NOW
TURN OVER TO THE COMMITTEE AND
MANY MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE.
WHO HAVE QUESTIONS. COMMENTS
WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS
BILL. YEAH I JUST HAVE A
QUESTION, AND IT'S MORE FOR THE
WITNESS. IS IT CONSIDERED
INSULTING? BECAUSE I REALLY AM
THE SUPPORT OF INCREASED ACCESS
, BUT I HAVE SOME CONCERN OVER
THE PRIVACY BEING COMPROMISED IN
THE NAME OF CONVENIENCE. AND SO
, UM, I'M JUST WORRIED THAT, UH
ELIMINATING THAT ONE ASPECT.
THAT THIS BILL PROPOSES MIGHT BE
DOING THAT VERY THING. IS THERE
A REASON WHY YOU DON'T BELIEVE
THAT? THAT'S BEING COMPROMISED.
THE PRIVACY IS BEING COMPROMISED
BY THAT REMOVAL. SO PEOPLE WITH
DISABILITIES A VARIETY OF
DISABILITIES HAVE TO DISCLOSE
ALL THE TIME THAT WE HAVE
DISABILITIES FOR SERVICES AND
SUPPORTS THAT WE NEED. UM AND
THERE ARE CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES
WHERE, UM, SWEARING UNDER OATH
TO DO SO WOULD BE OVERLY
BURDENSOME. UM, SO I JUST IN
THIS CIRCUMSTANCE. WE DON'T
BELIEVE THAT THIS WOULD BE, UH
VIOLATING PEOPLE WITH
DISABILITIES RIGHTS WHEN IT
COMES TO VOTING. I APPRECIATE
THAT. THANK YOU. LET'S JUST SAY
THANK YOU. UM I GUESS MY
QUESTION FOR THE AUTHOR IS, UM,
YOU KNOW, TRADITIONALLY, THE
RIGHT TO VOTE HAS ALWAYS BEEN
SECRET OR VOTING SECRET, AND
THAT'S TOO SO PEOPLE CAN MAKE A
DECISION FREE OF INFLUENCE. SO
BY TAKING AWAY SOME REQUIREMENT
TO AT LEAST. CONFIRMED FROM THE
VOTER THAT THEY DO WANT
ASSISTANCE. HOW DO WE ENSURE
THAT PEOPLE AREN'T BEING TAKEN
ADVANTAGE OF OR BEING PRESSURED
TO VOTE? WELL WHEN VOTERS COME
IN TO VOTE, THEY KNOW WHAT THEIR
ABILITIES ARE, AND THEY WILL
JUST SIMPLY SAY I NEED
ASSISTANCE WITH MARKING MY
BALLOT OR READING IT TO ME OR
WHATEVER THEY DO NEED. SO IF THE
VOTERS SPECIFICALLY REQUESTED IS
THAT I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW. I
DON'T HAVE TO SAY I NEED HELP.
THEY WANT THE ELECTIONS OFFICIAL
. OR THEY CAN GO TO THE VOTING
BOOTH WITH THE PERSON OF THEIR
CHOICE TO ASSIST THEM. UM I
DON'T KNOW IF YOU'D BE WILLING
TO, YOU KNOW, WORK ON OR
ANYTHING. BUT IF THERE'S SOME
REQUIREMENT THAT THE VOTER HAS
TO ASK LIKE BECAUSE WHAT IF THEY
JUST SHOW UP AND THERE'S SOMEONE
WITH THEM AND THEY'RE DOING
EVERYTHING FOR THEM? I DON'T
KNOW THAT THE POLLING WORKERS
ARE GOING TO GO OUT OF THEIR WAY
TO, YOU KNOW, INTERVIEW THEM OR
MAKE SURE BUT I UNDERSTAND YOU
KNOW, MAYBE NOT A FORMAL OATH,
BUT AT LEAST SOME INDICIA FROM
THE VOTER THAT THEY ARE
REQUESTING ASSISTANCE, SO WE
KNOW IT'S VOLUNTARY. THAT'S MY
ONLY CONCERN IS I WANT TO MAKE
SURE PEOPLE AREN'T BEING TAKEN
ADVANTAGE OF. AND YEAH, I THINK
A POLLING WORKER ASKING DO YOU
NEED ASSISTANCE? AND THEY SAY
YES, WE CAN TAKE THEM AT THEIR
WORD. WELL THE OTHER REQUIREMENT
IS STILL IN CODE, I BELIEVE IS
THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE
ELECTIONS OFFICIAL TO WRITE THE
NAME OF A VOTER WHO IS GETTING
ASSISTANCE. SO IF THERE'S ANY
EVER ANY ISSUE AROUND THAT THEY
HAVE THAT PROOF AND
DOCUMENTATION THAT WHEN GAIL
PELLERIN CAME IN TO VOTE, SHE
HAD SOMEONE TO SISTER WHETHER IT
WAS THE POLL WORKER WHO ASSISTED
ME OR A PERSON OF MY OWN
CHOOSING. I DON'T I JUST WOULD
ASK THAT YOU CONSIDER MAYBE WHEN
THEY GET THAT INFORMATION THAT
THEY ALSO CONFIRM WITH THE VOTER
THAT THEY ARE REQUESTING
ASSISTANCE. IT'S JUST AN IDEA.
SO JUST APPRECIATE THAT
CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. ANY OTHER COMMITTEE MEMBERS
WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS BILL.
MS PELLERIN, YOU MAKE CLOTHES.
THANK YOU. SO IT'S MY HONOR TO
BE AUTHORING THIS BILL ON BEHALF
OF DISABILITY RIGHTS, CALIFORNIA
AND, UM I SOMEONE WHO'S
CONDUCTED ELECTIONS FOR 27 A
HALF YEARS. I THINK IT'S SO
IMPORTANT THAT EVERY VOTER
COMING INTO VOTE IS TREATED WITH
DIGNITY AND EQUITY AND INCLUSION
IN THIS BILL DOES EXACTLY THAT.
I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR I
VOTE. WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR
LOWE. SECOND BY MS RUBIO AND MR
LEE, UM MISSPELL, AND I WANT TO
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS BILL
FORWARD. UM, I THINK THAT THE
PEOPLE CLOSEST TO A PROBLEM OR
OFTEN CLOSEST TO A SOLUTION AS
THE OLDER BROTHER OF TWO
SIBLINGS WITH SPECIAL NEEDS AND
DISABILITIES, UM, REMOVING ANY
AND ALL BARRIERS THAT WE CAN TO
PARTICIPATION IN SOCIETY AND
PARTICIPATION IN OUR DEMOCRACY.
I THINK IT'S A VALUE THAT WE ALL
SHOULD HOLD WITH THAT THIS BILL
HAS A DO PASS. MADAM SECRETARY,
CAN WE CALL THE ROLL? THE MOTION
IS DO PASS AND BE REFERRED TO
THE COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
. BRIAN BRIAN. I LACKEY LUCKY
ABSTAIN, BENNETT. SALI SALI, NOT
VOTING. LI LI I LO HELLO, I
PELLERIN I PELLERIN I BLANCA
RUBIO VÚI. THAT BILL IS OUT. AND
I BELIEVE WE'RE COMING TO OUR
FINAL BILL OF THE COMMITTEE
HEARING TODAY, MISS PELLERIN, A
B 626 SAME WITNESSES CALLED A
HAT TRICK. IS THAT WHAT I'M
DOING? I'M IF YOU GET HIM OUT,
LET'S FIND OUT. OKAY SO I WILL
START AGAIN BY ACCEPTING THE
COMMITTEE'S AMENDMENTS TO A B
626. AND OVER THE YEARS WE'VE
SEEN AN INCREASE IN THE NUMBER
OF VOTERS WHO ARE CHOOSING TO
VOTE BY MAIL. UM THIS TRANS
ACCELERATED NOW THAT EVERY
REGISTERED VOTER IN CALIFORNIA
IS MAILED A BALLOT THAT THEY
COULD EITHER VOTE AND TURN IN IN
PERSON, OR THEY COULD DROP IT
OFF AT A DROP BOX. AH OR MAIL IT
AND UNDER CURRENT LAW WHEN A
MAIL BALLOTS RETURNED BY MAIL TO
A DROPBOX THIS SIGNATURE ON THAT
IDENTIFICATION ENVELOPE MUST BE
COMPARED TO THE VOTER SIGNATURE
ON FILE AND, UM AND I THINK THAT
IS WHAT HAPPENED IN THE
ELECTIONS. PEOPLE DO TEND TO
WAIT FOR THOSE LAST FEW DAYS
BEFORE THE ELECTION, AND IF
THEY'RE DROPPING THOSE BALLOTS
OFF OR RETURNING HIM IN THE MAIL
, THEN YOU HAVE A HUGE BACKLOG
OF BALLOTS THAT COME IN POST
ELECTION DAY, YOU KNOW, ON
ELECTION NIGHT. AND THAT'S WHAT
LEADS TO A LOT OF THE TIME
CONSTRAINTS THAT ELECTIONS
OFFICIALS GO THROUGH AND
PROCESSING ALL THOSE RETURNED
BALLOTS. SO THIS BILL IS A
CREATIVE SOLUTION TO THAT. SO IF
A VOTER IS WILLING TO THEN TAKE
THAT BALLOT THAT WAS MAILED TO
THEM, WALK IT INTO A VOTING
LOCATION, AND THEN THE POLL
WORKER WILL READ BASICALLY VOID
THAT VOTE BY MAIL BALLOT AND
THEY WILL INSTEAD RECORD THEM IN
AS IT IN PERSON. VOTER THEY WILL
VERIFY THAT IT IS THE VOTERS.
YOU KNOW THE CORRECT VOTERS IN
FRONT OF THEM. WE'RE GOING TO
MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE CHECKING
TO MAKE SURE IT'S THE CORRECT
BALLOT TYPE. AND THEN THAT VOTER
CAN SIMPLY TURN IN THAT BALLOT
THEY HAVE IN THEIR HAND. VERSUS
HAVING TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE
PROCESS OF BEING REISSUED A
BALLOT SO THIS WILL MAKE THINGS
MORE EFFICIENT AND HOPEFULLY
SPEED UP SOME OF THAT TIME ON
COUNTING BALLOTS IF VOTERS ARE
WILLING TO COME IN AND DO THAT,
IN PERSON VOTING INSTEAD OF
RETURNING THEIR BALLOT TO A
DROPBOX OR BY MAIL SO UM, LET ME
SEE WHO ELSE WE HAVE. AND WITH
ME TO TESTIFY AGAIN. WE HAVE
ERIC HARRIS FROM DISABILITY
RIGHTS, CALIFORNIA AND THE BILL
IS ALSO SUPPORTED BY THE LEGAL
WOMEN VOTERS, ENVIRONMENTAL
ADVOCATES AND THE ELECTION
INTEGRITY PROJECT. THANKS SO
MUCH, MR HARRIS. THANK YOU. GOOD
MORNING. SHARON MEMBERS ONCE
AGAIN. ERIC HARRIS, DISABILITY
RIGHTS, CALIFORNIA AND STRONG
SUPPORT OF A B 626. A B 6 26
AIMS TO IMPROVE THE EFFICIENCY
OF THE VOTING PROCESS BY
ALLOWING VOTERS TO RETURN THEIR
VOTE BY MAIL BALLOT IN PERSON
AND HAVE IT COUNTED AS AN IN
PERSON VOTE. CURRENTLY A LARGE
NUMBER OF MAIL BALLOTS ARE
RETURNED IN VIA MAIL OR DROPBOX
IN THE FINAL DAYS BEFORE AN
ELECTION, MAKING IT CHALLENGING
FOR ELECTIONS OFFICIALS TO
PROCESS PREPARE AND COUNT THE
VOTES ON TIME. THIS DELAYS THE
ELECTION RESULTS AND CREATES AN
ADMINISTRATIVE BURDEN FOR
ELECTION WORKERS. A B 6 26 WILL
SIGNIFICANTLY SPEED UP BALLOT
PROCESSING AFTER AN ELECTION FOR
VOTERS WHO BRING THEIR VOTE
BRING THEIR VOTER MAIL BALLOT
INTO A VOTING LOCATION TO THE
PROCESSING TO BE PROCESSED
INSTEAD OF RETURNING THE BALLOT
BY MAIL OR DROPBOX. BY ALLOWING
VOTERS TO TAKE THEIR VOTED
MAILED BALLOT INTO A VOTING
LOCATION HAVE THEIR VOTER RECORD
OF THEIR VOTER RECORD UPDATED TO
REFLECT THAT THEY ARE VOTING IN
PERSON, AND THEN HAVE THEIR
BALLOT COUNTED AS AN IN PERSON
BALLOT. THE BALLOT CAN BE
PROCESSED MORE QUICKLY, WITH
FEWER DEMANDS ON ELECTIONS
WORKERS TÌM THIS ALSO PROVIDES
CERTAIN CERTAINTY FOR VOTERS
THAT THEIR BALLOT WAS SUBMITTED
AND ACCEPTED. 86 26 WILL ALSO
BENEFIT VOTERS WITH DISABILITIES
. UNDER CURRENT LAW, VOTERS WITH
DISABILITIES WHO VOTE BY MAIL
RISK HAVING THEIR BALLOT
REJECTED DUE TO INCONSISTENT
SIGNATURES. THIS IS AN ISSUE
THAT AFFECTS ALL VOTERS BUT
INCONSISTENT SIGNATURES CAN
DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACT VOTERS
WITH DISABILITIES. A B 6 26
WOULD ALLOW VOTERS WITH
DISABILITIES TO COMPLETE THEIR
VOTE BY MAIL BALLOT AT HOME AND
USE THE NORMAL IN PERSON VOTER
CHECK IN PROCEDURE. THE
PROCEDURE REQUIRES A SIGNATURE.
BUT THE SIGNATURE DOES NOT NEED
TO BE COMPARED TO ANOTHER
SIGNATURE ON FILE TO BE ACCEPTED
, REDUCING THE CHANCE OF BALLOT
REJECTION FOR VOTERS WITH
DISABILITIES AND CONCLUSION. A B
6 26 MAKES A TELEPHONE MIX.
CALIFORNIA'S DEMOCRACY MORE
EFFICIENT, ACCESSIBLE AND
INCLUSIVE BY ALLOWING VOTERS TO
RETURN THEIR VOTE BY MAIL BALLOT
IN PERSON. WE CAN SPEED UP THE
BALLOT PROCESS, REDUCE THE
WORKLOAD OF ELECTION WORKERS AND
PROVIDE GREATER ACCESS TO
INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES. I
URGE THIS COMMITTEE TO SUPPORT
THIS IMPORTANT BILL AND HELP
IMPROVE OUR ELECTION PROCESS FOR
ALL THANKS. THANK YOU IS MR O
CONFESSED ALSO TESTIFYING ON
THIS BILL. I DON'T THINK SO.
OKAY SO SORRY THAT WILL GO TO
WITNESSES IN THE ROOM NAME
ORGANIZATION POSITION ON THE
BILL. VOTERS OF CALIFORNIA DOOR
AROSE IN STRONG SUPPORT. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU, MISS ROSE.
TRICIA WEBER'S CALIFORNIA
ASSOCIATION OF CLERK AND
ELECTION OFFICIALS IN SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. CALLING BRITAIN
ELECTION INTEGRITY WERE IN
STRONG SUPPORT. WE USE THAT
SYSTEM IN SOLANO COUNTY. I
ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT, ESPECIALLY
WITH FOUR PAGE BALLOTS. IT'S
JUST NICE TO DO THAT AT HOME AND
BRING IT IN. SO THANK YOU.
BEAUTIFUL. MARQUIS SKI MASON,
CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL VOTERS
IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR
LEADERSHIP. I DON'T SEE ANY
PRIMARY WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION
TO ANYBODY. WELL I GUESS WE'LL
GO TO SUPPORT ON THE PHONE LINE.
FIRST OPERATORS THERE ANYBODY
WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN
SUPPORT ON THE PHONE LINE. AND
TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT. PRESS ONE,
THEN ZERO AT THIS TIME. WELL,
FIRST GO TO LIE IN 78. GOOD
MORNING AGAIN. MR CHAIR AND
MEMBERS DAN OAKLAND PLUS
CALIFORNIA FOUNDATION FOR
INDEPENDENT LIVING CENTERS AND
SUPPORT THERE YOU ARE. DAN NEWS.
LINE 13. LINE 13 YEAR LINE IS
OPEN. GO AHEAD, PLEASE. SORRY
JEANETTE SPELLED SACRAMENTO
COUNTY WITH ELECTION IN TRAGEDY
PROJECT CALIFORNIA IN SUPPORT.
LINE 51. YES KAREN POWER SOLANO
COUNTY FROM ELECTION INTEGRITY
PROJECT, CALIFORNIA IN SUPPORT.
69. GOOD MORNING, KIM ALEXANDER
WITH THE CALIFORNIA VOTER
FOUNDATION. WE SUPPORT THIS BILL
AND CONCEPT AND LOOK FORWARD TO
CONTINUING TO WORK WITH A FAMILY
MEMBER, PELLERIN ON SOME
CLARIFYING LANGUAGE. THANK YOU.
LINE 44. AMEN VERY PLASTIC
COUNTY ELECTION INTEGRITY
PROJECT, CALIFORNIA IN SUPPORT.
LINE 12. GOOD MORNING, APRIL
BEAN SACRAMENTO COUNTY ELECTION
INTEGRITY PROJECT, CALIFORNIA IN
SUPPORT LINE 10. MORNING SARAH
RUTH 80 55. I WANT TO THANK YOU
FOR A REALLY GREAT TRULY
BIPARTISAN BILL AND SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. LINE 54. MARK XYLEM,
ALAMEDA COUNTY WITH THE ELECTION
INTEGRITY TEAM OF ALAMEDA COUNTY
, CALIFORNIA IN SUPPORT OF A B
66. MR CHAIR. THERE ARE NO
FURTHER LINES IN. Q THANK YOU.
WE'LL GO TO PRIMARY WITNESSES
AND OPPOSITION. I DON'T SEE ANY
REGISTERED. I DON'T SEE ANY IN
THE ROOM. IS EVERYBODY IN THE
HEARING ROOM WHO WOULD LIKE TO
SPEAK IN OPPOSITION? SEEING
NONE. IS THERE ANYBODY ON THE
PHONE LINE WHO WOULD LIKE TO
SPEAK AND OPPOSITION? TO SPEAK
IN OPPOSITION PRESS ONE, THEN
ZERO AT THIS TIME. LINE 68.
JACKIE CODA ELECTION INTEGRITY
TEAM OF ALAMEDA COUNTY. I DON'T
UNDERSTAND THIS BILL BECAUSE WE
ALREADY HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S
CALLED IN PERSON VOTING DON'T
UNDERSTAND THAT IT SAYS CITY FOR
THIS, THEY CAN SIMPLY ASK FOR
BILL. I MEAN A BALLOT. THANK YOU
IN OPPOSITION. LINE 70. MY NAME
IS WENDY HONG AND I'M OPPOSED
THIS BILL. IF IT DOESN'T SHOW I
D AND HE JUST STOPPED WALKING
THE DISABLED PEOPLE BECAUSE
WE'RE CAPABLE OF DOING VOTED
JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE. WE WILL
COME PREPARED. THANK YOU SO
MUCH. THANK YOU. MR CHAIR. WE
HAVE NO FURTHER LINES AND KILL
BEAUTIFUL WE WILL OPEN IT UP TO
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. MANY MEMBERS
OF THE COMMITTEE WHO WISH TO
SPEAK ON THIS BILL. THANK YOU,
BILL. MOST OF MY MR LOWE. MR
LACKEY. YOU RECKON THAT? YEAH I
JUST HAVE A STATEMENT. I REALLY
DON'T HAVE A QUESTION. I JUST
WANTED TO SAY THAT I DO BELIEVE
THAT THIS GIVE THIS BILL
ACTUALLY CREATES A BIG GAP
TOWARDS VOTER INTEGRITY AND IN
MY OPINION, BORDER INTEGRITY
OVERSHADOWS ANY EFFICIENCY
JUSTIFICATION SO I CAN'T SUPPORT
THIS TODAY. MR SAYLOR. THANK YOU
. UM MR PARKER, AND I KNOW IT.
WE SPOKE BRIEFLY, AND I WANT TO
CONFIRM THAT WHEN A VOTER SHOWS
UP THERE YOU GO THROUGH THE SAME
VERIFICATION PROCESS AS AN IN
PERSON VOTER ONCE SURRENDERED
WHEN DELIVERING THE BALLOT. IS
THAT CORRECT, CORRECT PROCESS
WOULD NOT CHANGE ONLY THING
THAT'S CHANGING IS INSTEAD OF
FILLING OUT A BLANK BALLOT, THEY
COULD HAND IN THE BALLOT THEY
FILLED OUT AT HOME. CORRECT OKAY
, SO GENERALLY, I MAY AGREE WITH
MY COLLEAGUE THAT I BELIEVE WE
NEED MORE. I THINK WE SHOULD
HAVE VOTER ID. I THINK WE SHOULD
HAVE MORE CHECKS IN THERE. BUT
THIS PROCESS SEEMS TO BE
CONSISTENT WITH THE SAME PROCESS
AS VOTING IN PERSON, AND I CAN
SAY AT LEAST FOR MY SIDE OF THE
AISLE. THERE'S A LOT MORE VOTERS
WHO NOW WISH TO VOTE IN PERSON
OR DROP THEIR BALLOT OFF IN
PERSON. SO, UM I ACTUALLY THINK
THIS WOULD EXPEDITE THE COUNTING
OF THE BALLOTS, SO I WILL
SUPPORT THIS AND UM AND I HOPE
WE CAN WORK TOGETHER ON OTHER
ISSUES. I APPRECIATE YOUR
EXPERIENCE THAT YOU BRING AND I
LOVE TO WORK WITH YOU ON FIGURE
OUT HOW TO CLEAN UP OUR VOTING
ROLLS AND OTHER THINGS. SO THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GREAT
ANY OTHER MEMBERS WHO WILL SPEAK
ON THIS BILL. MOTION BY MR LOW
MOTION BY MR LEE. I LOVE THIS
BILL. THE REASON I LOVE THIS
BILL IS BECAUSE UM, MY BALLOT IN
LOS ANGELES WAS MANY, MANY, MANY
, MANY PAGES LONG AND SOMETIMES
YOU NEED TO SIT AND GO THROUGH
IT, AND IT TAKES SOME TIME AND
THE ABILITY TO THEN TURN THAT
IN. UH IT'S GREAT TO MY
COLLEAGUE WHO MENTIONED IT WOULD
IT COULD POTENTIALLY EXPEDITE
THE COUNTING PROCESS. IT WILL
EXPEDITE THE COUNTING PROCESS.
THERE'S ALSO A GENERATIONAL BIAS
HERE. YOUNG VOTERS VOTE LATE. I
KNOW BECAUSE I JUST DID A SURVEY
OF MR LEE AND I AND WE BOTH WE
VOTED LATE AND WE WERE ON THE
BALLOT. UM SO YOU ARE SOLVING
MANY, MANY PROBLEMS WITH THIS
SMART AND THOUGHTFUL BILL. IT
HAS TO DO PASS RECORD FOR ME,
MADAM SECRETARY. CAN WE CALL THE
ROLL?  MOTION IS
AMENDED AND BE RE REFERRED TO
THE COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
. BRIAN BRIAN. I LACKEY VOTING,
NOT VOTING BENNETT. A SALLY, I
LI I LI I LO LO, I PELLERIN
PELLERIN, I BLANCA RUBIO. BLANCA
RUBIO? AYE. 60 0. THAT BILL IS
OUT THREE FOR THREE. THAT'S A
HATTRICK, OKAY? DO YOU FEEL MUCH
TIME? OKAY. COOL AIR TICKET TO
THANK YOU. RELATION. THE FIRST
COMMITTEE. HOW ARE YOU CAN'T
BEAT IT WAS GREAT. I'LL TAKE
CARE OF THAT FOR ME TO GET OUT
COMPROMISED, RIGHT?
THERE ARE ABSENT MEMBERS WHO'D
LIKE TO COME DOWN TO THE
COMMITTEE. WE COULD REALLY USE
YOU. NOW I'M GOING TO LIFT THE
CALL ON ITEM NUMBER ONE A. B 13
BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S SALIH. THE
CURRENT VOTE IS 2 TO 4 WITH THE
CHAIR VOTING. NO, MADAM
SECRETARY. PLEASE CALL THE
ABSENT MEMBERS. ON A B 13 IS
SALIH BENNETT. MR BENNETT ON A B
13. THE CHAIR VOTED NO. BENNETT
NO, LO HELLO, NÓ. THAT FAILS TO
SIX. I'M GOING TO LIFT THE CALL
AN ITEM NUMBER TO RESPECT HER
RECONSIDERATION ON A B 13.
WITHOUT OBJECTION. OBJECTION BY
MR LEE. DO WE HAVE A MOTION?
WHATEVER RECONSIDERATION MOTION
IN A BOAT CORRECT. MOTION BY MR
LEE. IS THERE A SECOND? YES, YOU
DON'T KNOW. GOT YOU? IS THERE A
MOTION TO GRANT RECONSIDERATION
AND A 2ND 2ND? MADAM SECRETARY,
CAN WE CALL THE ROLL? BRIAN
VOTING, BRIAN, NOT VOTING. LUCKY
LUCKY I BENNETT. BENNETT NOT
VOTING A SALLY I LI LI NO LO LO
, NOT VOTING, PELLERIN. HIÆN I
BLANCA RUBIO. ONE.
YEAH. NO. RECONSIDERATION FAILS.
GONNA LIFT THE CALL AN ITEM
NUMBER TWO A. B 83 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S EARLY THE
CURRENT VOTE IS 4 TO 1 WITH THE
CHAIR. VOTING I, MADAM
SECRETARY. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
DONE IT, BENNETT I A SALLY 80 83
BY MR LEE. NO SALLY NÓ. PASSES
BY THAT BILL PASSES 5 TO 2.
NUMBER TWO STEP. MADAM
SECRETARY. CAN WE GO THROUGH THE
ROLE TO ADD, ALLOW MEMBERS TO
ADD ON AND MAKE VOTE CHANGES? ON
THE ADOPTION OF THE RULES, MR
LACKEY. WHY LUCKY I LI. HI I LO
LO. I ON CONSENT. IT'S MAYBE 453
CERVANTES A B 507 BRIAN. LACKEY
LUCKY I LI I LO LO. I. ON ITEM
THREE. A B 398 PELLERIN DOES
ANYBODY WISH TO ADD OR CHANGE
YOUR VOTE? REMEMBER LAFFY LIKES
TO CHANGE CHANGE ABSTAINED TO
NOT VOTING. LACKEY, NOT VOTING
BENNETT. A SALI SALI. NO. ON
ITEM SIX A. B 5 45 PELLERIN.
YES. LUCKY VOTE CHANGE. FROM
ABSTAINED TO NOT VOTING. LUCKY
CHANGING FROM ABSTAIN TO NOT
VOTING BENNETT. ON ITEM. SEVEN.
86 26 PELLERIN. BENNETT.
THAT CONCLUDES THE FIRST
ELECTIONS COMMITTEE HEARING OF
THIS YEAR. THANK YOU ALL FOR
PARTICIPATING. WE ARE ADJOURNED