GOOD. AFTERNOON, THE ASSEMBLY
TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE IS
CALLED TO ORDER. THE HEARING
ROOM IS OPEN FOR ATTENDANCE OF
THIS HEARING, AND IT CAN BE
WATCHED FROM A LIVE STREAM ON
THE ASSEMBLY'S WEBSITE. WE
ENCOURAGE THE PUBLIC TO PROVIDE
WRITTEN TESTIMONY BY VISITING
THE COMMITTEE WEBSITE NOTE THAT
ANY WRITTEN TESTIMONY SUBMITTED
TO THE COMMITTEE IS CONSIDERED
PUBLIC COMMENT AND MAYBE READ
INTO THE RECORD OR REPRINTED. WE
WILL ALLOW TWO MINUTES EACH FOR
TWO PRIMARY WITNESSES AND
SUPPORT AND AN OPPOSITION AND
THESE WITNESSES MUST TESTIFY IN
PERSON AND HEARING ROOM.
ADDITIONAL WITNESS COMMENTS WILL
BE LIMITED TO YOUR NAME,
ORGANIZATION AND POSITION AND
THOSE CAN BE EITHER IN PERSON OR
BY TELEPHONE. WE'RE GOING TO
START WITH THE MEMBERS OF THE
PUBLIC WHO ARE HERE IN THE ROOM,
AND THEN WE'LL MOVE TO A BLENDED
PHONE LINE, MEANING WE'LL HEAR
OPPOSITION AND SUPPORT TOGETHER.
TO USE OUR TELEPHONE SERVICE.
THE NUMBER TO CALL IS 877692.
AND THE ACCESS CODE IS 1850
1100. FINALLY THE COMMITTEE, THE
ASSEMBLY HAS EXPERIENCED A
NUMBER OF DISRUPTIONS TO
COMMITTEE AND FLOOR PROCEEDINGS
IN THE LAST FEW YEARS, CONDUCT
THAT DISRUPTS, DISTURBS OR
OTHERWISE IMPEDES THE ORDERLY
CONDUCT OF THE HEARING IS
PROHIBITED. SUCH CONDUCT MAY
INCLUDE TALKING OR MAKING LOUD
NOISES FROM THE AUDIENCE,
UTTERING LOUD THREATENING OR
ABUSIVE LANGUAGE SPEAKING LONGER
THAN THE TIME ALLOTTED, EXTENDED
DISCUSSION OF MATTERS NOT
RELATED TO THE SUBJECT OF THE
HEARING AND OTHER DISRUPTIVE
ACTS TO JUST TO ADDRESS ANY
DISRUPTIVE CONTACT. I WILL TAKE
THE FOLLOWING STEPS IF AN
INDIVIDUAL DISRUPTS OUR HEARING
ALL DIRECT THEM TO STOP AND
WARNED THEM THAT CONTINUED
DISRUPTIONS MAY RESULT. REMOVAL
FROM THE BUILDING. I WILL ALSO
DOCUMENT ON THE RECORD THE
INDIVIDUAL INVOLVED IN THE
NATURE OF THE DISRUPTIVE CONDUCT
TEMPORARILY HAVE TO RECESS. THE
HEARING CONDUCT DOESN'T STOP.
I'LL REQUEST THE ASSISTANCE OF
THE SERGEANTS AND ESCORTING THE
INDIVIDUAL FROM THE BUILDING.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR COOPERATION
WITH THAT WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN
OUR HEARING. WE DO NOT HAVE A
QUORUM. TODAY. WE'LL TAKE ROLL
CALL WHEN WE HAVE A QUORUM. WE
HAVE FIVE BILLS ON CONSENT. AND
WE WILL MOVE THE CONSENT FILE AT
WHICH TIME AS WE HAVE A QUORUM.
FILE ITEM NUMBER TWO A B 5 68
AND FILE ITEM 9 85 40 WILL NOT
BE HEARD TODAY. WE'RE GOING TO
MOVE NOW TO OUR FIRST BILL HB 2
76 ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S DIXON, YOU
MAY COME TO THE PODIUM WITH YOUR
WITNESSES AND BEGIN WHEN YOU ARE
READY.
YOU HAVE TO PUSH BUTTON. THANK
YOU. OKAY TRY PUSHING THE
BUTTON. THERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT,
GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIR, MADAM
CHAIR AND MEMBERS. I AM HERE
TODAY TO PRESENT ON ASSEMBLY.
BILL 276. A B 276 WILL RAISE THE
CELLPHONE LAWS ARE CURRENTLY
APPLIED TO THOSE UNDER 18 YEARS
OF AGE TO THOSE UNDER 21 YEARS
OF AGE. CURRENT CALIFORNIA LAW
PROHIBITS MOTORISTS UNDER AGE
18. FROM USING A MOBILE DEVICE
WHILE DRIVING ENTIRELY WHETHER
REGARDLESS OF WHETHER IT IS
OPERATED IN A HANDS FREE
CAPACITY. MOTOR IS OVER THE AGE
OF 18 MAY USE A MOBILE DEVICE
WHILE DRIVING, BUT IT MUST BE IN
A HANDS FREE MODE AND ONLY
ACCESSIBLE BY A SINGLE SWIPE OR
TAP. A B 276 SPECIFIES DRIVERS
UNDER THE AGE OF 21 BECAUSE OF
THE DATA, ACCORDING TO DATA FROM
THE GOVERNOR'S HIGHWAY SAFETY
ASSOCIATION. THIS AGE GROUP IS
1.6 TIMES MORE LIKELY TO BE
INVOLVED IN A FATAL CRASH THAN
OLDER DRIVERS. ON TOP OF THAT
DATA FROM THE CHP S STATEWIDE
INTEGRATED TRAFFIC RECORD
SYSTEM. INDICATED THAT IN 2020,
THERE WERE 6644 FATAL AND INJURY
CRASHES INVOLVING TEEN DRIVERS
BETWEEN 15 AND 19. YEARS OF AGE
. THIS AGE GROUP HAS THE LARGEST
RATIO OF DRIVERS WHO WERE
DISTRACTED AT THE TIME OF THE
FATAL CRASHES. THE GOAL OF A B
276 IS TO KEEP OUR ROADS SAFE
FOR ALL DRIVERS. I AM A MOTHER
AND A GRANDMOTHER. AND I KNOW
THAT EVEN WITH EDUCATING YOUR
DRIVER ON THE DANGERS OF THE
ROAD, SOMETIMES THEY DO NOT
LISTEN. THE PROVISIONS OF HB 276
ARE ONLY THIS IS AN IMPORTANT
POINT ARE ONLY APPLICABLE AS A
SECOND OFFENSE. LAW ENFORCEMENT
WOULD BE PULLING A DRIVER OVER
INITIALLY FOR ANOTHER ISSUE IF
THEY SEE THAT THE DEVICE IS IN
USE, OR WAS A NEWS AS THEY
APPROACHED THE CAR, THEY CAN
THEN ISSUE A CITATION FOR THE
USE OF THE MOBILE DEVICE. I DO
WANT TO KNOW THAT THERE IS AN
EXEMPTION FROM THESE PROVISIONS
FOR THOSE THAT ARE REQUIRED TO
USE THEIR PHONE FOR WORK. THIS
POLICY TARGETS OF POPULATION AT
GREATEST RISK OF DISTRACTED
DRIVING RELATED COLLISIONS AND
REMOVES THE BIGGEST DISTRACTION
FROM THEIR FIELD OF VISION. I
WOULD LIKE TO THANK MADAM CHAIR
FOR HER SUPPORT OF THIS BILL,
AND I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS
YOU HAVE AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU
. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE HAVE NO
WITNESSES ON FILE IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION. SO I'D LIKE TO GO TO
THE ROOM TO SEE IF THERE'S
ANYBODY IN THE ROOM WHO WISHES
TO TESTIFY. IN FAVOR OR AGAINST
A B 2 76. OKAY SEEING NO ONE IN
THE ROOM. OPERATOR CAN YOU
PLEASE OPEN THE PHONE LINES FOR
TESTIMONY AND SUPPORTING OR
OPPOSING A B 2 76? THANK YOU FOR
YOUR SUPPORTER OPPOSITION. YOU
MAY PRESS ONE AND THEN ZERO.
AGAIN THAT IS ONE IN THEM. ZERO
FOR SUPPORTER OPPOSITION. AND WE
HAVE NONE ON THE PHONE. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. WE'LL GO BACK TO
THE COMMITTEE TO SEE IF THERE'S
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. NOW
I'LL SUPPORT YOUR BILL TODAY. I
APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING IT
FORWARD. UM AND EVEN WITH HANDS
FREE. WE KNOW THAT BEING
DISTRACTED WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING,
SO LEADING CAUSE OF ACCIDENTS
AND VERY DANGEROUS AND THIS
POPULATION CERTAINLY NEEDS TO
FOCUS ON THEIR DRIVING. I'M NOT.
I'M NOT. I'M BEING ON THE PHONE.
THERE ARE TECHNOLOGICAL FIXES
OUT THERE. I WISH THE CELL PHONE
COMPANIES WOULD DEPLOY MORE OF
THOSE AND GIVE PARENTS AND
OTHERS THAT THE OPPORTUNITY TO
USE THOSE TYPES OF TECHNOLOGIES
. BUT FOR NOW, I CERTAINLY DO
APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS
FORWARD. WOULD YOU LIKE TO
CLOSE? I THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU. MEMBERS AND MADAM
CHAIR AND I ASK YOU FOR YOUR I
VOTE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE
HAVE A QUORUM. WE WILL TAKE A
VOTE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO
MUCH. NEXT UP. WE HAVE
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S HAPPENED SINCE.
I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER AUTHORS
HERE. OH, NO, I'M SORRY. I TAKE
IT BACK. I APOLOGIZE. I WILL GO
IN ORDER WE DO HAVE
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S RAMOS IS NEXT
ON THE FILE. I DIDN'T SEE HIM
THERE. SORRY TO GET YOU KIND OF
EXCITED. UM THANK YOU, SAM.
REMEMBER, RAMOS? YOU MAY COME UP
AND WHENEVER YOU'RE READY, YOU
CAN BEGIN. THANK YOU. AND MR
RAMOS IS HERE OR A B 6 30. BUT
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS. MAYBE 6 30 AIMS TO
BRIDGE THE GAP AMONG TRIBES AND
CALTRANS FOR THE PURPOSES OF
TRANSPORTATION RELATED PROJECTS.
THE BILL UPDATES EXISTING LAW TO
ALLOW CALTRANS TO ENTER INTO
CONTRACTS WITH ENTITIES OWNED BY
FEDERALLY RECOGNIZED TRIBES. AS
IT STANDS, CALTRANS IS ONLY ABLE
TO ENTER INTO CONTRACTS WITH
FAIRLY RECOGNIZED TRIBES FOR THE
PURPOSES OF OFF RESERVATION
TRAFFIC, IMPACT MITIGATION
PROJECTS OR CONNECTIONS TO THE
STATE HIGHWAY SYSTEM. THE LAW
DOES NOT ALLOW FOR ENTITIES
OWNED BY THE TRIBES TO ENTER
INTO CONTRACTS AND HIS LIMITING
PRO PRODUCTIVITY AND
COLLABORATIONS ON SHARED
INTERESTS. IN MANY INSTANCES,
COLLABORATION BETWEEN A TRIBALLY
OWNED ENTITY IN A STATE OR LOCAL
GOVERNMENT IMPROVES
INFRASTRUCTURE AND RESOURCE
CONDITIONS FOR A TRADITIONALLY
UNDERSERVED COMMUNITY. A B 6 30
IS NECESSARY TO PROMOTE MORE
PRODUCTIVITY CAPACITY WITHIN
TRAFFIC IMPACT MITIGATION
PROJECTS INVOLVING TRIBAL
ENTITIES. DUE TO A CATASTROPHIC
FLOODING ON THE TOOLEY INDIAN
RESERVATION HERE IN THE LAST
COUPLE OF DAYS. OUR ORIGINAL
WITNESS, CHAIRMAN PERON AND VICE
CHAIRMAN NETTO WILL NOT BE ABLE
TO SPEAK, HOWEVER, SPEAKING ON
BEHALF OF TWO LI RIVER WILL BE
PAM LOPEZ AND ON THE PHONE FOR
ANY TECHNIC TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE
WILL BE CARY PATTERSON, ATTORNEY
FOR THE TOOLEY RIVER INDIAN
RESERVATION. THANK YOU, MR RAMOS
. CHAIRMAN PERONI IS SORRY THAT
HE CAN'T BE HERE TODAY, ALTHOUGH
TOOLEY RIVER EXPERIENCES, SEVERE
DROUGHT AND DRINKING WATER
SHORTAGES EVERY SUMMER, THEY ARE
ALSO PLAGUED BY SEVERE FLOODING
, AND THIS WINTER HAVE HAD
SEVERAL STRUCTURES BE DESTROYED
DUE TO SEVERE FLOODING. SO HE'S
THERE TAKING CARE OF THAT? UM AS
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S RAMOS MENTIONED
, UM TRIBALLY OWNED, UH,
BUSINESS ENTITIES OFTEN SHARE
THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITIES
WHERE THEY ARE LOCATED THE TRULY
RIVER GAMING AUTHORITY, WHICH IS
IN CHARGE OF THE CHILI RIVER
CASINO, IS LOCATED IN THE CITY
OF PORTER VILLE, CALIFORNIA BY
WAY, OF EXAMPLE. THIS IS ONE
COMMUNITY IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA THAT IS TRADITIONALLY
UNDERSERVED. THE TRULY RIVER
TRIBE WISHES TO ENTER, UM, A
SHARED CONTRACTING AGREEMENT
WITH CALTRANS IN ORDER TO WORK
ON TRAFFIC MITIGATION AREA
ISSUES IN THE CITY OF
PORTERVILLE THAT WILL BENEFIT
THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY. IN THE
PAST, THE TRULY RIVER TRIBE HAS
WORKED WITH STATE WATER ENTITIES
AND LOCAL WATER ENTITIES ON
WATER TREATMENT FACILITIES IN
THE CITY OF PORTER VILLE AND THE
COMMUNITY OF PORTERVILLE AS
WELL. SO THIS IS ONE EXAMPLE.
THAT'S A GOOD THING FOR THE
ENTIRE COMMUNITY, BUT TRULY
RIVER RIVER HOPES TO FIX THIS
ISSUE FOR ALL TRIBES STATEWIDE.
I WILL JUST NOTE THAT THIS BILL
ALSO, UM, ELIMINATES THE
REQUIRED WAIVER OF SOVEREIGN
IMMUNITY. UH PURSUANT TO 2020
RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE
CALIFORNIA TRANSPORTATION
COMMISSION, A GREAT STEP FORWARD
FOR TRIBES. AND TRIBALLY OWNED
ENTITIES IN TERMS OF CONTRACTING
WITH CALTRANS. WE THANK YOU FOR
YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS ISSUE
TODAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE
HAVE NO WITNESSES ON FILE IN
OPPOSITION, SO I WOULD ASK
ANYBODY IN THE ROOM WHICH TO
TESTIFY FOR OR AGAINST THE BILL
TO PLEASE COME UP TO THE
MICROPHONE. I'M SORRY. SORRY. UM
I WOULD IS THE MICROPHONE ON FOR
WITNESSES. YES. OKAY? ANYBODY
ELSE, OKAY, SEEING NO OTHER
WITNESSES IN THE ROOM. OPERATOR
CAN YOU PLEASE OPEN THE PHONE
LINE FOR TESTIMONY FOR OR
AGAINST A B 6 30? YOU'RE IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION. YOU MAY
PRESS ONE AND THEN ZERO. AGAIN
THAT IS ONE AND THEN ZERO FOR
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION. AND WE
HAVE NO ONE IN Q AT THIS TIME.
THANK YOU. I'LL GO BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE. THERE'S ANY
QUESTIONS. OKAY WELL, I WANT TO
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS
FORWARD ON BEHALF OF YOUR
COMMUNITY. WE ABSOLUTELY WANT
TRIBAL GOVERNMENTS TO HAVE EQUAL
ACCESS TO STATE RESOURCES, AND I
VERY MUCH APPRECIATE YOUR WORK
WITH OUR COMMITTEE, ADDRESSING
JUST THE FEW TECHNICAL CONCERNS
THAT WE HAD, AND I'M VERY HAPPY
TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THE BILL.
TODAY WHEN WE HAVE A QUORUM, WE
WILL TAKE A ROLL CALL. WOULD YOU
LIKE TO CLOSE? THANK YOU. THANK
YOU, MADAM CHAIR AND COMMITTEE
MEMBERS. AND THANK YOU FOR
ALWAYS BEING THERE TO ADDRESS
THE ISSUES THAT ARE PLAGUING, UH
, MOST UNDERSERVED POPULATION,
THE CALIFORNIA INDIAN PEOPLE AND
MOVING FORWARD ON THIS BILL
ASKED FOR YOUR I VOTE WHEN THE
TIME IS APPROPRIATE. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY NEXT,
WE WILL ASK ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
HAPPEN TO COME UP WITH ANY
WITNESSES. FOR A B 7 56. GOOD
AFTERNOON. MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS
DELIGHTED TO BE WITH YOU HERE
TODAY. THIS IS A BILL ABOUT
CHEMICALS THAT COME OFF THE
TIRES GET IN THE WATER. CAN YOU
HEAR THAT, THEN? HARM SALMON. TO
BUILD A STRONG SAVING
SUSTAINABLE FUTURE FOR
CALIFORNIA. WE MUST TAKE ACTION
AND PRESERVE THE HEALTH AND
SAFETY OF OUR AQUATIC
ECOSYSTEMS. A B 756 WILL REQUIRE
THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION
TO DEVELOP AND IMPLEMENT A
STRATEGY TO ELIMINATE TOXIC
ADDITIVE FOUND IN VEHICLE TIRES
KNOWN AS SIX PPD FROM STORMWATER
DISCHARGE FLOWING INTO SALMON
BEARING SURFACE WATERS. SIX P P
D Q HAS BEEN MEASURED IN
CALIFORNIA STREAMS AT
CONCENTRATIONS ABOVE THOSE SHOWN
TO KILL AT LEAST HALF OF COHO
SALMON IN LABORATORY
EXPERIMENTS. A B 756 WILL DO
WILL DIRECT THE DEPARTMENT TO
IDENTIFY LOCATIONS WHERE
HIGHWAYS CROSS SALMON AND
STEELHEAD BEARING WATERS.
ADDITIONALLY THIS MEASURE WILL
DIRECT CALTRANS TO STUDY THE
FEASIBILITY AND COST
EFFECTIVENESS OF INSTALLING AND
MAINTAINED BY MAINTAINING BIO
RETENTION AND BIO FILTRATION
SYSTEMS. FORTUNATELY FOR US BIO
FILTRATION AND BIO RETENTION
SYSTEMS ARE READY AVAILABLE
STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PRACTICES
THAT EFFECTIVELY TREAT THE
RUNOFF OF SIX PPD IN TERMS OF
BOTH TOXIC CHEMICAL EXPOSURE AND
SALMON SPAWN ER, SURVIVAL WITH
ME TODAY TO TESTIFY AND SUPPORT
OF THIS BILL IS MR SON, SEAN
BARTHWELL, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF
THE CALIFORNIA COAST KEEPER
ALLIANCE. GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIR
AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS. SEAN
BOTTLE I'M, THE EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR FOR CALIFORNIA COAST
KEEPER ALLIANCE IN STRONG
SUPPORT OF THE BILL. UM THE
ISSUE AND THE CONCERN AROUND SIX
P. P. D IS AN EMERGING ISSUE.
BUT THE SCIENCE AND THE RESEARCH
ACTUALLY AROUND THIS, THIS
CONCERN IS NOT NEW AT ALL. IN
THE EIGHTIES AND NINETIES,
SCIENTISTS ARE STARTING TO
REALIZE THAT COHO SALMON,
PARTICULARLY UP IN WASHINGTON,
WERE ACTING STRANGELY AROUND
SPAWNING SEASON. BUT THEY DIDN'T
REALLY UNDERSTAND WHY. UM IN
2002. THEY INVESTED SOME MONEY
AND RESEARCH INTO RESTORING
STREAMS THINKING THAT WAS THE
ISSUE, AND THEN THEY WOULD
FUNCTION NORMALLY AGAIN, BUT YET
THAT DIDN'T WORK. THE
RESTORATION OF STREAMS DID NOT
RESULT IN IN THE COHO SALMON
ACTING AS THEY SHOULD HAVE. IN
2008, SCIENTISTS STARTED
REALIZING THAT THE DIRECT IMPACT
WAS COMING FROM STORMWATER
DISCHARGES. THEY JUST DIDN'T
KNOW WHAT THE POLLUTANT WAS THAT
WAS CAUSING THE SALMON CONCERNS
AND PROBLEMS IN 2015 THEY HONED
IN ON THE ISSUE COMING FROM CARS
, AND IT WASN'T UNTIL 2020 THAT
SCIENTISTS HAVE REALIZED THAT
THIS CHEMICAL SIX PPD IS WHAT IS
CAUSING WHAT'S CALLED COHO
MORTALITY SYNDROME. WHICH
ESSENTIALLY IF IT GETS INTO THE
WATER KILLS ALL THE SALMON IN
THE NEARBY AREA. A B 756 COMMITS
THE DEPARTMENT. TO STUDY THE
MOST COST EFFECTIVE WAY TO
ADDRESS THIS CONCERN AND THEN
PUTS CALTRANS ON A PATH TO
ELIMINATE THIS DISCHARGE PROBLEM
BY 2037. THE GREATEST PART ABOUT
THIS BILL IS THE BIO FILTRATION
. BIO RETENTION DOESN'T JUST
ADDRESS THE POLLUTANTS. SIX PPD
IN ADDRESSES JUST ABOUT ALL THE
POLLUTANTS THAT ARE FOUND IN
CALTRANS STORMWATER POLLUTION
FOR WHICH THERE RIGHT NOW
LEGALLY RESPONSIBLE TO ADDRESS
PARTICULARLY MICROPLASTICS IS
SOMETHING THAT THERE'S BEEN A
LOT OF ATTENTION ON IN THIS
STATE ASSEMBLY OVER THE LAST
COUPLE YEARS DUE TO SEVERAL
BILLS, AND A LOT OF SCIENCE HAS
BEEN DONE TO SHOW THE IMPACT AND
THE CAUSE OF MICRO PLASTIC HAS
FROM STORMWATER DISCHARGES, BIO
FILTRATION AND BUYER ATTENTION
IS ONE OF THE REALLY ONLY WAYS
WE KNOW TO CONTROL MICROPLASTICS
FROM GOING INTO OUR WATERWAYS.
SO THIS ISN'T JUST ABOUT SIX P
P. D. ALTHOUGH THAT'S THAT'S THE
AIM OF IT. SO WITH THAT, I WOULD
ASK FOR YOUR VOTE AND HAPPY TO
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE HAVE NO
WITNESSES REGISTERED IN
OPPOSITION, SO I WOULD ASK IF
THERE'S ANYBODY IN THE ROOM WHO
WISHES TO TESTIFY FOR OR AGAINST
A B 7 56. SEEING NO TAKERS WILL
MOVE TO THE PHONE LINES.
OPERATOR. COULD YOU PLEASE OPEN
UP THE PHONE LINES FOR ABC? 7
56. CAREFULLY SUPPORTER
OPPOSITION, YOU MAY PRESS ONE
AND THEN ZERO. AGAIN THAT'S ONE
AND THEN ZERO FOR SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION. FOR A B 7 56. WE DO
HAVE 11 MOMENT, PLEASE. AND WE
WILL GO TO LINE EIGHT. YOUR LINE
IS OPEN. MY NAME IS CODY
PHILLIPS AND I'M CALLING ON
BEHALF OF CLEAN WATER ACTION
LOSS. ANGELES WATERKEEPER
HUMBLED BAYKEEPER, SANTA
BARBARA, CHANNEL KEEPER, WATER
CLIMATE TRUST AND DIEGO COAST
KEEPER CHARLTON LIMITED AND
ORANGE COUNTY COAST KEEPER IN
SUPPORT OF THIS, BILL. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. AND WE HAVE NO
FURTHER SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OPERATOR.
ANY COMMITTEE MEMBER. NO WELL, I
WANT TO REALLY THANK YOU FOR
BRINGING THIS FORWARD. THIS IS
SUCH AN IMPORTANT TOPIC AND
CALIFORNIANS CARE DEEPLY ABOUT
BIODIVERSITY. THEY CARE ABOUT
THE HEALTH OF THEIR STREAMS,
THEIR FISH POPULATION, THEIR
ANIMAL POPULATION, AND WE'VE
BEEN ALLOWING THIS POISONING TO
GO ON FOR FAR TOO LONG, SO I'D
BE SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE
BILL TODAY, DO YOU? WOULD YOU
LIKE TO CLOSE? THANK YOU, MADAM
CHAIR AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR
KIND REMARKS. I COULDN'T AGREE
MORE. WE MUST ELIMINATE THESE
TOXIC NANOPARTICLES AND KEEP
THEM FROM POLLUTING OUR RIVERS
AND POISONING OUR SALMON.
REMOVING SIX PPD IS ONE STEP
TOWARDS PRESERVING THE
INTEGRITY, STABILITY AND BEAUTY
AND BEAUTY OF CALIFORNIA'S WATER
CYCLE. I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
YOUR WAY I VOTE THANK YOU. AS
SOON AS WE HAVE A QUORUM, WE'LL
TAKE A VOTE. APPRECIATE YOU.
SINCE WE DON'T HAVE ANOTHER
AUTHOR, WE WILL GO TO A
COMMITTEE MEMBER, MR LOWENTHAL.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS. I AM PLEASED TO PRESENT
A B 14 63, WHICH IS A PRIVACY
BILL SEEKING TO REGULATE HOW WE
HANDLE THE PRIVACY OF
CALIFORNIANS AND THOSE SEEKING
REFUGE IN OUR STATE WHEN IT
COMES TO AUTOMATED LICENSE PLATE
READERS SYSTEMS, ALSO KNOWN AS
EL PRS. IN 2019, THE CALIFORNIA
STATE AUDITOR DECLARED THAT
LEGISLATIVE ACTION IS NECESSARY
TO PROTECT CALIFORNIA'S PRIVACY
RIGHTS. HOWEVER IN THREE YEARS
SUBSEQUENT NOTHING HAS HAPPENED
AND NOW WITH OTHER STATES,
PROPOSING LAWS THAT ARE NOW
FOCUSING ON OUT OF STATE
VISITORS COMING TO CALIFORNIA TO
SEEK REPRODUCTIVE AND GENDER
AFFIRMING MEDICAL CARE, IT IS
VITAL THAT WE IMPLEMENT PRIVACY
MEASURES REGARDING L. P. R. S.
14 63 80 14 63 DOES THREE THINGS
TO ENSURE PRIVACY FOR EVERYONE
NUMBER ONE. REQUIRES PUBLIC
AGENCIES OPERATING AL PRS TO
PERFORM AN ANNUAL COMPLIANCE ON
IT. AS RECOMMENDED BY THE STATE
AUDITOR NUMBER TWO. IT PURGES
GEOLOCATION DATA NOT ASSOCIATED
WITH THE INVESTIGATION OF ANY
CRIME AFTER 30 DAYS, AS
RECOMMENDED BY THE STATE'S
LEADING ALPI, OUR SUPPLIER FLOCK
SAFETY AND IN LINE WITH THE
CALIFORNIA STATE AUDITOR
RECOMMENDATION TO LIMIT
RETENTION TO THE SHORTEST
POSSIBLE TIME. NUMBER THREE. IT
FORBIDS THE SHARING OF
GEOLOCATION DATA WITHOUT OF
STATE AND FEDERAL AGENCIES
WITHOUT A VALID COURT ORDER,
SUBPOENA OR WARRANT. IF THIS
ISN'T CLEAR YET, DESPITE BEING
ENTRANCE, THIS IS A PRIVACY BILL
LPR. OURS ARE JUST ONE OF THE
MANY SURVEILLANCE TOOLS THAT OUT
OF STATE POLICE AND ANTI
ABORTION GROUPS HAVE AVAILABLE
TO THEM. AND THESE READERS HAVE
BECOME ONE OF THE MOST POWERFUL
TOOLS AVAILABLE. AS OTHER STATES
HAVE BEGUN PROPOSING LAWS THAT
PLACE BOUNTIES ON A WOMAN'S HEAD
FOR SEEKING ABORTION AND
ABORTION, SAFE STATES AND FOR
TRANS PEOPLE THAT ARE SEEKING
LIFESAVING, GENDER AFFIRMING
CARE. IT IS ESSENTIAL THAT WE
ESTABLISH APPROPRIATE
LIMITATIONS ON THE GEOLOCATION
DATA OF CARS ON CALIFORNIA ROADS
THAT WE SHARE WITH OUT OF STATE
LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES. WE
MUST PROTECT CALIFORNIANS AND
OUT OF STATE RESIDENTS SEEKING
REPRODUCTIVE AND GENDER
AFFIRMING MEDICAL CARE IN
CALIFORNIA. WITH ME TODAY IS
TRACY ROSENBERG WITH OAKLAND
PRIVACY THE SPONSORS OF A B 14
63? YES UM, GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIR
AND MEMBERS. MY NAME IS TRACY
ROSENBERG. I'M WITH OAKLAND
PRIVACY, A CITIZEN'S COALITION
THAT ADVOCATES FOR THE
REGULATION OF SURVEILLANCE
TECHNOLOGIES AND EQUIPMENT. WITH
RESPECT FOR PRIVACY AND CIVIL
RIGHTS. IN 2019, THEN. EXCUSE ME
, THEN ASSEMBLY PRIVATE C CHAIR
, CHAU BROUGHT A B 17 82 TO
LIMIT THE RETENTION OF NON
EVIDENTIARY LICENSE PLATE SCANS
TO 60 DAYS WHEN WE SAY NON
EVIDENTIARY, WE MEAN THE 99.7%
OF THEM WITH NO CONNECTION TO
ANY CRIME OR CRIMINAL.
INVESTIGATION A B 17 82 PAST THE
JUDICIARY COMMITTEE, 9 TO 1
PRIVACY COMMITTEE, 8 TO 1 AND
THE ASSEMBLY FLOOR. 49 TO 18 WAS
HELD IN THE SENATE AFTER THE
JAIL. AC AUTHORIZED STATE AUDIT
OF AOL PR PROGRAMS. THAT AUDIT
WAS RELEASED IN 2020 SAID THE
PROGRAM IS CURRENTLY OPERATED
THREATENS THE PRIVACY RIGHTS OF
CALIFORNIA. AND THAT NON
CRIMINAL SCANS SHOULD BE
RETAINED FOR THE SHORTEST
POSSIBLE TIME. TWO QUICK POINTS
WE DID NOT PICK 30 DAYS OUT OF A
HAT AS ASSEMBLY MEMBER LOWENTHAL
STATES. THIS IS THE
RECOMMENDATION OF THE LARGEST
MANUFACTURER OF THE EQUIPMENT,
THEY SAY, AND I QUOTE IT'S A
PART OF OUR ETHICS DRIVEN UM.
INNOVATION WE RECOMMEND THAT ALL
DATA NOT ASSOCIATED WITH A CRIME
BE AUTOMATICALLY DELETED AFTER
30 DAYS, SO IT IS ON RECOVERABLE
ONE LAST POINT IN 2007, NEW
HAMPSHIRE WAS THE SECOND SAFEST
STATE IN THE COUNTRY. THEY
PASSED A LAW THAT YEAR MANDATING
THE. DESTRUCTION OF SCANS IT OR
NOT ON A HOT LIST INSTANTLY WAS
ACTUALLY THREE MINUTES IN
STATUTE. 16 YEARS LATER, NEW
HAMPSHIRE IS STILL THE SECOND
SAFEST STATE IN THE COUNTRY.
THEY'RE LAW DID NOT HAVE AN
ADVERSE IMPACT ON PUBLIC SAFETY
AND A B 14 63 WILL NOT HAVE AN
ADVERSE IMPACT ON PUBLIC SAFETY
. BUT IT WILL DO IS PROTECT THE
PRIVACY OF CALIFORNIA DRIVERS
AND THOSE WHO DRIVE INTO AND OUT
OF OUR STATE. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. DO WE HAVE AN OPPOSITION
WITNESS? THANK YOU, SIR. AND TWO
MINUTES. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR
AND MEMBERS COREY SALTILLO ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA STATE
SHERIFF'S ASSOCIATION IN
OPPOSITION TO A B 14 63.
ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES ACROSS THE
STATE AND NATION HAVE USED LPR
DATA TO SOLVE CRIMES AND
APPREHENDING CRIMINAL SUSPECTS
AND CONTINUE TO DO TO DO SO
TODAY. WHILE SOME CASES ARE
SOLVED QUICKLY AND PERHAPS, UM,
IMMEDIATELY AS THAT TERM WOULD
BE USED IN THE CONTEXT OF THIS
BILL. UM IT CAN ALSO BE. THESE
DATA CAN ALSO BE EXCEPTIONALLY
HELPFUL IN SOLVING CRIMES. UM
THAT MAY HAVE OCCURRED DEEPER IN
THE PAST AND TO SET A DATA
DESTRUCTION TIMELINE. UH SUCH AS
30 DAYS, UM, WILL SIGNIFICANTLY
HINDER THE USE OF A VALUABLE LAW
ENFORCEMENT TOOL BECAUSE WE
DON'T ALWAYS KNOW WHEN THE DATA
WILL PROVE USEFUL. IN OTHER
WORDS, WE DON'T ALWAYS KNOW WHEN
THOSE DATA THAT ARE COLLECTED
THOSE PICTURES OF LICENSE
PLATES. UM WILL BE CONNECTED
WITH THE POTENTIAL OF AN ALLEGED
CRIME. UM, TO BE CLEAR.
CALIFORNIA SHERIFF'S ENFORCEMENT
DON'T WANT TO SEE OUT OF STATE
ENTITIES USING LPR FOR THINGS
LIKE REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS LAWS OR
GENDER AFFIRMING CARE LAWS.
THAT'S NEVER BEEN OUR INTENT. UM
AND THAT'S DEMONSTRATED BY THE
FACT THAT A BILL THAT WE
SPONSORED LAST YEAR UM, HE'D BE
21 92 THAT WE AGREED TO LANGUAGE
. UM THAT WOULD HAVE MADE THAT
VERY CLEAR HEADED OUT OF STATE
ENTITY COULD NOT USE THE DATA
FOR THOSE TYPES OF PURPOSES, SO
WE UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS OF
THEIR PROPONENTS. BUT WE
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR NO
VOTE. THANK YOU. OKAY THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. IS THERE ANYONE IN
THE ROOM WISHING TO TESTIFY FOR
OR AGAINST A B 14 63? OKAY
SEEING NO ONE OPERATOR. CAN YOU
PLEASE OPEN UP THE PHONE LINES
FOR TESTIMONY FOR OR AGAINST A B
14 63? GIVE YOUR SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION. YOU MAY PRESS ONE
AND THEN ZERO. AGAIN THAT IS ONE
AND THEN ZERO SUPPORTER
OPPOSITION. WE DO HAVE A FEW
COMING IN ONE MOMENT. THIS IS
FOR A B ONE NOTE FOR 63.
THANK YOU. WE WILL GO TO LINE
NUMBER SEVEN. YOUR LINE IS OPEN.
HI JARI WITH TREASON, TECHIE
STRONG SUPPORT OF A B 14 63.
THANK YOU AND WE'LL GO TO LINE
18. YOUR LINE IS OPEN. HELLO MY
NAME IS J P MASSER PERCENT.
MCGEE SPALDING NEIGHBORS IN
ACTION IN THE BAY AREA, AND I AM
IN TOTAL SUPPORT OF THIS BILL.
UH ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT
THE CHP HAS A 60 DAY RETENTION
PERIOD. SO THE ARGUMENTS OF THE
SHERIFF'S ASSOCIATION DON'T
REALLY MAKE A LOT OF SENSE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU AND WE HAVE
NO FURTHER SUPPORTER OPPOSITION
QUÊ AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU GO
TO THE COMMITTEE TO SEE IF
ANYBODY HAS COMMENTS OR
QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. I MEAN,
HONESTLY, A LOT OF THE MOST
IMPORTANT ISSUES AROUND THIS
BILL. ARE PROBABLY BEST HANDLED
BY THE PRIVACY COMMITTEE AND
ALSO BY PUBLIC SAFETY WHERE IT'S
NOT GOING. THE ONLY REASON IT'S
HERE IS BECAUSE THIS IS IN THE
VEHICLE CODE. UM BUT I DO
UNDERSTAND THE DESIRE TO PROTECT
PEOPLE'S PRIVACY. MAKE SURE THAT
DATA THAT MIGHT BE COLLECTED BY
OUT OF STATE, UH, LAW
ENFORCEMENT IS THAT WE MAKE SURE
THAT THAT THAT ABSOLUTELY CAN'T
HAPPEN AS THEY TRIED TO
CRIMINALIZE A LOT OF OUR BASIC
CIVIL RIGHTS AND DO UNDERSTAND
THE CONCERNS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT
AS WELL. AND I THINK THAT
PRIVACY IS WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO
HAVE THEIR MOST ROBUST
DISCUSSION. OVER THIS BILL. I
WILL SUPPORT IT TODAY TO WATCH
THE CONVERSATION. MOVE FORWARD.
DO YOU HAVE ANY CLOSING
COMMENTS? THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR
, UM, TO REITERATE A B 14 63 IS
A MORE MODEST APPROACH THAN
PREVIOUS EFFORTS. IT WILL ENSURE
THAT AN INDIVIDUAL'S RIGHT TO
PRIVACY IS UPHELD FOR THOSE
SEEKING A SAFE REFUGE FROM
OPPRESSIVE REPRODUCTIVE AND ANTI
LGBT Q LAWS, AND THAT IS SAFE TO
COME TO CALIFORNIA TO SEEK OUT
THE CARE. THEY NEED WITHOUT
FEAR. I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST
YOUR I VOTE. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH, AND I DO
APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE
COMMITTEE'S AMENDMENTS AND WHEN
WE HAVE A QUORUM HOPEFULLY, SOON
WE'LL BE ABLE TO TAKE A VOTE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY WE
DON'T HAVE ANY AUTHORS. SO I'M
GOING TO TAKE MY TWO BILLS OR AT
LEAST ONE OF THEM UNTIL WE HAVE
AN AUTHOR. IF YOU ARE SOMEONE
WHO HAS A BUILT IN
TRANSPORTATION TODAY, IF YOU
COME, YOU WILL GET TO DO YOUR
BILL. I'M GOING TO PASS THE
GALLUP GAVEL TO ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
CARILLO BECAUSE HE'S CLOSE. YEP.
OKAY WE DO HAVE ANOTHER AUTHOR
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S OF HER WELCOME.
OKAY AND WE DO HAVE A QUORUM. SO
BEFORE YOU BEGIN, I'D LIKE TO
TAKE ROLL. TO ESTABLISH A
QUORUM. FRIEDMAN HERE. FRIEDMAN
HERE, FONG BERMAN. FROM IN HERE.
CARILLO RIO HERE, DAVIES GIBSON.
HEART JACKSON JACKSON HERE,
KALRA LOWENTHAL. LOWENTHAL HERE
WHEN? WHEN? HERE SANCHEZ INCHES
HERE. WALLACE BOARD WICKS. WIGS
HERE. WE HAVE A QUORUM. YOU MAY
PROCEED WHEN YOU'RE READY. CHAIR
AND MEMBERS. THANK YOU SO MUCH
FOR ALLOWING ME THE OPPORTUNITY
TO PRESENT A B 13 35 TODAY. I'D
LIKE TO START BY THANKING THE
COMMITTEE STAFF FOR THEIR HARD
WORK. WE'VE ALSO BEEN WORKING
WITH THE STAFF AND THE BUILDING
INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION ON SOME
AMENDMENTS THAT WILL BE
INTRODUCED AT A LATER TIME THAT
I BELIEVE WILL HOPEFULLY ADDRESS
THEIR CONCERNS. AS YOU MAY
ALREADY KNOW THIS SUSTAINABLE
COMMUNITY STRATEGIES PROGRAM, OR
SCS IS A LOCAL PLANNING PROCESS
THAT ENCOURAGES MORE HOUSING
NEAR TRANSIT TO REDUCE OUR
RELIANCE ON CARS. IT'S A BILL
THAT I'M PROUD TO HAVE WORKED
ON. WHEN I WAS AT THE CALIBER,
THEN THE CALIFORNIA LEAGUE OF
CONSERVATION VOTERS NOW
CALIFORNIA BY MOTOR VOTERS, A B
13 35 STRENGTHENS THE C S
PROGRAM. BY ALIGNING THE PROGRAM
WITH THE REGIONAL HOUSING NEEDS
ALLOCATION OR ARENA PROCESS.
RINA IS A CRITICAL PLANNING
PROCESS THAT IS REQUIRED OF
REGIONAL AGENCIES, AND IT'S USED
TO DETERMINE AND PLAN FOR THEIR
LOCAL HOUSING NEEDS. CURRENTLY
THE ASSUMPTIONS AND INFORMATION
USED TO DEVELOP THE SCS ARE
DIFFERENT FROM THE ASSUMPTIONS
THAT CITIES AND COUNTIES USE FOR
THE ARENA PROCESS. AS A RESULT,
THIS DISCREPANCY HAS LED TO AN
UNDERESTIMATION OF HOUSING NEEDS
FOR CERTAIN AREAS AND ALONG
TRANSIT. MAYBE 13 35 ENSURES
THAT THE SAME ASSUMPTIONS ARE
USED FOR THE SCS AND ARENA
PROCESSES. THIS BILL WILL MAKE
IT EASIER FOR CITIES AND
COUNTIES TO CREATE MORE HOUSING
NEAR TRANSIT AND MEET THEIR
SUSTAINABILITY GOALS. MAYBE 13
35 WILL ALSO RESULT IN VALUABLE
INFORMATION ABOUT THE EFFICACY
OF THE SCS PROGRAM AND CREATES
TRANSPARENCY AROUND LOCAL
PROGRESS. TOWARDS SUSTAINABLE
DEVELOPMENT WITH ME TODAY IS AMY
HEINZ SHOT SHAKE ON BEHALF OF
ABUNDANT HOUSING L, A THE
SPONSOR OF THE BILL TO PROVIDE
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND
ASSIST WITH QUESTIONS. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. HONORABLE CHAIR
FRIEDMAN AND ESTEEMED MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS AMY HÌNH SHAIKH AND
I'M REPRESENTING ABUNDANT
HOUSING L. A THE SPONSORS OF
ASSEMBLY BILL 1335 ABUNDANT
HOUSING L A BELIEVES IN HOUSING
FOR ALL GUIDED BY THE VALUES OF
RACIAL JUSTICE AND EQUITY. WE
BELIEVE THAT CALIFORNIA CAN
REALIZE THIS DREAM THROUGH FOUR
PILLARS OR APPROACHES, WHICH ARE
ONE LEGALIZING MORE HOMES. TO
MAKING HOMES EASIER TO BUILD
THREE FUNDING, AFFORDABLE
HOUSING AND FOR STRENGTHENING
RENTER'S RIGHTS. A B 1335 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S EVER WAS BORN
FROM THE PURSUIT OF PILLAR
NUMBER TWO, MAKING HOMES EASIER
TO BUILD. HIGH HOUSING COSTS ARE
IMPACTING EACH AND EVERY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S CONSTITUENCIES
. SIMILARLY THE CLIMATE CRISIS
IS INESCAPABLE FROM ANY CORNER
OF OUR STATE. IN FACT, 38% OF
CALIFORNIA'S GREENHOUSE GAS
EMISSIONS COME FROM
TRANSPORTATION. OUR INCREDIBLY
LONG COMMUTES ARE TO BLAME,
ATTEMPTING TO ADDRESS THIS
PROBLEM AS BEASTS. 3725 FROM
2008 CREATED A REGIONAL LAND USE
PLANNING PROCESS CALLED THE
SUSTAINABLE COMMUNITIES STRATEGY
, WHICH IS PART OF THE REGIONAL
TRANSPORTATION PLAN. THIS IS
COMMONLY REFERRED TO AS THE RTP
S. YES. MAYBE 1335 IS ALSO KNOWN
AS THE STRENGTHENING SUSTAINABLE
COMMUNITY STRATEGIES ACT. THERE
ARE TWO PROCESSES TO PLAN FOR
HOUSING AT THE REGIONAL LEVEL,
THE REGIONAL HOUSING NEEDS
ASSESSMENT AND THE RTP SCS SO AS
MR ZUBER HAD ALREADY EXPLAINED,
THESE TWO PROCESSES ARE
FREQUENTLY MISALIGNED. AND, IN
FACT, IN 2020, THE LACK OF
ALIGNMENT CAUSED LOGISTICAL
CHALLENGES AT SCAG FOR THE
ADOPTION OF THE ARENA, WHICH
ULTIMATELY CAUSED A SIX MONTH
DELAY IN THE FINALIZATION OF THE
ARENA NUMBERS AND HALVED THE
AMOUNT OF TÌM SOUTHERN
CALIFORNIA CITIES. HAD TO
COMPLETE THEIR HOUSING ELEMENTS
. THIS WAS SUCH A DISRUPTION
LOCALLY THAT THE STATE FELT
COMPELLED TO EXTEND THE DEADLINE
FOR A COMPLAINT. HOUSING ELEMENT
BY PASSING SB 1 97 IN 2022.
ASSEMBLY BILL 1335 ADDRESSES TWO
ASPECTS OF THIS PROBLEM. IT
RECOMMENDS AN ALIGNMENT PROCESS
FOR THE ARENA AND THE SCS WHILE
MAINTAINING ALIGNMENT WITH THE
SCS IS VOLUNTARY. AND
ADDITIONALLY, IT REQUIRES THAT
LOCAL GOVERNMENTS REPORT ON WHAT
PROGRESS THEY ARE MAKING TOWARDS
THE CS IN THEIR GENERAL PLAN.
ANNUAL PROGRESS REPORT WILL
SORRY IF YOU COULD FINISH UP
YOUR PAST THE TWO MINUTES SURE
ENABLE LOCAL CITIZENS WHO ARE
INTERESTED IN THE TOPIC TO
ENGAGE AND WE VERY RESPECTFULLY
REQUEST YOUR VOTE. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IS THERE
ANYBODY IN THE ROOM WHO WISHES
TO TESTIFY AND SUPPORT OF THIS
BILL AND SUPPORT WE COME UP TO
THE MIC. ONE MOMENT IS THE
MICROPHONE ON CAN'T HEAR IT
HERE. OKAY? HI BRIAN, STOP ON ON
BEHALF OF UPPER AND SUPPORT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALRIGHT.
SEEING NOBODY ELSE IS C B A HERE
ANY OF THE OTHER REGISTERED
WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION. I DO
NOT SEE THEM HERE. SO IF THERE'S
ANYONE IN THE ROOM WISHING TO
TESTIFY AN OPPOSITION YOU MAY
COME TO THE MICROPHONE. NOT
OPPOSITION SO MUCH AS CONCERNED
BILL HIGGINS WITH THE CALIFORNIA
ASSOCIATION OF COUNCILS OF
GOVERNMENTS. THE ISSUES THAT
SCAG WERE ANNUNCIATED INTO OUR
KNOWLEDGE. THAT'S THE ONLY, UM,
CASE OF THE INCIDENTS HAPPENING.
AND THE ARENA IS ALREADY
INCORPORATED INTO THE SCS. AND
IT'S AN 8 TO 10 YEAR PROCESS AND
THE RTP IS A 20 YEAR PROCESS, SO
THERE ARE REASONS FOR DIFFERENCE
. WE'RE IN CONTACT WITH THE
AUTHOR'S FOLKS WE'RE GOING TO.
WE HAVE OUR OWN SOLUTIONS WILL
BE WORKING WITH IT, BUT IN ITS
CURRENT FORM WE WOULD OPPOSE.
OKAY. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN
OPPOSITION IN THE ROOM? OKAY
OPERATOR. IF YOU COULD PLEASE
OPEN THE PHONE LINES FOR
TESTIMONY FOR AND AGAINST A B 13
35. GIFT SUPPORTER OPPOSITION,
YOU MAY PRESS ONE AND THEN ZERO.
AGAIN THAT IS ONE AND THEN ZERO
IN SUPPORT OF OPPOSITION. OF A B
13 35. AND WE DO HAVE ONE IN Q
ONE MOMENT WITH THAT MY NUMBER
WE WILL GO TO LINE 21. YOUR LINE
IS OPEN. MARK'S BOOK CEVICHE
FROM STREETS, QUALCOMM AND
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU,
AND WE HAVE NO FURTHER SUPPORTER
OPPOSITION IN Q. THANK YOU. I'LL
GO TO THE COMMITTEE IF ANYBODY
HAS ANY QUESTIONS YES, MR I DO.
BUT BEFORE I ASK MY QUESTION, I
WANT TO THANK ABUNDANT HOUSING
AWAY FOR BEING SELECTIVE DURING
THE ARENA ALLOCATION NUMBER
THROUGH SCAG. I WAS PART OF THE
EC HD AND YOU GUYS WERE VERY
ACTIVE IN THAT PROCESS. THANK
YOU. THEY DID I HEAR YOU SAY
THAT THIS WOULD ALSO HELP
LEGALIZED EXISTING HOMES. 16
HOUSING UNITS. UM THAT THAT IS A
GOAL OF ABUNDANT HOUSING L A.
BUT THEY HAVE FOUR PILLARS, AND
THIS IS ACTUALLY ADDRESSING THE
PILLAR TO MAKE HOMES EASIER TO
BUILD. UNFORTUNATELY NOT THE
OTHER PILLARS. THANKS FOR
CLARIFYING THAT. THAT'S ALL I'VE
HAD. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
THANK YOU ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY
WELL, I'LL BE SUPPORTING THE
BILL. TODAY I TRUST THAT YOU
WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE
OPPOSITION TO ADDRESS THEIR
CONCERNS. WOULD YOU LIKE TO
CLOSE? JUST LOOK FORWARD TO
WORKING WITH THE OPPOSITION TO
ADDRESS THEIR CONCERNS. I THINK
YOU KNOW OUR GOALS, WHICH IS TO
MAKE BOTH THE SCS AND ARENA
PROCESSES ARE ALIGNED. AND I
JUST THANK YOU ALL AND THANK THE
STAFF AGAIN AND REQUEST DENIED A
VOTE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE
HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE. THE
BILL IS DO YOU PASS AND RE
REFERRED TO A COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. FRIEDMAN
FRIEDMAN, I FANG BERMAN BERMAN I
CARILLO VÚI DAVIES GIBSON.
GIBSON I HEART ART I JACKSON
JACKSON. I CHOLERA, CHOLERA I
LOWENTHAL AND THOUGHT I WIN.
WHEN I SANCHEZ SANCHEZ KNOW
WALLACE. FORD WICKS. WICKS. AYE.
10 TO 1. THAT BILL IS OUT. THANK
YOU. ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S TING. YOU
ARE HERE FOR A B 12 67. YOU CAN
PROCEED WHEN YOU ARE READY. AND
IF THEY'RE WITNESSES IN FAVOR OR
OPPOSED TO THE PRIMARY WITNESSES
WHO REGISTERED YOU'RE WELCOME TO
COME TO THE DIOCESE. THANK YOU,
MADAM CHAIR HERE TO PRESENT A B
12 67 1ST LET ME THANK YOU AND
THE COMMITTEE FOR ALL THEIR HELP
ON THIS BILL AND BRINGING IT
BACK AGAIN THIS YEAR, MAYBE 12
67 PROVIDES AN ADDITIONAL
INCENTIVE TO DRIVERS WHO USE THE
MOST GASOLINE EXPEDITING THE
SWITCH TO ZERO EMISSION VEHICLES
, THE TRANSPORTATION SECTOR AS
WE'RE AS WE'RE ALL AWARE
ACCOUNTS FOR ABOUT 40% OF
GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS AND 28%
OF THAT COMES FROM LIGHT DUTY
VEHICLES, WHICH IS ABOUT 80% OF
THAT, 40% WE KNOW THAT
CALIFORNIA HAS A VARIETY OF
INCENTIVE PROGRAMS, BUT
UNFORTUNATELY WE HAVEN'T DONE A
GOOD ENOUGH JOB REALLY WORKING
TO INCENTIVIZE WORKING FAMILIES,
ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO ARE OUR
BIGGEST SUPER COMMUTERS. SO
WE'RE ASKING THE CALIFORNIA AIR
RESOURCES BOARD TO DO IS TO
CREATE AN ADDITIONAL INCENTIVE
AWARD FOR GASOLINE, SUPER
COMMUTERS TARGETING OUR GASOLINE
CONSUMERS IN THE STATE. IT ALSO
WOULD REQUIRE CARB TO MEASURE
THE EMISSIONS REDUCTIONS
ACHIEVED BY THIS NEWS XEV
INCENTIVE PROGRAM AS WE'VE MADE
SIGNIFICANT PROGRESS IN MOVING
TOWARDS ELECTRIC VEHICLE
ADOPTION WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IS
THOSE WHO ARE USING THE MOST
GASOLINE AND THOSE WHO ARE
FINDING IT THE MOST DIFFICULT TO
AFFORD ELECTRIC VEHICLES AREN'T
LEFT BEHIND THIS ADDITIONAL
INCENTIVE WOULD REALLY HELP THAT
ANALYSIS FROM CULTURAL WHO IS MY
WITNESS FOUND THAT SUPER USERS
MAKING LESS THAN $50,000 PER
YEAR SPEND ON AVERAGE 23% OF
THEIR INCOME ON FUEL, SO THIS IS
OBVIOUSLY VERY IMPORTANT SEGMENT
OF OUR POPULATION TO ASSIST. SO
WITH THAT TURNOVER, TRY WITNESS.
THANK YOU. HI THANK YOU.
JENELLE, LONDON WITH CULTURA. UM
BY HELPING LOWER INCOME GASOLINE
. SUPER USERS SWITCHED TO E. V S
. THIS BILL MAXIMIZES THE IMPACT
OF E V S. AND IT HELPS THE
GASOLINE BURDENED FAMILIES WHO
NEED IT. THE MOST SUPER USERS
ARE GENERALLY STUCK USING A LOT
OF GASOLINE. TYPICALLY THEY'RE
LIVING WHERE HOUSING IS
AFFORDABLE, BUT THEY'RE THEY'VE
GOT A LONG COMMUTE TO WHERE THE
JOBS ARE LIKE LOS BANOS, A CITY
WITH 6800 SUPER USERS. 80 MILES
FROM SAN JOSE. OR THEY'RE
DRIVING FOR THEIR WORK LIKE
CONTRACTORS AND LANDSCAPERS WHO
ARE DRIVING TO VARIOUS JOB SITES
EACH DAY. THE MAJORITY OF SUPER
USERS ARE BELOW THE MEDIAN
HOUSEHOLD INCOME SPENDING ON
AVERAGE 15% OF HOUSEHOLD INCOME
ON GASOLINE IS A CRUSHING BURDEN
ALREADY FOR MANY OF THEM WHEN
YOU HAVE, LIKE A GAS PRICE SPIKE
LIKE WE HAD IN THIS SUMMER. OR
AN UNEXPECTED CAR REPAIR THAT
CAN THROW THEM INTO A FINANCIAL
TAILSPIN. HELPING THESE FOLKS
GET INTO TVS WOULD SHIFT THAT
SPENDING TWO MORE RELIABLE, MORE
PREDICTABLE EVERY CAR PAYMENTS
AND ELECTRICITY. AND BECAUSE
SUPER USERS ARE ALREADY SPENDING
ON AVERAGE $800 A MONTH ON FUEL
AND MAINTENANCE, UM MOST WOULD
END UP HAVING A CHANCE TO SAVE
ON TOTAL MONTHLY COSTS BY
SWITCHING TO AN E V EVEN WITH A
HIRE CAR PAYMENT. BUT THEY STILL
NEED THE BOOST OF AN INCENTIVE
AND TARGETED OUTREACH TO GET
INTO THE E V, WHICH THIS BILL
WOULD PROVIDE, AND THE BILL IS
ALSO A WIN FOR CLIMATE HELPING
SUPER SUPER USERS SWITCHED TO E.
V. S CUTS GASOLINE USE FASTER,
UM CARB IN ITS LATEST SCOPING
PLAN IS CALLING FOR A 50% CUT IN
GASOLINE USE BY 2030 TO MEET THE
REQUIREMENTS OF SB 3 50. BUT
ENERGY COMMISSION STAFF
FORECASTS WERE ONLY ON TRACK TO
CUT GASOLINE USE 10% BY THEN. SO
THIS WOULD WOULD DO THAT FASTER.
AND WITH FEWER TOTAL LEVI S. IN
FACT, IF THE BIGGEST GASOLINE
USERS SWITCH TO EVE'S FIRST WE
WOULD NEED NINE MILLION EBS ON
CALIFORNIA'S ROADS TO CUT
GASOLINE USE IN HALF. UM IF THEY
GO LAST. IF THE SUPER USERS GO
LAST, IT WOULD TAKE 24 MILLION
TVS. THAT'S OVER TWO MINUTES.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU
SO MUCH. ANYONE ELSE WHO'S HERE
TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OF THE
BILL? DILMA GAVIN COALITION FOR
CLEAN AIR AND SUPPORT. TOM KNOX
VALLEY CLEAN AIR NOW AND
SUPPORT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE
DON'T HAVE ANY WITNESSES ON FILE
AND OPPOSITION. IS THERE ANYBODY
IN THE ROOM WISHING TO TESTIFY
IN OPPOSITION? OKAY SEE NONE.
OPERATOR CAN YOU PLEASE OPEN THE
PHONE LINES FOR A B 12 67? THANK
YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORTER
OPPOSITION. YOU MAY PRESS ONE
AND THEN ZERO. AGAIN THAT IS ONE
AND THEN ZERO FRIEND, SUPPORTER
OPPOSITION. HENRY HAVE DONE ON
CUE AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU WITH
THAT WE'LL GO BACK TO THE READY.
I LOVE HOW NOT TALKATIVE
EVERYTHING. VERY UNUSUAL. UM I
AM SUPPORTING THE BILL TODAY. AS
YOU KNOW, I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE
WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO WITH
THE BILL AND CERTAINLY HAVING
THAT TV TRANSITIONS VERY
IMPORTANT. I DO HAVE SOME
CONCERNS. UM I WOULD LOVE FOR
THERE TO BE MORE OF A WAY TO
FOCUS THIS ON VEHICLES THAT
REALLY ARE NECESSARY FOR PEOPLE
TO USE FOR WORK. MY CONCERN IS
THAT WE ARE SORT OF PUSHING
PEOPLE WHO MIGHT OTHERWISE USE
TRANSIT AND OTHER MORE
SUSTAINABLE MEANS TO SWITCH OVER
TO CONTINUE TO DRIVE AND SORT OF
TAKING AWAY PART OF THAT
INCENTIVE, AND ALSO FREEING
PEOPLE UP TO SORT OF HAVE LONGER
AND LONGER COMMUTES, AND THERE'S
NO WAY TO FILTER OUT PEOPLE WHO
JUST WANT TO GO AND DRIVE AROUND
ON THE WEEKENDS AND OUR HIGH GAS
USERS BECAUSE THEY LOVE TO GO ON
A LONG, LEISURELY DRIVES, SO
IT'S A BIT OF A BLUNT TOOL, BUT
I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE TRYING
TO GET AT AND YOU KNOW, THE CARB
REPORT DOES NOT TALK ABOUT A
REDUCTION IN GAS. IT TALKS ABOUT
A REDUCTION IN VM T. AND THERE
IS A DIFFERENCE IN THE APPROACH
WITH THIS BILL THAT SAID I WILL
SUPPORT IT TODAY, AND I JUST
HOPE THAT YOU DO KEEP SOME OF
THAT IN MIND. WOULD YOU LIKE TO
CLOSE THAT VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE
YOUR COMMENTS AND YOUR THOUGHTS?
I THINK WE ARE. I'M GOING TO
KEEP TRYING TO GET TO THE CRUX
OF YOUR PARTICULAR ISSUE, BUT
APPRECIATE YOU KNOW THE
COMMITTEE'S WORK YOUR SUPPORT
TODAY AND RESPECT FOR US FIVE
FT. ON A B 12 67 THANK YOU WITH
THAT WE'LL TAKE A ROLL. CALL A B
12 67. THE MOTION IS DO PASS AND
WE REFER TO COMMITTEE ON NATURAL
RESOURCES, FRIEDMAN HI FRIEDMAN
. I FANG BERMAN, CARILLO VÚI
DAVIES BABIES I GIBSON GIBSON I
HEART ART I JACKSON JACKSON I
CHOLERA. OVER I LOWENTHAL ONE
THOUGHT I WIN. WHEN I SANCHEZ
SAYS, I WALLACE WALLACE. I WARD
WICKS. I HAVE 13. 13 THE BILL IS
OUT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR
KALRA.
THANK YOU, MADAM. CHAIR AND
MEMBERS MAYBE 10 8 TO PROHIBIT
POVERTY TOES. WHEN A VEHICLE IS
TOLD AS A DEBT COLLECTION
MECHANISM DUE TO UNPAID PARKING
TICKETS. THIS BILL WOULD ALSO
PROHIBIT IMMOBILIZING THE
VEHICLE IN THIS CASE OR SENDING
JUST ONE UNPAID PARKING TICKET
TO THE DMV BIÂU PLACE A HOLD ON
THE DRIVER'S REGISTRATION
RENEWAL. LASTLY THE BILL WOULD
MAKE CHANGES IN THE PARKING
TICKET PAYMENT PLAN PROGRAM
GUIDELINES TO MAKE IT MORE
WORKABLE FOR THE INCOME
CALIFORNIANS, THUS ENCOURAGING
MORE PAYMENT OF ACCRUED TICKETS.
UNLIKE A PREVIOUS SIMILAR BILL
FROM THE CURRENT CITY ATTORNEY
OF SAN FRANCISCO. FORMER
COLLEAGUE DAVID CHOOSE BETWEEN
19. MAYBE 10 82. THERE'S NOT
INCLUDING ANY CHANGES TO THE 72
HOUR RULE. THIS MEANS CITIES
WILL STILL HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO
TOW VEHICLES THAT HAVE BEEN IDLE
FOR 72 HOURS OR MORE TO ADDRESS
SITUATIONS LIKE ABANDONED
VEHICLES. CITIES WERE ALSO STILL
HAVE USUAL DEBT COLLECTION
METHODS, SUCH AS REFERRAL TO A
COLLECTION AGENT AND CREDIT
REPORTING AGENCIES. FURTHERMORE
FOR DEBT AMOUNTS OVER $400, A
CITY CAN ENTER CIVIL JUDGMENT
AGAINST A PERSON AND USE THOSE
ORDINARY MEASURES TO COLLECT THE
DEBT, SUCH AS BANK LEVIES AND
WAGE GARNISHMENT. AND THEY CAN
ENLIST THE FRANCHISE TAX BOARD
TO HELP THEM COLLECT THROUGH
INTERCEPTIONS. ATTACKS FUNDS
LOTTERY WINNINGS ANYWAY THAT
SOMEONE MAY BEGINNING RESOURCES
FROM THE STATE TO ENSURE THAT
THEIR UNPAID DEBTS ARE PAID.
THAT SAID, WE FULLY INTEND TO
WORK WITH THE LEAGUE OF CITIES
AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS TO ENSURE
THERE ARE NO SIGNIFICANT
UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES.
CALIFORNIA HAS BEEN A NATIONAL
LEADER IN ENDING POLICIES THAT
DISPROPORTIONATELY PUNISH PEOPLE
EXPERIENCING POVERTY,
RECOGNIZING THAT THESE LAWS DO
NOT MAKE INDIVIDUALS MORE LIKELY
TO PAY BUT INSTEAD TRAPPED THEM
IN DEBT. VEHICLE TOES AND THE
MOBILIZATION RESULT IN
SNOWBALLING CONSEQUENCES THAT
THREATEN PEOPLE'S STABILITY AND
WELL BEING AS WELL AS UNDERMINE
OUR STATE'S ECONOMIC EQUITY
GOALS. IT IS AN HONOR REGION
REASONABLY HARSH PUNISHMENT THAT
DOES NOT HELP PUBLIC SAFETY OR
HELP CITIES COLLECT UNPAID FEES.
PROVIDE SUPPORTING TESTIMONIES.
MARTHA ROBERTS, WHO HAS
PERSONALLY EXPERIENCED THE LOSS
OF A VEHICLE DUE TO POVERTY TO
PRACTICES IN MARIN, AND REBECCA
MILLER, SENIOR LITIGATOR FOR
WESTERN CENTER ON LAW AND
POVERTY. SPONSOR OF THE BILL.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I JUST
WANT TO REMIND ALL THE WITNESSES
NOT NOT JUST NOW, BUT FOR THE
WHOLE HEARING THAT IT'S TWO
MINUTES AND AFTER THAT, WE WILL
STOP YOU FROM SPEAKING. OKAY,
THANK YOU. HI GOOD. UM GOOD
AFTERNOON. THANK YOU. HONORABLE
COMMUNITY MEMBERS. WESTERN
CENTER IS CO SPONSORING MAYBE 10
82. BECAUSE OUR COALITION HAS
SEEN THE DIRECT HARM OF DEBT
TOES ON, FOR EXAMPLE, PEOPLE
FLEEING INTIMATE PARTNER
VIOLENCE WHO NEED THEIR CARS FOR
SAFETY, BUT WHEN THEIR VEHICLES
ARE TOWED, OFTEN BASED ON
TICKETS INCURRED BY THEIR ABUSER
FOR LOW WAGE WORKERS WHO CAN'T
GET TO WORK WITHOUT A CAR, AND
THEREFORE A TOE MAKES IT EVEN
HARDER TO PAY THE TICKET. FOR
STUDENTS AND PARENTS WHO CAN'T
GET TO SCHOOL WITHOUT A CAR AND
FOR OLDER CALIFORNIANS WHO CAN'T
GO TO MEDICAL APPOINTMENTS
WITHOUT A VEHICLE. A CAR IS
OFTEN A FAMILY'S ONLY ASSET AND
TAKING IT AND SELLING IT OVER
WHAT CAN BE SOMETIMES JUST ONE
PARKING TICKET IS NOT IN KEEPING
WITH CALIFORNIA'S VALUES. TOWING
IS ALSO NOT COST EFFECTIVE. WE
ISSUED A REPORT WITH OUR
ADVOCACY PARTNERS CALLED TOAD
INTO DEBT, SHOWING THAT DEBT
TOES COST CITIES MORE THAN THEY
COLLECT. STUDIES ALSO SHOW THAT
CITIES CAN ACTUALLY COLLECT MORE
MONEY WHEN THEY ALLOW FEES AND
FINES TO BE PAID OVER TIME.
WHICH IS WHY MAKING REFORMS TO
THE PARKING TICKET PAYMENT PLANS
SO THEY ARE MORE ACCESSIBLE IS
VERY IMPORTANT. CØNG SOLELY FOR
PARKING TICKET DEBT IS ALSO
LIKELY UNCONSTITUTIONAL. A
NUMBER OF COURTS HAVE HELD THAT
THE FOURTH AMENDMENT DOESN'T
ALLOW WARRANTLESS COMMUNITY
CARETAKING TOES UNLESS THERE IS
A PUBLIC SAFETY SYSTEM. CONCERN
AND DEBT COLLECTION IS NOT ABOUT
PUBLIC SAFETY. WE URGE THIS
COMMITTEE'S I VOTE ON THIS
COMMON SENSE POLICY CHANGE. GOOD
AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR AND
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. MY NAME IS
MARTHA ROBERTS AND I'M SPEAKING
IN SUPPORT OF A B 10 82. MY CAR
BEING TOWED LAST DECEMBER WENT
BEYOND EXTREME HARDSHIP. IT MADE
EVEN THE BASICS OF HUMAN
SUBSISTENCE. TRULY IMPOSSIBLE.
I'M A 71 YEAR OLD WOMAN LIVING
ON A LOW INCOME AND HAVE BEEN
COPING SINCE CHILDHOOD WITH PTSD
AND A D D. MORE RECENTLY, I'VE
BEEN THROUGH ONE OF THE ROUGHEST
PATCHES IN 50 YEARS OF ADULT
LIFE. MY BROTHER WAS DIAGNOSED
WITH LATE STAGE CANCER, AND I
LOST TWO OF MY CLOSEST LOVED
ONES DURING THE PANDEMIC. DURING
THIS TIME, I ALSO HAD TO FIND
HOUSING AND MOVE. THE APARTMENT
I FOUND IS ON A STEEP HILL. SO
THE LAYER THAT MADE IT ALL
UNBEARABLE WAS BEING FACED WITH
THE IMPOSSIBLE DECISION WHETHER
TO RISK DRIVING MY UNREGISTERED
CAR AND GET TOWED OR TO NOT GO
TO MEDICAL APPOINTMENTS AND BUY
GROCERIES. AT THE TIME I HAD
RECEIVED SOME PARKING AND ONE
TRAFFIC TICKET THAT I COULD NOT
AFFORD TO PAY. VERY QUICKLY. THE
TICKETS BLEW UP TO $2400. I
COULD NOT AFFORD BOTH THE
TICKETS AND REGISTRATION, SO I
JUST PAID THE REGISTRATION AND
SMOG. BUT THE D. M V WOULD NOT
GIVE ME THE REGISTRATION STICKER
BECAUSE OF MY TICKETS. SO I
CONTINUED IN A CIRCULAR BIND OF
NEEDING TO DRIVE BUT NOT WANTING
TO RISK IT UNTIL MY CAR WAS
TOWED TWICE. BOTH TIMES LEFT ME
ON THE EDGE OF DESTITUTION,
POTENTIALLY HOMELESS AND
APPLYING FOR HELP TO PAY MY
UTILITIES. AFTER THE SECOND TIME
MY CAR WAS TOWED. I FINALLY HAD
A NERVOUS BREAKDOWN. COMING
AFTER MOVING AND THE DEATHS OF
MY LOVED ONES AND THE STRESS OF
HAVING AN UNREGISTERED CAR. IT
WAS ALL TOO MUCH. PLEASE STOP
THESE TRAUMATIC AND
COUNTERPRODUCTIVE TOES. I
BESEECH YOU PLEASE VOTE FOR THIS
BILL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IS
THERE ANYBODY IN THE HEARING
ROOM WISHING TO TESTIFY AND
SUPPORT OF A B 10 82 UP, MIKE?
DAN AGRO DHARMA ON BEHALF OF
LAWYERS COMMITTEE FOR CIVIL
RIGHTS, PROUD CO SPONSOR AND
SUPPORT GOOD AFTERNOON. PATRICE
BARRY, REPRESENTING IN POVERTY
IN CALIFORNIA, ALSO KNOWN AS
EPIC HERE TO SUPPORT AS A CO
SPONSOR. A B 1082. THANK YOU.
HI. EVAN MINTON WITH VOICES FOR
PROGRESS IN STRONG SUPPORT. GOOD
AFTERNOON, CYNTHIA CASTILLO ON
BEHALF OF WESTERN CENTER ON LAW
AND POVERTY AND SUPPORT AND A
PROUD SPONSOR ALSO WANT TO
REGISTER SUPPORT ON BEHALF OF
STU A. C L U CALIFORNIA ACTION
AND TECH EQUITY COLLABORATIVE.
THANKS SO MUCH. I THINK WE DO
HAVE REGISTERED OPPOSITION
WITNESSES. IF SO, IF YOU CAN
COME UP TO THE PODIUM.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS MATTHEW SILBERLING ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
MOBILITY AND PARKING
ASSOCIATION. WE UNDERSTAND THE
AUTHOR'S INTENT AND APPLAUD HIS
GOAL OF ELIMINATING THE
CONSEQUENCES. OF THE PERSON
ACCUMULATING TOO MANY UNPAID
PARKING TICKETS WERE ALL ON THE
SAME PAGE THERE. HOWEVER CMP AS
OPPOSED TO MAYBE 10 82, WHICH
WOULD LARGELY ELIMINATE MOST, IF
NOT ALL, OF THE VIABLE TOOLS
THAT LOCAL GOVERNMENTS NEED TO
ENFORCE PARKING, INCLUDING THE
OPTION TO REQUEST DMV.
THE ABILITY FOR LOCAL AGENCIES
TO BOOT OR TOW, A VEHICLE THAT
IS ACCUMULATED NUMEROUS UNPAID
TICKETS. IRONICALLY MANDATING
THAT'LL HOLD ON A DRIVER'S DMV
.
WHO HAVE NO INCENTIVE TO PAY FOR
PARKING. IF THERE'S NO
ENFORCEABLE PENALTY AND TELL YOU
ACCUMULATED SIX TICKETS THERE.
WE WORKED DILIGENTLY WITH OUR
COMMUNITIES. AND OUR
STAKEHOLDERS OVER THE YEARS TO
ASSIST INDIVIDUALS WITH
ADDRESSING THEIR AMOUNTS DUE
THROUGH THE USE OF REASONABLE
PAYMENT PLANS AND AS SUCH A B A
10 82 WILL EFFECTIVELY
NEUTRALIZED OUR PARKING
ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS FOR THESE
REASONS. WE REQUESTED NO VOTE
TODAY. THANK YOU. MADAM SURE.
THANK YOU. CORY SOLVES ALOT ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA STATE
SHERIFFSASSOCIATION. EXISTING
LAW ALREADY PROVIDES SIGNIFICANT
OPPORTUNITY FOR MOTORISTS TO
ADDRESS EITHER UNRESOLVED
PARKING VIOLATIONS. WE FEEL
THESE STATUTES ALLOW LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS TO KEEP ROADWAYS
SAFE, UM, AND TO ADDRESS THE USE
OF LOCAL STREETS AND ROADS IS
UNLAWFUL VENUES FOR LONG TERM
STORAGE. UM ALSO TO ENSURE
ACCOUNTABILITY AMONG THOSE WHO
VIOLATE THE LAW. UM THIS WE FEEL
WOULD THIS BILL WOULD ELIMINATE
MUCH OF THE MOTIVATION FOR
PEOPLE TO TAKE CARE OF PARKING
VIOLATIONS? UM INCREASE FURTHER
PUBLIC SAFETY CHALLENGES AND
OPPORTUNITIES FOR FURTHER
VIOLATIONS. SO RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR YOUR NO VOTE. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IS THERE
ANYBODY IN THE ROOM WISHING TO
VOICE OPPOSITION TO THE BILL, SO
PLEASE COME UP TO THE
MICROPHONES. OKAY SEEING NONE
WILL GO TO THE PHONE LINES FOR
TESTIMONY IN FAVOR OF OR IN
OPPOSITION TO A B 10 82. THANK
YOU SUPPORTER OPPOSITION, YOU
MAY PRESS ONE AND THEN ZERO.
AGAIN THAT IS ONE AND THEN ZERO
FOR SUPPORTER OPPOSITION. WE
WILL GO TO LINE 25. YOUR LINE IS
OPEN. HI MY NAME IS LUCY. UM
KALINA, BESIDES, RIGHTS
ADVOCATES IN STRONG SUPPORT OF
MAYBE 10 82. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THANK YOU. NEXT WE WILL GO TO
LINE 22. YOUR LINE IS OPEN. HI
THIS IS SEPARATING HIM ON BEHALF
OF STREET FROM WHICH SUPPORTS
SURVIVORS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE,
PROUD, PROUD CO SPONSOR AND IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
AND NEXT, WE WILL GO TO LINE
NUMBER NINE. YOUR LINE IS OPEN.
HONORABLE ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S AND
MADAM CHAIR FOR THE RECORD. MY
NAME IS JON HAMM WHEN I'M THE
PRESIDENT OF THE CALIFORNIA
MOBILITY AND PARKING
ASSOCIATION, I REGRET THAT I
COULD NOT BE WITH YOU IN PERSON
TODAY, BUT I'M HERE TO RECOMMEND
REGISTER OUR OPPOSITION TO A V
10 82. THANK YOU. THANK YOU,
ELENA 23. YOUR LINE IS OPEN. YES
HELLO. GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM
CHAIR AND MEMBERS TENDER,
MARKING WITH THE CSU
CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE. THE CSU
DOES NOT HAVE A FORMAL POSITION
ON THE MEASURE. HOWEVER SOME OF
OUR POLICE CHIEFS HAVE EXPRESSED
CONCERNS THAT SAID, WE HAVE HAD
SOME CONSTRUCTIVE CONVERSATIONS
WITH THE AUTHOR'S OFFICE AND
LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO
WORK WITH THEM AS THE BILL MOVES
FORWARD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
WE'LL GO TO LINE 24. YOUR LINE
IS OPEN. DO YOU HAVE A SOME
MUTE? 9 24, PLEASE GO AHEAD. ALL
RIGHT, AND WE'LL MOVE ON. AND WE
HAVE NO FURTHER SUPPORTER
OPPOSITE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. OKAY, WE'LL GO BACK
TO COMMITTEE MEMBERS. MR GIBSON.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND, UM TO
THE AUTHOR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I HAVE A QUESTION, SO THIS BILL
BASICALLY SETS UP A PAYMENT
PLAN. UM AND AM I LED TO BELIEVE
THAT THERE'S NO PAYMENT PLAN
THAT EXISTS CURRENTLY FOR
SOMEONE WHO, UH, ENCOUNTERED, UM
, BACK REGISTRATION AND BOOT IS
BEING PLACED ON SOMEONE'S CAR TO
ALLOW THEM TO PAY THE
OUTSTANDING, UH, FEES THAT ARE
DUE, SO THAT'S THE FIRST
QUESTION. SO UM, THERE'S A BILL
BY KIND OF SOMEWHAT OF A
COMPANION BILL TO SOME EXTENT
THAT SENATOR LAKI, UM DID BACK
IN 2018 THAT WAS ADOPTED AND
CHAPTER DID THAT SET UP THE
ABILITY TO HAVE PAYMENT PLANS?
THIS ONE IN PARTICULAR IN
REGARDS TO PARKING VIOLATIONS
WOULD ALLOW LOW INCOME
CALIFORNIANS TO SET UP A PAYMENT
PLAN FOR THAT ALONE. THERE HAS
ALREADY BEEN I SET UP FOR
PAYMENT PLANS ON DEBTS.
OTHERWISE THIS EXT FURTHER
EXTENDS IT. IF THE ISSUE THAT
SOMEONE'S HAPPENING IS GOING TO
PARKING TICKETS RATHER THAN
IMPOUNDING THEIR CAR. OKAY THANK
YOU VERY MUCH FOR CLARIFYING. SO
THIS BILL 10 82 DOES IT SUSPEND
ANY EXISTING UM, PENALTIES
BESIDES CREATING THE PAYMENT
PLAN? IT'S REALLY ABOUT THE
TOWING AND THE BOOTING AND THE
YOU KNOW, I'M NOT BEING ABLE TO
HAVE SO MUCH REGISTRATION
SUSPENDED BASED ON ONE TICKET.
WE'RE TRYING TO GET RID OF THE
EGREGIOUS WHAT WE BELIEVE ARE
THE CONSEQUENCES THAT FAR
OUTWEIGH THEM THAT THE INCIDENT
OR THE CITATION, AND SO THERE'S
STILL PLENTY OF DIFFERENT
OPPORTUNITIES AND WAYS THAT YOU
CAN GET. THAT JURISDICTIONS CAN
GET THEIR MONEY THEY'RE OWED.
BUT ULTIMATELY WE'RE SAYING IS
THAT IF SOMEONE HAS TWO OR THREE
TICKETS THAT THAT SHOULDN'T BE
GROUNDS FOR TOWING THEIR VEHICLE
, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE SOME IT'S
MORE LIKELY THAN NOT TO BE A LOW
INCOME CALIFORNIA THAT'S GOING
TO SUFFER FROM THAT. UM AND
ULTIMATELY IF THEY DO EXCEED
FIVE AND ADULTS, YOU KNOW THERE
ARE ALL THE OPTIONS ON THE
TABLE, BUT THIS DOES ALLOW FOR A
PAYMENT PLAN. IF THEY HAVE TWO
OR THREE TICKETS ALLOWS
OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO PAY IT
SLOWLY OVER A PERIOD OF TIME.
BECAUSE TICKETS HAVE GOTTEN A
LOT MORE EXPENSIVE. THEY WERE 5
10 YEARS AGO. SURE, JUST HAD A
FLASHBACK WHEN I WAS A TEENAGER,
UM AND YEAH, AND SO COMPARTMENT
ON MY REGISTRATION, BUT DO WE
HAVE ANY AND I'M GOING? I WON'T
BELABOR IT. UM DO WE HAVE ANY
DATA OR ANY NUMBERS IN TERMS OF
ACTUALLY HOW MANY PEOPLE THIS IS
AFFECTING. BY WAY OF THE
PENALTIES. UM THAT HAS BEEN
LEVIED AGAINST INDIVIDUALS IN
CALIFORNIA BECAUSE OF
OUTSTANDING PARKING. PENALTIES.
WE DON'T WE? WE DON'T HAVE RAW
NUMBERS ON HOW MANY WE DO KNOW,
BASED UPON SOME STUDIES THAT
HAVING A CAR UM BUT HAVING YOUR
CAR TOWED DOESN'T NECESSARILY
LEAD ISN'T THE BEST REACTION IN
TERMS OF CREATING GOOD BEHAVIOR
, AND IT ACTUALLY COST A CITY
AND TOW YARD A LOT MORE,
TYPICALLY, EVEN IF THEY PUT IT
UP FOR AUCTION, UH, USUALLY COST
THEM A LOT MORE TO GO THROUGH
THAT WHOLE PROCESS THAT IT DOES
TO EVEN JUST COMPLETELY FORGIVE
THE DEBT. IN THIS CASE, WE'RE
NOT SUGGESTING THE DEBT. BE
FORGIVEN, BUT WE'LL TAKE A
CLOSER LOOK TO SEE IF WE CAN GET
SOME DATA. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT
WE HAVE ON HAND DATA WITH US,
BUT WE DO HAVE SOME STUDIES THAT
SHOW THAT THIS PARTICULAR
MECHANISM IS NOT PARTICULARLY
EFFECTIVE ONE. I WILL BE VOTING
FOR TODAY. UM AND I WOULD
CERTAINLY LIKED AS A BILL MOVED
FORWARD TO TRY TO LEAST RECEIVE
THAT DATA. SO HOW MANY PEOPLE
THIS IS AFFECTING? MOVING
FORWARD TO BECAUSE I BELIEVE WE
CREATE BILLS TO HELP SOLVE
PROBLEMS, AND CERTAINLY THOSE
WHO ARE STRUGGLING, UM, REGISTER
AND YOU KNOW THE PARKING METER
RUNS OUT. THEY GET A PARKING
TICKET AND THEY MAY BE LOOKING
FOR A JOB, AND NOW THEY'VE GOT
ANOTHER BILL. ON TOP OF THAT.
THE PAYMENT PLAN. I GET THAT
WE'RE NOT RELIEVING A PERSON
FROM THEIR DEBT OR OBLIGATION,
BUT IT'S A PAYMENT PLAN. UM AND
SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING IT
TODAY. AND CERTAINLY WE LOVE
WITH YOU. YOU CAN CONTACT MY
OFFICE WITH THIS INFORMATION. I
WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IT WHICH
WILL DECIDE ON ONCE THE BILL
COMES TO THE FLOOR. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. THIS SONG MEMBER
NGUYEN, UM JUST TO FEED OFF ON
THAT, SO I THINK I HEARD THE
OPPOSITION SAY THAT THERE ARE
READY PAYMENT PLANS IN PLACE FOR
THOSE THAT ARE LOW INCOME THAT
ARE NOT ABLE TO PAY FOR THEIR
FEES. WELL IF THERE'S ALSO THEY
CAN ALSO GET ANOTHER CAR TOWED.
SO YOU'RE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
HAVING PUTTING THE DISCRETION IN
THE DEBTOR, UM AS TO WHETHER A
CAR IS GOING TO BE TOWED OR BY
THEIR CITY IS GOING TO INFORM.
BUT THEY ALSO, UM UNDER CURRENT
LAW CAN ALLOW FOR VEHICLES JUST
TO BE TOWED EVEN FOR A FIRST
INCIDENT. IS THAT I'M SORRY, AND
I'M WANTED TO SEE IF I CAN GET
FROM THE OPPOSITION. IS THAT
TRUE THAT IF THERE'S JUST ONE
INCIDENT THAT DEPENDING ON THE
INCIDENT OR THE SITUATION IS
THAT HOW IT WORKS THE WAY IT
CURRENTLY WORKS. IF THERE'S ONE
TICKET OUTSTANDING, THE PERSON'S
REGISTRATION CAN ACTUALLY BE
WITHHELD. FROM FROM BEING
PROVING PAID SO THE PERSON WOULD
HAVE TO RECTIFY THE PAYMENT ON
THAT TICKET BEFORE THEY GET
THEIR DMV. PRIOR TO TOWING A CAR
IN A JURISDICTION YOU HAVE YOU
HAVE TO ACTUALLY HAVE FIVE.
UNPAID PARKING TICKETS TO SORT
OF HIT THAT THRESHOLD WHERE YOU
ACTUALLY CAN EITHER HAVE YOUR
CAR MOBILIZED OR TOWED AT THAT
POINT, UM, AND FOR THE PAYMENT
PLAN, WE C M C N PH. OTHER LAW
ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES, I WENT
THROUGH SOME PAINSTAKING
NEGOTIATIONS WITH MR LACKEY OVER
SEVERAL YEARS TO SET UP AND MAKE
SURE THAT YOU KNOW WE CAST THE
NET AS WIDELY AS POSSIBLE TO
CAPTURE ANYBODY THAT'S
CHARACTERIZES INDIGENT, WHICH IS
A HUGELY BROAD DEFINITION. WE'VE
WAIVED ALL OF THE LATE FEES FOR
FOLKS WHO HAVE ACCRUED A BUNCH
OF LATE FEES, SORT OF DECIDING
WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANTED TO GO
AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD TO PAY
THEIR FEES. UM AND WORKED OUT AT
$25 A MONTH. PROCESS FOR FOLKS
TO KIND OF WORK THEIR PAYMENTS
DOWN THIS BILL ACTUALLY CAPS UH
, THE TOTAL FEES THAT CAN BE
PAID TO $600 BECAUSE IT'S $25
OVER 24 MONTHS PERIOD. CURRENTLY
YOU CAN GO MUCH FURTHER THAN
THAT, JUST TO CONTINUE TO PAY IT
OFF TILL IT'S GONE, BUT IT'S A
HUGE KIND OF STEP AWAY FROM
WHERE WE WERE GOING WITH THE
LACKEY BILL, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE
OPPOSED. THEY DONE. OKAY THANKS.
IT'S OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE? YES
BABIES. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
IF YOU COULD JUST CLARIFY FOR
ME. I'M JUST WE HAVE A LOT OF A
CHOICE IN OUR AREA, AND SO WE
HAVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS,
SOMETIMES PEOPLE PARKING AND
GUEST SPOTS AND I JUST WANTED TO
KNOW IS THIS EXEMPT WITH H O S
IF SOMEBODY PARKS IN A PLACE OR
OVERNIGHT WITHOUT A PERMIT? UH
THEY NORMALLY DO A WARNING. AND
THEN THEY'RE TOAD. DOES THIS NOW
GO INTO HMOS AS WELL? YEAH IT'S
ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, JUST LIKE
WHETHER IT'S AN H O A AND
PRIVATE. UM PARKING LOT JUST
SIMILAR TO A SHOPPING CENTER HAS
A PRIVATE PARKING LOT. UM THEY
HAD THE ABILITY TO TOE AND SO
IT'S NOT THEIRS UNDER PUBLIC
JURISDICTIONS THAT WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT. IT DOESN'T IMPEDE PRIVATE
OWNER OF WHETHER IT'S A SHOPPING
CENTER. WHAT HAVE YOU TO BE ABLE
TO? UM YOU KNOW, AS YOU
OFTENTIMES SEE, YOU KNOW, IF
YOU'RE NOT HERE FOR BUSINESS ON
THE ON THE PROPERTY YOU COULD BE
TOLD SIMILAR TO THAT JUST LIKE A
MOBILE HOME OR WHAT HAVE YOU
OKAY. WOULD YOU BE OPEN JUST TO
PUTTING THAT IN THERE AS EXEMPT
FOR A CHOICE? PRIVATE BUT WE'LL
TAKE A LOOK AT IT. AND IF WE IF
WE NEED TO CLARIFY IT, WE CAN
CERTAINLY DO THAT. THANK YOU. MR
GIBSON. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
JUST ONE CLARIFYING QUESTION
FROM THE OPPOSITION THAT I
UNDERSTAND. YOU SAY THAT IF A
PERSON GETS ONE TICKET THEN
THEIR REGISTRATION VEHICLE
REGISTRATION CAN BE HELD. IS
THAT IS THAT AT THE SAME TIME
THERE ON A PAYMENT PLAN. AND SO
CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT YOU JUST
SAID? IN TERMS OF ONE TICKET
REGISTRATION BEING HELD? SO
ESSENTIALLY, IF SOMEBODY
SOMEBODY GETS A PARKING TICKET
AND ACTIVELY CHOOSES NOT TO PAY
IT, AND THAT THAT THAT PARKING
TICKET SITS FOR A YEAR, AND
PEOPLE BASICALLY ARE ARE BEING
SENT NOTICES FOR PAYMENT.
THERE'S A LATE FEE THAT'S ADD
ONTO THAT AFTER A CERTAIN AMOUNT
OF TIME. YOU'RE SORT OF NOTIFIED
BY THE MAIL. UM, THAT YOU HAVE
THIS THIS GROWING PROBLEM. AT
THAT POINT, THE AGENCY DOES HAVE
THE OPTION TO REFER THAT MATTER
TO THE D. M V. WHO THEN ACTS AS
A COLLECTIONS AGENCY AND WITH
HOLDS THE REGISTRATION UNTIL
THAT TICKET HAS BEEN PAID. BUT
I'M NOT GOING TO YOUR QUESTION.
I'M NOT SURE HOW OFTEN ONE
TICKET TRIGGERS THAT ACTION AND
I COULD DEFINITELY GET BACK TO
YOU WITH THAT KIND OF DATA TO,
UM AND I WANT I DON'T MAKE ANY
ASSUMPTIONS THAT THERE'S A
THRESHOLD THAT AGENCIES ARE
USING. BUT BUT BY LAW, YES. ONE
TICKET CAN LEAD TO THAT ACTION.
I DON'T THINK POOR PEOPLE
ACTIVELY TRY TO DO THIS. I THINK
THIS IS A IT'S A REALLY, UM, A
FINANCIAL SITUATION FOR PEOPLE.
I THINK THE AUTHOR IS TRYING TO
GET AT TRYING TO HELP THOSE WHO
ARE, UM IN A PARTICULAR CATEGORY
IN TERMS OF THEIR ABILITY TO PAY
FOR IT, AND I'M TRYING TO GET ON
A PAYMENT PLAN AT LEAST PAY
THEIR DEBT. BUT I WAS CONCERNED
THAT IF THEY IF IT'S A YEAR,
WHICH IS INDICATION OF CAN'T PAY
IT. BUT THEN THAT WOULD TRIGGER
A PERSON NOT BEING ABLE TO, OF
COURSE, GET THEIR CAR REGISTERED
, WHICH IS ON TOP OF THAT.
ANOTHER BARRIER FOR EMPLOYMENT
LOOKING FOR JOBS, YOU KNOW,
TRANSPORTATION, SO THAT'S WHAT
I'M I'M UNDERSTANDING. UM,
YOU'RE SAYING BUT ALSO I JUST
WANT TO CLARIFICATION IN TERMS
OF IF SOMEONE IS ON THIS PAYMENT
PLAN AND THAT OCCUR THEN IT
SEEMS LIKE THEY SHOULD STILL BE
ABLE TO GET THEIR REGISTRATION
WHILE THEY'RE STILL MAKING
PAYMENTS. THAT'S CORRECT. YES
BASICALLY FREEZES THE WHOLE
PROCESS THAT WE WAIVE ALL THE
LATE PAYMENTS AND EVERYTHING IS
PUT INTO MOTION AS LONG AS
YOU'RE ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN THE
PAYMENT PLAN. THANK YOU. WICKS.
THANKS I JUST WANTED TO THANK
THE AUTHOR FOR BRINGING THE BILL
FORWARD. I THINK THIS IS WHAT
WHAT SEEMS LIKE A SMALL ISSUE.
IT'S ACTUALLY A PRETTY BIG DEAL
FOR LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES WHO
ARE DISPROPORTIONALLY
COMMUNITIES OF COLOR. SO I WANT
TO THANK THE AUTHOR WOULD LOVE
TO BE ADDED AS A CO AUTHOR, AND
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S BEEN A
MOTION, BUT I'LL MOVE IT IF
THERE HASN'T BEEN OKAY. ANY
OTHER QUESTIONS? I WILL BE
SUPPORTING THE BILL BECAUSE
WE'RE ALSO FORGETTING THE
ADDITIONAL COST OF THE VEHICLE
HAS BEEN TOLD THERE IS AN
ADDITIONAL FEE TO PAY. AND IF
IT'S ON A FRIDAY, YOU'RE GOING
TO PAY AT LEAST THREE DAYS, SO
THAT REALLY PUTS ANOTHER BURDEN
ON THE LOW INCOME FAMILIES, SO I
WILL BE SUPPORTING YOU. ANYBODY
ELSE? SO I ACTUALLY THINK THIS
THIS BILL IS A LITTLE BIT TOUGH
AND SOME REASONS. UM FIRST OF
ALL, I TOTALLY APPRECIATE WHAT
YOU'RE DOING, AND I AGREE THAT
IT'S IMPORTANT AND I AND THE
BILL SHOULD MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE
WE DON'T WANT TO BE, UM, YOU
KNOW. PUTTING PEOPLE WHO ALREADY
ARE IN A FINANCIAL HOLE FURTHER
DOWN INTO A HOLE THAT THEY CAN'T
ESCAPE FROM. SO THAT'S WHY I'M
GOING TO SUPPORT THE BILL, AND I
THINK IT IS IMPORTANT, BUT I
THINK THAT WE ALSO NEED TO KEEP
WORKING ON THIS BECAUSE CITIES
DO HAVE LEGITIMATE REASONS TO
KEEP PEOPLE FROM PARKING
ILLEGALLY. IT CAUSES CONGESTION
. IT TAKES UP SPOTS. UM IT TAKES
PEOPLE OUT OF TRANSIT. YOU KNOW,
IT MADE. THERE'S REASONS WHY WE
HAVE PARKING RULES AND THERE ARE
PEOPLE WHO CHOOSE TO PARK
ILLEGALLY. THEY JUST ARE. THERE
ARE IN MY COMMUNITY. PEOPLE WHO
RISK GETTING A TICKET. THEY KNOW
THEY MIGHT GET A TICKET. THERE
ARE PEOPLE WHO YOU KNOW, MAYBE
THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY, BUT
THEY CHOOSE TO NOT HAVE
REGISTERED CARS PARK ILLEGALLY
CAUSE YOU KNOW AND ARE NOT JUST
DOING IT ONCE OR TWICE AND
HAPPENED. WHATEVER PARKING IN
PLACES THEY KNOW ARE ILLEGAL FOR
A VARIETY OF REASONS AND CITIES
HAVE TO HAVE SOME TOOLS TO DEAL
WITH THAT. AND MY CONCERN IS
THAT YOU KNOW, IF SOMEONE GETS
100 TICKETS UNDER THIS BILL,
THEY STILL CAN'T BE TOLD AND
THEY CAN'T BE BOOTED EITHER.
WHICH YOU KNOW IS ANOTHER WAY
THAT YOU COULD ENFORCE WITHOUT
GIVING PEOPLE THAT HUGE BURDEN
OF HAVING TO PAY FOR A TOW,
WHICH ARE RIDICULOUSLY EXPENSIVE
FOR PEOPLE. SO I DO WORRY ABOUT
TAKING THOSE TOOLS AWAY FROM
CITIES. UM AND, YOU KNOW, YOU
KNOW, MAYBE THE ANSWER IS HAVING
THIS SORT OF MANDATORY PAYMENT
PLAN. THAT IS VERY THAT'S NOT
PUNITIVE, AND THAT OFFERS PEOPLE
BY LAW OR BY STATUTE, YOU KNOW A
LOT OF RELIEF. YOU KNOW THAT IF
THEY SHOW A CERTAIN INABILITY TO
PAY AND THE PAYMENT PLAN IS, YOU
KNOW IS VERY LOW. UM, YOU KNOW,
BUT THE QUESTION IS WHY, YOU
KNOW, OR IF THEY'RE LIVING ON
THE STREET, WHERE THEY JUST
CAN'T AVOID GETTING A TICKET,
THEY HAVE NOWHERE ELSE TO GO.
MAYBE IN A DIFFERENT TRACK, BUT
THE PEOPLE WHO ARE CHOOSING TO
DO THIS, YOU KNOW, AND THERE
THEY ARE OUT THERE. THERE MAY BE
A SMALL AMOUNT, BUT THEY ARE, UM
I FEEL LIKE WE'RE GOING TO MAKE
IT A LOT EASIER FOR THEM TO
CONTINUE THIS AND, YOU KNOW,
MAYBE THEY ALSO WERE LOW INCOME
BUT STILL CHOOSE TO DO THIS, YOU
KNOW, JUST FOR CONVENIENCE, AND
I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT WE TELL
CITIES IF THEY HAVE PEOPLE THAT
ARE RACKING UP 40 50 TICKETS. I
UNDERSTAND THE THEY WOULDN'T GET
THEIR REGISTRATION RENEWED. I
HONESTLY DON'T KNOW HOW MANY
PEOPLE DRIVE AROUND WITHOUT
REGISTERED CAR EITHER. YOU KNOW,
I JUST DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT'S
JUST A THING. THAT KIND OF
HAPPENS A LOT. UM I DO HAVE A
COUPLE OF QUESTIONS BECAUSE
WITHOUT THE BOOTING OR THE
TOWING. I ALSO WONDER HOW YOU'RE
GOING TO ENFORCE PEOPLE THAT
HAVE OUT OF STATE PLATES. YOU
KNOW, HOW WILL THE DMV IN FORCE
? IF YOU HAVE AN OUT OF STATE
PLATES, YOU'RE RACKING UP A LOT
OF TICKETS. YOU'RE NOT
REGISTERING YOUR CAR IN
CALIFORNIA. SO YOU DON'T HAVE
THAT MECHANISM OF WITHHOLDING
THE REGISTRATION. SO WHAT DO YOU
DO THEN? IF YOU'RE A CITY IS
THIS IS AN INVITATION FOR PEOPLE
WITH OUT OF STATE PLATES TO JUST
NOW PARK ILLEGALLY EVERYWHERE.
YOU LOOK LIKE IT'S. I THINK
THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT
SCENARIOS THAT COULD COME TO
PLAY OUT OF STATE PLATES. I
THINK IT'S ALREADY A UNIQUE
SITUATION FOR CITIES ARE READY
BECAUSE THEY CAN'T IMPACT THE
VEHICLE'S REGISTRATION. UM BUT
YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT
I'M MORE THAN WILLING TO WORK ON
WITH YOU AND YOUR STAFF. I THINK
THAT YOU KNOW THEY STILL CAN BE.
THERE ARE OTHER WAYS FOR CITIES
TO GAIN JUDGMENTS, ESPECIALLY IF
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ADAM IS OUT
OF PLACE DATE FOR SOME OF THAT
LIVES IN THE JURISDICTION OR
LIVES IN CALIFORNIA, AND IT IS
RACKING UP ALL THESE TICKETS.
THERE ARE OTHER MECHANISMS. UM,
YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, INCLUDING
CIVIL ACTIONS THAT CAN BE TAKEN
IN ORDER TO GET A CIVIL ACTION.
IF THEY HAVEN'T OUT OF STATE.
WOULD YOU EVEN DO THAT? WOULD
YOU CAN TAKE A CIVIL ACTION ON
THE YOU CAN START TAKING CIVIL
ACTION ON THE MONIES OWED. IT
WAS OVER $400 I BELIEVE. OKAY UM
, SO THE BILL AS DRAFTED ALLOWS
FOR $25 A MONTH PAYMENT PLAN
OVER THE COURSE OF TWO YEARS
REQUIRES REMAINING FEES TO BE
WAIVED. SO HOW WOULD YOU STOP
SOMEONE WHO'S JUST GOING TO OPT
TO PAY $300 A YEAR NOW TO NOT
PAY FOR PARKING LIKE IN A
DOWNTOWN IN DOWNTOWN SAN
FRANCISCO? I THINK THAT WITH
THAT KIND OF PAYMENT PLAN. WE
WERE TRYING TO GET SOMETHING
THAT WE FELT WOULD BE REASONABLE
FOR MOST LOW INCOME FAMILIES TO
BE ABLE TO CATCH UP ON THEIR
PAYMENTS. I GET THAT AND I THINK
FOR LOW INCOME PEOPLE WHO ARE
TRYING TO DIG OUT FROM UNDER
THIS WHOLE WHO SOMEHOW MANAGED
TO RACK UP THESE TICKETS
SOMEHOW. THAT MAKES SENSE. BUT
WHAT IF I JUST I'M NOT LOW
INCOME AND I, IT'S REALLY
EXPENSIVE TO PARK IN DOWNTOWN
SAN FRANCISCO. AND I SAY, HEY,
THEY ALL THE MOST THEY CAN ASK
ME FOR NOW IS $300 A YEAR. UNDER
THE PAYMENT PLAN. SO IT DOESN'T
APPLY IN CERTAIN SCENARIOS LIKE
PARKING GARAGES AND ALSO DOESN'T
APPLY TO HIGH INCOME PEOPLE THAT
YOU HAVE. THERE IS AN INCOME
THRESHOLD TO BE ABLE TO QUALIFY,
AND SO YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT
GOING TO HAVE THE SAN FRANCISCO
LAWYER, YOU KNOW, PARKING ON THE
STREET EVERY DAY BECAUSE THEY
KNOW PERSON, THOUGH, MIGHT
DECIDE TO PAY $300 A YEAR. YEAH
SO AND I'M I'M SORRY. LOOK AT
THE NOTES HERE. BUT SOMEONE
THERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF SOMEONE ON
SSC WHO RECEIVED $940 A MONTH.
BUT THE BASICS $100. THAT'S TWO
THIRDS. MONTH SALARY OVER THOSE
TWO YEARS BECAUSE SOMEONE
THRESHOLD FOR THE PAYMENT PLAN.
I'D LIKE 40 PAGES HERE,
APOLOGIZE. IT'S THE SAME AS FOR
A FEW WAIVER FOR A CIVIL ACTION,
IT'S IF YOU'RE RECEIVING PUBLIC
BENEFITS. WHICH THE EXAMPLE THAT
WAS JUST GIVEN. IT CAN BE, YOU
KNOW, SM ON ON SSC, WHICH IS
ABOUT $900 A MONTH AND I THINK
IT GOES UP. IT'S 100 AND 5200%
OF THE POVERTY LEVEL. SO IT'S
ABOUT $2000 A MONTH. OKAY SO
THAT MIGHT WORK. I MEAN, I STILL
WOULD LOVE TO, YOU KNOW, SEE YOU
KEEP WORKING ON THIS BECAUSE I
DO THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY,
YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO SUPPORT
THIS, AND I'M RECOMMENDING
EVERYBODY VOTE FOR IT BECAUSE I
DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE
TAKE THIS BURDEN OFF PEOPLE WHO
JUST HAVE NO CHOICE. BUT LET'S
SAY, LIVING IN THEIR CAR OR HAVE
ABSOLUTELY NO PLACE TO PUT IT
AND THEY'RE AND THEY'RE POOR. I
DO THINK WE HAVE TO GIVE MAKE
SURE THAT WE DON'T TAKE ALL THE
TOOLS AWAY. I WOULD RECOMMEND
THAT YOU LOOK AT THE BOOT PART
AGAIN FOR PEOPLE BECAUSE IT
DOESN'T HAVE THE SAME EXPENSE
ASSOCIATED AS TOWING AND FOR,
YOU KNOW, UNDER CERTAIN
CONDITIONS, YOU KNOW IF SOMEBODY
IS REALLY JUST CHOOSING TO PARK
ILLEGALLY, YOU KNOW IN A LET'S
SAY A HIGH AND YOU KNOW IN A
DOWNTOWN AREA FOR WHATEVER
REASON. YOU KNOW, THAT MAY BE
APPROPRIATE AT TIMES. I KNOW L
CITY OF L. A, FOR INSTANCE, IS
TRYING TO DEAL WITH THESE
ILLEGAL RVS THAT ARE NOT OWNED
BY THE PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING
THEM. THEY'RE ACTUALLY SORT OF
LIKE ALMOST PEOPLE BY FLEETS OF
THEM AND THEY'RE RENTING THEM
OUT. THEY'RE HUGE CODE
ENFORCEMENT ISSUES. THEY'RE VERY
DANGEROUS AND UNSANITARY OF
PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING IN THEM AT
LEAST TRYING TO DEAL WITH
GETTING RID OF THEM. I DON'T
KNOW IF THIS IMPACTS THEIR
ABILITY, BUT THEY'VE BEEN TRYING
TO BOOT. THOSE FIND PERMANENT
HOUSING THAT'S SAFE FOR THE
PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING THEM, BUT
THEY'RE THERE BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE
MAKING MONEY ON THEM. YOU KNOW,
THEY SORT OF RIPPING PEOPLE OFF
WHO CAN'T AFFORD TO DO ANYTHING
ELSE, SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE
SURE THAT THEY STILL HAVE THAT
TOOL AS WELL. WELL THE CITY OF
LOS ANGELES MADAM CHAIR IS
ACTUALLY IS THAT A MORATORIUM ON
TOWING AND BOOTING CARS FOR FIVE
MORE ON PRACTICAL? IT'S UH
UNPAID PRACTICAL SINCE FEBRUARY
OF LAST YEAR. UH AND CERTAINLY
WHETHER IT'S RVS OR SMALLER
VEHICLES AGAIN. THIS IS THAT
IMPACT THE 72 HOUR RULE. I KNOW.
IN PARTICULAR. WE SEE THIS IN
SALARY, A LOT OF DIFFERENT
JURISDICTIONS. YOU'LL SEE LARGER
VEHICLES RVS THAT WILL BE PARKED
FOR WEEKS ON END. THIS IS NOT
IMPACT THAT IT ALLOWS CITIES TO
APPROACH OF HIS OWN HOUSE
COMMUNITY CAN APPROACH IT IN THE
WAY THEY FEEL THEY NEED TO, BUT
IT DOES GIVE THEM THE TOOL OF
THE OF THE TOE AS WELL. OKAY.
NO, THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S GOOD TO
POINT OUT THAT I THINK A LOT OF
THAT WAS OURS ARE PROBABLY
BOOTED FOR THAT REASON RATHER
THAN TICKETS, ALTHOUGH I JUST I
DON'T KNOW EXACTLY BUT AGAIN. I
THINK IT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT
BILL AND I DO THINK THAT IT'S A
VERY CITIES TREAT THIS VERY
PUNITIVELY, AND IT'S REALLY HARD
FOR PEOPLE TO, YOU KNOW, TO
FIGHT THIS IF THEY'RE IN THAT
SITUATION, JUST LIKE WITH A LOT
OF THE MOVING VIOLATIONS AND
EVERYTHING ELSE. YOU KNOW,
HAVING TO GO TO COURT IF THEY'RE
WORKING, FOR INSTANCE, WHICH
OFTEN IS IMPOSSIBLE TO DO, AND
THEN SEEING FINES JUST, YOU
KNOW, PILE UP, SO I CERTAINLY AM
SUPPORTING THE BILL TODAY. I
JUST THINK THAT YOU MAY WANT TO
GIVE, YOU KNOW WORK WITH THE
CITY'S WORKING WITH THE
COMMUNITIES TO MAKE SURE THAT
YOU KNOW THIS IS NARROW AS IT
NEEDS TO BE FOR THE POPULATION
THAT YOU'RE LOOKING TO HELP. WE
HAD A MOTION. I THINK WE HAVE A
SECOND AS WELL. WOULD YOU LIKE
TO CLOSE BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE?
REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS
, MADAM. SHARING THE WORK OF
YOUR COMMITTEE, UM, WITH WITH
WITH OUR STAFF, AS WELL AS
COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS FROM FROM
COLLEAGUES, AS INDICATED DURING
THE CONVERSATION, YOU KNOW, THE
IN TERMS OF THOSE BEING ABLE TO
KIND OF GET AWAY WITH IT WOULD
HAVE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT
FOLKS MAKING $902,000. A MONTH.
SO THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN
DIRE POVERTY FOR THE MOST PART
IN OUR STATE. AND THE OTHER
ASPECT OF IT IS THAT YOU KNOW,
OFTENTIMES LOW INCOME HOUSEHOLDS
HAVE ONE VEHICLE SHARED AMONGST
MANY, MANY PEOPLE. I SAW THIS A
LOT WHEN I WAS WORKING AS A
PUBLIC DEFENDER, UM, WHERE
THEY'LL BE ONE OF THE CHILDREN
WOULD RACK UP SOME TICKETS AND
THE MOM TRYING TO GET TO WORK
HAVING HER CAR TOWED AND I THINK
THAT WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THE
REVERBERATION THAT RIPPLE EFFECT
THAT THE TOWING OF THE CAR HAS
ON A LOW INCOME FAMILY IS FAR
GREATER THAN ON A HIGHER INCOME
FAMILY. WHICH CAN BE A BIG PAIN,
BUT IT DOESN'T COMPLETELY
DISRUPT THEIR ENTIRE LIFE,
POSSIBLY HAVING THEM LOSE THEIR
JOB, LOSING THEM THEIR WAY TO
SCHOOL. AND SO THAT'S WHY I
BELIEVE THIS WAS REALLY
IMPORTANT. THAT'S WHY I BELIEVE
THE PUNISHMENT DOESN'T FIT THE
CRIME CURRENTLY, AND I THINK WE
CAN DO IT IN A BETTER WAY. AND
FOR THAT, RESPECTIVELY, ASK FOR
MY VOTE. VERY WELL SAID OKAY. WE
HAVE EMOTIONAL SECOND. CAN WE
HAVE A ROLL CALL? PLEASE BE 10
82. THE MOTION IS DO PASS AND
REFER TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. FRIEDMAN
FRIEDMAN, I FONG BERMAN FROM AN
EYE CARILLO RIO I DAVIES DAVIES,
NO GIBSON. TIPS AND I HEART. ART
I JACKSON JACKSON I CHOLERA.
ALRIGHT, I LOWENTHAL ONE THOUGHT
I WIN. VOTE FOR THIS, BUT I ECHO
THE CHAIR'S COMMENTS EVERY
SINGLE WORD AND I REALLY, REALLY
HOPE YOU COULD WORK WITH OUR
OPPOSITION BECAUSE I MEAN
EVERYTHING, SHE SAID, IS A HUGE
CONCERN. THE WIN. I. SANCHEZ
SANCHEZ KNOW WALLACE. WALLACE
NOT VOTING WORD. WIX WIX. AYE.
WE HAVE 10 VOTES. THE BILL IS
OUT. OKAY. ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
CERVANTES WELCOME. YOU AND YOUR
WITNESSES MAY PROCEED WHEN
YOU'RE READY.
IS YOUR MICROPHONE ON? YOU NEED
TO PUSH THE BUTTON. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS
FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT
ASSEMBLY BILL 8 32, WHICH IS A
FOLLOW UP TO MY OWN ASSEMBLY.
BILL 1 79 FROM 2017. THE BILL
WAS APPROVED BY THIS COMMITTEE
AND SIGNED INTO LAW THEN THIS
BILL DOES URGE THE GOVERNOR TO
MAKE EVERY EFFORT TO ENSURE THAT
INDIVIDUALS WOULD PROFESSIONAL
EXPERIENCE WORKING IN
ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE ARE
REPRESENTED AMONG THE VOTING
MEMBERSHIP OF THE CALIFORNIA
TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION. WHILE
GOVERNOR NEWSOM HAS HEEDED THIS
CALL WITH HIS CTC APPOINTMENTS.
THERE IS NO GUARANTEE THAT
FUTURE GOVERNORS WILL FOLLOW HIS
EXAMPLE AS EXISTING LAW DOES NOT
IMPOSE AN EXPLICIT REQUIREMENT
ON FUTURE GOVERNORS TO DO SO.
THIS BILL WILL PROVIDE THIS
GUARANTEE BY REQUIRING THE
GOVERNOR TO APPOINT AT LEAST ONE
INDIVIDUAL WITH PROFESSIONAL
EXPERIENCE IN ENVIRONMENTAL
JUSTICE AS A VOTING MEMBER OF
THE CTC. THIS IS MERELY AN
UPGRADE THAT STATE'S MAKE EVERY
EFFORT, SUGGESTING LANGUAGE TOO
SHALL REQUIRE, AND THIS IS AN
IMPORTANT ISSUE FOR OUR
ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE
COMMUNITIES, ACCORDING TO THE
OFFICE OF ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH
HAZARD ASSESSMENT AS OF 2021,
9.6 MILLION CALIFORNIANS, OR
24.3% OF THE STATE POPULATION.
LIVE IN CENSUS TRACTS THAT ARE
DESIGNATED AS DISADVANTAGED
COMMUNITIES DISPROPORTIONATELY
AFFECTED BY POLLUTION. IT IS
VITAL THAT THE CTC CONTINUE TO
HAVE THE PERSPECTIVES OF THESE
DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES WHEN
MAKING IMPORTANT TRANSPORTATION
POLICY DECISIONS. THIS BILL WILL
MAKE IT A REALITY REGARDLESS OF
WHO OCCUPIES THE GOVERNOR'S
OFFICE. THIS MOVE WOULD NOT BE
UNPRECEDENTED ELSEWHERE IN THE
STATE GOVERNMENT. MAYBE 38 32
WHAT MERELY ALIGNED THE CTC WITH
THE AIR RESOURCES BOARD, AS WELL
AS A COASTAL COMMISSION AND
GUARANTEEING ENVIRONMENTAL
JUSTICE REPRESENTATION AMONG ITS
VOTING MEMBERS. I RESPECTFULLY
ASK FOR AN I VOTE. THANK YOU. I
DON'T HAVE ANY WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT ON FILE OR AN OPPOSITION
. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE ROOM
WISHING TO TESTIFY AND SUPPORT
OF THE BILL GAVIN, COACH FOR
QUEEN ERIN SUPPORT THANK YOU.
ANYONE WISHING TO TESTIFY IN
OPPOSITION? OKAY. OPERATOR CAN
YOU OPEN UP THE PHONE LINES FOR
A B 8 32, PLEASE. DIFFERENT
SUPPORTER OPPOSITION. YOU MAY
PRESS ONE AND THEN ZERO. AGAIN
THAT IS ONE AND THEN ZERO FOR
SUPPORTER. OPPOSITION WILL GO
LINE 24 YOUR LINE IS OPEN. DO
YOU HAVE A SON? MUTE LINE, 24.
AND WE'RE MY VINE, AND WE HAVE
NO FURTHER SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION
AND QUÊ. THANK YOU WILL GO TO
THE COMMITTEE QUESTIONS,
COMMENTS. I THINK WE HAVE A
MOTION AND A SECOND. DID YOU
NEED TO CLOSE? RESPECTFULLY
ASKED FOR AN I VOTE ON BEHALF OF
THE COMMUNITIES ACROSS
CALIFORNIA THAT ARE ASKING FOR A
REPRESENTATION ON THE CTC. THANK
YOU. I'M SUPPORTING THE BILL.
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT
FORWARD. CAN WE HAVE A ROLL
CALL, PLEASE? MAYBE 8 30 TO DO
PASS AND WE REFER TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS.
FRIEDMAN FRIEDMAN. I FOUND
BERMAN BERMAN I CARILLO VÚI
DAVIES DAVIES, NO GIBSON ART.
ART I JACKSON JACKSON I CHOLERA.
ALRIGHT I LOWENTHAL ONE THOUGHT
I WIN WHEN I SANCHEZ BENCHES. NO
WALLACE. WHILE IT'S NOT VOTING.
WARD. WICKS. AYE. IT'S 92. THE
BILL IS OUT. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR
MEMBERS. I HAVE MY TWO BILLS.
I'M GOING TO PASS THE MIC TO A
COMMITTEE MEMBER UNTIL THE VICE
CHAIR RETURNS. WHEN THE VICE
CHAIR RETURNS, I WOULD REQUEST
THAT MIGHT GET THE, UH GOBBLE BE
PASSED BACK TO HIM. MR. CARILLO
WAS SO EXCITED BEFORE TO BE
CHAIRING. I'M GOING TO GIVE HIM
HIS CHANCE. NOW YOU STAY THERE.
I'M GONNA PASS. YEAH. NO, NO.
EXACTLY RIGHT. AH! HERE WE GO.
OH, NO. SO I'M DONE. THANK YOU.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S FRIEDMAN,
PLEASE. YOU CAN START WHEN
YOU'RE READY. THANK YOU. I'M
GOING TO START WITH A B SIX. UM
MEMBERS REPORTS FROM THE
LEGISLATIVE ANALYST'S OFFICE
THROUGH THE STRATEGIC GROWTH
COUNCIL AND THE UNIVERSITY OF
CALIFORNIA INSTITUTE OF
TRANSPORTATION STUDIES ALL
CONCLUDE THAT LEGISLATIVE ACTION
IS NECESSARY TO CONTINUE MOVING
AWAY FROM HOW WE'VE
TRADITIONALLY FUNDED OUR
TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE.
EVEN MORE RECENTLY, THE
INTERGOVERNMENTAL PANEL ON
CLIMATE CHANGE IS LATEST REPORT.
WARNS THAT EARTH IS LIKELY TO
CROSS A CRITICAL THRESHOLD FOR
GLOBAL WARMING WITHIN THE NEXT
DECADE. THE REPORT FROM
SCIENTISTS AROUND THE WORLD
CALLS FOR AN IMMEDIATE AND
DRASTIC SHIFT AWAY FROM FOSSIL
FUELS IN ORDER TO PREVENT THE
PLANET FROM OVERHEATING
DANGEROUSLY. AND, ACCORDING TO
JOSE ONLY CHAIR OF THE I, P. C C
. THE PATIENT SCALE OF WHAT HAS
BEEN DONE SO FAR IN THE CURRENT
PLANS ARE INSUFFICIENT TO TACKLE
CLIMATE CHANGE. WITH NEARLY 40%
OF CALIFORNIA'S GHG EMISSIONS
GENERATED BY THE TRANSPORTATION
SECTOR. THE STATE'S CLIMATE
GOALS REQUIRE URGENTLY
ADDRESSING HOW REGIONS PLANS
SUSTAINABLE COMMUNITIES AND
PROMOTE IMPROVED TRANSPORTATION
CHOICES THAT WERE GROUPS REDUCED
GROWTH IN NUMBER OF VM T AND G H
G. IN ORDER TO REACH OUR STATE'S
CLIMATE GOALS. IT'S GOING TO
TAKE STATE AND LOCALS WORKING
TOGETHER AT THE SAME PACE OF
CHANGE. THIS IS THE INTENT OF
THESE TWO BILLS A B SIX AND A B
SEVEN. NOW SP 3 75 WAS AUTHORED
BY MAYOR DARRELL STEINBERG
NEARLY 15 YEARS AGO, AND THIS
BILL IS BUILDING OFF OF THAT
LANDMARK LEGISLATION TO ENSURE
THAT LAND USE PLANNING IS
EFFICIENTLY USED TO REDUCE THE
STATE'S G H. G S. THE BILL. ALSO
UH, SORRY. A B SIX MAKES GOOD
GOVERNANCE CHANGES IN THE SP 3
75 PROCESS BY REQUIRING CARBS
THAT REGIONAL GHD TARGETS FOR
2035 2045. THE BILL ALSO ADDS
CONCRETE TIMELINES FOR MPS THOSE
WHO ARE PLANNING ORGANIZATIONS
TO SUBMIT TECHNICAL METHODOLOGY
AND THE SCS ITSELF AFTER
ADOPTION TO CARB. IN ADDITION, A
B SIX REQUIRES RATHER THAN
ENCOURAGES MPS TO WORK WITH CARB
AS CARB REVIEWS AND APPROVES THE
TECHNICAL METHODOLOGY. I WANT TO
BE CLEAR THAT THIS IS AN ONGOING
CONVERSATION AS WE REFINE AND
DISCUSS THE LANGUAGE, AND I'M
HOPING THAT THIS NEW
COLLABORATIVE PROCESS WHICH WE
DIDN'T REALLY DO LAST YEAR, BUT
WE ARE DOING THIS YEAR. WILL
YIELD THE EFFECTIVE CHANGES IN
LAND USE THAT WE NEED TO MEET
OUR GHG REDUCTION TARGETS SET
UNDER SB 3 75 NEARLY 15 YEARS
AGO. I WANT TO THANK THE
COMMITTEE STAFF AND MAYOR
STEINBERG FOR THEIR HARD WORK ON
THE ONGOING STAKEHOLDER PROCESS
, AND I WANT TO THANK THE
MEMBERS OF THAT VERY LARGE GROUP
, WHICH INCLUDES REPRESENTATIVES
OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL,
ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE, LOCAL
GOVERNMENT, HOUSING AND LABOR
SECTORS. TESTIFYING AND SUPPORT
THIS AFTERNOON IS ZACH YATES
YATES, CHIEF OF STAFF FOR MAYOR
FOR MAYOR STEINBERG AND ROGER
DICKINSON, THE POLICY DIRECTOR
FROM CIVIC WELL RIGHT NOW, WE
HAVE NO REGISTERED OPPOSITION IN
THIS BILL, AND I WOULD REQUEST
RESPECTFULLY REQUESTS AND I VOTE
FOR EVERYONE SO THAT WE CAN
CONTINUE TO DISCUSS THIS
IMPORTANT TOPIC. WE HAVE LOTS OF
MOTION, SO MY WITNESSES WILL BE
VERY BRIEF TODAY. THANK YOU.
WHOEVER WANTS TO GO FIRST. YEAH.
MR VICE CHAIR AND MEMBERS COULD
AT GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M ROGER
DICKINSON, THE POLICY DIRECTOR
FOR CIVIC WELL. PREVIOUSLY, THE
LOCAL GOVERNMENT COMMISSION.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S FRIEDMAN HAS
DESCRIBED THE BILL WELL AND THE
PROCESS THAT WE'RE ENGAGED IN
AND WANT TO THANK HER FOR HER
LEADERSHIP. I'VE BEEN DEEPLY
INVOLVED IN EFFORTS TO INTEGRATE
LAND USE AND TRANSPORTATION FOR
MULTIPLE DECADES AS A COUNTY
SUPERVISOR AS A MEMBER OF THE
ASSEMBLY AND AS A CITIZEN TO
PROMOTE A STRONGER ECONOMY, A
HEALTHY, HEALTHIER ENVIRONMENT
AND SUSTAINABLE COMMUNITIES
WHERE WE HAVE MADE IMPORTANT
PROGRESS. THE WORK IS FAR FROM
COMPLETE. ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
FRIEDMAN, ALONG WITH MAYOR
STEINBERG HAVE BROUGHT TOGETHER
A FULL SPECTRUM OF INTEREST TO
ENGAGE IN THE CHALLENGING AND
DIFFICULT CONVERSATIONS
NECESSARY TO ADDRESS HOW WE CAN
COLLECTIVELY ADVANCE OUR SOCIAL,
ECONOMIC AND ENVIRONMENTAL GOALS
GROUNDED IN HOW WE DEVELOP OUR
COMMUNITIES AND APPLY OUR
TRANSPORTATION RESOURCES. I'VE
WORKED CLOSELY WITH
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S FRIEDMAN'S
STAFF TO ENGAGE A STAKEHOLDER
PROCESS THAT OFFERS THAT
POSSIBILITY. I'M ENCOURAGED THAT
SO MANY HAVE JOINED THE EFFORT
IN GOOD FAITH TO TRY TO FIND AN
APPROACH THAT WILL BUILD ON SP 3
75 AND RESULT IN IDENTIFIABLE
AND MEASURABLE PROGRESS TO USE.
OUR TRANSPORTATION RESOURCES
MORE EFFECTIVELY TO ONE BRING
GREATER EQUITY TO THOSE WHO HAVE
BEEN HISTORICALLY OVERLOOKED AND
DISENFRANCHISED TO ENHANCE
MOBILITY FOR PEOPLE AND GOODS
AND THREE MEET THE AIR QUALITY
AND CLIMATE CRISIS THAT
CONFRONTS US. WE'RE ENDEAVORING
TO USE THIS GOOD WORK DONE IN
THE PREVIOUS SB 1 50 80 TO 85
REPORTS TO LAY A FOUNDATION FOR
OUR WORK. WE'RE LISTENING TO ALL
VOICES AND TAKING ALL
SUGGESTIONS. THE PROCESS IS TIME
CONSUMING AND DEMANDING. BUT
WITH AS MUCH AS 40% OF OUR GHD
EMISSIONS COMING FROM THE
TRANSPORTATION SECTOR. IT IS
CRUCIAL TO CHART A BETTER
COURSE. MORE THAN EVER. THE
CLIMATE CRISIS COMPELS US TO ACT
. I RESPECTFULLY URGE YOUR I
VOTE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT
WITNESS. THANK YOU. VICE CHAIR.
UM AND THANK YOU. MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE. MY NAME IS ZAK YATES,
SITTING IN ON BEHALF OF
SACRAMENTO MAYOR DARRELL
STEINBERG. UM AS AUTHOR OF SB 3
75 MAYOR STEINBERG ACKNOWLEDGES
THAT NO LEGISLATION IS PERFECT
OR UNTOUCHABLE. UM AND SEE THAT
THERE'S A REAL OPPORTUNITY HERE
, UM, TO ENSURE THAT OUR CLIMATE
GOALS MEET THE REQUISITE LEVEL
OF ACCOUNTABILITY BUT ALSO A
LEVEL OF SIMPLICITY. SPECIFICITY
UM, AND FUNDING TO ENCOURAGE
SMART GROWTH. UM WHILE REDUCING
GHT AND BMT, UM MAYBE SIX AND
SEVEN. COMING AFTER OUR MEANS TO
ANSWER THE DAUNTING CHALLENGES
THAT OUR STATE, REGIONAL AND
LOCAL PLANNERS FACE AND WITH THE
URGENCY THAT THE CLIMATE CRISIS
DEMANDS, UM MANY OF OUR LOCAL
REGIONAL TRANSIT AGENCIES FACED
A REAL BUDGET CRUNCH. YOU ALL
ARE WORKING WITHIN A DEFICIT
BUDGET, ALL WHILE WORKING TO
ENSURE FUTURE TRANSPORTATION
PROJECTS SUPPORT THE HIGH
QUALITY SMART GROWTH. PROJECTS
THAT ADDRESS BOTH OUR HOUSING
AND CLIMATE CRISIS. SO AGAIN,
MAYOR STEINBERG APPLAUSE THE
CHAIR FOR BRINGING LABOR, UM
ENVIRONMENTAL, JUSTICE, INDUSTRY
AND REGIONAL PLANNING LEADERS TO
THE TABLE. WHERE COLLABORATIVELY
, UM ON THESE ISSUES AND COMMITS
HIS CONTINUED ENGAGEMENT SUPPORT
AS THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS
CONTINUES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE WILL NOW GO TO OPPOSITION. UM
IS THERE ANY OPPOSITION THAT
WANTS TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK
SUPPORT? WE'RE GONNA DO THAT.
AFTER THE FORMAL SUPPORT AND
OPPOSITION. GO AHEAD. GOOD
AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS MARK WATTS
. I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF
TRANSPORTATION CALIFORNIA I WANT
TO STRESS WE ARE NOT IN
OPPOSITION. WE DID SUBMIT A WORK
WITH AUTHOR. UH LETTER AND WE
WANT TO MAKE A FEW COMMENTS. WE
UNDERSTAND HAVE VERY MUCH
APPRECIATED BEING PART OF THE
STAKEHOLDER OUTREACH GROUP THAT
THE AUTHOR MENTIONED. AND I ALSO
LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT AS WE
REVIEW THOSE REPORTS THAT REPORT
ON THE PROGRESS OF SCS S. WE SEE
IT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY, BUT
NOT TOO MUCH. WE THINK THAT THE
STATE MUST DEVELOP. REVENUES TO
FUND THE SUPPORT OF
INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS
NECESSARY. SO THAT'S A
SUSTAINABLE COMMUNITIES. PLANS
CAN MOVE FORWARD AND COME TO
LIFE. SO IF THAT APPRECIATE THE
OPPORTUNITY, THANK YOU. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT WITNESS IN
OPPOSITION, BILL HIGGINS, NOT IN
OPPOSITION WERE ALSO PART OF THE
STAKEHOLDER GROUP. WE HAVE
CONCERNS, BUT WE ALSO BELIEVE IN
THE PROCESS AND APPRECIATE THE
MEMBER'S LEADERSHIP IN BRINGING
US TOGETHER TO HAVE
CONVERSATIONS AND AS AN EXAMPLE
OF THAT IN ECHOING THE LAST
PERSON, BY THE WAY, I'M NOT
GOING TO GET UP INSIDE THE SAME
THING FOR SEVEN. I'M JUST GOING
TO SAY THIS ONCE. YEAH
APPRECIATE THAT. OKAY ALRIGHT.
UM IS WE'RE TAKING A LOOK AT IT
AS A RB DOCUMENT THAT HAS 56
RECOMMENDATIONS FOR IMPROVEMENT
. AND I WOULD JUST SUGGEST FOR
YOU ALL THAT 52 OF THOSE 56
RECOMMENDATIONS INVOLVED STATE
ACTION AND STATE GREATER STATE
SUPPORT FOR OUR EFFORTS, AND
WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO DIVING
INTO THOSE ISSUES WITH THE
MEMBER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. WE WILL NOW GO TO
PUBLIC TESTIMONY IN SUPPORT IN
THE ROOM. PLEASE COME FORWARD.
UH ME, TOO, IS APPRECIATED. BUT
NAME ORGANIZATIONS IN POSITION
BILMA GAVIN, WITH THE COALITION
FOR CLEAN AIR AND SUPPORT. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH, SEEING NO ONE
ELSE IN THE ROOM WILL GO TO THE
TELEPHONE LINES. UH THOSE WHO
WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT,
PLEASE QUEUE UP. OPERATOR PLEASE
PROCEED. GIVE IT SUPPORT OF A B
60 MY PRESS ONE AND THEN ZERO.
THAT IS ONE AND ZERO FOR SUPPORT
OF A B SIX. AND WE DO HAVE A FEW
QUEUING UP ONE MOMENT, PLEASE.
AND WE WILL GO TO LINE 27. YOUR
LINE IS OPEN. THIS IS MARK
CEVICHE, DIRECTOR OF STATE
POLICY FOR STREETS FOR ALL
CALLING HIM SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
THE NEXT WITNESS. OUR NEXT
PARTICIPANT. THANK YOU. LINE 14.
YOUR LINE IS OPEN. AND IT IS
JACK MCCARTY JR. TRANSPORTATION
ADVOCATES AND NRDC EXPRESSING
OUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU. NEXT
WE'LL GO TO LINE 17. YOUR LINE
IS OPEN. YOU KNOW, I'M ASSUMING
YOU WITH CALIFORNIA
ENVIRONMENTAL VOTERS TO REGISTER
OUR SUPPORT FOR A B SIX. THANK
YOU. NEXT WE'LL GO TO LINE 19.
YOUR LINE IS OPEN. THIS IS CAROL
. WE'D REPRESENTING 3 50 BAY
AREA ACTION IN SUPPORT. THANK
YOU, AND WE HAVE NO FOR THEIR
SUPPORT AND QUÊ. THANK YOU THAT
WAS IN OPPOSITION IN THE ONE TO
PROVIDE PUBLIC TESTIMONY. PLEASE
COME FORWARD. SEEING NOBODY IN
THE ROOM OPERATOR. ANYONE WHO
WANTS TO AH, SPEAKING OF
POSITION PLEASE PROCEED. THANK
YOU FOR AN OPPOSITION OF A B
SIX. YOU MAY PRESS ONE AND THEN
ZERO. AGAIN THAT IS ONE AND THEN
ZERO FOR OPPOSITION. AND WE HAVE
NO OPPOSITION QUÊ. THANK YOU.
OPERATOR WILL BRING IT BACK TO
THE COMMITTEE AND DO ANY OF THE
MEMBERS ON THE COMMITTEE HAVE
ANY QUESTIONS. EBERHARD. THANK
YOU, MR VICE CHAIR. AND JUST A
QUESTION FOR THE AUTHOR, UM,
APPRECIATE INTENDED THE BILL AND
HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS AND THE
STAKEHOLDER PROCESS THAT YOU'RE
WORKING THROUGH. JUST WANT TO
MAKE SURE THAT HIV PROJECTS
WOULD STILL BE CONSIDERED UNDER
BULLET 0.7 WHERE THEY'RE
APPLYING FOR SOLUTIONS FOR
CONGESTION CORRIDORS PROGRAM TO
MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT
DISADVANTAGED. IN THAT SPECIFIC
EXAMPLE. YEAH I WOULD THINK THAT
H O V. H O. V PROJECTS ARE NOT
CONSIDERED CAPACITY INCREASING
PROJECTS. UM RATHER WOULD YOU
COULD CERTAINLY MAKE THE
ARGUMENT THAT THEY REDUCE THE
AMOUNT OF CAR TRIPS BECAUSE
YOU'RE PUTTING MORE PEOPLE
TAKING THEM OUT OF MULTIPLE CARS
AND PUTTING THEM INTO ONE CAR.
THAT WOULD BE MY POSITION ON
THAT. THAT JUST FOR THOSE? I
DON'T KNOW. I WOULDN'T KNOW. WE
DON'T KNOW IF THE MIC WAS
WORKING. BUT THE QUESTION TO THE
AUDIENCE WAS HIV LANES AND
WHETHER THEY WERE INCLUDED IN
THIS BILL. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS
FROM THE COMMITTEE. I DO HAVE A
QUICK QUESTION, MADAM CHAIR IN
TERMS OF UM, I KNOW THIS BILL IS
TRYING TO REDUCE THE NEED FOR
CARS AND YOU CAN CLARIFY THAT
THAT GENERALIZATION IS ACCURATE.
UM, FIRST THOSE OF US WHO LIVE
IN THE RURAL AREAS IN THE
CENTRAL VALLEY. WE CERTAINLY ARE
CLAMMING FOR IMPROVEMENTS IN THE
99, THE MAJOR MAJOR CONGESTION,
CORRIDORS AND MAJOR, UH YOU
KNOW, SUPPLY AND GOOD MOVEMENT
CORRIDORS. AS THIS AS THIS TYPE
OF ANALYSIS OR REVIEW IMPACT.
AND THOSE TYPES OF PROJECTS.
WELL I THINK THAT THE GOAL WOULD
BE TO SEE IF YOU'RE PLANNING
ORGANIZATIONS HAVE ALTERNATIVES
KIND OF OUT THERE AND WHERE THEY
ARE AND THEIR PRIORITIES AND IN
CERTAIN PARTS OF THE STATE, THEY
MAY NOT. THERE MAY NOT BE AN
ALTERNATIVE TO, YOU KNOW,
CAPACITY INCREASING PROJECT, BUT
THERE ALSO COULD BE IF IT'S A
DEVELOPING COMMUNITY. SO IF IT'S
A TOWN, FOR INSTANCE, THAT'S
GROWING. IT MIGHT WANT TO
ENCOURAGE THEM TO GROW IN A WAY
THAT'S MORE SUSTAINABLE, MORE
WALKABLE BAIKAL RATHER THAN
CREATING SORT OF A GIANT SPRAWL
COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, NEAR THAT
MORE URBANIZED CENTER. UM THAT'S
THAT'S MORE OF THE IT'S MORE
ABOUT CONNECTING THOSE LAND USE
DECISIONS WITH THE KINDS OF
TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS THAT ARE
GOING TO SERVICE THAT UM, IT
DOES NOT IMPACT THINGS LIKE ROAD
SAFETY, ROAD MAINTENANCE, MAKING
SURE THAT, UM WE HAVE
EFFICIENCY. YOU KNOW, IF YOU IF
YOU HAVE IF YOU'RE WANTING TO
CREATE NEW VEHICLE TRANS, UH,
INFRASTRUCTURE THAT REDUCES
TRAVEL TIME REDUCES TRAVEL
DISTANCE, YOU KNOW THAT WOULD
NOT. THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING
THAT THIS WOULD BE FAVORABLE
TOWARDS. UM SO IT'S NOT SO
PRESCRIPTIVE AS TO SORT OF SAY,
YOU MAY NOT DO THIS. THAT OR THE
OTHER THING, IT'S ASKING OUR
COMMUNITIES TO SAY, ARE YOU
GROWING? HOW ARE YOU GOING TO
SUPPORT THAT GROWTH? WHAT ARE
THE TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS THAT
ARE MOST LIKELY TO BOTH SUPPORT
YOUR GROWING POPULATION AND DO
IT IN A WAY THAT DOESN'T
RADICALLY INCREASED GHG
EMISSIONS? I THINK THAT I THINK
WE CAN CONTINUE TO HAVE THAT
CONVERSATION. I THINK THAT'S THE
CONCERN IS THAT YOU KNOW, WE
WANT TO GO THAT WE WANT THE 99
FOR SAFETY REASONS, BUT
CERTAINLY FOR OTHER REASONS,
WELL FOR GOODS MOVEMENT TO HAVE
THREE LANES EACH WAY. WE HAVE A
LOT OF RURAL COMMUNITIES THAT
HAVE UNSAFE. UH YOU KNOW, TWO
LANE ROADS THAT WE WANT TO ADD,
YOU KNOW, LANDS INSIDE CHUCK
CHUCK CLIMBING LANES OR AN AREA
JUST FOR SAFETY REASONS. SO THEY
DO HAVE YOU KNOW THEY JUST DO
SERVE A PURPOSE AS FOR SAFETY
REASONS, BUT THEY ALSO EXPAND
CAPACITY, WHICH I WILL
RESPECTFULLY SAY THAT IS
NECESSARY AND IN MANY INSTANCES
AND SO THAT I THINK IT'S GONNA
BE KIND OF A CHALLENGE, BUT I
APPRECIATE YOUR ANSWER IS THAT I
INVITE YOU TO CLOSE ON YOUR
BELL. IF YOU WISH TO DO SO, JUST
LIKE THESE ARE EXACTLY THE KIND
OF CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'RE
HAVING WITH STAKEHOLDERS, AND
THAT'S WHY WE'RE INVITING. WE
ARE INCLUDING STAKEHOLDERS FROM
ALL ACROSS THE STATE. IT'S THE
REASON WHY MY STAFF AND I WENT
TO FRESNO. AS YOU VERY WELL
KNOW, WE HAD A VERY NICE TIME
SEEING YOU THERE AS WELL SO THAT
WE CAN UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENT
IMPACT THAT THE BILLS WILL HAVE
IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE STATE,
AND WE WELCOME AND ARE SEEKING
OUT THAT INPUT FROM FROM ALL THE
STAKEHOLDERS THAT WOULD BE
IMPACTED BY THIS, AND WE WILL
CONTINUE TO HAVE THOSE
DISCUSSIONS AS HOPEFULLY THE
BILLS MOVE FORWARD. YES THANK
YOU. THAT REMINDED ME OF, UM,
THE WITH THE ANSWER THAT YOU
GAVE TO THE VICE CHAIRS.
QUESTION. WITH PLANNING FOR
FUTURE DEVELOPMENT WITH LAND USE
AND THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE
TOWARDS THE FUTURE. UM THE
COMMUNITIES FROM PALMDALE AND
LANCASTER ABOUT 60 70% OF THE
RESIDENTS COMMUTE DOWN TO THE
SENATE RITA OF SAN FERNANDO
VALLEY. THE 14 FREEWAY HAS THREE
CHALK POINTS, GOING DOWN AND
COMING UP WITH THIS BE AN
OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE POINTS TO
BE ANALYZED AND SEE IF THAT
COULD BE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE
EXPANDED SO THAT THERE IS NO
CONGESTION ALONG THE 14 FREEWAY.
YOU KNOW, POSSIBLY AND CERTAINLY
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT
PARTS OF INFRASTRUCTURE THAT ARE
INCREASING EMISSIONS BECAUSE THE
EXISTING TRAFFIC, FOR INSTANCE,
IS IDLING. OR OR IF THERE ARE
SAFETY ISSUES. WE CERTAINLY
DON'T WANT THE CONSIDERATION OF
FIXING THAT TO STOP. THAT'S NOT
THE INTENT HERE. BUT THE INTENT
IS ALSO WHILE WE'RE LOOKING AT
THINGS LIKE A GROWING POPULATION
IN PALMDALE, AND WE ALSO
EVALUATE, YOU KNOW, BRINGING
METRO FROM L. A TO PALMDALE IN A
WAY THAT MAKES IT MORE
CONVENIENT AND FASTER FOR PEOPLE
SO THAT YOU GIVE PEOPLE
ALTERNATIVES. AND THAT'S WHAT'S
AT THE CORE OF THIS IS, YOU KNOW
WHAT ARE. WHAT ARE WE PLANNING
FOR? HOW ARE WE PLANNING FOR
THAT? THAT EQUITABLE AND
SUSTAINABLE MOBILITY FOR
EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW FOR THOSE
LOW INCOME WORKERS WHO CAN
OPERATE MULTIPLE CARS IN THEIR
FAMILY, BUT HAVE MANY PEOPLE WHO
ARE GOING TO WORK, YOU KNOW, FOR
SENIOR CITIZENS AND OUR AGING
POPULATION WHO WE DON'T WANT TO
BE DRIVING AT 80 90 YEARS OLD.
YOU KNOW, TOO. SO YOU KNOW, LIKE
I SAID, IT'S NOT SO
PRESCRIPTIVE, BUT IT IT IS
TRYING TO ALSO LOOK AT THE WAYS
THAT WE CAN, UM, YOU KNOW. MAKE
THINGS SAFE, MAKE OUR ROADS
SAFER AND ALSO INVEST IN THE
KIND OF PROJECTS THAT WE KNOW WE
NEED TO HAVE TO BE SUSTAINABLE,
MOVING FORWARD. RECORDED IN,
COULD IT THEN HELPING DOUBLING
THE METROLINK. TROOPS COMING TO
THE ANTELOPE VALLEY BECAUSE
THAT'S THERE'S ALREADY A
METROLINK SERVICE. GOING FROM
LANCASTER WITH UNION STATION
WITH THE PROBLEM IS THAT THERE'S
ONLY ONE LINE OF TRUCKS, WHICH
IS MAINLY OPERATED BY UNION
PACIFIC. IN THAT LIMITS, THE
NUMBER OF TRIPS AND METROLINK
CAN DO UP TO THE ANTELOPE
VALLEY. WITH THESE, THEN BE A
WAY TO HELP IN RESOLVING THAT
ISSUE. PART OF THE INTENT OF
THIS BILL IS TO MOVE FUNDING
INTO PROJECTS THAT ARE MORE
SUSTAINABLE LIKE MASS TRANSIT,
SO I CAN'T SAY THAT ANY
PARTICULAR PROJECT WILL BE
HELPED. BUT THE WHOLE IDEA HERE
IS THAT WE TAKE SOME OF OUR
FUNDING, WHICH IS LIMITED. WE
ONLY HAVE ONE POT OF FUNDING AND
THAT WE DO TRY TO PUT AS MUCH AS
YOU KNOW, PUT SOME OF IT INTO
SOME OF THESE PROJECTS. LIKE
EXACTLY THAT. BUT AGAIN, I CAN'T
SPEAK TO ANY PARTICULAR PROJECT
. BUT I YOU KNOW I WOULD LOVE TO
WORK WITH YOU. JUST IN GENERAL
ON HOW WE HELP METRO AND METRO
LINK INCREASE THEIR THEIR
RIDERSHIP INCREASED THE
CONVENIENCE OF THEIR OFFERINGS
AND SO HAPPY TO CONTINUE TO WORK
WITH YOU INTO THE FUTURE ON
THAT. THANK YOU FOR THAT. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. BLOOMBERG. UM
SEEING NO OTHER QUESTIONS, AND
WE HAD A CLOSE. DO WE HAVE
EMOTION? SECOND? YEAH WE DO.
YEAH COUPLE. ALRIGHT SORRY I
CAME IN A LITTLE LATE THERE.
MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL. MAYBE SIX DO PASS AND RE
REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
NATURAL RESOURCES. FRIEDMAN
FRIEDMAN, I PHªN FOUND. NO
BERMAN BERMAN. I CARILLO HØI
DAVIES BABIES? NO, GIBSON. AND I
HEART. HEART. I JACKSON JACKSON
I CHOLERA. ALRIGHT I LOWENTHAL
ONE THOUGHT I WIN WHEN I SANCHEZ
SANCHEZ KNOW WALLACE. BOARD.
WICKS. RICK'S, AYE. 10 TO 3 AND
WE'LL LEAVE THE VOTE OPEN FOR
EPSON MEMBERS WILL NOW PROCEED
TO FILE ITEM. 15 A B SEVEN. MAN,
MADAM CHAIR, PLEASE. RECEIVE
WHEN WE'RE READY. SO THIS IS THE
SECOND BILL IN THIS TO BILL
PACKAGE AND I WON'T REPEAT WHAT
I SAID BEFORE THE ALL OF THE
SAME INTENTION IS THERE. WHAT'S
DIFFERENT ABOUT THIS IS THAT
THIS BILL TRIES TO ALIGN OUR
PROJECT SELECTION PROCESS FOR
SIX TRANSPORTATION FUNDING
ACCOUNTS TO INCORPORATE NINE
PRINCIPLES FROM THE 2021 FEDERAL
INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT IN
JOBS ACT. AND THE REASON IS
BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY
COME FROM COMING FROM THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR
SUSTAINABLE TRANSPORTATION. AND
IF WE BETTER ALIGN OUR FUNDING
WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S
PRIORITIES, WE STAND AS
CALIFORNIA TO HAVE A BETTER
CHANCE OF BRINGING FEDERAL MONEY
INTO THE STATE FOR OUR
TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS. WITH
THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO MY
WITNESSES AGAIN, MR DICK
DICKINSON FROM CIVIC WELL AND
NOW BILL MCGOVERN FOR THE
COALITION FOR CLEAN AIR. FIRST
WITNESS. PLEASE PROCEED WHEN
YOU'RE READY. THANKS AND THANKS,
MR VICE CHAIR. I'M STILL ROGER
DICKINSON, POLICY DIRECTOR FOR
CIVIC. WELL UH AND I JUST A
COMMENT OR TWO ON THIS WHILE WE
KNOW THAT CRUCIAL LAND USE AND
TRANSPORTATION DECISIONS ARE
MADE AT THE AT THE LOCAL LEVEL,
ENORMOUSLY IMPORTANT DIRECTION.
IS ALSO ADOPTED THE STATE AND
FEDERAL LEVELS JUST AS WITH A B
SIX, WE WANT TO WORK WITH THAT
GROUP OF STAKEHOLDERS TO ENSURE
THAT WHAT HAPPENS AT THE STATE
LEVEL WITH THE USE OF BOTH STATE
AND FEDERAL FUNDS REINFORCES OUR
EQUITY, TRANSPORTATION AND
CLIMATE GOALS. WELL WHEN WE LOOK
AT HOUSING, FOR EXAMPLE, WE KNOW
THAT THE LEGISLATURE AND THE
GOVERNOR HAVE TAKEN
GROUNDBREAKING STEPS TO PERMIT
AND INCENTIVIZE GREATER
PRODUCTION OF HOUSING AND
PATTERNS THAT WILL SERVE EQUITY
ECONOMIC AND CLIMATE IMPERATIVES
, A B 2011 AND SB SIX FROM LAST
YEAR ARE ONLY TWO EXAMPLES OF
THAT. NOW WE NEED TO EMPLOY
STATE AND FEDERAL TRANSPORTATION
RESOURCES TO ALIGN WITH THAT
WORK, FOR EXAMPLE, CONSIDER ALL
THE OLDER COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS
ACROSS THE STATE, WHICH CAN
BENEFIT FROM A B 2011 AND SB SIX
BUT NEED A COMPLEMENTARY
INVESTMENT. IN TRANSIT AND
ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION TO MEET
THEIR FULL PROMISE. JUST AS YOU
HAVE ELEVATED THE STATE ROLE AND
HOUSING. A B SEVEN CAN PROVIDE
BOTH THE RESOURCES AND THE
DIRECTION TO LOCAL COMMUNITIES
TO HELP THEM PLAY AN INTEGRAL
ROLE IN MEETING THE CHALLENGE.
OUR RESOURCES ARE OBVIOUSLY
LIMITED. OUR TIME IS CLEARLY
SHORT. THE STATE'S COMMITMENT
MUST BE CLEAR AND ON AMBIGUOUS.
RESPECTFULLY URGE YOUR I VOTE.
THANK YOU AGAIN. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. EXT. WITNESS PLEASE
PROCEED. BILMA GAVIN, WITH THE
COALITION FOR CLEAN AIR WITH A
FEW BRIEF POINTS IN CALIFORNIA
TRANSPORTATION ACCOUNTS FOR
ABOUT 80% OF OUR AIR POLLUTION
AND ABOUT HALF OF OUR GREENHOUSE
GAS EMISSIONS WHEN YOU INCLUDE
THE UPSTREAM EMISSIONS. AND IN
ADDITION TO THAT WE HAVE TOO
MANY CALIFORNIANS WHO DO NOT
HAVE ACCESS TO CONVENIENT AND
AFFORDABLE AND CLEAN
TRANSPORTATION. SO WE NEED TO
SOLVE THOSE PROBLEMS.
ELECTRIFYING TRANSPORTATION IS
ESSENTIAL, BUT IT'S NOT
SUFFICIENT. WE ALSO NEED TO
PROVIDE OUR RESIDENTS WITH
BETTER TRANSPORTATION CHOICES
AND A NUMBER OF REPORTS,
INCLUDING SOME COMMISSIONED BY
THIS LEGISLATURE HAVE
DEMONSTRATED THAT CURRENTLY. THE
STATE'S TRANSPORTATION PROGRAMS
ARE NOT ALIGNED WITH THE NEED TO
DELIVER HEALTHY AIR TO OUR
RESIDENTS AND TO MEET THE
TARGETS THAT THE LEGISLATURE HAS
SET TO REDUCE GREENHOUSE GAS
EMISSIONS. THIS BILL WOULD SEEK
TO ADDRESS THAT BY BRINGING
CLIMATE AND AIR QUALITY AND
TRANSPORTATION POLICY INTO
BETTER ALIGNMENT. SO, UH, WE
SUPPORT A B SEVEN. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE'LL NOW
MOVE TO THE OPPOSITION. I DON'T
HAVE ANY LISTED, BUT PLEASE COME
FORWARD. YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES.
THANK YOU, MR VICE CHAIR KEITH
DONE HERE ON BEHALF OF THE SELF
HELP COUNTIES COALITION AS WELL
AS THE DISTRICT COUNCIL OF
IRONWORKERS. AND AGAIN, I'D LIKE
TO THANK COMMITTEE STAFF. AND
THE AUTHOR FOR THE WORKING
GROUPS. WE HAVE HAD PRODUCTIVE
CONVERSATIONS. I WOULD LIKE TO
SAY THAT ANYTHING THAT WE DO
MOVING FORWARD, I THINK SHOULD
BE INCENTIVE BASED, I WILL POINT
OUT THAT THE LOCAL AGENCIES
SPEND 47% OF OUR REVENUE, WHICH
IS $5 BILLION ANNUALLY ON
TRANSIT AND TRANSIT OPERATIONS
AND 150 MILLION GIVE OR TAKE ON
A T P SO THE LOCALS ARE DOING
OUR SHIRTS UNFORTUNATE. THE
GOVERNOR'S BUDGET CURRENTLY HAS
A REDUCTION IN THE STATE'S
INVESTMENT AND ACTIVE
TRANSPORTATION AND TRANSIT. WE'D
LOVE TO SEE AN OPPORTUNITY TO RE
TELLS ME WE DON'T HAVE ANY
MONEY. I GET IT, YOU KNOW, BUT
WE DO HAVE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES
TO LOOK AT AT MECHANISMS LIKE
EXTENDING THE CAP AND TRADE TO
ALLOW FOR A BONDING. ANYTHING
THAT WE DO MOVING FORWARD THAT
STARTS TO TOUCH ON REDIRECTING
LOCAL MONEY IS A NONSTARTER FOR
US, SO JUST TO PUT THAT ON
RECORD, AND I'VE SAID THIS TO
OUR WORKING GROUP, ANYTHING THAT
GOES AFTER LOCAL DOLLARS WILL
COME OUT AND BE AGGRESSIVELY IN
OPPOSITION TO WE'RE LOOKING TO
ENCOURAGE INCENTIVES. WE THINK
THAT THERE'S OPPORTUNITY FOR
INCENTIVES WE LOOK FORWARD TO
CONTINUE TO WORK DOWN THAT ROAD
. UM AND I THINK THAT THERE'S A
LOT OF OPTIONS FOR CALIFORNIANS
IF WE MAKE THE INVESTMENTS IN
LINING UP OUR STATE, FEDERAL AND
LOCAL DOLLARS MAKES A LOT OF
SENSE. SO WE'RE ABSOLUTELY IN
FAVOR OF TRYING TO GET AS MUCH
MONEY FOR CALIFORNIA'S POSSIBLE
WE THINK THAT CALTRANS IS
STRATEGIC INVESTMENT STRATEGIES
DOCUMENT, WHICH IS A NEW PRISM
FOR WHICH THEY'RE LOOKING AT
APPROVING PROJECTS IS A PROCESS
THAT'S MOVING FORWARD THAT MAY
BE ALIGNED WITH, YOU KNOW THINGS
THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE
WITH THIS BILL THAT THE
ADMINISTRATION IS LOOKING AT
ALREADY, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY THE
TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION
REVIEWS AND ADOPTS POLICIES FOR
HOW PROJECTS ARE FUNDED. AND
THAT'S A PROCESS THAT HAS PLAYED
OUT OVER TIME. SO IT'S
CONCERNING. SOMETIMES WHEN WE
START LOOKING AT REDIRECTING
SOME OF THOSE DECISIONS THAT
HAVE BEEN BORN OUT OVER SB ONE
ON THE DEVELOPMENT OF THOSE
GUIDELINES, BUT AGAIN, WE'RE
HERE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE
PROCESS AND AGAIN. WE'VE LOOKED
TO ENCOURAGE INCENTIVES THAT
MAKE EITHER FUNDING AVAILABLE OR
LOOK FOR INCENTIVES IN EITHER.
MOVING A PROJECT TO THE FRONT OF
THE APPROVAL LINE. AND I'M NOT
GONNA SAY SEQUEL, BUT SOMETHING
LIKE THAT. SO THANK YOU, MR VICE
CHAIR. THANK YOU, MR DONE. UH,
NEXT WITNESS. IN OPPOSITION.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. NICOLE
TRUJILLO RICE ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA STATE BUILDING,
CONSTRUCTION TRADES COUNCIL. UH
WE ARE NOT OPPOSED. WE ARE HAPPY
TO BE AT THE STAKEHOLDERS TABLE
AND HAVING CONVERSATIONS. WE'VE
BEEN ENGAGED WITH THE AUTHOR'S
OFFICE. BUT WE DO ALIGN OUR
COMMENTS WITH MR DUNN AND THE
OTHER BUILDING TRADES AFFILIATES
THAT HAVE BEEN ENGAGED. UM WE
NEED TO BE CAUTIOUSLY OPTIMISTIC
AND AGAIN EXPRESS OUR CONCERNS
WITH ANY REDIRECTION OF
TRANSPORTATION, INFRASTRUCTURE
FUNDING. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THANK YOU FOR EFFICIENCY
PURPOSES. I'M GONNA ASK FOR
ANYONE WHO WANTS TO TESTIFY
EITHER AN OPPOSITION OR IN
SUPPORT, OR WHATEVER POSITION
YOU HAVE TO COME FORWARD IN THE
ROOM. PLEASE COME FORWARD.
EXACTLY YATES, MARY STEINBERG'S
OFFICE AND SUPPORT. SEEING NO
OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE
AUDIENCE GO TO THE OPERATOR.
OPERATIVE ANYONE WANTS TO
PROVIDE PUBLIC TESTIMONY FOR ABC
SEVEN. UH PLEASE, PROCEED WHEN
YOU'RE READY. GUILFORD SUPPORTER
OPPOSITION OF A B SEVEN. YOU MAY
PRESS ONE AND THEN ZERO. AGAIN
THAT IS ONE AND THEN ZERO
SUPPORTER OPPOSITION. AND WE
WILL GO TO LINE 17. YOUR LINE IS
OPEN. LINE 17. YOUR LINE IS
OPEN. OBVIOUSLY MANY YEARS WITH
CALIFORNIA AND GOVERNMENTAL
VOTERS IN SUPPORT OF 87. THANK
YOU. NEXT WE'LL GO TO LINE 19.
YOUR LINE IS OPEN. CAROL WIG
REPRESENTING 3 50 BAY AREA
ACTION IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
NEXT WE'LL GO TO LINE 14. YOUR
LINE IS OPEN. LINE 14. YOUR LINE
IS OPEN. DO YOU HAVE A MUTE?
SHE'S JACK CARTY AT NRDC
EXPRESSING OUR SUPPORT. THANK
YOU, AND WE HAVE NO FURTHER
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION AND QUÊ.
THANK YOU. OPERATOR WILL NOW
BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE
FOR ANY MEMBERS HAVE ANY
QUESTIONS? OTHER QUESTIONS. I
GUESS MY ONLY QUESTION IS, IS
KIND OF ALIGNED TO THE PREVIOUS
ONES. THIS CERTAINLY, UH DOES
DOES KIND OF PROVIDE A
REORGANIZATION OF PRIORITIES AND
AGAIN, UM, IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC
CAPACITY IN ALL THOSE PROJECTS.
I MEAN, DO YOU ENVISION? UM
DIVERSION OF FUNDS FOR ANY AWAY
FROM ANY OF THOSE PROJECTS. THIS
IS REALLY ABOUT HOW THE M P O S
PRIORITIZE THE PROJECTS THAT
THEY HAVE ON THEIR LISTS. AND
ALL OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS HAVE
A VARIETY OF PROJECTS. AND THE
QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW WHICH ONES
RISE TO THE TOP, RIGHT? AND
CERTAINLY WE WOULD LIKE THEM TO
LOOK AT PROJECTS THAT ARE
SUSTAINABLE PROJECTS THAT REDUCE
GHD WHILE MEETING THEIR
TRANSPORTATION NEEDS IN THE
MOBILITY NEEDS OF RESIDENTS. UM
SO AGAIN. WE'RE NOT GOING TO SIT
UP HERE AND PICK PROJECTS FOR
THEM, BUT WE WOULD LIKE THEM TO
TRY TO ALIGN THEIR PROJECT
SELECTION WITH THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT HAS STATED THEIR
PRIORITIES ARE AND WHAT THE
PROJECTS ARE THAT THEY'RE
LOOKING TO TRY TO HELP. THANKS
FUND. WE THINK THAT THERE'S A
REAL BENEFIT TO BRINGING MONEY
INTO THE STATE TO ALIGN OUR
PRIORITY. UM KIND OF CRITERIA
WITH WITH THEIRS. UM. THANK YOU,
MADAM CHAIR. THERE WERE
CERTAINLY BE TIMES WHEN YOU KNOW
AN MPO MAY ONLY HAVE YOU KNOW 11
PROJECT, YOU KNOW, SO IT IT'S
NOT GOING TO NECESSARILY TAKE
MONEY AWAY FROM THEM AND GIVE
THEM TO ANOTHER LOCALITY. IT'S
YOU KNOW, THEY. A OR THAT YOU
KNOW THAT THEY ALREADY HAVE ON
KIND OF ON THEIR WISH LIST. I
APPRECIATE THAT. I THINK THERE'S
ALWAYS THIS. THE NATURAL TENSION
BETWEEN YOU KNOW THERE'S ONLY A
CERTAIN AMOUNT OF RESOURCES
THAT'S OUT THERE AND, YOU KNOW,
WHILE I APPRECIATE IN CERTAIN
AREAS, IT IS WORTHWHILE TO HAVE
MORE ACTIVE TRANSPORT, TRANSPORT
AND TRANSIT IN IN RURAL
COMMUNITIES. YOU KNOW, WE JUST
NEED CAPACITY, ESPECIALLY AS WE
GROW AND AS YOU KNOW, AND AS YOU
SAID BEFORE YOUR PREVIOUS BUILD
THE HOUSING ALIGNMENTS. AS MORE
PEOPLE MOVE INTO MY COMMUNITY,
YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST GOING TO
HAVE A NEED FOR THAT. AND YOU
KNOW 46. I WON'T SPEAK TO MY
COLLEAGUE IN LANCASTER,
PALMDALE. BUT 14. I'VE DRIVEN
THE 14 AND SEEING THAT
CONGESTION. UM WE JUST WE DON'T
WANT TO PREVENT THOSE EXPANSION
PROJECTS FROM HAPPENING BECAUSE
WE NEED TO BUILD THINGS THAT WE
CAN'T AVOID THAT, UM I KNOW WE
HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND
AMENDMENT CHAIR. WOULD YOU LIKE
TO CLOSE? I GUESS I WOULD JUST
SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, I LIVE IN A
COMMUNITY WHERE THE HIGHWAY
RIGHT NEXT TO MY DAUGHTER'S
SCHOOL. THAT'S LITERALLY A
STONE'S THROW FROM AN ELEMENTARY
SCHOOL WAS EXPANDED RECENTLY.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT IF YOU
WENT TO A BIPARTISAN GROUP OF
VOTERS IN MY DISTRICT, IT WOULD
BE PRETTY UNANIMOUS THAT THEY'RE
KIND OF SORRY THAT THAT HIGHWAY
WAS EXPANDED. WE HAVE NOT SEEN A
FREE FLOWING TRAFFIC. IN FACT,
WE SEE MORE CONGESTION. WE SEE,
UH A LOT OF DISRUPTION TO THE
HOUSES THAT WERE AROUND THAT, UM
, THE PROPERTIES THAT WERE
AROUND THAT HIGHWAY AND IT TOOK
ABOUT 15 YEARS. SO I WOULD JUST
SAY FOR COMMUNITIES THAT ARE
GROWING THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT THE
OLD SORT OF 19 FIFTIES 19
SIXTIES HIGHWAY EXPANSION
PROJECTS THAT WERE AROUND LOS
ANGELES AND SAY, IS THAT WHAT WE
WANT OUR COMMUNITIES TO BE, OR
IS THERE A BETTER WAY TO MOVE
PEOPLE AROUND IN A BETTER WAY TO
DEVELOP? AND HOPEFULLY THEY CAN
LEARN FROM OUR MISTAKES AS WELL
. AND DO SOMETHING THAT IS, UM,
STILL IN MEETING WITH THE SAFETY
NEEDS AND THE GROWTH NEEDS OF
COMMUNITIES, BUT DO IT IN A WAY
THAT AVOIDS THOSE PAST MISTAKES,
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO
HAVE. MOVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS
FOR IT AS WELL. AND AGAIN. WE
HAVE A VERY LARGE GROUP OF
STAKEHOLDERS AND I WOULD ASK
YOUR INDULGENCE BUT INDULGENCE
TO ALLOW US TO CONTINUE THOSE
DISCUSSIONS. THANK YOU. THAT UH
, THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. WE
HAVE A MOTION IN SECOND. MADAM
SECRETARY. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
A B SEVEN. THE MOTION IS DO PASS
AND REFER TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. FRIEDMAN. BY
FRIEDMAN. I PHªN PHªN KNOW.
BERMAN BERMAN, CARILLO VÚI
DAVIES DAVIES NO, GIBSON. GIBSON
I HEART. PART II. JACKSON
JACKSON I CHOLERA. ALRIGHT I
LOWENTHAL THOUGHT I WIN WHEN I
SANCHEZ SANCHEZ KNOW WALLACE.
WALLACE, NO BOARD. WICKS. AYE.
AND THEN FOUR. 10 4. WE'LL LEAVE
THE VOTE. ROLL OPEN FOR ABSENT
MEMBERS. MR GIBSON IS ON A ROLL
IT WANTS TO MOVE TO. I THINK
THAT CONCLUDES OUR FILE. I
THINK, UM YOU CAN SEND ALBUM
GONNA HAND THE GAVEL BACK OVER
TO THE CHAIR FOR THAT. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU ALL. CAN WE HAVE
A MOTION ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR
MOTION IN A SECOND ROLL CALL,
PLEASE. FRIEDMAN FRIEDMAN, I
FONG FROM MY BERMAN BERMAN I
CARILLO VÚI DAVIES DAVIES, I
GIBSON GIBSON I HEART AYE.
JACKSON JACKSON. I CHOLERA.
COLBERT I. LOWENTHAL ONE THOUGHT
I WIN WHEN I SANCHEZ SANCHEZ, I
WALLACE WALLACE. I WARD. WORD
FOR THE CONSENT CALENDAR. OH,
SORRY, WICKS. WICKS. AYE. 14 TO
0. THE CONSENT CALENDAR IS
ADOPTED. LET'S GO TO THE TOP AND
START. UH, HE WROTE CALL ON THE
BILLS. A B 276. THE MOTION IS DO
PASS AND REFER TO THE COMMITTEE
ON APPROPRIATIONS. FRIEDMAN
FRIEDMAN I, FONG FONG I BERMAN.
FURMAN NOT VOTING. CORIO VÚI
DAVIES BABIES I GIBSON GIBSON I
HEART JACKSON. UM JACKSON, I
CHOLERA. ALBERT I LOWENTHAL AND
THOUGHT I WIN WHEN I SANCHEZ.
CENTURIES I WALLACE WALLACE, I
AWARD WIX WIX. AYE. 13 VOTES.
THE BILL IS OUT. MAYBE 6 30.
IT'S DO PASS AND REFER TO
APPROPRIATIONS. FRIEDMAN. WE
NEED EMOTION, EMOTIONS. WE HAVE
A MOTION IN A SECOND. OKAY, ROLL
CALL. I'M AN EYE. FRIEDMAN IS I,
FONG FONG. I BERMAN. ALRIGHT I
CARILLO DAVIES DAVIES. I GIBSON
GIBSON I HEART. ART I JACKSON
JACKSON I CHOLERA. ALRIGHT I
LOWENTHAL ONE THOUGHT I WIN WHEN
I SANCHEZ. UH SANCHEZ, I WALLACE
WALLACE. I WARD WICKS. WICKS.
AYE. 14 THAT BILL IS OUT. WE'RE
GOING TO MOVE TO A B 7 56. CAN
WE HAVE A MOTION? EMOTION IN A
SECOND ROLL CALL, PLEASE, ABC 7
56. DO YOU PASS AND REFER TO
ENVIRONMENTAL SAFETY AND TOXIC
MATERIALS. FRIEDMAN FRIEDMAN,
IPHONE FOUND NOT VOTING. BERMAN
BERMAN I CARILLO HØI DAVIES
BABIES NO. GIBSON GIBSON I HEART
. PART I JACKSON JACKSON, I
CHOLERA ALRIGHT, I LOWENTHAL ONE
THOUGHT I WIN WHEN I SANCHEZ.
SANCHEZ, NOT VOTING, WALLACE.
WHILE IT'S NOT VOTING WARD WIGS
MIX. I. AND. 10 TO 3. THAT BILL
IS OUT. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE NOW
TO A B 14 36. WE HAVE A MOTION.
AND IT'S SORRY, 14. 14 63. WE
HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
MAYBE 14 63 DO PASS AND REFERRED
TO THE COMMITTEE ON PRIVACY AND
CONSUMER PROTECTION. FRIEDMAN
FRIEDMAN IPHONE FANG. NO BERMAN
BERMAN. I CARILLO RIO I DAVIES
DAVIES NO GIBSON. GIBSON. I
HEART ART I JACKSON JACKSON, I
CHOLERA COVER I LOWENTHAL
LOWENTHAL, I WIN. WHEN NOT
VOTING. SANCHEZ SANCHEZ KNOW
WALLACE. WALLACE. NO WARD WICKS.
WICKS. AYE. NINE. 94. IT'S 9249
TO 4. YEAH THAT BILL GETS OUT.
MOVING TO FILE M SIX A B 83 TO
CALL THE ROLL, MADAM CHAIR.
MAYBE 832 IS DO PASS AND
REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. PHªN FUNG, NO,
GIPSON. GIBSON. AYE. WALLACE
WARD. OKAY? 10 TO 3. THAT BILL
GETS OUT. UH VIOLET ITEMS. SEVEN
A B 12 67. MADAM CHAIR. PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL. OKAY MAYBE 12 67
IS DO PASS AND RE REFERRED TO
THE COMMITTEE ON NATURAL
RESOURCES. AYE. WARD. WORD WE'RE
ON A B 12 67. OH I'M SORRY. WARD
I THAT'S 15. IF 15 0 THAT BILL
GETS OUT UH, FILE ITEM EIGHT A B
13 35. I'M CHAIR CALDWELL 13 35
DO PASS AND REFER TO
APPROPRIATIONS FONG VOTING, NOT
VOTING. DAVIES DAVIES, NO.
WALLACE. WALLACE. NO WARD. WORD.
I. I DO. LOVE INTO 3 11 TO 3.
THAT BILL GETS OUT. AH WE'RE
GOING TO FILE ITEM 10, MAYBE 10
82. MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL EM. OKAY MAYBE 10 82 IS
DO PASS AND REFER TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS.
FONG FONG. AYE. I APOLOGIZE AND
NOT VOTING, NOT VOTING. WARD.
WORD. I IT'S 11 TO 2. 11 TO 2.
THAT BELL GETS OUT. FILE ITEM.
WE DID 12 ALREADY. VIOLET OR
MOVING TO FILL ON 14 A B SIX, UM
BIO ITEMS. OH, I'M SORRY, BUT
I'M 12, MR WARD. UH FILE ITEM 12
. MAYBE. 14 63 PASS REFERRED TO
COMMITTEE ON PRIVACY AND
CONSUMER PROTECTION WARD I AND
FOUR 10 4 BILL GETS OUT. AH A B
NOW MOVING TO A B 65 AND 14 AND
I'M CHEROKEE. MADAM SECRETARY,
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. MAYBE SIX.
Dð PASIN REFERRED TO
APPROPRIATIONS. WARD. WORD I 11
2. IN THE THREE THAT GETS OUT 11
15 A B SEVEN. OH, THIS WEEK I
HAD IN MIND. BRUNO OKAY, I'M
SORRY. THE VOTE COUNT ON A B 832
IS 11 TO 4. HAVING TO HIGHLIGHT,
UM 15. THAT WAS A B 65 AND 14
SORRY. I THOUGHT YOU WERE SAYING
WHILE I AM MILE ITEMS SIX ITEM
14 86 ITEMS SIX. MAYBE 832
REMAINS 11 TO 3. SORRY FOR THE
CONFUSION. A B SIX ITEM NUMBER
14. IS DO PASSENGER REFER TO
NATURAL RESOURCES AND I HAVE
WARD. WORD. I AND WALLACE IS A
NO. CORRECT 11 TO 4 BEFORE THAT
BILL GETS OUT AND THEN FILE ITEM
15, ABC SEVEN. MAYBE SEVEN IS DO
PASS AND RE REFER TO
APPROPRIATIONS. WARD. WORD IS I
? IT'S 11 TO 4 TO FOUR BILL GETS
OUT. I THINK MR WARD HAS TO ADD
ONTO A FEW MORE. SO LET'S JUST
ROLL ROLL THROUGH FOR MR WARD.
SO FILE ITEM 1 82 76 WARD. WORD
I THAT'S 14. KAREN 14 0. THAT
WAS A B 276 NUMBER FIVE ON ONE.
VILE ITEM. WHAT DO WE DO CONSENT
FOR MR WARD? THE CONSENT
CALENDAR AWARD. WORD I MEAN, 15
0. FILE ITEM FOUR FOR MR WARD
ITEM FOUR. A. B 6 30 DO PASS TO
APPROPRIATIONS WARD WARD. I 15 0
15 05. ADAM FIVE'S ABC 756 DO
PASS AND REFERRED TO COMMITTEE
ON ENVIRONMENTAL SAFETY AND
TOXIC MATERIALS. WARD WORD IS I
11-3 11-3 FOR FIVE AND FIVE
WHILE I'M SIX, MAYBE 8 32. MR
WARD DID DID DID WE GET MR WE
GET AS EVERYONE WHICH ONE DID
OH, MY APOLOGIES. I GOT A LITTLE
CONFUSED ON THAT ONE. SO, UM
MAYBE 83 TO DO PASS AND REFERRED
TO COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
WARD. WORD. I HAVE 11 2. 11. TO
12 TO 3 MONTHS TO THREE. THE
BILL GETS OUT. I THINK I THINK
WE GOT EVERYBODY ALL RIGHT. THIS
COMMITTEE IS NOW ADJOURNED.