GOOD AFTERNOON. TODAY'S HEARING
IS A JOINT HEARING WITH ASSEMBLY
BUDGET SUBCOMMITTEE NUMBER FIVE
ON PUBLIC SAFETY AND BUDGET
SUBCOMMITTEE NUMBER TWO ON
EDUCATION FINANCE. I WANT TO
WELCOME THE CHAIR WHEN HE GETS
HERE OF SUB TO ASSEMBLY MEMBER
MCCARTHY AS WELL AS THE OTHER
MEMBERS TODAY. WE WILL HAVE
THREE PANELS, STARTING WITH THE
L A. OH, WHO WILL PROVIDE? OH,
SORRY. WHO WILL PROVIDE AN
OVERVIEW FOLLOWED BY PANEL TO
WHICH WILL FOCUS ON K 12
EDUCATION AND PANEL THREE
FOCUSING ON HIGHER EDUCATION. I
WANT TO THANK ALL OF OUR
PANELISTS TODAY WHO HAVE
TRAVELED FROM AROUND THE STATE
TO BE A PART OF A VERY IMPORTANT
CONVERSATION. THAT IS ALSO VERY
TIMELY. WE WILL BE TAKING PUBLIC
COMMENTS AT THE END OF THE
HEARING, LIKE TO OPEN WITH SOME
COMMENTS AND THEN PASS IT ON.
TWO OTHER MEMBERS WHO MAY WISH
TO MAKE A STATEMENT AS WELL.
PRIMARY EDUCATION AND HIGHER
EDUCATION PROGRAMS IN OUR YOUTH
CORRECTIONAL FACILITIES FACE
UNIQUE CHALLENGES, INCLUDING THE
CORRECTIONAL SETTING ITSELF AND
WHETHER THERE IS A CONDUCIVE
SPACE FOR LEARNING WITH OUR
YOUTH AND WITHIN OUR YOUTH
CORRECTIONAL FACILITIES, WHETHER
THE PROCESS IN PLACE IS
COORDINATED TO ENSURE THE LEAST
AMOUNT OF INTERRUPTION IN A
CHILD'S EDUCATION. WITH GREAT
VARIANTS UNLIKELY EDUCATIONAL
DISRUPTION FROM ONE COUNTY TO
THE NEXT. INCLUDING THE FACT
THAT YOUTH THEMSELVES ENTERING
THE JUVENILE JUSTICE SYSTEM ARE
MORE LIKELY TO FACE A MYRIAD OF
ISSUES, INCLUDING ADVERSE
RESPONSE TO CHILDHOOD TRAUMA,
MENTAL HEALTH NEEDS AND OTHER
FACTORS LIKELY TO HAVE
CONTRIBUTED TO THEIR
ENTANGLEMENT IN THE CARCEL
SYSTEM IN THE FIRST PLACE AS
YOUTH. AND WHETHER THE
FACILITIES FUNDING MECHANISMS.
COORDINATION BETWEEN AGENCIES
AND STAFF TRAINING ARE ALL
GEARED TOWARDS PRIORITIZING THE
BEST POSSIBLE EDUCATIONAL
PROGRAM FOR YOUNG PEOPLE WITH
THE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT THAT A
QUALITY EDUCATION CAN REVERSE
THE TRAJECTORY. OF THE JUSTICE
SYSTEM INVOLVED YOUTH THAT THEY
ARE ALREADY ON. THE TIMING OF
THIS HEARING IS EVEN MORE
CRITICAL CONSIDERING THE PENDING
CLOSURE OF THE DIVISION OF
JUVENILE JUSTICE AND ADDITIONAL
RESPONSIBILITY, THIS MEANS FOR
OUR COUNTY PARTNERS. WHILE WE
KNOW THAT EACH COUNTY IS
DISTINCT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE
THAT FLEXIBILITY AND EDUCATIONAL
PROGRAM DELIVERS STILL UPHOLDS
OUR SHARED VALUE THAT OUR
GEOGRAPHY SHOULD NOT UNDERMINE
JUSTICE. AND IN THIS CASE, THE
EDUCATION OF CHILD A CHILD
RECEIVES. I COME TO THIS HEARING
TODAY WITH MUCH CURIOSITY TO
HEAR ABOUT BOTH THE CHALLENGES
AND OPPORTUNITIES FROM OUR
PANELISTS. SO THAT WE CAN THINK
THROUGH TOGETHER WAYS TO NOT
ONLY IMPROVE PUBLIC SAFETY, BUT
TO IMPROVE THE OUTCOMES FOR OUR
YOUTH. WITH THAT, UH, IF THERE
ARE ANY OTHER MEMBERS WHO WOULD
LIKE TO MAKE COMMENT AT THIS
TIME? YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU.
WE WILL ASK OUR PANELISTS TO
INTRODUCE THEMSELVES BY BEFORE
SPEAKING AND TO KEEP THEIR
REMARKS WITHIN THE TIME LIMIT
YOU'VE BEEN GIVEN SO THAT WE CAN
HAVE VERY SUFFICIENT TIME FOR
QUESTIONS. I WILL PAUSE AFTER
EACH PANEL FOR QUESTIONS FROM
THE MEMBERS. THE L. A HAS
PROVIDED A HANDOUT FOR THE
MEMBERS FOR THEIR OVERVIEW, AND
IT HAS BEEN POSTED ON THE
WEBSITE FOR THE PUBLIC AS WELL.
WE WILL NOW BEGIN WITH PANEL
ONE. OVERVIEW OF EDUCATION AND
COUNTY JUVENILE CORRECTIONAL
FACILITIES AND REALIGNMENT OF
THE DIVISION OF JUVENILE JUSTICE
AND WILL BEGIN WITH MR ORLANDO
SANCHEZ OF ALLAH, THE
LEGISLATIVE AND ALL THIS OFFICE.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR AS
MENTIONED. MY NAME IS ORLANDO
SANCHEZ WITH THE L A, AND I'LL
BE PRESENTING AN OVERVIEW. THE
JUVENILE JUSTICE SYSTEM AND
EDUCATION SERVICES, PROVIDED MY
L. A ALL COLLEAGUES ARE HERE TO
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL AS
HE RELATE TO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS
THAT COME UP. WE'RE PREPARED TO
HAND OUT MANY OF YOU MET WHERE
YOU CAN FOLLOW ALONG. BUT
GENERALLY SPEAKING, A YOUTH
ENTERS THE JUVENILE JUSTICE
SYSTEM THROUGH AN ARREST AND
FOLLOWING AN ARREST YOUTH.
SORRY, GENERALLY. TURNED OVER TO
COUNTY PROBATION DEPARTMENTS
WHERE THEY MAY BE HELD FOR A
SHORT TIME IN A JUVENILE
FACILITY. EVERY CASE FOR A CRIME
COMMITTED BY SOMEONE BEFORE THEY
TURN 18 STARTS IN THE JUVENILE
COURT. AFTER THE JUVENILE COURT
PROCEEDINGS IF A COURT FINDS
THAT THE YOUTH IS RESPONSIBLE
FOR THE CRIME, IT THEN
DETERMINES WHERE TO PLACE A
YOUTH BASED ON SEVERAL FACTORS.
THE VAST MAJORITY OF YOUTH ARE
PLACED. UNDER COUNTY SUPERVISION
, WHERE THEY MAY BE PLACED WITH
THEIR WITH THEIR FAMILIES AND
SUPERVISED BY PROBATION. OTHERS
ARE PLACED IN COUNTY JUVENILE
FACILITIES SUCH AS JUVENILE
HALLS, CAMPS OR RANCHES. YOUTHS
ARE RELEASED FROM THESE
FACILITIES WHEN THE JUVENILE
COURT DETERMINES THAT THEY ARE
READY FOR RELEASE OR AFTER THEY
REACHED THE MAXIMUM AGE IN THE
JUVENILE FACILITIES, WHICH HAS
HISTORICALLY BEEN AGED 21. AND
THROUGH THIS PROCESS, IT CAN BE
HOUSED FROM A FEW HOURS IN THE
CASES OF ARREST TO A FEW YEARS
IN SUCH FACILITIES. IN 2020 TO
41 COUNTIES MAINTAINED JUVENILE
FACILITIES AND THE STATEWIDE
POPULATION WAS ABOUT 2200 YOUTHS
WITH INDIVIDUAL COUNTY
POPULATIONS RANGING FROM 3 TO
439 YOUTHS. MOST YOUTHS ENTERING
THE FACILITIES ARE BETWEEN 15
AND 17 YEARS OLD AND MAIL AND
COMBINE LATINO, HISPANICS AND
AFRICAN AMERICAN YOUTHS ACCOUNT
FOR ROUGHLY THREE QUARTERS OF
THE TOTAL POPULATION, ADMITTED
UNTIL 21 22. YOU TOOK COMMITTED
, SERIOUS CRIMES LISTED IN
STATUTE COULD BE PLACED IN THE
STATE. OPERATED DIVISION OF
JUVENILE JUSTICE, WHICH ARE
REFERRED TO AS D. J. J. THE
STATE IS IN THE PROCESS OF
SHIFTING OR REALIGNING THE
RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE REMAINING
YOUTHS, TWO COUNTIES AT D. J. J
RELEASE IS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT
FROM THE JUVENILE FACILITIES.
YOUTHS MAY REMAIN IN D. J. J
UNTIL THEY ARE RELEASED BY THE
BOARD OF JUVENILE HEARINGS OR
THEY REACH THE MAXIMUM AGE,
WHICH IS GENERALLY 23 OR 25,
DEPENDING ON INDIVIDUAL
CIRCUMSTANCES. THE AVERAGE
LENGTH OF STAY IN D. J. J IS
ABOUT TWO YEARS. IN 21 22 THE
POPULATION FOR D J J FACILITIES
WAS 640 YOUTHS ACROSS FOUR
FACILITIES WHILE THE AGES OF THE
YOUTHS RANGED FROM 14 TO 25. THE
AVERAGE AGE WAS ABOUT 19.5 YEARS
OLD. MALES COMPRISE ABOUT 95% OF
THE D. J J POPULATION AND LATINO
, HISPANICS AND AFRICAN AMERICAN
YOUTHS ACCOUNT FOR ROUGHLY 90%
OF THE D J. J POPULATION. IN
RARE INSTANCES, A JUVENILE COURT
MAY CHOOSE TO TRANSFER CASES TO
THE ADULT CRIMINAL COURT. IN THE
NEXT SECTION OF THE HANDOUTS,
STARTING ON PAGE THREE. WE COVER
THE TRANSITION OF RESPONSIBILITY
FROM THE STATE TO COUNTIES. FOR
JUVENILE D J. J YOUTHS. THIS IS
PART OF A LONG TERM SHIFT.
LOOKING BACK AT THE POPULATION
OF YOUTHS IN THE JUVENILE
FACILITIES. IN 1996 ABOUT 20,400
YOUTHS WAREHOUSE IN ANY JUVENILE
FACILITY, AND ROUGHLY HALF WERE
AT D. J. J. SINCE THEN, THE
STATE TOOK VARIOUS STEPS TO
INCREASED COUNTY RESPONSIBILITY
AND SUCH AS BY INCREASING THE
COST TO HOUSE SOMEONE I, D. J. J
AND LIMITING THE TYPES OF D J. J
YOUTH THAT COULD BE SENT AND
YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THERE'S BEEN
A DRAMATIC DECLINE IN THE
POPULATION SINCE 1996 FOR BOTH D
J. J AND COUNTY JUVENILE
FACILITIES, AND THIS IS RELATED
TO SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION IN
JUVENILE ARREST HAPPENING
STATEWIDE. AND THEN UNDER
LEGISLATION ADOPTED IN 2020
RESPONSIBILITY FOR D J. J YOUTHS
IS BEING FULLY REALIGNED. FROM
THE STATE TO COUNTIES. WITHIN
TAKE TWO D. J. J HAPPY HAPPENING
GENERALLY. HAVING GENERALLY
STOPPED IN THE 21 22 BUDGET
YEAR. THE REALIGNMENT
LEGISLATION ALSO CHANGE THE
MAXIMUM AGE THAT COUNTIES COULD
HOLD YOUTHS IN THEIR FACILITIES.
IN MOST CASES, YOUTH WERE THAT
WOULD HAVE BEEN ELIGIBLE FOR D J
. J TH LIMIT NOW HAS INCREASED
FROM 21 TO 23. IN CERTAIN CASES
, THEY MAY BE HOUSE UP TO AGE 25
SIMILAR TO D. J. J. UNDER
REALIGNMENT, D. J. J WILL NOW
CLOSE IN JULY OF THIS YEAR, AND
YOU'D STILL HOUSED AT THE
FACILITIES AT THAT TIME WILL BE
TRANSFERRED TO THE COUNTIES. AS
OF MARCH, 25TH THERE WERE ABOUT
290 YOUTH REMAINING AT THE
FACILITIES. D J. J STAFF ARE
CURRENTLY COMPLETING
INDIVIDUALIZED TRANSITION PLANS
, AND THESE PLANS CONTAIN
INFORMATION SUCH AS EACH YOUTH'S
NEEDS. PARTICIPATION IN PROGRAMS
, EDUCATION AND SECURITY
CONCERNS. AND TO ASSIST THE
COUNTIES WITH THE INCREASED
RESPONSIBILITY. THE STATE IS
PROVIDING ANNUAL FUNDING BASED
ON A FORMULA ALLOCATION. AND
THIS FUNDING IS EXPECTED TO
REACH ABOUT 200 MILLION IN THE
24 25 BUDGET YEAR. IN ADDITION,
THE STATE PROVIDED ABOUT 110
MILLION SPECIFICALLY FOR
JUVENILE FACILITIES. AT THE TIME
THE REALIGNMENT LEGISLATION WAS
IN ACTED, A TOTAL OF 926 YOUTH
WERE PROJECT. WE'RE PROJECTED TO
BE SHIFTED AT THE COUNTY LEVEL
BY FULL IMPLEMENTATION AT AT THE
BUDGET YEAR. 24 25. THIS WOULD
HAVE REPRESENTED ABOUT 26%
INCREASE FROM THE 2019 COUNTY
POPULATION. HOWEVER WE WANT TO
NOTE THAT IN 2022, THE COUNTY
POPULATION I WAS ABOUT 1400
YOUTHS FEWER THAN THE 2020 19
PRE REALIGNMENT LEVEL AT THIS
TIME. IT'S UNCLEAR AS TO WHY
THIS REDUCTION AT THE COUNTY
JUVENILE POPULATION THE SCENE IN
THE 20 TO 2022 DATA. BUT IT
COULD REFLECT IMPACTS OF THE
PANDEMIC OR CONTINUED DOWNWARD
TREND OF JUVENILE ARRESTS.
MOVING ON TO PAGE FIVE OF THE
HANDOUT. IT COVERS SOME OF THE
POSTS SOME OF THE EDUCATION
SERVICES, INCLUDING
POSTSECONDARY OFFERED IN D. J.
J. STATE LAW REQUIRES THE
DEPARTMENT. THE DEPARTMENT OF
JUVENILE JUSTICE TO OFFER HIGH
SCHOOL GRADUATION. OR UP TO A
HIGH SCHOOL EDUCATION, WHICH CAN
INCLUDE CAREER TECHNICAL
EDUCATION, OR CT. AND D. J. J
HIRES TEACHERS TO TEACH THESE
COURSES. IN RECENT YEARS, D. J.
J GRADUATED OVER 100 STUDENTS
AND OVER 100 EARNED CT
CERTIFICATIONS ANNUALLY. UM THE
DIVISION ALSO INDICATES THAT
ABOUT 50% OF ITS YOUTH HAVE HAD
A HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA OR
EQUIVALENT IN THE YEAR. 21 22.
THEY ALSO INDICATE THAT ABOUT 25
TO 30% OF THE YOUTH RECEIVED
SPECIAL EDUCATION SERVICES. AND
ABOUT 20% RECEIVE ENGLISH
LEARNERS SERVICES. SO AFTER YOU
COMPLETE HIGH SCHOOL IN D. J J.
THEY CAN ADVANCE TO COLLEGE
LEVEL COURSES OR THAT LEADS TO
AN ASSOCIATES DEGREE OR
ADDITIONAL CT CERTIFICATIONS.
AND ACCORDING TO D. J. J IT'S
FACILITIES PARTNER WITH SIX
COMMUNITY COLLEGES AND ONE CSU
CAMPUS. AND COMMUNITY COLLEGES
RECEIVED PER STUDENT FUNDING FOR
THESE EDUCATIONAL COSTS IN 22 23
. THAT AMOUNT WAS ABOUT 6800 PER
STUDENT AND COMMUNITY COLLEGES
COULD ALSO COVER THE COST OF
SUPPORT SERVICES THROUGH
CATEGORICAL PROGRAMS. AT D. J J
AND ROMAN FEES ARE WAIVED FOR
STUDENTS. AND BETWEEN SPRING
2020 AND THE FALL 2022 SEMESTER
, AN AVERAGE OF ABOUT 80
STUDENTS COMPLETED OF COURSE, IS
. THEN LASTLY, WITHIN THIS,
SECTION D. J. J RECEIVES ABOUT
20 MILLION, PRIMARILY FROM THE
PROPOSITION 98 GENERAL FUND TO
OPERATE ITS PROGRAMS, WHICH IS
ABOUT 24,600 PER YOUTH IN THE 21
22 YEAR. PAGE, A COVER SOME OF
THESE SERVICES OFFERED IN
COUNTIES. AND SIMILAR TO D. J. J
STATE LAW REQUIRES THAT THE
COUNTY OFFICES OF EDUCATIONS OR
C O ES TO OFFER EDUCATION
SERVICES LEADING UP TO A HIGH
SCHOOL DIPLOMA OR EQUIVALENT FOR
THOSE HOUSED IN THE JUVENILE
FACILITIES. INSTRUCTION IS
PROVIDED BY C O E STAFF TO THOSE
WITHOUT A DIPLOMA, EVEN THOSE
BEYOND THE AGE OF 18. AND COUNTY
JUVENILE SQUAWS ARE ALSO
REQUIRED TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL
SUPPORT FOR SPECIAL EDUCATION
AND ENGLISH LINK LANGUAGE
LEARNER NEEDS. AND THE STATE
PROVIDES CEO ES WITH PER STUDENT
FUNDING THROUGH THE LOCAL
CONTROL FUNDING FORMULA OR L C.
F F AND T I E S RECEIVE ABOUT
21,000 PER STUDENT. IN THE
CURRENT SCHOOL YEARS. HE ALWAYS
GENERATED ABOUT 70 MILLION AND
THEY'LL CFF FUNDING. FORCES
SPECIFICALLY FOR STUDENTS IN
COUNTY JUVENILE FACILITIES. AND
C O S ALSO RECEIVED FEDERAL
TITLE ONE AND STATE LOTTERY
SUPPORT FOR THEIR SCHOOLS,
INCLUDING COUNTY JUVENILE SCORES
SIMILAR TO D. J. J. AND SOME
COUNTY JUVENILE SCHOOLS PARTNER
WITH COMMUNITY COLLEGES TO OFFER
POST SECONDARY COURSES AND
CURRENTLY ABOUT 22 COMMUNITY
COLLEGES HAVE SUCH AGREEMENTS.
THE STATE DOES NOT TRACK HOW
MANY STUDENTS ARE ENROLLED AND
COMPLETED THE COURSES IN THE
COUNTY JUVENILE FACILITIES. BUT
THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE
CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE IS PLANNING
TO BE AGAIN COLLECTING SOME OF
THIS DATA LATER THIS YEAR. AND
FUNDING FOR COLLEGE COURSES ARE
THE SAME AS IN D. J. J COMMUNITY
COLLEGES ALSO RECEIVE PER
STUDENT FUNDING FOR THEIR
EDUCATIONAL COSTS. WITH
ADDITIONAL FUNDING POTENTIALLY
COMING FROM THE COLLEGE
CATEGORICAL PROGRAMS. AS WITH D.
J J. YOUTHS IN COUNTY JUVENILE
SCHOOLS ALSO HAVE THEIR
ENROLLMENT FEES WAIVED AND
LASTLY, IN THE LAST BUDGET THE
STATE INCLUDED ABOUT 15 MILLION
ONGOING PROPOSITION 98 GENERAL
FUND FOR THE RISING SCHOLARS
JUVENILE JUSTICE PROGRAM TO
PROVIDE SUPPORT SERVICES. THE
YOUTH AND THE JUVENILE JUSTICE
SYSTEM. THIS MONTH. THE
COMMUNITY COLLEGE CHANCELLOR'S
OFFICE BEGAN SOLICITING
APPLICATIONS FOR THE FOR UP TO
45 COLLEGES TO RECEIVE THESE
GRANTS AND SELECTED COLLEGES ARE
TO RECEIVE 300,000 PER YEAR FOR
FIVE YEARS TO HIRE PROGRAM STAFF
AND PROVIDE THE SUPPORT
SERVICES. WE ALSO WANT TO NOTE
THAT THIS GRANT IS MODELED AFTER
THE PROJECT CHANGED PROGRAM
STARTED AT THE COLLEGE OF SAN
MATEO. IN PANEL THREE. YOU'LL
HEAR FROM THE FROM
REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE RISING
SCHOLARS NETWORK AND FROM A
REPRESENTATIVE OF THE COUNTY OF
SAN MARTEL AND HAPPY TO TAKE
QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
. I'LL OPEN IT UP TO OUR
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. SURE. BUT
THANK YOU JUST JUST CURIOUS
ABOUT. BIG FAN OF CAREER
TECHNICAL TRAINING. ESPECIALLY
FOR YOUTH THAT AREN'T UH,
AMENABLE OR WANT TO GO TO
COLLEGE. IN FACT, I BELIEVE. BY
WITH A CARPENTER, ELECTRICIAN
AND PLUMBER. I'D PROBABLY BE A
LOT BETTER OFF DEFINITELY WOULD
NOT BE HERE AND PROBABLY MAKE A
WHOLE LOT MORE MONEY RIGHT NOW.
UM SO WHEN YOU THINK CAREER
TECHNICAL EDUCATION ARE YOU
SAYING THEY WILL BECOME
APPRENTICE CARPENTER,
ELECTRICIAN PLUMBER DRY WALLERS
ROOFERS. OR ARE WE TALKING
ABOUT? THAT? ARE WE TALKING
ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE? THAT YES,
IT CAN VARY BY COUNTY BY COUNTY
. IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE
JUVENILE FACILITIES, UM, BUT
WITHIN THE D J. J FACILITY, IT
IS OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY
RECEIVED SUCH TRAINING FOR TO
RECEIVE TOWARDS CERTIFICATIONS,
WHICH CAN BE CONSTRUCTION.
VARIOUS OTHERS, UM TYPES OF
TRAININGS. SO DO THEY, THEN
LEAVE. STREET GANGS BECOME UNION
MEMBERS. IT'S DEAD. OR IS IT.
YOU GET A LITTLE PIECE OF PAPER
AND GOOD LUCK IF YOU CAN GET A
JOB. HOW WAS I MEAN? I DON'T
KNOW WHAT YES. YOU DO ALL THIS
TRAINING AND THEN JUST LET THEM
GO, DO YOU BECAUSE IT SOUNDS
LIKE YOU'RE NOW STARTING TO KEEP
TRACK OF YOUR RESULTS THAT YOU
KNOW ONCE ONCE PEOPLE UM, GET
THIS KIND OF EDUCATION. UM I GET
THE FEELING YOU MAY OR MAY NOT
KNOW WHAT HAPPENS TO THEM
AFTERWARDS. WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANY
DATA THAT WE COULD PRESENT TODAY
ON AND WHAT THE OUTCOMES OF SOME
OF THE CT OUTCOMES ARE. I THINK
THAT WOULD MIGHT BE GOOD TO DO.
AND YEAH, WE WE'VE CERTAINLY IN
THE PAST HAVE RECOMMENDED ON
SUCH INFORMATION BE COLLECTED.
FROM VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS. I
THINK MORE BROADLY, UH, THE
QUESTION THAT MEMBER JOHN SAWYER
IS GETTING OUT IS WHAT KIND OF
OVERSIGHT REALLY IS THERE AROUND
THE EDUCATIONAL OUTCOMES OF AND
THE EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS IN
JUVENILE FACILITIES FROM YOUR
PERSPECTIVE? I'LL DEFER TO MY
COLLEAGUES I CAN ANSWER ON THE
ON THE JUVENILE SCORE SIDE.
MICHAEL ALL FEDERAL LEGISLATIVE
ANALYST'S OFFICE, SO IT'S OUR
UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU KNOW A
LOT OF COUNTY STATE PARTNER WITH
COUNTY COMMUNITY COLLEGES TO
OFFER COURSES THAT ARE FOR
COLLEGE CREDIT THAT THEY WOULD
BE ABLE TO THEN GO TO ENROLL AT
A COMMUNITY COLLEGE AFTERWARDS
OR GET A CERTIFICATE AND BE ABLE
TO GO INTO THE FIELD. BUT I
THINK SIMILAR TO ANYBODY THAT
GETS A CERTIFICATE IN THESE
FIELDS THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO AND
PROBABLY FIND THEIR OWN. JOB IS
OUR UNDERSTANDING, AND WE DON'T
HAVE STATEWIDE DATA THEY COLLECT
COLLECT THIS INFORMATION, BUT
CERTAINLY IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT
TO KIND OF LOOK AT THE OVERALL
EFFECTIVENESS OF THESE TYPE OF
PROGRAMS. YEAH GOOD AFTERNOON.
PAUL STEEN HOUSING, ALSO WITH
THE LEGISLATIVE ANALYST'S OFFICE
. SO MY ASSIGNMENT I HANDLE
CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY COLLEGES
AND I CAN TELL YOU. IT'S BEEN
SOMEWHAT FRUSTRATING, TOO. GET
DATA ON EVEN ENROLLMENT.
CERTAINLY OUTCOMES. FOR YOUTH
AND, UH, COUNTY FACILITIES, UH,
CURRENTLY THROUGH THE COMMUNITY
COLLEGE INFORMATION SYSTEM, THE
DATA SYSTEM. IT DOES NOT
DISTINGUISH BETWEEN INDIVIDUALS.
WHO ARE IN ADULT. CORRECTIONAL
FACILITY OR A JUVENILE, A YOUTH
IN A JUVENILE FACILITY. IT'S
JUST GOES INTO ONE DATA ELEMENT.
WITHIN THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE
CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE DATA SYSTEM.
AND SO THE LEGISLATURE DOESN'T
HAVE ANY WAY RIGHT NOW. TEASING
OUT. OKAY WELL, HOW ARE THE
YOUTH IN THE JUVENILE FACILITIES
DOING THESE COUNTY FACILITIES
VERSUS THE ADULTS. NOW THAT'S
GOING TO CHANGE STARTING IN THE
SUMMER. THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE
CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE IS ADDING A
REQUIREMENT FOR DISTRICTS TO
REPORT ON JUVENILE'S IN THE
JUVENILE FACILITIES VERSUS
ADULTS IN ADULT FACILITIES
THAT'S GOING TO GIVE THE
LEGISLATURE BETTER INFORMATION
AND I THINK IT'S THAT CHANGE IS
COMING BECAUSE OF THE SHIFT, UH
, WITH REALIGNMENT AND ALSO THE
RISING SCHOLARS JUVENILE JUSTICE
PROGRAM THAT MY COLLEAGUE JUST
MENTIONED. SO LEGISLATURE WILL
BE GETTING, UH BETTER
INFORMATION ON WHAT HAPPENS TO
THESE INDIVIDUALS. WHAT KIND OF
AWARDS ARE THEY EARNING? WHAT
KIND OF JOBS ARE THEY GETTING?
WHAT ARE THEIR INCOMES AND THAT
SORT OF THING THAT WILL BE MUCH
BETTER INFORMATION SET WITH
WHICH THE LEGISLATURE TO
EVALUATE THESE KIND OF PROGRAMS
. JUST THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD.
UM ON OUR RY RETURN ON
INVESTMENT. LOOK AT ALL THESE
PROGRAMS IS INVESTMENT,
OBVIOUSLY INTO YOUNG PEOPLE. BUT
IT ALSO INTO THE FUTURE OF
CALIFORNIA, MAKING IT STRONGER
AND PLUS THE INFORMATION. GET
BACK TO US. UM I THINK THE
MEMBERS WILL BE SO INCLINED. TO
THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT IS VERY
GOOD TO GIVE EVEN MORE MONEY
TOWARDS THESE PROGRAMS. REAL
LIFE. PUSHING FOR THIS, SO YOU
GIVE US DATA NOT ONLY PROVED
THAT IT WORKED, BUT
EXPONENTIALLY HOW IT IS HELPING
CALIFORNIA AS A WHOLE AND THE
BIG PICTURE. THANK YOU. SURE
YES, THANK YOU. UM, YOU KNOW,
FIRST OF ALL, UM, THANK YOU.
CHAIR FOR THE OTHER BUDGET
SUBCOMMITTEE FOR LEADING THIS
ISSUE WITH US TODAY, AND WE'RE
CO CHAIRING, BUT REALLY, IT WAS
YOUR PUSH TO HAVE THIS TOPIC AND
YOU'RE BLENDING OF ISSUES HERE
WITH EDUCATION AND PUBLIC SAFETY
AND CRIMINAL JUSTICE. I GUESS
THE BIG PICTURE IS THAT YOU
KNOW, YEARS AGO AND ALREADY YOU
TALKED ABOUT WE CHANGE THE NAME
OF CORRECTIONS DEPARTMENT, TOO.
AND PUT IN THERE AND ARE TOO
REHABILITATION. BUT NOT ENOUGH
FOR THE YARDS IN THERE. THERE'S
ALWAYS BEEN AN R, BUT IT WAS
SMALLER CAPITAL ARE JUST LIKE
CAPITAL C. SO THAT'S THE
ULTIMATE GOAL IS NOT JUST
REDUCING THE POPULATION AND
IMPROVING PUBLIC SAFETY. BUT HOW
DO WE KEEP PEOPLE FROM? YOU
KNOW, GOING IN THE IN THE YOU
KNOW, CIRCLING BACK THROUGH THE
THROUGH THE SYSTEM, SO WE'RE
GONNA GET TO THAT AND I'M REALLY
INTERESTED TO IN THE HIGHER
EDUCATION ONES LATER IN THE
PANEL. INCLUDING THE RISING
SCHOLARS. IF YOU PUT MONEY IN
THE BUDGET FOR AND WE HAVE
LEGISLATION SIGN BUT I'M
THINKING ABOUT YOU MENTIONED
THAT THAT THERE'S FEAR PEOPLE IN
OUR JUVENILE HOUSE. AND YEAH,
THE ONE WE HAVE A JUVENILE HALL
HERE IN YOLO COUNTY. AND I THINK
IF THERE'S LIKE LAST TIME I
TALKED TO THEIR FOLKS OVER THERE
IS LIKE LESS THAN FIVE PEOPLE
THERE. AND HERE IN SACRAMENTO
COUNTY, THE SAME THING ANOTHER
NUMBER, BUT ANYTHING LOWER, SO
THE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE SIGHTED
ARRESTED THERE, THERE'S THERE.
MAYBE THEY'RE SERVING FURTHER
THERE. PUNISHMENT OR THEY'RE
BASICALLY TERM IS A LITTLE BIT
DIFFERENT NOW, WHETHER IT'S
PROBATION, OR ARE THEIR OUTCOMES
ANY ANY DIFFERENT? I GUESS MY
QUESTION BEFORE. MAYBE THEY'RE A
JUVENILE HALL WE SENT IN THROUGH
THE COUNTY OFFICE OF EDUCATION
OR OTHER PROGRAMS, AND THEY WERE
ABLE TO GET SOME TYPE OF UM,
EDUCATION IS SO IT IS IT DO WE
KNOW IS THAT MAKING HIS NAME IS
ANY IMPROVEMENTS? ON A STATEWIDE
LEVEL. UH THAT DATA TO I HAVEN'T
SEEN THAT DATA IT COULD VARY.
COUNTIES CAN COLLECT THAT
INDIVIDUAL DATA ON WHAT THOSE
OUTCOMES HAVE BEEN. BUT ONE OF
THE REASONS THAT THERE'S FEWER
PEOPLE IN THESE FACILITIES IS
JUST JUVENILE ARRESTS ARE
DECLINING, AND THEY'VE BEEN
DECLINING SIGNIFICANTLY FOR OVER
A DECADE, AND THAT'S PART OF THE
EXPLANATION AND IT'S UNCLEAR
WHETHER BETWEEN PRIOR TO THE
REALIGNMENT LEGISLATION PASSING
WHETHER. THAT TREND HAS
CONTINUED OR COVID 19 HAS HAD AN
IMPACT ON JUVENILE ARRESTS IS
KIND OF THE STORY HAPPENING
THERE WITH WHY WE'RE SEEING
FEWER. YOU GET THAT SOME OF THE
COUNTIES RIGHT NOW. SO WHAT
HAPPENED TO ALL OF THE EDUCATORS
THAT USED TO GO TO THE JUVENILE
HALLS? WHERE? WHERE WHAT ARE
THEY DOING NOW? WHERE ARE THOSE
PROGRAMS? NO ONE'S THERE ANYMORE
. YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT
EFFORT? MY COLLEAGUE WOULD BE
ABLE TO ANSWER THAT CHAIR.
MICHAEL ALFEREZ ELIO
UNDERSTANDING IS THAT A LOT OF
COUNTING OFFICERS WILL RETAIN
STAFF EVEN IF THEY HAVE THE
CLEANING ENROLLMENTS, GIVEN THAT
THEY HAVE TO RUN THE PROGRAM FOR
THE THROUGHOUT THE SCHOOL YEAR.
UM REGARDLESS OF HOW MANY YOUTH
ARE THERE, BECAUSE YOU CAN SHOW
UP AT ANY TIME, AND THEY NEED TO
HAVE A FUNCTIONAL PROGRAM. YEAH
SO I DON'T KNOW IF COUNTY
OFFICES YOU MIGHT HEAR IN LATER
PANELS FROM THE PANELISTS. WHAT
THEY MIGHT BE DOING IN THEIR
COUNTY BURNERS STANDING IS
THERE'S NOT A LOT OF DOWNSIZING
THAT'S BEEN HAPPENING AS A
RESULT OF THE LOWER ATTENDANCE.
SO IF THERE'S ZERO POPULATION IN
THE COUNTY, AND THEY USED TO
HAVE AN EDUCATION COMPONENT
GOING TO THAT JUVENILE HALL.
IT'S JUST THAT PROGRAM THAT
EXIST ANYMORE. ARE THEY SERVING
THE YOUTH IN DIFFERENT CAPACITY?
UM I'M I'M NOT. I THINK THAT ON
SOME LEVEL THEY WOULD HAVE TO
HAVE SOME TYPE OF STAFF ON HAND
IN CASE OF THE YOUTH GET
ARRESTED AND DETAINED, BUT I
THINK THERE HAS BEEN A BIGGER
SHIFT TOWARDS MORE COMMUNITY
SUPERVISION AND HAVING MORE
OTHER KIND OF COUNTY OFFICE RUN
SCHOOLS LIKE COMMUNITY SCHOOLS
THAT YOU THOUGHT TORONTO BASIN
OR ARE REFERRED FROM PROBATION
OR ARE MANDATORILY EXPOSED FROM
THEIR SCHOOL DISTRICT WILL BE
ABLE TO ATTEND. UM, SCHOOL
DISTRICTS COULD ALSO SEND YOUTH
THAT HAVE ARE FOUND WITH 88
PROBLEMS OR LIKE ATTENDANCE
PROBLEMS OR BEHAVIORAL PROBLEMS.
BUT IF THEY'RE NOT SENT ON A
MANDATORY LEE EXPELLED THE FENCE
AND THEY WOULD REIMBURSE THE
COUNTY OFFICE FOR THE FUNDING
THAT THEY GET FROM FIRST
EDUCATING, THE STUDENTS NOTED.
WE HAVE A FEW OTHER ACCOUNTING
OFFICER EDUCATION COMING A BIT
LATER. WE COULD MAYBE ASK THEM
SOME HYPOTHETICALS. YEAH, THANK
YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR
THIS PANEL. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
WE'LL MOVE ON NOW TO THE RELATED
ISSUE NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS K. 12
EDUCATION AS A REMINDER OF THE
PANELISTS ARE LISTED IN SPEAKING
ORDER, AND EACH PANELIST IS
ASKED TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES
PRIOR TO SPEAKING.
AND JUST AS AN OVERVIEW WITH US
TODAY WE HAVE AH, MEMBERS OF THE
COUNTY OFFICE OF EDUCATION FROM
VENTURA COUNTY. UH, FOLKS FROM
THE ALAMEDA COUNTY OFFICE OF
EDUCATION AS WELL AS, UH, LAW
SCHOOL PROFESSOR FROM THE YOUTH
JUSTICE EDUCATION CLINIC. AND WE
ALSO HAVE PROBATION REPRESENTED.
SO WITH THAT WE WILL BEGIN WITH
MONIKA VON CHIEF OF SCHOOLS,
ALAMEDA COUNTY OFFICE OF
EDUCATION. GOOD AFTERNOON. CHAIR
AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO
SPEAK WITH YOU TODAY. MY NAME IS
MONICA VAUGHN AND I'M THE CHIEF
OF SCHOOLS FOR ALAMEDA COUNTY
OFFICE OF EDUCATION. TODAY I
WILL DISCUSS COUNTY OFFICE OF
EDUCATION COURTS SCHOOLS, THE
STUDENTS WE SERVE AND THE
IMPACTS OF D J J REALIGNMENT.
COUNTY OFFICES OF EDUCATION, OR
C O E S OPERATE OVER 40 COURT
SCHOOLS IN JUVENILE DETENTION
FACILITIES ACROSS THE STATE.
COURTS SCHOOLS PROVIDE
INSTRUCTION IN ALL ACADEMIC
CONTENT AREAS THROUGH GRADE 12,
INCLUDING CAREER TECHNICAL
EDUCATION. IN ALAMEDA COUNTY 98%
OF OUR COURTS, SCHOOL STUDENTS
WERE ENROLLED IN AT LEAST 18 A G
COURSE LAST YEAR. WE ALSO
PROVIDE ALL SERVICES TO STUDENTS
WHO QUALIFY FOR SPECIAL
EDUCATION. MANY OF OUR STUDENTS
RETURNED TO COMPREHENSIVE HIGH
SCHOOLS WITHIN A SHORT PERIOD OF
TIME, FOR EXAMPLE, DURING THE
LAST SCHOOL YEAR, AND ALAMEDA
COUNTY WE SERVED 322 STUDENTS.
BUT ONLY 23 WERE ENROLLED FOR A
WHOLE SEMESTER. AND ON AVERAGE
STUDENTS WERE ENROLLED JUST 20
DAYS. AS COUNTY OFFICE EDUCATORS
. WE FEEL IT IS IMPERATIVE TO
USE STUDENTS TIME IN OUR COURTS
SCHOOLS TO SUPPORT NURTURE AND
PREPARE OUR STUDENTS AS MUCH AS
POSSIBLE FOR WHAT COMES NEXT IN
THEIR LIVES. OUR STUDENTS HAVE
BEEN IMPACTED BY TRAUMA.
NEGATIVE EDUCATIONAL
EXPERIENCES. AND
DISPROPORTIONATE DISCIPLINARY
PROCEDURES. WE SERVE STUDENTS
WHO HAVE FACED SIGNIFICANT
BARRIERS TO ACHIEVEMENT AND
OPPORTUNITY. OUR SCHOOLS SERVE A
DISPROPORTIONATE NUMBER OF
STUDENTS OF COLOR. AND STUDENTS
WHO QUALIFY FOR SPECIAL
EDUCATION. COURTS SCHOOLS
REQUIRE INTENSIVE STAFFING
LEVELS TO MAINTAIN A SAFE AND
EDUCATIONALLY PRODUCTIVE STUDENT
ENVIRONMENT. IT IS NOT UNUSUAL
FOR JUVENILE DETENTION
FACILITIES TO SEPARATE STUDENTS
BASED ON VARIOUS CRITERIA. FOR
EXAMPLE, GENDER AGE OR SAFETY
FACTORS. COURT SCHOOL WITH 20
STUDENTS MIGHT NEED THREE OR
FOUR CLASSROOMS. THE NUMBER OF
STUDENTS IN CLASSROOMS CAN
CHANGE DAILY WITH LITTLE TIME
FOR PREPARATION. I'D LIKE TO
GIVE YOU A SNAPSHOT OF ALAMEDA
COUNTY'S COURT SCHOOLS. ON ANY
GIVEN DAY 45 TO 55 HIGH SCHOOL
STUDENTS AND 15 TO 20 GRADUATES
ARE IN THE FACILITIES. ABOUT
HALF OF OUR HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS
HAVE I E. P S OUR INCOMING
STUDENTS ON AVERAGE OR AGE 16 17
AND HAVE SIX TO SEVENTH GRADE
READING LEVELS AND 56TH GRADE
MATH LEVELS. OUR ONE YEAR
GRADUATION RATE IN 2021 WAS
88.9% AND OUR ONE YEAR
GRADUATION RATE FOR 21 22 WAS
55.6. WE CURRENTLY OPERATES
SEVEN MULTI GRADE CLASSROOMS,
PLUS PE, A JUVENILE HALL AND AN
ADDITIONAL CLASSROOM AT THE
CAMP. WE HAVE NINE FULL TIME
TEACHERS IN PLACE, REGARDLESS OF
STUDENT NUMBERS TO ENSURE
CLASSROOM AVAILABILITY. SHOULD
WE NEED IT ON SHORT NOTICE? AND
UNLIKE MOST SCHOOLS ARE COURT
SCHOOLS RUN YEAR ROUND. WE ALSO
HAVE OTHER SUPPORT STAFF ON SITE
, INCLUDING A ROBUST SPECIAL
EDUCATION TEAM, INCLUDING
PSYCHOLOGISTS, RESOURCE TEACHER
AND SPEECH AND LANGUAGE
PATHOLOGIST. A TEACHER ON
SPECIAL ASSIGNMENT FOR ENGLISH
LEARNERS. AND PARA EDUCATORS. IF
THIS SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF STUFF
FOR A SMALL AMOUNT OF STUDENTS,
IT IS OUR COURT SCHOOL STUDENTS
COME TO US WITH DEEP EDUCATIONAL
NEEDS. WHICH IS WHY NEARLY ALL
COUNTY OFFICES SUPPLEMENT THEIR
ALTERNATIVE EDUCATION FUNDING
WITH A MIX OF GENERAL FUND
CONTRIBUTIONS AND ONE TIME
FUNDS. IN ALAMEDA COUNTY.
SUPPLEMENTAL GENERAL FUNDS COVER
45% OF OUR TOTAL COURT AND
COMMUNITY SCHOOL COSTS. THE
EDUCATION CODE PROVIDES NEITHER
SUFFICIENT NOR STABLE FUNDING TO
SERVE STUDENTS IN JUVENILE COURT
SCHOOLS. COUNTY OFFICES OF
EDUCATION OR ALSO RESPONDING TO
THE CHANGES FROM D. J J
REALIGNMENT. INCLUDING STUDENTS
SERVING STUDENTS WHO STAY LONGER
IN OUR COURTS, SCHOOLS. AND
PARTNERING WITH PROBATION AND
OUR LOCAL COMMUNITY COLLEGES TO
OFFER POSTSECONDARY EDUCATION
OPPORTUNITIES. IN ALAMEDA COUNTY
. WE OFFER COLLEGE COURSES BOTH
IN PERSON AND ONLINE. TWO
GRADUATES AND, UM, WE'VE ALSO
OFFER DUAL ENROLLMENT TO SOME OF
OUR HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS. BUT
THAT IS NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF
EVERY COUNTY. THERE'S A GREAT
DEAL OF POSTSECONDARY VARIATION
BETWEEN COUNTIES. THE ROLE OF C
O S IS IN PROVIDING
POSTSECONDARY EDUCATION SUPPORT
ALSO VARIES BY COUNTY. AS OUR
EXPERTISE IS REALLY CAME THROUGH
12 EDUCATION. ONE TIME FUNDS FOR
POST SECONDARY WILL BE HELPFUL,
BUT THE AVAILABILITY OF ONGOING
RESOURCES IS UNKNOWN TO THE
FIELD. IN CONCLUSION, WHETHER
IT'S FOR HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS OR
POST SECONDARY HAVING STRONG
PARTNERSHIPS WITH PROBATION.
BEHAVIORAL HEALTH COMMUNITY
COLLEGES ARE SCHOOL DISTRICTS
AND COMMUNITY BASED
ORGANIZATIONS ARE VITAL TO
PROVIDING THE PROGRAMS AND
SERVICES ARE COURT SCHOOL
STUDENTS REQUIRE. AND WE'RE VERY
GRATEFUL TO THE CLOSE
PARTNERSHIPS WE HAVE IN ALAMEDA.
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH YOU
TODAY. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS AT THE APPROPRIATE
TIME. THANK YOU, AND WE'LL MOVE
ON NOW TO THE NEXT SPEAKER. GOOD
AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. IT IS
AN HONOR TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY
TO ADDRESS ALL OF YOU TODAY. MY
NAME IS DR CESAR MORALES,
VENTURA COUNTY SUPERINTENDENT OF
SCHOOLS. TODAY I WILL BE SHARING
INFORMATION REGARDING WHAT IT
TAKES TO SUPPORT THE VALUABLE K
12 AND POST SECONDARY STUDENTS
IN OUR JUVENILE COURT SCHOOLS.
TO DO THAT. I WANT TO START BY
SHARING A TYPICAL DAY IN THE
LIFE OF A STUDENT AT VENTURA
COUNTY'S JUVENILE FACILITY. EACH
MORNING AFTER BREAKFAST, THE
STUDENTS WALK INTO THEIR
CLASSROOMS, WHICH ARE IN THEIR
CELLBLOCK COMMON AREA. THEY'RE
WELCOMED BY A CREDENTIAL TEACHER
PARAPROFESSIONAL AND THE
PROBATION OFFICER WHO REMAINS IN
THE CLASSROOM THROUGHOUT
INSTRUCTION. STUDENTS COMPLETE
THEIR INSTRUCTION AND THEIR
COURSEWORK WITH STAFF PROVIDING
GUIDANCE ON THEIR INDIVIDUALIZED
PATHS AND WITH ONLINE
OPPORTUNITIES TO PARTICIPATE IN
COMMUNITY COLLEGE CLASSES.
STUDENTS HAVE ACCESS TO MENTAL
HEALTH CLINICIANS, ESPECIALLY
THOSE WITH AN INDIVIDUALIZED
EDUCATION PLAN, AND I E P NEW
STUDENTS MEET WITH THE
TRANSITION SPECIALISTS WHO
COMMUNICATE WITH THE SCHOOL
DISTRICT FAMILY AND PROBATION
STAFF. AFTER SCHOOL. STUDENTS
RECEIVE INDIVIDUALIZED ACADEMIC
SUPPORT OR PARTICIPATE IN
EXTRACURRICULAR PROGRAMS THROUGH
A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN PROBATION
AND THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB. IT
TAKES A TEAM TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN
EVERY DAY. WE HAVE FOUR GENERAL
EDUCATION TEACHERS TO SPECIAL
EDUCATION TEACHERS, THREE PER
PROFESSIONALS AND ONE SITE
SCHOOL ADMINISTRATOR, A
COUNSELOR, A TRANSITION
SPECIALISTS AND AN OFFICE
MANAGER. ALL ARRIVED TO SUPPORT
THE 52 YOUTH, 19 OF WHICH ARE
SPECIAL EDUCATION STUDENTS WITH
ACUTE NEEDS. OUR GOAL IS FOR
EVERY STUDENT TO COMPLETE THEIR
HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA AND BE ON A
PATHWAY FOR CONTINUED EDUCATION
OR SPECIALIZED TRAINING. I'M
PROUD THAT WE PROVIDE ROBUST
SERVICES TO OUR STUDENTS, AND I
WANT TO PIVOT TO THE FISCAL
IMPACT OF DOING THAT. BUT WE ARE
LIKE A HOSPITAL EMERGENCY ROOM
RIGHT NOW. WE STAFF EDUCATORS TO
THE ANTICIPATED CAPACITY WE HAVE
TO SERVE. REGARDLESS OF HOW MANY
STUDENTS ARE REFERRED TO US IN
ANY GIVEN DAY OR WEEK. THE COST
TO RUN OR QUALITY EDUCATION
PROGRAM IS ROUGHLY TWO MILLION.
JUST 900,000 CAME FROM L C F F
AND THE REMAINING 1.1 MILLION
WAS FROM OUR LOCAL COUNTY OFFICE
OF THAT CONTRIBUTION. THE
PROBATION DEPARTMENT ALLOCATES
ADDITIONAL STAFFING TO ENSURE A
SAFE ENVIRONMENT DURING THE
SCHOOL DAY AND CONSISTENTLY
APPLIES FOR ONE TIME GRANT
PROGRAMS TO COMPLEMENT OUR BASED
SERVICES. AND TO BRING IT BACK
TO THE STUDENTS. LATINOS ARE
ABOUT 50% OF THE POPULATION IN
VENTURA COUNTY BETTER THAN OUR
JUVENILE COURT FACILITY.
HISPANIC STUDENTS ARE 77% OF THE
POPULATION. AMERICAN INDIANS, 3%
AFRICAN AMERICANS, 3% AND WHITE
STUDENTS, 17. OUR OPPORTUNITY AT
THE COUNTY OFFICES TO CREATE A
HIGH QUALITY EDUCATION AND
READABILITY, UH, REHABILITATION
REHABILITATION PROGRAMS FOR
THESE STUDENTS. WE ALSO NEED TO
PROMOTE RESTORATIVE JUSTICE AND
DIVERSION PRACTICES THROUGHOUT
OUR COMMUNITY. WE HAVE AN
OPPORTUNITY TO ENSURE OUR
STUDENTS BECOME INDEPENDENT AND
POSITIVE CONTRIBUTORS IN OUR
SOCIETY. EARLIER I MENTIONED THE
REALIGNMENT OF DEPARTMENT OF
JUVENILE JUSTICE. JUVENILE
DETENTION CENTERS ARE NOW
HOUSING, YOUNG ADULTS AND HIGH
SCHOOL GRADUATES FOR LONGER
DURATIONS OF TIME. LET ME START
BY SHARING WHAT'S GOING WELL
WITH POST SECONDARY SERVICES. IN
VENTURA COUNTY, AS ILLUSTRATED
IN THE HANDOUT WE SHARED THE
VENTURA COUNTY PROBATION COUNTY
OFFICE OF ED AND VENTURA COUNTY
COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT
PARTNER TOGETHER TO OFFER
POSTSECONDARY EXPERIENCES SUCH
AS CAREER EXPLORATION, SETI
PROGRAMS, ACADEMIC COUNSELING
COLLEGE COURSES. ACCESS TO TECH
EQUIPMENT AND CONNECTIVITY AND V
C O E TRUSTEE SCHOLARSHIPS TO
ASSIST WITH SUPPLIES OR TUITION
AFTER THEIR GRADUATION AND
RELEASE. WITH ALL THAT SAID, WE
ARE PRESENTLY IN SURVIVAL MODE
AS PROBATION OFFICE
PROFESSIONALS AND EDUCATORS IN
THE COUNTY OFFICE OF ED AND
COMMUNITY COLLEGE SYSTEM
LEVERAGE EACH OTHER STAFF AND
RESOURCES TO BEST MEET THE NEEDS
OF OUR YOUTH AND NOW ADULTS
THROUGH AGED 25. THIS WORK IS
LARGELY DEPENDENT ON A STRONG
PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN C O E,
PROBATION DEPARTMENT AND LOCAL
INSTITUTIONS OF HIGHER
EDUCATION. AS STATED EARLIER,
THE C O E CONTRIBUTES OVER 50%
OF THE TOTAL COST OF EDUCATION
PROGRAM FOR THE K 12 STUDENTS
THROUGH ONE TIME FUNDS AND GRANT
PROGRAMS. ADDITIONALLY WE ARE
EXPLORING OTHER GRANT OPTIONS
VIA THE PROBATION DEPARTMENT AND
COMMUNITY COLLEGE SYSTEM TO
PROVIDE SERVICES FOR HIGH SCHOOL
GRADUATES. THE CURRENT MODE OF
OPERATION IS NOT SUSTAINABLE.
WHILE WE APPRECIATE THE EXISTING
GRANTS OFFERED TO SUPPORT THIS
WORK, COMPETITIVE, COMPETITIVE
GRANT PROCESSES ARE NOT THE
ANSWER AS THEY ARE NOT
SUSTAINABLE. SIMILARLY AGENCY
DECISIONS TO REALLOCATE
RESOURCES TO FUND THIS PROGRAM
IS NOT A VIABLE LONG TERM
SOLUTION BECAUSE IT REQUIRES
REDUCTIONS IN OTHER PROGRAMS. WE
NEED ONGOING FUNDING TO SUPPORT
HIGH QUALITY EDUCATION FOR OUR
JUSTICE INVOLVED YOUTH. THAT
DOES NOT REQUIRE ADDITIONAL
GRANT APPLICATION AND THEN
ADMINISTRATIVE REPORTING BURDEN.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, AND I
APPRECIATE YOUR ATTENTION TO THE
WAYS WE CAN SUPPORT THE STUDENTS
AND OUR JUVENILE COURT FACILITY
PROGRAMS. THANK YOU. WE'LL MOVE
ON TO MR FORD. YES? GOOD
AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. THANK
YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK
TODAY ABOUT HOW THE ALAMEDA
COUNTY PROBATION DEPARTMENT
PARTNERS WITH THE COUNTY OFFICE
OF EDUCATION TO ENSURE YOU HAVE
ACCESS TO QUALITY EDUCATIONAL
OPPORTUNITIES. MY NAME IS BRIAN
FORD. I'M THE ASSISTANT CHIEF
FOR THE ALAMEDA COUNTY PROBATION
DEPARTMENT. THE INTERSECTION OF
SAFETY AND EDUCATION IS A
PERSONAL ONE FOR ME, AND THAT
I'M A PRODUCT OF BOTH THE
COMPTON UNIFIED AND LOS ANGELES
UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICTS. THE
CHALLENGES THAT I FACED IN
SCHOOL, SHAPE MY PERSPECTIVE AND
HELP ME RECOGNIZE HOW CRITICAL
ACCESS TO QUALITY EDUCATION IN
ANY SETTING FOR THAT MATTER IS A
FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT THAT MUST BE
HONORED. WE APPROACHED THIS WORK
FROM THAT LENS AND OUR
PARTNERSHIPS AND COLLABORATIONS
ARE ESSENTIAL TO DELIVERING ON
THAT NOTION. AND ALAMEDA COUNTY
PROBATION OPERATES TO JUVENILE
FACILITIES, A JUVENILE HALL AND
A RESIDENTIAL CAMP. OUR JUVENILE
HALL HAS A RATED CAPACITY TO
SERVE 358 YOUTH CAMP CAN SERVE
UP TO 60. LIKE MANY OTHER
JURISDICTIONS THROUGHOUT THE
STATE ARE JUVENILE INTAKES HAVE
ALSO CONTINUED TO TREND DOWNWARD
IN 2022. WE SERVED 445 UNIQUE
INDIVIDUALS, WHICH IS ROUGHLY
60% DOWN FROM 2019. OUR AVERAGE
DAILY POPULATION OF 75, OF WHICH
A THIRD OF THAT IS SB 8 23
YOUTH, INCLUDING THOSE WHO HAVE
RETURNED FROM D. J. J. MALES
MAKE UP ABOUT 90% OF OUR
POPULATION, WHILE 10% ARE
FEMALES AND BETWEEN BOTH 98% OUR
YOUTH OF COLOR. MORE THAN HALF
FOR 16 AND 17 YEAR OLDS, BUT
THAT STATISTIC IS BEGINNING TO
TREND HIGHER. GIVEN THE NUMBER
OF REALIGNED YOUTH WE NOW HAVE
IN OUR FACILITIES. WE'VE BEEN
FORTUNATE IN THAT WE'VE RECEIVED
A SLOW MATRICULATION OF YOUTH
FROM D. J. J SINCE JULY OF 2020
21. THERE ARE ONLY THREE YOUTH
REMAINING AT D. J. J. OF WHICH
ONLY TWO ARE ANTICIPATED TO
RETURN, WITH THE THIRD, POSSIBLY
BEING PAROLED PRIOR TO D. J. J
CLOSING. SO AS CHIEF VAN STATED
ON ANY GIVEN DAY, APPROXIMATELY
25% OF OUR POPULATION ARE HIGH
SCHOOL GRADUATES. AND OF THE
REMAINING 75. THEY HAVE I E. P S
WHAT THIS MEANS DAY IN AND DAY
OUT IS HIGH LEVELS OF
COLLABORATION BETWEEN PROBATION
, COUNTY OFFICE OF EDUCATION,
BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AND WHEN
NECESSARY, EVEN STAFF FROM
CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL. A
FOUNDATIONAL COMPONENT OF OUR
COLLABORATION RESTS IN OUR
INCENTIVE BASED BEHAVIOR
MANAGEMENT PROGRAM. YOU KNOW, WE
RECOGNIZED THE EFFECTIVENESS
THAT REWARDS AND INCENTIVES HAVE
ON YOUNG PEOPLE, AND THE SYSTEM
IS INCORPORATED INTO EVERY
ASPECT OF THE YOUNG PERSON'S
EXPERIENCE. IN 2019. ALL OF OUR
PARTNERS PARTICIPATED IN A
FACILITY WIDE TRAINING AND
IMPLEMENTATION OF OUR BEHAVIOR
MANAGEMENT PROGRAM, AND THIS WAS
ESSENTIAL BECAUSE IT PROVIDED A
SYSTEMATIC WAY FOR TEACHERS AND
PROBATION STAFF TO WORK TOGETHER
UNDER ONE MODEL THAT WAS BOTH
CONSISTENT AND PREDICTABLE AND
HOW WE MANAGED AND RESPOND TO
YOUTH BEHAVIOR. ANOTHER LAYER
THAT DEEPENS OUR COLLABORATION
IS OUR CARE COORDINATION
MEETINGS. WE WORK TOGETHER WITH
BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AND CHILDREN'S
HOSPITAL TO FACILITATE CASE
CONFERENCES FOR INDIVIDUAL YOUTH
TO IDENTIFY STRATEGIES TO HELP
YOUNG PEOPLE BE SUCCESSFUL IN
THE LIVING UNITS AND IN THE
CLASSROOMS. MANY OF OUR YOUNG
PEOPLE PRESENT COMPLEX BEHAVIOR
, HEALTH ISSUES AND HAVE ACUTE
MENTAL HEALTH NEEDS, WHICH HAS
CREATED A CIRCUMSTANCE THAT HAS
MOTIVATED US TO COLLABORATE IN
NONTRADITIONAL WAYS. ALTHOUGH I
RECOGNIZE THAT THE PANEL THAT
WILL FOLLOW US, WE'LL DISCUSS
POST HIGH SCHOOL EDUCATION. I
WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T
ACKNOWLEDGE THE EFFORT THAT IS
ALSO GOING GONE INTO ENSURING
THAT ARE HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES
HAVE ACCESS TO IN PERSON COLLEGE
INSTRUCTION. WITH GUIDANCE FROM
A CEO'S LEADERSHIP. PROBATION
UTILIZED A PORTION OF OUR SB 8
23 ALLOCATION TO CONTRACT WITH
LANEY COMMUNITY COLLEGE TO
PROVIDE ACCESS TO A VARIETY OF
COURSES, INCLUDING BUSINESS
STATISTICS, ENGLISH ECONOMICS
AND MORE. WE HAVE ONE YOUNG MAN
WHO WILL BE GRADUATING WITH HIS
A NEXT MONTH AND WILL BE
PURSUING HIS BACHELOR'S AT CAL
STATE EAST BAY. HOWEVER IT'S
TRUE IN ANY SYSTEM, THERE'S
ALWAYS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR GROWTH
, CONSIDERING THE LEVEL OF ACUTE
MENTAL HEALTH ILLNESS, WE SEE AN
INCREASED NEED FOR HIGHER LEVELS
OF TRAINING ACROSS THE SYSTEM
FOR BOTH PROBATION AND A C O A C
O E STAFF. YOU KNOW, WE LEARNED
FROM THE IMPLEMENTATION OF HER
BEHAVIOR MANAGEMENT PROGRAM THAT
WHEN STAFF ARE TRAINED TOGETHER,
IT PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR
ALL OF US TO BE POINTED IN THE
SAME DIRECTION HERE IN THE SAME
LANGUAGE AND UTILIZING THE SAME
APPROACHES. AND FINALLY I WANT
TO RECOGNIZE OUR NEED FOR CAREER
TECHNICAL EDUCATION AND
VOCATIONAL TRAINING OFFERS
OFFERINGS, WHICH WOULD HAVE TO
BE DONE. WHILE BALANCING THE
CONFIGURATION OF OUR EXISTING
FACILITIES. YOU KNOW, I STATED
EARLIER. YOU KNOW, COLLEGE IS
THE PATH FOR SOME, BUT WE MUST
ALSO CREATE PATHWAYS FOR THOSE
THAT HAVE OTHER INTERESTS.
INCREASED INVESTMENTS IN THESE
AREAS WILL MAKE A SIGNIFICANT
DIFFERENCE IN THE HEARTS AND
MINDS OF OUR YOUNG PEOPLE AS
WELL AS OUR OUTCOMES. AND IN
CLOSING, I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU
FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK
TODAY BEING WOULD BE HAPPY TO
TAKE ANY QUESTIONS WHEN
APPROPRIATE. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO MR DOLLAR. GOOD
AFTERNOON. THAT CHAIR MEMBERS OF
THE COMMITTEE. MY NAME IS TIM
DOLLAR. I'M THE JUVENILE
SERVICES BUREAU CHIEF DEPUTY FOR
VENTURA COUNTY PROBATION AGENCY
, AND I HAVE THE PLEASURE OF
OVERSEEING OUR JUVENILE JUSTICE
COMPLEX AND VENTURA COUNTY. UM I
WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO YOU TODAY
ABOUT THE EDUCATIONAL SERVICES
PROVIDED BY VENTURA COUNTY
OFFICE OF EDUCATION IN
COLLABORATION WITH VENTURA
COUNTY PROBATION AGENCY. THE
YOUTH AND YOUNG ADULTS AND OUR
JUVENILE FACILITIES ARE THE
HIGHEST NEED YOUTH IN OUR
COUNTY. THEY OFTEN COME TO US
WITH COMPLEX ISSUES RANGING FROM
CHILDHOOD TRAUMA. CHEMICAL
DEPENDENCY ON DRUGS. LEARNING
DISABILITIES. ACUTE MENTAL
HEALTH NEEDS. HI CRIMINAL GENIC
RISK FACTORS AND MORE. THESE
COMPLEXITIES REQUIRE A
MULTIDISCIPLINARY TEAM OF
MEDICAL, BEHAVIORAL HEALTH,
HUMAN SERVICES SCHOOLS,
PROBATION STAFF TO DEVELOP AND
DELIVER INDIVIDUALIZED CASE
PLANS TO SAFELY CARE FOR AND
EFFECTIVELY SERVE THIS
POPULATION FROM INTAKE TO
RELEASE. EDUCATION IS A CRITICAL
COMPONENT OF THIS
MULTIDISCIPLINARY TEAM. IT IS
PART OF THE TRANSFORMATION
REQUIRED FOR A YOUTH OR YOUNG
ADULT IN CUSTODY TO THRIVE UPON
RELEASE. VENTURA COUNTY HAS ONE
JUVENILE JUSTICE COMPLEX THAT
HOUSES DETENTION. COMMITMENT.
AND SECURE YOUTH. UH TREATMENT
FACILITY YOUTH OFTEN CALLED S Y
T F YOUTH. AS OF APRIL 14TH OF
THIS MONTH. 75 YOUTH ARE BEING
SERVED IN OUR FACILITY WITH 92%
OF THEM BEING MALE. 22 OUR YOUTH
PENDING COURT PROCEEDINGS. 41
ARE SERVING A COMMITMENT. AND 12
WERE COMMITTED TO R S Y T F
PROGRAM. 36% OF THE POPULATION
IN THE FACILITY WHERE PREVIOUSLY
HOUSED AT THE COMMUNITY AT THE
COUNTY JAIL, OR D. J. J PRIOR TO
JUVENILE JUSTICE REALIGNMENT.
AND WE HAVE TWO YOUNG ADULTS, UH
, IN D. J J THAT MAY BE
TRANSFERRED TO OUR FACILITY
PRIOR TO JULY 1ST. OUT OF THE 75
YOUTH AND YOUNG ADULTS IN THE
FACILITY. THERE ARE 51 YOUTH
ATTENDING PROVIDENCE HIGH
SCHOOL, WHICH IS ON CAMPUS AND
OPERATED BY B. C. O E. THREE OF
THE 51 YOUTH ARE SERVING S Y T S
Y T F COMMITMENT. THE REMAINING
24 YOUTH ARE HIGH SCHOOL
GRADUATES. OUT OF THE 24
GRADUATES. THERE ARE 15 YOUNG
ADULTS ATTENDING ONLINE COLLEGE
COURSES. 10 OF THOSE 15 YOUNG
ADULTS ARE IN R S Y T F PROGRAM.
THE CHALLENGE WE SOMETIMES FACE
WITH PROVIDING HIGH SCHOOL
SERVICES IS AN INHERENT NEED TO
POPULATE SOME CLASSROOMS WITH
FEWER STUDENTS DUE TO DIFFERENT
DUE TO DIFFERENT LEVELS OF
CLASSIFICATION WITHIN THE
FACILITY TO KEEP THE YOUTH SAFE.
TYPICAL CLASSIFICATION
CONSIDERATIONS INCLUDE DETENTION
AND COMMITMENT, YOUTH. AGE.
GENDER LEVEL OF SOPHISTICATION,
PREVIOUS ACTS OF VIOLENCE. YOUTH
WHO CHOOSE TO SEPARATE
THEMSELVES FROM GENERAL
POPULATION AND MORE. THIS CAN
OFTEN, UH, PLACE OF STRAIN ON
THE NUMBER OF TEACHING STAFF
REQUIRED TO INSTRUCT AND MORE
CLASSROOMS AND MAY NOT BE IN
LINE WITH CURRENT PER STUDENT
FUNDING FORMULAS. AN APPROACH
FOR CONSIDERATION, MAYBE TO
REEVALUATE THE CURRENT FORMULA
FOR COURT SCHOOLS. ANOTHER
CHALLENGE HAS BEEN RESOURCES
REQUIRED FOR YOUTH TRANSITIONING
FROM HIGH SCHOOL TO COLLEGE AND
VOCATIONAL EDUCATION. MANY OF
THESE SERVICES HAVE BEEN
PROVIDED IN KIND BY B. C. O. E.
TO ENSURE A SEAMLESS TRANSITION
FOR THE YOUTH. WE HAVE MADE
COLLABORATIVE HEADWAY IN RECENT
MONTHS TO ADDRESS A PORTION OF
THESE GAPS THROUGH CONTRACTED
SERVICES WITH V C O E. TO
PROVIDE CAREER AND EXPLORATION
AND WORKPLACE ESSENTIAL SERVICES
IN OUR CAREER CENTER. UM. A FULL
TIME TEACHER TO PROVIDE ACADEMIC
SUPPORT FOR OUR YOUTH IN
COLLEGE. AND VOCATIONAL TRAINING
IN AGRICULTURE AND AUTOMOTIVE
CARE TO COMPLEMENT OUR EXISTING
CONSTRUCTION, SCREEN PRINTING
AND RADIO BROADCASTING PROGRAMS.
IN ADDITION, OXNARD COLLEGE
RECENTLY WAS AWARDED THE RISING
SCHOLARS GRANT PROVIDING AN
ACADEMIC COLLEGE COUNSELOR. LIKE
MOST MIKE MOST JUVENILE
CORRECTIONAL FACILITIES
THROUGHOUT THE STATE. WE ARE
WORKING TOWARDS TRANSFORMING OUR
FACILITY INTO A MORE CAMPUS LIKE
ENVIRONMENT FOR THE YOUTH. WE
SERVE. AS PART OF THE EFFORT,
VIDEO AND PROBATION ARE WORKING
TOGETHER TO BRAND OUR HIGH
SCHOOL CLASSROOMS WITH SCHOOL
COLORS. PAINTING A LARGE MASCOT
OUTSIDE OF THE GYMNASIUM LIKE
YOU'D SEE IT IN A COMMUNITY.
PROVIDING THE SCHOOL MASCOT T
SHIRTS FOR PE AND CREATING AN A
S B FOR YOU TO HAVE MORE OF A
VOICE FOR ON CAMPUS PROGRAMMING
AND ACTIVITIES AND POTENTIALLY
HAVE A DUAL ENROLLMENT COLLEGE
PATHWAY FOR HIGH SCHOOL YOUTH AS
WELL. THE FORMULA FOR THE
EDUCATIONAL SUCCESS IN VENTURA
COUNTY HAS BEEN A CULTURE OF
CONSISTENT AND HEALTHY
COMMUNICATION AMONGST THE TEAM.
A SHARED ADVOCACY FOR EACH YOUTH
TO BE SUCCESSFUL. AND A STRONG
PROFESSIONAL RELATIONSHIP
BETWEEN ORGANIZATIONS THAT IS
BONDED BY OUR COMMON GOAL OF
SAFELY PROVIDING HIGH QUALITY
EDUCATION TO THE YOUTH AND YOUNG
ADULTS THAT WE DO SERVE.
SURROUNDING EDUCATION SERVICES
WITH GOOD POLICIES AND
PROCEDURES. AN EFFECTIVE
COMMUNICATION PLAN AND QUALITY
CURRICULUM ARE IMPORTANT TO THE
SUCCESS OF OUR PROGRAM. BUT IT'S
REALLY THE PEOPLE THAT TRULY
MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THESE
PROGRAMS. EVERY INTERACTION WITH
THESE YOUTH AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO
CHANGE THEIR TRAJECTORY IN THEIR
FUTURE. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING
ME TO BE A PART OF THIS PROCESS
WITH YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE
WILL MOVE ON TO MEGAN STAYTON
TRILON. YES. THANK YOU. CHAIR
BONTA CHAIR MCCARTHY AND
MEMBERS. MY NAME IS MEGAN
STANTON. TRAHAN AND I'M AN
EDUCATION ATTORNEY REPRESENTING
YOUNG PEOPLE WHO ARE DETAINED IN
L. A COUNTY CURRENTLY DIRECT
ILLEGAL CLINIC AT LOYOLA LAW
SCHOOL. WHERE I ALSO TEACH
COURSES AND EDUCATION POLICY AND
EDUCATION LAW. THE MAJORITY OF
MY CLIENTS HAVE SPENT A
SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THEIR
EDUCATIONAL EXPERIENCE IN HIGH
SCHOOL DETAINED IN A DETENTION
FACILITY. THROUGHOUT MY BRIEF
PRESENTATION TODAY, I'LL BE
RELYING ON MY PERSONAL
EXPERIENCE WORKING WITH THESE
YOUNG PEOPLE, AS WELL AS A
RECENTLY RELEASED REPORT FROM
SOME COLLEAGUES AT THE VALUE OF
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY
LAW CENTER AND THE NATIONAL
CENTER FOR YOUTH LAW. ENTITLED
DECODING ALTERNATIVE EDUCATION.
THIS REPORT LOOKS AT, UM
ALTERNATIVE SCHOOLS, INCLUDING
JUVENILE COURT SCHOOLS. IN THE
FIVE BIGGEST C O ES IN
CALIFORNIA. SO THE CONCERNS THAT
I'M GOING TO RAISE TODAY AS AN
ADVOCATE FALL INTO A FEW
CATEGORIES, INCLUDING SCHOOL
STABILITY, TRANSITION PLANNING.
SCHOOL DISCIPLINE, CURRICULUM
AND STAFFING. SPECIAL EDUCATION
AND BUDGETING AND
ACCOUNTABILITY. THE MODEL OVER
MOVING STUDENTS FROM THE
COMMUNITY TO A JUVENILE
DETENTION FACILITY AND ALSO
CHANGING THEIR SCHOOL.
FUNDAMENTALLY CREATES
INSTABILITY FOR THESE YOUNG
PEOPLE AS CHAIR BONTA MENTIONED
IN THE BEGINNING OF THE SESSION.
CHANGING SCHOOLS, TEACHERS AND
PEERS, NOT TO MENTION THE TRAUMA
OF INCARCERATION ITSELF LEAVES
YOUNG PEOPLE WERE DETAINED AT A
DISADVANTAGE TO THEIR PEERS WHO
ARE NOT THE CALIFORNIA
DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION USE THE
SCHOOL STABILITY RATE AS ONE OF
THE THREE INDICATORS FOR SCHOOL
CLIMATE. CGRTS DATA PROVIDES
THAT IN 2019 TO 20 STUDENTS AND
ALTERNATIVE SCHOOLS AND
INCLUDING JUVENILE COURT SCHOOLS
IN CALIFORNIA HAD AN INSTABILITY
RATE OF 62% COMPARED WITH A
STATEWIDE AVERAGE OF 8. THE
TRANSITION PROCESS FOR STUDENTS
INTO AND LATER OUT OF JUVENILE
COURT. SCHOOLS CAN BE
CHALLENGING. THIS IS ESPECIALLY
TRUE FOR MY CLIENTS WERE SPECIAL
EDUCATION STUDENTS, WHO THEN
HAVE TO ADJUST TO NEW NUMEROUS
SERVICE PROVIDERS IN BOTH
LOCATIONS WITH EVERY MOVE. MY
CLIENTS ALSO STRUGGLE. TO ADJUST
TO JUVENILE COURT SCHOOL SETTING
THIS AND OTHER FACTORS MAY LEAD
TO HIGHER RATES OF SCHOOL
DISCIPLINE FOR THESE YOUNG
PEOPLE INSIDE THE JUVENILE
DETENTION FACILITIES. SOME
JUVENILE DETENTION FACILITIES
THROUGHOUT THE STATE. THE
SCHOOLS AND THOSE HAVE A HIGHER
RATE OF DISCIPLINE FOR STUDENTS
TO REPORT FROM THE CENTER FOR
CIVIL RIGHTS REMEDIES THAT U C L
A IN 2020 SHOWED THAT SOME CEOS
I'M GOING TO SAY LOS ANGELES,
FRESNO CURRAN, SAN BERNARDINO
AND SAN JOAQUIN. HAD THE HIGHEST
RATES OF DISCIPLINE IN THE
STATE, AS WELL AS DOCUMENTED
DISCIPLINE DISPARITIES FOR BLACK
AND NATIVE AMERICAN STUDENTS,
AMONG OTHERS. THE COUNTY. I
REGULARLY SEE MY CLIENTS
SUSPENDED AND MISSING AND KEY
INSTRUCTIONAL TIME. UM THIS IS
EXACERBATED BY A LACK OF
COMMUNICATION IN OUR COUNTY
BETWEEN THE LAKE OH, UM, AND THE
PROBATION DEPARTMENT. SO FOR
EXAMPLE, I HAVE A CLIENT WHO
MISSES SCHOOL, UM, FOR ONE
PERIOD SUSPENDED FOR ONE PERIOD
. HE RETURNS TO HIS COTTAGE, AND
HE STAYS THERE FOR THE REST OF
THE DAY. INSTEAD OF GOING BACK
TO SCHOOL. THIS HAPPENS A LOT
FOR MY CLIENTS BECAUSE OF THAT
LACK OF COMMUNICATION. WE ALSO
SEE, UM ESPECIALLY RECENTLY. THE
ISSUE OF IF ONE STUDENT IN A
COTTAGE IS SUSPENDED AND NOT
ALLOWED TO GO TO CLASS. THE
WHOLE COTTAGE DOESN'T GO. UM, SO
THERE ARE JUST HANGING OUT IN
THE UNIT WATCHING TV, NOT DOING
ANYTHING EDUCATIONAL. LUCKILY
FOR SOME OF THEM, THEY MIGHT GET
SOME PACKETS, BUT THAT'S ABOUT
IT. UM SO NOW LET'S DISCUSS
CURRICULUM AND STAFFING. UM,
STUDENTS IN JUVENILE COURT
SCHOOL SHOULD HAVE ACCESS TO
QUALITY EDUCATION LIKE THEIR
THEIR PEERS IN THE COMMUNITY,
INCLUDING SPECIAL EDUCATION.
ACCESS TO A THROUGH G COURSES. I
HEARD SOME COLLEAGUES SPEAK
ABOUT THAT. THAT'S GREAT, UM,
AND CAREER TECHNICAL EDUCATION
OPTIONS. UNFORTUNATELY A
DETAINED STUDENTS OPTIONS CAN BE
SEVERELY LIMITED, DEPENDING ON
WHAT SCHOOL THERE IN AND WHAT
PART OF THE STATE RIGHT SO,
ACCORDING TO THE DECODING
ALTERNATIVE EDUCATION REPORT
FROM MY COLLEAGUES. UM. OF THE
FIVE BIGGEST D O. E S. ONLY ONE
OF THOSE JUVENILE COURT SCHOOLS
OFFERED ANY A THREE G COURSES.
AND ALL OF THOSE COURSES WERE
ONLINE. UM SO COMPARED WITH
OTHER COUNTY OFFICES THAT THOSE
STUDENTS ARE NOT GETTING ACCESS
TO LIFE, A THROUGH G COURSES. UM
FIVE OUT OF 806 COURSES AT THIS
PARTICULAR JUVENILE COURT
SCHOOL. EXCUSE ME A THROUGH G
ELIGIBLE SO THIS IS A BIG
CHALLENGE OF THROUGHOUT THE
STATE. WE HAVE DIFFERENT THINGS
BEING OFFERED TWO DIFFERENT
STUDENTS. EXCUSE ME ASTHMA. UM.
I ALSO KNOW THAT FOR MANY FOR
MANY STUDENTS, UM IN MY
EXPERIENCE IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT
TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
INDIVIDUALS WORKING WITH THEM
HAVE THE APPROPRIATE CREDENTIAL.
SO SPECIAL EDUCATION STUDENTS
WORKING WITH A TEACHER WITH A
SPECIAL EDUCATION CREDENTIAL AND
STUDENTS WHO ARE IN HIGH SCHOOL
COURSES BEING TAUGHT BY THOSE
WHO SPECIALIZE IN A SINGLE
SUBJECT, AND I'VE HEARD FROM A
LOT OF COLLEAGUES WHO ARE
WORKING INSIDE THAT YOU HAVE
AUDITED WITH DETENTION
FACILITIES IN L. A COUNTY THAT
THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT. OH,
THANK YOU SO MUCH. UM SO I'LL
JUST ALSO NOTE FROM MY PERSONAL
EXPERIENCE GETTING STUDENTS
ENROLLED IN AND EITHER G COURSE
, EVEN THE ONLINE ONES IS
CERTAINLY A CHALLENGE. UM IT'S
NOT THE DEFAULT. IN FACT,
ENROLLING THEM IN THE EASIEST
COURSE IS UM AND I JUST WANT TO
NOTE THAT I'VE HAD CLIENTS WHO
YOU KNOW, THEY SPEND THE
MAJORITY OF THEIR TIME
INCARCERATED GOING TO SCHOOL IN
THE FACILITY. IF THAT HAPPENS,
THEY HAVE NO WAY TO APPLY TO IT
FOR YOUR COLLEGE FOR A CSU OR AN
A G, OR YOU SEE IN CALIFORNIA
BECAUSE THEY'RE IN THE DETENTION
FACILITY IN L, A COUNTY THE
WHOLE TIME AND NOT ABLE TO
ACCESS THE A THREE G COURSES
THEY NEED. I ALSO WANT TO NOTE
THAT YOU KNOW, A LOT OF OUR
CLIENTS IN L. A COUNTY HAVE
ISSUES ACCESSING THEIR SPECIAL
EDUCATION SERVICES. THERE'S AN
ONGOING UM YOU KNOW, ATTORNEY
GENERALS. UM SETTLEMENT WITH THE
COUNTY DUE TO THE LACK OF
COORDINATION BETWEEN THE
PROBATION DEPARTMENT AND COR
WEEK. SO WHILE THESE FOLKS HERE
MAYBE WORKING TOGETHER REALLY
WELL, IT'S NOT TRUE FOR ALL
COUNTIES, UM SO WHAT I'LL SAY,
UM THE REST OF THE I'LL LET
LIMIT THE REST OF MY REMARKS
SYSTEM RECOMMENDATIONS THAT I
HAVE THAT COME FROM MY
EXPERIENCE AS WELL AS THE, UM
COLLEAGUES THAT I WORK WITH. SO
AS AN ADVOCATE FOR YOUNG PEOPLE.
I WOULD LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER THE
FOLLOWING RECOMMENDATIONS. YOU
KNOW? CONSIDERING REMOVING YOUNG
PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY AT YOU
KNOW. AND EDUCATING THEM IN IN A
FACILITY AS A LAST RESORT, IF AT
ALL POSSIBLE THAT IS BEING DONE
ACROSS THE ACROSS THE STATE. I
THINK CHAIR AT MCCARTHY
MENTIONED THAT THE NUMBERS ARE
GOING DOWN ACROSS THE STATE. UM
AND THEN PRIORITIZE IN PERSON
LEARNING IN A CLASSROOM WITH A
TEACHER WHEN AT ALL POSSIBLE,
RIGHT, AND THAT'S FOR K THROUGH
12. BUT AND WE'LL HEAR FROM THE
HIGHER ED FOLKS LEADER, BUT
THAT'S CERTAINLY TRUE FOR K
THROUGH 12. THIS IS REALLY
IMPORTANT FOR SPECIAL EDUCATION
STUDENTS IN PARTICULAR, AND WE
SAW THE IMPACT OF THAT DURING
THE PANDEMIC. MAKE SURE STAFF
ARE APPROPRIATELY CREDENTIAL,
INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO
SPECIAL EDUCATION SERVICES.
IMPLEMENT INDIVIDUALS
INDIVIDUALIZED LEARNING PLANS
FOR ALL STUDENTS, INCLUDING
ACADEMIC AND CAREER COUNSELING.
THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE
FIGURING OUT IF THEY'RE GOING TO
DO A CT PROGRAM, OR THEY'RE
GOING TO DO THE A THROUGH G
PATHWAY, AND THEN YOU KNOW, GO
ON THAT ROUTE. THEY NEED SOME
HELP FIGURING THAT STUFF OUT AND
IF IT'S JUST LIKE I'M GOING TO
DO IT, YOU KNOW WE'RE GOING TO
JUST ASSIGN YOU THIS WITHOUT ANY
OTHER OPPORTUNITIES THAT'S
REALLY CHALLENGING FOR THEM.
HMM. I'D ALSO NOTE THAT IN
ADDITION TO HIGHER ED AND CTE
OPTIONS READING INTERVENTION,
MATH INTERVENTION PROGRAMS ARE
REALLY IMPORTANT. I THINK
SOMEONE MENTIONED BEFORE THE
READING LEVEL IN MATH LEVEL OF
MANY STUDENTS IN THESE
FACILITIES ARE VERY LOW IF
THEY'RE GRADUATING, AND THEY'RE
JUST SITTING AROUND WITHOUT, YOU
KNOW, HAVING THE ACCESS TO THOSE
INTERVENTION PROGRAMS, WE'RE
GOING TO BE HAVING THEM GO OUT
INTO THE COMMUNITY WITHOUT
HAVING THE SKILLS THEY MIGHT
NEED. UM LASTLY, I THINK ONE OF
THE BIG THINGS TO CONSIDER WHEN
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
ACCOUNTABILITY PROCESSES IS JUST
FIGURING OUT HOW THE COMMUNITY
THAT WORKS WITH THESE YOUNG
PEOPLE IS BETTER ABLE TO ACCESS
THE EL CAP PROCESS. THE LOCAL
CONTROL ACCOUNTABILITY PLANNED
PROCESS, ESPECIALLY FOR THE
FUNDING, BECAUSE I THINK IN SOME
COUNTIES THAT MAY BE DONE IN A
MORE TRANSPARENT WAY THAN OTHERS
IN OUR COUNTY. IT'S REALLY
CHALLENGING TO ENGAGE IN THAT
PROCESS FOR ADVOCATES. UM AND
YOUNG PEOPLE CERTAINLY DON'T
HAVE A VOICE THERE. UM THIS IS
REALLY IMPORTANT AS WE'RE
CONSIDERING MORE AND MORE FOLKS
RETURNING TO THE COUNTIES WITH
DJ REALIGNMENT AS WELL. AND I'M
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS
FROM MY EXPERIENCE. THANKS.
THANK YOU. I'LL OPEN IT UP TO
THE COMMITTEE. BUT MR CHAIR YEAH
. YEAH I KNOW. WE HAVE MULTIPLE,
UM, COUNTIES HERE. SO MAYBE HE
GOES BACK TO MY FIRST QUESTION.
THERE ARE ANY OTHER COUNTIES DO
YOU HAVE LIKE A VERY LIVING
LIMITED NUMBER, LIKE LESS THAN
10 OR SO. INDIVIDUALS IN YOUR IN
YOUR COUNTY FACILITY. OTHER
VENTURA OR ALAMEDA? I'M SORRY.
WHAT WAS THE QUESTION? YOU HAVE
LESS THAN A HANDFUL OF KIDS.
THEY'RE STILL NO POPULATIONS IN
YOUR 75 75 75, ALSO IN ALAMEDA
COUNTY, 75 THAT YOU HAVE I
ASSUME THAT. UM, SINCE THERE ARE
FEWER KIDS ARE RESTED. AND SOME
OF THE SENSING THAT HAS CHANGED.
THAT IS THE TIME THAT THEY HAVE
ARE SERVING LONGER THAN IN YEARS
PAST. RIGHT THERE SERVING LONGER
. IF THEY'RE THEY'RE THEY'RE
PROBABLY SERVING A LONGER 25 NOW
, RIGHT? YEAH, WELL, WE FIND
THAT IN LOS ANGELES COUNTY, THE
AVERAGE LENGTH OF STATE IS
INCREASING. UM, AND IT'S GONNA
INCREASE EVEN FURTHER. OBVIOUSLY
WITH SB 8 23 REALIGNMENT WITH
USE FOLKS STAYING IN THEIR
FACILITIES, AND IT'S PRIMARILY
BECAUSE THE YOUTH THAT DO END UP
BEING DETAINED ARE GENERALLY
CHARGED WITH THE MORE SERIOUS
AND VIOLENT OFFENSES. 707 B
OFFENSES AND GENERALLY, THOSE
COURT PROCEEDINGS TAKE A LOT
LONGER THAN IF IT WERE SERIOUS.
CRIMES THAT WERE NOT SO SERIOUS.
SO IT'S HARD TO GENERALIZE
BECAUSE EVERY INDIVIDUAL IS
DIFFERENT. WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE
AVERAGE EDUCATION PLAN PROGRAM
THAT 20 YEARS INDIVIDUALS IS
PARTICIPATING WITH CHIEF, ARE.
ALL OF OUR STUDENTS WHO DO NOT
HAVE A DIPLOMA YET ARE ENROLLED
IN HIGH SCHOOL, AND, UM SOME OF
THEM HAVE HAD DUAL ENROLLMENT
OPPORTUNITIES IN COLLEGE, AND
THAT'S SOMETHING WE ARE STRIVING
TO EXPAND. UM AND THEN STUDENTS
WHO HAVE GRADUATED ALREADY ARE
ENROLLED IN COLLEGE. SO WHEN YOU
SAY SOME YOU SAY THAT THE
MAJORITY OF THEM YOU PROBABLY
SAY ARE WORKING ON BASIC SKILLS.
THE G D TYPE. UM WE DON'T HAPPEN
TO OFFER G E D. WE ARE PUSHING
ALL OF OUR STUDENTS TOWARDS HIGH
SCHOOL DIPLOMA IN ALAMEDA COUNTY
. UM BUT THEY ARE ALL ENROLLED
IN CORE ACADEMICS. UM PE AND AS
I MENTIONED EARLIER, 80 G
COURSES. YES SO THERE MAYBE
YOU'RE SOME THAT MAYBE DID
SUCCEED IN SCHOOL AND THE
AVERAGE STUDENT WHO'S IN THE
SYSTEM PROBABLY DOES NOT HAVE A
STELLAR ACADEMIC CAREER. LET ME
HEAR THAT OVER AND OVER FROM OUR
VICE PRESIDENT, UNITED STATES
ALWAYS REMINDS US KIDS THAT WENT
THROUGH THE JUVENILE HALL SYSTEM
IN THE BAY AREA. THAT BEING
SAID. THERE'S SOME THAT MAYBE
OUR, UH HIGHER END. IS IT HARD
FOR US TO HAVE THESE DUAL TRACKS
TO LIKE? WORK, SOME THAT ARE
TRYING TO GET MAYBE SOME COLLEGE
TYPE PROGRAMMING AND OTHERS THAT
ARE JUST AT THE AT THE MINIMAL
LEVEL. UM WE DON'T HAVE A DUAL
TRACK AND DUAL ENROLLMENT. WHEN
WE HAD IT WAS OPEN TO ALL THE
STUDENTS WHO WERE WHO WE THOUGHT
WERE GOING TO BE THERE LONG
ENOUGH TO ENGAGE IN IT. BUT THAT
IS SOMETHING THAT'S HARD TO READ
EQT ONE POINT IF I COULD MAKE,
UM I'VE BEEN IN MY POSITION FOR
EIGHT YEARS NOW. AND WHEN I
FIRST STARTED, THERE WERE OVER
100. YOUTH ENROLLED IN OUR
SCHOOL EVERY DAY, AND NOW IT'S
MORE LIKE 50 45. THE NATURE OF
THE STUDENTS HAS CHANGED. UM
IT'S A CONCENTRATION OF NEED.
NOW WE USED TO HAVE, UM STUDENTS
ACROSS A WIDER SPECTRUM OF NEED
EDUCATIONALLY WITH SOME STUDENTS
WHO ARE BASICALLY ON TRACK. SOME
WHO UM, WE'RE BEHIND AND SOME
WHO HAD BASIC LITERACY NEEDS. WE
ARE NOW SEEING SUCH A
CONCENTRATION OF NEED. UM
SEVERAL NONREADERS COMING INTO A
STUDENTS WHO HAVE NOT BEEN
ENROLLED IN SCHOOL, SOMETIMES
FOR OVER A YEAR. UM STUDENTS WHO
ARE WAY WAY BEHIND AND THE VERY
HIGH RATE OF STUDENTS WITH I E P
SO WE'RE SEEING A MUCH HIGHER
CONCENTRATION OF NEED NOW.
CONCENTRATION OF THE AT THE
LOWER END OF EDUCATION
ATTAINMENT. THAT'S CORRECT. AND
WHAT WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO AS
POLICYMAKERS TO ADDRESS IT? I
MEAN, THE KIND OF QUESTION HERE
MISSION TO BEING INTERESTING.
LIKE WHAT DO WE ALL HERE AT?
THIS LEVEL NEEDS TO BE THINKING
ABOUT. TO HELP THIS POPULATION
SUCCEEDING WE HAVE, YOU KNOW,
ARE WE L CFF MONEY? WE DON'T WE
DON'T HAVE MANY STRINGS
ATTACHED. GOING TO SCHOOL
DISTRICTS AND COUNTY OFFICES OF
EDUCATION TO DO THESE
PROGRAMMING. SO WHAT PIECES DO
WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT? I
THINK THE FUNDING PIECE IS A BIG
ONE, UM, AND WITH A B 906
PROPOSED TO TRY TO, UM, UH,
ELEVATE THE LEVEL OF FUNDING FOR
OUR COURT AND COMMUNITIES,
SCHOOLS SO THAT WE CAN GUARANTEE
UM, CONTINUING AND, UM UH,
EXPANDING OUR SERVICES TO THIS
POPULATION THAT ARE SO IN NEED.
MAYBE THIS IS, UM BASIC, BUT
WALK US THROUGH HOW IT WORKS FOR
AS A STUDENT WHO FUNDING LIKE WE
GIVE MONEY TO SCHOOL DISTRICTS,
WHETHER THEY'RE OAKLAND SCHOOL
DISTRICTS FOR SEX CITY. WE L C F
F. IT'S LIKE NORTH OF 20 GRAND
PER PUPIL NOW DOUBLE IN THE LAST
10 YEARS. THAT'S NOT THE SAME
FOR STUDENTS WHO WERE IN YOUR
PROGRAM. SO HAVE HAVE YOU SEEN
LET'S ESSENTIALLY THE DOUBLING
OF PER PEOPLE SUPPORT, LIKE
OTHER THAN SIX MILLION KIDS IN
CALIFORNIA HAVE SEE, I THINK, UM
, CONVERSATIONS LIKE THIS OR
VERY HELPFUL BECAUSE IT
HIGHLIGHTS THE FACT THAT IT
ISN'T A ONE DIMENSIONAL MENTION
. ALL ISSUE. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT
LITERACY RATES READING LEVELS IN
TRYING TO HELP THE STUDENTS
SURVIVE ACADEMICALLY. UM YOU
KNOW, IN OUR FACILITY, WE FOUND
THAT WE NEEDED TO INVEST HEAVILY
IN A STUDENT LIBRARY. I SEND OUR
COUNTY LIBRARIAN TO CHANGE OUT
THE TITLES OF THE PROBATION
DEPARTMENT STUDENT LIBRARY,
WHERE THEY GAVE US AN AREA AND I
PUT HIGH INTEREST READING TITLES
THERE AND CHANGE AMOUNT EVERY
MONTH. THE ONLY WAY WE'RE GOING
TO GET KIDS READING IS IF THERE
HAVE ACCESS TO READING MATERIAL
, SO THE EVERY QUESTION, UH,
LEADS US TO A PURSUIT OF HOW
WE'RE GOING TO FIGURE IT OUT. UM
EVEN THOUGH OUR HIGH SCHOOL AGED
STUDENTS OUT OF THOSE 75 THAT
ARE IN THE FACILITY 13 TO 25 52
OF THEM. 51 52 OF THEM ARE HIGH
SCHOOL AGE. UH LAST YEAR WE
GRADUATED 19 OF THOSE STUDENTS,
UM, WITH A HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA.
WE'RE APPROACHING ALL OF OUR
STUDENTS TO HAVE A HIGH SCHOOL
COMPLETION EVEN IF WE'RE
FUNNELING THEM TO COMMUNITY
COLLEGE OR VOCATIONAL TRAINING
PROGRAMS. VENTURA COUNTY OFFICER
VET HAPPENED TO RETAIN ITS ROP
STATUS. SO I HAVEN'T ROPP
FACILITY THAT IF THEY EXIT THE
FACILITY, AND THEY'RE IN A
CURRENT ROP BASED VOCATIONAL
PROGRAM THEY TRANSITION TO THE
GENERAL POPULATION'S ROPP
PROGRAM IN OUR B C O E FACILITY
. UM I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE TO
HELP OUR STUDENTS BE PRODUCTIVE
WAGE EARNERS IN SOCIETY IN ORDER
FOR THEM NOT TO FALL BACK INTO
THE TRAPS OF THE STREETS. SO
MUCH SO THAT I'VE RECENTLY
INVESTED, UM, INTO DEVELOPING A
WELDING CENTER WERE COMMUNITY
MEMBERS, AS WELL AS EXITING
YOUTH WILL BE ABLE TO GET
CERTIFIED TO BE WELDERS. SO, DR
WILSON, THAT WAS VERY
INTERESTING FOR ME. UM, AND GIVE
ME YOUR PERSPECTIVE, BUT I'M
TRYING TO LOOK AT IS MAYBE HELP
US. SO WE HAVE THE PUBLIC SAFETY
BUDGET COMMITTEE UP HERE AND THE
EDUCATION COMMITTEE JOINING US
ONE. SO IN OUR WORLD, WE FUND
SCHOOLS. THERE IS NEARLY 1000
SCHOOL DISTRICTS. WE HAVE THIS
WORLD NOW WE FUND NO, NOT MANY
CATEGORICAL Z L C F F WE GET
JUST ESSENTIALLY INTENDED PERSON
PUPIL. SO HOW DOES IT WORK FOR
YOU FOR K 12 EDUCATION IN THE
COUNTY JUVENILE? FACILITIES. AND
IS IT THE SAME CELL CFF FORMULA
AND IF IT'S IF IT'S NOT, I THINK
IT'S NOT. IT'S NOT QUITE HAVE
YOU SEEN THE INCREASES IN
SUPPORT FROM THE STATE. IN OTHER
WORDS, SINCE 2012 TO 2023
ESSENTIAL, LIKE DOUBLED MONEY,
SO LIKE YOUR SCHOOL DISTRICT IN
VENTURA, NOT YOU, BUT THE
VENTURA SCHOOL DISTRICT. PER
SIXTH GRADER GETS DOUBLE THE
CASH NOW FOR THAT STUDENT, ARE
WE SEEING THE EQUIVALENT? FOR
STUDENTS, WHETHER IN YOURS OR
ALTOGETHER 50 SOME COUNTIES IN
CALIFORNIA. I THINK WE'RE SEEING
THE APPROPRIATE IMPACT OF THAT
MONEY. AND I KNOW SUPPLEMENTS,
IS IT L C FF FORGET YOUR
DIFFERENT MONEY PER STUDENT. IT
IS L CFF, HOWEVER, LET'S
REMEMBER WHETHER IT'S
INCARCERATED YOUTH OR SPECIAL
EDUCATION, YOUTH. IT'S NOT
ENOUGH MONEY TO COVER THE
EXPENSES ON THE SPECIAL ED SIDE
. SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE SPENDING
60 65% OF THEIR OWN RESOURCES TO
COVER THE BILL. WE NEED TO LOOK
AT AT STUDENTS IN THE JUVENILE
FACILITY IN THE SAME WAY THAT
WE'RE LOOKING AT STUDENTS FROM A
FUNDING PERSPECTIVE OF STUDENTS
WITH AN I E P AND THEN WHEN
THEY'RE IN THE JUVENILE
FACILITY, AND THEY HAVE AN I E
P, IT'S EVEN MORE INTENSE. SO
YES, WE'VE EXPERIENCED IN OUR
APPRECIATIVE OF THE FUNDING
LEVELS THAT WE HAVE. THE
EXPENSES ARE HIGHER. BUT EVEN
THOUGH UM UM IT'S HAVING LESS OF
A NEGATIVE IMPACT BECAUSE OF THE
INCREASED FUNDING, BUT WE CAN'T
MINIMIZE THE FACT THERE IS A
NEGATIVE IMPACT. ALSO JUST ASK A
RELATED QUESTION. SO ONE OF THE
THEMES THROUGHOUT ALL OF THE
PANEL DISCUSSIONS WERE REALLY
AROUND THE LEVEL OF SCHOOL. UH
INSTABILITY, RIGHT. SO
PARTICIPATION RIGHTS 62% VERSUS
8% IN THIS REALLY HELPFUL REPORT
THAT BEFORE THE DECODING
ALTERNATIVE EDUCATION THAT WAS
PROVIDED AND THAT YOU SPOKE TO,
SO GIVEN THE FACT THAT WE ARE
BASED ON, UM IN ENROLLMENT, OR
80, A ESSENTIALLY AND THAT
OVERLAY OF SCHOOL INSTABILITY OR
PARTICIPATION FOR EVERY
INDIVIDUAL PERSON I HAVE TO
IMAGINE. THAT IT IS VERY
DIFFICULT TO BE ABLE TO TRACK
THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING THAT WILL
BE GOING TOWARDS EVERY
INDIVIDUAL STUDENTS WITH OUR
CURRENT FUNDING FORMULA, WHICH I
THINK IS OBVIOUSLY THE SUBJECT
OF A B 906. SO IF YOU COULD
SPEAK TO ESSENTIALLY KIND OF THE
MISMATCH OF THE UH, THE WAY IN
WHICH WE ARE FUNDING YOUR
RESPECTIVE PROGRAMS VERSUS WHAT
THE ACTUAL NEED IS. THAT WOULD
BE HELPFUL TO ME. AND THEN JUST
ALSO, UM A LITTLE BIT OF A CLICK
DOWN ON THE I E. P S
SPECIFICALLY. SO YOU REMARKED, I
THINK ALL OF YOU THAT THE THAT
THE PERCENTAGE OF YOUTH WHO ARE
INCARCERATED WHO ARE WHO HAVE AN
I P IS EXTRAORDINARILY HIGH. I
DON'T BELIEVE THAT THOSE I E. P
S ALSO SPEAK TO THEIR UH UM, THE
DISRUPTION THAT HAPPENS WITH
THEIR PARTICULAR INCARCERATION,
NECESSARILY. RIGHT THERE. THESE
ARE I, P S THAT ARE COMING WITH
THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE OTHER
ACES ISSUES, OTHER LEARNING,
LEARNING CHALLENGES, LEARNING
DISABILITIES, AND IN ADDITION TO
THAT THERE IS ESSENTIALLY KIND
OF A NEW CIRCUMSTANCE BY VIRTUE
OF WHERE THEY ARE GOING TO
SCHOOL. UM, THAT CAUSES
ADDITIONAL SPECIALIZATION THAT'S
NEEDED. SO IF YOU COULD KIND OF
SPEAK TO ONE, THE MISMATCH OF
FUNDING AND THE PROGRAMS AND TO
WHAT IT MEANS TO HAVE AN I E P
AS A STUDENT IN WITHIN THE
CONTEXT OF EITHER THE JUVENILE
COURTS OR IN THEIR JUVENILE
DETENTION FACILITY, OR THE
COUNTY COMMUNITY SCHOOLS. UM.
WOW YOU CAPTURED THAT VERY WELL
. CHAIR CHAIR. BONTA. UM YOU
KNOW THEIR EXPERIENCE IS
DIFFERENT THAN WHEN IN A SCHOOL
DISTRICT SCHOOL PROGRAM BECAUSE
OF THE ACCESS TO SPECIAL ED
CREDENTIAL STAFF, FOR EXAMPLE,
IN OURS, 19 OF THE 51 HIGH
SCHOOL AGE, UH, STUDENTS ARE IN
SPECIAL ED. WE HAPPEN TO HAVE
TWO SPECIAL ED. UH TEACHERS WHO
ARE TEACHING MULTIPLE GRADES. UM
AND THEN ALSO YOU HAVE AS A
FORMER SPECIAL EDUCATION TEACHER
. YOU HAVE STUDENTS THAT ARE
RESOURCE STUDENTS AND SOME THAT
ARE SPECIAL DAY CLASS STUDENTS,
THEY AND SOME THAT MIGHT HAVE
MODERATE TO SEVERE INTELLECTUAL
DISABILITIES. ASIDE FROM ANY
CONDUCT DISORDER OR BEHAVIOR,
ISSUES THAT NEED TO BE
ADDRESSED. ON THE URSUS
CLINICIAN SIDE OR THE BEHAVIORS
SIDE. BUT THE DOWNSIDE TO THE
POPULATION AND EDUCATIONAL
EXPERIENCE IN THE IN THE
JUVENILE FACILITY IS THAT, UM
THERE'S A NEEDS TO BE EFFORT ON
THE SOCIALIZATION PIECE BECAUSE
THEY MAY NOT BE WITH AN ADEQUATE
NUMBER OF THEIR AGE APPROPRIATE
PEERS. TO HAVE. UM LEGITIMATE
EXPERIENCES WHERE THEY CAN, UM,
EXCEL AT A AND AS RAPID RATE AS
THEY WOULD BE IN A NORMAL SCHOOL
SETTING, MAKING IT VIRTUALLY
IMPOSSIBLE FOR THERE TO BE IN
IN, UH, AN ACCURATE
IMPLEMENTATION OF THEIR I E. P S
BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT ACTUALLY
BEING PROVIDED WITH THE TEACHING
STAFF OR THE. TYPE OF TEACHING
THAT THEY NEED IN ORDER TO BE
ABLE TO FULLY ADDRESS THERE. I
E. P S DEVELOPMENTALLY
APPROPRIATE HUESO IN A SCHOOL
SETTING IN ANY ENVIRONMENT. YOU
HAVE TO WORK WITHIN THE CONTEXT
THAT YOU'RE IN THESE STUDENTS.
UM HAVE TO BE THERE, SO YOU HAVE
TO ADAPT AND MUCH OF THE
SOCIALIZATION. UM ISSUES OR OR
SETBACKS THAT THEY MAY
EXPERIENCE WE'VE HAD TO ADDRESS
IN OTHER WAYS. WE WORK IN
CONCERT WITH PROBATION AS WELL
AS BEHAVIORAL HEALTH. WHAT WE'VE
DONE IN IN IN ORDER TO HELP
STUDENTS EVEN WITH EMPATHY OR
CARE FOR OTHERS IS WE'VE
INTRODUCED, UH, THERAPY IN
CONCERT WITH PROBATION WITH
ANIMALS. WE'VE HAD A MINIATURE
PONIES BROUGHT IN SO THAT
STUDENTS LEARN TO INTERACT AND
START TO ELOPING SOME EMPATHY
SKILLS AS WELL AS IS THERAPY
DOGS IN THE CELL BLOCKS. AND
WHILE THAT MAY SEEM FAR FETCHED
, YOU HAVE TO ENGAGE STUDENTS
WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO FEEL AND
HAVE EMPATHY. AND THEN YOU NEED
TO HAVE THEIR BEHAVIOR IS IN
THERAPISTS HELP THEM TRANSFER
THOSE SKILLS TO INTERACTING WITH
AGE, APPROPRIATE PEERS, AS WELL
AS PEERS OF, UH UH OF DIFFERENT
AGES. UM YOU HAVE TO MODIFY AND
PLAY. YOU ALMOST HAVE TO, UH,
APPROACH THE SITUATION LIKE
MACGYVER AND PLAY THE CARDS THAT
YOU'RE DEALT WITH, BUT IT'S NOT
AN IDEAL SETTING. UM BUT I
DON'T. I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE
THAT THE STARTING POINT OF THE
SETTING AND THE JUNO VASILY
MIGHT NOT BE IDEAL. BUT IN
CONCERT, ALL THE PROFESSIONALS
HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER. TO MAKE
THE EXPERIENCE AS PRODUCTIVE FOR
THAT STUDENTS SO THEY CAN BECOME
INDEPENDENT AND THRIVE IN THE
GENERAL COMMUNITY WHEN THEY'RE
RELEASED. THANKS ANY OF THE
OTHER PANELISTS WANT TO ADDRESS
THE MISMATCHING FUNDING THAT
WOULD BE HELPFUL. I'LL JUST ADD
ANOTHER QUESTION BECAUSE I ALSO
WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL OF MAKING
SURE WE GET TO THE NEXT PANEL,
SO PLEASE TALK ABOUT THE
MISMATCH AND FUNDING. I AM
DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE
INEQUITY IN ACCESS IN BASIC
ACCESS, FOR INSTANCE, TO 80 G
COURSES, SO THE FACT THAT
CURRENT AND SANTA CLARA COUNTY
AND, UM, ORANGE AND LIKE ONLY 5.
HAVE ACTUAL AVAILABILITY OF
BASIC 80 G BEING ABLE TO HAVE A
STUDENT MEET THEIR REQUIREMENTS.
THAT'S THAT'S QUITE CONCERNING.
SO IF YOU COULD ALSO SPEAK TO
THE FACT OF JUST IS THERE A
BASIC STANDARD OF PRACTICE OR A
STANDARD OF RIGOR THAT WE ARE
ATTEMPTING TO OFFER STUDENTS WHO
ARE IN INVOLVED IN ANY OF OUR UM
ANY FORM OF DETENTION. UM I CAN
SPEAK OF FIRST TO THE ADA G. UM
IT IS SOMETHING THAT ACROSS THE
STATE COUNTY OFFICES OF
EDUCATION ARE WORKING TO
INCREASE IN ALAMEDA COUNTY. AS
RECENTLY AS 34 YEARS AGO, WE DID
NOT HAVE A DRUGGIE CLASSES AND
IT'S BEEN A HUGE UNDERTAKING AND
ONE THAT WE STRONGLY BELIEVE IN
AS A WAY TO INCREASE THE RIGOR
IN OUR CLASSROOMS. AS WELL AS TO
ENSURE THAT ALL STUDENTS HAVE
ACCESS TO A TO G, UM AT ALL
TIMES. SO THAT IS SOMETHING, UM
, THAT COUNTY OFFICES ARE
ACTIVELY WORKING ON. UM AND WE
ARE SEEING AN INCREASE ON SOME
COUNTIES HAVE MADE MORE PROGRESS
AT DIFFERENT RATES. UM, WHILE
WHILE OTHERS UM, ARE, UM,
FOCUSING ON OTHER AREAS? GROWTH
AREAS? UM I DID WANT TO ADDRESS
ONE, UH, PIECE OF THE MISMATCH
THAT YOU REFERRED TO CHAIR. UM
ONE. UH, ISSUE YOU BROUGHT UP
THE STABILITY RATES AND
STABILITY RATES ARE SET BASED ON
. THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS WHO ARE
ENROLLED IN A SCHOOL FOR AN
ENTIRE SCHOOL YEAR. COURTS
SCHOOLS HAVE PHENOMENALLY LOW
STABILITY RATES. UM I THINK,
MINUS 3% WHICH IS A GOOD THING
WE DON'T WANT TO SEE STUDENTS
ENROLLED WITH US FOR A YEAR. WE
WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM
TRANSITION TO DISTRICT SCHOOLS.
UM, BUT THIS DOES CREATE A
MISMATCHED FELT, PARTICULARLY BY
OUR FRAUD. SMALLER COUNTY
OFFICES A BIT. UM SO IN COUNTIES
WHERE YOU MAY HAVE BE OPERATING
TWO CLASSROOMS AT SOMETIMES AND
OTHER TIMES ONLY NEED ONE
CLASSROOM. YOU MUST STAFF TO
HAVE TWO CLASSROOMS READY
BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW MONDAY
MORNING WHEN YOU WALK IN WHETHER
YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO
CLASSROOMS OR NOT, SO, UM, A
CERTAIN AMOUNT OF, UM STAFFING
HAS TO BE IN PLACE FOR THE JUST
IN CASE OR BE PREPARED FOR A
MONDAY PLAN. UM SIMILARLY, I CAN
RELATE TO THE, UM SPEECH.
LANGUAGE. PATHOLOGISTS ARE VERY
HARD TO COME BY. UM THERE'S A
SHORTAGE ACROSS THE STATE AND WE
RETAIN A PART TIME ONE. I DON'T
ALWAYS HAVE STUDENTS WHO NEED
SPEECH LANGUAGE, BUT I OFTEN
HAVE A FEW, SO I RETAIN A SPEECH
LANGUAGE PATHOLOGIST. UM SO
THESE ARE SOME EXAMPLES OF HOW
WE HAVE TO BE PREPARED. UM
OTHERWISE WE WILL NOT BE STAFFED
OR ABLE TO MEET THE NEEDS OF
STUDENTS WHEN THEY COME IN, AND
WE DON'T HAVE WARNING ABOUT WHEN
THEY'RE COMING IN. THANK YOU.
THAT'S JUST DO YOU HAVE A
QUESTION? COMMENT. LET ME DO IT
THIS WAY, BECAUSE I MAY NEED TO
HAVE A SEPARATE CONVERSATION. UM
I THINK MR DOLLAR HAS WORKED.
NOT ONLY IN BUT. OH MR FORD. I'M
SORRY MR FORD HAS WORKED. NOT
ONLY ALAMEDA, BUT YOU ALSO
WORKED IN L A COUNTY. I HAVE.
YES, SIR. L. A COUNTY IS A MESS,
AND I'M BEING NICE. AND I WOULD
LIKE TO KNOW. WHAT ARE YOU DOING
DIFFERENTLY NOW? THAT ISN'T THIS
. THIS MAY BE A FIVE HOUR
DISCUSSION, SO I DON'T KNOW IF
THIS WE'LL TALK OFFLINE BECAUSE
I ALSO DON'T WANNA GET YOU IN
TROUBLE. BUT I WE'VE GOT TO DO
SOMETHING WITH L, A COUNTY AND
THEN I CAN GIVE SOME SOME BRIEF
CONTEXT. SO MY EXPERIENCE IN LOS
ANGELES COUNTY I WORKED THERE
FOR 16 YEARS. AND I STARTED OFF
AS A DETENTION SERVICE STAFF
WORKING IN JUVENILE HALL AND I
WORKED IN JUVENILE HALL BETWEEN
THE YEARS OF 2002 TO 2005. UH
AND AFTER THAT POINT, I
TRANSITIONED TO CAMP AND AS I
KIND OF ROSE UP THE RANKS, I WAS
ON THE ADULT SIDE, AND SO I
WORKED IN ADULT SUPERVISION AND
ADULT OPERATIONS UP UNTIL 2018.
AND THEN IN 2018. I TRANSITIONED
HERE TO ALAMEDA COUNTY. SO MY
ROLE IN ELEMENT AND LOS ANGELES
COUNTY WAS NOT IN A LEADERSHIP
ROLE AT ALL. AND I HAD NO
INVOLVEMENT AT ALL IN HOW THE
FACILITIES WERE A RANDOM LOS
ANGELES SO UNFORTUNATELY, I
COULDN'T SPEAK TO THAT, SIR.
THANK YOU. ANY FINAL QUESTIONS
FOR THIS PANEL QUESTION. I DON'T
CARE. GO AHEAD. OKAY. UM THESE
ARE FOR THE TWO COUNTY OFFICES.
OF EDUCATION. THIS IS ABOUT THE
TRANSITION PLANS FOR THE
STUDENTS WHEN THEY ARRIVED AT
THE COURT SCHOOL AND WHEN THEY
RETURN TO THEIR SCHOOL OF
ORIGIN. WHAT ARE WHAT ARE THE
ROLES FOR THAT FOR THE COUNTY?
OPPOSITE EDUCATION IN THIS AND
WHO ELSE HAS A ROLE IN THIS
PROCESS? WE CAN ATTACKING THIS.
WE HAVE A TRANSITION SPECIALISTS
AS WELL AS A COUNSELOR ON STAFF
AT OUR AT OUR FACILITY, BOTH IN
THE INTAKE AND AS WELL AS THE
TRANSITION OUT, UH, THEY MAKE
SURE THAT THERE'S A PROPER HAND
OFF TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. UM
OFFICIAL, UM, AND MEET WITH THE
PARENT AS WELL AS THE STUDENT ON
THAT TRANSITION, AND AFTER THE
HANDOFF OF THE BATON PER SE
EXIST. THEN, FOR SUBSEQUENT
WEEKS, THEY'RE STILL CONTACT.
THERE ARE OCCASIONS WHERE THE
STUDENT, UM MIGHT NOT FEEL
COMFORTABLE GOING BACK TO THE
SCHOOL DISTRICT SAYS IT'S
SETTING, ESPECIALLY IF THERE WAS
A GANG ACTIVITY OR AFFILIATIONS
, AND THEY'RE AFRAID OF NOT
BEING SUCCESSFUL IN THE SCHOOL
ENVIRONMENT. WE MAKE SURE THAT
THEY HAVE ACCESS TO COUNSELING
FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT SIDE OR
WE MAINTAIN COMMUNICATION ON OUR
END. UM WE PUT A LOT OF ENERGY
AND EXPECTATION INTO THE
TRANSITION PROCESS, AND WE
BELIEVE THAT IT DOESN'T BEGIN AT
THAT MOMENT WHEN THEY'RE GOING
TO TRANSITION OUT, BUT
THROUGHOUT THEIR EXPERIENCE AND
STAY THERE WERE CONSTANTLY
TRYING TO BUILD THE STUDENTS
HAVING THE SKILL SET. TO RE
ENGAGE IN THE GENERAL SETTING
AND WORKING WITH THE FAMILIES AS
WELL. UM I WOULD ECHO THE POINT
OF MY COLLEAGUE THAT WAS VIEWED
TRANSITION AS THE POINT. UM WHEN
STUDENTS ARE BOOKED, THAT'S WHEN
WE BEGIN ON TRANSITION SERVICES
IN ALAMEDA COUNTY. WE HAVE BOTH
AN ORIENTATION AND ASSESSMENT
CENTER THAT WORKS WITH THE YOUTH
WHEN THEY FIRST COME IN. WHILE
STUDENTS ARE THERE WE DEVELOP AN
INDIVIDUALIZED LEARNING AND
TRANSITION PLAN. FOR EACH
STUDENT WHO WAS ENROLLED FOR AT
LEAST 15 DAYS BECAUSE IT DOES
TAKE US SOME TIME TO WORK WITH
THE STUDENT, UM AND ALAMEDA
COUNTY HAS A TRANSITION CENTER.
UM, WHICH IS A MULTI AGENCY
COLLABORATION TO TRY TO WORK ON
HELPING STUDENTS AND THEIR
FAMILIES WHEN THE STUDENTS EXIT.
JUVENILE HALL. UM WE ARE THE
TRANSITION CENTER, UM, IS
MANAGED BY PROBATION AND ALSO
HAS BEHAVIORAL HEALTHCARE. UM
OAKLAND UNIFIED. COUNTY OFFICE
OF EDUCATION. UM I WILL SAY, UM
, JUST FOR MY COUNTY. IT'S AN
AREA THAT WE'VE PUT A LOT OF
EFFORT INTO AND IT'S NOT ENOUGH.
UM THE TRANSITIONS ARE HARD AND
, UM, WHEREAS WE, UH GREETS
STUDENTS WHO HAVE HAD, UM,
STRUGGLED WITH EDUCATION IN
THEIR HISTORIES. WE ALSO KNOW
THAT THEY STRUGGLE WHEN THEY
LEAVE. UM OUR FACILITIES, SO
THAT IS THAT IS A HUGE AREA OF
FOCUS FOR US IN ALAMEDA COUNTY.
IF I CAN COMMENT JUST QUICKLY
ABOUT VENTURA COUNTY AND THE WAY
THAT WE SUPPORT THE TRANSITION
AS WELL, THAT'S AS FAR AS
PROBATION IS CONCERNED. WE HAVE
A TEAM THAT USUALLY IT'S
DEFINITELY RAN BY THE
SUPERVISING PROBATION OFFICER.
THAT'S OUT THERE. BUT ALSO WE
HAVE LIVED EXPERIENCE MENTORS
WHO ARE IN OUR FACILITY EMBEDDED
IN THERE. WE HAVE FOUR OF THEM.
ALL THEY DO IS WORK WITH YOUTH.
FOR THAT'S ALL THERE THAT THAT'S
ALL THEIR JOB IS REALLY THEY
TRANSITION OUT WITH THEM, AND WE
ALSO HAVE A COMMUNITY BASED
ORGANIZATION WHO WE CONTRACT
WITH WHO DOES THE SAME THING.
THEY WORK WITH THE YOUTH AND
THEIR FAMILIES ON THE TRANSITION
WITH THE PROBATION OFFICER IN
THE LIVED EXPERIENCE, MENTORS
AND PART OF THAT IS, YOU KNOW,
TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY
GET BACK IN IN SCHOOL. AND BUT
BUT FIVE TIMES I'D LIKE TO
COMMENT ON THE A THREE G TO CUT
THE COLLEGE PIECE. UM VENTURA
COUNTY. I'M NOT SURE WE STAY
AWAY OR WE STEER AWAY FROM A
THROUGH J COURSES AT ALL. WE UM
THE ONLINE COURT COLLEGE COURSES
THAT THEY'RE TAKING. WE HAVE ONE
YOUTH WHOSE 28 UNITS AWAY FROM
HIS A WE'VE HAD TO YOUTH WHO
HAVE BEEN RELEASED FROM YT F UM
ONE IN FEBRUARY ONE IN MARCH.
THEY BOTH WERE ATTENDING COLLEGE
. THEY BOTH ARE STILL IN
COMPLIANCE WITH THEIR
SUPERVISION TERMS, AND THEY ARE
BOTH STILL ATTENDING THOSE
COLLEGE CLASSES AS WE SPEAK. AND
IF I CAN JUST DO A QUICK PLUG,
YOU KNOW, OUR VISION IS TO NEXT
SEMESTER HAVE, UH IN PERSON
COLLEGE COURSES WITH A COHORT.
THAT'S TWO YEAR COHORT WHERE
THEY, UM THEY AT THE END OF
THAT, THERE, THEY GET THEIR
ASSOCIATES DEGREE. AND THEN
WE'LL SET THEM UP WHILE THEY'RE
IN THE FACILITY. IF THEY'RE
STILL WITH US TO, UM, UH, TO GET
A BACHELOR'S DEGREE. SIMILAR TO
WHAT D J. J DOES. I THINK THE
UNFORTUNATE REALITY IS THAT WE
HAVE. WITH ALAMEDA COUNTY IN
VENTURA COUNTY HERE, PROBABLY
THE MORE FURTHER ALONG AND
DEVELOPED PROGRAMS, AND WE KNOW
THAT THERE ARE OTHER COUNTY
OFFICES OF EDUCATION. AH THAT
HAVE A WORSE STUDENTS ARE HAVING
A VERY DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE, AND
THAT IS AN OPPORTUNITY AND A
CHALLENGE FOR US, SO I JUST
WANTED TO ASK A VERY QUICK
QUESTION ABOUT THE, UH, TO THE
TO OUR PROBATION LEADERS HERE.
UM DO YOU TRACK THE RECIDIVISM
RATES FOR YOUTH? THAT ARE
COMMITTED TO YOUR FACILITIES. SO
WE RECENTLY HIRED A RESEARCHER,
UM, THAT'S STAFFED ON FULL TIME
WITH US, AND THAT'S HIS FIRST
DUTY IS TO ESTABLISH RECIDIVISM
RATES ONGOING, SO NOT YET
CORRECT, BUT TYPICALLY, WE WOULD
DO IS WE WOULD OUTSOURCE THAT TO
A, UH A CONSULTANT WHO WOULD
COME IN AND DO THAT, BUT YOU'RE
RIGHT. WE DON'T HAVE A RECEIPT
OF HIS MARRIAGE AND ALAMEDA
COUNTY RESPONSE. NOT YET. OKAY,
GREAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I
REALLY APPRECIATE YOU ALL COMING
UP. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE'LL
MOVE ON TO PANEL THREE, WHICH IS
THE HIGHER EDUCATION IN COUNTY
JUVENILE CORRECTIONAL
FACILITIES.
THANK YOU. WE WILL BEGIN WITH
JOHN KEANE. THE CHIEF PROVISIONS
OFFICER FOR SAN MATEO COUNTY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH CHAIR.
BONSAI APPRECIATE BEING HERE
TODAY. THIS IS A REALLY
IMPORTANT TOPIC FOR ME. MY NAME
IS JOHN KEANE. I'M THE CHIEF
PROBATION OFFICER IN SAN MATEO
COUNTY. WANT TO TALK A LITTLE
BIT ABOUT MY COUNTY IN TERMS OF
JUST KIND OF OUR DEMOGRAPHIC
INFORMATION AND THEN REALLY GET
TO THE IMPORTANT STUFF, WHICH IS
TO TALK ABOUT THIS REALLY
WONDERFUL PROGRAM THAT I'VE HAD
THE PLEASURE. OF THE LAST DECADE
TO SEE GROW AND BUILD AND
HOPEFULLY BECOME A MODEL FOR
WHAT'S POSSIBLE THROUGHOUT THE
STATE CEMETERY COUNTY. WE HAVE
AN AVERAGE DAILY POPULATION OF
ABOUT 25. WE ARE RATED IN OUR
JUVENILE HALL FOR CAPACITY OF
180. WE ACTUALLY ARE DEMOGRAPHIC
BREAKDOWN. WE ARE 70. LATINO
REPRESENTED IN OUR FACILITY
AVERAGE TODAY. TERM OF STAY
INSIDE OF OUR FACILITIES ABOUT
32 DAYS, AND THAT'S REALLY
IMPORTANT BECAUSE I WANT TO TALK
A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME OF THE
CHALLENGES LATER WHEN WE TALK
ABOUT THAT KIND OF HIGHER
EDUCATION GOAL THAT I THINK WE
HAVE TO IMPROVE ON THAT. OUR
MEDIAN STAY IS ONLY SIX DAYS.
AND I REALLY WANT TO STRESS THAT
BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S AN
IMPORTANT PART OF WHAT WE HOPE
TO TRY TO ACCOMPLISH. AND HOW DO
WE DO THAT IN AN EFFECTIVE
MANNER, CONSIDERING THAT WE ONLY
HAVE A LIMITED AMOUNT OF TIME
WITH SOME OF THE YOUNG PEOPLE WE
WORK WITH? THE AVERAGE AGE
POPULATION IS ROUGHLY AROUND 70%
BETWEEN 15 AND 17. ONLY ABOUT
27% OVER THE AGE OF 18 18 AND
ABOVE. THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT
JUST BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S A
LOT OF CONCERN, OBVIOUSLY, WITH
THE TRANSITION FROM D, J J AND
WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE IT'S
IMPORTANT TO NOTE AND I THINK
CHAIR BONTEMPI HIT ON THIS
EARLIER IN WHICH HE TALKED ABOUT
THE GREAT VARIATION BETWEEN
COUNTY, THE COUNTY IN TERMS OF
HOW WE ALL LOOK AND KIND OF SOME
OF THE CHALLENGES WILL FACE. SO,
FOR EXAMPLE, CEMETERY COUNTY
WE'RE NOT EXPECTING BACK A HUGE
IMPACT. FROM D. J. J REALIGNMENT
. WE DIDN'T OVERLY RELY ON D. J.
J IS UP WAY IN WHICH WE DID OUR
BUSINESS BEFORE WE TENDED TO
KEEP ALL OF OUR YOUNG PEOPLE
LOCAL BECAUSE WE BELIEVE THAT WE
CAN SERVE THEM IN THEIR NATURAL
COMMUNITIES. AND SO I ONLY HAVE
ONE PERSON WHO IS STILL A D. J J
AND THAT YOUNG PERSON WILL, UM,
PAROLE OUT BEFORE THEY COME HOME
SO WE WON'T BE IMPACTED DIRECTLY
FORM THE CLOSURE. UM AS WE THINK
ABOUT THEIR FUTURE STATE, WE'RE
PROBABLY ONLY GOING TO HAVE
SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 1 TO 5.
YOUNGER ADULTS THAT WE SEE. UH
THIS NEW KIND OF WAY OF DOING
BUSINESS IMPACTING US IN TERMS
OF OUR FACILITY. WE HAVE YOUNG,
UM ONE YOUNG PERSON NOW WHO IS
IN OUR FACILITY AND ARE SECURE
TRACK PROGRAM. THEIR YOUNG
PERSON TECHNICALLY IS THE
CAPABLE OF SPENDING UP TO SEVEN
YEARS IN OUR PROGRAM. BUT EVEN
WITH THAT THAT'S NOT A
GUARANTEED AMOUNT OF TIME. ALONG
WITH THE NEW LEGISLATION. IT
DOES ALLOW FOR WHEN I WAS YOUNG
PEOPLE GO BACK TO COURT EVERY
SIX MONTHS OR SO FOR REVIEW.
THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE
YOUNG PERSON TO LEAVE A SECURE
SPACE AND ACTUALLY GO INTO THE
LESS SECURE ENVIRONMENT. SO IT'S
NOT A GUARANTEED THAT EVERY TIME
A YOUNG PERSON IS SENTENCED TO A
PERIOD OF TIME INSIDE A FACILITY
THAT THEY WOULD DO THAT NUMBER
THAT YOU SEE KIND OF BROADCAST
OUT. UM WHEN I THINK ABOUT KIND
OF WHAT PROBATIONS ROLE IS IN
TERMS OF THIS THIS GOAL OF
ACHIEVING HIGHER EDUCATION AND
FACILITY IN OUR SPACE I REALLY
SAW MYSELF 10 YEARS AGO.
STEPPING INTO THIS ROLE AS HOW
CAN I KIND OF HELPED CREATE MORE
YESES THAN THOSE IN THE FACILITY
? I THINK FOR A LONG TIME WE
KIND OF YOU KNOW, DIDN'T
NECESSARILY ENVISION AT THE
LOCAL LEVEL THIS IDEA OF
CREATING A SPACE FOR HIGHER
EDUCATION BECAUSE TYPICALLY,
YOUNG PEOPLE DIDN'T STAY WITH US
VERY LONG. SO AS THESE
CONVERSATIONS AROUND, YOU KNOW
HOW IN CAN WHY WOULD YOU BUILD
SOMETHING THAT IS POTENTIALLY
THAT YOU WON'T SEE KIND OF FORK
ITS WAY THROUGH THIS FRUITION,
SO I REALLY TRIED TO LOOK AT IT
FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT ARE
SOME THINGS WE CAN DO TO
CONNECT. OUR YOUNG PEOPLE TO
HIGHER EDUCATION. AND ALSO WHAT
CAN WE DO IN OUR FACILITIES WHO
WERE THAT WERE NOT ORIGINALLY
BUILT FOR THIS PURPOSE. WE WERE
NOT ORIGINALLY BUILT FOR LONG
TERM STAY. WE WERE ONLY SUPPOSED
TO BE TRANSITIONAL SPACES AND
ONCE A YOUNG PERSON WAS RECEIVED
THEIR DISPOSE OR THEIR
DISPOSITION THEY WOULD
TRANSITION OUT OF OUR FACILITY
BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY OF
WHEREVER THEY'RE GOING TO GO AT
THAT POINT. SO WE LOOKED AT IN
SAN MATEO COUNTY. WE LOOKED AT
OKAY. WHAT WERE SOME THINGS WE
COULD DO IMMEDIATELY TO DIDN'T
REQUIRE. A BUNCH OF FUNDING
DIDN'T REQUIRE FOR US TO HAVE TO
DO A LOT OF ASKS OF OTHERS. SO
REALLY, WE STARTED TO LOOK AT
THE LOGISTICS OF OUR FACILITY.
WHAT CAN WE CHANGE AROUND THE
FACILITY TO MAKE IT WORK?
BECAUSE WE CREATE A SPACE INSIDE
OF OUR CURRENT CONFIGURATION TO
ALLOW FOR HIGHER EDUCATION TO
HAPPEN? AND SO A LOT OF IT WAS
ABOUT REALLY TALKING TO OUR
STAFF AND WILLING TO CHANGE THE
MINDSET OF OUR EMPLOYEES AROUND
HIS CONCEPT. WHAT CAN WE DO TO
BRING? YOU KNOW THE YOUNG PEOPLE
TOGETHER BUT ALSO CREATE AND
STRENGTHEN THE PARTNERSHIPS WE
ALREADY HAD. WE HAVE A VERY
STRONG WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH
OUR COUNTY OFFICE OF ED IN SAN
MATEO COUNTY. WE ARE OFFERING
CLASSES AT H A G IN OUR SPACE.
WE ALSO HAVE HIGH SCHOOL
DIPLOMAS. WE DO G D S. WE'VE
ALWAYS HAD A VERY COMPREHENSIVE
AND ROBUST PLATFORM FOR YOUNG
PEOPLE. SO THIS IDEA TO
TRANSITION TO A HIGHER EDUCATION
SPACE WAS NOT VERY FOREIGN FOR
US. SO WHAT I TRIED TO DO WAS
REALLY LOOK AT WHAT WAS NEEDED
AND SO WHETHER IT WAS KIND OF
BRINGING INTERNET INTO THE
FACILITY, WHICH, AT THE TIME WE
FIRST STARTED TALKING ABOUT THIS
WAS THAT WAS A REALLY BIG ASK.
TRYING TO FIND OPPORTUNITIES FOR
COMPUTERS AND MONITORS AND BASIC
THINGS THAT WERE NECESSARY WAS
ALSO SOMETHING THAT WAS REALLY
IMPORTANT. BUT REALLY, THE
STRONGEST AND MOST IMPORTANT
THING WAS THAT WE HAD A
TREMENDOUS PARTNERSHIP WITH THE
COLLEGE OF SAN MATEO THROUGH THE
PROJECT CHANGE PROGRAM. THEY
REALLY SET A PATHWAY FOR US TO
FOLLOW IN TO SUPPORT THEM TO
CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT IN THE
FACILITY BUT ALSO EQUALLY AS
IMPORTANT TO CREATE A SPACE FOR
THE YOUNG PEOPLE ONCE THEY
TRANSITION DOWN. ONE OF THE REAL
GAPS. I BELIEVE IN THIS PROGRAM
OR IN THE PROGRAM OFFERING OF
HIGHER EDUCATION IS REALLY THE
SAME. THAT IS THIS WHEN YOU TALK
ABOUT HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS OR
EVEN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL STUDENTS
TRANSITIONING OUT OF FACILITIES
. IS THIS IDEA OF THEM GOING
BACK ON THE CAMPUS OR BEING
INTRODUCED TO CAMPUS FOR THE
FIRST TIME AND FEELING WELCOMED
IN THAT SPACE? SO ONE OF THE
MOST IMPORTANT THINGS THAT THIS
PROGRAM DOES IS THIS ON THIS
AMBASSADORSHIP THAT IT HAS ON
THE COLLEGE CAMPUS. WHERE AN
INDIVIDUAL HAS SOMEBODY WHO SITS
THERE AND WORKS WITH THEM AND
HELPS TO KIND OF SHEPHERD THEM
THROUGH THIS EXPERIENCE OF BEING
ON CAMPUS AND SEEING WHAT IT
FEELS LIKE. AND SO IT'S REALLY I
THINK ONE OF THE REAL STRONG
PARTS OF WHAT WE DO THAT WAS
REALLY FUNDAMENTAL TO HOW WE
STARTED IN THE FIRST PLACE TO
GET THINGS GOING, UM, DOING THE
PANDEMIC. WE REALLY WERE ALREADY
POSITIONED WELL FOR ONLINE
LEARNING. WE HAD ALREADY DONE
THAT FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. WE
HAD A COMBINATION OF ONLINE
LEARNING IN PERSON PROFESSOR
SUPPORT FROM THE EARLY ONSET OF
OUR PROGRAM. OFTENTIMES THE
PROFESSORS ON CAMPUS WOULD
COMMENT THAT THEY DIDN'T BELIEVE
OUR KIDS ARE ACTUALLY IN CUSTODY
BECAUSE THEY WERE PERFORMING SO
WELL. THEY WERE ACTUALLY, YOU
KNOW, DOING BETTER, AND IT'S
CERTAINLY COURSE OPERATIONS THAN
SOME OF THE YOUNG PEOPLE THAT
WERE ON THE OUTS. AND SO WE
REALLY LOOKED AT THIS IS AN
OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE TO
EXPAND UPON THIS. AND SO WHEN
THE MONEY AND THE OPPORTUNITY
FOR THE RISE OF SCHOLARS CAME,
IT WAS REALLY, UH, WARM. WELCOME
TO OUR COLLECTIVE HEARTS IN
TERMS OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING.
UM, SO I THINK REALLY, OUR GOAL
IN PROBATION IS REALLY TO MAKE A
SPACE FOR THESE THINGS TO HAPPEN
IN OUR ENVIRONMENT, SO WE
SUPPORT IT AND HAVE SUPPORTED IT
FROM THE BEGINNING AND ALMOST
EVERY AVENUE. I WILL SAY,
THOUGH, THAT IT WAS INTERESTING
EARLIER TO HEAR THE CONVERSATION
ABOUT REHABILITATION AND HOW
IMPORTANT REHABILITATION IS SO
THIS PROCESS, BUT I LIKE TO
REMIND PEOPLE THAT
REHABILITATION PRE ASSUMES THAT
PEOPLE ARE IN A GOOD PLACE TO
BEGINNING AND ALL WE HAVE TO DO
IS DUST THEM OFF A LITTLE BIT,
PUT HIM ON A GOOD PATH AND THEN
BRING THEM BACK. I THINK THAT NO
PLACE IS THIS MORE A
CONTRADICTION IN THE IDEA OF
EDUCATION. BECAUSE MOST OF OUR
YOUNG PEOPLE COME TO US WITH
DEFICITS AND CHALLENGES TO BEGIN
WITH. SO I SEE PROBATION AND
COMMUNITY SUPPORTS MORE FROM AN
ABILITY TATER PERSPECTIVE THAN A
REHABILITATION WE ACTUALLY
HELPING TO BUILD NEW PATHWAYS
FOR YOUNG PEOPLE, AND THAT'S
WHERE PROJECT CHANGED US SO WELL
AND WE'RE JUST REALLY PROUD IS
THE PROBATION DEPARTMENT OF
CEMETERY TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT
THAT. REALLY QUICKLY BECAUSE I
WANT TO LEAVE ROOM FOR MY
COLLEAGUES TO SPEAK IN TERMS OF
JUST SOME OF THE GAPS AND
CHALLENGES THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE
TO SEE OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS. I
THINK A LOT OF IT IS JUST THE
BASIC LOGISTICS OF HAVING ACCESS
TO THE PROPER LEVEL OF INTERNET
SUPPORT YOU NEED BRINGING IN
HIGH SPEED INTERNET HAS BEEN
REALLY WAS A CHALLENGE REALLY,
TO BUILD IN THIS, YOU KNOW THIS
THIS BUILDING THAT WASN'T REALLY
CONFIGURED TO BE, YOU KNOW, HALF
HOLES AND THINGS DRILLED IN IT
FOR SUPPORTS FINDING THE PROPER
LEVEL OF TECHNOLOGY TO ACTUALLY
DO IT AND THAT SPACE TO GET PAST
SOME OF THE YOU KNOW THE GENUINE
CONCERNS THAT MAYBE SOME OF THE
STAFF MAY HAVE AROUND ACCESS AND
YOU KNOW PEOPLE DOING WALKIE
THINGS ON THE INTERNET WHEN YOU
HAVE ACCESS TO IT, AND, YOU
KNOW, KIND OF CHATS AND ALL OF
THAT THING. CHEN ACCOUNTING KIND
OF GETTING PAST THAT, BUT ALSO
SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY
IMPORTANT THAT I WANT TO
HIGHLIGHT IS THAT THE FLUIDITY
OF ENTRY INTO A JUVENILE
DETENTION CENTER DOES NOT MATCH
WELL WITH THE IDEA OF ACCOUNT OF
A COLLEGE KIND, OF COURSE
STRUCTURE. AND SO ONE OF THE
THINGS THAT I THINK IS REALLY
IMPORTANT FOR THIS COMMITTEE TO
CONSIDER IN TERMS OF EXPANSION,
IS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO
SUPPORT PROGRAMS THAT ALLOW FOR
THE FACT THAT YOU'RE NOT ALWAYS
GOING TO HAVE THESE LEARNERS
THROUGH A TRADITIONAL KIND OF
COLLEGE EXPERIENCE. AND SO FOR
OUR COLLEGE PEERS AND COLLEGE,
UM OUR COLLEAGUES PARTNERS IN
THIS PROCESS I WOULD LOVE TO SEE
SOMETHING THAT SUPPORTS THEIR
ABILITY TO NOT ONLY MAINTAIN
COLLEGE PROFESSORS WHO ARE
AVAILABLE TO SUPPORT THIS
PROGRAM, EVEN WHEN ENROLLMENT IS
LOW, AND EVEN WHEN ENROLLMENT IS
VERY FLUID. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO
SEE SOMETHING WHERE WHEN THOSE
YOUNG PEOPLE TRANSITION OUT
BECAUSE, AS I SAID, MY AVERAGE
STAY IS 32 DAYS IN THE MEAN OF
SIX THAT THEY STILL HAVE ACCESS
TO THAT PROGRAM. THEY STILL HAVE
ACCESS TO THOSE AMBASSADORS AND
THAT SUPPORT AND SO I THINK
THAT'S REALLY GOING TO BE A
FUNDAMENTAL PART OF HOW WE
CONSIDER HIGHER EDUCATION
THROUGHOUT THE STATE MOVING
FORWARD. AND LASTLY, JUST TO
HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE THINGS
THAT I THINK WE DO REALLY WELL,
WHICH I THINK ARE INNOVATIVE. IN
MY OPINION. I THINK THE
AMBASSADOR CONVERSATION IS
REALLY INNOVATIVE, AND I THINK
IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR
SUPPORT. THIS SPEAKS TO THE
ISSUE THAT WAS RAISED IN THE
LAST PANEL AROUND HIS IDEA OF
HELPING YOU TRANSITION BACK TO
CAMPUS. THAT IS VERY TRUE. ALSO
AT THE HIGHER LEVEL AS WELL. YOU
YOUNG PEOPLE NEED PEOPLE ON
CAMPUS TO HELP SUPPORT THEM SO
THEY CAN FEEL WELCOMED AND
WANTED IN A PART OF THAT
PROCESS, BECAUSE, FRANKLY, YOUTH
IN DETENTION SPACES WHEN THEY
TRANSITION BACK OUT TO THE
PLACES OF EDUCATION, THEY
OFTENTIMES ARE NOT TREATED AS IF
THEY WANTED THERE. AND I THINK
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T
TALK ABOUT ENOUGH. LASTLY OKAY,
INSTANTANEOUSLY. WE'RE VERY
PROUD OF THE INTEGRATION OF THE
PRISON EDUCATION PROGRAM THAT
THAT IS ALSO WORKING IN THE
STATE. RIGHT NOW. WE LOVE THE
CONNECTION THAT WE'RE DOING WITH
THAT. WE'RE LOOKING TO EXPAND
MORE ACCESS TO MORE TECHNOLOGY
THROUGHOUT THE FACILITY, ADDING
EVEN HIGHER SPEED ACCESS
THROUGHOUT THE PROGRAM AND TO A
POINT THAT WAS MENTIONED
EARLIER. UM NOT AT OUR PROGRAM
IS HAS SHRANK AS MUCH AS IT HAS.
WE HAVE HAD TO REIMAGINE OUR
VOCATIONAL TRAINING PROGRAM. WE
USED TO RUN A CAMP SEVERAL YEARS
AGO THAT ACTUALLY HAD A FULL
FLEDGED VOCATIONAL TRAINING
PROGRAM WHERE WE DID HABITAT FOR
HUMANITY TRAINING. WHAT WE DID
CONSTRUCTION WORK. WE DID OUR
FOOD PREP WORK AND THINGS OF
THAT NATURE WHERE YOUNG PEOPLE
WERE ABLE TO GET CERTIFICATES
THAT THEY COULD TAKE. OUT AND
ACTUALLY START THE WORK PROCESS.
WE'VE HAD TO SHUTTER SOME OF
THAT, BECAUSE THAT'S THAT
POPULATION DECREASED SO MUCH SO
NOW WE'RE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT HOW
TO RE ENVISION THAT INSIDE OF
OUR FACILITY, AND SO WE HAVE A
COUPLE OF PROGRAMS RIGHT NOW
THAT WE ARE VERY PROUD THAT ARE
GETTING READY TO START THAT WILL
ACTUALLY GO BACK TO SOME OF
THOSE TRADES THAT WE WERE
TEACHING BEFORE, AND SO I THINK
THOSE COMBINATIONS OF THINGS
ADDED TO THE WORK. THAT PROJECT
CHANGED US SO WELL IS GOING TO
OFFER. I THINK AN ONGOING
SUPPORT FOR NOT ONLY WHAT WE DO
WITH OUR YOUNG PEOPLE TODAY AND
ARE YOUNGER. ADULTS. IN THE
SERVICE TODAY, BUT ALSO IN THE
FUTURE. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
AND I LOOK FORWARD TO ANSWERING
QUESTIONS AT THE APPROPRIATE
TIME. THANK YOU, AND I THINK WE
WANT TO KEEP EVERYONE'S REMARKS
TO ABOUT FIVE MINUTES. I REALLY
APPRECIATE THAT. WE'LL MOVE
FORWARD WITH KELLY KNEEDLER HIGH
CHAIRS AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD EVENING.
I'M KELLY NADLER. I WORK WITH
THE CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY COLLEGE
CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE AND ONE OF
THREE REGIONAL RISING SCHOLARS
LEADS AND I'VE REALLY TAKEN THE
LEAD ON OUR YOUTH JUSTICE
PROGRAM. THERE'S A HAND OUT HERE
THAT I'LL LOOSELY WALK US
THROUGH AND THEN I'LL EXPAND ON
SOME OTHER PARTS. SO FOR THOSE
WHO DON'T KNOW, RISING SCHOLARS
IS A COLLECTION OF COMMUNITY
COLLEGES WHO SERVE INCARCERATED
AND FORMERLY INCARCERATED
STUDENTS. UH THANKS IN LARGE
PART TO ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S MEMBER,
MCCARTY. WE NOW FUND 80 OF 116
COMMUNITY COLLEGES TO DO THIS
WORK, WHICH IS WHICH IS HUGE. IN
THE LAST YEAR ABOUT WE SERVE
ABOUT 16,000 STUDENTS PER
SEMESTER AND WE SEE THAT
CONTINUE TO GROW. THE TRAJECTORY
IS THAT WE GOT ALL OF THE
FUNDING IN ORDER TO SERVE ARE
INCARCERATED AND FORMERLY
INCARCERATED STUDENTS AND WHAT
WE DISCOVERED. IS THAT OUR YOUNG
FOLKS WHO WERE JUVENILE JUSTICE
IMPACTED WERE BEING LEFT BEHIND.
IT IS AN EXPENSIVE FEET FOR OUR
COLLEGES TO SERVE IN JUVENILE
HALLS, CAMPS AND SECURE YOUR
TREATMENT FACILITIES, MOSTLY
BECAUSE THOSE ARE EXTREMELY
SMALL CLASS SIZES AND THE WAY
OUR SYSTEM FUNDS COURSES MEANS
THAT WE HAVE A MINIMUM NUMBER OF
STUDENTS PER CLASS IN ORDER TO
MAKE IT FINANCIALLY VIABLE FOR
THE COLLEGE. BECAUSE OF THIS, WE
WORKED WITH THE YOUTH, LAWCENTER
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S TING AND MANY
OF THE FOLKS ON THIS JOINT
COMMITTEE TO OBTAIN THAT $15
MILLION IN ONGOING FUNDS TO
EXPAND RISING SCHOLARS OFFERINGS
SPECIFICALLY TO SERVE JUVENILE
JUSTICE IMPACTED YOUTH. THE $15
MILLION MAKES US THE FIRST STATE
IN THE NATION TO DEDICATE HIGHER
EDUCATION DOLLARS SPECIFICALLY
FOR THIS POPULATION, AND WE'RE
REALLY HONORED TO TAKE ON THIS
CHARGE. SO ESSENTIALLY WILL BE
DIVIDING THOSE FUNDS BETWEEN UP
TO 45 OF OUR COMMUNITY COLLEGES
. IT'S A THREE PRONGED APPROACH
APPROACH FOR THE COMMUNITY
COLLEGES WHERE THERE WILL BE
COURSES OFFERED IN DETENTION.
THERE IS AN IN PERSON
REQUIREMENTS SO EACH COLLEGE IS
REQUIRED TO OFFER AT LEAST ONE
COURSE PER SEMESTER IN PERSON AT
THE FACILITY. THERE IS ALSO THE
TRANSITIONAL SUPPORT PIECE SO
THE COLLEGE WILL HIRE SOMEONE
FULL TIME WITH THESE FUNDS. WHO
WOULD THERE IT IS THEIR
RESPONSIBILITY TO HELP
TRANSITION STUDENTS WHEN THEY
HAVE MOVEMENT. WHEN WE TALK
ABOUT STUDENT TRANSITIONS, WE
OFTEN THINK ABOUT TRANSITIONING
FROM DETENTION BACK TO THE
COMMUNITY OR THE CAMPUS. BUT
WE'RE ALSO HERE THINKING ABOUT
STUDENTS WHO ARE STEPPED DOWN
FOR THEIR INVOLVEMENT IN COLLEGE
, SO IT'S SORT OF STUDENTS
STARTS WITH A COLLEGE AND A
SECURITY TREATMENT FACILITY AND
GET STEPPED DOWN TO A HALL. WE
WANT THE COLLEGE TO PROVIDE A
CONTINUITY OF ACCESS TO HIGHER
EDUCATION. IF A STUDENT STARTS
IN A JUVENILE HALL, AND THEY ARE
SERVED BY A PARTICULAR COMMUNITY
COLLEGE DISTRICT AND THEN
THEY'RE STEPPED DOWN TO A CAMP
AND THAT CAMPUS SERVED BY
ANOTHER COMMUNITY COLLEGE
DISTRICT. IT'S THE COLLEGES
RESPONSIBILITY AND THAT FULL
TIME EMPLOYEES RESPONSIBILITY TO
WORK WITH THE ADDITIONAL CAMPUS
TO ENSURE CONTINUITY OF ACCESS
TO HIGHER EDUCATION. WE PILOTED
SOME CROSS DISTRICT MOU S ON THE
ADULT SIDE WITH OUR JAILS, AND
I'M PUSHING OUR COLLEGES TO SIGN
THOSE ON THE YOUTH SIDE AS WELL.
SO THOSE ARE THE FIRST TWO
PRONGS OF THIS THREE PRONGED
APPROACH. THERE'S THE IN
DETENTION, EDUCATION, THE
TRANSITIONAL SUPPORT. AND THEN
THERE IS THE ON CAMPUS SUPPORT
PEACE WHERE STUDENTS ARE
REQUIRED TO HAVE A DESIGNATED
SPACE ON CAMPUS TO HAVE PEER
SUPPORT NETWORKS TO HAVE A CLUB
TO HAVE ACCESS TO BASIC NEEDS
CENTERS AND TO HAVE ACCESS TO
HOPEFULLY PAID PEER MENTORSHIP
ROLES WHERE THEY CAN ACTUALLY
HELP THOSE WHO ARE A FEW YEARS
BEHIND THEM. WE'RE HOPING THAT
THIS INITIATIVE WILL PROMOTE NEW
MODELS LIKE ALTERNATIVE
SENTENCING, STEPPED DOWN FOR
PARTICIPATION IN COLLEGE AND
REALLY HELPED COUNTIES REIMAGINE
THE WAY THAT THEY LEVERAGE
ACCESS TO HIGHER EDUCATION TO,
UH, DECREASE THEIR RELIANCE ON
OUR JUVENILE DETENTION CENTERS.
WE WILL BE COLLECTING STUDENT
CENTERED DATA WITH THIS
INITIATIVE. UM, I CREATED A M I
S CODE. FOR OUR PUBLIC FACING
DATA MARTS SPECIFICALLY FOR THE
STUDENTS WHERE WHEN A COLLEGE
GOES IN, IF THEY ARE AWARDED A
GRANT, THEY WILL BE REQUIRED TO
GO IN AND TELL US WHICH LOCATION
THE STUDENT IS BEING SERVED IN,
SO WE HAVE SECURITY TREATMENT
FACILITIES, JUVENILE HALLS,
CAMPS IN THE COMMUNITY AT
ALTERNATIVE, OR, UM COMMUNITY
SCHOOLS AND THEN ALSO ON OUR
COLLEGE CAMPUS. AND SO WHAT WILL
BE ABLE TO SHOW YOU RIGHT IS
WHERE ARE OUR STUDENTS
SUCCEEDING. OUR STUDENTS IN
SECURITY TREATMENT FACILITIES
BECAUSE THEY HAVE LONGER STAYS
SUCCEEDING. ARE THEY RETAINING
FROM SEMESTER SYSTEM? ESTHER AND
WHERE WE'RE STRUGGLING RIGHT?
LIKE UH, SO IN ADDITION TO THAT
DATA ELEMENT, WE ALSO WITHHELD
$750,000 FROM THE FIRST YEAR OF
THE FUNDING, AS WAS WRITTEN IN
THE BUDGET BILL LANGUAGE IN
ORDER TO HIRE A RESEARCH FIRM TO
DO A FIVE YEAR RESEARCH STUDY
THAT LOOKS AT ELEMENTS LIKE
RECIDIVISM LIKE EMPLOYMENT.
BASEMENT AND OTHER DETAILS. SO
THAT REALLY CALIFORNIA CAN LOOK
AT THIS INITIATIVE AND SAY.
HERE'S WHERE WE'RE SUCCEEDING,
AND HERE'S WHERE WE NEED TO FILL
IN SOME OF THE GAPS AND THE HOPE
REALLY, IS THAT WE BECOME A
NATIONAL MODEL AND THAT OTHER
STATES CAN INCREASE THEIR
RELIANCE ON ACCESS TO HIGHER
EDUCATION. AND DECREASE THEIR
RELIANCE ON JUVENILE JUSTICE,
DETAINEE. IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE
THAT UNDER THIS INITIATIVE, THE
DEFINITION OF A JUVENILE JUSTICE
IMPACTED YOUTH IS VERY BROAD. UM
I FOUGHT PRETTY HARD TO MEAN IT
TO MAKE IT SO THAT OUR COLLEGES
CAN SERVE YOUTH WHO HAVE BEEN
ARRESTED, DETAINED OR EVEN
REFERRED TO PROBATION. WE KNOW
THAT ABOUT 40,000 YOUNG PEOPLE
IN CALIFORNIA WERE REFERRED TO
PROBATION IN THE LAST COUPLE OF
YEARS. AND SO THAT MEANS THAT
OUR COLLEGES CAN BE REACHING
INTO OUR COMMUNITY SCHOOLS ARE
ALTERNATIVE HIGH SCHOOL
DISTRICTS AND PROVIDING DUAL
ENROLLMENT OPPORTUNITIES TO
BUILD PATHWAYS FROM THOSE
ENVIRONMENTS TO THE COLLEGES. SO
THAT NOT ONLY ARE WE REACHING
THESE YOUNG PEOPLE ONCE THEY'RE
ALREADY IN TROUBLE. RIGHT BUT
WE'RE HELPING REACH THEM BEFORE
THEY POTENTIALLY CONTINUE ON A
PATHWAY TO THE YOUTH SYSTEM OR
TO THE ADULT SYSTEM. I'VE LISTED
OUT THE TIMELINE. WE JUST
RELEASED OUR OUR FAA, SO THE
REQUEST FOR APPLICATIONS IS OUT
. WE WILL BE ANNOUNCING THE
GRANTEES AT OUR JULY BOARD OF
GOVERNOR MEETING AND THEN OUR
COLLEGES WILL RECEIVE THE FUNDS
, PROBABLY SEPTEMBER OCTOBER OF
THIS YEAR. IF A COLLEGE IS WELL
ESTABLISHED, LIKE OUR SAN MATEO
COLLEGE IS THEY WILL HIT THE
GROUND RUNNING EXPAND. IF THEY
NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME.
WE'LL HAVE IMPLEMENTATION PLANS.
SO THAT FOLKS WILL HAVE SIX
MONTHS IN A YEAR A YEAR AND A
HALF TO IMPLEMENT SOME OF THE
PROGRAM MODELS IN ORDER TO GET
THINGS FULLY OPERATIONAL. THIS
IS A COLLABORATION, REALLY? NOT
JUST FOR THE COMMUNITY COLLEGES
AND THE PROBATION DEPARTMENTS,
BUT ALSO THE COUNTY OFFICES OF
EDUCATION, AND ANY COLLEGE HE
WAS APPLYING IS GOING TO SUBMIT
A LETTER OF COMMITMENT FROM
SIGNED BY THE COUNTY OFFICE OF
EDUCATION AND THE JUVENILE
PROBATION DEPARTMENT SO THAT ALL
ENTITIES CAN BE ON THE SAME PAGE
ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE SIGNING UP
FOR. I HAVE ONE LAST COMMENT,
WHICH IS JUST THAT, UH, ON THIS.
SECOND TO LAST PAGE. THERE'S A
REQUEST I SUBMITTED THIS WITH
MARK MARTIN. BUT THERE ARE
THERE'S BUDGET LANGUAGE. WE HAVE
$3 MILLION TO REIMBURSE COLLEGES
FOR THE TEXTBOOK COSTS AND RIGHT
NOW THAT LANGUAGES, UM SAYS THAT
WE CAN REIMBURSE COLLEGES FOR
THE TEXTBOOK COSTS OF STUDENTS
WHO ARE INSIDE CDCR. WE DO NOT
NEED THE FULL THREE MILLION FOR
THAT REIMBURSEMENT PROCESS, AND
I'M ASKING THAT THAT LANGUAGE BE
ADJUSTED. TO INCLUDE JUVENILE
DETENTION FACILITIES AND COUNTY
JAILS SO THAT WE MAY REIMBURSE
COLLEGES FOR THOSE COSTS SO THAT
THE ABOUT $300,000 PER YEAR FOR
COLLEGE DOES NOT GET RUN DOWN BY
PAYING FOR TEXTBOOKS.
ESSENTIALLY, SO THANK YOU FOR
YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. WE'LL MOVE
ON TO MR GARY. GOOD EVENING. I
AM DR MARICOPA, SEAN MCGARY. I'M
THE DEAN OF THE PRISON AND
REENTRY EDUCATION PROGRAM FOR
LOS RIOS COMMUNITY COLLEGE
DISTRICT HERE IN SACRAMENTO
COUNTY. THE DISTRICT HAS FOUR
COLLEGES. AMERICAN RIVER COLLEGE
CONSUME THIS RIVER FOLSOM LAKE
IN SACRAMENTO CITY COLLEGE. AND
REALLY, MY PURPOSE IN BEING HERE
TODAY IS TO BRING THIS HOME SO
20 MINUTES. FROM WHERE WE ARE
SEATED IS KIEFER BOULEVARD AND
WHAT IS ON KEEPER BOULEVARD. THE
YOUTH DETENTION FACILITY. THAT
FACILITY ON AVERAGE HAS 900 UN
DUPLICATED YOUTH CYCLE THROUGH
THE FACILITY EACH YEAR. WE'RE
ANTICIPATING 50 TO 70, D. J. J
STUDENTS ARRIVING ON JUNE JULY
1ST OF THIS YEAR. UM THE OPENING
REMARKS TO THIS HEARING
CONSISTED OF TERMS LIKE
VARIANTS. DISRUPTION MYRIAD OF
ISSUES, ENTANGLEMENT,
INCARCERATED SYSTEMS. AND THAT
REALITY IS NOT HAPPENING FAR
FROM HERE. IT'S IN OUR BACKYARD
IN SACRAMENTO COUNTY, WE HOST
Tð. LEVEL FOUR, THE HIGHEST
LEVEL STATE PRISONS. WE HAVE
SEVERAL COUNTY JAIL FACILITIES
AND THE YOUTH DETENTION
FACILITY. THE TWO STATE PRISONS
AND THE PRISON INDUSTRY
AUTHORITY ARE 4.4 MILES AWAY
FROM FOLSOM LAKE COLLEGE. IT'S
IN OUR BACKYARD. THEY SHOP AT
THE SAME STORES WHEN THEY RETURN
HOME. THEIR CHILDREN GO TO THE
SAME SCHOOLS. IT'S REALLY
SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS IN THE
COMMUNITY, AND THUS IT IS. THE
COMMUNITY COLLEGES OBLIGATION TO
SERVE THEM IN AN EQUITABLE AND
HIGH QUALITY MANNER. LOS RIOS
COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT TRULY
BELIEVES THAT EDUCATION BELONGS
TO EVERYONE. WHEN WE BEGAN OUR
FEET WITH INCARCERATED STUDENTS
, UM AT THE STABLE PRISON LEVEL
IN 2016. THE EMPHASIS WAS REALLY
ON CAREER EDUCATION, BUT NOT
JUST YOUR EDUCATION SO THAT
STUDENTS COULD EXIT THOSE
FACILITIES AND SWING A HAMMER OR
WORK AT A RESTAURANT. THE GOAL
WAS THAT THEY WOULD EXIT THOSE
FACILITIES RETURNED TO THE
COMMUNITY AND CAMPUS AND MANAGED
THE CONSTRUCTION SITE. MANAGE
YOUR OWN THE RESTAURANT ENSURE
THAT THEY COULD EARN A LIVABLE
WAGE AND ADVANCE THE WORKFORCE
WITH THEIR TRANSFERABLE UNITS,
CERTIFICATES AND DEGREES. IN
2018, AND WE BEGIN WITH THE
YOUTH DETENTION FACILITY. WE USE
THE SAME LABOR MARKET DATA TO
INFORM OUR DEGREE OFFERINGS AND
OUR COURSE SCHEDULED BECAUSE
IT'S REALLY NOT USEFUL TO SAY
GREAT. YOU'RE GOING TO GRADUATE
IN 4 TO 6 YEARS WITH A DEGREE IN
SOCIOLOGY WITHOUT ANY JOBS
WAITING FOR YOU WITHOUT A CLEAR
PATHWAY THROUGH HIGHER EDUCATION
AND INTO THE WORKFORCE. SO WE'VE
USED THE LABOR MARKET DATA AND
ALIGN THAT WITH THE C SUS TO
ENSURE THAT OUR STUDENTS HAVE A
LONG TERM TRANSITION PLAN. WHAT
WE NEED TO ENSURE IS THAT IN
THIS LEVEL OF FACILITY WE HAVE
OPEN ACCESS OPEN ENTRY. OPEN
EXIT. AND REENTRY. OF COURSE
OPPORTUNITIES SO THAT STUDENTS
AREN'T PENALIZED ON THE END WHEN
THEY HAVE TO EXIT FOR COURT.
WHEN THEY TRANSITION IN AND OUT
WHEN THEIR LENGTH OF STAY
CHANGES UNEXPECTEDLY. WE WANT TO
ENSURE THAT WE'RE OFFERING
PROGRAM PATHWAYS THAT ALLOW
STUDENTS TO ENTER, COMPLETE,
PERSIST AND CONTINUE THEIR
EDUCATIONAL GOALS, REGARDLESS OF
WHAT LEVEL OF FACILITY OR HOW
LONG THEY HAVE IN THAT LOCATION.
MANY OF OUR STUDENTS IN ALL OF
THE FACILITIES WILL TELL YOU
THAT IT'S NOT REASONABLE TO CALL
THIS REENTRY OR REHABILITATION
BECAUSE THEY'VE NEVER DONE IT
BEFORE IN THIS MANNER. WE'VE
NEVER HAD THIS MANY SYSTEMS
COLLABORATE AND COME TOGETHER TO
ENSURE THAT THEIR LIFE COURSE
TRAJECTORY WAS APPROPRIATELY
SUPPORTED WITH THE SAME LEVEL OF
QUALITY THAT WE PROVIDE ON A
COLLEGE CAMPUS. IN LOS RIOS WERE
COMMITTED TO ACCOMMODATING A
STUDENTS ACCESS AND PATHWAY
THROUGH YOUTH DETENTION
FACILITY, NOT MODIFYING THE
STANDARD. WE HAVE THAT STANDARD
OF EDUCATION AND SPECIAL
EDUCATION AND AS A DISTRICT
WE'RE COMMITTED TO DOING THE
SAME. SO IN SOME WAYS WE'RE
EXPERIENCING THE ACADEMIC MAYBE
109 REALITY WHERE IN 2011 COUNTY
JAILS WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT
HOW TO CREATE DENTAL SUITES AND
FACILITY BECAUSE THE LENGTH OF
STAY REQUIRED MORE MEDICAL
SUPPORT. UM WE'RE NOW TRYING TO
CREATE BIOLOGY LABS AND ART
STUDIOS IN CORRECTIONAL
FACILITIES FOR YOUTH THAT
OTHERWISE WOULDN'T HAVE ACCESS
TO THOSE VERY SAME COURSES. THEY
COULD WALK ONTO CAMPUS AND
ENROLL IN TODAY. MANY MEDICAL
METAPHORS HAVE BEEN USED TODAY
AND REALLY, IT'S THE CONTINUITY
OF CARE OR SUPPORT THAT WERE
COMMITTED TO OUR RETURN OF
INVESTMENT IS VERY, VERY HIGH,
ENDLESS. RIOS WE KNOW THAT FOR
EVERY THREE UNIT COURSE A
STUDENT COMPLETES IN A SEMESTER
WE SAVE OUR LOCAL COMMUNITY OVER
$4600. WITH OVER 1200
ENROLLMENTS PER SEMESTER. WE'RE
LOOKING AT $4.6 MILLION IN
SAVINGS. BECAUSE STUDENTS DO NOT
RECITED EIGHT AS FREQUENTLY THAT
COME OUT WITH A COLLEGE DEGREE
OR A COMMUNITY COLLEGE NETWORK
TO RELY ON AS THEY RETURN TO
CAMPUS AND ENTER INTO THE
WORKFORCE. OUR FACULTY ATTEST TO
CREATING LONG AND WIDE BRIDGES
ACROSS SYSTEMS THAT REALLY ARE
OVERLAPPING ON A DAILY BASIS IN
A CORRECTIONAL FACILITY BASED
CLASSROOM WHERE WORKING WITH
ENTITLED 15 ED CODE FERPA MANY
HIGHLY SETS OF BUREAUCRATIC
REGULATIONS THAT REALLY MEAN WE
HAVE TO GET CREATIVE AND
ENSURING STUDENTS HAVE ACCESS TO
THE SAME COLLEGE EXPERIENCE THAT
THEY WOULD ON A COLLEGE CAMPUS.
WE HAVE VERY, VERY HIGH LEVELS
OF PERSISTENCE AND COMPLETION
RATES IN LOS RIOS WITHIN ALMOST
80% SUCCESS RATE, WHICH OUT
COMPETES ALL OF OUR ON CAMPUS
RATES. ACCORDING TO CDC ARE
INDIVIDUALS WHO COMPLETE COLLEGE
COURSES WHILE IN FACILITY AT THE
ADULT LEVEL, HAVE A 1.9%
RECIDIVISM RATE. WE KNOW IN THIS
REGION WE HAVE AROUND A 60%
RECIDIVISM RATE. BUT WE ATTEST
THAT REALLY THIS COMES FROM A
STUDENT EXPERIENCE THAT BEGAN
LONG LONG BEFORE THEIR CAR.
SURREAL TIME. MANY OF OUR
STUDENTS SHARE WITH US THAT THEY
WERE BORN IN CALIFORNIA
CORRECTIONAL FACILITIES, AND SO
BY THE TIME THEY ENTER INTO A
COLLEGE COURSE THEY'RE ASKING
QUESTIONS. LIKE WHO COULD WE
BECOME? WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF
EDUCATORS ARE EMPOWERED TO MEET
THE ACADEMIC AS WELL AS THE
SOCIAL AND EMOTIONAL NEEDS OF
STUDENTS BY IMPLEMENTING EARLY
PREVENTION STRATEGIES,
CULTURALLY RESPONSIVE PEDAGOGY
AND RESTORATIVE JUSTICE
PRACTICES. THIS IS REALLY THE
COMMITMENT AND THE MISSION OF
LOS RIOS COMMUNITY COLLEGE
DISTRICT AND COMMUNITY COLLEGES
THROUGHOUT THE STATE. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. WE WILL
MOVE ON TO MR HEINER. DR
AFTERNOON CHAIRS BANTA AND
MCCARTHY. HONORABLE MEMBERS OF
THE SUBCOMMITTEE'S MY NAME IS DR
BRADY HINER. I'M A PROFESSOR OF
PHILOSOPHY AND THE INTERIM
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE CSU
PROJECT REBOUND CONSORTIUM. I'M
ALSO A MEMBER OF THE HIGHER
EDUCATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR
THE OPPOSITE OF YOUTH AND
COMMUNITY RESTORATION. PROJECT
REBOUND CONSORTIUM IS A NETWORK
OF PROGRAMS AT 15 CSU CAMPUSES
ACROSS THE STATE THAT SUPPORTS
THE HIGHER EDUCATION AND
SUCCESSFUL REINTEGRATION OF
FORMERLY INCARCERATED STUDENTS.
TWO THIRDS OF WHOM COME FROM
HISTORICALLY UNDERSERVED
BACKGROUNDS. ONLY 5% OF THE 830
STUDENTS CURRENTLY ENROLLED IN
OUR PROGRAMS ARE UNDER THE AGE
OF 25. MOST ARE ADULTS SEEKING
THE TRANSFORMATIVE POWER OF
HIGHER EDUCATION AFTER SERVING
YOUR HAVING SERVED YEARS IN
STATE PRISON. HOWEVER 36% OF
PROJECT REBOUND STUDENTS HAVE
PRIOR JUVENILE JUSTICE SYSTEM
INVOLVEMENT, AS DO MANY PROJECT
REBOUND STAFF AND SO MANY PEOPLE
IN THE PROJECT REBOUND COMMUNITY
HAVE STRONG MOTIVATION AND
APTITUDE TO SERVE AS CREDIBLE
MENTORS FOR SYSTEM INVOLVED.
YOUTHS. SO THROUGH GRANTS FROM
THE DEPARTMENT OF JUVENILE
JUSTICE IN 2020 AND THE
CALIFORNIA WELLNESS FOUNDATION
IN 2021 PROJECT REBOUND HAS
PILOTED PROGRAMS TO BUILD
POSTSECONDARY EDUCATIONAL
PATHWAYS FOR JUVENILE JUSTICE
SYSTEM INVOLVED YOUTHS AT EIGHT
CSU CAMPUSES AT HUMBOLDT,
FRESNO, FULLERTON, POMONA.
SACRAMENTO SAN BERNARDINO, SAN
FRANCISCO AND SAN MARCOS. THESE
PROGRAMS OPERATE AT TWO D. J. J
FACILITIES. THREE CDCR YOUTH
OFFENDER PROGRAMS, SIX COUNTY
JUVENILE CORRECTIONAL FACILITIES
, ONE JUVENILE COURT AND
COMMUNITY SCHOOL AND TWO
CONTINUATION HIGH SCHOOLS. ALL
OF THE PROGRAMS LEVERAGE THE
POWER OF THE LIVED EXPERIENCES
OF FORMERLY INCARCERATED
UNIVERSITY STAFF AND STUDENTS
ALL PROVIDE CREDIBLE MENTORSHIP
AND PERSONALIZED ACADEMIC
ADVISING, DESIGNED TO CREATE
SUPPORTIVE PIPELINES TO HELP
YOUTHS PURSUE HIGHER EDUCATION
POST RELEASE. ALL INTRODUCED
SYSTEM INVOLVED USED TO COLLEGE
TO INSTRUCTION ON ADMISSIONS,
FINANCIAL AID, ACADEMIC DEGREE
PROGRAMS, UNIVERSITY CAMPUS LIFE
RESOURCES AND SYSTEM, NAVIGATION
AND ALL FOSTER THE FOUNDATIONAL
KNOWLEDGE SKILLS AND ATTITUDES
NECESSARY FOR COLLEGE SUCCESS
AND LIFELONG LEARNING. MOST
PROJECT REBOUND. YOUTH
ENGAGEMENT PROGRAMS CURRENTLY
PROVIDE NON CREDIT COURSE
MODULES OR CERTIFICATE PROGRAMS
, WHICH IN ADDITION TO COLLEGE
PREPARATORY CURRICULA ALSO
INCLUDE TOPICS SUCH AS CREATIVE
WRITING INTRO TO SOCIOLOGY,
ETHNIC STUDIES, CONFLICT
RESOLUTION AND RESTORATIVE
JUSTICE. FRESNO STATE'S IN
PERSON MENTORSHIP PROGRAM
OPERATES IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE
DUAL ENROLLMENT PROGRAM,
PROVIDED BY FRESNO CITY COLLEGE
IS RISING SCHOLARS PROGRAM.
SACRAMENTO STATE HAS TAKEN THE
CSU PROJECT REBOUND OUTREACH
PROGRAM, A ROBUST WORKSHOP BASED
PRE COLLEGE ORIENTATION AND
CERTIFICATE PROGRAM CONSISTING
OF 8 90 MINUTES WORKSHOPS THAT
HAS BEEN SUCCESSFULLY OFFERED TO
500 ADULTS INSIDE CDCR AND
ADAPTED IT TO THE SPECIFIC NEEDS
OF YOUTHS IN CDCR S YOUTH
OFFENDER PROGRAMS. SAN FRANCISCO
STATES COLLEGE OF ETHNIC STUDIES
IN COLLABORATION WITH PROJECT
REBOUND PROVIDES A 12 UNIT
CERTIFICATE PROGRAM FOR 33
YOUTHS INSIDE OF D. J J THAT
CONSISTS OF FOUR ONLINE COURSES
AND ETHNIC STUDIES TAUGHT BY SAN
FRANCISCO STATE FACULTY USING
SYNCHRONOUS VIDEOCONFERENCING
THAT FULFILL LOWER DIVISION
GENERAL EDUCATION REQUIREMENTS
AT ANY CSU. CAL STATE
FULLERTON'S DARE TO DREAM
PROGRAM AND EIGHT WEEKS
CERTIFICATE PROGRAM THAT HAS
BEEN OFFERED TO 48 INCARCERATED
YOUTHS IN ORANGE COUNTY SINCE
LAST FALL, BRINGS INCARCERATED
YOUTH PARTICIPANTS TO VISIT THE
UNIVERSITY CAMPUS AND JOIN
UNIVERSITY STUDENTS AND
CLASSROOM DISCUSSION. YOU SHOULD
ALSO VISIT PROJECT. REBOUNDS
JOHN IRWIN HOUSE, THE FIRST
TRANSFORMATIVE HOUSING
INITIATIVE FOR FORMERLY
INCARCERATED UNIVERSITY STUDENTS
IN THE NATION AND ARE EQUIPPED
WITH COLLEGE START UP KITS FROM
THE UNIVERSITY BOOKSTORE THIS
SUMMER, FULLERTON WILL LAUNCH
ITS REBOUND ACADEMY, A POST
RELEASE TRANSITIONAL COLLEGE
EXPERIENCE FOR SYSTEM INVOLVED
YOUTHS LOOSELY MODELED ON THE
EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITY
PROGRAMS, HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL
SUMMER BRIDGE PROGRAM. IN
CLOSING. I WISH TO ISSUE A
STRONG CAUTIONARY NOTE. IF
THERE'S ONE THING THAT WE'VE
LEARNED THROUGH PROJECT REBOUNDS
, PILOT EFFORTS, IT'S THAT YOUTH
DESERVE AND BENEFIT MOST FROM A
CONTINUUM OF CARE, CHARACTERIZED
BY CONSISTENT INTERPERSONAL
PROXIMITY, PRESENCE AND
COMMUNITY WITH CREDIBLE MENTORS.
FROM INCARCERATION TO
MATRICULATION AND GRADUATION
UNDER THE SEDUCTIVE AUSPICES OF
ACCESS AND STUDENT CHOICE. AND
UNDER THE TRIAGE PRESSURES OF
THE IMPENDING CLOSURE OF D. J. J
WE ARE ALREADY SEEING A STRONG
STATEWIDE MOMENTUM TOWARD REMOTE
UM, PACKET BASED OR ASYNCHRONOUS
ONLINE MODALITIES OF COLLEGE
INSTRUCTION AND ENGAGEMENT. IT'S
TRUE THAT IT'S TABLET OR LAPTOP
CAN FUNCTION AS A PORTAL TO A
STATE WIDE ARRAY OF ONLINE
ACADEMIC PROGRAMS AND COURSE
OFFERINGS THAT YOUTHS COULD
POTENTIALLY CONTINUE WITHOUT
INTERRUPTION. POST RELEASE. IT'S
ALSO TRUE THAT ONLINE COLLEGES
MUST LET MUCH LESS RESOURCE
INTENSIVE. THEN IN PERSON
COLLEGE PROGRAMMING. HOWEVER
CALIFORNIA'S GOAL FOR YOUTHS
SHOULD NOT BE JUST COLLEGE
CREDIT BUT PERSONAL
TRANSFORMATION, SUCCESSFUL
SOCIAL INTEGRATION AND COLLEGE
PERSISTENCE AND GRADUATION. AND
THAT REQUIRES BALANCING THE
VALUES OF ACCESS AND STUDENT
CURRICULAR CHOICE WITH THE
SOMETIMES COMPETING VALUES OF
EDUCATIONAL QUALITY AND LIFE
AFFIRMING SOCIALIZATION EMBODIED
IN IN PERSON PROGRAMS THAT OFFER
COMMUNITIES OF BELONGING THROUGH
REAL TIME MENTORSHIP AND PERIOD
APPEAR INTERACTION. THANK YOU
HAPPY TO DISCUSS FURTHER OR
ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS MEMBERS
MAY HAVE THANK YOU AND WE'LL
MOVE TO OUR LAST PENALTIES.
EDGAR SAGAS. AFTERNOON HONORABLE
CHAIRS OF THE ASSEMBLY. BUDGETS
OF COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION,
FINANCE AND ASSEMBLY, BUDGETS OF
COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC SAFETY AND
ESTEEMED MEMBER COMMITTEE
MEMBERS. THANK YOU FOR HOSTING
THIS INFORMATION ON HEARING ON K
TO 12 AND HIGHER EDUCATION IN
COUNTY JUVENILE FACILITIES. MY
NAME IS EDGAR VIEGAS 20 YEARS
OLD AND I LIVE IN ORANGE COUNTY
. I'M A FORMER INCARCERATED USE
, RECENTLY RELIEVED, RELIEVED
RECENTLY RELEASED FROM A
JUVENILE FACILITY IN SANTA ANA.
MORE IMPORTANTLY, I WORKED AT
CALIFORNIA STATE UNIVERSITY
FULLERTON PROJECT REBOUNDS THERE
TO DREAM YOUTH MENTOR AND THIS
FALL I WILL BE STARTING MY
FRESHMAN YEAR AT CSU F AS WELL.
I'M HERE TODAY TO SHARE MY
EXPERIENCES WILL NEVER GET IN
LIFE AT THE INTERSECTION OF THE
EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM AND
CRIMINALIZATION BEFORE, DURING
AND SINCE MY RELEASE EARLIER
THIS YEAR ON JANUARY 13 2023
PRIOR TO MY INCARCERATION SCHOOL
WAS NOT A SAFE AND WELCOME. IT
WAS NOT A SAFE AND WELCOMING
SPACE. I STRUGGLED WITH SCHOOL
FOR SEVERAL REASONS, VIOLENCE,
LACK OF A CARING COMMUNITY AND
THE SENSE OF NOT FITTING FITTING
IN BEING WITH SOME OF THEM. I
WAS FIVE YEARS OLD. THE FIRST
TIME I CAME INTO CONTACT WITH
LAW ENFORCEMENT. BY EIGHTH GRADE
. I WAS KICKED OUT OF THE
DISTRICT AND PLACING THE
CONTINUATION SCHOOL. EDUCATION
THAT WAS OFFERED IN CONTINUATION
SCHOOL WAS POOR, AND THAT IS
DESCRIBING IT NICELY. THE
TEACHERS WOULD DO NOT CARE ABOUT
TEACHING, SO STUDENTS DO NOT
CARE ABOUT LEARNING. WE WERE
MOSTLY GIVEN WORK. SHE THINK I
COMPLETED THE HOMEWORK PACKAGE
THAT WERE THROWN AT ME AND
BECAUSE OF THAT WAS GIVEN A HIGH
SCHOOL DIPLOMA. BUT IT WAS JUST
ANOTHER PIECE OF PAPER. TO ME.
IT DID NOT MEAN VERY MUCH TO ME
BECAUSE IT WAS NOT MY IDEA OF
HOW I WOULD FINISH HIGH SCHOOL.
IT WAS NOT UNTIL THE LAST TIME I
WAS INCARCERATED IN 2022 THAT I
BEGAN TO THINK ABOUT EDUCATION
DIFFERENTLY. I DECIDED TO ROLL
IN A COUPLE OF COMMUNITY COLLEGE
COURSES, MAINLY TO KEEP MYSELF
BUSY AND PASS THE TIME TO MY
SURPRISE. I DID WELL IN MY
CLASSES, PUBLIC SPEAKING HISTORY
OF ROCK, SOCIOLOGY AND CAREER IN
LIFE COUNSELING, EARNING ALWAYS
THAT IS WHEN I REALIZED THAT I
WAS NOT AS STUPID AS I THOUGHT I
WAS DURING THIS TIME I ENCOUNTER
PROJECT REBOUND MANY PROBABLY
MANY PROGRAMS OFFERED SERVICES,
BUT THIS PROGRAM WAS THE FIRST
TO GENERALLY GO THE EXTRA MOUTH.
WITHOUT ASKING. I FOUND MR J. C
PROJECT REBOUNDS PROGRAM
DIRECTOR TAKING THE INITIATIVE
TO APPEAR AT MY COURT HEARING
ADVOCATING FOR ME. THERE'S
REALLY ALLOWED ME TO SEE WHAT I
CONSIDER A PERSON'S TRUE COLORS.
IF THEY GENUINELY DIDN'T WANT TO
SUPPORT ME OR NOT. HE TOOK IT
UPON HIMSELF TO GO THE EXTRA
MILE WITHOUT ME, BUT THE
DIFFERENCE IS THAT IT WAS FOR
ME, NOT NOT SOMEBODY ELSE.
SEEING HOW SUPPORTED THE TEAM
WASN'T TRIGGERED ME TO CONTINUE
PARTICIPATING IN THE DAY REGIME
COURSE. A COUPLE OF WEEKS BEFORE
MY RELEASE DATA PROGRAM ASKED ME
IF I WOULD CONSIDER JOINING
THEIR TEAM AS A STAFF. QUESTION
THAT WAS NOT EVEN CREATED YET.
AT FIRST, I DIDN'T KNOW I DID
NOT WANT TO BELIEVE THEM MY
QUESTION WHY THEY WOULD GO OUT
OF THEIR WAY TO EVEN CREATE A
JOB FOR ME. FAST FORWARD TO MY
FIRST POST RELEASE. CORE
APPEARANCE. I SAW MR J. C AND
MISSING GREEN, THE JUVENILE
JUSTICE AVERAGE COORDINATOR. IN
COURT, AND TO MY SURPRISE THEY
HAD SHOWN UP TO SUPPORT ME. WHEN
THE COURT WAS OVER AS MISS
INGRID TO GIVE ME A RIDE BACK TO
WHERE I WAS LIVING, AND SHE DID.
BUT FIRST HE TOOK A DETOUR.
BECAUSE THEY PUTIN'S CAMPUS AND
THE PROJECT REBOUND OFFICES. I
WAS WHEN I WAS ONCE AGAIN
PRESENTED WITH THE OPPORTUNITY
TO WORK WITH PROJECT REBOUND.
ALL THOSE TWO SKEPTICAL I WAS
WILLING TO GIVE IT A CHANCE, AND
I AM GLAD I DID BECAUSE IT HAS
WORKED OUT WELL FOR ME SO FAR.
PROJECT REBOUND HAS GIVEN ME AN
EMPLOYMENT AND A SENSE OF
COMMUNITY. I NOW SEE OPTIONS AND
OPPORTUNITIES FOR A BETTER LIFE
FOR MYSELF THAT I DID NOT SEE.
BEFORE PROJECT REBOUND CAME CAME
INTO MY LIFE. I'M LOOKING
FORWARD TO STARTING MY ACADEMIC
JOURNEY. IN THE FALL. HELLO I
HAVE NOT DECIDED MY MATE ON MY
MAJOR GAME. I'M INTERESTED IN
BOTH SOCIOLOGY AND PSYCHOLOGY.
RIGHT NOW. I'M NOT SURE ABOUT MY
CAREER PATH YET. I HAVE LEARNED
THAT I DO LIKE WORKING IN THE
HIGHER EDUCATION SPACE AND WITH
AND WITH SYSTEM IMPACTED
INDIVIDUALS. I'M THINKING ABOUT
SOCIAL WORK OR SOME SORT OF
COUNSELING COUNSELING CAREER,
BUT I'M STILL UNDECIDED. I WOULD
LIKE TO OFFER THESE
RECOMMENDATIONS THAT I BELIEVE
WOULD BE IMPACTFUL TO BETTER
ENGAGE INCARCERATED YOUTH. FIRST
STUDENTS WHO ARE CLOSE TO
GRADUATING OR TAKING COLLEGE
COURSES IN YOUTH CORRECTIONAL
FACILITIES SHOULD BE ASSIGNED AN
EDUCATIONAL TEAM. I MYSELF HAVE
AN EDUCATIONAL TEAM, BUT I WILL
I CAN I CONSIDER MR J. C ALL
THREE OF THESE. THE TEAM WOULD
CONSIST OF AN ACADEMIC PEER
NAVIGATOR WHO WOULD GET TO KNOW
A FIELD OF INTEREST. THE YOUNGER
THOSE CONSIDERING A CASE MANAGER
WHO WILL PROVIDE SUPPORT WITH
NAVIGATION SERVICES FOR REENTRY
AND THE LIFE COACH, WHICH IS
SOMEONE WHO WOULD BE CONSIDERED
A HOMEY. ALL THIS WOULD BE
AVAILABLE TO EVERYONE IN THE
YOUTH FACILITIES. TO CONCLUDE
THE CURRENT PROGRAMS, CLASSES
RESOURCES ETCETERA BEING OFFERED
TO LONG TERM YOUTH OFFENDERS AND
GRADUATES MUST CHANGE. THERE ARE
SERVICES AND PROGRAMS THAT ARE
INEFFECTIVE AND HAVE BEEN IN
PLACE FOR SOME TIME THAT NO
LONGER HELP THE YOUTH ONCE THEY
GRADUATE FROM HIGH SCHOOL. THE
THINGS WE WOULD DO THE THINGS WE
SHOULD BE TEACHING. THESE YOUNG
MEN AND WOMEN ARE OFTEN
RESTRICTED BECAUSE THEY ARE IN A
JUVENILE FACILITY. ALTHOUGH THEY
ALREADY ABOVE AGE I WAS
WEDNESDAY NIGHT THE OPPORTUNITY
TO CREATE AN EMAIL I WAS EIGHT.
I WAS ONCE TONIGHT THE
OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE AN EMAIL
AT ADDRESS ADDRESS. SO THE
COLLEGE I WAS REGISTERING TO
WOULD BE ABLE TO CONTACT ME.
THESE ARE JUST A FEW SUGGESTIONS
TO BETTER PROVIDE AND ENSURE
ACADEMIC SUCCESS FOR THIS
INCARCERATED YOUTH. LASTLY YOU
SHOULD KNOW THAT ALL COLLEGES
ALSO DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT
POLICIES IN PLACE TO SUPPORT
INCARCERATE STUDENTS AND MANY
TIMES PROBATION POLICIES
CONFLICT WITH WITH THESE COLLEGE
POLICIES. YOUTH FACILITIES ARE
NOT COLLEGE CAMPUSES. THANK YOU
FOR LISTENING TO ME. AND IF I
MIGHT UNIFY MAY ASK FOR JUST A
COUPLE OF MINUTES OR A COUPLE OF
SECONDS. TO FREELY TALK. PLEASE.
YOU WANT ADDITIONAL TIME? I JUST
WANTED TO POINT OUT EARLIER. I
AM I HEARD ABOUT OR THE QUESTION
OF WHY JUVENILES HAVE
INCARCERATION RATE HAS BEEN
DECREASING. UM 20 YEARS OLD 10
YEARS AGO, UM I'VE HAD. I HAD A
LOT OF OLDER PEOPLE OPINION. I
GUESS WE'LL HAVE LIFERS COMING
OUT OF PRISON. UM ONE THING THEY
ALWAYS EMPHASIZED WAS THE
IMPORTANCE OF EDUCATION BECAUSE
THE LACK OF THEY THEY I GUESS
THEY REALIZED THAT THEY WEREN'T
IN THE RIGHT. UH PATH, YOU KNOW,
BUT IT WAS TOO LATE FOR THEM. I
WAS TOLD, YOU KNOW. THEY WERE MY
FIRST. ADVOCATES YOU KNOW MY
PERSONAL ADVOCATE MY PERSONAL
LIFE COACH. UM AND I THINK
THAT'S WHY, BECAUSE MANY PEOPLE
WHO DAVID GAME PAROLE WERE ABLE
TO DO THAT TRANSITION OUT FROM
THE SYSTEM TO OUT HERE. GO BACK
TO THEIR COMMUNITIES TO TALK TO
THEIR OWN PEOPLE. YOU KNOW, UM I
BELIEVE THAT'S WHY. IN THE LAST
DECADE RECEIVE TOURISM HAS
DECREASED IN REGARDS TO MINORS
AND YOUTH. I KNOW MANY PEOPLE
STILL INSIDE AND, UH OUT HERE
WHO HAVE CHANGED THEIR LIFE, SO
THEIR STORIES THERE NOW THAT I'M
MORE MATURE AND MORE I'M ABLE TO
SEE THE WORLD IN THE MACRO
LEVEL, JUST NOT BREATHING IN MY
OWN COUNTY IN MY OWN SEAT IN MY
HEAD. I BELIEVE THEIR THEIR
STORIES AND WHAT THEY OFFER.
WHAT THEY HAVE TO OFFER IS VERY
AUTHENTIC CAN BE. IT CAN BE JUST
GIVEN INTO SPY SOMEONE WHO HAS A
DEGREE OR DOESN'T HAVE NO LIFE
EXPERIENCE. THAT HAS A DEGREE,
YOU KNOW, AND I BELIEVE THAT AS
A BIG KEY. FOR THAT, BUT THAT'S
IT. THANK YOU FOR HEARING. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU FOR THOSE ALL OF
YOUR SHARING OF YOUR EXPERIENCE
, MR V, I GUESS, BUT ESPECIALLY
THE MOST HOPEFUL AND AH! REAL
WAY THAT WE KNOW THAT GOOD
THINGS CAN HAPPEN FROM ONE WE
EMPOWER COMMUNITY TO BE ABLE TO
REPRESENT AND GIVE BACK TO
COMMUNITIES AND THANK YOU FOR
SHARING THAT. OUR OPEN IT UP FOR
PANEL QUESTIONS, TOO. YOU CAN GO
FOR SYSTEM FINE. I'LL GO FIRST
THIS TIME, SO I THINK ONE I DID
WANT TO JUST ASK MR VEGA'S, UH,
FOLLOW UP. QUESTION TO YOUR UM,
COMMENTARY AROUND THE, UH, THE
WAY IN WHICH THE COLLEGE CAMPUS
POLICIES DON'T NECESSARILY MESH
WITH THE WITH THE WITH THE
POLICIES IN PROBATION, AND JUST
JUST FROM YOUR OWN KIND OF LIVED
EXPERIENCE, MAYBE SOME EXAMPLES
OF WHERE YOU SAW THOSE TWO
THINGS NOT REALLY LINING UP IN
THE WAY THAT THEY SHOULD. WELL
1ST, 1ST AND FOREMOST NOW,
PROBATIONS, UM. I'M ASSUMING
IT'S BECAUSE JUVENILE
UNDERSTANDING FACILITY
PROGRESSION WAS BIG ENOUGH
PRIVACY FOR BEING ON THE EMAILS
THAT COULDN'T CREATE AN EMAIL
BECAUSE POSSIBILITY, YOU KNOW?
OH, UM SO THAT'S ONE OF THEM.
UH, HOW EVEN THOUGH I'M ABOVE 18
I'M STILL GETTING TRADE AS A
JUVENILE, UM, IN THE SENSE OF I
DON'T KNOW WHAT'S BEST FOR
MYSELF OR LIKE UM AND I KNOW THE
THING IS LIKE WE WERE ONLY
GIVEN, UH. COURSES THAT WERE NON
CREDITED BASED ON THE
UNIVERSITIES, UM, AVAILABILITY.
AND WHATEVER THEIR SCHEDULE WAS
THE THING THAT THEY GIVE THE
UNIVERSITY THE UNIVERSITY WOULD
GIVE IT TO PROBATION AND
PROBATION. WHAT I DID DENY IT OR
THE OR ACCEPTED BASED ON, UM THE
PROGRAMS THAT THEY SCHEDULE THAT
THEY HAD. UM BASED ON THE CAMP
AND THE, UM IT'S THE CAMPING IN
THE HALLS, UH, IN. I'VE BEEN ON
BOTH. BUT I LIVED MOST OF MY
LIFE. MY JUVENILE LIFE IN THE
HALLS. UM THEY'RE THEY'RE MAINLY
BASED ON PROGRAM FOR EACH EACH
EACH. I SEE YOU. NICK.
CHARACTERIZED THERE'S A LONG
TERM TO LONG TERMS. AND THEN
THERE'S A CAMP TWO CAMPS BELIEVE
ONE CAMP NOW AND NOW AND THEN
THERE'S JUST LIKE THIS THE WAR
JUST THE DISABLED GUY LIKE THE
PEOPLE THAT NEED HELP. UM THEY
ALL HAVE THEIR OWN THEIR OWN
THING. BUT ONCE YOU ONCE YOU
HEAR WHAT YOU HATE GRADUATE,
WHETHER YOU'RE 18 OR NOT, UH,
NO, THERE'S NO SERVICES LIKE
THEY'RE FREE BALLING IT FOR LACK
OF WORDS. YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO
PROTOCOL THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY
FOLLOWING WITH O C. D E IN HIGH
SCHOOL, KIND OF BASED ON WHAT I
SAID, AND CONCERN ABOUT IN
CONTINUATION. THEY JUST TOSS
YOUR PACKAGE THERE AND THEY GIVE
YOU CREDIT. REGARDLESS IF YOU
ANSWER THEM RIGHT OR NOT. UM SO
IN ANYBODY IN THE HIGHER
EDUCATION, IT'S MORE BASED ON
THE UNIVERSITY'S POLICIES OF
KIND OF THE REQUIREMENTS AND
PROBATIONS. UNWILLING, UH, LIKE
. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THEY'RE
JUST THEY'RE JUST NOT UNWILLING
TO DO IT OR LIKE TO ACCOMMODATE
THEIR OR LIKE THEY JUST DON'T
WANT TO. I DON'T KNOW, BUT THAT
THING IS ABOUT STAFFING, YOU
KNOW, THEIR THING IS ABOUT
SECURITY OR LIABILITIES. UH, NOT
NECESSARILY ABOUT THE LEARNING
NOT YEAH, YEAH, THERE ARE, UM
HOW DO I SAY. PEOPLE WHO HAVE
HEARD SPOKEN. SPEAK ABOUT THE M
O U S OR, LIKE THE UNIVERSITY'S
MOU S. I'M NOT MUCH FAMILIAR
WITH THAT TERM. UM, BUT I KNOW
THAT WAS A BIG PART OF ABOVE AN
ISSUE THAT WAS TALKED ABOUT AND,
UM YEAH. THAT'S HELPFUL. THANK
YOU. AH SO, PROFESSOR HEINER, I
JUST WANTED TO ALSO THANK YOU
FOR BEING HERE. AND I ALSO
UNDERSTAND THAT MISS UH OH.
MARILYN. MARYLAND RALSTON IS
HERE AS WELL IN THE AUDIENCE
TODAY, UM, WANTED TO JUST GIVE
YOU A SHOUT OUT FOR YOUR
LEADERSHIP AND EXPANDING WHAT IS
RELATIVELY SMALL PROGRAM AT CSU
INTO WHAT IS TODAY SUCH AN
INCREDIBLE OPPORTUNITY TO
SUPPORT OUR YOUTH IN JUVENILE
FACILITIES. SO I WANT TO THANK
YOU FOR THAT. AND JUST ALSO
WANTED TO HAVE YOU EXPOUND UPON
A LITTLE BIT YOU MENTIONED IN
YOUR, UM AND YOUR TESTIMONY THE
NEED FOR OFFICE OFFERING KIND OF
ASYNCHRONOUS AND SYNCHRONOUS
LEARNING OPPORTUNITIES. I THINK
THAT WAS ADDRESSED IN TERMS OF
THE KIND OF INTERRUPTIONS AND
THE FACT THAT THE SYSTEM WASN'T
REALLY BUILT FOR LONG TERM
STAYS. FOR THE MOST PART. UM AND
MR VÀ. THAT'S ALSO SPOKE TO THE
IDEA OF LIKE GIVING PEOPLE
PACKETS AS OPPOSED TO WHAT WE
KNOW NEEDS TO HAPPEN. SO IF YOU
COULD SPEAK TO, IF NOTHING ELSE
KIND OF THE STAFFING MODELS THAT
YOU THINK ARE APPROPRIATE, UH,
TO BE ABLE TO ENSURE THAT THERE
IS A KIND OF LONGEVITY OF
SUPPORT AND LEARNING
OPPORTUNITIES, OF COURSE
OFFERINGS AND I THINK, UH, ALL
THREE OF YOU MY PEOPLE ANSWER
THAT. YES. THANK YOU. UM SO, UM,
I THINK EDGAR SPOKE. YOU KNOW,
REALLY POINTEDLY TO IT WHEN HE
POINTED TO A APPEAR, NAVIGATOR,
RIGHT? SO UM, I TRIED TO
FOREGROUND, UM, IN MY REMARKS
THAT ALMOST ALL THE PROJECT
REBOUND STAFF HAVE LIVED
EXPERIENCE WITH THE CRIMINAL
LEGAL SYSTEM AND 36% OF OUR
STUDENTS HAVE JUVENILE JUSTICE
EXPERIENCE SO THAT THAT
CREDIBILITY WHEN FOLKS WERE NOT
WHEN OUR STAFF COME IN. AS
REPRESENTATIVES OF THE
UNIVERSITY. UM AND REALLY SEEK.
TO SECURE THE CONSENT OF YOUTHS
, UM, IN THE PROCESS RIGHT AND
REALLY SEEK TO BUILD TRUST AND
ARE ABLE WITH GREAT FACILITY TO
SECURE THAT BY IN, UM AND TWO
AND SHOW UP AS AS EDGAR
MENTIONED, UM IN YOUTH
DEVELOPMENT COURT, UH, AND SHOW
UP, RIGHT? UM AH, AT RELEASE,
RIGHT, UH, AND TO TAKE EDGAR ON
THAT DETOUR TO THE UNIVERSITY
CAMPUS, RIGHT? SO UM, HAVE
INCREDIBLE MENTORS WHO ARE WHO
APPEARS AT WELL SO NOW AND NOW
THAT WE HAVE GRADUATES RIGHT
WHEN WE BRING YOUTHS WHO ARE
STILL IN CUSTODY ONTO CAMPUS,
THEY'RE NOW SEEING EDGAR AND
OTHERS THAT THEY WERE INSIDE
WITH. LIVING AND A NEW LIFE
RIGHT ON, YOU KNOW, EMPLOYED ON
A COLLEGE CAMPUS, ENROLL COLLEGE
CAMPUS. SO UM, I THINK THAT'S
IMPORTANT THAT THE CONTINUITY,
RIGHT, UM SO MANY YOUTHS HAVE
BEEN FAILED AND ARE SURVIVORS OF
SYSTEMS OF ORGANIZED
ABANDONMENT. UM THAT THE COMING
AND GOING OF STAFF, UM AND THE
COMING AND GOING OF PROGRAMS AND
YOU KNOW, UM, I THINK JUST
HEIGHTENS THE, UM, THE TRAUMA
THAT THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THAT
SO HAVING YOU KNOW, HAVING
PROGRAMS THAT REALLY INVEST, UM
AND CREATE THOSE PATHWAYS,
REBOUND IS ALL EVEN WHEN IN
CUSTODY. UM IS BUILDING THAT
PATHWAY AND BUILDING A SENSE OF
IDENTITY AND INCLUSION AND
BELONGING ON ON THE CAMPUS
ITSELF. APPRECIATE THAT. I JUST
WANTED TO GET A LITTLE BIT INTO
LIKE THE, UM THE HEART OF WHAT
IT WOULD MEAN TO ACTUALLY BE
ABLE TO SCALE AT A LEVEL THAT
WOULD HAVE THE KIND OF IMPACT
THAT WE WANT ACROSS. UM, THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA. SO IF YOU
CAN SPEAK EITHER, I GUESS WE
HAVE RISING SCHOLARS. THAT HAS
KIND OF SOME LEGITIMATE SKILL
HERE, TOO, BUT I KNOW THAT
PROJECT REBOUND IS ALSO IN THE
PROCESS OF TRYING TO DO THAT, IN
A VERY THOUGHTFUL WAY AS WELL.
SO IF YOU COULD GIVE US A SENSE
OF YOU KNOW THE PLAN SCALE BUT
THEN ALSO THE FUNDING RESOURCES
REQUIRED TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT
ACHIEVE THAT LEVEL OF SCALE AND
SOME OF THE FUNDING SOURCES THAT
YOU THINK NEED TO BE TAPPED INTO
THAT'S A BIG QUESTION. UM AND I
DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVE ALL THE
ANSWERS FOR YOU RIGHT NOW, BUT I
CAN CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, DO SOME
THINKING AND RESEARCH AND
DISCUSSION WITH MY COLLEAGUES
AND GET BACK TO YOU. BUT I'LL
SAY THAT, UM, YOU KNOW SO OUR
OUR RECIDIVISM RATE ACROSS THE
SYSTEM IS LESS THAN 1. UM AND,
UM 66% OF OUR STUDENTS ARE
EARNING MORE THAN THREE POINT
OH, EVERY SINGLE SEMESTER. UM SO
WE HAVE A HIGH SUCCESS RATE WE
HAVE LEARNED IN THE SHORT TIME
THAT WE'VE BEEN PIVOTING TO TRY
TO SUPPORT USE THAT IT'S VERY
RESOURCE INTENSIVE, SO THE SCALE
OF STAFFING REQUIRED TO PROVIDE
YOU WITH THIS SUPPORT, UM,
EMPOWERMENT AND CONTINUITY, UM,
THAT THEY DESERVE. IS GREATER. I
GUESS THAT SHOULD COME AS NO
SURPRISE. UM BUT WE'RE STILL YOU
KNOW, WE AT THE SAME TIME WE
STRATEGICALLY UM, HAVE
APPROACHED THE ADULTS BUILD.
WE'VE STRATEGICALLY BUILT A
PRISON TO COLLEGE PIPELINE FROM
THE ADULT SYSTEM. FIRST BECAUSE
NOW WE HAVE 830 CREDIBLE
MESSENGERS, YOU KNOW, AND
FURTHER ALUMNI WHO WE CAN
LEVERAGE FEDERAL WORK STUDY, FOR
INSTANCE, YOU KNOW TO EMPLOY ON
CAMPUS, YOU KNOW, TO HELP DO
THIS WORK. UM, SO THERE'S, UH
THERE'S A GREAT DEAL OF SUPPLY
OF, UM. YOU KNOW OF SYDOR'S
AMBASSADORS, BUT IT'S ABOUT UH,
CAPACITY HATING THEM, RIGHT? I
GUESS. SIMILAR QUESTIONS FOR MS
NADLER RELATED TO THE RISING
SCHOLARS PROGRAM. QUESTION OF
SCALE OR YEAH, UH, WE HAVE DONE
THIS BEFORE, WHICH IS A REALLY
FORTUNATE ADVANTAGE. WE SCALED
PROGRAMS FROM HAVING A COUPLE TO
44 NOW TO 80 ON THE ADULT SIDE.
AND SO WE LEARNED A LOT OF
LESSONS ALONG THE WAY ABOUT WHAT
WORKS AND WHAT DOESN'T WORK. UM,
WE ARE TAPPING INTO SOME OF
THOSE PROJECT REBOUND GRADUATES
TO POTENTIALLY RUN OUR PROGRAMS
. IT'S LIKE VERY EXCITING TO
HAVE A POOL OF 800 PEOPLE THAT
WE COULD POTENTIALLY DISTRIBUTE
THESE 45 JOB DESCRIPTIONS THAT
WILL BE COMING OUT. UM FROM THE
CAMPUSES TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE
HIRING FOLKS WHO ARE CREDIBLE
MESSENGERS, RIGHT? WE DON'T
REQUIRE THAT THE PROGRAM LEAD BE
FORMALLY INCARCERATED THEMSELVES
, BUT WE DO REQUIRE THAT THEY
HAVE DIRECT EXPERIENCE WITH
SYSTEMS OF INCARCERATION.
SCALING IS GOING TO BE A BIT OF
A TASK. WE'VE WITHHELD SOME
DOLLARS FOR STAFFING. BASICALLY
I'D LIKE TO TAKE THE ROLE THAT
I'M PLAYING NOW, WHICH IS, UM,
IN ADDITION TO DOING A LOT OF
THE STATEWIDE ORGANIZING ON THE
YOUTH JUSTICE INITIATIVE, I DO
REGIONAL TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE
AND PROVIDE, UH I'M ON THE PHONE
WITH COLLEGE PRACTITIONERS FOR
MORE THAN 30 COLLEGES. IT'S LIKE
120 PEOPLE EVERY SINGLE DAY I GO
TO CAMPUSES. I WORK WITH THEIR
PROBATION DEPARTMENTS. I BRING
SOLUTIONS ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED OR
WHAT WAS SUCCESSFUL FOR
RESOLVING AN ISSUE IN ONE COUNTY
AND I BRING ABOUT FIVE DIFFERENT
OPTIONS TO ANOTHER COUNTY WHO'S
EXPERIENCING THAT SAME CHALLENGE
, SO WE'RE GOING TO HIRE MORE
REGIONAL COORDINATORS. SO THERE
WILL BE POINT PEOPLE ACROSS THE
STATE WHO CAN HELP NEGOTIATE AND
NAVIGATE THE CHALLENGES THAT
HAVE COME UP LOCALLY. UM WE'RE
ALSO REALLY COMMITTED TO THIS
DATA PIECE, BECAUSE I THINK AS
WE SCALE IT'S GOING TO BE
HELPFUL EVERY YEAR TO BE ABLE TO
SEE WHERE WE ARE. SUCCEEDING AND
ALSO WHERE WE ARE FAILING SO
THAT WE CAN PIVOT. UM, IN ORDER
TO MEET THAT NEED YEAH. AND
QUESTION FOR CHIEF KEEN. UM YOU
I REALLY APPRECIATED THE COMMENT
THAT YOU MADE ABOUT BASICALLY
WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE
OFFERING MORE YESES THAN NOSE
RAISED A LOT OF THE ISSUES THAT
HAVE PRESENTED SOME NOSE RELATED
TO KIND OF SOME OF THE
LOGISTICS. UM ANOTHER PIECE OF
WHAT? I THINK BOTH. AH WE'RE
BOTH PASSIONATE ABOUT IS REALLY
AROUND DIGITAL EQUITY. UM IT
STRIKES ME THAT A LOT OF THE
ISSUES THAT YOU'VE RELATED TO
INTERNET TECHNOLOGY ACCESS. UM
AND EVEN PARTNERSHIPS WITH
COMMUNITY COLLEGES AND SOME OF
THAT SECURITY AND, UM AH! SOME
OF THE SECURITY ISSUES ARE HAVE
BEEN PRESENTED AS BARRIERS. SO
CAN YOU SPEAK A LITTLE BIT TO
THE WAYS OF WHAT YOU THINK WE
MIGHT BE ABLE TO RESOURCE THAT
NOT ONLY FOR WHERE YOU ARE, BUT
ACROSS THE STATE AND THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE THE
QUESTION, I THINK, UM, IT WAS
REALLY IMPACTFUL LISTENING.
TIMOTHY ANGUS TALKED ABOUT HIS
DIFFICULTY GETTING AN EMAIL. UM,
AND THAT REALLY KIND OF
RESONATED WITH ME BECAUSE IT HIT
ME BACK. 2 2010 2011 2012. WE
STARTED TO TALK ABOUT THESE
THINGS. AND IT FELT LIKE YOU
KNOW, WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO GIVE
A PERSON AN EMAIL ACCOUNT OR
SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE? UM
IT'S THOSE TYPES OF LOGISTICAL
BARRIERS. I THINK THAT, UM WE
REALLY HAVE TO BE VERY
INTENTIONAL ABOUT REALLY
ELIMINATING. UM, AS I SAID IT
WAS AN IDEA OF TRYING TO JUST
FIND WAYS TO SAY YESTERDAY IS
AND TO TRY TO BE CREATIVE IN A
SPACE WHERE POTENTIALLY, MAYBE
WE HAVE BEEN MORE STAGNANT IN
THE PAST. UH IT'S REALLY
IMPORTANT FOR ME TO NOTE THAT MY
PEERS ACROSS THE 41 COUNTIES
THAT RUN JUVENILES ARE VERY
COMMITTED TO THIS ISSUE. OF
LOOKING AT THINGS DIFFERENTLY.
FINDING AN OPPORTUNITY TO FIND,
UM, WHETHER IT WAS A LOGISTICAL
BARRIERS THAT WE CAN KNOCK DOWN
. UH THIS THIS COLLABORATION
WITH THE RISING SCHOLARS FOCUS
AROUND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT KIND
OF WHAT'S THIS WAY OF
REPLICATING SOME AREAS IN WHICH
WE CAN DO SIMILAR THINGS. AND SO
I THINK FOR ME, IT WAS JUST
REALLY THE IDEA OF JUST FINDING
UM, SOME OF THESE VERY THEY SEEM
VERY INTERESTING. SEEM VERY
TRIVIAL TODAY. THEY DO WHEN WE
TALK ABOUT IDEAS OF SAYING THAT
, YOU KNOW, UM YOU YOU CAN TRUST
YOUTH WITH THINGS OTHER THAN
JUST PENCILS TO WRITE WITH,
RIGHT? UH YOU KNOW, WRITING
UTENSILS AND, UH, THE EMAIL
ACCESS OR, UM SOMETHING IS SEEMS
SILLY TODAY AS UM, HAVING TO
HAVE SOMEONE STAND OVER YOUR
SHOULDER WHILE THEY'RE ON THE
COMPUTER TO OPERATE IT BECAUSE
YOU WORRY THAT SOMETHING'S GOING
TO HAPPEN AND THINGS OF THAT
NATURE. AND SO I THINK IT'S JUST
FROM A SCALING PERSPECTIVE. AND
MAYBE EVEN AN IDEA. CHAIR OF
THINKING ABOUT HOW DO YOU
FINANCIALLY SUPPORT THAT? I
THINK THAT WHEN YOU START TO
THINK ABOUT FUNDING HAVING FUNNY
THAT SPECIFICALLY EARMARKED TO
THOSE BARRIERS, I THINK IS
REALLY IMPORTANT. WE REALLY AND
IN PROBATION ACROSS THE STATE.
WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT. UM THE
100 MILLION THAT WAS ALLOCATED
FOR US FOR LOOKING AT OUR
FACILITY, IMPROVEMENT AND THINGS
OF THAT NATURE. UM A LOT OF THE
THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO SOFTEN
AND TO IMPROVE THE FACILITIES TO
MAKE THEM UM, MORE AMENABLE TO
LONGER STAYS. I THINK IT'S GOING
TO BE ABLE TO BE ACHIEVED WITH
THAT. BUT I THINK FOR WHAT? I
FEEL THIS THIS COMMITTEE WANTS
TO REALLY FOCUS ON. I THINK
THERE NEEDS TO BE CONTINUED
INVESTMENT IN AN ARENA AND I
THINK INVESTMENTS THAT ARE
REALLY FOCUSED SPECIFICALLY ON
THOSE THINGS, SO TO SAY THIS
MONEY SPECIFICALLY TO BE USED TO
REMOVE THESE TYPES OF BARRIERS,
I THINK IS A VERY IMPORTANT PART
OF ANY FUTURE LEGISLATION THAT
YOU WOULD CONSIDER. THANK YOU. I
APPRECIATE THAT, AND MY LAST
QUESTION WOULD BE FOR DR MCGARY
. IT SEEMS LIKE LOS RIOS
COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT HAS
REALLY FIGURED OUT A LOT OF
THINGS, PARTICULARLY IN TERMS OF
THE COURSE OFFERINGS AND THE
METHODOLOGY OF OFFERING THOSE
COURSES AND JUST WANTED TO HAVE
YOU BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO THE KIND
OF, UM WAYS IN WHICH WE MIGHT BE
ABLE TO ADOPT SOME OF WHAT YOU
ALL HAVE BEEN ABLE TO PUT IN
PLACE ACROSS OTHER COMMUNITY
COLLEGE DISTRICTS. WE'VE BEEN
REALLY INTENTIONAL ABOUT
ENSURING THAT THERE'S THESE
PARALLEL EXPERIENCES SO IF A
STUDENT WERE TO WALK ONTO A
COLLEGE CAMPUS, THEY HAVE AN
ARRAY OF CHOICES. DEGREE
PATHWAYS, META MAJORS RESOURCES
, AND THE GOAL IS TO CREATE THE
SAME EXPERIENCE AS CLOSELY AS
POSSIBLE IN A CORRECTIONAL
FACILITY IN DOING COURSE,
SCHEDULING THE DREAM WOULD BE
THAT A STUDENT IN A CORRECTIONAL
FACILITY ENROLLS IN THEIR
COURSES FOR THE SEMESTER AND
LET'S SAY EIGHT WEEKS IN THEY
RELEASE THEY SHOULD, IN THEORY,
BE ABLE TO RETURN TO THEIR
COMMUNITY CAMPUS. AND ENROLL IN
THAT SAME COURSE AT THE SAME
POINT IN TIME, SO IF WE'RE
OFFERING ART 300 IN A
CORRECTIONAL FACILITY AND A
STUDENT RELEASES EIGHT WEEKS IN
AND IT'S A 16 WEEK COURSE IF WE
ALSO HAVE ART 300 ON CAMPUS,
THERE'S NO REASON WHY THEY CAN'T
CONTINUE THAT ENROLLMENT IN
PERSON ON CAMPUS BECAUSE IT WAS
AN IN PERSON COURSE TO BEGIN
WITH. SO WE ONLY OFFER FACE TO
FACE. IT IS DEFINITELY TRUE. IT
IS MUCH HARDER TO UNDERSERVED. A
STUDENT UP CLOSE AND PERSONAL.
WHEN YOU'RE STANDING WITH A
GROUP OF STUDENTS WHEN YOU'RE
DIALOGUING WITH A GROUP OF
SCHOLARS, YOU WILL RISE TO THEIR
LEVEL OF POTENTIAL JUST AS YOU
WOULD ON CAMPUS. SO WHEN WE LOOK
AT SCHEDULING, WE'RE NOT DOING
ONE OFFICE IN FACILITIES WERE
OFFERING DEGREE PATHWAYS THAT
UPON RETURN TO THE COMMUNITY,
THEY CAN WALK BACK RIGHT ONTO
CAMPUS AND CONTINUE THAT
ENROLLMENT WITHOUT LOSING TIME
AND SPACE IN THAT ACADEMIC
TRAJECTORY. THE SAME IS TRUE IN
FACILITY SO FACILITIES THAT HAVE
MULTIPLE LEVELS OR MULTIPLE
YARDS OR MULTIPLE LOCATIONS.
WE'RE ALWAYS TRYING TO CREATE
THE SAME OFFERING AT THE NEXT
LEVEL. SO A STUDENT THAT MOVES
FROM A LEVEL THREE TO LEVEL TWO
IN A FACILITY SHOULD BE ABLE TO
PICK RIGHT BACK UP THAT NEXT
WEEK IN THEIR BUSINESS. 300
COURSE. WITHOUT HAVING TO DROP
HAVE A WITHDRAWAL ON THEIR
RECORD AND IMPACT. ULTIMATELY
THEY'RE FINANCIALLY DOWN THE
LINE AND THEIR THEIR DEGREE
COMPLETION. SO ALIGNING THE
OFFERINGS, MAKING SURE THAT OUR
SERVICES AND SUPPORTS ARE AS
PARALLEL AS POSSIBLE SO THAT
THAT OPEN ENTRY OPEN EXIT
COMPONENT CAN BE PICKED RIGHT
BACK UP IN THE COMMUNITY IS
REALLY IMPORTANT FOR THAT LONG
TERM PLANNING. IT'S ALSO
DOUBLING THE INVESTMENT. BECAUSE
WHATEVER WE OFFER IN FACILITY
HAS TO BE ON CAMPUS. WHATEVER'S
ON CAMPUS HAS TO MAKE ITS WAY
INTO FACILITY. APPRECIATE THAT.
BY ABOUT IF I MAY, UM, JUST
ADDRESS AN ISSUE THAT YOU RAISED
IN RELATION TO THE OTHER PANELS
ABOUT THE ABSENCE OF A THROUGH G
REQUIREMENTS. UM IT SEEMS LIKE A
B 1 30 IS, UM, POLICY MECHANISM
AT YOUR DISPOSAL THAT CAN
INTERVENE IN THAT RESPECT,
BECAUSE WE'RE SEEING A B 1 30
BEING JUST IN THE SHORT TIME
THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS
ABUSED, WHICH IS THAT IT? THE
INTENT, I SUPPOSE, WAS TO ALLOW
YOUTHS WHO HAVE HAD THEIR
EDUCATIONAL TRAJECTORIES
INTERRUPTED, UM, CATCH UP. BUT
IT'S ACTUALLY BEING UTILIZED. I
THINK TO, UM GET STUDENTS HIGH
SCHOOL DEGREES QUICKER AND OUT
OF THE RESPONSIBILITY OF
EDUCATORS FASTER, BUT NOT, UM,
EQUIPPING THEM TO ENTER COLLEGE
. UM AND I KNOW THERE ARE
CONSENT REQUIREMENTS. UH THAT
YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT
THOSE FORMS LOOK LIKE THAT YOU
SIGN IN ORDER TO GET THEIR HIGH
SCHOOL DEGREE QUICKER AND
WHETHER THEY'RE FULLY YOU KNOW,
AND MEANINGFULLY INFORMED ABOUT
THE WAY THAT THAT CLOSES OFF THE
DOORS OF FOUR YEAR UNIVERSITIES
. UM SO WE'RE WE'RE AT THE
UNIVERSITY OF THE FOUR YEAR
LEVEL. WE HAVE M O U. S WITH OUR
ADMISSIONS DEPARTMENTS THAT
WE'VE DESIGNED TO SORT OF
RESPOND TO THE NEEDS OF FOLKS
WHO ARE RETURNING TO THE
COMMUNITY, AND WE'RE STARTING TO
NOW ADJUST THEM TO RESPOND TO
THE SPECIFIC NEEDS OF YOUTHS.
BUT THAT'S ONE AREA THAT I THINK
WARRANTS ADDRESSING. AND IF I
MAY SENATE BILL 4 16 WASTE THE
THAT HUESO PASSED IN 2021, WHICH
WAS WRITTEN BY REBOUND, PROJECT,
REBOUND, STAFF AND STUDENTS, UM
, HAS PUT SOME GUARDRAILS ON
CDCR. IN TERMS OF POST SECONDARY
EDUCATION THAT I THINK ARE
TRANSLATABLE, UM, FOR SOME OF
THE I MEAN CHAIR BOUND TO YOU
STARTED THE SESSION BY TALKING.
SPEAKING TO THE IDEA THAT
GEOGRAPHY SHOULD NOT UNDERMINE
JUSTICE, AND WE NEED THAT
FLEXIBILITY ARE COUNTIES ARE
VERY DIFFERENT, BUT WE NEED SOME
COMMITMENTS TO QUALITY AND SB 4
16, AT LEAST FOR THE ADULT
SYSTEM, I THINK, PUT SOME OF
THOSE IN PLACE AND THEY WERE
DRAFTED BY BY LIVING FOLKS WITH
LIVING EXPERIENCE. I THINK
THAT'S WORTH UM, I THINK IT'S
WORTH LOOKING AT. CHARITY HAVE
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS
INGREDIENTS I'M EATING. I'M
EATING THE RED SIX ONES WHILE I
CAN TELLING MR MR GABRIEL IS
GOING TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON
HERE WITHIN MOMENTS. UM I THINK
YOU ADDRESSED A LOT OF OUR
QUESTIONS. BUT MAYBE JUST PAY ME
THROUGH JUST A KIND OF BIG
PICTURE HERE. SO IN ONE OF THE L
A OH, THINGS THAT SAYS THEY'RE
ROUGHLY 3000 SO STUDENTS IN
COUNTY JUVENILE SELL THESE AND
JUST, UM, SO THAT'S ABOUT RIGHT.
3000 2200. THAT'S ROUGHLY IN
POLITICIANS SPEAK. YES UM AND
SHE SAID EARLIER IN THE PRIOR
PANEL THAT A LOT OF STUDENTS ARE
CONCENTRATED IN IN LIKE SEVERE
LEARNING. ATTAINMENT SO THAT
LEADS ME TO THINK IT'S PROBABLY
NOT A TON THAT ARE AT THE HIGH
ACHIEVING COLLEGE LEVEL. MAYBE,
LIKE MAYBE LOW SERIOUS IS IT AT
LOS RIOS? IS IT? UM 10% 25 30
50. THEY'RE KIND OF AT THE
POTENTIAL COLLEGE LEVEL. BASED
RUSSELL GO THINK THERE'S THE
TENDENCY TO UNDERESTIMATE A
STUDENTS LIVED EXPERIENCE AND
THE APPLIQUE ABILITY OF THAT
EXPERIENCE IN ACADEMIA, SO
COMMUNITY COLLEGES? YOU DON'T
HAVE TO HAVE A TV 18. YOU COULD
BE 14. YOU COULD BE 16. YOU
COULD BE INCREDIBLY CREDIT
DEFICIENT. YOU COULD HAVE
CREDITS FROM ALL OVER THE
COUNTRY. UM AND WE'LL STILL
ENROLL AND WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS
THE CURRICULUM WILL ACCOMMODATE
THE STUDENT EXPERIENCE. SO WE
REALLY NOT FILTERING THOSE
STUDENTS OUT. COMMUNITY COLLEGE
DOES HAVE YOU KNOW, BASIC SKILLS
. THEY HAVE ADULT DAD. THEY
TEACH PEOPLE WOULD YOU KNOW THAT
GRADE EDUCATION GRANTED, A LOT
OF PEOPLE GO TO ADULT SCHOOL
TOO. I GUESS I'M TRYING TO GET
AT IS, UM WHEN I THINK OF LIKE
RISING SCHOLARS AND PROJECT
REBOUND, AND, UM UNDERGROUND.
SCHOLARS. THE THEIR
ATTRACTIVENESS TO US TO FUND
THOSE AS YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY IN
THE STATE PRISON SYSTEM IS
RECIDIVISM PEOPLE GOING OUT? WE
WANT PEOPLE THAT HAVE EDUCATION.
UM LIKE MR VIEGAS TALKED ABOUT
HERE ARE LESS LIKELY TO GET BACK
IN THE SYSTEM AND MORE LIKELY TO
SUCCEED. SO WE WANT MORE OF
THAT. BUT ON THIS ON THE HONEST,
YOUNGER POPULATION, IT WASN'T
ALWAYS THE GROUP OF I WAS
THINKING ABOUT GRANT, BUT I'M
GLAD THEY WERE HERE. FOCUSING ON
BUT I'M JUST I'M JUST WONDERING
IF THERE'S SUCH A SMALL AMOUNT
OF, UH OF, UM STUDENTS. HOW DO
WE MOST EFFECTIVELY? REACH THEM.
I KNOW YOU'RE SAYING TO LIKE
SOME OF THESE STUDENTS THERE MAY
NOT BE GOOD WITH YOUTUBE
UNIVERSITY. THAT'S WHY I THINK
THAT SO CALIBRATE THINGS
RIDICULOUS IDEA BECAUSE THOSE
STUDENTS WHOSE POPULATION DON'T
DO WELL WITH BUT JUST, YOU KNOW,
LOG ON. HERE YOU GO. YOU NEED,
UH, PEER ADVISOR IS AN ADULT
WORKING THROUGH THESE BECAUSE
YOU MAY NOT HAVE HAD A GREAT
EDUCATION SYSTEM BEFORE AND
WHILE YOU MAY BE ENDED UP IN
THIS JUVENILE JUSTICE SYSTEM,
RIGHT? BUT THAT BEING SAID, IF
THERE ARE SO FEW STUDENTS THAT
YOU'RE REACHING IS IT JUST THE
ECONOMIES OF SCALE MAKES SENSE
TO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? ARE
THERE SO FEW PEOPLE CAN I OFFER
A YAHOO? HIDDEN ANGELS ADVOCATE.
UH. COUNTER NARRATIVE TO THAT
QUESTION. IS THAT YEAH,
NARRATIVE? WELL IT'S A QUESTION
OF WORK. WELL I THINK THE OTHER
THING AND I WILL PUT MR VÀ GOES
ON THE HOT SEAT RIGHT NOW. YOU
KNOW HOW MANY YOUTH IN YOUR
LIVED EXPERIENCE DO YOU THINK
HAD THE ABILITY TO PUT
THEMSELVES IN THE MINDSET TO BE
ABLE TO BE COLLEGE GOING,
REGARDLESS OF THE CIRCUMSTANCE
THAT THEY WERE IN. WOW. OVER THE
YEARS. YEAH. THEY COULD. THEY
HAVE DONE IT IF IT HAD BEEN
OFFERED TO THEM. YEAH. YEAH,
MOST DEFINITELY. I SAW MANY
PEOPLE GO INTO A C Y D. J J OR
JUST EIGHT STRAIGHT. UM BUT THEY
LOST HOPE. YOU KNOW, THEY LOST
SO FOR THEMSELVES, AND IT WAS
JUST FOR SIMPLE THINGS THAT
WEREN'T AVAILABLE TO THEM WHERE
THEY WERE. THAT WERE RESTRICTED
THAT WERE TAKEN AWAY BECAUSE I
SAY TAKEN AWAY BECAUSE THEY'RE
THERE. OR ACCEPT SOMETHING WERE
THERE THEY WERE JUST. FAVORITISM
YOU KNOW, THE WORD IS IT WAS
KIND OF WHAT COMES UP. UM BUT
YEAH, IF I BELIEVE I MEAN,
THERE'S PROGRAMS THAT I DIDN'T
SEE OR HEARD OF, OR OR OR
PARTICIPATE IN. YOU KNOW, WHEN I
WAS YOUNGER, UM, THAT I FOR SURE
WOULD HAVE TAKEN WHEN I WAS
YOUNGER. UM. BUT, YEAH, I DO SEE
A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THEIR
POTENTIAL, YOU KNOW? AND I HEAR
I HAVE A LOT OF, UM. STORIES
THAT I HEAR ALSO FROM COMING OUT
FROM PRISON OR IMPRISON, UM,
ASKED AS WELL AS THE FEDERAL
STATE, YOU KNOW, PRISON, UM SO,
YES, I BELIEVE THERE IS A BIG
NUMBER PERCENTAGE WISE. I'M NOT
GOOD. I'M GOOD AT MATH THAT THAT
GOOD UM BUT, YEAH, I THINK
THERE'S A GOOD HANDFUL OF THEM.
IF I CAN CONTINUE MY QUESTIONS
VENTURE AND I WAS ACTUALLY
MAKING A GO AHEAD CONCLUSION
HERE. SO WHEN WE VISITED DONOVAN
PRISON RECENTLY, A LEGISLATIVE
DELEGATION WE? WE SAW SOME OF
THESE INMATES THAT WERE TRYING
TO ENROLL AND AGGRESSIVE WAS THE
UM, UNDERGROUND PROGRAM HERE,
WHICH IS NOT HERE AT THE TABLE.
THAT'S THE èC PROGRAM. AND
THERE WAS THERE WAS THERE WAS
SUPPLY AND DEMAND PROBLEM. THERE
IS A BUDGET STUDENTS, YOUNG
ADULTS WHO WANTED TO PARTICIPATE
, AND THERE WASN'T ENOUGH
OFFERINGS. AND HE I'M JUST
WONDERING IF WE HAVE THE SAME
THING HERE WITH WITH THEIR
BECAUSE THERE'S THERE ARE SO FEW
PEOPLE IN THE IN THE 18TH OR 25
COHORT HERE IN THE JUVENILE
JUSTICE SYSTEM IN CALIFORNIA. IS
THERE LIKE ENOUGH? IS THERE LIKE
ALMOST AN ADULT TO STUDENT RATIO
LIKE A WONDER ONE LIKE OR IS
THERE STILL STUDENTS WHO HAVING
A TOUGH TIME SIGNING UP? YOU
KNOW WHAT I MEAN? BECAUSE IN THE
IN THE PRISON SYSTEM OR HAVING
IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE YOU WIN
A LOTTERY. IF YOU GET TO SIGN UP
FOR I, UH, COLLEGE LEVEL COURSE.
AND IN HERE, I'M JUST TRYING TO,
YOU KNOW, PAINT A PICTURE AS FAR
AS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE FOR PEOPLE
LOOKING TO GET THAT SUPPORT.
EITHER ONE. YEAH. I THINK IT'S
GOING TO CHANGE WITH THESE 45
COLLEGES WHO WILL HAVE PROGRAMS
WITH THE IDEA IS THAT ACCESS TO
EDUCATION AND HIGHER EDUCATION
FOR A YOUNG PERSON WHO IS IN OUR
SYSTEM SHOULD BE A RIGHT. UM I
SIT ON THE B S. C. C S.
COMMITTEE THAT'S REWRITING THE
TITLE 15 ENTITLED 24 REGULATIONS
FOR OUR SECURITY TREATMENT
FACILITIES, AND I'M TRYING TO
GET LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT
EDUCATION ACCESS CAN'T BE
REMOVED AS LIKE A PUNITIVE STEP,
RIGHT? AND SO I THINK. WHEN
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RISING
SCHOLARS, THE DEFINITION IN THE
NUMBER OF STUDENTS IS A LITTLE
BIT DIFFERENT, BECAUSE THE
REQUIREMENT IS THAT THAT ACCESS
FOR THOSE ALMOST 3000 STUDENTS,
UM IS THERE, BUT WE HAVE AN
EXPANDED DEFINITION THAT
ENCOURAGES OUR COLLEGES TO REACH
INTO THE COMMUNITY. AND WE KNOW
THAT IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS
ABOUT EVERY YEAR 40,000 YOUNG
PEOPLE IN CALIFORNIA ARE
REFERRED TO PROBATION. AND SO
WE'RE ASKING. OUR COLLEGES WERE
SAYING IT'S A REQUIREMENT THAT
YOU INVOLVED STUDENTS. HMM
THAT'S RIGHT. AND THE INTENTION
IS TO SAY WE KNOW THAT YOU KNOW
2200 STUDENTS. IT'S NOT A TON OF
STUDENTS. WE WANT ALL OF THEM TO
HAVE ACCESS AND THOSE WHO ARE
NOT. WE ALSO WANT TO USE DUAL
ENROLLMENT, BUT WHAT WE ARE.
INTENDING TO DO. IS. TO USE
THESE COLLEGE PROGRAMS TO STOP A
YOUNG PERSON WHO MAY HAVE BEEN
REFERRED TO PROBATION OR EVEN
ARRESTED BUT HASN'T YET BEEN
DETAINED FROM EVER GETTING TO A
PLACE WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE
DETAINED BY OFFERING AN
ALTERNATIVE WITH THESE ON CAMPUS
SUPPORT PROGRAMS. THESE DUAL
ENROLLMENT PROGRAMS THESE
OUTREACH PROGRAMS, AND SO
THERE'S THAT 2200. BUT THEN
THERE'S THOUSANDS OF OTHER YOUNG
PEOPLE IN CALIFORNIA WHO ARE
ALSO ABLE TO BE SERVED TO THE
COMMUNITY COLLEGE SYSTEM. TWO
MORE QUESTIONS. SO IF I RECALL A
COUPLE OF YEARS AGO BY FIRST
HEARD OF RISING SCHOLARS, I
SAID, DO YOU WANT TO DO MORE?
AND THE POPE SAID YES. AND I
SAID, HOW MUCH MONEY DO YOU WANT
? AND THEY SAID, WELL, HOW MUCH
DO YOU HAVE? AND I SAID, GIVE ME
A NUMBER. AND I THINK IT WAS 10
MILLION. I SAID, HOW ABOUT 15?
AND SO THERE'S 15 MILLION IN THE
BUDGET. AND I GUESS THE QUESTION
IS, IS THAT ENOUGH? EVERY
SERVING ENOUGH AND WHAT'S THE
NUMBER WE NEED? THAT'S QUESTION
NUMBER ONE. AND THEN, UM OF THE
RISING SCHOLARS NETWORK. HOW
WHAT'S THE PROPORTION? YOU THINK
THAT YOU SERVE WITH YOUR CURRENT
KIND OF OPERATIONS AND GRANT?
THERE'S A LOT WITH JUVENILE'S OR
. ADULTS AND I GUESS ADULTS, AS
IN NOT THE 18 25 JUVENILE
DEFINITION. IT'S ALMOST ALL
ADULTS RIGHT NOW. AND SO THAT'S
WHY WE HAD TO HAVE A SEPARATE
POT OF MONEY BECAUSE IT'S SO
MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE TO SERVE
JUVENILES, UM EL DORADO,
THREE OF US TO, UH, THE
CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE CHANCELLOR'S
OFFICE. I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT. NO
IT'S OKAY. BUT I WANTED TO ASK
FOR SPECIFICALLY AT LOS REALES.
ALL IS TRUE. IT IS MORE RESOURCE
INTENSIVE TO SERVE YOUTH. IT'S
MORE RESOURCE INTENSIVE PERIOD
TO SERVE INCARCERATED STUDENTS.
BUT WHAT'S YOUR CURRENT? YOU
THINK? ROUGH RATIO YOU SERVED
WITH ADULTS FIRST IS THEY'RE 18
AND 25 JUVENILE DEFINITION. OH,
22 1. I MEAN, IT'S IN THIS
REGION AND THE SACRAMENTO REGION
WE HAVE THREE STATE PRISONS TO
COUNTY JAILS. ONE YOUTH
DETENTION FACILITY, RIGHT. SO
WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THAT TO
SCALE OUR PRISONS ARE VERY LARGE
IN THIS REGION ARE JAILS ARE
CYCLING MANY PEOPLE THROUGH AT
FOUR DIFFERENT LEVELS. IT'S A
SUBSTANTIAL DIFFERENCE. THE
CHALLENGE FOR YOUTH IS NOT
SKILL. IT'S TIME. RIGHT WHEN WE
OFFER COURSES WE CAN SAY HERE'S
10 CLASS OFFERINGS, BUT THEIR
ENROLLMENTS GOING TO BE BASED ON
HOW LONG THEY CAN STAY IN THAT
CLEARLY THERE FOR WHAT YOU SAY A
MONTH. SO HOW DO YOU HOW DO HOW
DO YOU NAVIGATE THAT YOU'RE
REALLY TRYING TO SET SOMEBODY UP
FOR WHEN THEY GO CORRECT, SO THE
GOAL IS COMPLETION BEFORE
RELEASE, AND SO YOU HAVE TO PLAN
FOR RELEASE UPON ENTRY INTO THE
COURSE. SO WE HAVE TO KNOW.
RELEASE DATES AT THE TIME OF
ENROLLMENT. WE HAVE TO STRUCTURE
OF COURSE TERMS ACCORDINGLY. WE
HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE
APPROPRIATE OFFERINGS BASED ON
THEIR LEVEL AND LENGTH OF STAY.
SO WHAT WE END UP DOING IS
DUPLICATING CLASS SCHEDULES IN
THOSE FACILITIES TO ENSURE THAT
STUDENTS CAN ENTER COMPLETE EXIT
RE ENTERED A DIFFERENT POINT IN
TIME. UM AT THE YOUTH LEVEL,
IT'S VERY EPISODIC. WE MIGHT SEE
THEM THREE TIMES IN ONE YEAR,
BUT EACH LENGTH OF STATE IS
DIFFERENT, SO WE NEED TO MAKE
SURE THAT THERE'S AN ACCESS
POINT. TO APPROPRIATE, OF COURSE
OFFERINGS. OKAY? THANK YOU, AND
WE'LL BE IN TOUCH WITH OUR
CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE BECAUSE
THERE'S A THERE'S A. NEWS ABOUT
NOT REALLY GREAT BUT SITUATION
BUT IN THE CROP 98 SIDE ACTUALLY
IS, YOU KNOW A LITTLE BIT OF
FLEXIBILITY. THANK YOU SO MUCH
TO OUR PANELISTS FOR THE ROBUST
CONVERSATION. YEAH AND BEFORE WE
MOVED TO PUBLIC COMMENTS, I WILL
TURN IT OVER FOR ANY FINAL WORDS
FROM OUR CHAIR. AH AND I JUST
WANT TO ECHO MANY OF THE
SENTIMENTS THAT WERE SHARED
BETWEEN OUR COLLEAGUES. TODAY WE
KNOW THAT EDUCATIONAL INEQUITIES
CONTINUE TO EXIST IN OUR SCHOOLS
AND THEIR EXACERBATED WITHIN OUR
JUVENILE FACILITIES. AND WHEN
YOU COMBINE THAT, WITH THE
PREDOMINANTLY LOW INCOME AND
BLACK AND BROWN YOUTH IN
PARTICULAR THAT ENTER INTO OUR
JUVENILE JUSTICE SYSTEM THE
EQUITY INEQUITIES GET EVEN
FURTHER COMPOUNDED. THERE IS NO
DOUBT THAT EDUCATION IS NOT ONLY
A WAY TO BE ABLE TO OPEN DOORS
TO OPPORTUNITIES. IT IS ALSO A
PATHWAY TO JUSTICE AND TO ALLOW
FOR OUR USED TO BE ABLE TO
THRIVE AND TO CREATE DIFFERENT
KINDS OF TRAJECTORIES FOR THEM,
SO I WANT TO THANK ALL OF THE
PANELISTS FOR THE VERY ROBUST
CONVERSATION FOR OUR ABILITY TO
JUST RECOGNIZE THAT WE HAVE SOME
ADDITIONAL PATHWAY BUILDING THAT
WE NEEDED TO ENGAGE IN OVER THE
COURSE OF THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS
TOGETHER, AND WITH THAT WE WILL
MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENT. MOVING
TO PUBLIC COMMENT. WE'LL START
WITH ANY PUBLIC COMMENT IN THE
HEARING ROOM. EACH PERSON WILL
HAVE UP TO ONE MINUTE FOR PUBLIC
COMMENTS. NEXT, WE WILL TURN TO
THE PHONES. THE PHONE NUMBER TO
CONNECT IS ON THE COMMITTEE
WEBSITE AND SHOULD ALSO BE ON
THE SCREEN. IF YOU'RE STREAMING
THIS HEARING THE PUBLIC TALK
FREE NUMBER IS 87769. AND THE
PUBLIC ACCESS CODE IS 131543.
WITH THAT WE'LL START IN THE
ROOM. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON
CHAIRS AND MEMBERS. THIS IS
DERRICK LENNOX, ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA COUNTY
SUPERINTENDENTS. I FIRST WANT TO
EXPRESS APPRECIATION FOR THESE
COMMITTEES HOLDING THIS HEARING
IN BRINGING TOGETHER ALL OF
THESE EDUCATIONAL INTEREST
HOLDERS. WE DID NOT SEE THIS TO
THE SAME EXTENT THAT WE ARE
SEEING IT THIS YEAR OF
LEGISLATORS VISITING SCHOOL
SITES STAFF VISITING JUVENILE
COURT SCHOOL FACILITIES. IT'S
REALLY INCREDIBLE, AND I WANT TO
EXPRESS SPECIAL APPRECIATION FOR
INCLUDING STUDENT VOICE IN THE
CONVERSATION. UM I THOUGHT MR
VEHICLES WAS REALLY EXCELLENT.
AND IT'S HARD TO RESPOND TO
EVERYTHING HERE. SO I'LL JUST
SAY THIS THAT, UM I APPRECIATED
ALL OF THE DIFFERENT DIVERSE
VOICES BEING BROUGHT TO THE SAME
TABLES. HERE WE ARE, IN A
PROCESS OF CONTINUOUS
IMPROVEMENT THROUGHOUT OUR
SCHOOLS AND JUVENILE COURT.
SCHOOLS ARE NO EXCEPTION. SO
SOME OF THE COMMENTS AND THE
REPORTS HERE AT FIRST I THINK
THAT MANY OF US IN THE SCHOOL
SIDE LOOKED AT AND SAID, WOW,
THAT'S A LITTLE BIT CRITICAL OF
US. BUT THAT'S EXACTLY THE
POINT. AND SO WE'RE GLAD THAT
THE LEGISLATURES INVOLVED WITH
THIS AND BEING PART OF THE
GROWTH MINDSET FOR OUR SCHOOLS
AND THE CHILDREN THAT WE SERVE.
THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON JOSH
GAGA ON BEHALF OF THE CHIEF
PROBATION OFFICERS OF CALIFORNIA
. THANK YOU FOR HAVING THIS
IMPORTANT HEARING TODAY. AS YOU
HEARD, COUNTY PROBATION
DEPARTMENTS ARE IN THE PROCESS
OF IMPLEMENTING D. J. J
REALIGNMENT ACROSS THE STATE.
THIS POLICY SHIFT WILL INCREASE
THE LOCAL AGE OF JURISDICTION IN
AVERAGE LENGTH OF STAY OF YOUTH
IN JUVENILE FACILITIES. IN MANY
COUNTIES. THIS UNDOUBTEDLY
SHIFTS THE NEEDS OF OUR
POPULATION. WITH THIS LANDSCAPE
, PROBATION DEPARTMENTS HAVE
LOOKED TO MODIFY PROGRAMS AND
FACILITY SPACE TO ACCOMMODATE
THE SHIFTING EDUCATIONAL AND
REHABILITATION NEEDS. AS CHIEF,
KEENE NOTED, WE STRONGLY
SUPPORTED LAST YEAR'S 100
MILLION INVESTMENT IN JUVENILE
FACILITY IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH
WILL ASSIST WITH EDUCATION
DELIVERY AND THANK THE
LEGISLATURE FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
HOWEVER WE CAN ALWAYS BE DOING
MORE TO INCENTIVIZE ROBUST
PARTNERSHIPS WITH OUR EDUCATION
PARTNERS AND PROVIDE ADEQUATE
LEARNING ENVIRONMENTS,
ESPECIALLY ESPECIALLY AS D. J. J
REALIGNMENT REACHES FULL
IMPLEMENTATION. THAT'S WHY, FOR
EXAMPLE, CPAC FACILITATES
QUARTERLY MEETINGS BETWEEN
RISING SCHOLARS, REGIONAL
COORDINATORS AND PROBATION
DEPARTMENTS TO HELP IDENTIFY
SOLUTIONS TO CHALLENGES THAT MAY
BE HINDERING PROGRAM CREATION OR
EXPANSION. WE ARE EAGER TO
PARTNER WITH THE LEGISLATURE TO
ADVANCE OUR SHARED PRIORITY TO
PROVIDE ROBUST EDUCATION,
OPPORTUNITIES FOR JUSTICE,
INVOLVED YOUTH AND LOOK FORWARD
TO FURTHER CONVERSATIONS. THANK
YOU. GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIR
LEE ANGELA REID ON BEHALF OF THE
SACRAMENTO COUNTY OFFICE OF ED.
I JUST WANTED ONE. THANK YOU FOR
THE HEARING AND THE VOICES THAT
WERE HEARD AND TO TELL YOU THAT
THE PROGRAMS THAT YOU'RE
CREATING WORK THERE AND WE'RE
SEEING THE EVIDENCE PROJECT
ARISING SCHOLARS PROJECT REBOUND
AND JUST WANT TO SHARE A STORY
OF A YOUNG HAVE A REMARKABLE
STUDENT FROM SACRAMENTO. UM, HE
GRADUALLY JUST RECENTLY
GRADUATED, UM, THE SACRAMENTO
COUNTY OFFICE OF ED K 12 PROGRAM
WITH A HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA, AND
HE WAS DULY ENROLLED. IN UM IN
HIS COLLEGE COURSES TO EARN AN A
DURING HIS TIME AT THE PRO IN
THE PROGRAM, HE PARTICIPATED IN
THE CULINARY AND PRE
APPRENTICESHIP CONSTRUCTION
PROGRAM THROUGH NORTHERN
CALIFORNIA CONSTRUCTION AND
TRAINING OVER THE LAST YEAR AND
A HALF YEAR EARNED HIS A THROUGH
RISING SCHOLARS AT LAKE TAHOE
COMMUNITY COLLEGE. HE'S BEEN
ACCEPTED AT CSU, SACRAMENTO AND
PROJECT REBOUND IS HELPING HIM
WITH HIS HOUSING. UM THEY
SACRAMENTO COUNTY OFFICE OF ED
PARTNERS WITH US THE LIKE
CHILDHOOD COMMUNITY COLLEGE SEX
DATE AND ARE RE ENGAGING WITH
LUXURY. CEOS TO EXPAND THE
RESOURCES TO THEIR STUDENTS.
THEY FOUND THEIR TRANSITION
SPECIALISTS WITH GRANT FUNDS
THAT SUPPORT THE YOUTH IN THEIR
COURSEWORK DAILY, MANAGE THEIR
ENROLLMENT, PROVIDE TUTORING,
MONITOR PROGRESS AND COMMUNICATE
WITH THEIR POSTSECONDARY
PARTNERS. UM THEY ALSO WORK WITH
THEIR CTE PROGRAMS. ALSO GRANT
PROGRAM ALSO GRANT FUNDED
BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE CTE
DOLLARS, BUT WE HOPE THAT WILL
BE CORRECTED THROUGH A B 377.
COUNTY EXPECTS TO HAVE ANOTHER
THREE YOUTH GRADUATING WITH
THEIR A THIS FALL. WHAT YOU'RE
DOING IS WORKING. IT'S FANTASTIC
, AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS A NICE
WAY TO END THE EVENING. SO THANK
YOU. VERY NICE. SWEET AND THE
EVENING THANK YOU. WE WILL STILL
MOVE TO PHONE LINES. OPERATOR. I
APOLOGIZE IN RELATIONSHIP TO
COMMENT. PLEASE PRESS 10 AT THIS
TIME. WE'VE GOT A LINE 18,
PLEASE GO AHEAD. OKAY, WE'RE
GONNA LINE 22 22, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. GOOD EVENING, ELIZABETH
ESQUIVEL, TRUSTEE FOR THE YELLOW
COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION AND
ALSO VICE CHAIR FOR THE
CALIFORNIA COUNTY BOARD OF
EDUCATION. THE YELLOW COUNTY
OFFICE OF EDUCATION SUPPORTS
FIVE SCHOOL DISTRICTS AMONG
OTHER PROGRAMS. BUT DOES A COURT
SCHOOL THAT I'VE HAD THE CHANCE
AN OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT AND
FORM? UM JUST A QUICK UM, UPDATE
ON WHERE WE'RE AT. WE WERE LAST
YEAR WE HAD TWO STUDENTS ON A
REGULAR BASIS, AND THERE HAVE
BEEN CONVERSATIONS IN THE LAST
TWO YEARS TO CLOSE DOWN THE
SCHOOL. BUT UNLESS THE COUNTY
SUPERVISORS VOTE TO DO THAT, WE
HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO CONTINUE
SERVING AND EDUCATING THE
STUDENTS. AT OUR COMMUNITY COURT
SCHOOL. UM LAST YEAR WE HAD
ABOUT TWO, AND IN THE PAST THREE
MONTHS WE'VE GONE FROM 8 TO 5 TO
SEVEN. SO THAT REALLY SHOWS THE
VOLATILITY OF, UM, HOW MANY
STUDENTS COME IN AND OUT
THROUGHOUT THE CALENDAR YEAR, SO
WE ARE OPERATING YEAR ROUND AND
AS YOU'VE HEARD, THERE ARE
HIGHLY HIGHLY SPECIALIZED
STAFFING NEEDS. AND THE STATE
FUNDING IS BASED ON AVERAGE,
DAILY ATTENDANCE. UM AND SO TO
END. I JUST WANT TO SHARE THAT
THE YELLOW COUNTY BOARD OF
EDUCATION HAS PASSED A
RESOLUTION IN SUPPORT OF A B 906
, WHICH ESTABLISHES A BASE
FUNDING LEVEL FOR JUVENILE COURT
AND COMMUNITY SCHOOLS TO SUPPORT
THE UNIQUE STAFFING AND PROGRAMS
NECESSARY TO SERVANTS. STUDENTS.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT TO GO
TO LINE 23. PLEASE GO AHEAD. HMM
GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIR AND MR
CARE, UM AND MEMBERS OF THE
COMMUNITY, CHRIS REA ON THE HALF
OF MY SCHOOL BOARDS ASSOCIATION
JUST WANT TO ECHO THE COMMENTS
OF MY COLLEAGUES DURING PUBLIC
COMMENT, UM, ABOUT THIS HEARING
, AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR
HAVING IT. UM WHAT YOU'RE
HEARING DURING QUESTION. THE
FIRST PANEL IS A LOT OF THE
CHALLENGES BROUGHT A LOT OF THE
SUCCESSES THAT WE'RE SEEING IN
OUR JUVENILE COURT AND OUR
COUNTY COMMUNITY SCHOOLS. BUT
ONE OF THE BIGGEST CHALLENGES IS
THE ISSUE OF CONSISTENT FUNDING
, AND THIS ONE IS THE BOTTLE
NATURE IN WHICH STUDENTS ARE
REFERRED TO THE PROGRAM. UM
WE'RE DOING MORE WITH LESS. BUT
WITH THE EXPECTED REALIGNMENT OF
D, J. J AND DOWNSTREAM
IMPLICATIONS OF WHAT THAT LOOKS
LIKE IF WE DON'T STABILIZE THE
FUNDING, UM WERE VERY FEARFUL
THAT THIS THIS TYPE OF
CONSISTENT GROWTH AND GAINS IN
ACADEMIC PERFORMANCE. AND JUST A
BILLION FOR STUDENTS TO RETURN
TO THEIR SCHOOLS OF ENROLLMENT
ARE GOING TO JEOPARDIZE. AND SO
THAT'S WHY WE'RE REALLY PLEASED
THAT THERE WAS A REFERENCE BABY
906 WHEN THAT CAME UP IN THE
CONVERSATION ON DURING THE FIRST
PANEL, HOW MUCH THE VERY IT'S A
VERY, UM, GREAT PARTNER TO THIS
CONVERSATION IN TERMS OF HOW IT
CAN GREAT, MUCH MORE GREATLY
STABILIZED AND ENHANCE THE
SPENDING SO THEY CAN MEET THE
EXISTING EXPECTATIONS BEFORE
MOVING TO THE NEXT STEPS OF HOW
WE GROW THOSE EXPECTATIONS, SO
THEY JUST ONE ECONOMISTS TO HELP
SUPPORT 89 06 AND THANK YOU
AGAIN TO THE COMMITTEE FOR HIS
LEADERSHIP ON THE ISSUE. THANK
YOU. LINE. 16, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
GOOD AFTERNOON DISTINGUISHED
CHAIR MEMBERS, PAMELA GIBBS,
REPRESENTING THE LOS ANGELES
COUNTY OFFICE OF EDUCATION.
FIRST I'D LIKE TO THANK THE
COMMITTEE FOR THE CONTINUED
SUPPORT THE PUPILS ATTENDING
JUVENILE COURT SCHOOLS. IT IS
IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT STUDENTS
ATTENDING JUVENILE COURT SCHOOLS
COULD NOT ALWAYS AVAIL
THEMSELVES OF PROGRAMS OR
FUNDING AVAILABLE TO OTHER
STUDENTS AND T K THROUGH 12
EDUCATION SYSTEM. WE URGE YOUR
SUPPORT FOR SENDING MECHANISM,
INCLUDING A BASE FUNDING LEVEL
TO ADDRESS THE HIGHLY DYNAMIC
NATURE OF PROVIDING SERVICE.
THIS IS IN THE JUVENILE COURT
AND COMMUNITY SCHOOL ENVIRONMENT
AS YOU HEARD TODAY AND THE
AVERAGING OF THE METHODOLOGY
USED BY SCHOOL DISTRICTS LIKE
ALWAYS A PROUD SPONSOR OF THE
APP PROMISED LEGISLATION IN 2019
OFFERED BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S JOHN
SAWYER. WE'RE PLEASED TO HEAR
THE COMMENTS TODAY. OF COURSE,
THAT LEGISLATION REFERENCE
CHANGING AT RISK YOUTH TO
PROMISE YOU THAT THE PENAL CODE
AND EDUCATION CODE TO BE
STUDENTS. OUR HOPE IS THAT WITH
THIS NECESSARY FUNDING IN 89 06
. OUR PUPILS WILL RECEIVE THE
SUPPORT NEEDED TO LIVE OUT THE
GOALS OF THAT LEGISLATION TO
ACHIEVE COLLEGE AND CAREER
SUCCESS AS CO SPONSORS OF A B
906. WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING
WITH YOU TO PROVIDE MORE
INFORMATION ABOUT THIS FUNDING.
I KNOW WE'VE MET WITH MANY
MEMBERS ON THE COMMITTEE ABOUT
THIS ISSUE PREVIOUSLY, AND WE
LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING THE
DISCUSSIONS. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. LINE NUMBER NINE. PLEASE GO
AHEAD. GOOD AFTERNOON. THIS IS
DR MONTE PEREZ I'M, A BOARD
MEMBER OF LOS ANGELES COUNTY.
BOARD OF EDUCATION AND PRESIDENT
EMERITUS, LOS ANGELES CHRISTIAN
COMMUNITY COLLEGE BRAND THESE
PROGRAMS A B 906 IS A MUST. YOU
HEARD THROUGHOUT THE TESTIMONY.
THE OBSTACLE SHORT TERM LONG
TERM H G. ALL OF THE CHALLENGES
SPECIAL AD. UH SITUATION SO THE
COUNTY UP EDUCATION ACROSS THE
STATE HAS SUPPORTED 89 06 AS A
FUNNY MECHANISM TO HELP ADDRESS
NOT ONLY THE K 12 HIGH SCHOOL
REQUIREMENTS A TO G AND SO
FORTH, BUT THE HIGHER EDUCATION
PARTNERSHIPS THAT ARE TO OCCUR
SO WE FULLY ADORES. A B 906
THANK YOU SO MUCH. GUIDELINE.
17, PLEASE GO AHEAD. YES GOOD
EVENING. MY NAME IS YVONNE CAN
AND I AM THE COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD
MEMBER OF LOS ANGELES COUNTY
BOARD OF EDUCATION LAST YEAR. WE
SERVED NEARLY 1800 STUDENTS IN
OUR COUNTY SCHOOLS IN THE CAMPS,
AND THAT'S YEAR ROUND. AND WE
MUST PROVIDE A FULL CONTINUUM OF
SERVICES AND PROGRAMS. FOR THESE
KIDS AND EVERY SINGLE LOCATION
EVERY DAY, EVERY MOMENT THAT
DETECT IN F A PATH. WHO TEACHER
AND SCHOOL PRINCIPAL. I KNOW
THESE KIDS WHEN THEY RE ENTER
BACK INTO MY SCHOOL AT PROMISE
YOUTH THAT THEY REALLY REALLY DO
SO MUCH BETTER IF THEY HAVE HAD
THESE HIGH QUALITY AND
CONTINUOUS EDUCATION AT THE
COURT SCORES, SO I URGE PLEASE
SUPPORT 89 OH, SIX. AND PROVIDE
US THE BASE FUNDING SO THAT
WOULD BE READY FOR ALL THESE
KIDS ARE AT PROMISED KIDS ANY
TIME ANY DAY EVERY MOMENT AND
SEND THEM BACK SUCCESSFULLY BACK
TO THEIR SCHOOL RESIDENCE. BUT
THANK YOU SO MUCH, AND NOW WE
URGE FOR YOUR SUPPORT. THANK
YOU. AND WE'LL GO TO LINE 20.
PLEASE GO AHEAD. HELLO MY NAME
IS GINA KUKLA, AND I AM THE
PRESIDENT OF THE CALIFORNIA
COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION AND
THE TRUCK AND A TRUSTEE ON THE
SONOMA COUNTY BOARD OF
EDUCATION. COUNTY OFFICE OF
EDUCATION BOARD MEMBERS. WE ARE
ASKING FOR GREATER AND MORE
STABLE FUNDING TO HELP JUVENILE
COURT AND COUNTY COMMUNITY
SCHOOLS MEET THE NEEDS OF SOME
OF CALIFORNIA'S MOST VULNERABLE
, BUT YET AT PROMISED STUDENTS
AND MY COUNTY OFFICE OF
EDUCATION COMMUNITY SCHOOL,
AMARO'S ACADEMY. OUR GOAL IS TO
GET OUR STUDENTS BACK TO THEIR
DISTRICT HOME SCHOOL AS QUICKLY
AS POSSIBLE. RESEARCH SHOWS
STUDENTS PERFORM BETTER WHEN
THEY ARE REINTEGRATED FROM
JUVENILE COURT AND COMMUNITY
SCHOOLS BACK INTO THEIR HOME
SCHOOL AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
YEP SHORT STAYS AT COURT SCHOOLS
CREATE FINANCIAL VOLATILITY IS
THEIR FUNDING IS BASED ON THE
NUMBER OF DAYS STUDENTS ATTEND,
AND OTHER WORDS. AVERAGE DAILY
ATTENDANCE IS A FAILED FUNDING
MODEL. COUNTY OPERAS, OPERATED
COURT AND COMMUNITY SCHOOLS.
THAT IS WHY WE NEED 89 06. AND I
URGE YOU TO PLEASE PROVIDE THE
BASE FUNDING. FOR THESE ENTIRELY
IMPORTANT PROGRAM. TO SERVE OUR
STUDENTS. THANK YOU. AND WE'LL
GO TO LINE EIGHT. PLEASE GO
AHEAD. GOOD AFTERNOON. I AM
MICHELLE THE WORD AND I'M, A
BOARD MEMBER ON THE SANTA
BARBARA COUNTY BOARD OF
EDUCATION. I SUPPORT A B 906. WE
SERVE SANTA BARBARA COUNTY'S
JUVENILE COURT AND COMMODITIES
COMMUNITY SCHOOLS YEAR ROUND,
WHICH INCLUDES THE WHARTON
SCHOOL AT THE JUVENILE JUSTICE
CENTER, LOS ROBLES HIGH SCHOOL
AT THE LOWEST CREATIVE VOICE
CAMP IN SANTA BARBARA AND THE
PETER B. FITZGERALD COMMUNITY
SCHOOL IN SANTA MARIA. THESE
SCHOOLS ARE CRITICAL SAFETY NET
FOR OUR STUDENTS EXPERIENCING
UNION. EEK BARRIERS TO ACADEMIC
SUCCESS. CAREER EDUCATION AND
SOCIAL, EMOTIONAL WELL BEING A B
906 ESTABLISHES A BASE AND
STABLE FUNDING FOR PROGRAMS,
PROGRAMMING AND FOR THE UNIQUE
STAFFING NEEDS TO ENSURE ROBUST
PROGRAMS FOR SOME OF OUR MOST
VULNERABLE YOUTH. I'M GOING
PROGRAMMING INCLUDES COLLEGE AND
GRADUATION READINESS. SANTA
BARBARA COUNTY OFFICE OF
EDUCATION JUST RECENTLY WAS
ACCREDITED BY WASKE. UM AND NOW
WE'RE OFFERING A THROUGH G
COURSES. THEY ALSO OFFER
PRENATAL AND PARENTING,
EDUCATION CAREER EDUCATION,
WHICH CONSISTS OF MANUFACTURING
A SKILL, WHICH CAN MANUFACTURING
SKILLS PROGRAM. PLEASE SUPPORT A
B 906 AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR
CONSIDERATION. THEN WE'LL GO TO
LINE 24, PLEASE GO AHEAD. HI.
GOOD EVENING. THIS IS RYAN MORE
, MANY WITH THE CALIFORNIA STATE
ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES JUST
LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE
CHAIRS AND STAFF OF BOTH
SUBCOMMITTEES CONVENING THIS
HEARING AND INTO THE PANELISTS
FOR THE ROBUST DISCUSSION. WE
APPRECIATE THE WORK AMONGST OUR
EDUCATION AND PROBATION PARTNERS
AND LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING
CONVERSATIONS AND INVESTMENTS TO
EXPAND QUALITY EDUCATIONAL
OPPORTUNITIES IN OUR JUVENILE
FACILITIES. AND MADAM CHERRY
HAVE NO ONE ELSE WISHING TO
SPEAK AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU
WITH THAT WE WILL ADJOURN. THE
JOINT HEARING OF ASSEMBLY BUDGET
SUBCOMMITTEE NUMBER TWO AND
EDUCATION FINANCE. AND ASSEMBLY
BUDGET SUBCOMMITTEE NUMBER FIVE
ON PUBLIC SAFETY. THANK YOU.
30.
I OWE YOU BUT. EVERYONE UP NOW!
TIME TO STAND INSIDE. THREE ONLY
EVER HEARD OF YELLOW FIVE. I
DON'T KNOW WHEN HE STARTED
LOOKING. TO THE POINT.