GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE. I
CALLED THIS HEARING OF THE
ASSEMBLY, ENVIRONMENTAL SAFETY
AND TOXIC MATERIALS COMMIT TO
ORDER SERGEANTS. PLEASE CALL THE
ABSENT MEMBERS. IN ADDITION TO
BEING ABLE TO STORY INSIDE THE
HEARING ROOM, WITNESSES HAVE THE
OPTION OF TESTIFYING VIA PHONE
LINE CALL IN NUMBER OF HIS
HEARING IS 87769289. AND THE
ACCESS CODE IS 1315444 AGAIN.
THAT PHONE NUMBER IS 8776928957
AND ACCESS CODE IS 131. 5444 YOU
CAN ALSO FIND THIS NUMBER ON THE
ASSEMBLY, ENVIRONMENTAL SAFETY
AND TALKS OF MATERIALS COMMITTEE
WEBSITE AS WELL AS ON YOUR
SCREEN. IF YOU'RE CALLING IN,
PLEASE LET ME ALL BACKGROUND
NOISE. THIS INCLUDES MEETING
YOUR LIVESTREAM BROADCAST YOUR
SMART DEVICES TO REDUCE SOUND
DISTORTION. PLEASE KNOW THAT
COLIN TESTIMONY WILL BE COMBINED
FOR BOTH SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION
WILL BE TAKEN. AFTER ALL PRIMARY
WITNESSES HAVE TESTIFIED.
PRIMARY WITH PRIMARY WITNESS
TESTIMONIES LIMITED FOUR MINUTES
TOTAL FOR EACH SIDE. ALSO BE
ADVISED THAT IF YOUR PRIMARY
WITNESS CALLING IN, YOU'LL
REMAIN ON A LIVE LINE, ONLY TO
MEET YOURSELF UNTIL YOU ARE
CALLED ON TO SPEAK, IN ADDITION
TO WITNESSES BEING LIMITED TO
SAYING THEIR NAME ORGANIZATION
IF THERE ISN'T ONE IN THEIR
POSITION ON THE BILL ALSO WANT
TO NOTE THAT WE'RE ACCEPTING
WRITTEN TESTIMONY THROUGH THE
POSITION PORTAL LETTER ON THE
COMMITTEE'S WEBSITE. THANK YOU
FOR BEING WITH US, AS WE
IMPLEMENT METHODS CONTINUE TO
SERVE THE PEOPLE OF CALIFORNIA.
TODAY WE HAVE 14 BILLS, THREE OF
WHICH AREN'T CONSENT. WE DO NOT
HAVE A QUORUM AT THIS TIME, SO
WE WILL START TO SUBCOMMITTEE
AND WE'RE GOING TO START WITH
THE FIRST BILL TODAY. THAT WILL
BE ITEM TO SIMILAR CHIEVO'S
MAYBE 14 23. SPECIAL GIRL. OH,
SORRY. ONE SECOND. YEAH. UM ONE
SECOND, I'M COMMENCING. THE
HEARING WITH A SPECIAL ORDER OF
BUSINESS TODAY WILL BE FIRST
HERE. THREE SIMILAR PF HOSPITALS
BEFORE US TODAY. FIFA'S ARE A
LARGE GROUP OF SYNTHETIC
CHEMICALS THAT EXTREMELY
PERSISTENT AND THAT HAVE BEEN
LINKED TO HUMAN HEALTH AND
ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS THEIR
PRODUCTION AND USE OUR
CONCERNING THE THREE BILLS
ADDRESSED, FASTEN DIFFERENT
PRODUCTS, BUT TAKE A SIMILAR
APPROACH. AS WITH MOST RECENT
CHEMICAL BANDS, THEY ARE PLACED
IN WHAT WE TERM THE ORPHAN CODE
THAT IS CALIFORNIA CODE SECTIONS
WITH NO AGENCY OVERSIGHT AND NO
AGENCY AND ENFORCEMENT AUTHORITY
. IT WORRIES ME THAT WE PUT LAWS
ON THE BOOKS THAT PROHIBIT
HARMFUL CHEMICALS, BUT HAVE NO
FORMAL ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM TO
MAKE SURE MANUFACTURERS AND
RETAILERS ARE COMPLYING WITH
THESE PROVISIONS. THEREFORE, I
WORK WITH ALL THE AUTHORS
CHEMICAL BANNED BILLS BEFORE
COMMITTEE AND ALL OF THEM ADDED
SOME TYPE OF ENFORCEMENT
PROVISIONS. I AM PLEASED THAT
THE AUTHORS OF ALL THE FASTEST,
FIFA'S BILLS HAVE ADDED THEIR
PROVISIONS THAT PROVIDE THE
ATTORNEY GENERAL DISTRICT
ATTORNEYS AND OTHER GOVERNMENT
ATTORNEYS. WITH ADDITIONAL CIVIL
PENALTY AUTHORITY TO ENFORCE THE
PROHIBITIONS IN THEIR BILLS.
THIS IS A VERY GOOD FIRST STEP,
AND I LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING
WORK WITH THESE GREAT AUTHORS.
AND A MORE COMPREHENSIVE
ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM AS THEIR
BILLS MOVE FORWARD THROUGH THE
PROCESS, AND OF COURSE, I'LL BE
SUPPORTING ALL THE PREFACE BILLS
TODAY AND AGAIN. THANK YOU SO
MUCH FOR WORKING WITH ME. MY
STAFF ON YOUR BILLS AND FIRST
YOU MAY PROCEED IS SOMEONE VERY
SCHEIBER THANK YOU. THANK YOU,
MR CHAIR AND MEMBERS APPRECIATE
YOUR THOUGHTFUL AND ORGANIZED
APPROACH TO THIS IMPORTANT ISSUE
. UM SO I'M SO HAPPY TO PRESENT
A B 14 23 TO YOU TODAY A BILL
WHICH WOULD PROTECT THE HEALTH
OF OUR YOUNGEST ATHLETES. I WANT
TO ALSO THANK THE SENIOR
CONSULTANT SHANNON SHANNON
MCKINNEY FOR HER HARD WORK AND
DILIGENCE ON THIS BILL AND
GUIDANCE IN THE MOST RECENT
AMENDMENTS, UM, FOR YEARS,
ARTIFICIAL TURF HAS BEEN SEEN AS
A REPLACEMENT FOR NATURAL FIELDS
. HOWEVER MANUFACTURING PATENTS
AND STUDIES CONDUCTED ON A
NUMBER OF TURF SAMPLES USED
THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY SHOW
FIELDS CONTAIN FIFA'S AND A
CLASS OF CHEMICALS HARMFUL TO
HEALTH, WHICH IS COMMONLY KNOWN
AS THE FOREVER CHEMICAL. THIS P
FAS IS PART OF THE FIELD ADDED
AS A MANUFACTURING AID AS
CHILDREN LAUGH AND PLAY IN THE
FIELDS, KICK SOCCER BALLS AND
RUN AROUND ON CLEATS AND WHETHER
CLEATS ON AND SUNNY DAYS THE
FIELD SLOWLY WEARS DOWN.
GOVERNMENT AGENCIES IN SWEDEN
FOUND THAT WEAR AND TEAR CREATES
MICRO PLASTIC DUST AND IN NEW
JERSEY, THEY FOUND THAT THE
PLAGUE CREATES PLUMES OF DUST
THAT CONTAIN THE DEGRADED
PRODUCTS OF FIELDS. CHILDREN
BECAUSE OF THEIR HEIGHT ARE MORE
LIKELY TO INHALE AND IN JUST THE
P FUSS CONTAINING DUST AND
FURTHER WHEN IT RAINS, THE MICRO
PLASTIC ENTERS STORMWATER
SYSTEMS AND GROUNDWATER. A NEW
FIELD CAN LAST OVER A DECADE.
THAT'S AT LEAST 10. YEARS OF
PREFACE. DUST 10 YEARS OF
LEACHING INTO WATER SYSTEMS AND
10 YEARS OF CHILDREN, BREATHING
IT IN CALIFORNIA MUST ACT TO
PREVENT OR PROTECT THE HEALTH
AND SAFETY OF CHILDREN AND OUR
COMMUNITY FROM NEW FIELDS
CONTAINING THESE CARCINOGENIC
AND DANGEROUS CHEMICALS. A B 14
23 JOINS OTHER STATES TAKING
SWIFT ACTION TO PROTECT THE
PUBLIC HEALTH BY BY PROHIBITING
NEW INSTALLATIONS AT THE START
OF THE YEAR AT ACADEMIC AND
PUBLIC FACILITIES AND
PROHIBITING SALE OF EARTH
CONTAINED TURF CONTAINING FIFA'S
THE FOLLOWING YEAR. I'M JOINED
TODAY BY BILL I, ALI. OH ALI. OH
SORRY. UM THE CALIFORNIA
DIRECTOR OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS
FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL WORKING
GROUP AND SALLY SOLARA.
PALAVICINI IS ALSO ON THE PHONE.
THANK YOU. I AM BILL AH, LEO
ENVIRONMENT ON MY OWN. I AM BILL
AALIYAH, ENVIRONMENTAL WORKING
GROUP'S DIRECTOR OF GOVERNMENT
AFFAIRS, HERE IN CALIFORNIA FOR
A FEW HOURS ARE ENVIRONMENTAL
HEALTH AGENCY, THE OFFICE OF
ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH HAZARD
ASSESSMENT HAS LOOKED AT THE
ISSUE OF THE USE OF CRUMB
RUBBER, A GROUND UP TIRES IN
ARTIFICIAL TURF AND IF THEY ARE
TOXIC CHEMICALS IN THAT TURF,
CAUSING CANCER AND OTHER
ILLNESSES. THEY'VE LOOKED AT
METALS PLASTICIZERS VALIDATES B
P A ETCETERA, BUT FAST WAS NOT
ON THEIR RADAR SCREEN. BUT IT IS
ON A LOT OF RADAR SCREENS TODAY,
AS MUNICIPALITIES AND STATES
ACROSS THE COUNTRY ARE LOOKING
AND MOVING TO BAN ARTIFICIAL
TURF. AS THE ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
SAID THEIR P FAST CHEMICALS ARE
PERSISTENT KNOWS THAT FOREVER.
CHEMICALS ACCORDING TO DTSC, ARE
TOXIC SUBSTANCES AGENCY CHILDREN
BELOW THE AGE OF 12 OR MORE
SUSCEPTIBLE TO ADVERSE HEALTH
EFFECTS FROM EXPOSURE TO FASTEN
ARE ADULTS. FOR EXAMPLE,
MULTIPLE STUDIES HAVE FOUND FAST
EXPOSURE AND ADVERSE IMMUNE
OUTCOMES AND CHILDREN. IN
RESPONSE, THIS LEGISLATURE AND
WITH SIGNATURES BY THE GOVERNOR
HAS BANNED PEOPLE FASTEN FOOD
PACKAGING, JUVENILE PRODUCTS,
COSMETICS AND TEXTILES. IT IS
NOW APPROPRIATE TO BAN ANOTHER
PRODUCT THAT IS EXPOSING US TO
PEE FAST AS THEY AS THEY BREAK
DOWN THE P FAST LADEN DUST
ACCUMULATES. WE KNOW IT'S
HARMFUL TO HEALTH, EVEN IN
EXTREMELY SMALL QUANTITIES. WE
ALSO KNOW THAT HOMEOWNERS WHO
INSTALL THESE CARPETS AS LAWNS
DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE P FASTEN
THEIR PRODUCT AND THAT RUNOFF IN
THEIR PROPERTIES MAY VERY WELL
CONTAMINATE DRINKING WATER
SUPPLIES, AND WE KNOW THIS
LEGISLATURE IS VERY FAMILIAR
WITH THE DANGERS OF FAST IN
DRINKING WATER. LET ME INTRODUCE
SOLAR PARVEEN E ON THE PHONE.
HE'S BEEN A LONG TIME SOCCER
PLAYER AND NOW COACH WHO HAS A
DAUGHTER PLAYING ON THESE FIELDS
, AND FORTUNATELY AND HE'LL
ADDRESS SOME OF THE MYTHS ABOUT
WHY PEOPLE THINK ARTIFICIAL TURF
IS NEEDED AND BETTER THAN
NATURAL GRASS. THANK YOU. PHONE
OPERATOR. WE HAVE OUR WITNESS ON
THE PHONE LINE RIGHT NOW. HERE.
YOU MAY PROCEED. MY NAME IS
PHILIP ARE VINNIE AND I AM A
RESIDENT OF SENOR COUNTY WOULD
LIKE TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE
MYTHS AS TO LIKE CALIFORNIA
NEEDS ARTIFICIAL TURF. MYTH
NUMBER ONE ARTIFICIAL TURF IS
CHEAPER. THE SPORTS TURF
MANAGEMENT ASSOCIATION DID A
COMPREHENSIVE COST ANALYSIS,
WHICH OTHER ARTIFICIAL TURF IS 6
TO 20 TIMES MORE EXPENSIVE TO
INSTALL THE NATURAL GRASS IS
ALSO 38 TO 54% MORE EXPENSIVE TO
MAINTAIN. AND THE TOTAL
LIFECYCLE COSTS FOR ARTIFICIAL
TURF IS 2 TO 6 TIMES MORE
EXPENSIVE THAN GRASS. MYTH
NUMBER TWO. WE NEED TURF BECAUSE
IT USES LESS WATER. MODERN GRASS
IS USED FAR LESS WATER AND
MODERN GRASS. FIELD SYSTEMS USE
50% LESS WATER THAN BEFORE.
CURRENT SAFETY PROTOCOLS REQUIRE
WATERING OF ARTIFICIAL TURF TO
REDUCE RISK OF HEAT EXPOSURE.
THERE'S ALSO THE ISSUE OF THE
HEALTH EFFECTS OF ON WATER
FIELDS. WATERING AND ARTIFICIAL
TURF FIELD WITH OVER 5000
GALLONS OF WATER, SOMETIMES
TWICE DAILY TO COOL IT FOR A
COUPLE HOURS OF YOUTH IS NOT
WATER WISE. THE INDUSTRY REALLY
TELLS DECISION MAKERS ABOUT THE
WATER COST OF CLEANSING OR
COOLING THE FIELDS. THEY ALMOST
ALWAYS CLAIM THAT THE FIELD IS
SIMPLY MAINTENANCE FREE,
RECOGNIZING THE ARTIFICIAL TURF
COMPOUNDS NEGATIVE HEALTH
EFFECTS TO SCHOOLS AND CHILDREN
. LEGISLATION IS ADVANCING IN
THE STATE SENATE AND MANDATE
THAT THE REPLACEMENT OF
ARTIFICIAL TURF WITH NATURAL
FIELDS AS SOON AS IT IS FEASIBLE
AND MISS NUMBER THREE. WE NEED
TURF SO KIDS CAN PLAY MORE
OUTSIDE AND WHEN IT'S RAINING.
THIS PLAYABILITY MISSED DOES NOT
ACCOUNT FOR THE FACT THAT THE
MORE YOU USE AN ARTIFICIAL TURF
FIELD, THE SOONER YOU WILL NEED
TO REPLACE IT. THE DIFFERENCE IS
THAT GRASS OR GENERATES
NATURALLY AND TURF FIELDS ARE
TYPICALLY REPLACED ALL AT ONCE
AS SOMEONE WHO'S BEEN ON AN
OFFICE SOCCER FIELD FOR 34
YEARS, I CAN TELL YOU THAT ON
RAINY DAYS, ACTIVITIES ARE
REGULARLY CANCELED. REGARDLESS
OF THE SURFACE. YOU'RE PLAYING
ON THE IDEA THAT TURF MEANS MORE
PLAYTIME IS A MYTH IN MOST REAL
WORLD SITUATIONS, AND THE HOUSE
AND ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT FAR
OUTWEIGH ANY OF THE MARKET HAD
BENEFITS. I HOPE THE COMMITTEE
TAKES THESE FACTS INTO ACCOUNT
AS YOU MAKE A DECISION ABOUT
TERMINATING THE USE OF
ARTIFICIAL TURF WAS A KNOWN
TOXIC CHEMICAL. THANK YOU. ALL
RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. DO WE
HAVE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC
AND THE KING ROOM TO TESTIFY IN
SUPPORT OF THIS BILL, PLEASE
COME FORWARD TO MIKE NAME AND
ORGANIZATION. HELLO MY NAME IS
ANDREA VENTURING WITH CLEAN
WATER ACTION AND WE'RE IN STRONG
SUPPORT. GOOD AFTERNOON. SHARON
MEMBERS VICTORIA RODRIGUEZ BEEN
NILSSON MARKSMAN ON BEHALF OF
THE CITY OF MELBOURNE IN SUPPORT
ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. NOW DO WE
HAVE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC
AND HEARING HIS FINE OPPOSITION
TO THE BILL OR THIS IS A SUPPORT
STILL ALRIGHT, GO FOR IT LITTLE
WITH NRDC AND SUPPORT. ALL
RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY OPPOSITION
TO THE BILL. SEEING NINE PHONE
MONTEREY. DO WE HAVE ANY
WITNESSES ON THE PHONE LINE IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION OF A B 14
23? THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. YES, WE
DO. I'M SORRY. THERE WAS NO ONE
ON THE PHONE LINE TO SPEAK. FOR
THOSE WHO WISH TO SPEAK, PLEASE
PRESS ONE THAN ZERO AT THIS
TIME. FIRST GONNA GO TO LINE 79.
LINE IS OPEN. SECURE CARTER ON
BEHALF OF SIERRA CLUB,
CALIFORNIA AND SUPPORT LINE 85
YEAR LINE IS NOW OPEN. JORDAN
WELLS ON BEHALF OF THE NATIONAL
STEWARDSHIP, ACTION COUNCIL AND
STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU. LINE
75. YOU'RE LYING TO SNOW OPEN.
KATHY SHAPER ON BEHALF OF THE
LOS ANGELES AND SAN FERNANDO
VALLEY CHAPTERS, CLIMATE REALITY
AND SUPPORT. THANK YOU. LINE 81
YOUR LINE OF SNOW OPEN. DON'T
BOTTORFF WITH CLEANER FOR KIDS
.ORG STRONGLY SUPPORT LINE 83.
YOUR LINE IS OPEN. VANESSA
FORESIGHT WITH CLEAN, UM CLEAN
EARTH KIDS AND ALSO CALIFORNIA
NURSES FOR ENVIRONMENTAL, HEALTH
AND JUSTICE. I STRONGLY SUPPORT
. LINE 80. YOUR LINE IS OPEN.
CATHERINE DOGS, FAMILIES
ADVOCATING FOR CHEMICAL AND
TOXIC SAFETY, STRONG SUPPORT.
LINE 86. YOUR LINE IS OPEN.
DIANE WALKIE, SAL COAT, HEALTHY
PLAYING FIELDS INCORPORATED
STRONG, STRONGLY SUPPORT. LINE
74. YOUR LINE IS OPEN. TYLER
BENNETT. I AM A PHD SCIENTISTS
AND LAWYER WITH PIERRE PUBLIC
EMPLOYEES FOR ENVIRONMENTAL
RESPONSIBILITY, AND ONE OF THE
SCIENTISTS WHO DISCOVERED FASTEN
ARTIFICIAL TURF AND I'M IN
STRONG SUPPORT. AND FINAL CALL
FOR ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK,
PLEASE PRESS ONE AND ZERO GOING
TO GO TO THE LINE 76. PARDON ME.
AH! LINE 76 PLEASE PRESS ONE
THAN ZERO AGAIN. 76 YEAR, LINUS
NOW OPEN. LINE 76. YOUR LINE IS
OPEN. LEANNE MCCALL IS EXPECTED
IN THE GUTTER AND CALLING IT TOO
STRONGLY SUPPORT A B 1423. MR
CHAIR. THERE IS NO ONE ELSE WHO
SIGNALED THAT THEY WISH TO SPEAK
. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
NOW BRING IT BACK TO COMMITTEE.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS,
COMMENTS FROM COMMITTEE MEMBERS?
ALRIGHT SEEING NONE. UM I WANT
TO THANK THE AUTHOR BRINGING
THIS BILL FORWARD AND AGAIN.
THANK YOU FOR WORKING WITH MY
COMMITTEE STAFF AND MYSELF ON
THIS BILL, I'M RECOMMENDING AN
AYE VOTE AND WILL BE TAKING THE
VOTE WHEN WE HAVE A QUORUM. SO
THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALSO INVITE
YOU TO CLOSE IF YOU LIKE. THANK
YOU SO MUCH, AND JUST TO BE
CLEAR. THIS IS NOT BANNING
ARTIFICIAL TURF. THIS IS BANNING
ARTIFICIAL TURF WITH P. FOSS IN
IT. SO WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR
ALTERNATIVES SO THAT IT'S SAFE
FOR OUR KIDS. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. ALRIGHT NEXT WE'LL MOVE ON
TO OUR SECOND P FAST BILL OF THE
DAY WITH ITEM THREE B 246 BY
SOMEONE OR POP IN WHEN YOU'RE
READY, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND
2. EUROPEAN FAST BILL AND
MENSTRUAL PRODUCTS. HMM. THANK
YOU. CHAIR. MHM. THANK YOU SO
MUCH. CHARLIE AND COMMITTEE
MEMBERS. UM EIGHT B 246 TAKES A
CRITICAL STEP TOWARDS PROTECTING
WOMEN'S HEALTH BY LIMITING THESE
SUBSTANCES PIPPA'S FROM
MENSTRUAL PRODUCTS DUE TO THEIR
DURABILITY, FIFA'S HAVE BEEN
ADDED TO THOUSANDS OF EVERYDAY
PRODUCTS FOR DECADES, INCLUDING
CLOTHING, COOKWARE AND, YES,
MENSTRUAL PRODUCTS. HOWEVER
THESE COMPOUNDS HAVE BEEN LINKED
TO SEVERE HEALTH PROBLEMS,
INCLUDING BREAST AND OTHER
CANCERS, HORMONE DISRUPTION,
KIDNEY AND LIVER DISEASE AND
IMMUNE SYSTEM. DESTROY. RUPTURE
IN IN LIGHT OF THESE FINDINGS,
CALIFORNIA HAS MOVED TO
ELIMINATE FIFA'S CLASS CHEMICALS
FROM CLOTHES, CHILDREN'S TOYS,
COOKWARE AND FOOD, PACKAGING AND
AS OF MAYBE FIVE MINUTES AGO, IT
MIGHT BE LOOKING TOWARDS
ARTIFICIAL. UM EVEN WITH ALL OF
THIS PROGRESS TOWARDS LIMITING
OUR EVERYDAY PREFACE EXPOSURE,
OUR MOST INTIMATE PRODUCTS
REMAIN UNREGULATED IN A RECENT
STUDY. 48% OF PADS IN LINUS
TESTED WERE FOUND TO CONTAIN
PITTAS AND 20, AS WERE 22% OF
TAMPONS. THIS BILL HAS TWO MAIN
COMPONENTS. FIRST, IT WOULD
PROHIBIT ANY PERSON IN
CALIFORNIA FROM MANUFACTURING,
DISTRIBUTING SELLING ANY
MENSTRUAL PRODUCT THAT CONTAINS
REGULATED FIFA'S SECOND, IT
WOULD REQUIRE A MANUFACTURER TO
PROVIDE A RETAILER WITH A
CERTIFICATE OF COMPLIANCE, WHICH
STATES THAT THE PRODUCT IS NOT
CONTAIN ANY REGULATED P. FOSS
CALIFORNIA'S PURSUIT OF GENDER
EQUITY REQUIRES US TO TAKE
ACTION AND ENSURE THAT FEMININE
HYGIENE PRODUCTS ARE SAFE, CLEAN
AND FREE FROM FOREVER CHEMICALS
WITH ME TO TESTIFY TODAY IN
SUPPORT OF THIS BILL IS JESSICA
GOG. ER UM, ON BEHALF OF
CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF
SANITATION AGENCIES, AND WE ALSO
HAVE JAMIE MECHANICAL ON
MCCONNELL. EXCUSE ME ON THE
PHONE ON BEHALF OF WOMEN VOICES
OF THE EARTH. SO WE'LL START
WITH JESSICA FIRST, PLEASE.
THANK YOU. ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S UM
GOOD AFTERNOON, MR CHAIR AND
MEMBERS. I'M JESSICA GAGA WITH
THE CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF
SANITATION AGENCIES WANT TO
OFFER KIND OF A DIFFERENT
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY
PERSPECTIVE ON THIS PREFACE
ISSUE TODAY, SO FAST
CONTAMINATION IS A REALLY MAJOR
CONCERN FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER
UTILITIES. UM IN ADDITION TO
SIGNIFICANT ONGOING EFFORTS, AH
U. S C P A TO COMBAT PFS IN
CALIFORNIA THE WATER BOARD HAS
ISSUED A P FAST MONITORING AND
REPORTING ORDER LOOKING AT P.
FOSTER. CONCENTRATIONS AND
INFLUENCE AFFLUENT. AND
BIOSOLIDS STARTING IN 2020. THE
PHASE ONE PRELIMINARY DATA
INDICATES A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT
OF FIFA'S ENTERING OUR
WASTEWATER SYSTEM IS COMING FROM
RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL
SOURCES FROM PRODUCTS THAT WE
USE IN OUR HOMES AND BUSINESSES,
INCLUDING MENSTRUAL PRODUCTS,
AND AS WE'LL GET TO THE NEXT
BILL IN CLEANING PRODUCTS, SO
THESE ARE UNREGULATED SOURCES OF
P FAST AND THEY DO REQUIRE A TOP
DOWN APPROACH TO EFFECTUATE
POLLUTION PREVENTION. UM AND
DOING IT. IN THIS WAY WITH A
STATEWIDE BAN IS REALLY THE MOST
COST EFFECTIVE SOLUTION FOR
MANAGING P FAST CONTAMINATION,
GIVEN THEIR UBIQUITY IN COMMERCE
, SO THE PRODUCTS IN THIS BILL
CERTAINLY HAVE A DIRECT PATHWAY
TO OUR WASTEWATER SYSTEM WHEN
EITHER THE REUSABLE GARMENTS ARE
LAUNDERED IN OUR HOMES. OR WHEN
DISPOSABLE PRODUCTS ARE
ERRONEOUSLY FLUSHED DOWN THE
TOILET. DON'T RECOMMEND THAT.
PLEASE DON'T FLUSH MENSTRUAL
PRODUCTS SIDE NOTE. BUT FOR
THESE REASONS, WE DO THINK THE
AUTHOR FOR INTRODUCING THIS BILL
AND WOULD URGE YOUR SUPPORT.
THANK YOU RIGHT BEFORE YOU GO TO
YOUR PHONE WITNESS. WE'RE JUST
GONNA TAKE COURT ROLL CALL RIGHT
NOW. SO HE ESTABLISHED QUORUM.
MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL. TO ESTABLISH QUORUM. LI LI
HERE HOOVER HOOVER HERE,
ARAMBULA BAUER-KAHAN CONNELLY
CONNELLY HERE, MAKIN ER MCKENNA
HERE. PACHECO PACHECO HERE, TÂM
. WE HAVE A QUORUM. GREAT THANK
YOU. SO OUR WITNESS ON THE PHONE
YOU MAY BEGIN IF YOU ARE HERE.
QUÊ MR MR CHAIRMAN AND
DISTINGUISHED MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE. MY NAME IS JAMIE
MCCONNELL, DEPUTY DIRECTOR AT
WOMEN'S VOICES FOR THE EARTH AND
NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION WITH
EXPERTISE IN MENSTRUAL PRODUCT
SAFETY AND PROVIDING THIS
TESTIMONY TODAY AND SUPPORT OF A
B 246. WE KNOW FROM PRODUCT
TESTING THAT MENTAL PRODUCTS DO
CONTAIN PSS, MEANING THAT USERS
OF THESE PRODUCTS ARE EXPOSED TO
PIECES FROM THEIR USE, AND THIS
EXPOSURE IS CONCERNING
SPECIFICALLY IN 2020 TESTING WAS
RELEASED THAT FOUND PREFACE AND
THINKS MENSTRUAL UNDERWEAR
NEWARK TESTING OF MULTIPLE
BRANDS OF PERIOD UNDERWEAR WAS
RELEASED IN 2021 FOUND 65% OF
THE PRODUCT TESTED. THEY'RE
POSITIVE FOR PEOPLE FAST. AND IN
2022 TESTING. ONE OF THEM WAS
RELEASED, FINDING PEOPLE IN BOTH
TAMPONS AND PADS. WELL WE
HAVEN'T IDENTIFIED ANY COMPANIES
CURRENTLY ADMITTING TO
INTENTIONALLY ADDING TO THEM AND
THEIR MENSTRUAL PRODUCTS. WE DO
KNOW FROM PATENT RESEARCH THAT
MANY COMPANIES HAVE CONSIDERED
PEOPLE PASS AS A USEFUL
ADDITIVES TO THESE PRODUCTS.
PATENT INFORMATION FROM
MENSTRUAL PRODUCT MANUFACTURERS
, INCLUDING PROCTER AND GAMBLE
AND KIMBERLY CLARK FOUND SEVERAL
PATENTS FILED WITH THE VAST USED
FOR VARIOUS FUNCTIONS IN
MENSTRUAL PRODUCTS. INCLUDING AS
A HYDROPHOBIC COATING ON THE
SURFACE OF THE PAD SO THAT ANY
STROKE FLUID IS DIRECTED TO
ABSORBENT LEE IS UNDERNEATH AND
AS A WATERPROOF COATING ON THE
BOTTOM BOTTOM OUTER LAYER TO
MAKE THE PRODUCT LEAKPROOF. IT'S
POSSIBLE THAT, IN SOME CASES
FAST HAS BEEN DETECTED IN
MENSTRUAL PRODUCTS, NOT BECAUSE
IT HAS BEEN INTENTIONALLY ADDED
BY THE MANUFACTURER, BUT IT'S
UNINTENTIONALLY IN THE PRODUCT
IN THESE CASES. THE MANUFACTURER
SHOULD STILL BE HELD RESPONSIBLE
FOR CONTAMINATION THAT MAY OCCUR
IN THE SUPPLY CHAIN
CONTAMINATION IS CONCERNING AS
EVEN LOW LEVELS COULD POSE A
HEALTH RISK PRODUCTS ARE IN THE
RECIPE FOR MANY PEOPLE EVERY
MONTH. THEY ARE NOT OPTIONAL
EXPOSURE AT ANY LEVEL SHOULD NOT
BE ALLOWED, PARTICULARLY IN
PRODUCTS WHO USE CANNOT BE
AVOIDED. A LAW AND ELIMINATING
THE USE OF THE MENSTRUAL
PRODUCTS IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE
KNOW FROM PATENT INFORMATION
COMPANIES ARE AT THE VERY LEAST
CONSIDERING USING THIS VERY
TOXIC CHEMICALS IN THEIR
PRODUCTS, EVEN IF NO COMPANIES
ARE INTENTIONALLY USING THEM.
NOW WE NEED A BAND TO PREVENT
OTHER COMPANIES INTRODUCING THEM
INTO THESE PRODUCTS IN THE
FUTURE. FOR THESE REASONS, I
URGE YOU FOR THESE REASONS WE
SUPPORT. YES I WILL SUPPORT 82
FOR SIX. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE MEMBERS OF
THE PUBLIC WISHING TO AND THEN
HAD THEIR SUPPORT TO THIS BILL,
PLEASE COME FORWARD TO THE
MICROPHONE, NAME AND
ORGANIZATION. HI ANDREA VENTURE
AGAIN AND RIGHT NOW I'M MAKING A
COMMENT FOR CLEAN WATER ACTION
AND RGC AND BREAST CANCER
PREVENTION PARTNERS WERE
ACTUALLY ON RECORD AS SUPPORT IF
AMENDED. THOSE AMENDMENTS DID,
UM, APPEAR IN THE BILL. UM IN
TERMS OF A THRESHOLD, SO WE DO
SUPPORT THIS BILL, THOUGH WE
WOULD STRONGLY RECOMMEND THAT A
THRESHOLD GO INTO EFFECT WHEN
THE BILL GOES INTO EFFECT IN
2025. EVEN IF IT'S AN INTERIM
ONE, BUT GENERALLY IN SUPPORT BY
THOSE THREE ORGANIZATIONS. ALL
RIGHT, THANK YOU. HI THERE. THIS
IS LAURA DE HIM WITH ENVIRONMENT
, CALIFORNIA AND SUPPORT AND
ALSO WANTED TO INDICATE SUPPORT
ON BEHALF OF CAL PERK TODAY.
BUTLER CALIFORNIANS AGAINST
WASTE IN SUPPORT FOR THE SAME
REASONS AS CLEAN WATER ACTION,
AND NRDC. THANK YOU. SUSAN
LITTLE WITH ENVIRONMENTAL
WORKING GROUP ALSO IN SUPPORT
AND JUST TO REITERATE CLEAN
WATER ACTIONS. COMMENTS. THANK
YOU. SEAN BARTHWELL ON BEHALF OF
CALIFORNIA COAST KEEPER ALLIANCE
IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL. GREAT
THANK YOU. NOW, DO WE HAVE ANY
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO
TESTIFY AND OPPOSITION? COME TO
THE MICROPHONE. NOW, IF YOU'RE
NOT POSITION SEEING NON PHONE
MODERATOR. DO WE HAVE ANY
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION TO A B 246? THANK
YOU, MR CHAIR FOR THOSE WHO WISH
TO SPEAK WITH REGARD TO THIS
BILL, PLEASE PRESS 1010 ONLY ONE
TIME AS YOU PRESS IN 10 2ND TIME
WILL REMOVE YOU FROM THE
COMMENTS KILLED. WE'RE GOING TO
GO FIRST TO LINE 83. YOUR LINE
IS NOW OPEN. 83 YEAR LINE IS
OPEN. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO
LINE 97. THAT'S ME. JOHN BUTTER
CLEANER. THREE KIDS THAT ARE
STRONGLY SUPPORT LINE 95. YOUR
LINE IS NOW OPEN. JORDAN WELLS
ON BEHALF OF THE NATIONAL
STEWARDSHIP, ACTION COUNSEL AND
SUPPORT THANK YOU. LINE 80. YOUR
LINE IS NOW OPEN. CATHERINE DOES
FAMILIES ADVOCATING FOR CHEMICAL
AND TOXIC SAFETY STRONGLY
SUPPORT. LINE 78. YOUR LINE IS
NOW OPEN. ALRIGHT PHILLIP VANDER
CLAY WITH THE LOS ANGELES COUNTY
SANITATION DISTRICTS AND SUPPORT
LINE 94. YOUR LINE IS NOW OPEN.
100 PURCELL WITH JONAS
PHILANTHROPY IS STRONGLY
SUPPORT. AND JUST A MOMENT.
WE'RE GOING TO GO NOW TO LINE 84
. YOUR LINE IS NOW OPEN. GOOD
AFTERNOON CHAIR AND MEMBERS ERIC
O'DONNELL ON BEHALF OF THE YOUR
BELINDA WATER DISTRICT IN
SUPPORT. LINE 100. YOUR LINE IS
NOW OPEN. HUME. CLEANERS FOR
KIDS .ORG STRONGLY SUPPORT. AND
MR CHAIR. THERE WAS NO ONE ELSE
WHO SIGNALED THAT THEY WISH TO
SPEAK. ALRIGHT THANK YOU. NOW
BRING IT BACK TO COMMITTEE ANY
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR SCHOOL
TOO SIMILAR, PACHECO. I HAD A
QUESTION ONLY BECAUSE THE
WITNESS ON THE ONLINE SAID
SOMETIMES, UH PEOPLE'S IS ADDED
IN AN INTENTIONALLY TO MENSTRUAL
PRODUCTS. IS THAT DID I HEAR
THAT CORRECTLY THAT SOMETIMES
IT'S ADDED AN INTENTIONALLY AND
NOT INTENTIONALLY. THAT IS
CORRECT. THAT IS CORRECT. AND SO
WHAT THE BILL DOES IS IT? UM IN
2027 2027 MANUFACTURERS BE
LIABLE FOR UNINTENTIONAL USE OF
PURPOSE AND FEMININE PROJECTS
PRODUCTS AS WELL. SO IT ALLOWS
SOME TIME FOR THE PHASE IN OF
THE UNINTENTIONAL PART OF IT.
OKAY, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW YEAH, I
AM BECAUSE THIS WOULD COVER
INTENTIONAL AND UNINTENTIONAL OR
IS THERE ALREADY? AGAINST A LOT
TO ADD INTENTIONAL GOING INTO
EFFECT, IT WOULD SOONER COVER
THE INTENTIONAL. AND THEN YOU
HAVE MORE TIME ON THE
UNINTENTIONAL PART OF IT JUST TO
LIKE, AND IT WOULD BE, UM AH.
WHAT WOULD IT WOULD PROHIBIT US
AS 10 10? PARTS PER MILLION. 10
PARTS PER MILLION FOR THE
UNINTENTIONAL GOING INTO EFFECT
IN 2027. THERE'S WASTED. I'M
ASSUMING THERE'S WAYS TO TEST TO
MAKE SURE THAT AND THAT'S THE
LOWEST THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY
TEST THE 10 PARTS PER MILLION,
SO HOPEFULLY GET IT ALL TRACES
OUT, BUT THIS ALLOWS SOME PHASE
IN TIME FOR THE UNINTENTIONAL
PART. GET AHOLD OF YOUR
PRODUCTS, TAKE A LOOK AT THEM
MANUFACTURERS AND LET'S GET IT
ALL OUT OF THERE. THANK YOU. ALL
RIGHT. DID I SEE ANOTHER
QUESTION AND COMMENT? ON THE
SIDE. NO. AH! OKAY ALRIGHT S
SOMEWHERE HAPPEN. WOULD YOU LIKE
TO CLOSE? THANK YOU. YES CHAIR.
WOMEN'S HEALTH MUST BE
PRIORITIZED OVER THE USE OF
THESE UNNECESSARY CHEMICALS.
IT'S PAST TIME TO PROTECT WOMEN
AND OUR ENVIRONMENT, AND I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN I VOTE
AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU
FOR BRINGING THIS BILL FORWARD
AND THANK YOU FOR WORKING WITH
THE ES TÌM STAFF ON THIS AS YOU
HEARD IN SOME OF THE TESTIMONY
THAT YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, MANY
MILLIONS OF MILLIONS OF
CALIFORNIANS RELY ON FEMININE
HYGIENE PRODUCTS, AND THEY WOULD
NOT LIKE TO FIND OUT THAT THERE
IS FOR EVERY CHEMICALS BEING ON
OR INSIDE THEIR BODIES WHEN THEY
SHOULDN'T BE THERE, SO I THINK
IT'S VERY SMART APPROACH TO ALSO
DELAY BETWEEN INTENTIONAL
UNINTENTIONAL DON'T WANT TO
STEAL FROM YOUR THUNDER, BUT YOU
KNOW, OBVIOUSLY TO SIMILAR
CHICO'S QUESTION IS THAT YOU
KNOW UP IN THE SUPPLY CHAIN.
WHEN YOU'RE CREATING DIFFERENT
PRODUCTS. SOMETIMES IT WILL
EXIST FURTHER UP THE SUPPLY
CHAINS. THAT COULD BE THE
UNINTENTIONAL ASPECT OF IT
BECAUSE IT'S JUST THESE
CHEMICALS ARE THERE EVERYWHERE
AND EVERYTHING, AND THEY'RE ALL
SORTS OF DIFFERENT PROCESSES IN
IT. BUT TO THAT POINT ABOUT NOT
WANTING CALIFORNIA'S BE SUBJECT
TO FURTHER CHEMICALS. I'M GLAD
YOU WORKED WITH US TO AT LEAST
HAVE A STARTING POINT FOR
ENFORCEMENT OF THIS BECAUSE WE
WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YES, WE
PASSED THESE LAWS BUT ALSO THAT
THEY'RE ENFORCED AND THAT
CALIFORNIA CONSUMER WITH ALL THE
CONFIDENCE IN THE WORLD AND GO
PICK UP THEIR PRODUCTS AND SAY,
WELL, THERE ISN'T GONNA BE ANY
OF THESE PRODUCTS IN THERE. WE
WANT TO ENFORCE THAT. SO I AM
GOING TO RECOMMEND AND I VOTE
BUT CAN I GET A MOTION? IN IN IN
A SECOND. MOVED FROM SELMA
MCKENNA SECONDED BY MR MCANALLY
AND I AM RECOMMITTING. AN AYE
VOTE, AND THIS MOTION IS DO PASS
THE PREPARATIONS. UM METAL
SECTOR. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
THIS IS ITEM NUMBER THREE A. B 2
46 POPPING. THE MOTION IS DO
PASS AND RE REFERRED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS. LI
I. HOOVER HOOVER, I ARAMBULA
BAUER-KAHAN CONNOLLY. CONNOLLY.
I MAKIN ER. MCKENNA, I, PACHECO
PROJECT I TA ZABAR. WE HAVE FIVE
VOTES THAT PASSES. THAT'S FIVE
VOTES THAT PASSES.
CONGRATULATIONS SIMILAR POPPING.
I KNOW YOU HAVE ASSEMBLY BILL 7
57 56 ITEM FOUR. SO YOU MAY
PRESENT THAT BILL WHEN YOU'RE
READY. THANK YOU SO MUCH CHAIR
AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR
EXPLANATION OF UP THE FOOD
CHAIN. APPRECIATE THAT OUR
SUPPLY CHAIN. OKAY SO. A B 756
WILL REQUIRE THE DEPARTMENT OF
TRANSPORTATION TO DEVELOP AND
IMPLEMENT A STRATEGY TO
ELIMINATE A TOXIC ADDITIVE FOUND
IN VEHICLE TIRES KNOWN AS SIX
PPD FROM STORMWATER DISCHARGE
FLOWING INTO SALMON BEARING
SURFACE WATERS. SIX P P D DASH
QUE HAS BEEN MEASURED IN
CALIFORNIA STREAMS AT
CONCENTRATIONS ABOVE THOSE SHOWN
TO KILL AT LEAST HALF OF COHO
SALMON IN LABORATORY
EXPERIMENTS. FORTUNATELY BIO
FILTRATION AND BIO RETENTION
SYSTEMS, WHICH ARE READILY
AVAILABLE. STORMWATER MANAGEMENT
PRACTICES EFFECTIVELY TREAT THE
RUNOFF OF SIX PPD IN TERMS OF
ABOUT TOXIC CHEMICAL EXPOSURE,
AND SALMON SPAWN, ER, SURVIVAL.
A B 756 WILL DIRECT THE
DEPARTMENT TO IDENTIFY LOCATIONS
WHERE HIGHWAYS, CROSS SALMON AND
STEELHEAD BEARING WATERS.
ADDITIONALLY THIS MEASURE WILL
DIRECT CALTRANS TO STUDY THE
FEASIBILITY AND COST
EFFECTIVENESS OF INSTALLING AND
MAINTAINING BARROW RETENTION AND
BIO FILTRATION SYSTEMS THROUGH A
PRIVATE PROGRAM IN SAN MATEO
COUNTY TO BUILD A STRONG, SAFE
AND SUSTAINABLE FUTURE. FOR
CALIFORNIA. WE MUST TAKE ACTION
AND PRESERVE THE HEALTH AND
SAFETY OF OUR AQUATIC
ECOSYSTEMS. WITH ME TODAY TO
TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OF THIS BILL
IS MR SEAN BOTHWELL, EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR OF THE CALIFORNIA COAST
KEEPER ALLIANCE, AND MATT
CLIFFORD ON BEHALF OF TROUT
UNLIMITED. THANK YOU. FOUR
MINUTES BETWEEN THE BOTH OF YOU.
SO MAYBE WE'RE READY. THANK YOU.
CHAIR LEE. SEAN BOTHWELL,
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR CAPTAIN
COAST KEEPER ALLIANCE. SO THIS
ISSUE OF SIX PPD IS AN EMERGING
ISSUE, BUT THE SCIENCE AND THE
RESEARCH BEHIND THE PROBLEM
ACTUALLY ISN'T ISN'T NEW AT ALL.
IN THE EIGHTIES AND NINETIES,
SCIENTISTS, PARTICULARLY IN
WASHINGTON, STARTED TO REALIZE
THAT SALMON AND STEELHEAD
STARTING TO ACT FUNNY THERE WAS
DIE OFFS DURING RAIN EVENTS.
THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHY, BUT THEY
WERE WITNESSING THAT IN 2002,
THEY'D START DOING EXPERIMENTING
. IF STREAM RESTORATION WOULD,
UM, ACCOUNT FOR THIS AND FIX THE
PROBLEM, AND THERE WAS NO EFFECT
, THE SALMON WAS STILL HAVING
ISSUES WHEN IT WAS RAINING. IN
2008 WAS THE FIRST TIME THEY
STARTED LINKING THIS PROBLEM TO
STORMWATER, BUT THEY HAD NO IDEA
WHAT THE POLLUTANT WAS IN
STORMWATER TO CAUSE THE THIS DIE
OFF. THEN THEY IN 2015 NARROWED
IT DOWN THAT THEY REALIZED IT
WAS COMING FROM STREETS AND CARS
. BUT AGAIN, THEY DIDN'T KNOW
WHERE YOU KNOW WHERE FROM CARS.
THE PROBLEM WAS COMING FROM, AND
THEN ONLY IN 2020. DID THEY
REALIZE THAT THIS CHEMICAL SIX
PPD THAT'S FOUND IN TIRES WAS
THE PROBLEM THAT WAS CAUSING THE
COHO MORTALITY DIE OFF IN OUR
STREAMS. SO WITH THIS BILL DOES
IS IT COMMITS CALTRANS TO FIRST
STUDY THE MOST COST EFFECTIVE
WAYS TO CONTROL SIX PPD FROM
GOING TO THE ENVIRONMENT? I
THINK THE SCIENCE IS PRETTY WELL
ESTABLISHED THAT BIO FILTRATION
BY RETENTION IS THE BEST WAY TO
ADDRESS THIS CHEMICAL. BUT THERE
ARE DIFFERENT. THERE'S DIFFERENT
WAYS TO DO IT. THAT CAN BE MORE
COST EFFECTIVE FOR CALTRANS, AND
THEN IT PUTS CULTURE ENDS ON IT
ON A PATH FORWARD TO ADDRESS ALL
THEIR DISCHARGES OF THIS HIGHLY
TOXIC SUBSTANCE BY 2037, WHICH
WE THINK IS A REASONABLE
TIMEFRAME FOR THEM TO ADDRESS
THE ISSUE. THE MOST EXCITING
PART ABOUT THIS BILL IS THE
REQUIREMENT FOR BIO FILTRATION.
BIO ATTENTION AT CALTRANS WON'T
JUST IMPACT. SIX PPD. IT WON'T
JUST ADDRESS SIX PPD. IT'S GONNA
DRESS, A LOT OF CHEMICALS AND A
LOT OF POLLUTANTS THAT ARE
COMING OFF OUR ROADS IN
PARTICULARLY CALTRANS, AND
PARTICULARLY MICROPLASTICS,
WHICH I KNOW THIS COMMITTEE IN
PAST YEARS HAS HAD EXTENSIVE
DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE BEST WAY
TO TREAT MICROPLASTICS. BIO
FILTRATION FROM OUR ROADS IS THE
NUMBER ONE WAY TO DO IT BECAUSE
MICROPLASTICS ARE COMING
MAJORITY LITERALLY FROM OUR
ROADS AND HIGHWAYS. SO THAT'S
WHY WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THIS
BILL DOESN'T JUST ADDRESS SIX
PPD. BUT ALL ALL THE POLLUTANTS
THAT ARE COMING OFF CALTRANS AND
WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO
CHILDREN A MINUTE, MR. CHAIR
MEMBERS I MET CLIFFORD WITH
TROUT UNLIMITED WERE NATIONALS.
NONPROFITS COLD WATER, FISHERY
COVERS CONSERVATION. I JUST WANT
TO SAY THAT WHEN WAS THIS WAS
FINALLY DISCOVERED TWO YEARS
AGO, THE ACUTE TOXICITY OF SIX
PP. TWO CO SALMON IN PARTICULAR.
IT REALLY SENDS SHOCKWAVES THAN
WHAT ORGANIZATION SOMETHING
WE'VE BEEN FOLLOWING NATIONALLY
VERY CLOSELY. WHAT I WANT TO SAY
TO YOU TODAY REALLY BOILS DOWN
TO TWO BASIC THINGS AND ONE IS
THERE SUCH AMENDED AMOUNT? WE
DON'T KNOW. RIGHT NOW. ABOUT SIX
P P. D. AND SECOND. WHAT WE DO
KNOW IS HIGHLY ALARMING. OKAY.
WE KNOW THERE IS ACUTELY TOXIC.
ESPECIALLY THE COAST SEVEN BUT
ALSO THE OTHER NATIONS. NATIVE
SPECIES, RAINBOW TROUT, CHINOOK
. OTHER FISH AS WELL LIKELY
LIKELY ALSO HAS SUB LETHAL
EFFECTS. HOW BETTER THESE
EFFECTS? WE DON'T KNOW. IT'S
ALMOST CERTAINLY HARMFUL TO
OTHER ORGANISMS AS WELL. WHICH
ONES AND HOW MUCH WE AGAIN WE?
WE REALLY JUST DON'T KNOW AT
THIS POINT. WHAT WE DO KNOW
ABOUT SIX P. P D S. THERE IS
EXTREMELY WIDESPREAD AND
PERVASIVE IN THE ENVIRONMENT. IT
CONTAINED IN ESSENTIALLY EVERY
TIRE IN THE NATION. THERE ARE
TENS OF MILLIONS OF TIRES ON THE
ROAD IN CALIFORNIA ALONE, AND
THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF MILES OF
PAVED ROADS IN THE STATE, YOU
KNOW ALONG STREAMS, LAKES,
RIVERS, ESTUARIES. THAT'S WHERE
THE LARGEST BUSY ROADS TEND TO
BE RIGHT. AND WE KNOW THAT
RUNOFF EVERY YEAR IS REACHING,
YOU KNOW GOOD. YOU MENTIONED
ABOUT THE RUNOFF THAT LACED WITH
THE X P D. SIX PEOPLE. YOU ARE
REACHING THESE WATERS FROM THESE
ROADS. AND SO THERE'S EVERY
REASON TO THINK THIS COULD BE A
TREMENDOUS UNSEEN PROBLEM THAT
WE JUST DON'T HAVE A HANDLE ON
AND FROM OUR STANDPOINT. WHAT WE
REALLY NEED MORE THAN ANYTHING
RIGHT NOW, AS WE NEED
INFORMATION WE DIDN'T GET OUR
BRAINS ARE AND HOW BIG GET MORE
DOLLARS. HOW BIG IS THE SCOPE OF
THIS PROBLEM IS AND TO US. I
MEAN, THAT'S ONE OF THE BEST
ASPECTS OF THIS BILL. IF NOTHING
ELSE, IT REALLY PROVIDES A LINK
TO GET THAT KNOWLEDGE AND GIVE
OURSELVES A SENSE OF THE SCOPE
OF THIS PROBLEM. AND IF YOU DID
NOTHING ELSE, I THINK THAT WOULD
BE TREMENDOUSLY VALUABLE THING I
JUST WANT TO CLOSING, SAY
THERE'S ACTUALLY REALLY A
HOPEFUL ASPECT OF THIS WHOLE
STORY. YOU KNOW, IT'S OBVIOUSLY
VERY TOXIC, BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF
PLACES IN CALIFORNIA. ELSEWHERE
WE HAVE ACTUALLY HAD PRETTY GOOD
HABITAT CONDITIONS. WE'VE
INVESTED MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN
SOME PLACES AND RESTORATION AND
BRINGING ABOUT GOOD HABITAT
CONDITIONS. WE'RE STILL SEEING
DECLINE IN OUR FISHERY
POPULATIONS WERE STILL NOT
SEEING THE RESPONSE. WE WANT TO
SEE. THINGS LIKE THIS COULD BE
THE MISSING LINK. THAT REALLY
HELPS US EXPLAIN SOME OF THOSE
PROBLEMS. I STARTED TO GET A
HANDLE ON IT. BUT AGAIN, THE
FIRST STEP IS KNOWLEDGE. AND FOR
THAT REASON WE REALLY STRONGLY
SUPPORT THIS BILL UP URGING TO
VOTE. YES, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU. VERY MEMBERS OF THE
PUBLIC IN THE HEARING ROOM WISH
TO ADD THEIR NAME AND SUPPORT.
PLEASE NAME AND ORGANIZATION. TO
FORCE THE MIC, MR CHAIR MEMBERS,
JUSTIN MILLER ON BEHALF OF HEAL
THE BAY IN STRONG SUPPORT.
ANDREA VENTURA WITH CLEAN WATER
ACTION AND STRONG SUPPORT.
ALREADY HERE IN WITH
ENVIRONMENT, CALIFORNIA IN
STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU NOW,
DO WE HAVE ANY WITNESSES AND
OPPOSITION? TO THE BILL. PLEASE
COME FORWARD. SAYING NONE PHONE
MODERATOR. DO WE HAVE ANY
WITNESSES? UH IN OPPOSITION OR
SUPPORTS ON THE PHONE LINES.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU
WISH TO COMMENT, PLEASE PRESS
ONE, THEN ZERO AT THIS TIME,
PLEASE REMEMBER TO ONLY PRESS
THE NUMBERS ONCE. AH OR YOU MAY
BE REMOVED FROM QUÊ ONCE AGAIN
IF YOU WISH TO COME, PLEASE
PRESS ONE, DÂN ZERO AT THIS
TIME. MR CHAIR AT THIS TIME WE
HAVE NOBODY QUEUING UP FOR
COMMENTS. ALRIGHT NOW BRING IT
BACK TO COMMITTEE. DO WE HAVE
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM
COMMITTEE MEMBERS, MR CONNELLY?
YEAH I'LL JUST ASK A QUICK
QUESTION. I APPRECIATE THE ODD
THEY'RE BRINGING THIS FORWARD.
SO IN THE CONVERSATION, WE JUST
SAT AROUND P FAST. WE SAW THAT
THE APPROACH WAS TO BAN THE
CHEMICAL OR A PHASE IT OUT OVER
TIME. IT APPEARS THIS APPROACH,
AT LEAST NOW IS TO CONTAIN IT.
UM THROUGH VARIOUS, UH,
SCIENTIFIC MEANS. IS SIX P P D.
WHAT IS THE STATUS OF THAT? IT
SOUNDS LIKE IT'S WIDESPREAD TO
PUT IT MILDLY, BUT IS IT
INTEGRAL TO THE MANUFACTURE OF
TIRES OR WHAT ARE THE OPTIONS?
WHERE ARE WE GOING WITH THIS IN
THE LONG ROAD? GIVE IT A SHOT,
SEAN, SO DEPARTMENT OF TOXIC
SUBSTANCE CONTROL IS LOOKING
INTO THIS NOW TO SEE IF THERE'S
A WAY TO BAN THE PRODUCT. I
THINK THE SHORT ANSWER IS THEY
DON'T KNOW THEY'RE LOOKING INTO
IT. UM THEY DON'T KNOW WHETHER
THEY CAN MAKE TIRES WITHOUT THIS
SUBSTANCE, BUT I THINK THE
BIGGER PROBLEM IS, LET'S SAY WE
CAN REMOVE SIX PPD. WHAT IS THE
CHEMICAL THAT'S GOING TO REPLACE
IT? THE REASON FOR SIX PP. JUST
SO YOU KNOW IS IT PREVENTS THE
TARA FROM BREAKING DOWN WHEN IT
HIT SUNLIGHT BASICALLY. UM AND
SO THERE'S NEEDS TO BE SOME TYPE
OF CHEMICAL TO KEEP THAT
COMPONENT TOGETHER. AND SO THERE
IS A CONCERN OF WHAT THAT
REPLACEMENT CHEMICAL WILL BE,
EVEN IF WE CAN TAKE SIX PPD OUT
OF TIRES. THE OTHER ISSUE WITH
THIS BILL OF BAND VERSE KIND OF
CONTROL IS DTSC CAN ONLY DO SO
MUCH. WE CAN'T BAN TIRES FROM
OUT OF STATE. WE CAN'T WE CAN'T
BAN EXISTING TIRES THAT ARE ON
SALE NOW CARS THAT ARE SOLD
OUTSIDE OF THE STATE THAT COME
INTO THE STATE. THEY'RE STILL
GOING TO BE A LOT OF TIRES ON
THIS ON OUR HIGHWAYS THAT EVEN
IF DTSC WORD TO BAN THE PRODUCT
FOR THE SALE AND MANUFACTURE OF
IT. IN CALIFORNIA. THERE'S STILL
GONNA BE TIRES ON THE ROAD THAT
ARE GOING TO HAVE THIS AND
THERE'S EXISTING TIRES OUT THERE
RIGHT NOW THAT I HAVE HAD THE
PROBLEM BUT TO ANSWER YOUR
QUESTION, SPECIFICALLY, IT'S
UNKNOWN. WHETHER WE CAN WE CAN
BAN IT ALTOGETHER YET. ALL
RIGHT. THANK YOU ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF NOT,
IT'S ONLY A PROBLEM. WOULD YOU
LIKE TO CLOSE? YES, THANK YOU.
CHAIR. WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I
WANT TO THANK THESE WITNESSES,
BOTH FOR THEIR PASSION AND THEIR
KNOWLEDGE AND THEIR SIMPLICITY
AND DESCRIPTION. THEY DON'T ALL
THREE ARE FOUND. YOU'RE NOT ALL
THREE ARE ALWAYS FOUND TOGETHER,
SO I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE
I'M SO APPRECIATIVE OF YOU FOR
BEING HERE AND FOR BRINGING YOUR
YOUR INTELLECT AND PASSION. UH
WE MUST ELIMINATE THESE TOXIC
NON NANOPARTICLES AND KEEP THEM
FROM POLLUTING OUR RIVERS AND
POISONING OUR SALMON. REMOVING
SIX PPT IS ONE STEP TOWARDS
PRESERVING THE INTEGRITY,
STABILITY AND BEAUTY. OF
CALIFORNIA'S WATER CYCLE. I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR MY VOTE.
AGAIN THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THE
BALL FORWARD, AND I APPRECIATE
THE CONVERSATION WE HAD ABOUT
THIS BILL, ALTHOUGH BRIEFLY, I
AM RECOMMENDING AN AYE. VOTE ON
THE SPILL AND DO HAVE EMOTION. A
SECOND. MOVED IN SECONDED UM.
AND THE MOTIONS DO PASS THE
ASSEMBLY APPROPRIATIONS
COMMITTEE. MADAM SPEAKER, PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL. ITEM NUMBER FOUR
A. B 7 56 PAP IN THE MOTION IS
DO PASS AND RE REFERRED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS.
LEE. LEE I. HOOVER HOOVER, NOT
VOTING ARAMBULA BAUER-KAHAN
CONNOLLY. CONNOLLY I MAKIN ER
MCKENNA I PACHECO PACHECO, I
TALK ZINBERG PUT THAT ON CALL
BILL BEYOND CALL. THANK YOU SO
MUCH. AND NEXT, WE CAN MOVE OVER
TO FILE ITEMS 6 84 18 BY
SOMEWHERE GABRIEL ON FOOD
PRODUCT SAFETY. WHENEVER HE IS
READY. IF HE IS.
THANK YOU, MR CHAIR AND MEMBERS
. UH GLAD TO BE HERE TODAY TO
PRESENTING ASSEMBLY. BILL 418
WANT TO START BY THANKING THE
COMMITTEE FOR THEIR THOUGHTFUL
HELP AND ASSISTANCE AND WE WILL
CERTAINLY BE ACCEPTING THE
AMENDMENTS TODAY. UM JUST WANTED
TO, UH, APPRECIATE ALL OF ALL OF
THE FOLKS WHO HAVE REACHED OUT
AND SPOKEN WITH US ABOUT THIS
BILL. THE BILL THE BILL. THE
GOAL OF THIS BILL IS VERY
SIMPLE. WHICH IS TO PROTECT KIDS
AND FAMILIES AND CONSUMERS IN
THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA FROM
SOME VERY TOXIC AND DANGEROUS
CHEMICALS THAT SPECIFICALLY
FOCUSES ON FIVE CHEMICALS FOUND
IN OUR FOOD SUPPLY THAT ARE
BANNED IN THE EUROPEAN UNION IN
THE 27 NATIONS IN THE EUROPEAN
UNION, BUT ALSO IN MANY OTHER
JURISDICTIONS AROUND THE WORLD.
MANY OF THESE CHEMICALS,
INCLUDING THE UK, CANADA, BRAZIL
, INDIA, CHINA AND MANY OTHER
PLACES WHERE THEY HAVE LOOKED AT
THE WELL DOCUMENTED EVIDENCE,
THE STRONG SCIENCE LINKING THESE
CHEMICALS TO REPRODUCTIVE HARM.
TO CANCER TO BEHAVIOR AND
DEVELOPMENTAL ISSUES IN KIDS AND
DECIDED THAT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO
TAKE ACTION TO PROTECT CONSUMERS
AND TO PROTECT YOUNG PEOPLE IN
THOSE COUNTRIES. WHAT ELSE IS
SIGNIFICANT ABOUT THESE
CHEMICALS IS THAT MANY MAJOR
BRANDS AND COMPANIES IN CHAINS
IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
HAVE MOVED AWAY BECAUSE OF THE
EVIDENCE OF HARM COKE, PEPSI AND
GATORADE NO LONGER USE THESE
CHEMICALS. PAPA JOHN'S PANERA
DUNCAN DONUTS WHOLE FOODS,
KROGER WILL NOT SELL MANY
PRODUCTS CONTAINING THESE
CHEMICALS. SO YOU HAVE ACTUALLY
SEEN A LOT OF RESPONSIBLE ACTOR.
HERS IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR, SOME
OF THE BIGGEST CORPORATIONS IN
AMERICA THAT HAVE MOVED AWAY
FROM USING THESE CHEMICALS
BECAUSE THEY UNDERSTAND THAT
THERE ARE CONSEQUENCES,
PARTICULARLY FOR YOUNG PEOPLE.
NOW, LET ME BE CLEAR ABOUT ONE
THING. I KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN
A LOT OF CONVERSATION, UH AROUND
POTENTIALLY BANNING FOOD ITEMS
AND SKITTLES IN PARTICULAR. THIS
BILL WILL NOT BE AN ANY FOOD
ITEMS. IT'S NOT GOING TO PULL
ANY PRODUCTS OFF THE SHELF. I
ACTUALLY A NUMBER OF OUR
COLLEAGUES WHO WERE TRAVELING IN
EUROPE OVER THE BREAK BROUGHT ME
BACK SKITTLES FROM FRANCE AND
FROM DENMARK AND FROM OTHER
PLACES TO SHOW ME THAT, IN FACT
, THESE BRANDS ARE STILL ALIVE
AND WELL IN THESE OTHER
COUNTRIES. WHAT WHAT THIS BILL
AIMS TO DO IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY
HAVE DONE IN THOSE OTHER
COUNTRIES, WHICH IS TO ENCOURAGE
THESE COMPANIES TO MAKE MINOR
MODIFICATIONS TO THEIR RECIPES,
IN MOST CASES, IS TAKING OUT ONE
INGREDIENT OR SUBSTITUTING ONE
INGREDIENT FOR SOMETHING THAT
HAS WELL DOCUMENTED, MENTORED
EVIDENCE OF HARM FOR SOMETHING
THAT IS SAFE FOR FOLKS. AND JUST
TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF ALL OF
THIS WHEN WE LOOKED AT THIS, THE
REASON THAT WE ARRIVED AT THESE
FIVE PARTICULAR CHEMICALS IS
BECAUSE OF THE STRONG SCIENCE
BUT ALSO BECAUSE FOR EACH OF
THESE THAT THERE WERE READILY
AVAILABLE ALTERNATIVES, OFTEN
WHICH WERE CHEAPER AND WE HAD A
LONG CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS IN
THE HEALTH COMMITTEE, AND THE
HEALTH COMMITTEE ANALYSIS WENT
THROUGH FOR EACH OF THESE
CHEMICALS. WHAT THE RENTAL WHAT
THE ALTERNATIVES WOULD BE THAT
WOULD ACCOMPLISH THE SAME GOALS.
AND THE FACT THAT NONE OF THOSE
WERE GOING TO PUT ANY OF THESE
COMPANIES OUT OF BUSINESS IS OR
RAISE PRICES OR BURDEN CONSUMERS
OR DO ANY OF THOSE THINGS. A
FINAL POINT HERE TO UNDERSTAND.
SO WHEN I LOOKED AT THIS, AND
THIS WAS FIRST BROUGHT TO ME,
YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS ASSUMED AS A
PARENT. I CAN'T PULL A PACK OF
SKITTLES OFF THE SHELF AND I
ACTUALLY LOVE SKITTLES. I LOVE
WILD BERRY SKITTLES, BUT I CAN'T
PULL A PACK OF SKITTLES OFF THE
SHELF. READ THE WORDS TITANIUM
DIOXIDE AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT
MEANS. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER OR
NOT THAT'S HARMFUL TO ME AND MY
KIDS. AND SO WHAT I ASSUME IS
THAT THERE IS SOMEBODY OUT THERE
WATCHING MY BACK AND IDEALLY
ASSUMING THAT THAT THAT WOULD BE
THE FDA, THE FOOD AND DRUG
ADMINISTRATION. AND WHAT I HAVE
LEARNED SINCE BECAUSE OVER THE
LAST SEVERAL MONTHS SINCE
BECOMING ENGAGED ON THIS ISSUE
IS THAT WE HAVE A FUNDAMENTAL
FLAW IN THE FDA PROCESS, WHICH
ACTUALLY THINK IS THE REAL STORY
HERE AND APPROXIMATELY 99% OF
THE CHEMICALS THAT ARE PUT INTO
OUR FOOD GO THROUGH SOMETHING
CALLED THE GRASS LOOPHOLE THE
GENERALLY RECOGNIZED AS SAFE
LOOPHOLE SO THAT THEY HAVE NO
MEANINGFUL INDEPENDENT REVIEW BY
THE FDA. WHAT WE ESSENTIALLY
HAVE IS CHEMICAL COMPANIES THAT
ARE GRADING THEIR OWN HOMEWORK,
AND THAT TO ME, THAT'S WHEN IT
FINALLY CLICKED. THAT'S WHY THE
UNITED STATES IS SO FAR BEHIND
ALL OF THESE OTHER KIND. TREES,
AND THAT'S THE UNITED STATES HAS
ACTUALLY SO FAR BEHIND ALL OF
THESE RESPONSIBLE ACTORS IN THE
PRIVATE SECTOR WHO HAVE
VOLUNTARILY TAKEN THESE
CHEMICALS OUT OF THEIR PRODUCTS
AND JUST TO DEMONSTRATE YOU HOW
HOW ABSURD. THE RESULTS ARE RED
DYE. 31 OF THESE CHEMICALS HAS
BEEN BANNED IN THE USE OF
COSMETICS SINCE 1990. THE FDA
SAID IN 1990. THIS IS TOO
DANGEROUS FOR PEOPLE TO PUT ON
THEIR SKIN. AND YET MORE THAN
THREE DECADES LATER, IT IS STILL
ALLOWED IN OUR FOOD, AND I THINK
WHEN PEOPLE UNDERSTAND HOW
ABSURD THE RESULTS ARE THE FACT
THAT ALL OF THESE OTHER
COUNTRIES ALL OF THESE MAJOR
BRANDS, ALL OF THESE GROCERY
STORES ARE MOVING IN ONE
DIRECTION. I THINK IT MAKES
SENSE WHEN WE UNFORTUNATELY HAVE
HAD A LACK OF ACTION IN
WASHINGTON, D. C THAT WE IN
CALIFORNIA HAVE TO STEP UP. AND
TAKE ACTION TO PROTECT OUR KIDS
AND TO PROTECT OUR FAMILIES SO
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION WITH
ME TODAY ARE BRIAN RUN HOME, THE
DIRECTOR OF FOOD POLICY FROM
CONSUMER REPORTS, AND MELANIE
BURNISH EGYPT, THE ENVIRONMENTAL
WORKING GROUP'S VICE PRESIDENT
FOR GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS. THANK
YOU AND WOULD RESPECTFULLY
REQUEST YOUR I VOTE. ALL RIGHT.
GO AHEAD. FOUR MINUTES BETWEEN
BOTH OF THE WITNESSES. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU, MR CHAIRMAN.
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. I'M
BRIAN RON HOME. I'M DIRECTOR OF
FOOD POLICY FOR CONSUMER REPORTS
AND INDEPENDENT NONPROFIT THAT
WORKS WITH CONSUMERS FOR TO
CREATE A FAIR MARKETPLACE. SO I
APPEARED TODAY ON BEHALF OF
SEVERAL HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF
CONSUMER REPORTS MEMBERS IN
CALIFORNIA WHO ARE VERY WORRIED
ABOUT TOXIC CHEMICALS. IN FOOD.
IN FACT, THEY'RE OFTEN MORE
WORRIED ABOUT THESE CHEMICALS IN
FOOD THAN THEY ARE WITH THREATS
THAT ARE MORE IMMINENT LIKE
SEQUELAE AT SEMINAL AND
LISTERIA. SO OUR MEMBERS ARE
URGING IMMEDIATE ACTION TO
PROHIBIT THE USE OF THESE
CHEMICALS AND RESPONDING THROUGH
MOBILIZATION ACTIVITIES THAT ARE
DIRECTED AT FDA AND FEDERAL
STATE POLICYMAKERS. THEY SEE
THESE CHEMICALS BANNED IN THE EU
AS MR GABRIEL MENTIONED AND
ELSEWHERE IN THE WORLD, AND THEY
QUESTIONED WHY FDA STILL ALLOWS
IT IN FOOD PRODUCTS, ESPECIALLY
CONSIDERING, AS MR GABRIEL
POINTED OUT AS WELL AND READILY
AVAILABLE ALTERNATIVES THAT ARE
MORE COST EFFECTIVE. AND MANY OF
THESE PRODUCTS ARE MARKETED TO
CHILDREN, INCLUDING CANDY AND
JUNK FOOD, SO IT'S BEYOND TIME
TO GET THESE UNNECESSARY,
DANGEROUS ADDITIVES OUT OF OUR
FOOD SUPPLY, AND DESPITE THE
SERIOUS AND WELL DOCUMENTED
RISKS POSED TO OUR HEALTH BY
THESE FIVE CHEMICALS, THE FDA
CONTINUES TO FAIL TO ACT TO
PROTECT PUBLIC HEALTH, SO MAYBE
4 18 WOULD REPRESENT AN
IMPORTANT FIRST STEP IN REMOVING
THESE HARMFUL CHEMICALS. FROM
PROCESSED FOOD. AT A TIME WHEN
THE FDA IS WEAK OVERSIGHT HAS
PRINTED PREVENTED IT FROM TAKING
ACTION. IT'S CRITICAL FOR STATES
LIKE CALIFORNIA TO TAKE THE LEAD
AND MOVE AWAY FROM THESE TOXIC
FOOD, CHEMICALS AND THANK YOU
VERY MUCH TURNOVER TO MORNING.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO TESTIFY AND
STRONG SUPPORT OF ABBY FOR 18
TODAY. MY NAME IS MELANIE
BENESCH AND I AM AN ATTORNEY AND
THE VICE PRESIDENT FOR
GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS AT THE
ENVIRONMENTAL WORKING GROUP, A
CO SPONSOR OF THIS BILL. THE
FOOD AND DRUG ADMINISTRATION
PROCESS FOR REVIEWING THE FOOD
CHEMICALS THAT WE EAT EVERY DAY
IS DEEPLY BROKEN. AND THAT'S WHY
IT'S UP TO STATES LIKE
CALIFORNIA TO ADDRESS THE WORST
OF THE WORST CHEMICALS IN THE
FOOD SUPPLY, LIKE THE FIVE
CHEMICALS COVERED BY ABBY FOR 18
, ALL OF WHICH HAVE BEEN BANNED
IN EUROPE. THE FDA HAS FAILED TO
ENSURE THAT THE FOOD CHEMICALS
THAT WE EAT EVERY DAY AND THAT
WE FEED TO OUR FAMILIES ARE
SAFE. AS THE ASSEMBLY MEMBER
MENTIONED. TODAY NEARLY 99% OF
NEW FOOD CHEMICALS THAT COME
ONTO THE MARKET. ARE ASSESSED BY
FOOD, CHEMICAL COMPANIES AND
CHEMICAL COMPANIES. FOR SAFETY,
NOT THE FDA. AND IN FACT, EVEN
WHEN CHEMICALS DO GO THROUGH THE
FDA APPROVAL PROCESS. THERE'S NO
REQUIREMENT THAT THE FDA
PERIODICALLY REASSESS THOSE
CHEMICALS FOR SAFETY. EVEN WHEN
NEW SCIENCE IDENTIFIES SERIOUS
HEALTH HARMS AND AS A RESULT,
MANY CHEMICALS, INCLUDING THE
CHEMICALS THAT ARE COVERED BY 84
18 HAVE NOT BEEN REASSESSED FOR
SAFETY AND DECADES EVEN WHEN I
DID WHEN SERIOUS RISKS HAVE BEEN
IDENTIFIED. THE FIVE CHEMICALS
IN 84 18 DO POSE SIGNIFICANT
HEALTH RISKS, AND THEY HAVE NO
PLACE IN OUR FOOD SUPPLY.
POTASSIUM BROMATE LINKED TO
CANCER HAS NOT BEEN REASSESSED
SINCE THE SEVENTIES. PURPLE
PARABEN, WHICH CAN CAUSE HARM TO
THE ENDOCRINE SYSTEM IN THE
REPRODUCTIVE SYSTEM ALSO HAS NOT
BEEN REASSESSED BY THE FDA SINCE
THE SEVENTIES. THE FDA HAS KNOWN
THAT RED DYE NUMBER THREE IS A
CARCINOGEN SINCE 1990 PLEDGED AT
THE TIME TO ADDRESS IT IN FOOD.
AND YET, 30 YEARS LATER, IT IS
STILL IN THOUSANDS OF FOODS THAT
YOU CAN BUY ON THE SHELVES
TODAY. AND HAS NOT BEEN BANNED.
TITANIUM DIOXIDE WAS BANNED BY
THE EU LAST YEAR OVER CONCERNS
OF GINO SIXTUS CITY OR DNA
DAMAGE. BUT HAS NOT BEEN
REVIEWED BY THE FDA AND MORE
THAN A DECADE AND IS STILL FOUND
IN MANY FOODS TODAY, INCLUDING
FOODS MARKETED TO CHILDREN. BBO
WHICH CAUSES HARM TO THE THYROID
AND NERVOUS SYSTEM HAS NEVER
BEEN ALLOWED IN THE U. BUT
REMAINS IN STORE BRAND SODAS AND
SPORTS SPRING STOLE ACROSS THE
COUNTRY TODAY. THESE HARMFUL
CHEMICAL EXPOSURES ARE ALSO
COMPLETELY UNNECESSARY. COST
EFFECTIVE ALTERNATIVES FOR THESE
CHEMICALS ARE AVAILABLE. AND
BRANDS USES ALTERNATIVES TO SELL
THEIR PRODUCTS. SAFER VERSIONS
OF THESE PRODUCTS IN EUROPE,
WHERE THE PRODUCTS ARE NEARLY
IDENTICAL TO THEIR AMERICAN
COUNTERPARTS IN TASTE AND WORK
SHOWING THAT YOU CAN HAVE THE
FOODS THAT YOU LOVE WITHOUT THE
CHEMICALS THAT YOU HATE.
UNFORTUNATELY THE FDA HAS SHOWN
TIME AND TIME AGAIN THAT IT IS
NOT GOING TO TAKE THE ACTION
NEEDED TO ENSURE THAT OUR FOOD
CHEMICALS ARE SAFE. AND THAT'S
WHY IT'S REALLY UP TO CALIFORNIA
AND THE LEADERSHIP OF CALIFORNIA
TO MAKE SURE THAT CALIFORNIANS
AND AMERICANS ARE SAFE. AND SO I
URGE YOU TO VOTE I AND SUPPORTED
THIS BILL. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT
. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO
ADD THEIR SUPPORT? TO THE SPILL.
PLEASE COME UP TO THE
MICROPHONE. MR CHAIR MEMBERS
THIS TIME JUSTIN MYLAN FOR THE
ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH
ADMINISTRATORS IN SUPPORT.
MELISSA'S A GUN ON BEHALF OF THE
PESTICIDE ACTION NETWORK AND
SUPPORT THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
NOW I UNDERSTAND. WE HAVE
PRIMARY WITNESSING OPPOSITION.
THEY WILL BE ON THE PHONE LINES.
THE PHONE MODERATE YOU PLEASE
PLACE THE OPPOSITION WITNESS ON
THE PHONE LINE. BUT ARE THERE
ANY WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION HERE
WHO WENT TO COME UP HERE AS
WELL? OKAY SAY NONE. LET'S SEE
ON THE PHONE IS THE OPPOSITION
ON THE PHONE? YES CAN YOU HEAR
ME? YES. FOUR MINUTES, PLEASE.
MY NAME IS MASON UEDA. I'M A
REGULATORY ATTORNEY WITH FW LAWN
AND PROVIDING THE FOLLOWING
TESTIMONY AND OPPOSITION OF A B
418 ON BEHALF OF THE NATIONAL
CONFECTIONERS ASSOCIATION, OR TO
THANK YOU FOR YOUR OPPORTUNITY
FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK
TODAY. TNCS MEMBERSHIP INCLUDES
THE NATION'S MANUFACTURERS OF
CHOCOLATE AND CANDY PRODUCTS,
MANY OF WHICH ARE MADE HERE IN
THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
CHOCOLATE AND CANDY ARE SAFE TO
ENJOY AS THEY'VE BEEN FOR
CENTURIES, AND CIA MEMBERS DO
NOT USE ANY INGREDIENTS IN THEIR
PRODUCTS THAT DO NOT COMPLY WITH
CURRENT FDA STANDARDS. COMMENTS
FOCUSED ON THE RATIONALE FOR
THIS LEGISLATION INVOLVING
CONCERNS THAT ONE FDA IS NOT
ACTIVELY REGULATING THE SAFETY
OF FOOD ADDITIVES INTO THE ASIAN
OF BANNED THESE SUBSTANCES
BECAUSE THE EU DOES NOT PERMIT
THEM. THESE CONCERNS ARE
MISPLACED. THE SAFETY OF FOOD
ADDITIVES IS NOT OFF OF FDA S
RADAR. FDA IS WE'RE REVIEW OF
FOOD ADDITIVES IS CONTINUOUS,
WHICH IS DEMONSTRATED BY THE
FACT THAT BROMINATED VEGETABLE
OIL IS CURRENTLY UNDER REVIEW BY
FDA. TITANIUM DIOXIDE WAS
REVIEWED BY FDA IN LATE 2021.
THEY WERE REAFFIRMED ITS SAFETY.
TITANIUM DIOXIDE, RED THREE
PROFILE PARABEN ARE ALL USED IN
DRUGS, WHICH ARE CONTINUOUSLY
REVIEWED DURING THE DRUG
APPROVAL PROCESS. FDA IS
CURRENTLY REVIEWING RED THREE, A
NUMBER OF GROUPS REQUESTED THAT
FDA BANNED RED THREE AN FDA IS
ACTING. THEY'VE OPENED THE ISSUE
UP FOR STAKEHOLDER INPUT.
IRONICALLY MANY OF THE GROUPS
WHO PETITIONED THE FDA WILL TELL
YOU THAT A B 418 IS NEEDED
BECAUSE THE AGENCY IS NOT
REVIEWING FOOD ADDITIVES. THEY
ARE. ON THE SECOND POINT BECAUSE
OF FOOD ADDITIVE IS BANNED IN
THE EU DOES NOT MEAN THAT IT
SHOULD BE BANNED IN THE US THE
ANALYSIS IS NOT QUITE THAT
SIMPLE. THERE ARE TWO ASPECTS TO
CONSIDER. THE FIRST IS INTENDED
USE FOR RED THREE. THE EAVES NOT
BANNING ITS USE IS LIMITED AND
COCKTAIL AND CANDIED CHERRIES.
THE US DOES THE SAME THING WHERE
THEY WILL LIMIT AND ADDITIVE TO
A SPECIFIC PRODUCT. HOWEVER IN
THE US READ THREE IS APPROVED.
FOR USE GENERALLY IN FOODS. THE
WIDER APPROVAL OF USE IN THE U.
S. IS DUE TO THE FACT THAT
THERE'S ONLY ONE OTHER
ALTERNATIVE APPROVED RED COLOR,
WHERE THERE ARE FIVE OTHERS IN
THE IN THE EU. IN A WAY THE USE
OF ADDITIVES DEPENDS ON THE NEED
AND WHAT ELSE IS AVAILABLE? READ
THREE IS APPROVED BY BOTH FDA
AND THE EU AS THEY SAY FOOD
ADDITIVES. LIMITATIONS ON USE DO
NOT REFLECT SOMEHOW THAT THE EU
REVIEW REVIEW PROCESS IS BETTER.
MORE IMPORTANTLY, ANY SAFETY
DETERMINATION DEPENDS ON THE
DATA REVIEWED IN THE REVIEWERS
INTERPRETATION. A GOOD EXAMPLE
IS IN 2012, THE EU REEVALUATED
RED THREE, THEY CONCLUDED, AND I
QUOTE READ THREE INDUCED THYROID
TUMORS IN RODENTS MAY BE
CONSIDERED OF LIMITED RELEVANCE
TO HUMANS, AND THEY HAD NO
CONCERNS OF RED THREE WAS USED
WITHIN LIMITS. THAT RODENT
RODENT STUDY IS THE SAME STUDY
THAT FORMED THE BASIS FOR FDA S
1990 BAN OF RED THREE AND
COSMETICS. SO YOU HAVE THE EU,
SAYING IT'S SAFE WHEN PREVIOUSLY
, THE FDA SAID IT'S NOT SAFE IN
COSMETICS. AND NOW THAT SEEMS
RODENT STUDY IS AGAIN REFERENCES
A BASIS IN THE PETITION TO BAN
RED THREE, WHICH IS BEFORE FDA.
SO THAT THE A WILL SOON
RECONSIDER THIS STUDY. ANOTHER
EXAMPLE IS THE INTERPRETATION OF
TITANIUM DIET DIOXIDE WHERE THE
U. S GOVERNMENT SUBMITTED
COMMENTS TO THE EU OPPOSING THE
BAN. AND THOSE COMMENTS INCLUDED
INPUT FROM FDA AND USDA. THEY
OBJECTED BECAUSE THE EVALUATION
THE EU EVALUATION DID NOT
CONSIDER FOOD GRADE TITANIUM
DIOXIDE, WHICH HAS LARGER
PARTICLE SIZES AND THE PARTICLE
SIZES THEY EXAMINED. IT DIDN'T
ACCURATELY REFLECT THE EFFECT OF
TOXICITY. AFTER THE BAN. USDA
ALSO STATED THAT THERE'S NO GOOD
ALTERNATIVES TO TITANIUM
BACKSIDE IN THE U. S. AND THE
STUDIES FOR NEW COLOR ADDITIVES
WOULD TAKE UP TO 10 YEARS OR
MORE. AND REFORMULATION COSTS
ESTIMATE RANGES WERE FROM
$600,000 TO 1.8 MILLION PER
PRODUCT. THOSE COSTS WOULD BE
THANK YOU. SORRY. I SAID IF YOU
COULD PLEASE WRAP UP YOUR TOP
THOUGHTS, PLEASE. YOU'RE RUNNING
INTO OUR TIME LIMIT. OH I'M
SORRY. UM MY POINT IS THAT THESE
ARE NOT EASY EVALUATIONS. THE
SCIENCE IS COMPLICATED, AND
SOMETIMES IT'S MISINTERPRETED.
FDA CONSISTENTLY REVIEWS THE
SCIENCE. THEY CONVENE EXPERTS TO
REVIEW THE SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE,
EVALUATE THE HAZARDS, ASSESS THE
RISKS AND MAKE SAFETY
DETERMINATIONS. AND SEE A
BELIEVES IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE
TO LET THE SCIENTIFIC REVIEW
PROCESS PLAY OUT, AND THEREFORE
WE ENCOURAGE THE COMMITTEE TO
OPPOSE THE BILL. ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. DO WE HAVE
ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO
WISH TO TESTIFY AND ARE COMING
TO MAKE AN OPPOSITION? MEMBERS
OF THE PUBLIC. I THINK I SEE
YES, THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE
COMING. CHAIR MEMBERS DEAN TALLY
ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
MANUFACTURERS AND TECHNOLOGY
ASSOCIATION AND OUR MEMBER
COMPANIES RESPECTFULLY OPPOSED.
IS YOUR CHAIR MEMBERS TESTED
WITH AMERICAN CHEMISTRY COUNCIL
ALSO AN OPPOSITION. THANK YOU.
DENNIS ALBION ON BEHALF OF
CONSUMER BRANDS ASSOCIATION AND
AMERICAN BEVERAGE ASSOCIATION
AND OPPOSITION. THANK YOU. DON
GILBERT FOR THE CALIFORNIA
EXCUSE ME, THE CONSUMER PRODUCTS
HEALTHCARE ASSOCIATION IN
OPPOSITION. MARGIE LEE ON BEHALF
OF THE CALIFORNIA LEAGUE OF FOOD
PRODUCERS AND THE COUNCIL FOR
RESPONSIBLE NUTRITION IN
OPPOSITION. TAYLOR RUSSIAN ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
GROCERIES ASSOCIATION AND
RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION. ALL RIGHT
NOW WE'RE GONNA GO TO THE PHONE
LINES ANY, UM, MANY FOLKS WHO
ARE OPPOSED OR SUPPORT THIS BILL
, PLEASE, UM, FROM MODERATE, PUT
THEM ON. THANK YOU. MR CHAIR
WILL FIRST GO TO LINE ONE. OH,
FIVE. YOU, LINUS. NO OPEN. JOHN
BATTER CLEANERS FOR KIDS THAT
ARE STRONGLY SUPPORT. PARDON ME
AGAIN. WE WANT TO STRESS THIS IS
FOR THE OPPOSITION. WE'LL GO TO
LIFE SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION EITHER.
PARDON ME. I APOLOGIZE. ONE. OH,
NINE. YOUR LINE IS NOW OPEN.
THIS IS JUST STRONGLY SUPPORT.
SO I'M ON THE RIGHT TIME, I
GUESS NOW, RIGHT? SO OKAY.
SUZANNE HUME. CLEANERS FOR KIDS
.ORG STRONGLY SUPPORT THANK YOU
. LION 89. YOU'RE ALLOWING THIS
NOW OPEN. WELL I WAS ILL ON
BEHALF OF THE BREAST CANCER
PREVENTION AND PARTNERS, ALSO IN
STRONG SUPPORT. LINE 94. YOUR
LINE IS NOW OPEN. LINE 94. YOUR
LINE IS OPEN. WE'RE GOING TO
MOVE ON TO LINE 1 11. SARAH POLO
MOVE WITH THE CALIFORNIA
RETAILERS ASSOCIATION OPPOSE.
LINE 95. YOUR LINE IS NOW OPEN.
LINE 95. YOUR LINE IS OPEN. AND
WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO LINE 80.
CATHERINE DODD FAMILIES
ADVOCATING FOR CHEMICAL AND
TOXIC SAFETY. WE STRONGLY
SUPPORT. LINE ONE. OH, SIX. YOUR
LINE IS NOW OPEN. HELLO THIS IS
PAPER PRIMROSE OF NONTOXIC
SCHOOLS AND MARIN COUNTY AND WE
STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS BILL. LINE
79. YOUR LINE IS NOW OPEN.
SECURE CARTER ON BEHALF OF THEIR
CLUB, CALIFORNIA AND SUPPORT.
AND A FINAL CALL HERE, PLEASE
PRESS ONE AND ZERO IF YOU WISH
TO COMMENT ON THIS BILL. WE'RE
GONNA TRY AND LINE 94 AGAIN.
LINE 94. YOUR LINE IS NOW OPEN.
ENTRY PURCELL WITH JONAS
PHILANTHROPIES, MOTHER OF
SPECIAL NEEDS CHILD STRONGLY
SUPPORT. AND WE HAVE ONE FINAL
PERSON HERE WHO'S GOING TO
COMMENT? JUST A MOMENT, PLEASE?
WE'RE GONNA GO TO LINE 1 13.
YOUR LINE IS NOW OPEN. THAT
JORDAN WELLS WITH THE NATIONAL
STEWARDSHIP ACTION COUNCIL AND
STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU. MR
CHAIR. THERE IS NO ONE ELSE WHO
SIGNAL THAT THEY WISH TO SPEAK.
ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. LET'S BRING
BACK THE COMMITTEE QUESTIONS,
COMMENTS FOR THE AUTHOR. OR
ANYONE. OH, NICE SHIRT. MY
SHARE, HOOVER. THANK YOU SO. I
APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO
DO. I THINK, UM I CERTAINLY CAME
IN TODAY WITH SOME CONCERNS, BUT
I GUESS MY QUESTION MIGHT EVEN
BE MORE FOR THE OPPOSITION. I'M
KIND OF STRUGGLING WITH THE
ANSWER OF ARE THERE ALTERNATIVES
OR NOT? SO YOU KNOW IF THE
AUTHOR WOULD LIKE TO ANSWER THAT
FOR SOME OF THESE CHEMICALS, I
UNDERSTAND THE FDA ARGUMENT, BUT
, UM, ARE THERE ALTERNATIVES OUT
THERE? UM FOR THESE PRODUCTS,
AND WHAT ARE THE YOU KNOW, KIND
OF CHALLENGES WITH SWITCHING TO
THOSE ALTERNATIVES, AND IF THE
OPPOSITION OR SOME ONE FROM THE
OPPOSITION COULD RESPOND AS
WELL. IT WOULD BE GREAT, BUT
THROUGH THE CHAIR. THANK YOU,
MAN. YEAH IT'S A GREAT QUESTION
. AND ACTUALLY, WHEN ADVOCATES
FIRST CAME IN TO TALK TO ME
ABOUT THE BILL ACTUALLY WALKED
THROUGH FOR EACH OF THESE
CHEMICALS WITH THEM, AS YOU
KNOW, WANTED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT
THEY DID AND WHAT THE POSSIBLE
ALTERNATIVES WERE, AND ONE OF
THE REASONS I FELT COMFORTABLE
WITH THE BILL AND DECIDED THAT I
SHOULD RUN. IT IS ALL FIVE OF
THESE ARE NON ESSENTIAL
INGREDIENTS. SO IF YOU LOOK AT
MOST OF THEM, UM TITANIUM
DIOXIDE CREATES VIBRANT COLORS.
RED DYE THREE, OBVIOUSLY IS A
COLOR IN OTHER THINGS HAVE TO
DEAL WITH THE TEXTURE OR THE
APPEARANCE OF BAKED GOODS. THESE
ARE THINGS THAT ARE MOSTLY
FOCUSED ON THE WAY THAT PRODUCTS
LOOKED AND THEY'RE NOT. NOT
ESSENTIAL INGREDIENTS FOR
ACTUALLY PRODUCING THAT PRODUCT
. THERE ARE OTHER WAYS OUT THERE
BOTH NATURAL AND UNNATURAL TO
GET COLORS, RIGHT. SO YOU HAVE
OTHER OTHER SYNTHETIC DYES OUT
THERE. YOU ALSO HAVE NATURAL
WAYS TO COLOR FOOD. YOU CAN USE
POMEGRANATE JUICE, FOR EXAMPLE,
OR OR BEET JUICE OR OTHER THINGS
THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A
COLOR THAT THAT YOU'RE SEEKING.
AND THIS IS AGAIN SOMETHING THAT
WE REALLY WORKED THROUGH IN THE
HEALTH COMMITTEE WHEN WE
ACTUALLY WENT OUT AND PROVIDED
THE COMMITTEE WITH THE PRICES OF
THE ALTERNATIVES THAT PEOPLE CAN
USE. AND YOU THE PART OF THE
POINT HERE IS YOU DON'T HAVE TO
GUESS ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THESE
COMPANIES WILL BE ABLE TO
PRODUCE THESE FOODS ABSENT THESE
INGREDIENTS BECAUSE THEY'RE
ALREADY DOING IT IN THE REST OF
THE WORLD, RIGHT. YOU CAN PICK
UP SKITTLES IN FRANCE OR GERMANY
OR ROMANIA OR BULGARIA. ALL OF
THESE COUNTRIES TASTE THEM. THEY
TASTE THE SAME. LOOK AT THEM.
THEY LOOK AT THAT THEY LOOK THE
SAME. AND THEY'RE STILL ABLE TO
MAKE A PROFIT. THEY'RE STILL
ABLE TO PRODUCE ALL OF THESE
THINGS THAT THESE THESE PRODUCTS
THAT WE ALL LOVE AND AGAIN A LOT
OF FOLKS IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR.
DUNKIN DONUTS STOPPED USING
TITANIUM DIOXIDE. IT'S DONUTS IN
2015. THEY STILL SELL A LOT OF
DONUTS. WE STILL ATE A LOT OF
DONUTS. PEOPLE LOVE DUNKIN
DONUTS. SO ALL OF THESE
COMPANIES ARE GOING TO BE ABLE
TO PRODUCE ALL OF THESE FOODS
AND THEY'RE GONNA OFTEN BE ABLE
TO DO SO IN A WAY THAT HOPEFULLY
IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE MORE
COMFORTING TO CONSUMERS. RIGHT?
UM THE FINAL THING I WILL SAY TO
THAT YOU SHOULD MAYBE TAKE INTO
CONSIDERATION HERE. IF YOU LOOK
AT, UM WHO IS STILL USING THESE
PRODUCTS AND STILL USING THESE
INGREDIENTS. FOR EXAMPLE, COKE
AND PEPSI HAVE MOVED AWAY FROM
USING BROMINATED VEGETABLE OIL,
WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT'S USED
IN SODAS AS AN EMULSIFIER. THE
PEOPLE STILL USING IT, OR MAYBE
SOME OF THE OFF BRAND OFF LABEL
STORM MANUFACTURED BRANDS. SO
ALREADY YOU'VE SEEN THAT THAT
FOLKS HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT
SUCCESSFULLY PRODUCED THESE
PRODUCTS AND UNFORTUNATELY, A
LOT OF THE PRODUCTS THAT THEY'RE
IN NOW ARE DISPROPORTIONATELY
TARGETED AT LOW INCOME
COMMUNITIES THAT COMMUNITIES OF
COLOR. UM AND SO IT'S ACTUALLY
OUR MOST VULNERABLE FOLKS WHO
ARE GETTING THE LEAST HEALTHY
FOOD. I DON'T KNOW IF THE
OPPOSITION THE OPPOSITION IS
STILL ON, BUT THE VICE CHAIR
WANT TO HEAR YOUR COMMENTS ON
THAT. MASON. WE'D ON BEHALF OF
NC A, UM, I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY
THAT THIS WAS A QUOTE FROM US
USDA. THERE ARE NO GOOD
ALTERNATIVES TO TITANIUM DIOXIDE
IN THE U. S. THOSE STUDIES. FOR
COLOR APPROVAL ADDITIVES. TAKE A
LONG TIME. IT'S A LOT OF DATA.
SPECIFIC TO INTENDED USE. AND,
UM. THERE ARE NO OTHER. IT'S A
WHITENING AGENT. THERE ARE NO
OTHER WHITENING AGENTS
AVAILABLE. UM SO MEANS SPECIFIC
TO YOUR QUESTION. I YOU KNOW,
AND I VIEW THIS AS A SECONDARY
ISSUE THAT THE LARGER ISSUE IS
THAT THESE DETERMINATIONS SHOULD
BE SHOULD BE MADE BY THE FDA AND
FDA IS HANDLING IT. UM, BUT
THERE ARE NO ALTERNATIVES.
REALLY FOR TITANIUM DIOXIDE OR
READ THREE. THERE IS ONE OTHER
APPROVED RED COLOR IN THE U. S.
BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S
USED, BUT REALLY PRODUCED
NOWADAYS. SO I GUESS IF I MIGHT
MR CHAIR JUST TO RESPOND TO THAT
THE MAIN USE OF TITANIUM DIOXIDE
IS OFTEN TO GET VIBRANT WHITES,
SO DUNKIN DONUTS WAS USING IT IN
ITS POWDERED SUGAR ON ITS
DONUTS. WE STILL GET VIBRANT
WHITE POWDERED DONUTS FROM
DUNKIN DONUTS. PAPA JOHN'S PIZZA
WAS USING TITANIUM DIOXIDE TO
GET A WHITE COLOR IN THEIR
PIZZA. THEY ALSO STOPPED USING
IT SEVERAL YEARS AGO. YOU CAN
STILL GET PAPA JOHN'S PIZZA THAT
TASTES PRETTY GOOD AND LOOKS
PRETTY GOOD. SO ALL OF THESE
FOLKS AND YOU KNOW, WITH ALL DUE
RESPECT TO THE OPPOSITION
WITNESSES, ALL OF THESE MAJOR
CONSUMER BRANDS OUT THERE JUST
TOTALLY UNDERMINE WHAT HE SAID,
BECAUSE THEY HAVE CLEARLY ALL
FOUND SUBSTITUTES TO BE ABLE TO
PRODUCE THE PRODUCTS THAT WE ALL
KNOW AND LOVE WITHOUT THESE
DANGEROUS CHEMICALS. THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT. WE'LL GO TO SIMILAR
PACHECO. I HAD A I HAD A COUPLE
OF QUESTIONS BESIDES THE E U ARE
THERE ANY OTHER COUNTRIES THAT,
UM THIS. ALLOW THESE, UH THESE
CHEMICALS. IT'S A GREAT QUESTION
. SO THE 27 NATIONS IN THE EU
BAN ALL FIVE OF THESE FOR THE
OTHERS. IT'S A LITTLE BIT HIT
AND MISS. UM SO I'LL GIVE YOU AN
EXAMPLE FOR POTASSIUM BROMATE
THAT'S BANNED. IN ADDITION OF
THE 27 COUNTRIES IN THE EU,
ARGENTINA, BRAZIL, NIGERIA,
SOUTH KOREA, PERU, SRI LANKA,
CHINA AND INDIA AND SO SIMILAR
IF YOU WENT DOWN THE LIST OF
EACH OF THESE FIVE INGREDIENTS
YOU'D FIND TO NOT IDENTICAL, BUT
ALL OF THEM ARE BANNED IN
COUNTRIES OTHER THAN THE EU. I'M
IMPRESSED THAT YOU YOU REMEMBER
MEMORIZED. OKAY I WAS LIKE, WOW,
THAT'S IMPRESSIVE ABOUT IN THE
US ARE THERE ANY STATES WITHIN
THE US THAT HAVE ABANDONED? NO
BUT SINCE WE'VE INTRODUCED THIS
BILL IS SIMILAR BILL HAS
ACTUALLY BEEN INTRODUCED IN THE
STATE OF NEW YORK, SEEKING TO
BAN THE SAME FIVE CHEMICALS AND
I KNOW THE BEVERAGE ASSOCIATION
WAS HERE, BUT YOU SAID PEPSI AND
COCA COLA HAVE ALREADY BANNED
SOME OF THESE CHEMICALS. COKE
AND PEPSI HAVE VOLUNTARILY
STOPPED USING THEM AND ALL OF
THEIR PRODUCTS. SO THAT INCLUDES
POWDER AID, POWER AID, GATORADE
AND ACTUALLY, THAT WAS DONE
SEVERAL YEARS AGO. THIS IS
ACTUALLY OLD NEWS FOR A LOT OF
THESE CONSUMER COMPANIES. THEY
WALKED AWAY FROM THESE CHEMICALS
SEVERAL YEARS AGO BECAUSE OF THE
SCIENCE. SO, YEAH, YOU, DO YOU I
MEAN, MAYBE YOU DON'T KNOW THE
ANSWER TO THIS, BUT I'M ASSUMING
YOU'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH
HIM. DO YOU KNOW WHY THEY'RE
STILL OPPOSING THIS BILL, LIKE
ARE THERE ANY OTHER PRODUCTS
THAT YOU'RE AWARE THAT THEY'RE
USING THESE CHEMICALS IN UM, YOU
KNOW, IT'S A GOOD QUESTION. WE
HAVE INVITED THEM IN TO HAVE
CONVERSATIONS. OUR DOOR IS
ALWAYS OPEN. WE'VE TALKED WITH
THEM ARE THEIR LITTLE TWEAKS
THAT WE COULD MAKE TO ADDRESS
OTHER CONCERNS THAT THAT FOLKS
MIGHT HAVE WITH THIS BILL. UM
YOU KNOW, IT WAS ONE OF THE
FIRST QUESTIONS. I ASKED,
ACTUALLY, WHEN ADVOCATES FROM
THE ENVIRONMENTAL WORKING GROUP
CAME INTO MY OFFICE TO TALK TO
ME ABOUT THE BILL AND ONE OF THE
PEOPLE THAT ARE ACTUALLY USED TO
BE THE HEAD OF GOVERNMENT
AFFAIRS. I THINK IT WAS THAT THE
CONSUMER BRANDS ASSOCIATION, I
SAID, WELL, WHY IF ALL OF THESE
COMPANIES ARE MOVING AWAY, WHY
HAVEN'T THESE OTHER COMPANIES
MADE AWAY SAID A LOT OF IT'S
JUST INERTIA LIKE IT'S JUST
EASIER. THEY HAVE CONTRACTS WITH
THEIR SUPPLY. WIRES THEY MIGHT
HAVE TO CHANGE THINGS A LITTLE
BIT. IT'LL BE. IT'LL BE A
TEMPORARY HEADACHE FOR SOMEBODY
AND FOR ME. I THINK IT'S OKAY
AND FAIR TO ASK THEM TO HAVE A
TEMPORARY HEADACHE IN EXCHANGE
FOR PROTECTING OUR KIDS OVER THE
LONG RUN. AND THEN YOU SAID THE
SKITTLES TAKE TASTE THE SAME. I
THOUGHT THEY WERE DELICIOUS. I
DIDN'T HAVE THE WILD BERRY. I
ONLY GOT THE REGULAR ONES, BUT I
THOUGHT THEY WERE DELICIOUS.
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS
OR COMMENTS FROM THE COMMITTEE
MEMBERS. SEEING AN INVITE THE
AUTHORS OF CLOTHES. YEAH. JUST
THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR THE
THOUGHTFUL CONSIDERATION AND FOR
THE CONVERSATION WOULD
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR I
VOTE, RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I REALLY APPRECIATE THE
CONVERSATION TODAY AND FOR
SOMEONE LIKE JUSTIN GABRIEL
SHOWING THAT HE'S SUCH A GREAT
BRAND AMBASSADOR FOR SO MANY
DIFFERENT BRANDS OF SHAMES. I
WANT TO THANK YOU BRING THIS
BILL FORWARD IN THIS COMMITTEE.
WE HEAR A LOT OF BILLS DEALING
WITH CHEMICALS AND PRODUCTS.
HOWEVER, WHEN IT COMES TO FOOD,
I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE A VERY
CAUTIOUS APPROACH IS SO WHAT
CHEMICALS WE ALLOWED TO BE
INGESTED THE CHEMICALS THAT
WOULD BE PROHIBITED BY THIS BILL
HAVE BEEN BANNED, OF COURSE IN
THE EUROPEAN UNION AND SEVERAL
OTHER COUNTRIES. A COUPLE OF
THESE CHEMICALS ARE KNOWN TO THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA TO CAUSE
CANCER. THERE ARE SAFER
ALTERNATIVES TO MANY OF THESE
CHEMICALS. I THINK BILLS LIKE
THE SURVIVAL PROTECTING ALL
CALIFORNIANS, AND I THANK YOUR
STAFF AND YOUR OFFICE FOR
WORKING WITH OUR COMMITTEE TO
MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE THE FIRST
STEPS OF ENFORCING THIS JUST AS
WE TALKED ABOUT THERE'S HOLES IN
THE FDA AND THE FEDERAL PROCESS.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR
PROCESSES ALSO AS TIGHT AS
POSSIBLE, AND TO MAKE SURE THAT
WHEN CONSUMERS GET THEIR FRENCH
INSPIRED SKITTLES ONE DAY THEY
WILL ALSO BE SAFE FROM HARMFUL
CHEMICALS. I'LL BE RECOMMENDING
IT. I VOTE DO I HAVE A MOTION
AND A SECOND ON THE SPILL?
MOTION BY SOLAR PROJECT CODE IS
SECOND BY SOME AMERICAN MAKIN,
ER. UH THIS IS A DO PASS THE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE SELL IT
, SECRETARY. PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL. ITEM SIX A BEFORE 18
GABRIEL. THE MOTION IS DO PASS
AND RE REFER TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. LEE DIÆN HOOVER.
HOOVER NOT VOTING ARAMBULA. BOW
BAUER-KAHAN CONNELLY CONNELLY. I
MAKIN ER WIENER. AYE PACHECO
PACHECO. I TÂM ZIPPER. THAT'S ON
THE CAR. WE'LL KEEP THAT ON
CALL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. ALRIGHT WE'RE GONNA MOVE
BACK AND FILE ITEM NUMBER ONE
SOME MEMBER WEBER'S ABC 7 TO 7
DEALING WITH THE FASTING
CLEANING CHEMICALS. SIMILAR
WEBER, ETC. YOU HOPE YOU'RE
FEELING OKAY? AND WHENEVER
YOU'RE READY, YOU MAY BE IN GOOD
AFTERNOON SHARON COMMITTEE. I'M
HERE TO PRESENT A B 7 TO 7,
WHICH PROHIBITS THE SALE,
DISTRIBUTION AND MANUFACTURING
OF CLEANING PRODUCTS CONTAINING
FAST. FAST ARE SYNTHETIC
CHEMICALS THAT ARE FOUND IN A
STAGGERING ARRAY OF CONSUMER
PRODUCTS USUALLY COULD TO CREATE
NONSTICK WATER RESISTANT OR
STAIN REPELLENT COATING. NON
STICK PANS, UMBRELLAS, NO POLISH
GREASE RESISTANT PACKAGING LIKE
POPCORN BAGS AND PLASTIC WATER
BACK BOTTLES ARE EXAMPLE OF
PRODUCTS COMMONLY KNOWN TO
CONTAIN PEOPLE FAST. THESE
CHEMICAL COMPOUNDS ARE EXTREMELY
STABLE FOR A VERY AND VERY
DIFFICULT TO BREAK DOWN, EARNING
THE NAME FOREVER CHEMICALS.
DECADES OF HEAVY USE OF PEOPLE
FAST HAVE RESULTED IN
CONTAMINATION OF WATER SOIL, THE
BLOOD OF PEOPLE AND ANIMALS ALL
OVER THE WORLD. THE CITY CA.GOV
BETWEEN 4014 AND FOUND THAT 98%
OF AMERICANS HAVE SOME AMOUNT OF
PEOPLE FAST IN THEIR BLOOD.
PEOPLE ASKING CAN CAUSE HARM TO
OUR HEART, LIVER, REPRODUCTIVE
AND RENAL SYSTEMS CAN INCREASE
OUR CHOLESTEROL LEVELS, INCREASE
OUR BLOOD PRESSURE AND ARE
PREGNANT WOMEN AND OVER EXPOSURE
TO THE FAST CAN PUT INDIVIDUALS
AT RISK FOR DEVELOPING KIDNEY
CANCER, CAUSE LIVER DAMAGE AND
REDUCE THE IMMUNE SYSTEM'S
ABILITY TO FIGHT INFECTIONS. THE
ENVIRONMENTAL WORKING GROUP
FOUND THAT APPROXIMATELY 50% OF
INDUSTRIAL GRADE FLOOR POLISHES
WHICH ARE USED IN PUBLIC
BUILDINGS, SCHOOLS AND
COMMERCIAL OFFICES, CONTAIN
PEOPLE FAST. AND ONE IN SIX
HOUSEHOLD CLEANING PRODUCTS DO
ALSO. FAST FLOOR POLISHES KIND
EXPOSED JANITORIAL WORKERS AND
THE PUBLIC TO AIRBORNE FAST ALSO
ENTERS WASTEWATER WHEN FLOORS
ARE MOPPED AND CLEAN. THE
CALIFORNIA STATE WATER RESOURCE
CONTROL BOARD ISSUED STATEWIDE
MONITORING AND REPORTING ORDERS
FOR PREFACE AND DRINKING AND
WASTEWATER IN 2020. WHICH FOUND
THAT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF
PEOPLE FAST WE'RE ENTERING OUR
WASTEWATER THROUGH RESIDENTIAL
AND COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS. WATER
AND WASTEWATER OPERATORS ARE PRO
ACTIVELY WORKING TO REDUCE
SOURCES OF FAST AND THEIR
SYSTEM. STILL REMOVING FAST
ENTIRELY AT THE END POINT IS A
DAUNTING AND COST PROHIBITIVE
TASK AND THEREFORE SOURCE
CONTROL IS THE MOST EFFECTIVE
POLICY APPROACH. FOR THESE
REASONS. A B 7 TO 7 PROHIBITS
THE SALE, DISTRIBUTION AND
MANUFACTURING OF CLEANING
PRODUCTS CONTAINING FAST
CHEMICALS. THE BILL ALSO
AUTHORIZES THE ATTORNEY GENERAL
, A CITY ATTORNEY, A COUNTY
COUNCIL OR A DISTRICT ATTORNEY
TO BRING AN ACTION AGAINST AN
ENTITY THAT VIOLATES THIS
PROVISION. AND IMPOSES A CIVIL
PENALTIES NOT TO EXCEED 5000 FOR
THE FIRST VIOLATION AND NOT TO
EXCEED $10,000 FOR SUBSEQUENT
VIOLATIONS. I KNOW THERE ARE
PENDING QUESTIONS ON HOW ALL OF
THE P FAST RELATED BILLS WILL BE
IMPLEMENTED AND ENFORCED AND A
CONSISTENT AND, MORE IMPORTANTLY
, A LOGICAL MANNER AND I'M
COMMITTED TO WORKING WITH
COMMITTEES AND STAKEHOLDERS ON
THIS ISSUE. I AM JOINED HERE
TODAY BY THE BILL SPONSORS
SAMARA GELLER ON BEHALF OF THE
ENVIRONMENTAL WORKING GROUP, WHO
WILL TESTIFY. REMOTE. REMOTELY.
AND JESSICA GIGER ON BEHALF OF
THE CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF
SANITATION AGENCIES. THANK YOU.
DO THE ROOM FIRST OR LET'S DO
THE FIRST, UM, THE ROOM FIRST.
OKAY SOUNDS GOOD. UM GOOD
AFTERNOON AGAIN. MR CHAIR AND
MEMBERS. I AM JUST BECAUSE I
AGREE WITH CALIFORNIA
ASSOCIATION OF SANITATION
AGENCIES HERE AS A PROUD CO
SPONSOR OF THE BILL. WE ARE NOW
ON THE THIRD PEAK FAST BILL FOR
THE DAY, SO I WON'T YOU KNOW, RE
RE LITIGATE WITH MY COMMENTS.
BUT, YOU KNOW, AS PREVIOUSLY
STATED FAST CONTAMINATION AS A
REALLY BIG DEAL FOR WATER AND
WASTEWATER AGENCIES. WE'RE
ACTIVELY PROMOTING SOURCE
CONTROL POLICIES THAT KEEP THESE
CHEMICALS FROM ENTERING OUR
ENVIRONMENT AND BANNING THE NON
ESSENTIAL USE OF THE FAST AND
CONSUMER PRODUCTS CONTINUES TO
BE A SUCCESSFUL AND COST
EFFECTIVE POLICY APPROACH. THE
PRODUCTS IN THIS BILL, UM ALMOST
ALL HAVE A DIRECT PATHWAY INTO
OUR WASTEWATER SYSTEMS AS PART
OF THEIR INTENDED USES AND
CONSISTENT WITH PRIOR P FAST,
CATEGORICAL BAND BILLS PASSED BY
THE LEGISLATURE. THIS BILL WILL
SEND THE SIGNAL TO INDUSTRY THAT
IT'S TIME TO MOVE AWAY FROM
THESE HARMFUL CHEMICALS AND KEEP
THEM OUT OF OUR WATERSHEDS. AND
FOR THESE REASONS, WE THINK THE
AUTHOR FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD
AND URGE YOUR SUPPORT OF MAYBE 7
TO 7. THANK YOU. LET'S GO TO THE
WITNESS ON THE PHONE FROM
MODERATE. PLEASE HELP GET A
WITNESS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR
TIME. MY NAME IS SAMARA GELLER
AND I SERVE AS SENIOR DIRECTOR
OF CLEANING SCIENCE, THAT
ENVIRONMENTAL WORKING GROUP CO
SPONSOR OF THIS BILL. A MAN MADE
CLASS OF CHLORINATED ORGANIC
CHEMICALS ARE FOUND NEARLY
WHEREVER THEY'RE TESTED. ALL OF
US ARE EXPOSED TO THE FAST DAILY
AND SOME PEOPLE CAN BUILD UP IN
THE BODY OVER TIME AND STAY
THERE FOR DECADES. ALSO E W G
FINDS THAT CONTAMINATE MORE THAN
330 SPECIES OF WILDLIFE. FOSTER
KNOWN TO CAUSE AN ARRAY OF
HEALTH PROBLEMS, INCLUDING AT
VERY LOW DOSES AND HAVE BEEN
LINKED TO IMMUNE SYSTEM
SUPPRESSION, REPRODUCTIVE AND
DEVELOPMENTAL PROBLEMS, HIGHER
RISK OF CERTAIN CANCERS AND
MORE. SOME SHORT CHAIN AND
REPLACEMENT PIECE. FOSS DISPLAY
THE SAME CONCERNING HALLMARKS AS
THE TOXIC LONG CHAIN PIECE. THEY
ARE REPLACING THEIR USING A WIDE
VARIETY OF CLEANING AND
MAINTENANCE PRODUCTS, INCLUDING
CLASS AND HARD SURFACE CLEANERS
, FABRIC AND CARPET CLEANERS AND
TREATMENT WAXES, POLISHES AND
STRIPPERS, FLOORS, FURNITURE,
CARS AND BOAT VESSELS. JUST
WATCHING LINSEED AEROSOL
PROPELLANTS AND PAINT. OF
PRIMARY CONCERN ARE THE
EXPOSURES OF OUR MOST VULNERABLE
AND MOST AT RISK POPULATIONS,
INCLUDING EXPECTANT MOTHERS, THE
ELDERLY PATIENTS AND THOSE WITH
WEAKENED IMMUNE SYSTEMS.
EXPOSURES DISPROPORTIONATELY
HARM WORKERS AND THOSE ROUTINELY
APPLYING AND REMOVING THESE
CHEMICALS PART OF THEIR JOB
DUTIES. PRODUCTS ARE USED IN
HEAVY FREQUENCY AND NEARLY ALL
COMMERCIAL AND INSTITUTIONAL
SPACES, HOSPITALS, GOVERNMENT
BUILDINGS AND OTHERS. CHILDREN
SPEND LONG HOURS IN SCHOOLS AND
DAYCARE CENTERS WHERE THE
CHEMICALS ARE APPLIED, STRIPPED
AND THEN REAPPLIED IN A
CONTINUOUS LOOP. AS REFERENCED
BY THE COMMITTEE ANALYSIS.
RECENT STUDY REVEALS
CONCENTRATIONS OF FOX AND DUST
AND AIR DURING FLOOR WAXING AND
STRIPPING THAT WE'RE ONE ORDER
OF MAGNITUDE GREATER THAN
TYPICAL RESIDENTIAL, INDOOR AIR
AND TWO ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE
GREATER THAN OUTDOOR AIR. THE EU
AND OTHERS INDICATE THAT
MANUFACTURERS SHOULD BE ABLE TO
PRODUCE THEIR CLEANING PRODUCTS
WITHOUT THE FOX AND WITH
SUITABLE, OFTEN LONG ESTABLISHED
ALTERNATIVE CHEMICALS. THESE ARE
BOTH READILY AVAILABLE ON THE
MARKET AND DESCRIBED IN THE
PATENT LITERATURE. AND INFORMAL
ANALYSIS OF 140 FLOOR CLEANING
AND MAINTENANCE PRODUCTS FINDS
TYPES OF THIS, UH, PRODUCTS OF
THIS TYPE ON THE MARKET WITHOUT
PEACE OFF OR COMMON, INCLUDING
FROM MAJOR BRANDS LIKE ECHOES
METHOD. MURPHY OIL SOAP PINE SOL
PLEDGE SEVENTH GENERATION SC
JOHNSON, PROFESSIONAL, SWIFT
FURS UP AND OTHERS. OUR SAME
EVALUATION INDICATES THAT A NEAR
MAJORITY OF PROFESSIONAL FOR
PRODUCTS MAY CONTAIN PEPE'S,
HOWEVER MANY DO NOT. PEOPLE ARE
INCREDIBLY TOXIC. IT NEEDS TO BE
REGULATED AS A CLASS HELP US TO
STOP THESE AVOIDABLE SOURCES OF
FAST SO WE WOULD RESPECTFULLY
ASKED THE COMMITTEE TO PLEASE
SUPPORT THIS MEASURE. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU SO MUCH NOW, ARE THERE
ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO
WISHED TO COME FORWARD? JUST
FIND SUPPORT OF THE BILL NAME
AND ORGANIZATION, PLEASE? AND
SUPPORTS. THEY'RE A LITTLE
DARRYL IT ON BEHALF OF NRDC AND
SUPPORT. ANDREA VENTURA WITH
CLEAN WATER ACTION IN SUPPORT OF
BANNING THE ENTIRE CLASS AND
THESE PRODUCTS. JENNIFER
WILLIAMS WITH THE EAST BAY
MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT AND
SUPPORT. LARA D'HARAN WITH
ENVIRONMENT, CALIFORNIA AND
SUPPORT AND ALSO WOULD LIKE TO
ADD ON CALLE PERKS SUPPORT.
THANK YOU KNOW, WELL, THE
PRIMARY WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION
PLEASE COME FORWARD.
GET ALL FOUR MINUTES TO YOURSELF
. IF YOU DON'T THINK I'LL NEED
IT, BUT THANK YOU. GOOD
AFTERNOON CHAIR AND MEMBERS
NICOLE KENYATTA'S ON BEHALF OF
THE HOUSEHOLD AND COMMERCIAL
PRODUCTS ASSOCIATION, AND WHEN
WE HAVE AN OPPOSED UNLESS
AMENDED POSITION ON A B 7 27 TO
BE CLEAR. WE ARE NOT OPPOSED TO
THE GOALS OF THIS BILL TO
TRANSITION. FOSS AWAY FROM
CLEANING PRODUCTS ARE AMENDMENTS
SEEK TO ACHIEVE PARITY WITH
OTHER PITFALLS, BAND LEGISLATION
AND ALLOW THE CLEANING PRODUCTS
INDUSTRY TO COMPLY. OF
PARTICULAR CONCERN IS HOW THE
BILL WOULD IMPACT A VERY
SPECIFIC CATEGORY OF PRODUCTS
THAT ARE WITHIN THE DEFINITION
OF POLISH OR FLOOR MAINTENANCE
PRODUCTS. WITHIN THAT DEFINITION
ARE FLOOR FINISHES, WHICH HAVE A
DEGREE OF PERMANENCY AND ARE
DESIGNED TO REMAIN ON THE FLOOR
FOR YEARS. THESE ARE CRITICAL
PRODUCTS THAT SERVE TO MITIGATE
, WEAR AND TEAR AND EXTEND THE
LIFE OF FLOORING. HOWEVER
REMOVING FLOOR FINISHES FROM THE
MARKET WILL RESULT AND REPLACING
FLOORS FAR MORE FREQUENTLY,
THEREBY CREATING MORE WASTE IN
OUR LANDFILLS, THE USE OF THE
FLORIST SURFACTANTS IN THESE
PRODUCTS EXTENDS THE LIFE OF THE
FLOOR FINISH TO ENSURE FEWER
REPLACEMENTS OF THE COATINGS AND
REDUCES THE AMOUNT OF FLOOR
PRODUCT ITSELF. MOREOVER
FORMULAS ARE OPTIMIZED TO USE
THE MINIMAL AMOUNT OF FLORA
SURFACTANTS. AND UNFORTUNATELY,
THERE ARE NO ALTERNATIVE
CHEMISTRIES AVAILABLE AT THIS
TIME, SO REFORMULATION WILL TAKE
ADDITIONAL TIME TO HELP MITIGATE
THESE CONCERNS AND ALLOW A
COMPLIANCE PATHWAY TO
REFORMULATE AWAY FROM THE FLOOR
. SURFACTANTS IN THESE VERY
SPECIFIC PRODUCTS, WE ARE
REQUESTING TO ADD A NARROW
DEFINITION FOR SEMIPERMANENT
COATINGS WITH THE EFFECTIVE DATE
FOR THESE VERY AGAIN LIMITED
PRODUCTS TO BE EXTENDED TO 2032.
AND ADDITIONALLY OUR AMENDMENTS
WOULD SEEK TO DO THE FOLLOWING
FOR OTHER PRODUCT CATEGORIES
CHANGE THE EFFECTIVE DATE FROM
2025 TO 2026, WHICH WOULD ALLOW
TWO YEARS TO PHASE OUT OF FIFA'S
, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE
OTHER PITFALLS. BAND BILLS, UM,
WOULD ALIGN DEFINITIONS WITH
OTHER FIFA'S STATUTES,
SPECIFICALLY DELETING THE
PRODUCT COMPONENT LANGUAGE,
WHICH WAS NOT INCLUDED IN OTHER
IN OTHER BNP FACADE FOR
COSMETICS. RECENT AMENDMENTS DID
DELETE THE VERY LOW THRESHOLDS
FOR CONTAMINANTS AND THE
CONTAMINANT. FIFA'S I WANT TO BE
CERTAINLY APPRECIATE, AND AS
THIS THAT GETS THE BILL CLOSER
TO THE OTHER PEOPLE FAST BANDS,
BUT I THINK ALSO, AS THE
ANALYSIS NOTES, THERE'S
INCONSISTENCIES ACROSS THE
DIFFERENT PIECES P FAST BANDS
WITH RESPECT TO THE
UNINTENTIONALLY ADDED, AND
LASTLY, WE ARE SEEKING TO ADD A
REGULATORY PROCESS. TO EXEMPT
INGREDIENTS, WHICH DO HAVE
ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFITS THAT ARE
NOT PERSISTENT BIO, ACCUMULATIVE
OR TOXIC TO THE ENVIRONMENT,
THINGS THAT ARE CAPTURED UNDER
THE DEFINITION OF FIFA'S, BUT
DON'T, UM, SHARE THE SAME TRAITS
AS A PEOPLE S, UM SO AGAIN, WE
SHARE THE GOAL OF MOVING AWAY
FROM FIFA'S SUBSTANCES AND WHERE
THEY ARE STILL USED. INDUSTRY IS
WORKING TO INNOVATE AND
REFORMULATE AWAY FROM THEM. SO
WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUE
CONVERSATION WITH THE AUTHOR AND
SPONSORS. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE ANY
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WISH
TO COME FORWARD TO OPPOSE THE
BILL PAYMENT ORGANIZATION,
PLEASE? TIM CHESTER, WITH THE
AMERICAN CHEMISTRY COUNCIL SHARE
THE COMMENTS THAT WERE
PREVIOUSLY MADE AND LOOK FORWARD
TO WORKING WITH THE PROPONENTS.
THANK YOU. DEAN TALLY ON BEHALF
OF THE CALIFORNIA MANUFACTURERS
AND TECHNOLOGY ASSOCIATION. WE
RESPECT THE GOAL, BUT WE ARE
POSING LESS SUBMITTED AT THIS
TIME. ALRIGHT NOW PHONE
MODERATOR. LET'S GO BACK TO THE
PHONES AND HE SUPPORT OPPOSITION
FOR A B 7 TO 7. FOR THOSE WHO
WISH TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION. PLEASE PRESS ONE
THAN ZERO. WE'RE GOING TO FIRST
GO TO LINE 89. PARDON ME. WE'RE
GOING TO GO TO LINE 1 15.
VANESSA FORESIGHT WITH
CALIFORNIA VERSUS FOR
ENVIRONMENTAL, HEALTH AND
JUSTICE AND QUEEN EARTH FOR KIDS
SUPPORT IN ALL OF THE PEOPLE
PASSED MEASURES. UM PLEASE GO
FORWARD AND WORK WITH
MANUFACTURERS, BUT PROTECT THE
PUBLIC. LINE 1 12. YOUR LINE IS
NOW OPEN. JOHN BATTER WITH
CLEANER THREE KIDS THAT ARE IN
STRONG SUPPORT. LINE 1 20 YEAR
LINE THIS NOW OPEN. SUZANNE HUME
. CLEANERS FOR KIDS .ORG
STRONGLY SUPPORT. BLIND WHEN 18.
YOUR LINE IS NOW OPEN. JORDAN
WELLS ON BEHALF OF THE NATIONAL
STEWARDSHIP, ACTION COUNCIL AND
STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU. LINE
78. YOUR LINE IS NOW OPEN. LINE
78. PHILIP VANDER PLAY WITH LOSS
, ANGELES COUNTY SANITATION
DISTRICTS AND SUPPORT. LINE 79.
YOUR LINE IS NOW OPEN. SECURE
CARTER ON BEHALF OF SIERRA CLUB,
CALIFORNIA AND SUPPORT LINE 94.
YOUR LINE IS NOW OPEN. LINE 94.
LANDRY PURCELL AT JONAS
PHILANTHROPIES AND GROWING
SOLUTIONS FUND AND STRONG
SUPPORT. LINE 89. YOUR LINE IS
NOW OPEN. SMILE ON BEHALF OF THE
BREAST CANCER PREVENTION
PARTNERS AND SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
LINE 1 17. YOUR LINE IS NOW
OPEN. PARTY, KAREN AMERICAN BIRD
CONSERVANCY AND STRONG SUPPORT.
MR CHAIR. THERE IS NO ONE ELSE
WHO SIGNALED THAT THEY WISH TO
SPEAK. THANK YOU SO MUCH. LET'S
BRING BACK THE COMMITTEE ANY
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ABOUT THIS
BILL, SUMMARY CONNOLLY. QUICK
QUESTION AND WANT TO THANK THE
AUTHOR FOR THE GREAT WORK AND
THERE'S TESTIFYING, CERTAINLY
GREAT TO HEAR ABOUT THE PACKAGE
OF MEASURES COMING FORWARD. I
NOTICED ONE DIFFERENCE. WE HEARD
A B 2 46 PAPIN EARLIER. IN THE
HEARING AND REGARDING
UNINTENTIONAL INCORPORATION OF
THE PRODUCT, UM OR THE CHEMICAL
IN A PRODUCT. AS A 2027. THE
STANDARD WOULD BE 10 PARTS PER
MILLION AND IN THIS BILL UM, IT
WOULD, BY COMPARISON AS OF 2025
50 PARTS PER MILLION AND 2027.
25 PARTS PER MILLION SO LESS
STRINGENT OF A STANDARD AND JUST
WONDERING WHY THAT IS. AND AS WE
KNOW TO 46 RELATED TO MENSTRUAL
PRODUCTS. SO UM, I THINK ONE OF
THE ISSUES THAT I DISCUSSED IN
MY OPENING BRIEFLY IS THAT WITH
A LOT OF THESE DIFFERENT PEOPLE
FAST AND ARE BEING BROUGHT
BEFORE YOU TODAY, BUT ALSO THE
ONES THAT WE HAVE ALREADY PASSED
THEIR IS THAT DIFFERENCES
VARIATION. AND SO THAT'S WHY I
SAID WE CAN WE COMMIT TO
CONTINUING THE CONVERSATION SO
THAT IT IS JUST A ONE STANDARD.
UM SO IT'S EASIER FOR
MANUFACTURERS AND LEGISLATORS
AND LIKE SO WE WORK. WE
RECOGNIZE THAT SO. OKAY. ANY
OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF
NOT, I'LL HAVE SUMMER WEBER
CLOSE. I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
YOUR I VOTE. THANK YOU. ALL
RIGHT. THANK YOU. BUILD A MOVING
IN SECOND. DID I JUST WANT TO
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR BRINGING
FORWARD THIS SPILL? I'M WORKING
WITH THE COMMITTEE ON MY
COMMITTEE STAFF ON THIS AND
ADDING IN THE ENFORCEMENT
PROVISIONS, JUST LIKE ALL THE
OTHER PEOPLE FASTING CHEMICAL
BAN BILLS THAT WE'RE HEARING
TODAY. YOU JUST WANT TO MAKE
SURE THAT IT ACTUALLY REALIZES
INTO REALITY. I AM RECOMMENDING
AN EVIL AND EMOTION IS TO DO
PASS THE APPROPRIATIONS
COMMITTEE SECRETARY. PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL. ITEM ONE A. B 7 27
WEBER. THE MOTION IS DO PASS AND
RE REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. LI LI I HOOVER
HOOVER. NO ARAMBULA, BAUER-KAHAN
. CONNELLY CONNELLY. I MAKIN ER
MAKIN HER I PACHECO PACHECO, I
TA ZABAR. ZUBER. AYE. WE HAVE
FIVE VOTES. FIVE OUTS THAT'S
OUT. CONGRATULATIONS ALRIGHT,
NEXT, WE SHALL GO TO ITEM EIGHTS
. ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S FRIEDMAN'S
MAYBE 10 59, WHICH DEAL WITH
FIBERGLASS AND FLAVORS HARDENS
AND MATTRESSES AND OTHER
PRODUCTS. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR
AND MEMBERS. I WANT TO THANK YOU
AND THE COMMITTEE AND YOUR STAFF
FOR THEIR HARD WORK ON THE BILL.
THIS IS ONE IN A PARADE OF GUESS
WHAT'S IN YOUR HOUSEHOLD
PRODUCTS BILLS. ASSEMBLY BILL 10
59 PROHIBITS THE SALE AND
DISTRIBUTION IN CALIFORNIA OF
JUVENILE PRODUCTS, MATTRESSES
AND UPHOLSTERED FURNITURE THAT
CONTAINS FIBERGLASS, BOTH THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THE STATE
OF CALIFORNIA HAVE SET STANDARDS
THAT LIMIT THE FLAMMABILITY OF
MATTRESSES AND UPHOLSTERED
FURNITURE. FOR A LONG TIME.
TOXIC FLAME RETARDANT CHEMICALS
WERE USED TO MEET THESE
STANDARDS. BUT IN RECOGNITION OF
THEIR REALLY VERY NEGATIVE
HEALTH IMPACTS, THE LAW AND
REGULATIONS WERE CHANGED AT A
FEDERAL AND STATE LEVELS
PROHIBIT THE USE OF THESE
CHEMICALS WHILE MOST
MANUFACTURERS ALTERED THEIR
MANUFACTURING METHODS TO USE
NATURALLY RESISTANT MATERIALS
SUCH AS RAYON, LATEX AND WOOL TO
MEET THE STANDARD. SOME TURN TO
FIBERGLASS AS A THERMAL BARRIER
. FIBERGLASS IS A MAN MADE
MINERAL FIBER THAT'S COMPOSED OF
SILICA, SAND, LIMESTONE,
RECYCLED GLASS AND SODA ASH THAT
HAS A LIME A LIFESPAN OF MORE
THAN 50 YEARS. WHEN INDIVIDUALS
UNZIP ER OPEN MATTRESS COVERS
UNINTENTIONAL EXPOSURE TO
FIBERGLASS CAN OCCUR. IN
ADDITION, THERE'S CONCERN THAT
EVEN WHEN THE MATTRESS OR COUCH
COVERS ARE NOT DISTURBED, THE
FIBERGLASS PARTICLES ESCAPE TO
THE SURFACE LEADING TO
UNINTENDED EXPOSURES. IN ONE
STUDY, FIBERGLASS WAS DETECTED
IN THE COVERS OF MATTRESSES
MANUFACTURED BY XENOS AND GRECO
THAT WERE CERTIFIED AS HAVING
CHEMICAL FREE FOAM. SINCE
FIBERGLASS IS PRESIDENT, MANY
NATURAL MATTRESSES, IT CAN BE
DIFFICULT TO TELL WHETHER A
SPECIFIC MATTRESS CONTAINS IT IN
THE PHONE, WHERE THE COVER THE
MATTRESS LABEL MAY OR MAY NOT
CONTAIN THE TERM FIBERGLASS,
WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE
IF YOU GO OUT AND YOU WANT TO
BUY ONE OF THESE PRODUCTS THAT
DOESN'T HAVE FIBERGLASS,
SOMETIMES YOU WILL ANYWAY.
FIBERGLASS CAN BE IRRITATING TO
THE EYES, SKIN AND LUNGS, RASHES
, ITCHING AND BLISTERS CAN OCCUR
WHEN FIBERGLASS COMES IN CONTACT
WITH HUMAN SKIN, EVEN FOR SHORT
PERIODS OF TIME, LONG TERM
EXPOSURE TO FIBERGLASS IS
ASSOCIATED WITH LUNG DISEASE.
INCLUDING PULMONARY FIBROSIS,
SHORT INHALATION EXPOSURE TO
FIBERGLASS MAY CAUSE LUNG
INFLAMMATION AND BRONCHITIS.
FIBERGLASS FIBERS CAN ALSO CAUSE
VISUAL CHANGES, BLEEDING AND
SCARRING. IF THEY BECOME
EMBEDDED IN THE I. BASICALLY YOU
DON'T WANT TO BE BREATHING THIS
. YOU DON'T WANT A NEAR EYES.
YOU CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO BE
SLEEPING ON IT. WE KNOW THAT
ONLY 13.1% OF MATTRESSES
CONTAINED FIBERGLASS IS A
THERMAL BARRIER. SO THESE
PRODUCTS WE KNOW CAN BE
EFFECTIVELY MADE WITHOUT
FIBERGLASS, THEREBY EFFECTIVELY
ELIMINATING ACCIDENTS, LEAKAGE
AND OTHER MISTAKES FROM
HAPPENING AND NEEDLESSLY
EXPOSING THE PUBLIC TO A
UNNECESSARY SUBSTANCE. GIVEN THE
SMALL AMOUNT OF MATTRESSES ON
THE MARKET CONTAINING FIBERGLASS
AND THE AVAILABILITY OF
ALTERNATIVES TO MEET FEDERAL AND
STATE FLAMMABILITY STANDARDS,
MAYBE 10 59 WOULD BAN THE USE OF
FIBERGLASS TO PROTECT PUBLIC
HEALTH. I WANT TO THANK THE
INTERNATIONAL SLEEP PRODUCTS
ASSOCIATION FOR WORKING WITH US
ON THIS BILL. I KNOW THEY SHARE
OUR GOAL OF GETTING RID OF
FIBERGLASS AND MATTRESSES. I
UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS THAT
THEY'VE RAISED WITH THE BILL
REGARDING MEETING FEDERAL
FLAMMABILITY STANDARDS, AND WE
WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM
AS WE ALWAYS TRY TO DO WITH
INDUSTRY. TESTIFYING AND SUPPORT
OF THE BILL ON BEHALF OF OUR
SPONSOR. THE ENVIRONMENTAL
WORKING GROUP IS BALLET LEOTARD
AND DR JOANNE BRUSH WITH THE
CALIFORNIA PRODUCT STEWARDSHIP
COUNCIL AND I WOULD BE BEHALF OF
ALL OF US AND ALL OF OUR
CHILDREN REQUESTS AND I VOTE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CHAIR AND
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. I AM
BILL ALYOKHINA, CALIFORNIA
DIRECTOR OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS
FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL WORKING
GROUP. FIRST I WANT TO THANK THE
AUTHOR FOR BRINGING THIS ISSUE
TO YOU THE STAFF FOR ALL THEIR
HARD WORK ON A COMPLICATED
ISSUE, AND ESPECIALLY TO THE
INTERNATIONAL SLEEP PRODUCTS
ASSOCIATION, WHO HAVE BEEN GREAT
TO WORK WITH, AND I THINK WE'LL
HAVE A GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP
GOING FORWARD AND TRYING TO
SOLVE THE ISSUE AND GET A
PRAGMATIC BILL TO THE GOVERNOR.
UM AS THEY AS THE
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S, SAID THE OFF
FIBERGLASS IS A TRUE CONCERN
ABOUT EXPOSURE TO EVERYONE, NOT
JUST CHILDREN. IN THIS CASE.
WE'RE OFTEN WORRIED ABOUT
CHILDREN IN THIS COMMITTEE
THROUGH WHERE AND TERROR PEOPLE
OPENING UP MATTRESSES TO WASH
THEM OR LOOK WHAT'S INSIDE. THEY
GET SPREAD QUITE EASILY, AND
THEY'RE MICROSCOPIC FIBERS CAN
GET IN THE LUNGS. AND HAVE BAD
HEALTH IMPACTS. WE UNDERSTAND
THE NEED FOR SAFETY. NO ONE
WANTS TO SEE A MATTRESS GO UP IN
FLAMES. IT'S NOT JUST IN YOUR
HOUSE AND SMOKING USED TO BE THE
NUMBER ONE REASON BUT IF A
MATTRESS LIGHTS ON FIRE IN
APARTMENT BUILDING, THEN
EVERYONE GETS JEOPARDIZED, NOT
JUST THE PERSON WHO WAS CARELESS
. SO THE IMPORTANT THING TO
UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE
ALTERNATIVES TO BE USED. YOU CAN
USE WOOL. RAYON AND SILICA BASED
FIBERS. AND THESE COVERS THAT GO
OVER THE PHONE TO MAKE THEM MEET
THE FEDERAL FLAME FLAMMABILITY
REQUIREMENTS. WE BELIEVE THE
MANUFACTURERS ARE NIMBLE AND
INNOVATIVE. FOR EXAMPLE, YOU'VE
ALL HEARD NOW BETTER IN A BOX
WHERE YOU GET A BOX AND OPEN IT
UP AND BOOM. THERE'S A MATTRESS
IN YOUR ROOM, SO THEY'RE ABLE TO
DO THINGS THEY COULDN'T DO 34
YEARS AGO. AND WE THINK THEY CAN
DO IT ON THIS ON ENFORCEMENT.
WE'VE HAD A LONG DISCUSSION WITH
THE WITH THE STAFF AND I THINK
YOU'LL SEE IN ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
TINGS MEASURE COMING TO YOU
TODAY THAT THIS IS AN ISSUE. WE
ACKNOWLEDGE IT. WE'VE DONE A
GOOD JOB. I THINK THE
LEGISLATURE AND US AND THE
GOVERNOR'S SON IN THESE BILLS TO
GET A NUMBER OF CHEMICALS BANNED
WHILE WE WAIT FOR THE DEPARTMENT
OF TOXIC SUBSTANCE CONTROLS. S¼
FOR CONSUMER PRODUCT WORK
PROGRAM TO GET GOING AND FINISH
AND GET A PRODUCT OUT.
MEANWHILE, WE'VE BEEN GRATEFUL
ABOUT THE ACTIONS TAKEN BY THIS
COMMITTEE AND OTHERS TO PROTECT
PUBLIC HEALTH. SO WE'LL WORK
WITH YOU ON THE ENFORCEMENT
ISSUE AND ON THIS BILL AND OTHER
BILLS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU. NOW DO WE HAVE ANY
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO
ADD THERE ONE MORE WITNESS? OKAY
YOU MAY ALSO COME UP TO THE DESK
IF YOU LIKE. YES, OKAY. THANK
YOU SO MUCH. COMMITTEE CHAIR. MY
NAME IS DR JOANNE BRASH AM
CURRENTLY THE CHAIR OF THE
COWARDS CYCLE MATTRESS RECYCLING
ADVISORY COMMITTEE. BUT I'M HERE
TODAY ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA PRODUCT STEWARDSHIP
COUNCIL. WE'RE A NONPROFIT
THAT'S PRIMARILY FUNDED BY LOCAL
GOVERNMENT WASTE AUTHORITIES,
HOLLERS AND RECYCLERS. UM WITH
THE MISSION OF GREEN DESIGN. WE
WANT TO GET THE TOXICS OUT OF
THE MARKET BEFORE THEY EVEN
ENTER THEM. THE U. S LABOR
BUREAU HAS IDENTIFIED SOLID
WASTE AND RECYCLING INDUSTRY AS
ONE OF THE TOP DEADLIEST
INDUSTRIES AND JOBS IN THE
COUNTRY. THIS DOES INCLUDE
EXPOSURES DURING THE
DECONSTRUCTION PROCESS, SO WE
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN I VOTE
ON THIS BILL BECAUSE IT REALLY
ADDRESSES THE PROBLEM BEFORE IT
EVEN ENTERS THE MARKET SO THAT
WE CAN PREVENT UNDUE UNJUST
EXPOSURES IN THE RECYCLING
PROCESSES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
. ALL RIGHT. NOW, LET'S GO BACK
TO THE ROOM. IF YOU WISH TO ADD
YOUR SUPPORT, PLEASE COME TO
MICROPHONE NAME ORGANIZATION.
AND YOUR POSITION ON THE BILL
AND SUPPORT, I GUESS. DARRELL
LITTLE ON BEHALF OF NRDC IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. ANDREA
VENTURA WITH CLEAN WATER ACTION
LATE IN GETTING A LETTER IN, BUT
WE DO SUPPORT THIS BILL. BUTLER
CALIFORNIANS AGAINST WASTE AND
SUPPORT. THANK YOU HAVE ANY
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WISH
TO TESTIFY IN OPPOSITION TO THIS
BILL, PLEASE COME FORWARD. DEAN
TALLY ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA MANUFACTURING
TECHNOLOGY ASSOCIATION. WE
ORIGINALLY HAD A NEUTRAL
POSITION ON THE BILL, AND I
CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THE INTENT
AS BEING SOMEONE THAT'S HAD
FIBERGLASS POISONING FROM
INSULATION. BUT THE NEW
AMENDMENTS OF APRIL 10TH DO
INCLUDE, UH, FLAME RETARDANT
CHEMICALS WE FEEL LIKE THAT IS A
BROAD SCOPE CHANGE, AND
UNFORTUNATELY WE HAVE TO CHANGE
PROPOSAL AS AMENDED POSITION.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.
ANYONE ELSE? SAYING NOW LET'S GO
TO THE PHONE LINES FOR SUPPORT
OR OPPOSITION FROM MODERATOR.
WHO WISH TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL, PLEASE
PRESS ONE THAN 00. WE'RE GOING
TO GO TO LINE 1 21. YOUR LINE IS
NOW OPEN. THIS IS PIPER PRIMROSE
OF NONTOXIC SPOOLS, MARIN COUNTY
AND WE'RE STRONG SUPPORT OF THIS
BILL AS AMENDED. LINE 1 18. YOUR
LINE IS NOW OPEN. JORDAN WELLS
ON BEHALF OF THE NATIONAL
STEWARDSHIP, ACTION COUNCIL AND
STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU. LINE
1 15. YOUR LINE IS NOW OPEN. AND
I SUPPORT SIZE, CLEAN EARTH FOR
KIDS AND CALIFORNIA NURSES FOR
ENVIRONMENTAL, HEALTH AND
JUSTICE. SUPPORT AS AMENDED.
LINE 1 25. YOUR LINE IS NOW
OPEN. CATHERINE DODD FAMILIES
ADVOCATING FOR COUNT TOXIC
CHEMICAL AND TOXIC EXACTLY WE
SUPPORT. MR CHAIR. ONE MOMENT WE
HAVE ONE MORE PERSON WHO
SIGNALED THAT THEY WISH TO
SPEAK.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MR CHAIRMAN
MEMBERS. I'M RYAN, TRAINER,
PRESIDENT OF THE INTERNATIONAL
SLEEP PRODUCTS ASSOCIATION, THE
MATTRESS INDUSTRY TRADE
ASSOCIATION. REGRETTABLY WE ARE
HERE CONCERNED ABOUT ONE
PROVISION IN AMENDED A B 10 59
TO BE CLEAR. MY INTEREST
INDUSTRY SUPPORTS THEM.
AMENDMENTS THAT DEFINED
FIBERGLASS PROVIDE A PHASE OUT
DATE ENFORCEMENT. WE ALSO
APPRECIATE THE PRODUCTIVE
CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD WITH THE
SIMPLE MEMBER OF FRIEDMAN'S
OFFICE, THE SPONSOR AND THE
COMMITTEE ON THE FIBERGLASS
ISSUE IS CONCERNED IS WITH ONE
AMENDMENT THAT RECENTLY EMERGED
, WHICH EXPANDS THE BILLS SCOPE
FAR BEYOND FIBERGLASS, AND NOW
REMOVES AN EXISTING EXEMPTION
WHICH COULD JEOPARDIZE OUR
CONTINUED USE OF CERTAIN FIBERS,
CERTAIN OTHER FIBERS AND
MATTRESSES. THIS AMENDMENT WAS
MADE BASED ON CONCERNS WITH THE
MAJESTY INDUSTRY COULD REPLACE
FIBERGLASS WITH HARMFUL
SUBSTITUTES AGAIN TO BE CLEAR
THE INDUSTRY IS NOT USING AND
WILL NOT ADD ANY OF THOSE FLAME
RETARDANT CHEMICALS TO THE
SUBSTITUTE BARRIER MATERIALS,
BUT WE ARE CONCERNED THAT THE
BROAD WORDING USED TO DEFINE
BAND FLAME RETARDANT CHEMICALS
COULD BE INTERPRETED TO RESTRICT
MATTRESS COMPANIES FROM USING
TWO FIBERS. WE HAVE USED SAFELY
FOR YEARS TO MEET THE FEDERAL
FLAMMABILITY STANDARDS IN THE
STREET BY THE U. S CONSUMER
PRODUCT SAFETY COMMISSION. THESE
FIBERS ARE CRITICAL TO REDUCING
DEATHS, INJURIES AND PROPERTY
DAMAGE CAUSED BY MATTRESS FIRES.
SAFETY OF THESE FIBERS IS WELL
DOCUMENTED BY SCIENTIFIC TESTING
. THESE FIBERS THEMSELVES ARE
NOT FLAME RETARDANT CHEMICALS,
BUT ARE INHERENTLY FIRE
RESISTANT. STILL WE REMAIN
CONCERNED THEY COULD BE CAPTURED
UNDER THE BILLS VERY BROAD
DEFINITIONS UPON LEARNING OF THE
BILL WOULD BE EXPANDED THE
PROPOSED TO EXEMPT THESE FIBERS
FROM THE PROHIBITION OR CONCERNS
COULD ALSO BE ADDRESSED IF THE
ENFORCEMENT AGENCY CAN CONFIRM
THAT THESE FIBERS WOULD NOT BE
CAPTURED UNDER THE SCOPE OF THE
PROHIBITION. IN APPROACHING THIS
PROBLEM, WE URGED THE
LEGISLATURE AND REGULATORS TO BE
GUIDED BY THE SCIENCE, WHICH
DEMONSTRATES THE THESE FIBERS
SHOULD NOT BE BANNED, BUT WILL
CONTINUE WORKING WITH
STAKEHOLDERS TO PROVIDE FOR THE
MORE ROBUST SCIENCE BASED
DISCUSSION THAT THIS LEGISLATION
DESERVES. BUT ABSENT ADEQUATE
TIME WE REMAIN CONCERNED. THANK
YOU FOR YOUR TIME. ALRIGHT THANK
YOU. NOW BRING IT BACK TO
COMMITTEE ANY QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS FROM COMMITTEE MEMBERS?
MR CHAIR. PARDON ME. WE DO WE DO
APOLOGIZE. WE WERE UNAWARE THAT
THERE WERE ADDITIONAL WITNESSES
THAT NEEDED TO SPEAK. WE DID
HAVE ONE MORE PERSON WHO WISHED
TO SIGNAL THEIR SUPPORTER
OPPOSITION. AND THATS LINE. 1 24
, PLEASE GO AHEAD. THAT LAST
ONE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
LINDSEY SNOW GROWING SOLUTIONS
FUND AND JONAS PHILANTHROPIES
AND STRONG SUPPORT OF PROTECTING
OUR CHILDREN. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU, MR CHAIR. ALRIGHT YOUR
HOOVER. THANK YOU. I JUST HAD A
QUICK QUESTION ABOUT THE AND I'M
NOT SUPER FAMILIAR WITH THIS
ISSUE AREA, SO I'M JUST CURIOUS
ON THE FEDERAL REGULATIONS FOR
AH, FLAMMABILITY STANDARDS AND
HOW THIS IS GOING TO IMPACT THE
ABILITY OF THE INDUSTRY TO, UM
TO KIND OF MEET THOSE STANDARDS,
WHILE ALSO YOU KNOW, COMPLYING
WITH THIS BILL, SO I WAS JUST
CURIOUS WHAT YOUR RESPONSE MIGHT
BE ON THAT ONE. SURE. WELL,
FIRST, I WANT TO THANK THE
INTERNATIONAL PRODUCT SLEEP
PRODUCT ASSOCIATION, WHO YOU
HEARD SPEAK. THEY'VE BEEN REALLY
WONDERFUL TO WORK WITH. AND
WE'VE HAD VERY PRODUCTIVE
CONVERSATIONS. WE HAVE AMENDED
THE BILL BASED ON THEIR FEEDBACK
, AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK
WITH THEM TO GET THE BILL INTO A
PLACE WHERE, UM, WE'RE ABLE TO
ADDRESS THEIR CONCERNS, WHICH,
AS YOU HEARD, ARE FAIRLY NARROW
THERE ABOUT WHAT THEY'LL BE ABLE
TO USE THIS SUBSTITUTION,
WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
WAY THE AMENDMENT IS WORDED,
ALLOWS THEM TO USE NONTOXIC
REPLACEMENTS. SO WE'RE NOT AT
ALL TRYING TO UNDERCUT FEDERAL
FLAMMABILITY STANDARDS. AND WE
KNOW THAT AND THE INDUSTRY ALSO
RECOGNIZES THAT THEY CAN MEET
THAT WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THIS
BILL. IT'S REALLY A QUESTION OF
WORTHINESS IN THE RIGHT WAY TO
ALLOW THEM TO USE ALTERNATIVE
FIBERS, BUT NOT TO ALLOW THEM TO
USE. LET'S SAY FLAME RETARDANT
CHEMICALS, AND I'LL SAY PART OF
THE CONCERN IS NOT NECESSARILY
OUR HOMEGROWN INDUSTRY. HERE.
IT'S WHAT PEOPLE ARE BUYING
ONLINE AND HAVING SHIPPED IN
FROM OVERSEAS. AND SO EVEN
THOUGH WE MAY TRUST OUR OWN
INDUSTRY TO KIND OF SELF
REGULATE. WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE
THAT IN THE BILL THAT WHEN WE
GET RID OF THE FIBERGLASS WE
DON'T HAVE LET'S SAY A FOREIGN
MANUFACTURER SOAKING THE PRODUCT
WITH THE OUTSIDE OF THE PRODUCT
WITH FLAME RETARDANT CHEMICALS
THAT WE DON'T WANT TO BE USED,
WHICH IS WHY THE BILL EXPANDS
THE BAN ON USING THE FLAME
RETARDANT CHEMICALS IN FOAM TO
THE EXTERIOR OF THE MATTRESS,
BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE A CHEAP
SOLUTION THAT THAT NO ONE WANTS
TO SEE. SO WE'RE NOT TRYING TO
UNDERCUT THOSE FEDERAL REGS. WE
JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
DON'T YOU KNOW, WHILE WE TRY TO
MEET THEM ALLOW FOR SUBSTANCES
THAT WE KNOW ARE VERY HARMFUL TO
HUMAN HEALTH. SURE. ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS IN NONE. I
WILL INVITE THE AUTHOR TO CLOSE
. JUST YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN
HAVING YOU KNOW, OUR WORK WITH
INDUSTRY HAS BEEN REALLY GREAT
ON THIS. WE WANT TO CONTINUE
WORKING WITH THEM AND, YOU KNOW,
WE THINK THE BILLS AND GETTING
INTO A REALLY GOOD PLACE AND
HOPEFULLY SOON WE NONE OF US ARE
GOING TO HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT
HEALTH EFFECTS. FROM WHAT WE'RE
SLEEPING ON EVERY NIGHT. I WOULD
REQUEST AN AYE. VOTE. THANK YOU.
AND MOVE THE BILL MOVING
SECONDED. I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU
SOMEWHERE. FRIEDMAN HER STAFF
AND SPONSORS WORKING WITH US, UH
, AND THE ECM STAFF ON THIS
BILL, I'M PLEASED THE FIBERGLASS
PROHIBITION IN THE BILL WILL NOW
BE ENFORCED BY THE BUREAU OF
HOUSEHOLD GOODS AND SERVICES. WE
HAVE MET WITH THE BUREAU AND
THEY TEST MATTRESSES AND
UPHOLSTERED FURNITURE MONTHLY
FOR COMPLIANCE WITH PROHIBITIONS
OF FLAME RETARDANT CHEMICALS.
THROUGH THIS BILL. THEY WILL
ALSO CHECK THE SAME PRODUCTS FOR
FIBERGLASS AND TAKE ENFORCEMENT
ACTIONS WHEN NECESSARY. THERE
ISN'T ALWAYS SUCH A GOOD FIT FOR
AN ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM. BUT
PERHAPS THIS IS A MODEL WE CAN
LOOK TO AS WE DISCUSS
ENFORCEMENT FOR OTHER CHEMICAL
PROVISIONS RECOMMENDING AN AYE
VOTE AND THE EMOTION WILL BE DUE
PAST APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE.
MADAM SECRETARY PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL. ITEM EIGHT. MAYBE 10 59
FRIEDMAN. THE MOTION IS DO PASS
AND WE REFER TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS LI LI I HOOVER
HOOVER, NOT VOTING ARAMBULA.
BAUER-KAHAN BAUER-KAHAN, AYE,
CONNOLLY. CONNOLLY I MAKIN ER
MAKIN HER EYE, BUT CHICO CHICO,
I TA SUBURB. ZEBRA THAT HASN'T
EFFORTS 1236. YEAH SIX VOTES.
THAT'S OUT. CONGRATULATIONS.
SO NOW WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO
ITEM NUMBER SEVEN ASSEMBLY BILL
899 BY SOMEONE REMEMBER SUKI,
WHICH DEAL WITH TOXIC HEAVY
METALS AND INFANT FORMULA AND
BABY FOOD. SO SOME OF MY
RESEARCH YOU WHEN YOU ARE READY
. BYE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR
CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE. I AM HERE TO PRESENT
A B 899. UM, FIRST OF ALL, I
WANT TO THANK YOUR COMMITTEE'S
WORK ON THIS AND I WILL BE
ACCEPTING ALL AMENDMENTS. UM AND
WANT TO SHARE THAT THAT THIS
BILL IDEA, ACTUALLY. WE HAD
AMENDMENTS, RIGHT? NO. OKAY?
OKAY ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT I. I WAS I
WAS TOLD BY STAFF THAT THEIR
AMENDMENTS BUT NO. OKAY, UM ALL
RIGHT. WELL, I WANT TO SHARE
THIS THIS STORY. IT'S A NICE
LITTLE CAPITAL STORY. I MEAN,
THIS BILL IDEA ACTUALLY CAME
FROM ONE OF MY STAFF WHO
RECENTLY HAD A BABY AND DON'T
YOU KNOW, DOING ALL THE
RESEARCH? UH IN TERMS OF INFANT
FORMULA AND BABY FOOD, SHE
REALIZED LIKE THE LACK OF
REGULATION OF THE LACK OF
PROTECTIONS FOR, UH FOR BABIES
IN TERMS OF TOXIC METALS, AND,
UH THESE FOOD PRODUCTS AND, UH
YOU KNOW, SHE CAME ACROSS HOW
THE FEDERAL CONGRESS HAS BEEN
LOOKING INTO THIS ISSUE. THEY
SUBCOMMITTEE ON ECONOMIC AND
CONSUMER POLICY. UM THEY LOOKED
INTO THIS ISSUE AND ON IN
FEBRUARY OF 2021, THEY'RE
RELEASED A REPORT THAT KIND OF
LIKE, SUMMARIZES WHAT WE'RE
TRYING TO ADDRESS HERE THERE.
THE REPORT THAT THE FINDINGS
INDICATE THAT COMMERCIAL BABY
FOODS ARE TAINTED WITH A
SIGNIFICANT LEVELS OF TOXIC
HEAVY METALS, INCLUDING ARSENIC
LEAD. CADMIUM AND MERCURY.
EXPOSURE TO TOXIC HEAVY METALS
CAUSES PERMANENT DECREASES IN
LIKE DIMINISHED FUTURE ECONOMIC
PRODUCTIVITY AND INCREASED RISK
OF FUTURE CRIMINAL AND
ANTISOCIAL BEHAVIOR IN CHILDREN.
TOXIC METALS AND DANGER, INFANT
NEUROLOGICAL DEVELOPMENT AND
LONG TERM BRAIN FUNCTION. AND SO
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THAT'S THAT'S
PRETTY HEAVY STUFF, RIGHT? I
MEAN, IT'S A IT JUST CAPTURES IT
AND THAT THAT SHORT PARAGRAPH
THERE AND SO, UH THIS BILL IS
ATTEMPTING TO PROTECT BABIES
FROM FROM TOXIC METALS BY BY, UM
YOU KNOW, IT'S A TRANSPARENCY
MEASURE. IT'S A TRANSPARENCY AS
WELL. AS YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY,
ACCOUNTABILITY IN TERMS OF
GETTING THESE THESE BABY FOOD
AND INFANT FORMULA MANUFACTURERS
TO, UH. BE TRANSPARENT IN TERMS
OF REQUIRING THEM TO TEST THEIR
FINAL PRODUCTS, UH, AND TO POST
THAT INFORMATION, UM I KNOW THAT
THERE MAY BE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT
ABOUT. YOU KNOW THE NEED FOR
FURTHER FDA ACTION, BUT I
BELIEVE THAT THIS IS ANOTHER
EXAMPLE WHERE CALIFORNIA NEEDS
TO LEAD AND PROTECTING OUR
BABIES BY BY, UH, SHINING A
SPOTLIGHT ON THIS ISSUE,
PROVIDING CONSUMER TRANSPARENCY
. UM AND SO HERE WE ARE. I WOULD
LIKE TO, UH THANK YOU. UM LIKE
TO ASK SUSAN LITTLE WHAT THE I
MISSED THIS COMMITTEE. YOU HAVE
SO MUCH FUN. YEAH IT'S ISN'T
LITTLE WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL
WORKING GROUP. THANK YOU AND, UM
. FIRST I JUST WANTED TO BEGIN.
MY NAME IS SUSAN LITTLE IVAN AND
SENIOR ADVOCATE WITH THE
ENVIRONMENTAL WORKING GROUP. AND
I'D FIRST LIKE TO THANK THE
ASSEMBLY MEMBER FOR AUTHORING.
THIS BILL, WHICH HAS, HE'S
EXPLAINED, WILL INFORM PARENTS
ABOUT THE HEAVY METALS LURKING
IN THE FOOD THAT FEED THEIR
INFANTS. TO DATE, THIS
INFORMATION HAS BEEN LARGELY A
MYSTERY, THE PRESENCE OF HIGH
LEVELS OF LEAD, MERCURY, ARSENIC
AND CADMIUM AND BABY FOOD HAS
ONLY BEEN BROUGHT TO LIGHT AS A
RESULT OF THIRD PARTY TESTING OR
OR OR ACTS OF CONGRESS. THESE
DISCLOSURES HAVE DEMONSTRATED
THAT ALARMINGLY HIGH LEVELS OF
TOXIC METALS ARE PRESENT IN
THESE FOODS. UM THAT THERE ARE
TOXIC METALS AND BABY FOOD
SHOULD CAUSE US ALL CONCERNED
BECAUSE THE INGESTION OF EVEN
LOW LEVELS OF THESE METALS AS
THE ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S MENTIONED
WHICH BUILD UP OVER TIME CAN
CAUSE INFANTS AND TODDLERS,
GRAVE HEALTH EFFECTS, AND ALL OF
I CAN GO THROUGH A LIST OF ALL
THE DIFFERENT CHEMICALS AND
THEIR DIFFERENT TOXIC EFFECTS.
BUT I THINK THAT THEY'RE ALREADY
WELL KNOWN TO THIS COMMITTEE. UM
SO NONE OF THESE MEDALS SHOULD
BE PRESENT IN BABY FOOD ARE FED
TO CHILDREN, EVEN AT LOW LEVELS,
BABY FOOD MANUFACTURERS. UM IT'S
THE ENVIRONMENTAL WORKING
GROUP'S POSITION THAT THEY
SHOULD TEST THEIR PRODUCTS FOR
THESE TOXINS AND BE VERY
TRANSPARENT ABOUT THE LEVELS OF
THE TOXINS IN THEIR PRODUCTS. UM
AND DISCLOSE THOSE LEVELS TO
CONSUMERS, BECAUSE ONLY THAT IS
THE ONLY WAY THEY'LL BE ABLE TO
PROTECT THEIR KIDS. AMAZINGLY
SUCH PROTECTIONS ARE NOT
CURRENTLY REQUIRED. A B 8 99
WILL CLOSEST GAP WILL, UM SERVE
CONSUMERS AND GIVE CALIFORNIANS
THE INFORMATION THEY NEED TO
PROTECT THEIR INFANTS FROM TOXIC
METALS THAT CAN IMPAIR THEIR
DEVELOPMENT. AND HARM THEIR LIFE
OUTCOMES. SO WE'D APPRECIATE
YOUR SUPPORT FOR THIS BILL.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU
. DO YOU HAVE ANY MEMBERS OF THE
PUBLIC WHO WISH TO HAVE THEIR
SUPPORT TO THIS BILL, PLEASE
COME FORWARD TO THE MICROPHONE.
NOW ANY MEMBERS OF PUBLIC
ALRIGHT SEEING ON ANY MEMBERS OF
PUBLIC IN THE HEARING ROOM,
WHICH TESTIFY IN OPPOSITION TO
THE BILL. SEEING AND PHONE
MODERATOR. DO WE HAVE ANY
WITNESSES ON THE PHONE IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO A B
899? HMM. WHO WISH TO SPEAK IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION. PLEASE
PRESS ONE THAN ZERO. THAT'S
RIGHT. GO TO GO TO LINE 1 25.
AVERAGE TRIPS WITH FAMILIES
ADVOCATE CAVING FOR CHEMICAL AND
TALK TO SAFETY. WE ARE IN
SUPPORT, KEEP OUR BABIES SAFE.
LINE 1 15 YEAR, LINUS NOW OPEN.
AND THAT SUPPORT SIZE CALIFORNIA
NURSES FOR ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH
AND JUSTICE AND CLEAN EARTH FOR
KIDS SUPPORT. LINE 1 24 YEAR
LINE IS NOW OPEN. MRS LANDRY
PURCELL WITH GROWING SOLUTIONS
FUND AND WITH JONAS
PHILANTHROPIES AND STRONG
SUPPORT. LINE 1 28. YOUR LINE IS
NOW OPEN. THE GIANT BORRADOR
WITH CLEANER THREE KIDS AT
OREGON STRONG SUPPORT. AND MR
CHAIR. THERE WAS NO ONE IN THE
PUBLIC TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION. GREAT. LET'S BRING
IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE. ANY
QUESTIONS? COMMENTS THIS BILL
HAS BEEN MOTIONS. I CAN MISS
SOMEONE MAKIN HER FIRST AND THEN
THE SIMILAR CONNOLLY WEEKENDER,
THEN YES, ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S, UM,
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS UP.
I COMMEND YOU FOR LOOKING AFTER
OUR BABIES. JUST ONE QUESTION. I
KNOW THERE IS A DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN BABY FOOD AND FORMULA,
RIGHT? UM WITH THE FORMULA. OH,
I HATE THAT. I'M HEARING ABOUT
ALL THIS TOXIC STUFF IN IT AS
WELL. BUT IS THERE ANY SO IS
THERE AND WE WORKED WITH ANYBODY
TO SEE WHAT WE'RE GONNA USE?
ONCE WE GET RID OF THIS THIS
PARTICULAR FORMULA BECAUSE WE
KNOW THAT WITH BABIES IS ONLY
LIKE BREAST MILK AND FORMULA,
RIGHT. SO IS THERE ANY DO YOU
GUYS KNOW WHAT? WHAT? WE'RE
GOING TO REPLACE IT WITH THEM?
YEAH. NO, I SHOULD EMPHASIZE, UH
THAT WE'RE NOT TRYING TO BAN
ANYTHING, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO,
UH ARM MOTHERS, FATHERS. UH YOUR
FAMILIES WITH THE INFORMATION SO
THAT THEY CAN MAKE INFORMED
DECISIONS ON THEIR OWN, AND
HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, BY SHINING
THAT LIGHT ON THESE
MANUFACTURERS TO, YOU KNOW,
PROMPT THE MANUFACTURERS TO DO
EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO KEEP
THOSE METALS OUT. BUT WE'RE NOT
TALKING ABOUT ELIMINATING OR
LIMITING ANY OPTIONS FOR
FAMILIES. JUST ONE MORE. ONE
MORE. COME OUT, BUT YOU KNOW
ONCE WE READ IT LIKE IF I'M I'M
HAVING A GRANDCHILD, RIGHT? LIKE
ONCE I READ THAT I'M NOT GOING
TO WANT TO GIVE MY GRANDCHILD
SURE FORMULA. SO WE HAVE TO LOOK
AT WHAT WE'RE GONNA USE. YEAH
YEAH, AND SO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN
THAT THAT THAT'S A REAL ISSUE. I
MEAN, WE KNOW THAT YOU KNOW, WE
HAD THE SHORTAGE. AH DURING THE
PANDEMIC. UM BUT AGAIN, THIS IS
NOT, UH, YOU KNOW, SEEKING TO
LIMIT YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE'RE
WE'RE I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING,
UM BUT WE WERE TRYING TO PROVIDE
. WE'RE TRYING TO HELP PEOPLE BY
PROVIDING MORE INFORMATION. UM
AND, UH AND HOPEFULLY MAKE THE
PRODUCTS SAFER. YEAH. THAT'S
SIMPLY RESERVE. SO UM, THANK YOU
FOR BRINGING THIS BILL. UM, I
READ THE UM, COMMENTS OF THE
INFANT NUTRITION COUNCIL OF
AMERICA AND DID NOT FIND THEM
PERSUASIVE? AYE. YOU KNOW, UM
THEY BASICALLY SAID THAT THEY
TEST FOR ALL OF THESE
CONTAMINANTS. BUT THEY'RE NOT.
THEY DON'T SAY HOW THE PUBLIC
KNOWS ABOUT THE TEST SECOND
POINT, THEY SAID, IS THAT
THERE'S A FEDERAL REGULATORY
PROGRAM THAT'S AT THE BEGINNING
. THIS DOES TO ME ISN'T IN A
PLACE WHERE IT'S PROTECTIVE. YET
THIS DOESN'T SEEM TO BE
INCONSISTENT WITH THAT SEEMS TO
BE COMPLEMENTARY. YOU KNOW, THE
THIRD POINT THAT THEY RAISED WAS
THAT UM, MAKING PUBLIC THE
RESULTS OF ALL OF ARSENIC,
MERCURY CADMIUM MAKING THAT
PUBLIC MADE MIGHT MAKE THE
PUBLIC LOSE CONFIDENCE IN THE
FOOD. WELL I THINK THE WHOLE
POINT OF THIS IS THE
TRANSPARENCY SO THAT PEOPLE CAN
MAKE CHOICES AND PROTECT
THEMSELVES. AND THEN THE LAST
POINT WAS THAT THIS WOULD
REQUIRE A LABEL WHICH IS NOT
SOMETHING THAT TO ME. SEEMS LIKE
IT'S A BURDENSOME OBLIGATIONS.
SO I THINK THIS IS TOTALLY
REASONABLE. I THINK IT'S
COMPLIMENTARY WITH WHAT'S
HAPPENING AT THE FDA, AND I JUST
WANT TO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING
THE BILL WILL BE SUPPORTING IT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH REMINDER
THAT WHEN I'M IN FRONT OF MR
ZEBRA, I NEED TO MAKE SURE TO
READ ALL THE OPPOSITION LETTERS.
YEAH, THANK YOU. YEAH, SO
IMPRACTICAL. YES THANK YOU. SO
ACTUALLY, I HAD THE SAME
CONCERNS AS MY COLLEAGUE.
ASSEMBLY MEMBER, UM, MAKIN ER AH
, BECAUSE WHEN IT COMES TO FOOD
, BABY FOOD APPARENT, CAN ALWAYS
SELECT DIFFERENT TYPES OF BABY
FOOD. BUT I ALSO HAVE THE SAME
CONCERNS AS TO, UH, BABY FORMULA
. AND OF COURSE, I WANT TO MAKE
SURE OUR BABIES ARE SAFE AND I
MEAN, THAT'S THAT'S EXTREMELY
IMPORTANT. BUT, UM I THINK WE
REALLY NEED TO SEE IF THERE'S
ANY ALTERNATIVES. ONLY OPTIONS
ARE FORMULA. YOU KNOW,
BREASTFEEDING A CHILD AND A LOT
OF TIMES, UM ARE YOU KNOW ARE
THE MOTHERS ARE WORKING AND IT'S
REALLY DIFFICULT. UM, I WAS A
FORMULA, BABY BECAUSE MY MOM
WORKED ALL THE TIME. AND SO
THAT'S MY THAT'S MY CONCERN.
THEY'RE HOOVER. ALRIGHT ENOUGH.
OR WHAT? OKAY, YES. I SEE. UH
ABSOLUTELY IF I MADE THROUGH THE
CHAIR, THAT'S ALL I REMEMBER
HOOVER SPEAKER VERSUS OKAY. AND
THEN WE CAN HAVE BEEN CLOSED.
THANK YOU. UH I'M KIND OF ON THE
SAME TOPIC. SO THIS MIGHT ALL
THIS MIGHT ALL WORK HERE. I DO
HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. YOU
KNOW, I THINK, UM FIRST OF ALL,
YOU KNOW, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING
THAT SOME OF THESE CHEMICALS
THAT YOU'VE KIND OF IDENTIFIED
IN THIS BILL ARE ALSO CHEMICALS
THAT, UM. ARE ALSO IN BREAST
MILK OR CAN'T CAN BE IN BREAST
MILK, RIGHT? AND SO I GUESS MY
QUESTION IS, UM, THESE CHEMICALS
ARE PRESENT IN OUR WORLD. AND
YOU KNOW, THE QUESTION, I THINK
IS HAS THE FDA SET LIKE A SAFE
LEVEL IS THERE ARE THERE LEVELS
THAT WE KNOW ABOUT HER THAT HAVE
BEEN SET BY THE FDA THAT THIS
BILL IS TRYING TO MATCH OR MEAT
OR I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT THAT.
SURE SO IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING
THAT FDA IS IN THE PROCESS OF
SETTING THOSE LEVELS THEY'VE
MOVED FORWARD WITH, UM
CONTAMINANT LEVELS OF PROPOSED
LEVELS FOR LEAD. UM BUT THEY ARE
MOVING FORWARD. UM IN THERE, YOU
KNOW, IN THEIR PROCESS AND THEIR
TIME TO SET THESE LEVELS, AND SO
THAT'S WHY THIS BILL IS
INDICATING THAT, UM IS REQUIRING
MANUFACTURERS TO MOVE FORWARD
AND JUST AT LEAST TEST AND
DISCLOSED LEVELS AND THEN
INDICATE WHETHER OR NOT THEY ARE
MEETING ANY FDA LEVELS THAT ARE
ESTABLISHED ON THEIR LABEL. SO
IT'S NOT AN INCONSISTENT WITH
WHAT THE FDA IS MOVING FORWARD
WITH THAT, AS AS
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S OF BURR
MENTIONED, IT'S ACTUALLY
COMPLEMENTARY. OKAY SO THERE'S
GOING TO BE THE TESTING AND THEN
UM, BUT BUT UNTIL THERE ARE
LEVELS WE WON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT
IS SAFER. UNSAFE. IS THAT
CORRECT? AND UNTIL THOSE ARE
IDENTIFIED. THAT IS CORRECT. THE
F D A HAS INDICATED THAT THEY'RE
IN THE PROCESS OF DETERMINING
WHAT ARE SAFE LEVELS, BUT, UM
THEY? THEY'VE ONLY DONE IT FOR
LEAD. SO, UM Tð TO ADDRESS YOUR
CONCERN AS WELL AS, UH, MISS
PACHECO'S, UH, CONCERN LIKE
LIKE, SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, IF IT
WAS, YOU KNOW, THREE MG OF
ARSENIC, YOU KNOW, UH, THAT
WOULD BE DISCLOSED ON THE
PRODUCT AND THEN YOU SEE ANOTHER
PRODUCT, YOU KNOW? AH SAY WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT. ABOUT YOU KNOW,
INFANT FORMULA. UM ANOTHER BRAND
OF INFANT FORMULA HAS ONE MG OF
ARSENIC. YOU KNOW, WE DON'T.
WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THE
FDA. IN FACT, WE'RE HOPING THAT
THIS BILL, WILL WILL, YOU KNOW?
SPUR THE FDA TO ACT TO PROTECT
OUR BABIES BY ESTABLISHING THOSE
SAFETY STANDARDS. BUT IN THE
MEANTIME, YOU KNOW A PARENT CAN
LOOK AT THE ONE WITH THREE MG
AND THE ONE OF THE ONE MG, AND
IF IT'S YOU KNOW, IF IT WAS ME,
I'D BE PICKING THE ONE WITH THE
ONE MG. THAT'S HOW WE'RE NOT
BANNING OR LIMITING THE OPTIONS
, BUT WE'RE EMPOWERING PARENTS
WITH THAT INFORMATION. OKAY SO
WITH THAT SAID, YOU KNOW, I
APPRECIATE THE INTENT OF THIS
BILL. I WILL SAY THAT I WANT TO
GET TO A YES ON THIS BILL. I
THINK THAT THE I THINK MY
COLLEAGUE FROM LOS ANGELES IS
CORRECT THAT A PORTION OF THIS
BILL IS VERY REASONABLE, AND I
THINK THAT'S THE PORTION THAT
DEALS WITH BABY FOOD. I WOULD
SUPPORT THIS BILL IF AN
AMENDMENT WAS TAKEN TO REMOVE
FORMULA FROM THE BILL, AND THE
REASON FOR THAT IS AS WAS RAISED
BY MY OTHER COLLEAGUE. IS THAT,
UH, YOU KNOW, THERE I I'M I'M
STRUGGLING WITH WHAT A PARENT
AND BY THE WAY, I AM A PARENT OF
THREE. UH THIS IS SOMETHING THAT
IS VERY IMPACT. WE REFUSED TO
GIVE OUR KIDS STORE BOUGHT BABY
FOOD. WE MADE OUR OWN BABY FOOD,
BUT I THINK THE POINT OF THAT IS
THAT THERE ARE OPTIONS THAT
EXIST FOR FAMILIES. WHEN IT
COMES TO BABY FOOD. THERE ARE
OTHER OPTIONS THAT PARENTS CAN
USE WHEN IT COMES TO FORMULA OR
BREAST FEEDING OR BREAST MILK.
THERE REALLY AREN'T OPTIONS AND
SO I THINK WHAT I'M STRUGGLING
WITH IS UNTIL YOU KNOW, UM WITH
WITHOUT THAT OPTION, WHAT IS A
CONSUMER TO DO OR A PARENT, A
NEW PARENT TO DO WITH THE
INFORMATION GIVEN TO THEM IF
THERE ARE NO GOOD ALTERNATIVES,
UM AND SO I THINK THAT'S WHY I'M
STRUGGLING WITH THE FORMULA PART
OF THIS BILL. UM SO JUST SO YOU
KNOW, AS I'LL CONTINUE TO KEEP
AN EYE ON THE BILL, BUT THAT'S
THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M AT
RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU. OR ANY
OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS SEEING
AND I'LL INVITE THE AUTHOR TO
CLOSE. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE
ALL OF THE COMMENTS AND
CONCERNS. UM I AGAIN, YOU KNOW.
NOTHING IN THIS BILL IS GOING TO
LIMIT OPTIONS. IT'S IT'S NOT
GOING TO LIMIT OPTIONS, BUT IT'S
AH! GIVING IT'S EMPOWERING
CONSUMERS WITH MORE INFORMATION
TO MAKE CHOICES. AH, SO.
CURRENTLY IF THERE ARE THREE
INFANT FORMULA PRODUCTS ON THE
MARKET. THERE'S NOTHING IN THIS
BILL IS GOING TO LIMIT ANY OF
THOSE THREE OPTIONS. WHAT IS
GOING TO DO IS JUST IS TO
PROVIDE A BASIS OF COMPARISON
FOR THOSE THREE OPTIONS, SO AH,
IF YOU'RE SEEING SOMETHING THAT
I'M NOT SEEING IN TERMS OF HOW
THIS MIGHT LIMIT OPTIONS THAN
THEN, YOU KNOW, WOULD LOVE TO
WORK WITH YOU ON THAT. UM, BUT I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR I VOTE. ALL
RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH SALMA
FOR BRINGING THIS BILL FORWARD
AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR GENEROUS
COOPERATION THAT YOU'D EVEN BE
WILLING TO TAKE MORE AMENDMENTS
SO THAT THANK YOU FOR THAT, BUT
I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE THIS
GREAT CONVERSATION. WE HAVE
THAT, OF COURSE. HEAVY METALS
LIKE ARSENIC, CADMIUM, LEAD AND
MERCURY CAN CAUSE IRREVERSIBLE
DAMAGE AND HAVE NO PLACE IN THE
INFANT FORMULA AND BABY FOOD. IT
WAS NORTH LEAD. THERE IS NO REAL
SAFE. LEVEL AT ALL. AND SADLY,
WE KNOW FROM THE RESULTS FROM
THE RECENT CONGRESSIONAL
INVESTIGATIONS AND LAWSUITS
BROUGHT BY THE CALIFORNIA A G
ATTORNEY GENERAL, THE HEAVY
METALS DO OCCUR IN THESE
PRODUCTS. THIS BILL, A B 19
COULD STRENGTHEN PROTECTIONS FOR
YOUNG CHILDREN WHO ARE
ESPECIALLY VULNERABLE TO
NEGATIVE EFFECTS OF HEAVY METALS
, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE OF DILEMMA.
WE TALKED ABOUT TODAY, WHERE
PARENTS OFTEN HAVE REAL, NO
CHOICE, BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO
BE BOX INTO AN ESSENTIAL CHOICE
. YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT
DOESN'T HAVE THESE HEAVY, HEAVY
METAL PRESENCE, AND CERTAINLY WE
WOULDN'T WANT. I KNOW IT'S A
HYPOTHETICAL EXAMPLE. WE DON'T
WANT WE WON'T EVEN WANT ONE MG
OF ARSENIC. THAT'S A LOT OF
ARSENIC AND BABY FORMULA, BUT
HE'S DEFINITELY WITH WANT TO ARM
PARENTS WITH AS MUCH INFORMATION
AS POSSIBLE, ESPECIALLY IF
THEY'RE CORNERED IN THE ONLY
CHOOSING ONE. SO I'M GOING TO
RECOMMEND AND I VOTE. IT HAS
ALREADY BEEN MOTION AND SECOND.
HIM. UH MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL. ITEMS SEVEN A B 8
99 MURATSUCHI. THE MOTION IS DO
PASS AND RE REFERRED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS. LI
LI I HOOVER HOOVER, NOT VOTING
ARAMBULA. BAUER-KAHAN
BAUER-KAHAN, AYE, CONNOLLY.
CONNOLLY I MAKIN ER MCKENNA. I
PACHECO HØI TALK. AH ZILBER.
HOWEVER I THANK YOU. THAT IS
OUT. CONGRATULATIONS TO SAY
WHATEVER. AND SINCE THAT WE'RE
ALL HERE. LET'S JUST MOVE
QUICKLY TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR
AND SENT CALENDAR. CAN I GET A
MOTION A SECOND ON THE CONSENT
CALENDAR? THANK YOU. MOVED AND
SECONDED TO CONSENT CALENDAR.
MADAM SECRETARY. IF YOU COULD
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL FOR THE
CONSENT CALENDAR CONSENT
CALENDAR CONSISTS OF THE
FOLLOWING FOR A B 8 61 SANTIAGO
AND A B 9 90 GRAYSON. THE MOTION
IS DO PASS AND RE REFERRED TO
THE COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
CONTENT, CALENDAR AND FOR A B 15
97 OLIVAREZ. THE MOTION IS DO
PASS AND RE REFERRED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY CONSENT
CALENDAR LEÓN. LEE I. HOOVER
HOOVER. I ARAMBULA. BAUER-KAHAN
BAUER-KAHAN, AYE, CONNOLLY.
CONNOLLY I MAKIN ER ER I PACHECO
PACHECO, I TALK ZABAR CONSENT
CALENDAR HAS BEEN PASSED
CALENDARS OUT. ALRIGHT, LET'S GO
TO ITEM NUMBER 10
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S BAR HANDS A B
10 42, WHICH DEALS WITH
PESTICIDES AND SEEDS. YOU MAY
BEGIN WHEN READY. THANK YOU. AND
I PROMISED OUR COLLEAGUE MR
GARCIA THAT I WOULD BE EFFICIENT
SO I DO MY BEST. THANK YOU, MR
CHAIR AND MEMBERS. I'M PROUD TO
PRESENT A B 10 42. WHICH IS AN
INCREDIBLY SIMPLE BILL THAT
ENSURES THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF
PESTICIDES REGULATION ACTUALLY
REGULATES ALL THE PESTICIDES IN
OUR PHONE SYSTEM. TO BE VERY
CLEAR. THIS BILL IS NOT A BAN.
IT BANS NOTHING. IT MERELY
ENSURES THAT DPR HAS THE ABILITY
TO REGULATE PESTICIDES THAT ARE
SPRAYED IN ADDITION TO
PESTICIDES THAT ARE ON SEATS,
CALIFORNIA IS ONE OF THE
STRONGEST AND BEST FUNDED
PESTICIDE REGULATORS IN THE
NATION. HOWEVER CALIFORNIANS ARE
CURRENTLY EXPOSED TO A WIDE
RANGE OF UNREGULATED PESTICIDES
AND UNMONITORED AMOUNTS SIMPLY
BECAUSE THEY WERE UNTREATED
SEEDS INSTEAD OF PERIOD ON
CROPS. SEEDS ARE NOT STATIC
SEEDS ARE PLANTED IN SOIL.
THEY'RE WATERED AND THEY BECOME
PLANTS. EVERY ELEMENT OF THE
PROCESS. SOIL WATER AND CROPS
CAN THEREFORE BE AVENUES FOR
UNREGULATED PESTICIDE
CONTAMINATION, PUTTING FARM
WORKERS, THE ENVIRONMENT AND OUR
FOOD SYSTEM AT RISK. AH! I'M
SURE THERE WILL BE A LOT OF
QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW MANY SEEDS
ARE TREATED. WE DON'T KNOW.
BECAUSE THIS IS CURRENTLY
UNREGULATED AND, UH, PAST ASIDE
THAT ARE BANNED IN CALIFORNIA
ARE COMING IN ON THESE SEATS,
AND SO WE ARE MERELY TRYING TO
EXPAND THE AUTHORITY OF THE
DEPARTMENT OF PESTICIDE
REGULATION. OR, AS I WOULD
ARGUE, CLARIFY THE AUTHORITY OF
THE DEPARTMENT OF PESTICIDE
REGULATION THAT THEY SHOULD BE
REGULATING ALL PESTICIDES,
INCLUDING THOSE ON SEEDS WITH ME
TODAY IS LARA DEMAND FROM
ENVIRONMENT, CALIFORNIA THANK
YOU. THANKS UM, SO THANK YOU
COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND LAURA DE
KHN WITH ENVIRONMENT,
CALIFORNIA STATE DIRECTOR AND
WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO BE
WORKING WITH ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
BECCA BAUER-KAHAN AND ALSO WITH
THE AMERICAN BIRD CONSERVANCY TO
SUPPORT A BEAUTY 10 42. THIS
BILL IS REALLY NECESSARY TO
PROTECT BIRDS AND BEES AND
EVERYONE WHO RELIES ON A HEALTHY
ENVIRONMENT. WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE
RIGHT NOW OF WHAT MANY ARE
CALLING AN INSECT APOCALYPSE AND
WE'RE SEEING DRAMATIC
BIODIVERSITY LOSS HAPPENING.
WHICH REALLY THREATENS THE WEB
OF LIFE IN WHICH WE ALL RELY ON
A RECENT STUDY FOUND THAT
AMERICA'S AGRICULTURAL LANDSCAPE
IS 48 TIMES MORE TOXIC THAN IT
WAS 25 YEARS AGO. AND ODDLY,
WHEN IS A PESTICIDE NOT BEING
CONSIDERED A PESTICIDE? WELL
APPARENTLY WHEN IT'S QUOTED ONTO
SEATS THAT ARE BEING PLANTED IN
THE GROUND, BUT FOR DECADES NOW
, COMPANIES HAVE BEEN TREATING
SEEDS WITH TOXIC PESTICIDES AND
BECAUSE OF THIS LOOPHOLE IN THE
LAW, AND THE USE OF PESTICIDES
ON SEATS IS NOT BEING OVERSEEN
BY OUR OWN DEPARTMENT OF
PESTICIDE REGULATION. EXPERTS
ESTIMATE THAT THIS UNTRACKED
SOURCE OF PESTICIDES IS REALLY
SIGNIFICANT TODAY AND THAT IT'S
AFFECTING THE ENVIRONMENT THAT
IS AFFECTING HUMAN HEALTH AND
BIODIVERSITY. WHAT'S HAPPENING
WHEN THE PESTICIDES ARE APPLIED
ON SEEDS AS THEY GROW INTO EVERY
PART OF THE PLANT, THE SLOTH OFF
AS DUST IN THE ENVIRONMENT, AND
THEY CONTAMINATE THE SOIL AND
THE WATER LIKE THE STREAMS AND
PONDS, BEES BRING THOSE
PESTICIDES BACK TO THEIR HIVES
WHERE IT'S BEEN LINKED TO COLONY
COLLAPSE DISORDER AND ALSO
MIGRATING SONGBIRDS HAVE BEEN
FOUND TO ACTUALLY EAT SEEDS OR
EAT PARTS OF THE SEEDS. IT THEN
SUPPRESSES. THEIR APPETITE
AFFECTS REPRODUCTION, AND THOSE
SAME CHEMICALS THREATEN HUMAN
HEALTH AS WELL. SO THIS
IMPORTANT BILL WILL CLOSE. THIS
LOOPHOLE CONFIRMED THAT SEEDS
TREATED WITH PESTICIDES SHOULD
BE TRACKED MONITORED AND THE
ACTION SHOULD BE TAKEN TO
PROTECT HEALTH BY THE DEPARTMENT
OF PESTICIDE REGULATIONS, SO WE
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR MY VOTE. WE
HAVE LUCAS ROADS ON THE PHONE,
BUT HE CAN JUST BE AVAILABLE FOR
QUESTIONS AS NECESSARY. ALRIGHT
DC I APPRECIATE THAT. UM IS THAT
OKAY? YES, IT'S OK. SO IF THERE
ARE ANY WITNESSES AS SORRY IF
THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC
WHO WISH TO ADD THEIR SUPPORTS
THE BILL, PLEASE COME FORWARD TO
THE MICROPHONE. BILAL LEO
ENVIRONMENTAL WORKING GROUP.
THANK YOU. THIS AGAIN ON BEHALF
OF THE PESTICIDE ACTION NETWORK
AND CALIFORNIANS FOR PESTICIDE
REFORM AND SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
THEY'RE A LITTLE ON BEHALF OF
NRDC AND SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
ANDREA VENTURA FOR CLEAN WATER
ACTION AND SUPPORT. ALL RIGHT.
DO WE HAVE ANY PRIMARY WITNESSES
AND OPPOSITION TO THIS FILM,
PLEASE COME FORWARD. MHM. WE'RE
GOOD. ALRIGHT FOUR MINUTES
BETWEEN THE BOTH OF YOU. GOOD
MORNING, DENNIS ALBION E ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA SEAT
ASSOCIATION, UM SEE TREATED
SEEDS AND PESTICIDE TREATED
SEEDS ARE VERY IMPORTANT FOR
BOTH ORGANIC AND CONVENTIONAL
AGRICULTURE. YES ORGANIC
PRODUCTION STILL USES PESTICIDES
AS WELL, JUST ONCE APPROVED BY
THE ORGANIC CERTIFICATION
ORGANIZATION. I THINK THERE'S
WIDE UH, AGREEMENT AMONG
SCIENTIFIC ENTITIES THAT USING
TREATED SEEDS. WILL REDUCE THE
AMOUNT OF FOLIAR APPLICATIONS
LATER IN THE PROCESS, ESPECIALLY
AT THIS TIME THAT OF THE INFANCY
OF THE SEED. THEY ACTUALLY
TREATED SEAT TO PROTECT THE SEAT
ITSELF, GET IT OFF TO A GOOD
START AND REDUCE THE AMOUNTS OF
CHEMICALS THAT NEED TO BE USED
LATER ON IN THE LIFE CYCLE, BUT
ALSO REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF
PASSES BY TRACTORS. UH
APPLICATIONS BY BY LABOR AND ALL
THOSE AREAS SO IT'S GENERALLY
VIEWED AS A VERY POSITIVE. UH
PART OF THE ORGANIC AND
CONVENTIONAL SYSTEMS SO TREATED
SEEDS ARE REGULATED THAT'S NEEDS
TO BE ESTABLISHED. THEY ARE LIKE
ALL PESTICIDES. THE ACTIVE
INGREDIENTS ARE APPROVED BY U.
S. C. P A. AND THEN THEY ARE
GIVEN A LABEL THAT STRICTLY UH,
CONTROLLED HOW THOSE MATERIALS
ARE USED AND AS TREATED SEATS SO
THEY ARE REGULATED BY U. S. C. P
A. AND THAT IS NOT AN UNDER
FEDERAL LAW. THE SEED ONCE IT'S
TREATED, THOUGH, IS CONSIDERED A
TREATED ARTICLE. SO THE TREATED
ARTICLE MUST BE APPROVED THEIR
PESTICIDE APPROVED AND THEN THEY
ARE, UM, BROUGHT INTO CALIFORNIA
OR, YOU KNOW, DONE IN HERE AS
WELL AND THEY ARE TREATED. THEY
ARE REGULATED UNDER THAT.
SECTIONS OF LAW WHAT THEY OTHER
TREATED ARTICLES ARE THINGS LIKE
TREATED WOOD TEXTILES SUCH AS
SCRUBS AND FIREFIGHTER, GARMENTS
AND MARINE PAINTS. SO THIS IS A
SECTION OF LAW THAT THAT HAS A
DIFFERENT REGULATORY ASPECT.
UNDER U S. A. P A. UM THAT'S
CURRENTLY DRAFTED SEXUAL. ONE OF
THE BILL IDENTITY, DIRECTS THE
DIRECT THE DIRECTOR TO ADOPT
REGULATIONS IN CALIFORNIA TO
REGULATE HOW WE DO THESE AND
WHATEVER REQUIREMENTS THEY'RE
GOING TO PUT TOGETHER. UM
HOWEVER, SUBSECTION C PROHIBITS
THE SALE, DISTRIBUTION AND USE
OF SEEDS UPON AN ACTIVE IN THE
LAW. SO WE ARE CONCERNED THAT
SEEDS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TODAY
AND WE PLANTED TODAY WILL NOT BE
AVAILABLE ON JANUARY 1ST 2024.
THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT ISSUE. I
THINK MY FELLOW, UH, WITNESS
WILL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT. BUT
THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT ISSUE THAT
WE THINK NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.
THE RARE THIS, UH, BILL REQUIRES
THAT A TIRE DISH ADDITIONAL
LEVEL OF REGULATION AND
PROCESSES THAT ARE ALREADY AGAIN
THE MATERIAL IS REGISTERED ON
THE U. S C. P A. AND THEN NOW
IT'S GOING TO GO THROUGH A WHOLE
NOTHER PROCESS HERE IN
CALIFORNIA, AND WE ARE CONCERNED
THAT SOME OF THOSE AH
MANUFACTURERS. THESE MATERIALS
WILL NOT, UH, AGREED TO COME
THROUGH OUR PROCESS IN
CALIFORNIA. THERE'S YET STILL
DEFINED AND THAT WILL REDUCE THE
AMOUNT OF MATERIALS AND
OPPORTUNITIES FOR VARIOUS SEEDS
. UM AND VARIOUS DIFFERENT
PLANTS SUCH AS YOU KNOW, SMALL.
WE HAVE 400 PLUS DIFFERENT
COMMODITIES, SOME OF THEM LIKE
KALE, BOK CHOY, COLOR COLORED
CAULIFLOWER. WILL ENTITIES GO
THROUGH THE PROCESS JUST FOR
THAT VERY SPECIFIC SMALL AMOUNT
OF PRODUCT AND WE DIDN'T WE
THINK LIKELY NOT. CAN I ASK JUST
SO WE HAVE SOME TIME FOR THE
OTHER WITNESSES. WELL, SOUNDS
GOOD. THANKS AND WITH THAT WE
JUST APPRECIATE THE TIME AND I
WOULD LIKE YOU TO AH, HOLD THE
BILL TODAY IN COMMITTEE. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU, MR TURN MEMBERS
TAYLOR, RUSSIAN ON BEHALF OF
VARIOUS AGRICULTURAL
ASSOCIATIONS. I'LL KEEP THIS
BRIEF. I THINK, MR ALBION HE
MADE A GOOD POINT. WE UNDERSTAND
IT'S NOT THE AUTHOR'S INTENTION
TO HAVE AN INTERIM BAN. BUT WE
ARE CONCERNED THAT WITHOUT
CLARITY THAT'S GOING TO BE THE
IMPACT AND ESPECIALLY, UM, SOME
OF THE COMMODITIES THAT MR
ALBANY MENTIONED, BUT
PARTICULARLY SMALL SPECIALTY
COMMODITIES, INCLUDING
CULTURALLY COMPETENT FOOD ARE
GROWN USING TREATED SEED. AND SO
WHEN WE CLOSE THOSE
OPPORTUNITIES TO SOURCE THAT
KIND OF SEED OR CLOSING
OPPORTUNITIES FOR SMALL, FAMILY
OWNED DIVERSIFIED FARMS IN
CALIFORNIA, SO I WANT TO
REITERATE HOW CHALLENGING IT IS
FOR A FARMER TO FIND NEW SEED
VARIETALS THAT WORK IN
CALIFORNIA. TREATED OR NOT
TREATED. IT'S UPENDING YOUR
BUSINESS. IT'S CHANGING YOUR
BUSINESS FUNDAMENTALLY, AND WE
ARE CONCERNED THAT IT'S DEATH BY
1000 CUTS WITH ISSUES LIKE THIS,
THAT REALLY IMPACT THE SMALL,
DIVERSIFIED FARMS IN CALIFORNIA
, SO WE RESPECTFULLY REQUESTED
NO VOTE AND WILL CONTINUE TO
WORK WITH THE AUTHOR ON
CLARIFYING THE AMENDMENT. THANK
YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER
WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION? GOOD
AFTERNOON, MR CHAIR AND MEMBERS
OF THE COMMITTEE MATTHEW ALLEN
WITH WESTERN GROWERS, ALSO A
POST. CHRIS REARDON, CALIFORNIA
FARM BUREAU POST. GOOD AFTERNOON
CHAIR MEMBERS PULP OYSTER WITH
NUTRIENT ACT SOLUTIONS WITH
RESPECT TO POST THANK YOU NOW
MOVING TO THE PHONES. DO WE HAVE
ANYONE ON THE PHONE LINES THAT
ARE HERE IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION? THANK YOU, MR CHAIR
FOR THOSE WHO WISH TO SPEAK IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION, PLEASE
PRESS ONE THAN ZERO. WE'RE GOING
TO FIRST GO TO LINE 1 30. YOUR
LINE IS OPEN. BLIND 1 30.
ABIGAIL, MILE ON BEHALF OF
MIDTERM, INSULAR REGIONAL OPEN
SPACE DISTRICT AND SUPPORT. LINE
1 31. JOHN POTTER WITH CLEANERS
FOR KIDS THAT ARE GETTING VERY
STRONG SUPPORT. LINE 1 33.
SUZANNE HUME. CLEANERS FOR KIDS
THAT ORG STRONGLY SUPPORT THANK
YOU. LINE 1 25. CATHERINE DODD
FAMILIES ADVOCATING FOR CHEMICAL
AND TOXIC SAFETY STRONGLY
SUPPORT LINE 1 24. IN 1 24 YEAR
LINE IS NOW OPEN. WE'RE GOING TO
MOVE ON THE LINE. 1 17. 13
AMERICAN BIRD CONSERVANCY, PROUD
CO SPONSOR OF THIS BILL AND
STRONGLY SUPPORT LINE 1 15. YOUR
LINE IS NOW OPEN. AND THAT'S THE
FORESIGHT. CALIFORNIA NURSES FOR
ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH AND JUSTICE
AND ALSO WITH QUEEN EARTH FOR
KIDS SUPPORT. AND ONCE AGAIN,
LADIES, GENTLEMEN, IF YOU WISH
TO SPUR SUPPORTER OPPOSITION TO
THIS BILL, PLEASE PRESS 10.
WE'RE NOW GOING TO GO TO LINE
79. PARDON ME. JUST A MOMENT IN
79, PLEASE PRESS ONE AND ZERO
AGAIN. IT APPEARS THAT WE HAVE
NO ONE. PARDON ME. JUST A MOMENT
LINE 79. YOUR LINE IS NOW OPEN.
THANK YOU. CARTER ON BEHALF OF
SIERRA CLUB, CALIFORNIA AND
SUPPORT. MR CHAIR. THERE IS NO
ONE ELSE TO SIGNAL THAT THEY
WISH TO SPEAK. THANK YOU SO MUCH
WITH THAT WE WILL BRING IT BACK
TO THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS. DOES
ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
COMMENTS YES. MOVE THE BILL. UM
THANK YOU. I THINK THIS IS
REALLY IMPORTANT. I THINK THERE
IS A REGULATORY STRUCTURE IN
PLACE ON PESTICIDES. BUT I DO
THINK IT'S A DIFFERENT SET OF
ISSUES WHEN IT COMES TO TREATED
SEEDS AND REALLY HOW, UM THOSE
AFFECT SPECIES IN THE
ENVIRONMENT. YOU KNOW, BIRDS
EATING SEEDS THAT ARE TREATED.
IT'S IT REALLY IS, SO I DO THINK
THERE NEEDS TO BE A REGULATORY
PROGRAM. UH AND I THINK THAT'S
WHAT THIS MERELY DOES. UM I DO.
I AM LOOKING AT THE LANGUAGE AND
YOU KNOW, M SYMPATHETIC TO THE
WHOLE ISSUE ABOUT, UM, THE
TIMING ON SEEDS IN THE CENTER
AND PERIOD AND IT LOOKS LIKE
THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME WORK ON
THAT TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS
BECAUSE IT JUST SAYS THE PERSON
SHALL NOT DELIVER SELLER USE THE
SEEDS TREATED THAT'S NOT
REGISTERED, AND THERE'S NOT ANY
TIMING WITH RESPECT TO THAT
REGISTRATION PROCESS. I'M HOPING
THEY'LL BE WILLING TO WORK WITH
THE FARM BUREAU AND THE OTHER
FOLKS ON THOSE ISSUES. BUT I DO
THINK THAT, UM, THAT IT'S REALLY
IMPORTANT AND THIS TO ME JUST
SETS UP WHAT I LIKE, WHICH IS
REGULATORY PROGRAMS THAT ARE
ACTUALLY LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW
THE IMPACT ON THE USE OF
CHEMICALS IN THE ENVIRONMENT.
WHAT IT'S SORT OF DOING AND ALSO
LOOKING AT WHAT HAPPENS WHETHER
OR NOT YOU CAN DO IT WITHOUT
WITHOUT TREATMENT, OR WHETHER OR
NOT THERE'S SOME JUSTIFICATION
FOR TREATMENT AND THAT THE
WHATEVER WOULD GO TO THAT. THE
THAT THE IMPACTS ARE NOT WORSE.
SO I LIKE REGULATORY PROGRAMS
AND SO REALLY WANT TO THANK THE
AUTHOR FOR BRINGING THIS
FORWARD. I DO THINK IT'S
IMPORTANT AND I'LL BE SUPPORTING
IT STRONGLY. THANK YOU. SOUTH
AMERICAN ER. YES GOOD AFTERNOON
. UM IT SEEMS LIKE, UM IT'S NOT
THE AUTHOR'S INTENT TO BAN SEE
WITH PESTICIDE WAS TO CLOSE
THOSE LOOPHOLES BRINGING SEASON
TO CALIFORNIA THAT USE
PESTICIDES THAT ARE NOT
REGISTERED FOR YOUTH IN
CALIFORNIA. UM YOUR OPPOSITION
OF THE BILL MAKES IT SOUNDS LIKE
YOU WANT TO KEEP THOSE
EXPLOITING THOSE LOOPHOLES. BUT
I DON'T THINK YOU DO SO I'M
HOPING HOPEFULLY YOU WOULD WORK
WITH THE AUTHOR TO, UM MAKE SOME
AMENDMENTS. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU, MR KENNEDY. I THOUGHT THE
PROJECTOR I'M JUST CURIOUS TO
SEE IF THE AUTHOR AND NEITHER
WITNESSES HAVE ANY, UH, THING TO
SAY AS TO WHAT OPPOSITION HAD
BROUGHT UP AND WHAT THEIR
CONCERNS ARE. YEAH AND IF I
COULD I SAID THAT WE HAD LUCAS
RHODES, WHO'S OUR EXPERT ON THE
PHONE LINE FROM AN RDC AND I
THINK HE CAN REALLY ADDRESS SOME
OF THE COMMENTS MADE BY MR
ALBION E SO LUCAS GET READY. BUT
BUT, UM, BUT I WILL SAY THAT YOU
KNOW, IT'S FUNNY. WE REALLY
THOUGHT THAT THE WAY IT WAS
WRITTEN THE WAY THE ARTICLE
MODIFIED THE SENTENCE THAT IT
WAS CLEAR IT MAY NOT BE CLEAR
AND THAT'S YOU KNOW. I SAID IT
EARLIER TODAY IN A DIFFERENT
HEARING. I'M ALWAYS THE FIRST TO
ADMIT I MAY NOT GET IT RIGHT THE
FIRST TIME. SO YES, AND ALSO WE
HAD ANOTHER COLLEAGUE WHO ISN'T
HERE RIGHT NOW, BUT WHO HAD
ASKED TO GRACE PERIOD, WHICH
I'VE ALSO INCREDIBLY OPEN TO
WHICH I THINK ADDRESSES SOME OF
THE CONCERNS, SO WE'LL BE
DISCUSSING THAT WITH HIM AS
WELL. AND THE CONVERSATIONS ARE
ONGOING. BUT LUCAS DO YOU WANT
TO CHIME IN FOR? YEAH, I WAS
JUST QUICKLY NOTE THAT SO
SECTION C OF THE BILL PROHIBITS
TO USE OF SEEDS THAT ARE TREATED
WITH PESTICIDE PRODUCTS.
PRODUCTS ARE NOT REGISTERED WITH
CPR. CURRENTLY, THERE ARE 210.
REGISTERED SEED TREATMENT
PRODUCTS. IN A LETTER APPROVED
BY DPR IN CALIFORNIA, INCLUDING
69, UNIQUE, ACTIVE INGREDIENTS
SPANNING INSECTICIDES,
FUNGICIDES, ALL SORTS OF OTHER
PESTICIDES. FAIL IN THE USE OF
SPEEDS THAT ARE TREATED WITH
THESE REGISTERED PRODUCTS WOULD
NOT BE AFFECTED AT ALL. BY
SECTION C AND SO GROWERS WILL
HAVE PLENTY OF OPTIONS AVAILABLE
TO THEM. THEY JUST WILL NOT BE
ABLE TO PURCHASE SEEDS OUT OF
STATE, WHICH ARE TREATED WITH
PESTICIDES THAT ARE NOT
REGISTERED OR APPROVED BY DPR.
AS YOU AS THE ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
JUST SAID. THIS IS JUST A
LOOPHOLE AND EXISTING LAW. THESE
THESE PRODUCTS HAVE. NO UH, NO
BUSINESS THING USED IN
CALIFORNIA, AND THIS CLOSES THAT
LOOPHOLE. OKAY, MAKES SENSE. MR
ZERO JUST HAD A FOLLOW UP
QUESTION. SO I WAS READING SEE
AS WELL AND THAT'S WHAT WAS
GIVING ME THE PROBLEMS AND I
THOUGHT THAT IT WAS REFERRING
TO, AND IT SAID THAT'S NOT
REGISTERED FOR USE PURSUANT TO
THIS CHAPTER THAT IT REQUIRED A
NEW SET OF REGISTRATION, BUT IT
SOUNDS LIKE AND MAYBE THE
GENTLEMAN FROM NRDC CAN CONFIRM
THIS THAT THERE ARE ALREADY
PESTICIDES THAT ARE REGISTERED
OR PERMITTED FOR USE. SO ALL
THOSE WOULD CONTINUE RIGHT? BUT
THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, SO I
THINK THAT WOULD MEAN THAT IF
THERE'S A PESTICIDE THAT'S
REGISTERED IN CALIFORNIA. AND
THE SEAT IS TREATED WITH THAT
THOSE WOULD CONTINUE AND ABATED.
AND THEN THERE WOULD BE A
REGULATORY PROCESS THAT COULD
RESULT IN SOME OF THOSE CEASING
AT SOME POINT, BUT IT WOULD GO
THROUGH A REGULATORY PROGRAM IS
THAT THE INTENT OF THE BILL, SO
THAT'S THE INTENT AND I THINK
THAT'S WHERE THEY WE THINK THE
ARTICLE MODIFIES THE WAY IT'S
FUNNY. I THINK THEY READ IT THE
WAY YOU ORIGINALLY READ IT, AND
WE READ IT THE WAY MISS MCKENNA
ORIGINALLY READ IT, SO THAT'S
WHY WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE
WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE ABOUT
HOW IT'S WRITTEN. YOU WERE
EXAMPLES OF THE WHAT IS
APPARENTLY THE CONFUSION LIKE
WITH THE CHAIRS, ALLOWANCE. I
THINK THE OTHER CONCERN IS FOR
THOSE TREATED FOR THOSE SEEDS
THAT ARE TREATED IN CALIFORNIA
WITH ALLOWABLE USE PRODUCTS IN
CALIFORNIA. WHAT DOES THAT
REGULATORY STRUCTURE LOOK LIKE?
AND BECAUSE THE BILL GIVES BROAD
AUTHORITY TO THE DEPARTMENT TO
ESTABLISH A REGULATORY STRUCTURE
, SO WHILE WE UNDERSTAND THE
AUTHOR'S INTENT IS TO GO AFTER
THOSE SEEDS THAT ARE TREATED
WITH PRODUCTS NOT APPROVED FOR
USE IN CALIFORNIA, WE DO WONDER
WHAT THAT REGULATORY STRUCTURE
WOULD LOOK LIKE FOR EXISTING
SEEDS IN CALIFORNIA, TREATED
WITH APPROVED PRODUCTS, AND I
THINK THAT'S WHERE OUR QUESTIONS
STILL LOOMS OF. WHAT'S THE
STRUCTURE, BUT WE APPRECIATE
YOUR COMMITMENT AND WILL
CONTINUE TO WORK WITH YOU ON ANY
FURTHER QUESTIONS. FOUR MINUTES
. IF NOT, I'LL INVITE THE OTHER
TWO CLOSE. THANK YOU. UM, YOU
KNOW, I THINK THAT THE ANALYSIS
DID A REALLY GOOD JOB OF TALKING
ABOUT HOW THERE IS AN THANK YOU
TO THE COMMITTEE FOR THEIR WORK
ON THIS. THERE IS A REALLY GREAT
AND ROBUST PROCESS HERE IN
CALIFORNIA TO REGULATE
PESTICIDES, AND IT'S WORKING.
WE'RE ENSURING THAT WE'VE GOT
THE PESTICIDES OUT THERE THE
BEST PROTECT OUR AGRICULTURAL
COMMUNITY OFTEN, YOU KNOW, WE
PROTECT PESTICIDES BECAUSE THEY
NEED TO GO AFTER AN INVASIVE
SPECIES IF YOU WILL, AND THEY
ALSO PROTECT OUR ENVIRONMENT AND
OUR BEES AND OUR BUTTERFLIES AND
OUR CRITTERS, AND THAT'S WHAT
DPR IS MEANT TO DO, AND THAT IS
WHAT THEY'RE DOING, UM, IN THE
PAST SIDE REGULATION SPACE, BUT
THEY ARE CURRENTLY NOT DOING
THAT FOR PESTICIDES THAT ARE
BEING PUT ON SEEDS, AND IT'S AN
INCREDIBLY HUGE LITTLE HOME ONE.
WE'RE JUST TRYING TO CLOSE AND
WE BELIEVE THAT SAME PROCESS
WILL APPLY TO SEEDS BUT AGAIN. I
THOUGHT IT WAS FUNNY THAT THE
SAME LACK OF CLARITY WAS
ILLUSTRATED HERE, SO WE WILL
CONTINUE TO WORK ON THAT AND
MAKE SURE WE GET IT RIGHT. ALL
RIGHT. THANK YOU. UM, I THINK
THE AUTHOR FOR BRINGING THIS
BILL FORWARD. IT'S PAST TIME. WE
BETTER UNDERSTAND THE USE AND
IMPACT OF PESTICIDES ON SEEDS IN
THE STATE AND ESTABLISH A
PROGRAM TO MAKE SURE THESE
PESTICIDES ARE BEING USED
SAFELY. AND AS ALWAYS, WE PLEASE
KEEP OUR STAFF AND MYSELF
APPRISED OF ANY DEVELOPMENTS OF
THIS BILL COMMITTEE AND I VOTE.
WE HAVE EMOTION, BUT NO SECOND
YET SOME, OF COURSE, SECOND YOU
MOVED? YES, I'M LOOKING FOR A
SECOND. CAÑADA SECONDS. THE
MOTION IS DO PASS THE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE AND
RECOMMENDING AN AYE VOTE. MADAM
SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
ITEM 10 A B 10 42 BAUER-KAHAN.
THE MOTION IS DO PASS AND RE
REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. LI LI I HOOVER
HOOVER. NO ARAMBULA BAUER-KAHAN
HURRICANE I. CONNOLLY ONLY I
CAN, ER MAKING HER I PACHECO
PACHECO. I TÂM ZYBERK. THAT.
MOTION THAT OF BILL IS OUT. WE
HAVEN'T EFFORTS WE HAVE
123456216 VOTES. THAT BILL IS
OUT. CONGRATULATIONS. UM LOOKING
FOR MR GARCIA. I'M NOT SURE IF
YOU SAW OUTSIDE WOULD LIKE TO
PRESENT THE BILL. ALSO ON OUR
FIRST BILL. UM SORRY. ON THE 1ST
12 PRESENTED TODAY WE DID NOT
HAVE A QUORUM WHICH WAS MAYBE 14
23 ITEM TO BUY SHIVA. WE DID NOT
GET A MOTION AND A SECOND. COULD
WE GET EMOTIONAL SECOND FOR THAT
BILL. MOVED AND SECONDED
THINKING ITEM NUMBER TWO. THIS
IS PFS ON ARTIFICIAL TURFS. YES
UH, SINCE IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND
SECONDED, SECURE, PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL. I'M RECOMMENDING AN
AYE VOTE, OF COURSE. ITEM TWO A.
B 14 23 SZABO. THE MOTION IS DO
PASS AND RE REFERRED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS. LI
LI I HOOVER. NÓ HOOVER. NO
ARAMBULA BAUER-KAHAN. CONNELLY.
CONLEY. I MAKIN ER. PACHECO
PACHECO, I TA. ZABAR BOB ZUBER I
THAT'S ON CALL. ALL RIGHT. THANK
YOU. THAT BILL IS SONG CALL NOW
WILL MOVE TO FIGHT. UM, NUMBER
FIVE BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S SAYING
YOU MAY PRESENT WHEN YOU ARE
READY. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.
MAYBE 3 47 WOULD REQUIRE THE
DEPARTMENT OF TASTIC SUBSTANCES
CONTROL TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE
WITH EXISTING LAWS REGULATING
THE USE OF TOXIC CHEMICALS,
INCLUDING PRODUCTS, JUVENILE
PRODUCTS AND FOOD PACKAGING. AS
YOU HEARD EARLIER TODAY, WITH
THE THREE BILLS PRESENTED AROUND
PREFACE, AND I MYSELF HAVE DONE
. A NUMBER OF PIECES OF
LEGISLATION ON PTS HAVE BECOME
LAW. WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO MAKE A
HISTORIC AMOUNT OF PROGRESS ON
THIS CHEMICAL. HOWEVER THERE'S
BEEN LITTLE REGULATION OR
OVERSIGHT TO SEE HOW WELL THE
COMPLIANCE IS GOING. ARBIL A B
347 WOULD ENSURE THAT DTSC WOULD
BE IN CHARGE OF DOING THAT
COMPLIANCE AND REALLY PROVIDING
THAT ACCOUNTABILITY TO ENSURE
THAT ALL THE BILLS THAT ARE
BECOMING LAW WOULD ACTUALLY BE
IMPLEMENTED. I'M COMPLETELY
COMMITTED TO WORKING WITH
ENVIRONMENTAL AND BUSINESS
STAKEHOLDERS TO THE PROCESS TO
ENSURE WE GET MEANINGFUL
COMPLIANCE WITH THESE LAWS.
RESPECT FOR US FOR I VOTE ON A B
347. THANK YOU, UM, SOMEWHERE
SAYING, DO YOU HAVE ANY
WITNESSES, YOU KNOW? OKAY ANY
MEMBERS OF PUBLIC IN THE HEARING
ROOM WHO WISH TO TESTIFY AND
SUPPORT PLEASE COME FORWARD.
HELLO UM, ANDREA VENTURA WITH
CLEAN WATER ACTION. WE CERTAINLY
SUPPORT IN CONCEPT. WE THINK
THERE'S WORK TO BE DONE AND WE
LOOK FORWARD TO DOING IT. ALL
RIGHT, AND WITH THE PRIMARY
WITNESSES AND, UH OH, ONE MORE
GONNA COME UP UNDER THE INFAMOUS
OTHER CATEGORY THAT WE SUPPORT
THE DISCUSSION AND EFFORT TO GET
THIS RIGHT WITH I MENTIONED
BILLOWS UP ON EARLIER TODAY IS
THAT THIS HAS BEEN KIND DEFERRED
ACTION FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS, SO
WE'LL BE AT THE TABLE WHEN ASKED
YOU TO HELP SOLVE THIS. THANK
YOU. GREAT. THANK YOU. I SHOULD
HAVE, SAID BILAL LEO.
ENVIRONMENTAL WORKING GROUP.
THANK YOU. THE PRIMARY
WITNESSES. OPPOSITION PLEASE
COME FORWARD. GOOD AFTERNOON
AGAIN. NICOLE KIDMAN IS ON
BEHALF OF THE HOUSEHOLD AND
COMMERCIAL PRODUCTS ASSOCIATION
AND THE FRAGRANCE CREATORS
ASSOCIATION WITH AN OPPOSING
LESS AMENDED POSITION ON A B 3
47 H C, P A AND F C A. WE'RE
BOTH LEAD NEGOTIATORS OF THE
CLEANING PRODUCT RIGHT TO KNOW
ACT OF 2017 AND HCPS ULTIMATELY
SUPPORTED THAT GROUNDBREAKING
LEGISLATION. CLEANING PRODUCT
ACT IS A LABELING LAW FOCUSED ON
CONSUMER INGREDIENT
COMMUNICATION, PROVIDING
INTENTIONALLY ADDED INGREDIENTS
AND WHAT ARE NOT, AND WHAT ARE
TERMED NONFUNCTIONAL
CONSTITUENTS TO CONSUMERS. IT
DOES NOT REQUIRE DISCLOSURE OF
NON INTENTIONALLY ADDED
INGREDIENTS OR CONTAMINANTS. BY
ADDING ENFORCEMENT TO THE LAW,
DTSC WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE
REQUIRED TO TEST A PRODUCT FOR
THE PRESENCE OF ANYTHING THEN IF
SOMETHING IS DISCOVERED THAT IS
NOT DISCLOSED, DTSC WOULD NEED
TO DETERMINE IF IT WAS
INTENTIONALLY ADDED TO KNOW
WHETHER A VIOLATION HAS OCCURRED
. THIS IS VERY DIFFERENT FROM
THE PREFACE ENFORCEMENT PORTION
OF THE BELL. THAT SAID IF THE
CLEANING PRODUCT RIGHT TO KNOW
ACT PORTION REMAINS IN THE BILL,
WE HAVE REQUESTED AMENDMENTS TO
ENSURE THE ENFORCEMENT IS FAIR
AND IMPLEMENTED. OUR AMENDMENTS
WOULD SEEK TO DO THE FOLLOWING
CLARIFY THAT SELLING ONE OR MORE
UNITS OF THE SAME PRODUCT
CONSTITUTES A SINGLE VIOLATION.
A FINE APPLYING TO EVERY PRODUCT
AND COMMERCE WOULD MAKE
UNNECESSARILY PUNITIVE AND WE
ASK THAT THEY BE 3 47 BE AMENDED
TO MAKE CLEAR VIOLATIONS ARE NOT
MULTIPLIED BY EACH PRODUCT. FOR
EXAMPLE, THERE IS ANOTHER
STATUTE RELATED TO LABELING OF
NON FLUSHABLE WIPES THAT
CLARIFIES THAT SELLING ONE OR
MORE UNITS OF THE SAME PRODUCT
IN VIOLATION OF THE LAW
CONSTITUTES A SINGLE VIOLATION
FOR EACH DAY. WE REQUEST
LIMITING THE PUBLIC POSTING OF
CITATIONS TO ONLY THOSE WITH
ONGOING NONCOMPLIANCE AFTER DTSC
S INITIAL NOTIFICATION OF
NONCOMPLIANCE OR ONCE A
VIOLATION HAS BEEN SETTLED. THIS
IS LIKE THE PROCESS OF THE
CALIFORNIA AIR RESOURCES BOARD,
WELL INTENTIONED ACTORS SHOULD
HAVE THE CHANCE TO FIX ANY
ISSUES IDENTIFIED BY DTSC AND
PAY THE ASSOCIATED FINES AS
APPROPRIATE WITHOUT BEING POSTED
ON A WEBSITE WITHOUT CONTEXT TO
THE PUBLIC. WE ALSO REQUEST TO
MAKE CLEAR THAT DTSC IS ONLY
REQUIRED JUST RECEIVED
COMPLAINTS AS IT RELATES TO THE
ONLINE AND LABELING DISCLOSURE
REQUIREMENTS OF THE CLEANING
PRODUCT, RIGHT TO KNOW. ACT
WITHOUT GUARDRAILS, DTSC COULD
BE REDIRECTING SIGNIFICANT
RESOURCES TO COLLECTING,
COMPILING AND ANALYZING CONSUMER
INPUT ON A NUMBER OF UNRELATED
ISSUES OR PRODUCTS. AND LASTLY,
WE REQUEST TO ENSURE DTSC
REGULATORY AUTHORITY DOES NOT
ALLOW THEM TO ALTER THE
REQUIREMENTS LAID OUT IN THE
ORIGINAL STATUTE. THE STATUTE
WAS METICULOUSLY NEGOTIATED, SO
IT'S IMPORTANT TO US DTSC NOT BE
ABLE TO CHANGE WHAT IS LAID OUT
IN THE LAW. THE LATEST
AMENDMENTS DO APPEAR TO HAVE
REDUCED THEIR REGULATORY
AUTHORITY, WHICH IS APPRECIATED
, BUT JUST QUICKLY TO SERVING,
AS EXAMPLE, TO MINIMIZE
COMPLIANCE CHALLENGES. THE
STATUTE IS VERY CLEAR AS TO WHEN
MANUFACTURERS MUST UPDATE
WEBSITES AND PRODUCT LABELS
AFTER AN INJURY. IAN IS ADDED TO
ONE OF THE AUTHORITATIVE LIFTS,
WHICH ARE LIVING DOCUMENTS THAT
TRIGGER ADDITIONAL DISCLOSURE.
DTS ES GUIDANCE MUST BE ALIGNED
WITH THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS.
IT MAY NOT ESTABLISH NEW
TIMELINES. SO FOR THESE REASONS,
HCP AH AND FC ARE RESPECTFULLY
OPPOSING LESS AMENDED AND WE
LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUED
CONVERSATIONS WITH THE AUTHOR.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THAT WE
HAVE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC
IN THE HEARING ROOM, WHICH
SATISFY AN OPPOSITION, PLEASE
COME FORWARD. RIGHT SEE NONE.
PHONE MODERATOR. MODERATOR DO WE
HAVE ANY WITNESSES ON THE PHONE
LINE SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO A
B 347? I ALSO WISH TO SPEAK IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO THIS
BILL, PLEASE PRESS ONE AND ZERO
AND AS A REMINDER PRESS ONE THAN
ZERO, ONLY ONE TIME AS A
PRESSING ONE THAN THERE WAS
SECOND TIME WILL REMOVE YOU FROM
THE KILL. WELL, FIRST GO TO LINE
1 30 FOR YOUR LINE IS NOW OPEN.
THANK YOU. THIS IS JOHN BUTTER
CLEANER FOR KIDS THAT ARE
STRONGLY SUPPORT. LINE 1 35.
HELLO THIS IS SUZANNE HUME.
CLEANERS FOR KIDS. ORG STRONGLY
SUPPORT LINE 1 25. HI CATHERINE
. OTHER FAMILIES THAT BECAME FOR
CHEMICAL AND TOXIC SAFETY
SUPPORT. LIKE 1 15. AND THAT'S A
FORESIGHT. CALIFORNIA NURSES FOR
ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH AND JUSTICE
AND CLEANERS FOR KIDS SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. BLIND 78. CLEAR WITH
THE LOS ANGELES COUNTY
SANITATION DISTRICTS AND SUPPORT
MR CHAIR. THERE IS NO ONE ELSE
WHO WISHES TO SPEAK. ALRIGHT
THANK YOU. NOW BRING IT BACK TO
COMMITTEE. DO WE HAVE QUESTIONS?
COMMENTS FROM COMMITTEE MEMBERS?
SEEING NONE. YEAH BILLS MOVED
AND DO I HAVE A SECONDS? SECONDS
LATER, PACHECO ALRIGHT, INVITE
THE AUTHOR TO CLOSE. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THE
OPPOSITION'S COMMENTS. JUST
REITERATE A B 347 DOZEN CHANGE
ANY EXISTING STATUTE. WE JUST
WANT TO ENSURE THAT DTSC
OVERSEAS AND ENSURE THAT THESE
LAWS ARE BEING FOLLOWED IN IN
FORCE. WE APPRECIATE THE
FEEDBACK WILL CONTINUE TO WORK
WITH OPPOSITION TO SEE HOW WE
SHOULD ADDRESS THEIR CONCERNS
WITH THAT RESPECT FOR US FOR I
VOTE ON A B 347. ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH ROUTING. I
REALLY APPRECIATE EFFORTS ON
THIS BILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT
THE PROPER OVERSIGHT OF THESE
CHEMICAL PROHIBITION PROGRAMS IS
COMPLEX, BUT VERY MUCH NEEDED.
WE PASSED THESE LAWS WITH THE
HOPE AND UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY
WILL BECOME PLIED WITH. HOWEVER
WE DO NOT HAVE CONCRETE
INFORMATION THAT THIS IS
HAPPENING AND YOUR BILL QUITS A
POSSIBLE PATH FOR BOTH
ENFORCEMENT AND GUIDANCE FOR THE
VARIOUS INDUSTRIES COMPELLED TO
COMPLY. I SUPPORT YOUR EFFORTS,
AND I AM RECOMMENDING AN AYE.
VOTE WE HAVE THE MOTION SECOND
AND EMOTIONS DO PASS
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE
MEDICINE THERE. PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL ITEM. 5 83 4 17. THE MOTION
IS DO PASS AND RE REFERRED TO
THE COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
. LI LI I HOOVER ARAMBULA
BAUER-KAHAN. CONNELLY. CONLEY. I
MAKIN ER PACHECO. HØI TOM IS A
VERB. SUPER I SO THAT'S ON CALL
. WE HAVE FOUR VOTES IN COLLEGE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
TO SHARE WHAT.
HOW ARE YOU DOING? NEXT UP
ASSEMBLY BILL 17 16
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S LEAGUE. WELL
THANK YOU. ACTING CHAIR AND
MEMBERS. A B 7 16 IS A COMMITTEE
BILL THAT MAKES VARIOUS
TECHNICAL TECHNICAL CHANGES TO
THE SIX STATEWIDE PROGRAMS
MANAGED BY THE CERTIFIED UNIFIED
CERTIFY UNIFIED PROGRAMS,
AGENCIES OR CU PAS THESE
PROGRAMS WITH THE HANDLING AND
SORT OF HAZARDOUS MATERIALS, THE
COLDEST BILLS, IMPROVING CLARITY
OF BOTH THE LAW. FOR THE
REGULATORS AND THE REGULAR
COMMUNITY. WE'RE WORKING VERY
STAKEHOLDERS AND WILL BE
CONTINUING THOSE VERY TECHNICAL
DISCUSSIONS AS A BILL MOVES
FORWARD WITH THAT I INTRODUCE MY
PRIMARY. SUPPORT WITNESS HERE IN
THE ROOM. I HAVE JUSTIN MARLON,
WITH THE CALIFORNIA
ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH DIRECTORS
ON BEHALF OF THE COOPERS. THANK
YOU, MR CHAIR MEMBERS. I'LL BE
VERY QUICK. I KNOW THAT THE HOUR
IS LATE, AND IT IS ONE OF YOUR
BILLS, SO I'M HOPING WE GET A
GOOD VOTE ON IT. UM I ALSO
WANTED TO COMMAND THE NOT ONLY
THE COMMITTEE BUT COMMITTEE
STAFF. JOSH IS AWESOME TO WORK
WITH. HE REALLY HAS BEEN HELPING
ME HERD THE CATS. THIS IS
LARGELY A TECHNICAL. IT'S
INTENDED TO BE NON CONTROVERSIAL
. WE WANT TO KEEP IT THAT WAY.
BUT IT HAS TO BE DONE MOST OF
THE WORK THAT THESE LOCALS ARE
DOING IN 140,000 INSPECTIONS
WERE DOING MOST OF THE WORK IS
REQUIRED UNDER STATUTE. SO EVERY
NOW AND AGAIN WE HAVE TO CHANGE
THE LAW AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE
DOING HERE. I WANT TO JUST DRAW
YOUR ATTENTION IF YOU SAW IT IN
YOUR EMAIL INBOX IS THIS IT
TELLS YOU WHAT A COOPER IS. I
KNOW FOR MOST PEOPLE. IT'S A
FOUR LETTER WORD. IT IS A FOUR
LETTER WORD. IT'S THE LOCAL
REGULATORS THAT DO ALL THIS HARD
WORK AT THE LOCAL LEVEL. SO
AGAIN. THANK YOU FOR COMMITTEE
FOR WORKING WITH US ON THIS. WE
COMMITTED TO WORK WITH THE
DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE, THE
INDUSTRY AND THE ADMINISTRATION
TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS PROGRAM
STAYS EFFECTIVE. FAIR AND
ENFORCEABLE. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC IN THE
HEARING ROOM WISHING TO TESTIFY
IN SUPPORT? DO WE HAVE ANY
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC IN THE
HEARING ROOM? UM HERE TO TESTIFY
IN OPPOSITION. SEEING NONE.
PHONE MODERATOR. DO WE HAVE ANY
WITNESSES ON THE PHONE LINE IN
EITHER SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO
A B 17 16? HEARING NONE. WELL,
THIS IS EASY. BONUS POINT.
MODERATOR DO THAT. ASK FIRST. IF
YOU HAVE A PROBLEM OR MODERATOR
HEAR ME. NO. MAX ON. I'M SORRY.
YES. UH IF ANYONE WISHES TO
SPEAK IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION
OF THIS BILL, PLEASE PRESS ONE
AND ZERO THERE IS NO ONE THANK
YOU. AND ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS
FROM ANY COMMITTEE MEMBERS? ANY
QUESTIONS, COMMENTS SECOND.
ISRAEL SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION
AND A SECOND WHEN WE PLEASE TAKE
A ROLL CALL VOTE. CAN I CLOSE
REAL QUICK. I'M SORRY. I JUST I
SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED THIS IS
OUR COMMITTEE BILL, SO IT'S OF
COURSE, VERY TECHNICAL NATURE
AND TO THANK ALL THE FOLKS WERE
AGREEING TO MAKE THIS MAKE THESE
CHANGES ARE COMMITTEE BILL, SO
HOPEFULLY THEY'RE NOT
CONTROVERSIAL RESPECT. WE ASK
FOR A VOTE. THIS IS ITEM NUMBER
11 A B 17 16 ENVIRONMENTAL
SAFETY AND TOXIC MATERIALS
COMMITTEE. THE MOTION IS DO PASS
AND RE REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE
ON APPROPRIATIONS. LI LI I
HOOVER ARAMBULA ARAMBULA
ARAMBULA. AYE BAUER-KAHAN.
CONNELLY CONNELLY. I MAKIN ER
PACHECO PACHECO, I TA I ZABAR
ZUBIATE. AYE. HAS SIX VOTES
PASSES OUT. EXPERTS HAS PASSES
OUT CONGRATULATIONS TO
OURSELVES. NOW, LET'S GO TO, UH
. ITEM NUMBER NINE. MAYBE 14 03
BY SELLING REGARDS CIA AND THANK
YOU FOR PATIENTLY WAITING FOR US
. YOU MAY PRESENT WHEN YOU'RE
READY. THANK YOU. MR CHENG
COLLEAGUES. THIS BILL WOULD
ALLOW THE OFFICE OF STATE
MARSHAL TO IDENTIFY METHODS THAT
WILL CAPTURE MORE DETAILED DATA
RELATING TO FIRES. DAMAGES AND
INJURIES CAUSED BY BOTH
DANGEROUS FIREWORKS AND SAFE AND
SANE FIREWORKS. STATE FIRE
MARSHAL SHALL PROVIDE TO THE
APPROPRIATE POLICY AND BUDGET
COMMITTEES OF THE RESPECTIVE
HOUSES OF THE LEGISLATURE.
WORKLOAD ANALYSIS OF RESOURCES
NEEDED TO FURTHER ASSIST IN THE
TRAINING. OF LOCAL FIRE AND LAW
ENFORCEMENT PERSONNEL REGARDING
THE ENFORCEMENT OF STATEWIDE
PROGRAMS CONCERNING ILLEGAL AND
DANGEROUS FIREWORKS. FINALLY
THIS BILL ENSURES THAT LOCAL
NONPROFITS IN OUR COMMUNITIES
WHO ARE SELLING SAFE AND SAYING
FIREWORKS ARE GIVEN FUNDS TO
ASSIST THEM IN THE PUBLIC
EDUCATION AND AWARENESS
CAMPAIGNS REGARDING THE SAFE AND
RESPONSIBLE USE OF SAFE AND
SAYING FIREWORKS AND THE DANGERS
AND RISKS POSED BY THE USE OF
ILLEGAL FIREWORKS. UM
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR VOTE.
SECOND. THANK YOU AND YOU GOT A
BIPARTISAN MOTION. PLEASE GO
AHEAD. OH, NEVER MIND. PLEASE GO
FORWARD. MR CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS
JASON GONSALVES, REPRESENTING
TNT, FIREWORKS, AS WELL AS THE
CITY OF OUT GROVE AND STRONG
SUPPORT, LIKE TO THANK THE
AUTHOR, THE COMMITTEE AND IN
PARTICULAR, THE COMMITTEE
CONSULTANT FOR THE ASSISTANCE ON
THE AMENDMENTS, UM, BETWEEN THE
PRIOR COMMITTEE AS WELL AS THIS
COMMITTEE, SO WE VERY MUCH
APPRECIATE YOUR ASSISTANCE AND
WE RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR IT. I
VOTE. THANK YOU. YES DENNIS
REBEL ALSO ON BEHALF OF TNT,
FIREWORKS. I'LL BE HAPPY TO
RESPOND TO ANY TECHNICAL
QUESTIONS. IF THERE ARE ANY
GREAT THANK YOU. ANY MEMBERS OF
THE PUBLIC THE HEARING ROOM WISH
TO ADD ON THEIR SUPPORT FOR A B
14 03. PLEASE COME FORWARD.
SEEING THAT ARE THERE ANY
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC IN THE
HEARING ROOM WISH TO TESTIFY IN
OPPOSITION TO A B 14 03? SAYING
DONE PHONE MONTEREY. DO WE HAVE
ANY WITNESSES ON THE PHONE AND
ON SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO A B
14 03? Tð CHAIR. WE HAVE SEVERAL
PEOPLE HAVE SIGNALED THAT THEY
WISH TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION. JUST A MOMENT. AND
ONCE AGAIN FOR THOSE WHO YOU
PRESS ONE THAN ZERO IF YOU WISH
TO SPEAK WE'RE GOING TO GO TO
LINE 1 36. JOHN BARTON CLINIC
FOR KIDS THAT .ORG STRONGEST
SUPPORT. LINE 1 19 YEAR, LINUS
NOW OPEN. GOOD AFTERNOON, MR
CHAIR AND MEMBERS ANGIE MINETTI
IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL ON BEHALF
OF PHANTOM FIREWORKS. AND WE
HAVE AT LEAST ONE MORE PERSON
JUST A MOMENT.
AND WE WILL NOW GO TO LINE 1 37.
YOUR LINE IS NOW OPEN. SUZANNE
HUME. CLEANERS FOR KIDS STRONGLY
SUPPORT. MR CHAIR. THERE IS NO
ONE OUGHT TO SIGNAL THAT THEY
WISH TO SPEAK. ALL RIGHT. THANK
YOU SO MUCH. BRING IT BACK TO
COMMITTEE. DO YOU HAVE ANY
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I AM ALSO
LOOKING FOR A SECOND. SECONDED
BY MR ZERO. ALRIGHT IF NOT, I'LL
ASK THE AUTHOR TO CLOSE THANK
YOU AGAIN. RESPECTFULLY AS FOR I
WILL THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
BRINGING THE BILL FORWARD.
RECOMMENDING AN AYE. VOTE ON
THIS, MADAM SECRETARY. PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL. THIS IS ITEM
NUMBER NINE A. B 14 OH, THREE.
GARCIA THE MOTION IS DO PASS AND
RE REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. LI LI I HOOVER.
ARAMBULA ARAMBULA. AYE,
BAUER-KAHAN. CONNELLY CONNELLY.
I MAKIN ER MAKIN HER. I PACHECO
I GOT TA TOP, NOT VOTING SUBURB
WHERE I. SIX THAT'S SIX VOTES
THAT PASSES OUT.
CONGRATULATIONS. ALRIGHT SO THAT
IS ALL THE BILLS. WE'VE GONE
OVER ALL THE BILLS TODAY, AT
LEAST ONCE, SO LET'S UM,
SECRETARY. LET'S GO THROUGH IN
THE FILE ITEM ORDER TO HAVE
MEMBERS ADD ON BUT I THINK WE'LL
HAVE TO KEEP, UM, HERE FOR A
LITTLE WHILE, SO LET'S GO
THROUGH FILE ITEM ORDER. ITEM
ONE A. B 7 27 WEBER. THE VOTE
STANDS AT 51 ARAMBULA ARAMBULA.
AYE, BAUER-KAHAN. TÂM NO GOD,
NO. ITEM TWO A. B 14 23 SZABO.
THE VOTE IS FOR ONE ARAMBULA.
ARAMBULA AYE, BAUER-KAHAN.
MAKIN, ER. MCKENNA, I TALK GOD,
NO. SO CURRENTLY THAT VOTE HAS
SIX TO SO THAT THAT PASSES. ITEM
THREE A B 2 46 POPPING THE VOTE
IS 50 ARAMBULA. ARAMBULA. AYE,
BAUER-KAHAN. TODD. NOT VOTING
SUBURB. BUT I SO NOW THE VOTE
STANDS THERE AT 70. SO THAT'S
OUT. ITEM FOUR A B 7 56 HAPPEN.
THE VOTE IS 40 WITH HOOVER NOT
VOTING. ARAMBULA ARAMBULA. AYE,
BAUER-KAHAN. TÂM. THANK YOU,
TODD. NOT VOTING ZABAR ZIPPER
EYES, SO THAT BRINGS THE VOTE TO
60. ITEM FIVE A B 347 TAKING THE
VOTE STANDS AT 40 HOOVER.
ARAMBULA ARAMBULA. AYE,
BAUER-KAHAN. MAKIN ER MAKIN ER I
TOP. I KNOW THAT BRINGS THE VOTE
TO 61 SO THAT BILL IS OUT. ITEM
6 84 18 GABRIEL. THE VOTE STANDS
AT 40 WITH HOOVER NOT VOTING
ARAMBULA. ARAMBULA AYE.
BAUER-KAHAN TALK. TODD NO. ZABAR
ZABAR, I THAT BRINGS THE VOTE TO
61 WITH THE VICE CHAIR, NOT
VOTING. AND THAT BILL IS OUT.
ITEM SEVEN. MAYBE 8 99
MURATSUCHI. THE VOTE IS 60, WITH
THE VICE CHAIR, VOTING, NOT
VOTING. ARAMBULA ARAMBULA I TOP
TÔI. THAT BRINGS THE VOTE TO 80
ITEM EIGHT. MAYBE 10 59 FRIEDMAN
. THE VOTE STANDS AT 60 WITH THE
VICE CHAIR, NOT VOTING. ARAMBULA
ARAMBULA, I TALK, TODD. NO. SO
THE VOTE IS 71. ITEM NINE A B 14
OH, THREE. GARCIA THE VOTE IS
60. HOOVER. ABOUT BAUER-KAHAN.
SAME ITEM 10 A B 10 42.
BAUER-KAHAN. THE VOTE STANDS AT
61 VICE CHAIR, HOOVER VOTING NO
ARAMBULA ARAMBULA. I TAUGHT. MHM
ITEM 10 MAYBE 10 42 BAUER-KAHAN
TODD TANO. SO THAT BRINGS THE
VOTE TO 72 AND ON THE ITEM 11 A
B 17 16 THE COMMITTEE BILL. THE
VOTE IS 60. HOOVER. BAUER-KAHAN
MAKIN, ER. MAKIN HER I THAT
BRINGS THE VOTE TO 70. ON THE
CONSENT CALENDAR. WE HAVE SEVEN
ARAMBULA. ARAMBULA. I TALK. TÔI
90 ON THAT. SO ALL OF THE VOTES
HAVE BEEN PASSED. THANK YOU,
CAMMIE MORRIS FOR BEING HERE, I
WILL HOLD THE ROLL OPEN UNTIL
VICE CHAIR HOOVER AND A SIMILAR
BARKING AND RETURN BECAUSE
BAUER-KAHAN IS HAVING HER CAN BE
RIGHT AFTER THIS ANYWAYS. SO
UNTIL SHE GETS OUT OF THE ROOM,
THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU SO
MUCH. HAVE A NICE EVENING. THANK
YOU.
ALL RIGHT. THIS IS FOR ADD ONS.
ADD ON FOR ITEM 5 83 40 17
HOOVER. NÓ HOOVER NÓ. ITEM NINE.
A. B 14 OH, THREE. GARCIA
HOOVER. I, ER I. ITEM 11 A B 17
16 OUR COMMITTEE BILL. HOOVER
HOOVER. AYE. WAIT. DID I MISS MY
CHANCE? WE'LL GO THROUGH AGAIN
FOR ALL THE BILLS, SO RIGHT NOW
PRESENTING CUTTING STONE HERE
THAT WE'RE DOING. SORRY. ITEM
ONE A B 7 27 BOW BAUER-KAHAN.
BAUER-KAHAN. AYE. ITEM NUMBER 2
80. ITEM NUMBER TWO A. B 14 23
SZABO BAUER-KAHAN BAUER-KAHAN.
AYE. ITEM NUMBER THREE A B 2 46.
BAUER-KAHAN BAUER-KAHAN, AYE. 84
I'M SORRY. ITEM FOUR A B 7 56
PAPIN. BAUER-KAHAN BAUER-KAHAN,
AYE. ITEM 6 84 18 BAUER-KAHAN
BAUER-KAHAN, AYE. I'LL GET IT.
GOING BACK TO ITEM 5 83 47 TING.
BAUER-KAHAN BARRICADE AND I
THANK YOU. ITEM SEVEN A B 8 99
MURATSUCHI. YOU VOTED, OKAY?
GARCIA GARCIA. ITEM 9 80 14 OH,
THREE. GARCIA BAUER-KAHAN
BAUER-KAHAN, AYE. AND ITEM 11 A
B 17 16 STM COMMITTEE
BAUER-KAHAN BAUER-KAHAN, AYE.
AND YES, HERE IN THE CONSENT, SO
WE'RE DONE. OKAY ALL RIGHT. THIS
CONCLUDES OUR E SCM HEARING. ALL
RIGHT. THANKS FOR RETURNING.
CHARLIE YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. BIG
DEAL. THAT'S JUST MAKE YOU FEEL
LIKE SO HAPPY. I DON'T KNOW HOW
HE DOES IT. HE DOES SO NO RIGHT
LITTLE BIT.