MORE. LIKE TO WELCOME YOU TO, UM
, BUDGET SUBCOMMITTEE THREE
HEAVILY ATTENDED BY MANY OTHER
MEMBERS HERE TODAY. UM WE'LL
HEAR FROM DEPARTMENTS UNDER THE
CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL
PROTECTION AGENCY. EXCEPT FOR
THE WATER BOARD. WE'VE MOVED ALL
THE WATER AGENCIES TO NEXT WEEK
WHERE WE WILL ALSO HEAR THE
SPRING FINANCE LETTER FROM THE
DEPARTMENT. WE HAVE SORT OF A
REPRESENTATIVE OF THE OTHER SIDE
HERE TODAY. THANK YOU. THE
SPRING FINANCE LETTERS FROM THE
DEPARTMENT'S WE'VE MOVED ALL THE
WATER AGENCIES THE NEXT WEEK
WHERE WE'LL ALSO HEAR THE SPRING
FINANCE LETTERS FROM THE
DEPARTMENTS UNDER THE CALIFORNIA
NATURAL RESOURCES AGENCY TODAY
WILL ALSO VOTE ON 15 ITEMS THAT
WERE HEARD AT OUR MARCH 29TH
HEARING FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF
PARKS. WE HAVE FIVE ITEMS THAT
ARE PLANNED FOR DISCUSSION FOR
EACH PRESENTATION ITEM. I'LL ASK
EACH OF THE WITNESSES AND THE
AGENDA TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES
BEFORE THEY BEGIN THEIR
TESTIMONY. AT THE END OF THE
PRESENTATION ITEMS, MEMBERS OF
THIS SUBCOMMITTEE MAY ASK
QUESTIONS OR MAKE COMMENTS ON
ANY OF THE 26 NON PRESENTATION
ITEMS. AFTER ALL THE ITEMS ARE
HEARD WILL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT
IN REGARDS TO THE DEPARTMENT'S
BEFORE US TODAY, FIRST IN THE
ROOM, FOLLOWED BY PHONE
TESTIMONY, EACH MEMBER OF THE
PUBLIC WILL HAVE ONE MINUTE TO
SPEAK. THE PHONE NUMBER IS ON
THE COMMITTEE WEBSITE SHOULD
ALSO BE ON THE SCREEN. IF YOU'RE
WATCHING OVER THE INTERNET, THAT
NUMBER IS 87769. THE ACCESS CODE
IS 131544. IF YOU ENCOUNTER ANY
PROBLEMS, PLEASE CONTACT THE
ASSEMBLY BUDGET COMMITTEE AT
9163192. AND A STAFF MEMBER WILL
ASSIST YOU. WE ARE. JUMPING OVER
OUR QUORUM AND CONSENT CALENDAR
. WE'RE GOING TO GO RIGHT TO OUR
FIRST ITEM, AND THAT'S THE
CIRCULAR CIRCULAR ECONOMY,
IMPLEMENTATION UPDATE AND
GENERAL FUND SOLUTIONS IF THE
PANELISTS WILL ALL PLEASE
APPROACH. AND WE WILL LET, UH
DIRECTOR WAGGONER DECIDE WHO'S
GONNA GO FIRST. GOOD MORNING, MR
CHAIR. I DO HAVE, UM SOME
DOCUMENTS THAT I THINK WOULD BE
HELPFUL FOR THIS DISCUSSION.
BELIEVE COPIES FOR THE OTHER
MEMBERS AS WELL.
NO. YOU'RE GOOD LEGISLATIVE
STAFF, SO THAT'S ALWAYS MY
REACTION. WHEN I SEE A COLOR
CHART. IT WAS LIKE, OH, IT'S
LEGISLATIVE STAFF. IT WAS ALWAYS
SUCH A TREAT TO GET SOMETHING IN
COLOR IS HEAVY ENOUGH CARDBOARD
AND WE COULD USE IT AS A PLACE
BACK FOR YOUR LUNCH LATER.
CYCLING EXACTLY AS YOU'VE SEEN.
THIS IS MY PLACE. MATICS EXACTLY
WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY. RIGHT?
GOOD. WELL GOOD MORNING, MR
CHAIR, AND, UH AND STAFF THIS
MORNING, VERY HAPPY TO BE HERE.
WITH THE ASSEMBLY BUDGET
SUBCOMMITTEE. I AM RACHEL MAKI
WAGNER. I AM THE DIRECTOR OF COW
RECYCLE, AND I'M JOINED TODAY BY
BRANDY HUNT AT MY DEPUTY
DIRECTOR FOR ADMINISTRATION AND
BUDGETS. AND MY ESTEEMED
COLLEAGUE FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF
FINANCE, AND, YOU KNOW, OUR
FRIENDS FROM THE L A. OH, THANK
YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY
TO COME AND SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT
THE INCREDIBLE WORK THAT WE'RE
DOING TO IMPLEMENT AND REALLY
REALIZED THE CIRCULAR ECONOMY
HERE IN CALIFORNIA THANKS TO THE
WORK OF THE LEGISLATURE. OVER
THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, CALVIN
CYCLE HAS BEEN APPROPRIATED OVER
$800 MILLION TO REALIZE THE
CIRCULAR ECONOMY AND MANY OF OUR
REALLY IMPORTANT MARKETS ACROSS
THE ORGANICS RECYCLING SYSTEMS
AND OUR BEVERAGE CONTAINER
RECYCLING SYSTEMS AS WELL AS THE
DEVELOPMENT OF ADDITIONAL
MARKETS THROUGH OUR OUR OUR MDC
PROGRAM, WHICH IS OUR RECYCLING
MARKET DEVELOPMENT ZONE PROGRAM
. AND SO WE HAVE BEEN HARD AT
WORK OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF
YEARS TO TRULY TRY TO REALIZE.
THE TRUE BENEFIT OF A CIRCULAR
ECONOMY HERE IN CALIFORNIA
THROUGH THE APPROPRIATIONS THAT
YOU'VE GIVEN US AS WELL AS THE
LEGISLATION THAT HAS BEEN PASSED
OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.
LAST YEAR ALONE, THE LEGISLATURE
PASSED 15 PIECES OF MONUMENTAL
LEGISLATION THAT WILL REALLY
HELP TRANSFORM THE WAY WE LOOK
AT RECYCLING THE WAY WE LOOK AT
REUSE AND THE WAY WE LOOK AT
WASTE REDUCTION HERE IN
CALIFORNIA, AND SO REALLY AN
INCREDIBLE PLEASURE AND HONOR TO
BE WITH YOU TODAY TO TELL YOU
ABOUT HOW WE'VE BEEN DOING SO
FAR. ARE SO THE PLACEMAT IF YOU
WILL, IN FRONT OF YOU, THE CHART
THAT WE'VE PROVIDED IS AN
OUTLINE. THE TOP PORTION IS AN
OUTLINE OF THE APPROPRIATIONS
THAT WE'VE BEEN GIVEN TO DATE
FOR CIRCULAR ECONOMY AND AS YOU
CAN SEE, IT IS OUR TIMELINE FOR
IMPLEMENTATION OF THOSE
EXPENDITURES. VERY PROUD OF THE
COW RECYCLE GRANT STAFF WHO WHO
ARE LEAN AND MEAN, IN TERMS OF
REALLY EMBARKING ON GRANTS, AND
PARTICULARLY PROUD OF THE WORK
THAT THEY'VE DONE OVER THE LAST
COUPLE OF YEARS TO EXPAND OUR
GRANT PROGRAMS INTO COMMUNITIES
THAT HAVE NOT TRADITIONALLY
APPLIED, UM AND RELOOK AT OUR
GRANT PROGRAMS TO MAKE SURE THAT
ALL CORNERS OF CALIFORNIA HAVE
THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE
IN THE CIRCULAR ECONOMY. NOT THE
LEAST OF WHICH YOU WILL SEE IS
OUR COMMUNITY. COMPOST UM, IT'S
$500,000. BUT IT IS SPECIFICALLY
FOR OUR TRIBAL NATION PARTNERS.
UM AND UM AND HAS REALLY ALLOWED
US TO FOSTER A REALLY
CONSTRUCTIVE AND EXCITING
CONVERSATION WITH OUR TRIBAL
NATION. PARTNERS AROUND
COMPOSTING, WHICH, UM WE HAVE SO
MUCH TO LEARN FROM FROM THEM,
AND IT'S SUCH A GREAT
OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO DO SO.
ADDITIONALLY YOU WILL SEE ACROSS
THE TOP ARE EDIBLE FOOD RECOVERY
PROGRAM. IT IS ONE OF THE ONES
THAT AGAIN LEAN AND MEAN. WE ARE
MOST PROUD OF FOR A VERY SMALL
APPROPRIATIONS OVER THE LAST
FIVE YEARS, RANGING IN THE
AMOUNTS OF ANYWHERE FROM 3 TO $5
MILLION FOR ONE OR TWO YEARS.
WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO REALIZE THAT
SUCH GREAT, UM OPPORTUNITIES TO
BE WORKING WITH FOOD BANKS AND
OTHER REDISTRIBUTION OF EDIBLE
FOOD, UM, COURTESY OF THIS
PARTICULAR PROGRAM. UM WE HAVE
BEEN ABLE TO HELP OUR OUR FOOD
BANKS FACILITATE 150 MILLION
MEALS SERVED ACROSS THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA. FROM FOOD THAT WOULD
HAVE OTHERWISE GONE TO A LOT
LANDFILL THAT WAS STILL VERY
FRESH AND STILL VERY EDIBLE. IN
ADDITION, IT CREATED ALMOST 300
NEW JOBS IN COMMUNITIES. UM AND
, UM, AND IT WAS THE EQUIVALENT
OF TAKING SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 20
AND 30,000 CARS OFF OF THE ROAD
FOR A YEAR, SO AS YOU CAN SEE,
OUR ORGANICS INFRASTRUCTURE
PROGRAMS ARE LOCAL ASSISTANCE
PROGRAMS. ARE WELL ON THEIR WAY
TO HELP BUILD OUT THE
INFRASTRUCTURE FOR ORGANICS
RECYCLING PROGRAMS. UM AND WE
ARE WORKING WITH OUR LOCAL
PARTNERS. UH THE LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS ARE NOW REPORTING
OVER HALF HAVE THEIR RESIDENTIAL
FOOD RECOVERY OR FOOD COLLECTION
SYSTEMS IN PLACE. EXCUSE ME, AND
, UM MORE THAN THAT HAVE
EMBARKED ON THEIR COMMERCIAL
RECYCLING AND COLLECTION SYSTEMS
FOR ORGANIC MATERIAL. SO THEY
ARE REALLY WE HAVE BUILT A
REALLY CONSTRUCTIVE PARTNERSHIP
WITH OUR LOCAL PARTNERS. UM AND
WE ARE WORKING TOGETHER TO REACH
OUR 75% MANDATE UNDER SB 13 83.
UM I CAN STOP THERE AS THAT'S ON
ORGANICS. IF THE CHAIR OR IF MR
CONNOLLY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, OR
I CAN GO ON TO BE CRP. PERCENT
OF THEIR WORK ONLY OKAY WITH HER
GOING ON AS I PROBABLY MY
QUESTIONS ARE PROBABLY GOING TO
BE MORE APPROPRIATE AFTER YOU
PULL THE WHOLE THING TOGETHER.
IS THAT ALRIGHT? EXCELLENT OKAY
. EXCELLENT SO ON THE NEXT
PORTION OF OUR PLACEMAT WE HAVE
THE BEVERAGE CONTAINER RECYCLING
PROGRAM AND YOU CAN SEE IT'S
BROKEN DOWN BY THE DIFFERENT
TYPES OF FUNDING SOURCES. THE
TWO TOP FUNDING SOURCES ON THE
QUALITY INCENTIVE PAYMENT
PROGRAM. UM, THE FIRST, UM OF
WHICH IS WELL ON ITS WAY TO BE
AWARDED NEXT YEAR AND THEN THE
SECOND OF WHICH, WHICH IS
THERMAL FORMS. WE HAVE DELAYED
SOMEWHAT AS WE ARE. UM,
RETHINKING HOW WE CREATE
INCENTIVES AND AROUND SORTING ON
THERMAL FORMS, BUT I CAN GO INTO
MORE DETAIL IF ANY OF THE
MEMBERS WOULD LIKE ADDITIONALLY,
YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE STARTED
SCOPING, UM THE START UP LOANS
FOR PROCESSORS AND RECYCLERS AND
THE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AND,
UM, DEPOSIT FOR REUSABLE
CONTAINERS. THOSE ARE ALL NEW
PROGRAMS THAT AS WE LOOK AT
IMPLEMENTATION OF, UM UM SB 10
13, WHICH IS LAST YEAR'S REFORM
TO THE BEVERAGE CONTAINER
RECYCLING PROGRAM, AUTHORED BY
THE PRO TEM THAT ADDED WINE AND
DISTILLED SPIRITS AS WELL AS
CREATE A NEW DEALER COOPERATIVE
SYSTEM. THE EXPANSIONS OF AND
FLEXIBILITY ADDED TO THE PROGRAM
BY A B 13 11 BY MR WOOD. UM AND
ADDITIONALLY, MISHCON LOGGERS
BILL TO CREATE THE BOTTLE REUSE
PROGRAM. AS WE'RE LOOKING AT
THOSE THINGS IN IN THEIR
INDIVIDUALITY, THEY WOULD HAVE
BEEN GREAT PROGRAMS TO START.
BUT WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS
BUILD A SYSTEMATIC APPROACH
WHERE WE'RE IMPLEMENTING ALL OF
THOSE TOGETHER. UM AND SO OUR
DEALERS AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS
HAVE A SENSE OF A LARGER
PICTURE. UM AND SO FINALLY, WHAT
I WOULD SAY IS ON THE BOTTOM
UNDER, UM TÂM AND IN THE IN THE
I DON'T KNOW. PEACHY COLOR
ORANGE. MAYBE YOU SEE THE
REGULATIONS. UM, THAT WILL THAT
THE DEPARTMENT IS EMBARKING ON
UM, AND THE TIMELINES ON THOSE
FOR THE DEPARTMENT. AND WITH
THAT, I'LL STOP BECAUSE I FEEL
LIKE I'VE I'VE LET GO OF A LOT
OF INFORMATION. GREAT CHART MUCH
EASIER TO SORT OF. LOOK AT THIS.
THAT TRY TO JUST READ ALL ALL
THE ALL THE VERBIAGE THAT WOULD
GO TO TRY TO DESCRIBE THIS, SO I
APPRECIATE APPRECIATE YOU DOING
THAT IT DOES HELP. ME MAKE THE
POINT THAT WHAT WHAT RECYCLING
IS IN CALIFORNIA RIGHT NOW AS A
SERIES OF PIECEMEAL PROGRAMS, UM
, AND THE CHALLENGES THAT THAT
BRINGS FOR US, AND SO I'LL HAVE
MORE CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT,
ACTUALLY, WHEN WE GET TO THE
CIRCULAR ECONOMY UM, BUT ON THIS
ITEM OF THE OTHER PANELISTS THAT
WE HAVE HERE DO YOU EITHER HAVE
YOUR ASSISTANT OR DOES THE
DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE HAVE
ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD?
I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING, DAD.
THANK YOU, SIR. AND THEN L A OH,
GOOD MORNING, MR CHAIR AND
COMMITTEE MEMBERS, FRANK JIMENEZ
WITH THE LEGISLATIVE ANALYST'S
OFFICE, UM, WHEN IT COMES TO THE
CIRCULAR ECONOMY PACKAGE, THE
GOVERNOR PROPOSES REDUCTIONS TO
PROGRAMS THAT ARE RELATIVELY NEW
OR PROPOSES MONASTERY REDUCTIONS
TO PROGRAMS THAT RECEIVE
SIGNIFICANT GENERAL FUND
AUGMENTATIONS. WE FIND THIS
APPROACH TO BE GENERALLY
GENERALLY REASONABLE. UM, AS OUR
OFFICE HAS MENTIONED BEFORE AND
BUDGET HEARINGS, THE BUDGET
PROBLEM ESTIMATED IN THE
GOVERNOR'S JANUARY BUDGET COULD
BE MUCH LARGER THAN ORIGINALLY
ESTIMATED. UM WITHIN THE
CIRCULAR ECONOMY PACKAGE. WE
FIND THAT THERE COULD BE
OPPORTUNITIES FOR ADDITIONAL
GENERAL FUND SOLUTIONS. UM THE
DEPARTMENT HAS CURRENTLY 180 OR
$240 MILLION OF UNCOMMITTED GR F
FUNDS, UM, THE LEGISLATURE COULD
CONSIDER REDUCING FUNDING FOR
THESE PROGRAMS AND SHIFTING ITS
HIGHEST GENERAL FUND SUPPORTED
ACTIVITIES TO G R F. UM THIS
WOULD SUSTAIN THE HIGHEST
PRIORITY PROGRAMS FOR THE
LEGISLATURE AND ALSO FIND
GENERAL FUND SOLUTIONS. FOR
INSTANCE, DEPARTMENT HAS ROUGHLY
$180 MILLION IN UNCOMMITTED
GHIRA, FRANCE FOR THE SP 13 83
IMPLEMENTATION GRANTS. WHILE
THESE GRANTS SUPPORT LOCAL
AGENCIES AND IMPLEMENTING SB 13
83, THIS MAY NOT BE THE
LEGISLATURE'S HIGHEST GENERAL,
OUR GENERAL JDRF PRIORITIES.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IF I COULD.
JUST ON THAT PARTICULAR POINT,
WE DID GO OUT TO SOLICITATION ON
THOSE GRANTS FOR LOCAL
ASSISTANCE. UM LAST MONTH, AND
SO WE ARE PREPARING TO AWARD
THOSE TO LOCAL GOVERNMENT, SO
JUST TO BE AWARE AS THAT WAS
APPROPRIATED LAST YEAR UNDER G R
F, WE ARE WORKING VERY HARD. I
KNOW THAT OUR LOCAL PARTNERS ARE
REALLY IN NEED OF THE STATE'S
ASSISTANCE IN ORDER TO MEET THE
13 83 OBJECTIVES, AND SO WE WERE
WORKING VERY QUICKLY TO GET THEM
THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING BUT
MAKING SURE TO DO SO THAT IT
TRULY REALIZES THE INTENT OF THE
ORGANICS RECYCLING PROGRAM THAT
THE LEGISLATURE PASSED. THANK
YOU. SO I THINK MAYBE WE HAVE A
QUORUM IS THERE WE WILL PAUSE
FOR A SECOND BECAUSE THESE ARE
PRECIOUS MEMBERS TO GET HOLD OF.
OH, AND TAKE A QUORUM, RIGHT? SO
YOU CAN HAVE AN OFFICIAL HEARING
NOW. BENNETT PRESIDENT.
CONNELLY. HE'S SAILING.
FRIEDMAN. GARCIA. PATERSON
RIVAS. HERE. THANK YOU. OKAY UM
, AND LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON
THE CONSENT CALENDAR WHILE WE
HAVE EVERYBODY HERE AND THERE
ONLY BE ONE MOTION AND THE
RECOMMENDED RECOMMENDATION IS TO
APPROVE ITS BUDGETED VOTE ONLY
ISSUE ITEMS ONE THROUGH 15 CAN I
HAVE A MOTION FOR THAT? PLEASE?
SECOND IT PLEASE CALL THE ROLL
BENNETT. HI. CONNELLY. YOU SAY
LEE FREEDMAN. GARCIA PATERSON
RIVAS. PLEASURE PASSES SPORTS
HERE. THANK YOU. WE'LL LEAVE THE
ROLL OPEN. AND, UM. MEMBERS DO
YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS
ABOUT ISSUE ONE? APPRECIATE BOTH
ALL THREE OF YOU SHOWING UP. A
COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AND ALSO
APPRECIATE THE CHART REALLY
HANDY. I WENT TO A WIDESPREAD
CLOSURES OF RECYCLING FACILITIES
IN THE STATE, AS WELL AS CHANGES
IN INTERNATIONAL RECYCLING
MARKETS. WHAT IS THE CURRENT
STATUS OF OUR BOTTLE BILL
RECYCLING PROGRAM? IS IT WORKING
AT THE PRESENT TIME, MR
CONNELLY? THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
THAT QUESTION. I THINK THAT'S A
REALLY IMPORTANT QUESTION ABOUT
10. YEARS AGO, WE STARTED TO SEE
MAJOR CHANGES IN THE RECYCLING
MARKET THAT LED TO CLOSURES OF
RECYCLING CENTERS ACROSS THE
STATE. IT'S BEEN RELATIVELY
STABLE SINCE 2021 WITH PLUS
REMIND US FIVE OR SIX COMING ON
BOARD AND LEAVING THE PROGRAM
EVERY MONTH. I STILL SEE THAT AS
NOT WHERE WE WANT TO BE. THESE
ARE TYPICALLY SMALL BUSINESSES,
AND THAT STABILITY IS REALLY, UM
IMPORTANT AND AN INDICATION OF
THE SUCCESS OF THE PROGRAM. I
REALLY WANT TO THANK THE
LEGISLATURE, THE PRO TEM
ESPECIALLY FOR HER PASSAGE OF SB
10 13 LAST YEAR, WHICH IN
ADDITION TO ADDING WINE AND
DISTILLED SPIRITS TO THE PROGRAM
, WHICH WILL BRING A VERY STABLE
MATERIAL SOURCE INTO THE PROGRAM
, UM AND HOPEFULLY ALLEVIATE
SOME OF THAT MONTH TO MONTH
INSTABILITY. UM AND ADDITIONALLY
FOR OUR UNSERVED PARTS OF THE
STATE, WHICH IS REALLY MY
CONCERN RIGHT NOW AND ARE
UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES. IT
ALLOWED US TO WORK WITH DEALERS
AND RETAILERS TO DEVELOP A
PROGRAM VERY SIMILAR TO OUR NPR
PROGRAMS THAT ARE DEALER
COOPERATIVE'S SO THE DEALERS
WOULD WORK WITH RECYCLING
CENTERS WITH PROCESSORS,
HOPEFULLY WITH SOME OF OUR RE
MANUFACTURERS TO CREATE A
COOPERATIVE Tð BRING THE
MATERIAL INTO MAYBE GROCERY
STORES THROUGH REVERSE VENDING
MACHINES OR MOBILE RECYCLING,
DEPENDING ON THE REGION OF THE
STATE. TO REALLY INCREASE THE
AVAILABILITY AND CONVENIENCE OF
THIS PROGRAM FOR EVERY
CALIFORNIA AND MY MAIN GOAL WITH
THIS PROGRAM RIGHT NOW IS TO
MAKE IT ACCESSIBLE TO EVERY
SINGLE CALIFORNIA AND THAT MAY
LOOK DIFFERENT IN DIFFERENT
PARTS OF THE STATE. BUT THAT
EVERY CALIFORNIA SHOULD HAVE
READY ACCESS TO THIS PROGRAM. IT
IS THEIR MONEY. AFTER ALL, THIS
IS NOT OUR MONEY. THIS IS THEIR
MONEY, AND I WANT TO GET IT BACK
TO THEM APPRECIATE THAT. UM NEXT
QUESTION IS, AS WE KNOW, LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR
COMPLIANCE WITH SB 13 83. WE'RE
HEARING A LOT ABOUT THAT ORGANIC
WASTE DIVERSION REQUIREMENTS.
WOULDN'T CUTTING THE FUNDING FOR
IMPLEMENTATION AND
INFRASTRUCTURE. IN EFFECT, JUST
MOVE THOSE COSTS TO LOCAL
REPAIRS. IT NEEDS TO BE A
PARTNERSHIP. I THINK BETWEEN
LOCAL STATE SOME FEDERAL AND
PRIVATE PARTNERS TO BUILD OUT
THE NECESSARY INFRASTRUCTURE, A
STUDY DONE ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO
ESTIMATED THAT IT WOULD COST
ABOUT $40 BILLION FOR THE STATE
OF CALIFORNIA TO BUILD ALL OF
THE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDED. AND
SO IT'S KIND OF AN ALL HANDS ON
DECK SITUATION THE STATE HAS
INVESTED. ROUGHLY OVER THE LAST
. WE'LL CALL IT FIVE YEARS,
ROUGHLY HALF A BILLION DOLLARS
INTO THE INFRASTRUCTURE. UM
WHETHER IT'S RECOVERY GRANTS OR
DIRECT GRANTS TO THE LOCALS IN
THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, I
THINK THE $60 MILLION THAT
HELPED JUMPSTART THE PROGRAMS
TWO YEARS AGO FOR THE LOCALS
WITH MUCH APPRECIATED. I DON'T
WANT TO SPEAK FOR THE LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS, BUT BASED ON OUR
CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM. IT
REALLY DID HELP FACILITATE
JUMPSTARTING THEIR PROGRAMS AND
THE ADDITIONAL MONEY THAT THE
LEGISLATURE APPROPRIATED LAST
YEAR IS VERY MUCH ANTICIPATED
AND NEEDED. I THINK, YOU KNOW IF
YOU LOOK ACROSS THE TOP OF THE
CHART AT THE VARIOUS TYPES OF
PROGRAMS WHO ARE REALLY TRYING
TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE, UM
ENOUGH TO JUMP START DIGESTION
PROJECTS, ANAEROBIC DIGESTION
PROJECTS. UM COMPOST, WHICH
HAPPENS TO BE MY FAVORITE, AND I
COULD TALK ABOUT ALL DAY. BUT
THESE ARE ALL WONDERFUL PROJECTS
THAT WILL BE NOT ONLY AN
ENVIRONMENTAL AND CLIMATE
BENEFIT, BUT THEIR COMMUNITY
BENEFITS. SO WHEN WE GRANT THE
MONEY'S THIS WAY, WE ARE PUTTING
THAT THAT BENEFIT THAT ECONOMIC
AND ENVIRONMENTAL AND PUBLIC
HEALTH BENEFIT BACK INTO THE
COMMUNITY, SO I THINK IT'S AN
ALL HANDS ON DECK KIND OF
SITUATION. GREAT AND JUST WANTED
TO ASK A COUPLE QUESTIONS ON
SOME OF THE PROPOSED CARDS GIVEN
THE CAL RECYCLE IS ACCEPTING
APPLICATIONS FOR ORGANIC WASTE
INFRASTRUCTURE GRANTS. DO WE
HAVE A SENSE OF HOW REDUCING OR
DELAYING THIS FUNDING WOULD
IMPACT PROJECTS ALREADY IN THE
PIPELINE, SO I AM GOING TO PASS
IT OVER TO MY ESTEEMED COLLEAGUE
LEAGUES AT THE DEPARTMENT OF
FINANCE AS THEY HAVE THE BIGGER
PICTURE VIEW ON HOW WE'RE GOING
TO ACHIEVE OUR OVERALL, UH
FINANCIAL AND ENVIRONMENTAL
GOALS AND MOVE THROUGH, UH, THAT
THIS YEAR'S BUDGET YEAH, THANK
YOU. ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S FOR THAT
QUESTION. CHRISTIAN BELTRAN WITH
THE DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE JUST
WANTED TO SPECIFICALLY TALK.
RELATED TO THE $4.8 MILLION
REDUCTION THAT WE'RE PROPOSING,
SO THE $4.8 MILLION IS A
REDUCTION THAT WE ARE INTENDING
TO COMPLETELY REDUCED FROM
GENERAL FUND. HOWEVER, THE
ADMINISTRATION IS WORKING
INTERNALLY TO IDENTIFY POTENTIAL
OTHER FUNDING SOURCES FOR THAT
SPECIFIC AMOUNT, GIVEN THE
NATURE OF THE EQUITY THAT
SURROUNDS THAT PARTICULAR
PROGRAM, SO WE'RE WORKING
INTERNALLY TO SEE IF THAT IS A
POSSIBILITY. BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW
IT IS A GENERAL CRIME REDUCTION
TO THE EXTENT OF THE DELAY OR
HOW THAT IMPACTS PROGRAMMATIC. I
WOULD DEFER BACK TO CALVIN CYCLE
TO SEE HOW THAT COULD COULD PLAY
OUT. AND THEN SIMILARLY, I
APPRECIATE THAT. SIMILARLY IN
TERMS OF THE COMPOSTING. HOW ARE
CUT? HOW ARE THE PROPOSED CUTS
GOING TO AFFECT SMALL SCALE
COMPOSTING PROGRAMS,
PARTICULARLY IN DISADVANTAGED
COMMUNITIES, AS CHRISTIANS SAID,
WE ARE WORKING TO IDENTIFY OTHER
FUNDING SOURCES TO MEET THE
COMPU NITTY COMPOSTING NEED AND
DEMAND ON THE LOCAL LEVEL. WE
SEE GREAT VALUE. THE
ADMINISTRATION SEES GREAT VALUE
IN THOSE PROGRAMS, ESPECIALLY
BECAUSE THEY ARE AN OPPORTUNITY.
FOR EVERYONE TO PARTICIPATE IN
IN COMPOSTING. BUT AS YOU NOTED
, WE HAVE NEED ACROSS ALL OF OUR
COMPOSTING PROGRAMS. UM LARGE
AND SMALL. UM SO, UM, YOU KNOW,
WE ARE RECOGNITION RECOGNITION
OF THE FACT THAT THE PROJECTIONS
FOR THE GENERAL FUND OR WHAT
THEY ARE. WE ARE LOOKING TO FIND
OTHER FUNDING SOURCES THAT ARE
AVAILABLE SO THAT WE CAN MEET
THAT THAT NEED OTHER MEMBERS
HAVE QUESTIONS. I HAVE A FEW
QUESTIONS. BUT FIRST DEPARTMENT
OF FINANCE WHOEVER IS THE
APPROPRIATE PERSON FROM THE
DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE WOULD
COULD YOU PLEASE READ THE CUTS
INTO THE RECORDS? GOOD MORNING,
JOHN PARSONS, THE DEPARTMENT OF
FINANCE THE OVERALL REDUCTION TO
THE PACKAGES $24 MILLION ACROSS
THREE PROGRAMS. THAT WOULD BE
THE COMPOSTING OPPORTUNITIES
PROGRAM AT 4.8 MILLION. THE
RECYCLING FEASIBILITY GRANTS
PROGRAM AT 15 MILLION AND THE
RECYCLING MARKET DEVELOPMENT
ZONE LOAN PROGRAM AT 4.5 MILLION
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COULD YOU
PROVIDE A UPDATE ON THE BOTTLE
BILL RECYCLING RATE. UM WHERE
ARE WHERE ARE WE WITH THAT, AND
RECENT EXPANSIONS, ENCLOSURE
CLOSURES IS A LITTLE BIT OF A
FOLLOW UP TO ASSEMBLY MEMBER
CONNOLLY'S SO WE HAVE BEEN
PRETTY STABLE BETWEEN 68 70% FOR
OUR OVERALL RECYCLING RATE. UM
WE HAVE INCREASED. IT'S BEEN AN
INTERESTING TREND TO WATCH OVER
THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS BECAUSE
THE NUMBER OF BEVERAGE
CONTAINERS PURCHASED DURING THE
PANDEMIC ACTUALLY WAS A VERY
STEEP INCLINE. UM AND WE HAVE
ANTICIPATED THAT THAT WOULD
START TO TAPER OFF BUT HASN'T
REALLY BUT THE RATE OF OVERALL
RECYCLING SO BY PERCENTAGE IS
STILL THE SAME. SO WE ARE
RECYCLING MORE BEVERAGE
CONTAINERS. UM LAST WE RECYCLED
MORE BEVERAGE CONTAINERS LAST
YEAR THAN WE EVER HAD BEFORE. SO
WE SEE THE RECYCLING RATE BY
PERCENTAGE STAY RELATIVELY
STABLE AT WE'RE NOW UP TO 70% OR
JUST OVER 70. WE WERE DOWN TO
68. UM. BUT IN TERMS OF NO
NUMBER OF CONTAINERS, WE ARE
SEEING AN INCREASE. HOW ARE WE
ADVERTISING TO DISADVANTAGED
COMMUNITIES? THE AVAILABILITY OF
THESE FUNDS THAT THE NEW FUNDS
THAT THE LEGISLATURE
APPROPRIATED, UM LAST YEAR, SO
WE DID SOME INITIAL OUTREACH IN
CONVERSATIONS WITH SOME OF UM,
OF THE RECYCLING CENTERS AND, UM
AND AR ARE STAKEHOLDERS IN THE
GROUP. AND I SHOULD SAY UM. I
TOOK A STEP BACK IN JANUARY. THE
MONEY WAS APPROPRIATED IN
SEPTEMBER AND WE STARTED TO
THINK ABOUT HOW COULD WE GET
THIS MONEY OUT THE DOOR AND WE
TOOK A LITTLE BIT OF A STEP BACK
BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT WAS
APPROPRIATED LAST YEAR WAS, I
BELIEVE ROUGHLY 73 MILLION FOR,
UM, DEPLOYMENT OF TECHNOLOGY AND
UNSERVED AREAS. WHAT WE WEREN'T
SEEING WHAT, UH, WE'RE RECYCLING
CENTERS COMING FORWARD AND
ASKING FOR THIS MONEY FOR THIS
TECHNOLOGY, AND IT GAVE ME A
LITTLE BIT OF PAUSE TO BE VERY
HONEST WITH YOU ON MAKING SURE
THAT THIS MONEY GOES OUT THE
DOOR IN A WAY THAT, UM, WHEN WE
MAKE AN INVESTMENT IN TECHNOLOGY
SAY WE GAVE A MILLION DOLLAR
GRANT FOR A BAG DROP SYSTEM THAT
THAT INVESTMENT WAS SUSTAINABLE
BY WHOEVER WE GAVE THE GRANT,
TOO, SO WE ARE LEARNING A LOT
AND CONTINUE TO LEARN A LOT FROM
OUR PILOT PROJECTS WITH OUR
LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AND ONE OF THE
MAIN LESSONS THAT I'M LEARNING
SO FAR IS THAT THOSE
PARTNERSHIPS ARE REALLY
IMPORTANT THAT HAVING THOSE
THOSE GRANT FUNDS GO OUT AND
MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO
MAINTAIN THE TECHNOLOGY
SUSTAINED THE PARTICULAR SITE
FOR THAT TECHNOLOGY WILL BE
ABSOLUTELY CRITICALLY IMPORTANT.
SO WE HAVE STARTED SOME
CONVERSATIONS WITH, UM SOME OF
OUR OTHER STAKEHOLDERS. SOME OF
THE DEALERS ETCETERA ON HOW CAN
WE BUILD PARTNERSHIPS EVEN
BEFORE THE CO OPS COME ON BOARD
SO THAT WE CAN START DEPLOYING
THIS TECHNOLOGY? ADDITIONALLY I
THINK THERE ARE YOU KNOW A
NUMBER OF CONCERNS AROUND THE
SUPPLY CHAIN. AS WE ALL KNOW,
I'M SURE YOU ARE ONLY TOO AWARE
FROM ALL OF THE COMMITTEES. YOU
ALL SIT ON. THAT THE SUPPLY
CHAIN AND BUILDING OUT THIS
TECHNOLOGY IS GOING TO TAKE US A
LITTLE BIT LONGER THAN WE WERE
HOPING SO WHAT WE ARE LOOKING TO
DO? UM AND I'M GIGGLING TO
MYSELF BECAUSE THE POWER CYCLE
STAFF DON'T EVEN KNOW THIS YET.
WE ARE LOOKING TO BUILD OUT SOME
SMALL, UM REGIONAL TEST
OPPORTUNITIES, UM, TO GET SOME
LARGER GRANTS OUT SO THAT WE CAN
DEPLOY TECHNOLOGY IN, UM IN
REGIONS TO SEE HOW WE CAN DO
THAT AND DO IT WITH PARTNERS
THAT CAN STAIN THAT TECHNOLOGY
AND THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST AND
BUDGET 73 YOU REALLY, REALLY
DON'T MISS ANOTHER MEETING,
RIGHT PURSUANT TO SOME
CONVERSATIONS I HAD YESTERDAY.
SO WONDERFUL. ALL RIGHT. THANK
YOU. UM, THE. YOU KNOW THAT THE
WHOLE PIECEMEAL ASPECT OF OUR
RECYCLING PROGRAM. I THINK IT'S
HIGHLIGHTED BY BOTH THE CHART BY
WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU
KNOW, AS WE'RE MOVING FORWARD,
AND SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO
MOVING ON IF WE HAVE NO OTHER NO
OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS, UM, THE
ONE OF THE CIRCULAR ECONOMY IS
BUT YOU'RE GOING TO DO THE
CIRCULAR. YEAH, THAT'S OKAY. SO
. YES GREAT. ALRIGHT SO WE'RE
GONNA GO AHEAD AND MOVE RIGHT TO
ISSUE TOO. AND. START OVER AGAIN
AND LET THE DIRECTOR DECIDE WHO
GOES FIRST, RIGHT? THE AH, THE
DEVELOPMENT OF THE STATEWIDE
ZERO WASTE. THANK YOU. SHY MADE
THIS VERY CONVENIENT. SMALL
ISSUE THAT YOU HAD A LITTLE
INTERESTING. WELL, THIS IS
PERFECT BECAUSE YOU LET US RIGHT
OFF AND THE PIECEMEAL FEEL OF
OUR RECYCLING SYSTEM IS FELT BY
EVERY SINGLE CALIFORNIA I OFTEN
TELL A STORY THAT THAT HAPPENED
A FEW MONTHS AGO AND NOT TO SELL
OUT THE COLLEAGUES THAT THAT I
WAS OBSERVING, BUT WE WERE IN
THE U. S CPI BULLYING IN SAN
FRANCISCO, UM AND SHE HAD A CUP
IN HER HAND AND SHE WAS LOOKING
ACROSS. SIX BINS AND TRYING TO
FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO WITH HER
CUP. AND IT WAS IN THAT MOMENT
THAT IT FULLY RESONATED WITH ME
. WHY I'M IN THE SPOT THAT I'M
IN IS TO RESOLVE THAT FOR EVERY
SINGLE SINGLE CALIFORNIA IT IS
REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE
REINSTATE THE FAITH IN OUR
RECYCLING SYSTEM AND OUR OUR
WASTE REDUCTION SYSTEMS FOR
EVERY SINGLE CALIFORNIA EVERY
CALIFORNIA KNOWS THAT NATIONALLY
, WE'RE RECYCLING 9% OF THE OF
THE OF WHAT WE'RE PUTTING IN THE
BLUE BEND. WE'RE DOING SLIGHTLY
BETTER HERE IN CALIFORNIA. BUT
OF THE 42% OF OUR WASTE THAT
WE'RE RECYCLING 17% OF THAT IS
STILL GOING OVERSEAS AND
UNFORTUNATELY IN 2021,
CALIFORNIA LAND FILLED 41
MILLION TONS OF WASTE. THAT IS A
TON TON PER CALIFORNIAN. WE CAN
DO BETTER. WE NEED TO DO BETTER
. UM, AND IT'S REALLY INCUMBENT
UPON US AS THE STATE TO REALLY
SET THE STAGE AND PROVIDE THE
INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE RESOURCES
FOR CALIFORNIANS TO DO THEIR
PART BECAUSE WE KNOW THEY'RE
YOUR CONSTITUENTS. WE ALL KNOW
THAT THEY WANT TO DO THAT. SO UM
WHAT WE HAVE PUT FORWARD. YES,
IS A PLAN. FOR A ZERO WASTE PLAN
, AND I REALLY WANT TO HIGHLIGHT
THE FACT THAT WE HAVE BEEN VERY
SUCCESSFUL AS A STATE WE HAVE
SINCE THE INCEPTION OF OUR
PROGRAMS. WE HAVE RECYCLED
ALMOST HALF A BILLION HALF A
BILLION. DID I GET THAT RIGHT?
HALF A BILLION BEVERAGE
CONTAINERS? I CAN'T EVEN GET MY
HEAD ON EXACTLY WHAT THAT MEANS.
UM UM, MILLIONS OF GALLONS OF
USED OIL. MILLIONS OF GALLONS OF
PAINT. UM AH, HUNDREDS OF
MILLIONS OF TONS OF E WASTE. OUR
PROGRAMS ARE VERY SUCCESSFUL FOR
WHAT THEY ARE BUILT TO DO, BUT
TO THE CHAIR'S POINT, THEY ARE
VERY PIECEMEAL AND WHAT WE
REALLY NEED TO DO IF WE'RE GOING
TO REALIZE THE $142 BILLION
ECONOMIC BENEFIT OF A CIRCULAR
ECONOMY FOR CALIFORNIA IS THAT
WE NEED TO COME UP WITH A
STRATEGIC PLAN THAT CONNECTS ALL
OF THE DOTS THAT MAKES US TRULY
CIRCULAR. SO UM, WHAT WE HAVE
PROPOSED IN THE BUDGET IS $2
MILLION, PLUS TWO POSITIONS TO
DEVELOP A STRATEGIC PLAN TO GET
CALIFORNIA +20 WASTE. IT WOULD
BE THE FIRST EVER STATEWIDE PLAN
OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS WHO HAVE
EMBARKED ON THIS JOURNEY FOR
OVER THE LAST DECADE, UM, MANY
OF WHICH YOU REPRESENT, UM UM
HAVE ASKED US TO DO THIS ON A
STATEWIDE BASIS BECAUSE IT IS
VERY DIFFICULT, IF NOT
IMPOSSIBLE TO DO IT. LOCAL
GOVERNMENT BY LOCAL GOVERNMENT,
SO WE ARE VERY EXCITED TO WORK
WITH THE LEGISLATURE TO COME UP
WITH THE STRATEGIC PLAN THAT
WILL IDENTIFY THE GAPS. IN OUR
CURRENT RECYCLING AND WASTE
SYSTEMS IDENTIFY THE
OPPORTUNITIES FOR RE
MANUFACTURING AND RECYCLING IN
OUR COMMUNITIES AND, UH AND
WHERE WE CAN CUT DOWN ON
ADDITIONAL WASTE. ONE OF THE
FIRST THINGS I NOTICED WHEN I
CAME TO THE DEPARTMENT ARE THE
PLACES WHERE WE HAVE THESE
MASSIVE GAPS IN SYSTEMS THAT WE
REALLY COULD PROVIDE FOR, BUT I
CAN'T QUITE PUT MY FINGER ON HOW
TO FILL THOSE GAPS, FOR EXAMPLE.
UM, PAPER. PAPER IS EMINENTLY
RECYCLABLE. WE ALL KNOW THAT. UM
BUT WE SEND OUR PAPER TO OTHER
COUNTRIES AND OTHER STATES TO
RECYCLE AND RE PULP AND THEN IT
COMES BACK TO US. WE CAN CUT
BACK ON OUR GLOBAL. UM EMISSIONS
WE CAN CUT BACK ON OUR POLLUTION
. WE CAN CUT BACK ON THE AMOUNT
OF TRANSPORT IF WE CAN BUILD
THAT INFRASTRUCTURE FOR
CALIFORNIA, WHICH IS TO THE
ECONOMIC BENEFIT OF THE STATE.
UM AND SO, ACTUALLY, I HAVE MORE
PROPS. I HAVE MORE. AS A FORMER
STAFFER. THIS IS LIKE THIS IS MY
DREAM, SO I DIDN'T GIVE IT TO
THE SERGEANT. UM SO THIS IS JUST
IS JUST A ILLUSTRATION THAT WE
PUT TOGETHER. UM AND IT'S ALSO
ON OUR WEBSITE THAT SHOWS WHERE
CALIFORNIA HAS HAD GREAT SUCCESS
IS AND WHERE AND WHERE WE CAN DO
BETTER.
OKAY? YEAH, YEAH. GIVE US A
MOMENT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS.
BUT DO YOU REALLY IS THERE
ANYBODY ELSE BESIDES L? A OH
DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE THAT HAS
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS YOURS.
SORRY. I THINK I CAN GET IN THE
ENTIRE STUFF. OKAY, THE TOP OF
YOUR MOSTLY. L A. OH, WOULD YOU
LIKE TO IT WAS YOUR ASSESSMENT.
THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. UM, WE
RECOMMEND THAT THE LEGISLATURE
REJECT THIS PROPOSAL. WE FIND
THAT MANY OF THE ACTIVITIES THAT
DEPARTMENT WOULD UNDERTAKE WITH
THE PLAN SHOULD ALREADY BE
OCCURRING WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT.
THIS INCLUDES ASSESSING CURRENT
PROGRAMS AND IDENTIFYING GAPS
AND IMPROVEMENTS NEEDED FOR THE
DEPARTMENT TO ACHIEVE ITS
MISSION AND STATUTORY GOALS. UM
THIS INCLUDES THE 75% RECYCLING
RATE TARGET THAT WAS ESTABLISHED
UNDER 83 41, WHICH THE PLAN
WOULD ASSESS WAYS TO ACHIEVE BY
2035. IF YOU LOOK ON PAGE 31, IF
YOUR AGENDAS WE HAVE A CHART
THAT SHOWS THE STATEWIDE
RECYCLING RATE RELATIVE TO THE
ORIGINAL GOAL SET OUT AND MAYBE
341 WE ALSO FIND THAT THE PLAN
COULD BECOME QUICKLY OUTDATED.
ALSO NOTIFIED IN YOUR AGENDA IS
VARIOUS SIGNIFICANT SIGNIFICANT
PIECES OF LEGISLATION THAT THE
LEGISLATURE ENACTED, WHICH
EXPANDED COWER CYCLES ROLE IN
VARIOUS WASTE STREAMS. IN MANY
CASES, THESE POLICIES AND
PROGRAMS WON'T BE A UNDERWAY
UNTIL 2025 WHICH IS AROUND THE
TIME THAT THE PLAN WOULD BE
COMPLETED. SO THE PLAN WOULDN'T
BE ABLE TO INCORPORATE. TO THE
EXTENT THAT THESE NEW POLICIES
ARE MEETING THEIR INTENDED
TARGETS ARE ARE ACHIEVING THEM.
SO ONCE THOSE PROGRAMS ARE IN
PLACE, IT MAKES THE PLAN QUICKLY
OUTDATED. WE ALSO NOTE THAT THE
DEPARTMENT HAS CONDUCTED SIMILAR
REPORTS WITHOUT ADDITIONAL
RESOURCES. FOR INSTANCE, THE
DEPARTMENT COMPLETED A REPORT
RELATIVE RATE RELATED TO MAYBE
341 AS PART OF THAT POLICIES,
STATUTORY REPORTING REQUIREMENT,
WHICH IS SUNSET. UM AND
DEPARTMENT WAS ABLE TO COMPLETE
THAT WITHOUT ANY ADDITIONAL
RESOURCES. UM, HAPPY TO TAKE ANY
QUESTIONS. MEMBERS. DO WE HAVE
QUESTIONS? ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S.
THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. YOU KNOW, I
REALLY APPRECIATE THIS UPDATE.
UM AND, UH, HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT
THE YOUR PROPOSED STATEWIDE, UH
, ZERO WASTE PLAN. I'M READING
FROM THE AGENDA AND ALSO LOOKING
AT YOUR HAND OUT, UM, THAT MAYBE
THIS HIGH LEVEL PLAN MAY NOT BE
THE BEST APPROACH. GIVEN THAT
THE DIFFERENT CHALLENGES THAT
ARE ASSOCIATED WITH EACH PROGRAM
LIKE 13, 83 AND THEN THE
BEVERAGE CONTAINER PROGRAM, UH
AND YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW THE REST
OF THE PROGRAMS THAT YOU HAVE
LISTED ON YOUR HANDOUT. HOW DO
YOU THINK OR HOW DO YOU ENVISION
THIS PLAN? ADDRESSING THE UNIQUE
NEEDS OF EACH OF THESE PROGRAMS?
SO THAT IS SUCH AN INCREDIBLY
GOOD QUESTION. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S REVIS. UM
SO THAT'S EXACTLY THE POINT OF
THE PROGRAM IS SO THAT OUR OR
EXCUSE ME THE PLANT OF PLAN.
EXCUSE ME. THE POINT OF A ZERO
WASTE PLAN IS TO LOOK ACROSS ALL
OF THE PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE
WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT AND ALL OF
WHAT LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ARE DOING
AND IDENTIFY. THE GAPS. IT
DOESN'T, UM, REPLACE THE
REQUIREMENTS AND ANY ONE OF THE
PROGRAMS, BUT YOU HAVE, UM,
ALIGNMENT AND OVERLAP BETWEEN
THINGS LIKE 13 83, WHICH ARE ALL
OF OUR ORGANIC WASTE, WHICH
INCLUDES PAPER AND OTHER FIBER.
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT
IMPLEMENTATION OF 54. I WOULD
ARGUE THAT THIS IS EXACTLY THE
TIME THAT WE SHOULD COME UP WITH
A STRATEGIC PLAN IS WE'RE
IMPLEMENTING THE 15 NEW PIECES
OF LEGISLATION THAT WERE PASSED
LAST YEAR. WE SHOULD HAVE A PLAN
FOR HOW DO WE ALIGN ALL THESE
PROGRAMS SO WE DON'T CREATE MORE
GAPS IN OUR SYSTEM, BUT RATHER
ENVISION A WHOLE SYSTEMS
APPROACH TO, UH, BASICALLY
ELIMINATE ANYTHING GOING TO
LANDFILL? WE NEED TO BE THINKING
RIGHT FROM THE BEGINNING OF HOW
WE MANUFACTURE OUR GOODS. AS AS
WE TALKED ABOUT IN IN THE
IMPLEMENTATION OR PASSAGE OF SB
54. HOW DO WE DESIGN THINGS TO
NOT END UP IN A WAY SITUATION?
IT'S VERY SIMILAR WITH HOW WE
THINK ABOUT ORGANIC WASTE OR
EVEN OUR BEVERAGE CONTAINER
RECYCLING PROGRAM, EVEN THOUGH
THE PROGRAMS ARE ALL RUN
SEPARATELY AND DIFFERENTLY. THE
CIRCULAR SYSTEM NEEDS TO
INCORPORATE ALL OF THE POINTS
FROM VERY FIRST TOUCH OF THAT
PRODUCT TO HOW IT ENDS UP, UM,
USED AND THEN ENDS UP INTO ITS
NEXT LIFE, WHICH COULD BE, UM
EDIBLE FOOD RECOVERY OVER HERE,
OR PACKAGING RECOVERED OVER HERE
AND RECYCLED. BUT IF WE DON'T
ENVISION AN INFRASTRUCTURE THAT
COVERS ALL OF OUR PROGRAMS, UM
WE END UP I THINK NOT ACHIEVING
OUR GOAL OF REDUCTION AND
DIVERSION OF WASTE AND LANDFILLS
. WE ARE LAND FILLING MORE BY
TONNAGE EVERY YEAR. AND UNLESS
WE COME UP WITH A SYSTEMS
APPROACH AND A PLAN FOR HOW WE
MOVE AWAY FROM THAT OVERALL, I
DON'T THINK WE GET THERE. THANK
YOU. I'M GONNA SPEAK UP HERE AT
THIS POINT IN TIME BECAUSE THIS
IS OF EVERYTHING WE HAVE ON THE
AGENDA TODAY. THIS IN MY MIND IS
THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE FOR US
TO TALK ABOUT. AND AS I
MENTIONED WE HAVE A PIECEMEAL
APPROACH TO RECYCLING. AT THIS
POINT IN TIME, I VERY MUCH
RESPECT AND ALEJO'S. ANALYSIS
WEEK AFTER WEEK AS WE COME IN
HERE TODAY, I DISAGREE WITH LAO
. UM BECAUSE I THINK THAT THE
APPROACH THAT ELLA OH, TALKS
ABOUT WHICH IS LET'S IMPROVE ON
WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS
SORT OF A PIECEMEAL SOLUTION TO
A PROBLEM THAT IS NOT GETTING
BETTER WITH OUR PIECEMEAL
APPROACH. WE WERE ACTUALLY I
WOULD SAY THAT THE RECYCLING
EFFORT IS ENORMOUS EFFORT. WE'RE
WORKING HARD AT IT, BUT IT'S
LIKE WE'RE SWIMMING UPSTREAM,
AND IT JUST KEEPS KEEPS COMING
AT US, UH MORE AND MORE THAN SO
, YOU KNOW, YOU LOOK AT THIS.
YOU LOOK AT THIS CHART. AND YOU
KNOW WE DON'T HAVE THE UPWARDS
UPWARD SPIRAL. YOU KNOW THE
UPWARD UM, SLOPE THAT YOU KNOW
THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR HANDS.
THE IDEA OF SEPARATE PROGRAMS.
THIRD OF IMPLIES THAT IF WE
IMPROVED EACH ONE OF THOSE
PROGRAMS, WHICH IS VERY
DIFFICULT TO DO, BUT IF YOU DID
IMPROVE ALL THOSE PROGRAMS THAT
THAT WOULD BE THE SOLUTION, THE
PROBLEM WE STILL HAVE THE GAPS
IN BETWEEN THERE. WHEN I THINK
WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT RECYCLING
BY SAYING START AT THE
BEGINNING. SO I WOULD AND
BEGINNING IS WHEN A PRODUCT WHEN
SOMETHING IS CREATED. THAT'S
WHEN YOU NEED TO THINK ABOUT HOW
IS IT GOING TO BE RECYCLED? AND,
UH WE HAVE A CHALLENGE IN THAT.
I DON'T THINK THAT THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT AND THE UNITED STATES
HAS EVER GOING TO COME UP WITH A
NATIONAL PLAN FOR RECYCLING THAT
CREATES THE KIND OF COHERENCE
THAT WOULD BE BEST DONE AT THE
FEDERAL LEVEL. AND SO OVER AND
OVER AGAIN. WE SEE THIS STATE OF
CALIFORNIA HAVING TO DO SORT OF
WHAT A NATIONAL GOVERNMENT WOULD
WOULD NORMALLY DO BETTER, AND WE
HAVE TO DO IT WITH THE HANDICAP
OF NOT BEING A NATIONAL
GOVERNMENT JUST BEING YOU KNOW,
ONE STATE BUT A LARGE STATE IN
THERE. SO IF YOU LOOK AT CANADA
I MEAN IN CANADA, THEY HAVE ON A
NATIONAL LEVEL, EMBRACED THE
CONCEPT THAT YOU PRODUCE IT.
YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT BEING
A CLOSED LOOP. YOU DON'T HAVE
THE RIGHT TO SAY I'M GOING TO
PRODUCE SOMETHING. I'M GOING TO
MAKE A PROFIT OFF OF IT, AND
SOMEBODY ELSE IS GOING TO DEAL
WITH THE PROBLEM AT THE END OF
THE WASTE STREAM. AND THAT'S THE
SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE AT THIS
POINT IN TIME, AND I KNOW WHEN
YOU SAY THAT INDUSTRY
IMMEDIATELY KIND OF GETS
NERVOUS, BUT I WOULD OFFER TO
INDUSTRY INDUSTRY IS ACTUALLY
BETTER OFF WITH A CLOSED LOOP.
EVERYBODY HAS A RESPONSIBILITY
PLANTED IN ADVANCE APPROACH THEN
THAN THEY ARE WITH THE
LEGISLATURE PASSING 15 BILLS
LAST YEAR AND HOW MANY BILLS
NEXT YEAR AND CONSTANTLY JUST
PIECEMEAL NG THIS THING BOTH
LEGISLATIVELY AND THEN PROCESS
WISE AS WE'RE GOING FORWARD. SO
THE REASON THAT I SUPPORT THE
PLAN IN SPITE OF THE FACT THAT
WE COULD ALSO USE THE MONEY TO
IMPROVE. WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW IS
I DON'T THINK IF WE DON'T STOP
AND JUST STEP BACK AND SAY HOW
DO WE DO A MUCH BETTER JOB OF
STARTING AT THE BEGINNING, SO I
HOPE THAT THE PLAN WILL LOOK
HARD AT THE CANADIAN MODEL THAT
SAYS IF YOU PRODUCE IT, YOU'VE
GOT TO BE PLAY A MAJOR ROLE IN
BEING RESPONSIBLE FOR HOW IT
ENDS UP BECOMING A CIRCULAR PART
OF THE CIRCULAR ECONOMY. BECAUSE
SO MANY OF OUR THINGS I WE KNOW
IF YOU COULD WOULD CHANGE HOW IT
WAS PRODUCED IN THE FIRST PLACE.
IT WOULD BE A WHOLE LOT EASIER
TO DEAL WITH THE RECYCLING SIDE
OF IT, SO I DO RESPECTFULLY
DISAGREE WITH WITH LAO AND, UM
AND I APPRECIATE THE CONCERNS OF
MY COLLEAGUES, BUT I WANT TO USE
THIS OPPORTUNITY TO THROW OUT. I
I'M I'M FIRED UP ABOUT THIS PLAN
. UM AND I WANT THIS PLAN TO BE
AMBITIOUS AND COME TO US AND SAY
WHAT'S THE BIG FIX? BECAUSE WE
AGAIN WILL PIECEMEAL THIS THIS
TO DEATH AND THE BIG FIX. I'M
GOING TO GO TO CANADA THIS
SUMMER TO LOOK AT THEIR WHOLE
RECYCLING PROGRAM. I KNOW A
NUMBER OF ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
ALREADY HAVE, UM AND I THINK WE
CAN GO THERE AND THEN WE CAN SAY
WELL, THAT'S REALLY NICE. TOO
BAD WE CAN'T DO IT HERE. OR WE
CAN GO THERE AND SAY AT LEAST WE
HAVE A STUDY THAT MIGHT SHOW US
HOW CALIFORNIA COULD BEGIN TO
TAKE THE STEPS TO ADOPT THAT,
BECAUSE THAT'S THAT'S THE
SOLUTION. THAT IS THE GRAND
SOLUTION, AND THAT'S A SOLUTION
THAT WOULD BE WORTH PUTTING
SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF ENERGY
INTO. IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO GET
FIRED UP ABOUT PUTTING. MORE
ENERGY INTO ANOTHER ATTEMPT TO
TRY TO IMPROVE THE BOTTLE, BILL
. YOU KNOW, WE CAN. WE CAN DO
THAT GOOD AND WE'LL STILL HAVE
TO DO THAT. BUT IT WILL BE MUCH
BETTER IF WE PLAN AT THE VERY
BEGINNING THAT THE
RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT BOTTLE
IS THE PERSON WHO CREATED AND
PROFITED FROM CREATING THAT
BOTTLE. FINAL THING. I'LL SAY
ECONOMICS MAJOR IS IF YOU DON'T
PRICE THINGS PROPERLY, YOU DON'T
SEND THE PROPER SIGNALS IN THE
MARKET ECONOMY, AND WE'RE NOT
PRICING THINGS PROPERLY WHEN THE
PERSON WHO SELLS IT DETERMINES
WHAT THE PRICE IS, UM, IS NOT
RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CIRCULAR
LOOP OF THAT PARTICULAR PRODUCT.
AND INSTEAD FOSTERS THAT OFF TO
SOMEBODY ELSE WHO DIDN'T GET TO
BE INVOLVED IN THE PRICING OF
IT. SO IF YOU WE THINGS MAY COST
SLIGHTLY MORE, BUT IMAGINE IF
THEY MEANT WE HAD TO DO A WHOLE
LOT LESS OF THIS PIECEMEAL
RECYCLING. WE'D ALL BE BETTER
OFF. AND THE PUBLIC WOULD
CERTAINLY APPRECIATE NOT GETTING
PIECEMEAL TO DEATH AS WE GO
FORWARD. ONE FINAL THING I WANT
TO MENTION HERE, WHICH IS
SEPARATE FROM THE CIRCULAR
ECONOMY, Z ORGANIC WASTE. I
FORGOT TO MENTION THAT HERE BUT
ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL FOR CLIMATE
CHANGE THAT WE GET THIS ORGANIC
RACE WASTING INTO THE EXTENT
THAT WE CAN FACTOR IN WHAT THE
TRUE CARBON COST ARE OF DOING
BETTER WITH THIS AS WE'RE DOING
THE PLAN THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL
ALSO. SO OTHER MEMBER COMMENTS
SORRY TO YES, MR WRESTLING.
THANK YOU. MR CHAIR. I WANT TO
UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS PROGRAM
ACTUALLY IS. SO YOU'RE ASKING
FOR $2 MILLION TO DEVELOP A
PLAN? WHAT WOULD THE $2 MILLION
ACTUALLY SPENT ON SO THE $2
MILLION WOULD GO TO A CONTRACT
TO DEVELOP A PLAN A STRATEGIC
PLAN FOR HOW DO YOU GET TO ZERO
WASTE? SO YOU WOULD HAVE THAT A
EVALUATION OF HOW ALL OF OUR
CONSUMER PRODUCTS GO OUT INTO
THE MARKET TODAY AND HOW THEY
FOLLOW THEIR PATH INTO THE WASTE
STREAM OR INTO THE RECYCLING
STREAM. IDENTIFYING THE LARGEST
AREAS THAT PREVENT US FROM
KEEPING THINGS FROM A LANDFILL.
UM, AND IDENTIFYING GAPS IN
REMANUFACTURING OR GAPS AND
COLLECTION BY BOTH A REGIONAL
LEVEL OR JUST A STATEWIDE LEVEL
. SO TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF A
PLACE WHERE ARE CIRCULAR ECONOMY
IS REALLY STARTING TO SUCCEED.
UM, AND PLACES WHERE WE HAVE
GAPS. SO UM, THE GALA WINE
CORPORATION HAS STARTED THEIR
OWN RECYCLING AND BOTTLE
MANUFACTURING IN CALIFORNIA, AND
THEY ARE NOW DOING THE MAJORITY
OF WINE BOTTLES FOR THE STATE'S
WINE INDUSTRY. UM THEY ARE AND
HAVE TOLD US THEY ARE IN REAL
NEED OF CLEAN GLASS COLOR IT TWO
BECAUSE THAT THOSE MACHINES NEED
TO BE RUNNING. UM GLASS, VERY
HOT FURNACES. AND SO YOU YOU
CAN'T JUST TURN THEM ON AND TURN
THEM OFF. AND SO THEY NEED
CONSISTENT MATERIAL COMING IN
AND YOU SEE THIS IN A LOT OF OUR
RECYCLING INDUSTRIES AND OUR
REMANUFACTURING INDUSTRIES, YOU
HAVE TO HAVE CONSISTENCY IN YOUR
SUPPLY CHAIN. BUT TO KEEP THAT
CONSISTENCY, YOU HAVE TO KNOW
THAT THAT'S COMING IN FROM YOUR
RECYCLING, AND WE CAN'T SHOW
THAT YET. I APPRECIATE THAT. I
THINK MY QUESTION ISN'T THE GOAL
THAT PLAN. I THINK THE GOAL IS
LOFTY. MY QUESTION IS MORE
SPECIFIC. THE $2 MILLION GOING
TO BE SPENT ON WHAT STAFF
CONTRACT ON A CONTRACT TO WHO TO
A CONTRACTOR WHO WOULD DEVELOP
THE PLAN. UM HOW BIG IS YOUR
AGENCY? HOW MANY STAFF DO YOU
HAVE? WE CURRENTLY HAVE JUST
UNDER 800. GIVEN THE, UM AH,
EXPANSION OF THE ADDITIONAL
LEGISLATION THAT'S BEEN PASSED
OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS. WE WILL
BE JUST UNDER 1000 EMPLOYEES.
1000 EMPLOYEES IS NOT ENOUGH
PEOPLE TO FIGURE THIS OUT IN
YOUR AGENCY. I MEAN, I HAVE TO.
I HAVE TO AGREE WITH THE L A.
OH, THIS IS YOUR JOB. YOU SHOULD
BE DOING THIS ALREADY. WHY YOU
NEED $2 MILLION TO HIRE OUTSIDE
CONTRACTORS AND TWO ADDITIONAL
STAFFERS. WHEN YOU'VE TOTALLY
FAILED TO MEET THE GOALS THAT
WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE AT 75% WERE
DOWN AT 40% AT 42 2 YEARS AGO.
YOU HAVE ALMOST 1000 EMPLOYEES
AND I AGREE WITH L A O THAT YOU
SHOULD BE DOING THIS ALREADY. SO
WHY SHOULD THE TAXPAYERS PAY TWO
MORE MILLION DOLLARS? TO AN
ORGANIZATION THAT HASN'T
PERFORMED, UM UP TO THE
STANDARDS YET. WELL TO BE
PERFECTLY HONEST, IT ISN'T THE
ORGANIZATION THAT ACTUALLY DOES
THE RECYCLING AND THIS EXACTLY
BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HIT THAT 75%
THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR
EFFICIENCIES IN OUR SYSTEMS. SO
WHILE WE DO DO THAT FULL
EVALUATION IN EACH ONE OF OUR
PROGRAMS TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THE
GAPS ARE WE AND WHAT WE'RE
COMING TO THE COMMITTEE TODAY TO
ASK FOR IS HELP TO FIGURE OUT
WHY OUR SYSTEMS AREN'T BETTER
ALIGNED. THE REASON YOU GO OUT
TO CONTRACT FOR SOMETHING LIKE
THIS, AS OPPOSED TO USING OUR
EXISTING EMPLOYEES IS THAT WE
DON'T HAVE THE EXPERTISE AND I'M
RATHER THAN DEVELOP THE
EXPERTISE OVERALL LONG TERM. UM
AND DEVELOP A STAFF OF, YOU KNOW
FOR SOMETHING LIKE THE SCOPING
PLAN THAT CARB HAS TO PUT
TOGETHER OR THAT LARGE STRATEGIC
PLANS FOR OTHER DEPARTMENTS
RATHER THAN BRINGING IN A STAFF
OF 20 OR 40, OR 50 TO DO THAT,
WHAT WE'RE SUGGESTING IS THAT A
CONTRACT A SHORT TERM CONTRACT
IS A MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE WAY
WHERE WE CAN UTILIZE THE
WORKFORCE OF A CONTRACTOR. UM
THE 50 TO 100 EMPLOYEES THAT
WOULD DO THAT ON A SHORT TERM
AND THEN HAVE JUST SIMPLY TO
EMPLOYEES ON OUR STAFF THAT
WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR
MAINTAINING THAT PLAN. IT NEEDS
TO BE A LIVING DOCUMENT. I VERY
MUCH AGREE WITH THE L A. OH IT
DOESN'T DO US ANY GOOD. IF THIS
IS OUTDATED BY THE TIME IT'S
PRINTED ON PAPER OR ON OUR
WEBSITE. UM SO FOR US THAT TO
KEEP THAT DOCUMENT LIVING,
HAVING, UM SCIENTISTS WHOSE
RESPONSIBILITY IS BOTH ECONOMICS
AND THE SCIENCE OF RECYCLING, UM
AND THAT EXPERTISE TO KEEP THAT
DOCUMENT MOVING IS EXACTLY WHAT
WE'RE TRYING TO DO ITS
EFFICIENCIES THAT WE'RE TRYING
TO REALIZE HERE IN OUR SYSTEM.
LET ME ASK THE L A O. UM DO YOU
AGREE WITH THAT ASSESSMENT, OR
DO YOU BELIEVE THIS IS SOMETHING
CAL RECYCLED SHOULD BE DOING IN
HOUSE ALREADY. THANK YOU FOR THE
THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION WHEN
IT COMES TO EXISTING PROGRAMS
AND ASSESSING HOW THEY'RE
CURRENTLY DOING AND HOW THEY
RELATE TO ONE ANOTHER. WE
BELIEVE THAT THAT SHOULD BE, UM
AN ASSESSMENT THAT'S CONTINUALLY
BEING DONE BY THE DEPARTMENT AND
SEEING YOU KNOW WHAT IS THE
BASELINE AND TO WHAT EXTENT ARE
THESE PROGRAMS NOT ABLE TO
ACHIEVE THE GOAL AND WE FEEL
LIKE THAT'S AN ACTIVITY THAT
SHOULD BE ALREADY OCCURRING
WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. THANK
YOU. I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT IF I
COULD JUST REAL QUICK. I DON'T
THINK THE STATEMENT THAT YOU
HAVE FAILED IS ACCURATE. I THINK
THE STATEMENT IS WE HAVE FAILED
BECAUSE RECYCLING DEPARTMENT CAN
ONLY WORK WITHIN THE LEGISLATIVE
BOUNDARIES AND THE AND THE
BUDGET THAT WE HAVE GIVEN THEM
AND GIVEN THE NORMANDY OF THE
TASK HERE. WHICH IS WHY I
SUPPORT THE IDEA OF A PLAN
BECAUSE WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO
DECREASE THE ENORMITY OF THE
ATTACK TASK BY COMING UP WITH A
PLAN THAT MEANS FROM THE VERY
BEGINNING OF THE DESIGN OF THE
PRODUCT, WHERE THINKING MORE
GLOBALLY ABOUT THE END OF
GETTING THAT PRODUCT RIGHT BACK
IN. YOU TALK ABOUT GALLO. YOU
KNOW IF GALLO COULD IF WE MAKE
SURE ALL THE WINE BOTTLES YOU
KNOW, FIT, BUT THAT THAT COMES
FROM INDUSTRY GIVING THAT
INFORMATION ABOUT THIS IS THE
THIS IS THE RIGHT WAY TO DESIGN
THE BOTTLES. THE OTHER THING I'D
LIKE TO RESPOND TO IS WHY GO OUT
AND BRING IN EXPERTS? I THINK
LAO IS CORRECT. THE DEPARTMENT
SHOULD ALWAYS BE CONSTANTLY
EVALUATING ALL OF THEIR
ACTIVITIES THAT ARE GOING ON.
BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THINKING
ABOUT A NEW OVERALL APPROACH. I
THINK THERE'S TREMENDOUS
ADVANTAGES TO BRINGING IN
OUTSIDE EXPERTS WHO ARE FAMILIAR
WITH THE PLACE LIKE CANADA
FAMILIAR WITH WHAT'S GOING ON IN
THE WORLD AND NOT HAVING
SOMEBODY INTERNALLY WHO'S
ALREADY SORT OF COMMITTED TO OUR
CURRENT WAY OF DOING THINGS.
THIS PLAN SHOULD BE VERY
INNOVATIVE, ALMOST AND IT SHOULD
, AND SO YOU NEED THE ADVANTAGES
OF SOME EXPERTS THERE.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S COLUMN,
APPRECIATE IT CHAIR AND JUST
WANTED TO KIND OF DEVIL LITTLE
BIT MORE INTO THE PRIOR LINE OF
QUESTIONING. I NOTICED IN
PARTICULAR A STATEMENT FROM THE
L A WHERE IT SAYS, IN MANY CASES
, THE PROPOSAL NEW ZERO WASTE
PLAN IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE WINE
THAT THE DEPARTMENT PREVIOUSLY
WAS REQUIRED TO COMPLETE UNDER A
B 3 41. CALORIE CYCLE INDICATES
IT WAS ABLE TO COMPLETE ITS
ABBEY 3 41 REPORTING REQUIREMENT
WITHIN ITS EXISTING RESOURCES.
SO TO ME. THAT RAISES THE
QUESTION. WHY WERE THE ORIGINAL
A B 3 41 REPORTING REQUIREMENTS
ELIMINATED IN THE FIRST PLACE?
AND SECONDLY, SHOULD THEY BE
REINSTATED? UH IN ORDER TO
PERHAPS SPEND THAT $2 MILLION
MORE ON ACTUAL PROGRAMS. DESPITE
THE FACT THAT THIS THIS
STATUTORY REQUIREMENT FOR 3 41
EVALUATION HAS HAS CEASED. WE
CONTINUE TO DO THOSE EVALUATIONS
AGAIN. THAT ZERO WASTE PLAN
ISN'T SO MUCH A REPORTING
REQUIREMENT OF VALUATION SIMPLY
OF OUR EXISTING PROGRAMS. IT IS
REALLY LOOKING TO HOW DO WE FIND
THE ALIGNMENTS? UM IN
MANUFACTURING AND RECYCLING. HOW
DO WE FIND THE ALIGNMENTS AND
SOURCE REDUCTION? HOW DO WE LOOK
AT WHERE WASTE IS GOING AS A
COMMODITY OR WASTE IS GOING AS A
BURDEN. AND HOW DO WE CHANGE
THAT? UM FOR THE BETTERMENT OF
THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, AN
EXAMPLE THAT REALLY, UH, MADE ME
START THINKING ABOUT THIS AND GO
TO THE DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE AND
THE GOVERNOR ABOUT THIS IS THAT
WE HAVE A REALLY INNOVATIVE
COMPANY IN, UM IN RIVERSIDE
COUNTY. THAT IS RECYCLING HIGH
QUALITY TIRE CRUMB INTO EXERCISE
MATS. UM BUT THEY HAVE STRUGGLED
AND THEY RECEIVED GRANTS FROM
THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. IT'S A
REALLY GREAT EXAMPLE OF HOW ARE
SMALL GRANT PROGRAMS ARE
ACTUALLY CREATING REALLY
INNOVATIVE AND EXCITING PRODUCTS
AND COMPANIES THEY DO. UM
WORKFORCE TRAINING WITHIN THEIR
COMPANY THEY EMPLOY AROUND 70
PEOPLE. UH THEY DO SOME OF THE,
UM UH, FORMER INCARCERATED
PLACEMENT AND THEY HAVE BROUGHT
IN THEIR OWN PSYCHOLOGISTS. THEY
ARE REALLY A COMMUNITY BENEFIT
COMPANY. THEY CONTINUOUSLY COME
TO US AND SAY WE DON'T HAVE A
SUPPLY CHAIN HERE IN CALIFORNIA.
THAT WE CAN RELY ON FOR THE
QUALITY OF MATERIAL THAT WE NEED
. CAN YOU HELP US AND WE GO TO
THE RECYCLERS WHO ARE COLLECTING
IT AND THAT ARE GOING TO RECYCLE
IT AND SAY OKAY, SO WHAT DO YOU
NEED? IS IT DIFFERENT MACHINERY
? HOW DO WE ENSURE THAT YOU'RE
PLACED IN A PLACE IN CALIFORNIA,
WHERE THE ECONOMICS OF
TRANSPORTATION WORK? IT IS THAT
KIND OF BIG PICTURE PLANNING.
ACROSS ALL OF OUR MATERIAL TYPES
THAT WE CAN'T DO PIECEMEAL BY
PROGRAM AND SUCCEED WE NEED TO
BE LOOKING ABOUT. YOU KNOW
EVERYTHING THAT LANDS ON THAT
TRUCK. HOW DO WE PREVENT IT FROM
LANDING ON THE TRUCK? UM OKAY. I
TRY NOT TO USE THIS EXAMPLE. BUT
THERE ARE THINGS THAT GO INTO
OUR RECYCLING BIN THAT HAVE
THREE SEPARATE TRIPS THAT
ULTIMATELY END UP IN A LANDFILL.
WE ARE CREATING ENVIRONMENTAL
BURDEN WHEN WE ARE ATTEMPTING TO
CREATE ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFIT.
HOW DO WE PREVENT DOING THAT? I
DON'T THINK WE CAN DO IT AT
SIMPLY AND WE ARE WE DO. WE
EVALUATE EACH OF THESE PROGRAMS
ON AN ANNUAL BASIS AND LOOK AT
HOW CAN WE INCREASE
EFFICIENCIES? BUT YOU HAVE
ENTRUSTED UPON US LIKE I SAID 15
NEW PIECES OF LEGISLATION FOR
THE COMING YEARS VERY QUICKLY.
SOME OF THE TIMELINES ARE VERY,
VERY QUICK. UM IN ADDITION TO
THE EXISTING PROGRAMS THAT WE
HAVE AN EXTRAORDINARY AMOUNT OF
FAITH IN OUR ABILITY TO EXPEND
THE MONEY AS WE WENT THROUGH IN
TERMS OF THE CIRCULAR ECONOMY
BUDGET I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
WE ARE EXPENDING THIS MONEY AT
THE GREATEST LEVEL OF EFFICIENCY
INTO THE GREATEST BENEFIT OF THE
PEOPLE OF STOUT STATE OF
CALIFORNIA, WHILE ALSO REALIZING
THE ECONOMIC BENEFIT OF A
CIRCULAR ECONOMY. WE ARE LEAVING
BILLIONS AND BILLIONS OF DOLLARS
EVERY YEAR ON THE TABLE BECAUSE
WE HAVEN'T REALIZED THIS FOR THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA. WE ARE
FURTHER ALONG THAN MANY OF OUR
OTHER STATES. BUT YOU LOOK AT
EUROPE. YOU LOOK AT CANADA. THEY
ARE STARTING TO REALIZE THE
ECONOMIC BENEFIT OF DOING AWAY
WITH WASTE, AND WE HAVE A REAL
OPPORTUNITY RIGHT HERE AND YOU
HAVE GIVEN US THE RESPONSIBILITY
AND I WANT TO MAKE THE MOST OF
THIS PARTICULAR MOMENT IN TIME.
FOR ALL OF US, AND I THINK THE
PLAN COMES BACK TO THE
LEGISLATURE, AND IT SAYS HERE
ARE THE GAPS IN OUR SYSTEMS.
HERE ARE THE GAPS IN OUR
STATUTE. HERE ARE THE PLACES. UM
WHERE? WHERE ENCOURAGES WASTE?
HERE ARE THE PLACES WHERE WE
HAVE EFFECTIVELY DISCOURAGED
WASTE. IT'S AN ECONOMIC REVIEW.
IT'S AN ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW. UM
AND IT IT IS A HOLISTIC APPROACH
THAT HOPEFULLY MAKES THE MOST OF
THE DOLLARS THAT YOU'VE
ENTRUSTED TO US. IF WE DON'T
HAVE ANYTHING ELSE, I'M GONNA
CLOSE ON THIS. AND THAT IS, UM.
HALLELUJAH AND HOW REFRESHING
FROM MY PERSPECTIVE. YOU KNOW,
AS A COUNTY SUPERVISOR WE HAD
ABOUT 25 DEPARTMENTS AND HERE IN
THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA HAS COME
HERE. YOU HAVE A HUGE YOU KNOW
ALL THESE DEPARTMENTS ALL THIS
STUFF. I WISH EVERY DEPARTMENT
WAS SAYING, YOU KNOW WHAT WE'D
LIKE TO COME UP WITH A HOLISTIC
BRAND NEW WAY TO DO BUSINESS,
AND WE'RE WILLING TO, YOU KNOW,
HUSTLE TO TRY TO DO THAT, AND
WE'RE WILLING TO TAKE THE
CHANCES IN TERMS OF WHAT THAT
YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, MAY REVEAL
WE DON'T HAVE THIS KIND OF
REQUEST. OFTEN ENOUGH. WHEN
WE'RE THINKING ABOUT ALL THE
CHALLENGES. WHAT IF WE DID THIS
WITH FOSTER CARE? WHAT IF WE DID
THIS WITH HOUSING AND YOU KNOW,
AND YOU KNOW WHAT STARTED THE
BEGINNING? WHAT'S SO, UM, I CAN
APPRECIATE I WOULD NOT SUPPORT
THIS JUST IN GENERAL. BUT WHEN
YOU HAVE A DIRECTOR THAT IS AS
ON FIRE ABOUT DOING THIS AS WE
HAVE WITH WITH WITH RECYCLING. I
THINK IT IS AN APPROPRIATE
INVESTMENT IN THIS SITUATION
BECAUSE SOMEBODY'S COMING AND
SAYING, YOU KNOW THE SYSTEM IS
BROKEN, WHICH I THINK MOST OF US
WOULD SAY IT'S TRUE AND WE'RE
WILLING TO ROLL OUR SLEEVES UP
AND $2 MILLION IS OF SMALL PRICE
TO PAY. IF I I'M NOT OPTIMISTIC
THAT EVEN IF YOU CAME UP WITH
THE RIGHT PLAN THAT WE WOULD GET
THE LEGISLATURE TO ADAPT IT
BECAUSE IT WILL HAVE THE RIGHT
PLAN WILL HAVE A LOT OF
TREMENDOUS POLITICAL CONCERNS
RELATED TO IT BECAUSE PEOPLE
WON'T SEE IN THE LONG RUN. WE'RE
ALL GOING TO BE BETTER OFF.
THEY'LL SEE THE SHORT TERM, YOU
KNOW, CONSEQUENCES. BUT IF WE
DON'T AT LEAST MAKE IT SHOT AT
IT NOW WE WILL BE SITTING HERE
15 YEARS FROM NOW, AND THIS LINE
WILL STILL BE BROKEN AND WILL BE
WONDERING WHY WE'RE NOT ABLE TO
DO THINGS LIKE CANADA AND SOME
OF THE OTHER PLACES ARE OUT
THERE, SO I'LL LEAVE IT ON WHAT
I HOPE IS THAT UPBEAT NOTE AND
FIRED UP ABOUT THAT AND
APPRECIATE THE MEMBER'S ASKING
THEIR QUESTIONS, AND WE'RE GOING
TO GO ON TO ISSUE THREE, AND
THAT'S A CALIFORNIA UNIFIED
PROGRAM FOR ACCIDENTAL RELEASE
AND PREVENTION, RIGHT? OH, YES,
WE COULD TAKE ROLL AGAIN AND ADD
ASSEMBLY MEMBER. FOR ROLL,
FRIEDMAN. GOOD AND THEN WOULD
YOU LIKE TO ADD ON FOR THE
CONSENT CALENDAR? REMEMBER
FRIEDMAN. FRIEDMAN. THAT MEASURE
PASSES 50. OKAY, THANK YOU.
ALRIGHT IF THE ADMINISTRATION
WOULD LIKE TO START WITH ISSUE
THREE AND IDENTIFY YOURSELF AND
I'LL LET YOU GUYS FIGURE OUT
WHAT ORDER YOU WANT TO GO WITH.
GOOD MORNING, CHAIR AND
COMMITTEE MEMBERS, BRAIN AND
MERIT WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF
FINANCE THE CALIFORNIA UNIFIED
PROGRAM ACCIDENTAL RELEASE
PREVENTION, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS
KELLER AND HAZARDOUS MATERIALS,
BUSINESS PLAN AND BP PROGRAMS
SUPPORTING TRAILER BILL. UM
GOVERNOR'S BUDGET PROPOSAL
REQUEST 719,000 UNIFIED PROGRAM
ACCOUNT FUNDS ONGOING AND FOR
PERMANENT POSITIONS. THESE
POSITIONS WILL HELP PROVIDE
GREATER LEGAL AND REGULATORY
OVERSIGHT THAN THE CALI LEGAL
AND REGULATORY TEAMS HAVE
HISTORICALLY HAD THE RESOURCES
TO PROVIDE AND THOSE NEEDS HAVE
GROWN IN RECENT YEARS. WITH THAT
BRIEF INTRODUCTION, I WILL NOW
HAND IT OVER TO MY COLLEAGUES
WITH THE CALIFORNIA
ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY
TO PROVIDE FURTHER BACKGROUND ON
THIS PROPOSAL. THANK YOU. GOOD
MORNING CHAIR IN COMMUNITY
MEMBERS. MY NAME IS JASON BATES
SER, ASSISTANT SECRETARY WITH
CALLIE P A. AND WITH ME THIS
MORNING IS RACHEL AS WELL AS
WILLINGER, ASSISTANT GENERAL
COUNSEL FOR ENFORCEMENT. THANK
YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO
PRESENT AS BRANDON MENTIONED
CALLIE, PA. AND COORDINATION
WITH OTHER STATE AGENCIES IS
RESPONSIBLE FOR THE
IMPLEMENTATION. AND ENFORCEMENT
OF THE UNIFIED, UNIFIED
HAZARDOUS WASTE AND HAZARDOUS
MATERIAL REGULATORY MANAGEMENT
PROGRAMS, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS THE
UNIFIED PROGRAMS. THE UNIFIED
PROGRAMS, CONSOLIDATES
COORDINATES AND MAKES CONSISTENT
. THE ADMINISTRATION PERMITTING
INSPECTION AND ENFORCEMENT OF
SIX ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATORY
PROGRAMS. KELLY PH, OVERSEES THE
OVERARCHING UNIFIED PROGRAM
IMPLEMENTATION, WHICH LOCAL
CERTIFIED UNIFIED PROGRAM
AGENCIES IMPLEMENT WITHIN THEIR
JURISDICTION OTHERWISE KNOWN AS
KU PAS. IN CALI PH ALSO OVERSEAS
AS BRENDAN MENTIONED THE CAL,
CALIFORNIA ACCIDENTAL RELEASE
PREVENTION PROGRAM, AND THAT HAS
THIS MATERIAL BUSINESS PLAN
PROGRAM. THESE ARE THE PROGRAMS
THAT ARE SUBJECT OF THIS PCP ARE
CRITICAL TO PROTECTING PUBLIC
HEALTH, SAFETY AND THE
ENVIRONMENT AND THEIR
CENTERPIECE TO ROBUST, EQUITABLE
AND FORWARD LEANING IN FLORENCE
ENFORCEMENT AND COMPLIANCE,
ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATORY
PROGRAMS. CALLIE PAY HAS MANAGED
THE UNIFIED PROGRAMS SINCE 1997.
IN THAT TIME, THE UNIFIED
PROGRAM HAS MATURED INTO A
ROBUST PROGRAM WITH ESTABLISHED
STANDARDS AND FULLY INTEGRATED
ENVIRONMENTAL REPORTING SYSTEM
RAISING INCREASINGLY NUMEROUS
AND SOME COMPLEX ISSUES ALONG
THE WAY. AND JET AND JULY 1ST
2021. THE LEGISLATURE
TRANSFERRED STATE AUTHORITY OF
FOR THE HAZARDOUS MATERIAL
BUSINESS PLAN PROGRAM AND THE
CALIFORNIA ACCIDENTAL RELEASE
PREVENTION PROGRAM. PROGRAMS TO
KELLY P A AND TO GIVE A SENSE OF
THE SCALE OF THESE PROGRAMS.
CURRENTLY THERE ARE
APPROXIMATELY 140,000 REGULATED
BUSINESSES UNDER THE HAZARDOUS
MATERIAL BUSINESS PLAN PROGRAM
AND NEARLY 2500 BUSINESSES THAT
HANDLE HIGHLY TOXIC AND
FLAMMABLE REGULATED SUBSTANCES
THAT ARE REGULATED UNDER THE
COLOR PROGRAM. AND THESE ARE
HIGHEST RISK FACILITIES WITHIN
THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. KELLY
PH AS RISK QUESTION INSPECTION
FORCE MINT AUTHORITY FOR THE
HAZARDOUS MATERIAL BUSINESS PLAN
AND KELLER PROGRAMS FROM THE
TRAILER BILL AND STAFFING TO
IMPLEMENT THE NEW AUTHORITY FROM
THE BCP. COOPER'S IMPLEMENTING
FORCE AT THE LOCAL LEVEL, BUT IF
THEY FAIL TO EXECUTE THEIR
DUTIES OR NEED ASSISTANCE, THE
SECRETARY MUST HAVE SOME ABILITY
TO TASK AND AUTHORIZED STATE
AGENCY TO LEVERAGE RESOURCES TO
PROTECT PUBLIC HEALTH AND THE
ENVIRONMENT. SIMILARLY KELLY P,
A STATE WATER BOARD AND
DEPARTMENT OF TOXIC SUBSTANCE
CONTROL CURRENTLY HAVE SUCH
AUTHORITY FOR THE UNDERGROUND
STORAGE TANK PROGRAM. AND THAT
HAS ITS WASTE GENERATED PROGRAM,
WHICH ARE OTHER TO OTHER
PROGRAMS THAT FALL UNDER THE
UNIFIED PROGRAM. THE REQUESTED
POSITIONS WILL HELP KELLY PH
MANAGED THE GREATER LEGAL AND
REGULATORY NEEDS FOR ALL THREE
PROGRAMS AND IMPLEMENT THEM IN A
MANNER THAT IS SUFFICIENT.
EFFECTIVE AND EQUITABLE. THE
ADDITION OF THESE POSITIONS WILL
ENSURE BASIC ELEMENTS OF A
PROACTIVE STATE ENVIRONMENTAL
INSPECTION ENFORCEMENT PROGRAMS
TO PROMOTE STRONG LOCAL ACTION
THROUGH WORK SHARING, RESOURCE
UTILIZATION AND EFFECTIVE
OVERSIGHT, ENABLING CALLI PH TO
FURTHER PROTECT CALIFORNIA
RESIDENTS AND ITS NATURAL
RESOURCES. THE ADDITIONAL
RESOURCES WILL ALSO ALLOW
CALIFORNIA TO FURTHER PROMOTE
ENHANCED CONSISTENT STATEWIDE
IMPLEMENTATION OF THE UNIFIED
PROGRAM AND ESPECIALLY FOCUS IN
DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES. AND
THE THESE ADDITIONAL AUTHORITY
WILL BENEFIT ALL AFFECTED
BUSINESSES IN CALIFORNIA BY
PROVIDING AND LEVEL PLAYING
FIELD AND WILL BENEFIT ALL
CALIFORNIA'S THROUGH EQUAL
APPLICATION ENVIRONMENTAL
PROTECTION. AND AGAIN FURTHER
SUPPORTING OUR LOCAL CERTIFIED
UNIFIED PROGRAM AGENCIES. AND
THAT'S OUR PRESENTATION, AND
I'LL PAUSE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU AND LET'S RACHEL YOU
HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD NOTHING
ELSE FROM THE ADMINISTRATION,
RIGHT? ANYTHING FROM L A. L
BEFORE WE RETURN TO THE MEMBER'S
SARAH SARAH CONNECT WITH THE L
A. OH WE FIND THAT THE REQUEST
REASONABLE GIVING GIVEN GROWING
GROWING LEGAL NEED AND DON'T
DON'T HAVE FURTHER FURTHER
COMMENTS OR CONCERNS ON THIS
PROPOSAL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MEMBERS ANY QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS UM. OVERALL UH, IT'S
NICE TO HAVE AN ISSUE THAT IS
IMPORTANT ISSUE, BUT NOT ONE
THAT WE ALL HAVE LOTS OF
QUESTIONS TO DELAY THIS HEARING
ON AND STUFF, BUT KEEP UP THE
GOOD WORK. YOU HAVEN'T OBVIOUSLY
HUGELY IMPORTANT RESPONSIBILITY
WITH HAZARDOUS WASTE. AND QUITE
FRANKLY, I HOPE THAT HAZARDOUS
WASTE OF SOMETHING THAT ONE
CALORIE CYCLE COMES UP WITH
THEIR PLAN. WE HAVE BETTER
BETTER PLANNING FROM THE
BEGINNING IN TERMS OF HAZARDOUS
WASTE SO THAT WE HAVE FEWER
PROBLEMS AT THE END OF THE
PIPELINE WITH THAT ALSO SO THANK
YOU ALL VERY MUCH, AND WE'LL
MOVE ON TO ISSUE FOR THANK YOU.
AND WHAT HAVE THE ADMINISTRATION
DECIDE WHAT ORDER YOU'RE GOING
TO BEGIN IN AND INTRODUCE
YOURSELVES. ALRIGHT SORRY ABOUT
THE CHAIR, RIGHT? OKAY. SO CAN
YOU A SECOND HERE? AND GOOD
MORNING CHAIR BENNETT AND
MEMBERS. I'M MEREDITH WILLIAMS,
AND I'M, THE DIRECTOR OF THE
DEPARTMENT OF TOXIC SUBSTANCES
CONTROL AND WITH ME TODAY IS THE
CHIEF DEPUTY DIRECTOR FOR THE
DEPARTMENT. FRANCESCA NEGRI.
IT'S A PLEASURE TO HAVE THIS
OPPORTUNITY TO UPDATE YOU ON OUR
IMPLEMENTATION OF SB 1 58, WHICH
INCLUDED FUNDING FOR THE CLEANUP
AND VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES
INITIATIVE. AS WELL AS FUNDING
FOR THE EXIDE CLEANUP,
RESIDENTIAL CLEANUP. 2020 ONE'S
SB 1 58 WAS A COLLECTIVE EFFORT
TO BRING MORE TRANSPARENCY,
ACCOUNTABILITY AND FISCAL
STABILITY TO DTSC. THOSE CHANGES
BUILT ON DTS EFFORTS TO ADDRESS
LONGSTANDING DEPARTMENTAL
CHALLENGES. SINCE THE BILL'S
PASSAGE, DTSC HAS BEEN HARD AT
WORK, IMPLEMENTING CHANGES TO
ITS GOVERNANCE AND FEES
STRUCTURE AS CALLED FOR IN THE
BILL. A MAJOR PROVISIONS WAS THE
ESTABLISHMENT OF A FIVE MEMBER
BOARD OF ENVIRONMENTAL SAFETY.
THE BOARD BEGAN ITS WORK IN
MARCH OF 2022 IS PROVIDING A
FORUM FOR COMMUNITIES, ADVOCATES
AND THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY TO BE
HEARD. THE BOARD IS IN THE
PROCESS OF RULEMAKING ON ITS
PERMIT APPEALS PROCESS. WE'VE
WORKED COLLABORATIVELY WITH THIS
NEW BOARD TO ENSURE IT HAS THE
REEF SOURCES AND INFRASTRUCTURE
NECESSARY TO MEET ITS MISSION.
ANOTHER PROVISION OF SB 1 58
PROVIDES RESOURCES FOR
CALIFORNIA TO BEGIN TO
STRATEGIZE ABOUT THE FUTURE OF
HAZARDOUS WASTE IN THE STATE.
SOME OF THE ISSUES JUST RAISED
DURING THE CONSIDERATION OF
CALORIE CYCLES, CIRCULAR ECONOMY
AND ZERO WASTE. REQUESTS HAVE AN
INTERSECTION WITH THIS WORK. FOR
THE LAST YEAR, A TEAM OF DTSC
ENGINEERS AND SCIENTISTS HAS
BEEN DEDICATED TO THE RESEARCH
AND OUTREACH NECESSARY TO
DEVELOP A HAZARDOUS WASTE
MANAGEMENT PLAN BY 2025. THE
FIRST STEP IN DEVELOPING THE
PLAN IS TO COMPILE DATA AND
INFORMATION ABOUT HAZARDOUS
WASTE GENERATION IN THE STATE.
HAZARDOUS WASTE MANAGEMENT
REPORT. THE REPORT ESTABLISHES
THE FOUNDATION FOR BOARD POLICY
DISCUSSIONS TO INFORM THE FINAL
PLAN. DATA COMPILATION IS
COMPLETE, AND WE ARE SUBMITTING
THAT WE ANTICIPATE SUBMITTING
THE REPORT TO THE BOARD IN THE
COMING MONTHS. WE WILL ALSO HOLD
SEVERAL PUBLIC WORKSHOPS ON THE
REPORT AND WILL BRIEF THE
LEGISLATURE. IN THE MEANTIME,
DTSC S CURRENT APPROACH TO WASTE
MANAGEMENT HAS ALSO APPROVED
SINCE THE PASSAGE OF SB 1 58. WE
HAVE MADE SIGNIFICANT PROGRESS
ON REDUCING THE BACKLOG OF
CONTINUED PERMITS OVER THE LAST
TWO YEARS. DURING THAT TIME,
DTSC HAS ISSUED 33 FINAL PERMIT
DECISIONS. CONTINUED PERMITS.
OUR PERMITS OLD PERMITS UNDER
WHICH FACILITIES ARE ALLOWED TO
OPERATE UNTIL DTSC MAKES A
PERMIT DETERMINATION ON A PERMIT
APPLICATION. THE DEPARTMENT
SHARES COMMUNITIES DESIRES TO
HAVE UP TO DATE PERMITS IN PLACE
WITH THE MOST CURRENT PROTECTIVE
CONDITIONS ON A FACILITY'S
OPERATIONS. WE'RE NOW FOCUSED ON
THE LAST FEW OLDER AND ONCE MOST
COMPLEX PERMIT DECISIONS. THERE
ARE CURRENTLY SEVEN PERMIT JUST
PERMITS THAT HAVE BEEN CONTINUED
FOR MORE THAN FIVE YEARS, AND
WE'RE PLANNING ON ISSUING DRAFT
PERMIT DECISIONS ON THOSE BEFORE
THE END OF THE YEAR. OUR PERMITS
ARE STRONGER, MORE ENFORCEABLE
AND MORE PROTECTIVE THAN EVER.
AND INCLUDE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE
FINANCIAL ASSURANCE TO MAKE SURE
THAT SHOULD FACILITY CEASED
OPERATION. THE STATE ISN'T LEFT
ON THE HOOK AND COMMUNITIES
AREN'T LEFT UNPROTECTED.
ADDITIONAL X INSPECTION AND A
LEGAL RESOURCES AFFORDED BY DTS
SEES NEW FEE STRUCTURE HAVE
ALLOWED US TO FOCUS ENFORCEMENT
ACTION EFFORTS ON METAL
RECYCLERS AND SHREDDERS AS WELL
AS HAZARDOUS WASTE TRANSPORTERS
PRECISELY BECAUSE THEY OPERATE
WITHIN COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE A
DISPARATE BURDEN OF MULTIPLE
SOURCES OF POLLUTION. WE
PRIORITIZE WORK IN SUCH
COMMUNITIES BECAUSE THEY ARE IN
NEED OF OUR ATTENTION AND
RESOURCES. SB 1 58 APPROPRIATED
$500 MILLION FOR THE CLEANUP IN
VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES
INITIATIVE OR CBC, I FOR THE
STATE TO INVEST IN COMMUNITIES
DISPROPORTIONATELY AFFECTED BY
AND WITH ENVIRONMENTAL BURDENS.
WE ARE PRIORITIZING OUR CVC WORK
BY IDENTIFYING COMMUNITIES THAT
HAVE CALLEN VIRUS SCREEN SCORES
HIGHER THAN 75. SIGNIFICANT
POVERTY SCORES AND THOSE IN
RURAL AREAS WERE ALSO
COORDINATING WITH TRIBAL
GOVERNMENTS. BECAUSE THE CALEN
VIRUS SCREEN SCORES DON'T OFTEN
CAPTURE THEM IN THE
PRIORITIZATION PROCESS. THE CBC
I TEAM IS PARTNERING WITH
ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE
STAKEHOLDERS TO IMPROVE EQUITY
OUTCOMES ACROSS THE INITIATIVE.
ROUND ONE OF THE EQUITABLE
COMMUNITIES, REVITALIZATION
GRANT OR THE G PROGRAM RESULTED
IN MORE THAN $75 MILLION GRANTED
FOR LOCAL BROWNFIELDS PROJECTS
IN 31 CITIES. IN 15 DIFFERENT
COUNTIES OF THIS STATE. WE'RE
WORKING WITH 53 GRANTEES ON 84
SEPARATE PROJECTS SITES. AND 70
70% OF THOSE ARE IN THE MOST
COMPROMISED AREAS OF THE STATE.
AND USES FOR THIS FUNDING
INCLUDE PARKS, HOUSING COMMUNITY
SERVICES, SUCH AS SERVICES FOR
THE AND HOUSED SCHOOLS AND
COMMERCE, SUCH AS GROCERY STORES
IN FOOD DESERTS. THE AVERAGE
BUDGET FOR GRANT AWARDS WAS IN
ROUND ONE WAS $2.3 MILLION.
WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THESE FIRST
ROUND PROJECTS, BUT COMMUNITY
REPRESENTATIVES HAVE ADVOCATED
FOR MORE INVOLVEMENT IN THE
GRANT FRAMEWORK. TO THAT END, WE
CONSULTED WITH ENVIRONMENTAL
JUSTICE. STAKEHOLDERS TO UPDATE
APPLICATION GUIDELINES FOR ROUND
TWO GRANTS SO THAT THEY MORE
DIRECTLY ADDRESS STATED
COMMUNITY NEEDS AND PRIORITIES.
THE NEW GUIDANCE PLACES MORE
EMPHASIS ON COMMUNITY ACCEPTANCE
. WE WILL SHARE THIS NEW
GUIDANCE WITH POTENTIAL
APPLICANTS AND ENVIRONMENTAL
JUSTICE STAKEHOLDERS IN MAY.
AFTER THE CLOSE OF THAT FEEDBACK
PERIOD. THE SECOND GRANT CYCLE
WILL OPEN IN JULY, AND GRANTS
ARE EXPECTED TO BE DISPERSED IN
JANUARY OF 2024. THE BIGGEST
LESSON LEARNED IN ROUND ONE IS
THAT COMMUNITIES NEED DEEP AND
MEANINGFUL SUPPORT TO TAKE
ADVANTAGE OF THE G. RECYCLING
BROWNFIELDS FOR BENEFICIAL USES
IS A SLOW PROCESS AND REQUIRES
DEEP AND CONSISTENT INVESTMENT
FROM CLEAN UP TO BUILD UP. $7
MILLION GRANT CAP HAS NOT BEEN A
SIGNIFICANT BURDEN FOR E C. R G
THUS FAR. BECAUSE OF THE
SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS OF CBC. I
SUCH AS A VERY SHORT EXPENDITURE
TIMELINE, MANY SITES REALLY
AREN'T WELL SUITED FOR THESE
FUNDS. THE CAP WILL BE RAISED TO
$10 MILLION FOR ROUND TWO AND
THIS MAY LEAD TO MORE ELIGIBLE
APPLICATIONS WITH HIGHER DOLLAR
REQUESTS. HOWEVER THAT COULD
MEAN FEWER GRANT AWARDS. WHEREAS
THE GRANT PROGRAM IS FOCUSED ON
END USES SITE DISCOVERY AND
ORPHAN SITE FUNDING IS FOCUSED
ON REDUCING RISK. FOR THAT, FOR
EXAMPLE, AT MANY OF THESE SITES
WERE TRYING TO STOP VAPOR
INTRUSION OR DRINKING WATER
IMPACTS TO SURROUNDING
NEIGHBORHOODS. FUTURE USE OF AN
ORPHAN SITE WOULD BE CONSISTENT
WITH ITS PRIORITY USE. MOST OF
THESE SITES ARE OCCUPIED, WERE
OCCUPIED BY BUSINESSES AND WOULD
BE CLEANED TO COMMERCIAL
STANDARDS. THE GOAL IS TO REDUCE
EXPOSURE AND NOT NECESSARILY
CHANGE THE PROPERTY AND USE OF
THE 112 DRY CLEANERS PRIORITIZED
IN THE FIRST YEAR, 91 PHASE ONE
SITE ASSESSMENTS HAVE BEEN
COMPLETED AND APPROVED. THREE
SITES HAVE ACCESS AGREEMENTS AND
SIX WORK PLANS ARE UNDER GROWING
REVIEW TO ALLOW DISCOVERY
INVESTIGATIONS TO BEGIN. AND
TRIBAL NOTIFICATION LETTERS HAVE
BEEN SUBMITTED FOR 18 SITES AND
THREE TRIBES HAVE EXPRESSED
INTEREST IN FURTHER ENGAGEMENT
THUS FAR. THE PROGRAM EXPECTS TO
ADD ADDITIONAL SITES EVERY YEAR
FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS. CBC I
PROVIDED $40 MILLION TO EXPEDITE
A PATH TO CLEAN UP OF 21. ORPHAN
SITES IN GENERAL ORPHAN SITES
ARE PRIORITIZED BASED ON
EXPOSURE RISKS TO THE COMMUNITY.
THESE PARTICULAR SITES FOR CBC.
THESE ORPHAN SITES, HOWEVER,
WERE SELECTED BASED ON THE
LIKELIHOOD OF BEING SHOVEL
READY. THE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE
GRANTS, COMMUNITY BENEFIT
AGREEMENTS AND WORKFORCE
DEVELOPMENTS. WORKFORCE
DEVELOPMENT ELEMENTS OF CBC ARE
BEING PUT IN PLACE TO BUILD
CAPACITY IN THE COMMUNITIES WE
SERVE. ONE LAST AREA OF FUNDING
IN SP 1 58. WAS FOR AN
ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE ADVISORY
COMMITTEE. EGYPT WILL BE A
VEHICLE FOR DTSC TO HEAR FROM
COMMUNITY MEMBERS DIRECTLY
IMPACTED BY OUR WORK. DTSC AND
THE BOARD OF ENVIRONMENTAL
SAFETY ARE WORKING IN
COORDINATION ON A FRAMEWORK FOR
THIS EGYPT. THE FRAMEWORK WILL
BE WORKSHOPPED WITH INTERESTED
STAKEHOLDERS THIS SPRING.
TURNING TO THE EXIDE CLEANUP. SB
1 58 PROVIDED $291 MILLION IN
ADDITIONAL FUNDING OVER THREE
YEARS TO SUPPORT THE CLEANUP OF
RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES
SURROUNDING THE FORMER EXIDE
BATTERY RECYCLING FACILITY IN
EAST LOS ST LOS ANGELES. WE WILL
BRING YOU UP TO DATE ON UP TO
DATE ON OUR WORK THERE AND ALSO
RESPOND TO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS
THAT WERE RAISED IN THE LETTER
WE RECEIVED FROM YOU YESTERDAY.
YOU'RE AWARE THAT A STUDY IS
BEING CONDUCTED BY USC,
OCCIDENTAL COLLEGE AND EAST YARD
COMMUNITIES FOR ENVIRONMENTAL
JUSTICE IN THE AREA SURROUNDING
THE EXIDE FACILITY. DTSC
APPRECIATES COMMUNITY LED
SCIENCE AND WANTS TO WORK
COLLABORATIVELY TO PROTECT THE
SURROUNDING COMMUNITY. UNTIL
THIS STUDY IS PUBLISHED. THE
FULL STUDY, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR
US TO VERIFY THE DATA METHODS
AND STUDY DETAILS LIKE SAMPLING
LOCATIONS AS NECESSARY TO FULLY
VALIDATE THE RESULTS AND
REPLICATE THE STUDY. SINCE WE DO
NOT HAVE THOSE DATA DTSC IS
WORKING WITH EXPERTS AND
STAKEHOLDERS TO IDENTIFY
ALTERNATIVE APPROACHES TO
DETERMINING WHETHER OR NOT THERE
ARE UNEXPECTEDLY HIGH LEVELS OF
CONTAMINATION LEFT ON PROPERTIES
THAT WE HAVE REMEDIATED. WHAT
HAS BEEN MADE ABUNDANTLY CLEAR
OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS IS
THAT WE NEED TO APPROVE IMPROVE
THE QUALITY OF THE INFORMATION
WE PROVIDE ABOUT HOW PROPERTIES
ARE CLEANED. HOW RESIDENTS ARE
HOME OWNERS ENGAGE WITH US ON
THE PROJECT OR HOW WE CAN BETTER
INCORPORATE COMMUNITY INPUT INTO
OUR DECISION MAKING. WE ARE
COMMITTED TO THAT WORK AND HAVE
LED TO PUBLIC MEETINGS IN RECENT
MONTHS AND WILL HOST US A SECOND
OR A THIRD TOMORROW IN MAYWOOD.
WE'VE DONE A LOT OF LISTENING TO
MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND
COMMUNITY CONCERNS AND
EXPERIENCES AND WE'VE MADE OUR
EXECUTIVE TEAM AND PROJECT
EXPERTS AVAILABLE FOR
CONVERSATIONS WITH RESIDENTS,
COMMUNITY BASED ORGANIZATIONS,
WORKERS AND UNION
REPRESENTATIVES. WE INTEND TO
CONTINUE TO BE IN THE COMMUNITY
AND TO WORK WITH YOU, YOUR
TEAM'S LOCAL ELECTED OFFICIALS
AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO
DETERMINE THE BEST METHODS TO
ENGAGING WITH IMPACTED
RESIDENTS. WE ALSO SUSPENDED A
RECENT BID PROCESS FOR A NEW
CLEANUP CONTRACT SO THAT WE CAN
INCORPORATE COMMUNITY INPUT ON
CONTRACTOR SELECTION. THE GOAL
IS TO RELEASE A NEW SOLICITATION
IN MAY. WE ARE MAKING THESE
CHANGES IN OUR ENGAGEMENT
APPROACH. WELL, CONTINUING THE
CLEANUP. AND AS OF APRIL 7TH
4554 PROPERTIES HAVE BEEN
COMPLETED. SPEAKING TO THE
PARKWAY'S. THE 2018 PART
PARKWAYS AUTHORIZATION TOTALED
6.86 POINT $5 MILLION DTSC USED
$2.9 MILLION OF THAT TO
SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETE THE FIRST
PHASE, WHICH WAS TO INVESTIGATE
APPROXIMATELY 8000 PROPERTY OR
PARKWAY PARCELS. ALTHOUGH WE
DIDN'T FULLY EXPEND THAT
APPROPRIATION WORK HAS BEEN
ONGOING IN THE PARKWAY'S WE
WORKED, COMPLETE SAMPLING AND
UNDERSTAND THE FROM THE IMPACT
OF COMMUNITIES HOW THEY USE
THESE PARKWAYS. THE DATA HAVE
BEEN ANALYZED AND A HEALTH RISK
ASSESSMENT WAS DEVELOPED BASED
ON THAT COMMUNITY INPUT. THE
FINAL HEALTH RISK ASSESSMENT WAS
COMPLETED LAST JUNE WITH THE
RECOMMENDED CLEANUP STANDARD OF
80 PARTS PER MILLION FOR LEAD.
BASED ON THE ASSESSMENT. WE
FORECAST THAT PARKWAYS CLEANUP
WOULD COST APPROXIMATELY $70
MILLION AN AMOUNT FAR EXCEEDING
THE REMAINING $3.6 MILLION THAT
WAS AVAILABLE THROUGH THE
INITIAL APPROPRIATION. THAT $3.6
MILLION REVERTED THROUGH THE MAY
REVISION PROCESS FOR THE FISCAL
YEAR 2020 2021 BUDGET AS THE
STATE WORKED TO CLOSE THE $54
BILLION BUDGET DEFICIT RESULTING
FROM COVID PER YEAR. RECENT
QUESTION ANTICIPATED REVENUE TO
THE LEAD ACID BATTERY CLEANUP
FUND FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS IS
ROUGHLY $40 MILLION ANNUALLY
WITH AN ANNUAL BASELINE
OPERATIONS OF $14 MILLION. THIS
CAN BE A POSSIBLE FUNDING SOURCE
FOR THE CLEANUP OF PARKWAYS AND
WOULD ALLOW THE PARKWAYS CLEANUP
TO BE DONE ALONGSIDE THE
RESIDENTIAL CLEANUP EFFORTS
WITHOUT IMPACTING OTHER
OPERATIONS. DTSC WILL CONTINUE
TO WORK ALONGSIDE GOVERNOR
NEWSOM, THE DEPARTMENT OF
FINANCE AND YOU AND YOUR
COLLEAGUES. IN THE LEGISLATURE
TO IDENTIFY POTENTIAL FUNDING
SOURCES AND TO ADDRESS THE
PARKWAYS CLEANUP. ONE LAST NOTE
ON EXIDE. THE CONTINUED URGENCY
AROUND THE CLEANUP IS WHY DTSC
AND CALI P A. REQUESTED THAT THE
EXIDE RESIDENTIAL AND FACILITY
CLEANUPS BE LISTED ON THE
NATIONAL PRIORITIES LIST, WHICH
WOULD DESIGNATE THOSE AREAS AS A
SUPERFUND SITE. WE'RE WORKING
CLOSELY WITH U. S. C. P A TO
PROVIDE ALL NECESSARY DATA FOR
THEIR ASSESSMENT. WE EXPECT
THEIR DECISION TO COME IN 2025.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. TODAY
I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY
HAVE. AND THEN SHOT. THANK YOU.
I GOT PROMOTED. UH THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. UH SO I
HAVE QUESTIONS RELATED TO EXIDE
. UM YOU KNOW ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
WENDY CARILLO, UM, WAS INVITED
TO BE PART OF THIS HEARING, AND
SHE'S CURRENTLY IN ANOTHER, UM,
HEARING RIGHT NOW, AND SHE ASKED
ME TO BRING UP SOME QUESTIONS.
SHE WAS SHE'S FROM LOS ANGELES
REPRESENTS A LOT OF THE AREA
AFFECTED BY EXCITED AND YOU KNOW
, I ALSO CARE ABOUT THIS, BUT
I'M ASKING THESE QUESTIONS ON
HER BEHALF. AH YOU KNOW, IT WAS
BROUGHT TO ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S, UH
, WENDY CREOLES ATTENTION THAT
WHILE DTSC HAS BEEN RESPONSIBLE
AND REMOVING SOIL CONTAMINATED
BY THE EXIDE BATTERY PLANT AND
OTHER CONTAMINATED AREAS THAT
THIS CONTAMINATED SOIL WAS THEN
TAKEN OUT OF STATE AND DUMPED IN
OTHER STATES WITH LESS
RESTRICTIONS, MANY OF THAT SOIL
DUMP NEAR NATIVE AMERICAN
RESERVATIONS. HOW CAN DTSC BE
THE STATE'S WATCHDOG AND THEN IN
TURN, CONTAMINATE OTHER
VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES? IN OTHER
STATES. AND HOW ARE YOU TAKING
RESPONSIBILITY AND
ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THIS. THAT'S
A BIG QUESTION THAT THE STATE
NEEDS TO FACE AS A WHOLE. DTSC
IS NOT ALONE IN TRANSPORTING
HAZARDOUS WASTE THAT'S GENERATED
OUT OF STATE. UM, TYPICALLY,
THERE IS A KIND OF A NATIONAL
NETWORK OF HOW WE MANAGE
HAZARDOUS WASTE. THEY'RE NOT
THERE. FOR INSTANCE, THERE
AREN'T INCIDENTS IN AERATORS IN
EVERY STATE, AND SO THERE'S AN
EXPECTATION THAT SOME WASTE WILL
MOVE AROUND THE COUNTRY THAT
SAID, OF COURSE WE ARE CONCERNED
ABOUT IMPACTS TO OTHER
VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES, NOT JUST
COMMUNITIES IN CALIFORNIA. AND
TO THAT END OF RETURN BACK TO MY
COMMENTS ON THE HAZARDOUS WASTE
MANAGEMENT REPORT IN THE
HAZARDOUS WASTE MANAGEMENT PLAN.
THE OBJECTIVE OF THAT PLAN IS TO
TAKE A HOLISTIC WORK VIEW OF
WHERE WASTE IS BEING GENERATED
WHERE IT'S BEING DISPOSED OF.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT DOES WHAT ARE
THE INCENTIVES AND DISINCENTIVES
FOR MANAGING THAT WASTE WITHIN
THE STATE VERSUS EXPORTING TO
THE STATE? THERE ARE ECONOMIC
CONSIDERATIONS THAT GO INTO
WHERE THE STATE IS DISPOSED OF.
SPECIFICALLY FOR EXIDE. I WILL
SAY THAT ONE OF THE BIGGEST
CONCERNS FOR US WAS THE SENSE OF
URGENCY TO KEEP THIS CLEAN UP
MOVING AND IN ORDER TO DO THAT
WE WANTED TO HAVE ABSOLUTE
CERTAINTY THAT THERE WOULD BE
CAPACITY TO MANAGE ART TO
DISPOSE OF THE WASTE ON A DAY IN
DAY OUT BASIS. ALTHOUGH ON PAPER
THERE IS CAPACITY IN THE
HAZARDOUS WASTE LANDFILLS IN THE
STATE. THAT THOSE HAZARDOUS
WASTE LANDFILLS HAVE THE ABILITY
TO DECLINE TO ACCEPT WASTE. WE
WANTED A CERTAINTY. AND SO THAT
WAS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION. AS
WE IDENTIFIED LOCATIONS TO
DISPOSE OF THE WASTE. BUT AS I
SAY THIS IS AN ONGOING
CONVERSATION THAT NEEDS TO
HAPPEN AT A LARGER SCALE. WELL,
I KNOW MY COLLEAGUES THAT
REPRESENT THE AREAS AFFECTED BY
EXIDE, YOU KNOW, HAVE BEEN VERY
ACTIVE AND HAVE URGED OR, LIKE
THE SENSE OF URGENCY THAT YOU
SAID. I KNOW IT'S BECAUSE OF
THEIR WORK AND ADVOCACY, UM, AND
PRESSURE THAT THEY HAVE APPLIED
, UM TO YOUR DEPARTMENT, BUT YOU
KNOW, I'M CONCERNED NOW THAT
THIS HAZARDOUS WASTE IS NOW
BEING TRANSPORTED AND AFFECTING
NOW ANOTHER VULNERABLE COMMUNITY
. UM EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT IN OUR
STATE, YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD. TO
IMAGINE THAT WE'RE NOW DOING
THIS TO ANOTHER VULNERABLE
COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, AND
POTENTIALLY HARMING THEM. I AND
I MEAN, I THINK WE REALLY NEED
TO THINK ABOUT UM THESE THINGS
BEFORE THEY MAKE THE NEWS OR
BEFORE YOU KNOW, THE LEGISLATOR
. LEGISLATORS ARE ALERTED, RIGHT
? WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT AS
CALIFORNIA AND WE SHOULDN'T BE
DOING THAT. UM AND I REALLY HOPE
THAT YOU KNOW THE STATE TAKES
THIS SERIOUSLY, ESPECIALLY YOU
KNOW, WITH THE EXIDE THE
HAZARDOUS WASTE FROM EXIDE,
WHICH YOU KNOW, HAS MADE
NATIONAL NEWS BECAUSE OF THE
HARM IT HAS DONE TO OUR
COMMUNITIES IN LOS ANGELES, BUT
I KNOW NONE OF US WANT THAN TO
HARM ANOTHER COMMUNITY. UH AND
SO HOW? HOW DOES HOW DO THOSE
DECISIONS GET MADE OF WHERE YOU
KNOW? I MEAN, HOW ARE WE
SELECTING THESE LOCATIONS
WITHOUT TAKING INTO
CONSIDERATION WHERE THEY'RE
LOCATED AND HOW CLOSE TO A
VULNERABLE COMMUNITY THEY ARE.
EVEN THOUGH YOU KNOW THESE
LOCATIONS ARE OUT OF STATE. I
KNOW THAT WE DON'T REGULATE
THEM. BUT WE ARE SELECTING WHERE
THIS WASTE IS GOING TO WRITE.
WE'RE TAKING IT TO THERE. SO HOW
HOW AS HOW CAN WE EVALUATE THOSE
LOCATIONS? UM AND MAKE THOSE
DECISIONS ON WHERE OR WHERE NOT
TO TAKE THIS WASTE. YOU DO YOU
WANT TO ADD SOMETHING I JUST
WANTED TO SAY, I THINK, UM, AND
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SUPPORTING
THE DEPARTMENT'S EFFORT IN
CREATING THIS STATEWIDE
HAZARDOUS WASTE MANAGEMENT PLAN
. I THINK YOU RAISED SOME REALLY
IMPORTANT IN CRITICAL POLICY
ISSUES, YOU KNOW, NEARLY 50% OF
THE WASTE HAZARDOUS WASTE
GENERATED IN CALIFORNIA, SOME OF
WHICH IS CLASSIFIED AS HAZARDOUS
IN CALIFORNIA, BUT NOT
CLASSIFIED AS HAZARDOUS OUTSIDE
OF CALIFORNIA. IS DEPOSITED OUT
OF STATE, AND IT'S DONE SO
BECAUSE OF THAT HISTORIC REVIEW
OF NATIONAL CAPACITY VERSUS
STATE CAPACITY, SO THIS FOCUS
THAT YOU'VE SUPPORTED IS GOING
TO ENABLE US TO RAISE THESE
POLICY ISSUES ABOUT YOU KNOW,
HOW DO WE? HOW DOES THE STATE
DISPOSE OF HAZARDOUS WASTE? WE
SHARE YOUR CONCERN ABOUT
ENSURING THAT WE DISPOSE OF OUR
HAZARDOUS WASTE IN STATE AND WE
MANAGE IT. APPROPRIATELY AND
RESPONSIBLY AND THE SUPPORT FOR
THIS EFFORT WILL HELP. UM
IDENTIFY WHERE SPECIFICALLY
WASTE IS BEING DEPOSITED AND
HELPED TO MAKE THOSE POLICY
DECISIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW,
MANAGING IN STATE AND EVEN LOOK
AT IT IN STATE CAPACITY FOR
DISPOSAL OF ALL OF ITS HAZARDOUS
WASTE. BUT ARE YOU GONNA GOING
TO HAVE LIKE A LIKE A SET OF
CRITERIA ON ON HOW TO DECIDE
WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE IT TO
THIS LOCATION BECAUSE IT DOESN'T
MEET OUR OWN, UM, CRITERIA AS
ART AS A STATE EVEN THOUGH
ANOTHER STATE MAY DECIDE OF THAT
THEY MAY NOT. UM PRIORITIZE, I
GUESS, UH, YOU KNOW THEY'RE
THOSE LOCATIONS AFFECTING
VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES. BUT I
THINK WE SHOULD, AND WE SHOULD.
YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE CAN'T DO
ANYTHING ABOUT WHERE THEY YOU
KNOW THOSE LOCATIONS ARE IN
THOSE STATES, BUT WE COULD MAKE
DECISIONS WERE NOT GOING TO UM,
YOU KNOW, TAKE ARE HAZARDOUS
WASTE THERE. ABSOLUTELY THAT'S A
GREAT QUESTION, AND WE'RE
LOOKING FORWARD TO BRINGING THE
REPORT TO, UM WHICH IS YOU KNOW
IS THE COMPILATION OF ALL THE
DATA OF WHERE WASTE IS BEING
GENERATED AND DISPOSED OF NOW
AND HAVING THE CONVERSATIONS
WITH THE NEWLY APPOINTED BOARD
OF ENVIRONMENTAL STATE D, WHO'S
PART OF WHOSE CHARGE IT IS TO
HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT,
YOU KNOW, WHAT DO WE INCLUDE IN
THE HAZARDOUS WASTE MANAGEMENT
PLAN, INCLUDING THOSE POLICIES,
DECISIONS ABOUT WHERE WE DEPOSIT
HAZARDOUS WASTE? AND DECIDING IF
WE NEED TO HAVE A STRUCTURE AND
A PROCESS TO DO EXACTLY WHAT
YOU'RE SAYING, WHICH IS TO
ASSESS FACILITIES THAT AREN'T IN
THE STATE, AND MAYBE HAVE
DIFFERENT CRITERIA WERE ALSO
CHARGED WITH ONE OF THE OTHER
THINGS THAT CAME THROUGH THE
REFORM IS WILL BE LOOKING AT
HAZARDOUS WASTE CLASSIFICATION
AND THE BROADER PICTURE TO
REALLY UNDERSTAND. HOW THESE
DECISIONS ARE BEING MADE.
WHETHER OR NOT THERE IS AN
OPPORTUNITY TO ADD MORE
CONSIDERATIONS INTO THOSE
DECISIONS. OKAY? I THINK SEVERAL
OF US WILL BE LOOKING FORWARD
AND FOLLOWING UP WITH YOU TO
MAKE SURE THAT THAT DOES HAPPEN
. THANK YOU. YEAH REALLY GOOD
LINE OF QUESTIONING BY MY
COLLEAGUE IN A SIMILAR VEIN ON
ON BROWNFIELDS MORE GENERALLY.
IF YOU COULD TALK A LITTLE BIT
ABOUT HOW ARE YOU PRIORITIZING
WHICH PROPERTIES TO RA MEDIATE
IN THAT REGARD? SO UM,
BROWNFIELDS IN PARTICULAR, UM A
LOT OF TIMES IT'S BROWNFIELDS
ARE VOLUNTARY CLEANUPS. AND SO
THOSE COME AT THE YOU KNOW,
BASED ON FLOW BASIS OF WHO IS
INTERESTED AND REMEDIATING A
FACILITY IN ORDER TO PUT THAT
ARE AN AREA IN ORDER TO PUT THAT
LAND INTO BETTER ACTIVE USE. AND
SO. IT'S ALL A QUESTION OF WHAT
COMES IN. HOW THAT WORKS. HOW
THAT WORKS. HOWEVER THERE ARE
ALSO ORPHAN SITES. THAT DON'T
HAVE AN OLD AND I WANTED TO
BRING THAT UP, PARTICULARLY THIS
ONE TIME FUNDING FOR THE CLEANUP
AND VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES
INITIATIVE. FOR SOME BROWNFIELDS
WORK. AND FOR SOME REASON,
BROWNFIELD REMEDIATION. AND SO
EACH OF THOSE WE LOOK AT A
SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT LENS AS WE DO
THE PRIORITIZATION. WHEN WE DO
OUR ANNUAL SITE REMEDIATION
ASSESSMENT FOR THE SITE
REMEDIATION ACCOUNT AND THE
ORPHAN SITES THAT ARE FUNDED
THROUGH OUR TOXIC SUBSTANCES
CONTROL ACCOUNT. WE LOOK AT
TRULY THE EMERGENCE OF HOW
EMERGENT THE POTENTIAL EXPOSURE
IS. WE CATEGORIZE. GET SITES IN
DIFFERENT TIERS IN THE TOP TIER
INCLUDES THOSE SITES FOR WHICH
EPA IS THE PRIMARY RESPONSIBLE
OVERSIGHT AGENCY FOR THE CLEANUP
, AND WE HAVE OBLIGATIONS TO
SUPPORT THE OPERATIONS AND
MAINTENANCE ONCE THE CLEANUP IS
DONE. THERE ARE AND THEN AS WE
GO THROUGH THOSE DIFFERENT
CATEGORIES WE LOOK AT HOW HOW
LIKELY OR WHAT'S THE RISK
ASSOCIATED WITH THE RELEASES THE
KNOWN RELEASES OF CHEMICALS
FORGIVEN OVERSIGHT. WE NEVER
HAVE HAD ENOUGH MONEY TO TAKE
CARE OF NO RELEASES OF TOXIC
CHEMICALS AND SO TO BE QUITE
FRANK, WE'RE DOING WE'RE YOU
KNOW, WE'RE MAKING SOME TOUGH
DECISIONS BASED ON SITE
READINESS POTENTIAL FOR
EXPOSURE. FUNDING JUST TRYING TO
OPTIMIZE THE FUNDING ACROSS
MULTIPLE DIMENSIONS IN ORDER TO
KEEP THOSE CLEANUPS THOSE ORPHAN
SITE CLEANUPS MOVING THERE ARE
OTHER WAYS TO PRIORITIZE BASED
ON VULNERABILITY, COMMUNITY
VULNERABILITY. UM, THAT AND WE
AS WE'VE BEEN HAVING
CONVERSATIONS INTERNALLY ABOUT
HOW TO TAKE THOSE THINGS INTO
ACCOUNT MORE EXPLICITLY, BUT
HISTORICALLY FOR THE ORPHAN
SITES, IT'S REALLY ABOUT HOW
IMMEDIATE IS THE POTENTIAL RISK.
OF EXPOSURE. AS I SAID IN T V C,
I WE THERE? WE DID TAKE ON SOME
ORPHAN SITES, AND THOSE WERE
PRIORITIZED BASED ON KIND OF
SHOVEL READINESS. AND HOW
QUICKLY BECAUSE THE TIME FRAME
FOR THOSE EXPENDITURES WAS QUITE
SHORT. WE REALLY FOCUSED ON THE
ONES THAT WERE REALLY READY TO
MOVE. WHAT'S A TYPICAL AND USE
OF THOSE SIDES. OH LARGELY
COMMERCIAL FOR ORPHAN SITES.
THEY WERE IN COMMERCIAL
LOCATIONS. THEY TEND TO B. IN
THE END, SO THAT THAT TENDS TO
BE WHERE WHERE THOSE SITES END
UP. BROWNFIELDS. WRIT LARGE.
THERE'S QUITE A RANGE OF
HOUSING. ALL SORTS OF. YOU KNOW,
OPEN SPACE. ANYTHING ELSE?
DIRECTOR WILLIAMS. I JUST WANT
TO COMPLIMENT YOU AND THANK YOU
FOR WE SENT A LETTER TO YOU
YESTERDAY. AND I THINK YOU
PROBABLY HAD A LATE NIGHT LAST
NIGHT BECAUSE YOU COMPLETELY
RESPONDED TO IT ALL TODAY AND
YOUR COMMENTS, SO WE REALLY
APPRECIATE THE PROPER RESPONSE
THERE. THANK YOU FOR THE LETTER,
AND WE WILL FOLLOW UP AND
WRITING AND IT'S NOT ME. IT'S
THE TEAM. IT'S A GREAT TEAM.
YEAH AND YOU HAVE YOU HAVE A
HUGELY IMPORTANT RESPONSIBILITY.
JUST TO THE PEOPLE OF CALIFORNIA
AND WE RECOGNIZE THAT AND THANK
YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR
PROFESSIONALISM AND DEDICATION
TO TRYING TO GET THIS PROBLEM
SOLVED. RIGHT? WE WILL NOW GO ON
TO ISSUE ITEM. 45 THANK YOU.
THANK YOU APPRECIATE IT.
EVERYONE. I'M SORRY. WE DIDN'T
HAVE AN L. A REPORT ON THIS
CORRECT. YEAH, EXACTLY RIGHT.
THE ADMINISTRATION DECIDES WHO'S
GOING TO BEGIN AND INTRODUCE
YOURSELF, PLEASE. GOOD MORNING
SHARE. BENNETT AND MEMBERS
BRANDON MERIT WITH THE
DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE THE
EXPANDING MOBILE AIR MONITORING
AND COMMUNITIES. APRIL ONE
SPRING FINANCE LETTER PROPOSES
TO PROVIDE FOR LIMITED TERM
POSITIONS OVER FOUR YEARS
$750,000 ANNUALLY BY REVERTING
AND REALLOCATING $3 MILLION OF
GREENHOUSE GAS REDUCTION FUND
FROM AN APPROPRIATION APPROVED
IN THE 2022 BUDGET ACT. THESE
POSITIONS WOULD ADMINISTER AND
SUPPORT TECHNICAL AND COMMUNITY
ENGAGEMENT DELIVERABLES FOR THE
DURATION OF THE MOBILE AIR
MONITORING CONTRACT TWO YEARS
PLUS TWO ADDITIONAL YEARS FOR
FOUR YEARS TOTAL. THAT BRIEF
INTRODUCTION. I WILL NOW TURN IT
OVER TO MY COLLEAGUES AT CARB
FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION. GOOD
MORNING. THANK YOU. CHAIR BED.
IT REMEMBERS. MY NAME IS WALTER
HAM. I'M CHIEF OF THE MONITORING
AND LABORATORY DIVISION AT CARB.
I'M JOINED TODAY BY MIKE MIGUEL,
WHO IS OUR ASSISTANT DIVISION
CHIEF. I'M GOING TO DISCUSS A
REQUEST TO REVERT THREE MILLION
FROM A 2022 2023 APPROPRIATION
AND USE THE REVERTED FUNDS TO
FUND FOR YEAR LIMITED TERM
APPROPRIATION. CARBON REQUESTING
TO REWORK $3 MILLION FROM THE
GREENHOUSE GAS REDUCTION FUND TO
FUND THESE FOUR LIMITED TERM
POSITIONS. THIS REPRESENTS A
FOUR YEAR APPROPRIATION, LIMITED
TERM APPROPRIATION OF $750,000
PER YEAR TO SUPPORT THE
STATEWIDE MOBILE AIR MONITORING
INITIATIVE. THE FOUR LIMITED
TERM POSITIONS WILL PROVIDE
TECHNICAL AIR MONITORING AND
COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT SERVICES TO
SUPPORT THE CONTRACT THAT
DEPLOYMENT OF MOBILE AIR
MONITORING AND COMMUNITIES
THROUGHOUT THE STATE. TO
ASSOCIATE GOVERNMENTAL PROGRAM.
ANALYSTS WILL OVERSEE CONTRACT
ADMINISTRATION SUPPORT COMMUNITY
ENGAGEMENT AND COORDINATE
ACTIVITIES WITH LOCAL AIR
DISTRICTS AND COMMUNITY BASED
ORGANIZATIONS. THE TWO STAFF.
AIR POLLUTION SPECIALISTS WILL
FOCUS ON TECHNICAL AIR
MONITORING COMPONENTS OF THIS
CONTRACT THAT REQUIRE MORE IN
DEPTH KNOWLEDGE OF MOBILE AIR
MONITORING METHODS, DATA
MANAGEMENT, DATA ANALYSIS AND
VISUALIZATION. THIS PROPOSAL
PROVIDES LIMITED TERM STAFF
RESOURCES RESOURCES NEEDED TO
OVERSEE AND MANAGE THIS
INITIATIVE, WHICH DID NOT
RECEIVE ADMINISTRATIVE FUNDS IN
THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL. THIS
MOBILE AIR MODERN PROGRAM
SUPPORTS CARBS LARGER A B 6 17
GOALS BY PROVIDING A SNAPSHOT OF
CRITERIA, TOXIC AIR CONTAMINANTS
AND GREENHOUSE GAS
CONCENTRATIONS IN COMMUNITIES
ACROSS THE STATE. IT ALSO
SUPPORTS AH CARBS, LARGER GOAL
OF EXPANDING BENEFITS TO
COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE NOT YET
BEEN SELECTED FOR A B 6 17,
INCLUDING 65 COMMUNITIES THAT
HAVE BEEN CONSISTENTLY
NOMINATED. APPROVING THIS
PROPOSAL WILL ENSURE CARBONS
NECESSARY RESOURCES TO OVERSEE
THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE
PROGRAM. ENSURE COMMUNITY
STAKEHOLDER INPUT IS INCLUDED
THROUGHOUT THE DURATION OF THE
CONTRACT PERIOD. THANK YOU AND
BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS
AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME. ORDERED
BY A CHAIR. I'M SORRY I WAS
TALKING THERE. DID YOU JUST
FINISH. OKAY. GREAT THANK YOU.
UM SO WE FIND THIS. THIS REQUEST
ITSELF TO BE MOSTLY REASONABLE.
IT'S NOT ASKING FOR A NEW
RESOURCES, THE LEGISLATURE COULD
CONSIDER REQUIRING SOME
PRIORITIZATION OF CERTAIN
COMMUNITIES AS THE EXISTING
PROGRAM THAT THAT WOULD ALL BE
DETERMINED BY BY THE CONTRACTOR.
AND ALTHOUGH YOU DID APPROVE THE
30 MILLION TO SUPPORT THIS
PROGRAM AND AN APPROPRIATION
LAST YEAR, GIVEN THE BUDGET
CONDITION YOU MAY WANT TO
CONSIDER, UM REVERTING THAT THAT
FUNDING BACK TO G R F AS IT
DOESN'T APPEAR AS IF THE
ADMINISTRATION HAS EXPENDED ANY
ANY OF THAT 30 MILLION YET, UM,
THIS WOULD ALSO BE A NEW PROGRAM
AND WE DO HAVE AN AN EXISTING
PROGRAM. THAT ADDRESSES
COMMUNITY AIR PROTECTION. THE A
B 6 17 PROGRAM. UM SHOULD YOU BE
INTERESTED IN REVERTING THAT THE
30 MILLION THAT FUNDED THIS NEW
MOBILE AIR MONITORING PROGRAM
BACK TO G R F. YOU COULD USE
THAT 30 MILLION FOR HIGHER
PRIORITY ACTIVITIES OR BACKFILL.
THE REDUCTION PROPOSED TO THE A
B 6 17 PROGRAM, WHICH IS
PROPOSED FOR A 50 MILLION
REDUCTION AND RESOURCES FOR THAT
PROGRAM HAVE BEEN STRETCHED MORE
THINLY. IN RECENT YEARS AS
COMMUNITIES MORE COMMUNITIES
HAVE BEEN ADDED. SO, UM WE JUST
THINK THIS THIS COULD BE AN
OPTION WORTH WORTH. CONSIDERING
IF YOU FEEL THAT THIS PROGRAM IS
NO LONGER A HIGH PRIORITY
CERTAINLY APPRECIATE ALEJO'S
ANALYSIS AND OPTIONS HERE. I
HAVE QUESTIONS HERE, BUT
MEMBERS, I'LL LET YOU JUST
MEMBERS HAVE ALL RIGHT. GO AHEAD
. I THINK I'LL GO AHEAD AND
START THAT AND THINGS THAT ARE
IMPORTANT FOR US, AND, UM,
BUDGET SUBJECT THREE STAFF TO
KNOW HOW OUR COMMUNITIES BE
SELECTED FOR MONITORING AND
TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE. YES IT'S A
GOOD QUESTION. THANK YOU FOR
THAT. SO AS PART OF OUR
CONTRACT, WE ARE LOOKING TO
CONDUCT SOME STAKEHOLDER
ENGAGEMENT. UM WITH A NUMBER OF
CBOS COMMUNITY BASED
ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE ARE
ALREADY WORKING WITH AS WELL AS
THOSE WE ARE NOT WORKING WITH
UNDER THE A B 6 17 PROGRAM AS WE
MENTIONED THERE HAVE BEEN 65
COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE BEEN
NOMINATED FOR PARTICIPATION IN 6
17 BUT HAVE NOT YET BEEN
SELECTED SO CERTAINLY WITHIN THE
CONFINES OF THE SCOPE OF WORK IN
THIS CONTRACT WE ARE LOOKING TO,
YOU KNOW HIGHLIGHTS WHERE
ACTIVITIES ARE OCCURRING. IN
TERMS OF WHERE THEIR EXISTING
MONITORING UNDER AN A B 6 17
SALE PROGRAM, A DISTRICT LEAD
PROGRAM OR FEDERAL FEDERAL
PROGRAM. AS WELL. AS WHAT? UH
WHAT OTHER NEEDS HAVE HAVE WE
IDENTIFIED THROUGH THE 6 17
PROCESS IN TERMS OF COMMUNITIES
THAT HAVE BEEN NOMINATED BUT NOT
SELECTED. SO WHAT WE WOULD LIKE
TO DO IS TO LOOK AT WHAT
MONITORING IS ALREADY OCCURRING
IN DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES TO SEE
WHAT GAPS EXIST AS WELL AS WHAT
COMMUNITIES HAVE EXPRESSED THE
NEED FOR ADDITIONAL MONITORING
AND USE THAT TO BOUND SORT OF
AND PRIORITIZE WHERE WE WOULD
WORK WITH THE CONTRACTOR TO
CONDUCT THE MONITORING. UM WHAT?
WHAT'S THE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE
? IT'S GOING TO BE PROVIDED TO
HELP THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
SURE. INTERPRET THE OTHER OTHER
MONITORING PROGRAMS LIKE A B 6
17. RIGHT SO WE DO PROVIDE
TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE UNDER 86 17
, AS WELL AS OTHER WHAT WE WOULD
CALL SPECIAL PURPOSE MONITORING
STYLE PROJECTS LIKE THE STUDY OF
NEIGHBORHOOD, ERIN, YOU'RE
PETROLEUM SOURCES. SO FOR THOSE
PROJECTS WE DO MEET WITH
COMMUNITY STEERING COMMITTEES
THAT PARTICIPATE IN 86 17, AS
WELL AS COMMUNITY BASED
ORGANIZATIONS, WHERE WE WILL
OFTEN DISCUSS AIR MONITORING
TECHNOLOGIES ARE MONITORING
METHODS AND RESULTS AND TRY TO
PROVIDE CONTEXT FOR WHAT THAT
DATA MEAN. SO FOR EXAMPLE, WILL
OFTEN, UH, WORK WITH OUR
STAKEHOLDERS TO DESCRIBE HERE
THE CONCENTRATIONS OF DIFFERENT
POLLUTANTS WE'RE SEEING IN YOUR
COMMUNITY. HOW DOES THIS RELATE
TO THE NATIONAL AMBIENT AIR
QUALITY STANDARD? HOW DOES THIS
RELATE TO RELEVANT HEALTH
METRICS? PERHAPS THAT LIKE A
WEEK WOULD ESTABLISH AND THEN
HOW DO THESE SORT OF TRENDS
COMPARE AGAIN? YOU KNOW, ACROSS
TIME AND SPACE, SO WE REALLY TRY
TO CONDUCT WORKSHOPS AND SORT OF
DO SOME CROSS TRAINING WITH
COMMUNITY BASED ORGANIZATIONS
AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS TO
PROVIDE CONTEXT FOR WHAT THE
DATA MEAN. UM AND SO UNDER THIS
PROPOSAL. WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO
DO IS AGAIN BRING ON FOUR STAFF
WHO WILL REALLY BE WORKING WITH
THESE COMMUNITY BASED
ORGANIZATIONS TO UNDERSTAND AND
CLARIFY. WHAT IS IT IN TERMS OF
THE DATA DELIVERABLES THAT WE
WOULD LIKE TO GET OUT OF THIS
MOBILE MONITORING INITIATIVE? UM
AND ENSURE THAT THEIR INPUT IS
INCLUDED THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE
DURATION OF THE CONTRACT. SO IN
THIS CASE, THE COMMUNITIES WOULD
PROVIDE PROVIDING INPUT INTO HOW
THE MONITORING IS CONDUCTED HOW
THE DELIVERABLES ARE ESTABLISHED
, AND WHAT DATA PRODUCTS FOR
EXAMPLE, THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE
COME OUT OF THIS. SO YOU THINK
THE BENEFIT OF THIS EVEN THOUGH
IT'S A ONE TIME MONITORING
PROGRAM, THE BENEFIT OF THIS IS
GETTING BACK COMMUNITY. THERE
ARE MULTIPLE BENEFITS, SO WE
REALLY VIEW THIS PROGRAM IS
COMPLEMENTARY TO SAY WHAT WE
WOULD BE DOING IN SORT OF A B 6
17 WHERE WE'RE REALLY DOING A
DEEP DIVE IN A SPECIFIC
COMMUNITY. SO AS YOU KNOW, WE
HAVE ABOUT 19 COMMUNITIES THAT
PARTICIPATE IN A B 6 17, A
SUBSET OF WHICH HAVE COMMUNITY
AIR MONITORING PLANS AND IN
THOSE COMMUNITIES. YOU KNOW
WHICH LOCAL AIR DISTRICTS ARE
CONDUCTING VERY DETAILED
MONITORING TO UNDERSTAND SORT OF
DIFFERENT ISSUES THAT ARE
SPECIFIC TO THE CONDITIONS OF
THAT COMMUNITY. THIS TAKES A
SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT APPROACH AND
COMPLIMENTARY APPROACH IN THAT
IT'S MORE BROAD BASED. SO WHAT
WE'RE ABLE TO DO WITH THIS IS A
EVALUATE THE CONDITIONS OF AND
CONCENTRATIONS OF CRITERIA, AIR
POLLUTANTS, TOXIC AIR
CONTAMINANTS AND GREENHOUSE
GASSES ACROSS THE STATE ACROSS
MULTIPLE COMMUNITIES USING VERY
USING A CONSISTENT METHOD, SO
THAT ALLOWS US TO LOOK AT
DIFFERENCES. AND EVALUATE. MAYBE
YOU KNOW WHERE WHICH COMMUNITIES
MIGHT NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE
HELP IN CERTAIN AREAS. MAYBE
THERE'S MORE MONITORING THAT
MIGHT BE REQUIRED FOR OTHER
FOLLOW UP ACTIONS. UM AND SO, SO
THEY'RE VERY COMPLIMENTARY
APPROACHES. UM THAT WHAT THE
WORK REALLY WELL TOGETHER, SO
ONE IS YOU WOULD EVALUATE
BROADLY. AND THEN IF YOU
IDENTIFY THERE IS A NEED FOR
MORE SPECIFIC MONITORING. THEN
YOU COULD, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS USE
, UH, SORT OF AN 86 17 MODEL OR
SNAPS MODEL AND USE THIS
INFORMATION TO INFORM THOSE
OTHER PROGRAMS. I HAVE TO SPEAK
CONCEPT STILL HAVING TROUBLE
GETTING MY HEAD AROUND. THIS
VERSUS 6, 17 AND. THE
ADVANTAGES. I CERTAINLY RESPECT
PEOPLE. IN THE TRENCHES AND YOU
KNOW, DOING THIS DAY IN AND DAY
OUT, BUT JUST JUST FOR ME,
DIGESTING ALL THE STUFF THAT WE
HAVE. THERE IS JUST THIS IS THE
ONE THAT I'M I NEED I NEED TO
UNDERSTAND BETTER AS IT IS A
VERY SHORTLY MEMBERS. ANYBODY
ELSE? NO NO, I APPRECIATE THAT.
I WAS I WAS GONNA ASK A SIMILAR
QUESTION. BUT KIND OF STEPPING
BACK AND LOOKING AT BIGGER
PICTURE FOR A SEC. IN YOUR
OPINION, DOES THE STATE
CURRENTLY HAVE ENOUGH AIR
MONITORING SYSTEMS TO ACCURATELY
MEASURE EMISSIONS FOR THE STATE?
IF NOT HOW MANY. HOW. HOW. MUCH
MORE DO WE NEED AND HOW MUCH
WOULD IT LIKELY COST? THANK YOU
FOR THE QUESTION. SO IT MIGHT BE
HELPFUL TO FRAME THIS BY SORT OF
EXPLORING THE PORTFOLIO OF
MONITORING TOOLS IN THE DATA
SETS THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO
US, SO WE AT CARB AND AT OTHER
AGENCIES CONDUCT REGULATORY AIR
MONITORING CRITERIA. AIR
POLLUTANTS AT THE NUMBER OF
STATIONARY SITES THROUGHOUT THE
STATE. I THINK WE HAVE MIGHT ASK
HOW MANY SITES DO WE HAVE NOW?
OVER 200 OVER 200 STATIONARY
SITES ACROSS ACROSS THE STATE.
OF SUBSET OF THOSE ALSO MEASURED
TOXIC AIR CONTAMINANTS WE HAVE
ABOUT 14 TOXIC AIR CONTAMINANTS
SITES WHERE WE MEASURE TAX. WE
ALSO HAVE A ABOUT I WANT TO SAY
IT'S ABOUT 10 SITES THAT ALSO
MEASURE GREENHOUSE GASSES. SO
THESE SITES ARE REALLY OFTEN
DESIGNED TO LOOK AT REGIONAL
LONG TERM TRENDS AND ASSESS
ATTAINMENT WITH NATIONAL AMBIENT
AIR QUALITY STANDARDS. ANOTHER
TECHNOLOGY HAS COME OUT OUR AIR
SENSORS SO AS MANY COMMUNITY
BASED ORGANIZATIONS HAVE LEARNED
THEIR SENSORS HAVE MADE
MONITORING MORE ACCESSIBLE, AND
SO THESE ARE USUALLY CONSUMER
LEVEL DEVICES THAT COST A FEW
$100 AND HAS ALLOWED MORE
INDIVIDUALS TO PARTICIPATE IN
MONITORING. SO THESE SENSORS, OF
COURSE, PRIMARILY FOCUSED ON
CRITERIA, AIR POLLUTANTS, AND SO
YOU KNOW, AND WE HAVE THOUSANDS
OF THEM NOW IN CALIFORNIA, SO IN
TERMS OF SENSOR COVERAGE, WE
HAVE QUITE A FEW IN CALIFORNIA.
ON THE OTHER END OF THE SPECTRUM
. WE ALSO HAVE SATELLITE REMOTE
SENSING. SO UH SO WE ARE WE HAVE
A COUPLE OF SATELLITES THAT ARE
ALREADY IN ORBIT AND A FEW THAT
ARE COMING ONLINE. MOST OF THOSE
SATELLITES MEASURE UH, QUITE
WHAT WE WOULD CALL CRITERIA AIR
POLLUTANTS LIKE PM AND OZONE AND
THAT SORT OF THING. SO WE DO
HAVE THIS GEOSPATIAL
UNDERSTANDING OF THOSE TYPES OF
POLLUTANTS. AND THEN SOON
HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE A METHANE
SO LIKE WHICH WILL ALSO COVER
GREENHOUSE GASSES. WHAT'S
MISSING FROM FROM BOTH THOSE
SETS ARE TOXICS. AND SO WHAT
MOBILE MONITORING CAN PROVIDE IS
THAT MANY VENDORS ARE MEASURING
TOXIC AIR CONTAMINANTS WITH
THEIR MOBILE PLATFORMS, SO THIS
HELPS FILL MEASURING. WHAT DID
YOU SAY? THEY'RE TOXIC AIR
CONTAMINANTS IN THERE IN THE
MOBILE PLATFORMS, SO WHERE WERE
YOU FILLED THAT THIS MOBILE AIR
MODERATE INITIATIVE, THE GAP
THAT THIS FEELS IS REALLY
LOOKING AT INTRA COMMUNITY
TOXICS, BECAUSE THAT SEEMS THAT
IS THE PIECE THAT IS MISSING
FROM SORT OF THE OTHER TWO TYPES
OF TOOLS IN OUR PORTFOLIO.
THANKS. THAT'S REALLY HELPFUL.
UM AND PERHAPS WE CAN DEFER
DISCUSSION OF LIKELY CAUSE BUT
THAT'S ALWAYS OUT THERE AS WELL.
GOING TO THE ISSUE OF BABIES. 6
17. SO, ESSENTIALLY WHAT YOU'RE
PROPOSING HERE IS KIND OF A ONE
TIME ALLOCATION TOWARD AIR
MONITORING TECHNICAL AH! ASPECTS
COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT. UM, AND
THE LIKE. UM. WHY IS THAT MORE
VALUABLE THAN ALLOCATING THOSE
FUNDS TO A B 6 17? WHEN AT THE
SAME TIME THE ADMINISTRATION IS
PROPOSING A $50 MILLION CUT.
MAYBE 6 17. BRAIN AND MERIT FROM
THE DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE. THE
FOCUS OF THIS PROPOSAL IS ON
STAFFING AS YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THE
AIR MONITORING APPROPRIATION
THAT WAS APPROVED IN THE 2022
BUDGET ACT. THE ADMINISTRATION
DOES BELIEVE THE 250 MILLION AND
NET REMAINING 86 17 AFTER THE
BACKFILL FROM THE G REF. UM AND
THE PROPOSED 22 23 GOVERNOR'S
OUR BUDGET ACT IS SUFFICIENT FOR
THE PROGRAM. UM FOR THE PROGRAM
NEEDS FOR A B 6 17. SURE IT
MIGHT HELP TO, UM, SORT OF
PROVIDE THE CONTEXT FOR HOW HOW
THE TWO PROGRAMS DIFFER IN SORT
OF WHAT EFFICIENCIES WE GAIN.
SO, UM GOING BACK TO THE. THE
BREATH VERSUS DEPTH. SO AGAIN,
ONE TIME SNAPSHOT LOOKS AT, UH
GREENHOUSE GAS, TOXIC AIR
CONTAMINANTS, CRITERIA.
CONCENTRATIONS CRITERIA
POLLUTANT CONCENTRATIONS ACROSS
MULTIPLE COMMUNITIES USING A
CONSISTENT METHOD. UM, IT IS A
ONE TIME SNAPSHOT. AH, BUT IT IS
IT WILL PROVIDE A VIEW THAT WE
DON'T HAVE RIGHT NOW, IN TERMS
OF, UM UH, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT
THE TAX AS I MENTIONED EARLIER,
SO LOOKING AT THE TOXIC AIR
CONTAMINANTS IN THE INTRA
COMMUNITY SPACE UM 86 17 IS
FUNDAMENTALLY DIFFERENT IN THAT
THAT IS A DISTRICT LED AIR
MONITORING PROGRAM WITH CARB
OVERSIGHT AND THOSE MONITORING
PROGRAMS ARE TAILORED
SPECIFICALLY TO THE COMMUNITIES
THAT THE MONITORING IS OCCURRING
, SO EACH COMMUNITY HAS ITS OWN
SPECIFIC, UM, COMMUNITY
EMISSIONS INVENTORY. UH, IT HAS
ITS OWN. UM SORT OF KNOWN ISSUES
THAT COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS ARE
CONCERNED ABOUT. YOU KNOW, YOU
COULD, FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE SOME
COMMUNITIES THAT ARE THAT UNDER
6 17 THAT ARE IN REFINERIES AND
THEN SOME ARE IN RURAL
COMMUNITIES, AND THEY'RE MORE
CONCERNED ABOUT PESTICIDES. SO
THOSE MONITORING PROGRAMS ARE
VERY TAILOR MADE AND SPECIFIC TO
THOSE SPECIFIC NEEDS. WHEREAS
WITH THE MOBILE AIR MONITORING,
IT PROVIDES MORE OF A BROAD
ASSESSMENT ACROSS THE STATE. AND
WE'RE THAT REALLY HELPS IS TO
IDENTIFY ANY SORT OF ISSUES THAT
WERE NOT ALREADY AWARE OF, OR
SOURCES THAT AREN'T REFLECTED IN
OUR INVENTORIES THAT WE MAY NOT
KNOW ABOUT. SO IT HELPS FILL
AGAIN THE SORT OF THE TOXIC AIR
CONTAMINANTS GAP. UM AND LOOKING
AT COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE STATE
, AND ALSO TO, UH IT IS, I'LL
JUST REITERATE THAT IT DOES
SUPPORT CARBS. LARGER GOAL OF
EXTENDING SORT OF THE 86 17
COMMUNITY AIR MONITORING
BENEFITS TO COMMUNITIES THAT
AREN'T ALREADY APART OF 86 17.
QUESTION. I HAVE. WE STILL HAVE
65 COMMUNITIES THAT WANT TO BE
PART OF 6 17, AND THERE ISN'T
FUNDING FOR THEM. SO HOW DO WE
HOW DO WE SQUARE THAT WAS SAYING
WE DO HAVE SUFFICIENT FUNDING IF
WE HAVE 65 COMMUNITIES ARE STILL
WANT TO BE PART OF THE PROGRAM.
I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T CATCH THE
LAST PART WHERE YOU SAID, HOW DO
WE SQUARE THAT WITH THE WITH
WITH CUTTING WAS YOUR STATEMENT
WAS WE CAN GO AHEAD AND CUT 50
MILLION OUT OF 6 17. BECAUSE THE
MONEY THE FUNDS WE HAVE ARE
SUFFICIENT. THE FUNDS WE HAVE
ARE SUFFICIENT. HOW IS IT THAT
WE STILL HAVE 65 COMMUNITIES
THAT I WANT TO BE IN THE PROGRAM
THAT AREN'T IN THE PROGRAM.
YOU'VE GOT SOMEBODY THERE WHO
WANTS TO HELP YOU? THANK YOU, MR
CHAIR FOR THE QUESTION.
CHRISTIAN BELL CHAIR WITH THE
DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE, SO I
THINK WHAT I'D LIKE TO CLARIFY
IS THAT THE POINT THAT THE
ADMINISTRATION WAS TRYING TO
MAKE WAS THAT THE FUNDING THAT
WE ARE DISCUSSING TODAY FOR
TODAY'S ITEM IS THE REVERSION OF
THE $3 MILLION TO $30 MILLION
HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROPRIATED.
SO IT WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID IS
REHASHING THE $30 MILLION
APPROPRIATION IN THE DISCUSSION.
IN TERMS OF THE $250 MILLION AND
HOW THAT WILL BE UTILIZED IN THE
COMING BUDGET YEAR. IT IS THE
ADMINISTRATION'S VIEWPOINT THAT
THE 250 MILLION WILL BE
AVAILABLE IN THE 65 COMMUNITIES
THAT YOU'RE REFERENCING WILL BE
AVAILABLE TO, OF COURSE, COMPETE
FOR THOSE FUNDING, SO THE 65
COMMUNITIES HAVEN'T BEEN FUNDED
WITH THE EXISTING RESOURCES THAT
HAVE BEEN APPROPRIATED. THUS
FAR, HOWEVER, THEY DO HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO ALSO APPLY FOR
THIS UPCOMING POTENTIAL BUDGET
YEAR OF APPROPRIATIONS. WHAT'S
THE AVERAGE COST OF MOST OF THE
MOST OF LIKE THESE 65
COMMUNITIES? HOW MUCH OF THE OF
THE REMAINING 200. 50 PLUS THAT
THAT YOU HAVE. THANK YOU. THAT'S
A GOOD QUESTION. UNFORTUNATELY,
I DON'T OVERSEE THE OFFICE OF
COMMUNITY PROTECTION SO WE WOULD
HAVE TO GO BACK TO OUR
COLLEAGUES AT CARBON TO GET YOU
THAT ANSWER. COULD YOU DO THAT
FOR US? GREAT THANKS. UM AND
THEN DO D. I S C AND CALORIE
CYCLE DO THEY HAVE TOXIC DATA?
UH, I'M NOT WELL. I CAN'T SAY
FOR SURE WHETHER OR NOT THEY
HAVE TOXIC STATE AS RELATED TO
AIR QUALITY. I'M FROM EARLIER
DISCUSSIONS THAT SOUNDS LIKE
THEY PROBABLY HAVE SORT OF
MULTIMEDIA MULTIMEDIA
UNDERSTANDING OF TOXICS, BUT I
DON'T THINK I'M NOT AWARE OR I'M
NOT SURE IF I'M THE RIGHT PERSON
TO ANSWER THAT, FRANKLY, UM,
WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAVE SORT OF
TOXICS DATA IN THERE IN THERE.
PROGRAM. I RESPECT YOUR
PROFESSIONAL. SORT OF REQUEST
AND JUDGMENT ABOUT WANTING TO
GET THIS $30 MILLION AND HOW IT
CAN FILL THE GAP FOR YOU. I
WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO TRY TO
BE, UM A BIT MORE CLEAR WITH US
ABOUT THE BENEFITS OF THAT, UH,
JUST FROM MY OWN. FROM MY OWN
SAKE, AND I THINK TO THE EXTENT
OF OTHERS JUST TO MAKE SURE WE
UNDERSTAND THE BENEFITS OF THAT,
AS IT GOES FORWARD. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. UNDERSTOOD. THANK
YOU. ANYTHING ELSE? IT'S UH THAT
TAKES CARE OF THAT. WE ARE NOW.
BEFORE WE GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
I'M GOING TO MAKE A COMMENT. I
HOPE THE ADMINISTRATION'S
DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE PEOPLE CAN
HEAR THIS. AND THAT IS, UM YOU
KNOW? WE HAVE. JUST IN THIS
ISSUE WHERE WE HAVE 24 STEPS
POSITIONS TO APPROVE AS
TEMPORARY AND I KNOW MANY
ORGANIZATIONS FACE THIS AND
STATE OF CALIFORNIA DOES. UM IF
YOU MAKE US MAKE A POSITION
TEMPORARILY ARGUMENT AS WELL,
YOU CAN'T GET GOOD CANDIDATES TO
APPLY. BUT IF YOU MAKE A
TEMPORARY IF YOU HAVE A
TEMPORARY REVENUE SOURCE, AND
YOU MAKE THAT A PERMANENT
FUNDING POSITION YOU ALSO RUN
INTO DEFICIT DOWN THE ROAD, AND
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE
THE PROPER BALANCE THERE. SO
I'VE I THINK THAT GIVEN THE
VARIABILITY OF OUR REVENUE
SOURCES, UM WE OUGHT TO THINK
HARD AND CONSIDER A POLICY WHERE
WE SAY. IF YOU HAVE A TEMPORARY
TEMPORARY REVENUE SOURCE, YOU
NEED TO MAKE IT A TEMPORARY
POSITION UNLESS IT IS AN EXTREME
POSITION WHERE YOU JUST CAN'T
RECRUIT. BUT WE ADOPTED THAT
POLICY AT COUNTY LEVEL AND
EVERYBODY WAS CONCERNED ABOUT
THAT. BUT IT ENDED UP WORKING
OUT PRETTY WELL BECAUSE THOSE
PEOPLE THEN CAME IN. THEY
ESTABLISHED THEMSELVES. THEY HAD
A GOOD REPUTATION AND SOUTHERN
POSITIONS OPEN. THEY MOVED TO
PERMANENT POSITIONS. UM AND SO I
JUST GIVEN THE FISCAL CHALLENGES
WE HAVE IN THE STATE. I JUST
HOPE THAT WE WOULD START TO
IDENTIFY TEMPORARY FUNDING
SOURCES WITH TEMPORARY POSITIONS
AS MUCH AS WE POSSIBLY CAN.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH WILL NOW GO
TO PUBLIC COMMENT, UM, IN THE
ROOM. AND YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE
FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. DO YOU
HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON NON
DISCUSSION ITEMS? YEAH, OKAY.
HOLD ON ONE SECOND. AH, THANK
YOU. UH I JUST WANT TO MAKE A
COMMENT ON THE FUNDING ALLOCATED
TO A B 20 TO 38, WHICH IS THE
EXTREME HEAT STATEWIDE. UM
RANKING SYSTEM. I JUST WANT TO
THANK YOU FOR INVESTMENTS BEING
DIRECTED TOWARDS THE
IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS SYSTEM.
THAT WAS CREATED BY A B 20 TO
38. AH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S $2
MILLION INVESTMENT IS IMPORTANT
TO SET UP A STATEWIDE HE
NOTIFICATION SYSTEM. UH AND I
JUST WANT TO AH, THANK YOU AND
HOPE THAT, YOU KNOW. WE'RE ALSO
ABLE. TO RESTORE CUTS, OF COURSE
TO EXTREME HEALING COMMUNITY
RESILIENCE PROGRAM BECAUSE OF
WHY WE'RE INVESTING IN THIS
NOTIFICATION SYSTEM. WE ALSO
HAVE TO INVEST IN MITIGATION
EFFORTS TO THANK YOU. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. AND UM, ALRIGHT,
WE'RE HERE FOR PUBLIC TESTIMONY
. GOOD MORNING CHAIR AND MEMBERS
KAYLA ROBINSON ON BEHALF OF
RETHINK WASTE CALIFORNIANS
AGAINST WASTE, CNR ENVIRONMENTAL
SERVICES AND CALIFORNIA COMPOST
COALITION, ALWAYS STRONG SUPPORT
OF MAINTAINING THE FUNDING FOR
SP 13 83, THE STATE'S ORGANIC
WASTE RECYCLING TARGETS. THE
STATE IS IN DESPERATE NEED OF
ADDITIONAL CAPACITY FOR ORGANIC
WASTE RECYCLING AND LOCAL
ASSISTANCE. AND WITHOUT THIS
FUNDING, WE RISK LOSING SOME
PROJECTS ALREADY IN THE
DEVELOPMENT PIPELINE. AND I'D
ALSO LIKE TO ECHO YOUR COMMENTS
CHAIR AND AS WELL AS DIRECTOR
WAGNER'S ABOUT MAINTAINING THE
FUNDING FOR THIS YEAR WAS PLAN.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MR CHAIRMAN
MEMBERS. MY NAME IS GENESIS TANG
ON BEHALF OF THE NORTH
MICROPHONE DOWN A LITTLE BIT,
PLEASE ON BEHALF OF THE NORTH
AMERICAN INSULATION
MANUFACTURERS ASSOCIATION. THEY
ARE COMPRISED OF MANUFACTURERS
PRODUCING FIBERGLASS AND MINERAL
WOOL INSULATION. NAME A IS
SUPPORTIVE OF BEVERAGE CONTAINER
RECYCLING, GIVEN THAT THEY'RE
FIBERGLASS INSULATION USES HIGH
VOLUMES OF RECYCLED GLASS.
VARIOUS CONTAINERS AND
FIBERGLASS INSULATION ARE THE
TWO MAJOR USERS OF RECYCLED
GLASS AND FIBERGLASS INSULATION
ACCOUNTS FOR 30% OF THE RECYCLED
GLASS COOLER MARKET IN
CALIFORNIA. FIBERGLASS
INSULATION IS MADE AT THREE
CALIFORNIA FACILITIES TO SUPPLY
THE STATE'S BUILDINGS. AND
ALTHOUGH THE LAW REQUIRES AT
LEAST 30% RECYCLED GLASS AND
FIBERGLASS MANUFACTURER'S
ACTUALLY USED 50% OR MORE TO ITS
HIGH ENERGY EFFICIENCY.
UNFORTUNATELY SOME OF THE BILL'S
PROVISIONS ARE CUTTING OUT A
WHOLE MARKET FOR FIBERGLASS
INSULATION AND RECYCLERS RELY ON
PROCESSING PAYMENTS TO OFFSET
SOME OF THE COSTS OF SORTING OUT
OF RECYCLED GLASS. QUALITY
INCENTIVE PAYMENTS WAS AVAILABLE
TO RECYCLING PROCESSORS
REGARDLESS OF THE END USE,
HOWEVER, LAY EDITS TO SB 10 13
NARROW THIS PROCESSING PAYMENTS
TO BEVERAGE CONTAINERS USE ONLY
WITH THIS AD. IT'S THE STATE HAS
AN INTENTIONALLY CAPPED
AVAILABLE INSULATION MARKET OUT
OF THE QUEUE ÁP PROGRAM AND WILL
INEVITABLY PENALIZED RECYCLERS
WHO SUPPLY INSTALLATION.
MANUFACTURERS. NEMA SIX
DIFFERENT STATE THE PROCESSING
PAYMENT FOR THE USE OF RECYCLED
GLASS INTO FIBERGLASS INSULATION
THAT WILL OFFER A LONG LIFE
CYCLE BENEFITS. LOWER THE
EMBODIED CARBON OF FIBERGLASS
INSULATION, KEEP INSULATION
PRICES AFFORDABLE AND PREVENT A
10 TO 15% TAX AND KEEP
MANUFACTURERS AND JOBS IN THE
STATE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH FOR YOUR TESTIMONY. ANYBODY
ELSE IN THE ROOM? WELL NOW START
WITH THE PHONE LINES. OPERATOR.
IF YOU WILL LET US KNOW. AND THE
NUMBER IS 877692895. THE ACCESS
CODE IS 131544. AND IF WE DO
HAVE ANYBODY ONLINE AT THIS TIME
THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A
COMMENT, PLEASE PRESS 10 AT THIS
TIME AGAIN, IT'S 10. AND
CURRENTLY NO COMMENTS FROM THE
PHONE RIGHTS. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. THANK YOU. EVERYBODY FOR
YOUR ATTENDANCE, AND THIS
MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
HOW MUCH BETTER.