THANK YOU. WELCOME TO THE
ASSEMBLY LOCAL GOVERNMENT
COMMITTEE HEARING. I WOULD LIKE
TO REMIND THE PUBLIC FOR THE FOR
THIS AND FUTURE HEARINGS,
TESTIMONY WILL BE IN PERSON AS
WE NO LONGER ARE USING THE
MODERATE TELEPHONE SERVICE. WE
ALSO ACCEPT WRITTEN TESTIMONY
THROUGH THE POSITION LETTER
PORTAL ON THE COMPANY AROUND THE
BUSINESS COMMITTEE'S WEBSITE. I
WOULD ALSO LIKE TO GO OVER A FEW
GROUND RULES FOR APPROPRIATE
CONDUCT. ASSEMBLY HAS
EXPERIENCED A NUMBER OF
DISRUPTIONS TO COMMITTEE AND FOR
PROCEEDINGS IN THE LAST YEARS.
CONDUCT THAT DISRUPTS, DISTURBED
OR OTHERWISE IMPAIRED. THE EARLY
CONDUCT OF THE HEARING IS
PROHIBITED. SUCH CONDUCT MAY
INCLUDE TALKING OR MAKING LOUD
NOISES FROM THE AUDIENCE,
UTTERING LOUD OR THREATENING,
ABUSIVE LANGUAGE SPEAKING LONGER
THAN THE TIME ALLOTTED. EXTENDED
DISCUSSION OF MATTERS NOT
RELATED TO THE SUBJECT OF THE
HEARING OR BILL AND ANY OTHER
DISRUPTIVE ACTS. TO ADDRESS ANY
DISRUPTIVE CONDUCT. I WILL TAKE
THE FOLLOWING STEPS AND IF AN
INDIVIDUAL DISRUPTS OUR HEARING
PROCESS, I WILL DIRECT THEM TO
STOP. AND WARNED THEM THAT
CONTINUED DISRUPTIONS MAY RESULT
IN REMOVAL FROM THE CAPITOL
BUILDING. I WILL ALSO DOCUMENT
ON THE RECORD THE INDIVIDUAL
INVOLVED IN THE NATURE OF THE
DISRUPTIVE CONDUCT I MADE
TEMPORARILY RESIST THE HEARING.
THE CONDUCT DOES NOT STOP. I
WILL REQUEST THE ASSISTANCE OF
THE SERGEANT IN A SCORING THE
INDIVIDUAL FROM THE CAPITOL
BUILDING. OKAY UM, TODAY WE HAVE
15 MONTHS ITEMS ON THE AGENDA
THIS AFTERNOON. TWO OF THESE
ITEMS ARE PROPOSED FOR CONSENT.
ITEM NUMBER FOUR. MAYBE 5 29 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S GABRIEL. ITEM
15. MAYBE 17 53 BY THE COMMITTEE
ON LOCAL GOVERNMENT. WE WILL
HEAR ALL BILLS IN THE ORDER
SHOWN ON OUR AGENDA UNLESS
OTHERWISE NOTED. WE WILL TAKE UP
TO PRIMARY WITNESSES IN SUPPORT
ENOUGH TO PRIMARY WITNESSES AND
OPPOSITION. THESE WITNESSES WILL
HAVE THREE MINUTES EACH TO
PROVIDE THE TESTIMONY. ALL
SUBSEQUENT WITNESSES SHOULD
STATE THEIR NAME, THEIR
ORGANIZATION AND THE POSITION ON
THE BILL. UM WE DON'T APPEAR TO
HAVE A QUORUM RIGHT RIGHT NOW,
BUT WE WILL OPERATE AS A
SUBCOMMITTEE UNTIL WE ARE ABLE
TO ESTABLISH A QUORUM. LET'S SEE
THE FIRST ITEM TODAY ON OUR
AGENDA IS A B 4 34 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S GRAYSON. PLEASE
PROCEED WHEN YOU'RE READY, AND
THIS IS ITEM NUMBER. THAT'S IT.
ITEM NUMBER ONE. THANK YOU. MR
GRAYSON'S START WHEN YOU'RE
READY. THANK YOU, MADAM. CHAIR
AND MEMBERS. MAYBE 4 34 SEEKS TO
PROVIDE GREATER ACCOUNTABILITY
FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS BY
AUTHORIZING DEPARTMENT OF
HOUSING AND COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS
HCG TO NOTIFY A CITY COUNTY OR
THE ATTORNEY GENERAL WHEN THE
LOCAL ENTITY FAILS TO COMPLY
WITH STATE HOUSING STATUTES,
CALIFORNIA HAS A MASSIVE AND
GROWING HOUSING PRODUCTION AND
AFFORDABILITY GAP. SIX OF THE
NATION'S MOST EXPENSIVE LARGE
METROPOLITAN RENTAL MARKETS ARE
LOCATED RIGHT HERE IN THIS STATE
, ACCORDING TO THE ROADMAP
ROADMAP HOME 2030 CALIFORNIA
NEEDS TO BUILD 1.2 MILLION NEW,
AFFORDABLE HOMES THAT'S 100 AND
20,000 PER YEAR TO MEET THE
NEEDS OF LOW INCOME FAMILIES
OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS.
CALIFORNIA HAS NEVER PRODUCED
MORE THAN 20,000 NEW, AFFORDABLE
RENTAL HOMES IN ANY YEAR AS THE
LEGISLATURE HAS CONTINUED TO
RESPOND TO THE SENATE SORTED TO
THE STATES. SHORTAGE OF HOUSING
, THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF
NEW STATUTES PASSED IN RECENT
YEARS THAT HAVE BEEN MEANT TO
FACILITATE THE BUILDING OF NEW
HOUSING STOCK AND PREVENT THE
DELAY OF PROJECT APPROVAL. MANY
OF THESE STATUTES HAVE GIVEN HDD
THE CLEAR AUTHORITY TO REPORT
VIOLATIONS TO THE FOR
ENFORCEMENT. HOWEVER THERE HAVE
BEEN SOME HOUSING STATUTES WERE
H C D. AND THE A G S ROLE IN
ENFORCEMENT HAS BEEN UNCLEAR.
AMONG THESE HAVE BEEN SB SIX AND
SB NINE, AS WELL AS BILLS
GOVERNING THE SIGHTING OF
ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS. AND
JUNIOR 80 US WITHOUT CLEAR
AUTHORITY TO ENFORCE THESE LAWS
. THERE REALLY IS NO THE
POSSIBILITY THAT EVEN IF AN
ENTITY IS FOUND TO BE IN
VIOLATION OF THESE MUCH NEEDED
HOUSING LAWS HCG MAY BE UNABLE
TO BRING IN THE A G FOR AN
ENFORCEMENT ACTION. 84 34 WILL
HARMONIZE THE ENFORCEMENT OF
THESE IMPORTANT HOUSING POLICIES
BY CLARIFYING THE ROLES OF HCG.
AND THE A G AND ENFORCING WHAT
IS ALREADY CURRENT LAW
SPECIFICALLY A BEFORE 34
CLARIFIES EXISTING STATUTE AND
ADDS TO THE LIST OF HOUSING LAWS
COVERED BY GOVERNMENT CODE
SECTION 6 55 85, FOR WHICH HCG
CAN REPORT VIOLATIONS TO THE
ATTORNEY GENERAL. THIS WILL
ENSURE THAT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL
AND HCG HAVE ADEQUATE
ENFORCEMENT AUTHORITY
COMMENSURATE WITH OTHER STATE
HOUSING LAWS AND THAT LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS MAY BE HELD
ACCOUNTABLE TO THE LAW.
ULTIMATELY, THIS WILL REDUCE THE
COST OF HOUSING DEVELOPMENT AND
FACILITATE MEETING CALIFORNIA'S
HOUSING NEEDS A B 4 34,
SUPPORTED BY THE BAY AREA
COUNCIL, THE CALIFORNIA HOUSING
PARTNERSHIP, AS WELL AS THE
CALIFORNIA APARTMENT ASSOCIATION
, AMONG OTHERS, THIS MEASURE
PASSED OUT OF THE ASSEMBLY
HOUSING COMMITTEE WAS WITH A 60
VOTE AND I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
AND I VOTE TODAY. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S ARE THERE
ANY OTHER? UH WITNESSES HERE IN
SUPPORT OF THE BILL. IN
CALIFORNIA HOUSING PARTNERSHIP
PART FOUR PART THANK YOU. MARK
STIVERS AGAIN WITH THE
CALIFORNIA HOUSING PARTNERSHIP
IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. IS THERE ANYONE HERE IN
OPPOSITION? ANOTHER BILL FOR
YOUR SUPPORT? WHENEVER I'M
SORRY. JENNIFER ARMENTO WITH THE
CALIFORNIA HOUSING CONSORTIUM
AND SUPPORT THIS BILL. THANK
YOU. ANYONE ELSE IN SUPPORT.
SAYING NONE ANY OPPOSITION TO
THE BILL. SEEING NONE. UM DO ANY
QUESTIONS ANYONE ON THE
COMMITTEE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
REMEMBER DIXON. THANK YOU, MR
GRAYSON. UM HELP ME UNDERSTAND
THE CURRENT ENFORCEMENT AS WE
ALL KNOW, IT'S PUBLIC
INFORMATION ABOUT THE CITY OF
HUNTINGTON'S BEACH, WHICH
HAPPENS TO BE IN MY DISTRICT.
THERE ARE IN FACT, THERE WAS AN
ARTICLE IN THE LOCAL PAPER THAT
THERE ARE ONLY 15% OF THE BAY
AREA. CITIES ARE IN COMPLIANCE
WITH THE HOUSING ELEMENT. MY
HOME CITY, NEWPORT BEACH IS IN
COMPLIANCE BEFORE THE DEADLINE,
SO I UNDERSTAND COMPLIANCE AND
HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS. I'M JUST
STRUGGLING TO UNDERSTAND FROM IT
WITH WEARING MY CITY HAT. ONE
MORE LAWS. I MEAN OVER 100 LAWS
AFFECTING HOUSING AND LOCAL
GOVERNMENT MANDATES WERE BILLS
WERE MADE INTO LAW LAST YEAR.
LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ARE REALLY
DOING THEIR BEST, AND NOW YOU
WANT TO PUT THE STRONGER ARM OF
THE LAW. ON THEM. I FROM MY
UNDERSTANDING AN OBSERVATION. I
WORKED THROUGH THE ART NEWPORT'S
BEACHES HOUSING ELEMENT FOR
THREE YEARS. CONSTANT BACK AND
FORTH WITH HCG TO BEGIN
COMPLIANCE TO BE IN COMPLIANCE
AND THOSE AND THE THREAT OF H.
C. D S NONCOMPLIANCE. POWER WAS
POWERFUL ARE THEIR AUTHORITY WAS
POWERFUL AND THAT FORCED A LOT
OF CITIES OBVIOUSLY TO BECOMING
COMPLAINTS. I'M JUST STRUGGLING
ONE MORE LAW. ONE MORE MANDATE,
FORCING THE POWER OF THE STATE
WHEN STATES AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT
RATHER LOCAL GOVERNMENTS. I
BELIEVE ARE DOING THE BEST THEY
CAN TO REACH COMPLIANCE. WHY ARE
WE DOING THIS HEAVY HAND OF THE
LAW WHEN THE A G ALREADY HAS A
FILED SUIT AGAINST THE CITY AND
HUNTINGTON'S BEACHES, WE ALL
KNOW WHEN THERE'S SO MANY CITIES
THAT HAVEN'T EVEN SUBMITTED
THEIR HOUSING ELEMENT AND HDD
HAS THAT OPTION, SO I'M TRYING
TO UNDERSTAND WHY MORE IS
NEEDED. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
THAT STATEMENT OF WHY WE NEED
THIS BILL. AND THEN ALSO, UM FOR
YOUR OBSERVATION OF SOME OF THE
STRUGGLES AND CHALLENGES THAT WE
ARE FACING. SO WITH THAT WOULD
BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN
CONVERSATIONS AND POSSIBLY
PARTNERING AND IN A POLICY THAT
ADDRESSES H CDS, RESPONSES. I
LOVE IT TIMELINESS TO THOSE
RESPONSES. I UNDERSTAND THAT IS
A CHALLENGE. HAVING MY LOCAL
HEAD ON. ALSO, IN ADDITION TO
THAT UM, WE WERE VERY CAREFUL IN
DRAFTING THIS BILL TO MAKE SURE
THAT WE WEREN'T PILING ON. BUT I
BELIEVE AND I CAN STAND TO BE
CORRECTED. THIS WOULD ONLY ADD
TO THE LIST. SEVEN OF ALL THE
LAWS THAT HAVE BEEN PASSED, IT
WOULD ADD SEVEN TO THE LIST. SO
YOUR PHONE OPERATES RIGHT NOW,
TONIGHT OR TOMORROW NIGHT OR
NEXT WEEK. IF IT'S AN APPLE
PHONE, WHATEVER. AND YOU HAVE IT
SET ON AUTO IT'S GOING TO
AUTOMATICALLY UPDATE. WE DON'T
HAVE THAT LUXURY IN THE STATE
THAT OUR ENFORCEMENT POLICIES
AUTOMATICALLY UPDATE. SO WE HAVE
TO DO IS LEGISLATORS COME BACK
EVERY ONCE A WHILE, DO CLEANUP
ALLEGEDLY OR UPDATE LEGISLATION
AND IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, ALL
WE'RE DOING IS NOT GIVING THE G
ADDITIONAL POWER THAT THE A G
ALREADY ALREADY THE A G ALREADY
ENJOYS THAT POWER. ALL WE'RE
DOING IS UPDATING THE HOUSING
LIST FROM ALL THE NEW LAWS THAT
ARE COMING IN A SELECT FEW THAT
WE BELIEVE WOULD MAKE THE
DIFFERENCE AND MOVE THE NEEDLE
THAT WE ALSO BELIEVE THE CITIES
HAVE THE CAPABILITY OF RISING TO
THE OCCASION AND MEETING. OKAY,
BUT I'LL TAKE YOU UP ON THE
OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE FURTHER
CONVERSATION. NOW I LOOK FORWARD
TO THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
WORKING WITH YOU. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH MORE INFORMED. YES IF YOU
DON'T MIND, WE'RE GONNA TAKE THE
ROLE. WE HAVE A QUORUM AND SO WE
CAN MOVE THROUGH, OKAY?
AGUIAR-CURRY CURRY PRESENT.
DICKSON DICKSON PRESENT BURNER.
CHICO. HERE PRESIDENT RAMOS
PRESENT RIVAS. WALDRON. WILSON.
WILSON PRESIDENT, YOU HAVE A
POINT. OKAY WE HAVE A QUORUM.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO CONTINUE? DO
WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM
THE COMMITTEE? OKAY SO NOW WE
CAN ENTERTAIN A MOTION. NOW YOU
CAN MOVE THE BILL YET. WE HAVE A
MOTION BIAS. SOMEONE REMEMBER
WILSON A SECOND FIVE SOMETHING,
REMEMBER PACHECO. OKAY TAKE THE
AGREE OUR CURRY CURRY. I DIXON
40. DIXON, NOT VOTING. BURNER.
PACHECO. CHECK OH, I BRAVO'S
OZAI RIVAS. WALDRON. WILSON.
WILSON. I. AND THIS BILL WILL BE
GOING TO THE APPROPRIATIONS
COMMITTEE. ONCE WE GET ALL OUR
VOTES AND THANK YOU. BILL NEEDS
MORE VOTES AND THE BILLS ON
CALL, OKAY? LET'S GO TO ITEM
NUMBER TWO AND AGAIN, MR GRAYSON
, WOULD YOU LIKE TO BEGIN ONCE
AGAIN? THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR
AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. I
WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN BY THANKING
THE COMMITTEE FOR WORKING WITH
US ON THIS BILL. MAYBE 8 21 IS A
SIMPLE BILL THAT WOULD HELP
PREVENT DELAYS IN HOUSING
PRODUCTION AND ALSO HELP
FACILITATE THE MUCH NEEDED
HOUSING THAT IS THAT THE STATE
NEEDS. THIS BILL SEEKS TO
ADDRESS INSTANCES WHERE THE
LOCAL JURISDICTIONS GENERAL PLAN
MAY BE INCONSISTENT WITH THE
LOCAL JURISDICTIONS. ZONING
ORDINANCES UNDER THIS BILL IF
THERE IS A SITUATION WHERE AN
APPLICATION IS SUBMITTED, WHERE
THE WHERE THE GENERAL PLAN AND
THE ZONING PLAN ARE
INCONSISTENT, THE LOCAL
JURISDICTION WOULD HAVE TWO
OPTIONS. THEY WOULD EITHER HAVE
TO PROCESS THE APPLICATION FOR
THE DEVELOPMENT. AND ALLOW IT TO
MOVE FORWARD OR AMEND THEIR
ZONING ORDINANCES TO MAKE THEM
CONSISTENT WITH THEIR GENERAL
PLAN WITHIN 90 DAYS, LOCAL
JURISDICTIONS ARE REQUIRED BY
STATUTE TO HAVE THEIR GENERAL
PLANS AND ZONING ORDINANCES
CONSISTENT WITH EACH OTHER ONCE
AGAIN, THAT'S REQUIRED BY
STATUTE, BUT THIS IS NOT ALWAYS
THE CASE. INCONSISTENCIES
BETWEEN THE GENERAL PLAN AND
ZONING MAY HAPPEN FOR SEVERAL
REASONS, INCLUDING GENERAL PLAN
AMENDMENTS. AND OR UPDATES
CURRENTLY, IF THERE IS AN
INCONSISTENCY, LOCAL
JURISDICTIONS MUST ADMIT THEIR
ZONING ORDINANCES TO BECOME
CONSISTENT WITH THEIR GENERAL
PLAN WITHIN REASONABLE TIME.
WHILE THIS IS THE REQUIREMENT,
THERE IS NO DEFINED TIMELINE FOR
WHAT A REASONABLE TIME IS
LEADING TO DELAYS OF MONTHS AND
EVEN YEARS, MAYBE 8 21 WILL HELP
BRING A CLEARER TIMELINE TO WHAT
IS CONSIDERED REASONABLE AND
WILL HELP PREVENT FURTHER DELAYS
IN HOUSING DEVELOPMENT WITH ME
TO TESTIFY THROUGH THE CHAIR
TODAY IS MICHAEL LANE, STATE
POLICY DIRECTOR FOR SPUR.
WELCOME THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR
AND MEMBERS. MICHAEL LANE WAS
FOR PUBLIC POLICY THINK TANK IN
THE SAN FRANCISCO BAY AND I'M
ALSO A FORMER CITY COUNCIL
MEMBER MYSELF, SO TRYING TO
BRING SOME LOCAL GOVERNMENT
SENSITIVITY HERE. UM BUT AS MR
GRAYSON SAID, FOR 50 YEARS JUST
ACTUALLY BEEN REQUIRED IN
STATUTE THAT THE ZONING CODE
ALIGN WITH WITH THE LAND USE,
BUT IT WAS SAID WITHIN A
REASONABLE TIME, AND THAT'S WHAT
WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS IS THAT
THE COURTS HAVE SAID THAT'S A
LITTLE BIT VAGUE, AND THEY NEED
MORE GUIDANCE FROM THE
LEGISLATURE. SO WE LOOKED AT THE
LANGUAGE AND SP 3 30, WHICH
ALREADY ALLOWS US FOR
DEVELOPMENTS OR TWO THIRDS
RESIDENTIAL AND SAID, COULD BE
EXPANDED TO MIXED USE
DEVELOPMENTS AS WELL WITH THAT
SAME KIND OF A REGIME AND IT'S
ONLY FOR LIFE PROJECT, SO THIS
IS NOT JUST IN GENERAL. IT'S
ONLY WHEN THERE IS A DEVELOPMENT
THAT COULD COME FORWARD BUT
COULD BE SUBJECT TO LITIGATION.
IF YOU DO HAVE THE DISCREPANCY
BETWEEN THE ZONING CODE AND THE
LAND USE, IT WOULD BE ABLE TO
FIX THAT, WITH NOTIFICATION,
GRATEFUL TO HAVE BEEN WORKING
WITH THE CONSULTANT ON THE
COMMITTEE ON THIS IN THE APA AS
WELL TO GET TO THIS TYPE OF
LANGUAGE RIGHT HERE AND
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST AND I VOTE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ARE THERE
OTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT?
PLEASE JOIN US AT THE
MICROPHONE. MADAM PURA BOB
NAYLOR, REPRESENTING THE FIELDS
DEAD AND COMPANY THAT'S HOWARD
AHMANSON JR AND ORANGE COUNTY
PHILANTHROPISTS AND STRONG
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. FOR MANY
DAYS, USED THE LIGHTHOUSE,
PUBLIC AFFAIRS AND SUPPORT FOR
ON BEHALF OF DAN HILL PROPERTIES
AND HABITAT FOR HUMANITY.
CALIFORNIA THANK YOU. DIDN'T
NEED A STRONGER AND VOLUNTEER ON
BEHALF OF AARP, CALIFORNIA
CAPITAL RESPONSE TEAM IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. JENNIFER
ARMENTO WITH THE CALIFORNIA
HOUSING CONSORTIUM AND STRONG
SUPPORT OF THIS BILL. GREAT
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SEEING NO
OTHER IN SUPPORT. ARE THERE ANY
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION TO THE
BILL? GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM
CHERRY MEMBERS LAUREN DAY
VALENCIA REPRESENTING THE
AMERICAN PLANNING ASSOCIATION.
WE'RE ACTUALLY IN A KIND OF
TWITTER POSITION RIGHT NOW NOT
OPPOSED TO THE BILL. BUT AS
MICHAEL HAS SAID, WE ARE WORKING
WITH THE AUTHOR AND THE SPONSORS
RIGHT NOW. I'M TRYING TO REFINE
WHAT REALLY IS A REASONABLE TIME
FRAME TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ONE
THE GENERAL PLAN IS UPDATED THAT
THERE IS TIME TO GET THAT ZONING
ORDINANCE IN PLACE AND JUST
UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE SCOPE OF
THE BILL IS FOR OUR MEMBERS TO
BE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT THAT, BUT
WE REALLY APPRECIATE THOSE
CONVERSATIONS IN THE WORK OF THE
COMMITTEE ON THE BILL THUS FAR,
THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK
YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. ANYONE IN
OTHER IN OPPOSITION. OKAY SING.
NONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT
COMMITTEE THAT'S SOMEONE.
REMEMBER DIXON. I AM IN SUPPORT
OF THIS. I JUST ACTUALLY ECHO AT
THE GAL WHO JUST SPOKE IS 90
DAYS ENOUGH. I MEAN, YOU HAVE TO
GO THROUGH THE STUDY PROCESS YOU
HAVE TO DO THEIR INVESTIGATIONS
HAS TO BE GENDER WISE FOR CITY
COUNCIL PLANNING COMMISSION.
THAT CITY COUNCIL JUST TAKES
TIME IS 90 DAYS IN YOUR OPINION
, TOO, IS YOU THINK THAT'S
SUFFICIENT WOULD BE AN EXTRA ON
AN EXPEDITED BASIS OR 120 DAYS?
I UNDERSTAND THE MERITS OF IT. I
TOTALLY AGREE. I JUST TRYING TO
AGAIN. BIG B COGNITIVE OF THE
DEMANDS ON OUR LOCAL PLANNING
STAFF. ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S DIXON I
THINK THAT'S A GREAT OBSERVATION
, AND THAT'S WHY WE REMAIN OPEN
AND CONTINUING TO HAVE
CONVERSATIONS AND WORK WITH ALL
STAKEHOLDERS. AND IF I MIGHT
JUST ADD TO THE JURISDICTION
COULD ALSO CHOOSE NOT TO GO
AHEAD AND UPDATE ALLOWED THE
PROJECT TO GO FORWARD USING THE
LAND USE DESIGNATION THAT
IDENTITY AND THE DEVELOPMENT
SETTLEMENTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN
ADOPTED BY THE COUNCIL. GREAT
YEAH, SOME OF THE MEMBER UM
WILSON. I WAS GOING TO GIVE THE
SAME ECHO IS THAT I SUPPORT THE
PROPOSAL AND THANK YOU FOR
BRINGING IT FORWARD AS YOU KNOW,
PRODUCTION, AS YOU'VE STATED
WITH DATA PRODUCTION IS AN ISSUE
AND, UM, CALIFORNIA THE ISSUE I
HAVE COMING FROM LOCAL GOV. IS
THAT 90 DAYS? UM A DIFFERENT
TIMES OF THE YEAR IS NOT 90 DAYS
WHEN I THINK ABOUT WHAT MY CITY
HAS TO GO THROUGH DURING THE
HOLIDAY TIMES AND THE VACANCIES
AND POSITIONS OR PEOPLE BEING
OUT AND YOU KNOW THE TIMINGS
WHERE YOU DON'T MEET BECAUSE OF
HOLIDAYS IN THE SAME TIME WHEN I
THINK ABOUT WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO
PASSED THE BUDGET THEIR SPECIFIC
TIMES OF THE YEAR. THAT 90 DAYS
IS REALLY NOT 90 DAYS, AND SO
EVEN IF IT'S NOT EXPANDING THE
NUMBER OF DAYS BUT ALLOWING LIKE
A ONE TIME 30 DAY IF THEY WANTED
TO DO THAT, BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T
WANT IT TO MATCH THE GENERAL
PLAN. I'M NOT BROTHER PROJECT. I
DON'T THINK THAT'S ONEROUS. BUT
I DO SUPPORT WHAT YOU'RE DOING
AND WE'LL GIVE IT SUPPORT HERE
AND ON THE FLOOR. BUT IF YOU CAN
TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION,
EITHER YOU KNOW, EXTENDING THE
TIME OR JUST ALLOWING A ONE TIME
30 DAY, SOMETHING THAT AFFECT
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT
SUGGESTION WILL TAKE IT HEART
AND MAKE IT A PART OF OUR
CONVERSATION. THOSE ARE GREAT
QUESTIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WE HAVE
EMOTIONS. OKAY WE HAVE
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S PACHECO AND
SUDDENLY MEMBER WILSON. THANK
YOU SO MUCH FOR GRACE. AND
YOU'RE TRYING TO FIX SOMETHING
THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN FIXED
YEARS AGO, BUT NEVERTHELESS, I'M
PLEASED TO SUPPORT YOUR BILL.
TODAY, THE MOTION IS DUE PASS TO
THE HOUSING AND COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE SECRETARY
. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL CURRY
CURRY, I DIXON BURNER. CHICO
CHICO, I. RAMOS BROUGH. SEE
REBUS. WALDRON. WILSON WILSON,
RIGHT. LET'S SEE HERE. 50 OKAY.
THE BILL THAT BILL NEEDS VOICE
DOESN'T KNOW YET. THE VOTE IS.
50 AND WE WILL LEAVE IT OPEN FOR
ABSENT MEMBERS TO ADD ON RIGHT?
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. UM
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S RAMOS. WOULD
YOU LIKE TO DO YOUR BILL? I
DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE HERE YET.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR AND
COMMITTEE MEMBERS TODAY I'M HERE
TO PRESENT A B 516. IT'S AIMED
AT INCREASING TRANSPARENCY,
AMONG OTHER THINGS TO THE
MITIGATION FEE ACT. SMALL
BUSINESSES ARE A PILLAR TO
CALIFORNIA'S ECONOMY AND OFTEN
STRUGGLE, THE MOST DUE TO
UNFORESEEN EXPENSES. UM ONE SUCH
BEING DEVELOPMENT FEES FOR
PERMITS. AS IT STANDS. THIS
PROCESS OFTEN LEAVES SMALL
BUSINESSES IN THE DARK AS THEY
FEEL THAT THE MONEY THEY PAY FOR
THESE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS SIT
IDLY IN ACCOUNTS. MY BILL ADDS
REQUIREMENTS THAT LOCAL AGENCY
MUST INCLUDE INFORMATION FOR
DELAYS TO THESE PROJECTS, AS
WELL AS INFORMATION AS TO WHEN
THE CONSTRUCTION MIGHT BEGIN OR
RESUME. WE ALSO REQUIRE THAT A
LOCAL AGENCY INFORMS THOSE PAIN
. THESE FEES THAT THEY HAVE A
RIGHT TO REQUEST AN AUDIT OF
THESE FUNDS. THIS IS ONE STEP
AND PROVIDING CLARITY TO THE
MITIGATION FEE ACT FOR SMALL
BUSINESS OWNERS ACROSS THE
STATE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH OTHER
WHITNEY WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
SINGING AND WAS THERE ANY
OPPOSITION IN THE ROOM? SEE NONE
ARE THERE? UH, ANY QUESTIONS
FROM THE COMMITTEE? YEAH THAT'S
SOMETHING REMEMBER, DIXON. OH
OKAY. IT SOUNDS GOOD. WELL GUESS
WHAT? THAT MIGHT BE A VOTE. OKAY
WE'LL HAVE A MOTION BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S DIXON, SECOND
BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S PACHECO. UM
LET'S SEE HERE. WOULD YOU LIKE
TO CLOSE? THAT'S WHERE I VOTE.
OKAY THANK YOU. SOME MEMBERS
WERE ALMOST FOR WORKING WITH THE
COMMITTEE ON YOUR BILL. I
BELIEVE YOUR BILL ESTABLISHES
APPROPRIATE NEW TRANSPARENCY
MEASURES FOR THE MITIGATION FEE
ACT, AND I'M PLEASED TO SUPPORT
YOUR BILL TODAY. EMOTIONS DO
PASS TO THE HOUSING AND
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE
SECRETARY PLEASE CALL THE ROLL
BAR CURRY CURRY. I DIXON
BOERNER HORVATH. MOHS MASAI
RIVAS WALDRON. WILSON WILSON.
AYE. ZERO. 50 VOTE IS 50. YOU'LL
LEAVE THE ROLE OPEN FOR MEMBERS
CAÑADA. YES, PLEASE. THANK YOU,
MADAM CHAIR. I JUST WANT TO
THANK YOU AND YOUR COMMITTEE FOR
YOUR WORK ON THE BILL VERY MUCH.
APPRECIATE IT. MAYBE 901 CREATES
A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN LOCAL
AGENCIES IN THE STATE TO FUND
AFFORDABLE HOUSING CONSTRUCTION
. THE BILL ENCOURAGES LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS TO CREATE AFFORDABLE
HOUSING FINANCING DISTRICTS
COLLECT THE TAX INCREMENT FROM
THESE DISTRICTS AND PULL THE
FUNDS COLLECTED AT THE STATE
LEVEL. TO ACQUIRE BONDS BY
CREATING THESE AFFORDABLE
HOUSING FINANCING DISTRICTS ALL
AROUND THE STATE. WE HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO PULL THIS MONEY
BY BY RAISING THOSE FUNDS AT THE
STATE LEVEL, WE CAN HAVE GREATER
EFFICIENCY RATHER THAN HAVING
EVERY SINGLE REDEVELOPMENT
DISTRICT OR INFRASTRUCTURE
FINANCING DISTRICT OR CITY
ACTUALLY GO AND FLOAT THESE
BONDS THEMSELVES. SO BY
STREAMLINING THIS APPROACH, WE
COULD ACTUALLY LEVERAGE THE
STATE, UH, LOWER RATE THEIR
ABILITY TO BORROW AND PULL THESE
REVENUES. UM THIS CREATES A
PERSPECTIVE AND RELIABLE FUNDING
STREAM FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE
BEEN CLEARLY LACKING. I HAVE ONE
WITNESS, TOM LOCKARD, WHO HAS
BEEN MUNICIPAL FINANCE BANKER
FOR OVER 37 YEARS. AH JUST FROM
FOUR TO HIM. THANK YOU. WELCOME
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WELCOME TO
YOU. MY NAME IS TOM LOCKARD. I
LIVE AT 1 53 5 FOR STREET. SAN
FRANCISCO. I'M TESTIFYING IN
SUPPORT OF A B 901. AH AS
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S POINTED OUT.
I'VE BEEN INVESTMENT BANKER IN
PUBLIC FINANCE FOR THE PAST 37
YEARS NOW WINDING DOWN A
BUSINESS, SO I'M ESSENTIALLY NOT
CONFLICTED IN WHAT BENEFIT FROM
ANYTHING THAT MIGHT COME OUT OF
THIS LEGISLATION. PROPOSED
LEGISLATION WILL STREAMLINE THE
PROCESS FOR ESTABLISHING TAX
INCREMENT FINANCING. TO CAPTURE
PROPERTY TAXES ASSOCIATED WITH
PROPERTY VALUE APPRECIATION.
UNDER THE PROPOSED LEGISLATION.
TAX INCREMENT REVENUES WOULD BE
PLEDGED TO BONDS ISSUED BY CAL H
F A. FOR THE EXPRESS EXPRESS
PURPOSE OF ASSISTING IN THE
CREATION OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING
SO AGAIN, JUST FOR AFFORDABLE
HOUSING. BUT I'M PROCEEDS WOULD
BE MAXIMIZED, AND THAT'S
IMPORTANT HERE FROM THE LIMITED
TAX INCREMENT REVENUE PLEDGE BY
COMBINING STATEWIDE DISTRICTS TO
PROVIDE INVESTORS WITH GREATER
PROPERTY OWNERSHIP AND
GEOGRAPHIC DIVERSIFICATION,
WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT IF YOU
THINK ABOUT HOW THE STATE
PREVIOUSLY USED TAX INCREMENT
FINANCE SUCH DIVERSIFICATION
WILL PERMIT A LOWER BOND DEBT
SERVICE COVERAGE RATIO. LOWER
THE COMMITMENT OF BOND PROCEEDS
TO AKASH FUNDED RESERVE FUND FOR
THE BENEFIT OF INVESTORS. AND
LOWER THE COST OF CAPITAL
BECAUSE OF A HIGHER CREDIT
RATING. THIS WILL PRODUCE THE
MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF BOND PROCEEDS
FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. ALL
OTHER THINGS BEING EQUAL. THE
PROPOSED LEGISLATION LOWERS THE
COST TO CREATING A TAX INCREMENT
FINANCING DISTRICT BY
SIMPLIFYING THE PROCESS FOR
ESTABLISHING A DISTRICT.
PROCEEDS WILL BE CONTRIBUTED TO
THE CAPITAL STACK REQUIREMENTS
FOR DEVELOPING AFFORDABLE
HOUSING, WHICH WILL EXTEND OTHER
PUBLIC RESOURCES AVAILABLE FOR
AFFORDABLE HOUSING. IF YOU LIKE
MATH. I CAN GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE
. UH IF ONLY 5. HAVE A SINGLE
YEARS FUTURE STATE. PROPERTY
VALUE APPRECIATION WERE PLEDGED
TO A TAX INCREMENT FINANCING
DISTRICT. THAT WOULD TRANSLATE
INTO APPROXIMATELY $20 MILLION
OF ANNUAL REVENUE FOR AFFORDABLE
HOUSING. PLEDGING THIS $20
MILLION TO ATTACKS INCREMENTS
REVENUE BOND ISSUE WOULD PRODUCE
APPROXIMATELY $300 MILLION AND
AFFORDABLE HOUSING FUNDS. THIS
ASSUMES. THESE ARE THE
ASSUMPTIONS THE VALUE OF
CALIFORNIA REAL ESTATE IS
APPROXIMATELY $8.3 TRILLION.
IMAGINE A 2% ANNUAL INCREASES IS
PERMITTED BY PROP 13 BY A COUNTY
ASSESSOR. THE 1% COUNTY TAX RATE
, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, PURSUANT
TO A BE A GETS DIVIDED UP AMONG
CITIES, COUNTY SCHOOLS, TRANSIT
DISTRICT SPECIAL DISTRICTS,
ETCETERA, WE CUT THAT DOWN AGAIN
. LET'S SAY THE IN THIS CASE
WE'RE ONLY USING 25% OF THAT 1.
WE THEN APPLY 1.15 TIMES
COVERAGE FACTOR, AND WE
ADVERTISE THAT OVER 30 YEARS AT
A 4% COST OF FUNDS, AND THAT
PRODUCES ON JUST THAT ONE YEAR,
APPROXIMATELY $300 MILLION THAT
COULD BE USED FOR AFFORDABLE
HOUSING. AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS
IF YOU HAVE ANY, THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE
MATH. THAT HELPS OKAY. UM, IS
THERE ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT? MICHAEL AND WHISPER AND
SUPPORT THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE
IN SUPPORT SOMEONE. GOOD
AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS ROGER DICKINSON ON
BEHALF OF CIVIC WELL, FORMERLY
THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT COMMISSION
AND SUPPORT THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THE OTHERS. ALL RIGHT. ARE THERE
ANY WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION TO
THE BILL? SEEING NONE. ARE THERE
ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE
COMMITTEE? YES ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
. THIS IS MORE OF A MR TANG THIS
MORE OF A GENERIC QUESTION, AND
MAYBE YOUR EXPERT WITNESS COULD
HAVE A COMMENT TO SINCE THE END
OF REDEVELOPMENT AGENCIES ABOUT
10 YEARS AGO, 11 YEARS AGO. NOW
I THINK IT WAS 2012. UM THERE
WAS A LOT OF ADJUSTMENT TO THAT
IT'S STILL GOING ON, I GUESS BUT
ONE OF THE LEARNINGS THAT I
PERSONALLY MADE AT THE LOCAL
GOVERNMENT LEVEL WAS THE TAX
INCREMENT FINANCING, WHICH I
ALWAYS THOUGHT WAS A POSITIVE
THING BECAUSE IT'S SCOOPED THAT
MONEY OFF THE TOP, BUT WHAT WAS
LEFT AT THE LOCAL LEVEL, WHETHER
FOR SCHOOLS, WHETHER FOR CITIES,
WHETHER FOR LOCAL AGENCIES WAS A
TAKE AWAY FROM THE LOCAL BUDGET.
AND SINCE THEN, SINCE THAT TIME
THAT MONEY HAS BEEN USED BY
LOCAL GOVERNMENT TO HAVE A
COMPLETE GENERAL FUND BUDGET.
UH, FUND. AH I MEAN, THERE ARE
JUST A LOT OF EXPENSES NOW THAT
HAVE BEEN ADDED ON TO LOCAL
GOVERNMENT AND THE PUBLIC
EMPLOYEE PENSION SYSTEM IS
PROBABLY THE FIRST THAT COMES TO
MIND. SO WHEN YOU HAVE CITIES
ALL OVER CALIFORNIA, THE
MAJORITY OF CITIES HAVE A HOT
LARGE ON A, UH, UNFUNDED
LIABILITY FOR PUBLIC EMPLOYEE
PENSIONS. THAT'S A CONCERN OF
MINE THAT WERE TAKING MONEY OFF
THE TOP, SO I WOULD, FRANKLY
BEFORE, AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S
SOME OTHER BILLS RELATED TO TAX
INCREMENT FINANCING. I DON'T
KNOW. I'M NEW HERE. HAS THERE
BEEN AN ANALYSIS ABOUT THE
CURRENT STATUS OF AND YOU WOULD
KNOW TO MR TING, HOW WE REALLY
STAND ON THAT AND HOW IT WOULD
IMPACT LOCAL GOVERNMENT. YEAH I
COULD STEP IN. THANK YOU.
THERE'S A VERY HELPFUL COMMENTS.
THE WHAT HAPPENS HERE WOULDN'T
BE STATEWIDE IT WOULD BE DONE BY
EACH JURISDICTION WOULD SET UP A
DISTRICT SO A CITY OR COUNTY
WOULD HAVE TO MAKE THE DECISION
TO DO THAT AND TO DIVERT THE
PROPERTY APPRECIATION FROM THE
GENERAL FUND, AS YOU'RE
SUGGESTING TO ADDRESSING THE
NEED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, SO
IT WOULD BE JURISDICTION BY
JURISDICTION. DECISION TO DO
THAT. THE BENEFIT IS THAT WE?
WE, HOOVER THAT ALL UP AND WE
THROW IT. WE ISSUED THROUGH THE
STATE AS MANY OTHER STATES DO,
BUT CALIFORNIA DOESN'T THIS WILL
CREATE THE ABILITY OF GETTING
THIS GEOGRAPHIC DISTRIBUTION,
WHICH WE LIKE BECAUSE IN
CALIFORNIA BECAUSE OF THE RISK
ASSOCIATED WITH WIND FIRE.
EARTHQUAKE. WE'RE GIVING
INVESTORS GREATER SECURITY BY
USING THAT GEOGRAPHIC
DIVERSIFICATION AS WELL AS
PROPERTY OWNERSHIP
DIVERSIFICATION, BUT IT WOULD BE
UP TO AND THIS IS THE IMPORTANT
POINT YOU'RE RAISING. DOING IT
JURISDICTION BY JURISDICTION AND
THEY WOULD EACH HAVE TO MAKE
THAT DECISION. THANK YOU. MUCH.
OKAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM, WE
HAVE MOTION. WE HAVE A MOTION BY
US. BEFORE WE GO ANY FURTHER.
UM, WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE?
SHOULD DOMESTIC CUTTING. THE
ONLY THING I JUST HAD SOMETHING
. MARGARET DIXON'S QUESTION WAS
, UM WHEN REDEVELOPMENT WAS
DISSOLVED, WHICH IS BEFORE I GOT
HERE. I THINK PART OF THE
CHALLENGE WAS AND I FORGET ALL
THE FINANCING SCHEMES, BUT THEY
WERE STATE MONEY INVOLVED, TOO.
SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT SWEETEN
THE POT FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS,
AND THAT I THINK HAS WHAT'S
CHANGED OVER TIME. NOW THE
STATE'S MONEY IS BACK IN THE
GENERAL FUND, THE LOCALS MONEY
BACK IN THE GENERAL FUND. THE
CHALLENGE IS THERE'S NOTHING
THAT'S REALLY DEDICATED TO
AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND NOW WE
HAVE THIS HUGE, AFFORDABLE
HOUSING CRISIS, NOT JUST IN MY
CITY STATEWIDE, BUT IT'S NOT.
IT'S NO LONGER JUST AN URBAN AND
URBAN ISSUES, SO I THINK THIS IS
JUST ONE WAY TO POTENTIALLY
TACKLED. THIS SHOULD FOLKS
DECIDE TO OPT IN, SO IT'S NOT
MANDATORY. IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY
TO OPT IN. AND THEN THIS CREATES
A POTENTIAL VEHICLE TO BE ABLE
TO GET MORE FORMAL HOUSING
MONEY. WITHOUT RESPECT, FAST
DRIVE UP. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU FOR PRESENTING THE
BILL. UH EXCUSE ME. THANK YOU
FOR WORKING WITH OUR COMMITTEE
TO GET THE COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS
ADOPTED LAST WEEK. WE'RE FINDING
NEW AND INNOVATIVE WAYS TO
FINANCE AND BUILD AFFORDABLE
HOUSING IS CRITICAL TO MEETING
OUR FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING NEEDS
WILL BE SUPPORTING YOUR BILL.
TODAY THE MOTIONS DO PASS TO THE
HOUSING AND COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE SECRETARY.
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. REAL CURRY
CURRY. I DIXON? NO AND NO. FRONT
OF THE MOTIONS ON THIS RIGHT?
AND I GET EMOTIONAL ON THIS
BILL. SO DID I. SEVERAL VOICES.
WHAT SOME OF IT, I THINK, OKAY,
I AM SO SORRY. ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
WILSON AND ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
RAMA. THAT WE HAD AGUIAR-CURRY
CURRY, I, DIXON SAID NO BURNER.
FOR JACO, CHICO. I RAMOS BROUGH,
SIRE. EVA'S WALDRON. WILSON.
WILSON. I OKAY? THAT NUMBER THAT
BILL NEEDS MORE VOTES. THE BILL
IS ON CALL. OKAY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S TEAM WOULD YOU
LIKE TO START WITH THIS SECOND?
YES UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
MADAM CHAIR VERY MUCH.
APPRECIATE YOUR IN YOUR
COMMITTEE'S HELP ON ABC. 7 96
WOULD BE 7 96 IS VERY SIMPLE
CURRENTLY IN ORDER TO BUILD IN
EIGHT EU OR TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF
MANY OF THE STREAMLINING, UM,
BENEFITS OF AWS IN THE STATE YOU
NEED TO HAVE YOU NEED TO BE AN
OWNER OCCUPANT OF THE PROPERTY.
THIS WOULD REMOVE THAT OWNER
OCCUPANCY REQUIREMENT WOULD
REMOVE THAT SUNSET AND WE THINK
THAT THIS WILL REALLY OPEN UP
MORE OPPORTUNITIES FREE TO USE
GIVE MORE HOUSING BUILT. THE
BILL'S GOT NO OPPOSITION RESPECT
FOR HOURS, FIVE VOTE ON A B
79976. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON
. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK
WITNESS AND SUPPORT? ABSOLUTELY
ABSOLUTELY. AFTERNOON MADAM
CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE.
MY NAME IS JORDAN, BANANA,
CASSAVA. HARD LEGISLATIVE
ADVOCATE FOR CALIFORNIAN, BE
HERE IS A PROUD SPONSOR TO SPEAK
IN SUPPORT OF 89 76, CALIFORNIA
VISIT STATEWIDE ORGANIZATION OF
OVER 80,000 NEIGHBORS DEDICATED
TO MAKING OUR STATE AN
AFFORDABLE PLACE TO LIVE WORK
AND RAISE A FAMILY FOR ALL
CALIFORNIANS. ESPECIALLY DOING
UNITS. 80 US OUR HOMES ARE BUILT
ON EXISTING PROPERTY TO EXPAND
THE SUPPLY OF HOUSING, WHILE 80
YEARS CAN BE BUILT IN BOTH
SINGLE AND MULTI FAMILY
NEIGHBORHOODS, THEY CANNOT BE SO
AS SEPARATE UNIONS, MEANING THEY
ARE MOST OFTEN USED AS LOWER
COSTS FOR UNTIL PLAYING A KEY
ROLE IN INCREASING THE
AFFORDABLE HOUSING SUPPLY
NEIGHBORHOODS ACROSS CALIFORNIA.
NOT ONLY THE 80 YEARS OFFER
AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR THE
TENANT, BUT THEY ALSO CREATE
STABILITY FOR HOMEOWNERS AS
WELL. FOR MANY, THIS RENTAL
INCOME CAN SERVE AS IMPORTANT
SOURCE OF FINANCIAL SECURITY, IN
MANY CASES, PROVIDING STABILITY
FOR LAUREN INCOME AND L D
HOMEOWNERS ARE CURRENTLY
ACCORDING TO RESEARCH FROM THE
UC BERKELEY TURNER CENTER. 80
YEARS PRODUCED MORE AFFORDABLE
HOMES TYPICALLY OCCUPIED BY LOW
INCOME FAMILIES AND INDIVIDUALS
. 89 76 IS A STRAIGHTFORWARD
SOLUTION BY PERMANENT EXPAND,
EXTENDING THE SPENDING THE LAW.
THE EXISTING LAW, WHICH
ELIMINATE OWNER OCCUPANCY
PROVISION. THIS MEASURE ENSURES
THAT THESE NEW UNITS WILL
CONTINUE TO REMAIN AFFORDABLE
FOR BOTH THE RENTERS AND THE
HOMEOWNERS. A D. U S ARE A
PROVEN TOOL TO ADDRESS
CALIFORNIA'S HOUSING SHORTAGE
AND WE SHOULD DO ALL WE CAN TO
ENSURE THEIR CONTINUED SUCCESS.
WE BELIEVE THIS MEASURE STRIKES
THE RIGHT BALANCE IS FOR THESE
REASONS. RESPECTFULLY REQUEST
YOUR SUPPORT. OR 89, 76. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. ARE THERE ANY
OTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT?
MICHAEL LANGUAGE, BURNS STRONG
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. OKAY SAYING
NO OTHERS ARE THERE ANY
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION? THING
THAT ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS
THAT THE COMMITTEE
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S DIXON THAT'S
GOOD COMING UP A REGULAR THING?
OKAY, I THINK A D U S ARE
FANTASTIC. AND MANY PERMITS ARE
GOING THROUGH THE EXPEDITED
PROCESS IN MY LOCAL COMMUNITIES
, HOWEVER, WHEN THIS WAS GOING
THROUGH MANY COMMUNITIES
CONSTITUENTS OF MINE WHEN I WAS
ON THE CITY COUNCIL WERE
CONCERNED THAT THESE UNITS WOULD
BECOME SHORT TERM RENTALS AND
THE FACT THAT THERE WAS A THREE
YEAR BANDS PERIOD. IT WAS A
RELIEF. SO NOW WE'RE GONNA GO
THROUGH THIS ALL OVER AGAIN. AND
THE CONCERN, UH, THAT THEY
BECOME. IT'S NOT PERMANENT
RENTALS I LONG TERM RENTALS ARE
FINE SHORT TERM RENTALS. ARE A
PROBLEM, ESPECIALLY TO COASTAL
COMMUNITIES. IS THERE ANYTHING
WE CAN DO ABOUT THIS? I
APOLOGIZE. I'M PRETTY SURE WHAT
I DID MY ORIGINAL BILL DOING A
LOT OF THE STREAMLINING WE HAD
PROVISIONS. RESTRICTING THE
AMOUNT OF SHORT TERM RENTAL USE
, SO THAT WAS DEFINITELY AN
ISSUE WHEN I DID YOU KNOW, ONE
OF MY ORIGINAL STREAMLINING FOR
FIVE YEARS AGO, SO I BELIEVE
THAT'S ALREADY IN EXISTING LAW.
SO I WILL DOUBLE CHECK FOR YOU,
THOUGH, AND THAT WOULD BE MY
ONLY CONCERN. ALRIGHT BUT AGAIN,
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WAS HAS
ALWAYS BEEN A CONCERN. AND THE
WHOLE POINT OF BUILDING A TUS
WASN'T TO CREATE SHORT TERM
RENTALS. IT WAS TO CREATE LONG
TERM RENTALS TO CREATE HOUSING
FOR EXTENDED FAMILY. YES
ALRIGHT, SO WE COULD TALK
FURTHER. THANK YOU SO MUCH. GET
BACK TO YOU THE DETAILS. GOOD.
THANK YOU. OKAY. ARE THERE ANY
OTHER QUESTIONS? SAYING NONE
ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MOTION BY
ASSEMBLING REMEMBER WILSON. IT'S
LIKE GOODBYE SOMEWHERE BRAHMAS.
WHICH IS YOU LIKE TO CLOSE, JUST
RESPECT FOR US FOREVER. THANK
YOU. YOU'VE BECOME A CHAMPION IN
THE US. WE APPRECIATE ALL THE
WORK YOU'VE DONE ON THESE, UH,
IN YOUR TIME IN THE ASSEMBLY,
AND I AM PLEASED TO SUPPORT YOUR
BILL. TODAY THE MOTIONS DO PASS
SECRETARY PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
CURRY CURRY, I DIXON 40 VOTING
BURNER. CHICO I. RAMOS RAMOS, I
RIVAS WALDRON WILSON. WILSON. I
OKAY, THAT BILL NEEDS MORE VOTES
AND THE BILL IS ON CALL. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. REMEMBER? ALL
RIGHT. LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S BAINES'S. HERE
I FILE NUMBER FIVE. A B 892. MM
HMM. PROCEED WHEN YOU'RE READY,
QUÊ. THANK YOU. CHAIR REMEMBERS
, UM, PROUD TO BE HERE. A B 8 92
IS A SPECIFICALLY A DISTRICT
BILL THAT SPECIFIES THAT CURRENT
COUNTY HOSPITAL AUTHORITY AND
ITS ASSOCIATED ENTITIES ARE
SUBJECT TO ADMIRERS. MILLIONS
BROWN ACT, THE RALPH M. BROWN
ACT AND THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC
RECORDS ACT, CURRENT COUNTY WAS
AUTHORIZED TO CREATE THE COLONEL
COUNTY HOSPITAL AUTHORITY BY
ENABLING LEGISLATION PASSED IN
2014 AND 2015. THIS CHANGE WAS
CRITICAL TO ENSURE THE LONG TERM
FINANCIAL HEALTH OF KERN'S ONLY
PUBLIC HOSPITAL, WHICH HAS
SERVED THE COUNTY SINCE ITS
INCEPTION IN 18 67. WHILE THIS
NEW GOVERNANCE STRUCTURE HAS
CREATED MANY NEW OPPORTUNITIES,
IT HAS ALSO CREATED SOME NEW
CHALLENGES, ENSURING THE LONG
TERM HEALTH OF CURRENT MEDICAL
IS A PARTICULAR IMPORTANCE TO ME
AS IT IS A HOSPITAL WHERE I
COMPLETED MY RESIDENCY AFTER
MEDICAL SCHOOL. IN ADDITION, IT
WAS PROVIDED ME MY RESIDENT. MY
RESEARCH ASSISTANT HOURS MY
MEDICAL STUDENT HOURS AND MY
RESIDENCY TRAINING HOURS SPENT A
TOTAL OF 11 YEARS AT THAT
HOSPITAL, PROVIDING GIVING BACK
TO MY COMMUNITY. I KNOW HOW
IMPORTANT CURRENT MEDICAL IS TO
THE MOST UNDERSERVED RESIDENTS
IN CURRENT COUNTY AS I
PERSONALLY HAVE SEEN IT AS A
PHYSICIAN, PROVIDING HEALTHCARE
THERE. THE HOSPITAL HAS A MEDIC
AL CASELOAD NORTH OF 70% AND IT
IS ALSO OUR REGIONS ONLY LEVEL
TWO TRAUMA CENTER. LOSING
CURRENT MEDICAL WOULD MEAN
LOSING LIVES AND AS A CLOSURE OF
MADEIRA COMMUNITY HOSPITAL HAS
SHOWN US THE SAN JOAQUIN VALLEY
CANNOT AFFORD TO LOSE A SINGLE
HOSPITAL CLINIC OR DOCTOR. THE
VALLEY IS ALREADY ONE OF THE
LARGEST HEALTH PROFESSIONAL
SHORTAGE AREAS IN THE NATION IN
OUR RESIDENTS NEED MORE
HEALTHCARE INFRASTRUCTURE, NOT
LESS. WHILE ALREADY A GOOD BILL
88 92 ALSO REPRESENTS A
LEGISLATIVE VEHICLE THAT WILL BE
USED TO REFLECT A COMPROMISE AND
CONSENSUS BUILD BUILDING PROCESS
THAT CURRENT MEDICAL AND S. C I
U HAVE AGREED TO WORK THROUGH
WITH MY OFFICE. WE WILL EXPLORE
OPPORTUNITIES TO OPERATE THE
HOSPITAL WITH MORE PUBLIC
TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY
, WHILE ALSO PUTTING CURRENT
MEDICAL IN THE BEST POSSIBLE
POSITION TO GROW AND I
FINANCIALLY HEALTHY WAY. I WANT
TO THANK AS CI YOU AND KERN
MEDICAL FOR BOTH AGREEING TO
PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROCESS,
WHICH IS ALREADY PROVING TO BE
VERY PRODUCTIVE AND I'M VERY
HONORED AS A PAST PRESIDENT OF
THE HOSPITAL TO BE ABLE TO
NEGOTIATE BETWEEN, UM WITH ME
TODAY IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL IS
BETH ON BEHALF OF CI. WELCOME
BETH. HI CAN GOOD AFTERNOON,
MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS. BETH
MONO SKI. THE STU, CALIFORNIA
PRIVILEGED TO BE HERE TODAY. IT
OFFERED US SOME BRIEF FROM MARKS
ON WHY, AS YOU CALIFORNIA IS
PROUD SPONSOR OF A B 892 1ST.
I'D LIKE TO START BY
ACKNOWLEDGING DR BAINES AND HER
STAFF FOR JUMPING RIGHT IN AND
WORKING WITH US TO BRING FORWARD
SOME IMPORTANT CONVERSATIONS
REGARDING THE CURRENT COUNTY
HOSPITAL AUTHORITY. BUT A DECADE
AGO, LEGISLATIVE BODY REALLY
TOOK THE IMPORTANT ACTION OF
ESTABLISHING THIS AUTHORITY K C
H. A. IT IS A PUBLIC ENTITY WITH
SOLE PURPOSE OF MAINTAINING AND
OPERATIONALIZE INCURRED MEDICAL
CENTER NETWORK OF OUTPATIENT
CLINICS AND SERVICES. THE
AUTHORITY IS CRITICAL TO THE
HEALTH OF CURRENT COUNTY AS
DECEMBER JUST SPOKE TO IN THE
YEARS SINCE THE AUTHORITY WAS
ESTABLISHED THE BOARD SEATED AND
WE HAD TO SAY YOU HAVE STARTED
TO SEE WHERE IMPROVEMENTS ARE
NEEDED IMPROVEMENTS TO GUARANTEE
GREATER PUBLIC TRANSPARENCY AND
ACCOUNTABILITY BETWEEN THE
AUTHORITY, THE PUBLIC AND ITS
WORKFORCE. THIS BILL BEFORE YOU
TODAY IS FOCUSED ON REAFFIRMING
AND STRENGTHENING LANGUAGE AND
THE ENABLING STATUTE REGARDING
THE BROWN ACT, CPR A AND M M B A
CLARIFYING THEY APPLY TO ALL
ENTITIES CONTROLLED, OWNED IN
ADMINISTERED BY THE AUTHORITY OR
FUNDED BY THE AUTHORITY. AND
WITH YOUR IVO TODAY, AS NOTED,
YOU'LL NOT ONLY BE MOVING THIS
POLICY FORWARD BUT THE BROADER
CONVERSATION THAT HAS BEEN
STARTED AGAIN DOCTOR BRAINS AS
SHE JUST ACKNOWLEDGE HIS GREATLY
CREATED GRACIOUSLY CREATED A
SPACE OF DIALOGUE BETWEEN S E I
U AND THE AUTHORITY. THAT WE
HOPE WILL LEAD TO ADDRESSING
ADDITIONAL POLICY CONCEPTS
THROUGH THIS BILL VEHICLE. FOR
THESE REASONS, WE ARE PROUD TO
SPONSOR A B 92 AND THE SEEKER. I
VOTE TODAY. THANK YOU. DO WE
HAVE ANY COMMENTS AND SUPPORT
PLEASE? THEY SPEAKERS AND
SUPPORT PLEASE COME FORWARD. SAY
NONE IN OPPOSITION. PLEASE COME
FORWARD, AND HE COMMENTS AT THE
COMMITTEE LEVEL. NO ALRIGHT.
YOU'RE CLOSING COMMENT.
THANKFULLY, I RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR I VOTE. AND DO WE HAVE A
MOTION? BYE, MR RAMOS AND WILSON
WILSON, PLEASE. THANK YOU. ALL
RIGHT. SECRETARY. PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL. DIXON NOT NOT VOTING
VOTING. BURNER. PACHECO. CHACO?
AYE, RAMOS. RAMOS SIDE, RIVAS
WALDRON. WILSON. WILSON. I. HERE
WE GO. OKAY. THIS BILL NEEDS
MORE VOTES, AND THE BILL IS ON
CALL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ALRIGHT WE WILL GO TO A B 894.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S FRIEDMAN. GOOD
AFTERNOON CHAIR AND MEMBERS. I
ACCEPT THE SUGGESTED COMMITTEE
AMENDMENTS ON PAGE FIVE, SECTION
NINE OF THE ANALYSIS. I
UNDERSTAND THAT THESE AMENDMENTS
WILL BE ADOPTED IN THE HOUSING
COMMITTEE. I WANT TO THANK THE
COMMITTEE AND THEIR STAFF FOR
THEIR WORK ON THE BILL. THERE
ARE 15 MILLION PARKING SPACES IN
THE BAY AREA ENOUGH THAT IT IF
THEY WERE PUT END TO END THEY
WOULD STRETCH AROUND THE WORLD
2.3 TIMES, LOS ANGELES IS ALMOST
SIX MILLION PARKING SPACES OR
1.5 FOR EVERY RESIDENT,
INCLUDING CHILDREN. OFTEN WHAT
APPEARS AS A PARKING SHORTAGES
ACTUALLY A SHORTAGE OF PARKING
THAT'S ACCESSIBLE TO THOSE WHO
NEED IT. JURISDICTIONS
FREQUENTLY REQUIRE CONSTRUCTION
OF NEW PARKING, EVEN THOUGH
THERE'S ABUNDANT, UNUSED PARKING
NEARBY. ACCESS PARKING COMES AT
A HIGH ECONOMIC, ENVIRONMENTAL
AND SOCIAL COSTS. PARKING IS
OFTEN CONSIDERED FREE BUT THE
ACTUAL COST OF BUILDING AND
MAINTAINING PARKING SHOWS UP AS
HIGHER COSTS FOR GOODS AND
SERVICES AS WELL AS HIGHER RENT
RENTAL COSTS AND HOUSING COSTS
FOR RESIDENTS. PARKING ALSO
MAKES WALKING AND BIKING BETWEEN
DESTINATIONS FURTHER AND OFTEN
MORE DANGEROUS IMPACTS THAT FALL
DISPROPORTIONATELY ON THE POOR
PEOPLE OF COLOR AND SENIORS.
ACCESS PARKING IT CREATES HEAT
ISLANDS REDUCES GROUNDWATER
RECHARGE AND INCREASES THE
AMOUNT THAT PEOPLE DRIVE.
HOWEVER MANY OF US LOOK AROUND
OUR COMMUNITIES AND SEE THAT OUR
PARKING LOTS ARE OFTEN EMPTY,
ESPECIALLY AT PREDICTABLE TIMES
OF THE DAY OR WEEK, WHICH
CREATES AN EXTRAORDINARY
OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE THAT
PARKING WITH OTHER USES AND
AVOID UNNECESSARY PARKING
CONSTRUCTION. THIS BILL IS ABOUT
SHARED PARKING SHARE. PARKING
CAN PRODUCE PROMOTE ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT BY MAKING BUSINESSES
VIABLE AND MORE CIRCUMSTANCES
REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF LAND NEEDED
FOR PARKING IN THE COST OF
MAINTENANCE AND ACCELERATE THE
PRODUCTION OF HOUSING IN PLACES
WHERE LAND IS CONSTRAINED. YET
MANY JURISDICTIONS DO NOT ALLOW
FOR PROPERTY OWNERS TO SHARE
AVAILABLE PARKING WITH ADJACENT
DEVELOPERS OR NEARBY USES A B 8
94 DESIGNATE. CIRCUMSTANCES WERE
SHARED. PARKING SHOULD BE
ALLOWED AS A WAY TO MEET PARKING
NEEDS WITHOUT CREATING
BURDENSOME EXPENSES FOR
BUSINESSES AND RESIDENTS,
INCLUDING REQUIRING PUBLIC
AGENCIES TO ALLOW UNDERUTILIZED
PARKING SPACES BE SHARED WITH
THE PUBLIC, PRIVATE ENTITY OR
OTHER USERS. REQUIRING PUBLIC
AGENCIES TO ALLOW SHARED PARKING
TO COUNT TOWARDS PARKING
REQUIREMENTS IN SPECIFIED
CIRCUMSTANCES. NOW I HAVE A
DISTRICT OFFICE IN BURBANK, AND
MY OFFICE IS IN A BUILDING THAT
HAS A PARKING LOT THAT IT SHARES
WITH THE NEXT BUILDING OVER THAT
PARKING LOT, EVEN DURING PEAK
TIMES IS ABSOLUTELY EMPTY. AND
YET IF A BUSINESS WAS TO COME
INTO DOWNTOWN BURBANK OR IF
SOMEBODY WANTED TO BUILD AN
APARTMENT BUILDING NEXT TO THIS
EMPTY PARKING LOT, THE CITY
WOULD REQUIRE THEM TO ADD
HUNDREDS. OF NEW PARKING SPACES
. IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO
PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS WHO KNOW
HOW MUCH PARKING THEIR CUSTOMERS
NEED BETTER THAN THE CITY. IT
DOESN'T MAKE SENSE
ENVIRONMENTALLY, WITH ALL THE
CONCRETE AND THE AGGREGATE THAT
WE'RE SHIPPING ALL AROUND THE
STATE, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE
FROM A SMART LAND YEARS
PERSPECTIVE, IT HELPS ABSOLUTELY
NOBODY TESTIFYING AND SUPPORT ON
BEHALF OF OUR SPONSORS, SPURS
MICHAEL LANE, ALSO IN ATTENDANCE
OF STUART COHEN, A CONSULTANT
WITH A SPUR WHO'S HERE TO ANSWER
TECHNICAL QUESTIONS, AND I WOULD
REQUEST AND I VOTE ON A VERY
COMMON SENSE MEASURE. GREAT.
MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS. MICHAEL
EMMITSBURG. THIS IS REALLY A
LIGHT TOUCH BILL. THE INTENT IS
REALLY TO PROVIDE A FRAMEWORK
AND SUPPORT FOR LOCAL
JURISDICTIONS. OFTENTIMES
DIVERSITY OF STAFF CAPACITY AND
RESOURCE AT THE LOCAL LEVEL, BUT
OVER TIME, THE URBAN LAND
INSTITUTE KNOWN AS YOU, ALLY HAS
DEVELOPED BEST PRACTICES
ACTUALLY HAVE A HANDBOOK. THAT'S
OUT NOW ITS THIRD EDITION OVER
THE LAST 20 YEARS, REALLY
IDENTIFYING WITH THOSE BEST
PRACTICES ARE AND CREATING DATA
DRIVEN AT THE LOCAL LEVEL TO
DETERMINE WHAT IS AN UNDER
UNDERUTILIZED PARKING SPACE OR
LOT, AND THEN HOW MUCH COULD WE
USE TO SHARE THAT WITH OTHER
USES, AND THAT'S REALLY DRIVEN
AT THE LOCAL LEVEL WITH THESE
BIT METHODOLOGIES, AND WE WANT
TO PROVIDE THAT FRAMEWORK ACROSS
THE STATE SO THAT WE CAN REALLY
BEST UTILIZED THE SPACES THAT WE
ALREADY HAVE, WITHOUT FORCING
PROJECTS TO DEVELOP ADDITIONAL
PARKING OFTENTIMES GOES UNUSED.
DID YOU WANT WANTED TO? BECAUSE?
WELL NO ALRIGHT. ANY COMMENTS
SPEAKERS IN IN SUPPORT? ROGER
DICKINSON ON BEHALF OF CIVIC
WELL IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
LAUREN DAY, VALENCIA ON BEHALF
OF AMERICAN PLANNING ASSOCIATION
AND SUPPORTING THINGS. MADAM
CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE,
JORDAN PLAN AND CARVE A HARD ON
BEHALF OF CALIFORNIAN B AND
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS
MIA KONG AND I'M WITH THE
COUNCIL OF INFO BUILDERS. ALSO
IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. COMMENTS AND OPPOSITION.
PLEASE COME FORWARD. SEE NONE UP
TO THE COMMITTEE. ANY COMMENTS?
YES. FAMILY MEMBER BECAUSE,
CHICO THANK YOU, UH SO THANK YOU
TO THE AUTHOR. I KNOW THIS IS A
NARROW SCOPE BECAUSE ONLY SHARED
PARKING, BUT I AM ALWAYS MINDFUL
OF PARKING SITUATIONS BECAUSE I
WAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CITY
COUNCIL AND ONE OF THE BIGGEST
COMPLAINTS THAT WE RECEIVED OUR
PARKING PEOPLE WOULD COMPLAIN
THAT THEY COULDN'T PARK IN FRONT
OF THEIR HOMES THAT THEY
COULDN'T FIND PARKING ON THEIR
STREETS. WE HAD ONE HUGE ISSUE
WITH THE BUSINESS OWNER NOT
HAVING ENOUGH PARKING. AND SO
THE RESIDENTS COMPLAINED THAT
EVERYONE WHO WAS GOING TO THAT,
UH, TACO IS A TACO STAND GOING
TO THE TACO PLACE WAS GOING IN
PARKING IN NEIGHBORHOODS,
CREATING A MESS. UH, PLAYING
LOUD MUSIC, SO I'M ALWAYS VERY
MINDFUL OF PARKING. BUT I WILL
BE SUPPORTING THIS BILL BECAUSE
I KNOW IT'S UH, IT'S NARROW AND
SCOPE. UM BUT I DO ALWAYS HAVE,
UH, I'M ALWAYS MINDFUL AND, UM,
ABOUT PARKING ISSUES IN
DIFFERENT ESPECIALLY WHEN IT
COMES TO RESIDENTIAL
NEIGHBORHOODS. BUT I APPRECIATE
THE AUTHOR AND THIS BILL AND I
WILL BE SUPPORTING TODAY. THANK
YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS. I JUST
HAD ONE COMMENT DOESN'T HAVE TO
BE A REQUIREMENT. YOU CAN YOU
KNOW, JUST AS YOU WERE SAYING
ORGANIZATIONS ARE OUR CRIED IN
FRAMEWORKS FOR THIS DOESN'T HAVE
TO BE A CANOPY HIGHLIGHTS
SUGGESTED AND RECOMMENDED THE
LOCAL GOVERNMENT. THANK YOU FOR
THE QUESTION. WELL, LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS CAN ALREADY DO THIS
AND THEY'RE NOT DOING IT AND
IT'S EASIER FOR THEM QUITE
HONESTLY, TO CONTINUE THE STATUS
QUO TO KEEP PUTTING THE BURDEN
ON PRIVATE DEVELOPERS TO CREATE
MORE AND MORE PARKING AND JUST
TO THE POINT THAT WAS MADE
WHAT'S OFTEN FRUSTRATING TO
RESIDENTS IN MY COMMUNITY IS
THEY'LL GO LET'S SAY INTO OUR
DOWNTOWN AND THEY CAN'T FIND A
PARKING SPACE, BUT WE ALL KNOW
BUT THERE'S A DOZEN OFFICE
BUILDINGS THAT ARE ABSOLUTELY
EMPTY BECAUSE IT'S AFTER FIVE
O'CLOCK. AND SO WHAT? A BETTER
WAY OF PLANNING FOR OUR CITIES
TO MAKE ARRANGEMENTS THAT THE
RESIDENTS WHEN THEY'RE GOING OUT
TO EAT IN OUR DOWNTOWN CAN NOW
USE THOSE EMPTY OPTIONS
BUILDINGS BECAUSE WE'VE ENTERED
INTO A SHARED A COVENANT
INDEMNIFIED THEM, MAYBE ALLOWED
THEM TO MAKE REVENUE FROM DOING
THIS FOLLOWING BEST PRACTICES
FOR EVERYBODY'S BENEFIT. BUT
THESE ARE RESOURCES THAT WE'VE
INVESTED THAT THE DEVELOPERS AND
THE CITIES HAVE INVESTED
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN THAT TAKE
UP A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF LAND.
AND THEY'RE JUST, YOU KNOW, SOME
CITIES ARE DOING SOMETHING LIKE
THIS, BUT VERY FEW. SO WE THINK
THAT GIVEN THE LACK OF
AGGREGATE, THE LACK OF HOUSING
UH, THE BURDEN THIS PUTS ON
AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO HAVE TO
ADD ALL THIS PARKING AND WE HAVE
HEARD FROM DEVELOPERS TIME AND
TIME AGAIN AND HOUSING COMMITTEE
AND THIS COMMITTEE, I WOULD HAVE
BUILT THE BUILDING. BUT THOSE
PARKING REQUIREMENTS AT $60,000
A SPACE MAKE IT TO WHERE A DOZEN
PENCILS TO BE AN AFFORDABLE
BUILDING. BUT I'LL ALTERNATIVE
RIGHT AND, UH SO UH AS PARKING
CODES ARE UPDATED ACROSS THE
STATE AND MANY CITIES EITHER DO
IT FOR DISTRICT, AN AREA OR THE
CITYWIDE SHARED. PARKING IS
INCREASINGLY ALLOWED BECAUSE
IT'S NOW SEEN AS A COMMON SENSE.
I THINK FOR ALL THE REASONS
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S FREEMAN LAID
OUT BUT IT TAKES A LONG TIME.
OFTEN. IT'S 2030 YEARS BEFORE
CITY FULLY UPDATES THEIR PARKING
CODE, SO THIS JUST REALLY BRINGS
US UP TO WHAT'S REALLY
UNDERSTOOD AS A MODERN, BEST
PRACTICE ACROSS THE STATE, AND
JUST, UM TWO AND IT MAKES IT
ALLOWABLE. IT DOESN'T REQUIRE
ANYBODY TO DO ANYTHING, UH AT
ALL. IT JUST MAKES IT ALLOWABLE
AND JUST TO, UH ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
PACHECO'S INSTANCE. WHAT WILL
OFTEN HAPPEN IS I DON'T KNOW THE
EXACT GEOGRAPHY WHERE THIS TACO
STAND IS, BUT THERE'S A DECENT
CHANCE THAT WITHIN A BLOCK OR
TWO, THERE IS AN EMPTY PARKING
LOT, AN EMPTY PARKING LOT OF AN
OFFICE OF A DENTAL PLAN THAT
COULD BE ABLE TO SHARE THAT AND
THIS BILL WOULD MAKE IT
ALLOWABLE, UM, THAT IF IT WAS
UNDERUTILIZED, LET'S SAY IT'S IN
THE EVENING. UM CURRENTLY MANY
CITIES MIGHT SAY WELL, THIS USED
WAS NOT IN YOUR, YOU KNOW,
ORIGINAL DESIGNATED ENTITLEMENT
. UM THIS WOULD ALLOW THEM TO
ACTUALLY GAIN SOME FINANCIAL
BENEFIT WHILE EASING THE PARKING
PROBLEMS IN YOUR COMMUNITY. THE
ONLY COMMENT I WOULD MAKE IS ALL
CITIES ARE ALIKE. I REPRESENT
THE COASTAL CITIES AND THERE'S
NOT ENOUGH PARKING FOR RESIDENTS
, MUCH LESS THAN ANYTHING ELSE,
AND CITIES CAN TAKE THE CREATIVE
APPROACH. AS I KNOW MANY CITIES
HAVE DONE FOR RESTAURANTS IN THE
ERA OF AH, UBER AND LYFT. AH
CITIES HAVE RELAXED THEIR
PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR
RESTAURANTS FOR THAT VERY REASON
AND TO PROVIDE THE PICK UP AND
DROP OFF PLACES AND THEREFORE
REDUCE THEIR PARKING
REQUIREMENTS. SO THAT IS BEING
DONE. I DON'T KNOW IF IT TAKES
30 YEARS TO DO THAT. I SEE
CITIES RESPOND MUCH MORE
QUICKLY. OKAY ALL RIGHT. WELL,
THANK YOU FOR THAT. SHOULD WE
CALL THE ROLL? OH, I'M SORRY. GO
AHEAD. I WANT TO ADD UPON THAT
BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S ONLY FOR
LIKE, UM PARKING LOT CENTER
UNDERUTILIZED AND THIS, THERE
WOULD BE AN AGREEMENT BECAUSE I
NOTICED THAT'S ONE OF THE
AMENDMENTS THAT IT WOULD BE AN
AGREEMENT. SO IT'S BEEN AN
AGREEMENT BETWEEN THAT BUSINESS
OWNER AND WHOEVER OWNS A PARKING
LOT CORRECT. WHICH I THINK IS
GOOD. WE'RE NOT FORCING THEM
PRIVATE. NOBODY IS BEING FORCED,
OKAY? INDEMNIFICATION IS THAT
PART OF THE BILL? OR THAT WOULD
JUST BE AN ENCOURAGEMENT BILL.
IT'S JUST THE PRIVATE PROPERTY
OWNERS COULD COME UP BECAUSE
WE'VE RUN INTO THAT SITUATION
AND BEACH COMMUNITY. WHERE THERE
TO YOUR POINT, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY
CORRECT. THERE'S A BANK PARKING
LOT IS CLOSED AT NIGHT. THERE'S
NO RESTAURANT AVAILABLE PARKING,
BUT IT'S THERE'S LEGAL ISSUES,
YOU KNOW, BUT THE DEVELOPERS
CAN. THEY CAN WORK THAT OUT
THEMSELVES. YEAH OKAY, OFFERING
THAT IS NOT A BAD IDEA. OKAY
ALRIGHT, COLTON STATEMENT. TAKE
IT AT THAT, AND I WOULD
APPRECIATE THE VOTE SO WE CAN
CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION. MOVE
THE BILL, DO WE HAVE A MOTION?
OKAY ALL RIGHT. IF YOU WOULD
CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE. DIXON NO,
PLEASE. THANKS DIXON KNOW
BERNARD CHICO! CHICO I. RAMOS
RAMOS SIDE, RIVAS WALDRON.
WILSON I AGUIAR-CURRY. THE BILL
NEEDS MORE VOTES IN THE
BUILDING. THE BILL NEEDS MORE
VOTES THAN IT IS ON CALL. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. WE'RE ON TO ITEM
NUMBER 10, A B 9 10. DID WE MISS
SOMETHING ELSE? EXCUSE ME, MISS
SOMETHING VERY FAMILIAR. ONE
MORE ON 9 30 ASSEMBLY BILL 9 30
. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS. ACCEPT THE SUGGESTED
COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS. STARTING
ON PAGE FIVE, SECTION NINE OF
THE ANALYSIS. I UNDERSTAND THAT
THESE AMENDMENTS WILL BE ADOPTED
IN THE JOBS, ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMY
COMMITTEE. I WANT TO THANK THE
COMMITTEE AND THE COMMITTEE
STAFF FOR THEIR WORK ON THE
BILL. MANY CITIES IN CALIFORNIA
HAVE LONGSTANDING AND AMBITIOUS
GOALS TO REDUCE VEHICLE MILES
TRAVELED IN GREENHOUSE GAS
EMISSIONS IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE
CLIMATE, EQUITY AND QUALITY OF
LIFE GOALS FOR THE STATE'S
RESIDENTS. SP 3 75 BY DARRELL
STEINBERG IN 2008 LAUNCHED A
PROCESS FOR REGIONAL PER CAPITA
GREENHOUSE GAS REDUCTIONS MORE
AND MORE RECENTLY, THE
CALIFORNIA AIR RESOURCES BOARD
HAS PROPOSED IN ITS 2022 SCOPING
PLAN UPDATED ACHIEVING A PER
CAPITA VEHICLE. MILES TRAVELED
REDUCTION OF AT LEAST 25% BELOW
2019 LEVELS BY 2030. AND 30%
BELOW 2019 LEVELS BY 2045 IN
ORDER TO MEET THE STATE'S
CLIMATE GOALS. YET THE STATE IS
MOVING IN THE WRONG DIRECTION ON
VM T. MANY LOCAL GOVERNMENTS
WOULD LIKE TO BOOST INVESTMENT
IN INFRASTRUCTURE AND TRANSIT
ORIENTED INFILL DEVELOPMENT,
HOWEVER, LACK THEY LACK ACCESS
FUNDING. LIKE ACCESS TO FUNDING
AND PROJECTS ARE ECONOMICALLY
FEASIBLE ARE INFEASIBLE TO DO A
LACK OF AVAILABLE LAND, HIGH
INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS AND
EXPENSIVE AND RISKY ENTITLEMENT
PROCESSES. IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S
REALLY HARD AND EXPENSIVE TO
BUILD INFILL HOUSING IN THE
AREAS THAT NEED IT, THE MOST OUR
URBAN AREAS. 89 30 WOULD PERMIT
TWO OR MORE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO
JOINTLY FORM A REINVESTMENT
INFRASTRUCTURE FOR SUSTAINABLE
AND EQUITABLE CALIFORNIA
DISTRICT TO UNLOCK TAX INCREMENT
FINANCING FOR INFRASTRUCTURE AND
EQUITABLE DEVELOPMENT IN
LOCATION EFFICIENT AREAS.
JURISDICTIONS THAT OPT IN AND
THIS IS A VOLUNTARY OPT IN TO
FORM WHAT WE'RE CALLING A RISE
DISTRICT AND HAVE STATE APPROVED
RISE PLANS, THE STATE WILL
PROVIDE STATE SALES TAX
INCREMENT. AND REVOLVING LOANS
TO JUMPSTART EQUITABLE
DEVELOPMENT AND INVESTMENTS IN
INFRASTRUCTURE. A B 9 30, THE
RISE ACT WILL ALIGN PLANNING AND
INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENTS TO
REFOCUS GROWTH TOWARDS COMMUNITY
CENTERS WHILE REDUCING CAR
DEPENDENCE, LOWER CARBON
EMISSIONS AND ENCOURAGE ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT AND CLIMATE.
RESILIENT HOUSING PRODUCTION
NEAR TRANSIT AND WALKABLE
BICKELL COMMUNITIES. TESTIFYING
ME, A KING, SENIOR VICE
PRESIDENT WITH RELATED
CALIFORNIA AND DIRECTOR OF THE
COUNCIL OF INFILL BUILDERS, AND
ROGER DICKINSON, POLICY DIRECTOR
WITH CIVIC WELL AND I
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR
THOUGHTFUL CONSIDERATION AND I
VOTE. HI I AM MIA KONG, AND I'M
A FOUNDING BOARD MEMBER, ALSO
SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT WITH
RELATED CALIFORNIA AND FOUNDING
BOARD MEMBER FOR THE COUNCIL OF
INFILL. BUILDERS WERE PROUD CO
SPONSOR OF THIS BILL, AND WE
THINK SOMEBODY MEMBER FRIEDMAN
FOR HER LEADERSHIP. UM I'VE BEEN
DEVELOPING AFFORDABLE HOUSING
FOR THE LAST 26 YEARS IN
CALIFORNIA HAVE BUILT ABOUT 2500
UNITS STATEWIDE, THE COMMON
THEME FOR EVERY SINGLE
DEVELOPMENT IS THAT THERE IS NOT
ENOUGH MONEY FOR INFRASTRUCTURE.
MANY LOCATIONS THAT ARE TRANSIT
ORIENTED OFTEN DO NOT HAVE THE
TYPE OF INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WILL
SUPPORT THE DENSER NEW HOUSING
SO THAT REQUIRES AN AFFORDABLE
HOUSING TO SPEND MILLIONS AND
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO IMPROVE
THE LOCAL INFRASTRUCTURE THAT
BENEFITS BEYOND JUST THE HOUSING
DEVELOPMENT. IT ACTUALLY
IMPROVES THE PUBLIC
INFRASTRUCTURE FOR MANY OF THE
NEIGHBORHOODS. AS A RESULT, THIS
IS A BARRIER TO NEW HOUSING,
HAVING TO PROVIDE THE
INFRASTRUCTURE FUNDING AND
CAPITAL INVESTMENTS IS A MAJOR
BARRIER TO THE PRODUCTION OF
NEW, AFFORDABLE HOUSING
STATEWIDE, ESPECIALLY IN THE
TRANSIT ORIENTED AREAS IN OUR
STATE THAT HAVE BEEN PROVEN
UNDER SCS THAT NEW DEVELOPMENT
WILL REDUCE VM T. SO IN THE VERY
PLACES WE NEED TO INVEST IN
AFFORDABLE HOUSING. MOST LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS LACK THE RESOURCES
TO DO REGIONAL INVESTMENTS IN
INFRASTRUCTURE. AS WELL AS LACK
INVESTMENTS OR BLACK CAPITAL TO
INVEST IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
MAYBE 9 30 FOR THE FIRST TIME
WILL ALIGN AFFORDABLE HOUSING,
PLANNING AND FINANCE WITH
INFRASTRUCTURE PLANNING. THE
RISE DISTRICT IS AIMED TO
PROVIDE 50% OF THE FUNDING
TOWARDS SUPPORTIVE
INFRASTRUCTURE. THAT'S DEDICATED
NEW MONEY FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS
TO HAVE FOR INFRASTRUCTURE THAT
THEN WOULD UNLOCK DEVELOPMENT
POTENTIAL IN PRIVATELY OWNED
LAND OR LAND ALL AROUND THE
HANDS IT AREAS UNDERUTILIZED
LAND THOSE PARKING LOTS NEXT TO
TACOS TACO STANDS, THESE AREAS
COULD BE UNLOCKED FOR HOUSING.
THIS PLAN ALLOWS M. P O S TO
HAVE A POSITION TO, UM, TO ALSO
CERTIFY THAT THESE RISE
DISTRICTS ARE IN COMPLIANT WITH
ADOPTED SCS IS THEREBY SHOWING
THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY ALIGN OUR
RESOURCES AROUND AFFORDABLE
HOUSING AND INFRASTRUCTURE. UM
SINCE, UH, THIS THE INVESTMENT
IN INFRASTRUCTURE IS VERY
DIFFICULT TO DO BECAUSE YOU ARE
RELYING ON ON FUNDING THAT OFTEN
, LOCAL GOVERNMENTS WILL JUST
REQUIRE DEVELOPERS TO FUND SO BY
HAVING THE RISE DISTRICT WERE
COLLECTIVELY WITH AFFORDABLE
HOUSING, FINANCE AGENCIES AND
TRANSIT AGENCIES. WE CAN BEGIN
TO ALIGN ENTITIES AND THE LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS FEAR AND ALIGN THAT
WITH PLANNING SO THAT WE CAN
MEET OUR STATE'S GOALS OF
INCREASING AFFORDABLE HOUSING
PRODUCTION. AND REDUCING VEHICLE
. MILES TRAVELED SO THAT WE CAN
PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND
LOCATION EFFICIENT AREAS, AND I
STRONGLY URGE THIS COMMITTEE'S I
VOTE FOR THIS BILL. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. YES, SIR. MADAM VICE
CHAIR AND MEMBERS. I'M ROGER
DICKINSON, POLICY DIRECTOR FOR
CIVIC WELL. PREVIOUSLY THE LOCAL
GOVERNMENT COMMISSION.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S FRIEDMAN HAS
DESCRIBED THE BILL WELL, AND WE
CERTAINLY WANT TO THANK HER FOR
HER LEADERSHIPS. HER LEADERSHIP
I'VE BEEN DEEPLY INVOLVED IN
EFFORTS TO INTEGRATE LAND USE
AND TRANSPORTATION FOR MULTIPLE
DECADES AS A COUNTY SUPERVISOR
AS A MEMBER OF THE ASSEMBLY. AND
AS A CITIZEN TO PROMOTE A
STRONGER ECONOMY, A HEALTHIER
ENVIRONMENT AND SUSTAINABLE
COMMUNITIES, INCLUDING AS A
PRINCIPAL CO AUTHOR OF SB 6 28
BY SENATOR BELL IN 2014, WHICH
AUTHORIZED THE CREATION OF
ENHANCED INFRASTRUCTURE
FINANCING DISTRICTS, OR E I F D
S A B 9 30 BUILDS ON THE CONCEPT
OF EI FDS BY ALLOWING LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS TO DEDICATE GROWTH
IN LOCAL PROPERTY TAX REVENUE TO
FINANCE INVESTMENTS. AND
INFRASTRUCTURE AND AFFORDABLE
HOUSING IN GEOGRAPHIC AREAS NEAR
TRANSIT AND LOCATION, EFFICIENT
AREAS. AND SO DOING MAYBE 9 30
PROVIDES A FORM OF VALUE CAPTURE
PROPERTIES THAT ENJOY ENHANCED
VALUE DUE TO THEIR PROXIMITY TO
TRANSIT OR THEIR DESIRABLE
LOCATION WILL HELP UNDERWRITE
THE COST OF PUBLIC INVESTMENT.
LOCAL GOVERNMENTS WILL BE ABLE
TO FOCUS THAT PUBLIC INVESTMENT
WHERE IT WILL YIELD THE GREATEST
RETURN IN FOSTERING THE
ELEMENTS. ON WHICH SUSTAINABLE
COMMUNITIES DEPEND A GREATER
SUPPLY OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING
DEVELOPMENT PATTERN THAT REDUCES
TRIPS AND GREENHOUSE GAS
EMISSIONS AND A SETTING THAT
PROVIDES WALK ABILITY AND SOCIAL
COHESION. 89 30 CAN JUMPSTART
PROJECTS THAT WILL BRING THESE
RESULTS THROUGH THE CONCEPT OF A
STATE REVOLVING LOAN PROGRAM AND
DOVETAIL WITH A B 2011 AND SB
SIX FROM LAST YEAR TO ACCELERATE
THE REBIRTH OF NEIGHBORHOODS AND
COMMUNITIES. 89 30 PROVIDES A
SIGNIFICANT NEW TOOL FOR LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS TO USE AS THEY
ENDEAVOR TO GROW SMARTER. I
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR I VOTE
ON 89 30. THANK THANK YOU.
COMMENTS AND SUPPORT, PLEASE.
MICHAEL LANE WHISPER CO SPONSOR
OF THIS BILL AS WELL AND STRONG
SUPPORT. THANK YOU ANY OTHER
COMMENTS AND SUPPORT? ALRIGHT.
ANY COMMENTS IN OPPOSITION?
WAIT. WE HAVE ONE. THANK YOU,
MADAM CHAIR, MADAM VICE CHAIR,
JEREMY SMITH. YOU'RE ON BEHALF
OF THE STATE BUILDING AND
CONSTRUCTION TRADES COUNCIL.
FIRST COUPLE POSITIVE COMMENTS
WE UNDERSTAND ARE GRATEFUL THAT
SENATOR EXCUSE ME, REMEMBER
FREEDOM AND HAS ADDED LANGUAGE
TO A HOUSING BILL THAT DOES
ENSURE THAT THE WORKERS BUILDING
THE HOUSING WILL NOT BE
FORGOTTEN. WE HAVE A QUIBBLE
WITH SOME OF THAT LANGUAGE. IT'S
IN THERE. UM BUT WE ARE GRATEFUL
FOR THE CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD
WITH OUR STAFF AND HER, UM,
ACTUALLY. FROM HIGH SPEED RAIL
TO HOUSING. WE'RE TALKING TO HER
ABOUT A LOT OF THINGS AND A LOT
OF OUR BILLS, BUT WE DO THANK
HER FOR PUTTING LANGUAGE AT THE
START IN A BILL, UM, THAT DOES
PROTECT THE WORKERS ON THE JOB
SITE. WE DO HAVE A CONCERN WITH
, UM, PART OF THE LANGUAGE THAT
IS IN THE BILL. UM PARTICULARLY
AROUND AT 62436. THE LANGUAGE
DEALING WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF
HOUSING. UM WE REMAIN STEADFAST
IN OUR BELIEF THAT THE
HEALTHCARE COMPONENTS
SPECIFICALLY IN THAT LANGUAGE
THAT WE FIRST SAW ALL OF US
FIRST SAW MAYBE 2011 LAST YEAR.
WAS WILL BE PREEMPTED BY FEDERAL
LAW. WHEN IT FINALLY GOES INTO
EFFECT. THAT LANGUAGE HASN'T
EVEN GONE INTO EFFECT YET. AND
WE REMAIN CONCERNED ABOUT ITS
PREEMPTION ISSUES. UM
UNFORTUNATELY, WHAT MANY PEOPLE
MAY NOT REALIZE IS THAT THIS IS
GOING TO LEAD TO A FURTHER
EROSION OF THE HEALTHCARE AND
WORKER PROTECTION BENEFITS THAT
EXISTS IN THE RESIDENTIAL
CONSTRUCTION MARKET. UM UH,
CURRENT. UH UM PROPONENTS ASIDE
, THIS IS A PART OF THE
CONSTRUCTION ECONOMY THAT IS
VERY MUCH IN THE UNDERGROUND
ECONOMY. UM, VERY MUCH DOES NOT
TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE
WORKERS WHO ARE BUILDING UM,
SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, UM, OR HIGH
DENSITY PLACES TO LIVE. SO
AGAIN, WE'RE GRATEFUL THAT THE
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S PUT LANGUAGE IN
THE BILL TO BEGIN WITH WE LOOK
FORWARD TO CONTINUING THE
CONVERSATIONS WITH HER AND HER
STAFF AND THE SPONSORS ON THE
SPECIFIC AREA THAT WE HAVE
CONCERNS ABOUT. WE REMAIN
OPPOSED TODAY UNLESS AMENDED.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU ANY OTHER
COMMENTS IN OPPOSITION? SEE
NONE. BRING IT BACK UP HERE. ANY
COMMENTS OF THE COMMITTEE. THANK
YOU, MADAM CHAIR, JUST, UM, ON
SOME OF THOSE COMMENTS. I MEAN,
THE BILL IS STILL BEING WORKED
OUT, SO SOME OF THAT'S STILL
BEING WORKED OUT WITH OPPOSITION
TO FINE TUNE SOME OF THOSE
COMPONENTS IN THE BILL. WE'RE
ALWAYS HAPPY TO SIT DOWN WITH
STAKEHOLDERS, ESPECIALLY
IMPORTANT STAKEHOLDERS LIKE OUR
FRIENDS AND LABOR AND HOPE TO BE
ABLE TO COME TO AN UNDERSTANDING
AND AGREEMENT. THANK YOU. ANY
OTHER COMMENTS? DO WE HAVE A
MOTION AND A SECOND? ONCE THE
BELL SECOND CLOSING COMMENT. UH
JUST WE KNOW WE NEED TO BUILD
HOUSING. WE KNOW WE NEED TO
REVITALIZE A LOT OF THESE URBAN
CORES. AND RIGHT NOW, WHO'S
PAYING FOR THAT INFRASTRUCTURE
FOR THE WATER UPGRADES, THE
ELECTRICITY, THE PUBLIC
TRANSPORTATION. ALL OF THAT'S
FALLING ON THE CITY'S WITHOUT
MUCH SUPPORT. THIS WILL HELP
DEVELOP THROUGH PUBLIC PRIVATE
PARTNERSHIPS, AND IT WILL HELP
BRING REVENUE INTO THESE AREAS.
WITH THAT I WOULD ASK FOR AN I
VOTE. OKAY. THANK YOU. IF YOU
WOULD CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE. THE
ACTION IS DUE PAST TWO JOBS,
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND THE
ECONOMY. JACKSON NO. NO
BOERNER HORVATH I RAMOS. THANK
YOU, RAMOS. I RIVAS I WALDRON.
WILSON WELL SAID. I AGREE A
CURRY. THIS BILL NEEDS MORE
VOTES. THE BILL IS ON CALL.
THAT'S RIGHT. MOVING ON TO ITEM
NUMBER 10, MAYBE 9 10.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S WILSON. FOR ME.
THIS COMMITTEE. MISS IRWIN. YOU
COME NEXT. MR WOOD. I DON'T SEE
. OH, I'M SORRY, MR WILSON. I
GUESS THESE TWO VISITING MEMBERS
A LOT OF BORDER I THINK.
COMMITTEE MEMBERS GO AFTER
COMMITTEE MEMBERS ARE LAST
ALRIGHT. MY WITNESS CAN LEAVE.
OKAY. MY APOLOGIES, MR WOOD. I
THINK YOU CAME IN FIRST. OKAY?
IS WHAT YOU WANT. ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU. MM HMM. THANK YOU,
MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS WOULD
LIKE TO START BY THANKING THE
COMMITTEE FOR THEIR WORK ON THIS
BILL. A B 12 56 WOULD AUTHORIZE
THE HUMBLE THAT COUNTY BOARD OF
SUPERVISORS TO IMPOSE A
TRANSACTIONS AND USE TAX FOR THE
SUPPORT OF COUNTYWIDE
TRANSPORTATION PROGRAMS AT A
RATE OF NO MORE THAN 1% IF AN
ORDINANCE PROPOSING THE TAX IS
APPROVED BY THE VOTERS EARLIER
THIS YEAR, THE HUMBOLDT COUNTY
BOARD OF SUPERVISORS VOTED TO
APPROVE A RESOLUTION ASKING THE
STATE LEGISLATURE TO PASS A
BILL. ALLOWING THE COUNTY TO PUT
A PROPOSED ROADS TAX ON THE ON
THE LOCAL BALLOT. IF APPROVED BY
THE VOTERS WOULD SURPASS THE 2%
LIMIT CALIFORNIA'S ON COMBINED
LOCAL TRANSACTION AND USE TAXES
AND WHAT COUNTY WHICH IS
COVERAGE, WHICH IS RECOVERING
FROM RECENT NATURAL DISASTERS
NEEDS LEGISLATION DUE TO PARTS
OF THE CITY COUNTY PARTNERSHIP,
HAVING REACHED THEIR LIMIT WITH
RESPECT TO HOW HIGH CERTAIN
TAXES CAN GO. WITH ME TO TESTIFY
AND SUPPORT OF THE BILL AS
SUPERVISOR, REX BONE FROM
HUMBOLDT COUNTY. OKAY, SIR.
PLEASE PROCEED. AH MADAM VICE
CHAIRMAN ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S, UM
I'M 1/4 TERM COUNTY SUPERVISOR.
I THINK I'VE BEEN HERE TOO LONG
BECAUSE I'M ASKING YOU FOR
TAXES, UM, COMPLETELY IMMORAL ON
BUT I'M HERE. UM MAINLY HUMBOLDT
COUNTY AS YOU WELL KNOW, 4800
SQUARE MILES 2.9 MILLION ACRES.
I TRAVEL ABOUT 800 MILES A WEEK.
AND THE ROADS HAVE DETERIORATED
IN FRONT OF US WITH THE RECENT
STORMS WE'VE HAD WE ACTUALLY
FLEW OVER 900 BALES OF HAY INTO
41 DIFFERENT RANCHES BECAUSE
THEY COULDN'T GET TO THEM TO
FEED HIM. WE STILL HAD LIVESTOCK
LOSSES, BUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED
WITH THE RUNOFF AND EVERYTHING
ELSE. UM WE'VE HAD GREAT, GREAT
, UM, ROAD DAMAGE. AND WITH THAT
WE ALSO HAD A SNOWMAGEDDON. WE
HAD RAINS, AND WE'VE ALSO HAD
HIGH WINDS WHICH HAVE CREATED
AND TO TOP IT OFF. WE'VE GOT 123
HOMES SITTING OFF THEIR
FOUNDATION RIGHT NOW FROM A
DECEMBER 20TH EARTHQUAKE. ALL IN
HUMBOLDT COUNTY. SO WE'VE HEARD
IT ALL. UM, WITH THAT. THE
COUNTY SALES TAX IN THE
UNINCORPORATED AREA IS STILL WAY
UNDER THE LIMIT. WE HAVEN'T
INCORPORATED AREA THAT IS UP
AGAINST THE LIMIT AND FOR US TO
COLLECT THIS TAX. WE'RE ASKING
YOU FOR THIS, UM THIS CONCESSION
AND AS JUST GOES, UM AND IT WILL
PROBABLY BE A HALF PERCENT. WE
SAY 1% BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW,
BUT IT WILL PROBABLY BE A HALF
PERCENT IS WHAT WE'RE GOING ON.
AND I APPRECIATE ASSEMBLY. ONE
WORDS AGAIN SUPPORTING US IN OUR
ENDEAVORS UP THERE AND ARE THE
NORTHERN PART OF HIS DISTRICT
FOR 136,000 PEOPLE, BUT THIS IS
IMPORTANT TO US. I WOULDN'T BE
HERE ASKING FOR MORE TAXES IF IT
WASN'T IMPORTANT. AND LIKE I
SAID, IT IS. IT IS A TOUGH
SITUATION AND WE COME TO YOU.
ASKING FOR YOUR HELP ON THIS, UM
AND THE CAVEAT TO THIS IS YOU'RE
NOT JUST APPROVING A HALF CENT
SEX. THE VOTERS ARE GOING TO GET
THEIR CHANCE AT THE POLLS,
DECIDE IF THEY WANT TO GIVE US A
HALF CENT IF WE'VE EARNED IT. OR
WHATEVER THE TAX RATE, MAYBE TO
APPLY IT TO OUR ROADS AND OUR
PUBLIC SAFETY. SO IT IS GOOD.
THIS IS JUST TO GET IT ON THE
BALLOT TO EXCEED THAT LIMIT, SO
I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME TODAY. AH
UM, THE FIVE HOUR DRIVE HOME.
THE ROADS ARE A LOT BETTER
BECAUSE THAT'S B ONE IS WORKED
REALLY, REALLY WELL, BUT IN IN
OUR UNINCORPORATED AREAS, AS
SOME OF YOU WELL KNOW, COMING
OUT OF LOCAL POLITICS. IT'S A
TOUGH SITUATION AND YOU KNOW,
IT'S NOT JUST BARKING DOGS. IT'S
POTHOLES AND EVERYTHING ELSE
THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH. SO I
APPRECIATE YOUR TIME TODAY AND
I'VE HAD TO SPEAK IN FRONT OF
THE ASSEMBLY QUITE A FEW TIMES
AS ASSEMBLYMAN WOODS WILL KNOW
AND IT'S USUALLY ABOUT CANNABIS
, AND I'M REALLY EXCITED THAT
IT'S NOT SO I'M KIND OF EXCITED
. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR
YOUR TIME TODAY. THANK YOU. ANY
COMMENTS AND SUPPORT? PLEASE
COME FORWARD. ON BEHALF OF THE
COUNTY OF HUMBOLDT BOARD OF
SUPERVISORS AND SUPPORT ANY
OTHER. WITNESSES ARE COMMENTS
AND SUPPORT ANY WITNESSES OR
COMMENTS AND OPPOSITION. SEE
NONE WILL COME UP HERE. ANY
COMMENTS FROM THE COMMITTEE?
SAYING NONE EMOTION. MOTION AND
A SECOND. MR WOOD, YOUR CLOSING
COMMENTS? UH I JUST APPRECIATE
THAT SUPERVISOR BONE MADE THE
FIVE HOUR TRIP DOWN HERE. I'M
GLAD THE ROADS WERE KIND AND I
APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
PRESENT RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR I
VOTE. OKAY, MADAM CLERK. THE
MOST. Dð PASS TO REVENUE AND
TAXATION COMMITTEE. DIXON SAID.
NO BURNER. CHICO. CHICO I.
RAMOS. RAMOS I, REBUS WALDRON.
WILSON. WILSON. I AGUIAR-CURRY.
YES BILL NEEDS MORE VOTES. THE
BILL IS UNCALLED. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
ALRIGHT WE'RE BACK TO ITEM
NUMBER 10, MS IRWIN. OH, NO, MR
ALVAREZ. ALRIGHT MAYBE 14 76.
ALL RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON,
EVERYBODY. IT'S GREAT TO BE BACK
IN LOCAL GOVERNMENTS WHERE I GOT
MY START. AND I KNOW MANY OF YOU
AS WELL. I AM HERE TO TALK ABOUT
A B 14 76. UM I THOUGHT IT WAS
IMPORTANT THAT WE IN THE
LEGISLATURE AS THE CHAIR IS NOT
HERE, BUT AND OTHER MEMBERS WHO
HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A WHILE HAVE
BEEN FOCUSED ON THE SIGNIFICANCE
OF BRINGING BACK AN IMPORTANT
TOOL THAT WE HAD. UH FOR THOSE
OF US WHO SERVED IN LOCAL
GOVERNMENT, WHICH WAS
REDEVELOPMENT, IT WAS CRITICAL
TO CREATING AFFORDABLE HOUSING
OPPORTUNITIES. IT WAS CRITICAL
TO INVESTMENT INVESTMENT IN
COMMUNITIES THAT WERE UNDER
INVESTED, AND UNFORTUNATELY NOW
10 YEARS AWAY FROM ONE
DISSOLUTION OCCURRED. IT'S A
TOOL THAT HAS NOT COME BACK, AND
IT'S A TOOL THAT IS DESPERATELY
NEEDED BACK IN OUR LOCAL
COMMUNITIES IN ORDER TO ENSURE
THAT WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES. TO
BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND TO
INVEST IN DISINVESTED IN
HISTORICALLY DISINVESTED
COMMUNITY, SO THAT'S WHAT A B 14
76 IS ABOUT. I WILL ALSO
ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THIS BILL IS
LARGELY BASED ON WORK DONE
PREVIOUSLY BEFORE I CAME TO THE
ASSEMBLY, BUT WE TRY TO BUILD ON
THAT WORK TO CREATE MORE
ACCOUNTABILITY AND MORE
TRANSPARENCY. IN THIS LANGUAGE,
SO A B 14 76 WOULD ALLOW CITIES
AND COUNTIES TO CREATE
AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND
INFRASTRUCTURE AGENCIES TO FUND
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THROUGH TAX
INCOME AND FINANCING AND
UNDERDEVELOPED COMMUNITIES AGAIN
. UH OVER 10 YEARS AGO, I WAS ON
THE CITY COUNCIL IN SAN DIEGO. I
ARRIVE WITH THE TOOL OF
REDEVELOPMENT AVAILABLE IN OUR
TOOL BELT. WE BUILT A LOT OF
AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND COMMUNITY
THAT DESPERATELY NEEDED IT. AND
UNFORTUNATELY AGAIN IN 2012 AND
2013 WITH DISILLUSION, A TOOL
WAS NOT NO LONGER AVAILABLE TO
US OR TO ANY OTHER CITY AND I
THINK WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF THE
REPERCUSSIONS OF THAT. THE LACK
OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING FUNDING
STREAM IN A REGULAR ON A REGULAR
BASIS. UH UNFORTUNATELY, ARGUS
BACK, THEN THE LACK OF ADEQUATE
STATE OVERSIGHT AND FINANCIAL
PROTECTIONS RESULTED IN
INEFFICIENCIES AND REALLY PUT A
TARGET ON THEIR BACKS AND
GOVERNOR BROWN AND THE
LEGISLATURE AT THE TIME DID AWAY
WITH THEM. 14 76 RECOGNIZES THE
IMPORTANCE OF ARGUS AND THEIR
SHORTFALLS BY REESTABLISHING
THEM WITH MUCH STRONGER
OVERSIGHT PROVISIONS, INCLUDING
THE CONTROLLERS OVERSIGHT THAT
INCLUDES PENALTIES FOR
NONCOMPLIANCE OPPORTUNITIES FOR
PUBLIC INPUT THAT WE DID NOT
HAVE BEFORE. PASS THROUGH
PAYMENTS FOR TAXING ENTITIES TO
ENSURE THAT THEY REMAIN WHOLE SO
THAT OUR SCHOOLS AND OUR
COMMUNITY COLLEGES REMAIN WHOLE
AND IT REQUIREMENT MUCH HIGHER
THAN BEFORE OF 30% OF THE FUNDS
BEING DEDICATED TO BUILDING LOW
AND MODERATE INCOME HOUSING.
SOME OF THE OVERSIGHT PROVISIONS
, INCLUDING STATES APPROVAL OF
THE ESTABLISHMENT OF ALL
AGENCIES. SO THE STATE HAS TO
SAY YES, BEFORE THEY EXIST, AND
THE COMPTROLLER'S ANNUAL REVIEW
OF THE AGENCIES TO DETERMINE
THAT THE STATE FISCAL IMPACT
THAT WOULD ALLOW THE CONTROLLER
TO CAP THE CREATION OF NEW
AGENCIES. SO NO MORE NEW
AGENCIES UNLESS, UH, THE
CONTROLLER DEEMED APPROPRIATE.
UM BASED ON PROP 98 OBLIGATIONS
ARE SCHOOL OBLIGATIONS.
IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING THE
DISSOLUTION OF ARGUS. THE
LEGISLATURE DID CREATE NEW TOOLS
. I WAS ONE OF THE CITIES THAT
PROBABLY ONE OF THE FIRST CITIES
THAT CREATED AN E I F D. THE
ENHANCED INFRASTRUCTURE
FINANCING DISTRICTS, WHICH WAS
THE LEGISLATURE'S RESPONSE TO
OUR D A IS GOING AWAY.
UNFORTUNATELY THAT HAS NOT LED
TO THE SAME LEVEL OF
PARTICIPATION THE SAME LEVEL OF
SUCCESS AND CERTAINLY NOT THE
KIND OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING
FUNDING STREAM THAT WE HAD AND
WE ENJOYED PRIOR. TO THAT IT IS
A USEFUL TOOL, BUT IT CERTAINLY
IS VERY, VERY DIFFICULT AND
CHALLENGING, AND VERY FEW PLACES
ACTUALLY HAVE A F D S IN PLACE.
UM THIS TOOL IS IMPORTANT AND I
WOULD JUST CITE THE GOVERNOR'S
OWN OPR REPORT IN 2021. ONLY TWO
YEARS AGO, WHICH FOUND THAT OUR
CURRENT TAX INCREMENT FINANCING
TOOLS, INCLUDING THE I F. D S
ARE NOT WORKING, BECAUSE, AMONG
OTHER THINGS, THEY DO NOT
REQUIRE TAXING ENTITIES TO
PARTICIPATE. THEY CAN OPT OUT. I
ALSO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THERE'S
SOME CONCERNS ABOUT EMINENT
DOMAIN AND THAT IS SOMETHING
THAT I BELIEVE IS ADDRESSED AND
CAN BE FURTHER CLARIFIED IF
NEEDED. I APPRECIATE THAT
PROTECTIONS MAY NOT THAT ARE
CURRENTLY MAY NOT BE ENOUGH AND
AGAIN IF WE NEED TO FOCUS ON
THAT WE WILL DO THAT GOING
FORWARD. I LOOK FORWARD TO
CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THOSE OF
YOU WHO HAVE CONCERNS AND OTHERS
AND AGAIN AS SOMEONE FROM LOCAL
GOVERNMENT AND THOSE OF YOU WHO
HAVE SERVED UM, THERE. THE
LEGISLATURE CREATED THIS TOOL.
DECADES AGO. IT WAS VERY USEFUL
. IT WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL.
UNFORTUNATELY THERE WERE ABUSES
AND WE SAW WHAT HAPPENED. WE
NEED TO KEEP THE DRUMBEAT. WE
NEED TO KEEP TALKING ABOUT THE
OPPORTUNITY TO REINVEST IN
COMMUNITIES TO REINVEST IN
AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THAT'S WHY I
HAVE THIS BILL BEFORE YOU TODAY
AND TO TESTIFY. I HAVE A WITNESS
TO SHARE THEIR PERSPECTIVE AS
WELL. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS. I AM HERE TO PROVIDE A
PERSPECTIVE ON A B 14 76, THE
COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT ACT OF
2023. EXCUSE ME. MY NAME IS
MICHELLE WILLARD AND I'M THE
CHIEF PUBLIC AFFAIRS OFFICER FOR
THE GREATER SACRAMENTO ECONOMIC
COUNCIL HERE IN THE STATE
CAPITAL REGION. WE ARE THE
LEADING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
ORGANIZATION, UM, AND A PUBLIC
PRIVATE NONPROFIT PARTNERSHIP,
WHICH IS RARE THROUGHOUT THE
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. SO WE
HAVE 40 CEO S AND 21 COMMUNITIES
FOCUSING ON GROWTH,
SUSTAINABILITY, EQUITY,
INCLUSION AND COMPETITIVENESS AS
IT RELATES TO ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT. HOUSING IS A VITAL
COMPONENT WHEN WE ATTRACT OR
KEEP TALENT IN THE STATE,
CAPITAL OF CALIFORNIA REGION IF
WE CAN'T PROVIDE AFFORDABLE
HOUSING, THE COMPANY WILL LOOK
ELSEWHERE THROUGHOUT THE UNITED
STATES OF AMERICA TO EXPAND OR
RELOCATE OPERATIONS INTO ANOTHER
STATE, ULTIMATELY HURTING THE
ECONOMIC VITALITY OF THE REGION
AND THE INCOME TAX BASE, NOT
ONLY FOR THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA, BUT FOR OUR LOCAL
COMMUNITIES PERSONALLY LIVED IN
10 DIFFERENT STATES AND HAVE
SEEN AFFORDABLE HOUSING OPTIONS
WHEN THERE IS ENOUGH SUPPLY.
LIFE FOR THE DEMAND. THERE IS
LESS HOMELESSNESS IN THE
DOWNTOWN AREA, AND THE URBAN
CORE IS THRIVING WHEN THIS CAN
HAPPEN. REDEVELOPMENT TOOLS
ALLOW COMMUNITIES TO DEVELOP
INFILL AFFORDABLE HOUSING PLACE
MAKING AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
PROJECTS THAT ADDRESS URBAN
BLIGHT, EQUITABLE ACCESS TO
HOUSING AND JOBS AND
ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS OF
SPRAWLING DEVELOPMENT
PRACTITIONERS NEED A
COMPREHENSIVE TOOLBOX RIGHT NOW
WE HAVE VERY FEW THE BILL BUILDS
OUT THAT TOOLBOX AND ADDS
PROTECTIONS FOR THE PUBLIC
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCIES ARE VITAL
TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S A
FOCUS ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND
COMMUNITIES WHERE PEOPLE ARE
LEFT BEHIND. UNFORTUNATELY THE
STATE CAPITAL OF CALIFORNIA'S
DOWNTOWN IS SUFFERING FROM AN
EXODUS OF EMPLOYEES DUE TO
REMOTE WORK BUSINESSES AND NEW
INVESTMENTS AND THEN PEOPLE ARE
CURRENTLY MOVING TO THE SUBURBS.
THERE IS CURRENTLY AROUND 9000
INDIVIDUALS EXPERIENCING
HOMELESSNESS AND SACRAMENT.
SACRAMENTO COUNTY OF 67%
INCREASE FROM 2019 72% ARE
UNSHELTERED WHEN WE PREVENT
DEVELOPMENT AND REDUCE
INVESTMENT IN THE COMMUNITY. IT
ULTIMATELY HURTS JOB CREATION
FOR LOW INCOME AND UNDERSERVED
COMMUNITIES AS WELL AS
AFFORDABLE HOUSING. WE NEED A
VIBRANT DOWNTOWN. I KNOW
THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA EVERYONE NEEDS A
VIBRANT DOWNTOWN. AND THE
REDEVELOPMENT POLICY THAT
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S ALVAREZ'S, UH,
ASKING TO MOVE FORWARD WILL MOVE
US IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. I
WANT TO MAKE TWO POINTS ABOUT
REDEVELOPMENT THAT ARE IMPORTANT
AS WE BEGIN TO THINK ABOUT
BRINGING BACK THIS TOOL. FIRST
REDEVELOPMENT IS ESSENTIAL AS
CITIES OR GROUPS OF
MUNICIPALITIES ENGAGE IN THE
DEVELOPMENT, ESPECIALLY OF THEIR
DOWNTOWN QUARTERS, AND SECOND,
THAT REDEVELOPMENT IS
FUNDAMENTALLY A PLACE MAKING
TOOL AND IS ESSENTIAL IN A TIME
WHEN THERE IS BOTH A PRIORITY
FOR REINVIGORATING OUR
DOWNTOWNS. FOR REASONS OF BOTH.
EQUITY AND ENVIRONMENTAL
SUSTAINABILITY. ONE EXCITING
ASPECT OF THIS BILL IS IT
FOCUSES ON ADDRESSING CLIMATE
CHANGE THROUGH BUILDING THIS
REQUIREMENT DIRECTLY INTO THE
GOALS OF THE PROGRAM.
REDEVELOPMENT WAS A KEY TOOL FOR
CITIES TO BE INTENTIONAL, ACTIVE
AND INFLUENTIAL PARTNERS AND
CREATING AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR
THE HOMELESS AND OTHER LOW
INCOME POPULATIONS WITHIN THEIR
JURISDICTIONS, THOUGH THESE ARE
LEAN BUDGET TIMES, RESTORING
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY IS AN
IMPORTANT PUBLIC PRIORITY,
ESPECIALLY IN CALIFORNIA, WHERE
CITIES GENERALLY DO NOT HAVE
ACCESS TO THE SAME TYPES OF
FINANCIAL INCENTIVES TO
ENCOURAGE COMPANIES TO MOVE AND
EXPANDED CALIFORNIA AND LET ME
TELL YOU I DO THIS FOR A LIVING,
AND IT'S EXTREMELY TOUGH. BUT I
FIGHT FOR CALIFORNIA EVERY DAY.
WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO SHOW THAT
WE CAN PROVIDE AFFORDABLE
HOUSING AS WELL AS VIBRANT
CLIMATE, SMART CITIES FOR THESE
COMPANIES TO GROW REDEVELOPMENT
IS AN ESSENTIAL TOOL FOR MAKING
THAT HAPPEN, AND WE ENCOURAGE
THE COMMITTEE TO EXAMINE ITS
BENEFITS CLOSELY AND THANK YOU
FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION
TODAY. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE
WITNESSES AND SUPPORT? PLEASE
COME FORWARD. WITNESSES AND
OPPOSITION.
WHO'S PROCEED. MADAM VICE CHAIR
MEMBERS. I'M BOB NAYLOR. I
REPRESENT FIELD STUDY IN COMPANY
. THAT'S HOWARD AHMANSON JR AND
ORANGE COUNTY PHILANTHROPIST WHO
IS VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF
AGGRESSIVE. FINDING OF FUNDING
OF LOW INCOME HOUSING. IN FACT,
WE HAVE GREAT RESPECT FOR THE
AUTHOR, ESPECIALLY HIS WORK IN
THE DENSITY BONUS AREA AND
STREAMLINING AFFORDABLE HOUSING,
AND WE'VE BEEN SUPPORTED
SUPPORTIVE OF HIS BILLS. BUT
RESPECTFULLY, WE HAVE TO OPPOSE
THIS BILL. IS IT? BRINGS BACK
THE REGIME OF EMINENT DOMAIN
ABUSE. THAT THIS STATE
EXPERIENCED THROUGH THE 60 YEARS
OR SO OF THE COMMUNITY
REDEVELOPMENT LAW, WHICH THIS
BILL REENACTS. THE CALIFORNIA
REPARATIONS COMMISSION DID A
WHOLE CHAPTER ON EMINENT DOMAIN.
AND THEY EXCORIATE REDEVELOPMENT
, EMINENT DOMAIN FOR WHAT IT DID
TO BLACK AND OTHER MINORITY
COMMUNITIES. THE NUMBER ONE
EXAMPLE OF MANY THAT THEY CITE
AH WAS IN SAN FRANCISCO,
STARTING IN ABOUT 1956, THE
FILLMORE DISTRICT, WHICH WAS
ALSO KNOWN AS THE HARLEM OF THE
WEST, WAS ESSENTIALLY RAISED. AH
AH! AND ACCORDING TO THE AH!
COMMISSION. CLOSE THEY SAN
FRANCISCO CLOSED 883 BUSINESSES.
DISPLAYS 4729 HOUSEHOLDS
DESTROYED 4500 VICTORIAN HOMES
AND DAMAGED THE LIVES OF NEARLY
20,000 PEOPLE. NOW WHEN I CAME
TO PRACTICE LAW IN SAN FRANCISCO
IN 1971, YES, I KNOW. LONG TIME
AGO, IT WAS STILL MOSTLY VACANT
AND THAT PART OF SAN FRANCISCO A
FEW BLOCKS FROM HERE. THERE ARE
STILL BUSINESSES. BUSINESS
FRONTS, I SHOULD SAY BOARDED UP
BUSINESSES. IN BLOCKS OF
BUSINESSES THAT WERE TAKEN IN
THE 19 SIXTIES. IN SACRAMENTO
REDEVELOPMENT. UM SO I URGE THE
AUTHOR TOO. AND I AM GLAD HE
MADE A POSITIVE REMARK ABOUT
WORKING OUT SOMETHING ON EMINENT
DOMAIN. BUT SENATOR KAMLAGER SET
A GOOD EXAMPLE IN HER SB 6 79 2
YEARS AGO, AND SHE ACCEPTED AN
AMENDMENT AND THIS IS FOR A LOS
ANGELES COUNTY HOUSING
AUTHORITY. TO BAR THE EXERCISE
OF EMINENT DOMAIN. IT'S NICE AND
CLEAR. WE HAVE ASKED THE AUTHOR
TO CONSIDER THAT WE HOPE HE DOES
WITH OUTSIDE AMENDMENT. WE URGED
THE COMMITTEE TO VOTE. NO, THANK
YOU RESPECTFULLY VERY MUCH. NEXT
SPEAKER. YES I'M STEVE GREEN HUT
, WESTERN REGION DIRECTOR FOR
THE R STREET INSTITUTE WERE FREE
MARKET THINK TANK. UM I COVERED
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCIES IN
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA AS A
JOURNALIST EVEN WROTE A BOOK
ABOUT IT. AND WHAT I SAW WAS
REPEATEDLY THE MISUSE OF EMINENT
DOMAIN AND DESTROYED LIVES AS
CITIES TOOK HOMES AND
BUSINESSES. BASED ON FLIMSY BIKE
FINDINGS. WE SAW AN ORANGE
COUNTY WHERE THEY TARGETED
ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD IN GARDEN
GROVE ON SPEC SO THAT THE AREA
COULD BE REDEVELOPED BY THE CITY
OF GARDEN GROVE. INTO A THEME
PARK TO COMPETE WITH DISNEYLAND
. YOU CAN IMAGINE WHAT IT DID TO
THE MOSTLY MIDDLE CLASS AND
LOWER INCOME RESIDENTS IN THE
NEIGHBORHOOD. IT DESTROYED THEIR
LIVES I'VE SEEN UH, SMALL
BUSINESSES THAT THAT THAT BUILT
AND BUILT AND THEN THE CITY
COMES ALONG DOES A BLIGHT
FINDING AND OFTEN THOSE BLIGHT
FINDINGS ARE FLIMSY. THEY TAKE
THE PROPERTY AND THEY GIVE IT TO
LARGE DEVELOPERS FOR PENNIES ON
THE DOLLAR. SO WE SAW THAT
REPEATEDLY. SO UH, THE ASSEMBLY
MEMBER RESPECTFULLY. HE TALKED
ABOUT NEW UM, OVERSIGHT, BUT THE
FINANCIAL INCENTIVE OF
REDEVELOPMENT JUST MADE IT SO
COMPELLING THAT IT IT THAT THAT
OVERTURNS ANY SORT OF TECHNICAL
OVERSIGHT. UM SO IT ALSO WE SAW
THAT IT DIVERTED DOLLARS FROM
TRADITIONAL PUBLIC SERVICES AND
I SEE IN THE ASSEMBLY. UH
DISCUSSION HERE THAT THIS BILL
WOULD EXPLICITLY ALLOW MONEY TO
BE DIVERTED FROM FROM SCHOOLS
ONCE AGAIN. UM IT DISTORTED
DEVELOPMENT DECISIONS. SO UM,
EVEN THOUGH REDEVELOPMENT
PROVIDED 20% FOR AFFORDABLE
HOUSING, IT ALSO DISCOURAGED
CITIES FROM PERMITTING
AFFORDABLE HOUSING BY
ENCOURAGING THEM TO PERMIT SALES
TAX GENERATING BIG BOX STORES
AND AUTUMN. ALSO IT ACTUALLY IN
PART HELPED CREATE THE HOUSING
CRISIS THAT WE HAVE IN HER
DISSENT TO THE KILO DECISION.
THE U. S. SUPREME COURT JUSTICE
SANDRA DAY O'CONNOR NOTED THAT
BY ALLOWING EMINENT DOMAIN FOR
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PURPOSES IT
GAVE LICENSE TO FOR GOVERNMENTS
TO TRANSFER PROPERTY FROM THOSE
WITH FEWER RESOURCES TO THOSE
WITH MORE SO, ESSENTIALLY IT IT
YOU KNOW IT HARMED THE POOR, AND
IT HARMED THE POWERLESS AND WE
SAW WITH THE YOU KNOW THE
BRUCE'S BEACH SITUATION THAT
OBVIOUSLY WAY PREDATED
REDEVELOPMENT, BUT IT SHOWS HOW
EMINENT DOMAIN CAN BE ABUSED TO
HARM THE POOR. AND YOU DON'T
HEAR IN SACRAMENTO. K STREET IS
THE STREET THAT'S MOST DOMINATED
BY GOVERNMENT PLANNING AND
REDEVELOPMENT. THEY EVEN SPENT
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON A MERMAID
BAR AND PIZZERIA, WHICH I
BELIEVE IS NO LONGER THERE, AND
THAT'S THE CITY THAT HAS BEEN
UNABLE TO REDEVELOP THE MOST. SO
GOVERNOR BROWN WAS RIGHT TO
ELIMINATE THOSE AGENCIES IN 2012
. I THINK IT WAS HIS CROWNING
ACHIEVEMENT. PLEASE LET'S NOT
BRING THEM BACK. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU ANY OTHER COMMENTS AND
WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION? PLEASE
COME FORWARD. SEE NONE WILL
BRING IT TO THE COMMITTEE
COMMENTS. YES MR PACHECO? YES SO
, UH, I JUST WANTED TO THANK THE
AUTHOR FOR BRINGING THIS BILL
FORWARD. UH IN IN DOWNEY, WE
DEFINITELY USED REDEVELOPMENT.
UM THE LAST PROJECT THAT WE USED
IT WAS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING,
AND THAT'S THE LAST AFFORDABLE
HOUSING THAT WE WERE ABLE TO DO
IN THE CITY OF DOWNY, SO
UNFORTUNATELY, I WASN'T ABLE TO
TAKE ADVANTAGE. WHEN I GOT ONTO
CITY COUNCIL. I GOT IT ON TO
CITY COUNCIL IN 2016. BUT I DO
WANT TO COMMEND THE AUTHOR FOR
BRINGING THIS BILL FORWARD, AND
I'M CURIOUS TO SEE WHAT YOUR
THOUGHTS ARE. UM WHAT THE
OPPOSITION SPOKE OF YEAH,
ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO THAT.
I THINK FIRST AND FOREMOST, UM,
IF IT NEEDS TO BE MADE ANY CLEAR
ABOUT THE PROTECTIONS HAS
RELEASED HIM IN DOMAIN. WE WILL.
THERE WAS NEW LAWS THAT WERE
APPROVED BECAUSE OF SOME OF
THESE ABUSES. I REMEMBER
SPECIFICALLY A SENATOR FROM A
LEGISLATOR FROM SAN DIEGO. CHRIS
KEHOE, UH, ON PROTECTIONS AS A
RELATED TO EMINENT DOMAIN AND
THE ABUSE OF IT, AND SO, TO THE
EXTENT THAT WE NEED TO CLARIFY
THAT THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING
WE LIKE TO DO THEIRS. NO UM,
INTENT. I COME FROM A COMMUNITY.
UM WHERE THIS WAS UTILIZED AS A
TOOL AND WHERE WE'RE CONCERNED
WITH NOT JUST WHAT EMINENT
DOMAIN DOES, BUT THE
GENTRIFICATION THAT IT ALSO CAN
BRING. THAT'S WHY THERE'S ALSO
PROVISIONS IN THIS BILL THAT DID
NOT EXIST BEFORE ABOUT
PROTECTING AGAINST DISPLACEMENT
OF INDIVIDUALS WHO LIVE IN THESE
COMMUNITIES BECAUSE WE DON'T
WANT TO INVEST THERE. AND THEN
THE PEOPLE WHO HAD BEEN LIVING
THERE FOR A LONG TIME, THEN
DON'T GET TO ACTUALLY BENEFIT
FROM THOSE INVESTMENTS. SO
THERE'S PROTECTIONS AGAINST
DISPLACEMENT OF RESIDENTS, BUT
SPECIFICALLY ON EMINENT DOMAIN.
IF WE NEED TO MAKE IT CLEAR WE
WILL DO THAT. I UNDERSTAND THAT
CONCERN AND I ACTUALLY, UH M IN
LINE WITH SOME OF THOSE
CONCERNS. YES AND I FIGURED YOU
WOULD BE, UM AND, UH, PLEASE ASK
ME ADD ME AS A CO AUTHOR. I
THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR OUR
CITIES. APPRECIATE IT. THANK
YOU. MM HMM. ANY OTHER COMMENTS.
VICE CHAIR. DIXON REMEMBER,
ROBIN? THANK YOU NOW I JUST
WANTED TO ASK, UM, BACK WHEN WE
HAD REDEVELOPMENT AGENCIES. IT
WAS WONDERFUL TO BE ABLE TO GET
THE HOUSING SET ASIDE FUNDS AND
TO BE ABLE TO GO OUT TO BED AND
GET PROJECTS IN THE COMMUNITY,
ESPECIALLY INFILL PROJECTS. THAT
ENDED UP BEING LIKE THE SOME OF
THE BEST THINGS THAT EVER
HAPPENED TO THOSE AREAS AND
ACTUALLY SPURRED DEVELOPMENT AND
IMPROVEMENT ALL AROUND AND OTHER
ESPECIALLY RESIDENTIAL
DEVELOPMENT AROUND IT, UM. WOULD
THIS KIND OF BE SET UP IN THE
SAME WAY THAT THAT YOU WOULD BE
ABLE TO HAVE THE SET ASIDE
FUNDS? MAYBE CALL IT SOMETHING
ELSE. I DON'T KNOW. BUT YOU
WOULD BE ABLE TO WORK WITH AND
HAVE A DEVELOPER COME IN, UM AND
THEN THEY COULD ALSO APPLY FOR
TAX CREDITS AND THINGS LIKE THAT
DOESN'T WORK THE SAME WAY. SO
YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. SO
USUALLY AGAIN. THOSE OF US WHO
SERVED A LOCAL GOVERNMENT, BUT
WE USED TO DO IS COBBLE TOGETHER
MULTIPLE FUNDING SOURCES IN
ORDER TO MAKE AFFORDABLE HOUSING
PROJECTS. AND SOMETIMES IT'S A
TAX CREDIT ALLOCATIONS AND ITS
REDEVELOPMENT MONEY. I CAN TELL
YOU JUST LIKE, UH, REMEMBER
PACHECO MENTIONED EARLIER IN MY
REGION. WE HAD A VACANT PARCEL
FROM THE 19 SIXTIES THAT WE
TURNED INTO 170 UNITS OF FAMILY
HOUSING. 60, PLUS UNITS OF
SENIOR HOUSING AND WE ALSO WERE
ABLE TO DO ABOUT 15 UNITS OF FOR
SALE FOR THOSE WHO ARE BUYING
THEIR FIRST HOME. UM THAT WOULD
NOT HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE IF IT
WEREN'T FOR ALL OF THE DIFFERENT
FUNDING SOURCES AND THE VERY
LAST, UH, FUNDING SOURCE OF
REDEVELOPMENT DOLLARS, JUST LIKE
IT WAS NEAR CITY CAME FROM
REDEVELOPMENT. IN ORDER TO MAKE
THAT PROJECT HAPPEN, THAT LOT
WOULD CONTINUE TO SIT VACANT.
WITHOUT OPPORTUNITIES FOR ONE
FOR HOUSING, FOR SURE, BUT TO
ALSO THESE ARE MIXED USE
PROJECTS, SO THERE'S
OPPORTUNITIES FOR ECONOMIC
ACTIVITY ON GROUND FLOOR LEASES
. SO THIS WOULD SET ASIDE 30% OF
THE OLD LAW. IT WAS 15. THIS LAW
WOULD BE 30% OF THE FUNDS THAT
WERE ACQUIRED THROUGH TAX
INCREMENT WOULD HAVE TO GO TO
AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS.
MIDDLE INCOME AND LOWER INCOME.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS. YES. ANY
OTHER QUESTIONS? YES MISS WILSON
, VICE CHAIR. DIXON THANK YOU TO
THE AUTHOR FOR BRINGING THIS
FORWARD. MY CITY HAD A GREAT
BENEFITED GREATLY FROM THE
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY AND ALSO,
UM, IT WAS A POSTER CHILD FOR IT
AND A POSTER CHILD FOR IT IN THE
OTHER WAY TO BECAME OVERLY
RELIANT ON IT AND USED IN
ANOTHER WAY THAT WASN'T
NECESSARILY BENEFICIAL AND
INCREASING THE APPRECIATION OF
PROPERTY TAX TO CONTINUALLY
GOING FORWARD. I AM TO
APPRECIATE THE ADJUSTMENT THAT
YOU'VE MADE, UM FROM THE
PREVIOUS ITERATION TO NOW, TO
BASICALLY THE TWO POINT OH
VERSION, WHICH ALSO, UM,
PROTECTS DISPLACEMENT ALLOWS FOR
MORE, UM, INCREASES TO, YOU KNOW
, AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT SET
ASIDE FOR THAT. UM BUT I DO WANT
TO MAKE SURE AND I KNOW THAT
YOUR HEART IS IN THE RIGHT
PLACES NOTED FROM MY COLLEAGUE.
AS SOME OF THEM PORTICO IN
REGARDS TO TAKING IT SERIOUSLY.
THE CONSIDERATIONS REGARDING
EMINENT DOMAIN. UM AS WE KNOW
THAT THOSE ARE PART OF A LEGACY
, UM THAT REALLY IS ROOTED IN
RACIAL DISCRIMINATION AS WELL AS
YOU KNOW, FURTHER DISPLACEMENT
OF COMMUNITIES AND
GENTRIFICATION. AND SO AS YOU'RE
NAVIGATING THROUGH THIS THROUGH
THE REST OF THE LEGISLATIVE
PROCESS PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT
THOSE PROTECTIONS ARE IRON CLAD
IN THERE, GUARDING AGAINST THAT
, AS WELL AS MAKING SURE THAT
THE LANGUAGE IN YOUR BILL DOES
NOT SUBVERT, UM THE LANGUAGE IN
THERE AND ALLOWS FOR A CARVE OUT
SO TO SPEAK, OR AN EXCEPTION TO
THE RULE. UM AND I THINK THAT'S
PROBABLY WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT,
BUT WITH THAT, I DO, UM,
SUPPORT. YOU KNOW YOUR EFFORTS
AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE
MOTION. THANK YOU. UM I HAVE THE
SAME CONCERNS ABOUT EMINENT
DOMAIN BECAUSE IT'S EXPLICITLY
PROVIDED FOR IN THE LANGUAGE OF
THE BILL SO THAT WOULD LIKE TO
SEE THAT REMOVED. ALSO JUST AS
WE'VE BEEN TALKING THIS
AFTERNOON, AND THIS COMES BEFORE
LOCAL GOVERNMENT YEAH, IT'S
ABOUT TAX INCREMENT FINANCING. I
MEAN, I THINK I JUST HAVE
PROBLEMS WITH IT. I MEAN, I'VE
SEEN IT FOR THE TAKEAWAY FROM
LOCAL GOVERNMENT FUNDING. THAT'S
WHAT CONCERNS SCHOOLS AH, AH,
AND INVESTMENTS AND IN THEIR OWN
INFRASTRUCTURE. I MEAN, IT'S
JUST TAKES MONEY OFF THE TOP.
AND I KNOW WE ALL HAVE
CONFIDENCE IN THE REAL ESTATE
MARKET VALUE INCREASES OF
CALIFORNIA REAL ESTATE. I JUST
THINK THAT IT'S MONEY THAT
SHOULD STAY IN LOCAL COMMUNITIES
. AND I DO KNOW OVER THE LAST
SEVERAL YEARS PRIVATE PUBLIC
HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATIONS, IN
FACT, THE ASSEMBLY I BELIEVE
IT'S A B 444 NO. THE ORANGE
COUNTY HOUSING FINANCE AGENCY
WAS APPROVED. THEY HAD TO CREATE
A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP TO
PROVIDE THAT GAP FINANCING FOR
AFFORDABLE HOUSING, SO I SUPPORT
THE PRIVATE AND PUBLIC EFFORTS,
TAX INCREMENT FINANCING, AND
IT'S SOMETHING THAT IT WAS LIKE
, IN MY OPINION, IT'S NOT BEEN
THOUGHTS THROUGH IN TERMS OF THE
IMPACTS TO PARTICULARLY
UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES AND
EDUCATIONAL FUNDING AND OTHER
NEEDS IN THE LOCAL COMMUNITIES
AND INFRASTRUCTURE AND ALL THIS
HOUSING. WHO'S GOING TO BUILD
THE SCHOOLS AND THE ROADS THAT
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER AND
FIRE AND POLICE? I MEAN, THERE'S
A LOT OF ADDITIONAL
INFRASTRUCTURE AND SERVICE COSTS
THAT ARE GOING TO BE COMING WITH
ALL THIS ADDITIONAL HOUSING.
THAT WE HAVE TO SUPPORT AND WE
WANT TO SUPPORT IN THE RIGHT
WAY. SO I'M JUST CONCERNED OF
THIS. TAKE AWAY FROM THE TOP
THAT WE HAVE WE TRULY ADEQUATELY
ASSESS THE RAMIFICATIONS. BUT I
APPRECIATE YOUR GOOD INTENTIONS
AND WE ALL COME FROM LOCAL
GOVERNMENT. YOU KNOW WHAT IS
NEEDED IN YOUR LOCAL COMMUNITIES
, AND I'M JUST BEING VERY
SENSITIVE TO THAT AS WELL. FROM
WHAT I SEE. SO DO YOU HAVE ANY
CLOSING COMMENTS? THANK YOU. AND
IF IT HELPS CLARIFY THE BILL'S
PRETTY CLEARLY WRITTEN TO HOLD
HARMLESS BOTH ARE INSECURE
EDUCATION INSTITUTIONS, WHICH
ACTUALLY HAVE TO BE GUARANTEED
WITH PROP 98TH FUNDING. SO
FUNDING DOES NOT GO AWAY FROM
SCHOOLS, UM AND 70% OF THE TAX
INCREMENT THAT IS CREATED, UH,
DOESN'T HAVE TO GO TO AFFORDABLE
HOUSING. YOU CAN GO TO ALL THE
OTHER THINGS THAT YOU TALKED
ABOUT IT. IT'S ACTUALLY OUTLINED
IN THE BILL THINGS THAT ARE
IMPORTANT TO ME AND TO ALL OF US
AS LOCAL FOLKS. LIBRARIES FIRE
STATIONS, POLICE STATIONS,
PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE. CAN BE
FINANCED WITH THE REMAINING 70%
THERE'S ONLY SAYS THAT 30% MUST
BE USED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING
DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT ALL HAS TO
BE USED IN THAT WAY AND CITIES
HAVE TO OPT IN, UM INTO THIS
PROGRAM, AND THE STATE HAS TO
GIVE THEM AUTHORITY TOPPED IN,
SO THERE'S A LOT OF MECHANISMS
BUILT IN PLACE TO TRY TO PREVENT
THAT. UM, BUT THANK YOU VERY
MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY, AND I
WOULD JUST ASK THAT WE CONTINUE
AGAIN. AS WE THOSE OF US WHO
BELIEVE THAT THIS TOOL IS
CRITICAL TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING FUNDING
STREAM FOR LOCAL CITIES, UM,
THAT WE PUT FORWARD A PROPOSAL
THAT HAS BEEN PUT FORWARD
BEFORE. BY MANY MEMBERS OF THE
LEGISLATURE AND THROUGH THIS
COMMITTEE, AND HOPEFULLY UM UH,
WITH THESE NEW CHANGES, WE CAN
HAVE MORE RECEPTION AND MOVE
THIS EVEN MORE FORWARD THAN IT
HAS IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
AND I ASKED HER I VOTE. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. WE
HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. ALL
RIGHT. WE'LL CALL THE VOTE.
THANK YOU. MOTION BY WILSON'S
SECOND BY THE CZECH Ó. THIS IS
A DO PASS THE HOUSING AND
COMMUNITIES COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT. DIXON NO. NO
BURNER. BUT CHICO CHICO, I RAMOS
RAMOS, I RIVAS WALDRON. CAULDRON
WALDRON, I WILSON. WILSON I
AGREE. OUR CURRY. OKAY THE BILL
IS OUT, BUT WE'LL LEAVE THE ROLE
OPEN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK
YOU. ALL RIGHT. ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
IRWIN, COME RIGHT UP. YOU'VE
BEEN WAITING PATIENTLY. THIRD
TIME'S A CHARM. YEAH, YEAH,
YEAH. OKAY PLEASE PROCEED. WELL
GOOD AFTERNOON VICE CHAIR AND
MEMBERS. I AM PLEASED TO PRESENT
A B 16 37, WHICH WILL REQUIRE
LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO MIGRATE
THEIR PUBLIC FACING INTERNET
WEBSITES AND EMAIL ADDRESSES TO
THE DOT GOV OR CALIFORNIA DOT
GOV. DOMAIN. UH THE PUBLIC'S
TRUST IN GOVERNMENT IS
FOUNDATIONAL FOR A HEALTHY
DEMOCRACY WITH RISING LEVELS OF
MISINFORMATION AND FRAUD
PERPETRATED ONLINE AND MORE
SOPHISTICATED THREAT ACTORS
INTENDING TO CONFUSE AND MISLEAD
. WE CAN NO LONGER BE HAPHAZARD
ABOUT HOW LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ARE
PRESENTED ONLINE. A REVIEW OF
LOCAL GOVERNMENT WEBSITES FINDS
THAT ABOUT A THIRD OF CITIES AND
COUNTIES ALREADY USED DOT GOV.
BUT MANY STILL USE DOT COM .ORG
DOT NET OR DOT US. AND THESE
OTHER DOMAINS CAN EASILY BE
PURCHASED BY ANYBODY AND CAN
SPOOF A LEGITIMATE LOCAL
GOVERNMENT WEBSITE BY
REGISTERING A DOMAIN WITH A
SLIGHT TYPO OR ADDING A HYPHEN
AND JUST NOW, ESPECIALLY FOR THE
PREVIOUS MAYOR OF SUICIDE. OH
SOO'S SASSOON CITY WE FOUND
SASSOON. UH WE FOUND THAT WE
COULD PURCHASE SASSOON .COM. IN
ABOUT FIVE MINUTES FOR ONE
PENNY. AND THEN WHAT WOULD
HAPPEN WITH THAT? THE DOMAIN
SOME BAD ACTOR COULD SEND EMAIL
OUT TO RESIDENTS OF THE CITY AND
THEY COULD THINK THAT IT WAS A
LEGITIMATE WEBSITE, AND THEN YOU
KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, THEY COULD
WREAK ALL SORTS OF HAVOC WITHOUT
UNIFORMITY AND WEBSITES, ONLY
USING A DOT GOV DOMAIN. OUR
CONSTITUENTS ARE BEING
CONDITIONED TO BELIEVE THAT ANY
.COM DOT COM DOT ORG OR ANY
EASILY SPOOFED WEBSITE COULD BE
REAL GOVERNMENT INFORMATION.
CALIFORNIA'S LOCAL GOVERNMENT
SHOULD TAKE EVERY EFFORT TO
SAFEGUARD THE PUBLIC'S TRUST IN
OUR INSTITUTIONS, ESPECIALLY
WHEN THEY RISE TO THE LEVEL OF
BEING REQUIREMENTS FOR FEDERAL
GRANTS AND OFFERED FREE OF
CHARGE BY FEDERAL AND STATE
AUTHORITIES, WHICH IS THE CASE
FOR DOT GOV. I WOULD LIKE TO
ACKNOWLEDGE THE PRACTICAL TECH
ASPECTS OF THIS BILL COULD POSE
CHALLENGES TO SOME SMALLER LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS WITH LESS IT
CAPACITY. AND I HAVE BEEN. I AM
COMMITTED TO WORKING WITH THE
OPPOSITION COALITION TO FIND A
WAY TO ADD TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE
INTO THIS BILL. THIS TECHNICAL
ASSISTANCE WAS ACTUALLY DONE IN
NEW HAMPSHIRE, AND MY STAFF IS
IN CONTACT WITH BOTH THE NEW
HAMPSHIRE CEO AS WELL AS
GETTING, UM TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE
SUCH AS A HELP DESK, UH FROM OUR
DEPARTMENT OF TECHNOLOGY OR
OFFICE OF EMERGENCY SERVICES.
BUT I WANT TO NOTE ALSO THAT
MANY LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, LARGE
AND SMALL, URBAN AND RURAL, ARE
ALREADY ON THE DOT GOV DOMAIN
SPOKEN TO, UM, ALL MY CITIES IN
MY DISTRICT AND THE COUNTY OF
VENTURA. THEY HAVE MIGRATED OVER
TO DOT GOV. AND ONE OF MY
SMALLEST CITIES IS IN THE
PROCESS OF MIGRATING OVER TO DOT
GOV. I BELIEVE IT IS IMPORTANT
FOR ALL CALIFORNIA'S, REGARDLESS
OF WHERE THEY LIVE, TO HAVE
CONFIDENCE AND TRUST IN THEIR
ONLINE TRANSACTIONS WITH THEIR
GOVERNMENT. AND FINALLY, I WOULD
LIKE TO THANK THE COMMITTEE FOR
THEIR ANALYSIS AND ACCEPT THE
AMENDMENTS NOTED IN THE
ANALYSIS, WHICH WILL BE ADOPTED
IN THE NEXT POLICY COMMITTEE.
AND, UM THAT'S ALL WE HAVE.
THANK YOU ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S IRWIN
. THOSE AMENDMENTS TO DID ALSO
INCLUDE AH, EXTENDING THE
DEADLINE TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT
MORE TIME. YES WE THE COMMITTEE
HAS ASKED. AND WHEN WE SPOKE
WITH THE OPPOSITION, THEY ASKED
FOR SOME ADDITIONAL TIME AND WE
ADDED A YEAR. GOOD OKAY. GREAT
ANY WITNESSES IN SUPPORT? PLEASE
COME FORWARD. ANY WITNESSES AND
OPPOSITION. PLEASE COME FORWARD,
OKAY? ALL RIGHT. TWO MINUTES
EACH. ARE YOU? ARE YOU. SEPARATE
ORGANIZATIONS SUPPER. YEAH YEAH,
WE HAVE TO MADAM CHAIR DAMON
CONQUER WITH THE LEAGUE OF
CALIFORNIA CITIES WILL KEEP MY
REMARKS BRIEF. WE HAVE A MEMBER
CITY HERO WHO ALL YIELD VERY
GOOD. THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE
THE INTENDED GOAL THIS MEASURE
AND APPRECIATE THE AUTHOR AND
STAFF'S TIME, UH, MEETING WITH
US AND WORKING WITH US, UM WE
REMAIN, HOWEVER DEEPLY CONCERNED
ABOUT THE ADDED COSTS.
ASSOCIATED WITH MIGRATING TO A
NEW DOMAIN NAME, THE SHEER SCOPE
AND SIZE THAT THIS BILL PROPOSES
TO CAPTURE CITIES COUNTIES, FIRE
DISTRICTS POLICE SHERIFF SCHOOLS
, COUNTY HOSPITALS, THE AMOUNT
OF JURISDICTIONS THAT CAPTURES
AND THE HUGE EXPENSE THAT IS
INVOLVED DEEPLY CONCERNS US AND
THAT THE LOCALS JUST WOULD BE
INADEQUATELY PREPARED TO MAKE
THOSE MIGRATIONS EVEN WITH THE
ADJUSTED TIMEFRAME I HAVE WITH
ME THE CHIEF INFORMATIONAL
OFFICER FROM THE CITY OF
ROSEVILLE, WHOSE HAS GONE
THROUGH THE MIGRATION TO AND
HE'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO AT
LEAST SHARE SOME ACTUARY COSTS.
AND ANSWER SOME ADDITIONAL
QUESTIONS. OKAY VERY GOOD.
PLEASE PROCEED. GOOD AFTERNOON,
MADAM VICE CHAIR AND COMMITTEE
MEMBERS. MY NAME IS HONG SE. AND
I'M THE CEO OF THE CITY,
ROSEVILLE. SO ONE OF MY OTHER
CAPACITY SERVED AS THE PREVIOUS
IMMEDIATE PAST PRESIDENTS FOR A
LEAD GROUP OF IT. PROFESSIONALS
CALLED ME SOCK AND I WAS THE
STATEMENT. STATE BOARD MEMBER AS
USUAL AS A TODAY AS WELL, TOO.
SO MISS EXTEND FOR MUNICIPAL
INFORMATION SYSTEM ASSOCIATION
OF CALIFORNIA. IT CONSISTS ABOUT
350 LOCAL GOVERNMENT AGENCY FROM
SAN DIEGO, ALL THE WAY TO
SACRAMENTO TO SAN FRANCISCO. SO
ALL THE CHIEF INFORMATION
OFFICER I T LEADERSHIP GROUP IS
IN THAT GROUPS OUT THERE. SO
THIS MEASURES OUT HERE WILL
REQUIRE THOUSANDS OF CALIFORNIA
LOCAL GOVERNMENT CITY COUNTY
SPECIAL DISTRICT. MUNICIPAL
UTILITY WATER PARKS, SHERIFF
SCHOOL DISTRICT AND ALSO COUNTY
HOSPITALS, AND ALL THAT WOULD
REQUIRE US TO MOVE OVER TO A
DARK GIRLS DOMAIN AND AS WELL AS
CHANGING OUR EMAIL ADDRESS.
THREE MAJOR COMPONENTS OUT HERE
ONE IS COST EXPENDITURE TO IS
TIMING AND ALSO THE FUNDING THAT
ARE AVAILABLE TO US AND ALSO 30
IS ABOUT SECURITY. SO NUMBER ONE
COSTS WHILE APPLYING FOR
OBTAINING A DOT GOV. DOMAIN
LITERALLY HAS NO FEES, BUT THERE
ARE OTHER SIGNIFICANT COST TO IT
. WEBSITE HAS THOUSANDS OF LINES
OF CODING CHANGES. MOBILE APP. A
D A COMPLIANCE YOUR VENDORS
YOU'RE PAYING FOR CREDIT CARDS.
ALL THOSE CHANGES WOULD HAVE TO
TAKE PLACE SIGNIFICANTLY. WE ARE
TALKING ABOUT APPROXIMATELY 3000
AGENCY IN THE WHOLE ENTIRE STATE
OF CALIFORNIA THAT WOULD HAVE TO
MIGRATE THROUGH THIS PROCESS OUT
HERE IN LESS THAN A YEAR,
TIMEFRAMES. FOR EXAMPLE, ONE
LARGE GOVERNMENT RECENTLY WENT
THROUGH THE PROCESS OF MIGRATING
TO A DOCTOR OF DOMAIN REQUIRE 15
FULL TIME STAFF MEMBERS PLUS
CONTRACTORS AND ALL THAT AND
TALKS ABOUT 12,000 HOURS OF
EMPLOYEE TIMING CONTRACTOR TO GO
THROUGH THOSE PROCESS. SO IT'S
DAMON MENTIONS OUT HERE. IT'S
ROSEVILLE HAS GONE THROUGH A
WEBSITE CHANGES. IT TOOK US
ALMOST TWO YEARS OF THE WHOLE
ENTIRE PROCESS JUST TO MIGRATE
OUR WEBSITE OVER. THAT'S JUST
ALONE IN CITY ROCIO ITSELF.
SECOND IT'S ABOUT TIMING, SO I
ALSO SERVE AND THE CALLOW YES,
AND DEPARTMENT OF CALIFORNIA
OFFICE OF EMERGENCY SERVICES ON
THEIR CYBERSECURITY INVESTMENT
TIME INVESTMENT TASK FORCE, SO
CURRENTLY THERE ARE NO FEDERAL
AND ALSO STATE REQUIREMENT FOR
US TO MOVE THE DOT GOV
REQUIREMENTS OUT THEIR THIRD AND
FINAL SOUTH. HERE I'LL BE I'LL
BE STRETCHED SECURITY WHILE
OBTAINING A DOMAIN NAME FOR DARK
GIRL. MAYBE AN AUTHORIZED
CREDENTIAL AS MENTIONED FROM THE
STAFF MEMBER, BUT DOMAIN NAMES
SECURITY. IT'S NOT EASILY
HACKABLE FROM ANYONE THAT ARE
OUT THERE. BOTTOM LINE IS THAT
WE RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR THIS
BILLS, EVEN THOUGH LOOKING AT
THE FRONT END IS SECURITY, BUT
AT A VERY HIGH COST IN A SHORT
AMOUNT OF TIME THAT WE HAVE TO
MOVE THROUGH MOUNTAINS JUST TO
GET THINGS TO GET DONE OUT
THERE. IN THE END OF IT, WE HAVE
TO BALANCE BOTH OF OUR LIVES ON
CYBERSECURITY AND LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS. SO WE LOOK FORWARD
IN FUTURE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S OFFICE AND
UPDATING THIS BILLS. OKAY THANK
YOU. NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE. THANK
YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON, DOROTHY
JOHNSON, WITH THE ASSOCIATION OF
CALIFORNIA SCHOOL ADMINISTRATORS
NOT USED TO BEING IN LOCAL
GOVERNMENT. THE PLEASURE TO BE
HERE, MADAM CHAIR. WE SHARE MANY
OF THE MAIN SAME CONCERNS AS OUR
LOCAL GOVERNMENT COLLEAGUES. FOR
US THE HOWEVER ON THE FISCAL
HIT, WE ARE LOOKING AT PROP $98
THAT ARE OTHERWISE SPENT ON
SCHOOL PROGRAM. STUDENTS
CLASSROOMS, EMPLOYER EMPLOYEE
SALARIES AND OTHER PENSION
LIABILITIES. WE DO ALSO
APPRECIATE THE COMMITTEE'S
ANALYSIS AND THE AUTHOR, UM,
CONSIDERING THE TIMELINE CHANGE
FOR IMPLEMENTATION, HOWEVER,
MIDYEAR THROUGH THE SCHOOL YEAR
COULD CREATE FURTHER
COMPLICATIONS AS WE MOVE FROM
DOT E D U OR K 12 DOT CA.GOV US.
TO A DOT GOV WEBSITE, SO I HOPE
WE CAN CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION
IMPLEMENTATION. AND THEN WHILE
SCHOOL ADMINISTRATORS TAKE
CYBERSECURITY SERIOUSLY TO
PROTECT THE LOCAL AGENCY DATA,
STUDENT DATA EMPLOYEE DATA, WE
HAVE INVESTED SIGNIFICANT LOCAL
DOLLARS IN THIS AND WOULD BE
CONCERNED THAT THIS MIGHT DIVERT
OR, UM, DELAY SOME OF THE LOCAL
PROGRAMS IN ORDER TO PUT FORWARD
THE DOT GOV. UM SECURITY
MEASURES, SO WE REMAIN OPPOSED,
LESS AMENDED AND LOOK FORWARD TO
THE CONVERSATION. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALRIGHT WE
HAVE OTHER WITNESSES AND
OPPOSITION COME FORWARD. THANK
YOU, MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS JEAN
HURST HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF
THE URBAN COUNTIES OF CALIFORNIA
LIKE TO ALIGN OUR POSITION WITH
OPPONENTS TESTIFYING TODAY.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS
ERIN NAVY WITH THE CALIFORNIA
SPECIAL DISTRICTS ASSOCIATION,
ALSO RESPECTFULLY OPPOSED UNLESS
AMENDED. THANK YOU. CAITLYN DEAN
, CALIFORNIA STATE ASSOCIATION
OF COUNTIES WANT TO THANK THE
AUTHOR AND HER STAFF AND ALSO
ALIGN OUR COMMENTS WITH THE
OPPOSITION TODAY. THANK YOU.
UNLESS IS STILL HIGH ON BEHALF
OF THE CITY CLERK'S ASSOCIATION
OF CALIFORNIA AND ALSO REDWOOD
CITY. ALSO ALIGNING OUR COMMENTS
WITH THE LEAGUE OPPOSITION.
THANK YOU. VERY GOOD BRINGING IT
UP HERE TO THE COMMITTEE. YES,
MISS PARKER. YES I JUST WANTED
TO ALSO, UH, SAY, YOU KNOW, I'M
CONCERNED ABOUT THIS BILL
BECAUSE OF LIKE WHAT THE
OPPOSITION SAID. I COME FROM
LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND DOWNEY. WE
DIDN'T HAVE A DOT GOV. UH IT WAS
DOWNEY CA.GOV ARGUE. THOSE ARE
PROTECTED DANICA DOT ORG AND
IT'S OUR DOWNEY POLICE
DEPARTMENT THAT USES THE SAME
DON'T YOU KNOW .ORG. AH AH, AND
SO MY CONCERN IS, UH DOWN IS THE
BIGGEST CITY IN MY DISTRICT AND
I HAVE A LOT OF SMALLER CITIES,
UH, WHO MAY NOT BE ABLE TO
COMPLY WITH THIS. UM AND SO
THAT'S MY CONCERN THAT TIME THAT
IT WOULD TAKE THE CONFUSION FOR
A LOT OF RESIDENTS. A LOT OF
RESIDENTS WERE USED TO EMAILING
ME AT THE DOWNEY CA .ORG.
THEY'RE USED TO EMAILING AH,
STAFF ON THAT AND THE OTHER
COUNCIL MEMBERS, SO I'M KIND OF
WORRIED ABOUT THAT CONFUSION,
THE AMOUNT OF RESOURCES SO I
ACTUALLY, UM UM, YOU KNOW, I
UNDERSTAND THE OPPOSITION, SO
I'M HOPING THAT YOU CAN ALL WORK
TOGETHER. AH BECAUSE I HAVE
CONCERNS BEFORE MY SMALLER
CITIES. THANK YOU ANY OTHER
COMMENTS SO I CAN I JUST HAVE
SOMEBODY YOU WOULDN'T LIKE THE
AUTHOR. SO I JUST TO ANSWER THE
BILL DOES ALLOW YOU TO CONTINUE
TO USE THE SAME YOU RL AND JUST
POINT TO THE DOT GOV WEBSITE,
AND OBVIOUSLY I COME FROM LOCAL
GOVERNMENT TO, BUT IT IS
ACTUALLY THE SMALLEST CITIES
THAT ARE MOST AT RISK IF THEY
ARE NOT SECURE. AND IT IS THE
RESIDENTS OF THE SMALLEST CITIES
THAT ARE IN THE MOST VULNERABLE
POSITION IF THEY DON'T IF THEY
HAVE A U. R L THAT CAN BE EASILY
SPOOFED TO GET A DOT GOV U R L
YOU HAVE TO PROVE THAT YOU ARE
ACTUALLY A GOVERNMENT TO GET A
.COM DOT COM OR ONE OF THE OTHER
DOT ORG WEBSITE. YOU JUST
PURCHASE IT FOR A PENNY. SO UM,
I AM. WE ARE QUITE AWARE THAT IT
IS GOING TO BE FOR SOME CITIES A
LONGER PROCESS. WE HAVE ASKED
FOR AMENDMENTS, HOW LONG IT
ACTUALLY WOULD TAKE BUT I HAVE
TO SAY THAT WHEN THE ASK WAS TO
MAKE IT VOLUNTARY. IT HAS BEEN
VOLUNTARY SINCE 2002 AND SO WE
REALLY NEED GOVERNMENT TO MOVE
IN THIS DIRECTION BECAUSE IT'S
NOT ONLY ABOUT A SAFER WEBSITE.
IT REQUIRES, UH TWO STEP
AUTHENTICATION AND PRE LOADING
DOCUMENTS. AND I MEAN, THERE ARE
DEFINITELY THERE ARE SAFETY
MEASURES IN DOT GOV. IT'S NOT
EVERYTHING TO KEEP THE CITY
SAFE. BUT THE EXACT CITY. THE
EXACT ORGANIZATIONS WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT. LET'S SAY WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT WATER DISTRICTS.
IF IT IF THIS MAKES IT MORE
DIFFICULT TO HACK, WE ARE ALL
SAFE FOR A WATER DISTRICT BEING
HACKED IS EXTREMELY PROBLEMATIC
. L A U S. D. HOW MUCH MONEY DID
THEY SPEND DEALING WITH THE HACK
? THEY HAD SO AND YOU KNOW THAT
THEY'LL SAY WELL DOT GOV IS NOT
THE ANSWER TO EVERYTHING. NO OF
COURSE NOT. IT'S BUT IT IS A
VERY STRONG PART OF AN OVERALL
SYSTEM. TO MAKE ALL OF US IN
CALIFORNIA SAY FOR THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT IS ALREADY REQUIRING
IT FOR ALL STATES THAT HAVE
TAKEN FEDERAL GRANTS, WHICH
CALIFORNIA HAS TAKEN EVERY
SINGLE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO HAVE TO
MIGRATE OVER AND THOSE ARE HUGE
DEPARTMENTS, BUT THERE ARE
DEFINITELY AUTOMATION TOOLS. AND
WHILE I AM SURE THAT THE
ROSEVILLE EXPERIENCE WAS A VERY
LONG EXPERIENCE, WE SPOKE TO THE
I T FOLKS IN THIS COUNTY OF
ENTER LARA AND WE CAN ASK THE
YOU KNOW WE CAN CERTAINLY CALL
THE COUNTY OF VENTURA UP. TO
COME TO I T PEOPLE ONE WEEK AND
SO THERE IS A LARGE RANGE
DEPENDING, OF COURSE, ON WHAT
THE I T CAPABILITIES ARE OF THE
CITY OR THE COUNTY. BUT WE'RE
WORKING ALSO ON GETTING A HELP
DESK SOURCES SORT OF A DOT GOV.
UM IN A BOX AT CALA. UH OH, YES
OR, UM. OR AT THE DEPARTMENT OF
TECHNOLOGY. WE'RE STILL WORKING
ON THAT PART AND THERE IS
ALREADY ONE GRANT FUNDING SOURCE
SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS, WHICH IS
A CYBERSECURITY GRANT PROGRAM,
WHICH INCLUDE THAT FUNDING IS TO
MIGRATE. THIS IS A FEDERAL
FUNDING TO MIGRATE. UM UH,
WEBSITES OVER TWO THE DOT GOV
WEBSITE. IN ADDITION, THERE ARE
OTHER HOMELAND SECURITY GRANTS
THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO AND WE'RE
LOOKING AT WHERE ELSE WE CAN
FIND FUNDING BUT TO SAY THE
SMALLEST CITIES CAN'T DO IT. WE
KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE MORE
DIFFICULT, BUT THEY ARE ALSO
ABSOLUTELY MORE VULNERABLE IF
THEY GET HACKED AND THEIR
RESIDENTS CAN BE EASILY FOOLED
INTO, UM INTO CLICKING A LINK
AND BEING HACKED AND SENDING
MAYBE MONEY FOR A BILL AND OVER
TO WHAT THEY THINK IS CITY
GOVERNMENT. SO UNFORTUNATELY,
THIS IS A PAINFUL STEP. I AGAIN
I UNDERSTAND THE ISSUES THAT
LOCAL GOVERNMENTS HAVE, BUT BUT
I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY
IRRESPONSIBLE NOT TO START THIS
PROCESS. JUST ONE JUST ONE MORE
THING I AND I DO UNDERSTAND
ABOUT THE HIKE, HACKING AND
CYBER SECURITY. I'LL JUST
BRIEFLY STATE THERE. I KNOW THE
CITY WOULD THINK IT WAS LAST
YEAR. I WAS ARMANI. UH THEY
ACTUALLY COULDN'T EVEN HOLD
COUNCIL MEETINGS BECAUSE THEIR
EMAILS WERE HACKING. THE WHOLE
SYSTEM WENT DOWN. UH, AND I
BELIEVE THEY WERE. THEY WERE OUT
11 OR TWO COUNCIL MEETINGS THAT
THEY WEREN'T EVEN ABLE TO HOLD.
SO I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THAT
PART TOO WELL, AND SO IT'S JUST
IT'S JUST A BALANCE. IT'S
PAINFUL, BUT WE WANT TO WORK AND
GET TO A SOLUTION AND AGAIN AS I
TALKED TO INDIVIDUAL CITIES IN
MY COUNTY, WHETHER THERE OR END
L. A COUNTY WHETHER THEY'RE
THERE YET OR NOT, THEY ALL ARE
SAYING THAT THEY KNOW THEY NEED
TO GET THERE. OH YES. PLEASE GO
AHEAD. THANK YOU. VICE CHAIR,
JACKSON. THANK YOU TO THE
AUTHORS FOR BRINGING THIS
FORWARD. I KNOW YOUR FOCUS HAS
ALWAYS BEEN ON CYBER SECURITY
AND KEEPING PEOPLE SAFE AND
THESE TYPES OF ISSUES AND YOU'VE
BEEN A LEADER ON THAT FRONT, NOT
ONLY IN TERMS OF MAKING SURE
THAT WE AS A STATE GOVERNMENT,
UM TAKE CARE OF EVERY SINGLE
AGENCY IN THIS REGARD, BUT EVEN
THE LEGISLATORS MAKING SURE THAT
WE'RE ALL PROTECTED EVEN BECAUSE
WE ARE VULNERABLE AND A LOT OF
WAYS DUE TO OUR POSITION. MY
CONCERN IS RELATED TO, UM CITIES
AND NOT JUST SMALL LARGE MEDIUM
DOESN'T MATTER, UM TWO COUNTIES
AND ALSO TO EVEN THE SCHOOL
DISTRICTS THEM CHANGING THEIR
DESIGNATION FROM GOD OR CA.GOV
FROM E D. U K 12 C A U S. WHICH
HAS BEEN, UM PRETTY SAFE, I
WOULD SAY, UH, REGARD FOR OUR
EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM. PUBLIC
ENTITIES AND MORE. WHAT IT WAS
RELATED TO IS THE TIMING. SO YOU
TALKED ABOUT THAT THIS HAS BEEN
A VOLUNTARY PROGRAM FROM FOR A
NUMBER OF YEARS, AND PEOPLE HAVE
NOT VOLUNTEERED TO GO, WHICH A
LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE HAVE TO BE
VOLUNTARY OLD. WHICH IS WHAT
YOU'RE TRANSITIONING TO. UM AND
SO MY CONCERN IS THAT GOING FROM
SUCH A LONG TIME TO VOLUNTEER
OPPORTUNITY UM TO THEN,
IMMEDIATELY NOW YOU MUST DO IT.
YOU MUST DO IT. AND NOW A YEAR
AND A HALF WITH THE EXTENSION OF
A YEAR STILL SEEMS TOO SHORT. IT
SEEMS LIKE A ONE SIZE FITS ALL
APPROACH. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT
THE COUNTY OF VENTURA BEING, YOU
KNOW, A WEEK OR TWO WEEKS AND WE
HAVE THE CITY OF ROSEVILLE,
SAYING IT TOOK TWO YEARS AND THE
FACT THAT AND, UM WHEN MOST
CITIES COUNTIES, UM LOCAL
AGENCIES RECEIVED FUNDING THEY
THERE WAS A PORTION IN THEIR
RELATED TO UPGRADING THEIR
SYSTEMS, UM, PROVIDING MORE
OPPORTUNITIES TO HAVE VIRTUAL
AGENCY WHETHER IT'S VIRTUAL CITY
HALL VIRTUAL COUNTY GOVERNMENT,
YOU KNOW ALL THOSE THINGS. SO A
LOT OF CITIES IF YOU LOOK AT,
I'M SURE IF YOU DID A SURVEY. I
KNOW I SAW A BIT BECAUSE BEFORE
I CAME HERE, THAT'S WHAT I WAS
DOING AS MAYOR RIGHT AND SERVING
ON CALLE CITIES AND BEING VICE
PRESIDENT OF THE NORTH BAY
LEAGUE. THAT WAS PART OF WHAT WE
TALKED ABOUT IS HOW MUCH DOLLARS
WE WERE SPENDING FROM ARBA. TO
UPGRADE OUR SYSTEMS TO PROVIDE
THEM TO MORE CIRCUIT TO BE MORE
SECURE. A LOT OF RESOURCES HAVE
RECENTLY BEEN SPENT. AND SO IT
WOULD SEEM LIKE AN ONLY A
NATURAL REACTION OF HER
TRANSITIONING FROM VOLUNTEERING
TO BEING VOLUNTEER OLD TO GIVE
SOME LENGTH OF TIME, POTENTIALLY
FIVE YEARS UP TO FIVE YEARS SO
THAT CITIES COUNTIES AGENCY CAN
DO IT AT THEIR NORMAL INTERVALS
. AND WHEN THEY GO IN AND
UPGRADE SITES, SO I TAKE IT FOR
EXAMPLE OF MY CITY. MY CITY IS
TOO SOON .COM S U I S U N .COM
AND HAS BEEN FOR A NUMBER OF
YEARS. YEARS WE NAVIGATED YEARS
BEFORE I WAS ON THE COUNCIL AWAY
FROM THE TWO SOON CITY. DOT GOV
BECAUSE IT WAS CONFUSING. WE HAD
TWO NAMES. PEOPLE WERE MAKING
ALL KIND OF STUFF, AND SO THEY
SWITCHED TO A SIMPLER SO SOON
DOT COM. UM AND WE STILL HAVE
THE GOV. RIGHT IT'S STILL EXISTS
SOMEWHERE. NOTHING IS ON IT. UM
BUT WE DID THAT. AND WE DID A
WHOLE OVERALL OF OUR SITE AND
ALL THAT STUFF AND IN ABOUT FIVE
YEARS THAT MY CITY WOULD BE
READY FOR A REFRESH. WE DON'T
HAVE RESOURCES TO SPEND ON IT AT
THIS PARTICULAR MOMENT TO
TOTALLY MIGRATE OUR ENTIRE SITE
. EVERY SINGLE NEW APP WE BOUGHT
THAT WAS INTEGRATED INTO THE
SYSTEM ARE NEW ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT TOOL THAT WE HAVE
NOW THAT IS INTEGRATED IN OUR
AND TOTALLY WITHIN. YOU KNOW OUR
SYSTEM BASED ON THIS ASSUME .COM
THE RESOURCES AND THE MANPOWER
ARE NOT THERE, BUT I KNOW WITHIN
THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, THEY WOULD
BE BECAUSE WE WOULD
AUTOMATICALLY BE DOING THAT
REFRESH THEN. AND SO I THINK IF
WE'RE MOVING FROM A VOLUNTEER TO
VOLUNTEER OLD DO YOU HAVE TO DO
IT? UM IS THAT THERE DOES NEED
TO BE THAT ALLOWANCE OF TIME TO
HAVE IT IN THE NATURAL
PROGRESSIONS. MOST CITIES SHOULD
NOT GO THAT LONG WITHOUT
REFRESHING THEIR I T JUST
BECAUSE THE NATURE OF HACKS AND
THINGS LIKE THAT, SO THAT IS MY
BIGGEST CONCERN IS AND I KNOW I
EXPRESSED THAT BEFORE ABOUT
THAT, PLUS COST, AND THE COST IS
NOT THE COST TO DO. IT IS THE
COST. RELATED TO DO IT IN THE
TIMING THAT'S ALLOWED. THIS SAYS
THAT NOW YOU HAVE TO RUSH AND DO
IT IN A YEAR AND A HALF VERSUS
HAVING IT BE THE NATURAL
PROGRESSION. OKAY. BY THE TIME
YOU DO YOUR NEXT REFRESH, THIS
IS WHAT YOU HAVE TO. YOU'RE NOT
ALLOWED TO DO ANYTHING ELSE, AND
THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO, UM HAVE
THAT INCLUDED AS YOU GO FORWARD
AND? AND AT THAT TIME WHEN THAT
WHEN I SEE THE WORD TIME I THINK
THAT WILL BE WHEN I'LL BE ABLE
TO YOU KNOW, SUPPORT YOUR YOUR
BILL, BUT I THINK THE EFFORT
INTENT IS ABSOLUTELY SPOT ON AND
MEET IT. THE SO THE COMMITTEE
HAS ADDED. WE HAVE TWO YEARS
RIGHT NOW AND WE ARE. YOU KNOW,
WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN ANY FEEDBACK
ABOUT WHAT A REASONABLE TIME IS
FROM THE COALITION OPPOSED AND
SO WE ARE CERTAINLY OPEN TO
WHATEVER IS REASONABLE WE DON'T
WANT WE KNOW THIS IS THIS IS A
YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT EASY FOR
CERTAIN. FOR CERTAIN GOVERNMENT
TO DO IT, BUT BUT WE HAVE TO DO
IT AT SOME POINT, IT HAS TO BE
DONE. SO, UM WE'LL FIND IF AS
SOON AS THEY GIVE US A TIMEFRAME
, AS OPPOSED TO SAYING MAKE IT
VOLUNTARY, THEN WE ARE HAPPY TO
INCORPORATE THAT. GO AHEAD. GO
AHEAD. SO GOING OFF WITH THAT.
I'M JUST WANT TO HEAR FROM THE
OPPOSITION. DO YOU HAVE A
TIMELINE THAT YOU HAVE IN MIND?
UM AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE ONE
RIGHT NOW, UH, I'M HOPING YOU
COULD TALK TO THE AUTHOR ABOUT
IT. BUT I'M CURIOUS. I FIVE
YEARS UM, AND AGAIN, YOU DON'T
HAVE TO ANSWER IT, BUT I'M
CURIOUS IF YOU DO HAVE A
TIMELINE THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I
APPRECIATE IT. UM WELL, WE
DEFINITELY WOULD WELCOME. UH A
EXTENSION OF FIVE YEARS. UM I
THINK THE WOULD DEFINITELY HELP
. UM PROVIDE AN ADDITIONAL KIND
OF GRACE PERIOD FOR A LOT OF
LOCAL JURISDICTIONS THAT ARE ON
THE CUSP, OR AT LEAST NOT AS
WELL HEELED AS OTHERS. UM FOR US
, PHILOSOPHICALLY A ANOTHER
UNFUNDED MANDATE. UM WHILE WE
RECOGNIZE IN THE AUTHOR HAS BEEN
ACCURATE TO ILLUMINATE PATHWAYS
TO EXISTING GRANTS. THOSE ARE
PALTRY IN NATURE COMPARED TO THE
SCOPE AND SIZE AND THOSE ARE
FIRST COME FIRST SERVE AND, UH,
AS WE LEARNED LAST ARBOR RUNS
THAT THERE WERE A LOT OF CITIES
THAT JUST DIDN'T HAVE THE LABOR
ON STAFF OF INDIVIDUALS TO EVEN
WRITE THE GRANTS IDENTIFYING
RIGHT THE GRANTS, LET ALONE
APPLY FOR THEM AND NOW HAVING TO
COMPETE AGAINST FIRE COUNTY
HOSPITALS. AND QUITE FRANKLY,
JUST NOT AWARE OF THE PROBLEM.
THAT IS, IS THAT THIS BILL KIND
OF PURPORTS TO SOLVE SO HAPPY TO
WORK WITH THE AUTHOR ON LOOKING
AT EXTENSIONS. I THINK
ADDITIONAL TIME IS WELCOMED. I
CAN'T SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE
OTHERS IN THE COALITION FOR FIRE
AND HOSPITALS AND OTHERS. BUT
WOULD WOULD DEFINITELY WELCOME
UM, THE ADDITIONAL TIME. THANK
YOU. AND I'M JUST CURIOUS TO
HEAR FROM YOU TO SEE WHAT YOU
THINK ABOUT IT. I KNOW IT'S TWO
DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS. SURE
AND SO WE WORK WITH SITE, WHICH
IS THE CALIFORNIA INFORMATION
TECHNOLOGY. UH EDUCATORS. THANK
YOU, MISS AC AS WELL AS OTHERS.
SO WE'RE STILL REVIEWING THIS
MEASURE WITH THEIR INTERESTS,
BUT ADDITIONAL TIME IS
DEFINITELY APPRECIATED. AND EVEN
WE SEE THIS WITH A LOT OF SCHOOL
FACILITY BUILDS UPON YOUR NEXT
UPDATE. THAT'S WHEN YOU WOULD
INTEGRATE IT MUCH TO THE
COMMITTEE MEMBERS COMMENT ABOUT
NOT NECESSARILY A SPECIFIC TIME
FRAME. BUT UPON YOUR NEXT YOU
KNOW, CERTAIN UPDATES ARE MADE.
THAT WOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE
TIME BECAUSE THE INVESTMENT HAS
BEEN MADE, AND IT IS PART OF A
SORT OF CYCLICAL PROCESS THAT
HAS BUDGETED FOR AND PLANNED FOR
ALREADY, SO THAT INTEGRATION, I
THINK WOULD BE A REALLY STRONG
ADJUSTMENT. HI. SORRY. CAN I
MENTION ONE THING? I ECHOES BOTH
LEGAL CALIFORNIA CITY AND ALSO
THE SCHOOL DISTRICT
ADMINISTRATORS COMMENTS OUT
HERE, BUT COULD CYBERSECURITY
MEASUREMENT IS NOT JUST ABOUT
CHANGING OUR DOMAIN NAME TOO DOT
GOV. IT'S ABOUT HAVING GREAT
PEOPLE, TALENTED WORKFORCE
TRAINING, A GOOD PROCESS IN
PLACE AND EDUCATION, TRAININGS
AND ALL THAT AND AWARENESS AND
ALSO GOOD TECHNOLOGIES THAT ARE
IN THE ALL COMBINATIONS DOT GOV
DOMAIN NAME IS JUST A SINGLE
COMPONENTS OF ALL OF IT. ANY
OTHER QUESTIONS. UH OH. JUST AT
THE RISK OF ASKING ONE MORE
QUESTION DID YOU COULDN'T HEAR
CLEARLY ON A D U S, LIKE THE U.
C SYSTEM AND AS WELL THEY HAVE
THE E D YOU CHANGED TOO DOT GOV
. SO E D U IS ONLY I THINK IT'S
ONLY HIGHER ED. OKAY AND THAT
WOULD WHAT? SORRY BIÂU. SO WE
HAVE LOCAL ENTITY. UM LOCAL CITY
. SORRY SCHOOL DISTRICTS, UM,
COUNTY OFFICE OF EDUCATION THAT
USE CDO AS PART OF THEIR THAT
REMAIN. EDU NOT UNDER THIS,
BILL. O OKAY? ALRIGHT, OKAY.
ALRIGHT ANY OTHER FIRM THERE
FURTHER QUESTIONS. WHY DON'T WE
CALL? I JUST WANT TO SAY HIGHER
EDUCATION HAS NOT COME TO US
WITH ANY CONCERNS. OKAY?
ALRIGHT. AH! MADAM SECRETARY
SHOULD CALL. DO WE HAVE A
MOTION? OKAY? AND LET'S CALL THE
FOR THE VOTE PASSED TO PRIVACY
AND CONSUMER PROTECTION. EXCUSE
ME. DID YOU MAKE YOUR QUOTE INTO
COMMENT? NO, I, UH I APPRECIATE
OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH, UM WITH
ALL THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AND WE
ARE CERTAINLY WILLING TO. WE
HAVE A LONG PROCESS WHERE
CERTAINLY WILLING TO WORK ON
THAT. UM, AS WAS MENTIONED YOU
THE DOT GOV IS ONLY PART OF THE
SOLUTION. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT
THAT LOCAL GOVERNMENTS DO
EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO PROTECT
THEMSELVES AND THEIR
CONSTITUENTS AND THEIR FINANCES
TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN KEEP
OPERATING. SO WE WILL NOT SAY
THIS IS THE BE ALL END ALL BUT
WE WILL SAY IT AT THE FEDERAL
LEVEL. IT IS BEING MANDATED. AND
UM, AND ONE THING I WANT TO SAY
ABOUT THE FIVE YEARS IS THAT THE
GRANT FUNDING IS, UM, WILL BE
EXPIRED BEFORE FIVE YEARS, SO
IT'S IT'LL BE REALLY IMPORTANT
FOR US TO FIND OUT EXACTLY WHAT
A REASONABLE TIMEFRAME IS, BUT
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
GRANTS ARE AVAILABLE. OKAY NOW
WE'LL GO TO MADAM SECRETARY,
PASTOR PRIVACY AND CONSUMER
PROTECTION DIXON. I BURNER
JACOB. CHECK. I RAMOS. PROMISE I
RIVAS. RIVERSIDE WALDRON. HE
STEPPED OUT. WILSON, NOT VOTING.
WILSON, NOT VOTING AGUIAR-CURRY.
OKAY WHERE ARE WE? THIS NEEDS
MORE VOTES. THE BILL IS ON CALL
. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. WHERE ARE WE NOW? DO WE GO
BACK TO THIS? WILSON? NOW NOW,
MY GOD CARD. YOU KEEP GETTING
PUSHED OUT. ALRIGHT? DOES
SOMEBODY MEMBER MCCARTHY PLEASE
COME FORWARD? MAYBE. 15 OH,
FOUR. THANK YOU, MADAM VICE
CHAIR. THIS IS, OF COURSE, A
LOCAL GOVERNMENT COMMITTEE. THIS
IS KIND OF A HYBRID BILL WITH
TRANSPORTATION, LOCAL GOVERNMENT
AND, FRANKLY DEALING WITH
NATURAL RESOURCES AND OUR AIR
QUALITY. SO IF WE'RE GOING TO
TACKLE OUR CLIMATE CHANGE AND
AIR QUALITY, UM, GOALS IN
CALIFORNIA, WE NEED TO ADDRESS
OUR FLEET AND THAT'S OUR
AUTOMOBILES AND MOBILE SOURCES.
WE KNOW THAT AND SO AS WELL AS
GETTING 100% CLEAN CARS ON THE
ROAD IN THE NEXT DECADE, A BIG
FOCUSES ON INFRASTRUCTURE AND
ZEV INFRASTRUCTURE CHARGING
INFRASTRUCTURE, NOT JUST THE
GRID, BUT PLUG INS, WHETHER
THEY'RE AT YOUR RESIDENTIAL OR
CURBSIDE OR AT AT SITES ACROSS
CALIFORNIA. FIRST OF ALL, THANK
THE COMMITTEE STAFF FOR WORKING
WITH US ON THIS BILL, AND WE
APPRECIATE HELPING COME UP WITH
SOME TWEAKS ALONG THE WAY, AND
ALSO I WANT TO NOTE THAT WE HAVE
WORKED WITH THE OPPOSITION WILL
HEAR FROM EARLIER AND WE'VE I
THINK I GOT CLOSER WITH THEM,
BUT CONTINUED TO WORK WITH THEM
. MOST OF AMENDMENTS AND MOST OF
THE RECENT AMENDMENTS HAVE TAKEN
AWAY THE OPPOSITION'S PREVIOUS
AND PRIMARY CONCERNS. BUT AGAIN
, WE'RE STILL COMMITTED SO AGAIN
IN ORDER TO MAKE OUR STATES
COULD CONTINUED QUEST TO LEAD
THE WORLD OF CLIMATE CHANGE AND
CLEAN ENERGY. WE NEED TO FOCUS
ON ZERO EMISSION TRANSPORTATION
INFRASTRUCTURE. THIS BILL
ACCELERATES CALIFORNIA'S ABILITY
TO DO JUST THAT. SPECIFICALLY
THIS MEASURE ASKED CITIES AND
COUNTIES TO INCLUDE CURBSIDE
CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE PLANS,
UM IN THEIR IN THEIR LOCAL
GOVERNMENT PLANS AND ASKED THE
CALIFORNIA ENERGY COMMISSION TO
ACCESS WHAT IS NEEDED TO MEET
THOSE GOALS. CALIFORNIA
RESIDENTS, A LOT OF RESIDENTS
AND APARTMENT COMPLEXES DON'T
HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PLUG IN.
UM AT THEIR HOME, AND THE
REALITY IS THREE QUARTERS OF
PEOPLE WHO HAVE ELECTRIC CARS,
INCLUDING SOME PEOPLE ON THIS
DIETS PROBABLY CHARGE AT HOME.
BUT THE TO THE QUARTER THAT
DON'T HAVE TO GO TO CHARGING
LOCATIONS, BUT MANY TIMES THEY
COULD DO IT ON THE STREET IF
THEY HAD PROPER CURBSIDE
CHARGING LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ARE
ATTEMPTING TO DO THIS, BUT JUST
FRANKLY, NOT FAST ENOUGH, AND
NOT IN THE NEW, MORE EXPLOITED
MANNER, WHICH WE NEED TO DO WITH
ME TODAY IS ONE OF THE
SUPPORTERS AND SPONSORS OF THE
BILL. FLOW ENERGY ASKING, WE
HEAR FROM THEM AND LATER ASK FOR
YOUR VOTE. THANK YOU. GOOD
AFTERNOON, MADAM VICE CHAIR AND
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. I'M COREY
BULLETS ON BEHALF OF FLOW E V
CHARGING HERE IN STRONG SUPPORT
OF A B 15 OH, FOUR. I WOULD ALSO
REALLY LIKE TO START BY THANKING
THE COMMITTEE STAFF FOR THEIR
HARD WORK AND RESEARCH AND
COLLABORATION WITH US TO EVOLVE
THE BILL AND MAKE ULTIMATELY
WHAT I THINK IS A STRONGER BILL.
JUST TO KIND OF ADD SOME STATS
OR FINER POINTS TO WHAT THE
ASSEMBLY MEMBER COMMENTED ON.
NEARLY 50% OF CALIFORNIANS LIVE
IN MULTI FAMILY HOUSING. AND YET
, ACCORDING TO THE CALIFORNIA
ENERGY COMMISSION, WHEN THEY DID
A SURVEY OF THOSE RESIDENTS, NO
MORE THAN 33% OF THOSE RESIDENTS
CAN ACCESS HOME CHARGING, AND
THEY THIS STUDY ALSO FOUND THAT
PEOPLE WHO ARE TYPICALLY LOWER
INCOME AND PEOPLE OF COLOR TEND
TO HAVE LOWER ACCESS TO HOME
CHARGING AND REALLY HOME
CHARGING IS ONE OF THE MOST
CONVENIENT COST EFFECTIVE
OPTIONS TO HELP DRIVE E V
ADOPTION. SO IF YOU CANNOT
ACCESS HOME CHARGING, YOU KNOW
WHAT ARE THE ALTERNATIVES, AND
THERE'S CERTAINLY A SUITE OF
OPTIONS THAT THE STATE AND THE
LOCALS ARE WORKING ON BUT WE SEE
CURBSIDE CHARGING AS A REALLY,
REALLY IMPORTANT EQUITY TOOL TO
INCREASE EQUITABLE ACCESS TO
HOME CHARGING, AND THAT'S
ESSENTIALLY BECAUSE AS THE
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S TOUCHED ON, YOU
CAN BE CITING THESE CHARGERS IN
THE RIGHT OF WAY ADJACENT TO A
MULTI FAMILY HOUSING PROJECT. WE
AT FLOW HAVE MULTIPLE CURBSIDE
CHARGING PROJECTS ACROSS NORTH
AMERICA. WE HAVE 1000 CURBSIDE
CHARGERS WITH THE CITY OF
MONTREAL. WE HAVE NEARLY 400
WITH THE CITY OF L A. AND WE
HAVE MULTIPLE OTHER DEPLOYMENTS
ACROSS THE U. S AND CANADA. AND
REALLY, THAT'S ONE OF THE MOST
IMPORTANT BENEFITS WERE SEEN
WITH CURBSIDE CHARGING IS THAT
IT ALLOWS US TO MORE EQUITABLY
DEPLOY CHARGERS IN AREAS THAT
MIGHT NOT OTHERWISE HAVE THE
REAL ESTATE TO ACTUALLY HOST A
CHARGER. SO WE SEE A B 15 OH,
FOUR AS A REALLY IMPORTANT TOOL
TO HAVE MORE PROACTIVE PLANNING
EFFORTS AROUND CURBSIDE CHARGING
THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE JUST
SEEN FROM OUR EXISTING
DEPLOYMENTS ARE EXISTING
EXPERTISE DOING THIS WORK IS
THAT TO MAKE CURBSIDE CHARGING
HAPPEN, YOU REALLY NEED TO PLAN
FOR IT. YOU NEED TO REALLY WANT
IT, AND THAT'S BECAUSE THERE'S
JUST A LOT OF ADDITIONAL
CONSIDERATIONS TO THINK ABOUT
WHEN PLANNING FOR CURBSIDE
CHARGING THAT YOU MIGHT NOT
CONSIDER WHEN YOU ARE DEPLOYING
IN A PUBLIC PARKING LOT OR AT A
RETAIL SHOPPING CENTER. SO WE
THINK, 15. OH FOUR HAS A REALLY
GOOD PLANNING FRANK FRAMEWORK IN
PLACE THAT WOULD HELP MOVE THE
NEEDLE AND MOVE THESE
CONVERSATIONS FOR IT AT A LOCAL
LEVEL, AND FOR THOSE REASONS
WOULD RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR
VOTE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU ANY
WITNESSES AND SUPPORT PLEASE
COME FORWARD. TEAM NONE. ANY
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION, PLEASE
COME FORWARD. MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS DAMON CONQUER WITH LEGAL
CALIFORNIA CITIES. I HATE TO
SOUND LIKE A BROKEN WHEEL. UM
THE YOU KNOW, WE ARE VERY
APPRECIATIVE OF THIS LAST
ITERATION OF THE BILL WANT TO
CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE AUTHOR
ON ON THIS MEASURE AS IT IF IT
WERE TO ADVANCE WE STILL REMAIN
DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT ADDED
COSTS. ASSOCIATED UM, WITH THE
NEW REQUIREMENTS THAT WOULD BE
FOR DEVELOPMENT AND ASSESSMENT
AND REVIEW OF THESE, UM SO WE
BELIEVE THAT THERE THERE IS SOME
SOME MIDDLE GROUND, SO WE'RE
LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH
THE AUTHOR. UM AS THIS MEASURE
MOVES FORWARD, THANK YOU. NEXT
SPEAKER, PLEASE. GOOD AFTERNOON
. TRACY RYAN, RURAL COUNTY
REPRESENTATIVE, CALIFORNIA UM,
WE SENT IN OUR LETTER AFTER
DEADLINE OF OPPOSITION BUT WANT
TO TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK THE
AUTHOR STAFF FOR THEIR
WILLINGNESS TO CONTINUE THE
CONVERSATION WITH US AND TRY TO
ADDRESS OUR ISSUES. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. AND MARK NEWBERGER,
CALIFORNIA STATE ASSOCIATED
COUNTIES KIND OF ECHO AND KIND
OF FOLLOW UP TO THE COMMENTS
FROM CAL CITIES AND OUR CRC. WE
DEFINITELY SUBMIT OUR LETTER
LATE AS WELL BUT APPRECIATE THE
AUTHOR AND LOOK FORWARD TO
CONTINUING DISCUSSIONS ON THE
SPILL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY
COMMENTS UP HERE AT THE
COMMITTEE? SEE NONE. I HAVE A
QUESTION. UM I'M AT THE LOCAL
LEVEL AGAIN WEARING MY LOCAL
GOVERNMENT HAD I CAN'T THINK OF
A SINGLE DEVELOPMENT THAT I'M
AWARE OF THAT ISN'T BEING BUILT
WITH CHARGING STATIONS, SO I
THINK MARKET FORCES ARE AT PLAY.
YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T. THE
GOVERNMENT DIDN'T BUILD GAS
STATIONS WHEN THE AUTOMOBILE WAS
INVENTED. I JUST THINK THAT AH,
THIS IS A GREAT MARKET BASED
OPPORTUNITY FOR BUSINESSES TO
SEE THE ADVANTAGE OF WORKING
WITH DEVELOPMENT AND LOCAL
GOVERNMENT. I KNOW I THINK YOUR
COMPANY'S WORKED WITH SOME OF
OUR CITIES IN ORANGE COUNTY. TO
INSTALL THEM AT AT YOUR COST. I
THINK IT WAS, UH AND I THINK
THAT'S REALLY A BENEFIT THAT CAN
BE MADE. SO I THINK IT'S GREAT.
I APPLAUD, UH, GETTING TO THAT
HIGH NUMBER, BUT I'VE I BELIEVE
THAT LET'S LET'S SET THE
MARKETPLACE. PILE ON AND MAKE
SURE WE PUT EVERY CHARGING
STATION ON EVERY BLOCK. I THINK
THAT'D BE GREAT. SO, UM DON'T
YOU SEE THAT OR MAYBE, MR
MCCARTY? DO YOU SEE THAT WITH
LOCAL GOVERNMENTS? UH BUSINESS,
PRIVATE BUSINESSES DEVELOPMENT
PUTTING IN THEIR OWN STATIONS.
YEAH I THINK WE WANT TO UNLOCK
THE MARKETPLACE TO, UM, INSTALL
THESE AND WE'RE PUTTING A LOT OF
MONEY INTO THIS BILLIONS, NOT
JUST CALIFORNIA MONEY, BUT FROM
THE FEDERAL INFRASTRUCTURE BUILT
TO THIS, BUT SOME CITIES
UNFORTUNATELY. ARE DRAGGING
THEIR FEET AND I CAME FROM LOCAL
GOVERNMENT JUST LIKE YOU. AND
JUST LIKE, I THINK EVERYBODY
HERE ON THIS DIOCESE. YEAH, I'M
LOOKING AROUND. AND UM, YOU
KNOW, SOME DO IT BETTER THAN
OTHERS. SO THIS KIND OF JUST
CONTROLS HAVING TO PUSH HIM IN
THE RIGHT DIRECTION ISN'T A
MANDATE. UM WE HAD ANOTHER BILL
A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO THAT
FOCUSES ON CITING THEM ON KIND
OF OFF THE STREET. NOW WE'RE
FOCUSING ON KIND OF THE CURBSIDE
, NOT JUST THE DEVELOPMENT, BUT
NEXT TO THINK ABOUT THINK OF A
LIGHT. I WISH I HAD A PICTURE
RIGHT HERE. THINK OF A LIGHT
POLE OR THEIR PARKING METER.
THAT ALREADY HAS INFRASTRUCTURE
RIGHT THERE TO BE ABLE TO
UTILIZE THAT IT'S A PARKING
SPACE PEOPLE ALREADY THERE. UM
AND COMPANIES LIKE FLOOD WOULD
WISH TO UTILIZE THAT PUBLIC
INFRASTRUCTURE FOR PUBLIC
CHARGING. AND SO WE'RE FOCUSING
ON THAT IF I COULD ALSO ADD. I
THINK IT'S ULTIMATELY A LITTLE
BIT OF BOTH. AND JUST TO KIND
OF, UM FRAME THE DISCUSSION AND
CHART THE ENERGY COMMISSION IS
CALCULATED. WE NEED OVER ONE
MILLION CHARGERS BY 2030. AND WE
HAVE A VERY LONG WAY TO GO TO
FULFILLING THAT GOAL, AND
CERTAINLY WE'RE CLOSING THAT GAP
THROUGH BUSINESSES. A LOT OF OUR
CUSTOMERS ARE BUSINESSES THAT
WANT CHARGERS AS AN AMENITY TO
THEIR CUSTOMERS. BUT THAT
DOESN'T GET AT ALL THE LOCATIONS
WHERE YOU NEED CHARGERS TO
SUPPORT EVERY ADOPTION AND TO
SUPPORT DRIVERS. AND SO HAVING
LOCAL GOVERNMENT IS AN INTEGRAL
PARTNER. IN THIS TRANSITION. WE
OBVIOUSLY CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT
THEM. WE SEE THEM AS A PARTNER
AGAIN. A LOT OF OUR CUSTOMERS
ARE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS. LIKE THE
CITY OF MONTREAL, FOR INSTANCE,
WE DON'T REALLY SEE BUSINESSES
WANTING TO DEPLOY CHARGERS IN
THE RIGHT OF WAY, BECAUSE IT'S
PUBLIC PROPERTY AND NOT
NECESSARILY WHERE THEIR
BUSINESSES AND PRIVATE PROPERTY
THEY DO, RIGHT. I THINK THE
EXAMPLE OF WHERE WE'RE SEEING
THE BENEFITS WHEN LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS DO MORE PROACTIVE
PLANNING, I WOULD JUST NOTE CITY
OF PORTLAND'S IS ACTUALLY IN THE
PROCESS OF DEVELOPING ONE OF THE
MOST ROBUST POLICY PLANNING
TOOLS WE'VE SEEN WITH CURBSIDE
CHARGING CITY OF SACRAMENTO HAS
ALSO BEEN A LEADER IN THIS SPACE
OF ACTUALLY DEVELOPING A PROCESS
AND A BIT OF A PLAN WHEN IT
COMES TO DEPLOYING CURBSIDE
CHARGERS. THAT MEANS A WORLD OF
DIFFERENCE TO COMPANIES LIKE
FLOW ON. WHERE DO WE CONCENTRATE
OUR TIME AND RESOURCES TO DEPLOY
CURBSIDE CHARGERS IF WE CAN SEE
THAT LOCAL GOVERNMENTS HAVE A
PROCESS IN PLACE THAT THERE IS A
POSITIVE SIGNAL THAT THEY'RE
INTERESTED IN THIS SOLUTION AND
THAT THEY'RE GOING TO WORK MORE
COLLABORATIVELY WITH US, UH,
THAT'S IT. THAT'S A HUGE,
ATTRACTIVE MARKET SIGNAL FOR US,
AND THAT'S PART OF WHY WE SEE SO
MUCH VALUE IN MAYBE 15. OH, FOUR
HAS WRITTEN BECAUSE WE THINK IT
HAS THE POTENTIAL TO DO THAT FOR
CITIES ACROSS CALIFORNIA. OKAY
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WELL, THE
CHAIR IS BACK, ALRIGHT? ARE
THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM
THE COMMITTEE? HIS THING. NONE
ENTERTAIN A MOTION. HERE WE HAVE
A MOTION BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
REVIS, THE SECOND BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S RAMOS. WOULD
YOU LIKE TO CLOSE? THANK YOU
BEFORE YOU CAME HERE. I THINK
YOUR TEAM FOR WORKING WITH US TO
MAKE THE BILL BETTER. WE'RE
STILL HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF
OPPOSITION. BUT WE'RE CONTINUE.
WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH
THE ENTITIES, BUT BIG PICTURE IF
WE WANT TO GET CLEAN CARS 100%
IN THE NEXT DECADE, AS WE SAID,
WE NEED MUCH MORE EVEY
INFRASTRUCTURE. THIS IS A PIECE
OF THE PUZZLE. WITH THAT. I ASK
FOR YOUR VOTE. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. AND THANK YOU FOR
THE BILL AND WORKING WITH THE
COMMITTEE STAFF AND THE AUTHORS
AMENDMENTS THAT WE ADOPTED LAST
WEEK. I BELIEVE WE HAVE FOUND A
GOOD BALANCE THAT WILL RESULT IN
MORE EVIE CHARGING STATIONS IN
PLACES WHERE THEY HELP OUR
CONSTITUENTS MOST WITHOUT UNDULY
BURDENING LOCAL GOVERNMENTS
WOULD PERMIT TIP TIMELINES.
THERE WERE NOT DESIGNED FOR THE
PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY SUPPORTING
YOUR BILL. TODAY THE MOTION IS
DUE PASS TO THE TRANSPORTATION
COMMITTEE SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL AGUIAR-CURRY CURRY. I
DIXON NO NO BURNER. CHICO. CHECK
HØI RAMOS RAMOS I REVIS WALDRON.
WILSON WILSON. AYE. OKAY THE
VOTE IS 50. THAT BILL IS OUT. WE
WILL LEAVE THE ROLE OPEN FOR
ABSENT MEMBERS TO ADD ON. WHOA I
GUESS WHO'S LAUGHED BECAUSE
YOU'RE W NO, THEY THEY BUMPED ME
. THEY SAID NOT FOLLOW IT. OR I
WAS A MEMBER OF THE WAY. OKAY,
THIS IS FILE NUMBER 10. MAYBE 9
10 ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S WILSON. AND
YOU CAN BEGIN WHEN YOU'RE READY.
I AM READY. ALL RIGHT. GOOD
AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS AND PLEASED TO PRESENT A
B 9 10, WHICH WILL SET CLEAR
REQUIREMENTS FOR IN DIVULGE
INDIVIDUALS WHO WANT TO RUN FOR
COUNTY AUDITOR CONTROLLER BY
PROVIDING MORE INFORMATION TO
THE EXPERIENCE AND EDUCATIONAL
REQUIREMENTS IN GOVERNMENT CODE
SECTION 26 9 45. GOVERNMENT CODE
SECTION 26 9 45 INCLUDES THE
PREREQUISITE EDUCATION AND WORK
EXPERIENCE THAT IS REQUIRED TO
SERVE IN THE POSITION OF COUNTY
AUDITOR CONTROLLER. PORTIONS OF
THAT SECTION ARE EXTREMELY BROAD
, WHICH HAS CAUSED CONFLICT
REGARDING THE LACK OF
QUALIFICATIONS FOR INDIVIDUALS
WHO APPEAR ON THE BALLOT. THIS
BILL WOULD ALSO AMEND ELECTION
CODE 13.5 BY PROVIDING MORE
DIRECTION TO THE REGISTRAR'S TO
VERIFY THE BACKGROUND AND CLAIMS
OF THE CANDIDATES PRIOR TO
PLACING THEIR NAME ON THE
BALLOT. IT IS IMPORTANT THAT
INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE INTERESTED
IN RUNNING MEET THE
QUALIFICATIONS AND ARE PREPARED
TO FULFILL THE DUTIES OF A
COUNTY AUDITOR CONTROLLER ON DAY
ONE. MY WITNESS TODAY IS MATT
SURVEILLING WITH THE STATE
ASSOCIATION OF COUNTY AUDITORS.
WELCOME MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS
MATTHEW CYBERLINK WITH THE STATE
ASSOCIATION OF COUNTY AUDITORS,
NOT TO BE TOO REPETITIVE WITH
WHAT THE CHAIR SAID HE HAD A
LONG HEARING. TODAY WE WERE
LOOKING TO ADD A LITTLE
SPECIFICITY TO THE GOVERNMENT
CODE SECTION THAT THAT CLARIFIES
WHO IS ELIGIBLE TO RUN FOR THE
POSITION OF COUNTY AUDITOR OF
WHO'S BASICALLY THE LOCAL
GATEKEEPER FOR FINANCES WITH THE
COUNTY GOVERNMENT. IT'S VERY
IMPORTANT AND UH, HIGH PROFILE
POSITION. UM WE'D ALSO INITIALLY
PUT IN SOME MORE, UH, STRONG
LANGUAGE IN THE ELECTIONS CODE
TO COMPEL THE ELECTIONS.
OFFICIAL TO LITERALLY VERIFY THE
PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING THROUGH
THE GATE TO MAKE SURE THAT
BEFORE THEY GET ON THE BALLOT,
THOSE PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY
SCREENED AND THEN PROVIDE THE
DOCUMENTATION THAT WE'RE LOOKING
FOR. WE'VE ACTUALLY APPEALED
THAT BACK. JUST BASED ON BABY
STEPS. JUST MAKING SURE THAT UM
THE ELECTIONS OFFICIAL KNOWS
WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR. WE'RE
NOT MANDATING IT, BUT WE'RE SORT
OF ASKING FOR A LITTLE HELP TO
MAKE SURE THAT AGAIN BEFORE THE
TOOTHPASTE GETS OUT OF THE TUBE,
AND THE PEOPLE ARE ON THE
BALLOT. UH AND PEOPLE ARE VOTING
FOR THEM AND THEIR UNQUALIFIED.
WE TRY TO SCREEN THAT TO MAKE
SURE THAT THE CANDIDATES ARE
QUALIFIED. AND IF THEY WON THE
ELECTION THEY COULD SERVE IN
THAT POSITION. AND WE URGE AND I
VOTE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. ARE THERE ANY OTHER
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT IN THE
AUDIENCE? IS HE STILL THERE FROM
SHELL YOU DURING TWO SHELLS ARE
IN LINE REPRESENTING THE BORDER.
KIDS SUPPORTED SURPRISES. SOLANO
COUNTY AND SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ARE THERE
ANY WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION? NO
ONE'S THERE. MR WILSON YAKKING.
OKAY YEAH, THAT ANY QUESTIONS
FROM THE COMMITTEE? SEEING THAT
ENTERTAIN A MOTION. FOR HIM. A
MOTION FROM ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
RIVAS, THE SECOND BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S RAMOS. WOULD
YOU LIKE TO CLOSE? THANK YOU. I
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR MY WITNESS
AND TESTIMONY OPPORTUNITY TO
SERVE AND THE AUDITOR
CONTROLLERS DEPARTMENT FOR MY
PARTICULAR COUNTY, ONE OF MY
EARLY JOBS IN MY CAREER AND
RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE AS THE
FISCAL AGENT FOR THE COUNTY AND
THE WATCHDOG THAT THE PEOPLE WHO
SERVE IN THAT TOP POSITION ARE
ABSOLUTELY QUALIFIED WHEN THEIR
NAME IS ON THE BALLOT, AND THE
PEOPLE HAVE A GOOD CHOICE. SO
WITH THAT, I RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR YOUR I VOTE. THANK YOU SO
MUCH FOR THIS BECAUSE I REALLY
LIKE THAT. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE
THE QUALITY QUALIFICATIONS
IMAGINE THAT FIRST ACCOUNTING
AUDITORS ARE EQUAL TO THE TASK
THEY PERFORM FOR OUR
CONSTITUENTS EVERY DAY. I'M
HAPPY TO SUPPORT YOUR BILL WITH
THE MOTION IS DUE PASSED THE
APPROPRIATIONS SECRETARY, PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL CURRY CURRY, I
DIXON IT'S AN EYE BURNER. CHICO
CHICO! I RAMOS RAMOS I RIVAS
WALDRON WALDREN I WILSON. AYE.
YOU KNOW, I'M SEVEN OKAY? YEAH
FURTHER. HARVARD, HARVARD CÁC.
WILSON'S BILL BOERNER HORVATH
DETECTIVE WILK. COUNTY AUDITORS
BY 80. OKAY, THAT BILL IS, UH
ZERO AND IT IS OUT. ALRIGHT WE
NOW NEED TO DO THE CONSENT
CALENDAR. SECRETARY.
AGUIAR-CURRY SORRY. OKAY, WE
HAVE MOTION BY SOME MEMBER
WILSON'S SECOND BY, UM SOME
MEMBER WALDRON. AGUIAR-CURRY
CURRY I DICKSON DICKSON. I
BOERNER HORVATH JACO HØI RAMOS.
BY RIVAS. WALDRON WALDRON II
WILSON WILSON I ZERO OKAY?
ALRIGHT THE CONSENT CALENDAR IS
OUT 80, AND THAT'S OUT, OKAY?
OKAY WE'RE GONNA WE'RE GONNA DO
THE ON CALLS FIRST. A B 4 34.
GRAYSON. AH! IMPORTANT CURRENT
SUPPORT ZERO NOT WORRYING. HI.
HAS WALTER. BYE. BILLS OUT 60.
WANTED TO SHARE WITH PEOPLE.
OKAY? A B 516 RAMOS. THE CURRENT
50. BURNER I REVERSE WALDRON.
WALDRON. AYE. BILLS OUT 80.
MAYBE 892 BAINES. CURRENTS. 30
DARK CURRY CURRY I BURNER. I
RIVAS. HI. REVERSE I WALDRON.
WALDRON. AYE. AT SEVEN. BILLS
OUT 71. WE HAVE A B AND 8 94
FRIEDMAN. WHAT. 70 ROLE LIKE TO,
UH MAYBE 892 BAINES. IT'S
ACTUALLY 70. THAT'S 89270 BILLS
OUT. THANK YOU. UM MAYBE 894
FRIEDMAN. CURRENT IS EIGHT.
EXCUSE ME, 31. DO YOU PASS TO
HOUSING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT?
AGUIAR-CURRY CURRY. I BURNER I
RIVAS. REVERSE. I WALDRON.
WALDRON, NO. THAT'S UH, BOTH 62.
BILLS OUT. A B NINE. EXCUSE ME,
9 30 DO PASS TWO JOBS, ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT AND THE ECONOMY.
VOTERS CURRENTLY 41.
AGUIAR-CURRY CURRY. I BURNER I
WALDRON. WALDRON, NO. 62 BUILDS
OUT 62. NEXT IS A B 90 WANTING
DO PASS TO HOUSING AND COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT. CURRENT IS 41.
BURNER. AYE. RIVERS RIVERS, I
WILSON. WALDRON. WILSON WAS
FINE. IT WAS WALDRIP. WALDRON.
NOT VOTING, OKAY? SO IT'S 62.
NO. 61. BUT THE BILLS OUT 61. A
B 97 16. Dð PASS TO THE FLOOR.
IT'S CURRENTLY 40. BURNER I
RIVERS RIVERSIDE. WALDRON
WALDRON. AYE. SEVEN. BUILDS OUT
70. THIS IS A B 12 56 WOULD AH,
MOTION TO THE DO PASTOR REVENUE
TAX. AGUIAR-CURRY CURRY I
BURNER. BERNARD, NOT VOTING.
WALDRON. WALDRON, NO. Tð. BUILDS
OUT. FIVE TO A B 16 37 IRWIN DO
PASS THE PRIVACY AND CONSUMER
PROTECTION. AGUIAR-CURRY CURRY.
I BURNER? AYE. WALDRON. WALDRON.
WALDRON NOT VOTING. THAT'S 16.
BUILDS OUT 60. NOW THESE ARE ADD
ONS. A B A 21 GRAYSON, UM, DO
PASS THE HOUSING COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT VOTES 50. BURNER.
THIS IS A GRAYSON 8 TO 1.
BERNARD? NO. RAIDERS. RIVERS. I,
WALDRON. WALDRON. AYE. WARS. 71
BILLS OUT 71. A B 14 76 ALVAREZ.
AGUIAR-CURRY CURRY I BURNER?
AYE. SEVEN BILLS OUT 71.
MARGARET. A B 15 OH PHARMACOPEIA
FOR MCCARTHY. AYE, WALDRON.
MCCARTNEY. NO, NO. BUILDS OUT
62. IS THAT EVERYTHING? WE HAVE
IT ALL. ONE MINUTE. UH ADJOURNED
. MY DAUGHTER'S HERE. WAVE. I
KNOW. I'M SO EXCITED. ALRIGHT,
UM, MEETING'S ADJOURNED. SORRY,
BROTHER IN. HERE'S ALL THIS
STUFF. YOU GUYS GET THIS STUFF
START. IT WAS CRAZY OVER TO MY
MOUSE. I FEEL LIKE.