THE ASSEMBLY TRANSPORTATION
COMMITTEE IS CALLED TO ORDER
GOOD AFTERNOON AND WELCOME
EVERYBODY. HEARING ROOM IS OPEN
FOR ATTENDANCE OF THIS HEARING,
AND IT CAN BE WATCHED FROM A
LIVE STREAM ON THE ASSEMBLY'S
WEBSITE. WE ENCOURAGE THE PUBLIC
TO PROVIDE WRITTEN TESTIMONY BY
VISITING THE COMMITTEE WEBSITE.
NOTE THAT ANY WRITTEN TESTIMONY
SUBMITTED TO THE COMMITTEE IS
CONSIDERED PUBLIC COMMENT AND
MAYBE READ INTO THE RECORD OR
REPRINTED. WE WILL ALLOW TWO
MINUTES EACH FOR TWO PRIMARY
WITNESSES AND SUPPORT AND AN
OPPOSITION. THESE WITNESSES MUST
TESTIFY IN PERSON IN THE HEARING
ROOM AND NO, YOU CANNOT GIVE
YOUR TIME TO SOMEBODY ELSE'S TO
ONE PERSON. YOU GET TWO MINUTES
TO PEOPLE. YOU EACH GET. TWO
MINUTES. ONE PERSON. YOU STILL
ONLY GET TWO MINUTES. ADDITIONAL
WITNESS COMMENTS WILL BE LIMITED
TO YOUR NAME, ORGANIZATION AND
POSITION AND THOSE COMMENTS CAN
EITHER BE IN PERSON OR THE
TELEPHONE. WE'LL START WITH THE
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO ARE
HERE IN THE ROOM, THEN MOVED TO
THE BLENDED PHONE LINE TO USE
OUR TELEPHONE SERVICE. THE
NUMBER TO CALL IS 87769 TO 89 57
. THE ACCESS CODE IS 18 50 1100.
FINALLY THE ASSEMBLY HAS
EXPERIENCED A NUMBER OF
DISRUPTIONS TO COMMITTEE AND
FLOOR PROCEEDINGS IN THE LAST
FEW YEARS, CONDUCT THAT DISRUPTS
, DISTURBS OR OTHERWISE IMPEDE
THE ORDERLY CONDUCT OF THIS
HEARING IS PROHIBITED. SUCH
CONDUCT MAY INCLUDE TALKING OR
MAKING LOUD NOISES FROM THE
AUDIENCE, UTTERING LOUD
THREATENING OR ABUSIVE LANGUAGE
SPEAKING LONGER THAN THE TIME
ALLOTTED. EXTENDED DISCUSSION OF
MATTERS NOT RELATED TO THE
SUBJECT OF THE HEARING AND OTHER
DISRUPTIVE ACTS. TO ADDRESS ANY
DISRUPTIVE CONDUCT. I'LL TAKE
THE FOLLOWING STEPS IF AN
INDIVIDUAL DOES THAT DISRUPTS
OUR HEARING PROCESS. I'LL DIRECT
THEM TO STOP AND WARN THEM THAT
CONTINUED DISRUPTIONS MAY RESULT
IN REMOVAL FROM THE BUILDING. WE
WILL DOCUMENT ON THE RECORD THE
INDIVIDUAL INVOLVED IN THE
NATURE OF THE CONDUCT. WE MAY
HAVE TO RECESS. THE HEARING.
TEMPORARILY IF THE CONDUCT DOES
NOT STOP, I WILL REQUEST THE
ASSISTANCE OF THE SERGEANTS AND
ESCORTING THE INDIVIDUAL FROM
THE BUILDING. I THANK YOU FOR
YOUR COOPERATION, AND WITH THAT
WE WILL BEGIN OUR HEARING. WE DO
NOT HAVE A QUORUM AT THIS TIME,
SO WE WILL BEGIN AS A
SUBCOMMITTEE UNTIL SUCH TIME AS
WE HAVE ENOUGH MEMBERS TO
ACTUALLY VOTE ON THINGS. WE'RE
GONNA HAVE SEVEN BILLS ON OUR
CONSENT CALENDAR TODAY. A B 11
88 89 02 MAYBE 15 94 A B 16 26 A
B 17 35 A CR SEVEN AND A C R 38
. OKAY UM, WE'RE GOING TO HEAR A
WHOLE BUNCH OF BILLS. WE'RE
GOING TO START AS A SUBCOMMITTEE
WITH A B 73 TASHA. TASHA BOEHNER
BURNER. PLEASE COME UP. NOW THAT
IT'S NO LONGER A THREE WORDS.
I'M HAVING TROUBLE WITH IT. CAN
I JUST SAY IT THE OLD WAY? YOU
MAY BEGIN WHEN YOU'RE READY.
SECTION SAFER FOR BICYCLIST
DRIVERS AND PEDESTRIANS BY
ALLOWING BICYCLISTS TO TREAT
STOP SIGNS AS YIELD SIGNS WHEN
APPROACHING AN INTERSECTION.
SPECIFICALLY THE BILL WOULD
ALLOW INDIVIDUALS 18 YEARS OF
OLDER TO YIELD WHEN APPROACHING
A STOP SIGN AT AN INTERSECTION.
IT WOULD ALSO MAKE IT A SIX YEAR
PILOT. WE NEED CHP TO HAVE TIME
ENOUGH TIME TO EVALUATE THE
PROGRAM AND GIVE BACK A REPORT.
LIMIT THE STOP IS YIELD TO TWO
LANE ROADS, SO THAT'S ONE ROAD
OR ONE ROAD IN EACH DIRECTION
WITH STOP SIGNING ALL CORNERS,
SO ALL ONLY STOP SOUND
CONTROLLED INTERSECTIONS. ADD
THAT MINERS WHO FAILED TO STOP
AT A STOP SIGN WE'LL GET A
WARNING TICKET FOR THE FIRST
DEFENSE. VEHICLE CODE. 21 804
ALREADY PROVIDES LEGAL CLEAR
DEFINITION AND EXPECTATIONS FOR
THOSE REQUIRED TO YIELD AT
INTERSECTIONS. AND I WANT TO
MAKE A REALLY WANT TO HONE IN ON
THIS POINT. THIS IS ABOUT
YIELDING NOT BLOWING THROUGH THE
STOP SIGN NOT ROLLING THROUGH A
STOP SIGN. WE HAVE LOTS OF
DIFFERENT NAMES. THIS IS
YIELDING, WHICH IS DEFINED IN
LAW AND UNDER THIS CODE SECTION,
THE DRIVER OF ANY VEHICLE,
INCLUDING BIKES, APPROACHING AN
AIR SECTION WITH A YIELD SIGN.
MUST YIELD THE RIGHT OF WAY TOO
MANY VEHICLES AND PEDESTRIANS
HAVE ENTERED THE INTERSECTION. A
B 73 USES THIS COMMON
UNDERSTANDING OF A YIELD SIGN TO
ALLOW CYCLISTS APPROACHING AN
INTERSECTION WITH THE STOP SIGN
TO SLOW DOWN AND YIELD TO ANY
CARS AND PEDESTRIANS ALREADY AT
THE INTERSECTION, IF SAFE TO DO
SO, AND ONLY IF SAFE TO DO SO.
CYCLISTS CAN THEN PROCEED
THROUGH THE INTERSECTION WITHOUT
MAKING A COMPLAINT. STOP. AND
THIS IS KIND OF COUNTERINTUITIVE
. I RECOGNIZE. I THINK I'VE
SPOKEN TO MOST OF THE MEMBERS OF
THE COMMITTEE. IT'S
COUNTERINTUITIVE, BUT WHEN BIKE
BEHAVIOR FAITH BY BEHAVIOR
BECOMES PREDICTABLE FOR DRIVERS
, EVERYBODY IS SAFER AND YOU
HAVE FEWER BIKE CAR COLLISIONS
STUDY OUT OF DELAWARE SHOWED A
23% REDUCTION AND BIKE CAR
COLLISIONS. ONCE THIS LAW WENT
INTO EFFECT, UM THE GOAL OF 80
73 3 YEARS TO MAKE BICYCLES
BEHAVIOR PREDICTABLE FOR DRIVERS
WHEN THEY APPROACH AN
INTERSECTION, AND ALL ROADS NEED
TO BE SAFE FOR ALL ROAD USERS. I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR VOTE
AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME TODAY
HAVE TWO PRIMARY WITNESSES AND
SUPPORTED THE BILL. THEY WILL BE
INTRODUCING THEMSELVES WE HAVE
ALLEN WALKED ILL ON BEHALF OF
THE CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF
BIKE ORGANIZATIONS AND MARK CæA.
WILK SAVAGE ON BEHALF OF STREETS
FOR ALL OKAY, GO AHEAD. ALAN,
WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO FIRST? TELL
THANK YOU. CHAIR AND MEMBERS. MY
NAME IS ALAN WACHTEL. I'M A
LEGISLATIVE DIRECTOR OF THE
CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION. OF
BICYCLING ORGANIZATIONS, WHICH
IS THE ASSOCIATION OF
CALIFORNIA'S BICYCLE CLUBS. I'VE
BEEN A BICYCLIST ALL MY LIFE. I
HAVE BEEN A TRANSPORTATION
CONSULTANT FOR OVER 30 YEARS AND
I'VE EVEN DRAFTED SOME OF THE
LANGUAGE THAT YOU MIGHT FIND IN
THE VEHICLE CODE. ON BEHALF OF
OUR BOARD AND MEMBERS. I'M
PROVIDING THIS COMMENT IN
SUPPORT OF A B 73. THIS CHANGE
TO THE CALIFORNIA VEHICLE CODE
WILL SERVE TO MAKE BICYCLING IN
CALIFORNIA MORE CONVENIENT AND
MORE LIKE WHEAT. CHOICE FOR
TRAVEL. AND SAFER BY HELPING TO
PROVIDE PREDICTABLE BEHAVIOR AT
INTERSECTIONS. THANK YOU. GOOD
AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS MARK
VUKCEVIC'S PRODUCTIVITY POLICY
FOR STREETS FOR ALL ORGANIZATION
ADVOCATES STATEWIDE FOR SAFE,
SUSTAINABLE AND EQUITABLE
TRANSPORTATION. AND WE'RE PROUD
SUPPORTER OF THIS BILL AND ALSO
MENTIONED THAT I'M ALSO SOMEONE
WHO RIDES A BIKE STARTED BACK IN
MY UCSB DAYS. WE SUPPORT THIS
BILL BECAUSE IT DECRIMINALIZES
SAFE BIKING BEHAVIOR WHILE
KEEPING DANGEROUS INTERSECTION
BEHAVIOR AGAINST THE LAW. I CAN
TELL YOU THAT 10 STATES SO FAR
HAVE ADOPTED. THIS POLICY IN THE
SKY HAS NOT FALLEN ACTUALLY
SHOWING THAT INJURIES HAVE GONE
DOWN BY DOUBLE DIGITS IN PLACES
THAT HAVE ADOPTED THIS. I CAN
ALSO TELL YOU THAT THE
INTERSECTION IS THE MOST
DANGEROUS PART OF THE ROAD,
ACCORDING TO TRAFFIC ENGINEERS,
AND THE LONGER TIME THAT I SPEND
IN THE INTERSECTION BECAUSE I'M
TRYING TO ACCELERATE FROM A FULL
STOP MORE DANGER. I'M IN BUT
WHEN I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU,
SO THIS LOOKS LIKE ON THE
GROUND, AND SO WHY DO BICYCLE
RIDERS NOT STOP AT STOP SIGNS?
IS IT EASINESS? IS IT RECKLESS
ABANDON? IS IT DISREGARD FOR THE
LAW? IT'S ABOUT THE PHYSICS.
FRANKLY BICYCLES ARE INCREDIBLY
EFFICIENT MACHINES FROM
MECHANICAL VIEWPOINT UP TO 99%
OF THE ENERGY DELIVERED BY THE
RIDERS INTO THE PEDALS IS
TRANSMITTED TO THE WHEELS
COMPARED TO CARS. IT'S ABOUT 20%
OF THE GASOLINE TURNS INTO
MOMENTUM AND THE WHEELS AND
ACCORDING TO U C, BERKELEY
PHYSICIST JOEL FEET, VISIONS,
COMPLETING A FULL STOP AT EVERY
STOP SIGN IS PHYSICALLY
DEMANDING, DEMANDING AND
PROHIBITIVE. BICYCLES IN AN
IDEAL WORLD, AND THAT'S WHAT
THIS BILL IS GOING FOR SLOWLY
APPROACHING INTERSECTIONS. WHEN
I RIDE MY BIKE THROUGH AN EMPTY
INTERSECTION, I'M GOING ABOUT
SEVEN MPH WHEN THERE ARE KARZAI
SLOW TO PROBABLY EVEN LESS THAN
TWO MPH BARELY MOVING, BUT STILL
MOVING. THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE
CURRENT REGIME OF THE LAW STOPS
PEOPLE WHO ARE TEACHING SAFE
RIDING, OR EVEN POLICE OFFICERS
FROM CLARIFYING THE DISTINCTION
FROM WHAT A SAFE YIELD IS.
VERSUS WHAT IS ACTIVELY BLOWING
THROUGH A STOP SIGN AND ANYONE,
UH, INSTEAD? YEAH, AND SO THIS
STOPS EVEN THE POLICE OFFICER
PERMIT ADVISING A CYCLIST. EVEN
A KID WHO KNOWS MORE ABOUT
RIDING A BIKE THAN THEY DO FROM
ADVISING WHAT IS DANGEROUS
VERSUS WHAT IS SAFE. WE NEED
ENFORCEMENT TO ADDRESS PEOPLE
OFTENTIMES ON THEIR CELL PHONES
BLOWING THROUGH STOP SIGNS WITH
ABANDONED, POTENTIALLY CAUSING
COLLISIONS. WE NEED THAT
ENFORCEMENT BUT THAT WILL
CONTINUE TO REMAIN IN COMMON
PRACTICE IF WE CAN OFFER THEM A
PRACTICAL AND SAFE ALTERNATIVE,
LIKE THE IDAHO STOP. I ASK FOR
YOUR SUPPORT ON THIS, BILL.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE
ROOM WISHING TO VOICE THEIR
SUPPORT FOR A B 73? THANK YOU,
MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS MOIRA
TOP ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF SAN
DIEGO AND SUPPORT JONATHAN CLAY
IN BEHALF OF THE CITY OF
ENCINITAS IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU
. IS THERE ANYBODY HERE TO
TESTIFY IN OPPOSITION? OKAY SEE?
NONE. IS THERE ANYBODY WISHING
TO COME UP TO THE MIC? TO SAY
YOU'RE OPPOSED. OKAY NOW WE'LL
GO TO THE PHONE LINES FOR
TESTIMONY, BOTH IN FAVOR OF AND
OPPOSED TO A B 73 OPERATOR. IF
YOU COULD OPEN UP THE PHONE
LINES FOR A B 73 THANK YOU,
MADAM CHAIR FOR THOSE WHO WISH
TO SPEAKING SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL, PLEASE
PRESS ONE THAN ZERO. AND WE'RE
GOING TO FIRST GO TO LINE 39.
WHAT GOOD MORNING AND AFTERNOON
CHAIR MEMBERS. SOMETHING HAPPENS
. WE'VE LOST ANGELES SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. NOW MOVE ON TO LINE
NINE. UM HI. CAN YOU HEAR NEXT?
YES. YES UM, I'D LIKE TO, UM.
VOICE MY OPPOSITION TO THIS STOP
SIGNS AT THE STOP SIGN IS QUITE
CLEAR. WE HAVE A LOT OF
AGGRESSION, BICYCLE NEIGHBORHOOD
. JUST NAME AND YOUR POSITION
WHETHER YOU'RE FOR OR AGAINST
IT. OKAY THERE IS NO ONE ELSE TO
SIGNAL THAT THEY WISH TO SPEAK.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NOW WE WILL
GO TO THE COMMITTEE FOR ANY
QUESTIONS, COMMENTS. CAN WE MAKE
A MOTION TO MOVE THE BILL OF
DENTAL WORK? YOU CAN MAKE IT BUT
WE CAN'T TAKE A VOTE RIGHT NOW.
OKAY BUT I WANT TO THANK YOU SO
MUCH FOR AUTHORING THIS BILL AND
FOR CONTINUING THIS FIGHT. I
THINK THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT
PIECE OF POLICY. IN TERMS OF
MAKING OUR STREETS SAFER FOR ALL
OF THE USERS OF THE ROAD. I WANT
TO THANK YOU AND YOUR WITNESSES
FOR ARTICULATING WHY THIS IS
COUNTERINTUITIVELY SAFER FOR
CYCLISTS. UM YOU KNOW, SINCE
GOVERNOR NEWSOM VETOED THIS BILL
TWO YEARS AGO. UM ADDITIONAL
STATES HAVE MADE THIS INTO LAW.
NOW WE HAVE NINE STATES THAT
HAVE BROUGHT THIS POLICY INTO
THEIR STATES. MORE IMPORTANTLY,
NH T S A AND ITS DIRECTOR HAVE
COME OUT IN SUPPORT OF STOP AS
YIELD AS A SAFETY BENEFIT FOR
CYCLISTS HAVE ENCOURAGED STATES
TO PASS LAWS LIKE THIS ONE. THE
US OVERUSES STOP SIGNS AS A
TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURE. IT'S
REALLY HARD FOR CYCLISTS TO COME
TO A COMPLETE STOP AND THEN
START AGAIN SAFELY AND JUST
PHYSICALLY. IT JUST TAKES A LOT
OF ENERGY. FOR THE PERSON WHO'S
WRITING. IT'S ALSO NOT THE
SAFEST MODALITY FOR CARS. IT'S
REALLY EASY FOR PEOPLE TO GO
THROUGH THEM. THEY TEND TO
IGNORE THEM OR ROLL THEM A LOT.
UM THINGS LIKE ROUNDABOUTS TEND
TO WORK A LOT BETTER TO PREVENT
ACCIDENTS WHILE SLOWING TRAFFIC
DOWN, SO WE REALLY NEED TO THINK
OF RETHINK THE WAY THAT WE DO
TRAFFIC COMING IN THIS COUNTRY.
ALSO IT WASN'T SAID. I DON'T
THINK IT WAS SAID, BUT COMING TO
A COMPLETE STOP, CAN ALSO LEAD
TO A CYCLIST BEING REAR ENDED.
SO THERE ARE TIMES WHEN YOU MAY
WANT TO KEEP MOVING, BECAUSE YOU
GOT A CAR THAT'S DRIVING LIKE A
JERK BEHIND YOU. UM SO I REALLY
APPRECIATE YOUR PUSHING BACK
AGAINST A MULTI CITY PILOT AS
WELL, WHICH I THINK WOULD BE
CONFUSING TO CYCLISTS. UM AND UM
AND SO I THINK THAT THAT
ADDRESSES SOME OF THE CONCERNS
THAT WE'VE HEARD, AND SO I HOPE
THAT AS THIS MOVES FORWARD THAT
THE GOVERNOR SIGNS THAT THIS
YEAR AND I WOULD REQUEST FULLY
ASKED TO BE A JOINT AUTHOR OF
THIS MEASURE. OKAY SOMEBODY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S BURNER. WOULD
YOU LIKE TO CLOSE? WELCOME YOU
AS A JOINT AUTHOR, THAT MEANS A
LOT TO ME FOR THE TRAIL AS CHAIR
OF ASSEMBLY TRANSPORTATION TO BE
A JOINT AUTHOR. RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR YOUR I VOTE AT THE
APPROPRIATE TIME. THANK YOU SO
MUCH. WE STILL DO NOT HAVE A
QUORUM. WHEN WE DO. WE WILL TAKE
A VOTE ON THE BILL. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. OKAY NEXT UP. WE HAVE
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S DIXON. YOU'RE
HERE WITH A B 2 56, AND YOU CAN
PROCEED WHEN YOU'RE READY. THANK
YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR
AND MEMBERS. I'M HERE TODAY TO
PRESENT ON ASSEMBLY BILL 2 56 A
B 2 56 WILL DELAY ENFORCEMENT
FOR DRIVING WITH AN EXPIRED
VEHICLE REGISTRATION FOR 30 DAYS
AFTER THE REGISTRATION BECOMES
DELINQUENT. CURRENTLY THE
AVERAGE COST FOR REGISTERING A
VEHICLE. CALIFORNIA IS $289,
WHICH IS A 66% INCREASE OVER THE
LAST SIX YEARS. VEHICLE
REGISTRATION FEES AND TAXES
INCREASED YEARLY TO REFLECT
CURRENT INFLATION WITH INFLATION
AT A 40 YEAR HIGH AND THE COST
OF LIVING ONLY INCREASING IT IS
VITAL THAT WE LISTEN, THE BURDEN
ON FAMILIES AND INDIVIDUALS.
THAT ARE INCAPABLE TO PAY ON
TIME. TRANSPORTATION IS
ESSENTIAL FOR MANY CALIFORNIANS
AND LIVING IN FEAR OF THEIR
VEHICLE REGISTRATION, COSTING
EVEN MORE TO POTENTIAL
ENFORCEMENT ON TOP OF THEIR LATE
REGISTRATION IS POTENTIALLY
BURDENSOME. THIS IS ALREADY
POLICY FOR CALIFORNIA HIGHWAY
PATROL WHO LEADS ON THE ISSUE.
HOWEVER NOT ALL ENFORCEMENT
AGENCIES ARE FOLLOWING THIS BABY
TO 56 WILL MAKE THIS STANDARD
FOR ALL TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT
AGENCIES AND PROVIDE A MUCH
NEEDED SAFEGUARD FOR LOW INCOME
FAMILIES AND INDIVIDUALS. I DO
WANT TO NOTE TODAY I SPOKE WITH
THE OPPOSITION CALIFORNIA
HIGHWAY PATROLMEN. WE DISCUSSED
THE AMENDMENTS THAT WERE TAKEN
AND WE WILL BE WORKING TOGETHER
TO CLARIFY THAT THESE AMENDMENTS
MIRROR THEIR INTERNAL POLICY
WITH THIS, THEY HAVE NOTIFIED ME
THAT THEY WILL NO LONGER BE AN
OPPOSITION. PENDING CONFIRMATION
AT THE LANGUAGE FOLLOWS THEIR
INTERNAL POLICY. I WOULD LIKE TO
THANK MADAM CHAIR FOR HER
SUPPORT ON THIS BILL, AND I
COULD ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU
HAVE AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. I HAVE NO ONE SIGNED
UP TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT. IS THERE
ANYBODY IN THE ROOM WHO WISHES
TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OF THE
BILL? OKAY, SEE, NOW DO WE HAVE
ANY WITNESSES HERE IN
OPPOSITION? OKAY WITH ANYBODY
LIKE TO COME UP TO THE MIC TO
VOICE THEIR OPPOSITION. OKAY WE
WILL OPEN UP THE PHONE LINES.
NO. YES, I SAW AND SOMEBODY.
OKAY WE'LL OPEN UP THE PHONE
LINES FOR, UM, TESTIMONY FOR AND
AGAINST A B 2 56 OPERATOR. YOU
MADAM CHAIR FOR THOSE WHO WISH
TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL, PLEASE
PRESS ONE THAN ZERO PRESS 10
ONLY ONE TIME AS PRESSING ONE
AND ZERO A SECOND TIME WILL
REMOVE YOU FROM THE KILL. MADAM
CHAIR. NO ONE IS A SIGNAL THAT
THEY WISH TO SPEAK BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE. WELL I WANT TO THANK
YOU FOR BRINGING THE BILL
FORWARD. THESE STOPS ARE
UNNECESSARY. THERE ARE A LOT OF
TIMES WHEN PEOPLE ARE JUST
WAITING FOR THEIR REGISTRATION
SHOW UP IN THE MAIL OR LIKE ME.
THEY JUST KEEP FORGETTING TO PUT
IT ON THEIR CAR. BUT THEY'VE
PAID THEIR REGISTRATION. I
APPRECIATE THE CALIFORNIA
HIGHWAY PATROLMAN'S CONCERNS
ABOUT THE FISCAL IMPACTS TO THE
MOTOR VEHICLE ACCOUNT, BUT I
APPRECIATE THAT YOU REMOVE THE
PROVISIONS OF THE BILL,
ELIMINATING LATE FEES FOR THE
FIRST MONTH. I DON'T BELIEVE
THAT THE POLICY THAT AS IT NOW
STANDS WILL NEGATIVELY IMPACT
THE NBA BECAUSE THE BILL IS
ALREADY CONSISTENT WITH WHAT CHP
IS ALREADY DOING, WHICH IS TO
NOT TAKE IT PEOPLE THE FIRST
MONTH THAT THEIR REGISTRATION
HAS BEEN EXPIRED, SO I'M HAPPY
TO SUPPORT THE BILL TODAY AND
WHEN WE HAVE A QUORUM WILL WILL
ASK FOR A MOTION. WOULD YOU LIKE
TO CLOSE? YES, MADAM CHAIR.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND THANK YOU
MEMBERS. AND I ASK YOU FOR YOUR
I VOTE. I APPRECIATE IT. THANK
YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S CONNOLLY,
YOU ARE UP NEXT. YOU'RE HERE
WITH A B 99. ARE YOU READY?
GOOD AFTERNOON. THANK YOU. CHAIR
AND MEMBERS. AH! PLEASURE TO
PRESENT ON A B 99, WHICH WOULD
REQUIRE THE CALIFORNIA
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION
BETTER KNOWN AS CALTRANS TO
DEVELOP AND ADOPT A STATEWIDE
POLICY THAT USES INTEGRATED PEST
MANAGEMENT IN CITIES AND
COUNTIES THAT HAVE RESTRICTED
THE USE OF PESTICIDES LOCALLY.
THIS STATEWIDE POLICY WOULD ALSO
PROHIBIT THE USE OF PESTICIDES
ACCEPTANCE SPECIFIED
CIRCUMSTANCES, SUCH AS WILDFIRE
RISK TO CONTROL INVASIVE PAST OR
WEREN'T NO OTHER MEANS OF PEST
CONTROL ARE FOUND TO BE
AFFECTED. FINALLY A B 99 ALSO
REQUIRES CALTRANS TO MAKE
PUBLICLY AVAILABLE THERE.
PESTICIDE USE AS WELL AS
NOTIFICATION OF WHEN THEY INTEND
TO SPRAY PESTICIDES. 24 HOURS IN
ADVANCE. MEMBERS OF GOAL OF THIS
BILL IS TO REIN IN PESTICIDE USE
BY CALTRANS IN AREAS WHERE LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS HAVE RESTRICTED
THEIR OWN USE OF PAST ASIDES.
PESTICIDES WHICH IS AN UMBRELLA
TERM THAT INCLUDES HERBICIDES
AND INSECTICIDES ARE SUBSTANCES
THAT ARE MEANT TO CONTROL PASSED
QUITE HARMFUL TO HUMAN HEALTH
AND THE ENVIRONMENT. IN LIGHT OF
THE HARMS OF PESTICIDES AND
NUMBER OF LOCAL JURISDICTIONS
HAVE ADOPTED I P. M APPROACHES.
IN SOME LOCALS, THERE ARE
COMPLETE BANS ON GLYPHOSATE.
EVEN THOUGH LOCAL GOVERNMENT HAS
TAKEN SUCH ACTIONS, THEY HAVE NO
AUTHORITY OVER CALTRANS HAVE
JURISDICTION OVER THE MANAGEMENT
OF STATE HIGHWAYS. THIS BILL
WOULD BRING CALTRANS VEGETATION
MANAGEMENT OPERATIONS IN LINE
WITH LOCAL ACTION IN COUNTIES
AND CITIES THAT HAVE ALREADY
TAKEN ACTION TO EITHER BAN OR
RESTRICT HAS SOCIETY USE
LOCALLY. I SHOULD NOTE THAT
CALTRANS TECHNICALLY, DO YOU
HAVE A POLICY IN PLACE TO USE
INTEGRATED PEST MANAGEMENT THAT
PRIORITIZES THE LEAST HARMFUL
METHOD, BUT IT DOES NOT APPEAR
TO HAVE RESULTED IN ANY
MEANINGFUL REDUCTION IN
PESTICIDE YEARS. AS A MATTER OF
FACT, ON CALTRANS WEBSITE
GLYPHOSATE IS INDICATED AS A
PRIMARY TOOL USED FOR ROADSIDE
VEGETATION MANAGEMENT. THIS BILL
WOULD ADD ADDITIONAL GUIDANCE TO
CALTRANS ON WHEN THE USE OF
PESTICIDES IS PERMISSIBLE. WITH
ME TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OF THIS
BILL OR MEGAN KAUN WITH HEALTHY
HIGHWAYS COALITION AND SONOMA
STATE AG SAFE SCHOOLS AND PATTY
CLERY WITH CALIFORNIANS FOR
ALTERNATIVES TO TOXICS. MY NAME
IS MEGAN COWAN. I'M A CIVIL
ENGINEER AND MOM OF TWO. COME
WITH THESE DIVERSE PERSPECTIVES
TO EXPLAIN WHY SONOMA SAFE EGGS
, SAFE SCHOOLS AND THE HEALTHY
HIGHWAYS. COALITION SUPPORT ABBY
99. THIS BILL WOULD REDUCE
UNNECESSARY PESTICIDE USE AND
ITS ASSOCIATED COSTS IN MY
COMMUNITY, WE HAVE BORNE THE
COSTS OF CALTRANS HEAVY RELIANCE
ON PESTICIDES COSTS THAT ARE NOT
INCLUDED IN THE STATE BUDGET.
YES THERE ARE EXTENSIVE COST TO
HUMAN HEALTH AND THE ENVIRONMENT
, BUT THERE ARE ALSO COSTS OF
ACCIDENTAL EXPOSURE. CALTRANS
SPRAYS DURING RUSH HOUR AND ON
WEEKENDS WITH DOCUMENTED
EXPOSURE TO MOTORISTS AND
BICYCLISTS. THERE ARE THE COSTS
OF PROPERTY DAMAGE. CALTRANS
PHRASE PAST PROPERTY LINES,
DAMAGING CROPS, JEOPARDIZING
ORGANIC CERTIFICATIONS. I WORK
WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS LIVING
ALONG STATE HIGHWAYS WITH
ALARMING LEVELS OF GLYPHOSATE IN
THEIR BODIES AND PARENTS WHO ARE
SCARED TO OPEN THEIR WINDOWS IN
THE SPRING BECAUSE CALTRANS
SPRING INCREASES THEIR KIDS
ASTHMA. AND RASHES. IN SONOMA
COUNTY. CALTRANS HAS NOT
HISTORICALLY TAKEN
RESPONSIBILITY FOR THESE COSTS.
OUR LOCAL CITIES AND COUNTIES
HAVE FOUND WAYS TO REDUCE
PESTICIDES. BUT IT SEEMS MOOT
WHEN CALTRANS SPRAYS
UNNECESSARILY TOXIC MIXTURES ON
OUR ROADS. AS AN ENGINEER. I SEE
THE DOWNSIDES OF CALTRANS
OPERATIONS THAT'S SPECIFIED
PESTICIDES AS A PRIMARY TOOL.
I'VE ANALYZED CALTRANS SPRAY
DATA, AND I KNOW THAT IN SONOMA
COUNTY, THEY USED 20 TO 30 TIMES
MORE PESTICIDES PER ROAD MILE,
THEN SONOMA COUNTY'S T P W I
KNOW THAT CALTRANS PESTICIDES
USE INCREASES SOIL EROSION THAT
CLOGS CULVERTS AND LEADS TO
SINKHOLES, WHICH ARE HUGE SAFETY
ISSUES AND EXPENSIVE THIS IS THE
SITUATION HAS BEEN WORSENED BY
THE INCREASE IN LARGE STORM
EVENTS. THE FLORIDA D O. T HAS
DONE EXTENSIVE TESTING ON WHAT
THEY CALL POLLINATOR HIGHWAYS
THAT KEEP DESIRABLE VEGETATION
ON ROADS TO MINIMIZE COSTS.
THESE REDUCED MAINTENANCE COSTS
BY 30% WHILE INCREASING
ECOSYSTEM SERVICES THAT
POLLINATE CROPS, CLEAN AIR AND
WATER AND STOP INVASIVE SPECIES
BY $500 MILLION ANNUALLY. THANK
YOU FOR THIS HEARING TODAY I
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST AND I VOTE
ON A B 99. GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIR
AND MEMBERS OF THE
TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE. MY
NAME IS PATTY CLERY. I'M THE
DIRECTOR OF CALIFORNIANS FOR
ALTERNATIVES TO TOXICS, A
REGIONAL ORGANIZATION BASED IN
ARCADIA. MY BACKGROUND AND
INTEGRITY, INTEGRATED PEST
MANAGEMENT, OR OPM, INCLUDES 21
YEARS AS A MEMBER OF CALIFORNIA.
CALTRANS DISTRICT ONE VEGETATION
MANAGEMENT ALTERNATIVES
COMMITTEE. LAST YEAR. CALTRANS
USE 420,842. OF HERBICIDE TO
CLEAR VEGETATION ADJACENT TO ITS
HIGHWAYS. BUT IN HUMBOLDT AND
MENDOCINO COUNTIES, THAT FIGURE
WAS ZERO. AT THE REQUEST OF
COUNTY SUPERVISORS, CITIES AND
TRIBAL COUNCILS CALTRANS HAS
RESTRAINED FROM USING HERBICIDES
AND THESE TWO COUNTIES SINCE
1989 WE ESTIMATE IN THE 34 YEARS
SINCE CALTRANS IS APPLIED 12 TO
£14 MILLION OF HERBICIDE
THROUGHOUT THE STATE IN ONE
COUNTY WITH 183 MILES OF STATE
HIGHWAYS WITHIN ITS BORDERS.
£14,372. OF HERBICIDE WERE USED
AT A RATE OF £92 PER HIGHWAY
MILE. IN ANOTHER WHERE THE
COUNTY USES I P M WITH VERY
INFREQUENT HERBICIDES. £6341
WERE USED ALONG 257 MILES OF
STATE HIGHWAY OR £24.7, PER
MILE. IN OTHER COUNTIES. THE
RATE WAS £42 OR 12, OR 39, OR
£24.7 PER MILE, AND SO ON THIS
DYSFUNCTION AND UNSAFE
MANAGEMENT WOULD BE CURED BY I.
P. M AS ENVISIONED BY A B 99.
INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS, AND
MANY US STATES CONTINUED TO
DEVELOP I P M FOR RIGHT OF WAYS
CALTRANS WOULD BECOME A LEADER
IN THIS EFFORT. TÌM PRACTICES
ARE SUCCESSFUL IN HUMBLE AND
MENDOCINO COUNTIES. AND SEVERAL
WERE IDENTIFIED BY THE DISTRICT
ONE CALTRANS COMMITTEE. YOUR
TIME IS UP. IF YOU CAN JUST
FINISH UP REAL QUICK. I URGE YOU
TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF A B 99 THE
MODERNIZATION OF CALTRANS. IT
WOULD BRING WITH A PROTEST WITH
A PRACTICAL PPM POLICY. THANK
YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. IS THERE ANYBODY
ELSE IN THE ROOM WHO'D LIKE TO
COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE TO
TESTIFY IN SUPPORT? CHRISTINA
HILDEBRAND, IN BEHALF OF THE
VOICE OF CHOICE, EFFICACY. WE
STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS BILL.
THANK YOU. MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS POLIO ON BEHALF OF THE
NAPA COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS
IN SUPPORT. BACARDI AT NRDC
NATURAL RESOURCES DEFENSE
COUNCIL HERE IN SUPPORT. BUTLER,
CALIFORNIA'S AGAINST WASTE AND
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. CHAIR
MEMBERS. MY NAME IS NO WHITLEY
ON BEHALF OF BREAST KENSHIN
PREVENTION PARTNERS WERE IN
SUPPORT. PAPER PRIMROSE WITH
NONTOXIC SCHOOLS IN MARIN COUNTY
IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU. IS THERE
ANYBODY HERE TO TESTIFY IN
OPPOSITION? SO. OKAY IF YOU'RE
THE IF YOU'RE ON, YOU ARE
TESTIFYING. JUST TEAM, OKAY? YOU
CAN COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE.
GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIR AND MEMBERS
. I'M HERE TO CLARIFY A POSITION
ON THE ANALYSIS ON BEHALF OF MID
PENINSULA REGIONAL OPEN SPACE
DISTRICT WERE LISTED IN SUPPORT
. UNFORTUNATELY WE DO HAVE AN
OPPOSING LESS AMENDED POSITION,
WHICH IS WHAT WE REGISTERED WITH
THE COMMITTEE. OFFICIALLY I JUST
WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT AND SAY
WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO WORK
CLOSELY WITH THE AUTHOR, UM, ON
OUR SUGGESTED AMENDMENTS AND
HOPE TO CONTINUE TO DO SO. THANK
YOU. AND THEN IF THE OPPOSITION
WITNESS WANTS TO SPEAK, YOU HAVE
TWO MINUTES IF YOU'D LIKE TO BE
THE PRIMARY WITNESS VERY BRIEF,
ANTHONY MOLINA ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA SEAT ASSOCIATION IN
THE CALIFORNIA GRAIN AND FEED
ASSOCIATION, WERE IN OPPOSITION.
BUT WE WANT TO THANK THE MEMBER
AND WE PLAN TO CONTINUE TO WORK
WITH THEM THROUGHOUT THE
PROCESS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
WAS ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO
TESTIFY IN OPPOSITION? GOOD
AFTERNOON, CHRIS RIDIN WITH
CALIFORNIA FARM BUREAU. WE TO
OPPOSE A B 99 BUT LOOK FORWARD
TO CONTINUING DISCUSSIONS WITH
THE AUTHOR. OKAY THANK YOU. WITH
THAT WE WILL OPEN UP THE PHONE
LINES FOR OPPOSITION AND
SUPPORT. SORRY FOR TESTIMONY IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION FOR ABBY
99 OPERATOR IF YOU CAN OPEN UP
THE PHONE LINES THANK YOU FOR
THOSE WHO WISH TO SPEAK IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO THIS
BILL, PLEASE PRESS ONE THAN ZERO
AT THIS TIME, PRESS ONE THAN
ZERO. WE'RE GOING TO GO FIRST TO
LINE 47. YOU'RE LYING. THE SNOW
OPEN. MY NAME IS JOHN BORRADOR
WITH CLEAN IT FOR KIDS THAT ARE
EXTREMELY SUPPORT. LINE 52.
PARDON ME LINE 52 PLEASE PRESS
ONE THAN ZERO AGAIN. LINE 51.
HELLO. MY NAME IS MATT SIMMONS.
UH FROM THE ENVIRONMENTAL
PROTECTION INFORMATION CENTER.
WE STRONGLY SUPPORT THE 99. LINE
52. 52 YEAR LINE IS NOW OPEN.
YES THIS IS ELIZABETH MOSLEY.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. YES I'M
ELIZABETH MOSLEY AND I'M WITH
THE NORTH COUNTY CLIMATE CHANGE
ALLIANCE, AND I STRONGLY SUPPORT
A B 99, REQUIRING. LINE NINE.
YOUR LINE IS NOW OPEN. OH, CAN
YOU HEAR ME? YES. OKAY I GIVE
THANKS SO MUCH, UM MATTHEW
CARTER SUSTAINABLE ROSS VALLEY
IN SUPPORT OF THIS STILL, THANK
YOU. LINE 15. SUZANNE HUME.
CLEANERS FOR KIDS. ORG. STRONGLY
SUPPORT LINE 49. GOOD AFTERNOON,
REBECCA BASKINS ON BEHALF OF
AMERICAN PISTACHIO GROWERS,
WESTERN PLANT HEALTH
ASSOCIATIONS AND OTHER AG
ORGANIZATIONS AND OPPOSITION.
THANK YOU. LINE 56. JOEL SHULMAN
POISON FREE NOVEL LOCATED IN LOS
ANGELES COUNTY, WHICH ALREADY
BANS COLLECTIVE STATE. ON COUNTY
PROPERTY AND SUPPORT. LINE
EIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON. MATTHEW
ALLEN, WITH WESTERN GROWERS,
ALSO IN OPPOSITION. LINE FIVE.
GOOD AFTERNOON, DOUG JOHNSON
WITH THE CALIFORNIA INVASIVE
PLANT COUNCIL AND NONPROFIT
ENVIRONMENTAL GROUP. UM AND WE
HAVE CONCERNS THAT WE SUBMITTED
IN A LETTER, BUT WE'LL CONTINUE
TO WORK WITH THE AUTHOR'S
OFFICE. THANK YOU. LINE 22 YEAR
LINE IS NOW OPEN. YES THIS IS
CHANCE TO TRON, A WITH THE
RESOURCE RENEWAL INSTITUTE. I'M
CALLING AND STRONG SUPPORT OF A
B 99. THANK YOU. LINE 55 LINUS,
NOW OPEN. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY
NAME IS KIMBERLY BAKER CALLING
FOR THE CLIMATE FOREST ALLIANCE
AND WE STRONGLY SUPPORT 80 99.
LINE 18. YOUR LINE IS OPEN. GOOD
AFTERNOON. THIS IS JULIE RICE OF
PESTICIDE FREE AND WE ARE
CALLING IN STRONG SUPPORT. THANK
YOU. LINE SEVEN. OKAY? I AM THE
CANCER PATIENT CALLING IN
SUPPORT OF A B 99. HOW CAN I
WORK SO HARD TO PROTECT MY
HEALTH WHEN MY TAXPAYER DOLLARS
ARE BEING USED TO HARM IT,
PLEASE MO RATHER THAN SPRAYING
TALKS. OKAY, THANK YOU, 27.
ALRIGHT THIS IS KATHLEEN DOWN IN
A PROFESSIONAL LANDSCAPER AND
GARDNER ALONG HIGHWAY 84 HIGHWAY
35 HIGHWAY ONE, AND I'M IN
STRONG SUPPORT OF A B 99. LINE
40 FOR YOUR LINE IS NOW OPEN.
THIS IS LAURIE GLASS,
REPRESENTING STAPLE TERMS FOR
FOREST ENVIRONMENT AND TRENDY
COUNTY AND THE NORTH COAST
ENVIRONMENTAL CENTER IN HUMBOLDT
COUNTY, STRONGLY IN SUPPORT OF A
B 99. LINE 24. HELLO MY NAME IS
LANDRY PURCELL AND WITH FAMILIES
ADVOCATING FOR CHEMICAL AND
TOXIC SAFETY. WE REPRESENT
CHILDREN AND FAMILIES AROUND THE
STATE AND STRONG SUPPORT. LINE
13. MY NAME IS BRIAN LILLARD.
I'M A RESIDENT OF NAPA COUNTY
AND I AM IN FAVOR OF A B 99.
LINE 42. AND KURT WITH JOAN
AUDUBON SOCIETY AND POWER LEAN
ACTION NETWORK, THANKING THE
AUTHOR AND THE ADVOCATES IN VERY
STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU. LINE
54. HELLO BILL AH, LEO FOR THE
ENVIRONMENTAL WORKING GROUP IN
SUPPORT. LINE 19. HI MY NAME IS
THEODORE RUTLEDGE. JUNIOR I LIVE
IN RURAL SAN MATEO COUNTY AND
I'M CALLING IN STRONG SUPPORT OF
A B 99. THANK YOU AND THANK YOU,
PATRICIA MAIL. LYING 25. THEIR
LINE IS NOW OPEN. HELLO I'M
PATTY MAY ALL I'M THE DIRECTOR
OF PROTECT OUR WATERSHED. SAN
MATEO COUNTY STRONGLY SUPPORT A
B 99. THANK YOU. LINE 53. LINE
53. YOUR LINE IS NOW OPEN. OH
EXCUSE ME. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS
LYNETTE VEGA. I LIVE IN LA HONDA
, CALIFORNIA AND, UM WE DO NOT
WANT TOXICS TO ENTER OUR
WATERSHED SUPPORT 80 99
ENTHUSIASM BUT PLEASE, JUST YOUR
NAME AND WHETHER YOU'RE FOR OR
AGAINST THE BILL, BUT WE DO
APPRECIATE THE ENTHUSIASM. LINE
57. YOUR LINE IS NOW OPEN. HI MY
NAME IS AMBER JAMISON AND I WORK
WITH ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION,
INFORMATION CENTER AND NATURE
RIGHTS COUNCIL AND WE STRONGLY
SUPPORT A B 99. MADAM CHAIR.
THERE IS NO ONE ELSE TO SIGNAL
THAT THEY WISH TO SPEAK. LOTS OF
ENTHUSIASM FOR THAT, BILL. THANK
YOU. OKAY DO WE HAVE ANY, UH
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE
COMMITTEE? MR KALRA. THANK YOU,
MADAM. SURE WANT TO THANK THE
AUTHOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD. I
THINK IT'S A REALLY GOOD BILL
AND I JOINED THE ENTHUSIASM OF
SO MANY OTHERS IN SUPPORT. I'M
ALREADY OUT THERE AND, UM, JUST
ONE. I APPRECIATE IN PARTICULAR
WITH SO MANY LOCAL JURISDICTIONS
ARE ALREADY IMPLEMENTING THEIR
OWN PLANS. I THINK IT ONLY MAKES
SENSE THAT, UM, CALTRANS KIND OF
JOINS IN PARTNERSHIP, AND THAT'S
REALLY WHAT THIS IS ABOUT IS
GOING TO BE BUT THOUGHTFUL ABOUT
HOW WE CAN MOVE FORWARD
TOGETHER. SO THANK YOU. OKAY
SEEING NO OTHERS. UM I WANT TO
THANK YOU AS WELL FOR AUTHORING
THIS BILL, AND CERTAINLY I
UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS FROM
SOME OF THE STAKEHOLDERS WHO
HAVE ADJACENT PROPERTIES.
WILDFIRES OTHER RISKS FROM
OVERGROWN UM, UH, YOU KNOW,
FULLY EGE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME,
WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO BE
RISKING PEOPLE'S PUBLIC HEALTH.
WE DON'T WANT PESTICIDES GETTING
INTO WATER SUPPLIES. WE NEED TO
THINK OF THESE AREAS ALSO, AS
HABITATS AND BIODIVERSITY. I
WOULD LOVE TO SEE CALTRANS FOCUS
ON PLANTING A LOT MORE NATIVES
WHAT THEY DO NOW. I DID
LEGISLATION ON THAT A FEW YEARS
AGO, AND YET I STILL SEE ICE
PLANTS AND ALL MANNER OF AN
APPROPRIATE PLANT MATERIAL BEING
PLANTED ALONGSIDE HIGHWAYS. SO I
HOPE THAT CALTRANS ALSO STARTS
TO I THINK A LITTLE BIT MORE
GLOBALLY ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE
DOING ON THEIR RIGHT OF WAY AND
ON THEIR PROPERTY. I DO THINK
THAT YOU HAVE ARE REALLY FINDING
A GOOD BALANCE HERE. BUT AS YOU
CAN TELL BY THE VERY
ENTHUSIASTIC PHONE CALLS I
PEOPLE OF CALIFORNIA HAVE VALUES
ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY. AND ABOUT
NOT USING TOXIC MATERIALS, AND
THIS BILL IS DEFINITELY TOUCHED
A NERVE WITH THEM. SO I WILL BE
SUPPORTING THE BILL TODAY. WOULD
YOU LIKE TO CLOSE? YES THANK
YOU, MADAM CHAIR AND REALLY
APPRECIATE THE BROAD COALITION
FROM AROUND THE STATE THAT IT'S
COME TOGETHER. WE ARE COMMITTED
TO CONTINUING THE DISCUSSION
WITH REMAINING ISSUES AND
RESPECTFULLY ASKED FOR AN EYE
BOAT. WE'RE GOING TO PAUSE FOR A
MOMENT AND ESTABLISH A QUORUM.
CAN WE HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE?
FRIEDMAN FRIEDMAN HERE, FANG
FANG HERE, BERMAN CARILLO
CARILLO HERE. DAVIES BABIES
HERE. GIBSON ART. PART HERE,
JACKSON. JACKSON HERE. CHOLERA.
ALRIGHT HERE. LOWENTHAL WHEN
SANCHEZ SANCHEZ HERE, WALLACE
FORD WICKS. WE HAVE EIGHT. DID I
HEAR A MOTION FROM MR CHOLERA?
OKAY WE HAVE MOTION IN A SECOND.
CAN WE HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
MAYBE 99 IS DO PASS AND RE
REFERRED TO COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. FRIEDMAN
FRIEDMAN, I PHªN. PHªN KNOW
BERMAN CARILLO. OH, I DAVIES
BABIES KNOW GIBSON. ART. HEART I
JACKSON JACKSON, I KALRA ALRIGHT
, I LOWENTHAL WHEN SANCHEZ
SANCHEZ KNOW WALLACE WARD WICKS.
HAS FIVE VOTES WILL LEAVE THE
ROLE OPEN FOR ABSENT MEMBERS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. NEXT,
WE HAVE ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S AGUILAR
CURRY WITH A B FOR 73. YOU MAY
PROCEED WHEN YOU'RE READY.
ACTUALLY AS YOU'RE COMING UP,
I'M GOING TO ASK FOR A MOTION ON
THE CONSENT CALENDAR. OKAY WE
HAVE MANY SECONDS IN MOTIONS.
CAN WE HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE?
FRIEDMAN FRIEDMAN, I FONG. BANG
I BERMAN CARILLO CARILLO. AYE
DAVIES DAVIES I GIBSON HEART
PART II. JACKSON JACKSON I
CHOLERA, CHOLERA I LOWENTHAL
WHEN SANCHEZ. SANCHEZ I WALLACE
WARD WIGS. WE WILL HAVE ASKED
CHOLERA AS THE AS THE MOTION AND
MR FONG IS THE SECOND WITH THAT
WHENEVER YOU'RE READY. THANK
YOU. RIGHT CHAIRMAN FRIEDMAN AND
MEMBERS I'M HERE TO PRESENT A B
473, WHICH WILL UPDATE THE RULES
GOVERNING THE RELATIONSHIP
BETWEEN AUTO DEALER FRANCHISEES
AND THEIR MANUFACTURING
FRANCHISORS UNDER THE
CALIFORNIA'S NEW MOTOR VEHICLE
FRANCHISE LAW. FIRST I WANT TO
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR AND FOR
THE COMMITTEE STAFF EXTENSIVE
WORK ON THIS BILL. WE HAVE MET
WITH YOUR STAFF, THE
MANUFACTURERS AND THE
ASSOCIATION MULTIPLE TIMES
TOGETHER AND SEPARATELY AND WILL
CONTINUE TO DO SO. WE RECOGNIZE
THERE ARE SEVERAL OF THESE
COMPLEX ISSUES THAT NEED FURTHER
NEGOTIATION AND REFINEMENT. 84
73 REPRESENTS THE LATEST IN
NECESSARY PERIODIC UPDATES TO
THE MOTOR VEHICLE FRANCHISE LAW.
TO BREAK THIS BILL DOWN IN ITS
SIMPLEST TERMS. A B 473 IS ABOUT
FAIRNESS. GLOBAL MANUFACTURER.
AUTOMAKERS ARE MASSIVE
MULTINATIONAL CORPORATIONS AND
ARE IN A MUCH STRONGER POSITION
TO NEGOTIATE TERMS OF THEIR
AGREEMENTS WITH LOCAL
DEALERSHIPS. EVEN AS CAR SALES
FELL DURING SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES
, AUTOMAKERS HAVE INCREASED
THEIR PRICES AND PROFIT MARGINS.
AS A RESULT IN THE THIRD QUARTER
OF 2022 DOMESTIC MANUFACTURERS
REPORTED 32 BILLION IN PROFITS
THE MOST SINCE 2016.
CALIFORNIA'S CAR DEALERS ARE
IMPORTANT LOCAL BUSINESSES WHO
ARE WELL WELL. WALDY DEPENDENT
ON AUTO MANUFACTURERS FOR THE
SUPPLY OF CARS TO SELL AND THE
O. E. M PARTS USED IN REPAIRS.
THIS DEPENDENCE MEANS THAT OUR
LOCAL DEALERS ARE NOT LIKELY TO
CHALLENGE THEIR MANUFACTURER
MANUFACTURER PARTNERS DIRECTLY
OR THROUGH THE NEW MOTOR VEHICLE
BOARD UNLESS THE SITUATION IS
DIRE. OR UNTIL THE LIST OF
ISSUES HAS GROWN SUFFICIENTLY TO
DEMAND AND INDUSTRY INDUSTRY
WIDE UPDATE. SIMPLY STATED TO
ASK OUR DEALERS TO WORK IT OUT.
WITH MANUFACTURERS IS ASKING
THEM TO BITE THE HAND THAT FEEDS
THEM OR WITHHOLD THEM. LIKE ANY
COMPLEX LAW GOVERNING A DYNAMIC
INDUSTRY AS THE COMMITTEE'S
ANALYSIS POINTS OUT. PERIODIC
UPDATES OF THE FRANCHISE LAW ARE
NEEDED TO ADDRESS CHANGING
BEHAVIORS AND CONDITIONS AND
LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD IN THE
RELATIONSHIP. WE ARE PREPARED TO
ANSWER MEMBERS QUESTIONS ABOUT
THE BILL. GIVEN THE FULL AGENDA
, I WILL FOCUS MY OPENING
REMARKS ON A FEW PROVISIONS. THE
BIGGEST ISSUE AT THE HEART OF
THE SPILL IS HOW AUTO
MANUFACTURERS COMPENSATE DEALERS
AND THEIR EMPLOYEES FOR WARRANTY
AND RECALL WORK. THIS WORK IS
OFTEN IMPORTANT FOR MAINTAINING
CONSUMER SAFETY AND CAN ONLY BE
PERFORMED BY THE FRANCHISE
DEALER FRANCHISES. THIS WORK IS
DONE AT NO COST TO THE CONSUMER.
SO CLAIMS THAT FAIR COMPENSATION
FOR DEALERS AND THEIR
TECHNICIANS WILL AFFECT CONSUMER
PRICES IS SIMPLY A FABRICATION.
CUSTOMERS CUSTOMER PAID WORK IS
SET BY THE SAME THIRD PARTY.
TIME TIME GUIDES WE PROPOSE TO
USE FOR THE WORK DONE BY DEALERS
AND REIMBURSED BY MANUFACTURERS.
WE HAVE OFFERED REPEATEDLY TO
FIND SOME OTHER OBJECTIVE WAY TO
ESTABLISH THE APPROPRIATE TIME
ALLOWANCES FOR WARRANTY AND
RECALL WORK. BUT THOSE OFFERS
HAVE BEEN REJECTED. SO RATES FOR
LABOR AND PARTS ARE SET THANKS
TO PREVIOUS LEGISLATION. BUT THE
MANUFACTURERS, OF COURSE, PREFER
THE SYSTEM THAT ALLOWS THIS
COMPENSATION TO BE DETERMINED BY
THE MANUFACTURER. THIS MEANS
THAT DEALERS AND THEIR EMPLOYEES
ARE COMPENSATED 30 TO 40% LESS
THAN THEY WOULD BE IF AN
OBJECTIVE STANDARD WAS USED. THE
THIRD PART PARTY TIME GUIDE OUR
OFFER A FAIR OBJECTIVE STANDARD
FOR HOW MUCH THE TIME DEALERS
AND THEIR EMPLOYEES SHOULD BE
PAID FOR WORK. IN THE OPEN
MARKETPLACE OF NON WARRANTY AND
RECALL WORK WHERE CUSTOMERS CAN
SHOP FOR THE BEST PRICES BETWEEN
DEALERS AND INDEPENDENT SHOPS,
DEALERS AND THEIR TECHNICIANS
SUCCESSFULLY COMPETE AT PRICES
THAT APPROPRIATELY REFLECT THE
TIME IT TAKES FOR A TECHNICIAN
TO PERFORM REPAIR WORK. IF
ANYTHING, THIS BILL HELPS
DEALERS TAKE ON MORE WARRANTY,
WARRANTY AND RECALL WORK AND GET
CONSUMERS THAT FIXES THEY NEED
IN A MORE TIMELY MANNER. ANOTHER
IMPORTANT PROVISIONS OF THE BILL
PROVIDES NEEDED PROTECTION FOR
CONSUMERS BY SPECIFYING THAT
AUTO MANUFACTURERS CAN ONLY
CHARGE CONSUMERS SUBSCRIPTION
FEES FOR A VEHICLE FEATURES THAT
RECORD REQUIRE ONGOING WORK AND
COST OF THE MANUFACTURER. THAT
IS FAIR. UNFORTUNATELY
MANUFACTURERS PLAN TO USE
ONGOING SUBSCRIPTION PRICING FOR
AUTUMN AUTOMOTIVE FEATURES THAT
ARE ALREADY BUILT INTO THE CAR
COSTS, NOTHING TO ACTIVATE AND
REQUIRE NO ADDITIONAL WORK BY
THE MANUFACTURER HIDING THE
ACTUAL CONSUMER COST. MEMBERS
THINK ABOUT IT. THINK ABOUT HOW
THE AIRLINE INDUSTRY HAS EVOLVED
TO CHARGE A NEW FEE FOR EVERY
ASPECT OF TRAVEL. LUGGAGE FEES.
SEAT FEES, BOARDING FEES, EVEN
FEES TO SIT NEAR YOUR FAMILY OR
A NEW JUNK FEE STANDARD. ONGOING
COSTS FOR AUTOMOBILES,
ESPECIALLY FEATURES THAT IMPROVE
SAFETY SHOULD NOT BE HIDDEN AS
AN ALA CARTE ITEMS WHEN A
CONSUMER IS ALREADY PAID FOR
THEM, AS THEY DRIVE OFF THE LOT
THERE ARE OTHER PROVISIONS IN
THIS BILL WITHIN THE COMMITTEE'S
JURISDICTION, SUCH AS ALLOWING
DEALERS TO BAND TOGETHER TO
INSTALL BANK OF ELECTRIC VEHICLE
CHARGERS. IN THE INTEREST OF
TIME. I WILL NOT DISCUSS THOSE
HERE AS THEY ARE LAID OUT QUITE
CLEARLY IN THE COMMUNITY AND
ANALYSIS, BUT I AM I AM, OF
COURSE, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS RESPECT TO THOSE
ISSUES. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR
WITH ME TO TESTIFY AND SUPPORT
ON A B 473 IS KENTON STANHOPE OF
THE CALIFORNIA NEW COLOR? HARD
DEALERS ASSOCIATION. STEVE HOOD
FROM THE CALIFORNIA CONFERENCE
OF MACHINIST LOCAL 1173 AND
ANTHONY BENTO OF C N. C D. A IS
ALSO AVAILABLE TO ANSWER
TECHNICAL AND LEGAL QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU. MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS
CAN'T STAND UP ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA NEW CAR DEALERS
ASSOCIATION IN THE AUTHOR DID A
GREAT JOB IN SUMMARIZING THE
BILL, SO JUST KIND OF WANT TO
FOCUS ON A COUPLE ARGUMENTS THAT
WE WERE. WE'VE BEEN HEARING FROM
THE OPPOSITION AS IT PRETENDS TO
THE WARRANTY REIMBURSEMENT
PROVISIONS. FIRST THE OPPOSITION
SAYS THAT 84 73 WILL INCREASE
PRICES THAT CONSUMERS PAY FOR
NON WARRANTY WORK. UH WE THINK
THIS ARGUMENT IS FALSE AND
UNFORTUNATELY HAS LED TO SOME
CONFUSION IN ON EXACTLY WHAT THE
BILL IS TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. TO
BE CLEAR THE BILL DOES NOT SEEK
TO AMEND ANY PROVISIONS RELATED
TO CUSTOMER PAY WORK. RATHER 84
73 SIMPLY SEEKS TO ENSURE
MANUFACTURERS PAY THE SAME
AMOUNT AS THE CONSUMER FOR THE
SAME JOB. IT'S ALSO WORTH NOTING
THAT THIS SAME ARGUMENT WAS USED
FOR ENTERING A B 1 79 WHEN THE
MANUFACTURER SAID THAT BILL
WOULD ALSO INCREASE CUSTOMER
PAID WORK RATES WHEN WE RAISED
LABOR RATES TO THE SAME LEVEL AS
CONCERN FOR WARRANTY AND RECALL
WORK, AS WE DID FOR CUSTOMER
PAID JOBS AS WELL, UM, SINCE THE
ENACTMENT OF THAT BILL, THERE
HAS BEEN NO EVIDENCE NOR COULD
THERE BE UM, THAT THAT BILL HAS
RESULTED IN INCREASED PRICES TO
CONSUMERS. WE FEEL A BEFORE 73
IS NO DIFFERENT. SECOND I WOULD
LIKE TO ADDRESS THAT THE
CLAIMANT THIRD PARTY TIME GUIDES
ARE ILLEGITIMATE AND SHOULD NOT
BE USED FOR WARRANTY AND RECALL
WORK. THEIR PARTY TIME GUIDES
ARE PUBLISHED BY REPUTABLE
COMPANIES LIKE CHILTON IS ALL
DATA. MITCHELL'S THAT HAVE
DECADES LONG EXPERIENCE IN
PUBLISHING AND STANDARDIZING
AUTO REPAIR MANUALS FOR ALL
BRANDS. THESE GUIDES PROVIDE
INDUSTRY STANDARDS THAT ARE USED
IN TENS OF MILLIONS. OF SERVICE
REPAIR JOBS ANNUALLY AT
DEALERSHIPS AND INDEPENDENT, UM
, AUTO REPAIR SHOPS. IMPORTANTLY
THE IMPORTANT THING TO NOTE IS
THAT DEALERS DO NOT HAVE ANY
OWNERSHIP OR CONTROL OVER THESE
THIRD PARTY TIME GUIDES, AND
THUS WE CANNOT MANIPULATE OR
CHANGE THE ALLOTMENTS THAT ARE
PUBLISHED IN THESE MANUALS. THIS
CONTRAST SHARPLY FROM THE TIME
GUYS BEING USED FOR WARRANTY AND
RECALL WORK IN WHICH THE O E. M
S ARE JUDGE AND JURY AND CAN
CHANGE THEM ON A WIN. WITH NO
EXPLANATION TO THE DEALER AND
TECHNICIAN AS TO WHY NOW, WHILE
C. N C D BELIEVES THEY'RE USING
THIRD PARTY TIME GUIDES FOR
WARRANTY AND RECALL WORK IS THE
MOST SIMPLE, OBJECTIVE AND FAIR
WAY TO DETERMINE TIME ALLOWANCES
. FOR THIS TYPE OF WORK. WE
UNDERSTAND THERE MAY BE
DIFFERENT APPROACHES. THIS IS
WHY I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IT
ABUNDANTLY CLEAR TO THE
COMMITTEE THAT CNC DÍAS OPEN TO
IDENTIFYING DIFFERENT A
DIFFERENT STANDARD BEYOND 3RD
3RD PARTY TIME GUIDES SO AS LONG
AS THAT STANDARD IS OBJECTIVE,
UNLIKE CURRENT LAW, TO THIS END,
WE ARE COMMITTED TO CONTINUING
TO NEGOTIATE IN GOOD FAITH WITH
THE MANUFACTURERS TO FIND A
COMPROMISE CNC TO RESPECTFULLY
REQUEST YOUR I VOTE. AND AS THE
AUTHOR MENTIONED, ANTHONY BENTO
, OUR LEAGUE CHIEF LEGAL COUNSEL
IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY LEGAL OR
TECHNICAL QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.
MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS. MY NAME
IS STEVE HOOD, UM, HERE
REPRESENTING THE CALIFORNIA
CONFERENCE OF MACHINISTS. LOCAL
UNION 11 73, AND WE ARE IN
STRONG SUPPORT OF A B 4 73. I'VE
BEEN A MASTER TECH FOR 27 YEARS
AND I'M CURRENTLY ATTACK. MM
ATTACK AND UNION SHOP STEWARD AT
ANTIOCH AUTO CENTER, THE NISSAN
DEALERSHIP. MY TECHNICIAN.
TECHNICIAN COLLEAGUES AND I TAKE
PRIDE IN OUR SERVICE AND REPAIR
WORK. THAT WE DO EVERY DAY TO
MAKE THESE CARS SAFER FOR ALL
CALIFORNIA IN ADDITION TO TAKING
GREAT PRIDE IN THIS WORK, WE
ALSO PUT IN A LOT OF EFFORT YOU
PUT IN THE SAME AMOUNT OF EFFORT
WHETHER THE JOB IS WARRANTY OR
RECALL OR CUSTOMER PAY WORK.
UNFORTUNATELY THE REALITY AT
DEALERSHIPS EVERYWHERE IS THAT
WE GET PAID SIGNIFICANTLY LESS
FOR WARRANTY AND RECALL WORK.
BECAUSE THE MANUFACTURERS
MANIPULATE THE TIME ALLOWANCES.
WHEN MANUFACTURERS UNILATERALLY
LOWER THE TIME ALLOWANCES DURING
A RECALL OR USE TIME GUIDES THAT
ARE UNREALISTIC AND CANNOT BE
PERFORMED IN THE TIME ALLOTTED.
TECHNICIANS AND THEIR SERVICE
DEPARTMENTS SUFFER DAILY.
GETTING PAID LESS FOR WARRANTY
AND RECALL WORK AS MANY NEGATIVE
IMPACTS ON TECHNICIANS BEYOND
GETTING PAID LESS FOR THE SAME
WORK. DISINCENTIVIZE. THE MOST
HIGHLY SKILLED TEXT TO GET
CERTIFIED TO DO WORK ON RECALL
AND WARRANTY BECAUSE THEY WOULD
RATHER DO CUSTOMER PAY WORK,
WHICH PAYS A FAIR WAGE. HMM. TO
THIS END, WE HAVE 10 TEXTS. ONLY
THREE OF US ARE CERTIFIED TO DO
WARRANTY AND RECALL. AND 10.
YEARS AGO, THERE WAS SEVEN OF US
THAT WERE CERTIFIED TO DO
WARRANTY AND RECALL. IT ALSO
CREATES UNNECESSARY FRICTION IN
THE WORKPLACE. AS TEXT THAT ARE
ASSIGNED WARRANTY AND RECALL
REPAIRS FEEL CHEATED THAT THEY
WERE NOT ASSIGNED THE CUSTOMER
PAY WORK. IT ALSO YOUR TIME IS
UP. SO IF YOU CAN JUST FINISH
UP, PLEASE. WE ARE IN STRONG
SUPPORT OF A B 4 73, AND WE
WOULD LIKE YOUR RIVAL. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE
IN THE ROOM WISHING TO TESTIFY
IN FAVOR OF THE BILL? MADAM
CHAIR COMMITTEE. MY NAME IS
THOMAS BRADEN. I'M FOR THE
CALIFORNIA CONFERENCE MACHINISTS
AND WE SUPPORT MAYBE 4 73. THANK
YOU. MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS MAP
BROUGHT HERE ON BEHALF OF THE
MACHINISTS AND TEAMSTERS AND
SUPPORT THANK YOU. GOOD
AFTERNOON. STEVE OLDER, UM, AREA
DIRECTOR OF LOCAL LODGE LEVEL 73
REPRESENT MECHANICS IN SEVERAL
COUNTIES IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA,
AND WE STAND IN SUPPORT OF ABC
OR 73. MADAM CHAIR BRIAN FEELY,
BUSINESS REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE
MACHINIST UNION ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA CONFERENCE.
MACHINISTS TECHNICIANS I
REPRESENT STRONGLY URGE YOUR
SUPPORT OF A B. FOR 73. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU SEEING NO ONE
ELSE CAN WE HAVE THE OPPOSITION
UP TO THE TABLE, PLEASE? MADAM
CHAIR WITH THE INDULGENCE OF THE
COMMITTEE. I'M SORT OF A
TWEENER. DON'T YOU GO AHEAD AND
SPEAK WHILE THEY COME UP. OKAY
THANK YOU. ROBERT CARROLL,
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE
CONSUMER FEDERATION OF
CALIFORNIA. UM WE DON'T HAVE AN
OFFICIAL POSITION ON THE BILL.
WE DO SEE SOME PROVISIONS IN THE
BILL THAT WE LIKE. FOR EXAMPLE,
WE'RE CONCERNED FROM THE
CONSUMER POINT OF VIEW THAT
SUBSCRIPTION ITEMS THINGS THAT
CONSUMERS SHOULD REASONABLY
ASSUME. ARE PART OF WHAT THEY
PAY FOR. WERE NOT TAKING
TESTIMONY. JUST YOUR POSITION.
OKAY WE ARE CONCERNED WITH
CERTAIN OTHER ASPECTS OF THAT
ARE NOT IN THE BILL. UM AND WE
WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH THE
AUTHOR AND SPONSOR ON THOSE ANTI
CONSUMER PROVISIONS. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. OKAY. CAN WE HEAR
FROM THE OPPOSITION NOW? GOOD
AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS
OF THE COMMITTEE JOHN MOFFITT ON
BEHALF OF THE ALLIANCE FOR
AUTOMOTIVE INNOVATION, WHERE THE
TRADE ASSOCIATION FOR THE AUTO
MANUFACTURERS AND THE TECHNOLOGY
PROVIDERS THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE
FOR ABOUT 98% OF THE VEHICLES
THAT ARE ON THE ROAD TODAY. UM
I'LL START OFF THIS COMMITTEE
THE SAME WAY I STARTED OFF THE
LAST ONE. I APOLOGIZE. I'M SORRY
THAT YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH THIS
AS MEMBERS. YOU HAVE PROBABLY
SEEN MORE OF US AND MORE OF
THOSE FOLKS THAN YOU AND YOUR
STAFF EVER WANTED TO SEE IN ANY
ONE PARTICULAR YEAR. BUT WE ARE
WHERE WE ARE. WE PREFER TO
HANDLE THESE THINGS ON A
CONTRACTUAL BASIS WITH OUR
BUSINESS PARTNERS, BUT WE HAVE
THE BILL THAN IT IS WHAT IT IS,
UH, THERE ARE ABOUT A DOZEN
CHALLENGES IN THE BILL. I WILL
FOCUS ON A COUPLE OF THE THINGS
THAT THE THAT THE PROPONENTS OF
THE BILL FOCUSED ON. I JUST
THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO START BY
NOTING THAT THIS GENTLEMAN AND
HIS COLLEAGUES DON'T WORK FOR US
. WE DON'T SET HIS PAY SCALE IS
PAY SCALE IS SET BY THE DEALERS.
THEY DON'T WORK FOR US. THEY
WORK FOR THEM. AND SO I
CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND IF, UM IF
THERE'S A CHALLENGE THAT THAT HE
AND HIS COLLEAGUES ARE FACING,
BUT THAT REALLY IS AN ISSUE THAT
THAT THE DEALERS CAN ADDRESS
DIRECTLY. UM THE THERE'S BEEN A
LOT OF ATTENTION ON THIRD PARTY
TIME GUIDES. I THINK THE
ANALYSIS DOES A NICE JOB OF
GOING THROUGH HOW THIS HAS BEEN
DISCUSSED IN CALIFORNIA HOW IT'S
BEEN REJECTED IN CALIFORNIA.
IT'S BEEN PROPOSED IN 22, MAYBE
EVEN MORE STATES THIS YEAR HAS
BEEN REJECTED. AND ALMOST EVERY
SINGLE ONE OF THOSE STATES AND
ALMOST EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE
STATES. HAS ACTUALLY ADOPTED THE
COMPROMISE APPROACH THAT WAS PUT
FORWARD IN CALIFORNIA IN 2019,
WHICH WAS EVENTUALLY SIGNED BY
GOVERNOR NEWSOM. WHEN THIS BILL
WAS FIRST PUT FORWARD THE
ARGUMENT AS TO WHY THIS
PROVISION WAS NECESSARY WAS
ABOUT PROCESS. THE PROCESS WAS
TOO CUMBERSOME. NOW IN OTHER
STATES WHERE THIS PROCESS IS IN
PLACE WE'RE SEEING ABOUT 98% OF
THE CLAIMS ARE APPROVED AND GET
THROUGH. AND THESE THESE ARE THE
INSTANCES WHERE IT TAKES A
TECHNICIAN MORE TIME TO CONDUCT
A REPAIR THAN WHAT THE TIME
GUIDE ALLOWS. I THINK IS PART OF
THE LAST COMPROMISE. WE
RECOGNIZE THAT FROM TIME TO TIME
THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, AND
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO FINISH UP
AND SO WE BUILT IN A PROCESS TO
ADDRESS THAT. IN 2019
MANUFACTURERS PAID OVER A
BILLION DOLLARS IN WARRANTY
REPAIR TO DEALERS IN CALIFORNIA
. THIS BILL IS GOING TO INCREASE
THAT BY ABOUT 250 TO $400
MILLION EVERY YEAR, WITH NO NEW
REPAIRS TO SHOW FOR IT JUST THE
SAME AMOUNT AT A HIGHER PRICE,
WHICH IS GOING TO PLAY ITS WAY
THROUGH THE ECONOMY AND HIGHER
PRICES TO CONSUMERS. THESE
REASONS WERE OPPOSED TO THE
BILL. GOOD AFTERNOON MEMBERS.
TALUS SLICK WITH SCOUT MOTORS
APPRECIATE THE TIME THIS MORNING
THIS AFTERNOON. UH SCOUT MOTORS,
A NEW ELECTRIC VEHICLE COMPANY
LOOKING TO SERVE THE CALIFORNIA
MARKET. OR AN INDEPENDENT
COMPANY SEEKING TO REINTRODUCE
AN ICONIC AMERICAN BRAND BACK TO
CONSUMERS, AND WE'RE EXCITED
ABOUT THE CALIFORNIA MARKET. WE
HAVE NO DEALERS. WE'VE NOT SOLD
YET. ANY CARS AS OF YET, WE'RE
HOPING TO AND 2026. WE'VE NOT
DETERMINE EXACTLY HOW WE'RE
GOING TO SERVE CALIFORNIA
CONSUMERS. AS YOU ALL KNOW,
CALIFORNIA'S A LEADER IN THE V
ADOPTION AND INNOVATION. THERE
IS A VERY I WOULD HOPEFULLY
DESCRIBE IT AS NARROW. UM ISSUE
IN THIS PARTICULAR BILL THAT
WOULD PRECLUDE US FROM BRINGING
OUR PRODUCT TO CALIFORNIA
CONSUMERS WHERE THEY ARE, UM WE
DON'T BELIEVE IT'S NECESSARILY
THE INTENT OF THE AUTHOR. UM AS
IT STANDS AS THE BILL, AS
AMENDED WOULD SORT OF FORCE US
INTO A NON EXISTENT DEALER
NETWORK. UM SO ALL WHERE ARE
ASKING? AND AS INDICATED IN OUR
OPPOSE UNLESS AMENDED BILL IS TO
THE AUTHOR AND THE SPONSORS TO
WORK WITH US TO ADDRESS WHAT WE
BELIEVE IS AN UNINTENDED
CONSEQUENCES. BUT SOMETHING THAT
WOULD SEND A CHILLING MESSAGE TO
THOSE SEEKING TO BRING ELECTRIC
VEHICLES TO CALIFORNIA IN ORDER
TO MEET OUR AGGRESSIVE E V GOALS
THAT WE SHOULD BE PROUD OF,
ACTUALLY, BUT, UM DESPITE THAT,
SO I APPRECIATE THE TIME AND WE
WOULD OPPOSE UNLESS AMENDED AND
LOOK FORWARD TO HOPEFULLY
WORKING AT THE AUTHOR AND HER
HER TEAM. THANK YOU. IS THERE
ANYONE ELSE IN THE ROOM WISHING
TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THE
BILL? MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS. BRECK
LAD GUILTY WITH THE APEX GROUP
ON BEHALF OF NISSAN IN
OPPOSITION. GOOD AFTERNOON BILL,
ACTING WITH THE SILICON VALLEY
LEADERSHIP GROUP IN RESPECTFUL
OPPOSITION. YOU PAY THOSE
REPRESENTING FORD IN OPPOSITION.
YOU KNOW, LIKE GARCIA FOR TOYOTA
IN OPPOSITION. GOOD AFTERNOON,
MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS, KURT KIMMEL
SHOW ON BEHALF OF THE CIVIL
JUSTICE ASSOCIATION OF
CALIFORNIA AND OPPOSITION.
HOFFMAN ON BEHALF OF TECHNET.
RESPECTFULLY OPPOSED UNLESS
AMENDED. THANK YOU. AFTERNOON
IMMEDIATELY LILY WITH MERCEDES
BENZ IN OPPOSITION. GOOD
AFTERNOON. MATT CLEMENCY ON
BEHALF OF VOLKSWAGEN GROUP
RESPECTFULLY OPPOSED. CHAIR AND
MEMBERS CLIFF COST ON BEHALF OF
GENERAL MOTORS AND RESPECTFUL
OPPOSITION. THANK YOU. MADAM
CHAIR MEMBERS DOMINIC TOMORROW
HERE ON BEHALF OF BMW, ALSO IN
OPPOSITION. OKAY WE'RE GONNA GO
TO THE PHONE LINES. I DO WANT TO
REMIND THE PUBLIC WHO'S WAITING
ON THE PHONE LINE THAT IT'S JUST
NAME ANYONE YOU'RE REPRESENTING
IN YOUR POSITION. WE'RE NOT
TAKING TESTIMONY. AND IN
ADDITION, WHEN THE OPERATOR
CALLS YOUR NUMBER, YOU DON'T
HAVE TO ASK IF WE CAN HEAR YOU
JUST START TALKING. OKAY WITH
THAT OPERATOR IF YOU CAN OPEN UP
THE PHONE LINES FOR A B 4 73
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM
CHAIR FOR THOSE WHO WISH TO
SPEAK IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION
TO THIS BILL, PLEASE PRESS ONE
THAN ZERO, PRESS ONE AND ZERO.
WE'RE GONNA GO TO LINE 37. I
MEAN, PARDON? MAINLINE 37. I
APOLOGIZE. 9 37 YEAR, LINUS NOW
OPEN. CHAIR REMEMBERS JAMES
LOMBARD ON BEHALF OF CALIFORNIA
MOTORCYCLE DEALERS ASSOCIATION
AND SUPPORT. THANK YOU. AND WE
WILL NOW MOVE ON TO LINE 41 LINE
41 YOUR LINE IS OPEN. GOOD
AFTERNOON. SHARON MEMBERS KAREN
SCHMELZER WITH MATH MEN AND THEY
HAVE TO THE MOTORCYCLE INDUSTRY
COUNCIL, THE SPECIALTY VEHICLE
INSTITUTE OF AMERICA AND THE
RECREATIONAL OFF HIGHWAY
VEHICLES WITH THE ASIAN. WE HAVE
AN OPPOSED UNLESS A MINUTE
POSITION ON THE BILL AND WE HAVE
BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE
AUTHOR'S OFFICE AND OUR
CONCERNS. THANK YOU. LINE 59.
GOOD AFTERNOON. SHARON MEMBERS
MELISSA HIGH SCHOOL ON BEHALF OF
AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR COMPANY IN
OPPOSITION. THANK YOU. LINE 58.
GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIR MEMBERS.
CODY BOILS, CARMAX AND SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. THERE IS NO ONE ELSE
WHO SIGNALED THAT THEY WISH TO
SPEAK. WE WILL BRING IT BACK TO
THE COMMITTEE. MR FONG. THANK
YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I JUST HAVE A
QUESTION. MAYBE YOU COULD SHED
SOME LIGHT IN TERMS OF, UM TO
THE AUTHOR OR TO THE TO EITHER
ONE EITHER SIDE OF THE AUTHOR IS
HAS A REPUTATION OF BEING FAIR
AND TRANSPARENT AND OPEN TO
TRYING TO FIND A WORKABLE
SOLUTION. THIS IS CERTAINLY A
KIND OF A CATCH ALL BILL, UH, I
THINK YOU AND I HAVE BEEN IN THE
LEGISLATURE WHILE WE'VE WE'VE
DEALT WITH OTHER BILLS SIMILAR
IN THIS SPACE. IT SEEMS TO ME
THAT LISTENING TO BOTH SIDES
THAT YEAH. EVERYONE'S PRETTY FAR
APART RIGHT NOW. UM CAN YOU SEND
SOMEBODY ON LIKE HOW THE
NEGOTIATIONS ARE GOING WHERE?
WHERE IS THE CONSENSUS GOING TO
BE ON THIS? ESPECIALLY ON THE
HIGHLY CONTROVERSIAL STUFF. WELL
I THINK A COUPLE OF THINGS I
KNOW I HAVE MY STUFF. DUDE, I'M
IN MY TEAM DO IT AS WELL. WE'VE
TAKEN LOADS OF AMENDMENTS
ALREADY, AND WE'VE REMOVED AND
I'LL GIVE YOU JUST AN IDEA.
BECAUSE WE'VE LISTENED TO THE
OPPOSITION. WE REMOVED ASSESS
ARIES AND OTHER ITEMS FROM THE
PROTESTS RIGHT ON ALLOCATION,
AND THAT WAS REQUESTED BY A F A
. I WE CLARIFIED THE LIMITATIONS
. SUBSCRIPTION FEES DOES NOT
APPLY TO FEATURES THAT RELY ON
ONGOING ACCESS TO SELL YOUR DATA
CELLULAR DATA NETWORKS. UM AND
WE ALSO TOOK THAT FROM A F. I
REQUESTED THAT WE NARROW THAT
PROVISION. UM WE RESTORED THE
ABILITY OF O E. M S TO USE, UH,
REQUEST FOR ROW FIRST REQUESTED
THAT BY A F I WITH AN ADDITIONAL
DID IT BUT ADDED PROTECTION
AGAINST USING THEM IN BAD FAITH
DURING NEGOTIATIONS. WE CHANGE
REQUIREMENT THAT THE VEHICLE
ALLOCATION INFORMATION BE FILED
WITH THE MOTOR VEHICLE BOARD AND
INSTEAD REQUIRE THAT WE PROVIDED
DIRECTLY TO DEALERS WHO
REQUESTED IT AGAIN. WE ASKED
THREE. THEY REQUESTED THAT FROM
US. CLARIFIED THE LANGUAGE
PROHIBITING COMPETITION AND
SALES SERVICE OF VEHICLES DOES
NOT APPLY TO OVER THE AIR
SOFTWARE UPDATES OR USING NEW
EXISTING FRANCHISES TO SELL A
NEW LINE OF MOTOR VEHICLES.
SPECIFY THE MANUFACTURER PAYS
FOR 50% OF PUBLIC FACING CHARGER
. THE DEALER AGREES TO PAY THE
MANUFACTURER 50% OF THE REVENUE
FROM THAT STATION. UM WE'VE
CLARIFIED THAT THE LANGUAGE
AROUND SHARED CHARGING
INFRASTRUCTURE APPLIES, UM,
APPLES APPLIES TO MULTIPLE
DEALERSHIPS, JOINING TOGETHER
WITH A BUILT IN BANK OF
CHARGERS. WE STRIKED A PROVISION
RESTRICTING PUBLIC FUNDING FOR E
V. CHARGERS WE ARE WORKING WITH
HIM, AND I THINK WE HAVE A LOT
OF THINGS THAT WE'VE WORKED
TOGETHER ON. UH CAN WE MAKE IT
BETTER? OF COURSE. AND WE'RE WE
KNOW WE CAN DO THAT AND WE WILL
CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE
OPPOSITION. WOULD YOU LIKE TO
SAY SOMETHING? YES. THANKS FOR
THE QUESTION. VICE CHAIRMAN, I
THINK, UM WE'RE LOOKING FOR AN
OBJECTIVE STANDARD ON THE TIME
ISSUE. I THINK THAT'S THE MOST
CONTENTIOUS ISSUE. WE ARE FAR
APART ON IT. I WOULD SAY RIGHT
NOW, BUT WE WILL JUST ECHO WHAT
I SAID IN MY TALKING POINTS AND
ALSO, WHAT THE AUTHOR JUST SAID
IS. WE WANT TO KEEP GOING TO THE
TABLE AND FIND AN OBJECTIVE
STANDARD OR WAY TO DETERMINE
TIME ALLOWANCES THAT BOTH SIDES
CAN CAN CAN WORK WITH AND LIVE
WITH. THAT'S THAT'S OUR ULTIMATE
GOAL. WE HAVE THE SAME TO THE
OPPOSITION IN TERMS OF YOUR VIEW
OF THE STATUS OF NEGOTIATIONS.
YEAH YOU KNOW, LOOK, WE OFFERED
A SET OF AMENDMENTS THE WE
DIDN'T SEE ANY OF THESE
AMENDMENTS THAT WERE PUT INTO
THE BILL AND THE VERSION THAT
YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU. WE DID
NOT SEE THOSE BEFORE THEY WERE
PUT INTO THE BILL. RIGHT? AND SO
I OBVIOUSLY WE WANT TO CONTINUE
WORKING WITH THE AUTHOR. WE WANT
TO CONTINUE WORKING WITH THE
PROPONENTS. UM, BUT BUT YOU
KNOW, I DON'T I DON'T WANT NOT
WANT THE COMMITTEE TO HAVE THE
IMPRESSION THAT THE AMENDMENTS
THAT WERE PUT INTO THIS BILL
WHERE THINGS THAT WERE AGREED
UPON BY THE PARTIES, THEY
WEREN'T WERE A LOT OF THEM
DISCUSSED. YES WHERE THEY PART
OF THE ONGOING DISCUSSIONS.
ABSOLUTELY THEY WERE. DID WE ASK
? OKAY, WE'RE DONE ON THAT
ISSUE. GO PUT IT IN THE BILL.
NO, WE DID NOT. ON THIS
OBJECTIVE STANDARD FOR THIRD
PARTY TIME GUIDES. THERE'S
NOTHING MORE OBJECTIVE THAN A
STOPWATCH. UH THERE IS NOTHING
LESS OBJECTED THAN A SKEWED
APPROACH WHERE YOU ARE PUTTING
INTO STATUTE. AH THE ABILITY FOR
DEALERS TO GO TO THE THIRD PARTY
TIME GUIDE CREATOR AND PUBLISHER
OF THEIR CHOOSING. AND PUTTING
IN THE THEIR HANDS THE ABILITY
TO SELL MORE TIME GUIDES TO
DEALERS. WHAT ARE THOSE
PUBLISHERS GOING TO DO? THAT
PRICE IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO GO
UP BECAUSE THE MORE IT GOES UP.
THE MORE DEALERS WILL BUY THOSE
TIME GUIDES BECAUSE UNDER THIS
BILL, THEY GET TO CHARGE THE
MANUFACTURER MORE. IT'S THE
WRONG KIND OF MARKET INCENTIVE
THAN WHAT YOU WANT OUT THERE. WE
OFFERED AN AMENDMENT ON THAT
PROVISION. WE WERE TOLD THE
PROCESS WAS CUMBERSOME. IT SEEMS
TO BE WORKING IN OTHER PLACES.
BUT WE WERE TOLD THE PROCESS WAS
CUMBERSOME, SO WE OFFERED AN
AMENDMENT. SUCH THAT IF THE
DEALER WOULD TURN IN THE
TECHNICIANS TIMESTAMPS SHOWING
THAT THAT PARTICULAR REPAIR TOOK
MORE TIME THAN WHAT THE TIME
GUIDE ALLOWED. THEN IT REBUTTED
LEE PRESUMED TO BE ACCURATE, AND
THEY WERE PAID. RIGHT NO
REASONABLENESS STANDARD. NO, NO
SORT OF BACK AND FORTH. BUT TURN
IN THE TIME STAMPS SHOW US THAT
IT TOOK MORE, AND IT'S
REBUTTABLE PRESUMED APPROVED.
AND THAT WAS REJECTED. SO LET ME
JUST SAY THAT THAT THERE'S GOING
TO BE SOME SOUNDS TO ME LIKE
THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF MORE
INTENSE AND PRETTY PAINFUL
NEGOTIATIONS. UM AND I THINK
THAT SEEING AROUND LATER AS THIS
FILM GOES FORWARD, WE GOTTA HAVE
SOME SEMBLANCE OF MORE SUBSTANCE
SO THAT WE CAN, UM WE CAN REALLY
FLESH THIS OUT. BUT YOU KNOW, I
CERTAINLY WILL WILL VOTE. TO
ALLOW THIS BUILDING FORWARD, BUT
I IMPLORED TO THE TO THE AUTHOR
THAT, UM, WE NEED TO WE NEED TO
NEGOTIATE TABLE QUICKLY. QUICKER
VICE CHAIR, TOO. TO YOUR
QUESTION. UM. AS IT RELATES TO
OUR OUR PARTICULAR ITEM IN THE
BILL. UM THERE WAS AN AMENDMENT
THAT BEFORE WE WOULD HAVE BEEN,
WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO SELL
INTO CALIFORNIA AND AS AMENDED,
WE CAN DO SO THROUGH A DEALER
NETWORK OF WHICH WE DON'T HAVE.
SO THAT'S AND CERTAINLY AS THE
CHAIR IS, CERTAINLY WON'T SPEAK
FOR THE CHAIR. BUT CERTAINLY THE
AVISAIL PART PROBABLY IS VERY
CONCERNING TO THE COMMITTEE. AND
SO THAT IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING
THAT THAT I KNOW THE AUTHOR IS
PROBABLY GONNA HAVE TO WORK THAT
WITH TWO THANK YOU. ANY OTHER
MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE. YES.
OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S UM. THIS IS
ACTUALLY PRETTY EXCITING. AH! TO
BE ABLE TO GET ALL THESE FOLKS
TOGETHER AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO
MAKE IT WORK LIKE THAT'S THE
THAT'S THE STUFF. YOU COME UP
HERE FOR. AT LEAST I DO. UM
OBVIOUSLY. UM BECAUSE THIS IS
JUST THE BEGINNING OF THE
PROCESS. UM I DO INTEND TO, UM
VOTE FOR IT TO CONTINUE THE
DIALOGUE WHILE EVERYONE IS STILL
TALKING. UM BUT OBVIOUSLY
THERE'S STILL SOME RED FLAGS
THAT WOULDN'T THAT I'M NOT EVEN
SURE I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH
AS IT CONTINUES, IF IT STAYS THE
SAME WAY. UM BUT OBVIOUSLY, UM
UM. OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S SOME, UM
. OTHER HURDLES THAT I'M HOPING
YOU GUYS CAN GET PAST. UM BUT
EITHER WAY, I AM LOOKING FORWARD
TO HEARING THE STORY WHEN IT'S
ALWAYS ALWAYS DONE. ANYONE ELSE?
WELL I THINK IT'S UNFORTUNATE
THAT THE MANUFACTURERS AND THE
DEALERS ARE STRUGGLING WITH THE
NEGOTIATIONS AT THIS POINT,
CERTAINLY THEY'RE VERY IMPORTANT
BUSINESS PARTNERS FOR EACH
OTHER. UM SO I THINK WHAT YOU'RE
HEARING FROM THE COMMITTEE AND I
KNOW I'VE HEARD FROM MANY
MEMBERS MYSELF THAT MEMBERS
WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE THE
PARTY THE EACH SIDE AND THE
DIFFERENT PARTIES GET CLOSER
TOGETHER AS THIS MOVES FORWARD.
AND YOU MAY NOT GET THE RESULT
THAT YOU WANT WITH THE BILL IN
THIS FORM. WHEN IT COMES BACK,
THERE IS DEFINITELY A DESIRE TO
ALLOW THE CONVERSATION TO
CONTINUE, AND I WILL BE PASSING
THE BILL IN THIS, UH,
RECOMMENDING THAT THE BILL
PASSED FORWARD IN THIS FORM, BUT
THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF
UNCOMFORTABLENESS FROM MEMBERS
ABOUT THE CURRENT FORM. I
PERSONALLY I THINK THE THIRD
PARTY GUIDE UM YOU KNOW, LISTEN,
I HAVE NO IDEA HOW LONG IT TAKES
TO REPAIR ANYTHING. I DON'T
ATTEMPT TO REPAIR ANYTHING ON MY
OWN CAR, SO I'M NOT THAT I DON'T
WANT TO BE IN THE POSITION OF
HAVING TO TRY TO PICK A SIDE ON
THAT. IT DOES CONCERN ME THAT
THE THIRD PARTY GUIDE. MY
UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT SAYS
RIGHT ON IT THAT IT'S NOT TO BE
USED FOR WARRANTY WORK BECAUSE
OF THE REPETITIOUS NATURE OF THE
WORK. SO THAT IS A YOU KNOW, A
BIT OF A CONCERN, AND WE WOULD
LIKE TO SEE A COMPROMISE IN THAT
POSITION. SO WE ALL CERTAINLY
ALL BE WATCHING. AS THIS MOVES
FORWARD. I REALLY ADMIRE YOU FOR
TAKING THIS ON ASSEMBLY MEMBER.
UM BUT, UM, YOU KNOW YOU WANT
THIS BILL, ALSO TO BE IN A FORM
WHERE IT'S NOT GOING TO GET
VETOED, SO I DO HOPE THAT THE
SIDES CAN COME CLOSER TOGETHER
AND THAT YOU CONTINUE TO ENGAGE
IN NEGOTIATION. WITH THAT. DO WE
HAVE A MOTION? WE HAVE A MOTION
IN A SECOND ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
I'M SORRY. WOULD YOU LIKE TO
CLOSE? I WOULD I WANT TO ASSURE
YOU AND I APPRECIATE, UM
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S FONG,
ACKNOWLEDGING THE FACT THAT I
REALLY TRIED TO COMPROMISE AND
WORK THINGS OUT, AND WE WILL. WE
WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT. I KNOW
ALL OF THESE PLAYERS ON EITHER
SIDE OF THIS THAT WE KNOW THAT
WE CAN WORK TOGETHER. UM, I
DON'T TAKE THESE THINGS
PERSONALLY, I TAKE THEM AS
WHAT'S THE BEST FOR OUR
CONSTITUENTS. AND I THINK WE CAN
GET THERE SO WITH THAT? I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR I
VOTE. HE'D BE 473 DO PASS AND RE
REFERRED TO COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. FRIEDMAN
FRIEDMAN, I FONG FUNG I BERMAN.
CARILLO VÚI DAVIES BABIES I
GIBSON ART. PART I JACKSON
JACKSON. I CHOLERA, CHOLERA. I
LOWENTHAL THOUGHT I WIN.
SANCHEZ. SANCHEZ I WALLACE WARD
WICKS. NINE VOTES. THE BILL IS
OUT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE'LL
LEAVE THE ROLE OPEN FOR ABSENT
MEMBERS. THANK YOU. COMMITTEE.
GOOD LUCK. SOMEBODY MEMBER
QUIRK-SILVA. WITH A B 10 12.
GOOD AFTERNOON MEMBERS AND MADAM
CHAIR. I WANT TO FIRST BEGIN BY
ACCEPTING THE COMMITTEE'S
PROPOSED AMENDMENTS AND THANK
THE CHAIR AND COMMITTEE STAFF
FOR THEIR WORK ON THIS BILL.
COLLEAGUES THIS WILL BE ANOTHER
BILL THAT DOES BRING UP
QUESTIONS, AND I THINK WE ARE
BEST IN DEMOCRACY WHEN WE HAVE
QUESTIONS, AND WHEN WE HAVE, UH
, ROBUST DISCUSSION, MAYBE 10 12
IS A PRAGMATIC TRANSPARENCY
MEASURE THAT WILL RESULT IN MORE
DATA TO BETTER UNDERSTAND CLEAN
TRANSPORTATION CHOICES. THE BILL
WILL REQUIRE WILL REQUIRE THE
CALIFORNIA AIR RESOURCES BOARD
TO PERFORM AS PART OF ITS
ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS, A
GREENHOUSE GAS LIFE CYCLE
ANALYSIS OF THE REQUIRED
TECHNOLOGY BEFORE A MOBILE
SOURCE REGULATION CAN BE
ADOPTED. SO I WANT TO EXPLAIN
THIS BECAUSE TYPICALLY, IF YOU
THINK ABOUT LIFE CYCLE ANALYSIS
, YOU DON'T REALLY THINK OF
VEHICLES YOU THINK OF POSSIBLY,
UH, CATERPILLARS, BUT THINK
ABOUT THAT LIFE CYCLE A COCOON.
IT GOES THROUGH THE PROCESS. SO
WHY WOULD WE BE USING THAT FOR A
VEHICLE AND THIS IS REALLY TO
SET AND TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A
VISUAL IS THAT WHEN WE DO AN
ANALYSIS, BUT WE ONLY DO AN
ANALYSIS ON ONE PART OF THE
VEHICLE FOR EXAMPLE. THE TAIL
PART TAILPIPE AND THE MISSIONS
THAT'S ONLY A PART TO THE
VEHICLE. SO WE WANT YOU TO THINK
HOLISTICALLY HERE. THIS
REQUIREMENT WILL ALLOW
CALIFORNIA TO BETTER QUANTIFY
THE EFFECTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE
POLLUTION RESULTING FROM THE
ADOPTION OF STATE POLICIES
FOCUSED ON VEHICLE TECHNOLOGY
REQUIREMENTS. THIS BILL DOES NOT
REQUIRE THE AIR RESOURCES BOARD
TO MANDATE REGULATIONS IN
RESPONSE TO THE DATA PRODUCED
FROM THE GREENHOUSE GAS
LIFECYCLE ANALYSIS. WHAT THIS
DOES IS. IT IS A TRANSPARENCY
BILL THAT CAN BE INFORMATIVE TO
THIS BODY, WHICH HAS THE
RESPONSIBILITY TO ENSURE THAT
CALIFORNIA IS MEETING THE
GREENHOUSE GAS REDUCTION GOALS.
IT IS ESTABLISHED WITH ME TODAY
TO PROVIDE TESTIMONY AND ANSWER
ANY QUESTIONS THE COMMITTEE MAY
HAVE IS NICOLE RICE, PRESIDENT
OF THE CALIFORNIA RENEWABLE
TRANSPORTATION ALLIANCE. GOOD
AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS,
NICOLE RICE. PRESIDENT OF THE
CALIFORNIA NATURAL I'M SORRY,
CALIFORNIA RENEWABLE
TRANSPORTATION ALLIANCE. AND WE
ARE HERE AS THE SPONSORS OF SB.
I'M SORRY, MAYBE 10 12. SORRY
ABOUT THAT. LET ME COLLECT
MYSELF HERE. THE ALLIANCE'S
ASSOCIATION OF FLEET
MANUFACTURERS, RENEWABLE FUEL
PROVIDERS. RENEWABLE FUEL
PRODUCERS AND UTILITIES THAT
PROMOTE THE DEVELOPMENT AND USE
OF RENEWABLE TRANSPORTATION
ALTERNATIVES. SO AS
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S QUIRK-SILVA
SAID, MAYBE 10 12 IS A SIMPLE
TRANSPARENCY BILL THAT ASKS CARB
TO PERFORM A GREENHOUSE GAS
LIFECYCLE ANALYSIS ON THE
VEHICLE TECHNOLOGY THAT IS
PROPOSED IN ANY FUTURE MOBILE
SOURCE REGULATION. NOW LIFE
CYCLE ANALYSIS. WE HEARD A
LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT IT IS, BUT
I'LL GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE
INFORMATION. IT'S A SCIENTIFIC
ACCOUNTING METHODOLOGY THAT
MEASURES THE ENVIRONMENTAL
IMPACT OF A PRODUCT OR SERVICE.
IT'S OFTEN CALLED A WELL, TOO
WILL ANALYSIS BECAUSE IT
CONSIDERS THE ENVIRONMENTAL
IMPACT OF THE VEHICLE FROM ITS
MANUFACTURER AND ALL THE WAY TO
THE DISPOSAL AND THE
DESTRUCTION. CARB ALREADY
CONDUCTS A SIMILAR ANALYSIS TO
DETERMINE THE CARBON INTENSITY
OF TRANSPORTATION FUEL UNDER THE
LOW CARBON FUEL STANDARD.
HOWEVER IT DOES NOT ROUTINELY
PROVIDES SUCH AN ANALYSIS
REGARDING THE ENVIRONMENTAL
IMPACTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE USE
OF THE VEHICLE. SO THIS BILL IS
NARROWLY TAILORED TO APPLY THIS
TYPE OF ANALYSIS ONLY TO THE
VEHICLE TECHNOLOGY THAT'S GOING
TO BE REQUIRED IN ANY FUTURE
MOBILE SOURCE REGULATION. THE
BILL IS SILENT ON HOW CARB CAN
USE THAT INFORMATION AND REACT
TO THAT INFORMATION, BUT AS CARB
DOES WITH ANY ENVIRONMENTAL
ASSESSMENT, IT HAS THE AUTHORITY
TO RESPOND TO THAT INFORMATION
AS IT DEEMS APPROPRIATE. YOUR
TIME IS UP. THANK YOU. UM SO
WITH ALL ALL OF THESE BENEFITS,
AND ACCORDING TO THE AMENDMENTS
THAT WERE ACCEPTED TODAY IN THE
BILL, WE ASKED FOR THE
COMMITTEE'S I VOTE ON MAYBE 10
12. THANK YOU. QUÊ ANYONE ELSE
WISHING TO TESTIFY? MADAM CHAIR
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE RYAN
KENNY WITH CLEAN ENERGY AND
SUPPORT. MADAM JERRY ENGINEER
EVAN EDGAR, ON BEHALF OF
CALIFORNIA COMPOST COALITION,
CLEAN FLEETS, COALITION AND
INDEPENDENT WASTE HAULERS. THANK
YOU. TO SUPPORT. MADAM CHAIR
MEMBERS, ANDREW ANTWI WOULD SHOW
YOU THE ANTWI SCHMELZER AND
LAYING HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF
THE WESTERN PROPANE GAS
ASSOCIATION AND SUPPORT. OKAY,
SAYING NO ONE ELSE IS THERE
ANYONE HERE TO TESTIFY IN
OPPOSITION? YOU'LL HAVE TWO
MINUTES.
GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIR AND MEMBERS
DANIEL BRAD ON BEHALF OF THE
UNION OF CONCERNED SCIENTISTS
AND RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION TO
MAYBE 10 12. YOU WANT TO THANK
THE COMMITTEE STAFF, THE CHAIR
AND THE AUTHORS OFFICE FOR
MEETING WITH US AND WORKING TO
IMPROVE THE BILL, BUT WE STILL
BELIEVE IT IS UNNECESSARY,
COSTLY AND COULD DELAY THE
STATE'S PROGRESS TOWARDS A ZERO
EMISSION FUTURE. THE BILL IS
UNNECESSARY BECAUSE CARB ALREADY
DOES A ROBUST ENVIRONMENTAL
ANALYSES FOR ALL THEIR
REGULATIONS. THEIR RECENT
ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS ON THE
PROPOSED ADVANCED CLEAN FLEETS.
RULE IS 176 PAGES LONG. IT
INCLUDES THE NOX PARTICULATE
MATTER AND GREENHOUSE GAS
EMISSION REDUCTIONS ASSOCIATED
WITH THE RULES, ADOPTION AND
EVEN IMPACTS ASSOCIATED WITH RAW
MINERAL EXTRACTION. LIFE CYCLE.
ANALYSES ARE COMPLICATED, TIME
CONSUMING AND, IN THE END,
PROVIDE A NUMBER THAT IS NOT
ENTIRELY USEFUL ON ITS OWN. THE
AMENDMENTS ALLOWING CARB TO
PERFORM A LIFE CYCLE. ANALYSIS
ON INCUMBENT TECHNOLOGIES ARE A
STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. AS
THEY ALLOW CARB TO PRESENT A
FULLER PICTURE. OF THE ZERO OF
THE BENEFITS OF ZERO EMISSION
TECHNOLOGIES, BUT ULTIMATELY
IT'S STILL PRESENTS AN
ADDITIONAL BURDEN ON CARVED TO
PROVE WHAT WE ALREADY KNOW. THAT
WE NEED TO REPLACE POLLUTING
TRANSPORTATION WITH ZERO
EMISSION TECHNOLOGIES AS SOON AS
POSSIBLE. THIS BILL WOULD
REQUIRE THE STATE TO SPEND
ADDITIONAL RESOURCES ON MORE
CARBS STAFF OR REQUIRE CARB TO
DIVERT EXISTING STAFF, THEREBY
DELL, ANGUILLA MAKINGS. LAST
WEEK, THE AMERICAN LUNG
ASSOCIATION RELEASED ITS STATE
OF THE AIR REPORT, WHICH SHOWED
THAT 98% OF CALIFORNIANS LIVE IN
COMMUNITIES WITH FAILING AIR
QUALITY GRADES, AND WE ARE HOME
TO EIGHT OF THE 10 MOST POLLUTED
CITIES IN AMERICA IN TERMS OF
PARTICULATE POLLUTION. CARBS
REGULATIONS OFTEN SEEK TO REMEDY
THIS BY REQUIRING THE ADOPTION
OF TECHNOLOGIES WITH ZERO
TAILPIPE EMISSIONS. THIS IS
WHERE THE SCIENCE HAS TOLD US
THAT WE NEED TO GO AND WE CANNOT
AFFORD TO DELAY REGULATIONS OR
MAKE THEM MORE EXPENSIVE.
THEREFORE WE RESPECTFULLY
REQUEST YOUR NO VOTE ON A B 10
12. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IS
THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE ROOM
WISHING TO TESTIFY AND
OPPOSITION FOR A B 10 12? OKAY
SEEING NONE WILL GO TO THE PHONE
LINES FOR TESTIMONY FOR OR
AGAINST A B 10 12 OPERATOR. CAN
YOU PLEASE OPEN THE PHONE LINES?
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR FOR THOSE
. FOR THOSE WHO WISH TO SPEAK IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO A B 10
12, PLEASE PRESS ONE THAN ZERO
AT THIS TIME, PRESS ONE THAN.
ZERO AND WE HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE
HAVE SIGNALED THAT THEY WISH TO
SPEAK. JUST A MOMENT, PLEASE.
WHEN YOU GO TO LINE 43. YOUR
LINE IS OPEN. EVANDER QUIT.
PHILIP BENDER CLAY ON BEHALF OF
THE LOS ANGELES COUNTY
SANITATION DISTRICTS AND SUPPORT
LINE 63. WILL BREAKER ON BEHALF
OF 3 50 SACRAMENTO IN
OPPOSITION. THERE IS NO ONE ELSE
TO SIGNAL THAT THEY WISH TO
SPEAK. THANK YOU. WE'LL BRING IT
BACK TO THE COMMITTEE. IS THERE
ANYBODY IN TO ASK QUESTIONS OR
SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE BILL. TO
MOVE THE BILL. OKAY. WE HAVE A
MOTION IN A SECOND. UM I, UM
HOPE THAT THE CONVERSATION CAN
CONTINUE AS YOU MOVE FORWARD. I
ACTUALLY SHARE A LOT OF THE
CONCERNS OF THE OPPOSITION IN
REGARDS TO THE COST OF TWO CARB
OF EXECUTING THIS BILL, AND IN
THE END WHAT? WHAT MEANINGFUL
INFORMATION THAT WE DON'T
ALREADY KNOW WILL BE GLEAMED.
IT'S VERY I APPRECIATE YOUR
TAKING THE AMENDMENTS. IT'S VERY
IMPORTANT THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO
DO IN LIFESTYLE ANALYSIS, LIFE
CYCLE ANALYSIS OF ANY PARTICULAR
TECHNOLOGY THAT WE HAVE
SOMETHING TO JUDGE IT AGAINST.
SO THAT WE ARE COMPARING APPLES
TO APPLES AND KNOW WHAT THE
OTHER TECHNOLOGIES IMPACTS ARE.
BUT UH, THAT'S GOING TO BE
EXPENSIVE. SO WHETHER IT'S WORTH
DOING IT IN THE END. I JUST I'M
NOT, YOU KNOW, 100% CONVINCED,
BUT I AM CERTAINLY WILLING TO
ALLOW THE BILL TO PASS FORWARD
TODAY SO THAT YOU CAN CONTINUE
WORKING ON AND I HOPE THAT YOU
CAN ADDRESS THE OPPOSITION'S
CONCERNS. WE HAVE A MOTION IN A
SECOND AND I WILL BE SUPPORTING
THE BILL. TODAY WE HAVE A ROLL
CALL. WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE?
PLEASE JUST RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
MY VOTE. MAYBE 10 12 IS DO PASS
AS AMENDED AND RE REFERRED TO
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS.
FRIEDMAN. HI, FRIEDMAN. I PHªN.
FUNK I BERMAN CARILLO VÚI DAVIES
DAVIES, I GIBSON HIPS AND I
HEART. HEART NOT VOTING. JACKSON
JACKSON I CHOLERA. LOWENTHAL.
LOWENTHAL, NOT VOTING. WHEN I
SANCHEZ SANCHEZ, I WALLACE. FORD
WICKS. OKAY THE BILL HAS EIGHT
VOTES. THE BILL IS OUT. WE'LL
LEAVE THE ROLE OPEN FOR ABSENT
MEMBERS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
MEMBERS. ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S FLORA.
LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE THE CHAIRS
RICO AND THE VICE CHAIR. ALSO
VOTING I SO USE YOUR TIME.
WISELY. I WILL INDEED. THANK
YOU. CHAIR COMMITTEE AND YOUR
STAFF ARE WORKING WITH US ON
THIS BILL. I AM PROUD TO PRESENT
A B 14 47. UM, WHICH WILL
REQUIRE A TWO TIER SYSTEM.
SETTING UP APPROPRIATE
REQUIREMENTS AND LIMITATIONS FOR
EACH SYSTEM ACCORDINGLY, WHICH
WILL ALSO ENSURE SAFETY OF TWO
TIER SYSTEM WILL FACILITATE THE
USE OF ELECTRIC SCOOTERS AND
THEREFORE PROVIDE A STABLE, SAFE
, ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY MODE
OF TRANSPORTATION WITH ME TO
TESTIFY AS JOHN DOHERTY AND NOW
IT'S A PINELLI AND WE'LL JUST
USE OUR TIME WISELY. THAT'S
RIGHT. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR
MEMBERS JUST HERE TO SAY THANK
YOU TO YOU AND YOUR STAFF. AND
THE AUTHOR, UM AND I'M HERE TO
ANSWER QUESTIONS. I'LL HAND IT
OVER TO OUR ONE WITNESS REALLY
DID NOT MEAN TO RUSH YOU. I WAS
JUST USING THESE NOW I'M FEELING
A LITTLE BIT GUILTY, SO I USED
MY ALLOTMENT AWARDS WERE GOOD.
MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY
NAME IS ALEX PINELLI. I'M A
MEMBER OF THE EXECUTIVE TEAM OF
A COMPANY CALLED FAT PH. 80
WHERE THE MANUFACTURER OF THE U
. S. IS MOST POPULAR. TWO WHEELS
SEATED. SINGLE WRITER ELECTRIC
VEHICLE COMMONLY REFERRED TO AS
SCOOTERS. I'M HERE TO SUPPORT A
B 14 47, WHICH INCREASES THE
SPEED LIMIT FOR ELECTRIC
SCOOTERS WITH SEATS FROM 15 MPH
TO 20 MPH PUTTING EAST SCOOTERS
ON PARITY WITH CLASS TWO E BIKES
AND TREATING SCOOTERS
IDENTICALLY TO BIKES UNDER THE
THREE FT FOR SAFETY ACT.
ADDITIONALLY MAYBE 14 47 WILL
PUT CALIFORNIA AH ON PAR WITH
THE VAST MAJORITY OF STATES THAT
PERMIT ELECTRIC SCOOTERS TO GO
19 MPH OR FASTER. THE VAST
MAJORITY DO SO. THIS PARODY IS
ALSO IMPORTANT BECAUSE E BIKES
ARE NOT PARTICULARLY USEFUL FOR
CALIFORNIANS WHO CANNOT PEDAL
DUE TO PHYSICAL DISABILITIES.
ACCORDING TO THE CDC, 13.7% OF
THE U. S ADULT POPULATION,
APPROXIMATELY 35 MILLION
AMERICANS SUFFER FROM WHAT ARE
KNOWN AS MOBILITY OR AMBULATORY
DISABILITIES. THIS NUMBER JUMPS
UP TO 18.1% FOR AMERICANS
BETWEEN 45 64 26.9% FOR
AMERICANS AGE 65 OR OVER WHEN
ADJUSTED FOR INCOME, THE NUMBERS
ARE EVEN MORE STAGGERING PEOPLE
OVER 45 YEARS OLD AND AT OR
BELOW THE FEDERAL POVERTY LEVEL
OVER 40% OF THOSE HAVE AN
AMBULATORY DISABILITY. WELL OVER
35% OF OUR CUSTOMERS ARE OVER
THE AGE OF 50. MANY OF THEM ARE
SPECIFICALLY TOLD US THAT THEY
PURCHASE OUR PRODUCT BECAUSE
THEY HAVE HIP OR KNEE ISSUES
THAT INHIBIT PEDDLING.
ADDITIONALLY WE HAVE SEVERAL
YOUNGER FAT OWNERS WHO ARE
DISABLED WAR VETERANS. THEY ALSO
CHOSE OUR PRODUCT BECAUSE THEY
SUFFER PHYSICAL INJURIES THAT
PRECLUDED THEM FROM PADDLING.
OUR GOAL IS TO PROVIDE A FAIR
AND EQUITABLE ALTERNATIVE TO E
BIKES THAT ALSO OFFERS EFFICIENT
ZERO EMISSION TRANSPORTATION
OPTIONS. WITH THIS IN MIND, I
ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF A B 14
47, AND WE'LL BE HAPPY TO FIELD
ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE
AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. IS THERE ANYBODY
ELSE IN THE ROOM WISHING TO
VOICE THEIR SUPPORT FOR THE
BILL? OKAY SEEING NONE. IS THERE
ANYBODY HERE TO TESTIFY IN
OPPOSITION? ANYONE AT ALL
ANYBODY WANT TO COME UP TO THE
MIC TO TESTIFY IN OPPOSITION.
OKAY UM, WITH THAT WILL OPEN UP
THE PHONE LINES. OPERATOR. IF
YOU CAN PLEASE OPEN UP THE
PHONE. FOR A B 14 47. THANK YOU.
FOR THOSE WHO WISH TO SPEAK IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO THIS
BILL, PLEASE PRESS ONE THAN
ZERO. MADAM SHARE. IT APPEARS
THERE IS NO ONE WHO WISHES TO
SPEAK. OKAY, WE'LL GO BACK TO
THE COMMITTEE. ANY COMMENTS FROM
ANYBODY. OKAY? THERE IS A MOTION
AND A SECOND. I WANT TO THANK
YOU FOR WORKING WITH THE
COMMITTEE. UM TO MAKE THE
DEFINITION OF MOTORIZED SCOOTER
CONSISTENT WITH THE SOCIETY OF
AUTOMOTIVE ENGINEERS DEFINITION.
UM YOU KNOW, AS WE HAVE MORE AND
MORE DIFFERENT MICRO MOBILITY
DEVICES, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE
UNDERSTAND THE ROLE OF EACH OF
THEM AND HOW THEY'RE DEFINED
UNDER THE LAW. AND IT'S BEEN
UNCLEAR AND THIS BILL WILL HELP
CLARIFY THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A
MOTORIZED SCOOTER AND BICYCLE.
AND I ALSO DO APPRECIATE THAT
THE BILL. THE BILL SUPPORTS
VULNERABLE ROAD USERS BY
REQUIRING VEHICLES TO CHANGE
LANES OR PROVIDE THREE FT OF
DISTANCE FROM MOTORIZED SCOOTERS
AND FOR BUILDING ON MY WORK ON A
B FROM A B 19. OH, NINE FROM
LAST YEAR TO ALSO PROTECT
SCOOTER WRITERS. UM I AM
SUPPORTING THE BILL. TODAY I
BELIEVE THAT THE MORE MOBILITY
OPTIONS WE GIVE PEOPLE THE
BETTER AND I APPRECIATE YOUR
WORK TO MAKE THESE DEVICES
AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE THAT CAN'T
USE A TRADITIONAL OR AN E BIKE.
SO THANK YOU AND I'LL BE
SUPPORTING THE BILL. WE HAVE A
MOTION IN A SECOND, BUT WOULD
YOU LIKE TO CLOSE RESPECTFULLY
ASK FOR MY VOTE. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. AND WE HAVE A ROLL CALL,
PLEASE. MAYBE 14 47 IS DO PASS
AND RE REFER TO COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. FRIEDMAN
FRIEDMAN, I SANG FOLLOWING I
BERMAN. CARILLO CARILLO. AYE
DAVIES DAVIES, I GIBSON GIBSON I
HEART PART I JACKSON JACKSON, I
CHOLERA. LOWENTHAL LOWENTHAL. I
WIN WHEN I SANCHEZ. SANCHEZ, I
WALLACE. FORD WICKS. AND WE HAVE
10 VOTES. THE BILL IS OUT. WE'LL
LEAVE THE ROLE OPEN. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S MCCARTY. YOU'RE
HERE FOR A B 15. OH, FOUR AND
YOU CAN PROCEED WHENEVER YOU'RE
READY. AND IF THERE ARE, IF
THERE'S OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL
REGISTERED, YOU'RE WELCOME TO
COME UP TO THE TABLE AS WELL.
OKAY THANK YOU. SO WE HAVE ONE
BILL ON CONSENT. THIS IS 15 OH,
FOUR. CORRECT, MADAM CHAIR.
THANK YOU. THIS BILL IS IN
RELAYED RELATIONSHIP TO OUR ZERO
EMISSION VEHICLES AND TO ACHIEVE
THIS GOAL OF 100% CLEAN CARS IN
THE NEXT DECADE. WE REALLY NEED
TO STEP IT UP WITH
INFRASTRUCTURE, SPECIFICALLY
CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE. WE'VE
DONE A LOT OF WORK ON, UM,
INFRASTRUCTURE OFFSITE. NOW
WE'RE REALLY FOCUSING ON WHAT WE
CAN DO AT CURBSIDE. SO THIS BILL
ATTEMPTS TO ADDRESS THIS AND
MAKE SURE THERE'S MORE CHARGING
OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE ACROSS
CALIFORNIA AND THEIR ELECTRIC
VEHICLES. THIS IS A LOCAL
GOVERNMENT ISSUE AND A
TRANSPORTATION ISSUE. IT'S A
HYBRID. ESSENTIALLY THIS BILL
WOULD ACCELERATE CALIFORNIANS
ABILITY TO MEET OUR AIR QUALITY
AND CLIMATE. CHALLENGES AND ARE
PUSHED TOWARDS 100% CLEAN CARS
AND MAKING SURE WE HAVE THE
CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDED
TO GET THERE. SPECIFICALLY THIS
ASK COUNTIES AND CITIES TO
INCLUDE CURBSIDE CHARGING AND
THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE. SO IF YOU
IF YOU IMAGINE THE STREET POLES
ACROSS OUR CITIES MANY TIMES
THEY ALREADY HAVE ELECTRICITY.
THEY'RE PERFECT OPPORTUNITY FOR
PUBLIC ACCESS TO FOCUS ON THAT
INFRASTRUCTURE AND ANY AND
INCLUDE INCLUDE CHARGING
OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE PUBLIC. SO
THIS WOULD TASK R CALIFORNIA
ENERGY ENERGY COMMISSION TO DO
JUST THAT TO SPEED UP AND
EXPEDITE PERMITTING THROUGHOUT
OUR CALIFORNIA CITIES. WE
CERTAINLY NEED THIS. IF WE'RE
GOING TO BE A LEADER IN THIS
FIELD, WE HAVE CURRENTLY STEPPED
UP AND LIKE I MENTIONED EARLIER
AND OFFSITE CHARGING AND
INFRASTRUCTURE AND HAVE OUR
CITIES AND COUNTIES REALLY LED
THE WAY ON THIS, AND THIS IS THE
KIND OF THE NEXT FRONTIER WITH
CURBSIDE WITH ME TODAY BEFORE I
WILL NOTE, UM, BEFORE WE GET TO
THERE, WE DON'T HAVE, UM,
COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS, BUT WE DID
AMEND IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT
COMMITTEE TO NOT REMOVE THE
OPPOSITION, BUT I THINK LOWER
THE TELLING OF THEIR OPPOSITION
AND WE'RE CONTINUING TO WORK
WITH THEM AS WE GO ALONG. WITH
ME TODAY IS REPRESENTATIVE WITH
FLOW RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR
VOTE. MM CHAIR AND MEMBERS DAN
CHAW HERE FOR FLOW E V CHARGING
FLOW IS THE LEADING NORTH
AMERICAN TV CHARGING NETWORK
OPERATOR. I'M HERE TO TESTIFY ON
THE CURBSIDE CHARGING PIECE
PROVISIONS OF THIS BILL. SUPER
APPRECIATIVE FOR SOMEONE
MCCARTHY FOR AUTHORING THIS BILL
, KRYPTONITE CHARGING IS A HUGE
, UNTAPPED CHARGING RESOURCE,
AND THAT CONFERS MANY BENEFITS
NUMBER ONE. THEY CAN BE CITED
THAT ADJACENT TO MULTI FAMILY
HOUSING BASED ON NEED AND INCOME
. IN FACT, THE CITY OF L A DID
JUST THIS, RESULTING IN OVER 80%
OF ITS RESIDENTS LIVING WITHIN A
FEW MINUTES. HAVE A CURBSIDE
CHARGER. SACRAMENTO OAKLAND HAS
BEEN HAVE BEEN LEADERS ON THIS
IN THIS SPACE AS WELL. NUMBER
TWO. THEY CAN LEAD TO LOWER
DEVELOPMENT COSTS BY ATTACHING
AS YOU JUST SAW CRIBS I CHARGERS
TO UTILITY AND LIGHT POLES. NO
TRENCHING. SIGNIFICANT CIVIL
ENGINEERING IS INVOLVED. WE
SHOULD REALLY SEE CURBSIDE
CHARGERS ON EVERY POSSIBLE
UTILITY LIGHT AND PULL NUMBER
THREE VISIBILITY, EVEN THE
PERCEPTION OF GREATER
AVAILABILITY OF CHARGERS IS KEY
TO GREATER EVEY ADOPTION AND IN
OTHER CITIES, CRYPTID CHARGERS
HAVE ATTRACTED MORE CUSTOMERS TO
ADJACENT BUSINESSES. AS YOU
ANALYSIS STATES ABOUT 50% OF
CALIFORNIANS LIVE IN MULTI
FAMILY HOUSING, YET ONLY ABOUT A
THIRD OF THEM CAN ACCESS HOME
CHARGING. AND THOSE WITH THE
LEAST ACCESS. UM ARE LOW INCOME
. THIS BILL IS SQUARELY INTENDED
TO TACKLE THIS VERY PROBLEM IN A
COST EFFICIENT AND SMART WAY.
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR VOTE.
THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE
IN THE ROOM WISHING TO TESTIFY
IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL? IS THERE
ANYBODY IN THE ROOM WISHING TO
TESTIFY AND OPPOSITION? GOOD
AFTER NOON, MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS DAMON KANSEN WITH LEGAL
CALIFORNIA CITIES AGAIN
RESPECTFULLY OPPOSED UNLESS
AMENDED. WE'RE WORKING WITH THE
AUTHOR AND APPRECIATE THE MOST
RECENT ITERATION OF THE BILL AND
LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING AND
HAVING CONTINUED CONVERSATIONS
AROUND THIS BILL, IS IT MOVES
FORWARD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
OKAY SEEING NOBODY. NO ONE ELSE
IN THE ROOM WISHING TO TESTIFY.
OPERATOR CAN YOU PLEASE OPEN THE
PHONE LINES FOR ANY TESTIMONY OR
AGAINST A B? 15? OH, FOUR. WISH
TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO A B 15
OH, FOUR, PLEASE PRESS ONE THAN
ZERO, PRESS ONE TIME CLARIFY. WE
DO BLENDED TESTIMONY ONLY SO ITS
OPPOSITION OR SUPPORT PARDON ME
FOR THOSE WHO WISH TO SPEAK IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO THIS
BILL, PLEASE PRESS ONE THAN
ZERO. AND MADAM CHAIR. NO ONE
HAS SIGNALED THAT THEY WISH TO
SPEAK. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE
GO BACK TO THE COMMITTEE. NOW,
ANYBODY HAVE ANY THING TO SAY.
YES, THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO
MANY MEMBER FOR CARRYING THIS
BIKE. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE RECENT
AMENDMENTS AND I COME FROM LOCAL
GOVERNMENT AND AS EU AND SO I
JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU
CONTINUE TO WORK WITH HIM. UM SO
THAT WE CAN COME TO A CONSENSUS
ON THIS. YES I'M JUST SCANNING
THE ROOM REAL QUICK. I THINK
ABOUT 80% OF US HERE CAME FROM
FROM LOCAL GOVERNMENT. AND, UM
YOU KNOW, THERE ARE 1000 CITIES
AND COUNTIES ACROSS CALIFORNIA,
AND MOST OF THEM HAVE DONE A
GOOD JOB AND PUSHING
INFRASTRUCTURE FROM E. V. AND
SOME OF THEM HAVE BEEN A LITTLE
SLOW AND THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT
WE NEED TO ADDRESS AS A STATE SO
HAVING SOME STATEWIDE LEADERSHIP
TO NUDGE THEM ALONG. I THINK HIS
KIND OF THE ROUTE WE'RE LOOKING
AT, BUT WE CERTAINLY WILL WORK
WITH THEM LIKE WE DID ON THE
PRIOR BILL AND HOPEFULLY COME UP
WITH A NEUTRAL POSITION AT THE
END OF THE DAY. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. DID WE HAVE A MOTION? OH
YES, OF COURSE. REMEMBER DAVY'S
CHAIR? JUST JUST A QUICK
QUESTION. YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT
THIS PHOTO HERE. ONE OF MY
CONCERNS WOULD BE OBVIOUSLY WHEN
HIS CHARGING A CAR IT CAN TAKE
SOME TIME IS IF THERE'S
BUSINESSES UP HERE, AND YOU'VE
GOT A CAR SITTING THERE FOR SO
LONG, IT'S NOT ALLOWING, YOU
KNOW OTHERS TO COME AND UTILIZE
THE BUSINESSES THAT TAKING UP I
JUST WANT TO KNOW. YOU KNOW, THE
CONCERN OF MAYBE STEP TAKING UP
SPACE WHERE WE COULD COME THAT
WOULD WANT TO SHOP THERE. NOW.
IT'S LIKE WHAT'S ALWAYS FILLED
YEAH. MAYBE I CAN ASK OUR
WITNESS WHO THEY'VE DONE THIS IN
TWO PILOTS SO FAR THROUGHOUT
CALIFORNIA ACROSS THE NATION AS
FAR AS HOW WE'VE DEALT WITH THAT
ISSUE. ABSOLUTELY AND CHARGE AND
FOR FLUID BE CHARGING, AND IT'S
A VERY GOOD QUESTION, AND THE
BILL ACTUALLY HAS PROVISIONS
REQUIRING LOCAL JURISDICTIONS TO
EXPLORE RESTRICTIONS IN THE
AMOUNT OF TIME AT THE AMOUNT OF
TIME YOU CAN CHARGE YOUR
VEHICLE, IN PART FOR SOME OF THE
REASONS YOU IDENTIFIED, SO WE
ARE VERY WELL AWARE OF THAT, AND
I THINK THAT BILL ADDRESSES THAT
CONCERN. SO IN THAT BILL, IT
WOULD ALLOW THE LOCALS TO DECIDE
HOW MUCH TIME THEY CAN ACTUALLY
MAKE THAT THEMSELVES. THAT'S
RIGHT. THANK YOU. JUST MAKE A
COMMENT ON WHEN YOU SAY THAT
SOME LOCAL MUSICIANS ARE NOT
VERY RESPONSIVE OR FIND CREATIVE
WAYS NOT TO COMPLY. OR PROVIDE
MORE CHARGING STATIONS. I THINK
THAT THIS WILL ACTUALLY HELP
DOING THAT. BECAUSE IN MY
EXPERIENCE, THERE'S BEEN SOME
LOCAL JURISDICTIONS THAT
RESISTING TO PROVIDE THIS
INFRASTRUCTURE. THAT MAY BE ONE
OF THE REASONS WHY WE DON'T HAVE
ENOUGH CHARGING STATIONS. I SAY
THAT BECAUSE THERE'S OTHER SOME
CERTAIN PARTS OF CITIES WHERE
THERE'S MORE INFRASTRUCTURE
COMPARED TO OTHER PARTS OF THE
CITY. AND UM, I BELIEVE THAT
THIS WILL ACTUALLY MOTIVATE
THOSE SERIES THAT DON'T WANT TO
COMPLY. SO THANK YOU FOR
BRINGING THIS AFTERWARDS. THANK
YOU. OKAY I'M NOT SEEING ANYBODY
ELSE WE HAD UP. DO WE HAVE A
MOTION? WE HAVE A MOTION AND A
SECOND. WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE?
THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THE
CONVERSATION AND IF WE ARE GOING
TO GET TO THE FUTURE THAT WE
WANT TO CLEAN OUR AIR AND TO
TACKLE CLIMATE CHANGE, WE NEED
TO HAVE 100% CLEAN CARS AND
MOBILE SOURCES IS THAT BUT IF
UNLESS WE STEP IT UP WITH OUR
CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE, WE'RE
GOING TO BE CHALLENGED, AND THAT
MEANS ON SITE AND YOUR RESIDENTS
. THAT MEANS THAT THE WORKPLACE
AND THAT MEANS ON COMMERCIAL
QUARTERS LIKE THIS, AND THIS
HELPS US GET TO THIS PLACE. UH
AND WITH THAT, RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR YOUR VOTE. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. OKAY. CAN WE HAVE A ROLL
CALL? MAYBE 15. OH, FOUR IS DO
PASS AND RE REFERRED TO
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS.
FRIEDMAN FRIEDMAN, I FONG. PHªN
KNOW BERMAN BERMAN. I CARILLO
VÚI DAVIES. BABIES KNOW GIBSON.
GIBSON I HEART. PART I JACKSON
JACKSON, I CHOLERA. LOWENTHAL
LOWENTHAL. I WIN. WHEN I.
SANCHEZ SANCHEZ KNOW WALLACE
WARD WICKS. NINE. WE HAVE NINE
VOTES. THE BILL IS OUT. WE'LL
LEAVE THE ROLE OPEN. THANK YOU.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S BONTA. AND IF
THERE'S ANY OPPOSITION TO THE
BILL, YOU'RE ALSO WELCOME TO
COME UP TO THE DIOCESE OF THIS
POINT.
YOU CAN PROCEED WHENEVER YOU'RE
READY. CAN YOU HIT THE
MICROPHONE, PLEASE? THANK YOU,
MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS. I WOULD
LIKE TO EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION
TO COMMITTEE STAFF FOR THEIR
TIME AND DEDICATION TO THIS BILL
AND ISSUE AS THE
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S REPRESENTING
THE PEOPLE OF OAKLAND, ALAMEDA
AND EMERYVILLE. IT IS AN HONOR
TO PRESENT A B 15 25 IN
CALIFORNIA. WE OFTEN SAY ACCESS
TO SAFE, RELIABLE AND AFFORDABLE
TRANSPORTATION IS A PRIORITY. IN
PRACTICE. IT'S NOT NECESSARILY
CLEAR, PARTICULARLY FOR HIGH
NEED LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES OF
COLOR THAT WE ARE SYSTEMIC
SYSTEMATICALLY, WHO HAVE BEEN
SYSTEMATICALLY DENIED
TRANSPORTATION INVESTMENTS
SUFFER FROM LONGER, LESS
RELIABLE COMMUTES, UNSAFE
INFRASTRUCTURE AND BEAR THE
BURDEN OF TRANSPORTATION RELATED
AIR POLLUTION. IN WEST IN
DOWNTOWN OAKLAND IN MY DISTRICT
ADJACENT TO HEAVY INDUSTRY AND
MAJOR HIGHWAYS MORE THAN 70% OF
THE POPULATION ARE PEOPLE OF
COLOR AND AIR POLLUTION HAS A
HIGH IMPACT ON CHILDHOOD ASTHMA
, WITH ONE IN TWO NEW CHILDHOOD
ASTHMA CASES DUE TO TRAFFIC
RELATED AIR POLLUTION. IN
CONTRAST IN THE OAKLAND HILLS,
WHERE MORE THAN 70% OF THE
POPULATION IS WHITE, ONLY ONE IN
EVERY FIVE CASES OF CHILDHOOD
ASTHMA. IS FROM AIR POLLUTION.
THERE ARE INEVITABLE OUTCOMES OF
SYSTEMATICALLY DENIED HIGH IN
HIGH NEED AND LOW INCOME
COMMUNITIES OF COLOR, RELIABLE
AND AFFORDABLE TRANSPORTATION
AND COMMUNITY INVESTMENT. MAYBE
15 25 AIMS TO ADDRESS THE
DECADES LONG LEGACY OF
TRANSPORTATION INJUSTICE BY
CREATING A CRITERIA AND
EVALUATION PROCESS JOINTLY
MANAGED BY THE CALIFORNIA
TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE.
COMMISSION. THE CALIFORNIA STATE
TRANSPORTATION AGENCY AND
CALTRANS TO BEST DIRECT
INCREASED INVESTMENTS TO
PRIORITY POPULATIONS. MAYBE 15
25 BUILDS UPON GOVERNOR NEWSOM'S
EXECUTIVE ORDER REQUIRING STATE
AGENCIES TO ANALYZE THEIR
PRACTICES AND TO RESPOND TO
DISPARITIES. FURTHERMORE MAYBE
15 25 ADVANCES PRESIDENT BIDEN'S
JUSTICE 40 INITIATIVE, WHICH
ALREADY DIRECTS 40% OF CERTAIN
FEDERAL INVESTMENTS TO
DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES.
CALIFORNIA SPENDS TENS OF
BILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON
TRANSPORTATION EVERY YEAR THAT
THERE IS NO ACCOUNTING FOR THE
AMOUNT OF STATE AND FEDERAL
DOLLARS AND HOW THEY ARE BEING
INVESTED SPECIFICALLY IN SUPPORT
OF PRIORITY POPULATIONS. OR OF
THE PROJECTS, PROVIDE PUBLIC
BENEFITS AND AVOID HARM. MAYBE
15 25 CREATES THE DATA FOR
FUTURE POLICIES, ALLOWING US
POLICYMAKERS BETTER TO SERVE OUR
MOST VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES
WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF MAJOR
INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENTS.
TRACKING HOW HOW TRANSPORTATION
PROJECTS BENEFIT AND IMPACT
COMMUNITIES IS NOT JUST A
RESPONSIBLE USE OF PUBLIC
DOLLARS. IT HELPS INCENTIVIZE
MORE SUITABLE AND SUSTAINABLE
TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS,
PROVIDING BENEFITS SUCH AS
CLEANER AIR, SAFER STREETS,
CREATING CORRIDORS TO JOBS AND
MEETING COMMUNITY NEEDS. MAYBE
15 25 IS SUPPORTED BY MORE THAN
30 ORGANIZATIONS ACROSS THE
STATE, SUCH AS THE ASIAN PACIFIC
ENVIRONMENTAL NETWORK POLICY
LINK, MOVE L, A AND CALIFORNIA
ENVIRONMENTAL VOTERS. LASTLY MY
OFFICE AND SPONSORS HAVE WORKED
WITH OVER 50 DIVERSE
STAKEHOLDERS TO CREATE AND CRAFT
THIS LEGISLATION WITH A FOCUS ON
DELIVERING CRITICAL BENEFITS TO
LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES. AND
COMMUNITIES OF COLOR. WE RECEIVE
A NOTICE WE RECEIVED A NOTICE OF
OPPOSITION LATE LAST WEEK AND WE
HAVE SINCE MET WITH AND ARE
COMMITTED TO WORKING TO ADDRESS
THEIR CONCERNS. I WANT TO
EMPHASIZE TO THE COMMITTEE CHAIR
AND MEMBERS THAT THIS BILL IS A
WORK IN PROGRESS, AND WE ARE
COMMITTED TO WORKING WITH
STAKEHOLDERS TO BUILD A MORE
EQUITABLE TRANSPORTATION FUTURE.
WITH ME TO TESTIFY TODAY AND
SUPPORT OUR HANA KRIEGER WITH
THE GREENLINING INSTITUTE AND
ZACH QUALITY WITH AN NATURAL
RESOURCE DEFENSE COUNCIL. THANK
YOU, MADAM CHAIR AND COLLEAGUES
. I'M HANNAH KRIEGER, THE SENIOR
PROGRAM MANAGER OF CLIMATE
EQUITY AT THE GREENLINING
INSTITUTE. GREENLINING WORKS
TOWARDS THE FUTURE TO WHERE
COMMUNITIES OF COLOR CAN BUILD
WEALTH LIVE IN HEALTHY PLACES
FOR ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY. IT
WILL BE READY TO MEET THE
CHALLENGES POSED BY CLIMATE
CHANGE. ACCESS TO TRANSPORTATION
IS KEY FOR PEOPLE'S ABILITY TO
OBTAIN ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES
AND TO HAVE A BETTER QUALITY OF
LIFE. HOWEVER MILLIONS OF
CALIFORNIANS DO NOT HAVE ACCESS
TO SAFE, RELIABLE TRANSPORTATION
OPTIONS, WHICH HARMS THEIR
ABILITY TO ACCESS EDUCATION,
WORK AND HEALTHCARE. CALIFORNIA
DOES HAVE A KEY STRATEGY PROVEN
STRATEGY TO CLOSE THESE
DISPARITIES BECAUSE FOR 10 YEARS
OUR STATE HAS BEEN IMPLEMENTING
THE CALIFORNIA CLIMATE
INVESTMENTS THAT DIRECTS A
MINIMUM OF 35% OF CLIMATE FUNDS
TO PRIORITY POPULATIONS. A GOAL
AT THE STATE HAS NOW WELL
SURPASSED WITH 72% OF CUMULATIVE
INVESTMENTS HAVING BEEN DIRECTED
TO PRIORITY POPULATIONS. MAYBE
15 25 AIMS TO BUILD UPON THIS
SUCCESSFUL PRESIDENT WITHIN A
MORE TARGETED TRANSPORTATION
CONTEXT. ESTÁ, CALTRANS AND CTC
HAVE SUCCESSFULLY BEEN UTILIZING
THE CALIFORNIA CLIMATE
INVESTMENT EVALUATION CRITERIA
TO TARGET THREE OF THEIR
PROGRAMS TO PRIORITY
POPULATIONS. THIS DEMONSTRATES
THEY ALREADY HAVE THE
FAMILIARITY, THE SKILL SETS AND
THE TOOLS TO TARGET FUNDS WHERE
THEY ARE NEEDED. MOST. THE
PROBLEM IS THAT THIS MODEL OF
TARGETED INVESTMENTS IS ONLY
REQUIRED WITHIN A VERY SMALL
FRACTION OF THE OVERALL BILLIONS
OF DOLLARS OF BUDGETS. SETTING
THE 60% THRESHOLD FOR FUTURE
PROJECTS WOULD ALIGN CALISTA CTC
AND CALTRANS WITH OTHER STATE
AGENCIES LIKE THE C, E C CPUC
AND CARB WHO HAVE EITHER
CODIFIED OR SET GOALS FOR 50 TO
70% OF FUNDING PARTS TO PRIORITY
POPULATIONS. AND AGAIN GIVEN THE
STATE AND FEDERAL EXECUTIVE
ORDERS TO MORE FAIRLY INVEST
FUNDS AND TO CLOSE DISPARITIES.
CALISTA CTC AND CALTRANS ARE
CURRENTLY NOT IN COMPLIANCE. TO
HELP THEM COMPLY. THIS BILL
BUILDS UPON A LONGSTANDING
APPROACH TO INVESTING IN
PRIORITY POPULATIONS. GET IT
SETS OUT A FLEXIBLE PROCESS FOR
THE AGENCIES TO WORK WITH
STAKEHOLDERS TO DEFINE PRIORITY
POPULATIONS, THE EVALUATION
CRITERIA PROCESS AND TO COLLECT
THE DATA. THANK YOU FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON THIS
ISSUE, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO
WORKING WITH ALL STAKEHOLDERS TO
FURTHER REFINE THIS BILL AS IT
IS STILL TAKING SHAPE. GOOD
AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR AND
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. I'M ZACH
CARDI AT NRDC, THE NATURAL
RESOURCES DEFENSE COUNCIL. RIGHT
THERE AS A SENIOR TRANSPORTATION
ADVOCATE. COORDINATING OUR
MOBILITY CHOICES. ADVOCACY
ACROSS THE WESTERN U. S. I'M
HERE TO SUPPORT MAYBE 15 25,
WHICH REFLECTS THE NEXT CRITICAL
STEP THE STATE MUST TAKE TO
ADVANCE OUR CLEAN AIR CLIMATE
CHANGE AND EQUITY GOALS IN THE
CONTEXT OF THE STATE'S
TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE
INVESTMENTS. CALIFORNIA IS
INVESTING AT HISTORIC LEVELS IN
TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE,
YET WITH NO ASSURANCE OR
ACCOUNTABILITY TO ENSURE THAT
THESE INVESTMENTS WILL ADVANCE
THE STATE'S EQUITY AGENDA.
ADDING TRANSPARENT, CONSISTENT
PROGRAM CRITERIA LIKE THOSE
PROPOSED IN THIS BILL IS
CRITICAL TO ENSURING THAT MOVING
FORWARD THE STATE'S
TRANSPORTATION INVESTMENTS DO
RIGHT BY OUR MOST IMPACTED
COMMUNITIES IN PARTICULAR. THOSE
WHO HAVE BORN DISPROPORTIONATE
HARM FROM THE STATES. PREVIOUS
TRANSPORTATION INVESTMENTS. AIR
POLLUTION BURDENS ACROSS THE
STATE DISPROPORTIONATELY FALL ON
DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES. AND
THE TRANSPORTATION IN CALIFORNIA
IS THE LARGEST SOURCE OF CLIMATE
POLLUTION AND AN ENORMOUS
CONTRIBUTOR OF HAZARDOUS AIR
POLLUTANTS THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
AS YOU'VE HEARD IN PREVIOUS
TESTIMONY TODAY. SUITABLE
INVESTMENTS ARE CLEAN AIR AND
CLIMATE INVESTMENTS IN THE
TRANSPORTATION SECTOR, NO
DISADVANTAGED OR MOST IMPACTED
COMMUNITY WOULD BENEFIT. FROM
INVESTMENTS THAT POLLUTE THEIR
AIR AND POISON THEIR NEIGHBORS.
WE KNOW THERE'S MORE WORK TO BE
DONE ON THIS BILL WITH A VARIETY
OF KEY STAKEHOLDERS. WE LOOK
FORWARD TO CONTINUE DISCUSSIONS
ABOUT HOW TO MAKE A B 15 25 WORK
IN CALIFORNIA. THANK YOU FOR
YOUR ATTENTION, AND WE ASK FOR
YOUR SUPPORT OF VOTE TODAY TO
MOVE THIS CRITICAL BILL FORWARD.
THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE
IN THE ROOM WISHING TO TESTIFY
AND SUPPORT OF A B 15 25? SARAH
OLSON WITH THE GREENLINING
INSTITUTE ON BEHALF OF NEXT GEN.
CALIFORNIA THE SAFE ROUTES
PARTNERSHIP. ASIAN PACIFIC
ENVIRONMENTAL NETWORK, TRANSFORM
ACTIVE SGB 3 50 BAY AREA ACTION
URBAN HABITAT BIKE L, A LITTLE
MANILA RISING IN THE CALIFORNIA
GREEN NEW DEAL, COALITION. THANK
YOU. MARK FOCUS OF IT,
REPRESENTING STREETS FOR ALL AND
SUPPORT. BENJAMIN ECKERT WITH
ROMERO INSTITUTE ON OUR BEHALF
AND ON BEHALF OF LET'S GREEN,
CALIFORNIA IN SUPPORT. THANK
YOU. WE'LL MOVE NOW TO
OPPOSITION. MAYBE PROCEED WHEN
YOU'RE READY. YOU NEED TO YOU
NEED TO PUSH THE BUTTON. NO,
THANK YOU. CHAIR AND COMMITTEE
MEMBERS APPRECIATE THE
OPPORTUNITY. IT'S THE FIRST TIME
I SAT UP HERE IN USE THE
MICROPHONE, SO I WASN'T SURE HOW
TO PUSH WHICH PART IT WAS. TO
START OFF THIS DISCUSSION. UM
WELL, AT FIRST, I APOLOGIZE FOR
THE LATEST OF OUR LETTER. UM AND
WE DO BELIEVE THAT THE LETTER
APPLIES TO THE INITIAL VERSION
OF THE BILL, AS WELL AS AMENDED
VERSION OF THE BILL IN TERMS OF
OUR OPPOSITION. MY NAME IS MARK
WATSON, REPRESENTING
TRANSPORTATION, CALIFORNIA. AND
A COALITION OF ALLIED
ORGANIZATIONS AND ASSOCIATIONS.
RANGING FROM LABOR UNIONS TO
MAJOR ORGANIZATIONS IN SOUTHERN
AND NORTHERN CALIF. CALIFORNIA
UM. TO START THE CONVERSATION.
OFTEN I'LL STAY SHORT, MAN. UM
WE ARE AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
OUR SHOP PROGRAM. AND I LOOKED
UP THE EMPIRICAL DATA IN THE
LATEST SHOP. IS $50 BILLION
SHORT OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS ARE
CONCERNED WITH THE STRUCTURE OF
THE BILL IS THAT IT WILL
DISPLACE OBJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN
COMING THROUGH THE PIPELINE IN
AN ORDERLY PROCESS, IMPURE ICAL
PROCESS THAT HAS BEEN
ESTABLISHED BY THE LEGISLATURE
OVER THE LAST DECADE AND WHEN
WE'RE JUST READY TO START
DELIVERING MORE PROJECTS WE WILL
NOW HAVE TO TEST THEM TO SEE
ABOUT THEIR LOCATION. AND UH AND
IF THEY HAVE ANY CO BENEFITS OR
BENEFITS, IF THEY DON'T THEY
WON'T BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD.
SO WE'RE AFRAID THAT THESE VERY
IMPORTANT PROJECTS THAT ARE
RANKED HIGHEST IN THE TRANSPORT
THE OF ASSET MANAGEMENT PLAN AS
WELL AS THE STATE HIGHWAY. SO A
MANAGEMENT PLAN. WILL FAIL TO
QUALIFY AND BE HELD ON THE
SIDELINES UNTIL SUCH TIME AS
THEY DO. I HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO
PAY FOR THEM TO MOVE FORWARD. UM
IN ADDITION, WE'RE LITTLE
CONCERNED ABOUT THE NATURE OF
WHERE OR HOW THE 60% AMOUNT WAS
DERIVED. UM AND WE'VE HAD SOME
CONVERSATIONS WITH THE
PROPONENTS OF THE MEASURE AND WE
CAN CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
AND I THINK AT THIS POINT JUST
LEAVE MY CONVERSATION AND ASK
FOR A NO VOTE. THANK YOU. IS
THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE ROOM
WISHING TO TESTIFY IN
OPPOSITION? KEITH DONE HERE ON
BEHALF THE CELLPHONE COUNTIES
COALITION, THE DISTRICT COUNCIL
LABORER'S WE DON'T HAVE A LETTER
AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING
WITH THE AUTHOR AND STAFF AND
KIND OF HAD AN OPPORTUNITY
BEFOREHAND TO CHAT. BUT WE SHARE
THE SAME GOALS. WE LOOK FORWARD
TO WORKING WITH YOU. WE THINK
THERE'S SOME ISSUES WITH THE WAY
THEY'VE LAID THE BILL OUT, BUT,
UH, WE'RE WILLING TO HAVE A
CONVERSATION. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU, MADAM. CHAIR MEMBERS. TODD
BLOOM STEIN FOR THE SOUTHERN
CALIFORNIA CONTRACTORS
ASSOCIATION WERE OPPOSED. THANK
YOU. MANY LEON WITH THE
CALIFORNIA ALLIANCE FOR JOBS AND
OPPOSITION. OKAY SEEING NO OTHER
TESTIMONY, AND THE ROOM WILL
OPEN THE PHONE LINES FOR
TESTIMONY IN FAVOR OF OR OPPOSED
TO A B 15 25. FOR THOSE WHO WISH
TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL, PLEASE
PRESS ONE THAN ZERO, PRESS ONE
AND ZERO. WE WILL FIRST GO TO
LINE 71. YOUR LINE IS NOW OPEN.
NICOLE WARD ULLMAN ON BEHALF OF
THE CHILDREN'S PARTNERSHIP IN
SUPPORT. WE'LL NOW MOVE ON TO
LINE 48 LINE. 48, YOU'RE LYING!
THE SNOW OPEN YES. ELI LIPPMAN
ON BEHALF OF MOVE L A IN
SUPPORT. COME ON NOW MOVE ON TO
LINE 68. SOFIA OPERA TOBA WITH
THE COALITION FOR CLEAN AIR AND
SUPPORT. LINE 69. GOOD
AFTERNOON. DANA BATTY WITH GRID
ALTERNATIVES CALLING IN SUPPORT
OF THIS BILL, THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. MADAM CHAIR. THERE WAS NO
ONE ELSE IS SIGNALED THAT THEY
WISH TO SPEAK. THANK YOU. WE'LL
GO BACK TO THE COMMITTEE FOR
QUESTIONS, COMMENTS. UM MISS
DAVIS. DID YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP
OR GO FOR IT? I APPRECIATE WHAT
THE AUTHOR AND SPONSORS ARE
TRYING TO DO. UM BUT I'M
CONCERNED AS THE TRANSPORTATION
CALIFORNIA IN THE SELF HELP
COUNTIES. COALITIONS EXPRESS
ABOUT THE LONG LEAD TIME OF
MAJOR TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS
THAT TAKE OFTENTIMES A DECADE TO
GET READY TO GO AND THEN
APPLYING THIS NEW CRITERIA TO
THAT WILL REALLY BE DISRUPTIVE
TO DELIVERING PROJECTS AT ALL
CALIFORNIA'S BENEFIT. SO I'M
CAN'T BE SUPPORTING THE BILL
TODAY. THANK YOU, MR HART.
ANYBODY ELSE? DAVIES THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. UM I
HAVE A FEW CONCERNS WITH THIS. I
SAT ON TRANSPORTATION FOR LEGAL
CITY UP HERE. AND I REMEMBER
WHEN SB ONE WAS BEING, UH, PUSH
THROUGH REGARDS TO THIS TIME WE
PROMISED. WE PROMISED THAT ALL
OF THE FUNDS WILL GO TO THE
ROADS. THEY WON'T BE SPLIT HERE
AND THEY WON'T BE SPLIT HERE.
BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, BEFORE THAT
THERE WAS A TAX INCREASE, AND
THEY WERE TAKING THE GAS TAX
PUTTING INTO GENERAL FUND WHEN
WE HAD RECESSION, SO THEY PASSED
SB ONE. AND NOW MY CONCERN IS
OBVIOUSLY A PROMISE MADE. THIS
ISN'T A PROMISE KEPT AND WE HAVE
A LOT OF PROJECTS. I ALSO SAID
ON T T A, UH, WHEN I WAS ON CITY
COUNCIL AND AGAIN WHEN YOU HAVE
PROJECTS PROJECTS CAN TAKE 5 TO
10 YEARS, AND SO WE HAVE THESE
PROJECTS ALREADY IN THE WORKING
AND SO PLUS, WE ARE SELF HELP
COUNTY AND SO WE COUNT ON A LOT
OF THIS FUNDING TO MATCH AND TO
HELP TO MAKE SURE THESE PROJECTS
GO AND I HAVE A DISTRICT WHERE
THERE'S AREAS WHERE 62% OF THEM
ARE LOW INCOME AND WE'VE GOT A
WE'VE GOT US US SAND DUMPED
RIGHT THERE WHERE YOU'VE GOT A.
IT'S NOT A POTHOLE, BUT IT'S
COMPLETELY SUNK. 40 FT DOWN. WE
HAVE ROADS THAT NEED THIS WORK.
THIS IS AFFECTING EVERYONE. WE
HAVE CERTAIN WE HAVE CERTAIN
ROADS LIKE 78, WHERE RIGHT NOW
IT'S SITTING THERE AND WHAT'S
CAUSING SO MUCH TRAFFIC. SO THIS
AFFECTS NOT ONLY IT AFFECTS
EVERYONE, AND SO I'M REALLY
CONCERNED TO GO AND NELSON. IT'S
AT LEAST 60% TO MAKE SOMETHING
WHERE WE WERE TOLD WHEN THEY
VOTED ON THIS. THIS WILL GO TO
ROAD WORK, AND NOW WE COME BACK
INTO THE SAME THING. AND WE
WONDER WHY THE TRUST ISN'T THERE
ANYMORE. SO I JUST I REALLY HAVE
CONCERNS WITH REALLY CHANGING
THIS AGAIN. THANK YOU. YOU, MR
BERMAN. THANK YOU WANT TO THANK
THE AUTHOR FOR BRINGING THIS
BOTH FORWARD? I FULLY SUPPORT
THE GOALS THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO
ACCOMPLISH. I APPRECIATE THE
CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD EARLIER
TODAY. UM YOU KNOW, JUST WITH
SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT I HAVE
WITH WITH UH, SOME PARTS OF THE
BILL, BUT APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU
PRETTY MUCH SAYING THAT YOU'RE
PLAYING TO CONTINUE WORKING ON
THE DETAILS AND CONTINUING
CONVERSATIONS WITH FOLKS WHO
HAVE CONCERNS AND SO, UM, HAPPY
TO SUPPORT THE BILL TODAY AND
LOOK FORWARD TO KEEPING AN EYE
ON IT AS IT MOVES THROUGH THE
LEGISLATIVE PROCESS. THANKS.
JACKSON. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR
BRINGING THIS BILL FORD. MHM.
YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE
HISTORY, UM OF CALIFORNIA
COMMUNITIES IN TERMS OF HOW
INFRASTRUCTURE WHICH USED TO BE
PLANNED. THE LEVEL OF
DESTRUCTION. THAT IT HAD ON
COMMUNITIES OF COLOR. AH! THAT
CONTINUE TO AFFECT THOSE SAME
COMMUNITIES TODAY. AND AT SOME
POINT WE HAVE TO DECIDE THAT IF
WHETHER WE IF WE BELIEVE IN
EQUITY EQUITY MEANS THAT WE HAVE
TO FOCUS ON THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN
HARMED THE MOST. WHICH IS WHY I
BELIEVE YOU CAME UP WITH THE 60.
BUT EITHER WAY, WE HAVE TO
UNDERSTAND THAT, UM THE STATUS
QUO IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. AND
WHATEVER YOUR NEGOTIATIONS LEAD
TO IF WE TRULY BELIEVE IN EQUITY
EQUITY DOESN'T MEAN CONVENIENCE.
UH UM, WHICH MEANS THAT WE HAVE
TO SOMETIMES AH, SOME
COMMUNITIES HAVE TO BE WILLING
TO SAY WE'VE BENEFITED. FOR
DECADES. AND SO I'M WILLING TO
GIVE UP A LITTLE SOMETHING SO
THAT OTHER COMMUNITIES CAN BE
MADE WHOLE AGAIN. AND SO I
APPLAUD YOU ON THIS BILL, AND I
HOPE YOU CONTINUE TO GO FORTH
AND, UM, BE ABLE TO MAKE THIS
BILL OF REALITY AS YOU CONTINUE
TO WORK ON IT. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU, MISS NGUYEN. THANK YOU,
MADAM CHAIR. I AM. I HAD KILLED
THE SAME CONCERNS SOME OF MY
COLLEAGUES MENTIONED EARLIER. I
APPRECIATE YOU AND I HAVING THAT
CONVERSATION EARLIER. YOU KNOW
WHAT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER AS
THE 50 BILLION. THAT IS SHORT,
AND I THINK THOSE ARE SOME OF
THE CONCERNS. I HAVE THAT WE
HAVE MADE SOME PROMISES TO SOME
COMMUNITIES AROUND
TRANSPORTATION AND
INFRASTRUCTURE AND WHATNOT. AND
MY CONCERN IS THAT THESE WOULD
DELAY SOME OF THESE PROJECTS AND
THEY CAN USE, HOWEVER. I'M A BIG
ADVOCATE FOR DISENFRANCHISED
COMMUNITIES. AND YOU AND I
TALKED ABOUT THAT I COME FROM
THAT COMMUNITY AND FOR OVER A
DECADE, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE
THAT THE PROPER RESOURCES AND
SERVICES WENT THERE. AND AS WE
LOOK AS WE MOVE ALONG, MOST
OFTEN, THOSE COMMUNITIES ARE THE
ONES THAT ARE OVER ELECTED, SO I
APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO
DO. I REALLY HOPE THAT YOU'LL
CONTINUE TO HAVE THESE
CONVERSATIONS. UM WITH WITH ALL
PARTIES, AS YOU MENTIONED
EARLIER. I'M GOING TO SUPPORT
THIS BECAUSE I REALLY WANT TO
SEE THIS COME OUT, BUT I ALSO
WANT TO SEE HOW YOU'RE GOING TO
WORK WITH EVERYBODY TO ENSURE
THAT WE COME TO SOME TYPE OF A
CONSENSUS WHERE MAYBE NOT.
EVERYBODY WINS A WHOLE LOT, BUT
THERE'S A WIN FOR EVERYBODY IN
SOME WAY, AND I BELIEVE THAT
THAT CAN HAPPEN. IT'S JUST GONNA
TAKE A LOT OF WORK, AND I LOOK
FORWARD TO SEEING HOW THAT THAT
COMES OUT TO BE AND HOW YOU ARE
ABLE TO, UM, PULL THE STORE AND
I THINK YOU CAN DO IT. I THINK
YOU CAN DO IT. I THINK, UM, UM I
LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THAT
HAPPEN. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.
ANYBODY ELSE? HERE. I'LL BE
SUPPORTING THE BILL TODAY. I
APPRECIATE YOUR, UM, JUMPING
INTO THIS VERY DIFFICULT AND
VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE, AND I
APPRECIATE YOUR LEADERSHIP. I DO
THINK THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO
ALTER OUR TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM
TO MAKE IT MORE EQUITABLE.
THINGS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO
CHANGE AND THAT'S GOING TO BE
UNCOMFORTABLE AND DIFFICULT. FOR
THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN PLANNING
PROJECTS FOR A LONG TIME WHEN
MAYBE WE WEREN'T TAKING EQUITY
AS MUCH INTO ACCOUNT AS WE'D
LIKE TO TODAY. SO I DON'T THINK
THAT THERE'S ANY WAY THAT YOU'RE
GOING TO REMOVE ALL THE
OPPOSITION. THAT'S BEEN MY
EXPERIENCE. WORKING IN THIS
SPACE, BUT I THINK WHAT'S
IMPORTANT IS THAT YOU HAVE A
BILL THAT DOES ADDRESS WHAT
YOU'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS. SO AS
THE BILL MOVES FORWARD, I HOPE
THAT YOU CONTINUE TO REFINE IT
TO WORK ON DEFINITIONS TO MAKE
SURE THAT YOUR WRITING SOMETHING
IN SUCH A WAY AS TO HAVE THE
INTENDED EFFECT THAT YOU WANT.
UM THAT WE RECOGNIZE THAT
TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS ARE
LARGE. THEY PASSED THROUGH MANY
COMMUNITIES. SO REALLY, WHAT
YOU'RE TRYING TO DO IS TO FOCUS
ON BENEFIT ON ONE COMMUNITY,
EVEN IF THE MONEY IS SPENT IN
MANY COMMUNITIES. UM AND THAT'S
YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT I THINK
YOU NEED TO CONTINUE TO REFINE.
AND IN ADDITION BECAUSE WE DO
HAVE CAPPED E. IT'S IMPORTANT TO
EXPLORE HOW THIS BILL WORKS OR
DOESN'T WORK IN ACCORDANCE WITH
THOSE GOALS. YOU KNOW, ALONG
WITH THE EQUITY GOALS, THERE'S
CLIMATE GOALS. THAT ALSO, UM UH,
WILL PROVIDE BENEFITS TO THE
SAME COMMUNITIES THAT ALSO HAVE
TO COME INTO ACCOUNT AND I HOPE
THAT THE BILL CAN ALSO LOOK AT
SOME OF THOSE IMPACTS AS IT'S
LOOKING AT THE IMPACT AND
FUNDING ON PROJECTS IN GENERAL,
SO THIS IS BIG AND DIFFICULT
POLICY, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT
WE HAVE A VEHICLE TO CONTINUE
THESE CONVERSATIONS, SO I WILL
BE SUPPORTING THE BILL TODAY.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE? THANK
YOU CHAIR AND I CERTAINLY
APPRECIATE THE WORDS OF WISDOM
AND THE LEADERSHIP THAT YOU'VE
HAD OVER THE MANY YEARS IN IN IN
THIS AREA. I JUST WANT TO
ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS.
ONE IS, UH, TO ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
IRWIN'S, UH, POINT. I EVERY
SINGLE BILL THAT I'VE WORKED
OVER THE COURSE OF MY TIME IN
THE LEGISLATURE. UH WE'VE WORKED
REALLY HARD TO BE ABLE TO MAKE
SURE THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO
ADDRESS A LOT OF THE CONCERNS,
UM THROUGHOUT AND ALSO GRANTED,
THERE MIGHT BE A SPACE IN A NEW
WAY THAT WE ARE MOVING THAT WILL
UM, REQUIRES ALL TO BE ABLE TO
BE CONSENSUS DRIVEN AROUND,
ENSURING THAT WE HAVE A BETTER
TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM AND MORE
JUST TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM THAT
WE'RE REDUCING THE IMPACTS OF
REDLINING IN OUR COMMUNITIES AND
THAT WE ARE ADDRESSING SOME OF
THE SERIOUS HEALTH, EQUITY AND
CLIMATE CONCERNS THAT COME UP
ABOUT IN THE IN THE WAY THAT WE
MAKE SOME OF THE TRANSPORTATION
DECISIONS. THAT WE'VE MADE SO
FAR. I WANT TO ALSO JUST SAY
THAT THIS BILL DOES NOT APPLY TO
ANY EXISTING PROJECTS. IT'S A
VERY, UH IT'S A BILL INTENDED TO
BE VERY THOUGHTFUL AROUND
CREATING A STAGED PROCESS FOR US
TO FIRST, DEVELOP OUT AND ADOPT
IN EVALUATION PROCESS TO BE ABLE
TO DEFINE WHAT PRIORITY
POPULATIONS ARE. INITIALLY AND
WHAT THOSE BENEFITS AND IMPACTS
ARE FOR THOSE COMMUNITIES TO
SECOND. MAKE SURE THAT WE
ACTUALLY HAVE SOME VISIBILITY
WHICH WE HAVEN'T HAD INTO THE
KIND OF EXPENDITURES AND WHETHER
OR NOT THEY HAVE BEEN EQUITABLY
DISTRIBUTED BY ENSURING THAT WE
ARE ABLE TO SUBMIT OUR SUPPORT
REPORT FROM THE TRANSPORTATION
PROJECTS FROM THE PRIOR YEAR TO
DEVELOP OUT A BASELINE TO BE
ABLE TO DO SO. AND THEN FINALLY
, TO BE ABLE TO HAVE, UM, A
STAKE IN THE GROUND AROUND THE
FACT THAT WE'RE SETTING A 60%
ALLOCATION OF PROJECTS TO GO TO
DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACTED
COMMUNITIES. AND I JUST WANT TO,
UM ALSO JUST RECOGNIZE THAT IT'S
THE PROJECTS NOT ONLY WILL
IMPACT THE JUST THE JUST
PROPORTIONATELY IMPACTED
COMMUNITIES, BUT ALSO THE WAYS
IN WHICH PROJECTS ARE FLOWING
INTO, UH AND CONNECTING THOSE
COMMUNITIES TO RESOURCES AND
OPPORTUNITIES AND TO TRANSIT. SO
I THINK WITH THAT, UM, IT WILL.
WE WILL FIND THE HAPPY BALANCE.
I AM SURE OVER TIME. AND LASTLY
, I WILL SAY THAT WE JUST WANT
TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE AN
OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE TRANSPARENCY
AROUND THE WAY IN WHICH OUR
TRANSPORTATION DOLLARS ARE SPENT
MOVING FORWARD IN A WAY THAT WE
HAVEN'T HAD BEFORE, AND THAT WE
KNOW THAT THOSE TRANSPORTATION
DOLLARS ARE BEING SPENT TO BE
ABLE TO NOT DISADVANTAGE ANYMORE
COMMUNITIES THAT THAT ARE JUST
PROPORTIONATELY IMPACTED BY THE
HARMS CREATED, UM, ENVIRONMENTAL
HARMS HEALTH HARMS AND LACK OF
ACCESS HARMS IN THAT AS WELL. SO
WITH THAT, I RESPECTFULLY
REQUEST RIGHT? THANK YOU. DO WE
HAVE A MOTION? WE HAVE EMOTION
IN A SECOND ROLL CALL. MAYBE 15
25 DO PASS AND RE REFER TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS.
FRIEDMAN FRIEDMAN, I FANG PHªN
KNOW BERMAN BERMAN. I CARILLO
DAVIES BABIES. NO, GIBSON. TIPS
AND I HEART. ART NOT VOTING.
JACKSON JACKSON I CHOLERA.
LOWENTHAL AND THOUGHT I WIN.
WHEN I SANCHEZ BENCHES, NO
WALLACE WARD WICKS. WE HAVE
SEVEN. THE BILL HAS SEVEN VOTES
WILL LEAVE THE ROLE OPEN FOR
ABSENT MEMBERS. THANK YOU. OKAY?
MR FONG. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A
SECOND FOR A B 501. MR FONG. IF
THERE'S ANY OPPOSITION, YOU CAN
ALSO COME UP TO THE DIOCESE AT
THIS TIME.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS. I JUST WANT TO TAKE A
MOMENT TO HIGHLIGHT THE
CONVERSATION WE HAD ON THE
PREVIOUS BILL BECAUSE THAT'S A
GOOD FRAME FOR THE CONVERSATION
FOR THIS ONE. I WOULD LIKE TO
HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT
REINVESTING THE HIGH SPEED RAIL
DOLLARS THAT CURRENTLY THE STATE
LEGISLATURE IS PUSHING AND
PUTTING IT INTO HIGHER
PRIORITIES. IN 2008 VOTERS WERE
PROMISED AND EFFICIENT, HIGH
SPEED RAIL THAT WOULD TAKE
TRAVELERS FROM LOS ANGELES TO
SAN FRANCISCO AND LESS THAN
THREE HOURS WE WERE LED TO
BELIEVE THAT THE PROJECTS TOTAL
COST WOULD BE $34 BILLION. 15
YEARS LATER. THE PROJECTED COST
HAS BALLOONED TO $128 BILLION
AND NOTHING HAS BEEN COMPLETED.
THERE IS NO PRIVATE INVESTMENT.
IN CALIFORNIA TAXPAYERS ARE NOW
AT RISK OF GREATER COST BURDENS
. THE PROJECT IS CLEARLY ON LIFE
SUPPORT SO MUCH MONEY HAS BEEN
MISMANAGED AT THE AUTHORITY CAN
NO LONGER AFFORD TO BUILD THE
FIRST SEGMENT FROM MERCED TO
BAKERSFIELD WITHOUT INFUSION OF
BILLIONS OF DOLLARS. THAT
DOESN'T EXIST. SOME OF MY
COLLEAGUES MAY SAY THAT THIS IS
TOO PREMATURE TO MAKE A DECISION
ON WHETHER TO CONTINUE THE
LEGISLATURE'S SIGNIFICANT
CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE PROJECT
BEFORE WE'VE SEEN THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT. AND IF THE SCENE SEE
IF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WILL
PROVIDE BILLIONS TO BAIL OUT
THIS PROJECT. THE REASON WHY
THIS PROJECT RECEIVED CAP AND
TRADE FUNDS IS TO REDUCE
GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS. THE
HIGH SPEED RAIL IS NO LONGER
MEETING THAT GOAL. WE'VE GIVEN
THE AUTHORITY 15 YEARS TO
DELIVER, AND THEY HAVEN'T COME
CLOSE. THE STRUGGLING CALIFORNIA
HIGH SPEED RAIL IS LIVING ON A
MIRROR HOPE THAT THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT WILL GRANT THEM $8
BILLION AFTER REJECTING AN
EARLIER APPLICATION JUST MONTHS
AGO. EVEN IF THE AUTHORITY
RECEIVED EVERY DOLLAR OF THE
FEDERAL GRANT MONEY HAD APPLIED
FOR THE PROJECT WOULD STILL BE
TENS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS A
SHORT OF THE $128 BILLION PRICE
TAG AND BILLIONS SHORT OF THE
PLAN TO RUN TRAINS BETWEEN
MERCED AND BIG ASSAULT. THE
FEDERAL LIFELINE FOR THE FAILING
PROJECT IS A PIPE DREAM. THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS YET TO
BAIL OUT THE PROJECT, AND WITH
PUBLIC OPINION WAITING ON ITS
VIABILITY, IT'S UNLIKELY THAT
THEY WILL INJECT THE BILLIONS OF
DOLLARS NECESSARY TO FINISH IT.
THE LEGISLATURE IS SPENDING
BILLIONS IN CAP AND TRADE
REVENUES WITH NO POSSIBILITY
THAT THIS PROJECT WILL PRODUCE
ANY MEANINGFUL CARBON
REDUCTIONS. AS WE ARE HEARD AT
THE RECENT JOINT HEARING ON THE
HIGH SPEED RAIL BUSINESS PLAN,
THE PEER REVIEW GROUP SAID THAT
THIS IS NOT THE PROJECT THAT THE
VOTERS APPROVED IN 2008 NOR A
GREENHOUSE GAS PROJECT AS THEY
WILL NOT HAVE A DRAMATIC EFFECT
IN THE CONTEXT OF CALIFORNIA'S
CLIMATE GOALS. THERE'S MONEY
WOULD BE FAR BETTER SPENT ON
FLOOD PROTECTION AND WATER
STORAGE. PROJECTS LIKE SCIENCE
RESERVOIR, UPDATING THE DELTA,
MENDOTA AND FRANK CURRENT
CANALS, ALONG WITH COUNTLESS
LEVEES THAT NEED REPAIRS. WE ALL
KNOW MEMBERS, TRILLIONS OF
GALLONS OF RAINFALL HAS
ACCUMULATED ACROSS OUR STATE AND
EVEN MORE CONCERNING OUR
SNOWPACK IS OVER 400% OF AVERAGE
FOR THIS TIME OF THE YEAR, THE
CURRENT RIVER IS FLOWING AT 5600
CUBIC FEET PER SECOND, AND IT IS
EXPECTED TO INCREASE TO 7000
CUBIC FEET PER SECOND BY JUNE.
THIS IS OVER FOUR TIMES LARGER
THAN A NORMAL FLOW RATE.
SCIENTISTS AND WATER EXPERTS ARE
EXTREMELY WORRIED ABOUT THE
POTENTIAL FOR EVEN WORSE
FLOODING AS THE DAYS GET WARMER.
THIS IS NOTHING SHORT OF A
DISASTER FOR CALIFORNIA, WHICH
WILL HAVE WIDESPREAD
RAMIFICATIONS FOR THE WORLD'S
FOOD AND TEXTILE SUPPLY. IT IS
TIME FOR THE LEGISLATURE TO
REALLOCATE THE NEARLY $1 BILLION
GIVEN TO THIS PROJECT EACH YEAR
TOWARDS WATER INFRASTRUCTURE OR
ANY OTHER PRIORITY. WE COULD SAY
MASS TRANSIT BECAUSE THEY RURAL
ROADS SO THAT THIS MONEY CAN BE
USED TO SAVE CALIFORNIANS
LIVELIHOODS AND LIVES. AND I
WOULD ARGUE THAT AT THIS MOMENT
IN TIME, IT SHOULD GO TO FLOOD
PROTECTION AND WATER
INFRASTRUCTURE. THE FLOODING
ACROSS THE CENTRAL VALLEY,
CENTRAL COAST AND EASTERN
SIERRAS IS SIGNIFICANT HOMES,
LIVELIHOODS AND ENTIRE
COMMUNITIES HAVE BEEN DAMAGED TO
OUR RISK LARGE SWATHS OF THE
HIGH SPEED RAIL ZONE
CONSTRUCTION SITES ARE
UNDERWATER AND DEEMED UNWORKABLE
DUE TO THE FLOODING TAKING OVER
OUR CENTRAL VALLEY. THE
WIDESPREAD FLOODING HIGHLIGHTS
THE CRITICAL NEED FOR MORE WATER
INFRASTRUCTURE IN CALIFORNIA.
MAYBE 501 IS A SOLUTION TO MEET
THIS GOAL. THE TIME TO ENACT
REAL CHANGES. NOW WE MUST INVEST
THIS FUNDING SO THAT WE CAN
PROTECT THE COMMUNITIES THAT
DESPERATELY NEED TO PROTECT
THEIR LIVES AND PROPERTIES FROM
FLOODWATERS AND PREPARE FOR MORE
WATER STORAGE. THIS BILL WILL
STOP THE SPENDING GOING TO THIS
FAILED PROJECT, AND IT MAKES IT
MAKES IT AVAILABLE FOR LIFE
SAVING WATER PROJECTS ACROSS
CALIFORNIA. I RESPECTFULLY ASK
WHEN I VOTE. THANK YOU. IS THERE
ANYONE ELSE OR IS THERE ANYBODY
HERE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS
BILL? OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANY
WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION? THANK
YOU, MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF
THE COMMITTEE FIRST. I'D LIKE TO
THANK THE AUTHOR FOR HIS
DEDICATION TO FINDING WATER
FUNDING FOR THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA. ALL OF YOU KNOW, HIS
CONSTITUENTS KNOW, AND I KNOW
THAT HE IS DEDICATED TO THAT
EFFORT, AND I APPLAUD HIM FOR
THAT. IF THIS WAS BASEBALL, HE'D
BE IN THE HALL OF FAME BECAUSE
HE'D BE HITTING 500,
UNFORTUNATELY, IS DEAD WRONG ON
THIS ISSUE WITH REGARDS TO THE
HIGH SPEED TRAIN. THE CALIFORNIA
HIGH SPEED TRAIN IS A PROJECT
THAT IS BEING BUILT TO DELIVER
THE VERY CHANGES THAT THIS
LEGISLATURE IN PAST GOVERNORS
INCLUDING THIS GOVERNOR HAVE
DEMANDED OF THE POLICY MAKERS
AND THE SUPPORT OF THE CITIZENS
OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA
SUPPORT. I WOULD CHALLENGE THIS
LEGISLATURE AND THIS AUTHOR TO
HELP THE CALIFORNIA HIGH SPEED
RAIL AND SUPPORTING THEIR
APPLICATION FOR A STATE FEDERAL
GRANT OF BILLIONS. THAT MONEY
DOESN'T COST THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA ANYTHING. IN FACT,
CALIFORNIA'S A DONOR STATE. THIS
MONEY WILL HELP FINISH THE
CENTRAL VALLEY PROVIDING AND
AGAIN I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE
ASSOCIATION OF CALIFORNIA TRAINS
IN THE DISTRICT COUNCIL OF
IRONWORKERS OF THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA BILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
TENS OF THOUSANDS OF JOBS HAVE
BEEN CREATED. IN THE CENTRAL
VALLEY, AN AREA THAT HAS HAD
HISTORIC UNEMPLOYMENT AND NEEDS
THAT RESOURCE. IT'S NOT A JOBS
PROGRAM. THIS IS A
TRANSFORMATIVE PROJECT THAT HAS
HAD ITS BUMPS IN THE ROAD. WE'VE
TALKED ABOUT THEM RECENTLY.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THEM FOR
YEARS. PROJECTS LIKE THESE ARE
COMPLICATED AND TAKE TIME AGAIN
. I APPLAUD THE EFFORT TO
PROVIDE WATER RESOURCES AS THE
ADVOCATE FOR SITES RESERVOIR. WE
NEED IT. WE SHOULD BE DOING THAT
IS THE WRONG APPROACH. WE'D
ASKED FOR A NO VOTE ON A B 501.
THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE
IN THE ROOM WISHING TO TESTIFY
IN OPPOSITION? AFTERNOON MADAM
CHAIR AND MEMBERS BEVERLY ON
BEHALF OF STATE BUILDING
CONSTRUCTION TRADES COUNCIL
REPRESENT HALF A MILLION MEMBERS
STATEWIDE. WE ARE RESPECTFULLY
IN OPPOSITION TO MAYBE FIVE. OH,
ONE, UM, FOR REASONS THAT IT
WOULD, UM, NEGATIVELY IMPACTED
PROJECT THAT, UM, EMPLOYS
THOUSANDS OF OUR MEMBERS. WE
SHARE THE SAME CONCERNS AS IN
THE COMMITTEE ANALYSIS THAT THE
BILL COULD ESSENTIALLY STOP
CONSTRUCTION. THE PROJECT IN THE
CENTRAL VALLEY BECAUSE GR HAVE
FUNDS WOULD NOT BE AVAILABLE TO
MATCH THE PROBLEM, ONE A FUNDS
AS REQUIRED BY THE BOND ACT.
CONTINUED INVESTMENT OF THE G R
F, WHERE I HIGH SPEED RAIL IS AN
INVESTMENT IN CALIFORNIA'S
FUTURE WITHOUT THE BENEFIT OF
READY CREATING OVER 10,000 JOBS
, OF WHICH 73% HAVE GONE TO
INDIVIDUALS FROM THE CENTRAL
VALLEY, INCLUDING 762 SMALL
BUSINESSES, 159 DISADVANTAGED
BUSINESS ENTERPRISES AND 93
DISABLED VETERAN BUSINESSES.
ENTERPRISES NOTABLY, THESE ARE
OPPORTUNITIES CREATED IN THE
PART OF THE STATE, WHERE THERE
IS NOT MANY OPTIONS FOR A PATH
TO THE MIDDLE CLASS. RATHER THAN
CONTEMPLATING A SHIFT IN G R F
FUNDS. WE ENCOURAGE THE
LEGISLATURE TO BEGIN REAL
DISCUSSIONS OF AN EXTENSION OF
THE PROGRAM WITH THE CONTINUING
INVESTMENT FOR HIGH SPEED RAIL.
YOU LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH
YOU ALL TO IDENTIFY AND SUPPORT
ALL OTHER POTENTIAL FUNDING
SOURCES FOR WATER AND
TRANSPORTATION NEEDS. UM
RESPECTFULLY ASKED FOR A NO VOTE
AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH
THE AUTHOR AND THE COMMITTEE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, AND I
DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO
TESTIFY ON THE BILL. OPERATOR
CAN YOU PLEASE OPEN THE PHONE
LINES FOR TESTIMONY FOR OR
AGAINST A B 501? FOR THOSE
WISHING TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL, PLEASE
PRESS ONE THAN ZERO. MORE THAN
GO TO LINE 48. THEIR LINE IS
OPEN. YES YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN FOR
MOVE L. A IN OPPOSITION TO GO.
THERE IS NO ONE ELSE WHO
SIGNALED THAT THEY WISH TO SPEAK
. THANK YOU, AND I'M GOING TO
HAVE TO RUN OUT TO A VERY QUICK.
JUST DO A QUICK PHONE CALL. SO
I'M GOING TO JUST GIVE MY
COMMENTS NOW. I VERY MUCH
RESPECT MY VICE CHAIR. AND HE
AND I AGREE ON MORE THAN YOU
WOULD THINK, BUT WE DEFINITELY
DON'T AGREE ON THIS. EVEN IF YOU
DIDN'T LIKE THE HIGH SPEED RAIL
PROJECT, THIS WOULD NOT BE THE
WAY THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO
DIVERT FUNDS AWAY. UM, IN FACT,
I KNOW THAT NATURAL RESOURCES
DOES NOT EVEN ALLOW POLICY BILLS
THAT DIRECT GREENHOUSE GAS FUNDS
IN ANY PARTICULAR DIRECTION
THROUGH A POLICY BILL THAT'S
ALWAYS PART OF A LARGER BUDGET
CONVERSATION. UM, BUT RIGHT NOW
, THE HIGH SPEED RAIL AUTHORITY
IS ATTEMPTING TO GET FEDERAL
MONEY AND VERY HOPEFUL. I'M VERY
I AM VERY HOPEFUL THAT THEY WILL
BE SUCCESSFUL IN DOING THAT. WE
CERTAINLY NEED TO HAVE MORE
INFORMATION ABOUT YOU KNOW ABOUT
WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE A FEDERAL
FUNDING PARTNER FOR THAT PROJECT
, AND WE ALSO NEED TO HAVE A
COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS OF THAT
PROJECT. YOU KNOW, IN ITS
CURRENT FORM. UM, I APPRECIATE
YOUR BRINGING THE BILL FORWARD,
BUT I CERTAINLY CANNOT SUPPORT
IT AT THIS TIME, AND I WOULD
URGE OTHERS IN THE COMMITTEE TO
NOT TRY TO IMPACT THIS VERY
LARGE PROJECT EMPLOYING
THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE. THERE WERE
SIMPLE POLICY BILL IN THE
COMMITTEE. AND WITH THAT, I'M
GOING TO PASS THE GAVEL TO MR
JACKSON. FOR THE REST OF THE, UM
NEXT FEW MINUTES. THANK YOU. ARE
THERE ANY OTHER COMMITTEE
MEMBERS AT THIS TIME? MISS
DAVIES. THANK YOU. UM I ACTUALLY
THINK THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF
THE MOST COMMON SENSE. UM UM,
BILLS THAT YOU COULD ACTUALLY DO
AND I LOOK AT IT THIS WAY IS
WE'VE GOT A LOT OF, UM, SAFETY
SHOVEL READY JOBS RIGHT NOW. I
HAVE A RAIL IN SAN CLEMENTE THAT
HAS BEEN CLOSED SINCE NOVEMBER
AND JUST RECENTLY OPENED. MAINLY
WE HAVE SANTA EROSION. UM WE'VE
GOT HOUSES THAT ARE SLIPPING OFF
RIGHT NOW. AND WE ACTUALLY HAD A
STOP. UM MOBILITY. YOU'VE GOT A
LOT OF PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, IN ALL
AREAS USING THIS TRANSPORTATION
TRYING TO GET THROUGH ALSO, UM
WE'VE GOT TRADES AND GOODS THAT
HAVE BEEN STOPPED AND WHEN
THERE'S MONEY SITTING THERE, AND
WE KNOW THAT THESE THINGS ARE
SAFETY ISSUES. THIS IS RAIL THE
JOBS, YOU WOULD NOT LOSE JOBS
BECAUSE YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE
THESE WORKERS TO COME AND DO
THESE JOBS AND SHE WOULD HAVE
TAKING CARE OF FLOODING AND THE
INFRASTRUCTURE. SAME WITH THEIR
RAILROAD. I JUST, UM YOU KNOW, I
JUST HAVE TO QUESTION IS
UNDERSTAND THAT THE VOTERS VOTED
FOR THIS MANY YEARS AGO, AND THE
PRICE IS REALLY GONE UP. BUT
THAT'S THE SAME AS THE VOTERS
VOTED, UM, AT THE BALLOT TO, UM,
KEEP PROPOSITION ONE. AND SO
THEY LIKE WHAT THAT WAS. THAT
WAS THE GAS TAX. THAT WAS THE
INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WAS
PROMISING THAT ALL THE MONEY
WOULD GO TO WORK PROGRAMS ARE
TO, UH, ROAD WORK. AND OF
COURSE, IF WE JUST LOOK AT THE
PAST ONE THAT COMPLETELY CHANGED
IT AGAIN, SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE
THAT DIFFERS FROM THAT VOTE TO
THIS VOTE, SO I JUST THINK WE
REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT WHERE THE
MONEY IS. RIGHT NOW. WE'RE IN A
DEFICIT AND WE'VE GOT PROJECTS
THAT HAVE TO BE DONE
IMMEDIATELY. AND THESE ARE
SAFETY ISSUES WHEN IT COMES TO
CONNECTIVITY TO MOBILITY. AND
WHEN THE MONEY IS SITTING THERE,
AND WE KNOW WE CAN ACTUALLY USE
THE WORKERS TO, YOU KNOW, GO
FORWARD WITH IT AS WELL AS THESE
ARE PROJECTS THAT ARE AGAINST
SAFETY SHOVEL READY RIGHT NOW. I
THINK IT'S A SMART IDEA. THANK
YOU. ANY OTHER MEMBERS AT THIS
TIME. MR CARILLO. RECOGNIZING
THE MANY CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE
IN CALIFORNIA, HIGH SPEED BEING
ONE OF THEM, OBVIOUSLY. AND THE
ISSUE THAT THEY BROUGHT UP THEIR
WATER. WE JUST HAVE TO BE ABLE
TO INVEST IN THAT. UM BUT I DO
BELIEVE THAT CALIFORNIA CAN
BRING HIGH SPEED RAIL. BEEN A
BIG PROPONENT FOR A LONG TIME. I
ACTUALLY WORK IN A STATION PLAN.
AND, UH, MAYBE NOW THAT WE HAVE
AND YOU'VE HEARD ME TALK ABOUT
BRIGHT LINE AND DRYLAND STARTING
CONSTRUCTION. HOPEFULLY THIS
YEAR, UH, IN WHAT I LEARNED FROM
THE JOINT COMMITTEE HERE AND WE
HAD IS THAT OTHER NATIONS HAVE
BEEN ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT BY
DOING JOINT PARTNERSHIPS. MAYBE
THIS WILL BE THE WAY TO DO IT
PARTNERSHIP WITH A PRIVATE
INVESTOR WHO I UNDERSTAND IS
GOING TO ASK FOR FEDERAL DOLLARS
NOW. UM BUT IT WILL BE A WASTE
OF MONEY, WHICH HAS DECIDED NOT
TO CONTINUE WITH THE PROJECT. WE
ALSO HEARD THAT MEGAPROJECTS
TAKE A LOT OF A LOT OF A LOT OF
MONEY. A LOT OF INVESTMENT A LOT
OF TIME. UH AND I AGAIN I STILL
BELIEVE THAT WE CAN DO THE LIVER
THAT, UH, HERE IN CALIFORNIA.
AND FOR THAT, I CANNOT SUPPORT
THAT. THAT THAT IS TIME. THANK
YOU. IN THE OTHER MEMBERS AT
THIS TIME. MR KARA. THANK YOU,
MR CHAIR. I WANNA SECOND THE
COMMENTS FROM MY COLLEAGUE. UH I
DO BELIEVE THERE IS NO DOUBT
THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE CONTINUED
VIGILANCE IN TERMS OF OVERSIGHT
AND ENSURING THAT, UM, HIGH
SPEED WHEEL PROJECT CAN BE
DELIVERED AND OBVIOUSLY, BEING
ABLE TO LEVERAGE FEDERAL FUNDS
IS CRITICAL, AND I THINK A LOT
WILL BE LEARNED IN THAT REGARD
OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS
AND WATER INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE
RESOURCE FOR THAT IS CRITICAL AS
WELL. I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S AN
EITHER. OR PROPOSITION. I THINK
IT'S A BOTH AND PARTICULARLY IN
TERMS OF THE JOBS YOU CAN
CREATED, MANY OF WHICH ARE BEING
CREATED IN YOUR DISTRICT. MR
FRANK. I THINK THAT UM, THOSE
JOBS ARE, UM, NUMBER OF CREATING
A QUALITY OF LIFE THAT OTHERWISE
WOULD BE VERY HARD TO ATTAIN BY
MANY THAT LIVE IN THE CENTRAL
VALUE THERE THAT ARE WORKING
THOSE JOBS NOW, BUT A PROGRAM BY
ITSELF SHOULDN'T BE A JOBS
PROGRAM. BUT I DON'T THINK WE
CAN IGNORE THE FACT THAT THERE
ARE THOUSANDS OF HIGH QUALITY
JOBS. THAT ARE BEING CREATED AND
WILL CONTINUE TO BE CREATED. AS
IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT. UM
PROJECT MOVES FORWARD. I STILL
BELIEVE IN IT. UM ALTHOUGH I DO
THINK THAT YOU KNOW A LOT OF
QUESTIONS. I THINK THERE ARE
APPROPRIATE BEEN RAISED OVER THE
YEARS. UH I THINK ULTIMATELY AS
AS MENTIONED THESE THESE
MEGAPROJECTS THAT DO TAKE MANY,
MANY YEARS. UM IN RETROSPECT, I
THINK WHAT WE'LL LOOK BACK AND
APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT WE
DIDN'T GIVE UP ON IT. OKAY ANY
ADDITIONAL MEMBERS AT THIS TIME?
SAYING THAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO
CLOSE? THANK YOU, MR CHAIR, SO I
APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS FROM THE
FROM MEMBERS AND I, AND I THINK
THIS IS A ROBUST CONVERSATION
THAT WE NEED TO HAVE, UH, ON ON
A LENGTHIER BASIS. LOOK I AM A
MEMBER THAT REPRESENTS THE
REGION. THAT IS IMPACTED THE
MOST OF THIS PROJECT. I DON'T
THINK ANYONE IN THIS ROOM CAN
SAY THAT. I REPRESENT CURRENT
COUNTY ANCILLARY COUNTIES. THIS
PROJECT IS IMPACTING MY
COMMUNITY, THE MOST AND WE'VE
HAD NINE BUSINESS PLANS. OR
INDICATING REDUCTION OF
RIDERSHIP. COST OVERRUNS FROM
$34 BILLION TO $128 BILLION.
WE'VE NOW SEEN DELAYS. THIS
PROJECT WAS SLATED TO FINISH IN
2020. NOW THERE IS NO TIME THAT
THEY'RE GOING TO SAY THEY WON'T.
THEY CAN TELL US THAT ONE DAY
THEY WILL BE CONSTRUCTED. THE
VIEW, READ THE PEER REVIEW STUDY
. IT IS CLEAR THERE IS NO
PRIVATE INVESTMENT COMING. THE
VOTERS IN 2008 WERE PROMISED
THAT 21 TO 22% OF THIS OF THIS
PROJECT. WOULD COME FROM PRIVATE
INVESTMENT, AND THAT'S NOT
HAPPENING. THE ONLY WAY THIS
PROJECT IS GOING TO BE COMPLETED
IS A BAILOUT AND A HOPE AND A
PRAYER THAT THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT'S GONNA COME IN THAT
THAT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN. IF YOU
WATCH THE DEBATES, THEY'RE
DEBATING A DEBT CEILING AND HOW
TO FIND CUTS, NOT BAILING OUT
THIS PROJECT IN CALIFORNIA. TO
MY LABOR PARTNERS. I WANT TO
BUILD STUFF IN CALIFORNIA. I
WANT TO BUILD ROADS. WE HAVE $50
BILLION IN INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS
AND ROADS THAT CAN BE BUILT. WE
HAVE WATER INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS
. CLEARLY AS I WOULD ARGUE THAT
WE NEED TO DO RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE
MASSIVE FLOODING CONCERNS IN OUR
STATE SITES RESERVOIR THAT THE
CANALS THE LEVEES THAT THIS
ISN'T THIS IS THE CRISIS THAT
WE'RE FACING IN THE SUMMER. AND
ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE. WE HAVE
ELECTRICITY GRID RELIABILITY
CHALLENGES. WE COULD SAY THAT WE
HAVE A MASS TRANSIT CLIFT. I
WOULD SAY WE WOULD ARGUE THAT WE
CAN MOVE SOME OF THAT MONEY THE
MASS TRANSIT OF RURAL ROAD
NEEDS. THIS IS SHOULD WE BE
SPENDING A BILLION DOLLARS ON
THIS PROJECT VERSUS ANY OF THE
OTHER PRIORITIES? I JUST LISTED
AND SO THIS IS THE ARGUMENT.
THIS IS THE CHOICE THAT WE'VE
BEEN MADE. WE HAVE TO MAKE AS A
LEGISLATURE. ARE WE GOING TO
INVEST A BILLION DOLLARS EVERY
SINGLE YEAR THAT WILL NOT FINISH
A PROJECT THAT WOULD EVEN BE
REMOTELY UTILIZED IN CALIFORNIA
, OR SHOULD WE BE DEALING WITH
THE CRISIS THAT OUR CONSTITUENTS
AND CALIFORNIANS ARE FACING
RIGHT NOW? AND SO I RESPECTFULLY
ASK FOR MY BOAT. THIS BILL HAS A
MOTION AND A SECOND, UM. IT IS A
B 501. DO PASS AND RE REFERRED
TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. THE CHAIR IS
VOTING. NO. FRIEDMAN. PHªN
KHÔNG. AYE. BERMAN BERMAN. NO
CARILLO CARILLO NÓ DAVIES DAVIES
I GIBSON GIBSON. NO. ART. NO
JACKSON. NO NO CHOLERA. ALL
AROUND NOW, LOWENTHAL. LOWENTHAL
KNOW WHEN. WHEN NO. SANCHEZ.
SANCHEZ? YES. WALLACE WARD
WICKS. IT IS. AH 38. WOULD YOU
LIKE RECONSIDERATION? OKAY?
WITHOUT OBJECTION. WE ARE
GRANTING RECONSIDERATION. MR
GIBSON AND A B. 16 OH, SIX. AND
BEFORE YOU START, I WILL HAND
OVER THE GAVEL TO OUR VICE
CHAIR. IT'S BEEN AN HONOR TO
SERVE. YOU MAY PROCEED WHEN
YOU'RE READY, MR GIBSON. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. MR CHAIRMAN AND
MEMBERS. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING
ME I WILL. BE BRIEF. UM UM AND I
CAN THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO
PRESENT ASSEMBLY BILL 16. OH,
SIX. WHICH AUTHORIZED THE
DEPARTMENT OF MOTOR VEHICLE TO
ESTABLISH A PROGRAM TO EVALUATE
THE TRAFFIC, SAFETY AND OTHER
EFFECTS OF RENEWING DRIVING
LICENSE BY VIRTUAL OR OTHER
REMOTE PROCESSES. THE EFFORTS,
UH THIS EFFORT STEMS FROM THE
EXECUTIVE ORDER ISSUED BY OUR
GOVERNOR, GAVIN NEWSOM. UM
DURING THE DURING THE PANDEMIC
COVID 19 PANDEMIC THAT WAVES IN
PERSON RENEWAL'S FOR SENIOR
DRIVERS. TODAY I ACCEPT THE
COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS. UM THAT
REQUIRES A D. M V TO PROVIDE A
REPORT TO THE LEGISLATURE ABOUT
THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THIS
PROGRAM AND LAY OUT THE
STANDARDS ON WHO IS ELIGIBLE. OR
ONLINE RENEWAL. AS TECHNOLOGY
ADVANCED. IT IS TIME TO START
EXPANDING DMV IS TO SOME WORK TO
SOMEWHERE THAT IS MORE
ACCESSIBLE AND CONVENIENT AND
ONLINE FOR SENIORS AND OTHERS
HAVING TO TRAVEL IN PERSON TO
THE DMV, MAYBE AN ADDED BURDEN
ON THE DIFFICULTIES. AH THEY
ALREADY FACE IN THEIR EVERYDAY
LIVES HAVING ONLINE SERVICE
AVAILABILITY AVAILABLE WILL SAVE
MANY CUSTOMERS THE TROUBLE OF
DRIVING TO THE DMV WAITING LONG
PERIODS OF TIME FOR A FOR A
PROCESS THAT CAN BE DONE QUICKLY
AND EASILY THROUGH THE INTERNET.
THIS BILL WOULD NOT ELIMINATE
AND I WANT TO UNDERSCORE IT, NOT
ELIMINATE ANY OF THE CURRENT
EXAMINING EXAMS ISSUED BY THE D
. M. B UM RATHER, IT WILL
PROVIDE AN ALTERNATIVE METHOD
FOR DOING THESE TASKS. DRIVERS
UM, WOULD HAVE THE OPTION TO
REMOTELY SUBMIT THEIR
APPLICATION AND VISION
INFORMATION. PROVIDED BY HEALTHY
HEALTHCARE PROVIDER PAY THEIR
FEES AND COMPLETE A KNOWLEDGE
TEST. THESE CHANGES COULD MAKE.
UM THESE THESE CHANGES COULD
MAKE ABOUT 1.25 MILLION
ADDITIONAL DRIVING LICENSE
RENEWAL ELIGIBLE FOR REMOTE
PROCESSES. NOT ONLY WITH THIS
BENEFIT OUR SENIORS, BUT IT
WOULD INCREASE CUSTOMER
CONVENIENCE AND REDUCE THE
NUMBER OF DMV. I'M HERE WITH ME
TO PROVIDE SUPPORTING TESTIMONY
, HONORED TO SAY IS A FORMER
MEMBER OF THIS HOUSE. THE GREEN
CARPET. THE STATE ASSEMBLY IS
FORMER STATE ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S ER
RICHARD WHITE, WHO HAVE WITH THE
SENIOR WITH THE CALIFORNIA
SENIOR LEGISLATURE, AND I'M
HONORED THAT HE IS SPEAKING IN
THIS HOUSE ON IN SUPPORT OF THIS
BILL 16. OH, SIX. THANK YOU
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S GIBSON FOR
TAKING THE LEAD ON THIS BILL.
THANK YOU. COMMITTEE MEMBERS FOR
HEARING US TODAY. GOOD AFTERNOON
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. MY NAME IS
RICHARD WHITE. I AM A MEMBER OF
THE CALIFORNIA SENIOR
LEGISLATURE. AND I'M HERE TODAY
TO EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR A B 16.
OH, SIX. UM COVID 19 BROUGHT A
LOT OF CHANGES TO TWO PEOPLE IN
THIS COUNTRY AND AROUND THE
WORLD. AND FOR THE PERIOD FROM
OCTOBER 2020 THROUGH THE END OF
2022 OLDER ADULTS WERE ALLOWED
TO RENEW AND COMPLETE THEIR
RENEWAL APPLICATIONS, UH, ONLINE
AND THROUGH THROUGH ELECTRONIC
REMOTE MEANS. THAT. THAT WAIVER
ENDED THE END OF DECEMBER TO BE
RENEWED, AND THAT'S THE PURPOSE
OF THIS BILL. UM THESE DRIVERS
DURING THIS TIME WERE PERMITTED
TO EXTEND THEIR RENEWAL'S IN
MAIL BY MAIL BY EMAIL AND
INTERNET AND AS OF JANUARY, 21ST
. AS I SAID, THEY NO LONGER HAVE
THAT ABILITY. A B 16. OH, SIX.
WOULD AUTHORIZE THE DMV
DEPARTMENT OF MOTOR VEHICLES TO
ALLOW DRIVERS OVER THE AGE OF
70. SEVERAL OPTIONS TO REMOTELY
SUBMIT THEIR APPLICATIONS AND
OTHER DOCUMENTS ONLINE. THIS
INCREASES CONVENIENCE FOR
EVERYONE INVOLVED AND AVOIDS
TRIPS FOR THOSE FOLKS TO THE
DMV, AND THAT CAN INVOLVE LONG
WAIT LINES. SO, FOR THIS REASON
, THE CALIFORNIA SENIOR
LEGISLATURE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST
YOUR APPROVAL AND SUPPORT FOR A
B 16. OH, SIX. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. WE WILL NOW GO TO
OPPOSITION, IF ANY, IF THERE ARE
ANY HERE TO TESTIFY. SEEING
NONE. WE WILL GO TO PUBLIC
TESTIMONY FOR THOSE HERE IN THE
ROOM. SO FOR THOSE WHO ALL WANT
TO EXPRESS THEIR SUPPORT FOR
THIS BILL, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
SEEING NONE. OPPOSITION. SEEN IN
WILL NOW GO TO THE PHONES. MR
ROBERT, IF ANYONE WANTS TO
EXPRESS EITHER THE SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION TO A B 16 06, PLEASE
PROCEED. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. IF
YOU WISH TO EXPRESS YOUR SUPPORT
OR OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL,
PLEASE PRESS ONE THAN ZERO,
PRESS ONE AND ZERO. MR TEAR. IT
APPEARS WE HAVE NO ONE WHO
SIGNALED THAT THEY WISH TO
SPEAK, OKAY? WE'LL BRING IT BACK
TO THE COMMITTEE FOR ANY MEMBERS
HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THE BILL.
SEEING NO QUESTIONS, BUT WE HAVE
A MOTION AND A SECOND. I WILL
INVITE THE AUTHOR TO CLOSE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR CHAIRMAN
AND MEMBERS. UM I THINK THIS
PANDEMIC HAS TAUGHT US ALL MANY
LESSONS. UM AND ONE OF THOSE
LESSONS ARE CERTAINLY GLARING
RIGHT IN FRONT OF US, UM, BY
TAKING CARE OF OUR SENIORS, THIS
IS A WAY TO GO TO HELP THOSE
SENIORS. A SIMILAR BILL 16 Ó.
16. OH, SIX, UM, WILL MAKE
ONLINE DRIVING LICENSE, RENEWAL
AND REGISTRATION MORE CONVENIENT
FOR SO MANY CALIFORNIA HAS A LET
US TAKE CARE OF OUR COMMUNITY BY
REDUCING UNNECESSARY BURDENS. UM
AND I RESPECTFULLY ASK WHEN I
VOTE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH, UH, SECRETARY. PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL. MAYBE. 16 OH, SIX Dð
PASSES AMENDED AND RE REFERRED
TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. FRIEDMAN PHONE.
I, BERMAN BERMAN. I CARILLO
CARILLO DAVIES DAVIES. I GIBSON
GIBSON. I HEART I JACKSON
JACKSON. I CHOLERA OR I
LOWENTHAL AND THOUGHT I WIN WHEN
I SANCHEZ BENCHES I WALLACE
BOARD WICKS. THAT'S 11 VOTES
WILL LEAVE THE VOTE OPEN FOR
ABSENT MEMBERS. WE ARE AWAITING
SONNENBERG GARCIA. OR A B 16 OH,
NINE AND ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
GABRIEL FOR A B 16 14 IF THEY
CAN COME DOWN TO HEARING. TO BE
EFFICIENT WITH THEIR TIME WE
HAVE A NUMBER OF BILLS. WE HEARD
IN SEP AS A SUBCOMMITTEE, SO
WE'LL MOVE THROUGH THOSE BILLS.
SO WITH FILE ITEM ONE A B 73 DO
WE HAVE A MOTION SECOND? SECOND
MOTION AND SECOND. SECRETARY.
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. 73 DO YOU
PASS AND RE REFERRED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS.
FRIEDMAN FONG. PHªN KNOW BERMAN.
A B 73. BERMAN. AYE. ONE CARILLO
. AYE DAVIES DAVIES. NO, GIBSON.
GIBSON NOT VOTING ART. AYE
JACKSON JACKSON. I CHOLERA.
CHOLERA. I LOWENTHAL THOUGHT I
WIN. WHEN NOT VOTING. SANCHEZ
SANCHEZ KNOW WALLACE WARD WORD I
WICKS. 723 WILL HOLD THE VOTE
OPEN. UH MEMBERS WERE GOING
THROUGH THE BILLS THAT WERE HELD
IN AS A SUBCOMMITTEE, SO WE'RE
NOW MOVING TO FILE ITEM FOUR. A
B 2 56 BISON. REMEMBER DIXON?
MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL. MAYBE 256 IS DO PASS AND
RE REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. FRIEDMAN FONG
FROM MY BERMAN. FROM AN EYE
CARILLO. AYE, DAVIES. DAVIES. I
GIBSON GIBSON I HEART. PART II.
JACKSON JACKSON I CHOLERA.
CHOLERA I LOWENTHAL. I THOUGHT I
WIN WHEN I SANCHEZ SANCHEZ I
WALLACE BOARD. WORD. I WICKS.
THAT'S 12 VOTES GIVE THE VOTE
OPEN. WE'LL GO. WE'LL REOPEN THE
CONSENT FILE FOR THOSE WHO ARE
ABSENT. SECRETARY. PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL. FURMAN. BERMAN. AYE.
GIBSON GIBSON. AYE. LOWENTHAL I
WIN. WHEN I WALLACE WARD WORD I
WICKS. 13 0.
WE'LL GO. WE'LL GO DOWN THE FILE
AND LET MEMBERS ADD ON SO WE'LL
GO TO FILE ITEM THREE. BIGGEST
MR GIBSON ASKED VERY NICELY. UH
A B. 99 SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL, BERMAN. BERMAN. I
GIBSON. GIBSON I THOUGHT I WIN.
WHEN NOT VOTING. WALLACE. WORD
WORD I WICKS. 923 WILL LEAVE THE
VOTE OPEN. AH FILE ITEM FIVE A B
4 73. SECRETARY. PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL. MAYBE 4 73 DO YOU PASS AND
REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS BERMAN? HERMAN I
GIBSON. AND I WIN. WHEN I.
WALLACE WARD WARD, I WICKS.
THAT'S 13 VOTES WILL LEAVE THE
VOTE OPEN. PERHAPS SOME MEMBERS,
UH, FILE ITEM SEVEN. MAYBE. 10
12. MADAM SECRETARY. PLEASE
REOPEN THE ROLE. MAYBE 10 12 Dð
PASSES AMENDED AND RE REFERRED
TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. BERMAN. HERMAN I
CHOLERA. ALRIGHT, NOT VOTING.
WALLACE WARD. WORD. I WICKS.
OKAY ALL RIGHT. ARE YOU SURE? MR
BERMAN? YOU'RE GOOD, OKAY? 10 0
WILL LEAVE THE VOTE OPEN FOR
ABSENT MEMBERS. MOVING TO FILE
ITEM EIGHT. A B 14 47 SECRETARY
, PLEASE REOPEN THE ROLE 14 47
DO PASS AND WE REFERRED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS.
BERMAN. FOR A MAN I CHOLERA.
OVER I WALLACE WARD WARD, I
WICKS. 13 VOTES LEAVE THE VOTE
OPEN. THE CHAIRS BACK WOULD.
THANK YOU.
CAN YOU CALL THE ROLL ON MR
FONG'S VILLE? OH, OKAY? YEAH CAN
YOU GO BACK THROUGH WHEREVER YOU
LEFT OFF? YES, PLEASE. FILE ITEM
NUMBER NINE A. B 15. OH, FOUR DO
PASS AND WE REFER TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
CULEBRA. KALRA? AYE. WALLACE.
WALLACE NO AWARD. WORD. I WICKS.
10 4, AND FOR THAT BILL IS OUT.
WE'LL LEAVE THE ROLE OPEN,
PERHAPS, AND MEMBERS. MAYBE 15
25 FILE ITEM NUMBER 11, DO YOU
PASS AND RE REFERRED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
CHOLERA? CHOLERA? AYE. WALLACE.
WALLACE NO AWARD. WORD. I WICKS.
949 FOR THAT BILL IS OUT. WE'LL
LEAVE THE ROLE OPEN. LET'S DO
NOW WE'LL DO A B 501. MAYBE
FIVE. OH, ONE DO PASS AND
REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. FRIEDMAN
FRIEDMAN, NO. WALLACE. WALLACE I
AWARD WORD. NO WICKS. 4949 WILL
LEAVE THE ROLE OPEN FOR ABSENT
MEMBERS. TIME FOR 10. SORRY.
YEAH WE'RE WAITING FOR TWO
AUTHORS. WE WILL GIVE THEM
ANOTHER FEW MINUTES BEFORE WE
CLOSE THE ROLE.
ALRIGHT, LET'S DO A B 16 OH,
SIX. MAYBE 16 OH, SIX Dð PASSES
AMENDED AND RE REFERRED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS.
FRIEDMAN FRIEDMAN, I WALLACE
WALLACE I AWARD WARD. I YES. 14
VOTES. THAT BILL IS OUT AND WE
WILL LEAVE THE ROLL OPEN.
OKAY, WE'RE GONNA CALL THE ROLL
AGAIN FOR A B 2 56. MAYBE 2 56
IS DO YOU PASS AND RE REFERRED
TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. FRIEDMAN
FRIEDMAN, I WALLACE WALLACE. I
WICKS. YES, 14. 14 TO 0. THAT
BILL IS OUT AND WE WILL LEAVE
THE ROLL OPEN. AND YOU CALL A B
73, PLEASE. MAYBE 73. PASS AND
RE REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. FRIEDMAN
FRIEDMAN. AYE. WALLACE. WALLACE.
I WICKS. 93 93 THAT BILL IS OUT.
WE'LL LEAVE THE ROLE OPEN,
PERHAPS MEMBERS.
OKAY? WE'RE GOING TO OPEN THE
ROLE FOR MR WALLACE TO ADD ON
TWO BILLS. STARTING WITH THE
CONSENT CALENDAR. WALLACE
WALLACE. I WICKS 14 0 14. OH,
THE CONSENT CALENDARS ADOPTED. A
B 99 PASS, AND WE REFER TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS.
WALLACE. WALLACE. NO. BOARD.
WICKS. ALRIGHT, I HAD WARD 10.
OR 9 TO 4. 94 THAT BILL IS OUT.
WE'LL LEAVE THE ROLL OPEN. FILE
ITEM NUMBER 7 84 73 DO PASS AND
WE REFER TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. WALLACE.
WALLACE. I WICKS. ABOUT 14 0 14
0 THAT BUILD US UP. THAT WAS
FILE ITEM NUMBER FIVE. AND THE
VOTE. OKAY? FILE ITEM NUMBER
SEVEN A B 10 12 YOU PASS AS
AMENDED AND RE REFERRED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS.
WALLACE. WALLACE I WICKS 11 0 11
0. THAT BILL IS OUT. FILE ITEM
NUMBER EIGHT A. B 14 47 DO PASS
AND RE REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE
ON APPROPRIATIONS. WALLACE.
WELL, IT'S I WICKS. 14. THAT
BILL HAS 14 VOTES AND IS OUT.
SOME OF IT. I'M GOING TO REOPEN
THE ROLE FOR 4 73. PLEASE CALL
ROLL MR WALLACE REOPENING THE
ROLE FOR A B 4 73 WALLACE.
WALLACE IS NOT VOTING. WICKS.
WOULD HE CHANGED HIS VOTE? HAVE
TO MAKE SURE HEY, THAT IS 13 0.
THAT BILL IS OUT.
OKAY WE'RE GONNA NOW HERE A B
16. OH, NINE. MR GARCIA, YOU CAN
PROCEED WHEN YOU'RE READY.
HOPE YOU ALL ENJOYED THE BONDING
MOMENT. SORRY TO KEEP YOU
WAITING. I WILL BE BRIEF. MAYBE
16 OH, NINE CREATES A NEW $4 FEE
ADJUSTED ANNUALLY FOR THE
INFLATION WHICH AIR DISTRICTS
WOULD BE ABLE TO USE FOR THE
IMPLEMENTATION OF CLEAN AIR ACT
PROJECTS. RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
ABEL. THANK YOU IN TWO MINUTES
FOR YOUR WITNESS. PLEASE PRESS
THE THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON,
MADAM CHAIR AND COMMITTEE
MEMBERS. MY NAME IS IAIN
MACMILLAN. AND I'M AN ASSISTANT
DEPUTY EXECUTIVE OFFICER
PLANNING DIVISION AT SOUTH
COAST. UM D WHERE IN STRONG
SUPPORT OF A B 16 OH, NINE AND
HAPPY TO SERVE AS A CO SPONSOR
OF THIS BILL. FUNDING FROM THIS
BILL WILL BE USED BY AIR
DISTRICTS, CITIES AND COUNTIES
TO REDUCE AND MITIGATE EMISSIONS
FROM MOTOR VEHICLES AND OTHER
EFFORTS NECESSARY TO IMPLEMENT
THE CALIFORNIA CLEAN AIR ACT,
MEET STATE AND FEDERAL AIR
QUALITY STANDARDS AND REDUCE
TOXIC EMISSIONS. VEHICLE EXHAUST
EMISSIONS FROM CARS, TRUCKS AND
BUSSES ARE A MAJOR CONTRIBUTOR
TO UNHEALTHY LEVELS OF OZONE
PARTICULATE MATTER AND TOXIC
POLLUTION. THIS BILL WOULD
SUPPLEMENT THE CURRENT $4 FEE
FOR THE 27 66 PROGRAM THAT
REDUCES AIR POLLUTION FROM MOTOR
VEHICLES THAT HAS NOT BEEN
INCREASED IN OVER 30 YEARS AND
HAS BEEN SEVERELY DEVALUED BY
INFLATION OVER TIME. ADDITIONAL
FUNDING IS ESSENTIAL, ESPECIALLY
IN SOUTH COAST REGION OR ABOUT
17 MILLION CALIFORNIANS ARE
BREATHING SOME OF THE MOST
UNHEALTHY AIR IN THE NATION, AND
THE REGION IS HOME TO NEARLY 67%
OF THE STATE'S DISADVANTAGED
COMMUNITIES. WITHIN THE SOUTH
COAST REGION. STATE LAW REQUIRES
THAT ABC 27 66 FEES BE
DISTRIBUTED AS FOLLOWS 40% THE
CITIES AND COUNTIES 30% TO SOUTH
COAST ACCU ND FOR PLANNING,
MONITORING ENFORCEMENT AND
RESEARCH ACTIVITIES THAT REDUCE
MOBILE SOURCE EMISSIONS AND 30%
TO THE INDEPENDENT MOBILE
SOURCE. AIR POLLUTION REDUCTION
REVIEW COMMITTEE TO FUND CLEAN
AIR ACTIVITIES. THIS BILL WOULD
KEEP THAT SAME DISTRIBUTION
MAYBE 27 66 PROGRAM ALSO HAS A
PROVEN TRACK RECORD OF PROVIDING
MANY ADDITIONAL BENEFITS,
INCLUDING ENHANCING ZERO MISSION
INFRASTRUCTURE, INCREASING
TRANSPORTATION ALTERNATIVES,
RELIEVING TRAFFIC CONGESTION,
CONSERVING ENERGY RESOURCES AND
REDUCING GREENHOUSE GAS
EMISSIONS. THIS BILL WILL ALSO
PROVIDE SORELY NEEDED FUNDING TO
HELP PAY FOR RECENT CARD
REGULATIONS THAT WILL IMPOSE
BILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF COSTS ON
LOCAL JURISDICTIONS. WE STRONGLY
URGE YOUR SUPPORT FOR THIS
IMPORTANT, BILL. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. IS THERE ANOTHER
WITNESS AND SUPPORT YES. GOOD
AFTERNOON CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF
THE COMMITTEE. MY NAME'S ALAN
ABS. I'M THE LEGISLATIVE OFFICER
WITH THE BAY AREA AIR QUALITY
MANAGEMENT DISTRICT. ALSO IN
STRONG SUPPORT OF A B 16 OH NINE
AND PLEASED TO BE A CO SPONSOR.
MY COUNTERPART DID A GREAT JOB
OF PROVIDING SOME BASIC
INFORMATION ABOUT THE 27 66
PROGRAM. AND SO I'D LIKE TO TALK
A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE TWO
PROGRAMS IN THE BAY AREA THAT
UTILIZE THIS FUNDING AS AN
EXEMPLAR OF HOW THE FUNDING IS
USED AND HOW ADDITIONAL FUNDING
WOULD BE USED. WE HAVE TWO
PROGRAMS, THE COUNTY PROGRAM AND
THE TRANSPORTATION FUND FOR
CLEANING. AIR. UH AND COMBINED
THOSE TWO PROGRAMS PROVIDE ABOUT
$25 MILLION A YEAR IN THE BAY
AREA FOR EMISSION REDUCTIONS,
WHICH WOULD THEN BE DOUBLED
UNDER A B 16. OH, NINE. THAT THE
TRANSPORTATION FUND FOR CLEAN
AIR RECEIVED 60% OF THE
AVAILABLE FUNDS AND AWARDS
GRANTS TO PUBLIC AND PRIVATE
PROJECTS THAT INCLUDE TRUCK
REPLACEMENTS ZERO AND PARTIAL
ZERO EMISSION VEHICLES,
INCLUDING SUPPORTING OUR CLEAN
CARS FOR ALL PROGRAM. HYDROGEN
FUELING STATIONS. èC CHARGING
INFRASTRUCTURE VEHICLE SCRAPPAGE
PROGRAMS LAST MILE COMMUTE
COMMUTER CONNECTIONS, PILOT TRIP
REDUCTION PROGRAMS. BICYCLE
PARKING AND BIKE WAYS AND
INFRASTRUCTURE. THE COUNTY
PROGRAM RECEIVES THE REMAINING
40% AND WE USE THAT TO PROVIDE
FUNDING DIRECTLY TO THE NINE
COUNTIES IN THE BAY AREA REGION
DIRECTLY FOR VEHICLE
REPLACEMENTS FOR COUNTY AND
MUNICIPAL FLEETS. ALSO MORE EVEY
INFRASTRUCTURE. SCHOOL BUS
REPLACEMENT PROJECTS ADDITIONAL
CARL MOYER PROJECTS, BIKE
INFRASTRUCTURE AND TRANSIT
FEEDER SERVICES. ALL OUR
APPLICATIONS FROM THE TWO
PROGRAMS ARE REVIEWED FOR COST
EFFECTIVENESS AND PRIORITIZED TO
OCCUR IN DISADVANTAGED
COMMUNITIES OR A B 6 17
COMMUNITIES IN THE BAY AREA.
AND, OF COURSE, EVERY AT THE END
OF EVERY YEAR. WE DO AUDITS OF
ALL THE FUNDING THAT WE RECEIVE
AND PROVIDE. THROUGH BOTH
PROGRAMS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY
MEET, MEET THE REQUIREMENTS AND
STATUTE. UM SO WITH THAT I THANK
YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO
COMMENT, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO
ANSWERING YOUR QUESTIONS AND
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR I
VOTE. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE
IN THE ROOM WISHING TO TESTIFY
IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL? HI MY
NAME IS STANLEY, UM, WITH THE
CALIFORNIA AIR POLLUTION CONTROL
OFFICERS ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE
WISHING TO TESTIFY AND
OPPOSITION TO THE BILL? IS THERE
ANYONE IN NO. ONE IN THE ROOM
WANTING TO TESTIFY AN OPPOSITION
? OKAY. OPERATOR CAN YOU PLEASE
OPEN UP THE PHONE LINES TO EIGHT
FOR A B 16? OH, NINE. I WISH TO
SPEAK IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION.
PLEASE PRESS ONE THAN ZERO. AND
THERE IS NO ONE WHO SIGNALED.
PARDON ME. WE HAVE AT LEAST TWO
CALLERS WHO HAVE EXPRESSED THEIR
INTEREST IN SPEAKING SO JUST A
MOMENT, PLEASE. AND WE WILL NOW
GO TO LINE 21 9 21, YOUR LINE OF
SNOW OPEN HELLO FROM THE
ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH COALITION
IN SAN DIEGO, CALIFORNIA WE ARE
IN SUPPORT OF THIS BILL. THANK
YOU. LINE 29. GOOD EVENING. THIS
IS PAULA FOR BITS WITH THE SAN
DIEGO COUNTY AIR POLLUTION
CONTROL DISTRICT CALLING IN
SUPPORT OF A B 16. OH, NINE.
THANK YOU. THERE IS NO ONE ELSE
WHO SIGNALED THAT THEY WISH TO
SPEAK BACK TO THE COMMITTEE OR
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. UM I
HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK
THE AUTHOR FOR HIS LEADERSHIP IN
THIS AREA. UM HE'S BEEN A
CHAMPION FOR CLEAN AIR AND FOR
COMMUNITIES THAT ARE IMPACTED BY
AIR QUALITY. THE LEGISLATURE
PROVIDES A FUNDING FOR VARIETY
FROM A VARIETY OF SOURCES TO
HELP CLEAN UP THE STATE'S AIR,
INCLUDING THE CAP AND TRADE
REVENUE, AND IT'S ALSO LEVIED
FEES FOR THIS PURPOSE. THIS BILL
WOULD ADD ANOTHER $4 CHARGE THE
VEHICLE REGISTRATION FEE AND
CERTAIN AIR DISTRICTS. AND THE
LEGISLATURE IS ALSO CONSIDERING
THIS YEAR REAUTHORIZATION OF
OTHER VEHICLE AND VESSEL
REGISTRATION FEES TO FUND
STATEWIDE VEHICLE REPLACEMENT
INFRASTRUCTURE AND AIR QUALITY
IMPROVEMENTS. I THINK IT'S
IMPORTANT THAT WE DO THINK ABOUT
THE COMMUNAL IMPACT OF ALL OF
THESE VARIOUS FEES SPECIFIC TO
THIS BILL. I DO THINK THE STATE
COULD BENEFIT FROM ADDITIONAL
STATE OVERSIGHT OF THESE FUNDS
BY AIR DISTRICTS WHO
AUTOMATICALLY RECEIVE THE FUNDS
TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE
REALLY BEING USED FOR THE
BENEFITS THAT WE'RE HOPING THAT
THEY WILL. I DO JUST HAVE A
COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS FOR
THE AUTHOR. I'LL ROLL A COUPLE
OF THEM INTO ONE QUESTION. UM
FIRST, HOW MUCH REVENUE YOU
EXPECT THIS TO GENERATE
STATEWIDE AND WHAT THE STATEWIDE
DEMAND IS FOR THE FUNDS WHETHER
THE AIR DISTRICTS HAVE CLEARLY
DEMONSTRATED ADDITIONAL DEMAND
FOR THE MONEY THAT WOULD
NECESSITATE THIS KIND OF NEW
CHARGE. START WITH THAT. AND
WHILE YOU'RE ANSWERING THAT IF
YOU CAN TALK ABOUT SPECIFICALLY
WHAT KIND OF PROJECTS YOU
ENVISION BEING ABLE TO FUND THAT
YOU'RE RIGHT NOW UNABLE TO
BECAUSE OF LACK OF RESOURCES. SO
100 AND $30 MILLION IS WHAT WILL
BE GENERATED FROM THE $4
INCREASE. ALLEN WITH THE BAY
AREA QUALITY DISTRICT OUTLINED
THE LIST OF PROJECTS THAT WILL
BE A BENEFITING FROM THOSE
RESOURCES, AND I'D ASK ALAN IF
HE WANTS TO ELABORATE. ON ANY OF
THOSE PARTICULAR ONES. THANK YOU
FOR THAT QUESTION. SO WHEN I
WHEN I MADE MY COMMENT, THERE
WAS A LONG LIST OF PROJECTS THAT
WE FIND IN THE TRANSPORTATION
FUND FOR CLEAN AIR OR THE COUNTY
PROGRAM FUND. AND OF COURSE, YOU
HAVE TO REALIZE THAT THE BAY
AREA AIR DISTRICT IS ONE OF THE
LARGEST AIR DISTRICTS IN
CALIFORNIA. SO UH, WE RECEIVE A
PRETTY SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF
FUNDING. WHEN YOU LOOK AT SOME
OF THE SMALLER AIR DISTRICTS,
THEY MIGHT ACTUALLY ONLY GET
$100,000 OR $150,000. AND SO YOU
CAN'T REALLY SCALE SCALE DOWN
WHAT WE DO IN THE BAY AREA, TOO.
TO WHAT SOME OF THE SMALLER AIR
DISTRICTS DO. BUT I THINK YOU
KNOW ALL THE SAME. UM, THE, UH,
YOU KNOW. THERE'S SIGNIFICANT
REQUIREMENTS GOING FORWARD FOR
LIGHT DUTY PURCHASES, WHICH ARE
GOING TO AFFECT NOT ONLY PRIVATE
OWNERSHIP BUT PUBLIC OWNERSHIP
OF VEHICLES, AND SO THOSE WOULD
BE ELIGIBLE PROJECTS. UM
ADDITIONAL CARL MOYER PROGRAM
FUNDING, WHICH IS SCRAPPED AND
REPLACED FOR HEAVY DUTY. DIESEL
UH, VEHICLES, INCLUDING
TRACTORS. AND THEN E. V
INFRASTRUCTURE AND ANOTHER, UH,
YOU KNOW, COMMUTER BENEFITS
PROGRAMS, BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN
INFRASTRUCTURE SO CERTAINLY
WOULDN'T BE TO THAT, TO THE
EXTENT THAT WE CAN DO IT AT THE
BAY AREA, BUT THEY WOULD BE ABLE
TO, UH, GET SOME OF THOSE
SUCCESSES. MADAM CHAIR NIGHT. I
JUST ADD, YOU KNOW PROGRAMS OF
MUCH INTEREST TO ME THAT I'VE
SEEN, UM NOT RECEIVE THE
ADEQUATE FUNDING OR THE A B 617
COMMUNITIES. THAT HAVE BEEN
IDENTIFIED. OVER THE COURSE OF
THE LAST FEW YEARS, WE'VE ADDED
THE NUMBER OF COMMUNITIES BUT
WHAT WE HAVEN'T DONE IS
INCREASED THE AMOUNT OF MONEY
THAT WE'RE INVESTING INTO THOSE
PARTICULAR COMMUNITIES. WELL I
DO. REALLY UH UM I WANT TO
COMMEND YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP
ON THESE ISSUES FOR A NUMBER OF
YEARS. YOU BROUGHT ME OUT TO
YOUR DISTRICT TO SEE A LOT OF
THE IMPACTS ON AIR QUALITY FROM
VARIETY OF SOURCES. SO I KNOW
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU WORK
ON ON BEHALF OF YOUR COMMUNITY
EVERY DAY. I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT
THE BILL TODAY. DO WE HAVE
EMOTION? OH, DID YOU WANT TO
CLOSE? I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU
FOR WORKING ON THIS BILL. AND MY
APOLOGIES TO KEEP THE COMMITTEE
WAITING RESPECTFULLY AS FREE. I
VOTE WE HAVE A MOTION AND A
SECOND ROLL CALL, PLEASE. MAYBE
16. OH, NINE DO PASS AND WE
REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. FRIEDMAN
FRIEDMAN. I PHªN UM NO BERMAN
NICE CARILLO. VÚI DAVIES BABIES?
NO, GIBSON. AND I HEART. ALRIGHT
I JACKSON JACKSON I CHOLERA
ALRIGHT, I LOWENTHAL NO ONE
THOUGHT I WIN. WHEN NOT VOTING
BRANCHES. SANCHEZ KNOW WALLACE.
WHILE IT'S NOT VOTING WARD WORD.
I WICKS. NINE. 93 THAT BILL IS
OUT. WE'LL LEAVE THE ROLE OPEN
FOR ABSENT MEMBERS AND HERE TO
PHASE OUT OUR COMMITTEE HEARING
IS, UH, MR GABRIEL WAS A B 16
14.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS. I WANT TO START TODAY
BY ACCEPTING THE COMMITTEE
AMENDMENTS. I WANT TO THANK YOU
AND YOUR STAFF FOR YOUR
THOUGHTFUL FEEDBACK AND
ASSISTANCE. VERY BRIEFLY. WE
HAVE A NUMBER OF BILLS THIS
YEAR, LOOKING AT HOW WE MIGHT
INCREASE THE ELECTRIC CHARGING
INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE STATE. UM
THIS IS ONE OF A VERY MODEST
PIECE OF THAT PUZZLE, WHICH IS
TO THINK ABOUT HOW WHAT WE MIGHT
DO WITH OUR GAS STATIONS AND HOW
WE MIGHT UM, TRANSITION, SOME OF
THEM TO BE ELECTRIC VEHICLES
CHARGING STATIONS. OBVIOUSLY A
LOT OF THINGS TO CONSIDER, AS WE
MOVE TOWARDS MORE ZERO EMISSIONS
VEHICLES AS WE MOVE TOWARDS THE
POINT WHERE THE STATE WILL NO
LONGER SELL INTERNAL COMBUSTION
ENGINES AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO
USE ALL THESE GAS STATIONS AND
USE THAT LAND SO IMPORTANT
THINGS FOR US TO START THINKING
ABOUT A LOT OF THINGS FOR US TO
CONSIDER. WE THINK THAT DOING A
DOING THESE STUDIES HERE WILL BE
AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF THE PUZZLE
AND WITHOUT RESPECTFULLY REQUEST
YOUR I VOTE. THANK YOU. IS THERE
ANYONE HERE IN THE ROOM WISHING
TO TESTIFY AND SUPPORT OF A B 16
14? SEEING NONE. IS THERE
ANYBODY HERE TO TESTIFY IN
OPPOSITION TO 16 14? SEEING
NONE. OPERATOR CAN YOU PLEASE
OPEN UP THE PHONE LINES FOR
TESTIMONY FOR AND AGAINST A B 16
14? TO WISH TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT
OR OPPOSITION. PLEASE PRESS ONE
AND ZERO AT THIS TIME. WE HAVE
LINE 73 YOUR LINES NOW OPEN
MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS, JOHN WINGER
ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
FUELS AND CONVENIENCE ALLIANCE
WE HAVE OPPOSED UNLESS AMENDED
POSITION ON THE BILL RIGHT NOW,
BUT LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING
CONVERSATIONS WITH THE AUTHOR.
UM THERE'S A LOT OF BARRIERS TO
ENTRY WHEN IT COMES TO BE
CHARGING FOR GAS STATIONS. AND
SO WE WANT TO BE A PART OF THAT
CONVERSATION, BUT ALSO WANT TO
MAKE SURE THAT, UH, OTHER
ALTERNATIVE FUELS AND OTHER
THINGS CAN BE MADE AVAILABLE AS
WELL. BUT I APPRECIATE THE TIME
AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO TALKING
TO THE OFFER MORE. THERE IS NO
ONE ELSE WHO SIGNALED THAT THEY
WISH TO SPEAK IN THE COMMITTEE
WISH TO SPEAK. SEEING THAT I
WANT TO THANK YOU FOR WORKING IN
THIS ISSUE. I WANT TO THANK YOU
FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP. THIS IS A
REALLY IMPORTANT PART OF THE
PIECE OF THE PUZZLE AS YOU SAID,
AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR
WORKING WITH THE COMMITTEE AND
ACCEPTING THE AMENDMENTS. I'M
VERY HAPPY TO SUPPORT YOUR BILL
TODAY. WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE
JUST RESPECTFULLY QUESTION I
VOTE. OKAY. CAN WE DO WE HAVE A
MOTION? MR BERMAN, SECOND AND MR
CREAGH MOVED. ROLL CALL, PLEASE
. MAYBE 16 14 Dð PASSES AMENDED
AND RE REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE
ON APPROPRIATIONS. FRIEDMAN
FRIEDMAN. I PHªN PHªN KNOW
BERMAN IN I CARILLO RELY DAVIES
BABIES. NO, GIBSON. GIBSON I
HEART. AYE. JACKSON JACKSON. I
CHOLERA. CHOLERA I LOWENTHAL. I
WIN WHEN I SANCHEZ SANCHEZ KNOW
WALLACE WHILE IT'S NO WARD WARD
AYE. WICKS WICKS, I 11 4. 11 TO
4. THAT BILL IS OUT. THANK YOU.
OKAY LET'S UH GO THROUGH THE
ROLE TO ALLOW THE ABSENT MEMBERS
TO ADD ON OKAY, THIS IS THE
CONSENT CALENDAR, WICKS. WICKS I
15 OH, NO, THE CONSENT CALENDARS
ADOPTED. THIS IS A B 73 WICKS
WICKS I THREE THAT BILL IS OUT.
MAYBE 99 WEEKS. WEEKS I BEFORE
THAT BILL IS OUT. MAYBE 2 56
WEEKS. I 15 0. THAT BILL IS OUT.
MAYBE 473 WEEKS, WEEKS. I 14 14
0 THAT BUILDERS OUT. MAYBE 10 12
WEEKS. I WELL, 20 THAT BILL IS
OUT. MAYBE 14 47 WEEKS. AYE. 15
0. THAT BILL IS OUT. MAYBE. 15
OH, FOUR WEEKS. WICKS. I 11 FOR
THAT BILL IS OUT. MAYBE 15 25
WEEKS. WORKS. I BILL IS OUT.
MAYBE 16 OH, NINE WEEKS. I THREE
THAT BILL IS OUT. MAYBE 16 14.
YOU'VE VOTED ON THAT ONE. A B
FIVE. OH, ONE WEEKS. WEEKS. UM
MAYBE 501 IS VINCE FONG. MY
APOLOGIES. THAT WAS A NO, NO. 4
TO 11 THAT BILL FAILS.
RECONSIDERATION IS GRANTED A B
16 OH, SIX WEEKS WEEKS. I 15 TO
0. THAT BILL IS OUT. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. THE MEETING IS
ADJOURNED. THANK YOU. YOU'RE
PERFECT. SORRY. I HOPE HE WASN'T
PRESUMPTUOUS TO STAY HERE AND
NOW, YOU KNOW.