YEAH. GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYBODY
AND WELCOME TO THIS HEARING OF
THE ASSEMBLY COMMITTEE ON
REVENUE AND TAXATION. AH BEFORE
WE TAKE UP BILLS ON OUR AGENDA
TODAY, I WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE
IN THE AUDIENCE AND MEMBERS OF
THE PUBLIC THAT THE COMMITTEE IS
NOT ACCEPTING REMOTE TESTIMONY.
WE'RE ACCEPTING WRITTEN
TESTIMONY THROUGH THE POSITION
LETTER, UM, PORTAL ON THE
COMMITTEE'S WEBSITE. PLEASE MAKE
SURE TO SUBMIT LETTERS AT LEAST
ONE WEEK PRIOR AS YOU ARE AWARE
WE HAVE RENTED REINSTITUTED. OUR
SUSPENSE FILE THIS YEAR BUILDS
WITH THE FISCAL IMPACT OF PLUS
OR MINUS 150,000 WILL BE
REFERRED TO THE SENTENCE
SUSPENSE FILE AT THE END OF THE
PRESENTATION. WE WILL BEGIN
TODAY'S HEARING BY TAKING UP THE
BILLS UNDER THE REGULAR ORDER OF
BUSINESS BEFORE TAKING UP THE
SUSPENSE FILED Tð. FOR OUR TAX
LEVY MEASURES. WITH THIS IN
MIND. WE ONLY HAVE ONE BILL ON
TODAY'S AGENDA, WHICH WILL BE
ELIGIBLE FOR A VOTE IN THE
REGULAR ORDER OF BUSINESS, AND
THAT IS FILE ITEM FOR A B 12 56
WOULD ADDITIONALLY, FILE ITEM
ONE A. B 15 53 BY ASSEMBLY MILL
MEMBER LOWENTHAL HAS BEEN PULLED
FROM THIS HEARING BY THE AUTHOR.
AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE A
QUORUM. MISS HIGHLAND. PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL, IRWIN. HERE IN
HERE. WALLACE WALLACE. HERE
VEINS HERE. GRAYSON GRAYSON
HERE, PACHECO. JIM PATTERSON.
JIM PATTERSON HERE PETRIE-NORRIS
THREE OF US TÂM. YEAH I HEAR
VALENCIA. LET'S SEE HOW HERE
SUBURB WE HAVE A QUORUM. ALRIGHT
QUORUM HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED AND
WE WILL BEGIN BY TAKING UP FILE
ITEMS, TOO. A B 9 26 BY ASSEMBLY
MEMBER HAPPENED.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S. PLEASE BEGIN.
WHEN YOU ARE READY. DEAR SIR.
SEEN BETTER DAYS. THANK YOU.
CHAIR AND MEMBERS. I'D LIKE TO
THANK THE COMMITTEE FOR WORKING
WITH MY OFFICE. ON THIS BILL AND
I'LL BE ACCEPTING THE
AMENDMENTS. UM OUR LABOR
SHORTAGE IN HOUSING CRISIS ARE
INTIMATELY LINKED. THE
INCREASING COST OF HOUSING HAS
PUSHED WORKERS OUTSIDE OF CITY
CENTERS AND AWAY FROM JOB HUBS.
RESEARCHERS HAVE LABELED THIS
PHENOMENON SPECIAL MISMATCH,
RECTIFYING THIS MISMATCH BY
HOUSING WORKERS NEAR JOBS WILL
REQUIRE A MONUMENTAL EFFORT THAT
HAS NO SINGLE SILVER BULLET. A B
96 IS JUST ONE STEP TOWARDS
SOLVING THIS PUZZLE. THIS BILL
WILL INCENTIVIZE EMPLOYERS TO
TAKE AN ACTIVE ROLE IN
ADDRESSING THE HOUSING CRISIS
UNDER THIS MEASURE AND EMPLOYER
COULD CLAIM AN INCOME TAX CREDIT
FOR THE VALUE OF LAND OR
PROPERTY DONATED TO A NON PROFIT
FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF
AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 25% OF THE
UNITS ON THE DONATED LAND WILL
BE MADE AVAILABLE TO LOW INCOME
RESIDENTS WITH A PREFERENCE FOR
EMPLOYEES OF THE DONOR. WE HAVE
SEEN A RISE IN THE NUMBER OF
COMPANIES CONSTRUCTING HOUSING.
META RECENTLY ANNOUNCED THE
CONSTRUCTION OF 1700 UNITS IN
MENTAL PARK, WITH HUNDREDS OF
UNITS AVAILABLE FOR LOW INCOME
FOLKS. EMPLOYEE HOUSING IS AN
INVESTMENT FOR OR FOR A COMPANY
. THE COST OF THE CONSTRUCTION
IS OFFSET BY SAVINGS AND
EMPLOYEE RETENTION. 80 96 WILL
INCENTIVIZE MORE COMPANIES TO
MAKE THE INVESTMENT AND
AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND I THINK
THAT SAYS IT ALL. UM, WITH ME
TODAY. IS DEBRA CARLTON WITH THE
CALIFORNIA APARTMENT
ASSOCIATION. GOOD TALKING ABOUT
RIGHT? I'M SURE IT'LL STOP. OKAY
WE'LL TALK FAST. DEBORAH CARLSON
WITH THE CALIFORNIA APARTMENT
ASSOCIATION HERE IN SUPPORT OF A
B 9 TO 6 IN CALIFORNIA. TODAY WE
CREATE THREE NEW JOBS FOR
EVERYONE UNIT OF HOUSING THAT WE
CONSTRUCT. WE BELIEVE THAT THIS
BILL WILL CERTAINLY MOVE THE
NEEDLE. ON THIS TOPIC AND TAX
CREDITS ARE VERY POSITIVE TOOL
TO INCENTIVIZE THE MARKET FOR
THESE REASONS. WE RESPECTFULLY
ASK FOR YOUR IBO TODAY.
OKAY? OR SOMETHING LIKE HIM, K¾T
TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY.
YEAH.
YEAH, WE HAVE TO FIND WE DO HAVE
TO FIND ANOTHER.
THEY SAID AS LONG AS EVERYONE
SPEAKS INTO THE MICROPHONE
BALCONY WAS TAKEN HERE ON THE
TELEPHONE. BUT WE CAN'T HEAR I
UNDERSTAND. K¾T RIGHT. TO GO
CHECK. NO. NOTHING.
OKAY, BUT. OKAY ALL RIGHT.
APPARENTLY THE ONLY SOLUTION
THAT THEY'RE GIVING US RIGHT NOW
IS TO SPEAK LOUDLY ON THE
MICROPHONE. I APOLOGIZE. I'M
QUITE CAPABLE OF SPEAKING LOUDLY
CHAIR. NO PROBLEM. NO PROBLEM,
SO I HAVE NO FURTHER WITNESSES
OTHER THAN HIS CARLTON, OKAY? DO
WE HAVE ANY WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION? QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS FROM THE COMMITTEE IF
ANYBODY HEARD THE TESTIMONY. ALL
RIGHT. UM SO ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE? YES.
THANK YOU. CHAIR THE COMMITTEE.
HOUSE ANALYSIS OUTLINES THREE
AREAS WHERE WE CAN IMPROVE THE
BILL TIMING. CERTIFICATION AND
PERFORMANCE INDICATORS. I JUST
WANT YOU TO KNOW I WILL CONTINUE
TO WORK WITH THE COMMITTEE TO
REFINE THE BILL IN THESE
PARTICULAR AREAS AS THIS MEASURE
MOVES FORWARD, UM AND I JUST
THANK YOU RESPECTFULLY REQUEST.
AND I VOTE. ALRIGHT THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. AND WITHOUT OBJECTION
. THIS THIS BILL WILL BE MOVED
TO THE SUSPENSE FILE. THANK YOU.
CHAIR. HAVE A GOOD TIME. THANKS.
ALRIGHT FILE ITEM THREE
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S, WOULD Ó WARD.
NOT HERE. WHAT ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
WOULD. SO THIS IS HIGHLIGHTED
FOR A B 12 56. AND THIS IS A
VOTE ITEM. I HOPE YOU CAN HEAR
MY TESTIMONY SO YOU CAN VOTE ON
MY BILL. THANK YOU. CHAIR AND
MEMBERS, A B 12 56 WOULD
AUTHORIZE THE HUMBOLDT COUNTY
BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO IMPOSE A
TRANSACTIONS AND USE TAX FOR THE
SUPPORT OF COUNTYWIDE
TRANSPORTATION PROGRAMS AT A
RATE OF NO MORE THAN 1% IF AN
ORDINANCE PROPOSING THE TAX IS
APPROVED BY THE VOTERS EARLIER
THIS YEAR, HUMBOLDT COUNTY'S
BORDER SUPERVISORS VOTED TO
APPROVE A RESOLUTION. ASKING THE
STATE LEGISLATURE TO PASS A BILL
ALLOWING THE COUNTY TO PUT A
PROPOSED ROADS TAX ON THE ABOUT
ON THE LOCAL BALLOT IF APPROVED
BY VOTERS. WOULD SURPASS. THE 2%
LIMIT. CALIFORNIA HAS ON
COMBINED LOCAL TRANSPORTATION
AND USE TAXES. JUST WAIT A
MINUTE. MOVE THE BILL. I HAVE A
WITNESS HERE WHO MIGHT WANT TO
JUST WAVE OR SOMETHING. THAT'S A
SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S GRAYSON AND A
SECOND BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S OF
VALENCIA. AND THIS IS A, UH, THE
MOTION IS PASSED TO THE ASSEMBLY
FLOOR. AND THIS HIGHLAND, PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL. OH, WE HAVE. OH
I'M SORRY. WITNESSES AND
OPPOSITION. WITNESSES AND
SUPPORT. AND KAREN LAYING OFF OF
THIS HUMBLE COUNTY BOARD OF
SURPRISES AND SUPPORT. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. AND THEN
WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION.
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. ALRIGHT,
SO NOW WE'LL. GO BACK MOTION BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S GRACE AND
SECOND BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
VALENCIA MOTIONS DO PASS THE
ASSEMBLY FLOOR OF THIS HIGHLAND
POLICE CALLED ON A B 12 56. THE
MOTION IS DO PASS. IRWIN IRWIN,
I WALLACE. WALLACE. NO, BAINES.
PANES. AYE. GRAYSON I PACHECO.
CHICO I JOKE, PATTERSON. I MEAN,
JIM PATTERSON. JIM PATTERSON,
NOT VOTING. PETRIE-NORRIS
PETRIE-NORRIS. AYE, RIVAS. TO
TÂM NÓ. VALENCIA VALENCIA I
SUBURB AYE. SO THAT YOU. THAT
BILL PASSES 7 TO 2. WE ARE GOING
TO DO ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S FORD AND
THEN TAKE A BREAK AND MOVE TO,
UM, 1100. WE WILL TAKE A OVER
THAT BILL PASSES. THANK YOU FREE
TO MOVE ON, OKAY?
SO I SUDDENLY MEMBER WORK. WE
ARE GOING TO MOVE TO 1100. YOU
CAN EITHER, UM, PRESENT THE BILL
RIGHT NOW OR WE ARE GOING TO
TAKE A BREAK UNTIL 3 15 AS WE
MOVE OVER. WOULD YOU PREFER TO
PRESENT THE BILL THEN OR LIKE TO
BRIEFLY PRESENT THE BILL? MY
CONTROLLER IS HERE AS WELL AND
WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT
OF THE BILL WOULD BE HAPPY TO
MOVE QUICKLY. YOU CAN BRIEFLY
PRESENT THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
VIOLATED 3 80 84. THANK YOU,
MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS FIRST.
I'D LIKE TO ACCEPT THE
COMMITTEE'S AMENDMENTS OUTLINED
ON PAGE NINE OF THE COMMITTEE
ANALYSIS AND AIR STAND THAT WE
WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH OUR
COMMITTEE ON ASPECTS OF THIS
MEASURE UNDER EXISTING LAW,
AFFORDABLE RENTAL HOUSING, OWNED
BY A NON PROFIT ENTITY IS
CONSIDERED A CHARITABLE USE, AND
IT'S EXEMPT FROM BASIC PROPERTY
TAXES. THE WELFARE EXEMPTION IS
INTENDED TO REDUCE THE COST OF
DEVELOPING AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
BY A BEATING BASIC PROPERTY TAX
PAYMENTS DUE TO EXISTING LAW.
AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPERS
STRUGGLE TO UTILIZE THIS
EXEMPTION TO ITS FULLEST. A B 84
AS PROPOSED TO BE AMENDED, SEEKS
TO IMPROVE THE IMPLEMENTATION OF
THE WELFARE EXEMPTION TO ALLOW
AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPERS TO
MAXIMIZE THOSE SAVINGS. AND
SPECIFICALLY, THIS BILL IS
AMENDED. DOES TWO THINGS IT
AUTHORIZES? FIVE OH ONE C THREE
BONDS AS A FORM OF FINANCING
THAT MAKES THE PROPERTY ELIGIBLE
FOR THE WELFARE EXEMPTION AND
EXPANDS THE EXEMPTION TO ALL
AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND EXTENDS
AN EXISTING RULE. THE TENANTS
WHOSE INCOMES INCREASE AFTER
INITIAL OCCUPANCY. THIS MEASURE
WILL ALLOW NONPROFIT, AFFORDABLE
HOUSING DEVELOPERS TO HAVE
GREATER FLEXIBILITY WITH THEIR
LIMITED FINANCIAL RESOURCES. I
ALSO WANT TO THANK THE
CALIFORNIA SENSORS ASSOCIATION
FURTHER CONTINUED DIALOGUE ON
THIS BILL. WE WILL CONTINUE TO
MEET SHOULD THIS PAST COMMITTEE
AND DISCUSS SPECIFIC AMENDMENTS
IN THE HOPE OF ADDRESSING THEIR
CONCERNS. I'D LIKE TO PRESENT MY
WITNESSES AND SUPPORTED THIS
BILL, OUR STATE COMPTROLLER
MALIA COHEN, AND MARC STIVERS,
REPRESENTING THE CALIFORNIA
HOUSING PARTNERSHIP CORPORATION.
IT'S GOING. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. GOOD AFTERNOON,
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. GOOD
ADAMS. THANK YOU. IT'S GOOD TO
SEE YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR
GIVING ME A FEW MOMENTS TO JUST
TO COME AND TESTIFY WITH YOU
THIS AFTERNOON. I'M CALIFORNIA
STATE COMPTROLLER. MANY OF YOU
KNOW, MY NAME IS MALIA COHEN AND
I'M PLEASED TO CO SPONSOR A B 84
, WHICH WILL REDUCE THE COST OF
AFFORDABLE HOUSING CONSTRUCTION
BY IMPROVING THE IMPLEMENTATION
OF THE WELFARE PROPERTY TAX
EXEMPTION. YEAH AND AS
CALIFORNIA'S CHIEF FISCAL
OFFICER AND A BOARD MEMBER OF
BOTH THE CALIFORNIA UM TAX
CREDIT TAX CREDIT ALLOCATION
COMMITTEE AND THE DEBT LIMIT
ALLOCATION COMMITTEE, I AM
ACUTELY AWARE OF THE CHALLENGES
SURROUNDING FINANCING OF
AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND I THINK
THAT WE ARE ALL IN AGREEMENT.
WE'VE SEEN THIS ACROSS THE
ENTIRE STATE OF CALIFORNIA THAT
WE ARE IN A HOUSING CRISIS. AND
IN ADDITION TO THIS HOUSING
CRISIS, WE ARE IN A HOMELESS
CRISIS AND QUITE HONESTLY TO PUT
IT. FRANKLY WE ARE HERE. UM WE
HAVE LIMITED RESOURCES THAT ARE
AVAILABLE TO BUILD AFFORDABLE
HOUSING. UM SO IT MAKES SENSE TO
DO ALL THAT WE CAN TO REDUCE THE
DEVELOPED TO REDUCE DEVELOPMENT
COSTS. THE CALIFORNIA
CONSTITUTION EXEMPT NONPROFIT
OAN AFFORDABLE RENTAL HOUSING
FROM PAYING PROPERTY TAXES. AND
AS CHAIR OF THE STATE BOARD OF
EQUALIZATION IS FORMER CHAIR OF
THE BOARD OF EQUALIZATION. I
CONVENED A SERIES OF HEARINGS
RELATED TO PROPERTY TAX
ABATEMENTS AND EXEMPTIONS AND
UTILIZING THEM TO FACILITATE
AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN NATIVE
CALIFORNIA. ONE THING THAT I
HEARD CONSISTENTLY THROUGHOUT
THESE HEARINGS, UM WAS THE NEED
FOR A MORE EFFECTIVE
IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGY AROUND
THE WELFARE A TAX EXEMPTION AND
IT WAS EMPHASIZED BY MOST COUNTY
ASSESSOR'S, UM. THEN THAT THEY
DO NOT APPROVE THE WELFARE
EXEMPTION TAX BACK TO DATE, THE
PROPERTY IS DEEDED RESTRICTED
FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING INSTEAD
ONLY AT THE START OF
CONSTRUCTION.
WAS THAT ON PURPOSE? NO, NO, WE
IT WAS NOT ON PURPOSE. WE'RE
TRYING TO. WE'RE WE ARE TRYING
TO KEEP THINGS QUIET. PLEASE
KEEP GOING. ADDITIONALLY, OWNERS
WHO APPLY FOR THE EXEMPTION MUST
PAY THE TAXES UP FRONT AND THEY
ARE SEEKING REIMBURSEMENT. UM
AFTER THE APPROVAL PROCESS,
WHICH IS ACTUALLY REQUIRING THEM
TO BORROW AND FLOAT THOUSANDS OF
DOLLARS IN TAX PAYMENTS FOR ANY
LATER TIME AS LONG AS UP TO
THREE YEARS, AND AS YOU CAN
IMAGINE, THAT'S INCREDIBLY
BURDENSOME FOR THE AFFORDABLE
HOUSING DEVELOPERS. SO IF WE
WERE TO PASS HB 80 FOR THIS WILL
HELP ADDRESS A LOT OF THE IN
EFFICIENCIES IN REDUCING THE
COST OF DEVELOPING AFFORDABLE
HOUSING. AND I ALSO WANT JUST
WANT TO NOTE THAT I'M FULLY
COMMITTED TO WORKING WITH ANY
AND ALL OF THE OPPOSITION TO
ENSURE THAT THIS BILL IS A
WORKABLE FOR ALL AND I ALSO WANT
TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE ASSESSORS.
THE ASSESSORS ASSOCIATION HAVE
BEEN INCREDIBLE PARTNERS AND AS
WE CONTINUE TO MOVE THIS FORWARD
. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRWOMAN
MARKS DIVERS WITH THE CALIFORNIA
HOUSING PARTNERSHIP AND WE ARE
CONSTANTLY LOOKING FOR WAYS TO
MAKE REDUCED THE COST OF
DEVELOPING AFFORDABLE HOUSING
AND BE MORE EFFICIENT WITH STATE
PROGRAMS. AND THIS BILL DOES
THAT. SO I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY
TECHNICAL QUESTIONS AND WE LOOK
FORWARD TO YOUR QUICK WE LIKE
THAT. ALRIGHT UM DO WE HAVE ANY
OTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT?
JULIE SNYDER, REPRESENTING
METROPOLITAN TRANSPORTATION
COMMISSION AND ASSOCIATION OF
BAY AREA GOVERNMENTS. WE REALLY
APPRECIATE THE COMMITTEE'S
WILLINGNESS TO ALLOW THE
DISCUSSIONS TO CONTINUE ON THE
REALLY CORE PIECE OF THE BILL
THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE MOVE
FORWARD WHEN THE BILLS AMENDED
AGAIN. THANK YOU. JENNIFER
ADAMANT TO WITH THE CALIFORNIA
HOUSING CONSORTIUM AND SUPPORT
OF A B 84. BRIAN SAP ON BEHALF
OF OUR CLIENTS, FIELD, SAID.
LESAR SAN DIEGO HOUSING
COMMISSION AND SPUR AND SUPPORT
THANK YOU. DEBORAH CARLTON WITH
THE CALIFORNIA APARTMENT
ASSOCIATION AND SUPPORT THANK
YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION?
CHAIR IRWIN AND VICE CHAIR BY
SHARE WALLACE AND COMMITTEE
MEMBERS. MY NAME IS LARRY STONE
, AND I'M THE SANTA CLARA COUNTY
ASSESSOR. AND I'M HERE TO
EXPRESS MY OPPOSITION TO A B 84.
THE COMMITTEE ANALYSIS AGREES
THAT A B 84 PROPOSALS CHANGES TO
THE WELFARE EXEMPTION, WHICH WAS
ENACTED IN 1944 BY THE WAY THAT
CONFLICTS WITH THE DECADES OF
CASE LAW AND THE CALIFORNIA
REVENUE AND TAXATION CODE, AND,
IF ENACTED, WILL FUNDAMENTALLY
CHANGE THE PROPERTY TAX LAW,
RESULTING IN LOSS OF REVENUE.
TWO SCHOOLS AND MUNICIPALITIES.
THE CLASS OF TWO SHIN
STIPULATES, AND THE COURTS HAVE
HELD AND PROPERTY IS ONLY
ELIGIBLE FOR THE WELFARE
EXEMPTION WHEN CONSTRUCTION
BEGINS NOT UPON ACQUISITION, AS
THE BILL PROPOSES, EXEMPTING
VACANT LAND REMAINS OR IS ADDED
TO THIS BILL LATER, IT IS
CLEARLY UNCONSTITUTIONAL. WITH
THE PROP 8 98. REQUIREMENT TO
BACKFILL REVENUE FROM SCHOOLS TO
STAFF ANALYSIS. ACTS ASK, AND I
QUOTE SHOULD THE STATE COVER THE
COST OF UNDEVELOPED LAND THAT
DOES NOT CONTAIN OR IS NOT NOT
CONSTRUCTING AFFORDABLE UNITS. I
CERTAINLY HOPE NOT. A B A B FOR
PROPOSES AN INCREASE IN
HOUSEHOLD AM I FROM 80% TO UP TO
140% WITHOUT COMPLIANCE
OVERSIGHT, INCLUDING INDEPENDENT
TENANT INCOME VERIFICATION
REQUIRED FOR TRADITIONAL LOW
INCOME TAX CREDIT PROJECTS. THE
COMMITTEE ANALYSIS AGREES WITH
OUR POSITION THAT THE A B A. B
FOR PRESUMPTION OF ELIGIBILITY
OF THE WELFARE EXEMPTION IS IN
CONFLICT WITH THE TAX CODE IN
CASE LAW. AND SHOULD BE STRUCK
FROM THE BILL COMPLETELY AS A
SANTA CLARA COUNTY ASSESSOR. I A
PLEA. I APPRECIATE THE COMMITTEE
STAFF ANALYSIS, BUT STAND FIRM
ON OUR POSITION TO OPPOSE A B 84
, THE CALIFORNIA ASSESSORS
ASSOCIATION OFFICIAL POSITION IS
OPPOSED UNLESS AMENDED, AND THE
AMENDMENTS ARE ALONG THE LINE OF
MY TESTIMONY. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER
WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION? THANK
YOU. MADAM CHAIR ROB GIRLS
CONCERT WITH THE CALIFORNIA
TESTER ASSOCIATION. WE ARE
IMPOSING ON CEMENTED, BUT WE'VE
HAD VERY PRODUCTIVE
CONVERSATIONS REALLY APPRECIATE
THE AUTHOR AND THE SPONSORS FOR
WORKING WITH THIS CONSISTENTLY
AND WE'RE CONFIDENT THAT AS IT
PROGRESSES, WE HOPE TO GET TO
PLACE TO NEUTRALITY OR MAYBE
EVEN SUPPORT IN THE FUTURE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD
AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS JESSICA SANCHEZ WITH THE
LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES. WE
ARE ALSO IN RESPECTFUL
OPPOSITION TO THE BILL. THE
LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES
SUPPORTS THE DEVELOPMENT OF
AFFORDABLE HOUSING STATEWIDE.
AND THOUGH WE AGREE THAT THE
INTENT OF THE BILL IS LAUDABLE,
WE HAVE RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION
AND GREAT CONCERN WITH ANY
MEASURES THAT REDUCE THE
PROPERTY TAX REVENUES TO LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS WOULD BE A NEGATIVE
FISCAL IMPACT TO CALIFORNIA
CITIES. UNFORTUNATELY SO WE LOOK
FORWARD TO HAVING FURTHER
CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE IMPACT
OF THIS BILL AND THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU
AND I PERHAPS THE AUTHOR WANTS
TO MENTION THE AMENDMENTS THAT
WERE TAKEN TO REMOVE WHAT
PORTION OF THE BILL WAS REMOVED.
THAT'S CORRECT, MADAM CHAIR. AS
I STATED MY OPEN. WE INTEND TO
ACCEPT THE COMMITTEE'S
AMENDMENTS. I'M SORRY IT WAS
DIFFICULT TO HERE AND HERE, BUT
WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH YOU.
COMMITTEE STAFF AND OTHER
STAKEHOLDERS IN DECIDING SHOULD
THIS BILL MOVE FORWARD? WHAT WE
CAN DO TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO
IMPROVE ON VERY LEGITIMATE AND
CONSTITUTIONAL QUESTIONS THAT
NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.
SPECIFICALLY THE PORTION ABOUT
THE VACANT LAND WAS STRUCK FROM
THE BILL. THAT'S CORRECT. UM ARE
RIGHT. AND DO WE HAVE QUESTIONS
FROM THE COMMITTEE? NO QUESTIONS
FROM THE COMMITTEE.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S WOULD YOU LIKE
TO CLOSE? THANK YOU MEMBERS. I
THINK I WOULD JUST ADD, UM, I
IT'S PROBABLY OBVIOUS TO ALL OF
US THAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO WHAT
WE CAN TO MAKE HOUSING MORE
AFFORDABLE FOR ALL CALIFORNIANS.
AND SO WHEN WE TALK TO THOSE
THAT ARE IN THE BUSINESS OF
MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE
PRODUCING AFFORDABLE HOUSING
TIME IS MONEY. AND SO I
APPRECIATE LOOKING AT THIS AS AN
OPPORTUNITY. WE WANT TO WORK ON
THOSE CONSTITUTIONAL AND
POTENTIAL IMPLEMENTATION IS
QUESTIONS. AS WELL, BECAUSE IF
THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE TO BEING
ABLE TO MAKE A PRODUCT PROJECT
FEASIBLE OR NOT, UM, WE COULD BE
HAVING IMPACT ACROSS THE STATE
IN THE FORM OF HUNDREDS OR
THOUSANDS OF UNITS OF AFFORDABLE
HOUSING THAT OTHERWISE WOULD NOT
BE CREATED. THAT'S THE PURPOSE
OF THIS BILL. THANK YOU, MADAM
CHAIR AND TO OUR STAFF AS WELL
FOR BEING ABLE TO BE WORKED WITH
MY TEAM AND OUR STAKEHOLDERS ON
THIS MEASURE, AND I WOULD
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST FOR I VOTE.
ALRIGHT WELL WITHOUT OBJECTION
THAT BILL IS GOING TO BE MOVED
TO THE SUSPENSE FILE AND THEN I
WILL LET ALL THE COMMITTEE
MEMBERS WE KNOW WE ARE AGAIN
MOVING TO ROOM 1100. WE WILL BE
STARTING WITH OUR SUSPENSE FILE.
SO WE DO NEED EVERYBODY THERE.
UM HOPEFULLY RIGHT AROUND 3 15.
RIGHT AND WITH THAT WE WILL
RECESS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
TESTING ONE. ALRIGHT IT'S ON NOW
. ALL RIGHT. WE ARE JUST GOING
TO DO OUR ADD ON AND THAT WOULD
BE ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S RIVAS. FOR
ITEM NUMBER FOUR. MAYBE 12 56.
THAT BILL IS A DO PASS FOR
ADONDE RIVAS. RIVAS. AYE. OKAY I
APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S PATIENCE
WITH THE ROOM SITUATION AND AS
HAVING TO DO A QUICK LITTLE
PRESS CONFERENCE. SO WE ARE
GOING TO BE STARTING WITH FILE
ITEM TWO ON THE SUSPENSE FILE.
PETRIE-NORRIS JUST WALKED IN. SO
. WE HAVE EVERYBODY HERE AND, UM
SO WE'RE GONNA START BY TAKING
UP FILE ITEM TO 89 TO 6 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S PAP IN THE
CHAIR IS RECOMMENDING AN I VOTE
AND THE MOTION IS TO PASS AS
AMENDED TO THE APPROPRIATIONS
COMMITTEE. THE AMENDMENTS HAVE
BEEN DISTRIBUTED AND ADD
LANGUAGE TO SECTION 41 PROVISION
TO HAVE EMOTION IN A SECOND.
THAT WAS A MOTION BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S WALLACE AND A
SECOND BY UM, MR GRAYSON AND
MISS HIGHLAND. PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL. MOTION IS DUE PASS AS
AMENDED TO APPROPRIATIONS. IRWIN
IRWIN, I, WALLACE WALLACE, I
BEANS THINGS I GRAYSON RACE AND
I PACHECO JACOB BY JIM
PATTERSON. PATERSON. I
PETRIE-NORRIS. PETRIE-NORRIS AYE
THREE OF US THREE OF US I TO
I'VE VALENCIA. VALENCIA EYES OF
HER WHERE I THAT PASSES ZERO
ALRIGHT, THAT BILL PASSES 11 TO
0 FILE ITEM THREE A. B 84
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S WARD I'M
RECOMMENDING DATING AND I VOTE.
THE MOTION IS DUE PASS AS
AMENDED TO THE APPROPRIATIONS
COMMITTEE. THE AMENDMENTS HAVE
BEEN DISTRIBUTED AND ADOPT THE
RECOMMENDATIONS NOTED IN THE
COMMENT IN OF THE COMMITTEE
ANALYSIS. DO WE HAVE A MOTION
AND A SECOND? WE HAVE A MOTION
BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S WALLACE, THE
SECOND BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
PACHECO. UM THIS HIGHLAND,
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. I REMEMBER
THREE A B 84. THE MOTION IS DUE
PASS AS AMENDED TO
APPROPRIATIONS. IRWIN IRWIN. I
WALLACE. WELL, LET'S I BEANS
AYE, GREESON. GRACE AND I,
PACHECO JACOB, BY JIM PATTERSON.
PATERSON. I PETRIE-NORRIS
NORRIS. AYE, THREE OF US.
THREE OF US I TO I'VE VALENCIA.
VALENCIA. I ZABAR. WHERE I THAT
VOTE IS 11 0 AND 80 84 PASSES
FILE ITEM FIVE. A. B 14 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S DAVIS IS HELD
IN COMMITTEE. UH FILE ITEM SIX A
B 26 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S MIKE
FONG FONG THE CHAIRS
RECOMMENDING AN AYE VOTE. THE
MOTION IS DUE PASS TO THE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE. DO I
HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND?
ASSEMBLY MEMBER WALLACE MOVES
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S ER RIVAS
SECONDS MS HIGHLAND, PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL. I DON'T REMEMBER SIX.
A B 26 IS A DO PASS TO
APPROPRIATIONS. IRWIN IRWIN, I,
WALLACE WALLACE, I BEANS MEANS I
GRAYSON. RACE AND I PACHECO HØI
JIM PATTERSON. IN PATERSON. I
PETRIE-NORRIS DID YOU KNOW HIS
EYE THREE OF US? THREE OF US I
TA TOP I VALENCIA. VALENCIA
EISENBERG. FOR I 11 0 11 0 A B
26 PASSES. NEXT UP IS FILE ITEM
7 80 46 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
RAMOS THE CHAIRS RECOMMENDING AN
I VOTE AND THE MOTION IS DUE
PASS TO THE APPROPRIATIONS
COMMITTEE. DO I HAVE A MOTION
AND A SECOND? ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
WALLACE AND, UM.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S OF VALENCIA'S
SECONDS. MISS HIGHLAND, PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL ON ITEM NUMBER
SEVEN. MAYBE 46. THE MOTION IS
TO PASS TO APPROPRIATIONS. IRWIN
IRWIN, I WALLACE. WELL, IT'S I
BEANS. AND I GREESON RECENT. I
PACHECO JACOB. ALRIGHT JIM
PATTERSON. IN PATERSON. I
PETRIE-NORRIS KARZAI THREE OF US
THE THREE OF US I TALK TO I'VE
VALENCIA. ONCE YOUR EISENBERG.
WHERE I LIVE IN ZERO. BILL IS
OUT. 11 TO 0 FILE ITEM EIGHT. A.
B 52 GRAYSON THE CHAIRS
RECOMMENDING AN AYE VOTE. THE
MOTION IS DUE PASS TO THE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE. DO I
HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND?
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S VALENCIA
MOTIONS. UH, ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
WALLACE SECONDS. AH! HIS
HIGHLAND. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL
ON ITEM NUMBER EIGHT A. B 52.
THE MOTION IS DUE PASS TO
APPROPRIATIONS. IRWIN IRWIN, I,
WALLACE WALLACE. I BAINES. AND I
AGREE, SUSAN RECENT I PACHECO
JACOB I. JIM PATTERSON. IN
PATERSON. I PETRIE-NORRIS
PETRIE-NORRIS. AYE, THREE OF US.
THE THREE OF US I TÂM UH, I
VALENCIA VALENCIA EISENBERG. FOR
I LIVE IN 0 11 0 A B 52 PASSES.
NEXT UP IS FILE ITEM NINE A B 59
BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S GALLAGHER
THE CHAIRS RECOMMENDING AN AYE
VOTE. THE MOTION IS DUE PASS TO
THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE. DO
I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND?
THAT WAS MISTER VALENCIA. AND MR
WALLACE WAS MR OH, MR ZABAR AND,
UH, MR WALLACE SECONDS, MISS
HIGHLAND. PLEASE CALL THE WALLET
ROLE OR THEM. ITEM NUMBER NINE A
B 59. THE MOTION IS TO PASS TO
APPROPRIATIONS. IRWIN IRWIN, I
WALLACE WELL, LET'S I BEANS AND
I GREESON RECENT I PACHECO JACOB
I. JIM PATTERSON. PATERSON. I
PETRIE-NORRIS AS I THREE OF US
THREE OF US I TALK TO I'VE
VALENCIA. ONCE YOUR EYES UBER
WHERE I IS 11 0. A B 59 PASSES.
NEXT UP IS FILE ITEM 10 A B 3 21
BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S WILSON, THE
CHAIR IS RECOMMENDING AN AYE
VOTE. THE MOTION IS DUE PAST
TWO. APPROPRIATIONS DO HAVE
EMOTION IN THE SECOND.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S PACHECO MOVES
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S WALLACE SECONDS
MISS HIGHLAND, PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL. ITEM NUMBER 10 83 21. THE
MOTION IS DUE PASS TO
APPROPRIATIONS. IRWIN IRWIN, I,
WALLACE, LET'S I BEANS AND I A
GRAYSON RACE AND I PACHECO JACO
I, JIM PATERSON, PATERSON. I
PETRIE-NORRIS PETRIE-NORRIS.
AYE, THREE OF US. THE THREE OF
US I TO I'VE VALENCIA. VALENCIA
EYES OF HER GRAVERT. AH THAT
VOTERS TEND TO 0 83 TO 1 PASSES
NEXT EPISODE FILE 11 FILE ITEM
11 85 09 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
VINCE FONG. THE CHAIRS
RECOMMENDING AN AYE VOTE. THE
MOTION IS DUE PASS TO THE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE. DO WE
HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND? THAT
WAS ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S TALK. AND,
UM, EMOTIONS AND
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S WALLACE
SECONDS. MISS HIGHLAND, PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL. ON ITEM NUMBER 11
. A B 509 MOTION IS TO PASS TO
APPROPRIATIONS. IRWIN IRWIN, I,
WALLACE WALLACE, I BEANS AND I,
GRAYSON. GRACE AND I PACHECO
JACOB ARE JIM PATTERSON. IN
PATERSON. I PETRIE-NORRIS.
BETWEEN NURSE. I THREE OF US THE
THREE OF US I TO I'VE VALENCIA.
ONCE YOUR EYES SUBURB. WHERE I
IS 11 0 85 OH, NINE PASSES OF
FILE ITEM 12 85 14 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S JOE PATTERSON
IS BEING HELD IN COMMITTEE. NEXT
UP IS FILE ITEM 13 85 43 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S GIBSON THE
CHAIRS RECOMMENDING AND I VOTE
AND THE MOTION IS DUE PASS TO
APPROPRIATIONS TO HAVE EMOTION
IN A SECOND. THAT'S A MOTION BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S WALLACE, THE
SECOND BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
PACHECO, MISS HIGHLAND, PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL. AND I REMEMBER 13
. MAYBE 543. THE MOTION IS TO
PASS TO APPROPRIATIONS. IRWIN
IRWIN, I, WALLACE WALLACE, I
BEANS THINGS I GRAYSON GRACE AND
I PROTECT COCOA. JACO I JIM
PATTERSON. IN PATERSON. I
PETRIE-NORRIS PETRIE-NORRIS.
AYE, THREE OF US. LUZ RIVAS I
TAR UH, I VALENCIA EISENBERG.
WHERE I THAT'S WHAT THE VOTE IS
11 0 A B 543 PASSES. NEXT UP IS
I FILE ITEM 14 85 8 TO BUY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S CONNOLLY THE
CHAIRS RECOMMENDING AN AYE VOTE
ON THE MOTION IS DUE PASS TO THE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE. DO WE
HAVE A MOTION IN SECOND? I SAID
MOTION BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
WALLACE, THE SECOND BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S GRACEN, MISS
HIGHLAND, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL
IRWIN UP ON A B 14. MAYBE 58 TO
THE MOTION IS TO PASS TO
APPROPRIATIONS. IRWIN IRWIN, I,
WALLACE WALLACE, I BEANS THINGS
I GRAYSON GRACE AND I PACHECO
JACOB ARJUN PATTERSON. IN
PATERSON. I PETRIE-NORRIS YOU
KNOW, I READ THREE OF US.
LUZ RIVAS I TA UH, VALENCIA.
ONCE YOUR EISENBERG WHERE I
LET'S LOOK. VOTE IS 11 0 A B 582
PASSES FILE ITEM 15 A B 6 TO 9
BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S WALLACE THE
CHAIRS RECOMMENDING AN AYE VOTE
. THE MOTION IS DUE PASS TO THE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE. DO I
HAVE EMOTION IN A SECOND? THAT'S
UH, EMOTION BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
GRAYSON. A SECOND BY A SON TO
I'M SORRY, ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S TODD
AND A SECOND BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
CHICO MISS HIGHLAND, PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL. ON ITEM NUMBER 15,
MAYBE 6 TO 9. THE MOTION IS TO
PASS TO APPROPRIATIONS. IRWIN
IRWIN, I, WALLACE WALLACE. I
BEANS PAINS. I GRAYSON GRAYSON,
I PACHECO JACO I JIM PATTERSON.
IN PATERSON. I PETRIE-NORRIS
BETWEEN NORRIS I THREE OF US
LUZ RIVAS I TALK TO AYE,
VALENCIA. VALENCIA EISENBERG.
WHERE I. UH UH, THAT THE VOTE IS
11 0 86 TO 9 PASSES FILE ITEMS
16 A B 778 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
TAUGHT IS BEING HELD IN
COMMITTEE FILE ITEM. AH 17 88 77
BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S A ATIS. THE
CHAIRS RECOMMENDING AND I VOTE
IN THE MOTION IS DUE PASS TO THE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE. DO WE
HAVE EMOTION IN A SECOND? AH
MOTION BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S.
WALLACE IS SECOND BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S PACHECO. MISS
HIGHLAND, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL
ITEM 17, MAYBE 877. THE MOTION
IS TO PASS TO APPROPRIATIONS.
IRWIN IRWIN, I, WALLACE WALLACE.
I BEANS THINGS I GRAYSON RACE
AND I PACHECO JACO I. JIM
PATERSON, PATERSON. I
PETRIE-NORRIS. PETRIE-NORRIS.
AYE, THREE OF US. THE THREE OF
US I TALK TO I VALENCIA.
VALENCIA EISENBERG. WHERE I LIVE
IN ZERO. THE VOTE IS 11 0 A B
877 PASSES. NEXT STEP IS FILE
ITEM 18 80 10 66 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S JOE PATTERSON
THE CHAIRS RECOMMENDING AN AYE
VOTE. THE MOTION IS DUE PASS TO
THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE. DO
WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND?
AH, THAT IS A MOTION BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S WALLACE. THE
SECOND FLIGHT ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
AH, OKAY. I CAN'T HEAR IN IN
THAT CORNER. OH ALL RIGHT. WELL
UM, THIS HIGHLAND, CAN YOU
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL AND I'M
NUMBER 18 IS MAYBE 10 66 IS A DO
PASS TO APPROPRIATIONS. IRWIN
IRWIN, I, WALLACE WALLACE. I
BEANS THINGS I GRACING GRACE AND
I PACHECO JACOB BY JIM
PATTERSON. EXCUSE ME, MR
PATTERSON. IN PATERSON. I
PETRIE-NORRIS. PETRIE-NORRIS AYE
THREE OF US LUZ RIVAS I TAR I
VALENCIA, VALENCIA EISENBERG.
FOR I THAT'S 11-3. THAT BILL IS
OUT 11 TO 0 FILE ITEM. 19 A B 11
OH, FIVE. ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
PETRIE-NORRIS IS BEING HELD IN
COMMITTEE. NEXT UP IS FILE ITEM
. 28 B 12 03 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
BAINES THE CHAIRS RECOMMENDING
AN AYE VOTE MOTIONS DO PASS TO
THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE. DO
WE HAVE A MOTION IN SECOND? UM
THAT WAS MOTION BY. UM
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S. WALLACE IS
SECOND BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
PACHECO. MISS HIGHLAND, PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL ON ITEM NUMBER 20
A B 12 03. THE MOTION IS DUE
PASS TO APPROPRIATIONS. IRWIN
IRWIN, I, WALLACE WALLACE, I
BEANS THINGS I GRAYSON RECENT I
PACHECO. JACOB BY JIM PATERSON.
PATERSON. I PETRIE-NORRIS.
PETRIE-NORRIS AYE THREE OF US
LUZ RIVAS I TA I'VE VALENCIA
VALENCIA EYES WERE WHERE I
THAT'S 11 0. THAT BILL IS OUT 11
TO 0 A B THAT WAS 12 OH THREE
FILE ITEM 21 A B 12 49 TAZ BEING
HELD IN COMMITTEE HIGHLIGHTING
22 A B 15 76 BY SUMMARY MEMBER
ASSEMBLY MEMBER WALLACE THE
CHAIRS RECOMMENDING AN AYE VOTE
ON THE MOTION IS DUE PASS TO
APPROPRIATIONS WHO HAVE EMOTION
IN A SECOND. WE'RE HAVING A SET
A MOTIVE. I ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
PACHECO, A SECOND BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S REVIS. MISS
HIGHLAND, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
AN ITEM 22 A B 15 76. THE MOTION
IS TO PASS TO APPROPRIATIONS.
IRWIN IRWIN, I, WALLACE WALLACE,
I BEANS. THINGS I A GRAYSON
GRACE AND I PACHECO JACO I JIM
PATTERSON. PATERSON. I
PETRIE-NORRIS PETRIE-NORRIS.
AYE, THREE OF US. THE THREE OF
US I AH. I'VE VALENCIA. ONCE
YOUR EYES OF HER THAT'S. ONE THE
VOTE IS 11 0 A B 15 76 PASSES A
HIGHLIGHT IN 23 A B 15 89 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S CONNOLLY IS
BEING HELD IN COMMITTEE AND OUR
FINAL BILL FILE ITEM 24 A B 17
24 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S SANCHEZ
IS BEING HELD IN COMMITTEE. ALL
RIGHT. THANK YOU. EVERYBODY AND
HAVING COMPLETED ALL BUSINESS ON
OUR AGENDA. THIS UH, MEETING IS
ADJOURNED.