THIS JUST GOT TO START
NO FURTHER TESTIMONY WILL BE
PERMITTED ADDITIONAL SUPPORTERS
MAY ONLY STATE THEIR NAME
AFFILIATION AND POSITION FOR
THE RECORD THE SAME PROCESS
WILL BE FOLLOWED AFTER
OPPOSITION WITNESSES CONCLUDE
THEIR TESTIMONY AT THAT TIME
ADDITIONAL OPPOSITION WILL BE
CALLED IN THE MAIL THE STATE
THEIR NAME AFFILIATION AND
POSITION FOR THE RECORD FOR
THIS HEARING UNTIL FURTHER
NOTICE THE COMMITTEE WILL
BE RETURNING TO IN PERSON
TESTIMONY ONLY AS REFLECTED IN
THE FINAL NOTICE LIKE TO NOTE
THAT WE ARE ACCEPTING WRITTEN
TESTIMONY TO THE POSITION THAT
ARE PART ALL ON THE COMMITTEE'S
WEBSITE APPLE ITEMS AS WE START
WE HAVE THREE BILLS ON THE
AGENDA TODAY AND THE FOLLOWING
BILL HAS BEEN APPROVED FOR
CONSENT SB SEVEN NINE THREE
THE MOTION IS TO PASS TO THE
INSURANCE COMMITTEE AND I WILL
TEN AN INTER I WILL ENTERTAIN A
MOTION ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR
AS SOON AS WE ESTABLISH
QUORUM SO I SEE THAT WE
WE WERE IN GOOD SHAPE I
GUESS MR SALIH DUCKED OUT
FOR A MOMENT SO THIS IS AN
INVITATION FOR OUR REPUBLICAN
COLLEAGUES TO REJOIN US BUT
WHEN WE GO AHEAD AND ESTABLISH
QUORUM SO MADAM SECRETARY CAN
YOU PLEASE ESTABLISH COURT
GABRIEL YEAH GABRIEL HERE
PATTERSON PARA QUE HAN
BUCKINGHAM HERE BENNETT
BENNETT HERE A SALIH SALIH
HERE FONG IRWIN IRWIN HERE
COLOR OBSERVE LOWENTHAL
LOWENTHAL HERE POPPING UP
IN HERE WICKS AND WILSON
ALL RIGHT THANK YOU MADAM
SECRETARY WE HAVE WE HAVE
ESTABLISHED A QUORUM AND SO I
WILL NOW ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON
THE CONSENT CALENDAR THAT IS
SB SEVEN NINE THREE THE MOTION
IS DUE PASSED TO THE INSURANCE
WE DO HAVE A MOTION MOTION
BY SOMETHING MEMBER LOWENTHAL
A SECOND BY ASSEMBLY MEMBER
BENNETT MADAM SECRETARY PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL I AM ON THE
CONSENT CALENDAR THE MOTION IS
TO PASS TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR
GABRIEL HI GABRIEL I PATTERSON
PARA QUE HAN OKAY AND I HAVE
BEEN IT AND I IS SALIH SALIH HI
FONG IRWIN IRWIN HI LOWENTHAL
UNTIL I HAPPEN HI WICKS WILSON
WE HAVE SEVEN VOTES SAID THE
CONSENT CALENDAR PASSES WE
WILL LEAVE THE ROLE OPEN FOR
ABSENT MEMBERS TO ADD ON AND
AT THIS POINT WE WILL MOVE
TO FILE ITEM NUMBER ONE SB
SIX FOUR FOUR SENATOR GLAZERS
THANK YOU AT THANK YOU CHAIR
GABRIELLA NUMBERS THANKS FOR
TAKING THE TIME TO HEAR THIS
BILL TODAY I ALSO WANT TO
COOLEY CALL OUT MY THANKS TO
THE STAFF FOR THESE -- SUBURBAN
ALICE'S AND DONE ON THE BILL
YET THE THOUGHT WAS THAT THEY
PUT INTO IT AND I THINK IT
MAKES A LOT OF THE POINTS I'M
GONNA MAKE TODAY I'M MEMBERS
I I'VE HAD SOME A SIDEBAR
CONVERSATION WITH SOME OF YOU
BUT THE QUESTION THAT I ALWAYS
ASK IS HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE
MADE RESERVATIONS FOR LODGING
ON THE INTERNET -- AND MOST
-- I THINK HAVE DONE THAT THAT
COULD TELL HOLES THAT I'VE DONE
WITH THE ASSEMBLY WOMAN POWER
QUE HAN -- I THAT QUESTION TO
THE AUDIENCE AND THEN SURPRISED
THAT YOU KNOW ABOUT EIGHTY
PERCENT OF THE HANDS GO UP THAT
THEY ARE USING THE INTERNET
FOR FOR RESERVATIONS AND OF
COURSE A LOT OF THAT IS NOT
JUST ABOUT DIRECTLY WITH THE
HOTEL ESTABLISHMENT IT'S ALSO
THROUGH THIRD PARTY APPS AND
OF COURSE THIS BILL IS THE
RESULT OF THE FEEDBACK THAT
I'VE GOTTEN NOT ONLY PERSONAL
EXPERIENCE BUT FEEDBACK THAT
I'VE GOTTEN THAT IT'S REALLY
EASY TO MAKE MISTAKES ON THE
INTERNET -- WHEN YOU'RE MAKING
THESE TYPES OF RESERVATIONS IN
SOME CASES YOU GET REDIRECTED
TO A SITE THAT YOU THOUGHT WAS
THE HOTEL AND TURNS OUT NOT TO
BE THE HOTEL AND IT'S A THIRD
PARTY APPS AND OTHER CASES
YOU'RE ACTUALLY WORKING THROUGH
-- AND ESTABLISHED THIRD PARTY
APPS -- BUT IF YOU EVER MAKE
A MISTAKE I DO NOT DEALING
DIRECTLY WITH THE ESTABLISHMENT
IT'S A MISTAKE THAT THE HAS NO
REVERSAL TO IT IN MANY CASES
THAT THAT MISTAKE MEANS THAT
WHATEVER YOU COMMITTED TO IF
YOU WEREN'T AWARE THE FEES THAT
WERE BEING CHARGED UNTIL YOU
GOT TO THE END YOU OUT WEREN'T
AWARE OF EXACTLY WHAT WHO YOU
WOULD COMMITTED TO -- THERE'S
NO RECOURSE -- ONE MINUTE AFTER
YOU GIVE THEM YOUR CREDIT CARD
THAT CONFIRMATION COMES BACK
YOU HAVE A PROBLEM AND THAT'S
REALLY WHAT THIS BILL IS TRYING
TO DO IS TRYING TO GET AT
THAT INADVERTENT MISTAKE THAT
YOU MAKE SOMETIMES WEEKS IN
ADVANCE MONTHS IN ADVANCE FOR
A VACATION -- WHERE YOU THOUGHT
YOU WERE DOING SOMETHING AND
TURNED OUT IT WASN'T UNDER THE
PROVISIONS OF THIS BILL SIMPLY
SAYS THAT IF YOU HAVE -- DECIDE
THAT YOU'VE MADE THAT MISTAKE
THAT TWENTY FOUR HOURS AFTER
YOU'VE MADE THAT RESERVATION
YOU HAVE THE CHANCE TO TO
GET TO GET YOUR MONEY BACK A
SIMILAR TO WHAT'S IN PLACE ON
THE FEDERAL STE -- RULES FOR
AIRLINES TO MAKE A RESERVATION
EVEN A NON REFUNDABLE AIRLINE
RESERVATION UNDER FEDERAL LAW
YOU CAN GET YOUR MONEY BACK
IN TWENTY FOUR HOURS IF YOU
US SO INDICATE AND THAT'S
REALLY WHAT THIS BILL AYE AYE
INTENDS TO DO -- -- I WOULD
NOTE THAT -- WE HAVE HAD A
LOT OF FRUITFUL CONVERSATIONS
IN THE LAST FEW DAYS ON THIS
UNDER THE -- GUIDANCE OF YOUR
CHAIR TO TRY TO THERE ARE THERE
HAVE BEEN SOME OPPOSITION FROM
FOLKS ABOUT IT AND WE'VE HAD
SOME DIFFERENCES THAT WE'VE
BEEN TALKING ABOUT OVER THE
LAST FEW MONTHS AND WE HAVE I
THINK REACHED SOME AGREEMENTS
THAT LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU
ON THIS BILL TODAY THE FIRST
IS THAT WE'VE CHANGED THAT
THE -- SO WHAT I'VE NEVER
IT'S NEVER BEEN MY INTENTION
TO ALLOW FOR A GAMING OF THE
SYSTEM SOMEONE IS TRYING TO
TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS TWENTY
FOUR HOUR CANCELLATION TO DO
THINGS THAT NORMALLY THEY WOULD
NOT BE ABLE TO DO -- AND SO
THE FOCUS OF THAT -- PROBLEM
HAS BEEN ROOMS THAT HAVE BEEN
UNSOLD FRUIT FOR WEEKS AND
MONTHS GOING INTO THE LAST FEW
DAYS BEFORE IT WAS AVAILABLE
-- THAT SOMEHOW -- ILL WITHOUT
A LOT OF NOTICE THAT YOU COULD
RESERVE IT AND THEN CANCEL IT
AND THAT'S REALLY BEEN AT THE
HEART OF THE THE DIFFERENCES
THAT WE HAD -- AND IN THE BILL
IT SAYS THAT IF YOU MAKE THE
RESERVATION TWENTY FOUR HOURS
BEFORE YOU'RE ACTUALLY GOING
TO BE THERE YOU CAN'T CANCEL
IT YOU DON'T GET THAT PRIVILEGE
BUT IF IT'S TWENTY FIVE HOURS
YOU WOULD GET THAT PRIVILEGE
AND SO IT'S TRYING TO FIGURE
OUT THAT NARROW PROBLEM -- IN
THE SCOPE OF WHAT THIS BILL
IS ATTEMPTING TO TO SOLVE AND
SO I AM I'M WILLING TO CHANGE
THAT LIMITATION FROM A TWENTY
FOUR HOUR BEFORE -- YOU ARE TO
ADD TO -- OCCUPIED THAT LODGING
ESTABLISHMENT TO SEVENTY TWO
HOURS SEVENTY TWO HOURS YOU
DON'T GET THE TWENTY FOUR HOUR
CANCELLATION ANYMORE UNDER THIS
BILL OKAY THE SECOND THING THAT
I'VE TRIED TO BE RESPONSIVE
TO THERE ARE SERVICES THAT ARE
OFFERED TO CONSUMERS WHERE THEY
DON'T DISCLOSE THE NAME OF THE
ESTABLISHMENT -- FOR WHATEVER
REASON THEY'RE WILLING TO GET
A DISCOUNT IF YOU DON'T REALLY
KNOW WHERE YOU'RE RESERVING
-- I A COMMON EXAMPLE THAT
IS HOT WIRE I THINK PRICELINE
SOMETHING SIMILAR AND BELIEVE
ME I'M VERY FAMILIAR BECAUSE
I'VE USED THEM DOZENS OF
TIMES I LIKE THE DISCOUNT I
THINK I KNOW WHERE I'M GOING
TO BE AND SO -- IT'S IT'S A
IT'S AN EYES OPEN AGREEMENT
AND EYES OPEN AGREEMENT I
UNDERSTAND THAT THIS TWENTY
FOUR HOUR CANCELLATION DOES
INTERFERE WITH THAT BUSINESS
MODEL I THINK THAT THERE IS
A EASY WORKAROUND WHICH IS
THAT YOU DON'T DISCLOSE THAT
ESTABLISHMENT UNTIL TWENTY
FOUR HOURS AFTER YOU'VE GOTTEN
PAYMENT FOR IT BUT I STILL
APPRECIATE THAT THERE ARE
ISSUES IN THAT MODEL THAT
THIS BILL WOULD INTERFERE
WITH SO I'M AGREEING TO --
EXEMPT OPAQUE RATES OKAY
GREAT SO HOTWIRE IS EXAMPLE
OF THAT AND LANGUAGE IS STILL
TO BE FINALIZED BUT I SEEM
DRAFT LANGUAGE I THINK IT'S
VERY CLOSE TO I THINK THAT
WHAT WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT
ON AND FINALLY I HAD TO TO
DEAL WITH THAT THIS CHANGE
IN BUSINESS OPERATIONS -- AND
THE DESTRUCTION THAT THAT MAY
CREATE I HAVE AGREED TO DELAY
IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS BILL
UNTIL JULY FIRST OF TWENTY FOUR
GIVING ADDITIONAL SIX MONTHS
TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO
ISSUES SO I WANT TO THANK THE
CHAIR FOR HIS -- ENCOURAGEMENT
-- IN THESE CONVERSATIONS THAT
I CERTAINLY WANT TO THANK ALL
THE BUSINESS PARTNERS THAT I
KNOW WILL HEAR FROM IN A FEW
MINUTES BECAUSE THEY DO PROVIDE
A GOOD SERVICE -- AND ALL
WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS PROVIDE
A CONSUMER FRIENDLY ELEMENT OF
IT FOR THOSE WHO INADVERTENTLY
MAKE MISTAKES THAT'S THE
BILL BEFORE YOU TODAY WITHOUT
RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR RIVAL
THANK YOU VERY MUCH SENATOR
APPRECIATE THAT AND THANK YOU
FOR -- FOR ALL OF YOUR HEART
INTELLIGENT WORKING FOR --
EXPLAIN TO THE COMMITTEE ALL
OF THE -- NEGOTIATIONS YOU
HAD THE CONVERSATIONS YOU
AND I DO WANT TO COMPLIMENT
YOU KNOW DO THAT MORE LATER
BUT -- FOR THE CONSTRUCTIVE
WAY THAT YOU APPROACH THIS
DO WE HAVE ANY WITNESSES IN
THE HEARING ROOM IN SUPPORT
ALL RIGHT SEE NINETY WE
HAVE ANY WITNESSES -- IN
THE ROOM IN OPPOSITION
YES THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR
MEMBERS -- I'M JULIE MELANAU
SKI BALL I REPRESENT THE
CALIFORNIA HOTEL AND LODGING
ASSOCIATION JUST REMINDERS CHLA
REPRESENTS THE BIG BRANDS DOWN
TO THE LITTLE ERROR BEING BEES
AND EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN AS
OF MAYBE FOUR MINUTES AGO I
DID GET PERMISSION TO SAY WITH
THESE AMENDMENTS WE ARE GOING
TO GO TO NEUTRAL SO WE THANK
YOU VERY MUCH TO THE COMMITTEE
AND THE AUTHOR FOR WORKING WITH
US WE HOPE IT'S ACTUALLY NOT
THE END OF THE CONVERSATION
THERE ARE STILL SOME OTHER
MINOR TECHNICAL ISSUES THAT
WE BELIEVE NEED TO BE RESOLVED
IN LIGHT OF THE NEW AMENDMENTS
BUT AGAIN WE'VE GONE NEUTRAL
REMOVED OUR OPPOSITION AND WE
THANK EVERYONE ELSE FOR THEIR
EFFORTS ON THIS THANK YOU
ROBERT RIVAS A CONFERENCE
HERE COMMERCE WE ALSO
REALLY PUSHY DISCUSSIONS
WILL BE GOING NEUTRAL BASED
ON THESE CHANGES THANK YOU
HI TERRY MEMBERS I MILLION
THE MONEY WITH A CALIFORNIA
TRAVEL ASSOCIATION THANK YOU
TO THE AUTHOR AND THE CHAIR
FOR THE HARD WORK ON RESOLVING
SOME OF THE INDUSTRY'S
ISSUES -- CALIFORNIA TROUBLES
ASSOCIATION HAS MORE THAN
JUST HOTELS OF COURSE WE'RE
STILL LOOKING AT -- ADDRESSING
THE TRAVEL PACKAGE ISSUE
BUT WITH THE AMENDMENTS THAT
YOU'VE DISCUSSED TODAY I THINK
ONCE I GO BACK TO MY MEMBERS
HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET TO A
PLACE OF AGREEMENT THANK YOU
SO MUCH AND I'LL FOLLOW UP
WITH YOU WHEN WE KNOW MORE
GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIR MEMBER
SABRINA LOCKHART WITH THE
CALIFORNIA ATTRACTIONS AND
PARKS ASSOCIATION ALIGN
MYSELF WITH THE COMMENTS
MADE WITH MY COLLEAGUE FROM
CAL TRAVEL REALLY APPRECIATE
THE WORK SO FAR HOPE WE
CAN WORK OUT -- SOME ISSUES
RELATED TO PACKAGES THANK YOU
WONDERFUL THANK YOU VERY MUCH
WITHOUT WILL BRING IT BACK
TO MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE
QUESTIONS COMMENTS MISTER LONG
TALL IN THE ASSEMBLY MEMBER
ADVOCATE -- COMPLIMENTS TO
YOU SENATOR AND TO YOU MISTER
CHAIR ON THE WORK DONE -- TO
GET EVERYBODY ALIGNED ON THIS
NINE I FIND MYSELF SUPPORTIVE
OF THIS BILL CAN YOU HELP
ME UNDERSTAND BETTER TO FIND
BETTER WHAT OPAQUE PRICING
IS CERTAINLY -- IT'S WHERE --
YOU YOU KNOW THE DATES AND YOU
KNOW THE LOCATIONS IN WHICH
YOU WANT TO FIND A LODGING
ESTABLISHMENT BUT YOU DON'T
KNOW THE NAME OF THE LODGING
ESTABLISHMENT YOU MAY KNOW
QUALITIES HOW MANY STARS THREE
STARS TWO STARS FOUR STARS
YOU MAY KNOW THE LOCATION
AND AT JURISDICTION SO YOU
KNOW ITS DOWNTOWN NOT OUT IN
FOLSOM -- AND THE COMMITMENTS
THAT ARE THEY ARE THE THE THE
GLACIATIONS THAT ALLOW THESE
SITES TO OFFER THESE RATES ARE
BASED ON THE AGREEMENT THAT YOU
WON'T DISCLOSE THE ACTUAL HOTEL
UNTIL AFTER THE RESERVATIONS
MADE AND PAID FOR SO THERE'S
NO ADVERTISING OF A DISCOUNTED
RATE FOR THE HIGHEST YOU MAY
GO AND SEE ON THE WEBSITE
THAT THE HEIGHT IS TWO HUNDRED
FIFTY DOLLARS A NIGHT AND YOU
MAY FIND A DISCOUNT PACKAGING
SITE THAT MAY SELL IT FOR A
HUNDRED EIGHTY A NIGHT WHICH
YOU MAY SEE A FOUR STAR ON
HOT WIRE FOR A HUNDRED TWENTY
AND OF THE SCRIBE OF FOUR
STAR IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA BUT
YOU DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT'S
THE SHERATON WHETHER IT'S
THE CITIZEN WHETHER IT'S THAT
CAMPED IN OR WHETHER IT'S
THE HIGH IF THERE'S FOUR FOUR
STARS AND DOWNTOWN SO IT'S
ONLY UPON PAYMENT OF THAT
A HUNDRED TWENTY DOLLARS IS
USING AN EXAMPLE THAT THEY WILL
THEN DISCLOSED THAT YOU HAVE
CONGRATULATIONS SIR AS YOU'VE
GOTTEN THE HIGHEST IN FUTURE
ITERATION OF THE BILL WILL
DEFINE THIS YES WILL DEFINE
WHAT IT OPAQUE -- SERVICE IS
SO FAR AWAY AM I JUST WANT
TO THANK THE SENATOR -- ANY
OPPOSITION -- FOR COMING
TOGETHER ON WHAT IS REALLY
IMPORTANT I THINK PROTECTIONS
FOR CALIFORNIANS WE LIKE THE
SENATOR SAID WE'VE ALL BEEN IN
A SITUATION WHERE WE'VE MADE
A MISTAKE ON MY TO WANT THAT
CANCELLATION AND WHEN YOU'RE
BOOKING AIRLINE YOU'RE NOW
PROTECTED AND SO IT'S IMPORTANT
WE HAVE PROTECTIONS BROADER
BUT ALSO ENSURING THAT SOME
OF THE DISCOUNTS THE PART THAT
ALLOWS SOME OF CALIFORNIANS
TO TRAVEL IN WAYS THAT THEY
OTHERWISE WOULDN'T ARE ALSO
PROTECTED SO I THINK AMAZING
WORK COMING TO A WHAT APPEARS
TO AN AGREEMENT THAT EVERYONE
-- COULD COME TO I THINK THAT'S
WHAT WE SHOULD DO IN EVERY
COMMITTEE SO THANK YOU SENATOR
FOR BEING A PART OF THAT
ASSEMBLY MEMBER BENNETT
CREATE A CONVERSATION THAT
-- HAD WITH YOU LAST EVENING
US SENATOR IN APPRECIATE YOUR
MODIFICATIONS I'M JUST GONNA
SAY THIS FOR THE RECORD WHICH
IS SORT OF A REPEAT OF THE
THINGS THAT I MENTIONED TO
YOU BUT WITH THESE HIGH END
-- HOTELS LIKE CENTER THEY CAN
OFTENTIMES AS YOU SAY IF THEY
HAVE ROOMS HAVE BEEN SITTING
VACANT FOR A LONG PERIOD OF
TIME THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE BUT
THEY I HAVE OF FAIR AMOUNT OF
EXPERIENCE CONSTANTLY GOING TO
SOCCER TOURNAMENTS AND TRYING
TO ORGANIZE ALL THE PARENTS
OF THE SOCCER TOURNAMENTS IN
MANY OF THEM DO WAIT TO THE
LAST WEEK AND THEN THEY DO
CHECK WITH THE -- MORE HIGH
PRICED HOTELS AND WHEN THEY
FIND OUT THEIR FULL THAT'S
WHEN THEY GO TO IT SO I JUST
BE IN THE INTEREST OF TRYING
TO PROTECT THOSE SMALLER MOM
AND POP THE HOTEL LOCATIONS
I APPRECIATE YOU MOVING AT
BECAUSE I THINK THAT IT PUTS
IN A DISTINCT DISADVANTAGE
THEY ARE PEOPLE WHO BOOK UP A
LOT OF THEIR ROOMS IN THE LAST
FOUR FIVE DAYS -- THAT ARE
OUT THERE -- SO I APPRECIATED
THE MODIFICATION THE ONE THING
THAT I ASK SINCE WE DON'T HAVE
THE LANGUAGE IN FRONT OF US
AS YOU JUST SAID SOMETHING HE
SAID IF YOU BOOK TWENTY FOUR
HOURS TWENTY FIVE TWENTY FOUR
HOURS IN ADVANCE WITH YOUR OLD
LANGUAGE YOU WOULDN'T GET THIS
BUT IF YOU BOOK TWENTY FIVE
HOURS IN ADVANCE YOU WOULD
BE ABLE TO LOCK THAT ROOM UP
ALL THE WAY UNTIL ONE HOUR
BEFORE YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO
GET THERE THAT CERTAINLY IS I
I THINK THAT AGAIN WOULD HAVE
BEEN A TREMENDOUS DISSERVICE
BUT I HOPE YOU DON'T PUT THAT
LANGUAGE AND WHAT I THINK
IS APPROPRIATE AS SEVENTY
TWO HOURS IN ADVANCE THE
ESTABLISHMENT NO LONGER HAS
TO WORRY ABOUT THE TWENTY FOUR
HOUR NOTICE WHICH IS A LITTLE
BIT DIFFERENT SOMEBODY BOOKS
SEVENTY THREE HOURS IN ADVANCE
THEY CAN'T THEY CAN CANCEL UP
TO SEVENTY TWO HOURS IN ADVANCE
SOME OF THE BOOKS FOR DAYS IN
ADVANCE THEY THEY THEY'VE GOT
THE FULL TWENTY FOUR HOURS SO
I HOPE YOU WOULD CONSIDER THAT
BECAUSE AGAIN FOR THE SMALL MOM
AND POP PLACES SOMEBODY MAKES
A RESERVATION ON WEDNESDAY
MORNING SEVENTY THREE HOURS
OR WHEN WHENEVER SEVENTY THREE
HOURS IN ADVANCE OF A RIVAL
-- THAT'S A PRETTY CRITICAL
TIME FOR THEMSELVES THAT'S MY
REQUEST BUT -- I CERTAINLY CAN
SUPPORT THE BILL AND I REALLY
APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION
THAT WE HAD YOUR WILLINGNESS
TO COMPROMISE AND TO BRING
ON ALL OF THE OPPONENTS INTO
A NEUTRAL POSITION THANK YOU
WEBER SALIH THANK YOU MISTER
CHAIR UP I JUST WANTED TO THANK
THE SENATOR FOR FOR WORKING
DILIGENTLY ON THIS IN THE
OPPOSITION AS WELL I THINK YOU
RAISE A LEGITIMATE CONSUMER
PROTECTION ISSUE -- BUT AS
WITH MOST LEGISLATION IT'S A
DELICATE BALANCE AND APPRECIATE
YOUR ENGAGING IN THAT THAT BACK
AND FORTH I'M GONNA PROTECT
CONSUMERS BUT ALSO RECOGNIZE
IT'S AN EXTREMELY DIFFICULT
BUSINESS TO BE AND IT'S VERY
CUT THROAT AND -- THEY DO A
GREAT SERVICE OF BRINGING IN
MONEY TO THE STATE AND AND
TOURISM SO I REALLY APPRECIATE
YOU WORKING WITH THEM AND --
DOUBLES ALWAYS IN THE DETAILS
SO I LOOK FORWARD TO HOPEFULLY
SUPPORTING THIS FULLY ON THE
FLOOR SO THANK YOU CENTER
LET'S GO ASSEMBLY MEMBER WICKS
IN THE SUMMER FONG HI SENATOR
SEARCH OF MR PRESENTATION BUT
I DID GET DEBRIEFED ON THE
AMENDMENTS AND YOU AND I HAD
A CHANCE TO TALK THIS MORNING
AS WELL -- I THINK YOU'VE
LANDED IN A REALLY GOOD PLACE I
APPRECIATE YOU PUSHING FORCE ON
THE CONSUMER PROTECTIONS THAT
I DO THINK ARE WARRANTED ALSO
WORKING WITH THE OPPOSITION
TO ENSURE THAT -- WE'RE
TAKING ALL THE DIFFERENT YOU
KNOW UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES
INTO ACCOUNT -- IT'S MY HOPE
THAT YOU KNOW WITH THESE
AMENDMENTS OPPOSITION WILL
COME OFF -- AND THERE WON'T
BE ANY KIND OF MOVING OF THE
GOALPOSTS -- BUT I APPRECIATE
YOUR THOUGHTFULNESS ON THIS
AND I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT
THE BILL TODAY HE THANK YOU
SEVEN MAR FONG I THINK THIS
CHAIR I ACTUALLY BEFORE I LIKE
ASKING QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS
THAT MAY I ASK WHAT THE LIMITS
ARE SET WE KNOW THAT WHAT WAS
AGREED TO YEAH DO YOU WANT TO
SENATOR YOU WANNA THE CORRECT
VERSION THIS THE SHORT VERSION
IS THAT WE'VE MOVED THE THAT
THE WINDOW WHERE CANCELLATIONS
WOULD BE ALLOWED FROM TWENTY
FOUR HOURS TO SEVENTY TWO HOURS
THREE DAYS IN ADVANCE SECOND
IS THAT I HAVE COMMITTED TO
EXEMPTING OBSCURE THE -- THE
WEBSITES THAT -- R.
O.
TAKE A SANDWICH WHERE YOU
DON'T REALLY KNOW THAT LODGING
ESTABLISHMENT BY NAME THAT THAT
MODEL THAT BUSINESS MODEL WHICH
COULD NOT BE IT -- INCLUDED
IN THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE
BILL THAT'S LIKE A HOTWIRE OR
PRICELINE AND FINALLY THAT I'VE
AGREED TO DELAY IMPLEMENTATION
-- FOR SIX MONTHS TO ALLOW ANY
KIND OF RETOOL AND THAT WOULD
BE REQUIRED -- TO LIGHT HERE TO
THE REQUIREMENTS OF THIS BILL
TO JULY FIRST OF TWENTY TWENTY
FOUR AT THE MUCH I CERTAINLY
WANT TO DO I WANT TO COMMENT
YOU APPRECIATE THE TIME THAT
YOU GAVE ME -- TALKING TO
THIS BILL -- I KNOW THAT -- I
THINK YOU'VE YOU'VE ADDRESS A
LOT OF THOSE CONCERNS AND AND
-- WELL I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT
GIVE THEM SOME PRINT -- WILL
DEVELOP FOR TWO ON THE FLOOR
WON'T LAY OFF THE BILL TODAY
BUT SO THEY WILL LOOK FOR TWO
MINUTES WHEN THEY ARE FINALIZED
THANK YOU MUCH SIR I'M WITH
THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A MOTION
FROM ASSEMBLY MEMBER HAPPENED
A SECOND FROM SOME OF OUR CAN
I DO THINK SOME OF OUR LOWEST
ALL IN THE VICE CHAIR YEAH JUST
VERY QUICKLY SENATOR -- A FEW
QUESTIONS JUST HEARD ME AS WE
THINK THAT THIS IS REGARDING
PROPERTIES LOCATED IN THE STATE
OF CALIFORNIA NOT THE LOCATION
WHERE THE BOOKINGS ARE TAKING
PLACE CORRECT THAT IS CORRECT
THE PROPERTIES ARE IN CAL THAT
THE BILL IS WRITTEN IT IS AN
INTENDED TO APPLY JUST TO THE
PROPERTIES IN CALIFORNIA'S
FOR THE PROPERTIES PHYSICALLY
OKAY IN CALIFORNIA AND THEN
THE SECOND QUESTION THAT I HAD
FOR YOU IS WHAT I'VE NOTICED
IS THAT SO MANY BOOKING SITES
NOW ARE ACTUALLY BOOKING FOR
PERSONAL STAYS AS WELL SO FOR
EXAMPLE ORBITS IF YOU ON ORBITZ
IN A HOTEL STAY WILL GO BEYOND
THE ACTUAL HOTELS AND BOOK
IN A WAY THAT AN AIRBNB WOULD
NOT SURE I'M FOLLOWING YOU
-- IT'S IT'S BOOKING PRIVATE
RESIDENCES HOTELS ARE BOOKING
FOR OUR PRIVATE RESIDENCES THE
WAY THAT AIRBNB DOES RIGHT NOW
RIGHT SO THERE IS A DEFINITION
IN THE BILL FOR A WHO WHO
THE SUPPLIES TO IS THAT WHAT
YOU'RE GETTING AT TO SUPPLY
THOSE IT IS SO IT'S NOT THE
BOOKING SITES THEMSELVES IT'S
RIGHT SO WE I THINK WE DEFINE
IT AS SHORT TERM RENTALS AT
THAT WOULD BE COVERED BY THAT
EXAMPLE I BELIEVE SO I CAN'T
TELL YOU FOR SURE BUT THAT'S
THE INTENTION IS TO INCLUDE
THE SHORT TERM RENTAL COMMUNITY
IN THAT SO THAT THERE'S EQUAL
PLAYING FIELD FOR EVERYONE OKAY
THANK YOU SENATOR FOR I'M
BRINGING THIS BILL AND I HAVE
RIGHT ACTUALLY AB WAS BOOKING
LAST NIGHT NOT IN CALIFORNIA
BUT -- VACATION RENTAL IN
OREGON AND -- IT'S FOR JULY
AND THE WEBSITE SAYS WHEN YOU
BURKE YOUR APP YOU NOW THERE'S
NO REFUNDS BECAUSE THIS WITHIN
THIRTY DAYS YOU NOW AND SO
THIS WAS AT LIKE TEN O'CLOCK
AT NIGHT SO IT TAKES A MY WIFE
WHO'S ALREADY SLEEPING SHE'S
GOT SHE GOT A REAL JOB -- JUST
GETTING EVERYBODY GOING TO
FIND IT BUT -- BUT SHE SAYS
SO SHE DIDN'T CHECK A CHECK
THAT THIS MORNING AND SHE SAYS
YEAH NO THAT'S RIGHT BUT YOU
KNOW CONCERN TO ME OBVIOUSLY
I WANTED TO DOUBLE CHECK THAT
THAT SHE WAS RIGHT ON THAT ON
OUR DATES AND EVERYTHING SO I
TO MAKE SURE SHE WAS OK SO I
I TOTALLY APPRECIATE THE WE'RE
GOING WITH THIS AND I I AM
SUPPORTIVE OF IT I DO PREFER
TO SEE THE AMENDMENTS OBVIOUSLY
AND AND WRITING AND ALL THAT
IF WE DON'T HAVE YOU KNOW THAT
I WANT TO SEE THIS MOVE OUT
OF COMMITTEE I'LL JUST I'LL
SAY THAT SO YOU NOW HAVE TO BE
THERE I WILL BUT MY PREFERENCE
WOULD BE TO SEE IT IN WRITING
-- YOU KNOW AND AND SUPPORTING
IT ON THE FLOOR BUT I DON'T
WANT TO GET HELD UP TODAY
-- SO YOU KNOW IF IF I GOTTA
BE THERE WELL SO THANK YOU
ALL RIGHT WE HAVE -- ANY ANY
OTHER MEMBERS -- IF NOT WE HAVE
A MOTION AND A SECOND -- JUST
A FEW HOUSEKEEPING IS I DO WANT
TO CAN CONFIRMS SIR THAT YOU'RE
GONNA ACCEPT IT AMENDMENTS
THAT ARE IN THE COMMITTEE
ANALYSIS YES OKAY WONDERFUL
AND I WOULD JUST -- ASK IF
YOU'RE OPEN TO IT TO ALLOW THAT
PRIVACY COMMITTEE CONSULTANTS
TO JUST BE INVOLVED AS YOU'RE
MAKING IRONING OUT THE THE
THE LANGUAGE OF THESE MOMENTS
WONDERFUL THANK YOU -- SO I'LL
JUST I'LL JUST COMPLEMENT I
WHAT I WANT TO PICK UP WHERE
ASSEMBLY MEMBER BARRICADE HIM
LEFT OFTEN COMPLEMENT BOTH
YOU AND THE OPPOSITION ON
THIS -- YOU KNOW TO ME THIS IS
SORT OF COMMONSENSE CONSUMER
PROTECTION HERE WE CERTAINLY
WANT TO ACCENTUATE THE BENEFITS
ABOUT WHAT WE CAN MINIMIZE ANY
UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES HERE WE
CERTAINLY ARE VERY VERY PROUD
OF OUR TOURISM ECONOMY HERE IN
THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA LOVE
WELCOMING VISITORS IT SUPPORTS
A LOT OF JOBS A LOT INDUSTRY
-- CALIFORNIA AND I THINK
THAT THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY
RAISE SOME IMPORTANT POINTS
FOR US TO CONSIDER ABOUT THEIR
BUSINESS MODELS ABOUT HOW THESE
THINGS WORK ABOUT -- YOU KNOW
SOME UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES
PERHAPS ON THE MARGINS AND I
WANT TO COMPLIMENT U.
S.
UNEXPECTED ERROR I WOULD SAY
YEAH OF COURSE EXPECTEDLY
WERE SENSITIVE AND RECEPTIVE
TO THOSE I KNOW YOU'RE AT YOU
KNOW I'M VERY SENSITIVE TO
CONCERNS OF BUSINESS COMMUNITY
INTEREST COMPLEMENT TO OFFER
-- THE WAY THAT YOU HAD THOSE
CONVERSATIONS I THINK YOU'VE
ARRIVED AT AMENDMENTS THAT ARE
PRESERVED THE REALLY IMPORTANT
CONSUMER PROTECTION BENEFITS OF
THIS BILL BUT ALSO ADDRESS SOME
OF THOSE THINGS AND YOU KNOW
AS WE ARE TODAY HAVE REMOVED
A LOT OF THE OPPOSITION AND
-- AND MAYBE ALL OF IT ONCE
FOLKS HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY GO
BACK AND CHECK IN WITH THEIR
MEMBERS SO KUDOS TO YOU COULD
I WAS TO -- HI MR MUTURI AND
EVERYONE IN THE IN THE FOLKS
REPRESENTING INDUSTRY FOR
HELPING TO IT TO GET US TO
THIS POINT I THINK THAT'S HOW
THE PROCESS IS SUPPOSED TO
WORK -- I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT
THE BILL AND -- I WOULD INVITE
YOU CLOSE THANK YOU CHAIR
AND THANK YOU FOR YEARS YOUR
SUPPORT AND ENCOURAGEMENT AND
ASSISTANCE -- IN THE BILL I
WOULD SAY THIS THAT I DON'T
USUALLY LEGISLATIVE THE SPACE
FOR THOSE WHO KNOW MY FINISHED
MY EIGHTH YEAR IN THE SENATE --
BUT I DO TRY TO ACT RESPONSIBLY
-- IN PLACES IN WHICH -- WITH
THAT THERE'S POTENTIAL HARM
TO THE GOOD FOR BUSINESS FOLKS
THAT THAT WE WANT TO OPERATE
IN AND CREATE GOOD JOBS HERE IN
OUR STATE SO I THINK THAT THE
BOUNCES HERE AND I APPRECIATE
YOUR CONSIDERATION TODAY WITH
RESPECTFULLY ASK WHEN I VOTE
OKAY WE HAVE THANK YOU THANK
YOU VERY MUCH SENATOR SO WE
HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND THE
MOTION IS TO PASS AS AMENDED
TO THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE
MADAM SECRETARY PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL AND I'M NUMBER ONE
SB SIX FORTY FOUR BY SENATOR
GLAZER AYE AND THE MOTION
IS TO PASS AS AMENDED TO THE
JUDICIARY COMMITTEE M.
MOTION ONE BITE M.
ASSEMBLY MEMBER PEPIN M.
SECOND BY OUR BED PARA QUE HAN
GABRIEL HI GABRIEL I PATTERSON
PATTERSON NOT VOTING OKAY
HIM OKAY AND I HAVE BEEN IT
BENNETT I IS SALIH SALIH NOT
LOADING FONG FONG NOT VOTING
IRWIN IRWIN AT LOWENTHAL THE
ONE THOUGHT I HAPPEN HAPPEN
I WICKS WICKS ADDED WILSON
ARE YOUR BILL HAS SEVEN VOTES
IT IS OUT CONGRATULATIONS
WE'LL LEAVE THE ROLE OPEN
FOR ABSENT MEMBERS TO ADD ON
THANK YOU ALL RIGHT -- WILL
NOW MOVE TO OUR FINAL BILL OF
THE DAY -- WELCOME SENATOR --
BURKE THIS IS FILE NUMBER TO
MOVE THE BELL AND SECOND BY
THE COMMITTEE I'LL TAKE THE
MOTION FROM ASSEMBLY MEMBER
FONG IN THE SECOND BY SOME
AMERICAN SENATOR SO ARE YOU
YEAH I'VE BEEN A LITIGATOR
SO WHEN THE JUDGE ISSUES A
TENTATIVE IN MY FAVOR I TRY TO
BE SMART ENOUGH NOT TO RUIN IT
-- BUT IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS
I'LL BE HAPPY TO RESPOND
WHAT LET ME DO LET ME THANK
ALL YOUR CONSULTANT JUST --
HAS BEEN VERY HELPFUL AND I
APPRECIATE YOUR WORK AND ON
THIS BILL AND OTHER BILLS YOU
SEE MY NAME ON A BILL BUT THANK
YOU FOR YOUR HELP SO THANK YOU
ARE LIKEWISE WE -- WE ALWAYS
ENJOY -- WORKING OFF OF THE
GET IT NOW SAYS THAT ARE PUT
UP YOUR COMMITTEE CONSULTANT
SO THANK YOU FOR THAT I IT
SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF
EXCITEMENT ABOUT THIS BOMBING
THE COMMITTEE BUT I WILL JUST
ASK ARE THERE ANY WITNESSES IN
THE ROOM IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL
ANY IN OPPOSITION C.
NINE WILL BRING IT BACK
TO THE COMMITTEE -- ANY
QUESTIONS COMMENTS REMEMBERS
THE COMMITTEE JUST I'M SINCE
I'M OF THE BILL AND I AGREE
WITH YOU STOP IT YES BUT I
WOULD LIKE TO GET AS A CO
AUTHOR I THINK IT'S A GREAT
BILL IF YOU ALL RIGHT THANK
YOU VERY MUCH ASSEMBLY MEMBER
ASSEMBLY MEMBER WICKS I JUST
WANT TO THANK THE SENATOR FOR
BRINGING THIS BILL FORWARD
I THINK WE DO EVERYTHING WE
CAN TO ENSURE THAT OUR SOCIAL
MEDIA COMPANIES IN PARTICULAR
ARE BEING RESPONSIBLE ACTORS
PARTICULARS OF JAMES RIGHT
SHOULDER AND -- I'VE DONE A
LOT OF WORK IN THE SPACE AS
WELL -- AND I SELFISHLY CARE
ABOUT IT IS THE MOM OF THE
SIXTY TWO YEAR OLD MY HOPE
IS THAT YOU KNOW WHEN THEY
GET A LITTLE BIT OLDER WILL
HAVE CREATED MORE GUARDRAILS
AND BETTER FRAMEWORK AND MORE
ACCOUNTABILITY AND REQUIRE THEM
TO BE MORE RESPONSIBLE ACTORS
SO I JUST APPRECIATE YOUR WORK
IN THE SPACE AND I WOULD LOVE
TO BE ADDED AS A CO AUTHOR AS
WELL THANK YOU VERY MUCH SO
MEMBER BENNETT ST QUESTED LOVE
TO BE ON AS A CO AUTHOR THANK
YOU THANK YOU SO MUCH BETTER
THANK YOU HOPEFULLY THEY'LL GO
LIKE THIS I ANY OTHER QUESTIONS
COMMENTS MISTER SENATOR THANK
YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE WORK
YOU'RE DOING IN THIS AREA IT'S
SOMETHING VERY IMPORTANT TO
ME -- UNFORTUNATELY I'VE HAD
THEM CONSTITUENTS PASSED AWAY
FROM -- RECEIVING DRUGS ONLINE
AND YOU KNOW AND ACTUALLY
I'VE LEARNED A LOT IN THAT
PROCESS INCLUDING -- PEOPLE'S
ABILITY TO SORT OF CIRCUMVENT
THINGS THAT ARE OUT THERE AND
SOMETIMES I THINK THAT THAT
PLATFORMS COULD DO A BETTER JOB
AND YOU KNOW IN SOME OF THESE
CASES YOU KNOW WE SHOULDN'T
REALLY HAVE TO GO GET A COURT
ORDER YOU NOW TO HAVE THIS
THERE'S ONE PARTICULAR INSTANCE
RIGHT NOW YOU PEOPLE CAN GO
ONLINE AND WATCH A PERSON
SHIP DRUGS IT'S VERY OBVIOUS
WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND THIS
PARTICULAR PLATFORM HAS NOT
REMOVED THE MATERIAL OF COURSE
I COULD PROBABLY GET INVOLVED
AND GET IT REMOVED BUT JOE
PATTERSON PARENTS SHOULD BE
ABLE TO GET IT REMOVED FROM
THE PLATFORM -- WITHOUT SEEKING
A COURT ORDER SO I TOTALLY
SUPPORT THIS BILL A HUNDRED
PERCENT -- YOU KNOW OBVIOUSLY
I WANT TO SEE MORE AGGRESSIVE
ACTION ON THIS I DO YOU KNOW
IN DEFENSE TO THE PLATFORMS I
DO THINK THAT THEY'RE NOT YOU
KNOW WANTING TO BE BAD ACTORS
IN THIS SPACE I WANT TO BE
VERY CLEAR ON THAT BUT -- BUT
THIS IS A BIG PROBLEM THIS
IS HOW KIDS ARE GETTING FAT
NOW YOU KNOW IN MY DISTRICT
UNFORTUNATELY AND I THINK
AROUND THE STATE SO APPRECIATE
YOUR WORK IN THIS AREA AND
I LOOK FORWARD TO SUPPORTING
IT THANK YOU THANK YOU
ALL RIGHT I SEE NO FURTHER
COMMENTS -- I JUST WANT TO
ADD MY VOICE TO THE CHORUS
ANAEROBIC THANK YOU FOR YOUR
WORK IN THE SPACE I THINK IT'S
YOU KNOW -- PROTECTING FOLKS
ONLINE PARTICULARLY CHILDREN
AND YOUNG PEOPLE HAS BEEN A TOP
PRIORITY FOR THIS COMMITTEE --
FOR A LOT OF MEMBERS OF THIS
COMMITTEE WE'VE DONE A LOT
OF THAT WORK IN A BIPARTISAN
FASHION I KNOW THAT YOU'VE
BEEN IMPORTANT PARTNER IN THAT
I THINK THIS IS AN IMPORTANT
EFFORT SO WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL
FOR YOUR WORK -- HAPPY TO
SUPPORT THE DELL IT WOULD
INVITE YOU TO CLOSE -- WELL
THANK YOU THANK YOU FOR YOUR
WORK IN THIS AREA THIS IS A
PATTERN ON A BILL SOME YOU SAW
LAST YEAR CONCERNING THOSE WHO
POST OF VIOLENT THREATS ONLINE
AND GIVES THEM THE OPPORTUNITY
TO HAVE THEM REMOVED I AGREE
WITH YOU SOMETHING OVER
PATTERSON THAT I WOULD HOPE
THAT THE SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS
WOULD TAKE IT DOWN OF ONCE
THEY'VE BEEN NOTIFIED BY NOT
REQUIRING A COURT ORDER --
AND AND I THINK THAT THEY WILL
ACTUALLY BUT IF THEY DON'T
THEN WE HAVE A TOOL TO --
INCENTIVIZE THEM OR SANCTION
THEM IF THEY FAIL TO DO SO --
THIS IS A UP A CHALLENGE THAT
THAT WE'RE ALL FACING -- IT'S
A CHALLENGE THAT IS INCREASING
AND I'M HOPING THIS IS ONE
OF MANY TOOLS IN THIS AREA TO
ADDRESS THE EPIDEMIC OF DRUG
OVERDOSES AND DRUG POISONING
IN CALIFORNIA THANK YOU THANK
YOU VERY MUCH SENATOR -- SEE
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND
SOMEONE SECRETARY PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL ADAM NUMBER TWO SB
SIXTY BY SENATOR UMBERG AT
FIRST MOTION MADE BY SOMEONE
MEMBER FONG AND A SECOND ABOUT
OKAY HIM GABRIEL HI GABRIEL HI
PATTERSON PATTERSON I ABOUT HIM
OR TAKE HIM AYE BENNETT BENNETT
I SALIH SALIH I PHONE PHONE
I IRWIN IRWIN HI LOWENTHAL
LOWENTHAL I HAPPEN HAPPEN AYE
WICKS AYE WICKS AYE WILSON
OKAY THAT HAS TEN VOTES YOUR
BILLS OUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH
SENATOR NUMBER WILL BE A LOT
I I SUCK SO I'VE HEARD --
THANK YOU ALL RIGHT AT THIS
POINT COM I KNOW THAT WE HAD
A FEW FOLKS WE'RE GONNA OPEN
UP FOR OUT ON SOME THE CONSENT
CALENDAR CEMENT SECTOR Q.
CALL THE ROLL THE CONTENT
COUNTER THE CONSENT CALENDAR
THE MOTION IS TO PASS TO
THE CONSENT CALENDAR APP
PATTERSON PATTERSON HI
FONG FONG WICKES WICKES I
THE CAN SECOND OR
IS NOW TEN ZERO
--
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AND
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