THE ASSEMBLY PUBLIC SAFETY
COMMITTEE. UM. WE DON'T HAVE A
CORN YET. AS SOON AS WE GET
ENOUGH MEMBERS HERE THEY HAVE A
QUORUM, UM, WILL BEGIN. BUT
WE'LL BEGIN BECAUSE WE DO HAVE
AN AUTHOR HERE. WE DO NOT WANT
TO CAN'T START WITHOUT. I JUST
GOT ADMONISHED. WE CANNOT START
WITHOUT AT LEAST ONE OTHER
MEMBER. SO WE NEED ANOTHER
MEMBER. IN THE MEANTIME, I WILL
READ MY HOUSEKEEPING THINGS I
NEED TO READ AND HOPEFULLY,
SENATOR ARCHULETTA. SOMEONE WILL
COME DOWN HERE SO WE CAN BE
BEGIN THE COMMITTEE MEETING. ALL
WITNESSES WILL BE IN PERSON.
THERE WILL BE NO PHONE TESTIMONY
OPTION FOR THIS HEARING. YOU CAN
FIND MORE INFORMATION ON THE
COMMITTEE'S WEBSITE ASSEMBLY DOT
CA.GOV BACKSLASH COMMITTEES. THE
FOLLOWING. BILLS HAVE BEEN
PULLED BY THE AUTHOR. ITEM
NUMBER FIVE. SB 359 HAMBURG,
FULL BODY AUTHOR. ITEM NUMBER
12, FB 602 ARCHULETTA PULLED BY
THE AUTHOR. AND I SEE THE DOOR
OPEN AND WE HAVE ANOTHER MEMBER.
SO WE CAN NOW MADAM SECRETARY,
CAN WE NOW BEGIN? AS A
SUBCOMMITTEE. AND. LUCKILY WE
HAVE NO OBJECTION FROM THE OTHER
SIDE SO WE WILL BEGIN. MR.
ACTUALLY, DO YOU MAKE. WELL
THANK YOU. MR CHAIRMAN AND
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S THANK YOU FOR
THIS OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT MY
BILL. AH ONCE AGAIN, I AM
HONORED TO BE HERE. TODAY I'M
PRESENTING SENATE BILL FOR 12.
TO ENSURE SENATE BILL 4 12 IS TO
ENSURE ALL VICTIMS. CRIME
VICTIMS ARE TREATED EQUALLY AND
HOW MUCH NOTICED THEY MUST BE
PROVIDED TO THE BOARD OF PAROLE
HEARINGS IN ORDER TO ATTEND
HEARINGS. CURRENT REGULATION
REQUIRES THAT A DIRECT VICTIM OF
A CRIME IS TO PROVIDE 15 DAY
NOTICE TO THE BOARD IF THEIR
INTENT IS TO ATTEND A HEARING.
BUT IT IS REQUIRED THAT AN
INDIRECT VICTIM SUCH AS THEIR
FAMILY MEMBERS AND OTHERS TO
PROVIDE A 30 DAY NOTICE IF THEY
ALSO WISH TO ATTEND THE PAROLE
HEARING. THIS BILL WOULD SIMPLY
REQUIRE THAT ALL VICTIMS NEED
ONLY TO PROVIDE A 15 DAY NOTICE
BY ALIGNING ALTHOUGH
CERTIFICATIONS ARE 15 DAYS, THIS
BILL ELIMINATES CONFUSION AND
ENSURES THAT FAMILIES CAN BE
HURT. THE CURRENT RULES
REGARDING VICTIM NOTIFICATIONS
ARE CONTRARY TO THE DEFINITION
OF THE VICTIM UNDER MARTIAL LAW
AND THE STATE CONSTITUTION.
MARTIAL LAW DEFINES A VICTIM AS
A PERSON WHO SUFFERS DIRECT OR
THREATEN PHYSICAL, PSYCHOLOGICAL
OR FINANCIAL HARM AS A RESULT OF
A COMMISSION OR ATTEMPTED
COMMISSION OF A CRIME. THE TERM
VICTIM UNDER MARTIAL LAW ALSO
INCLUDES THE PERSON SPOUSE,
PARENTS, CHILDREN, SIBLINGS OR
GUARDIAN AND INCLUDES A LAWFUL
REPRESENTATIVE OF A CRIME VICTIM
WHO IS DECEASED. A MINOR OR
PHYSICALLY OR PSYCHOLOGICALLY,
UNDER OR UN I BOOKED. YOU
PARTICIPATE. MURDER CASES AND
OTHERS WERE THE DIRECT VICTIM
ARE DECEASED OR UNABLE TO ATTEND
, PHYSICALLY OR MENTALLY TO
PARTICIPATE HIGHLIGHTS THE NEED
FOR THIS BILL. IN THESE CASES,
THERE IS NO DIRECT VICTIM THAT
CAN TESTIFY. THIS MEANS THAT
THERE IS EFFECTIVELY A TOUGHER
NOTIFICATION STANDARD FOR
HOMICIDE CASES THAT FOR CASES
WITH A LIVING VICTIM THIS IS NOT
RIGHT. OR I'M OR FAIR AT ALL FOR
THE FAMILIES THAT HAVE LOST
THEIR LOVED ONES. CALIFORNIA
MUST NOT PUNISH THEIR FAMILIES
OR LETTING CONFUSION IN THE LAW
CAUSED HIM TO MISS A HEARING.
NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS ARE
EXTREMELY STRICT. MISSING A
DEADLINE BY EVEN A DAY MEANS
THAT THE VICTIM WILL WILL LIKELY
NOT BE ABLE TO ATTEND THE
HEARING. SENATE BILL 4 12
PROVIDES EQUAL OPPORTUNITY FOR
ALL VICTIMS BY CREATING A
UNIFORM 15 DAY NOTIFICATION IF
REQUIRED. THIS BILL IS AS
RECEIVED UNANIMOUS PART
BIPARTISAN SUPPORT. WITH ME
TODAY TO TESTIFY AS KIM STONE ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
DISTRICT ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION,
AND I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR
I VOTE. OKAY YOU HAVE FIVE
MINUTES. MAYBE WE DON'T NEED
THAT MUCH BECAUSE THE AUTHOR
PRESENTED ALMOST EVERYTHING I
WAS GONNA SAY KIM STONE ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
DISTRICT ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION,
PROUD TO SPONSOR THIS BILL THAT
BRINGS CALIFORNIA STATUTE INTO
ALIGNMENT WITH THE
CONSTITUTION'S DEFINITION OF
VICTIM, WHICH IS NOT ONLY THE
DIRECT CRIME VICTIMS BUT ALSO
THEIR RELATIVES. UM HE EXPLAINED
THE BILL. REALLY WELL, I'M JUST
GOING TO GIVE YOU A COUPLE
EXAMPLES. IN THE CASE OF JANET
HERNANDEZ, WHO COMMITTED A
HOMICIDE IN RIVERSIDE COUNTY.
THE VICTIM'S GRANDMOTHER AND
AUNT WERE EXCLUDED FROM THE
PAROLE HEARING BECAUSE THEY
MISSED THE 30 DAY CUT OFF IN THE
SANTA CLARA COUNTY CASE OF
CHARLES SIMMONS, THE VICTIM'S
UNCLE, REGISTERED TO ATTEND THE
PRO HEARING THAT IT WAS 28 DAYS
INSTEAD OF 30 DAYS PRIOR, AND HE
WAS EXCLUDED FROM, UM, THAT
HEARING AND THEN IN THE SAN
DIEGO COUNTY CLICK CASE OF
CARLOS PENA. FAMILY MEMBERS OF
THAT MURDER WERE EXCLUDED FROM
ATTENDING THE PAROLE DATE, EVEN
THOUGH THEY HAD ATTENDED AN
EARLIER ONE IN REGISTERED, BUT,
UM, DUE TO A CONTINUANCE THAT
THEY WEREN'T AWARE OF THEY WERE
NOT ABLE TO PROVIDE THE
REGISTERED NOTICE. UM WE THINK
THAT THIS COMMON SENSE BILL IS
GOOD POLICY AND BRINGS US IN
COMPLIANCE WITH OUR
CONSTITUTIONAL DEFINITION OF
VICTIM AND THANK THE AUTHOR,
THANK THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND
DRIVE OUT. THANK YOU. ARE THERE
ANY OTHER WITNESSES AND SUPPORT
ANY WITNESSES IN THE CHAMBER AND
SUPPORT ANY BUT THAT WE JUST
WAKE YOU UP. SER USUALLY IT'S
OPPOSITION. OKAY DEAL WITH GOOD
MORNING, MR CHAIR AND MEMBERS.
COREY SELLS VILLA ON BEHALF OF
THE CALIFORNIA STATE SHERIFF'S
ASSOCIATION AND SUPPORT. THANK
THANK YOU, MR SALTILLO, ANY
WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION. UH
WITNESSING OPPOSITION SEEN NONE
. BRING IT BACK TO COMMITTEE
MEMBERS THAT ARE HERE TO HAVE
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. WE
NEED MORE FOR KWAN. SO WE. THAT
THE ONCE WE GET A QUORUM WILL
VOTE ON IT. I THE CHAIR IS GOING
TO RECOMMEND THAT I SO WE
SHOULDN'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS AND
I APPRECIATE IT. AND ONCE AGAIN
I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND
YOUR I VOTE. ALL RIGHT. THANK
YOU. MAXED. OR HAVE. NO. UH OH.
YOU'RE HERE. COME ON UP,
BLACKSHEAR. BREAKS HERE TO GET
USED TO PRONOUNCING YOUR NAME.
UH ITEM NUMBER NINE. SB 417.
FIREARMS DEALERS. WELL GOOD
MORNING. GOOD MORNING, GOOD
MORNING, CHAIR AND COMMITTEE
MEMBERS. MY NAME'S SENATOR
CATHERINE BLAKE SPIRIT AND I
APPRECIATE YOU HAVING ME HERE
TODAY. SB 4 17 MODIFIES EXISTING
SIGNAGE THAT'S ALREADY REQUIRED
IN GUN STORES. TO ACKNOWLEDGE
THE STATISTICAL RISK THAT
ACCOMPANIES ACCESS TO A FIREARM
IN THE HOME. AS THE ANALYSIS
CONCISELY POINTS OUT. WHILE MANY
PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT KEEPING A
FIREARM IN THE HOME MAKES THEM
SAFER, THE DATA SHOW THAT THE
OPPOSITE IS TRUE. A GUN IN THE
HOME IS LINKED TO A NEARLY THREE
TIMES HIGHER LIKELIHOOD THAT A
FAMILY MEMBER OR FRIEND WILL BE
FATALLY WOUNDED. SB 4 17
REASONABLY INCORPORATES THIS
EVIDENCE INTO THE EXISTING
SIGNAGE SO THAT POTENTIAL
PURCHASERS OF A FIREARM ARE
AWARE OF THE RISKS AND IDEALLY,
WILL TAKE STEPS TO SAY SAFELY
STORE THEIR FIREARMS SHOULD THEY
DECIDE TO GO FORWARD WITH THEIR
PURCHASE. THIS BILL IS SUPPORTED
BY MOMS DEMAND ACTION AND
STUDENTS DEMAND ACTION AS WELL
AS BRADY AND EVERY TOWN. WITH ME
TODAY TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT IS A
REPRESENTATIVE FROM MOMS DEMAND
ACTION. WHENEVER YOU'RE READY TO
FIVE MINUTES, OKAY? THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. GOOD MORNING TO YOU,
CHAIR AND THE MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE. MY NAME IS MARY DO
PLA. I'M A VOLUNTEER WITH MOMS
DEMAND ACTION FOR GUN SENSE IN
AMERICA. I'M ALSO A GUN VIOLENCE
SURVIVOR. MY DAUGHTER, LORNA
CLARK WENT AWAY TO COLLEGE AND
NEVER CAME HOME. LORNA'S LIFE
WAS SENSELESSLY CUT SHORT BY A
GUN. I ADVOCATE FOR GUN VIOLENCE
PREVENTION BECAUSE I DON'T WANT
ANYONE ELSE TO EXPERIENCE THE
PAIN OF LOSING A LOVED ONE TO
GUN VIOLENCE. I'M HERE TODAY
ASKING YOU TO SUPPORT SB 417 BY
SENATOR BLAKE SPHERE THIS BILL.
IS AN IMPORTANT PUBLIC HEALTH
MEASURE TO EDUCATE CONSUMERS
ABOUT THE RISK OF FIREARM
OWNERSHIP. WE KNOW THAT
CALIFORNIA LEADS THE WAY IN MANY
ASPECTS OF GUN VIOLENCE
PREVENTION AND SAFETY. SAFETY I
AM GRATEFUL THAT CALIFORNIA LAW
ALREADY REQUIRES GUN STORES TO
POST A SIGN EXPLAINING VARIOUS
FIREARMS LAWS THAT GUN OWNERS
NEED TO KNOW ABOUT. IT'S A GOOD
IDEA TO POST THAT INFORMATION
RIGHT WHEN PEOPLE ARE
CONSIDERING BUYING A GUN BECAUSE
RESPONSIBLE GUN OWNERS WANT TO
INFORM THEMSELVES. ABOUT THINGS
LIKE HOW TO STORE THEIR GUNS
SAFELY AND LEGALLY OR WHAT TO DO
IF IT'S SEVERAL LOST OR STOLEN.
SP 417 BUILDS ON THAT LAW AND I
REALLY IMPORTANT WAY THIS BILL
WOULD REQUIRE GUN STORES TO ALSO
INCLUDE A SIGN INFORMING PEOPLE
OF THE BROADER RISKS OF FIREARMS
IN THE HOME. INCLUDING THE
HEIGHTENED RISK OF SUICIDE.
HEIGHTENED RISK OF DEATH.
HEIGHTENED RISK OF INJURY DURING
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, DISPUTES AND
THE HEIGHTENED RISK.
UNINTENTIONAL DEATH OR TRAUMATIC
INJURIES WITH SO MUCH CONSTANT
GLORIFICATION OF GUNS IN OUR
SOCIETY, AND SO MANY LIVES LOST
TO GUN VIOLENCE, IT'S MORE
IMPORTANT THAN EVER TO MAKE SURE
PEOPLE CONSIDERING PURCHASING A
FIREARM CAN MAKE AN INFORMED
DECISION. SP 417 WILL ALSO TAKE
AN IMPORTANT STEP. TO HELP
PREVENT GUN SUICIDE BY ENSURING
PEOPLE WHO ARE ABOUT TO BUY A
FIREARM ARE AWARE THAT IF THEY
ARE THEIR LOVED ONES ARE
EXPERIENCING DISTRESS OR
DEPRESSION OR CONTEMPLATING
SUICIDE. THEY CAN CALL 9 88. THE
SUICIDE AND CRISIS LIFELINE, THE
NUMBER 988 NUMBER THAT 9 88
NUMBER IS EASY TO REMEMBER AND
INFORMING PEOPLE ABOUT IT ON
THESE SIGNS. WILL SAY LIVES WE
ASK FOR YOUR VOTE ON SB 417.
THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER
WITNESSES AND SUPPORT. CASSANDRA
WHETSTONE. I'M A VOLUNTEER WITH
MOMS DEMAND ACTION AND I'M IN
SUPPORT. MARY LOU ROSSETTO, YOLO
COUNTY. UM MOM'S OUTREACH. UM IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. EUROPEAN
MOMS DEMAND ACTION VOLUNTEER.
I'M IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU AND
THE OTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
OKAY AND OPPOSITION. ANY
WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION WILL
BRING IT BACK TO COMMITTEE FOR
ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS. YES,
MR TEGA. JUST GOOD MORNING. I
WANT TO THANK BOTH THE SENATOR
AND OUR WITNESS TODAY AND THANK
YOU FOR SHARING YOUR STORY AND
BRINGING THIS PIECE OF
LEGISLATION FORWARD. I THINK
WE'RE ALL TIRED AND MEANINGLESS.
UM, YOU KNOW, GENTLEMEN OF
SORROW WHERE CHILDREN AND FAMILY
MEMBERS CONTINUE TO BE KILLED BY
GUN. AND REALLY APPRECIATE. THIS
PIECE OF LEGISLATION TO TRY TO
ADDRESS THIS CRISIS WE'RE IN, SO
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
OKAY WE DON'T YOU MAKE YOU MAKE
CONCLUDE. WELL, THANK YOU. I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN I VOTE.
OKAY UM, UNFORTUNATELY, WE DON'T
HAVE A QUORUM. YET WHAT'S THE
ESTABLISHED CHAIR WILL RECOMMEND
THAT I DON'T SEE ANY PROBLEMS
GETTING THIS THROUGH, BUT THANK
YOU FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD.
UM THIS IS YOUR FIRST BILL HERE.
OR USUALLY, WE USUALLY HATE YOU.
BUT WE'RE GOING TO FORGIVE.
SINCE WE DON'T HAVE A CORE.
WE'RE GONNA LET YOU GO THIS
TIME. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL
RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU,
EVERYONE. SO WE'RE WAITING FOR
TWO MORE AUTHORS. UH SENATOR
RUBIO AND SENATOR WAHAHA. ONCE
THOSE TWO ARE HERE, AND WE
ESTABLISH A QUORUM WE CAN
COMPLETE WHAT WE NEED TO DO
TODAY.
OKAY. SO TODAY, ATTORNEY.
STILL HERE? THANK YOU.
YEAH. IT. IS THAT RIGHT? SENATOR
ONE HOB. THANK YOU. BEGIN
WHENEVER YOU'RE READY. THAT'S
ITEM NUMBER SEVEN SB 400. ALL
RIGHT. THANK YOU. CHAIR AND
MEMBERS LAST YEAR SAN JOSE
POLICE DEPARTMENT. TERMINATED AN
OFFICER FOR ENGAGING IN A
INAPPROPRIATE SEXUAL ACT WHILE
ON THE JOB. DESPITE THE SEXUAL
ACT, FALLING INTO ONE OF THE
EIGHT EXISTING DISCLOSE HERBAL
INCIDENTS OF MISCONDUCT. THE
POLICE DEPARTMENT FACED
UNCERTAINTY ABOUT WHETHER IT WAS
ABLE TO PUBLICLY CONFIRMED THE
REASON FOR THE TERMINATION UNTIL
A PUBLIC RECORDS ACT WAS
INITIATING. DELAYS. LIKE THIS
CAN INCREASE PUBLIC MISTRUST IN
THE DEPARTMENT, THE LEADERSHIP
AND LAW ENFORCEMENT. CITIES AND
COUNTIES INVEST MOSTLY IN LAW
ENFORCEMENT, HOPING TO RECRUIT
AND MAINTAIN A STAFF OF OFFICERS
WHO WILL COMMIT TO A HIGH LEVEL
OF INTEGRITY. HOWEVER, AT TIMES
THAT IS NOT THE CASE IN
TERMINATION OF AN OFFICER IS
WARRANTED. WHEN AN OFFICER IS
TERMINATED AND A SUSTAINED
FINDING ABOUT THE OFFICERS
CONDUCT IS MADE. SB 400
CLARIFIES THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT
AGENCIES MAY REPORT ABOUT
DISCLOSE HERBAL INCIDENTS OF
MISCONDUCT EVEN WHEN NO PUBLIC
RECORDS REQUEST IS MADE. THE
PASSAGE OF SB 400 WILL IMPROVE
TRANSPARENCY AND TRUST BETWEEN
LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES AND THE
COMMUNITIES THEY SERVE BY
PROVIDING ACCESS TO CRITICAL
COMMUNITY INFORMATION IN A
TIMELY MANNER. I RESPECTFULLY
ASK FOR NEITHER. THANK YOU. DO
YOU HAVE ANY WITNESSES? LOOK ANY
. WHEN THE CITIZENS SUPPORT GOOD
MORNING, MARCO GEORGE AND BEHALF
OF CALIFORNIA PUBLIC DEFENDERS
ASSOCIATION AND SUPPORT THANK
YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER
WITNESSES AND SUPPORT. CRYSTAL
KIDDOS HERE ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA FACULTY ASSOCIATION
AND SUPPORT THANK YOU. JUDGE
WITH THE BABY WITH THE
CALIFORNIA ATTORNEYS FOR
CRIMINAL JUSTICE AND SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING, DEREK
MORGAN, ON BEHALF OF THE
INITIATE JUSTICE HERE IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. ARE THERE
ANY WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION?
ANY WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION.
BRING IT BACK TO COMMITTEE
MEMBERS FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS. SEEING NONE. YOU MAY
CLOSE. THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO
BE VERY CLEAR THAT THIS IS IN
SUPPORT OF NOT ONLY TRANSPARENCY
, UM, IN REGARDS TO OUR LAW
ENFORCEMENT, BUT ALSO ALLOWS FOR
PROACTIVE LAW ENFORCEMENT
AGENCIES TO BE ABLE TO DEFEND
THEMSELVES PUBLICLY WHEN AN
INCIDENT OCCURS. THIS ALSO
ALLOWS FOR A YOU KNOW, JUST JUST
THE TRANSPARENCY AND THE GROWING
TRUST THAT WE WANT TO KIND OF
ESTABLISH, BUT ALSO THE DUE
PROCESS OF AN OFFICER. THE
ANNOUNCEMENT AND EVERYTHING IS
DONE AFTER THE DUE PROCESS OF AN
OFFICER RIGHT SO THEY GO THROUGH
THEIR TIME. THEY HAVE THEIR
RIGHTS AND SO FORTH, AND SO I
JUST WANT TO BE VERY TRANSPARENT
ABOUT THAT. AND RESPECTFULLY
ASK, CAN I VOTE AND I HAVE A
NOTE ABOUT AMENDMENT OF WHERE
THERE OR IT'S JUST. DID YOU
ACCEPT THE AMENDMENT? UM I
BELIEVE SO. YOU WANT CHECK?
QUANTIFY THAT. AMENDMENTS
CLARIFIED. THESE ARE DECLARED
ABOUT THE EXISTING LAW. YES AND
CLARITY. YES YES, WE HAVE
ACCEPTED THE AMENDMENTS. ALRIGHT
THANK YOU RECOMMENDED I SOON AS
WE GET ONE MORE MEMBER. THEN
WE'LL BE ABLE TO TAKE UP THE
BILL, AND I'M PRETTY CERTAIN
THERE WILL BE APPROVED HAVE
ANOTHER PUBLIC SAFETY. WE DO
HAVE ANOTHER MEMBER. HE IS HERE
WE GO TO LET'S JUST STAB. HAVE A
SEAT. SENATOR RUBIO WILL
ESTABLISH A QUORUM. YEAH GO
AHEAD. SAWYER HERE, CHINESE
BONTA. BRIAN. BLACKIE HERE,
ORTEGA SANTIAGO. ZIPPER. KWON
PRESIDENT, UM GO THROUGH THE
PROPOSED CONSENT CALENDAR. A B
ITEM NUMBER ONE SB 78 GLACIER
CRIMINAL PROCEDURE. FACTUAL
INNOCENCE ITEM NUMBER TWO SB 86
C. ARTO CRIME VICTIMS RESOURCE
CENTER. REMEMBER THREE SB 2 50
NUMBER CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES
PUNISHMENT ITEM NUMBER FOUR. SB
290 MEN DOMESTIC BOX. EXCUSE ME.
DOCUMENTATION VICTIM ACCESS ITEM
NUMBER SIX SP 376 RUBIO. HUMAN
TRAFFICKING VICTIMS RIGHT ITEM
NUMBER 10. SB 448 BECKER
JUVENILE DETENTION HEARINGS. I
DON'T NUMBER 13 F B. 762 BECKER
LOCAL DETENTION FULFILL THE
SAFETY CHECKS ENTERTAINING
MOTION FOR APPROVAL CONSENT
CALENDAR. SOME MOVED AND
SECONDED. SECRETARY CALLED THE
ROLE AND THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
JOHN SAWYER CHEN SAWYER. I
ELONIS. AYE, BONTA. BANTA, I,
BRIAN BLACKIE BLACKIE. I ORTEGA
ORTEGA EYES SANTIAGO SANTIAGO. I
ZIPPER. GOOD SAME COLLEGES
ADOPTED SENATOR RUBIO WHENEVER
YOU'RE READY. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU, MR CHAIRMAN. MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE. THANK YOU FOR THIS
OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT FIRST
TIME WHEN I BEGIN BY THANKING
THE COMMITTEE AND ITS STAFF FOR
WORKING WITH MY OFFICE AND WE
WILL BE ACCEPTING THE COMMUNITY
AMENDMENTS, AS OFFERED. I'M
PROUD TODAY TO PRESENT SP 5 45
THE SAME CHILDREN ACT THIS
SIMPLE BILL, BUT VERY,
INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO SO MANY
PEOPLE IS THE SAFE CHILDREN ACT
THAT WILL STOP CHILD SEX CRIME
VICTIMS FROM BEING TRIED IN
ADULT COURT WHEN THEY HAVE
FOUGHT BACK AGAINST THEIR
ABUSERS, CHILDREN WHO ARE
TRAFFICKED WHO ARE SEXUALLY
ABUSED. NEED TO BE RECOGNIZED AS
VICTIMS WHO ARE PREYED UPON BY
ADULTS. MANY OF THESE CHILDREN
COME FROM VERY DIFFICULT
BACKGROUNDS OF FULL OF NEGLECT
AND YEARS OF TRAUMA, WHICH MAKES
THEM EASY TARGETS. FOR PEOPLE
WHO HAVE SINISTER INTENTIONS.
BUT WORST OF ALL THESE CHILDREN
FIGHT BACK AGAINST THEIR ABUSERS
THERE OFTEN RE TRAUMATIZED AND
AGAIN BY BY THE ADULTS AND THE
CRIMINAL SYSTEM AND BY THE COURT
. THE SAFE CHILDREN ACT
RECOGNIZES THESE CHILDREN AS
SURVIVORS AND PROVIDES THEM WITH
HEALING AND REHABILITATION AS
WELL. BY REQUIRING THAT DRIVEN
UP COURT TO KEEP A CHILD SEX
CRIME VICTIM WITHIN THE JUVENILE
SYSTEM. IT FINDS BY CLEAR IT HAS
TO FIND BY CLEAR AND CONVINCING
EVIDENCE THAT THEY'RE VICTIMS
THAT THAT PERSON WAS ATTACKED
WERE TRAFFICKED OR SEXUALLY
ASSAULTED THE SAFE CHILDREN ACT
DECLARES THAT THE LEGISLATORS
AND 10 IS NOT ONLY TO KEEP THEM
IN JUVENILE COURT BUT ALSO TO
PROVIDE TREATMENT. AND SERVICES
. THIS BILL SPONSORED BY HUMAN
RIGHTS FOR KIDS, IT'S SUPPORTED
BY A DIVERSE GROUP OF
STAKEHOLDERS ORGANIZATIONS, AND
IT PASSED THE SENATE WITH
BIPARTISAN SUPPORT 37 TO 0.
JOINING ME HERE TODAY ARE TWO
WITNESSES WHO HAVE LIVED
EXPERIENCE IN THIS REALM HERE IS
JARED HARPER, WHOSE LIFE
SENTENCE WAS COMMUTED BY
GOVERNOR BROWN AND WAS RELEASED
FROM PRISON. AFTER SERVING 20
YEARS, AND SARA KRUZAN, WHOSE
LIFE SENTENCE WAS COMMUTED BY
GOVERNOR SEARCH INTEGER AND WHO
WAS RELEASED FROM PRISON AFTER
19 YEARS, I MAY I WOULD LIKE TO
TURN IT OVER TO MR HARPER. YES
YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES. GOOD
MORNING. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME
IS JARED HARPER AND I JUST WANT
TO SHOW A LITTLE BIT OF
GRATITUDE. UM, FOR ACTUALLY
BEING HERE. IT'S TAKING ME A
LONG, LONG, LONG TIME TO SIT
BEFORE YOU ALL TODAY. I'M IN
SUPPORT OF SB 545. BECAUSE I
WISH IT WAS LAW. WHEN I WAS
HARMED AS AN ABUSE, FOSTER TOP
TODAY WE HAVE ABOUT 400,000
FOSTER KIDS ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
ONLY 3% OF US GO TO COLLEGE. AND
ONLY 15% OF THAT 3. ACTUALLY
GRADUATE. BY THE TIME OF MY
INCARCERATION. I HAD EXPERIENCED
UPWARDS OF ABOUT 48 DIFFERENT
FOSTER HOMES. REGRETTABLY HAD TO
ABUSERS. AND AGAIN I REGRETTABLY
TOOK THE LIFE. OF MY SECOND
ABUSER, AND FOR THAT I WAS RE
TRAUMATIZED AND I WAS CAST AWAY
AND I WAS GIVEN A SENTENCE OF
LIFE WITHOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF
PAROLE PLUS 10 YEARS. THE JUDGE
TOLD ME THAT I WAS IRREDEEMABLE.
AND I SHOULD NEVER WALK AMONG
SOCIETY AGAIN. THIS IS AFTER I
WAS TRANSFERRED OVER FROM THE
JUVENILE. DEPARTMENT OF
CORRECTIONS AND SENT TO THE
ADULT SECTION. AND THIS IS HOW I
WAS GIVEN THIS DEATH SENTENCE AS
AN ABUSE FOSTER KID. I WAS
PLACED INTO THE FOSTER CARE
SYSTEM HAS 17 MONTHS OLD, SO I
DIDN'T HAVE. THE TYPICAL
HOUSEHOLD THAT MOST PEOPLE HAD.
WHEN I WENT TO TRIAL, I SAT IN
THERE BY MYSELF. WHEN IT WAS
OVER. ALL I COULD DO WAS TRY TO
PROCESS WOULD HAVE JUST
HAPPENED. THE JUDGE. IT WAS LIKE
A PARENT. I HAD NEVER KNOWN ANY
OTHER PARENTS SOLD TO HAVE
RECEIVED A SENTENCE OF LIFE
WITHOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF
PAROLE. FROM IN MY MIND THE SAME
THOUGHT. I FIGURED THAT I HAD
SAID IN FRONT OF ALL MY LIFE. I
COULDN'T WRAP MY HEAD AROUND IT.
SENATE BILL 545. CLOSES THAT GAP
IN OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM. MY GOAL
TODAY AS. THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
OF BETTER DAYS IN ORGANIZATION
THAT'S MEANT TO END THE FOSTER
CARE TO PRISON PIPELINE IS TO
ENSURE THAT THERE'S NEVER
ANOTHER CHILD THAT GOES
THROUGHOUT. OR SOCIETY AND
EXPERIENCE IS WHAT I DID. SENATE
BILL 545. IT'S VITAL. TODAY. I'M
A PARENT. I HAVE A 19 MONTH OLD
SON. TODAY. I KNOW WHAT IT IS.
TO PROTECT CHILDREN. TODAY I
KNOW WHAT IT IS TO BE
ACCOUNTABLE. THAT'S PARENT.
TODAY I KNOW WHAT IT IS TO BE A
PROTECTOR OF ALL CHILDREN. AND
MY HOPE IS THAT THIS COMMITTEE
OR DO THE SAME AND PROTECT
CHILDREN. THANK YOU ALL. THANK
YOU, SIR. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE
SARAH'S THAT OKAY. YES. YOU HAVE
ABOUT TWO MINUTES, TWO MINUTES.
OKAY, SO, UM. I THINK THAT THIS
BILL WOULD HELP US ALL COME
TOGETHER AND HAVE CONVERSATIONS
ABOUT THE IMPACTS OF CHILDREN
AND WHAT THE INSTITUTIONS DUE TO
CHILDREN WHO HAVE EXPERIENCED
VIOLENCE FROM EITHER A
TRAFFICKER OR AN ADULT IN THEIR
LIFE AND UNDERSTANDING THE
IMPACT OF WHAT THAT TRAUMA CAN
DO. LONG TERM. UM TODAY I DO
OUTREACH AND I'M COLLECTING DATA
WITH REAL TIME NUMBERS OF FOLKS
THAT I DID TIME WITH IN PRISON.
WHEN I WAS SENTENCED TO LIFE
WITHOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF
PAROLE, UM PLUS FOUR YEARS WHEN
I WAS 16 YEARS OLD. I SHOT AND
KILLED GEORGE HOWARD, WHO BEGAN
INDOCTRINATING ME. TO BE SOLD AS
A SEX SLAVE. UM AND THEN
DOCUMENTATION STARTED FOR ME
WHEN I WAS 11 YEARS OLD. AND BY
THE TIME I WAS 13, I HAD
EXPERIENCED VARIOUS LEVELS OF
ABUSE FROM NOT ONLY MY COMMUNITY
MEMBERS OF THE GANG MEMBERS OF
MY COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO PEOPLE
WHO I FELT IT WAS OKAY TO BUY
CHILDREN. UM SOME OF THE FOLKS
THAT I ENDURED WERE OLDER MEN.
ONE WAS A RETIRED POLICE OFFICER
FROM LOS ANGELES WHO LITERALLY
GAVE ME HIS PUBIC HAIR SO THAT
IF I WAS ARRESTED, UM I WOULD
HAVE EVIDENCE. AND I THINK THAT,
UM POLITICALLY ARGUING OVER
LANGUAGE INSTEAD OF BEING
MORALLY IN ALIGNMENT WITH ASKING
CHILDREN. UM WHAT THEY NEED TO
HEAL AND TO CREATE A SPACE FOR
CHILDREN TO FEEL SAFE, TOO.
EXPOSE AND SHARE SOME OF THE
EXPERIENCES THAT CHILDREN GO
THROUGH. FROM BUYERS. UM. I
THINK THAT THAT SHOULD BE
UNDERSCORED. THIS IS THE SAFE
ACT FOR CHILDREN. I DON'T WANT
TO DO POLITICS. I WANT TO BE
MORALLY IN A LINE BECAUSE I
REMEMBER WHEN THE JUDGE
SENTENCED ME, HE SAID THAT I
LACKED MORAL SCRUPLES. AND HE
COULDN'T FOLLOW THE DISCRETION
OF THE PAROLE BOARD. I MEAN, UM
, C Y A TO RECOMMEND FOR ME TO
COME BACK BECAUSE THEY FELT THAT
I WAS SUITABLE FOR TREATMENT. IT
HAS BEEN OVER 25 YEARS AND WE'RE
STILL HAVING A CONVERSATION IN
CREATING LAWS. TO PUT CHILDREN
FIRST. AND I THINK THAT IF WE
PLACE CHILDREN AND WOMEN FIRST
THAT WE COULD CREATE THE CHANGE
THAT'S NEEDED SO THAT WE CAN
HAVE HEALTHIER LIFESTYLES AND
HEALTHIER COMMUNITIES. THANK YOU
. ARE YOU ANY OTHER WITNESSES
AND SUPPORT. ERIC HARRIS WITH
DISABILITY RIGHTS, CALIFORNIA
AND SUPPORT THANK YOU. DANICA
ROAD ARM ON BEHALF OF INITIATE
JUSTICE AND SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
ARTERY. ANY WITNESSES AND
OPPOSITION. GOOD MORNING CHAIR
MEMBERS. KIM STONE ON BEHALF OF
THE CALIFORNIA DISTRICT
ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION. WE HAVE A
RESPECTFUL OPPOSED UNLESS
AMENDED POSITION THAT DISTRICT
ATTORNEYS AGREE THAT TRAUMA
TRAFFICKING SEXUAL BATTERY CAN
AND SHOULD BE INTRODUCED INTO
EVIDENCE IN THESE CASES, AND WE
AGREE THAT THE JUVENILE COURT
CAN AND SHOULD CONSIDER THIS
EVIDENCE IN DETERMINING WHETHER
TO SEND THE CASE TO ADULT COURT
OR NOT, UM, BUT WE HAVE
PROCEDURAL CONCERNS THAT THE
ADULT COURT UM NOT RELITIGATE
THE UNDERLYING QUESTION OF WHERE
TO RESOLVE THE CASE. UM BUT
RATHER, UH, IF THE CASE IS AN
ADULT COURT ADMIT THAT EVIDENCE
THERE. IF THE CASE IS BEING
DETERMINED WHETHER TO BE IN
JUVENILE COURT OR ADULT COURT,
CONSIDER THE EVIDENCE THERE BUT
DON'T HAVE A SECOND. UM.
DETERMINATION OF WHERE THE CASE
SHOULD BE WHEN IT HAS ALREADY
BEEN DETERMINED BY THE JUVENILE
COURT TO BE SENT UP TO ADULT
COURT. UM, THIS WAS I'VE BEEN
TALKING WITH THE JUVENILE COURT
EXPERTS THIS MORNING, BUT WE'LL
HAVE SORT OF HAVING AMENDED
LETTER NOW GIVEN THE AMENDMENTS,
BUT WE DO. REALLY, UM AGREE WITH
THE AUTHOR'S CONCERNS HAVE A
TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF RESPECT FOR
THE AUTHOR AND THE COMMITTEE AND
THE AMENDMENTS AND, UM YOU KNOW
, HAPPY TO CONTINUE TO, UM TO
WORK TOGETHER ON THE ISSUE.
THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING AGAIN. MARCO GEORGE
ON BEHALF OF CALIFORNIA PUBLIC
DEFENDERS AND THE PACIFIC
JUVENILE DEFENDERS CENTER. WE
ARE IN ACCORD WITH THE GOALS OF
THIS BILL. UM IT. THIS KIND OF
LEGISLATION IS SORELY NEEDED. WE
SUPPORT WHOLEHEARTEDLY THE BILL
AS IN PRINT. WHAT WE'RE
CONCERNED ABOUT IS THE
UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES OF THE
PROPOSED AMENDMENT. AND WE
UNDERSTAND THAT THAT AMENDMENT
IS SEEKING TO MAKE SURE THAT NO
MINOR IS EVER TRANSFERRED IF
THEY ARE THE VICTIM OF CHILD
TRAFFICKING. THE PROBLEM IS THE
UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE AND HOW
THIS WILL PLAY OUT IN THE TRIAL
COURT IS THAT IT SHIFTS THE
BURDEN TO THE DEFENSE. AND RIGHT
NOW, THE REFORMS THAT THIS
LEGISLATURE HAS PASSED OVER THE
LAST FIVE YEARS HAVE CLEARLY
PLACED THE BURDEN ON TRANSFERS
ON THE PROSECUTION. SO THAT IS
OUR CONCERN. WE REALLY
APPRECIATE THE AMENDMENTS THAT
THE AUTHOR TOOK, UM AND THE
FIRST IN THE SENATE, AND WE HOPE
THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO WORK
THIS OUT AND CONVERSATIONS
BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT
THE GOAL WEAK SUPPORT
WHOLEHEARTEDLY. SO THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. ARE THERE
ANY OTHER WITNESSES AND
OPPOSITION? ANY OTHER WITNESSES
IN THAT POSITION. SEEING NONE
WILL BRING IT BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE. ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH.
RIGHT RIGHT. OH MR ISAAC, BUT
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND FOR
SHARING YOUR TESTIMONY. IT IS
INCREDIBLY POWERFUL AND
IMPACTFUL MAKES ALL THE
DIFFERENCE. GOOD BROTHER. IT'S
GOOD TO SEE YOU. LAST TIME I SAW
YOU WE WERE IN LANCASTER PRISON
, SO TO SEE YOU IN THIS PLACE,
FIGHTING AND SHARING, YOU LIVED
AND LEARNED EXPERIENCE TO MAKE A
DIFFERENCE. GRATEFUL TO THE
AUTHOR. IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR
CO AUTHORS, SENATOR RUBIO, I'M
HAPPY TO JOIN YOU ON THIS
RIGHTEOUS EFFORT AND I DO
RECOGNIZE, THOUGH, THAT THE
BURDEN OF PROOF IS NOT LIKE A
MEANINGLESS THING. IT MEANS A
LOT AND HOW THESE THINGS PLAY
OUT, BUT I HAVE THE FULL
CONFIDENCE THAT THE BETWEEN THE
OFFICE YOU'LL GET THIS RIGHT AND
MAKE A MOTION MOVE THE BILL.
MISS PARKER. I SAW AN AD THANK
SENATOR RUBIO FOR BRINGING
FORWARD THIS BILL. IT'S VERY
MUCH IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE BILL
THAT I HAD LAST YEAR THAT WAS
SIGNED IN JULY. 23 61, WHICH
I'VE ALREADY HEARD FEEDBACK. UH
FROM COMMUNITY THAT IT'S MADE A
TREMENDOUS IMPACT AND MAKING
SURE THAT YOUTH ARE NOT TAKEN
AND PUT INTO AN ADULT COURT WHEN
THEY SHOULDN'T BE THIS ISSUE
AROUND. BURDEN OF PROOF IS ONE
OF CONCERN FOR ME. UH THE INTENT
OF A B 23 61 WAS ESSENTIALLY TO
SHIFT THAT BURDEN TO
PROSECUTION. UM AND IN SO DOING
REALLY ALLOWED FOR, UM FOR YOU
TO NOT HAVE TO, UH CREATE A
SITUATION WHERE THEY NEEDED TO
COME UP WITH A CLEAR AND
CONVINCING EVIDENCE IN THIS
PARTICULAR INSTANCE WHEN WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT YOU, TWO HAVE BEEN
HUMAN TRAFFICKED WHO HAVE BEEN
VICTIMS OF SEXUAL ASSAULT FOSTER
YOUTH. THOSE ARE ALL AREAS WHERE
WE ACTUALLY NEED TO ENSURE THAT
THE BURDEN ISN'T SHIFTED TO
THEM. AND THAT ITS REMAINS ON
THE PROSECUTION. SO I'M HOPING
THAT YOU WILL CONSIDER AT
CONTINUING TO WORK WITH UM I
THINK MEDIATED UP OPPOSITION. I
DON'T KNOW IF IT'S OPPOSITION ON
THIS TO ENSURE THAT WE COME UP
WITH A POTENTIAL SOLUTION. ONE.
I THINK THAT MIGHT BE WORTH
CONSIDERATION IS WHETHER WE CAN
CREATE A REBUTTABLE PRESUMPTION
STANDARD WHERE IF YOU SHOWS
CREDIBLE EVIDENCE OF SEXUAL
ASSAULT, AND THE BURDEN SHOWS
BACK TO THE D A TO PROVE THEY
ARE NOT A TRAFFICKING VICTIM.
BECAUSE WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO
IS ALREADY WHERE WE DON'T HAVE
THE RESOURCES FOR PEOPLE
INDIGENOUS DEFENSE AND FOR IN
PUBLIC DEFENSE. WHERE OUT, WE
OUTWEIGH OUR ABILITY TO OFFER
PUBLIC DEFENSE. VERSUS
PROSECUTION TO MAKE SURE THAT
THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN. SO JUST
WONDERED IF THE AUTHOR COULD
ADDRESS ANY UM YEAH. THANK YOU
FOR THAT. THANK YOU FOR THAT AND
ALWAYS HELP IN TAKING TEARING
CONVERSATIONS. UM I KNOW THE
COMMITTEE ASKED FOR SOME
AMENDMENTS, BUT YOU KNOW THE
BILL THAT YOU PASSED LAST YEAR
DOES PUT THE BURDEN ON THE
PROSECUTION OF WHAT THIS BILL
DOES ITS REMAINS THE SAME AGE AS
PUTS THE BURDEN ON THE JUDGE
AFTER HEARING THE EVIDENCE,
WHETHER OR NOT THERE IS CLEAR
AND CONVINCING EVIDENCE THAT THE
CHILD. I'M SORRY THAT THE YOUTH
WAS SEX TRAFFIC, SO THE BURDEN
STORY MAINS ON THE PROSECUTION
TO PROVE. OKAY. ANY OTHER
COMMENT. MYTHS CENTER YOU MAY
CLOSE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO
MUCH. I KNOW THIS IS A VERY
DIFFICULT TOPIC TO DISCUSS AND
EMOTIONAL. FIRST OF ALL I WANT
TO THINK, JARED AND, UH AND
SARAH HERE THANK YOU FOR TELLING
THEIR STORIES. IT'S NOT EASY AND
I'VE BEEN HAVING CONVERSATIONS
WITH THEM AS WELL. AND ALL THESE
ARE TWO BRIEF SOULS THAT CAME
FORWARD AND DISCUSS THEIR
CIRCUMSTANCE. BUT THERE'S SO
MANY SO MANY THAT ARE SILENCED
AND I DON'T WANT TO COME FORWARD
AND YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN AN
ADVOCATE FOR VICTIMS, YOU KNOW
FOR MANY, MANY YEARS NOW, AND I
JUST HOPE THAT AS WE MOVE
FORWARD AGAIN, I WILL OPEN MY
OFFICE TO FURTHER CONVERSATIONS
, BUT I THINK THIS IS A GOOD
BILL TO MOVE FORWARD AND THANK
YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND
CONSIDERATION. YOU KNOW, I WANT
TO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS
FORWARD. I WANT TO THANK BOTH
WITNESSES FOR BEING HERE WHEN
YOU COME BEFORE THIS COMMITTEE,
ESPECIALLY THIS COMMITTEE IS
EXTREMELY DIFFICULT, UM, TO
SHARE UM, YOU'RE PAYING THIS
COMMITTEE, PROBABLY MORE THAN
ANY OTHER. UM I'VE HEARD SOME
REALLY TRAGIC STORIES. TO BE
ABLE TO DO THAT. AND IN PUBLIC,
UM REQUIRES A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF
BRAVERY THAT I DON'T THINK MOST
OF US HAVE. SO I COMMEND BOTH OF
YOU FOR BEING ABLE TO COME HERE
SHARE. IN THE PUBLIC AND LET US
KNOW. UM THE GOOD THING THAT I'M
HEARING SUPPOSED TO A LOT OF
OTHER DISCUSSIONS. ON ON BILLS
THAT COME BEFORE HER. I THINK
THERE IS A SHARED VALUE THAT
BOTH BOTH SIDES DON'T USUALLY
SEE. UM THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S
GROUPS AND THE D A S GROUPS ON
THE SAME SIDE BY DO BELIEVE.
THEY WANT TO FIX THIS, AND I DO
BELIEVE THEY SHARE YOUR PAIN AND
THEY SHARED THAT THEY WANT TO
GET THIS DONE. AND SO, SENATOR,
UM YOU HAVE THE ADVANTAGE WHERE
PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO MAKE THIS
BETTER. UM AND SO I HEAR YOUR
INTENT ABOUT MOVING THINGS SO
THAT THE JUDGE CAN MAKE SOME
KIND OF RENDERING. THIS
COMMITTEE OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS
SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE WE'VE GONE
FROM WHERE WE NEVER TRUSTED
JUDGES TO MAKE DECISIONS TO NOW
WE'RE PUTTING MORE FAITH IN
THEM, AND SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN
GET TO THAT LEVEL OF FAIRNESS TO
WHERE THEY WERE JUST CAN LOOK AT
EVERYTHING. AND THEN MAKE A
CREDIBLE DECISION. SO I BELIEVE
YOU. YOU WILL WORK BECAUSE IT
SOUNDS LIKE A MATTER OF JUST
WORDSMITHING TO GET THIS DONE
UNTIL THE CHAIRS RECOMMENDING AN
I AND I THINK WE HAVE A MOTION
IN THE SECOND CALL THE ROLL. SB
5 45 BY SENATOR RUBIO. THE
MOTION IS DUE PASS AS AMENDED TO
THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE
JOHN SAWYER, ELONIS DENISE, I
BANTA. I REALLY DO HOPE THAT YOU
CONSIDER THOSE AMENDMENTS SELF.
WELL, THANK YOU. BUT I BRIAN,
BRIAN, I LACKEY BACKING UP
VOTING. ORTEGA ORTEGA I SANTIAGO
ZIPPER ZIPPER? AYE. SURE. THAT
MEASURE PASSES. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU ALL. 14. AND OUR
LAST ITEM ITEM NUMBER 14 LAST ON
THE AGENDA AND THE LAST ONE FOR
TODAY. SB 85 TO RUBIO SEARCHES
SUPERVISED PERSONS 14.
MHM OH, THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.
READY TO BEGIN. I'M SORRY YOU
WERE ALREADY FOR ME. THANK YOU,
MR CHAIR. AND ONCE AGAIN, YOUR
STAFF HAS WORKED SO HARD TO HELP
MY OFFICE COME TO TOOK A PLACE
AND, UM, I JUST WANTED TO SAY
THAT I'M VERY PROUD TO PRESENT
RIGHT NOW. SV 8 52 THE PROTECT
ACT. THERE'S A STRAIGHTFORWARD
BILL THAT HAS HAD A LOT OF
SUPPORT. FIRST AT THIS WILL PUT
AN END TO SECTOR TACTICS BY EYES
TO PRETEND TO BE OTHER PUBLIC
SAFETY AGENCIES TO DECEIVE OUR
IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY. AND SECOND
, THIS WILL HELP CREATE JUST
TRUST BETWEEN OUR COMMUNITIES
AND LAW ENFORCEMENT. SO IT'S
BEEN A PRACTICE THAT INDIVIDUALS
WILL PRETEND TO BE. EITHER
PROBATION OFFICERS OR OTHER
PUBLIC SAFETY FOR THE PURPOSE OF
DRAGGING PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR
HOMES AND IN PARTICULAR, WITH
THE PURPOSE OF DEPORTING PEOPLE.
THERE'S TWO ISSUES HERE. FIRST
OF ALL, WE ALSO NEED TO MAKE
SURE THAT THESE TACTICS ARE NOT
EMPLOYED BECAUSE AS A VICTIM'S
ADVOCATE, I ALWAYS SAY WE WANT
FOR TRUST IN OUR PUBLIC SAFETY
WILL WANT PEOPLE TO COME FORWARD
WHEN THERE'S CRIMES WHEN THEY
SEE SOMETHING. ALL ANY OF US
HERE COULD HAVE A FAMILY MEMBER
IN DISTRESS. AND WE WANT EVERY
SINGLE PERSON OF OUR COMMUNITY
CONCLUDING OUR IMMIGRANT
COMMUNITY TO BE ABLE TO COME
FORWARD AND HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT
IF THEY COME FORWARD WITH
EVIDENCE, WHICH IS NEEDED THAT
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE AFRAID
OF BEING DEPORTED, AND SO AGAIN
, THIS IS A VERY CLEAR,
STRAIGHTFORWARD BILL THAT WOULD
STOP THOSE TACTICS OF DECEIVING
A COMMUNITY BY PRETENDING TO BE
OFFICERS WHEN WE REALITY, EITHER
. ICE AGENTS. I HAVE TWO
INDIVIDUALS HERE THAT ARE GOING
TO TESTIFY ON MY BEHALF CENTER
VALENCIA WITH A C L U CALIFORNIA
ACTION, AND ANDREA MARVIS CA
FROM THE CALIFORNIA MAKING
POLICY CENTER MAY TURN IT OVER
TO THEM. FIVE MINUTES. GOOD
MORNING CHAIR AND THE PUBLIC
SAFETY COMMITTEE MEMBERS. MY
NAME IS CYNTHIA VALENCIA,
LEGISLATIVE ADVOCATE WITH THE W
CALIFORNIA ACTION HERE IN
STRONGLY SUPPORT SB 85 TO A
COMMON PRACTICE THAT IMMIGRANT
IMMIGRATION AND CUSTOMS
ENFORCEMENT HAS IS THE
IMPERSONATING OFFICERS FROM
OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES
TO COERCE PEOPLE INTO
COOPERATING UNDER FALSE
PRETENSES. ICE CALLS THESE
INTENTIONAL MISREPRESENTATIONS.
RUSE IS AND THEY HAVE A
PROBATION RULES, WHICH IS WHERE
THEY REPRESENT THEMSELVES. AS
PROBATION OFFICERS ASK A PERSON
TO STEP OUTSIDE OF THEIR HOME OR
CONSENT ENTRY INTO THEIR HOME,
AND PEOPLE ON PROBATION BELIEVE
THAT THEY HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO
COMPLY AND ARE JUST FOLLOWING
THE TERMS OF THEIR PROBATION IN
2020, OUR AFFILIATE AT THE
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA FILED A
LAWSUIT CHALLENGING THESE
IMPERSONATION TACTICS AND OTHER
UNLAWFUL PRACTICES. DURING HOME
ARRESTS THROUGH THIS LITIGATION
OFFICERS HAVE CONFIRMED TO US
THAT THEIR PRACTICE OF USING A
PERSON'S PROBATION STATUS TO
GAIN COMPLIANCE WITH OFFICER
DEMANDS DURING HOME ARRESTS SO
PEOPLE THESE PEOPLE WHO HAVE
BEEN SUBJECTED TO ICE PROBATION
ROSES, THEY HAVE EXPRESSED ANGER
, BETRAYAL AND REPORT THAT THEY
AND THEIR FAMILIES NOW FEEL VERY
WARY OF ALL UNIFORMED OFFICERS.
FEARING THAT THEY ARE ACTUALLY
ICE. BY USING THESE TACTICS, ICE
AGENTS HAVE SOWN DISTRUST OF LAW
ENFORCEMENT AND CAUSED PANIC AND
OUR IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES,
ESPECIALLY THE LATINO COMMUNITY
, THAT IS MOST FREQUENTLY THE
TARGET OF THESE OPERATIONS.
CURRENT CALIFORNIA LAW RESTRICTS
PAROLE SEARCHES AND SEIZURES TO
BE CONDUCTED BY A PROBATION OR
PEACE OFFICER. THEY'RE
SPECIFYING THAT ICE AGENTS ARE
NOT PEACE OFFICERS, HOWEVER,
SOME PROBATION TERMS STILL REFER
TO LEGAL SEARCHES BY LAW
ENFORCEMENT RATHER THAN PEACE
OFFICER. SO ISIS CURRENTLY
EXPLOITING THIS AMBIGUITY AND
LANGUAGE BETWEEN LAW ENFORCEMENT
AND PEACE OFFICER SO THAT THEY
CAN STILL USE PROBATION. RUSE IS
SB 52 IS GOING TO FIX THAT
LANGUAGE, AMBIGUITY AND IT IS
IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE THIS
TRUST IN OUR IMMIGRANT
COMMUNITIES. ELIMINATE THIS
LOOPHOLE MAKE IT CLEAR THAT ICE
AGENTS CANNOT REPRESENT
THEMSELVES AS PROBATION OFFICERS
OR EXPLOIT A PERSON'S PROBATION
STATUS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME
AND CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING, MR CHAIRMAN
MEMBERS. MY NAME IS IN DREAM OF
THIS KIND. THE SENIOR
LEGISLATIVE ADVOCATE WITH THE
CALIFORNIA IMMIGRANT POLICY
CENTER, AS MY COLLEAGUE
MENTIONED CURRENTLY, ICE AGENTS
ARE ABLE TO EXPLOIT A GAP IN THE
LAW, WHICH ALLOWS THEM TO TARGET
IMMIGRANT CALIFORNIANS FOR
DETENTION AND DEPORTATION BY
MASKING AS PROBATION OFFICERS
AND CARRYING OUT UNLAWFUL ROOTS
TACTICS. THE CRIMINAL LEGAL
SYSTEM OPERATES A TWO TIERED
SYSTEM OF JUSTICE, WHERE PEOPLE
ARE SUBJECT TO DOUBLE
PUNISHMENT. AND UM, SIMPLY
BECAUSE OF THE COUNTRY. THEY
WERE BORN IN IMMIGRANT
CALIFORNIANS WHO HAVE EARNED
THEIR RELEASE FROM STATE PRISON
AND ARE TRYING TO COMPLY WITH
THE TERMS OF THEIR PROBATION.
INSTEAD BEING MANIPULATED BY ICE
AND FACING THE HARSH RISKS OF
FAMILY SEPARATION AND
DEPORTATION. THE OFFICERS ARE
NOT. POLICE HAS A PATTERN IN
CALIFORNIA AND ACROSS THE UNITED
STATES OF POSING LIKE THE POLICE
AS A TACTIC TO ACCESS PEOPLE'S
HOMES LYING TO CALIFORNIANS
COERCING PEOPLE INTO COOPERATING
WITH THEM AND ARRESTING
IMMIGRANT CALIFORNIANS,
ACCORDING TO THE C L U AND A LOT
OF LOS ANGELES AREA OF
RESPONSIBILITY ALONE HAS
CONDUCTED AT LEAST 19,000 AT
LARGE ARRESTS FROM 2014 TO 2021.
A SIZABLE NUMBER OF THESE
ARRESTS OCCUR AT HOME
RESIDENCES. THAT NUMBER IS
ALMOST EQUIVALENT TO THE TOTAL
NUMBER OF IMMIGRANTS CURRENTLY
INCARCERATED BY CDCR 20,000,
WHICH I'LL KNOW INCLUDES THOSE
WITH LEGAL, PERMANENT RESIDENT
STATUS OR LEGAL RESIDENTS AS
TEMPORARY PROTECTED STATUS. DACA
AND THOSE WHO ARE UNDOCUMENTED.
WHEN IMMIGRANT CALIFORNIANS ARE
ON PROBATION, THEIR PERSONAL
INFORMATION AND THEIR SAFETY AS
WELL AS THE SAFETY OF THEIR
FAMILIES WITH WHOM THEY LIVE
DESERVE TO BE PROTECTED BY
CLARIFYING THAT MANDATORY
SUPERVISION AND PROBATION
SEARCHES AND SEIZURES CAN ONLY
BE CONDUCTED BY PROBATION
OFFICERS ARE PEACE OFFICERS.
THIS BILL WILL PROHIBIT ICE
AGENTS FROM FALSELY IDENTIFYING
THEMSELVES AS PROBATION OFFICERS
WHEN CONDUCTING AN ARREST OF A
CALIFORNIAN IN THEIR HOME. THESE
ARBITRARY ARRESTS, WHICH ARE NOT
HANDED DOWN BY A JUDGE CREATE A
VICIOUS AND UNFAIR CYCLE OF
PUNISHMENT FOR IMMIGRANT
CALIFORNIANS. UNLAWFUL ROOTS
TACTICS SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACT
BIPAC IMMIGRANTS BY SUBJECTING
THEM TO RACIAL PROFILING, ARREST
AND DETENTION, ALL OF WHICH HAVE
DEVASTATED AND DESTABILIZED TENS
OF THOUSANDS OF INDIVIDUALS,
FAMILIES AND WHOLE COMMUNITIES
ACROSS CALIFORNIA. ASK ME 5 TO 6
TO PUT AN END TO ICE ACTING AS
POLICE AND PROBATION OFFICERS
AND ENSURES THAT IMMIGRANT
CALIFORNIANS WILL NOT BE
TARGETED FOR AN ARBITRARY ARREST
AND INDEFINITE DETENTION BY ICE
SOLELY BECAUSE OF THEIR
PROBATION STATUS. THANK YOU, AND
I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR
VOTE. THANK YOU. UM, ANY OTHER
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT? MARGO
GEORGE, ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA PUBLIC DEFENDERS
ASSOCIATION, AND SUPPORT THANK
YOU. AND SHE SHOULD REPRESENTING
THE L. A. BAKER CENTER FOR HUMAN
RIGHTS AND SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
ARE ANY WITNESSES AND
OPPOSITION. ANY WITNESSES AND
OPPOSITION. BRINGING IT BACK TO
COMMITTEE FOR ANY QUESTIONS,
COMMENTS. SEEN ON YOU MAKE
CLOTHES. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR AND
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. UM, JUST
WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT YOU KNOW HOW
IMPORTANT THIS BILL IS ON TO
FRIENDS FOR ME, UM, AS A
FORMERLY UNDOCUMENTED, DEPORTED
CHILD MYSELF. I KNOW THAT
TRAUMA. THE FAMILIES EXPERIENCE
FIRSTHAND WHEN THEY'RE BEING
DEPORTED. AND YOU KNOW, I
CLEARLY JUST REMEMBER MY PARENTS
FACE WHEN THE CIRCUMSTANCE
HAPPEN. AND SO IT'S BAD ENOUGH
TO BE DEPORTED AND NOT HAVE
LEGAL STATUS AND WE DON'T NEED
TO ADD THESE DECEPTIVE TACTICS
WERE PUBLIC SAFETY. I'M SORRY.
ISIS IMPORTS IMPERSONATING OTHER
OFFICERS, SO THAT FRONT IS BAD
ENOUGH ON THE OTHER FRONT IS WE
NEED TRUST IN OUR PUBLIC
SAFETY'S INDIVIDUALS. WE WANT
OUR COMMUNITY TO PARTICIPATE. WE
WANT OUR COMMUTE TO COME FORWARD
WHEN THEY SEE THINGS AND WE
DON'T WANT THEM AFRAID TO BE
PART OF THE PROCESS AND BE
MEMBERS OF THEIR COMMUNITY. SO
WITH THAT, I ASKED FOR A NOVEL.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, UH, CHAIRS
RECOMMENDED I DO. WE DO THE
EMOTION. SECRETARY CALL THE
ROLL. ON A B 8 52 BY SENATOR
RUBIO. THE MOTION IS DUE PASS
JOHN SAWYER CHEN SER ELONIS
COLONIES. I GOTTA I BRIAN, BRIAN
, I LACKEY LACKEY. I ORTEGA
ORTEGA I SANTIAGO. SANTIAGO EYES
SUBIR SUBIR I MEASURE PASSES.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. EVERYONE
HAVE A GOOD DAY. WELL NOW. WAIT.
WELL NOW GO THROUGH ALL THE
OTHER ITEMS ON ANY ADD ON THE
VOTE CHANGES. MADAM SECRETARY,
PLEASE GO THROUGH ALL THE
MEASURES TAKEN UP TODAY. ON THE
CONSENT CALENDAR. BRIAN ALL
RIGHT, BRIAN. I SUBURB SUPER.
AYE. ITEM ONE SB 78 WAS ON
CONSENT. I DON'T NUMBER TWO SB
86 WAS ON CONSENT ITEM NUMBER
THREE SB 2 50 WAS ON CONSENT
ITEM NUMBER FOUR SB 2 90 WITH
SOME CONSENT ITEM NUMBER FIVE SB
359 WAS PULLED BY THE AUTHOR HAD
A NUMBER SIX SB 3 76 WAS ON
CONSENT. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN SB
400. THIS BILL WAS FOR TESTIMONY
ONLY EARLIER. IS THERE A MOTION
CHECK. SB 400 BY SENATOR WAHAB.
THE MOTION IS DUE PASS AS
AMENDED. JOHN SAWYER JONES, I
ELONIS. DENISE. I BANTA BANTA. I
BRIAN, BRIAN, I LACKEY A LACKEY
NOT VOTING. ORTEGA ORTEGA I
SANTIAGO SANTIAGO EYES LABOR
SUPER AYE. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT SP
4 12. THIS IS ALSO FOR TESTIMONY
OR EARLIER IN THE HEARING. IS
THERE A MOTION. ON SB 4 12 BY
SENATOR ARCHULETTA. THE MOTION
IS DUE PASSED TO THE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE. JOHN
SAWYER. JOHN SO, YOUR EYE ELONIS
ELONIS. AYE BONTA. BRIAN BRIAN,
I LAKI LAKI. AYE, ORTEGA OR TAKE
OUR EYES SANTIAGO. SANTIAGO
EISENBERG. SUPER AYE. ITEM
NUMBER NINE. THIS MEASURE WAS
ALSO FOR TESTIMONY. ONLY SB 4
17. IS THERE A MOTION? 30
SECONDS. SB 4 17 BY SENATOR
BLAKE SPEAR. THE MOTION IS DUE
PAST JOHN SAWYER. JOHN SIR ALAN
EASE, ELONIS. AYE BONTA TÔI
BRIAN BRIAN, I LACKEY. NOT
VOTING LACKEY NOT VOTING. ORTEGA
ORTEGA I SANTIAGO SANTIAGO
EISENBERG. SUPER AYE. ITEM
NUMBER 10 SB 448 WAS ON CONSENT.
I DON'T NUMBER 11. SB 545 BY
SENATOR RUBIO SANTIAGO. HI,
SANTIAGO. AYE. ITEM NUMBER 12 SB
602 WAS PULLED BY THE AUTHOR.
ITEM NUMBER 13 SB 7 62 WAS ON
CONSENT AND ITEM 14 SB 8 52 WAS
JUST DISPENSED WITH THANK YOU.
AND THAT CONCLUDES THE PUBLIC
SAFETY COMMITTEE MEETINGS. YOU
DIDN'T SEE ME. JUST LIKE.