GIVE EVERYBODY- AND WELCOME TO
THE JUNE TWENTIETH DURING THE
BUSINESS PROFESSIONS COMMITTEE
WE ARE. IN NEED OF A REPUBLICAN
COLLEAGUE SO IF ALL OF YOUR
REPUBLICAN STAFFERS ARE WATCHING
ON TV GO PLEASE FIND YOUR BOSS
BRING THEM DOWN TO ROOM TEN
TWENTY ONE THIS QUICKLY AS
POSSIBLE THANK YOU VERY MUCH-
SORRY IT'S TEN TWENTY ONE-
STREET ROOM ELEVEN HUNDRED YA
KNOW WHAT I MEAN RESURGENT. LAKE
CITY OUTSIDE YEAH.
YEAH EXACTLY. ALL RIGHT I SEE WE
HAVE A BI PARTISAN
REPRESENTATION. MAKING AN GOOD
MORNING WELCOME TO THIS
MORNING'S BUSINESS AND
PROFESSIONS COMMITTEE HEARING WE
HAVE TEN BILLS ON TODAY'S AGENDA
NINE SENATE BILLS AND ONE
ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION INCLUDING
THE FOLLOWING TWO BILLS ON
CONSENT SB SIX A ONE BY CENTER
MCGUIRE IN SB SIX THIRTY BY
SENATOR DODD FOR EACH MEASURE
BEING PRESENTED TODAY WILL BE
ALLOWING PRIMARY WITNESSES HERE
IN THE ROOM TODAY TO SPEAK FOR A
DAY FOR UP TO TWO MINUTES EACH.
WITH UP TO TWO PRIMARY WITNESSES
PER SIDE ANY ADDITIONAL
WITNESSES WILL BE LIMITED TO
NAME POSITION ON THE BILL AND
THE ORGANIZATION THEY REPRESENT
IF ANY FOR THOSE WISHING TO
PROVIDE FURTHER COMMENTS WE ARE
ACCEPTING WRITTEN TESTIMONY
THROUGH THE POSITION LETTER
PORTAL ON THE COMMITTEE'S
WEBSITE AND WITH THAT WILL BEGIN
TODAY'S HEARING AND I SEE-
PROGRAM ATKINS- WITH AGENDA
NUMBER FIVE SB THREE EIGHTY
FIVE. WE ARE READY FOR YOU
WHENEVER YOU ARE. WELL THANK YOU
MISTER CHAIRMAN AND COLLEAGUES.
I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
PRESENT SB THREE EIGHTY FIVE.
THIS IS MY FIRST BILL IN THE NEW
ASSEMBLY SO I'M PRETTY EXCITED.
I I'M HERE TO PRESENT SB THREE
EIGHTY FIVE LAST YEAR AS
REPRODUCTIVE FREEDOM FACE
UNPRECEDENTED THREATS FROM THE
SUPREME COURT. AND OTHER STATES
CALIFORNIA TOOK BOLD ACTION TO
PROTECT AND EXPAND ACCESS TO
QUALITY REPRODUCTIVE CARE. AS
OTHER STATES CONTINUE TO A ROAD
ACCESS TO ABORTIONS IT'S CLEAR
THAT WE NEED TO REMAIN STEADFAST
AND DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO
INCREASE THE NUMBER. OF TRAIN
PROVIDERS AVAILABLE TO
CALIFORNIANS AND THOSE WHO NEED
TO COME HERE FOR REPRODUCTIVE
HEALTH CARE. AND TO THAT END SB
THREE EIGHTY FIVE WOULD IMPROVE
REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH CARE
TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES FOR
PHYSICIANS ASSISTANTS. AND
ENABLE THEM TO PROVIDE FIRST
TRIMESTER ABORTIONS WITHIN THE
SCOPE OF THEIR CLINICAL AND
THEIR PROFESSIONAL EDUCATION AND
TRAINING. THIS BUILDS OFF OF THE
SUCCESS OF SEVERAL OF MY PRIOR
BILLS BOTH WHICH WERE SIGNED
INTO LAW TO STRENGTHEN ACCESS TO
ABORTION AND INCREASE THE NUMBER
OF PROVIDERS IN OUR STATE. IN
TWENTY THIRTEEN AUTHORED AB ONE
FIFTY FOUR WHICH ALLOWED NURSE
PRACTITIONERS CERTIFIED NURSE
MIDWIVES AND PHYSICIANS
ASSISTANTS TO PROVIDE FIRST
TRIMESTER ABORTIONS. LAST YEAR I
AUTHORED SB THIRTEEN SEVENTY
FIVE AND AGAIN I THANK YOU FOR
HELPING WORK. OUT WITH ME ON
THAT PIECE OF LEGISLATION TO
UPDATE TRAINING STANDARDS AND
ADDRESS WORKFORCE VARIOUS FOR
NURSE PRACTITIONERS AND
CERTIFIED NURSE MIDWIVES SEEKING
TO PROVIDE FIRST TRIMESTER.
ABORTION CARE SB THREE EIGHTY
FIVE WOULD APPLY THE SAME
TRAINING STANDARDS TWO PHYSICIAN
ASSISTANTS THAT SB THIRTEEN
SEVENTY FIVE ESTABLISH FOR NURSE
PRACTITIONERS AND CERTIFIED
NURSE MIDWIVES. IT FURTHER
STRENGTHENS AND EXPANDS ACCESS
TO REPRODUCTIVE CARE WHILE ALSO
LIFTING UP WORKFORCE OF SKILLED
PHYSICIAN ASSISTANTS AND GIVING
THEM MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO CARE
FOR THEIR PATIENTS- I WOULD
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR
SUPPORT AND I HAVE TWO PRIMARY.
OF FOLKS IN SUPPORT TODAY- WITH
YOUR PERMISSION MALI ROBE SENATE
JENNIFER. THANK GREAT YOU VERY
MUCH. PURDOM ACTIONS IN AND JUST
HOLD ON ONE SECOND WE'RE GOING
TO SELL A QUORUM QUICK THEN
WE'LL GET WITH A PRESS.
ANNOUNCER PLEASE CALL ROLL OF
THE- BERMAN HERE. LARA ALANIZ.
ALVAREZ FANS. BONTA CHEN. DIXON
GIPSON. GRAYSON IRWIN. JACKSON
WE- LOWENTHAL. MCCARTY I CAN-
WHEN. PATTERSON THANK. WE HAVE
ONE. RIGHT WE HAVE A QUORUM
PLEASE CONTINUE. BURNING CHAIR
NUMBERS JANTJIES WITH THE
UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA THE UC
IS PLEASED TO SUPPORT SB THREE
EIGHTY FIVE BY CENTER ATKINS
WHICH ALLOWS PHYSICIANS
ASSISTANTS OR PDAS WITH THE
REQUISITE TRAINING TO PERFORM
ABORTIONS BY ASPIRATION
TECHNIQUES INDEPENDENT OF DIRECT
PHYSICIAN SUPERVISION. WHILE THE
LEGISLATURE HAS WORKED OUT
DILIGENTLY TO EXPAND
CALIFORNIA'S ABORTION PROVIDING
WORKFORCE SIGNIFICANT OBSTACLES
REMAIN OVER 40% OF CALIFORNIA
COUNTIES DO NOT HAVE CLINICS
THAT PROVIDE ABORTIONS EACH
CALIFORNIA COUNTIES PARTICULARLY
THOSE IN THE FAR NORTH AND EAST
LOCKED EVEN ONE LICENSE OBGYN IN
TWENTY TWENTY. AND A GROWING
BODY OF RESEARCH HAS FOUND THAT
PA'S ARE MORE LIKELY THAN
PHYSICIANS PROVIDE CARE IN RURAL
AREAS INTO LOW INCOME AND
UNDERSERVED POPULATIONS
APPROXIMATELY FOURTEEN THOUSAND
SIX HUNDRED ACTIVE LICENSE P. AS
IN CALIFORNIA. BY ENABLING MORE
TRAINING QUALIFY PA'S THE BILITY
PROVIDE FIRST TRIMESTER ABORTION
CARE SB THREE EIGHTY FIVE WOULD
HELP CLOSE THE PROVIDER CAPPING
COMMUNITIES WHERE ACCESS TO
HEALTH CARE IS ALREADY A
CHALLENGE THE UNIVERSITY OF
CALIFORNIA REMAINS COMMITTED TO
ENSURING ACCESS TO REPRODUCTIVE
HEALTH CARE IS PRESERVING ITS
MADE IN CALIFORNIA RESPECTFULLY
ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF SB THREE
EIGHTY FIVE. THANKS THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING MOLLY ROBSON WITH
PLANNED PARENTHOOD AFFILIATES OF
CALIFORNIA WE REPRESENT THE
SEVEN AFFILIATES IN THE STATE
WHO PROVIDES ACTUALLY PROACTIVE
HEALTH CARE- THROUGH OVER A
HUNDRED AND TEN HEALTH CENTERS
IN CALIFORNIA. HERE TODAY IN
SUPPORT OF SB THREE EIGHTY FIVE.
ALMOST A YEAR AGO TODAY THE U.
S. SUPREME COURT OVERTURNED ROE
V. WADE. AND SENDS ABORTION
PROVIDERS AND THEIR PATIENTS
HAVE FACED A NEW ONSLAUGHT OF
UNPRECEDENTED ATTACKS ON
ABORTION. I TODAY TWENTY STATES
HAVE IMPLEMENTED EITHER A TOTAL
BAN OR A SEVERE RESTRICTION ON
ABORTION AND ACROSS THE COUNTRY
. CALIFORNIA MUST ENSURE THAT
THE ABORTION WORKFORCE IN
CALIFORNIA REMAINS RESILIENT
EMITS THE ATTACKS ON ABORTION.
AND ENSURE THAT THOSE WHO ARE
ABLE AND WILLING TO PROVIDE THIS
CARE ARE TRAINED TO DO SO
WITHOUT UNNECESSARY BARRIERS. SB
THREE EIGHTY FIVE WILL UPDATE
THE TRAINING STANDARDS AND
REQUIREMENTS FOR PHYSICIAN
ASSISTANTS TO BE IN LINE WITH
THAT OF OTHER ADVANCED PRACTICE
CLINICIANS. TO CONTINUE TO MEET
THE NEEDS OF PATIENTS IN
CALIFORNIA AND THOSE FORCED TO
SEE CARING CALIFORNIA. FROM BAND
STATES WE MUST ENSURE THAT WE
CONTINUE TO EXPAND AND SUPPORT
THE ABORTION WORK FORCE. AND
WITH THAT I WOULD RESPECTFULLY
URGE YOUR SUPPORT TODAY THANK
YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH- AND
WITH THAT. WANNA OPEN UP TO ANY
PRIMER WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION
TO ANY PRIMER WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION IN THE HEARING ROOM
TODAY. SEEING NONE OUT WHEN WE
GO TO IT TO ADD ON TESTIMONY
WON'T ISSUE EVERYONE AT ONCE
FOLKS IN SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION
ALL THE SAME TIME IF YOU WANT TO
ADD ON TO THE BILL- PLEASE
PROVIDE YOUR NAME ORGANIZATION
YOU'RE WITH. IF ANY AND POSITION
ON THE BILL. GOOD MORNING
GENESIS GONZALEZ ON BEHALF OF
THE TENET GOVERNOR LENNY COMMA
LAKIS IN SUPPORT THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL- FOLKS
IN THE HEARING ROOM ONE ADD ON
IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION. SEEING
NOT GONNA BRING BACK A
COLLEAGUES FOR QUESTIONS
COMMENTS MOTION SECONDS. WHY
GROUP WE DON OF COFFEE HAVE A
MOTION. COUPLE SECONDS. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH AT ANY. COMMENTS.
QUESTIONS KNOW SEEING NONE.
PRETTY MECCANS WOULD YOU LIKE TO
CLOSE TAKE ADVANTAGE AND SAY-
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN AYE
VOTE. THANK YOU THANK YOU
PROTECT BIRD AMERICANS FOR BRING
FOR- THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT BOTH
FOR THE FULLY SUPPORT INCREASING
ACCESS. TO ABORTION CARE WHERE
WE CAN- PARTICULARLY WITH THE
REALLY DISTURBING CONVERSATIONS
HAPPENING OTHER STATES ACROSS
THE COUNTRY- ON THIS ISSUE AND
I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO SUPPORT
YOUR BILL TODAY. A MADAM
SECRETARY PLEASE CALL VOTE. SB
THREE EIGHTY FIVE ATKINS THE
MOTION IS DUE PASSED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY- BERMAN.
AYE BERMAN I FLORA. FLORA NO
ALANIZ. ALVAREZ ALVAREZ I PAINS.
PAINS I BONTA. BONTA AYE CHAN.
CHAN NOTE DIXON. GIPSON GRAYSON.
GRAYSON I IRWIN. IRWIN I JACKSON
JACKSON AYE LI. LI I LOWENTHAL
BONTA AYE MCCARTY MCCANN- MAKE
INNER I WENT WHEN I PATTERSON.
PATTERSON NOTING. THANK I. GREAT
THE BILL IS OUT WILL BE THE ROLE
OPEN THANK YOU VERY MUCH I'M
GONNA HAND THE GAVEL OVER VICE
HER FOR AWHILE AGO PRESENTS IN
ELECTIONS. THANK YOU MISTER
FLOOR. THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR
ALL RIGHT NEXT UP WE HAVE SOONER
MENJIVAR PRESENTING. SB. THREE
SEVENTY TWO.
IT'S NOT ON MAYBE HIT THE BUTTON
. THERE WE GO GOOD MORNING
ASSEMBLY MEMBERS I'M HOPE YOU'RE
ALL DOING WELL I'M HERE TO TALK
ABOUT WILL HAVE TO BILLS WITH
THE FIRST ONE IS ON MY SB THREE
SEVEN TWO THE RESPECT FOR NAMES
ACT- THIS BILL I'M VERY PROUD TO
SAY THE BIPARTISAN BILL WITH ONE
OF YOUR COLLEAGUES I MEAN IT'S
LOOKING TO PROTECT THE PRIVACY
ENSURE THE SAFETY OF.
TRANSGENDER NON BINARY
INDIVIDUALS THOSE WHO ARE UNDER
THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S SAFE AT
HOME PROGRAM BY ELIMINATING THE
USE OF PREVIOUS NAMES AT THE DC
APRIL LICENSE PROFESSIONALS WHO
HAVE CHANGED THEIR LEGAL NAME
ENSURING THIS IS ONLY FOR
INDIVIDUALS TO LEGALLY CHANGE
THEIR NAME FOR THOSE WE DON'T
KNOW. THE SAFE AT HOME PROGRAM
IS IN PART FOR INDIVIDUALS WHO
ARE VICTIMS SURVIVORS OF
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE HARASSMENT
STALKING WHOSE THEIR KNOWN
LOCATION IS IMPORTANT TO KEEP
PRIVATE IN ADDITION FOR THOSE
WHO DON'T KNOW WHEN A
TRANSGENDER NON BINARY
INDIVIDUAL TRANSITIONS ILLEGALLY
CHANGES THEIR NAME THEIR DEAD
NAME OR NAME IS THEIR NAME
ASSIGNED AT BIRTH. CURRENTLY
ANYONE UNDER THE DCA WHICH
LICENSE FOLKS RANGING FROM
MEDICARE TO SOCIAL WORKERS WHO
LEGALLY CHANGED HER NAME STILL
HAVE THEIR DONE NAME ASSIGNED SO
WHAT YOU'LL SEE ON THE BREEZE
SYSTEM IS. THEIR LEGAL NAME AND
BELOW WITH THEIR DAD NAME.
OBVIOUSLY OUTING THE INDIVIDUAL
INDIVIDUAL WHO IS TRANSGENDER.
WE KNOW THAT WE'VE SEEN IT
INCREASE OF HARASSMENT
DISCRIMINATION STOCKING OF A
TRANSGENDER INDIVIDUAL I MEAN
THIS IS ANOTHER WAY TO ENSURE
THAT WE'RE NOT OUTING SOMEONE.
IT WILL REMOVE A LICENSE
PREVIOUS NAME FROM THERE ONLY
FOR TO CATION SITE UPON REQUEST
SO. IF I WAS IN A TRANSGENDER
INDIVIDUAL I WOULD CALL- AND
REQUEST FOR MY DAD NAME TO BE
REMOVED. AT THIS DOES LEAVE THE
ONUS ON THE INDIVIDUAL TO CALL
AND ENSURE THAT THAT NAME IS
RECEIVED YOU SEE A IS NOT GOING
TO AUTOMATICALLY. CHANGE IT ON
THEIR OWN. TO ENSURE THAT WE
ALSO HAVE PROTECTION FOR KERR
FOR CONSUMERS- WE WILL. BECAUSE
THE LICENSE NUMBER FOLLOWS YOU
NO MATTER WHAT IF YOU GOT
MARRIED DIVORCED CHANGER NAME
THAT LICENSE NUMBER STAYS WITH
YOU. THROUGHOUT YOUR CAREER-
EVERYTHING IN TERMS OF
ENFORCEMENT- DISCIPLINARY ACTION
DOES FOLLOW YOU BECAUSE IT'S THE
SAME LICENSE NUMBER. OR ADDING
ADDITIONAL PROTECTIONS FOR
ABOUT- DEBRIS SYSTEM THE BREEZE
ONLINE SYSTEM IS WHERE YOU WOULD
HAVE- HIT HISTORY OF ENFORCEMENT
HISTORY OF DISCIPLINARY ACTION-
BECAUSE IT'S A DIFFERENT NAME
PERHAPS I AS A CONSUMER. I AM
LOOKING FOR A THERAPIST THAT I
HAVE. A FILE AGAINST A REPORT
AGAINST- AND I'M LOOKING TO SEE
IF THAT'S ON THERE AND I'M
LOOKING FOR THE NAME THAT I USED
TO KNOW THAT THAT I KNEW THEM BY
IN THEIR NAME IS DIFFERENT. I
LOOK IT UP THAT NAME DOESN'T-
DOESN'T COME UP HOWEVER THERE
WILL BE A NO UNDERNEATH THAT
SAYS THIS INDIVIDUAL HAS-
ENFORCEMENT ACTION PLEASE CALL
THE DCA FOR MORE INFORMATION. WE
WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
CONSUMER HAS ALL THE INFORMATION
ACCESSIBLE AT THEIR FINGERTIPS
TO KNOW AT MINIMUM THAT THERE IS
ENFORCEMENT ACTION FOR AN
INDIVIDUAL TO HAS- A HISTORY OF
DISCIPLINARY ACTION. THIS
STRIKES A BALANCE BETWEEN
CONSUMER PROTECTION AND IT'S
SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN
WORKING ON THE SENATE SIDE WITH
THE COMEDIAN I THINK THE
COMMITTEE FOR THEIR WORK ON
THIS- BUT IT STRIKES A BALANCE
BETWEEN CONSUMER PROTECTION AN
INTEGRAL LICENSE PRIVACY. SO
HERE TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OF
THIS BILL I HAVE TO INDIVIDUALS.
UNDER DR. ZENIA CLINICAL
FORENSIC. AND JOHN AFFIRMATIVE
STE. PAUL FALL BY. A JUDGE JOHN
FOR- A SENIOR AB PAUL ALLEGE
LIBERAL. CALIFORNIA CAN CAN
BEHAVIOR EIGHT. THANK YOU SO
MUCH INTERNAL. FIRST WITH TWO
MINUTES APIECE. THANK YOU
PERFECT A GOOD MORNING AS
STEAMED ASSEMBLY MEMBERS MY NAME
IS DOCTOR TRISTEN BOUSTANY I'M A
LICENSED CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGIST
IN OUR STATE OF CALIFORNIA. THE
MAJORITY OF MY FIFTEEN YEAR
CAREER I HAVE ALSO BEEN A CIVIL
SERVANT WORKING DIRECTLY WITH
SOME OF OUR MOST UNDERSERVED
VULNERABLE. AND DANGEROUS
PATIENT POPULATIONS I AM ALSO A
TRANSGENDER MAN. IT HAS BEEN
NEARLY A DECADE SINCE I WAS
GRANTED A CONFIDENTIAL COURT
ORDERED NAME CHANGE AND HAD MY
ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE
SEALED THIS FACT IS DIRECTLY
CORRELATED WITH MY SAFETY AS A
TRANSGENDER MAN MY DAD NAME NAME
ASSIGNED AT BIRTH BEEN STRONGLY
ASSOCIATED WITH THE FEMALE
IDENTITY MAKING AN IMMEDIATE
SOURCE FOR AUDI ME AS
TRANSGENDER. DESPITE THIS I'VE
BEEN SUBJECT TO HARASSMENT AND
THREATS LOSS OF JOB
OPPORTUNITIES IN INCOME AND THEY
PUBLICLY OUTED WITHOUT MY
CONSENT AS A RESULT OF OUR
STATE'S CURRENT PRACTICE OF DEAD
NAMING TRANSGENDER. AND NON
BINARY LICENSEES AND PUBLIC
RECORD RECORD. AS A RESULT OF
THESE DISCLOSURES I HAVE BEEN
DESPICABLE REFERRED TO USING MY
DAD NAMED BY DISGRUNTLED FORMER
PATIENTS AND CO WORKERS HAD NEW
CLIENTS REFUSE TO WORK WITH ME
OR CANCEL CARE ABRUPTLY. BEEN
THREATENED WITH VIOLENCE AND
SEXUAL HARM WORKING WITH
PATIENTS IN OUR CORRECTIONAL BY
ENVIRONMENTS BEEN SUBJECT TO
EXTORTION ATTEMPTS AND I
PROVISIONAL JOB OFFERS RESCINDED
AFTER MY LICENSING RECORD WAS
TRACKED. CONSUMER PROTECTION HAS
BEEN CITED AS A PRIMARY
OPPOSITION TO THE PASSAGE OF SB
THREE SEVENTY TWO YET THE ACT OF
DEAD NAMING TRANSGENDER AND NON
BINARY LICENSEES PUT ART PUTS
OUR LIVES AND LIVELIHOOD AT RISK
ON A DAILY BASIS WHICH DIRECTLY
AFFECTS. ACCESS TO CARE FROM
ETHICAL HARDWORKING AND
UPSTANDING PROFESSIONALS
INCREASING THE RISK OF HARM TO
BOTH LICENSEES AND CONSUMERS.
THE ACT OF DEAD NAMING
TRANSGENDER AND NON BINARY
LICENSEES IN PUBLIC RECORD IS A
DISCRIMINATORY. TORY PRACTICE
THAT IMPACTS OUR PERSONAL AND
PROFESSIONAL LIVES AND IMPEDES
OUR ABILITY TO SERVE THE PUBLIC.
THE PASSAGE OF SB THREE SEVENTY
TWO BUT ALLOW US TO ENGAGE IN
OUR WORK WITH RESPECT DIGNITY
AND SAFETY ALL PEOPLE DESERVE. I
THINK YOU SENATOR MANAGE OF OUR
FOR YOUR IMPORTANT WORK IN THIS
AREA. AND THANK YOU CHAIRMAN AND
ESTEEMED ASSEMBLY MEMBERS URGING
AYE VOTE ON SB THREE SEVENTY
TWO. THANK YOU SO MUCH NEXT
WITNESS. JERRY MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE THING YOU. HIS NAME MY
NAME IS CHANDRA INTERESTING
ADVOCATE THE CAL COUNCIL
COMMUNITY BE REALTY. CBJ ARE
ASSOCIATION RIGHT. BEHAVIORAL
HEALTH PER. ACROSS THE STATE WHO
SERVE OVER MILLION CALIFORNIANS
OF VITAL MENTAL HEALTH AND
SUBSTANCE USE SERVICES. ASSEMBLY
FORTY IN STRONG SUPPORT OF SB
THREE SEVENTEEN CBJ IS A PROUD
CO SPONSOR. THE BILL RECOGNIZES
THE IMPORTANCE OF SAFEGUARDING
THE RIGHTS AND SAFETY OF BOTH
PROVIDERS AND CONSUMERS. BY
PRESERVING TRANSPARENCY AND
ACCOUNTABILITY IT RESPECTS THE
JOURNEY OF TRANSPIRES AND
PROTECTS THE RIGHT TO BE
RECOGNIZED AS WHO THEY TRULY
ARE. BY ALLOWING TRANS PROVIDERS
TO ALIGN THEIR PROFESSIONAL
IDENTITY WITH THEIR AUTHENTIC
SELVES SB THREE SEVENTY FOSTERS
AN ENVIRONMENT OF INCLUSIVITY
AND RESPECT. IT ENSURES THEY CAN
SERVE THEIR CLIENTS WITH
CONFIDENCE. AND DIGNITY
PROMOTING TRUST WOULD STRENGTHEN
STRENGTHENS THERAPEUTIC
RELATIONSHIPS. IT'S IMPORTANT TO
NOTE THIS BILL DOES NOT HINDER
CONSUMERS ABILITY TO FILE
COMPLAINT WHEN NECESSARY. THE
AVENUES FOR ADDRESSING CONCERNS
AND ENSURING QUALITY CARE REMAIN
INTACT. OUR MEMBER AGENCIES
OFTEN PLAY PROVIDERS WHO HAVE
TRANSITION AND WE HAVE WITNESSED
FIRST HAND THE CHALLENGES THEY
FACE DUE TO OUTDATED
REGULATIONS. SB THREE SEVENTY
WOULD RECTIFY THIS AND PROVIDE
THEM WITH PROTECTION AND
RECOGNITION THEY DESERVE. IN
CONCLUSION I URGE YOU TO SUPPORT
SB THREE SEVEN TWO IS A VITAL
STEP TOWARD SAFEGUARDING THE
RIGHTS AND IDENTITY OF TRANS
BEHAVIORAL HEALTH PROVIDERS. IN
ENSURING THE SAFETY OF THEIR
CLIENTS HELP US EMBRACE A FUTURE
WHERE INCLUSIVITY AND RESPECT
THRIVE IN OUR BEHAVIORAL HEALTH
COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
SO MUCH. ANY LEAD WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION TO SB THREE SEVENTY
TWO. C. NINE WILL DO OUT ON
TESTIMONY FOR SUPPORT AND
OPPOSITION FOR SB. THREE SEVENTY
TWO. SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION.
CHAIR AND MEMBER POLIO TO BE OF
THE CAL STATUS. SICK I CAL
ACADEMY CHILD AS ADULTS.
PSYCHIATRY FOR ONE TO COSTA THE
SECOND A STRONG SUPPORTER DR
VOTE THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THE
MORNING CHAIR AND MEMBERS MY
COLLEAGUES AND I BEHALF OF THE
QUALITY CAL. SUPPORT YOU. MY
NAME'S KATHLEEN HOUSTON ABOARD
CERTIFIED BEHAVIOR ANALYST IN A
LICENSED MARRIAGE AND FAMILY
THERAPIST AND I'M STEP IN
SUPPORT OF RECENTLY. THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING SHARON MEMBERS I'M
DOCTOR CORINNE MCINTOSH SOPKO
I'M A LICENSED PSYCHOLOGIST AND
LICENSED MARRIAGE FAMILY
THERAPIST. OF THE PRESIDENT OF
THE FACT MOVE ALWAYS
PSYCHOLOGICAL ASSOCIATION AND WE
ARE IN STRONG SUPPORT. OF SB
THREE SEVEN TWO THANK YOU. YOU.
MORNING SURE MEMBERS JAMES
MICHAEL POWELL WITH ASSAM
CALIFORNIANS STRONG SUPPORT.
MISTER CHAIRMAN FIRST CARS WITH
TEARS ON BEHALF OF C. CABINS
ABOARD THE BILL THANK YOU. NOT
GOOD MORNING A JENNIFER ALLEN
WITH CALIFORNIA'S. ASSOCIATION
AND A STRONG SUPPORT ONE OF THE
CO SPONSORS THANK YOU. GOOD
MORNING REBECCA GONZALEZ WITH
THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF
SOCIAL WORKERS CALIFORNIA
CHAPTER ALSO A CO SPONSOR IN
STRONG SUPPORT. SO MY AND HER ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
ASSOCIATION OF MARRIAGE AND
FAMILY THERAPIST ALSO ONE OF THE
PROUD CO SPONSORS OF THE BILL.
THE MORE ENTERED THE RUNNING
TERRORIST JUST AROUND CALIFORNIA
DENTAL ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. THE MORNING MOLLY
ROBSON WITH PLANNED PARENTHOOD
AFFILIATES OF CALIFORNIANS. FOR
GOOD MORNING COREY HAS SHE TO
WITH THE STEINBERG INSTITUTE IN
SUPPORT THANK YOU. MORNING ANNA
PAYNE ALLEYS LICENSE LIKE A
THERAPIST IN SUPPORT THANK YOU
VERY MUCH ANYONE ELSE IN SUPPORT
AND OPPOSITION. C. NOT BRING
BACK TO THE COMMITTEE. THIS OR
WHAT. THANK YOU- SENATOR MENSCH
OF ALL RIGHT I REALLY THANK YOU
FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD I
THINK THIS IS A- VERY IMPORTANT
ISSUE YOU AND I HAVE HAD SOME
DISCUSSIONS ABOUT MAKING SURE.
THAT CONSUMERS ARE PROTECTED IN
REGARD TO DISCIPLINARY ACTIONS
AND THE LANGUAGE IN THE BILL
RIGHT NOW IS A LITTLE BIT VAGUE
ON IT BUT- YOUR STAFF IT SAID
YOU'RE WILLING TO. VERIFY THAT
LANGUAGE AND MAKE IT. MAKE IT
MORE CLEAR AND I JUST WANT TO
ADD YEAH I THINK IT'S ONLY
MEMBER IN YOU KNOW- AFTER A
CONVERSATION I DID REACH OUT WE
DID REACH OUT TO DCA- OUR INTENT
AND THEY KNOW OUR INTENT IS TO
ENSURE THAT THERE IS. VISIBLY
NOTICEABLE A SECTION THAT SAYS
THIS INDIVIDUAL HAS ENFORCEMENT
ACTION. OF SO THE CONSUMER WOULD
KNOW SO WE ARE GONNA BE FURTHER
CLARIFYING THAT- WITH DCA AND
WEARING AS FOR TECHNICAL
ASSISTANCE OR ENSURE THAT IT'S
EVEN MORE CLEAR. IN THE BILL I
CERTAINLY APPRECIATED AND- I'D
LIKE. THANKS VERY MUCH WE HAVE A
MOTION. IT WAS SET. YES THANK
YOU. OF THANK YOU VERY MUCH-
SENATOR AND THANK YOU TO THE-
TESTIMONY OF THE WITNESSES TO
REALLY. HELP US UNDERSTAND OF
WHAT YOU'RE HOPING TO ACCOMPLISH
I ACTUALLY HAD A SIMILAR
QUESTION IN IN MAY BE IF YOU
COULD JUST- WALK ME THROUGH IF
YOU'RE A CONSUMER. WHAT YOU
WOULD EXPECT OF SOMEONE'S
LOOKING FOR SOMEONE ARE LOOKING
SOMEBODY UP ON THE WEBSITE I
ASSUME- WHAT THEY SHOULD EXPECT
I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT
WHAT YOUR INTENT IS WITHOUT AND-
IT'S CLEAR YOU SPENT A LOT OF
TIME TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE AND
SO I JUST WANNA. GIVE YOU A
CHANCE TO HELP THOSE OF US WHO
MAYBE AREN'T AS FAMILIAR WITH
THAT PROCESS WHAT THAT WOULD
LOOK LIKE FROM A CONSUMER'S
PERSPECTIVE ABSOLUTELY IS A
MEMBER WELL RIGHT NOW IF YOU
WERE TO DO A GOOGLE SEARCH
YOU'RE LOOKING FOR MENTAL
THERAPIST YOU'RE GOING TO TYPE
IN MAYBE. I KNOW MENTAL
THERAPIST NEAR ME FUNDAMENTAL
THERAPISTS IN SACRAMENTO. THE
WEBSITE THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO
ADDRESS WON'T WON'T EVEN COME UP
WILL BE YOUR FIRST SECOND OR
THIRD GOOGLE SEARCH. BECAUSE
YOU'RE SEARCHING FOR MENTAL
THERAPIST THAT WORKS FOR X. Y.
Z. COMPANY. THE BREEZE SYSTEM AS
YOU HEARD FROM ONE OF MY SYSTEM-
WITNESSES IS UTILIZED TO TRACK.
THEIR LICENSE IF YOU'RE SEEKING
EMPLOYMENT. IS UTILIZED TO CHECK
ENFORCEMENT SAY YOU DID YOUR
GOOGLE SEARCH AND FOUND A MENTAL
THERAPISTS ARE LIKE THIS IS THE
ONE I WANT. BECAUSE EACH AND
EVERYONE OF THEM HAVE A BOTTLE
THE BREEZES FROM DOES NOT HAVE A
BIO OF EACH MENTAL HEALTH
THERAPIST. SO YOU FIND THAT
INDIVIDUAL YOU'RE LIKE THIS IS
THE ONE I WANT. AND FOR A REASON
I MEAN I'VE NEVER DONE THIS BUT
YOU BE LIKE YOU MIGHT SAY. I
WANT TO SEE WHERE THEY LIVE
WHERE THEY SIT WHERE THEY WORK-
AND- IF THEY HAVE A SPLIT
REACTION SO THEN YOU WOULD HAVE
TO GOOGLE BREEZE SYSTEM
CALIFORNIA. BREEZE THAT CA DOT
GOV. THEN TYPE IN THE LICENSE
NUMBER OR TYPE IN THE NAME TO
FIND THE DISCIPLINARY ACTION. ON
THAT SYSTEM THE ONLY THING YOU
WOULD SEE. IS LICENSE NAME.
ADDRESS LICENSE NUMBER. THEIR
TYPES SO IF YOUR MANAGER IS OR
SOCIAL WORKER. THEIR STATUS. IS
ACTIVE FIFTY AT DEACTIVATED-
EXPIRE. AND THEN THE EXPIRATION.
ONLY THAT IS THE ONLY THING YOU
SEE ON THERE. NOW IN THE- IF I
END OF. HAS DISCIPLINARY OUT IT
WOULD SAY IMPORTS ACTION TAKEN
RIGHT THERE. I'M CURRENTLY RIGHT
NOW IF YOU'RE TRYING. INDIVIDUAL
YOU HAVE TO NAMES ON THERE SO
WE'RE LOOKING TO REMOVE THE DEAD
NAME IN JUST HAVE THEIR LEGAL
NAME- SO IF AN INDIVIDUAL SEIZES
UP I'M A CONSUMER AND I SEE.
JOHN SMITH HAS DISCIPLINARY
ACTION. IT WOULD THEN SHOW THEIR
AND THEN IT WOULD PROMPT ME TO
CALL. TO GET MORE INFORMATION ON
WHAT SPECIFICALLY THAT IS. OKAY
AND FROM- THAT. INVEST THE SO
WHAT THE SYSTEM WOULD DO IS THEY
WOULD. IDENTIFY IF THERE WAS
DISCIPLINARY ACTION PRIOR. TO-
WHAT YOU'D BE YOUR BILL WOULD DO
WHICH IS OR OR- WHAT. THE PRE
SYSTEM ALREADY HAS DISCIPLINARY
ACTION HISTORY- IT COVERS THAT
THERE ABSOLUTELY- BUT WHAT IT
DOES IT IT IT TIES THE- TIES IT
TOO IF THERE IS A NAME CHANGE
THE PRIOR NAME. YET BECAUSE IT
TIES IT TO THE LICENSE NUMBER
AND THE LICENSE NUMBER NEXT YEAR
EXPLAINED THAT OUR LEADERS.
PRESENTED THINK MUCH FOR SECOND
. RIGHT THROUGH THE MOTION IS
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM
COLLEAGUES. IN NINE CENTER WOULD
YOU LIKE TO CLOSE I REALLY
APPRECIATE THE ENGAGEMENT AND
YOU KNOW REACHING OUT TO ME
BEFORE AND LIKE I MENTIONED THE
INTENT IS TO YOU KNOW. BALANCE
CONSUMER PROTECTION AND ALSO THE
SAFETY OF THE MENTAL THERAPISTS
AND- AND- INDIVIDUAL SO WITH I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN IPHONE.
THANK YOU THANK YOU SENATOR FOR
YOUR WORK TO BALANCE THE
MUTUALLY IMPORTANT INTERESTS OF
PROTECTING CONSUMERS AND
AFFIRMING THE IDENTITIES. OF ALL
CALIFORNIANS AND I MISSED THE
WHOLE CONVERSATION BUT I
UNDERSTAND IT WAS A GOOD WIN
AGAINST HER AND I DON'T KNOW. I
APPRECIATE THE OFFER. I WATCH
THE TAPE. BUT APPRECIATE YOU
KNOW YOU'RE YOU'RE STATING THAT
THE BILL YOU KNOW THAT IS YOUR
INTENTION OF THE BILL BE
IMPLEMENTED IN A WAY THAT
ENSURES THE PUBLIC IS CLEARLY
AWARE WHEN A LICENSEE HAS A
HISTORY OF DISCIPLINE- AND I
APPRECIATE YOUR COMMITMENT TO
ENSURING THAT'S THE CASE. AND
WITH THAT I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT
THE VOTE TODAY- I'M SECRETARY
PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. SB THREE
SEVENTY TWO MENJIVAR THE MOTION
IS DUE PASSED TO THE COMMITTEE
ON JUDICIARY. BERMAN HI BERMAN
HI FLORA. FLORA NONVOTING
ALANIZ. ALVAREZ ALVAREZ I PAINS.
PAINS I BONTA AYE BONTA AYE CHAN
. CHEN NOT VOTING DIXON. GIPSON
GRAYSON. GRAYSON I IRWIN IRWIN I
JACKSON. JACKSON I LI. LI I
LOWENTHAL. LOWENTHAL I'M MCCARTY
. MCCARTY I AM A KENNER. MCKENNA
I WENT. WHEN I PATTERSON. THANK
THANKS BYE. THAT BILL IS OUT
WITH THIRTEEN VOTES THANK YOU
VERY MUCH CONGRATULATIONS CENTER
AND I BELIEVE YOU HAVE A SECOND
BILL. I REMEMBER BUDGET ITEM
NUMBER FOUR AB THREE SEVENTY
THREE WITH THE BILL. YOU GOT A
BIPARTISAN VERY BIPARTISAN
MOTION AND SECOND. PERFECT.
THAT'S WHEN I GO. TO MY FAVORITE
PRESENTATION. ANY KEY WITNESSES
IN I SET UP THE MEN I AM I
TALKING POINTS IN. IF IT. WERE
SO LOOKS LIKE YOU GUYS SOME I
WITNESSED. PLEASE GO AHEAD. GOOD
AFTERNOON CHAIR AND MEMBERS
AGAIN MY NAME IS JOHN TREBINJE
OR SENIOR ADVOCATE WAS C. B. H.
SAY THE CALIFORNIA COUNCIL
COMMITTEE BEHAVIOR HEALTH
AGENCIES HERE TODAY TO REQUEST
YOUR SUPPORT FOR SB THREE SEVEN
THREE. OUR MEMBERS EXPERIENCE
FIRST HAND THE CHALLENGES
ASSOCIATED WITH THEIR ADDRESS
BEING PUBLICLY AVAILABLE FOR
EXAMPLE PSYCHOTHERAPISTS OFTEN
WORK WITH COMPLEX POPULATIONS
INCLUDING SOME THAT MAY LEAVE
THEM VULNERABLE TO STALKING AND
HARASSMENT. CURRENTLY THE ONLY
OPTION FOR LICENSEES TO AVOID
SHARING THEIR PERSONAL ADDRESSES
TO PAY FOR AND MAINTAIN A PO BOX
SB THREE SEVEN THREE ALSO OFFERS
A SIMPLE SOLUTION TO ADDRESS
THIS ISSUE WHILE STILL ALLOWING
CONSUMERS TO IDENTIFY A PRIVATE
PROVIDER ON THE BREEZE SYSTEM AS
SENATOR MEN HAVE I MENTIONED. TO
VERIFY THEIR LICENSE STATUS AND
FILE A COMPLAINT IF NECESSARY IN
VIEW THEIR DISCIPLINARY RECORD
IMPORTANTLY THIS IDEA IS NOT
NOVEL SEVERAL BOARDS UNDER DCA
ALREADY OPERATE THIS WAY AND SB
THREE SEVEN THREE HELPS BRING
THE SAME PROTECTIONS TO MENTAL
HEALTH PROVIDERS THANK YOU FOR
YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION OF
THIS MEASURE. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. I THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME
MY NAME IS ANNA PACKING ALLEY
I'M A LICENSED PSYCHOTHERAPIST
IN SANTA CRUZ COUNTY I'VE BEEN
WORKING FOR ABOUT TWENTY THREE
YEARS IN THE MENTAL HEALTH
FIELD. ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS
THAT WE DEAL WITH IS SAFETY IS
CHILD SAFETY ADULT SAFETY
EVERYBODY'S SAFETY AND SOMETIMES
WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO DO OUR
JOBS. WE PUT OUR OWN SELVES AT
RISK. WE'RE TOTALLY WILLING TO
PUT OURSELVES AT RISK FOR A JOB
BUT WHAT WE DON'T WANT IS TO
HAVE THE ADDITIONAL RISK TO OUR
OWN FAMILIES. TO OUR OWN SAFETY
WHEN WE GO HOME. THIS BILL HELPS
MAKE THAT A LITTLE BIT SAFER
FOREST. EVERY THERAPIST WHO'S
BEEN WORKING HAS SOME STORY OR
ANOTHER ABOUT YOU'D BE IN STOCK
THEMSELVES OR HAVING A COLLEAGUE
WHO HAS BEEN. IT'S SCARY.
SOMETIMES YOU GET SOMEBODY IN
YOUR OFFICE OR YOU GET SOMEBODY
YOU WORK WITH SOMEBODY IN THE
PAST. AND YOU FIND THEM AT YOUR
HOME YOU FIND THEM. PLACES YOU
DON'T WANT TO SEE THEM. WE WANT
TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO DO OUR
JOB SAFELY WHEN THE PANDEMIC HIT
AND SO MANY THERAPISTS STARTED
TO WORK FROM HOME. IT OPENED UP
A LOT OF MORE POSSIBILITIES. FOR
BEING ABLE TO SERVE CLIENTS ALL
OVER THE STATE. I AM TO HAVE LOW
SERVICE. CETERA BUT WHEN WE HAVE
THEIR ADDRESSES. ON RECORD IT
JUST OPENS UP TOO MUCH EXPOSURE
FOR PEOPLE. PO BOXES ARE A NICE
IDEA BUT A LOT OF TIMES THEY'RE
NOT AVAILABLE AND THEY'RE SUPER
EXPENSIVE IN DIFFERENT AREAS. SO
OF. I'VE BEEN THERE I DON'T
LIKE. TAKING ADDITIONAL RISKS
BEYOND WHAT I NEED TO TAKE FOR
WORK. SO I REALLY ENCOURAGE YOU
TO SUPPORT. SB THREE SEVENTY
THREE THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH- DO WE HAVE ANY PRIMER
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION TO THE
BILL. SEEING NINE ANYBODY WANT
TO ADD ON A AS A ME TOO
SUPPORTER. OR AFP WELL LET'S SEE
SUPPORTERS FIRST AND THEN WE'LL
DO OPPONENTS. SUPPORTERS WANT TO
ADD ON PLEASE READ YOUR NAME.
ORGANIZATION YOU'RE WITH OF ANY
IMPOSITION OF THE BILL- MY
NAME'S KATHLEEN HIS CENTER I AM
A LICENSED MARRIAGE FAMILY
THERAPIST AND SUPPORTS. THANK
YOU. THE MORNING ASSEMBLY DOCTOR
TRISTEN LOSING ANY LICENSED
CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGIST STRONG
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING
JENNIFER HOLLYWOOD CALIFORNIA
PSYCHOLOGICAL ASSOCIATION ONE OF
THE CO SPONSORS AND SUPPORT
THANK YOU. REBECA GONZALEZ
NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF SOCIAL
WORKERS CALIFORNIA CHAPTER CO
SPONSOR SUPPORT THANK YOU.
MORNING JAMES MICHAEL POWELL
WITH ASKED ME CALIFORNIA IN
SUPPORT THANK YOU. SO MY AND HER
WITH THE CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION
OF MARRIAGE AND FAMILY THERAPIST
ALSO ONE OF THE CO SPONSORS OF
THE BILL THANK YOU THANK YOU. DR
CORINNE MCINTOSH SOPKO LICENSE
MYCOLOGIST LICENSE MARRIAGE AND
FAMILY THERAPIST ON BEHALF OF
THE SACRAMENTO VALLEY
PSYCHOLOGICAL ASSOCIATION WE
STRONGLY SUPPORT THANK YOU THANK
YOU. GOOD MORNING CRISTINA TO
CAR REPRESENTING THE CALIFORNIA
VETERINARY MEDICAL ASSOCIATION
WITH THE SUPPORT IF AMENDED
POSITION. IN THE HOPES THAT WE
CAN ADD THE VETERINARY MEDICAL
BOARD TO THE BILL AS IT
CONTINUES TO MOVE ON WE WANT TO
THANK THE SENATOR AND HER STAFF
FOR WORKING WITH US. THIS
COMMITTEE FOR WORKING WITH US
AND OF COURSE THE VETERINARY
MEDICAL BOARD AS WELL THANK YOU
SO MUCH THANK YOU. FIFTY FOR MEN
FROM ABOUT A MEDICAL BOARD WE
HAVE A SUPPORT IF IMMINENT
POSITION WE APPRECIATE THE
COMMITTEE ANALYSIS
RECOMMENDATION TO ADD THE BETTER
MEDICAL BOARD TO THE BILL THANK
YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH- AND
SENATOR I APPRECIATE YOUR YOUR
VERY BRIEF PRESENTATION BY
FORGOT TO SAY THAT YES I WILL BE
ACCEPTING THE AMENDMENTS
BEAUTIFUL THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANY OF WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION
TO THE BILL ANYBODY WANNA ADD ON
AS- IN OPPOSITION TO THE BILL
SAYING NINE AND BRING BACK TO
IT- COLLEAGUE. GOT GOING TO SET
ANY OR COMMENTS. YES PLEASE. I
THINK YOU MIGHT. YOU MUST THINK
WHAT I THINK YOU FOR THIS BILL-
IN YOU KNOW THINK ALL THE HARD
WORK FOR ALL OF OUR
PSYCHOLOGISTS THAT ARE OUT THERE
AS A MENTAL HEALTH PROVIDER THIS
IS A REALLY. REALLY SCARY
SUBJECT TO- THAT I'VE BEEN
ASSAULTED I'VE BEEN STOCK
MYSELF- THE CONCERN ALSO IS
THERE ISN'T THERE NEEDS TO BE
MORE DONE. BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK
UP YOUR NAME YOU CAN FIND YOUR
HOME ADDRESS- THAT'S HAPPENED TO
ME SEVERAL TIMES AS WELL BECAUSE
WE- YOU KNOW HAD MY HOME ADDRESS
AND- THE SELF. IS ALL FOUND ME
SO- THERE'S STILL MORE WORK TO
BE DONE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
PROTECT ALL OF OUR MENTAL HEALTH
PROVIDERS OUT THERE. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU- DOCTOR BANDS. ANY
ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS. CENTER WOULD YOU LIKE
TO CLOSE THANK YOU SO MUCH-
COMMITTEE MEMBERS TO GOT TO RISE
FAMILY MEMBER I'M MY WIFE IS A
LICENSED MARRIAGE FAMILY
THERAPIST SHE'S HAD STALKERS
BEFORE- IN OUR ADDRESS IS
PUBLIC. SO THIS IS SOMETHING
THAT'S NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART
AND YOU MORE THAN OPEN THEM WE
CAN WORK ON SOMETHING NEXT YEAR
TO. FURTHER MAKE THIS A STRONGER
PROTECTION SO WITH THAT
RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU FOR YOUR
IPHONE. THANK YOU US SENATOR
AND- COULDN'T SUPPORT THE BILL
MORE AYE AYE A COUPLE YEARS AGO
I. SOMEBODY WAS TRYING TO
PRESSURE ME TO VOTE A CERTAIN
WAY. LASSEN MY HOME ADDRESS- TO
THEIR DISTRIBUTION LIST AND
WHERE WHERE MY WIFE STAYS WHEN
I'M GONE. A LOT AND- NEEDLESS TO
SAY I DIDN'T APPRECIATE THAT-
BUT THE DOCTOR BEING THIS POINT
ARE UNFORTUNATE OUR INFORMATION
IS. IT'S FAR TOO EASY TO FIND-
SO REALLY APPRECIATE- THIS THIS
STEP TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT
HARDER- AND WE'LL KEEP ON
LOOKING OUT FOR MORE WAYS TO
PROTECT OUR MENTAL HEALTH
PROFESSIONALS ARE HEALTH
PROFESSIONALS AND OTHERS. THANKS
AND I'M HAPPY TO RECOMMEND AN
AYE VOTE ON THE BILL THINGS TO
CHECK MADAM SECRETARY PLEASE
CALL THE VOTE. SB THREE SEVENTY
THREE MENJIVAR THE MOTION IS TO
PASS THAT AS AMENDED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS.
BERMAN HI BERMAN I FLORA. FLORA
I ELENI'S. ALVAREZ HOWEVER AS I
PAINS. PAINS I BONTA AYE BONTA
AYE CHAN. CHAN ISAACSON. GIPSON
GIPSON I GRAYSON. GRAYSON I
IRWIN. IRWIN I JACKSON. JACKSON
I'D LI. LEE ISLAND DAHLE.
LOWENTHAL AYE MCCARTY. MCCARTY I
AM A KENNER. I CAN- I WENT. WHEN
I PATTERSON. THANK THANK BY.
THANK YOU THE BILL IS OUT THANK
YOU CENTER. NOW WE'RE LOOKING
FOR MORE SENATORS OR DO WE HAVE
A- WE'VE GOT IT WE'VE GOT
ASSEMBLY MEMBER- AGENDA ITEM
NUMBER ONE ACR EIGHTY SIX.
ASSEMBLY MEMBER KALRA IT'S GOOD
TO SEE MY FRIEND. THANK YOU MR
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS. ACR EIGHTY SIX
WOULD ENCOURAGE STATE LOCAL
NONPROFIT AND PRIVATE PARTNERS
TO WORK TOGETHER TO IMPLEMENT
SOLUTIONS THAT ADDRESS THE
STATE'S ANIMAL SHELTER
OVERPOPULATION PROBLEM.
CALIFORNIA'S ANIMAL SHELTERS ARE
OVERCROWDED AND OVERWHELMED MANY
SHELTERS ARE SO FULL THEY'RE
FORCED TO RESORT TO EXTREME
MEASURES LIKE TURNING AWAY STRAY
ANIMALS AND EUTHANIZING HEALTHY
ONES FOR SPACE. FORTUNATELY
SPEND SURGERIES ARE INEFFECTIVE
OF LIMITING THE UNCHECKED
POPULATION HOWEVER SUBSIDIZED
SPAY NEUTER SURGERIES ARE
EXPENSIVE COSTING HUNDREDS OF
DOLLARS PER CHANNEL. LIKEWISE
THE SUPPLY OF LOW AND NO COST
SERVICES CANNOT MEET DEMAND
LEADING A MONTH LONG WAIT LIST
FOR MANY PROCEDURES. THIS ISSUE
IS FURTHER EXACERBATED BY
AQUATIC VETERINARIAN SHORTAGE
THAT LEAVES CRITICAL SPAN INTO
PERSONALITIES WITHOUT PROPER
STOPPING. ACR EIGHTY SIX
RECOGNIZE AND ADDRESSES THE MANY
COMPOUNDING CAUSES OF ANIMAL
SHELTER OVERPOPULATION CRISIS
FIRST AND URGES THE VETERINARY
MEDICAL BOARD TO ENCOURAGE OUT
OF STATE VETERINARY STAFF
REGISTERED TO PRACTICE IN
CALIFORNIA. SECOND IT ENCOURAGES
STATE LOCAL NONPROFIT AND
PRIVATE PARTNERS DEVELOP AND
FIND HIGH VOLUME SPAY AND NEUTER
SERVICES ACROSS THE STATE.
FINALLY ALLOWS THE STATE TO
ENCOURAGE CALIFORNIA'S TO ADOPT
ANIMALS FROM SHELTERS INSTEAD OF
BUYING THEM FROM BREEDERS. BY
ENCOURAGING THESE STEPS AS YOU
ARE EIGHTY SIX AIMS TO ALLEVIATE
THE PRESSURE FELT BY OUR ANIMAL
SHELTERS AND ENSURE THAT THEY'RE
ABLE TO GIVE VULNERABLE ANIMALS
THE CARE THEY NEED. WOULD BE
PROVIDE SUPPORTING TESTIMONY
ARGUMENT- SO FOUNDER CEO AND
PRESIDENT OF SOCIAL COMPASSION
IN LEGISLATION AND CAN ALL TEAMS
CEO OF SACRAMENTO SPCA. RIGHT GO
AHEAD GOOD MORNING EVERYONE JUDY
MAN COUP SO SOCIAL COMPASSION IN
LEGISLATION WHEN I FOUND IT MY
GROUP IN TWO THOUSAND AND SEVEN
OUR GOAL WAS TO CREATE
LEGISLATION AND PROGRAMS THAT
WOULD ALLEVIATE THE PET
OVERPOPULATION CRISIS WE HAD AT
THAT TIME. SINCE THEN WE HAVE
SPONSORED OVER SIXTY BILLS AND
I'VE SEEN TWENTY THREE OF THEM
SIGNED INTO LAW WE ALSO GOT OUR
PET LOVERS LICENSE PLATE ON THE
ROAD WHICH NOW HAS BROUGHT IN
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO SPAY AND
NEUTER. HISTORICALLY OUR
SHELTERS WERE TAKING IN RIGHT AT
ONE MILLION DOGS AND CATS WITH
OVER HALF BEING EUTHANIZED AT AN
ANNUAL COST TO TAXPAYERS EVERY
YEAR OF A QUARTER OF A BILLION
DOLLARS. WE HAVE MADE GREAT
STRIDES WITH OUR LEGISLATIVE
EFFORTS HOWEVER COLD IT SET US
BACK. SEVERAL YEARS AND ITS
EFFECTS IN. WE HAVE GOT TO GREAT
ALL TO. THE KERN STATE OF
AFFAIRS IN ACR EIGHTY SIX AND
RESOLUTIONS AS WE KNOW CAN BE
SYMBOLIC BUT THAT IS NOT OUR
GOAL WE NEED ACTION. WITH YOUR
HELP WE CAN RESET THE NARRATIVE
WE MUST ENCOURAGE OUT OF STATE
VETERINARIANS TO PRACTICING
CALIFORNIA EVEN IF ONLY
TEMPORARILY WE MUST CREATE MORE
FUNDING FOR LOW COST HIGH VOLUME
SPAY AND NEUTER PROGRAMS. WE
MUST URGE CALIFORNIANS TO ADOPT
FROM A SHELTER OR RESCUE GROUP
INSTEAD OF BUYING FROM A
BREEDER. AND WE MUST GIVE ANIMAL
CONTROL SERVICES THE RESOURCES
THEY NEED TO MORE ROBUSTLY
ENFORCE BREEDING AS WELL AS SPAY
AND NEUTER LAWS. LET'S AMPLIFY
THESE MESSAGES TO EACH OF YOUR
DISTRICTS ALL OF WHICH SHARE THE
BURDEN OF THIS ISSUE. THOUSANDS
OF WONDERFUL DOGS CATS AND
RABBITS ARE B. AND DUMPED OVER
BREAD AND LOSING THEIR LIVES IN
OUR STATE THIS IS A HUMANE
CRISIS FOR THE ANIMALS AND FOR
THOSE ATTENDING TO THEIR CARE.
IS ALSO A FINANCIAL BURDEN ON
ALL OF US PLEASE TAKE THIS
RESOLUTION TO HEART AND NOT ONLY
VOTE YES BUT ALSO JOINED AS A CO
AUTHOR. THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU
MS MECHANISM. GOOD MORNING I'M
KENNEL TEEN ON THE C. E. O. THE
SACRAMENTO SPCA WHICH IS THE
LARGEST PROVIDER OF LOW COST
VETERINARY KERR IN NORTHERN
CALIFORNIA. A TWENTY TWENTY ONE
SURVEY SHOWS THAT FOURTEEN
CALIFORNIA COUNTIES RANK IN THE
BOTTOM 25% NATIONALLY ON THE
VETERINARY CARE ASSESS ABILITY
SCORE. WHICH MEANS THERE IS
EXTREMELY LIMITED OR NO ABILITY
TO SEE A VETERINARIAN. THE
OVERALL SCORE FOR CALIFORNIA WAS
FORTY SEVEN OUT OF A HUNDRED THE
CENTRAL VALLEY AND NORTH STATE
FEARING THE WORST. NEVADA HAS A
SCORE OF FIFTY FIVE NEBRASKA HAS
A SCORE OF SEVENTY ONE WERE
STUCK AT FORTY SEVEN. AND EVEN
IF CALIFORNIANS FIND OF THAT IN
THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD COUNTY OUR
REGION MANY CANNOT AFFORD THE
COST OF TREATMENT. THE RESULTS
ARE PREDICTABLE AND
HEARTBREAKING. WITHOUT ACCESS TO
OF THAT CALIFORNIANS WHOSE PETS
ARE SICK OR SUFFERING HAVE FEW
CHOICES. GIVE THE ANIMAL TO ONE
OF THE FEW SHELTER STILL
ACCEPTING OWNER SURRENDERS.
AVERAGE HUMANELY EUTHANIZED IF
THEY CAN AFFORD IT. OR ALLOW IT
TO SUFFER MANY ARE FINDING
ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE TURN IT INTO
A PUBLIC FACILITY AS A STRAY.
OUR PUBLIC SHELTERS ARE FILLED
WITH TWO DISTINCT POPULATIONS
THE OLDER SICKER ANIMALS PEOPLE
CAN NO LONGER PROVIDE CARE FOR.
AND LEADERS UPON LITTERS OF
KITTENS AND PUPPIES THE RESULT
OF PANDEMIC CLOSURES OF LOW COST
SPAY NEUTER CLINICS THAT HAVE
NOT BEEN ABLE TO RE OPEN AT FULL
CAPACITY. BECAUSE OF A SHORTAGE
OF VETERINARIANS. OUR STATE
EUTHANASIA RATE IS CLIMBING
AFTER YEARS OF DECLINE. PUBLIC
FACILITIES ARE FORCED TO
EUTHANIZE ANIMALS TO MAKE SPACE
FOR MORE. AND CATS AND DOGS WITH
TREATABLE MEDICAL CONDITIONS IN
UP AT THE FRONT OF THAT LINE.
BECAUSE PUBLIC SHELTERS CANNOT
ATTRACT OR KEEP VETERINARIANS IN
A TIGHT LABOR MARKET. WE CAN
SPEND RESOURCES ON EXPANDING
FACILITIES AND HIRING MORE
PEOPLE TO DEAL WITH THE GROWING
SHELTER POPULATION AND
EUTHANASIA. OR WE CAN INVEST IN
SOLUTIONS BUILDING AND STAFFING
REGIONAL SPAY NEUTER CENTERS.
PROVIDING INCENTIVES FOR
CALIFORNIA VET SCHOOL GRADUATES
TO STAY. AND ATTRACTING VETS
FROM OTHER STATES ESPECIALLY
THOSE TRAINED AND HIGH QUALITY
HIGH VOLUME SPAY NEUTER
SURGERIES. RAISING AWARENESS IS
THE FIRST STEP BUT WE NEED TO
QUICKLY FOLLOW WORDS WITH
ACTIONS THANK YOU. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. ANY PRIMER WITNESSES
IN OPPOSITION TO THE BILL.
SEEING NONE. I WANT TO OPEN IT
UP FOR ANY- FOLKS WANT TO ADD ON
IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL. WANNA
ADD YOUR NAME ORGANIZATION OR
WITH ANY POSITION ON THE BILL.
THING NINE ANYBODY WANTS ADAM IN
OPPOSITION TO THE BILL. SOURCING
THEN. BRING IT BACK TO
COLLEAGUES FOR MORE. GOT A
MOTION GOT A SECOND- COMMENTS
QUESTIONS. SEEING NONE. ASSEMBLY
MEMBER WOULD YOU LIKE TO A
CLOSE. STAFF YESTERDAY. THAT MY
FAVORITE CLOTHES THANK YOU TO
THE AUTHOR AND SUPPORTERS OF
THIS BILL- TO MAKE CLEAR IN THIS
COMMITTEE THAT WE NEED ACTION AT
THE STATE LEVEL TO ADDRESS PET
OVERPOPULATION IN THE BEST WAY
TO ACHIEVE THIS. IS ALL THE
STAKEHOLDERS WORKING TOGETHER.
I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT THIS
RESOLUTION TODAY THINK SO MUCH
AND I'M SURE THEY'LL BE AN
OPPORTUNITY TO ADD ON AS AS CO
AUTHORS ON THE FLOOR. OF THE
ASSEMBLY AND- MEDITATOR PLEASE
CALL THE VOTE. THE MOTION TO BE
ADOPTED AND RE REFER TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
BERMAN HI BERMAN I LARA. LAURA I
ALANIZ. ALVAREZ ALVAREZ I PAINS.
PAINS I BONTA. AYE BONTA AYE
CHAN. CHAN ISAACSON. GIPSON
GIPSON I GRAYSON. GRAYSON AYE
IRWIN. WHEN I JACKSON. JACKSON I
LI. LI I LOWENTHAL. LOWENTHAL I
MCCARTY. MCCARTY I AM A KENNER.
KENNER I WENT. WHEN I PATTERSON.
THANK THANK I. THAT RESOLUTION
IS OUT. RESOLUTIONS THANK YOU
SENATOR LAYER FOR YOUR PATIENCE
. YOU'VE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX
SB. FIVE OH EIGHT. YOU HAVE A
MOTION BY THE VICE CHAIR. YOU
HAVE A SECOND IF YOU HAVE A BI
PARTISAN MODE- MOTION SECOND.
SENATOR ARE APPRECIATE THE HINT
MISTER CHECK IT OUT I THOUGHT IT
WAS SUBTLE THE END SO LET ME
JUST SAY THE THIS BILL WOULD
STREAMLINE THE REVIEW PROCESS OF
RELATED TO CANNABIS WAS SEEK
WORK TO SEE WAS ARE REQUIRED ON
THE SAME PROJECT THIS WOULD
REDUCE IT TO ONE. OF THEM I GOT
A SIMILAR BILL OUT OF COMMITTEE
LAST YEAR WE COULDN'T GET IT
DONE THERE'S A LOT OF LIGHT
SUPPORT THAT WASN'T INCLUDED IN
THE ANALYSIS AND ALL JUST
TECHNOLOGY. I DO HAVE- SELLING
ACETO HERE A SERRA NECESITO HERE
IN SUPPORT OF FROM THE ORIGINS
COUNCIL AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME
I WOULD RESPECTFULLY US FOR AN
IPHONE THANK YOU SENATOR AND
PLEASE GO AHEAD AND- WITH
PRIMARY WITNESS TESTIMONY IN
SUPPORT. GOOD MORNING MR MEMBERS
I WILL BE BRIEF AND SERNA SETO
TESTIFYING IN SUPPORT OF SB FIVE
OH EIGHT ON BEHALF OF ORIGINS
COUNCIL WHICH REPRESENTS OVER
EIGHT HUNDRED LICENSE SMALL AND
INDEPENDENT CANNABIS BUSINESSES
AND ROLL PRODUCING COUNTIES
THROUGHOUT CALIFORNIA. OREGON
COUNCIL HAS BEEN ENGAGED WITH
THE LEGISLATURE ON SEQUEL
RELATED CANNABIS POLICY ISSUE
SINCE OUR FOUNDING IN TWENTY
NINETEEN. SINCE THAT TIME
PROVISIONALLY LICENSED CANNABIS
OPERATORS STATEWIDE HAVE BEEN
FACING ONGOING LICENSING IN
SECURITY AND CYCLICAL INDUSTRY
THREATENING CRISES. THIS IS ALL
DUE TO THE STATE MANDATE FOR
SITE SPECIFIC SEQUEL REVIEW OF
EVERY SINGLE COMMERCIAL CANNABIS
LICENSING PROJECT IN CALIFORNIA.
THIS IS AN ABNORMAL APPLICATION
OF SYKORA. FUNDAMENTAL TOOLS FOR
REGULATORY EFFICIENCY AUTHORIZED
UNDERSEA QUOTE FOR EVERY OTHER
INDUSTRY ARE DENIED TO CANNABIS
LICENSING APPLICANTS AND THE
LOCAL AND STATE AGENCIES THAT
RENDON REGULATE THEM.
MINISTERIAL LICENSING IS OFF THE
TABLE LOCAL GENERAL PLANS AND
EXISTING ZONING CODE FOR
COMMERCIAL AGRICULTURAL ACTIVITY
IS ALSO OFF THE TABLE. THIS
DISRUPTION TO THE NORMAL SEEK
WELL LIKE THAT. PROCESS FLOW FOR
COMMERCIAL CANNABIS ACTIVITY HAS
A SYSTEM WIDE A NEGATIVE IMPACT
ON LICENSING. A SIGNIFICANT
PORTION OF OUR MEMBERSHIP IS
EXPERIENCING TIME LINES OF MANY
MONTHS FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF
CANNABIS CONTROL TO REVIEW
LOCALLY CERTIFIED SECRET
DOCUMENTATION AND ISSUE ANNUAL
LICENSURE. AS OF THIS MORNING AT
THE STATE LICENSING DATA
REFLECTS THAT HALF OF THE
PROVISIONALLY LICENSED CANNABIS
BUSINESSES IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA STILL HAVE NOT
ACHIEVED ANNUAL LICENSURE. THE
STATE ENVIRONMENTAL AGENCIES WHO
CURRENTLY SERVE AS CEO
RESPONSIBLE AGENCIES FOR
CANNABIS CULTIVATION LICENSING
PROJECTS TO AND WHO WOULD
CONTINUE TO DO SO UNDER THIS
BILL. HOW BOTH THE CAPACITY AND
THE EXPERTISE TO DO IT WELL. SB
FIVE OH EIGHT PRODUCES- PROPOSES
AN URGENCY URGENTLY NEEDED
EFFICIENCY TO THE STATE
LICENSING PROCESS PROCESS
WITHOUT IN UNDERMINING
ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW AND
PROTECTIONS. WHEN I THINK
SENATOR LAYERED FOR BRINGING
THIS ISSUE FORWARD AND
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR I.
BOATS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH- ANY.
PRIMARY WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION
TO THE BILL COME ON THE APPEAL
OF TWO MINUTES EACH. ARE EITHER
THERE OR THE DESK WHICHEVER YOU
PREFER. GOOD MORNING MY NAME IS
KIM DELFINO AND I'M REPRESENTING
A DEFENDERS OF WILDLIFE AND THE
CALIFORNIA NATIVE PLANT SOCIETY-
THESE ORGANIZATIONS ALONG WITH
OTHER CONSERVATION ORGANIZATIONS
WHO SUPPORTED SB SIXTY FOUR
RESPECTFULLY OPPOSE OF THIS
BILL. AND AT THE OUTSET I WOULD
LIKE TO THANK SENATOR LAYERED
FOR HIS MANY YEARS OF LEADERSHIP
IN ENVIRONMENT AND ORGANIZATIONS
DO NOT OPPOSE THIS A BILL LATELY
LET ME JUST SAY THAT BUT WE DO
HAVE A FUNDAMENTAL DISAGREEMENT.
ABOUT THE APPLICATION OF C. KHOA
IN THE CIRCUMSTANCE IN THIS
CASE- THE DEPARTMENT CANNABIS
CONTROL IS AN IS ACTING AS A
RESPONSIBLE AGENCY WHICH IS NOT
AN UNUSUAL THING. THERE IS A
CATEGORY CALLED RESPONSIBLE
AGENCIES IT IS NOT DUPLICATIVE
REVIEW THERE'S A PURPOSE FOR WHY
THOSE AGENCIES DO HAVE OVERSIGHT
OVER A LEAD AGENCY. THERE ARE
FOUR REASONS WHY WE OPPOSE SB
FIVE OH EIGHT AS DRAFTED AND I
WOULD JUST NOTE I'M THE ONLY
PRIMARY. WITNESS SO IF I GO A
LITTLE OVER HOPE IT'S OKAY LOOK
I LITTLE OVER I'M A LITTLE
REALLY FAST SO SB FIVE AWAIT
VIOLATES THIS NEGOTIATE. IN TWO
THOUSAND AND ONE IN WHICH IN THE
CANNABIS TRAILER BILL COMPROMISE
IN WHICH ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS
AGREED TO EXTEND THE LIFE. OF
SEQUEL EXEMPTIONS FOR
PROVISIONAL LICENSES- WITHIN
AGREEMENT THERE WOULD- THAT-
THAT CAN OF IT DEPARTMENT CAMPUS
CONTROL WOULD DO THE REVIEW OF
ENSURE THAT ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES
ARE ADDRESSED. TO CANNABIS
BUSINESSES ESPECIALLY
CULTIVATION DO CAUSE SIGNIFICANT
ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT THE REASON
PART THE REASON WHY PROP SIXTY
FOUR INCLUDED ENVIRONMENTAL
PROTECTIONS IS BECAUSE OF THE
AMOUNT OF DAMAGE. FROM ILLEGAL
AND EVEN LEGAL GROWS CAN HAVE-
IMPACTS TO WATER QUALITY AIR AND
WILDLIFE AND SO THERE IS A POINT
AS TO WHY- WE WANT THE OVERSIGHT
WITH DEPARTMENT CANNABIS
CONTROL. ALSO NGUYEN NUMBER
THREE WHEN VOTERS APPROVED PROP
SIXTY FOUR THEY WERE TOLD THAT
THE CANNABIS BUSINESSES MUST
FOLLOW STRICT ENVIRONMENTAL
SAFEGUARDS TO PROTECT THE
ENVIRONMENT INCLUDING
APPLICATION OF SYKORA. THIS BILL
MAKES THE DEPARTMENT SECRET VIEW
AS A RESPONSE AGE. OPTIONAL ON.
I'M AND FINALLY IT'S BAD PRESS.
THAT SEQUEL REQUIREMENTS FOR
RESPONSIBLE AGENCIES CAN BE
OPTIONAL AND NOT REQUIRED- AND
SO THIS IS BEEN. RESPONSIBLE
AGENCY RESPONSE HAS BEEN ON THE
BOOKS FOR FIFTY YEARS IT'S USED
IN MANY OTHER INSTANCES AND
AGAIN WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT THIS
IS DUPLICATIVE WE THINK THIS IS
IMPORTANT. AND FINALLY I WOULD
JUST SIMPLY SAY THAT THE- THERE
IS A LAG TIME IN GET MOVING FROM
PROVISIONAL LICENCES TO REGULAR
LICENSES. BUT THE POPE BUT THE
PROBLEM HAS NOT BEEN D.
DEPARTMENT CANNABIS CONTROL
REVIEW IT HAS BEEN THAT THE
LOCAL AGENCIES HAVE HAD A VERY
DIFFICULT TIME. CONDUCTING THEIR
SEQUIN ALICE'S AND ISN'T THAT SO
THAT'S WHERE THE HOLD UP IS AND
WE DO BELIEVE THIS IS THAT IS
IMPORTANT FOR DCC TO CONTINUE TO
HAVE RESPONSIBLE AGENCY-
AUTHORITY THANK YOU. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH ANY ADDITIONAL
WITNESSES- STONE THERE ARE MANY
MORE PRIMARY ONE THIS IS IN
OPPOSITION TO RUN GO TO. ADD ON
IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL- FOLKS
WANT TO ADD THE NAME
ORGANIZATION THERE WITH IF ANY-
AND- POSITION ON THE BILL.
THIRTY CAN ON BEHALF OF THE RULE
COUNTY REPRESENTATIVES OF
CALIFORNIANS STRONG SUPPORT
THANK YOU. THIS IS YOUR MEMBERS
RANDY MARTIN ON BEHALF OF THE
PARENT COMPANY A VERY STRONG
SUPPORT THANK YOU THANK YOU.
ALLYSHIP ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA CANNABIS
MANUFACTURERS ASSOCIATION ALSO
KEEP THE CONFECTIONS IN SUPPORT
THANK YOU. IT AWHILE THERE ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA STATE
ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES IN
STRONG SUPPORT THANK YOU. NICK
ROMAN WE HAVE THE CITY OF DESERT
HOT SPRINGS IN SUPPORT THANK YOU
. HOW IT THE MODEL WE HAVE
CALIFORNIA NORMAL CONSUMERS AS
WELL AS EASY IN SUPPORT. THANK
YOU. ANY FOLKS WANNA ADD ON IN
OPPOSITION TO THE BILL. MORNING
MY NAME IS ERIN WOOLLEY ON
BEHALF OF SIERRA CLUB CALIFORNIA
AS WELL AS TROUT UNLIMITED
CALIFORNIA TROUT THE CALIFORNIA
COASTAL PROTECTION NETWORK.
PLANNING AND CONSERVATION LEAGUE
AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION
INFORMATION CENTER IN OPPOSITION
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY
ADDITIONAL WITNESSES ONE ALMAS
ISSHIN SEEN NINE BRING IT BACK
TO COLLEAGUES FOR QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS I'VE GOT AS A MEMBER OF
REYES THINGS NUMBER GIPSON.
THANK YOU THANK YOU ALL FOR
SENATOR A QUESTION ON THE ISSUE
OF- THE- SEEKER REVIEW- OF. THE
CURRENT STATUS OF- OF
APPLICANTS- I HEARD YOU ARE I
HEARD I THINK THE TESTIMONY SAID
THAT. ROUGHLY HALF OF CORRECT ME
ON THE NUMBERS BUT- HAVE BEEN- I
HAVE HAD THE COMPLETED- REVIEW
BY BOTH THE LOCAL AGENCY AND-
THE DEPARTMENT IS THAT. EARLY
VERY HONEST- THE DEPARTMENT
WOULD HAVE TO ANSWER THE PRECISE
SITUATION- IT IS PROBABLY IN
THAT BALLPARK OKAY. AND IN
RESPONSE TO THE BUT LET ME ADD
ONE THING. BECAUSE THAT DOES NOT
CHARACTERIZE WHO'S IN THAT. AND
THE REAL DISTINCTION HERE RIGHT
NOW. IS THE BIG ONES THAT HAVE
RESOURCES ARE GOING TO THE
PROCESS THE SMALL ONES OR THE
ONES THAT ARE BEING PUSHED OUT
IF WE DON'T FIX THE SYSTEM. THIS
PORTIONS SMALL CANNABIS GROWERS
OUT OF THE SYSTEM AND I HAPPEN
TO REPRESENT- UP THE LEGACY BIG
SERVER ARE CANNABIS GROWERS IN
MY DISTRICT AND I ARE
STRUGGLING. THE DAY ARE ON THE
EDGE OF NOT HAVING A WINDOW A TO
MOVE HERE AND THAT IS. IT WHO
WAS IN THOSE NUMBERS AS IT IS AS
IMPORTANT AS WHAT THE NUMBERS
ARE AND THEY CURRENTLY HAVE A
PROVISIONAL. THAT WHAT IT IS YES
WELL AND THAT EXPIRES ONE. IT'S
COMING UP BUT I DON'T KNOW THE
PRECISE DATE OKAY- AS FAR AS
YOUR INTENT FROM YOUR
PRESENTATION AND FROM WHAT I
READ IN THE ANALYSIS AND FROM
YOUR- STATEMENT. YOU'RE NOT
LOOKING TO ELIMINATE SEEK POWER
BY ANY MEANS YOU'RE LOOKING TO
ALLOW. THE CITY THE LOCAL AGENCY
TO PERFORM SYKORA. AND NOT
REQUIRE THE APPLICANTS TO GO
THROUGH A SECOND- ROUND A SEQUEL
FROM THE DEPARTMENT THAT'S
CORRECT AND I. AM AND TO ADD
GIVEN SOME OF THE TESTIMONY AND
I WISH THE DEPARTMENT OF
CANNABIS CONTROL WAS HERE. OUT
TO SPEAK TO IT DIRECTLY ARE THEY
STILL DO LOOK. AT THE C. QUOTE
IF IT'S NOT THEM THAT IS
PERFORMING AT THIS IS NOT THEM
WALKING AWAY FROM IT ARE THEY
ARE INVOLVED IN IT AND I HAVE
REALLY. PORSCHE TO SOME OF THE
PARTIES THAT ARE IN OPPOSITION
TO THE FACT THAT THIS IS A
CRISIS GIVE ME AN ALTERNATIVE
AND IF IN FACT. AN ALTERNATIVE
IS TO DO SEQUEL AT WHATEVER THE
BEST REPRESENTATIVE LEVEL WAS
AND THE ONE MOST COMPLETED TO
THE EXTENT WE CAN DETERMINE THAT
AND STATUTES I'M OPEN TO THAT.
THE REAL ISSUE HERE IS TO BOTH
DO THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW AND
MAKE SURE IT'S DONE. BUT NOT DO
IT REPEATEDLY IN A WAY THAT IT
DRIVES TO SMALL PEOPLE OUT OF
THE BUSINESS RIGHT THANK YOU FOR
EXPLAINING. THANK YOU A SUMMER
GIPSON. THANK YOU VERY MUCH-
CENTER WAS A THANK YOU VERY MUCH
OF BRING THIS THOUGHTFUL PIECE
OF LEGISLATION BEFORE US I WANT
TO BE CONSIDERED AS A CO AUTHOR
OF THE BILLS IF YOU WOULD. BE SO
KIND TO ADD ME AS A CO AUTHOR OF
THE BILL. AND I JUST WANT TO-
SUPPORTS YOU IS REAL REGARDING
MAKING SURE THAT THE SMALL
CANNABIS- INDUSTRY STAYS INTACT
THIS IS WHAT'S DRIVING THEM OUT.
AND THIS IS WHAT IS ELEVATING
ARM THE BLACK MARKET THOSE
ILLEGAL CANNABIS OPERATORS COME
IN AND POLITICAL RATE OUR
COMMUNITY OUR CITY- I WAS TO GO
TO FORCES SAY EVEN IN THE CITY
OF COMPTON WHERE I REPRESENT-
ILLEGAL- CANNABIS OPERATOR.
CONTINUE TO BE THERE SO THE CITY
DID THEY TOOK A BULLDOZER AND
KNOCK DOWN THE BUILDING. SO THEY
WON'T HAVE TO OPERATE. AND SO WE
APPLAUD THEM FOR TAKING THOSE
KINDS OF ACTIONS. BECAUSE THIS
MARKET IS. BASICALLY GETTING OUT
OF CONTROL AND THE ILLEGAL
ILLICIT MARKET IS THE ONE WHO'S
DOMINATED SO AGAIN THANK YOU
VERY MUCH FOR LEADERSHIP AND-
LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THIS BILL
PROGRESS. THANK YOU SO NUMBER.
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS FROM COLLEAGUES IN NON
CENTER WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE
YES I REALLY APPRECIATE THE
DEBATE AND- I AM OPEN TO WORKING
ON THIS IF IT MEETS THE INTENT
OF THE BILL. THAT IS THE
IMPORTANT THING IN EARLIER TODAY
AND I WAS LOOKING AROUND THIS AT
LEAST TWO PEOPLE WHAT PRESENTED
ANOTHER BILL. THAT TRIES TO DEAL
WITH THE BLACK MARKET AND THE
WATER BOARD'S ABILITY TO NOT
HAVE TO NOTIFY PEOPLE TWENTY
FOUR HOURS IN ADVANCE WHEN
JOINING WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT TO
COMMENT. BECAUSE ALL THESE
THINGS HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER SO
I APPRECIATE THE DEBATE IF
THERE'S NEED TO ARM CAN. I WOULD
CONTINUE TO WORK ON THE BILL AND
I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST AN IPHONE
THANK. THAT YEAH. YEAH THANK YOU
CENTER LAYERED- FOR TRYING TO
TACKLE THIS THIS VERY
COMPLICATED ISSUE AND YOUR
OPENNESS TO DIFFERENT WAYS TO.
ACCOMPLISH THE GOAL AND I KNOW
THAT- THERE WILL BE MORE ROBUST
DISCUSSION OF THIS BILL AND
NATURAL RESOURCES COMMITTEE- SO
IN THE MEANTIME I'M HAPPY TO
SUPPORT THE BILL HERE TODAY.
MADAM SECRETARY PLEASE CALL THE
VOTE. SB FIVE OH EIGHT LAYERED
THE MOTION IS DUE PASSED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON NATURAL RESOURCES
BERMAN HI. BERMAN HI FLORA. LARA
AYE ALANIZ AYE ALANIZ AYE
ALVAREZ. ALVAREZ I BAINS. BAINS
I BONTA AYE BONTA AYE CHAN. CHEN
AYE DIXON. GIPSON GIPSON I
GRAYSON. GRAYSON I IRWIN. IRWIN
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LOWENTHAL. LOWENTHAL AYE
MCCARTY. MCCANN- I CAN- I WENT.
WHEN I PATTERSON. THANK THANK I
SAT CENTER ALLEN ARE YOU HERE TO
PRESENT ON SENATE LEADERS BILL-
ALLEN. IT'S AN HONOR. TO HAVE
YOU PRESENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER
TWO S. B. TWO EIGHTY FIVE OF
THIS YEAR'S TO TEAR. I'VE SO DO
YOU SEE A SIMILAR. AS WHICH IS
SLIGHTLY MORE EXPENSIVE-
EARLIER. SO YOU KNOW THAT UNDER
EXISTING LAW MANY AND LOCAL
LOCAL JURISDICTIONS ARE ALLOWED
TO AUTHORIZE THE SMOKING VAPING
INGESTING OF. CANNABIS AND
CANNABIS PRODUCTS. ARE ON THE
PREMISE OF THE PREMISES OF A LOT
OF A LICENSE RETAILER MICRO
BUSINESS WHICH IS A IT WAS
CALLED THE CANNABIS CONSUMPTION
LOUNGE. BUT THE CURRENCY
REGULATIONS PREVENT THESE
LOUNGES FROM PREPARING AND
SELLING FRESHLY MADE FOOD AND
BEVERAGES EVEN AT A LOCAL
JURISDICTION WOULD OTHERWISE
ALLOW THEM TO RIGHT NOW THEY'RE
LIMITED TO PRE PACKAGED ITEMS
LIKE CANDY OR BOTTLED WATER. SO
I'M- THIS BILL SEEKS TO CHANGE
THAT BY ALLOWING LOCAL
JURISDICTIONS TO PERMITTED IF
THEY WANT TO IF THEY FEEL AS
THOUGH. I YOU KNOW LOCAL
CONDITIONS WOULD WOULD WOULD
RECOMMEND THAT THESE THESE
FRESHLY MADE ITEMS WOULD BE NON
CANNABIS INFUSED NON ALCOHOLIC.
ESSENTIALLY THE KIND OF THINGS
YOU MIGHT FIND AND- YOU KNOW.
YEAH THANKS ARE COOKED FOOD
BURGER FRIES SOMETHING LIKE THAT
I'M THIS IS- THIS IS REQUIRED
COSTLY THE CURRENT SITUATION IS
REQUIRED COSTLY CUMBERSOME
WORKAROUNDS FOR CANNABIS LOUNGES
TO PROVIDE OUR GUESTS WITH
EXPECTED EXPERIENCE. BY EITHER
TAKING OUT TWO DIFFERENT
PROPERTY LEASES ARE HAVING FOOD
ITEMS DELIVERED IN FROM OUTSIDE
VENDORS. AND SO TO THE ADDRESS
THIS THE BILL WOULD AUTHORIZE A
LOCAL JURISDICTIONS TO ALLOW
THESE LOUNGES TO PER PARENTS ARE
FRESH MADE ITEMS WHILE ADDITION
EXTENDED THE ABILITY. TO ON TO
SELL PREPACKAGED ITEMS OTHER
CANNABIS RETAILERS I THINK WE'RE
GOING TO BE- DROP IN THAT
PORTION. OF THE BILL DOES NOT
LEGALIZE INDOOR SMOKING IS
EXISTING STATUTE PROVIDES LOCALS
WITH THE BILL THE AUTHOR
OPERATION OF CONFECTIONERIES
ALREADY. ARE THE BILL CONCERNS
NOTHING BEYOND PROVIDING LOCAL
AUTHORITIES WITH WITH THIS THIS
DECISION MAKING POWER ON- WITH
THE RIGHTS TO FOOD BEVERAGE
SALES. SO THE BILL HAS BROAD
BIPARTISAN SUPPORT- AND I
RESPECTFULLY ASK RIVAL. THANK
YOU SANDER. GERMANY PRIMER
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL
. I THINK SO. YEAH OKAY. C. NINE
PRIMER WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION
TO THE BILL. YOUR TWO MINUTES
EACH. GOOD MORNING MEMBERS AND
CHAIR- TIM GIBBS AT THE AMERICAN
LUNG ASSOCIATION AND AS A KEY
PLAYER IN THE BATTLES THAT TOOK
PLACE IN THE NINETEEN NINETIES
TO PROHIBIT SMOKING IN
WORKPLACES. AND IN PARTICULAR
BARS RESTAURANTS WE MUST END UP
AGAIN IN DEFENSE OF CALIFORNIOS
WORKERS BEING FORCED TO BE
EXPOSED TO TOXIC CHEMICALS AND
CARCINOGENS IN THE WORKPLACE YOU
KNOW THIS BILL WOULD REPRESENT.
A GIANT STEP BACKWARDS FOR
WORKER SAFETY WOULD ALLOW FOR
CANNABIS LOUNGES TO ESSENTIALLY
BECOME A RESTAURANT. NOT BE
ADDING IN AN ENTIRE NEW LAYER OF
EMPLOYEES TO BE EXPOSED TO
TOXINS IN THE WORKPLACE. LET'S
BE CLEAR IN SECOND IN MARATHWADA
SMOKE MUCH LIKE THE- TOBACCO
SMOKE IS DAN. YOU KNOW SOME
SMOKE AND ANYTIME AN INTERESTING
LUNGS IT'S BAD FOR YOU YOU KNOW
WE'VE HEARD NO ONE IN THIS
DEBATE OVER THIS BILL MAKE THE
CASE THAT SECOND CANNIBAL
CANNABIS SMOKERS NOT INTERESTS
YOU KNOW SECOND. CANNABIS SMOKE
CONTAINS MANY OF THE SAME.
CANCER CAUSING SUBSTANCES AND
TOXIC CHEMICALS IS SECOND HAND
TOBACCO SMOKE SOME OF THE KNOWN
CARCINOGENS OR TOXINS PRESENT IN
MARIJUANA SMOKE INCLUDE-
ACETALDEHYDE AMMONIA ARSENIC
BENZENE CADMIUM CHROMIUM
FORMALDEHYDE. AND YOU KNOW MANY
OTHERS ARE TURNING TO CANNABIS
BUSINESS. INTO A RESTAURANT.
WOULD PUT KITCHEN STAFF SERVERS
AND MANY OTHER TYPES OF WORKERS
AT RISK. NO DO WE REALLY WANT TO
GO BACK TO THE DAYS FORCING
WORKERS TO SERVE FOOD AND SMOKE
FILLED ROOMS. NO THE STATED
INTENT OF THE BILL IS TO PROVIDE
CAT CANNABIS. BUSINESSES AND
WITH OTHER ECONOMIC
OPPORTUNITIES. BUT THAT SHOULD
NOT COME AT THE EXPENSE OF
WORKER SAFETY- WE URGE A NO VOTE
ON THIS LEGISLATION. YEAH THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. PLEASE GO AHEAD.
THANK YOU TO YOUR BERMAN MEMBERS
I'M DOCTOR LYNN SILVER
PEDIATRICIAN- SENIOR ADVISER AT
THE PUBLIC HEALTH INSTITUTE A
PROFESSOR AT UCSF AND A MEMBER
OF THE PROP SIXTY FOUR ADVISORY
GROUP. WE DEEPLY OPPOSE THIS
BILL FOR TWO REASONS FIRST. AS
TO MENTION SMOKE FREE AIR IS ONE
OF OUR GREAT ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF
THE LAST CENTURY PREVENTING
COUNTLESS DEATHS FROM HEART
DISEASE AND CANCER. AND
TRANSFORMING SOCIAL MOORS AROUND
SMOKING. UNLIKE MY GENERATION MY
CHILDREN AND YOURS HAVE GROWN UP
IN SMOKE FREE ENVIRONMENTS ARE
WORKERS SAFE FROM SMOKE
EXPOSURE. CALIFORNIA WAS
PIONEER. THE SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE
IS CRYSTAL CLEAR WHILE THESE
DIFFERENT CANNABIS SMOKE IS NOT
SAFER AND IT'S QUITE POSSIBLY
WORSE THAN TOBACCO SMOKE. SB TWO
EIGHTY FIVE WILL FUNDAMENTALLY
UNDERMINE THAT PROGRESS BY
BRINGING BACK SMOKE FILLED
RESTAURANTS AND BAR LIKE
ENVIRONMENTS. THEREBY EXPOSING
FAR MORE WORKERS INCLUDING
PREGNANT WOMEN MORE EXTENSIVELY
TO HARMFUL SECONDHAND CANNABIS
SMOKE. SECOND AS ASTUTELY NOTED
BY MR SUMNER AND HIS ANALYSIS
THIS BILL WILL ALLOW CANNABIS
RETAILERS TO BECOME GROCERS AND
TWENTY ONE PLUS FOOD STORES TO
BE CANNABIS RETAILERS. THIS
TRIVIALIZES THE SIGNIFICANT
MENTAL AND PHYSICAL HEALTH RISKS
OF TODAY'S SMORGASBORD OF ULTRA
HIGH POTENCY CANNABIS. IT MAY
ALSO CONSTITUTE A BACKDOOR ROUTE
TO LEGALIZE SALES OF HIM
CONTAINING FOODS. WHICH OFTEN
HAVE MORE THC THAN ALLOWED IN
CANNABIS EDIBLES AND FAR WEAKER
SAFETY STANDARDS BY CANNABIS
RETAILERS. IN OUR STAKE DAILY
CANNABIS USE BY ADULTS HAS
ALREADY TRIPLED USED DURING
PREGNANCY HAS NEARLY DOUBLED
EXPOSING CHILDREN TO LONG TERM
OR DEPEND DEVELOPMENTAL HARM.
CANNABIS ER VISITS ARE UP 18100%
IN OLDER ADULTS. WHEN WE VOTED
TO LEGALIZE WE ENVISIONED NOT
SENDING PEOPLE TO JAIL NOT
MAKING CANNABIS RETAILERS THE
PLACE TO STOP AND GET A COKE.
ENDING CRIMINALIZATION IS
POSITIVE GOING BACKWARDS ON
SMOKE CREARE AND TRIVIALIZING
CANNABIS HEALTH RISKS IS NOT.
PLEASE PROTECT FUTURE
GENERATIONS FROM SECONDHAND
SMOKE AND CANNABIS LEGAL BUT
SPECIALIZED BUSINESS. PLEASE
VOTE NAY THANK YOU. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH- WE'RE GONNA MOVE TO
ANY ME TOO IN SUPPORT OF THE
BILL ANYBODY WANT TO ADD ON IN
SUPPORT OF. SB TWENTY FIVE READ
YOUR NAME ORGANIZATION WITH IF
ANY IMPOSITION ON THE BILL. MR
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS RANDY MARTIN ON
BEHALF OF THE PARENT COMPANY IN
STRONG SUPPORT THANK YOU THANK
YOU. PALLIDOTOMY HALF OF
CALIFORNIA NORMAL IN STRONG
SUPPORT THANK YOU. CARE MEMBERS
ALICIA PRIEGO ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA CANNABIS
MANUFACTURERS ASSOCIATION IN
SUPPORT THANK YOU. ANYBODY WANT
TO ADD ON IN OPPOSITION TO THE
BILL. ONE OF PROVIDING NAME
ORGANIZATION YOU'RE WITH ANY
POSITION ON THE BILL. TURN
MEMBERS ARE MOUNTAINS WITH WITH
THE AMERICAN CANCER SOCIETY
CANCER ACTION NETWORK ALSO IN
OPPOSITION THANK YOU. MISTER
CHAIRMAN BURGERS INJURY AND TWEE
AND RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION ON
BEHALF OF THE AMERICAN HEART
ASSOCIATION THANK YOU. BRING
BACK THE COLLEAGUES QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS THIS SUMMER BONTA. BUT
THANK YOU SENATOR ALLEN CAN YOU
JUST DIVE IN A LITTLE BIT TO THE
SLIPPERY SLOPE. THE ARGUMENT
THAT THE OPPOSITION IS OFFERING
A AND JUST GIVE US A KIND OF A
PRACTICAL APPLICATION OF THIS.
EFFECT IF IT IF THERE'S A
CANNABIS AT SHOP ESSENTIALLY-
THAT LAUER'S THE PURPOSE OF THAT
LOUNGE IS TO GO IN AND SMOKE.
CORRECT THAT'S SEPARATE I MEAN
THE SO I INVITE FOLKS TO GO TO
PAGE TWO OF YOUR ANALYSIS THE
TALKS ABOUT HOW. UNDER CURRENT
THE CURRENT THE STATUS QUO.
CURRENT LAW AUTHORIZES A LOCAL
JURISDICTION TO ALLOW FOR THESE
CANNABIS LOUNGES THE FOLKS THAT
ARE WORKING THERE HAVE CHOSEN TO
GO WORK AT A CANNABIS LOUNGE
WHERE SMOKING IS HAPPENING. I'M
AND- AND IN THE CURRENT LAW
ALLOWS FOR OUT FOR THE SALE OF
FOOD IT'S JUST THAT IT'S
PACKAGED FOOD. I'M YOU KNOW WHAT
WAS SAID SO WE'RE WHEN WE'RE
TALK ABOUT CANNABIS LOUNGES NOT
APPLEBEE'S I MEAN YOU KNOW AND
IF I'M HAPPY TO YOU KNOW WHAT
ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WE'VE HAD
HERE IS I THINK THAT THE
OPPOSITION AND I RESPECT A GREAT
DEAL. I JUST FUNDAMENTALLY HAS A
PROBLEM WITH WITH YOU KNOW
CANNABIS LOUNGES AND A PLACE
WHERE PEOPLE CAN SMOKE MORE
PEOPLE WORK. OUT WHAT WERE
SMOKING IS HAPPENING AND- I'M
I'M CERTAINLY HAPPY TO LOOK AT
ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE THAT WOULD.
MAKE IT SO THAT WE CAN. IF
PEOPLE WANT TO TIGHTEN IT UP AND
ENSURE THAT THERE'S NO POSSIBLE
SLIPPERY SLOPE TOWARD TOWARD
TOWARD THAT RESTAURANTS. I YOU
KNOW I'M HAPPY TO TAKE IN THAT
KIND OF LANGUAGE I'M I'M OPEN TO
SUGGESTIONS I THINK THE
CHALLENGE WE'VE HAD IS THAT. THE
FOR THE FOLKS IN OPPOSITION OF
JUST OUT OF THE FINAL
DISAGREEMENT WITH. WITH HAVING
THESE KINDS OF INSTITUTIONS
BECAUSE YOU KNOW THEY THEY HAVE
LEGITIMATE CONCERNS ABOUT THE
INGESTION OF ANY TYPE OF SMOKE.
BUT WE'RE TALKING VERY
SPECIFICALLY ABOUT CANNABIS
LOUNGES HERE. WHERE FOOD IS
ALREADY ALLOWED TO BE SOLD. I IT
WOULD JUST ALLOW IT INSTEAD OF
PRE PACKAGED IT WOULD BE ALLOWED
FOR. FOR FRESH FOOD THAT IS
THAT'S LITERALLY THE THERE'S ALL
THIS HAPPENING HERE BY THE WAY.
IT WOULDN'T MAKE A UNILATERAL
PERMISSION IT WOULD ALLOW LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS TO ALLOW FOR. THE
PER THE SALE OF THIS TYPE OF
FOOD. BUT AS I SAY IF THERE'S
MORE LANGUAGE WE CAN WE CAN USE
TO TIGHTEN UP- SO IS TO. ENSURE
THAT PEOPLE FEEL REALLY
COMFORTABLE THERE'S NO POSSIBLE
BELIEVE OVER. I TOOK TO
RESTAURANTS I'M I'M SO HAPPY TO
TAKE THAT LANGUAGE BUT- YOU
WHERE WE'RE FOR FITTING THIS
INTO THE- BUSINESS PROFESSIONS
CODE. I'M WHICH IS WHICH IS
OUTLINED AND I'M ITEM EIGHT ON
ON PAGE TWO OF YOUR ANALYSIS. AT
WHICH WHICH SPECIFIES WHAT IT
WHAT AT A CANNABIS. CONSUMPTION
LOUNGES AND THAT'S ALL THIS BILL
IMPACTS. IN IS IT POSSIBLE TO
INSURE IS IT POSSIBLE TO HAVE A
CANNABIS LOUNGE. EXIST IN A
RESTAURANT. RIGHT NOW KNOWN AS
LIKE A BACK ROOM OR- SOME SAYS
SOME KIND OF SEPARATED ENTITY. I
DON'T BELIEVE SO I THINK YOU
HAVE TO GET A TOTALLY DIFFERENT
PERMITTED HAVE TO BE A DIFFERENT
COMPANY DIFFERENT BUSINESS. ON
THERE THERE'S ACTUALLY A GREATER
SENSITIVITY ABOUT THIS BECAUSE
OF ALL THE ISSUES THAT HAVE YOU
KNOW THAT THAT THE OPPOSITION IS
FOR EVERY TASTE. I'M AND BY THE
WAY LET ALSO MAY CHILDREN WITH
BARBARA UP AND THAT'S- IT.
CONCERN OF THAT I HAVEN'T
ANOTHER'S. ONE OF THE MANY VERY
. BRACHER HEAD. RESTRICTIONS
ASSOCIATE WITH CAMOUFLAGE THAT
YOU CANNOT BE UNDER TWENTY ONE.
AND ENTER CANNABIS OUT YOU CAN
WALK IN. ODD SO IT'S MY
UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT IT THAT
IT'S NOT IT HAS TO BE A TOTALLY.
A CANNOT BE INCORPORATED INTO AN
EXISTING RESTAURANT IT HAS TO BE
TOTALLY DIFFERENT BUSINESS- BUT
IF THERE'S ANY IF THERE'S ANY
AMBIGUITY OR ANY LOOPHOLE THAT
PEOPLE COME UP WITH ON ON THAT
POINT I'M HAPPY TO. TAKE SOME
ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE INTO THE
BILL THE SPECIFIED REALLY
CONCRETE TIES. BUT I AGREE I
DON'T WANT THIS TO BE SOMETHING
THAT THEY BELIEVES INTO THE
RESTAURANT INDUSTRY. JOHN AGO
SLIMMER LOWENTHAL INSULIN MEMBER
ALVAREZ IS ONLY NUMBER BEGINNER
. I THINK YOU MISTER CHAIR I
HAVE A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS- FOR
BOTH SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION AND
THEN. I MAY COME BACK WITH SOME
COMMENTS LOOK A LITTLE BIT
LATER. I'M SO FIRST THE
OPPOSITION I'D LIKE TO ASK. IS
THERE ANY SCENARIO WHERE YOU
COULD SUPPORT THIS BILL. IN
OTHER WORDS. I AM NOT AS WRITTEN
CURRENTLY. IN OTHER WORDS BOB
YOU FOCUSED ON THE SAFETY OF
WORKERS COMPLETELY AND NOT
NECESSARILY ON THE RESTAURANT
COMPONENT. ARE THERE ANY
PROVISIONS THAT COULD BE CHANGED
THAT WOULD INCREASE WORKER
SAFETY SO FOR EXAMPLE.
VENTILATION I AN OUTDOOR
COMPONENT. MEASURING AND
CREATING METRICS. AROUND YOU
KNOW WHAT IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING
IN THE LOUNGE ITSELF IS THERE
ANY TYPE OF MEASURING COMPONENT
. ODD THAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER OR
ANYTHING HERE AND THE LAST
QUESTION I WOULD ASK YOU IS HAVE
YOU HAD ANY DIRECT. CONVERSATION
WITH THE AUTHOR ON THIS TOPIC. A
STEM GIVES THE AMERICAN LUNG
ASSOCIATION I ANSWER YOUR- LAST
QUESTION FIRST- YES WE HAVE TALK
WITH THE AUTHOR'S OFFICE- OF UP
ABOUT THE ISSUE ON. IN TERMS OF-
ANY AMENDMENTS THAT THAT. COULD
BRING US INTO SUPPORT- NOW I
MEAN- CERTAINLY THINGS WE COULD
PROBABLY DO THAT WOULD- MAKE IS
NEUTRAL- YOU KNOW FOR EXAMPLE.
IF WE ARE ONLY TALKING ABOUT
EDIBLES THAT WOULD AND I'M ONLY
SPEAKING FOR THE AMERICAN LUNG
ASSOCIATION AUTHOR I CAN'T SPEAK
FOR THE REST OF THE COLLISION-
BUT THAT WOULD BRING US INTO
NEUTRALITY. AND NOTHING ABOUT AN
OUTDOOR VERSES INDOOR. REQUIRING
A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF VENTILATION
ABOUT ANY MEASURING ONE OF
THINGS THAT CONCERNS ME IS THAT.
YOU TALK ABOUT CARCINOGENS THAT
ARE- THAT EXISTING CANNABIS BUT
I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND. YOU
KNOW FROM THAT WHETHER OR NOT. I
SECONDHAND SMOKE FROM CIGARETTES
IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS
SECONDHAND SMOKE FROM CANNABIS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE IMPACTS
ARE BASED ON THE TESTIMONY THAT
YOU PROVIDED. I'D LIKE TO
UNDERSTAND THAT A LITTLE BIT
BETTER. IS THERE ANY RESEARCH
THAT'S BEEN DONE ON THAT IS
THERE ANY CONCLUSIVE RESEARCH
THAT DISTINGUISHES. THAT SAYS
THAT CANNABIS SECONDHAND SMOKE
IS AS DEADLY AS TOBACCO
SECONDHAND SMOKE. THANK YOU-
ASSEMBLY MEMBER LOWENTHAL AND
ASSEMBLY MEMBER BONTA- FIRST I
JUST WANTED TO START BRIEFLY
WITH THE QUESTION FROM ASSEMBLY
MEMBER TO BONTA WHICH IS THAT IT
DOES CREATE RESTAURANTS
RESTAURANTS THAT ARE LIMITED TO
PEOPLE WHO ARE TWENTY ONE AND
OVER BUT WHEN YOU. SERVE FOOD
AND PREPARE FOOD- THAT IS A
RESTAURANT ENVIRONMENT. ALLMAN
WHY ARE WE CONCERNED IN ANSWER
TO YOUR QUESTION THERE IS GOOD
IN THE MERGING EVIDENCE ON
CANNABIS SMOKE- IT SHOWS FOR
EXAMPLE THAT IT IMPEDES CARDIAC
ENDOTHELIAL CELLS FOR ABOUT
NINETY SECONDS AFTER JUST ONE
MINUTE OF EXPOSURE LONGER THAN
TOBACCO SMOKE DOES. IT
INTERFERES WITH PLACENTAL
FUNCTION IT HAS FOUR AND A HALF
TIMES THE AMOUNT OF PARTICULATE
MATTER OF CIGARETTE SMOKE- WE
DON'T HAVE AS LONG A PERIOD OF
STUDY. AS WE DO FOR TOBACCO
SMOKE SO MANY OF THE LONGER
ANALYSES OF HEALTH IMPACTS ARE
NOT AS CLEAR- WE- DO NOTE THAT
VENTILATION DOES NOT WORK THE
NATIONAL SOCIETY OF- ASHTRAY THE
SOCIETY OF A VENTILATION AND
HEATING ENGINEERS. HAS LONG- HAD
A VERY CLEAR POSITION THAT
VENTILATION CANNOT ADEQUATELY ON
CANNABIS THEY'VE BEEN TALK TO
THEIR OF CURRENT MOST RECENT
UPDATE TALKS ABOUT SMOKE YEAH
IT'S VERY. VERY CONCERNED NOT TO
MAKE THAT WORSE OKAY IT'S VERY
CONCERNING TO ME. THAT WE ARE
TALKING ABOUT SMOKE. THIS IS
CANNABIS TOBACCO SMOKE. BECAUSE
THE RULES THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW
ARE ABOUT. TOBACCO SMOKE. AND SO
NOW WE'RE MAKING RULES
POTENTIALLY RULES IN REGARDS TO
CANNABIS SMOKE. AND WHAT I'M
HEARING FROM YOU AS WE DON'T
HAVE ADEQUATE RESEARCH RIGHT NOW
THAT THERE ARE SOME OF THE-
COMPONENTS ARE PRESENT BUT WE
DON'T HAVE ADEQUATE RESEARCH IS
THAT CORRECT. WE HAVE SUFFICIENT
RESEARCH TO BE EXTREMELY
CONCERNED THE CONCERNED
PROPOSITION SIXTY FOUR NOTED
THAT SMOKING SHOULD NOT BE
ALLOWED IN PLACES WHERE TOBACCO
SMOKING WAS NOT ALLOWED WITH THE
EXCEPTION OF LOCALLY APPROVED ON
SITE CONSUMPTION LOUNGES WHICH
WAS IN. OPPOSITION SIXTY FOUR-
BUT THAT DID NOT ANSWER FOOD
CORRECT WHICH DID NOT SERVE FOOD
IN THE SERVICE OF FOOD WAS
SOMETHING THAT WAS INPUT INTO
REGULATION NOT LAW WHICH WE
OPPOSED WE HAVE SPOKEN TO THE
AUTHOR'S OFFICE- BUT WE DID NOT
FIND. A CHANGES THAT COULD MAKE
THIS ACCEPTABLE OKAY CAL AND
THEN I ALSO QUESTION FOR THE-
FOR THE SENDER. CAN TOBACCO BE
SMOKED IN A CANNABIS LOUNGE. NO
NO UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES CAN
WHO COULD BE SMOKED. MANY
CANNABIS LOUNGE TODAY NO THESE I
MEAN THESE ARE THIS IS THIS THE
RULES ARE VERY. VERY VERY STRICT
ACTUALLY I MEAN IT'S ONLY
CANNABIS OR CANNABIS- SMOKING
CAN. TAKE PLACE AND THEN THE
LAST. AND WHY IS THAT THIS IS
THE WAY THAT THINGS WERE
STRUCTURE AS YOU KNOW COMING OUT
OF THE PROPOSITION. WE'VE BEEN
REALLY TIGHT ABOUT THE RULES FOR
A LOT OF GOOD REASONS. MANY OF
WHICH OF AN ARTICULATE HERE AND-
EVERY TIME YOU TRY TO MAKE A
LITTLE CHANGE THEIR TEARS IT'S
HARD AND IT SHOULD BE. THANK
MISTER. THANK YOU I'M ALONG WITH
ALSO A MIRROR ALVAREZ. THANK YOU
AND I WANNA THANK MY COLLEAGUE
FROM LONG BEACH FOR QUESTIONS
THAT I HAD INTENDED TO ASK
SPECIFICALLY ON THE DATA I THANK
GOD. THE OPPOSITION RAISES
CONCERNS BUT I- WHICH-
DEFINITELY- CATCH MY ATTENTION
BUT I'D BE INTERESTED IN SEEING.
MORE DATA ON. ON WHAT THE SMOKE
- SECONDHAND SMOKE. OF CANNABIS.
MEANS TO PEOPLE'S HEALTH SO IT
I. AM STILL. THANK WOULD LIKE TO
SEE THAT GOING FORWARD BUT-
SPECIFICALLY TODAY. I THINK MY
OWN AFTER THOSE QUESTIONS ARE
ASKED MY ONLY REMAINING QUESTION
IS RELATED TO AND IT'S PRETTY
CLEAR AND IT AS CENTER POINT OUT
PAGE TO OUR ANALYSIS- BUSINESS
AND PROFESSIONS CODE IDENTIFY
EXACTLY WHAT'S ALLOWED AND
WHAT'S NOT ALLOWED AND- ALCOHOL
TOBACCO IS NOT THIS DOESN'T
CHANGE THAT. ARE CANNABIS
CONSUMPTION IS NOT VISIBLE FROM
ANY PUBLIC PLACE OR NON AGE
RESTRICTED AREA THIS DOES NOT
CHANGE THAT AND- ACCESS SIERRA
CANNABIS CONSUMPTION ARTISTIC TO
TWENTY AT PEOPLE WHO ARE TWENTY
ONE YEARS OF AGE OR OLDER- THIS
NOT CHANGED EITHER- THE ONE.
QUESTION THAT I HAVE THOUGH IS
WITH THE SALE OF FOOD. IS A-
WHAT I DON'T SEE IN THE CURRENT
CODE IS DO YOU HAVE TO BE A
CONSUMER. OF EITHER SMOKING OR
EDIBLES OF CANNABIS IN ORDER TO
BE ABLE TO CONSUME THE FOOD AS
WELL. OR CAN YOU GO IN AND ONLY
CONSUME THE FOOD. IS THEN THAT
STARTS TO. SOUND A LITTLE BIT
MORE LIKE A RESTAURANT AS
OPPOSED TO- A LOUNGE WITH. THE
POSSIBILITY CONSUME FOOD WHILE
YOU'RE THERE SO THAT'S THE ONLY
QUESTION THAT'S NOT CLEAR TO ME
SENATOR IF YOU COULD HELP ME
UNDERSTAND- YEAH I DON'T THINK
THAT THE RULES SPECIFY- YOU
KNOW. IT'S A PRETTY PRICEY PLACE
TO GO BUY FOOD TYPICALLY- RIGHT
YOU KNOW. BUT BUT BUT BUT I
THOUGHT I'D I DON'T THINK IT'S
SPECIFIED YEAH. I DON'T FEEL
STRONGLY ONE OR THE OTHER I JUST
WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE
UNDERSTAND YOU KNOW WHAT WHAT
THE INTENT IS THAT IT'S VERY
CLEAR YEAH- AND SO- IF THIS
QUESTIONS ARISE FOR ANY OF US
THAT WERE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT
QUESTION SO- APPRECIATE THAT
AND- THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK
YOU THE SOME NUMBER OF RESIDENTS
ON THEM- MAKE KENNER AND THEN.
SUMMER DIXON THANK YOU SENATOR
FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD. WHAT
ONE ONE LITTLE I'M SO SORRY SO
SORRY SONA OR THE WITH THE ONE
CONCERN. I GUESS I WOULD SAY IS
WHAT IF A MUCH DIFFERENT JUST
LIKE IN A BAR RIGHT BUDGET
FRIENDS GO OUT. ONE OF THEM IS
ENTERING GAME. OR NOT A OR IN
THIS CASE ONE ISN'T SMOKING BUT
ONCE ABILITY WITH THEIR FRIENDS
BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA BE
DRIVING. THAT'S ONE THING I JUST
WANT TO THROW OUT THERE WHEN
WE'RE CONSIDERING THIS I YOU
KNOW. YEAH SORRY. YES IN A I
WOULD JUST THINK THAT THIS LIKE.
EQUIVALENT TO LIKE A- CIGAR BAR
I THINK LOUNGE RIGHT. THANK YOU
GO TO A CIGAR LOUNGE WITH YOUR
FRIENDS I DON'T SMOKE CIGARS
WHICH I'VE ONLY BEEN ONCE
BECAUSE I CAN'T TAKE IT BUT-
YOU- YOU GO TO A CIGAR BAR WITH.
LOUNGE WITH YOUR FRIENDS YOU
DAIS THEY SMOKE CIGARS THEY
SERVE SNACKS AND FOOD. AND IT'S
NOT A RESTAURANT IT'S A CIGAR
BAR IN PEOPLE GO THERE. STRICTLY
TO SMOKE CIGARS AND INSIDE BY
THE WAY SO I WOULD THINK THIS IS
KIND OF LIKE A- CIGAR BAR WHERE.
MOST PEOPLE ARE GOING IF THEY'RE
NOT PARTICIPATING. ARE THEY
DON'T LIKE IT THEY DON'T GO BUT
I DON'T THAT'S HOW I KIND OF
THINK OF THIS IT'S NOT A
RESTAURANT. IT'S LITERALLY. A
CIGAR LOUNGE. YEAH THAT THAT
THAT'S EXACTLY HOW WE'RE
THINKING ABOUT IT- YOU KNOW I
AND I GUESS IS THIS
CONVERSATIONS MAKE ME THINK YOU
KNOW IS THERE SOME WAY TO. HELLO
HOW IT IS THE TRICKY THING RIGHT
HOW TO HOW TO RESTRICT THE
AMOUNT OF FOOD THAT'S BEING
SERVED BUT IN A WAY THAT'S NOT-
I HAVE. I I'M I'M I'M HAPPY TO
CONSIDER I'M REALLY HAPPY TO
CONSIDER ALTERNATIVES AND IDEAS
BUT BUT I THINK. THE CELL NUMBER
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT. WHAT WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT HERE THAT IT'S
THAT'S A GREAT ANALOGY. THANK
YOU- THIS AMERICAN AND ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS. THANKS SO MUCH AS A
MEMBER DIXON AND THEN PATTERSON.
AND THEN PAINS AND THEN MAYBE
ALANIZ. YES NOW YOU OKAY PERFECT
SONGHAI DIXON. I THANK YOU
CHAIR. OF QUICK QUESTION. I
THINK THIS IS SOMEBODY IS SORT
OF A MOMENT AGO ABOUT A SLIPPERY
SLOPE. SO BEFORE WE KNOW WE'LL
BE SITTING HERE A YEAR FROM NOW
IN THE NEXT SESSION AND THEN.
SOME OTHER KIND OF RESTAURANT
OR- RETAIL FOOD SERVICE SEVEN
ELEVEN. WILL BE. AS THE DOORS
OPENING TO ALLOW MORE TYPES OF
THESE KINDS OF SERVICES WHAT
ABOUT- THE DOOR DASH TYPE
SERVICE UBER DASH WHERE-
WHATEVER IT'S CALLED OVER. THE
LIVERY SERVICE SO IF. SOMEONE
WANTS TO SEND OVER TO PICK UP. A
SUPPLY OF THE PRE PACKAGED FOOD
AND SOME CANNABIS RELATED FOOD
IS AT PERMITTED. YOU MEAN YOU
MEAN SO RIGHT NOW SO RIGHT NOW
NO WONDER YOU WHAT UNDER YOUR
UNDER THIS BILL WOULD THAT BE
PREVENT LOCAL PEOPLE HAVE DOOR
YES DELIVER TO THE LOUNGE YES
YES AND THEN THERE ARE TWO NOW
BUT IF FROM THE LOUNGE TO HOME.
THE FOOD ITEMS COULD THEY BE
DELIVERED TO HOLLOW COULD THEY
BE A RETAILER FOR FOOD YES. GOSH
I WOULD CERTAINLY BE WILLING TO
TAKE LANGUAGE TO PROHIBIT THAT
IF THAT WAS KIND OF A WORKAROUND
TO RETAIL SHOPS AT LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS AREN'T YOU NOW HAVE
THE OPTION THAT'S NOT A BAD
IDEA- IS THAT WILL ONCE AGAIN
THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE WANT TO.
THAT'S HOW WE'RE TRYING TO DO I
THINK I JUST HAVE TO THINK OF
EVERY POSSIBLE AVENUE WHERE
THERE'S A LITTLE GAP HERE OF
HERE THAT PEOPLE. COULD IT
INVADE OF ENTREPRENEURS WILL
THINK OF HOW TO GET THIS. INTO A
BROADER. AUDIENCE YEAH I WOULD I
WOULD I THINK THAT THAT'S A GOOD
GOOD IDEA OUR ITEM CORP MAKE YOU
VERY MUCH. YEAH NUMBER PATTERSON
. YEAH THANK YOU. I'M JUST SAID
CALM AND I THINK. I'M YOU KNOW
I'M- I DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF
CONSUMPTION SITES- IN GENERAL I
THINK- YOU KNOW I. IF THERE IS
ONE PLACE IN MY COMMUNITY I
WOULD PERSONALLY FIGHT IT- I.
THAT SAID. I THINK IF WERE
HAVING. CONSUMPTION SIDE. WHERE
PEOPLE CAN CONSUME. MY
PREFERENCES ARE ACTUALLY EATING
SOMETHING. I'M JUST LIKE AT A
BAR SOMETHING LIKE THAT IT'S THE
PREFERENCES OF PEOPLE CAN NEED
SOMETHING AND SO THEY'RE NOT
LEAVING ON AN EMPTY STOMACH. I'M
I AM IN NO WAY A SUPPORTER OF
CONSUMPTION SITES. BUT I'M I'M
JUST TRYING TO THINK RESPONSIBLY
ABOUT PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING
SOMETHING THAT'S LEGAL. WHETHER
WE AGREE WITH IT OR NOT. AND
THEY ARE. LEAVING INTOXICATED.
AND THEY'RE UNABLE TO EAT ANY
FOOD I HAVE SERIOUS CONCERNS
ABOUT THAT I'M MORE CONCERNED
ABOUT LIVES ON THE ROAD. ALL
DRIVING AFTER INGESTING CANNABIS
AND HAVING NOTHING IN THEIR
STOMACH- I WOULD PROBABLY
SUPPORT SOMETHING TO EVEN PUT
CONSTRAINTS ON CONSTRUCTION
SITES THAT YOU KNOW EXISTING AT
ALL. I THINK. YOU KNOW. I DON'T
SEE THE PUBLIC NEED FOR THAT PER
SE BUT- WE'RE NOT ARGUING THAT
RIGHT NOW THESE EXIST THERE'S A
LOT OF LOCAL CONTROL IN MY
PERSONAL CITY WHEN WE- WHEN WE-
APPROVED OUR ORDINANCE ON
CANNABIS WE APPROVED ALL
COMMERCIAL USES OF CANNABIS THAT
WE WERE ABLE TO ACCEPT FOR
DELIVERIES BECAUSE OF. YOU KNOW
THAT B. AROSE DETERMINATION ON
THAT BUT SO I AM CONSISTENT IN
OPPOSING THESE TYPES OF
FACILITIES THAT BUT SINCE THEY
ARE OPEN I DO. NOT WANT I WON
ACTUALLY ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO
EIGHT. AND HAVE SOMETHING IN
THEIR STOMACH AND NOT ENDANGER
LIVES ON THE ROAD. NOT COMING
INTO MY COMMUNITY YOU KNOW
INTOXICATED BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT
YOU KNOW UNFORTUNATELY NO. SOME
OF THAT STUFF IS GONNA HAPPEN
JUST LIKE IT DOES AT BARS AB. SO
I'M KIND OF LEANING TOWARDS
SUPPORT IN THIS RIGHT NOW- YOU
KNOW I DID ACTUALLY IN THIS
COMMITTEE AYE OPPOSED A SIMILAR
MEASURE AND THEN WHEN I GOT ON
TO THE FLOOR AND IT UP
SUPPORTING IT BECAUSE I REALLY
THOUGHT. TWICE ABOUT THAT.
SITUATION WHERE PEOPLE ARE GOING
TO LEAVE IT- INTOXICATED I AM
VERY INTERESTED IN MORE
INFORMATION ON THE DIFFERENCES
BETWEEN. YOU KNOW CANNABIS SMOKE
IN OUR HAND CIGARETTE SMOKE FOR
SURE I MEAN I TO YOU NOW THE
STATE'S GOT IT'S AGAINST PUBLIC
POLICY TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO
SMOKE CIGARETTES BECAUSE WE KNOW
- YOU KNOW OR YOU KNOW STUDY SAY
THE VIA FAX IT BACK AND HAVE.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE
SAME CASE WITH CANNABIS OR NOT
BUT I THINK THAT'S SORT OF A
SEPARATE DISCUSSION ASIDE FROM
THIS BILL ALSO. MENTIONS THAT
MORE DISCUSSION ASK OUR MOLINA
RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU THE U. S.
SENATE MEMBER DR BAINES. I'VE
HEARD A LOT OF RIDICULOUS
COMMENTS BEING MADE AND THAT'S A
DOCTOR I WANT TO MAKE ONE THING
CLEAR. SMOKING IS SMOKING AND IT
IS HARMFUL TO FOR TO YOUR HEALTH
WHETHER IT'S MARIJUANA OR
TOBACCO SMOKING IS SMOKING AND
IT IS HARMFUL TO YOUR HEALTH-
AND I HAVE A BIG CONCERN. THE
TOP THREE KILLERS IN AMERICA ARE
HEART DISEASE CANCER AND LUNG
DISEASE ANY OF ALL THREE
ASSOCIATIONS OPPOSED TO THIS
BILL THERE'S SOMETHING WE'RE
MISSING HERE I'M ABSOLUTELY
OPPOSE THIS BILL. THE U.
DOCUMENTS. ANY ADDITIONAL
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS I KNOW OF
IS ONE OF THOSE GOING TO HAVE A
COMMENT LET ME JUST ASK A QUICK
QUESTION A MISSILE LAUNCH OFFICE
RIGHT BEFORE. SENATOR- YOU CAN
DIE I BELIEVE I HEARD YOU SAY
YOU'RE NOT TRYING TO CREATE
RESTAURANTS. THAT ALLOW.
CANNABIS SMOKING CAN YOU EXPLAIN
A LITTLE BIT HOW. HOW THIS
DOESN'T DO THAT BECAUSE IT SEEMS
TO ME LIKE IT IT IT DOES I MEAN
IF YOU GOT A KITCHEN IN THE BACK
AND THERE. COOKIN PUB FOOD. AND
THE PROVIDING THAT TO THEIR
PATRONS CAN CAN YOU JUST HELP ME
EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT HOW THAT'S
- NOT A RESTAURANT OR THIS IS
SOMETHING THAT YOU SHOULD
CONSIDER YOU KNOW. MOVING FOR
THE SO I THINK CENTER PATTERSON
DID A GREAT JOB OF EXPLAINING-
BUT I THINK WALKING THROUGH SOME
OF THAT THE CHECK THE TIME THE
CHALLENGES HERE WE HAVE FOR
BETTER FOR WORSE. AUTHORIZED
CITIES TO AUTHORIZE THESE
CONSUMPTION LOUNGES. THAT'S IN
THE LAW THEY'RE HAPPENING RIGHT
NOW. ARE THERE VERY STRICT RULES
ASSOCIATED WITH THE CREATION AND
THE IMPLEMENTATION AND
MANAGEMENT OF THESE. LOUNGES I'M
CERTAINLY FOLKS WANT TO TAKE A
LOOK AT THAT SECTION OF CODE AND
WORK CONTINUE TO WORK IN THAT
SPACE OBVIOUSLY EVERYONE'S
WELCOME TO DO SO. I'M WE ARE WE
NEAR THE DATE FOOD IS ALLOWED TO
BE SOLD THERE- BUT I THINK IN
PART WHAT BROUGHT ME TO THIS
STORY WAS MUCH OF WHAT'S A
SUMMER PATTERSON WAS WAS RAISING
WAS THAT ANY OTHER DAY OF PEOPLE
COMING ON. AND USING THESE KIND
OF SITES YOU WANT THEM TO HAVE
THE OPTION OF IT YOU WANT TO
ACTUALLY HAVE A MEETING- IT'S
ONLY IT'S SAFER FOR EVERYBODY. I
THINK SOMETHING THAT BUT LIKE
WHAT THE CELL NUMBER DIXON
BROUGHT UP MAKING IT VERY CLEAR
THAT THAT YOU CAN'T. YOU CAN'T
TURN AROUND AND TRY TO RETELL
YOUR FOOD AND USE DOORDASH TO
SELL YOUR FOOD ELSEWHERE AT YEAH
THAT WOULD BE A GOOD EXAMPLE I
I'M I'M CERTAINLY. VERY OPEN. TO
TO TAKING SOME ADDITIONAL
SUGGESTIONS LIKE LIKE YOURS
ASSEMBLY MEMBER. THAT WOULD
MAKE. NOT ONLY THE COMMITTEE BUT
ME FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE THAT
WE'RE NOT OPENING IT WITH WE'RE
NOT CREATING SLIPPERY SLOPE
TOWARD RESTAURANTS. I MEAN I
WILL SAY THAT THE CODE IS THIS
IS VERY. IT IS VERY PARTICULAR
AND IT'S ALL ABOUT THE CREATION
THESE LOUNGES AND THAT'S WHERE
THIS THAT'S WHERE THE START
THAT'S THE SPACE OF COLD WAR.
I'M SO I MEAN IT IN THE END OF
THE DAY THIS IS A BALLOT- THIS
IS A- OF. OF- OF COST BENEFIT
ANALYSIS I THINK THAT THE
BENEFITS- YOU KNOW- OUTWEIGH THE
CONCERNS AND NEGATIVES
ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PARTICULAR
BILL. BUT LOOK I WAS THINKING
JUST TODAY I MEAN I ON THE ONE
HAND. OBVIOUSLY I DON'T LOVE TO
HAVE OPPOSITION TO A BILL BUT I
BUT- YOU KNOW AND ESPECIALLY
WHEN. BUT WHEN IT'S SO HARD FOR
US TO COME TO ANY AGREEMENT
BECAUSE YOU HAVE SUCH A
FUNDAMENTAL DISAGREEMENT WITH
ANYTHING INVOLVING SMOKING WHICH
I RESPECT I THINK IS IMPORTANT
FOR US TO GRAPPLE WITH- I DO
THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO
COME IN AND OPPOSE BILLS LIKE
THIS NOT BECAUSE I WANT. I DON'T
SEE THE BILL PASSED TODAY
BECAUSE I'VE WON I DO WANT TO BE
HARD. FOR US TO TRY TO EXPAND.
ACCESS TO THESE KINDS OF
SERVICES WHEN THERE ARE SO MANY
HEALTH IMPLICATIONS. ARE I DO
THINK THAT YOU KNOW IF UNDER THE
CURRENT CIRCUMSTANCES. IF WE'RE
GOING TO HAVE THESE THINGS OPEN.
WE OUGHT TO HAVE FOOD THE RESULT
IT BUT BUT TO BE CLEAR THAT.
THEY CAN BUY FOOD CURRENTLY YOU
CAN GET PER PACKAGE FOOD.
PACKAGE AND YOU CAN ORDER IN
FOOD FROM THE OUTSIDE YES VIA
DELIVERY SERVICE SO IT'S
IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THAT YOU
CAN CURRENTLY EAT FOOD. THAT'S
TRUE IN THE CONSUMPTION
LANCASTER. YEAH SO JUST WANNA
MAKE SURE THAT IF I DON'T ANSWER
THAT YES RIGHT. CAP THAT'S UP
HERE. I'M BUT BUT I DO THINK
THEY DO SOMETHING LIKE WHAT SOME
OF. HAS WOULD BE GOOD IN TERMS
OF REALLY CREATING. THAT THAT
VERY CLEAR DISTINCTION. BUT M.
O. TO OTHER TO. CAL THANK YOU SO
. MR LOW. THIS ALONE FATHER.
MISTER OVER. HAS SOME FOLLOW.
YEAH ARE FIRST FOR JUST ONE
STATE. YOU KNOW I HAVE TRULY
UNDER. ON THIS AND IN TO THE IRA
MY STEP. WHO YOU KNOW WANTED
MORE CLEAR ANSWER GOING INTO
THIS HEARING I REALLY WANT TO
HEAR THE TESTIMONY- THIS IS A
TOUGH ONE. VERY VERY TOUGH ONE.
IN REGARDS TO THE SLIPPERY SLOPE
OF A RESTAURANT IN THE
RESTAURANT OWNER I HAVE ZERO
CONCERN ABOUT THIS AT ALL. OF
THE BILL IS WRITTEN SO THAT
LOCAL JURISDICTIONS CAN MAKE
THOSE DETERMINATIONS OF COURSE
IT'S GOING TO BE A RESTAURANT.
THESE ARE GOING TO BE
RESTAURANTS. THEY CAN BE
SUBJECTED TO THE HEALTH
DEPARTMENT CODES. TO INSPECTIONS
TO ALL OTHER THINGS ASSOCIATED
WITH THE LICENSING OF
RESTAURANTS ON A LOCAL LEVEL.
OUT WHENEVER YOU'RE SERVING
FOOD. THAT IS GOING TO AND
PREPARING FOOD THAT IS GOING TO
BE THE SITUATION. SO I BUT I
PERSONALLY DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES
WITH THAT WHATSOEVER. AND MY
COLLEAGUE FROM ROCKLIN I THINK.
YOU KNOW POINTING OUT THAT. THAT
FOOD DOES GO WITH CANNABIS. READ
GOES WITH CANNABIS EVERYBODY. I
DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY. A
SURPRISE ABOUT THAT WHATSOEVER
IN THIS MATTER FACT MY COLLEAGUE
FROM KERN COUNTY. WHO MADE VERY
VERY APPROPRIATE. SOBERING
COMMENTS ABOUT SMOKE WHICH I
APPRECIATE SO MUCH THAT SHE DID.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADD OF
COURSE. THAT THERE AND THAT
CANNABIS CAN BE PRESCRIBED TO
PATIENTS WHO NEED TO INCREASE
THEIR APPETITE AS A MATTER OF
FACT. MAY BE SUFFERING FROM
CANCER. OR OTHER DISEASE. AND WE
SHOULD RECOGNIZE. THAT AS WELL I
. VERY MUCH SO. THE IDEA OF
HAVING CONSUMPTION SITES I VERY
MUCH SUPPORT THE IDEA. OF
SUPPORTING THE CANNABIS INDUSTRY
THE LEGAL CANNABIS INDUSTRY IN
THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA THE
LARGEST CASH CROP WE HAVE IN OUR
STATE. AND THE POTENTIAL FOR
HUGE ECONOMIC GROWTH ESPECIALLY
AS THE FEDERAL LAWS RELAX. WE
HAVE THE ABILITY TO EXPORT AND
SO FORTH. AND I THINK IT'S
VITALLY IMPORTANT. THAT WE
RECOGNIZE SAFE. CONSUMPTION
SITES. ARE ARE A BENEFIT. AND
NOT A BAD THING. BUT THE ONE
THING THAT WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE
WE'RE HOLDING BACK ON IS WHAT
THE OPPOSITION HAS COME HERE TO
TESTIFY FOR. THIS IS ABOUT
WORKER SAFETY. IT'S NOT ABOUT
FOR ME IT'S NOT ABOUT
RESTAURANTS AND A SLIPPERY SLOPE
WITH RESTAURANTS AND IMPEDING ON
THE BUSINESS OF RESTAURANTS.
IT'S ABOUT THE WORKERS. WHO NEED
TO BE THERE TO PREPARE FOOD THE
COOKS THE SERVERS THE CLEANERS
THE PEOPLE WHO ARE WHO ARE DOING
ALL OF THE THINGS. TO ABIDE BY
THOSE I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE
AUTHOR IN THE OPPOSITION. TO
WORK TOGETHER. TO TRY AND FIND
WAYS THAT WE CAN MEASURE. THAT
SAFETY THE REASON I SAY THAT IS
BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH MY COLLEAGUE
FROM KERN COUNTY DID SAY SMOKERS
SMOKERS SMOKE. AS A BAR AND
RESTAURANT OWNER THAT WENT
THROUGH THE PROCESS OF GETTING
RID OF CIGARETTE SMOKE. IN OUR
PLACES IT'S NOT THE SAME. THE
WAY THAT THE CIGARETTE IS SMOKED
CIGARS SMOKED VERSUS THE WAY
THAT CANNABIS IS DIFFERENT. YOU
DON'T SIT AND SMOKE A PACK. OF
CANNABIS CIGARETTES. YOU KNOW IN
A MATTER OF HOURS THE WAY THAT
YOU WOULD WITH CIGARETTES YOU
DON'T WITH CIGARS THE SAME WAY
YOU COULD BE IN A IN A CANNABIS
LOUNGES YOU NOTED. AND THEN JUST
THE CANNABIS OR VAPE THE
CANNABIS WHICH MAY BE COMPLETELY
DIFFERENT. WHAT I'M SITTING HERE
YOU KNOW STRUGGLING WITH IS A
LACK OF DATA. AND A LACK OF
ABILITY TO MEASURE THESE THINGS
. AND I THINK THAT THE COMMENTS
OF THE OPPOSITION ARE VITALLY
IMPORT WE CAN'T ALLOW FOR
WORKPLACES EVEN IF SOMEBODY
CHOOSES TO WORK THERE. AND
CHOOSE TO WORK IN A COAL MINE.
YOU CAN CHOOSE TO WORK IN A LOT
OF PLACES IT'S OUR
RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT
WORKERS ARE SAFE. BUT THERE IS
NO ATTEMPT HERE AT ALL TO TRY
AND MEASURE WHAT ACTUALLY IS
SAFE AND WHAT'S NOT. WHERE IS
THE LINE. WHY ARE WE DECIDED
WHAT THAT LINE IS AND THEN
TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE DO
FROM THERE. IT'S VERY BLACK AND
WHITE I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD
BE. THAT'S MY COMMENT I'VE I
WOULD LIKE TO SUPPORT THE BILL
TODAY VOTE FOR TODAY AND HIGHLY
ENCOURAGE BOTH SIDES. TO WORK ON
THIS ISSUE TOGETHER. AND TRY TO
COME UP WITH A SYSTEM WERE
MEASURING. AND IF WE CROSS THE
LINE THAT WE'VE DETERMINED
TOGETHER. WE STOP IT. BECAUSE
WORKER SAFETY IS THE MOST
IMPORTANT THING HERE FOR ME. BUT
I IN IF WE CAN ACHIEVE WORKER
SAFETY SOME WORKERS SAFETY HERE.
YOU KNOW THEN THEN THAT'S A
REASON TO HAVE THIS FOR ME. I'M
SORRY IF I MAY IF IT'S HELPFUL
TO YOU WE ACTUALLY HAVE STARTED
THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH WITH
FOLKS OF USC W. TO TALK ABOUT
THIS VERY ISSUE- AND THAT'S ONE
QUESTION I MEAN. DO YOU KNOW HOW
HOW DO WE- LET'S SAY FOR THE
FOOD PREPARES HOW DO YOU
MAINTAIN A CERTAIN DISTANCE OR-
CERTAIN SET OF STANDARDS TO.
ENSURE THAT THEY'RE NOT. HAVING
ACCESS TO THE SMOKE- I MEAN THE
- YEAH. SO THAT THAT'S SOMETHING
WHERE WE'RE ENGAGING
CONVERSATION I CERTAINLY WOULD
LOVE SUGGESTIONS I YOU KNOW EVEN
EVEN AS AS OPPOSITION WOULD
WOULD OBVIOUSLY VERY VERY
UNLIKELY TO EVER SUPPORT THE
BILL OR EVEN COME OFF
OPPOSITION. AND CERTAINLY WERE
OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS THAT TO
ADDRESS THE WORKER SAFETY ISSUES
FOR THE PREPARES I THINK FOR THE
FOLKS THAT ARE WALKING AROUND AS
PART OF THEIR JOB. THAT'S
TRICKIER REAGAN THESE FOLKS THAT
HAVE CHOSEN TO WORK IT OF
CANNABIS. CONSUMPTION LOUNGE
AND- I'M BUT W. AND THEN WE GOT
TO BE LOOKING AT YOU KNOW WE GOT
TO BE LOOKING AT THE DATA. ARE
SO WE CAN TAKE REASONABLE
MITIGATION MEASURES TO ENSURE
WE'RE PROTECTING THEIR SELL
THEIR HOUSE AND- REASONABLE WAY
TO AND- AND I THINK ARE THE
CHALLENGES. I MEAN TO DEFEND
THEM RIGHT AYE THIS IS A NEW
EXPERIMENT MANY RESPECTS AND WE
DO NEED MORE SCIENTIFIC. STUDY I
AND I'M SURE PART OF THE
CHALLENGES THERE'S NOT ENOUGH
RESEARCH. IN GENERAL ON THIS
TOPIC. I'M AND SO YOU HAVE AN
EXTRAPOLATE FROM A LOT OF
TOBACCO. RELATED RESEARCH WHICH
OF COURSE IS. THANK YOU. NUMBER
ALVAREZ. ABSURD YEP FORMER OVER
AS- THANK YOU OUT AND I JUST
WANNA SAY I YOU KNOW I'M ASKING
A LOT OF QUESTIONS BECAUSE I'M
NOT FAMILIAR WITH. THE
RESTAURANT INDUSTRY. I'M
DEFINITELY NOT A- MEDIC
PROFESSIONAL OR SOMEONE WHO
UNDERSTANDS- ISSUES RELATED TO
SMOKE- BUT IT BUT I DO. OF
RECOGNIZE THAT- SOME SMOKE AND
IN EVEN IF. RECALL READING
STORIES ABOUT- LIKE BARBECUE
SMOKING HOW LONG EXPOSURE TO
THAT COULD ALSO CAUSE
RESPIRATORY ISSUES AND- YEAH AND
IS LINKED TO THINGS LIKE CANCER
AND SO I THINK. THERE'S
SOMETHING TO BE SAID ABOUT
ATTEMPTING TO PROTECT. WORKERS
WHICH I THINK- BY I RECOGNIZE AS
WELL- I JUST WANT TO MAKE THE
COMMENT THAT- BEING CONSISTENT
WITH- AS THEY ATTEMPT TO ALWAYS
BE WITH- MR HANEY'S BILL WHICH
IS VERY SIMILAR TO YOUR BILL- A
DICK ACTUALLY GOES A LITTLE BIT.
OR A LITTLE BIT FURTHER THAN
YOUR BILL- I IT'S A BIBLE I WILL
SUPPORT THIS TODAY- BUT I ALSO
WOULD APPRECIATE AND I'LL SHARE
THE SAME WITH MY COLLEAGUE-
MISTER HANEY. MORE INFORMATION
ABOUT. HOW CAN BE BAD IT'S VERY
CLEAR SENATOR YOU AND KNOWING-
MY COLLEAGUE- YOU'RE INTENDING
TO DO THIS THE BEST WAY POSSIBLE
AND SO. FOR ME IT SAID CAN WE
GET MORE INFORMATION ABOUT- A-
THE EXPOSURE TO WORKERS I THINK
WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL GOING
FORWARD- AND- YOU KNOW MAYBE ON
THE ISSUE OF THESE. ARE GOING TO
BECOME RESTAURANTS- MAYBE
THERE'S AN ISSUE OF THE
PERCENTAGE OF SALES- SO THAT AND
YOU KNOW- IT'S- DOMINANTLY A-
LOUNGE WHICH I ASSUME. NOT BEING
A CONSUMER OF THAT EITHER I
ASSUME THAT'S WHERE THE MONEY TO
BE MADE- SO I DON'T KNOW WHY
ANYBODY WOULD. SELL MORE FOOD
THAN THAN CANNABIS BUT YOU KNOW
I DON'T KNOW MAYBE IT SOME AS A
FROM A LOCAL PERSPECTIVE ASSUMES
BEEN- AND LOCAL OFFICE THAT THE
THING THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR
LOCALS TO REALLY. UNDERSTAND
WHAT THIS WOULD MEAN TO THEM IF
THEY WERE TO ALLOW IT AND THEN
THE LAST THING I'LL SAY WHICH IS
NOT REALLY- IN YOUR BILL BUT
RELATED JUST GENERALLY IS IF.
ANYONE WHO IS ENGAGED IN ASSIST
OF THIS WITH OUR PREVIOUS BILLS
RELATED TO CABINET CANNABIS. BUT
WITH- ACTIVITY THAT SOLICITOR
BLACK MARKET I THINK- WE ALSO
NEED TO IDENTIFY- MORE PENALTIES
AND STRICTER RULES ABOUT LOSING
LICENSES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AGAIN NOTHING VERY SPECIFIC TO
YOUR BILL BUT IT'S REALLY
SOMETHING I THINK WE NEED TO
ADDRESS WE TALK ABOUT OTHER
ISSUES BUT- AGAIN TO BE
CONSISTENT YOU KNOW- I DIDN'T
HAVE A CHANCE. OFTENTIMES WERE
PRESENTING BILL SOMEWHERE ELSE
WHEN BILLS ARE AND COMMITTEES.
TO HAVE THIS KIND OF A
DISCUSSION- WITH MR HANEY'S BILL
BUT I THINK I LOOK AT BOTH BILLS
THE SAME WAY AND FOR THAT REASON
I MOVE. OVER HASN'T BEEN MOVED A
CARRIAGE THE WORK TO CONTINUE
AND- LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING
BACK FROM YOU ALL. THANK YOU.
THESE. HONORED DR BENSE. YEAH I
JUST WANTED TO DO SOME MORE
COMMENTS FOR ME- LET ME GO LET
LET ME TRY EDUCATE YOU GUYS ON-
USE MY MEDICAL EXPERTISE CAN YOU
HAVE. A ROOM FULL OF MEDICAL
EXPERTS THAT ARE CONCERNED WITH
THAT SO LET ME EXPLAIN THIS TO
YOU WHAT HAPPENS WHEN A PERSON
SMOKES. PERSON SMOKES THERE'S
DAMAGE THAT HAPPENS TO THE
LINING OF THE LUNGS WHEN THERE'S
DAMAGE TO HAPPEN SO LINING THE
LUNGS CELLS REPLICATE IN THAT
PROCESS THAT CELLS REPLICATE THE
OFTEN LOOSE. AND CREATE THIS
CANCEROUS TYPE OF AFFECT ON THE
LUNGS THAT IS WHAT WE'RE
EXPERIENCING IT'S THE INSULT OF
THE ACT OF SMOKING REGARDLESS OF
WHAT IT IS THAT YOU'RE SMOKING.
THAT IS CAUSING THESE HIGH RATES
OF CANCER IN OUR COMMUNITY SAME
THING WITH HEART DISEASE IT
CREATES INSULT ON THE INDULT WE
WERE JUST DISCUSSING THIS THE
DOCTORS JUST DISCUSSING THIS. IT
CREATES IN SEOUL ON THE
ENDOTHELIAL LINING OF THE BLOOD
VESSELS WHEN THAT HAPPENS
PLAQUES GET THE PLATELETS AND
PLAQUE IT'S ATTACHED TO THAT SO
THEN YOU HAVE A THROMBUS. THAT
CREATES A HEART ATTACK SO
REGARDLESS THERE IS AN INSULT
THAT HAPPENS SO REGARDLESS OF
WHERE EVERYONE IS OUT WITH THE
BILL THAT'S FINE BUT DON'T MAKE
COMMENTS THAT THERE ARE TYPES OF
SMOKING THAT ARE HEALTHY AND
TYPES OF SMOKING THAT ARE NOT
HEALTHY. I WANT TO MAKE IT VERY
CLEAR SMOKING. IS NOT HEALTHY
THANK YOU. THE U. DR BENJAMIN
BONTA. JUST APPRECIATE THOSE
COMMENTS AND ALSO JUST WANT TO
RE CENTER US AROUND. THIS
PARTICULAR BILL CANNABIS LOUNGES
EXIST. THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN
SOMETHING THAT WE'VE
STATUTORILY. INDICATED ARE
ALLOWED TO EXIST IN THIS IN THIS
STATE OF CALIFORNIA REGARDLESS
OF. HOW WE FEEL ABOUT THE IMPACT
ON. ON OUR LUNGS AB. MAYBE A
DIFFERENT BILL SEPARATE ISSUE.
HAPPY TO BRING THAT UP THE-
OTHERS TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT BUT
I DID WANT TO JUST. MAKE SURE
THAT SENATOR ALAN YOU HAVE AN
OPPORTUNITY TO. REFOCUS OUR
ENERGY AROUND THE INTENT OF THIS
BILL BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY DIDN'T
GET TO HEAR- MORE ABOUT. WHY YOU
WANTED HE DID TALK A LITTLE BIT
ABOUT WHY YOU WANTED TO DO THIS
BILL BUT- THIS WANTED TO GET US.
REFOCUSED THANK YOU ASSEMBLY
MEMBER. ANY- ALSO SENATOR SAID
AT FIRST CLOSE- ANY ADDITIONAL
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. AS
PERFECT AS TIME VERY CLOSE. I
AROUND I REALLY I REALLY I
GENUINELY APPRECIATE THAT THE
ROBUST DISCUSSION WE HAD I MEAN
I THINK A LOT OF ISSUES HAVE
BEEN RAISED- AND YOU KNOW
OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A LOT OF
CONCERN ABOUT. NEARLY EVERY
ASPECT OF- THE IMPLEMENTATION OF
FIVE OF LEGALIZED CANNABIS IN
THE STATE AND THOSE ARE ALL
LEGITIMATE CONVERSATIONS TO HAVE
AND I ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONTINUE
TO HAVE THEM HERE IN THIS
COMMITTEE ELSEWHERE. I'M AS
HOWEVER SAID THIS BILL IS
FOCUSED ON ONE VERY PARTICULAR
ASPECT OF THE CURRENT.
UTILIZATION CANNABIS STATUS
THESE CANNABIS CONSUMPTION ON
TWITTER ARE EXPLICITLY
AUTHORIZED UNDER A TWO IN
SECTION TWENTY SIX TWO HUNDRED
G. OF THE BUSINESS PROFESSIONS
CODE ALLOWING A LOCAL
JURISDICTION TO AUTHORIZE THESE.
THESE THESE LOUNGES ARE AND NOW
UNDER THIS BILL WE WOULD
AUTHORIZE THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT
TO. ALLOW FOR A FRESH FOOD TO BE
TO BE SERVED IN THOSE
JURISDICTIONS AT ALL AT ALL THIS
BILL DOES- BUT I BET BUT I WILL
SAY. IT'S GOOD FOR US TO HAVE A
HARD CONVERSATION EVEN WHEN S.
B. A RELATIVELY SMALL SIMPLE
SURGICAL BILL COMES UP. BECAUSE
OF ALL THE BIG PICTURE ISSUES
THAT ARE AT PLAY. AND YOU KNOW
AND I YOU DON'T WANT TO MAKE IT
TOO EASY TO HAVE. TO EXPAND THE
SCOPE OF THIS TYPE OF BUSINESS
BECAUSE OF ALL THE HEALTH ISSUES
THAT ARE THAT ARE LEGITIMATELY
RAISED BY THE OPPOSITION AND ARE
ARE CALLING. ON BUT I DO THANK
YOU FOR RECOGNIZING HOW. SMALL
AND SURGICAL THIS IS. OUR AND- I
DO CERTAINLY- I AM VERY
INTERESTED IN WORKING WITH
OPPOSITION MEMBERS THE COMMITTEE
OTHERS TO FIGURE OUT MORE WAYS
TO KEEP IT CONSTRAINT. I LIKE
THE IDEA OF A SUMMER DIXON
THERE'S ANOTHER BROUGHT THE
ISSUE RAISED WITH REGARDS TO
FOOD PREP AND THAT'S OUR ENGAGE
IN CONVERSATIONS WITH YOUR C. W.
BUT CERTAINLY OPEN A MORE
CONVERSATION AND SUGGESTIONS. ON
THAT BECAUSE I'M MORE ABOUT THE
WORKER SAFETY ISSUES AS WELL.
I'M THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING
HOW NAY THIS IS. AND IT'S AND
THAT'S- AND- AND COMMITTED TO
CONTINUE WORKING ON THESE TRICKY
DICEY ISSUES. ON THAT AFTER I
VOTE TODAY. THANK YOU THANK YOU
SENATOR- I THINK THERE'S A
DEBATE AS TO HOW THEY ARE OF
THIS BILL IS- YOU YOU YOU HEARD
FROM SOME COLLEAGUES I THINK
IT'S YOUR ASSERTION THAT THIS
BILL DOES NOT CREATE
RESTAURANTS. YOU'VE HEARD FROM
SOME COLLEAGUES WHO SAY WELL
THIS BILL OBVIOUSLY CREATES
RESTAURANTS- AND I THINK THAT'S
IT. SOMETHING THAT YOU NEED TO
REALLY THINK ABOUT- IF THIS BILL
MOVES FORWARD- BECAUSE- TO BE
HONEST I LEAN MORE TOWARDS MY
COLLEAGUES TO SAY OBVIOUSLY THIS
BILL CREATES RESTAURANTS- IF
YOU'RE COOKING FOOD. ONSITE AND
YOU'RE SERVING THAT FOOD TO YOUR
CUSTOMERS I DON'T KNOW HOW
THAT'S NOT A RESTAURANT- AND SO-
I MAYBE THE PERCENTAGE OF SALES
ISSUES WITH A STORAGE LOTS OF.
YEAH A LOT I MEAN LARA'S RUN
LOTS OF LOTS OF IMPORTANT THINGS
TO CONSIDER- AND I KNOW YOU KNOW
IT IS A MEMBER HANEY'S BILL HAS
BEEN BROUGHT UP- THE OPPOSITION.
WASN'T OPPOSED WHEN CENTER HE'S
BILL WAS HEARD IN BEING P. IT
OPPOSITION CAME OUT OF THE BILL
AFTER BEING PM BEFORE GEO- AND
SO WE DIDN'T HAVE THE BENEFIT
OF. SOME OF THAT INFORMATION-
AND SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT
WERE RAISED WHEN WE HEARD OF
SOMEONE RAINY SPELL INDIAN P.
AND SO THIS IS A BIT OF A
DIFFERENT CONVERSATION BECAUSE
WE'VE- GOT MORE INFORMATION
WHICH IS A PART OF THE
LEGISLATIVE PROCESS- SO. YOU
KNOW I THINK THAT A LOT OF
LEGITIMATE CONCERNS HAVE BEEN
RAISED TODAY I KNOW THAT YOU FOR
THEM WE'VE BEEN FRIENDS FOR A
VERY LONG TIME AND I. I KNOW HOW
SERIOUSLY YOU TAKE YOUR BILLS-
AND I KNOW THAT YOU'VE HEARD-
YOU KNOW THE CONCERNS THAT WERE
RAISED BY OPPOSITION AND BY. BY
MEMBERS- I'M GONNA SUPPORT THE
BILL TODAY- I ALSO HAVE THE
BENEFIT OF VOTING FOR WHEN AGAIN
WHEN IT COMES TO GEO- WHICH IS
WHERE WE'LL GO NEXT IF IT PASSES
OUT OF BMP AND- I KNOW THAT THE
SENATOR WILL. HAVE A LOT OF
CONVERSATIONS WITH THE
OPPOSITION AND PROBABLY WITHIN
COLLEAGUES- AND I'M HAPPY TO
HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS AS
WELL- IF THE IF. BILL MOVES ON.
AND I'LL FORWARD. SOME SOME
IMPROVEMENTS- BEFORE THE BILL
GETS TO GEO- BUT I THINK A LOT
OF REALLY IMPORTANT POINTS HAVE
BEEN RAISED ON ALL SIDES- TODAY.
THAT SHOULD SHOULD GO INTO THE
CONSIDERATION OF THE POLICY. AS
THE BILL MOVES FORWARD SO I'M
HAPPY TO. SUPPORT THE BILL AND
HAVE AN I RECOMMENDATION TODAY
BUT WE NEED A SECOND. SO I'VE
GOT A MOTION BY THE MEMBER
ALVAREZ A SECOND BISOLA MEMBER
LOWENTHAL- MADAM SECRETARY
PLEASE CALL VOTE. SB TWO EIGHTY
FIVE ALAN THE MOTION IS DUE
PASSED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
GOVERNMENTAL ORGANIZATION
BERMAN. BERMAN HI FLORA. ALANIZ
ALANIZ I ALVAREZ. ALVAREZ I
PAINS. PAINS NO BONTA. AYE BONTA
AYE CHAN. CHAN I DIXON. DIXON NO
GIPSON. GRAYSON GRAYSON I IRWIN
. IRWIN NOT VOTING JACKSON.
JACKSON I LEE. WE I LOWENTHAL.
LOWENTHAL AYE MCCARTY MCCARTY I
AM A KENNER. WHEN I PATTERSON.
PATTERSON I TANK. THAT BILL IS
OUT I WISH EVERYONE LUCK ON
FUTURE CONVERSATIONS THANK YOU
MEMBERS THANK YOU VERY MUCH
THANK YOU. SO NOW WE NEED A
SENATOR WE HAVE A SENATOR CENTER
OR DOES HE- GOOD TO SEE YOU
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE SIR.
PRESENTING AGENDA ITEM NUMBER
NINE SB SIX SIX NINE.
READY WHEN YOU ARE CENTER OR A
DOES. THANK YOU MR CHAIRMAN
MEMBERS- THIS MAY BE A LITTLE
LESS. THE DEBATE. BUT SOMETIMES
IS A FAMOUS LAST WORDS RIGHT- I
DO WANNA THANK OF THE CHAIR AND
STAFF FOR WORKING WITH US ON THE
BILL IN THE PERSON ONE SAYS I
WILL BE ACCEPTING OF THE
COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS- YES- IS
VERY SIMPLE IS THE BILL- LOOKS.
AT TIMES- EVEN WHEN I LOOK AT
IT- WE DID HAVE TO DO A LOT OF
WORK TO TRY TO FIND THE SPOT
WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW SO AGAIN I DO
APPRECIATE IT- THE BILL
REPRESENTS THE MUTUAL GOAL OF
THE CALIFORNIA VETERINARY
MEDICAL ASSOCIATION AND THE
REGISTERED VETERINARY TECHNICIAN
ASSOCIATION. SO IN ONE SENSE IN
THIS RARE THAT WE SEE TWO
PROFESSIONAL GROUPS OF WHO COULD
EASILY APPEAR BEFORE YOU- WITH
DIFFERENT VIEWS OF HOW TO SOLVE
A PROBLEM- BUT THE JOINTLY AS
FOR YOUR SUPPORT IN ADDRESSING
AN IMPENDING CRISIS AND SOME
WOULD ARGUE IT'S AN EXISTING
CRISIS- GIVING GIVEN THE ACTUAL
NUMBERS WERE LOOKING AT- RIGHT
NOW. THIS AGREEMENT SPEAKS THE
COMMONSENSE NATURE OF THIS
CRITICALLY IMPORTANT PIECE OF
LEGISLATION. AND THE CONCEPT OF
REALLY IS PRETTY SIMPLE GIVES
VETERINARIANS PERMISSION TO LET
THE REGISTERED VETERINARY
TECHNICIANS OTHERWISE KNOWN AS
RB TEAS. TO ADMINISTER CERTAIN
VACCINES MEDICATIONS
SPECIFICALLY THE RBT WOULD BE
ALLOWED TO ESTABLISH A%
VETERINARIAN CLIENT PATIENT
RELATIONSHIP. BUT FOR THOSE
LIMITED. SINCE ONLY THE BENEFITS
ARE TWO FOLD. THE TECHNICIAN
WOULD BE ABLE TO GO OUT INTO THE
COMMUNITY AND A MINISTER THE
PERMITTED TREATMENTS TO ANIMALS.
INCLUDING ANIMALS OF THE UNDER
REPRESENTED. IN THE IN HOUSE. IT
ALSO WOULD ALLOW TECHNICIAN
ESTABLISH RELATIONSHIP IN A
CLINICAL SETTING. CRUCIALLY THIS
CHANGE IN THE CLINICAL SETTING
WILL LOWER THE COST OF GETTING
YOUR ANIMAL VACCINATED AS WELL
AS ALLOW VETERINARIANS TO DO
MORE COMPLICATED PROCEDURES.
FREEING THEM UP IN OTHER WORDS.
THE NEED FOR THIS BILL IS
PRESSING. DUE TO COMPETITION FOR
VETERINARIANS IN THE
ACCOMPANYING INCREASE IN
SALARIES NONPROFITS ACROSS THE
STATE HAVE BEEN FORCED. TO
CURTAIL OR CLOSE THEIR LOW OR NO
COST VACCINE CLINICS DUE TO A
LACK OF THAT MARION'S. SO CRISIS
IS THREATENING A PUBLIC HEALTH
AND SAFETY. OF UNVACCINATED PETS
IN CALIFORNIA OUR PETS THAT ARE
AT RISK OF CATCHING IN
TRANSMITTING RABIES. AND PARVO
VIRUS. SB SIX SIXTY NINE WILL
HELP SOLVE THIS PROBLEM I DO
HAVE- WITNESSES SO. AVAILABLE TO
TESTIFY- AT YOUR DISCRETION
MISTER CHAIR AND I WOULD TURN IT
OVER TO THEM IN THE PROPER TIME
I RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR AGO
THANK YOU CENTER AND ADD TO IT
TWO MINUTES PER A PRIMARY
WITNESS IN SUPPORT. OF. MAYBE
HIT THE BUTTON BELOW NOW IT'S ON
NOW IT'S ON VIDEO. I THANK YOU
MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS MY NAME IS
DR GRANT MILLER I'M A
VETERINARIAN AND THE CALIFORNIA
VETERINARY MEDICAL ASSOCIATION'S
DIRECTOR OF REGULATORY AFFAIRS.
I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR
TIME AND CONSIDERATION OF SB SIX
SIX NINE TODAY WITH ADDITIONAL
THANKS TO SENATOR CORTESE. FOR
CHAMPING CHAMPING THE IMPORTANT
CAUSES SET FORTH IN THE MEASURE
OF THE CMA DOES HAVE A SUPPORT
POSITION ON THIS BILL AND FEELS
THAT IT SETS A PROGRESSIVE
NATIONAL PRECEDENT. THAT WILL
HELP ANIMAL OWNERS ACCESS NEEDED
VETERINARY CARE FOR THEIR PETS.
ACCESS TO VETERINARY CARE IS A
NATIONAL ISSUE. THAT STEMS
LARGELY FROM SURVEYS THAT SHOW
THAT ONE OUT OF EVERY FOUR PET
OWNING HOUSEHOLDS CANNOT. AFFORD
EVEN THE MOST BASIC CARE FOR
THEIR ANIMALS AND BY BASIC KERR
WE MEAN VACCINATIONS PARASITE
CONTROL. AND A SICK ANIMAL CARE.
STUDIES ALSO SHOW UNEQUIVOCAL
UNEQUIVOCALLY THAT THE HEALTH OF
THE FAMILY PETS IS LINKED TO THE
FAMILY ITSELF. AND THEREFORE
ENSURING THAT PETS ARE
VACCINATED. AND PROVIDED PARRIS
AYE CONTROL MEDICATION CAN
EQUATE TO IMPROVE PUBLIC HEALTH.
SB SIX SIX AND I WILL HELP TO
ADDRESS ACCESS TO VETERINARY
CARE AND IMPROVE PUBLIC HEALTH
BY EXPANDING THE USE OF OUR V.
T. IS AS THE SENATOR MENTIONED.
THIS BILL WERE PERMIT
VETERINARIANS TO AUTHORIZE RV
TEAS TO ACT AS AN AGENT ON THE
VETERINARIANS BEHALF FOR THE
SPECIFIC PURPOSES OF PROVIDING
VACCINATIONS AND PARASITE
CONTROL. WE VIEW THIS AS A
SOLUTION WHICH ALL ALL PARTIES
CAN BENEFIT. ESPECIALLY THE
ANIMALS. AGAIN THANK YOU TO THE
SENATOR OF TO ANIMAL SMITH- OF
THE COMMITTEE FOR WORKING ON THE
MOST RECENT AMENDMENTS. OF THIS
BILL WE RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR
AYE VOTE AND A SUPPORT BETTER
ACCESS TO VETERINARY CARE FOR
CALIFORNIA CONSUMERS. ALSO I
THINK WE HAVE THE SPONSOR OF THE
BILL HERE TODAY KENNEL TEAM. AND
HE PROBABLY HAS COMMENTS. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH THIS GROWTH IN.
YES THANK YOU OUR KENNEL TÍNH
CEO OF THE SACRAMENTO. WE
VACCINATE MORE THAN TWENTY
THOUSAND ANIMALS A YEAR WE
REALLY ARE THE LARGEST PROVIDER
OF LOW COST. VETERINARY KERR IN
NORTHERN CALIFORNIA. AND THE
IMPORTANT THING TO REMEMBER IS
EVERYONE AGREES THE VET MEDICAL
BOARD CALIFORNIA VETERINARY
MEDICAL ASSOCIATION CALIFORNIA
REGISTERED VETERINARY
TECHNICIANS ASSOCIATION. AGREED
THAT WE CAN AND SHOULD EXPAND
THE ROLES OF THESE RBT THEY ARE
TRAINED TO DO THIS THING AT MORE
THAN TWO YEARS OF TRAINING
ONGOING CERTIFICATION. AN
EXISTING CODES ALREADY. CHARGING
WITH ASSESSING THE COMPETENCIES
OF THESE REITS TO PERFORM THESE
TASKS INCLUDING VACCINATION. VMB
SPECIFIES THE LICENSE THAT CAN
DELEGATE THE ADMINISTRATION THE
RABIES VACCINE TO THE R. V. T.
THE CHALLENGE HAS BEEN SECTION
TWENTY THIRTY ONE POINT ONE.
WHICH REQUIRES THE-
ESTABLISHMENT OF THE
VETERINARIAN CLIENT PATIENT
RELATIONSHIP THE VCP OUR- AGAIN.
EVERYONE AGREES THAT RV KEYS
HAVE THE SKILLS TO CREATE THAT.
V. C. P. R. AND TO DO A
ADMINISTRATION OF LIMITED RANGE
OF PROPHYLACTIC VACCINES
INCLUDING RABIES VACCINES. R. M.
ONLY AFTER FOLLOWING THE
EXPLOSIVE WRITTEN ORDER AND
PROTOCOLS OF A LICENSED
VETERINARIAN. THAT IS ABSOLUTELY
CONSISTENT WITH FEDERAL LAW
REQUIRING WRITTEN OR AN ORAL
ORDER FROM VETERINARIAN FOR THE
ADMINISTRATION OF A CONTROLLED
DRUG. WE'RE NOT BREAKING NEW
GROUND HERE CALIFORNIA HAS
ALREADY CARVED OUT THREE
EXCEPTIONS THAT ALLOW RV
DESTROYED MINISTER CONTROLLED
DRUG WITHOUT A VETS ORDER OR OF
THAT'S PRESENCE. IN BOTH GET IN
ALL THREE OF THOSE CASES THE RV
KEYS ARE REQUIRED TO FOLLOW
ESTABLISHED WRITTEN PROTOCOLS SB
SIX SIX NINE IS CONSISTENT WITH
THIS CALLS FOR WRITTEN ORDERS
AND PROTOCOLS FOR ADMINISTERING
RABIES VACCINE. SO OUR RV TEAS
KNOW HOW TO IN A ADMINISTERED
THE RABIES VACCINE THEY'RE
TRAINED TO DO WHAT THEY'VE BEEN
DOING IT SAFELY FOR DECADES SO I
PLEASE ASK YOU TO VOTE YES ON SB
SIX X. THANK YOU VERY. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE
PRIMARY WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION
OR- OPPOSED UNLESS AMENDED OR-
SOME VARIATION OF THE SORT. GOOD
MORNING ME TERRY MEMBERS MY NAME
IS JUST CÁC FOR MEN AND THE
EXECUTIVE OFFICER OF THE
VETERINARY MEDICAL BOARD. THE
BOARD HAS AN OPPOSE UNLESS
AMENDED POSITION TO ON SB SIX
SIX NINE THE BOARD APPRECIATES
THE INTENT OF THE BILL AND THE
AUTHOR'S WILLINGNESS TO TAKE
SOME RIGHT REQUESTED AMENDMENTS.
FOR ONE ONE OF THE MOST CRUCIAL
ISSUES WITH THE BILL HAS NOT
BEEN ADDRESSED. THE BOARD IS
ESPECIALLY CONCERNED WITH
ENSURING COMPLIANCE WITH
CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE. LAW ONLY
VETERINARIANS CAN PRESCRIBE
TREATMENT TO ANIMAL PATIENTS
WITH INCLUDES THE CONTROLLED
SUBSTANCES AND DANGEROUS DRUGS.
THAT WOULD BE ADMINISTERED BY
OUR B. T.'S UNDER THE BILL. AS
CURRENTLY WRITTEN THE BILL WOULD
AUTHORIZE R. V. T. IS TO
ADMINISTER MEDICATIONS TO
ANIMALS WITHOUT EXAMINATION OR
THE REQUIRED PRESCRIPTION BY A
VETERINARIAN. NO MEDICATION CAN
BE ADMINISTERED IT IT FIRST.
WITHOUT IT FIRST BEING
PRESCRIBED THIS BILL WHEN IN
FACT AUTHORIZED RBT TO PRESCRIBE
MEDICATION AND DATE AND DRUGS TO
ANIMAL PATIENTS. AND RESULT IN
INCONSISTENCIES WITH OTHER
PROVISIONS OF THE VENDOR
MEDICINE PRACTICE ACT BUT ONLY
AUTHORIZED LICENSED
VETERINARIANS TO PRESCRIBE THE
DRUGS AND MEDICATIONS AND
SPECIFICALLY PROHIBIT. AN RBT
FROM DESCRIBING DRUGS AND
MEDICATION. THIS BILL WOULD
VIOLATE FEDERAL AND STATE
PRESCRIPTION LAWS. AND PUT THE
R. B. T. AT RISK OF PROFESSIONAL
DISCIPLINE CRIMINAL CONVICTION
AND CIVIL LITIGATION.
ACCORDINGLY THANK TO ENSURE
CONSISTENT WITH THE VETERINARY
MEDICINE PRACTICE ACT COMPLIANCE
WITH FEDERAL AND STATE LAW
ENSURE CONSUMER PROTECTION THE
BILL MUST INCLUDE THE
REQUIREMENT FOR VETERINARIANS TO
REVIEW DOCUMENTATION PRIOR TO
PRESCRIBING OR DISPENSING THANK
YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH ANY
ADDITIONAL WITNESSES WANT TO ADD
ON IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL. THANK
YOU MISTER CHAIRMAN ROBINSON WAS
SHAGARI WE SMELLS ARE LAYING ON
BEHALF OF THE HUMANE SOCIETY OF
THE UNITED STATES AND CAL
ANIMALS IN SUPPORT THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING MISTER CHAIR AND
COMMITTEE MEMBERS I'M BARBARA
SMITH HERE ON BEHALF OF THE SAN
FRANCISCO SPCA WE'RE IN SUPPORT.
AND WE WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE
EXTRA EFFORT IN TIME THAT THE
AUTHOR PUT INTO THIS BILL WE'RE
VERY APPRECIATIVE. OF HIS
COMMITMENT TO THE BILL WE THINK
THIS IS A REALLY CRITICAL BILL
THANK YOU THANK YOU. MY NAME IS
NANCY EHRLICH I'M AT THE
ADVOCATE FOR THE CALIFORNIA
REGISTERED VETERINARY
TECHNICIANS ASSOCIATION AND WE
STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS BILL AND
WE FEEL THAT THE PRACTICE ACT
ALREADY. ALLOWS RVT IS TO
ADMINISTER MEDICATIONS ACCORDING
TO PROTOCOL THANK YOU THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. THE ONE TIME I FORGET
TO DO THE REMINDER OF NAME
ORGANIZATION AND POSITION ON
BILL. ANYBODY I ANY POWER
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION TO THE
BILL. GARCIA RT BROWN AS ANY
ADDITIONAL WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION TO THE BILL WHO WANT
TO. ADD ON IN OPPOSITION SEEING
THAT BRING ABOUT A COLLEGE
QUESTIONS COMMENTS MOTION SECOND
. HAVE A MOTION. AS A MEMBER
JACKSON THE SECOND BEST NUMBER
LEE- ANY QUESTIONS COMMENTS
SEEING NONE CENTER WOULD YOU
LIKE TO CLOSE. THANK YOU AGAIN
MR CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS- WE DO
BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE STRONG
SUPERVISION LANGUAGE IN THE BILL
BUT WE AS WE HAVE ALL LONG WILL
CONTINUE TO ENTERTAIN- YOU KNOW
ANY COMPELLING RECOMMENDATION
TO. A TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON
THAT LANGUAGE IN WITHOUT A
RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR RIVAL
THANK YOU SENATOR AND THANK YOU
FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS IMPORTANT
ISSUE AND FOR ACCEPTING- THEY
THE RECOMMENDED AMENDMENT FROM.
A RECOMMENDED AMENDMENT FROM THE
VETERINARY FROM THE VETERINARY
MEDICAL BOARD REGARDING CLAIM
DISCLOSURE. I UNDERSTAND THE
BOARD SALAS CONCERNS WITH THE
BILL AND ENCOURAGE YOU TO
CONTINUE WORKING TOGETHER AND
APPRECIATE THE GOAL OF THIS
BILL. IN ITS INTENTIONS TO
REMOVE BARRIERS IN ORDER TO
ALLOW ACCESS TO VETERINARY CARE
FOR ALL AND HAVE A TO SUPPORT
THE BILL. THE DAY I'M SECRETARY
PLEASE CALL VOTE. SB SIX SIX
NINE CORTESE THE MOTION IS TO
PASS AS AMENDED TO THE COMMITTEE
ON APPROPRIATIONS BERMAN AYE
BERMAN I FLORA. FLORA I ALANIZ
HI ALANIZ I ALVAREZ. ALVAREZ I
BAINS. PAINS I BONTA AYE BONTA
AYE CHAN. CHAN I DIXON. DIXON I
GIPSON. GRAYSON GRAYSON I IRWIN.
IRWIN I JACKSON. JACKSON I LEE.
WE AYE LOWENTHAL. LOWENTHAL AYE
MCCARTY. I AM A KENNER. I CAN- I
WENT. WHEN I PATTERSON. ANDERSON
I THINK. THE BILL IS OUT
RESOLUTIONS. THANK YOU CENTER.
CENTER GLAZER IT IS AN HONOR AND
A PRIVILEGE TO BE IN YOUR-
COMPANY TWICE IN ONE MORNING.
BUT WE'RE GONNA DO CONSENT
REALLY QUICKLY AS AS YOU GET SET
UP WE'RE GOING TO THE CONSENT
CALENDAR GET A MOTION SAYING ON
CONSENT GOT A MOTION GOT A
SECOND. MA'AM SECRETARY PLEASE
CALL VOTE ON CONSENT. ON THE
CONSENT CALENDAR. BERMAN HI
BERMAN I FLORA FLORA I ALANIZ.
ALANIZ AYE ALVAREZ ALVAREZ I'VE
- PAINS I BONTA AYE BONTA AYE
CHAN. CHAN I. DIXON I GIPSON.
GRAYSON GRAYSON IRWIN. IRWIN I
JACKSON. JACK'S AYE LEE. WE I
LOWENTHAL. LOW IN THE I MCCARTY
. MCCA I AM BEGINNER. MCKENNA I
WENT. WHEN I PATTERSON. ANDERSON
I THINK THE CONSENT CALENDAR OUT
SENT GLAZER A J. ITEM NUMBER
TEN. S. SIX EIGHTY THREE WHAT IT
READY WHEN YOU ARE. I DON'T
THINK YOUR MICE ON THE LOW.
PRESS HERE THERE YOU GO. WORKING
OUT HERE RUNNING CAN YOU HEAR ME
THANK YOU SIR I WANT TO THANK
YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO PRESENT
THIS BILL TO TODAY. I WANT TO
THANK THE COMMITTEE STAFF FOR
THEIR EXCELLENT WORK ON IT THIS
BILL IS ALMOST IDENTICAL TO A
BILL THAT CHAIR BROUGHT YOU OUT
EARLIER IN THE YEAR. I'M SURE
THAT WE'VE ALL EXPERIENCED THAT
WHAT THIS BILL TRIES TO ADDRESS
AND THAT'S- THEY CAN YOU GET A
HOTEL ROOM OR SHORT TERM RENTAL
AT A CERTAIN FEE. PRICE AND THEN
WHEN YOU FINALLY FINISH CLICKING
THROUGH EVERYTHING YOU REALIZE
IT'S A LOT MORE EXPENSIVE THE
SOME CASES DISCLOSED IN SOME
CASES NOT DISCLOSE FEES ARE
ADDED AT THE END. THOUGH NO WE
WERE JUST THAT I HAD THE
OCCASION TO STAY AT A HOTEL- A
FEW DAYS AGO AND I LEARNED SOME
NEW FEES THAT I HADN'T EVEN
HEARD OF THERE WAS A CIVIC FEE-
IN ADDITION TO THE QUÉ. THE
TRADITIONAL RESORT FEE
CONVENTION FEE AS AN
ENVIRONMENTAL FEE SOME OF THE
HOTELS THAT I'VE STAYED AT
ANYWAY- SO THAT WE'RE TRYING TO
DEAL WITH THAT ISSUE HERE BY
HAVING. YOU KNOW PROPER
DISCLOSURE. A RECENT STUDY BY
THE FEDERAL TRADE COMMISSION
FOUND THAT RESORT FEES. THAT ARE
MANDATORY AN UNDISCLOSED. I IN
THE POST A ROOM RATE
ARTIFICIALLY INCREASE THE SEARCH
COSTS. AND THE COGNITIVE COSTS
FOR CONSUMERS. AT THIS BILL
WOULD REQUIRE HOTELS SHORT TERM
RENTALS AND THIRD PARTY BOOKING
SITES. THE DISPLAY THE TOTAL
COST OF THE STATE INCLUSIVE OF
ALL THE EXTRA FEES. SUCH AS
TAXES CREDIT CARD FEES RESORT
FEES AND THEY'RE ADVERTISED
RATE. BILL WOULD IMPROVE
CONSUMER PROTECTION PREVENT
CONFUSION. BY PROHIBITING
INTENTIONALLY MISLEADING PRICES.
WITH ME TODAY IS REBEKAH MARCUS
ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
PUBLIC INTEREST RESEARCH GROUP
AND TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT. I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR I.
BOATS TODAY THANK YOU CENTER AND
YOU HAVE TWO MEN DIED TWO
MINUTES. CHECKING TO SEE IF IT'S
MORNING MORE CHAIR- A MEMBER OF
THE CA. I'M A MARC HERE I BEHALF
OF. WE ARE STATEWIDE CONSUMER
ADVOCACY GROUP WORKING TO
PROTECT CALIFORNIANS AND ENSURE
FAIR MARKET PLACE WE'RE PROUD TO
SUPPORT SB SIX EIGHTY THREE AND
THANK SENATOR GLAZER FOR HIS
WORK ON THIS LEGISLATION.
CONSUMERS DESERVE TO KNOW WHAT
THEY'RE PAYING FOR AND HOW MUCH
UP FRONT IT'S THAT SIMPLE.
UNFORTUNATELY MANY COMPANIES
INCLUDING HOTELS ARE BLINDSIDING
US WITH HIDDEN FEES MORE AND
MORE HOTELS ARE ON BUNDLING THE
COST OF YOUR STAY. ADVERTISING
THE ROOM PRICE UP FRONT AND THEN
SEPARATE OFTEN COMPULSORY FEES
AT CHECK IN FOR THINGS LIKE WIFI
PARKING. USE OF THE POOL AND
HEALTH CLUBS IN ROOM SAFE AND
THE PHONE IN YOUR ROOM THESE
ADDITIONAL FEES COMMONLY CALLED
RESORT FEES ARE OFTEN NOT
DISCLOSED UP FRONT. AND RATHER
CHARGED AT CHECK IN OR WHEN YOU
PAY FOR YOUR STAY. I'M IN THE
SAME F. T. C. REPORTS THAT-
CENTER GLAZER. I JUST MENTIONED
THEY ALSO CONCLUDED THAT
SEPARATING THESE RESEARCH FEES
FROM THE ROOM RATE WITHOUT FIRST
DISCLOSING THE TOTAL PRICE
PRICE. IS UNLIKELY TO RESULT IN
BENEFITS THAT OFFSET THE LIKELY
HARM TO CONSUMERS WHICH INCLUDE
ADDITIONAL TIME SEARCHING FOR
HOTELS MANDATORY FEES. ARE
MAKING AN UNINFORMED CHOICE
RESULTING IN A COSTLY HOTEL
STAY. CALIFORNIA CONSUMERS
DESERVE COMPLETE PRICING
INFORMATION AND SB EIGHTY THREE
AND THE TRANSPARENCY IT WILL
PROVIDE BECAUSE CONSUMERS IS CAN
CRITICAL TO ENSURING A FAIR
MARKET PLACE. FOR THOSE REASONS
WE ASK FOR AN AYE VOTE. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. ANY ADDITIONAL
WITNESSES WHO. WANT TO ADD ON IN
SUPPORT OF THE BILL. CENA ANY
WITH. IN OPPOSITION TO THE BILL
. GOT A MOTION. I HAVE A SECOND
. HELLO TURN MEMBERS FAMILIAR
THE MONEY ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA TRAVEL ASSOCIATION. I
WILL TRY TO KEEP IT BRIEF BUT
THERE'S A LOT I WANT TO COVER
SAGA FAST. I AM MY MEMBERSHIP
INCLUDES CONVENTIONS AND VISITOR
BUREAUS RESORTS DESTINATIONS
HOTELS OTHER INDUSTRY
ASSOCIATIONS. AND ANYONE THAT'S
A PART OF THE TRAVEL AND TOURISM
ECOSYSTEM AND WE- RESPECTFULLY
OPPOSE SENATE BILL SIX EIGHTY
THREE AS IT IS IN PRINT- WE ARE
NOT OPPOSED TO TRANSPARENCY AND
ANYWAY WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR A
BALANCED APPROACH. TO CONSUMER
PROTECTION THAT DOESN'T CREATE A
COMPETITIVE DISADVANTAGE FOR OUR
INDUSTRY THAT IS FINALLY
RECOVERING FROM THE ECONOMIC
IMPACTS OF COATED- CALIFORNIA'S
TOURISM PROMOTION ON THE STATE
THROUGH THE CALIFORNIA AND LOCAL
LEVEL IS FUNDED THROUGH. TOURISM
ASSESSMENTS- THESE ARE USUALLY
CALLED T. ID'S OR T. BEDS BEDS
WHAT HAVE YOU- ENABLED IN
CALIFORNIA STATUTE AND COLLECTED
FROM VARIOUS SEGMENTS OF THE
INDUSTRY THAT PAY INTO THESE
ASSESSMENTS TO PROMOTE. THE
INDUSTRY ACCORDING TO VISIT
CALIFORNIA IN TWENTY TWENTY TWO.
THEIR INDUSTRY ASSESSMENT FUNDED
PROMOTIONS LEAD TWO HUNDRED AND
THIRTY FIVE BILLION DOLLARS OF
VISITOR SPENDING THAT'S ABOUT
93% OF WHERE WE WERE PRIOR TO
COVER. THIS GENERATED TWELVE
BILLION DOLLARS IN STATE AND
LOCAL TAX REVENUES WHICH SAVE
CALIFORNIAN HOUSEHOLDS ROUGHLY
NINE HUNDRED AND SIX DOLLARS
THIS LAST YEAR- LOCAL TRANSIENT
OCCUPANCY TAX T. O. T. WE DON'T
HAVE ONE ON THE STATE LEVEL BUT
YOU KNOW YOU'RE- NEIGHBORHOODS
PROBABLY DO. PAID BY HOTEL AND
VACATION RENTAL GAS ALSO POWER
LOCAL COMMUNITIES ACROSS
CALIFORNIA FORTY SIX CITIES RELY
ON TOT REVENUE TO COVER AT LEAST
30% OF. THEIR OVERALL GENERAL
FUND EXPENDITURES. THESE TAXES
AND ASSESSMENTS ARE PRO
CURRENTLY BROKEN OUT AND LODGING
TRANSACTIONS JUST AT THE END OF
THE TRANSACTION. WE'RE NOT
UNIQUE IN USING T. EIGHTY AND T.
O. T. TO FUND TOURISM PROMOTION.
INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS AN
ESSENTIAL GOVERNMENT SERVICES
THERE ARE CURRENTLY OVER A
HUNDRED NINETY TOURISM
IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS NATIONWIDE
ACROSS NINETEEN STATES AND MOST
STATES HAVE SOME SORT OF LODGING
TAX WHETHER IT STATEWIDE OR IN
THEIR LOCALITIES AS IN
CALIFORNIA. IF SB SIX EIGHTY
THREE WERE TO PASS WE WOULD BE
UNIQUE AND THAT THESE GOVERNMENT
APPROVED TAXES FEES AND
ASSESSMENTS WOULD BE INCLUDED IN
THE ADVERTISED RATE OF EVERY
SHORT TERM LODGING STAY. WE ARE
OPPOSED TO THIS AND BELIEVE IT
WILL PUT CALIFORNIA AT A
COMPETITIVE DISADVANTAGE. WE
HAVE NO ISSUE WITH INCLUDING
RESORT FEES DESTINATION FEES
CLEANING FEES CREDIT CARD FEES
AND ADVERTISE RATE. AND SOME
HOTEL CHAINS ARE DOING THIS-
ALREADY LEADING THE WAY IN THIS
PRACTICE AS THEY WERE. TOLD TO
DO BY THE AGENT PENNSYLVANIA BUT
A LOT OF OTHERS ARE TAKING SUIT-
WE'RE SIMPLY ASKING THAT BEES
GOVERNMENT OPPOSE LEVEES BE
EXCLUDED FROM PROVISIONS OF THIS
BILL. ACOSTA VISITING CALIFORNIA
IS ALREADY PRETTY HIGH PLEASE
DON'T ARTIFICIALLY INFLATE IT-
BY INCLUDING NEEDS. APPROVED
LEVEES AND TO THE TERM JUNK FEES
BECAUSE WE DON'T BELIEVE THEY
ARE THEY DO PROVIDE A PUBLIC
BENEFIT. AND I'VE I GOT OVER TWO
MINUTES SORRY JULIE. GO AHEAD. I
THINK JUST HIT THE MIKE. I DO
NOT ASK ABOUT HALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA HOTEL AND LODGING
ASSOCIATION CHL A REPRESENTS THE
BIG BRANDS DOWN TO THE LITTLE
AIRBNB EASE AND EVERYTHING IN
BETWEEN. THE ONLY THING I WANT
TO ADD HERE WE HAVE WE HAVE THE
SAME POSITION WHICH IS OPPOSE
UNLESS AMENDED OUR FOCUS OF
COURSE IS GOVERNMENT IMPOSED
FEES. CALIFORNIA WAS THE LAST
STATE IN THE UNION TO OPEN UP
AFTER COLLUDED- WE HAVE MISSED
OUT ON YEARS OF LARGE GROUPS AND
BUSINESSES- CONVENTIONS COMING
TO CALIFORNIA WE THINK PUTTING A
BIG FLASHLIGHT ON OUR HIGHER
TAXES PROBABLY ISN'T THE BEST
WAY TO GET US MOVING. IN THE
RIGHT DIRECTION ON LARGE GROUPS
AND BUSINESSES SO WE ECHO THE
CONCERNS- SHARED BY- CAL TRAVEL
AND- ASK FOR YOUR NO VOTE UNLESS
IT'S AMENDED. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. ANY ADDITIONAL WITNESSES
ONE ADAM IN OPPOSITION TO THAT
KNOWING TO FIRST IN SUPPORT OF
THE BILL THERE ARE TO DO THAT
I'M SORRY ALL OR THE END OF THE
HEARING. AT ANY ADDITIONAL
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION TO THE
BILL. SO MY AND HER ON BEHALF OF
THE EXPEDIA GROUP IN OPPOSITION
THANK YOU. REBEKAH COLLEAGUES
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ASSEMBLY
MEMBER MCCARTY YES THANK YOU I
THINK THIS IS. A RIGHTEOUS ISSUE
THAT. OUR PRESIDENT IS ON. THE
FORMER PRESIDENT MCCLATCHY HIGH
SCHOOL IS ON- THE ARM THE- ARE
TURNING GENERAL. THAT'S MISTER
GLAZER. OUR OUR CHAIR- MANY
PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS
ISSUE IT'S A NO BRAINER I THINK-
ON ONE OF OUR COLLEAGUES WORKING
ON THE- ON OTHER ASPECTS AS WELL
RENTAL CARS- AS CONSUMERS WE SEE
THIS. AND YOU GET ALL EN YOUR
AND YOUR YOUR MIND SAYS DURAN.
KALECKI BY TICKETS FOR CONCERTS
LIKE MISS FRIEDMAN SAYS YOU'RE
IN AND THEN. CAN YOU SAY YES AND
THEN THE AND THEY ADD UP THEIR
STUFF AND THEN YOU'RE PAST THE
POINT OF NO RETURN YOUR THAT GOT
SCREWED AND I ALREADY SAID I'M
IN- BUT IT'S NOT FAIR. AND SO I
AM I AM I SUPPORT THE SUMMIT
JOIN AUTHOR. WITH MR BERMAN ON
THE SIMILAR BILL PROBABLY WILL
GET ONE BILL THE END BUT I DO
THINK THE ISSUE RAISED BY. THE
CONVENTION AND VISITORS BUREAU
SOCIUS IN. CLEANING OUR LOCAL
ONE- VISIT SACRAMENTO BRINGS UP
AT AT A GOOD ISSUE AND I WOULD
HOPE THAT. WE COULD ADDRESS THAT
PIECE BECAUSE THESE AREN'T ADD
ON FEES THAT THE MARRIOTT TARP
ARE PUTTING IN FOR THE RESORT
FEE THEY DON'T TELL YOU TO YOU
GET THERE THIS OTHER ONES. THESE
TAXES OTHER PIECES I THINK IS A
LEGITIMATE ISSUE- AND- IT'S
SOMETHING THAT I THINK YOU COULD
POTENTIALLY TAKE OUT AND STILL
KEEP. 90% OF OVER TRYING TO
ADDRESS IN THIS LEGISLATIVE
PACKAGE SO- HOPING THAT WE CAN
ADDRESS THAT AS WE MOVE ON. YOU
HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT.
SENATOR WELL FIRST I THINK PART
OF THE CHALLENGE OF CALIFORNIA
BEING SO PROGRESSIVE IS THAT
SOMETIMES WERE AHEAD OF THE
COUNTRY I MEAN THIS REALLY
SHOULD BE DONE ON THE NATIONAL
LEVEL. THERE'S AN EQUAL PLAYING
FIELD NO ONE WANTS TO PUT OUR
COMPANIES AT A DISADVANTAGE
HERE. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING I
TYPICALLY LEGISLATING THIS AREA.
AS YOU KNOW MY- BUSINESS
FRIENDLY- APPROACH TO THINGS
BUT- SO IT'S A LITTLE
UNCOMFORTABLE TO BE IN FRONT OF
THE NATION ON IT BUT I DO THINK
IT WE'RE TRYING TO SEND A CLEAR
MESSAGE- I WANT TO SUPPORT OUR
CALIFORNIA. LODGING
ESTABLISHMENTS. I'D LIKE TO BE
ABLE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO
THAT BUT A PART OF IT IS TO
LEAD. THIS ALLOW CALIFORNIA TO
LEAD IN THIS SPACE ABOUT FULL
DISCLOSURE FOR PEOPLE- I GUESS I
WOULD ADD ASSEMBLY MEMBER THAT
TAB. YOU KNOW THE THESE ARE AT
THAT THE HOTEL INDUSTRY THAT
THERE'S THE LODGING INDUSTRY
THERE THERE THERE. THE BOYS AND
GIRLS AND THEY KNOW WHEN THEY-
AGREE TO THESE CONVENTION TAXES
OR THESE JOB TRANSIT OCCUPANCY
TAXES THEY- THEY KNOW THAT
THERE'S A- THERE'S A REASON FOR
IT AND THERE'S A DISADVANTAGE
FOR IT BUT THEY'VE COME TO THE
CONCLUSION THAT IT HELPS
PROMOTE. THE BUSINESS AND THAT
OVERALL IT'S GONNA BE A GAME. SO
THAT THEY'RE MAKING ADULT
DECISIONS ABOUT ALL THESE
DIFFERENT FEES THAT SOME OF
WHICH YOU'RE REFERENCING. AND I
KNOW THAT THEY DO IT
THOUGHTFULLY AND CAREFULLY AND
I. THINK THAT WILL CONTINUE TO
BE THAT THE WILL GOING FORWARD-
AS THEY OP WORK WITH COMMUNITIES
TO- TO ADVANCE THESE TYPES OF
FEES YOU'RE REFERENCING. THANK
YOU. I SO I'M GONNA HAVE A
LITTLE LIST WE'RE GONNA GO IN
THE SUMMER WHEN THE INDEX AND
THEN LEE AND I'M GOING TO BRING
IT TO SOME OTHER COLLEAGUES.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR AND THANK
YOU SENATOR FOR BRINGING THE
SPORT I AGREE WITH YOU- ON THE
TRANSPARENCY PART AND I WANT TO
THANK MY COLLEAGUE FROM
SACRAMENTO. OR BRINGING UP SOME
OF THESE- ALSO CONCERNS AND EVEN
I HAD A REALLY GREAT
CONVERSATION. THIS MORNING AS I
WAS DRIVING IN HERE WITH SOME
QUESTIONS ON THIS BILL. AND I
YOU KNOW WHEN FOLKS COME HERE
FOR CONVENTIONS ARE THEY STAY
HERE WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO BE A
DESTINATION. STATE HERE. AND WE
WANT TO CONTINUE TO BRING PEOPLE
HERE BECAUSE WE KNOW WE HAVE
FORTY NINE OTHER STATES THAT
THEY CAN CHOOSE TO GO TO AS
WELL. AND COST IS AN ISSUE FOR
MANY FOLKS. TAXES IS DIFFERENT
IN EVERY CITY TAXES IS DIFFERENT
IN EVERY STATE. AND YOU AND I
TALKED ABOUT THIS AND I WANT TO
SUPPORT THIS BILL BUT I ALSO
WANT YOUR COMMITMENT WANTS TO
WORK WITH THE OPPOSITION WHICH
IF I FEEL LIKE THAT'S WHAT YOU
ARE SAYING IS THAT YOU WANT TO
CONTINUE WORKING WITH THEM BUT-
BUT TO THE TAX PART. IS A BIG
ISSUE FOR ME. AND IF I CAN GET
YOUR COMMITMENT TO EXEMPT THE
TAX OUT OF THIS. AND I WANT TO
BE ABLE TO SUPPORT. THIS BILL.
AND WILL. THE MEASURE SAY THIS
THE FIRST ALL WE'VE HAD GOOD
CON. WE HAVE ANOTHER. ON A
DIFFERENT ISSUE THAT TO HAVE HAD
THE CHANCE TO WORK WITH THESE
WONDERFUL. OPPONENTS TODAY AT
LEAST- AND I'VE CERTAINLY
COMMITTED TO CONTINUING THOSE
CONVERSATIONS. ABOUT OUR THE
CHECK TO ADD AND I THINK THE TAX
ISSUE I'M OPEN TO. TAKING A
CLOSER LOOK AT THE TAX ISSUE-
THIS BILL ONE OF THE- A NEW
THINGS ABOUT THE WORK IN THIS.
AREA IS THAT THE CHAIR BERMAN
AND I ARE BOTH CARING BILLS AND
WE HAVE TRIED TO COLLABORATE. ON
OUR WORK SO THAT I DON'T GET TOO
FAR AHEAD OF HIM AND HE DOESN'T
GET TOO FAR AHEAD OF ME. HE'S
MADE A SINGLE CHANGE TO HIS BILL
THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN MINE THAT
I'M OPEN TO. COOPERATING INTO
MINE. WHICH IS TO DELAY THE
IMPLEMENTATION FOR SIX MONTHS.
BUT THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE'VE
BEEN TRYING TO COLLABORATE ON
BETWEEN THE HOUSE ITSELF. I'M
COMMITTED TO TAKING ANOTHER
LOOK. AT THE TAX ISSUE IN
CONJUNCTION WITH YOUR CHAIR- AND
OPEN MINDED TO HOW WE TRY TO
FIND THIS BALANCE THAT WE'RE
TRYING TO DO. WITH THE
TRANSPARENCY DISCLOSURE. BUT NOT
PUTTING IT AT A DISADVANTAGE
COMPETITORS VANISHING. TAXES MAY
BE THE PLACE WHERE WE CAN FIND.
THAT ARE COMMON GROUND. THANK
YOU IN JUST CHAIR IS PROVOCATIVE
I'D JUST TO REITERATE WHAT THE
CENTER SAID IN TERMS OF WE'RE
HAVING ONGOING CONVERSATIONS OUR
LAST ONE WAS FRIDAY MORNING- SO
WE'VE BEEN HAVING LOTS OF
CONVERSATIONS. TOGETHER AND THEN
ALSO CONVERSATIONS WITH.
INDUSTRY THAT HAS CONCERNS- THE
TAX ISSUES A LITTLE MORE
COMPLICATED- IT'S THERE'S T. O.
T. WHICH IS WHICH IS VOTED ON BY
THE COMMUNITY I KNOW BECAUSE I
LED THE EFFORT IN PALO ALTO TO
RAISE IT FROM TWELVE TO FOURTEEN
PERCENT. THE HELP FIND PUBLIC
SAFETY BUILDINGS AND FIRE
STATIONS AND OTHER THINGS- AT
BUT THERE'S ALSO THESE THESE.
KIND OF TENANT IMPROVEMENT
DISTRICTS. WHICH ARE VOTED ON MY
UNDERSTANDING IS BY THE HOTELS
THEMSELVES- SO THERE'S- SIMPSON
. DIFFERENCES THAT NEED TO BE
HASHED OUT- AND WILL KEEP THOSE
CONVERSATIONS GOING I KNOW-
BETWEEN US. SOME OTHER
COLLEAGUES HAVE BILLS IN A
SIMILAR SPACE. IN THE OPPOSITION
AND THE SUPPORTERS AS WELL. JUST
FOR EVERYBODY'S CLARIFICATION
BEFORE THEY- MAKE THEIR COMMENTS
AND ANSWER QUESTIONS. SO I'VE
GOT AS A MEMBER DIXON. I THANK
YOU CHAIR THANK YOU SENATOR AND
APPRECIATE THE MUTUAL. EFFORT
HERE OF THAT WE'RE GOING
THROUGH- I TOTALLY AGREE WITH
THE TAX TREATMENT IN TERMS OF
VISIBILITY- BUT IT. IF THIS IS A
CONSUMER PROTECTION BILL LET'S
PROTECT THE CONSUMERS. ALSO AND
LET THEM KNOW IN ADDITION TO THE
FEES THAT ARE GOING TO BE TACKED
OUT LET THEM KNOW. THAT THIS. IF
IT'S AN AIRBNB OR HOTEL AND ITS
TWO HUNDRED FIFTY DOLLARS A
NIGHT. YEAH WE PUT. CAN YOU PUT
A LITTLE REQUIREMENT FOR AN
ASHTRAY AND SAFE FINAL. OF FEES
AND TAXES WILL BE ON THE FINAL
PAYMENT PAGE JUST SO FOR THE
BENEFIT OF THOSE WHO ARE
COMPARING YOU GO ON THE WEBSITE
FOR AIRBNB OR HOTELS AND YOU SEE
TWO HUNDRED FIFTY DOLLARS A
NIGHT FOR ONE HOTEL THAT DOESN'T
INCLUDE FEES AND THEN. HUNDRED
FIFTY DOLLARS A NIGHT THAT DOES
INCLUDE FEES I MEAN IT IT'S
LET'S BE FAIR TO THE CONSUMER SO
THEY DON'T HAVE TO PLAY A
GUESSING GAME DOESN'T INCLUDE
FEES AND TAXES OR DOES IT NOT.
AND I DO AGREE AGREE WITH THE
REPRESENTATIVES OF TERRITORIES
OF INDUSTRY IT REALLY WILL PUT.
THE CUSTOMER FIRST PUT OUR
BUSINESS OUR STATE AND OUR OUR
INDUSTRY AT A DISADVANTAGE
BECAUSE IT WILL TAKE A WHILE FOR
CONGRESS. AND THE STATES TO
CATCH UP SO I DON'T MIND BEING
NUMBER ONE IN THIS AREA BUT I
THINK WE HAVE TO BE CLEAR TO THE
CONSUMER THAT IT'S NOT APPLES
AND APPLES TO APPLES AND ORANGES
AND TELL THE REST OF THE CAT A
COUNTRY CATCHES UP. SO JUST PUT
AN ASTERISK THERE AND TODAY THE
BASE COST IS TWO FIFTY OR
WHATEVER OBVIOUSLY AND THEN
THERE'S AN ASTERISK OR A OR A
FOOT NOTE THAT SAYS SEE THE
FINAL PAGE AT THE TIME OF
PAYMENT YOU'LL SEE THE TOTAL
FEES AND THEN. THEY KNOW WHAT
THEY'RE GETTING BUT- TWO OF. PUT
OUR STATE AND OUR INDUSTRY AT A
DISADVANTAGE TAXES AND FEES. ARE
AT THE FRONT END I THINK IS A
PROBLEM SO THAT'S WHERE I AM
MOVING TO THE BACK AND EVERYBODY
BE HAPPY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU A
SOME REALLY. SENATOR THANK YOU
BRING THIS BEFORE AS HAPPY AS
SUPPORT OUR CHAIRS VERSION OF
THE BILL AS WELL AND I THINK
IT'S A VERY THOUGHTFUL PRO COULD
SIMMER BILL AND I WOULD LOVE OF
YOU SEE TO SEE MORE PER CONSUMER
BILLS COMING OUT OF YOUR OFFICE
TO. I WOULD- IF YOU'RE IF YOU
WOULD HAVE ME I WOULD LOVE TO BE
A CO AUTHOR ON THE BILL TO. AND
I HOPE YOU COULD SEE WORKING ON
THIS EFFORT AND I DO THINK IN
MANY WAYS IT'S A FAIR TO
CONSUMERS AND BUSINESSES KNOW
EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO
BUY. IT'S A VERY SIMPLE
COMMONSENSE MEASURE AND
HOPEFULLY WHAT WE DO IN
CALIFORNIA OTHER STATES WILL
FOLLOW SUIT THANK YOU. THE
ASSEMBLY MEMBER AS A MEMBER
GIPSON. GOT IT- MOVADO SOMETHING
OVER PATTERSON. THANKS PRECIADO
THE BILL SENATOR. I'M I ENJOY
GETTING OUT OF YOUR COMFORT ZONE
A LITTLE BIT. ON MY FIRST YEAR
IN THIS HOUSE BUT- I'M- FEELING
A PRIOR LIFE I E. SEVEN MONTHS
AGO. I WAS THE LAST TEN PLUS
YEARS MY JOB WAS WORKING ON.
BOOKING CONFERENCES I MEAN AYE
BUT THOUSANDS OF HOTELS WITH
DOZENS OF PROPERTIES AND ALL.
ALL TYPES OF DIFFERENT PROPERTY
OWNERS- AND THAT INCLUDES YOU
KNOW HIGH AND THEN THE PLACES
THAT I CAN AFFORD TO PAY AS
WELL. AND ALSO- FOUR YOU KNOW
RENTALS OWNER RENTALS AS KINDS
OF THINGS. I HAVE PERSONALLY
NEVER EXPERIENCED THIS BEING AN
ISSUE I'M- AND I'M NOT SAYING IT
ISN'T AN ISSUE I'M JUST SAYING
AND ALL THAT. THOUSANDS OF HOTEL
ROOMS I'VE BOOKED AND PLANNING
EVENTS AND WORKING WITH PEOPLE
INDIVIDUALLY TO BOOK THEIR
ROOMS. AT INDIVIDUAL HOTELS FOR
ONE EVENT. IT HASN'T BEEN AN
ISSUE FOR ME- YOU KNOW BUT ALSO
ON THE OTHER HAND I. WE DO HAVE
A IN PLASTER COUNTY WE HAVE ONE
OF THESE. YOU KNOW TAX
ASSESSMENT GROUPS AND IT'S HELP
FIND OUR- WE HAVE NOW A MAJOR
SPORTS CENTER IN PLASTER COUNTY
THAT DRAWS IN. YOU KNOW I MEAN
MAYBE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF
PEOPLE A YEAR. I'M I DON'T THINK
I'M TOTALLY COMFORTABLE WITH
SAYING HEY YOU KNOW THEY SHOULD
THEY'RE TAXING THEMSELVES THEY
SHOULD BE EXEMPT FROM DISCLOSING
FREE. I MEAN I THINK THAT THAT'S
KIND OF IT IS A CONSEQUENCE OF
MAKING THE DECISION TO- HAVE
HAVE HIGH TAXES YOU KNOW IN THIS
STATE I THINK PEOPLE SHOULD KNOW
THAT ACTUALLY WE SHOULD
ADVERTISE THAT MORE. BUT ON THE
OTHER HAND I AM CONCERNED
OBVIOUSLY ABOUT MY DISTRICT IN
THE ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES THAT
WERE CREATED. IN MY DISTRICT.
MMHM AND IT'S REALLY KIND OF
BEEN A TRANSFORMATIVE THING AND
PLASTER COUNTY. TO BRING ALL THE
SPORTS TEAMS IN FROM ALL OVER
THE NATION I MEAN THEY'VE-
THEY'VE HAD MAJOR NATIONAL
TOURNAMENTS IN PLASTER COUNTY.
IN A LOT OF THAT'S BECAUSE OF
THE HOTEL RATES ARE ARE LOWER
COMPARED TO SOME OTHER PLACES
LIKE THE BAY AREA IN L. A. AND
SO ON AND SO FORTH. SO I AM A
LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE
UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES I
HONESTLY AS I SIT UP HERE RIGHT
NOW I DID OPPOSE AT THE CHAIRS
MEASURE. YOU KNOW DIDN'T FULL
DISCLOSURE THERE I AM A LITTLE
BIT MORE. OPEN TO THIS IDEA BUT
I AM I HAVEN'T HAD THE
OPPORTUNITY TO TALK WITH MY
LOCALS ABOUT HOW THIS WOULD
IMPACT WITH THAT. TENS OF
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT THEY
SPEND ON THE SENIOR CENTER AND I
AM CONCERNED ABOUT THAT
IMPACTING. SOMETHING THAT
THEY'VE INVESTED SO MUCH MONEY
AND THEN IT ALL TOOK A HUGE HIT
I MEAN IT WAS FINISHING LIKE
TWENTY NINETEEN AND THEN THE
PANDEMIC CARE AND THEY'RE JUST.
JUST NOW CATCHING UP NOW SO. SO
I DO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT HOW
THAT WOULD HELP LOCALLY BUT I
JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE. THAT I
DO THINK ONE. GENERALLY SPEAKING
WHEN PEOPLE BOOK A RAM. THEY
SHOULD KNOW THE PRICE OF THAT
ROOM. AND I DON'T THINK A LOOK
IF WE TAXED. CREATED HIGH TAXES
OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT HAS CREATED
HIGH TAXES HAS SORT OF ON THEM.
YOU KNOW SO I AM REALLY TORN ON
THIS WIND BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY I
HAVEN'T CHECKED WITH MY LOCAL
PEOPLE ON- ON WHAT THE DYNAMIC
WOULD BE FOR THEM AND WHAT THE
LOSSES WOULD BE TO. FINANCE THE
FACILITY THAT THEY ALREADY HAVE
MORE KIND OF CHANGING THE GAME
IN THE MIDDLE OF IT SO THAT DOES
CONCERN ME A LITTLE BIT BUT- YOU
HAVE ANY COMMENTS THAT OFFICE
SAID TAKE ON BUT- AS YOU CAN SEE
I'M STRUGGLING WITH THIS ONE. SO
THANK YOU. AT AND THROUGH THE
CHAIR I APPRECIATE YOUR
THOUGHTFULNESS THAT YOU'RE
APPLYING IT TO THIS BILL AND IT
IS. YOU CAN SEE BOTH SIDES OF
THE COIN. ASSEMBLY MEMBER- I
WOULD NOTE THAT THE BILL HAS
ENJOYED JOBS. BIPARTISANSHIP AND
AUTHORSHIP AUTHORSHIP IN AND
SUPPORT AS IT'S GONE THROUGH I
THINK PEOPLE SHARE. THE SAME
DILEMMA YOU YOU'RE FACING. AND
I'D- APPRECIATE YOUR
CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU ARE
ASSEMBLY MEMBER MAKE INNER. YES
GOOD AFTERNOON- SENATOR- THANK
YOU FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD I
ALSO HAD A- CONSUMER PROTECTION
BILL. EARLIER THIS YEAR I'M WHAT
I WOULD SAY ABOUT THIS IS A
COUPLE OF THINGS- AS I SPOKE
WITH ONE OF MY- GOOD FRIENDS
WHO- SHE DOES GOLF TOURNAMENTS
ALL AROUND THE COUNTRY FOR CITY
OF HOPE. SHE DOES LOOK AT THE
PRICES YOU KNOW SHE DOES LOOK AT
HOW MUCH IT COSTS TO GIVE THESE
EVENTS. AND SELL TO HAVE THE
THOSE FEES UP FRONT THEY'RE VERY
IMPORTANT BUT I DON'T WANT TO
LOSE BUSINESS. IN CALIFORNIA AND
I KNOW YOU DON'T EITHER SENATOR.
BUT SOME OF THE REALLY STRUCK ME
WAS THE TAXES LIKE. I DON'T
THINK THOSE TAXES SHOULD BE A
PART OF THAT BECAUSE WHEN I.
EVEN WHEN I LOOK AT A SALE FOR
ANYTHING. A CAR FOR ANYTHING TO
PURCHASE OR TO BUY OR TO RENT
THE TAXES ARE NEVER INCLUDED AND
SO WE SET THE TAXES THE LOCAL
COMMUNITIES THAT THE TAXES.
TAXES CAN CHANGE I THINK THOSE
FEES SHOULD BE DISCLOSED BUT I'M
REALLY HAVING A HARD TIME WITH
THE TAXES BEING- DISCLOSED SO I
WOULDN'T. I WOULD REALLY LIKE
YOU TO LOOK AT MAYBE TAKEN THOSE
AMENDMENTS THANK YOU. THANK YOU
ASSEMBLYMEMBER. YES YES SUMMER
GIVES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH WHAT
THINK THE SCENT OF A BRING THIS
PIECE OF LEGISLATION BEFORE US-
AND I BELIEVE CERTAINLY THAT THE
SENATOR- IS TRYING TO CERTAINLY
BE THOUGHTFUL AS IT RELATES TO
ADDRESSING. WHAT WE KNOW IS A
NATIONAL ISSUE AS RELATES TO-
YOU KNOW THE SPEED IS NOT BEING
DISCLOSED IN PEOPLE. AT THE END
OF DAY WHAT THEY WANT TO KNOW
WHAT IT COSTS UP FRONT. AND SO-
I'M- FROM MY IT LANDS LOOKING
VERY FOR. LOOKING FORWARD TO YOU
GUYS WORKING THIS THING OUT-
MOVING THIS BILL FORWARD BUT
ALSO WITH UNDERSTANDING. WELL
WITH MY SUGGESTED THEM SAVE THAT
WITH IT MY SUGGESTION BEING THAT
ONE- SHOWING AND THEN SHOWING
WHAT IT COSTS AND THEN ALSO THE
FEES THAT GOES ALONG WITH IT.
AND I BELIEVE. AT IT HELPS.
UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE GETTING
UP FRONT- SO THAT THEY WILL BE
SURPRISED I KNOW THAT PRESIDENT
HAVE MADE MENTION OF HIDDEN FEES
AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. BUT
IF THE PERSON WHO'S PURCHASING
WHATEVER THE SERVICES MAYBE THEY
JUST NEED TO BE AWARE AND I
BELIEVE THE CALIFORNIA WE DON'T
WANT TO RUN BUSINESS AWAY FROM
CALIFORNIA WE WANT CALIFORNIA.
TO ATTRACT MORE BUSINESSES- I'M
HERE AND I THINK THAT WE SET
OURSELVES APART FROM A NUMBER OF
DIFFERENT OTHER STATES AROUND
THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE WANT TO
BUSINESS HERE BUT I THINK IF WE
NEED IT PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THE
COST IS UP FRONT. THEY WILL FEEL
A LOT MORE COMFORTABLE BOB AND
NOT A GOTCHA MOMENT AT THE END-
WHEN THEY'RE GETTING READY TO
REVEAL TO. PAY FOR FINAL
PURCHASE SO THAT'S MY SUGGESTION
I WILL BE VOTING FOR TODAY BUT I
WOULD LOVE FOR YOU GET TO GET
WITH THE- WITH THE OPPOSITION.
TO LEASE CONSIDER- SOME OF WHAT
YOU'VE HEARD TODAY AS RELATES
TO- LEASES CLOSING- FEES UP
FRONT. THANK YOU. SUMMER ALVAREZ
THE DECEMBER WHEN. GREAT THANK
YOU APPRECIATE YOU UP BRING FOR
APPRECIATE THE DISCUSSION. I
WOULD JUST LIKE TO NOTE- THAT
THERE'S TAXES AND THERE'S OTHER
FEES THERE'S THINGS LIKE BATES
THERE IN MY IN MY CASE MY CITY
SAN DIEGO WE HAVE SOMETHING
CALLED THE- TOURISM MARKETING
DISTRICT WHICH IS AN ADDITIONAL
FEE. THAT GETS CHARGED ON TOP OF
THE TAX. AND SO AS YOU GO
FORWARD WITH THE DISCUSSION IT
SEEMS LIKE PEOPLE ARE ASKING
THAT YOU LOOK INTO. THE TAX
SITUATION- I WOULD JUST ASK THAT
YOU- BE MINDFUL OF THAT THAT
THERE ARE SOME INSTANCES WHERE.
THESE HOTELS AND RESORTS-
PROACTIVELY CREATE THESE
DISTRICTS TO MAYBE BUILD A
SPORTS FACILITY OR IN MY CASE
THE- TO. THE ATTEMPT WAS TO
BUILD- AND EXPANDED CONVENTION
CENTER THOSE ARE FEES ARE BEING
CHARGED IN ORDER. TO HAVE
FACILITIES THAT ARE- GONNA.
POSITIVELY IMPACT THE HOTELS AND
TOURISM GENERAL BUT THE HOTELS
AND SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT
THAT- THAT WOULD DISTINGUISH
THOSE TWO OF THERE ARE FEES THAT
ARE BEING ASSESSED. I EIGHT
LOCALS FOR ANY PARTICULAR
SPECIFIC- PIECE OF
INFRASTRUCTURE I THINK THAT
SHOULD BE DISCLOSED. BUT I AM
COGNISANT OF MY COLLEAGUES
CONCERNS ABOUT YOU KNOW MAYBE
OTHER TAXES AND SO I DOESN'T
GIVE YOU ANY MORE CLARITY ON HOW
TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS I JUST
ASK THAT- WE IDENTIFY- THAT
THERE ARE REAL FEES THAT
SOMETIMES. REPORT TO BE TAXES
AND IT'S NOT ALWAYS THAT CLEARLY
DELINEATED SO AS YOU GO FORWARD
AND YOU DETERMINE WHICH ONES
STAY IN WHICH IS THAT TO STAY
OUT I GUESS I WOULD- I WOULD- I
WOULD LAND ON THE SIDE OF ERR ON
THE SIDE OF- MORE DISCLOSURE
RATHER THAN LESS JUST LIKE
HAPPENS WITH AIRLINE. TICKETS
RIGHT EVERYTHING GETS DISCLOSE
ANY PARTS IN THEIR LAND TAKE
INCLUDING THE TAX ASSOCIATED SO
MORE DISCLOSURE MY OPINION IS
BETTER THAN LESS. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU US ON A WIN THANK YOU
MISTER SHALL BE REAL QUICK-
THANK YOU FOR MANY OF US HERE
ABOUT THE TAXES BEING SOMETHING
THAT IS MAKING US REALLY
UNCOMFORTABLE THE FEES WERE OFF
FOR. I YOU KNOW I'D LOVE TO GET
A HARD COMMITMENT FROM YOU THAT
YOU WOULD REMOVE THE TAXES I
THINK THAT WOULD MAKE A LOT OF
US FEEL SO MUCH. BETTER I'M
VOTING FOR LESS YOU HEARD FROM
MY COLLEAGUE WE HEAR. ALL THE
WAY DOWN SOUTH TO. THE NORTH
THAT I THINK IT REALLY WOULD
MAKE US FEEL A LOT BETTER. IT
THROUGH THE CHAIR THE GUY WANT
TO COLLABORATE WITH THE CHAIR
WHICH WE'VE BEEN. WORKING
TOGETHER FROM THE START AND I
DON'T WANNA SAY CHANGE THAT
HERE. ON THE FLY- AS I SAID
EARLIER I'M I'M OPEN TO THE
ISSUE OF TAXES AGAIN WHAT TYPE
OF TAXES THERE'S LOTS OF
DIFFERENT TYPES OF TAXES. WHAT
GETS AND WHAT GETS ITS OUT AS IS
NOT SO EASY. TO MAKE IT HARD.
DELINEATION NINE. I'M THIS A
MEMBER OF ABOVE HERE MAKE
REFERENCE TO AIRLINES. ASSEMBLY
MEMBER ALVAREZ. WHEN YOU MAKE AN
AIRLINE RESERVATION. ARE YOU
ABLE TO COMPARE. ONE AIRLINE TO
ANOTHER ON THE SAME SEGMENT.
ANSWERS YOU ABLE TO DO THAT WHY
BECAUSE THE PRICE THAT THEY
COULD THEY PUT OUT THERE. IS
EVERYTHING. IS EVERYTHING. THAT
TWO HUNDRED DOLLAR AIRPLANE
TICKET. DOESN'T SAY AND THEN WE
ADD TAXES ON. THOSE ONCE AGAIN
YOU HAVE A FEDERAL RULE THAT
SAYS NOW IT'S ALL INCLUSIVE. AND
IT'S A CONSUMER PROTECTION
ELEMENT TO SO THAT THEY DON'T
PLAY THE GAMES- URINALYSIS.
COMMITTEE HOUSES VERY WELL DONE
TO TALK ABOUT DIRECT. YOU KNOW
THAT THE DRIPPING- PROCESS AND
OTHERS OF TESTIFIED TO THAT. SO
TO BE SPECIFIC IT'S REALLY ABOUT
HOW YOU TO DEFINE THE FEE OR THE
TAX AND I WANTED. WE HAD A GREAT
COLLEGIALITY HERE AND IT'S
ALWAYS NICE TO. WIN TWO HOUSES
TO NOT HAVE THIS COMPETITION.
ABOUT TO ACTUALLY TRY TO WORK
TOGETHER THOUGHT SLATED TO MAKE
THE RIGHT LINES. CLEAR LINES FOR
THESE TYPES OF BILLS AND I'D I
WANT TO SHOW RESPECT TO YOUR
CHAIR. BY MAKING SURE WE WERE
COLLABORATING ALL THE WAY TO THE
END HERE ON THIS. THE CENTER.
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS. BUT YOUR FLOOR THANK
YOU CHAIR AND- I DON'T WANT TO
BELABOR THE POINT FILLING THESE
KIND OF BEAT THIS INTO THE
GROUND AND CENTERED YOU ARE
SIMILAR TO WENT KIND OF BROUGHT
IT UP. BUT ON ON THE AIRLINES
THEY DO WANT TO POINT OUT LIKE
THAT IS A FEDERAL TAX. THAT'S
NOT A STATE AND LOCAL TAX SO I
THINK THERE IS A VERY BIG YOU
KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH THOSE
TWO- AND I GUESS. OBVIOUSLY YOU
YOU HAVE COMMITTED TO CONTINUE
TO WORK WITH THIS- YEAH CENTER
DOT HAS A BILL THAT SUPPORTED BY
THE ATTORNEY GENERAL. THAT DEALS
WITH THIS IT DOES NOT HAVE THE
TAXES THE INDUSTRY IS-
SUPPORTIVE OF. I GUESS LIKE WHAT
IS THE HESITATION EFFEMINATE I
KNOW TAXES ARE THERE'S A LOT
GOING ON IN THAT WORLD. BUT IF
WE'RE TALKING LIKE. STATE
IMPOSED OR LOCAL IMPOSE TAXES.
THAT DIFFER FROM THE CENTRAL
VALLEY YOU KNOW TO HUNTINGTON
BEACH THERE'S GOING TO BE A
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE TWO
TAXES. AND I DO. VIEW IT AS A AS
A COMPETITION PROBLEM. S. IS
SOMETHING THAT WILL HURT-
CERTAIN COMMUNITIES- BASED ON
THAT. YOU KNOW YOU'RE RIGHT WHEN
ORGANIZATIONS MAKE ADULT
DECISIONS THERE IS A YOU PAY A
PREMIUM TO GO TO. MYSTICS AND
AREA RIGHT I WISH EVERYBODY
UNDERSTANDS THAT- WE WEEK WE GET
THAT. VERSUS THE HOLIDAY INN IN
MODESTO RIGHT IT'S JUST
DIFFERENT. SO I THINK WE NEED TO
HAVE THIS CONVERSATION BUT I
GUESS WHAT IS THE- WHEN IT COMES
A STATE AND LOCAL TAXES WHAT IS
THE HESITATION. I MEAN IT SEEMS
LIKE A REALLY EASY FIX TO GET
EVERYBODY SUPPORTIVE OF IT
INCLUDING ME. I THINK THERE'S A
GOOD CASE TO BE MADE THROUGH THE
CHAIR I THINK THERE IS A GOOD
CASE TO BE MADE THE TAXES. SALES
TAX IN PARTICULAR- SHOULD DOT
DOESN'T HAVE TO BE INCLUDED IN
THE FULL UPFRONT DISCLOSURE SO I
FIND IT TO BE COMPELLING. AGAIN
I DON'T WANT TO MAKE A DECISION
HERE WITHOUT COLLABORATING
PROPERLY- WITH THOSE WHO HAVE
BEEN WORKING ON THIS ISSUE. I
GUESS THIS. IS TO SAY TO YOU
THAT. I'M NOT ANTI INDUSTRY
HERE- AND- I'M TRYING TO FIND
THE RIGHT BALANCE WITH A BILL
LIKE THIS. AND I- IT'S SO I'M
HOPEFUL THAT YOU'LL TRUST ME TO
WORK WITH THAT YOUR COLLEAGUES
TO FIND THAT BALANCE AS THE BILL
MOVES FORWARD. WE HAVE A LOT OF
STEPS AHEAD. EVERYONE HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SUPPORT OR OPPOSE
IT IF IT IS ABLE TO GET TO THE
FLOOR. OF THAT MYSTERIOUS BOX
CALLED APPROPRIATIONS STILL HAD
TO. AND SO I GUESS MY APPEAL
WOULD BE TO. ADD TRUST MY
REPUTATION TO TRY TO FIND THAT
BALANCE AS BEST I CAN AND- AND
ALWAYS GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY
TO SAY NOW AT THE END OF THE
PROCESS. I APPRECIATE THAT AND I
HAVE A DREAM IS NOT RESPECT FOR
YOU AND INTERLAYER CHARRON IN
DEALING WITH THIS I AM GOING TO
JUST LAY OFF OF IT TODAY AND I
LOOK FORWARD TO SUPPORT IT ON
THE FLOOR WHEN WE GET THESE
ISSUES ARE SORTED OUT SO THANK
YOU CENTER. THANK YOU. CENTER
WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE I THANK
FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TODAY I
KNOW YOU HAD A FULL AGENDA. I
APPRECIATE THE THOUGHTFULNESS OF
THE CONVERSATION WE'RE ALL
TRYING TO FIND THAT BALANCE.
CONSUMER PROTECTION DISCLOSURE
TRANSPARENCY OF AND NOT PUT OUR
OUR OUR LODGING ESTABLISHMENTS
SAID AND ADDED TO. AN UNFAIR
DISADVANTAGE I APPRECIATE YOUR
CONSIDERATION TODAY WITH ROUGHLY
ASTRONAUT THANK YOU SENATOR AND
I FOUND MYSELF IN A IN AN
AWKWARD POSITION DURING THIS
CONVERSATION. AS AN AUTHOR OF A
REMARKABLY SIMILAR BILL WITH A
LOT OF OPINIONS- BUT ALSO TRYING
TO BE CHAIR OF YOUR BILL- AS AS
IT COMES THROUGH- IT IS A
REMARKABLY COMPLICATED. KINDA
IT. BILL AND ISSUE- THAT YOU
KNOW OFTENTIMES WE HEAR THIS IS
SO SIMPLE JUST DO THIS ONE THING
BUT THEN YOU DON'T REALIZE THAT.
PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT
DEFINITIONS OF WHAT TAXES ARE IN
THIS INSTANCE THERE'S DOT- THERE
THERE MIGHT BE SALES TAX
THERE'S- THE TENANT IMPROVEMENT
DISTRICTS THERE'S JUST MULTIPLE
DIFFERENT. PIECES THAT NEED TO
BE DISCUSSED AND SO THOSE.
CONVERSATIONS ARE HAPPENING. I
KNOW THAT YOU KNOW WE ALL HEARD
THE LEGITIMATE CONCERNS THAT OUR
COLLEAGUES HAVE. IT'S ALSO
DIFFICULT YOU KNOW YOU COME TO
MY DISTRICT. AND SHOULD A
CONSUMER KNOW. SHOULD IT SHOULD
A TAURUS NO. IF I SAY IN PALO
ALTO ON PAYING A FIFTEEN AND A
HALF PERCENT DOT. BUT IF I'M
STAYING IN SUNNYVALE IT'S NOT
HYPOTHETICALLY SPEAKING BECAUSE
I DON'T REALLY KNOW BUT IT'S AN
11% DOT. AND SHOULD THE TOURISTS
KNOW THAT UP FRONT THEY'RE
COMING TO SILICON VALLEY. BUT
WHICH CITY. ARE THEY GOING TO
STAND IN AND SHOULD THEY AS
CONSUMERS HAVE THAT
TRANSPARENCY. ABOUT WHAT THE
PRICE OF THEIR STAY WILL BE. UP
FRONT OR AT THE LAST MINUTE SO
THESE THE CONVERSATIONS WERE
HAPPENING- TOTALLY UNDERSTAND
THE CONCERNS THAT COLLEAGUES
HAVE RAISED- I AND I. STRONGLY
SUPPORT. THE BILL AND STRONGLY
SUPPORT THE BILL MOVING FORWARD
SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO HAVE
THESE CONVERSATIONS AND-
APPRECIATE THE CENTER FOR. ALL
THE CONVERSATIONS HE HAD WITH
ME. AS WE WORK ON THESE ISSUES
TOGETHER SO WITH THAT- WOULD
BOND SUPPORT THE BILL IS DIED
FULLY SUPPORT THE BILL AND-
MADAM. SECRETARY PLEASE CALL
VOTE. SB SIX THREE. THE MOTION
IS TO PASS TO THE CAN ON JUDY.
BERMAN OUR- FIRM I FLOOR. FLOOR
NOT VOTING ALLEN. ALLEN NOT
VOTING ALVAREZ. ALVAREZ I PAINS
. SPAIN'S NOT BY. BONTA CHEN.
DIXON SIX AND NOT VOTING GIPSON.
GIPSON I GRAYSON. IRWIN IRWIN I
JACKSON. JACKSON I LI. LI I
LOWENTHAL. BONTA AYE MCCARTY.
MCCARTY I'M A KENNER. I CAN- I
WENT. WHEN WITH. A WIN NOT
VOTING. PATTERSON PATTERSON NOT
VOTING TANK. THANK I. THAT BILL
IS OUT. THANK YOU SENATOR. AND
NOW WE'RE GONNA RUN THROUGH- THE
BILLS FOR FOLKS WHO HAVE MISSED
- FIRST YEAH JUST GO AHEAD AND
TAKEN FROM INTEL ON CONSENT-
GIPSON. GIPSON I THINK TANK I.
ACR EIGHTY SIX KALRA THE MOTION
IS TO BE ADOPTED AND RE REFER TO
THE COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
ALANIZ. I'M SORRY I MISSED THE
BILL NUMBER ACR EIGHTY SIX HI.
ALANIZ I DIXON DIXON I PATTERSON
. PATTERSON NOT VOTING. S. B.
TWO EIGHTY FIVE ALLEN THE MOTION
WAS TO PASS TO THE GUM COMMITTEE
ON GOVERNMENTAL ORGANIZATION
FLORA. I GIPSON. GIPSON I CAN- I
CAN- I THINK I THINK I. ON SB
THREE SEVENTY TWO MENJIVAR THE
MOTION WAS DUE PASSED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY ALANIZ.
HOW MANY IS NOT VOTING DIXON.
NIXON NOT VOTING GIPSON. A
PATTERSON. ARSENAL VOTING. ON SB
THREE SEVENTY THREE MENJIVAR THE
MOTION WAS TO PASS AS AMENDED TO
THE COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
ALANIZ HI ALANIZ I DIXON. DIXON
I PATTERSON. PATTERSON I. ON SB
THREE EIGHTY FIVE ATKINS THE
MOTION WAS DUE PASSED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY ALANIZ
NUMBER ALANIZ NOT VOTING DIXON.
SB THREE EIGHTY FIVE ATKINS. R.
DIXON NO. GIPSON MCCARTY MCCARTY
I. ON SB FIVE AWAIT LAYERED THE
MOTION WAS TO PASS TO THE
COMMITTEE ON NATURAL RESOURCES
DIXON. DIXON I. RT MCCARTY I
PATTERSON PATTERSON I. ON SB SIX
SIX NINE CORTESE THE MOTION WAS
TO PASS AS AMENDED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
GIPSON. THANK THANK I. AND. THE
THAT WAS WHAT.
I'M ON SB SIXTY THREE GLAZIER.
BONTA. BONTA NOT VOTING CHEN.
MMHM GRAYSON.
ONE SB SIX EIGHTY THREE GLAZER
THE MOTION IS TO PASS TO THE
COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY GRAYSON
GRAYSON I.
WITH THAT THE MEETING IS
ADJOURNED.