WELCOME TO THE ASSEMBLY
NATURAL RESOURCES COMMITTEE
HEARING. WE HAVE 13 MEASURES ON
THE AGENDA TODAY. FIVE BILLS ARE
PROPOSED FOR CONSENT. SP 301 BY
PORTANTINO SP 3 67 BY SEYARTO
TOÀN BEFORE 22 BY PORTANTINO SP
5 39 STERN AND SB 6 13 SEYARTO
UM, I BELIEVE WE HAVE A QUORUM
SECRETARY. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
REBUS. HERE S HERE, FLORA. ADDIS
. THAT IS HERE. FRIEDMAN HOOVER
HOOVER HERE. MATHIS HERE.
MARTUCCI PELLERIN COLOR IN HERE.
WARD. WOULD WOULD. HERE'S BURR.
YEAH. OKAY, WE HAVE A QUORUM.
WHICH WE VOTE ON THE CONTENT.
CAN I HAVE A MOTION FOR THE
CONSENT? OKAY WE HAVE MOTION AND
A SECOND. PLEASE TAKE THE ROLL.
LEAVE US. I LEAVE US. I'VE FLORA
FLORA I ADDIS. ADDIS I.
FRIEDMAN. HOOVER HOOVER MATHIS
MURATSUCHI. PELLERIN. SALARY AND
I WARD WOULD. OH, WOULD I SPUR.
THAT BILL HAS SEVEN. I MEAN THE
CONSENT. CALENDAR HAS SEVEN
VOTES WILL LEAVE IT OPEN FOR
ABSENT MEMBERS. OKAY WE'LL START
OFF WITH FILE ITEM. TWO SB 2 86
BY MAGUIRE. HE HAS GIVEN
PERMISSION TO ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
WOULD TO PRESENT ON HIS BEHALF
WHENEVER YOU'RE READY. YOU HAVE
A MOTION AND A SECOND. I'LL BE
REALLY BRIEF IN THE INTERESTS OF
NOT WANTING TO LOSE VOTES. THIS
BILL ESTABLISHES THE CALIFORNIA
OFFSHORE WIND ENERGY FISHERIES
WORKING GROUP TO ADDRESS
OFFSHORE WIND ENERGY PROJECT
IMPACTS TO CERTAIN FISHERIES.
AND OTHER INTERESTS. WE HAVE TWO
WITNESSES IN THE LAST THEM TO BE
BRIEF AS WELL. GOOD AFTERNOON
CHAIR AND MEMBERS. I'M SARAH
CHRISTIE, THE COMMISSION'S
LEGISLATIVE DIRECTOR. AND I'M
PLEASED TO REPRESENT THE
COMMISSION TODAY IN SUPPORT OF
SB 2 86. THIS IS A BILL THAT
WOULD STREAMLINE THE PERMITTING
PROCESS FOR OFFSHORE WIND. AND
ADD SPECIFIC DIRECTION TO THE
OFFSHORE FISHERIES WORKING GROUP
, WHICH WAS AUTHORIZED BY THE
COMMISSION'S FEDERAL ACTION LAST
YEAR. NOW IT MAY SEEM A LITTLE
UNUSUAL FOR THE COMMISSION TO
SUPPORT A PERMIT. STREAMLINING A
BILL. BUT WE UNDERSTAND ALL TOO
WELL THAT WE'RE IN A CLIMATE
EMERGENCY, AND WE MUST SPEED OUR
TRANSITION TO RENEWABLE ENERGY.
SB 2 86 WOULD SIGNIFICANTLY
REDUCE PERMITTING TIMELINES FOR
OFFSHORE WIND WITHOUT BYPASSING
OR UNDERMINING THE COASTAL ACT,
OR SEQUA, CALIFORNIA'S TO
BEDROCK ENVIRONMENTAL LAWS. AND
IT WOULD ENSURE THAT LOCAL LCP
POLICIES ARE RESPECTED.
INCREASING EFFICIENCY WITHOUT
SACRIFICING ENVIRONMENTAL
PROTECTION. WE CONSIDER THAT A
MODEL FOR GOOD GOVERNANCE. THE
CONSOLIDATED PERMIT PROCESS AND
IS EXISTS IS AN EXISTING
STREAMLINING OPTION UNDER THE
COASTAL ACT. FOR PROJECTS THAT
STRADDLE TWO OR MORE
JURISDICTIONS WHEN LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS AGREE THE COMMISSION
IS ABLE TO ISSUE A SINGLE PERMIT
FOR WHAT WOULD OTHERWISE REQUIRE
TWO OR MORE SEPARATE PROCESSES,
PERMITS AND FEES. THIS BILL
WOULD MAKE THAT PROCESS
MANDATORY FOR OFFSHORE WIND.
CONSOLIDATED PERMITS WORK
PARTICULARLY WELL FOR LARGE,
MULTI JURISDICTIONAL PUBLIC
INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS LIKE
HIGHWAY REALIGNMENTS, BRIDGES
AND PIPELINES. THE COMMISSION
USES THE CERTIFIED LCP S FOR
GUIDANCE AND CHAPTER THREE IS
THE LEGAL STANDARD OF REVIEW.
THIS MEANS THAT THE COMMISSION
FOLLOWS THE LCP WITHIN CERTIFIED
AREAS AND CHAPTER THREE IN AREAS
OF OUR RETAIN JURISDICTION. IN
THIS WAY. LOCAL POLICIES ARE
FOLLOWED AND RESPECTED WHILE THE
COASTAL ACT INSURERS THAT
RESOURCES ARE PROTECTED. BECAUSE
THE COMMISSION IS GOING TO PLAY
A SIGNIFICANT ROLE IN THE
SUCCESSFUL DEPLOYMENT OF
RESPONSIBLE ENVIRONMENTALLY
SUSTAINABLE OFFSHORE WIND ENERGY
DEVELOPMENT. SB 2 86 WILL ENSURE
THAT THE COASTAL ACT AND SEQUEL
WILL CONTINUE TO GUIDE AND
INFORM THE DECISIONS THAT ALL OF
THE PUBLIC AGENCIES WILL BE
MAKING AND THAT THE COMMISSION
IS ABLE TO CARRY OUT AN
EXPEDITED FAIR PROCESS THAT
HONORS LOCAL POLICIES. FOR THESE
REASONS, THE COMMISSION
RESPECTFULLY ACTS FOR AN I VOTE,
AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS
OF THE COMMITTEE JEREMY SMITH
HERE ON BEHALF OF THE STATE
BUILDING AND CONSTRUCTION TRADES
COUNCIL ALSO PROBABLY TO SUPPORT
SB 26 TODAY AS MOST MEMBERS OF
THIS COMMITTEE NO, UM THE
CONSTRUCTION TRADE UNIONS EVENT,
THE FOREFRONT OF THE RENEWABLE
ENERGY POWER GENERATION IN THE
STATE. WE HAVE BUILT OUR JOURNEY
. MEN AND WOMEN HAVE BUILT A
VAST MAJORITY OF THE UTILITY
SKILLS. SOLAR WIND, HYDRO AND
GEOTHERMAL PROJECTS. SP 26 SIXES
SEEKS TO CREATE A PATH FORWARD
AND FINALLY CAPTURE CALIFORNIA'S
MASSIVE CALIFORNIA OFF WIND
OFFSHORE WIND POTENTIAL, AND WHY
ARE THE ONGOING STRAINS ON THE
ELECTRICAL GRID AND THE FURTHER
ELECTRIFICATION OF OUR HOMES? WE
APPRECIATE SENATOR MCGUIRE'S
COMMITMENT TO THIS INDUSTRY TO
THESE JOBS INTO THE NEW HIS
COMMITMENT TO THE NORTH STATE,
ALONG WITH THE ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO
OFFSHORE WIND. WE ARE STRONG
SUPPORTERS TODAY. URGED YOUR I
VOTE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
NEXT. WE'RE READY FOR ADDITIONAL
WITNESSES AND SUPPORT. HI ANDREW
GOVERNOR GOVERNMENT ADVOCATES
HERE ON BEHALF OF THE COMMERCIAL
FISHING INDUSTRY NUMBER THAT
PACIFIC COAST FEDERATION OF
FISHERMEN'S ASSOCIATION, THE
CALIFORNIA WET FISH PRODUCERS
ASSOCIATION, THE MORRO BAY
COMMERCIAL FISHERMEN'S
ORGANIZATION. ALLIANCE OF
COMMUNITIES FOR SUSTAINABLE
FISHERIES, COMMERCIAL FISHERMEN
OF SANTA BARBARA BODEGA BAY
MARKETING ASSOCIATION,
CALIFORNIA FISHERMAN'S
RESILIENCY ASSOCIATION AND THE
MARKETING ASSOCIATION OF
HUMBOLDT AS WELL IN SUPPORT OF
THE PURPOSE AND THE INTENT OF
THE BILL AND LOOK FORWARD TO
WORKING WITH THE AUTHOR TO
ENSURE THE VITALITY THAT
COMMERCIAL FISHING INDUSTRY.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM
CHAIR AND MEMBERS MATT CRIMMINS
HERE ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
NEVADA CONFERENCE OF OPERATING
ENGINEERS WERE IN SUPPORT. THANK
YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR
MATT ROBINSON WAS SCHEIDER ANTI
SMELLS AND LAYING ON BEHALF OF
THE PACIFIC MERCHANT SHIPPING
ASSOCIATION, PMS. A WE HAVE A
SUPPORTIVE AMENDED POSITION. WE
HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE
AUTHORS AND HIS STAFF ON THOSE
AMENDMENTS AND LOOK FORWARD TO
RESOLVING THEM. THANK YOU. GOOD
AFTERNOON MEMBERS. MOLLY KROLL
WITH AMERICAN CLEAN POWER
ASSOCIATION. WE HAVE ALL ALONG
SUPPORTED THE CREATION OF A
FISHERIES WORKING GROUP TO
DEVELOP A COMPENSATION
MITIGATION STRATEGY. WE HAD
PREVIOUSLY ISSUED A LETTER OF
CONCERN PRIMARILY ABOUT ISSUES
WITH THE STANDARD OF TAKING NAME
. OKAY SO ORGANIZATION AND
POSITION ON THE BILL. SURE THANK
YOU VERY MUCH, UM, REMOVING OUR
LETTER OF CONCERN WERE NOW
NEUTRAL, LEANING, SUPPORTIVE.
APPRECIATE THANK YOU. PASSPORT.
I'M SURE MEMBERS DAN CHON BEHALF
OF THE PORTS OF LONG BEACH. WE
DON'T HAVE A POSITION. BUT WE
MUCH APPRECIATE THE AUTHOR OF
THE COASTAL COMMISSION FOR
WORKING WITH US TO CLARIFIED
PORTS JURISDICTION OVER TO
ACTIVE LEAD AGENCY UNDER SEAT
WAS REALLY APPRECIATE THEIR
THANK YOU. OKAY NEXT, ARE THERE
ANY WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION?
SEEN ON ANY QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS FROM COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S HOOVER. SORRY
THROUGH THE CHAIR. I JUST WAS
WANTED TO JUST GET A LITTLE MORE
CLARITY ON THE AMERICAN CLEAN
POWER ASSOCIATIONS CHANGE IN
POSITION. IF THAT WOULD BE OKAY.
JUST VERY BRIEFLY. JUST SO I
UNDERSTAND, UH, WHY THEY REMOVED
THEIR LETTER OF CONCERN. IS THAT
IS THAT OKAY? WANTED THEM TO
CLARIFY WHY THEY REMOVED THEIR
LETTER. A LETTER OF CONCERN AND
I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY. UM WHY
THEY'RE REMOVING THAT. OH YEAH.
CAN YOU BE BRIEF CAN BE SUPER
SHORT. I JUST WANT TO THE
COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS ADDRESS OUR
PRIMARY CONCERNS. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
COMMENTS. OKAY BUT BEFORE WE YOU
CLOSE, I JUST WANT TO VERIFY
THAT YOU THAT YOU WILL BE
ACCEPTING THE AMENDMENTS ON
BEHALF OF SENATOR MCGUIRE. I
WILL ACCEPT THE AMENDMENTS. YES.
THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR
PRESENTING ON HIS BEHALF. WOULD
YOU LIKE TO CLOSE, SO I WANT TO.
I WANT TO THANK THE AUTHOR FOR
BRINGING THE MEASURE FORWARD.
OFFSHORE WIND POSES IMMENSE
CHALLENGES TO THE NORTH COAST,
WHICH BOTH THE SENATOR AND I
HAVE THE HONOR OF REPRESENTING
AND WHILE I BELIEVE OUR COASTAL
COMMUNITIES ARE UP TO THE
CHALLENGE, IT'S GOING TO TAKE AN
ALL HANDS ON DECK MENTALITY TO
ACCOMPLISH THE OFFSHORE WIND
GOES SET FORTH BY THE BIDEN
ADMINISTRATION. I BELIEVE WE CAN
GET THERE IF WE ENGAGE IN ALL
IMPACTED PARTIES EARLY AND OFTEN
, AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THE
BILL DOES WITH WITH THAT. I WANT
TO THANK MY SENATOR, COLLEAGUE,
SENATOR MAGUIRE, WHO DOVE RIGHT
INTO THIS EARLIER THIS YEAR. I
KNOW IT'S BEEN AN IMMENSE CHAT
UNDERTAKING, AND I BELIEVE THAT
WHAT IS BEFORE US TODAY IS A
GOOD BILL ONE THAT I'M PROUD TO
CO AUTHOR. SO WITH THAT I WOULD
ASK FOR MY VOTE. THANK YOU. WE
HAVE A MOTION BY SEVERAL MEMBERS
AND SECONDED. ALSO BY A COUPLE
OF OTHER MEMBERS OF I JUST
REMEMBER WHO BUT I KNOW IT WAS
ONE OF THEM FOR NOW. BUT
SECRETARY CAN YOU PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL? THE MOTION IS DUE PASS
AS AMENDED TO UTILITIES AND
ENERGY COMMITTEE. RIVAS RIVAS I
FLORA FLORA ADDIS. ADDIS I.
FRIEDMAN. HOOVER HOOVER. I
MASSES MURATSUCHI. PELLERIN
PELLERIN. I WARD WOULD WOULD I
SPUR. THAT BILL HAS SEVEN VOTES
WILL LEAVE IT OPEN FOR ABSENT
MEMBERS. FOR WERE I BELIEVE WE
ARE WAITING FOR AUTHORS. IS
THERE ANY AUTHORS? I DON'T SEE
ANY.
HE'S ONLY HAVE ONE. HE DOESN'T
LIKE HIM GOING. WAIT A MINUTE.
NEED TO BE. LOTS OF WORK.
OKAY WE HAVE SENATOR ELLEN
WELCOME. THAT'S ITEM FOUR SP
303. THANK YOU SO MUCH, UM. THIS
IS ALL ABOUT MAKING SOME MINOR
CHANGES TO SB 54. TO CLARIFY
THAT IT IS THE PRODUCERS WHO ARE
RESPONSIBLE FOR ENSURING
MATERIAL MEANS CARA CYCLES
VERIFICATION CRITERIA WHEN THAT
MATERIAL SENT OUT OF STATE
WITHOUT WE'VE GOT MARKET PRAYER
. HOW ARE YOU, SIR? HOW ARE YOU?
GOOD. MADAM CHAIR. MEMBERS OF
THE COMMITTEE, MARCO PRAYER ON
BEHALF OF REPUBLIC SERVICES.
FIRST WE WANT TO THANK SENATOR
ALLEN FOR AUTHORING THIS
IMPORTANT MEASURE THAT ENSURES
THE SUCCESSFUL IMPLEMENTATION OF
SP 303. WE ALSO WANT TO THANK
THE CHAIR AND HER STAFF OF THIS
COMMITTEE FOR WORKING WITH THE
AUTHOR AND SUPPORTERS OF THE
MEASURE, AND FINALLY, WE ALSO
WANT TO THANK THE OTHER
STAKEHOLDERS OF SB 54, WHO
WORKED TO GET THIS BILL BEFORE
THE COMMITTEE. TODAY REPUBLIC
SERVICES IS PROUD TO HAVE BEEN A
PART OF THE EFFORT TO ADDRESS
SINGLE USE, DISPOSABLE PACKAGING
AND FOOD SERVICE WHERE AND TO BE
COUNTED AMONG THE EARLY
SUPPORTERS OF THAT MEASURE. AS
PART OF SB OF THE SB 54 PROCESS
, THE SOLID WASTE INDUSTRY
RAISED SOME CONCERNS WITH THE
FINAL VERSION OF SB 54. BUT
BECAUSE OF THE PRESS HAVE TIME
TO ENACT THE MEASURE BEFORE JUNE
30TH LAST YEAR, THOSE CONCERNS
COULD NOT BE ADDRESSED IN SB 54
SP THREE OR THREE ADDRESSES
THOSE OUTSTANDING CONCERNS. SB
54 GOVERNS THE PRODUCERS OF
SINGLE USE, PACKAGING AND
PLASTIC SINGLE USE FOOD PLASTIC
WARES, SO THEREFORE IT IS
IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT THE
PROVISIONS OF SB 54 OR APPLIED
TO THE PRODUCER RESPONSIBILITY
ORGANIZATION, OR P R O OF THOSE
COVERED MATERIALS IN THAT LOCAL
AGENCIES AND SOLID WASTE SERVICE
PROVIDERS DO NOT FACE REDUNDANT
OR CONFLICTING REGULATION. IT IS
THEREFORE IMPORTANT TO MAKE
CLEAR THAT THE P R O PROVIDES
DATA AND VERIFICATION THAT
COVERED MATERIALS ARE SHIPPED TO
RESPONSIBLE AND MARKETS. SP 303
PROVIDES NECESSARY CLARITY TO
THE SB 54 IS APPLICATION TO THE
P R O FINALLY SB 54 SP 303
CLARIFIES THE DEFINITION OF
PROCESSING AND RESPONSIBLE AND
MARKET DO NOT OVERLY BURDEN THE
MOVEMENT OF MATERIALS TO END
MARKETS AND REFLECTS THAT
CONTAMINANTS ARE REMOVED DURING
PROCESSING AND NOT AT THE END
MARKET FOR THESE AND OTHER
REASONS WE SUPPORT SB 303. AND
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR I
VOTE. THANK YOU. ARE THERE
ADDITIONAL WITNESSES AND SUPPORT
.
THANK YOU. I'M JANET COX FOR
CLIMATE ACTION CALIFORNIA AND
THE SANTA CRUZ CLIMATE ACTION
NETWORK. THANK YOU. NEXT. ARE
THERE WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION.
SEE NONE. ARE THERE ANY
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM
COMMITTEE MEMBERS? THERE ARE
NONE. WOULD WOULD YOU BE
ACCEPTING THE AMENDMENT? YES
YES, ABSOLUTELY SURE. OKAY.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE? THANK
YOU APPRECIATE THE WORK OF THE
COMMITTEE BOTH LAST YEAR AND
THIS YEAR AND ACCEPT THE
AMENDMENTS AND RESPECTFUL
ASTRONAUT VOTE. THANK YOU. WE
HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND
SECRETARY. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
THE MOTION IS DUE PASS AS
AMENDED TO JUDICIARY COMMITTEE.
RIVAS RIVAS. I FLORA. FLORA I
ADDIS. ADDIS I. FRIEDMAN.
HOOVER. HOOVER. I. MATHIS
MATHIS. I'M MARTUCCI. PELLERIN
PELLERIN AWARD. WOULD WOULD I
SPUR THANK YOU MEMBERS. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. BILL HAS SEVEN
VOTES. WE WILL SEVEN EYES WHEN
WE WILL LEAVE THAT OPEN FOR
ABSENT MEMBERS. OKAY. WE ARE
WAITING FOR SENATE AUTHORS.
YES. SENATOR STERN. NO, GO
AHEAD. STRENGTHEN BLASTER. BILLY
HAS ONE. THE NEXT. SENATOR STERN
YET PLEASE GO. PLEASE SIT DOWN.
HAVE TO PRESENT WE HAVE ITEM 13
SP 7 81 BY SENATOR STERN
WHENEVER YOU'RE READY, THANK
YOU, MADAM CHAIR. UM FOR
BEGINNING TO ACCEPT THE
SUGGESTED AMENDMENTS ON PAGE
FIVE, NUMBER SEVEN. CLARIFYING
THAT NOTHING IN THIS DIVISION
SHALL RELIEVE ANY PERSON
COMPLIANCE WITH FEDERAL, STATE
OR LOCAL LAWS. UM THIS BILL IS
ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT
NATURAL GAS BEFORE IT GETS TO
CALIFORNIA. UM AND ALL THE
EMBEDDED EMISSIONS THAT MAY BE
IN THERE. WE DO A LOT OF GREAT
ENVIRONMENTAL WORK IN THIS
STATE. AND WE HOLD OUR UTILITIES
OR L COMPANIES. TWO VERY, VERY
HIGH STANDARDS. UM HOWEVER, THAT
IS NOT THE CASE IN OTHER OTHER
PARTS OF THIS COUNTRY. AND WE
IMPORT. UM WELL OVER 90% OF OUR
NATURAL GAS IN THIS STATE. SO
THIS BILLS SOME KIND OF
INCENTIVE, HOPEFULLY FOR THE
MARKETPLACE TO START TO CERTIFY
THAT THEY ARE AT LEAST MEETING
SOME MINIMUM STANDARDS IN OTHER
JURISDICTIONS, SO PLACES LIKE
PENNSYLVANIA, THE MARCELLUS
SHALE IN TEXAS. UM THE PERMIAN
BASIN. THOSE AREAS. AH ARE
SLOWLY STARTING TO ADOPT BETTER
STANDARDS. WELLHEAD PRACTICES,
FUTURE EMISSIONS MONITORING, BUT
NOT IN MANY CASES, SO HOPEFULLY
BY PUTTING FORWARD SOME KIND OF
CERTIFICATION STANDARD, WHICH
THERE'S A NUMBER OF COMPETING
STANDARDS OUT THERE, WHICH I
THINK IS ACTUALLY A GOOD THING.
WE'RE HOPING TO INDUSTRY
ACTUALLY STARTS TO DELIVER GAS
TO THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
THAT'S AS LOW CARBON AS POSSIBLE
AS WE MAKE THAT BIGGER
TRANSITION. SO UM, THAT'S THE
CONTEXT THE BILL, BUT I'M HAPPY
TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. UM AND
DIGGING DEEPER. I KNOW. SO
MICHELLE IS HERE. SO MICHELLE
APPLEGATE'S HERE WITH PROJECT
CANARY BUT I BELIEVE HOWARD PEN
OR MATT BAKER HOWARD PEN, MAYBE
HERE WITH PCL AS WELL. DO YOU
WANT TO START? WHY DON'T YOU
START START AND THEN WE'LL SEE
IF YOU PLEASE GO AHEAD. ALRIGHT?
MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE. MY NAME IS MICHELLE
APPLICATOR. I'M THE SENIOR
DIRECTOR OF POLICY FOR PROJECT
CANARY WERE A MISSION DRIVEN B
CORPORATION WITH THE GOAL OF
DECARBONIZATION, THE NATURAL GAS
VALUE CHAIN. SO, WITH THIS BILL
, CALIFORNIA CAN MAKE A NEW AND
SIGNIFICANT IMPACT IN THE BATTLE
FOR CLIMATE AND THEY CAN DO SO
AT MINIMAL COST TO CONSUMERS BY
ACTING TODAY AND TAKING STEPS
TODAY AND ENACTING SB 7 81. IT
WOULD EFFECTIVELY, UM. ENABLE
PROCUREMENT OF LOW EMISSION
NATURAL GAS FOR CALIFORNIA.
MATERIAL REDUCTION IN GREENHOUSE
GAS EMISSIONS CAN BE
ACCOMPLISHED BY STOPPING THE
INTERMITTENT LEAKS THAT OCCUR IN
THE ENERGY SUPPLY CHAIN. WE
BELIEVE THAT YOU CAN'T MANAGE
WHAT YOU CAN'T MEASURE AND THE
BILL BEFORE YOU TODAY WOULD
ESTABLISH CALIFORNIA AS A
NATIONAL AND GLOBAL LEADER BY
USING ITS MARKET POWER. TO
PROCURE NATURAL GAS WITH A
MEASURED LOW METHANE INTENSITY.
ADOPTION AND IMPLEMENTATION OF
SB 7 81. WOULD HAVE THE EFFECT
OF DRIVING THE INDUSTRY TO STOP
THE LEAKS AND STOPPING THE LEAKS
IN THE ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE IS
ACTUALLY THE LOWEST HANGING
FRUIT IN THE BATTLE FOR CLIMATE
CHANGE. IN FACT, ADOPTING THIS
BILL AND THE RESULTING STANDARDS
THAT COME FROM IT. REPRESENTS
THE SINGLE MOST COST EFFECTIVE
CARBON REDUCTION AND CLIMATE
CHANGE MITIGATION AVENUES
AVAILABLE TO THE STATE. THE
PROCUREMENT AND BROAD USE OF LOW
EMISSION NATURAL GAS WILL HAVE A
NEGLIGIBLE IMPACT ON
CALIFORNIA'S RESIDENTIAL AND
COMMERCIAL UTILITY BILLS. FOR
RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS LESS THAN
20 CENTS PER MONTH PER
HOUSEHOLD. FOR EITHER OF THE
STATE'S TWO LARGEST UTILITIES IS
IN ADDITION TO THE LOW COST, THE
ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFITS ARE
SIGNIFICANT. IF THE IMPORTED GAS
CONSUMED IN CALIFORNIA, WAS
PRODUCED WITH A MEASURED METHANE
INTENSITY OF 0.2% INSTEAD OF
1.38% WHICH IS WHAT PDF
ESTIMATES WE COULD DEBATE THE
EQUIVALENT OF ABOUT 36 MILLION
METRIC TONS OF CO TWO, WHICH IS
THE EQUIVALENT OF TAKING 8
MILLION CARS OFF THE ROAD FOR
ONE YEAR IN CALIFORNIA. SO UNTIL
WE NO LONGER USE NATURAL GAS. WE
HAVE THE ABILITY TO DE
CARBONIZED THESE FUEL SOURCES
AND ELIMINATE MILLIONS OF METRIC
TONS OF CO TWO NOW, WHICH IS
WELL AHEAD OF THE STATE'S GOALS
AND GUIDELINES PROJECT CANARY.
THANKS SENATOR STERN FOR
INTRODUCING THIS BILL AND
RESPECTFULLY REQUESTS AND I
VOTE. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY
ADDITIONAL WITNESSES AND SUPPORT
OKAY? UM ALEX LATER ON BEHALF OF
THE PLANNING AND CONSERVATION
LEAGUE. SORRY, THEY COULDN'T BE
HERE TO BE A WITNESS, BUT
THEY'RE IN FULL SUPPORT. THANK
YOU. JANET COX AND SUPPORT ON
BEHALF OF CLIMATE ACTION.
CALIFORNIA SANTA CRUZ CLIMATE
ACTION NETWORK AND THE 3 53 50
SOUTHLAND LEGISLATIVE ALLIANCE,
WHICH IS THE NUMBER OF GROUPS IN
THE LOS ANGELES AREA. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. NEXT, ARE THERE
WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION? SEE
NONE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS
FROM COMMITTEE MEMBERS? I SEE
NONE. I BELIEVE WE HAVE A
MOTION. AND A SECOND MOTION BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S AT A SECOND BY
ASSEMBLY MEMBER. WHAT WOULD YOU
LIKE TO CLOSE? THANK YOU DON'T
WANT TO TALK PAST? YES HERE, SO
I WILL APPRECIATE THE MOTION. UM
ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT, AND
HOPEFULLY WE GET TO A BIPARTISAN
PLACE ON THIS ONE. I REALLY DO
BELIEVE THAT THIS KIND OF
INCENTIVE FRAMEWORK. NOT A
MANDATE ON THE SECTOR, BUT
REALLY JUST TRYING TO GIVE
STANDARDS TO LIFT EVERYONE UP.
UM, CAN GETS A BIG WIN ON
CLIMATE HERE. THAT WON'T COST
MUCH SO THAT I RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR YOUR VOTE. THANK YOU,
SECRETARY. PLEASE TAKE THE ROLL
. THE MOTION IS DUE PAST AS
AMENDED TO UTILITIES AND ENERGY
COMMITTEE MINIBUS. I LEAVE US I
FLORA. FLORIDA. NO, ADDIS ADDIS
I. FRIEDMAN. HOOVER. HOOVER, NO
MASSES. MATH IS NO MARTUCCI.
PELLERIN. PELLERIN. I WARD WOULD
WOULD ICEBERG. YEAH. BILL HAS
FOUR VOTES WILL LEAVE IT ON
CARD. NEXT WE HAVE SENATOR
WIENER SP 2 73. OKAY I HAVE A
MOTION AND A SECOND WHENEVER
YOU'RE READY. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. MADAM CHAIR COLLEAGUES
TODAY AND PRESENTING SENATE BILL
2 73, WHICH WILL AUTHORIZE THE
STATE LAND COMMISSION TO APPROVE
AN IMPORTANT PROJECT AT SAN
FRANCISCO'S DILAPIDATED AND
FALLING INTO THE BAY APPEARS 30
30. THIS PROJECT ONCE APPEAR, IS
REMOVED AND REBUILT. WILL REDUCE
THE PIERS FOOTPRINT BY ALMOST
HALF, SO IT'LL BE A MUCH SMALLER
INTRUSION INTO THE BAY. AH
INCREASING OPEN WATER AND ADDING
SORELY NEEDED PUBLIC AMENITIES
AND PUBLIC SPACES, IMPROVING
HARBOR INFRASTRUCTURE RESILIENCY
ON THE WATERFRONT. IT WILL,
ALONG WITH THE ADJACENT HOUSING
PROJECT CREATES 700 UNITS OF
HOUSING. INCLUDING A SIGNIFICANT
NUMBER OF BELOW MARKET RIGHT
HOMES. AH AND THE PROJECT HAS A
NUMBER OF EXCITING ELEMENTS FOR
THE SAN FRANCISCO WATERFRONT AID
IN ITS REVITALIZATION. IT'LL
FEATURE VISITORS SERVING RETAIL
GENERAL USE OFFICE SPACE DEEP
WATER BIRTHING FACILITY AT A
PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE AQUATIC
CENTER WITH A FLOATING SWIMMING
POOL AND BAY ACCESS. IT ALSO HAS
A STRONG EMERGENCY ACCESS. THE
OFFICE SPACE IN THE PROJECT WILL
FINANCE A SERIOUS THEORIES OF
URGENTLY NEEDED. INFRASTRUCTURE
IMPROVEMENTS, REBUILDING THE
SEAWALL AND PROTECTING OUR
WATERFRONT FROM SEA LEVEL RISE,
WHICH IS A HUGE, HUGE PROBLEM
ALONG THE SAN FRANCISCO
WATERFRONT PIER 30 32 IS ONE OF
THE ONLY NATURALLY SELF SCOURING
DEEPWATER BERTHS AND ONE OF THE
FEW PERIODS THAT CAN ACCOMMODATE
EMERGENCY RESPONSE. IN THE EVENT
OF A MAJOR EARTHQUAKE OR NATURAL
DISASTER, SO IT'S REHABILITATION
IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT JUST TO
BE CLEAR. THIS BILL DOES NOT
APPROVE THE PROJECT. ALL IT DOES
IS ALLOW THE STATE LANDS
COMMISSION TO APPROVE IT. ALLOW
US TO WORK THE CITY TO WORK WITH
A B C D C. AND BY THE WAY, WE
HAVEN'T TAKEN AMENDMENTS WORKING
WITH B. C. D. C. TO KEEP THAT
AGENCY NEUTRAL THE ARMY CORPS OF
ENGINEERS WILL NEED TO SIGN OFF
REGIONAL WATER QUALITY CONTROL
BOARD, IN ADDITION TO THE SAN
FRANCISCO POOR COMMISSION AND
THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS UM, I
WANT TO THANK THE COMMITTEE FOR
ITS ENGAGEMENT ON THIS BILL, AND
, UH, I WANT TO JUST STRESS THAT
THIS IS A REALLY, REALLY
IMPORTANT BILL FOR THE FUTURE OF
OUR WATERFRONT. AND SO WITH
THAT, I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN
I VOTE WITH ME TODAY TO TESTIFY
, IS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF
THE PORTA SAN FRANCISCO ELAINE
FORBES. AND ARE HELD ON HOW
HODGSON WITH THE BOYS AND GIRLS
CLUB OF SAN FRANCISCO, WHO IS
OUR 2023 YOUTH OF THE YEAR, ALSO
AN AVID SWIMMER AND A YOUTH SWIM
COACH. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU SO
MUCH. SENATOR WIENER MEMBERS OF
THE COMMITTEE. I'M ELAINE FORBES
DIRECTOR. SAN FRANCISCO
WATERFRONT FACES A VERY URGENT
THREAT FROM EARTHQUAKE AND SEA
LEVEL RISE OUR HARBOR PROTECTS
OVER 600 ACRES OF THE DOWNTOWN,
CRITICAL IMMUNE E BART
INFRASTRUCTURE, AND WE WERE
URGENTLY LOOKING FOR INVESTMENT
INTO OUR HARBOR. HERE WE HAVE A
PROJECT THAT CAME THROUGH A
COMMUNITY PUB PLANNING PROCESS
THROUGH A COMPETITIVE
SOLICITATION PROCESS THAT
ACTUALLY PROVIDES US $400
MILLION TO REPAIR OUR SEAWALL
AND PREPARE FOR SEA LEVEL RISE
AT A VERY LOW LYING AREA FROM
PRIVATE MONEY FROM PRIVATE
INVESTMENT, AND IN ADDITION TO
THAT, WE GET WONDERFUL AMENITIES
. SENATOR WEINER SPOKE TO THEM,
INCLUDING 700 HOMES, SWIM
FACILITIES, THE COMMUNITY IS
CALLING FOR ACTIVE RECREATION
ALONG THE WATERFRONT. AND SWIM
IS SUCH A WONDERFUL AMENITY OF
SAN FRANCISCO. YOU'LL BE HEARING
MORE ABOUT THAT. SO MY TEAM AND
I JUST COULD NOT BE MORE PROUD
TO BRING A PROJECT THAT REALLY
MAKES SENSE IN THIS PART OF THE
WATERFRONT THAT REALLY ADDS
AMENITIES AND HELPS US PREPARE
FOR SEA LEVEL RISE. IT'S VERY
HARD TO FIND ALL THE FINANCING
NECESSARY TO DO THIS BIG JOB. SO
I'M VERY THRILLED TO BE HERE
TODAY, AND I WANT TO THANK IN
PARTICULAR, OF COURSE, SENATOR
WIENER FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP ON
OUR FIRST BOND TO WORK ON THIS
PROBLEM, WHICH WAS 4 25 MILLION
AND THIS PROJECT, WHICH IS
ALMOST THE SAME AMOUNT IN ONE
LOCATION, SO WE'RE MAKING
PROGRESS. THANK YOU, SENATOR. A
WINNER. HI, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS
ON HILL. I'M A MEMBER OF THE
BOYS AND GIRLS COAST SAN
FRANCISCO. MY SUPPORT FOR HIS
LEGISLATION DOESN'T MEAN THAT
I'M FULLY UNDERSTANDING OF
SUPPORT FOR THIS PROJECT. BUT
I'M HERE ENTHUSIASTICALLY TO ACT
TO HAVE BETTER ACCESS TO FIRST
RATE FACILITIES FOR THE OVERALL
PUBLIC, IN PARTICULAR LOW INCOME
FOR CITIES AND COMMUNITIES OF
PEOPLE OF COLOR FOR THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. UM PEOPLE OF COLOR
WHO HAS HISTORICALLY BEEN
EXCLUDED FROM OPPORTUNITIES TO
LEARN TO SWIM AND TO SWIM,
COMPARED LEE MORE GREAT POOLS
ARE VERY VALUABLE IN MY OPINION.
I'VE BEEN AN ACTIVE MEMBER OF
THE AQUATICS BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB
SINCE I WAS SIX YEARS OLD. WHEN
I WAS IN MIDDLE SCHOOL, MY
FAMILY AND I EXPERIENCED
HOMELESSNESS AND HAD TO MOVE IN
OAKLAND WITH MY UNCLE ON THE
FLOOR OF A NINE BY 12, MY MOM
AND MY THREE SISTERS. DESPITE
ALL THESE CHANGES, I KNEW I
COULD ALWAYS COME BACK TO THE
CLUB. SWIMMING AT THE CLUB
CHANGED MY LIFE. MY COACHES
JONATHAN AND CLAUDIO ARE ALWAYS
THERE FOR ME. FROM THE BEGINNING
. THE POOR HAS ALWAYS BEEN
THERAPEUTIC FOR ME, NO MATTER
WHAT LIFE THREATENED ME.
SWIMMING TAUGHT ME TAKE ONE LAP
AT A TIME TO FOCUS ON THE
MOMENT. THE CLUB WAS A HOME AWAY
FROM HOME. I ALWAYS KNOW IF YOU
WELCOME THEIR OPEN ARMS AND I
WOULD BE ABLE TO PART OF THE
TEAM AND THE COMMUNITY. THE MORE
GONE TO SWIMMING, THE MORE I
REALIZED THEY'RE NOT LOST
SWIMMERS THAT LOOK LIKE ME.
REPRESENTATION MATTERS. LOOKING
BACK AT THE YEAR AS A TEAM
PHOTOS THERE ONLY A FEW SWIMMERS
THAT LOOK LIKE ME. THAT IS WHY I
WANTED TO BE A ROLE MODEL FOR
THE KIDS IN THE POOL WHO THEY
CAN SEE A FAMILIAR FACE IN THE
NEW ENVIRONMENT. BY JOINING THE
SWIM STAFF IN MY CLUBHOUSE. I'M
COACHING THE NEXT GENERATION OF
SWIMMERS AND I BECAME THE PERSON
I WANT TO SEE IN THE POLL
GROWING UP. THANK YOU FOR
LISTENING TO MY STORY AS A SAN
FRANCISCO YOUTH, I AM PLEASED TO
SHARE HOW ACCESS IS STRONG
AQUATICS PROGRAMS AND POOR
FACILITIES MADE SUCH A GREAT
IMPACT ON MY LIFE. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY
ADDITIONAL WITNESSES AND SUPPORT
. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS
COMMITTEE JEREMY SMITH AND ON
BEHALF OF THE STATE BUILDING AND
CONSTRUCTION TRADES COUNCIL AND
OUR SAN FRANCISCO BUILDING,
TRADES COUNCIL AND STRONG
SUPPORT. ARE THERE ANY WITNESSES
AND OPPOSITION? SEE NONE ANY
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM
COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S ADDIS. SO I
WANT TO THANK YOUR WITNESS. YOU
HAVE WONDERFUL WITNESSES HERE
TODAY AND CONGRATULATIONS ON
YOUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS A
SWIMMER AND APPRECIATE THE
PROJECT AND YOUR CLARIFICATION
COMING FROM A COMMUNITY THAT
ALSO HAS WATERFRONT IN THE
THAILAND'S TRUST THAT IS
STRUGGLING. I KNOW HOW HARD
THESE PROJECTS CAN BE AND WANT
TO APPRECIATE YOUR CLARIFICATION
THAT YOU'RE TAKING A LOOK AT THE
PROJECT OR THAT THIS BILL IS
ALLOWING STATE LANDS TO LOOK
MORE DEEPLY AT THE PROJECT, NOT
NECESSARILY APPROVING IT. SO
APPRECIATE THAT PIECE OF IT, AND
THE CLARIFICATION AND WORKING
WITH THE OPPOSITION.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S FLORA. THANK
YOU CHAIR AND JUST TO YOUR
WITNESS. FOR THE MEMBERS. I
SPOKE WITH HIM A LITTLE BIT
EARLIER. IT'S HIS FIRST TIME TO
COME TO THE CAPITAL AND TO COME
TO THE CAPITAL AND TESTIFYING.
THE COMMITTEE IS KIND OF BADASS.
SO WELL DONE. AND UH SO I'M
SUPER PROUD OF YOU FOR THAT, BUT
I ALSO WANT TO SAY SOMETHING TO
THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUBS. I
THINK THEY ARE THE UNSUNG HEROES
OF OUR COMMUNITIES AND WHATEVER
WE CAN DO TO SUPPORT THESE CLUBS
IS TREMENDOUSLY BENEFICIAL FOR
FOLKS LIKE YOURSELF, AND I JUST
APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THEM UP.
AND WE'RE SHOWING YOUR SUPPORT
TO HIM AND LOOK FORWARD TO
SUPPORTING THIS BILL. SO THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. AND THE OTHER
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. OKAY FOR
YEAH. I ALSO WANT TO THANK ON
HILL FOR BEING HERE AND
TESTIFYING AND SHARING YOUR
STORY. UM, IT'S ALWAYS GREAT
WHEN WE GET A YOUNG PERSON FROM
THE COMMUNITY THAT WILL DIRECTLY
BENEFIT COME IN AND SHARE THOSE
STORIES WITH US. SO THANK YOU
FOR BEING HERE AND OUR COMMITTEE
AND I'M GLAD NATURAL RESOURCES
WAS YOUR FIRST COMMITTEE. I'M
SURE IT WON'T BE THE LAST THAT
YOU WILL TESTIFY. IT. OKAY THANK
YOU FOR BRINGING THIS MEASURE
FORWARD, UM, IN FULL SUPPORT.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE? I
APPRECIATE A MAN. SURE. THANK
YOU. COLLEAGUES I'M REALLY
EXCITED THAT THIS WHAT HAS
BECOME A DERELICT PART OF OUR
WATERFRONT LITERALLY FOLLOWING
IN THE BAY HAS A FUTURE AND I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN I VOTE.
THANKS WE HAVE A MOTION AND A
SECOND SECRETARY. PLEASE TAKE
THE ROLL. THE MOTION IS DO PASS
THROUGH APPROPRIATIONS. GRIEVOUS
I RIVAS I FLORA FLORA I ADDIS.
AYE, FRIEDMAN. HOOVER HOOVER. I.
MATHIS MATHIS MURATSUCHI.
PELLERIN PELLERIN. I WARD WOULD
WOULD ICEBERG. MRS BIRD? AYE.
THANK YOU COLLEAGUES. THAT BILL
HAS EIGHT. I WISEMAN LEAVE IT
OPEN FOR ABSENT MEMBERS. NEXT
UP. SENATOR CABALLERO WITH SB
447.
4 38. I'M SORRY. SB 4 38
CABALLERO WHENEVER YOU'RE READY,
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT SB 4
38. THERE HAVE BEEN RECENT MEDIA
REPORTS REGARDING THE INTENT OF
4 38 FILLED WITH MISLEADING
INFORMATION AND INCREDULOUS
ACCUSATION. ACCUSATIONS ABOUT MY
INTEGRITY. I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE
THIS OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE CLEAR
WHAT MY INTENT IS, AS I AM THE
AUTHOR AND THE ONLY PERSON WHO
MAKES THE FINAL DECISION ON
POLICY LANGUAGE. UM OBVIOUSLY
WITH THE HELP OF COMMITTEES. IN
NO WAY, SHAPE OR FORM. AM I
GOING TO ALLOW ANY LOBBYISTS OR
INDUSTRY TO HIJACK MY BILL FOR
THEIR OWN USE? THIS IS NOT HOW I
CONDUCT MY BUSINESS, AND MY TIME
IN THE LEGISLATURE HAS SHOWN
THAT I ENGAGE IN A TRANSPARENT
AND COLLABORATIVE MANNER. FOR
THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AND
THE PRESS. THAT IS NOT HOW THE
LEGISLATIVE PROCESS WORKS. MY
OFFICE HAS ALWAYS ENGAGED IN AN
OPEN MANNER TO SEEK
COLLABORATION AND COMPROMISE. IT
WOULD BEST SERVE MY CONSTITUENTS
AND ULTIMATELY, THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA. CARBON CAPTURE,
REMOVAL AND UTILIZATION STORAGE
PROJECTS ARE MUCH NEEDED IF WE
ARE TO ACHIEVE CALIFORNIA'S
CLIMATE CHANGE GOALS THESE
PROJECTS ARE PART OF THE
AMBITIOUS GHG. CARBON NEUTRAL
BRIDGE THAT CAN BRING A COMPLETE
CLEAN ENERGY ECONOMY WITH GOOD
JOBS WHILE CREATING ECONOMIC
PROSPERITY FOR RESIDENTS IN THE
CENTRAL VALLEY AND IN MY
DISTRICT. AND THIS BILL IS VERY
SIMPLE. THE BILL CLARIFIES THAT
THE UNINTENDED EXPRESSION OF
RESIDUAL OIL THAT MAY OCCUR
DURING CARBON CAPTURE
SEQUESTRATION IS NOT ENHANCED
OIL RECOVERY. AND NUMBER TWO. IT
CREATES A REPORTING MECHANISM TO
REPORT AND TRACK THEIR
OCCURRENCE SO THAT WE KNOW WHEN
THEY'RE HAPPENING AND WHERE AND
CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
HOWEVER TO ALLEVIATE THE
CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN
CIRCULATING ABOUT THE FUTURE
INTENT OF THIS BILL. I HAVE
DECIDED ASK THE CHAIR TO HOLD
THE BILL TODAY AND TO MAKE IT A
TWO YEAR BILL. BUT TAKE MY WORD
FOR IT. I WILL BE BACK AND THE
REASON IS BECAUSE WE ABSOLUTELY
NEED, UM, THIS KIND OF MOVEMENT
IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO DO CARBON
CAPTURE SEQUESTRATION. THANK YOU
FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE
THESE COMMENTS, MADAM CHAIR AND
I RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT YOU HOLD
THE BILL. THANK YOU, SENATOR FOR
ADDRESSING. UH THAT ARTICLE THAT
WAS RECENTLY PUBLISHED ABOUT
YOUR BILL. UH YOU AND I HAD A
CONVERSATION BEFORE THAT WAS OUT
BECAUSE THE REPORTER DID REACH
OUT TO ME FOR COMMENT. I DON'T
COMMENT. ON BILLS THAT I TALKED
TO THE AUTHOR DIRECTLY. AND WHEN
YOU AND I SAT DOWN, YOU SAID
THAT THAT WAS NOT YOUR INTENTION
TO GUT AND AMEND THIS BILL TO DO
SOMETHING THAT WE AGREED TO IN A
DEAL LAST YEAR AS PART OF THE
CLIMATE PACKAGE, WHICH HAS TO DO
WITH PIPELINE SAFETY, UM AND
THIS. YOU KNOW THIS ARTICLE? I
SAYS THAT YOU WERE GOING TO OR A
LOBBYIST WAS GOING TO CHANGE
YOUR BILL AND TO UNDO OUR
AGREEMENT FROM LAST YEAR AND I
KNOW YOU AND I SAT DOWN. AND YOU
SAID THAT THAT WAS NOT YOUR
INTENTION. THEN THEN THAT YOU
WOULD NOT DO THAT. UM AND SO
IT'S UP TO YOU TO MAKE THIS A
TWO YEAR BILL, BUT, UM, THANK
YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT THIS WAS
NOT THE INTENTION OF YOUR BILL
AND MAKING IT CLEAR THAT YOU ARE
THE AUTHOR AND YOU MAKE THE
DECISIONS. ON THE CONTENT OF
YOUR BILL. MADAME CHAIR. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT. I THINK
PART OF THE PART OF THE
CHALLENGE FROM MY PERSPECTIVE IS
THAT THE ISSUES ABOUT PIPELINE
SAFETY AND THE ISSUE ABOUT UNITY
IZATION, WHICH IS WHO OWNS THE
LAND ABOVE AND WHO OWNS THE
MINERAL RIGHTS BELOW THAT THOSE
WERE UNRESOLVED AS WELL AND THAT
THE ADMINISTRATION AS WELL AS
MYSELF WERE WORKING ON WHAT
WOULD IT LOOK LIKE TO PUT
SOMETHING THOSE TWO IDEAS INTO A
BILL AND THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING
ON THAT? UM WITH ALL THE
STAKEHOLDERS, UM, BUT THAT WAS
NOT THIS BILL. AND SO THE
ALLEGATION WAS THAT THAT WHAT
THAT PART THAT WE'RE WORKING ON
? UNIT IZATION AND PIPELINE
SAFETY WAS GOING TO GET SNUCK IN
THIS BILL SOMEHOW AND EITHER
TAKEN AWAY FROM ME OR ELSE I HAD
A ULTERIOR MOTIVE, AND I JUST
WANTED TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR.
THAT STILL HAS TO BE RESOLVED.
WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT UM, LONG
TERM WHAT? WHAT HAPPENS WITH
THOSE TWO ITEMS, BUT IT WASN'T
MY BILL. AND, UM AND IF. IF
WE'RE HAVING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT
ISSUES THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF A
BILL AND THEY GET IN PUNE TO THE
PERSON LIKE THERE'S A SNEAK
ATTACK COMING, IT'S REALLY
DETRIMENTAL TO OUR PROCESS.
BECAUSE THEN IT GETS EVERYBODY
GENDER UP ABOUT WHAT TO REALLY
GOING ON. AND I THINK THAT FROM
MY PERSPECTIVE. I WANTED IT TO
BE VERY CLEAR. I'M HAVING THOSE
CONVERSATIONS. YES WE HAVE TO
WORK ON PIPELINE SAFETY AND UNIT
IZATION, BUT THAT'S NOT THIS
BILL. OKAY SO I MEAN, ANY
DECISION THAT GETS MADE IN THE
FUTURE? OF COURSE THIS IS THOSE
ISSUES ARE WITHIN THE
JURISDICTION OF THIS COMMITTEE
AND OF MYSELF AND THE COMMITTEE
MEMBERS WILL HAVE A SAY, ALSO
RIGHT IN IN THE FUTURE, BILL, IF
YOU DO, UH, BRING THAT FORWARD
AND IN THE FUTURE I BELIEVE
THERE'S SOME WITNESSES EITHER IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION. SINCE
THEY MAY HAVE TRAVELED, YOU KNOW
, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT YOU WERE
GOING TO MAKE THIS A TWO YEAR
BILL. UM AND WE DO HAVE SOME
WITNESSES HERE THAT CAME FROM A
LONG DISTANCE AND I JUST WANT TO
MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE A
CHANCE TO TESTIFY EITHER IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION. WE'LL
START WITH IS WAS THEIR SUPPORT.
FOR THIS BILL. YOU DIDN'T HAVE A
WITNESS AND SUPPORT. WE DID NOT
ASK THE CASHLESS, MAYBE
OPPOSITION.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE AND
THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO
SPEAK TODAY AND APPRECIATE THE
SENATOR PUTTING THE BEARD THE
BELT TO BE TO YOUR BELT. MY NAME
IS DAN RESTS AND I'M A STAFF
ATTORNEY FOR THE CENTER ON RACE,
POVERTY AND THE ENVIRONMENT.
ALSO SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE
CENTRAL VALLEY, AIR QUALITY,
COLLECT COALITION AND THE
CLIMATE CENTER. CRP IS A
COMMUNITY BASED ORGANIZATION,
THE SAN JOAQUIN VALLEY WHERE WE
PROVIDE COMMUNITIES WITH
ORGANIZING, TECHNICAL AND LEGAL
SUPPORT IN THE FIGHT FOR
ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE. OUTWARDLY
SP 4 38 IS INTENDED TO CLARIFY
THE PROHIBITION AND ENHANCED OIL
RECOVERY USING CAPTURED CARBON
THE E G ADVOCATES SECURED LAST
YEAR THROUGH TOUGH NEGOTIATIONS.
IT'S LEGAL IMPACTS ARE LIKELY TO
BE MINIMAL. BUT THE GOAL IS TO
SPEED INVESTMENT IN CARBON
CAPTURE, USE AND STORAGE OR CC
US. THAT'S A BAD IDEA BECAUSE BY
AND LARGE CC US DELAYS,
MEANINGFUL CLIMATE ACTION AND
CAUSES LOCAL HARMS. INSTEAD OF
PHASING OUT SOURCES OF CLIMATE
CRITERIA AND TOXIC AIR POLLUTION
, CCS WOULD SUBSIDIZE THEM
INVITING INVESTMENT EXPANSION
AND CONTINUED OPERATION FOR
DECADES. OUR CLIMATE AND OUR
COMMUNITIES CANNOT AFFORD TO
STUMBLE INTO THIS DEAD END THIS
LATEST TACTIC FROM FOSSIL FUEL
COMPANIES PLAYBOOK. BUT DON'T
JUST TAKE MY WORD. THAT CCS IS A
CYNICAL PLOY BY FOSSIL FUEL
COMPANIES TO SUBVERT OUR STATE
CLIMATE POLICY. LISTEN TO THEIR
OWN LOBBYIST THEO POWERHOUSE.
WHO REPRESENTS AN OIL INDUSTRY
TRADE GROUPS, ABOUT SPEAKING
WITH UNUSUAL CANDIDATE TO
CAPITAL AND MAIN BUT HOUSE SAID
THEY THAT THEY DON'T WANT
ENVIRONMENTALISTS TO SEE WHAT
THEY'RE UP TO, AND THAT THEY ARE
DELIBERATELY MISS ADRIN TIES. NG
THAT SELF CHARACTERIZATION COULD
EASILY BE APPLIED TO THE ENTIRE
SCHEME OF C. C. U. S. BUT TO BE
FAIR HOUSE WASN'T SPEAKING ABOUT
ALL CCS, BUT RATHER ABOUT THIS
BILL AS BEFORE 38 THE PLAN TO
GUT AND AMEND THE BILL TO UNDO
THE CARBON, THE MORATORIUM AND
CARBON PIPELINES THAT EJ
ADVOCATES ONE IN THE SAME TOUGH
NEGOTIATIONS. CARBON PIPELINES
AREN'T DANGEROUS AND UNDER A
REGULATED AFTER 2020 PIPELINE
RUPTURE INTO TURCHIN MISSISSIPPI
HOSPITAL IS MORE PEOPLE THAN
LIVED IN THE TOWN. THE FEDERAL
REGULATOR FOUND THAT ITS OWN LAX
REGULATIONS WERE PARTIALLY TO
BLAME, AND IT STARTED A NEW RULE
MAKING IN RESPONSE. UNDER
CURRENT REGULATIONS, ANOTHER
DISASTER IS LIKELY AND NEXT TIME
IT COULD HAPPEN IN A POPULATION
CENTER LIKE ARVIN, BAKERSFIELD,
OR L, A POTENTIALLY, IT'S
FIXATING AND KILLING HUNDREDS.
SO DURING THE CLIMATE PACKAGE
NEGOTIATIONS LAST AUGUST, THE
LEGISLATURE PUT IN PLACE THIS
MORATORIUM UNTIL THE FEDERAL
RULEMAKING CONCLUDES ALLOWING
SPEAKS FOR STAKEHOLDERS TO COME
TOGETHER AND TIME FOR MORE
RESEARCH. MANY LEGISLATORS
WOULDN'T HAVE VOTED FOR THE
PACKAGE. BUT FOR THE MAJORITY
MORATORIUM MOVING THE NEGOTIATED
MORATORIUM IS WHAT'S SIMPLE IS
QUIETLY TRYING TO PROFIT FROM BY
SUBVERTING THE LEGISLATIVE
PROCESS THAT IS UNACCEPTABLE,
WHETHER THROUGH A GUT AND AMEND
OR THROUGH A BUDGET TRAILER BILL
. ANOTHER STRATEGY THEY'RE
PURSUING AS WE SPEAK, EVEN
THOUGH IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH
THE BUDGET, FRONTLINE
COMMUNITIES NEED THIS PROTECTION
AND WE NEED LEGISLATORS LIKE
YOURSELVES TO DEFEND IT. AND WE
NEED TO REFRAIN FROM ADDING TO
THE RUSH TO C C U S. YES. AS
SUCH, WE RESPECTFULLY, UH, WELL
ACTUALLY APPRECIATE THE SENATOR
PULLING THE BILL FOR THIS YEAR,
UM, AND LOOK FORWARD TO BEING
ADDED TO THE GROUP OF
STAKEHOLDERS ENGAGED AS YOU'RE
TALKING ABOUT PIPELINE SAFETY.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY.
WELL, THANK YOU. UM SENATOR FOR
LETTING US KNOW ABOUT YOUR
DECISION TO MAKE THIS A TWO YEAR
BILL. UM YOU KNOW. THANK YOU.
APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.
COMMENTS OR VOTE? YEP. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT WE'RE READY
FOR SB 5 83 BY SENATOR PADILLA.
WHENEVER YOU'RE READY. ALL
RIGHT. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR
AND COLLEAGUES. I'M PLEASED TO
PRESENT SB 5 83, WHICH WOULD
ESTABLISH THE SALTON SEA
CONSERVANCY. I WANT TO BEGIN BY
THANKING THE CHAIR OF THE
COMMITTEE STAFF FOR WORKING WITH
MY OFFICE AND WE ARE ACCEPTING
THE COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS
PROFFERED IN THE ANALYSIS, AS
MANY OF YOU MAY KNOW, THE SALTON
SEA IS FOR DECADES, AND IN
RECENT YEARS, MUCH MORE ACUTELY
, PROBABLY THE WORST ECONOMIC,
ECOLOGICAL, ENVIRONMENTAL AND
PUBLIC HEALTH AND ECONOMIC
DISASTER IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA. THAT DIRECTLY
IMPACTS ONE OF THE MOST UNDER
INVESTED, UM, OVERLOOKED
COMMUNITIES OF COLOR THAT HAS
KNOWN NOTHING BUT EXPLOITATION
IN MANY, MANY DECADES UNLESS
SUBSTANTIAL EFFORTS ARE
UNDERTAKEN TO ADDRESS THIS
CRISIS TO BUILD ON THE
AGREEMENTS AND THE INVESTMENTS
THAT THIS STATE HAS MADE
SUBSTANTIALLY IN THE REMEDIATION
AND RESTORATION OF THIS AREA.
CONTINUED ENVIRONMENTAL AND
PUBLIC HEALTH IMPACT IMPACTS
WILL CONTINUE UNABATED. IN SHORT
RECENTLY BECAUSE OF THE COLORADO
RIVER COMPACT, THE SHRINKAGE OF
THE SALTON SEA WILL ACCELERATE
OVER THE NEXT DECADE TO A LEVEL
THAT WILL GET AHEAD OF EARLIER
PROJECTIONS BY A DECADE, FURTHER
EXPOSING DRY TOXIC LAKE BED,
WHICH THEN BECOMES AEROSOLIZED
AND CONTRIBUTES TO AN
EXCEEDINGLY UNHEALTHY AIR
QUALITY. ON TOP OF THE OTHER
CHALLENGES THAT THIS PART OF OUR
STATE ALREADY FACES. UM THE
GOVERNOR'S BUDGET, UH, ALREADY
HAS SWEPT BACK OVER $169 MILLION
FROM THE STATE BUDGET DIRECTED
AT THE SALTON SEA RESTORATION
EFFORTS, BUT THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT HAS PLEDGED OVER 233
MILLION FOR RESTORATION EFFORTS
AT THE SEA AND MY HOPE AS WE
MOVE OTHER LEGISLATION FORWARD
ON RESOURCE BONDS THAT THIS WILL
RECEIVE THE APPROPRIATE
ATTENTION. IT'S DESERVING OF
WHICH THERE HMM. FUNDING THE
NATURAL RESOURCES AGENCY WILL BE
DIRECTING AND LEADING
REMEDIATION EFFORTS AND WORKING
WITH LOCAL STAKEHOLDERS. THIS
BILL CREATES THE SALTON SEA
CONSERVANCY, WHICH FOR THE FIRST
TIME WELL INVOLVE LOCAL
STAKEHOLDERS REPRESENTING
SPECIAL DISTRICTS, COUNTIES,
ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE
ORGANIZATIONS AND OTHERS AT THE
SAME TABLE WITH THE STATE
INSTRUMENT THAT IS BOTH LIABLE
AND RESPONSIBLE FOR IMPLEMENTING
THE RESTORATION OF THE SALTON
SEA. IT WILL STRENGTHEN THEIR
VOICES, AS HAS NOT BEEN POSSIBLE
TODAY. LOCAL STAKEHOLDERS ARE
CRITICAL TO THE SUCCESS OF
RESTORATION EFFORTS AT THE
SALTON SEA. CALIFORNIA HAS AN
EXEMPLARY RECORD. CONSERVANCY'S
UP AND DOWN THE STATE THAT
PROVIDES FOCUS LEVERAGING OF
FUNDING, BETTER COORDINATION AND
COLLABORATION AROUND ENTITLEMENT
WITH LOCAL, STATE AND FEDERAL
REGULATORY AGENCIES AND THE
ABILITY TO COLLECT, DISTRIBUTE
AND LEVERAGE ADDITIONAL FUNDS.
IT IS LONG PAST DUE THAT THIS
PART OF THE STATE BENEFIT FROM A
CONSERVANCY DIRECTED AT THE
RESTORATION OF THE SALTON SEA.
SB 5 83 HAS HAD ZERO NO VOTES.
AND MADAM CHAIR WITH ME TODAY IS
FRANK RUIZ FROM AUTOBAHN AND
FOLLOWING HIS TESTIMONY, I WOULD
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN I VOTE.
MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE. MY NAME IS FRANK
REESE AND I AM THE SALTON SEA
PROGRAM DIRECTOR AND THE
CALIFORNIA THIS OR PROGRAM
DIRECTOR FOR AUDUBON,
CALIFORNIA. AND ALSO A MEMBER OF
THE SAN C COMMUNITY. SOMEONE WHO
IS LEADING THE SECOND LARGEST
HABITAT RESTORATION OF THE C. I
AM HERE IN SUPPORT OF THE SOUND
C CONSERVATIVE, SEE BILL. AS WE
5 83. THIS CONSERVANCY WILL
CONSOLIDATE THE AGENCY
RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SOUND SEE
RESTORATION. AND HELP EXPEDITE
THE PROJECTS. THE IMPLEMENTATION
. LAWCENTER PADILLA FOR HIS
LEADERSHIP IN LEADING THIS
INITIATIVE, AND FOR THE WORK
THAT CONTINUES IN BRINGING ALL
THE STAKEHOLDERS TOGETHER. THE
SONG SCENE NEEDS LONG TERM
MANAGEMENT THAT IS A STRONGLY
GUIDED BY LOCAL VOICES AND
LEADERSHIP. THIS CONSERVANCY
WILL ENABLE THE STATE TO MEET
ITS LEGAL OBLIGATIONS AND
REACHING HIS MILESTONES AND
PROVIDING HABITAT FOR THE MARKET
, ORI BIRDS AND WILDLIFE AND SER
PRESIDENT. RAPID EXPOSURE A
PLAYER EXPECTED AS A RESULT OF
THE COLORADO RIVER REDUCTIONS.
IN ADDITION, IT WILL ENSURE THAT
BIOLOGICAL MONITORING OR THE C
CONTINUES THE COMMUNITY
ENGAGEMENT IS A PRIORITY AND THE
FUNDING ALLOCATED IN A SYSTEMIC
MANNER COMES ALONG. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE THAT.
THANK YOU NEXT. ARE THERE
ADDITIONAL WITNESSES IN SUPPORT?
GOOD AFTERNOON, ERIN WOOLY ON
BEHALF OF SIERRA CLUB,
CALIFORNIA. WE'VE ALL SUPPORTING
CONCEPT POSITION. KIM DELFINO ON
BEHALF OF PACIFIC INSTITUTE AND
SUPPORTING CONCEPT. HI GOOD
AFTERNOON. MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS,
ALFREDO MEDINA HERE ON BEHALF OF
THE IMPERIAL IRRIGATION
DISTRICT. AND WHILE I D HAD A
SUPPORTIVE AMENDED FOR ON THE
BILL IMPRINT. WE WOULD LIKE TO
THANK THE AUTHOR FOR HIS
CONTINUED WORK. WE LOOK FORWARD
TO OUR MEETING THIS WEEKEND IN
THE DISTRICT AND MORE
IMPORTANTLY, WOULD LIKE TO THANK
HIM FOR HIS LEADERSHIP IN
ENSURING THAT THE PRESERVATION
AND RESTORATION OF THE SALTON
SEA IS A PRIORITY. THANK YOU.
NEXT ARE THERE WITNESSES AND
OPPOSITION.
MADAM CHAIRPERSON MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE. MY NAME IS PATRICK O.
DOWD AND I'M, THE EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR OF THE SALTON SEA
AUTHORITY ROLE I'VE HELD FOR THE
LAST 2.5 YEARS. PRIOR TO THAT I
SERVED ON THE SALTON SEA
AUTHORITY BOARD FOR THE PREVIOUS
SIX YEARS AS A REPRESENTATIVE.
OF THE COACHELLA VALLEY WATER
DISTRICT, WHERE I SERVED AS A
DIRECTOR. I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT
OF THE COACHELLA VALLEY FOR OVER
25 YEARS. I WANT TO START BY
THANKING THE SENATOR PADILLA FOR
HIS BOLD EFFORTS. RIGHT OUT OF
THE BOX TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS
IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND THIS BILL
CERTAINLY IS BOLD. THE SALTON
SEA AUTHORITY POURED NOT LONG
AGO TOOK AN OPPOSING LESS
AMENDED POSITION ON THIS BILL.
BUT SINCE THAT TIME WE HAVE BEEN
AN ACTIVE, PRODUCTIVE
DISCUSSIONS WITH THE AUTHOR ON
AMENDMENTS THAT WOULD ADDRESS
OUR CONCERNS AND BELIEVE WE HAVE
MADE ENORMOUS PROGRESS. AS A
RESULT, WE THINK THE BILL SHOULD
MOVE FORWARD AT THIS TIME. AS WE
CONTINUE OUR DISCUSSIONS. WE
LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THE
SENATOR ON THIS AND OTHER
IMPORTANT ISSUES, AND I'M HAPPY
TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK
YOU ARE THERE ADDITIONAL
WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION? MADAM
SHERIFF. SORRY, STEVENS FOR THE
COACH AT ALL THE WATER DISTRICT
. I'M AFRAID MY TWEENER SO THE
DISTRICT LODGED OPPOSITION, BUT
THAT WAS PRIOR TO THE SENATE
AMENDMENTS. THOSE AMENDMENTS
ADDRESSED KEY POINTS IN THE
LETTER, BUT THEY HAVE NOT HAD
THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVISIT THAT
POSITION. THEY WILL TOMORROW. SO
THIS TIME, I THINK ALL I CAN SAY
IS THAT A FLAT OPPOSED NO LONGER
REPRESENTS THE ATTITUDE OF THE
BOARD OF CBW. D. THANK YOU.
MADAM CHAIR MARK FINSTER, MAKER
FOR THE COLA CHALLAH VALLEY
CONSERVATION COMMISSION. WE DO
HAVE AN OPPOSED POSITION. WE ARE
LOOKING INTO THE AMENDMENTS
BEING TAKEN, AS WAS DISCUSSIONS
GOING ON BETWEEN THE AUTHORITY
AND THE AUTHOR, AND WE'LL LOOK
FORWARD TO UPDATING OUR
POSITION. IF NECESSARY. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT. WE'LL
BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM
COMMITTEE MEMBERS? BESIDES THE
MOTION BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S WOULD
SECOND BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
PELLERIN. OKAY. SEE NONE. WOULD
YOU LIKE TO CLOSE MADAM CHAIR?
THANK YOU FOR THE COMMITTEE'S
INTERACTION AND GOOD
RECOMMENDATIONS, AND I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR MY VOTE.
THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION AND
A SECOND SECRETARY. PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL. THE MOTION IS DUE PAST
AS AMENDED TO APPROPRIATIONS.
RIVAS RIVAS I FLORA. FLORA. NO,
ADDIS! ADDIS I. FRIEDMAN.
HOOVER. NOT BAD. NOT VOTING.
MATHIS MURATSUCHI. PELLERIN
PELLERIN. I WARD WOULD WOULD I
EVER SPUR. AYE. THAT BILL HAS
FIVE VOTES WILL LEAVE IT ON
CALL. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
I'M NEXT. WE'RE READY FOR
SENATOR DODD, SP 3 10. FOURTH
PERIOD. WHENEVER YOU'RE READY,
SENATOR, THANKS, MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS. I'M PRESENTING SP 3 10
PERTAINING TO CULTURAL BURNING.
I'M ACCEPTING THE SUGGESTED
AMENDMENT AND THE COMMITTEE
ANALYSIS AND THANK THE
CONSULTANT VERY MUCH FOR WORKING
WITH MY STAFF SP 3 10 WOULD
RECOGNIZE TRIBAL SOVEREIGNTY
WITH RESPECT TO CULTURAL BURNING
PRACTICES DEFINED AS THE
INTENTIONAL APPLICATION OF FIRE
BY CULTURAL FIRE PRACTITIONERS
TO ACHIEVE CULTURAL GOALS AND
OBJECTIVES. THIS BILL WOULD VEST
AUTHORITY IN THE SECRETARY OF
NATURAL RESOURCES TO DECIDE IN
RECOGNITION OF TRIBALS.
SOVEREIGNTY CERTAIN STATE
APPROVALS FOR CULTURAL BURNING
MAY BE WAIVED. TRIBES OF NATIVE
PEOPLE OF RETAINED CONTROL AND
SOVEREIGNTY OVER CULTURAL
BURNING SINCE TIME IMMORTAL. IN
MEMORIAL. EXCUSE ME. THE STATE
WILDFIRE. ENFORCED RESILIENCE
TASK FORCE HAS ESTABLISHED IT
WOULD SUPPORT AND ENABLE THE
EXPANSION OF CULTURAL BURNING
FOR THE HEALTH AND WELL BEING OF
ALL COMMUNITIES PURSUANT TO AN
AGREEMENT WITH THE STATE
RESOURCES SECRETARY NATIVE
AMERICAN TRIBES WOULD NOT ONLY
BE ABLE TO CONTINUE THEIR
CULTURAL BURNING PRACTICES. BUT
WOULD ALSO BENEFIT FROM
PROTECTIONS GRANTED TO CERTIFIED
BURN BOSSES AND HAVOC ACCESS TO
THE PRESCRIBED FIRE LIABILITY
PILOT PROGRAM WAS WHICH WAS
ESTABLISHED IN MY SP 9 26 LAST
SESSION. THE BILL SUPPORTED BY A
NUMBER OF ORGANIZATIONS,
INCLUDING THE PACIFIC FOREST
TRUST, DEFENDERS OF WILDLIFE,
THE CALIFORNIA FARM BUREAU ON
THE HUMBOLDT REDWOOD TIMBER
COMPANY, AMONG OTHERS. WITH ME
TODAY IS JENNA ARCHER,
REPRESENTING THE CREW TRIBE AND
ALEXANDRA LOOMER. I HOPE I'VE
GOT THAT RIGHT. OKAY RIGHT.
THANK YOU, REPRESENTING
DEFENDERS OF THE WILDLIFE. UH, I
WILL. I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
YOUR VOTE. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY
NAME IS JENNA ARCHER. AND I'M AN
ATTORNEY WITH SHOOT MCCAULEY AND
WEINBERGER, WHICH IS A PUBLIC
INTEREST LAW FIRM THAT HAS BEEN
REPRESENTING THE KARAOKE TRIBE
FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS WITH
RESPECT TO CULTURAL BURNING
ISSUES, AND TODAY WE ASK FOR
YOUR VOTE ON SP 3 10. TRIBES OF
NATIVE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE
PRACTICE CULTURAL BURNING. SINCE
TIME IN MEMORIAL. IT IS USED TO
STEWARD PLANTS USED FOR BASKET
WEAVING, FOOD AND MEDICINE. IT
IS USED TO CREATE AND MAINTAIN
HABITAT FOR IMPORTANT SPECIES
SUCH AS ELK AND SALMON, AND IT
REDUCES THE RISK OF CATASTROPHIC
WILDFIRE BY REDUCING FUEL LOADS
AND CREATING RESILIENT
ECOSYSTEMS. TRIBES ARE
KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT CULTURAL
BURNING AND HAVE NEVER CEDED
CONTROL OR SOVEREIGNTY OVER
CULTURAL BURNING. SB 3 10 WOULD
FORMALLY RECOGNIZED TRIBAL
SOVEREIGNTY WITH RESPECT TO
CULTURAL BURNING. IT WOULD
ENABLE THE SECRETARY OF NATURAL
RESOURCES TO ENTER INTO
AGREEMENTS WITH FEDERALLY
RECOGNIZED CALIFORNIA TRIBES IN
ORDER TO COORDINATE CULTURAL
BURNING ACTIVITIES ON THEIR
ANCESTRAL TERRITORIES.
SPECIFICALLY THE SECRETARY WOULD
BE AUTHORIZED TO FIND STATE
PERMITS ISSUED BY CAL FIRE AND
AIR DISTRICTS WOULD NOT BE
REQUIRED FOR CULTURAL BURNING
PROGRAMS INSTEAD, POTENTIAL.
HEALTH AND SAFETY ISSUES WILL BE
HANDLED BY TRIBAL LAW IN
COORDINATION WITH THE STATE.
REGARDING AIR QUALITY. THE BILL
REQUIRES THAT TRIBES WORK WITH
THE SECRETARY OF THE
ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY
, WHICH OVERSEES CARBS AND LOCAL
AIR DISTRICTS TO ENSURE
COORDINATION WITH CARB AND AIRED
RESTRICTS ON SMOKE IMPACT AND SB
3 10 INCLUDES A SMALL BUT
MEANINGFUL EXPANSION OF 2021
LEGISLATION ON PRESCRIBED FIRE
LIABILITY. UM SB 3 32, ALSO
OTHER BY SENATOR DODD MADE IT
LESS LIKELY PRIVATE LANDOWNERS
OR NONPROFITS WOULD RECEIVE
SUPPRESSION COSTS BILLS IF THEY
NEEDED HELP. WITH ESCAPED FIRES
SO LONG AS THEY WERE FOLLOWING
BEST PRACTICES. SB 3 10 WOULD
ALLOW FEDERALLY QUALIFIED BURN
BOSSES TO ALSO RELY ON THIS
LIABILITY STANDARD IN ORDER TO
ADDRESS IMPORTANT WORKFORCE
ISSUES. SO THANK YOU AGAIN AND
WE REQUEST YOUR I VOTE ON SB 3
10. THANK YOU, CHAIR AND MEMBERS
OF THE COMMITTEE. MY NAME IS
ALEX LOOMER AND HERE ON BEHALF
OF DEFENDERS OF WILDLIFE, WHOSE
MISSION IS TO PROTECT ALL NATIVE
ANIMALS AND PLANTS IN THEIR
NATURAL COMMUNITIES. WE GREATLY
APPRECIATE SENATOR DODD BRINGING
THIS BILL FORWARD AND HIS
LEADERSHIP ON THE ISSUE. IN 2021
. I HAD HELPED TO EVACUATE MY
PARENTS FROM THE TAMARACK FIRE
IN ALPINE COUNTY. AND A MONTH
LATER, I HAD TO EVACUATE MY HOME
IN SOUTH LAKE TAHOE AND THE
CALDERON FIRE HEAD. OF THE
BIGGEST FIRES IN CALIFORNIA'S
HISTORY. EIGHT OF THEM WERE IN
THE LAST DECADE, THOUSANDS OF
HOMES HAVE BEEN LOST IN OVER 7
MILLION ACRES OF HABITAT. WE
PROBABLY ALL KNOW SOMEONE WHO'S
BEEN AFFECTED BY WILDFIRE. WITH
CLIMATE CHANGE. WE KNOW WE'RE
FACING BIGGER AND MORE SEVERE
WILDFIRES AS THEY BURN LAND THAT
HASN'T SEEN FIRING OVER A
CENTURY. TRIBES IN CALIFORNIA
HAVE BEEN DOING CULTURAL BURNS
SINCE TIME IMMEMORIAL. THESE
BURNS REDUCE THE RISK OF
CATASTROPHIC OF TRAPPED
CATASTROPHIC WILDFIRES WHILE
ALSO PROMOTING BIODIVERSITY AND
ECOSYSTEM RESILIENCE AS THE
ANALYSIS POINTS OUT, STATE AND
FEDERAL LAND MANAGERS HAVE
HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF ACRES
THAT NEEDS CAREFUL BURNING TO
REDUCE THE RISK OF EXTREME
WILDFIRES IN OUR STATE.
CALIFORNIA SET AN AMBITIOUS GOAL
TO APPLY PRESCRIBED BURNS TO
400,000 ACRES BY THIS IN THE
STATE BY 2025. THIS BILL WILL
ENABLE TRIBES TO DO MORE
INTENTIONAL BURNS, THUS HELPING
THE STATE MEET OUR GOAL. TRIBES
ARE CRITICAL PARTNERS TO HELP
LIMIT THESE DAMAGING WILDFIRES
WILL ALSO STABILIZING FOREST
CARBON, BETTER PROTECTING OUR
COMMUNITIES AND RESTORING AND
MAINTAINING THE RESILIENCY AND
BIODIVERSITY IN THE CALIFORNIA
LANDSCAPE. SP 3 10 ACKNOWLEDGES
THE SOVEREIGNTY, JURISDICTION
AND CONTROL OVER NATURAL
RESOURCES WITHIN TRIBE'S
ANCESTRAL TERRITORIES AND ALLOWS
TRIBES AND CULTURAL FIRE
PRACTITIONERS TO HAVE THE
AUTHORITY TO DETERMINE WHEN
WHERE AND HOW TO APPLY CULTURAL
BURNS ON THEIR LANDS. BY DOING
SO, SP 3 10 WILL HELP TO ADDRESS
THE HISTORICAL INJUSTICE OF
CALIFORNIA'S APPROACH OF TRYING
TO ELIMINATE FIRE. INCLUDING
BLOCKING NATIVE CALIFORNIANS USE
THE PRESCRIBED FIRE. WE STRONGLY
SUPPORT WE STRONGLY SUPPORT SB 3
10 AND URGE YOUR I VOTE. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU NEXT. UH
WITNESSES ADDITIONAL WITNESSES
IN SUPPORT. MADAM CHAIR CHRIS
MAKELELE ON BEHALF OF HUMBOLDT
REDWOOD COMPANY AND MENDOCINE, A
REDWOOD COMPANY AND SUPPORTIVE
SENATOR DODD'S BILL. THANK YOU.
HI SAMANTHA SAMUELSON FOR THE
TRUST FOR PUBLIC LAND AND
SUPPORT. AND MAKING CLEVELAND
WITH THE NATURE CONSERVANCY AND
SUPPORT MICHAEL GERRARD ON
BEHALF OF THE COMMUNITY ALLIANCE
WITH FAMILY FARMERS AND SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. UM KIM DELFINO,
REPRESENTING NOT DEFENDERS THIS
TIME, BUT CALIFORNIA NATIVE
PLANT SOCIETY AND THIS YEAR
FORCE LEGACY AND SUPPORT. THANK
YOU. MADAM CHAIR MARK FINSTER,
MAKER FOR THE CALIFORNIA
ASSOCIATION OF RESOURCE
CONSERVATION DISTRICTS AND
SUPPORT THANK YOU. CHAIR MEMBERS
. MY NAME IS NO WHITLEY,
SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE MID
PENINSULA REGIONAL OPEN SPACE
DISTRICT IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU
NEXT. ARE THERE ANY WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION?
YES PLEASE GO AHEAD. MADAM CHAIR
AND MEMBERS. BRENDAN TOOLING ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA AIR
POLLUTION CONTROL OFFICERS
ASSOCIATION. THAT'S THE
EXECUTIVE OFFICERS FROM ALL 35
LOCAL AIR DISTRICTS.
RESPECTFULLY WE HAVEN'T OPPOSED
UNLESS AMENDED POSITION ON THE
BILL. WE AGREE THAT CULTURAL
BURNS AND PRESCRIBED FIRE
GENERALLY, OR A HIGHLY EFFECTIVE
TOOL THAT REDUCING WILDFIRE RISK
AND ARE COLLABORATING,
IMPLEMENTING PROGRAMS AND
ENGAGING IN COLLABORATIVE
DISCUSSIONS TO EXPAND ITS USE
FROM 2019 TO 2021. AIR
DISTRICT'S APPROVED 99% OF
REQUESTED PRESCRIBED BURNS. UM
WE'RE ACTIVELY ADVOCATING FOR
PRESCRIBED FIRE AT THE FEDERAL
LEVEL BECAUSE WE'RE ENGAGING
WITH CAL U S EPA AS IT
RECONSIDERS THE FEDERAL PM 2.5
NATIONAL AMBIENT AIR QUALITY
STANDARDS BECAUSE WE'RE
CONCERNED THAT SHOULD THE
STANDARDS BE PROMULGATED WITHOUT
CONSIDERATION TO PRESCRIBED
FIRE. UM THE EMISSIONS FROM THE
CORRECT PRESCRIBED FIRE THAT
CALIFORNIA WILL BE PREVENTED
FROM CONTINUING ITS USE TO
MITIGATE THE IMPACTS OF WILD
FIRE AND WILDFIRE SMOKE AIR
DISTRICTS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH
CARB CAL FIRE, FEDERAL LAND
MANAGERS, TRIBES AND OTHERS WERE
CLOSELY TO ENSURE THAT THAT
EMISSIONS FROM PRESCRIBED FIRES
DO NOT SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACT
DOWNWIND COMMUNITIES. AND THE
CURRENT PERMITTING PROCESS CAN
SYDOR'S SUCH FACTORS AS
METEOROLOGICAL CONDITIONS, FIRE
SUPPRESSION TECHNIQUES AND
LOCATION TO THE NEAREST
POPULATION CENTERS AMONG OTHERS
, AND THE PERMITS ALSO INCLUDE
PUBLIC NOTIFICATION AND SMOKE
MODELING REQUIREMENTS TO HELP
INFORM POTENTIALLY AFFECTED
AREAS. CONSISTENT WITH THE U. S
CONSTITUTION. DISTRICTS DO NOT
REQUIRE TRIBES TO OBTAIN PERMITS
ON FEDERALLY RECOGNIZED TRUST
LANDS, HOWEVER, BECAUSE OF THE
DEFINITION OF ANCESTRAL
TERRITORY IN THIS BILL, WITH THE
SIGN OFF OF THE SECRETARIES OF
NATURAL RESOURCES IN CALI, P A.
CULTURAL BURNS COULD BE ALLOWED
ANYWHERE IN THE STATE. WITHOUT
THE SAFETY MEASURES I DESCRIBED
SO SP 3 10 WOULD OVERRIDE LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS, ABILITY TO PROTECT
PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY BY
SHIFTING AUTHORITY FOR MAKING
BURN DECISIONS TO THE STATE, AND
I'LL JUST WRAP UP BY SAYING BURN
DECISIONS ARE MADE USING HIGHLY
LOCALIZED DATA OFTEN IN REAL
TIME. AND IT'S OUR CONCERN THAT
WITHOUT THIS DATA PRESCRIBED
BURN DECISIONS WILL BE BASED ON
INCOMPLETE KNOWLEDGE AND RISK
JEOPARDIZING PUBLIC HEALTH AND
SAFETY. SO WE'RE ASKING THE BILL
BE AMENDED TO LIMIT EXEMPTIONS
TO FEDERAL TRUST LAND AND RETAIN
LOCAL PERMITTING TO ENSURE
PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY IS
PROTECTED. THANK YOU, MADAM
CHAIR. THANK YOU. NEXT MADAM
CHAIR AND ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S. MY
NAME IS KELLY BONO MÐI AM WITH
THE CALIFORNIA AIR POLLUTION
CONTROL OFFICERS ASSOCIATION,
AND I'M JUST HERE TO ASSIST ANY
QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE, AS
I RUN THE PRESCRIBED BURN
PROGRAM FOR CAP CæA. THANKS
ADDITIONAL WITNESSES AND
OPPOSITION. HELLO MA'AM DAVID
QUINTANA WITH THE SOUTH COAST
AIR QUALITY MANAGEMENT DISTRICT
WERE OPPOSED UNLESS AMENDED, AND
WE ECHO CAP COZ POSITION. THANK
YOU. NEXT WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO
THE COMMITTEE ANY QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S WHAT
YES. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR AND
THANK YOU, SENATOR DODD FOR
BRINGING THIS BILL FORWARD. UM,
I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO
VISIT THE DIRECTOR OF NATURAL
RESOURCES WITH THE KARAOKE BILL
TRIP, WHO IS A EXPERT AND A
TRAINER IN CULTURAL BURNS. HE'S
HE'S WORLDWIDE RECOGNIZED FOR
HIS EXPERTISE. UM I TRUST HIM
ANY DAY TO DECIDE WHETHER BURN
SHOULD HAPPEN OR NOT, UM AND I
WANNA IT'S AN IMPORTANT IT'S AN
IMPORTANT PROCESS. IT'S
IMPORTANT TO THE TRIBES. IT'S
IMPORTANT TO THE LAND. I DON'T
HAVE NEVER SEEN ANYBODY WHO
RESPECTS THE LAND MORE THAN OUR
NATIVE PEOPLES. AND SO, UM,
SHOULD THE BILL MOVE FORWARD
CENTER DOT I'D LOVE TO BE ADDED
AS A CO AUTHOR, AND I THANK YOU
FOR BRINGING IT FORWARD. THANK
YOU. ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S BERG.
THANK YOU, SENATOR DONNA FOR
BRINGING THIS MEASURE FORWARD.
I'M JUST WONDERING IF YOU CAN
ADDRESS UM THE REQUEST FOR THE
AMENDMENTS THAT THE SOUTH COAST
AREA EQUALITY MANAGEMENT
DISTRICT AND THE AIR DISTRICTS
HAD AND WHAT THE IMPACT OF THAT
WOULD BE. WELL, CONSIDER THAT
THE EXPERTS MIGHT HAVE A BETTER
ANSWER, BUT YOU KNOW RIGHT AWAY.
IT'S JUST MORE RED TAPE. WE
REALLY BELIEVED THAT THE
DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES
HERE. UH IS IN LOCKSTEP WITH THE
AIR BOARDS AND AIR DISTRICTS
AND, UH, I DON'T THINK IT'S A
NECESSARY ELEMENT FOR YOU KNOW
THIS THIS BILL TO MOVE, YOU
KNOW, TO MOVE FORWARD. IF YOU
HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD, YES, AND
WITH RESPECT TO, UM THE IF THIS
BILL WERE TO BE LIMITED TO
FEDERAL TRUST LANDS THAT WOULD
MAKE THE BILL COMPLETELY
INEFFECTIVE COLOR. THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA DOES NOT HAVE
REGULATORY JURISDICTION OVER
FEDERAL INDIAN COUNTRY, SO IF WE
WERE TO BE LIMITED THAT THE BILL
WOULD EFFECTIVELY BE MOOT, UM
AND WE DO BELIEVE THAT AIR
DISTRICTS AT THE LOCAL LEVEL
HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR INPUT ON
AIR QUALITY PERMITTING ISSUES.
THE BILL DOES NOT MANDATE THAT
THE SECRETARY OF NATURAL
RESOURCES WAVE THE AIR QUALITY
PERMIT REQUIREMENTS. IT REQUIRES
CONCURRENCE OF CALI P A, WHICH
OVERSEES CARB AND CARP IS IN
REGULAR COMMUNICATION WITH THEIR
DISTRICTS. BETTER. WAS BETTER
APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. ANY
OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. OKAY. SEE
NONE. DO WE HAVE A MOTION AND
OKAY? OKAY WE HAVE A MOTION AND
A SECOND. WOULD YOU LIKE TO
CLOSE RESPECTFULLY ASKING FOR MY
VOTE? THANK YOU. WE HAVE A
MOTION AND A SECOND SECRETARY.
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL MOTION IS
DUE PAST AS AMENDED TO JUDICIARY
COMMITTEE. REBA'S I FLORA FLORA
I ADDIS. FRIEDMAN. HOOVER.
MATHIS. MATHIS EMERGED. SUKI
SUKI, I PELLERIN PELLERIN I
AWARD I WOULD WOULD I SPUR SPUR.
AYE. THAT BILL HAS SEVEN VOTES
WILL LEAVE IT OPEN FOR ABSENT
MEMBERS. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR
AND MEMBERS. THANK YOU. CHAIR
MOVING ON TO OUR FINAL BILL
TODAY HIGHLIGHTED NUMBER 12. SB
6 74 SOMEBODY, UH, SENATOR
GONZALEZ. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR
CHAIR. HERE TODAY TO PRESENT SB
6 74, WHICH WILL CREATE
STATEWIDE STANDARDS FOR THE
REFINERY, FENCE LINE AND
COMMUNITY AIR MONITORING PROGRAM
. THIS HISTORIC PROGRAM, WHICH
WAS CODIFIED IN 2017 AND
CHAMPIONED BY OUR GOOD COLLEAGUE
, ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S MURATSUCHI
WAS HERE TO PROTECT THE HEALTH
OF OUR FENCE LINE COMMUNITIES
AND REQUIRES DIFFERENT
REFINERIES TO DO THE FOLLOWING
INSTALLING MAINTAIN AIR MONITORS
ALONG THEIR FACILITY FENCE LINE
PUBLISHED THIS AIR MONITORING
DATA ONLINE, SEND REAL TIME
ALERTS TO THE COMMUNITY AND TAKE
CORRECTIVE ACTION WHEN DANGEROUS
LEVELS OF POLLUTION. ARE
DETECTED IN THE SIX YEARS SINCE
THE REFINERY FENCE LINE PROGRAM
WAS LAUNCHED, THERE HAVE BEEN
SERIOUS DEFICIENCIES IN
IMPLEMENTATION. THAT ARE
DEPRIVING FENCE LINE COMMUNITIES
OF THE INFORMATION AND
PROTECTIONS THEY NEED TO MAKE
INFORMED DECISIONS ABOUT THEIR
HEALTH AND WELL BEING, IN
PARTICULAR, REAL TIME ALERTS ARE
NOT BEING SENT. FENCE LINE DATA
IS NOT AVAILABLE ONLINE.
UNFORTUNATELY DANGEROUS
POLLUTANTS ARE NOT BEING
MONITORED, AND SOME REFINERIES
HAVE EVEN BEEN EXEMPTED FROM THE
PROGRAM ALTOGETHER. SP 6 74 WILL
ADDRESS THESE SHORTCOMINGS AND
CREATE A STATEWIDE STANDARD FOR
THE REFINERY FENCE LINE
MONITORING PROGRAM TO ENSURE
THAT THE NECESSARY POLLUTANTS
ARE MEASURED, MEASURED AND THE
BEST PRACTICES AND TECHNOLOGIES
ARE DEPLOYED. AS WE KNOW FAR TOO
LONG. MANY OF OUR COMMUNITIES
HAVE DEALT WITH HORRIBLE AIR
QUALITY, AND THEY JUST NEED
GREATER TRANSPARENCY IN ORDER TO
ENSURE THAT THEIR HEALTH IS OF
UTMOST IMPORTANCE. I LOOK
FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO WORK
WITH INTERESTED STAKEHOLDERS.
WE'VE BEEN ACTIVELY TALKING TO
THEM SINCE DAY ONE TO ENSURE THE
BILL IS PROACTIVE IN THAT IT IS
ENCOMPASSING THEIR IDEAS AND
TESTIFYING AND SUPPORT TODAY, MR
CHAIR I HAVE BYRON CHAN AN
ATTORNEY WITH EARTH JUSTICE AS
WELL AS CHEN, VICTOR AND JOHNSON
WITH EAST YARDS COMMUNITIES FOR
ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE, AND I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR MY VOTE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR FIRST
WITNESS, PLEASE. GOOD AFTERNOON
CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE. MY NAME IS BYRON CHAN
AND I'M, A SENIOR ATTORNEY AT
EARTH JUSTICE, WHICH IS A CO
SPONSOR OF SB 6 74. CALIFORNIA
IS HOME TO NUMEROUS REFINERIES.
THERE ARE SOME OF THE LARGEST
STATIONARY EMITTERS OF AIR
POLLUTION IN THE STATE INCIDENTS
AT THESE REFINERIES, INCLUDING
EXPLOSIONS, FIRES AND FLARING
EVENTS THREATEN THE HEALTH AND
SAFETY OF NEARBY COMMUNITY
MEMBERS, FIRST RESPONDERS AND
REFINERY WORKERS. TO ADDRESS
THESE HARMS FROM REFINERIES. THE
LEGISLATURE ADOPTED A B 16 47 IN
2017 TO IMPLEMENT A UNIFORM
STATEWIDE REFINERY FENCE LINE
AND COMMUNITY AIR MONITORING
PROGRAM AND BY CREATING SUCH A
PROGRAM. THE BILL AIMED TO
IDENTIFY SOURCES OF REFINERY
POLLUTION, NOTIFY RESIDENTS OF
SUCH POLLUTION AND INFORM
EMISSION REDUCTIONS. SIX YEARS
SINCE A B 16 47 WAS ENACTED,
SERIOUS FLAWS AND ITS
IMPLEMENTATION HAVE BECOME
APPARENT INSTEAD OF CREATING A
UNIFORM STATEWIDE MONITORING
PROGRAM. WHAT HAS EMERGED IS A
PATCHWORK OF REQUIREMENTS FROM
LOCAL AIR DISTRICTS THAT ARE
FAILING TO PROTECT PUBLIC HEALTH
AND SAFETY. SP 6 74 ADDRESSES
THE SERIOUS FLAWS IN THIS
PATCHWORK OF REQUIREMENTS AND
IMPLEMENTS BEST PRACTICES TO
ENSURE DATA QUALITY PROVIDE THE
PUBLIC WITH DATA ACCESS AND
NOTIFICATIONS AND ADDRESS EXCESS
EMISSIONS AT REFINERIES.
ULTIMATELY SP 6 74 IS CRITICAL
TO REALIZE THE PROMISE MADE BY
THIS LEGISLATURE SIX YEARS AGO.
TO PROVIDE TRANSPARENCY AND
PROTECTION TO THOSE IMPACTED BY
REFINERY HAZARDS AND POLLUTION.
SO WE URGE YOUR SUPPORT OF SB 6
74, AND WE WANT TO THANK THE
SENATOR FOR AUTHORING THIS BILL.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. NEXT WITNESS,
PLEASE. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME
IS JEN, VICTOR AND DAWSON. I AM
A STAFFING MEMBER AT EAST YARD
COMMUNITIES FOR ENVIRONMENTAL
JUSTICE, WHERE WE ORGANIZE
RESIDENTS IN THE LONG BEACH,
SOUTH BAY SOUTHEASTERLY AND
EASTERLY COMMUNITY TO ADDRESS
INDUSTRIAL POLLUTION AFFECTING
PREDOMINANTLY BLACK AND BROWN
NEIGHBORHOODS. NOT ONLY DO I
CURRENTLY ORGANIZED AND WORK
DIRECTLY WITH RESIDENTS ADJACENT
TO REFINERY OPERATIONS, BUT I
ALSO GREW UP NEXT TO THE NOW
MARATHON FACILITY. GROWING UP. I
THOUGHT THAT THESE FACILITIES
WERE NORMAL AND HAVING
RESPIRATORY ISSUES LIKE ASTHMA
WERE NORMAL. MY BROTHER WAS BORN
A YEAR AFTER I IMMIGRATED TO THE
US AND HE WAS BORN TO COME OUT
OF THE WOMB NEEDING TO USE THE
NEBULIZER EVERY NIGHT TO BE ABLE
TO BREATHE. MY FAMILY'S STORY IS
ONE OF MANY THAT STILL HAPPENED
TODAY, 26 YEARS LATER OF LIVING
IN THIS REGION. EVERY DAY. MANY
RESIDENTS ADJACENT TO REFINERY
PRODUCTION HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT
THEIR DAY WILL LOOK LIKE. DOES
THE AIR FEEL HEAVIER? CAN I FEEL
MY THROAT CLOSE UP? SO INSTEAD
OF WALKING IN THE PARK, I GO TO
AN INDOOR GYM. THESE ARE
QUESTIONS I GO THROUGH EVERY
DAY, EVEN WHEN THINKING ABOUT
SIMPLE ERRANDS. WE URGE YOU TO
SUPPORT THIS BILL BECAUSE IT IS
NOT REVOLUTIONARY. THROUGH THIS
BILL. WE ARE SIMPLY FILLING GAPS
IN THE FENCE LINE MONITORING
THAT NEEDS TO OCCUR AT ALL
REFINERY FACILITIES IN THE
STATE. THIS WILL ALSO FILL THE
GAPS OF MONITORING WITH SITES
THAT ALREADY HAVE AIR MONITORING
. THIS WILL ALLOW LOCAL
RESIDENTS LIKE THOSE IN LONG
BEACH, CARSON SOUTHEAST SLOWLY
UP AND DOWN THE STATE TO BE
EQUIPPED TO MAKE BETTER
DECISIONS IN THEIR LIVES.
FINALLY THIS BILL WILL ALLOW
DECISION MAKERS TO HAVE THE DATA
TO MAKE MORE IMPORTANT POLICY
MAKING ON HOW TO OVERSEE THESE
FACILITIES ARE STORIES ARE UP
AND TOLD WHAT IS THE DATA LOOK
LIKE? HOW MANY DAYS DID THE
FACILITY POTENTIALLY EMIT? WHAT
WERE YOU EXPOSED TO? THIS BILL
IS ABOUT TRANSPARENCY. SO
REFINERY EMISSIONS OVER TIME
WILL BE COLLECTED AND PAIRED
WITH OUR COMMUNITY NARRATIVES
WILL HIGHLIGHT TRULY WHAT WE'RE
EXPERIENCING AND WHAT SOLUTIONS
WE CAN CREATE TOGETHER AGAIN IN
ORDER TO SUPPORT THIS BILL AND
STAND ALONGSIDE REFINERY
COMMUNITIES. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU SO MUCH. ANYONE ELSE IN
SUPPORT OF SB 6 74 NAME AND
ORGANIZATION, PLEASE WITH THE
BAY AREA, AIR QUALITY MANAGEMENT
DISTRICT AND SUPPORT. ISABELLA
ARGUETA WITH THE HEALTH OFFICERS
ASSOCIATION OF CALIFORNIA AND
SUPPORT ERIN WILLEY ON BEHALF OF
SIERRA CLUB, CALIFORNIA AND
SUPPORT NO ITALY ON BEHALF OF
BREAST CANCER PREVENTION
PARTNERS AND CLEAN SEAS,
LOBBYING, COALITION AND SUPPORT.
HI RAQUEL MASON ON BEHALF OF
CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE
ALLIANCE ACTION IN THE CENTER ON
RACE, POVERTY AND THE
ENVIRONMENT. THANK YOU. HI FATTY
MIKE BALTER BEAR FROM CALIFORNIA
ENVIRONMENTAL VOTERS IN STRONG
SUPPORT. JANET COX ON BEHALF OF
CLIMATE ACTION, CALIFORNIA THE
SANTA CRUZ CLIMATE ACTION
NETWORK 3 50 HUMBOLDT, THE
SOUTHLAND 3 50 SOUTHLAND
LEGISLATIVE ALLIANCE CLIMATE
REALITY PROJECT, SAN FERNANDO
VALLEY AND CLIMATE REALITY
PROJECT LOS ANGELES IN STRONG
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
GOOD AFTERNOON, ROSS BUCKLEY ON
BEHALF OF SOUTH COAST OF QUALITY
MANAGEMENT DISTRICT. WE HAVE A
SUPPORT FROM ANY POSITION BUT
HAD A NUMBER OF PRODUCTIVE
CONVERSATIONS WITH THE AUTHOR
AND STAKEHOLDERS AND LOOK
FORWARD TO CONTINUING THOSE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. ANYONE IN
OPPOSITION TO SB 6 74. GOOD
AFTERNOON ZACHARY WITH THE
WESTERN STATES PETROLEUM
ASSOCIATION. WE'VE TAKEN AN
OPPOSE UNLESS AMENDED POSITION
ON THE BILL WANTED TO START BY
THANKING THE AUTHOR AND HER
STAFF FOR THE VERY PRODUCTIVE
CONVERSATIONS WE HAVE BEEN
HAVING ON THIS BILL. IT'S VERY
TECHNICAL, VERY COMPLEX ISSUE
AND LOOK FORWARD TO OUR
CONTINUED DISCUSSIONS ON THEM.
UM, AS WAS MENTIONED A B 16 47
WAS PASSED AND SIGNED INTO LAW.
OUR MEMBER COMPANIES WORK
THROUGH THE LOCAL AIR DISTRICTS
AND THEIR LOCAL RULES THAT THERE
WERE DEVELOPED TO IMPLEMENT THE
PROGRAM AND ARE HAVE INVESTED
SIGNIFICANT DOLLARS IN THE FENCE
LINE MONITORING PROGRAM. UH,
THAT WAS PASSED AH, AND THEN
IMPLEMENTED BY THE LOCAL AIR
DISTRICTS. UNFORTUNATELY ON 6 74
TAKES KIND OF A ONE SIZE. FITS
ALL APPROACH TO VERY DIFFICULT
AND SITE SPECIFIC ISSUE. UM AND
THIS BILL REALLY SAYS HOW THE
AIR DISTRICT SHOULD MONITOR OR
SHOULD IMPLEMENT. UH THE SYSTEM
WITH LITTLE FLEXIBILITY. FOR
DECISIONS TO BE MADE AT THE
LOCAL LEVEL BASED ON THAT SITE,
SPECIFIC INFORMATION OR
GEOGRAPHIC LOCATION, SAYING THE
AREA OF THE SOUTH COAST THE ONE
SIZE FITS ALL APPROACH REALLY
FAILS TO RECOGNIZE THE COMPLEX
NATURE OF REFINERIES IN
CALIFORNIA. AH AND THEN THE
INVESTMENTS ALREADY MADE BY
THESE COMPANIES WHO ARE
COMPLYING WITH 16 47. UM COUPLE
OF ISSUES THAT I JUST WANT TO
HIGHLIGHT, UH, THE DEFINITION OF
AUXILIARY FACILITIES IN THE
BILL. COULD HAVE DIFFERENT
MEETINGS COULD COULD HAVE
POTENTIAL DIFFERENT
INTERPRETATIONS. AND, AS WAS
POINTED OUT IN THE COMMITTEE
ANALYSIS MAY BE IMPRACTICAL OR
UNNECESSARY. WE THINK THERE
NEEDS TO BE CLARIFICATION ON THE
DEFINITION OF REFINERY PERTINENT
TO THE PROPERTY OWNERSHIP OF THE
REFINERY. AND THEN WITH REGARDS
TO THE PERIMETER MONITORING THE
BILL. WE'RE REQUIRES THAT EVERY
CORNER OF THE REFINERY BE
MONITORED. UM, THAT'S NOT HOW IT
WORKS TODAY, WITH THE PROGRAMS
THAT ARE IMPLEMENTED AT THE
LOCAL LEVEL, WE BELIEVE IT
SHOULD BE SITE SPECIFIC.
DETERMINATION WITH THE DISTRICT
AND FIGURE OUT WHERE THE BEST
SPOTS TO MONITOR OUR, UM THERE
ARE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS SO
DIFFERENT MONITORING
REQUIREMENTS WOULD BE MADE. AND
THEN THE LAST ISSUE ALL
HIGHLIGHT HERE IS WITH THIS
ISSUE OF PRESUMPTION THAT THIS
DATA IS YIELD CREDIBLE FOR A
VIOLATION AGAINST THE REFINERY.
NOT A PERFECT SCIENCE. THE
MONITORS CAN GO OFF FOR MANY
DIFFERENT REASONS. AND SO FOR
THOSE REASONS, WE REMAIN OPPOSED
. AND WE SUBMITTED. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. ANYONE ELSE
IN OPPOSITION TO SB 6 74 NAME
AND ORGANIZATION, PLEASE. CHAIR
MEMBERS MIKE MONEGAN ON BEHALF
OF THE STATE BUILDING TRADES AND
OPPOSITION. THANK YOU SO MUCH
ANYONE ELSE IN OPPOSITION? CN
AND BRING BACK TO THE COMMITTEE.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE
MEMBERS? SO WHERE IS OVER? SO
FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK
THE AUTHOR AND THE SPONSORS OF
THE BILL. I THINK THIS IS REALLY
IMPORTANT TO REALLY CLOSING GAPS
IN THE MONITORING THAT IS
OCCURRING AROUND OUR REFINERIES
. UM I DID HAVE A COUPLE OF
QUESTIONS, AND I KNOW THAT THIS
IS A BIT OF WORK IN PROGRESS. UM
BUT ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAD
IS, UM I NOTED THAT THERE WERE
SOME COMMENTS. UH, ABOUT
NERVOUSNESS ABOUT DUPLICATIVE,
UM UH, REQUIREMENTS FROM THE
CURRENT AIR DISTRICTS AND WHAT
THIS WOULD IMPOSE. UM IS IT
ACCURATE THAT THIS WOULD REQUIRE
THE WOULD REALLY GO REQUIRE
THEIR DISTRICTS TO GO BACK AND
SUPPLEMENT THE CURRENT
MONITORING REQUIREMENTS SO THERE
WOULDN'T BE DUPLICATION? COULD
YOU SORT OF GO INTO THAT A
LITTLE BIT? YES UM, BYRON, DO
YOU WANT TO TAKE THIS ONE? I
DON'T KNOW. SOCIETY DUPLICATIVE
OF EFFORT. BASICALLY THAT
REFINERIES. SORRY IF YOU COULD
JUST CLARIFY THAT IF YOU LOOK AT
SOME OF THE COMMENTS OF THE
BUILDING TRADES HAD ONE OF THE
THINGS THEY'RE NERVOUS ABOUT IS
THAT THERE WOULD BE DUPLICATIVE
REQUIREMENTS THAT WOULD BE
IMPOSED BY THIS BILL AND WHAT
THE CURRENT AIR DISTRICTS ARE
DOING. I THOUGHT IN READING THIS
THAT WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS THAT
THE AIR DISTRICTS HAVE TO GO
BACK AND UPDATE THE REQUIREMENTS
SO THAT THERE WON'T BE TWO SETS
OF REQUIREMENTS THERE WILL BE
UPDATED SETS OF REQUIREMENTS. IS
THAT ACCURATE OR NOT? EXACTLY
THAT'S ACCURATE. SO IN ONE
EXAMPLE IS THE LIST OF
POLLUTANTS, FOR EXAMPLE, SO A
NEW RULE MAKING WOULD BE
INITIATED AT THE AIR DISTRICTS.
TO EXPAND THE LIST TO INCLUDE
ALL OF THE POLLUTANTS OF CONCERN
AT REFINERIES. THAT'S RIGHT. UM
THE OTHER THING I'LL SAY IS
GOING TO BE SUPPORTING THE BILL
TODAY. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT
BUT IN READING THROUGH THE BILL
ITSELF, AND I'M A LAWYER, AND I
READ ALL THESE THINGS, UM I DO
THINK THAT SOME OF THESE
DEFINITIONS AND AUXILIARY
FACILITIES UM AH, REFINERY, UH,
REFINERY PROCESSES. THEY REALLY
NEED TO BE TIGHTENED UP, BECAUSE
WHEN YOU WHEN YOU ACTUALLY I WAS
JUST SORT OF GOING THROUGH AND
SAYING, OKAY? DOES THIS WITH
THIS? PICK UP AN AUTO SUPPLY
STORE? WELL, SOME OF SOME OF
THEM WOULD WRITE IF YOU ACTUALLY
GIVE THESE THINGS PLAYING
MEETING. SO UM, I JUST WANTED TO
ASK IF YOU'RE WILLING TO
CONTINUE WORKING WITH THE
BUILDING TRADES AND SOME OF THE
OTHER OPPONENTS TO TRY TO
TIGHTEN SOME OF THESE THINGS UP.
I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE AFTER. IT'S
REALLY TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT,
UM, THAT THE, UM THAT THE
MONITORING AROUND THE EVENTS.
LINES OF REFINERIES IS ALL BEING
CAPTURED, BUT I THINK LOOKING AT
SOME OF THESE DEFINITIONS IS
GOING TO BE IMPORTANT TO MAKE
SURE THAT YOU'RE NOT CAPTURING
THINGS THAT DON'T REALLY YEAH,
POSE AN ENVIRONMENTAL RISK AND
NOT, FOR EXAMPLE, REQUIRING, FOR
EXAMPLE, UM YOU KNOW? MONITORING
AROUND SOMETHING THAT IS NOT
REALLY AN EMISSION SOURCE
BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT IT
MIGHT BE A SEPARATE PARCEL, SO I
JUST THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I'M
HELPING YOU WORK WORK WITH.
ABSOLUTELY WE'VE BEEN WORKING
WITH THE OPPOSITION SINCE DAY
ONE TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE
STREAMLINING THE DEFINITIONS AND
WE'VE ACTUALLY OMITTED GAS
STATIONS BECAUSE THAT WAS A LIKE
A EXPLICIT REQUEST FROM THE
OPPOSITION, SO WE HAVE MORE WORK
TO DO. WILL CERTAINLY CONTINUE
WORKING WITH THEM, BUT I THINK
THERE'S SOME TECHNOLOGY OUT
THERE. NOW THAT DOES
DIFFERENTIATE. UM THE EMISSIONS
FROM SPECIFIC REFINERIES,
WHETHER BIO OR, YOU KNOW.
REGULAR REFINING LOCATIONS AND
OTHER POLLUTANTS. SO UM, THERE
IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DISTINGUISH
BETWEEN THEM. BUT I DO KNOW THAT
YOU KNOW, WE'LL WE'LL STILL
CONTINUE TO GO BACK TO THE
DRAWING BOARD AND CONTINUE
WORKING WITH THEM. BUT AGAIN
WITH THE WITH THE AGREEMENT IN
THE, UM AND INSURANCE THAT WERE
GETTING GOOD OUTCOMES FOR THE
COMMUNITY, AND IT'S TRANSPARENT
MORE THAN I HAVE CONFIDENCE IN
YOU AND THE AND THE SPONSORS AND
JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR DOING
THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO
COMPELLING. I HAD A SIMILAR
QUESTION ABOUT THE ACCURACY OF
THE SYSTEM. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE IT
IS ABLE TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN
YEAH, THERE IS TECHNOLOGY. I
THINK THERE'S A SPECIFIC STUDY
THAT I HAD READ AND BYRON, YOU
CAN CHIME IN. IF YOU'D LIKE TO
BASICALLY STATES THAT YOU CAN
DISTINGUISH THE DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN, UM YOU KNOW, THEY'RE
SAYING IF THERE'S OTHER
POLLUTANTS OUTSIDE OF THE
REFINERY, HOW DO YOU DISTINGUISH
BETWEEN THEM? UM THERE IS
TECHNOLOGY, AND I'M TOTALLY, UM
, BLANKING OUT ON THE SPECIFIC
STUDY THAT I HAD READ, BUT YOU
MAY WANT TO DOUBLE UP ON THIS
AND ADD ADDITIONAL TO THAT. BUT
THERE IS SURE I WOULD JUST ADD,
UM I'M THINKING OF THE FLUX
SENSE STUDY THAT WAS DONE IN THE
SOUTH COAST. UM, THAT USED A
VEHICLE WITH A TRACKER THAT
ACTUALLY LOOKED AT THE PERIMETER
OF THESE FACILITIES AND FOUND
THAT REFINERIES WERE
SIGNIFICANTLY UNDERESTIMATING
THEIR EMISSIONS. SO THAT WAS
PART OF, UM, THE IMPETUS FOR
THIS FENCE LINE MONITORING
PROGRAM. AND I WOULD JUST SAY
THAT, UM, I THINK IT'S A REALLY
GREAT QUESTION TO THINK ABOUT
DIFFERENTIATING BETWEEN
POLLUTANTS. UM THE ULTIMATE
DECISION IS STILL WHAT THE AIR
DISTRICT TO LOOK AT A VARIETY OF
DIFFERENT, UM, CONDITIONS, FOR
EXAMPLE METER ALL METEOROLOGICAL
CONDITIONS. WHEN THAT DAY UM
THIS JUST PROVIDES ANOTHER TOOL
FOR AIR DISTRICTS TO THINK ABOUT
. HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT THESE
REFINERIES ARE BEING TRANSPARENT
ABOUT WHAT'S CROSSING INTO FENCE
LINE COMMUNITIES. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU REMEMBER MURATSUCHI.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SENATOR FOR
A PICKING UP THE BALL FROM WHERE
I LEFT OFF AND CHAMPIONING THIS
CAUSE. UM, YOU KNOW, I'M UH,
PROUD TO SIGN ON AS A CO AUTHOR
OF YOUR BILL TO CONTINUE THE
EFFORT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU
KNOW, I'M LISTENING TO THE
PRESENTATION OF THE BILL AND I'M
THINKING, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF
WHAT UM, YOU'RE SEEKING TO
ACCOMPLISH WITH THE BILL. I'M
THINKING, WAIT. YOU KNOW, I
THOUGHT MY BILL WAS SUPPOSED TO
DO THAT, OR MY BILL IS SUPPOSED
TO THIS AND YOU KNOW IT. TO ME.
I'M HEARING THE CHALLENGE
BETWEEN YOU KNOW THE POLICY THAT
WE ENACT UP HERE IN THE STATE
CAPITAL. UH YOU KNOW, AND YOU
KNOW, VERSUS WHAT IS ACTUALLY
IMPLEMENTED. UM AH. AND IN OUR
COMMUNITIES, UM AND ONE OF THE.
THE POINTS THAT YOU MADE ABOUT
HOW DIFFERENT AIR DISTRICTS ARE.
APPARENTLY AND IMPLEMENTING, UM,
YOU KNOW, THE POLICY AND IN MY
BILL SIX YEARS AGO, UM. SUIT SO
I HOW EXACTLY LIKE CAN YOU GIVE
LIKE YOU KNOW, UM, YOUR YOUR
BEST EXAMPLE IN THIS BILL OF HOW
YOU'RE GOING TO ENSURE THAT HOW
YOUR BILL IS GOING TO TIGHTEN UP
THE SITUATION, BUT YOU'RE YOU'RE
BASICALLY GOING TO REQUIRE ALL
AIR DISTRICTS TO, UM. 22 MORE
SPECIFICALLY IMPLEMENT THE GOALS
OF YOUR BILL. ABSOLUTELY SO, FOR
EXAMPLE, I'LL GIVE YOU A GOOD
EXAMPLE. SO SOUTH COAST AQMD. I
THINK I'M SORRY. A AREA AQMD AT
THIS 0.12345 ONLY FIVE CHEMICALS
CURRENTLY THAT THEY ARE
MEASURING OUT OF THE 18 FROM THE
OFFICE OF ENVIRONMENT AND HEALTH
HAZARD. UM, THRESH NOTIFICATIONS
ONLY SOUTH COAST, AQMD ACTUALLY
NOTIFIES THE PUBLIC IN A TIMELY
MANNER. QUARTERLY DATA REPORTS.
IT'S ONLY SOUTH COAST AQMD THAT
DOES QUARTERLY DATA REPORTS. WE
WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF
THE AIR QUALITY DISTRICTS SOUTH
COAST BAY AREA SAN JOAQUIN ARE
DOING THE SAME THING MEASURING
ALL 18. POLLUTANTS NOTIFICATIONS
TO THE PUBLIC QUARTERLY DATA
REPORTS. UM OF COURSE, THE
SIGHTING OF FENCE LINE AIR
MONITORS ALL THE SAME. UM, AND
OF COURSE, WE'RE INCLUDING BIO
REFINERIES AS WELL BECAUSE WE
THINK THAT THOSE OBVIOUSLY ARE
STILL ADMITTING QUITE A BIG DEAL
IN SOUTHGATE. I'VE GOT ONE
EXAMPLE AND AS WELL AS IN
PARAMOUNT, AND THEY'RE EMITTING
JUST THE SAME. BUT WE'RE NOT
CAPTURING THAT DATA. SO I HEAR
FROM FOLKS BACK HOME IN SOUTH
GATE THAT ARE SAYING I AM
SMELLING SOMETHING, AND I'M
HEARING OR FEELING SOMETHING BUT
UH, WHERE'S THE DATA ONLINE? AND
SO THIS? THIS BILL WOULD ALSO
INCLUDE THEM, WHICH I THINK IS A
REALLY GOOD THING FOR
TRANSPARENCY AND FOR ALLOWING
THOSE RESIDENTS ALSO HAVE THE
SAME BENEFITS. OKAY WELL, THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. AND I HOPE YOUR
BILL SUCCEEDS IN UM. TIGHTENING
UP. WHAT WHAT? I INTENDED TO
ACCOMPLISH THEM IN MY BELT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
FOR HOOVER. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
UM I APPRECIATE THE BILL, I JUST
WANTED TO CLARIFY A COUPLE OF
THINGS. I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS.
KIND OF ABOUT THE, UH LACK OF OR
THE TAKING AWAY OF LOCAL CONTROL
UNDER THIS BILL, UM YOU KNOW
YOUR BILL CURRENTLY TALKS ABOUT
THE FENCE LINE MONITORING AND
HOW IT SHALL COVER THE ENTIRE
PERIMETER OF THE REFINERY. UM
UNLESS UNLESS THAT WAS
INFEASIBLE, SO I'M TRYING TO
FIGURE OUT WHAT YOUR BILL MEANS
BY INFEASIBLE LIKE WHAT WOULD BE
CONSIDERED INFEASIBLE. AND THEN
ALSO, YOU KNOW WHETHER OR NOT
YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO REMOVE
THAT PORTION OF THE BILL AT A
FUTURE TIME TO ENSURE THAT
THINGS THESE CAN BE TAKEN ON A
CASE BY CASE BASIS BASED ON
DIFFERENT FACTORS IN DIFFERENT
DISTRICTS AND WITH DIFFERENT
REFINERIES VERSUS KIND OF A ONE
SIZE FITS ALL. WELL UM, ON THE
LAST QUESTION, I THINK AGAIN. WE
WANT TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S
CONSISTENCY ACROSS ALL THREE AIR
QUALITY MANAGEMENT DISTRICT AND
SO RIGHT NOW, I THINK WE'RE
PROVIDING THEM WITH EVEN MORE
CONTROL TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
BY HAVING MORE DATA AT THEIR AT
THEIR HANDS RIGHT NOW. THEY
DON'T HAVE ENOUGH DATA. IN MY
OPINION TO BE ABLE TO YOU KNOW,
UM, TO PROVIDE TO THE PUBLIC ON
WHAT EXACTLY IS HAPPENING THIS
AGAIN? THIS BILL IS FOR THE
PUBLIC TO ENSURE THAT THEY KNOW
EXACTLY WHAT'S BEING EMITTED IN
THE AIR POLLUTANTS, THE
NOTIFICATION AND ALSO FOR
RESEARCHERS TO BE ABLE TO
UNDERSTAND WHAT'S OUT THERE. UM
AND SO IN TERMS OF THE
FEASIBILITY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT
SPECIFIC SCENARIOS WE DON'T
KNOW. IF BYRON YOU HAVE A
SPECIFIC SCENARIO, I KNOW KEEP
QUIET POINTING TO YOU BECAUSE
YOU'RE OUR EXPERT HERE. ON THE
SPECIFIC SCENARIOS FOR IN
FEASIBILITY, BUT OF COURSE,
CONTINUING TO BE OPEN WITH, UM
BUT AGAIN WITH THE WITH THE
ASSURANCE THAT WE'RE GOING TO
GET THE SAME DATA, AND IT'S
GOING TO BE CONSISTENT ACROSS
THE BOARD. YEAH SORRY. THIS IS
KIND OF AWKWARD, BUT LET ME UM I
THINK, UM, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE
GETTING AT THIS ONE SIZE FITS
ALL MODEL IS A REALLY IMPORTANT
QUESTION. AND I THINK THAT THE
BILL ITSELF HAS LANGUAGE THAT
ALLOWS FLEXIBILITY TO PRESERVE
LOCAL CONTROL. SO WHEN YOU'RE
TALKING ABOUT IN FEASIBILITY,
FOR EXAMPLE, IF A REFINERY ONE
SIDE OF THEIR FINERY BORDERS THE
OCEAN, FOR EXAMPLE, RIGHT, SO
THERE'S NO COMMUNITIES WHO, UM,
WOULD BE IMPACTED BY THOSE AH,
EMISSIONS, THEN THAT WOULD BE AN
IN FEASIBILITY. WHERE UM, I
COULD UNDER I CAN UNDERSTAND A
SITUATION WHERE, UM, THE AIR
DISTRICT WOULDN'T REQUIRE THE
REFINERY TO THEN INSTALL FENCE
LINE MONITORS ALONG THAT SIDE OF
THE REFINERY. RIGHT SO I THINK
THAT THAT'S AN IMPORTANT WAY OF
MAINTAINING THAT LOCAL CONTROL
AT THE AT THE LOCAL LEVEL. I
THINK THERE'S ALSO AN ISSUE OF
THE POLLUTANTS AS A SENATOR WAS
MENTIONING. UM THE NUMBER OF
POLLUTANTS THAT ARE MEASURED AT
IN EACH AIR DISTRICT ARE
DIFFERENT, EVEN THOUGH THERE'S A
LIST OF 18 POLLUTANTS THAT CAME
FROM THE STATE, SAYING THAT
THESE ARE THE MOST COMMONLY
EMITTED POLLUTANTS THAT
REFINERIES, SO IT'S UM THE BILL
ITSELF ALLOWS FOR REFINERIES TO
SAY WE'RE NOT ADMITTING THIS
POLLUTANT SO WE SHOULDN'T HAVE
TO MONITOR IT, WHICH MAKES A LOT
OF SENSE. BUT I THINK CREATING
THAT GROUNDWORK OF THESE ARE THE
18 POLLUTANTS. AND THEN YOU HAVE
TO JUSTIFY WHY YOU'RE NOT
LOOKING AT THAT POLLUTANT OR WHY
MONITORING ISN'T APPROPRIATE IS
THE RIGHT APPROACH INSTEAD OF
CREATING AN EXEMPTION FROM THE
BEGINNING. GOT IT. THANK YOU. UM
YEAH, AND I APPRECIATE THAT
EXPLANATION. I THINK, UH, YOU
KNOW, WOULD BE INTERESTING TO
SEE IF WE COULD KIND OF BETTER
DEFINE, YOU KNOW, IN FEASIBILITY
IN THE BILL, UM, BUT THAT IS
HELPFUL TO KNOW THAT THAT SOME
OF THESE GEOGRAPHIC, YOU KNOW,
CHALLENGES FOR REFINERIES OR ARE
YOU KNOW AT LEAST THE INTENTION
OF THE BILL IS TO, UM ALLEVIATE
THAT. SO UM I THINK THAT'S IT
FOR NOW. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE?
SEE YOU IN THE BILL. THE MOTION
IN SECOND SECOND RIGHT? SENATOR
WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE? I
APPRECIATE ALL THE QUESTIONS AND
WILL CERTAIN CERTAINLY
DETERMINED, YOU KNOW SOME
ADDITIONAL ANSWERS FOR THE
QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED, BUT
WE THANK YOU AND RESPECTFULLY
ASPIRIN. I VOTE. THANK YOU SO
MUCH. MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL. THE MOTION IS DUE
PAST TWO JUDICIARY COMMITTEE.
LUZ RIVAS FLORA LARA, NOT
VOTING. ADDIS FRIEDMAN. HOOVER.
NO. HOOVER NO. MATHIS MATHIS. NO
MERIT SOUCI ITSUKI. I PELLERIN
PAELLA AND I WARD WOULD. FOR
THIS BIRD. I. THAT'S THREE
VOTES. WE'LL LEAVE IT OPEN.
PERHAPS SOME MEMBERS, IT'S ON
CALL. ALRIGHT WE WOULD CALL ALL
THE MEMBERS OF NATURAL RESOURCES
COMMITTEE TO COME TO THE CHAMBER
AND WE WILL GO THROUGH THE ROLL
COUPLE TIMES. BUT WE DON'T
CONSENT BEING CONSISTENT,
KANSEN. WE DID DO CONSENT. OKAY?
IS THAT LONG? OKAY? THANK YOU.
MY COLLEAGUES WERE GONNA START
FROM THE TOP AND GO THROUGH THE
FILE. STARTING WITH WIENER. SB.
2 73. OKAY, CLEANER AGENDA. THE
MOTION IS DUE PASS TO
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE CHAIR
VOTING. I ABSENT MEMBERS,
FRIEDMAN. MERIT SUKI SUKI, NOT
VOTING. WARD. YUP. IT'S SENATOR
WIENER. SB 2 73. CHAIR VOTING,
AYE. WARD. I FRIEDMAN FRIEDMAN.
AYE. THE BILL IS OUT WITH 10
VOTES MOVING ON TO FILE ITEM.
YES, YOU DEVOTED AYE. WE'RE
GOING TO FILE AT NUMBER TWO SB 2
86 CENTER MCGUIRE. THE MOTION IS
DUE PASS AS AMENDED TO UTILITIES
AND ENERGY. CHAIR VOTING. I
ABSENT MEMBERS. FRIEDMAN
FRIEDMAN, I'M MERIT SUKI. SUKI.
I WARD WARD. I WAS BERBER.
BERBER. AYE. BUILD OUT WITH 11
VOTES. MOVING ON TO FILE ITEM
NUMBER FOUR. SB 303 SENATOR
ALLEN. THE MOTION IS DUE PASS AS
AMENDED TO JUDICIARY COMMITTEE
CHAIR VOTING. I ABSENT MEMBERS,
FRIEDMAN FRIEDMAN. I'M MERIT
SUKI. SUKI. I WARD WARD EYES
SPUR. AYE. BILLS OUT WITH 11
VOTES. MOVING ON TO FILE ITEM
NUMBER FIVE. SB 3/10 SENATOR
DODD MOTION IS DUE PAST AS
AMENDED TO JUDICIARY COMMITTEE
CHAIR VOTING I ABSENT MEMBERS,
ATIS FRIEDMAN. FRIEDMAN. I.
HOOVER HOOVER. I WARD WARD. I.
BILLS OUT WITH 10. IT'S ON CALL
WITH 10 VOTES. SORRY ABOUT THAT.
MOVING ON TO FILE ITEM NUMBER
EIGHT. WELL, SHE HELD THAT BILL.
YES, FILE ITEM. NUMBER 10 SP 5
83 THE MOTION IS DUE PAST AS
AMENDED TO APPROPRIATIONS CHAIR
VOTING. AYE. FLORA. UH VOTE
CHANGED? NO, TÚI. AYE. FRIEDMAN.
FRIEDMAN. AYE. MATHIS.
MURATSUCHI MERIT SUKI I WARD
WARD. AYE. THE BILL HAS NINE
VOTES WILL LEAVE IT OPEN. YEAH,
WE DO. ONE MORE VOTE CHANGE ON
VILE ITEM 10. SB 5, 83 HOOVER,
HOOVER HOOVER, NOT VOTING TÔI
VOTING TÔI. OKAY? WHAT OKAY?
VIOLATING 12. WE'RE GONNA JUMP
DOWN FOR THE CHAIR TO FILE AND
I'M 12. SB 6 74 GONZALEZ. MOTION
IS DUE PAST THE JUDICIARY RIVAS.
I BELIEVE US I ADDIS FRIEDMAN.
FRIEDMAN. AYE. FORD. WARD. I
WOULD. WE'LL LEAVE IT OUT. THAT
BILL HAS SIX VOTES WILL LEAVE IT
ON CALL. I THINK WE'RE GONNA
JUMP BACK UP TO DO YOU CONSENT?
YOU DON'T. WELL, YOU FINALLY I'M
13 SB 7 81 STERN. MOTION IS DUE
PASS AS AMENDED TO UTILITIES AND
ENERGY. CHAIR VOTING. I ABSENT
MEMBERS, FRIEDMAN FRIEDMAN. I'M
. MURATSUCHI ITSUKI I WARD WARD.
I SPUR BERT? AYE. IT TOOK THREE
. EVERYBODY, EVERYONE. THE BILL
IS OUT WITH EIGHT VOTES, AND
THEN WE'LL DO THE CONSENT
CALENDAR. CONSENT ITEMS ARE SP
301 PORTANTINO AS WE 367 SEYARTO
SB 4 TO 2 PORTANTINO. SB 539
STERN SP 6 13 SEYARTO. ABSENT
MEMBERS. FRIEDMAN FRIEDMAN, A
MARTUCCI ITSUKI AWARD. WARD
ICEBERG SPUR, AYE. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH CALENDAR. WE'RE GONNA
HANG OUT FOR A LITTLE BIT LONGER
PERSONALLY. WOMAN AT US TO COME
OUT ON.
IT IS.
ALRIGHT FILE ITEM 12. SB 6 74
GONZALES. WOULD I HAS BILLS OUT
WITH SEVEN VOTES. THANKS, SIR.
AND THEN WE'RE GONNA GO TO FILE
ITEM. FIVE SB 3 10, SENATOR
DODD. THAT BILL IS OUT WITH 10
VOTES AND WE CLOSE THE ROLE. AND
WITH MEETING IS ADJOURNED.