IS JUDICIARY COMMITTEE HEARING
AS A REMINDER EACH SIDE WILL BE
ALLOWED TO MAIN WITNESSES TWO
MINUTES EACH ADDITIONAL
WITNESSES SHOULD STATE THEIR
NAME ORGANIZATION ONLY. THIS
ALLOWS ALL AUTHORS A FAIR CHANCE
TO PRESENT THEIR BILLS AND ALL
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AN EQUAL
CHANCE TO HAVE THEIR POSITION
REFLECTED IN THE RECORD AS WE
PROCEED WITH OUR HEARING I WANNA
MAKE SURE EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS
OUR COMMITTEE RULES TO ENSURE WE
MAINTAIN ORDER AND RUN A FAIR
AND EFFICIENT HEARING WITH THE
GOAL OF HEARING. AS MUCH FROM
THE PUBLIC WITHIN THE LIMITS OF
OUR TIME THE RULES OF CONDUCT BY
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC INCLUDE NO
TALKING OR LOUD NOISES FROM THE
AUDIENCE PUBLIC COMMENT MAY BE
PROVIDED ONLY AT THE DESIGNATED
TIME AND MUST BE LIMITED TO YOUR
NAME ORGANIZATION IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION OF A BILL NO ENGAGING
IN CONDUCT THAT DISRUPTS
DISTURBS OR OTHERWISE IMPEDES
THE ORDERLY CONDUCT OF THIS
HEARING. NO ENGAGING IN PERSONAL
ATTACKS OF MEMBERS OF THIS
COMMITTEE AUTHORS OR STAFF
PLEASE BE AWARE THAT VIOLATIONS
ROLES MAY SUBJECT YOU TO REMOVAL
OR OTHER ENFORCEMENT PROCESSES.
SO WITH THAT WE WILL BEGIN AS A
SUB COMMITTEE I SEE MISTER AMBER
GETS HERE WELCOME. WE'LL START
WITH ITEM NUMBER ONE SB. SIXTY
Q. VERY MUCH HERE AND MEMBERS-
THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS
BILL AS WELL AS- STAFFER MANUELA
WHOSE VOTE SOMETIME IN
ATTENTION. I PRESENT TODAY SB
SIXTY WHICH CONTAINS THE
PREVENTION OF SOCIAL MEDIA DRUG
SALES- THIS BILL IS PATTERNED.
ON A BILL THAT WE DID A YEAR AGO
CONCERNING THREATS THAT ARE MADE
ONLINE WITH THE BILL DOES IS THE
BILL SIMPLY SAYS. IF A DRUG
TRAFFICKERS TRAFFICKING ILLEGAL
DRUGS ONLINE THAT YOU CAN ASK
THE SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORM
REQUEST THE TAKE THAT SITE DOWN
TO TAKE THAT PERSON'S- THAT
PERSON'S PRESENCE DOWN FROM THE
WEBSITE. IF IT'S NOT DONE THEN
YOU CAN GO TO COURT AND ASK THE
COURT TO ENJOIN THEM. AND IF
THEY DON'T IF THEY DON'T TAKE IT
DOWN AT THAT POINT THEN THEY'RE
SUBJECT TO ALL THE REMEDIES THAT
ARE AVAILABLE IN A CONTEMPT
PROCEEDING- THE BILL'S IMPORTANT
BECAUSE- DRUG SALES PARTICULARLY
WITH RESPECT TO OX CODE ON
PERCOCET XANAX AND NOW FENNEL.
ARE OFTEN DONE ONLINE- I- HAS
SPENT A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF
TIME IN THIS AREA. AND WE'RE
HOPING THAT THIS WILL MAKE SOME
DIFFERENCE ANYBODY CAN REQUEST
THAT A CERTAIN SITE BE TAKEN
DOWN BECAUSE THE SOCIAL MEDIA
PLATFORM TIME TO REVIEW TO SEE
WHETHER IT'S A LEGITIMATE
REQUEST OR NOT THAT ORIGINAL
VOTE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH WITH
ANY C. NO MAIN WITNESSES AND
SUPPORT ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT. SCENE NINE WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION. SCENE NINE WE'RE OFF
TO A GOOD START TODAY- I'VE GOT
A FIFTY MINUTE CLOSE SO. LET ME
KNOW RIGHT. THERE'S A LINE OF
BATTERY IN THE MIKE. SO I ANY
QUESTIONS COMMENTS FROM THE
COMMITTEE. SCENE NINE- WILL TAKE
A MOTION ONCE WE GET A QUORUM
BUT CENTER NUMBER GIVE ME
CLOTHES ALL RIGHT- I'M GONNA
FORGO THE FIFTY MINUTE CLASS
ASSEMBLY US RELY VOTE THANK YOU
VERY MUCH WE ARE ****. YOU NEXT
UP MR CORTEZ HE- WELL. SURE CAN-
PAUSE FOR A COUPLE MINUTES INTO
PLAY IN THE AWAY MESSAGE
MATERIALS GIVE YOUR OKAY READY
TO RUN OUT OKAY. AND WE WOULD
URGE AUTHORS AT TO PLEASE ATTEND
.
COME RIGHT ON NOT JUST KEEP
GOING. AS MENTIONED I KEEP UP
AND YOU KEEP ON. OKAY.
WELCOME WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER TWO
SB. THREE SEVENTY TWO. GOOD
MORNING MISTER CHAIR COMMITTEE
MEMBERS. I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT
I'M HERE TO PRESENT SB THREE
SEVEN TO THEIR RESPECTIVE NAMES
OCT SB THREE SEVEN TWO HAS GONE
THROUGH FOR THIS IS THE FOURTH
COMMITTEE AND THERE IS A
QUESTION THAT MAYBE YOU'LL BE
ASKING ME SB THREE SEVENTY TWO
SO ANSWER MY REMARKS SB THREE
THIRTY TWO IS LOOKING TO PROTECT
TO THE NAMES OF INDIVIDUALS- WHO
ARE TRANSGENDER NON BINARY. OR
WHO ARE PART OF THE SAFE AT HOME
PROGRAM INDIVIDUALS WHO WHEN
THEY BECOME PROFESSIONALS MENTAL
HEALTH THERAPIST- ARE LOOKING TO
ENSURE THAT THE NAME THEY HAVE
LEGALLY IS ON THEIR LICENSE WHAT
WE'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW IS THAT
TRANSGENDER AND NON BINARY
INDIVIDUALS ARE BEING OUTED
BECAUSE THEIR LEGAL NAME DOES
NOT REFLECT DOESN'T ONLY BE. IS
NOT ONLY BE REFLECTED ON THE
ONLINE SYSTEM THE BRIEF SYSTEM
WHAT YOU'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW IS
INDIVIDUALS HAVE BEEN THEIR DAD
NAME OR THEIR NAME AT BIRTH ON
THE BREEZE SYSTEM ALONG WITH OUR
LEGAL NAME RIGHT UNDERNEATH. FOR
EXAMPLE YOU CAN HAVE AN
INDIVIDUAL THAT HAS A DAY NAMED
RACHEL. AND THE ONLY SYSTEM WILL
SAY RACHEL NAVARRO AND UNDER DO
YOU UNDERNEATH IT TO SAY TONY-
THAT WILL AUTOMATICALLY OUT AN
INDIVIDUAL YOU'RE ALSO SEEN
INDIVIDUALS WERE PART OF THE
SAFE. THE STATE SAFE AT HOME
PROGRAM THOSE WERE RUNNING AWAY
OR WHO ARE SEEKING PROTECTION
FROM HARASSMENT STALKING
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE HORLEY WHO ARE
LEGALLY CHANGE YOUR NAME ALSO
HAVE THEIR PREVIOUS NAME ON THE
SYSTEM- AVOIDING THEIR
PROTECTION WHAT THIS BILL IS
LOOKING TO DO IS TO ENSURE WE
BRING DIGNITY TO THESE THREE
DEMOGRAPHICS. TO ENSURE THAT
THEY'RE BEING PROTECTED NOW THE
QUESTION THAT I WILL BE
ANSWERING IS THAT WHAT HAPPENS
WHEN SOMEONE HAS AN ENFORCEMENT-
ARM. OF A PROFESSIONAL HAS ONE
LICENSE NUMBER. BUT THEY'RE
GIVEN AT THE BEGINNING OF THEIR
CAREER ON THAT LICENSE NUMBER
STAYS WITH THEM THROUGHOUT THEIR
ENTIRE CAREER. SHOULD SOMEONE
LEGALLY CHANGE YOUR NAME THEIR
LICENSE NUMBER DOES NOT CHANGE
WHATSOEVER SO ANY IF ENFORCEMENT
. ACTION THAT WAS TAKEN ON END
OF JOEL WOLFE. THEM PERMANENT
BECAUSE IT IS THE SAME WAY.
NUMBER NOW FOR NEW. THAT CALLS
IN BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO HAVE
TO BE PROACTIVE FOR THE
INDIVIDUAL CALL DCA AND SAY HEY.
I WOULD LIKE MY- MY NAME TO ONLY
REFLECT THIS- AND IF THEY HAVE
AN ENFORCEMENT ACTION IT WILL BE
ANNOTATED UNDERNEATH OR NOT
UNDERNEATH THEIR NAME THAT SAYS.
IN MORE ENFORCEMENT ACTION TAKEN
PLEASE CALL FOR FURTHER
INFORMATION. SO WE HAVE TAKEN
STEPS TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE
PROTECTING THE CONSUMERS SHOULD
THEY WANT TO KNOW AS AS THEY
SHOULD THEY HAVE THE RIGHT. TO
KNOW IF THERE IS AN FORSMAN
ACTION ON INDIVIDUAL WE'VE TAKEN
THE STEPS WE'VE TAKEN TECHNICAL
ASSISTANCE FROM DCA TO ENSURE
THAT THERE ARE STEPS. THERE ARE
PROTECTIONS TO ENSURE THAT THAT
IS- ANNOTATED THERE. AT THE END
OF THE DAY- WE WANT TO MAKE SURE
THAT WE'RE PROTECTING OUR MENTAL
HEALTH THERAPISTS ARE
PROFESSIONALS. ARE ENSURING THAT
THEY'RE NOT BEING OUT IN
ASSURING THAT THEIR NAME IS
LEGALLY- STATED ON THE DCA. SO
WITH THAT I'D LIKE TO MISTER
CHAIR WITH YOUR PERMISSION TURN
TO MY TO MY MISSUS THAT I HAVE
HERE WITH ME. THANK YOU FIRST
WITNESS PLAYS AND PACKED JUST TO
BE CLEAR DO YOU ACCEPT THE
COMMITTEE MA'AM I DO ACCEPT THE
COMMITTEE MOMENT THANK YOU FIRST
WITNESS. GOOD MORNING CHAIR AN
ESTEEMED MEMBERS MY NAME IS
DOCTOR TRISTEN BUSY. I AM A
LICENSED CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGIST
IN OUR STATE OF CALIFORNIA. FOR
THE MAJORITY OF MY FIFTEEN YEAR
CAREER I HAVE ALSO BEEN A CIVIL
SERVANT WORKING DIRECTLY WITH
SOME OF OUR MOST UNDERSERVED
VULNERABLE AND DANGEROUS PATIENT
POPULATIONS. I AM ALSO A
TRANSGENDER MAN. IT HAS BEEN
NEARLY A DECADE SINCE I WAS
GRANTED A CONFIDENTIAL COURT
ORDERED NAME CHANGE AND HAD MY
ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE
SEALED. THIS FACT IS DIRECTLY
CORRELATED WITH MY SAFETY AS A
TRANSGENDER MAN MY DAD NAME NAME
ASSIGNED AT BIRTH BEEN STRONGLY
ASSOCIATED WITH THE FEMALE
IDENTITY. MAKING AN IMMEDIATE
SOURCE FOR OUTING AS
TRANSGENDER. DESPITE THIS I HAVE
BEEN SUBJECT TO HARASSMENT. AND
THREATS LOSS OF JOB
OPPORTUNITIES AND INCOME AND IT
PUBLICLY OUTED WITHOUT MY
CONSENT AS A RESULT OF OUR
STATE'S CURRENT PRACTICE OF DEAD
NAMING TRANSGENDER AND NON
BINARY LICENSEES IN PUBLIC
RECORD. AS A RESULT OF THESE
DISCLOSURES I'VE BEEN TO SPEAK
WE REFERRED TO USING MY DAD NAME
BY DISGRUNTLED FORMER PATIENTS
AND COWORKERS. HAD NEW CLIENTS
REFUSE TO WORK WITH ME AND
CANCEL CARE ABRUPTLY. BEEN
THREATENED WITH VIOLENCE AND
SEXUAL HARM WORKING WITH
PATIENTS IN OUR CORRECTIONAL
ENVIRONMENTS. THAT SUBJECT TO
EXTORTION ATTEMPTS AND HAVE
PROVISIONAL JOB OFFERS RESCINDED
AFTER MY LICENSING RECORD WAS
TRACKED. CONSUMER PROTECTION HAS
BEEN CITED AS THE PRIMARY
OPPOSITION TO THE PASSAGE OF SB
THREE SEVENTY TWO. YET THE DE
ACTIVIDAD NAMING TRANSGENDER AND
NON BINARY LICENSEES PUT OUR LOG
PUTS OUR LIVES AND LIVELIHOOD AT
RISK ON A DAILY BASIS. WHICH
DROPPED DIRECTLY AFFECTS ACCESS
TO CARE FROM ETHICAL HARDWORKING
AND UPSTANDING PROFESSIONALS
INCREASING THE RISK OF HARM TO
BOTH LICENSEES AND CONSUMERS.
THE ACT OF DEAD NAMING
TRANSGENDER AND NON BINARY
LICENSEES AND PUBLIC RECORD IS A
DISCRIMINATORY PRACTICE THAT
IMPACTS OUR PROFESSIONAL AND
PERSONAL LIVES. AND IMPEDES OUR
ABILITY TO SERVE THE PUBLIC. THE
PASSAGE OF SB THREE SEVENTY TWO
WOULD ALLOW US TO ENGAGE IN OUR
WORK WITH RESPECT DIGNITY AND
SAFETY ALL PEOPLE DESERVE. I
THANK YOU SENATOR MENSCH OF OUR
FOR YOUR IMPORTANT WORK IN THIS
AREA AND THANK YOU CHAIRMAN AND
ESTEEMED MEMBERS URGING YOUR AYE
VOTE. FOR THANK YOU NEXT WITNESS
. MISTER CHAIR A GOOD MORNING
AND SEE MEMBERS THE COMMITTEE.
MY NAME'S JOHN TREBINJE SENIOR
OUT. FOR A LIVE. AFFAIRS AT THE
CALIFORNIA COUNCIL COMMUNITY
BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AGENCY CBJ.
ARE ASSOCIATION REPRESENTS
BEHAVIORAL HEALTH PROVIDERS
ACROSS THE STATE PROVIDING VITAL
MENTAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE USE
SERVICES TO OVER ONE MILLION
CALIFORNIANS. ASSEMBLY FOR YOU
IN STRONG SUPPORT OF SB THREE
SEVEN TWO AS A PROUD CO SPONSOR.
THIS BILL RECOGNIZES THE
IMPORTANCE OF SAFEGUARDING THE
RIGHTS AND SAFETY OF BOTH
PROVIDERS AND CONSUMERS. WHILE
PRESERVING TRANSPARENCY AND
ACCOUNTABILITY IT RESPECTS THE
JOURNEYS OF TRANS PROVIDERS. AND
PROTECTS THEIR RIGHT TO BE
RECOGNIZED AS WHO THEY TRULY
ARE. BY ALLOWING TRANS PROVIDERS
TO ALIGN THEIR PROFESSIONAL
IDENTITY WITH THEIR AUTHENTIC
SELVES SB THREE SEVEN TWO
FOSTERS AN ENVIRONMENT OF
INCLUSIVITY AND RESPECT. IT
ENSURES THAT THEY CAN SERVE
THEIR CLIENTS WITH CONFIDENCE
AND DIGNITY. PROMOTING TRUST
WHICH STRENGTHENS THERAPEUTIC
RELATIONSHIPS. IT'S IMPORTANT TO
NOTE THAT THIS BILL DOES NOT
HINDER CONSUMERS ABILITY TO FILE
COMPLAINTS WHEN NECESSARY. THE
AVENUES FOR ADDRESSING CONCERNS
AND ENSURING QUALITY CARE REMAIN
INTACT. OUR MEMBER AGENCIES
OFTEN EMPLOYED PROVIDERS WHO
HAVE TRANSITIONED AND WE HAVE
WITNESSED FIRST HAND THE
CHALLENGES THEY FACE DUE TO
OUTDATED REGULATIONS. SB THREE
SEVENTY WOULD RECTIFY THIS AND
PROVIDE THEM WITH THE PROTECTION
AND RECOGNITION THAT THEY
DESERVE. IN CONCLUSION I REQUEST
YOUR SUPPORT OF SB THREE SEVEN
TWO AS A VITAL STEP TOWARD
SAFEGUARDING THE RIGHTS AND
IDENTITY OF TRANS BEHAVIORAL
HEALTH PROVIDERS. AND ENSURING
THE SAFETY OF THEIR CLIENTS.
HELP US EMBRACE A FUTURE WHERE
INCLUSIVITY AND RESPECT. THRIVE
IN OUR BEHAVIORAL HEALTH
COMMUNITY THANK YOU. THANK YOU
BEFORE WE GO TO FOR WITNESSES
AND SUPPORT LET'S. A QUORUM
MASSACRED PLEASE CALL THE ROLL
MAIENSCHEIN HERE. SALIH CONNELLY
. XCENT HANEY. KALRA THE
CHECKOUT. HERE HAPPEN REYES YOUR
- LEE SANCHEZ. GREAT THANK YOU
ANY OF WITNESSES IN SOME. NAME
AN ORGANIZATION ONLY PLEASE.
GOOD MORNING CHERNOV MEMBERS
STARTING IN BIRD WITH ASKED ME
CALIFORNIA IN SUPPORT. GOOD
MORNING CHAIRED MEMBERS DR
CORINNE MCINTOSH TACO PRESIDEN
THE SACRAMENTO VALLEY
PSYCHOLOGICAL ASSOCIATION IN
STRONG SUPPORT THANK YOU. GOOD
MORNING KATHLEEN HOUSTON
LICENSED. MARRIAGE FAMILY
THERAPIST AND BOARD CERTIFIED
BEHAVIOR ANALYST IN STRONG
SUPPORT THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING
MY RIBS WITH PLANNED PARENTHOOD
AFFILIATES OF CALIFORNIANS
STRONG SUPPORT THE- GOOD MORNING
THE TICKETS ON AYE HERE ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA CHILD
AND ADOLESCENT PSYCHIATRY
ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT THANK YOU
. REBECA GONZALEZ NATIONAL
ASSOCIATION OF SOCIAL WORKERS
CALIFORNIA CHAPTER IN SUPPORT.
SO MY AND HER ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF
MARRIAGE AND FAMILY THERAPIST
FROM THE PROD CO SPONSORS OF THE
BILL THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING
JENNIFER ALLEY WITH THE
CALIFORNIA PSYCHOLOGICAL
ASSOCIATION CODES CO SPONSOR AND
SUPPORT. GOOD MORNING COREY HAS
SHE'D ON BEHALF OF THE STEINBERG
INSTITUTE IN SUPPORT. ONE MORE
WITH THE KIDS ON HERE ON BEHALF
OF THE CALIFORNIA MEDICAL
ASSOCIATION ALSO IN SUPPORT
THANK YOU. THANK YOU SEEN NO
FURTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION. SCENE
NINE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM
THE COMMITTEE MYSTICS. CAN YOU
HEAR ME OK I UNDERSTAND YOUR
PURPOSE I DON'T. OPPOSE YOUR
PURPOSE I JUST HAVE A QUESTION
THOUGH FOUR EIGHT OTHERS WHO
HAVE NOT GONE THROUGH- THEIR
NAME CHANGE PROCEDURE WHO MAY
HAVE BEEN. ARE RECEIVED AND
FORSMAN ACTION BY THE DEPARTMENT
OF CONSUMER AFFAIRS HOW WELL
THEIR- NAME AND THEIR NAME AND
POSTING BE LISTED BECAUSE I'M
CONCERNED THERE'S DESPAIR
TREATMENT BETWEEN THOSE HAVE
GONE THROUGH A NAME CHANGE IN
THOSE WHO HAVE IT AND HOW IS
THAT ENFORCEMENT. ACTION
DISPLAYED. IF I. UNDERSTAND YOUR
QUESTION CORRECTLY YOU'RE ASKING
INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE BEEN
LEGALLY CHANGED HER NAME HOW
THEIR THEIR RECORD TO SHOW THAT
THEY HAVE ENFORCEMENT ACTION
WELL BECAUSE YOUR BILL SAYS THAT
FOR CERTAIN WERE SPECIFIED
LICENSEES ARE REGISTRANTS. THE
BOARD WOULD BE PROHIBITED FROM
POSTING ENFORCEMENT ACTION SO
WHY WOULD THEY- TREAT EVERYONE
THE SAME IN TERMS OF JUST
LISTING THEIR LICENSE NUMBER OR
SAVE SEEK FURTHER. ANOTHER AS
YOU CALL THIS NUMBER FOR
INFORMATION WHY ARE YOU JUST
DIFFERENTIATING BETWEEN SOMEONE
WHO HASN'T CHANGED HER NAME BUT
THEY'RE ENFORCEMENT ACTION IS ON
THE WEBSITE VERSUS SOMEONE WHO
HAS CHANGED THEIR NAME AND YOU
HAVE TO GO THAT ONE EXTRA STEP.
THIS. A PERSON WHO IS NOT YET
CHANGE THERE YEAH. HER LICENSE
NUMBER AND THEIR NAME LISTED
UPON REQUESTING- OF THE NAME
CHANGE IT WOULD BE ATTACHED TO
THEIR LICENSING RECORD WITH THE
DEPARTMENT SINCE THE SAME. WE
THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING OKAY SO
SEE IF I UNDERSTAND THIS
CORRECTLY OKAY SO. FOR AN
INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS CHANGED HER
NAME- IT WOULD SAY ENFORCEMENT
ACTION TAKEN. CONTACT THE BOARD
FOR FURTHER INFORMATION TO GET A
FULL DETAIL OF EVERYTHING.
BECAUSE THEN THAT WOULD SHOW THE
DAD NAME OF THE INDIVIDUAL RIGHT
BECAUSE IT'S ATTACHED TO THE
PREVIOUS MAY I JUST ASK A
QUESTION AT THAT POINT. IT'S ONE
EXTRA STEP YOU'RE PUTTING TO
CONSUMERS TO HAVE TO CALL A
NUMBER OR CALL SOMEBODY WAIT ON
HOLD WAIT THIRTY DAYS TO FIND
OUT THE INFORMATION I IT SEEMS
TO ME THAT ANYONE WHO'S HAD
RECEIVED AND FORSMAN ACTION
SHOULD BE TREATED THE SAME. SO
MORALLY CALL THIS NUMBER FOR
EVERYBODY ONLY THINK IT'S
BECAUSE IT'S ATTACHED TO THE
PREVIOUS NAME. SO OTHER
INDIVIDUALS WHO WOULD HAVE IT
THERE IT'S NOT IT'S ATTACHED TO
THOSE SAME NAME THAT THEY HAVE.
BECAUSE THE PREVIOUS ACTION WAS
TAKEN WITH A PREVIOUS NAME IT
WOULDN'T SHOW RIGHT THEN AND
THERE BECAUSE IT WOULD STILL BE
OUT IN THAT INTO YOUR MAKING
YOUR CREATING. AN ENHANCED
BENEFIT I MEAN NOBODY PROBABLY
WANTS OR FOR SOME ACTION AND-
DISPLAY A HOW TO WEBSITE BUT
THAT'S SHOULD THAT'S SHOULD IT
TAKE THAT SHOULD BE THE CASE IF
THERE'S BEEN ENFORCEMENT ACTION.
SO BUT IF YOU'RE MAKING IT ONE
STEP PUT IT OUT ADDED LAYER OF
ACTION FOR THE PERSON WHO HAD
THE NAME CHANGE- THEY'RE GETTING
A BENEFIT I GUESS IS WHAT I'M
SAYING OTHER ENTITIES LIKE THE
STATE BAR HAVE BEEN DOING THIS
FOR YEARS NOW WHERE THEY- PUT A
NUMBER THAT CONSUMERS HAVE TO
CALL TO GET FURTHER INFORMATION
AS WELL WE REFLECTED THAT
PROCESS WITH WHAT. OTHER BOARDS
LIKE THIS I JUST FOR NAME CHANGE
PEOPLE ARE JUST ALL ENFORCEMENT
ACTIONS. THAT'S MY QUESTION IT'S
FOR ALL ENFORCEMENT ACTION AND
THAT WAY AND THE WAY THEY
UTILIZES THE SAME WAY WE'RE
REFLECTING THAT FOR THEM TO DO A
P. R. EIGHT AND IT WOULDN'T BE
THIRTY DAYS- SO OKAY THAT'S
OKAY. YOU'RE EDUCATING ME IF
YOU'RE SAYING THAT FOREIGN
PEOPLE WITH THE NAME CHANGE WITH
THE STATE BAR THEY GO THROUGH
THE SAME STEP WHAT ABOUT OTHER
PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN ENFORCED
AGAINST BY THE STATE. BAR DID
THEY HAVE TO GO. ARE THEY
TREATED THE SAME WAY SO THEY
HAVE TO GO THROUGH A P. R. A. R.
WHY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO ANSWER
WITH THE STATE BAR FOR AN ART.
OUR IN OUR SPECIFIC BILL- YOU
WOULD STE WE WERE IF WE. IN OUR
SPECIFIC THOUGH YOU WOULD STILL
AFTER CALL FOR IF YOU HAVE LEGAL
TRY. IF YOU HAVE HAD A LEGAL
CHANGE IF I'M ON. CORRECTLY YOU
WOULDN'T HAVE TO CALL. YOU'RE
WHAT YOU'RE MAKING A DE. YOUR
DIFFERENT WHICH I CANNOT. BE
PRINCE FOR. AND THE DIGNITY OF
AN INDIVIDUAL AND WE WORKED VERY
HARD TO ENSURE THAT THERE STILL
IS A PHRASE THAT SHOWS THERE IS
SOME FORSMAN ACTION BECAUSE IF
WE WERE TO DO IT. THE SUGGESTED
WAY. THIS BILL WOULD BE ME IT
WOULD BE. THAT HAVE NO IMPACT
BECAUSE YOU STILL WOULD BE OUT
IN THE INDIVIDUAL. YOU STILL
WOULD HAVE NO NO I DISAGREED
BECAUSE- EVERYBODY WOULD BE
TREATED THE SAME AND IF THE
GENDER. OR NAME CHANGE.
ENFORCEMENT ACTION DO YOU HAVE
TO CALL IF THERE'S NO J. NAME
CHANGERS AND ENFORCEMENT ACTION
YOU HAVE TO CALL AND SEE COULD
P. R. A. ARE. YOU JUST MAKING IT
EACH YEAR MAKING IT. EASIER FOR
PEOPLE. OF WHO. IF YOU SHALL BE
TREATED THE SAME. I GUESS I MY
POINT FOR RIGHT NOW WE'RE
TREATING THEM. THE SAME AND IT'S
NOT WORKING BECAUSE IT'S OUT IN
PEOPLE. RIGHT WHEN THEY TREAT
EVERYBODY THE OTHER WAY MAKE
THEM ALL GO THROUGH P. R. A. R.
WELL I DO LIKE I CAN TAKE THAT
BACK IN FIVE YEARS. ASIAN OKAY.
MY QUESTION THANK YOU. THANK YOU
OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION FOR
MISTER KALRA. THIS IS THE SECOND
FROM HIS RACE I THINK- MISTER
SALIH. SAID JUST DEFAULT QUICK
QUESTION- IT IS STRIKING A
BALANCE RIGHT BETWEEN THE
INDIVIDUALS. DIGNITY PROTECTIONS
FROM HARASSMENT ETCETERA VERSUS
THE NEED FOR THE PUBLIC TO BE ON
NOTICE IF PEOPLE HAVE-
VIOLATIONS ON THERE. SO WHY NOT
INSTEAD OF SAYING CALLING NUMBER
WE CAN'T JUST HAVE A QUICK
SUMMARY OF WHAT THE VIOLATION IS
JUST LIKE. VIOLATION YOU KNOW
THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE RIGHT
IF I'M LOOKING AT IT THERAPIST
OR WHATEVER IT'S LIKE WELL THEY
DIDN'T PAY THEIR DUES. VERSES
THEY LIED ABOUT SOMETHING- THEY
WERE VIOLATED FOR VIOLATING
SOME. SOME ETHNIC RULE WHY CAN'T
WE JUST HAVE THE A SUMMARY OF
WHAT THE- ENFORCEMENT ACTION IS
BECAUSE I DO THINK IT IS A BIG
BARRIER FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE. TO
CALL IN AND HAVE TO DEAL WITH
THE BUREAUCRACY TO GET THAT
INFORMATION AND NOW THEY MIGHT
WITNESS ANSWER THE SECOND PART
BUT I WOULD SAY THE FIRST PART-
IF YOU RIGHT NOW WERE TO GOOGLE.
FIND THE NEAREST MENTAL HEALTH
THERAPIST BY ME. FIND ONE IN
SACRAMENTO YOU COULD DO THAT
RIGHT NOW. YOU WON'T SEE THIS
ONLINE SYSTEM POP UP NOT EVEN
YOUR FIRST THREE OR FOUR LINKS.
THAT'S NOT WE'RE CONSUMERS GO.
CONSUMERS WILL THEN CLICK ON A
LINK SAYS MENTAL THERAPIST BY
SACRAMENTO HE WOULD FIND A
DIFFERENT ENTITIES SO YOU'D GET
A BIO FROM THEM. THAT'S ALL
MAJORITY OF CONSUMERS
FUNDAMENTAL THERAPIST. YOU HEARD
FROM ONE OF MIGHT WITNESSES THIS
ONLINE SYSTEM IS USUALLY USED.
BY EMPLOYERS TO GET INFORMATION
TO CONFIRM THAT YOUR ARE IN FACT
A LICENSED MENTAL THERAPIST. TO
THEM LOOKING BACK TO SEE THAT
AND CONFIRM THAT YOU HAVE DON'T
HAVE ENFORCEMENT ACTION- SO THIS
IS REALLY MOSTLY FOR EMPLOYER
POTENTIAL EMPLOYERS TO LOOK AT
YOUR HISTORY. HAS BECAUSE THE
CONSUMER. WILL NOT BE GOING
THROUGH THE SYSTEM WHATSOEVER.
BUT WE DID. WE THE AMENDMENTS WE
TOOK BOTH AUTHOR BOTH MINE AND
THE COMMITTEES IS TO HELP. WITH
MOSTLY THE EMPLOYERS TO BE ABLE
TO TRACK. SO IT IS AN EXTRA STEP
FOR THE EMPLOYERS. NOT SO MUCH
FOR THE CONSUMERS BECAUSE-
BELIEVE ME THEY'RE NOT GOING
THROUGH THE SYSTEM BUT- BY. IT
SENATORS SO FOR EXAMPLE SHOULD I
HAVE HAD A PREVIOUS ENFORCEMENT
ACTION- TAKEN UNDER ME WHICH I
HAVE NOT BUT SHOULD I HAVE.
THERE IS A- CURRENTLY IF YOU
WERE TO LOOK ME UP ON THAT PRE
SYSTEM IT WOULD SAY MY CURRENT
NAME AND MY DAD NAME AND THEN
THERE WILL BE A PDF ATTACHED
WITH AN ABORTION ACTION
UNDERNEATH ALL PEOPLE OF
ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS HAVE THIS
PDF ATTACHED TO IT YEAH. SO MY
UNDERSTANDING OF THE UPDATES TO
THE CURRENT BILL IS THAT THE
NAMES WILL BE RE REDACTED FROM
THAT. THE ENFORCEMENT ACTION AND
THAT THEY WOULD CALL FOR FURTHER
INFORMATION ABOUT THE TO GET THE
ORIGINAL NAME UNDER THE REQUEST
BUT IT WOULD STILL BE PULLED UP
UNDER MY LICENSE RECORD. SO FOR
EXAMPLE IF SOMEONE PUT IN
LICENSE NUMBER. TWO SEVEN NINE
SEVEN THREE. THE ENFORCEMENT
ACTION ATTACHED AND THEN STILL
WOULD. WOULD ASK FOR THEM TO
CALL FOR THAT UPDATED
INFORMATION AND THERE IS AN
ASSOCIATION IN THE SENSE THAT WE
WERE YOU'RE SAYING THE
ENFORCEMENT ACTION IS STILL
DISPLAYED ON THE- ON THE RECORD
IS IT REDACTED REDACTED VERSION
UPSTANDING. OF THAT'S A REALLY
IMPORTANT DISTINCTION. WHAT IS
CURRENTLY HAPPENING. THAT THAT
WILL THAT WILL AFFECT MY VOTE.
YES I'M- I CAN'T ANSWER THAT
QUESTION RIGHT NOW- MAYBE I
DON'T HAVE DONE THAT. IF THERE'S
A REDACTED. ENFORCEMENT IF THE
ENFORCEMENT RECORDS ARE
REDACTED. AND ASSOCIATED WITH
THE LICENSEE I WOULD SUPPORT
THIS. SO IF WE CAN GET THAT
ANSWER TODAY THAT'S FINE I'LL
I'LL- WE'LL GET THAT BEFORE THE
POWER BUT THE CASHIER. OKAY IT
IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU
KNOW DISABLE IT DISCLOSE THOSE
RECORDS UPON REQUEST. OKAY OKAY.
MR CHECKUPS. I OF THIS FOLLOW ON
THAT- SO MY MIND. DOT WERE. AND
SO WITH THE AMENDMENTS- BE THAT
IF THERE WERE. WORD AND
ENFORCEMENT ACTION- SAY FOR
INSTANCE I LOOK UP THE NUMBER.
OF AND I SEE BELOW WELL IT SAVES
ALL THERE HAS BEEN ENFORCEMENT
ACTION BUT YOU HAVE TO CALL OR
WILL IT SAY ENFORCEMENT ACTION
AND ATTACHED IS ENFORCEMENT
ACTION BUT THE NAMES WILL BE
REDACTED. SO ONE OF THE MOST
RECENT AMENDMENTS WE TOOK- FROM
DCA ON TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE
BECAUSE IN A PREVIOUS COMMITTEE
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT WAS EVEN
MORE CLEAR AND MORE EXPLICIT ON
HOW SOMEONE TO BE ABLE TO SEE
THE ENFORCEMENT- ACTION. IS THAT
. ONE WOULD STILL BE ABLE TO
TELL IF A LICENSE HAS BEEN
ENFORCEMENT RECORD. EVEN IF YOU
HAVE THE CON IF YOU EVEN IF YOU
HAVE TO CONTACT THE BOARD TO SEE
THOSE RECORDS SO. IT IS JUST
FURTHER CLARIFYING AND WE CAN
EVEN GO BACK TO DCA BECAUSE
WE'VE BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH
WITH THEM I'M TO EVEN MAKE IT
MORE SPECIFIC ABOUT UPON
SEARCHING SOMEONE. ON THE ON THE
LICENSEE SYSTEM YOU WOULD BE
ABLE TO BE. BE ABLE TO SEARCH
THAT BECAUSE IT'S MY
UNDERSTANDING RIGHT NOW THAT YOU
WILL BE PROMPTED TO CONTACT THE
BOARD TO GET FURTHER
INFORMATION. AND WE JUST MADE IT
EVEN MORE CLEAR THAT. THERE IS
AN ENFORCEMENT ACTION WITHOUT
SPECIFICALLY SAYING EVERY AT.
THIS CLOTHING EVERYTHING- BUT
MORE THAN HAPPY. BECAUSE I WILL
SAY THIS HAS OPENED UP A NEW
QUESTION THAT NO ONE HAS ASKED
ME YET- IN MORE AND BE MORE THAN
WILLING TO. MAKE IT EVEN FURTHER
CLEARER BEFORE WE GET TO
APPROPRIATIONS SHOULD BE GETS
APPROPRIATIONS. AND THEN A GOING
ONE MORE- WHEN A QUESTION SO SAY
FOR INSTANCE SAW. THERE THERE
ARE. SO THE PRESENCE THERE WAS
NO ENFORCEMENT ACTION. ROB YOU
LOOK UP THE NUMBER AND THEN
BELOW IT WOULD JUST YOU WON'T
SEE ANYTHING NORM FORSMAN
ACTION. IS THAT CORRECT WOULD
YOU SAY YOU DON'T MAKE MAYBE I
COULD MAYBE I CAN BE HELPFUL IF
WE AT THE IF YOU LOOK AT
SECTION. AND MORE I REMEMBER SIX
ONE SECTION TWENTY SEVEN POINT
FIVE- TO BE. IT SAYS NOT WITH
ANY OTHER OFFER LICENSEES ARE
RED REGISTERED SUBJECT TO
SUBPARAGRAPH A- I AM REFERENCING
THE INDIVIDUALS FORMER NAME OR
GENDER AS APPLICABLE THE BOARD
SHALL NOT POST ENFORCEMENT
RECORDS ONLINE. BUT SHALL
INSTEAD POST ONLINE A STATEMENT
STATING THAT THE INDIVIDUAL
PREVIOUSLY WAS SUBJECT TO
ENFORCEMENT ACTION. AND THEN
BELOW THAT IN SECTION C. IT
STATES OF A PUBLIC SEARCH OF THE
ONLINE LICENSE VERIFICATION
SYSTEM IS PERFORMED USING THEIR
LICENSEES OR REGISTRANTS FORMER
NAME THAT WAS PUT REPLACE
PURSUANT TO SUBPARAGRAPH NA. THE
BOARD SHALL PASS POST AN ONLINE
STATEMENT DIRECTING THE PUBLIC
TO CONTACT THE BOARD FOR MORE
INFORMATION ABOUT THE LICENSEE
OR REGISTRANT. SO THAT'S WHAT IT
WOULD CONTAIN UNDERNEATH THERE
WE JUST HAD IF THAT'S HELPFUL
YEAH WE JUST HAVE THAT
STATEMENT- BUT IF NOT IF THE
PERSON DIDN'T HAVE AN IMPORTANT
ACTION THAT STATEMENT WOULD BE.
OMITTED TO ASSEMBLY. YES IT
WOULD HAVE THE NAME. BUT IT
WOULD COVER I BUILT IN MY BELIEF
IT WOULD COVER WHAT MR. SALIH
WAS ASKING. OKAY ANY OTHER
FURTHER QUESTIONS ARE COMPANIES
REST. SUNTRUST WANNA THANK YOU
FOR THE BILL QUITE FRANKLY- AND
TRYING TO WORK WITH THOSE WHO
OPPOSED IT UNLESS AMENDED AND
TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE
AMENDMENTS. AND THEN TELLING US
RIGHT OFF THE START WELL I'VE
ALREADY I WANT TO ANSWER THE
QUESTION BEFORE YOU ASK IT- AND
MADE MORE QUESTIONS- BUT- NONE
THE LESS IT'S CLEAR THAT YOU'RE
TRYING TO WORK WITH- WORK WITH
THE PARTIES TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT
THE BEST WAY. WE KNOW WHAT
YOU'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH-
YOU'VE ALREADY TAKEN SOME
AMENDMENTS THAT TOOK CARE OF
PART OF THAT WITH- WHAT THE BIKE
MY COLLEAGUES ARE BROUGHT UP-
TREATING. IT IF EVERYBODY HAS A
NOTE ON THERE IS A SAYS- FOR
CEMENT QUESTIONS CALL THIS
NUMBER. OF THAT I THINK THAT'S
WHAT MYSTICS AND IS SAYING IF
EVERYBODY HAS THE SAME THING AS
OPPOSED TO ONLY IF YOU HAD A
NAME CHANGE. BECAUSE IT MAY
RAISE A RED FLAG ALSO- WHY DO WE
HAVE TO MAKE A PHONE CALL- SO
THAT THAT THAT THAT'S A POINT
WELL TAKEN. BUT I THANK YOU FOR
WORKING WITH THE OPPOSITION TO
COME UP WITH SOME AMENDMENTS
THAT. ADDRESSED IT BECAUSE
CLEARLY YOU'RE TRYING TO TAKE
CARE OF THE ISSUE AND TRYING TO
TAKE CARE OF THE OPPOSITION SIDE
THANK YOU FOR THAT THANK YOU
MAJORITY LEADER YES YOU KNOW AT
THE END OF THE DAY I WANT TO
MAKE SURE. AND WE'RE TALKING.
WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
TREATING EVERYONE EQUALLY IF
YOU'RE- ABOUT AG- THEN YOUR
INFORMATION SHOULD BE SHOWN THAT
YOU'RE A BAD EGG- WITH YOUR
TRANSGENDER OR NOT- SO WE'LL
DEFINITELY TAKE THIS BACK. IF
YOU ALLOW ME TO GET OUT OF THIS
COMMITTEE WOULD CAN PROMISE TO
TAKE IT BACK AND FURTHER
CLARIFIED BECAUSE THAT IS. ABOUT
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I'M
LOOKING TO ENSURE WE STRIKE A.
GOOD COMPROMISE WITH THANK YOU-
SO WE'LL TAKE ISSUE CLOTHES WE
HAVE THEM. AND S. AND THE MOTION
IS TO PASS AS AMENDED TO THE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE ASKED
THE COURT TO PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL. MAIENSCHEIN AYE
MAIENSCHEIN AYE A SALIH. NOW GO
TO CALMLY. CALMLY IDEX. HANEY
HANEY I KALRA I'VE KALRA I'VE
CZECHO. THE CZECHO IP IN. REYES
ALL RIGHT REYES LEE. SANTA. YOUR
BILL IS OUT THANK YOU THANK YOU
COMMITTEE MEMBERS- I'D ASK FOR A
MOTION ON THE ITEM NUMBER ONE SB
SIXTY- BURKE. MOTION FOR HIS
RASP SECOND FOR MISTER CONNELLY.
AND THE MOTIONS TO PASTOR PROBES
ACEKARD PLEASE CALL THE ROLL
MAIENSCHEIN HI MAIENSCHEIN AYE
SALIH. AYE SALIH AYE CONNOLLY.
CONNELLY I'D DIXON HANEY. ANIE
KALRA. BUT CZECHO HI THE CZECHO
I POP IN REYES. I RES IDOLI
SANCHEZ HI SANCHEZ I. WILL CALL
AT THE BILL THAT'S OUT WE'LL
CALL ITEM NUMBER THREE SB THREE
EIGHTY FIVE ATKINS- MISS ASHBY'S
HERE TO PRESENT. AND ALLOW US
ASK FOR MOTION ON THE CONSENT
AGENDA. SECOND MEASUREMENT REYES
SAID FROM MISTER HANEY THAT
CONSENT GENIC INCLUDES ITEMS- SB
NINE CORTEZ C. SB FOUR TWENTY
EIGHT LAKE SUPERIOR SB SIX
THIRTY DODD SB SEVEN TWELVE
PORTANTINO SB SEVEN FIFTY SIX
LAIRD. ASK THE COURT TO PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL MAIENSCHEIN HI
MAIENSCHEIN I. S. SALIH HI SALIH
I CON. CONNELLY I TOOK HANEY
FEIGNING KALRA BUT CZECHO THE
CHECK OUT I'VE HAPPENED REYES
FIVE REYES IDLY SANCHEZ SANCHEZ
I. CONSENT IS OUT HI I TO
PRESENT ANOTHER BILL AN ATTORNEY
OUR VICE MASSAGE BE MADE ON- SB
. EIGHTY FIVE ATKINS THANK YOU
SO MUCH I THANK YOU HAVING ME
COME YEAH IT'S AN HONOR BE HERE
TO S. THREE EIGHT FIVE ON BEHALF
OF OUR SO PRESIDENT PRO TEM. I
ABOUT A WEEK HAS PASSED SINCE
OUR DO. IN ORDER TO THE DOG
OUTCOME AS WE KNOW LAST YEAR
BROUGHT US A LOT OF ISSUES IN
TERMS OF REPRODUCTIVE FREEDOM
PEOPLE FACED UNPRECEDENTED
THREATS FROM THE SUPREME COURT
AND OTHER STATES. SINCE THEN
CALIFORNIA'S BEEN TAKING BOLD
ACTION TO PROTECT AND EXPAND
ACCESS TO QUALITY REPRODUCTIVE
CARE AS OTHER STATES CONTINUE TO
ERODE ACCESS TO ABORTION IT'S
CLEAR THAT WE NEED TO REMAIN
STEADFAST IN CALIFORNIA. TO THAT
END SB THREE EIGHT FIVE WOULD
IMPROVE REPRODUCTIVE CARE
TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES FOR
PHYSICIANS ASSISTANTS AND ENABLE
THEM TO PROVIDE FIRST TRIMESTER
ABORTIONS WITHIN THE SCOPE OF
THEIR CLINICAL AND PROFESSIONAL
EDUCATION AND TRAINING. THIS
BUILDS OFF THE SUCCESS OF
SENATOR PRO TEM ATKINS PRIOR
BILLS TO STRENGTHEN ACCESS TO
ABORTION AND INCREASE THE NUMBER
PROVIDERS IN OUR STATE. IN TWO
THOUSAND THIRTEEN AB ONE FIVE
FOUR WAS ENACTED TO ALLOW NURSE
PRACTITIONERS CERTIFIED NURSE
MIDWIVES AND PHYSICIANS
ASSISTANTS TO PROVIDE FIRST
TRIMESTER ABORTIONS. LAST YEAR
SENATOR ATKINS AUTHORED SB
THIRTEEN SEVENTY FIVE TO UPDATE
TRAINING STANDARDS AND ADDRESS
WORKFORCE BARRIERS FOR NURSE
PRACTITIONERS. AND CERTIFIED
NURSE MIDWIVES SEEKING TO
PROVIDE FIRST TRIMESTER ABORTION
CARE. SB THREE FIVE WOULD APPLY
THE SAME TRAINING STANDARDS TO
POSITION ASSISTANCE. AND S. B.
THAT SB THIRTEEN SEVENTY FIVE
ESTABLISH FOR THOSE
PRACTITIONERS AND MIDWIVES. THIS
BILL IS A COMPLEMENTARY FOLLOW
UP TO THE PRIOR BILLS AND WOULD
FURTHER STRENGTHEN AND EXPAND
THE ACCESS TO REPRODUCTIVE CARE
WHILE ALSO LIFTING UP A
WORKFORCE OF SKILLED POSITIONS
ASSISTANCE. GIVING THEM MORE
OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEIR PATIENTS
I RESPECTFULLY ON BEHALF OF THE
PRO TEM ASK FOR YOUR AYE VOTE
AND I HAVE WITH ME SOME SUPPORT
WITNESSES WILL BE BRIEF IN THEIR
COMMENTS I KNOW YOU HAVE A
PACKED AGENDA. THESE ARE NOT
UNFAMILIAR FACES TO YOU MISS
MOLLY ROBSON WITH PLANNED PARENT
AFFILIATES FOR CALIFORNIA AND
RYAN SPENCER WHO'S HERE ON
BEHALF THE AMERICAN. COLLEGE OF
OBGYN. MOTION BY MISS REYES
SECOND BY MISTER HANEY AND-
PLEASE GO AHEAD. THANKS GOOD
MORNING MOLLY ROBSON WITH
PLANNED PARENTHOOD AFFILIATES OF
CALIFORNIA WE REPRESENT THE
SEVEN AFFILIATES IN THE STATE
WHO OPERATE OVER A HUNDRED AND
TEN HEALTH CENTERS AND PROVIDE.
ONE POINT THREE MILLION PATIENT
VISITS ANNUALLY I HERE TODAY IN
SUPPORT OF SB THREE EIGHTY FIVE.
I WILL CUT THIS DOWN- SB THREE
EIGHTY FIVE IS GOING TO UPDATE
THE TRAINING STANDARDS FOR
PHYSICIAN ASSISTANTS FOR
ABORTION TO BE IN LINE WITH THAT
OF OTHER ADVANCED PRACTICE
CLINICIANS- TO CONTINUE TO MEET
THE NEEDS OF PATIENTS COMING
CALIFORNIA FOR CARE AND THE
PATIENTS IN THE STATE. IT'S
CRITICAL THAT OUR PORTION
WORKFORCE REMAIN- STRONG AND THE
FOLKS THAT WANT TO BE TRAINED IN
ABORTION ARE ABLE TO BE TRAINED
IN ABORTION AND PROVIDE THAT
CARE. SO WITH THAT I WOULD
RESPECTFULLY URGE YOUR SUPPORT
ON THIS BILL TODAY TO SUPPORT
THE ABORTION WORKFORCE IN
CALIFORNIA THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
THEY MISTER RYAN SPENCER BEHALF
OF THE AMERICAN COLLEGE OF OBGYN
STRYCHNINE I SUPPORT THE
MEASURE- I'LL BE ROOF AS WELL A
CAUCUS LONG SUPPORTED THE
ASSISTANCE OF TRAINED ADVANCED
PRACTICE CLINICIANS LIKE PA'S TO
PERFORM. AND TO ASSIST
PHYSICIANS IN PROVIDING
IMPORTANT SERVICES RELATED TO
REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH CARE AND
THIS INCLUDES THE ABILITY
PERFORMED FIRST TRIMESTER
ABORTIONS WITHIN THEIR SCOPE. SB
THREE FIVE INSURERS PA'S ARE
SUFFICIENTLY ADEQUATE TRAINED
REFORM FIRST TRIMESTER
ASPIRATION. BOTH SAFELY AND
EFFECTIVELY. THIS BILL
APPROPRIATE LINE THEIR TRAINING
WITH THOSE OF NURSE
PRACTITIONERS AND NURSE MIDWIVES
AS BRIEFLY STATED AND APPROVED
LAST YEAR. AND NOTHING MORE IT'S
A SIMPLE YET VERY IMPORTANT
BILL. THE VERY SIGNIFICANT
IMPACT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME
AND ASK FOR A VOTE. THANK YOU
THERE ANY WITNESSES IN SUPPORT
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND
POSITION. GEN CHASE UNIVERSITY.
OF AND SUPPORT. CAN STOP A BAD
OF NARAL PRO. CALIFORNIA IS A AS
THE COLOR. NURSES ASSOCIATION
AND- THE YOU. TIFFANY MATTHEWS
ON BEHALF OF ATTORNEY GENERAL
ROB BONTA IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
SEE NO OTHER WITNESSES ARE THERE
ANY WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION.
KNOW WHAT THIS IS IN OPPOSITION-
COMMITTEE. TO BRING IT BACK TO
THE COMMITTEE ANY QUESTIONS. OF
YOUR CLOSE. PRETTY
STRAIGHTFORWARD BILL NEED A
TRAINED WORKFORCE URGENT AYE
VOTE THANK YOU THANK YOU-
CALLED. MOTIONS TO PASS TO
PREPARATIONS MAIENSCHEIN A SALIH
. CONNOLLY CONNELLY I DIXON
MAINI. HANEY I KALRA THE CZECHO
. THE CZECHO I POP IN REYES.
REYES I LEAVE. SANCHEZ SENT NO.
OKAY MISTER BOTTLES DOWN CALL
ALL RIGHT THANK YOU VERY MUCH I
HAVE ONE MORE. YEAH WILL CALL
ITEM NO A LOT. S. SEVEN THIRTY
ONE. YES THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY
TO PROCEED YES PLEASE ALL RIGHT
THIS ONE IS MY OWN THIS IS SB
SEVEN THREE ONE IT IS A RETURN
TO OFFICE NOTIFICATION ACT. AS
YOU ALL KNOW MANY OF THE
EMPLOYERS IN CALIFORNIA ARE NOW
STARTING TO SEND PEOPLE BACK TO
THE WORK PLACE AFTER. TWO OR
MORE YEARS OF REMOTE WORKING
ALSO DON'T HAVE TO TELL THIS
BODY THAT- THERE ARE CERTAIN
GROUPS THAT HAVE BEEN
DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACTED BY.
A BIG CHANGES IN NOW WORK FORCE
BEING AT HOME VERSUS BEING IN A
BUILDING THAT WE'RE MORE
ACCUSTOMED TO WELL REMOTE WORK
HAS PROVIDED SOME FLEXIBILITY
FOR EMPLOYEES TO MANAGE THEIR
JOBS AND FAMILY
RESPONSIBILITIES. TRANSITIONING
BACK TO IN PERSON WORK REQUIRES
ADJUSTMENTS THAT MAY IMPACT
THEIR PERSONAL LIVES I JUST URGE
YOU TO THINK FOR A MOMENT ABOUT
THE CHANGES THAT MADE FOR YOU I
HAD CHILDREN AT HOME DOGS AT
HOME. ALL OF THAT HAD TO BE
CHANGED ONCE I WENT BACK TO THE
WORK PLACE THAT HAS TO HAPPEN
FOR EVERYBODY WORKING MOMS AND
PARENTS THE ADEQUATE TIME TO
ARRANGE THAT CHILD CARE
RESTRUCTURE SCHOOL SCHEDULES
DROP OFF AND PICK UP THE WHOLE
THING. EMPLOYEES WHO RELY ON
PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION OR DO NOT
HAVE RELIABLE TRANSPORTATION
NEED TO COORDINATE TRAVEL
CARPOOL ALL THE THINGS THAT WE
DO ON A DAILY BASIS. AND LASTLY
IN POTENTIALLY MOST IMPORTANTLY
EMPLOYEES WITH DISABILITIES.
NEED TIME TO EXPLORE ALTERNATIVE
WORK ARRANGEMENTS SUCH AS
REQUESTING REMOTE WORK THROUGH
DISABILITY ACCOMMODATIONS.
ADJUSTING THEIR WORK HOURS OR
FINDING ALTERNATIVE WORK OPTIONS
AS WE KNOW THERE WERE MANY
PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES WHO
WERE ABLE TO WORK FROM HOME BUT
ARE NOT ABLE TO DO THE SAME
JOBS. WHEN ASKED TO GO BACK TO A
WORK PLACE. SO SB SEVEN THREE
ONE IS VERY SIMPLE IT AIMS TO
ENSURE THE EMPLOYERS GIVE THIRTY
DAYS TO THEIR EMPLOYEES- NGUYEN
SO THEY HAVE THE NECESSARY TIME
TO MAKE ARRANGEMENTS BEFORE
RETURNING TO IN PERSON WORK.
THIS BILL ALSO REQUIRES
EMPLOYERS TO PROVIDE INFORMATION
TO EMPLOYEES. ABOUT THEIR RIGHT
TO REQUEST DISABILITY
ACCOMMODATIONS ENSURING THAT
EMPLOYEES WORK IN GOOD FAITH
WITH THEIR DISABLED WORKFORCE. I
HAVE A COUPLE OF REALLY AMAZING
WITNESSES WITH ME TODAY THAT
I'M- SUPER PROUD TO HAVE WITH ME
AND I THINK YOU'LL LOVE MEETING
THEM. AT SCOTT RICHMOND IS THE
FORMER PRESIDENT AND CURRENT
BOARD MEMBER OF THE ASSOCIATION
OF CALIFORNIA STATE. EMPLOYEES
WITH DISABILITIES AND BOBBY
TEACHERS THE PRESIDENT. OF THE
ASSOCIATION OF CALIFORNIA STATE
EMPLOYEES WITH DISABILITIES AND
CO CHAIR OF THE STATE WHY
DISABILITY ADVISORY COUNCIL TO
THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT. OF
HUMAN RESOURCES AND THEY BOTH
HAVE BRIEF COMMENTS FOR YOU AS
WELL. THANK YOU CENTER ASHBY
GOOD MORNING. UP MY NAME IS
BOBBY DATA AND AS SENATOR SAID I
COCHAIR STATEWIDE DISABILITY
ADVISORY COUNCIL. AND CURRENT
PRESIDENT OF ACCESS OR
ASSOCIATION. OF STATE EMPLOYEES
WITH DISABILITIES. AS YOU KNOW
COBIT NINETEEN PANDEMIC HAS A
SIGNIFICANT IMPACT. WAIT WORK.
ANY EMPLOYEES WITH DISABILITIES
HAVE FOUND THAT WORKING FROM
HOME HAS ALLOWED THEM. TO BETTER
MANAGE THEIR DISABILITIES AND BE
MORE PRODUCTIVE. SB SEVEN THIRTY
ONE WOULD ENSURE THAT THESE
EMPLOYEES CAN CONTINUE. WORKING
FROM HOME IF THEY SO CHOOSE OR
AT VERY LEAST DO YOU HAVE SOME
MINIMAL NOTICE. A RETURN TO WORK
ENVIRONMENT. THERE ARE SEVERAL
REASONS WHY SB SEVEN THIRTY ONE
IS IMPORTANT. FIRST WORKING FROM
HOME. CAN IMPROVE THE HEALTH AND
WELLBEING OF EMPLOYEES WITH
DISABILITIES. FOR EXAMPLE
EMPLOYS WITH MOBILITY IMPAIRMENT
CAN AVOID THE STRESS AND
FATIGUE. OF COMMUNITY AND
EMPLOYEES WITH CHRONIC HEALTH
CONDITION CAN AVOID EXPOSURE. TO
GERMS AND ALLERGENS SECOND
WORKING FROM HOME CAN IMPROVE
THE PRODUCTIVITY OF EMPLOYEES
WITH DISABILITIES FOR EXAMPLE.
I'M A STATE EMPLOYEE WITH A
DISABILITY REQUIRING CERTAIN
ACCOMMODATION I GET THOSE
ACCOMMODATION WORKING FROM HOME
FROM MY REMOTE LOCATION IF I AM
CALLED TO WORK. TOMORROW I WOULD
NEED A LITTLE BIT OF NOTICE TO
NEGOTIATE MY ACCOMMODATION NEEDS
WITH MY EMPLOYER THAT WILL ALSO
GIVE STATE EMPLOYER SOME TIME TO
GET THE PROCUREMENT THAT THEY
NEED FOR ME TO RETURN TO WORK.
THIS IS ALSO AN ISSUE OF EQUITY
MANY PEOPLE THAT PROVIDE WHO ARE
SINGLE PARENTS OR PROVIDE CARE
TO YOUNG CHILDREN. CAN RETURN TO
WORK WITH SOME NOTICE AND MAKE
ALTERNATE ARRANGEMENTS FOR THEIR
YOUNG FOLKS AT HOME. AND THIS IS
A QUESTION OF EQUITY I FEEL LIKE
THIS WILL STRONGLY SUPPORT THE
BASES THAT THE FOUNDATION. OF
THE BILL IS EQUITY OUR FAIRNESS
AND FUNDAMENTAL VISION SO I
STRONGLY URGE YOU TO SUPPORT
THIS BILL THANK YOU SECOND
WITNESS SCOTT. GOOD MORNING
CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE
COMMUNITY MY NAME IS SCOTT
RICHMOND. THE IMMEDIATE PAST
PRESIDENT AND CURRENT
LEGISLATIVE CO CHAIR OF THE
ASSOCIATION OF CALIFORNIA STATE
EMPLOYEES WITH DISABILITIES. I'M
HERE TODAY TO TESTIFY IN STRONG
SUPPORT OF S. B. SEVEN THIRTY
ONE. I THINK SENATOR ASHBY IS
DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOB AT
TRYING TO BALANCE THE INTERESTS
OF BOTH EMPLOYEES AND EMPLOYERS.
FROM THE STANDPOINT OF A PERSON
WITH A DISABILITY- JUST TO GIVE
YOU A LITTLE BIT OF AN EXAMPLE-
I WAS REALLY WORRIED A MINUTE
AGO WHETHER I'D BE ABLE TO FIND
THE MIKE- ONE THING THAT IS VERY
IMPORTANT FOR US AS PEOPLE WITH
DISABILITIES. IF WE HAVE TIME TO
WORK OUT THE LOGISTICS OF
ACCOMMODATION- WE CAN PERFORM
JOBS AS WELL AS ANYBODY BUT YOU
FOR THE CALL BACK TO WORK. ON A
SNAP DECISION BY OUR MANAGERS-
THAT MAY NOT BE THE CASE.
SENATOR ASHBY'S BILL PROVIDES
THIRTY DAYS NOTICE AND ALSO
PROVIDE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE THAT
ENABLES. PEOPLE WITH
DISABILITIES TO WORK WITH THEIR
EMPLOYER TO ARRANGE FOR AN
ACHIEVE THE ACCOMMODATIONS THAT
THEY NEED AND- LET'S FACE A LOT
OF US HAVE BEEN WORKING FROM
HOME QUITE WELL FOR ABOUT THREE
YEARS NOW AND- THEY REALLY FOR
MOST REASONS THERE'S NO REASON
FOR THAT NOT TO CONTINUE-
SENATOR ASHLEY'S BUILT SORT OF
TAKES THE ARBITRARINESS OUT OF
THE PROCESS- AND BASICALLY
PROVIDES A MECHANISM WHERE THE
INTERESTS OF ALL PARTIES CAN BE
FACTORED- THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
ALLOWING ME TO TESTIFY TODAY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH ARE THERE ANY
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT IN THE ROOM
. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND
POSITION PLEASE. GOOD MORNING
GREGORY KRAMER ON BEHALF OF
DISABILITY RIGHTS CALIFORNIANS
SUPPORT. THANK YOU SEEING YOU
KNOW OTHERS SPEAKERS ANY OTHER
IF IS THERE ANY WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION. OKAY SAYING NO
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION IS THE
COMMITTEE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS
COMMENTS YESTERDAY I JUST WANT
TO THANK THE SENATOR FOR YOUR
WORK ON THIS THIS IS- ENTIRELY.
REASONABLE AND NECESSARY I KNOW
THAT THERE WAS JUST AN
INCREDIBLE I CHANGED THE WAY
THAT PEOPLE WORK DURING THE
PANDEMIC AND- I THAT HAS IN SOME
CASES BEEN POSITIVE FOR PEOPLE
AND GIVING PEOPLE OPPORTUNITIES
TO WORK AND CONTRIBUTE IN NEW
WAYS. I AND AS WORK CONTINUES TO
CHANGE AND ADAPT THIS IS HAVING
HUGE IMPACTS ON PEOPLE'S LIVES
PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES AND
WITHOUT AND SO THIS TYPE OF
NOTICES IS CRITICAL AND
ESSENTIAL IN THIS IS. THE SECOND
TIME I'VE SEEN THIS BILL AND
JUST REALLY GRATEFUL FOR ALL OF
YOU FOR COMING TOGETHER FOR THIS
IT'S GOING TO IMPACT. MANY
PEOPLE IN IN POSITIVE WAYS AND
HELP THEM- AS THE ADJUSTING
CONTINUE TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE
WORK PLACE AND THE BEST AND MOST
APPROPRIATE WAY POSSIBLE. THANK
YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP THANK
YOU VERY MUCH ASSEMBLY MEMBER
ANY OTHER COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
ASSEMBLY MEMBER IS THERE A
MOTION. OUR MOTION BY MISS
REYES. SECOND MISSED BY MR
CZECHO- AND WILL CALL VOTE- SIR
DO YOU LIKE CLOSE. I JUST THINK
MY WITNESSES IT'S YOU NO BIG
DEAL FOR THEM TO MAKE THEIR WAY
DOWN HERE TO TESTIFY FOR YOU AND
I'M REALLY GRATEFUL ALWAYS FEEL
REALLY PROUD TO HEAR THEM SPEAK
THANK YOU AYE ARJUN AYE BOAT. K.
MOTIONS TO PASS TO REFER
APPROPRIATIONS MAIENSCHEIN SALIH
. CONNOLLY FINALLY I'D- HANEY.
HANEY I KALRA CHECK OUT HI CHECK
OUT I. PAP REY. FIVE REYES AYE
LEE SANCHEZ. SANCHEZ I NEED
TWENTY NEEDS ONE MORE PHOTO
BIANCA. ALL RIGHT THANK YOU VERY
THANK SO MUCH. AND OUR NEXT-
BILL WILL BE SB FOUR SEVENTY
EIGHT BY SENATOR DODD. YES IS.
NUMBER SENATORS. OR IS. GOOD
MORNING DOG GOOD. I JUST IN AND
MEMBERS. I PLEASED AS FOUR
SEVENTY. A BILLS BY THE ATTORNEY
IN THE- LOW INCOME. CONSUMER
COALITION THAT SEEKS TO COMBAT
COMBAT THE DECEPTIVE PRACTICE IN
WHICH A SELLER ADVERTISES OF AN
ARTIFICIALLY LOW PRICE. TO
ATTRACT THE CUSTOMER BEFORE
SPRINGING ADDITIONAL UNAVOIDABLE
CHARGES LATER IN THE BUYING
PROCESS. SIMPLY PUT FOR SEVENTY
EIGHT MAKES IT UNLAWFUL UNDER
THE CONSUMER LEGAL REMEDIES ACT
C. L. R. A. TO ADVERTISE PRICE
FOR GOOD OR SERVICE IT DOES NOT
INCLUDE ALL REQUIRED CHARGES
OTHER THAN TAXES AND FEES
IMPOSED BY GOVERNMENT ON A
TRANSACTION. WE'VE ALL FIX FELT
THAT PAIN- BUT HIDDEN FEES FROM
UNAVOIDABLE RESORT FEE AT YOUR
HOTEL TO THE OUTRAGEOUS FEES
THAT ARE ADDED- TWO CONCERT
TICKETS JUST BEFORE YOU GO TO
CHECK OUT THESE BEES HIDE THE
TRUE PRICE TO MANIPULATE
CONSUMERS INTO OVERSPENDING. THE
ISSUE OF HIDDEN FEES ARE JUNKIES
HAS GARNERED NATIONAL ATTENTION
WITH PRESIDENT BIDEN CALLING ON
CONGRESS TO TAKE ACTION ON
DECEPTIVE PRICE ADVERTISING.
HIDDEN FEES COST TO CONSUMERS
BILLIONS OF DOLLARS EACH YEAR IN
HER CALIFORNIA FAMILIES AT THE
TIME THAT THEY CAN LEAST AFFORD
IT. THIS PRACTICE NOT ONLY MAKES
BUDGETING DIFFICULT FOR
CONSUMERS BUT ALSO HARMS ALL
THIS BUSINESSES IT DISCOURAGES
COMPETITION AND ULTIMATELY LEADS
TO HIGHER PRICES WITHOUT ANY
CORRESPONDING BENEFIT TO
CONSUMERS. SOME OPPOSITION
GROUPS CLAIM THE EXISTING LAWS
ARE SUFFICIENT IN ADDRESSING THE
ISSUE OF FALSE ADVERTISING BUT
THE MAGNITUDE OF THE PROBLEM AT
HAND SPEAKS FOR ITSELF. WE NEED
MORE ENFORCEMENT TOOLS NOT LESS
. FOR THAT REASON THE BILL
UTILIZES EXISTING ENFORCEMENT
MECHANISMS ALLOW ALLOWABLE UNDER
THE C. L. R. A. TO ENSURE THAT
CONSUMERS HAVE THE PROTECTIONS
THEY DESPERATELY NEED. LASTLY AS
THE BILL MOVES FORWARD I'LL
CONTINUE TO ENGAGE WITH
STAKEHOLDERS IN GOOD FAITH TO
ADDRESS EXISTING STATE OR
FEDERAL TRANSPARENCY LAWS OR
CONSIDER ADDITIONAL
CLARIFICATIONS THE BILL WALLOP
HOLDING IMPORTANT CONSUMER
PROTECTIONS. I HAVE TWO
WITNESSES TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF
THE BILL ANTHONY LIEU OF BEHALF
OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL AND TED
BERMAN DIRECTOR OF THE
CALIFORNIA LOW INCOME CONSUMER
COALITION. THANK YOU YOU HAVE
TWO MINUTES COMBINING WITH THE
CHAIR- MY NAME'S ANTHONY DEPUTY
IN THE AG'S LEGISLATIVE OFFICE.
AT BONTA IS PROUD TO SPONSOR AS
BEFORE SEVENTY EIGHT TO BRING AN
END TO HIDDEN FEES IN CALIFORNIA
. I'M HALF OF THE AG I WANT TO
THANK SENATORS DIED IN SKINNER.
FOR AUTHORING THIS IMPORTANT
LEGISLATION TO PROTECT
CALIFORNIA CONSUMERS AS THE
SENATOR DESCRIBED THE BUSINESSES
USE HIDDEN FEES THE PITCHER
ARTIFICIALLY LOW HEADLINE PRICE
TO ATTRACT THE CUSTOMER BEFORE
REVEALING. THE EDITION OF
CHARGES LATER IN THE BUYING
PROCESS. THESE HIDDEN FEES ARE
BAD FOR CONSUMERS AND BAD FOR
COMPETITION WE ALL KNOW HOW
FRUSTRATING IT IS TO GET TO THE
CHECK OUT. TO GET TO THE POINT
OF PURCHASE AND FIND OUT THAT
SOMETHING ADVERTISED AS ONE
PRICE ACTUALLY COSTS. MUCH MORE
. OBSCURING THE TRUE PRICE OUR
PRODUCT OR SERVICE MAKES IT HARD
FOR CONSUMERS TO CHOOSE THE SORT
BY PRICE AND MAKE THE DECISION
THAT IS BEST FOR THEM AND THEIR
FAMILY AT THE OUTSET OF A
TRANSACTION. TO PLAN AND TO
BUDGET THIS LACK OF TRANSPARENCY
ALSO MAKES IT HARD FOR US AN
HONEST BUSINESSES TO COMPETE ON
PRICE. WE'RE SEEING THIS
DECEPTIVE PRICE PRICING SCHEME
ADOPTED IN MANY INDUSTRIES AND
RATHER THAN MOVING TOWARDS
TRANSPARENCY SOME BUSINESSES ARE
CHOOSING. TO HIDE THE TRUE COST
TO THE CONSUMER. WE KNOW AT
LEAST 85% OF AMERICANS HAVE
ENCOUNTERED AN UNEXPECTED HIT IN
THE OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS
ACCORDING TO RESEARCHERS.
THERE'S NO REASON TO TOLERATE
HIDDEN FEES THESE DON'T PLEASE
COST CONSUMERS BILLIONS OF
DOLLARS EACH YEAR AND HURT
WORKING FAMILIES AND TIME WHEN.
EVERY DOLLAR MATTERS THAT MUCH
MORE. THIS DECEPTIVE PRACTICE
ALSO HURTS BUSINESSES THAT ARE
DOING BUSINESS THE RIGHT WAY BY
BEING TRANSPARENT ABOUT THEIR
PRICES. THIS NECESSITATES
LEGISLATIVE ACTION. THAT'S
BEFORE SEVENTY EIGHT WOULD
PROHIBIT THE PRACTICE WITH
CHARGING HIDDEN MANDATORY FEES
IT WOULD PROHIBIT ADVERTISING A
PRICE FOR A GOOD OR SERVICE DOES
NOT INCLUDE. ALL REQUIRED
CHARGES OTHER THAN TAXES AND
FEES IMPOSED BY GOVERNMENT ON
THE CONSUMERS TRANSACTION. IT'S
A SIMPLE SOLUTION AND WITH THIS
LEGISLATION CALIFORNIA WOULD
MAKE CLEAR THAT THE PRICE. YOU
SEE SHOULD BE THE PRICE HE PAYS
SO. EIGHTY BONTA URGES ARE AYE
VOTE ON THIS IMPORTANT
LEGISLATION AND HAVE MY
COLLEAGUE. MICHELLE VAN GARDEREN
TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU
MIGHT HAVE AFTER- TIED RIBBONS-
TESTIFIES. THANK YOU SIR YOU
HAVE TWO MINUTES I THINK HER
CHAIR AND MEMBERS MY NAME IS TED
MERMAN. I'M HERE TODAY ON BEHALF
OF ONE OF SB FOUR SEVENTY EIGHT
CO SPONSORS THE CALIFORNIA LOW
INCOME CONSUMER COALITION CLICK.
TO EXPLAIN WHY THIS BILL MEANS
SO MUCH TO CALIFORNIANS LIVING
ON THE FINANCIAL AGE. CLICKS
MEMBERS PROVIDE FREE LEGAL
SERVICES TO THE STATE'S MOST
VULNERABLE RESIDENTS. DAY AFTER
DAY WE HEAR FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE
BARELY GETTING BY THEY'RE
MANAGING TO HOLD ON. BUT OUR ONE
SURPRISE CHARGE AWAY FROM
FALLING OFF AN ECONOMIC CLIFF.
THESE THE PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD TO
PAY THAT HIDDEN 20% CONVENIENCE
FEE FOR A RESTAURANT DELIVERY
SERVICE WHEN THEY DON'T HAVE
TIME TO COOK OR- THE SERVICE FEE
FOR A CONCERT TICKET THEY'D
SAVED UP FOR THEIR DAUGHTER'S
BIRTHDAY. AS YOU HEARD 85% OF
AMERICANS HAVE ENCOUNTERED THESE
SURPRISE FEES. 96% OF THOSE
PEOPLE SAID THEY DO NOT LIKE
THEM. AS PRESIDENT BIDEN
OBSERVED IN THE STATE OF THE
UNION ADDRESS THIS YEAR QUOTE
JUNK FEES MAY NOT MATTER TO THE
VERY WEALTHY. BUT THEY MATTER TO
MOST FOLKS. AND THE WHITE HOUSE
HAS GOTTEN ORAL COMMITMENTS FROM
SOME BIG COMPANIES TO MEND THEIR
WAYS BUT THOSE COMMITMENTS DON'T
MEAN MUCH. IF THERE'S NO LAW TO
BACK THEM UP. THIS ISN'T GOING
TO ACT. BUT WE BELIEVE THIS
LEGISLATURE WILL. HONESTY IN
PRICE ADVERTISING HAS BEEN
REQUIRED IN THIS STATE FOR MORE
THAN A HUNDRED YEARS. THE DRIP
PRICING TREK HAS INFECTED A LOT
OF INDUSTRIES. PERHAPS YOU HAVE
HEARD FROM THEM. WE KNOW ABOVE
BOARD BUSINESSES DON'T WANT TO
DECEIVE CONSUMERS. BUT HOW ARE
THEY SUPPOSED TO COMPETE WHEN
THE STORE DOWN THE BLOCK IS
ADVERTISING A PRICE. THAT
DOESN'T INCLUDE ALL MANDATORY
FEES. SB FOUR SEVENTY EIGHT
WOULD ESTABLISH A LEVEL PLAYING
FIELD. TO BENEFIT BOTH
BUSINESSES AND CONSUMERS WE
RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR AYE VOTE.
THANK YOU ARE THERE ANY
WITNESSES ADDITIONAL WITNESSES
IN SUPPORT. WE STATE YOUR NAME
AND POSITION. GOOD MORNING MR
VICE CHAIR MEMBERS ROBERT
TERRELL EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF
THE CONSUMER FEDERATION OF
CALIFORNIA A WE SUPPORT THE BILL
AND VIEW IT AS AN IMPORTANT
FLOOR. BEYOND WHICH THE
LEGISLATURE COULD GO IN SPECIFIC
INDUSTRIES YOU VERY MUCH- GOOD
MORNING US EMMA GOODMAN HERE ON
BEHALF OF KIM STONE OF STONE
ADVOCACY- REPRESENTING THE
CALIFORNIA DISTRICT ATTORNEYS
ASSOCIATION HERE IN SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING DANNY
COUNTERCULTURE ON BEHALF OF THE
NATIONAL CONSUMER LAW CENTER IN
SUPPORT THANK YOU. I MEAN HE'S A
MONEY WITH THE CALIFORNIA TRAVEL
ASSOCIATION THANK YOU TO THE
AUTHOR AND SPONSORS FOR WORKING
AT WITH US WILL HAVE A POSITION
BUT WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING
THE AMEND CEMEX COMMITTEE.
THANKS THANK YOU ARE THERE ANY
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION. THIS
REPORT. THANK GOOD MORNING MR
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS ROBERT MUTRIE
CALIFORNIA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE
AND WE ARE RESPECTFULLY. POST AS
BEFORE SEVENTY EIGHT FIRST I'D
LIKE TO THANK STAFF FOR THEIR
HOUSE THE BILL- WHICH I THINK
COVERS I THINK THE POSITIONS AND
THE POINTS PRETTY WELL. I WANNA
BE CLEAR WE ARE NOT HERE IN
DEFENSE OF THE HIDDEN FEES ISSUE
OUR CONCERN IS WITH THE WAY THE
BILL APPROACHES THIS- WE'VE
SPOKEN TO THE AUTHOR AND SPONSOR
TO THIS AND I APPRECIATE THE-
THE ANALYSIS OF KNOWLEDGE IN
THIS POINT TO THAT THERE ARE
ALREADY- TOOLS FOR THE AG TO
PURSUE SUCH ACTIONS. THE
SHUTDOWN OF PUBLICUS CAR
DEALERSHIP WHICH BY FREAK OF
CHANCE I WAS AT A FIRM THAT WAS
DEFENDING HIM AT A ONE OF A
STRING SO I WAS A FIRSTHAND
WITNESS TO THAT AND I WILL TELL
YOU IS VERY EFFECTIVE IN
SHUTTING HIM DOWN- OUR CONCERN
WITH THIS CHANGE IS THAT IT
CREATES A NEW PRIVATE RIGHT OF
ACTION ISSUE FOR US WHICH AGAIN
IS A KNOWLEDGE IN THE ANALYSIS
AND APPRECIATED- AND THAT IS
KIND OF WHERE OUR CONCERN IS
FOCUSED. WE HAVE TRIED TO SPEAK
THE AUTHOR AND SPONSOR ABOUT
LIMITING THAT SPECIFIC CONCERN
BUT HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO RESOLVE
THAT PIECE- SECOND I WANNA FLAG.
AS I THINK THE- AUTHOR AND
SPONSOR RECOGNIZE THERE'S A
NUMBER OF INDUSTRIES THAT HAVE-
CONCERNS ABOUT CONFLICTING
OBLIGATIONS FEDERALLY AND
SPECIFIC INDUSTRIES TAKE
REGULATIONS. I WANT TO THANK THE
AUTHOR AND SPONSOR FOR WORKING
ON ADDRESSING THOSE SPECIFIC
PIECES AND HAS BEEN SOME OF THE
EVENTS THAT AFFECT. I KNOW
OTHERS ARE STILL LOOKING TO WORK
ON THOSE- SO IT THOSE ARE THE
TWO BROAD CONCERNS FOR US AND
AGAIN IT'S NOT ABOUT THE COR
GOAL OF THE BILL AND CLEAR
PRICING. BUT ABOUT THE METHODS
TO GET THERE. ARE FOR THOSE
REASONS WE ARE RESPECTFULLY POST
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION. THE.
STATE YOUR NAME AND POSITION.
MISTER MEMBERS GORDON JOHNSON
BEHALF OF C. JACKING OPPOSITION
. THE ANY NEW TARGET WITH
TECHNOCRACY BUCKLEY OPPOSE BUT
VERY MUCH APPRECIATE ONGOING
CONVERSATIONS WITH THE AUTHOR
AND SPONSOR. GOOD MORNING TURN
MEMBERS NAMELY PUT JOHN ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA CREDIT
UNION LEAGUE. AND OPPOSITION BUT
ALSO APPRECIATE THE CONTINUED
CONVERSATIONS WITH THE AUTHOR OF
THIS THANK YOU THANK YOU. INDERA
MCDONALD HERE ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA MORTGAGE BANKERS
ASSOCIATION RESPECTFULLY OPPOSE
UNLESS AMENDED. J. SELAIN
CALIFORNIA BANKERS ASSOCIATION
OPPOSE UNLESS AMENDED. GOOD
AFTERNOON MR CHAIRMAN REYES
ANTHONY SAMPSON ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA NEW CAR DEALERS
ASSOCIATION. C. AND C. D. A. WAS
NOTED AS OPPOSED IN THE
COMMITTEE ANALYSIS BUT I'D LIKE
TO CLARIFY. THAT THEIR POSITION
IS ACTUALLY NEUTRAL BASED ON THE
AMENDMENTS DATED MAY EIGHTEENTH
AND WE APPRECIATE THE AUTHOR IN
THE SPONSOR FOR WORKING WITH A-
GOOD MORNING JOHN MOFFETT ON
BEHALF OF THE ALLIANCE FOR
AUTOMOTIVE INNOVATION ENTERPRISE
RENTAL CAR OPPOSE UNLESS AMENDED
PRESHEAF THE AUTHOR AND SPONSORS
ONGOING CONVERSATIONS WITH US.
THANK YOU- SEEING NO OTHER
WITNESSES- TURN IT OVER TO THE
COMMITTEE YES THIS PARTICULAR.
SO THANK YOU TO THE AUTHOR- AND
I SEE THAT YOU'RE WORKING WITH
OPPOSITION. AND I WILL BE
SUPPORTING THE BILL TODAY AND I
LOOK FORWARD TO IMPROVING THIS
BILL- I AND I KNOW YOU WILL
CONTINUE TO WORK WITH OPPOSITION
AND I. WANT TO THANK YOU FOR
DOING THAT. THANK YOU. SEEING NO
OTHER COMMITTEE MEMBERS- TURN IT
BACK TO YOU TO CLOSE SENATOR
DODD. YES I RESPECTFULLY ASK DR-
WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS WILL
CONTINUE TO WORK WITH- YOU KNOW
THE OPPOSITION. BUT AT THE END
OF THE DAY. WE'VE GOT TO GET
THIS RIGHT. AND IT'S ALL ABOUT
TRANSPARENCY. HE HAD- YOU'RE
ADDING ON FEES TO THE COST OF
DOING BUSINESS AFTER THE FACT.
IS I JUST THINK WHETHER YOU'RE
POOR OR YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF
MEANS. IT'S A MAJOR ANNOYANCE I
RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR AYE VOTE
THANK YOU SENATOR I DO HAVE A
MOTION. A MOTION BY MISS REYES.
SECOND BY MISTER CONNELLY WILL
CALL VOTE. MOTIONS TO PASS TO.
PRIVACY AND CONSUMER PROTECTION
COMMITTEE MAIENSCHEIN A SALIH.
SALIH NO CONNELLY. CONNELLY I
DIXON MAINI. HANEY I KALRA THE
CZECHO. CZECHO I PABON REYES HI
RES IDOLI SANCHEZ. SANCHEZ NO. I
NEED TO MORE VOTE SO BE ON CALL
THANKS THANK YOU THAT YOU
MEMBERS. OUR OUR NEXT- BATTER
WILL BE FIVE ITEM NUMBER FIVE S.
SIX TWO SENATOR CORTESE. BY THE
CALLING YEAH. BERMAN THANK.
BRIAN'S GONNA BE SO. THREE
GOOD MORNING CENTER YOU MAY
BEGIN WHEN YOU'RE READY. GOOD
MORNING NUMBERS TO SHARE IN
MEMBERS THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING
ME 2% SB SIX FORTY TWO- TO YOU
TODAY SB SIX FORTY TWO GIVES
COUNTY COUNCIL'S THE SAME
AUTHORITY TO PROSECUTE HAZARDOUS
MATERIALS VIOLATIONS. AS CITY
ATTORNEY'S DISTRICT ATTORNEYS IN
THE ATTORNEY GENERAL AUTHORIZING
ADDITIONAL PUBLIC PROSECUTOR
SUIT TO PROSECUTE THESE
VIOLATIONS CAN HELP TO PROTECT
OUR COMMUNITIES. PARTICULARLY
LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES AND
COMMUNITIES OF COLOR IN YOUR
HAZARDOUS WASTE FACILITIES. IN
NINETEEN NINETY THREE THE
LEGISLATURE PASSED AB NINETEEN
THIRTY FOUR TO AUGMENT CIVIL
ENFORCEMENT OF HAZARDOUS WASTE
VIOLATIONS THAT BILL AMENDED THE
HAZARDOUS WASTE CONTROL WATER
AUTHORIZES COUNTY COUNCILS TO
PROSECUTE THESE VIOLATIONS AND
PROMOTE A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD
FOR THE REGULATED COMMUNITY.
HOWEVER THE LEGISLATURE DID NOT
AT THAT TIME MAKE CONFORMING
CHANGES TO SEVERAL IT IS
STATUTES SUCH AS A HAZARDOUS
MATERIALS BUSINESS PLAN PROGRAM
AND MEDICAL WASTE PROGRAM. THIS
INCOMPLETE AUTHORITY LIMITS
COUNTY COUNCIL'S ABILITY TO
EFFECTIVELY PROSECUTE POLLUTERS
FOR EXAMPLE. YUP THE ABOVE
GROUND PETROLEUM STORAGE I
PROGRAM REQUIRES CERTAIN
PETROLEUM STORAGE FACILITIES TO
DEVELOP AND IMPLEMENT THE SPILL
PREVENTION CONTROL AND
COUNTERMEASURE. A VIOLATION OF
THOSE REQUIREMENTS COULD LEAD TO
AN OIL SPILL WHICH CAN OF COURSE
CAUSE RESPIRATORY DAMAGE LIVER
DAMAGE CANCER RISK PREFERRED
REPRODUCTIVE DAMAGE AMONG MANY
OTHER ISSUES. SB SIX FORTY TO
HELP COMMUNITIES PROSECUTE
VIOLATIONS LIKE THESE HELPING TO
MORE COMPLETELY ENFORCED
CALIFORNIA'S HAZARDOUS WASTE
BECAUSE IT GIVES CERTIFIED
UNIFIED PROGRAM AGENCIES.
OTHERWISE KNOWN AS COOPER HAS
THE CHOICE TO REFER THESE CASES
TO A WIDER RANGE OF PROSECUTORS.
THAT'S WHY THE COOPER SUPPORT
THE BILL THE BILL ALSO WAS A
SUPPORT ENVIRONMENTAL
ORGANIZATIONS THAT CAN SPEAK TO
THE CONSEQUENCES. OF UNDER
ENFORCEMENT OF HAZARDOUS
MATERIAL BECAUSE- THE BILL WAS
RECENTLY AMENDED. THE REQUIRED
NOTICE TO BE PROVIDED TO THE DA
OR COUNTY COUNCIL WHEN THEIR
COUNTERPART FALLS IN ACTION
FOLLOWING A REFERRAL FROM THE
COOPER. THIS WAS DONE IN
RESPONSE TO CONCERNS RAISED BY
THE CALIFORNIA DISTRICT
ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION. WHO I
WOULD ALSO NOTE THAT THE BILL
SUPPORTED BY LOS ANGELES
DISTRICT ATTORNEY GEORGE GASC ON
HIS PART OF THE PROGRESSIVE
PROSECUTORS ALLIANCE WITH ME. TO
TESTIFY TODAY. WE HAVE SONIA
WILLS WITH THE COUNTY SANTA KERR
AND JOHN KENNEDY WITH RURAL
COUNTY REPRESENTATIVES OF
CALIFORNIA- IN WITH THAT AT THE
APPROPRIATE TIME INDUSTRY RIVAL
. THANK YOU SO MUCH YOU HAVE TWO
MINUTES. THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR
AND THANK YOU TO THE COMMITTEE
AND THE STAFF FOR YOUR WORK ON
THIS BILL. SANTA CLARA COUNTY IS
PLEASES COSPONSORED SB SIX FORTY
TWO AM GRATEFUL TO SENATOR
CORTEZ HE AND HIS STAFF FOR
BRINGING IT FORWARD. THE
COMMITTEE'S ANALYSIS IS SIMPLY
HIGHLIGHTS ALL OF THE KEY POINTS
FIRST THIS BILL IS A CLEAN UP
MEASURE MULTIPLE SENSES THE
LEGISLATURE SOUGHT TO GIVE
COUNTY COUNCIL'S HAZARDOUS WASTE
ENFORCEMENT AUTHORITY IN
NINETEEN NINETY THREE. TO
PROMOTE A MORE LEVEL PLAYING
FIELD FOR THE REGULATED
COMMUNITY. THE BILL SIMPLY PUTS
COUNTY COUNCILS ON THE SAME
BASIC FOOTING AS THEIR FOUR
HUNDRED EIGHTY TO SEE THE CITY
ATTORNEY COUNTERPARTS. AND HELPS
FILL GAPS IN ENFORCEMENT. SECOND
THIS BILL MAHER'S RECENT
LEGISLATION THAT EXPANDS THE
SCOPE OF COUNTY COUNCIL'S
AUTHORITY. THE LEGISLATURE HAS
BESTED SETTLE PROSECUTORIAL
AUTHORITY AND COUNTY COUNCILS IN
NUMEROUS STATUTES INCLUDING THE
UNFAIR COMPETITION LAW. THE
FALSE ADVERTISING LAW NARCOTICS
ABATEMENT ACT UNLICENSED
CANNABIS PROVISIONS IN THE
PUBLIC NUISANCE ACT. THIS
REFLECTS THE GROWING ROLE OF
COUNTY COUNCILS AS THE CHIEF
CIVIL LAW AND CIVIL LAW
ENFORCEMENT AGENT OF COUNTY
GOVERNMENTS. THIRD ARGUMENTS
ABOUT THE USE OF OUTSIDE COUNSEL
ON A CONTINGENCY FEE BASIS ARE
OVERBLOWN OUTSIDE COUNSEL CAN BE
HELPFUL IN A JURISDICTION LACKS
RESOURCES OR IS TAKING ON A
POWERFUL INDUSTRY. SUCH AS ONE
SANTA CLARA COUNTY COUNCIL
SPEARHEADED SPEARHEADED LANDMARK
LITIGATION AGAINST LEAD PAINT
MANUFACTURERS. COURTS HAVE
UPHELD THIS PRACTICE INCLUDING
BY DISTRICT ATTORNEYS CENTER TO
APPROPRIATE OVERSIGHT BY THE
PUBLICLY ACCOUNTABLE PROSECUTOR.
AND IS THE NOW SAYS NOTES ON
PAGE FIVE ANY CASE BROUGHT BY
THE COUNTY COUNCIL CAN ONLY
HAPPEN WHEN THERE'S A REFERRAL
FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF TOXIC
SUBSTANCES CONTROL OR THE
COOPER. THIS REFERRAL PROCESS
NEGATES POTENTIAL CONCERNS ABOUT
SO CALLED BOUNTY HUNTING AND
FINALLY THESE PRACTICES ARE
RELATIVELY RARE AND FAR FIELD OF
THIS BILL WHICH SIMPLY GIVES
COUNTIES AND OTHER ENFORCEMENT
TOOL IN THE TOOLBOX. I URGE YOUR
. AYE VOTE AND I'M HAPPY
ANSWERING QUESTIONS. THANK YOU
YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. GOOD
MORNING JOHN CANNON WITH A C. R.
WE WERE. FORTY OF THE STATE'S
FIFTY EIGHT COUNTIES OUR
POPULATIONS RANGE FROM ELEVEN
HUNDRED TO FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND
PEOPLE. WE'RE PLEASED TO SPONSOR
SB SIX FORTY TWO HERE TODAY WITH
OUR COLLEAGUES BECAUSE AS SHE
MENTIONED A PROVIDES ANOTHER
TOOL IN THE TOOLBOX FOR LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS TO ADDRESS SAFETY
RELATED VIOLATIONS ABOVE GROUND
STORAGE TANK UNDERGROUND STORAGE
TANK. HAZARDOUS MATERIALS
BUSINESS PLAN AND MEDICAL WASTE
MANAGEMENT LAWS VIOLATIONS OF
THESE LAWS COULD POSE SERIOUS
DANGERS TO PUBLIC HEALTH SAFETY
AND THE ENVIRONMENT. THIS
INCLUDES THE FIRST RESPONDERS
LIKE FIREFIGHTERS WHO HAVE TO
RESPOND- AND NEED TO KNOW WHAT
CHEMICALS ARE ON SITE SO THEY
CAN. PROTECT THEIR SAFETY WHEN
THEY'RE TRYING TO PUT OUT FIRES
AND NOT CREATE ADDITIONAL
CHALLENGES. WE'RE NOT SEEKING TO
ADDRESS ANY PAST PROBLEMS OR
VIOLATIONS BUT MERELY TO PROVIDE
ADDITIONAL FLEXIBILITY IN THE
FUTURE. THIS FLEXIBILITY IS EVEN
MORE IMPORTANT AND RURAL
COMMUNITIES WHERE WE HAVE FEWER
RESOURCES AND WE HOPE WE CAN
WORK COOPERATIVELY WITH OUR
LOCAL DJS. IF THE ISSUE DOESN'T
RISE TO THE LEVEL OF THE AG
BRINGING AN ACTION IN THE D.
EIGHT DOESN'T HAVE THE RESOURCES
BECAUSE THEY'RE OTHERWISE
FOCUSED ON SOME OTHER CRIMINAL
CASES. OR THINGS LIKE ILLEGAL
MARIJUANA ENFORCEMENT- THIS
WOULD ALLOW THE LOCAL COUNTY
COUNCIL TO STEP IN AND ENSURE
THAT THESE- VIOLATIONS ARE
ADDRESSED- FOR THIS REASON WE
ARE AGAIN. PROUD TO CO SPONSOR
THIS BILL URGE YOUR- I VOTE ON
THIS BILL BECAUSE IT WILL
IMPROVE FLEXIBILITY FOR LOCALS
GOING FORWARD. THANK YOU ANY
OTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT NAME
AN ORGANIZATION ONLY PLEASE. YOU
CAN'T BELIEVE IT WRONG COUNTY OF
LOS ANGELES PROVIDE SERVICE AND
SUPPORT. IT A WELDER ABAFT THE
CALIFORNIA STATE ASSOCIATION OF
COUNTIES WHICH IS A PROUD CO
SPONSOR OF THIS BILL AS WELL AS
LOS ANGELES DISTRICT ATTORNEY
GEORGE GASCON AND FAITH IN
SUPPORT. AS A SIMILAR SHALLOW
WATER AND WE SMELLS ARE LYING
ABOUT AS LONG COUNTY SUPERVISOR
IN SUPPORT YOU. GOOD MORNING
JOSH DUGGAR ON BEHALF OF THE
URBAN COUNTIES OF CALIFORNIA IN
SUPPORT THANKS. THANK YOU SEEN
NO FURTHER WITNESSES AND SUPPORT
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION. SCENE
NINE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM
THE COMMITTEE. WE HAVE A MOTION
. MOTION FOR MS REYES SECOND
MISTER HANEY. AT CENTER COURT AS
HE MAY CLOSE. I RESPECTFULLY ASK
YOUR AGO THANK YOU THE MOTION IS
TO PASS AS A CLERK TO PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL MAIENSCHEIN HI
MAIENSCHEIN I IS SALIH. COM
CONNELLY IDEX MAINI. HANEY I
CALL. BUT CZECHO CZECHO I PAP.
REYES REYES I LI SANCHEZ.
SENTIFI. YOUR BILL IS. THERE YOU
IF NEXT UP IS MISTER MEN PLEASE-
APPROACH. I AM NUMBER. SEVEN THE
BILL SIX SIX. THE PROGRAM I DO
KNOW I WAS TRYING TO THINK TO
SAY THE AND I COULD I COULDN'T
FIGURE OUT THE DAMAGES. SEVEN
ADDRESS I DON'T KNOW A DEVIL OF
A PROBLEM YOU YEAH. A CO WE'RE
GONNA LET YOU HEAR BILL THIS
THAT SAID MR. I GOT MORE. GOT IT
MAKE YOU MAY PRESS I THANK YOU
MISTER CHAIRMAN COMMITTEE MEMBER
SB SIX SIX WOULD PROHIBIT WORK
SPECIFIC JUNK FEES PER ON SMALL
THE- DURING THE COME FIND PROP.
SMALL BUSINESSES WERE OF COURSE
HIT VERY HARD BY THE COVER
NINETEEN PANDEMIC WITH OVER
FORTY THOUSAND SMALL BUSINESSES
IN THIS STATE FORCED TO CLOSE ON
TODAY MANY ARE STILL STRUGGLING
TO GET BACK ON THE THEIR FEET.
ARE THE CIRCUMSTANCES HAVE
PUSHED MANY SMALL BUSINESSES TO
TAKE OUT LOANS WITH
NONTRADITIONAL LENDERS NONBANK
LENDERS JUST TO STAY AFLOAT BUT
OFTEN TOO OFTEN THESE LOANS HAVE
COME WITH HIDDEN OR EXORBITANT
FEES- THAT LOOK A LOT LIKE THE
PREDATORY LAND LOANS THAT WE
SIDE DURING THE SUBPRIME
MORTGAGE CRISIS. I'M MOSTLY
SMALL BUSINESSES HAVE FEWER THAN
TEN EMPLOYEES DO NOT HAVE THE
CAPACITY TO SIFT THROUGH THE
FINE PRINT OF THESE LOANS AND OF
COURSE THE DEVIL IS ALWAYS IN
THE DETAIL WHEN IT COMES TO
THESE TYPES OF CONTRACTS ARE YOU
GONNA BAN ME FROM THIS MISTER
CHAIR. NEVER MIND- WE NEED
SAFEGUARDS IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE
THE LENDING PROCESS IS
STRAIGHTFORWARD TRANSPARENT AND
DOES NOT COME WITH SURPRISES. I
HAVING IDENTIFIED FIVE DIFFERENT
TYPES OF FEES THAT ARE
EXORBITANT PROVIDE NO REAL
SERVICE OR ANTI COMPETITIVE- ONE
OF THESE IDENTIFIED FEES IS A
CHARGE FOR PROVIDING STATEMENT
OR PAY OFF LETTERS TO SMALL
BUSINESSES TRYING TO REFINANCE
THEIR LOANS. THESE FEES PUT UP A
BARRIER TO MORE AFFORDABLE
OPTIONS AND ARE ANTI COMPETITIVE
THERE OTHER FEES LIKE PLATFORM
AND DUE DILIGENCE FEES THAT CAN
COST HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS AND
PROVIDE NO CLEAR CORRESPONDING
SERVICE. SB SIX SIX SIX WOULD
ADDRESS THESE FEES AND OTHERS-
TO ELIMINATE THEM OR CAP THEM AT
A REASONABLE AMOUNT. WHILE ALSO
TRYING TO PROVIDE TRANSPARENCY
WHEN EVALUATING LENDING OPTIONS
FOR SMALL BUSINESSES I HEAR
TESTIFYING SUPPORT THE BILL I
HAVE ADRIAN PETERSON FROM THE
CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION FOR MICRO
ENTERPRISE OPPORTUNITY. AND
BIANCA. BLOMQUIST FROM SMALL
BUSINESS MAJORITY. MY PERCENT.
HI MY NAME IS AT PETER CHRIS
MEAL AFTER. ARE THAT'S OKAY.
CALIFORNIA SO. FOR MIKE OR IN.
ARE A CAMEO CAL. STATEWIDE
NETWORK OF FOUR HUNDRED MISSION
DRIVEN ENTREPRENEURIAL TRAINING
PROGRAMS. SMALL BUSINESS MICHAEL
INTER'S AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS
DEDICATED TO HELPING SMALL
BUSINESSES START GROW AND THRIVE
. ANNUALLY CAMEO MEMBERS SERVE
OVER TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND. VERY
SMALL BUSINESSES WITH TRAINING
BUSINESS IN CREDIT ASSISTANCE
AND LOANS. WE CONSTANTLY HEAR
FROM OUR LENDING MEMBERS THEIR
REFINANCING OR TRYING TO FIND
REFINANCE PREDATORY FINANCING
THAT THEIR CLIENTS FOUND ONLINE
. CONTRIBUTING TO THE PREDATORY
NATURE OF THIS TYPE OF
FINANCING. OR HIGH FEES SB SIX
SIX SIX APPROPRIATELY NAMED.
WILL CURTAIL. MY TESTIMONY
FOCUSES ON KELLY ALL OVER
PERSONAL FITNESS BUSINESS IN
LONG BEACH. KELLY TOOK OUT A
SEVENTY FIVE HUNDRED DOLLAR
MERCHANT CASH ADVANCE IN
DESPERATE NEED FOR BABY ADVANCE
TO PAY HER RENT AND HER
INSTRUCTORS. ORIGINATION FEE WAS
FIVE HUNDRED NINETY FIVE DOLLARS
ABOUT 80% OF THE LOAN ALMOST
THREE TIMES THAT OF AN SBA LOAN
. ON TOP OF THAT SHE WAS CHARGED
A FIFTY DOLLAR DISBURSING FEE
FOR THE SAME DAY DISBURSING THE
FUNDS THE MONTHLY SERVICING
SPEAR FORTY NINE DOLLARS FOR A
POINT OF COMPARISON. A SIMILAR
MORTGAGE SERVICING FEE WOULD BE
ABOUT A DOLLAR SIXTY AN
UNSPECIFIED UNSPECIFIED
PREPAYMENT FEE. SB TRIPLE SIX
SIX THE RAINY AND HIGH FEES AND
FEES THAT DON'T COME WITH THE
CORRESPONDING SERVICE MAKING
SOME COMMERCIAL FUNDING VERY
EXPENSIVE. THIS BILL SUPPORT
SMALL BUSINESSES IN THEIR QUEST
FOR ACCESS TO RESPONSIBLE
AFFORDABLE CAPITAL SO THAT THEY
CAN GROW AND SUCCEED IN BOTH
BUILD WEALTH FOR THEMSELVES
THEIR FAMILIES AND THEIR
COMMUNITIES. YOUR COMMUNITIES WE
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR AYE
VOTE THANK YOU. THANK YOU NEXT
WHEN S. THANKS KAREN MANSION
BASED TREMENDOUS FAILURE MEMBERS
OF THE COMMITTEE MY NAME IS
BIANCA BLOMQUIST AND POLICY
DIRECTOR FOR SMALL BUSINESS
MAJORITY WERE A NATIONAL
RESEARCH AND EDUCATION SMALL
BUSINESS ORGANIZATION THAT I'M
EMPOWERS AMERICA'S
ENTREPRENEURS. TO BUILD A
THRIVING AND EQUITABLE ECONOMY
I'M HERE TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT
OF SB SIX SIX SIX TO PROMOTE
TRANSPARENCY FOR SMALL BUSINESS
OWNERS WHEN SHOPPING FOR
COMMERCIAL FINANCING PRODUCTS.
JUNK FEES ARE OFTEN HIGHLY
DISPROPORTIONATE TO THE COST OF
THE SERVICE PROVIDED THEY MAKE
IT DIFFICULT FOR SMALL BUSINESS
OWNERS TO SHOP AROUND BASED ON
THE ACTUAL COST OF A PRODUCT. OR
SERVICE LENDERS ARE CHARGING IT
STATEMENT FEES PAY OFF LETTER
FEES- OR PAY OFF LETTER FEES
THAT PLACE A FINANCIAL BARRIER
TO A BAR OR SEEKING TO REFINANCE
AN EXISTING LOAN. THIS PRACTICE
IS ANTI COMPETITIVE AND HAS THE
EFFECT OF COURSE THING OF OUR
WORK. STAY WITH A LOAN THAT THEY
CANNOT AFFORD JUNK FEES ARE ANTI
COMPETITIVE AND STIFLE
COMPETITION COMMERCIAL LENDERS
OFTEN CHARGE LARGE SUMS TO SMALL
BUSINESSES. AS DUPLICATE FEES OR
FEES THAT DO NOT PROVIDE A CLEAR
CORRESPONDING SERVICE EXAMPLES
INCLUDE ON TOP OF THE EXAMPLE
THE ADDISON OF PROVIDED-
CHARGING A FEE TO ACCEPT
PAYMENTS VIA A CH OR FEES THAT
ARE ADDED ON TOP OF THE
ORIGINATION FEES SUCH AS A RISK
ASSESSMENT DUE DILIGENCE AND
PLATFORM FEES. EVEN THE RISK
ASSESSMENT AND DUE DILIGENCE ARE
ALREADY PART OF THE ORIGINATION
PROCESS. BY TACKLING HIDDEN FEES
POLICYMAKERS CAN ENSURE SMALL
BUSINESS OWNERS ARE ON A LEVEL
PLAYING FIELD WHEN ACCESSING THE
FINANCING THEY NEED TO START AND
GROW A BUSINESS. SB SIX SIX SIX
PROTECT CALIFORNIA'S ECONOMY AND
SUPPORTS RESPONSIBLE INNOVATION
IN THE COMMERCIAL FINANCING
MARKET PLACE THANK YOU SO MUCH
THANK YOU FOR THE WITNESSES IN
SOME PORTANTINO IS A- MR
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS ROBERT. WITH
THE CONSUMER FEDERATION
CALIFORNIA WHERE A CO SPONSOR OF
THIS BILL AND IT'S PART OF OUR
JUNK FEES PACKAGE THANK YOU. I
CAN MORNING TURN MEMBERS AND
DRAKE HOW WITH THE CALIFORNIA
ASIAN PACIFIC CHAMBER OF
COMMERCE IN SUPPORT THANK YOU.
THANK YOU SEE NO FURTHER
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT WITNESSES
IN OPPOSITION. SCENE NINE
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE
COMMITTEE. C. NINE TO A MOTION.
THE MOTION FOR MISS REYES SECOND
FROM HIS PAYCHECK GO. AT SENATOR
MENU MAKE CLOSE I APOLOGIZE FOR
MISSTATING NAME ADDISON PETERSON
THIS IS NOT THE FORMER MINNESOTA
VIKINGS RUNNING BACK UP. EVERY
BIT AS FEARSOME. I HAVE A HELL
OF A TIME WITH NAME SOMETIMES-
BUT- RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR AYE
VOTE THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION
MOTIONS TO PASS TO THE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE ASKED
THE COURT TO PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL MAIENSCHEIN HI MAIENSCHEIN
I IS SALIH. SALIH I CALMLY.
CALMLY I DIXON HANEY. HANEY I
KALRA THE CZECHO HI PROJECT- I'D
HAPPEN REYES. REYES IDLY
SANCHEZ. PENSION THANK YOU YOUR
BILL. IS OUT. THE YOU NEXT SAN
GLACIER HAS TO BILL- WE'LL START
WITH. SB. SIX FORTY. THANK YOU
CHAIR OPPOSITE THE ACTIVATION
THIS BILL TODAY. I WANT TO THANK
THE COMMITTEE STAFF FOR THEIR
GOOD WORK ON THIS AND I'M HAPPY
TO. SUPPORT THE I DON'T KNOW IF
THE VAST FOR AMENDMENTS IN THIS
BILL I DON'T THINK THAT THEY
HAVE- I'M SURE A MANY OF US HAVE
MADE RESERVATIONS ONLINE- FOR-
PLACE TO STAY AND PERHAPS MANY
OF YOU HAVE ALSO MADE A MISTAKE
YOU DID SOMETHING YOU DIDN'T
REALLY INTEND TO DO. EFFUSE A
THIRD PARTY APP THERE'S NO
TURNING BACK THAT'S A MISTAKE
THEY CAN'T BE CORRECTED. AND
THAT'S REALLY WHAT THIS BILL IS
INTENDED TO DO IT'S ITS- MCCARTY
OOPS BILL BUT BASICALLY. IF
YOU'VE MADE A MISTAKE IT WOULD
ALLOW YOU HAVE TWENTY FOUR HOURS
TO MAKE THAT CORRECTION. AND
THAT'S TWENTY FOUR HOURS FROM
WHEN YOU MAKE THE RESERVATION
NOT TWENTY FOUR HOURS WHEN YOU
ARRIVE- AT THE DESTINATION. I
WE'VE TAKEN A NUMBER OF
AMENDMENTS TO DEAL WITH SOME OF
THE ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN
RAISED. BY THIRD PARTY APPS AND
ANOTHER LODGING ESTABLISHMENTS I
THINK WE FOUND COMMON GROUND IN
MANY OF THOSE PLACES- BUT DAD.
THAT ONE DAY WINDOW CAN MAKE A
DIFFERENCE I'VE MADE THE MISTAKE
OF MANY OF YOU MAY HAVE AS WELL-
AND THAT CORRECTION OPPORTUNITY
IS A SHORT WINDOW. BUT I THINK
UNNECESSARY ONE FOR CONSUMER
PROTECTION. AND WITH THAT- WE
DIAPERS RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
YOUR I. BOATS. THANK YOU I
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT. SCENE NINE
WITNESSES AND OP. SO MISTER
TURNER MEMBERS ROBBED HER OF THE
CONSUMER AFFAIRS CALIFORNIA WE
DON'T NOT HAVE AN OFFICIAL
POSITION ON THE BILL- WE'RE
FAVORABLY INCLINED I WOULD JUST
POINT OUT A RECENT AMENDMENT TO
THE BILL DOES GIVE US PAUSE.
THAT AMENDMENT IS AN AMENDMENT.
THAT DEALS WITH SO CALLED
OPAQUE- SO THINK PRICELINE OR
HOTWIRE WERE YOU DON'T FIND OUT
THE NAME. OF THE PROPERTY UNTIL
AFTER YOU CONCLUDE THE- PURCHASE
WE BELIEVE THAT CONSUMERS WHO
USE THOSE SITES AND THOSE MORE
OPAQUE WAYS TO TRY TO GET A
BETTER DEAL QUITE FRANKLY OUGHT
TO BE ALSO PROTECTED. AND SO WE
DO NOT LIKE THAT MOST RECENT
AMENDMENT TO THE BILL- WE WOULD
LIKE TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH
THE AUTHOR AND OTHERS ON THAT WE
THINK THAT'S PROBLEMATIC OTHER
THAN THAT. WE THINK FOR AN OOPS-
RESERVATION IT IT OUGHT TO BE-
THE CASE THAT YOU GET YOUR MONEY
BACK WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
THE INDUSTRY DOESN'T THEN LOWER
THEIR STANDARDS BECAUSE
DEPENDING ON THE KIND OF
PRESERVATION I MAKE I MIGHT GET
A LONGER LEAD TIME. TO CANCEL
SO- THOSE ARE THE ISSUES THAT
ARE IN PLAY HAVE DISCUSSED S
WITH THE AUTHOR'S OFFICE AND WE
LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO
WORK WITH THEM ON THIS ISSUE.
THANK YOU. EMILY IS THE MONEY
WHAT CALIFORNIA TRAVELS TO
THANKS TO THE AUTHOR FOR WORKING
WITH US WE'VE REMOVED OPPOSITION
. THANK YOU YES JULIE MANAS GIVE
ON BEHALF THE CALIFORNIA HOTEL
LODGING ASSOCIATION ALSO THANK
YOU AND WE HAVE REMOVED
OPPOSITION. THANK YOU I'VE SEEN
NOTE FOR THE WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS
FROM THE COMMITTEE MR SALIH I
JUST WANTED TO REALLY THINK THE
SENATE I KNOW THIS CAN A PRIVACY
FIRST AND YOU GAVE US YOUR WORD
THAT YOU WOULD. WORK WITH THE
OPPOSITION YOU'VE CLEARLY DONE
THAT SO I APPRECIATED I'VE STAND
LAST TIME I'LL BE SUPPORTING IT.
TODAY AND I ENCOURAGE YOU TO
WORK ON THIS OPAQUE ISSUE AS
WELL WHICH I'M SURE YOU WILL SO
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS
OR COMMENTS FROM QUE SEEN AND WE
HAVE MOTION. MOTION FROM AS REST
SECOND FROM THIS PROJECT.
AZERBAIJAN MIKLOS- JUST TO CLOSE
A- THAT I DIDN'T TO. THAT WAS A
PART OF THE COMEDY. THAT WE TOOK
THE OPAQUE ISSUE THEY'LL PAY
COME- OUT AND- THESE ARE THINGS
THAT THAT PART OF THE LAW MAKING
PROCESS THAT DON'T GET
EVERYTHING YOU WANT BUT I THINK
THIS GOES A LONG WAYS AND- AND
WHY. THE CONSERVATIVES YOUR
SUPPORT TODAY. THANK YOU. THE
MOTION IS TO PASS TO THE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE ASKED
HER TO PLEASE CALL THE ROLL
MAIENSCHEIN AYE MAIENSCHEIN AYE
SALIH. AYE SALIH AYE CONLEY.
CONLEY I DIXON HANEY. HANG MARC
. CHECK OUT. CHECK OUT FIVE PAP
IN. REYES REYES IDLY SANTA. YOUR
BILL IS OUT. NEXT WEEK WILL-
YOUR SECOND BILL OF THE DAIS SB
. EIGHT THREE YOU MAY. THE YOU
THANK YOU CHAIR AN- THIS IS A
BILL YOU HAVE HEARD BEFORE- MY
COLLEAGUE YOUR CALL. AT SOME
MEMBER I'M MORE BERMAN- AND I
SIMILAR BILLS ON I'D- BILLS.
FIRST LET ME SAY THAT WOULD HAVE
TO ACCEPT THE COMMITTEES AND-
ONE OF THEM WAS TO ALIGN BILL
WITH. WITH THE BILL MR BERMAN.
VERSION THAT'S IN THE CENTER
DODD- BUT SURE THAT YOU KNOW
AGAIN WE ALL HAD THESE. AND
MAKING READ. WERE YOU YOU'RE
GETTING CERTAIN. AND INTERNET
AND THEN. YOU DISCOVER MAYBE AT
THE END OF THE RESERVATION
PROCESS MAYBE NOT TO YOU CHECK
OUT OF THE HOTEL THAT YOU ARE.
STAYING AT YOU LEARN THERE'S
ADDITIONAL FEES AND COSTS THAT.
WERE NEVER REALLY DISCLOSE THING
YOU WEREN'T REALLY AWARE OF IT
SO THAT'S WHAT THIS BILL- TRIES
TO GET OUT- AND YOU KNOW WE'RE
LEARNING EVEN EVERY DAY EVERY
WEEK ABOUT NEW FEES I WAS UP AT
A- HOTEL. RECENTLY LAST WEEK IN-
IN LAKE TAHOE IN AND- NEVER
BEFORE KNEW OF A CIVIC FEE. THAT
WAS ADDED ON THE- CHECKOUT
SELECT DEPARTMENTAL FEES RESORT
FEES AND THAT AND NOW THE CIVIC
FEE. BUT YOU KNOW THERE HAVE
BEEN STUDIES DONE ABOUT THE THIS
ISSUE OF FEES AND WHETHER THAT-
IT ARTIFICIALLY INCREASES THE
SEARCH COSTS THEY AFFECT ALL
TRADE COMMISSION OF COME TO THAT
CONCLUSION- THIS IS GOING TO
REQUIRE THAT THERE BE UPFRONT
PRICING- WHICH IS A HEALTHY
THING I THINK FOR- US. ALL ALL
ALL ALL OF OUR WORLD INCLUDING
THE BUSINESS WORLD THAT THERE'S
INTEGRITY IN WHAT THEY PUT
FORWARD. AND WITH THAT AT
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR
SUPPORT TODAY WITH WITH ME IS
REBEKAH MARCUS. HERE ON BEHALF
OF THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC
INTEREST RESEARCH GROUP CALPERS.
TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING CHAIRMAN CHINA
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE I'M
REBEKAH MARKETS ON BEHALF OF CAL
PERK WHERE STATEWIDE CONSUMER
ADVOCACY GROUP. I WORKING NOT TO
PROTECT CALIFORNIA'S ENSURE A
FAIR MARKET PLACE WE'RE PROUD TO
SUPPORT SB SIX EIGHTY THREE. AND
THANKS UNDER. GLAZER FIRST WORK
ON THIS LEGISLATION. AND DESERVE
TO KNOW THEIR PAIN FOR AND MUCH
OF IT'S SIMPLE AND FOR. MANY
COMPANIES INCLUDING HOTELS ARE
BLINDSIDING US WITH HIDDEN FEES.
MORE AND MORE HOTELS ARE ON
BUNDLING THE COST OF YOUR STAY
ADVERTISING THE. FIVE PARKING
USE OF THE POOL AND HEALTH CLUBS
IN ROOM SAFE AND THE PHONE IN
YOUR ROOM. THESE ADDITIONAL FEES
COMMONLY CALLED RESORT FEES ARE
OFTEN NOT DISCLOSED UP FRONT AND
RATHER CHARGED AT CHECK IN OR
WHEN YOU PAY FOR YOUR STAY.
RECENTLY THE FTC DID AN ANALYSIS
OF RESORT FEES AND CONCLUDED
THAT SEPARATING THE SPEEDS FROM
THE ROOM RATE WITHOUT FIRST
DISCLOSING THE TOTAL PRICE. AS
UNLIKELY TO RESULT IN BENEFITS
THAT OFFSET THAT LIKELY HARM TO
CONSUMERS WHICH INCLUDED
ADDITIONAL TIME SEARCHING FOR
HOTELS MANDATORY FEES ARE MAKING
AN UNINFORMED CHOICE RESULTING
IN A COSTLY HOTEL STAY.
CALIFORNIA CONSUMERS DESERVE
COMPLETE PRICING INFORMATION TO
HELP INFORM OUR PURCHASES THAT'S
WHY CALPERS SUPPORTS THIS BILL
REQUIRING TRANSPARENCY FOR ALL
MANDATORY FEES ASSOCIATED WITH
HOTEL AND LODGING STAYS. FOR ALL
THESE REASONS WE RESPECTFULLY
URGE YOUR VOTE ON THIS IMPORTANT
HERE THANK YOU THANK YOU ANY
OTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT. NAME
AN ORGANIZATION ONLY PLEASE.
MISTER CHAIRMAN WE HAVE NO
OFFICIAL POSITION ROBERT HER OF
THE CONSUMER FEDERATION
CALIFORNIA LOOK FORWARD TO
CONTINUING TO WORK OUT. THE
ISSUES BETWEEN THE BERMAN BILL
THERE WERE A SPONSOR OF AND THIS
BILL THANK YOU. SEEN NO FURTHER
WITNESSES AND SUPPORT WITNESSES
AND OPPOSITION.
MORNING JERRY MEMBERS. I MEAN
EVEN MONEY WITH A CALIFORNIA
TRAVEL ASSOCIATION. WE ARE THE
TRADE ADVOCACY GROUP FOR THE
TRAVEL AND TOURISM INDUSTRY IN
THE STATE. OF ROUTE RESPECTFULLY
OPPOSE THE SPELL UNLESS AMENDED-
TO BE CLEAR WERE NOT OPPOSED TO
TRANSPARENCY AND ANYWAY WE'RE
JUST ASKING FOR A BALANCED
APPROACH TO CONSUMER PROTECTION
THAT DOESN'T CREATE A
COMPETITIVE. DISADVANTAGE FOR AN
INDUSTRY THAT IS FINALLY
RECOVERING FROM THE ECONOMIC
IMPACTS OF THE PANDEMIC UP
TOURISM PROMOTION ON THE STATE
AND LOCAL LEVEL IS FUNDED
THROUGH TRIP TOWARDS HIM
DISTRICT ASSESSMENTS A TID
ENABLED IN CALIFORNIA STATUTE
AND COLLECTED FROM VARIOUS
SEGMENTS OF THE INDUSTRY.
ACCORDING TO THE CALIFORNIA AND
REFLECTED IN THE BILL'S ANALYSIS
VISIT CALIFORNIA'S INDUSTRY
FUNDED PROMOTIONS OF CALIFORNIA
ON TRACK TO REACH ONE HUNDRED
AND FIFTY FOUR POINT FOUR
BILLION IN VISITOR SPENDING.
THIS GENERATES BILLIONS IN STATE
AND LOCAL TAX REVENUE WHICH
SAVED CALIFORNIA HOUSEHOLDS
ROUGHLY NINE HUNDRED AND SIX
DOLLARS AND TWENTY TWENTY TWO.
T. O. T. PAY BY A HOTEL ON
VACATION RENTAL GUESTS ALSO
POWER LOCAL COMMUNITIES ACROSS
CALIFORNIA- THESE TAXES AND
ASSESSMENTS ARE CURRENTLY BROKEN
OUT AND LODGING TRANSACTIONS
NEAR THE END OF THE TRANSACTION-
WE'RE NOT UNIQUE IN USING TID
UNTIL T. TO FIND TOURISM
PROMOTION. INFRASTRUCTURE
IMPROVEMENTS AN ESSENTIAL
GOVERNMENT SERVICES BUT SHOULD
THIS BILL PASS WE WOULD BE
UNIQUE AND THAT THOSE GOVERNMENT
APPROVED LEVIES WOULD BE
INCLUDED IN THE ADVERTISED RATE
OF EVERY SHORT TERM RENTAL STAY.
WE ARE OPPOSED TO THIS AND
BELIEVE IT WILL PUT CALIFORNIA
AT A COMPETITIVE DISADVANTAGE
YES TOURISM NUMBER STATEWIDE ARE
BETTER THAN EVER. BUT THIS
RECOVERY IS UNEVEN AND GATEWAY
DESTINATIONS LIKE SAN FRANCISCO
AND LA WHICH ARE STILL FACING
CHALLENGES DUE TO LAGGING
BUSINESS INTERNATIONAL TRAVEL AS
WELL AS GLOBAL. GLOBAL
PERCEPTIONS OF CALIFORNIA'S
HOMELESSNESS VIOLENCE AND DRUG
ISSUES. IS A CALIFORNIA FOR CASH
SHOW THAT THE ENTIRE STATE WILL
SURPASS TWENTY NINETEEN. NUMBER
SOMETIME THIS YEAR BUT THOSE
NUMBERS ARE NOT ADJUSTED FOR
INFLATION AND NOT ALL COUNTIES
WILL FULLY RECOVER IN TWENTY
TWENTY THREE. THE COST OF IS
VISITING CALIFORNIA IS ALREADY
HIGH. AS A CALIFORNIA'S TRAVELER
SENTIMENT SAYS THAT 37% OF
DOMESTIC. CONSUMERS INCLUDING
CALIFORNIANS. AND 40% OF
INTERNET CONCERN SAY THE PER OF
TRAVEL AS A BURIAL TO THEM
TRAVELING PLEASE DON'T
ARTIFICIALLY INFLATE OUR LODGING
RATES. AND LASTLY THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT IS CONSIDERING
LEGISLATION THAT WOULD ENSURE
CONSISTENT PRICING POLICIES. AND
WE PREFER THIS TO LEVEL THE
PLAYING FIELD NATIONWIDE WHEN IT
COMES TO ADVERTISING RATES THANK
YOU THANK YOU FOR THE WITNESSES
IN OPPOSITION. AT JULIE MOUNT
ASK ABOUT ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA HOTEL AND LODGING
ASSOCIATION ECHOED THOSE
SENTIMENTS FROM CAL TRAVEL.
OPPOSE UNLESS AMENDED THANK YOU.
SEEN NO FURTHER WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS
FROM THE COMMITTEE. C. NINE TO
HAVE A- GREAT A BILL MOTION IT
FROM ISRAEL S. YEAH SECOND FOR
MISTER HANEY- IT SERVES SURVEYS-
I REALLY WANNA THANK YOU FOR
BRINGING. WHAT'S IMPORTANT
TRANSPARENCY BILL ALL OF US I
THINK IT'S CONSUMERS HAVE
EXPERIENCED THE FRUSTRATION AS
YOU'VE SAID OF GOING DOWN SEEN
RESORT FEE. CLEANING FEE AND ALL
THESE FEES THAT KIND OF COME UP
AT THE END BETTER- I DON'T SEEM
TO BE INCLUDED IN THE FIRST
ADVERTISED PRICE- AND- YOU KNOW
I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT THAT
GET DISCLOSED IN THE ADVERSE.
ADVERTISED RATE I DO SHARE SOME
OF THE CONCERNS THAT- MANDATING
DISCLOSURE OF THE GOVERNMENT
IMPOSED TAXES AND ASSESSMENTS.
IN THE ADVERTISED PRICE WILL PUT
CALIFORNIA HOTELS- AND SHORT
TERM RENTALS AT A LITTLE BIT OF
A COMPETITIVE DISADVANTAGES-
WITH HOTELS FROM OUT OF STATE
ESPECIALLY SAY TORTURE IS I TAKE
MAKE TAHOE BUT REALLY ANYWHERE
BUT- A TOWER MAY BE OUT OF STATE
COMPETITION IS EVEN MORE.
CLOSELY SIX NEARBY SO JUST WHAT
I ASK IS THAT I JUST URGE YOU TO
PLEASE KEEP WORKING WITH THE
OPPOSITION MAYBE THAT COULD
ARRIVE AT A SOLUTION THAT
ACCOMPLISHES THE GOAL THE GOAL
OF TRANSPARENCY BUT AT THE SAME
TIME TAKES. INTO CONSIDERATION
THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE. WILL
CONTINUE TO VERY- LARGE WITH
WHETHER IT'S YOU KNOW SMALL
GROUPS OF VACATIONS OR WHETHER
IT'S THESE HUGE CONVENTION SO WE
WANNA MAKE SURE COME TO.
CONTINUE TO COME TO CALIFORNIA
SO- I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE
BILL BUT I JUST URGE YOU TO
PLEASE WORK ON THAT ISSUE AS
THIS MOVES FORWARD. AND WITH
THAT YOU MAY CLOSE THANK YOU
THANK YOU CHAIR AND- THESE ARE
OUR FRIENDS AND THE LODGING IN
THE TOURISM. BUSINESS AND I'VE
ENJOYED WORKING WITH THEM ON
THIS ISSUE AND OTHERS AND WE
SHARE THE GOAL OF KEEPING OUR
PROPERTIES COMPETITIVE- I WOULD
AGREE THAT LOOK AT THIS DOES
DESERVE A NATIONAL FIX. AND
PRESIDENT BIDEN HAS ADVANCED
SOME. LANGUAGE ABOUT TRYING TO
DO THAT AND- THAT REALLY IS THE
BETTER WAY. I DON'T THINK THIS
BILL IS IN ITS CURRENT FORM IS
GONNA ALLOW FOR TOO MUCH OF
THAT- OF A COMPETITIVE
DISADVANTAGE PROBLEM BUT I'M
CONTINUING TO HAVE THESE
CONVERSATIONS HAVE COMMITTED TO
IT BECAUSE THEY ARE OUR FRIENDS
WE WANT THEM TO PROSPER- AND WE
ALL PROSPER SO WITH THAT.
RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR SUPPORT
TODAY THANK YOU THE MOTION IS TO
PASS APPROPRIATIONS. AS AMENDED
TO THE PREPARATIONS COMMITTEE.
ASKED THE COURT TO PLEASE KALRA
MAIENSCHEIN HI MAIENSCHEIN I
SALIH. SALIH NO CONNELLY.
CONNELLY I DIXON. DIXON NO HANEY
. CHENEY I KALRA. BUT CZECHO BY.
THE CZECHO I HAPPEN. HAPPEN I
REYES. REYES AYE LEE. SANCHEZ
SANCHEZ. YOUR BILL IS OUT THANK
YOU. YOU YOU ARE NEXT IS SENT
PART. AND SENATORS SKINNER AND
RUBIO TO PLEASE HEAD OVER THERE
IS OUR FINAL TWO ITEMS AFTER
THIS.
ONE MORNING MISTER CHAIR. THANK
YOU- I'M HERE TO PRESENT SB SIX
NINE SIX WHICH WOULD ALLOW
REMOTE ONLINE NOTARIZATION IN
CALIFORNIA. AS BUSINESSES SHUT
DOWN DURING COVERT NINETEEN
PANDEMIC IT HIGHLIGHTED THE
IMPORTANCE OF GIVING PEOPLE
OPTIONS FOR SAFE NOTARIAL
TRANSACTIONS BEYOND TRADITIONAL
MEANS. REMOTE ONLINE NOTARY
NOTARIZATION REVOLUTIONIZES THE
NOTARY PROCESS CONDUCTING
BUSINESS ONLINE VIA TWO WAY
AUDIO VIDEO COMMUNICATIONS. THIS
IS AN ENHANCEMENT TO NOT REPLACE
TRADITIONAL NOTARIZATION BUT
PROVIDE CONSUMERS MORE OPTIONS
AND THEREFORE MORE FLEXIBILITY
ON THEIR DOCUMENTS THAT ARE
BEING NOTARIZED. SB SIX NINE SIX
ALLOWS CONSUMERS AND NOTARIES
THE ABILITY TO COMPLETE THEIR
MORTGAGE WILL MEDICAL DIRECTIVE
IN A SAFE SECURE AND TRANSPARENT
ENVIRONMENT BREAKING DOWN
GEOGRAPHICAL BARRIERS FOR RURAL
COMMUNITIES AND WITH ME TODAY I
HAVE MIKE BELOW FROM THE
CALIFORNIA ADVOCATES
REPRESENTING NATIONAL NOTARY
ASSOCIATION AND DEAL HEARTY FROM
NOTARIZED AND OBVIOUSLY WHEN
APPROPRIATE RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
AND I WILL. MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS
MICHAEL OUT ON BEHALF OF THE
NATIONAL NOTARY ASSOCIATION AND
SOME OTHER GROUPS IN SUPPORT
THIS IS A ISSUE THAT HAS BEEN A
LONG TIME COMING IT'S BEEN
BEFORE THE COMMITTEE BEFORE- IN
BOTH HOUSES- WE ARE IN STRONG
SUPPORT OF THE BILL AS IT EXISTS
NOW. YOU KNOW IT I GUESS IT GOES
WITHOUT SAYING THAT OVER TIME
BUSINESS AND PEOPLE'S LIVES HAVE
BECOME MORE MOBILE- AND- WE ARE
ATTEMPTING TO ALIGN CALIFORNIA
LAW. IN ROUGH- FORM WITH THAT OF
NOW FORTY SIX OTHER STATES- WE
ARE ONE OF FOUR NOW THAT DOES
NOT PERMIT REMOTE ONLINE
NOTARIZATION I THINK THE
ANALYSIS DOES A REALLY GOOD JOB
OF LAYING OUT THE POLICY AND
PRACTICAL QUESTIONS. BUT TO BE
CLEAR WELL A CONSUMER IN A
NOTARIAL TRANSACTION MIGHT BE
ONE OF US IN AN END OF LIFE.
SITUATION IT COULD BE A REAL
ESTATE PRINCIPLE BUT IT COULD
ALSO BE A NATIONAL OR EVEN
INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS AND THIS
IS AN ISSUE THAT HAS TO WORK FOR
ALL. YES WE BELIEVE THAT THE
NOTARIAL PROCESS IS A CRITICAL.
CONSUMER PROTECTION FUNCTION.
BUT IT ALSO NEEDS TO EVOLVE AND
WE HAVE HAD STAKEHOLDER
DISCUSSIONS WITH- WITH REAL
ESTATE GROUPS CONSUMER GROUPS
THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE
THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE.
AND WE THINK THAT YOU'VE ARRIVED
AT A FINE BALANCE. BUT TO BE
CLEAR AGAIN CALIFORNIA ALREADY
IS EVERY DAY RECORDING.
THOUSANDS OF DOCUMENTS.
INVOLVING CALIFORNIA PRINCIPLES
THAT KNOWLEDGE OUT OF STATE AND
THAT IS A PRINCIPAL IN THE CIVIL
CODE AND HAS BEEN FOR DECADES
THAT WE RECOGNIZE A NOTARIAL ACT
FROM OUT OF STATE IF PERFORMED
IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE LAWS OF
THAT OTHER STATE. SO THIS IS
HAPPENING NOW IT IS TIME TO PUT
SOME PROTECTIONS ON THE SYSTEM-
BOTH POLICY AND PRACTICAL AND WE
THINK THE BILL ACHIEVES THAT
HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS BUT WE
WOULD STRONGLY ASKED FOR AN AYE
VOTE. THANK YOU NEXT WITNESS. A
GOOD MORNING MISTER CHAIR MY
NAME IS DALE HEARTY AND SENIOR
COUNSEL I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF
NOTARIZE JUST HERE FOR ANY
TECHNICAL QUESTIONS THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT
NAME AN ORGANIZATION ONLY. THE
ANY TALK OF A TECHNICIAN SUPPORT
. GOOD MORNING CHEN MEMBERS
NAMELY PEDRO NUMBER HAVE THE
CALIFORNIA CREDIT UNION LEAGUE
IN SUPPORT. JIM LIGHTS ON BEHALF
OF DOCUSIGN IN SUPPORT. AARON
KUNS WOULD CALIFORNIA'S VISORS
ON BEHALF OF ZILLOW GROUP IN
SUPPORT. INTERMEC DONALD HERE ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
MORTGAGE BANKERS ASSOCIATION IN
SUPPORT OF AMENDED POSITION.
MORNING SURE MEMBERS CLIFF COSTS
ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
ESCROW ASSOCIATION AND GOVERN
FOR CALIFORNIA IN STRONG SUPPORT
THANK YOU THANK YOU SEE NO
FURTHER WITNESSES. IN SPORTS.
MEDICINE OPPOSITION I'M GUESSING
FOR ME- MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS THE
SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE- TED
MAUL HAUSER ON BEHALF OF
SECRETARY OF STATE SURELY AND
WEBER PHD NOT IN SUPPORT NOT NOT
POSITION APPRECIATE THE CHAIR
GIVING US AN OPPORTUNITY TO
SUGGEST SOME WORKABILITY MEMBERS
FOCUSED ON THE IMPLEMENTATION OF
THIS BILL- APPRECIATE THE
COMMITTEE STAFF ALL THE TIME AND
SPENT ON THIS ISSUE OVER THE-
OVER THE YEARS. AND LOOK FORWARD
TO WORKING WITH THE CHAIR THE
OTHER STAKEHOLDERS ON THESE
AMENDMENTS AS WE WEIGH OUR
OPTIONS ON THIS BILL GOING
FORWARD THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU. HOWEVER THE PLANE IN
TO SPEAK THAT THIS IS ANTHONY
FROM THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S
OFFICE AND WE DON'T HAVE A
POSITION ON THE BILL BUT WE-
WANT TO THANK THE AUTHOR AND THE
SPONSORS FOR WORKING WITH US. IN
DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM TO TRY TO
ADDRESS SOME OF OUR CONCERNS
THANK YOU THANK YOU ANY
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE
COMMITTEE. SEEN NINE WE HAVE.
OPPOSITION I'M SORRY THOSE WERE
THE TWO WINNERS YEAH. I WAS
TRYING TO HELP YOU HERE
APPARENTLY CENTER PORTANTINO- I
APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. IN
OPPOSITION. THANK YOU MR
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE MY NAME IS MATT MILLER
PRESENT THE CALIFORNIA LEAGUE
BENEFIT NOTARIES HAND WHILE WE
APPRECIATE THE EFFORT TO MOVE
INTO THE DIGITAL AGE. WE FELT
THIS BILL IS LACKING- ADEQUATE
SAFEGUARDS TO PROTECT ACCESS TO
NOTARIAL SERVICES INSTEAD OF
CALIFORNIA BEING ONE OF THE FEW
STATES REMAINING TO ADOPT ONLINE
RESERVATION TELEPHONE INTERESTS
HAVE BEEN ABLE TO OBSERVE WHAT'S
HAPPENING TO THE STATES AND WE
HAVE OBSERVED. OR THE LARGER
TECHNOLOGY PLATFORMS THAT
FACILITATE THE TRANSACTIONS.
MOVING TO CONSULT THE BUSINESS
AND FINALLY THROUGH- NO REFORMS
IN LOCAL STATES WITH LESSER
STANDARDS. AND THEREFORE THAT IS
PUTTING PRESSURE ON LOCAL
NOTARIES IN FACT SINCE MARCH OF
TWENTY TWENTY CALIFORNIA HAS
LOST OVER TWENTY THOUSAND ACTIVE
NOTARIES PUBLIC. AND TO
ILLUSTRATE THIS TAKE A LOOK AT
SIERRA COUNTY NIGHT OF OCT
SIERRA COUNTY CALIFORNIA WHICH
THE COUNTY MORE THAN THIRTY TWO
HUNDRED RESIDENTS THAT IS DOWN
TO JUST FOUR ACTIVE NOTARIES
PUBLIC. AND WHEN YOU CONSIDER
SOMETHING LIKE THE SOLIDIFY
MORTGAGE EXPERIENCE REPORT THAT
ROUTINELY SHOWS US YEAR AFTER
YEAR THAT MORE THAN 80% OF
BORROWERS PREFER AN IN PERSON
CLOSING EXPERIENCE. WE FEEL THAT
ANY BILL- THAT PUSHES TO ADOPT
ON MY NOTARIZATION IN CALIFORNIA
SHOULD INCLUDE LANGUAGE THAT IT
TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE- SO UNTIL
THAT IS DONE WE- REMAIN OPPOSED
THANKS VERY MUCH THANK YOU. ANY
OTHER WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION.
GOOD MORNING DANNY CANDLE
BECAUSE OUR ON BEHALF OF THE FEW
DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS WHAT
FIRST OF ALL WANT TO THANK THE
AUTHORS OFFICE. AND THE SPONSORS
FOR THE CONVERSATION ABOUT OUR
CONCERNS- I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF
THE ELECTRONIC FRONTIER
FOUNDATION PUBLIC COUNCIL BUT
SAID IT LEGAL SERVICES OLDER
LAWN ADVOCACY. LEGAL ASSISTANCE
FOR SENIORS AND CALIFORNIA
ADVOCATES FOR NURSING HOME
REFORM CONTINUE TO HAVE CONCERNS
AROUND PRIVACY A DATA BREACH AND
ELDER JUSTICE THANK YOU. THANK
YOU SEEN NO FURTHER WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION MISS PAP. SO I JUST
HAD A QUICK QUESTION BECAUSE-
WHAT TO TIMES A NOTARY COMES
INTO PLAY BECAUSE IT AFFECTS
REAL PROPERTY AND THAT'S
CERTAINLY WITHIN THE-
JURISDICTION IF YOU WILL OF
CALIFORNIA SO I JUST WANNA MAKE
SURE IF. IT IS THAT ANY NOTARY
THAT'S OPERATING OUTSIDE OF
STATE IS GOING TO HAVE TO KNOW
ALL THE RULES THAT WERE THAT
APPLY TO NOTARIES WITHIN OUR
STATE AND FOLLOW THOSE. BECAUSE
WE DON'T WANT TO YOU KNOW GIVE
UP OUR ABILITY TO ENSURE THAT
REAL PROPERTY TRANSACTIONS- HAVE
ANY COMPROMISE TO THEM. SO THAT
WAS KIND OF MY QUESTION BECAUSE
I DIDN'T I DIDN'T HEAR. ANYTHING
ABOUT WHAT'S GOING TO BE
MANDATED FOR THE OUT OF STATE
NOTARIES. THAT'S NOT THE CASE
UNDER THE BELT SO. NOTARIES ARE
PUBLIC OFFICIALS ARE
COMMISSIONED BY EACH INDIVIDUAL
STATE AND THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW
THE LAWS OF THEIR OWN
COMMISSIONING STATE. THOSE OTHER
FORTY SIX STATES THAT HAVE
ALLOWED ONLINE NOTARIZATION DO
NOT RESTRICT WHERE THE SIGNERS
CAN BE LOCATED. SO THE NOTARIES
ARE PERFORMING IN NOTARIZATION
BASED ON THE STATE'S LAWS THAT'S
ALL THAT THEY'RE DOING IS
FOLLOWING THE NOTARIZATION.
CALIFORNIA DOES RECOGNIZE
NOTARIZATION IS PERFORMED OUT OF
STATE INCLUDING REMOTE ONLINE
NOTARIZATION. I BELIEVE EVERY
COUNTY HAS RECORDED A REMOTE
ONLINE NOTARIZATION PERFORMED BY
NOTARY OUT OF STATE. THAT DOES
NOT AFFECT THE OTHER
REQUIREMENTS FOR THE DOCUMENT
FOR TO BE RECORDED RECORD
ABILITY IS NOT TOUCHED BY THE
NOTARIZATION THEY'RE JUST
COMPLETING THAT ONE PORTION OF
THE CLOSING THE NATURE. IS THAT
SO I NEEDED ENOUGH OKAY THANK
YOU MISTER SALIH TECHNICAL
QUESTION I DO SUPPORT
MODERNIZING THE NOTARY BUSINESS-
WOULD THESE BE LIKE VIDEO.
CONFERENCES LIKE HOW WITH THE
ACTUAL. AND ACTION GO DOWN. SO
THERE ARE MULTIPLE STEPS THAT
ARE INVOLVED- A VERY BRIEF AND
ROUGH EXPLANATION IS THAT THE
NOTARY AND THE SIGN ARE
CONNECTED THEY ARE USUALLY
CONNECTED OVER SOME KIND OF
PLATFORM LIKE. THERE ARE MANY
OUT THERE- AND THEY'RE GOING TO
HAVE A PROPRIETARY SYSTEM TO
WHERE THERE THERE'S A DOCUMENT
ON SCREEN BOTH THE SIGNER AND
THE NOTARY ARE ALSO THERE.
THAT'S BEING THE INTERACTION
BETWEEN THE NUMBER IN THE CENTER
BEING RECORDED. THEY'RE
CONNECTED AFTER OF THE SIGNER
HAS COMPLETED IDENTITY
VERIFICATION THE RESULTS OF THAT
IS GIVEN TO THE NOTARY TO HELP
THEM I. DEFY THE SIGNER WHICH
IS. THEIR JOB THEY WITNESSED THE
SIGNING AND INCOMPLETE THIS
DOCUMENT BY APPLYING THEIR
SIGNATURE OR SEAL SO SOMEONE I
APPRECIATE THAT SOMEONE'S
LITIGATED THIS INACTION ACROSS
HERE ACTUALLY THINK THIS GIVES
US MORE EVIDENCE THAT WE HAVE
NOW. MOST NOTARIES THERE IS
NOTHING RECORDED OTHER THAN THE
SIGNATURE AND THUMBPRINT AND
THIS SOUNDS LIKE WE WOULD HAVE
VIDEO EVIDENCE. OF THE
TRANSACTION QUESTION QUESTION SO
I DO SUPPORT THAT SO THANK YOU
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR A MISTER
KALRA. THANK YOU I'M JUST AND I
APPRECIATE- THE REPRESENTS THE
TWENTY GENERAL'S OFFICE HERE
INDICATING THE CONTINUED EFFORT
AND DESIRE TO CONTINUE TO WORK
ON THIS AND- A COUPLE OF THE
ITEMS THAT WERE. RAISED IN IN
THE COMMITTEE ANALYSIS- ONE
HAVING TO DO WITH LIMITING. THE
BILL TO CALIFORNIA LICENSED
UNDER REASON ANOTHER ONE
REGARDING LIABILITY PROVISIONS
OF THOSE THINGS THAT- CENTER
COMMUNITY CONTINUE TO WORK ON
WITH THE SECRETARY OF STATE WITH
THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE.
YEAH OBVIOUSLY THE CONVERSATIONS
ARE CONTINUING- I APPRECIATE
THEM BOTH BEING HERE YOU KNOW
WE'RE WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS
THE CONCERNS CAN I PROMISE YOU
THAT EVERY SINGLE CONCERNED THAT
EVERYBODY'S RACE IS GOING TO BE
ADDRESSED TO THEIR SATISFACTION
NO- BUT I CAN PROMISE YOU THAT
WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE BE
HAVING ROBUST CONVERSATIONS
BECAUSE- YOU KNOW. WE WANT TO
GET A SIGNATURE ON THIS BILL.
YOU KNOW WE WANT TO GET
SOMETHING TO THE SYSTEM THAT
PEOPLE ARE ARE COMPLETELY
COMFORTABLE WITH BECAUSE WE
ALSO. YOU KNOW DON'T WANT TO PUT
IT ON THE GOVERNOR'S DESK AND
HAVE FOLKS SAYING VETO IT SO. I
THINK IT'S TO IT TO EVERYBODY'S
INTEREST TO TRY TO WORK OUT AS
MANY. OF THE CONCERNS IT'S
POSSIBLE. AND ON THOSE BUT ISSUE
OF BILL BEING THE NEW TO KIND OF
. NOTARY'S AGAIN YOU KNOW HOW
THEY HAVE IN THIS OFFICE AND
SELF INTEREST OF LOOKING OUT FOR
THE INTERESTS OF. THOSE THAT ARE
WORKING AS NOTARIES OUR STATE AS
WELL AS THE VALIDITY ASPECT OF
ENSURING THAT. THEY CAN AS
MENTIONED YOU KNOW UNDERSTAND.
THE INS AND OUTS OF CALIFORNIA
LAW. I DO APPROPRIATE MANNER IS
THAT SOMETHING THAT- IS. YOU
THINK THAT THERE MAY BE A
RESOLUTION ON THAT IS THAT ONE
OF THE ITEMS AS ANY LITTLE MORE
DIFFICULT. I THINK I THINK. THE
ROLE OF THE NOTARY ISN'T
NECESSARILY TO BE THE LAWYER IN
THE TRANSACTION THE ROLE OF THE
NOTARIES TO MAKE SURE. THAT THE
RIGHT AND APPROPRIATE PEOPLE ARE
SIGNING THE RIGHT DOCUMENTS SO I
THINK WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL. OF
MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE WE'RE NOT
SAYING. ALL MEMORIES LEAD
ATTORNEYS- AND SO I THINK WE'LL
TROUBLE LOOK INTO THAT- AGAIN I
CAN'T PROMISE YOU THAT WE'LL END
UP WITH SOMETHING THAT. WILL BE
. TO THE NTH DEGREE SAYING THAT
EVERYONE HAS TO BE. YOU KNOW
INTIMATELY FAMILIAR WITH EVERY
ASPECT OF EVERY CONTRACT BUT
THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE ROLE
OF THE NOTARY. I UNDERSTAND THAT
THERE IS LEGAL IMPLICATIONS
OBVIOUSLY. HAVING A DOCUMENT
NOTARIZED ESPECIALLY AS
MANAGEMENT PROPERTY
TRANSACTIONS. AND THE LAST THING
IS JUST ON THE- THE PRIVACY
ASPECTS OF THE DATA COLLECTION
AND- SHARING THAT- THAT ARE THE
CONSUMER PRIVACY IS. YOU KNOW
BUT BUT WE DO TEND TO HAVE
STRONGER LAWS- THAN MANY OTHER
JURISDICTIONS AND THAT- THAT'LL
BE ACCOUNTED FOR AS WELL- IN IN
THIS LEGISLATION AS YOU CONTINUE
TO WORK ON IT. AND IF YOU HAVE
SPECIFIC SUGGESTIONS I WOULD
LIKE TO HEAR WHAT. YOU KNOW WHAT
YOU CAN BRING ON THAT
CONVERSATION AS WELL BUT NO
WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO HAVE
SOMETHING BE. PRONE TO DATA
BREACH. THANK YOU I THINK YOU.
AT THIS CZECHO. SO MY QUESTIONS
MORE A LOGISTICAL I MIGHT- LIFE
NOTARY. ODD AND WE ALWAYS
COLLECT THEM PRINCE OF HOW WILL
THAT WORK IF IT'S- IT'S GONNA BE
VIRTUAL DO WE- TWO IS OUR
INABILITY TO COLLECT SOME
FRIENDS ARE WE GOING TO BE FOR
GOING COLLECTING. SOME PRINCE.
THE THUMBPRINT. IS EXEMPTED FOR
ONLINE NOTARIZATION AND THE
REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE OF
THE ADDITIONAL PIECES OF
EVIDENCE THAT- MEMBER SALIH
MENTIONED BEFORE REGARDING THE
AV RECORDING. ELECTRONIC JOURNAL
ELECTRONIC DOCUMENT THE TAMPER
SEAL PROTECTION THE IDENTITY
VERIFICATION CENTRES GONE
THROUGH BEFORE ALL OF THAT
INFORMATION IS RETAINED. FOR
INDEFINITELY AS WRITTEN FOR THE
JOURNAL- SO THE THUMBPRINT IS
NOT GONNA BE PART OF IT. SO ARE
WE SUPPOSED TO HAVE TWO
DIFFERENT TYPES OF JOURNALS ARE
READ TO HAVE- OUR PAPER JOURNAL
AND THEN OUR ONLINE JOURNAL
THAT'S CORRECT. THANK I SEE NO
FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS
FROM THE COMMITTEE TO EMOTION. I
JUST I JUST. MISTER SELLING
MOVES SAN. SECOND ALL RIGHT.
WITH THAT. THAT'S KIND OF AN-
ONE AS- AND ASK. ASSEMBLY MAKE I
WAS RIVER IN MY- YES I. IT'S
BEEN I'M BUT I'M A BORING PERSON
YET SO- JUDAS SIX I- I WOULD
REALLY APPRECIATE CONVERSATION I
THINK YOU KNOW THAT CALM AND OF
YOU KNOW LOSING TWENTY THOUSAND
NOTARIES- YOU KNOW REALLY. MEANS
THAT IT'S HARD FOR PEOPLE TO
FIND SOMEBODY WERE USED TO BE.
MUCH EASIER YOU KNOW- A
PARTICULAR RURAL PARTS OF THE
STATE YOU KNOW. AND SO WE HAVE
TO MODERNIZE THIS YOU KNOW WE
HAVE TO HAVE- SET BEST PRACTICES
WE HAVE TO CREATE A STEP THAT
THE SYSTEM WHERE YOU KNOW WE'RE
IN THE TWENTY FIRST CENTURY AND
WE ALLOW PEOPLE ACCESS. TO
TRANSACTIONS IN A WAY THAT MAKES
SENSE FOR THEM AND SO WE'RE
TRYING TO GET THERE AND I
RESPECTFULLY ASTRONOMICAL THANK
YOU MOTIONS TO PASS
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE ASKED
THE COURT TO PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL MAIENSCHEIN AYE MENTION AYE
SALIH. AYE SALIH AYE CONLEY.
CONNELLY I DIXON AYE DIXON AYE
HANEY. AYE HANEY AYE KALRA RIGHT
KALRA HYPE CZECHO FIVE THE
CZECHO I PASS. HAPPEN I. REYES
IDLY SANCHEZ SANCHEZ YOUR BILL
IS. OUT CENTER SKINNER. AND
WHILE SHE IS A AT OUR CENTER
ROOM TO PLEASE COME OVER IS OUR
LAST- ITEM AND I'D ASK ANY
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE WHO ARE
NOT HERE. WHICH PACKED ASSEMBLY
MEMBER LEE TO PLEASE HEAD OVER-
AND WHAT DO ADD ONS AT THAT TIME
. WELCOME CENTERS GAME MAY
PRESENT YOU MAY PROCEED. THANK
YOU SO MUCH- CHAIR AND MEMBERS I
AM VERY PLEASED TO BE HERE TO
PERCENT. SB. SIX EIGHTY- I THINK
IT. IS VERY WELL KNOWN. TO ALL
OF US. THE DAMAGE UNFORTUNATELY
THE DAMAGE THAT CERTAIN FEATURES
THAT ARE BUILT IN TO THE
PLATFORMS ARE SOCIAL MEDIA'S
COMPANIES USE. THAT THOSE
FEATURES WHILE WE COULD TALK
ABOUT VARIOUS IMPACTS THEY MAY
HAVE HAD ON THE CULTURE IN
GENERAL OR THE SOCIETY FOR OUR
YOUTH AND OUR CHILDREN THEY HAVE
BEEN PARTICULAR DAMAGING. FIRST
AND FOREMOST THOSE ODD DESIGN
FEATURES IN THE ALGORITHMS BEING
ONE OF THE KEY. ARE ARE DESIGNED
TO HAVE THE USER BE CAPTURED AND
STAY ON AYE SHE CAPTURED THAT'S
MAYBE NOT THE BEST PHRASE TO USE
BUT BASICALLY TO KEEP THE USER
ON THE PLATFORM. AND THE
RESEARCH HAS SHOWN THAT OUR
CHILDREN ARE PARTICULARLY
VULNERABLE TO THAT AND WHEN WE
LOOK AT THE DATA OF THE NUMBER
OF HOURS THAT OUR CHILDREN SPENT
ON THESE PLATFORMS IT IS CLEAR
THERE IS. THERE'S NO RESEARCH
THAT REFUTES IT AND- AND TO PUT
THE BURDEN ON PARENTS THE
PARENTS ARE SUPPOSED TO CONTROL
THIS. CIRCUMSTANCE WE KNOW IT'S
AN UNFAIR BURDEN NOW NOT ONLY DO
THESE PLATFORMS FEATURES. THAT
CONTRIBUTE TO THE ADDICTION OF
OUR KIDS YEAR ON THE USE OF
THESE PLATFORMS THERE ALSO- THE
TARGET THE USER TO- TO VERY
DAMAGING OR MATERIAL THAT WE'VE
SEEN AND THE RESEARCH DOCUMENTED
CAUSES CHILDREN TO INFLICT HARM
ON THEMSELVES OR OTHERS. AND
THAT INCLUDES ON EATING
DISORDERS ON SUICIDE ON A WHOLE
VARIETY OF AREAS LIKE THAT AND
THEN FINALLY WHAT RESEARCH HAS
SHOWN IS THAT IT IS EASIER TO
PROCURE. A SOMETHING LIKE A
GHOST GUN OR- ILLEGAL SUBSTANCES
- DIFFERENT- ILLEGAL OR
CONTROLLED DRUGS THAT CONTAIN
FENTANYL FASTER ON THESE SOCIAL
MEDIA PLATFORMS WITHOUT YOU EVEN
SEARCHING FOR EITHER. OF THOSE
ITEMS BUT THEY POP UP. ANDING ON
THE U. IT IS FASTER TO GET HOLD
OF THOSE ITEMS THROUGH SOCIAL
MEDIA THEN TO GET THE UBER OR
LIFT CAR THAT YOU HAVE ASKED
WHEN YOU CALLED FOR ON YOUR APP.
NOW IT ARE WHEN WE SEE HARM THAT
A COMPANY HAS NOT CORRECTED AND
OF COURSE ALL OF US WOULD HOPE
THAT WITH SUCH RESEARCH
COMPANIES THEMSELVES WOULD
CORRECT THESE THINGS BUT THEY
HAVE NOT. AND WE'RE MORE THAN A
DECADE INTO THIS. VERY DOMINANT
USE OF SOCIAL MEDIA BY. EVERYONE
BUT OUR KIDS ESPECIALLY. AND OF
COURSE IT IS LEGITIMATE THAT FOR
YEARS WE WERE PRETTY MUCH HANDS
OFF IN TERMS OF THE TECH
INDUSTRY BECAUSE WE DID NOT WANT
TO STIFLE INNOVATION. BUT WE'RE
NOW AT THE POINT WHERE IT IS
CLEAR THAT THE CERTAIN ASPECTS
OF THE DESIGN FEATURES OF OUR
SOCIAL MEDIA ARE REALLY CAUSING
HARM. AND WE NEED TO ACT TO HELP
CORRECT IT SO THAT IS THE
PURPOSE OF THE BILL I WILL GO
INTO SOME KEY POINTS DOWN AT MY
CLOTHES BUT I'M GONNA LET MY-
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT SPEAK
FIRST. AND I HAVE. A SKEWS ME
ANTHONY LIU FROM THE OUR
ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE HE'S
DEPUTY AG OF THE OFFICE OF
LEGISLATIVE AFFAIRS IN THE BILL
SPONSORED BY ATTORNEY GENERAL
BONTA AND I HAVE ALSO NANCY
MCGEE WHO IS THE SUPERINTENDENT
OF SCHOOLS FOR SAN MATTEO
COUNTY. THANK YOU FIRST WITNESS
TWO MINUTES EACH. RIGHT TORONTO
. HI GOOD MORNING NAME IS
ANTHONY LEE WITH CAL DEPARTMENT
OF JUSTICE OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE
AFFAIRS. AT BONTA IS PLEASED TO
SPONSOR SENATE BILL SIX EIGHTY
AND WE THINK SENATOR SKINNER
FOR. LEADING ON THIS IMPORTANT
LEGISLATION TO PROTECT THE
MENTAL AND PHYSICAL HEALTH. OF
CALIFORNIA CHILDREN. AS CHILDREN
SPEND MORE TIME ON SOCIAL MEDIA
PLATFORMS THE PARENT THAT THE
USE OF SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS
CAN LEAD TO HARMFUL OUTCOMES OF
CHILDREN AND A NUMBER OF WAYS.
FOR EXAMPLE RESEARCH SHOWS THAT
SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORM ADDICTION
HAS A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON HELPING
SOCIALIZATION AND CHILDREN. AYE
CONTRIBUTES TO FEELINGS OF
SOCIAL ISOLATION IN YOUNG
PEOPLE. AND OTHER RESEARCH
INDICATES THAT TIME SPENT ON
SOCIAL MEDIA IS CORRELATED WITH
THE RATES OF SUICIDE AND
DEPRESSION. AMONG TEENS
ESPECIALLY GIRLS. SOCIAL MEDIA
ADDICTION AND ITS RESULTANT
HARMS AREN'T URGENT THREAT TO
CALIFORNIA'S CHILDREN. AND IN
THE AG'S OFFICE WE'RE TACKLING
THIS THREAT DALY. AND WITH SB
SIX EIGHTY. WOULD GIVE
CALIFORNIA LAW ENFORCEMENT
IMPORTANT NEW TOOL TO PROTECT
OUR CHILDREN. THE BILL WOULD
PROHIBIT LARGE SOCIAL MEDIA.
COMPANIES FROM KNOWINGLY OR
NEGLIGENTLY USING A DESIGN
ALGORITHM A FEATURE. THE COMPANY
KNEW OR SHOULD HAVE KNOWN
BECAUSE THIS CHILD USERS TO
EXPERIENCE ADDICTION TO THE
SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORM. TO
DEVELOP AN EATING DISORDER OR
INFLICT HARM ON THEMSELVES OR
OTHERS. ANOTHER BILL SOCIAL
MEDIA COMPANIES COULD BE HELD
LIABLE FOR SENDING CHILD USERS
INFORMATION. REGARDING HOW TO
OBTAIN FIREARMS OR CONTROLLED
SUBSTANCES OR HOW TO DIE BY
SUICIDE IF THE SHOT ACT ON THAT
INFORMATION. THE AG REAFFIRMS
THE NEED FOR STRONG SAFEGUARDS
IN CALIFORNIA THAT PROTECT NOT
ONLY THE PRIVACY RIGHTS OF
CHILDREN BUT THAT ALSO. ADDRESS
THE REAL DEMONSTRATED HARMS. IT
WILL DEMONSTRATE A HEINZ TO THE
PHYSICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH OF
CHILDREN ASSOCIATED WITH THE USE
OF SOCIAL MEDIA. FOR THESE
REASONS- RIPLEY'S A SPONSOR SB
SIX EIGHTY AND URGE YOU TO VOTE
I TODAY. THANK YOU NEXT WITNESS.
GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING MR
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS I'M NANCY MCGEE
A LIFELONG EDUCATOR WITH TWENTY
YEARS AS A HIGH SCHOOL TEACHER
IN SAN DIEGO BEFORE MOVING TO
SAN MATTEO IN TWO THOUSAND TEN.
ELECTED SAN MATTEO COUNTY
SUPERINTENDENT IN TWENTY
EIGHTEEN I'M HERE TODAY TO URGE
SUPPORT. FOR SB SIX EIGHTY
SENATOR SKINNER'S PROPOSED
LEGISLATION. HAVING SOCIAL MEDIA
COMPANIES FROM DESIGNING
PLATFORMS THAT CAUSE HARM TO
YOUTH. AS A TEACHER I CAN ATTEST
TO HOW TECHNOLOGY CAN ENHANCE
INSTRUCTION. AT THE SAME TIME AS
AN EDUCATION LEADER I CONTEND
DAILY WITH THE MENTAL HEALTH
CRISIS GRIPPING OUR YOUTH. IN
FACT ONLY WEEKS AGO THE U. S.
SURGEON GENERAL RELEASED AN
ADVISORY ON THE IMPACTS OF
SOCIAL MEDIA ON YOUTH. DESPITE
THE MANY WAYS IT POSES A RISK
95% OF THIRTEEN TO SEVENTEEN
YEAR OLDS REPORT USING SOCIAL
MEDIA AND MORE THAN A THIRD SAY
THEY USE SOCIAL MEDIA ALMOST
CONSTANTLY. MORE CONCERNING THE
ADVISORY REPORTS ONE THIRD OR
MORE OF GIRLS AGE ELEVEN TO
FIFTEEN SAY THEY FEEL ADDICTED
TO CERTAIN SOCIAL MEDIA
PLATFORMS. OUR SCHOOLS ARE NOT
SPARED THESE IMPACTS FOR BETTER
OR WORSE SOCIAL MEDIA DRIVEN
CULTURE INFLUENCES STUDENT
BEHAVIOR HOW THEY TREAT OTHERS
AND THEMSELVES HOW THEY SHOW UP
FOR LEARNING. IT'S RARE TO MEET
A PARENT WHO DOESN'T SHARE
WORRIES ABOUT THEIR CHILD'S
ANXIETY. I HEAR STORY AFTER
STORY FROM PARENTS YOU'VE TRIED
EVERY TRICK IN THE BOOK TO
ESTABLISH CLEAR BOUNDARIES
BETWEEN THEIR CHILDREN AND THEIR
DEVICES USUALLY WITH LIMITED
SUCCESS. SB SIX EIGHTY PROVIDES
AN ON RAMP TO ACTION WE CANNOT
PUT THE SOLELY ON OUR FAMILIES
AND OUR SCHOOLS. SOCIAL MEDIA
COMPANIES CAN PRIORITIZE USER
USER WELL BEING OVER METRICS AND
STILL PROFIT. AS GREAT
INNOVATORS THEY CAN AND SHOULD
IMPLEMENT SAFEGUARDS TO PROTECT
YOUTH AGAINST ADDICTIVE
ALGORITHMS. SB SIX EIGHTY WOULD
BE HISTORIC TOWARDS ESTABLISHING
COMMON SENSE REGULATIONS THAT
PROTECT OUR GREATEST RESOURCE
CALIFORNIA STUDENTS I URGE YOUR
SUPPORT THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR
ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
SAMUEL GOODMAN HERE ON BEHALF OF
KIM STONE OF STONE ADVOCACY
REPRESENTING. CHILDREN
CHILDREN'S ADVOCACY INSTITUTE
AND THE CALIFORNIA DISTRICT
ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION IN STRONG
SUPPORT. GOOD MORNING CATHY VAN
OSTERN MDM STRATEGY GROUP OF
REPRESENTING AMERICAN
ASSOCIATION OF UNIVERSITY WOMEN
CALIFORNIA IN STRONG SUPPORT.
GOOD MORNING JERRY MEMBERS
MCKENNA JENKINS WITH NEXT IN
CALIFORNIA IN STRONG SUPPORT.
THE MORNING COREY HAS SHE'D ON
BEHALF OF THE STEINBERG
INSTITUTE IN SUPPORT. CAN YOU
PAIR WITH COMMON SENSE MEDIA ON
BEHALF OF HASHTAG HALF THE STORY
JEWISH FAMILY AND CHILDREN'S
SERVICES OF SAN FRANCISCO IN
PARENTS TELEVISION IMMEDIATE
COUNSELING SUPPORT. MY NAME IS
ALLEY SO IF I AM HIGH SCHOOL
STUDENT HERE IN SACRAMENTO AND
USE LOBBYIST FOR HALF THE STORY-
I'M HERE TO SUPPORT SB SIX
EIGHTY. MY NAME IS NEIL WHY I'M
SIXTEEN YEARS OLD AND I'M A
RISING SENIOR ASKING FRIENDS
HIGH SCHOOL AND I'M HERE IN
SUPPORT- SO JOHNSON FROM THE
CHILDREN'S ADVOCACY INSTITUTE IN
STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU SEE NO
FURTHER WITNESSES AND SUPPORT
WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION-
COMMITTEE. WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO
CREATE SPACE IN THE TABLE DF WE
NEED TO. TWENTY TWO CHAIRS FOR
THE OKAY GREAT YEP THANK YOU.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIRMAN BIRDS
LEE ANY TARGET WITH TECHNION WE
ARE RESPECTFULLY OPPOSED SB SIX
EIGHTY WE FULLY SUPPORT THE GOAL
OF THIS BILL TO PROTECT CHILD
USERS ON SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS.
ARE PLATFORMS TAKE AGGRESSIVE
ACTION TO IDENTIFY AND REMOVE
THIRD PARTY CONTENT THAT
VIOLATES THEIR POLICIES THE
BILL'S APPROACH UNFORTUNATELY
VIOLATES FIRST AMENDMENT
PRINCIPLES AND IS PRE EMPTED BY
FEDERAL LAW. FIRST WE BELIEVE
THIS BILL IS FUNDAMENTALLY ABOUT
CONTENT THE BILL BECAUSE IT
INFORMATION AND IS THEREFORE
PREEMPTED BY SECTION TWO THIRTY
WHICH GIVES PLATFORMS THE RIGHT
TO MODERATE CONTENT WITHOUT THE
THREAT OF LIABILITY. SECOND THE
BILL PROHIBITS ANY DESIGNS IT
FEATURES OR ALGORITHMS THAT
COULD CAUSE A CHILD USER TO TAKE
CERTAIN ACTIONS BUT THE BILL IS
INCREDIBLY UNCLEAR ABOUT HOW
THAT CAUSATION HAPPENS ONE OF
THE ACTION SUBJECT TO LIABILITY
IS OF A CHILD DEVELOPS AN EATING
DISORDER WE ACKNOWLEDGE THE
SERIOUSNESS OF THIS ISSUE. BUT
IT'S FAIR TO ASK UNDER THIS BILL
WOULD FUELING A WORKOUT VIDEO BE
CONSIDERED TO TRIGGER AN EATING
DISORDER DOES BECAUSE I MEAN
THAT THE PLATFORM IS THE ONLY
FACTOR FOR THE EATING DISORDER A
CONTRIBUTING FACTOR A
SUBSTANTIAL FACTOR. AND WITHOUT
APPLY TO ALL CHILD USERS ANY
CHILD USER OR THE AVERAGE CHILD
USER AND AGAIN THE BILL CALLS
OUT NOT THE CONTENT THE VIEW BUT
THE DESIGNS ARE FEATURES THAT
DELIVERED IT TO THEM BECAUSE OF
THIS AMBIGUITY OF THE SAFE
HARBOR IS UNUSABLE. SHOULD THE
PLATFORM KNOW THAT THE USER
WOULD DEVELOP AN EATING DISORDER
BECAUSE OF THE NEWS FEED.
FEATURES DESIGNED ALGORITHMS ARE
NOT LIMITED TO SHOWING JUST ONE
TYPE OF CONTENT WHICH IS WHY
THEY WILL SCOPE IN MORE THAN
WHAT'S BEING TARGETED IN THIS
BILL. IT ISN'T POSSIBLE TO
SUFFICIENTLY CORRECT THESE KINDS
OF CORE FEATURES WITHOUT
COMPLETELY DISMANTLING OF
PLATFORMS FUNDAMENTAL DESIGN OR
LIMITING OR RESTRICTING ACCESS
FOR CHILD USERS. FINALLY THE
THREAT OF LIABILITY WILL LEAD
PLATFORMS OVER REMOVE CONTENT
SILENCING LAWFUL SPEECH. WHILE
ATTEMPTING TO PROTECT ALL USERS
FROM HARM THIS BILL WOULD IN
FACT HARM OTHER CHILD USERS
INCLUDING TEENS WHO FIND THEIR
ONLY WELCOMING AND SAFE
COMMUNITIES TO BE ON THESE
PLATFORMS. AGAIN WE APPRECIATE
AND SUPPORT THE INTENT OF THIS
BILL BUT FOR THESE REASONS WE
MUST RESPECTFULLY OPPOSE SB SIX
EIGHTY THANK YOU MAKE YOUR NEXT
WITNESS. GOOD MORNING SHARON
MEMBERS MY NAME IS CAMERA
DIMITRI ON BEHALF OF NET CHOICE
NOT CHOICES A COALITION OF TRADE
ASSOCIATIONS E. COMMERCE
BUSINESSES AND ONLINE CONSUMERS
ALL OF WHICH SHARE THE GOAL OF
PROMOTING. CHOICE IN COMMERCE ON
THE NET. NET CHOICE RESPECTFULLY
OPPOSES SB SIX EIGHTY AS IT
WOULD EXACERBATE MANY OF THE
CHALLENGES THAT CALIFORNIA TEENS
AND PARENTS HAVE. WHEN IT COMES
TO NAVIGATE IN THE MENTAL
HEALTH. THE BILL DOES LITTLE TO
ADDRESS THE UNDERLYING ISSUES
RAISED BY SOCIAL MEDIA. WHICH IS
RESPONSIBLE USE OF THE
TECHNOLOGY. THE BILL EXACERBATES
AN ALREADY UNCONSTITUTIONAL LAW
FOLLOWING THE SAME APPROACH
CALIFORNIA TOOK TWENTY YEARS
AGO. WHEN VIDEO GAMES WERE THE
FOCUS OF LEGISLATION AT THE
TIME. THEN THE SUPREME COURT
STRUCK DOWN THE LAW SEVEN TO TWO
DECISION. WHEN THE STATE TRIED
TO BAN THE SELLING OF VIDEO
GAMES DISPLAYING HARMFUL CONTENT
AND TWENTY OR TWO THOUSAND AND
THREE. TODAY TEENAGERS USE THE
INTERNET ONLINE SEEK OUT TO HELP
AND S. AND USE ASSISTANCE
PARTICULARLY THOSE STRUGGLING
WITH IDENTITY. AND ADDRESS
MENTAL HEALTH AND SOCIAL ISSUES
TO THEM THIS IS A FORM OF
INFORMATION. THIS LEGISLATION
WOULD DENY TEENAGERS AN
IMPORTANT TOOL TO HELP THEM WITH
THEIR SOCIAL EMOTIONAL GROWTH.
FOR EXAMPLE THERE IS A PROVISION
THAT BANS THE SHOWING OF- WAYS
FOR TEENS TO STAY HEALTHY. SUCH
PROVISION MAKES ILLEGAL
ADVERTISEMENTS OR PSAS TELLING
TEENS TO GET UP AND MOVE. GO TO
THE GYM. AND THERE CAN BE. CASES
WHERE IF YOU ARE ASKING A CHILD
TO EAT LESS PROCESSED MEAT THAT
WOULD EVEN BE ILLEGAL UNDER THE
AUSPICES OF THE CURRENT
LANGUAGE. EVEN THE APA OWN
REPORT ON SOCIAL MEDIA. CONTRA
SB SIX EIGHTY SAYS THAT. AND
EXTOL BENEFITS OF SOCIAL MEDIA.
DATA SUGGEST THAT USED
PSYCHOLOGICAL DEVELOPMENT MAY
BENEFIT FROM THIS TYPE OF ONLINE
SOCIAL INTERACTION ESPECIALLY
FOR YOUTH WHO EXPERIENCE
ADVERSITY OR ISOLATION AN OFF
LINE ENVIRONMENTS. IN ADDITION
TO ITS IMPACT ON TEENS THIS BILL
WOULD HINDER LEGITIMATE SPEECH
OF CALIFORNIA ADULTS. THIS LAW
IS EVEN MORE BROADLY A POT
APPLIED AS IT IS RELATED TO ALL
WEBSITES MAKING CALIFORNIA AN ID
FOR INTERNET YOU STATE- WE HOPE
THAT RATHER THAN DOUBLING DOWN
ON UNCONSTITUTIONAL LEGISLATION.
THE STATE INSTEAD SHOULD HELP
TAKE THE NATIONAL LEAD IN
EDUCATE TEENS PARENTS AND ALL
RESIDENTS ON HOW TO BE GOOD
DIGITAL CITIZENS AND PROTECT
THEIR PRIVACY AND DATA SECURITY.
ONLINE THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME
THANK YOU ANY OTHER WITNESSES
AND OPPOSITION. GOOD MORNING
CHEN MEMBERS NAMELY PROJECT ON
BEHALF OF THE COMPUTER AND
COMMUNICATIONS INDUSTRY
ASSOCIATION AND RESPECTFUL
OPPOSITION. MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS
COURTNEY JENSEN ON BEHALF OF C.
JACK AND RESPECTFUL POSITION.
GOOD MORNING WE'RE NOT DEALING
WITH THE CALIFORNIA CHAMBER OF
COMMERCE RESPECTFULLY ALSO IN
OPPOSITION THANK YOU. THANK YOU
SEEN NO FURTHER WITNESSES AND
OPPOSITION ANY QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS FROM THE COMMITTEE.
WITH THE- MOTION FOR MISTER
KALRA. SECOND FROM ISRAEL S. MR
SALIH. I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS I
CENTER. UGH I'D- NO ONE CAN
DISPUTE THE CRISIS I THINK WE'RE
HAVING TO PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS
WITH YOUTH ON SOCIAL MEDIA I
MEAN IT. IT'S CLEAR THAT
DEPRESSION ANXIETY SUICIDE
EATING DISORDERS. BULLYING YOU
JUST GO DOWN THE LIST IT'S A
PUBLIC CRISIS THE QUESTION IS
HOW DO WE ADDRESS IT HOW DO WE
DO IT- I SUPPORT THIS BILL IN
ITS EFFORTS BUT I'D I DO HAVE
SOME SERIOUS CONCERNS GIVEN THE
SUPREME COURT CASE AND SO. I
WOULD ASK THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S
OFFICE GIVEN THE SUPREME COURT'S
CASE WHERE THEY SAID. ISIS
RECRUITING THE ALGORITHMS- THAT
WE'RE PUSHING ISIS CONTENT TO
RECRUIT. THEM- TERRORISTS. THAT
THAT WAS PROTECTED AND THE COURT
SAID IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN A
TELEPHONE COMPANY WHOSE SERVICES
ARE USED TO BROKER TO DRUG DEALS
SO. GIVEN THE SUPREME COURT'S
INTERPRETATION HOW ARE WE GOING
TO OVERCOME THIS IN COURT. THE
PROBLEM. GOOD MORNING I'M STATE
DISASTER HERE ON BEHALF OF THE
ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE I'M I
THINK THAT THE BEST WAY TO
ANSWER QUESTION IS THAT THE
SUPREME COURT DECLINED TO
ACTUALLY. REASON IN THE RECENT
CASE LAW REGARDING ON THE CASE
THAT YOU DECIDED ABOUT WHETHER
OR NOT THIS WAS A PROTECTED
SPEECH OR PROTECTED CONTENT I'M
THEY DID NOT MAKE A DECISION FOR
EXAMPLE IF IT WAS- PROHIBITED
UNDER. THE COMMUNICATIONS
DECENCY ACT TWO THIRTY. THE BILL
IS NOT ABOUT CONTENT THE BILL IS
DOES NOT RUN AFOUL OF TWO THIRTY
IT MAKES NO REFERENCE TO
CONTENT. BUT INSTEAD REQUIRES A
POP FORMS. ABOUT HOW THEY MAKE
DESIGN DECISIONS AND THAT IS WHY
THIS IS NOT A CREATE A CONCERN
ABOUT SPEECH. THREE C. DESIGN
THOUGH I MEAN SO IF YOU'RE
SAYING THAT A STUDENT- LET'S SEE
STUDENT- WANTS. TO BUY DRUGS OR
SOMETHING AND THEY USE A CODE
WORD FOR. HOGG I THINK IS A VERY
UBIQUITOUS ONE AND THEN THE
ALGORITHM STARTS. GIVING THEM
PROFILES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT IS
THAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT'S NOT
CONTENT BASED THAT THAT THAT.
WHAT THEY'RE SEARCHING HOW
THEY'RE BEING CONNECTED I. I'M
HAVING A HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING
HOW IT'S GOING TO LOGISTICALLY
PLAY OUT ON THE PLATFORM AGAIN I
SUPPORT THAT SO I'M JUST TRYING
TO UNDERSTAND IT. I'M SO I THINK
WHAT THE BILL DOES IT'S PERSONAL
IT EXPLICITLY SAYS THAT IF
THERE'S ANYTHING THAT IS
PROTECTED AS CONTENT IT'S NOT
GOING TO COST LIABILITY THERE'S
A SAVINGS CLAUSE REGARDING. TO
THIRTY REGARDING THE FIRST
AMENDMENT AND SO THAT SORT OF
BOUNCES THOSE OBLIGATIONS THERE
WHAT IT DOES IS IT REQUIRES-
EXAMINATION ON WHETHER OR NOT
THE ALGORITHM OR THE DESIGN OF
THOSE PROP OF THE PRODUCT IT
NEEDS TO BE REASONABLY SAY FIRST
BURKE FOR CATS. AND SO IF THE
ALGORITHM IS DESIGNED IN SUCH A
WAY TO CAUSE A CHILD TO HARM
THEMSELVES THAT IS WHAT THE BILL
TRIES TO GET OUT AS OPPOSED TO-
LIKE FOR EXAMPLE IF IT LEADS
THEM TO SPECIFIC CONTENT.
THERE'S A DISTINCTION THAT RIGHT
IT'S FOCUSING ON- MAYBE I CAN
GIVE A GOOD EXAMPLE HERE SO IF
THERE IS AID DESIGN- OR AFP OUT
FILTER FOR EXAMPLE THAT SHOWS
KIDS HOW THEY WOULD LOOK IF THEY
WORK FORTY POUNDS THINNER OR-
YOU KNOW THEY HAVE. THEY COULD
CREATE A THIGH GAP OR SOMETHING
THAT WOULD PROMOTE UNHEALTHY
BODY IMAGE. THAT IS A SPECIFIC
TYPE OF FILTER THAT WOULD BE
PROHIBITED UNDER SUPREME COURT
CASE LAW. LIKE LEMON VERSUS SNAP
OKAY THAT IS SPECIFIC AND YOUR
TO WHAT IS THIS THIS PRODUCT
WHAT IS THIS DESIGN OF THE- THE
FILTER TRYING TO PROMOTE IN
TERMS OF CAUSING POTENTIAL HARM
TO KIDS. ON THAT ISN'T THAT THAT
IS REALLY WHERE THIS BILL TRIES
TO DIRECT NOT NOT AT THE- THE
MESSAGE OR THE CONTENT. THAT
SOUNDS WERE WILLFUL SEMI IF
THEY'RE DESIGNING SOMETHING
SPECIFICALLY BUT WHAT IF IT'S-
THEY'RE JUST BEING CONNECTED
WITH OTHER PEOPLE OUR PROFILES
THAT ARE- TRAFFICKING AND
HARMFUL CONTENT. THAT THAT'S A
STRUGGLE I'LL JUST CLOSE IT THIS
AYE AYE AGAIN I DIDN'T THIS IS A
VERY THORNY DIFFICULT ISSUE AND
SO I HOPE WE CAN FIGURE I
NAVIGATED. MY PERSONAL VIEWS ON
IT. I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE
ON SOCIAL MEDIA. AND WE WON'T
HAVE THESE ISSUES SELL EITHER
SOME STATES ARE TAKING THAT LEAD
AND- I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE
HAVE TO SERIOUSLY CONSIDER IT
TODAY I SUPPORT THIS AND- WE'LL
SEE HOW THIS PLAYS OUT. THANK
THANK YOU THANK YOU MYSTICS AND
I THANK YOU CHAIR. I. APPLAUD
YOUR EFFORTS I THINK EVERYONE
IN. PLEASE THE COUNTRY'S LOOKING
AT THIS CAR. HAS BEEN LOOKING AT
THE SO THAT'S NUMBER ONE OF MY
QUESTION. WHERE WHAT IS THE
STATUS OF. THE CONGRESSIONAL
HEARINGS ON THIS AND THEN
NUMBER. QUESTION NUMBER ONE
NUMBER TWO. WITH ARTIFICIAL
INTELLIGENCE COMING INTO PLAY
HERE AND DESIGNING. ALTHOUGH
WITH THE CAR CONTENT OR
INFORMATION I THINK THAT'S GOING
TO BE KIND OF BLURRY AT SOME
POINT. HOW DO YOU EVEN CONTROL
THAT OF THE NUMBER THREE. I
APPLAUD THE EFFORTS OF
CALIFORNIA WANTED TO BE WANTING
TO BE ON THE LEADING EDGE OF
THESE. CRITICALLY IMPORTANT.
ISSUES HOWEVER HOW IS IT GOING
TO BE WHETHER IT'S TICK TOCK OR
FACEBOOK OR INSTAGRAM THAT ARE
OPERATING AND- ALL OVER THE
WORLD. AND HOW WOULD THEY
OPERATE IN CALIFORNIA THAT'S NOT
OUR PROBLEM TO SOLVE THEY'D HAVE
TO COMPORT COMPORT TO CALIFORNIA
LAWS. BUT MAYBE YOU. THIS IS
SUCH A- COMPLEX ISSUE. AND HOW
WE MANAGE INFORMATION. FOR
ANYONE WHETHER IT'S CHILDREN OR
ANYONE IT'S BECOMING. ALL
CONSUMING THAT I ALMOST. I DON'T
KNOW IF IT'S FULLY BAKED YET I
THINK YOU'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK
I JUST THINK THERE A LOT OF
QUESTIONS WHETHER IT'S CONTENT
THAT THE SUPREME COURT OR TWO
THIRTY AND- FREEDOM OF SPEECH
AND THESE ARGUMENTS SUCH AS PUTS
SUCH AN- ONEROUS PENALTY. ON THE
PLATFORMS WHEN THERE IS ALMOST.
UNDER CONTROL WITH ARTIFICIAL
INTELLIGENCE I DON'T KNOW HOW
ANYONE CAN CONTROL AND AUTHORS
AN ANSWER SO. I APPLAUD YOUR
EFFORTS I THINK I'LL JUST
PERHAPS OBTAINED I JUST THINK
THERE'S SO MUCH MORE. TO BE
DETERMINED HOW THIS GETS AN A IN
A LIMITED HEARINGS THAT WE'VE
HAD CONGRESSES HAD WEEKS OF
HEARINGS ON THIS SO WE'RE JUST
DEALING WITH TWO DAYS OF
HEARINGS WITH ABOUT AN HOUR OR
THIRTY MINUTES. I DON'T THINK
WE'RE ADEQUATELY DEVOTING THE
TIME THAT THIS IMPORTANT SUBJECT
MATTER REQUIRES APOLOGY FOR
TRYING TO DO THIS IN ADVANCE THE
DISCUSSION. BUT I THINK WE NEED
TO SPEND A HECK OF A LOT OF TIME
LOOKING AT THIS AND THE
CONSEQUENCES THAT'S MY OPINION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS
FROM THE COMMITTEE. SCENE NOW
AND WE HAVE A MOTION. AT MAY
MOTION AND THIS WEEK MISTER CAR
MADE A MOTION WE HAVE AS MUCH IN
A SECOND OKAY. GIVE MOTION
SECOND CENTERS HERE MAKE CLOSE-
THANK YOU SO MUCH SO I WILL
ADDRESS JUST A FEW OF THE
COMMENTS SO I THINK OUR-
TECHNICAL EXPERT FROM THE
ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE. DID
GIVE THE DISTINCTION ABOUT HOW
THIS WAS VERY CAREFULLY CRAFTED.
TO NOT RUN AFOUL OF THE FEDERAL
COMMUNICATIONS RULES OR THE-
CONSTITUTIONAL FREE SPEECH
ISSUES. AND YOU KNOW OUR- I
PERSONALLY BELIEVE ULTIMATELY WE
SHOULD HAVE THE TYPE OF
REGULATIONS THAT THE E. U. HAS.
AND YOU HAVE MUCH LESS OF THESE
PROBLEMS IN THE E. U. DUE TO THE
REGULATIONS THAT THEY HAVE
ADOPTED. BUT THOSE. OUT WE COULD
NOT REPEAT THOSE. M. GIVEN THE
STATE OF GIVEN THE FEDERAL RULES
SO THIS BILL DOES NOT DO THAT
THOUGH I WOULD VERY MUCH BE IN
FAVOR OF IT. SO THIS BILL
INSTEAD IS CRAFTED VERY
CAREFULLY TO GIVE OUR- SOCIAL
MEDIA PLATFORMS A SAFE HARBOR
THAT IF THEY'D THEMSELVES AUDIT
THEIR OWN FEATURES AND- CAN
DOCUMENT THAT IT IF A- CASES
BROUGHT AGAINST THEM THEY CAN
DOCUMENT THAT THEY'VE ADDRESSED
SOMETHING LIKE. THIS FACT WHERE
RESEARCHERS HAVE POSING AS-
ADOLESCENT GIRLS GONE ON TO
SOCIAL MEDIA DONE NO SEARCH
RELATED TO FOOD OR EATING OR IF
ANY OF THOSE THINGS AND WITHIN
THIRTY NINE SECONDS AND THEN
EVERY THIRTY NINE SECONDS THERE
AFTER IF NOT MORE FREQUENTLY.
WERE DIRECTED TO SITES PROMOTING
EITHER AT BINGEING PURGING-
ANOREXIA. SO THERE'S A CLEAR-
DOCUMENTATION OF WHERE THE USER
THEMSELVES DOES NOT HAVE TO DO
ANY SEARCH WHATSOEVER. IN TERMS
OF ANY OF THIS CONTENT AND YET A
DESIGN FEATURE WILL DIRECT THEM
TOWARD CERTAIN AT CERTAIN- AGAIN
THAT IT'S A FUTURE PROBLEM
VERSUS A CONTENT PROBLEM. SO
AGAIN THE BILL IS. DESIGNED VERY
CAREFULLY IT IS NOT ALLOW FOR IN
IN. TO TAKE ACTION TO HOLD THEM
RESPONSIBLE EVEN THOUGH WE SEE
NOW SCHOOL DISTRICTS UP AND DOWN
THE STATE'S DOING. BRINGING
LAWSUITS AROUND THESE PLATFORMS
WHAT THIS DOES IS ONLY ALLOW A
PUBLIC PROSECUTOR MEANING A DA
OR ATTORNEY GENERAL CHIU IF THEY
CAN DOCUMENT THAT THE COMPANY
HAS NOT ADDRESSED AN ISSUE THAT
THEY IDENTIFIED IN AN AUDIT.
THEN THEY CAN BRING FORWARD A
CASE HOWEVER THE SOCIAL MEDIA
ENTITY IS COMPLETELY FREE OF ANY
LIABILITY IF THEY SHOW WHAT THEY
HAVE DONE TO ADDRESS THIS IN
THESE AUDITS SO I THINK IT'S A
VERY CAREFULLY CRAFTED. AND
AGAIN DOESN'T EVEN GO AS FAR AS
I THINK WE SHOULD BUT IT DOES
RESPECT TO THE VARIOUS LAWS THAT
ARE IN PLACE BOTH FEDERALLY AND
OTHERWISE AND WITH THAT I ASK
YOUR ABOUT. THANK YOU THAT
MOTION WITH MOTION SECOND
MOTIONS TO PASS- TO PUT THE
PRIVACY COMMITTEE ASKED THE
COURT TO PLEASE CALL THE ROLL
MAIENSCHEIN HI MAIENSCHEIN I. S.
SALIH. SALIH AYE CONNELLY.
CONNELLY I DIXON. HANG HANEY I
KALRA. KALRA IP CZECHO. HAPPEN
HAPPEN I REYES. REYES I'D LI. LI
I SANCHEZ. YOUR BILL IS OUT
THANK YOU WATER FINAL BILL MY
UNDERSTANDING IS CENTER REVEALS
ASKED A SIMILAR POP INTO PRESENT
FOR HER-
OKAY. GOOD MORNING THANK YOU
CHAIRED MEMBERS- AND TO BE CLEAR
YOU THAT YOU ACCEPT THAT
AMENDMENTS ON BEHALF CENTER
RUBIO. YES THANK YOU. I DO
INDEED THAT'S PART OF MY NOTES.
ALL RIGHT SIR THANK YOU FOR
LETTING ME- PRESENT ON BEHALF OF
SENATOR RUBIO- LET ME GIVE IT
BEGIN BY THINKING THAT YOU'RE IN
THE SAP FOR THE FEEDBACK ON THE
BILL IN THE AMENDMENTS TO
IMPROVE THE BILL THE CAME FROM
THOSE CONVERSATIONS- I AM PROUD
TO PRESENT SB EIGHT FOUR EIGHT A
BILL THAT WILL BRING COMFORT TO
PEOPLE WHO EXPERIENCE ONE OF THE
WORST TRAUMAS IMAGINABLE. IT
REPRODUCTIVE LOSS. EVERY YEAR IN
THE UNITED STATES NEARLY A
MILLION FAMILIES EXPERIENCED THE
HEARTBREAK OF LOSING A PREGNANCY
BECAUSE OF MISCARRIAGE OR
STILLBIRTH AND MANY OTHER
FAMILIES EXPERIENCE TRAUMA FROM
AN ADOPTION AGREEMENT FALLING
APART OR AN UNSUCCESSFUL IVF
TREATMENT ALL IN THE HOPES OF
BECOMING A FAMILY AND HAVING
CHILDREN SB EIGHT FOUR EIGHT
WILL ENSURE THE FAMILIES
EXPERIENCING REPRODUCTIVE LOSS.
HAVE THE TIME THEY NEED TO
PROCESS THEIR GRIEF AND HE'LL BY
PROVIDING THEM UP TO FIVE DAYS
OF UNPAID JOB PROTECTED LEAVE
AFTER SUCH A LOSS. SB EIGHT FOUR
EIGHT TAKES A THOUGHTFUL
BALANCED APPROACH OF PROVIDING
THIS LEAVE AND RECENT AMENDMENTS
ADDRESS SEVERAL CAL CHAMBERS
CONCERNS INCLUDING CAPPING HOW
MUCH TIME OFF CAN BE TAKEN IN- I
AM COMMITTED TO CONTINUING
CONVERSATIONS WITH CALTRAIN
BURKE. AND SO SENATOR RUBIO. AND
AND TO ADDRESS THEIR CONCERNS SO
THAT WE GET THE BILL TO A PLACE
WHERE THERE'S NO OPPOSITION I
MUST CONFESS I DIDN'T READ THIS.
BEFORE COMING TO PRESENTED BUT
I'VE HAD PERSONAL EXPERIENCES
WITH ME WHICH THESE CAN. GAVIN
TYPES OF SITUATIONS SO I'M
REALLY HONORED TO BE ABLE 2%
SPAREBANKEN CHECKED AND I STRUCK
. WE'VE WE HAVE A MOTION FOR
MISTER. SECOND FROM IS TO CHECK
OUT FIRST WITNESS PLEASE. S.
EDGE AND CHINA MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE MY NAME IS JAN-
GREENLEE. LIMIT DELEGATE FOR ONE
OF THE CO SPONSORING
ORGANIZATIONS JUNIOR LEAGUE
HOUSE BACK I'M HERE TODAY TO
READ TESTIMONY ON BEHALF OF-
BARTOLOME. A BEHAVIORAL SERVICES
PROFESSIONAL LONG BEACH WHO
WRITES DISTINGUISHED CHAIRMAN
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE THANK
YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO VOICE MY
SUPPORT OF SENATE BILL EIGHT
FORTY EIGHT. OVER THE COURSE OF
SEVERAL MONTHS AND TWENTY
EIGHTEEN MY PARTNER AND I
EXPERIENCE MULTIPLE UNSUCCESSFUL
ATTEMPTS WITH FERTILITY
TREATMENTS. ARE FERTILITY
TREATMENT TEAM WAS AMAZING OUR
DOCTOR WAS AT THE COLON FAIR
THEY DID EVERYTHING RIGHT THEY
WALKED US THROUGH THE STEPS OF
WHAT TO EXPECT. THEY REQUIRED AN
INITIAL ASSESSMENT THROUGH A
LICENSED THERAPIST TO ENSURE
THAT WE WERE DOING THIS FOR THE
RIGHT REASONS. AND THAT WE
UNDERSTOOD THE PERCENTAGES OF
SUCCESS BASED ON MY OWN PERSONAL
FACTORS FOR THESE PROCEDURES. I
HE STATED UP FRONT THAT HE WOULD
NOT RECOMMEND ANY MORE THAN
FORTY FIVE TREATMENTS BEFORE
HAVING TO MAKE A DECISION. A
MORE INVASIVE AND COSTLY
OPTIONS- TO DECIDE THAT
CONCEPTION WAS JUST NOT GOING TO
BE IN THE CARDS FOR US. EVEN
WITHOUT SUPPORT I WAS TAKEN
COMPLETELY BY SURPRISE WITH HOW
DEVASTATING EACH AND EVERYONE OF
THESE ATTEMPTS FELT. THE AFTER
EFFECTS OF ONE FAILED ATTEMPT
BLOOD INTO THE NEXT ONE ROUNDS
OF HORMONE SHOTS SOME FOLLOW UP
ASSESSMENTS. HAPPEN IN SHORT
SUCCESSION TO TRACK PROGRESS AND
BY ABILITY. OF THAT MONTHLY AYE
YOO AYE PROCEDURE DISTRESS AND
GRIEF OF LOSS WAS CUMULATIVE
WITH EACH FAILED ATTEMPT IT WAS
SURREAL TO FEEL LIKE YOUR
MORNING SOMETHING OR SOMEONE WHO
NEVER WAS. IT'S EVEN WEIRDER
WHEN YOU WORK IN AN INDUSTRY
POPULATED MOSTLY BY WOMEN. AND
SEEING FRIENDS AND CO WORKERS
HAVING THEIR OWN FERTILITY
SUCCESSES. I STRUGGLE TO NOT
FEEL RESENTFUL OF THOSE AROUND
ME. ONCE I DECIDED TO GIVE UP ON
MY FERTILITY JOURNEY IT TOOK
OVER TWO FULL YEARS TO FEEL LIKE
MYSELF AGAIN. HAPPY HAVE BEEN
AVAILABLE TO ME PERHAPS THE TIME
SPENT HEALING FROM THESE
REPRODUCTIVE LOSSES WHAT
HAPPENED LAST. ONLY NOW IN
HINDSIGHT DO I REALIZE THE TIME
NEEDED TO FULLY PROCESS AND GIVE
MY EACH LOST THE RESPECT IT
DESERVES. I ASKED THE COMMITTEE
PLEASE CONSIDER PASSING SB.
EIGHT FORTY EIGHT RESPECTFULLY
ASK YOUR ABOUT THANK YOU THANK
YOU NEXT WITH. THANK YOU. THE
STIGMAS CHAIRMAN MAIENSCHEIN AND
MEMBERS OF COMMITTEE MY NAME IS
NANCY NO DIAL. CAL SPEC SENIOR
DELEGATE FOR THE JUNIOR LEAGUE
OF SACRAMENTO. AND TODAY I'LL BE
AMPLIFYING THE VOICE OF AN
EVERYDAY CALIFORNIAN IN SUPPORT
OF SB EIGHT FOUR EIGHT. WHO WAS
NOT ABLE TO ATTEND TODAY'S
HEARING. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF
THE COMMITTEE I THANK YOU FOR
YOUR TIME AND EARNEST
CONSIDERATION. SB EIGHT FOUR
EIGHT. MY NAME IS DR LOUISE
LAWRENCE AND I AM THE VICE CHAIR
OF TRANSLATIONAL RESEARCH AND
THE DIRECTOR OF PERINATAL
RESEARCH FOR THE UC SAN DIEGO
DEPARTMENT OF OBSTETRICS
GYNECOLOGY. AND REPRODUCTIVE
SCIENCES. FROM MY PERSPECTIVE AS
A MENTAL I'M SORRY MATERNAL
FETAL MEDICINE OR HIGH RISK
OBSTETRICS DR. I CAN SAY THAT
FOR MANY FAMILIES THE LOSS OF A
BABY IN THE PRENATAL PERIOD CAN
BE JUST AS DEVASTATING AS A LOSS
OF A CHILD AFTER BIRTH. ALTHOUGH
IN NEARLY ALL CASES THESE EVENTS
ARE NOBODY'S FAULT FAMILIES
EXPERIENCE FEELINGS OF GRIEF AND
GUILT. THEY NEED TIME TO PROCESS
NOT ONLY THE EVENT ITSELF BUT
ALSO COME TO GRIPS WITH THE FACT
THAT TERRIBLE THINGS HAPPEN TO
WONDERFUL PEOPLE. FURTHER MANY
FAMILIES ARE MAKING DECISIONS
ABOUT WHETHER TO HAVE FOLLOW UP
TESTING SUCH AS AN AUTOPSY OR
GENETIC TESTING THAT MAY GIVE
THEM INFORMATION ABOUT POTENTIAL
RISKS FOR FUTURE PREGNANCIES.
AND IT TAKES TIME TO UNDERSTAND
THESE OPTIONS MAKE DECISIONS AND
TO SORT THROUGH THE LOGISTICS OF
OBTAINING THESE TESTS. OVERALL I
THINK THAT FIVE DAYS OF TIME TO
DEAL WITH SUCH LOSSES IS IF
ANYTHING EXCESSIVELY SHORT. AND
HOPE THAT WE CAN DO AT LEAST
THIS MUCH FOR THESE FAMILIES.
MISTER CHAIRMAN I SINCERELY
APPRECIATE YOUR ATTENTIVENESS
TODAY AND KINDLY ASK FOR YOUR
AYE VOTE ON THIS IMPORTANT BILL
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT. MISTER
MEMBERS MERKEL YOSHI HARM BEHALF
OF THE CALIFORNIA PLUMMET
LAWYERS ASSOCIATION ILLEGALLY AT
WORK IN SUPPORT. HI KAREN STOUT
ON BEHALF OF NARAL PRO CHOICE
CALIFORNIA AS WELL AS THE
CALIFORNIA NURSES ASSOCIATION IN
SUPPORT THANK YOU. MISTER
CHAIRMAN WAS COURTNEY JOHNSON ON
BEHALF CALIFORNIA CHAMBER OF
COMMERCE WE ARE AND THAT OPPOSE
UNLESS AMENDED CONTINUING TO
WORK WITH THE SENATOR I'M ON
THAT DAY CAP IN THE BILL AND
APPRECIATE THE CONTINUED WORK OF
THE SENATOR. HER IN COLLEAGUES
AND- THE STAFF THANK YOU. THANK
YOU ANY OTHER WAY SEE NO OTHER
WITNESSES AND SUPPORT WITNESSES
IN OPPOSITION. SCENE NINE ANY
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM
COMMITTEE. SCENE NINE WE DO HAVE
MOTION A SECOND MISS PAP IN YOU
MAY CLOSE. THIS IS THE RIGHT
THING TO DO RESPECTFULLY
QUESTION I VOTE THANK YOU THE
MOTION IS TO PASS TO THE
APPROPRIATIONS AS AMENITY
PREPARATIONS COMMITTEE ASKED HER
TO PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
MAIENSCHEIN HI MAIENSCHEIN I A
SALIH. CONNOLLY CONNELLY I DIXON
. SIX NOT VOTING HANEY. AMY I
KALRA KALRA IP CZECHO FIVE
CZECHO AYE PABON. I HI REYES.
REYES LEE AYE SANCHEZ. YOUR BILL
IS OUT THANK YOU. NOW WE WILL DO
ADD ONS. IT CONSENT WE WILL
START. WITH THE CONSENT AGENDA
ASK THE CLERK TO PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL. DIXON ON CONSENT. YES
DIXON III KALRA. KALRA. LEET LEE
I. WE'LL START THEN WITH ITEM
NUMBER ONE CONTINUE WITH ITEM
NUMBER ONE- ASK THE COURT TO
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL DIXON. BUT
ITEM NUMBER ONE YES DIXON I
KALRA. KALRA I'D HAPPEN. HAPPEN
I LEE. LEAI ITEM NUMBER TWO SB
THREE SEVENTY TWO MANAGER OF OUR
- DIXON. NO DIXON NO HAPPEN.
HAPPEN I LEE. LEAI WE WILL MOVE
I AM THREE SB THREE EIGHTY FIVE
ASK THE COURT TO LIFT THE CALL
MAIENSCHEIN HI MAIENSCHEIN I.
DIXON NO DIXON NO KALRA. KALRA
I'D HAPPEN HAPPEN I LEE. LEAI
THE BILL IS OUT WITH MOVE TO
AMARO FOR SB FOUR SEVENTY EIGHT
DODD ASKED THE COURT TO LIFT THE
CALL MAIENSCHEIN HI MAIENSCHEIN
I. DIXON DIXON NO KALRA. KALRA I
HAPPEN HAPPEN IDLY. THE I. F. L.
IS OUT ITEM NUMBER FIVE SB SIX
FORTY TWO CORTES THE ESCORT CALL
THE ROLL DIXON OPPOSED LOW DIXON
NO KALRA. KALRA I'VE HAPPEN.
APPAN IDLY LI I. BECAUSE OUR
ITEM NUMBER SO S. SIX FORTY FOUR
CæA ASSET TO CALL THE ROLL
DICK'S NO THE NO KALRA. CALMER I
PASS. HAPPEN I'D LI. LI I ITEM
SEVEN SB SIX SIX SIX MAN ASOK TO
CALL ROLL DIXON YES DIXON I CALL
. KALRA I HAPPEN. HAPPEN I LEE
LI I REMEMBER EIGHT SB SIX
EIGHTY SKINNER ASKED THE COURT
TO CALL THE ROLL. HAVE EVERYBODY
THAT WE HAVE EVERYONE ON. THEM
EIGHT OKAY ITEM NUMBER NINE S.
B. SIX EIGHTY THREE GLAZER ASKED
A COURT CALL THE ROLL KALRA
RIGHT KALRA I LI LI ACT ITEM TEN
SB SIX NINETY SIX PORTANTINO
ESCORT CALL THE ROLL. LI LI I AM
ELEVEN SB SEVEN THIRTY ONE
ASHLEY ASKED THE CLERK TO PLEASE
LET THE CALL MAIENSCHEIN HI
MAIENSCHEIN I. DIXON THOUGH
DIXON NO KALRA. KALRA AYE HAPPEN
HAPPEN IDLY LI I. YEAH OUT OF AN
ITEM TWELVE S. B. A FORTY RUBIO
IS OUT. BY THE FOR THE LEVIN
ELEVEN AS HIS SEVEN THIRTY ONE
ASHBY IS OUT AND THEN AT NIGHT
OF TWELVE SB EIGHT IS ALSO OUT
SO WITH THAT TODAY'S. THANK YOU
MISTER IF YOU'RE TENANTS AT AND
TODAY'S MINIATURES JUDICIARY
COMMITTEE IS ADJOURNED. OKAY.