ACTION COMMITTEE WE ARE GOING TO
GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED TODAY
AND TRY TO ESTABLISH A QUORUM
AND THEN WE'LL HOPEFULLY
SENATORS WILL BE JOINING US
SHORTLY TO EFFECTIVELY MANAGE
OUR TIME TODAY WILL BE LIMITED
TESTIMONY TO TWO WITNESSES IN
FOR SUPPORT AND TWO WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION ON EACH BELT EACH
WITNESS WILL BE ABOUT TWO
MINUTES TO PRESENT THEIR
TESTIMONY. AFTER THE SUPPORT
WITNESSES CONCLUDE THEIR
TESTIMONY THE COMMITTEE WILL
CALL UP ADDITIONAL SUPPORTERS NO
FURTHER TESTIMONY WILL BE
PERMITTED ADDITIONAL SUPPORT
ISRAELI STATE THEIR NAME
AFFILIATION AND POSITION FOR THE
RECORD THE SAME PROCESS WILL BE
FOLLOWED AFTER THE OPPOSITION
WITNESSES CONCLUDE THEIR
TESTIMONY AT THAT TIME
ADDITIONAL OPPOSITION WILL BE
CALLED THEY MAY ONLY STATE THEIR
NAME AFFILIATION AND POSITION
FOR THE RECORD FOR THIS HEARING
AND UNTIL FURTHER NEWS NOTICE
THE COMMITTEE WILL RETURNING TO
IN PERSON TESTIMONY ONLY AS
REFLECTED IN THE FINAL NOTICE
AND I'D LIKE TO NOTE THAT WE
WILL BE ACCEPTING WRITTEN
TESTIMONY THROUGH THE POSITION
LETTER PORTAL ON THE COMMITTEE'S
WEBSITE. A COUPLE OF ITEMS TO
ANNOUNCES WE START I DON'T SEE
HERE BUT I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE
THAT ASSEMBLY MEMBER HEART WILL
BE REPLACING ASSEMBLY MEMBER
WILSON TODAY SO WE THANK HIM
FOR. JOINING US. WE HAVE SEVEN
BILLS ON THE AGENDA TODAY TWO OF
WHICH HAVE BEEN APPROVED FOR
CONSENT. S. B. TWO SEVEN ONE
DODD. THE MOTION IS TO PASS TO
THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE. SB TWO.
SIX FOUR ONE HOP THE MOTION IS
TO PASS. AND I WILL ENTERTAIN A
MOTION ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
EXCUSE ME SB FOUR SIX TWO ONE
HOBBY. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION
FOR THE CONSENT OWNERS SOON AS
WE ESTABLISH CORE BUT LET'S GO
AHEAD SINCE WE CAN DO THAT. AND
ESTABLISH A QUORUM. MADAM
SECRETARY PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
GABRIEL YEAH GABRIEL HERE
PATTERSON. PATTERSON HERE
BACKING HIM. OKAY HAND HERE
BENNETT. BENNETT HERE SALIH.
SALIH HERE. FONG HEART. IRWIN
LOW INFO. ON FILE HERE HAPPEN.
I'VE BEEN HERE WICKS HERE WICKS
HERE. WONDERFUL WE HAVE A CORNER
AT THIS POINT I WOULD BE HAPPY
TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THE
CONSENT CALENDAR. WE HAVE A
MOTION FROM ASSEMBLY MEMBER WAX
I SECOND FROM ASSEMBLY MEMBER OF
OUR QUE HAN MADAM SECRETARY
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. THE MOTION
IS TO PASS TO THE CONSENT
CALENDAR GABRIEL. HI GABRIEL AYE
PATTERSON. AYE PATTERSON I AM
MARKING. OCCASION HI BENNETT.
BENNETT I SALIH. SALIH IPHONE.
FONG I HEART. IRWIN LOWENTHAL.
LOCAL I HAPPEN. HAPPEN ALL RIGHT
WICKS. WICKS I. CONSENT CALENDAR
HAS. NINE VOTES SHOW WE WILL
LEAVE THE ROLE OPEN FOR ABSENT
MEMBERS TO ADD ON A C. WE HAVE
ASSEMBLY MEMBER WHEN YOU'RE
PERHAPS SHE WANTS TO VOTE ON THE
CONSENT CALENDAR. RESIDENTS TO
PASS OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
ERMINI IRWIN I. GREAT DO YOU CAN
SECOND OR HAS TEN VOTES WILL
LEAVE THE ROLE OPEN FOR ABSENT
MEMBERS AND AT THIS POINT WE ARE
WAITING ON SENATOR SO SOON AS
CENTERS TRYING US WE CAN BEGIN
OUR BUSINESS.
YEAH. ALL RIGHT. YEAH. CALL.
GROSS TONIGHT.
YOU HAVE. BACK EXPECT. THIS IS
WHERE TO BE ABOUT THE SCRIPT HAS
. THERE'S GOING TO BE ISSUE FOR
I'VE EVER READ. IF THEY WERE IN
THE.
OKAY. I WOULD. WHAT WAS THE
GENTLEMAN.
JUST.
SENATE YEAH.
WE ARE GOING TO OPEN THE ROLE
FOR ASSEMBLY MEMBER HARD TO ADD
ON TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR AND I
WANNA SEE SOME OF OUR HEART
WELCOME TO THE ASSEMBLY PRIVACY
AND CONSUMER PROTECTION
COMMITTEE. WE ARE WE ARE WE GAVE
YOU A WELCOME EVEN BEFORE YOU
ARRIVE OR ESPECIALLY TO SOME OF
THE LEADING TO SEAL. MAYBE MADAM
SECRETARY PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
AND M. FONG ONLY ATTENDANCE FONG
. OKAY NO WE DON'T CAN OR INTENT
I THANK IT COMES SORRY FOR CARD
WE'RE GONNA OPEN THE ROLE ON THE
CONSENT CALENDAR PLEASE AND. I
PRESUME PART I LEVEL.
YEAH.
HERE YEAH WHAT.
ALL RIGHT WITH THE GENEROUS
PERMISSION OF SENATOR DODD WE
HAVE AN EXCELLENT PITCHER
ASSEMBLY MEMBER THANK YOU FOR
BEING HERE SO WE'RE GONNA MOVE
TO FILE ITEM NUMBER TWO SB TWO
NINE SIX JOHN ASSEMBLY MEMBER
YOU MAY PRESENT WHEN YOU ARE
READY. MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS TO
THEIR PRESENTING SB TWO NINETY
SIX PERTAINING TO IN VEHICLE
CAMERAS ON BEHALF OF MR DIED
INCREASINGLY IN SOCIETY WE FIND
OURSELVES BEING RECORDED WITH NO
IDEA HOW THE IMAGES ARE BEING
USED SB TWO NINETY SIX REQUIRES
THAT A CONSUMERS INFORMED IN
VEHICLE CAMERAS AND WHAT RIGHTS
THEY HAVE TO CONTROL CONTROL
WITH THE CAMERAS RECORD WHEN
PURCHASING A NEW VEHICLE WELL
THEY'RE ESSENTIAL TRAFFIC SAFETY
BENEFITS DRIVER MONITORING
IMPAIRED OR DISTRACTED DRIVING
BEHAVIOR THERE'S ALSO INCREASING
CONCERN THAT SUCH CAMERAS COULD
BE EXPLOITED BY DATA BROKERS AND
OTHER THIRD PARTIES WHO WOULD
MANIPULATE AND SELL THE IMAGES.
SB TWO NINETY SIX A PLACE
RESTRICTIONS ON THE RETENTION
AND TRANSFER VIDEO RECORDINGS
WHILE STILL PERMITTING IMPORTANT
DRIVER SAFETY INFORMATION BE
ANALYZED AND USED FOR TRAFFIC
SAFETY PURPOSES. IT WOULD MAKE
CALIFORNIA THE FIRST STATE IN
THE NATION TO GIVE CONSUMERS
MEANINGFUL CONTROL OVER THESE
TYPES OF IN VEHICLE CAMERAS. THE
REASON AMENDMENTS ADDRESS
CONCERNS FROM THE ALLIANCE FOR
AUTOMATED INNOVATION NEW CAR
DEALERS IN CONSUMER ATTORNEYS OF
CALIFORNIA BY CREATING A MORE
EFFECTIVE PROCESS IN NOTIFYING
BUYERS IN VEHICLE CAMERAS AND
PROVIDING CRITERIA FOR THE
ALLOWABLE USES A CAMERA FOR
SAFETY PURPOSES- WITH ME TODAY
IS A WITNESS FROM THE CONSUMER
FEDERATION OF CALIFORNIA. IN
SUPPORT OF THE- GOOD AFTERNOON
MR CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS ROBERT
TERRELL EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF
THE CONSUMER FEDERATION
CALIFORNIA WHERE THE SPONSOR OF
THIS MEASURE- FIRST I LIKE TO
THINK THE PINCH HITTER- FOR
SERETIDE- AND I THINK THE CHAIR
AND ALSO PARTICULARLY LIKE TO
POINT OUT THAT ARE. IN ALL THE
BILLS THAT WE HAVE BEFORE THIS
COMMITTEE I FIND THE ANALYSES
WRITTEN BY THE COMMITTEE STAFF
TO BE EXEMPLARY. AND SO CHAIR
THAT'S A REFLECTION ON YOU AND
ON THE STAFF HERE- BECAUSE WE
KNOW THAT THERE'S ALL KINDS OF
DIFFERENT QUALITIES OF ANALYSES
OUT THERE AND THESE ONES ARE
VERY HIGH SELF. AS A FORMER
STAFFER I FEEL ALMOST SEMI
OBLIGATED TO POINT THAT OUT SO
OUT WITH THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING
ON THIS BILL FOR THREE YEARS THE
CHAIR IS AWARE OF IT IT WAS A
WHITE HEALTHCARE BILL IN THE
PREVIOUS SESSION. AND WE THINK
THEY'RE ALMOST THERE OF THE
SHORT VERSION IS THAT- YOU WANNA
GIVE CONSUMERS A MEANINGFUL
CHOICE HERE. FULLER USED TO
CAMERAS THAT POINT OUTSIDE THE
VEHICLE CRASH AVOIDANCE THINGS
LIKE THAT. BUT NOW THEY'RE MORE
AND MORE COMMON TO THE POINT
INSIDE THE VEHICLE IT STARTED
OUT AT HIGHER IN VEHICLES IT'S
NOW MATRICULATING ITS WAY DOWN.
WE THINK BASED ON THE TRADE
INDUSTRY PUBLICATIONS AND DATA
THAT WE'VE SEEN THAT. IN A
NUMBER OF YEARS IT'S GOING TO BE
QUITE COMMONPLACE FOR ALL BUT
THE LOWEST PRICED VEHICLES.
THEREFORE WE THINK THAT'S A
MEANINGFUL- CHOICE ON THE PART
OF THE CONSUMER- TO HAVE SOME
CONTROL OVER THIS. AND SOME
CONSUMERS IN FAIRNESS THEY SEEK
OUT. OF SOMETHING LIKE THIS
BECAUSE THEY'RE LOOKING AT THEIR
EYEBALLS DRAFT SO THEY DON'T YOU
KNOW DRIFT INTO ANOTHER LANE OR
GET AN ACCIDENT. WE JUST THINK
THIS IS A REALLY COMMONSENSE
APPROACH WE'VE WORKED VERY HARD
WITH ALL THE OPPONENTS- THE NEW
CAR DEALERS ARE OFF. I THINK THE
YOU'LL PRESUMABLY HERE FROM THE
AUTUMN ANY FRACTURES IF THEY'RE
NOT OFF I THINK THEY'RE PRETTY
DARN CLOSE TO BEING OFF WE'VE
HAD PRODUCTIVE CONVERSATIONS THE
NEGOTIATIONS. ALONG WITH CENTER
DRIVE IN HIS TEAM. SO YOU VITAL
LINK THE AFTERNOON A BUDGET
VOTES ALL JUST ASK FOR AN AYE
VOTE AND BE HAPPY TO ANSWER
QUESTIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
TO HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL WITNESSES
IN THE HEARING ROOM IN SUPPORT
OF THE BILL. HI TREASURERS
AMERICA BEHALF OF OAKLAND
PRIVACY IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL.
OKAY GREAT DO WE HAVE ANYONE IN
THE HEARING ROOM IN OPPOSITION
TO THE BILL. WE HAVE A MOTION
FROM ASSEMBLYMEMBER WICKS AND
THE SECOND FROM ASSEMBLYMEMBERS
HAPPENED. YES SIR. GOOD
AFTERNOON MR CHAIRMAN OF THE
COMMITTEE JOHN MOFFETT ON BEHALF
OF THE ALLIANCE FOR AUTOMOTIVE
INNOVATION- JUST REFLECTING THAT
THE COMMENTS THAT MR CORRAL MADE
WE APPRECIATE WORKING WITH THE
AUTHOR AND SPONSORS ON THE BILL-
AND ACTUALLY GOT AN UPDATE WHILE
WE WERE IN THIS COMMITTEE WORK.
THAT LASTED A LANGUAGE YOU SENT
US SO ONCE THAT GOES IN THE BILL
WE ARE PREPARED TO REMOVE OUR
OPPOSITION. WONDERFUL SOUNDS
LIKE A STORY WITH A HAPPY ENDING
ANYONE ELSE IN OPPOSITION. THANK
YOU MISTER CHAIRMAN NOT BEYOND
ME WITH THE CALIFORNIA CHAMBER
OF COMMERCE ALIGNER COMMENTS
WITH THOSE OF OUR COLLEAGUE
THANK YOU. JAMIE HAVE WITH THE
CIVIL JUSTICE ASSOCIATION OF
CALIFORNIA ALSO LEARNING ARE
COMING OUT OF YOUR LIFE THANK
YOU. THE ANY TARGET WOULD
TECHNICALLY ALSO ON YOUR
COMMENTS THEIR COLLEAGUES THANK
YOU. ALL RIGHT SEE NOW WE'VE
ACTUALLY COMMITTEE QUESTIONS
COMMENTS- THANK YOU FOR THAT
SENATOR. FOR THE PRESENTATION.
FOR COVERING FOR SENATOR OF
COURSE. BUT JUST WANNA SAY I
APPRECIATE WORKING ON THIS BILL
AND- THE CONCERNS ADDRESSED ON
THEM I HAVEN'T SEEN THE
AMENDMENTS. BECAUSE OF THEM IN A
WAY OFF TODAY BUT- HOPEFULLY-
ONCE THEIR BRAND EXPORT THIS ON
THE FLOOR THANKS. ALL RIGHT WELL
I WILL JUST SAY- FIRST OF ALL TO
THE- TO THE SPONSOR THANK YOU
FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK- AS YOU
MENTIONED THIS COMMITTEE HAS
WORKED ON THIS ISSUE FOR A WHILE
NOW WE PUT PUT AT A SIMILAR BILL
THROUGH THE COMMITTEE LAST YEAR.
I THINK IT'S IN A CRITICALLY
IMPORTANT ISSUE AND I APPRECIATE
THE THOUGHTFUL WAY THAT YOU ARE
THE AUTHOR OF A TRUSTED TO WORK
WITH OPPOSITION- TO PROTECT TO
PROTECT FOLKS PRIVACY RIGHTS AND
ALSO TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE
TECHNOLOGY THAT CAN KEEP PEOPLE
SAFE SO I APPRECIATE ALL THOSE
THOSE CANDID CONVERSATIONS GLAD
TO SEE THAT. THINGS HAVE LANDED
IN A NICE SPOT- AND I GUESS ALSO
JUST TAKE A MOMENT OF PERSONAL
PRIVILEGE SINCE YOU MENTIONED
THE- COMMITTEE ANALYSIS.
ACTUALLY THE SECOND PERSON TODAY
WE HAD ANOTHER MEMBER THE
AUDIENCE COME UP AND SAY THIRTY
FOUR YEARS OF WORK IN THE
LEGISLATURE. THEY HAVE NOT SEEN
ANALYSIS AS FINE AS THOSE
PRODUCED BY THESE CONSULTANTS I
DID JUST WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT.
THERE'S NOTHING NEW WITH ME- BUT
RECOGNIZE THE HARD WORK OF OUR
CONSULTANT FOR THEIR EXCELLENT
ANALYSIS- AND WITH THAT AS A
MEMBER WOULD INVITE YOU TO
CLOSE. MISTER DODD RESPECTFULLY
REQUEST YOUR HAVE. ALL RIGHT
WITH THAT HAPPY TO SUPPORT THE
BILL THE- MOTION IS. DUE PASSED
TO JUDICIARY COMMITTEE. MADAM
SECRETARY PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
AND NUMBER TWO SB TWO NINETY SIX
BY SOME REPLACE SENATOR DOT.
GABRIEL HI GABRIEL HI PATTERSON.
PATTERSON NOT VOTING BARRICADE
HIM. AYE ARCADIA AYE BENNETT.
BENNETT HIS SALIH. SALIH HI FONG
. NOT FONG NOT VOTING HEART.
HEART I IRWIN. IRWIN HI
LOWENTHAL. LOWENTHAL HI PABON.
PAPPENHEIM WICKES. WICKS. THE
BILL HAS NINE VOTES OUT GREAT IF
SENATOR ROBERTS WITNESSES ARE
HERE LINDA WAY. AND JOSE CðC S.
GREAT WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO THE
OTHER DODD BILL I WILL WITH
MEDIUM. OKAY SO WE ARE GOING TO
MOVE TO FILE ITEM NUMBER FIVE SB
FIVE NINE FIVE ROTH. WE HAVE A
MOTION FOR MR FONG AND A SECOND
FOR MISTER LONG TOP. SOUNDS GOOD
TO ME. SENATOR PLEASE THANK YOU
MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS I'M HERE
PRESIDING SB FIVE NINETY FIVE ON
BEHALF OF SENATOR ROB I WANT TO
THANK THE CHAIR ON SENATOR OFF
BEHALF ANY THE COMMITTEE FOR
WORKING DILIGENTLY WITH HIS
OFFICE AND OF THE CO SPONSORS ON
THIS MEASURE. TODAY ON BEHALF OF
THE CENTRE UP TO BE ACCEPTING
THE COMMITTEES PROPOSED
AMENDMENTS AS OUTLINED IN THE
COMMITTEE ANALYSIS WHICH
INCLUDED ADDITIONAL PRIVACY
PROTECTIONS THAT SAFEGUARD THE
PRIVACY RIGHTS OF CONSUMERS SB
FIVE NINETY FIVE MAKES
CLARIFYING CHANGES TO EXISTING
STATUTE WHICH REQUIRES COVER
CALIFORNIA TO GAUGE AND DIRECT
OUR REGION CALIFORNIANS WHO HAVE
LOST THEIR EMPLOYMENT AND
THEREFORE NEED HEALTH COVERAGE.
THESE CHANGES WILL ALLOW COVERED
CALIFORNIA TO SHOW THE MINIMUM
AMOUNT OF DATA NECESSARY WITH
OUR CONTRACTED VENDORS WHO
DIRECT MARKETING OUR REACH ON
THE DEPARTMENT'S BEHALF ANY
INFORMATION SHARED WITH
INSURANCE AGENTS OR ROMAN
BROKERS WILL CRY THE EXPLICIT
INFORMED CONSENT OF THE
INDIVIDUAL. FURTHERMORE SB FIVE
NINE FIVE CLARIFIES ALL EXISTING
PRIVACY PROTECTIONS BOTH STATE
AND FEDERAL MUST APPLY TO ALL
ASPECTS OF INFORMATION SHARED
AND RECEIVED BY COVERED
CALIFORNIA SB FIVE NINE FIVE AS
A SIMPLE FIX THAT MAINTAINS THE
GREATER ACCESSIBILITY TO HEALTH
INSURANCE ESTABLISHED BY SB SIX
FORTY FOUR WHAT PROTECTING
CALIFORNIANS RECEIVING COLD
CALLS FROM OUTSIDE ENTITIES.
SOMETHING WE ON OUR CONSTITUENTS
DO NOT LIKE. WITH THAT I
RESPECTFULLY ASK WHEN I WOULD IN
TURN IT OVER TO. THE CO SPONSORS
ON THE BILL HAS A TOTAL TOURIST
BECAUSE YES OF HEALTH ACCESS
CALIFORNIA INLAND. AWAY WESTERN
CENTER ON LAW AND POVERTY. RIGHT
THANK YOU SENATOR. GET AFTERNOON
CHAIR AND MEMBERS TOWARD WITH
HEALTH COLOR. THE STATE WIDE
HEALTHCARE CONSUMER ADVOCACY
COALITION. I'M HERE TODAY AS A
CO SPONSOR IN SUPPORT OF SB FIVE
NINE FIVE. THIS BILL IS A
NECESSARY FOLLOW UP TO A BILL-
IT. SO BILL- THAT WE PASSED LAST
YEAR SB SIX FORTY FOUR WITH IN
OUR GOAL OF ENSURING THAT
CONSUMERS ARE AWARE OF. THEIR
HEALTHCARE OPTIONS DURING
CERTAIN LIKE CHANGES
SPECIFICALLY WHEN INDIVIDUALS
LOSE THEIR JOB AND APPLY FOR
BENEFITS FROM EDT. FOR THIS WE
HAD PARTNERED WITH COVERED
CALIFORNIA TO EXPAND. THEIR
ALREADY GREAT OUTREACH PROGRAM
TO THE TWO PEOPLE WHO APPLY FOR
BENEFITS FROM EDT. SB FIVE NINE
FIVE YEARS A FOLLOW UP TO SB SIX
FORTY FOUR. THAT WAS THE MAIN
BILL ACTUALLY AUTHORIZED THE
DATA SHARING AMONGST
DEPARTMENTS. AS A FOLLOW UP BILL
THE SB FIVE NINE FIVE INSURERS
THAT COVER CALIFORNIA IS ABLE TO
DO THEIR OUTREACH. TO THESE
INDIVIDUALS GOING THROUGH SUCH
LIFE CHANGES AND INFORM THEM OF
THEIR HEALTHCARE OPTIONS WHILE
AT THE SAME TIME ENSURING. THAT
THERE ARE STRONG PRIVACY
PROTECTIONS FOR THE INFORMATION.
THAT IS SHARED BY EDT. I DO WANT
TO ADD THE HEALTH ACCESS AND THE
CO SPONSORS. APPRECIATE THE
FEEDBACK THE COMMITTEE HAS
SHARED WITH US AND WE BELIEVE
THAT THE AMENDMENTS SUGGESTED BY
THE COMMITTEE REALLY DOES
FURTHER STRENGTHEN THE BILL. AS
A WHOLE TWO ONE PROTECT
CONSUMERS INFORMATION. AS CARD
HAS COVERED CALIFORNIA DOES
THEIR MUCH NEEDED OUTREACH TO
THESE INDIVIDUALS. I THANK YOU.
FOR YOUR TIME AND ASK FOR YOUR
SUPPORT HERE TODAY. GOOD
AFTERNOON WINDOW WITH WHAT
CENTER ALONG. PROUD CO SPONSOR
IN LIGHT OF THE SUPPORT.
RECOMMENDATIONS ABOVE SIDE I'LL
BE BRIEF AND JUST OUR- URGENT I
VOTE AND ECHO ON THAT AT
APPRECIATION FOR THE COMMITTEE
CONSULTANTS WORK ON THIS. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH OF
ANYONE ELSE IN THE ROOM IN
SUPPORT OF THE BILL. GOOD
AFTERNOON MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS
RONALD KOEMAN BASE HERE ON
BEHALF OF CALIFORNIA PAN ETHNIC
HEALTH NETWORKS THE PLAN AS A
SPONSOR IN STRONG SUPPORT THANK
YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND NOW
WE WILL TURN TO ICE YOU HAVE
CENTER ON SENATOR PLEASE JOIN US
. I DO WE HAVE ANYONE IN THE
ROOM IN OPPOSITION TO THE BILL.
NOT EXACTLY TRACY RESERVE BURKE
FROM OAKLAND PRIVACY IN LIGHT OF
THE- COMMANDMENTS FROM THE
COMMITTEE WE ARE DROPPING OUR
OPPOSITION TO THE- VERY GOOD
THANK YOU WITH THAT WE WILL
BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE
ANY QUESTIONS COMMENTS CONCERNS
. OKAY PEOPLE ARE. I NEED AND
USUALLY QUITE TODAY- I WILL
JUSTICE CENTER INVITE YOU UP IF
YOU WANTED TO- I'D ANY FINAL
THOUGHTS BUT I'LL JUST SAY WANT
TO THANK YOU I WANT TO THANK
YOUR STAFF FOR THINK THE
STAKEHOLDERS. FOR SOME VERY
PRODUCTIVE CONVERSATIONS I
THINK. GOING TO REALLY GOOD
POINT WHERE WE'RE GONNA CALL
PUSH THE VERY VERY LAUDABLE
GOALS OF THIS BILL BUT DO SO IN
A WAY WHERE WE PROTECT CONSUMER
PRIVACY- SORGEN WALK AND CHEW
GUM AT THE SAME TIME OR TO DO
SOME GOOD THINGS. AND JUST
REALLY APPRECIATE THE
CONSTRUCTIVE APPROACH AND
GRATEFUL FOR THE HARD WORK OF
THE COMMITTEE CONSULTANTS AND
ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS TO GET
THERE SO WITH THAT. HAPPY TO
RECOMMEND AN AYE VOTE HAPPY TO
SUPPORT THE BILL AND I WOULD
INVITE EITHER OF YOU TO CLOSE.
ON BEHALF OF CENTER ON WE
RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR ABOUT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH THE MOTION
IS DUE PASSED HEALTH COMMITTEE
MADAM SECRETARY PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL. ADAM NUMBER FIVE SB FIVE
NINETY FIVE BY SENATOR PROF
GABRIEL BY GABRIEL HI PATTERSON
. PATTERSON NOT VOTING BACKING
HIM HI OKAY HIM HI JANET. AND IT
I SALIH. SALIH HI FONG. FOR I.
SHAPED I IRWIN. IRWIN I LIVE IN
THE- LOWENTHAL I HAPPEN. HAPPEN
HI WHAT. WITH I. TO SAID
PATTERSON I PATTERSON. AND THE
BILL IS OUT WITH UNION ELEVEN
ARE ABOUT GRADUATIONS. OKAY
SENATOR JOHN IS NOT HEADING OVER
DESPITE THE GERMAN HE HAS ME TO.
ESSERE OKAY- OKAY SO WE ARE
GOING TO HEAD NOW TO YOU WELL
ACTUALLY DO YOU MIND I SEE THAT
WE HAVE CENTER EGGMAN HERE. YEAH
YOU HAVE WITNESSES. LET ME IN
THIS I NEED TO RUN A COMMITTEE
SO. OKAY. OKAY.
CENTERMAN ARE YOU- READY TO GO.
A BACKER. OUT WHAT I'LL LET YOU
TO WORK IT OUT. OKAY WE ARE
GOING TO MOVE TO FILE ITEM ONE
SB THREE SIX TWO BACK. I THANK
YOU A CHAIR AND COMMITTEE
MEMBERS FOR LET ME PERCENT SB
THREE SIXTY TO THE CALIFORNIA TO
LEAD ACT I WANT TO START BY
ACCEPTING THE COMMITTEE MEHMET'S
OUTLINE ANALYSIS. AND THANK YOU
YOUR STAFF WORK WITH MY ON THE
BILL THAT NOW SIS WAS EXTREMELY
COMPREHENSIVE AND EXCELLENT. IT
IS TWENTY NINETEEN COMMENCEMENT
ADDRESS AT STANFORD APPLE CEO
TIM COOK SAID QUOTE IF WE ACCEPT
AS NORMAL UNAVOIDABLE THAT
EVERYTHING OUR LIVES CAN BE
AGGREGATED AND SOLD THEN WE LOSE
SO MUCH MORE THAN DATA WE LOSE
THE FREEDOM TO BE HUMAN. HE
LATER ARE CALLED FOR ALL DATA
BROKERS TO REGISTER AND GIVE
USERS THE POWER TO DELETE THEIR
DATA ON DEMAND EXTREMELY EASILY
ONLINE ONCE AND FOR ALL. SO EVEN
THE CEO OF THE BIGGEST OF ALL
THE TECHNOLOGY COMPANIES TELLS
US WE NEED THE ABILITY FOR
CONSUMERS TO HAVE THIS KIND OF
GLOBAL DELETE BUTTON WHEN IT
COMES TO SHATTER WITH THIRD
PARTIES TO COLLECT OUR MOST
SENSITIVE DATA. THE DATA BROKERS
COLLECT- MANY TYPES OF
INFORMATION THOUSANDS OF DATA
POINTS INCLUDING OUR PARTS ARE
PRECISE GEOLOCATION WHAT APPS WE
HAVE IN OUR PHONE. OUR MEDICAL
HISTORY REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH CARE
INFORMATION AND WHAT PURCHASES
WE MAKE AND ANYONE WITH A CREDIT
CARD. CAN BUY IT FROM THEM. THIS
BILL HELPS EMPOWER CONSUMERS BY
BUILDING UPON THE RIGHT TO
DELETE THAT WE HAVE UNDER THE
CALIFORNIA CONSUMER PRIVACY ACT
- LAW IN ORDER REQUESTED
DATABROKER LEADER INFORMATION A
CONSUMER HAS TO MANUALLY CONTACT
FORTUNE FIFTY. DIFFERENCE ACTION
ARE FORTUNATE EIGHTY DIFFERENT
DATA BROKERS LISTED ON THE
REGISTRY FIGURE OUT HOW TO
DELETE AND EACH ONE OF THEM HAS
A DIFFERENT DELETION MECHANISM.
ON THEIR SITES. I'M SO YOU MAKE
ANOTHER WEBSITES AND EMAIL RIGHT
LETTER X. SENTARA. FOR THE
CONSUMER WOULD HAVE TO REQUESTED
AB DELETED AGAIN AND AGAIN FOR
ALL THE NEW INFORMATION A DATA
BROKER COLLECTS ON THEM. THIS
PROCESS IS FAR TOO DIFFICULT
MANY HAS COMMENTED ON ESPECIALLY
FOR AT RISK GROUPS WHO HAVE
THEIR CANCER FINANCIAL PRIVACY
PERSONAL PRIVACY REPRODUCTIVE
PRIVACY AND EVEN IMMIGRATION
STATUS JEOPARDIZED. SO UNDER
THIS BILL CALIFORNIA WILL BE
ABLE TO GO TO ONLINE PORTAL
SPEND JUST THIRTY SECONDS
REQUESTING DATA BROKERS DELETE
ANY DATA THEY HAVE ON THEM. AND
TO NO LONGER TRACKED THEM THAT'S
IT. UNDER THIS BILL I
CALIFORNIA'S WILL WILL BE
ACTUALLY ABLE TO EXERCISE OUR
PRIVACY RIGHTS AND FINALLY TAKE
CONTROL OF THEIR DATA. WITH ME
I'VE- MOLLY ROBSON FOR THE
PLANNED PARENTHOOD ACTION OF
CALIFORNIA AND MATT SCHWARTZ
FROM CONSUMER REPORTS. SECOND
THE MOTION FROM ASSEMBLY MEMBER
WICKS IN THE SECOND FROM
ASSEMBLYMEMBER PROPERTY PLEASE.
THANK YOU GOOD AFTERNOON MY RIBS
AND WITH PLANNED PARENTHOOD
AFFILIATES OF CALIFORNIA WE
REPRESENT THE SEVEN AFFILIATES
IN THE STATE WHO OPERATE OVER A
HUNDRED AND TEN HEALTH CENTERS
IN CALIFORNIA. I'M SINCE THE
DOBBS DECISION ONE YEAR AGO
TWENTY STATES IN ACTED BANS ON
ABORTION OR SEVERELY RESTRICTED
ACCESS TO ABORTION. AND
CRIMINALIZED THESE PATIENTS FOR
SIMPLY ACCESSING HEALTH CARE.
PLANNED PARENTHOOD ALONGSIDE OUR
PARTNERS IN THE REPRODUCTIVE
HEALTH JUSTICE SPACE AND THE
LEGISLATURE HAVE TAKEN MANY
STEPS. TO PROTECT PATIENTS AND
CONSUMERS ACCESSING REPRODUCTIVE
HEALTH CARE ESPECIALLY IN THE
WAKE OF THE DOBBS DECISION AND
PEOPLE BEING FORCED TO SEE CARE
HERE IN CALIFORNIA. THIS BILLS
ESPECIALLY TIMELY AS NOTED IN
THE ANALYSIS AND REPORTED BY
MOTHER BOARD OF CALIFORNIA
REGISTERED DATABROKER. SAFE
GRAPHS INFORMATION RELATED TO
VISITS- TO CLINICS THAT PROVIDE
ABORTIONS INCLUDING PLANNED
PARENTHOOD FACILITIES. SHOWING
WHERE GROUPS OF PEOPLE VISITING
LOCATIONS CAME FROM HOW LONG
THEY STAY THERE AND WHERE THEY
WENT AFTERWARDS. THIS BILL BY
ALLOWING CONSUMERS A ONE STOP
LOCATION TO DELETE PERSONAL
INFORMATION COLLECTED BY DATA
BROKERS WILL IMPROVE CONSUMER
PRIVACY BUT SPECIFICALLY FOR
PRODUCT OF HEALTH CARE PATIENTS
INSURE SOME PEACE OF MIND WHEN
ACCESSING HEALTHCARE. PATIENT
PRIVACY IS OF UTMOST IMPORTANCE
TO PLANNED PARENTHOOD HEALTH
CENTERS AND ENSURING THAT DATA
BROKERS CANNOT SELL DATA RELATED
TO REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH CARE
SERVICES IS A CRITICAL NEXT
STEP. IN PROTECTING PATIENT
PRIVACY AND CONFIDENTIALITY FOR
THESE REASONS I WOULD I
RESPECTFULLY URGE YOUR SUPPORT
ON THIS BILL TODAY THANK YOU. J.
GIVE ROBUST PASSED IN MEMBERS
THE COMMITTEE MY NAME MATCH
WORKS THANK YOU FOR LOW ME TO
THE- CONSUMER REPORTS- SUPPORTS
SB THREE SIXTY THE CALIFORNIA
DELETE ACT. IS IT WOULD GIVE
CONSUMERS MORE CONTROL OVER HOW
THEIR PERSONAL INFORMATION IS
TREATED BY DATA BROKERS. AND TO
THE IS THAT MANY CONSUMERS MAY
NOT EVEN KNOW EXIST. LET ALONE
THAT THEY COLLECT THOUSANDS OF
DATA POINTS ABOUT THEIR LIVES.
CURRENTLY SEE CPA'S RIGHT TO
DELETE IS NOT APPLIED DAY
BROKERS BECAUSE THEY DO NOT
DIRECTLY COLLECT INFORMATION
FROM CONSUMERS. HOWEVER THE
INDIRECT NOUS. OF THE COLLECTION
IS PRECISELY WHY SUCH AN
OMISSION IS PROBLEMATIC. SINCE
CONSUMERS DON'T DIRECTLY.
TYPICALLY DIRECTLY INTERACT WITH
THE BROKERS THEMSELVES THEY
USUALLY DON'T KNOW THIS
COLLECTIONS HAPPENING. LET ALONE
HOW TO PUT A STOP TO IT. NOTABLY
OTHER STATE PRIVACY LAWS LIKE
THOSE IN CONNECTICUT. AND
COLORADO DO APPLY DELETION RIGHT
SAID THEIR BROKERS. SB THREE
SIXTY WOULD PROVIDE A REDWOOD
REMEDY THIS SHORTCOMING BY
GIVING CONSUMERS SOLUTION
RIGHTS. IN ADDITION TO REQUIRING
DATA BROKERS TO PROVIDE
IMPORTANT INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT
INFORMATION THEY COLLECT. THE
EASY TO USE UNIVERSAL DELETION
MECHANISM CREATED UNDER SB THREE
SIXTY WAS ALSO CRUCIAL. S. B.
PEOPLE HAVE THE TIME OR THE
WHEREWITHAL TO DELETE THEIR
INFORMATION INDIVIDUALLY FROM
EACH PROGRAM THAT COLLECTS IT IS
SEEMING THAT THEY COULD EVEN
FIND OUT WHICH ONES DO.
UNIVERSAL PRIVACY CONTROLS ARE
NOT A NEW IDEA SEVERAL
COMPREHENSIVE STATE PRIVACY LAWS
INCLUDING THOSE IN CONNECTICUT
COLORADO MONTANA AND TEXAS. IN
PLACE SIMILAR UNIVERSAL OPT OUT
MECHANISMS- THAT CONSUMERS
DESERVE THIS RIGHT IN CALIFORNIA
AS WELL. I URGE THE COMMITTEE TO
PASS THIS LEGISLATION THANK YOU
FOR ALLOWING ME TESTIFYING HAPPY
TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH NOW BY ANYONE ELSE
IN THE HEARING ROOM IN SUPPORT
OF THE BILL TO COME FORWARD. I
TRACY ROSENBERG ON BEHALF OF
OAKLAND PRIVACY AND IN SUPPORT
OF SB THREE SICK. IN SUPPORT OF
SB THREE SIXTY TWO. JENNINGS
ROAD WITH CALPERS IN SUPPORT.
GOOD AFTERNOON DANNY CANDOR
BECAUSE- ON BEHALF OF THE CO
SPONSORS THE BILL PRIVACY RIGHTS
CLEARINGHOUSE AS WELL AS-
STATING SUPPORT FROM THE
FOLLOWING GROUPS ELECTRONIC
FRONTIER FOUNDATION. ACCESS
REPRODUCTIVE ACTION SECURE
JUSTICE FAIR PLAY CALIFORNIA
ASSOCIATION OF MICRO ENTERPRISE
OPPORTUNITY CONSUMER FEDERATION
OF CALIFORNIA. CONSUMER ACTION
ULTRAVIOLET ACTION PUBLIC
COUNCIL PUBLIC LAWCENTER BUT
SAID IT LEGAL SERVICES
CENTROLEGAL DOT ARE ALSO A-
COMMUNITY LEGAL SERVICES OF EAST
PALO ALTO LEGAL AID MARIN
LEGALLY DECEMBER DINO. RIVERSIDE
LEGAL AID LEGAL ASSISTANCE FOR
SENIORS OPEN DOOR LEGAL SANTA
CLARA UNIVERSITY ALEXANDER
COMMUNITY LAW CENTER AND
WATSONVILLE LAWCENTER THANK YOU
. THANK YOU MISTER CHAIRMAN VERS
AT DOUG SERVERS HERE TO PUT
PLEASED TO BE HERE TODAY AND-
SUPPORT ON BEHALF OF
CALIFORNIANS FOR CONSUMER
PRIVACY HONORED TO CO SPONSOR
THE BILL THANK YOU. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH WILL NOW TURN TO
OPPOSITION.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR ROCKDALE
ARMY WITH THE CALIFORNIA CHAMBER
OF COMMERCE RESPECTFULLY IN
OPPOSITION TO SB THREE SIX TWO
WE APPRECIATE THE COMMITTEE
AMENDMENTS BUT WITHOUT
ADDITIONAL AMENDMENTS MADE TO
THE BILL WE UNFORTUNATELY FIND
AT THAT WILL STILL BE
PROBLEMATIC AND LARGELY
UNWORKABLE. THIS BILL IS
PREMISED ON A STATE OF LOOPHOLE
IN THE CCPA ABOUT OSTENSIBLY
EXAM STATE WORKERS FROM THE
CONSUMER'S RIGHT TO DELETE AND A
DESIRE TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR
CONSUMERS TO SUBMIT THEIR
REQUEST WITH SUCH ENTITIES TO BE
CLEAR HOWEVER THERE IS NO SUCH A
LOOPHOLE IN THE CCPA FOR DATA
BROKERS. MEANING THEY HAVE TO
MAKE CERTAIN DISCLOSURES THEY
HAVE TO PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY
TO OPT OUT AND THEY DO HAVE TO
DELETE. WE KNOW THAT THE CCP WAS
INTENTIONALLY DRAFTED TO APPLY
NOT ONLY TO FIRST PARTY
BUSINESSES BUT ALSO TO ADDRESS
THE REALITY THAT DATA OFTEN
FLOWS DOWNSTREAM TO SERVICE
PROVIDERS CONTRACTORS AND OTHER
THIRD PARTIES AS WELL. HELPING
CLOSE POTENTIAL GAPS IN THE LAW
AND WHILE WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT
THEIR RIGHTS ARE NOT LIMITLESS
INTENTIONALLY CRAFTED EXCEPTIONS
DON'T CONSTITUTE LOOPHOLES THE
LOOPHOLE ARGUMENT HINGES ON THE
FACT THAT THE CCP'S DILIJAN
RIGHT APPLIES TO DATA COLLECTED
FROM THE CONSUMER AND NOT ABOUT
THE CONSUMER. THAT LIMITATION
HOWEVER WAS PUT IN PLACE TO HELP
AVOID RUNNING AFOUL OF THE FIRST
AMENDMENT WE ARGUE THAT THIS
BILL DOESN'T ACTUALLY FIX THE
ISSUE AS IT FOR GOOD REASON.
MAINTAINS THE CCPS FIRST MA'AM
AN EXCEPTION WHAT WE'RE LEFT
WITH IS A BILL THAT CREATES A
BLUNT GLOBAL DELETION INSTRUMENT
THAT ALTERS THE RITE OF DELETION
TO CRITICAL WAYS. FIRST THE
RIGHT WOULD OPERATE INTO
PERPETUITY FOR BUSINESSES ON THE
REGISTRY MEANING THEY THEY HAVE
TO REPROCESS OUR REQUEST EVERY
THIRTY ONE DAYS FOR ALL OF TIME.
THE BURDEN OF HAVING TO
CONTINUALLY RE PROCESS REQUEST
IS ENORMOUS BUSINESS CAN'T JUST
HAD A DELETE BUTTON AND CALL
TODAY. THEY NEED TO MAKE SURE
THAT THEY DON'T DELETE DATA THAT
WOULD UNDERMINE SECURITY THAT
WOULD VIOLATE ANOTHER CONSUMERS
RIGHTS- AND MANY OTHER THINGS
SECOND THE BILL EFFECTIVELY
CREATES A SECOND RIGHT OF
DELETION THAT APPLIES TO THE
SAME DATA AND BUSINESSES THAT
ARE ALREADY COVERED. UNDER THE
CCPA AS WELL AS REGISTERED ON
THIS REGISTRY. FAILING TO
HARMONIZE THE BILL WITH THE CCPA
EXEMPTIONS WILL INEVITABLY CAUSE
CONFUSION. AND DECIPHERING LEGAL
OBLIGATIONS. FOR EXAMPLE UNDER
C. C. P. ABIS ISN'T OBLIGATED
TO. WITH REQUEST. IF IT REQUIRES
THEM TO FIRST RE IDENTIFY DE
IDENTIFIED INFORMATION. NOR DO
THEY HAVE TO COMPLY IF THE DATA
IS COVERED UNDER OTHER DATA
PRIVACY LAWSUIT JUST HAVE R. G.
LBA. THESE AND MANY OTHER
CRITICAL EXEMPTIONS ARE BEING
LEFT OUT OF THE BILL. SO FOR
THESE AND MANY OTHER REASONS WE
MUST UNFORTUNATELY OPPOSE IN ITS
CURRENT FORM THANK YOU. MISTER
SHARON MEMBERS GORDON JOHNSON ON
BEHALF OF TAX CA AND WE
APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATIONS
WE'VE HAD SO FAR WITH THE
AUTHOR'S OFFICE AND THE
SPONSORS- AS PROVIDERS OF
TECHNOLOGY SORT OF. SERVICES AND
SOFTWARE SOLUTIONS DIRECTLY TO
GOVERNMENT AGENCIES TAXI A
MEMBERS OFTEN DO NOT HAVE A
DIRECT RELATIONSHIP WITH THE
CONSUMER. AND ARE THEREBY
REQUIRED TO REGISTER ON THE
CALIFORNIA DATABROKER REGISTRY.
WE DO NOT HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE
BILL'S INTENT TO MAKE THE
MECHANISM OF DELETION EASIER FOR
CONSUMERS. BUT TAXI A MEMBER
COMPANIES CONTRACTS WITH THE
STATE OFTEN REQUIRE THAT THEY
PROVIDE INFORMATION TO THEIR
CUSTOMERS PER THE EXISTING
EXEMPTIONS UNDER THE CCPA. TECH
CA HAS SPECIFICALLY REQUESTED AN
AMENDMENT TO CROSS REFERENCE THE
LANGUAGE OF THE SEA IN THE C. C.
P. EXEMPTION SECTION AND CIVIL
CODE SECTION SEVENTEEN NINETY
EIGHT POINT ONE FOUR FIVE. THE
EXEMPTIONS IN THIS SECTION WERE
HEAVILY SCRUTINIZED DURING THE
CREATION OF CCPA TO ENSURE
PROPER EXEMPTIONS FOR FEDERAL
SECTORAL LAW PRIVACY LAWS AND
LEGAL COMPLIANCE USE CASES THAT
ARE CRITICAL FOR GOVERNMENT
SERVICES. WE BELIEVE IT IS AT
CRITICAL TO CONTINUE TO RELY ON
THE SECTION IN THE CONTEXT OF SB
THREE SIXTY TWO. SHE THE WORK
THE AUTHOR HAS ALREADY DONE TO
ALIGN THE BILL. WITH THE CCPA TO
ENSURE THAT THEY DO NOT CONFLICT
FOR BUSINESSES- AND ARE
AMENDMENT REQUEST THE SAME
CLARIFICATION FOR INFORMATION
THAT CAN BE SHARED FOLLOWING A
DELETION REQUEST. WE JUST WANT
TO INSURE THAT THE BILL DOES NOT
INADVERTENTLY NEGATIVELY IMPACT
GOVERNMENT SERVICES PRECLUDING
THE SHARING OF INFORMATION COULD
MEAN INFORMATION DROPPING OUT OF
RECORDS NEEDED FOR EVERYDAY
GOVERNMENT FUNCTIONS. INCLUDING
INFORMATION AND NEEDED TO VERIFY
IDENTITIES FOR ONLINE ACCESS TO
GOVERNMENT SERVICES INFORMATION
USED BY CHILD SUPPORT SERVICES
IN ORDER TO DETERMINE THE AMOUNT
THAT'S GONNA BE REQUIRED FOR A
PARENT TO PAY FOR CHILD SUPPORT.
AND DATA PROVIDED TO FOSTER
YOUTH AGENCIES TO UNITE CHILDREN
AND FAMILY MEMBERS ARE IN
RELOCATION IS NEEDED THOSE ARE
JUST SOME OF THE EXAMPLES. THAT
REALLY RELY ON THOSE EXEMPTIONS
AND THAT ARE INCLUDED IN CIVIL
CODE SECTION SEVENTEEN NINETY
EIGHT POINT ONE FOUR FIVE. AGAIN
WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE
ENGAGEMENT WITH THE AUTHOR'S
OFFICE ON OUR REQUESTED
AMENDMENT LOOK FORWARD TO
CONTINUING. TO WORK WITH THE
SENATOR ON THIS ISSUE THANK YOU
. THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO HAVE
ANYONE ELSE IN THE HEARING ROOM
IN OPPOSITION. WE ANY TALKING
WITH TECH THAT RESPECTFULLY
OPPOSE. JOINT THERE WILL BE
AFTER THE ASSOCIATION OF
NATIONAL ADVERTISERS ALSO IN
OPPOSITION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
SEEN THAT WILL BRING IT BACK TO
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. TO
REMEMBER FONG. THANK YOU
SENATOR. I MUST ADMIT I'M I'M
STILL TRYING TO KIND OF WRAP MY
HANDS AROUND THIS THIS VERY
COMPLICATED ISSUE ON TO THE
POINT- MADE BY THE OPPOSITION IN
TERMS OF JUST LOCAL GOVERNMENT-
YOU KNOW IN TERMS OF LIKE
DISCLOSURE OF PERSONAL
INFORMATION. TO COMPLY WITH
FEDERAL STATE LOCAL LAWS OR TO
COMPLY WITH A COURT ORDER- YOU
KNOW HOW DO YOU HOW COULD YOU
COULD CLARIFY OR PROVIDE HIM.
SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON
ON HERE WHAT'S EXEMPTED WHAT IS
AN EXEMPTED AND HOW WE CAN HOW
YOU RESOLVE THAT THAT KIND OF
POTENTIAL CONFLICT. YUP BERMAN.
LET ME MAKE SOME COMMENTS ABOUT
THAT THIS SECTION AND WE ARE IN
DISCUSSIONS TONIGHT I DO
APPRECIATE THAT- CHAU WORKED.
CLOSELY REVIEWING THE PROPOSAL
AROUND THIS REFERENCE SECTION
POINT ONE FOUR FIVE. I'M TRYING
TO DETERMINE IF REPRESENT TIRE
SECTION FOR COUNTRIES IN YOUR I
THINK THE POINT YOUR QUESTION.
IF REPRESENTAR SECTION SOUND
POLICY WE ARE INCLUDE A
REFERENCE TO A SUBDIVISION OF
CIVIL CODE. SECTION POINT ONE OH
FIVE. AND AS A RESULT THERE'S
MANY THERE'S REASONS DATABROKER
MAY NOT INITIATE A DELETION
REQUEST. THE HAVING TO DO MOSTLY
WITH PUBLIC SAFETY. I'M BUT YOU
KNOW GIVEN THE UNIQUE NATURE THE
DATABROKER INDUSTRIES WITH
EXAMPLES YOU HEARD IT HERE TODAY
WE WANT TO BE REALLY CAREFUL
ABOUT WHAT TYPES OF EXEMPTIONS
WE PROVIDE SO. THIS SECTION WE
REFER TO POINT ONE FOUR FIVE
THAT INCLUDES EIGHTEEN
SUBDIVISIONS WITH SIXTEEN THAT
ARE CURRENTLY EFFECT. US OR
CLOSELY GOING THROUGH EACH OF
THESE. SOME OF THESE EXCEPTIONS
WOULD NOT MORE THAN LIKELY NOT
APPLIED TO DATABROKER FOR
EXAMPLE THERE'S AN EXCEPTION TO
SELL PERSONAL INFORMATION
BETWEEN A VESSEL MANUFACTURER
AND VESSEL DEALER. IN ORDER TO
EFFECTUATE RECALL OR WARRANTY-
SO. YOU KNOW ALSO WE SHOULD MAKE
SURE THAT BLANKET REFERENCE
DOESN'T ALLOW DATABROKER TO DENY
CONSUMER QUEST. ABSENT BECAUSE
REFERENCE ENTIRE SECTION SO- I
DON'T KNOW IF FOR EXPERT DOUG
SOBERS WANTS TO. SPEAK
SPECIFICALLY SOME EXCLUSIONS
WE'VE ALREADY MADE. BUT YOU KNOW
BUT IN ORDER YOUR GENERAL
QUESTION AND I THINK TO. THE
POINTS REFERENCED BY THE
OPPOSITION WERE UNDER
DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT ENTIRE
SECTION OF POINT ONE FOUR FIVE-
GOING FORWARD. I THINK THE ONLY
THING I WOULD ADD I THINK THE
CENTER NOW THAT THE ONLY THING
ABOUT THAT IS IN THE CONTEXT OF
LIKE- GOVERNMENT INTERACTION
WITH THE DATA BROKER WE ARE
TALKING ABOUT A SITUATION IN
WHICH A DATA BROKER. THAT DOES
NOT HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH
YOU- COLLECTED INFORMATION ABOUT
YOU AND THEN HAS A CONTRACT
SEPARATELY WITH POTENTIALLY A
GOVERNMENT ENTITY TO. PROVIDE
INFORMATION SO NOTHING THAT'S
GOOD NOT SAYING THAT'S BAD BUT
THAT IS JUST THE INTERACTION
THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SO I
THINK THAT IS WHY THERE'S- SUCH
JUST A CAREFUL ASSESSMENT OF
THOSE EXEMPTIONS ARE IN THE LAW.
IS SO CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO
TAKE AWAY FROM THE INTENT OF THE
BILL. AND I AND YOU DO A LOT OF
SECTIONS THAT MAY SO MAYBE I'LL
JUST TRY TO SIMPLIFY IT A LITTLE
BIT. IN AB ****- AS THE
OPPOSITION. IS THERE A WAY TO
CLARIFY THIS THAT THAT THAT'S
RIGHT TECHNICAL SITUATION FOR
LOCAL GOVERNMENT. YOU KNOW IN IN
IN AND UNDERSTANDING THAT THE
NEED TO FOR THE DELETION BUT
LIKE IF THEY'RE IF THEY'RE IF
THERE'S SOMEHOW WEIGHED A
REQUIREMENT TO COMPLY WITH LIKE.
A LOCAL LAW OR STATE LAW- OR
COURT ORDER HOW WOULD. YOU
RESOLVE THAT HOW HOW HOW IS THAT
POSSIBLE. I CONSIDER AND THEN IF
YOU AND I YOU KNOW I THINK ARE
CONCERNED ABOUT SORT OF GOING
THROUGH POINT ONE FOUR FIVE AND
PIECE MEALING IT IS TO THE
CENTER THERE'S A LOT IN THERE
BUT- LET ME JUST SAY THAT I'M AN
ATTORNEY SO. YEAH GOOD- I AM NOT
EITHER SO I JUST PLAY ONE- BUT I
THAT. YOU KNOW THESE WERE
EXEMPTIONS THAT WERE THAT AT
ALL. MISSTATEMENT THE ARMY CAN
SPEAK TO THIS BUT WHAT THERE WAS
A LOT OF TIME SPENT ON THE
EXEMPTIONS IN THIS SECTION WHEN
CCPA WAS BEING PASSED WHEN CPRE
WAS BEING VOTED ON BY THE
VOTERS. AND A LOT OF THEM ENTER
PLAY WITH EACH OTHER ONE FOR
EXAMPLE ONE- EXEMPTION IN THAT
SECTION IS FOR THE FAIR CREDIT
REPORTING ACT AND YOU YOU KNOW
NOT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY THINK
OF THAT IN THE CONTEXT OF
GOVERNMENT SERVICES- BUT THERE'S
A LOT OF INFORMATION AND THAT.
IS ALLOWED FOR. THROUGH THAT
EXEMPTION I'M SPECIFICALLY TO
SUPPORT THE CHILD SUPPORT
EXAMPLE THAT I GAVE- SO I AND I
YOU KNOW THERE'S EXEMPTIONS ON
THERE AND- RECOGNITION FOR BAD
BUSINESS IS NOT HAVING TO RE
IDENTIFY INFORMATION THERE'S- AN
FOR. THERE'S EXEMPTIONS ABOUT DE
IDENTIFIED AND AGGREGATED DATA
WHICH THERE WAS A LOT OF WORK
BEING SPENT ON THAT DURING CCPA.
CREATION SO I THINK WE JUST NEED
TO BE IF YOU KNOW OUR PREFERENCE
WOULD BE BECAUSE THIS CODE
SECTION HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE
THESE EXEMPTIONS HAVE BEEN
WORKING FOR BUSINESSES
BUSINESSES WELL UNDERSTAND THESE
EXEMPTIONS- THAT WE CROSS
REFERENCE THIS CODE SECTION- AND
I THINK THERE ARE SOME LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS. AND GROUPS THAT
HAVE REQUESTED THIS EXEMPTION
ALSO- AS THAT FULL SECTION AND
NOT TRYING. TO GO THROUGH AND
PIECEMEAL IT BUT I'LL- THIS
EMAIL AT YOU TO. I COULD ADD TO
A LITTLE BIT I SHE'S A GOOD
RIGHT DO YOU WHEN WE PAY THE C.
C. WE THE EXEMPTIONS AND
SEVENTEEN NINE EIGHT DOT ONE
FOUR FIVE FIRST AND MANY OTHER
EXEMPTIONS WERE ADDED TO DOT ONE
OH FIVE WHICH HAVE BEEN
INCORPORATED IN THIS BILL. THEY
WERE MEANT TO BE A LITTLE WHAT
THEY ARE MEANT TO BE IN ADDITION
TO. AND SO WHEN YOU LEAVE OUT
ALL THOSE EXEMPTIONS WE DON'T
QUITE KNOW ALL THE RAMIFICATIONS
QUITE YET EITHER AND IT'S NOT
JUST ABOUT GOVERNMENT SERVICES.
BUT THERE'S MANY INSTANCES WHERE
AND THE DATA IS EXEMPTED BECAUSE
IT'S ALREADY COVERED UNDER
SPECIFIC PRIVACY LAW SUCH AS
HAVE BY CMI AGL BA. FC R. A.
THAT- DRIVERS PROTECTION PRIVACY
ACT ALL THOSE THINGS ARE ALL IN
THAT ONE FOUR FIVE SECTION AND
YOU CAN HAVE A SITUATION WHERE
DATABROKER. A COMPANY REGISTERED
AS A DATA BROKER ON THE
REGISTRY. IS ALSO A COMPANY THAT
MAY HAVE A DIRECT RELATIONSHIP
WITH THE CONSUMER SO IN ONE
CONTEXT THERE WEARING A DATA
BROKER HAD ANOTHER THEY'RE NOT.
AND SO WHEN THEY GET A REQUEST
TO DELETE FROM A CONSUMER
WITHOUT HAVING ALL THE
EXEMPTIONS CROSS REFERENCED. I
DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED
TO DO AS THAT BUSINESS ARE YOU
SUPPOSED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE
EXEMPTIONS ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO
IGNORE THEM. WE HAVE NO IDEA
OKAY. SO LET ME JUST AND BY
ASKING THE SENATOR AYE AYE IT
SOUNDS TO ME THAT THAT. THE
CONCERN IT DIVIDED SIMPLIFY IN
AND PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF I GOT
THIS INCORRECT IS IN WHAT I'M
TRYING. TO SEND IS THAT THERE'S-
AN- DIFFERENT SETS OF RULE IT
SEEMS LIKE FOR REFERRING TO
DIFFERENT- LAWS REQUIRED. AND
SECTIONS. AND I'M TRYING TO
UNDERSTAND IF THERE ARE
AMENDMENTS OR CHANGES THAT COULD
DECLINE I CLARIFY. YOU KNOW HOW
THIS ALL SUPPOSED TO TIE
TOGETHER AND I. HAVE READ SOME
OF THE AMENDMENTS THAT YOU
ACCEPTED FROM THE COMMITTEE I
JUST AND KNOW IF THERE WAS SOME
ADDITIONAL- AMENDMENTS THAT
COULD RESOLVE SOME OF THESE
CLARIFICATION QUESTIONS. BECAUSE
CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND AND
APPRECIATE THE INTO THE BILL-
MET WITH- WITH THAT NUMBER THE
SUPPORTERS JUST TRYING TO FIGURE
OUT LIKE. IF THEY'RE JUST THESE
SMALL CHANGES THAT SOMEHOW IF
YOU HAVE TO REFERENCE A
DIFFERENT SECTION A REFERENCE
MULTIPLE SECTIONS. IF THAT WAS
SOMETHING THAT WAS THAT WAS
DOABLE TO THE POINT WHERE WOULD
REMOVE SOME OR ADDRESS MAYBE
NEVER MOVED UP TO ADDRESS SOME
OF THAT. OPPOSITION YEAH. JUST
TO. RESPOND FOR SIDE APPRECIATE
YOU TRYING TO GET TO THE BOTTOM
OF THIS BECAUSE I. IT THERE
THERE WAS A LOT TO HAVE SECTIONS
WE DISCUSSED. BUT THE POINT IS
THAT WE ALREADY MADE EXCEPTIONS
FOR FRAUD AND SECURITY
PROTECTIONS. I'M IN SENATE
JUDICIARY. AND BUT THERE ARE
SOME ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT WE
DISCUSSED SUCH ONE AD YOU KNOW
WE'VE ASKED LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
BUT CITIES AND COUNTIES. FOR
WHICH SECTIONS APPLY TO THEIR
SERVICES. AND WHY AND THEY'RE
STILL GETTING BACK TO US SO I
THINK YOU HAVE MY COMMITMENT
THAT. WE WILL CONTINUE THE
CONVERSATION WHAT WE WANNA MAKE
SURE THAT WE DON'T- YOU KNOW WE
DON'T- THAT MESS ANYTHING UP FOR
LACK OF A BETTER WORD. WITH
CITIES AND COUNTIES- AND- YOU
KNOW ALLOW THEM TO GO ABOUT
THEIR BUSINESS. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH CENTER I HAD. I'M TO HIM TO
GAVEL OVER TO OUR VICE CHAIR I
HAVE A WITNESS THAT NEEDS TO
CATCH A FLIGHT SO I'M GONNA RUN
OVER TO SENATE JUDICIARY BUT
YOU'LL BE IN VERY CAPABLE HANDS
I JUST WANT TO COMPLIMENT TRYING
TO BELT SCRAPED ON HAPPY TO
SUPPORT- AND RESPECTFULLY ASK TO
BE ADDED AS A CO AUTHOR. THANK
YOU. I THINK ANY OTHER AT
QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE.
ALL RIGHT ASSEMBLY MEMBER SALIH
- COUPLE QUESTIONS I HEARD SOME
INTERESTING THINGS SAID BY THE
OPPOSITION I'D LIKE TO GET
CLARIFICATION. YOU SAID THE CCPA
COVERS INFORMATION PROVIDED BY
CONSUMERS BUT YOU DON'T THINK IT
COVERS INFORMATION COLLECTED
ABOUT CONSUMERS. IS THAT SO THE
WAY THAT SEVENTY NINE EIGHT DOT
ONE OH FIVE IS DRAFTED IS THAT
IT APPLIES TO YOUR ABILITY TO
REQUEST DELETION OF DATA THAT
WAS COLLECTED FROM THE CONSUMER
BUT NOT ABOUT THE CONSUMER SO.
FOR EXAMPLE IF I UPLOAD A PHOTO
ONTO A WEBSITE. IT'S RECEIVED
FROM ME SO I CAN DELETE IT IF
COURTNEY WERE TO UPLOAD THE SAME
PHOTO BECAUSE WE'RE BOTH IN IT I
CAN'T GO AND FORCE THE- WEBSITE
TO DELETE THE PHOTO ON COURTNEY
SPEECH BECAUSE SHE HAS RIGHTS
ATTACHED TO IT AS WELL. BUT WHAT
ABOUT THESE AGGREGATORS THAT GO
ONLINE THE SCRAPE THE INTERNET
THEY COLLECT ALL THIS
INFORMATION ABOUT YOU THEY PUT A
PROFILE ABOUT YOU. THEY KNOW WHO
YOUR KIDS ARE WHO YOUR PARENTS
ARE THEY KNOW WE'VE LIVED EVERY
ADDRESS THEM EVERY PHONE NUMBER
YOU'VE EVER HAD. YOU'RE SAYING
IS WE DON'T. WE DO HAVE A RIGHT
TO. THE WAY THAT THE CONTROL
INFORMATION SORRY YES THE WAY
THAT THE CCPA RIGHT NOW IS
DRAFTED AS IT FOCUSES ON WORDS
COLLECTED FROM ME I WOULD ADD
THAT. PUBLICLY AVAILABLE
INFORMATION ALSO EXCLUDED FROM
WHAT CONSIDER PERSONAL
INFORMATION UNDER THE CCPA
THEY'RE ALL GETTING OUT THE SAME
CONCEPT IN DIFFERENT WAYS. SO I
MEAN I MIGHT BE BEYOND THE SCOPE
OF THIS I JUST I'M I'M- I THINK
THERE'S A DIFFERENCE FROM
PUBLICLY AVAILABLE INFORMATION
AND AGGREGATING IT ALL TO
BASICALLY. HAVE YOUR WHOLE LIFE
LAID OUT IN A SINGLE PLACE THAT
COULD BE WEAPONIZED- USED FOR US
MEANT SO. I JUST I'M TROUBLED BY
THAT DISTINCTION I WASN'T AWARE
THAT IT DOESN'T COVER THAT. THE
ISSUE WITH WITH GOVERNMENT OUT I
SUPPORT YOU GUYS WORKING
TOGETHER AND FINDING- AWAITED.
AWAIT IF MOVE FORWARD IN A
AMICABLE MANNER- I DO HAVE
RESERVATIONS AS WELL AS FOR THE
GOVERNMENT IS NOT OUTSOURCING
SURVEILLANCE OR- INFORMATION
GATHERING TO THIRD PARTIES WHO
ARE. LESS ACCOUNTABLE. AND NOT
SUBJECT TO. CONSTITUTIONAL
RESTRAINTS SO. I DO HAVE
CONCERNS THE GOVERNMENT IS
HEADED IN THAT DIRECTION WHERE
THEY'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE THIRD
PARTIES TO THE INFORMATION
GATHERING FOR THEM AND THEN THEY
CAN JUST GO. GET IT WHEN THEY
WANT IT- SAID HAVING RIGHT AWARD
THE SORT OF THING SO. I JUST
EXPRESSING SOME CONCERNS I HAVE
AS A CITIZEN- BUT I SUPPORT THIS
CONCEPT AND- I THINK YOU'LL GET
IT RIGHT SO. THAT'S ALL. AT
RESPOND OUR RESULT YEAH I THINK
YOU ARE MANY FOR THE FIRST PART
YOU YOU YOU- OF YOUR- YOUR
QUESTIONS YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE HAVE THE
BILL RATE DOXING OR THE THINGS
THAT'S AVAILABLE THAT'S HAPPENS
BECAUSE THIS INFORMATION IS
AVAILABLE WITH A CREDIT CARD.
AND FOR MANY PROVIDERS THAT'S
REALLY THE CORE KIND OF CORE
POINT ENTER YOUR SECOND POINT
GOVERNMENT OUTSOURCING YOU KNOW
LESS. FAMILIAR WITH THAT IN THE
CONTEXT OF THIS BUT- SOMETHING
BE WATCHING WATCHFUL. FOR THANK
YOU. ASSEMBLY MEMBER LOWENTHAL
YEAH I'LL BE VERY BRIEF- FIRST
OF ALL I WANT TO COMMEND YOU
SENATOR FOR THIS BILL I THINK IT
IS WONDERFUL I WOULD LIKE TO BE.
CONSIDERED AS CO AUTHOR IF YOU
HAVE ROOM FOR SUCH- AND WITHOUT
GETTING TOO FAR INTO THE WEEDS
IN IT- IT FURTHERS MY
FUNDAMENTAL BELIEF THAT WE
SHOULD ALL HAVE INTELLECTUAL
PROPERTY OVER ON DIGITAL
FOOTPRINT AND NOBODY ELSE SHOULD
HAVE THAT. AND GIVING MUCH MORE
POWER TO THE CONSUMER. I ALSO
THINK IT LENDS ITSELF TO SORT
OF. CORE HUMAN RIGHTS ISSUES
THAT I THINK LENDS ITSELF TO
THIS FIRST IS OUR OWN PERSONAL
EVOLUTION. AND WHAT INFORMATION
IS BEING PRESENTED TO US
PERSONALLY. AS WE SEARCH FOR
INFORMATION AND- PRESENTED
INFORMATION ONLINE. SO FOR
EXAMPLE IF THE ASSEMBLY MEMBER-
FROM. RIVERSIDE COUNTY- AND I
SEARCH FOR THE EXACT SAME
CONCEPTS RIGHT NOW WE MAY BE
PRESENTED TOOK TO TOTALLY AND
COMPLETELY. DIFFERENT BITS OF
INFORMATION BASED ON A LOT OF
THE DATA BROKERING THAT'S BEEN
TAKING PLACE BEHIND THE SCENES.
AND I THINK THAT AFFECTS OUR
EVOLUTION AND. I APPLAUD YOU
COMPLETELY FOR GIVING CONSUMERS
MUCH MORE MEANINGFUL CONTROL AND
ON THE TOPIC OF BEING MEANINGFUL
I ALSO THINK THAT CONSUMERS
SHOULD HAVE. A LOT MORE DIRECT
PARTICIPATION IN THE ECONOMY
PRESENTED- THROUGH BROKERING AND
DATA- THE WHOLESALE. EXCHANGE OF
DATA WHICH WE DO NOT HAVE TODAY
WHATSOEVER. AND I THINK THIS IS
A PATHWAY BEGINNING OF A PATHWAY
TOWARDS THAT I KNOW IT'S A FIRST
STEP WE HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO
BUT- FUNDAMENTAL DO NOT TO THANK
YOU AGAIN CENTER FOR THIS BILL.
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS
FROM THE COMMITTEE. RIGHT I HAVE
A COUPLE COMMENTS. YOU KNOW FOR
ME I'M- IT IS A REALLY BIG
ISSUE. GENERALLY SPEAKING THE
AMOUNT OF DATA THAT'S OUT THERE-
YOU KNOW ON INDIVIDUALS BEFORE I
GOT ELECTED TO THE ASSEMBLY AND
ALL THE HIT PIECES ON ME MOVED
UP REALLY HIGH IN THE GOOGLE
RANKINGS- YOU KNOW I'M- ALL
SORTS OF INFORMATION PERSONAL
WAS AVAILABLE AND SOME OF THEM
SOME OF IT I VOLUNTARILY PUT UP
SOME OF IT AND I DIDN'T. YOU NOW
. AND NOBODY REALLY READS TERMS
OF SERVICE YOU KNOW WHEN YOU
SIGN UP FOR SOMETHING AND MAN
WHAT HOW DATA IS GOING TO BE IS
THAT A I'M NOT A LAWYER BE THERE
USUALLY LIKE HUNDRED PAGES LONG
AND- I JUST WANNA. SIGNED UP FOR
INSTAGRAM OR SOMETHING YOU KNOW
- SO I KIND OF A YOU KNOW I
AGREE WITH THE CONCEPT I THINK.
WHERE I GET A LITTLE BIT WHERE I
STRUGGLE WITH BECAUSE I THINK
PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE POWER OVER
THEIR PERSONAL INFORMATION
ESPECIALLY INFORMATION THAT THEY
- VOLUNTARILY PUT UP IN IS USED
IN WAYS IT. I WASN'T REALLY
INTENDED BY THEM EITHER THROUGH
THEIR OWN. YOU KNOW NEGLIGENCE
AND EVEN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT
HOW IT'S GOING TO BE USED OR
JUST WHO KNOWS WHERE IT GOES
AFTER THAT RIGHT. BUT ALSO I
THINK ABOUT HOW DATA IS OFTEN
USED BY COMPANIES FOR
GOVERNMENTAL SERVICES- YOU KNOW
WHEN I WAS ON A CITY COUNCIL. WE
WERE CONSIDERING- PERMITTING.
SHORT TERM RENTALS IN IN OUR
CITY AFTER AT A SHOOTING
OCCURRED. AND WE JUST TALK ABOUT
WELL HOW DO WE TRACK THIS HOW DO
WE TRACK. YOU KNOW WHAT'S A
SHORT TERM RENTAL HOW TO EVEN
FIND OUT YOU KNOW THINGS LIKE
THAT AND- YOU KNOW THERE ARE
COMPANIES THAT DO THIS AND I
THINK THEY OBVIOUSLY USE DATA
BROKERS TO FIGURE OUT. WHEN
THINGS ARE RANADE YOU KNOW ALL
THOSE ALL THAT STAFF. AND THERE
ARE SO MANY AND THEN ALSO IN
THIS COMMITTEE I THINK WE
CONSIDERED A BILL ABOUT. A
DRONE- DRONES THERE'S BASICALLY
ONE MANUFACTURER OF GROUNDS THAT
A LOT OF POLICE DEPARTMENTS
USING THE SOFTWARE IS BASICALLY
OUT OF CHINA. AND WHO KNOWS
WHERE THAT INFORMATION GOES
RIGHT SO- AND YOU KNOW WE
ADDRESS THAT A LITTLE BIT HERE
BUT I JUST THINK IT'S SO FOR ME
IT SEEMS VERY COMPLICATED TO GO
TO A COMPANY AND SAY HEY. DELETE
STUFF BECAUSE WE DON'T REALLY
KNOW THE UTILITY OF THAT
INFORMATION FOR LEGITIMATE
PURPOSES- AND I THINK THAT'S
WHERE. IF WE CAN SAY HEY GO
DELETE THIS DATA BUT THERE COULD
BE AN ACTUAL LEGITIMATE PURPOSE
FOR THAT DATA AND YOU AND YOU
MIGHT NOT KNOW IT YET. YOU KNOW
WHEN HE GOT THERE AND OBVIOUSLY
HAPPY TO HAVE YOU DRESS THAT
YEAH THIS IS A FIRST OF ALL I AM
I APPRECIATE THAT YOU'RE
STRUGGLING THE COMMITTEE
STRUGGLING WITH THESE ISSUES AND
I'M KIND OF JEALOUS YOU HAVE
ENTIRE. COMMITTEE REALLY FOCUSED
ON THESE ISSUES BECAUSE THEY
ARE. COMING I THINK INCREASINGLY
IMPORTANT- AND WILL ONLY
CONTINUE TO GET MORE IMPORTANT
AS MORE MORE DATA IS OUT THERE
ON US- IN THERE ARE BENEFICIAL
USES RIGHT FOOT FRAUD DETECTION.
AND PREVENTION FACILITATING LOAN
INSURANCE APPROVALS. AND THERE
ARE POSITIVE- THAT BENEFITS THAT
WE DO GET ONE OF THE MEMBERS
THAT WERE TAKING IN THIS
COMMITTEE AND DISCUSSED WITH
THE- ASSEMBLY WOMAN OTHERS IS.
BY HAVING. ONE OF THE KEY THINGS
BILL DOES IS. YOU'RE A STATE
PROGRAM SAY WHAT KIND OF
INFORMATION THEY COLLECT. AND
ONE OF THEM IS A WE'RE TAKING
ALLOW PEOPLE TO GO THROUGH AND
LOOK AND SAY HEY GREAT I'M HAPPY
WITH MY INFORMATION HERE- OF THE
STATE RECORD BUT I WANTED TO
LEADER FROM THIS ONE THIS ONE
THIS ONE. RIGHT SO YOU COULD DO
THE GLOBAL DELETE OR YOU COULD
ACTUALLY GO THROUGH- NOW THAT
YOU SEE WHAT KIND OF
INFORMATION. IS AVAILABLE SO- I
THINK YOU KNOW THERE ARE
POSITIVE BENEFITS AND WE YOU
KNOW. YOU KNOW IF PEOPLE WANT TO
TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THOSE. THAT'S
GREAT BUT WE DO WANT TO GIVE
PEOPLE- THE OPTION. KEISUKE CAN
YOU RIGHT NOW GO TO A DATA
BROKER AND ASK THEM WHAT
INFORMATION THEY HAVE ON YOU. I
BELIEVE SO I DON'T NEED THE-
OUR- WITNESS WILL. YES YES YES
THERE IS YES UNDER THE- GOVERNOR
PRIVACY RIGHTS ACT IN THE CIVIL
CODE YOU CAN ASK. FOR PERSONAL
INFORMATION AS LONG AS-
DATABROKER IS. MINCED MEAT TO
TERMS UNDER AS A BUSINESS YES IT
IS NOT ALWAYS EASY RIGHT JUST WE
SAID RIGHT NOW IF YOU WANT TO
LEAVE YOU HAVE TO GO TO FOR
ENGINE EIGHTY DIFFERENT WEBSITES
YOU ALSO HAVE TO GO TO FOR STIFF
EIGHTY FOR WEBSITES TO FIGURE
OUT. WHAT INFORMATION THEY THEY
COLLECT ON YOU. NOW OKAY. THANK
YOU AT. OKAY YES- ASSEMBLY
MEMBER IRWIN. THANK YOU- OF
FIRST I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY
WE WERE ARE THE DELETION RIGHTS
THE SAME AS- WITH THIS BILL THE
SAME AS UNDERSEA CPA. OUR IS OUR
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE WORKING
TOWARD. WELL I THINK A BONE FOR
MY WITNESS BUT I MIGHT. WHAT
WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS AGAIN TCPA
THEIR- PROVIDERS I THINK THE
GOAL WAS TO HAVE SOME DELETION-
RIGHTS BUT AGAIN YOU HAVE TO GO
TO FORGE A DIFFERENT WEBSITES
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE
FUNDAMENTAL THINGS WERE SOLVING
WITH THIS. BILL AS OPPOSED TO
HAVING A ONE STOP SHOP TO LEAVE
MY INFORMATION. ANYTHING TO ADD
THEIR- YEAH I WOULD I WOULD JUST
ADD THAT THE BILL DOES REFER TO-
CREATE ALIGNMENT BETWEEN THE
DEFINITIONS BETWEEN THE TWO LAWS
BUT THE BILL DOES PUT AN
EXPLICIT REQUIREMENT ON THE DATA
BROKERS TO DELETE. THE PERSONAL
INFORMATION THEY HAVE ABOUT A
CONSUMER. UNLESS THERE'S THE
EXEMPTION AND SEVENTEEN NINETY
POINT ONE ZERO FIVE D.
SUBDIVISION D. THAT ARE
ALLOWABLE REASONS NOT TO-
SUBMITTED WE SHOULD REQUEST. SHE
DOESN'T LINE YEAH RIGHT SO- YOU
KNOW YOU AND I'VE TALKED ABOUT
IT AND I THINK THE INBOUND OF
INFORMATION THOSE DATA BROKERS
HAVE AS FRIGHTENING AS BUT LIKE
FOR ME ESPECIALLY. WHEN THEY
HAVE A LIVE LOCATION DATA I MEAN
THAT THAT'S FALLING AND I WOULD
DO MY LITTLE PSA TO ALL OF YOU
MAKE SURE TO GO THROUGH ALL YOUR
APPS AND THAT THEY'RE NOT.
COLLECTING YOUR LOCATION DATA
BECAUSE THAT'S OFTEN WHERE THEY-
WHERE THEY GET THAT INFORMATION
AND I HAVE GONE THROUGH SOME
DATA BROKERS AND TRY TO DELETE
MY INFORMATION AND- IT IS VERY
DIFFICULT AND REALLY IMPOSSIBLE
IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. YOU
KNOW FIVE HUNDRED DIFFERENT-
DATA BROKERS BUT- IT'S VERY
COMPLICATED THIS IS SORT OF A
THIS IS. A COMPLICATED IDEA I
THINK REALLY NECESSARY BUT
COMPLICATED ONE OF THE THINGS
SAID THAT- I WOULD QUESTION IS.
HOW MUCH DOES THAT DATABROKER
NEED TO KNOW ABOUT. WHERE THEY
CAN DELETE YOUR INFORMATION. SO
YOU KNOW YOU CAN'T JUST GO
ONLINE TO A DATA BROKER. AND SAY
THIS IS MY NAME WE YOU NEED TO
MAKE SURE IT'S THE RIGHT PERSON
YOU MIGHT HAVE TO GIVE YOUR
ADDRESS AND THEN THAT ALL
BECOMES A LITTLE. SCARY ALSO SO.
HAVE YOU THOUGHT THROUGH SOME OF
THOSE. TECHNICALITIES BECAUSE AS
I SAID WHEN I WENT TO THE DATA
BROKER YOU AT HAVE TO FILL OUT A
WHOLE. FORM TO MAKE SURE IT WAS
THE RIGHT PERSON SO THEN I FEEL
THAT IT'S EVEN MORE OF A IN. AND
I PRIDE. IS A GOOD CALL. I'M I
MEAN I WILL SAY THAT YOU KNOW
THE COURT. BUSINESS OF THESE
FOLKS IS TO FIGURE OUT WHO YOU
ARE HEY. YOU KNOW THEY KNOW THIS
MET THERE'S MANY JOHN SMITH TO
TRY TO FIGURE OUT YOU KNOW WHO
YOU ARE. OTHERWISE THE VALUE THE
PRODUCT IS NOT. IS UNDERMINED SO
- I THINK YOU KNOW AND GET OUT
OF DEFERRED OF MY WITNESS HAS
SPECIFICS ON THAT I DON'T KNOW
THE SPECIFICS IS A GOOD
QUESTION- BUT I THINK I CAN SAY
WE WOULD SURELY HAVE THE
MINIMUM. NECESSARY FOR THEM TO
BE ABLE IDENTIFIED IT IS A CORE
PART OF THE BUSINESS TO ANY ANY
COMMENT ON IT. YEAH I WELL I
WANNA READ IT BUT IF YOU LOOK AT
SECTION SIX OF THE BILL AND-
SUBDIVISION A WHEN IT DIRECTS
THE CALIFORNIA PRIVACY
PROTECTION AGENCY TO DEVELOP AND
ACCESSIBLE DELETION MECHANISM.
ONE ONLINE FOUR THROUGH NINE.
TALKS ABOUT IMPLEMENTING AND
MAINTAINING SECURE REASONABLE
SECURITY MEASURES THERE IS A
REQUIREMENT WITHIN THE CURRENT
LAW. THAT A REQUEST HAS TO BE
VERIFIABLE SO THE BUSINESS OR
THE ENTITY HAS THE RIGHT TO
VERIFY THAT IT IS YOU REQUESTING
TO DELETE YOUR DATA AND MAYBE
NOT SOMEONE ELSE. SO THERE IS A
I GUESS IT. JOINT WHICH TRYING
TO BUY. YOU KNOW PROVIDING
INFORMATION TO IDENTIFY THAT IT
IS YOU AND- AT THE SAME TIME
NOT. PROVIDING MORE INFORMATION
TO THE UNIVERSITY. THANK YOU AND
AGAIN I THINK THIS IS A REALLY
IMPORTANT ISSUE AS- MISTER
LOWENTHAL HAS SAID I THINK WE
HAVE GIVEN THE WAY. WAY TOO MUCH
OF OUR PERSONAL INFORMATION AND
CALIFORNIA'S REALLY TRYING TO.
RATCHET DOWN BUT A LOT OF TIMES
THE DEVIL'S IN THE DETAILS SO-
YOU NEED TO WORK ON IT AND- THIS
BILL. WOULD BE GREAT FOR.
CONSUMERS THANK YOU. I JUST LOVE
THEM IN RESPONSE TO MY COLLEAGUE
I JUST LIKE TO. QUICKLY SAY
THAT- IF THE STANDARD FOR
EXERCISING YOUR PRIVACY RIGHTS
IS THAT. YOU HAVE TO DEMONSTRATE
THERE'S NO VALUE TO THE
INFORMATION. THAT SOMEBODY ELSE
MIGHT HAVE. WE WOULD BE ABLE TO
EXERCISE VERY MANY PRIVACY
RIGHTS SO I THINK YOU WE CAN'T
SAY. OH WERE NOT GOING TO DO
THIS BECAUSE THIS INFORMATION
MIGHT BE VALUABLE TO SOMEBODY
THAT THAT'S JUST WAY TOO HIGH A
STANDARD FOR US TO HAVE WE
SHOULD BE ABLE TO EXERCISE A
PRIVATE CHURCH THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM
THE COMMITTEE ALL RIGHT. JUST
ONE LAST COMMENT IF YOU IN MIND
I THINK THE THIRTY DAYS JUST
FROM MY PERSPECTIVE IS A LITTLE
BIT. A YOU KNOW GRASS SAVE BUT-
YOU KNOW I REALLY APPRECIATE
YOUR WORK AND IN THIS AREA- I'M
REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT OUR DATA
AND THE PROLIFERATION AND THE
USE OF IT AND I DON'T REALLY
HAVE SYMPATHY FOR REASONS WHY
IT'S NEEDED TOO MUCH BUT- THIS
IS A MONSTER. BILL WITH
CONSEQUENCES THAT I THINK ARE
PRETTY- YOU KNOW I'VE SAY GOOD
FOR PEOPLE BUT ALSO THERE'S SOME
BIG ONES THAT I CAN'T REALLY.
YOU BRING UP A GOOD POINT
ASSEMBLY MEMBER BENNETT THANK
YOU FOR SAYING THAT SO- YOU
KNOW. I'M GONNA LAY OFF I THINK
TODAY YOU KNOW AND I LOVE TO
HAVE MORE MEETINGS WITH THE
PROPONENTS- BEFORE THIS HAD TO
THE FLOOR BUT THANK YOU FOR
BRINGING THIS SO. AND WITH THAT.
IF YOU CAN CLOSE. SURE THANK YOU
FOR THE THOUGHTFUL DISCUSSION
AND HAPPY TO CONTINUE IT- WITH-
ANY THE FOLKS ON THE COMMITTEE
WORKING HARD ON THE DETAILS. AND
A LOOK FORWARD TO CONVERSATIONS
GOING FORWARD APPRECIATE. AGAIN
THE INTEREST IN THE TOPIC AND
ARE WITNESSES AND EXPERT
WITNESSES AND RESPECTFULLY ASK
RIVAL. RIGHT AND WAS THERE
MOTION. THIS IS TO PASS AS
AMENDED TO JUDICIARY COMMITTEE.
CORRECT INTEGRAL OKAY I DON'T
KNOW WHEN SB THREE SIXTY TWO BY
SENATOR BACKER. GABRIEL
PATTERSON NOTHING PATTERSON NOT
BODING BARRICADE HIM. BENNETT
BENNETT HI IS SALIH. SALIH
VOTING FONG. FOUND NOT THIRTEEN
HEART. I IRWIN. FIVE IRWIN I ALL
. ONE THOUGHT I HAPPEN. HAPPEN I
WOULD. WICKS I. IT'S IS IT A-
YEAH OKAY YEAH IT IS OUT. AND
BOY WAIT AT ON SOME VOTES THE
AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH THANK.
THIS IS RIGHT. RIGHT SENATOR AG
THINK- THANK YOU FOR HERE AND
WHEN EVERY READY. THANK YOU VERY
LARGE UP AS AS WE TWO FOUR FOUR
THANK YOU VERY MUCH JOBS MEMBER
NICE TO HERE TODAY- PRESENTING
TWO FORTY AND THOSE YOU FOR TERM
. I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS
ISSUE SINCE TWENTY EIGHTEEN WHEN
I WAS IN THIS BODIES SO A FOR
ALL GOOD IDEAS THERE COMES A
TIME. AND WE THINK THIS YEAR IS
GOING TO BE THE TIME. THE
PRODUCT BEFORE YOU TODAY IS THE
RESULT OF SIGNIFICANT
NEGOTIATION AND WORK IN MANY
DIFFERENT ATTEMPTS. AND MANY
DIFFERENT ITERATIONS BUT THIS
ONE SIMPLY SAYS THAT WE AS
CONSUMERS SHOULD HAVE MORE
CONTROL OVER OUR LIVES ARE
DEVICES CALIFORNIA'S THROWAWAY
FORTY SIX THOUSAND IPHONE TODAY.
IT'S EASIER TO THROW ONE AWAY TO
GET A NEW ONE. AND IT'S VERY
DIFFICULT TO GET ONE FIXED
OFTENTIMES IF YOU LIVE LIKE I DO
IN STOCKTON. THE BUSINESS MODEL
IS THERE IS ONLY A STORE WITHIN
FIFTY MILES OF ME SO I HAVE TO
TAKE A FULL DAY MAKE AN
APPOINTMENT AND GO WAIT IN LINE.
BECAUSE OFTENTIMES IF YOU GO
DOWN TO YOUR QUARTER RETAILER
WHO WHO ARE INDEPENDENT A
PERSON. THEY CAN THEY DON'T HAVE
THE PARTS THEY DON'T HAVE THE
MATERIALS THEY DON'T HAVE THE
TOOLS THEY DON'T HAVE THE
INFORMATION SO THAT'S WHAT THIS
BILL SIMPLY SAYS. IS THAT
ANYBODY SELLING ANYTHING IN
CALIFORNIA HOUSE AND THERE
ALREADY IS A BILL IT WAS ALREADY
LAW THAT SAYS ANYBODY ANYTHING
THAT WE SELL SHOULD HAVE A-
THREE SEVEN YEAR. WARRANTY ON
THAT- SO THIS SIMPLY SAYS AND
OFTENTIMES THE MANUFACTURERS GET
AROUND THAT BY ONLY PROVIDING
THE PARTS THAT THE TOOLS OF THE
SCHEMATICS. FOR THERE ARE
QUALIFIED- DEALERS. SO THAT
REALLY LIMITS THE MARKET WE KNOW
THAT THIS IS REALLY GOOD FOR
SMALL BUSINESS OUR SMALL MOM AND
POP REPAIR PLACES THAT POP UP
EVERYWHERE. ARE JUST AS CAPABLE
OF SOMEBODY THAT A MAJOR
CORPORATION HIRES INSTEAD. OF IT
IS WE KNOW THAT PEOPLE DO THESE
REPAIRS ALL THE TIME JUST USING
YOUTUBE AND OFTENTIMES NOT
HAVING THE CORRECT PARTS- AND OR
INSTRUCTIONS- SO THIS. BILL
ADDRESSES THOSE THINGS. IN IT
AGAIN WILL SAVE ON WE DO. THEIR
AMOUNT. E. WASTE TRASH THAT WE
ARE GOING TO KILL OURSELVES
WITHIN THE REST OF THE WORLD IF
WE DON'T. ARE ABLE TO FIX MORE
OF OUR THINGS- I CAN TELL YES
SOMEBODY AT WELL OVER SIXTY WAS
BEEN THE DOCTOR THIS WEEK WITH A
BAD KNEE I'M GLAD THAT WE CAN
FIX THINGS AND WE DON'T JUST
HAVE TO. THROW THEM AWAY AND
START FROM SCRATCH. THIS BILL
HAS RECEIVED A BI PARTISAN
OVERWHELMING SUPPORT AND IT HAS
GONE THROUGH THIS TIME AS YOU
KNOW WE'VE ENGAGE IN A LOT OF.
DEBATES AND ENGAGEMENT. AND WE
THINK WE'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK
TO- REALLY MAKE SURE THIS IS A
WIN WIN WIN. FOR EVERYBODY. AND
WITH ME TODAY I HAVE CHEN EXTRA
FROM CALPERS AND LIZ CHAMBERLAIN
I FIX IT. I THANK YOU VICE CHAIR
AND MEMBERS WITH MANY MY NAME IS
JOHN EXTREM I'M THE STATE
DIRECTOR FOR CALPERS. STATE BY
CONSUMER ADVOCACY GROUP AND
WE'RE A PROUD CO SPONSOR OF SB
TWO FOUR FOUR. RC IN COUNTRY HAS
AN ELECTRONIC WASTE PROBLEM
CALIFORNIA HOUSEHOLDS ALONE
PRODUCED AN ESTIMATED SEVEN
HUNDRED AND SEVENTY TWO THOUSAND
TONS OF E. WASTE EACH YEAR.
WHICH CAN LEACH TOXIC CHEMICALS
INTO OUR ENVIRONMENT. AND THIS
NUMBER IS SO HIGH IN PART
BECAUSE MANUFACTURERS OF DEVICES
RANGING FROM SMARTPHONES TO
REFRIGERATORS. RESTRICT ACCESS
NECESSARY REPAIRMAN CEREALS. AS
A RESULT CONSUMERS ARE FORCED TO
GO TO THE ORIGINAL MANUFACTURER.
WHO CAN THEN SET PRICES SO HIGH
THAT IT JUST MAKES SENSE TO BUY
SOMETHING NEW. SB TWO FOUR FOUR
WILL BRING MORE COMPETITION AND
CONSUMER CHOICE TO THE REPAIR
MARKET PLACE. WITH MORE OPTIONS
FOR REPAIR CONSUMERS CAN MORE
AFFORDABLY FIX THEIR DEVICES
WHICH IS EXPECTED TO SAVE
CALIFORNIANS AN ESTIMATED FIVE
BILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR.
KEEPING THINGS IN HOUSTON OUT OF
THE LANDFILL ALSO ADDRESS OUR
EBATES CRISIS AND REDUCE THE
NEED FOR NECESSARY MINING AND
PRODUCTION. SB TWO FOUR FOUR
WILL ALSO PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES
FOR SMALL BUSINESSES. SMALL
LOCAL REPAIR BUSINESSES ACROSS
THE STATE ARE STRUGGLING. WITH
59% OF SHOPS SURVEYED INDICATING
THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE TO CLOSE
THEIR DOORS AS MANUFACTURERS
CONTINUE TO RESTRICT- REPAIR
ACCESS. GIVEN ALL THIS IT'S NO
SURPRISE THAT RIGHT TO REPAIR IS
BROADLY POPULAR ACROSS THE
POLITICAL SPECTRUM. OUR SURVEY
FOUND THAT 75% OF CALIFORNIANS
SUPPORT RIGHT TO REPAIR
INCLUDING MAJORITIES OF
DEMOCRATS REPUBLICANS AND
INDEPENDENTS. PRESIDENT BIDEN
HAS REITERATED SUPPORT FOR THESE
REFORMS IN STATES ACROSS THE
COUNTRY ARE STARTING TO TAKE
ACTION. AND WITH SIMILAR BILLS
PASSING RECENTLY IN NEW YORK
COLORADO AND MINNESOTA.
OPPONENTS OF THE BILL MAY RUN
ALL SORTS OF ARGUMENTS AGAINST
IT INCLUDING CONCERNS AROUND
SAFETY AND CYBERSECURITY. ABOUT
THE FEDERAL TRADE COMMISSION
INVESTIGATED THESE AND OTHER
CONCERNS AND FOUND QUOTE SCANT
EVIDENCE IN SUPPORT OF
MANUFACTURES DRUG JUSTIFICATIONS
REPAIR RESTRICTIONS. AND THEY
STATED THAT THE CHANGES WE SEEK
OUR QUOTE WELL SUPPORTED BY
COMMENTS SUPPORTER FOR THE
RECORD AND TESTIMONY PROVIDED.
RIGHT TO REPAIR IS AN IDEA WHOSE
TIME HAS COME TO YOUR PROPERTY
MAKE A HUGE STEP FORWARD FOR
CONSUMERS AND FOR THE
ENVIRONMENT. FOR THOSE REASONS
WE HEARD YOUR IPHONE THANK YOU.
HI THERE THANK YOU OF FOR
HEARING LET'S NOT A PLEASURE TO
BE HERE I'M ELIZABETH
CHAMBERLAIN I'M DIRECTOR OF
SUSTAINABILITY FOR I FIX IT
WHICH IS A CO SPONSOR OF SB TWO
FORTY FOUR. WE ARE A REPAIR
COMPANY BASED IN SAN LUIS OBISPO
WE HAVE NEARLY A HUNDRED
THOUSAND GUIDES FOR HOW TO FIX
EVERYTHING FROM TOASTERS TO
TRACTORS. AND MISSILE PARTS AND
TOOLS FOR CONSUMER GADGETS SO
THAT PEOPLE CAN FIX THINGS
THEMSELVES. THEY ALSO SELL PARTS
AND TOOLS WHOLESALE INDEPENDENT
REPAIR SHOPS AND RECENTLY WE'VE
STARTED HELPING MANUFACTURERS
GET ORIGINAL PARTS TO THEIR
CUSTOMERS WERE NOW. THE OFFICIAL
- PARTS DISTRIBUTOR FOR GOOGLE
AND SAMSUNG. THROUGH OUR
BUSINESS WE HEAR FROM
INDIVIDUALS AND FROM INDEPENDENT
REPAIR SHOPS ABOUT THE THINGS
THAT MAKE REPAIR DIFFICULT. BOTH
GROUPS COMPLAIN THAT THEY HAVE
TROUBLE FINDING SPARE PARTS.
MANUFACTURERS OF PRODUCTS LIKE
VACUUM CLEANERS FITNESS TRACKERS
OFTEN DON'T HAVE ANY PARTS
AVAILABLE AT ALL. OTHER PRODUCTS
HAVE ONLY A VERY LIMITED RANGE
OF PARTS FOR EXAMPLE WHEN THE
AUDIO CHIP FAILED IN MY LAST
PHONE. I COULD FIND OF BATTERY
OR SCREEN EASILY BUT NOT THE
AUDIO CHIP. BUT EVEN WHEN YOU
CAN FIND A REPLACEMENT PART.
REPAIR MAY STILL BE BLOCKED
INCREASINGLY SOFTWARE LOCKS MAKE
REPAIRS DIFFICULT OR IMPOSSIBLE.
THROUGH A PROCESS CALLED HERTZ
PAIRING MANUFACTURES LINK APART
TO A DEVICE SERIAL NUMBER. AND
THEN LIMIT THE PARTS
FUNCTIONALITY UNLESS YOU PUT IN
A SPECIAL CODE. SOME PARTS
PAIRING JUST MAKES ANNOYING
WARNINGS POP UP. OTHER SYSTEMS
ACTUALLY MAKE A PART IMPOSSIBLE
TO REPLACE. SB TWO FORTY FOUR
WOULD ADDRESS ALL OF THESE
PROBLEMS. WOULD MAKE SURE THAT
INDIVIDUALS AND INDEPENDENT
REPAIR SHOPS CAN GET ACCESS TO
THE SAME PARTS TOOLS AND
DOCUMENTATION THAT MANUFACTURE
SHOPS HAVE. IT WOULD REQUIRE THE
MANUFACTURES GIVE CUSTOMERS
ACCESS TO THE SOFTWARE NECESSARY
TO MAKE PARTS FUNCTIONAL. AND IT
WOULD LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD
FOR REPAIR MAKING REPAIR
CHEAPER. AND MORE WIDELY
AVAILABLE FOR ALL CALIFORNIANS.
GIVEN THIS COMMITTEES PRIVACY
AND CONSUMER PROTECTION FOCUS I
WANT TO SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT.
MANY FACTORS MAY TELL YOU THAT
THIS BILL PUTS CONSUMERS PRIVATE
DATA AT RISK. BUT REPAIR DOESN'T
REQUIRE ACCESS TO THAT DATA.
COMPANIES THAT ARE GENUINELY
CONCERNED ABOUT CUSTOMERS DATA
COULD FOLLOW SAMSUNG'S LEAD.
THEY RECENTLY INTRODUCED A
MAINTENANCE MODE. CONSUMERS CAN
CAN PUT IT A VICE INTO THEY SEND
SOME IN PER. THE HIDES PURSE
DATA. LIMITS ACCESS ONLY TO
FUNCTIONS THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR
TROUBLESHOOTING. I'D ALSO LIKE
TO POINT OUT THAT THIS BILL
EXAMPLE TRADE SECRETS DOESN'T
REQUIRE MANUFACTURERS TO LICENSE
INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY. WE WORK
REALLY CLOSELY WITH
MANUFACTURERS AND WITH
INDEPENDENT REPAIR SHOPS TO KEEP
THIS BILL FOCUSED ON ITS GOAL
WHICH IS. MAKING SURE THAT
REPAIR IS POSSIBLE WITHOUT
INTRODUCING NEW RISKS TO
CONSUMERS. I THINK THAT'S
BUSINESS GIVES US A UNIQUE
OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR CONCERNS
FROM ALL CORNERS OF THE REPAIR
MARKET. AND WE WORK WITH REPAIR
SHOPS CONSUMERS ADVOCATES WE RUN
REPAIR PROGRAMS FOR
MANUFACTURERS. AND FROM THAT
WORK WE CAN SAY THAT THIS BILL
IS A SOUND COMPROMISE THAT WORKS
FOR ALL INTERESTS. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. OTHER WITNESSES. NAME
MAN AFFILIATION. IN SUPPORT.
GOOD AFTERNOON. YEAH NOT SERVED
AND- WE HAVE THE CONSUMER
FEDERATION OF CALIFORNIANS
SUPPORT. NOW SO AUTHORIZED
EXPRESSED THE SUPPORT OF THE
GREEN LINING INSTITUTE. REBEKAH
MARQUESS I AM ON BEHALF OF THE
CONSUMER PROTECTION POLICY
CENTER OF THE U. S. T. LAW
SCHOOL AND SUPPORT. AS WELL AS
THE CARBON CYCLE INSTITUTE THANK
YOU. REPUBLICAN BEHALF OF
CALIFORNIANS AGAINST WASTE
APPROACH- SPONSOR IN STRONG
SUPPORT. MARKET SHE DRUM BEHALF
THE LOS ANGELES COUNTY BOARD OF
SUPERVISORS AND SUPPORT. DANNY
CAN'T ACROSS OR ON BEHALF OF
ELECTRONIC FRONTIER FOUNDATION
IN SUPPORT. NETWORKS ON BEHALF
OF CONSUMER REPORTS WERE IN
SUPPORT. TRACY ROSENBERG ON
BEHALF OF OAKLAND PRIVACY IN
SUPPORT. IS THIS ONE ABOUT THE
LIST SO I APOLOGIZE CITY AND
COUNTY OF SAN FRANCISCO SOLID
WASTE ASSOCIATION OF NORTH
AMERICA LEGISLATIVE TASK FORCE
CALIFORNIA CHAPTERS. NATIONAL
STEWARDSHIP ACTION COUNCIL
CALIFORNIA PRODUCT STEWARDSHIP
COUNCIL WESTERN PLASTER WASTE
MANAGEMENT AUTHORITY IN THE CITY
OF BEVERLY HILLS ON SUPPORT
THANK YOU. MAR AGER ON BEHALF OF
RETHINK WASTE BREAST CANCER
PREVENTION PARTNERS IN THE
CLEANS HIS LOBBYING COALITION
SUPPORT THANK YOU. OKAY THANK
YOU VERY MUCH WILL NOW TURN TO
OPPOSITION.
GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIR VICE CHAIR
MEMBERS DEAN TAYLOR WITH THE
CALIFORNIA MANUFACTURERS AND
TECHNOLOGY ASSOCIATION. CMJ
WORKS TO IMPROVE AND ENHANCE A
STRONG BUSINESS CLIMATE FOR
CALIFORNIA'S THIRTY THOUSAND
MANUFACTURING PROCESSING AND
TECHNOLOGY BASED COMPANIES ARE
TRADE ORGANIZATION JUMPS NEARLY
REPRESENTS NEARLY FIVE HUNDRED
BUSINESSES FOR THE MANUFACTURING
COMMUNITY. A SECTOR OF
CALIFORNIA'S ECONOMY THAT
GENERATES MORE THAN THREE
HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS ANNUALLY
AND EMPLOYS MORE THAN ONE POINT
THREE MILLION PEOPLE. OUR
MEMBERS OF THE INTERNATIONAL
LEADERS IN INNOVATION AND
TECHNOLOGICAL DEVELOPMENT OF
AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES AEROSPACE
AND DEFENSE SYSTEMS THAT OPERATE
GLOBALLY AND EVERYTHING ELSE
INCLUDED WITHIN THE
MANUFACTURING SPECTRUM IN
CALIFORNIA. FOR INDUSTRY RIGHT
TO REPAIR FRAMEWORKS HAVE BEEN
ONGOING IN CALIFORNIA AND
NATIONALLY FOR THE LAST FIVE
YEARS RIGHT TO REPAIR IS A
NATIONAL DIALOGUE. THE
LEGISLATIVE BODIES ROLE IN THIS
DEBATE IS BALANCING THE CONSUMER
INTEREST IN HAVING THE RIGHT TO
REPAIR WITH THE SOMETIMES FROM
PRIDE JERRY AND TECHNOLOGICAL
INNOVATIONS OF THE INDUSTRY AS
WELL AS PERSONAL SECURITY AND
CONSUMER SAFETY. FROM OUR
MEMBERSHIP PERSPECTIVE OUR
IMPRESSION OF THIS BILL IS THAT
IT REQUIRES OEMS REVISED THE
KNOW HOW TO DIAGNOSE REPAIR
PRODUCT BUT DOES SO WITHOUT
CONSUMER PROTECTION THAT IS
SUPPORTED BY OUR REPAIR
NETWORKS. TRAINED INCUMBENCY AND
POTENTIAL RISKS OR PUTS DATA
PRIVACY AND SECURITY AT RISK THE
STATE MUST SATISFY THIS
REQUIREMENT KEEP PROPRIETARY AND
COMPETITIVE ENGINEERING FROM
BEING DISCLOSED TO THE PUBLIC
CAUSING POTENTIAL HARM TO
CONSUMERS AND BUSINESSES ALIKE.
CALIFORNIA MANUFACTURERS ARE
MAKING SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENTS
IN DEVELOPING PRODUCTS AND
SERVICES AND PROTECTING OUR
INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY IS A
LEGITIMATE CONCERN TO SUSTAIN
FUTURE INNOVATIONS IN A DIVERSE
TECHNOLOGICAL INDUSTRY. EVEN
WITH THESE CONCERNS SEEM TO
YEARS MEMBERSHIP IS STILL
UNCLEAR AS TO WHAT PRODUCTS ARE
AND ARE NOT WITHIN THE SCOPE OF
THIS BILL. A SPECIFIC AND
NARROWLY CRAFTED RIGHT TO REPAIR
BILL IS NEEDED AND WHILE WE
APPRECIATE THE MANY
CONVERSATIONS YOU HAVE STAFF WE
ARE NOT CONVINCED THIS IS NOW
ENOUGH. FOR THESE REASONS WE
REMAIN OPPOSED. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH ANY ADDITIONAL WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION. GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD
AFTERNOON THANK YOU TURN OVER
SEVENTY MORAL HERE ON BEHALF OF
THE CONSUMER TECHNOLOGY
ASSOCIATION- I WORRY ARE OPPOSE
THE BILL IN ITS CURRENT FORM WE
WANT I THINK THE AUTHOR HER
STAFF AND THE- SPONSORS OF THE
BILL FOR CONTINUE CONVERSATIONS
AND LOOK FORWARD TO. RESOLVING
SOME OUTSTANDING ISSUES THANK
YOU. THE ANY TALK OF ATTACK THAT
WE HAVE AN OPPOSE UNLESS AMENDED
POSITION ON THE BILL THANK YOU.
JAMIE HAVE WITH CIVIL JUSTICE
ASSOCIATION OF CALIFORNIA I
RESPECT THE AUTHOR IN THE INTENT
TO WOULD LIKE TO WORK ON FURTHER
AMENDMENTS THANK YOU. HI MAKE
CIDER WITH THE ASSOCIATION OF
HOME APPLIANCE MANUFACTURERS
AND- A POST. HI JONATHAN YOUR
BILL BEHALF OF CTIA THE TRADE
ASSOCIATION FOR THE WIRELESS
INDUSTRY ALSO OPPOSE LESS AMID.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH WILL NOT
FORGIVE ACTION COMMITTEE
QUESTIONS COMMENTS REMEMBERS THE
COMMITTEE. SO MEMBER FONG. I
THANK YOU CENTER JUST ONE QUICK
QUESTION JUST TO CLARIFY I KNOW
THE- ONGOING- EFFORT- I KNOW
THERE'S BEEN ISSUES IN THE PAST
ABOUT MEDICAL DEVICES I WONDER
IF YOU CAN ANSWER. HELD THIS
ORDER APPLIES OR DOESN'T APPLY
TO PROGRESS. YEAH THAT IS A
DIFFERENT REGULATING BODY AND SO
THAT MEDICAL DEVICES DO NOT.
APPLY YOU'LL SEE A CENTER DODD
COME THROUGH WITH SOMETHING WITH
ELECTRIC WHEEL CHAIRS WE
ATTEMPTED THAT DURING COVERT
WHEN ENTERING YOU MAY RECALL
LIKE A X. RAY MACHINE OR MRI
MACHINES BREAKING DOWN SOMEWHERE
AND- AND PEOPLE JUST STOP
BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T GET. THE
TECHNICAL REPAIR PERSON UP THERE
SO WE TRIED THAT YOU'RE TO FOR
MEDICAL DEVICES WERE SUCCESSFUL
ASSEMBLY ELSE DOING THAT THIS
YEAR WE'RE JUST DOING A
STRAIGHT. YOUR PERSONAL DEVICES
AND APPLIANCES. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH SO NUMBER WICKS. THANK YOU-
I WANT TO THANK THE SENATORS
DEDICATION TO THIS I KNOW THAT
YOU'VE BEEN ON THIS JOURNEY FOR
QUITE SOMETIME. SO APPRECIATE
YOUR DOGGEDNESS ON IT- I THINK
THIS IS A COMMON SENSE BILL. I
THINK IT MAKES SENSE WE HAVE
SUCH A HIGH VOLUME OF ELECTRONIC
GOODS AND I WORRY ABOUT ITS
IMPACT ON OUR PLANET- AND WHAT
HAPPENS WITH ALL OF THOSE GOODS
IN THOSE BATTERIES AND OTHER
THINGS SO SIT WITH US IN THE
MORE THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY
ACTUALLY FIX THOSE THINGS THE
BETTER- I'D LOVE TO BE ADDED AS
A CO AUTHOR OF HAPPY TO MAKE A
MOTION TO MOVE THE BILL FOR YOU.
THANKS VERY MUCH WITH. A SECOND
MOTION WE HAVE A MOTION FROM
ASSEMBLYMEMBER WICKS A SECOND
FROM ASSEMBLY MEMBER BENNETT.
YES AND AS A CO AUTHOR ALSO
THANK YOU. OKAY ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS COMMENTS MY CHECK-
QUESTIONS. WHAT'S THE THOUGHT
PROCESS ON INCLUDING. YOU KNOW
STARTING FROM TWENTY TWENTY ONE
. STARTING TWENTY FOUR ONE ED
JUST BECAUSE THAT'S THE THINGS
THAT ARE ALREADY MANUFACTURED
PEOPLE ALREADY HAVE IN THEIR
HANDS RIGHT NOW. OKAY YOU WANT
TO GO BACK EVEN. EVEN FURTHER
AND THAT SEEM LIKE. A ON A
MANAGEABLE SO THAT WAS A
COMPROMISE THAT WE CAN TO
HIGHER. IN THIS IS FOR IF THE
MANUFACTURER PROVIDES TOOLS AND
DOCUMENTATION. TO THEIR
AUTHORIZED FACILITY CORRECT-
AND- HOW DOES THIS WORK EXACTLY.
YOU'VE BEEN OBVIOUSLY MUCH MORE
INVOLVED IN THIS THAT I HAVE HOW
DOES THIS WORK WITH THAT- YOU
KNOW IF YOU HAVE A DEVICE IT'S
UNDER WARRANTY YOU MAKE THE
REPAIR. AND THEN- YOU KNOW-
REPAIR I DEFINITELY WOULD NOT
REPAIRED AS GOOD AS AN
AUTHORIZED PERSON SO WITH MY
PHONE STILL UNDER WARRANTY.
THAT'S WHERE WORKING WITH WE CAN
TO WORK WITH THE- ON THAT WILL
PROBABLY. TAKE THAT ONE ON LATER
I MEAN THE YOUR YOUR WARRANTY.
SHOULD REMAIN THREE YEAR
WARRANTY IF YOU HAVE ALL THE
CORRECT TOOLS TO BE ABLE TO MAKE
IT SO THAT'S AN ISSUE THAT IS
STILL ONGOING THAT WE NEED TO
CONTINUE. TO WORK ON- BUT THAT
AS AS WE TALKED ABOUT HOW
SAMPSON IS ABLE TO DO THINGS IT
IT CAN BE DONE- WHETHER A- THE
MANUFACTURE WE CHOOSE TO TAKE
THAT ROUTE WE WOULD HOPE NOT
THAT'S ABOUT THE TAKE RIGHT NOW.
BUT WITH THE PASSAGE OF THIS AND
WITH BEING IT KNOWN THEN THAT
THEY ARE. INDEPENDENT PEOPLE ARE
ALSO ON UNDER THE SAME-
LEGISLATIVE BODY AS- THE
MANUFACTURERS AND THE- THE- THE
BROAD RIGHT NOW THE PREFERRED
PROVIDERS. THEY'RE ALL REGULATED
BY THE SAME ENTITIES SO THERE
ARE THE CONTACT WARRANTY SHOULD
REMAIN IN EFFECT. OKAY IT'S EASY
TO MAKE THAT EXCUSE NOW IF
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SOMEBODY WHO
HAS THE PARTS FROM THE
MANUFACTURE. ALL RIGHT- JUST A
COUPLE I JUST ONE LAST COMMENT I
IT I AM APPRECIATIVE AND IT
SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE STILL.
WORKING ON THIS AND SOME OF THAT
IS THAT DETAILS ON THE
WARRANTIES FOR EXAMPLE THAT THAT
ISSUE BUT- I THINK WHAT YOU'RE
TRYING TO DO IS- IS A GOOD THING
I'VE SEEN A LOT OF REGULATORY
BODIES THROUGHOUT THE WORLD SORT
OF PUSHING THIS. ISSUE WITH YOU
KNOW SOME OF THE BIGGER
COMPANIES BUT OBVIOUSLY THAT
THIS OF THIS IS MUCH MORE BROAD
THAN THAN THAT- YOU KNOW THIS IS
SOMETHING I THINK THAT I WOULD
BE INTERESTED AND YOU KNOW
CONSIDERING SUPPORT I'D LIKE TO.
YOU KNOW SEE IT SORT OF IN ITS
FINAL. CONVERSION YOU KNOW SURE
IT'S THEIR NUMBER SURE- SO YOU
KNOW THE APPRECIATE YOUR WORK ON
THIS AND- WHAT HAPPENED YOUR
BILLS IN THE PAST ON THIS ISSUE
I OFTENTIMES THEY DIDN'T EVEN
GET A HEARING. THANKS IT'S HARD
TO KILL THINGS IN A LIGHTED DAY
I SAY. I KNOW THAT FEELING. BUT
SAY AGAIN AND APPRECIATE YOUR
COMMITMENT TO THIS THANKS YEP. I
JUST REALLY BELIEVE THAT WE NEED
TO GIVE THE POWER BACK TO THE
PEOPLE AND IT DO YOU KNOW IF WE
BUY SOMETHING WE BOUGHT IT IT'S
THAT WE'RE NOT LEASING IT FROM A
COMPANY IF WE CHOOSE TO LEASE
SOMETHING FROM A COMPANY. THEN
WE SHOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO
THAT COMPANY IF WE BUY IT IT'S
OURS AND WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO
MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT. HOW WE
WANT TO REPAIR IT. ONE HUNDRED
PERCENT. THANK YOU. OKAY I
THINK. THAT'S IT- CENTER I ALSO
WANT TO APPLAUD YOU FOR YEARS OF
PATIENT WORK ON THIS ISSUE. WE
SHOULD ALL THE WORK THAT YOU'VE
DONE IN THE SPACE IT'S NICE TO
SEE THAT THE- PRESIDENT IS
FOLLOWING YOUR LEAD ON THESE
ISSUES AND- THIS IS AN ISSUE
THAT'S RISEN TO ONE OF NATIONAL
PARTON'S AND THAT OTHER STATES
HAVE ACTED. WANT TO COMPLIMENT
YOU ON THE BILL THAT YOU'VE
CRAFTED SO FAR I THINK. A LOT
OF- THOUGHTFUL SAFEGUARDS IN
THERE FOR I. T. FOR CYBER
SECURITY FOR PRIVACY FOR
CONSUMER SAFETY. I'M HAPPY TO
SUPPORT THE BILL TODAY AND WE
JUST ASSOCIATE WITH MY COMMENTS
WITH THOSE OF US REMEMBER WICKS
THIS IS. A COMMON SENSE BILL
IT'S TIME TO GET IT DONE- SO
HAPPY TO SUPPORT THE DAY. AND
RECOMMEND AN AYE VOTE AND THE
MOTION IS. DUE PASSED THE
JUDICIARY COMMITTEE TOO HAD A
MOTION FROM ASSEMBLY MEMBER
WICKS A SECOND FROM ASSEMBLY
MEMBER BENNETT- MADAM SECRETARY
WHAT. SENATOR PLEASE CALL.
PLEASE BECAUSE OF YOU I JUST I
JUST APPRECIATE THE DIALOGUE I
AM I AM VERY PROUD OF MY
NINETEEN FIFTY FOUR WHICH WOULD.
OF AND IT'S STILL RUNNING IN MY
HOUSE. ALL MY OTHER LARGE PLANES
HAD TO BE. BY BY THE LOWER
SYSTEMS THAT YOU HAVE TO START
THIS NEW DISHWASHER BECAUSE I
DON'T UNDERSTAND IT. WE HAD TO
GET A NEW ONE DESPITE HAVING
LEARNED. A LESSON FIVE YEARS AGO
BECAUSE WE COULDN'T GET IT
REPAIRED. I ASK FOR YOUR AYE
VOTE. THAT'S QUITE A CLOSER
RIGHT WITH. MADAM FOR CALL THE
ROLL. I REMEMBER FOR S. B. FORTY
FOUR BY. ADMIN THE- MOVE IS TO
PASS. THE CHIEF. TO IT. HI APRIL
HI PATTERSON. PATTERSON VOTING
BARRICADE. BENNETT THE SALE- HI.
SIR BENNETT. CLOSELY ASSEMBLY.
SALIH NOT VOTING. FONG YEAH.
FONG NOT VOTING. YEAH HEART I.
IRWIN I'VE IRWIN ISLAND THOUGH.
LINDA ALL RIGHT HAPPEN. HAPPEN
ALL RIGHT WICKS. HI WICKS I
THANK YOU. THAT HAS SEVEN VOTE
YOUR BILLS OUT WE WILL LEAVE THE
ROLE OF FOR MEMBERS DON'T THINK
YOU REGULATION. OKAY LET'S GO
AHEAD AND OPEN THE- ON S. B.
THREE SIX TWO BAKER. I REMEMBER
ONE SB THREE SIXTY BY SENATOR
PACKARD GABRIEL HI GABRIEL I AM
WORKING HIM. K. THAT THE VOTE
NOW SEVEN ZERO SO THAT BILL IS
OUT WE BELIEVE THE ROLE OF AND
PROPS TO MEMBERS. WE WILL MARK
YEAH. NOW WE'RE GOING TO NOW
WE'RE GONNA I JUST WENT OUT ON
TO THE- MORE. OKAY OKAY. WE'RE
NOT GONNA TURN OUR FIGHT- ALL I
FINAL ITEM FILE ITEM NUMBER
THREE. S. U. R. SEVENTEEN AND WE
HAVE ASSEMBLYMEMBER IRWIN WHO'S
GOING TO BE PRESENTING FOR
SENATOR DOT. WE ALL OF THE OTHER
COMMITTEES TO GET TO SO I WILL
ASK YOU TO BE I'LL BE QUICK. OF
MISTER CHAIRMAN BIRDS S. C. R. A
SEVEN FIRMS THIS LEGISLATURE'S
COMMITMENT TO DEVELOPING A SAFE
AND RESPONSIBLE FRAMEWORK FOR
THE USE OF ARTIFICIAL
INTELLIGENCE ARTIFICIAL
INTELLIGENCE HAS THE POTENTIAL
TO TRANSFORM. OUR SOCIETY
IMPROVE OUR LIVES IN COUNTLESS
WAYS FROM ENABLING PERSONALIZED
HEALTHCARE FINANCING THE SAFETY
AND EFFICIENCY OF OUR
TRANSPORTATION SYSTEMS. BUT AS
WITH ANY NEW TECHNOLOGY IT ALSO
PRESENTS NEW CHALLENGES AND
RISKS PARTICULARLY WITH RESPECT
TO DATA PRIVACY CYBERSECURITY.
AND BIAS THIS RESOLUTION
ACKNOWLEDGES THESE RISKS AND
AFFIRMS OUR COMMITMENT TO
ADDRESSING THEM IN A THOROUGH.
THOUGHTFUL AND DELIBERATE MANNER
IT CALLS ON US TO WORK WITH
INDUSTRY LEADERS RESEARCHERS AND
OTHER STAKEHOLDERS TO DEVELOP
GUIDELINES AND BEST PRACTICES.
THAT ENSURE THE SAFE RESPONSIBLE
AND EQUITABLE USE OF A. I. I
URGE YOUR SUPPORT FOR THIS
RESOLUTION AND TO JOIN ME IN
ADVANCE OF POLICIES THAT PROMOTE
INNOVATION WHILE ALSO PROTECTING
THE PUBLIC INTEREST BY DOING SO
WE CAN ENSURE THAT. THE BENEFITS
OF A ARE ARE REALIZED BY ALL.
AND THAT WE CAN BUILD A FUTURE
TOGETHER THAT IS NOT ONLY
SMARTER BUT ALSO SAFER AND MORE
JUST I. RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
MICHAEL. THEY THANK YOU FOR MUCH
WE HAVE A- MOTION BY SOME MEMBER
HARD WHO GOT THEIR FIRST I'LL
TAKE THAT AS A SECOND BY
ASSEMBLY MEMBER LOWENTHAL. ANY
WITNESSES IN THE REMOTE SUPPORT
ABOUT. ANYWAY THIS IS IN
OPPOSITION. SCENERY BUDGET
COMMITTEE COMMENTS QUESTIONS.
ALL RIGHT SEEN ON THANK YOU VERY
MUCH OF SOME OF OUR FOR
PRESENTING THIS OBVIOUSLY A HUGE
ISSUE OF CONCERN I HAVE AN
EXPECTATION THAT MANY MANY OF
THE BILLS THAT THIS COMMITTEE
HEARS IN THE FUTURE WILL DEAL
WITH THE SUBJECT BY A AYE. BUT
THIS IS AN IMPORTANT START AND-
HAPPY TO SUPPORT THE BILL
WITHOUT RESPECTFULLY INVITE YOU
TO CLOSE. EXACTLY ESCRIBO OKAY
WITH THAT WE HAVE THE MOTION IS
NOT BE ADOPTED. AND WE HAVE A
MOTION FROM SOME OF OUR HEART A
SECOND FROM ASSEMBLY MEMBER
LOWENTHAL MADAM SECRETARY PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL. I REMEMBER THREE
STR SEVENTEEN BY SENATOR DODD
GABRIEL HI GABRIEL HI PATTERSON.
PATTERSON I AMERICANS. SENATE
ASSEMBLY. IS DALY AYE FONG. FONG
NOT VOTING HEART. HEART I IRWIN-
IRWIN AYE LOWENTHAL. LOUISVILLE
I HAPPEN. I WENT.
WE HAVE SEVEN VOTE THAT BILL IS
THAT IS A DOC IT WILL LEAVE THE
ROLE OF THE CROPS. IF YOU. OKAY
OCT. WE'RE GONNA RIO THE RAW ON
FILE ITEM THREE S. C. R.
SEVENTEEN MINUTES SECTOR. I
REMEMBER THREE S. YEAR
SEVENTEEN- WITH M. G. SEVEN.
EXTRAS JUST CONSERVE OUR
AMERICAN HAND SENATE. AND I.
OKAY I DON'T.
YEAH.
EVERYTHING.
MADAM SECRETARY LET'S OPEN THE
ROLE ON A FILE ITEM THREE S. C.
R. SEVENTEEN REMEMBER THREE
SEVENTEEN WHAT EXACTLY AT. THE
RESTAURANT KIND OF.
OKAY ARE WE HAVE OUR FINAL VOTES
FOR SB THREE SIX TWO BACKER THE
FINAL VOTE YOU SEVEN ZERO THAT
BILLS OUT FOR FILE ITEM NUMBER
TWO S. B. TWO NINE SIX DODD THE
FINAL VOTE IS NINE ZERO THAT
PHYLLIS OUT FOR S. C. R.
SEVENTEEN DODD FILE ITEM NUMBER
THREE THE FINAL VOTE IS NINE
ZERO THAT THAT IS ADOPTED FOR
FILE ITEM NUMBER FOUR S. B. TWO
FOUR FOUR EGGMAN THE FINAL VOTE
IS SEVEN ZERO THAT BILL IS OUT.
FOR FILE ITEM NUMBER FIVE SB
FIVE NINE FIVE ROTH THE FINAL
VOTE IS ELEVEN ZERO THAT BILL IS
OUT IN FOR THE CONSENT CALENDAR
THE FINAL VOTE IS ELEVEN ZERO
THE CONSENT CALENDAR IS ADOPTED
AND WITH THAT THIS HEARING IS
ADJOURNED.