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SOON AS WE GET A QUORUM WILL.
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VOTE ON YOUR ITEM WHENEVER
YOU'RE READY MISTER BECKER THANK
YOU TO HAVE WITNESSES I DO YEAH
ARE THEY HERE THEY ARE TODAY ONE
COME TO THE TABLE ABSOLUTELY.
ABOUT WHERE THIS IS COMING UP
WHEN YOU. CHANCE ACCORDING THIS
CHAIR AND MEMBER. HERE TODAY TO
PRESENT AT BEFORE SEVEN. THE BAY
ACT BASIC AFFORDABLE SUPPLY FOR
CAR RATED CALIFORNIANS. AS A
DETAIL. IN THE- SAN DIEGO UNION
TRIBUNE. THIS BILL LIMITS
FRIGHTENED SO IN PRISON STORES
NO THAN TEN OF THE PRICE PAID TO
VENDORS. IN THE CANTEEN THERE
THINGS SO LIKE FOOD HYGIENE
PRODUCTS HEALTH SUPPLEMENTS
STATIONARY AMONG OTHER ITEMS.
CANTEEN ITEMS HOWEVER ARE MARKED
UP AN AVERAGE OF 65% ABOVE THE
COST TO THE VENDOR. AND THEY CAN
BE MARKED UP OVER 2100% ABOVE
THE COSTS THE AVERAGE CONSUMER
FOR EXAMPLE IN FEBRUARY TWENTY
TWENTY THREE PRICELESS FROM SAN
QUENTIN CHAU AQUA FRESH CENTER
TOOTHPASTE BEEN SO CANTEEN FOR
FIVE DOLLARS AND FIFTY CENTS.
YES CELLS FOR A DOLLAR EIGHTY
THREE AT MORE AT WALGREENS A
MARK UP OF OVER 2100% THESE
MARKUPS MAKE MANY PRODUCTS AND
ACCESSIBLE IN ECONOMICALLY TRAIN
OVER THIRTY MILLION DOLLARS A
YEAR COMPELLINGLY LOW INCOME
FAMILIES OF COLOR. GIVEN THE
MINIMUM WAGE IN PRISONS IS EIGHT
CENTS AN HOUR ROUGHLY TWELVE
DOLLARS A MONTH MARKUPS CAN TAKE
AN EXORBITANT AMOUNT OF ANY
QUESTION A PERSON'S INCOME.
ACCORDING TO A TWENTY TWENTY
REPORT BY IMPACT JUSTICE 60% OF
INCARCERATED PEOPLE SURVEYED
SAID THEY COULD NOT AFFORD
CANTEEN PURCHASES. AN ELLA BAKER
CENTER REPORTED NEARLY TWO OR
THREE FAMILIES WITH INCARCERATED
FAMILY MEMBER WERE UNABLE TO
MEET THEIR FAMILY'S BASIC NEEDS
INCLUDING FOOD AND HOUSING DUE
TO THE FINANCIAL BURDENS. OF
INCARCERATION. WE NEED THE BILL
THE BASICS ACT BECAUSE CARCERI
PEOPLE SHOULD NOT HAVE TO CHOOSE
BETWEEN THE BASIC NECESSITIES OF
FOOD HYGIENE PRODUCTS FOR HEALTH
SUPPLEMENTS. LAST YEAR WE TOOK
AN ENORMOUS STEP AS A
LEGISLATIVE BODY. ON ELIMINATING
ONE BIG A BURDEN FAMILIES GOING
TO DEBT WHICH WAS PERSON PHONE
CALL. AND NOW WE'VE GOT A CHANCE
THIS ACT- CHOI MOVE HUGE BURDEN
THE FAMILIES OF INCARCERATED
CALIFORNIANS. EVERYONE DESERVES
ACCESS TO BASIC NECESSITIES
EVERYONE DESERVES AFFORDABLE
SUPPLIES. THAT WERE DESERVES TO
KNOW THAT THEIR LOVED ONES HAVE
EVERYTHING THEY NEED TO CARE FOR
THEMSELVES. WITH ME TODAY
TESTIFY OR E. SUPPORT INCIDENT
ELLA BAKER CENTER FOR HUMAN
RIGHTS. EMANATE HILDA LOVE ONE
OF TO INCARCERATED FAMILY
MEMBERS. OKAY YOU A FIVE MINUTE
ALL. THE BIBLE YOU WANT TO SPLIT
IT UP COULD YOU JUST GIVE ME ONE
INDULGENCE YOU HAVE TO PEOPLE
WAITING- I FORGOT TO MENTION THE
I. THAT WERE PULLED OFF
GALLAGHER JUST IN CASE. ARRIVE
TO YOUR- I DON'T SIX EIGHTY
NINE. BOAT HAS BEEN BY THE
AUTHOR ITEM NUMBER. SB TWO SIX
EIGHT ARATTA GILL TOLD AUTHOR
ITEM NUMBER FOUR SB. NINE RUBIO
PULL BY AUTHOR AND ITEM NUMBER
TWO TWO SIX SB SEVEN NINE SIX
OUR OUT OF GUILT BY OUR- JUST IN
CASE ANYBODY HERE- HELLO TWO SIX
TO THE WHOLE. COMMITTEE MEETING
. SO WHENEVER YOU'RE READY YOU
MAY BEGIN. THANK YOU TO A MORE
CHECK MEDIUM NAME IS YOU SAY.
THEN THE CAMPAIGN MANAGER AT THE
L. A. SENT WHERE PRODUCT SPONSOR
SENATOR AS FORCED FOUR B. THIS
BILL WOULD BE SIX. MAR UPS ON A
FOR IN HIGH ITEMS SOLD AND HOW
PRISON CANCER. I HOPE THIS THIS
COMMITTEE WE CONSIDER THE ON
PRESS THE SUPPORT WE WERE FROM
IN FOR THIS BILL OVERSEE.
HUNDRED FROM. COMMUNITY BUT
BECAUSE OF ADDICT FOOD IN
HYGIENE FOR. IN STATE PRISONS
MOSTLY CARS PEOPLE RELY CAN'T BE
PURCHASED THE NEED THEIR BASIC
NEEDS BUT WHAT THE 65% MARK UP
IN PRISON WE JUST AS LOW AS
EIGHT CENTS AN HOUR ESSENTIAL
ITEMS LIKE TOOTHPASTE AND BODY
WASH ARE OUT OF REACH FOR MANY.
AS A RESULT FAMILY MEMBERS
PRIMARILY BLACK AND BROWN WOMEN
ALREADY STRUGGLING TO KEEP UP
WITH THE COST OF INCARCERATION
ARE FORCED TO TAKE ON THIS
BURDEN. IN FACT EACH YEAR OVER
PRICE CANTEEN ITEMS ECONOMICALLY
DRAIN EIGHTY MILLION DOLLARS.
FROM LOW INCOME FAMILIES IN
CALIFORNIA. IT IS ONYX. FOR CARS
PEOPLE AND OUR LOW ONES FIND THE
DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTION OPERATE
EXPENSES AND STAFFING COSTS
THROUGH HIGH MARK UPS ON
ESSENTIAL GOODS I LIKE THIS YEAR
EVERY TESTIMONY FROM C.
WARRANTED. INSIDE FELLOW WHO'S
CURRENTLY. AT QUENTIN. TRY TO A
WORKING FULL TIME ONLY TO
RECEIVE TWELVE DOLLARS AND
EIGHTY CENTS EACH MONTH I USE MY
EARNINGS TO PURCHASE NECESSITIES
FROM THE PRISON CANTEEN. BUT THE
ITEMS I NEED TO SURVIVE ARE TOO
COSTLY TO AFFORD A CASE OF COSTS
OF SUIT COST TEN DOLLARS AND
EIGHTY CENTS MY DEODORANT THREE
DOLLARS AND SIXTY CENTS LAUNDRY
SOAP TWO DOLLARS AND FORTY
CENTS. OVERPRICED CANTEEN ITEMS
FORCED ME TO BECOME A FINANCIAL
BURDEN FOR MY FAMILY. PASSING SB
FOUR SEVEN FOUR WOULD GIVE US
INCARCERATED PEOPLE A SENSE OF
DIGNITY AND HELP RELIEVE OUR
LOVED ONES WHO WORK HARD TO
SUPPORT US. I'LL CLOSE BY JUST
SAYING THAT CALIFORNIA 65%
MARKUP IS ONE OF THE HIGHEST IN
THE COUNTRY WE'RE SECOND ONLY TO
ALABAMA. AND I THINK THAT WE
HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TODAY TO
PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW FINANCIAL
RELIEF FOR JUSTICE INVOLVED
FAMILIES. ENSURING EQUITABLE
ACCESS TO BASIC NECESSITIES THAT
INCARCERATED PEOPLE TRULY NEED
TO SURVIVE. I RESPECTFULLY URGE
RIVALS THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YOU
MAY BEGIN. HI MY NAME. HI NAME
IS MONDAY AYE HE- I'M THE EXACT
ARE. OF THE HEALTH FUND. WHICH
IS LOCATED ALONG BEACH ALONG
WITH MY HEAD WORKS. L. AND-
SOLANO SOLANA. SOLANA PAPER THEN
. I ALSO HAVE WITH AT HOME IN
BAY. PER I'M HERE. TO PLEAD WITH
YOU TO VOTE IN AND FOUR SEVENTY.
SO LOWERED HIGH MARKET AND CAN I
IN PRISON. THE PRICE CDC ARE.
THEM MANY WOMEN IN PRISON WE DID
AND OUTRAGEOUS. NOT ONLY IS THE
UNFAIR TO CARDS PAPA. WHO NEED.
A FIVE WITH EX FOOD PERSONAL. IT
IS ALSO UNFAIR TO THE FOR WHO
ARE THE ONES THAT END UP PAYING
THESE HIGH PRICES. MY HAVE BEEN
ACROSS THE FOR A YEAR IN MY HAVE
- IN PER FOR A AND A HALF YEARS
I'M ONLY SO THIS. FINANCIAL EACH
MY- YOU FOR YOUR PER PERSON- IN
THE ONLY WE ONE HUNDRED OF IT
BECAUSE THEY HAVE RESTED- THERE
ARE. THAT I HAVE TO CHOOSE TO
PAY ONE OF MY BILLS CREDIT IN OR
TO MAKE THAT FUNDS FOR CANCER.
EVERY MY THE PRICES GO UP. IF SB
FOUR FOUR BECOME LAW IT WOULD
HELP ME AND HOW OF MANY OTHER
FAMILY SAY MY TO SERVE OUR LOW
ONES FOR A OF FIFTH WERE
RETAINED. ALLEN I KNOW I WILL BE
HAN OF DOLLARS A MONTH. I COME
YOU TODAY TO URGE YOU TO PLEASE
SAY YES TO BEFORE SEVENTY. AND
THE FINAL BURKE OF THE OF. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU ARE THERE ANY
OTHER WITNESSES IN. GOOD MORNING
MARCO TO ON THE OF THE CAL
PUBLIC DEFENDER OFFICE AND
FRANCISCO TO SAW. INSTEAD THANK
YOU NAME ORGANISER. THANK YOU.
ERICA DISABILITY OR HEALTH
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. GOING BACK
AS FOR THE FRIENDS ON LIKE. IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. SUIT FROM A
COMMON LAW STRONG. THANK YOU.
DUKE ON BEHALF OF A YOU ACR CAL
ACTION SUPPORT THANK YOU. IS
HELLO THE CITY AND COUNTY GO
SUPPORT THANK YOU. YOU SEE THE
P. AND STRONG SO. KELLY MURDER
LIMINA PROJECT HINGED SO THANK
YOU. THIS IF YOU CAN PROSECUTORS
ONCE CAL INITIATE JUSTICE
TRANSFORMATIVE PRISON WORKING
AND GRAFT IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU
. POLICE MONTERO FROM CAL UNITED
ABOUT RESPONSIBLE. RESPONSIBLE
BUDGET INSTRUCTS THANK YOU.
CLAIRE MCNEILL ELEVATOR CENTER
FOR YOU RIGHTS IN STROKES. THANK
YOU ANY OTHER WITNESS AND SO.
NOW WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION. ANY
WITNESSES IN OP- SEEING BRING IT
BACK TO THE CA FOR COMMENTS OR-
ONE SHOULD. SAN AT AS FAR AS THE
BUDGET GOES DO WE KNOW EXACTLY
WHERE GOES OR WHAT IT WHAT HOW
WITH PROVIDE FOR THE IN. LET ME
TURN IT OVER TO WITNESS. SERVER
ARM PROPPING FROM THE FROM- SALE
PURCHASE GOING THE IN MAY
WELFARE WHICH FUNDS ARE THINGS
VAST OF OUR THE FUNDS FOR THE
INMATE WELL FUND ARE YOU. TO SO
THE OPERATING OF THE CANTEEN- A
LARGE MAJORITY OF THAT IS
STAFFING COSTS FOR CDCR STAFF
WHO WORKED THE CANTEEN ON
THERE'S ALSO A SMALL AMOUNT IN
THE TUNE OF- A FEW MILLION ON
THAT GOES TOWARDS SUPPORTING
VERY IMPORTANT IMPRISONED
PROGRAMS- AND THAT FUNDING IS
SCHEDULED TO END COMING FROM THE
INMATE WELFARE FUND ACTUALLY BY
TWENTY TWENTY FIVE- AND BUT A
VAST MAJORITY OF IT GOES TOWARD
YOU SEE OUR OPERATING EXPENSES
AND STAFFING COSTS ASSOCIATED
WITH RUNNING THE CANTEEN. I'M
ABOUT THIRTY MILLION DOLLARS A
YEAR IS HOW MUCH IS GOING RIGHT
NOW AND THE ESTIMATED
APPROPRIATIONS IS ON TWENTY
SEVEN MILLION DOLLARS. AND JUST
JUST TO FOLLOW UP THE IN WELFARE
FUND WITH HURT OTHER PRO. IN THE
PRISONER THIS FOR OTHER INMATES
THAT MAY NEED TO ALSO MAYBE GET
THESE. ITEMS TO SURVIVE. I'M
JUST I'M CURIOUS WELL- JUST COME
IN AND YOU AT ALL OF THAT WE
HAVE AN APPROPRIATION TO COVER
THAT'S A POINT THAT. WE
SHOULDN'T. WE SHOULDN'T WITH
THESE ARE IMPORTANT THINGS TO
FINE BUT WE SHOULD FUNDING ON
THE BACKS OF. THE FAMILIES OF
INCARCERATED A CALIFORNIA SO WE
WANT TO FIND IT OUT OF THE
BUDGET IS DIRECTLY ITSELF. YEAH
WE'RE IN COLD WITH- ORGANIZED.
INCLUDING FORMALLY. FOLKS WHO
ARE PROVIDING THESE IN PRISON
PROGRAMS WE BELIEVE AND ON THE
IMPORTANCE OF THESE
REHABILITATIVE IN PRISON
PROGRAMS AND ALL WE TALK TO
THOSE COALITIONS AND
ORGANIZATIONS WHO ARE RECEIVING
FUNDING- AND THEY HAVE NAMES WAS
THAT THEY ALSO BELIEVE THAT THE-
IT'S NOT RIGHT FOR THAT MONEY TO
BE COMING FROM INCARCERATED
FOLKS AND THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS
IT SHOULD BE COMING FROM THE
GENERAL FUND- AND- YES. THANK
YOU I'LL BE SUPPORTING THIS I
WAS JUST CURIOUS I DIDN'T I
DIDN'T WANT TO HURT ANOTHER
PROGRAM SURE MY OTHER COMMITTEE
MEMBERS DONUTS. AS EARLY THANK
YOU ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU ANY
OTHER. YOU MAY CLOSE TO BACK.
THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION AND
AN- AND THIS- HE KNOW WE HAVE A
THE PRISON BUDGET TODAY AS IT
WAS ROUGH. FOURTEEN FIFTEEN
BILLION DOLLARS AND WE BELIEVE
WE CAN BE ABLE TO FIND THIS.
THAT THE MONEY TO COVER THIS
WITHOUT- CAUSING ADDITIONAL DEBT
BURDENS AND HARDSHIP ON THE
FAMILY SOME CURSORY
CALIFORNIANS. AND WITH THAT
RESPECTFULLY ASK DR VOTE. THANK
YOU I BELIEVE. WE HAVE A- WE
HAVE A CORE. YES WE HAVE A
QUORUM. LETTUCES STEPS CORPS OF
SHARK WITH VOTE. JONES SAWYER
HERE ALANIZ HERE. BONTA BRIAN.
LACKEY HERE OR TAKE. SANTIAGO
JACKSON. CLOSE PRESIDENT
ELECTRICAL TO MENTION THAT THIS
MEMBER. HERE SUBSTITUTING FOR
MEMBER OF OUR- TO YOU- THANK THE
IS THERE A MOTION. THIS MOTION
OF PART OF. FIRST AND SECOND- SO
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING I KNOW
THE LOCAL LEVEL THE JAIL THAT WE
WERE WE WERE AT. THE FUNDS
WEREN'T THIS SPENT ON THE IN IN
JAIL. AND- GROUP IN SOME SOME
TRUE THAT WERE DONE WITH OUR
LITTLE SO MAKING SURE THAT THESE
- ARE OVER. IS IT REALLY
IMPORTANT BUT MOST IMPORTANT.
AND I SAID BUT THE QUESTION THAT
THE ASSEMBLY I THINK IT'S
APROPOS THAT MAKE SURE THOSE FOR
GO. TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE
SPENDING THE MONEY SO. WITH THAT
CHIU FRIEDMAN AYE VOTE CALL. ON
S. B. SEVENTY FOUR BY C. BACK
THE MEASURE IS TO PAY TO THE-
COMMITTEE JOE SAWYER HI GENSER I
ALANIZ. ALANIZ I BONTA. RYAN
LACKEY I LACKEY I OR TAKE. OR I
SANTIAGO. JACK'S JACKSON I. THAT
MEASURE PASSES THANK YOU-
MISTAKES. SENATOR.
SB. FOUR TWO. IN THE MORNING
ITEM NUMBER. WHATEVER YOU READY
OKAY THANK YOU A GOOD MORNING.
THANK YOU MISS CHAIR MEMBER. SB
FOUR FIVE TWO PROHIBITS THIS OR
OF SEMI PISTOL IS MADE JULY TWO
TWENTY SO AND LESS IT IS BEEN
VERY AS A MICRO STAMPING PISTOL
IN TWENTY TWENTY ONE ONLY 40% OF
GUN CRIMES IN CALIFORNIA WERE
SOLVED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT THE
MAJORITY OF HOMICIDES REMAIN
UNSOLVED MICROSEMI WILL ALLOW
LAW ENFORCEMENT TO MORE
EFFECTIVELY IDENTIFY AND TRACE.
GUN CRIMES THROUGH INTENTIONAL
MARKINGS THE CALIFORNIA
LEGISLATURE PASSED MICROGAMING
REQUIREMENTS IN TWO THOUSAND
SEVEN BUT THE FIRE ARM INDUSTRY
HAS BEEN RETICENT TO EMBRACE
THIS SB FOUR FIVE TWO INSURERS
THIS TECHNOLOGY IS INCORPORATED
INTO GUNS MANUFACTURED ON OR
AFTER JULY TWENTY TWENTY SEVEN.
THIS BILL IS COSPONSORED BY
GOVERNOR NEWSOM THE BRADY
CAMPAIGN AND MOMS DEMAND ACTION
AND HERE WITH ME IN SUPPORT I
HAVE TONYA SCHWARTZ WHO'S THE
SENIOR COUNSEL AND DIRECTOR OF
STATE AND FEDERAL POLICY FOR
BRADY. THANK YOU THANK YOU YOU
HAVE A FIVE MINUTE. GOOD MORNING
MY NAME IS TANYA CHARDON SENIOR
COUNSEL AND DIRECTOR OF STATE
AND FEDERAL POLICY OF BRADY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY IN
SUPPORT OF SB FOUR FIVE TWO.
MICROSEMI TECHNOLOGY UTILIZES
LASERS TO ENGRAVE MARKINGS ON
THE FIRING PIN OF A FIREARM.
WHEN I GOT INSPIRED THESE
MARKINGS ARE STAMPED ON THE
CARTRIDGE I WANNA CARTRIDGES
RECOVERED AT A CRIME SCENE LAW
ENFORCEMENT HAS ACCESS TO THE
MAKE. MODEL AND OTHER
IDENTIFYING INFORMATION ABOUT
THE GUN. IN TWO THOUSAND SEVEN
CALIFORNIA MADE A FORWARD
THINKING DECISION TO INVEST IN
MICROGAMING. A TOOL THAT IF
IMPLEMENTED WOULD INCREASE
COMMUNITY TRUST IN LAW
ENFORCEMENT BY RELYING ON A TOOL
THAT DOES NOT INFRINGE ON
PRIVACY RIGHTS UNLIKE SOME VIDEO
AND AUDIO SURVEILLANCE SYSTEMS.
AND WHICH ALLOWS LAW ENFORCEMENT
TO RELY ON OBJECTIVE DATA FOR
EVIDENCE AS OPPOSED TO MORE
BIASED ALTERNATIVES. IMPORTANTLY
THIS TOOLS AVAILABLE IT'S
RELIABLE FEASIBLE AND
INEXPENSIVE. AND YET WELL
MICROGAMING HAS BEEN THE LAW
CALIFORNIA FOR SOME TIME. AND
THE INDUSTRY HAS ADMITTED THAT
THEY CAN DO IT THE INDUSTRY IS
FUNCTIONALLY BOYCOTTED THE
IMPLEMENTATION OF THE
TECHNOLOGY. APPS THEY DO NOT
HAVE AN INTO IN LEADING LONG. OR
PERHAPS THE NOT HAVE AN INTEREST
IN PREVENTING CRIME. OR PERHAPS
THEY DO NOT WANT TRANSPARENCY
REGARDING THE SOURCE OF CRIME
GUNS. UNFORTUNATELY WITHOUT THIS
TOOL MOST SHOOTINGS GO UNSOLVED
ENCOURAGING CYCLES OF
RETALIATORY VIOLENCE AND
DISTRUST IN LAW ENFORCEMENT.
THIS IS EVEN MORE TRUE IN
COMMUNITIES OF COLOR A YEAR LONG
INVESTIGATION BASED ON DATA TEAM
FROM TWENTY TWO CITIES. SO THAT
LAW ENFORCEMENT CLEARANCE RATE
FOR CRIMES WHEN THEY INVOLVED A
VICTIM OF COLOR WAS ONLY 21% OF
FOR FIREARMS ASSAULT. VERSUS 37%
FOR WHITE VICTIMS. SB FOUR FIVE
TWO IS AN INNOVATIVE PIECE OF
LEGISLATION THAT WILL WORK TO
ENSURE MY PERCENT GUNS ARE
FINALLY INTRODUCED INTO THE
GOLDEN STATE. THIS BILL WILL DO
SO BY CRAIG CREATING THREE
PATHWAYS FOR THE TECHNOLOGY TO
BE INCORPORATED. THROUGH GUN
MANUFACTURERS IF THEY CHOOSE TO
FINALLY IMPLEMENT THIS
TECHNOLOGY. THROUGH STATE
LICENSED VENDORS AND
ALTERNATIVELY THROUGH THE
CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF
JUSTICE. LONG TERM THIS WILL
HELP STATE LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT
SOLVE CRIMES BREAK CYCLES OF GUN
TRAFFICKING AND INCREASED LAW
TRUST IN LAW ENFORCEMENT. LONG
TERM THIS WILL REDUCE GUN
VIOLENCE. THANK YOU SO MUCH OF
SENATOR BLAKE SPIRIT ALL THE
BILL'S SPONSORS FOR THEIR STRONG
LEADERSHIP ON THIS BILL. AND TO
THE COMMITTEE I URGE YOU TO VOTE
IN SUPPORT OF THIS BILL THANK
YOU. THANK YOU- ANY OTHER
WITNESSES. NOW OKAY THANK YOU-
ANYONE ELSE IN SUPPORT. NAME IN
ORDER TO. MY NAME IS LIZ RUSSELL
AND I'M APPALLING. WITH MOMS
DEMAND ACTION ENOUGH CAL. I AM
SERVED OF GUN VIOLENCE- AND I
URGE YOU TO SUPPORT ASK FORTY
TWO THANKS. THANK YOU. HI AND
ARENA I'M- AT MY MAY NOT AND I.
THIS BILL. THANK YOU. JOING KING
BALL MOM DEMAND ACTION NICE THIS
. I'M A LEADER. VON FROM DEMAND
. AND I SUPPORT THIS BILL CLICK
. MARLENA OF EVERY TOWN FOR GUN
SAFETY IN SUPPORT. JULIE CHAPMAN
VOLUNTEER WITH MOMS DEMAND
ACTION AND SUPPORT THE- CONNIE
CAMPBELL MOMS DEMAND ACTION IN
SUPPORT. YOUR DIGITAL MOMS
DEMAND ACTION AND A SPORT.
SCHEURING MILES VOLUNTEER WITH
MOMS DEMAND ACTION AND I'M IN
SUPPORT THANK YOU. MARY LOU
ROSATO VOLUNTEER WITH MOMS
DEMAND ACTION FORMER PEACE
OFFICER IN SUPPORT. RIGID
JACOBOWITZ WITH MOMS DEMAND
ACTION IN SUPPORT. CLLR SENCHA
IN HONOR OF MY SON COMMINGLED
KILLED BY SENSELESS GUN VIOLENCE
THEY SUPPORT THANK YOU. MY NAME
IS LESLIE LIMON VOLUNTEER WITH
MOMS DEMAND ACTION AND I SUPPORT
. DANONE'S SAN DIEGO DEPUTY
DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S ASSOCIATION
SAN DIEGANS AGAINST CRIME AND
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. LARTIGUE
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION. GOOD
MORNING THIS IS ALSO. MORE
MATURE MEMBERS COURCELLES A
LITTLE WE HAVE TO CALIFORNIA
STATE SHERIFFS ASSOCIATION- IN
OPPOSITION TO US BEFORE FIFTY
TWO- AS THE WITNESS STATED THE
TECHNOLOGY IS JUST NOT
AVAILABLE- IN ANY MEANINGFUL
FORM- YOUR RESPECTIVE OF WHY OR
WHO HAS CHOSEN NOT TO MAKE IT
AVAILABLE THAT'S SORT OF AN
IMMUTABLE REALITY AS WE SIT
TODAY AND- UNCLEAR THAT WILL
CHANGE BY THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF
THIS BILL. THE WAY THE BILL'S
WRITTEN- IT WOULD LIMIT LAW
ENFORCEMENT'S ABILITY THERE'S NO
LAW ENFORCEMENT EXCEPTION- IT
WOULD LIMIT OUR ABILITY TO
ACQUIRE NEW FIREARMS UNLESS
THEY'RE MANUFACTURED PRIOR TO
THE BILL'S EFFECTIVE DATES OR
EFFECTIVELY BUILDING AND A
REQUIREMENT THAT NGUYEN FOR
WHATEVER REASON A LAW
ENFORCEMENT AGENCY HAS ACQUIRED
A PLATFORM. WHERE THE GUNS ARE
OUTDATED OR WE JUST NEED NEW
ONES ARE DIFFERENT ONES- THERE
WERE GONNA BE IN THIS BOX OF
ONLY BE ABLE TO YOU BEING ABLE
TO USE THINGS THAT WERE
MANUFACTURED BEFORE THE
EFFECTIVE DATE IF THERE ARE NO
GUNS- WITH. THE MICRO STAMPING
TECHNOLOGY AVAILABLE- THIS IS
ALL RIGHT UP THE NC HANDGUN ACT
PENDING WITH THE THAT'S BEEN I
MEAN THIS IS AS THE WITNESS AND
AUTHOR OF THIS IS. ON THE BOOKS
AND SOME FOR OR FASHION FOR THE
BETTER PART OF TWO DECADES AND
CAL- AND WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THERE
YET THERE WAS A BILL LAST
SESSION THAT ATTEMPTED TO USE
LAW ENFORCEMENT AS SORT OF A
PROUD TO THE INDUSTRY TO
PRODUCE- AND TO MAKE AVAILABLE
GUNS THAT ARE MICROCHIPPING-
ENABLED. AND- THAT THAT DID NOT
MAKE IT THROUGH- WE THINK THIS
HAMPERS LAW ENFORCEMENT'S
ABILITY TO ACQUIRE THE RESOURCES
IT NEEDS. TO DO THEIR JOBS- THE
PERFORMANCE THE FARM IS NOT ONLY
CRUCIAL FOR ENFORCEMENT AGENCY
IN PEACE OFFICER BUT- DIFFERENT
PERFORMANCE CHARACTERISTICS-
MAYBE FAVOR BY SOME AGENCIES
OVER THE OTHERS THIS IS
IMPORTANT CONSIDERING. WHETHER
OR NOT SUFFICIENT CHOICES WILL
EXIST IN THE MARKET- BY THE TIME
THE BILL TAKES EFFECT. AND EVEN
MORE IMPORTANT GIVEN THE HISTORY
RELATED MICROCHIP REQUIREMENTS
SO FOR THESE REASONS
RESPECTFULLY ONE OPPOSITION. THE
BILL THANK YOU THANK YOU. MAJOR
RETRY. A GOOD MORNING TALK OF
YOU I'M WITH THE C. R.
CALIFORNIA AND THE NATIONAL
RIGHT SO- OPPOSING THIS BILL A
FEW. BOB WE WANT TO SEE FIREARMS
. BUT THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS ON
TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY ON THE-
UNDERSTANDS. WINDOWS IS DONE IS
ONLY. THE SEMI AUTOMATIC. AND
WINDOWS CASING WITHOUT. FALL TO
THE FLOOR. DEBATE TO RAIN KNOWS
THAT ARE REALLY AVAILABLE ANYONE
TO PICK UP. AND MARK IS BECAUSE
WE HAVE PEOPLE TO GO THERE DON'T
PICK UP THEIR OWN BROWN ANYBODY
COULD PICK UP BROWN STRUCK YOU
NEED SCENE AND IT'S GOING TO
BINGO PER. FOR BEING AT THE
CRIME SCENE EVEN THOUGH THEY
WEREN'T THERE. WE KNOW THE P. IN
CRIMES FAMILIES GAIN OTHERS.
FIND WAYS TO COVER THEIR OWN AND
THE IS PART TO BE THAT NEVER
EXISTED BEFORE. WE'RE GONNA BE
BACK IN HIS CHAIR ARE ABOUT NEW
LOW. THE NEW TO BE OUT WHICH IS
GONNA FURTHER IT SO PEOPLE FLAT
OUT DON'T GO RANGE THEY DON'T GO
TO THE RANGE THERE MANY TEAMS
SETS THAT KEEPS SAY. AND SO THIS
BODY LEGISLATORS TRYING TO LOOK
FOR. AND TO SEE TO BECOME SAFER
AND MORE FOR. THIS IS GONNA GO
ON THE RIVER OF THAT SECONDLY IN
BOWLING B. BOND. OUR OWN
ATTORNEY DID NOT. THAT THE
STAMPING BACK OUT WITHOUT OF THE
AND NOT THAT.
OPPOSITION YES SIR. THANK YOU
CHAIR MEMBERS COMMITTEE FOR THE
RECORD MY NAME IS MICHAEL FINLEY
DIRECTOR OF GOVERNMENT RELATIONS
FOR THE NATIONAL SHOOTING SPORTS
FOUNDATION WE ARE THE NATIONAL
TRADE ASSOCIATION FOR AMERICA'S
FIREARM MANUFACTURERS RETAILERS
AND RANGES. OUR NAME WAS INVOKED
A COUPLE TIMES WITHIN THE
TESTIMONY AND I WOULD SAY THIS
THAT. THE TECHNOLOGY SIMPLY DOES
NOT EXIST AS IT WAS- AS IT WAS
PORTRAYED. BY THE PROPONENTS OF
THIS BILL. IT'S A FREE MARKET
SYSTEM. IF ANY OF THAT
TECHNOLOGY WAS FEASIBLE RIGHT
NOW. ANY MANUFACTURER COULD DO
IT. AND PROFIT FROM THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA IT SIMPLY DOES NOT
EXIST IN FACT THERE IS A UC
DAVIS STUDY WITHIN LAST DECADE
THAT SHOWED THAT IT WAS EASILY
TO FETAL. AND THAT. THE
TECHNOLOGY IS NOT READY- ANOTHER
THING THAT I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT
IS THERE ARE VERY VERY.
CONSIDERABLE LEGAL ISSUES WITH
THIS BILL IS A SINGLE SOURCING
COVERED BY A PATENT. AND IT IS
STILL CURRENTLY HELD BY IT- THE
GENTLEMAN AND THE EAST COAST IN
CONNECTICUT NAMED TODDLERS OUGHT
SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT I WOULD
BRING THE COMMITTEE EVEN IF.
SOMEBODY WANTED A COMPANY WANTED
TO DO SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO DEAL
WITH THAT PAT AND SHE'S ON THAT
ONE- FOR THOSE REASONS WE ARE
STRONGLY AGAINST THIS BILL. IT
DOES NOT THE TECHNOLOGY SIMPLY
JUST DOES NOT EXIST WHAT YOU
WOULD DO IS YOU WOULD. ELIMINATE
THE ABILITY FOR US TO SELL
FIREARMS WITHIN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA FOR BOTH LAW
ENFORCEMENT FOR. CITIZENS TRYING
TO EXERCISE THEIR SECOND RUNNER
RIGHTS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR
YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. ANY OTHERS
IN OPPOSITION. WE'LL BRING A TO
THE COMMITTEE FOR COMMENTS OR
QUESTIONS. MISTER TAYLOR- FIRST
OF ALL THANK YOU FOR BRINGING
THIS BILL FORWARD I THINK IT'S A
GREAT STEP. AND OUR OVERALL GOAL
TO NOT JUST CONTINUE TO PROVIDE
THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS TO FAMILIES
BUT ACTUAL CONCRETE TOOLS. AND
LEGISLATION ARE THEY WILL. YOU
KNOW GET TO REAL ACTION I DO
WANNA ASK THAT THEY KEEP
MENTIONING THIS. TECHNOLOGY DOES
NOT EXIST I DO MY ANSWERING OR
ARE PLANNING RESPONDING TO THAT
SURE ABSOLUTELY TECHNOLOGY DOES
EXIST IN FACT INDUSTRIES
ADMITTED IN A LAWSUIT THAT THEY
CAN DO THIS THEY JUST HAVE BEEN
UNWILLING TO COMPLY BECAUSE THEY
HAVEN'T HAD. AN OBLIGATION TO DO
THAT I ALSO KNOW THAT IT'S NOT
AN UNENCUMBERED IT IS
UNENCUMBERED BY PATENT IS NOT
TIED UP IN ANY PATENT ISSUES IT
IS FREELY AVAILABLE FOR EVERYONE
TO USE. THIS BILL CREATES OFFICE
OPPORTUNITY FOR DOJ TO ESTABLISH
STANDARDS THAT WILL BE USED
WITHIN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
AND FINALLY THIS IS A CREATING
AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE THERE WILL
BE GUNS FOR SALE BECAUSE IT'S
CREATING THREE PATHWAYS FOR
FIREARMS TO BE MICRO STAMPED. IF
THE INDUSTRY REFUSES TO COMPLY
AND PROVIDE IN THE MANUFACTURERS
DO NOT WANT TO SELL. MY PERCENT
GUNS TO THE DEALERS THE DEALERS
WILL HAVE TWO OPTIONS WILL BE
ABLE TO GO TO LICENSEES WITHIN
THE STATE TO GET THE GUN
MANUFACTURER OR THEY'LL BE ABLE
TO GO DIRECTLY TO THE DEPARTMENT
OF JUSTICE. THIS IS BECAUSE WE
BELIEVE THAT THE INDUSTRY WILL
CONTINUE TO BOYCOTT THIS. WE
BELIEVE IN THE TECHNOLOGY. IT IS
SUCCESSFUL 90% OF THE TIMES
WHERE THE CURRENT TECHNOLOGY IS
ONLY SUCCESSFUL ONE POINT FIVE.
PERCENT OF THE TIME IN TERMS OF
IDENTIFYING. THE FIREARM USED IN
A CRIME USING CASING- THE LAST
THING I'LL MENTION IS WHEN YOU
TALK ABOUT SHOWCASING THE PEOPLE
. PICKING THEM UP AND TAKING
THEM TO A CRIME SCENE. CASINGS
ARE ALL USED LONG FOR. THAT A
HAPPEN NOW. NO REASON TO BELIEVE
THAT WOULDN'T HAPPEN. YOU KNOW
IN THE FUTURE OF MICROSEMI
TECHNOLOGY WAS UTILIZED THANK
YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. MISTER
SO THIS TECHNOLOGY THAT DOES
EXIST I HAVE NEVER SEEN IT HAVE
YOU. SEEN IT ACTUALLY PERSONALLY
DO WE HAVE ANY EXAMPLES OR CAN
YOU SHOW US ANYTHING ABSOLUTELY
WE DID ACTUALLY- A DEMONSTRATION
IN NEW JERSEY I'M HAPPY TO SHARE
THE U. TWO VIDEO WITH YOU. WITH
YOU LAW ENFORCEMENT WAS THERE
THEY WERE ABLE TO SEE A CASE AND
DROPPED TO THE FLOOR. AND THEN
THAT CASING USED TO TRACE A
FIREARM IMMEDIATELY. I DON'T
KNOW THAT THAT WAS A FIREARM
THAT HAVE BEEN MICRO STAMPS
ALMOST A DECADE AGO. AND IT
STILL WORKED PERFECTLY. OKAY IN
THE AT THE WAY THEY IDENTIFY THE
MICRO STAMPINGS ARE LIKE SOME
KIND OF LIKE. YOU KNOW LIKE WHEN
DOGS GET CHIPPED OR SOMETHING
LIKE THAT OR SOMETHING THAT. TO
DO THAT OR IS IT SOMETHING THAT
COULD BE DONE WITH THE NAKED EYE
IS THIS SOMETHING THAT-
DEPARTMENTS HAVE TO BUY. SO THE
DEPARTMENT WILL HAVE TO BE
UTILIZED TECHNOLOGY BUT AGAIN I
THINK THIS IS TECHNOLOGY THEY'RE
ALREADY USING AS PART AND I'VE
BEEN STILL NEED A MICROSCOPE.
THE MICROCHIP IN PANEL IMPRINT
ON THE CASING A CODE. THAT WILL
ALLOW THEM TO THEN TRACED THE
FIRE IN THE SAME WAY THAT THEY
TRACE A FIREARM THAT'S
RECOVERING CRIME. UNFORTUNATELY
MOST THE TIME FARMS ARE NOT LEFT
THE CRIME SCENE BUT CASINGS ARE
SO THIS IS A HUGE. TOOL FOR LAW
ENFORCEMENT TO BE ABLE TO SOLVE
CRIMES- IN THE SPACE THAT THEY
HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO DO BEFORE.
FOR FIREARM TO RADIO. HOW DO WE-
HOW. IS IT FOR TO HAVE TAKEN.
APPLY TO THIS GUYS. SO REMOVING
REPLACE A FIREARM MAKE FIRING IS
NOT- SOMETHING THAT I THINK A
LAY PERSON COULD DO WHICH IS
PART OF THE REASON I THINK
MICROSECOND FIRING PIN SYSTEM.
IS IMPORTANT AND IT CAN'T BE
UNDONE THAT EASILY. THIS BILL
IS. PROACTIVE SO IT'LL BE FOR
ANY FIREARMS MANUFACTURED AFTER
A CERTAIN DATE. AND EVENTUALLY
THE IDEAS IS THAT- YOU KNOW WITH
TIME. MOST OR ALL OF THE
FIREARMS. ARE HANDGUNS WILL BE
MY PERCENT IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA. BUT IT DOES NOT
APPLY TO RICK RETROACTIVELY TO
FIREARMS THAT ARE ALREADY IN
CIRCULATION. AND FOR A
OPPOSITION YOU GUYS HAVE A
RESPONSE FOR THAT AT ALL. THANK
YOU THROUGH THE CHURCH. OF THIS.
I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THE YOU
KNOW THAT THAT THE TECHNOLOGY-
IS. AVAILABLE BUT THE- THE- THE
REALITY IS AND FOR WHATEVER
REASON. POLICY ECONOMICS
WHATEVER. THAT THE INDUSTRY HAS
NOT. CHOSEN TO ADOPT THIS. AND
SO. AS A PRACTICAL MATTER LAW
ENFORCEMENT AS YOU WELL KNOW.
THESE TOOLS TO DO ITS JOB. THE
VEHICLES. A NEW CAR THEY NEED.
FIREARMS HANDCUFFS UNIFORMS
THINGS LIKE THAT. THIS IS
EFFECTIVELY SAYING IN IN ONE
PART. THIS IS NOT JUST A LAW
ENFORCEMENT BILL BUT THIS IS
SAYING. YOU TO USE SOMETHING
THAT CURRENTLY ISN'T AVAILABLE
IN THE MARKET PLACE. YOUR
RESPECTIVE OF THE REASON IS NOT
AVAILABLE. SEXING YOU NEED TO
DRIVE A BLUE CAR AND THERE ARE
NO CARS FOR SALE. AND SO BY
PUTTING THAT THE STATUTE TO
CREATE A SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE
THE ON THE BILL INABILITY. TO
HAVE THE TOOLS TO DO OUR JOB.
THAT THAT THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE
FOR CSA. THANK YOU IT. YEAH THIS
SO- WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO THE
PROPONENTS OF THE BILL. IT'S
LIKE YOU ON MOSQUE HE HAS A SEMI
CAR- SEMI- LET'S TRY IT ELECTRIC
SEMI TRUCK RIGHT NOW RIGHT. BUT
CAN IT CARRY THE PAYLOAD THAT
IT'S NEEDED. NOW BUT YEAH YOU
CAN BUILD ONE AND IN A
DEMONSTRATION YOU CAN MAKE IT
LOOK GOOD. BUT OVER TIME. AND
THROUGH TESTING. AND THROUGH
WEAR AND TEAR AND THE CRITERIA
THAT IS PUT IN THE BILL CAN THE
TECHNOLOGY WAS STANDING NOW YOU
CAN MAKE ANYTHING DO SOMETHING
ONE TIME. BUT THE CRITERIA OF
THE BILL IS TO SAY HEY THIS
TECHNOLOGY NEEDS TO BE
IMPLEMENTED IT NEEDS TO BE
RELIABLE IT NEEDS TO. DO THE
FUNCTION PRETTY MUCH EVERY
SINGLE TIME THAT YOU PULL THE
TRIGGER WITH THAT SIMPLY DOES
NOT EXIST THE UC DAVIS STUDY IS
PRETTY CONCLUSIVE ON THAT ON A
RELIABLE RIGHT. MARKINGS ARE
HALF MARKINGS ON IT IN OUR
WRITTEN TESTIMONY PROVIDED
EXAMPLES PICTURES OF THE STUDY
AND IT'S UC DAVIS IT'S NOT
INDUSTRY THAT DID THIS
INDEPENDENT OF THIS. SO AS MUCH
AS BRADY AND GIFFORDS LIKE TO
COME UP AND SAY THE TECHNOLOGY
DOES EXIST. YEAH I GUESS YOU CAN
MAKE A FLYING CAR EXIST RIGHT
BUT MANDATING THAT EVERYBODY USE
A FLYING CAR RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST
THAT TECHNOLOGY QUITE FRANKLY
DOES NOT EXIST RIGHT NOW. TO USE
IT ON A MASS PRODUCTION BASIS
AND THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE ARE
RIGHT NOW WITH THAT AND ANOTHER
THING THAT I WOULD SAY TO THAT
IS. YEAH THE PATENT WE- THERE IS
A PROFIT SO IT'S GOING TO
INCREASE THE COST OF EVERY
FIREARM. SO ANY BODY
PARTICIPATING OR ANYBODY
EXERCISING THEIR SECOND MEMBER
RIGHTS IS GOING TO HAVE TO SPEND
MORE LAW ENFORCEMENT IS GOING TO
SPEND MORE. ON EVERY AMMUNITION
THAT THEY BUY EVERY FIREARM THAT
THEY PURCHASE AND IT'S GOING TO
BE A REALLY BIG ADDED COST AND
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DIDN'T
BRING AS WELL. THANK YOU GOOD MR
TAGO. ONE OKAY. GOOD GOOD.
WITHOUT DUE RESPECT TO THE-
SENATE- JUST BROKE. IF THE LAND
MASS CAN SEND HIMSELF TO SPACE.
I THINK WE CAN FIGURE OUT A WAY
TO MAKE THIS WORK. AND IT JUST.
AT WHERE IN CALIFORNIA. WE ARE.
THE INNOVATION STATE OF THE
WORLD. SO THAT'S THE ARGUMENT
THAT. THIS TECHNOLOGY DOES NOT
EXIST OR IS NOT POSSIBLE A WILL
NOT WORK IF WE DON'T TRY IT I
JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND IT. AND
AGAIN. IF YOU'RE GOING TO USE IT
ON MY DESK AS AN EXAMPLE HE CAN
SET HIMSELF TO SPACE I THINK WE
CAN DO THIS. THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA THANK YOU. THE OTHER
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. SO YOU
MAY CLOSE AND WHAT WHAT I WOULD
ASK BECAUSE I. THINK WE ALL HAVE
A CONCERN ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT
LAW ENFORCEMENT WILL BE ABLE TO
GET THEIR HANDS ON WHATEVER.
EQUIPMENT THEY NEED TO BE ABLE
TO DO THEIR JOBS I THOUGHT YOU
MENTIONED THAT IF YOU NEEDED TO.
OBTAIN CERTAIN- WITNESS YOU CAN
GET IT TO THE DEPARTMENT OF
JUSTICE I THINK THE CALIFORNIA
DEPARTMENT JUSTICE. SO OFTEN IT
EITHER IN YOUR CLOSING IF YOU
CAN ADDRESS THAT BECAUSE
OBVIOUSLY THAT IS A REAL.
CONCERN THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT
LAW ENFORCEMENT HAS THE TOOLS
THEY NEED TO COMBAT. CRIME
CALIFORNIA YES THAT THANK YOU
SURE I'D JUST LIKE TO ADDRESS
SOME OF THE POINTS AS WELL- SO
WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO THE
OPPONENTS I THINK THERE IS A BIT
OF HYPERBOLE THAT IS COMING INTO
THESE ARGUMENTS AGAINST IT THIS.
THIS TECHNOLOGY IS NOT LIKE A
FLYING CAR YOU KNOW THIS THIS IS
ALL OF THE- ALL OF THE
REQUIREMENTS FOUR PISTOLS
SEMIAUTOMATIC PISTOLS ARE MADE
AFTER JULY TWENTY TWENTY SEVEN
THAT'S FOUR YEARS FROM NOW. SO
EVERY GUN EVERY- A PIECE OF THE
LAW ENFORCEMENT MATERIAL THAT
THEY CURRENTLY ARE USING WILL
STILL BE IN USE IT'S NOT AS IF
WE'RE TAKING AWAY THE GUNS THAT
LAW ENFORCEMENT IS ALREADY
USING. AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT
THERE'S ANY WORLD WHERE LAW
ENFORCEMENT DOES NOT HAVE GUNS
SO THIS IS JUST IT'S JUST NOT A
REALITY THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE
HAVING OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT
DEPARTMENTS NOT HAVING. THE GUNS
AND THE PISTOLS THAT THEY NEED
TO BE ABLE TO DO THEIR JOBS SO
IT'S IMPORTANT TO JUST RECOGNIZE
THAT I THINK THAT THAT THAT.
THAT THAT IS JUST WAY OUTSIDE
THE BOUNDS OF ANYTHING THAT
WOULD BE POSSIBLE OR REALISTIC
FOR US TO EXPECT. AND WE SET
GOALS FOR EXIT FOR EXAMPLE ZERO
EMISSION VEHICLES SOLD IN THE
STATE AT A CERTAIN YEAR AND THEN
WE WORK TOWARD THOSE GOALS SO
THIS IS A REALLY VERY VERY.
MODEST AND NOT NEARLY AS
AMBITIOUS AS MANY OF THE OTHER
GOALS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE IN
THE STATE. IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT
TO NOTE THAT THAT LAW
ENFORCEMENT IS SOLVING
INDIVIDUAL CRIMES WHERE THIS
WILL LINK THE GUN TO THE BALL
IT. AND THAT WILL HELP SOLVE AN
INDIVIDUAL CRIME BUT IT WILL
ALSO HELP SOLVE. THESE LARGER
CRIMES OF BEING ABLE TO SAY IF A
LARGE NUMBER OF THE GUNS USED IN
CRIME OR COMING FROM A CERTAIN-
STORE OR DEALER. LAW ENFORCEMENT
WILL BE ABLE TO TRACK THAT BACK
BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THE ARE
MANY GUN MOST GUNS START OUT IN
IN LEGAL OWNERSHIP. AND SO BEING
ABLE TO TRACE TO TRACE GUNS
SALES TO SAY IF THERE IS A LARGE
THERE THERE ARE A LARGE AMOUNT
OF GUNS ARE ENTERING THE
CRIMINAL MARKET FROM A
PARTICULAR STORE. HAVING THE
ABILITY TO TRACE THAT BACK IS
REALLY IMPORTANT. AND I ALSO
JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THIS. THIS
NOTION THAT CASINGS ARE GOING TO
BE SO- SCRAPED UP AT AT AT A
RANGE AND THEN THROWN DOWN AT AT
A SCENE. OF A CRIME IS ALSO A
SIMILARLY SAT REALLY TRULY IS
QUITE ABSURD. LIKE WE CURRENTLY
LAW ENFORCEMENT SOLVES A LOT OF
CRIMES BY FINGERPRINTS. SO DO
PEOPLE GO AND SCRAPE UP- WHAT
WAS IN THE TRASH THAT PEOPLE
TOUCHED- ALL OF THE- THE PAPERS
ON THE NAPKINS IN THE TRASH AND
THROW THEM AT A CRIME SCENE. NO
I MEAN THESE ARE THINGS THAT OF
COURSE THIS CAN HAPPEN ON AN
INDIVIDUAL. AND SOME INDIVIDUAL
CAPACITY BUT THIS IS NOT
SOMETHING THAT IS WIDELY GOING
TO MAKE IT SO THAT. SO THAT LAW
ENFORCEMENT IS SOMEHOW UNABLE TO
SOLVE THESE CRIMES THIS WILL
UNQUESTIONABLY MAKE IT EASIER
FOR THEM TO DO THAT. I THINK
IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT
BECAUSE BECAUSE WE CAN THINK
THAT WORK HEADED OFF INTO THE
WILD WEST HERE BUT REALLY THAT'S
JUST NOT THE CASE- SO. I WANT
TO- JUST THANK THE CHAIR FOR
COMING BACK TO THE NOTION THAT
THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF
JUSTICE WILL BE ABLE TO DO THIS
SO THERE WILL ALWAYS BE. A
MARKET WON'T HAVE TO BE FROM GUN
MANUFACTURERS. THE FACT THAT GUN
MANUFACTURERS. HAVE BEEN
UNWILLING. TO CREATE THIS
DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE SHOULDN'T.
CREATED AN ALTERNATIVE. AND
THAT'S WHY THERE ARE THREE
PASSED CREATING THIS MICRO
STAMPING TECHNOLOGY- SO WITH
THAT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE
THAT MY- THAT YOU DON'T WOULD
YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING ELSE
MY- LEAD WITNESS. NO NO I JUST
WANT TO. DO SO WHICH- OKAY THANK
YOU. SO WITH THAT I RESPECTFULLY
ASK FOR AN AYE VOTE. THANK YOU
AND- AT THIS. IS UP PROBABLY THE
ONLY PERSON ON THIS COMMITTEE-
THAT'S BEEN THE- WITH THIS.
THANK GOD ELECTED IN TWENTY
TWELVE- THINK ABOUT IT. IF WE
HAD HAD THIS IN. IN TWENTY
TWELVE TEN YEARS AGO. ABOUT
MICRO STAMPING. OF WHAT WOULD BE
RIGHT NOW- IF SOMEONE SAID LET'S
NOT USE THE BIG BULKY THINGS.
CALL CELL PHONES THAT WERE IN
THE BRIEFCASE. EVERYBODY IN HERE
WOULD NOT HAVE A CELL PHONE
RIGHT NOW. IS THE TIME WHERE.
MATT KERR MANY FACTORS SAID NO
TO SEAT BELTS. BECAUSE TOO
EXPENSIVE. JUST A PROBLEM SAY WE
CATALYTIC CONVERTERS. THE
TECHNOLOGY AND PUTTING THEM ON
IT WOULD JUST TO CUMBERSOME. AND
LOOK WHAT WE ARE NOW- I KNOW THE
PROBLEM BACK THEN THE SOUTH LIKE
IT IS NOW. THE GUN MANUFACTURERS
JUST REFUSED TO DO MICRO
STABBING THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE.
THEY JUST REFUSED TO DO IT- AND
BLATANT OPPOSITION TO WHAT COULD
BE SOMETHING VERY USEFUL FOR
EVERYBODY- THIS IS NOT A
FUNCTION OF THE- THEY CAN'T DO
IT. DISAGREEABLE DO. AND THAT
THAT'S THE PROBLEM AND SO UP
LIKE YOU SAID SENATOR. WHERE WE
MAKE GOALS ABOUT ZERO EMISSION
IN MAKING A CLEANER ENVIRONMENT-
THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS
WHERE. AT SOME POINT WE'RE GOING
TO HAVE TO JUST SAY LET'S GO
AHEAD AND GET THIS DONE ONCE AND
FOR ALL SO HOPEFULLY. THIS IS
THE BEGINNING OF IT ON THE LIST
HERE IN CALIFORNIA. AND
HOPEFULLY PUT ENOUGH SAFEGUARDS
IN THERE SO THAT. PEOPLE WHO
NEED TO DO THEIR JOB VERY WELL
TO DO IT SO. HERE'S RECOMMENDED
I. MR MOTION. THANK YOU. THE NEW
CALL THE ROLL ON IS THE FOUR
FIFTY SEVEN BY SENATOR BLAKE
SPEIR THE MOTION IS TO PASS THE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE JONES
SAWYER. JONES SAWYER I ALANIZ
ALANIZ NO BONTA. BRIAN LACKEY
LACKEY NO ORTEGA. ORTEGA I
SANTIAGO. JACKSON JACKSON I. YOU
NEED TO MORE TO ON CALL. THANK
YOU SO MUCH THANK YOU. M. WALK.
WELL WE HEAR LIST TO THE CONSENT
CALENDAR FOR MISTER JACKSON
LEAVES- CONCEPTO CALENDAR. I
REMEMBER TWO. S. B. FORTY SIX OF
ROTH CONTROLS TO TREATMENT I
DON'T KNOW BEFORE SIXTY SEVEN C.
ARCO CONTROL SEVEN OVERDOSE
REPORTED I DON'T NUMBER EIGHT SB
NINETY SEVEN WIENER CORAL PER
PROCEDURE WRITTEN A HABEAS
CORPUS. EM NUMBER THIRTEEN SB
TWO EIGHT ONE REQUIRE CRIMES
AGGRAVATED ARSON I DON'T LOOK
FOURTEEN SB THREE OH NINE
CORTESE CORRECTIONAL FACILITIES
RELIGIOUS ACCOMMODATION AND
FINALLY ITEM NUMBER TWENTY SB
FOUR SIX FOUR BOB CRIMINAL LAW
RIGHT TO VICTIMS AND WITNESSES
OF CRIMES. IT'S OUR MOST. IS
THAT. CALL THE ROLL. ON THE
CONSENT CALENDAR JOHN SAWYER I
DON'T SAWYER HI ALLEN. ALANIZ
NINE. BRIAN LACKEY BLACK I
ORTEGA. ORTEGA I THANK YOUNG.
JACKSON JACKSON. CONSENT TELLER
IS A IN MISTER YOU MAY BEGIN
WHENEVER YOU'RE READY. I DIDN'T
TO SEE SO I BE ABLE. SO YOU HAVE
TO. TWO ITEMS YES TWO START WITH
. AND ITEM ONE I NUMBER SIXTY.
TO AN S. B. THREE SIX EIGHT. BUT
YOU'RE READY THANK YOU- THANK
YOU MISTER CHAIRMAN COULD
MEMBERS I'D LIKE TO BEGIN BY
ACCEPTING THE PRO COMMITTEE
MEMBER OUTLAW IN THE IN THE-
THANK YOU FOR WORKING AT
COLLABORATIVELY WITH MY STAFF
AND- FOLKS TO GET US WHERE WE
ARE TODAY. SB TWO WILL IMPLEMENT
VARIOUS IMPROVEMENTS TO THE
CALIFORNIA'S EXISTING CONCEAL
CARRY WEAPONS REGIMES IN
RESPONSE TO THE RECENT UNITED
STATES SUPREME COURT DECISION IN
NEW YORK RIFLE AND PISTOL
ASSOCIATION VERSUS GROWING. I'M
PROUD TO SAY THAT- GOVERNOR
NEWSOM AND ATTORNEY GENERAL
BONTA ARE SPONSORING SB TWO AND
SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING VERY
CLOSELY WITH THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL'S OFFICE. SB TWO HELPS
STRENGTHEN OUR STATE LAW BY
INSURING THOSE CARRYING FIREARMS
IN PUBLIC ARE RESPONSIBLE LAW
ABIDING CITIZENS WHO DO NOT POSE
A DANGER TO THEMSELVES OR OTHERS
LET ME SAY THAT AGAIN I THINK
THAT'S PROBABLY THE MOST
CRITICAL PIECES. FOLKS WILL
COMPLAIN LATER THAT WE ARE GOING
AFTER LAW ABIDING CITIZENS WHAT
WE'RE DOING IS DEFINING. LAW
ABIDING CITIZENS TO MAKE SURE
THAT THERE'S A DISTINCTION
BETWEEN THOSE WHO SHOULD HAVE
GUNS IN THOSE WHO SHOULDN'T HAVE
GUNS AND SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO
MAKE THAT POINT- WE ARE INSURING
THOSE CARRYING FIREARMS IN
PUBLIC ARE RESPONSIBLE LAW
ABIDING CITIZENS. PROTECTING
CHILDREN AND YOUNG ADULTS FROM
GUN VIOLENCE BY SETTING A
MINIMUM AGE REQUIREMENT OF
TWENTY ONE. IT IS NOT PARTISAN
TO SAY YOU HAVE TO BE TWENTY
FIVE TO RENT A CAR. TO ME SAY
THAT AGAIN IT'S NOT PARTISAN TO
SAY YOU HAVE TO BE TWENTY FIVE
TO RENT A CAR. WHY IS IT
PARTISAN TO SAY YOU HAVE TO BE
TWENTY ONE TO PURCHASE A GUN.
THINK ABOUT. ADVANCING SAFETY
THROUGH STRONGER TRAINING
REQUIREMENTS ABOUT THE PROPER
HANDLING LOADING UNLOADING AND
STORAGE OF FIREARMS IMAGINE
THAT. ENSURING TRAINING WE'RE
CREATING SAFEGUARDS THE PUBLIC
FOR THE PUBLIC BY IDENTIFYING
CERTAIN SENSITIVE PLACES WHERE
GUNS MAY NOT BE CARRIED I DON'T
BELIEVE YOU NEED A GUN TO GO TO
YOUR DAUGHTER'S AYSO SOCCER
GAME. ADDITIONALLY S. B. TWO
WILL ALSO PROMOTE DUE PROCESS BY
ALLOWING ANYONE WHOSE
APPLICATION IS DENIED TO RECEIVE
A HEARING BEFORE A JUDGE OF A
SUPERIOR COURT FOR AN ADDITIONAL
LAYER OF REVIEW. THIS NEW
PROCEDURES WILL ENSURE THAT WERE
CONSISTENT WITH THE SUPREME
COURT'S DECISION A BRO BRO. ONLY
LAW ABIDING AND RESPONSIBLE
APPLICANTS FOR CCW LICENSE WILL
BE AUTHORIZED TO RECEIVE ONE.
GUN VIOLENCE INFLICTS A TERRIBLE
TOLL ON OUR COMMUNITIES LAST
YEAR NEARLY TWENTY THOUSAND
PEOPLE WERE KILLED IN GUN
RELATED HOMICIDES IN THE UNITED
STATES. TO PUT THAT IN
PERSPECTIVE IT'S ENOUGH PEOPLE
TO FILL FORTY. WIDEBODY SEVEN
SEVEN SEVEN PLANES AND SADLY THE
NUMBERS KEEP RISING. AND THE PER
IS NOT JUST ILLEGAL GUNS AT
LEAST 76% OF THE GUNS USED IN
MASS SHOOTINGS OVER THE PAST
THIRTY FIVE YEARS. WERE OBTAINED
LEGALLY THERE IS AMPLE EVIDENCE
SHOWING THAT INCREASED PUBLIC
CARRYING OF FIREARMS LEADS TO
MORE VIOLENCE. THE NOTION THAT
HAVING MORE GUNS LEADS TO SAFETY
IS CONTRADICTED BY THE FACTS.
MORE GUNS WE HAVE IN CARRIED IN
PUBLIC IN HOUSES THE MORE YAK WE
HAVE AND THE FACTS BEAR THAT OUT
ANY GUNS INCREASES THE CHANCE
THAT OTHERWISE NON LETHAL
INTERACTIONS SUCH AS ROAD RAGE
IN DISPUTES OVER. TALKING ON A
CELLPHONE AT A MOVIE THEATER
TURNED DEADLY AND MORE PEOPLE
CARRY FIREARMS LEADS TO MORE
DEATHS OF FIREARMS UP 235% MORE
FIREARMS IN PUBLIC PLACES AND
CREATES CHALLENGES FOR LAW
ENFORCEMENT. THE DOJ CONSULTED
WITH PUBLIC SAFETY EXPERTS AND
PROMINENT SCHOLARS ACROSS THE
NATION TO ENSURE THAT THIS
MEASURE IS CONSTITUTIONAL AND
IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE SUPREME
COURT'S GUIDANCE IN BERLIN. SO I
AS YOU CAN TELL I'M PASSIONATE
ABOUT THIS BECAUSE I THINK MANY
OF THE ARGUMENTS OPPOSING THIS
OUR SPEECHES BECAUSE THE FACTS
DATA AND SCIENCE CONTRADICT.
MANY OF THOSE ARGUMENTS SO THIS
MORNING I HAVE HERE TO TESTIFY
LIZ RUSSELL A SURVIVOR OF GUN
VIOLENCE CANDACE CHONG FROM THE
DOJ AND MICHAEL READING IS HERE
FROM THE DOJ TO ANSWER ANY
TECHNICAL QUESTIONS. AND SO WHEN
APPROPRIATELY OBVIOUSLY I'M
GOING TO ASK FOR A STRONG
BIPARTISAN I VOTED ON SB TWO.
THANK YOU SO THE THREE OF YOU
HAVE FIVE MINUTES SO WERE WERE
YOU WANT TO SPLIT IT UP. GO. FOR
THANK YOU ARE MY NAME IS LIZ
ROWE I'M A MOTHER OF AND A HALF
OLD TWIN OF ALL THE LEADER CAL
MOMS TO BE ACTION. AND A SENIOR
SURVIVOR FELLOW WITH FOR SAFETY.
ON THE MORNING OF MARCH NINTH
TWO EIGHTEEN MY LIFE CHANGED
FOREVER. I WAS GATHERED WITH MY
WORK COLLEAGUES AND PROGRAM
RESIDENTS OF THE POST NINE
ELEVEN VETERANS TREATMENT
PROGRAM THAT I WORKED AT FOR A
GOING AWAY PARTY FOR MYSELF AND
A CO WORKER. FIFTEEN MINUTES
INTO THE PARTY A FORMER RESIDENT
WHO HAD BEEN DISMISSED FROM THE
PROGRAM THREE WEEKS PRIOR WALKED
INTO THE ROOM WITH THE THREE OH
EIGHT CALIBER JP ENTERPRISES
LRP- SEVEN SEVEN SEMI AUTOMATIC
RIFLE AND A SHOTGUN. WILL DONATE
YOUR PROTECTION AND I PROTECTION
AND AN EXTRA BANDOLIER OF ARMOR.
AMMO ACROSS HIS CHEST INSTANTLY
I THOUGHT MY LIFE WAS OVER. AND
THAT MY CHILDREN WOULD GROW UP
WITHOUT THEIR MOTHER. I AM
GRATEFUL THAT HE LET MYSELF.
THREE OF MY COLLEAGUES. AND THE
FOR VETERANS IN THE ROOM WITH
THAT DAY. BUT I WILL NEVER GET
OVER HIM KILLING THE THREE
CLINICIANS ONE OF WHOM WAS A
DEAR FRIEND OF MINE WHO WAS SIX
MONTHS PREGNANT AT THE TIME.
BEFORE KILLING HIMSELF. FOR THE
FIRST YEAR AFTER THE SHOOTING
GOING ABOUT MY DAILY LIFE WAS A
STRUGGLE IF YOUR CROWDS IN
PUBLIC PLACES WONDERING IF I
COULD GET AWAY OF THE SHOOTING
HAPPENED. BEING STARTLED BY
SOMEONE UNEXPECTEDLY COMING UP
BEHIND YOU SENT ME INTO A PANIC.
I COULD INTERACT WITH FELLOW
SCHOOL PARENTS OR PEERS OF ANY
KIND IN ALMOST ANY SETTING
BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO GO
ON WITH MY DAILY LIFE. AFTER
LIVING THROUGH SUCH A
TRAUMATIZING TRAGEDY. I AM FAR
FROM ALONE IN HAVING EXPERIENCED
A SHOOTING IN MY WORKPLACE. AND
I'M FAR FROM ALONE IN GROWING
FEAR THAT IT COULD HAPPEN TO
ANYONE OF US. AT ANY TIME WHEN
WE ARE OUT SHOPPING ATTENDING A
CONCERT. PLAYING WITH OUR KIDS
AT THE PARK OR A PLAYGROUND
WE'RE JUST TRYING TO LIVE.
THINGS THAT MY PREGNANT FRIENDS
AND WORK COLLEAGUES CAN NO
LONGER DO BECAUSE OF A GUN. IN A
PLACE THAT DIDN'T BELONG. THE
THOUGHT THAT JUST ABOUT ANYONE
TO BE CARRYING A FIREARM IN
PLACES LIKE THAT BECAUSE OF THE
BROWN DECISION IS NOT FREEDOM.
WE ARE NOT HELPLESS TO STOP THIS
FROM HAPPENING HOWEVER.
CONFINEMENTS IS NOW THE LEADING
CAUSE OF DEATH OF CHILDREN IN
AMERICA AND ALL TOLD WE ARE
LOSING FORTY FIVE THOUSAND
AMERICANS. ANNUALLY TO THIS
PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS. WE MUST DO
EVERYTHING WE CAN TO CHANGE
THAT. SB TWO IS AN IMPORTANT
PART OF THE SOLUTION TO MAKE OUR
OWN STATE SAFER FROM GUN
VIOLENCE. AND I URGE YOU TO
SUPPORT IT TODAY. THREE MINUTES
LEFT. CULT IMPORTANT MESSAGE.
MANY MEMBERS MY NAME IS CANDACE
JOHN I'M A LEGISLATIVE. WITH THE
OFFICE OF ATTORNEY GENERAL ROB
BONTA. MY CLOSEST WE CAN HELP.
THANK YOU. PLEASE PLEASE. BONTA
THIS BILL GOVERNOR GAP. NEWSOM.
AS MENTIONED BY SENATOR. THIS
BILL IS. JUST CALIFORNIA'S.
CARRY WEAPONS LAWS IN OUR- IT'S
- FOR. DECISION ONE. SB TWO WILL
CREE A UNIQUE. STATE STANDARD.
THAT USES CLEAR OBJECTIVE
CRITERIA TO ASSESS APPLICANTS TO
ENSURE THAT CONCEALED CARRY
WEAPONS PERMITS. ARE NOT ISSUED
TO DANGEROUS INDIVIDUALS. JUST
AS IMPORTANT IT SETS OUT GUN
FREE ZONES TO ALLOW CALIFORNIANS
TOGETHER. LEARN AND WORSHIP IN
SAFETY. WITH SB TWO CALIFORNIA
SEEKS TO FOLLOW THE ROADMAP THAT
WAS SET FORTH BY THE- COURT. IT
CONTAINS EVIDENCE BASED
RESTRICTIONS ENDORSED BY
EVERYONE AND BASED ON REAL WORLD
DATA. THIS BILL WASN'T DROPPED
IN IRAQ IT WAS DROP OF THE INPUT
OF A WIDE ARRAY ST HOLDERS
INCLUDING BED BATH. GROUPS LAW
ENFORCEMENT HUNTING CLUBS IN
TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZATIONS.
THE END RESULT WE FEEL STRIKES
APPROPRIATE BALANCE BETWEEN
RESPECTING LAW ABIDING RESIDENTS
RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS. AND
THE PUBLIC EQUALLY WEIGHTY
INTEREST AND HAVING STATE STREET
. LET'S BE CLEAR SB TWO IS ABOUT
THE ABILITY TO CARRY GUNS IN
PUBLIC. SINCE BROUGH AND WE'VE
SEEN A ROUGHLY 40% INCREASE IN
THE NUMBER OF CCW APPLICATIONS.
THAT MEANS MORE GUNS IN GROCERY
STORES MORGENSON CAFES IN THE
MALL. THE TWENTY TWENTY TO STUDY
FOUND THAT RIGHT TO CARRY LAWS
INCREASED FIRE VIOLENT CRIMES
LIKE TWENTY NINE PERCENT. SIMPLY
PUT. MORE GUNS IN MORE PLACES
MEANS MORE PEOPLE WILL DIE AT
THE HANDS OF FIREARMS. THAT'S
UNACCEPTABLE. SB TWO IS A COMMON
SENSE MEASURE TO SAFEGUARD OUR
COMMUNITIES AND I RESPECTFULLY
ASK YOUR I. ABOUT. WITH ME IS
MICHAEL READING WAS A SPECIAL
ASSISTANT ATTORNEY GENERAL WHO
CAN ANSWER ANY TECHNICAL
QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. SO YOUR
NEEDED ACTION. I DON'T EXACTLY
MICHAEL READING ASSISTANT NOT
ELSE OFFER AT THIS TIME EXACTLY
HAPPY ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ALL
RIGHT THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY
OTHER IN SUPPORT. IN THE OTHERS
IN SUPPORT. NAME AN ORGANIZATION
PLEASE. GOOD MORNING TONY SURE
ON BEHALF OF THREE D. IN SUPPORT
THANK YOU THANK. THE MORNING
LAURA ELENA WE HAVE EVERY TIME A
GUN SAFETY IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU
KNOW MOMS DEMAND ACTION
VOLUNTEER IN SPORT. KMART'S
DEMAND ACTION FOR SUPPORT. EMILY
TO BREEZE VOLUNTEER MOSMAN.
SUPPORT. MARY LOU ROSATO
VOLUNTEER MOMS DEMAND ACTION
SUPPORT. JULIE CHAPMAN WITH MOMS
DEMAND ACTION AND ALSO WITH THE
WOMEN DEMOCRATS A SACRAMENTO
COUNTY IN SUPPORT. CONNIE
CAMPBELL MOMS DEMAND ACTION IN
SUPPORT. AND LESLEY LU VOLUNTEER
WITH MOMS DEMAND ACTION NICE.
FOR IM JAHR GIBT ALL VOLUNTEER
WITH MOMS DEMAND ACTION AND A
SUPPORT. SAREMO SMALL INTO WITH
MOMS DEMAND ACTION IN SUPPORT.
CLISSON SHOULD NOT VOLUNTEER
WITH THE EVERYTOWN SURVIVOR
NETWORK MOMS DEMAND ACTION IN
CAMILLUS MOM AND FOR. AND
BRIDGES TO COOPER IT'S VOLUNTEER
WITH MOMS AND ACTION A PUBLIC
SCHOOL TEACHER AND I SUPPORT.
YEAH RUSSOLILLO BEHALF OF THE
COUNTIES CLARA IN THE. ON A AM
COMMUNITIES WITH ANGELES UNIFIED
SCHOOL DISTRICT IN SUPPORT.
GOING BACK IS FOR FRIENDS
LEGISLATION IN SUPPORT. JOINT
FELONY MURDER LIVE PROJECT IN
SUPPORT. JUST K. WITH THE
CALIFORNIA SCHOOL EMPLOYEES
ASSOCIATION PART. NEYMAR
REPRESENTING DIFFERENCE IN
SUPPORT. JOHN COGAN WITH THE
COUNTY OF LOS ANGELES IN SUPPORT
. KILEY SHALL BE ON BEHALF OF
THE CITY OF PALO ALTO IT'S PART
. HE'S REBECA GONZALEZ VOLUNTEER
FOR THE BRADY CAMPAIGN ADS
SACRAMENTO GOLD COUNTRY CHAPTER
IN SUPPORT. OR SO HE DOES HERE
WE HAVE THE CITY OF LOS ANGELES
AND CITY OF SANTA MONICA AND
SUPPORT. ALEXIS RODRIGUEZ OF THE
CALIFORNIA MEDICAL ASSOCIATION
IN SUPPORT. WHERE TOP ON BEHALF
OF THE MAYOR OF SAN DIEGO TODD
GLORIA AND THE SPA CITY COUNCIL
IN SUPPORT. THE CITY AGAIN
PROSECUTORS LOTS CALIFORNIANS
SUPPORT. OKAY RUBIO WITNESSES
SUPPORT ANY WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION. TO ALLOW FOR THEM TO
HAVE A SEAT.
YEAH GOOD. OUR IN REDUCE TALKING
ONLY AFTER STATE SHERIFFS OF
THEY CAME CHAIRMAN. OUT RISK AND
I. TO THE BILL- I THINK A LOT OF
THE SAID I KNOW LOTS BEEN SAID-
IN THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT
QUESTIONS AND THAT CAN BE MADE
ABOUT. YOU KNOW GUNS AND DUNCAN
STRICTLY THIS IS NOT TO MEET A
BROAD QUESTION OF GUN CONTROL
LOOKING AT IS IT IN THIS
CIRCUMSTANCE THE GOVERNMENT
PROCESS OF A PERSON ASKING THE
GOVERNMENT IF THEY CAN CARRY
CONCEALED WEAPON- WHICH IS LAID
OUT THERE'S YOU KNOW. THERE'S
THIS NOTION THAT YOU KNOW YOU
JUST GET A YOU JUST GET A CCW-
THERE HAVE BEEN BACKGROUND
CHECKS AND THERE CONTINUE TO BE
BACKGROUND CHECKS- LAW
ENFORCEMENT IN MOST CASES IT'S
THE SHERIFF'S SOMETIMES IT'S THE
CHIEF OF POLICE BUT IN EVERY
CASE. THE LAW ENFORCEMENT LEADER
PUTS HIS OR HER NAME ON THAT
LICENSE AND SAYS I AM CONFIDENT-
THAT YOU HAVE BEEN TRAINED AND
THAT YOU YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO
EXERCISE YOUR RIGHT TO CARRY
CONCEALED FIREARMS THEY PUT
THEIR NAME ON THAT IF THAT
PERSON THEN DOES SOMETHING IT
COMES BACK ON THAT RIGHT. SO
THEY'RE CAREFUL IN THOSE
EFFORTS- THE ASSERTION THAT MORE
GUNS IN PUBLIC LEAD TO MORE
VIOLENCE IT. TO ME IT DOES NOT
TAKE INTO EFFECT WHO IS CARRYING
THE GUN. IF A PERSON WHO INTENDS
TO BREAK THE LAW WHETHER IT'S TO
SHOOT SOMEONE OR TO ROB A
CONVENIENCE STORE. WITH A GUN OR
WITHOUT AGAIN IS NOT GOING TO GO
TO THEIR LOCAL SHERIFF AND SAFE.
TRIP JONES SAWYER I'M TELLING
YOU THAT I WOULD LIKE TO CARRY A
GUN IN PUBLIC. THEY'RE NOT GOING
TO SAY THEY'RE GOING TO ROB THE
STORE I THINK. BUT THEY'RE
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO SEEK A CCW
DOES JUST THE REALITY OF THE
PEOPLE GOING TO BREAK THE LAW
ARE NOT GOING TO CHOOSE TO
FOLLOW THIS LAW. SIMPLY BECAUSE
THE SUPREME COURT DECIDED
BREWING LAST YEAR- WHEN WE ABOUT
DATA ABOUT SAFETY GUN VIOLENCE
AND THINGS LIKE THAT. ARE THERE
DATA THAT INDICATE THAT. PEOPLE
WHO ARE LICENSED TO CARRY
CONCEALED IN CALIFORNIA. HAVE
COMMITTED OR ARE COMMITTING GUN
CRIMES. WE DON'T HAVE ANY
EVIDENCE OF THAT. IF THERE IS IT
IS SPARSE AT BEST AND WE HAVE
NOT SEEN ANY OF THAT FROM THE
PROPONENTS BUT I THINK WE'VE
WORKED WITH THE PROPONENTS TO
TRY TO- MAKE SOME. REALISTIC
CHANGES TO THE PROPOSED STATUTE-
AND THEY'VE TAKEN SOME OF OUR
CHANGES AND WE APPRECIATE THAT
BUT IN REALITY TO ADDRESS BRUIN
WHICH STRUCK DOWN GOOD CAUSE
REQUIREMENT. A BILL COULD HAVE
BEEN OFFERED THAT JUST SIMPLY
ELIMINATED. THE WORDS COULD COST
EFFECTIVELY I'M I'M EXAGGERATING
A LITTLE BIT ONLY A LITTLE.
THAT'S REALLY ALL IT HAD TO
HAPPEN BECAUSE THAT'S THE
CONSTITUTIONALLY INFIRM PIECE
THERE ARE STILL BACKGROUND
CHECKS. THERE ARE STILL
REQUIREMENTS YOU STILL HAVE TO
TELL LAW ENFORCEMENT WHAT GUNS
YOU'RE GOING TO CARE- THIS RISK
FAILS TO RESOLVE LONG. ISSUES OF
NOT BEING ABLE TO RECORD JOINT
OWNERSHIP. SO IF A PERSON- AND
HER HUSBAND BOTH WANT TO CARRY
CONCEALED AND THEY ONLY-
COLLECTIVELY ON ONE FARM. THEY
CANNOT BOTH CARRY THAT FIREARM
CONCEALED THEY HAVE TO BE STE
SEPARATELY REGISTERED FIREARMS
AND SO THIS WILL IN FACT. CREATE
OR WILL CONTINUE THE
PROLIFERATION OF ADDITIONAL
FIREARMS WHICH THEY DON'T THINK
THIS COMMITTEE WANTS- IN. BEING
ABLE TO CARRY CONCEALED WILL BE
SEVERELY RESTRICTED BY THIS
BILL- AND IN THE INTEREST OF
LETTING OTHER FOLKS SAY I'LL
JUST- AND WITH THAT AND SAY
THAT- WITH MUCH RESPECT WE OFTEN
OPPONENTS WERE PUSHED. GOOD
MORNING SHARE REMEMBERS RICK
TRAVIS ON BEHALF OF C. CALPERS
PISTOLS. GUNNERS ACCOUNT
NATIONAL SAYS. TO THE- COMMENTS
MEANS FOR SB TWO THIS MORNING
THERE ARE A FEW I WOULD OUT. YOU
CAN LOOK TO ACCOUNT SUCH AS
COUNTY THAT WHEN. QUESTIONS FOR
THERE TO TALK. THERE WERE HOME
TWO HOW CC W. IN A THREE MILLION
. MUCH THE RHETORIC THAT HAS
BEEN PUSHED FORWARD THAT MORE
PEOPLE WITH FIRE UNDER A
CONCEALED CARRY PERMIT. THE MORE
CRIMES MORE DAY JUSTICE. WE NOW
ALSO ALMOST TWENTY FOUR THOUSAND
CC. JUST TEN YEARS LATER SHE
CHANGE THE RULES FOR THEIR- AND
YOU KNOW. THERE HAS BEEN NOT
INCREASE IN CRIME. IN FACT THIS
THE HOLDERS IN ORANGE COUNTY OUR
STAMP THE COACH. THE BACKGROUND
THAT. DISCUSSED HAVEN'T THE
CRIMES IN FACT THAT HAS SAID.
IT'S EASY TO HOLDERS THIS. FIRE
ON HOLDERS IN MARS THAN OUR OWN
LONG FORCE. BECAUSE OF THE
TRAINED THEY GO. THEIR THIS IDEA
THAT WE'RE GOING HAPPEN CORRAL
SAID. MISTER SPEAKER BECAUSE
SOMEONE GETS A C. IS COMPLETE
UNFOUNDED. ALL WHEN YOU LOOK AT
THE IDEA OF CREATING. GUN FREE
ZONES WEAKENED BUT TO ALL THE
HEINOUS CRIMES GOING BACK TO
ROAR COLORADO. WHERE THOSE
PEOPLE HAVE TESTIFIED THAT THEY
WANT TO PLACES THAT WERE GUN
FREE ZONES AND YET THE FBI WILL
TAKE OVER THE LAST DECADE THERE
ARE OVER THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND
TIMES. EVERY YEAR THAT SOMEBODY
WITH A FIRE PIT STOP CRIMES NOT
SHOT SOMEBODY NOT A JUST THE
FACT THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO USE
THE FINAL STOP UNTIL LAW
ENFORCEMENT GOT THEIR- LAST
THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND MORE
POTENTIAL LINES AT A MINIMUM.
THEY COULD END UP IN VERY
POSITION WE'RE TRYING TO STOP
WITH. THE LEGISLATION LIKE THIS
FOR THESE REASONS- AND ONE LAST
TO ONLINE FOR. PEOPLE ON I
RESPECT TO BE J. BY YOU KNEW TO
GO TO ONE OF YOUR LINE FOR
AGENTS AND STATE AND NASTY.
WARDENS WARDEN. HOW THE HIGHER
IN A WITH WITH. JUST BY THE NEW
OF THE WORK THAT THEY DO MISS
SPEAKER AND YET. GAME WARDENS
WILL TELL YOU OVER AND OVER I GO
THERE APOSS. THAT LIFE HUNTERS
POACH LIFE HUNDRED WERE FIRE. OR
SOME OF THE SAFEST PEOPLE THE A
WORKER. AND THAT IS A- THAT
DEALS WITH INTER STATE EVERY.
WITH PEOPLE FIRING. AND THAT
DOES NOT COINCIDE WITH SOME WITH
THAT WERE SO. AND OF THIS BILL.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU GENEROUSLY
TO MANY THE RECORD MY IS MICHAEL
FOR THRASH SHOOTING SPORTS
FOUNDATION. I DON'T HAVE ANY
ELSE TO THIS OTHER THAN THE YEAR
IN OPPOSITION THING YOU. IF YOU
ARE THERE ANY OTHERS OP. NAY AN
ORGANIZATION. PLEASE OR
ORGANIZATIONS. ORGANS ACTS
RANGING WITH THE RIVER SO
SHERIFF'S. OPPOSITION ALSO-
ROBSON OPPOSITE TO THE- PLEASE
OFFICERS SEE. OF ARCADE BURBANK
CALIFORNIA RISK PEACE. CLAIM
CHRYSLER CITY FOR. MARIA THE
BEACH. HEALTH FRIEDMAN OF RIVER
SANTA ANA UPLAND AND ALSO DEPUTY
SHERIFF ASSOCIATION SUMMARY PLUS
COUNTY ALL UP. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. GOOD MORNING JULIE SCREW
REPRESENT SEMI CONSCIOUS
APARTMENT NUMBER THANK THANK YOU
. MORE LATER IS A ON THE-
RIVERSIDE SHARE OFFICE SOME OF
SHERIFF'S OFFICE AT THE- IN
ENOUGH THANK YOU THANK YOU.
MISTER RATE PERIOD BEHALF PORAC
HAVE CHOSE.
N. B. TO SHARE WITH THE WORLD
SUCH A TRAGEDY AND AGAIN YOU
KNOW TRYING TO LEAD THE WAY
HEARING CALIFORNIA TO PREVENT
MORE INSTANCES LIKE THIS IS OUR
GOAL AND I ALSO WANT TO THINK-
THE CENTER FOR. YOU KNOW MOVING
THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION AND I
WILL BE SUPPORTING. THANK YOU
ANYONE ELSE. YOU MAY CLOSE. JUST
THE THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR
MEMBERS AND- ALL OF THE
ADVOCATES BOTH FOR AND AGAINST
HER FOR. BEING PART OF THIS VERY
VERY IMPORTANT CONVERSATION. AND
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR
PEOPLE TO REMEMBER. THE MASS GUN
VIOLENCE TRAGEDIES THAT WE HAVE
IN THIS COUNTRY. ARE A UNIQUELY
AMERICAN PHENOMENON. OTHER
INDUSTRIALIZED COUNTRIES DON'T
HAVE. THE SHOOTINGS THAT WE HAVE
HERE. AND IT IS DIRECTLY RELATED
. TO THE PROLIFERATION OF
WEAPONS THAT ARE SATURATED
THROUGH OUR COUNTRY. OTHER
COUNTRIES HAVE MENTAL HEALTH
CRISES THEY HAVE SIMILAR ISSUES
BUT THEY DON'T HAVE GUN VIOLENCE
THE SUPREME COURT CLEARLY SAID.
WE CAN HAVE A SET STANDARD TO
REGULATE CONCEALED CARRY PERMITS
THE SUPREME COURT SAID YOU CAN
HAVE RESTRICTED PLACES. AS THE
DOJ OUTLINED THIS BILL DIDN'T
JUST APPEAR IT IS SOMETHING THAT
. THEY WE ALL OF US HAVE BEEN
WORKING IN CRAFTING TO ENSURE
THAT IT STANDS CONSTITUTIONAL
MUSTER AND PROTECTS CALIFORNIANS
FROM FURTHER GUN VIOLENCE WITH
THAT I RESPECTFULLY ASTRONAUT.
OKAY THANK YOU FOR A- TRYING TO
BRING THIS BACK AGAIN THOUGH WE-
I WAS ON THE FLOOR WE'RE TRYING
TO GET THROUGH BEFORE. IT'S BEEN
. INTESTINAL IS BEEN INTERESTING
THIS TIME I'VE- MY NAME BEEN
REVOKED AS SHERIFF JONES SAWYER
AND ONE. WHICH I DON'T KNOW IF
THAT EVER HAPPENED BUT A-
ANOTHER WITNESS SAID MISTER
SPEAKER WHICH I KNOW WILL THAT
HAPPEN. AND SO- LOS IF IT MAKES
THAT IS COMMITTEE WILL SEE WHAT
. AS WE MOVE FORWARD- EGGMAN AND
I. SIR MOTION. CALL THE ROLL. ON
S. B. TWO BY SENATOR PORTANTINO
THE MOTION IS TO PASS AS AMENDED
TO THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE
JONES SAWYER JONES SAWYER HI
ALANIZ. BONTA BRIAN BRIAN AYE
LACKEY NO LACKEY NO ORTEGA OR
TAKE A HIKE SANTIAGO JACKSON.
I'M CALLING BILLS ALL CALM TO
MORE- NOW HAVE A STROMBERG
SENATOR SUBSTANCE COULD BE
SENATOR ROBERT. SECOND ROW-
SORRY YOU HAVE ANOTHER BILL. A
JUDGE THE GUN I'M SORRY.
HOPEFULLY THIS THE- HOPEFULLY
THREE SO EIGHT. YOU CAN'T LET MY
ROOMMATE CUT. THANK YOU THANK
YOU MISTER CHAIR AND COMMITTEE
MEMBERS I'D LIKE TO BEGIN BY
ACCEPTING THE COMMITTEE
AMENDMENTS AS DISCUSSED WITH THE
COMMITTEE. THANK YOU COMMITTEE
STAFFER WORKING WITH MY STAFF SB
THREE SIX STATUS A COMPREHENSIVE
FIREARM SAFETY PACKAGE THAT
WOULD EXPAND SENSIBLE FIREARM
SAFETY LAWS IT PROHIBITS
FIREARMS STORES AND DEALERS FROM
WRAPPING OFF INVENTORY ITEMS
ACCESSORIES AND FIREARMS TO
ANYONE WHETHER IT IS PURCHASE A
RAFFLE TICKET OR NOT- THIS CAME
TO LIGHT IN. THE CITY OF BURBANK
IN MY DISTRICT WHERE THERE WAS
A- A RALLY FOR GUN SAFETY A
RALLY- BURBANK HAS A VERY HIGH
CONCENTRATION OF. GUN STORES THE
SECOND HIGHEST CONCENTRATION IN
THE COUNTRY PER CAPITA AND
ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE RALLY
ONE OF THE GUN STORES DECIDED TO
DO A FREE RAFFLE TO ATTRACT
CUSTOMERS TO SORT OF MAKE A
COUNTER STATEMENT AND FRANKLY I
JUST DON'T THINK GUN STORE
SHOULD BE OFFERING OUR RAFFLES
TO BRING MORE PEOPLE IN AND
HAVING GIVEAWAYS- AND I
APPRECIATE THE FOLKS IN BURBANK
FOR HIGHLIGHTING THIS ISSUE. IN
TWO THOUSAND NINETEEN SB ONE
SEVENTY TWO EXPANDED LAWS AROUND
THOSE WHO ARE IN CRISIS OR
HAVING SUICIDAL THOUGHTS TO
ALLOW THEM TO TURN- IN THEIR
FIREARMS TO A FAMILY MEMBER LAW
ENFORCEMENT I WAS PROUD TO HAVE
AUTHORED THAT BUILT THIS BILL
GOES ONE STEP FURTHER BY
PROVIDING THAT. INDIVIDUALS THE
OPTION OF VOLUNTARY TURNING IN
THEIR FIREARMS TO A DEALER. FOR
SAFE STORAGE AGAIN. YOU KNOW
SOMETIMES SOMEBODY MIGHT
ACTUALLY BE MORE COMFORTABLE
GOING TO THEIR GUN DEALER TO GET
THE GUN OUT OF THE HOUSE AND SO
WE THINK THE DEALERS WHO PROFIT
FROM SELLING GUNS. SHOULD HAVE
SKIN IN THE GAME WITH PROVIDING
A SAFE HAVEN FOR SOMEBODY TO
TRANSFER THEIR GUN AND IT'S-
VOLUNTARY TO THE INDIVIDUAL AND
WE THINK IT CAN SAVE A LIFE DOWN
THE ROAD. LASTLY THIS BILL WILL
ALSO EXTEND THE TEN YEAR
PROHIBITION ON OWNING A FIREARM
BY TEN ADDITIONAL YEARS IF A
PERSON IS FOUND TO VIOLATE THE
PROHIBITION SO IF DURING YOUR
TIME. OF YOUR PROBATION YOU
VIOLATE IT THERE SHOULD BE A
PRUDENT EXTENSION OF THAT IT
ONLY MAKES SENSE IF YOU'RE
PROVING TO THE WORLD THAT YOU'RE
A RESPONSIBLE. WE SHOULD TAKE
THAT TO HEART THAT YOUR BEING A
RESPONSIBLE AND THERE SHOULD BE.
AN EXTENSION SO BY TAKING THESE
STEPS. WILL BE SUPPORTING THE
MENTAL HEALTH NEEDS OF
INDIVIDUALS KEEPING THE PUBLIC
SAFETY AND ENACTING COMMON
SENSE. GUN LEGISLATION WITH ME
TODAY I HAVE SERRA HENRY FROM
THE CITY OF ALAMEDA. AND TIFFANY
. MACH NINE FROM THE CALIFORNIA
FEDERATION OF TEACHERS AND WE
HAVE. DOES IRWIN. EVEN NEED THE
LETTER ACTION I KNOW THE LEGEND
THE MAN THE MAN IN PERSON. IRWIN
NO WAY WHO IS HERE AS WELL FOR
TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE SO WE'RE
GONNA GO TO. SARAH AND TIFFANY
FIRST AND THEN- WHEN WILL BACK
CLEAN UP WE STILL ONLY HAVE FIVE
MINUTES OR ONE THAT'S WHY HE
SAID ATWATER WITH HIS LAST. GOT
MORE CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE
ASSEMBLY PUBLIC SAY COMMITTEE MY
NAME IS SARAH HENRY AND I'M THE
COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR AND
LEGISLATIVE AFFAIRS OFFICER. FOR
THE CITY OF ALAMEDA. I'M HERE
TODAY IN SUPPORT OF SB THREE
SIXTY EIGHT WHICH WILL REQUIRE A
LICENSED FIREARM DEALER TO
ACCEPT A FIREARM FOR STORAGE IN
ORDER TO PREVENT IT FROM BEING
USED TO ATTEMPT SUICIDE. THE
CITY OF ALAMEDA IS A STRONG
SUPPORTER OF GUN SAFETY AND
COMMONSENSE GUN LAWS AND
POLICIES THAT IMPROVE THE
PHYSICAL. AND MENTAL WELL BEING
OF OUR RESIDENTS. THE CITY
CONSIDERS SB THREE SIXTY EIGHT A
COMMON SENSE MEASURE THAT HAS
THE POTENTIAL TO SAVE MANY LIVES
ACROSS THE STATE. AND IN OUR
LOCAL COMMUNITY. ACCORDING TO
THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF
PUBLIC HEALTH THERE WERE ONE
THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED AND TEN
SUICIDES BY FIREARM IN TWENTY
NINETEEN ALONE. SOMETHING MUST
BE DONE TO PREVENT THESE
UNNECESSARY AND HEARTBREAKING
DEATHS. BY REQUIRING LICENSED
FIREARM DEALERS TO ACCEPT A
FIREARM FOR STORAGE FROM AN
INDIVIDUAL TO PREVENT IT FROM
BEING ACCESS TO USE OR ATTEMPT
SUICIDE. SB THREE SIXTY EIGHT
PROVIDES A VITAL MECHANISM FOR
INDIVIDUALS WHO MAY BE
EXPERIENCING A MENTAL HEALTH
CRISIS. TO TEMPORARILY SEPARATE
THEMSELVES FROM THEIR FIREARMS
AND SEEK THE HELP THEY NEED TO
MOVE THROUGH THE CRISIS AND
RETURN TO STABILITY. CURRENTLY
HOWEVER LICENSE RETAILERS ARE
NOT REQUIRED TO ACCEPT AND
TEMPORARILY STORE FIREARMS
DURING A MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS.
AS WE ALL KNOW GUNS ARE LETHAL
AND UNFORTUNATELY RARELY ALLOW
FOR. SECOND CHANCES. FOR THESE
REASONS THE CITY OF ALAMEDA IS
PLEASED TO SUPPORT SB THREE
SIXTY EIGHT AND RESPECTFULLY
REQUEST YOUR AYE VOTE TODAY
THANK YOU. THANK YOU CHAIRED
MEMBERS FIFTEEN MOCK
REPRESENTING C. F. T. A UNION OF
EDUCATORS AND CLASSIFY
PROFESSIONALS. WE ARE PROUD TO
SUPPORT SB THREE SIXTY EIGHT AS
WE BELIEVE THAT THERE SHOULD BE
AN END TO GUN VIOLENCE
PARTICULARLY FOR OUR- KIDS AND
OUR STUDENTS. IT IS ONE OF THE
LEADING CAUSES OF DEATH AS YOU
ALL KNOW. IT IT SHOULD BE THIS
IS A SIMPLE MEASURE THAT ALLOWS
SOMEONE WHO WANTS TO VOLUNTARILY
HAVE THEIRS DONE. STORED SAFELY
IN ANOTHER LOCATION- TO DO SO WE
HAVE TO RESEARCH THAT SHOWS THAT
WHEN GUNS ARE NOT ACCESSIBLE TO
THOSE WHO ARE EXPERIENCING A-
MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS OR- JUST.
FEELING LIKE BIG PATIENT HAVE
IT. THAT THIS DOES LOWER SUICIDE
RATES IN AREAS THAT WE HAVE SEEN
AND RESEARCH FOR THOSE REASONS
WE'RE PROUD TO SUPPORT AND THANK
YOU. THANK YOU- I'M HERE IN MY
INDIVIDUAL CAPACITY THE
TREASURER MONOS WHAT I DO- AND
I'LL TALK TO MEMBERS ABOUT THE
DATA BREACH ISSUES THEY WANT TO.
IN TERMS OF THE SPECIFIC BILL.
OF THE THREE COMPONENTS THE
FIRST COMPONENT WHICH IS CALLED
THE HANNAH BETH JACKSON EXPENDED
WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED. BY VICE
PRESIDENT HARRIS WHEN THEY WERE
TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE WAY TO
CONTINUE THE PROHIBITION WITHOUT
HAVING PEOPLE WITH A FAMILY. SO
THAT'S WHERE THE EXTENDER CAME
FROM THE PASSES COMING LIKE
THREE TIMES ONCE IN A WAY HOPE
THEY'LL- ONCE IN THE
JACKSONVILLE AND ONCE IN THE ONE
OF THE ONLY GOT PULLED OUT FOR.
OTHER REASONS SECONDLY ON THE
RAFFLE PIECE ALL RAFFLE PIECE
DOES IS MAKE IT A CONDITION THAT
THE ALL ACTION TRIP THAT THEY
FOLLOW THE CURRENT STATE
CONSTITUTION WHICH PROHIBITS
RAFFLES. SAY BY NONPROFITS
NONPROFITS ARE PROTECTED UNDER
THIS BILL. THIRD ON THE STORAGE
BE SOMEWHERE OF THE LIABILITY
STUFF THAT WAS MENTIONED
ANALYSIS WORKING THROUGH THAT-
BUT THE NOTION THAT GUN DEALERS
DON'T HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO
SERVE THE PUBLIC. IS
INCONSISTENT WITH THE PRIVATE
PART TRANSACTION RULES. UNDER
THE PRIVATE PART TRANSACTION
RULES WHICH THE NRA ACTUALLY
HELPED CREATE IN NINETEEN EIGHTY
EIGHT INSIST UPON THEIR A MUST
SERVE AND FEE CAPS IMPOSED
BECAUSE IF YOU'RE GONNA SAY THAT
YOU'RE IN THIS BUSINESS. YOU
HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY HERE AND
IT'S MUCH SAFER THE STORE A GUN
WITH THE DEALER CENTER STORED
UNDER ONE SEVENTY TWO AT
SOMEBODY'S HOUSE EVEN THOUGH
IT'S ON THE LOCK AND KEY. BUT WE
ARE WORKING THROUGH THE STORAGE
ISSUE AND WITH THAT I WILL CLOSE
AND I WAS UNDER FIVE MINUTES I
WOULD NOT. YES YOU YES YOU ARE.
IN THE OTHERS IN. THE IT AND THE
OTHERS IN SUPPORT. ARE THERE
ANYONE IN OPPOSITION.
WELL THIS IS. THIS TIME OKAY SO
YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES M. THANK
YOU MISTER CHAIR NOT MISTER
SPEAKER SIR ABOUT PROMOTION OR-
FOR THE RECORD MY NAME IS
MICHAEL FINLEY I AM THE DIRECTOR
OF OUR RELATIONS FOR THE
NATIONAL SHOOTING SPORTS
FOUNDATION WHERE AMERICA IS.
RESERVATION FOR FARMING FACTORS
AMMUNITION MANUFACTURERS
RETAILERS AND ARRANGES. AND IN
CALIFORNIA TODAY SEEMS PRETTY
POLITICAL DOESN'T IT SEEMS KIND
OF DIFFERENT IT'S YOU CAN FEEL
IN THE ROOM. AND THE SPONSOR THE
BILL. MENTIONED SOMETHING
EARLIER AND HE MENTIONED
BIPARTISANSHIP. AND I WANT
EXTEND THE OLIVE BRANCH. TO THE
SPONSOR OF THE BILL WE HAVE
PROGRAMS. THIS IS A PROBLEM
SUICIDE IS A PROBLEM. AND WE
NEED TO. DO EVERYTHING THAT WE
CAN TO MAKE SURE. THAT THE
NUMBER ONE CAUSE OF FIREARM
DEATHS. BUT WE DO SOMETHING
ABOUT IT. SO NATIONAL SHOOTING
SPORTS FOUNDATION HAS WORKED
WITH. THE VA WE WORK WITH THE
AMERICAN FOUNDATION OF SUICIDE
PREVENTION. WE MANDATE. AND WE
SEND OUT PAMPHLETS AND WE PUT
TOGETHER A PROGRAM. TO TALK
ABOUT THIS ISSUE AND THEY'RE IN
EVERY ONE OF OUR MEMBER STORES
BECAUSE IT IS AN ISSUE. WE DO
GRANTS WE WORK WITH THE VA IN
TERMS OF. VOLUNTARILY MAKING
SURE THAT FIREARMS FOR THE PAST
THIRTY FORTY YEARS WE LET. LEAD
THE WAY AND MAKING SURE THAT.
WALKS REPORT PROVIDED AND I'D
LIKE TO WORK WITH THE SPONSOR ON
THIS WITH OUR CURRENT PROGRAMS.
TO MANDATE SOMETHING TO TELL
SOMEBODY. HEY IF SOMEBODY COMES
IN WITH AN CRISIS. AND YOU AS AN
FFL HAVE TO STORE THAT. I MEAN
THAT'S THINK ABOUT RATIONALLY
LET'S THINK ABOUT IT. RIGHT NOW
FROM A COMMON SENSE PERSPECTIVE
. SO WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THAT FFL
RETURNS THAT FIRE. WHAT HAPPENS
IF SOMETHING BAD HAPPENS. WHO'S
THAT ALL. HOW DO YOU DETERMINE
THAT. ARE FL'S NOW. HAVING TO BE
TRAINED. AND DETERMINE WHEN
SOMEBODY COMES IN THEY SAY YOU
KNOW WHAT I'M NOT A CRISIS.
PLEASE RETURN MY FIRE. CAN WE
SAY NO TO THAT. WHAT HAPPENS IF
SOMETHING BAD HAPPENS. NOT ONLY
IS THAT ON THEIR CONSCIENCE. BUT
WHAT IF THEIR FAMILY DECIDES
BAKER ELLIS. YOU KNOW. YOU'VE
GOT DEEP POCKETS. YOU SHOULD
HAVE KNOWN EVEN NOW WE DON'T
HAVE ANY TRAINING. WHAT
PSYCHOLOGIST. WE WANT TO DO THE
RIGHT THING. FOUR PEOPLE WERE IN
THE COMMUNITY SMALL MOM AND POPS
. PAUL BUT NOW THE CLERK. IS
MAKING MINIMUM WAGE. HAS
RETURNED FIRE. AND NEXT THING
YOU KNOW SOMETHING BAD HAPPENS.
HE'S HAD NO TRAINING WHATSOEVER
THIS IS LOS. AND THERE WERE THE
BAD GUYS. WE WANT TO WORK WITH
THE OTHER SIDE. I THINK WE
OFTENTIMES GET DEMONIZED.
EVERYBODY LIKES LOOK AT THE
FIREARMS INDUSTRY AND LIKE TO
SAY YOU KNOW WHAT. YOU GUYS ARE
ALL ABOUT PROFITS. YOU GUYS
REALLY DON'T CARE ABOUT THE
COMMUNITIES THAT YOU'RE IN. BUT
WE DEAL. BY A LARGE MAJORITY OF
OUR MEMBERS ARE RANGES AND
RETAILERS AND THEIR SMALL MOM
AND POP STORES WITH A HANDFUL OF
EMPLOYEES. GRAIN WITHIN THEIR
COMMUNITIES THEY KNOW THEIR
CUSTOMERS AND THIS IS WHY WE ARE
THE FIRST LINE OF DEFENSE WHEN
IT COMES TO SUICIDE WHEN A
PERSON IS IN CRISIS. TIME AND
SPACE IS THE NUMBER ONE THING
THAT WE NEED TO DO. SO TRAINING
THEM TO SEE AND SENSE THAT TO
CONTACT LAW ENFORCEMENT
INAPPROPRIATE MENTAL HEALTH
PROFESSIONALS AS OPPOSED TO
PUTTING THAT BURDEN ON US
BUSINESSES THAT HAVE NEVER NEVER
GONE THROUGH THAT TRAINING. IT'S
SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS WAY
MORE APPROPRIATE. NOW I KNOW YOU
MIGHT NOT LIKE THE MESSENGER
HERE. AND I KNOW IN THIS DAY AND
AGE. MY PARTNERSHIP WASN'T
REALLY HAPPY. BUT I HOPE YOU
HEAR MY WORDS AND I HOPE YOU
KNOW THAT WE DO CARE. WE REALLY
DO. AND IF YOU PUT THIS IN PLACE
I THINK IT WILL BE TO UNINTENDED
CONSEQUENCES. AND WE CAN ALL
EVERYBODY CAN PAT THEIR BACKS
AND SAY YOU KNOW WHAT WE DID
SOMETHING CHALK ONE UP. BUT YOU
ALL. YOUR MADE IT WORSE. AND
WITH THAT WERE STRONGLY AGAINST
THIS BILL THANK YOU FOR YOUR
TIME. THANK YOU ARE THE ONE ELSE
IN OPPOSITION NAME AN
ORGANIZATION. WE'RE TRAVIS
CALIFORNIA RIFLE PISTOL
ASSOCIATION WE'RE COMING UP ON
OUR HUNDRED FIFTIETH ANNIVERSARY
FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT MAY NOT
KNOW SAYS THAT. PEOPLE THE BACK
FARMS IN CALIFORNIA THE FIRST
TWO WORDS FOR HARD FIFTY YEARS
HAVE BEEN BE SAFE WE WERE THE
FIRST ORGANIZATION. BRING
FIREARMS SAFETY AND THAT WERE
OFTEN AWAY FROM THE TABLE AND WE
WILL MAKE THE SAME THING ON THE
SUBJECT TO SUICIDE WE WORKED
VERY DILIGENTLY. WITH THE PEOPLE
WHO ARE THE END USERS TO MAKE
SURE THAT THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN
AND WE WOULD LOVE TO WORK WITH
THE AUTHOR WILL REACH ACROSS. ON
THAT BUT FOR THE WAY THIS IS
CURRENTLY SET UP OR IN
OPPOSITION. THANK YOU ANY OTHER
WITNESSES OPPOSITION. WITH THAT
WILL. BRING IT BACK TO COMMITTEE
FOR ANY QUESTIONS- COMMENT.
SEEING NONE. YOU MAY CLOSE.
THANK YOU- THANK YOU MISTER
CHAIR JUST ADDING A COUPLE
STATISTICS- SHOE SIZE THE TENTH
LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH IN THE U.
S. FOURTH LEADING CAUSE FOR
MALES UNDER SIXTY FIVE. AND
SEVEN OUT OF TEN VETERANS
DEATHS. ARE SUICIDES- GUN
RELATED HOMICIDES ROSE 52% AND
AGGRAVATED ASSAULTS ROSE BY 64%
TWO THOUSAND TWENTY ONE. THE
SITUATION IS DIRE. SO TO HAVE
SAFEGUARDS IN PLACE OF WHEN. THE
GUN HOLDER GETS THOSE RIGHT BACK
INTO HAVE THE GUN STORE. HAVE
SKIN IN THE GAME SEEMS PRUDENT
TO ME- AND GUN OWNERS GUN STORES
SELL THE GUN ISSUE. THEY KNOW
THAT WHEN THAT GUN LEAVES THAT
STORE. VIOLENCE MIGHT FOLLOW IT
. THEY KNOW THAT WHEN THEY SELL
IT. SO CERTAINLY HAVING THEM
TAKE IT BACK WHEN SOMEBODY WANTS
TO GIVE IT BACK AGAIN SEEMS
PRUDENT SO I RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR AN AYE VOTE AND THANK
EVERYBODY FOR THE CONVERSATION.
HELLO MOTION THE SECOND. BOB
SHARES RECOMMENDED I CALL THE
ROLL. ON SB THREE SIXTY EIGHT BY
SENATOR PORTANTINO THE MOTION IS
TO PASS AS AMENDED TO THE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE JONES
SAWYER JONES SAWYER HI ALANIZ.
BONTA BRIAN BRIAN HI LACKEY
LACKEY NO ORTEGA ORTEGA HI
SANTIAGO. JACKSON MIDDLE CALLED
TWO THANK YOU I WILL YOU KNOW IT
MIGHT SEEKS ROBERT.
THREE OUR ITEM ITEM NUMBER
FIFTEEN SB THREE FIVE NINE I'M
BURKE CORRECTIONS RECIDIVISM
REPORTS. USED WHENEVER YOU'RE
READY TO BEGIN MISTER THANK YOU
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS
OF SPECIAL THANKS TO CONSULT
CHAU ANDERSON FOR ALL HER HARD
WORK ON THE BILL ON SEVEN NOON-
BELIEVE WE'RE ALL GOING TO VOTE
ON A BUDGET THAT PROVIDES FOR
FOURTEEN BILLION ONE HUNDRED
NINE MILLION. THREE HUNDRED
EIGHTY NINE THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR
THE DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTION.
WHAT I BELIEVE WE NEED TO DO IS
WE NEED TO COLLECT THE DATA TO
DETERMINE THE MOST EFFICIENT USE
OF THOSE RESOURCES ONE OF THE
MOST EXPENSIVE PARTS OF OUR
BUDGET AND THAT'S WHAT SB THREE
FIVE NINE IS ABOUT WILL REQUIRE-
ALICE'S OF CREDITS. BUT IS THAT
A PROVIDED TO THOSE ARE
INCARCERATED DETERMINE WHAT IS
MOST EFFECTIVE AND WHAT IS LEAST
EFFECTIVE IN TERMS OF THE
WORDING ACCREDITS- THIS CHAIR
YOU AND I SHARED STORE ABOUT HOW
CREDITS ARE PROVIDED- WAY BACK
IN THE DAY. WHEN I WAS ELECTED
IN NINETEEN NINETY SOON THERE
AFTER I WAS APPOINTED AS THE
CHAIR OF THE SELECT COMMITTEE ON
PRISON OPERATIONS FOR REASONS I
STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND BUT MANY
OF THAT I WAS AND- I SAW THAT
THERE WAS A PROGRAM AT CHINO
STATE PRISON. A DIVING PROGRAM
AND I THOUGHT. THIS IS NOT THAT
WE ARE TRAINING PRISONERS TO BE
SCUBA DIVERS AND WHAT POSSIBLE.
BENEFIT COULD THAT BE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA HOW BECAUSE THAT HOW
COULD THAT. POSSIBLY PROVIDE FOR
PUBLIC SAFETY IN SALT SO I WENT
TO CHINO TO LOOK AT THE PROGRAM
I BELIEVE STILL EXISTS TODAY. IT
TURNS OUT IT WASN'T A SCUBA
DIVING PROGRAM WHAT IT WAS WAS
AN INDUSTRIAL DIVING PROGRAM. IN
A REQUIRED- QUITE A RIGOROUS-
TRAINING TO BE ADMITTED VERY FEW
WERE ADMITTED ONCE ADMITTED THE
COURSE WAS EXTREMELY RIGOROUS.
TO TRAIN. THOSE WERE
INCARCERATED BECOME INDUSTRIAL
DIVERSE AND AFTERWARDS THEY-
ALMOST ALL RECEIVE JOBS THING.
IN THE SIX FIGURES AND GUESS
WHAT. GUESS WHAT THE RECIDIVISM
RATE WAS ABOUT 6% WHICH IS FAR
FAR FAR LOWER THAN ANY OTHER ANY
OTHER PROGRAM ANY OTHER CREDIT
THAT THAT WE PROVIDE. SO IT
TURNS OUT I WAS WRONG MY WIFE
THINKS THAT'S FAIRLY COMMON
OCCURRENCE. OF BUT IT TURNS OUT
I WAS WRONG IN TERMS OF THE
CREDITS AND THAT I THOUGHT THIS
WAS SOME FOOLISHNESS TURNS OUT
IT WASN'T FOOLISHNESS BUT WHAT
WE NEED TO DO. IS WE NEED TO
FIGURE OUT I THINK THE
RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN. CREDITS UP
IT SPECIFICALLY BUT ALSO SOME
OTHER VARIABLES AND WHAT THAT
MEANS IN TERMS OF RECIDIVISM-
YOUR STAFF MISTER CHAIRS
PROVIDED SOME EXCELLENT FEEDBACK
IN TERMS OF. THE ITEMS THAT
WEREN'T ORIGINALLY COVERED THAT
WE HAVE AMENDED THE BILL SO FOR
EXAMPLE THE VARIABLE AS TO HOW-
MUCH ATTENTION INDIVIDUAL INMATE
GETS IN TERMS OF. HIS OR HER
REHABILITATIVE PROCESS THAT'S A
VARIABLE IT'S NOW INCLUDED AS
PART OF THE REQUISITE STUDY- THE
ISSUE OF RACIAL INEQUITY WE KNOW
THAT THAT EXISTS. WHAT IS THE
DIFFERENCE WHAT IS THE
DIFFERENCE WHEN TWO INMATES OR
MORE- ARE PROVIDED SIMILAR
CREDIT SIR PER TREATED SIMILARLY
AND THE OUTCOMES OR IF THEY ARE
TREATED SIMILARLY THAT'S KNOWN
CORPORATE BUILT INTO THE STUDY-
WHAT POST. A RELEASE.
AVAILABILITY IS THERE FOR OTHER
REHABILITATIVE PROGRAMS THAT'S
NOW INCORPORATED IN REQUIRED IN
THE STUDY- IT ALSO- THE CONCERN
WAS THAT- INMATES NOT BE
IDENTIFIED BY NAME AND I THINK
THAT'S A- VERY VALUABLE
SUGGESTION THAT'S ALSO
INCORPORATED. SO WHAT THIS DOES
IS SIMPLY DIRECTS. THIS POINT
DIRECTS THE DEPARTMENT OF
CORRECTIONS TO DO THIS ANALYSIS
I AM AWARE OF THAT THE
DEPARTMENT CORRECTIONS HAS.
CONTRACTED WITH THE- WITH PP I
SEE TO DO A STUDY. FOCUSED ON
PROGRAMS FOCUSED ON PROGRAMS
WHICH IS IMPORTANT- WE SHOULD
KNOW THAT AS WELL- THIS THIS.
FOCUSES PRIMARILY ALMOST
EXCLUSIVELY ON CREDITS AND HOW
THOSE CREDITS- RELATE TO
POTENTIAL RECIDIVISM I HAVE
OTHER THAN MYSELF I HAVE NO THE
WITNESSES BUT- ORIGINAL VOTE.
THE MOTION MOVE THE BILL.
THEY'RE A- DESPITE ALL THE OTHER
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT. BEHALF OF
PARKINSON. THANK YOU. ANY
WITNESSES. WE GOT MORE CALGARY
BE AMORTIZED DISTRICT ATTORNEY
ON BEHALF OF CDA IN SUPPORT
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER WITNESSES
IN SUPPORT. ANY WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION. ANY WITNESSES
OPPOSITION SEEING NONE BRING IT
BACK TO COMMITTEE FOR QUESTIONS
OR COMMENTS. SEEING NONE OF.
GOOD MISTER BRYANT. THANK YOU
SENATOR AND YOU KNOW. WE HAVE
BEEN A PRISON TOGETHER. AND SO I
DON'T KNOW YOUR YOU MAY WANT TO
EXPLAIN THIS. NO EXPLANATION.
FACTOIDS AND I KNOW THAT YOUR
YOU KNOW YOUR GOALS INTENTIONS
SPECIALS YOU LAID OUT OUR OUR
NOBLE THIS IS THE KIND OF WORK I
DID PRIOR TO BEING IN. CREATING
REGRESSIVE A REGRESSION ANALYSIS
CONTROLLING FOR OMITTED
VARIABLES TRYING TO FIND THE
STRONGEST CAUSAL- INFERENCE THAT
WE COULD WIN SOMETHING IN A
PARTICULAR OUTCOME. I HAVE HIGH
SKEPTICISM A CDC ARE BEING ABLE
TO COMPILE THAT DATA AND DO KIND
OF THE REQUISITE ANALYSIS NEEDED
TO DETERMINE WHETHER THE LINKAGE
BETWEEN SOMEBODY'S RECIDIVISM
HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE
CREDITS FOR. THE UNEMPLOYMENT
RATE MORE BROADLY RIGHT OR THAT
TIME OF YEAR THEY WERE FOR THE
STORE WHERE THEY WERE RELEASED
TO PAROLE CONDITIONS AND
VARIATIONS OF PRO I MEAN I CAN
THINK OF LIKE FIFTY ADDITIONAL
VARIABLES THAT I THINK OF. YOU
KNOW AT THE NUMBER OF ACADEMICS
COULD CONTROL FOR THINK ABOUT-
IN IN A SETTING THAT I DON'T
KNOW THAT I TRUST THE DEPARTMENT
TO DO I CERTAINLY DON'T KNOW
THAT I WOULD WANT TO GIVE THEM
MORE MONEY TO DO SOMETHING THAT
I DON'T KNOW THAT I TRUST THAT
THEY CAN DO IT SO FOR THOSE
REASONS I. AM DEEPLY JUST TRYING
TO GRAPPLE WITH THIS BECAUSE I
KNOW WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM-
AND I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING.
THAT YOU AND I CAN WORK ON IF
IT'S NOT SUCCESSFUL THIS CYCLE
AND I'D LIKE TO- BUT I JUST
WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU
HEARD THOSE THOUGHTS FOR ME-
BECAUSE I. I WANT TO SUPPORT THE
WORK THAT YOU WERE TRYING TO DO
I JUST I STRUGGLE DEEPLY WITH-
THE WAY THAT THIS IS SET UP AND
THEN THE KIND OF AUTHORITY IN A
TANAMI GIVES THE DEPARTMENT. TO
HAVE CONTROL OF THAT PROCESS.
MANY OF THE COMMON. QUESTION YOU
MAY CLOSE. SO ASSEMBLY MEMBER
BRIAN YES WE- WERE IN PRISON
TWICE TOGETHER SMALLER BANKS.
ARE IN- I UNDERSTAND AND- TAKE
HEED OF YOUR YOUR CONCERNS I
THINK THERE ARE A NUMBER OF
VARIABLES AND I'M NOT A
SCIENTIST- BUT I DO THINK WE
NEED TO. TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION
AND CONTROL FOR THE VARIABLES A
PLUS OTHERS THAT YOU SUGGESTED-
IN TERMS OF CDCR. YOU KNOW WHAT
HAVE NO- PASSION FOR CDC ARE
DOING START DOING THE STUDY THE
ISSUE COURSES WHATEVER DATA IS
COLLECTED WEATHER'S BY P. P. I.
C. OR BY. RANDOR BY WHATEVER
EXIT COMES FROM THE DEPARTMENT
OF CORRECTIONS- AND I DON'T
THINK THERE'S ANY WAY TO GET
AROUND THE DEPARTMENT OF
CORRECTIONS BEING ENGAGED
INVOLVED. OF THAT AND I'M
WILLING TO CERTAINLY TAKE AN
AMENDMENT TO HAVE FOR EXAMPLE L.
A. L. DO THE STUDY. I DO BELIEVE
IT SHOULD BE SOME STATE
INSTITUTION MAYBE IT'S A SAD
COMMENTARY ON. ON WHATEVER THAT
THAT WE DON'T TRUST THE
DEPARTMENT CORRECTIONS BUT
ULTIMATELY WE DO HAVE TO TRUST
THEM TO PROVIDE THE DATA. SO IF
SOMEONE IS MORE COMFORTABLE
FEATURES MORE COMFORTABLE IF
YOU'RE MORE COUPLE WITH ELLIE-
DOING IT- IT IS MY VIEW THOUGH
THAT IS A STATE RESPONSIBILITY
IN THE STATE SHOULD DO THE
STUDY. AND THE STUDY I'M IS AS I
MENTIONED A PARTICULAR STUDENT
AND CREDITS BUT- ALL THESE
THINGS SHOULD BE ANALYZE WE'RE
SPENDING A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF
MONEY. AND THE ISSUE IS
INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT. BUT THAT
IRISH VOTE. OKAY HELLO WE
DISCUSS AT THE- AND YOU KNOW I
HAVE A STUDY LOOKING EXACTLY AND
THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS
NOW. OF THEIR AT LEAST THREE
MEMBERS OF THIS COMMITTEE THAT
SORT OF. PUBLIC SAFETY. BUDGET
BETTER EXTREMELY EXTREMELY
FRUSTRATED. AT THE LACK OF
PARTICIPATION AT THE LACK OF
COOPERATION- AT THE LOOK. AT THE
OUTRIGHT DISRESPECT. FOR THE
LEGISLATURE THE CDC OUR HEADSET.
WHERE WE'VE ASKED FOR
INFORMATION. A BUDGETARY
INFORMATION. AND THEY'VE SHOWN
UP. DATE MEETING CDCR. I HAVE
NOT GIVEN THIS INFORMATION AND
BASICALLY FLAUNTED. THEIR NOSES
AT US. AND SAID. WE'LL GET
AROUND TO IT WHEN WE GET AROUND
TO IT- THAT IS THAT IS WHAT. THE
REAL FLAW. YOU'VE NEVER SAT. ON
THE COMMITTEE YOU'VE EVER I'VE
BEEN ON PUBLIC SAFETY BUDGET FOR
TEN YEARS. ASKING FOR THE SAME
INFORMATION. I WOULD I WOULD
GUESS YOU WILL NOT GET YOUR
ANSWER FROM CDC ARE. THAT'S HOW
FRUSTRATED. I AM THAT'S WHY
COULD NOT LET CDCR BE IN CHARGE
OF GETTING INFORMATION THEY WILL
STONE WHILE YOU. AND YOU WILL
GET FRUSTRATED. AND YOU'LL BE AT
THE YOU'LL BE WHERE I AM AT
RIGHT NOW- I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S
MANAGEMENT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S
GOING ON OVER THERE BECAUSE THEY
WON'T LET US KNOW WHAT'S GOING
ON HERE THAT'S WHY YOU WANT IT
AND OUTSIDE GROUPS DOING IT. AND
DOING THE STUDY AS THE ASSEMBLY
MEMBER SAID WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
REGRESSION ANALYSIS OF DOING A
COMIC CALLED SO. RELATIONSHIP
DATA THAT YOU NEED TO COLLECT-
I'M NOT EVEN SURE- WE CAN DO IT
INTERNALLY WE MAY HAVE TO GET
PEOPLE FROM OUTSIDE TO COME AND
HELP- AND THAT'S WHY WE JUST
CAN'T GIVE IT TO CDCR. IT'S- IT
WOULD BE A WASTE OF TIME IT WILL
WASTE THE MONEY. IT IS THE MOST
FRUSTRATING THING I'VE EVER
EXPERIENCED IN MY ENTIRE LIFE-
UNTIL THEY'RE ABLE. TO COOPERATE
WITH THE LEGISLATURE- I'M NOT
EVEN CERTAIN WE GET THE
INFORMATION WE NEED. MAYBE
THAT'S- THAT'S PART OF IT THEY
DON'T WANT TO GIVE US THE
INFORMATION- AT SOME POINT- I'M
HOPING THAT- WE CAN GET TO A
POINT WHERE. WE CAN GO IN SIGHT
THE DEPARTMENT AND REALLY. FIND
OUT INFORMATION THAT YOU WANT TO
KNOW I WANT TO KNOW THE PRIME
ONE EVERYBODY WANTS TO KNOW. SO
WE CAN WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT
WHATEVER- THE ART AND CDCR IS
REALLY WORKING. AND WE'RE GOING
TO FIND OUT IS- GETTING TRUE
ACCURATE DATA BUT MOST IMPORTANT
BEING ABLE TO ANALYZE IT AND
UNFORTUNATELY- RIGHT NOW I CAN'T
SEE CDC ARE BEING ABLE TO THE
COOPERATIVE WITH THAT. SINCE THE
MID MAY I RESPOND MR. KNOWS IT
ALL RIGHTS ARE ALL RIGHT. WE
DON'T HAVE A LOT TIME DEFINITELY
. SB THREE FIFTY NINE BY SENATOR
AMBER THE MOTION IS TO PASS TO
THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE
JONES SAWYER NO JONES SAWYER NOW
ALANIZ. MONIES I BONTA. BRIAN.
BRIAN NOT VOTING. BLACKIE
BLACKIE I ORTEGA. ORTEGA NOTES
SANTIAGO. JACKSON JACKSON NOT
VOTING. THAT THE MEASURE FAILED
. MISTER REQUEST RECONSIDERATION
YES. WHAT DOES WITH NO OBJECTION
. THE UNANIMOUS. YOUR MEMBERS.
NO ONE IS GOING- MISS RUBIO
HERE. UP FOR A- MISTER BEACH YOU
. BY HALF A SECOND.
THE ITEM NUMBER SEVEN SB NINETY
FOUR CORTESE RECALL RESENTENCING
SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES. THANK YOU
MISTER CHAIR AND- IN MEMBERS- I
APPRECIATE YOU ARMY TO PRESENT
SB NINETY FOUR WHICH WOULD ALLOW
JUDGES THE ABILITY TO REVIEW
LIFE WITHOUT PAROLE SENTENCES
FOR INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE SERVED
AT LEAST TWENTY FIVE YEARS OF
THEIR SENSE AND WERE SENTENCED
FOR OFFENCES WITH SPECIAL
CIRCUMSTANCES COMMITTED BEFORE
JUNE FIFTH OF NINETEEN NINETY
THESE CASES REPRESENT A VERY
NARROW POPULATION THAT CONSISTS
OF THE MOST ELDERLY INDIVIDUALS
BEHIND BARS. MANY OF THESE
INDIVIDUALS HAVE SHOWN DECADES
OF EXEMPLARY BEHAVIOUR
PARTICIPATED IN EXTENSIVE
POSITIVE PROGRAMMING OF DEVOTED
THEMSELVES TO BECOMING POSITIVE
MEMBERS OF SOCIETY ADDITIONALLY
RESEARCH CONCLUSIVELY
DEMONSTRATES THAT THERE IS
LITTLE RISK FOR ELDERLY
INDIVIDUALS TO RE OFFENDER
RESUPINATE CHRISTOPHER SAID OF A
UPON RELEASE- IN CALIFORNIA
CORRECTIONS REBUILD- CALIFORNIA
STATIC RISK ASSESSMENT TOOL. 88%
OF PEOPLE SERVING LIFE WITHOUT
PAROLE BEEN ASSESSED WITH THE
LOWEST RISK SCORE ON THAT SCALE
. ELDERLY INMATES ELIGIBLE FOR
PAROLE UNDER SB NINETY FORTIES
THREE LEVELS OF INTENSE
VALUATION. THE JUDGE. THE PAROLE
BOARD AND THEN THE GOVERNOR
WOULD OF COURSE NEED TO AGREE
THAT THE INDIVIDUAL IS FULLY
REHABILITATED STATISTICALLY THE
PAROLE BOARD AS FAR MORE LIKELY
DENY PAROLE THE GRANT. BOARD
ONLY GRANTS PAROLE TO ABOUT 16%
OF PETITIONERS IN MAY TO
DEMONSTRATE THEIR COMPLETE
REHABILITATION UNDER THE
PROBOARDS SEVERE SCRUTINY.
WITHIN ADVANCE THE GOVERNOR'S
REVIEW. WE HAVE RECENTLY CROSSED
AMENDMENTS THAT EXCLUDE PERSONS
CONVICTED OF A CRIME THAT
RESULTED IN THE DEATH OF A PEACE
OFFICER THE SEX OFFENSE IN
CONJUNCTION WITH THE HOME SIDE.
OF FOR MORE THAN TWO HOMICIDES
FOR ELIGIBILITY UNDER THIS BILL
SO THOSE ARE COMPLETELY EXEMPTED
OUT. OF THIS BILL SIMPLY CREATES
A PROCESS FOR THE JUDICIAL
REVIEW OF CASES THAT HAVE NOT
BEEN WORKED OUT IN DECADES. OF
WITH US TODAY TO TESTIFY IN
SUPPORT WE HAVE SUSAN BUSTAMANTE
REPRESENTING THE CALIFORNIA
COALITION FOR WOMEN PRISONERS
AND THE TASHA MINSKER
REPRESENTING SMART JUSTICE.
THANK YOU IN AT THE APPROPRIATE
TIME WITH RESPECT THE US RIVAL.
CHEERS THANK YOU. WHENEVER
YOU'RE READY FIVE MINUTES. MY
NAME IS SUSAN THIS THE MONDAY AM
I AND I AM A SURVIVOR I'M A
SURVIVOR OF VIOLENT CRIME AND I
AM A SURVIVOR AN UNJUST SYSTEM.
I WAS MOLESTED BY MY FATHER FROM
THE AGE OF TWELVE TO EIGHTEEN. I
BELIEVE THAT IS HOW I LEARNED TO
BE A VICTIM AND KEEP MY MOUTH
SHUT. WHEN I WAS NINETEEN I MET
MY HUSBAND AND MARRIED QUICKLY
BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT HE LOVED
ME. SADLY HE WAS A WAR VET WHO
SUFFERED PTSD AND VIOLENT RAGES
HE ABUSED ME FOR FIVE YEARS IT
WAS TERRIFYING. IN NINETEEN
EIGHTY MY BROTHER KILLED MY
HUSBAND I DIDN'T DID NOT ASK HIM
TO KILL MY HUSBAND I DID NOT
PARTICIPATE IN THE MURDER
HOWEVER MY BROTHER WAS DEAD BY
THE TIME. THE CASE CAME TO THE-
TO TRIAL LEAVING ONLY ME FOR THE
DISTRICT ATTORNEY TO TARGET. I
WAS BROUGHT TO TRIAL IN NINETEEN
EIGHTY SEVEN AND CONVICTED UNDER
THE FELONY MURDER SPECIAL
CIRCUMSTANCES. NATALIE HAD ARE
NOT KILL MY HUSBAND I WAS NOT
ALLOWED BY THE COURT TO DISCUSS
MEDICATING BASED. MEDICATION
BASED ON MY OVER THIRTEEN YEARS
AS A VICTIM OF VIOLENCE. FIRST
BY MY FATHER AND THEN BY MY
HUSBAND IT WAS NOT ALLOWED BY
LAW AT THE TIME. I HAD A TWO DAY
TRIAL. AT THE AGE OF THIRTY TWO
I WAS SENTENCED TO LIFE WITHOUT
THE POSSIBILITY OF PAROLE
SENTENCED TO DIE IN PRISON. I
WAS SEPARATED FROM MY YOUNG
DAUGHTERS IT WAS HEARTBREAKING.
IN PRISON I MET MANY WOMEN IN
THE SAME SITUATION THAT I WAS
VICTIM OF VIOLENT CRIME
MICELLES. THEN SENTENCED TO THE
VIOLENCE AVAILABLE UP.
INCARCERATION WITHOUT IN. THERE
J. R. GERIATRIC NOW LIVING A
WALKING DISTANCE BREAKING DOWN
AND GETTING SICK. AFTER THIRTY
ONE YEARS I WAS BLESSED WITH THE
COMPUTATION BY GOVERNOR BROWN.
KNOWING THAT MY SISTER'S A
PRISONER STILL SUFFERING
VIOLENCE AND INJUSTICE MOTIVATES
ME TO BE HERE TODAY I WANTED.
THEM TO HAVE HOPE THAT THEY ARE
NOT FORGOTTEN AND THAT THERE
WILL BE A PROCESS TO PROVE THAT
THEY DESERVE TO LIVE FREE AND
NOT BE LEFT TO DIE IN PRISON.
THAT IS WHAT SB NINE FOUR DOES
IT PROVIDES HOPE IT PROVIDES A
PATH TO JUSTICE. I WANT TO THANK
SENATOR CORTESE FOR GIVING US
HOPE I WANT TO THANK THOSE OF
YOU ON THE COMMITTEE WHO WILL
SUPPORT US TODAY. THANK YOU FOR
LISTENING PLEASE VOTE YES. THANK
YOU. ARE YOU OKAY. YES THANK
THEIR- ATTACHMENTS FOR ON BEHALF
OF SMART JUSTICE CALIFORNIA. SB
NINETY FOUR EMPOWERS JUDGES. TO
ADDRESS SENTENCES THAT ARE OUT
OF DATE. IN LIGHT OF
CALIFORNIA'S CURRENT SENTENCING
LAWS. AND TO RECOGNIZE
REDEMPTION AND REHABILITATION.
WHEN IT HAPPENS. THIS BILL
APPLIES TO A SMALL NUMBER OF
PEOPLE WHO WERE SENTENCED FOR
EVENTS. THAT OCCURRED IN THE
SEVENTIES OR THE EIGHTIES. IN
THE THIRTY TO FORTY YEARS SINCE
THE SENTENCES WERE IMPOSED
CALIFORNIA SENTENCING LAW HAS
CHANGED SIGNIFICANTLY. WE NOW
RECOGNIZE AS A FACTOR IN
MITIGATION. THAT A PERSON WHO
HAS BEEN A VICTIM OF SEXUAL
VIOLENCE HUMAN TRAFFICKING. OR
INTIMATE PARTNER VIOLENCE.
SHOULD HAVE THAT CONSIDERED IN
THEIR SENTENCING. WE NOW
RECOGNIZE THAT USE SHOULD BE
TREATED DIFFERENTLY. IN OUR
CRIMINAL COURTS. WE NOW
RECOGNIZE THAT RACIAL BIAS MUST
BE ADDRESSED IN THE CRIMINAL
COURTS. MANY OF THE SENSORS ALL
OF THE SENTENCES IMPOSED SB
NINETY FOUR IMPACTS. WHERE COAST
BEFORE THESE LAWS WERE IN PLACE
. AND SO WE HAVE PEOPLE
CONDEMNED TO DIE IN PRISON. WHO
IF THEY WERE SENTENCED TODAY.
WOULD RECEIVE A VERY DIFFERENT
SENTENCE. SB NINETY FOUR ALSO
RECOGNIZES THAT PEOPLE CHANGE.
THE PEOPLE SENSE TO DIE IN
PRISON AND GIVEN NO HOPE. HAVE
MADE AN EFFORT TO CHANGE. AND
THROUGH THEIR HARD WORK THERE
DEEPER FLEXION. AND OFTEN THEIR
PRAYER THEY HAVE TRANSFORMED.
FINALLY SB NINETY FOUR RELUCTANT
GROUP REFLECTS AND RECOGNIZES
OUR FAITH IN JUDGES. IN JUDGES
BEING THE PEOPLE TO LOOK AT THE
INDIVIDUAL INDIVIDUAL FACTS AND
CIRCUMSTANCES OF THE CASE. AND
DECIDE WHAT IS THE JUST AND FAIR
SENTENCE TO IMPOSE. UNDER THIS
BILL THE JUDGE WILL HAVE FULL
DISCRETION FULL DISCRETION TO
LEAVE THE LIFE WITHOUT PAROLE
SENTENCE IN PLACE. FOUR TO
CHOOSE A SENSE OF LIFE WITHOUT
HOPE OF PAROLE THOSE ARE THE
ONLY TWO OPTIONS. AND IT'S WORTH
EMPHASIZING THAT THIS IS A THREE
STEP PROCESS. IF THE JUDGE.
RESENTENCED AS THE PERSON THEY
WOULD THEN GO TO THE PAROLE
BOARD FOR REVIEW. A PROCESS THAT
TAKES ABOUT TEN MONTHS. AND IF
THE PAROLE BOARD FINDS
UNSUITABLE FOR PAROLE THEY WOULD
THEN GO TO THE GOVERNOR'S
OFFICE. BEFORE EVER BEING
GRANTED PAROLE. SB NINETY FOUR
APPLIES TO A SMALL NUMBER OF
PEOPLE. WHO RANGE IN AGE FROM
FIFTY THREE. TO EIGHTY SEVEN.
THIS BILL HAS GUARDRAILS TO
ENSURE THE COMMUNITY SAFETY IS
CONSIDERED AT EVERY STEP. AND
PROVIDES A FAIR PROCESS AND AN
OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL PARTIES TO
BE HEARD. WE URGE YOU TO
BELIEVE. THE REDEMPTION IS
POSSIBLE. I JUST SUPPORT SB
NINETY FOUR THANK THANK YOU ANY
OTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT NAME
ORGANIZATION. GOOD MORNING CLIMB
BACK IS FOR THE ELEVATOR CENTER
FOR HUMAN RIGHTS AND SUPPORT I
WAS ASKED TO READ THESE NAMES
INTO THE RECORD SO YOU STATE
COUNCIL DRUG POLICY ALLIANCE.
CALIFORNIANS FOR SAFETY AND
JUSTICE EQUALITY CALIFORNIA
FRANCE COMMITTEE ON LEGISLATION
AND INITIATE JUSTICE CALLING
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING
AGAIN MARCO GEORGE ON BEHALF OF
THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC DEFENDERS
ASSOCIATION AND THE SAN
FRANCISCO PUBLIC DEFENDER'S
OFFICE IN SUPPORT THANK YOU
THANK YOU. THE MORNING LIZZY
AGAIN ON COMMON LAW AND
PROSECUTORS WHY TO CALIFORNIANS
SUPPORT. MELISSA BECAUSE YOUR
CALIFORNIANS RECEIVED INJUSTICE
IN SUPPORT. REBECA GONZALEZ
NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF SOCIAL
WORKERS CALIFORNIA CHAPTER IN
SUPPORT. KELLY SEVERED RODRIGUEZ
WITH THE CALIFORNIA COALITION
FOR WOMEN PRISONERS A FORMER A
LOT I HAVE A LIST OF A COUPLE
AND THEIR ORGANIZATIONS- HUMAN
RIGHTS WATCH NATIONAL A LOT
LEADERSHIP COUNCIL FUEL YEAH-
FAMILIES UNITED. AGAINST L. LOCK
LAW ENFORCEMENT- ACTION
PARTNERSHIP THEN THE ART BAND
AND CENTERS FOR EMPLOYMENT
OPPORTUNITIES AND SUPPORT THANK
YOU. CHIU AND SHEER IN SUPPORT
ARE SELLING MURDERS IN THE
NATION PROJECT WE'RE PROUD
SPONSOR OF THIS BILL WERE IN
FULL SUPPORT THANK YOU. YEAH THE
SYSTEM WHERE PEOPLE COALITION
PROUD CO SPONSOR WE ASKED FOR AN
AYE VOTE TODAY THANK YOU. WELL
LESION ON TERROR WITH UNITED FOR
BUDGET COSPONSOR AND SUPPORT. MY
MAY I HEROES FOUNDER AND
DIRECTOR OF THE HEALTH
FOUNDATION ALONG WITH MY HUSBAND
WHO IS SERVING L. WHILE WE
SUPPORTED. SB FOUR. DO COULD
NEARLY HALF OF A SO YOU ACTION
IN SUPPORT. NO SIR IT'S NOT SIR
EAT ON BEHALF OF THE ELLA BAKER
CENTER FOR HUMAN RIGHTS IN
SUPPORT. I DON'T KNOW MY GOD
POLICY ANALYST WITH LEGAL
SERVICES FOR PRISONERS WITH
CHILDREN IN STRONG SUPPORT THANK
YOU. ESPINAS WITH ANTI
RECIDIVISM COALITION UP PROD CO
SPONSOR IN STRONG SUPPORT THANK
YOU THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY
OTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT ARE
YOU WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION.
YES WHENEVER YOU'RE READY OKAY.
GOOD MORNING ZURCHER MY NAME IS
BORN HOW TO GROW AND I'M WITH
CRIME VICTIMS UNITED. ONLY
CRIMINALS CONVICTED OF THE MOST
HEINOUS MURDERS WOULD BENEFIT
FROM SB NINETY FOUR THEY'RE
GUILTY OF FIRST DEGREE MURDER
AND AT LEAST ONE OF THE TWENTY
TWO SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES.
EXAMPLES INCLUDE MURDER
INVOLVING RAPE TORTURE MULTIPLE
VICTIMS MURDER BECAUSE OF RACE
OR RELIGION EVEN MURDER OF A
LEGISLATOR. BECAUSE OF THESE THE
SEVERITY OF THE LAW MANDATES A
MINIMUM SENTENCE OF LIFE WITHOUT
PAROLE THIS IS A VOTER ENACTED
LAW. VICTIMS AND FAMILIES WERE
PROMISED BY A JUDGE OF THE
KILLER WOULD NEVER BE RELEASED
AND THEY WILL NEVER HAVE TO
FIGHT FOR JUSTICE TO A PAROLE
BOARD. I'M ONE OF THOSE FAMILIES
MY BROTHER WAS THE VICTIM OF A
SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCE MURDER AND
HIS KILLERS ARE SERVING LIFE
WITHOUT PAROLE. SB NINETY FOUR
DOES NOT APPLY TO CASES AFTER
NINETEEN NINETY BECAUSE OF THE
DIFFICULT TWO THIRDS VOTE NEEDED
TO OVERTURN THE CALIFORNIA
VOTERS. INSTEAD SB NINETY FOUR
FEELS LIKE A STEPPING STONE
TOWARDS ELIMINATING EVERY LIFE
WITHOUT PAROLE SENTENCE AND
GETTING THE SPONSOR'S SON WHO
MURDERED MY BROTHER OUT OF
PRISON. WHAT WHO DOES THIS HELP
KILLERS LIKE MICHAEL H. WHO
MURDERED HIS PREGNANT WIFE AND
MOTHER AFFORD TO CASH ON A LIFE
INSURANCE POLICY IN NINETEEN
EIGHTY ONE. MICHAEL'S DEATH
SENTENCE WITH RECENTLY
OVERTURNED BECAUSE OF THIS
DRAMATIC CHILDHOOD HE'S SEVENTY
ONE AND SERVING LIFE WITHOUT
PAROLE. ANOTHER KILLER KENNETH
ARE KIDNAPPED AND MURDERED SIX
YEAR OLD JEFFREY IN NINETEEN
EIGHTY ONE. AND IN NINETEEN
EIGHTY SIX KIDNAPPED AND
MURDERED ANOTHER SIX YEAR OLD
BOY MAKE UP. THE MURDERS WERE
RECENTLY SOLD THEIR DNA FULL
FAMILIES WAITED FORTY YEARS FOR
JUSTICE. SB NINETY FOUR ALLOWS
KILLERS OF PETITION AFTER TWENTY
FIVE YEARS. MANY KENNETH COULD
SPEND MORE TIME FREE FROM
PUNISHMENT THAT IN CUSTODY. I
CAN IS HEARING THE JUDGE WILL
NOT REVIEW WHAT HE DID TO THOSE
LITTLE BOYS THE JUDGE WILL ONLY
BE PRESENTED WAS SYMPATHETIC
INFORMATION ABOUT HIS DIFFICULT
CHILDHOOD AND IS ADVANCING AGE.
WHAT ABOUT THE VICTIMS OF
CHILDHOOD SAY HE'S STILL AND
THEIR YOUNG AGE. THE AUTHORS
UNDER SOME MISCONCEPTION ABOUT
INMATES AGING OUT OF COMMITTING
CRIMES. THAT IS A FANTASY
NEWSPAPER FOR ITS FIRST FULL OF
STORIES OF PAROLEES IN THEIR
FIFTIES SIXTIES AND SEVENTIES.
COMMITTING HORRIFIC ACTS. THERE
IS NO AGE LIMIT ON EVIL. IF THIS
BILL PASSES FAMILIES WILL HAVE
TO FIGHT TO BE RESENTENCED WILL
OCCUPY ID RESENTENCING HEARING.
POSSIBLY TWO TIMES OVER THE NEXT
SIX YEARS. THEN SPEND THE REST
OF THEIR LIVES RELIVING THE
HORROR OF OPPOSING PAROLE FACE
TO FACE WITH THESE KILLERS. IT
ONLY ENDS WHEN THE KILLER IS
RELEASED OR DEBT. SADLY VICTIMS
PROBABLY HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT THIS
BILL. RECENT AMENDMENTS CHERRY
PICKED UP TO SPECIAL
CIRCUMSTANCES AND MEET SOME OF
THE MURDERS THROUGHOUT MULTIPLE
VICTIMS INELIGIBLE. PEOPLE LIKE
CHARLES MANSON OR SOMEONE WHO
TORTURED AND STABBED TWO DOLLARS
A DAY WOULD STILL BE ELIGIBLE TO
FILE. AN SB NINETY WORK
CONDITIONS. SB FOUR STATE THAT
THESE CASES WE'RE- TRYING TODAY
THE LIFE WITHOUT PAROLE SENTENCE
WOULD NOT BE IMPOSED. THAT IS
FALSE BENEFICIARIES OF THIS BILL
WILL BE GIVING LENIENCY. THAT
CURRENT CONVICTED MURDERS DO NOT
GET TODAY. BECAUSE A PENAL CODE
THIRTEEN EIGHTY FIVE POINT ONE.
AS INTERSECTIONS IS ABOUT
JUSTICE AND REAL PUNISHMENT. ON
WHICH WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO
DEPEND ON. VICTIMS HAVE A
CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO
FINALITY. I ASK THAT YOU DO NOT
LET THIS BILL MOVE FORWARD.
THANK YOU. SIR CHAIR AND
COMMITTEE MEMBERS MY NAME IS
TODD RUBIN ON THE DISTRICT
ATTORNEY OF AMBER COUNTY SPEAK
IN BEHALF OF CDA. IN OPPOSITION
TO SP NINETY FOUR. DESPITE
RECENT AMENDMENTS SB NINETY FOUR
CONTINUES TO BY PASS THE WILL OF
THE PEOPLE OF CALIFORNIA WHO
VOTED TO PROHIBIT THE DISMISSAL
SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES. IN
NINETEEN NINETY WITH PROPOSITION
ONE FIFTEEN. SB NINETY FOUR
CONTINUES TO IMPOSE SUBSTANTIAL
AND NECESSARY IMPACTS UPON AN
ALREADY OVERWHELMED JUDICIAL
SYSTEM. WORSE SB NINETY FOUR
LIMITS ACCESS AND EXTENDS THE
WAIT TIME FOR PEOPLE OF
COMMITTED FAR LESS CRIMES
SERIOUS CRIMES TO SEEK RE
SENTENCING. SB NINETY FOUR
CONTINUES TO DO NOTHING TO WEED
OUT THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE
DEMONSTRATED AT LEAST SOME
FACTORS OF REDEMPTION AND
REHABILITATION FROM THOSE WHO
HAVE DONE NOTHING OR NEXT TO
NOTHING. SB NINETY FOUR
CONTINUES TO RE TRAUMATIZED THE
FAMILIES OF MURDER VICTIMS WITH
UP TO THREE RESENTENCING
HEARINGS FOR PEOPLE THEY WERE
PROMISED WOULD NEVER GET OUT.
OPENING OLD OLD SCARS AND
PSYCHOLOGICAL WOUNDS. SB NINETY
FOUR CONTINUES TO IGNORE THE
WILL OF THE UNANIMOUS JURY. THE
SENTENCING JUDGE AND APPELLATE
COURTS WHO REVIEWED ALL THE
EVIDENCE AND APPLY ALL THE
APPLICABLE LAWS AND SENTENCING
THE PETITIONER AND REVIEWING
THEIR CASE. SB NINETY FOUR
CONTINUES TO CLAIM THAT IT IS
NECESSARY WHEN PETITIONERS SENSE
THE L. Y. UP ALREADY HAVE THE
APPEAL PROCESS. THE RED PROCESS
THE RESENTENCING PROCESS BY
PENAL CODE SECTION ELEVEN
SEVENTY THE ONE. AND THE
CLEMENCY PROCESS. LASTLY SB
NINETY FOURS ON BALANCE IN ITS
ADMINISTRATION OF A LAW
COMPLETELY IGNORING VICTIMS AND
THEIR FAMILIES IN FACT. IF YOU
LOOK AT THAT BILL YOU WON'T FIND
THE WORD VICTIM ANYWHERE NOT
ONCE. FOR THESE REASONS CA URGES
US COMMITTED TO VOTE NO ON SB.
NINETY FOUR THANK YOU THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION. NAME AN ORGAN PLEASE
. MY NAME IS EVEN LEON WHAT THE
CALIFORNIA FAMILY COUNCIL AND I
OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK YOU SIR.
YOUR MEMBERS JOHNSON DOUBLED THE
CALIFORNIA POLICE CHIEFS
ASSOCIATION IN OPPOSITION THANK
YOU. GOOD MORNING PATTERSON US
ON BEHALF OF SINGLE COUNTY
DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IN
SAN DIEGO DISTRICT ATTORNEY
SUMMER STEPHAN IN OPPOSITION.
THANK YOU. THIS RETURN MEMBERS
COURSE ALSO ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA STATE SHERIFFS
ASSOCIATION IN OPPOSITION THANK
. SHARON HAD A ROOM MY SON DAVID
PETTIGREW WAS MURDERED AND I
STRONGLY OPPOSED SB. THANK YOU.
THE ANNUAL MUNSTER I'M THE
FAMILY OF A MURDERED VICTIM I
AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE THANK YOU
SIR. THE ANSWER ANY OF SAN
FRANCISCO FAMILY MEMBER OF A
MURDER VICTIM AND I STRONGLY
OPPOSE THANK YOU MATT. ALEXIS
TAYLOR SACRAMENTO FRIEND OF
MURDER VICTIM STRONGLY OPPOSE
THANK YOU. MISTER CHAIRMAN CARL
WANTED ON BEHALF OF CRIME
VICTIMS UNITED IN OPPOSITION TO
STILL THINK THANK YOU. DANONE
SAN DIEGO DEPUTY DISTRICT
ATTORNEY'S ASSOCIATION SAN
DIEGANS AGAINST CRIME STANDING
WITH VICTIMS IN OPPOSING THE
BILL THANK YOU. SURE MEMBERS
RYAN SCHUMER WITH THE RIVERSIDE
SHERIFF'S ASSOCIATION ALSO
REPRESENTED POLICE OFFICERS
ASSOCIATIONS ARCADIA BURBANK
CLAREMONT CORONA. CULVER CITY
FULLERTON MARIA NEWPORT BEACH
NEVADO DEL CERISE PRAMANA
RIVERSIDE SANAM UPLAND
CALIFORNIA RESERVE PEACE
OFFICERS ASSOCIATION AND THE
PEACE HERE SOLICITATIONS OF
MODERATE PLASTER COUNTY- HOLDEN
A POSITION. TODAY ALSO IN
OPPOSITION THE OFFICE OF PLASTER
COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY MORGAN
GEYER THANK YOU THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. MISTER CHAIRMAN READY
BEHALF OF PORAC CALIFORNIA
ASSOCIATION HAVE SHOWN
OPPOSITION THANK YOU. MANY
OTHERS IN OPPOSITION. WE'LL
BRING BACK COMMITTEE FOR MR
LACKEY. YES I COULD- THIS
QUESTION IS FOR MR RIGBY S. B.
NINETY FOUR STATES THE PROOF. OF
THE PRESENCE OF ONE OR MORE OF
THESE CIRCUMSTANCES WAYS GREATLY
IN FAVOR OF DISMISSING THE
SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCE UNLESS THE
COURT FINDS THAT THE PETITIONER
IS CURRENTLY AN UNREASONABLE
RISK OF DANGER TO PUBLIC SAFETY
. WHAT IS THE TECHNICAL
DEFINITION OF UNMENTIONABLE RISK
OF DANGER STANDARD AND HOW COULD
BE PROVEN IN COURT. YES I
BELIEVE IT'S AN ELEVEN SEVENTY
OF THE PENAL CODE- AND WHAT IT
SAYS IS- ONE SEVENTY POINT ONE
EIGHT AND THIS. SMALL CHARACTER
TO THE MIGHT REFERRED TO SPACES
STRIKES THAT WE. SO EVERYBODY
STARTS IF WE CAN'T PROVE THAT
THEY- THAT THE TO COMMIT THE
IT'S VERY DIFFICULT OVER. THAT
PRESUMPTION THAT BIRD NOW
CERTAINLY THEY'VE COMMITTED ONE
OF THOSE WITH A MURDER BUT I'LL
BE AT IT IS IT'S BEEN- BROKEN UP
BY- AT LEAST TWENTY FIVE YEARS
SO AT LEAST WE HAVE THAT GOING.
IF YOU'RE TRYING TO STOP A
RELEASE AND YOU CAN ALSO TAKE A
LOOK AT INSTITUTIONAL BEHAVIOR
YOU CAN ALSO TAKE A LOOK AT
THEIR PROGRAMMING- HAVE THEY
COMMITTED ANY OTHER CRIME SINCE
IT BEEN INCARCERATED. BUT YOU'RE
RIGHT IT IS A VERY DIFFICULT
BURDEN FOR THE PROSECUTION AND
FOR VICTIMS AND VICTIMS FAMILIES
TO OVERCOME THAT BURDEN BY
SHOWING THAT THERE ARE CURRENTLY
UNREASONABLE RISK OF DANGER. TO
PUBLIC SAFETY AS DEFINED. SO
IT'S QUITE UNLIKELY SO PARTY.
HELLO I AND MAKE SURE EXEMPTS
FROM THE MANY REAL. PROGRAMS YOU
KNOW. AND ALL THE SUDDEN IS IT
POSSIBLE THAT WILL BE SENDING
PEOPLE TO THE PAROLE BOARD AND
LIKELY EVEN RELEASED. I'VE SPENT
AT LEAST TWENTY FIVE YEARS
WITHOUT ANY REHABILITATION
TREATMENT. WELL THANK YOU FOR
THE QUESTION IS A MEMBER OF. THE
WAY THAT THE WAY THAT THE BILL
ACTUALLY WORKS PROCESS ACTUALLY
WORKS IS. STEP ONE WOULD BE A
PETITION TO A JUDGE QUALIFIED-
THAT INDIVIDUAL THAT YOU'RE
SPEAKING OF- TO BEGIN THE PAROLE
PROCESS TO BE TO GET INTO THE
PROCESS OF A PAROLE HEARINGS AT
WHICH POINT- AS YOU APTLY POINT
OUT. CERTAIN REHABILITATION
PROGRAMS IN OUR PRISON SYSTEM
WHICH- WHICH IS A SYSTEM
PREDICATED. ON THE POSSIBILITY
OF REHABILITATION. DOES BEEN. GO
THOSE PROGRAMS WITHIN TAKE
AFFECT- ONE OF THE PROBLEMS THAT
WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. IS THAT WE
HAVE INMATES- IN YOUR HERD OF
MISS BUSTAMANTE TALK ABOUT THAT
WHO WERE- IN CDCR- WHO.
ESSENTIALLY HAVE. NO POSSIBILITY
OF EVEN GETTING INTO BASIC
REHABILITATION PROGRAMS LIKE
WORK PROGRAMS AND OTHER KINDS OF
PROGRAMS- THAT- THAT WOULD BE
AVAILABLE SO. WE THINK IT'S A
GOOD THING THAT- INMATES- IN
CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES A PURPLE
BUT JUDGE FEELS THAT THAT'S
APPROPRIATE UNDER THE
CIRCUMSTANCES WOULD. WOULD NOW
BE ELIGIBLE. FOR THOSE VERY
PROGRAMS AT YOUR POINT YOU KNOW.
I FIND THIS TO BE VERY VERY
DISHEARTENING. THAT AND IT SHOWS
THE IMBALANCE THAT WE COME TO
AND THIS CONSIDERATION. AND THE
OVER FOCUS ON- OFFENDERS- WE
HEAR A LOT ABOUT THE TALK OF
CHANGE. AND REFERS ONLY TO- TWO
OFFENDERS BECAUSE IT DISMISSES
FIFTEEN CONSIDERATION. WHAT
HASN'T CHANGED AND DOESN'T HAVE
THE ABILITY TO CHANGE IS THE
FINAL DAY OF MANY OF THESE
OFFENSES. LOOTING DEATH. AND I
FIND THIS TO BE AN IMBALANCE IN
OUR CONSIDERATION AND I THINK
IT'S UNFAIR. AND I'M JUST TIRED
OF IT I'M TIRED OF IT AND I
THINK THAT. THE RECORD THE
CITIZENS OF THIS GREAT STATE AND
COUNTRY. ARE ALSO TIRED OF IT.
AND I THINK THAT WE NEED A MORE
BALANCED CONSIDERATION EVERYBODY
THIS IS EXTREME WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT LIFE WITHOUT THE
POSSIBILITY OF PAROLE THAT WAS
THE SENTENCE. WHAT CHANGED IN
THE VICTIM'S WORLD. YOU TELL ME
WHAT CHANGED IN THE VICTIM'S
WORLD AND I'LL SAY VERY LITTLE
ESPECIALLY IF THEY ARE NO LONGER
ALIVE. SO I FIND THIS TO BE
UNREASONABLE PROPOSAL AND IT
WILL GO WITHOUT MY SUPPORT.
MISTER MAGIC. MISTER ALEX. HOW
DID YOU COME UP WITH THE- SET OF
CIRCUMSTANCES OF THOSE THAT WERE
INELIGIBLE FOR THIS BILL. YOU
KNOW WE'VE WORKED ON A DIFFERENT
VERSION OF THIS BILL THAT WAS- I
GUESS ONE WOULD BE ONE WAY TO
PUT IT WOULD BE MORE BROAD- IT
LAST IN THE LAST TWO YEAR
SESSION AND- FRANKLY- IT WAS IT
WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION
THAT. THE THE EXEMPTIONS AROUND
PEACE OFFICERS CERTAIN PUBLIC
OFFICIALS- WAS IMPORTANT IT WAS
VERY IMPORTANT TO PEOPLE PEOPLE
HERE IN THE LEGISLATURE WEREN'T
READY- YOU KNOW TO. TO PROCEED
EVEN WITH A BASIC PETITION FOR
CONSIDERATION. AROUND THOSE
PARTICULAR CIRCUMSTANCES SO.
ESSENTIALLY THAT'S- YOU KNOW WE
ACTUALLY LAST IN THE LAST TWO
YEAR SESSION THE PREDECESSOR TO
THIS BILL- WE AMENDED OUT THOSE
PROVISIONS WHICH- A STOOD ON THE
FLOOR IN IN- COMMITTED TO DOING
THAT IN IN IN THIS BILL WE DOUBT
OF THE SAME THING. THANK YOU AND
I'LL SEE- ASSEMBLY MEMBER
LACKING I COMING FROM LAW
ENFORCEMENT APPRECIATE THAT
PORTION BUT- I ALSO WANT TO
THANK THOSE THAT CAME UP. WHO
WERE VICTIMS OR FAMILIES WERE
BECOMING VICTIMS THAT CAME UP
AND SAID AND SPOKE HERE TODAY I
ALSO WANT TO ADDRESS THAT WHAT
ABOUT THEIR FAMILIES DID DID ARE
THEY NOT AS GOOD AS A POLICE
OFFICER THAT WAS KILLED OR ALL
THE OTHER CIRCUMSTANCES. THIS
THIS IS A BIG THING THAT COMES
UP TO ALL THESE VICTIMS AND I'M
SURE IF MORE PEOPLE KNEW ABOUT
THIS THEY WOULD BE FLOODING THE
HALLWAYS. TO BE HERE AND TESTIFY
THAT THERE IN OPPOSITION OF
THIS- BUT ONE THING I ALSO WANT
TO POINT OUT WITH WITH LIKE THE
LAW ENFORCEMENT PORTION- FOR
PEACE OFFICER TO BE KILLED IT IT
USED TO BE A DEATH SENTENCE. BUT
CALIFORNIA WOULD CHANGE THAT SO
NOW IT IS LIFE WITHOUT PAROLE
AND- FOR THE THAT GOT THAT MY
WITHOUT PAROLE NINE FOR LAW
ENFORCEMENT JUST FOR ANY
CIRCUMSTANCE THAT HAPPENED. THAT
WAS THE SENTENCE THAT WAS OKAY
AT THE TIME. AND UNFORTUNATELY
OR FORTUNATELY THAT'S WHAT THEY
HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT I SEE THIS
IS THIS RE VICTIMIZING FAMILIES
AGAIN WITH OUR OWN SYSTEM WITH
THEIR OWN GOVERNMENT. ONE OTHER
THING I WANT TO POINT OUT- AND
I'M SORRY AND I'M NOT REALLY
ASKING YOU QUESTIONS- WITH. WITH
CDC CDC ARE. IS THERE ACTUALLY
THERE'S I GUESS IS THE QUESTION.
HOW DO WE- PLAN TO MAYBE ASK
THEM OR PREPARE THEM IF THIS
BILL DOES GO FORWARD. TO HAVE
PROGRAMS AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE
WHO HAVE LIFE WITHOUT PAROLE
BECAUSE I'M ASSUMING CDCR IS A
PROVIDING THOSE PROGRAMS.
BECAUSE WHY SHOULD PAY THE THESE
PEOPLE ARE GONNA COME OUT
ANYWAYS THEY'RE NOT GET NEED TO
BE REHABILITATED SO IS THERE A
PLAN FOR THAT. IF PROGRAMS
EXISTS. WHEN THERE IS THE
POSSIBILITY OF PAROLE CURRENTLY
I THINK THAT'S WHAT MR LACKEY
WAS POINTING OUT. AND- THE WHAT
THIS BILL DOES OR WILL DO IS
THAT. UPON IN THOSE RARE CASES
WHERE A JUDGE WOULD ALLOW A
CHANGE FROM. A WALL- TO LIFE
WITHOUT PAROLE. THAT'S THE
DIFFERENCE THAT'S WHAT THE BILL
. ALLOWS IN THOSE WERE SIX
CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE JUDGE WOULD
SAY- THIS PERSON AFTER TWENTY
FIVE YEARS AT FIFTY FIVE SIXTY
SEVEN YEARS OLD WHATEVER THE
CASE MAY BE. OF IS NOW ELIGIBLE
FOR PAROLE- IT IS IT REALLY A
REHABILITATION PROGRAM FOR
SOMEBODY WITH L. UP ANY LONGER
IS JUST THE REHABILITATION
PROGRAM FOR SOMEBODY WHO KNOWS A
SENTENCE OF. LIFE WITHOUT PAROLE
IN THOSE PROGRAMS EXIST NOW SO-
IT MAKES HIM ELIGIBLE AND- YOU
KNOW IT'S I DON'T KNOW WHAT GOOD
IT DOES TO ANYONE WITH- ALL DUE
RESPECT TO EVERY. HORRIBLE
TRAGEDY THAT'S OCCURRED- TO DENY
SOMEBODY WHO'S IN FOR LIFE- THE
OPPORTUNITY IN A REHABILITATIVE
SYSTEM TO PARTICIPATE A
REHABILITATIVE. WORK WALT WALT
CARCERI- BUT THE BUT THAT'S THE
IDEA WITH THAT IT'S NOT
SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY
EMPHASIZED IN THE BILL BUT
THAT'S- THE WAY THAT WOULD WORK
AS TO YOUR COMMENT OR QUESTION
ABOUT. FINALITY. OBVIOUSLY WE
HEARD. WE HEARD THE FOR WITNESS
TODAY TALK TO HAVING SINCE
COMMUTED IT WAS NO WALKS
SENTENCE- IN STATES ACROSS THE
UNITED STATES. I BELIEVE ALL
FIFTY STATES BUT- DON'T QUOTE ME
ON THAT- BUT IN PLACES LIKE
FLORIDA FOR EXAMPLE- THE
GOVERNOR'S COMMUTE SENTENCES
GOVERNOR'S FROM BOTH POLITICAL
PARTIES COMMUTE SENTENCES. SO
FINALITY IS NOT SOMETHING THAT
EXISTS FUNDAMENTALLY AS HAS BEEN
PUT FORWARD- IN IN ANY SENTENCE-
WE HAVE WITNESSED HERE TODAY
THAT TESTIFIED. THAT THAT SHE
WAS IN FOR A WALK SHE HAD A
PARTICULARLY I THINK- UNUSUAL
SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES. THAT HAD A
JUDGE. I'VE ALLOWED AT SOME
POINTS TO CONSIDER HER PETITION
. JUDGE MAY HAVE COME TO THE
SAME OR SIMILAR CONCLUSION JUDGE
WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO
COMMUTER SENTENCE A RELEASE PER
BUT HE WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO
SAY YOU'RE AT LEAST ELIGIBLE FOR
PAROLE HEARINGS NOW. AND MISS
BUSTAMANTE WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE
TO ENGAGE IN REHABILITATION
PROGRAMS AND START GOING THROUGH
THE PAROLE PROCESS IT SHOULD THE
PAROLE BOARD COUNT HER AS ONE OF
THE SIXTEEN PERCENT- THAT THEY
GRANT PAROLE TO SHE WOULD THEN.
HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET
BEFORE THE GOVERNOR- SO IT IT
WOULD IT WOULD HAVE DONE IN
THREE STEPS FOR MISS BUSTAMANTE
WHAT SHE WAS SO FORTUNATE TO. BE
THE BENEFICIARY OF TO USE
SOMEBODY'S WORD- IN ONE STEP
WITH THE GUBERNATORIAL
COMPUTATION BUT EITHER WAY- I
GET IT FROM A VICTIM STAMP-
THERE'S- THERE THERE'S NO.
LEVINE ALITY IN THE WITH PAROLE
CARD THERE- BUT THAT IS SOURCES
IN A FEW PEOPLE SAID HERE THE
HEARING THAT'S NOT OUR SYSTEM
BUT IT IS IN FACT OUR SYSTEM SO.
WE ARE CREATING A THREE STEP
PROCESS THAT IT SIMPLY ALLOWS
JUDICIAL DISCRETION WHERE AT
SENTENCING TIME. NOT OCCURRED
MISPLACED MONTES OF FACTS ONCE A
JURY DECIDED THAT UNDER THE
SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES- SENSING
SCHEME. THAT SHE WAS GUILTY OF
THE CRIME- THE JUDGE HAD NO
POWER. NO ABILITY- TO ALTER THAT
TO WITH PAROLE THOUGH. SHE HAD-
BY OUR OWN TESTIMONY A
SIGNIFICANT IF NOT ALMOST
NONEXISTENT. ACTUAL ROLLED
FACTUAL ROLE IN WHAT HAPPENED-
IN IN AGAIN IN THE RARE
CIRCUMSTANCE. THAT THAT SOMEBODY
CAN. GET A PETITION GRANTED WE
DON'T EVEN KNOW THE JUDGE IS
GOING TO. GRANT THE PETITION GET
THE PETITION GRANTED GIVE ME FOR
THE JUDGE AND HAVE THE JUDGE
LOOK AT A SET OF FACTS LIKE THAT
AND SAY I THINK WE NEED TO START
GETTING YOU BEFORE PAROLE BOARD
WE THINK THAT SHOULD HAPPEN- BUT
NOBODY HERE IS JUDGING- THAT
ANYONE SHOULD BE RELEASED. IN
TERMS OF AUTHORSHIP OF THIS BILL
NOBODY HERE BY ANY MEANS IS
JUDGING THAT THESE MOST HEINOUS
IN. WEARABLE CIRCUMSTANCES WITH
PERPETRATORS WHO HAVE- WHO HAVE
OFFENDED- WHERE JUDGES ARE
EXTRAORDINARILY UNLIKELY. TO BE
SYMPATHETIC YOU KNOW THAT THAT
SHOULD BE CHANGED AND NOBODY'S
CHANGING THE SPECIAL
CIRCUMSTANCES LAW HERE IN THIS
BILL. WE'RE JUST SAYING ALLOW
THAT STEP UP WITH OF A PRE
PETITION AT A HEARING AT THE
JUDICIAL LEVEL TO SEE A CRUEL
MAKES SENSE. OKAY I HAVE ONE
MORE QUESTION I OF THE
OPPOSITION WARRANT- I'M SORRY
FOR YOUR CIRCUMSTANCES WHILE
YOU'RE HERE- WERE YOU- WERE YOU
EVER MAYBE NOTIFY THE CDC ARE
DID YOU EVER LIKE TO KNOW THAT
THERE WOULD BE HEARINGS OR
ANYTHING LIKE THAT IN YOUR
CIRCUMSTANCES- SO BECAUSE ALL
THE PEOPLE THAT ARE CONVICTED OF
FIRST DEGREE MURDER WITH SPECIAL
CIRCUMSTANCE THAT KILLED MY
PARENTS THEY- ALL RECEIVE LIKE.
PAROLE I DID NOT REGISTER I'M
NOT REGISTERED TO BE NOTIFIED
ABOUT. THE ROLE OR RELEASED FOR
ANY OF THAT. SO IF THIS IS
REALLY GOING TO AFFECT- ALL
THOSE PEOPLE FOR THE CASES-
THOSE PEOPLE BEFORE. NINETEEN
NINETY EARLIER THOUGHT OF THE
HIGHER REGISTER TO BE NOTIFIED
SO THEY'RE NOT EVEN NOW THAT
THERE'S A PAROLE BOARD HEARING
BECAUSE- THEY WERE TOLD. THEY
NEVER PEOPLE. REALLY SO THEY-
I'M NOT REGISTERED I DON'T THINK
THAT THEY BE WANT ONE SENATOR
AND SO MISTER. DO YOU HAVE A
SALUTE TO THAT ON YOUR END MAYBE
FOR VICTIMS. WELL IT'S OF
REGULAR. THAT THE OFFICE OF
VICTIMS SURVIVORS SURVIVE RIGHTS
ANSWER. WITHIN CITY. HAS IT'S A
REGULATION THAT THEY PROPOSE
THAT YOU HAVE TO BE REGISTERED
IN ORDER TO BE NOTIFIED OF AN
UPCOMING HEARING WHICH THEY HAVE
THE RIGHT UNDER. THE CALIFORNIA
CONSTITUTION UNDER MARSY'S OUGHT
TO ATTEND SUPPOSED SENTENCING
HEARING SO THEY HAVE THAT RIGHT
BUT- AGAIN- AND LOW I THINK VERY
ELOQUENTLY STATED THE DILEMMA.
OF THEY WERE TOLD THEY WERE
NEVER GOING TO GET OUT THEY GOT
LIFE WITHOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF
PAROLE THERE WAS NO REASON TO
REGISTER. AND MORE THAN TWENTY
FIVE OR MORE YEARS HAVE PASSED
TRACKING THEM DOWN WE WOULD NEED
MORE TIME TO DO THAT AND THAT
WOULD COME DOWN TO THE VICTIMS-
WITNESS OFFICES LOCATED WITHIN
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICES
OR- IN NONPROFITS WITH IN SOME
COUNTIES- TO DO THAT- AND WE
WOULD HAVE TO GET AROUND THAT
REGULATION. WHICH IS THE SUBJECT
OF ANOTHER BILL I BELIEVE IT
WAS- SB FOUR TWELVE. TO GET
AROUND THE DRESS CODE- TIME
LIMITS THAT THEY HAVE SO WE
COULD NOTIFY VICTIMS. THAT HEY
THIS IS HAPPENING YOU HAVE A
RIGHT TO BE THERE. YOU HAVE THE
RIGHT TO SAY YOUR PIECE AND YOU
THINK YOUR OFFICE AS A RESOURCES
TO. FOLLOW UP WITH ALL THAT.
WELL ALL THIS DA'S OFFICES ARE
STRUGGLING STATEWIDE WITH THE
NUMBER OF PROSECUTORS RECRUITING
AND RETAINING IT'S A PROBLEM.
WITH THAT DEFENSE ATTORNEYS WITH
ABOUT PUBLIC DEFENDERS AS WELL
SO I WOULD HAVE TO SAY. WHAT WE
WOULD TRY THE BEST THAT WE COULD
TO MAKE IT A PRIORITY- AND WE
GET THE JOB DONE BUT WE WOULD
HAVE TO HAVE SOME RELEASE. FROM
CDC ARE ON THESE DRACONIAN TIME
LIMITS THAT THEY IMPOSE. THANK
YOU AND CENTER I'M I'M SURE YOU
KNOW RELATED TO IF YOU WANT TO
BUDGET. I JUST WANT TO GET ON
THE RECORD BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE
IF IT WAS CLEAR COMING IN- YOU
KNOW THE- THE FACT THAT. NUMBER
ONE- WERE SYMPATHETIC.
ABSOLUTELY TO VICTIM
NOTIFICATION IN VICTIM RIGHTS TO
BE A POST CONVICTION HEARING I
WANT TO ASK MISS- MINSKER.
EXPLAINED THE AMENDMENT WE'VE
DONE THUS FAR. AND CERTAINLY OF
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY OR IF
SOMEBODY ELSE HAS. A SOMETHING
ELSE THAT WE CAN PUT IN AS- AN
AUGMENTED- A NOTIFICATION
PROCESS- THAT'S VERY CONSISTENT
WITH THE INTENT OF THE BILL
NOBODY'S TRIED IN THIS BILL IN
ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM TO GET
AROUND- YOU KNOW VICTIMS
PARTICIPATION HEARINGS ARE
VICTIMS RIGHTS WE RESPECT THOSE.
DEEPLY AS WELL AS THE DILEMMA.
THEY FIND THEMSELVES IN. SB
NINETY HAS BEEN A MAN THE BILL
IMPRINT ROOF. THIS LANGUAGE. ANY
PROCEEDING UNDER THIS BILL IS
CONSIDERED UNDER MARSY'S LAW IN
THE CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION TO
BE A- HOST RELEASE PROCEEDING
AND THAT THE PROVISIONS OF THE
CONSTITUTION MUST BE FOLLOWED
THE BILL NOW SPECIFICALLY STATES
WHAT THAT MEANS THAT THE
DISTRICT ATTORNEY. MUST NOTIFY
THE VICTIMS THAT HAVE REQUESTED
NOTIFICATION AND ALSO THAT THE
COURT MUST GIVE VICTIMS AN
OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD. THIS
AGAIN IS FOR VICTIMS WHO
REQUESTED TO BE NOTIFIED BUT AT
THE TIME. THEY DON'T EVEN THINK
THAT THERE'S GONNA EVEN BE
SOMETHING TO REQUEST BECAUSE
IT'S A LIFE WITHOUT PAROLE WELL
AS SENATOR CORTESE HAS SAID ALL
OF THESE CASES ARE ALSO SUBJECT
TO GOVERNOR ACTION THROUGH
COMPUTATION. AND SO IT'S REALLY
AN INDIVIDUAL CHOICE SOME OF THE
VICTIMS HAVE REGISTERED BECAUSE
THEY KNOW THAT THERE IS THE
POSSIBILITY OF GUBERNATORIAL
ACTION AND SOME HAVE NOT AND IT
AND IT REALLY REFLECTS THE
DIVERSITY OF RANGE OF VICTIMS
VIEWS. I WILL SAY THAT WERE
ABSOLUTELY IS CENTER CORTESE
SAID THE CENTER REMAINS OPEN TO
DISCUSSIONS WITH THEIR SPECIFIC
LANGUAGE RELATED TO VICTIM
NOTIFICATION OR PARTICIPATION
THAT WOULD ADDRESS THESE
CONCERNS ABSOLUTELY THE SENATOR
IS OPEN TO HEARING THOSE
SUGGESTIONS WHY I THINK IT WOULD
ONLY BE FAIR THAT IN THE BILL
THAT THERE IS SOMETHING WRITTEN
THAT YOU HAVE TO AT LEAST MAKE
SOME KIND OF INTENT. TO FIND AND
SEEK OUT THESE VICTIMS TO NOTIFY
THEM AND JUST THAT ARE JUST
LEAVING IT BLANK LIKE- THEY
SHOULD COME TO US. I AGAIN LIKE
I POINTED OUT I'M SURE WE WOULD
HAVE A LONG LINE OF VICTIMS HERE
OPPOSING THIS BUT NOT EVERYBODY
KNEW ABOUT THAT SO I WOULD
SUGGEST. AT LEAST MAYBE AND
ADDING THAT TO YOUR BILL AS
WELL. THANK YOU. THE TECHNICIAN
. CERTEZA I. HAD A QUICK. FOR
AUTHOR. DID IS BAIL. ITEM LET
ANY OUT OF PRISON. NO CAN YOU
ELABORATE MORE. IT IT. THIS BILL
ALLOWS SOMEONE. UNDER ON L. UP.
TO PETITION. FOR A JUDICIAL
HEARING. WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT BE
GRANTED. BASED ON THE MERITS OF
THE PETITION. IF GRANTED. IT
THEN BECOMES THE DISCRETION OF
THE JUDGE. OF WHETHER TO TAKE
ANY ACTION ON THE PETITION. IN
THE ONLY. REMEDIES AVAILABLE FOR
THAT JUDGE THE ONLY ACTION
AVAILABLE. WOULD BE IN EFFECT TO
CHANGE. L. WALKED. TO LIVE WITH
THE POSSIBILITY OF PAROLE. SO NO
RELEASE THERE'S NO THE JUDGE
CAN'T RELEASE ANYONE UNDER THIS
BILL. MISTER BRYANT. THANK YOU
OF SENATOR FOR BRING THIS AND
THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION WILL
FOLLOW THE SAME LINE OF
QUESTIONING. SO THIS DOES NOT
REQUIRE THE JUDGE TO DO ANYTHING
. LET'S SAY THE JUDGE DOES
RESENTENCED TO LIFE WITH THE
POSSIBILITY OF PAROLE. DOES THAT
AUTOMATICALLY RELEASED ANYBODY.
NO AND IT IS A MATTER OF FACT-
IS- I NOTED IN THE PRESENTATION
I THINK- CURRENTLY- THE PAROLE
BOARD. ROUTE THE PAROLE BOARD-
QUALIFIES ABOUT 16% TOTAL- OF-
THOSE SAID THEY GO BEFORE THE
PAROLE BOARD FOR HEARINGS FOR
POTENTIAL RELEASE. AND EVEN THEY
CAN'T RELEASE- THAT HAS TO GO TO
THE GOVERNOR FOR RATIFICATION AS
WE SAW RECENTLY WITH SURE HANDS
OR HAND THAT DID NOT HAPPEN
THOUGH HE WAS NOT L. WHAT
BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY ELIGIBLE FOR
PAROLE FROM DAY ONE. AS I
UNDERSTAND IT BUT THE POINT
BEING. THAT THE JUDGE AT THAT
THE GOVERNOR HAS THE FINAL SAY
SO THERE'S REALLY QUITE THERE'S
LITERALLY IN THIS CASE. CHECKS
AND BALANCES FROM THE G.
JUDICIAL SIDE. TO THE
ADMINISTRATIVE PROCURING HEARING
SIDE. TO THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH.
SO LEVELS OF CHECKS AND BALANCES
LET ME MAKE SURE THAT I'VE GOT
THIS PROCESS CORRECTLY- SOMEBODY
HAS BEEN SENTENCED TO- I WALKED.
AFTER NEARLY THREE DECADES TWO
AND A HALF DECADES THEY COULD
THEN PETITION THE COURTS. ONLY
THEN THE COURTS WOULD HERE IF
THEY HAD. SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES
IN THE PETITION OR THINGS THAT
THAT- ADDED CLARITY TO THE CASE
FOR EXAMPLE AS WAS MENTIONED IN
THE TESTIMONY AND- VICTIM BEING
WRITTEN IN THE BILL IF THEY WERE
A VICTIM OF INTIMATE PARTNER
VIOLENCE SEXUAL VIOLENCE HUMAN
TRAFFICKING. OR ANYTHING OF THAT
THE JUDGE COULD THEN AFTER
FINDING ALL OF THESE THINGS OUT
REVIEWING ALL THE CASES
REVIEWING ALL THE DATA FROM THE
DEPARTMENT DECIDED TO RE
SENTENCE LIFE WITHOUT PROSPERITY
MY THE POSITIVE ROLE TO. WITH
ROLE WHICH THEN YOU WOULD THEN
PETITIONS THE PAROLE BOARD OR TO
HAVE YOUR PAROLE DATE. THEY ONLY
HEAR 16% OF PEOPLE PETITIONED
THE BOARD. THEY THEN COULD
APPROVE YOU TO BE RELEASED BUT
THERE HAS TO BE CONFIRMED BY THE
GOVERNOR WHO HAS SHOWN THE CARGO
TO NOT ALWAYS DO THAT. THAT'S
THAT WOULD BE ALL WAY TO A BIG
COOLEY HOME AFTER AT LEAST
TWENTY FIVE YEARS. THAT'S RIGHT
IN BECAUSE THESE ARE. CREEK
NINETEEN NINETY CRIMES. IN MOST
CASES AS I THINK MISS MINSKER
SAID IN HER TESTIMONY. DOING THE
MATH YOU'RE YOU'RE DEALING WITH
AN AGE GROUP THAT IS ESSENTIALLY
FIFTY THREE YEARS OR OLDER RIGHT
NOW- WE DON'T KNOW WHEN
PETITIONS WOULD BE HEARD. BILL
OBVIOUSLY WOULDN'T TAKE EFFECT
UNTIL TWENTY TWENTY FOUR
OBVIOUSLY. YOU KNOW JUST AS AN
ACTUARIAL ISSUE THIS IS PEOPLE
ARE GONNA GET OLDER AND OLDER
AND OLDER UNDER THIS BILL-
BECAUSE THIS BILL DOESN'T HAVE
ANY PROVISION FOR MOVING BEYOND
NINETEEN NINETY. CRIMES AND I'D
CRIMES COMMITTED BEFORE NINETEEN
NINETY AND THAT'S THE SAME
WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S A LATE
CONVICTION OR SUBSCRIPT FICTION
OR NOT I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT.
THE AGE OF. OF THESE DEFENDANTS-
SO IF YOU'RE CONVICTED TODAY AND
YOU'RE SEVENTY ONE YEARS OLD.
YOU'VE GOT TWENTY FIVE YEARS TO
GO. ON A PRE NINETEEN NINETY
CRIME- SO YOU KNOW YOU'RE NINETY
SIX. AND NINETY SIX YOU CAN
PETITION THE JUDGE SAY- I
QUALIFY FOR. A HEARING THE JUDGE
MAY NOT EVEN AGREE WITH THAT IF
HE DOES THEN EVERYTHING YOU
SAID. IN IN YOUR RECAP- WOULD
TAKE PLACE AT NINETY SIX YEARS
OLD MAYBE NINETY SEVEN BY THE
TIME THE HEARING OCCURS THAT
INDIVIDUAL- CAN BEGIN. A
REHABILITATION AND GETTING
CORPORAL. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU
CAN BE MORE MEASURE- IN THIS
APPROACH- AND I DON'T KNOW HOW
WE ACCOUNT FOR SITUATIONS LIKE
MISUSED MANY MANY MANY OTHERS
WITHOUT THESE POTENTIAL OPTIONS
THIS ONE HAVING MANY MANY
SAFEGUARDS BY MANY. STAKEHOLDERS
I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT TODAY AND
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING BEFORE'S.
THANK YOU. YOUR REMARK COMMENT
TWO QUESTIONS. YOU MAY CLOSE MR
CRITICS OF. AT FIRST WHAT WATER
THANK EVERYONE FOR THE
DISCUSSION IN FOR THE GREAT
POINTS- HE DOES SOME OF YOU
HAVE. OFFERED UP IN INCLUDING
THE OPPOSITION TESTIMONY OF
THINGS THAT WERE WILLING TO KEEP
LOOKING AT WE'VE WORKED IN
AMENDED WORKING AMENDED YOU KNOW
TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE
HAVING ANY UNINTENDED
CONSEQUENCES HERE AGAIN ON THE
VICTIMS OF. A NOTIFICATION
ISSUE- YOU KNOW WE WOULD WE
WOULD LIKE TO DO WHATEVER IS
WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THIS BILL-
YOU KNOW OR PERHAPS FALL WITH
ANOTHER BILL THAT HAS TO BE A
SEPARATE SCOPE- TO DEAL WITH-
MORE FORMATIVE NOTIFICATION
PROCESS IT'S NOT IT'S NOT
SOMETHING THAT WE CREATED WITH
BILL OBVIOUSLY BUT- WE
UNDERSTAND HOW THAT WORKS IN
SOME TENSION WITH THE BILL- THAT
SAID- I APPRECIATED SOME OF
BRYANT'S COMMENTS- THE BILL IS
MEASURED. WITH WORKED ON IT A
LONG TIME WE'VE TAKEN IN- THIS
KIND OF THE DEBATE AND
DISCUSSION AND INPUT. NOW WITH
SOME VERSION OF THIS BILL OVER
THE LAST TWO AND A HALF YEARS
LITERALLY. A MEMBER BY MEMBER BY
MEMBER THROUGH THE SENATE AND
THE ASSEMBLY COMMITTEE BY
COMMITTEE BY COMMITTEE AND- IT
HERE ASIDE FROM THE NOTIFICATION
ISSUE- WHICH AGAIN WE'RE HAPPY
TO TACKLE. FURTHER I DON'T KNOW
HOW MUCH MORE MEASURED WE COULD
BE. UP TO ALLOW OF THIS BALANCE
OF. CHECKS AND BALANCES SO FOLKS
DO NOT GET- THE POSSIBILITY OF
PAROLE WHO SHOULDN'T BUT TO
ALLOW. THE FOLKS. THAT ARE ALIKE
OR WITNESS MISPLACED AMONTE A TO
HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY IN IF ONE
PERSON. YOUR PER DECADE- NEEDS
AND DESERVES THAT OPPORTUNITY
BECAUSE OF THE UNDERLYING
CIRCUMSTANCES OF THE CASE. THIS
BILL WILL PROVIDE THAT
OPPORTUNITY- BUT NOT OTHERS AND
THAT'S WHAT WE'D LIKE YOU TO
CONSIDER THANK YOU AND I
RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR RIVAL. THE
DAILY IS A LIVELY TO. A LOT WENT
ON AND I WANT TO THANK YOU. FOR
BEING HERE TODAY- IT TAKES A LOT
OF COURAGE TO COME BEFORE THIS
COMMITTEE SO I. AND YOU BROUGHT
TO LIGHT. SOMETHING THAT I COULD
MISTER CORTESE'S GONNA TAKE TO
HEART ABOUT NOTIFICATION THIS IS
PROBABLY THE FOURTH OR FIFTH
TIME NOTIFYING VICTIMS HAS BEEN
A CONCERN BY VICTIMS BRING THAT
TO US SO- I THINK THAT'S
SOMETHING WE I THINK I NOTICED
SOMETHING WE NEED TO REALLY WORK
ON THAT- IS THERE A MOTION.
SECOND HELLO. SB NINE FOUR BY
SENATOR CARTIER'S THE MOTION IS
TO PASS TO THE APPROPRIATIONS
COMMITTEE JONES SAWYER HI GENSER
ALANIZ ALANIZ SNOW BONTA. BONTA
HI BRIAN BRIAN HI LACKEY NO
MACKEY NO ORTEGA ORTEGA HI
SANTIAGO. JACKSON JACKSON I. THE
MEASURE PASSES. THANK YOU ALL
VERY MUCH. POLICE SOUTHERN
MINUTES HERE. FOR ITEM NUMBER
ELEVEN S. B. TWO FOUR ONE. OKAY
. YOU KNOW I HAVE A. BUT I HAVE
MADE SOME OF. THE BATHROOM.
ELEVEN TO TWENTY. OKAY GONNA GET
TO ITEM AS TWO FOUR SENATE AMEND
FOR THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR
MEMBERS THE COMMITTEE I'D LIKE
TO START I GUESS SAYING WE ARE
ACCEPTING THE COMMITTEES. SB TWO
ONE REQUIRE FIRE DEALER AND
THEIR EMPLOYEES TO COMPLETE CHU-
THE COVERS FEDERAL AND LAWS
GOVERNING THE SALE AND TRANSFER
OF FIREARMS AND AMMUNITION
INCLUDING HOW TO RECOGNIZE
INDICATORS THAN AN INDIVIDUAL
MAY INTEND TO USE A FIREARM FOR
FRAUDULENT ACTIVITY UNLAWFUL
PURPOSES OR SELF HARM. FOR THEFT
AND BURGLARY PREVENTION RULES OF
SELF HANDLE A FIREARM HANDLING
AND STORAGE AND OTHER REASONABLE
BUSINESS PRINT PRACTICES TO
DETERMINE GUN TRAFFICKING OR THE
UNLAWFUL USE OF FIREARMS ACCESS
TO GUNS IT'S BEEN. REPEATEDLY
SHOWN TO BE A COULD DRIVE OF
CHRONIC VIOLENCE AND AS WE ALL
KNOW WELL ILLEGAL OFF GUNS ARE
OFTEN BEHIND CRIMES- THE OFTEN
BEGIN AS LEGAL FIREARMS
INITIALLY SOLD BY DEALERS AND
THEN SUBSEQUENTLY FILED ALL INTO
AN ILLEGAL MARKET. WHILE GRAND
IDEA OTHERS ARE CONSIDER FIRST
IN LINE TO MAINTAIN THE SECURE
AND LAWFUL TRANSFER OF FIREARMS
THERE'S CURRENTLY NO TRAINING
REQUIREMENTS FOR GUN DEALERS AND
THEIR EMPLOYERS ON HOW TO.
ENGAGE IN RESPONSIBLE BUSINESS
PRACTICES ORDER RECOGNIZE SIGNS
OF ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES WE HAVE
SIMILAR TRAINING REQUIREMENTS
FOR FOOD HANDLERS FOR
RESPONSIBLE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE
DISPENSING AND FOR OTHER
PRACTICES UNDER CALIFORNIA'S
DIVISION OF OCCUPATIONAL HEALTH
AND SAFETY SPECIFICALLY
DIFFERENT TYPES OF INDUSTRIES.
SB FIVE TO FOUR ONE WOULD PUT
REQUIREMENTS IN PLACE FOR
TRAINING ON AN OBVIOUSLY GUNS
AND AMMUNITION CAN RESULT IN AN
AWFUL THINGS HAPPENING I THIS
WOULD ESTABLISH KERR REAL TO THE
POINT OF SALE. AND BRING GUN
DEALERS UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF
PROFESSIONAL TRAINING PRACTICES
TO PROMOTE RESPONSIBLE GUN
OWNERSHIP AND PREVENT FRAUDULENT
ACTIVITY. I HAVE WITH ME TODAY
TEN TANYA SHARK SENIOR COUNSEL
AND DIRECTOR OF STATE AND
FEDERAL POLICY WITH THE BRADY
CAMPAIGN TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT
OF SB TWO FORTY ONE. THANK YOU
YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES. GOOD
AFTERNOON MEMBERS TANYA SHORT
HAIR FROM BRADY- IN STRONG
SUPPORT OF SB TWO FORTY ONE WE
TRAIN FOOD HANDLERS BARTENDERS.
WE REQUIRE HOTEL OR MOTEL
WORKERS IN TRANSPORTATION
WORKERS TO BE AWARE OF A
POSSIBLE HUMAN TRAFFICKING AND
YET GUN DEALERS WHO PLAY A
CRITICAL ROLE IN PREVENTING GUN
VIOLENCE IN OUR COMMUNITIES. ARE
NOT TRAINED THE ACTORS GAC
GATEKEEPERS AND THEIR CONDUCT
HAS A DIRECT BEARING ON WHETHER
GUNS ARE DIVERTED TO THE LEGAL
MARKET OR INTO THE HANDS OF
THOSE WHO SHOULD NOT HAVE THEM.
AND YET NEITHER DEALERS NOR
THEIR EMPLOYERS ARE REQUIRED TO
HAVE REGULAR SUBSTANTIVE
TRAINING TO PREVENT DANGEROUS
SALES AND GUN TRAFFICKING.
WARTET WHICH OUTLINES OUR
OBLIGATION TO ENGAGE IN
RESPONSIBLE BUSINESS PRACTICES
AND TO COMPLY WITH STATE AND
FEDERAL LAW. THIS WOULD SIMPLY
REQUIRE THAT THEY BE TRAINED ON
THINGS INCLUDING FEDERAL STATE
LAWS GOVERNING THE SALE AND
TRANSFER OF FIREARMS AND
AMMUNITION. HOW TO RECOGNIZE AND
IDENTIFIED STRAW PURCHASERS AND
OTHER FRAUDULENT ACTIVITIES AND
HOW TO RECOGNIZE AND IDENTIFY
INDICATORS OF SOMEONE WHO MIGHT
BE HIGH RISK. HOW TO PREVENT
THEFT OR BURGLARY OF FIREARMS
AND AMMUNITION. NOT ONLY IS THIS
TRAINING COMMONSENSE BECAUSE IT
WILL BENEFIT PUBLIC HEALTH AND
SAFETY. BUT IT WILL ALSO PROVIDE
TOOLS TO THE DEALERS AND THEIR
EMPLOYEES TO ENSURE THAT THEY
ARE ACTING REASONABLY IN
COMPLIANCE WITH THE LAW. THIS
LEGISLATION IS CRITICAL TO
CURBING DANGER SALES PREVENTING
GUNS FROM BEING DIVERTED INTO
THE CRIMINAL MARKET. AND
REDUCING THE LIKELIHOOD OF STRAW
PURCHASES THEFT BURGLARY IN LOSS
OF INVENTORY. LONG TERM THIS
WILL SAVE COUNTLESS LIVES AND WE
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR
SUPPORT FOR SB TWO FORTY ONE
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE
ELSE HERE IN SUPPORT. HE
CAMPAIGN SORRY. HERE IS A
VOLUNTEER WITH THE BRADY
CAMPAIGN SACRAMENTO CHAPTER. IN
SUPPORT. IT WAS A BEACON
PROSECUTORS LINES CALIFORNIANS
SUPPORT. JOHNSTON WITH THE
COUNTY OF LOS ANGELES IN SUPPORT
. LET'S WRESTLE WITH MOMS DEMAND
ACTION ON GUN VIOLENCE SURVIVOR
IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU RENOWNED
MOMS DEMAND ACTION VOLUNTEER AND
SUPPORT. GILLIAN KING VOLUNTEER
MOMS DEMAND ACTION IN SUPPORT.
JULIE CHAPMAN VOLUNTEER WITH
MOMS DEMAND ACTION IN SUPPORT.
DRG DAHLE VOLUNTEER WITH MOMS
DEMAND ACTION IN SUPPORT.
GEORGINE REDMAN VOLUNTEER FOR
MOMS DEMAND ACTION IN SUPPORT.
CLEAR SUNSHINE OF VOLUNTEER
MONTHS VAN **** SHOULD NEVER
TOWN SURVIVOR NETWORK SURVIVOR
CAN BY THEN SUPPORT. MOLINA
BRUCE MOMS DEMAND ACTION
VOLUNTEER I SUPPORT. KIM HOWARD
A VOLUNTEER WITH MOMS DEMAND
ACTION FOR SUPPORT THANK YOU.
MARY LOU ROSATO VOLUNTEER MOMS
DEMAND ACTION IN SUPPORT.
RICHARD JACOBOWITZ VOLUNTEER
WITH MOMS DEMAND ACTION AND
PUBLIC SCHOOL TEACHER AND
SUPPORT. I'M LESLEY LU A
VOLUNTEER WITH MOMS DEMAND
ACTION AND I'M IN SUPPORT. THANK
YOU ANYONE HERE IN OPPOSITION.
COME ON UP TO THE TABLE.
THANK YOU AND THAT YOU HAVE FIVE
MINUTES. THANK YOU BYE SHARE
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE IT'S
GOOD YOU AGAIN BEEN HERE ALL DAY
- FOR THE RECORD MY NAME IS
MICHAEL FINLEY DIRECTOR OF
GOVERNMENT RELATIONS WITH THE
NATIONAL SHOOTING SPORTS
FOUNDATION AGAIN WE'RE THE
NATIONAL TRADE ASSOCIATION FOR
AMERICA'S. FIRE MANUFACTURES
AMMUNITION MERIT MANUFACTURER'S
RETAIL- RETAILERS AND RANGES- I
SAID THIS EARLIER SENATOR
PORTANTINO WHEN HE HAD A VERY
SIMILAR BELL ANNA. I WANT TO SAY
THIS TO THE SPONSORS AS WELL
WE'D LIKE TO EXTEND THE OLIVE
BRANCH AND WORK TOGETHER ON THIS
. NO ONE WANTS TO SEE A
PROHIBITED PERSON OR A PERSON
THAT SHOULDN'T HAVE A FIREARM
OBTAINED A FIREARM. WE HAVE. PUT
TOGETHER PROGRAMS THAT ARE
DESIGNED SPECIFICALLY. TO STOP
THE THINGS OUTLINED IN THIS BILL
. ONE OF OUR PROGRAMS FOR
INSTANCES DON'T LIE FOR THE
OTHER GUY IT'S DESIGNED TO TRAIN
RETAILERS AND THEIR EMPLOYEES
ABOUT HOW TO STOP. PEOPLE WHO
COME IN AND POTENTIALLY ARE
DOING A STRAW PURCHASE FOR
SOMEBODY ELSE. WE ALSO HAVE OUR
OPERATION SECURE STORE. WHERE WE
WORK WITH SPECIALISTS. WHO WORK
WITH CONSULTANTS WORK WITH THE
A. T. F. PARTMINER JUSTICE ON
THE FEDERAL LEVEL. TO EDUCATE.
RETAILERS AND RANGES ON HOW TO
MAKE SURE THAT THEIR STORES ARE
SAFE SO THAT ONCE AGAIN.
FIREARMS DON'T FALL INTO THE
HANDS OF THOSE WHO SHOULD NOT
HAVE THEM. WE ALSO HAVE A
PROGRAM WHERE WE PARTNER WITH
THE ATF. WE'RE WE MATCH. THE
REWARD ON ANY INFORMATION
LEADING TO THE ARREST. OF THOSE
PERPETRATORS. WHO BURGLARIZE A
STORE AND STEAL FIREARMS. SO
AGAIN I WANT TO STAY EXTEND THE
OLIVE BRANCH THE SENATOR. AND
THE SPONSORS OF THE SPELL. AND
SAY WE WERE WILLING TO WORK WITH
YOU AND DO THINGS THAT MATTER.
THERE ARE A COUPLE OF ISSUES
WITH THIS BILL- DEFINITIONS
MATTER. AND ONE OF THEM IS
HANDLING WITH. HE SAID AND THERE
THE EMPLOYEES THAT HANDLE
FIREARMS WILL BE SUBJECT TO THIS
TRAINING. HANDLING IS A VERY
VERY BROAD DEFINITION SPECIAL IN
CALIFORNIA GIVEN THE RECENT RE
DEFINITIONS OF PRECURSOR PARTS
AND HOW THAT IS DEFINED AS
FIREARMS SO IF YOU'RE JANITOR
AND MOVING AROUND GRIPS YOUR
MOVING AROUND ANYTHING YOUR
SUBJECT TO TRAINING. IT'S VERY
UNCLEAR ON THAT. THE DEPARTMENT
OF JUSTICE WHILE THEY ARE
ENFORCEMENT AGENCY DO THEY HAVE
THE EXPERTISE TO PUT DOWN THESE
PROGRAMS IN PLACE. IN THE
INDICATORS QUITE FRANKLY THAT-
ONE OF THE WITNESSES TESTIFIED
TO- ARE THE IT'S NOT BASED IN
SCIENCE. ONE OF THEM FOR
INSTANCES IF YOU COME INTO A GUN
STORE. WITH ONE OR MORE PEOPLE
THAT'S AN INDICATOR THAT YOU
MIGHT BE. THEIR FIRST ROLE
PURCHASE. THAT'S NOT BASED IN
SCIENCE AND THAT'S NOT WHAT THE
A TF AND WHAT OUR TRAINING DOES
WHEN WE- GIVE IT TO EVERYONE OF
OUR MEMBERS IT'S VERY DETAILED.
IT'S THIS IT'S BASED ON SCIENCE
AND YEARS AND YEARS WORTH OF.
EXPERIENCE IN THE INDUSTRY AS
WELL AS WORKING WITH OUR FEDERAL
LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES. THIS
DOESN'T HAVE THAT ANOTHER ONE IS
IF YOU'RE ON A COMMUNICATION
DEVICE. IT'S AN INDICATOR. SO IF
YOU GO IN THERE AND YOU'RE
TRYING TO GET SOME ADVICE FOR
WHAT'S THE BEST TYPE OF SHOCK ON
FOR DUCK HUNTING BECAUSE I
HAVEN'T DONE THAT BEFORE AND I
WANT TO KNOW THE DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN THESE TWO DIFFERENT
BRANDS. ALL THE SUDDEN THIS BILL
WOULD SAY YOU KNOW WHAT EMPLOYEE
YOU HAVE TO FLAG THEM AS
POTENTIAL STRAW PURCHASE. AND
WOULD TRIGGER. REPORTING
REQUIREMENTS ON IT THERE'S A LOT
OF THINGS I THINK IT'S A GOOD
INTENTION BILL BUT I THINK WE
CAN WORK TOGETHER AND DO A
VOLUNTARY INCENTIVE BASED
PROGRAMS. INSTEAD OF JUST SAYING
YOU HAVE TO DO THIS DO THIS DO
THIS WHICH CONSTANTLY.
CONSTANTLY SAY WHY DON'T WE WORK
TOGETHER. WHY DON'T WE SAY OKAY
THESE ARE PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE
. FOR INSTANCE WHEN WE WORKED
WITH ATF AND WE SAID. YOU'RE
GOING TO PUT OUT WORLD WAR TO
FIND OUT WHO MADE THE STEPS WE
WILL MATCH IT WE MATCH THOSE
REWARDS FROM A TF OUT OF OUR OWN
POCKETS. WHAT ABOUT THINGS LIKE
THAT APPROACH AS OPPOSED TO YOU.
HEY THERE'S A JANITOR IN YOUR
STORY'S GONNA MOVE A COUPLE OF
BREAKS ROUND ANALYSTS AND HE'S
GONNA NEED THIS TRAINING THAT.
IT DOESN'T REALLY HANDLE SELL.
FIREARMS BUT ALSO HE'S BEEN THE
SUBJECT TO THE FEES ASSOCIATED
WITH THAT. THE TIME THAT IT
TAKES AND IT'S GONNA BE A
BARRIER TO ENTRY FOR EMPLOYMENT.
THESE ARE ALL REAL ISSUES I KNOW
IT'S REAL EASY JUST TO SIT HERE
AND SPECIAL IN CALIFORNIA JUST
SAY YOU KNOW WHAT. WE'RE JUST
GONNA DO THIS THIS THIS THIS AND
THIS AND YOU KNOW WHAT. THE GUN
INDUSTRY. THEY'LL JUST HAVE TO
LIVE WITH IT BECAUSE- THE
FEDERAL LATE. FEDERAL LEVEL. WE
DO IN OTHER STATES. BUT INSTEAD
OF JUST MAKING A CALIFORNIA
APPROACH WE TAKE HIS KNOWLEDGE
FROM THE DOJ IN CALIFORNIA. WHY
DON'T WE WORK WITH THE OTHER
FORTY NINE STATES KNOWLEDGE THAT
WE'VE ACCUMULATED THERE AND ON
THE FEDERAL LEVEL. WORK TOGETHER
INTO A FEW ALL INTERIOR. CENTER
BASED PROGRAM MISTER HI FI FI
ABOUT. GREAT AGAIN FOR THE- IN
THIS BILL AND OTHER WILL TO WORK
WITH. THE COMMITTEE THE SPONSOR
AS WELL AS THE PROPONENTS OF
THIS BILL. BUT SOME MAY DO
SOMETHING IN A MANDATORY FASHION
WITH UNCLEAR DEFINITIONS WITH.
QUITE FRANKLY INDICATORS THAT
AREN'T BACKED WITHIN SCIENCE IS
JUST GONNA DO MORE HARM THAN IT
IS GOOD FOR THAT. ARE THE
INDUSTRY'S AGAINST THIS BILL
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THANK
YOU. WITH THE BELT. SO- UP.
THERE. THAT'S OPPOSITE. ANY OF.
NAME ORGANIZATION UP. C. NUMBER
IN THE BACK TO THE COMMITTEE
MEMBERS FOR QUESTIONS OR-
COMMENTS. SEEING NONE YOU MAY
CLOSE INSTRUMENT BY GOOD JUST
TAKE A MOMENT TO RESPOND TO
COMMENTS BASED ON THE
QUESTIONNAIRE THAT WE'RE
REQUIRING THE TRAINING REQUIRING
HAS NOT BEEN DEVELOPED YET SO
WE'D BE HAPPY TO WORK ENSURE THE
DOJ WOULD BE HAPPY TO WORK WITH
ANYBODY TO HELP DEVELOP THE
BEST. QUESTIONS THAT WOULD THAT
COULD BE ASKED SO I THINK A LOT
OF YOUR TESTIMONY SIR WAS.
REALLY PREMATURE- AS FAR AS OUR
ABILITY TO PASS FEDERAL
LEGISLATION OBVIOUSLY THIS BODY
DOES NOT HAVE AUTHORITY TO PASS
LEGISLATION ON BEHALF OF ALL
FIFTY STATES- IN SO WE'RE
PASSING LAWS ONLY THAT AFFECT
CALIFORNIA- I JUST WANNA TAKE
ISSUE WITH ONE STATEMENT YOU
MADE SIR WHICH IS THAT YOU SAID
THAT WE SHOULD ADOPT A VOLUNTARY
INCENTIVE. PROGRAM FOR TRAINING
I JUST TAKE ISSUE WITH THAT WE
HAVE A GUN CRISIS IN THIS
COUNTRY- WE KNOW THAT GUN
VIOLENCE IS AT OUTRAGEOUSLY
HIGH- WE HAVE MORE DEATHS BY
EXPONENTIALLY HIGHER FACTOR THAN
ANY OTHER CIVILIZED COUNTRY. AND
HOW WE NEED TO TAKE STEPS TO
REDUCE SECOND I'LL I OWE THAT TO
MY CONSTITUENTS. I THINK THE
MEMBERS THAT SUPPORT THIS BILL I
HAD SUPPORTED AT THE SENATE.
RECOGNIZE THAT SAME OBLIGATION
WE HAVE PER CONSTITUENTS TO TRY
TO REDUCE GUN VIOLENCE- SO. LOOK
WE HAVE A PROBLEM THIS IS ONE IS
NOT GONNA SOLVE THE GUN VIOLENCE
PROBLEM. BUT IT WILL HELP AND IT
IS COMPLETELY CONSISTENT WITH.
OTHER ASPECTS A LOT WE HAVE
AROUND FOOD HANDLING AROUND A
WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER STUFF- SO
WITH THAT I RESPECTFULLY ASK
RIVAL. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A
MOTION. TO RECOMMEND AN ALLY.
CALL ROLL. I SB TWO FORTY BY SEN
MEN THE MOTION IS TO PASS AT THE
MAY. TO BE A- COMMITTEE. JOE
SAWYER. CHEN SO I. HELLO NOT
VOTING BONTA. BONTA I. BRIAN I
LACKEY. LACKEY NOT VOTING ORTEGA
. SAN SAN DIEGO I JACKSON.
JACKSON I. THE MEASURE PASSES
THANK YOU. SENATOR ARE CHIU LEFT
A IS NEXT. I AM TWENTY TWO. SO
SB SIX INTO. ITEM TWENTY TWO. SB
.
SIX OH TWO.
WHENEVER YOU'RE READY THANK YOU
GOOD MORNING MISTER CHAIR AND
ASSEMBLY MEMBERS THANK YOU FOR
BEING HERE TODAY AND THIS BILL
IS PROBABLY A- VERY LIGHT BILL
COMPARED TO WHAT YOU'VE- SEEN
ALL DAY. SO LET ME START OFF
ONCE AGAIN BUT THANK YOU. AND
TODAY I PRESENTED SENATE BILL
SIX OH TWO. WHICH WILL HELP OUR
LOCAL GOVERNMENTS DEAL WITH
PUBLIC NUISANCE AND GRAFFITI
ISSUED BY EXTENDING THE
OPERATING TIME FRAME FOR
TRESPASSING LETTERS OF AGENCY
FROM THIRTY DAYS TO TWELVE
MONTHS THE BILL ALSO EXTENDS A
TIME FRAME FOR THESE LETTERS
FROM TWELVE MONTHS TO THREE
YEARS IF THE PROPERTY IS CLOSED
TO THE PUBLIC AND POSTED AS
BEING CLOSED AS WELL AS-
AUTHORIZES ELECTRONIC.
SUBMISSIONS OF THESE LETTERS.
CITIES AND THEY'RE ALL FOR
AGENCIES ARE REQUIRED TO OBTAIN
AN UPDATED LETTER EVERY THIRTY
DAYS FROM PROPERTY OWNERS TO
CONTINUE TRESPASSED IN THE
BASEMENT. HOWEVER IT CAN BE
DIFFICULT FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS
TO OBTAIN LETTERS OF AGENCY IN A
TIMELY MANNER FROM UNRESPONSIVE
OR ABSENTEE PROPERTY OWNERS THE
RESULTS IN AND POLICE DEPARTMENT
HAVING TO DETECT. OR THIS
VALUABLE ANY INPUT VALUABLE
STAFF HOURS AND TIME AND
RESOURCES FOR THIS
ADMINISTRATIVE PURPOSES INSTEAD
OF DOING THE THINGS THAT WE
ASKED THEM TO DO AND KEEPING
CALIFORNIA STATE. SENATE BILL
SIX OH TWO WILL IMPROVE PEACE
OFFICERS RESPOND ACTIVE
CAPABILITIES AND PROVIDES MORE
CONVENIENT AND ACCESSIBLE
MECHANISM FOR PROPERTY OWNERS TO
PARTICIPATE IN EFFORTS TO KEEP
OUR CITY CLEAN AND SAFE. OTHER
PURPOSES BILL- HAS YOU SAVE-
UNANIMOUS SUPPORT BIPARTISAN
SUPPORT AND HAS NO OPPOSITION
WITH ME TODAY HAVE CHASING
THEMSELVES ON BEHALF OF THE CITY
OF BELLFLOWER IN MY DISTRICT.
AND LIEUTENANT JULIO DE LEON
WITH THE RIVERSIDE SHERIFF'S TO
TESTIFY ON BEHALF OF THE BILL.
AND. I RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR
RIVAL. GOOD MORNING MR MEMBERS
OF THE COMMITTEE PO CONSULT
CHASE INVOLVES IS YOUNGER
LOOKING. HERE ON BEHALF OF THE
CITY OF HEALTH WHO'S THE- THIS
OF THE BUT ALSO THE CITY'S A
PARAMOUNT LAKE WOULD WILL
TOMORROW. ROSEMEAD BANNING GARB
NOR IN WHITTIER ALL IN SUPPORT
OF THE BILL THE CENTER DID A
GREAT JOB I REALLY HAVE NOTHING
ELSE TO ADD TO IT AND KNOW
WHERE- IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY SO
WE'LL JUST RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
YOUR I. BOATS. THANK YOU. GOOD
MORNING AT CHURCH MANY MEN IT
WAS EITHER TECHNICALLY ONLY
ANOTHER KEEP IN SHORT OF THE
SHARED BE ON- FOR SO I CAN WHERE
POLICE TO SUPPORT SB OH TWO-
PROVIDE LA. ABOUT TOOL ENHANCE
OF SAFETY OF OUR BY LAW.
UNFORCED TO ENFORCE TRUST US
PRIVATE PROPERTY ON BEHALF OF
AND WITH THE KIDS OF AN ABSENT
OWNER. THIS BILL LAW AT STANDARD
WHAT IS REFERRED AS THE LETTERS
THROUGH THE STATE. AND MAKES IT
MORE SO TO PROP WAS MY THEM. TO
SUBMIT THOSE RE IN THE
CHRONICALLY- SB SIX TWO DOES NOT
CREATE A NEW PRIME DOES NOT
INCREASE ANY CURRENT CRIMINAL OR
CIVIL PENALTIES DIGITS ENHANCES
THE CURRENT SYSTEM THAT WE
CURRENTLY HAVE. IN THE ON THE
BOOKS. WHAT IT DOES DO IT X.
SENSIBILITY OF TIME FOR THE
LETTERS ONE YEAR TO THREE YEARS
ALLOWING US. MORE TIME TO
ADMINISTER THOSE LETTERS AND TO
KEEP THOSE LETTERS ON FILE AND
IT LESSENS THE BURDENS ON
BUSINESS OWNERS AND PROPERTY
OWNERS. AND IT HELPS MITIGATE.
FIRE DANGERS BY ALLOWING US TO
ENFORCE TRESPASS TRESPASSING ON
PRIVATE PROPERTY THIS IS NOT
APPLY TO PUBLIC PROPERTY DOES
NOT APPLY TO- ANY PUBLICLY OWNED
PROPERTY IT ONLY APPLIES
STRICTLY APPLIES TO PEOPLE WHO
OWN. VACANT LOTS OR VACANT
PROPERTIES AND WHERE THE OWNERS
ARE ABSENT. SOME HAVE CHURCH AT
THE OCTOBER SECOND SURE STOPS WE
ASK WHERE I WAS CITY THANK YOU.
ANY WITNESSES IN SUPPORT. GET
MORNING SURE THEMSELVES ON
BEHALF THE CITY'S CRONY SPELL
SUPPORT. GOOD MORNING CHAIR
MEMBERS PERSONAL KEY DOES ON
BEHALF OF THE CITY OF BEVERLY
HILLS IN SUPPORT. JEAN MAY HAVE
THE RIVER COUNTY OF. AND.
MICHELLE ONE GOT ON BEHALF THE
CITY OF LOOK REVERSE COUNTY AND
. COURCELLES ALONG THE HEALTH
CARE STATE OF SPA. OR ANY WITH
OP. ANY WOULD IN UP. YOU KNOW
BRING IN TO CAN MEMBERS FOR
ECONOMY OR QUESTIONS. MISS BONTA
- THANK YOU SENATOR AT CAN YOU
SPEAK TO THE FACT THAT- THERE
SEEMS TO BE A PATTERN THESE TWO
OF SITES IT- AND UP LEADING TO-
RECEIVE SIGNIFICANTLY CITATIONS
FOR A HOUSE PEOPLE. I'M SORRY
WOULD YOU REPEAT THAT THE LATTER
CONTINUED CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE
FACT THAT THESE TRUST PAST
LETTERS IS THAT ADAM. EIGHT AND
THE FREEDOM SALTING IN CITATION
TO ON HOUSE. WELL HERE HERE'S-
LET'S ASSUME THERE'S AN
ABANDONED BUILDING AND IT'S
FENCED OFF THERE'S A POSTED SIGN
NO TRESPASSING BUT THE OWNER OF
THE PROPERTY IT OBVIOUSLY IS
NEGOTIATING TO SELL IT. AND I
WANT TO KIND OF GO THROUGH THAT
AND THERE IS A LETTER POSTED-
WHEN THEY TRANSFER PROPERTY-
THEY'LL HAVE TO START OVER
AGAIN. AND SO THAT WAS A
QUESTION THAT CAME UP AND I KNOW
YOU DIDN'T ASK IT BUT THE LETTER
OF AGENCY HAS TO BE REINSTATED
SO WE GOTTA DO TO GET. SO IT
DOESN'T GO OVER AUTOMATICALLY
THAT'S ONE THING THE OTHER THING
IS THE FACT THAT- BECAUSE OF THE
FACT THAT THAT- I THINK YOU
MIGHT BE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT
THE HOMELESS SITUATION WHERE
VAGRANTS AND SO ON. IT IS AS A
LAW ENFORCEMENT IS MENTION IT IS
THERE TO PROTECT THE COMMUNITY
FROM GRAFFITI AND SO ON AND TO
BE ABLE TO ALLOW SOMEONE TO POST
AND NOT HAVE TO GO BACK EVERY
THIRTY DAYS TO CONTINUE DOING
THAT- SO THAT IS THE PURPOSE OF
THE JAIL. AND OVERALL IT KEEPS
COMMUNITIES SAFER CLEANER AND-
THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES THAT TAKE
PLACE AND COMMUNITY THERE WERE
ALL WORKING ON. HOMELESS SINCE
AND SO ON. SO THIS HAS NOTHING
TO DO WITH THAT- AT. TWELVE I
THINK THERE WAS A ROOF ISSUE BY.
AT THE- THAT ESSENTIALLY THAT
SIXTY SEVEN OF THAT TRUST PAST
LETTERS- WITH IT WHEN THEY WERE
NINETY SEVEN CITATIONS ISSUED TO
ON HOUSE PEOPLE AND SIXTY SEVEN.
RESULTED FROM TRUST PAST LETTERS
OF AUTHORIZATION SO THERE SEEMS
TO BE A PRETTY HIGH CORRELATION
BETWEEN- THE ISSUANCE OF A
TRESPASS LETTER ADAMS- THE
ABILITY TO ESSENTIALLY THAT SITE
AND HOUSE PEOPLE SO I THINK
THERE IS A- CORRELATION BETWEEN
AT LEAST BETWEEN US. WELL THIS
ALSO IS GOING TO BE USED TO HELP
OUR PEOPLE- IN MY COMMUNITIES IN
YOUR COMMUNITIES. TO FIND OUT
WHO IS HOMELESS AND WHO'S OUT
THERE BECAUSE IN THIS WAY WE CAN
HAVE ACCESS TO THEM SO IT HAS A-
A POSITIVE AFFECT AS WELL. NOT
JUST THE NEGATIVE BUT ALSO WITH
ALL THE YOU HOUSING THAT WE'RE
TRYING TO DO TO BUILD. WE DON'T
WANT ANYONE TO BE INTO THESE
PROPERTIES- AND SAFE SITUATION
SO WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP- OPEN.
SAFE FOR EVERYONE. YES ANYONE
ELSE. YOU MAY CLOSE. THANK YOU
MISTER CHAIR I WOULD
RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR AYE VOTE.
I THINK WHAT THE- WHAT THE
ASSEMBLY WOMAN GETTING TUBES
SURE THAT WE DON'T CRIMINALIZE.
COOL COOL FOR HOMELESS OR HOUSE
. YES AND THAT WE DON'T USE THIS
LAW- TO PERPETUATE THAT. AND IF
THERE ARE OFF RAMPS OR- IF YOU
WERE MOVING PEOPLE TO SHELTERS
ARE MOVING PEOPLE TO PLACES
WHERE THEY CAN GET THE HELP OR
DRUG REHABILITATION. I THINK
THAT'S- KIND OF WHERE WE'RE
GETTING THAT THE BIG DON'T END
UP IN JAIL. OR. CREATE A RECORD.
THAT MAKES THEIR HOPE THE HOUSES
IT'S EVEN WORSE I THINK THAT'S
WHERE THIS WAS GOING TO LIVE I
WOULD. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO VOTE
FOR NOW BUT I WOULD TO SEE ASK
YOU TO ADDRESS THAT IN SOME. WAY
SHAPE OR FORM AS IT MOVES FOR
END OF THE AD I WILL IN THE
COMMUNITIES THAT I SERVE AND ALL
OF US ARE WE'RE ALL WORKING HARD
TO WORK WITH THE HOMELESS AND
THE CITY OF BELLFLOWER WHO
SPONSORED WAITER YOU HEARD THE
CITY THROWS ME. ALL OF THEM ARE
JOINING TOGETHER TO HELP OUR
MEDIA HOMELESS AND WORK WITH
THEM SO HAVING THE SADISTIC
ADDITIONAL DATA WE'RE GOING TO
USE IT WE'RE GOING TO USE IT ON
A POSITIVE. WE HAVE A- CALDERON
. ON SB SIX OH TWO BY SENATOR
ARCHULETA THE MOTION IS TO PASS
JONES SAWYER JONES SAWYER I
ALANIZ HI ALANIZ HI BONTA. BONTA
NOT VOTING BRIAN. BRIAN I LACKEY
LACKEY I ORTEGA. SANTIAGO
SANTIAGO I JACKSON JACKSON I.
THE MEASURE PASSED THANK YOU
JUST COMMITTEE. SENATOR WINNER.
WE'RE GIVING YOU CUT. SIX IF. I
KNOW. GOOD CAN YOU ASK FOR CUTS
WHAT. BUT HE- YOU HAVE TO DOUBLE
. YES. YEAH NO TWO OF. TO IF YOU
NEED TO. YES. WHEN DO ROCK PAPER
BUT I'D. GO AHEAD OKAY THANK YOU
VERY MUCH- CHAIRMAN- FOR SO I
WANNA HERE TO PRESENT SENATE
BILL FIFTY EIGHT- AND I TO THANK
YOU A YOUR MEANS TO WORK WITH
US- TO- ACCEPT- THE MEMBER- TO
THE LABEL. ON THAT. OF THIS AND
SUPPORT VIEWS OF THESE AS ARE
UNTIL FRAME REGARD RAILS OR FORM
- AS WE DISCUSS WITH HIM WILL WE
ARE MORE CONTINUE WITH THE CAN-
WHICH IS THIS REFER HERE- TO FLY
OUT- REQUIRED. ARE SO AGAIN
THANK YOU AND WE HAPPY TO THE ON
AND WALK TO WORK A LOT COURSE
I'M CALLING FIFTY EIGHT- DECREE
. THE POSSESSION AND PER USE OF
SPECIFIED AMOUNT OF FIVE
NATURALLY OCCURRING PSYCHEDELIC
SUBSTANCES- PSILOCYBIN SILAS AND
DMT MASKELYNE AND I HAVE A GAME
ONLY FOR PEOPLE TWENTY ONE
YEARS- AN OLDER- THIS IS A
NARROWER VERSION OF THE BILL
THAT PASSED OUT OF THIS
COMMITTEE. LAST YEAR THAT ALSO
INCLUDED MDMA AND LSD WE HAVE
REMOVED THOSE FROM THE BILLS-
AND- WITH THE BILL PASSED OUT OF
THIS TO ME LAST WEEK COULD NOT
HAVE LIMITS ON- QUANTITY WE
PLACES LIMITS- IN THE BILL AND
ASSEMBLY HEALTH LAST YEAR WE'VE
MAINTAINED. IN THIS NEW- BUILT
ON TO BE CLEAR SB FIFTY EIGHT
DOES NOT. AUTHORIZE THE SALE.
PERSON IT COMMERCIAL OF THESE.
NOR DOES IT THERE YOU OF BY MY
ADAM TO ONE- AND- THIS BILL
SIMPLY ENSURE THAT PEOPLE ARE NO
A OR- FOR POSSESSING OR USING
THESE SUBSTANCES- SB FIFTY EIGHT
IS SPONSORED BY THE HER- CARTS
PROJECT- VETERANS SERVICE
ORGANIZATION. THAT WORKS WITH
COMBAT VETERANS TO ENSURE THEY
HAVE EFFECTIVE ACCESS. TO MENTAL
HEALTH TREATMENT ARE THEY
TYPICALLY HAVE TO SENS- VETERANS
TO OTHER COUNTRIES TO RECEIVE
PSYCHEDELIC THERAPY FOR THEIR
MENTAL HEALTH CHALLENGES-
INSTEAD OF BEING ABLE TO DO SO
HERE ARE IN CALIFORNIA BECAUSE
WE HAVE CRIMINALIZED SUBSTANCES.
ON THE SUBSTANCES HAVE
SIGNIFICANT HEALING OUR
POTENTIAL AND THERE'S GROWING
RESEARCH- SHOWING- GOT
POTENTIAL- HAD THE WAR ON DRUGS
NOT STARTED IN THE SIXTIES AND
SEVENTIES WE WILL PROBABLY BE IN
A MUCH MUCH DRAMATICALLY MORE
ADVANCED STATE AROUND
PSYCHEDELICS BUT THE WAR ON
DRUGS. WHICH CRIMINALIZES
POSSESSION AND USE AMONG OTHER
THINGS I'M SHUT EVERYTHING DOWN
AND WE LOST FORTY OR FIFTY YEARS
AS A RESULT AND WE'RE TRYING TO
REVERSE- SOME OF. THAT DAMAGE-
THE- RESEARCH- ALSO. INDICATES
THAT- THE SUB ARE NOT- AND THAT
IS ALSO SOMETHING I'LL TAKE INTO
ACCOUNT- SO COLLEAGUES THAT I
JUST WANT TO ALSO KNOW THE
CONTEXT HERE TO SEVERAL OTHER
STATES HAVE DECRIMINALIZED.
POSSESSION AND USE OF THESE
SUBSTANCES INCLUDING OREGON AND
COLORADO WE ACTUALLY HAVE
SEVERAL STUDIES ARE COMING OUT
OF COLORADO IN PARTICULAR-
INDICATING THAT POST
DECRIMINALIZATION OF
PSYCHEDELICS. THEY DID NOT SEE
ANY INCREASE IN EMERGENCY ROOM
VISITS OR OTHER HEALTH PROBLEMS
DID NOT SEE ANY INCREASES. IN
CRIME- AS A RESULT OF THE
DECRIMINALIZATION- ARE OBVIOUSLY
ANY SUBSTANCE- CAN HAVE NEGATIVE
IMPACTS ANYTHING- PSYCHEDELICS
ARE NO EXCEPTION I KNOW WE'LL BE
HEARING TODAY- SOMETHING ABOUT
THAT AND- ANYTIME. SOMEONE HAS
ABOUT EXPERIENCE AND POTENTIALLY
DIVES THAT IS- HORRIBLE HORRIFIC
TRAGEDY ON BUT THE EVIDENCE ARE
ON PSYCHEDELICS ESPECIALLY SOME
OF THE STUDIES I KNOW WE ARE
DISTRIBUTED I CHAU- THE THAT. AS
IN COLORADO X. THAT YOU VISIT-
CRY DOES GO UP. AS A- AND ALLOW
OF PEOPLE BENEFIT SO I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR AYE
VOTE. NOW WITH ME TODAY REDUCE
MORE BROUGH. WHO IS A U. S. ARMY
VETERAN WITH HER OF COURSE
PROJECT. AND DR MILLS A LICENSE
CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGIST AND
CLINICAL DIRECTOR OF FOR THE
SACRAMENTO INSTITUTE FOR
PSYCHOTHERAPY THANK YOU. MISTER
MEMBERS GET MORE ALL GOOD AFTER
MY NAME IS JAY MORE I LIVED
PLASTER WITH MY BEAUTIFUL OF
FIVE CHILDREN HAVE A NICE HOUSE
ON A NICE PIECE OF PROPERTY I'VE
GOT A MASTER'S DEGREE IN AN
OBSCURE AREA OF STUDY. I AM A
MOSTLY SUCCESSFUL ENTREPRENEUR.
I'M A DECORATED ARMY OFFICER IN
A COMBAT VETERAN AND I TELL DAD
JOKES THAT MY WIFE AND KIDS
LAUGH AT SOMETIMES. IN SPITE OF
ALL MY ACCOMPLISHMENTS I'M STILL
STUCK FIGHTING A WAR THAT BEGAN
FOR ME AND HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS
OF OTHER SERVICE MEMBERS WITH
THE INVASION OF IRAQ IN THE
SPRING OF TWO THOUSAND THREE. I
SERVE WITH DISTINCTION AS AN
ARMY OPS FROM 200-022-0008 I
DEPLOYED THREE TIMES FIGHTING
THE GLOBAL WAR ON TERROR MY
FIRST DEPLOYMENT TO IRAQ BEGAN
ON APRIL THIRD TWO THOUSAND
THREE. WHEN I LEFT A YEAR LATER
I SUCCESSFULLY CONDUCTED OVER
THREE HUNDRED COMBAT MISSIONS IN
ONE OF THE MOST HEAVILY
CONTESTED PARTS OF THE COUNTRY.
STATISTICALLY I SHOULD HAVE BEEN
KILLED FIFTEEN TIMES. DURING
THIS DEPLOYMENT I LOST SIX
SOLDIERS FROM MY UNIT AND
HUNDREDS OF OTHERS WERE INJURED
AND KILLED OUR SPACE. WITHIN A
WEEK OF RETURNING TO THE STATES
ONE OF MY SOLDIERS COMMITTED
SUICIDE AND SIX WEEKS LATER WE
LOST ANOTHER SUICIDE. S.
DRAMATIC IS THAT IS- NOTHING IS
IMPACTED MY LIFE MORE THAN
KNOWING THAT I GAVE ORDERS OF
SOME OF MY SOLDIERS FOLLOWED TO
THEIR DEATHS. THAT GUILT STILL
HAUNTS ME TO THIS DAY- MORE THAN
ANY OF THE COMBAT DEATHS I
PARTICIPATED IN AND WITNESSED.
AFTER LEAVING THE ARMY IN TWO
THOUSAND EIGHT I TRIED TO
ADDRESS MY TRAUMA WITH.
TRADITIONAL THERAPY. WITH AN
EXPERIMENTAL FORM OF
TRANSCRANIAL MAGNETIC
STIMULATION WHICH DID HELP.
EXERCISE DIET AND UNFORTUNATELY
LIKE A LOT OF VETERANS I ADDRESS
MY ISSUES WITH DRUGS AND ALCOHOL
. SOMETHING'S HELP SOMETHING'S
DID AND CONSEQUENTLY- I HAVE
BEEN TORTURED MYSELF AND MY
FAMILY OUT ON A LOT OF LEVELS.
FOR THE BETTER PART OF FIFTEEN
YEARS. THIS PAST FEBRUARY THOUGH
I WAS SENT- WITHROW CARTS AND
NONPROFIT FOUNDED BY COMBAT
VETERAN JESSE GOLD AND SPONSOR
OF SB FIFTY EIGHT. WITH SIX
OTHER VETERANS ON A RETREAT
CENTER IN LATIN AMERICA WHERE WE
HAVE ACCESS TO PLANT MEDICINES
NOT READILY AVAILABLE- NOR LEGAL
IN THE U. S. THEY'VE BEEN
SENDING BACK FOR THE RETREATS
LIKE THIS SINCE TWENTY
SEVENTEEN. IT TOOK ME FOUR DAYS
OF TRAVEL THE GRANT FROM RURAL
PARTS THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS OF MY
OWN TO FIND HEALING THAT I'VE IN
SEARCH OF FOR OVER A DECADE IT'S
ALMOST HALF MY LIFE. IT WAS WELL
WORTH IT- NO OTHER TREATMENT IS
COME CLOSE TO WHAT I EXPERIENCED
IN LATIN AMERICA. NOT EVEN CLOSE
. FOR CONTEXT JUST THIS YEAR I
COMPLETED A PTSD PROGRAM WITH
THE VA IT TOOK ME SIX MONTHS TO
GET INTO THE PROGRAM SIX MONTHS
THIS IS TWENTY TWENTY THREE. I
GOT OF THE ARMY IN TWO THOUSAND
AND EIGHT. IT WAS VERY THE
PROGRAM WAS VERY HELPFUL TO ME
AND A LOT OF THE VETERANS BUT
THERE ARE A LOT OF ACTIONS THE
CAN'T WAIT SIX DAYS TO GET
TREATMENT. LET ALONE SIX MONTHS.
THE VETERAN AT SUICIDE EPIDEMIC
IS STILL REAL ACCORDING TO THE
VA'S MOST RECENT REPORT. SIX
THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY
SIX VETERANS COMMITTED SUICIDE
IN TWENTY TWENTY THAT'S JUST
TWENTY TWENTY. HOW MANY OF THOSE
LIVES MIGHT WE HAVE STATED THEY
HAD ACCESS TO PLANT MEDICINE THE
U. S. WITHOUT THE FEAR
PROSECUTION. SB FIFTY EIGHT IS A
BILL THAT ADDRESSES MENTAL
HEALTH ISSUES SPECIFICALLY IN
COMMUNITIES LIKE MINE VETERAN
COMMUNITIES. BUT AT THE END OF
THE DAY THAT THE SUICIDE
EPIDEMIC IS STILL SO REAL AND
RELEVANT ESPECIALLY TO THE
FAMILY MEMBERS OF LAS VETERANS
TO SUICIDE. THAT IT REALLY IS A
PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE AND IT'S A
PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE THAT NEEDS
TO BE ADDRESSED THE CALIFORNIA
IS A LEADER IN THAT AREA AND IN
THIS PROGRESSIVE. AND I HOPE
THAT YOU GUYS WALL THINK OF NOT
ONLY MY STORY BUT THE STORIES OF
ALL THE FAMILY MEMBERS. THAT HAD
TO SUFFER THE LOSS- YOU KNOW
HAVING A VETERAN COME HOME FROM
COMBAT. ONLY TO LOSE THEM WEEKS
DAYS MONTHS MAYBE EVEN YEARS
LATER- TO SUICIDE AND THE
BENEFIT OF THESE PLANT MEDICINES
ISRAEL. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME
YOUR CONSIDERATION THANK YOU. I
YOU GOT A MINUTE AND A HALF.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH MY NAME IS.
NITIN MILLS. I'M A LICENSED
CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGIST. A
CLINICAL RESEARCHER AND I'VE
COME HERE TODAY TO SHARE WITH
YOU. THAT PSYCHEDELIC MEDICINE
REPRESENTS THE SINGLE MOST
IMPORTANT BREAKTHROUGH. IN THE
TREATMENT OF MENTAL HEALTH IN
OUR LIFETIMES- WE AS A SOCIETY
OR HURTING. WANTED FIVE OF THIS
IS EXPERIENCE A DIAGNOSABLE
ANXIETY DISORDER WITHIN THE PAST
YEAR. TWENTY ONE MILLION ADULT
AMERICANS IN THE UNITED STATES
EXPERIENCE MAJOR DEPRESSION. I'M
SURE MANY OF US- HERE IN THIS
ROOM EXPERIENCE ANXIETY AND
DEPRESSION. AND NEEDED TREATMENT
470-006-0040 SIX AMERICANS ENDED
THEIR LIVES LAST YEAR WE HEARD A
LOT ABOUT THAT EARLIER- WE NEED
HELP. BUT SADLY THE HELP THAT'S
AVAILABLE TO US ISN'T VERY
HELPFUL- OUR BEST ESTIMATE
SUGGESTS THAT SSRIS LIKE PAXIL
PROZAC ZOLOFT. THE MAINSTAY
PRESCRIPTION TREATMENTS FOR
DEPRESSION AND ANXIETY ACCOUNT
FOR ONLY 2% OF CHANGE. IN
SYMPTOMS. TWO PERCENT- NOW THAT
MAY SOUND SHOCKINGLY LOW BUT
IT'S CONSISTENT WITH WHAT I'VE
HEARD FROM MY OWN PATIENTS.
NEVER IN THE PAST TWENTY YEARS
OF MY CLINIC. I HAD SOMEBODY
COME TO ME AND SAY DOCTOR BILLS.
AND THAT'S US ALL RIGHT CHANGED
MY LIFE. I'M CURED. BUT I HAVE
LOST COUNT OF THE NUMBER OF
TIMES. THAT I'VE HAD PEOPLE COME
TO MY OFFICE AND SAY DOCTOR
BILLS. I RECENTLY HAD AN
EXPERIENCE WITH A PSYCHEDELIC
AND I THINK I'M CURED. I'VE
HEARD PATIENTS SAY THAT MY
EXPERIENCE WITH THIS PLANT
MEDICINE HAS BEEN THE SINGLE
MOST PROFOUND AND MEANINGFUL
EXPERIENCE. OF MY LIFE ON PAR
WITH THE BIRTH OF MY FIRST
CHILD. I DON'T WANT TO DRINK
ANYMORE I'M READY TO GET BACK TO
WORK I'M NOT SAD I'M NOT
DEPRESSED I AM CURED. I'VE HEARD
THIS COUNTLESS TIMES ABOUT
PSILOCYBIN AND I WALK AND I
BEGIN I'VE NEVER HEARD THAT
ABOUT IN ESSENCE ALL RIGHT.
THESE ANECDOTAL EXPERIENCES ARE
ALSO CONSISTENT WITH THE SCIENCE
PSYCHEDELIC THERAPIES HAVE BEEN
SHOWN ACCOUNT 452% OF REMISSION
OF SYMPTOMS OF PTSD. 63% OF A
MEASURE IN THE SYMPTOMS OF THE-
SIX THREE PER. COMPARED 22% THAT
IS HUGE THAT IS A GAME CHANGER
AND NOT ONLY ARE THESE MEDICINES
EFFECTIVE. BUT THEY'RE ALSO
SAFER THE MOST ANTIDEPRESSANTS
OUT ON THE MARKET. THESE
MEDICINES OUTLINED IN THIS BILL
ARE NATURALLY SELF LIMITING
THEY'RE NOT ADDICTED EVEN AN
ANIMAL STUDY TIME SO. I URGE YOU
TO SUPPORT THIS BILL THANK YOU
THANK YOU. AT ANY OTHER IN.
SUPPORT OF THE BILL NAME AN
ORGANIZATION. MISTER CHAIRMAN
MEMBERS ANTHONY MILLION ON
BEHALF OF NEW APPROACH ADVOCACY
AND THE LAW ENFORCEMENT ACTION
PARTNERSHIP AND SUPPORT THANK
YOU. MARCO GEORGIA MY HALF OF
THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC DEFENDERS
ASSOCIATION AND SUPPORT THANK.
THE NAME IS DR KWESI IT DO SAM
AN OAKLAND BASED IMMIGRANTS AND
A DOCTOR OF NURSING PRACTICE HAS
BEEN DOING PUBLIC HEALTH WORK
WITH PSYCHEDELIC USED FOR THE
LAST DECADE. I SUPPORT SB FIVE
EIGHT BECAUSE I WAS ARRESTED FOR
STAYING SILENT THANK YOU AND
EVEN THOUGH THERE'S A LOSS THANK
YOU. HERS DISABILITY RIGHTS
CALIFORNIANS SUPPORT. REBECA
GONZALEZ NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF
SOCIAL WORKERS CALIFORNIA
CHAPTER IN SUPPORT. LIZZY GIVEN
SMART JUSTICE CALIFORNIA AND
INITIATE JUSTICE AND SUPPORT. IS
THIS ONE ARE BEHALF OF THE CITY
OF WEST HOLLYWOOD SUPPORTING.
OKAY NOT WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION
. OKAY. GOOD ALMOST AFTER THE
SIM MEMBERS MY NAME TO SINCE.
AND I NEW TO LET JUST ACT ADVERT
SIR ON THIS LEVEL. AND I FOR THE
CAL COALITION FOR PSYCH SAFETY
AND EDUCATE WITH OTHER. AS A
RESULT OF THE DEATH OF MY TWENTY
ONE YEAR OLD CHILD AFTER THE USE
OF PSILOCYBIN. THEY WERE STUDENT
A VERY ACCOMPLISHED AIRLIFTING
WAS ACCEPTED AT UNIVERSITY
CALIFORNIA DAVIS TWO MONTHS-
AFTER THEIR DEATH. ALIVE TRULY
CUT SHORT. I THINK THEY TOOK THE
PSILOCYBIN IN HOPES OF THE
THERAPEUTIC IT- AS THE PUBLIC
INFORMATION SHOULD SUGGEST AND
AS I BELIEVE. AFTER SEVERE
ADVERSE REACTION MY CHILD JUMPED
FROM A BRIDGE TO THEIR DEATHS.
THIS IS NOT CONJECTURE ON OUR
PART THEY VIDEOTAPED THE ENTIRE
TRIP ON THEIR IPHONE AND WE CAN
SEE THE ADVERSE REACTION WHEN IT
HAPPENED A BEFORE- THEIR DEATH.
OUR CHILD WAS ABLE TO BUY THE
PSILOCYBIN IN OAKLAND I'VE SEEN
THE BACK OF THE MUSHROOMS WHERE
THEY'VE BEEN PURCHASED NO
INSTRUCTIONS WERE GIVEN NO
INFORMATION ON THE POTENTIAL FOR
ADVERSE AFFECTS NO
RECOMMENDATION TO NOT DO IT
ALONE. WE GET MORE FROM ASPIRIN
AND VITAMINS. I AND I'M NOT
ALONE SINCE MY CHILD'S DEATH IN
DECEMBER I CAME TO KNOW FIVE
OTHER MOMS WITH LOST THEIR BID
TO PSILOCYBIN AND DMT AND THREE
MORE LAST WEEK. AND YET I WANT
EVERYONE HERE TO KNOW THAT I AM
PRO PSYCHEDELIC USE AND
APPRECIATE THEIR POTENTIAL FOR
HEALING BENEFITS AND I WANT TO
SEE THEM USED BUT I WANT TO SEE
THEM USE SAFELY. THE AMENDMENTS
PROPOSED WOULD NOT HAVE
PRESENTED MY CHILD'S DEATH OR
ANY OF THE OTHERS. THERE'S NO
EVIDENCE THAT PSYCHEDELICS ARE
RESPONSIBLE FOR EVEN A SMALL
PORTION OF DRUG ARRESTS. AND WE
JUST WANT AND WE AND WE AGREE WE
WANT TO SEE THE END TO DRUG WAR
POLICIES HOWEVER WE BELIEVE THE
CALIFORNIANS. DESERVE A SAFE AND
RESPONSIBLE POLICY. FRAMEWORK
AND APPROACH THIS BILL PROVIDES
NO SAFEGUARDS. OR PUBLIC
INFORMATION NO MEDICAL FRAMEWORK
AND NO PROTECTIONS FOR
VULNERABLE INDIVIDUALS SUCH AS
THOSE SUFFERING FROM MENTAL
HEALTH CONDITIONS. IN EVERY
STATE BUT CALIFORNIA THE
LEGISLATURES ARE EITHER
CONVENING ADVISORY BOARDS OR
COMMITTEES TO STUDY THE ISSUE OR
A SIMULTANEOUSLY PUTTING IN
PLACE A REGULATORY FRAMEWORK. TO
CREATE GUARDRAILS. WE HAVE
PROVIDED TO YOU LETTERS FROM
EXPERTS IN THE AREAS OF
SUBSTANCE AND PSYCHEDELIC USE.
AND THEIR MEDICAL AND
PSYCHIATRIC AND CLINICAL TRIAL
EXPERTS FROM UCSF AND DAY AND
STANFORD AND I URGE YOU TO LOOK
AT ALL OF THOSE LETTERS. ONE OF
THE KEY ISSUES WE HAVE LEARNED
FROM THESE EXPERTS IS THAT THE
TWO MOST IMPACTFUL FACTORS IN
PREDICTING AN INCREASE IN USE OF
SUBSTANCES. AN INCREASE IN
HARM'S FROM THOSE SUBSTANCES ARE
THE EASE OF ACCESS. AND
PERCEPTION OF DECREASED RISK
DECRIMINALIZING PSYCHEDELICS
WILL INCREASE BOTH OF THESE
FACTORS WITHOUT PUTTING IN THE
REGULATORY FRAMEWORK AND THE
SAFEGUARDS WITH AT THE SAME
TIME. THIS IS ESPECIALLY TRUE
FOR YOUNG PEOPLE AND THESE THESE
YOUNG PEOPLE AND OTHER
INDIVIDUALS LIKE THE VETERANS
THAT YOU ALL HAVE TALKED ABOUT.
OR THE AT THE GREATEST RISK FOR
ADVERSE CONSEQUENCES AND NEED
PROTECTIONS OUTLINED IN OUR
AMENDMENTS. AND SO I REALLY URGE
YOU TO OPPOSE THIS BILL UNLESS
IT IS FURTHER AMENDED AND WE ARE
WILLING TO WORK WITH THE AUTHOR
AND THE SPONSORS ON THOSE
AMENDMENTS BECAUSE WE DO WANT TO
SEE THESE- SUBSTANCES AVAILABLE.
BUT WE ALSO BELIEVE THAT IN THE
SAME TIME WE NEED TO PROTECT
PEOPLE FROM- FROM ARREST. WE
ALSO NEED TO PROTECT THE USERS
WITH PROPER SAFEGUARDS
GUARDRAILS IN A REGULATED
FRAMEWORK. THANK YOU. VERY
BRIEFLY BETH PARKER ALSO WITH
THE CALIFORNIA COALITION OF
PSYCHEDELIC SAFETY IN EDUCATION.
AND HEALTH CARE ATTORNEY I'M
ON'T OF- THE SAME CHILD
COMMITTED SUICIDE AS A RESULT OF
SELL SIDE AND- I JUST WANT TO
EMPHASIZE THAT WE SUBMITTED
LETTERS FROM FOR PSYCHIATRISTS
AND PROFESSORS AT UCSF AND
STANFORD. AS WELL AS TO PH DIS
AND PRINCIPAL INVESTIGATORS OF
CLINICAL TRIALS GOING FORTH AT
UCS OFF. ALL OF THOSE URGE THAT
YOU OPPOSE UNLESS THIS IS
AMENDED AND AT THE SAME TIME PUT
IN PLACE A REGULATORY FRAMEWORK.
PUBLIC EDUCATION TRAINING OF
FIRST RESPONDERS AND DATA
TRACKING THE RESEARCH RIGHT NOW
ALTHOUGH PROMISING IS NASCENT IT
IS JUST BEGINNING AND THEY ARE
DOCUMENTING HARMS SUCH AS
PSYCHOSIS VIOLENCE AND EVEN
DEATH AS OUR FAMILY
UNFORTUNATELY. EXPERIENCED THEY
ALSO SHOW CONTRA INDICATIONS AND
EXCLUDED FROM THOSE STUDIES
CATEGORIES OF PEOPLE THOSE WITH
THE- PSYCHIATRIC BACKGROUNDS OR
SUICIDAL IDEATION CARDIAC ISSUES
AND THE LIKE AND ALL OF THAT
MUST BE TAKEN ACCOUNT BEFORE WE
JUST OPEN THE DOORS AND
DECRIMINALIZE SUBSTANCES WHICH
ARE CURRENTLY UNDERGOING
CLINICAL TRIALS. AND WILL MOST
LIKELY BE APPROVED BY THE FDA
WITHIN THE NEXT FEW YEARS ONCE
THEY APPROVE IT TO BE SAFE AND
EFFECTIVE AND THE GUARD RAILS
ARE PUT IN PLACE SO WITH THAT
AGAIN. A SUSAN SAID WE URGE THAT
YOU OPPOSE IT WE ARE WILLING TO
WORK WITH AUTHORS OFFICE AND THE
SPONSOR TO GET IN PLACE AN
APPROPRIATE REGULATORY FRAMEWORK
AT THE SAME TIME WE DO NARAL
DECRIMINALIZATION. THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION. PERSECUTORS HE ON
BEHALF CITY OF A HILLS IN
RESPECTFUL. DANONE SANDY DEBIT
DISTRICT ASSOCIATION AND
SYNDICATES AGAINST CRIME IN
OPPOSITION. AS YOU TURNOVERS
COURCELLES ALONG WE HAVE THE
CALIFORNIA STATE SHERIFFS
ASSOCIATION OPPOSITION. TAWDRY
BE ABLE TO KIND JUST RETURNING
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
SOCIAIS ASIAN AND NOT OPPOSITION
THANK- ETHAN WE ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA FAMILY COUNCIL I
VEHEMENTLY OPPOSE THIS BILL. WE
HAVE A PORAC IN THE CALIFORNIA
ASSOCIATION HARPER TROLLING IN
OPPOSITION- US WELL SERVICES GO
AWAY THANK YOU THANK YOU. WE NOW
BRING. ALL HI. SORRY IT TOOK A
LITTLE BREAK AND WOMEN'S MY- AND
- MY NAME START OFF WALKING HERE
FROM COUNTY AND I'M THE VICE
CHAIR OF THE- LAKE COUNTY DEMO
CENTRAL COMMITTEE. I'M HERE
SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE
ALAMEDA COUNTY CENTRAL COMMITTEE
THE LAKE COUNTY CENTRAL
COMMITTEE AND A COALITION OF
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND PPD
SURVIVORS. ARE URGING YOU ARE A
STRONG SUPPORTER OF SB FIFTY.
THANK YOU. THAT WILL BRING IT
BACK TO COMMITTEE MEMBERS FOR.
MISTER LUCKY I JUST A REAL BRIEF
COMMENT THAT I THINK THAT. THIS
BILLS PATH OF LEGALIZED FIRST
AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS IS A WAY
TOO DANGEROUS AND I WILL NOT BE
SUPPORTING THIS PATHWAY. THANK
YOU. I MEAN ONE OF THOSE. AT ONE
ONE ONE I THINK THE WITNESSES
FOR BEING HERE- MY OLDER BROTHER
IS A COMBAT VETERAN- WHEN HE
SAID THAT STATISTICALLY I SHOULD
ABOUT FIFTEEN TIMES. THAT'S JUST
INCREDIBLY POWERFUL IN AND I
JUST WANNA THANK YOU FOR COMING
UP TO THE CAPITAL AND SHARE THAT
HAS THE MONEY ON BEHALF OF THIS
BILL I'M I THINK LEGALIZE AND
DECRIMINALIZE THERE'S NEW ONES
THERE AS WELL AND I THINK THE
OFFICE WORKED- ON THIS FOR MANY
MANY YEARS ITS LEFTIST COMMITTEE
BEFORE I'D LIKE TO SEE LEAVE
TODAY. PROUD CO AUTHOR- MOST OF
THE BILL. EXTENDED. YES WELL. SO
A COUPLE QUESTIONS THE AUTHOR I
KNOW YOU MAY. THAT THE CRIME DID
NOT GO UP OREGON. COLORADO I'M
SORRY THE STUDY. BROKAW I WISH
COLORADO SO THAT DID NOT GO UP.
I DO YOU KNOW IF. THE SO THE
OPPOSITION BROUGHT UP DEBTS LIKE
DID YOU SEE A SUICIDE BINGO UP
OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT AS FAR AS
RESEARCH WENT. YEAH BY THE WAY
I'VE AYE MET WITH- THE R. POSING
A WAY- WHAT WAS THE OF MINE I'M
- AND- AND I- AND WILL CONTINUE
TO HAVE. THAT ENGAGE RAN I'M AS
I SAID AT THE BEGINNING ON THAT
AS A FIX- THAT JUST. TO LOSE ONE
STARTED FORM AND PARTICULARLY
LIKE THIS IS JUST A HORRIFIC
TRAGEDY AND- AND I'M JUST MORE
PUBLICLY SAMMY. SORRY FOR YOUR-
HORRIFIC LOSS ON- AT THE SO. THE
THOSE STUDIES IN WE HAVE TO
STUDY THE THINK WE'D REMEMBER
HOW TO SEND YOU UP TO THE- TO
SURVIVE. TO THAT I'M AWARE OF-
OUT OF COLORADO AND- AND THEY-
TALK BRO OF. HEALTH AND-
EMERGENCY. VISITS ETCETERA THERE
IS NO WAY. OF AN INCREASE RAPID
ASCENT OF STUDIES- OVER OVER TO
YOU AS I INDICATED THE BEGINNING
WITH AT AND ANY SUBSTANCE THERE
ARE TERRORISTS AND THERE ARE AND
SO NO I'M NOT HERE TO SAY THAT.
HE SAID TO NEVER BE HARMFUL TO
ANYONE OR NO ONE COULD EVER HAVE
A BAD REACTION WE ALSO KNOW.
THAT A LARGE NUMBER OF
AMERICANS- I DON'T KNOW THE
EXACT NUMBER AS I SUSPECT IT'S
IN THE MILLIONS- BUT WHATEVER
THE NUMBER IS A LARGE NUMBER OF
AMERICANS. ARE USING
PSYCHEDELICS. TODAY RIGHT NOW I
HAVE BEEN FOR MANY MANY YEARS WE
CRIMINALIZE IN THE SEVENTIES AND
STOP THE USE PEOPLE BEEN USING
MUSHROOMS AND- I HUASCAR PEOPLE
BEEN USING THE SUBSTANCES THAT
ARE IN THIS BILL- MOLLY AND- LST
THAT INSTA TOP. THE KEPT USING A
- AND THE **** P. WHO ARE YOU.
THESE SUBSTANCES ARE HAVE. OF
THOSE X. SO I ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT
. ON AT EDUCATION AND TRYING TO
MAKE SURE PEOPLE IN. WHAT THE
RISKS- THAT'S FAR REDUCTION BUT
TELL PEOPLE IF THEY DO CHOOSE TO
USE TO MORE. I THAT 1000% ON
DOUBLE WE CRIMINALIZING SAY YOU
ARE A- BECAUSE YOU POSSESS.
MUSHROOMS YOU'RE A CRIMINAL THAT
MAKES IT LESS LIKELY THAT PERSON
IS GOING TO SEEK OUT
INFORMATION. BECAUSE THEY THINK
IF THEY TALK TO ANYONE ABOUT IT
THIRD MEETING THAT THEY'RE
COMMITTING A CRIME WHEN YOU WHEN
WE REMOVE THOSE CRIMINAL
PENALTIES FOR THE POSSESSION AND
USE. IT MAKES IT MORE LIKELY
PEOPLE SECRET EDUCATION. ON I
JUST WANNA SAY NUMBER OF THE
IDEAS FROM THE OPPONENTS ARE I
THINK FOR THE LONG RUN ARE ARE A
LOT OF THE WORK- CAN BE. VERY
GOOD IDEAS IF WE END UP WITH
LEGALIZATION AT A REGULATED
MARKET PLACE THAT'S SOMETHING
THAT A LOT OF US COULD GET
BEHIND. ON FOR CANNABIS AFTER
MEDICAL CANNABIS WAS LEGALIZED
IN I THINK NINETY SIX WHICH WAS
NOT DECRIMINALIZATION BUT WAS
CLOSER TO DECRIMINALIZATION. IT
TOOK TWENTY YEARS FOR CALIFORNIA
TO CREATE A LEGAL REGULATED
MARKETPLACE I DON'T WANT TO WAIT
TWENTY YEARS. TO STOP
CRIMINALIZING THE POSSESSION OF
THESE SUBSTANCES- SO THAT THAT'S
THAT THAT'S MY TAKE OKAY FOR THE
OPPOSITION THE DOCTOR ARE YOU
GUYS IS THIS. IS THERE A
GOVERNMENT AGENCY THAT HAS
APPROVED PLANT MEDICINE NO.
THERE IS A RIGHT. THERE IS AN EX
FOR CLINICAL TRIALS WHICH IS
WHAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY DOING THE
CLINICAL TRIALS AND- OKAY AND
THE- JASON FROM PLASTER COUNTY
THINK FOR SERVICE. I USE SO
YOU'RE TAKING PLANT BASED
MEDICINE. I HAVE YES SIR AND ARE
YOU UNDER A PRESCRIPTION FOR
THAT DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH YOU'RE
SUPPOSED TO USE HOW. HOW DOES
THAT GO ABOUT I SOUGHT OUT
PEOPLE IN MY COMMUNITY A LOT OF
THEM HAVE ACTUALLY DONE WORK
WITH THE HEALTHCARE COMMUNITY
MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS LIKE DR
MILLS SO THERE THERE ARE
PRESCRIBED PROTOCOLS JOHNS
HOPKINS HAS A PSILOCYBIN
PROTOCOL. THAT'S WIDELY UTILIZED
AND I ONE CABBIE I'D LIKE TO
MENTION IN ADDITION TO BE ABLE
TO USE- PLAN MEDICINE FOR
CLINICAL TRIALS THERE'S ALSO
RIGHT TO TRY PROVISION- WHICH IS
WHAT A LOT OF FOLKS ARE
ACCESSING PLAN MEDICINE THROUGH.
BUT IT'S STILL A VERY NARROWLY
FOCUSED- A PROVISION BUT STILL
NOT A PRESCRIBED IS NOT
PRESCRIBED NO. IT TOOK THEM TO
CLARIFY THAT CAN'T CANNABIS
STILL IS A PRESCRIBED IT'S
RECOMMENDED JUST BECAUSE OF THE
FEDERAL BUT LIKE IT'S NOT
FEDERALLY LEGAL BUT CALIFORNIA
YOU CAN RECOMMEND CANNABIS LIKE
MARIJUANA'S. THE STAFF TO DEAL
WITH YEAH. OKAY THANK YOU. RIGHT
YOU MAY CLOSE- I THINK I CLOSE
MY RESPONSE IS NUMBER IS UP I
WANT TO THANK. BOTH OUR
SUPPORTERS I WANT TO THANK THE
OPPONENTS I. THINK EVERYONE HAS
THE SAME ANGLE HERE WE ALL WANT
TO SEE SAFE ACCESS I THINK THERE
THERE IS A DIFFERENCE OF HOW WE
GET THERE MY VIEW IS THE FIRST
STEP IS LET'S NOT ARRESTING
PEOPLE. FOR POSSESSING AND
USING- AND THEN WE CAN BUILD
FROM THERE I UNDERSTAND NOT
EVERYONE AGREES WITH THAT
APPROACH BUT I PERSONALLY THINK
THAT THE US IS THE BEST
APPROACH. I ALSO WANT TO
STRUCTURE AND CONTINUING TO WORK
WITH THE COMMITTEE I'M WITH THE
HEALTH COMMITTEES AROUND THE
FACILITATED ARE USED TO MAKE
SURE WE HAVE- THOSE- THAT
FRAMEWORK IN PLACE- TO TRY TO
REALLY. MAXIMIZE A SAFE
FACILITATED USE BECAUSE IT'S
BETTER FOR SOMEONE TO USE WITH
OTHER PEOPLE IT'S JUST BETTER
AND WE WANT THAT TO HAPPEN WE
WANT TO HAPPEN SAFELY. AND I
RESPECTFULLY ASK RIVAL. THANK
YOU M. I KNOW YOU THIS IS THE
REFER IN SCHOOL. TO HEALTH.
WHERE SOME PRODUCT AND SAFE.
WHAT YOU YOU'RE GOING TO WORK ON
. TO MAKE SURE IT'S DONE- IS A
CONCERN THAT THE CA. OF J.
RECOMMEND I'VE QUIT COLD WILL.
ON S. B. SEVEN. SEES ME. SB
EIGHT WIENER THE MOTION IS TO
PASS AT THE MEN TO THE HEALTH
COMMITTEE. JOE SAWYER CHEN
SAWYER AYE ALLEN. ALANIZ NO. ON
TO HI BROWN. BRIAN I LACK. THANK
OR- BUT NOT VOTING. SANTIAGO SAN
DIEGO I JACKSON. JACKSON I. THE
MEASURE PASSES THANK YOU FOR
YOUR DOLLARS. I'VE BEEN WORKED.
HE GAVE TO KEEP. WHAT DO WE NEED
TO COME BACK.
YEAH YEAH. SHE. YEAH. YEAH WE
COULD. IF THE SENATOR MINE YEAH
THE SET CHAIR MISTER CHAIRMAN
THE MOTION OF THE CENTER OKAY IT
- THAT WE PRESENTATION OF ON THE
BILL. IT IRAQ. IF THE- I WE THAT
THAT'S ON A B. SEVEN SEVEN
CORRECT I'M SORRY WHICH WE'RE
WHICH ONE. YEAH THREE SEVEN
SEVEN TWO BILLS SHE HAS TO BE.
OKAY CALDERON. ON SB THREE SEVEN
SEVEN BY SENATOR SKINNER THE
MOTION IS TO PASS TO THE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE JONES
SAWYER GENSER HI ALANIZ. BONTA
BONTA HI BRIAN BRIAN I LACKEY
ORTEGA ORTEGA I SANTIAGO
SANTIAGO I JACKSON JACKSON I.
THAT MEASURE PASSES COULD WE DO
. CAN WE DO SECOND BILL THE SAME
. SB EIGHTY ONE SKINNER PAROLE
HEARINGS IF APPROPRIATE TO THE
HOUSE I WOULD LIKE TO MOTIONS
THAT THIS BILL BE- VOTED ON IF
IT'S OKAY WITH THE AUTHOR. THERE
TO JUST PROCEED WITH THAT. SO IF
IT'S OKAY WITH THE AUTHOR YES I
WOULD THAT WOULD BE AND YOU. BUT
I NEED TO COMMUNICATE THAT I AM
ACCEPTING THE COMMITTEES MMTS.
YES YES CENTER. IT'S ALREADY
BEEN AMENDED SALUTE TOOK CARE OF
THAT- OKAY I THOUGHT I HAD WAY
AHEAD AND THIS IS TO FILL THIS
ON THE L. A. O. REPORT THE- THIS
IS REGARD REGARDING PAROLE HERE
INTO SCHOOL HERE TO OKAY. THE
BILL'S BEEN MOVED INSIDE. ON SB
SEVEN SB EIGHTY I THINK SKINNER
THE MOTION IS TO PASS TO THE-
COMMITTEE JONES SAWYER AND SIR
HI ALANIZ. BONTA BONTA HI BRIAN
. RIGHT I LACK. ORTEGA I OR TO I
THANK YOUNG. SANTA I JACKSON.
JACKSON. HERE OPPOSITION- GOOD
WE NEED TO HAVE. OF. I DON'T
KNOW HOW WE DO THAT WE- IT WAS
WAIVED. BUT I MEAN IN THE
INTEREST OF FAIRNESS FOR BOTH.
WE ARE ABLE ON IT. PLEASE GO
AHEAD. GO AHEAD- BEFORE WE YOUR
THE OFFICE IF OUR GOING TO
PURSUE MAY I TO OPEN WITH QUICK
AND OKAY GO AHEAD AND ALLOW IT
LEAST ARE. RIGHT SO- APPRECIATE
THE COMMITTEES- SO FAR SUPPORT
THIS IS A BILL THAT ADDRESSES
RECOMMENDATIONS MADE BY THE
LEGISLATIVE ANALYST AFTER THE
LEGISLATIVE ANALYST OFFICE DID A
DETAILED REVIEW OF PAROLE
COMMITTEE DECISIONS AND FELT
THAT LOOK WE ALL HAVE IMPLICIT
BIAS THIS IS SOMETHING NO HUMAN
IS FREE OF. AND IT CAN AFFECT US
IN MANY WAYS AND SO WHAT THE L.
A. O.'S REPORT AND
RECOMMENDATIONS ARE TRYING TO DO
IS HELP COMPENSATE FOR THAT BY A
SITUATION THAT NEEDS TO BE
COMPENSATED FOR IN ALMOST EVERY
PROCEDURE THAT ANY OF US IN
CAJUN. AND THE BILL IS- IS
RATHER- SIMPLISTIC IN THAT
REGARD AND WITH- I WOULD LIKE TO
HAVE MY- EXPERT IN SUPPORT TO-
SPEAK TO IT WHICH IS- TOM KNOWS
RATES FROM THE PENAL CODE REVIEW
COMMITTEE IT'S ALTURAS MINERALS
I WOULD LIKE TO PERMANENT YOU
COMMIT. AND BELINDA AND FOR
FIVE. AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE
REMOVE BRIEF AND THEN WILL HAVE
A SIX HAVE. WE ON BOTH IF YOU'RE
WELCOME AND. I CAN- WAVE THAT IF
YOU AND WHICH IS LIKE WHETHER
FROM THERE. HERE TO WERE IN OUR
NOW HEARING. SO LET'S DO. EIGHTY
ONE RIGHT NOW YEP THAT'S WHAT WE
DO. IN IN THEY WILL GO BACK TO
THE OTHER FIRST TO THIS ONE
RIGHT NOW. GO NO GREAT THANK
MEMBERS AND STAFF I SUPPOSED TO
I'M SO THIS OFFICE WAS ON DEATH
BILL. IS JUNE FIRST I'M HERE ON
SB ONE OKAY SO WE'RE ONLY
DEALING WITH DATING ONE AND-
FOR- CHAIR OVER HER FOR THAT ARE
WITH. AND NOT PER SE WE YES. WE
CAN THEN WAIT THIS OKAY WE'RE
WAIT THAT OKAY GO AHEAD GO AHEAD
YOU KNOW OPSIN UP EIGHT ONE YES
. THANK YOU CHAIR MEMBERS WE ARE
HERE SPEAK. MY NAME IS JOHN
CROSSING DEFEATED IN RETURN KIND
OF SAN DIEGO I'M VERY HAPPY TO
SEE A.
WELL HEARINGS THIRTY THREE
PERCENT. ONE IN THREE INMATES
YOU GO TO A PAROLE HEARING GET
GRANTED PAROLE. RECIDIVISM RATE
IS TWO POINT 7% STREAMING WE
TALKED ABOUT A BILL EARLIER THIS
COOPER PROGRAM THAT 6%
RECIDIVISM RATE IN PEOPLE WERE
IMPRESSED. TWO POINT 7% WE MAY
NOT ALWAYS AGREE WITH THE GRANTS
OF PAROLE. VICTIMS AND THEIR
FAMILIES OFTEN DON'T AGREE WITH
THE GRANTS OF PAROLE. BUT BE
PH'S STATISTICS AND RECORD
SPEAKS FOR ITSELF. WE APPRECIATE
SENATOR SKINNER'S MOTIVE TO
REMOVE BIAS FROM HERE. NO ONE
WANTS TO SEE A BIASED. WE ALSO
APPRECIATE PRIOR AMENDMENTS TO
THIS BILL THE TWO BIGGEST ISSUES
WITH THE CURRENT BILL IS
CHANGING THE STANDARD FOR
PROGRAM AND WOMEN CERTAIN
FACTORS MEASURES CAN CONSIDER
ADHERENCE. CHANGE THIS FROM SOME
OF TO A PREPONDERANCE OF THE
EVIDENCE IS HUGE IT WILL
INCREASE A GRANT RIGHT. MORE
FOLKS WILL BE GRANTED PAROLE BUT
IT WILL NOT INCREASE PUBLIC
SAFETY. RECIDIVISM RATES WILL GO
UP FROM THAT TWO POINT 7% IF WE
DOUBLE THE GRANT OF ROLES. THE
REGENERATES NOT GONNA DOUBLE
IT'S GONNA QUINTUPLED OR MAYBE
MORE. BECAUSE THE FOLKS THAT ARE
GETTING RELEASED. WILL NOT BE
PREPARED FOR A GRAPH FOR ALL.
PEOPLE WILL BE GRANTED PAROLE
HAVE DONE PROGRAM. THEY'VE
DEVELOPED INSIDE THE INTERSTATE
AND WHY THEY COMMITTED THE
CRIMES THE BILL COPING COPING
MECHANISMS AND REACT FOR PENSION
PLANS TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES.
THERE PEARL PLANTS THEY BEHAVE
WELL IN PRISON. THERE FOR GRANT
FOR ALL THEY GET GRANT FOR. THE
FOLKS GEORGE NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT
IN THE AREAS. MOVING THE GOAL
LINE FOR A GREAT WILL MAKE THE
INMATES GRANTED. ANY SAY. IT
JUST FROM UNSUITABLE IN MAY NOW
FOR. AND RELEASE THEM AT A COST
PUBLIC'S. ADDITION THE REVIEW IN
THIS BILL. ALLOWS REPORT USES
INDEPENDENT. NOT JUST TO SEE IF
THE COMMISSION ABUSED THEIR
DISCRETION WHEN GRANTING PAROLE.
IN ESSENCE GIVES JUDGES AND
COURTS MORE DISCRETION IN THE
COMMISSION. THE COMMISSIONER
SOMEONE'S TRAINING AND- HEARINGS
HAVE REVIEWED THE FILE THERE
AFTER HEARING THE JUDGES ARE NOT
THERE JUST REVIEWING. THEY'RE
NOT TRAINED TO HANDLE HEARINGS.
THEY'RE NOT HEARING THE READING
OF TRANSCRIPTS ON THE WAS MUCH
DIFFERENT. AND I'M NOT THE BEST
QUALIFIED PERSON TO MAKE THE
DECISION. THERE'S ALSO AN ISSUE
WITH THE WOMEN FACT. THE
COMMISSIONERS CAN CONSIDER HERE
. CHECK A WEEK THREE. MENTAL
ILLNESS AND SUBSTANCE BE.
MAJORITY OF THE LIFE CRIME
INMATES HAVE ONE OR BOTH OF
THESE AND IT'S INTERTWINED WITH
THEIR CRIMINAL HISTORY. THE TWO
BIGGEST REASONS THAT INMATES
RETURN TO PRISON WHETHER GRANTED
PAROLE. IT'S SUBSTANCE ABUSE
RELAPSE. INTERESTED PILOTS. IF
WE DON'T ADDRESS THESE ISSUES
AND BET THEM AT THE HEARING.
IT'S GOING TO CAUSE ISSUES IT'S
GONNA CAUSE RECIDIVISM IT'S
GONNA MAKE THE PUBLIC LESS SAFE
. GAME MEMBERSHIP IS VERY
DANGEROUS MANY INMATES HAVE GANG
TIES REST ASSURE THOSE TIES ARE
SEVERED MUST BE ADDRESSED TO THE
HEARING. LAST BERMAN OR
NONVERBAL COMMUNICATION TONE OF
VOICE VOICE SPEECH FACIAL
EXPRESSIONS BODY LANGUAGE AND
EYE CONTACT. 7293% CATION IS NOT
FOR. ALL OF YOU RIGHT NOW ARE
JUST LOOKING IN MY WORDS. YOU'RE
WATCHING SHE WAS IN MY COUNTY.
MY FLEXION WHERE I'M WORKING
WHEN I'M DOING MY HANDS ALL THE
NUMBER OF. NOT JUST THE WORDS
I'M SPEAKING. IN HAVE DONE A
LITANY OF THINGS ADHERENCE. FOOT
COMMISSIONER. MOON TO THEM.
ARGUED WITH THEM GOT UP AND
WALKED OF THE ROOM TALK OVER
THEM AND NUMEROUS OTHER THINGS.
NOT ALLOWING THE COMMISSIONERS
TO CONSIDER THESE. IS EXTREMELY
DANGEROUS. IT GOES IN THE
TOTALITY OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES.
WE ARE OPPOSED TO THIS BILL AND
THIS BILL WILL MAKE THE PUBLIC
LESS SAFE SOME OF THAT. THANK
YOU ARE THERE ANY OTHER. IN THE
ROOM. THAT OPPOSED THE S. B. AB
ONE NAME AND ORGANIZATIONS THAT
ARE IN THE ROOM. THANK YOU
CHAIRPERSONS DANONE'S SAN
DIEGANS AGAINST CRIME AND SAN
DIEGO DEPUTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S
ASSOCIATION OPPOSED. TODD REBEL
TYPE RADIOMETER COUNTY DISTRICT
ATTORNEY ALSO CO CHAIR OF THE
CDA LIFER COMMITTEE STRONGLY
OPPOSED. OKAY THANK YOU. WE'RE
GOING TO GO BACK. NOW TO S. B.
BECAUSE A LOT. OF THINGS
OPPOSITION. ASSEMBLY SUPPORT. I
THOUGHT SHE WAVES. OKAY IS A OF
A EIGHTY ONE. NAME ORGANIZATION
FOR AT LEAST THOSE OF THE TWO
SHOULD BE ABLE TO SAY ARE SOME.
THANK YOU SHARE A YOUR HELP FOR
ACTION STAR GO AHEAD YEAH YOU
COULD BE ON BEHALF OF EAST YOU
CAL ACTION IT'S- THANK YOU.
WISSAHICKON JUSTICE CALIFORNIA
INITIATE JUST. IN SUPPORT. TO
CAM ON BEHALF ONE COMMON LAW
STRONG SUPPORT. FOR THIS. J.
KING ON BEHALF OF THE ELEVATORS
FOR YOU RIGHTS STRONG SUPPORT.
REALLY STARTED READING FOR SHE A
VERY P. AND HUMAN RIGHTS WATCH
AND. DROMOLAND HERE ON BEHALF OF
THE SERVICES PRISONERS WITH
CHILDREN IN STRONG SUPPORT THANK
YOU. FOR THE SAKE MARCO GEORGE
ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
PUBLIC DEFENDERS ASSOCIATION AND
THE SAN FRANCISCO PUBLIC
DEFENDER'S OFFICE AND STRONG
SUPPORT THANK YOU. THIS IS. JUST
RAZA OFFICE OF ATTORNEY GENERAL
BONTA IN SUPPORT THANK YOU.
APRIL GRAYSON ON BEHALF OF THE
SYSTEM WHERE FREEDOM COALITION
IS STRONG SUPPORT. WAS IT
BECAUSE THEY WOULD CALIFORNIANS
SAFETY AND JUSTICE IN SUPPORT.
JOIN SHARE ON BEHALF OF FELONY
MURDER ELIMINATION PROJECT IN
STRONG SUPPORT. AND YOU SAID YOU
WOULDN'T. SO IT THANK YOU CHAIR
SO IT GO AHEAD APPROPRIATE THEM
TO BE ABLE TO GIVE THEIR BRIEF
REMARKS BRIEF REMARKS YES. MANY
IS BELINDA A MY LIFE AND NINE
NINETY AS A OF MY DIRECT. WHEN I
GOT TO PRISON UP FOCUS ON THE
COVER FROM MY TRY MY LIFE I'VE
BEEN SO THIRTY FIVE THIRTY FIVE
YEARS. I TAKES OVER TO BECAME A
- IN THE END OF THE CLOSELY TO
RE. AT THE TWO SIX YEAR IN
PRISON THE WAR THE BORDER PRISON
TERM SUPREME COURT WITH ME TO
GOVERNOR TO COME. I WAS GRANTED
TO BACK THEM BROWN AND THOUSAND
EIGHTEEN THE DA ALSO BEFORE WE-
WHEN I WENT TO MY PEROT TO
HEARING AT THE VEHICULAR FOR SO
CON I WAS NOT THE REASON AND TO
DO OF THESE. THE COME FOR ON
VERY OLD BY. IT THE LAST ONE I
WAS TO THE FOUR PROMOTE AND I'VE
BEEN. THAT HAD BEEN SPOT. THEY
ALSO PLAY I HAD A CALLED I NEVER
WAS NEVER BEEN OF WHAT. THEY
SAID ON THE OKAY. AND I WAS
SAYING THE RIGHT THESE THEY JUST
DIDN'T BELIEVE ME I GOT A THREE
DIDN'T I MUST TRY. THEM IN AT
LEAST THREE MORE YOU ABOUT THEM
YOU FRIENDS A WAY SO HARD TO
MAKE A ME AND WITH DIRECTOR.
AWAY I FELT LIKE I HAD THIS UP
WITH AREA. I KNEW I IN A IN
YEARS PRISON I WOULDN'T MANY WHO
DEEPLY. IT WOULD BE S. AND RICH
TO THEIR- YEAH THEY WOULD DO NOT
PAROLE ARE REASONS. FRIENDS OF
MINE WHO DID EVERY THE BOY
ACTUALLY COULDN'T TAKE THE CITY
CLASSES WITH THE INTO THEY WILL
BE. THIS IS.
NOT THERE MOST PEOPLE DON'T HAVE
THAT SUPPORT I SUPPORT SB EIGHTY
ONE BECAUSE PAROLE SYSTEM NEEDS
TO BE FAIR IT NEEDS TO FOCUS ON
WHETHER SOMEONE IS AN ACTUAL
RISK NOW WITH THE COMMISSION
ISSUES HAVE A HUNCH ABOUT THE M.
AND THEIR HISTORY SO THEY CAN
SAFELY COME HOME. I'VE BEEN HOME
FOR A YEAR I WORK IN HOMELESS
WITH FIVE TV'S I'M ALREADY ON A
ROW IS SO TO ABLE SPEND TIME
MATH AGAIN BACK TO MY- THANK YOU
. THANK YOU CHAIR KEEP IT- X.
BRIEF I'M TOM ALSO WITH LEGAL-
FOR THE COMMITTEE UNDER OF THE
CODE AS CENTER MENTIONED- IS A
MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE WITH
YOUR COLLEAGUES THE NUMBER
BROUGH- THE PEOPLE COULD COME.
SPENT A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF
TIME LOOKING AT THE CURRENT
PROCESS AND CONCLUDED THAT
THERE'S TOO MUCH SUBJECTIVITY
UNPREDICTABILITY THAT A GREATER
ROLE FOR COURT OVERSIGHT WOULD
BE APPROPRIATE- AND THE-
STATISTICS THAT MY- FRIEND FROM
THE SAN DIEGO DA'S OFFICE
OFFERED ARE NOT ACCURATE.
PROGRAM RATE LAST YEAR WAS 14%
AND IT'S GONE DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY
IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS SO IT'S
NOT TRUE THAT IF YOU GO INTO THE
ROOM. ARE THAT IF YOU'RE
ELIGIBLE YOU'RE ONE IN THREE
CHANCE TO GET GRANTED. COURTS
HAVE PLAYED THIS ROLE OF-
REVIEWING PRO DECISIONS DECADES
NOW BUT THE LAW. THIS BODY IS
NEVER. HAD ANY INPUT ON HOW
COURTS ARE SUPPOSED TO DO THAT
SB EIGHTY ONE AMONG OTHER THINGS
WOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE-
RESPONSIBLE LEGISLATURE TO THIS
THESE ISSUES THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. WOULD LIKE A RESPOND
NOTICED SIX DONE SO NOW GO BACK
- TO EFFORT. DOES THE CRISPY
ONE. WILL NOW GO BACK TO S.
THREE SEVENTH. FOUR WITH TEST.
AS PREVIOUSLY. THE BALL WAVE
PRESENTE. SO WITNESSES IN. OF
THREE SO SAID CAN NOW. COME FOR.
THEY MAY HAVE LEFT BUT THE- I'D
. SEVEN AND THEN. F. K. C. IN
THE EARLY WITNESS. FOR ME TO USE
. OKAY THERE WOULDN'T NOT. THREE
SEVENTHS MR SELF SAID.
SURE SURE MEMBERS CORY ALTHOUGH
ON THE OF THE CALIFORNIA STATE
SURE IS. OPPOSITION TO SB THREE
SEVENTY SEVEN. THE REASON THE
TEN THE WAY- ON THIS BILL NOT TO
INDIVIDUAL PIECE OF. THAT THE OF
THEM UNDERGO RIGOROUS INITIAL
AND ONGOING BACKGROUND CHECKS AS
A CONDITION OF EMPLOYMENT- THIS
BILL CREATES UNNECESSARY
ADMINISTRATIVE BURDENS FOR PEACE
OFFICERS WHO REQUIRE FIREARMS.
INCLUDING FOR USE IN CONNECTION
WITH THE EMPLOYMENT- PROPONENTS
I SUSPECT WOULD NOTE THAT- THEY
CAN ALREADY ACQUIRED THE WEAPONS
THROUGH THEIR AGENCIES BUT AGAIN
THERE IS NO NEED TO. REMOVE THIS
THE FORTY- ADDITIONALLY THE
UNSAFE HANDGUN LAW- HAS RESULTED
EXCEEDINGLY FEW- APPROACHING
ZERO NEW FIREARMS BEING APPROVED
FOR CALIFORNIA SALEM RECENT
YEARS DESPITE THE FACT THAT THE
ONLY REASON OR DEEMED UNSAFE IS
BECAUSE- CERTAIN WORDS WERE PUT
INTO STATUTE TO INDICATE THEY
LACKS CERTAIN FEATURES- THAT THE
LEGISLATURE HAS DECIDED MAKES
THE LACKING OF SUCH A FEATURE
MAKES A FIREARM UNSAFE- THAT.
UNSAFE HANDGUN LAW IS BEING LIVE
KERR- AND PEACE OFFICERS BE ABLE
TO LAWFULLY OFFICIAL ACQUIRE THE
TOOLS THEY NEED WITHOUT
UNNECESSARY INTERFERENCE- I.
FIGURED ALREADY BEEN VOTED ON
SOUL SIX YOU FOR THE. ARE THERE
ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION. WHICH JUST. PLEASE
HAVE BEEN DISPENSED WITH- THE
COMMITTEE WILL IS NOW IN RECESS
AND WILL RECONVENE APOLOGY ARE
MEANT UP SESSION- IN ROOM ONE
TWENTY SEVEN THANK YOU.
RIGHT THAT THE RIGHT ONE. WHAT
ASSEMBLY IN ORDER AGAIN AND
WE'RE NOW WAITING FOR A SENATOR.
TO COME BEFORE SENATE PUBLIC
SAFETY ASSEMBLY PUBLIC SAFETY
AND THAT'S A SENATOR JONES.
SENATOR ALBARADO GIL. SENATOR
RUBIO. SENATOR WA HOB AND
SENATOR CABALLERO. THEY'RE STILL
IN SESSION. LET'S DO THE ADULTS
WHILE WE'RE WAITING. OTHER
CONSENT CALENDAR. BONTA I BRIAN
BRIAN. AYE. ITEM NUMBER ONE SP
TWO BY SENATOR PORTANTINO. THIS
MEASURE WAS ON CALL COLONIES ANY
SNOW. BONTA? AYE. SANTIAGO.
JACKSON JACKSON I, THAT MEASURE
PASSES. NUMBER TWO SB 46 WAS ON
CONSENT. ITEM NUMBER THREE SB 58
HAS BEEN DISPENSED WITH I DON'T
NUMBER FOUR SB 67 IS ON CONSENT.
ITEM NUMBER FIVE. SB 81 BY
SENATOR SKINNER ELONIS. ANY SNOW
LACKEY LUCKY NO. ITEM NUMBER SIX
SB 89. THAT MEASURE WAS PULLED
BY THE AUTHOR. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN
S P 94. WE'RE STILL WAITING ON
MR SANTIAGO. EXCUSE ME. IT WAS
NOT CONFIRMED, RIGHT? ITEM
NUMBER 11. SB 2 41 BY SENATOR
MIN ORTEGA. ITEM NUMBER ONE ITEM
NUMBER 11 SP 2 40. IT'S PRETTY
MUCH ONE MINUTE. HI. ORTEGA?
AYE.
NOTHING. ITEM NUMBER 12 WAS PUB
SB 2 68 WAS PULLED BY THE AUTHOR
. ITEM NUMBER 13 SB 2 81 WAS ON
CONSENT ITEM 14 SP 309 WAS ON
CONSENT. ITEM NUMBER 15 SP 359
BY SENATOR AMBERG BONTA BONTA NÓ
SANTIAGO. AND ON
RECONSIDERATION. BAN TO BAN TÚI.
AND SANTIAGO STILL UH, I DON'T
NUMBER 16 SP 3 68 BY SENATOR
PORTANTINO. THIS MEASURE WAS ON
CALL COLONIES. NOBODY ALONE IS
NOT VOTING BONTA I SANTIAGO
JACKSON JACKSON I THAT MEASURE
NOW PASSES I DON'T NUMBER 17 SP
3 77 BY SENATOR SKINNER ELONIS
ELENI SNOW, BLACKIE BLACKIE. NO.
I DON'T NUMBER 18 IS STILL
PENDING. ITEM NUMBER 19. SB 4 52
BY SENATOR BLAKE SPEAR. THIS
MEASURE WAS ON CALL BANTA I,
BRIAN BRIAN. AYE. SANTIAGO. THAT
MEASURE NOW PASSES. ITEM NUMBER
20 SB 4 64 WAS ON CONSENT. ITEM
21. SB 4 74 BY SENATOR BECKER.
THIS MEASURE WAS ON CALL. I'M
SORRY. THIS MEASURE PASSED
ALREADY. BANTA BANTA I BRIAN
BRIAN EYES SANTIAGO. ITEM NUMBER
22 SB 602 BY SENATOR ARCHULETTA
ORTEGA ORTEGA. AYE. ITEM 23 SB
63 IS STILL PENDING ITEM 24 SB 6
90 WAS PULLED BY THE AUTHOR.
ITEM 25 SB 7 53 IS STILL
PENDING. AND ITEM 26 SB 7 96 WAS
PULLED BY THE AUTHOR. UM. SO
THESE SENATE IT'S ON THERE. LAST
TWO BILLS. IT'S A LITTLE MORE
CHALLENGING IN THAT ONE OF THE
LAST TWO IS THE TECH FILM TAX
CREDIT WOULD FIVE MIX UP?
SO NO. ENTER UM DOES.
STANDARD. PM IN THIS ROOM. THE
SENATE IS STILL MEETING. UM THEY
HAVE SOME VERY IMPORTANT TO MORE
BILLS, AND THEY'RE VERY
IMPORTANT BILLS. ONE OF THE FILM
TAX CREDIT. UM THERE ARE FIVE
MIKES UP AND IT'S OBVIOUSLY
VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. BILL THAT
THEY NEED TO GET TO AND I THANK
EVERYONE FOR BEING HERE. UM, THE
CONSENSUS IS THAT WE ADJOURNED
FOR ANOTHER RECESS. I'M SORRY.
WRONG WORD RECESS RECESS. FOR
ANOTHER HOUR 15 MINUTES AND GET
BACK HERE AT FIVE. THANK YOU. WE
STAND IN RECESS. I'M IMPRESSED.
WE GOT DOWN HERE SO FAST. I'M
REALLY IMPRESSED. Y'ALL BEAT ME
HERE.
YOU CAN'T. OOPS. I FORGOT TO
CLOSE THE DOOR. ALRIGHT. UM I
HAVE. THANK GOD. WE HAVE TWO
AUTHORS, UH, HAVE MR JONES NEXT
ALMOST YOU WANT TO BEING A
POLITE GENTLEMAN WILL ALLOW ME
TO GO. I'M WAITING. QUICK. YOU
BETTER. ALL RIGHT, SENATOR WAHA.
THANK YOU. AH! UH A S B 404.
ITEM NUMBER. 18 CAN'T READ HER
HANDWRITING. THANK YOU. CHAIR
AND MEMBERS. I'M HERE TO SPEAK
TO YOU TODAY ABOUT SB 44 THE
SAFE MINORS ACT, WHICH WILL
ENSURE THAT CHILDREN IN
CALIFORNIA CANNOT BE COERCED
INTO ILLEGAL MARRIAGES. I WANT
TO START BY ACCEPTING THE
COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS AND
THINKING THE CONSULTANT FOR
THEIR WORK AS MANY OF YOU KNOW.
CURRENT LAW IN CALIFORNIA
REQUIRES MINORS TO PARTICIPATE
IN RIGOROUS PROCESS IN ORDER TO
OBTAIN PERMISSION TO MARRY.
WHILE SOME MYSELF INCLUDED
SPECIFICALLY HAVE CONCERNS, WITH
MINORS, GETTING MARRIED UNDER
ANY CIRCUMSTANCE. CALIFORNIA
DOES HAVE SOME GUARDRAILS TO
PROTECT CHILDREN. WHEN MARRIED
LEGALLY, MINERS RECEIVE
INFORMATION ABOUT THEIR RIGHTS
AS AN EMANCIPATED MINOR
INFORMATION ABOUT HOW THEY CAN
SEPARATE FROM THEIR MARRIAGE AND
ARE PROVIDED ACCESS TO THE
NATIONAL DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
HOTLINE AND NATIONAL SEXUAL
ASSAULT HOTLINE. HOWEVER CURRENT
LAW DOES NOT ACCOUNT FOR
INSTANCES IN WHICH A THIRD PARTY
ARRANGES AN UNDERGROUND MARRIAGE
BETWEEN A MINOR AND ANOTHER
PERSON. THIS GAP IN EXISTING LAW
PUTS CHILDREN OF ALL AGES AT
RISK OF BEING COERCED OR FORCED
INTO MARRIAGES BY A THIRD PARTY
WITHOUT THE PROTECTION PROVIDED
THROUGH CALIFORNIA'S LEGAL
MARRIAGE LICENSING PROCESS. SB
44 WOULD ALIGN ILLEGAL CHILD
MARRIAGE WITH OTHER TYPES OF
ILLEGAL MARRIAGE BY MAKING IT A
MISDEMEANOR FOR ANY PERSON TO
OFFICIATE A MARRIAGE BETWEEN A
MINOR AND ANOTHER PERSON THAT
OCCURS OUTSIDE OF THE CONFINES
OF EXISTING MARRIAGE LICENSING
LAWS. WHILE I UNDERSTAND THAT
SOME MAY HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE
CREATION OF A NEW CRIME WITH THE
AMENDMENTS I ACCEPTED TODAY, I
THINK THIS BILL BALANCES THOSE
CONCERNS WHILE ALSO PROTECTING
CHILDREN FROM OPPORTUNITIES. FOR
ABUSE AND COERCION. I URGE ALL
OF YOU TO SUPPORT THIS BILL,
WHICH TAKES A STEP FORWARD
TOWARDS ENSURING THAT MINERS IN
CALIFORNIA OR SAFE, PROTECTED
AND EMPOWERED TO MAKE INFORMED
DECISIONS ABOUT THEIR LIVES AND
THEIR FUTURES. I RESPECTFULLY
ASK FOR AN I VOTE. THANK YOU
HAVE ANY WITNESSES? NO, WE'RE
GOOD. OKAY EVERYONE THAT NOW
TAKING COMMENTS FROM THOSE WHO
ARE IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL. SEEN
ON IS THERE ANYONE IN OPPOSITION
TO THE BILL? SEEING NONE WILL
BRING IT BACK TO COMMITTEE AND
THE QUESTIONS COMMENTS. 10
YEARS. YOU LOVE THE BELL. COME
ON, TURN YOUR MIC. OKAY, THERE
WE GO. FIRST IN THE SECOND. NO
MORE COMMENTS. YOU MAKE CLOTHES
. I RESPECTFULLY ASK HER AND I
VOTE RECOMMENDED. AYE. SB 404 BY
SENATOR WILL HAVE THE MOTION IS
DUE PASS AS A MANAGER OF THE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE JOHN
SAWYER, ELONIS. AYE, BONTA.
BRIAN BLACKIE, BLACKIE I ORTEGA
SANTIAGO. JACKSON MEASURES ON A
CALL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU,
SENATOR. COVER IT. SHE DID GOOD.
THANK YOU, SENATOR JONES FOR
BEING SO GRACIOUS TO YOUR
COLLEAGUE. I APPRECIATE THAT.
REMEMBER? HOW ARE YOU TODAY? I
FEEL GROOVY. GROOVY ALRIGHT LIKE
THAT I'LL BE GROOVY TO THEIR
GROUPING TOGETHER. I DON'T KNOW.
PRETEND SB 236 JONES HUMAN
TRAFFICKING VERTICAL
PROSECUTION. PROGRAM. THANK YOU
READY? I'M SORRY. I LIKE THAT.
THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. I WOULD
LIKE TO START BY ACCEPTING THE
COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS TO REMOVE
THE APPROPRIATION FROM THE BILL
. SB 2 36 IS AN EFFORT TO
CONFRONT THE SCOURGE OF HUMAN
TRAFFICKING THAT YOUR
COMMITTEE'S ANALYSIS APTLY
POINTS OUT, IS AMONG THE WORLD'S
FASTEST GROWING CRIMINAL
ENTERPRISES. HAVE A COUPLE OF
WITNESSES HERE THAT I'VE
TRAVELED UP TODAY, SO RATHER
THAN ME, GO INTO DEPTH ON MY
OPENING COMMENTS. I WILL YIELD
MY TIME TO THEM. THE FIRST ONE
UP TODAY, SIR. IS TODD RE BE
FROM THE CALIFORNIA DISTRICT
ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION WILL BE
FOLLOWED BY DAN OWENS, THE
ASSISTANT CHIEF OF SEX CRIMES
AND HUMAN TRAFFICKING FOR THE
SENEGAL DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S
OFFICE. SO WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY
AMENDMENT COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS.
I DON'T WANT YOU TO WELL, THEN I
WON'T ACCEPT THE COMMITTEE
AMENDMENTS REMOVING THE
APPROPRIATION FROM THE BILL.
THIS MIGHT BE LEFT OVER FROM OUR
LAST COMMITTEE. ACTUALLY SIR, SO
THANK YOU KNOW THAT WAS A TEST
PASSED. JUST WANNA LET YOU KNOW
, AND WE DO ACTUALLY READ, OKAY
. I APPRECIATE THAT SO TAWDRY
VÆ. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR
CHAIR AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS. MY
NAME IS TODD RIBBON. I'M THE
DISTRICT ATTORNEY OF AMADOR
COUNTY. AND I'M SPEAKING TODAY
ON BEHALF OF CDA IN SUPPORT OF
SB 2 36 SB 2 36 WOULD ESTABLISH
A NEW PROGRAM WITHIN THE OFFICE
OF EMERGENCY SERVICES, LIKE MANY
OTHER GRANTS TO PROVIDE
FINANCIAL AND TECHNICAL SUPPORT
FOR UP TO 11 COUNTIES TO SUPPORT
THE VERTICAL PROSECUTION OF
HUMAN TRAFFICKING. THE REASON
THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR GRANTS
IS BECAUSE WE'RE DEPENDENT UPON
AND ALL THESE JURISDICTIONS
SUPPORTERS SUPERVISORS FOR
FINANCIAL SUPPORT EACH YEAR AND
WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT ADDING A
SPECIALIZED UNIT OF PEOPLE
SKILLED IN INVESTIGATING AND
PROSECUTING AND SUPPORT STAFF
FOR HUMAN TRAFFICKING. AH ASKING
A BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO, UM,
PROVIDE THAT FUNDING FOR SOME
COUNTIES AS A VERY HEAVY LIFT,
BUT WE KNOW THAT THAT'S THE BEST
MODEL THAT'S OUT THERE. HUMAN
TRAFFICKING REMAINS A LUCRATIVE
CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE. IT IS
ESTIMATED THAT THIS MODERN DAY
FORM OF SLAVERY TRAFFICS BETWEEN
14,000 TO 17,000 VICTIMS
ANNUALLY. MOST OF THOSE ARE IN
CALIFORNIA. THOSE WHO TRAFFIC IN
HUMAN FLESH KNOW VERY WELL THAT
THEY CAN INFLICT MENTAL AND
PHYSICAL PAIN UPON THEIR VICTIMS
, MAKING THE CRIME VERY
DIFFICULT TO PROSECUTE. THE
TRAFFICKERS ALSO MOVED THEIR
ENTERPRISE ACROSS VARIOUS
JURISDICTIONS TO AVOID DETECTION
, THE BEST METHOD KNOWN TO
ATTACK HUMAN TRAFFICKERS IS
THROUGH VERTICAL PROSECUTION
UNITS. THERE ARE SUPPORTED BY
VICTIM ADVOCACY INVESTIGATION
AND PROSECUTION. VERTICAL UNITS
CAN BETTER COORDINATE WITH EACH
OTHER AND OTHER JURISDICTIONS TO
TRACK APPREHEND AND PROSECUTE
OFFENDERS. SPECIALLY TRAINED
PROSECUTION STAFF CAN FOCUS ON
PREVENTING AND OVERCOMING THE
PHYSICAL AND MENTAL MANIPULATION
ON TRAFFICKER TRAFFICKING
VICTIMS. SB 2 36 ENCOURAGES THE
CONTINUED USE OF THIS PROVEN
VERTICAL PROSECUTION MODEL AND
HOLDS OFFENDERS ACCOUNTABLE
WHILE PROVIDING VALUABLE
SERVICES TO THE VICTIMS OF HUMAN
TRAFFICKING. CDVA SUPPORTS SB 2
36 AND URGES THIS COMMITTEE TO
PASS THIS NEEDED, BILL. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT
MR CHAIR IS DAN OWENS ASSISTANCE
CHIEF OF SEX CRIMES AND HUMAN
TRAFFICKING FOR THE SENDING OF
DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
THANK YOU, MR CHAIR AND TO THE
OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE.
I DON'T WANT TO REHASH WHAT MY
COLLEAGUE FROM AMADOR COUNTY HAS
ALREADY ADDRESSED. BUT I WOULD
LIKE TO GIVE YOU SOME
PERSPECTIVE FROM THE VANTAGE
POINT OF A PROSECUTOR WHO IS
DIRECTLY WORKING WITH VICTIMS OF
HUMAN TRAFFICKING. AND IN FACT,
OFTENTIMES I'D BE EVEN
INTERVIEWED IN DEBRIEFED HUMAN
TRAFFICKERS THEMSELVES. UM AND
WE'VE BEEN ABLE IN SAN DIEGO TO
CREATE EXACTLY WHAT IT IS THAT
WE BELIEVE SENATOR JONES
RIGHTEOUSLY WOULD LIKE TO BE
ABLE TO BRING TWO OTHER
COUNTIES. WE DO HAVE A MODEL IN
SAN DIEGO, WHERE WE HAVE A
VERTICAL PROSECUTION UNIT. I AM
ONE OF THOSE, AND I SUPERVISE
MANY OTHERS WITHIN MY DIVISION.
UM. EFFECTIVE NECESSARY MODEL. I
SAY IT'S NECESSARY BECAUSE THE
NEED COMES FROM THE FACT THAT
MANY CHILDREN TEEN BOYS, TEEN
GIRLS AND YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN
ARE IN FACT TRAFFICKED EVERY
SINGLE DAY WITHIN OUR COUNTY,
BUT THROUGHOUT OUR STATE, HUMAN
TRAFFICKING SURVIVORS ARE OFTEN
TRAPPED IN THIS CYCLE OF
PHYSICAL ABUSE, MENTAL AND
EMOTIONAL TORMENT. AND THEY HAVE
A COMPLETE DEPENDENCE ON THEIR
TRAFFICKER THAT LEADS TO
EXPLOITATION OF THEIR BODY AND
DESTRUCTION OF THEIR SPIRIT. ONE
THING THAT I THINK IT'S
IMPORTANT FOR THE COMMITTEE TO
CONSIDER IS THAT A VERTICAL
PROSECUTION MODEL ALLOWS
PROSECUTORS TO BE TRAINED IN
TRAUMA INFORMED CARE PRACTICES.
IT ALLOWS THEM TO BE ABLE TO
UNDERSTAND AND EMPATHIZE AND
SHOW COMPASSION TO THE VICTIMS
OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING SO THAT
THEY CAN BETTER PROSECUTE THE
CASES AND HOLD OFFENDERS
ACCOUNTABLE. OFTENTIMES THE
TRAFFICKING VICTIMS ARE MOVED
THROUGH A CIRCUIT THAT BEGINS IN
NORTHERN CALIFORNIA. THE BARRIER
THE CENTRAL VALUE THE CENTRAL
COAST DOWN THROUGH THE SOUTHLAND
IN SAN DIEGO, AND EVEN EXTENDING
OUT OF STATE TO PHOENIX AND LAS
VEGAS. THE FACT THAT WE CAN
UTILIZE THE VERTICAL PROSECUTION
MODEL WHERE WE CAN WORK IN
TANDEM WITH HUMAN TRAFFICKING
TASK FORCE IS TAKING A REGIONAL
APPROACH AND COLLABORATING WITH
OTHER JURISDICTIONS WHEN OFTEN
THAILAND'S THE VICTIMS
THEMSELVES ARE BEING MOVED.
MOVED ACROSS JURISDICTIONS. IT
ENHANCES THE ABILITY TO ADDRESS
THIS CRISIS. I THINK IT'S
INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO
EMPHASIZE THE FACT THAT THE
VERTICAL PROSECUTION MODEL
ALLOWS US TO WORK WITH VICTIM
ADVOCATES, A NETWORK OF NGOS AND
SHELTERS THAT BETTER ADDRESS THE
NEEDS OF THE VICTIMS THEMSELVES
, EVEN SEPARATE AND APART FROM
THE SUCCESS OF A PROSECUTION. I
BELIEVE SENATOR JONES IS RIGHT.
RIGHTFULLY INCLUDED ALL OF THE
TYPE OF OVERSIGHT THAT WOULD BE
NECESSARY IN TERMS OF THE DATA
REPORTING AND STATISTICAL
INFORMATION THAT WOULD BE
PROVIDED AS PART OF THE BILL,
AND I WANTED TO NOTE WELL,
STATEWIDE. WE DO HAVE THIS
RAMPANT PROBLEM EVEN ON THE SAN
DIEGO SMALL, SMALLER SCALE JUST
WITHIN OUR COUNTY. JUST RECENTLY
. IN FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR, WE
HAD AN OPERATION WHERE THERE
WERE 30 SURVIVORS, EIGHT OF
WHICH WERE MINORS. AND 1 13 YEAR
OLD GIRL WERE RESCUED AND THAT
LED THAT OPERATION WAS
SUCCESSFUL PRECISELY BECAUSE WE
HAVE A VERTICAL PROSECUTION
MODEL IN SAN DIEGO THAT LED THAT
OPERATION. THAT WILL CONCLUDE
THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR ANY
OTHERS IN SUPPORT. CHAIRMAN
DAVID JONES. HOLD ON. MHM DAVID
JONES ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF
SAN MARCOS MAYOR REBECCA JONES
SUPPORTING MR JONES BILL WITH MR
JONES SAWYER OF THE CHAIR, SO AS
FOR ARRIVAL, IT'S A CRAZY FAMILY
UNION. NO RELATION TO ANY OTHERS
AND SUPPORT ANYONE IN
OPPOSITION. OF SOON AND BRING IT
BACK TO COMMITTEE MEMBERS OR
ANYTHING. COMMENTS, QUESTIONS MR
JACKSON. I JUST WANNA THANK YOU
FOR THIS BILL, OBVIOUSLY, UM, AS
SO MANY THINGS ARE GOING ON
AROUND THE WORLD, AND SO MANY
VULNERABLE PEOPLE ARE TRAVELING
ALL ACROSS THE WORLD, OF COURSE
, MANY OF WHICH, UM, EVEN GOING
THROUGH THE INLAND EMPIRE, WHICH
IS A LARGE HOT SPOT WHEN IT
COMES TO TRAFFICKING, THE MORE
THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO BREAK
DOWN BARRIERS AND FIND WAYS TO
SAVE THESE UH, THESE VULNERABLE
PEOPLE, THE BETTER. SO THANK YOU
VERY MUCH FOR THE BILL. I
APPRECIATE THAT. OKAY? SECOND.
BUT THAT YOU MAY CLOSE. THANK
YOU, MR CHAIR MEMBERS. AYE.
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR MY VOTE.
THANK YOU IN THE CHAIR
RECOMMENDING I VOTE. THANK YOU.
CALL THE ROLL. ON SB 2 36 BY
SENATOR JONES. THE MOTION IS DUE
PASSED THE APPROPRIATIONS
COMMITTEE JOHN SAWYER, I ELONIS
ELONIS. AYE, BONTA. BRIAN LACKEY
, LACKEY. I ORTEGA. SANTIAGO
JACKSON JACKSON. AYE. MEASURES
ARE CALLED MR CHAIR. THANK YOU.
NEXT WE HAVE SENATOR ALVARADO
GIL. A B 2 TO 6. ITEM NUMBER.
NINE. RIGHT?
RIGHT? MHM. ALL RIGHT. THANK
YOU, MR CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE
PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE. I JUST
WANT TO START OUT ONE WITH WITH
WITH GRATITUDE AND APPRECIATION.
BECAUSE AS I AS I WALKED OVER
HERE TODAY, UM MY COLLEAGUE
REMINDED ME OF JUST THE IMMENSE
AMOUNT OF DECISIONS THAT YOU
MAKE IN THIS COMMITTEE AND THE
TESTIMONY THAT YOU HEAR AND THE
SITUATIONS AND DECISIONS THAT
YOU COME ACROSS. MANY OF THEM
HAVE TO DO WITH SOME OF THE MOST
HEINOUS ACTS OF HUMANITY. AND
YOU TAKE THAT IN IN THE
DECISIONS THAT YOU MAKE, AND YOU
CARRY THAT SOMETIMES HOME. BRING
THAT AWAY FROM YOUR WORK HERE
AND WE AS PUBLIC SERVANTS. TAKE
FOR GRANTED. SOMETIMES THAT WE
ARE HERE TO DO THE WORK OF THE
PEOPLE. BUT THERE THERE IS AN
EMOTIONAL BURDEN OF THAT.
THERE'S A PHYSICAL BURDEN OF
THAT. AND THIS COMMITTEE,
PARTICULARLY BECAUSE OF THE
NATURE OF THE DECISIONS THAT YOU
MAKE, UM I JUST WANTED TO
ACKNOWLEDGE THAT APPRECIATION
FOR WHAT YOU DO. SO WITH THAT
I'M HERE TO PRESENT SENATE BILL
2 TO 6. THIS WOULD ADD ILLEGAL
FENTANYL TO THE EXISTING LIST OF
CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES THAT ARE
ALREADY ILLEGAL TO POSSESS,
WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY POSSESSING
A LOADED OPERABLE FIREARM. NOW
I'M GOING TO BE USING TERMS
TODAY THAT ARE GOING TO NEED
SOME DEFINITION BECAUSE THE BILL
THAT I'M PUTTING IN FRONT OF YOU
IS LOOKING TO CLEAR UP SOME OF
THE, UH, AMBIGUITY THAT INCLUDE
THAT IS IN LAW. IT'S LOOKING TO
RIGHT A WRONG IF YOU WILL, UM,
IN A PARTICULAR SECTION OF OUR
HEALTH AND SAFETY CODE THAT
CREATES A GRAY AREA AND WE KNOW
WHEN IT COMES TO WE KNOW WHEN IT
COMES TO, UH WHEN IT COMES TO
DANIELLE. SORRY. I APOLOGIZE,
OKAY? SO WE KNOW WHEN IT COMES
TO, UM DETERMINING CONSEQUENCES
FOR ACTIONS THAT SOMETIMES GRAY
AREA DISCRETION ALLOWS US TO
TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION OTHER
ASPECTS OF EXPERIENCES AND LIVES
AND CIRCUMSTANCES. BUT WE ALSO
KNOW THAT GRAY AREAS CAN ALSO
LEAVE IT OPEN SO THAT TWO
PEOPLE. COMMITTING THE SAME
CRIME WITH VARIOUS LIFE
EXPERIENCES CLASSES. RACIST
NECESSITIES MAY HAVE THAT
DIFFERENCE IN SENTENCING. SO FOR
ME, I AM BRINGING FORWARD A BILL
THAT HELPS TO ERASE OR DILUTE
THAT GRAY AREA. TO HELP BRING
SOME SAFETY AND SECURITY TO THIS
SECTION. SO INSTEAD OF USING AN
ALL ENCOMPASSING TERM, LIKE
CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE, WHICH WE
HAVE LAW THAT TELLS US WHAT A
CONSTRUCT CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES
CURRENT LAW NAMES THE POSSESSION
OF CERTAIN DRUGS SUCH AS HEROIN.
COCAINE. AND METHAMPHETAMINE AS
A MISDEMEANOR. IT ALSO MAKES THE
SIMPLE POSSESSION OF THESE DRUGS
ALSO POSSESSING A LOADED
OPERABLE FIREARM, A FELONY. NOW
THE LAW DOESN'T SAY THAT. IT
COULD BE ILLEGAL FIREARM OR AN
ILLEGAL FIREARM. THERE'S SOME
GRAYNESS IN THERE. AND I'M NOT
HERE TO ARGUE ABOUT THE
GREATNESS OF THE FIREARM BECAUSE
I KNOW HERE IN CALIFORNIA. WE
ARE WORKING VERY HARD TO COMBAT
THE VIOLENCE OF FIREARMS, LEGAL
OR ILLEGAL. I'M NOT HERE TO
ARGUE THAT WITH YOU TODAY, WHAT
I AM HERE TO DO IS TO PRESENT
THAT THIS NAMED LIST OF
CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES LEAVES
AMBIGUITY WHEN IT COMES TO HOW
WE PROSECUTE. HOW WE SENTENCE
HOW WE ARREST. AND HOW WE TALK
TO OUR KIDS ABOUT THE
CONSEQUENCES OF HAVING
CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES. AS WE ARE
ALL AWARE THE GRAVE THREAT TO
PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY EXISTS
TODAY IN THE FORM OF THE DRUG
FENTANYL, AND I'M GOING TO SAY
ILLEGAL FENTANYL. IN RECENT
YEARS YEARS, THE RISE OF
FENTANYL USE HAS CAUSED A NUMBER
OF ILLICIT DRUG RELATED
OVERDOSES, POISONINGS AND DEATH
TO SKYROCKET A MONTH EVERY
SECTOR OF OUR COMMUNITY. NOW I
KNOW THAT THIS BOARD THIS
COMMITTEE HAS BEEN WORKING ON
THIS ISSUE FOR YEARS. I AM A
FRESHMAN SENATOR, AND I'M COMING
IN WITH ONE OF THE MOST SIMPLE
APPROACHES THAT I CAN, I CAN
THINK OF TO HELP ADDRESS THE
ROOT CAUSE. I ALSO KNOW THAT
MANY OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE
BROUGHT THROUGH LEGISLATION
AROUND FENTANYL. AND I AM THE
FIRST ONE IN THE SENATE TO BRING
FORWARD A SUBSTANTIVE PROPOSAL A
BILL TO ADDRESS FENTANYL. AND I
TAKE THAT NOT ONLY AS AN HONOR
BUT ALSO HAS A RESPONSIBILITY TO
DO IT RIGHT. MY HOPE IS AS WE GO
THROUGH TODAY'S PRESENTATION,
YOUR QUESTION AND ANSWERS AND
ULTIMATELY, YOUR VOTE. THAT WE
CAN GET UP FROM TODAY. WALK AWAY
AND KNOW THAT WE DID IT RIGHT?
FENTANYL IS NOT LISTED BY NAME
AS BEING AMONG THE CONTROLLED
SUBSTANCES ELIGIBLE FOR FELONY
PROSECUTION UNDER EXISTING LAW,
EVEN THOUGH WE KNOW IT'S 50
TIMES STRONGER THAN HEROIN,
WHICH IS ON THIS LIST. DESPITE
THE FACT THAT MANY DRUGS
CURRENTLY ARE ON THE LIST AND
OFTEN LACED WITH FENTANYL. THIS
DEADLY DRUG HAS NOT BEEN
EXPLICITLY INCLUDED IN THE LIST
OF CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES THAT
ARE ILLEGAL TO CARRY WITH A
FIREARM ARM UNDER THIS HEALTH
AND SAFETY CODE. THIS BILL WOULD
PROVIDE THE CLARITY TO THE
COURTS, BOTH PROSECUTION AND
DEFENSE. TREATING FENTANYL WITH
A GUN DIFFERENTLY THAN HEROIN
WITH A GUN DOES NOT SERVE
JUSTICE. NOR DOES IT MAKE
PRACTICAL SENSE TO GIVE GIVEN
THE POTENCY AND THE DANGER OF
FENTANYL COMPARED TO THE OTHER
DRUGS ON THIS LIST. WHEN I TALK
ABOUT FENTANYL WITH MY KIDS, AND
I TALK ABOUT MY BILL, AND WHY
THIS BILL IS SO IMPORTANT.
CONFUSION AUTOMATICALLY RISES TO
THE TOP. WELL, WHY MOM? WHY IS
THIS DRUG THAT IS SO PREVALENT
IN OUR COMMUNITY. THAT WE HAVE
FRIENDS THAT HAVE DIED FROM THIS
FRIEND'S PARENTS THAT HAVE DIED
FROM THIS KIDS THAT HAVE DIED
FROM THIS. WHY IS IT NOT ON THE
LIST? AND I DON'T REALLY HAVE AN
ANSWER, OTHER THAN TO SAY THAT
WE AS LAWMAKERS HAVE NOT CLEANED
UP THIS PORTION OF THE LAW. AND
SO I CAN CALL IT A CLEAN UP
BILL. I CAN CALL IT A
MODERNIZATION BILL, BUT
ULTIMATELY I WANT TO DO WHAT'S
RIGHT. SENATE BILL 2 26 CRAFTS A
SIMPLE SOLUTION TO A SERIOUS
PROBLEM. I HAVE OFFERED TO AMEND
MY BILL TO REFLECT THE LANGUAGE
OF ASSEMBLY BILL 6 75 MY
COLLEAGUE ESMERALDA SORIA'S
BILL. FROM FRESNO BY COLLEAGUES
FROM FRESNO. EXCUSE ME, WHICH
DID PASS THIS COMMITTEE. AND
WHILE I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE
ARE ISSUES THE UNDERLYING CODE
SECTION I FEAR THAT THE PUBLIC
WILL SEE OUR ENGAGEMENT TODAY IN
QUESTION WHETHER WE ARE
OPERATING WITHIN THE GUIDELINES
OF HYPOCRISY OR PARTY POLITICS.
ULTIMATELY, THIS BILL IS NON
PARTISAN. IT HAS BIPARTISAN
SUPPORT AND BICAMERAL SUPPORT.
SO IF THIS BILL FAILS, I KNOW
YOU LIKE I WILL HAVE HEADLINES
THAT WE NEED TO LIVE WITH. AND
I'M OKAY WITH THAT. AND I WANT
YOU TO KNOW THAT THIS IS NOT ME
VERSUS YOU. THIS IS US. WE ARE
COLLEAGUES. AND IN DOING RIGHT
BY OUR COMMUNITY IS BY LOOKING
AT LAWS THAT DON'T MAKE SENSE
LAWS THAT HAVE AMBIGUITY,
GREATNESS THAT ALLOW FOR
INJUSTICES IN PROSECUTION AND
ARREST. I WILL SAY THAT THIS
BILL PASSED OUT OF THE SENATE
UNANIMOUSLY. THERE WERE
QUESTIONS, HOWEVER. THE QUESTION
THAT I RECEIVED WAS FROM ONE OF
MY COLLEAGUES WHO I VALUE VERY
MUCH. MY COLLEAGUE FROM LOS
ANGELES, AND SHE ASKED ME,
SENATOR. TELL ME HOW THIS
INTERACTS WITH THE GOOD
SAMARITAN LAW. OKAY? SO LOOKING
AT CALIFORNIA'S 911 GOOD
SAMARITAN LAW. CURRENTLY THE
WHAT THE WAY THE LIES WRITTEN.
IT DOES NOT DELINEATE OUTLINED
SPECIFY CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES BY
NAME, IT SAYS CONTROLLED
SUBSTANCES. IT DOES, HOWEVER.
REFERENCE. THAT THIS LAW HEALTH
AND SAFETY CODE 11-3 76.5.
SUBDIVISION, A. PROVIDES THAT NO
OTHER IMMUNITIES AND PROTECTIONS
FROM ARREST OR PROSECUTION FOR
VIOLATIONS OF THE LAW ARE
INTENDED OR MAY BE INFERRED.
NOW, WHY IS THIS IMPORTANT? SO
IN THE CASE IN CONNECTICUT,
WHERE. THERE WERE TWO
INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE ENGAGING
IN THE USE OF NARCOTICS. AND ONE
OF THE INDIVIDUALS, UM.
UNFORTUNATELY AH OVERDOSED. SO
HER COMPANION BEING A GOOD
SAMARITAN AND SOMEONE THAT CARED
ABOUT HER. I TOOK HER TO THE
EMERGENCY ROOM. CHECK HER TO THE
EMERGENCY ROOM TO GET LIFE
SAVING CARE. AT THE SAME TIME.
HE CARRIED WITH HIM A BACKPACK.
AND IN THAT BACKPACK HE HAD
CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES FOR
DISTRIBUTION. AND HE ALSO HAD AN
ILLEGAL FIREARM. SO UPON
INTERACTING WITH LAW
ENFORCEMENT. ADMITTING ARGUABLY
THAT HE HAD FENTANYL ADMITTING
ARGUABLY THAT HE KNEW HE WAS IN
POSSESSION OF ILLEGAL FIREARMS,
FIREARM. HE WAS THEN PROSECUTED.
HE WAS PROSECUTED UNDER THIS LAW
IN CONNECTICUT. THAT'S VERY
SIMILAR, BUT NOT EXACT TWO HERE
IN CALIFORNIA, SO I UNDERSTAND
THE CONCERNS. WE DO NOT WANT TO
PUT MORE PEOPLE BEHIND BARS. WE
DO NOT WANT TO CREATE MORE
AMBIGUITY. BUT AT THE SAME TIME
WE DO NOT WANT TO HAVE CRACKS IN
A SYSTEM THAT DOES NOT
ACKNOWLEDGE THE MODERN DEATH AND
DISASTER AND DEVASTATION OF
FENTANYL. MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE. I RESPECTFULLY SIT IN
FRONT OF YOU TODAY TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS YOU HAVE AND
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR I VOTE
. UM WITH ME TODAY IN SUPPORT IS
MY DISTRICT ATTORNEY FROM AMADOR
COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY TODD
RUBY. THANK YOU GUYS. CENTER
EVER ARGUED FOR SPONSORING THIS?
THANK YOU, MR CHAIR AND
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. MY NAME IS
TODD RE BEYOND THE DISTRICT
ATTORNEY OF AMADOR AND SPEAKING
BEHALF OF SYRIA IN SUPPORT OF SB
2 26. IT'S IMPORTANT. EVERYBODY
KNOWS THAT THE LANDSCAPE OF
ILLEGAL DRUG SALES AND I'VE BEEN
THE D A SINCE 1998. HAS CHANGED
DRAMATICALLY WITHIN THE PAST
THREE YEARS WITH THE ARRIVAL OF
FENTANYL TO CALIFORNIA. ONE PILL
CAN KILL IS NOT JUST A MARKETING
EFFORT TO GET THE WORD OUT TO
OUR YOUTH ABOUT THIS DEADLY DRUG
. IT IS AN EVERY DAY REALITY AND
WE'VE SEEN THE DEVASTATION
EVERYWHERE EVERY CORNER OF
CALIFORNIA, INCLUDING RURAL
AMATEUR COUNTY. FENNEL IS THE
NUMBER ONE KILLER OF ALL 18 TO
45 YEAR OLDS IN THE U. S
SURPASSING CAR ACCIDENTS, GUN
VIOLENCE AND SUICIDES IN 2022.
THE D. A LAB TESTED ILLICIT
PILLS THAT RECEIVED ON THE
STREETS DURING THAT YEAR
PURPORTING TO BE OXYCONTIN.
XANAX, ADDERALL, PERCOCET. AND
OTHER PHARMACEUTICALS. THE
PEOPLE BUYING THEM HAD NO IDEA
WHAT WAS REALLY IN THEM. AND
THEY DISCOVERED THE D A. DID
THAT OVER. 60% OF THESE FAKE
PILLS CONTAINED A LETHAL DOSE OF
FENTANYL. AS I SAID, NO CORNER
OF CALIFORNIA IS IMMUNE. VANDALS
AND EQUAL OPPORTUNITY KILLER. SB
2 26 INTRODUCED BY SENATOR MARIA
VARADA, GIL. IT'S A COMMON SENSE
APPROACH TO THE TIMES THAT WE
ARE IN BY ADDING FENTANYL, WHICH
WOULD HAVE BEEN ADDED HAD IT
BEEN A PROBLEM AT THE TIME THAT
WE ADDED COCAINE AND HEROIN AND
METHAMPHETAMINE TO THE LIST OF
CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES FOR WHICH
SIMULTANEOUS POSSESSION OF A
LOADED AND OPERABLE FIREARM IS
ELIGIBLE FOR FELONY CONVICTION.
WE WOULD HAVE ADDED IT THEN. IT
MAKES NO SENSE NOT TO ADD IT
NOW, PARTICULARLY BECAUSE
FENTANYL KILLS MORE THAN ALL OF
THOSE OTHER DRUGS THAT ARE
ALREADY IN THIS EXISTING SCHEME
WITHIN THE HEALTH AND SAFETY
CODE, MORE THAN ALL OF THEM
COMBINED. THERE IS NO RATIONAL
JUSTIFICATION FOR FENTANYL NOT
TO BE ADDED TO THIS LIST. SIMPLY
PUT NÓ AND GUNS DO NOT BELONG
TOGETHER. CDVA URGES THIS
COMMITTEE TO PLEASE PASS THIS
BILL. I KNOW THIS IS A VERY
CONTROVERSIAL ISSUE FOR IN STATE
OF CALIFORNIA RIGHT NOW. THIS IS
JUST A LITTLE CHIP AT A BIGGER
PROBLEM. JUST A LITTLE CHIP.
ADDING TO AN EXISTING SENTENCING
SCHEME THAT WILL HELP US IN OUR
EFFORTS. TO HOLD PEOPLE
ACCOUNTABLE. FOR WHAT THEY'RE
DOING IN OUR COMMUNITIES. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU DO ANY
OTHERS IN SUPPORT? I WILL SAY,
UH, EXCUSE ME, MR CHAIR. IT'S
BEEN A LONG DAY. NO FOR ALL OF
US, UM, AT THIS POINT, MANY OF
OUR SUPPORTERS WERE NOT ABLE TO
STAY, SO I JUST WANNA
ACKNOWLEDGE THEM. NO, NO, PLEASE
DON'T CALL HERE FOR THE SAME
REASON. STILL HERE, JONATHAN
FELDMAN ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA POLICE CHIEFS
ASSOCIATION, STRONG SUPPORT. IF
YOU HAVE THE NAMES OF THOSE YOU
CAN NAME THEM RIGHT NOW, IF YOU
WANT, IF YOU IF YOU HAVE IT
AVAILABLE, ARE THEY ON THE MAYBE
ALREADY BE ON THE RECORD AS A
LONG LIST. THERE IS A LONG LIST.
I DON'T HAVE THEM WITH ME, BUT I
BELIEVE IT'S IN THE RECORD. DO
HAVE IT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO
MUCH. AND THEN ANY WITNESSES AND
OPPOSITION. YES. THANK YOU. GOOD
EVENING COMMITTEE. UM GLENN BECK
IS ON BEHALF OF ELLA BAKER
CENTER FOR HUMAN RIGHTS. MARGO
GEORGE FOR CALIFORNIA PUBLIC
DEFENDERS ASSOCIATION SENSOR
APOLOGY, SHE WOULD HAVE ALSO
SPOKEN IN OPPOSITION. SO IT'S
JUST ME FOR 2.5 MINUTES. I'LL BE
BRIEF. THIS IS A BAD BILL
BECAUSE IT BUILT ON A BAD LAW.
AND THAT'S WHY IT SHOULDN'T PASS
TODAY. UNDER CURRENT CALIFORNIA
LAW. POSSESSION OF A CONTROLLED
SUBSTANCE IS A MISDEMEANOR. AND
IN MOST INSTANCES A PERSON CAN
LAWFULLY OWN A FIREARM. BUT WE
HAVE AN ABSURD LAW THAT SAYS, IF
YOU COMBINE AN INDIVIDUAL SINGLE
DOSE OF A CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE
AND ONE FIREARM, EVEN ILLEGAL
ONE YOU NOW A FELONY PUNISHABLE
BY UP TO FOUR YEARS. THAT'S
WHAT'S ON THE BOOKS. MAKES NO
SENSE WHATSOEVER THAT ONE PILL
IN THE MEDICINE CABINET. PLUS
ONE GUN IN THE CLOSET EQUALS
FOUR YEARS IN PRISON. IT JUST
DOESN'T THIS ABSURD LAW WAS PUT
ON THE BOOKS. IN 1989, SIGNED BY
GOVERNOR GEORGE DEUKMEJIAN AND
LAST UPDATED IN 1996, SIGNED BY
PETE WILSON. IT SHOULD NOT BE
RATIFIED AND EXPANDED BY THE
CLASS OF 2023. LAWMAKERS NOW
KNOW BETTER. THE CURRENT LAW AND
THIS BILL CONTAINS NO WAIT
GUIDELINE. SO IT'S ONE PILL PLUS
ONE GUN EQUALS FOUR YEARS. THE
CURRENT LAW, AND THIS BILL DOES
NOT PROVIDE THE GUN BE AN
ILLEGAL FIREARM. OR THAT IT BE
BRANDISHED OR IN THE PERSON'S
HAND OR IN ANY WAY
INAPPROPRIATELY USED. ONE PILL
PLUS ONE GUN IN THE HOUSE EQUALS
FOUR YEARS IN PRISON. BASED ON
DECADES OF RESEARCH. WE KNOW
THAT BAD LAWS LIKE THIS THAT ARE
ON OUR BOOKS ARE BAD FOR
FAMILIES. THEY HURT FAMILIES
WHEN YOU TAKE A MOM OR DAD OUT
OF THE FAMILY AND SEND THEM AWAY
FOR FOUR YEARS AND THEN REQUIRE
THE FAMILY TO SUPPORT THEM IN
PRISON. THAT'S BAD FOR THE
FAMILY. AND BECAUSE THESE TYPES
OF LAWS ARE CONCENTRATED ON
BLACK AND LATINO AND LOW INCOME
COMMUNITIES, IT'S ALSO BAD FOR
COMMUNITIES WHEN YOU EXTRACT
PARENTS, HUMAN BEINGS FROM
COMMUNITIES IN GREAT NUMBERS AND
INCARCERATE THEM. YOU ROBBED THE
COMMUNITIES OF WEALTH. HEALTH
AND STABILITY. COMPARE THAT WITH
THE RESEARCH THAT THIS LAW
THAT'S BEEN ON THE BOOKS FOR 25
YEARS HAS IT DONE ANY GOOD HAS
IT REDUCED GUN VIOLENCE OR THE
AVAILABILITY OF DRUGS? NO THERE
IS NO SUCH RESEARCH BALANCES
THINGS AND PLEASE VOTE NOW.
THANK YOU TO ANYONE ELSE IN THE
OPPOSITION. ALICIA BENAVIDEZ
LEWIS ON BEHALF OF DRUG POLICY
ALLIANCE AND STRONG OPPOSITION.
Dð COONEY ON BEHALF OF A C L U
CALIFORNIA ACTION IN OPPOSITION.
THANK YOU. WE'LL NOW BRING IT
BACK TO COMMITTEE FOR ANY
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. YEAH.
FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE
SENATOR FOR BRINGING THIS BILL.
FOR US. I THINK WE DO NEED TO
BE. UH, WHEN DID YOU NEED TO
MODERNIZE OUR ARE DRUGS ON THERE
, OBVIOUSLY, AS WAS POINTED OUT
BY THE D A THAT, YES, THIS PANEL
HAD BEEN A DRUG. AT THAT TIME,
IT WOULD HAVE BEEN ADDED TO. IT
JUST SAYS, UH, IF WE DO
HOPEFULLY ADD THIS BILL ON AND
WE PUT FENTANYL ON THERE. I
THINK ALREADY KNOWN THE CHARITY
KNOWS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE
ANOTHER DRUG. THAT SHOULD ALSO
BE ADDED AS WELL. IT'S ALREADY
COMING UP SO I WOULD BE NICE TO
GET AHEAD OF THE CURVE ON THAT,
OR MAYBE HAVE SOME KIND OF
WORDING THAT JUST SAYS IF IT
FALLS UNDER SOME PARAMETER THAT
IT AUTOMATICALLY BECOMES ILLEGAL
OR BECOMES PART OF THE LAW, AND
WE DON'T HAVE TO KEEP DOING THIS
EVERY YEAR. IN MY EXPERIENCE OR
20 YEARS IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, I
FIND THAT WE'RE CONSTANTLY
CHASING THE DRUG CHANGES EVERY
EVERY YEAR OR TWO, AND WE HAVE
TO UPDATE OUR BOOKS AS IT GOES,
AND I SEE THAT BEING NOTHING
THAN THIS RIGHT NOW. UM AS FAR
AS THE COMMENTS MADE AS FAR AS
HAVING ONE PILL AND ONE GUN AND
POSSESSION. AND. BEING A
TERRIBLE FOR THE FAMILY. I DO
AGREE WITH THE OPPOSITION ON
THAT. BUT AT THE SAME TIME THAT
WAS A CHOICE THAT THAT PERSON
MADE. I DIDN'T ASK THAT PERSON
TO CARRY A GUN. I DIDN'T ASK
THAT PERSON TO CARRY THE DRUGS
THAT THEY WERE USING. BUT THAT'S
A CHOICE THEY MADE AND I DON'T
KNOW WHY WE SHOULD FEEL THAT
IT'S OUR FAULT FOR WANTING TO
HOLD SOMEBODY ACCOUNTABLE FOR
THAT. SENATOR QUESTION I HAVE AS
FAR AS THE POSSESSION. OF A
FIREARM. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU
KNOW MAYBE THE D A WOULD LIKE TO
STEP IN ON THIS, UH, TO JUST
TOUCH ON THAT, AS FAR AS IT MADE
IT SEEM LIKE FROM THE OPPOSITION
THAT YOU COULD JUST HAVE A GUN
SOMEWHERE IN THE HOUSE OR
SOMEWHERE CLOSE TO THEM AND
STILL BE CHARGED WITH THIS JUST
BY SIMPLY HAVING A FIREARM, SO
THAT IS NOT THE CASE. SO UM
HEALTH AND SAFETY CODE 11-3
70.1. SPEAKS DIRECTLY TO THIS.
IT MAKES IT A CRIME TO POSSESS A
CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE WHILE
HAVING A LOADED AND OPERABLE
FIREARM. SO. I MEAN, I'VE TAKEN
GUN SAFETY COURSES AND
UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN HAVING A LOADED FIREARM
AND OPERABLE FIREARMS UNLOADED
HAVING IT LOCKED. THAT'S THE
RESPONSIBLE ASPECT OF GUN
OWNERSHIP. SO WHERE THIS WHERE
THIS LAW IS NOT AMBIGUOUS IS IN
THIS PART. THIS PORTION IS THE
POSSESSION OF A OF A LOADED
FIREARM, OPERABLE FIREARM. SO,
UM, I WOULD SAY THAT. AS WE MOVE
FORWARD AS CALIFORNIANS TO
REDUCE AND ULTIMATELY ELIMINATE
GUN VIOLENCE. THIS BILL HELPS TO
CLARIFY AND CODIFY THE WILL OF
THE PEOPLE. I THINK IT TAKES
COURAGE. TO COME UP AFTER 25
YEARS OF LEGISLATORS BEFORE US
WHO PERHAPS DID NOT HAVE THE
UNDERSTANDING OR THE WILL TO
MAYBE STAND UP ALONE. TO ADDRESS
THIS BAD BILL BECAUSE I AGREE
WITH THE OPPOSITION. THIS IS A
BAD BILL. THIS IS A BILL THAT
FOR 25 YEARS HAS ALLOWED
AMBIGUITY IN THE REST IN
SENTENCING. WE'VE BEEN TRUSTED.
WE ARE INTERESTED TO FIX BAD
BILLS. THAT'S WHY I'M HERE IN
FRONT OF YOU. WE'RE INTERESTED
TO CREATE LAWS. THAT BY
INCREASING AMBIGUITY ALSO CREATE
GROSS DISPARITIES BETWEEN OUR
BLACK AND BROWN COMMUNITIES.
FAMILIES WHO HAVE ALREADY
SUFFERED FROM GENERATIONAL HARM.
MY OPPOSITION SPOKE ABOUT THE
WAR ON DRUGS. I AM NOT A SOLDIER
IN THE WAR ON DRUGS. I'M A
MOTHER WHO FOR THE PAST 25
YEARS, RAISED THREE KIDS AND HAD
TO EXPLAIN TO THEM. ABOUT ALL
THE DIFFERENT DRUGS AND
NARCOTICS AND THREATS IN THEIR
SCHOOLS IN THEIR COMMUNITY TO
JUST TO KEEP THEM SAFE. AND I'LL
TELL YOU I WASN'T TALKING ABOUT
FENTANYL. TO MY KIDS. THIS IS
SOMETHING NEW, EVEN FOR ME. BUT
IT'S NOT NEW TO MY KIDS RIGHT
NOW. AND MY GRANDKIDS. THAT'S
WHO. IT'S NOT NEW TO. SO FOR ME
, THIS IS A BILL ABOUT LEVELING
UP HOW WE TALK ABOUT LETHAL
NARCOTICS. AND WHEN WE TALK
ABOUT LETHAL NARCOTICS WE HAVE
TO TALK ABOUT FENTANYL. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU, MR JACKSON. I
WANT TO THANK THE CENTER FOR
SENATOR WHO I IMMENSELY RESPECT.
UM FOR BRINGING UP THIS BILL
BECAUSE I THINK THESE
DISCUSSIONS ARE NECESSARY AS A
SOCIETY. AND I ALSO BELIEVE THAT
BECAUSE FENTANYL AND HOW IT'S
BEING USED RIGHT NOW IS SO
COMPLICATED. THAT WE HAVE TO
CONTINUE TO HAVE THESE
DISCUSSIONS AND TRY TO WEED
THROUGH HOW THE BEST UM, ADDRESS
IT. UH UM. I'M ONLY A PINCH
HITTER IN THIS COMMITTEE, AND SO
WHEN SO WHEN, UM. I BELIEVE THE
SIMILAR BILL AS YOU TALKED ABOUT
FROM ERROR. OUR COLLEAGUE FROM
FRESNO BROUGHT IT UP. IT DIDN'T
MAKE IT TO OUR FLOOR. UM AND.
BUT THE BILLS THAT THIS
COMMITTEE ACTUALLY DID A DID GO
THROUGH AND SOME OF THEM
ACTUALLY MADE IT OUT OF
COMMITTEE. I BELIEVE IT CAUSED
ME TO EVEN LOOK AT YOU KNOW? HOW
DO WE DEAL WITH THIS OFFENDING A
CRISIS THAT WE HAVE? AH, BUT YET
MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT UM,
MAKING SOME OF THE MISTAKES OF
THE PAST THAT MANY OF OUR
COMMUNITIES AS YOU KNOW. HAVE
BEEN DEVASTATED BY. AND WHEN I
WENT THROUGH THE RESEARCH AND
WHEN I SAY RESEARCH, BUT SOME
PEOPLE JUST THINK THAT RESEARCH
IS A BLOG OR RESEARCH IS JUST
SOME ARTICLE SOMEWHERE RESEARCH
THINGS THAT IS EVEN JUST THINGS
THAT OUR COMMITTEE STAFF
PRODUCED. BUT THE RESEARCH THAT
I LOOKED AT REALLY THE PERIOD
REVIEW HISTORICAL RESEARCH THAT
WE BEGIN TO LOOK AT. SO THAT WE
CAN ACTUALLY SEE. AND THE
QUESTION I WAS TRYING TO ANSWER
IS IF WE'RE GONNA GO AFTER
SOMEBODY WHO SHOULD WE BE GOING
AFTER RIGHT? AND WHEN I LOOKED
AT THE RESEARCH, AND IT MADE IT
CLEAR, UH TO ME A FEW THINGS,
UH, NUMBER ONE. IF YOU ARE GOING
. TO UH, UM. FIND OUT WHO TO
CREATE THE STRONGEST PENALTIES
AGAINST. THAT IT IS REALLY THE,
UM MANUFACTURERS OF THESE AND
THE AND THE IMPORTERS OF THESE
FENTANYL. AND I BELIEVE WE LET A
ACTUALLY WE, UH THIS COMMITTEE
LIT THROUGH, UM, A BILL THAT
ACTUALLY, UM, FOCUSED ON THAT
POPULATION. UM, AND IT ACTUALLY
MADE IT OUT OF THE HOUSE, AND
IT'S ACTUALLY ON THE SENATE SIDE
NOW, AND THAT WAS THE ONE BY, UH
UH, THE VALLAPUDUA. THAT MADE IT
OUT. I EVEN VOTED FOR THAT BILL.
BECAUSE THE RESEARCH WAS CLEAR
NOW, SOME OF EVEN SOME OF MY
COLLEAGUES WHO ARE MORE ON THE
PROGRESSIVE SIDE WHEN THEY
DIDN'T EVEN WHEN EVEN DO THAT,
RIGHT? BUT I'M TRYING TO MAKE
SURE THAT I'M GUIDED BY THE
DATA, AND THAT SAYS OKAY, THAT'S
THE RIGHT POPULATION. THE
CONCERNS THAT I HAVE IN TERMS OF
THIS BILL IS JUST A FEW THINGS
NUMBER ONE. THERE'S SO MANY
SUBSTANCES NOW THAT CAN CONTAIN
FENTANYL. BUT THE PERSON WHO HAS
A MAY NOT EVEN KNOW THAT THEY
HAVE IT. RIGHT? AND SO THAT
THAT'S A THAT'S SOMETHING THAT
I'M CONCERNED, CONCERNED ABOUT.
NUMBER TWO UH UM. IF SOMEONE HAS
FENTANYL. NUMBER ONE. THEY MIGHT
NOT KNOW IT. BUT THEN EVEN IF
THEY DO KNOW IT. WILL INCREASING
PENALTIES ACTUALLY SOLVED THE
PROBLEM. RIGHT? UM AND THE
RESEARCH JUST SHOWS IF I'M
SOMEONE, AND I'M SELLING THIS
YOU'RE GONNA GET ME. BUT THE
NEXT DAY OR EVEN MAYBE THE SAME
DAY THERE'S GOING TO BE SOMEONE
WHO REPLACES ME. BECAUSE IT'S SO
LOW WHEN IN THE STREAM THAT IT
ACTUALLY IS NOT SOLVING THE
PROBLEM AT ALL. SO I THINK THE
QUESTION BECOMES, IF WE WANT TO
SAVE PEOPLE. AH AND I'M ALSO
INTERESTED IN WHAT THE
GOVERNOR'S DOING IN TERMS OF
TRYING TO DO THINGS WITH THE
COAST GUARD AND WITH THE RESERVE
RIGHT. LIKE HOW HOW ARE WE? HOW
ARE WE DEALING WITH THE IMPORT
OF IT? THOSE WHO ARE
MANUFACTURING IT. THE EVIL
PEOPLE WHO ARE PUTTING IT IN
OTHER DRUGS THAT ARE. SUPPOSED
TO BE LESS HARMFUL, BUT NOW
THEY'RE KILLERS. AH THOSE ARE
THE THINGS ARE THE CONCERNS THAT
I THAT I HAVE, AND SO
UNFORTUNATELY I'M NOT GOING TO
BE ABLE TO VOTE FOR THIS, BUT
I'M GOING TO STAY OFF OF THIS
BILL. BUT I THINK OVERALL, I
THINK WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO
HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS. I
THINK WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO
PROPOSE BILLS. AND I THANK YOU
FOR HAVING THE COURAGE AND
FORTITUDE TO BE ABLE TO MAKING
SURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO FORCE
THESE DISCUSSIONS. BECAUSE I
HAVE NO THERE'S NO DOUBT IN MY
MIND. WE HAVE TO FORCE OURSELVES
TO HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS AND WE
HAVE TO CONTINUE TO FIND WAYS TO
SEE HOW WE CAN DO THINGS TO GET
THIS RIGHT. BECAUSE I BELIEVE
ALSO THAT, UM. ALL THE BILLS
THAT WERE INTRODUCED LAST YEAR
SHOULD NOT BE THE LAST. I THINK
WE NEED TO HAVE MORE SO THAT WE
CAN CONTINUE TO HAVE THESE HARD
DISCUSSIONS, BUT I REALLY
APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS THAT
YOU'RE MAKING. THANK YOU, MR
CHAIR, PAGA. UM SO I HAVE A
QUESTION. UM DO YOU HAVE NUMBERS
ON WHETHER OR NOT YOUR BILL
WOULD BE EFFECTIVE IN PREVENTING
OVERDOSE DEATHS FROM FENTANYL.
YEAH. MY BILL IS NOT INTENDED TO
REDUCE THE DISTRIBUTION OF
FENTANYL OR TO PREVENT OVERDOSES
. MY BILL IS SIMPLY INTENDED TO
LEVEL UP THE WAY THAT WE TALK
ABOUT CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES,
LETHAL NARCOTICS. SO UM, I AM
BRINGING AS SIMPLE AS POSSIBLE A
CLEANUP UM, SOLUTION. TO A LAW
WHICH I AGREE. A LOT OF THAT
ALREADY EXISTS. THAT'S ABOUT
IT'S A BAD LAW THAT CREATES
CREVICES FOR OUR YOUNG PEOPLE TO
FALL THROUGH. I BELIEVE IN
TREATMENT. I BELIEVE IN
REHABILITATION. I BELIEVE THAT
PEOPLE WHO ARE ADDICTED TO DRUGS
NEED US AS A SOCIETY TO HAVE
SOLUTIONS TO HELP THEM, RIGHT.
THE WAY THAT I'M EQUATING THIS.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S TEGA IS AN
ALGORITHM OR I SHOULD SAY IN
EQUATION. ALCOHOL PLUS GETTING
BEHIND THE WHEEL EQUALS DEATH,
SOMETIMES, RIGHT? WE KNOW WE CAN
TALK TO OUR KIDS ALCOHOL PLUS
GETTING BEHIND THE WHEEL. CAN
TURN OUT VERY DEADLY. WHAT I'M
DOING WITH THIS BILL IS SIMPLY
THAT FENTANYL, PLUS A LOADED
OPERABLE FIREARM. EQUALS
SOMETHING DEADLY. SOMETHING NOT
GOOD, SO THAT'S THAT'S THE
INTENT OF MY BILL. UM I WOULD BE
THRILLED AND HAPPY TO HAVE A
SOLUTION THAT HELPS TO DETOUR.
THE USE THE POSSESSION THE SALE
OF FENTANYL. THAT'S NOT THIS
BILL. THIS IS THE BILL THAT
ALLOWS US TO TALK TO TALK ABOUT
IT IN A MODERN WAY, SO THAT WHEN
WE TALK ABOUT CONTROLLED
SUBSTANCE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT
ILLICIT NARCOTICS IN CONJUNCTION
WITH A LOADED OPERABLE FIREARM,
WE CAN TALK TO OUR YOUNG PEOPLE
ABOUT THE DEADLY NATURE. SO
THERE IS NO DATA. THAT. SAYS
THAT THIS BILL OR ANY OTHER BILL
WOULD PREVENT FENTANYL
OVERDOSES. YOU STARTED YOUR
OPENING STATEMENT WITH A PUBLIC
NARRATIVE THAT'S OUT THERE. THIS
COMMITTEE. WE'VE BEEN HEARING
MANY OF THESE BILLS FOR THE LAST
SIX MONTHS NOW, AS
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S JACKSON
MENTIONED AH! WE'VE YOU KNOW, I
VOTED FOR THE BILL RELATED TO
ADDRESSING. THAI LEVEL FENTANYL
DEALERS AND HOLDING THEM
ACCOUNTABLE. WE WORKED WITH
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S SORIA, WHO HAD
A SIMILAR BILL TO YOURS. I ALSO
WORKED WITH HER AND TRYING TO
GET THIS BILL TO A PLACE WHERE
WE COULD POSSIBLY SUPPORTED.
UNFORTUNATELY, IT DIDN'T GET
THERE. YOUR BILL IS EXACTLY THE
SAME THING. I'M OFFERING SUPPORT
AND CHINA FIGURE OUT A WAY TO
MOVE FORWARD. UNFORTUNATELY,
IT'S NOT HERE TODAY. WHAT I KEEP
HEARING IS YOU KNOW THE WAR ON
DRUGS AND MOD ARISING OUR
LANGUAGE AND. THIS IS A SIMPLE
FIX. UNFORTUNATELY NOTHING IS
SIMPLE WHEN IT COMES TO THE
FENTANYL CRISIS. I HAVE MY OWN
BILL. ADDRESSING THE PUBLIC
HEALTH CRISIS THAT WE'RE IN. AND
I HOPE YOU SUPPORTED AS WELL
BECAUSE IT'S A PUBLIC HEALTH
CRISIS. WE ARE SEEING THE
NUMBERS OF PEOPLE WHO ARE DYING
EVERY DAY BECAUSE OF FENTANYL
OVERDOSES. AND AS A BODY. I
PROMISE YOU THAT WE ARE TRYING
TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO SAVE
LIVES. BUT AT THE SAME TIME
WE'RE NOT INTERESTED. AND GOING
BACKWARDS. AND ASSEMBLY MEMBER
JOHN SAWYER, WHO'S BEEN HERE
MUCH LONGER THAN I HAVE. I'M
ALSO A FRESHMAN. UM CAN TALK
ABOUT THE UNINTENDED
CONSEQUENCES OF TAKING. AN
ISSUE. AND TAKING, MAKING A
SIMPLE FIX. AND ENDING UP. WITH
. THOUSANDS OF HUNDREDS OF.
PEOPLE OF COLOR INCARCERATING IN
OUR SYSTEM, AND WE WILL NOT, WE
WILL NOT GO BACKWARDS. AND SO
WE'RE TRYING TO TAKE THAT
BALANCED APPROACH, WHICH IS WHY
I'M OFFERING, UM TO HAVE FURTHER
DISCUSSION WITH YOU AND TRYING
TO GET THIS BILL TO A PLACE WE
CAN WE CAN SUPPORT THANK YOU
SUNDAY MEMBER AND ANYMORE
PERMISSION TO ADDRESS. TRADITION
TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE COMMENTS.
OKAY I WILL ADDRESS YOU CAN
ANSWER THE QUESTIONS IN YOUR
CLOTHES, SO I TOO AM A DATA
PERSON. I BELIEVE IN DATA. AS
YOU MENTIONED. THE FENTANYL
CRISIS IS MULTILAYERED. IT'S SO
COMPLEX AND I'M I'M NOT GOING TO
COME HERE AND PRETEND THAT I
HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS BECAUSE I
DON'T AND NOR CAN I DO IT ALONE.
WE HAVE TO BE IN THIS TOGETHER
IN ORDER TO ADDRESS THIS RIGHT.
UM SO COMING HERE WITHOUT THAT
DATA IS SO THAT I CAN BE FOCUSED
ON WHAT THIS BILL IS ABOUT, AND
TO BRING IT AS AS AS SIMPLE AS
POSSIBLE. AND I APPRECIATE YOUR
ACKNOWLEDGEMENT THAT IT IS NOT A
SIMPLE FIX. YOU'RE RIGHT. IT'S
NOT A SIMPLE FIX. THIS IS MY
INTENT TO BRING SOMETHING TO
THIS COMMITTEE THAT THIS
COMMITTEE ALREADY SUPPORTED.
ALREADY VOTED ON AND TO GIVE ME
THAT OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE TO
MOVE IT FORWARD. YOUR COLLEAGUES
. BILL UM ENDED UP IN THE
SUSPENSE FILE IN APPROPRIATIONS
. WHAT IS WHAT I UNDERSTAND, SO
THERE'S STILL OPPORTUNITIES EVEN
TO GET THROUGH THIS COMMITTEE
FOR US TO CONTINUE TO WORK
TOGETHER, AND I WOULD LOVE TO
WORK WITH YOU ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
DEGA TO GET IT TO THE RIGHT
PLACE RIGHT BEFORE IT HITS THE
FLOOR BEFORE IT GETS IN FRONT OF
THE GOVERNOR'S DESK BECAUSE I
BELIEVE IN DOING RIGHT BY
CALIFORNIANS, AND I KNOW YOU DO
TO, UM AND IN ORDER FOR BILLS TO
BE GREAT, NOT JUST GOOD, BUT
GREAT. WE? THEY HAVE TO BE
BIPARTISAN, BICAMERAL. WE HAVE
TO HAVE DIFFERENT EXPERIENCES
BECAUSE I'VE NEVER WALKED IN
YOUR SHOES AND SO I CAN'T SEE
THE WORLD THROUGH YOUR
EXPERIENCES OR THROUGH
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S JACKSON'S
EXPERIENCE OR THROUGH OUR CHAIR
JOHN SAWYER. BUT I LEARN AND WE
LEARN TOGETHER BY COLLABORATION
BY CREATING THINGS THAT 25 YEARS
OF THOSE SOLDIERS ON THE WAR ON
DRUGS, WHICH AGAIN I SAID I AM
NOT. WE ARE NOT DID NOT HAVE THE
COURAGE TO BRING FORWARD A
SOLUTION TO A BILL THAT WE KNOW
IS BAD FOR COMMUNITIES OF COLOR.
SO. I KINDLY ASK YOU ALL TO
CONSIDER MY PLEA. UH MOVING
FORWARD WITH MY VOTE WOULD ALLOW
ME TO CONTINUE TO PARTNER WITH
YOU AGAIN. THIS IS THE ONLY BILL
COMING OUT OF THE SENATE THAT
ADDRESSES FENTANYL. I KNOW THIS
IS A COMPLEX ISSUE, BUT THIS IS
A START. THIS GIVES US A STEP
FORWARD IN PARTNERSHIP AND
COLLABORATION. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. OKAY SO WE YOU HAVE AN
OFFER. UM AND I WILL JOIN WITH
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S ORTEGA. UM AND
HELPING TO HELPING YOU TRY TO
FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THIS BILL.
UM I'LL SAY SPECIFICALLY, UH
THROUGH APPROPRIATIONS. UH UM,
BECAUSE FIRST YOU GOTTA GET OUT
OF THIS COMMITTEE. THAT'S RIGHT.
THAT'S RIGHT. AND YOU HAVE TO
ADDRESS. WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN
DOWN THE ROAD. THAT'S RIGHT THIS
AGAIN AND LET IT OUT AND THEN
HAVE IT DIE AGAIN, AND
APPROPRIATIONS JUST IN A LOT OF
WAYS. IT'S A WASTE OF TIME AND
EFFORT. SO AND I DON'T KNOW WHY.
I MEAN, HONESTLY, I HAVE
ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA WHY.
APPROPRIATIONS UM. HAD ISSUES
WITH THE BILL AND HELD IT IN
APPROPRIATIONS. IT FELT LIKE YOU
HAVE NOT HAD A CONVERSATION WITH
UH, WITH OUR APPROPRIATIONS
CHAIR, THE TO FIND OUT WHAT WHAT
HAPPENED FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD.
SO I CAN'T VOTE FOR IT TODAY. IF
IT DOESN'T MAKE IT OUT OF
COMMITTEE, I WOULD ASK YOU TO
ASK FOR RECONSIDERATION SO YOU
CAN HAVE A CHANCE TO WORK WITH.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S ORTEGA AND
MAYBE EVEN TAKES MR JACKSON'S
ADVICE AND. AND JUST FIGURE OUT
WHAT HAPPENED IN APPROPRIATIONS
, BUT ALSO, UM. ONE OF THE
THINGS HAVE BEEN REALLY
DIFFICULT FOR. THE MAJORITY OF
THE MEMBERS ON THIS COMMITTEE.
UM HAS BEEN AN INABILITY FOR
PEOPLE TO BRING, UM DATA. THAT
SHOWS THAT HARSHER PENALTIES
WORK. YEAH ALL WE'VE EVER ASKED
FROM DAY ONE. THE OTHER SIDE AND
BRINGING DATA AFTER DATA AFTER
DATA THAT SHOWS THAT IT DOESN'T
WORK. AND SO UNTIL WE GET THAT
IT BECOMES REALLY DIFFICULT TO
GO AGAINST. LOGIC. UM AND I KNOW
THIS IS A VERY, VERY EMOTIONAL
SUBJECT. UM, BUT. THE DOOR IS
STILL OPEN. IF IT DOESN'T MAKE
IT THAT YOU SHOULD ASK FOR
RECONSIDERATION. UM, BUT I WOULD
SUGGEST THAT WE. IF WE'RE GOING
TO WORK TOGETHER, WE START
WORKING TOGETHER TO FIND
EVIDENCE. EVIDENCE BASED
INFORMATION. SO THAT WE CAN COME
UP WITH THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE
WAY OF MAKING SURE THAT THIS
THIS THIS THIS COURAGE THAT'S ON
OUR COMMUNITY RIGHT NOW THAT UM
LIKE PROBABLY DIDN'T HAVE A
CHANCE TO HEAR THE FENTANYL
HEARING THAT WE HAD HERE IN THE
ASSEMBLY. A LOT OF WHAT YOU'RE
HEARING IS BASED ON THE DATA
THAT CAME OUT OF THAT. WHAT
EXPERTS BOTH LAW ENFORCEMENT.
CRIMINAL JUSTICE FOLK. EVERYBODY
HAD. AT A WAY OF HANDLING THIS,
AND IT'S A PUBLIC HEALTH. AND
THEN REALLY WAS ABOUT PUBLIC
HEALTH MORE SO THAN ANYTHING
ELSE. UNTIL, UM. WELL WE'LL SEE
WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE VOTE, AND
THEN WE CAN GO FROM THERE, OKAY?
THANK YOU FOR YOUR
CONSIDERATION. HONESTY. 2 36 BY
SENATOR ALVARADO GILL. THE
MOTION IS DUE PASS TO THE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE. JOAN
SAWYER, SO YOU'RE NOT VOTING
COLONIES? I BONTA BRIAN. BLACKIE
BLACKIE. I ORTEGA OR TAKEN NOT
VOTING. SANTIAGO. SANTIAGO NOT
VOTING. JACKSON JACKSON, NOT
VOTING. MEASURE FAILS SO IF THE
MEASURE WERE TO FAIL FOR
RECONSIDERATION, PLEASE, I WOULD
ASK FOR NO OBJECTION. BUT WE
WILL GRANT RECONSIDERATION.
THANK YOU, CHAIR. THANK YOU
MEMBERS. UH, ITEM NUMBER. RUBIO
I DIDN'T SEE YOU, SENATOR
SENATOR RUBIO S B 603. YOU
FINALLY MADE IT. YOU'VE BEEN
HERE ALL DAY 23 SB 603 RUBIO
CHILD ADVOCACY CENTERS
RECORDINGS. SO I'M GONNA TRY
EXPEDITED. I KNOW THAT YOU'VE
BEEN HERE FOR A LONG TIME. AND,
UH, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE MY
WITNESSES ARE HERE. SO THANK YOU
SO MUCH. WELL, FIRST I WANT TO
SAY THANK YOU. COMMITTEE ALWAYS
WORKS REALLY HARD WITH EVERYONE,
INCLUDING MY OFFICE TO MAKE SURE
THAT WE GET TO A GOOD PLACE.
THIS BILL IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO
ME. I WORK A LOT ON, YOU KNOW,
TRYING TO PROTECT THE MOST
VULNERABLE CHILDREN IN
PARTICULAR THOSE HAVE BEEN
ABUSED. AND TODAY I'M PRESENTING
SB SIX OR THREE, WHICH IS A
CHILD ABUSE PROTECTION ACT AND
IT REALLY WHAT IT DOES IT WANTS
TO PROTECT CHILDREN. BY
STRENGTHENING THE CHILD FORENSIC
INTERVIEWS, RECORDING LAWS RIGHT
NOW, A LOT OF TIMES WHEN WE
INTERVIEWED THESE CHILDREN THAT
EITHER BEEN PHYSICALLY OR
SEXUALLY ABUSED. SOMETIMES THE
RECORDINGS BECOME PUBLIC AND
LATER ON IN LIFE. THEY FIND
THESE RECORDINGS SORT OF BEEN
PASSED AROUND IN ORDER TO
PROTECT THE CHILDREN TO ENSURE
THAT THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO THAT
PRIVACY. THIS BILL INTENDS TO
ENSURE THAT THE ONLY WAY PEOPLE
CAN GET THE RECORDINGS IS BY A
PROTECTIVE ORDER. CALIFORNIA
DOES NOT. HAVE CLEARLY DEFINED
LEGAL LIMITS FOR RELEASING THE
RECORDINGS THAT CHILD UM,
VICTIMS HAVE SO ONCE AGAIN, WE
JUST WANT VICTIMS TO HAVE THE
RIGHT TO PRIVACY. ESPECIALLY
CHILDREN HAVE BEEN INTERVIEWED
FOR WHATEVER IT IS THAT THEY MAY
HAVE BEEN INTERVIEWED FOR EITHER
OF THEM THEMSELVES WERE SEXUALLY
ABUSED OR ASSAULTED, OR THE
WITNESS SOMEONE BEING SEXUALLY
ABUSED OR ASSAULTED. AND ONCE
AGAIN, THIS JUST PUTS PROTECTION
TO ENSURE THAT ONLY THROUGH A
PROTECTIVE ORDER. THOSE VERY
SENSITIVE SENSITIVE RECORDINGS
AND INTERVIEWS. UM, ARE PRIVATE
UNLESS YOU KNOW SOMEONE'S
REPRESENTING THEM, AND THEY NEED
TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE RECORDING.
SO WITH ME TODAY, I HAVE TWO
WITNESSES, UM, THAT ARE HERE TO
TESTIFY. DEPUTY DISTRICT
ATTORNEY TAMAR TOKER ON BEHALF
OF LOS ANGELES DISTRICT
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, AND AARON
HARPER, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF
THE CALIFORNIA CHILDREN ADVOCACY
CENTER. IF I MAY TURN IT OVER TO
THEM. SURE, THANK YOU. GOOD
EVENING. GOOD EVENING. GOOD
EVENING, MR CHAIR AND MEMBERS
TOMORROW TALK OUT ON BEHALF OF
THE COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S
OFFICE. WE ARE THE PROUD
COSPONSORS OF THIS IMPORTANT
LEGISLATION. I'VE BEEN A DEPUTY
DISTRICT ATTORNEY FOR OVER 18
YEARS, AND PRIOR TO THAT I WAS A
CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY. I
SPENT MOST OF MY CAREER IN THE
COURTROOM, AND THROUGHOUT THE
YEARS I'VE INTERVIEWED MANY
CHILDREN. IN PREPARATION FOR
TRIAL. THESE CHILDREN ALL
SUFFERED FROM TREMENDOUS AMOUNTS
OF TRAUMA BECAUSE THEY WERE
EITHER WITNESSES TO A VIOLENT
CRIME LIKE A MURDER OR DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE OR BECAUSE THEY
THEMSELVES HAD BEEN VICTIMS OF
SEXUAL OR PHYSICAL ABUSE. THE L.
A COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S
OFFICE CURRENTLY ASSIGNED
SEVERAL, UH DEPUTY D A S THAT
OUR SEX CRIMES PROSECUTORS TO A
CHILDREN'S ADVOCACY CENTER.
WHERE THEY WORK AS PART OF
MULTIDISCIPLINARY TEAMS THAT
INCLUDE LAW ENFORCEMENT, CHILD
PROTECTIVE SERVICES AND TRAINED
FORENSIC INTERVIEWERS. CHILDREN
WHO HAVE BEEN SEXUALLY ASSAULTED
COME INTO THE CENTER AND THEY
SIT DOWN FOR INTERVIEWS, AND
THEY RECOUNT THE MOST INTIMATE
DETAILS OF THEIR ABUSE. AND THEY
DO SO IN A SAFE AND SUPPORTIVE
ENVIRONMENT. BUT EVEN THEN IT'S
STILL UM YOU KNOW, TRAUMATIC FOR
KIDS TO RELIVE THEIR
EXPERIENCES. THESE INTERVIEWS
ARE RECORDED AND WHEN KIDS ARE
TOLD THAT THE INTERVIEWS ARE
RECORDED, THAT ALSO IS DIFFICULT
FOR THE CHILDREN AND PARENTS ASK
WHO ELSE IS GOING TO SEE MY
CHILD? TALK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED
TO THEM, AND SOMETIMES PARENTS
ARE HESITANT TO ALLOW THEIR
CHILDREN TO SIT DOWN FOR
INTERVIEWS, AND THAT COULD BE A
BARRIER FOR THE INVESTIGATION
AND PROSECUTING, YOU KNOW OF
THESE CRIMES AND FOR HOLDING THE
PERPETRATORS ACCOUNTABLE. SO.
IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE BE ABLE
TO ASSURE THEM THAT YOU KNOW THE
CHILDREN'S INTERVIEWS ARE GOING
TO BE PROTECTED AND THAT THEY'RE
ONLY GOING TO BE USED AS
NECESSARY. CURRENTLY WHEN THE
CUSTODIAN OF A RECORDING
PROVIDES A COPY OF THE RECORDING
EITHER THROUGH, YOU KNOW,
BECAUSE SOMEBODY ISSUED A
SUBPOENA AND ATTORNEY ISSUED A
SUBPOENA OR AS A PART OF
DISCOVERY. THERE IS NO GUARANTEE
THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE COPIED
, REDISTRIBUTED AND ULTIMATELY
END UP IN THE WRONG HANDS, AND
THAT'S BECAUSE THERE IS NO
PROTECTIVE ORDER REQUIREMENT
UNDER EXISTING LAW. AND IN FACT,
IN L, A COUNTY WE'VE HAD
INCIDENTS WHERE DEFENDANTS HAVE
COPIED. YOU KNOW THESE
RECORDINGS. THE RECORDINGS HAVE
ENDED UP ON SOCIAL MEDIA, AND
THEY'VE EVEN BEEN USED TO HARASS
FAMILY MEMBERS, AND THAT KIND OF
INCIDENT SHOULD NEVER HAPPEN.
BUT IT HAS HAPPENED AND IT
CAUSES MORE TRAUMA AND MORE
VICTIMIZATION TO THESE KIDS, AND
IT ALSO VIOLATES THEIR PRIVACY
RIGHTS. THIS BILL IS NOT GOING
TO CHANGE ANY EXISTING DISCOVERY
PRACTICES OR RULES IN CRIMINAL
OR CIVIL PROCEEDINGS. IT'S ALSO
NOT GOING TO PREVENT ACCESS TO
THESE RECORDINGS TO ATTORNEYS
AND FILED CIVIL OR CRIMINAL
CASES, AND IT'S NOT GOING TO
PREVENT ACCESS TO INDIVIDUALS
WHO REPRESENT THEMSELVES, ROPERS
AND CRIMINAL COURT. THEY'RE
GOING TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS IT.
FOR THE CASE. WHAT THE BILL WILL
DO, HOWEVER, IS IT'S GOING TO
CLOSE LOOPHOLES THAT EXIST RIGHT
NOW BY CREATING GUIDELINES AND
BEST PRACTICES FOR THE ENTIRE
STATE SO THAT WE CAN PREVENT THE
RE VICTIMIZATION OF THESE KIDS
WHO HAVE ALREADY BEEN VICTIMIZED
BY THE CRIME ITSELF. AND TO THAT
END ON ON BEHALF OF THE L. A
COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S
OFFICE, I WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS
OUR GRATITUDE TO SENATOR RUBIO
FOR HER DEDICATION TO PROTECTING
SURVIVORS OF SEXUAL AND PHYSICAL
ABUSE, AND I RESPECT HOPEFULLY
ASKED THIS COMMITTEE FOR YOUR I
VOTE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MR
CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE. MY NAME IS AARON
HARPER. I'M THE EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR OF CHILDREN'S ADVOCACY
CENTERS FOR CALIFORNIA AND
CALICO, THE LOCAL CHILDREN'S
ADVOCACY CENTER, OR C. A C.
SERVING ALAMEDA COUNTY. BEFORE
THAT, I WAS A FORMER FORENSIC
INTERVIEWER AT CALICO AND I'VE
INTERVIEWED OVER 600 ABUSED
CHILDREN. CHILDREN'S ADVOCACY
CENTERS OF CALIFORNIA REPRESENTS
THE 52 CH CS ACROSS CALIFORNIA
AND ALL 52 OF OUR MEMBERS
UNANIMOUSLY AND ENTHUSIASTICALLY
RECOMMEND THAT THIS BILL BE
PASSED. AMONG THE MANY SERVICES
THAT CCS PROVIDE FOR CHILDREN.
WE CONDUCT FORENSIC INTERVIEWS
OF ABUSED CHILDREN AT THE BEHEST
OF LAW ENFORCEMENT, CPS AND
PROSECUTION SO THAT THEY KNOW
WHAT ELSE TO INVESTIGATE AND
WHAT CRIMES TO CHARGE. MOST
FORENSIC INTERVIEWS INVOLVED
CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE ALLEGATIONS.
A FORENSIC INTERVIEW IS NOT
THERAPY. IT IS DESIGNED TO
OBTAIN VERBAL EVIDENCE. THUS WE
ASK INCREDIBLY DETAILED
QUESTIONS. THE CHILD'S FACE AND
VOICE IS RECORDED WHILE THE
ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT BODY
POSITIONS, HAND POSITIONS HOW
THINGS FELT SOUNDED, SMELLED
TASTED AND MORE. CHILDREN BEING
ASKED TO SHARE SUCH A CRUCIAL,
EXCRUCIATINGLY SENSITIVE AND
GRAPHIC INFORMATION DESERVE TO
HAVE THEIR PRIVACY AND
CONFIDENTIALITY PROTECTED.
UNFORTUNATELY OUR MEMBERS HAVE
TOLD US OF MANY INSTANCES,
INSTANCES THAT DUE TO THE LACK
OF STATUTORY REGULATION WHERE
SUSPECTS HAVE GOTTEN RECORDINGS
OF THE INTERVIEWS AND HARASSED
THE CHILDREN, WHERE THESE
INTERVIEWS HAVE BEEN SHARED WITH
LOCAL NEWS MEDIA AND EVEN
NATIONAL NEWS, MEDIA AND OTHER
INSTANCES WHERE THEY HAVE BEEN
UPLOADED TO INSTAGRAM AND
FACEBOOK LIVE HAVE HAD
DEVASTATING CONSEQUENCES TO THE
CHILDREN. THE UNITED STATES
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, THE
NATIONAL CHILDREN'S ADVOCACY
CENTER AND THE NATIONAL
CHILDREN'S ALLIANCE, WHICH
CREDIT CC'S ACROSS THE COUNTRY
STATE THAT MAINTAINING THE
CONFIDENTIALITY OF INTERVIEW
RECORDINGS IS A KEY BEST
PRACTICE TO SERVING ABUSED
CHILDREN. SP 603 WOULD ALLOW
CALIFORNIA TO MEET THAT BEST
PRACTICE. SO WE URGE YOU TO PASS
THIS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU ANY
OTHER WITNESSES AND SUPPORT.
BRANDON UP ON BEHALF OF THE LOS
ANGELES COUNTY SHERIFF AND
SUPPORT THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
THEN THEY'LL WITNESSES AND
SUPPORT ARE THEY ANY WITNESSES
AND OPPOSITION? HE WITNESSES,
THE OPPOSITION SEEN NONE BRING
IT BACK TO COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
COMMENTS, QUESTIONS MR ALLEN.
SENATOR. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING
THIS BILL. MANY OF YOU MAY NOT
KNOW THIS. I WAS A CRIME AGAINST
CHILDREN'S DETECTIVE AND
FORENSIC INTERVIEWER. AND I HAD
MY VERY SHERIFF THOSE INTERVIEWS
AS WELL. SO THANK YOU FOR COMING
HERE, AND I SHARE THAT WITH YOU
AS WELL. MY QUESTION IS. HOW DO
WE PLAN ON? BECAUSE I WAS GONNA
ASK ABOUT THE OPINION,
SUBPOENAING. AH UH, THE VIDEO
AND THE DEFENSE. YES I KNOW.
THEY GET AHOLD OF IT THAT YOU
BROUGHT UP IS THERE. IS THERE
ANY WAY THAT WE CAN MAYBE, UM,
GET IT TO WHERE THEY HAVE TO
COME VIEW THE VIDEO WITH US, AND
THEY DON'T GET A COPY OF IT. IS
THERE A WAY THAT YOU GUYS? MAYBE
WE TALKED ABOUT THAT BECAUSE
IT'S THEY'RE GOING TO FIND A
WAY. I'M OBVIOUSLY SUPPORTING
THIS BILL, BUT I WANT TO TRY AND
FIND AS MANY WAYS AS I CAN FOR
YOU GUYS TO ADDRESS THIS. OH
WHAT THE BILL WOULD DO IS
BASICALLY IN A FILED CASE, A
SUBPOENA WOULD GET ISSUED A
COURT ORDER SO YOU GET A COURT
ORDER SUBPOENA GETS ISSUE TO THE
CUSTODIAN. SO IF THAT'S THE
CHILDREN'S ADVOCACY CENTER THAT
HAS A COPY OF IT, AND THEN THERE
WOULD BE A PROTECTIVE ORDER
ATTACHED, AND THE PROTECTIVE
ORDER ATTACHED WOULD HAVE ALL OF
THESE GUIDELINES AS TO WHAT CAN
AND CANNOT BE DONE WITH THAT. SO
YOU KNOW IF YOU CAN'T MAKE
COPIES OF IT AND IN DISTRIBUTED
AND WHATNOT, SO ALL OF THAT
WOULD BE IN PLACE BEFORE IT IS
PROVIDED TO THE PERSON WHO
ISSUED THE SUBPOENA, AND THEN
ONCE THE CASE IS CONCLUDED,
UNDER THE PROVISIONS OF THE BILL
, ALL COPIES WOULD HAVE TO BE
RETURNED. UM SO YOU KNOW, YOU
KNOW, DEFENSE ATTORNEYS WOULD
HAVE NO DEFENSE ATTORNEYS WOULD
GET IT IN COURT AS PART OF
DISCOVERY, BUT YOU KNOW, AND FOR
IN A CRIMINAL CASE, UM, THE
UNDER THE PROVISIONS OF THE BILL
ONCE ALL OF THE APPEALS AND THE
WRITS OF HABEAS CORPUS HAVE BEEN
EXHAUSTED, THEN COPIES ONCE
AGAIN WOULD HAVE TO BE RETURNED.
SO WE'VE BUILT IN PROVISIONS FOR
THAT, SO THAT THESE COPIES
AREN'T JUST OUT THERE. IN THE
HANDS OF PEOPLE YOU KNOW, AFTER
THEY'VE BEEN PROVIDED, BUT ONCE
THE CASES ARE DONE, AND THEY'VE
USED IT APPROPRIATELY, ASSUMING
IT EVEN BECOMES NECESSARY TO USE
, UM THESE RECORDINGS BECAUSE,
OFTENTIMES IN A CASE I MEAN IT'S
GOING TO BE HERE SAY THERE HAS
TO BE A GOOD REASON FOR THE
RECORDING ITSELF TO COME IN
EITHER AS IMPEACHMENT. OR MAYBE
THERE WAS SOMETHING WRONG WITH
THE INTERVIEW. WHATEVER THE
ISSUE IS, UM, THERE'S NO
GUARANTEE THAT IT'S EVER GOING
TO BECOME RELEVANT OR OR
ADMITTED INTO THE ACTUAL CASE
ITSELF, BUT CERTAINLY PEOPLE ARE
GOING TO HAVE THEIR RIGHT TO
DISCOVERY AND VIEWING AND ALL OF
THAT PROTECTED BUT AT THE SAME
TIME WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
YOU KNOW THE KIDS ARE PROTECTED.
UM AND THEIR STATEMENTS ARE
PROTECTED AND THAT THEIR PRIVACY
IS PROTECTED. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. MS ORTEGA. I JUST WANT TO
THANK THE AUTHOR AND ALAMEDA
COUNTY I REPRESENT THAT LED ME
TO COUNTIES. I'M GLAD TO SEE WE
ALREADY DOING THIS. IT'S A MODEL
FOR THE STATE AND MOVED THE
BILL. YEAH, BUT. THAT YOU MAY
CLOSE. THANK YOU. I KNOW YOU'VE
BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH. SO I
REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR RIVAL.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU HAVE BEEN
HERE WITH YOU IN HERE WITH TIME
TO GO HOME. CHEERS RECOMMENDED.
I CALL THE ROLL. SB 603 BY
SENATOR RUBIO. THE MOTION IS DUE
PASS JOHN SAWYER I ELONIS BONTA.
BRIAN. BLACKIE BLACKIE. I ORTEGA
ORTEGA I SANTIAGO SANTIAGO I
JACKSON JACKSON. I MEASURE
PASSES. THANK YOU. AND THEN. SB
753 CAPPIELLO. ITEM NUMBER 25.
SO IT'S LATE, BUT I'M IN
JUDICIAL OVER IN THE SENATE WILL
PROBABLY BE HERE TILL MIDNIGHT
35 BILLS ON THE CALENDAR, SO I
APPRECIATE YOUR ATTENTION TO
DETAIL AND HOW MUCH WORK YOU ALL
HAVE DONE TODAY. SO GOOD
AFTERNOON, SAID GOOD MORNING
WHEN I STARTED OFF GOOD
AFTERNOON. GOOD EVENING, MR
CHAIR AND MEMBERS THANK YOU FOR
THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT SB 7
53. CALIFORNIA'S ARID CLIMATE
MEANS THAT EVERY YEAR REGARDLESS
OF THE YEARS, RAIN OUTPUT, OUR
WATER RESOURCES ARE STRETCHED
THEN. CLIMATE CHANGE IS
EXACERBATING CALIFORNIA'S DRY
SEASON, THE STATE IS
EXPERIENCING MORE FREQUENT AND
LONGER PERIODS OF SEVERE,
EXTREME AND EXCEPTIONAL DROUGHT
, ACCORDING TO A RECENT CALL
MATTERS. REPORT EXAMPLES OF
WATER THEFT BY ILLICIT CANNABIS
GROWS IN THE STATE ARE PROLIFIC
. IN 2020, FOR EXAMPLE, THE
BROOKINGS INSTITUTE ESTIMATED
THAT APPROXIMATELY 9.5 MILLION
GALLONS OF WATER WAS DIVERTED BY
ILLEGAL CANNABIS ACTIVITIES.
THAT'S DRINKING WATERS FOR OUR
COMMUNITIES, WATER FOR
ENVIRONMENTAL HABITAT THAT
SUPPORTS FISH AND WILDLIFE AND
WATER TO HELP COMBAT FOREST
FIRES. CURRENT LAW DOES NOT
PROVIDE A DETERRENCE OR
RESOURCES TO TRACK AND STOP THE
ILLICIT ACTIVITIES OF A
MULTIBILLION DOLLAR CRIMINAL
INDUSTRY. THE STATE WATER
RESOURCES CONTROL BOARD HAS THE
AUTHORITY TO FIND ILLEGAL
CANNABIS OPERATIONS TO $1000 A
DAY FOR STEALING WATER, BUT FOR
THIS LEVEL OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY
, FINE SIMPLY DOESN'T DO THE
JOB. IN 2018. STATE OFFICIALS
CHARGED OVER $1 MILLION IN FINES
TO OVER 1000 WATER RIGHTS
VIOLATORS YET THE PROBLEM
CONTINUES, AND WE'RE NOT TALKING
ABOUT BACKYARD MARIJUANA GROWS.
THESE ARE THE BIG GROWS. THAT
HAPPENED IN RURAL, MOSTLY IN
RURAL ISOLATED COMMUNITIES. UM,
AND THE CHALLENGES UM, THAT THE
CULTIVATION OF CANNABIS IN THESE
REMOTE FORESTED OR DESERT
LANDSCAPES UM, USE PESTICIDES
AND DEADLY HERBICIDES ON THE
SOIL AND THE CANNABIS PLANTS AND
THERE AND NEARBY NATIVE
VEGETATION DIRECTLY IMPACTING
WILDLIFE, FISH AND NEARBY WATER
RESOURCE IS MY ORIGINAL APPROACH
ON THIS BILL WAS TO PROTECT ONE
OF OUR MOST VALUABLE RESOURCES
WATER AND TO PUNISH THE BEHAVIOR
OF ILLICIT CANNABIS CULTIVATORS
THAT REFUSED TO GET LICENSED AND
ARE DESTROYING AND CONTAMINATING
OUR RELIABLE NATURAL RESOURCES.
IN RURAL REMOTE REGIONS AND
UNDERMINE THE WORK WE'VE DONE TO
PROMOTE THE LEGAL SAFE AND
REGULATED PRODUCTION OF CANNABIS
PRODUCTS, AND PART OF THE
CHALLENGE IS WHEN YOU HAVE THESE
ILLEGAL GROWS, THE CHEMICALS
THAT THEY'RE PUTTING ON THE
PLANT REALLY IMPACT THE HEALTH
AND SAFETY OF PEOPLE AS WELL. IT
WASN'T THE PURPOSE OF THE BILL,
BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS
THAT WE REGULATE CANNABIS
PRODUCTS SO CLOSELY AS WE WANT
TO MAKE SURE THEY DON'T HAVE ANY
HERBICIDE OR PESTICIDE ON THEM.
UM IT'S PARTICULARLY IF YOU'RE
GOING TO BE, UM, SMOKING THE
WEED. IT'S REALLY DANGEROUS FOR
THE INDIVIDUAL. THAT'S THAT'S
DOING THAT. I REGRET THAT THE
BILL WOULD WILL BE SIGNIFICANTLY
AMENDED A DAY, BUT I DO
APPRECIATE WHAT THE CHAIR IS
TRYING TO DO TO ALLOW TO KEEP
THE CONVERSATION ON THIS ISSUE
OF LIFE, SO I'M GOING TO ACCEPT
THE COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS. AND
WITH THESE AMENDMENTS, UM THE
BILL NO LONGER EXPANDS THE
PENALTY PUNISHABLE AS A
MISDEMEANOR OR FELONY. RATHER IT
CLARIFIES PUBLIC RESOURCES
INCLUDE SURFACE OR OR
GROUNDWATER. UM AND, UM, DUE TO
THE LAST MINUTE CHANGES. THERE
REALLY WASN'T AN OPPORTUNITY OF
WITNESSES TO TESTIFY AND
SUPPORT. SO, UM JUST ME. THAT'S
ENOUGH. THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR
THIS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I
APPRECIATE IT. AND I THANK YOU
AND RESPECTFULLY, ASPREY. I VOTE
OKAY? HAS BEEN MOVING AFFECTED
THEIR WAY AHEAD, WITNESSES AND
SUPPORT ARE THERE ANY WITNESSES
AND SUPPORT NO. OKAY UM
WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION.
GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS, UH,
DYLAN BRENNER. CRIST WAS
BASICALLY NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
INTRODUCING, OKAY? THAT'S RIGHT.
OKAY. I WANT YOU TO TALK INTO
THE MIC SO YEAH, ALRIGHT. AND
YOU CAN HAVE HIM COME IN. OKAY
AFTER I INTRODUCED HIM. SORRY,
SENATOR. UH MY NAME IS DYLAN
RENNER, CHRIS WITH A C L U OF
NORTHERN CALIFORNIA. UM WE HAVE
REGIONALLY OPPOSED THIS BILL,
BUT WITH THE AMENDMENTS WERE
DROPPING OUR OPPOSITION BUT MR
MOUA CAME DOWN FROM CISCO TODAY
TO TALK ABOUT THE EFFECTS OF
TARGETING WATER. ON HIS
COMMUNITY IN THE NAME OF
CANNABIS PROHIBITIONS. THAT WAS
A FOUR HOUR DRIVE, SO WE WOULD
LIKE TO HAVE HIM TALK ABOUT ALL
THAT. UM AND HE WILL BE USING AN
INTERPRETER, IF THAT IS OKAY.
HE'S GOT TO DO IT IN LESS THAN
FIVE MINUTES. I UNDERSTAND,
OKAY? NO WAY.
HEY, WHO HAS ACTION MORE? TOO
LONG THAT COMMUNITY TO HOW
SISKIYOU COUNTY TOUR. WHEN
YOU'RE TO LOWER TOWN. CONTAINED
. NORMALLY GOT WHAT TÌM,
VIETNAM. YEAH. YOU'RE A SECRET
WAR, NATURAL THREATENED BLOCK.
TOO LATE, TOM
.
KATE ATOMIC ATTACK A. YOU'RE NOT
. WILL HOLD BLUE. DOWN AND GOT.
GO DOWN. TAKE OUT 30 SHARE.
LAURIE TIE, NOT A WHOLE CITY,
YOU COUNTY. WE TALKED ABOUT.
WHAT YOU ARE WHERE YOU PAY. TOP
LORD. JOHN. JOINING THAT, YOU
KNOW.
WELL. JUST ONE TRANSLATORS
SHOULD COME IN, OR I TOLD HIM
HOW. PACO DE TURNED OFF. CUTS
AND ONE DAY SHE. PAYMENT. YOUR
NEIGHBOR KNOW GENO GARLOW FIGHT
LOW CHALLAH TODAY PUT A PATIENT
. TAKA ETERNITY TOUCH ON THE
BALL INTO TWO. ONE MORE DAY NOW.
GODHEAD PERMITTED COUNTY GARLOW.
BèC. TALKING WITH OUT OF THE
ALLERGIC TYPE APPLICATION COULD
. GO TO COLLEGE, A. NHîNG HEIDI
COUNTY COUNTY TAYMOR PERMIT ON
NIKOLA. TOM. MONKEY TODAY SHE MÀ
GOOGLE CHARTER. WHAT BLUE COUNTY
LEGIT. SONG. UP. TO E. THE
COUNTY. DANTE ONE MONK PUMPED
LONELY AT THE. AT THE NOT SHARE.
PETROL AW, YOU PAID HOW YOU
CHANGE YOU TO TEAR DOWN OUR
HOUSEHOLD. DIET. YOUR LINK TO
YOUR TODAY SHE TO PUT EACH
ENDING, THOUGH GALLON. YOUTUBE
MORE PERMIT LOTTIE COUNTY LAW
PUT OUT THERE. CHINA TO ALLOW.
UH COUNTY SHERIFF LU█T. TODAY
UH, TAKE WHAT THEN, WHEN TANYA
ACTUALLY APART. COUNTY HAS THE
ALLERGIC. SANTO FEDERAL COURT.
TWO FEDERAL CHARGE HE HAD THE
ACCOUNTING ONLY NORMA JIN JIANG
JIANG LÀ. THEY ARE. YOU DIDN'T
TOUCH TO. OOH MOSTLY DAY AMONG
YOUR MOTHER GOT TO LAW EULOGY
ENDING. LORD DÂN ALONG. FIVE
MINUTES ARE UP. NO. SHONA SB
SUCH. HIÂU NOT TALLER. WHAT I
LOVE LOOK HOW THE.
BIÂU. FIVE MINUTES ARE UP. OKAY
OKAY. THANK YOU. I'LL TRY TO BE
QUICK. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS
JOHN JOHN MOORE. I AM AN ELDER
OF THE MORE LAND AND FROM THE
MON COMMUNITIES AS YOU COUNTY I
CAME TO THE U. S AS A REFUGEE IN
1969 1986 FROM LAOS AS A
TEENAGER, I AND MANY OTHER
MEMBERS OF THE MY MOM COMMUNITY
FOR WITH THE U. S IN THE SECRET
WAR IN LAOS. WE CAME TO THE U.
S. AFTER THE US PULLED OUT FROM
THE WAR. WE WERE THEN LEFT,
HUNTED AND PERSECUTED FOR
HELPING THE AMERICAN AND THAT IS
WHY WE IMMIGRATED TO THE UNITED
STATES. MY WIFE AND I RETIRED IN
SISKIYOU AFTER 20 YEARS. YEARS
OF WORKING BECAUSE IT REMINDED
ME OF THE PLACE WHERE I GREW UP
IN ALLOWS THE WEATHER IN THE
MOUNTAINS. WE LOVE THE LAND, BUT
WE HAVE FACED HATRED AND
DISCRIMINATION FROM PEOPLE WHO
HAS VIEWED US AS OUTSIDERS IN
2016 2017. I AM MANY OTHER YOUNG
PEOPLE HAD MOVED TO SISKIYOU
COUNTY, THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT
BANNED MARIJUANA GROWING THERE.
SHERIFF BLAMED THE PEOPLE IN THE
MONT COMMUNITY, SAYING THAT WE
WERE BAD PEOPLE. WE WERE A GANG
AND THAT WE WERE A DRUG CARTEL.
THEN IN 2020, 2021, THE COUNTY
PASS AND WATER ORDINANCE
TARGETING THEM ON COMMUNITY, ONE
MADE IT ILLEGAL TO USE ANY
UNDERGROUND WATER FOR CANNABIS
CULTIVATION. ANOTHER MAJOR AND
MISDEMEANOR TO CARRY MORE THAN
100 GALLONS OF WATER WITHOUT A
PERMIT ON CERTAIN COUNTY ROADS.
THIS LAW APPLIED, ONLY TWO ROADS
AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOODS WERE
AMONG PEOPLE LIVE, INCLUDING THE
ROAD OUTSIDE MY HOUSE. MANY
PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY DON'T
HAVE WELLS WHEN I NEEDED ABOUT I
WENT TO THE LOCAL PERMITTING
OFFICE. THEY TOLD ME THAT THEY
WEREN'T ACCEPTING APPLICATION.
SO I ASKED MY WHITE NEIGHBOR TO
GO BACK AND GET IT FOR ME. HE
DID LATER THAT DAY, AND HE GOT
THE PERMIT. UNFORTUNATELY MANY
OF MY NEIGHBORS ARE NOT AS LUCKY
AS I AM. WITHOUT WELLS. THEY
RELY ON WATER TRUCKS FOR WATER
FOR THEIR ANIMALS, COOKING AND
FOR BATHING. THE SHERIFF CLAIMS
THAT ALL THESE WATER THAT ARE
BEING USED GOES TO CANNABIS.
AFTER THE COUNTY ORDINANCES WERE
PASSED, THE SHERIFF BEGAN
PULLING AMONG PEOPLE DRIVING
WATER TRUCKS OUTSIDE MY HOUSE
AND SEIZING THEM. NO ONE COULD
GET WATER. CHICKENS GOATS AND
DOGS ARE DYING IN AROUND HALF OF
THEM ON COMMUNITY LEFT THE
FOLLOWING MONTH. OUR COMMUNITY
FILED A LAWSUIT AGAINST THE
COUNTY IN SEPTEMBER 2021 OF
FEDERAL COURT AND JOINED SEVERAL
OF THE LAWS FINDING THAT THE
COUNTY'S ORDINANCE HAD LEFT THE
JUSTICE SYSTEM ON COMMUNITY
WITHOUT WATER TO DRINK FOOD TO
GROW TO RAISE ANIMALS AND DEBATE
. AMONG OTHER BASIC NEEDS. THE
COUNTY HAS DONE ALL OF THIS
BECAUSE THEY COME THE WATER IS
BEING WASTED ON MARIJUANA. THEY
TREAT US LIKE INVADERS AND LIKE
FOREIGNERS, SO I URGE THAT YOU
GUYS, PLEASE DON'T PASS. UM THAT
IF YOU GUYS PASSED THE SB 753,
THE COUNTY WILL USE IT TO
TERRORIZE MY COMMUNITY. EVEN
FURTHER, THEY WILL GO AFTER
PEOPLE WITH WALLS WHO WILL
PROVIDE WATER TO THE NEIGHBORS
LIKE MYSELF, CLAIMING THAT THE
WATER IS BEING USED FOR CANNABIS
. THEY WILL ARREST MANY PEOPLE
IN MY COMMUNITY WHO ARE DOING
WHAT, EXACTLY WHAT THEY KNOW
WHICH IS FARMING AND JAILED FOR
MANY YEARS. THE BILL WILL GIVE
THE COUNTY EXACTLY WHAT THEY
WANT. THANK YOU. AND THE OTHER
THAN OPPOSITION. MR CHAIR ARE
MONTH. LUCIANO THE ADAPTATION LÀ
CAUCUS. WE ARE NOT NEUTRAL WITH
THE AMENDMENTS ADOPTED OR TAKEN
. WANT TO TAKE THE SENATOR AND
THE COMMITTEE FOR WORKING WITH
US. THANK YOU. IT WILL BRING IT
BACK HOME. THERE YOU GO. THANK
YOU. CHAIR SALAD TOMATO ON
BEHALF OF CALIFORNIA NORMAL. WE
ALSO APPRECIATE THE WORK OF THE
AUTHOR, AND WE UNDERSTAND THE
ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS BUT WITH
THE AMENDMENTS WERE NO NEUTRAL
AS WELL. AND DO COONEY WITH THEY
SELL YOU CALIFORNIA ACTION WERE
ALSO NO LONGER OPPOSING THE BILL
WITH THE RECENT AMENDMENTS, BUT
WE DID THINK IT IMPORTANT THAT
MR MOON COME AND SPEAK TODAY.
THANK YOU. OKAY NOW BRING IT
BACK TO COMMITTEE FOR THE
COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS IF I COULD
STRIP JUST CONFIRMING RIGHT NOW,
YOU GUYS DID PULL YOUR
OPPOSITION AND YOU JUST WANTED
TO RELEASE TESTIFY. NOT HIM. WE
HAVE CALLED OUR OPPOSITION TO
THE BILL AFTER THE AMENDMENTS,
BUT WE STILL WANTED TO TESTIFY.
MHM CAME DOWN LAST NIGHT. OKAY?
THANK YOU. I JUST NEED THAT
CLARIFIED. YEAH. OKAY? AND I
JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THE
AMENDMENTS THAT YOU TOOK
ESSENTIALLY EXPAND A FELONY.
THEY DON'T CREATE A NEW FELONY.
UM THE I TOOK THE COMMITTEE
AMENDMENTS. WHICH OKAY? THANK
YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. YOU
MAKE CLOTHES. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH, MR CHAIR. I APPRECIATE ALL
THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE ON
THIS AND I RESPECT FOR YOU. ASK
FOR YOUR I VOTE. THANK YOU FOR
YOUR COOPERATION WITH THE
COMMITTEE AND CHAIRS
RECOMMENDING I VOTE. THANK YOU.
ON SB 7 53 BY SENATOR CABALLERO
. THE MOTION IS DUE PASSES
AMENDED TO THE WATER PARKS,
PARKS AND WILDLIFE COMMITTEE
JOAN SAWYER ELONIS. AYE BANTA
BANTA. I BRIAN, BRIAN, I LACKEY
LACKEY. I ORTEGA OR TAKE AN ICE.
SANTIAGO SANTIAGO I. JACKSON
JACKSON, I MEASURE PASSES VERY
MUCH APPRECIATE IT. NEVER GONNA
GO THROUGH ALL THE MEASURES AND
ADD ON AND THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
SANTIAGO SANTIAGO. AYE. WE WERE
IN JUDICIAL. ITEM NUMBER ONE SP
TWO BY SENATOR PORTANTINO
SANTIAGO. SANTIAGO. AYE. ITEM
NUMBER TWO SP 46 WAS ON CONSENT.
I DON'T NUMBER THREE SB 58 HAS
BEEN DISPENSED WITH THE NUMBER
FOUR SB 67 WAS ON CONSENT. I
DON'T NUMBER FIVE SB 81 HAS BEEN
DISPENSED WITH ITEM NUMBER SIX
SB 89 WAS PULLED BY THE AUTHOR.
ITEM NUMBER SEVEN SP 94 BY
SENATOR CORTEZ E. SANTIAGO
SANTIAGO AYE. I REMEMBER EIGHT
SP 97 WAS ON CONSENT ITEM NUMBER
NINE SP 2 TO 6, BRIAN. EXCUSE ME
, BON TO KNOW TO KNOW BRIAN.
BRIAN NOT VOTING ON
RECONSIDERATION, BONTA. HI I
BRIAN BRIAN AYE. I DON'T NUMBER
10 SP 2 36 BY A SEMI MEMBER
JONES. THIS MEASURE WAS ON CALL
BANTA. WHAT WHAT ITEM ITEM
NUMBER 10. SB 10. EXCUSE ME TO
36 NOT VOTING, NOT VOTING,
BRIAN. BRIAN I ORTEGA ORTEGA I
SANTIAGO SANTIAGO I THAT MEASURE
PASSES. I DON'T NUMBER 11 SP 2
41 HAS BEEN DISPENSED WITH ITEM
NUMBER 12 SB 2 68 WAS PULLED BY
THE AUTHOR. ITEM NUMBER 13 SB 2
81 WAS ON CONSENT ITEM 14 SP 309
WAS ON CONSENT ITEM NUMBER 15 SB
3 59 BY SENATOR AMBERG SANTIAGO
. YES. BY SENATOR AMBERG. YOU
WANT TO ABSTAIN? EXCUSE ME? YES.
SANTIAGO, NOT VOTING. ON
RECONSIDERATION. ON
RECONSIDERATION. AYE. ITEM
NUMBER 16 SP 3 68 BY SENATOR
PORTANTINO SANTIAGO AH SANTIAGO.
AYE. I'M NUMBER 17 SB 3 77 HAS
BEEN DISPENSED WITH NUMBER 18 SB
404 EXCUSE ME. 404 BY SENATOR
WAHAB. THIS MEASURE WAS ON CALL
BONTA. I BRIAN. BRIAN I ORTEGA
ORTEGA I SANTIAGO SANTIAGO. I
JACKSON JACKSON I THAT MEASURE
PASSES. INVESTMENT. I HAVE I
HAVE YOU AS AS VOTING SERVICE
ALREADY EARLIER, YES. YEAH. AND
ITEM NUMBER 19 S BEFORE 52 BY
SENATOR BLAKE SPEAR. SANTIAGO
SANTIAGO AYE. ITEM NUMBER 20 SB
4 64 WAS ON CONSENT ITEM 21. SB
4 74 SANTIAGO SANTIAGO. AYE.
ITEM. 22 SB 602 HAS BEEN
DISPENSED WITH ITEM NUMBER 23 BY
SCENT BETTER. RUBIO BONTA, I
BRIAN BRIAN. AYE. ITEM 24 SB 6
90 WAS PULLED BY THE AUTHOR.
ITEM NUMBER 25 SB 7 53 WAS JUST
DISPENSED WITH AN ITEM NUMBER 26
SP 7 96 WAS PULLED BY THE
AUTHOR. CONCLUSION. THAT
CONCLUDES OUR PUBLIC SAFETY
COMMITTEE.
YEAH.