OKAY WE HAVE A. WE HAVE A QUORUM
I'M AT A WELCOME TO THE ASSEMBLY
JUDICIARY COMMITTEE ON ASK THE
COURT TO PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
MAIENSCHEIN CONNOLLY DIXON HANEY
CALLED. THE CHECK HERE HAPPEN
REYES. SANCHEZ MECHANIC HERE. WE
HAVE PARKS THANK YOU AND FOR
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC BACK TODAY
NORMALLY WE HAD A ONE THIRTY
START TIME BUT AT THE SENATE WAS
STILL IN SESSION SENATORS
REQUIRED TO BE THERE TO VOTE NOW
THAT THE SENATE HAS ADJOURNED-
AND WE HAVE AUTHORS OVER HERE WE
CAN BEGIN- BUT THAT'S BEEN THE
REASON FOR THE DELAY ONE OF OVER
A FEW- TALK ABOUT. THE CONDUCT
OF THE MEETING WE'RE GONNA BEGIN
WITH A SPECIAL ORDER OF BUSINESS
TO ALLOW ADDITIONAL TIME FOR
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE TO
CONSIDER AND REMEMBER THE
PUBLIC'S TO EXPRESS THEIR
OPINIONS ABOUT SB FOUR THREE RE
REALIZE THAT MANY PEOPLE TRAVEL
TO SACRAMENTO TO VOICE OUR
OPINIONS AND WE WANT TO HEAR
FROM YOU. UNFORTUNATE TIME HERE
THIS MATTER IS NOT UNLIMITED WE
HAVE TEN OTHER BILLS TO HEAR ON
A REGULAR AGENDA INCLUDING AT
LEAST ONE OTHER BILL WITH NEARLY
FORTY GROUPS HAVE REGISTERED
THEIR SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION SO
AFTER THE AUTHOR'S PRESENTATION
OF THE BILL EACH SIDE SUPPORT IN
OPPOSITION LAB TOTAL OF THIRTY
MINUTES RIGHT TO VOICE THEIR
OPINIONS THE TIME WILL BE BROKEN
DOWN TO INCLUDE TESTIMONY THE
TWO MAIN WITNESSES. ALLOWING TWO
WITNESSES EACH CAMP FOR MEMBERS
OF THE PUBLIC WHO WILL BE ABLE
TO IDENTIFY THEMSELVES BY NAME
AND IF THE REPRESENTING AN
ORGANIZATION THE NAME IN THAT
ORGANIZATION ONLY. AFTER EACH
SIDE USES UP THERE THIRTY
MINUTES. WE WILL THEN TURN TO
THE COMMITTEE AND THE COMMITTEE
HAS UP TO THIRTY MINUTES DON'T
HAVE TO USE IT ALL BUT HAS UP TO
THIRTY MINUTES. FOR QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS FROM THE COMMITTEE- AND
I ALSO WANT TO JUST GO OVER
RULES OF CONDUCT. THERE IS NO
TALKING OR LOUD NOISES FROM THE
AUDIENCE THAT WILL BE ALLOWED
PUBLIC COMMENT MAY BE PROVIDED
ONLY AT THE DESIGNATED TIME. AND
IS LIMITED TO THE NAME
ORGANIZATION IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION OF A BILL. NO CONDUCT
THAT DISRUPTS DISTURBS OR
OTHERWISE IMPEDES THE ORDERLY
CONDUCT OF THIS HEARING. NO
ENGAGING IN PERSONAL ATTACKS OF
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE AUTHORS
OR STAFF. AND PLEASE BE AWARE
THAT VIOLATION OF THESE RULES.
MAY SUBJECT YOU TO REMOVE ALL
OUR OTHER ENFORCEMENT PROCEDURES
WITHOUT WE WILL BEGIN WITH ITEM
ONE SB FOUR OH THREE BOB. CENTER
WHILE I'M WALKING.
THE.
WHAT YOU MAY PROCEED THANK YOU
CHAIR ASSEMBLY MEMBERS AND
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. FIRST I
RECEIVED SPECIAL PERMISSION TO
LEAVE THE SENATE FOR SORRY- THE
GOAL OF THIS BILL IS SIMPLY TO
BAN THE KINDS OF CASTUS
PERMISSION THAT EXIST ON EVERY
CONTINENT IN ACROSS DIVERSE
COMMUNITIES AND CULTURES. CAST
SYSTEMS ARE A SOCIAL HIERARCHY
THAT LIMITS HUMAN POTENTIAL
CRUSH SPIRITS AND CALLS
INTERGENERATIONAL TRAUMA
SPANNING CENTURIES. PEOPLE
SUFFER IN SILENCE FOREVER
TRAPPED IN BONDAGE. NO EDUCATION
MARRIAGE WEALTH NOR GENERATIONS
CAN BREAK THE INVISIBLE SHACKLES
OF CASTE IMPOSED AT BIRTH. CASTE
DISCRIMINATION POSES A THREAT TO
CALIFORNIA INDUSTRIES FROM
AGRICULTURE TO HEALTH CARE AND
TECHNOLOGY THE OVERWHELMING
RESPONSE FROM PEOPLE ACROSS THE
STATE IN SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION
THE BILL EXPOSED TO HATE AND
DISCRIMINATION. CLEARLY WE HAVE
HIT A NERVE AND THAT MEANS
SOMETHING IS GOING ON SOMETHING
IN CALIFORNIA IS GOING ON. THE
NATION RALLIED IN TWENTY TWENTY
TO DRESS THE SYSTEMIC AND
INEQUITIES THAT CONTINUE TO
PERPETUATE DISCRIMINATION
AGAINST BLACK COMMUNITY MEMBERS
THERE'S A SIMILAR RECKONING TO
DESTROY THE WILL OF POWER AND
PRIVILEGE PERPETUATED BY CASTE
SYSTEMS. CASTE DISCRIMINATION
MANIFESTS AS HOUSING
DISCRIMINATION UNFAIR HIRING
PRACTICES HUMAN TRAFFICKING
WORKPLACE BULLYING AND
HARASSMENT GENDER BASED VIOLENCE
AND SEXUAL ABUSE THERE'S SIMPLY
NO PLACE FOR THIS TYPE OF
DISCRIMINATION. SB FOUR THREE IS
A SIMPLE BILL THAT DOES NOT HARM
OR TALK TO TARGET ANY SPECIFIC
COMMUNITY NOR RELIGION IT
CLARIFIES THAT CASTE
DISCRIMINATION WILL NOT BE
TOLERATED IN CALIFORNIA UNDER
THE FAIR EMPLOYMENT AND HOUSING
OPPORTUNITY ACT AND THE UNRUH
CIVIL RIGHTS ACT IT DEFINES HOW
CASTE SYSTEMS MAY MANIFEST
INVOLVES CIVIL RIGHTS DEPARTMENT
AT THE READY FOR ENFORCEMENT. OF
VIOLATIONS IN FACT. CISCO THE
CSU SYSTEM HARVARD SEATTLE AND
THE CALIFORNIA DEMOCRATIC PARTY
HAVE ALL ADOPTED EXPLICIT
LANGUAGE TO MITIGATE CASTE
DISCRIMINATION. CLEARLY THIS IS
NOT A SIMPLE TECH ISSUE. CAST AS
A CIVIL RACIAL GENDER WORKERS
WOMEN'S AND HUMAN RIGHTS ISSUE
AND IT'S WHY WE HAVE A COALITION
OF SUPPORTERS ACROSS SECTORS.
WHICH INCLUDES THE CALIFORNIA
LABOR FEDERATION THE ACLU THE
END OF LACI P. THE ME TOO
MOVEMENT STOP API HATE INDUCED
FOR HUMAN RIGHTS APALA ALPHABET
WORKERS UNION. THE SOUTH ASIAN
BAR ASSOCIATION BEND THE ARC
CARE THE CALIFORNIA APARTMENT
ASSOCIATION. THE UNITED NATIONS
SPECIAL REPERTOIRE REPUBLICANS
AND DEMOCRATS ALIKE INCLUDING
OUR CENTRAL COMMITTEES BOTH
ALAMEDA COUNTY. I SANTA CLARA
COUNTY MONTEREY COUNTY AND
OTHERS. INCLUDING THE COALITION
OF C. COMMUNITIES ACROSS
CALIFORNIA WHICH REPRESENTS OVER
THIRTY FIVE C. COMMUNITY
ORGANIZATIONS WITH A COMBINED
MEMBERSHIP OF OVER TWO HUNDRED
THOUSAND PEOPLE. INTO SEEK
MUSLIM CHRISTIAN JEWISH JANE AND
MANY OTHER INTERFAITH COMMUNITY
SUPPORT SB FOUR OF THREE. THE
BILL NEVER DID AND WAS NEVER
INTENDED TO SINGLE OUT ANY
PARTICULAR COMMUNITY BECAUSE IT
LITERALLY. GETS A SYSTEM THAT
ENCOMPASSES ALL COMMUNITIES I
STAND BEFORE YOU AS A PROUD
AMERICAN ONE WHO BELIEVES IN
DEFENDS AND PROTECTS AMERICAN
DREAM WHERE NO MATTER WHERE
YOU'RE FROM WHAT RELIGION YOU
PRACTICE WHO YOU LOVE OR WHAT
BACKGROUND YOU HAVE YOU ARE
GUARANTEED TO BE ABLE TO LIVE
YOUR FULL POTENTIAL HERE IN THE
UNITED STATES. CIVIL RIGHTS
SHOULD NOT BE DECIDED BY
POLITICAL BARGAINING IN FACT
I'VE OFTEN TOLD PEOPLE THIS BILL
IS NOT ABOUT INDUSTRY IT'S NOT
ABOUT MONEY IT'S ABOUT THE
DIGNITY OF PEOPLE PAST PRESENT
AND FUTURE. THE MEMONS REPRESENT
A CONCEPT OF THE BILL MY OFFICE
DISCUSSED AT LENGTH WEEKS AGO
WE'VE DEBATED MUCH. ABOUT THIS
BILL BECAUSE IT IS INCREDIBLY
IMPORTANT I'M GLAD THE COMMITTEE
IN THE CHAIR- AGREED OF THIS
IDEA AS WELL THE WORLD IS
WATCHING CALIFORNIA WILL SET A
PRECEDENT THAT OTHERS WILL
FOLLOW SO LET'S DO THIS RIGHT
AND LET'S DO THE RIGHT THING. I
WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE MY TWO
WITNESSES FIRST IS TO NEW JANE
GUPTA. WHO IS A FORMER SENIOR
ENGINEERING PROGRAM MANAGER OF
TWENTY YEARS WITH ELEVEN OF
THOSE YEARS AT GOOGLE. AS SHE
GREW FROM INDIVIDUAL CONTRIBUTOR
TO SENIOR PEOPLE MANAGER AT THE
COMPANY SHE ALSO ADVOCATED FOR
WORKERS RIGHTS IN THE FORM OF
LEADING A GLOBAL WALK OUT.
AGAINST SEXUAL HARASSMENT IN
TWENTY EIGHTEEN AND SUCCESSFULLY
LOBBYING FOR GOOGLE TO AND ITS
POLICY OF FORCED ARBITRATION IN
MARCH TWENTY NINETEEN. SHE WAS
ALSO A KEY ADVOCATE FOR H. R.
FOUR FOUR FOUR FIVE WHICH BECAME
LAW IN MARCH OF TWENTY TWENTY
TWO. BRINGING TOGETHER SURVIVORS
OF SEXUAL HARASSMENT AROUND THE
COUNTRY TO END FORCED
ARBITRATION AT THE FEDERAL
LEVEL. SHE IS THE RECIPIENT OF
THE TWENTY NINETEEN AMBASSADOR I
MEAN AMERICAN ASSOCIATION FOR
JUSTICE STEPHEN J. SHARP PUBLIC
SERVICE AWARD. TUNISIA WAS
PROMOTED THREE TIMES DURING HER
TENURE AT GOOGLE CONSISTENTLY
GARNERING SUPER PERFORMANCE
REVIEWS AND DOUBLING HURRY
REPORTING TEAM. OVER YEAR OVER
YEAR SINCE TWENTY NINETEEN.
WHILE MANAGING A LARGE TEAM AT
GOOGLE AND WORKING ON SOME OF
THE ITS HIGHEST PROFILE
ENGINEERING AND REGULATORY
INITIATIVES TO NEW SHIP BUILT A
DIVERSE THE EQUITY INCLUSION
PROGRAM. THAT WAS RECKONED
PLICATA BY SEVERAL TEAMS WITHIN
THE COMPANY. HOWEVER WHEN SHE
ADVOCATED FOR CAST EQUITY IN
TWENTY TWENTY TWO HER CAREER
CAME TO A STANDSTILL. WHAT
HAPPENED TO HER AND HER
COLLEAGUES THAT GOOGLE IS ONE OF
THE REASONS WHY I AUTHORED S.
BEFORE THREE TO BAN CASTE
DISCRIMINATION. MY NEXT WITNESS
IS TARENA MAN'S. TERENA MANNED.
PRACTICE UP. INCLUDES LITIGATING
PLAINTIFF CLASS ACTION MASS
TORTS AND EMPLOYMENT
DISCRIMINATION CASES IN
CALIFORNIA STATE COURT AND
FEDERAL COURT ACROSS THE
COUNTRY. SHE IS THE PAST
PRESIDENT OF THE SOUTH ASIAN BAR
ASSOCIATION OF SAN DIEGO. AND
THE CURRENT CHAIR OF THE RACIAL
JUSTICE TASK FORCE FOR THE SOUTH
ASIAN BAR ASSOCIATION OF NORTH
AMERICA. SHE'S ALSO BOARD MEMBER
OF CAL UP A POP UP. IN THE CHAIR
OF THE D. AND I SUB COMMITTEE
FOR THE NATIONAL FEDERATION
FEDERAL BAR ASSOCIATION SHE'S
BEEN SELECTED TO. THIS SUPER
LAWYERS RISING STARLETS IN
CALIFORNIA FOR TWENTY TWENTY
THREE. SHE RECEIVED THE RISING
STAR AWARD FOR THE FEDERAL BAR
ASSOCIATION OF SAN DIEGO IN
TWENTY TWENTY TWO. AND THE SAN
DIEGO COUNTY BAR ASSOCIATION IN
TWENTY TWENTY THREE. OVERALL I
DO TRUST MY COLLEAGUES TO STAND
ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF HISTORY ON
THIS MATTER AND I HOPEFULLY. I
HOPE THAT YOU WILL ALL MOVE THIS
BILL WITH AMENDMENTS I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN AYE VOTE
. THANK YOU BYE AND EACH WITNESS
UP TO TWO MINUTES EACH AND YOU
CAN START. EITHER EITHER ONE I
WOULD LIKE TO START FIRST THANK
YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON. IN
SEPTEMBER TWENTY TWENTY ONE TO
GOOGLE EMPLOYEES APPROACH ME
CONFIDENTIALLY ABOUT THE CASTE
DISCRIMINATION THEY EXPERIENCED
WHEN TRYING TO HOST. AN EXPERT
SPEAKER TO COME TALK ABOUT THE
LATE CIVIL RIGHTS. SERVER
CONTEXT GOOGLE HOSTS DOZENS OF
EXTERNAL SPEAKERS ON A WEEKLY
BASIS AROUND THE GLOBE TO
EDUCATE AND ENRICH THE WORK
EXPERIENCES OF ITS EMPLOYEES. I
SAW THE VALUE IN THE TALK AND
AGREED TO HOST IT WITH MY TEAM
IN THE SPRING OF TWENTY TWENTY
TWO. HOWEVER AS SOME COLLEAGUES
LEARNED ABOUT THE TALK THEY
COMPLAINED TO HUMAN RESOURCES
THAT THIS TALK ABOUT THOSE DAHLE
IT CIVIL RIGHTS. MADE THEM FEEL
UNSAFE IN THE WORKPLACE. HAVING
TO A HECKLER'S VETO- WILL
POSTPONE THE TALK INDEFINITELY.
WHEN I BLEW THE WHISTLE ON THIS
DECISION- WILL LOWERED MY
PERFORMANCE RATING. REDUCED MY
COMPENSATION. ANDY MEEK
INELIGIBLE FOR FUTURE PROMOTIONS
. MEANWHILE EMAIL THREADS THAT
DENIED CAST DISCRIMINATION. OR
MADE OPENLY BIGOTED STATEMENTS
SPREAD THROUGHOUT THE COMPANIES
LARGE LISTSERVS UNCHECKED BY HR.
IT IS BEEN OVER ONE YEARS SINCE
I LEFT GOOGLE AND THAT CAST
EQUITY TALK. THAT THE COMPANY
POSTPONED HAS STILL NOT HAPPENED
WITH ANY BALLOTS SPEAKER. WHILE
SEVERAL OTHER DIVERSITY AND
INCLUSION TALKS HAVE STILL
OCCURRED CONFIRMING THE SECOND
CLASS STATUS OF THOSE WORKERS
THAT GOOGLE. WORKERS NEED SB
FOUR OH THREE. THIS BILL
PROTECTS WORKERS THAT SPEAK OUT
AGAINST CASTE DISCRIMINATION AS
WELL AS THOSE WHO ARE ACCUSED OF
CASTE DISCRIMINATION BECAUSE
UNTIL S. BEFORE- THREE IS LAW.
CALIFORNIA COMPANIES IN COURTS-
LIKE WILL STRUGGLE TO UNDERSTAND
THE MEANING OF CAST THE REQUIRED
LEVEL OF RIGOR AROUND INTERNAL
INVESTIGATIONS OF CASTE BASED
DISCRIMINATION CLAIMS. AND HOW
CAST FITS INTO DISCRIMINATION
LAW IN TERMS OF THE BURDENS OF
PROOF PRODUCTION AND PERSUASION
SB FOUR THREE REQUIRES PUBLIC
AND PRIVATE INSTITUTIONS TO
RECKON WITH CAST IN MODERN
AMERICA AND I HOPE THIS
COMMITTEE DOES THE SAME TODAY.
RIGHT NEXT WITNESS PLEASE. GOOD
AFTERNOON MY NAME IS TRINA
MANNED AND I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF
OVER TWENTY THOUSAND ASIAN
PACIFIC AMERICAN LEGAL
PROFESSIONALS IN CALIFORNIA. THE
SOUTH ASIAN BAR ASSOCIATION OF
NORTH AMERICA THE PAN ASIAN
LAWYERS OF SAN DIEGO AND THE
BLACK BAR ASSOCIATIONS EARLY
GILLIAM. I STAND I SIT BEFORE
YOU REPRESENTING MANY VOICES.
BECAUSE CASTE DISCRIMINATION IS
A WIDESPREAD ISSUE THAT AFFECTS
AMERICANS FROM FATES AND
CONTINENTS RANGING FROM SOUTH
AMERICA AFRICA AND ASIA. IN
CALIFORNIA THERE'S A LARGE
IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY FROM MANY
DIFFERENT COUNTRIES MANY OF WHOM
ARE NOW FACING CASTE
DISCRIMINATION IN THE UNITED
STATES. THE CALIFORNIA
DEPARTMENT OF FAIR EMPLOYMENT
AND HOUSING LANDMARK LAWSUIT
AGAINST CISCO FOR EMPLOYMENT
DISCRIMINATION BASED ON CASTE IS
THE PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WHY WE
NEED TO EXPRESS LANE YOU MAY
CAST. AFTER SUCCESSFULLY
AVOIDING DEFENDANTS THIS GOES
REQUEST FOR ARBITRATION CISCO
WAS SUED FOR DISCRIMINATION ON
THE BASIS OF RELIGION ANCESTRY
NATIONAL ORIGIN AND RACE. IN
THAT CASE THE JUDGE DENIED THE
ADMISSION OF EVIDENCE RELATED TO
CAST. THIS RULING SERVES AS AN
EXAMPLE THE COURTS WILL BE
RELUCTANT TO ADMIT EVIDENCE
RELATED TO CAST EVEN IF IT'S
RELEVANT TO THE CASE. THIS WOULD
MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR
VICTIMS TO PROVE THEY WERE
DISCRIMINATED AGAINST ON THE
BASIS OF CASTE. THE OPPOSITION
ARGUES THAT SOUTH ASIANS WILL BE
DISPROPORTIONATELY AFFECTED BY
THE COUNT ABILITY IN THIS BILL.
THAT'S ANALOGOUS TO SAYING THAT
RACE DISCRIMINATION LAWS WRONGLY
AFFECT WHITE PEOPLE. A GENDER
DISCRIMINATION LAWS WRONGLY
AFFECT MEANT. SB FOUR THREE
WOULD PROTECT NOT JUST LOWER
CASTE PEOPLE BUT WOULD ALSO HELP
PROTECT PEOPLE OF HIGHER CASTE
WERE DISCRIMINATED AGAINST BY
PEOPLE OF LOWER CASTE. THE
SHIELD WORKS BOTH WAYS. THE S.
BEFORE THREE. BILL IS CRITICAL
AND NECESSARY IN THE STEP TO
FIGHT AGAINST CASTE BASED
DISCRIMINATION AND WE URGE YOU
TO SUPPORT AS BEFORE THREE TO
HELP MAKE CALIFORNIA A MORE JUST
AND EQUITABLE PLACE FOR ALL.
THANK YOU THANK YOU NOW WE WILL
HEAR WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
MICROPHONE IS. RIGHT THEIR- NAME
AND IF YOU'RE WITH AN
ORGANIZATION ORGANIZATIONALLY
AND PHARMACISTS WITNESSES. OR AS
THOSE WITNESSES APPROACHING I
JUST WANNA CONFIRM WITH THE
AUTHOR OR THE AUTHOR'S ACCEPTED
THE MAMMOTHS CORRECT. CORRECT
THANK YOU. MY NAME IS THE
MORNING SOUNDARARAJAN I'M HERE
WITH THE QUALITY LABS FOR THE
SPONSORS OF THE BILL AND I AM IN
HI AND PLEASE IN SUPPORT. HELLO
EVERYONE MY NAME IS THE BEST
THING HI I AM REPRESENTING TO
REPULSE THE WALKING FITS FOR
CALIFORNIA. HI AM I WANT TO KEEP
. WE WOULD OFTEN HAVE. MY IS ALI
ABBAS I SPOKE THIS WITH. THANK
WELCOME AND NOT GOING IN OFFICE
GROUP WILL BE A AND I SUPPORT
DISPOSED. THANK. THANK YOU ALL
MEMBERS MY NAME KERN- COMING
FROM SEVEN TO EIGHT STRAW
SUPPORT S. B. THREE THANK YOU.
PUT UP FOR MEMBERS I SPOKE BILL
PLEASE MAKE A QUALITY THANK YOU
. YEAH. ONE I'M- MY NAME IS THE
MOST. ON LIVING THERE SO OF. I
SUPPORTING HARD IN. THE S. B.
THREE TWENTY. I'M DOCTOR FROM
GUYMON STAND READY GOT A- I AM
ALSO THE PRISON YOU KNOW WAY AND
THAT GUY. I FULLY SUPPORT BILL
PLEASE VOTE YES. HELLO MY NAME
YOU TO GO BECAUSE ALL CITY MMHM
HELLO. FOR QUARTER THREE. SPORT
IF. MY NUMBER BECAUSE THIS ONE
BETWEEN. REPUBLICAN YEAH. GOOD
MANY MY NAME IS ONE CAR ON THE
CHIU UP WITH GROOVY DASA IT
WHICH SORT I STRONGLY SUPPORT S.
FOR AT SB THREE. GOOD AFTERNOON
EVERYBODY NAME IS SOME I'M OF A
PRESIDENT OF IS AGREED THE LAST
CHRISTOPHER CAL. AND STRONG SB-
THREE. HI GOOD AFTERNOON MY NAME
IS PARAM GEET KARAM FROM BADIA
PIEDMONT I'M SUPPORTING BILL SB
FOUR OH THREE I'M PROBLEMA
INTERNATIONAL BEAM. OPEN THANK
YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON MY NAME IS
COMMODITIES THREE LARA AND I'M
FROM PITTSBURGH CALIFORNIA AND
I'M THE TREASURER OF
INTERNATIONAL BULLETIN
ORGANIZATION AND I STRONGLY
SUPPORT SB FOUR ZERO THREE BILL
. GOOD AFTERNOON I'M VISIBLE
FROM FAIRFIELD I SUPPORT THIS
BILL THANK YOU. AFTERNOON MY
NAME SILVERMAN THE MOMMY I'M
CALLING FROM THE DAYS AND- LOST
OF. FORTY S. B. F. FOUR CA YEAH
. GOOD I MY NAME VINOD KUMAR I'M
BREAKDOWN CHIU OF OUR WORK AND-
OUR SPORT BEFORE- THREE STRONGLY
THANK YOU. HELLO MY IS TWO
THOUSAND BUT TIA I SPOKE DOES
STRONG. HI I AM MY NAME IS ROGER
ROGER MORE. I AM A BUSINESSMAN
FORMER CHAIRPERSON CITIGROUP OF
THAT STUMBLE FRESNO I SUPPORT
THIS BILL SB FOUR OH THREE THANK
YOU SO MUCH. HI MY NAME LIKE THE
DRY ANNA BECAUSE BUTTE I AM
POLLS AND SCORES. MY NAME TO
GIVE VOTE YES BOARD DOES FOUR OR
THREE. MY NAME IS IN THE WORLD
YES ORDER THREE S. REPORTER
THREE. HELLO MY NAME'S MORE TO
SAYING A PROBLEM BECAUSE BILL I
SUPPORT SO REPORTER THIRTY THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. HI MY NAME IS
SIR- I REMEMBER OF SRI GURU
RAVIDASS SUBURB IN PITTSBURGH I
AM ALSO A MEMBER OF IBOV OF
PITTSBURGH THANK YOU. GOOD
AFTERNOON TO EVERYBODY GARAGE
ABOUT ALL I JUST NEVER HEARD
BACK FROM INDIA IN ORDER TO VOTE
. S. B. PHOTO THREE THANK YOU.
GOOD AFTERNOON MY NAME IS RAMESH
AMAP FORMER PRESS JEFF. OFFERS
LAST TEMPLE PITTSBURGH. AND REST
BROKER AND THAT BY BAY AREA I
STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS AND COST
YOU TO DO THE SAME THANK YOU
MUCH. GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYBODY
MY NAME IS SAKSHI PAUL AND I'M
IS CIVIC- THE PRESENTER TO FROM
CITY OF FAIRFIELD AND AT PRESENT
I'M PRESIDENT OF INDIAN CAT
EDUCATION WHITFIELD I'D STONE
STRONGLY SUPPORT BELASCO THREE
S. ZERO THREE OUT OF ALL THE
MEMBERS TO VOTE YES ON IT THANK
YOU. YES MANY HARD UP CONCORD
GOT. I JUST SUPPORT THIS THANK
YOU. HI EVERYBODY. MY NAME IS
VOCAL ON THE US. I YOUNG
PROPUESTAS CITY I HAVE A PIVOTAL
SENATE CANNELLA S. B. OR THREE.
THANK GOOD AFTERNOON MY NAME IS
STILL ON THE DON'T I EMPLOY
SPOKEN. I REQUEST FOR MAY BE.
BUT IN THE BACK ON THE SAME
BUTTE SVP A. THREE I CELLS
RELEASING SUNNDAL. I THIS. I AM
DELIVER US FROM SACRAMENTO AND I
STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS REAL. FOR
YOUR. THREE GOOD AFTERNOON
EVERYBODY MY NAME IS JUST READ
MY MIND I'M RUNNING A BUSINESS
AND HANFORD CALIFORNIA I
STRONGLY SUPPORT SB FOUR ZERO
THREE GOD BLESS AMERICA. HI MY
NAME IS LAKHAN SINGH PROBLEM
SHOULD EQUIP DOCILE WHILE SELMA
CALIFORNIA AND I STRONGLY
SUPPORT THIS BILL THANK YOU.
GOOD AFTERNOON COMMITTEE MEMBERS
OF MYSELF THE BOOKS- I'M THE
EXACT A MEMBER OF A SHOE WITH
THE LAST TEMPLE SACRAMENTO AND A
WE ALL ARE SUPPORTING THIS BILL-
PLEASE PASTAS WITH THANK YOU.
GOOD AFTERNOON MY NAME BUT IN
THE- I FROM THE AREA IS SPORT S.
B. FOUR OH THREE THANK YOU. HI
MY NAME IS CINDY FOR JESSE AND I
SUPPORT THIS BILL. IT GOOD
AFTERNOON MY NAME IS FOR CHASSIS
I STRONGLY SB. FOR OH THREE.
GOOD AFTERNOON THAT MY NAY IS
ANITA KUMARI ICE STRUGGLING
SPORT AS BEFORE THREE. I MY NAME
IS JOSH JESSE ARE NEW YORK AND
EXPLORE BEFORE. THREE GOOD
AFTERNOON EVERYONE MY NAME ABOUT
KITCHEN I'M FROM LOCAL HERE
SACRAMENTO CALIFORNIA MR TRONG
SUPPORT SB FOUR FOUR THREE THREE
MORTGAGE AND- HI EVERYONE MY
NAME IS SUPPOSED TO BE A LOT I'M
FROM PITTSBURGH. AND I AM A
MEMBER OF THE CITY WERE OF DAS
OF- AND ALSO I AM A MEMBER OF
THE- INTERNATIONAL BARGAIN
ORGANIZATION AND I AM AS- IN
BUSINESS I HAVE A BUSINESS IN
PITTSBURGH I HAVE A REAL ESTATE
BUSINESS AND- HIS CALL THIS BOAT
SB FOR A THREE. AND A I'M A
PROUD AMERICAN AND- YEAH GOD
BLESS AMERICA. I WOULD APPROVE
OF YOUR MIND OF DEVALUING PHONE
THREE ONE CALIFORNIA I SUPPORT
THIS EVENT AND- I DO OUR WHICH
WOULD. REST OF THAT AREN'T TANKS
. I AM HAVE DOUBTS IN FROM PARTS
OF CALIFORNIA. I STRONGLY
SPORTAGE SB FOUR THREE. THANK
YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE HI
MY NAME IS HAN SO SHE MARK I AM
FROM SALT SAN FRANCISCO. I AM ON
OUR OF. THREE BUSINESSES ONE
COULD NOT I'M IN SANTA CLARA AND
BE MONEY NEXT WEEK DALLAS. AND
COMFORT INN AND SUITES PRISCO. I
STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS BILL AS
BEFORE THREE THANK YOU. MY NAME
IN DALVIN FALL A MEMBER OF
INTANGIBLE ARE. I SPOKE THIS
BILL ABSOLUTE A SECURE PORTAL
RESTAURANT. HI MY NAME THE
SHOULDN'T FALL OF FROM FOR WHAT
COLOR. ON JAN ALL INTERNATIONAL
IN ALL CAL. STRONGLY SUPPORT AS
THE THREE TWO AND IS GOOD THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. MODOC MY NAME IS
YOU HAVE ONCE A ON PRO CIRCUIT.
I SAW AS REPORTER TO BE THANK
YOU. MUTANTES MY- SHE. HELLO
GOOD ON EVERY MY NAME IS CHRIS
NO YOU JUGGLE SECOND. AND I'M
SCHOOL THE BILL S. B. FOLLOW.
THREE GOOD AFTERNOON MY NAME IS
IT WAS MORE REFINED MANAGER OF
THE INSURANCE DIVERSITY
INITIATIVE OF THE CALIFORNIA
DEPARTMENT OF INSURANCE AND I AM
IN SUPPORT OF SB FOUR THREE.
GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE MY NAME
IS LOOKS MEATY CUT THREE I AM
THE BODY HINDU THAT EAT AND I'M
HERE TO SUPPORT SB FOUR OR THREE
BE A STRONGLY THANK YOU SO MUCH
. HI MY NAME IS A HUNDRED
BECAUSE I'M FROM EL GROW AND
THEIR COST IS STILL EXIST AND
OPERATE INDIA AND AMERICA TO
SIZE FOR DEATH. GOOD OFTEN
EVERYBODY THANK YOU VERY MUCH
FOR GIVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO
SAY SB FORTY THREE YES MY NAME
YET- I'M SAWYER FROM PRETTY
CALIFORNIA SB FOUR ZERO THREE
YES VOTE. GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M
PRETTY BUT YET I'M ALLOWED ME TO
HIM UNLESS COMMISSIONER AND
BOARD UP BOARD OF DIRECTOR OF
NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF
CALIFORNIA'S AFTER I IS STRONGLY
SUPPORT THIS SB PORT ZERO THREE
BECAUSE I AM NOBODY THOUGHT IT I
EXPEDIENCE COST DISCRIMINATION
HERE IN CALIFORNIA THANK YOU. HI
I AM AROUND MARTIN. B. SUPPORT
STRONGLY SB BOARD JESS SB PORTAL
THREE. MY CITY NUMBER A PIN CODE
NINE FOUR FIVE SIX ONE. THANK
YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON SIDE. I AM
OF ONSLOW JANICEK THREE GOOD US
ABOUT. ORIGINAL I STRONGLY IS.
FOUR S. B. PART THREE I WANT TO
LET AND CANNELLA THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. MARNER MONDAY PAUL PRIMARK
FOR JUROR ORGAN. ARKHAM ARE GOOD
TO DRIVE DAHLE. ON THE JOB JUST
. ON ARRIVAL TO MAKE. BY NAME IS
GIVE SAYING. I'VE BEEN A SENATOR
THE US SCREWED TO TIMES DIDN'T
PULL. ARE ALSO. I BELONG TO S.
CI. AND I 100% SUPPORT THIS WILL
REASON WHY IS OLD WHAT. MY NAME
IS THE FROM PRIMO I SUPPORTERS
SO BE THE. GOOD AFTERNOON SURE
BIRDS MAY AS DUKE OF A CAL
ACTION IS SUPPORT THANK YOU
AGAIN SENATOR FOR BRINGING THIS
BILL. MY THEM LIGHTLY WALDRON
JUST. THE MORE YOU NINE JET AND
YOUTH FROM YES YES. GOOD
AFTERNOON MY IS MINDY FROM AND
ICE BORDERS WITH THANK YOU. MY
NAME PRINCE BUT I'M GOING TO BE
IN A THERE ARE YOU. ARMS
STRONGEST THROUGH S. B. PORTAL
THANK YOU. HELLO MAKING A WITH
TECH EQUITY COLLABORATIVE AND
I'LL WORKER UNION SEAT AT A.
PROP SPONSOR THIS THE YOU. WHAT
ARE AND MY NAME IS BECAUSE ARE I
SB PORTAL THIS WORK. I NEED SAID
GEE THE COR MORTGAGE. HI MY NAME
IS GET A AND GO PITTSBURGH I
WOULD FOR. A B. FOR THREE. I AM
A CODE ZERO. AS WILL THREE ZERO
ABOUT. G. GOOD INDIAN. THIS BY.
IS GOING TO GET IN THE- JUST GOT
TO GET. HELLO EVERYBODY MY NAME
A GOOD THEIR SINGLE ON PURPOSE
WHAT. HOW STRONG SUPPORT BILL
TOTAL THREE. AND I'M BARGHEST
ALSO TAKE YOU BOB. EIGHT EIGHT.
HI MY NAME IS BONE COME ON FROM
AND A- OF NINE FIVE EIGHT NINE
AS SAY TO A BEFORE IT'S THANK
YOU. MY NAME IS THE CONDITION
BILLION HI LINDA I HAVE GROW
NINE PER SIX FOUR I BOUGHT FOR.
PHOTO THREE THANK YOU. MY IS
SIMPLE CONQUER CALIF MY BOARDING
YES WHICH. YES MY NAME IS TOPIC
I SHOT YOU ARE FROM WORK. MY
VOTE IS YES YES YES UNDER
PERCENT FOR ALL. THREE MY NAME
IS LIMITING I'M COMING ALSO
ALLEN I SUPPORT SB PHOTO THREE.
THANK YOU. MY NAME CANNELLA THEY
- DOES. TO VOTE. HI MY NAME IS
SERGEY HE I CAME FROM TO GIVE. A
PORTAL TO GS THANK YOU PROBLEMS
. THE SUPPORT AS PORTAL THREE
THANK YOU. HI MY NAME IS LINDA
AND I'M THE- AMERICAN INDIANS.
ONBOARD SOCIETY BELONG TO DOCTOR
UNLESS STRONGLY SUPPORT S. PHOTO
TO. THANK YOU AND TAX BILL. BY
NOON GEORGIA. THERE'S REPORTER.
THREE MY NAME IS LYNNE THAT'S S.
B. PORTAL THREE GOOD OF THOSE
BEFORE A LOT THANK YOU. SORRY MY
NAME IS THE DAY HE I FROM A CITY
GROUP DAS THE BUFFET. BEEN HERE
FORTY THREE YEARS THIS
UNFORTUNATE TO SEE THIS THING
GOING ON I S. B. FOR OH THREE.
MY NAME IS NOT A NOTHING I HAVE
FROM WHICH WERE SUPER OF DOS
WILL DAUGHTER. AND SUPPORT OF SB
. THREE EIGHT. HI MY NAME IS
OMITTED SO HOLD ON ON THREE
CALIFORNIA I SUPPORT WITH US SO
FOR ALL THREE ON THE MISSION
WITH US.
FOUR SB FROM THE THREE YES. MY
NAME IN THE ROOM PAUL. FROM
BOOKS WERE GOOD WITH US TEMPLE.
I BOUGHT SB PHOTO THREE YES
FOREST REPORT. THANK. MY NAME IS
SEAN SAYING I'M COMING HOME
AHEAD WHAT I'VE ASKED FOR THIS
BILL THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON
MY NAME IS COOL THE BAD HAND I'M
FROM CITY OF ANTELOPE AND I'M IN
FAVOR OF SB FOUR THREE THANK YOU
. MY NAME IS GOPI BALI I'M FROM
SUPREME COURT TELLS AGREE TO
VOTE OF US CALIFORNIA I STRONGLY
SUPPORT SB FOUR THREE THANK YOU
AND WHAT'S- HI EVERYONE MY NAME
IS A HARSH KUMAR ON FROM HOUSE
GROUP I SAY JUST THIS BECAUSE SO
MUCH. I MY NAME IS A NOD FROM
I'M FROM PRESIDENT I WAS SUPPORT
SB PORTAL COULD IT. HELLO HI
ROBBIE COME UP MY CITY THAT'LL
GROW MY BODY YES. HELLO MY NAME
IS THEY'VE FROM PRIMARK I
STRONGLY SUPPORT WILL AS FOUR
THREE THANK. MOST SINGH I'M FROM
FRESNO CA CAN WORK USED SUPPORT
SB FORTY THREE THANK YOU. MY
NAME IS. I'M PAUL KIND OF AND
MEMBER OF TO REMOVE THE PERSONAL
CALIFORNIA. I SPORT SB PORT
THREE. HELLO MY NAME IS MURRAY
BUT TIA I'M PROBABLY AWAY CAL. I
ALSO I'M ON. REAL STATE ON AND
ALL- BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE HI
MY- FOR S. B. FORTY THANK. MY
APOLLO LIVING GLOBAL. MY THAT'S
- NUMBER OF A- ORAL THREE. THANK
YOU. MY NAME IS COME DAY BY. I
AM FIX WHAT CAL. I SPOKE SB FOUR
THREE DRESSED. MY NAME IS
SHIFTING HIDA I'M FROM CITY OF
FOLSOM CALIFORNIA I AM A
BUSINESSMAN AND I SUPPORT BATTLE
SB FOUR OH THREE THANK. HELLO MY
NAME IS SANDEEP THEN ARM FROM
ITS FOR CALIFORNIA AND I'M YES
ON THIS BEFORE THREE. MY NAME IS
HEIDI THEN I'M FROM PITTSBURGH
CALIFORNIA AND I SUPPORT SB YOUR
THREE. HI MY NAME'S DOUG IN
SINGAPORE AND I'M FROM
PITTSBURGH CALIFORNIA AND I'M IN
SUPPORT OF SB FOUR OH THREE
THANK YOU. HELLO MY NAME'S THAT
DEEP AND I SUPPORT SB FOUR THREE
PLEASE READ IT AFTER YOU
ANYTHING WITHOUT THE SUPPORT.
HELLO MY NAME IS NILESH I AM
FROM PLEASANTON CALIFORNIA AND I
SUPPORT THE BILL AS BEFORE
VOTING THANK YOU. HELLO MY NAME
IS VERA. AND I'VE LEARNED ABOUT
THE PRESENT. CALIFORNIA I SORT
OF THIS SPELL THIS. THANK. D.
ALAMEDA COUNTY DEMOCRATIC PARTY
WOULD LIKE TO REGISTER THEIR
STRONG SUPPORT FOR US BEFORE A
THREE AND URGES AND I ABOUT.
EMMERAM QUESTION FROM SAN JOSE I
STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS BILL. GOOD
AFTERNOON I'M FROM CAMANCHE
PROMOTER HIT MORE THAN HIM AND I
AM REPRESENTING A VERY GOOD
INTERNATIONAL CENTER AND CORTES
AND ACT I STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS
BILL IT'S A HUMAN RIGHT. HELLO
I'M RAJU GOPAL I IT APPEARS
HINDUS FOR HUMAN AND A BETTER
AGAINST CASTRES. WE STRONGLY
SUPPORT SB FOUR OH THREE THANK
YOU. GLAZER MILLIKEN BRANDS FROM
SACRAMENTO I SUPPORT DISAGREE.
MY INDIVIDUAL AND YOU LOG AND OF
MY VOTE PROJECTS. I AM
COMMENCING FROM B. POINT I
SUPPORT THIS BILL THANK YOU.
GOOD AFTERNOON MY NAME IS
SANDEEP SINGH I'M THE EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR OF THE CHICANO MOVEMENT
THAT WORKS IN SEVENTEEN COUNTIES
ACROSS CALIFORNIA WE ABSOLUTELY
SUPPORT SB FOUR OH THREE I'VE
ALSO SUBMITTED A LETTER TO THE
CHAIR I WITH FIFTY OTHER
ORGANIZATIONS THANK YOU. GOOD
AFTERNOON MY NAME IS JOSH TEAM
SAYING I'M OF THE JIGAR MOVEMENT
FROM THE CENTRAL VALLEY I
STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS BILL.
UNIFOR BUNGALOW DO YOU KNOW. WHO
KNOWS. MINOR PARTY ONE THING TO
DO A CONTROL FREMONT ICEBERG
REST BEFORE THREE YES. HELLO MY
NAME IS THE ONE I CAN PROBABLY
MARK ICE FOR THIS BEEN. HOW MANY
CHILDREN DOES FLOOD SB PORTAL
THREE. THANK MY NAME IS CARMEN
DISSING FROM PITTSBURGH. I'M
STRONGLY SUPPORT YES FOR SB OR
FORTY. MY NAME IS IN THE SINK.
IT'S NOT A. MY NAME IS HOME
BHATIA WHOM HUMP FROM CITY WILL
CALIFORNIA. I SPOKE SB. FOUR OH
THREE YES. HI SOME GIRLS
ARAMBULA. THE GROUP DOES GUNS
RIGHT UP YOUR SERVER I STRONGLY
SUPPORT. SB FORTY TO. THAT
CONNECTS. GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY
I AM SUB ALREADY CAME FROM MÀ
FISH WERE WELL DISTRIBUTED OSOBA
. I SUPPORT A AS BEFORE STRONGLY
THANK. MY NAME'S OVERSHARE
GILLAM THE VICE OF CAPITAL TRIAL
LAWYERS ALL BOARD MEMBERS. SIX
TEMPLE I STRONGLY ENCOURAGE YOU
TO VOTE HI SIX. GOOD COMMITTEE
OF MY NAME'S ANDREW. I AM AT THE
MOMENT AN INTERNATIONAL HUMAN
RIGHTS LAWYER- I HAVE BEEN
APPOINTED BY PRESIDENT OBAMA AS
HIS MAKE. OF YOUR NAME YOUR NAME
NAME SUPPORT. DON'T HAVE TO SAY
WHO I AM. OKAY I SUPPORT THE
BILL AS IT IS WRITTEN NOW. THANK
YOU. MY NAME IS MINTA THING
DUMMY I LIVE IN CALIFORNIA LIFE
BORDERS A DRONE THANK YOU. MMI
YOU MIGHT NEVER TAKE A CHANCE.
I'D APPRECIATE. I LOVE FOUR ZERO
THREE YES. HI MY IS TO I NEED
SECOND CAN I SUPPORT THIS BILL
THANK YOU. CALIFORNIA STATE
THOSE ARE GONNA BE ABLE TO VOTE
AGAINST. MILLION DOLLAR CAR.
PHOTO MMHM A LITTLE. MEMBERS. MY
NAME IS JUST IN THE CAR I AM
FREE YOU KNOW MOTIVATED THIS.
THE METER MY NAME THAT MADE THE
DECISION THE REGIONAL SUPPORTER
YES. CENTREBOARD THEIR LIVES
THIS. THANK THANK YOU THAT
CONCLUDES OUR WITNESSES ARE
THIRTY MINUTES OF WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT NEXT I'D LIKE TO CALL
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION I'D ASK
THE TWO WITNESSES IN SUPPORT
THEY CAN MOVE TO ALLOW THE TWO
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION TO SEE
BE SEATED THERE.
AND THEN SAME AS THE PROPONENTS
WE HAVE TWO PRIMARY WITNESSES
WILL HAVE UP TO TWO MINUTES EACH
THEN WE'LL HEAR THIRTY MINUTES
OF WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION
STATING THE NAME AN ORGANIZATION
ONLY YOU MAY BEGIN. GOOD
AFTERNOON MY NAME IS SIMILAR
KALRA I'M AN ATTORNEY AT THE
HINDU AMERICAN FOUNDATION HERE
TO EXPRESS STRONG OPPOSITION TO
SB FOUR ZERO THREE WHAT THE
COMMITTEE CONSULTANT'S
RECOMMENDATIONS ARE A STEP IN
THE RIGHT DIRECTION ANY USE OF
CAST EVEN AS A CLARIFICATION OF
ANCESTRY IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL. BE
ANNOUNCES AFFIRMS THAT THE
BILL'S AUTHOR AND SUPPORTERS
EQUATE CAST WITH SOUTH ASIANS
AND REPEATS OR IT'S ENOUGH ALL
THE CLAIMS ABOUT SOUTH ASIAN
FROM A STUDY WHOSE METHODOLOGY
SO FAULTY IT WAS REFUSE AS
EVIDENCED BY THE PRESIDING JUDGE
OF THE CISCO CAST CASE. THIS IS
PRECISELY WHAT CONCERNS US THEIR
INTENT TO ADD A CATEGORY THAT
IMPLICATES ONE PARTICULAR ETHNIC
GROUP PREMISED ON QUESTIONABLE
DATA AND FALSE STEREOTYPES THIS
MAKES SB FOUR OH THREE DESCRIPT
DISCRIMINATORY ON ITS FACE IN
INTENT AND IMPACT. IF IT
COMMITTEE IS UNPERSUADED THAT
CAST AS A DISCRIMINATORY
CLARIFICATION THAT I ASK OUR ANY
OF THE NON SOUTH ASIANS ON THIS
COMMITTEE AT RISK OF BEING
PRESUMED TO HAVE A CAST. THE
SIMPLE ANSWER NOW. DO YOU ALL
HAVE A HERITAGE PARENTAGE OR
INHERITED SOCIAL STATUS. YES IF
THE GOAL IS ACTUALLY TO ADDRESS
ALL FORMS OF SOCIAL STATUS
DISCRIMINATION THANKS LEVINE
ANCESTRY WITH THE FACIALLY
NEUTRAL INHERITED SOCIAL STATUS
INSTEAD OF CAST. IS A
CONSTITUTIONAL PATH FORWARD.
THIS SOLUTION WILL EXPAND
PROTECTIONS. REGARDLESS OF HOW
SB FOUR THREE DEFINES CASS CASS
WILL ALWAYS BE ASSOCIATED WITH
SOUTH ASIANS JUST LOOK AROUND
THIS ROOM. AND DEMONISE PROFILE
AND TARGET US AS A MATTER OF
LAW. SINCE WE ALL AGREE THAT
CAST IS COVERED UNDER EXISTING
LAW WE URGE YOU TO OPPOSE THE
BILL OR AMENDED TO REMOVE ANY
MENTION OF CAST AND INSTEAD
CLARIFY ANCESTRY WITH FACIALLY.
NEUTRAL PHRASES SUCH AS
INHERITANCE SOCIAL STATUS I ASK
YOU TO PROTECT. TARGET NO ONE
AND I PULLED THE PROMISE OF
EQUAL PROTECTION THANK YOU.
THANK YOU NEXT WITNESS PLEASE.
WHY DID YOU GO TO COLLEGE SO I
COULD YOU COULD BUT THEN WE ARE
NOT STERN- SANGAT MEMBUTUHKAN
ARTICLE. AMERICA'S SIX POINTS ON
THIS ONE THAT THAT THAT YOU BUT
NICK WHEN WE SEE ON. WOMAN
ACCUSING SUNDAY THOUGHT BOTS
MENTAL BECAUSE MY THOUGHT HOOK
THERE. OFF ON A ON. A CD AND YOU
NEED A SCHOOL MONICA. CAN ONLY
WHO COME TO ONE OF THE KHADI ARE
FOR CLOUDY. ALEXION A PICTURE OF
IT TO SAY ARE. MOTHER NOT GONNA
IN MATH IN THE I FIND YOUR AND
ASK PEOPLE TO DIFFERENT BOTH THE
- GIRL GAVE BILL TALKING IT'S
NOT THAT. GIVE BECAUSE I'M SURE
JEFF PHONE. MECHANIC OTHER JOB.
OF NIKKI THOUGHT. IT POLITICS
ANYMORE THE IDEA BECAUSE EVEN
BECOME A TO ME I. WHAT IS AS
PEOPLE TO SIT ALL THIS OFFICE
GAVE WITH WILL ON YOUR THAT DAY
MAP ON. BOTH SIDES BUT HE GOT UP
YOU YOU OTHER.
THIS IS NOT THE COUNTY OCTOBER
ISN'T THE LACKING WILL NEED
THESE OTHER THOUGHT TO PAUL.
GAVE SOME CHARGE CUNNINGHAM
LUCKY THE AUTHOR SHASHI. GET
HUNG. INTO THE ON THE ONE OTHER
SOMEONE JOB THEY BE DON'T. IT'S
IMPORTANT THAT HE'S TALKING
ABOUT IS BIG JOB WHETHER IT BE
TO BE DONE OUT AT.
WELL BOARD AS REPORTER THREE GOD
BLESS AMERICA DONE A LOT. HEY
GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIR MEMBERS MY
NAME IS HER JOB CORPS AND I WILL
JUST BE TRANSLATING WHAT WAS
SAID. SO MY NAME IS AND I'M
SAYING I AM A US CITIZEN
BELONGING TO THE AMERICAN SICK
COMMUNITY AND A RESIDENT OF YUBA
CITY AMERICAN SIX HAVE BEEN
IMMENSELY CONTRIBUTING TO THE
GREAT LAND OF THE UNITED STATES
FOR MORE THAN A CENTURY WE ARE
DOCTORS ENGINEERS STORE OWNERS
BUSINESSMEN LAW ENFORCEMENT
OFFICERS AND ARMY PERSONNEL
ELECTED OFFICIALS AND SERVING IN
ALMOST EVERY SECTOR. I WANT TO
STATE THAT I AND MY COMMUNITY
ARE STAUNCH OPPOSERS OF SB FOUR
OH THREE BECAUSE THIS BILL IS
LIKE GIVING US POISON IN HONEY-
CAN HAVE NEVER EXPERIENCED THE
CASTE SYSTEM IT IS AN UGLY
DISEASE OF INDIA AND IT NEVER
MIGRATED TO THE U. S. BUT THIS
BILL IS DIRECTLY BRINGING THAT
YOU WILL ENTER A BEAUTIFUL
COUNTRY. IF I ASK YOU MY FELLOW
AMERICANS WHAT IS MY CAST NO ONE
WILL ANSWER CORRECTLY BECAUSE
THE CASTE SYSTEM DOES NOT EXIST
IN OUR COUNTRY INDIA USED TO BE
A VERY STRONG POWERFUL AND
PROSPEROUS COUNTRY. AND THE
DISEASE OF THE CASTE SYSTEM
WEAKENED IT FROM THE EIGHTH
CENTURY TO THE NINETEENTH
CENTURY INDIA WAS ATTACKED AND
RULED BY MANY DIFFERENT MUSLIM
RULERS JUST BECAUSE OF THIS CAST
DISEASE GREAT MAN OF ALL TIME
STATED THAT IF YOU WANT TO
DESTROY THE COUNTRY. SIMPLY SOW
THE SEEDS OF THE CASTE SYSTEM IN
THEIR SOCIETY. THIS BILL SB FOUR
OH THREE IS GOING TO SOW THE
SEEDS OF THE CASTE SYSTEM IN OUR
GREAT COUNTRY. YESTERDAY WE
CELEBRATED FOURTH OF JULY VERY
FONDLY AND TODAY WE REQUEST YOU.
FOR THE SAKE OF OUR INDEPENDENCE
FOREFATHERS FALLING HEROES
LIBERTY JUSTICE EQUALITY AND
FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS. AND A BETTER
FUTURE FOR OUR COUNTRY PLEASE
VOTE NO ON AS BEFORE THREE.
THANK YOU NOW WILL HAVE THIRTY
MINUTES OF WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION NAME. AND
ORGANIZATION IF YOU WERE
REPRESENT ONE ONLY. MY NAME IS
SANDEEP ELEVEN YEARS TECHNICAL
PROGRAM MANAGER AT AMAZON AND
ALSO THE FOUNDING CO FOUNDING
MEMBERS. OF NINETY B. THAT HAS
REPORTER WE ARGUMENT THAT
SUITABLE UP AND FINISH UP WITH A
MAY TWENTY. NO TO ANY AMENDMENT
THAT BASICALLY MENTIONS WHAT
CAST THANK YOU. HELLO RESPECTED
MEMBERS MY NAME IS
CHANDRASHEKHAR JOSHI. AND A
SENIOR IN THE MATTER THAT ACCESS
TO FEDERAL SERVICES AND I'M HERE
TO OPPOSE THIS BILL IN ANY FALL.
THANK YOU. YEAH COMMITTEE MY
NAME IS RAVI I'M TO X. MY UP. TO
US BEFORE THREE THANK YOU. GOOD
AFTERNOON COMMITTEE MEMBERS MY
NAME IS THE CHIEF OF THE LIQUOR
AND FOUNDER OF THE MATCH US FOR.
AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE AS BEFORE
THE THREE THANK YOU. HELLO MY
NAME IS VAISHALI I'M AFRAID. THE
I'M FIFTEEN GROUP OFF AND SAVE
UP FROM. I OTHER ANTI OPEN THAT
IS PEOPLE THREE US AS A CONSTANT
ON. THANK. HI BROWN DESAI PRESS
OF CASH PART DEMOCRATIC VALUES.
I STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BEFORE
SIR. HI MY NAME DONNA IT'S AND
THE NEW IN THE CORNER USA
FUNDING. WAS THE. GOOD AFTERNOON
MY NAME IS A GET THEM IN THE
MADAM THAT THIS OF MAKE IN INDIA
SPORTS COMING I STRONGLY OPPOSE
SB THE. THE GOOD AFTERNOON MY
NAME SOME CARL FROM SAN CALIF. I
AM A MEMBER OF ALL. APPLY MAYBE
R. NICE OPPOSE S. PORTAL THREE
BUT HE NEEDS. NOTHING ONE MY
NAME IS REBECCA MAY BE. I AM
WASTED GENTLE FORTY DAYS. SPORTS
OF. A STRONG OPPOSE IF BEFORE
PLEASE NOW CASH IN THE. HI NOT A
STATE MY NAME IS NOT A I A DAILY
.
GARCIA AND I OPPOSE THIS BILL.
MY NAME IS AJITH AND- I AM FROM
PLEASANTON AND I THINK THAT IT I
DON'T KNOW CAST SO I THINK NO
ONE. HE. HI MY NAME IS VEER- I'M
FROM FOLSOM CALIFORNIA AND- I
OPPOSE FOR NO. MY NAME IS G.
SHANKAR I. FROM LIVERMORE
CALIFORNIA. I DO NOT KNOW THE
CAST AND I DO NOT. HELLO MY NAME
IS I NEED WITH MOCAMA LAW I AM
FROM ROCKLIN CALIFORNIA I REJECT
THIS BILL. I AM ISHAN WILL COME
A LOT AND I STRONGLY OPPOSED SB
FOUR OH THREE. MY NAME IS REALLY
THIS FINE DAY I LIVE IN ROSE
CALIFORNIA AND A STRONG OPPOSE
THIS BEFORE THREE. MY NAME IS
FRED IS FUNDED I LOVE ALSO LOSES
HELP AND I OPPOSE US BEFORE. MY
NAME IS MONTY SHARMA ALSO FROM
ROSE BECAUSE AND I OF SB. THREE
MY NAME IS NINA CHAU GROWS
BIGGER I'M STRONG OPPOSE THIS
BILL THANK YOU. I AM A LITTLE
WHILE FROM C. ROLE WILL ONLY A
AS BEFORE THANK YOU. MY NAME IS
JOSHI I LIVE INSIDE AND I
STRONGLY OPPOSE AS BEFORE OF.
I'M DOCTOR ON A YOU DON'T SHE
SECOND I UP THIS BE AND YOU THE
- IN LATE THANK YOU. HI MY NAME
IS THE HARD TALK TO FOR DENIES
OF THE BILL BEFORE. I'M IN TENTH
GRADE THE BEAR AND I OPPOSE US
BEFORE SIR. I'M ENOUGH SHE THE
I'M FOR POINT PLEASANT AND CAL.
AND I DONG OPPOSE THIS BECAUSE.
MY NAME IS TWENTY ONE THAT I'M
IN THE CALIFORNIA I STRONGLY
FULL OPPOSE THIS BILL. I'M THIS
I AM FOR SAN JOSE TO. HISTORY
OPPOSE BEFORE ZERO THREE. I SO
HONEY THIS TIME FROM JOSE. AND I
JUST OPPOSE SB. ZERO THREE.
EIGHT OF THE TOP PART PLEASANT I
OPPOSE THIS BILL. MY IS SACHIN
KUMAR AND I SAY NO. KUMARASWAMY
LAKSHMAN HELLO- I ASKED OPPOSE
THIS THANK.
GET THE SECOND I AM OPPOSED TO
SP FOUR ZERO THREE I KNOW FIRST
AGAINST BULLYING. HELLO MY NAME
IS AFTER SCHOOL FROM SAN JOSE I
STRONG OPPOSE OF THIS BILL.
HELLO MY NAME IS ON THE CORNER
TIMES AND STRONGLY TO SPELL.
HELLO MY NAME IS A D. TODAY I AM
FOR SAN JOSE AND A STRONG OPPOSE
. HELLO MY NAME IS ANNA AND I'M
PLAZA AND DON'T WANT TO DO IN
SCHOOL. HELLO MY NAME IS AND I
SAW OPPOSED SB FOUR ZERO BECAUSE
I THINK BRINGS. NOTHING MY NAME
IS GARGI I'VE ON VOTE NO SB. FOR
THREE. HI MY NAME IS SHY LIVE IN
FREMONT AND I FOUND OPPOSE THE
BILL. HI MY NAME IS ALSO AND FOR
FREE. AND IT'S OPPOSE THIS BILL.
HI MY NAME IS RAY AND FOR
PRESIDENT I STRONGLY THE AND
PLEASE DO THAT I THINK. MEMBERS
OF MIND WITH MILLER THE CARE
FROM. A NICE THE- AS BEFORE.
HELLO I AM SO FROM AND ICE
OPPOSE THIS BILL I KNOW WANT TO
BE BY. THE SUIT ONE AM SHE CAN
DOESN'T I STRONG IT WAS BEFORE
THE THREE PLEASE ON BURDEN A.
THE SAME MY NAME IS DON FROM I'M
FROM PLEASANTON MY OPPOSED TO
BILL.
PLEASANTON MY NAME IS SELECTED
EVAN FOR THESE HIGH KNOW I SATAN
FOR TODAY. NOT. MAYBE SHE THE
SHOW I'M HIS FROM FOR DOES AND I
SUSPECT THANK YOU. MY NAME IS
BOBBY I'M A HIGH SCHOOL MOUNT
VIEW AND I STRONGLY. I AM HERE
THE NORTH DESPITE. HI THOMAS-
BILL WANT CIVIL AND NORTH TO
CAST US WELL THANK. MY NAME IS
THE SAN JOSE I KNOW. NUMBERS
THEY MIGHT IS ACTUALLY MCCARTY I
SEE NO TO THE- I'M CHUCK A THREE
SHOULD I STRONG DEAL THIS- I
LIST. NAME IS MY NAME IS AJAY I
AM FROM. I OPPOSES. ZERO THREE.
I AM BROTHER CHRISTOPHER CAL
FROM SANDER. AND I OPPOSED BILL
. MANY FROM FREMONT STRONGLY THE
DAY AS BEFORE THE BILL. HI BUT
THE RESULT THE CODE OF IN OF NOT
OPPOSED BEFORE. HELLO I THE NEW
FROM FREMONT AND I AM IT'S
BEFORE. THREE I TRISH FROM AND A
COLLEGE STUDENT AND I OPPOSE THE
BILL FOUR. I'M BERMAN THOMAS
ISSUE CENTER STRONGLY OF SB
FORTY THREE. I'M NOT IN THE AREA
AND EXTRA OPPOSE AS FOUR IS
THREE YOU SAID THE WORD. I'M A
COLLEGE AND I OPPOSE IT BEFORE
AS THREE. HI I'M BE A MOBILE I
WAS IS AS IT MORE THE WORK
COMPLETE FROM THE. HELLO I WAS
SO HAS ANY IDEA DIG SB. FOUR
ZERO THREE. NAMASTE MODELING
FROM DIXON I JUST OPPOSE SB OH
THREE. I'M SUNDEEP REPRESENTING
IN FOR FAIR TREATMENT OF THE LAW
I REJECT SB ZERO THREE REGION
COUNCILS NOW. NAMASTE MY NAME IS
MORE I'M I MISSPOKE FOR TOO MANY
SENATE I WAS NOT BASICALLY
NEUTRAL AS BEFORE. NAMASTE
COMING THE PERCENT. I'M A PLACE
THIS OF THE IN A THE NEEDY I
OPPOSE THIS IS BEFORE THE THREE.
HI MY NAME IS A WITH THE FROM
JOSE STRONG SAY NO TO ANY WITH
THE CAST THANK YOU. THE MOST SHE
SHOULD HAVE FROM JOSE TO KIDS I
STRONGLY OPPOSE THE THEN AS.
FOUR ZERO. I'M JUST GOING
THROUGH MY- A STRONG OPPOSE THE
WORK. USE ANSYS INSTEAD. I'M
THEIR MISTRUST FOR COOPER TO CAL
I YOUR AS BEFORE. J. HAVE TO GO
TO HOME. LEVERAGING WAS WITH. HI
SO AS THE C. FROM SAN CLARA
STRONG OPPOSE AS WE ZERO TWO.
HEY MY NAME NOT ENOUGH- I'M FROM
GREECE AS FOR OPPOSE THIS BILL
THANK YOU. HI MY NAME IS MADHU
REMIND SAN MORNING PRESENTING A
FUNDING SIX I STRONG OPPOSED SB
A THREE AND I. AND MARIE FROM
LOS DISTRICT I STRONG IT WAS.
I'M FROM FREMONT THE LADY THINK
IF YOU CAN DO. I'M I'M NOT NOW
SO I IT IS IT GAS STORED. I
THINK DO A PEOPLE WE CAN BE DONE
WITH. I AM THE MAN FOR
PLEASANTON REPRESENT THE FAMILY
OF SIX I NO TO THIS BEFORE ZERO
THREE THANK YOU. HI SETTLED UP
HEY I WANT TO SAY NOT NOR DO
WATER YES FOR THE. MAYBE IT'S A
POVERTY I'M SAYING WAS. TWO FOR
THREE FOR THREE.
THREE I SIGNAL TO SB FORTY TO
THIRTY THANK YOU. HI AM SEEM OF
IT FROM SANTA CLARA PRESENTING A
FAMILY OF FIVE I SAY NORMAL TO
AS BEFORE- THREE. HI PROFESSOR
JERRY SIMMONS I STRONGLY OPPOSE
THIS BILL THANK YOU.
PARTY FROM SOME OF IT AT A FROM
THE FAMILY OF TWO I SAID NO TO
THE PHOTO THREE AS THE FORTY.
HEY I'M SUNDAY BROUGHT FROM
ROSEVILLE CAL I OPPOSE SB FOUR
OH THREE AND THE WORD CAST THANK
YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON AND IT IS
DOCTOR BOSTON OF ANYBODY I'M
FROM SACRAMENTO A FAMILY OF
THREE NO DO IT FOR THE RIDLEY
NOTE CAST. WE DID FROM SAN DIEGO
THIS VILLAGE DISK IT'S AND I AM
NOT FOR ME. MY NAME IS YOU KNOW
THAT I AM OUT FOR THE NORTH CASH
NORTH PROVIDING NOBODY IT. MY
NAME IS SHYAM CHAUDHARY I AM CO
TWO CAN COOPER AND I REPRESENT
B. R. FOUNDATION OF SIXTEEN
HUNDRED PEOPLE EIGHT I STRONGLY
OPPOSE SB FOUR ZERO THREE
DISCUSSED IS THE. I AM SOO
HOUSING FROM SAN JOSE AND I
OPPOSE THIS BILL. MY NAME IS
CERAMI IN IRAQ I'M FROM FREMONT
CALIFORNIA FAMILY A PRESENT A
FAMILY OF SIX EASY MOVE THE WORD
BECAUSE FROM THE BILL IT'S THIS.
I STRONGLY. I AM MINUS A FUN CAL
. I JUST OF THESE DEVIOUS VERY.
THANK I IT SOONER SAID. STRONGLY
OPPOSE THIS BILL THIS BILL
CORRECT. ZERO ZERO THREE ZERO.
IN THE COMMUNITY IN THE- NO ONE
IS FOR BOTH ON. HI THIS IS RENEE
FROM SECOND I STRONGLY OPPOSED
PORT THREE NO COST. MY NAME IS
MODEL MONDAY PRESIDENT OF
SECULAR IT FAMILY OF. I STRONGLY
OPPOSE THIS BILL THANK YOU. I'M
GOOD HAVE ALL. FROM RAMON THE
FAMILY OF FOUR AYE OPPOSED AS
BEFORE ZERO THREE. GOOD
AFTERNOON AND ON THE- LET'S
OPPOSES THANK YOU. MILLION MARK
ONE LAST JOSE OF AND PLACE
BEFORE THE TO. I'M BOB NOTHING
FREMONT SAY NOTE IT BEFORE ZERO
THREE. I AM JASON FROM
PLEASANTON STRONG NOTICE BEFORE
. TWO TO THREE. HI A PERSON NOT
FROM SAN JOSE FAMILY- FOR A
STRONG ORDER IS BEFORE THANK YOU
. HELLO EVERYONE I AM I'M NOT
THE FROM SAN RAMON TO PROTECTING
FAMILY UP FOR A STRONG NO FOR
THIS WELL AS DISCRIMINATORY. HI
NAME IS ON THERE I TO PRESS A
KIND OF NICE AND I'M OF FOUR I
REJECT COMES AS A ON THE WOULD.
HI MY NAME IS SPECIAL AND I'M
FROM CALIFORNIA SO I THE CHECK
IS BE THE AND NOT. HELLO MY NAME
IS RITESH TANDON I PERCENT ARE.
ICE OPPOSE FIVE TO DO BILL WHICH
RACIALLY. AND. I NEED YOU TO BE
. BY THE COURT PROCESS THANK YOU
. HELLO MY NAME IS THERE'S BEEN
FROM CLARA. I OPPOSE SB A THREE
THANK YOU. HELLO I AM A BUILT
AREA I STRONG UP. SB. ZERO
THREE. HELLO NINE PM A STAND I
STRONGLY OPPOSE SB THREE. HOW
I'M CHASING THE SUN FROM SENATE
AND I STRONGLY AND BEFORE IS A
THREE. HELLO I AM THE FOR
MOUNTAIN HOUSE COMING A STRONG
OPPOSE IS FOR THREE THANK YOU.
HELLO I LAKSHMAN AND ON BEHALF
OF THE U. WE ALL UP CLOSE SB
FOUR THREE. HELLO I'M LUXURY
UNIVERSITY STUDENT AND I
STRONGLY OPPOSE SB FOUR ZERO
THREE. HI MY NAME IS A POOR VAN
AND HERE'S UNIVERSITY STUDENT AS
WELL AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE AS
BEFORE THREE THANK YOU. HI MY
NAME IS SANDEEP THIS MONDAY I'M
FROM BRAZIL CALIFORNIA AND I
STRONGLY OPPOSED TO THE FOUR
THREE. I'M LAKSHMI AYE YOU'RE
FROM SAN JOSE CALIFORNIA AND I
STRONGLY OPPOSE SB FOUR ZERO
THREE SIX. MY NAME IS AMOL ARE
NOW FROM OUR ONE SPECIAL NEEDS
VETERANS GROUP AND I STRONGLY
OPPOSED AS BEFORE SIMPLY. I'M
JIM OF FROM FOR SOME IN THE
COMMUNITY AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE-
AS BEFORE ZERO THREE AND CAST IT
. I AM JIGAR SHAH I FROM FREMONT
AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE AS BEFORE
ZERO THREE. MY NAME IS FAIR
ENOUGH MONEY I AM FROM ROTARY I
STRONGLY OPPOSED SB PORT UTILITY
. HI MY NAME IS DAVID NAME IS
DEEP SINGH FROM YOUR I STRONGLY
OPPOSE SB FORTY. HI MY NAME IS A
GREAT SHOT ON THE GOAL I
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL. HI MY
NAME IS A CABLE SENT FROM ANTICA
IS MY VOTERS IN THOSE POINTS BE
WATER. HELLO MY NAME IS JUSTIN
THE BUSING. I AM CENTROLEGAL
MODE FOR. SB PHOTO THREE. HELLO
I'M ARE THE COLOSSAL CHOPRA
FORMER IRVINE STRONGLY OPPOSE AS
HE FOUR ZERO THREE AND THE. HI
MY NAME IS PULVINAR MAHI ICE
STRONGLY OPPOSED THE BILL SB
FOUR ZERO THREE. HI MY NAME IS
MICHAEL SINGLE. I'M STRONGLY
OPPOSED SB. FOUR THREE. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH THAT CONCLUDES OUR
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION- TURNING
TO THE COMMITTEE THERE ANY
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM MANY
. OKAY THE- THANK YOU HAVE A
MOTION FROM MCKENNA. SECOND FROM
IS REST. NICK. OKAY SEE NOW SEE
MISTER CAR. THANK YOU OF MR
SHARE THANK YOU TO EVERYONE THAT
HAS COME OUT TODAY- THE OVER A
HUNDRED SEVENTY TWO YEARS OF THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA AND ONLY
ENDED EVER SERVE IN THE
CALIFORNIA LEGISLATURE SO I KNOW
THERE'S A LOT OF. EYES AND EARS
ON. ON ME AND THIS IS DEFINITELY
NOT BEEN EASY FOR ANY OF US
ACCORDING TO CHAIR HIS STAFF AND
THE AUTHORED EVERYONE THAT'S
WORKED REALLY HARD TO TRY TO
LISTEN TO EVERYONE. AND DO THEIR
BEST TO REPRESENT THEIR
COMMUNITIES AND THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA- I DID HAVE I KNOW A
COUPLE OF- QUESTION REASONS WHY
THE OPPORTUNITY FOR EITHER THE
AUTHOR OR- THE- OF WITNESSES FOR
THE AUTHORED OPPORTUNITY EXPERTS
TO KIND OF DESCRIBE. I HAD TO US
WHY- ABOUT THERE WAS A
SUGGESTION THAT WE CAN JUST USE
INHERITED. STOP- HERE TO SOCIAL
STATUS AS TO WHY THAT. WHY THAT
IS NOT ACCEPTABLE VERSUS USING
CAST DEFINITELY. AFFECT NOT. THE
WORD CAST IS INCREDIBLY
IMPORTANT TO UTILIZE HERE
PRIMARILY BECAUSE THIS IS THE
SYSTEM OF DISCRIMINATION THAT WE
WANT TO FIGHT AGAINST. IT IS
JUST AS IMPORTANT AS USING THE
WORD GENDER OR RACE OR AGE OR
ANYTHING LIKE THAT THAT IS WHY
IT IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO
USE THE WORD CAST AND ITS
DEFINITION. AND THERE WAS
MENTION OF THE MOTION WITH THE
AMENDMENTS THAT- I BELIEVE LOSE.
THAT MEMBERS OF CAST INTO THE-
UNDER THE ANCESTRY- CATEGORY-
AND. BASED UPON THE FEEDBACK
I'VE GOTTEN PEOPLE GENERALLY I
THINK I THINK THEY'LL BE SOME
FOLKS BODY ON BOTH SIDES AREN'T
TOO HAPPY ABOUT THAT NESSES OF
THAT RESOLUTION AND SOMETIMES A
MAKING LEGISLATION. WHEN BOTH
SIDES AREN'T AREN'T EXACTLY
HAPPY SOMETIMES THE LANDING
PLACE THAT WE END UP AT SOMETIME
YOU KNOW. END UP AT TO TRY TO
UNDERSTAND. THAT AT THE END OF
THE DAY IT'S NOT A PERFECT
PROCESS BUT IT'S A PROCESS WE'RE
TRYING TO SEEK JUSTICE- YOU KNOW
I. FAITH IS A VERY COMMUNAL
THING BUT IT'S ALSO VERY
PERSONAL. I GREW UP INTO AND
READ THE GITA. I HAVE SPENT MY
ENTIRE ADULT LIFE SERVING THE
COMMUNITY BASED UPON WHAT I
LEARNED I WAS TAUGHT TO ME. AND
MY FAMILY. SO IT IS VERY
PERSONAL TO ME- TO THINK ABOUT
AND KIND OF AND IT'S SAD TO SEE
SO MUCH DIVISION. IN MY
COMMUNITY AND IN OUR CALIFORNIA
COMMUNITY OVERS OVER SOMETHING
THAT IS VERY PERSONAL TO
EVERYONE THAT SPOKE HERE TODAY.
I GET THAT WITH YOUR FOR AGAINST
IS SOMETHING MEANINGFUL TO YOU
FOR A REASON PERSONAL TO YOU-
BUT- ULTIMATELY YOU KNOW THE
THERE ARE. THERE'S CERTAIN
THINGS WE MUST DO I THINK AS A
STATE. OF TO PROTECT EVERYONE
OUR STATE NOW UNDERSTANDING THAT
THERE IS A LEGITIMATE LEGAL
QUESTIONS THAT ARE LIKELY GOING
TO BE ANSWERED IN THE COURT
SYSTEM. I PASSED A LOT OF
LEGISLATION THE RACIAL JUSTICE I
CAN GO ON AND ON THAT. I
BELIEVED IN THAT IS BEING
CURRENTLY CHALLENGE IN THE LEGAL
SYSTEM. MOTHERS DEFINITIONS
WHETHER IT'S IN THE REACH OR
SCOPE OF THE LEGISLATION. AND I
BELIEVE THAT'S THE APPROPRIATE
PLACE FOR A LOT OF THOSE
QUESTIONS UP TO BE HEARD. I
THINK THE AMENDMENTS AS OFFERED
BY THE CHAIR- OFFER A VERY
REASONABLE RESOLUTION OF THIS I
DO THINK THAT- THE AUTHOR DID
TAKE I'VE EVEN EVEN WHEN I'VE
SPOKEN TO THE- OPPOSITION'S
OFFICE TAKING NINETY FIVE
PERCENT. OF THE SUGGESTED
AMENDMENTS SHORT OF REMOVING THE
WORD CASTLE I UNDERSTAND I'M NOT
NAIVE I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT IS
VERY CLEAR THE OPPOSITION WANTS
THAT WORD. REMOVED BUT SHORT OF
THAT I THINK EVERYTHING. THAT
HAS BEEN DONE- YOU KNOW HAS A
CAR HAS ACCOMMODATED MANY OF THE
CONCERNS THAT ARE RAISING
CONCERNS THAT I HAD. A IN TERMS
OF DESCRIPTIONS WHAT HAVE YOU
THINGS THAT I TALK TO THE AUTHOR
ABOUT WITH THE OTHER LEGISLATORS
ABOUT. BUT ULTIMATELY IT COMES
DOWN TO ENSURING. THAT WE'RE
DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO
PROTECT EVERYONE IN OUR STATE
AND IF THIS FALLS SHORT OF THAT.
AS THE OPPOSITION BELIEVES. THEN
WE'RE GONNA THAT'S GOING TO BE
DETERMINED BY THE COURTS TO TELL
US NO CALIFORNIA YOU GOT IT
WRONG. I DON'T THINK WE GOT IT
WRONG. I DO THINK THAT
ULTIMATELY- WE WANT TO MAKE SURE
THAT EVERYONE IS PROTECTED NOW
THAT BEING SAID I DO AGREE THAT
THERE SHOULD NOT. BE ANY GROUPS
THAT ARE TARGETED IN ANY LAW.
YOU KNOW WHETHER IT'S HINDUS
WHETHER IT'S A SEARCH SOUTH
ASIANS THERE SHOULD BE NO LAW
THAT SAYS THAT SPECIFICALLY
TARGETS ONE GROUP OVER THE OTHER
AND SO AS THIS. LEGISLATION
MOVES FORWARD SO WHAT DO I THINK
ALL OF US SHOULD. KIND OF BE IT
ENSURE THAT IT'S BEING. PUT
FORWARD AS INTENDED NOT AS
TARGETING ANY ONE GROUP- AND IF
IT'S SHOWN. OTHERWISE SHOWN
THAT'LL BE UP TO THE COURTS
OTHER INTERPRETER FOR US TO ACT
ACCORDINGLY- MOVING FORWARD BUT-
FROM WHERE THIS LEGISLATION
BEGAN TO WHERE IT IS NOW. I
CERTAINLY THINK IT'S A MUCH
IMPROVED PIECE OF LEGISLATION.
THANKS TO THE WORK OF THE AUTHOR
AND SO MANY LEGISLATORS
INCLUDING THE- OTHER COMMITTEE.
THAT TIME ENGAGE ON THIS- AND.
SO YOU KNOW IT'S I JUST WANTED
TO. YOU CAN TRY TOM- ALL I
WANTED TO SPEAK ON THIS BECAUSE
NOT EASY FOR ME- THIS IS MY
COMMUNITY THAT I'M SEEING YOU
KNOW TERRY OTHER UP AND SO MEDIA
AND ONLINE- GETTING A LOT OF
HEAT FROM BOTH SIDES A LOT OF
LOVE FROM BOTH SIDES WHATEVER IT
MIGHT BE- BUT- BUT I HAVE HEARD.
FROM BOTH SIDES. IS A COMMITMENT
TO HEALING. AND I WANT TO SEE
AND TAKE UP AND THOSE SHAKING
THEIR HEAD NO CONSTRUCTOR HAS NO
WHAT I'M SAYING IS I'VE HEARD
FROM BOTH SIDES THAT REGARDLESS
WHAT HAPPENS. THERE WILL BE A
HAVE TO BE AT SOME POINT SOME
COMMITMENT TO HEALING. AND IF.
IF FOLKS WERE SINCERE. BEFORE
THIS BILL WAS HEARD ABOUT THAT
HOPE THEY'RE SINCERE AFTER THIS
BILL IS HEARD- ABOUT HEALING THE
COMMUNITY I'M CERTAINLY
COMMITTED TO DO WHAT I CAN. TO
BE A PART OF THAT IF FOLKS WANT
ME TO BE PART OF THAT. OTHERWISE
YOU KNOW BOTH OF THE REALITY IS
THAT WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY
TO LIVE WITH ANOTHER- UP TO LOVE
ONE ANOTHER AND I UNDERSTAND
THAT THESE LEGAL ISSUES CAN BE
VERY COMPLEX ESPECIALLY IN THE
WORKPLACE. WE HAVE A LOT OF
OTHER. OF CLASSIFICATIONS THAT
MAKE IT VERY COMPLICATED TO BE
AN HR DIRECTOR. HI IN THIS
STATE. AND IN THIS COUNTRY I'M
SURE. SOME FOLKS. IN AS I WOULD
AGREE. THE A LOT OF THINGS THAT
MAKE IT. FAIRLY CALM- AND WE
HAVE TO WORK THROUGH THOSE
THINGS AND IT'S HARD TO WORK.
THROUGH THOSE THINGS. JUST
BECAUSE IT'S DIFFICULT DOESN'T
MEAN WE SHOULDN'T DO THAT
DIFFICULT WORK- AND SO- I REALLY
DO APPRECIATE EVERYONE THAT.
CAME OUT TODAY REGARDLESS OF
WHAT POSITION. YOU TAKE A
LEGISLATION AGAIN I WANT TO
THANK THE CHAIR OF THE
COMMITTEE. I DO THINK THE
AMENDMENTS MAKE IT A BETTER.
PIECE LEGISLATION INCLUDING. THE
A MEMBERS OF THE AUTHOR TOOK
PRIOR TO THIS COMMITTEE HEARING.
AND REMOVING SOME OF THE
LANGUAGE- THAT WAS THAT THAT WAS
DEEMED OFFENSIVE BY SOME OF
THOSE IN THE OPPOSITION- AND SO.
YOU KNOW WITH THAT- I'LL BE
SUPPORTING THE BILL TODAY- BUT-
HOPE. THAT UP AT SOME POINT- IT
IN THE FUTURE UP HOPEFULLY
SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. THERE
CAN BE SOME WORK ON ON PEACE
RECONCILIATION. THANK YOU. MISS
REST. THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR.
THERE WERE WHEN I. WITH THE
COMMUNITY AND MY- THERE'S SOME
MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY WHO ARE
OPPOSED TO THE BILL OF COURSE I
MET WITH THOSE WHO ARE IN FAVOR.
THOSE WHO OPPOSED THEY HAD A
NUMBER OF QUESTIONS THERE'S ONE
QUESTION. THAT I DID WANT TO ASK
OF THE AUTHOR. IT WHO WILL BE
DEFINING THE TERMS. THAT ARE
LISTED IN THE IN THE BILL. WELL
THE S. EXPERTS BE. WHICH TERM DO
YOU MEAN SPECIFICALLY. WHAT IT
IT IN THE END THE QUESTION THEY
TALK ABOUT THE TERMS THAT-
OPPRESSED TO OPPRESSOR CAST. IS
ANOTHER ONE- THE CREW WILL
DEFINE THE WORDS. THOSE
PARTICULAR WORDS ARE NOT
UTILIZED IN THE BILL EXCEPT FOR
CAST- SO I WOULD NEED A LITTLE
BIT MORE CONTEXT AS TO WHAT
THEY'RE SPECIFICALLY ASKING.
VERY GOOD. THE OTHER THANK YOU
FOR THAT. THE OTHER THING IS
THAT I APPRECIATED THE COMMENTS
OF THE OPPOSITION BUT ONE
SENTENCE THAT WAS VERY IMPORTANT
TO ME AND I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF
JOINING A DELEGATION WITH MY
COLLEAGUES. TO INDIA IN TWO
THOUSAND EIGHTEEN AND LEARNED SO
MUCH MORE ABOUT THE CASTE SYSTEM
AND SO MUCH ABOUT THE BEAUTY OF
INDIA AND THOSE THINGS THAT ARE
NOT TO THE BEAUTY OF INDIA BUT
THE COMMENT THAT WAS MADE. IS
THAT CAST ISN'T UGLY DISEASE IN
INDIA THAT HASN'T COME TO OUR
COUNTRY. AND IT APPEARED JUST AS
THOUGH ESPECIALLY FROM THOSE IN
THE OPPOSITION THAT IT HAS COME
TO OUR COUNTRY AND IF INDEED IT
HAS BEEN IT IS IMPORTANT TO
RECOGNIZE THAT AND TO MAKE SURE
AS MY COLLEAGUE HAS SAID. THAT
WE PROTECT EVERYBODY AND
WHATEVER LEGAL ISSUES REMAIN
THOSE HAVE TO BE DECIDED AND
THEY PROBABLY WILL BE DECIDED BY
OUR COURTS. AND SO I WILL BE
SUPPORTING THE BILL TODAY. ANY
OTHER QUESTIONS ARE FROM THE
COMMITTEE. SCENE NINE I WANT TO
THANK ALL THE PEOPLE WHO
PARTICIPATED HERE TODAY IT WAS A
MODEL OF HOW TO PEOPLE SHOULD
CONDUCT THEMSELVES- RESPECTFUL
IN TONE- AND MUCH APPRECIATED BY
EVERYBODY WHO- PARTICIPATOR
TODAY I WANT TO THANK THE
COMMITTEE- PARTICULAR COMMITTEE
STAFF FOR THEIR HARD WORK ON
THIS AS WELL- AND- WITHOUT. THE
AUTHOR YOU MAY CLOSE THANK YOU-
ONE NIGHT I DO WANT TO THANK
EVERY SINGLE INDIVIDUAL THAT HAS
SPOKEN THEIR TRUTH TO POWER-
BOTH OPPONENTS AS WELL AS THOSE
WHO SUPPORT THE BILL- I'M VERY
PROUD OF THIS BILL THIS BILL
WAS. SOMETHING THAT HAS- BEEN.
BROUGHT UP IN SO MANY DIFFERENT
WAYS AND SO MANY DIFFERENT
CONVERSATIONS BUT CASTE
DISCRIMINATION IS REAL. IT IS
HAPPENING WE HAVE LITERALLY
HUNDREDS UPON HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE
THAT HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT IN MY
DISTRICT AS WELL AS HAVE COMMON
TESTIFIED HAVE EMAILED YOU HAVE
CALLED YOU HAVE TALKED TO YOUR
STAFF- AND NO ONE CIVIL RIGHTS
SHOULD BE MADE INTO A POLITICAL
PLAYING FIELD- I DO WANT TO SAY
THAT. WE IN THIS BILL EXPLICITLY
ADDRESS CASTE DISCRIMINATION ARE
WE HAVE TAKEN THE APPROPRIATE
AMENDMENTS WE HAVE CONSISTENTLY
TRIED TO IMPROVE THE BILL- AND I
DO WANT TO SAY THAT CAST IS NOT
JUST PART OF ONE COMMUNITY WE
STATED THIS VERY EARLY ON IT IS
NOT PART OF IT A SINGLE RELIGION
IT DOES NOT- IT'S NOT. JUST FOR
ONE PEOPLE IT IS LITERALLY
SPREAD OUT ACROSS AND ONE OF
OUR- LEGAL WITNESSES HI THAT'S
NOT HERE RIGHT NOW. OFTEN
UTILIZES THE SYSTEM OF CASTE
WHEN REFERENCING WHAT WAS
DISCUSSED. BY THE L. A. CITY
COUNCIL MEMBERS- JUST MONTHS
AGO. SPECIFICALLY ABOUT OUT WHAT
HAWKINS. AND AGAIN THAT IS NOT.
YOU KNOW TALK ABOUT AND YOU DID
NOT SEE THAT- HERE BUT THAT IS
ALSO A CASTE SYSTEM. WE HAVE A
ACROSS THE WORLD AND IN THIS
COUNTRY I BELIEVE WHOLEHEARTEDLY
THAT REGARDLESS OF WHERE YOU
COME FROM. WHO YOU PRAY TO WHO
YOU LOVE. THE CALIFORNIA DREAMIN
AMERICAN DREAM SHOULD BE EQUAL
TO ALL PEOPLE. SO I WANT TO
THANK MY WITNESSES FOR SHARING
THEIR LIVED EXPERIENCE THERE.
ARE TESTIMONY AND- EVERYBODY
THAT HAS FOLLOWED THIS
PARTICULAR BILL I APPRECIATE THE
COMMITMENT OF EVERY SINGLE
LEGISLATOR. IN THIS BUILDING
THAT HAS WORKED IN HEARD AND MET
WITH SO MANY PEOPLE. AND I HOPE
THAT. WITH THIS BILL MOVING
FORWARD IN TWO. ASSEMBLY MEMBER
KALRA AS POINTS IT'S NOT EXACTLY
WHAT WE ALWAYS WANT. BUT IT IS A
LOT OF CONVERSATION. AND
NEGOTIATION AND I DO NOT WANT TO
DELAY JUSTICE ANY FURTHER FOR
THESE PEOPLE. SO WITHOUT I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN AYE VOTE
THANK YOU THANK YOU. THE MOTION
IS TO PASS AS AMENDED TO THE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE ASK THE
COURT TO PLEASE CALL THE ROLL
MENTION HI MAIENSCHEIN AYE
CONNELLY. CONLEY I DIXON. HANEY
ANY AYE KALRA. KALRA I'VE CHECK
OUT. THE CHECK- I HAPPEN. HAPPEN
I REYES. REYES AYE SANCHEZ.
SANCHEZ I'M BEGINNER. THE BILL
IS OUT. THANK YOU. AS AS WHERE
PEOPLE LEAVE LEAVE AS YOU X. THE
ROOM PLEASE ACCEPT. AT A FOR
MOTION ON THE CAN AGENDA.
MOTIONS. MOST FROM MISS REYES.
SECOND FROM KALRA AS A CLERK TO
BE CALL THE- OUT. SHE.
IT'S. THANK YOU.
OKAY WE HAVE A MOTION AND A
SECOND ON THE CONSENT AGENDA
CONSENT AGENDA INCLUDES SB TWO
THIRTY FIVE I'M BURKE SB TWO
SEVENTY ONE DIED SB FOUR FIFTY
FIVE MCGUIRE SB FIVE FIFTY RUBIO
AND SB SIX NINETY NINE CABALLERO
ACEKARD TO PLEASE CALL THE ROLL
MAIENSCHEIN AYE MENTION AYE
CONNELLY CONNELLY HI DIXON. THIS
IS CONSENT. THE EX AND I HANEY.
HANEY I CALL. KALRA I'VE CHECK
UP THE CHECK I HAPPEN. HAPPEN I
REYES REYES I STAND CHEN SANCHEZ
I'M BEGINNER. BEGINNER CONSENT
IS OUT ITEM NUMBER TWO SB FIFTY
FOUR SKINNER. SENATE HEARING.
EUROPE.
THANK YOU I MISSED YOUR MEMBERS-
I'M HERE TO PRESENT SB FIFTY
FOUR. THE PURPOSE OF WHICH IS TO
ADD THE GOAL IS TO INCREASE THE
DIVERSITY OF OUR VENTURE CAPITAL
INVESTMENTS IN THE TYPE OF START
UPS THE INVESTED I WANT TO-
FIRST OPEN WITH I AM ACCEPTING
THE COMMITTEES AMENDMENTS THERE
BASED ON TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE
RECEIVED FROM THE CIVIL RIGHTS
STATE CIVIL RIGHTS DEPARTMENT
AND THAT IS THE OFFICE THAT. OUR
INTENTION IS WOULD IMPLEMENT
DOOR YEAH BE RESPONSIBLE FOR
ADMINISTERING THE BILL. IF IT IS
SUCCESSFULLY UP PUT INTO LAW.
I'M. IN THIS IS NOT JUST FIGURES
FOR CALIFORNIA BUT ACROSS THE U.
S. VENTURE CAPITAL INVESTMENTS
ARE GOING TO ONLY CERTAIN START
UPS. FEMALE FOUNDED STARTUPS IN
TWENTY TWENTY RECEIVED ONLY TWO
POINT 3% OF ALL VENTURE CAPITAL
INVESTMENTS AND UNFORTUNATELY
THAT NUMBER DROPPED TO ONE POINT
7% IN TWENTY TWENTY TO. AND IN
TWENTY TWENTY TWO BLACK START
UPS RECEIVED TWO POINT 6% OF ALL
VENTURE CAPITAL INVESTMENTS
LATINO START UPS ONLY ZERO POINT
SIX. NOT EVEN A PERCENT. THIS
LACK OF DIVERSITY IN THE CAPITAL
THAT INVESTS IN STARTUPS IS
NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES FOR THE
ECONOMY FIRST THERE'S LOTS OF
RESEARCH THAT SHOWS THAT. ON
WHEN INVESTORS INVEST IN MORE
DIVERSE START UPS THEY GET A
HIGHER RETURN ON YOUR INVESTMENT
ADDITIONALLY. THIS CREATES A
LIMITED OPPORTUNITY FOR
BUSINESSES OWNED BY WOMEN AND
MINORITIES TO ACCESS CAPITAL AND
AS WE ALL KNOW CAPITAL IS THE
LIFEBLOOD OF YOUR SHIRT. WHAT SB
FIFTY FOUR DOES IS SIMPLY ASK
THE VENTURE CAPITAL FIRMS
OPERATING IN CALIFORNIA TO
REPORT TO THE OFFICE OF CIVIL
RIGHTS OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS
DEPARTMENT EVERY YEAR JUST THE
DIVERSITY FAIR VC INVESTMENTS
THERE'S NO THE REQUIREMENT ON
THEM. AND THEN THAT REPORT WOULD
BE MADE PUBLIC. AND HOPEFULLY
THROUGH THAT TRANSPARENCY. THEY
WOULD BEGIN TO IMPROVE THEIR
INVESTMENTS SO I HAVE WITH ME MY
WITNESSES ARE MARQUITA FRIEND
VENTURE IS THE FOUNDING MEMBER
OF THE FI'S COLLECTIVE IN THE F.
FIVE COLLECTED IS A- COLLECTIVE
OF VARIOUS VC FIRMS THAT ARE
MOSTLY WOMEN OWNED WOMEN AND
MINORITY OWNED AND THEY'RE
FOCUSED ON INVESTING. IN WOMEN
AND UNDERREPRESENTED START UPS
AND ALSO ALISON BUYERS WHO IS
THE FOUNDER AND CEO OF SCROOBIUS
WHICH I THINK IS ALSO A MEMBER
OF THE APART FOR. COLLABORATORS
COLLAB ANYWAY I'M WELL MY WITH
THE TO BE YOU MAY PROCEED. GOOD
AFTERNOON MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS
WATCHING. I THANK YOU FOR HAVING
ME TODAY I'M I'M HERE
REPRESENTING MYSELF THE F. FIVE
COLLECTIVE OF VENTURE CAPITAL
FUNDS BACKING. FEMALE FOUNDERS
OF WHICH I AM CHIEF INVESTMENT
OFFICER AND FOUNDING PARTNER
IMPERIUM IN EQUITY CROWDFUNDING
PORTAL AIMED AT CREATING A
GREATER POOL OF DIVERSE
INVESTORS BY ALLOWING START UPS
TO RAISE FROM THEIR OWN
COMMUNITIES. BOTH THESE VENTURES
WERE CREATED DIRECTLY AT TO
ADDRESS- WERE CREATED TO ADDRESS
THE LACK OF FUNDING FOR FEMALE
FOUNDERS AND FOUNDERS OF COLOR
PROBLEM THAT WE'VE KNOWN TO BE
REAL AND TACK FOR ANY VENTURE
FOR FOUR DECADES. CURRENTLY WE
ARE EXPERIENCING IN OTHER
OBLITERATION OF FUNDING FOR
WOMEN AND PEOPLE OF COLOR.
BEFORE THE PANDEMIC FEMALE
FOUNDERS RECEIVES AN ALREADY
PALTRY TWO POINT 6% OF ALL
VENTURE FUNDING. AFTER THE
PANDEMIC THE PANDEMIC THAT
NUMBER FELL TO ONE POINT 9% IN
FOR BLACK FOUNDERS IT WAS LESS
THAN 1% THESE NUMBERS THESE
NUMBERS ARE NOT JUST BAD THEY
ARE DOWNRIGHT PREJUDICIAL. I SIT
HERE BEFORE YOU TODAY IN AN
ATTEMPT TO URGENTLY ADDRESS AN
ISSUE THAT WILL UNDOUBTEDLY HAVE
GENERATIONAL FACTS AND ACCESS.
OPPORTUNITY AND WEALTH. WITHOUT
DIVERSE FOUNDERS AND LEADERSHIP
WE CAN EXPECT TEAMS TO BE LESS
IVERSON ALSO FOR THE PRODUCTS
AND SERVICES THAT THEIR
COMPANIES MAKE. TO FALL SHORT OF
MEETING THE NEEDS OF A DIVERSE
CONSUMER MARKET. AS A FOUNDER
WHO IS FEMALE AND OF AFRICAN
AMERICAN AND FILIPINO DESCENT
THAT POLL THAT TOTAL POOL OF
VENTURE CAPITAL FUNDING THAT IS
AVAILABLE TO ME. ACCORDING TO
THE DATA IS LESS THAN HALF OF A
PERCENT AND I REALLY HAVE TO
PAUSE AND SAY THAT AGAIN. TO LET
IT SINK IN THAT'S LESS THAN A
HALF OF PERCENT OF ALL TOTAL
VENTURE CAPITAL. FUNDING THAT
WILL BE AVAILABLE TO ME. AND
THOSE LIKE ME. DESPITE THE DATA
VENTURE CAPITALIST INDUSTRY
CONTINUES TO BELIEVE THEY FUND
FOUNDERS BASED OFF MERIT. NOT
UNDERSTANDING THAT BIAS BOTH
UNCONSCIOUS AND CONSCIOUS MAYBE
INFLUENCING THEIR BEHAVIOR. EVEN
WITHIN THEIR OWN DEAL SOURCING
INTELLIGENCE PROCESS SEES. WHAT
THESE NUMBERS FALSELY IMPLIES
THAT FUNDING A FOUNDER THAT
LOOKS LIKE ME IS A FORM OF
PHILANTHROPY. AND NOT A REAL
DISRUPTED AND RETURNS GENERATING
OPPORTUNITY. IT ALSO
COMMUNICATES LITTLE GIRLS AND
CHILDREN AND CHILDREN OF COLOR.
THAT THEIR IDEAS ARE WORTHLESS
THAT THEIR PASSION FOR
PIONEERING INNOVATION AND
INNOVATION IS A FEEL GOOD SENSE.
ADDITIONALLY WE KNOW THAT
DIVERSE TEAMS GENERATE HIGHER
RETURNS THAN NON DIVERSE TEAMS
BECAUSE OF THEIR DIVERSE BECAUSE
OF THEIR DIVERSITY OF LIVED
EXPERIENCES. AND THAT THEY ALLOW
THEM TO SEE PROBLEMS FROM DOING
ANY TO WRAP UP THEIR FOR
ALLOWING THEM. TO CREATE THE
BEST SOLUTIONS. SO I URGE YOU TO
SUPPORT SB FIFTY FOUR TODAY AND
TO HELP US GATHER THE TOOLS
NECESSARY TO MAKE INFORMED
DECISIONS ON EQUITY
ENTREPRENEURSHIP. AND VENTURE
CAPITAL THANK YOU THANK YOU. ANY
R. K. ANY OTHER WITNESSES AND
SUPPORT. SECOND UP OKAY YES GO
AHEAD. WHAT I THOUGHT I JUST. I
JUMP IN NO WORRIES. THANK YOU
THINK TERRY COMMITTEE MEMBERS
FOR LETTING ME HAS TO TODAY MY
NAY IS OUT BY AND THE- OF A TEXT
. UP CALLED SCROOBIUS. WE ARE IN
A AYE POWERED. THAT CONNECTS
FOUNDERS WITH INVESTORS WE'VE
HELPED OVER FIVE HUNDRED AND
FIFTY FOUNDERS THE MAJORITY OF
WHOM IDENTIFIES UNDER
REPRESENTED AT CREATE THEIR
PITCH MATERIAL FOR FUNDRAISING
AND WE'VE WITNESSED THE BIAS AND
INJUSTICE THAT THEY FACE IN THE
FUNDRAISING PROCESS. I HAVE
EXPERIENCE IS PERSONALLY MANY
TIMES AND IT IS WHY I STARTED
THIS COMPANY. SO WE SEE THIS IN
REFLECTED IN THE NUMBERS THAT
WE'VE ALL HEARD TODAY WHERE OF
THE TWO HUNDRED AND THIRTY EIGHT
BILLION DOLLARS OF VENTURE
CAPITAL ALLOCATED IN TWENTY
TWENTY TWO WOMEN GOT ONE POINT
7% OF THAT. BLACK FOUNDERS LESS
THAN A PERCENT BLACK WOMEN AT
LESS THAN ZERO POINT 35% OF THAT
MONEY. I CHALLENGE YOU TO FIND
ANOTHER INDUSTRY OR RESOURCE IN
OUR COUNTRY THAT HAS NOT LEVEL
OF DISPARITY. THIS DATA COMES
FROM TRUSTED SOURCES LIKE
PITCHFORK AND CRUNCHBASE YES
THEY RELY ON INDUSTRY PARTNERS
AND NEW SOURCES BECAUSE FUNDS
ARE NOT REQUIRED TO REPORT THEIR
DIVERSITY METRICS. AND DESPITE
AN INCREASE IN PUBLIC RHETORIC
EIGHT OUT OF TEN INVESTORS VIEW
THE FUNDING LANDSCAPE ADDS
BALANCED. THOSE INVESTORS ARE
GENERAL PARTNERS OF BONDS AND
THEY MANAGE MONEY THAT COMES
FROM IN DOWN MEN'S WEALTHY
INDIVIDUALS PENSIONS LIKE
CALPERS AND OTHER PRODUCE JERRY
BACKERS. IS THAT WHERE DOES
INVESTORS WANT THEIR MONEY GOING
. SO WE HAVE WITNESSED THE
POSITIVE IMPACT OF OTHER BILLS
THAT REQUIRE DATA REPORTING IN
AREAS LIKE BOARD COMPOSITION AND
DIVERSITY IN THE WORKPLACE. THIS
BILL TAKES A CRUCIAL STEP TOWARD
RECTIFYING THE INEQUITIES IN THE
FUNDING LANDSCAPE OF VENTURE
CAPITAL BY ESTABLISHING ACCURATE
MEASUREMENT AND PUBLIC
AVAILABILITY. THAT WILL FOSTER
ACCOUNTABILITY AND PROGRESS.
CALIFORNIA'S RESPONSIBLE I'M
RAPPIN ABOUT CALIFORNIA'S
RESPONSIBLE 436% OF U. S.
VENTURE FUNDING SO THIS WILL
HAVE A GLOBAL IMPACT. I AM GONNA
CLOSE NOW I'M TESTIFYING TODAY
BECAUSE THIS IS DEEPLY PERSONAL
TO ME THIS ISSUE AS A FEMALE
FOUNDER REPRESENTING A COMMUNITY
OF HUNDREDS OF UNDERREPRESENTED
ENTREPRENEURS AND I'M PROUD TO
SUPPORT SB FIFTY FOUR I HOPE YOU
WILL BE TO. THANK YOU FOR YOUR
TIME THANK YOU WITNESSES AND
SUPPORT NAME ORGANIZATION ONLY.
GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIR MEMBERS OF
THE COMMITTEE MY NAME IS DEREK
ALI AND I AM A SUPPORT CEO AND
FOUNDER OF ENGINEERS. THANK YOU
IN YOUR WITNESSES AND SUPPORT
SEEN NINE- ANY OTHER WITNESSES
ANY WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION.
SCENE NINE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS
FROM THE COMMITTEE MISS PAP.
SERVER THE IDEA- I JUST I WANT
TO ASK YOU SOME QUESTIONS
LOGISTICALLY ABOUT HOW IT WORKS-
SO THIS IS REPORTING ON
PERCENTAGES OF CLOSED DEALS IS
THAT RIGHT. INVESTMENTS ITS
VENTURE CAPITAL INVESTMENTS SO
IN THAT RESPECT YES CLOSE DEALS
BUT IT'S IT ISN'T CLOSE DEALS IN
TERMS OF THAT START UP ACTUALLY
STARTED UP BUT RATHER IT IS THE
REPORT FROM THE VENTURE
CAPITALIST IN TERMS OF THEIR THE
FIRM'S IN TERMS OF THEIR
INVESTMENTS. SO IT'S AN IS IT
DOLLARS OR IS IT NUMBER OF
INVESTMENTS MADE IT INSIDE IT'S
VARIETY DATA INCLUDING YOU KNOW
TOTAL DOLLARS INVESTED. THE
DEMOGRAPHICS OF THE FIRMS
INVESTED IN AND THE DOLLAR
AMOUNTS TO THOSE FIRMS OKAY
INSERTED A- FOLLOW UP JUST A
LITTLE BIT MORE IS IT TO THE TO-
SEE WHAT I'M WONDERING IS. ARE
THE PRESENTE ASIANS COMING AND
BEING REJECTED OR IS IT THEY'RE
JUST NOT COMING IN WHICH CASE
THIS AIN'T GONNA HURT I JUST
LIKE TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE DEALING
WITH. SURE IF YOU DON'T MIND
PERHAPS- WOULD YOU LIKE TO
ANSWER THAT QUESTION SURE YEAH.
WELL I THINK THE SPIRIT OF THE
BILL AS WE WOULD ALL LIKE TO
KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON- MR IS A
REAL LACK OF TRANSPARENCY IN ANY
OF THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU'RE
ASKING BECAUSE IT ISN'T
MANDATED. AND WHAT WE ARE SAYING
I CAN TELL YOU BASED ON DATA
THAT I'VE SEEN IT FROM ALL THE
REPORTS THAT ARE COMING OUT FROM
PRIVATE INSTITUTIONS WHO ARE
TAKING IT UPON THEMSELVES TO
MEASURE THIS. IS THERE ARE A LOT
OF MEETINGS THAT ARE BEING TAKEN
IT IS NOT AN ISSUE OF PEOPLE
GOING FOR FUNDING OR PITCHING
FOR FUNDING IN FACT BLACK WOMEN
ARE STARTING BUSINESSES FASTER
THAN ANY OTHER SEGMENT OF OUR
POPULATION. RECEIVE THE LOWEST
AMOUNT OF VENTURE FUNDING
THEY'RE NOT ACTUALLY GETTING THE
FUNDING I AND WE WANT TO MEASURE
IT RIGHT WE WANT TO ACTUALLY
HAVE SOME ACCURATE DATA HERE SO
THAT WE ALL KNOW WHAT'S GOING
ON. SO FAR CASE MAY BE OCHI
PERSONAL EXPERIENCE AND HER
PARTNER MEMBERS OF OUR
COLLECTIVE WHY THEY FORMED THEIR
OWN. FIRM BECAUSE OF THEIR-
MAKING PITCHES THAT WERE NOT
SUCCESSFUL. WITH BUT I GUESS MY
QUESTION. IF I MAY WILL YOU BE
TRACKING. ACTUAL PITCHES THAT
ARE MADE THAT ARE. AWARDED I. SO
IN IN IN THIS BILL- AND LESS THE
FUND WANTS TO GIVE US THAT
INFORMATION THE ACTUAL I BELIEVE
THE ACTUAL. BURBAGE IN THE BILL
DOES NOT TRACK PITCHES BUT ONLY
CLOSE DEALS AFTER THE TERM
SHEETS BEEN SACKED. OKAY SO.
MAYBE THAT CAN BE A NEXT STEP
BUT- YEAH WE'D LOVE TO HAVE THAT
INFORMATION BUT- FOR US WE'D
LIKE TO KNOW JUST WHERE THE
MONEY'S GOING FIRST. OKAY GOT
IT. UP AND I AM HAPPY TO SUPPORT
THE BILL AND I'D LIKE TO MOVE
THE BILL. MOTION FROM HIS BACK
ON. YES SECOND RESTRAINING HIS
MCKENNA. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK
THE AUTHOR FOR THE SENATOR FOR
BRINGING THIS BILL FORWARD- THIS
IS SOME IMPORTANT WORK. WE ARE
TRYING AS SINCE I'VE GOT HERE TO
THE ASSEMBLY. FOR THE LAST PAST
YEAR I'VE BEEN ASKING FOR THIS
TYPE OF DATA BECAUSE WE KNOW
THAT IF. SINCE THESE FOLKS ARE
SAYING THAT ITS BALANCE AND IT'S
GOOD THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE ANY
PROBLEM WITH THIS BILL THEY
SHOULD JUST TURN THE DATA RIGHT
ON OVER. TO SHOW HOW DIVERSE THE
INCLUDES INCLUSIVE THEY ARE BUT
THIS IS SOME GOOD WORK THIS IS
THIS IS NOT ASKING ANYBODY TO DO
ANYTHING OR TO. INVEST ANYONE IS
JUST SAYING WHERE'S THE WHERE'S
THE MONEY GOING AND- ALSO BEING
THE CHAIRPERSON WE WILL WE I'D
LOVE TO SEE THIS DATA BECAUSE-
IF PERSON STARS ARE DOING SOME
OF THIS INVESTMENT. BUT A LOT OF
THE WORKERS THE PUBLIC SECTOR
WORKERS ARE BLACK AND BROWN AND
WOMEN IN SO WE WOULD LOVE TO
SEE. SEE THIS GO FOR IT AND I
WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS BILL
THANK YOU THANK YOU THIS REST. I
SUPPORT THE CONCEPT ART THAT
JUST FINDING OUT WHERE PEOPLE
ARE INVESTING THEIR MONEY. IT
SAYS IT- DID TOO WE'RE GOING TO
COLLECT THE INFORMATION ON THE
BUSINESSES IN WHICH THE COVERED
PERSON MADE A VENTURE CAPITAL
INVESTMENT. WHAT IS OUR
AUTHORITY FOR ASKING A PRIVATE
VENTURE CAPITALIST. TO PROVIDE
INFORMATION TO THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA. IT IS A. M. WE- IN
FACT WE GIVE THEM A BUSINESS
LICENSE WE REGULATE THEM AND SO.
WE WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO BY
STATUTE ASK THEM TO PROVIDE THIS
INFORMATION. THANK YOU. SEEING
NO FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS
FROM THE COMMITTEE WE HAVE A
MOTION AND A SECOND- MISTER
MICHAELS. THANKS SO MUCH- ONE OF
THE WITNESSES WHO CAME TO THE
MIKE. FOLEY IF HE- ENTERED PRE
SHEET THAT THE- COMMITTEE WILL
HELP KEEP TESTIMONY BUT YOU KNOW
HE IS A GRAMMY AWARD WINNING.
MUSICIAN WHO IS ALSO AN
ENTREPRENEUR WHO HAS- DEVELOPED
SOFTWARE AND OTHER- PRODUCTS AND
HE HAD THE ABILITY TO FIND
HIMSELF. IF HE HAD NOT. AND HE
WERE PITCHING S. IS BEEN
EVIDENCED BY THE RESEARCH AND HE
WERE HAVING TO PITCH FOR THE
INVESTMENTS IN FOR THE START UP
HE MAY NOT HAVE HAD BEEN ABLE TO
PURSUE THAT BUSINESS- AND WE SEE
THAT. I THINK- YOU WE SEE NOW
WITH THAT MISS FINCH WITH OTHERS
THAT. THOSE WITH CAPITAL THOSE
IN THE LATINO COMMUNITY THE
BLACK COMMUNITY WOMEN WHO HAVE
SOME CAPITAL ARE FORMING THEIR
OWN FIRMS BECAUSE THEY SEE THAT
THIS CAPITAL IS NOT BEING MADE
AVAILABLE AND YET. THERE'S NOT
ENOUGH CAPITAL OUT THERE FROM
CHEST OF WOMEN PLEX AND- LATINOS
OR WE WOULDN'T HAVE THIS PROBLEM
AND OF COURSE ONCE THEIR START
UPS ARE SUCCESSFUL MAYBE THERE
WOULD BE ENOUGH CAPITAL BUT AT
THE MOMENT NOT AND IT'S A- IT'S
A BIG DISADVANTAGE TO US
ECONOMICALLY AND OTHERWISE. AND
SO I THINK THIS BILL IS EIGHT
BEGAN AIMED IN A SIMPLE WAY. TO
HOPEFULLY HAVE THAT TRANSPARENCY
MOTIVATE SOME- EXPANSION OF
INVESTMENT WITH THAT I. S. ZERO
I VOTE THANK YOU FOR THE MOTION
IS TO PASS AS AMENDED TO
APPROACH ASKED HER TO PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL MENTION I
MENTIONED AYE CONNELLY. CONNELLY
I DIXON. DIXON NO HANEY HANEY I
KALRA. KALRA IP CZECHO. CZECHO I
HAPPEN. TO HAVE I REYES. RESIZE
SANCHEZ. SANCHEZ NO BEGINNER.
BEGINNER. IT YOUR BILL IS OUT
THANK YOU I THINK I'VE ANY OF US
ALSO STAY RIGHT ITEM NUMBER. IN
. THREE FORTY FIVE. TAKE A LOOK
. MOTION FOR MISTER. SECOND A
STRAIN. SENATE WE'RE BACK ON
TRACK. GREAT I WILL- GIVEN THAT
THERE'S EMOTIONAL BE VERY BRIEF
BASICALLY SB THREE FORTY FIVE
ADD SOME PROTECTIONS THAT WHILE
WE DID INCREDIBLE WORK LAST YEAR
WE THE LEGISLATURE IN ADDING A
VARIETY OF LEGAL PROTECTIONS TO
OUR CLINICS TO OUR PROVIDERS TO
OUR PATIENTS TO EXPANDING
ABORTION SERVICES TO EXPANDING
REPRODUCTIVE. HEALTH CARE AND
SUCH I WHAT WE DID AND I
SHOULDN'T SAY WE FAILED TO
ANTICIPATE THAT'S NOT PRICE
QUITE CORRECT BUT WE DIDN'T
REALLY FULLY- IN BODY IN THOSE
BILLS THE ASSAULT THAT WE'RE NOW
SEEING ON VARIOUS MEDICATION.
ARE TREATMENTS SO WE ARE SEEING
AN ASSAULT ON BOTH PROVIDERS AND
PATIENTS WHO GET EITHER A
MEDICATION ABORTION OR TREATMENT
MEDICATION TREATMENT FOR GENDER
AFFIRMING CARE AND WHAT THIS
BILL DOES IS PROVIDE PROTECTION
FOR THOSE PROVIDERS IN
CALIFORNIA REGARDLESS OF WHERE
THEIR PORT PATIENT IS LOCATED
AND I CAN EXPLAIN MORE BUT I
WILL. LEAVE IT AT THAT FOR NOW
AND LET MY WITNESSES SPEAKING
SUPPORT I HAVE DOCTOR POLLOCK
WHO IS A FAMILY PHYSICIAN- WHO
PROVIDES THIS KIND OF TREATMENT
FOR BOTH- REPRODUCTIVE CARE AND
GENDER FOR ME HERE. AND ALSO
PARRIS MULU FREE WHO IS THE
PRESIDENT CALIFORNIA NURSE
MIDWIVES ASSOCIATION. FIRST
WITNESS PLEASE HI HI GOOD
AFTERNOON KAREN COMMITTEE THANK
YOU FOR HAVING ME MY NAME IS LI
LO POLLOCK AND THE FAMILY
PHYSICIAN AND I PROVIDER OF
ABORTION CARE AND GENDER
AFFIRMING CARE. AT UCSF AND
PLANNED PARENTHOOD- AND I AM I
ALSO AM A TRAINER FOR EACH TEACH
WHICH IS TRAINING IN EARLY
ABORTION FOR COMPREHENSIVE
HEALTH CARE. AND I THINK AS WE
ALL KNOW INTEREST LEGISLATORS IN
OTHER STATES WANT TO MAKE IT
IMPOSSIBLE TO ACCESS ABORTION
AND GENDER AFFIRMING CARE ACROSS
THE COUNTRY AND FAILING TO PASS
SB THREE FORTY FIVE WOULD LET
THEM CONTROL MEDICAL CARE
ACTUALLY HERE AT HOME- AND
UNDERMINE CALIFORNIA'S GOAL OF
BEING AN ABORTION HAVEN STATE-
IN THE- LAST YEAR IS IN SHERMAN.
OF YOU KNOW WE A STEADY INFLUX
PATIENTS WHO WANT TO ACCESS
ABORTION IN THEIR HOME STATES
TRAVEL TO CALIFORNIA FOR A
SIMPLE SAFE PROCEDURE. OR
PRESCRIPTION. MEDICAL CARE IS
SIMPLE AND THAT JUGGLING THE
UNKNOWNS OF THE LEGAL
IMPLICATIONS OF THIS CARE IS
MORE COMPLEX. M. AND THIS DOES
ALSO AFFECT A PATIENT'S GETTING
PROCEDURAL ABORTIONS MOST
PATIENTS DON'T NEED ANY FOLLOW
UP AFTER ABORTION PROCEDURE BUT
THAT. THE PROCEDURE IS VERY SAFE
AND EFFECTIVE. BUT I SOMEONE
PATIENT RECENTLY WAS VERY VERY
EARLY IN PREGNANCY AND IDEALLY
WOULD GOT A BLOOD TEST TWO OR
THREE DAYS AFTER HER PROCEDURE
TO CONFIRM IT WAS COMPLETE.
EXCEPT THIS IS STRAIGHT FORWARD
AND ROUTINE EXCEPT IN THIS CASE
THE PATIENT WAS FLYING HOME TO
TEXAS THE NEXT DAY. TO GATHER WE
WERE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT A SAY
FOLLOW UP PLAN BUT IT WASN'T
IDEAL AND I DIDN'T FEEL GOOD TO
BE MAKING MEDICAL DECISIONS
BASED ON THE LAW IN ANOTHER
STATE. INSTEAD OF MY CLINICAL
JUDGMENT. THIS IS THE GOAL OF
ANTI CHOICE LEGISLATORS IN
HOSTILE STATES NOT JUST TO MAKE
ABORTION ILLEGAL AND ACCESSIBLE
IN THEIR STATES BUT TO CREATE A
CHILLING EFFECT ACROSS THE
COUNTRY SO THAT PATIENTS ARE
AFRAID TO SEE CARE. AND
PROVIDERS ARE AFRAID TO PROVIDE
CARE. FOR CALIFORNIA TO BE A
SAFE SPACE FOR PATIENTS TO
ACCESS ABORTION AND GENDER
AFFIRMING CARE PROVIDERS NEED TO
BE PROTECTED BY THE LAWS OF OUR
STATE. AS A CALIFORNIA
HEALTHCARE PROVIDER I URGE YOU
TO VOTE I ON SB THREE FOUR FIVE.
THANK YOU NEXT WITNESS PLACE.
HELLO TERRY MAIENSCHEIN. AND
COMMITTEE. THANK YOU FOR HAVING
ME TODAY MY NAME IS PARRIS
MILITARY I'M UNDERSTAND WHY WITH
SUTTER HEALTH. AND PRESIDENT OF
THE CALIFORNIA NURSE MIDWIVES
ASSOCIATION. AS A NURSE MIDWIFE
I'M A REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH CARE
PROVIDERS ACROSS THE LIFESPAN
AND IT'S SUCH A PROVIDE.
COMPASSIONATE EARLY ABORTION
CARE AND MISCARRIAGE MANAGEMENT
FOR MY PATIENCE. AS A LEADER. IN
MY STATE AFFILIATE. I CAN ALSO
TELL YOU THAT WITHOUT A DOUBT.
OUR MIDWIFE NUMBERS AND FOR
THAT. MATTER OUR PHYSICIAN
COLLEAGUES. ARE DOING WHATEVER
IT TAKES TO ENSURE THAT ANY
PERSON WHO NEEDS AN ABORTION CAN
ACCESS THAT LIFESAVING CARE.
CALIFORNIA REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH
CARE PROVIDERS ARE STEPPING UP
TO FILL THE BREACH IN THIS POST
JOBS WORLD. WHERE THOUSANDS OF
WOMEN WILL SEEK CARE BY
CALIFORNIA PROVIDERS. WE'RE ALSO
WELL AWARE THAT ANTI ABORTION
ADVOCATES WILL NOT BE SATISFIED
WITH DENYING ABORTIONS ONLY IN
THEIR STATE THEY WANT TO MAKE
ABORTION. BIRTH CONTROL ACCESS
AND JENNIFER GENDER AFFIRMING
CARE EXTREMELY DIFFICULT FOR
ANYONE TO OBTAIN EVEN IN STATES
WHERE SUCH CARE REMAINS LEGAL.
THAT MEANS THAT CALIFORNIA
HEALTHCARE PROVIDERS LIKE MYSELF
ARE TARGETS. IN FACT EVEN AS I
SIT HERE NOW HAVING SAID MY NAME
ALLOWED FOR THE CAMERAS IN THIS
ROOM. I CAN'T HELP BUT WONDER.
WHO MIGHT HEAR MY TESTIMONY AND
WHAT THAT MEANS FOR MY PRACTICE
MY LIVELIHOOD AND MY FAMILY.
THIS THOUGHT LOOMS LARGE IN THE
MINDS OF ABORTION CARE PROVIDERS
AND ALTHOUGH NOT A DETERRENT FOR
ME THIS CONCERN WOULD BE A
STRONG DETERRENT OTHER MIDWIVES.
NURSE PRACTITIONERS AND
POSITIONS ESPECIALLY. FOR THOSE
DOING TELEHEALTH ABORTION.
ROBUST ABOARD ACT WILL ONLY
REMAIN A REALITY IF PROVIDERS
ARE. CARE FOR THEIR PATIENTS
WITHOUT THE FEAR OF RETRIBUTION.
AND WITHOUT THE VERY REAL FEAR
THAT THEIR LIVES COULD BE UP
ENDED BY ONE VERY ZEALOUS
PROSECUTOR IN ANOTHER STATE. I
URGE YOU TODAY TO VOTE IN FAVOR
OF SB THREE FORTY FIVE AND STAND
WITH HEALTH CARE PROVIDERS
ACROSS CALIFORNIA LIKE US. YOU
CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THIS
LIFESAVING SERVICE EVEN IN THE
FACE OF SUCH RISKS. WE HAVE A
CALIFORNIA NURSE MIDWIVES
ASSOCIATION CHAMPIONS MANY OF
THE FAB COUNCIL BILLS FROM
TWENTY TWENTY TO THAT ENSURE
CONTINUED ROBUST ACCESS TO
ABORTION IN CALIFORNIA. NOW IN
TWENTY TWENTY THREE THE OBVIOUS
NEXT STEP IS TO ENACT PROVIDER
AND PATIENT PROTECTIONS AGAINST
POTENTIAL CIVIL AND CRIMINAL
PROCEEDINGS. I THANK YOU FOR
YOUR TIME AND STRONGLY URGE YOUR
EYES OUT THANK YOU ANY OTHER
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT NAME AN
ORGANIZATION ONLY. CRACKLES FROM
BEHALF OF A CALL THE CALIFORNIA
PREKO SPONSOR IN SUPPORT. IS HE
SOMEWHERE ABOVE THE CITY AND
COUNTY OF SAN FRANCISCO IN
SUPPORT THANK YOU. ERIN EVANS ON
BEHALF OF NARAL PRO CHOICE
CALIFORNIA CO SPONSOR AND
PROBLEMS SUPPORT A PROBLEM
BECAUSE FUNDS ARE IN SUPPORT.
AND SECOND WE HAVE BEEN ASKED TO
EXPRESS SUPPORT OF AN ADDITIONAL
CO SPONSORED THE BLACK WOMEN FOR
WELLNESS ACTION PROJECT THANK
YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON STEPHANIE
ESTRADA BEHALF OF CALIFORNIA
NOTHING HAS. JUSTICE IN SUPPORT
THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON GRACE
GLAZER BIAFRA VALOR IN THE
CALIFORNIA PARTNERSHIPS AND
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN SUPPORT.
GOOD AFTERNOON ALINA CHAVEZ- BUT
THE PROGRAM PROUD CO SPONSOR AND
IN TRANSPORT THANK YOU. GOOD
AFTERNOON MY RIBS AND WITH
PLANNED PARENTHOOD AFFILIATES OF
CALIFORNIANS SUPPORT THANK YOU
THANK YOU ANY OTHER WITNESSES
AND SUPPORT. SEEN NINE WITNESSES
IN OPPOSITION. SEEN NONE
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM
COMMITTEE. MISTER CONNELLY.
THANK YOU CHAIR NO QUESTIONS
REALLY JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK
YOU TO THE AUTHOR FOR NOT JUST
BRINGING THIS BILL FORWARD BUT
FOR YOUR WORK. IN THIS SPACE- I
THINK THIS IS A WELL CRAFTED
BILL. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT
THAT CALIFORNIA TRULY BE A
SANCTUARY FOR FOLKS AROUND THE
NATION OR WORLD FOR THAT MATTER.
IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO SEE
ABORTION SERVICES AND
REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH. WE SENT A
STRONG MESSAGE WITH THE PASSAGE
OF PROPOSITION ONE I THINK YOU
KNOW SPEAKS THREE FORTY FIVE.
WILL BE IN A AN IMPORTANT PART
OF THIS AND I WOULD LIKE TO BE
ADDED AS A CO AUTHOR. MISTER
KALRA THE SECOND THAT WOULD BE
THAT IS GO OUT THERE THANK YOU
CENTER. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS FROM THE COMMITTEE.
SCENE NINE. SINCE I CAME ACROSS-
YES THANK YOU AND SEE THE
REGULAR OF EMOTION BUT I DID
LIKE ALSO TO POINT OUT THAT LOOK
MANY OF US. WE GO TO ANOTHER
STATE FOR- BECAUSE WE HAVE A JOB
ASSIGNMENT FOR YOUR TO OR WE
HAVE. RELATIVES WHO ARE
STUDYING- WHETHER IT'S GRAD
SCHOOL OR UNDERGRAD AND THEIR
DOCTOR IS IN CALIFORNIA SO
INDEPENDENT OF OUR OTHER
MOTIVATIONS FOR BEING A
SANCTUARY STATE. WE HAVE PATIENT
YOU KNOW PEOPLE THAT THEIR
HEALTHCARE IS HERE BUT THERE IN
ANOTHER STATE. AND THEY WANT TO
BE ABLE TO RELY ON THEIR
HEALTHCARE HERE AND SO THEIR
HEALTHCARE PROFESSIONAL NEEDS TO
BE PROTECTED. AND WITH THAT I
ASKED FOR YOUR I. BOATS THANK
YOU WE HAVE A MOTION IT IS TO
PASSED PUBLIC SAFETY ESCORT
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL MAIENSCHEIN
I MEAN CHEN AYE CONNELLY.
CONNELLY I DIXON. DIXON NO HANEY
. ANY AYE KALRA. KALRA AYE FOR
CHECKUP. CHECK OUT PAP IN.
HAPPEN IRATE. REYES I. SANCHEZ
MAKING- YOUR BILL IS OUT YOU.
ADVERTISING I'D- NEXT IT IS
ITEM. NINE SB FIVE FIVE THREE
CORTES C. SECRETARY.
SURE. CIRCUIT IS A WELCOME YOU
MAY PROCEED. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. CHAIR AND MEMBERS
SOMEONE NEW I THANK THE
COMMITTEE FOR THEIR THOUGHTFUL
WORK ON THIS BILL WILL BE
ACCEPTING ALL COMMITTEE
AMENDMENTS. AND I'M VERY PLEASED
TO BE HERE PRESENTING SB FIVE
FIFTY THREE WHICH AS YOU KNOW IS
A WORK PLACE SAFETY BILL THE
BILL HAPPENS TO BE SPONSORED BY
UFCW UNITED FOOD AND COMMERCIAL
WORKERS IN THIS COSPONSORED BY
ASKED ME- IF- CHAU SB FIVE FIFTY
THREE WILL STRENGTHEN EXISTING
LAWS RELATED TO WORKPLACE
VIOLENCE BY EXPANDING THE
ABILITY OF COURSE PROTECT THEIR
WORKERS WORKPLACE SAFETY AND
CREATING ADDITIONAL ENFORCEABLE
PROTECTIONS FOR EMPLOYEES. OSHA
HAS CLEARLY IDENTIFIED WORKPLACE
VIOLENCE AS THE SECOND LEADING
CAUSE OF FATAL OCCUPATIONAL
INJURY THE WORKPLACE AND
ESTIMATES NEARLY TWO MILLION
WORKERS ARE AFFECTED BY
WORKPLACE VIOLENCE EACH YEAR AS
YOU MAY REMEMBER. AND I KNOW OF
. MY COLLEAGUES FROM THE BAY
AREA CLEARLY REMEMBER ON MAY
TWENTY SIX OF TWENTY TWENTY ONE
THE VTA EMPLOYEE ENTERED THE
GUADALUPE YARD THE VALUE
TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY MY
DISTRICT AND KILLED NINE OF HIS
COWORKERS AT THE FACILITY BEFORE
TAKING HIS OWN LIFE- I SURVEYED
THAT SCENE- ALMOST IMMEDIATELY
AFTERWARD- IT. LEFT ME
PROFOUNDLY IMPACTED. IN RESPONSE
TO THE TRAGEDY WERE ABLE TO GET
SB TWELVE NINETY FOUR SIGNED
INTO LAW- THAT BILL PROMOTING
EMPLOYEE WELLNESS AND SAFETY IN
HIGH STRESS INDUSTRIES BY
CREATING A PATH. TO EXPAND
WORKER WELLNESS CENTERS THAT WAS
A GOOD FIRST STEP. BUT OUR WORK
IS OBVIOUSLY NOT COMPLETE
UNFORTUNATELY WORKPLACE
SHOOTINGS ARE BECOMING MORE AND
MORE COMMON- IN JUNE OF TWENTY
TWENTY TWO WAS A POOR EMPLOYEE
IN MY DISTRICT SAN JOSE. OF
MANUAL WHOSE WHOSE ARE CORNEAL
WE SHOT AND KILLED DURING A
ROBBERY INSIDE THE STORE. THE
LEGISLATURE'S MADE SOME
IMPRESSIVE STRIDES IN REDUCING
WORKPLACE VIOLENCE. IN TWENTY
SEVENTEEN AFTER THE PASSAGE OF
WHAT WAS IN SB TWELVE NINETY
NINE BY THEN CALIFORNIA C.
CENTER ALEX PADILLA. A CAL OSHA
OFFICIALLY ADOPTED. A PIVOTAL
VIOLENCE PREVENTION STANDARDS
BUT APPLY THEM AT THAT TIME ONLY
TO HEALTH CARE WORKPLACES- YET
THESE STANDARDS- ONLY INCREASED
PROTECTIONS FOR HEALTH CARE
WORKERS EXCLUDING MOST OF
CALIFORNIA'S. WORKFORCE SIX
YEARS AGO OSHA CIRCULATED
GENERAL INDUSTRY WORKPLACE
VIOLENCE DISCUSSION DRAFT
OUTLINING WORKPLACE VIOLENCE
PREVENTION. STANDARDS FOR
EVERYONE ELSE. HOWEVER A DEBT
TRAP IS. WEAKER PROVIDE
PROTECTIONS- IN A COUPLE OF
AREAS- INCLUDING WEAKENED
PROTECTIONS COMPARED TO THE
WORKPLACE VIOLENCE STANDARDS IN
THE HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY. I
KNOWLEDGE THAT SIX YEARS OF
PLANNING IS NOT DUE TO INACTION
ESPECIALLY WITH WHAT WE JUST
WENT THROUGH WITH COBIT- BUT- WE
NEED TO ACCELERATE THE STANDARD
WITH ROBUST PROTECTIONS WE CAN'T
STAND BY WHILE INCIDENTS OF
WORKPLACE VIOLENCE CONTINUE TO
RISE. SB FIVE FIFTY THREE WILL
EXPEDITE WORKPLACE VIOLENCE
PREVENTION STANDARDS FOR NON
HEALTH CARE WORKERS MEETING THE
REST OF. ALL EMPLOYERS IN THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA AND OFFER
ALL WORKERS IS SAYING QUALITY OF
PROTECTIONS- THAT THEY ENJOY. A
THROUGH ARTICULATED WORKPLACE
VIOLENCE PREVENTION PLANS DATA
COLLECTION ON WORKPLACE VIOLENCE
INCIDENTS AFFECTED TRAIN EXPAND
EMPLOYEE PROTECTIONS SB. FIVE
FIFTY THREE WILL HELP ENSURE
ACCOUNTABILITY- IT'S BEEN
UNFORTUNATE THE TO SEE THE
DEGREE OF DISINFORMATION
CIRCULATED REGARDING THE BILL-
SOME GOING AS FAR AS TO SAY THAT
ON THE RETAIL SIDE- THE BILL'S
LEGISLATING SHOPLIFTING. SB FIVE
FIFTY THREE CLEARLY STATES THE
NEED FOR NOT ONLY SHOPLIFTER
TRAINING GOOD KNOWLEDGE IN THE
CERTAIN ENVIRONMENTS RICK MAY
REQUIRE. A SECURITY PERSONNEL
FURTHERMORE NON SECURITY
PERSONNEL SHOULD NOT BE PUTTING
CONFRONTATIONAL SITUATIONS WE
REALLY CREATED TWO WORLDS IN THE
BILL THOSE OF EMPLOYEES WHO ARE
DEDICATED SECURITY PERSONNEL.
AND THAT THE PLAN- IN THE I. P.
P. THAT WERE CALLING FOR WOULD
SAY WHO IS A SECURITY PERSONNEL
WHICH EMPLOYEES OR NOT WE THINK
THAT'S GOOD FOR EMPLOYEES TO
KNOW IT'S GOOD FOR CUSTOMERS IN
ON THE RETAIL SIDE ULTIMATELY
FOR THEIR OWN SAFETY- IN A GOOD
FOR US TO KNOW AS WELL- WE
ADOPTED AMENDMENTS TO FURTHER
CLARIFY DEFINITIONS LISTED IN
THE BILL TO DISCOURAGE
MISINFORMATION. AND I THINK THAT
DEMONSTRATES OUR COMMUNITY OUR
COMMITMENT TO CONTINUING
CONTINUAL DIALOGUE BILL AND MORE
MOMENTS WILL COME I DON'T WANT
TO RECITE ALL OF THESE- WITH A
YOU HAVE A LONG DOCKET TODAY-
BUT WE HAVE A PAGE AND A HALF OF
AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE ALREADY
BEEN ADOPTED IF THERE IS. AT
SOME POINT ANY QUESTION ABOUT
THOSE- I CAN CERTAINLY A SITE
THOSE ARE BY DATE BYE COMMITTEE-
YOU KNOW AND OBVIOUSLY BY
SUBJECT MATTER- HERE TO TESTIFY
WE HAVE SAMANTHA WEBSTER'S- ARE
HERCULES GROCERY WORKER AND
STEVE JOBS EL PRESIDENTE PASSED
ME COUNCIL FIFTY SEVEN. IN A
RANK AND FILE MEMBER PRESENT
LOCAL ELEVEN A ONE AT SENECA
VALLEY TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY-
THANK YOU VERY MUCH AGAIN FOR
YOUR HELP WITH THE BILL. THE END
OF THE PERFECT TIME OUT
RESPECTFULLY ASK. FOR YOUR I.
BOATS THANK YOU FIRST WITNESS.
FIRST GOOD- CHAIRING CA MEMBER.
OF MY NAY IS SAMANTHA WEBSTER
AND I WORK AT SAFEWAY IN
HERCULES. THANK YOU FOR HAVING
ME HERE TODAY TO TALK TO YOU
ABOUT WORKPLACE VIOLENCE. I
WORKED AT SAFEWAY FOR TWENTY ONE
YEARS NOW SO I HAVE PLENTY.
INCIDENCES BACK IN TWO THOUSAND
ONE WHEN I STARTED AS A CHECKER.
I HAD A CUSTOMER COME THROUGH MY
LINE WITH HER TEENAGE DAUGHTER.
THE CUSTOMER'S DEBIT CARD WASN'T
WORKING AND THE CUSTOMER GOT
AGGRAVATED AND STARTED CUSSING
AT ME AND THREATENING ME. HER
DAUGHTER BECAME ENRAGED AND SPAT
AT ME BECAUSE SHE THOUGHT I WAS
INTENTIONALLY MESSING UP
TRANSACTION. OTHER CUSTOMERS GOT
INVOLVED AND EVENTUALLY MY
MANAGER PULLED ME AWAY FROM THE
CUSTOMER INSISTING THAT I STAY
HIDDEN. THE DAY AFTER CHRISTMAS
IN TWO THOUSAND SIXTEEN I WAS
WORKING AT THE CHECK STAND AT
THE TIME. THE COMPANY HAD US
ASKING CUSTOMERS IF THEY WANT TO
FAX. A CUSTOMER CAME THROUGH MY
LINE WITH TWO GALLON JUGS OF
JUICE AND I ASKED IF SHE WANTED
BACK. THE CUSTOMER SAID OF
COURSE I WANT BAGS ARE YOU
STUPID. I TOLD THE CUSTOMER NOT
TO SPEAK TO ME IN THAT WAY AND
THE CUSTOMER THEN GRABBED A
BOTTLE OF WATER THAT WAS ON
DISPLAY REMOVE THE CAP AND
PROCEEDED TO THROW THE WATER AT
ME AND THEN THE BOTTLE. LASTLY
ONE DAY I WAS A MILITARY
DEPARTMENTS I SAW A MAN STEALING
CHEESE AND OTHER ITEMS. I WENT
TO HIM PER ALVERSON SHOPLIFTER
POLICY WHICH IS TO ENGAGE A
SUSPECTED SHOPLIFTER AND PERFORM
CUSTOMER SERVICE ASKING IF HE
NEEDED HELP. I OFFERED HIM A
HAND BASKET AND THE CUSTOMER
THEN PULLED UP HIS SHIRT TO
FLASH A GUN THAT WAS IN HIS
WAIST AND TOLD ME TO BACK OFF. I
WAS SO SCARED. I DIDN'T KNOW IF
I WAS GOING TO MAKE IT HOME TO
MY FIVE YEAR OLD SON. THERE'S NO
REAL SECURITY IN OUR STORES AND
IF THERE ARE GUARDS THE GUARDS
CAN'T REALLY DO ANYTHING BUT
CALL THE POLICE. AND THEY TEND
TO TAKE THEIR OWN TIME TO SHOW
UP. WORKERS LIKE MYSELF DIDN'T
SIGN UP TO GET SHOT HARASSED
THREATENED OR INSULTED. WE
SHOULD HAVE NOT WE SHOULD NOT
HAVE TO WAKE UP EACH MORNING
AFRAID THAT WE WILL BE ASSAULTED
OR KILLED WHILE AT WORK. WE WANT
TO BE ABLE TO STOCK SHELVES AND
JUST WORK WITHOUT FEARING FOR
OUR LIVES. BUT THERE'S NO SAFETY
PRECAUTIONS IN PLACE FOR US AT
ALL. IF WE DEFEND OURSELVES OR
DO ANYTHING THE COMPANY DOESN'T
LIKE WE ARE THE ONES UNDER
INVESTIGATION NOT THE CUSTOMER
WHO INSTIGATED IT. EVEN IF YOU
WALK AWAY FROM SITUATION THE
AGGRESSOR OFTEN FEELS LIKE
THEY'RE BEING IGNORED AND IT
ESCALATES THE SITUATION. I AM
HERE TODAY TO ASK YOU TO VALUE
GROCERY WORKERS LIVES. WE HAVE
FAMILIES WE ARE SOMEONE'S
DAUGHTER SOMEONE'S MOTHER.
SOMEONE'S SON SOMEONE'S FATHER
AND WE DESERVE TO BE BE VALUED
AS MUCH AS EVERYONE ELSE. PLEASE
VOTE YES SENATE BILL FIVE FIVE
THREE. TO IMPLEMENT BASIC
PROTECTIONS INTENDED TO KEEP
WORKERS SAFE WHILE I WORK. EVERY
DAY OUR LIVES ARE AT RISK. THANK
YOU. NEXT WITNESS. THANK YOU
CHAIR AND MEMBERS MY NAME IS
STEVE BROUGH ON PRESIDENT
AMERICAN FEDERATION OF STATE
COUNTY AND MUNICIPAL EMPLOYEES
COUNCIL FIFTY SEVEN. AND RANK
AND FILE MEMBER AND PRESIDENT OF
LOCAL ELEVEN THE ONE. AT THE
SANTA CLARA VALLEY
TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY. THANK
THANK YOU SIR CORTESE FOR
WORKING ON HIS BILL. AND YOUR
LEADERSHIP IN ENSURING WORKERS
ARE PROTECTED AT THE WORKPLACE.
THIS BILLS PARTICULAR POINTS FOR
ABSENT MEMBERS WORKPLACE
VIOLENCE IS GREATLY IMPACTED OUR
MEMBERS FROM PARAMEDICS. TO
WORKERS AT THE CALIFORNIA.
AGENCIES TRANSIT WORKERS
LIBRARIANS ARE MORE. MEMBERS
FROM VARIOUS SECTORS OF SHARED
THEIR STORIES OF PHYSICALLY
BEING ATTACKED VERBALLY ABUSED
AND SEXUALLY HARASSED AT THE
WORKPLACE. ON MAY TWENTY SIX
TWENTY TWENTY ONE. ASK ME ALSO
UNION BROTHER IN THE BAY AREA'S
DEADLIEST MASS SHOOTING. WHEN
THE GUNMEN WHO WORKED AT SOCCER
VÌ TA OPENED FIRE IN THE WORK
PLACE. CLEAN NIGHT KILLING NINE
ORACLE WORKERS. WE LOST EIGHTY
BROTHERS AND THIS IS AN INCIDENT
AS WELL AND LATER LOSING ONE
ADDITIONAL POLLY. TO SUICIDE
WHICH WAS A DIRECT IMPACT TO
THIS VIOLENCE. WE ARE NOT UNDER
ANY FRAUD FALSE PRETENSE THAT
THIS BILL WILL PREVENT ALL
WORKPLACE VIOLENCE. BUT WE
BELIEVE THAT SB FIVE FIFTY THREE
WILL GIVE EMPLOYERS AND
EMPLOYEES THE TOOLS TO KEEP
THEMSELVES SAFE FROM THE SALTS.
AND MORE SEARS TRAGEDIES. IT MAY
COME AS A SURPRISE TO SOME OF
YOU THAT BUT CAL OSHA'S
WORKPLACE VIOLENCE REGULATIONS
CURRENTLY APPLY ONLY TO THE
HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY. CALIFORNIA
CAN LEAD THE WAY. IN APPLYING
THE STANDARD FOR INDUSTRIES MOST
ARRESTS FOR VIOLENCE AND POWER
BOTH WORKERS AND EMPLOYERS TO
COME TOGETHER AND TO PUT PROTECT
THEMSELVES AND THE COMMUNITIES.
AND HELP WORKERS FIND THE HELP
THAT THEY NEED FOLLOWING A
TRAUMATIC EVENT. FOR THESE
REASONS WE URGE YOU TO SUPPORT
SB FIVE FIFTY THREE. I'D LIKE TO
THANK ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR THE
OPTING IS SPEAK WITH YOU TODAY.
THANK YOU WIN ASSISTANCE SUPPORT
NAME. CHART AT OUR U. S. E. W.
COSPONSORED PLEASED TO ANSWER
ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT THANK
YOU WHEN ASSISTANCE SUPPORT NAME
AN ORGANIZATION ONLY PLEASE.
HELLO NICK CRUZ CALIFORNIA LABOR
FEDERATION IN SUPPORT. JACKSON
GRANT WILLIAMS W. WESTERN STATES
COUNCIL PRACTICE POTS ARE IN
SUPPORT. CHRIS MARSHALL THE
CALIFORNIA SCHOOL EMPLOYEES
ASSOCIATION TO TRANSPORT.
LEVERAGING ASK ME PROUD CO
SPONSOR AND SUPPORT. WOULD
ASSIST IN OPPOSITION. THANK YOU
MISTER CHAIRMAN BRUCE ROBERTSON
WE TREAT FOR THE CALIFORNIA
CHAMBER OF COMMERCE- AND WE ARE
IN RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION TO SB
FIVE FIVE THREE. I FIRST I WANT
TO UP FRONT I THINK THE AUTHOR
AND STAFF AND SPONSORS IF YOU W.
FOR REPEATED AND ONGOING
MEETINGS ON THIS WE HAVE BEEN
ABLE TO COME SOME VERY SMALL. A
CLEANUP PIECES THAN THEY ARE
APPRECIATED BUT YOU HAVE
INTEREST THE CORE ISSUES BEFORE
I GET TO THE SUBSTANCE OF THE
BILL I WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT
WHAT WE ARE NOT- WHAT WE ARE NOT
IN DEFENSE OF WE ARE CERTAINLY
NOT HERE IN DEFENSE OF WORKPLACE
VIOLENCE AND- THOSE STORIES ARE
TRAGIC I'M- SO SORRY TO HEAR
THEM- BECAUSE THIS. COMMITTEE IS
DOING IT JUST A LIMITED PIECE OF
THE BILL I THINK THE HOUSES-
KNOWS THIS BUT I WANT TO MAKE
CLEAR FOR THE COMMITTEE. ON
THERE ARE TWO VERY SIGNIFICANT
DIFFERENTLY PIECES HERE- THE ONE
IS THE CHANGES TO WHEN A
TEMPORARY RESTRAINING ORDER IS
AVAILABLE- AND THAT PEACE HAS
VERY DIFFERENT THOUGHTS ON THE
OPPOSITION SIDE SO WHEN I
CLEARLY SEPARATE THE TWO PIECES.
AND IDENTIFY THE LIMITED SCOPE
OF THIS COMMITTEE- SEPARATE FROM
THE ENTIRE BILL- I WILL SAY ON.
BEHALF OF THE CHAMBER THE
SECTION OF THE BILL CHANGING THE
T. R. O. STANDARD AND ALLOWING
HIM. TO HEROES RUN REPLACE
POUNDS TO BE SOUGHT BY. UNIONS
AS WELL AS EMPLOYERS. THE
CHAMBER IS NOT OPPOSED TO IN
MANY BUSINESS GROUPS OR NOT I DO
WANNA FLAG I THINK. AND I DON'T
SPEAK FOR THEM BUT ONE
CORRECTION I THINK THERE WAS A
POTENTIALLY MISUNDERSTANDING
ANALYSIS. I BELIEVE I'VE SPOKEN
TO SOME PUBLIC ENTITIES WHO HAVE
CONCERNS ABOUT THE FEASIBILITY
AND FUNCTION OF THE T. R. O.
MEASURE- I JUST. DON'T I CAN'T
GET INTO DETAILS I JUST SPOKE TO
THEM HEARD THAT SOMEONE A FLAG
THAT FOR KNOWLEDGE- THE BUT THAT
IS NOT THE PIECE THE CHAMBER AS
OPPOSED TO ON THE BILL. THE
REMAINING PIECE THE BILL AT THE
WORKPLACE FINAL SANTA CAL OSHA
IS WHERE OUR FOCUS IS AND I JUST
WANNA FLAG WHY- AS THE AUTHOR
QUICKLY NOTED QALISYA PASSED A
HEALTH CARE WITH HIS FINAL
STANDARD AND- SIX YEARS AGO AT
THE HOSPITALS. AND HAS BEEN
WORKING SENSE ON ONE APPLIED FOR
ALL INDUSTRIES. AND THAT'S
INCLUDED CHANGES TO LANGUAGE TO
MAKE SENSE AWAY FROM HOSPITALS
AND- VERY STREAMLINING CHANGES.
IN THOSE SIX YEARS I'VE SPOKEN
TO COLLEGE STAFF ON IT. AND
BASICALLY WE'RE WE'RE COMING
FROM IS. NOT ALL EMPLOYERS ARE
HOSPITALS HOSTELS ARE FIVE
HUNDRED THOUSAND OR TWO THOUSAND
EMPLOYEES. AND THE VAST MAJORITY
CALIFORNIA BUSINESSES. ARE NOT
IN THAT RANGE SO THAT IS WHERE I
WAS INCOME FROM GLAD ANSWER ANY.
ABOUT I PORTION IN CLARIFY THANK
YOU. THANK YOU OTHER WITNESSES
OPPOSITE. MISTER CHAIR CHRIS
MAKAYLA WE HAVE THE LOS ANGELES
AREA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE FOR THE
REASONS THAT MISTER RICHARDSON
THANK YOU. RECOLLECT HEALTHY ON
BEHALF OF THIS IS SEATED GENERAL
CONTRACTORS OF CALIFORNIA. AND
SAN DIEGO CHAPTER'S AND
RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION. GOOD
AFTERNOON KATIE TV WITH A
CALIFORNIA RESTAURANT
ASSOCIATION WERE OPPOSED TO SB
FIVE FIVE THREE. THIS IS YOUR
MEMBERS CARS WITH TEARS SO WE
HAVE THE CALIFORNIA GROCERS
ASSOCIATION AND THE AMERICAN
COUNCIL ENGINEERING COMPANIES
CALIFORNIAN OPPOSITION. THANK
YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON RIGHT ELENA
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
RETAILERS ASSOCIATION OPPOSITION
THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON
EARNING THROUGH THE CALIFORNIA
SPECIAL DISTRICTS ASSOCIATION
ALSO HERE ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF HER
THE ASSOCIATION. OF CALIFORNIA
SCHOOL SUPERINTENDENT- AND
RESPECT OPPOSITION. KALING DEAN
ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
STATE ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES
ALSO THE CALIFORNIA LEAGUE OF
CITIES AND THE RURAL COUNTY
REPRESENTATIVES CALIFORNIA IN
OPPOSITION. CASEY NO FURTHER
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE
COMMITTEE MISTER KALRA. I THINK
IT WAS SURE PERSONALLY TO MOVE
THE BILL- AND JUST THINK THIS. I
THINK THAT THAT THANK YOU
SENATOR- WHO'S REALLY MADE THIS
IS MISSION SINCE THE TRAGIC OF.
THE BEACHES SHOOTING IN OUR
DISTRICT- AND- REALLY IS THE
WORKERS THAT- I WENT THROUGH THE
PAIN THE FAMILIES THAT ARE
REALLY URGED US TO ACT AND SO
I'M VERY GRATEFUL. TO THE
SENATOR. AND THE WORKERS THAT AT
THE COURAGE TO COME FORWARD AND
TELL THEIR STORIES- SIMILARLY
WITH OUR GROCERY STORE WORKERS
OF THOSE ARE CUSTOMER FACING
WE'VE SEEN PARTICULAR DURING THE
PANDEMIC AND SENSE. OF HOW MUCH
HARDER IT'S BEEN TO BE IN THOSE
POSITIONS I MEAN WE DO
EVERYTHING WE CAN. TO MAKE THOSE
WORKPLACES AS SIMPLE AS WE
POSSIBLY CAN AND SO I BETTER DO
THIS DURING THE RETRIEVAL OF THE
FIELD A CO AUTHOR THE BILL AS
WELL SO TAKE THAT AS A MOTION
FOR MISTER KALRA SECOND. THIS
MISS REYES MISS PAP. SO ARE I'M
GONNA SUPPORT THE TODAY BECAUSE
THE- WE ARE HERE FOR UNLIMITED.
AND I'LL- I FEEL TERRIBLE ABOUT
WHAT BOTH OF YOU HAVE BEEN
THROUGH- I'M HOPEFUL THAT YOU
ALL CAN WORK TOGETHER AND TRY TO
FIGURE OUT SOME PRETTY WORKABLE-
SAFETY MEASURES. IT IS. A
TERRIBLE STATE OF OUR- OUR
SOCIETY THAT. YOU'RE WORKING IN
A GROCERY STORY AND YOU HAVE TO
ENTER WHICH AND OR OR LIKEWISE
AT PTA I'M FROM SAN MATEO COUNTY
SO SOME OF YOUR EMPLOYEES
CERTAINLY LIVE IN MY COUNTY. SO
IT EVEN I WOULD LOVE TO SEE YOUR
WORK TOGETHER AND YOU GET TO A
POSITION WHERE YOU'RE IN SUPPORT
OF THE BILL BECAUSE LIKE YOU
SAID. NOBODY CAN BE OPPOSED TO
SAFETY AND WORK SO. LET'S MAKE
IT HAPPEN. MITHRAS THANK YOU MR
RIGHT I MADE THIS COMMENT DURING
LABOR AND LIKE MAKE IT AGAIN.
THAT THIS IS REGARDING A PLAN
IT'S A WORKPLACE VIOLENCE
PREVENTION PLAN. IT'S NOT
TELLING YOU EVERYTHING YOU TO DO
IS JUST SAYING PUT TOGETHER A
PLAN IS THAT CORRECT. THAT'S YES
THAT'S CORRECT- THE PLAN WHAT.
WE ALREADY HAVE AN IPP IN INJURY
PREVENTION PLAN THIS REQUIRED BY
STATE LAW. OF FOREIGN PLAYERS IN
THIS IN THE FACT IN BED CITY OR
AS A WORK PLACE VIOLENCE
PREVENTION PLAN IN IT BUT I
THINK YOU'RE REAL POINT IS THIS
IS A PLAN- THERE'S- A CLOSE
READING THE BILL WILL. MAKE IT
VERY VERY CLEAR THEY'RE THEY'RE
NOT. SPECIFIC MANDATES GIVEN
THAT IT'S INDUSTRY WIDE- FOR
WHAT- SOMEONE MIGHT WANT TO
INCLUDE IN THAT PLAN BUT THERE
IS A LINE WHICH IS SAYS THAT THE
ENVIRONMENT- OF THAT PLACE OF
EMPLOYMENT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN
INTO ACCOUNT WHEN WRITING THE
PLAN- THERE'S BASICALLY. SEVEN
UP POINTS AND I'VE MADE THIS
GENERAL POINT BEFORE SEVEN
POINTS- IF YOU WERE TO LOOK AT
IT THE FACT SHEET ON THE BILL. I
THINK THEY'RE ACCURATE AS TO
WHAT SHOULD BE IN THE PLAN. IN
IN HONESTLY IT IS NOT A MATTER
OF BEING EITHER FACETIOUS OR
SNARKY IN ANY SHAPE WAY SHAPE OR
FORM BUT WE HAVE. MIDDLE SCHOOLS
IN SANTA CLARA COUNTY ARE ON
THEIR OWN- THAT. YOU KNOW ARE
AND HELP ACCOMPLISH THE SEVEN
THE SEVEN STEPS- THERE'S BEEN
QUESTIONS ABOUT WELLNESS
REFERRAL AND SO FORTH- I.
CERTAINLY HAVE MENTAL HEALTH
CRISIS OUT THERE BUT WE HAVE NO
SHORTAGE OF ABILITY TO REFER
SOMEBODY TO A WELLNESS CENTER.
AND NUTS- WOULD. THIS BILL
ENCOURAGES AS AS ONE OF THOSE
ITEMS. THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE IN
THE PLAN. AND I ALSO WANT TO
PREACH. FROM A- THE AMOUNT THE
RECENT TO DELAY IMPLEMENTATION
SINCE CAL OSHA IS WORKING ON
THIS AND I APPRECIATE THAT THAT
WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS BROUGHT
UP. AND- SO THAT WE'RE NOT DOING
DOUBLE WORK IF IT'S IF WE HAVE
CAL OSHA PUTTING SOMETHING
TOGETHER. THEN THE
IMPLEMENTATION WILL BE DELAYED
SO I APPRECIATE THAT THANK YOU
THANK YOU MISTER CHECK OUT.
THANK YOU ON AND I ALSO WANT TO
COMMENT THAT I FEEL BAD FOR BOTH
OF YOU WHO HAVE DEALT WITH-
WORKPLACE ON VIOLENCE- I KNOW
THAT- WE OPPOSITION. BOB DOES
NOT WANT ANY. ANY WORKPLACE
VIOLENCE IT. TERRIBLE THAT THIS
IS HAPPENED AND IS HAPPENING-
BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS- IS THERE
STILL CONTINUE CONVERSATIONS
BETWEEN THE OPPOSITION AND THE
AUTHOR. YES IN FACT WE HAVE- OUR
ENDS COMING IN A STATUS ON THE
RECORD OF THE LAST COMMITTEE
AND- YOU KNOW THE GOAL IS TO
HAVE. THE ADDITIONAL MEMBERS
READY FOR APPROPRIATIONS- AROUND
THE SIZE OF THE BUSINESSES THAT
WOULD BE GOVERNED- BY THIS BY
THIS LEGISLATION. ENDS WE'VE
BEEN WORKING. ON A ON A REGULAR
BASIS WITH THE OPPOSITION
THERE'S A SERIES ONE TWO THREE
FOUR. INCLUDING THIS COMMITTEE-
WELL WHAT WILL BE FIVE IN AND
SIX FUTURE AMENDMENTS BEFORE
TAKEN ALREADY AND I DON'T THINK
THEY'RE MINOR TECHNICAL.
AMENDMENTS UP FOR EXAMPLE WE
REDEFINED WHAT DEDICATED SAFETY
PERSONNEL ARE FOR THE RETAILERS
PARTICULARLY TO MAKE SURE THAT
PEOPLE THAT THEY USE LIKE LOSS
PREVENTION. OF FOLKS WHO ARE NOT
THE CHECKERS OF THE BANKERS ARE
ARE SPECIFICALLY CALLED OUT AS
SATISFYING THE REQUIREMENT IN
THE PLAN. OF FOR DEDICATED
SECURITY PERSONNEL SO IT'S BEEN
HELPFUL- YOU KNOW TO HAVE- EYES
ON THIS- FROM DIFFERENT
SEGMENTS. IT'S COVERS EVERY
EMPLOYER IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA SO WELL WE'VE HAD A
FEW AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE
PARTICULAR EMPLOYMENT SECTORS IS
STILL HAVE CONCERNS- IT'S
GRATIFYING AT THIS POINT THAT
WERE. A CLOSER CLOSER CLOSER TO
SATISFYING EVERYONE'S CONCERNS.
OF THAT'S WERE AT BOUTIQUE GOING
ON IT I THINK I THINK. ALSO
TWENTY. LIKE I WOULD AGREED WE
ARE IN TALK WE ARE CONTINUE TO
TRY TO ADDRESS DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN THE K. SURE VERSION
WHICH THEY HAVE WORKED ON IT AND
THE PRESENTATION WE ARE IN TALKS
ON THAT AND APPRECIATE THE
TALKS. THANK YOU AND I AND I
LOOK FORWARD TO THE OUTCOME I'M
GLAD TO HEAR THAT- THAT WOULD BE
ABLE TO WORKING TOGETHER SO.
THANK YOU MYSTICS OF. THANK YOU
CHAIR. I I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT
THERE'S CONTINUED CONVERSATIONS
OBVIOUSLY WE ALL WANT WORKPLACE
SAFETY OF FOR MANY MANY YEARS.
WE'VE ALL WORKED WITH CAL OSHA
OR ARE FEDERAL OSHA SO EMPLOYERS
ARE CLEARLY FOLLOWING A
STRINGENT RIGOROUS SET OF RULES
STATE AND FEDERAL RULES ON
WORKPLACE SAFETY I THINK. WE ALL
KNOW THAT THE ELEPHANT IN THE
ROOM ON THIS SUBJECT IS THAT OUR
SOCIETY IS CHANGING AND VIOLENCE
IS BECOMING. SYSTEMIC AND IT- MY
CONCERN IS THAT WE'RE PUTTING
OUR SAFETY FOR. THE PUBLIC
SAFETY MENTAL SAFETY MENTAL
ILLNESS SAFETY PROTECTIONS ON
THE BACKS OF SMALL BUSINESS ON
RETAILERS AREN'T YOU SAID ON
EVERY EMPLOYER IN CALIFORNIA
THIS IS A HUGE IMPOSITION. I DO
I WILL PERSONALLY BE. PLEASED IF
WE COULD FIND A HAPPY MEDIUM
WHERE RETAILERS AND- BUSINESS
OWNERS SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS ARE
CAN BE PROTECTED NO ONE WANTS
TO. SEE HEAR THE STORIES OF
HORRIBLE BEHAVIOR WHETHER IT'S
CAUSED BY MENTAL ILLNESS ARE
JUST RUDE PEOPLE IT'S ABOUT HOW
DO YOU LEGISLATE. AGAINST
RUDENESS I DON'T KNOW BUT IF WE
COULD FIND A WAY. EXTREME
RUDENESS IS TERRIBLE WHAT YOU
WENT THROUGH. UP I JUST OF
HORROR THAT BUT I DON'T KNOW IF
YOU KNEW MORE LAWS ARE GOING TO
CURE BAD BEHAVIOR BUT I HOPE
THAT WE CAN FIND A HAPPY MEDIUM
I WILL NOT SUPPORT IT NOW BUT I
HOPE WHEN IT GETS TO THE FLOOR
WE CAN HAVE SEE THESE AMENDMENTS
THAT CAN REALLY. WORK TO. HELP
CHANGE BEHAVIOR I GUESS IS WHAT
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS SOCIETY
IT'S A REAL TOUGH ORDER I THANK
YOU. THANK YOU SEE NO FURTHER
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE
COMMITTEE I WE DO HAVE EMOTIONS
SECOND. SORRY BECAUSE- YOU THINK
YOU APPRECIATE ALL THE COMMENTS-
IN INNER ALSO IN TERMS OF
CONCERN SO WILL BE CLEAR THAT-
THERE'S NOTHING IN THE BILL THAT
PREEMPTS OSHA FROM CONTINUE ROLE
MAKING SHOULD. THAT SHOULD THAT
BE WHAT THEY WANT TO CONTINUE
DOING OUR STANDING AS- THEY
CONTINUE THEIR WORK BUT THIS IS
SOMETHING WE CAN DO RIGHT NOW-
WITH WHAT WE HAVE AND WHAT WE'RE
ABLE TO DO AS A LEGISLATURE- UP
TO PUT PLANS IN PLACE- TO DRESS-
THESE KINDS OF ISSUES- WE'VE ALL
BEEN IMPACTED BY THEM. YEAH AND-
WE UNDERSTAND EMPLOYERS ARE
OFTENTIMES VICTIMS THEMSELVES OF
THE KIND OF BEHAVIOR THAT WE SEE
OUT THERE. BUT PERHAPS ALL THE
MORE REASON TO HAVE PLANS IN
PLACE SO CAN WE THANK I THANK
THE COMMITTEE STUFF- FOR.
EXCELLENT WORK SPECIALLY IN THE
AREA OF- THE RESTRAINING ORDERS-
AND IN SOME OTHER AREAS WHERE WE
GOT EXCELLENT. FEEDBACK FROM THE
COMMITTEE A MISCARRIAGE
RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR UNCLE
THANK YOU THE MOTION IS TO PASS
AS AMENDED TO APPROPRIATIONS
COMMITTEE ESCORT PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL MAIENSCHEIN I MEAN TRAIN
AYE CONNELLY. CONNELLY I DIXON
NO. TEXANO. HANEY HANEY I KALRA
. CHECK OUT HI JACKO I HAPPEN.
HAPPEN I REYES. REYES I SEE.
BEGINNER THE CAMERA YOUR BILL IS
OUT THANK YOU THANK YOU CENTER
DOT.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS.
PROCEED I'M PRESENTING- THREE
TEN SB THREE TEN PERTAINING TO
CULTURAL BURKE. SB THREE TEN
WOULD RECOGNIZE TRIBAL
SOVEREIGNTY WITH RESPECT TO
CULTURAL BURNING PRACTICES
DEFINED AS THE INTENTIONAL
APPLICATION OF FIRE I CULTURAL
FIRE PRACTITIONERS. TO ACHIEVE
CULTURAL. GOALS AND OBJECTIVES.
THE BILL WOULD BEST A STORY IN
THE NOT IN THE SECRETARY OF
NATURAL RESOURCES TO DECIDE IF
IN RECOGNITION OF TRIBAL
SOVEREIGNTY CERTAIN STATE
APPROVALS FOR CULTURAL BURNING
MAY BE WAIVED. TRIBES AND NATIVE
PEOPLE OF RETAIN CONTROL AND
SOVEREIGNTY OVER CULTURAL BERNIE
FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS. THE
STATE'S WILDFIRE FORCED
RESILIENCE TASK FORCES DOUBLES
IT WOULD SUPPORT ENABLED THE
EXPANSION OF CULTURAL BURNING
FOR THE HEALTH AND WELL BEING OF
ALL COMMUNITIES. PURSUANT TO AN
AGREEMENT WITH THE STATE
RESOURCES SECRETARY NATIVE
AMERICAN TRIBES WOULD NOT ONLY
BE ABLE TO CONTINUE THEIR
CULTURAL BURNING PRACTICES BUT
ALSO BENEFIT FROM THE
PROTECTIONS GRANTED TO CERTIFIED
BURN BOSSES. AND HAVE ACCESS TO
THIS PRESCRIBED FIRE LIABILITY
PILOT PROGRAM WHICH WAS
ESTABLISHED BY MY SB NINE TWENTY
SIX LAST SESSION. THE BILL
SUPPORTED BY A NUMBER OF
ORGANIZATIONS INCLUDING THE
PACIFIC FOREST TRUST DEFENDERS
OF WILDLIFE CALIFORNIA FARM
BUREAU AND THE HUMBOLDT REDWOOD
TIMBER COMPANY AMONG OTHERS WITH
ME TODAY IS JOHN AT CHIANA.
ARCHER REPRESENTING THE KARUK
TRIBE I RESPECTFULLY ASK DR.
GOOD AFTERNOON MY NAME IS JOHN
ARCHER AND I'M AN ATTORNEY ISSUE
MALIAN WEINBERGER A PUBLIC
INTEREST LAW FIRM HAS BEEN
WORKING WITH THE GROUP TRIBE ON
CULTURAL BURNING FOR A NUMBER OF
YEARS- WE ASK FOR YOUR AYE VOTE
TODAY ON SB THREE TON. TRIBE THE
NATIVE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE BEEN
PRACTICING CULTURAL BURNING
SINCE TIME IMMEMORIAL IT IS USED
TO STUART PLANTS AND USE FOR
BASKET WEAVING FOOD AND MEDICINE
IT IS USED TO CREATE AND
MAINTAIN HABITAT FOR IMPORTANT
SPECIES. AND IT REDUCES THE RISK
OF CATASTROPHIC WILDFIRE BY
REDUCING FUEL LOADS AND CREATING
RESILIENT ECOSYSTEMS. TRIBES ARE
KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT THIS
PRACTICE AND HAVE NEVER CEDED
CONTROL OVER CULTURAL BURNING.
SB THREE TON WOULD FORMALLY
RECOGNIZE TRIBAL SOVEREIGNTY
REGARDING CULTURAL BURNING IT
WOULD ENABLE THE SECRETARY OF
NATURAL RESOURCES TO ENTER INTO
AGREEMENTS WITH FEDERALLY
RECOGNIZED CALIFORNIA TRIBES TO
COORDINATE CROSS CULTURAL
BURNING ACTIVITIES ON. THEIR
ANCESTRAL TERRITORIES
SPECIFICALLY THE SECRETARY WOULD
BE AUTHORIZED TO FIND THAT STATE
PERMITS ISSUED BY CAL FIRE AND
AIR DISTRICTS WOULD NOT BE
REQUIRED FOR CULTURAL BRING
PROGRAMS. INSTEAD HEALTH AND
SAFETY ISSUES WOULD BE HANDLED
BY TRIBAL LAW IN COORDINATION
WITH STATE. REGARDING AIR
QUALITY ISSUES TRIED TO WORK
WITH THE- SECRETARY OF THE EPA
WHICH OVERSEES CARDS AND LOCAL
AIR DISTRICTS TO ENSURE
COORDINATION AROUND SMOKE
IMPACTS AND SB THREE TEN
INCLUDES A SMALL. BUT VERY
IMPORTANT EXPANSION OF TWENTY
TWENTY ONE LEGISLATION ON
PRESCRIBED FIRE LIABILITY SB
THREE THREE TWO ALSO AUTHORED BY
SENATOR DODD MADE IT LESS
LIKELY. THAT PRIVATE LANDOWNERS
AND NONPROFITS WOULD RECEIVE
SUPPRESSION COSTS BILLS IF THEY
NEEDED HELP WITH AN ESCAPED
PRESCRIBED FIRE. SO LONG AS WE
WERE FOLLOWING BEST PRACTICES.
SB THREE TON WOULD ALLOW
FEDERALLY QUALIFIED FOR BOSSES
TO RELY ON THE SAME LIABILITY
STANDARD WHICH IS NEEDED TO
ADDRESS WORKFORCE ISSUES. SO
AGAIN WE REQUEST YOUR AYE VOTE
AND THANK YOU. FOR YOUR TIME
THANK YOU WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
THANK YOU ANY OF. AND SUPPORT-
MORE. OF A MID PENINSULA OPENS
REGIONAL OPEN SPACE DISTRICT IN
SUPPORT THANK YOU SEEN A
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT WITNESSES
IN OPPOSITION. SOME OF. ON THE.
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS.
RENDON TOOK ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA AIR POLLUTION CONTROL
OFFICERS ASSOCIATION I WHICH
REPRESENTS SECRET EXECUTIVE
OFFICERS FROM ALL THIRTY FIVE
LOCAL AIR DISTRICTS RESPECTFULLY
WE HAVE AN OPPOSE UNLESS AMENDED
POSITION WE AGREE THAT CULTURAL
BURNS AND PRESCRIBED FIRE
GENERALLY ARE A HIGHLY EFFECTIVE
TOOL. AT REDUCING WILDFIRE RISK
INNER IMPLEMENTING PROGRAMS AND
ENGAGING IN COLLABORATIVE
DISCUSSIONS TO EXPAND PRESCRIBED
FIRE IN FACT FROM TWENTY
NINETEEN TO TWENTY TWENTY ONE
DISTRICTS APPROVED 99% OF
REQUESTED PRESCRIBED BURNS.
WE'RE ACTIVELY ADVOCATING FOR
PRESCRIBED FIRE AT THE FEDERAL
LEVEL BY ENGAGING WITH USEPA. AS
A CONSIDERS THE FEDERAL PM TWO
POINT FIVE NATIONALLY AMBIENT
AIR QUALITY STANDARDS BECAUSE
WE'RE CONCERNED THAT SHOULD THE
STANDARDS BE PROMULGATED WITHOUT
CONSIDERATION OF THE EMISSIONS
FROM PRESCRIBED FIRE THE
CALIFORNIA WILL PEOPLE BE
PREVENTED FROM CONTINUING TO USE
IT TO MITIGATE THE NEGATIVE
IMPACTS OF WILDFIRE WILDFIRE
SMOKE. AIR DISTRICTS IN
PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CALIFORNIA
AIR RESOURCES BOARD KALIFORNIA
RAN MANAGERS. TRIBES AND OTHERS
WORK CLOSELY TO ENSURE THAT
EMISSIONS FROM PRESCRIBED FIRES
DO NOT SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACT DOWN
WHEN COMMUNITIES. AND THE
CURRENT PERMITTING PROCESS
CONSIDERS FACTORS SUCH AS
METEOROLOGICAL CONDITIONS FIRE
SUPPRESSION TECHNIQUES AND
LOCATION TO THE NEAREST
POPULATION CENTERS AMONG OTHERS
AND THE PERMITS ALSO INCLUDE
PUBLIC NOTIFICATION AND SMOKE
MODELING REQUIREMENTS TO HELP
INFORM POTENTIALLY AFFECTED
AREAS. CONSISTENT WITH THE US
CONSTITUTION DISTRICTS DON'T
REQUIRE TRIBES TO OBTAIN PERMITS
FOR CULTURAL BURNS ON FEDERALLY
RECOGNIZED TRUST LANDS. HOWEVER
BECAUSE OF THE DEFINITION. OF
ANCESTRAL TERRITORY IN THIS BILL
WITH THE SIGN OFF OF THE
SECRETARIES OF NATURAL RESOURCES
AND CALLIE PA CULTURAL BURNS
COULD BE ALLOWED ANYWHERE IN THE
STATE WITHOUT THE SAFETY
MEASURES I DESCRIBED. SB THREE
TEN WOULD OVERRIDE LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS ABILITY TO PROTECT
PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY BY
SHIFTING AUTHORITY FOR MAKING
BURN DECISIONS. TO THE STATE RUN
DECISIONS ARE MADE USING A
HIGHLY LOCALIZED. I NEED A RAP
ON REAL TIME AND WRAPPING UP
MISTER CHAIR AND IT IS OUR
CONCERN THAT WITHOUT THE STATE A
PRESCRIBED BURN DECISIONS WILL
BE BASED ON INCOMPLETE KNOWLEDGE
AND RESTRICT RISING PUBLIC
HEALTH AND SAFETY SO WE'RE
ASKING THAT THE AMENDMENTS. ARE
OF LIMITED EXEMPTIONS TO FEDERAL
TRUST LAND RETAIN LOCAL
PERMITTING TO ENSURE PUBLIC
HEALTH AND SAFETY IS PROTECT
THANK YOU NEXT WITNESS. THANK
YOU TEARING COMMITTEE MEMBERS MY
NAME IS KELLY THE NORMAL AND I
RUN THE PRESCRIBED FIRE PROGRAM
AT THE CALIFORNIA AIR POLLUTION
CONTROL OFFICERS ASSOCIATION.
I'M JUST HERE TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE
THANK YOU WITH FOR THE WITNESSES
IN OPPOSITION NAME AN
ORGANIZATIONALLY PLACE. DAVID
KING TANA SOUTH COAST AIR
QUALITY MANAGEMENT DISTRICT WE
ALIGN OUR POSITION OPPOSE UNLESS
AMENDED WITH AIR POLLUTION
CONTROL OFFICERS THANK YOU SEE
NO FURTHER WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION A QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS FROM THE COMMITTEE.
REDRESS. I UNDERSTAND THAT ONE
OF THE CONCERNS IS THAT. NOTICE
WILL NO LONGER BE GIVEN ON THE
BURNS. IS THAT STILL AN ISSUE.
I'M SO. NOTICE MAY BE AN ISSUE
IN SOME CASES BUT WE- THAT
SHOULD BE ADDRESSED AT THE
AGREEMENT STAGE NOT IN THE
LEGISLATION- IN ORDER FOR TRIBES
TO BE ABLE TO CONDUCT CULTURAL
BURNING WITHOUT PERMITS THEY
WOULD FIRST NEED TO. OF COURSE
ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE
SECRETARY OF NATURAL RESOURCES-
WHEN IT COMES AIR QUALITY THAT
WOULD INVOLVE CAL BA IT WOULD
APPALL CARB AND CARB SPEAKS
EVERY DAY WITH LOCAL AIR
DISTRICTS. AND SO ANY ISSUES
ABOUT NOTICES AND THOSE LOCAL
CONTROL. OR LOCAL CONCERNS WE
BELIEVE WOULD BE ABLE TO BE
ADEQUATELY ADDRESSED IN THE
AGREEMENT OF. THANK YOU. GIVE ME
FOR QUESTIONS OR THAT ANSWER
YOUR QUESTION ANSWERED OKAY
THANK YOU ANSWER QUESTIONS. ANY
FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS
FROM THE COMMITTEE. C. NINE TO
EMOTION. MOVE THE BILL. MOTION
FOR MS REYES SECOND FOR MISTER
HANEY- SATURDAY MAY CLOSE
RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU OUT THANK
YOU THE MOTION IS TO PASS AS
AMENDED TO THE PROGRAM. TO PASS.
JUST TO PASS TO. TO PERHAPS-
ESCORT BASED KALRA MENTION I
MENTIONED I CALMLY. FINALLY I
DIXON. DIXON I HANEY. AMY HI
KALRA. THE CHECK OUT. THE CHECK-
I. PATENTS. HAPPENED I REYES I
RESIDE SANCIOUS. MECHANIC THE
CHARACTERS YOUR BILL IS OUT
THANK YOU. THE CENTER FRAZIER
MEMBERS WELCOME. GEN- CENTER
BRADFORD SB SEVEN HUNDRED.
MORNING I GET AFTERNOON THIS
YEAR I'M HERE TO PRESENT SB
SEVEN HUNDRED A MEASURE THAT
STRENGTHENS EXISTING LAW TO
PROTECT EMPLOYEES AND APPLICANTS
FOR EMPLOYMENT DISCRIMINATION
BASED ON LEGAL CANNABIS
CONSUMPTION LAST YEAR
LEGISLATURE MADE IT UNLAWFUL FOR
EMPLOYERS TO DISCRIMINATE
AGAINST A PERSON AND HIRING
TERMINATION OR CONDITIONS OF
EMPLOYMENT SIMPLY BECAUSE THE
PERSONS ARE. OFTEN OFF THE JOB-
CANNABIS CONSUMPTION. HOWEVER
SOME EMPLOYERS COULD JUNE TWO
EMPLOYEES ZERO TOLERANCE
POLICIES ON CANNABIS USE AN ASKS
APPLICANTS WHETHER THEY HAVE
USED CANNABIS RECREATIONALLY
PRIOR TO EMPLOYMENT THIS
PRACTICE IS NOT ONLY TO SWAGE
CANDIDATES FROM APPLYING FOR
THESE POSITIONS BUT ALSO LEADS
TO SITUATIONS IN WHICH
INDIVIDUALS RESPOND THIS ON HIS
FOOT HONESTLY TO GET A JOB. MANY
ARE PREVENTED FROM- MOVING
FURTHER IN THE APPLICATION
PROCESS SIMPLY FOR USING
CANNABIS IN A LEGAL AND
RESPONSIBLE MANNER- WHICH WAS
LEGALIZED IN TWO THOUSAND
SIXTEEN BY PROP SIXTY FOUR. SB
SEVEN HUNDRED EXPOSES EXPLICITLY
MAKES IT UNLAWFUL FOR EMPLOYERS
TO REQUEST INFORMATION FROM AN
APPLICANT RELATING TO THEIR
PRIOR YOU SEE CANNABIS THIS BILL
PRESERVES PRESERVES. PROVISIONS
AB TWENTY ONE EIGHTY EIGHT
INCLUDING EXEMPTION FOR
EMPLOYEES SUBJECT TO THE FEDERAL
BACKGROUND CHECK- IN THIS
CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY. R. A. D.
IT DOES NOTHING TO CHANGE
EXISTING LAW PERTAINING TO
TESTING FOR CANNABIS AND
PROHIBITING CANNABIS USE ON THE
JOB. INSURANCE AND PLAYERS CAN
MAINTAIN A DRUG FREE WORKPLACE.
I REQUEST RIVAL. THANK YOU FIRST
WENT WITH. WHEN MOTION FOR MISS
PAP IN. THEIR SECOND. SACRAMENTS
MECHANICS THANK YOU MAY PROCEED.
PAMELA LOPEZ ON BEHALF OF
CALIFORNIA NORMAL I WILL KEEP
THIS SHORT AND SWEET WE ARE SO
GRATEFUL TO SENATOR BRADFORD FOR
INTRODUCING THIS BILL WE ARE
SPONSORED AB TWENTY ONE EIGHTY
EIGHT LAST YEAR BECAUSE CANNABIS
CONSUMPTION IS LEGAL IN THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA EMPLOYEES DO
NOT BELONG TO THEIR EMPLOYERS
WHEN THEY'RE NOT AT WORK. WE'RE
SO HAPPY TO HAVE THIS FURTHER
AND LEGISLATION TO CLARIFY THAT
IN ADDITION TO NOT
DISCRIMINATING AGAINST EMPLOYEES
TO CONSUME WHEN THEY'RE NOT AT
WORK EMPLOYERS MAY NOT ASK ABOUT
THEIR PREVIOUS CANNABIS USE
THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT. CHRISTINE
HOW TO WORK ON BEHALF OF YOUR C.
W. WESTERN STATES COUNCIL IN
SUPPORT THANK YOU SEEN OFFERED
FURTHER WITNESSES AND SUPPORT
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION. SCENE
NINE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM
THE COMMITTEE. SCENE NINE WE DO
HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND
ASSEMBLY EVERY MAKE CLOTHES
SPOKE WITH US FOR YOUR VOTE
THANK YOU. THE MOTIONS TO PASS
THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE
ASKED HER TO CALL THE ROLL
MAIENSCHEIN I MEAN CHEN AYE
CONNELLY. CONNELLY I'D DIXON.
DIXON NO HANEY. CHENEY I KALRA
CHECK OUT. CHECK I. PAP IN.
HAPPEN I REYES. AYE REYES AYE
SANCHEZ BEGINNER. WE CAN ARRIVE
. YOUR BILL IS OUT THANK YOU
THANK YOU AS CHAIR MEMBERS. WE
ARE WAITING ON AUTHORS. THANK
YOU. WE'RE WAITING ON- CENTERS
EGGMAN PORTANTINO. LÀ MON
NEWMAN. OVER AUTO CAL. WOW
USUALLY PEOPLE. WELL WELL DONE.
I WAS. WHERE YOU JUST RIGHT
OUTSIDE THE DOOR LIKE. I SAID
GOOD WELL WELCOME CENTER EGGMAN.
VERY MAY PROCEED. WE ARE. HELLO
COMMITTEE.
OKAY READY OKAY A GOOD AFTERNOON
EVERYBODY THAT'S NICE TO BE HERE
TODAY AND TODAY I'M PRESENTING
AB S. B. SB- TWENTY. TO FORTY
FOR THE RIGHT TO REPAIR SOME WHO
HAVE SERVED WITH ME FOR A WHILE
THIS MAY SOUND FAMILIAR THE GUY
FIRST ARE WORKING ON THIS IN
TWENTY EIGHTEEN- AND HERE WE ARE
HOPEFULLY GONNA GET ACROSS THE
FINISH LINE THIS YEAR- WE KNOW
THERE'S BEEN A MOVEMENT ACROSS
THE COUNTRY WORKING ON THESE
ISSUES ARE ALL RIGHT TO REPAIR.
I MEAN IF YOU BUY THIS DO YOU
OWN IT OR DOES THE COMPANY ON IT
BECAUSE IF YOU OWN IT YOU SHOULD
BE ABLE TO GET IT FIXED WHERE
YOU WANT TO GET IT FIXED AND YOU
SHOULDN'T BE TIED. BACK
SOMEWHERE ELSE BECAUSE MY LEASE
IT TELL ME AT LEAST IN IT AND
THEN I'LL FOLLOW THE RULES BUT
IF I'M GONNA BUY IT AND TURN IT-
THEN WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE
THE RIGHT TO HAVE THE PARTS- THE
SCHEMATIC TO FIX IT. IN THE
TOOLS TO BE ABLE DO SUCH THINGS-
SAYS WITH THIS BILL WILL TO MAKE
THE PARTS TOOLS DOCUMENTATION
AND SOFTWARE NEEDED FOR CONSUMER
ELECTRONIC AND APPLIANCE REPAIR
ACCESSIBLE TO INDEPENDENT REPAIR
SHOPS AND CONSUMERS IT HAS BEEN
A KIND OF A MARKET DEVELOP
STRATEGY. TO TIRES BACK TO THE-
PRODUCER OF OUR- OF OUR DEVICES
WERE ALL TIED TO THEM- WE USE
THEM EVERY SINGLE DAY
CALIFORNIA'S THROWAWAY FORTY SIX
THOUSAND PHONES. A DAY. AND WE
CAN THINK ABOUT WHAT THAT DOES
TO OUR WASTE STREAM WHAT THAT
DOES TO OUR- PRECIOUS RESOURCES
AROUND THE WORLD. AS WE HAVE-
KIDS SOMETIMES MINING. UP PARTS
THAT WE DON'T NECESSARY CARE FOR
- AS WE BECOME MORE AND MORE.
DEPENDENT OF COURSE ARE THE
AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE SPEND.
EVERY DAY EVERY WEEK EVERY MONTH
CONTINUES TO GO UP- SO. WE'VE
AMENDED THIS BILL- IN BOTH
HOUSES WE THINK IT IS IN A VERY
GOOD SPACE YOU'LL SEE FOR THE
FIRST TIME WE DON'T HAVE THAT.
VIGOROUS OPPOSITION THAT WE'VE
HAD BEFORE WHEN IT THIS DIED
WITHOUT EVEN HEARING OR DIED IN
THE DARK OF NIGHT- WE ARE AT NOW
IN OUR FINAL COMMITTEE HEARING-
AND MAKING GOOD PROGRESS SO FAR.
AND WITH ME TODAY IS THAT
REBEKAH MARKETS ON BEHALF OF
CALVARY AS WELL AS CHAO CHEN
MOVED FROM THE ELECTRONIC
FRONTIER FOUNDATION. THANK YOU.
FIRST WITNESS GOOD AFTERNOON
CHARMAINE CHINA MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE MY NAME IS REBECCA
MARC S. I'M HERE TODAY
REPRESENTING. HEARD AS STATEWIDE
CONSUMER GROUP AND A PROUD CO
SPONSOR OF SB TWO FOUR FOR OUR
STATE AND COUNTRY HAS ELECTRONIC
WASTE PROBLEM CALIFORNIAN
HOUSEHOLDS ALONE PRODUCE AN
ESTIMATED SEVEN HUNDRED SEVENTY
TWO THOUSAND TONS OF E. WASTE
EACH YEAR. WHICH LEACH TOXIC
CHEMICALS IN TURN FIREMAN THIS
NUMBER SO HIGH IN PART BECAUSE
MANUFACTURERS OF DEVICES RANGING
FROM SMARTPHONES TO
REFRIGERATORS RESTRICT ACCESS TO
NECESSARY- REPAIR MATERIALS. AS
A RESULT CONSUMERS ARE FORCED TO
GO TO THE ORIGINAL MANUFACTURER
WHO CONSENT REPAIR PRICES SO
HIGH THAT IT MAKES SENSE TO JUST
BUY A NEW DEVICE. SB TWO FOUR
FOUR WOULD BRING MORE
COMPETITION AND CONSUMER CHOICE
HERE MARKET PLACE WITH MORE
OPTIONS FOR REPAIR CONSUMERS CAN
IT MORE AFFORDABLY FIX OUR
DEVICES WHICH IS EXPECTED TO
SAVE EACH OF US. ARE THE
CALIFORNIA HOUSEHOLDS TOTAL FIVE
BILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR SB TWO
FOUR FOUR WILL ALSO PROVIDE MORE
OPPORTUNITIES FOR SMALL
BUSINESSES SMALL LOCAL REPAIR
BUSINESSES ACROSS THE STATE. ARE
STRUGGLING WITH 59% OF SHOPS
SURVEYED INDICATING THEY MIGHT
HAVE TO CLOSE OUR DOORS. IF
MANUFACTURERS CONTINUE TO
RESTRICT ACCESS TO REPAIR
MATERIALS. OPPONENTS MAY BRING
UP CONCERNS RELATED TO SAFETY
TRADE SECRETS AND CYBER
SECURITY. THE FTC INVESTIGATED
THESE AND OTHER CONCERNS AND
FOUND QUOTE SCANT EVIDENCE TO
SUPPORT. MANUFACTURERS TRUST
JUST CASE IN. FOR A RUSSIANS
UNQUOTE THEY ARE STATED THAT THE
CHAIN. WE ARE WELLS BY COMMENTS
FOR THE RECORD AND TESTIMONY
PROVIDED. THE RIGHT TO REPAIR IS
AN IDEA WHOSE TIME HAS COME AND
WE URGE YOUR IPHONE. THANK YOU
NEXT WITNESS. CRAP NEWMAN IS
CHARGING NEW CONTOUR FOUNDATION
TESTING SUPPORT OF SB TWO FOUR
FOUR. IN A BRIEF TO THE U. S.
DISTRICT COURT MASSACHUSETTS EFF
ANOTHER LEADING REPAIR ADVOCATES
AND AT AND ECONOMIC DEFENDED
MASSACHUSETTS RECENT REPAIR LAW.
I DEBUNKING THE CLAIM THAT
GRANTING ACCESS DEVICE OWNERS IS
SOMEHOW A THREAT. AS WE STATED
IN THE BRIEF BECAUSE OF THE HIGH
RELATIVE REALISTIC RISK OF DATA
BREACHES. I WAS A KID ACCESS TO
SAVOR TO SECURE DATA SECURITY
SYSTEMS THAT RELY PRIMARILY ON
SECRECY OF CERTAIN INFORMATION
TO PREVENT ILLICIT ACCESS OR
USE. THESE EXPRESS LIVE WHY
SUPPORT INCREASING CUSTOMER
ACCESS TO DATA AND ENABLING
INDEPENDENT REPAIR. AS NOTED FTC
ITSELF ON THE INDEPENDENT REPAIR
SHOPS ARE ANY MORE OR LESS
LIKELY THAN OPERATE SHOPS TO
LEAK OR MISUSE DATA. AND THE
TRUTH IS THE INDEPENDENT THE
INFORMATION SECURITY FIELD IS
ABSOLUTELY RELIANT UPON
INDEPENDENT SECURITY RESEARCHERS
PROBING SYSTEMS AND DISCLOSING
WHAT THEY DISCOVER. COMPANIES
MAY CLAIM THAT GIVING CONSUMERS.
WHAT THEY NEED TO REPAIR THEIR
OWN DEVICES WILL FORCE HIM TO
DIVULGE TRADE SECRETS. BUT THE
BILL'S CLEAR THAT ALL COMPANIES
NEED TO SHARE IS WHAT'S
NECESSARY FOR REPAIR. WHEN I
ASKING FOR TRADE SECRETS OR
SOURCE CODE JUST THE SAME TOOLS
PARTS AND DOCUMENTATION. THEY'RE
ALREADY PROVIDING TO AUTHORIZE
SHOPS. ALSO JUST BECAUSE THE
COMPANY WANTS TO TREAT SOMETHING
OF THE TREES YOU CAN DOES NOT
MEAN THE LAW OUGHT TO LET THEM.
WHO COMPANIES MAY NOT WANT TO
THE EVOLUTION TRISHNA FACT ABOUT
THEIR FOODS. THE LAW MAKES THEM
DO SO FOR SOCIETAL BETTERMENT.
REPAIR COMPANIES RESTRICTING
REPAIR AND LIMITING COMPETITION
INCREASES COST TO CONSUMERS.
WITH SB TWO FOUR FOUR WE ARE
STEPS WE CAN STEP IN AND SAY
THAT IS NOT OKAY. GIVE CONSUMERS
ACCESS TO THEIR OWN DEVICES
INFORMATION IS NOT A THREAT
COURTS AND CONGRESS AGREED. THAT
HERE COMPANIES IP RIGHTS DO NOT
TRUMP CONSUMERS PROPERTY RIGHTS.
SB TWO FOUR FOR THE SURFACE OF A
WRITING CALIFORNIA THAT'S WHY WE
URGE. WE ASK FOR YOUR AYE VOTE
TODAY. THANK YOU. FOR THE WINTER
AND SOME. THE NAME IN OUR- ONLY
PLACE. AFTER CHAIR MEMBERS SUCH
WERE WITH LAWCENTER UNIFIED
SCHOOL DISTRICT IN SUPPORT. THE
PUBLIC CALIFORNIANS AGAINST
WEEDS A PROMPT RESPONSE OF THE
BILL IN SUPPORT. ALSO VOICING
SUPPORT FROM SIERRA CLUB
CALIFORNIA. FRENCH COMMITTEE ON
LEGISLATION CALIFORNIA AND
CONSUMER REPORTS. IS THIS WILL
NEVER SHOW YOUR AND HE SMILES
ARE LYING ON BEHALF LISTED
APOLOGIZED. STOP WASTE
CALIFORNIA PRODUCT STEWARDSHIP
COUNCIL SOLID WASTE ASSOCIATION
OF NORTH AMERICA LEGISLATIVE
TASK FORCE CALIFORNIA CHAPTERS.
WESTERN PLASTER WASTE MANAGEMENT
AUTHORITY NATIONAL STEWARDSHIP
ACTION COUNCIL CITY OF BEVERLY
HILLS AND FINALLY THE CITY AND
COUNTY OF SAN FRANCISCO ON
SUPPORT THANK YOU. MAREGA ON
BEHALF OF BREAST CANCER
PREVENTION PARTNERS TO CLEAN
SEAS LOBBYING COALITION RECENT
QUESTION SUPPORT. THANK YOU SEEN
NO FURTHER WITNESSES AND SUPPORT
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION.
GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIR MEMBERS
DEAN TELL OF THE CALIFORNIA
MANUFACTURERS AND TECHNOLOGY
ASSOCIATION. WE VERY MUCH
APPRECIATE THE NUMEROUS
CONVERSATIONS WITH THE AUTHOR
AND STAFF AS IT RELATES TO THE
VERY SPECIFIC ISSUES RAISED BY
OUR MEMBERSHIP. DESPITE THESE
CONVERSATIONS IN THE RATIONALE
SUPPORTING THE AMENDMENTS AND
ASKED THAT WE HAVE BEEN BROUGHT
FORWARD FOR THE BILL TO ADDRESS
SOME OF THESE ISSUES IS STILL
NOT BEEN ACCEPTED BY THE AUTHOR
SO. FOR US THE MEMBERSHIP THAT
ARE COMPLETELY WITHIN SCOPE OF
THIS WE FIND OURSELVES IN A
POSITION WHERE EVEN THE BEST
AMENDMENTS WITH THE INTENTIONS
AND TRANSPARENCY REQUIRED ARE
NOT SUFFICIENT FOR US REMOVE OUR
OPPOSITION RESPECTFULLY. OUR
MEMBERS ARE THE INTERNATIONAL
LEADERS IN INNOVATION AND
TECHNOLOGICAL DEVELOPMENT OF THE
ECONOMIST VEHICLES AEROSPACE AND
DEFENSE SYSTEMS THAT OPERATE
GLOBALLY SATELLITE AND GPS
TECHNOLOGY UTILIZED BY OUR
MILITARY AND EVERYTHING ELSE
INCLUDED WITHIN THE
MANUFACTURING SPECTRUM IN
CALIFORNIA. FOR INDUSTRY RIGHT
TO REPAIR FRAMEWORKS HAVE BEEN
ONGOING IN CALIFORNIA AND
NATIONALLY FOR MANY YEARS NOW.
THE LEGISLATIVE BODIES ROLE IN
THIS DEBATE IS BALLOTS IN THE
CONSUMER INTEREST IN HAVING THE
RIGHT TO REPAIR WITH THE
SOMETIMES PROPRIETARY AND
TECHNOLOGICAL INNOVATIONS OF
INDUSTRY AS WELL AS PERSONAL
SECURITY AND CONSUMER SAFETY
FROM OUR MEMBERSHIP PERSPECTIVE
EVEN WITH THE AMENDED LANGUAGE
AND COMMITTEE DIALOGUE THIS BILL
STILL REQUIRES OEM SHOULD
PROVIDE THE KNOW HOW TO DIAGNOSE
AND REPAIR PRODUCT. BUT DOES SO
WITH THAT WITHOUT ADEQUATE
CONSUMER PROTECTION THAT IS
AFFORDED BY OUR REPAIR NETWORKS
WERE OFTENTIMES FEDERALLY
REGULATED. TRAINED INCUMBENCY
AND POTENTIAL RISKS OR PUTS DATA
PRIVACY AND SECURITY AT RISK.
THE STATE MUST SATISFY THIS
REQUIREMENT AND KEEP PROPRIETARY
AND COMPETITIVE ENGINEERING FROM
BEING DISCLOSED TO THE PUBLIC.
CAUSING POTENTIAL HARM TO
CONSUMERS AND BUSINESSES ALIKE.
CALIFORNIA MANUFACTURERS ARE
MAKING SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENTS
IN DEVELOPING PRODUCTS AND
SERVICES AND PROTECTING OUR
INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY IS A
LEGITIMATE CONCERN TO SUSTAIN
FUTURE INNOVATIONS IN A DIVERSE.
TECHNOLOGICAL INDUSTRY THIS BILL
WOULD FORCE MANUFACTURERS TO
MAKE SIGNIFICANT REDESIGNS TO
THE PRODUCT ROADMAP AND SUPPLY
CHAINS. EVEN WITH THESE CONCERNS
HIM TWO YEARS MEMBERSHIP IS
STILL UNCLEAR AS TO WHAT
PRODUCTS ARE AND ARE NOT WITHIN
THE SCOPE OF THIS BILL. A
SPECIFIC AND NARROWLY CRAFTED
RIGHT TO REPAIR BILL IS NEEDED
AND WHAT WE SHOULD LEVEL YOU CAN
LANGUAGE. COMING ALASKA MILLIE
WAS STILL NOT CONVINCED THIS IS.
NOT WE REMAIN. THANK YOU WITNESS
. THANK YOU MISTER CHAIRMAN
VIRTUALLY ANY TALK IT WITH
TECHNET AND WE HAVE AN OPPOSE
UNLESS AMENDED POSITION. ON SB
TWO FORTY FOUR I'D LIKE TO START
BY THANKING THE AUTHOR AND HER
STAFF FOR THE AMENDMENTS THAT
HAVE ALREADY BEEN TAKEN.
INCLUDING CRITICAL LANGUAGE THAT
PROVIDES LIABILITY PROTECTIONS
FOR MANUFACTURERS AND THAT
ACKNOWLEDGES THE IMPORTANCE OF
PROTECTING TRADE SECRETS AND
INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY WE DO
STILL HAVE A FEW REMAINING
CONCERNS THAT IF ADDRESSED WOULD
REMOVE OUR OPPOSITION. FIRST SB
TWO FORTY FOUR IS RETROACTIVE TO
JULY FIRST TWENTY TWENTY ONE.
REQUIRING EXISTING PRODUCTS TO
MEET RETROACTIVE REPAIR
STANDARDS IMPOSES NEW
UNANTICIPATED COSTS ON
MANUFACTURERS AND CREATES AN
UNFAIR COMPETITIVE LANDSCAPE. IN
ORDER TO COMPLY WITH THE BILL
MANUFACTURES MANY TO RENEGOTIATE
COMPLETED SUPPLY CONTRACTS OR
CREATE NEW AND COSTLY SUPPLY
CHAINS FOR DISCONTINUED
PRODUCTS. COMPANIES HAVE ALREADY
MADE STRATEGIC PRICING DECISIONS
BASED ON COST ASSESSMENTS AND
OTHER PAST BUSINESS
CONSIDERATIONS. SECOND OF A
MANUFACTURER LACKS AN EXISTING
REPAIR NETWORK THE BILL WOULD
ALSO FORCE MANUFACTURERS TO
PROVIDE THEIR IN HOUSE
OFFERINGS. IN MANY CASES THESE
DIAGNOSTIC OR REPAIRS SERVICES
ARE OFFERED EXCLUSIVELY IN
HOUSE. THE DIAGNOSES AND REPAIRS
ARE CONDUCTED UNDER CONTROLLED
ENVIRONMENTS AND MAY REQUIRE
EXTENSIVE TECHNICAL AND SAFETY
PROTOCOL MANUFACTURERS SHOULD
NOT BE REQUIRED TO TREAT AND
HOUSE REPAIRS THE SAME AS THOSE
THAT ARE ARRANGED WITH AN
AUTHORIZED REPAIR PROVIDER. BY
REMOVING THIS REQUIREMENT THE
BILL WOULD STILL RETAIN THE
PARITY IT CREATES BETWEEN WHAT
MANUFACTURERS PROVIDE TO
AUTHORIZED REPAIR NETWORKS AND
WHAT THEY ARE ALSO REQUIRED TO
PROVIDE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
FINALLY WE ASK THAT THE FAIR AND
REASONABLE TERMS LANGUAGE IN THE
BILL ADDRESS PARTS TOOLS AND
DOCUMENTATION AT THE MOMENT THE
ONLY COVER TOOLS AND
DOCUMENTATION. AGAIN WE'RE VERY
APPRECIATIVE OF THE AUTHOR'S
OFFICE FOR THEIR CONTINUED WORK
WITH US ON THESE REMAINING
CONCERNS AND WE RESPECTFULLY
OPPOSE SB TWO FORTY FOUR UNLESS
AMENDED THANK YOU THANK YOU FOR
THE WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION.
GOOD AFTERNOON TURN MEMBERS
SEVENTY MORAL HERE ABOUT THE
CONSUMER TECHNOLOGY ASSOCIATION
APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATIONS WE
HAD AND LOOK FOR IT AT
DISCUSSION THANK YOU. NEXT
EITHER ON BEHALF OF THE
ASSOCIATION OF HOME APPLIANCE
MANUFACTURERS OPPOSED. THANK YOU
SEE NO FURTHER WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS
FROM COMMITTEE. C. STE CAR. JUST
JUST WANNA ASK AGAIN IS A CO
AUTHOR. THANK YOU. I SEE NO
FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS
RECOMMENDED WE HAVE MOTION.
MOTION FOR MISTER CAR SECOND
FROM MS REYES. SENATE MANY MAKE
CLOSE THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND
THANKS TO THE OPPOSITION WE'RE
ALWAYS GLAD TO WORK WITH FOLKS
AND HAVE STRESSED THAT
REPEATEDLY THROUGHOUT. THE
PROCESS WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT
SPACESHIPS HERE WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT PERSONAL DEVICES I GOT A
BRAND NEW- DISHWASHER THAT WENT
OUT AGAIN THIRD TIME- THAT I
HAVE TO HAVE A REPAIR PERSON
COME BACK I GOT STANDING WATER.
IN MY DISHWASHER AS OPPOSED TO
MY NINETEEN FIFTY FOUR WHICH
WOULD OF AND I'VE GOT THE
REPAIRMAN COME BACK ALL THE TIME
AND THEY CAN JUST FIX IT. THAT'S
WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING
CREATING MORE MIDDLE CLASS JOBS
MAKING SURE PEOPLE HAVE THE
RIGHT TO BE ABLE TO FIX THEIR
THINGS PROVIDING THESE PARTS AND
REDUCING OUR WASTE. I ASK FOR
YOUR AYE VOTE PASSAGE SENATE
ALSO A THIRTY EIGHT ZERO
BIPARTISAN SUPPORT. THANK YOU SO
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND
MOTION IS TO PASS THE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE ASKED
THE COURT TO PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL MAIENSCHEIN I. MEAN CHINA
CONNELLY. CONNELLY I DIXON. ANY
ARE ANY KALRA. KALRA I'VE- OUT.
CHECK OUT MY PAP IN. HAPPEN I
REYES. REYES AYE SANCHEZ.
BEGINNER HI CAN I. THE BILL HAS
. THANK YOU VERY THANK YOU.
FIVE THREE.
THE ITEM LEVEL WELCOME YEAH YOU
MAY PROCEED THANK YOU SO MUCH.
MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS OF THIS ON
THE COMMITTEE SENATE BILL SEVEN
SIXTEEN SIMPLY AUTHORIZES AN
ORGANIZATION REPRESENTING A
STATE EXCLUDED EMPLOYEES TO
REQUEST ARBITRATION AFTER THEY
FILED A GRIEVANCE WITH
CALIFORNIA HUMAN RESOURCES
CURRENTLY THESE DISAGREEMENTS
ARE OFTEN FILED IN THE SUPERIOR
COURT WHICH CAN TAKE YEARS TO
RESOLVE AN ANCHOR LARGE EXPENSES
TO THE STATE. BINDING
ARBITRATION IS A USEFUL TOOL
THAT CAN HOLD BOTH SIDES
ACCOUNTABLE DURING THE PROCESS
AND HELPS TO RESOLVE ISSUES IN
GOOD FAITH AND IN A TIMELY
MANNER THIS BILL HAS PASSED
THROUGH THE PROCESS UNANIMOUSLY
AND IS DEDICATED TO ITS ORIGINAL
SPONSOR. THE LATE JOHN LEVEL
HERE TESTIFYING IS BRETT PERO
REPRESENTING THE CALIFORNIA
CORRECTIONS SUPERVISOR
ORGANIZATION THANK YOU FIRST
WITNESS MISTER CHAIRMAN ROBERT
WITH CALIFORNIA CORRECTIONAL
SUPERVISORS ORGANIZATION HERE
TODAY AS A SPONSOR OF SB SEVEN
SIXTEEN. I JUST WANT TO POINT
OUT A COUPLE OF POINTS IN THE IN
THE ANALYSIS TO DEAL WITH THE
GOVERNOR'S VETO OF A SIMILAR
BILL CAME THROUGH THIS-
COMMITTEE UNANIMOUSLY- BUT ONLY.
WITHIN ON HIS DESK AND THOSE
POINTS ARE THE FIRST HE MADE WAS
THAT SOMEHOW ARBITRATION WOULD
GO CONTRARY TO THE STATE
POLICIES OF THE STATE AND A
DECISION MAKING- WHEN IN FACT
THERE ARE ALREADY TWENTY ONE
RANK AND FILE BARGAINING UNITS
HAVE BEEN GRANTED BINDING
ARBITRATION TO THEIR CONTRACT
NEGOTIATIONS WITH CALLIE CHAR.
AND THE SECOND POINT WAS THE
COST OF EXIT ADDING AN EXTRA
STEP WELL THE EXTRA STEP NOW IS
SUPERIOR COURT AND WE WERE
RECENTLY AWARDED A GRIEVANCE
THAT RAN INTO THE HUNDREDS OF
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. THIS CASE
COULD HAVE BEEN SETTLED WITHIN
SIX MONTHS AND IT MAGNITUDE MUCH
CHEAPER COST SO WITH THAT I
WOULD URGE YOUR AYE VOTE I HAVE
WITH ME PAUL CURRY ALSO WITH THE
CCSO THANK REQUEST. NEXT WITNESS
. BUDGETARY MEMBERS PARKER WITH
CALIFORNIA CORRECTIONS TO. IS A
I'VE BEEN WITH THE ORGANIZATION
FOR FOURTEEN YEARS IN THE CASE
OF BRIT REFERRED TO WAS GONE
GOING WHEN I. WAS SELECTED TO
REPRESENT THEM- THIS MATTER
COULD HAVE BEEN RESOLVED AND
WITH A STATE TO STATE HUNDREDS
OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS PLUS YOU
ORGANIZATIONS AND- LET'S NOT
FORGET THE WORKERS. JUST THE
RIGHT IN THE ISSUE AT. POINT WAS
DECIDED BY THE U. S. LABOR
DEPARTMENT IN NINETEEN FORTY.
NINETEEN FORTY. AND CALLIE CHAR
AND HAS NOT MADE ANY MOVES TO
TRY TO RESOLVE THAT WITH THEM IN
LOS BANOS WENT TO SUPERIOR COURT
SO LAST YEAR I WROTE THANK YOU.
THANK YOU ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT.
POLITIES THE LAZY SMALLER ABOUT
THE CALIFORNIA FACULTY
ASSOCIATION SUPPORT THANK YOU
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER WITNESSES
AND SUPPORT SEEN NINE WITNESSES
IN OPPOSITION. SCENE NINE
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE
COMMITTEE. MUSHROOMS KERR.
SECOND FROM HIS REYES- WITH THAT
SENTIMENT CLOSE THANK YOU SO
MUCH I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN
AYE VOTE THANK YOU. CHEN IS TO
PASS APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE
ESCORT CALL THE ROLL MAIENSCHEIN
AYE MAIENSCHEIN AYE CONNELLY.
CONNELLY I DIXON DIXON I HANEY.
HANEY I KALRA. COLORI JACO
CZECHO I HAPPEN. REYES REYES AYE
SANCHEZ. BEGINNER ARE. YOUR BILL
IS OUT IN THE SEMIS YOU ACCEPT
CENTER PARTY. I AM NUMBER SIX SB
. THREE FIVE SEVEN.
WELCOME THANK YOU AYE MR
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS- SB THREE THREE
FIVE SEVEN WOULD PROVIDE DOCTORS
WITH MORE DISCRETION REPORT
CONDITIONS THEY BELIEVE WOULD
IMPAIR A PATIENT'S INABILITY TO
DRIVE INCLUDING EPILEPSY.
EPILEPSY IS THE FOURTH MOST
COMMON NEUROLOGICAL DISORDER
AFFECTING MORE THAN FOUR HUNDRED
AND TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND
CALIFORNIANS AND THREE POINT
FOUR MILLION AMERICANS IN
NINETEEN FIFTY SEVEN BEFORE THE
CHAIR WAS BORN A STATE LAW
PASSED. THAT MANDATED PHYSICIANS
TO AUTOMATICALLY REPORT THESE
DRIVERS APARTMENT OF MOTOR
VEHICLES AND WE ARE TRYING TO
CORRECT THAT EXTREMELY OUTDATED
APPROACH WE BELIEVE THAT IF
DOCTORS HAVE DISCRETION MORE
PATIENTS WILL GET BETTER CARE BE
SAFER DRIVERS AND LESS PEOPLE
GOING UNTREATED AND SO THAT'S
WHY I'M HERE AND WITH ME I HAVE.
REBEKAH HOLLY WELL FROM THE
EPILEPSY FOUNDATION OF LOS
ANGELES TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT AT
THE APPROPRIATE TIME WOULD ASK
FOR AN IPHONE THANK YOU AND FOR
THE RECORD IT WAS LONG BEFORE
THE CHAIR WAS. FIRST WITNESS. I
COULD AFTERNOON MONEY THE WHOLE
WORLD DIRECTOR THE EPILEPSY
FOUNDATION LOS ANGELES THANK YOU
TO THE CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE
TIME TO CHAT WITH YOU GUYS TODAY
SO EVERY PERSON IN THIS ROOM
LIKE THEY KNOW SOMEONE WHO'S HAD
A SEIZURE- THAT MAY COME AS A
SURPRISE. BECAUSE PEOPLE OFTEN
DON'T LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THEIR
SEIZURES WITH GOOD REASON I
WOULD DATE OF LAWS LIKE THE ONE
WE'RE TRYING TO CHANGE RIGHT NOW
MAKE PEOPLE WITH EPILEPSY AFRAID
TO TALK ABOUT THEIR SEIZURES.
WITH THEIR OWN DOCTORS FOR FEAR
OF LOSING THEIR LICENSE I WOULD
BE LOSING THEIR JOBS THEIR
LIVELIHOODS THEIR INDEPENDENCE
CALIFORNIA IS ONLY ONE OF THE
LAST OF SIX STATES THAT
CONTINUES TO REQUIRE THE
MANDATORY REPORTING OF A LAPSE
OF CONSCIOUSNESS. EMBEDDED HER
BODY DOES NOT MAKE OUR ROADS ANY
SAFER ARE THE FEW STATES THAT
HAVE SIMILAR MARS LOST OURS HAVE
THE SAME CRASH RATES AS THOSE
DATES BUT DO NOT MANDATE
POSITION REPORTING. MANDATORY
REPORTING IS ROOTED IN
DISCRIMINATION AND PERPETUATES
OLD STIGMA IN NINETEEN FIFTY
SEVEN THE CALIFORNIA VEHICLE
CODE PROHIBITIVE LICENSE FOR
BEING A SHOULD ANYONE AND I
QUOTE. WHO IS INSANE- FUEL
MINDED OR ANY IDIOTS. IN THE
CELL. FOR EPILEPTIC. MANY
REPORTING IS NOT RIGHT FOR THE
FOUR HUNDRED SEVEN CAL THOUSAND
INDIVIDUALS IN CALIFORNIA
ESPECIALLY FOR THE NEARLY 70% OF
PEOPLE WITH EPILEPSY WHO MAY
ACHIEVE SEIZURE CONTROL.
MEDICATION BUT DUE TO EXTERNAL
CIRCUMSTANCES SUCH AS THE
MEDICATION STYLE MAY HAVE A
BREAKTHROUGH SEIZURE. MANDATORY
REPORTING DISCOURAGES PATIENTS
FOR BEING OPEN WITH OUR DOCTORS
AND THEY HAVE A CHANGE IN THEIR
SEIZURE FREQUENCY. AND DOCTORS
CAN'T PROPERLY CARE FOR PEOPLE
IN OUR COMMUNITY IF THERE ISN'T
OPEN COMMUNICATION. SB THREE
FIFTY SEVEN DOESN'T DO AWAY WITH
THE EXISTING PROCESS DOCTORS CAN
AND WILL CONTINUE TO REPORT FOR
THE PURPOSES OF PUBLIC SAFETY
WHICH WE SUPPORT. THIS BILL
HOWEVER ALLOWS DOCTORS THE SAME
DISCRETION TO NOT REPORT WHEN
THE SITUATION IS AND WARRANTED.
WE RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR AYE
VOTE THANK YOUNG THANK YOU ANY
OTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
ISABEL ARE QUITE ABOUT THE
HEALTH OFFICERS ASSOCIATION OF
CALIFORNIANS PART. THANK YOU SEE
NO FURTHER WITNESSES AND SUPPORT
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION. SCENE
NINE QUESTIONS ARE COMING
THROUGH A COMMITTEE. THIS
MYSTICS AND- WAIT DO WE HAVE A
MOTION. MOTION FOR MISTER KALRA
. SECOND FROM AS WE CAN- MYSTICS
AND- I THINK YOU CHAIR. OF I
THINK THIS IS A COMMENDABLE BILL
FOR THE REASONS YOU STATED WHICH
IS HELP AT A FIRE EXPLAIN TO ME
. DEPARTMENT OF MOTOR VEHICLES
SAID HAS TETRO AUTHORITY TO
DETERMINE. IF SOMEONE IS SICK.
SAFE TO DRIVE. SO WHY BRING IN
THE MEDICAL COMMUNITY INTO THIS
I JUST WONDER HOW. HOW BROADLY
THIS WILL GO IF YOU. ARE YOU
SAYING YOU'LL LIMIT THIS I DON'T
THINK YOU'RE LIMITING THIS TO
EPILEPSY NECESSARILY ARE YOU OR
IT DOESN'T LIMITED I SHOULD BE
ADDRESSED IN THE SENATOR. DOES
IT LIMITED TO EPILEPSY OR TO ANY
DECISION FROM A DOCTOR. THE
NEUROLOGICAL DISORDERS IT'S
INCOMPETENT ALL OF THEM AND IT'S
GIVING THE DOCTOR'S DISCRETION
OF WHETHER THEY SHOULD REPORT OR
NOT TO PUT IT SO THE DOCTORS
HAVE THE DISCRETION TO REPORT.
AND THEN THE DEPARTMENT OF MOTOR
VEHICLES IS THE ENFORCEMENT
AGENCY BASED ON THAT REPORT FROM
TODAY AT DOES THE DMV HAVEN'T.
DISCRETION AS TO WHETHER TO
ACCEPT THE DOCTOR'S
RECOMMENDATION. I MEAN DON'T
THEY HAVE FURTHER TO. MEANS TEST
TO DECIDE IF SOMEONE IS SAFE TO
PUBLICLY DRIVE OR DRIVE ON
PUBLIC STREETS. THERE ARE
FURTHER CLASSIFICATIONS FOR LACK
OF A BETTER WORD THAT THE DMV
DESPERATE NICE- HOWEVER- OF SHE
WRITES I ALMOST LOST MY TRAIN OF
THOUGHT I'M SORRY- SO THERE IS
THAT DISCUSSION HOWEVER IT'S
JUST UNNECESSARY WE'RE FINDING.
THAT OUR OUR COMMUNITY HAS TO GO
THROUGH THAT PROCESS IS
ESSENTIALLY GETTING SOMETHING IN
THE MAIL IT COULD BE A THIRTY
DAY PROCESS JUST TO GET THAT
DETERMINATION BACK FROM THE DMV.
IS OUR UNDERSTANDING AND SO AT
THAT POINT HOW ARE YOU GETTING
TO WORK I SEE YOU KNOW ALL OF
OKAY ALL RIGHT THANK YOU VERY
MUCH BYE. THANK YOU SEEN A
MISTRESS. ON THE QUESTION OF
LIFE. I KNOW IT'S ADDRESSED SO
THE DOCTOR WOULD NOT BE LIABLE
FOR ALLOWING. THAT PERSON TO
DRIVE. CORRECT THEY WERE GIVING
THE DOCTOR DISCRETION ABOUT
REPORTING SOMETHING TO LET
AGENCIES. THANK YOU. OKAY WE
HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND-
SENATE A CLOSE. UP FOR THE
RECORD NINETEEN FIFTY SEVEN WAS
BEFORE I WAS BORN AS WELL. AND
WITH THAT I RESPECTFULLY ASK.
WELCOME THE TWO OF US YOUTH WILL
PEOPLE BE SUPPORTING THIS BILL
TODAY CENTER- THE MOTION IS TO
PASS THE APPROPRIATIONS
COMMITTEE MANY ASK HER TO PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL MAIENSCHEIN AYE
MAIENSCHEIN AYE CONNELLY.
CONNELLY I DIXON. ANY ANNE HI
KALRA. COLOR I'VE CHECK OUT. THE
CHECK- I'VE HAPPENED. HAPPEN AYE
REYES. REYES AYE SANCHEZ AYE
SENTIFI MCINERNEY. CANARIS YOUR
BILL IS OUT THANK YOU.
YEAH. WE HAVE ONE BRIEF BILL.
SENTIMENT AND YOURS
UNFORTUNATELY IS GONNA TAKE A
LITTLE BIT LONGER SO WE LET HER
VERY QUICKLY. I WAS HOPING THE
ROOM WOULD START TO CLEAR OUT AS
ITEMS WENT BUT IT DIDN'T HAPPEN-
SO IT WE WILL ASK AT MS REYES IS
PRESENTING ON BEHALF OF THE
CENTRE LIMÓN I AND WE WILL TRY
TO GET THROUGH THIS VERY
QUICKLY. MISTRESS YOU MAY BEGIN
. THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR AND THE
MEMBERS I PRESENT ON BEHALF OF
SENATOR MONIQUE LIMON SP NOT
THREE NINETY A BILL THAT WOULD
ENACT PROTECTIONS FOR PURCHASERS
OF COP CARBON OFFSETS CARBON
OFFSETS ARE TRADABLE FINANCIAL
INSTRUMENTS THE CLAIM TO
REPRESENT A REDUCTION OF
GREENHOUSE GASES IN THE
ATMOSPHERE. HOWEVER DUE TO THE
LACK OF REGULATIONS ENFORCEABLE
STANDARDS THE CARBON OFFSETS
MARKETS ARE BROKEN AND WE ARE
SEEING BUSINESSES LOSE
CONFIDENCE IN THIS PRODUCT THIS
BILL WOULD BRING MUCH NEEDED
CLARITY AND ACCOUNTABILITY TO
THE VOLUNTARY OFFSETS SPACE MY
STUBBLE SHE TRUTH IN ADVERTISING
RULES OF OFFSETS. WE WANT TO
ENSURE THE CALIFORNIANS RECEIVE
THE BENEFITS THAT THEY BELIEVE
UNDER PAN THESE INSTRUMENTS WHEN
THEY PURCHASE AN OFFSET THIS
BILL HAS NO REGISTERED
OPPOSITION OF MY ANSWER I VOTE
WITH ME TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT IS
NICOLE RIVERA FROM THE CLIMATE
CENTER. THANK YOU CHRISTMAS HI
GOOD EVENING I. MISTER CHAIR AND
ASSEMBLY MEMBERS I'M HERE DO
BEFORE YOU TODAY AS
REPRESENTATIVE OF THE CLIMATE
CENTER. IT'S A CLIMATE AND
ENERGY POLICY NONPROFIT THINK
TANK DEDICATED TO CONTRIBUTE
COMBATING CLIMATE POLLUTION IN
CALIFORNIA WE BELIEVE IN
FOSTERING THRIVING AND HEALTHY
COMMUNITIES IN ENVISION A FUTURE
WHERE ALL CALIFORNIANS I ENJOY
CLEAN AIR WATER RENEWABLE ENERGY
AND NATURE THAT SECURING. A
SUSTAINABLE AND EQUITABLE STATE
WE'RE HERE TODAY IN SUPPORT OF
SB THREE NINETY WHICH FOCUSES ON
VOLUNTARY OFFSETS MARKETS UNLIKE
COMPLIANCE OFFICE IT'S CONNECTED
TO GOVERNMENT MANDATED
RESTRICTIONS. VOLUNTARY OFFSETS
ALLOW CONSUMERS AND BUSINESSES
TO INDIRECTLY REDUCE THEIR
CARBON FOOTPRINTS UNFORTUNATELY
THE LACK OF REGULATION IN THESE
MARKETS HAS LED TO CONCERNING
ISSUES. NUMEROUS MEDIA REPORTS
AND ACADEMIC STUDIES HAVE EXPOSE
CERTAIN OFFSETS AS QUESTIONABLE
AT BEST AND FRAUDULENT AT WORST.
SOME PROJECTS BEHIND THESE
OFFSETS MAKE FALSE CLAIMS OF
CARBON BENEFITS LIKE PROTECTED
FOREST LANDS THAT ARE LATER
CLEAR CUT. RENEWABLE ENERGY
PROJECTS THAT WOULD HAVE
HAPPENED REGARDLESS OF OFFSETS
AND REFORESTATION PROJECTS WITH
UNREALISTIC GROWTH EXPECTATIONS.
SUCH LOW QUALITY ASSETS INFLICT
MULTIPLE HARMS FIRST PURCHASERS
DO NOT RECEIVE THE PROMISED
CARBON REDUCTIONS RENDERING
THEIR INVESTMENT FEW TILE SECOND
THE CREDIBILITY OF OUR CLIMATE
GOALS. DIMINISHES WHEN
INDIVIDUALS OR BUSINESSES RELY
IN OFFICE WITH UNCERTAIN CARBON
BENEFITS TO ACHIEVE THEIR NET
ZERO OBJECTIVES LASTLY POORLY
DESIGN OFFSET PROJECTS DIVERT
FUNDS FROM MORE PRODUCTIVE
INITIATIVES WITH ACTUAL
POTENTIAL BENEFITS. WITH ACTUAL
POTENTIAL TO DELIVER TANGIBLE
CLIMATE BENEFITS IT'S CRUCIAL
THAT OFFSETS DO NOT MISS LEAD
INDIVIDUALS ARE BUSINESSES ABOUT
THE TO CLIMATE IMPACTS OF THEIR
DECISIONS. SB THREE NINETY IS A
COMMON SENSE MEASURE AIMED AT
PROTECTING CONSUMERS AND
SAFEGUARDING OUR CLIMATE. I
ESTABLISHING REGULATIONS AND
OVERSIGHT FOR VOLUNTARY OFFSETS
THIS BILL ENSURES THE PURCHASERS
CAN TRUST THE OFFICE THEY INVEST
IN WHILE ALSO PREVENTING LOW
QUALITY PROJECTS. DIVERTING
RESOURCES AWAY FROM MORE
IMPACTFUL CLIMATE SOLUTIONS I
NEEDED A WRAP ANY DIRECT
PRESSURE BY SETTING STANDARDS
FOR HIGH QUALITY OFFICE IN
ENSURING TRANSPARENCY AND
ACCOUNTABILITY THIS BILL WERE
PROTECT CLIMATE CALIFORNIA'S
PROGRESS TOWARDS A CRIME IT'S A
FEATURE THANK YOU NEXT WITNESS.
NOW GREAT ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT. SCENE NINE WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION. SCENE SCENE I'M
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM
COMMITTEE SCENERY MOTION. MOVE
THE BILL. THE MOTION FOR MR
CZECHO SECOND FROM MISS MCCANN
ARE- AND WITH THAT- MISS RACE
MIKLOS RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR
THANK YOU. THE MOTION- DISASTER
PREPARATIONS COMMITTEE ASK COURT
TO PLEASE CALL THE ROLL
MAIENSCHEIN I MEAN CHEN I
CALMLY. CONNELLY I'D DIXON.
HANEY PARKS ANY AYE KALRA. THE
CHECK OUT. TO CHECK- I HAPPEN.
REYES RESIDE SANCHEZ. MISSIONER
THE CAMERA. BILL IS. TO
COMMITTEE YOUR A GREAT JOB WE
HAVE GONE THROUGH A LOT OF BILLS
AFTER THAT FIRST VERY LENGTHY
BUT WE'VE GONE THROUGH A LOT OF
BILLS GET ONE MORE TO GO- BUT
IT'S- GOOD WORK SO FAR WITH
EVERYBODY SO THANK YOU FOR THAT
WITH THAT- CINNAMON- ITEM.
NUMBER EIGHT SB. FIVE FORTY NINE
YOU MAY BEGIN. THANK YOU MISTER
I WILL TRY TO MAKE THIS ONE AS
BRIEF AS THE LAST ONE. I MISSED
YOUR MEMBERS THANK YOU FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY PERCENT SB FIVE
FORTY NINE WHICH WOULD PROVIDE
CALIFORNIA INDIAN TRIBES A
LIMITED AVENUE FOR SEEKING IN
STATE COURT A DECLARATION ON THE
LEGALITY OF SPECIFIC GAMES
CURRENTLY OPERATED BY
CALIFORNIA'S LICENSE CARD ROOMS.
UNDER PROPOSITION ONE EIGHTY
APPROVED BY VOTERS IN TWO
THOUSAND ARTICLE FOUR SECTION
NINETEEN OF THE CALIFORNIA
CONSTITUTION GRANTS CALIFORNIANS
INDIAN TRIBES AN EXCLUSIVE RIGHT
TO OPERATE BANK CARD GAMES SUCH
AS BLACKJACK AND BACCARAT IN
WHICH PLAYERS COLLECTIVELY
COMPETE AGAINST A BANKER
COLLOQUIA FOR TWO AS THE HOUSE-
THIS IS OPPOSED TO UNBANKED
GAMES SUCH AS POKER IN WHICH
PLAYERS COMPETE AGAINST ONE
ANOTHER- AND THE ROLE OF DEALER
ROTATES. SUCH THAT NO SINGLE
ENTITY SERVICES THE BANKER
PUTTING UP THE HOUSES MONEY THIS
CRITICAL DISTINCTION WITHIN THE
LAW HAS SERVED AS THE BASIS FOR
A LONG STANDING DISPUTE BETWEEN
CALIFORNIA INDIAN TRIBES AND
CALIFORNIA'S LICENSE COURTROOMS
PRIOR ATTEMPTS TO RESOLVE THIS
DISPUTE THROUGH THE REGULATORY
LET'S SAY PROCEEDS. WERE BY
ELECTORAL INITIATIVES HAVE
FAILED. SB FIVE FORTY NINE SEEKS
TO CLARIFY IN DEFINITIVE YOU
DEFINITIVELY RESOLVE THIS
ONGOING INTRACTABLE DISPUTE. BY
GRANTING CALIFORNIA'S INDIAN
TRIBES LEGAL STANDING IN SEEKING
A DECLARATORY JUDGMENT ON
WHETHER THE DISPUTED CARD GAMES
CURRENTLY BEING OFFERED BY CARD
ROOMS. AND BANK BY A THIRD PARTY
PROPOSITION PLAYER SERVICE
PROVIDER. CONSTITUTE A VIOLATION
OF THE CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION
AS IT RELATES TO THE GRANTING BY
THE STATE TO THE TRIBES OF AN
EXCLUSIVE FRANCHISE FOR THE
OFFERING. OF CERTAIN GAMES THE
CENTRAL QUESTION AT ISSUE IN
THIS BILL IS NOT ABOUT WHAT
GAMES COURTROOMS ARE ALLOWED TO
OFFER RATHER. AS THE COMMITTEE
ANALYSIS POINTS OUT THE CENTRAL
QUESTION OF THIS BILL IS SIMPLY
WHETHER WE SHOULD ALLOW A COURT
OF LAW. THE OPPORTUNITY TO
ANSWER THIS DECADES OLD QUESTION
PURELY ON ITS MERITS TO BE CLEAR
SB. FIVE FORTY NINE DOES NOT
TAKE A SIDE IN THIS DISPUTE IT'S
PASSAGE WOULD WHICH NEITHER
VINDICATE NOR AMPLIFY THE
ARGUMENTS. OF THE TRIBES AND
IT'S PASSAGE WILL NOT DECLARE OR
IMPLY THE COURTROOMS ARE IN
VIOLATION OF THE LAW. MOREOVER
IF AND WHEN THE MATTER COMES
BEFORE A COURT THERE IS NO
GUARANTEE AS TO HOW A COURT MAY
RULE. IT SHOULD PORTANTINO
HOWEVER THAT IF THE LEAD.
REFUSES TO GRANT THE LEGAL
STANDING NEEDED FOR THE COURTS.
TO WEIGH IN WE WILL REMAIN NO
CLOSER TO A RESOLUTION. OF THE
OF THIS LONGING TO SEE LONG
STANDING DISPUTE. WITH ME TODAY
TO TESTIFY JOHN CHRISTMANN
CHAIRMAN OF THE VHS BAND. OF
KUMEYAAY INDIANS AND SHERRY TRAP
CHAIRWOMAN OF THE HOBBIT MORTON
HI BABY MORE TO FOLLOW POMO. OF
UPPER LAKE ALSO WITH US TODAY TO
ANSWER ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS
THE COMMITTEE MAY HAVE A STORY
BIG NIGHT. WHO SERVICES YOUR
TURNOUT J. TOURNEY GENERAL FOR
THIS YEAR HAS BEEN. I AM
RESPECTFULLY ASKING FOR YOUR AYE
VOTE TODAY AND THAT SENATOR ME
TAKE THE AMENDMENTS- WE ARE
TAKING THAT DATA. FIRST WITNESS.
THANK YOU. MAIENSCHEIN JUNE.
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. THANK YOU FOR
ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TODAY IN
SUPPORT OF. US SENATE BILL FIVE
FORTY NINE MY NAME IS JOHN
CHRISTMANN. I SERVICE CHAIRMAN
OF THE ASTRONOMICAL VALUATIONS.
WE GREATLY APPRECIATE CENTER
NEWMAN'S LEADERSHIP AND
AUTHORING THIS CRITICAL
LEGISLATION. SB FIVE FORTY NINE
HELPS PROMOTE CALIFORNIA'S
CONSTITUTIONAL PROMISE TO TRIBAL
GAMING EXCLUSIVELY. OVER BANKED
CARD GAMES. AS AUTHORIZED BY
CALIFORNIA VOTERS IN TWO
THOUSAND. UNDER PROPOSITION ONE
A. BY CREATING A PATHWAY TO
RESOLVE THE LONG A LONG STANDING
DISPUTE BETWEEN TRIBES. AND
CALIFORNIA CARD CLUBS OVER
INTERPRETATION OF CALIFORNIA LAW
. TRIBAL EXCLUSIVE GAMING RIGHTS
HAVE BEEN VITAL. TO OUR TRIBAL
GOVERNMENTS PROVIDING CRITICAL
RESOURCES TO HELP ADDRESS THE TO
THE DETRIMENTAL IMPACTS FROM
HISTORIC BRUTALITY. IN DURING BY
CALIFORNIA NATIVE AMERICANS.
GAMING HAS AFFORDED CALIFORNIA
TRIBES THE MEANS TO DELIVER
ESSENTIAL GOVERNMENT SERVICES TO
OUR PEOPLE SUCH AS HOUSING
EDUCATION PUBLIC WORKS
HEALTHCARE. ENVIRONMENTAL
PROTECTION. FOOD PROGRAMS
CULTURAL PRESERVATION ELDER CARE
EMERGENCY SERVICES LAW
ENFORCEMENT SECURITY AND MORE.
WITHOUT CABEY'S ESSENTIAL
GOVERNMENT SERVICES WOULD NOT
EXIST. NON GAMING TRIBES HAVE
ALSO BENEFITTED FROM MORE THAN
ONE BILLION DOLLARS IN VITAL
REVENUE OVER THE LAST TWENTY
YEARS. THANKS TO THE REVENUE
SHARING HAVE GAMING TRIBES UNDER
THE TOP. WE BELIEVE THE
CALIFORNIA CARD ROOMS FOR
PARKLANDS HAVE BEEN VIOLATING
TRIBAL EXCLUSIVE. GAMING RIGHTS
FOR MORE THAN A DECADE BY
LEGALLY OPERATING BANK GAMES.
WHICH CONTINUES TODAY. ECONOMIC
STUDIES AND DATA REVEALED DURING
THE COVERT PANDEMICS- THE COVERT
PANDEMIC OUTBREAK. THESE ILLEGAL
OPERATED BANK CARD GAMES ARE
TAKING AWAY FROM GAMING TRIBES
OVER A MILLION DOLLARS A HUNDRED
BILLION DOLLARS. EACH YEAR THAT
COULD HAVE BEEN USED FOR CENTRAL
GOVERNMENT SERVICES OF COURSE
CALIFORNIA CARD CLUBS DISPUTE
THAT THEIR GAME ACTIVITIES
VIOLATE CALIFORNIA LAW OR TRIBAL
GAMING EXCLUSIVITY. SB FIVE
FORTY NINE. WE'LL GIVE THEM THE
OPPORTUNITY TO PROVE IT. THE
BEAUTY OF SP FORTY FIVE FORTY
NINE IS THAT IT DOES NOT PICK
ANY WINNERS LOSERS OR
PREDETERMINED ANY OUTCOME. IT'S
SIMPLY AUTHORIZES A LEGAL
PROCEEDING SO THAT THESE
IMPORTANT ISSUES OF CALIFORNIA
LAW CAN BE DECIDED BY CALIFORNIA
COURTS WHICH ARE IN THE BUSINESS
OF INTERPRETING EXISTING
CALIFORNIA LAW RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR YES VOTE TODAY. SO THAT THIS
BEAR REASONABLE IMPARTIAL
MEASURE. CAN ADVANCE TO THE NEXT
STAGE OF THE LEGISLATURE
PERCENTAGE THEIR PROCESS THANK.
NEXT WITNESS. GOOD AFTERNOON MY
NAME IS SHERRY TRIPOD ON THE
CHAIRWOMAN OF THE HAVE THAT
METAL PALM OF UPPER LAKE TRIBE
WE ARE SMALL- TRIED WE ARE
LIMITED GAMING TRIBE THAT MEANS
WE HAVE A SMALL CASINO AND WE
ARE RECIPIENTS OF THE REVENUE
SHARING TRUST FUND. THANK YOU
FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE
COMMENTS SB FIVE FORTY NINE IS A
NARROWLY CRAFTED MEASURE THAT
REMEDIES A GROSS INJUSTICE UPON
CALIFORNIA TRIBES WHICH HAVE
BEEN DENIED ACCESS. TO A COURT
DECISION ON THE MERITS TO DEFEND
THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL EXCLUSIVE
GAMING RIGHTS GRANTED BY THE
CALIFORNIA VOTERS IN TWO
THOUSAND. SB FIVE FORTY NINE
FUNDAMENTALLY PERMITS TRIBES
ACCESS TO THE COURTS TO DEFEND
THEIR EXCLUSIVE GAMING RIGHTS
JUST LIKE THOSE TO HOLD
EXCLUSIVE RIGHTS TO PATENTS
TRADEMARKS COPYRIGHTS AND THE
LIKE. AND ARE PERMITTED TO
ACCESS THE COURTS TO PROTECT THE
RIGHTS. TRIBES ARE EQUALLY
DESERVING OF THE OPPORTUNITY
DEFEND THEIR EXCLUSIVE RIGHTS
WHAT SB FIVE FORTY NINE WILL DO
. YET AUTHORIZES TRIBES FILED A
LIMITED DECLARATORY AND
INJUNCTIVE RELIEF ACTION AGAINST
CALIFORNIA CARD CLUBS AND THIRD
PARTY PROVIDERS OF PROPOSITION
PLAYER SERVICES. T. P. P. P. S.
TO DETERMINE ONCE AND FOR ALL
WHETHER CERTAIN CONTROLLED GAMES
OPERATED BY CALIFORNIA CARD
CLUBS ARE BANKING CARD GAMES AT
VIOLATE. CALIFORNIA LAW AND
INFRINGE UPON TRIBAL EXCLUSIVE
GAMING RIGHTS. SB FIVE FORTY
NINE IS LIMITED IN DURATION ALL
COMPLAINTS MUST BE FILED IN
SACRAMENTO SUPERIOR COURT NO
LATER THAN APRIL FIRST TWENTY
TWENTY FOUR. SB FIVE FORTY NINE
IS LIMITED TO ONE ACTION ALL
COMPLAINTS FILED WILL BE
CONSOLIDATED INTO ONE ACTION TO
ENSURE THERE IS ONLY ONE
JUDICIAL DECISION AT THE
SUPERIOR COURT AND SIMILARLY.
THROUGH AN APPELLATE PROCESS. SB
FIVE FORTY NINE PROMOTES DUE
PROCESS ANY CAR CLUBS T. B. P.
P. S. AND THE STATE CAN
INTERVENE IN THE ACTION AS A
MATTER OF RIGHT TO HAVE THEIR
VOICES HEARD BY THE COURT. WHAT
SB FIVE FORTY NINE WILL NOT DO
SB FIVE FORTY NINE WILL NOT
WAIVE STATE SOVEREIGNTY OR
AUTHORIZED LAWSUIT AGAINST THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA FOR ANYA OR
DEDUCTIBLES AGENCIES THE STATE
WOULD PARTICIPATE ONLY IF IT
CHOOSES TO INTERVENE. SB FIVE
FORTY NINE WILL NOT AUTHORIZED
IN PRIVATE ATTORNEY GENERAL
ACTION TO SEEK AN AWARD OF
MONETARY DAMAGES PENALTIES OR
ATTORNEYS FEES ALL OF WHICH ARE
EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED. UNDER THE
BILL. SB FIVE FORTY NINE WILL
NOT AUTHORIZE UNLIMITED LEGAL
ACTIONS IN THE FUTURE SB FIVE
FORTY NINE WILL NOT REMOVE THE
AUTHORITY OF THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL THE AG THROUGH THE
BUREAU OF GAMBLING CONTROL
ENFORCES THE LAW. BUT ANYONE WHO
HAS DRIVEN ON A FREEWAY IN
WITNESS CARS DRIVING OVER THE
SPEED LIMIT. ALSO KNOWS THAT
ENFORCEMENT. FORCING THE LAW
SOMETIMES DIFFERENT FROM WHAT
THE LAW ACTUALLY REQUIRES SB
FIVE FORTY NINE WILL INTERPRET
THE GAMING LAWS AND THEREBY
PROVIDE THE AG MINUTUS GUIDANCE
ON WHAT THE LAW REQUIRES. SB
FIVE FORTY NINE WILL ALSO NOT
AFFECT CAR CLUBS TP PPS OR
BENEFICIARIES CITIES. IF THE
CONTROLLED GAMES THEY OPERATE
OUR LEGAL. I FORTY NINE DOESN'T
DETERMINE CERTAINLY. IN SUMMARY
FIVE FORTY NINE IS ABOUT JUSTICE
FAIRNESS AND HONORING PROMISES
TO CALIFORNIA TRIBES BY GRANTING
THEM COURT ACCESS TO DEFEND
THEIR EXCLUSIVE GAMING RIGHTS-
WE RESPECTFULLY. ASK YOUR YES
VOTE THANK YOU FURTHER WITNESSES
IN SUPPORT. NAME AN ORGANIZATION
ONLY. THIS. BUT HE COULDN'T HEAR
ME. APOLOGY ON BEHALF OF THE
JUNGLE AND- THE COLUSA TRIBES IN
IN SUPPORT THANK YOU. YOU ARE
NOT TAKING TIME OFF FOR THE
BROWN A BAND OF MISSION INDIANS
IN SUPPORT. MAYBE WE HEAR FOR
TONY INDIAN TRIBE IN SUPPORT.
NICK BROKEN BEHALF THE ARTICLE
IN DEPEND OF CREE INDIANS
SUPPORT. PAMELA LOPEZ HERE ON
BEHALF OF REDDING RANCHERIA
ACTUALLY RIVER TRIED AND THE
SANTA ROSA RANCHERIA TOUCHING
YOUR QUICK TRIED IN SUPPORT.
CAROLINE BEALE HUNTER ON BEHALF
A SHINGLE SPRINGS BAND OF MIWOK
INDIANS IN SUPPORT. SUSAN JENSEN
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE
CALIFORNIA NATIONS INDIAN GAMING
ASSOCIATION WHICH REPRESENTS
FIFTY TRIBES IN SUPPORT. MISTER
CHAIRMAN KEVIN SLOW WPHL TV
WINTUN NATION SUPPORT. DURING
NORMAL HOURS AND WE HAVE THE
RINCON BAND IN THE SANYU INDIANS
IN SUPPORT. MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS
CURT KIMMEL CHU FOR GREAT
RANCHERIA AND SUPPORT THANK YOU
SEEN NO FURTHER WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT I WITNESSES OPPOSITION.
AND I'LL ASK. YEAH THANK. I LET
THE APPLE. I HAVE PROPONENTS GO
LITTLE BIT OVER SO THERE'S NO
NEED FOR YOU TO GO OVER BUT
SHOULD- YOU'LL BE EXTENDED THE
SAME COURTESY. THANK TWO MINUTES
IS SUCH A GREAT LENGTH OF TIME
DISCUSS WE HAVE VERY MUCH
IMPORTANT- THANK YOU MISTER
CHAIRMAN RICHES- MY NAME SAID
MANNING- WITH KP PUBLIC AFFAIRS
I REPRESENT- THE GARDENS CASINO
IN HAWAIIAN GARDENS. AND I'M
HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF THE- THE
CAR CLUB INDUSTRY AS A WHOLE.
WAS A SCREW UP AND THEN THEY CAN
DISTANCE THEMSELVES BUT- WE ARE.
WE'RE HERE IN OPPOSITION- DUE
PROCESS IS ABOUT FUNDAMENTAL
FAIRNESS. AND THIS BILL
ESPECIALLY WITH THE AMENDMENTS
IS FUNDAMENTALLY UNFAIR THE CARD
CLUBS. WHAT YOU DIDN'T HEAR
ABOUT IN THE PREVIOUS TESTIMONY
IS THAT SINCE NINETEEN NINETY
EIGHT. THE LEGISLATURE GAVE THE
ATTORNEY GENERAL. THE AUTHORITY
TO REGULATE CAR CLUBS. THERE ARE
SEVENTY SOME ODD CARD CLUBS IN
CALIFORNIA. EVERY SINGLE GAME WE
PLAY. HAS BEEN INDIVIDUALLY
APPROVED IN A LETTER LIKE THIS.
FROM THE ATTORNEY GENERAL WITH
WITH ATTACHMENTS EXPLAINING WHY
IT'S PROVED AND FOOTNOTES.
THERE'S A WHOLE BUREAU OVER
THERE OF EXPERTS AND LAWYERS WHO
HAVE INCREDIBLE EXPERTISE AND BY
THE WAY THEY ALSO DENY GAMES.
THAT WE GOTTA GET LICENSE
BECAUSE THEY DON'T AGREE WITH US
THAT THEIR LEGAL- THERE HAVE
BEEN SIX ATTORNEY GENERAL SINCE
NINETEEN NINETY EIGHT LONGER IN
. LOCKYER BROWN. FORMER GOVERNOR
FOR TERMS THE CURRENT VICE
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
ARE HAPPIER BASURA WAS TURNING
GENERAL AND MR BONTA. SOMEHOW
ALL OF THEM GOT TO BUY THE CARD
CLUBS THE LICENSE OUR GAMES
SINCE NINETEEN NINETY EIGHT.
THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT YOU'RE
BEING ASKED IN THIS BILL THAT
THEY'RE ALL WRONG AND THE TRIBES
ARE CORRECT. THE TRIBES WENT TO
THE VOTERS AND PROP TWENTY SIX
WHICH SHARE WITH YOU THE CLIP
FROM EDITORIALS AROUND THE STATE
SAYING. THIS VERY PROVISION UP
POPPED A PROVISION THAT ALLOWS
THE TRIBES TO CAR CLUBS. WAS A
REASON TO VOTE NO. AND IN THE
RINCON DECISION THE COURT. THREW
OUT THEIR LAWSUIT BECAUSE OF THE
EQUITIES AND THE COURTS SAID
VERY CLEARLY YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE
A ONE WAY. LAWSUIT WORK THE
TRIBES CANNOT BE SUED IN COURT
IN CALIFORNIA. BUT THEY WANT TO
BE ABLE TO GO TO CALIFORNIA
COURTS TO SUE OTHERS AS YOU SIT
HERE TODAY OF THE TRIBE OF THAT.
VIOLATED EVERY LABEL ON THE
STATE NO ONE COULD BRING A POP A
LAWSUIT IN STATE COURT AGAINST.
THE OTHER THING ABOUT THIS IS
THE BILL NOW AS AMENDED IS AT
THE NOVO STANDARD REVIEW THAT
MEANS NONE OF THE APPROVALS NONE
OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE RECORDS.
FROM EVERY GAME APPROVAL IT
WOULD BE BEFORE THE COURT AND
THE COURT WOULD GIVE NO
DEFERENCE TO THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL NONE. AND THERE WOULD BE
NO RECORD BEFORE THE COURT.
BECAUSE THE ATTORNEY GENERAL
WILL NOT BE A PARTY TO THE
PROCEEDINGS. AND IT'S A DE NOVO
STANDARD OF REVIEW WHICH IS
UNHEARD OF. SO THE OTHER ISSUE
IS OF COURSE SHOULD BE
LITIGATING EVERY SINGLE GAME IN
FRONT OF THE COURT. I COULD GO
ON AND ON AT THE END OF MY TIME
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR- THERE'S
LOTS OF REASONS TO VOTE NOTED
AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS. THANK YOU NEXT
WITNESS. THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR
AND MEMBERS OF THIS COMMITTEE-
MY NAME'S HUGO ARE METAL ON THE
MAYOR OF THE CITY OF COMMERCE
AND CHAIR OF IN CALIFORNIA
CITIES FOR SELF RELIANCE AND
POWERS OF FORTY. THE JOINT
POWERS AUTHORITIES ADVOCATED FOR
A COMMUNITIES FOR DECADES AND
INCLUDES THE CITIES OF BELL
GARDENS COMMERCE COMPTON CUT A
IN HAWAIIAN GARDENS. CALIFORNIA
CITIES FOR SELF RELIANCE OPPOSES
AS BE FIVE FORTY NINE TO WHICH
KIDS SOVEREIGN. TRIBAL
GOVERNMENTS A PRIVATE RIGHT OF
ACTION- TO BRING LITIGATION
CHALLENGING LICENSE GAMES
OFFERED IN CALIFORNIA IS ALREADY
COVERED. BY OUR LOBBYIST YEARS
SO I'M NOT GOING TO BE REDUNDANT
BUT- LET ME JUST SUMMARIZE- YOU
KNOW I MEAN. THERE'S A LOT MORE
HERE AND I BELIEVE PART OF IT
WILL BE REDUNDANT- BUT I DO WANT
TO SHARE WITH YOU THE
EXPERIENCES OF OUR COMMUNITIES
THAT. ARE VERY MUCH DEPENDENT ON
THE REVENUES THAT ARE BEING
GENERATED BY THESE CAR CLUBS IN
OUR COMMUNITIES. AND I BELIEVE
THAT WE JUST ALL ARE RECOVERING
FROM THE PANDEMIC IN OUR IN IN
OUR COUNTRY IN THE WORLD. AND WE
THOUGHT WE WERE JUST GETTING
OVER THIS AND- THE GREAT NEWS IS
WE ALSO THOUGHT WE HAD A
MORATORIUM IN PLACE. THAT JUST
WAS APPROVED AND SIGNED BY THE
GOVERNOR. AND HERE WE ARE WE
ONLY HAD NOT EVEN TWO WEEKS OF-
CELEBRATION WHICH I THOUGHT WAS
A GREAT STEP IN MOVING FORWARD
IN WORKING TOGETHER- INTO THE
FUTURE HERE BUT NOW. WE'RE
LOOKING AT THIS PARTICULAR BILL
WITH THAT WHICH I THINK WILL BE
VERY DETRIMENTAL TO ALL OF OUR
COMMUNITIES- THAT ARE THAT WE
REPRESENT. AND OTHER COMMUNITIES
THAT ALSO BENEFIT FROM THE CAR
CLUBS IN OUR COMMUNITIES. SO I'M
RESPECTFULLY ASKING FOR A NO
VOTE ON THIS. ITEM THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. FOR THE
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION. I
LEVERAGING WITH THE AMERICAN
FEDERATION OF STATE COUNTY
MUNICIPAL EMPLOYEES IN
OPPOSITION. ZURCHER MEMBERS
TRANSMIT ON BEHALF OF ARTICHOKE
JOE'S CASINO AND SAMBRO
OPPOSITION. MARIN COUNTY HAVE
THE CITY OF COMMERCE IN
OPPOSITION. MYSTERON BEHALF OF
THE CITY OF SAN JOSE IN
OPPOSITION THANK YOU. MISTER
CHAIRMAN FRUSTRATION FRIDAY HALF
OF PLAYERS THAT SERVICES WERE
OPPOSED THANK YOU. RESEARCHER
MEMBERS MIGHT BE ALLOWED ON
BEHALF OF CLUB BECAUSE CLUB ONE
CASINO IN FRESNO AND THE DEUCE
LATCHING CASINO IN BY SALIA POST
. GARY CONDIT REPRESENTING
CASINO MERCED AND CONSUME MADERA
WERE IN OPPOSITION. MEGHAN LOWER
ON BEHALF OF COMMERCE CASINO IN
OPPOSITION. WELCOME HAVE OCEANS
ELEVEN KRISTA WHO. IN OPPOSITION
. THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR
PLANNING ON BEHALF OF LUCKY
CHANCES ELEVATION ENTERTAINMENT
FIVE HUNDRED CLUB CASINO IN
PLAYERS CLUB IN OPPOSITION THANK
. MR CHARMERS BRIAN LONDON
APARTMENT VISORS ON BEHALF OF
THE COMMUNITY'S CAL CARD ROOMS
REPRESENTING MOST OF THE SMALL
TO MEDIUM CLUBS IN THE- STATE ON
THE THIRD PARTY POSITION PLAYERS
AND- SEVEN ORGANIZATIONS
OPPOSITION THANK. HI FOR ME THIS
IS THE WHITE HOUSE PUBLIC
AFFAIRS ON BEHALF OF PARK WEST
CASINO SINCE IN OPPOSITION. KURT
BLACKBURN ABOUT THE CITY OF
INGLEWOOD IN OPPOSITION I'VE
ALSO BEEN ASKED TO PROVIDE
OPPOSITION TESTIMONY ON BEHALF
OF THE- CALIFORNIA CITIES GAMING
AUTHORITY A JPA COMPRISED OF US
CITIES THROUGHOUT THE STATE
INCLUDING ENGLAND THANK YOU
THANK YOU. SEEN A FURTHER
WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION TURN IT
BACK TO COMMITTEE IN QUESTIONS
OR COMMENTS FROM THE COMMITTEE.
MISS MCKENNA. YES I AM I AM. I
HAVE INGLEWOOD HOLLYWOOD PARK
CASINO IN MY DISTRICT AND AT ONE
POINT THIS WAS ALL WE HAD. IN
INGLEWOOD WHICH WE'VE GROWN SO
MUCH MORE SINCE THEN BUT THAT'S
ALL WE HAD I HAVE A COUPLE OF
QUESTIONS- I JUST WANNA MAKE
SURE DID I HEAR THAT THIS WAS A-
COMPONENT OF. PROP TWENTY SIX
THAT WAS ON THE BALLOT NO ONE
KNOWS WE'VE GOT. A QUICKLY. AB
THIS WAS STRUCK WITH A PRICE
TWENTY SIX IS THIS THE FUTURE
PROP ONE EIGHT FROM TWO THOUSAND
THE EXISTING. FORTY SHARE AD THE
WOULD ALLOW IT TO WITH THAT. GO
AHEAD. IT WAS AN ELEMENT OF PROP
TWENTY SIX THERE WAS A SPECIFIC
PAGA PROVISION PROP TWENTY SIX
IT WILL OUT OF TRIBES. TO SUE
CARD ROOMS OVER THIS EXACT
ISSUE. AND THE VOTERS REJECTED
THAT I'M SORRY WHAT WHAT I WHAT
I MEANT WAS THE EXISTING COMPACT
THAT GIVES THE INDIAN TRIBES
EXCLUSIVE FRANCHISE TO CASINO
GAMING. IF THERE WAS. A QUESTION
THAT'S FROM PROP ONE AND TWO
THOUSAND- SET. HAS THIS BEEN
LITIGATED AT ALL AND IF SO HOW
MANY TIMES. THERE HAVE BEEN TWO
LAWSUITS. ONE WAS A FEDERAL
LAWSUIT THAT WAS A COMPACT CLAIM
AGAINST THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA
. THE TRIBES WERE. FOUND TO HAVE
EXCLUSIVE GAMING RIGHTS BUT NO
ABILITY TO FORCE THE STATE TO
EXERCISE ITS POLICE POWER. THE
SECOND LAWSUIT WAS A LAWSUIT
THAT WAS BROUGHT VINCE EGG ABOUT
BY A COUPLE OTHER TRIBES IN
STATE COURT. AND IT WAS A
SEVENTEEN TWO HUNDRED UNFAIR
BUSINESS PRACTICES CLAIM SO THE
REASON EFFORT TO FORCE THAT
ILLEGAL GAMING INTO AND ON FOR
ABOUT. BUSINESS PRACTICES CLAIM.
IN THE CARD ROOMS VEHEMENTLY
OPPOSED ON PROCEDURAL GROUNDS.
AND THE COURT ULTIMATELY
DETERMINED THAT TRIBES LACKS
STANDING SO ALTERNATELY WHAT WE
HAVE IS PROCEDURAL HURDLES. THAT
HAVE PREVENTED TRIBES FROM BEING
ABLE TO HAVE THIS ISSUE HEARD
AND FROM THE COURTS. AND REALLY
IF THE CARD ROOMS ARE SO
CONFIDENT IN THEIR POSITION.
THEY SHOULD BE EAGER TO GO TO
COURT AND PROVE IT. THANK YOU.
MISTER HANEY. THANK YOU THANK
YOU MISTER CHAIR THANK YOU TO
MAKE IT TO THE COMMITTEE STAFF
ALSO FOR FURTHER ANALYSIS WHICH
HELPED ME. UNDERSTAND WHAT I
KNOW IS A VERY COMPLEX AND
PROTRACTED- ISSUE THAT HAS BEEN
AROUND FOR SOME TIME AND I THINK
THAT NOW IS THAT A GOOD JOB OF
LAYING OUT- THE HISTORY AND WHAT
THIS BILL WOULD DO SPECIFICALLY
I CERTAINLY. AGREE VERY STRONGLY
AND AS WE ALL DO. I'D BE
IMPORTANCE OF TRIBAL EXCLUSIVE
GAMING RIGHTS I THINK IT'S-
REALLY A CRITICAL AND ESSENTIAL-
OUR RELATIONSHIP THAT. THE STATE
HAS A WITH TRIBES THAT NEEDS TO
BE PROTECTED AND I HAS
INCREDIBLE BENEFITS- TO TRIBAL
COMMUNITIES BOTH THOSE WHO
ENGAGE IN GAMING AND THOSE WHO
DON'T AND SO- I WHEN I WHEN THIS
WAS BROUGHT FORWARD I CERTAINLY.
AGREE THAT HAVING A WAY FOR SOME
OF THESE LONG STANDING
QUESTIONS. TO BE. BOTH ANALYZED
AND SOME. MORE I WOULD SAY
CLEARER LEGAL GUIDANCE FROM THE
COURT COULD ACTUALLY HELP IN A
LOT OF WAYS PARTICULARLY BECAUSE
THERE IS IT SEEMS SOME GRAY
AREA. AND THIS COULD PROVIDED BY
BRING EVERYONE TO THE TABLE IN A
COURT. THAT JUDGEMENT HE NAY-
WHAT AT WHAT I WILL SAY I WANT
WANTED TO ASK IS. NO ONE OF THE
THINGS THAT- FOLKS HAVE SAID
WERE OPPOSED TO THIS IS THAT THE
ATTORNEY GENERAL HAS BEEN GIVEN
THIS ROLE. AND THAT. HAVING THE
ATTORNEY GENERAL PROVIDE THAT
GUIDANCE AND REGULATION AND
ANALYSIS IS THE MORE APPROPRIATE
PLACE TO DO IT THAN A COURT. I
WONDER CENTER OR IF YOU COULD IF
YOU COULD ADDRESS THAT OR OR YOU
WITNESSES WHY. IS THIS THE RIGHT
WAY TO HAVE SOME- CLEARER LEGAL
GUIDANCE FROM A COURT RATHER
THAN CONTINUE TO HAVE THE
ATTORNEY GENERAL PLAY THAT ROLE
EVERY SHOW LOVE DEFERRED TO
MISTER BIG NIGHT- BUT I DO WANT
TO NOTE THAT THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL IS NOT ON RECORD. AS
OPPOSED TO THIS BILL COULD
PROCEED THANK YOU. GREAT
QUESTION. SO ATTORNEYS GENERALS
HAVE BEEN TRYING TO WORK AND
REGULATORY FRAMEWORK IN THE PAST
. THIS IS A CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUE
SO AS WE KNOW THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL DOESN'T AMEND THE
CONSTITUTION ISN'T IN THE
BUSINESS OF INTERPRETING THE
CONSTITUTION OR DECIDING WHAT IT
MEANS. THAT'S A JOB FOR THE
COURTS. AND WE FOUND THAT OUT
WHEN THE TRIBES PASSED PROP FIVE
. EVERYBODY REMEMBERS PROP FIVE
IT WAS A STATUTORY AUTHORIZATION
OF GAMING FOR TRIBES BANK CARD
GAMES SLOT MACHINES. AND THAT
WAS ULTIMATELY STRUCK DOWN BY A
LAWSUIT FILED BY EACH YARI WHO
HAS ZERO INTEREST IN GAMING
OTHER THAN REPRESENTING SOME
WORKERS. AND THEY STRUCK THAT
DOWN BECAUSE IT WAS
UNCONSTITUTIONAL. THAT'S WHAT
FORCE THE TRIED TO GO BACK TO
THE VOTERS. AND TO SPEND MONEY
ON PROP ONE NAY WHICH ULTIMATELY
MODIFIED THE CONSTITUTION AND
CREATED THE EXCLUSIVE RIGHT THAT
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY. SOON
ATTORNEY GENERAL VIEWPOINT OR
OPINION ON IT IS PRETTY
IRRELEVANT WHAT REALLY MATTERS
IS WHAT THE COURT THANKS AND
WHETHER OR NOT THESE GAMES ARE
LEGAL AND ONE OTHER POINT THAT I
THINK IS VERY IMPORTANT. IS
THROUGH THE REGULATORY PROCESS
WELL IT WAS REALLY PRETTY
REGULATORY PROCESS IT WAS KIND
OF FACT FINDING MISSIONS BY THE
BUREAU OF GAMBLING CONTROL. ONE
OF THE PROPOSED REGULATIONS THAT
THEY PUT OUT AS A CONCEPT
DROPPED WITH SOME BLACKJACK
REGULATIONS. AND THE CARD ROOMS
AND I HAVE A LETTER RIGHT HERE
DATED FEBRUARY FIVE TWENTY
TWENTY ONE. THEY ACTUALLY SPOKE
OUT OF THE OTHER SIDE OF THEIR
MOUTH AND SAID THAT THE AG HAD
NO JURISDICTION. THE LAW A
LETTER ISSUED BY MUNGER TOLLES
AND OLSON ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA GAMBLING ASSOCIATION.
AND IT SAID THE BUREAU LACKS
AUTHORITY TO PROHIBIT THE PLAY
OF A CATEGORY OF GAME BY MAKING
A RULE. ADDITIONALLY BECAUSE
THEY SAID IT'S LIMITED BY THE
BUSINESS AND PROFESSIONS CODE IN
THAT ACTUALLY THIS ISSUE ASK TO
GO TO THE- CALIFORNIA GAMBLING
CONTROL COMMISSION. THIS IS
EXACTLY THE TYPE OF GAME OF
WHACK A MOLE THE TRIBE HAS BEEN
CONFRONTED WITH FOR OVER A
DECADE. SB FIVE FORTY NINE
BRINGS THAT TO AN END. GETS THIS
QUESTION ANSWERED AND AGAIN OF
CARTOONS ARE SO CONFIDENT THEIR
GAMES ARE LEGAL LET HIM PROVE IT
IN COURT. I MISS RACES NEXT THEN
MISTER CONNELLY. THANK YOU
MISTER CHAIR. NOW AS I
UNDERSTAND THE ATTORNEY GENERAL
HAS TO SIGN OFF. ON EVERY GAME
THAT IS PROPOSED. EVERY GAME.
THAT THEY ARE SAYING IS A LEGAL
. RIGHT NOW. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF
THEM HAS BEEN EXPLICITLY
APPROVED INDIVIDUALLY. IN EVERY
CARD ROOM IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA. THE MIKE MY
COLLEAGUES ASKED SPECIFICALLY
ABOUT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL THE
FACT THAT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL
HAS THIS AUTHORITY. BUT I'M ALSO
AT A LOSS WHEN WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT EXCLUSIVE GAMING RIGHTS
BUT NO ABILITY TO ENFORCE
AGAINST ILLEGAL GAMING. THAT'S
FUNDAMENTALLY WRONG IF I COULD
EXPLAIN IN RESPONSE. FIRST OF
ALL ONE OF THE SECTIONS THAT'S
BEING INTERPRETED HERE AS A
PENAL CODE SECTION. AND THE
PENAL CODE BANDS PLAYING OF
TWENTY ONE. THANK GAME SIX
CETERA. THEIR EXCLUSIVITY ISSUE
IS REALLY NOT THE ISSUE HERE.
THE ISSUE IS THAT THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL INTERPRETS THE
CONSTITUTION THEY READ THE
CONSTITUTION THEY READ THE PENAL
CODE. THEY'VE HEARD ALL OF THESE
ARGUMENTS. AND THEY MAKE A
DETERMINATION OF WHAT GAMES WE
PLAY ARE LEGAL. IN AN INFINITE
DETAIL. IN TERMS OF HOW THEY'RE
PLAYED HOW THEIR BANKED IT
CETERA. SO IN ESSENCE WE'RE
DRIVING SIXTY FIVE TO BORROW AN
ANALOGY. WE'RE DRIVING WITHIN
THE SPEED LIMIT BUT THEY WANT TO
SUE US. DESPITE THAT IN OTHER
WORDS THEY'RE SUING US EVEN
THOUGH WE'RE COMPLYING THEY'RE
NOT SAYING WE'RE NOT COMPLYING
WITH THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S
DECISION. THEY'RE SAYING WE ARE
COMPLYING WITH THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL'S DECISION AND THEY
DON'T LIKE IT. AND THEY WANT TO
SUE US. AND NOT GIVE THE ABILITY
OF US TO SUE THEM. IF I MAY YOUR
RESPONSE PLEASE. SO COMPLETELY
DISAGREE WITH THAT STATEMENT. IT
IS TRUE THAT THE BUREAU OF
GAMBLING CONTROL HAS APPROVED
SOME GAME RULES. THE KEY ISSUE
RELATES TO ROTATION OF THE
PLAYER DEALER POSITION. IF YOU
GO INTO ANY COURTROOM TODAY AND
I INVITE EVERYONE TO DO SO. YOU
WILL SEE THAT THERE IS A SINGLE
BANKER A THIRD PARTY PROP PLAYER
PROVIDER THAT WILL BANKED THE
GAME CONTINUOUSLY. THE ONLY
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A GAME OF
BLACKJACK OR BACCARAT. AT A CARD
ROOM RIGHT NOW IN A TRIED. IS
THAT THE DEALER ADDED TRIBE IS
ALSO THE BANK. IN A CARD ROOM
THERE'S JUST ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL
SITTING HERE LIKE THE CHAIRMAN
WHERE HE WOULD HAVE THE CHIPS
AND HE WOULD BE THE BANK AND I
WOULD BE THE PERSON THAT HANDS
OUT THE CARDS. THERE WAS A TWO
THOUSAND SEVEN MEMO THAT HAD
BEEN ISSUED BY A- I INDIVIDUAL
NAMED BOB VITAL. WHO IS THE HEAD
OF THE BUREAU OF GAMBLING
CONTROL AT THE TIME. IN THAT
LETTER SUGGESTED THAT MERELY
OFFERING. TO ROTATE THE BANK WAS
ENOUGH. THERE WERE SOME GAME
RULES THAT WERE REVISED AT THAT
TIME. AND REMEMBER HE ISSUED
THAT LETTER A COUPLE DAYS BEFORE
YOU LEFT TO GO TO THE CARTER
MINISTRY. IN THOSE SUGGESTED
THAT THE IT COULD BE OFFERED THE
BANK ONLY BE HAD TO BE OFFERED
WITH THE PENAL CODE. AND THE
CONSTITUTION SUGGEST OTHERWISE
IF IT LOOKS LIKE A BANK GAME IT
WALKS LIKE A BANK GAME IT IS A
BANK CAN. SO WE WOULD SUGGEST TO
SOME OF THESE RULES DO NOT
COMPLY WITH THE LAW WE WOULD
ALSO SUGGEST THAT. THE RULES
THAT DO COMPLY WITH THE LAW THEY
HAVE A TWO HAND ROTATION THE
CARD ROOMS ARE NOT COMPLYING
WITH IT AND THEY'RE THERE FOR
VIOLATING TRIBAL EXCLUSIVITY AND
TAKING MONEY AWAY FROM OUR
GOVERNMENTS. IF I MAY. THE
ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OPINION ON
EACH OF THESE- GAMES. IS THAT
GOING TO BE USED AS EVIDENCE IN
THESE LAWSUITS. NOT BY TRIBES IT
COURTS REMOTE BUSINESS CAN THEY
BE USED TO BE THE AT THE
QUESTION CAN THEY BE USED AS
EVIDENCE. TO SHOW WHY WAS IT A
CARD GAME HAS WAS USING THEIR
PLAYING THAT GAME OR WHATEVER
THE RIGHT LINGO IS TYPICALLY
COURTS REVIEW QUESTIONS OF LAW
AND APPLYING THE FACTS TO IT.
DINOVO OR YOU KNOW IN
INDEPENDENT REVIEW RIGHT JUDGES
DON'T CARE WHAT AGENCIES THANK
UNLESS YOU'RE CHALLENGING AGENCY
ACTION WERE WHICH WERE NOT
DOING. WERE CHALLENGING THAT
THESE GAMES ARE ILLEGAL UNDER
CALIFORNIA LAW AND A COURT CAN
ANALYZE THAT QUESTION THERE'S
ACTUALLY PRECEDENT. THERE WAS A
PROPOSED CASE- ON IT ON ISSUE
GAME CALLED NEW JACK IN THE ALL
OVER DECISION IT ACTUALLY FORM
THE BASIS FOR THE TO HAND
ROTATION STANDARD THAT THE CARD
ROOMS HAD ADOPTED. BEFORE THAT
LYDALL LETTER CAME OUT AND SAID
YOU ONLY HAD OFFERED TO ROTATE
THE BANK THAT STANDARD WAS IN
ALMOST ALL OF THE RULES. IN THAT
CASE WAS THE JUDGE DECIDING
WHETHER OR NOT A GAME. THAT WAS
PROPOSED TO BE USED. WAS A BANG
CARD GAME THAT VIOLATED THE LAW
AND THE COURT FOUND THAT IT WAS.
IS THERE IS REYES COULD I TRY TO
ANSWER THAT FOR YOU I WANT TO
ASK ONE FOLLOW UP. IS THERE A
QUESTION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT
THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S DECISIONS
WERE CORRECT OR INCORRECT.
THAT'S THE FUNDAMENTAL SKILLS.
HELLO I'M SORRY I'M DIRECTING MY
QUESTION. WE BELIEVE THE GAMES
AS THEY'RE BEING OPERATED TODAY
ARE YOU LEGAL BANK CARD GAMES
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE
CHALLENGING SO IT IS NOT SO MUCH
THE DECISION OF THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL BUT IT IS THE MANNER IN
WHICH- THAT DECISION IS BEING
INTERPRETED BY THE CARD ROOM. IT
IT'S THE FACT THAT THEY ARE
PLAYING GAMES THAT ARE BANKED
CARD GAMES AND THEY'RE NOT
ALLOWED TO OPERATE UNDER THE
LAW. JUST THE SAME WAY THAT IF
WE TO USE THAT ANALOGY IF WE
WERE ON THE FREEWAY AND SOMEBODY
WAS GOING SEVENTY FIVE. WE
WOULDN'T SAY THAT THEY WERE
WITHIN THE LAW SIMPLY BECAUSE
NOBODY WAS ENFORCING IT AGAINST.
MISSOURI'S THAT WAS NOT IT. OKAY
THESE. FINANCER WHAT IT SHOULD
BE THAT LET THE CAMPING
COMMITTEE MEMBERS HAVE TO ASK
I'M A QUICK. AS YOU LIKE. THANK
YOU MISTER. I APOLOGIZE- WHAT HE
DIDN'T GIVE YOU A STRAIGHT
ANSWER. AND THE STRAIGHT ANSWER
IS WHAT THEY'RE CHALLENGING IS
THAT WE'RE PLAYING THE GAMES THE
WAY THE ATTORNEY GENERAL
APPROVED. THE MEASURE JUST BE
STRAIGHT ABOUT THAT. THEY DON'T
AGREE WITH THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL'S DECISION. THEY'RE NOT
SAYING TO YOU THAT WERE PLAYING
THE GAMES DIFFERENTLY THAN THE
GAMES WERE APPROVED. THEY'RE
SAYING WE'RE PLAYING THE GAMES
THE WAY WE WERE APPROVED BY THE
ATTORNEY GENERAL AND IF YOU ASK
THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE
THEY'LL TELL YOU THAT. THEY
DON'T LIKE THE FACT THAT THE
ATTORNEY GENERAL APPROVED THE
GAMES THAT WERE PLAYING THE WAY
WE'RE PLAYING THEM. AND I. YOU
KNOW WEEK HE GOT INTO A LOT OF
THE GEO ISSUES ON THIRD PARTY
BANKING AND HOW WE'RE BANKS I
WON'T GET INTO THAT. THIS IS THE
JUDICIARY COMMITTEE BUT SAFE TO
SAY. WE DON'T AGREE WITH THAT. I
THINK IT'S AS I UNDERSTAND IT'S
ONE LAWSUIT DURING THE NINETY
DAY PERIOD. AND THIS IS TO
INCLUDE ALL THE CARDS CARD GAMES
ALL THE- FACILITIES. AND AS A
RESULT OF THAT THERE WILL BE A
DECISION. THEY MAY BE APPELLATE
COURT- IT. MAY BE KILLED AFTER
THAT. AFTER THAT'S CORRECT.
THANK YOU THANK YOU MISTER
CONNELLY. THANK YOU CHAIR REALLY
APPRECIATE. THE APPS DISCUSSION
TODAY THE- ANALYSIS BY COMMITTEE
STAFF I THOUGHT WAS. VERY
EXTRAORDINARY ACTUALLY. AND THEN
ALSO THE OUT REACH- THAT WE
RECEIVED ON THIS LONG STANDING
ISSUE I THINK WHAT I'M GONNA TRY
TO DO AS WE- A COUPLE OF MY
COLLEAGUES- POINTS I THINK A LOT
OF US SHARE SOME OF THE SAME.
QUESTIONS AND PERSPECTIVES- TO
ME THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT
TRIBAL EXCLUSIVITY AROUND A GAME
IN AS- TO. BY OUR STATE'S
CONSTITUTION PROTECTING AROUND
BANKED. CARD GAMES ON THE NOW
TROLL- AND I KNOW THIS IS
PROBABLY OUT OF THE PURVIEW OF
THIS COMMITTEE PER SE BUT- I CAN
SEE THE ISSUE I MEAN BASICALLY-
YOU HAVE A SITUATION HERE AND
SOMEONE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG
. ABOUT A THIRD PARTY PLAYERS
SERVICE PROVIDERS TO- IS UNDER
CONTRACT WITH THE CARD ROOM PAID
BY THE CARD ROOM. IN EFFECT AS
AN AGENT OF THE CARD ROOM- TO ME
THAT RAISES. A KEY IS SURE ABOUT
IS THAT THE HOUSE ESSENTIAL- THE
OTHER ISSUE THAT WE'RE ALL
FOCUSED ON IT IS THE ROLE OF THE
ATTORNEY GENERAL- IT SOUNDS
LIKE- ONE SIDE IS CLAIMING IT'S
ALREADY BANNED DEFINE OR OR
DECIDED BY THE ATTORNEY GENERAL
I'M NOT SEEN THAT- TICKET AROUND
THE SPECIFIC USE YEAR ROUND
THOSE THIRD PARTY PLAYER SERVICE
. OUR PROVIDERS CERTAINLY IN THE
RECENT PAST IT SOUNDS LIKE THE
AGES HAVE AVOIDED THIS ISSUE FOR
WHATEVER REASON- AND I THINK IF
YOU LOOK AT- LEGAL PARAMETERS
AROUND WHAT THE AG CARE CAN'T DO
THERE IS A QUESTION- CERTAINLY
BG TAN- ENFORCE. ARE THE LAW OR
REGULATIONS IN THIS SPACE ARBIT
THE AG CANNOT DEFINE GAMES- ONE
OF MY QUESTIONS WAS AS MY
COLLEAGUES POSITED- WITH THIS BE
BETTER PUT BEFORE THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL IN THE FIRST INSTANCE
RATHER THAN THE COURT. ARM I
THINK ANOTHER ISSUE IS
ALTERNATELY EVEN IF THE AG WORK
TO FURTHER OPINE ON THIS IT
WOULD END UP IN COURT ANYWAY-
THIS IS GOING TO COURT EITHER
WAY. SO I FRANK HEART OF THE
ISSUE HERE IS STREAMLINING THAT
PROCESS IN A ROBUST WAY. ARM TO
ULTIMATELY GET THIS- IS SHE
FULLY AND FINALLY RESOLVE SO.
THAT'S KINDA IT IF EITHER SIDE
OR BOTH WANTED TO FURTHER
APPLYING BUT- TO ME IT'S
SIGNIFICANT THAT THIS ISSUE
WOULD ULTIMATELY END UP IN COURT
AND HAVE TO BE DECIDED BY A
JUDGE IN THE LEGAL. ROSS SAYS-
IN ANY EVENT. SO WITH THAT I'M
I'M INCLINED TO SUPPORT THIS
BILL- RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I TANK-
IT IS A NECESSARY STEP IN THE
RIGHT DIRECTION- TOWARD
RESOLVING THIS ISSUE BUT I.
CERTAINLY RECOGNIZE- AND I THINK
MY COLLEGE STATED EVEN BETTER
THERE ARE SOME. QUESTIONS AND
ISSUES HERE. YOU'RE FREE TO
RESPOND I WANT TO. I BELIEVE YOU
PUT IT WILL. GOING THROUGH ANY
PROCESS IS AG. ONCE IT'S
COMPLETED AND WE UNDERSTAND THE
REGULATORY PROCESS COULD TAKE
YEARS ESPECIALLY ONCE THEY GET
THEY HAVE TO DO THE MONETARY
IMPACT. THIS IS REALLY A QUICKER
WAY TO THE FINISH LINE IT'S ALSO
CLEANER WAY TO THE FINISH LINE
BECAUSE IT WON'T BE A LAWSUIT
ABOUT REGULATIONS IT'S JUST A
LAWSUIT THAT SPECIFICALLY GETS
TO THE QUESTION. OF WHETHER OR
NOT CARD ROOMS OPERATING THESE
GAMES WITHIN. THE PARAMETERS OF
THE LAW AND WHETHER THEY'RE
VIOLATING TRIBAL CONSTITUTIONAL
EXCLUSIVITY. THANK YOU CONNELLY
THROUGH THE CHAIR DO YOU HAVE A
QUESTION FOR IT AS WELL YES GO
AHEAD GO AHEAD THANK YOU YEAH-
I. THINK WE WOULD DISAGREE AND
WE DISCUSS THANKS FOR YOUR TIME
THE OTHER DAY- WE WOULDN'T
DISAGREE STRONGLY ON THAT
CHARACTERIZATION OF THE ROLE OF
THE THIRD PARTY BANKER. THE
OWNER OF THE CAR CLUB IS THE
CARCLUB. WE HAVE NO INTEREST IN
THE OUTCOME OF ANY PARTICULAR
HANDS OF ANY PARTICULAR GAME.
AND WE DON'T MAKE MONEY OFF IT.
YEAH YES BUT I AM I MEAN THAT
BUT BUT THE NOTION I THINK
IMPLICIT IN YOUR STATEMENT WAS
THE FACT THAT THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL HASN'T. SIGNED OFF ON
THE PRACTICE THAT WE HAVE A
THIRD PARTY BANKING AND THAT'S
NOT THE CASE AND I GUESS. THE
QUESTION I WOULD HAVE IS YOU
KNOW. I DON'T KNOW OF ANOTHER
EXAMPLE WHERE REGULATORY AGENCY
MAKES A REGULATORY
DETERMINATION. ON THE LEGALITY
OF WHAT THE THIRD PARTY BANKERS
ROLE IS HOW THEY DO IT. WHAT WE
PLAY HOW WE DO IT AND HAVE THAT
RECORD NOT BEFORE THE COURT AND-
DESPITE WHAT EVERYBODY SAYS HERE
I HAVEN'T HEARD A SINGLE
EXAMPLE. OF THE REGULATORY
PROCESS AND REGULATORY HISTORY
OF TWENTY FIVE YEARS NOT GIVING
GIVEN DEFERENCE BEFORE THE
COURT. AND THE OTHER ISSUE THAT
I WOULD ASK YOU IS EVEN IF THE
COURT RULES AGAINST THE CARD
CLUB. SOMEHOW THE AG IS NOT A
PARTY TO THE PROCEEDINGS. AND
THEY'RE DETERMINED LEGAL
DETERMINATION IS REALLY NOT AN
ISSUE BEFORE THE COURT. IT'S
WHAT WE'RE DOING THAT'S BEFORE
THE COURT. WHICH MAKES THIS
WHOLE THING RATHER CONVOLUTED TO
SAY THE LEAST. MR CHECKUPS.
THANK YOU AND I KNOW THIS IS A
REALLY TOUGH ONE IT'S A VERY
TOUGH ONE FOR ME- BECAUSE I HAVE
FRIENDS ON BOTH SIDES. I HAVE
NOTHING BUT RESPECT AND
ADMIRATION FOR THE TRIBES- BUT I
ALSO HAVE CARD ROOMS IN MY
DISTRICT I HAVE- THE BIKE.
LOCATED IN BELL GARDENS. AND
ALSO COMMERCE CASINO IS BORDERS
MY DISTRICT SO I HAVE- A LOT OF
EMPLOYEES FROM THE CITY OF
DOWNEY FROM BELL GARDENS WHO WHO
WORK IN COMMERCE CASINO AND ALSO
ON THE BIKE- SO IT'S A REALLY
TOUGH ONE BECAUSE I HAVE NOTHING
BUT LOVE AND ADMIRATION ON BOTH
SIDES- BUT MY QUESTION IS THIS-
SO IF. IF IT GOES THROUGH THE
COURTS AND- A JUDGE NEEDS TO
DETERMINE WHETHER THIS IS LEGAL
AND IF THE AG'S OFFICE HAS
ALREADY DETERMINED IT'S LEGAL.
HI MY CONCERN IS THAT THE
COURT'S ROLE IN THIS IS TO
INTERPRET THE LAW THEY'RE NOT
THEIR ROLE IS IN TO CREATE NEW
LAWS OR NEW LEGISLATION. SO I'M
CONCERNED AND MAYBE THE AUTHOR-
OR THEIR SUPPORTERS A BILL CAN
EXPLAIN TO ME HOW A QUART CAN
DETERMINE THE LEGALITY WHEN. IT
SEEMS LIKE THERE'S NOTHING IN
THE IN LAW. THAT'S TO WHAT'S
LEGAL AND WHAT'S NOT LEGAL SO
I'M JUST CURIOUS TO HEAR. SO
WHAT WOULD DO IS THEY WOULD TAKE
A LOOK AT THE GAMES THAT ARE
BEING OPERATED BY THE CARD ROOMS
IT WOULD LOOK AT HOW THOSE GAMES
ARE BEING OPERATED. THEN WHAT
THE COURT WOULD DO IS LOOK AT
THE CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION
WHICH PROHIBITS GAMES OF THE
TYPE OPERATED IN NEVADA- IN IN
NEW JERSEY. AND THEN IT WOULD
LOOK AT IT RELATED PENAL CODE
SECTIONS THAT DEFINE. WHAT A
BANKED GAME IS. WHAT A LEGAL
CONTROLLED GAME IS. AND THEN THE
COURT IS GOING TO APPLY THOSE
FACTS TO THAT LAW CAN MAKE A
DETERMINATION WHETHER THOSE
GAMES ARE LEGAL OR NOT. AND THE
ATTORNEY GENERAL HAS NOT DONE
THAT. THE BUREAU OF GAMBLING
CONTROL HAS APPROVED GAME RULES.
THE POINT THAT WE'RE GETTING AT
HERE IS THAT THE CAR ROOMS ARE
NOT COMPLYING WITH THOSE GAME
RULES IN SOME INSTANCES AND THAT
AND THAT IS THE MAIN POINT THAT
WERE ATTACKING HERE. IT'S WHAT
THE CARD ROOMS ARE DOING. IN IN
THEIR LOCATIONS TODAY WITH THESE
GAMES BY HAVING A SINGLE BANK
THE ENTIRE TIME. OPERATE IN THAT
POSITION AND NOT ROTATING THE
BANK AT ALL THEY ARE VIOLATING
THE LAW AND THEY WERE OPERATING
GAMES EXACTLY THE WAY THAT THEY
WOULD BE OPERATED IN TROUBLE
CASINOS. EXCEPT FOR THE FACT
THAT THERE'S ONE INDIVIDUAL
PERSON THAT DOES BOTH ROLES IN
THE CASINO BOTH THE DEALER IN
THE BANK. AND A CARD ROOM IT'S
ALL IT'S SAID TO PEOPLE A
BANKER. AND A DEALER AND AGAIN
THE POINT IS THE CARD ROOMS WHAT
THEY'RE DOING OR IS LEGAL AND I
APPRECIATE THE CHALLENGE FOR
SOMEONE LIKE YOURSELF THAT HAS
FRIENDS ON BOTH SIDES OF THIS
ISSUE. BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS
YOU'RE NOT PICKING A WINNER OR
LOSER HERE YOU'RE SIMPLY
ALLOWING IT TO GO TO COURT. AND
THE CARDROOM SHOULD RELISH THE
OPPORTUNITY TO DEFEAT THE TRIBES
ON THIS ISSUE AND TO PROVE UP
THE LEGALITY OF WHAT THEY'RE
DOING SO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL
HAS NOT CHIMED IN AND SAID
WHETHER IT'S- THEY BELIEVE. ARE
HERE SHE BELIEVES IT'S LEGAL OR
NOT. ATTORNEY GENERAL HASN'T.
MADE A DECISION A BECAUSE AGAIN
MY CONCERN IS WE'RE ASKING FOR A
COURT TO CREATE LAWS. AND NOT TO
INTERPRET IN IF THEY'RE SAYING
THERE'S ALREADY THE COURTS CAN
INTERPRET IT. I'M ASSUMING THAT
MEANS ATTORNEY GENERAL WOULD SAY
. THAT IT'S NOT IT'S NOT LEGAL
AND THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO TAKE
IT TO THE COURTS TO IF I MAY.
THAT MAKES SENSE YES. THE
ESSENTIAL QUESTION HERE IS NOT.
ABOUT THE SPECIFICS OF THE RULES
BUT HE BEGAN HE SAYS QUESTION IS
WHETHER OR NOT. THE CARD ROOMS
ARE PLAYING GAMES- IN A MANNER A
VERY SIMPLISTIC TERMS WHICH
WHICH ARE BASICALLY CASINO GAMES
. WHERE THAT FRANCHISE HAS BEEN
PROVIDED TO THE TRIBES. BY
CONSTITUTIONAL MEANT. THAT'S
WHAT. WE'RE LOOKING THROUGH THIS
LEGISLATION FOR A COURT TO RULE
ON. ADDITIONALLY AND ANSWER THAT
QUESTION WHICH IS. ARE IS THIS
STYLE OF GAME- CONSISTENT. WITH
THE PROVISIONS THAT EXISTED
PRIOR. ALL RIGHT OR IS IT IN
FACT IDENTICAL. TO WHAT WE HAVE
AFFORDED THE RIGHT. TO THE
TRIBES TO OFFER BY WAY OF THE
CONTRACT. ALL RIGHT LET ME ALSO
ADD- THE CARD ROOMS PREDATE ALL
OF THIS- AND THEY HAVE THE RIGHT
IN THE PREROGATIVE TO CONTINUE
OFFERING. GAMES THE IN IN IN THE
MANNER THAT THEY ALWAYS HAVE
PRIOR TO THEIR EXTENSION OF
THEIR OFFERINGS TO CASINO STYLE
GAMES. THAT IS WHAT THIS BILL
SEEKS TO DO WHICH IS. GET A
RULING FROM A COURT TO PROVIDE
THE TRIBES STANDING TO GET THAT
RULING TO DEFINITIVELY ANSWER
THE QUESTION OR ARE THESE GAMES
ISSUE CONSISTENT WITH THE-
RIGHTS AND PRIVILEGES AFFORDED
TO THE TRIED BY PROPOSITION ONE.
AND IS THERE A REASON WHY WE'RE
NOT GOING TO THE AGENT ATTORNEY
GENERAL FOR THAT QUESTION.
BECAUSE I THINK AS YOU'VE HEARD
THE ATTORNEY GENERAL. I MEAN I
GUESS THE IN ALGIERS FOREST FOR
THE TREES THE YOU KNOW THE
ATTORNEY GENERAL IS EFFECTIVELY-
SERVICE LOOK AT THE TREES SAME
WITH THE GAMBLING. COMMISSION
THIS IS THE FUNDAMENTAL ISSUE IS
WHETHER OR NOT THESE GAMES ARE
LEGAL AND BY LEGAL IT'S THIS IS
NOT ABOUT MANY OTHER MATTERS A
LOT GEN IS IT CONSISTENT IS A
COMPLIANT WITH THE ESSENTIAL
CARP THAT WE'VE MADE WITH THE
TRIBES. BY VIRTUE OF THE
PROPOSITION PASSED IN TWO
THOUSAND PROPONENT. I WOULD LIKE
TO HEAR FROM OPPOSITION. THANK
YOU- THE SELLING ARE GREAT
QUESTIONS- SO THE FIRST ANSWER
IS. THE PROPONENTS. DOM ARE
BASICALLY SAYING THAT THE GAME
SWEEP OF THIS THE FIRST TIME
I'VE HEARD THEM SAY IT'S NOT
ABOUT THE APPROVALS. IT'S ABOUT
THE WAY TO THE WERE PLAYING THE
GAMES THAT ARE NOT CONSISTENT
WITH THE APPROVALS. WELL THAT'S
A SIMPLE ENFORCEMENT QUESTION
AND IF YOU HAVE C. TURNING
GENERAL'S OFFICE IF THERE'S ANY
CAR CLUB IN THE STATE. THAT IS
PLAYING A GAME DIFFERENT THAN
THE WAY IT'S APPROVED. THEY WILL
BRING AN ENFORCEMENT ACTION SHUT
YOU DOWN. THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS
IS ABOUT. WHAT THIS IS ABOUT IS
THAT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S
OFFICE IS INTERPRETING THE PENAL
CODE SECTION. THAT'S WHAT ALL
THIS IS ABOUT IT'S NOT ABOUT
PROP ONE EIGHTY IN EXCLUSIVITY.
IT'S ABOUT THE QUESTION OF WHAT
THE BANK GAME AND WHAT'S- WHAT'S
AND WEBER POINT TWENTY ONE AND
THAT'S BEEN THE ISSUE ALONG AND
THE ATTORNEY GENERAL. TO ANSWER
YOUR QUESTION. HAS OF COURSE
APPOINT ON WHAT'S LEGAL NOT
LEGAL. HERE'S HERE'S AN EXAMPLE
THEM RULING THAT WE CAN PLAY
GAMES. BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT IT
WAS TOO CLOSE TO TWENTY ONE. ARM
AND THE WAY WE BANKS SINCE
MISTER BIG KNIFE IS BOARDED UP
THREE OR FOUR TIMES- GETTING
INTO THE G. O. ISSUES ALL GO
THERE A LITTLE BIT TO SAY. WE
OFFER THE BANK UNLIKE IN THE IF
YOU GO TO A TRIBE TRIBE CARDROOM
KOTTARAKKARA RUSH I WOULD
ENCOURAGE ALL OF YOU TO GO TO
OUR GARDEN. WHAT HAPPENS. THE
DEALER OFFERS THE BANK TO EVERY
PLAYER AND EVENTUALLY IT WILL
GET TO A THIRD PARTY BANKER IF
NO ONE ELSE TAKES. THE BANK. END
. THE BANKER CAN LIMIT. THE
AMOUNT OF EXPOSURE TO THE AMOUNT
OF MONEY. BEING THAT THEY WILL
BACK. ON LIKE A REAL BANK WHERE
THEY- WILL BANK ANY AND ALL BETS
. SO THERE ARE FUNDAMENTAL
DIFFERENCES IN THE WAY WE BANK
AND THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S
OFFICE IS RECOGNIZE THAT AND
THAT'S WHY FOR TWENTY FIVE YEARS
THEY'VE APPROVED WHAT WE DO. SO
THAT'S THE ANSWER AND THIS IS
THE ABSURDITY OF IT. BECAUSE
IT'S AS IF YOU HAD TO SUBWAY
SHOPS. ONE SUBWAY SHOP DOESN'T
WANT THE OTHER ONE TO COMPETE
WITH THEM THEY BOTH HAVE
BUSINESS LICENSES SOMEONE SAYS
I'M GONNA GO SUIT THIS GUY.
BECAUSE HE'S COMPETING WITH ME
THEY SAY WELL WAIT AVAL BIBLE
LICENSE TO DO EVERYTHING THAT
I'M DOING. THEY SAY. TO BET
WE'RE GONNA SEE ANYONE NOT GONNA
SUE THE CITY THAT GAVE THE
LICENSE REDUCE TO YOU. THANK YOU
THIS IS AGAIN THIS IS A REALLY
TOUGH ONE BECAUSE I HAVE FRIENDS
ON BOTH SIDES. THANK YOU THANK
YOU MISTER KALRA THANK YOU
MISTER CHAIRMAN THANK YOU MY
COLLEAGUES WERE. ASSEMBLY GOOD
QUESTIONS THAT SPRING REALLY
GOOD DIALOGUE AND- YOU KNOW I
ALSO HAVE TWO COURTROOMS IN MY
JURISDICTION I ALSO HAVE A GREAT
RELATIONSHIP WITH THE TRIBES AND
DO BELIEVE IN. A TRIBAL
SOVEREIGNTY AND THE IMPORTANCE
OF IT AS WELL- BUT LIKE ANY.
QUESTION OF MANY QUESTIONS COME
UP FOR US AS THE LAWYERS THE
FACTS THERE'S PROCESS. AND THE
LEGAL QUESTION I THINK IS BEING.
DISCUSSED AT LENGTH ABOUT THAT
THE ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT
WAS ASKED. JUST A FOLLOW UP. TO
THE EIGHT AG DETERMINES. WHETHER
THESE GAMES ARE LEGAL OR NOT AND
MAKES A DETERMINATION. AYE AND
THEN SIGNS OFF. ON IT A GAME OR
NOT AND THAT. DETERMINATIONS
QUESTIONED. BY THROUGH THIS
LEGISLATION ALLOWS THE
OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE- WITHOUT
THIS LEGISLATION. THE GIVEN
CURRENT THE CURRENT STATE ALONG
GIVEN THE AUTHORITY THE CHIEF.
THE OTHER TRIBES IN ONE HAVE
STANDING. THAT'S CORRECT THANK
YOU THAT IS GREAT LEGAL LEGAL
QUESTION THAT IS CORRECT SO THIS
IS GIVING TRIBES LEGAL STANDING
FOR A VERY SHORT WINDOW- IT
GIVES A STATE. OF SOVEREIGNTY SO
YOU CAN COME AFTER THE STATE OR
THAT. AG MORE THE GAMING
COMMISSION FOR THE DECISIONS.
THEY'RE MAKING. BUT THE FACT
THAT IT DOES GO GO AFTER THE AG.
LEGAL DETERMINATION THAT THE
THEM AND- IS A QUESTION AS TO
WHETHER. WHETHER SHOULD BE
LOOKED AT IN OVERNIGHT OR AT
LEAST A TERMINATION OF THE AG
SHOULD BE PART OF THE RECORD AND
THAT I JUST. DON'T KNOW I'M NOT
AS FAMILIAR ENOUGH ABOUT THIS
LAW TO NOTE THAT THIS AREA OF
LAW. TO KNOW WHERE THAT SHOULD
FALL BUT I THINK THAT'S AN OPEN
QUESTION TO DETERMINE WHETHER.
GIVEN THE FACTOR CHALLENGING THE
AG'S DECISION. IT MAY BE
SOMETHING OF NOTE FOR A COURT TO
HAVE AS PART. OF THEIR DECISION
MAKING PROCESS WHY WHO WHAT AND
WHY WHAT THE DANGERS FROM AND
WHY. RIGHT AND THEN BACK TO BE
INCORPORATED INTO THE COURT'S
DECISION MAKING PROCESS I JUST
WANT TO. PUT THAT OUT THERE
BECAUSE IT REALLY IS A STANDING
ISSUE THAT THIS CASE IS THAT
THIS CASE. THAT THIS BILL IS
ABOUT IT'S. ABOUT LIMITED
STANDING AND- IT'S- WITH THIS
THERE IS STAND. TO CHALLENGE THE
DECISION MADE BY THE G. IS THAT.
CORRECT WITHOUT THIS THERE WOULD
BE NO STANDING FOR TRIBES TO
ENFORCE OUR EXCLUSIVE RIGHTS.
OKAY SO I THAT'S REALLY WHAT
THIS. IS ABOUT I MEAN THERE'S
ALSO THERE'S A LAWYER'S THE
FACTS BUT MOST OF THE FACTORS
BEEN DETAIL COMES UNDER. G. O.
JURISDICTION OF THE BOX WITH ITS
PLAYER GAME DEALER. YOU KNOW AND
THE THIRD THING IS PROCESS AND
THAT THERE IS SOME FRUSTRATION
QUITE FRANKLY WITH PROCESS HAS
GIVEN. YOU KNOW ABOUT IT THERE'S
A REASON WHY A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
EVEN WITH THE FANTASTIC ANALYSIS
THAT'S DONE THERE'S STILL A LOT
OF OPEN QUESTIONS BECAUSE- IT'S
BEEN A VERY LITTLE AMOUNT OF
TIME FOR US. TO CONSIDER THESE
QUESTIONS YOU KNOW THE- IT'S A
BILL WE GOT A FEW DAYS BE GIVEN
THE HOLIDAYS TO REALLY. A PONDER
AND THESE ARE VERY DIFFICULT
QUESTIONS THAT AS EVERYONE'S
ACKNOWLEDGES BUT HAS BEEN. HAVE
BEEN DISCUSSED AND FOUGHT. HOPE
ALWAYS IS TO FIND OPPORTUNITIES
TO GET- SOMEWHAT TO SOME KIND OF
RESOLUTION THAT MAY. THAT MAY
INCLUDE I KNOW THIS IS BEEN
TRIED BEFORE. AND MAYBE THEY
BECAUSE IT HASN'T ACHIEVED
SUCCESS THE TRIBES ARE HERE NOW
. IN THE AG'S. OF THE SEE IF
THAT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S
OFFICE WANTS TO ENGAGE IN SOME
KIND OF OPPORTUNITY TO GET- SOME
CLARITY I MEAN I KNOW THEY MADE
THEIR DETERMINATION. BUT SHORT
OF THAT OCCASION MAYBE THERE'S
SOME OTHER WAY AND I DON'T KNOW
THAT. AGAIN THE FACT THAT THE-
THE BRIDGE IS BEING GIVEN THIS
IN A RELATIVELY PERIOD. IT'S
HARD TO THINK ABOUT ALL THE-
OPPORTUNITIES THERE BUT- I DO
THINK THAT THESE ARE THERE ARE
SOME OPEN QUESTIONS- THAT THAT
NEED TO BE DETERMINED- AND I
THINK THAT IF THE- CAR ROOMS DO
BELIEVE THAT THESE ARE LEGAL
GAME. DON'T THEY- YOU KNOW IF
THERE IS STANDING THAT'S GIVEN
THE TRIED TO HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO TRY TO SHOW THAT
BUT I DO IN MY MOTHER STILL AN
OPEN QUESTION. AS TO WHETHER
SHOULD BE DE NOVO REVIEW OR AT
THE VERY LEAST ALLOW THE
OPPORTUNITY FOR THE AG'S
OPINION. AS TO WHY THEY STARTED
BY THOSE GAMES TO BE PART OF THE
PROCESS AND SO YES YOU HAVE A
RESPONSE TO THAT IS TO. THAT'S
WHERE MY MIND IS GOING TO RIGHT
NOW. SO THERE IS NOTHING IN THE
BILL. PREVENTING THE CARD ROOMS
FROM INTRODUCING WHATEVER
EVIDENCE THEY HAVE TO SUPPORT
THEIR POSITION. SO THE EVIDENCE
THE YOU JUST IDENTIFIED.
PRESUMABLY THEY WERE OFFERING TO
THE RECORD FOR THE COURT. TO
CONSIDER FOR PURPOSES OF THE
DECISION. AND AS FOR THE
CHARACTERS. OF THE AG. I JUST
THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO
REMEMBER THAT THE AG HAS BEEN
INVOLVED IN KIND OF PRELIMINARY
REGULATORY PROCESS. OVER THE
PAST SIXTY YEARS. BECAUSE THE AG
HAS CONCERNS ABOUT THE LEGALITY
OF WHAT CARD ROOMS ARE DOING.
OKAY I ABOVE THANK YOU AT THE
ADDRESS THE QUESTIONS REST MY
COLLEAGUES THINKING. THANK YOU.
SEE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS FROM COMMITTEE I YOU
KNOW. I SPENT SOME TIME ON THIS
ISSUE MET WITH. YOU KNOW MY
FRIENDS ON BOTH SIDES OF THIS-
SOME EXTENDED PERIODS OF TIME I
THINK. YOU KNOW THERE'S SORT OF
FOR ME BUT IT KIND OF BREAKS
DOWN AND ALMOST TWO CATEGORIES.
ONE IS THERE ARE A LOT OF GEO
BUT I CAN'T SAY ISSUES THAT
WOULD BE COVERED UNDER THE JIO
COMMITTEE. AND THEN THERE'S
ISSUES THAT ARE COVERED BEFORE
THIS COMMITTEE AND THIS
COMMITTEE REALLY HAS IN MY VIEW
FEWER AND MORE AND MORE NARROW
ISSUES AND ESSENTIALLY COMES
DOWN TO KIND OF THE SOVEREIGN
IMMUNITY- AND THE STANDARD OR-
EVERY FEW ISSUES WHICH I THINK
WERE VERY EFFECTIVELY POINTED
OUT OF THE HOUSES. SO AS FAR FOR
ME WHAT. PULLED ME OVER TO BEING
IN FAVOR OF THIS BILL WAS THAT
IT'S THE ISSUES THAT ARE BEFORE
ACTUALLY THIS COMMITTEE. AND
WILL THIS PERHAPS HELP THE
PROCESS AND MAYBE INTO THIS
ISSUE THAT MANY OF US SEEM LIKE
IT'S KIND OF. GROUNDHOG DAY AND
WE'VE YOU KNOW IN THAT TIME
WE'VE BEEN SOME OF US HAVE BEEN
HERE A LITTLE BIT LONGER THAN
OTHERS. HAVE SEEN KIND OF THIS
ISSUE COME FOR MAYBE MAYBE THIS
DOES AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE
SPENT SORT OF A YOU KNOW SPEAK
FOR MYSELF I'M GUESSING FOR
OTHERS SO IT'S- THAT WOULD SORT
OF BE THE HOPE. ULTIMATELY SORT
OF THE ROLE OF LET'S SAY THAT
YOU KNOW THAT THE THIRD PARTY
PLAYER I SEE THAT MORE IS A GEO
ISSUE. AND WHAT WE'RE HERE KIND
OF I THINK OUR ROLE HERE IS MORE
IS WHAT'S THE PROCESS GOING TO
BE AND IS THIS. HELP MORE THAN
IT HURTS. TO ME ULTIMATELY I
WOULD SAY YES TO THAT QUESTION-
SO THAT FOR THAT REASON IS WHY
IT WILL BE SUPPORTING- THIS BILL
TODAY. SO WITH THAT- I'VE MOTION
FOR HIS REST. HER SECOND MISTER
HANEY. I THINK THE COMMITTEE FOR
THEIR ATTENTION ON THIS I THINK
ALL THE WITNESSES WHO ARE HERE-
AND THE MOTION IS. JIM PASS AS
AMENDED TO THE RULES COMMITTEE.
WITH THAT YOU MAY. CLOSE THANK
YOU AND THANK YOU MEMBERS FOR.
YOU KNOW A VERY THOROUGH
DISCUSSION HERE. SO TO REITERATE
WHAT WE'RE SEEKING HERE IS NOT
TO LEGISLATE. A SOLUTION- WHAT
WE'RE SEEKING EXCUSE TO PUT THIS
BEFORE COURT- AND TO EXTEND
STANDING FOR THE TRIBES. TO LET
A COURT RULED DEFINITIVELY ON
THIS LONG STANDING DISPUTE. AND
SO TO MISTER BIGGEST POINT. THAT
COURT. IN LOOKING AT THE ISSUE.
IS YOU KNOW CERTAINLY THERE'S
PRETTY FOR ACCEPTING ANY AND
ALL. EVIDENCE IS ALLOWED FOR BY
THE COURT. AND WHAT WE'RE
SEEKING IN THIS CASE IS A VERY
CIRCUMSCRIBED PROCESS AS YOU'VE
HEARD- WHICH WOULD CONSOLIDATE
COMPLAINTS PROVIDE A LIMITED
WINDOW. BUT WHERE WEEKS WE YOU
KNOW THAT THE TRIBES IT FINALLY
HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY IN A COURT
OF LAW. TO GET AN ANSWER TO THE
QUESTION OF DO OR DON'T THE
GAMES BEING OFFERED BY COURT
ROOMS. DO THEY CONFLICT OR NOT
WITH THE STATE'S OBLIGATION
UNDER THE LEGISLATION PASSED BY
THE PROPOSITION WHICH AFFORDS
THE TRIBES THE EXCLUSIVE
FRANCHISE CREEK SINGSTAR GAME
WITH THAT I RESPECTFULLY ASK
YOUR UNCLE THANK YOU SO CLERK
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. MENTION
MENTION AYE CONNELLY. CONNELLY.
I DIXON. HANEY ARE HANEY I
CALLED. I KALRA AYE PROJECT- OUT
. THESE HAPPEN. REYES FIVE REYES
I SANCHEZ. SANCHEZ I MCCANN-
THAT WERE. YOUR BILL IS OUT
THANK YOU THANK YOU MA'AM. THANK
YOU WE WANT DO ADD ONS. AS A.
THANK.
THIS LICENSE. YOU'RE IN YOU ARE
ENTITLED TO GO OUT FOR THAT ONE
IS RAISE THAT YOU DESERVE IT YOU
DESERVE IT. OKAY. OKAY WE WILL
DO ADD ONS RIGHT NOW AND ASK
PEOPLE TO PLEASE LEAVE THE ROOM
QUIETLY. SO WE CAN DO ADD ONS.
OKAY WE WILL START WITH ITEM
NUMBER FOUR. SB THREE TEN DODD
ASKED HER TO CALL THE ROLL.
KALRA COLORI SANCHEZ SANCHEZ I.
THANK ITEM NUMBER SEVEN SB THREE
NINETY LIMÓN ESCORT CALL THE
ROLL. KALRA KALRA I HAPPEN. ITEM
NUMBER EIGHT SB FIVE FORTY NINE
NEWMAN AYE NGUYEN EVERYBODY.
OKAY S. NUMBER NINE SB FIVE FIVE
THREE CORTES C. KALRA I HAVE
KALRA AYE SANCHEZ SANCHEZ NO.
ITEM TEN SB SEVEN HUNDRED
BRADFORD. KALRA ALL RIGHTS
SANCHEZ SANCHEZ NO ITEM ELEVEN
SEVEN SB SEVEN SIXTEEN EVERADO
GAL. HAPPY ONE SECOND WHAT'S IT
IS THAT AND SO IT HAPPENED OKAY
NOW WE CAN DO VOTE CHANGED
WHERE- TO SANCHEZ WHAT WOULD YOU
LIKE. ON WHICH ITEM. ONE SEC SB
SEVEN ONE SIX- MS SANCHEZ IS
GOING FROM NOT KNOWING HE HAS
NOT VOTING TO HI. THIS THIS. THE
SMARTEST.
YEAH. THANK YOU.
ALWAYS YEAH. SEE YOU NEXT.
RIGHT.
YEAH. YEAH.
TO
YOU SEE WE. OR-
WHAT.
SO WORLD WAITING FOR NINE HAPPEN
. I. EXACTLY. WE HAVE ALWAYS
WANTED. OKAY WE WILL- OPEN THE
ROLE ON ITEM NUMBER SEVEN I
ASKED HER TO PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL SB SIX THREE NINETY LONG
HAPPEN BENIGN THEN OPEN THE RAW
ON ITEM NUMBER EIGHT SB FIVE
FORTY NINE NEWMAN BAKIR PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL HAPPEN. AND THEN
ITEM NUMBER ELEVEN SB SEVEN
SIXTEEN EL DORADO GAL ASKED HER
KALRA. I THANK YOU THAT
COMPLETES THIS MEETING OF THE
JUDICIARY COMMITTEE MANAGER.