GOOD EVERYONE THE ASSEMBLY
TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE IS
CALLED TO ORDER. WELCOME WE THE
HEARING ROOM IS OPEN FOR
ATTENDANCE OF THE HEARING AND IT
CAN ALSO BE WATCHING A LIVE
STREAM ON THE ASSEMBLY'S WEBSITE
WE ENCOURAGE THE PUBLIC TO
PROVIDE WRITTEN TESTIMONY BY
VISITING THE COMMITTEE'S WEBSITE
AND NOTED ANY WRITTEN TESTIMONY
. MAYBE READ INTO THE RECORD AT
IS CONSIDERED TO BE PUBLIC
COMMENT IT WOULD CAN ALSO BE
REPRINTED WE WILL OUT TWO
MINUTES EACH FOR TWO PRIMARY
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT AND
OPPOSITION YOU CANNOT AT THE
TIME SO IF YOU ONLY HAVE ONE
WITNESS THEY STILL ONLY GET TWO
MINUTES. AND THE WITNESSES MUST
TESTIFY IN PERSON IN THE HEARING
ROOM ADDITIONAL WITNESS COMMENTS
WILL BE LIMITED ONLY TO YOUR
NAME ORGANIZATION ON YOUR
POSITION AND THOSE COMMENTS CAN
BE EITHER IN PERSON OR ON THE
TELEPHONE FUSER TELEPHONE
SERVICE THE NUMBER TO CALL IS
877-692-8950 SEVEN. AND THE
ACCESS CODE IS. EIGHTEEN FIFTY
ELEVEN HUNDRED. FINALLY THE
ASSEMBLY HAS EXPERIENCED A
NUMBER OF DISRUPTIONS TO
COMEDIAN FOR PROCEEDINGS IN THE
LAST FEW YEARS. CONDUCT THAT
DISRUPTS DISTURBS OR OTHERWISE
IMPEDE THE ORDERLY CONDUCT OF
THE HEARING IS PROHIBITED SUCH
CONDUCT MAY INCLUDE TALKING OR
MAKING LOUD NOISES FROM THE
AUDIENCE UTTERING LOUD
THREATENING OR ABUSIVE LANGUAGE
SPEAKING LONGER THAN THE TIME
ALLOTTED EXTENDED DISCUSSION OF
MATTERS NOT RELATED TO THE
SUBJECT OF THE HEARING AND OTHER
DISRUPTIVE ACTS. TO ADDRESS ANY
DISRUPTIVE CONDUCT I WILL TAKE
THE FOLLOWING STEPS IF AN
INDIVIDUAL DISRUPTS OUR HEARING
PROCEDURE I WILL DIRECT THEM TO
STOP AND WARN THEM NOT CONTINUE
DISRUPTIONS MAY RESULT IN
REMOVAL FROM THE BUILDING. WILL
ALSO DOCUMENT ON THE RECORD THE
PERSON INTO INVOLVED AND THE
NATURE OF THE CONDUCT AND WE
MIGHT HAVE TO TEMPORARILY
RECESSED THE HEARING. AND IF YOU
DON'T STOP WE WILL ASK YOU TO
LEAVE THE BUILDING WITH THE
ASSISTANCE OF THE ASSEMBLY
SERGEANTS. I THANK YOU FOR YOUR
COOPERATION. WITH THAT WE WILL
BEGIN OUR HEARING AND I WOULD
LIKE TO NOTE THAT ASSEMBLY
MEMBER ALVAREZ WILL BE SUBBING
TODAY FOR ASSEMBLY MEMBER
LOWENTHAL. WE DON'T HAVE A
RIGHT- WE DON'T HAVE A QUORUM
RIGHT NOW ONCE WE DO WE WILL
TAKE ROLL CALL. AND WE WILL ALSO
TAKE UP THE FIFTEEN BILLS ON OUR
CONSENT CALENDAR. WITH THAT I DO
SEE AS A SENATOR SKINNER HERE
WELCOME. YOU MAY COME FORWARD
AND BEGIN WHEN EVER YOU ARE
READY. AND THIS IS FOR S. B.
TWO
THIRTY THREE TO THIRTY THREE.
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS
PLEASE TO PRESENT SB TWO THIRTY
THREE AND FIRST I WANT TO- FIVE
CONVEY THAT I WILL BE ACCEPTING
THE COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS AND
THEY WILL BE TAKEN IN THE NEXT
COMMITTEE. AND THOSE- AMENDMENTS
INCLUDE. LIMITING THIS TO.
PASSENGER VEHICLES AND LIGHT
DUTY TRUCKS ARE ELIMINATING
HEAVY DUTY TRUCKS ELIMINATING
SOME OF THE OTHER.
CLASSIFICATIONS OF VEHICLES. I'M
THE PURPOSE OF THIS BILL IS TO
ENSURE THAT EVERYONE OF EVERY
CALIFORNIAN WHO BUYS IN THE V.
IN THE FUTURE PASSED THE-
BENEFIT OF THAT ELECTRIC VEHICLE
HAVING WHAT IS KNOWN AS BI
DIRECTIONAL CAPABILITY. NOW SOME
OF YOU MAY HAVE SEEN THE
ADVERTISEMENTS BY FORD FOR THE
F. ONE FIFTY TRUCK WHERE THEY
AGGRESSIVELY ADVERTISE IN THESE
WERE PLAYED DURING THE SUPER
BOWL THEY WERE PLAYED DURING THE
PLAYOFFS THE NBA PLAYOFFS
VARIOUS OTHER THINGS. WHERE THE
TRUCK PULLS UP TO A MOUNTAIN
CABIN. AND THE- DRIVER JUMPS OUT
AND PLUGS THE TRUCK INTO THAT
CABIN AND LIGHTS UP THEIR HOUSE
THAT WAY NOW WHILE. I DON'T
EXPECT NECESSARILY PEOPLE TO USE
THEIR EV'S ON A REGULAR BASIS TO
ALIGHT THEIR HOUSE CERTAINLY
WHEN WE ARE FACING FOR EXAMPLE
PLANNED OUTAGES OR BLACKOUTS DUE
TO A- VERY HUGE DEMAND ON OUR
GRID. OR WHEN WE'RE FACING TIMES
WHERE ELECTRICITY RATES THE FEW
HOURS A DAY WHERE THEY ARE AT
THEIR HIGHEST. THEN A CONSUMER
COULD USE THEIR EBT TO POWER
THEIR HOME FOR EXAMPLE. BUT IF
THEY'RE EEVEE DOES NOT HAVE BI
DIRECTIONAL CAPABILITY THEY
WON'T BE ABLE TO DO IT NOW WE'RE
SEEING A TREND RIGHT NOW. WHERE
THE HIÆN DVDS ARE. ADVERTISING
IN FEATURING THIS CAPABILITY.
AND OTHER EV'S FOR EXAMPLE THE
CHEVROLET BOLT CHEVROLET. HAS
ANNOUNCED THEY'RE TAKING OFF THE
MARKET THE BOLTS WHICH IS A MORE
AFFORDABLE. AND WHILE I THINK
THIS TREND WILL CHANGE OVER TIME
WHAT I DON'T WANT TO SEE IS AB
MANUFACTURERS. PUTTING THIS
CAPABILITY ONLY IN HIGH END EV'S
AND THUS BENEFITING ONLY THOSE
WHO CAN AFFORD A HIGH IN D. V.
VERSUS THE REST OF US. AND THE
INTERESTING THING IS THE MOST
AFFORDABLE EVEY ON THE MARKET
WHICH IS THE LEAST SIGNEES HAS
ALWAYS HAD. BI DIRECTIONAL
CAPABILITY WHICH IS A GREAT
THING AND IT ALSO PROVES THAT IT
DOESN'T ADD COST OR MAKE THE
EV'S MORE EXPENSIVE BECAUSE IT
ALWAYS HAS. BUT GIVEN THAT WE'RE
SEEING THIS TREND NOW. OF
MANUFACTURES GOING TOWARDS HIÆN
DVDS I JUST DON'T WANT
CALIFORNIA CONSUMERS TO BE PUT
AT A DISADVANTAGE WE'RE THE ONLY
E. B. YOU CAN BUY IN A FEW YEARS
THAT HAS THIS CAPABILITY WOULD
BE THE MOST EXPENSIVE ONES. SO
WHAT THIS BILL WOULD DO IS HELP
ENSURE THAT ALL OF US ARE ON A
LEVEL PLAYING FIELD WHEN WE
PURCHASE A NAVY THAT BY MODEL
YEAR TWENTY THIRTY. THE ELECTRIC
VEHICLES WOULD HAVE THIS
CAPABILITY AND THOSE VEHICLES
BEING LIMITED TO. PASSENGER
VEHICLES AND THE LIGHT DUTY
TRUCKS. I'M AND WITH THAT I'D
LIKE TO HAVE MY WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT. AND THAT IS ELLIE COHEN
WHO IS THE CEO OF THE CLIMATE
CENTER AND GREGORY. PALAI NAY
FROM AT CEO OF NEW V. THANK YOU
AND WHAT PRIMARY WITNESSES YOU
OF YOUR CHOICE YOU CAN EITHER
TESTIFY THERE OR YOU CAN COME UP
TO THE TO THE TABLE TOPS YOU
EVERYONE. WHY DON'T YOU COME UP
TO THE TABLE THAT WAY IF THERE'S
QUESTIONS IT'LL BE A LITTLE BIT
EASIER AND YOU CAN STAY THERE-
AND- YOU CAN STAY THERE THROUGH
THE HEARING. AND THE SAME WITH
OPPOSITION WHEN WE HAVE THE TWO
PRIMARY OPPOSITION WITNESSES
WILL INVITE YOU TO COME UP TO
THE TABLE AND THAT WAY YOU CAN
STAY REMAIN THERE IF IT TO SEE
IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS FROM
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. THANK YOU.
GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIR FOR YOU TO
PRESS THE BUTTON. THANK YOU. I
SPEAK LOUDLY BUT- ALL RIGHT
THANK YOU SO MUCH CHAIR FRIEDMAN
AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS I'M ELLIE
COHEN CEO OF THE CLIMATE CENTER
AND MANY THANKS TO SENATOR
SKINNER FOR YOUR PIONEERING
LEADERSHIP ON THIS. AS WE FACE
GROWING CLIMATE EXTREMES WE
CANNOT AFFORD TO CONTINUE
RELYING ON OUTDATED AND
POLLUTING TECHNOLOGIES TO KEEP
OUR LIGHTS ON AND AVOID POWER
OUTAGES. POLLUTING GAS PEAKER
PLANTS AND DIRTY DIESEL
GENERATORS DISPROPORTIONATELY
HARM LOWER INCOME AND WORKING
CLASS COMMUNITIES. EXACERBATING
ENVIRONMENTAL INJUSTICE. WE HAVE
A BETTER OPTION BY MAKING
ELECTRIC VEHICLES BI
DIRECTIONAL. WE CAN USE THESE
BATTERIES ON WHEELS TO STORE
ENERGY WHEN IT'S PLENTIFUL AND
SEND POWER BACK TO OUR HOMES
BUSINESSES AND THE GRID WHEN
NEEDED. THIS CAN BENEFIT
EVERYONE FROM RURAL AREAS TO
CITIES AND HELP ENSURE THAT
ENERGY RESILIENCE IS AVAILABLE
TO EVERY CALIFORNIANS REGARDLESS
OF INCOME LEVEL. SB TWO THIRTY
THREE WILL HELP UNLOCK THE FULL
POTENTIAL OF EV'S AND CLEAN
ENERGY IT'S SUPPORTED BY NEARLY
A HUNDRED ORGANIZATIONS. TESLA
IS MAKING ALL OF ITS VEHICLES BI
DIRECTIONAL BY TWENTY TWENTY
FIVE AND BI DIRECTIONALITY IS
STANDARD AS YOU JUST HEARD FOR
NISSAN LEAFS. MAKING EV'S
BIDIRECTIONAL IS SIMPLE
INEXPENSIVE A SOFTWARE UPGRADE
AND DOABLE NOW AS STANDARDS
ALREADY EXIST. AND BI
DIRECTIONAL CHARGING CAN BE
MANAGED TO MAINTAIN BATTERY
LIFE. USING EVEN A TINY
PERCENTAGE OF OUR GROWING EVEY
CAPACITY WE CAN AVOID BLACKOUTS
SECURE A MORE RELIABLE POWER
GRID AND SUPPORT CLIMATE JUSTICE
BY PROVIDING CLEAN POWER
GENERATION DURING PEAK PERIODS.
THIS BILL SENDS A CRITICAL
MARKET SIGNAL IT HELPS
CALIFORNIA LEVERAGE THE MASS OF
THE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT ARE
BEING INVESTED IN EV'S FOR
CALIFORNIA NOW. AND HELPS ENSURE
ENERGY RESILIENCE IS AVAILABLE
FOR EVERY CALIFORNIAN AT EVERY
EASY PRICE POINT WE URGE YOUR
AYE VOTE TO HELP CALIFORNIA
BUILD THE GREED FOR THE FUTURE
ONE THAT'S CLEAN AFFORDABLE
RELIABLE. EQUITABLE AND SAFE
THANK YOU. THANK YOU YOUR NEXT
WITNESS PLEASE. GERMAN FRIEDMAN
COMMITTEE MEMBERS MY NAME IS
GREAT FROM AND I'M THE CEO OF
MOVING HOLDING CORPORATION TO
PROD CALIFORNIA COMPANY. AND A
WORLD LEADER IN BI DIRECTIONAL
VEHICLE TO GRID. TECHNOLOGY I'M
HERE TO SUPPORT THE SENATE BILL
TWO THIRTY THREE AND SHOW MY
KNOWLEDGE ON THE VEHICLE TO GRID
OF THE TWO G. TECHNOLOGY AND
ADOPTION. THEN YOU THE INTO
MOBILE STORAGE IS CRITICAL TO
PROVIDE A FIX TO BE T. R. AGREED
NEEDS THE STRATEGY TO ENSURE
THAT CAN BE FUNNY I WAS THE
ENERGY STORAGE IT NEEDS TO
MANAGER GRADE WITH PERMANENTLY
WIND AND SOLAR BASED INNOVATION.
MIGHT ACTUALLY BE PROVIDE A
HEDGE AGAINST POTENTIAL SUPPLY
CHAIN CHALLENGES AND OTHER
FACTORS THAT MAY IMPACT THE
SCALE AND PACE OF STATIONARY
STORAGE DEPLOYMENTS. MY COMPANY
NUVIAS AND MATCH REAL WORLD
EXPERTISE IN BI DIRECTIONAL
CHARGING. TO THEM CALIFORNIA
WE'RE HELPING TEN SCHOOL
DISTRICTS USING VEHICLE TO GRID
TO REDUCE THE COST OF
ELECTRIFYING THEIR FLEETS. AND
GIVING THEM MORE MONEY FOR
STUDENT INSTRUCTION WHILE
SUPPORTING CLEAN TRANSPORTATION
AND REVERT RENEWABLE
INTEGRATION. THESE PROJECTS
INCLUDE VEHICLE TO GRID
INTEGRATION IS THREE DIFFERENT
SCHOOL BUS MANUFACTURERS SO IT
CAN BE GONE TODAY. IN SAN DIEGO
. DURING LAST YEAR'S EASTER WEEK
TEN DAY. THEN THE HEAT WAVE THE
CAL VALLEY YOU SCHOOL DISTRICT.
USED A V. TWO G. P. TO HELP KEEP
THE LIGHTS ON. NOW WE HAVE THREE
SCHOOL BUS FLEETS IN SAN DIEGO
COUNTY PROVIDING NEARLY ONE MAKE
ABOUT THE CAPACITY. FOR THE
SUMMERS EMERGENCY VOTED ACTION
PROGRAM. NUVI IS ALSO IN THE
PROCESS OF DEPLOYING ANOTHER ONE
POINT FIVE MEGABYTE THE VEHICLE
TO GRID IN THE CITY OF LOS
ANGELES. SUPPORTING A
SIGNIFICANT SCHOOL BUS EDUCATION
EFFORT. IN EUROPE WE HAVE BEEN
DOING VEHICLE TO GRADE WITH
NISSAN LEAF ON THE EIGHTY SEVEN
YEARS. EACH OF THESE VEHICLE AS
GENERATED AN AVERAGE OF THREE
THOUSAND DOLLARS PER YEAR
REDUCING THE TOTAL COST OF
OWNERSHIP BY A BY BY ABOUT 40%
OVER THE LIFE OF THE VEHICLE
WITHOUT IMPACTING THE BATTERY
LIFE. WE SEE V. TWO G. AS AN
ESSENTIAL TECHNOLOGY TO ACHIEVE
EVEN DEPLOYMENT GOALS WITH
KEEPING ENERGY COSTS EQUITABLE.
CALIFORNIA MISLEAD THE
BIDIRECTIONAL CHARGING
REVOLUTION AND MAKE SURE THESE
TECHNOLOGIES AVAILABLE TO
EVERYONE NOT JUST THE VA REACH
WILL DEMAND THIS OPTION. IN THE
HIGH END TV SEGMENTS. SB THIRTY
THREE WILL MAKE SURE THAT THESE
TECHNOLOGIES AVAILABLE TO
EVERYONE PROVIDING A MORE
RESILIENT RELIABLE AND EQUITABLE
ENERGY SYSTEM THANK YOU. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH IS THERE ANYONE
ELSE IN THE ROOM WOULDN'T IT-
IT- INTERESTED IN. TESTIFYING IN
SUPPORT OF THE BILL. ALL YOU
NEED TO HANG ON WE NEED TO PUT
THE MICROPHONE ON. IT IS TO
REMIND EVERYONE JUST NAME
WHOEVER YOU'RE REPRESENTING IN
YOUR POSITION. REBECCA MARKETS
REPRESENTING HELPER AGAIN
SUPPORT. PERSECUTORS HE ON
BEHALF OF THE CITY OF WEST
HOLLYWOOD IN SUPPORT. THE SAN
HIM CLEANER THREE KIDS STRONGLY
SUPPORT. SO FAIR AFRICA WITH THE
COALITION FOR CLEAN AIR IN
SUPPORT. LILLIAN MARVIS WITH MC
ET CALIFORNIA'S FIRST CCA HERE
IN SUPPORT THANK YOU.
DISCOURAGED WITH THE CENTER FOR
BIOLOGICAL DIVERSITY IN STRONG
SUPPORT THANKS. THANK YOU BIRD
RT ON BEHALF OF CALIFORNIA STATE
STRONG INDIVISIBLE COALITION OF
OVER EIGHTY LOCAL INDIVISIBLE
GROUPS IN SUPPORT OF SB. FIFTY
THREE. MARGIE FERGUSON. OF
REPRESENTING THE CALIFORNIA
INDIVISIBLE CLIMATE JUSTICE
WORKGROUP IN SUPPORT. CYNTHIA
SHALLOT REPRESENTING.
INDIVISIBLE GREEN TEAM IN
SEGMENT ELECTRIC VEHICLE
ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT. MARK
SEVEN SACRAMENTO ELECTRIC
VEHICLE ASSOCIATION. THANK YOU
ANYONE ELSE IN THE ROOM OKAY NOW
WILL TURN TO OUR TWO PRIMARY
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION IF YOU
WILL PLEASE COME UP TO THE TABLE
AND YOU INTERESTS ALSO WILL GET
TWO MINUTES.
GOOD AFTERNOON MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS MY NAME IS KURT
AUGUSTINE I AM WITH THE ALLIANCE
FOR AUTOMOTIVE INNOVATION WE ARE
THE TRADE ASSOCIATION FOR AUTO
MANUFACTURERS AS WELL AS MANY OF
THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE BATTERY
MANUFACTURERS THAT- ARE IN THOSE
ELECTRIC VEHICLES THAT WE'RE
PRODUCING- WE ARE. SADLY STILL
OPPOSE UNLESS AMENDED TO THIS
BILL BUT I WANT TO MAKE IT QUITE
CLEAR WE ARE NOT OPPOSED TO BI
DIRECTIONAL CHARGING AND
VEHICLES AS ALREADY NOTED
SEVERAL OF OUR MEMBER COMPANIES
HAVE BI DIRECTIONAL CHARGING.
CAPABILITIES AVAILABLE HOWEVER
WE ARE OPPOSED TO THIS SPECIFIC
MANDATE. AND THE AMENDMENTS AT
THE COMMITTEE OF TO TAKE AND
HAVE MADE OUR POSITION- EVEN
MORE PERKS PLUS IN OUR MINDS IS
NOW WE'RE LITERALLY EXEMPTING
EVERY OTHER TYPE OF VEHICLE WAS
AVAILABLE EXCEPT LIGHT DUTY
VEHICLES. I HEAD OF THE STUDY
AGAIN 95% OF THIS BILL WE
ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT WE NEED A
THOROUGH ANALYSIS OF THE GRID
THE BATTERY CHARGERS AND THE
DEVELOPMENT OF THOSE STANDARDS
BUT TO MANDATE THAT IT SHOULD
THAT THESE- VEHICLES HAVE THIS
CAPABILITY BEFORE WE EVEN KNOW
WHAT THE STANDARDS ARE IS THE
CART BEFORE THE HORSE. THERE'S
ALSO TWO ISSUES ABOUT COST AND
WE'VE WE'VE HEARD WITH ALL
RESPECT TO THIS SENATOR ABOUT
THE NISSAN LEAF AND YES THAT'S
TECHNICALLY TRUE. HOWEVER WITH
THE- ADVANCE CLEAN CAR TO
REGULATIONS THAT TAKE EFFECT IN
TWENTY SIX. OF THOSE ARE TO
PRIMARILY MILEAGE AND TIME BASED
REQUIREMENTS. BECAUSE OUR
COMPANIES WILL NOT KNOW IF THE
BI DIRECTIONAL VEHICLE APT
CAPABILITIES ARE GOING TO BE
USED THEY WILL HAVE TO INCREASE
EITHER INCREASE THE BATTERY
SIZE. OR INCREASED COSTS TO
COVER THE WARRANTIES BECAUSE THE
WARRANTY AGAIN IS FOR MILEAGE
AND WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE
CHARGING AND DISCHARGING- WE
ESTIMATE THAT'S GOING TO BE
SEVERAL THOUSAND DOLLARS AND
AGAIN. THOSE REQUIREMENTS DON'T
COME IN UNTIL TWENTY SIX SO IT
LOOKING TO THE ANY VEHICLES THAT
ARE BEING PRODUCED TODAY. THOSE
COSTS AREN'T AREN'T THERE
BECAUSE THOSE WARRANTY
REQUIREMENTS HAVE NOT YET KICKED
IN. SO WE ONCE AGAIN- AT OPPOSE
UNLESS AMENDED WE ARE SIMPLY
ASKING THAT JUST LIKE THE
AMENDMENTS THAT YOU TOOK EARLIER
ON THE MEDIUM AND HEAVY DUTY.
THAT LIGHT DUTY B. REMOVED
PULLED UP INTO THE STUDY. AND I
WOULD CONCLUDE WE'VE HEARD THE
PHRASE MARKET IN THE- SUPPORTERS
TESTIMONY A LOT AND THAT IS
EXACTLY WHAT WE THINK WE SHOULD
DO IT IF THIS IS TECHNOLOGY IS
AN EXCITING AND- OPTION AS WE
BELIEVE IT IS. THEN LET THE
MARKET CHOOSE AND LET HOMEOWNERS
AND- VEHICLE OWNERS DECIDE HOW
THEY WANT TO- SUPPLY THEIR
VEHICLES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
PERFECT. NEXT WITNESS. J.
MEMBERS OR FULL TIME SAYS POLICY
DIRECTOR FOR CAL CAL BASED
NONPROFIT THAT SERVES AS CLEAN
TRANSPORTATION TECHNOLOGY
CONSORTIUM I REPRESENTING THE
WHOLE ECOSYSTEM OF ZAB. IT'S
UNFORTUNATE THAT WE REMAIN IN
OPPOSITION RESPECTFULLY CENTER-
AS WERE SUPPORTIVE OF THE
CONCEPT BI DIRECTIONAL CHARGING
AND VEHICLE TO GRID OPERATIONS
BUT SB TWO THIRTY THREE.
CONTINUES TO ASSUME. THAT THE
ANSWER IS MANDATING ELECTRIC
VEHICLES TO BE BIDIRECTIONAL
CAPABLE WITHOUT STUDYING WHAT
THE BEST CASE AND YOU STRATEGIES
ARE. NO GUARDRAILS NEED TO BE
PUT IN PLACE IN MAY OF TWENTY
TWENTY TO THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST
NATIONAL LABORATORY PRODUCED
REPORT FOR THE UNITED STATES
DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY. TITLED
ECONOMIC ANALYSIS OF VEHICLE TO
GRID TECHNOLOGY FOR FLEETS. IN
INTRODUCTION THE AUTHORS WRITE
ONE VD G. CHALLENGE IS THAT
SUPPLEMENTAL VEHICLE TO BATTERY
USAGE BEYOND ITS PRIMARY DRIVING
PURPOSE. IMPOSES ADDITIONAL
CYCLING THAT'S REDUCING BATTERY
LIFE GIVEN THE HIGH PRICE OF
VEHICLE REPLACEMENT AND LACK OF
VIABLE BATTERY REPLACEMENT.
OPTIONS REDUCE POTENTIAL COSTS
COULD BE SUBSTANTIAL AND THAT
THE CONCERN IS THAT SOME MAJOR
EVEY MANUFACTURERS. TO AVOID A
BATTERY'S WARRANTY OF THE OWNER
ENGAGES IN FIJI. THESE ARE
EXAMPLES OF CAL STAR HAS
MAINTAINED THE NEED FOR SB TWO
THIRTY THREE TO BE AMENDED TO
KEEP THE STUDY PROVISIONS WHILE
ELIMINATED THE MANDATE. THAT MAY
BE PREMATURE FOR THE MARKET.
ZERO MISSION POLICY RIGHT NOW
IT'S CONSTANTLY CHANGING. AS WE
HAVE SEEN WITH THE RECENT
ANNOUNCEMENTS OF MAJOR AUTO
MANUFACTURERS TODAY AND S. YES
CHARGING STANDARD ALSO THE TEST
THE STANDARD. INTO THEIR PLANS
THE SPEED AT WHICH THAT POLICY.
IS SHIFTING IS WHY CAL STAR HAS
ASKED. FOR A HOLD ON THE MANDATE
AND THE STUDY TO MOVE FORWARD IN
A VERY THOUGHTFUL AND LYFT
MANNER. IN RESPECTFULLY ASKING
FOR YOUR NO VOTE. THANK YOU I'M
GONNA TAKE A BRIEF PAUSE SO THAT
WE CAN ESTABLISH A QUORUM COULD
WE HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE.
FRIEDMAN YOUR FRIEDMAN HERE.
FONG FONG HERE ALVAREZ PRESENT.
OVER HIS PRESENCE BERMAN. BERMAN
HERE CARILLO CARILLO HERE DAVIES
GIPSON. ART ART HERE JACKSON
HERE JACKSON HERE KALRA WIN. WIN
HERE SANCHO'S WALLACE. WARD
WICKS. WE HAVE WAIT WE HAVE A
QUORUM- SO ANYONE ELSE IN THE
ROOM WHO WISHES TO TESTIFY IN
OPPOSITION TO THE BILL PLEASE
COME UP. MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS
KRISH MOTOR THE CALIFORNIA
TRUCKING ASSOCIATION SWANA THANK
THE AUTHOR- HER STAFF AND
COMMITTEE STAFF MEETING WITH US
ON THE BILL. I WITH THE PROPOSED
AMENDMENTS WILL BE REMOVING
OPPOSITION THANK YOU. YOU YEAH
JULIE MOUNT ASK ABOUT BEHALF OF
THE CALIFORNIA ELECTRIC
TRANSPORTATION COALITION
RESPECTFULLY OPPOSE UNLESS
AMENDED. EMILY WITH MERCEDES
BENZ AND ALSO RESPECTFULLY
OPPOSING UNLESS AMENDED.
SELECTING WITH THE SILICON
VALLEY LEADERSHIP GROUP ALSO IN
THE PROPOSAL AS AMENDED THANK
YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON WITH THE
KIDS ON A SHOT YODER ENTRY CELLS
ARE LAYING HERE ON BEHALF OF
TESLA AND WE ARE IN A TWEENER
POSITION WE ARE CONCERNED THAT
THE BI DIRECTIONAL CHARGING
MANDATE IS PREMATURE. AND THAT
THE BILL SHOULD BE FOCUSED ON
FIRST OKAY YOU GET. A MMHM. OF
ANYBODY ELSE IN THE ROOM WISHING
TO TESTIFY- THANK YOU AND AGAIN
TO SEE YOUR NAME IN YOUR
ORGANIZATION AND WHAT YOUR
POSITION IS- CAN WE PLEASE GO TO
THE PHONE LINES NOW FOR OUR-
TESTIMONY IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION OF S. B. TWO THIRTY
THREE OPERATOR IF YOU COULD
PLEASE OPEN UP THE PHONE LINES.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO S. B.
TWO THIRTY THREE PLEASE PRESS
ONE ZERO. FIRSTLY WE WILL HEAR
FROM LINE EIGHTY PLEASE GO AHEAD
. GOOD AFTERNOON SHARING
THEMSELVES ON BEHALF OF THE CITY
OF SANTA ROSA AND SUPPORT THANK
YOU. LINE. SIXTY NINE. HI STEVEN
KING WITH A PARENT. FOR A LINE
TWENTY FOUR. JANET TALKED FOR
CLIMATE ACTION CALIFORNIA IS THE
COURT. BLIND EIGHTY FIVE. GOOD
AFTERNOON JIM LINDBERG ON BEHALF
OF THE FRIENDS COMMITTEE ON
LEGISLATION TO CALIFORNIA IN
SUPPORT. A LINE TWELVE. KATHY
SHAFFER ON BEHALF OF THE LOS
ANGELES AND SAN FERNANDO VALLEY
CHAPTERS OF CLIMATE REALITY IN
SUPPORT THANK YOU. BLIND. NINETY
SEVEN. EVEN LOCAL LONG LONG
REPRESENTING HIM CRACK COCAINE
COMMITTEE. BOB OPTION CALLED
MARKS THE COR THANK YOU. LINE A
- JOHN .ORG THE CLEANERS FOR
KIDS THAT ARE IN STRONG SUPPORT
. LINE. NINETY UNDER ARTICLE A
MAN FROM GREEN LIKE YOU KNOW AND
SUPPORT. LINE. FIFTY SIX. NINE
FIFTY SIX PLEASE GO AHEAD. THANK
YOU THERE REALLY DAY CHAU
PRESIDENT ELECTRIC VEHICLE
ASSOCIATION CENTRAL COAST OR
VEHICLES ARE ONLY USED ABOUT 10%
OF THE TIME AND A 15% USAGE IN
BI DIRECTIONAL WITH THE DISNEY
MEN WITHOUT. ABOUT LIFE. AND THE
O. LINE. THIRTEEN ELAINE LEE
WITH THE CLIMATE REALITY PROJECT
SILICON VALLEY CHAPTER IN
SUPPORT THANK YOU. NINE FIFTEEN.
DID THE SAME WITH MOVE LA IN
SUPPORT. NINE FIFTY FIVE. ROBERT
PERRY REPRESENTING THE WORLD
BUSINESS ACADEMY IN SUPPORT
THANK YOU. A LINE. EIGHT DR
CYNTHIA MAHONEY REPORT THIS
COMMONSENSE BILL THANK YOU. ONE
FIFTY SEVEN. AT LEAST CALL PLAN
WITH THE GLENDALE ENVIRONMENTAL
COALITION IN SUPPORT. LINE.
THIRTY TWO. TO HER MOTHER TO THE
ACTIVE PACKAGING YOUR VALLEY IN
SUPPORT. LINE TWENTY SEVEN. HI
THIS IS MARK MARVIN NORMAN
CENTER RETURNING ACTION
APARTMENT JUST ESSENTIAL SUPPORT
. LINE. TWENTY SIX. THIS IS
GONNA BE OKAY WITH THE
CALIFORNIA LINE FOR COMMUNITY IN
SUPPORT. THE LINE. EIGHTY ONE.
THE NOT SUPPORT SIDE. CALIFORNIA
NURSES FOR ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH
AND JUSTICE AND CLEAN EARTH FOR
KIDS IN SUPPORT. ONE SEVENTY
NINE. RIGHT PUBLIC POLICY INTERN
WITH CLEANER FOR KIDS STRONG
SUPPORT. NINE SEVENTY FIVE. MARK
JACOBSON CALIFORNIA REFORM
JUDAISM SOCIAL ACTION COMMITTEE
STRONGLY SUPPORT AB TWO THREE
THREE. A LINE TWENTY THREE.
RIGHT WHY AND SHAUN MOTHERS HAVE
SILICON VALLEY IN. FOR A LINE OF
FORTY EIGHT. ARIEL LOPEZ OF THE
LOS ANGELES BUSINESS COUNCIL AND
SUPPORT THANK YOU. IN THAT LINE
ONE HUNDRED ELEVEN. SH CAL WE'D
REPRESENTING BOTH THE DEMOCRATS
ACROSS MORE AND GROWTH.
EXPANDABILITY IN SUPPORT. AND
MADAM CHAIR THERE ARE NO FURTHER
COMMENTS AT THIS TIME. THANK
YOU- WILL TAKE IT TO THE
COMMITTEE NOW FOR QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS. THE COMMITTEE MEMBER.
YES MISTER ALVAREZ. THANK YOU
MADAM CHAIR THANK YOU TO THE
AUTHOR AND FOR THE- TESTIMONY
FROM ALL- I DON'T THINK THE
AUTHOR TAKING TIME WITH ME
DURING A BUSY TIME TO SPEND SOME
TIME WITH ME TRYING TO REALLY
COMPREHEND THE INTENT THANK YOU.
SENATOR I STILL M. CURIOUS AS
TO. THE TWO THINGS THAT THE BILL
IS LOOKING TO ACCOMPLISH ONE IS
THE STUDY WHICH- FULLY FULLY IN
SUPPORT AND ONE IT AND GIVING IT
SHOULD SAY IS- I THINK IT'S
REALLY FASCINATING THAT YOU'RE
BRINGING THIS FORWARD I THINK
IT'S- AN INCREDIBLE POTENTIAL-
FOR A FOR ENTERED AT FOR AN
ENERGY SOURCE- WHAT I'M WHAT I'M
- WONDERING ABOUT IS.
I WILL I AM WORKING WITH
STAKEHOLDERS NOW IN THE
COMMITTEE THAT ASKED FOR THAT
AMENDMENT WHICH WAS- AN
AMENDMENT FROM A COMMITTEE TO
CLARIFY THAT THAT STUDIES
PURPOSE AND FOCUS IS FOR THOSE
AGENCIES TO STUDY THE BENEFITS
TO THE GRID. SO FOR EXAMPLE IN
WHEN WE ARE IF WE PREFERRED THE
OPPOSITION'S REFERENCE TO A
STUDY THAT WAS- VEHICLE THAT
FLEET VEHICLE TO GRID- STUDY IN
FLEET VEHICLE THE IAP AB I'M
ACTUALLY FAMILIAR WITH THAT
STUDY THEY WERE LOOKING AT THE
USE OF FLEET VEHICLES. THAT
WOULD BE LIKE DURING A TIME
EITHER DAY TIMER WHENEVER IN A-
POWERING IT AFFECTED BUILDING SO
THAT IN EFFECT THE FLEET ITSELF
WOULD BE BEING UTILIZED TO
PROVIDE NOT ONLY GRID CAPACITY
BUT THOSE BUILDINGS AND IT WOULD
BE QUITE FREQUENT SO IN OTHER
WORDS IT WOULD BE RELIED ON. A
YOU KNOW ALMOST MAYBE ON A DAILY
BASIS BECAUSE OF THAT COME AT
THE COST OF COMMERCIAL LECTORES
DE RATES AND THIS BEING ONE OF
THESE BENEFITS. NOW IF YOU USE
YOUR A VEHICLE BATTERY. ON A
DAILY BASIS FOR POWERING FIVE
POWERING ANYTHING BESIDES THE
CAR ESPECIALLY FOR LONG PERIODS
OF TIME YES THERE CAN BE SOME
DEGRADING BUT IF WE TAKE FOR
EXAMPLE. THE FORD ONE FIFTY
WHICH NOW THE F. ONE FIFTY TRUCK
THEIR BATTERY WARRANTY AND
REMEMBER THEY HAVE BI
DIRECTIONAL CAPABILITY AND THEY
ADVERTISE IT STATES THEY LET YOU
KNOW THIS IS ONE OF THE FEATURES
TO ATTRACT YOU TO BUY IT. THEY
HAVE A EIGHT YEAR BATTERY
WARRANTY OR A HUNDRED THOUSAND
MILES SO THEY DO NOT I PUT A CAP
YACHT ON THAT WARRANTY REGARDING
THE USE OF IT FOR THE BRIDE
DIRECTIONAL- PURPOSE NOW LET ME
GO BACK TO. THE PURPOSE OF THE
STUDY FOR MY POINT OF VIEW IT
IS. TO LOOK AT IF FOR EXAMPLE.
EVERY EVEY ON THE ROAD WERE TO
BE THEN. OF PUTTING THEIR POWER
BACK INTO THE GRID. WHICH WHICH
HAS BEEN THEORETICALLY STUDIED
BUT NOT STUDIED IN TERMS THE
PRACTICALITY OF OUR GREAT IN
SUCH. THAT WHAT THAT WHAT THAT
BENEFIT MAY OR MAY NOT BE WHAT
KIND OF- BELTS AND SUSPENDERS
MIGHT NEED TO BE ON IT OR IF
THERE IS A GREAT BENEFIT WHAT
OTHER INCENTIVES MIGHT. ARE
AGENCIES OFFER FOR EXAMPLE EV'S
OWNERS THAT HAVE THAT CAPABILITY
SO FOR EXAMPLE. I THINK SOMEBODY
REFERENCED- ARE THE VERY HIGH
HEAT DAYS SO LAST SEPTEMBER WHEN
WE HAD THOSE REALLY HIGH HEAT
DAYS. WE AND WE HAD THE LARGEST
DEMAND ON OUR ELECTRICAL GRID
THAT WE HAVE EVER HAD IN THE
HISTORY OF STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
WE WERE ABLE TO AVOID BLACKOUTS
BECAUSE THE STATE USED ITS
DEMAND MANAGEMENT WHICH IS IT
PAYS IN AFFECT COMMERCIAL.
COMMERCIAL BUILDING OWNERS AND
ALSO YOU KNOW EACH OF US WHO ARE
IN CERTAIN PROGRAMS TO BASICALLY
STOP USING ELECTRICITY TURN IT
OFF. WELL YOU CAN IMAGINE THAT
IN THAT KIND OF SITUATION IF YOU
HAD AN E. V. THAT COULD POWER
YOUR HOUSE YOU COULD.
POTENTIALLY USE THE E. V. TO
POWER THE HOUSE. AND INSTEAD OF
HAVING TO COMPLETELY GO OFF THE
ELECTRICITY WHICH OF COURSE
WOULD HELP TO AVOID. THAT DEMAND
ON THE GRID SO IT'S THAT KIND OF
THING THAT WE WANT TO STUDY
BECAUSE IF IT IS SOMETHING THAT
THE GRID ITSELF SHOULD BE
UTILIZING MORE. THEN THERE COULD
BE INCENTIVES DESIGNED FOR THAT
PURPOSE- MY- MY PURPOSE IN THIS
BILL IS TO NOT PUT ANY OF OUR
CONSUMERS AT A DISADVANTAGE.
BECAUSE WE'RE SEEING A TREND NOW
WHERE THE HIGH END VEHICLES ARE
GOING IN THIS DIRECTION EVEN
THOUGH AS I OPENED THE MOST
AFFORDABLE EVEY THE NISSAN LEAF
HAS ALWAYS HAD THIS CAPABILITY.
BUT WE DON'T WANT TO SEE A
SITUATION WHERE MANUFACTURE
START OPTING ONLY TO PUT IT IN
THE HIGHEST AND VEHICLES AND
THUS IN ORDER TO HAVE THAT.
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE
PAYING A WHOLE LOT MORE THAT YOU
KNOW IT'S LIKE WHEN THESE EXTRA
FEATURES VERSES THAT I SHOULD BE
ABLE TO UTILIZE THIS. IF I IN NO
MATTER WHAT DVI HALF SO THAT'S
MY PURPOSE IN THE- IF WE GO TO
FOR EXAMPLE- WHY I'M WILLING TO.
TO REMOVE THE MANDATE ON. THE
LARGE THE HEAVY DUTY OR BUSES OR
THAT KIND OF THING. FOR EXAMPLE.
THE SCHOOL BUS D. E. V. SCHOOL
BUS MANUFACTURERS BASED IN
CALIFORNIA. THEY'RE ALREADY
PRODUCING ALL THEIR SCHOOL BUSES
HAVE BI DIRECTIONAL SO THEY'RE
ALREADY DOING IT. AND I WOULD
ANTICIPATE THAT COMPANIES LIKE
UPS AND AMAZON AS THEY MOVE
FORWARD AND START TO DECIDE TO
EXPAND THE NUMBER OF EV'S IN
THEIR FLEETS THEY WILL START
DEMANDING MAKE THAT CAPABILITY
SO THAT THEY CAN POWER
WAREHOUSES AND SUCH. BUT THEY
HAVE A BIG ENOUGH MARKET SHARE
THAT THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO
THAT YOU AND I JUST AS REGULAR
CONSUMERS HAVE A HARDER TIME TO
DO THAT WHICH IS WHY. I THINK
THIS MANDATE IS SO IMPORTANT.
AND ARE. I HOPE I ANSWERED THE
QUESTION. WELL LET ME SEE WE CAN
CLARIFY BECAUSE I THINK I HEAR
YOU SAYING YOU BELIEVE THE STUDY
IS GOING TO GO IN A DIFFERENT
DIRECTION THE BILL THE LANGUAGE
BEFORE US TALKS ABOUT STUDYING.
THE COST WHICH I ASSUME WOULD
MEAN THE COST OF A THE
MANUFACTURE YES BECAUSE IT'S NOT
SPECIFIED NOTS WOMEN TO DO SOME
OF THE CLARIFICATION AND THAT
LANGUAGE OF THE STUDY BECAUSE
IT'S NOT REALLY CLEAR IN THE
LANGUAGE. SO YOU WILL YOU DON'T
EXPECT THE STUDY THAN TO LOOK AT
THE COST WELL OVER THE EXACT
COST BUT I THINK WOULD BE MORE
THE COST TO- IF THE IF THE STATE
WANTED TO UTILIZE THIS FEATURE.
IN A GREATER CAPACITY FOR THE
GRID. SO JUST TO BE REALLY CLEAR
NOT THE COST OF THE MANUFACTURE
TO ADD THIS TECHNOLOGY. THAT
WOULD NOT BE PART OF THE STUDY.
IN AGAIN THIS IS WE HAVE NOT
WORKED OUT THE AMENDMENTS YET OR
THE AMENDMENT- IT'S- BECAUSE WE
ALREADY KNOW THAT THERE ARE
MANUFACTURERS WHO HAVE THIS
CAPABILITY. AND WE ALREADY KNOW
THAT THE MOST AFFORDABLE EVEY. I
DON'T THINK THAT THAT PARTICULAR
ISSUE IS ESSENTIAL. I'M THOSE
CERTAINLY THAT IS STILL UNDER
DISCUSSION. I WOULD JUST SAY
THAT ACT I DO THINK THAT'S
ESSENTIAL- SOMEONE WHO
REPRESENTS- DISADVANTAGED
COMMUNITIES WHERE WE HAVE SEEN
THAT THESE ELECTRIC VEHICLES ARE
NOT MAKING THEIR WAY. INTO THESE
COMMUNITIES. ADDITIONAL COST OF
THESE VEHICLES WOULD MEAN
POTENTIAL ADDITIONAL HURDLES
THESE COMMUNITIES THAT NEED TO
SEE. MORE OF THESE VEHICLES AND-
AND I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT SO
I DO APPRECIATE THAT BUT I THINK
THAT I KNOW I DON'T MEAN- THE
MANUFACTURERS OF COURSE THEY'RE
ENTITLED TO THEIR OPPOSITION IN
THEIR- OPINION. HOWEVER AS I'VE
INDICATED THE MOST AFFORDABLE
EVEY HAS ALWAYS HAD BI
DIRECTIONAL CAPABILITY. AND SO
THE- WHILE THAT CANNOT BE
ASSUMED THAT OF COURSE IT WILL
BE CHEAPER FOR EVERY WE ARE
SEEING THIS TREND RIGHT NOW. IN
WHAT ANYWAY- MY INTENTION IS SO
THAT WE ARE NOT IN A SITUATION
WHERE- LOWER INCOME RESIDENTS
ARE AT A DISADVANTAGE AND CAN'T
GET THE BI DIRECTIONAL
CAPABILITY BECAUSE IT IS ONLY
THEN PROMOTED OR FEATURED IN THE
HIGHER END VEHICLE. YEAH AND
MAKE DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THAT
THAT INTENT- BUT BEING SOMEONE
WHO'S NOT ENTIRELY YOU KNOW
FULLY KNOWLEDGEABLE OF THIS BUT
INTERESTED CERTAINLY BY WHAT
YOU'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. IN
OUR OWN STAFF ANALYSIS- ONE OF
THE MAIN COMMENTS AT THE VERY
BEGINNING IS THAT- THIS THESE
REQUIREMENTS WILL NEED TO
INSTALL LARGER BATTERIES
BATTERIES ARE THE MOST EXPENSIVE
COMPONENT ELECTRIC VEHICLE SO
THAT'S CAN DANCE IS VERY SO FAR
HAVE NOT SHOWN THAT THE
BATTERIES HAVE TO BE LARGER FOR
THIS CAPABILITY THEY DO NOT.
OKAY I'M FULLY SUPPORTIVE
CERTAINLY OF THE SECTION-
TOWARDS THE END ON THE MANDATE
FOR BUSES GIVEN THAT AS YOU
STATED IN AS THE TESTIMONY
STATED. THAT'S CERTAINLY
SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN PROVEN-
AND SUCCESSFUL AND ALL
MANUFACTURERS AS YOU SAID IN
YOUR- IN YOUR TESTIMONY IN
CALIFORNIA ALREADY DO THAT SO I
THINK THAT'S VERY APPROPRIATE- I
THINK. I'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE
THAT WE HAVE MORE INFORMATION IS
THERE A REASON WHY THE DATE
CHANGE FROM TWENTY TWENTY SEVEN
TO TWENTY THIRTY WAS OUT FROM
FEEDBACK ON. YOU KNOW
MANUFACTURERS NEED TO ADJUST
NEXT YOU WANT TO ASK THEM AS
WELL THEY NEED TO ADJUST TO SOME
OF THESE REQUIREMENTS. WITH SOME
TIME I'M ASSUMING MAYBE THAT'S
WHY YES CHANGE THE DATE BUT I'M
NOT SURE YES TO GIVE THAT TIME.
BUT ALSO- GIVEN THE PROJECTION
ON HOW MANY MORE CONSUMERS WILL
BE PURCHASING EV'S BY THEN.
BECAUSE OF. THE DIFFERENT- A YOU
KNOW THE STATE HAS MANY POLICIES
THAT ARE BOTH PROMOTING AND WILL
IF ULTIMATELY BE MANDATING EV'S
AND ALSO. TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF
BOTH THE FEDERAL AND THE STATE
REBATES BEFORE THERE'D NO LONGER
EXIST. THAT YOU WOULD HAVE- YOU
WOULD HAVE VEHICLES WITH THAT
CAPABILITY WHERE YOU WOULD STILL
GET THOSE REBATES BUT YES IT WAS
TO- TO RECOGNIZE THAT IT IS
GOING TO TAKE MANUFACTURERS WHO
DON'T NOW DO THIS AT. A PERIOD
OF TIME. OKAY WELL APPRECIATE
AGAIN YOU TAKING TIME OBVIOUSLY-
NEAREST TO THE TO THE COMMITTEE
AND JUST LEARNING ABOUT THIS
ISSUE- CONTINUE TO BE CONCERNED
ABOUT THIS REPORT NOT
IDENTIFYING THOSE THOSE COSTS
AND THAT'S THE PART THAT GIVES
ME- A LOT OF PAUSE HERE TODAY
SO. MAYBE WE'LL HEAR MORE FROM
OTHERS THANK YOU. THANK YOU VICE
CHAIR FONG. I THANK YOU MADAM
CHAIR- I KNOW WE'RE HAVING THE
KIND OF AN INTENSE DEBATE- ON A
VERY COMPLICATED- ISSUE- IN A
VERY LIMITED TIME CONSTRAINT BUT
I KNOW THAT THAT TIME RIGHT NOW
TO THE OPPOSITION'S I DIDN'T I
WANT SINCE THIS. BILL HOW IT IS
A REQUIREMENT- THE CAR
MANUFACTURES I'D I DID WANT TO
ASK SPECIFICALLY BACKING. GIVE A
LITTLE DEEPER ABOUT WHAT THIS.
MANDATE WOULD MEAN AT THIS VERY
MOMENT ON ON ON ON CARS AND THE
DIFFERENT CAR MODELS ARE BEING
MENTIONED SPECIFIC UNIQUE ONES
BUT HOW HOW WOULD THIS AFFECT
THE BROADER INDUSTRY. IF THE
MEASURE BY MASS YES OCCURRED
AUGUSTINE WITH THE LINES FOR
AUTOMOTIVE INNOVATION- OUR
ESTIMATES ARE THAT THAT. THE-
CAPABILITY- OF THE ACTUAL DEVICE
IS NOT ALL THAT EXPENSIVE IT'S A
FEW HUNDRED DOLLARS BUT THE
CHALLENGE WILL BE. EITHER THE
INCREASED BATTERY SIZE FOR THE
COST TO COVER THE- WARRANTY
ISSUES THAT CAN BE ANYWHERE TO
THREE TO FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS
BUT THAT ALSO. IS ONLY THE TIP
OF THE ICEBERG BECAUSE THE
CURRENT ESTIMATES ON THE BI
DIRECTIONAL CHARGER THAT WOULD
HAVE TO BE PUT IN ONE'S HOUSE
COULD BE ANYWHERE FROM TWELVE TO
FIFTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS. IN
ADDITION THERE'S PANEL RE WORK
EXCEPT FOR SO THIS IS. AN
EXPENSIVE PROPOSITION AND WE'RE
WHEN WE'RE ON THE CUSP OF TRYING
TO GET AS MANY ELECTRIC VEHICLES
ON THE ROAD AS POSSIBLE. BETWEEN
THE NEW STANDARDS TO STARTED
TWENTY SIX IN LAST YEAR'S SALES
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DOUBLE
THE NUMBER OF VV SALES SERVICE.
AND TO INCREASE THE COST. OF
EVERY VEHICLE WHETHER A CONSUMER
CHOOSES TO USE IT OR NOT AND I
THINK THAT'S PARTICULARLY
CONCERNING. TO THE- TO FOLKS WHO
LIVE IN MULTI FAMILY DWELLINGS
IF YOUR LANDLORD CHOOSES NOT TO
PUT A FIFTEEN THOUSAND DOLLAR BI
DIRECTIONAL CHARGER AND- YOU'VE
SPENT SEVERAL THOUSAND DOLLARS
ON A CAPABILITY IT YOU YOU WILL
NOT BE ABLE TO USE. AND THAT'S
WHY WE BELIEVE LET THE MARKET
DECIDE THIS AGAIN. WE ARE
COMPLETELY SUPPORT OF A BI
DIRECTIONAL CHARGING. BUT IT'S
SHOULDN'T BE REQUIRED FOR EVERY
CAR. EVERYBODY LET THE CONSUMER
CHOOSE. THANK YOU. BUT THE
CELEBRITY THE AYE AYE THINK- NOT
TO I WANT TO BE FROM A GUY FROM
DIEGO I SERVICE EVERYWHERE- WE
CERTAINLY HAVE OUR R. COSTA
ALLERGIST. I THINK YOU'RE THE
COLLEAGUES IN NEXT YEAR'S BEEN
TRYING TO GET INFRASTRUCTURE
DATA NEEDS IMPROVED I THINK
THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I THINK. THE
THRUST OF THE CONCERN IS IF YOU
DO IF YOU DO THE MANDATE THEN
AND YOU DON'T HAVE THE
INFRASTRUCTURE- THERE SEEMS TO
BE A LITTLE BIT OF A GAP SO-
BUT- IT WANTED TO GIVE THE OF
THE AUTHOR CHANCER IS BOND IF-
IF I'VE I'VE I'M- IF I'M NOT
SEEING IT. THE CORRECTLY. I'M I
WANTED. TO CLARIFY THAT- THE
REQUESTED. THIS REFERENCE OF A
REQUIREMENT OF A FIFTEEN
THOUSAND DOLLAR THING AT YOUR
HOUSE. IS INACCURATE. I'M YOU
CAN GO TO THE HARDWARE STORE
NOW. AND BY A IN A SIMPLE
INVERTER IT'S- IT DEPENDS ON
WHICH HARDWARE STORE YOU GO DO
IT CAN BE- YOU KNOW
APPROXIMATELY EIGHTY DOLLARS.
WHICH WOULD ALLOW YOU TO- TO
UTILIZE YOUR BI DIRECTIONAL
VEHICLE TO CHARGE YOUR HOUSE.
AND IN FACT- IF I COULD TURN MY
WITNESS WHO DID THIS FOR HER
VERY OWN HOUSE. I AM ON MY THIRD
NISSAN LEAF WE'VE NEVER HAD HAVE
BATTERIES THAT ARE BIGGER. TO
MAKE IT BI DIRECTIONAL THEY'VE
BEEN BI DIRECTIONAL. BUT AND I
WANT TO BE REALLY CLEAR THAT. IN
FACT WE AT MY HOUSEHOLDER
WAITING NOW TO BUY. A NEW A BI
DIRECTIONAL CHARGERS OF JUST TO
BE CLEAR THIS BILL IS NOT ABOUT
THE CHARGERS THIS BILLS ONLY
SAYING THE CAR SHOULD HAVE THE
EEVEE SHOULD HAVE THE CAPABILITY
TO BE BIDIRECTIONAL WE'RE NOT
TELLING EVERY PERSON WHO HAS
THAT THAT THEY HAVE TO DO THAT.
WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS THAT
EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE THE OPTION
TO HAVE THAT IT'S SO SIMPLE AND
SO INEXPENSIVE. AND SECONDLY-
THE ACTUAL CHARGERS ARE IN THE
RANGE TODAY OF THREE TO FOUR
THOUSAND DOLLARS VERY EXPENSIVE
FOR ME I CAN TELL YOU THAT I
WANT TO BE AN EARLY ADOPTER. BUT
JUST LIKE WITH SOLAR TEN YEARS
AGO EVEN WITH THE EV'S WAY BACK
WHEN- WINDOW THAT BY INVESTING
IN A BIG SCALE THAT THAT WILL
BRING THE COST DOWN
SIGNIFICANTLY WE EXPECT THE
BIDIRECTIONAL CHARGERS WILL BE
MUCH CHEAPER OVER THE NEXT FEW
YEARS. CALIFORNIA EXPECTS OF
EIGHT MILLION EV'S BY TWENTY
THIRTY AND WE EXPECT THAT IT
WILL BE MUCH LESS EXPENSIVE TO
DO WHAT I'M GOING TO DO THIS
YEAR BY TWENTY THIRTY. A CERTAIN
APPRECIATE THAT- I THINK. MAYBE
I'M THAT MAYBE ONE LAST QUESTION
I MEAN EVERYONE'S FOCUSING ON
THE NISSAN LEAF. HOW MANY.
MODELS CURRENTLY ARE ON THE
MARKET NOW HAVE THIS CAPABILITY
D. D. IS THERE A- THAT'S ABOUT
ALL YOU TO EVERY SINGLE MODEL
BUT- AT THE OF A DO YOU HAVE
LIKE AS A KIND OF A RANGER AGAIN
A GUESSTIMATE. I THINK IT'S
EIGHT OR NINE ROUGHLY EIGHT OR
NINE YEAH. THE CONVERSATION
AROUND NISSAN LEAF IS AN
INTERESTING ONE OBVIOUSLY IT WAS
ONE OF THE EARLY EV'S. TWO
THOUSAND THIRTEEN I BELIEVE IS
GOING TO START COMING UP IN
CALIFORNIA THE NISSAN LEAF
COMPRISES LESS THAN 5% OF OUR
EVEY POPULATION. SO WE'LL TALK
ABOUT EIGHT OR NINE MODELS AND
WE'RE BASING POLICY ON THE
NISSAN LEAF. REALLY GETS TO A
DANGEROUS PRECEDENT. GIVEN THAT
THE NISSAN LEAF'S RANGE OR THE
MAJORITY OF ITS LIFETIME HAS
BEEN UNDER TWO HUNDRED. THE-
TALK ABOUT BATTERY USAGES. WE
ARE ALSO GOING INTO THIS ADVANCE
CLEAN CARS TO. A DYNAMIC OF
POLICY REGULATIONS ON THE
MANUFACTURERS. AND THEN WHEN WE
DO TALK ABOUT THE ACTUAL CHARGES
YES NOT EVERYONE IS GOING TO
BUY. AN EXPENSIVE BI DIRECTIONAL
CHARGER BUT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE
GOING TO BE THAT MOST PEOPLE USE
A LEVEL ONE CHARGERS SO EVEN IF
THEY WANTED TO. HAVE THIS
CAPABILITY THEY ARE GOING TO
HAVE THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS OF
COSTS INCURRED UPON THEM. TO
UTILIZE IT AND EVEN IF WE'RE NOT
TALKING ABOUT MANDATING THE
CHARGERS. THEN UNFORTUNATELY WE
ARE MANDATED THAT COST INCREASE
ON THE MANUFACTURER'S SITE. FOR
THE CONSUMER. ALSO NOT KNOWING
WHERE THE GREATEST. THE P.
JEANNIE IN YOUR TERRITORY IN
BAKERSFIELD IS GOING THROUGH
SOME PILOT PROJECTS AND I THINK
THAT'S WHY. SEVERAL OF THOSE IN
OPPOSITION. ARE ASKING JUST FOR
SOME TIME WE WANT TO MAKE SURE
THAT THOSE. ABILITIES TO STUDY
WHAT UTILITIES ARE DOING WHAT
MANUFACTURERS COST INCREASES
WOULD BE. WHERE THE SUPPLY CHAIN
IS GOING TO BE IN CALIFORNIA
FOR. ANY OF THE BATTERIES THAT
WOULD NEED TO BE REPLACED ALL OF
THOSE THINGS DO PLAY A LARGE
PART IN THIS POLICY. AND AS
WE'VE ALL SAID WE'RE SUPPORTIVE
OF IT BEING ON THE MENU OF
OPTIONS. TO ADDRESS CALIFORNIA'S
ENERGY FUTURE. BUT I THINK WE
JUST NEED TO HAVE THAT
STAKEHOLDER GROUP MEET BEFORE
COMING TO THIS. KIND OF ANSWER
OF MANDATING ALL MANUFACTURERS
FOR LIGHT DUTY IN SCHOOL BUT-
HER SCHOOL BUS BLOOD I DON'T
HAVE A SUMMIT THANK YOU.
INFORMATION I THINK THIS THE
ROBUST CONVERSE I THINK SHOWS
THAT WE PROBABLY DIDN'T. NEED TO
FLESH THIS OUT LITTLE MORE. SO I
CALLED SANTA THAT THEY STUDY
MADE MEAN MANY TO BE EX A LITTLE
IF I. MAY YES HE- YES I USED
NISSAN LEAF WAS THAT THE ONLY I
USED TO JUST TO GIVE YOU THE
EXAMPLE OF THE MOST AFFORDABLE
ON THE MARKET. AS WAS ALREADY
REFERENCE TESLA IS THE NUMBER
ONE SELLING YOU BE. IN
CALIFORNIA IT WILL BE ALL BI
DIRECTIONAL BY TWENTY TWENTY
FIVE IN MANY RDR. SO AND FORD
THE FORD ONE F. ONE FIFTY TRUCK
AS I MENTIONED ALSO WHICH IS
MORE OF A HIGH END BUT STILL
IT'S AGGRESSIVELY ADVERTISING
THAT. SO THERE YOU KNOW THAT I
USE CERTAIN EXAMPLES WAS NOT TO
SAY THAT THIS IS THE ONLY OR THE
SHOULD BE. BY NO MEANS BUT
RATHER TO GIVE- TO. TO ALLOW US
TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE WHOLE
RANGE OF VEHICLES ARE AVAILABLE
WITH THIS CAPACITY AND THEN
CELEBRITY THAT I THINK THAT'S
WHY I ASKED. THE IMPACT TO THE
BROAD INDUSTRY JUST TRYING TO
UNDERSTAND. I THINK THE IMPACT
ME A BROADLY AND INTO TO
CONSUMERS- BUT CERTAINLY
APPRECIATE THAT THE INFORMATION.
THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION SO
I UNDERSTAND- FORD F. THE FORD
TRUCK. BEING BI DIRECTIONAL
BECAUSE OF THEIR ADVERTISING THE
CAPACITY FOR PEOPLE. WHO ARE
BUYING A PICKUP TRUCK MAYBE FOR
WORK TO BE ABLE TO RUN TOOLS RUN
ELECTRIC TOOLS EITHER TRUCK OR
TO RUN A SMALL GENERATOR. WHICH
MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO ME. AND
IT MAKES A SENSE TO ME ALSO TO
HAVE THE CAPACITY IN CASE OF
EMERGENCIES IF YOU LIVE IN AN
AREA WHERE YOU HAVE A LOT OF
POWER OUTAGES. AND YOU WANT THE
ABILITY TO RUN YOURSELF YOU
KNOW- OFF YOUR VEHICLE. BUT I'M
CURIOUS AS TO THE WITNESS OF WHY
YOU PUT ONE IN YOUR HOME IS IT
THAT BECAUSE YOU'RE YOU'RE
HAVING TO BUY THE POWER ANYWAYS
YOU'RE TAKING THE POWER OUT. THE
GREETING YOU'RE PAYING A CERTAIN
PRICE. YOU'RE NOT GETTING PAID
ANY PREMIUM YOU'RE NOT MAKING
MONEY WHEN YOU'RE POWERING IT
OFF OF YOUR VEHICLE SO WHAT.
WHAT DO YOU ANTICIPATE BEING THE
USES IS IT THAT YOU HAVE THAT
MANY POWER OUTAGES IN YOUR HOME.
VERSION OF WHAT WHY WOULD YOU
WHY WOULD YOU BE DOING IT IN
YOUR HOUSE. YES WE'VE HAD
MULTIPLE POWER OUTAGES OVER THE
LAST FIVE YEARS AND- PROJECTIONS
ARE THAT WILL HAVE MORE OF THEM
AS WE FACE MORE EXTREME AND
DEADLY EVENTS IN CALIFORNIA. AND
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW DO WE
KEEP THE POWER ON TO KEEP OUR
REFRIGERATOR GOING. AND OTHER
BASIC APPLIANCES IN THE HOUSE.
SO WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO IT
ALREADY- THROUGH THAT INVERTER
THAT THAT CENTER SKINNER
DESCRIBED. BUT IT WILL MAKE IT
SEAMLESS WHEN WE HAVE AN ACTUAL
A BI DIRECTIONAL CHARGER.
POSSIBLE JUST TO COMPLEMENT THAT
THERE ARE MANY PER. THAT EXIST
TODAY THERE'S A PROGRAM CALLED
EMERGENCY LOAD REDUCTION
PROGRAM. HAS BEEN SAID ABOUT THE
THREE HOUR USING CALIFORNIA
WHICH DURING THOSE SPEAKS WHICH-
AGGREGATE MAYBE SIXTY HOURS PER
YEAR. YOU'RE GETTING PAID TWO
DOLLARS PER KILOWATT HOURS- WHY
YOU GOT THIS CHARGING THOSE
DURING THOSE PEAK EVENTS WHICH
IS WHAT WE DID WITH A SCHOOL
BUS. LAST YEAR AND THIS IS WHAT
WE I GET EVERY TO DO AGAIN SO
YOU. HAVE SOME SIGNIFICANT
OPPOSITION THAT THEY COME
THROUGH THAT- AND I THINK IT'S A
FAIR COMPENSATION FOR USING YOUR
VEHICLE WITH ABOUT ACTUAL CAVITY
SO THEY ARE OF NEARBY TREATIES.
YOU CAN JUST LOOK AT IT AS A
COST ASPECT IS ALSO. A REVENUE
THAT CAN BE GENERATED BY THE
VEHICLE WHICH IS WHERE THE TOTAL
COST OF OWNERSHIP CAN BE
REDUCED. AND THE EXAMPLE I GAVE
YEARS IN DENMARK WHERE WE ARE AT
THE BEACH WHICH IS THE TOTAL
COST OF OWNERSHIP. BY 40% WHICH
IS AND THOSE ON THE SENATE
LEAVE. TWENTY FOUR KILOWATT HOUR
BATTERIES. THANK YOU TO WHAT
CHARGING STATIONS FOR FREE SMALL
BATTERY- AND YET TO BE ABLE TO
GENERATE THREE THOUSAND DOLLAR.
PER VEHICLE PER YEAR IN THOSE
MARKETS. OKAY- IT'S INTERESTING
I MEAN. NOT EVER UTILITY DOES
THAT NOT EVERY UTILITY IS
SUBJECT TO AS MANY. POWER
OUTAGES AS A SOME OF THE OTHERS
SO I COULD SEE YOU KNOW IN
CERTAIN PARTS OF THE STATE- THIS
BEING MORE. DESIRABLE WHAT WHAT
WAS IN REFERENCE TO I THINK OUR
WITNESS WHO WOULD BE ABLE TO IS
THE TIME OF USE RATES. AND
EVERYONE ALL OF US ARE SUBJECT
TO THAT AND IF WE LOOK AT. IF WE
LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT
PROCEEDINGS BEFORE THE P. YOU
SEE. OUR ALL OF OUR AYE YOU USE
ARE COMING FORWARD WITH.
VARIANCES IN TIME OF USE RATES.
AND THOSE TIME OF USE RATES
BEING THAT WE WILL WE WILL WE
ARE NOW AND WE WILL BE. AS TIME
GOES ON. CHARGE TO THE MOST
DURING THE HIGHEST DEMAND HOURS.
SO OUR LECTURES THE RATES PER
KILOWATT HOUR AT THE HIGH DEMAND
HOURS. WILL BE VERY VERY
EXPENSIVE. AND MUCH LESS AT THE
LOW DEMAND HOURS WHICH THEN IF
YOU HAVE TO SKIP. CAPACITY YOU
CAN. CHARGE YOUR EEVEE IN THE
NIGHT TIME WHEN THE RATES ARE
LOWER. AND THEN USE THE E. V.
WHEN CAN. YOU KNOW DEPENDING ON
YOUR CIRCUMSTANCES TO POWER THE
HOME FOR AN HOUR OR TWO TO GET
YOURSELF. TO NOT HAVE TO PAY
THAT VERY HIGH RATE. THANK YOU A
SUMMER WARD. JUSTIN IS A TON OF
MUSTAD ON- ALSO THIRD GENERATION
LEAF OWNER SO I CAN TO LEARN
THROUGH THIS BILL. IT'S
BIDIRECTIONAL CAPABILITIES HAS
SOMETHING TO LOOK INTO BUT I
THINK EVERYTHING IS. A SAYS THE
NEED TO BE SAID- IS CERTAINLY
APPRECIATE THIS ESSENTIALLY IS
GOING TO BE A MOBILE STORAGE.
OPPORTUNITY AS WELL AND WE'RE
TRYING TO ENCOURAGE MORE STORAGE
THROUGHOUT CALIFORNIA AS WELL-
KNOWING AGAIN I AS A CONSUMER
AND SOMEBODY THAT MADE THAT
CHOICE TO GO THERE AND I SEE
WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS SORT
OF SOME QUESTIONS ARE GOING TO
BE. BEYOND THE VEHICLE ITSELF
THAT THE ADDITIONAL
INFRASTRUCTURE THAT ANY
HOMEOWNER OR PROPERTY ARE WE
NEED TO INSTALL THEIR- TO BE
ABLE TO MAKE THIS- AN OPTION FOR
THEM TO BE ABLE TO USE AT HOME I
THINK THAT THOSE ARE. THINGS
OUTSIDE OF THIS BILLS
JURISDICTION THAT WILL BE WORKED
ON DOWN THE ROAD BUT KNOWING
THAT WE'VE GOT REAL WORLD
EXAMPLES MULTIPLE EXAMPLES RIGHT
NOW THAT ARE COST EFFECTIVE FOR
CONSUMERS. THIS BILL SETS THE
STANDARD FOR TWENTY THIRTY A
VERY CHEERFUL YEAR SEVEN YEARS
FROM RIGHT NOW AND SO AS WE'RE
HEADING THROUGH THAT STAKEHOLDER
GROUP AND THERE. ARE UNFORESEEN
ISSUES THAT COME UP THAT ARE
GOING TO MAKE IT DIFFICULT FOR
THE MARKET TO BE ABLE TO MEET
THAT. LEGISLATORS CERTAINLY ABLE
TO REVISIT THAT AS WELL AS FOR
AT A FUTURE TIME- BUT I THINK
THIS IS A GOOD THING THAT IS
WITHIN NON CONCEPTUAL REGION I
THINK WE SHOULD GO FORWARD. AND
I'M SURE OF IS ALREADY IN MOTION
OR SECOND I'M HAPPY TO MOVE THE
BILL. THANK YOU. ANY ELSE WANT
TO. JUST WANT ONE QUICK COM. ON
THE REFERENCE TO THAT- PICKUP
TRUCK- COMMERCIAL. THE AUTO
INDUSTRY HAS ALWAYS BEEN A- ABLE
TO ADAPT TO NEW FEATURES COMING
OTHER VEHICLES. I'M SURE WE'VE
ALL SEEN THE BALLS BACK AND
COMMERCIAL WAS. THE MOMENT THEIR
DRIVER'S SEATS ON THE SEA THEN
THE MUSIC STARTS OF THE BABY'S
HOPPY. I CAN SEE OLDER MODEL
MAKERS. ALREADY ADJUSTING TO THE
NEAR FUTURE BECAUSE THEY'RE
GOING TO BE COMPETITIVE. NOW
THAT THAT'S THE ONLY REASON WHY
I WOULD BUY A VOTE BOTH WAGON.
BUT IN ORDER TO BE COMPETITIVE
IN ANY OTHER INDUSTRY IT HAS TO
BE AT OPTIONS AND COMING UP TO
WHAT. THE NEW TRENDS HEART
WHATEVER THOSE UP. OF IMAGES ARE
BECAUSE THAT'S JUST WHAT THE
INDUSTRY IS THEY WANT TO BE
COMPETITIVE THEY WANT TO BE ABLE
TO. PROVIDE THE SAME AMENITIES
OR FEATURES- SO THEY ARE
INDUSTRY WILL HAVE TO DO THAT
ANYWAY. IRREGULARLY DISARRAY
DOING IT- SO. TO ME THAT THAT'S
SOMETHING THAT- IT'S NOT AN
ISSUE FOR ME IT IT'S THEY WANT
TO SELL THEY WERE. SELL CAR. IN
TO. BRING THOSE. IN ANY ANY MAKE
AMONG SO. YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE
THAT CALL. THE OTHER THING IS-
VINCE TAPES- WHEN YOU BUY IN A
CONFLICT VEHICLE. THERE IN SAN.
THAT ARE REBATES- THOSE THAT
TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THEM THEY CAN
BUY A CHARGER NOW. I'M SURE THAT
THERE WILL BE AN OPTION TO BUY
THAT- INVERTER TO MAKE THAT
VEHICLE. OF CAPABILITY BE ABLE
TO DO THAT. SO THE END OF THE
DAY I THINK THAT THIS THEY WILL
END UP BEING PART OF THOSE
INCENTIVES BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT
WE ARE PROMOTING- SO BEFORE FOR
ME THAT I. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT
I JUST. LOS ESSENTIALS FOR THE
INDUSTRY DRIVING TO. MEET OTHER.
FEATURES THAT OTHER. X. ARE
DOING SO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
ANYBODY ELSE. BUT I WANT TO
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THE BILL
FORWARD VERY IMPORTANT-
DISCUSSION CERTAINLY. AND THINK
THINKING ABOUT WHAT THE FUTURE
OF EV'S AND POWER IS AND HOW
THEY WORK WITH THE GREAT IS A
VERY INTERESTING DISCUSSION YOU
CAN SEE BY THE LEVEL OF
INTEREST. I HEAR FROM THE
COMMITTEE AND IN THE ROOM. OF I
ALSO APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS
TO TAKE THE COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS
TO NARROW THE SCOPE OF THE BILL.
THERE ARE DEFINITELY SOME
UNKNOWNS THAT- WE WILL BE
WATCHING AS THIS BILL MOVES
FORWARD UNKNOWNS ABOUT THE
IMPACT ON THE WARRANTY. I THINK
THE OPPOSITION DOES MAKE A GOOD
POINT ABOUT WHAT THE IMPACT IS
ON THE BATTERY LIFE. AND HOW
THAT WOULD BE REFLECTIVE IN THE
WARRANTY PROGRAM AND WHETHER
CARP HAS THE CORRECT PARAMETERS
TO BE ABLE TO ACCOUNT. FOR THIS
KIND OF USAGE AND WHETHER THAT
DOES IMPACT THE EVENTUAL PRICE
OF THE VEHICLES- ONCE THERE'S A
MANDATE THAT I THINK IS STILL
UNKNOWN. WHAT THE CONSUMER
DEMAND WILL BE A YOU KNOW I WILL
TELL YOU MY CITY IN GLENDALE WE
WERE THE FOR THE FOR CITIES TO
BE. A 100% SMART METER ON THE
WATER IN THE POWER SIDE. AND
THEY'RE STILL ABSOLUTELY NO
INTEGRATION WITH PEOPLES- OF- A
LARGE OUT USES OF ELECTRICITY
WITH ANY OF OUR CLIENTS IS IN
THE CITY. SO THE IDEA THAT BREAK
QUICKLY PEOPLE BE ABLE TO FIGURE
OUT HOW TO. USE THIS TO TAKE
ADVANTAGE OF THE GREAT PRICING
WHEN WE DON'T EVEN HAVE AN
INTERACTION WITH SMART METER IN
THE CITY THAT. TELLS ME WHEN I
SHOULD BE RUNNING ANY OF MY
APPLIANCES LIKE THAT. THAT
FUNCTIONALITY WAS NEVER
INSTALLED. AND SO WE HAVE SMART
METERS AND LITERALLY ALL THEY
USE THEM FOR IS READING THE
METER. SO THEY ALL I THINK A LOT
OF OUR UTILITIES HAVE A LONG WAY
TO GO. IN TERMS OF GREAT
MANAGEMENT AND- POWERED AND
DEMAND AND CUSTOMER DEMAND AND
THERE'S A HUGE DISCONNECT.
BETWEEN ANY COMMUNICATION WITH
CUSTOMERS AND WHEN THEY'RE
SUPPOSED TO BE RUNNING THINGS.
AND ALLOWING THE GRID TO RUN
THOSE EXPOSED POWER HUNGRY
APPLIANCES NO I'D BE VERY HAPPY
FOR MY UTILITY. TO RUN MY- YOU
KNOW SOME OF MIGHT. APPLIANCES
WHEN THE ELECTRICITY IS CHEAPER
BUT THERE'S NO. ABILITY FOR ME
TO DO THAT OR EVEN TO KNOW WHAT
THE PRICE OF ELECTRICITY IS AT
ANY GIVEN TIME. SO I DON'T SAY
THIS TO ANY OF YOU BUT MAYBE IF
ANYONE FROM ENERGY IS LISTENING
THAT WOULD BE A GREAT THING IF
WE'RE GONNA. WE'RE GONNA HAVE
THIS CAPABILITY. SOMEONE'S GOING
TO HAVE TO KNOW WHEN TO FEED
THAT POWER BACK INTO THE GRID
BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW I DON'T
KNOW RIGHT NOW. SO THERE'S THAT
THERE'S STILL A LOT OF WORK TO
DO ON THE GRID SIDE. I KNOW
KNOWNS ABOUT YOU KNOW WHAT IT
COSTS FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE THEIR
HOUSE TO THIS. YOU KNOW IS THERE
AN EXTRA COST IS GOING TO BE
BORNE BY PEOPLE WHO WILL NEVER
USE THE BI DIRECTIONAL BECAUSE
THEY'RE IN MULTI FAMILY BUT- OR
WHATEVER IT IS SO I. I DO THINK
THERE'S UNKNOWNS HOWEVER. THE
ARGUMENT ABOUT THE INDUSTRY.
CHARGING A PREMIUM FOR THIS
CAPABILITY RESONATES WITH ME I
THINK THAT'S OF ALL THE
ARGUMENTS THAT YOU HAVE. THE
MOST POWERFUL ARGUMENT IN MY
MIND. THAT GIVEN THAT THERE'S
POTENTIAL FOR CUSTOMER SAVINGS.
FOR CUSTOMER USAGE AND THE FACT
THAT IT REALLY DOESN'T COST
ANYTHING TO PUT THESE INTO THE
VEHICLE. DOES SAY TO ME THAT YOU
KNOW THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS THAT
I UNDERSTAND CHARGING MORE MONEY
FOR YOU KNOW IF I MEAN I HAVE.
LEATHER SEATS SURE CHARGE ME.
BUT THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT
CUSTOMERS DON'T WANT TO BE
CHARGED EXTRA FOR. LIKE YOUR AIR
CONDITIONER. OR YOU KNOW MAYBE
IN THIS CASE THE BITER ACTUALITY
SHOULD. BE SOMETHING THAT
STANDARD IF IT WE TURNS OUT THAT
IT'S REALLY NEEDED BY THE GRID.
YOU KNOW AND IF WE DON'T HAVE IT
IN TEN YEARS DOWN THE ROAD. FOR
FIVE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD
SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE REALLY DO
WANT AND THAT THE GRID IS NOW
ASKING FOR. WE WILL HAVE HAD
MANY YEARS OF SELLING CARS
WITHOUT A CAPACITY MAYBE. THAT
THEY SHOULD HAVE HAD. AND MAKE
THOSE CARS A LITTLE BIT
OBSOLETE. SO I THINK THAT THERE
ARE GOOD ARGUMENTS ON THE ON THE
OPPOSITION SIDE THERE REALLY ARE
AND I DON'T DISCOUNT THEM. AND
THIS WAS KIND OF A TOUGH ONE FOR
THE COMMITTEE. BUT I DO THINK
IT'S THAT WOULD THAT WE SHOULD
BE CONTINUING THIS CONVERSATION
I'M VERY INTERESTED TO SEE WHAT
HAPPENS IN THE NEXT COMMITTEE
WHEN HE GETS INTO ENERGY AND
UTILITIES. WHAT THEY HAVE TO
SAY. SO AGAIN I DON'T TO A
DISCOUNT ANY OF THE ARGUMENTS
THAT WERE MADE I THINK THEY'RE
ALL THE RIGHT ARGUMENTS. I'M
JUST LANDING RIGHT NOW ON THE
SIDE OF SAYING. I THINK FOR JUST
FOR BASIC CONSUMER PROTECTION
THAT YOU KNOW I UNDERSTAND THE
POINT ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT
PEOPLE. HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE
THIS IN THE MATTER THEY'RE NOT
BEING. UP SOLD THIS FEATURE WHEN
IT REALLY DOESN'T SEEM TO COST
ANYTHING. ADDED AND SO WITHOUT
APPLE RECOMMENDING AN AYE VOTE.
I WE HAVE A MOTION THAT WE HAVE
A SECOND. OKAY THANK YOU HAVE A
ROLL CALL TO- WOULD YOU LIKE TO
CLOSE BEFORE WE GO TO A ROLL
CALL. FOLLOW THESE THANK YOU AND
I APPRECIATE THE CHAIRS- WRAP UP
BECAUSE IT IS I AM TRYING TO
CREATE A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD FOR
THE CONSUMER. AND IF WE LOOK AT.
IT LOOK WE KNOW THAT. WE'VE NOT
HAD BIG TAKE UP. OF EVEY
PURCHASE BY. OUR IN OUR
DISADVANTAGED COMMUNES BY OUR
LOW INCOME RESIDENTS. AND
THERE'S MANY MANY REASONS FOR
THAT. PART OF THAT IS BEEN
RANGE. IN THE DISTANCE. I'VE TO
JOB CENTERS TO WHERE AFFORDABLE
HOUSING IS THERE'S MANY MANY
MANY ISSUES. BUT WHEN WE LOOK
AT. THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS TO
TRY TO GIVE. LOWER INCOME
RESIDENTS. MORE ABILITY TO
EITHER BENEFIT FOR MANY V. OR
PURCHASE ANY B. THEY'VE ALL
BEEN. FROM EITHER AT THE LOCAL
AIR DISTRICTS. OR STATE POLICY.
NOT FROM THE INDUSTRY. AND DO
YOU KNOW DOES IT SORT OF- NOT
AGAIN TO BE OVERLY CRITICAL TO
THE INDUSTRY THE INDUSTRIES
LOOKING TO. MAXIMIZE YOU KNOW
SELL SELL VEHICLES THAT ARE YOU
KNOW HAVE ALL THE BELLS AND
WHISTLES AND ALL THE HIGHEST
PRICES AND SUCH. AND IT IS
USUALLY- NO THAT'S PART OF OUR
JOB OUR JOB IS TO MAKE SURE.
THAT THE- WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO.
DO THINGS LIKE MOVED TO EV'S
ACROSS THE BOARD THAT THEY IN
FACT. ARE BENEFICIAL TO
EVERYONE. ACCESSIBLE TO EVERYONE
AFFORDABLE TO EVERYONE AND THAT
ALL THEIR BEST FEATURES ARE
AVAILABLE TO EVERYONE AND THAT'S
OUR JOB SO I APPRECIATE THE
CHEERS- SUMMARY OF THAT. AND I
THINK TWENTY THIRTY IS A GOOD
REASONABLE TIME FOR THESE
MANUFACTURERS TO MEET THAT IT
SENDS A GOOD MARKET SIGNAL AND I
THINK THAT THE OF COURSE THE
CHARGING. COMPANIES WILL RESPOND
ALSO IN ITS THE DIRECTION THAT
WE WILL BE GOING IN AND I JUST
WANTED TO BE A DIRECTION THAT
ISN'T JUST LUXURY AND HIGH END
TO WITH THAT I ASKED FOR A VOTE
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I THANK YOU
CAN WE HAVE A ROLL CALL.
FRIEDMAN I FRIEDMAN I. FONG FONG
NO ALVAREZ. ALVAREZ NOT VOTING
BERMAN. BERMAN I RIO. RIO I
DAVIES. DAVIES NO. GIPSON ART.
ART I. JACKSON JACKSON NOT
VOTING. WALDRON WHEN I. SANCHEZ
WALLACE. WARD WORD I WICKS WIXII
. SEVEN WITH SEVEN. SEVEN TO ONE
I WILL LEAVE THE ROLE OPEN FOR
ABSENT MEMBERS THANK YOU ALL.
SEVENTY TWO SORRY IT WAS SEVENTY
FIVE. OKAY WE'RE MOVING NOW TO
SENATOR WIENER WITH SB FIVE
THIRTY TWO. YOU MIGHT BEGIN
WHENEVER YOU ARE READY.
I THANK YOU VERY MUCH MADAM
CHAIR AND COLLEAGUES APPRECIATE
THE TIME TODAY I'M HERE TO
PRESENT SENATE BILL FIVE THIRTY
TO THE SAFE CLEAN AND RELIABLE
BAY AREA PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION
EMERGENCY ACTS. WORDING NAME- ON
WHICH AN AXE A TEMPORARY BRIDGE
TOLL- TO RAISE DESPERATELY
NEEDED FUNDS TO PREVENT MASSIVE
TRANSIT SERVICE CUTS AND THE SAN
FRANCISCO BAY AREA ALSO
PROVIDING FUNDING FOR SAFETY
SECURITY CLEANLINESS AND
RELIABILITY IMPROVEMENTS SO
AGENCIES CAN CONTINUE RECOVERING
AND ATTRACTING RIDERS. A PUBLIC
TRANSPORTATION IS IN A PIVOTAL
MOMENT OF PARTICULAR ACROSS
CALIFORNIA BUT ESPECIALLY IN THE
BAY AREA EARLY IN THE PANDEMIC
TRANSIT RIDERSHIP COLLAPSED- TO
BUY AS MUCH AS 95% RIDERSHIP
ALONG WITH THEIR REVENUE HAS
BEEN GRADUALLY RECOVERING BUT
NOT QUICKLY ENOUGH FOR FARE
REVENUE TO FULLY COMPENSATE FOR
THE AND THE FEDERAL EMERGENCY
COVERT RELIEF. THESE OPERATIONAL
REVENUE SHORTFALLS IF
UNADDRESSED WILL LEAD TO TRULY
MASSIVE SERVICE CUTS IN THE
COMING YEARS. BART FACES THE
MOST EXTREME SITUATION AND THIS
IS SOMETIMES PRESENTED IN THE
PROCESS OF THE BAR PROBLEM BUT
I'M HERE TO TELL YOU THAT EVEN
THE BAR IS IN THE MOST DIRE
CIRCUMSTANCE THIS WILL AFFECT
NUMEROUS BAY AREA TRANSIT
AGENCIES SOME AS SOON AS NEXT
YEAR INCLUDING YUNI. WHICH WILL
START ELIMINATING ENTIRE BUS
LINES IN ADDITION TO BART
POTENTIALLY ELIMINATING WEEKEND
THE NIGHT TIME SERVICE OR
SLASHING AN ENTIRE LINE. A AND
IN THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS IT'LL
GO TO CALTRAIN AND OTHER
AGENCIES IS YOU TRANSIT ON AS
WELL- ADDING TO THE PROBLEM WE
KNOW THAT. COMING OUT OF THE
PANDEMIC THERE PEOPLE WHO ARE
CONCERNED ABOUT ISSUES OF
CLEANLINESS. AND SAFETY ARE SO
SOME PEOPLE ARE HESITANT TO GO
BACK. ON WHILE THESE ISSUES IN
THESE PROBLEMS HAVE DRAWN
ATTENTION WHICH IS IMPORTANT AND
WE NEED TO WORK TO TACKLE THEM.
I WON ALSO EMPHASIZED THAT OUR
TRANSIT AGENCIES ARE TRYING TO
DO BETTER- BAR WHICH HAS
RECEIVED THE MOST CRITICISM FOR
THESE ISSUES. HAS DEDICATED
SIGNIFICANT RESOURCES TO IMPROVE
INCLUDING A WORKING- AND
INCREASING THEIR BUDGET TO HIRE
MORE BORDER POLICE OFFICERS AND
UNARMED AMBASSADORS. DOUBLING
THE FREQUENCY OF ITS DEEP
CLEANING PROGRAM OF ITS CARS-
AND SO FORTH. THERE'S ALSO A
NARRATIVE- THAT I'M SURE OTHERS
OF HER THAT NO ONE IS RIDING
TRANSIT ANYMORE. I THAT
NARRATIVE IS COMPLETELY FALSE
AFTER RIDERSHIP COLLAPSE 25210%
A PRE PANDEMIC RIDERSHIP IT'S
BEEN STEADILY REBOUNDING. MUNY
IS CURRENTLY AT 66% OF PRE
PANDEMIC RIDERSHIP AND SOME
LINES OR OVER A HUNDRED PERCENT.
YOU SEE TRANSIT IS ABOUT SEVENTY
PERCENT. BAR IS A 43% DESPITE
THE DRAMATIC REDUCTION IN
DOWNTOWN SAN FRANCISCO OUR
COMMUTES WHICH IS SUCH A CORE
PART OF PART OF PARTS AND
SERVICE- BUT APART FROM THE
CURRENT PERCENTAGE IS THE
INCREASE. OVER THE PAST YEAR
MUNIZ RIDERSHIP HAS INCREASED BY
ONE THIRD AND BART BY NEARLY
FIFTY PERCENT. OF BARK CURRENTLY
CARRIES. BETWEEN A HUNDRED AND
FIFTY THOUSAND AND A HUNDRED AND
SEVENTY THOUSAND RIDERS A DAY.
OR CARRIED FORTY TWO MILLION
PASSENGERS LAST YEAR FORTY TWO
MILLION. MUNY CURRENTLY CARRIES
OVER FOUR HUNDRED THOUSAND
PASSENGERS PER DAY- I SAY THIS.
NOT TO CITE DATA. BUT TO
INDICATE WHAT HAPPENS IF WE
ALLOW THESE SYSTEMS TO FALL
APART. THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO WILL
NO LONGER BE ABLE TO GET TO
WORK. TO SCHOOL TO THE GROCERY
STORE TO THE SENIOR CENTER. TO A
CONCERT THAT THEY WANTED TO GO
TO AND SO FORTH. ALLOWING THE
SYSTEMS ON RIVAL WOULD ALSO
PROFOUNDLY HARM THE BAY AREA IT
WOULD SEVERELY UNDERMINE OUR
ECONOMIC RECOVERY PARTICULARLY
FOR A DOWNTOWN CORES. AND
RELATING TO ONE OF THE
OPPOSITION LETTERS THERE IS
NOTHING THAT COULD BE MORE
DESTRUCTIVE TO DOWNTOWN SAN
FRANCISCO'S RECOVERY. THAN THE
HOT TRANSIT COLLAPSE IT WILL
UPEND THE LIVES OF TRANSIT
DEPENDENT RIDERS PEOPLE WHO DO
NOT OWN CARS DO NOT HAVE THE
OPTION OF DRIVING. IT WILL HARM
DRIVERS WHO HAVE TO CONTEND WITH
MANY MORE CARS ON ALREADY
CONGESTED BAY AREA FREEWAYS AND
ROADS. EVERYONE BENEFITS WHEN WE
HAVE VIABLE TRANSIT- COLLEAGUES
ARE SOME PEOPLE HAVE SAID TO ME
MOVES IT SEEMS A LITTLE BIT IN
THE PROCESS. WHY WHY DO YOU NEED
TO DO THIS BILL WHICH US. PUT
THIS BIG INVESTMENT IN THE
BUDGET. AND THE TRANSIT. I AM
DEEPLY GRATEFUL TO THE TO OUR
LEADERSHIP IN BOTH HOUSES TO OUR
BUDGET CHAIRS AND TO THE
GOVERNOR FOR GREEN FOR ALL FOR
PUTTING FORTH THE BUDGET THAT WE
PASSED. IN A BAD BUDGET YEAR THE
DOES SUPPORT TRANSIT. BUT I WANT
TO BE VERY VERY CLEAR WE KEEP
HEARING A NUMBER THROWN AROUND
THAT WE PUT FIVE POINT ONE
BILLION DOLLARS. IN THE TRANSIT
THIS YEAR. AS JUST FIXING THE
PROBLEM. RIVAS IS A FIREHOSE OF
MONEY GOING TO TRANSIT THAT IS
NOT ACCURATE OF THAT FIVE POINT
ONE BILLION FOUR BILLION IS
TRANSIT CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE
MONEY THAT WAS ALLOCATED LAST
YEAR. AND IN THE BAY AREA IT'S
ALL SPOKEN FOR IT'S ALL BEEN
ALLOCATED TO CRITICAL REGIONAL
INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS. AND IF
THAT MONEY WERE TAKEN AND USED
FOR OPERATIONS THOSE PROJECTS
WOULD BE DEFUNCT THEY FALL APART
AND WE WOULD LEAVE MANY BILLIONS
IN FEDERAL MATCHING FUNDS ON THE
TABLE. THE ACTUAL NEW MONEY FOR
TRANSIT OPERATIONS IN THIS
YEAR'S BUDGET IS ONE POINT ONE
BILLION STATEWIDE. BY FORMULA
THAT'S FOUR HUNDRED MILLION FOR
THE BAY AREA OVER FOUR YEARS.
THE BAY AREA'S FIVE YEAR
OPERATIONAL TRANSIT DEFICIT TWO
POINT FIVE BILLION. AND WE
RECEIVED FOUR HUNDRED MILLION.
FROM THE STATE I AM DEEPLY
GRATEFUL FOR THAT FOUR HUNDRED
MILLION THAT IS APPROXIMATELY
SIXTEEN PERCENT. OF THE BAY
AREA'S TRANSIT DEFICIT IN THE
NEXT FIVE YEARS THE OTHER 84% IS
FOR THE BAY AREA UNFORTUNATELY
THE SOLVE. I WOULD LOVE TO GET
MORE STATE MONEY BUT I'M NOT
HOLDING MY BREATH AND SO RIGHT
NOW IT'S ABOUT REGIONAL SELF
HELP. AND THAT'S WHAT THIS BILL
AS- I'M I WANTED SAYS- EGGNOG
ALLEGE- THAT- THERE'S- DIVERSE
OPINIONS- ABOUT BRIDGE TOLLS IN
THE BAY AREA I'M NOT GOING TO.
SIT HERE AND TELL YOU THAT WE
HAVE. A HUNDRED PERCENT- BY YA
THERE ARE DIFFERING OPINIONS
AMONG MEMBERS OF THE BAY AREA
DELEGATION I'VE SPOKEN WITH WITH
ALMOST EVERY MEMBER SOMETIMES
REPEATEDLY SOME VERY ROBUST
CONVERSATIONS. AND THERE ARE A
LOT OF DIFFERENT OPINIONS ON
WHAT I HAVE SAID TO EVERYONE TO
MY COLLEAGUES ORGANIZATIONS IN
THE BAY AREA TO ANYONE WHO'S
INTERESTED. THAT IF IT'S NOT
BRIDGE TOLLS TELL ME HOW ELSE
WE'RE GOING TO SOLVE THIS
PROBLEM. BECAUSE IT'S NOT
TENABLE FOR US TO DO NOTHING.
THIS IS A HUGE PROBLEM THAT WE
NEED TO SOLVE THIS BILL IS A
WORK IN PROGRESS AND I
ACKNOWLEDGE I AND I'M HOPEFUL
THAT. WE WILL BE HAVING A BAY
AREA CAUCUS I HOPE NEXT WEEK. SO
THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO DISCUSS
THIS IS A CAUCUS. ABOUT FOR
TODAY I RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU TO
MOVE THIS BILL FORWARD TO
CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION A
CONVERSATION THAT SPRUNG UP
AFTER THE BUDGET DEAL WAS CUT
AND THAT'S WHAT WE RUSH TO PUT
THIS BILL ON PRINT. ON IT SO I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR- I GO
TODAY. I WITH ME TODAY TO
TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL-
IS- ZACK- ATTACHED GROSS OF THE
POLICY DIRECTOR AT. A
TRANSFORMER TO THE
TRANSPORTATION EQUITY POLICY
GROUP AND TERRY BROWN AND FROM
SEIU CALIFORNIA THANK YOU. GOOD
AFTERNOON CHAIR FREEDMAN AND
AUDIBLE MEMBERS A COMMITTEE MY
NAME IS ACT AS GROSS POLICY
DIRECTOR AT TRANSFORM AND CO
SPONSOR OF SB FIVE THIRTY TWO
ALONG WITH SPARE. PUBLIC TRANSIT
IS AT THE CORE OF OUR ECONOMIC
ECONOMIC RECOVERY OUR CLIMATE
GOALS AND EQUITABLE AND THRIVING
REGION. EVEN NOW 70% OF TRANSIT
TRIPS IN THE STATE ARE TAKEN
WITHIN THE BAY AREA. WE ARE SO
GRATEFUL THAT THE STATE STEPPED
IN TO PROVIDE EMERGENCY TRANSIT
FUNDING BUT AS SENATOR WIENER
SAID THAT ONLY PROVIDES FOUR
HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS TO THE
BAY AREA. THIS IS NOT EVEN
ENOUGH TO GET US TO OUR TWENTY
TWENTY SIX THE SOONEST WE COULD
PASS A SELF HELP REGIONAL
TRANSIT FUNDING MEASURE. THAT'S
WHY SB FIVE THIRTY TO IS SO
IMPORTANT AND THE NEED IS SO
URGENT. TRANSFORMS RESEARCH
FOUND THAT CUTS TO TRANSIT DUE
TO THE FISCAL CLIFF WOULD RESULT
AND SEVEN HUNDRED AND THIRTY
FIVE MILLION FEWER TRANSIT
RIGHTS IN THE BAY AREA. AND
BURDEN CURRENT AND FUTURE
TRANSIT RIDERS WITH OVER FIVE
BILLION DOLLARS IN INCREASED
TRANSPORTATION COSTS OVER THE
NEXT FIVE YEARS. THE PEOPLE HIT
HARDEST BY THESE CUTS WOULD BE
LOWER INCOME PEOPLE OF COLOR
SENIORS AND PEOPLE DISABILITIES
THOSE LEAST ABLE TO AFFORD
ALTERNATIVE TRANSPORTATION SUCH
AS BUYING A CAR. AS LAID OUT IN
A REPORT RISING ROAD ADVANCING
EQUITY TRANSFORM WH EQUITY
OUTCOMES BASED ON THREE CRITERIA
AFFORDABILITY ACCESS TO
OPPORTUNITY AND COMMUNITY
HEALTH. GIVEN THE
DISPROPORTIONATE IMPACTS TO LOW
INCOME. PEOPLE AND PEOPLE AND BY
BY COMMUNITIES IF TRANSIT
SERVICES CAUGHT AND THAT A 100%
OF THESE FUNDS WOULD GO TO
SUSTAINING AND IMPROVING. VITAL
TRANSIT SERVICE THAT SERVE THESE
COMMUNITIES WE BELIEVE THIS
LEGISLATION IS SUBSTANTIALLY
POSITIVE WHEN IT COMES TO ALL
THREE EQUITY CRITERIA. BUT WE'RE
ALSO FOCUSED ON MITIGATING THE
NEGATIVE IMPACTS TO LOWER INCOME
FOLKS WHO MUST DRIVE. THAT'S WHY
SB FIVE THIRTY TWO ADVANCES TO
ESSENTIAL CRITERIA TO FURTHER
ADVANCE EQUITY MITIGATE HARM.
ONE IS TO CAP THE EXISTING
TELEVISION FIND POLICY. AT
FIFTEEN DOLLARS PER FINE THIS IS
AN INCREDIBLY BURDENSOME AND
REGRESSIVE POLICY TO YOUR OVER
YOUR TIME IS UP. THANK THANK YOU
CAN GO TO YOUR NEXT WITNESS.
MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS TERRY
BRENNAN ON BEHALF OF S. YEAH YOU
CALIFORNIA. SEVEN HUNDRED
THOUSAND WORKING MEN AND WOMEN
IN CALIFORNIA AMONGST THEM. ARE
THE BULK OF THE WORKERS SAID
BART- VTA AND SANTA CRUZ-
TRANSIT- I JUST WANT TO PUT A
FACE ON THE IMPACT OF. THE
FAILURE OF TRANSIT. WE JUST
HIRED ED BARK. HUNDREDS OF
WORKERS TO CLEAN AND MAKE THE
TRAINS MORE SECURE PART OF THIS
RIDERSHIP RECOVERY YOU'RE SEEING
IS ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE OF
GETTING ON PART THAT IT WAS TWO
YEARS AGO. THESE ARE THE FIRST
PEOPLE AGO IF WE DON'T HAVE
ENOUGH MONEY TO KEEP THIS SYSTEM
GOING. IT WILL DEVASTATE. WHAT
HELPED TO REBUILD THE BART
SYSTEM THEY'RE RESHAPING WHEN
THE RIGHTS CO IT'S LONGER WORK
OUR SYSTEM. IT'S A ALL REGIONAL
TRANSIT SYSTEM FOR. SHOPPERS
THEN YOU GO ORDERS DINERS YOU
NAME IT MORE WEEKEND RIGHTS MORE
EVENING RIGHTS WHICH REQUIRES
MORE SECURITY MORE CLEANLINESS
THAT MY MEMBERS ARE DILIGENTLY
PROVIDING- WITHOUT SOME
ADDITIONAL FUNDING THAT'S GOING
TO FALL APART. AND HAS THAT
FALLS APART YOU HAVE THE
POTENTIAL FOR THE TRANSIT SYSTEM
COLLAPSING. HE SEES AB. A
FIGURED OUT NOW OR PAY MUCH
HIGHER LATER. THE COST OF
REBUILDING A BROKEN TRANSIT
SYSTEM IS GOING TO COST. TENFOLD
WHAT IT COSTS TO KEEP IT GOING
NOW IN TILL WE CAN RECOVER
THROUGH THIS AT THIS ENDEMIC
THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR YOUR
BUDGET VOTES. IN PUTTING A
BANDAID ON IT NOW WE NEED TO DO
THE SURGERY THIS IS SHERRY TO
KEEP THIS HEALTHY AND GROWING
AND HAVE A POTENTIAL FOR REAL
TRANSIT SYSTEM THAT WE ALL KNEW
AND WE'RE PROUD OF THE YEARS
BEFORE THE PANDEMIC. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE ROOM
WISHING TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OF
SB. FIVE THIRTY TWO. YEAH OF.
NOON CHAIR MEMBERS PERSONAL JUST
HERE IN THE OFFICE SAN FRANCISCO
AND MAYOR OF LONDON BREED IN
SUPPORT. JIM LIGHTS ON BEHALF OF
THE SAN FRANCISCO BAY AREA RAPID
TRANSIT DISTRICT IN SUPPORT. OR
TALK OF TRANSPORTATION POLICY
DIRECTOR ANSWER AND SUPPORT ALSO
SUPPORTING- FOR ENERGY C. ON
BEHALF OF THAT CARD. A STEVE
WALKER WE HAVE THE ALAMEDA
CONTRA COSTA TRANSIT DISTRICT IN
THE ALAMEDA COUNTY
TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION. I'M
SURE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE
YOUR THEN PUT ON A KIND OF A
HARD ON BEHALF OF CALIFORNIA
YIMBY IN SUPPORT THANK YOU.
THANK YOU SEE NOBODY ELSE HERE
TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT IS THERE
ANYONE HERE TO TESTIFY IN
OPPOSITION. IS THERE ANYBODY
OUTSIDE OF A PRIMARY WITNESS
HERE TO TESTIFY IN OPPOSITION.
OKAY SEEING THEM OVER THE PHONE
LINES OPERATOR CAN YOU PLEASE
OPEN UP THE PHONE LINES FOR SB.
FIVE THIRTY TWO. TO TESTIFY IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO S. B.
FIVE THIRTY TWO PLEASE PRESS ONE
ZERO. AND YOU HAVE A COMMENT
FROM LINE ONE TWENTY ONE WE.
NINE ONE TWENTY ONE PLEASE GO
AHEAD. ONE TWENTY THREE. NINE
TWENTY THREE OR MY COULD OPEN.
ONE THIRTY SEVEN. NINE THIRTY
SEVEN PLEASE GO AHEAD. THIS IS
MY NUMBER THIRTY SEVEN YES WE
CAN GO AHEAD MICHAEL LEVINSON I
WANT TO BE IN STRONG SUPPORT
HOPEFULLY THIS WILL NOT IMPACT-
LOW INCOME AND DISABLED BUT I
THINK IT'S NECESSARY STRONG
SUPPORT THANK YOU. NINE THIRTY.
ELEVEN WITH THE NORTH BAY AREA
IN SUPPORT. LINE ONE THIRTY.
NINE ONE YOU'RE GONNA START HELP
PLEASE AHEAD. OKAY HELLO AND IT
WAS YOU'RE GONNA OPEN CALIFORNIA
AND I'M IN STRONG SUPPORT OF WE
HAVE CRITICALLY OKAY DOES JUST
UNDER OPERATE PLEASE GO INTO THE
NEXT CALLER. FOLKS JUST NAME AND
YOU'RE NOT THANK YOU- NINE
FIFTY. ONE FIFTY BROUGH STABLE
SUSTAINABLE SILICON VALLEY IN
STRONG SUPPORT. AND MADAM CHAIR
THERE ARE NO FURTHER COMMENTS
THANK YOU WILL BRING IT BACK TO
THE COMMITTEE FOR QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS. WICKS THANK YOU- I
WANT TO THANK THE AUTHOR FOR
BRINGING THE BILL FORWARD- I
STOOD NEXT TO MANY TIMES
ADVOCATING FOR MORE FUNDING FOR
TRANSPORTATION IT'S REALLY
IMPORTANT OUR REGION I THINK I'M
THE ONLY BAY AREA NUMBER HERE AT
THE MOMENT RIGHT NOW ONE
EXPRESSED MY STRONG SUPPORT FOR
THE BILL I KNOW IT'S NOT IDEAL-
THESE ARE TOUGH CHOICES THAT WE
HAVE TO MAKE THEIR ALSO
DIFFICULT BUDGET TIMES AND- I
UNDERSTAND THAT THE CONCERNS
ABOUT THE BILL BUT- LEADING
PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION FAIL IS
NOT AN OPTION. SO WE NEED THESE
FUNDS I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION
TO MOVE THE BILL. THANK YOU I'M
MR WARD AND THEN WE'LL GO TO THE
BASE HERE. I HAVE A SECOND I'M
NOT COMING FROM THAT AREA- MY
WOULD BE GENERALLY IN DIFFERENT
BUT REALLY APPRECIATE LEADERSHIP
HERE UNDERSTAND THE STRESS OF
THE SYSTEM IS PLACED UNDER AND I
JUST HAD A COUPLE OF- CLARIFYING
QUESTIONS GIVEN THESE ARE- STATE
FACILITIES- WHAT. IF THIS WORD
OR STAY BRIDGES IF THE FEE WAS
RAISED. ON ONE HAND WHAT MIGHT
THAT DO IN THE FUTURE FOR OUR
ABILITY TO- CONTINUE TO
APPROPRIATE MAINTENANCE FUNDS OR
OTHERWISE BE ABLE TO KEEP UP OUR
CORE RESPONSIBILITIES. ON ALL
RIGHT NOW THE BAY AREA TOLL.
AUTHORITY WHICH I USED TO SERVE
HIM BACK IN THE DAY IN THE LOCAL
GOVERNMENT- OPERATES THE CARD
HALF OF THIS ON BEHALF OF THE
STATE. AND THE MAINTENANCE
HAPPENS THROUGH BRIDGES HOLES
AND WE- WE REYES BRIDGE TO
BRIDGE TOLLS- READ. IN TWENTY-
WE AUTHORIZE THEM TO GO OUT OF
THE BALLOT MEASURE ON THAT- AND
SO- THEY HAVE. BATA IS MY
EXPERIENCE INCREDIBLY DILIGENT.
ABOUT MAINTAINING THE BRIDGES
WITH THE BRIDGE TOLLS. I THIS IS
A SEPARATE. PEACE OF THE BRAVE
SOULS IF IT WERE TO PASS. A THAT
WOULD BE FOR TRANSIT OPERATIONS
SO 90% OF THAT AT LEAST WOULD
HAVE TO GO TOWARDS THE TRANSIT
OPERATIONS BUCKET. IF DOWN THE
ROAD THERE NEED TO BE ADDITIONAL
JUST MINUTES TO MEET ONGOING
MAINTENANCE EXPENSES THAT WOULD
BE SOMETHING FOR ABOUT A HAVE TO
CONSIDER. FOR A SUBSEQUENT-
HILLS IF THE IF THIS WITHOUT
YOU'RE A HUNDRED PERCENT-
THERE'S A BUCKET WITH 10% THAT
CAN BE USED FOR THINGS LIKE
TRANSFORMATION OF TRANSIT WE
WANT TO MODERNIZE THAT. MAKE IT
MORE SEAMLESS- SUTTER- M. DOES
THIS ALSO THEN REQUIRE ANY- SORT
OF- SCHEDULE A- A PROGRAM A
BUDGET BE PUT FORWARD. TRY TO
MEET THE INDIVIDUAL OPERATORS
AND TRY TO MAYBE- EQUILIBRIUM.
THE STRESS OF ONE AGENCY OVER
ANOTHER AND THE ALLOCATIONS. YES
TO THE BILL. IN RUNS THROUGH THE
M. T. C. WHICH IS A IS THE SAME
AS BOB- AS YOU KNOW AND SEE IS
LIKE A QUICK OF SOUND. ON AND-
THEY WILL. DO HOW THIS A TO THE
OPERATORS AS- THE BILL TO THEM
TO AVOID INTO A- OF THE NEW. ARE
SO THE OP. THAT HAVE THE
GREATEST. NEED IN TERMS OF
OPERATIONAL DEFICIT- WOULD
DEFINITELY THAT HAVE TO OUR TIES
THAT BUT THERE'S A LOT OF
FLEXIBILITY FOR THEM TO SEE
THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSION
ABOUT I KNOW IN THE COMMUNITY
ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE POTENTIAL.
OF HAVING MORE CONSTRAINTS ON
AND TO SEIZE DISCRETION LET
CERTAINLY A FAIR TOPIC OF
CONVERSATION IT HAS A ARE MORE
DEFLATING SET THE THAT TICKET
BEEN WELL THOUGHT THROUGH
APPRECIATE YOUR LEADERSHIP ON
THIS- DEFTLY DEFERRED A BAY AREA
CAUCUS- CONVERSATIONS THEY COME
. FOR BUT HAPPY TO BE ABLE TO
SUPPORT THIS BILL. THANK YOU
VICE YOU'RE- BUT THE MANAGER OF
. JUST REAL QUICK QUESTION AND
OF COURSE THIS IS THIS FOR
OTHERS BROKE A BILL BY LEASE
AVAILING THE ANSWER BUT- YOU
KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF FOCUS
ON- THE FUNDING COMPONENT AND
THE AMOUNT- IT CERTAINLY- YOUR
COLLEAGUE ON- IN THE BAY AREA-
MISTER GLAZIER HAS AS ANOTHER
PERSPECTIVE- I JUST WANTED TO
KIND OF GET YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE
WHAT. IS THE PLAN FOR
SUSTAINABILITY AND WHAT WHAT
WHAT WHAT WHAT WE GET- BART INTO
A MORE STABLE PLACE YEAH. SO I
AND- I THINK WHAT'S REALLY
IMPORTANT I'M NOT I'M NOT COULD
BE NAIVE IN THE WORLD IS NOT
GOING TO GO BACK TO TWENTY
NINETEEN BUT- THE RIDERSHIP HAS
BEEN. TRENDING UP. JUST NOT AS
QUICKLY AS WE WOULD LIKE I THINK
BAR A YEAR AGO WAS A 30%
RIDERSHIP PREPEND DEMOCRATIC
SHIP ITSELF FORTY. 3% AND IT
CONTINUES TO GO UP- AND SO IT
AND THAT'S BEEN TRUE FOR THESE
AGENCIES ARE. IN GENERAL-
SEVERITY AND YOU KNOW. I'M UNION
A. C. OR QUESTIONS SEVENTY
PERCENT. SO I THINK OVER TIME
THEY WILL YOU KNOW. WE GOT TO
TALKING TO BE THE SAME BAR HAS A
UNIQUE STRUGGLE BECAUSE IT IS
ONLY FIXED RAIL. SO THEY CAN'T.
HAVE IT TO EMPHASIZE YOU KNOW
THE IT'S A LOT HARDER FOR THEM
TO BE AS FLEXIBLE- BUT I THINK
OVER TIME THEY WILL BECOME MORE
SUSTAINABLE. IN ADDITION THE
REASON WE MADE THIS TEMPORARY IS
THE GOAL AND I THINK THIS WILL
IS LIKELY TO HAPPEN IN THE IN
TWENTY TWENTY SIX. I WE WOULD
HAVE A BAY AREA- TRANSIT-
FUNDING MEASURE ON THE- ON THE
REGIONAL BALLOT FOR LONG TERM.
SUSTAINABILITY AND THAT'LL BE
OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS A REASON
ALL CONVERSATION ALTERNATELY THE
LEGISLATURE WOULD HAVE TO
AUTHORIZE. IBM TO SEE TO GO OUT
WITH A BALLOT MEASURE ON BUT THE
GOAL IS TO TRY TO. SOLVE TELL A
LITTLE BIT. TO GET THROUGH THE
NEXT. YOU KNOW FEW TOUGH YEARS
AS RIDERSHIP CONTINUES TO
RECOVER. AS THE REGION MOVES TO
A REGIONAL BALLOT MEASURE. LIMIT
LET ME S. EVITE IF YOU DON'T IF
YOU DON'T MIND ASKING OF THE I
GUESS MAYBE ASK A DIFFERENT WAY
WE HAD A HEARING. WITH THIS
COMMITTEE IN TERMS OF THE CLIFF-
OF MASS TRANSIT AND WE WHAT I'M
HEARING FROM YOU IS THAT IT'S A
FUNCTION OF TIME. THAT YOU NEED
AT THE NEEDS. MORE TIME TO GET
THE SUSTAINABILITY. THE OTHER
OTHER MY OTHER CAR ON ON ON
SIDES HAVE OUTLINED IT THERE
ARE. OTHER CHALLENGES WITHIN THE
TRANSIT. SYSTEM THAT THAT ARE
MORE STRUCTURAL I NEED TO BE
ADDRESSED SO IT IS IT IT WHAT
LIKE THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO
GET A SENSE AS A KEY. WITH IT
ALL THIS ADDITIONAL FUNDING OR
WHAT. WHAT WILL BE DONE TO BRING
RIDERSHIP BASHER SO ABSOLUTELY
SO ON ON ON BAR IN PARTICULAR
WHICH HAS HAD THE BIGGEST
CHALLENGES AND BY OF ALL STATE
FOR THE RECORD AND THANK YOU TO
THE CHAIR FOR HELPING WORK ON
THIS. OP TRANSCRIPTOMICS MC'S
ARE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR STATE
HOMELESS FUNDING SO WHEN YOU
HAVE AN L. A. METRO REPORT FOR
EXAMPLE THE LITTLE HAVE HOMELESS
PEOPLE THAT ARE. MORE. WHERE
ELSE TO GO. FORT COUNTY HAS THE
BAG ITS CONSTITUENT COUNTIES
OFFER HELP WITH THAT- SO WE NEED
TO PUT. FUNDING INTO DEALING
WITH THE SOME OF THE SAFETY AND
SOME OF THE CLEANLINESS ISSUES
AND AGAIN BAR IS DOING THAT BUT
THERE'S MORE WORK TO DO- WE NEED
TO MAKE THE SYSTEMS. EASIER TO
USE SO MORE SEAMLESS SO THAT
IT'S REALLY EASY. TO CONNECT
FROM ONE TO THE OTHER AND IT'S
INTUITIVE TO PEOPLE WHICH IT.
ISN'T ALWAYS THE CASE. ON IT I
IN ADDITION WE NEED TO LOOK TO-
CHANGING. WAYS THAT PEOPLE ARE
GETTING AROUND AND SO FOR
EXAMPLE I MENTIONED ON MUNY-
WHICH I SEE EVEN BEFORE THE
PANDEMIC NEARLY WAS. 50% OF THE
OF THE TRANSIT RIDERSHIP IN THE
ENTIRE BAY AREA FAR MORE THAN
ANY OTHER SYSTEM- MUNY HAS BEEN
BECAUSE WE HAVE CERTAIN LINES
ARE LITERALLY OVER A 100% OF PRE
PANDEMIC- MUNY. HAS BEEN SERVICE
FOCUSING ON THE WORK FORCE LINES
AND THAT HAS ITS OWN BECOMES A
VIRTUOUS CIRCLE. UNIT HAS ALSO
CREATED BUS ONLY LANES THE UPS
OF THE FORTY NINE VAN NESS WHICH
USED TO BE A VERY PROBLEMATIC
LINE. IS NOW GOING GANGBUSTERS
BECAUSE HAS A BUS ONLY LANE AND
IT'S SO FAST AND SO EFFICIENT.
SO I THINK A LOT OF THE AGENCIES
ARE LOOKING AND NEED TO LOOK TO
HOW DO WE ADJUST TO THE NEW WAY
THAT PEOPLE NEW WAYS PEOPLE HAVE
GETTING AROUND. SO THAT THE
SYSTEMS ARE MEETING CURRENT
NEEDS. BOB BUT I WILL ALSO NOTE.
IN TERMS OF WORK FROM HOME AT
ALL THE PANDEMIC CHANGES THE DOT
I DON'T THINK THE DUST HAS
SETTLED. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT
OFFICE VERSES WORK FROM HOME IS
GONNA LOOK LIKE IN TWO YEARS
THREE YEARS FOUR YEARS FROM NOW.
ON AND SO WOULDN'T BE SIDE IF
THE SYSTEM STARTED TO UNRAVEL
BEFORE WE EVEN KNEW FOR SURE.
WHAT CHANGES THEY NEED TO MAKE
MAKE BUT ON THE BASIC SAFETY
CLEANLINESS THOSE KINDS OF
ISSUES- THEY'RE ALREADY DOING
THAT WORK THEY NEED TO DO MORE
OF IT MORE AGGRESSIVELY. AND
WITH MR GLAZER HE AND I HAVE. A
GREAT RELATIONSHIP I VOTED FOR
HIS BILL- LAST YEAR AND I WAS
PREPARED TO FOR A- THIS YEAR HAD
AN BEEN. AND NOT. DIVING TO. I
AND HE AND I ARE BE SITTING DOWN
ASSUME TO TALK. BUT AND I THAT
YOU FOR THAT AND I THINK I THINK
THAT. OF A DECEMBER DOESN'T
REGRET DOES REPRESENT THE BAY
AREA OF HAVE THAT HAVE VISITED.
MANY TIMES I THINK THAT THE
CHALLENGE FIRST FOR MYSELF IS
JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. YOU
KNOW WITH. THAT THERE'S ALWAYS
THIS. QUESTION AND THIS DESIRE
FOR FUNDS I JUST HAVEN'T SEEN A
LOT OF DETAILS IN TERMS OF WHAT
THE PLAN IS MOVING FORWARD. IT'S
A STATE ABILITY I THINK THAT'S
WHERE I THINK THERE'S A LITTLE
BIT OF A DISCONNECT- BETWEEN THE
TWO. YEAH AND THAT THOSE THOSE
PLANS ARE. HAPPENING AND IN THIS
I THINK THIS BILL IS AN
OPPORTUNITY TO PUSH THEM TO
HAPPEN EVEN FASTER WE AND WE'VE
SEEN. AS A LOT OF WORK IN THE
BAY AREA HAPPENING RIGHT NOW
THERE'S A WHOLE. TASK FORCE
REGIONALLY. THAT'S LITERALLY
FOCUSED ON- THOSE CHANGES AND I
DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANNA MAYBE
COMMENT ON THAT A LITTLE BIT.
YES OF THE BAY AREA CAME UP THAT
TRANSIT TRANSFORMATION ACTION
PLAN DURING THE PANDEMIC WHICH
CREATED TWENTY SEVEN DIFFERENT.
TASKS THAT THAT TRANSIT SHE'S
WOULD TAKE ON TO REBUILD
RIDERSHIP TO REIMAGINE SERVICE.
HER PRIORITIZE THE PEOPLE WHO
WERE STILL TAKING TRANSIT ABOUT
THE PANDEMIC- COVER RIDERSHIP.
FAR FROM NEW WRITERS FROM CHOICE
WRITERS AND TO THOSE WITH
TRANSIT DEPENDENT. AND SO WE ARE
STILL IMPLEMENTING THOSE
POLICIES AND THIS BILL WOULD
HELP FURTHER PUSH THOSE POLICIES
ALONG. TO REGARD RIDERSHIP TO
GET TO FINANCIAL SUSTAINABILITY.
AND TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO GET
BACK ON TRANSIT. ANYONE ELSE IN
THE COMMUNITY. I JUST WANT TO BE
ON THE RECORD LABELS FOR PUBLIC
TRANSIT. FAMILIES THE PANEL DOT
OF TO GET TO WORK TO GET TO
SCHOOL WHEREVER THEY NEED TO BE-
AND YOU ANSWERED A- LITTLE BIT
OF THE QUESTION THAT I HAD AS
THE DATE FOR DECEMBER THIRTY
FIRST TWENTY TWENTY EIGHT. US
BELIEVE YOU SAID YOU'RE LOOKING
AT TWENTY TWENTY SIX TO PUT UP
THE MEASURE ON THE BALLOT. BUT
THIS TWENTY TWENTY EIGHT IS THAT
SOMETHING THAT THERE'S SOME DATA
BEHIND IT THAT. YOU THINK UP
PUBLIC TRANSIT WILL BENEFIT
BASED ON THE- BALLOT MEASURE.
YEAH AND LIKE I SAID THIS IS ALL
A WORK IN PROGRESS. THIS BILL IF
IT WERE TO PASS COULD END UP
BEING A DIFFERENT TIME FRAME OR
THERE COULD BE. CHANGES AND WE
DON'T YOU KNOW WE'RE HOPING THAT
THERE WILL BE A BALLOT MEASURE
AND- TWENTY TWENTY SIX AND WE'RE
HOPING. THAT IT'LL PASS- BY HI
THIS IS A STARTING POINT IN
TERMS OF- YOU KNOW WE KNOW THAT
IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS WE HAVE.
AN ESTIMATE ABOUT WHAT THE
SHORTFALL IS- AND SO WE THOUGHT
THAT THIS TIME FRAME. OF MADE
SENSE. BUT AGAIN IT'S A TOPIC OF
CONVERSATION. OKAY SEEING NO ONE
ELSE- SPEAKING. I WANT TO THANK
YOU FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD- I
TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU THAT WE
CAN ALLOW TRANSIT TO FAIL. I IN
THE TRANSPORTATION MOBILITY
SPACE THERE'S NOTHING MORE
IMPORTANT THAN PUBLIC
TRANSPORTATION. AND I WISH THAT
THE STATE. BUT MORE OF ITS
RESOURCES IN THAT DIRECTION IN
FACT I'VE BEEN WORKING FOR A
NUMBER OF YEARS AND TRYING TO DO
EXACTLY THAT- BUT WE'RE- NOT.
ALLOWING OUR TRANSIT AGENCIES
OFTEN THE CHANCE TO REALLY
SUCCEED BECAUSE WE UNDER
FOURTEEN SOMEONE UNDER RESOURCE
TIME. A FROM THE STATE AND AT
THE SAME TIME THEY ALSO HAVE TO
DO A BETTER JOB OFTEN IT
RESPONDING TO THE NEEDS OF THEIR
AND THE DEMANDS OF THEIR
CONSTITUENTS. IT'S NOT JUST
RUNNING TRAINS ON TIME ABOUT
SOMETIME THAT WILL GET PEOPLE
INTO THE SYSTEM IT'S MAKING SURE
THAT THEY ADJUST FOR CHANGING
USE PATTERNS. OR THE CLEANLINESS
FOR SAFETY FOR BEING AS
CONVENIENT FOR ALL USERS TO
PEOPLE WHO ARE DISABLED FOR WHAT
OLDER. FOR WOMEN WITH AND OTHER
FAMILIES WITH STROLLERS AND
SMALL CHILDREN AND OTHER THINGS
THAT OFTEN CAN BE A HUGE BARRIER
THAT SEEM TO GO UNNOTICED BY OUR
TRANSIT AGENCIES. SO I HOPE THAT
THEY TAKE THIS ALSO AS A- TIME
TO REALLY RETHINK A LOT OF WHAT
THEY DO. I'LL BE SUPPORTING THE
BILL TODAY TO ME IT'S A DISTRICT
BILL. I AND I KNOW THAT YOU'RE
GONNA CONTINUE TO WORK WITH ALL
OF THE DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS IN
YOUR AREA AND GETTING ALL THE
AGENCIES AND ALL THE
STAKEHOLDERS IN AN AREA LIKE BAY
AREA TOGETHER IS NEVER. POSSIBLE
MUCH LESS EASY BUT I REALLY
APPRECIATE YOU I'M COMING UP
WITH- A SOLUTION AND TAKING SO
MUCH- ACTION. VERY INTENTIONAL
DELIBERATE ACTION AND LOUD
ACTION TO MAKE SURE THAT WE-
KEEP OUR TRANSIT AGENCIES GOING.
SO WE DO HAVE A MOTION I THINK I
HEARD A SECOND AS WELL. WE HAVE
A SECOND FROM ANYBODY. OKAY WE
HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ROLL
CALL I WOULD LIKE TO CLOSE
RESPECTFULLY ASK RIVAL. SB FIVE
THREE TWO TO PASS AND REFERRED
TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS FRIEDMAN. HI
FRIEDMAN I FONG. FONG NO.
ALVAREZ BERMAN. RIO RIO I
DAVIES. DAVIES NOW. GIPSON
HEART. ART I. JACKSON JACKSON
AYE KALRA WHEN. WHEN I SANCHEZ.
WALLACE WARD. WORD I. WICKS REX
. SEVENTY TWO WILL LEAVE THE
ROLE OPEN FOR ABSENT MEMBERS.
THANK YOU COLLEAGUES THANK YOU
I'M BECAUSE I FAILED TO DO IT
EARLIER DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY
OBJECTIONS TO GRANTING
RECONSIDERATION OF S. B. SEVEN
TWENTY BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT.
OKAY HEARING ON WE WILL GRANT
RECONSIDERATION TO THAT BILL
TODAY. NEXT UP WE HAVE A S. B.
FIVE THIRTY EIGHT PORTANTINO YOU
MAY PROCEED WHEN YOU'RE READY.
WE HAVE A MOTION. AND A SECOND.
YOU NEED TO PUT YOUR MICROPHONE
ON. OKAY THIS IS A BILL THAT
CAME TO ME AND I WISH I COULD
REMEMBER THE PERSON WHO
SUGGESTED ON FACEBOOK THAT WE
MAKE ALL OF THESE PLANS FOR
ALTERNATIVE TRANSPORTATION ACT
OF TRANSPORTATION BUT WE DON'T
HAVE SOMEBODY SPECIFIC IN
CALTRANS WITH THAT EXPERTISE IN
THE SEEKS. TO CREATE AN OFFICE
SPECIFICALLY CHIEF ADVISER ON
CYCLING I BELIEVE THE PRIME
MINISTER OF ENGLAND CREATED A
POSITION IN HIS CABINET JUST FOR
THAT POSITION AND AT THE
APPROPRIATE TIME WOULD
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN AYE VOTE
AND WE HAVE MARK HERE. YOU OFFER
EXPERT TESTIMONY THANK YOU. OKAY
A GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE MY
NAME IS MARCUS WHICH CHARACTER
STATE POLICY FOR STREETS FOR ALL
PROUD SPONSOR OF SB FIVE THIRTY
EIGHT. WE HAVE A SPECIFIC GOAL
WITH THIS BILL WHICH IS TO SHAPE
CALTRANS TO BE INCLUSIVE AND
REPRESENTATIVE AGENCY OF ALL
MOBILITY OPTIONS. BY HAVING THIS
POSITION THERE'D BE A POSITION
AND A VOICE AT THE TABLE TO
IMPROVE BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN
SAFETY ACROSS THE WHOLE STATE. I
CALTRANS AS AN INSTITUTION IS A
LEGACY OF TRAFFIC ENGINEERS WERE
TAUGHT OF THE LEVEL OF SERVICE
MEN TALLY OF MOVING CARS VERY
QUICKLY FROM POINT A TO POINT B.
BUT IN MANY WAYS CALTRANS IS NO
LONGER THAT INSTITUTION
ESPECIALLY AFTER SB SEVEN FORTY
THREE STEINBERG. CALTRANS NOW
NEEDS TO USE V. M. T. INSTEAD OF
LOS. CALTRANS ALSO HAS THE
MISSION TO THING ABOUT ALL
INFRASTRUCTURE USERS AND THEY'RE
SAFE AND EFFICIENT PASSAGE SAID
EXCLUSIVELY DANGEROUSLY FAST
MOVEMENT OF A SINGLE OCCUPANCY
VEHICLE. THE MENTALITY MOVING
CARS AT THE EXPENSE OF ALL ELSE
IS STILL. AND INCLUDING LOCAL
EVEN SALES TAX REVENUE PERSISTS
WE CAN GIVE YOU SEE CALTRANS
USING EXISTING INTERNAL
STRUCTURES THAT HAVE BEEN
ESTABLISHED FOR THE SAKE OF
HONORABLE VULNERABLE ROAD USERS.
FAIL THEM. RECENT EXAMPLES THAT
CALTRANS ABOUT TO REPAVE STATE
ROUTE TWO IN LOS ANGELES. AND
CONTRARY TO THEIR OWN AGENCIES
EXECUTIVE ORDER ON COMPLETE
STREETS THEY'RE IMPLEMENTING
ZERO NEW BIKE OR WALK
INFRASTRUCTURE. ANOTHER EXAMPLE
IS AN ORANGE COUNTY CALTRANS
PUTTING TWO MILLION DOLLARS OF.
ITS HUNDRED MILLION DOLLAR
PROJECT. OR THE ACT OF
TRANSPORTATION COMPONENT ON YOUR
PURPLE OF ART. THIS STRETCH
SERVES AS THE CITY OF CUSTOM IS
THE DEADLIEST CORAL CORRIDOR FOR
BOTH CYCLISTS AND PEDESTRIANS
DEAD LISTED AT LEAST IN THE
ENTIRE CITY. ABOUT A HUNDRED
CARS HUNDRED THOUSAND CARS
PASSED THROUGH THERE AT FREEWAY
SPEEDS EACH DAY. HOW TRAINS IS
RECOMMENDING THE PLACEMENT OF
CLASS TWO AND CLASS THREE BIKE
LANES. WHICH IF YOU'RE NOT SURE
WHAT THOSE BIKE LANES ARE BYE
BYE NUMBER. THEY ARE INADEQUATE
AND FLAGRANTLY AGAINST CALTRANS
IS OWN STANDARDS FOR SAFE BIKE
AND BICYCLE INFRASTRUCTURE.
AGAINST NAFTA STANDARDS AND
AGAINST FHWA STANDARDS. THE
REFLECTS THAT LEVEL OF SERVICE
INTEREST OVER THE ADEQUATE
ADEQUATE DESIGN. WE BELIEVE THAT
CALTRANS NEED SOMEONE WITH THE
AUTHORITY AND PER VIEW TO
PROTECT VULNERABLE ROAD USERS AT
A TIME THAT WE ARE AT A FORTY
YEAR HIGH. STREET DEATHS. WE
NEED SOMEONE INTERNAL THE FORCE
CALTRANS TOWARDS EFFICIENT AND-
AND EFFECTIVE ETHICAL
INFRASTRUCTURE THEY CAN KEEP ALL
ROAD USERS SAFE. OR AT THE VERY
LEAST MAKE THE AGENCY FOLLOW ITS
OWN MINIMUM STANDARDS AND FHWA
STANDARDS. WE LOOK FORWARD TO
CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE
COMMITTEE AND THE AND THE AGENCY
AS WE CONTINUE TO SPEAK TO
CALTRANS. I RESPECTFULLY ASK
REFERENCE I'VE THANK YOU THANK
YOU VERY MUCH IS THERE ANYBODY
ELSE IN THE ROOM WISHING TO
TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OF SB. FIVE
THIRTY EIGHT. MADAM CHAIRMAN OF
THE COMMITTEE A YEAR THEN PUT IN
A KIND OF A HOT ON BEHALF OF
CALIFORNIA BE IN SUPPORT THANK
YOU. YOU ANYBODY ELSE. A. SINGH
NINE WE DON'T HAVE ANY
OPPOSITION ON FILE BUT IF
THERE'S ANYBODY WHO WISHES TO
TESTIFY IN OPPOSITION TO THE
BILL PLEASE COME TO THE
MICROPHONE. FACING NINE OPERATOR
CAN YOU PLEASE OPEN THE- PHONE
LINES FOR SB FIVE THIRTY EIGHT.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO SB FIVE
THREE EIGHT PLEASE PRESS. ONE
ZERO. AND FIRST WE'LL GO TO LINE
ONE THIRTY FIVE PLEASE GO AHEAD
. ONE THIRTY FIVE YEAR MIKE IS
OPEN. ONE THIRTY EIGHT. ONE
THIRTY EIGHT PLEASE GO AHEAD. MY
NAME IS LEANNE JAMES- THINKING
FOR MYSELF GOING INTO PARK. GO
CALLING INTO. NO. TWENTY SEVEN.
MURDER NUMBER WITH SOME
COMMUTING AT YOUR MARBLE JUSTICE
ALSO IN APART BIKING ALLIANCE IN
STRONG SUPPORT. AND MADAM CHAIR
THERE ARE NO FURTHER COMMENT
OKAY WE'LL GO BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE. SEEING NO QUESTIONS
OR COMMENTS WOULD YOU LIKE TO
CLOSE. FOR ALL OF THE REASONS
STATED I RESPECTFULLY
ASTRONOMICAL HEY WE HAVE A
MOTION AND A SECOND WE HAVE A
ROLL CALL SB FIVE THIRTY EIGHT
TO PASS AND REFERRED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS. AYE
FRIEDMAN AYE FONG. FONG NOT
VOTING ALVAREZ BERMAN CARILLO
RIO II DAVIES A. B. I GIPSON
HEART ART I JACKSON JACKSON AYE
KALRA WHEN I SANCHEZ WALLACE
WALLACE I WARD WORD I WICKS REX
I. UNTIL. ONE NINETY HERE THAT
BILL IS OUT THANK YOU WE'RE
MOVING NOW TO SB SEVEN TEN.
AMADOR ALSO YOU MAY BEGIN
WHENEVER YOU'RE READY. WE HAVE A
MOTION AND A SECOND. THE MUNICH
ONE OF THE SAME THING. OKAY THE
END IS GOING TO SAY SOMETHING
HERE. THE OKAY I KNOW WHAT- AS
THE SEVEN TEN TERMINUS IS VERY
UNIQUE THROUGH THIS PROCESS WE
HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY
OF ALL HAMBRE TO ADDRESS OUR
CONCERNS THERE NOW IN SUPPORT OF
THE BILL THE CITY OF LOS ANGELES
HAS ALSO SIGNED ON IN STORE
SUPPORT OF THE BILL WE'RE GONNA
CONTINUE TO WORK WITH ALL OF THE
LOCAL GROUPS- THIS IS AN
OPPORTUNE REPAIR THE- OLD SCARS
LEFT- BY ABANDONED CALTRANS
PROJECTS SO. WITH THAT THANK YOU
VERY MUCH MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT
PERFECT THERE ANYONE HERE TO
TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OF SB SEVEN
TEN. SEEING NONE IS THERE
ANYBODY HERE TO TESTIFY IN
OPPOSITION SB SEVEN TEN. SEE NOW
LET'S GO TO THE PHONE LINES
OPERATOR CAN YOU PLEASE OPEN AT
THE ROLE US OPEN THE- PHONE
LINES FOR SB SEVEN TEN. TO
TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION
TO S. B. SEVEN TEN PLEASE PRESS
ONE ZERO. AND WE HAVE A COMMENT
FROM LINE ONE FORTY PLEASE GO
AHEAD. HELLO I TRIED TO GET
CONGREGATE SUPPORT SORRY. OKAY
ANYONE ELSE OPERATOR. AND
MANAGER THERE ARE A FEW MORE
COMMENTS COMING THROUGH IS IF
YOU ONE MOMENT PLEASE WHILE WE
PROVIDE THEM WITH THEIR LINE
NUMBER THANK YOU.
IN THAT LANE EIGHTY SEVEN PLEASE
GO AHEAD. GOOD AFTERNOON MADAM
CHAIR NUMBER COUNTY DELGADO ON
BEHALF OF THE FULL SUPPORT. LINE
. ONE THIRTY NINE. HELLO NINE
ONE THIRTY NINE PLEASE GO AHEAD
. LINE. THREE ABOUT MARKET SORT
OF ADULTERY NOT UNDER SUPPORT OF
SB SEVEN TEN THANK YOU HOPE.
MADAM CHAIR THERE ARE NO FURTHER
COMMENT OKAY WILL COME BACK TO
THE COMMITTEE. NO QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR A VIRGIN
I WROTE. A BROKE OFF PLACE. SB
SEVEN TEN TO PASS AND REFERRED
TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS FRIEDMAN HI
FRIEDMAN I FONG. FONG I ALVAREZ
BERMAN RIO RIO I DAVIES DAVIES I
GIPSON ART ART I JACKSON JACKSON
I KALRA WHEN. WHEN I SANCHEZ.
WALLACE WALLACE I WARD WARD I
WICKS WITH HI. AND IT'S HERE
THAT BILL IS OUT THANK YOU
MANAGER I DO NOT SEE IT SENATOR
ARE TO LET I DO NOT SEE SENATOR
DOLLY SO WE WILL GO TO SENATOR
TALK. AMERITAS SORRY. FOR ACR.
SEVENTY ONE. YOU HAVE A MOTION
AND A SECOND ALREADY. I REALLY
APPRECIATE THAT BUT THANK YOU
MADAM CHAIR FOR ALLOW ME
ALLOWING ME TO RESEND THIS OUR
RESOLUTION I WOULD LOCK ON SO A
LOT OF THINGS YOUR COMMITTEE
STAFF FOR WORKING ON THIS ISSUE
THAT IS SIGNIFICANT FOR ME AND
MY COMMUNITY S. AS SEVENTY ONE
WOULD DESIGNATE A PORTION OF
INTERSTATE HIGHWAY. QUALIFY AS
LEADERS ARE GOING FREE WAY I
FOUR FIVE RUN. TO ORANGE COUNTY
LEADERS ARE GONE COMMUNITY
WIRELESS ON COMMITTEES BEST NO
FOUR EAST BY VISION DISTRICT IT
IS MUCH MORE. IT IN KHAMIS'S
PARK WESTMINSTER GOT AND RALPH
ON VIOLATE SANTA ANA AND IS HOME
TO LACK JUDGMENT AMIS POPULATION
OUTSIDE PICKING THEM. AS
DATABASE A MAJOR CULTURAL CHAU
SHOWED COMPOSURE CENTER FOR THE
VIETNAMESE AMERICAN COMMUNITY IN
CALIFORNIA THIS YEAR MARKED THE
THIRTY FIFTH ANNIVERSARY OF THE
OVERNIGHT THE- MENTION
RECOGNITION ONE COUNTY LEADERS
ARE GONE BUSINESS DISTRICT. IS
AS EVERYONE NOT ONLY RECOGNIZE
THIS IMPORTANT EVENT BUT
CELEBRATED SEPTEMBER ROLE AND
IMPORTANCE OF THE VIETNAMESE
COMMUNITY AFTER FOUGHT SAIGON
MORE THAN TWO MILLION AND FIVE
HUNDRED THOUSAND BE TO MISS
REFUGEE AND AMARIN'S BECAME
PERMANENT RESIDENT AND U. S.
CITIES AND INCLUDING MYSELF
I'VE- PLAYED COMMUNISM FOR
CALIFORNIA DREAM WHEN IT WAS
NINETEEN USE OUT. I AM PROUD TO
WORK WITH THE LOCAL ELECTED
OFFICIAL COMMITTEE LEADERS AND
ALL STAKEHOLDERS TO ENSURE THAT
LOSING LONG RECEIVED FULL
POTENTIAL AS CULTURAL OF FOR THE
VIETNAMESE COMMITTEE AND WORLD
CLASS DESTINATION FOR THE VISIT
A AND ON COUNTY COMMITTEE. THANK
YOU SO MUCH AND ASK FOR YOUR
SUPPORT AND I HAVE A WITNESS
MISTER VAN TRANSFORMER.
CALIFORNIA STATE SALOMON. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH WE DON'T ANYONE ON
FILE AND I. SO IF YOU'RE FREE TO
GO. FOR ANYONE HERE TESTIFY IN
OPPOSITION BUT FEEL FREE TO.
WELL GOOD MADAM CHAIR OF MR VICE
CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE- I HAD THE HONOR OF
SERVING IN THE STATE ASSEMBLY.
OF REPRESENTING CENTRAL ORANGE
COUNTY FROM- FORETOLD TED. IT IS
A PLEASURE FOR ME TO BE BACK IN
SACRAMENTO. TO VOICE MY STRONG
SUPPORT FOR ASSEMBLY MEMBER
TREAT US ACR SEVENTY ONE
DESIGNATING A PORTION OF ORANGE
COUNTY'S INTERSTATE FOUR OH
FIVE. THAT INTERSECTS TO THE
LARGEST MIMI'S DE ESPERA. IN THE
WORLD ASKED A LITTLE SAIGON
FREEWAY- THIS DESIGNATION IS
VERY MUCH ON POINT. FOR SO MANY
REASONS ASK A BURGEONING
VIETNAMESE AMERICAN COMMUNITY IN
ORANGE COUNTY HAS CONTRIBUTED SO
MUCH TO THE CULTURAL.
EDUCATIONAL ECONOMIC AND
POLITICAL RICHNESS OF CALIFORNIA
SINCE RESETTLING HERE NEARLY
FIVE DECADES AGO. THE OFFICIAL
RECOGNITION OF LOS SAIGON ON A
SHORT STRETCH OF FOUR OH FIVE I
FOUR FIVE. RUNNING THROUGH THE
FIRST AND LARGEST REDUCE I PLAY
FOR IN THE U. S. SERVES AS A
FITTING TRIBUTE BY THE STATE
LEGISLATURE. THAT THE VIETNAMESE
AMERICAN COMMUNITY IS AN
INSTRUMENTAL MEMBER OF OUR
STATE. OF I KNOW WE HAVE A-
BOWSHER DENNIS I'M GONNA KEEP IT
REALLY SHORT HERE. OF SO TO THIS
DAY OC'S LOW SAIGON CONTINUES TO
THRIVE EXPANDING TO PARTS OF
FOUR CITIES WESTMINSTER GARDEN
GROVE SANTA ANA AND FONG VALLEY.
TREMENDOUS GROWTH OF THE
DISTRICT REFLECTS THE GROWTH OF
THE VIETNAMESE AMERICAN
COMMUNITY THE PASSAGE OF ACR
SEVENTY ONE. SHOULD INCUR
MINIMAL COST IF ANY TO THE STATE
AS A SIGN WILL BE PAID FOR
THROUGH PRIVATE DONATIONS AGAIN
I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST AN AYE
VOTE. FROM THE COMMITTEE FOR ACR
SEVENTY ONE THANK YOU SO MUCH
THANK YOU VERY MUCH IS THERE
ANYONE ELSE IN THE ROOM WISHING
TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT. OF ACR
SEVENTY ONE. OKAY I DON'T HAVE
ANY WITNESSES ON FILE IN
OPPOSITION HERE IS OR ANYBODY IN
THE ROOM WISHING TO TESTIFY IN
OPPOSITION. OKAY LET'S GO TO THE
PHONE LINES FOR ACR. SEVENTY
ONE. TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION TO ACR SEVENTY ONE
PLEASE PRESS ONE ZERO. AND WE
HAVE A COMMENT FROM LINE EIGHTY
FOUR PLEASE GO AHEAD. HELLO MY
NAME IS KATIE AND I'M THE
CURRENT BOARD OF TRUSTEES WILL
ENSURE THAT NO COMMUNITY
COLLEGE- I DISTRICT INCLUDES
ARTICLES AND- SANTA ANA WHICH IS
VERY HEAVILY VIETNAMESE- I'M
ALSO RESIDENTS A LONGTIME
BUSINESS OWNER IN THE AREA AND I
ASK YOU TO SUPPORT- THERE EIGHT.
SEVEN ONE EIGHT BENEFIT BUT
CLEARLY WE'RE NOT MAKING ANYMORE
WE'RE NOT TAKING ANY MORE
TESTIMONY THANK YOU GO THANK YOU
FOR CALLING IN OKAY NEXT CALLER
. THE LINE. THIRTY FOUR. CAN YOU
GUYS HEAR ME OKAY YES. OKAY THIS
IS COUNCILWOMAN AMY FAN WEST OF
THE CITY WESTMINSTER I AM A
SMALL BUSINESS OWNER AB ALSO A-
COMMUNIST SURVIVOR AND I LIVE IN
WESTMINSTER HELLO THANK GOD. SO
I AM IN STRONG SUPPORT OF THIS-
ATR SEVENTY ONE THANK YOU THANK
YOU. BLIND. SIXTY TWO. HELLO
TERRY RANGE ON BEHALF OF MANY
WESTMINSTER RESIDENTS WE
STRONGLY OPPOSE ACR SEVENTY ONE
UNLESS IT IS SUBSTANTIALLY
AMENDED AS SUGGESTED THANK YOU.
MADAM CHAIR THERE ARE NO FURTHER
COMMENT THANK YOU WILL GO TO THE
COMMITTEE FOR ANY COMMENTS. NO I
APPRECIATE YOUR BRINGING THIS
ACR FORWARD ABSOLUTELY IN FULL
SUPPORT AND I THINK THAT IT
RECOGNIZES THE RICH TAPESTRY OF
OUR COMMUNITY AND OF THE MANY
CONTRIBUTIONS OF THE VIETNAMESE
COMMUNITY SO VERY MUCH LOOKING
FORWARD TO SEEING THE SIGN ON
THE HIGHWAY ONE DAY. THANK YOU
WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE. ONLY
ASK FOR IAGO AND WHIP APPRECIATE
YOUR SUPPORT. WE HAVE A MOTION
AND A SECOND ROLL CALL PLEASE
ACR SEVENTY ONE TO BE ADOPTED.
FRIEDMAN HI FRIEDMAN I FONG.
FONG I ALVAREZ YES OVER AND YES
BERMAN RIO RIO I DAVIS DAVIS I
GIPSON ART. ART I JACKSON
JACKSON AYE KALRA WHEN. WHEN I
SANCHEZ WALLACE. WALLACE FIVE
WARD. WICKS X. I. TEN. TEN TO
ZERO THAT BILL IS OUT THANK YOU
I'M GONNA PASSED THE GAVEL TO MY
VICE CHAIR. THANK YOU. WE'RE
GONNA GO TO FILE ITEM ELEVEN SB
EIGHT OH SIX BY SEN ARCH LETTER
. PLEASE PROCEED WHENEVER YOU'RE
READY.
MADAM CHAIRMAN OF ASSEMBLY
MEMBERS THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.
TODAY I AM A FIRST OFF I'M
ACCEPTING THE AMENDMENTS BY THE
COMMITTEE AND WE'RE GOING TO GO
FORWARD WITH ALL OF THEM AND I
WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN BY- ONCE
AGAIN THANK YOU EACH AND
EVERYONE OF YOU THIS IS BEEN A
COUPLE YEARS TO GET THIS
THROUGH. SENATE BILL EIGHT OH
SIX IS A CLEAN UP BILL THE LAST
YEAR'S SENATE BILL ELEVEN ELEVEN
THE RICK BEST SAFETY ACT MISTER
BEST WAS INVOLVED IN AN ACCIDENT
KILLED- BECAUSE YOU CAME THROUGH
A BLIND ALLEY AND RAN INTO WHAT
WE WILL CALL THAT DEPLETE
DUMPSTER NUMBER WE SHOULD CALL
THOSE WERE KIDS DEFEAT DUMPSTERS
BUT THE BIG TRUSTED THIS VENTURE
TO RAN INTO IT. AND HE WAS
KILLED AND THAT IS WITH THE NAME
OF THE BILL RATE BEST SAFETY ACT
WHICH REQUIRES LARGE TRASH
DUMPSTERS PLACED ON ROADS OR
CURBS THEY HAVE REFLECTIVE.
MARKINGS ON EACH SIDE. IF
MARKINGS SERVICES IMPORTANT
SAFETY MEASURE TO PREVENT
ACCIDENTS AND COLLISIONS
ESPECIALLY AT NIGHT DOWN DARK
ALLEYWAYS AND- LOW VISIBILITY.
AS YOU KNOW SOME OF THESE DRESS-
DUMPSTERS ARE LEFT- IN MIDDLE OF
THE ROAD THERE AND- THAT'S WHAT
THE PROBLEM IS. JOE WITHOUT
REFLECTIVE MARKETING LARGE TRASH
DUMPSTERS PLACED ON ROADWAYS OR
CURBS ARE VIRTUALLY INVISIBLE
UNDER DARK STREET. AT PRESENT
HAZARDS TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
SENATE BILL EIGHT OH SIX MAKES
MINOR CHANGES. TO ENSURE
INDUSTRY CANNOT AND HERE TO THE
REQUIREMENTS. OF SENATE BILL
ELEVEN ELEVEN. STUDIES HAVE
SHOWN THE DEFECTED LEFT OF
RETROREFLECTIVE MARKINGS TO
ENHANCE VISIBILITY AND TO
PROVIDE MOTORISTS WITH MORE TIME
TO BRAKE OR STEER AWAY FROM THE
POTENTIALLY HAZARDOUS AND THAT
INCLUDES. BICYCLE RIDERS- AND
THIS IS WHY. A CALIFORNIA
UTILIZES REFLECTORS MARC AGE ON
OUR ROADS TRAFFIC SIGNS
SUBMERGED VEHICLES. AND JOB AND
CHAIR I WOULD CONTINUE TO WORK
WITH THE INDUSTRY TO ENSURE
THAT- THAT- WE COMPLY WITH- WITH
THE AMENDMENTS. THAT MAKE SURE
THE BILL GETS OFF TO A GOOD
START AND OUT OF COMMITTEE. AND
I RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR AYE VOTE
. BUT THANK YOU SIR DO YOU I'M
SORRY I'M I'M LOOKING AT IT THIS
CHAIR AND I THOUGHT IT WAS MADAM
CHAIR I I'M SO SORRY NO WORRIES
NO WORRIES YET MOMENTO DI FONG
DO YOU HAVE ANYONE- TESTIFYING
IN SUPPORT OR NO I'M- OKAY GOT
THE BILL. PERFECT THE ANY
SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION AS BIGGER
IN SUPPORT PLEASE COME FORWARD.
PERSECUTORS HERE ON BEHALF OF
THE SOLID WASTE ASSOCIATION
NORTH AMERICA LEGISLATIVE TASK
FORCE THE CALIFORNIA CHAPTERS WE
JUST WANT TO. THANK THE SENATOR
FOR HIS WORK ON THIS BILL AND
WE'RE GOING TO BE IN SUPPORT
GIVEN THE AMENDMENTS AND
APPRECIATE HIS STAFF TIME IN
ORDER TO COMPLY WITH LAST YEAR'S
LAW. ENSURING THAT NOT ONLY IS
THE TAPE REFLECTORS THAT ARE ON
THE BILL AS AMENDED WERE.
EFFECTIVE BUT ALSO COST
EFFECTIVE FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS
TO JUST APPRECIATE THAT AND FOR
TIME FOR COMPLIANCE- APPRECIATE
THE SENATOR. FOR HIS WORK ON
THIS THANK YOU AND COMMITTEE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYONE WHO
WANTS TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK
IN OPPOSITION- PLEASE GO FOR. WE
DON'T HAVE ANYONE LISTED BUT
WILL GIVE YOU THE TIME. OF
MICHAEL CAPRIO REPUBLIC SERVICES
HERE IN SUPPORT OF THE MEASURE
OF SUPPORT WITHOUT ANY
AMENDMENTS THANK YOU. THANK YOU
. ANYONE IN SUPPORT. IS ANYONE
IN SUPPORT- NOW ANYONE ELSE ALL
RIGHT NOW A POSITION. MISTER
CHAIR I THINK IT JOHN MOFFETT ON
THEY HAVE A WASTE MANAGEMENT I
THINK WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS THE
INDUSTRY. WE HAD AN OPPOSE
UNLESS AMENDED BEEN WORKING WITH
THE AUTHOR APPRECIATE THE
AMENDMENTS. AND ON BEHALF OF
WASTE MANAGEMENT WE TO LOOK
FORWARD TO REMOVING OUR
OPPOSITION ONCE THE AMENDMENTS-
THANK. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE
WILL NOW GO TO THE PHONES AND
WE'LL HEAR FROM ANYONE IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION- TO S. B.
IT IS SIX- OPERATOR PLEASE
PROCEED. HE WOULD LIKE TO
TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION
TO S. B. EIGHT ZERO SIX PLEASE
PRESS ONE ZERO AT THIS TIME. AND
WE DO HAVE A COMMENT COMING
THROUGH IT'LL JUST BE ONE MOMENT
PLEASE HOLD WHILE WE PROVIDE
THEM WITH THEIR LINE NUMBER.
RIGHT NOW WE WILL HEAR FROM LINE
AT SEVENTY SIX PLEASE GO AHEAD.
MISTER CHAIRMAN GRIGORY SELLS
ELOPE WITH THE W. P. S. S. ON
BEHALF OF THREE M. IN SUPPORT
THANK YOU. AND IT MISTER CHAIR
THERE ARE NO FURTHER COMMENT. I
THINK OPERATOR WILL NOW BRING IT
BACK TO THE COMMITTEE FOR ANY
MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. I
JUST HAVE A QUICK CLARIFICATION
QUESTION A QUESTION THAT YOU CAN
MAYBE ANSWER- IS CERTAINLY I MY
UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE BILL
THAT WAS PASSED THAT ESTABLISH
THIS- WOULD BE ENFORCED THROUGH
CODE ENFORCEMENT. ROUTE THIS
BILL WOULD- HAVE THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL AND LOCAL DISTRICT
ATTORNEYS ENFORCE THIS NEW LAW
WE'VE HEARD FROM FROM OTHER-
BILLS AND OTHER- COMMITTEES AB
THAT'S RESOURCES ARE STRETCHED
PRETTY THIN WHEN IT COMES TO
LOCAL DJS AND THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL- CAN CAN YOU KIND OF.
PROVIDE SOME BACKGROUND ON WHY
WOULD HAVE- YOU KNOW THE
DISTRICT ATTORNEY OR THE
ATTORNEY GENERAL AT THE
CALIFORNIA IN GENERAL- AND FORCE
TO PROSECUTE THIS VERSUS JUST
HAVING HER VOICE MAY COLLECT
THIS IDEA WELL WHAT IT IS IF
IT'S IF IT'S A FINE IN ITS- NOT
PUNITIVE WHICH A HUNDRED
DOLLARS. FOR THE FIRST OFFENSE
AS AN EXAMPLE- AND YOU HAVE
FOURTEEN DAYS TO CURE IT SO IF
YOU PUT THE- REFLECTORS ON
WITHIN THE FOURTEEN DAYS THERE
IS NO FIRE NO PUNITIVE ACTION
PERIOD. BUT IF YOU ARE
CONSISTENT THEN THE SECOND TIME
AROUND- TO FIVE HUNDRED DOLLAR
FINE IT IT IT GOES LIKE THAT BUT
THE DEFINES A BIG QUESTION THE
MONEY GOES TO ACCIDENT
PREVENTION AND ROAD SAFETY FUND.
AND JEWISH KEPT AWAY FROM. THE
YOU KNOW THAT PROSECUTION TYPE
OF THING GEN. I A LOT OF FINDING
THERE IS THE QUESTION IS NOT THE
FOR THE FINE PER SE IT'S THE
ENTITY DOESN'T FORCING IT. DOES
COOK IS LOCAL COUNTY CODE
ENFORCEMENT NOT ABLE TO DO IT OR
DID YOU MEAN SO I'M I'M
CONCERNED THAT WE WANT OUR
DISTRICT ATTORNEYS AND HE DID IN
THE ATTORNEY GENERAL TO GO
AFTER. YES YEAH WELL CRIMINALS I
THINK I THINK FROM THE CITIES
THAT WE'VE TALKED TO. THEIR CODE
ENFORCEMENT WOULD BE ABLE TO
NOTIFY THE PROPRIETORS WHOEVER
IT IS THAT THEY'RE THE
COMPANIES. AND SO THEY CAN
COMPLY WITH THE LAW AND IF YOU
HEARD THE MAJOR ONES ARE GOING
TO DO IT. EVERYBODY JUMPED IN
TO- DO THE RIGHT THING. AND IT'S
JUST SIMPLE THE TAPES AROUND THE
DUMPSTERS THAT'S IT. AND ONCE
THEY'RE NOTIFIED THEY GOT
FOURTEEN DAYS TO DO IT SO WE'RE
JUST TRYING TO BE PUNITIVE. IF
YOU HAVE TO BE. BUT NOT
NECESSARILY BECAUSE. IT'S SUCH A
SIMPLE FIX. OKAY I APPRECIATE
THE EFFORT I JUST LOOKING SIR
ABOUT THE- HAVING STE ALREADY
STRETCHED THIN D. A. YEAH- YOU
KNOW GOING- YOU KNOW. YEAH
NUMBER THAT ARE PUTTING
REFLECTIVE TAPE. OTHER UNDER
UNDER IT WHEN IT WHEN IT COULD
FORCE MAKE. IT A DO IF THE
GOVERNMENT AND DOING OUR JOB I
GUESS I GUESS I GUESS AND MAYBE
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I GUESS
ANOTHER QUESTION SO. I THAT
THAT'S I THINK ONE THAT
CLARIFIED- WITH THAT NO OTHER
QUESTIONS WE'VE MOTION SECOND
UNANSWERED PLEASE CALL. SB EIGHT
OH SIX DEEP. AMENDED AND RE
REFER TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS FRIEDMAN FONG.
FONG NO ALVAREZ HI HOWEVER AS I
BERMAN CARILLO. RIO I DAVIES.
DAVIES I GIPSON. ART ART I
JACKSON. JACKSON I KALRA WHEN.
WHEN I SANCHEZ. WALLACE WALLACE
I WORK. WICKS HI. HE THAT'S THE
BOTH THE EIGHTY ONE WILL LEAVE
THE ROLE OPENED UP. OF THE WEST
CENTER VERY GOOD THANK YOU
MISTER THANK YOU OF. A MISTER
DALI. WHEN I MOVED YOUR BILL AS
SENATOR PLEASE PROCEED WHENEVER
YOU'RE READY. THANK YOU MR
CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS- AND WILL
WE TAKE THE COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS
I WANNA FIRST START BY THANKING.
THE COMMITTEE CONSULTED FOR A
DOING A LOT OF WORK ON MY BILL
AND HELP ME OUT WITH THE BILL
THE BILL BASICALLY. ALLOWS
CALIFORNIA CHP TO. DEVELOP A
HEAD COVERING FOR THOSE PEOPLE
WHO HAVE- BELIEVES TWO- FOR SUCH
AS LIKE A TURBAN OR PADDOCK- FOR
THEIR RELIGIOUS BELIEFS TO BUILD
RIDE A MOTORCYCLE- THIS BILL
WILL ALLOW THE CHP IN CALIFORNIA
TO. HELP COMPANIES- BASICALLY
DEVELOP THAT AND- WITH THEIR DOT
PROFIS PROCESSES FOR WITHOUT I
ASKED FOR I BUT WE DO HAVE SOME
WITNESSES HERE TODAY- THERE WILL
BE A JUST A- ARE YOU KNOW THAT
THEY SHOWED UP AT. HER
SUPPORTING BILL. I THANK YOU
SENATOR. IF ANY OF THE WITNESSES
WANT TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK
IN SUPPORT- PLEASE COME FORWARD
WILL CERTAINLY GIVE YOU THE TIME
. GOOD AFTERNOON HONORABLE HERE
AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS MYSELF
MONDAY EVENING. I'M A
BUSINESSMAN PLANNING
COMMISSIONERS AND MUSCIDAE. AND
THE ONLY BE HELPFUL FOR OVERSEE
CONOR DEAN I WILL COME THE
AMENDMENT AND- WE ARE IN SUPPORT
OF THE- THAT THANK YOU. I THANK
VERY MUCH A NEW ADDITIONAL-
INDIVIDUALS IN THE PUBLIC THAT
WANT TO COME FORWARD AND
SUPPORT. PLEASE COME FORWARD TO
STATE YOUR NAME AND ORGANIZATION
AND POSITION. HELLO EVERYBODY MY
NAME IS PAUL RENDER MY HERO FROM
YUBA CITY CALIFORNIA I'M IN
SUPPORT OF THIS BILL THANK YOU.
I THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HELLO
EVERYONE MY NAME IS DEEP SAYING
I'M FROM DIVERSITY AND SUPPORT
THIS BILL. THANK YOU. GOOD
EVENING EVERYONE MIND OF SATNAM
SINGH PUT YUBA CITY CALIFORNIA-
OBVIOUSLY COMMITTEE. ARE
STRONGLY SUPPORTED. BAIL EIGHT
FORTY SEVEN AND- WHY WOULD YOU
CALL SAW LIKE THE FOR THE- THIS
IS GONNA MARC CLIP COM LETTERMAN
. I THANK YOU. HI MY NAME IS A
GOOD JOB ON THE GOLAN FROM
CASTRO VALLEY AND I'M STRONGLY
SUPPORTING THIS BILL. MY NAME IS
JACK DOSING- FROM FRESNO
STRONGLY SUPPORTING THE BILL. MY
NAME IS ARE THE CONSUL CHOPRA
FROM IRVINE. I AM IN SUPPORT OF
THIS BILL BUT HE WAS GOT
CONSUMMATED IF YOU'VE HAD. THANK
YOU. NAMES CABLE SAYING I'M FROM
INDICA AS PROMISED PORTIONS BEEN
. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I DO WE
HAVE ANYONE HERE IN OPPOSITION.
SEEING NONE WILL GO TO THE
PHONES OPERATOR PLEASE OPEN THE
PHONE LINES FOR ANYONE WHO WANTS
TO- STATE THEIR POSITION ON SB.
EIGHT FOUR SEVEN. TO TESTIFY IN
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO S. B.
EIGHT FOUR SEVEN PLEASE PRESS.
ONE ZERO. MISTER CHAIR WE HAVE
NO COMMENT I THANK YOU MR ROBERT
WILL BRING BACK TO THE COMMITTEE
WITH FOR ANYONE THAT HAS ANY
QUESTIONS. CENA AND WE HAVE A
MOTION AND SECOND I OFFER IS THE
OPPORTUNITY CLOSE RESPECTFULLY
ASK FOR AN AYE VOTE. ALL RIGHT
MEDICAID PLEASE CALL THE ROLL SB
EIGHT FOUR SEVEN IS TO PASS AND
BE REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS FRIEDMAN FONG.
FONG AYE ALVAREZ AYE HOWEVER AYE
BERMAN RIO RIO I'D DAVIES DAVIES
I GIPSON ART. ART I JACKSON
JACKSON I KALRA WHEN I SANCHEZ.
WALLACE WALLACE I WARD WICKS.
WICKS I FRIEDMAN. FRIEDMAN I. AT
TEN ZERO BELIEVE THE ROLE OPEN.
I THINK WE'LL HEADED BACK OVER
TO THE CHAIR FOR THE LAST THAT.
THANK YOUR LAST ITEM IS SB SEVEN
TWENTY SENATOR STERN YOU MAY
PROCEED WHEN YOU'RE READY. THANK
YOU MA'AM CHAIR THANK YOU
MEMBERS FOUR AND TAKEN A LOOK AT
THIS BILL I APPRECIATE YOUR
GRANTING A RECONSIDERATION AND-
I'M HOPING WE'VE GOT WE'RE
PRODUCT BEFORE YOU HEAR THAT
FEELS MORE COMPLETE THOROUGH AND
A LOT OF THE OUTSTANDING
QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL HAD LAST
WEEK. HAVE BEEN ANSWERED JUST
BRIEFLY GO THROUGH THEM IN THIS
BILLS ABOUT STABLE AVIATION BOTH
THE INCENTIVE PROGRAM AS WELL AS
REPORTING REQUIREMENTS TO GET
THOSE INCENTIVES. I'M THERE WAS
A QUESTION ABOUT WHAT AIRPORTS
ARE INCLUDED OR NOT INCLUDED.
THERE ARE SIX THAT ARE CURRENTLY
INCLUDED SO THAT DOES NOT
INCLUDE- SACK EXECUTIVE AIRPORT
AND ASSEMBLY MEMBER WINS
DISTRICT AS WELL AS PALO ALTO
THE SUMMER BERMAN'S DISTRICT- SO
IT IS JUST A LIST OF SIX AT THIS
POINT HOPEFULLY THAT'S CLEAR. WE
ALSO CLARIFIED AND ADDED
FLEXIBILITY THE REPORTING
OBLIGATIONS AFTER TAKING
FEEDBACK FROM THE OPPOSITION SO
THERE'S NO NO NO LONGER A NET
ZERO REQUIREMENT IN THE
REPORTING. THERE IS NO LONGER AN
AIR DISTRICT ENFORCEMENT PIECE
WHICH MADE MANY UNCOMFORTABLE.
AND THERE'S A CLEAR
SPECIFICATION THE AMENDMENTS
THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU THAT.
CAN USE OFF THE SHELF REPORTS SO
THAT COULD BE THIRD PARTY
REPORTING AN EXISTING
SUSTAINABILITY REPORT AND IN
TALKING TO MEANT. MANY OF YOUR
AIRPORTS- THEY'VE GOT THOSE ON
THE SHELF SO IT SHOULDN'T BE AN
ADDED. BURDEN AND THEN LASTLY WE
BUILT OUT INCENTIVE FRAMEWORK IT
GO BIZ THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM
INDUSTRY WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO
THEM. AND SO- GOT A LARGE GROUP
OF STAKEHOLDERS I DO WANT TO
SPECIFY- RIGHT NOW THE
ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS ARE NOT.
LISTED AMONGST THOSE BUT WE'RE
WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO- CONSIDER.
ADDING THEM- AB TO ANSWERING
FURTHER YOU MAY HAVE BUT-
HOPEFULLY THAT EARNS YOUR
SUPPORT AND- DO APPRECIATE THE
TIME WITH ME I'VE GOT- ENERGY
SEE HERE- WISHIN TESTIFYING
SUPPORT A KIKI VELEZ AND- THAT'S
IT. HI. I KNOW IT'S NOT UNDER
GOING TO COME AND HELP YOU. THE
PROBLEM. OH NO OKAY. HI GOOD
AFTERNOON- THANKS FOR YOUR TIME
TODAY MY NAME IS KIKI FELLAS I'M
A CLEAN ENERGY ADVOCATE WITH THE
NATURAL RESOURCES DEFENSE
COUNCIL. ON SB SEVEN TWENTY WILL
TACKLE AVIATION EMISSIONS AND
POSITION CALIFORNIA AS A LEADER
IN SUSTAINABLE AVIATION
TECHNOLOGY STARTING WITH
AIRPORTS AND SOME OF THOSE.
COMMUNITIES MOST BURDENED BY AIR
POLLUTION. IN THE U. S.
EMISSIONS FROM DOMESTIC FLIGHTS
ALONE- ARE PULLING TO EACH
PERSON DRIVING AN EXPEDITION OR
THOUSAND MILES PER YEAR. SO PUT
SIMPLY TO TACKLE CLIMATE CHANGE
WE NEED TO ADDRESS EMISSIONS
FROM AIRCRAFT. THAT CLEAN TECH
INNOVATION IS IN VERY EARLY
STAGES FOR AVIATION AND OFTEN
FALLS BETWEEN THE CRACKS IN
TERMS OF GOVERNMENTS TAKING
RESPONSIBILITY FOR FINDING
SOLUTIONS TO REDUCE THESE
EMISSIONS. THIS BILL WILL FOSTER
INNOVATION IN STABLE AVIATION
TECHNOLOGIES IN CALIFORNIA
MAKING CALIFORNIA COMPANIES THE
LEADERS IN THIS EMERGING MARKET
. DO SO THIS BILL ASKS LARGE
AIRPORTS AND DISADVANTAGED
COMMUNITIES TO DEVELOP
GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS
REPORTING IT DIRECTS GOBIZ TO
FRY TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE IN
SUPPORT OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF
SUSTAINABLE AVIATION
TECHNOLOGIES TO HELP AIRPORTS
REDUCE THEIR MISSIONS. IN PART
THIS BILL- IN PARTICULAR THIS
BILL IMPACTS AIRPORT WITH SOME
OF THE HIGHEST FLOWS OF PRIVATE
JETS. PRIVATE JETS PRODUCED FIVE
TO FOURTEEN TIMES MORE POLLUTION
THE- PASSENGER AND COMMERCIAL
PLANES. WITH AVERAGE PRIVATE JET
BURNING AROUND FIVE THOUSAND
GALLONS OF FUEL PER HOUR WHICH
IS EQUIVALENT TO ABOUT FOUR
HUNDRED PASSENGER CARS IN THE
SAME TIME- NATIONALLY PRIVATE
JETS ACCOUNT FOR ABOUT A QUARTER
OF ALL FLIGHTS. TAKEN IN THIS IS
APPROXIMATELY TWICE THEIR PRE
PANDEMIC LEVELS SO THIS OPULENT
INDUSTRY IS ON THE RISE AND AS
IT INCREASES ITS IMPACTS ON AIR
QUALITY IN THE CLIMATE ARE ONLY
GROWING. AFFLUENT WHO CAN AFFORD
THESE FLIGHTS DON'T LIVE IN
DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES BUT
THEY LEAVE THEIR POLLUTION THERE
FOR COMMUNITIES TO BREED. SB
SEVEN TWENTY WILL BEGIN TO
ADDRESS AARON CLIMATE EMISSIONS
FROM AVIATION STARTING WITH
THESE MOST DAMAGING FLIGHTS IN
YOUR TIME- I THOUGHT. THANK YOU
PERFECT. I IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE
IN THE ROOM WISHING TO TESTIFY
IN SUPPORT OF SB SEVEN TWENTY.
OKAY IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO
TESTIFY IN OPPOSITION TO SB
SEVEN TWENTY. IF THE ARM UP
PRIMARY OPPOSITION WITNESSES
WILL COME UP TO THE TABLE PLEASE
YOU EACH HAVE TWO MINUTES.
GOOD AFTERNOON MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS JIM LIGHTS ON BEHALF OF-
TO AIRPORT ORGANIZATIONS THAT
HAVE AIRPORTS CAPTURED BY THIS
BILL CALIFORNIA AIRPORTS COUNCIL
IN THE ASSOCIATION OF CALIFORNIA
AIRPORTS- OVER THE LAST WEEK
SINCE THIS BILL WAS HEARD. A
COUPLE OF AIRPORTS HAVE HAD AN
OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK
DIRECTLY TO THE AUTHOR- IF I CAN
HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THAT- COUPLE
OF THE AIRPORTS NOTED THAT THE
NEW REPORTING REQUIREMENTS
ACTUALLY. DOESN'T DO ANYTHING TO
ADVANCE THEIR ENVIRONMENTAL OR
SUSTAINABILITY AGENDA BUT IN
FACT WOULD TAKE STAFF RESOURCES
AWAY FROM THOSE ENDEAVORS. TO
WORK ON THIS REPORT AND SO FOR
THOSE REASONS WE REMAIN IN
OPPOSITION I WOULD NOTE THAT FOR
THE OFF THE SHELF REPORTS THAT
THE AUTHOR MENTION. THOSE ARE
ALSO ON AIRPORT WEBSITES AND SO
IF WE IF WE CAN ACCESS THOSE BY
GOING TO THE WEBSITE WE
CERTAINLY THINK THAT THAT CAR
BUT CAN ALSO. AND DON'T SEE WHY
WE WOULD HAVE THEM TRANSMIT A
REPORT THAT'S ALREADY WRITTEN TO
CARVE THAT EVERYONE HAS ACCESS
TO SO AGAIN FOR THOSE REASONS WE
THINK THIS SHOULD BE A TO YOUR
BILL. THANK YOU NEXT WITNESS.
THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR ABRIL
TRICKLING HALF OF AIRLINES FOR
AMERICA. THE VISITING ALL THE
MAJOR AIRLINES AND FREIGHT
CARRIERS AS I STATED AT THE
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE HEARING ALSO
UNFORTUNATELY REMAIN OPPOSED- WE
HAVE. TALKED TO THE AUTHOR AND
STAFF ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS IN
YOUR STEP AS WELL MADAM CHAIR.
OUR CONCERN LIES IN A COUPLE OF
FACTORS FIRST AND FOREMOST. MUCH
OF THE ACTUALLY ALL OF OUR
MISSIONS IS REQUIRED TO BE
REPORTED TO THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT. ON A ON A VERY
CONSISTENT BASIS IN THIS WE
THINK THIS BILL IS. A LITTLE BIT
TYPICAL OF ANYTHING THAT
REQUIRES AIRPORTS REPORT
EMISSIONS WELL. IN OF ITSELF
RESULT IN EMISSIONS REQUIREMENTS
REPORTING REQUIREMENTS TO THE
AIRLINES OF- WE CONTROL THAT'S
ONE OF OUR CONCERNS. THE SECOND
ISSUE IS. THAT SOME WOULD THINK
THIS IS PREEMPTED ANYWAY UNDER
FEDERAL LAW BECAUSE OF THE
FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS. WE SHOULD
ALL OF THE EFFORTS FROM THE
AUTHOR AND STAFF AND- JUST AS MR
LEGISLATIVE. THANKS PROBABLY TO
YOUR BILLS WILL THANK YOU. THANK
YOU IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE
ROOM WISHING TO TESTIFY IN
OPPOSITION. SB SEVEN TWENTY. SEE
NON OPERATOR CAN YOU PLEASE OPEN
THE PHONE LINES WERE WITNESSES
IN. SUPPORT AND IN OPPOSITION TO
SENATE BILL SEVEN TWENTY. TO
TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION
TO SB SEVEN TWENTY. PLEASE PRESS
ONE ZERO AT THIS TIME. AND WE DO
HAVE A COUPLE COMMENTS COMING
THROUGH JUST BE ONE MOMENT
PLEASE. AND FIRST WE WILL HEAR
FROM LINE TEN PLEASE GO AHEAD.
YES THIS IS A PAGE TURNER ON
BEHALF OF THE NATIONAL AIR
TRANSPORTATION ASSOCIATION
RESPECTFULLY OPPOSE SB. SEVEN
TWENTY. AND THE LINE A ONE FORTY
EIGHT. THIS IS ROGER LYNN WITH
THE CENTER FOR BIOLOGICAL
DIVERSITY SUPPORTS ALL SEVEN
TWENTY. AND MADAM CHAIR THERE
ARE NO FURTHER COMMENT. OKAY
WITH THAT WILL TAKE YOU BACK TO
THE COMMITTEE FOR QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS THE STATUS. YES A
QUESTION FOR THE OPPOSITION IS
SAN DIEGO INTERNATIONAL ARE THEY
STILL OPPOSE IN THIS. THEY DO
NOT HAVE THEIR OWN POSITION THEY
ARE IN SUPPORT OF THE
ASSOCIATION'S POSITION IN
OPPOSITION. ANYONE ELSE.
AFTERWARD. THANK YOU I WANT TO
THANK THE AUTHOR FOR A AND YOUR
STOP TAKING TIME TO TALK TO MY
OFFICE OVER THE LAST WEEK- WAS
NOT- REALLY COMPELLED- THE LAST
TIME THIS CAME BEFORE COMMITTEE
TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THIS AND
CERTAINLY RESONATE A LOT OF
CONCERNS THAT. THAT THAT- CAME
FROM AIRPORTS IN OUR REGION-
THAT- WEREN'T REALLY SEEING WHAT
THE OUTCOME OF THIS WOULD BE AND
WHETHER OR NOT THAT WAS SORT OF
BATCH THE INTENDED BENEFITS THAT
WE DO AGREE ON NEED TO BE.
AFFORDED TO- THE SURROUNDING
COMMUNITIES THAT ARE IMPACTED BY
I HARMFUL- ENVIRONMENTAL- TOXINS
AND FUEL- ONE OF THE SIX WE WERE
I THINK HOWEVER LAST
CONVERSATION LAST NAME IS
COMMITTEE ABOUT EXACTLY HOW
MANY. AIRPORTS WERE GOING TO BE
AFFECTED I THINK THAT THAT MIGHT
HAVE GOTTEN A LITTLE BIT MORE
CLARITY OVER THE LAST WEEK IS.
HE REALLY LOOKED INTO THIS A
LITTLE BIT MORE BUT STILL ONE OF
THOSE IS ACTUALLY IN MY DISTRICT
IT'S ACTUALLY IN EASTERN SAN
DIEGO COUNTY GILLESPIE FIELD- SO
THIS ISN'T A MAJOR AIRPORT WITH
A WIDE ROBUST STAFF OPERATION
THAT CAN ABSORB ANOTHER.
REPORTING REQUIREMENTS- AND
FURTHERMORE WHETHER OR NOT THE
THRESHOLD THERE OF- FIFTY
THOUSAND TAKEOFFS IS SOMEHOW
AFFECTED BECAUSE OF ITS- ONE OF
ITS PRINCIPAL OPERATIONS IS TO
SERVE. A WIDE JURISDICTION IN
ALL OF EASTERN SAN DIEGO COUNTY
WITH FIREFIGHTING OPERATIONS
WITH ERROR- AND LYFT. LIFE
SUPPORT SYSTEMS- WITH PUBLIC
SAFETY- TAKE OFFS- WHICH
TRAINING- SO IT'S ONE OF THE FEW
AIRPORTS THAT WE HAVE THAT
PROVIDE FOR GENERAL AVIATION
TRAINING AS WELL WHICH IS A
WHICH IS A GREAT NOT TO BE ABLE
TO GROW- CELL I. WANT TO BE
PARTICULARLY SENSITIVE. ABOUT
BEING A CONSTITUENT AIRPORT.
EARLENE OUTLINE WITHIN THIS BILL
ON THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE
SOMETHING AT THE END OF THIS-
BILLS LIFESPAN THAT THAT'S GOING
TO BE A BENEFIT THAT THAT WILL
NOT BE JUST AN EXERCISE FOR
THEM. AND A COSTLY WANTED THAT-
BUT THAT ACTUALLY IS GOING TO BE
ABLE TO ACHIEVE SOME KIND OF
POSITIVE BENEFIT TO THE
SURROUNDING COMMUNITY. SO WHAT
CAN YOU SEE THE MEANS. HELP ME.
TELL MY DISTRICT I'M WILLING TO
SEE THIS MOVE FORWARD. THAT IS
GOING TO BE ABLE TO BENEFIT. MY
COMMUNITY WITHOUT IMPOSING
UNNECESSARILY- TASKS ON THIS
AIRPORT. THANKS FOR THE QUESTION
IN YOUR REPRESENTATION OF. OF
THE COMMUNITY AND- IN GLASS
PLEASE SOMEONE UNIQUE AMONGST
THE REMAINING AIRPORTS IN THE
BILL IN THAT. THERE IS A VERY
HIGH INCIDENCE OF TRAINING- FOR
A QUICK TOUCHDOWN TAKE OFFS- I
BELIEVE THERE'S A MILITARY USE
ACTUALLY AT THE AIRPORT AS WELL
AS CAL FIRE- SO WHEN WE WERE
THINKING ABOUT THE FIFTY
THOUSAND TAKE OFFS THRESHOLD IN
GENERAL WE WEREN'T THINKING
ABOUT. FIRE FIGHTING- OR EVEN
TRAINING IN PARTICULAR RIGHT IT
WAS. COMMERCIAL AVIATION AND
GENERAL AVIATION. I'M SO IF
THAT'S HELPFUL TO TAKE A SECOND
LOOK AT THAT. WHAT IS THE ANNUAL
TAKE OFF AND WHAT SHOULD AND
SHOULDN'T BE IN THAT DEFINITION
WERE OPEN TO- CONSIDERING SOME
OF THOSE CHANGES THE OTHER THING
I WOULD JUST SAY IS. TALKING THE
AIRPORT I HAVEN'T SAT DOWN CLASS
BE IT I SET DOWN IN DETAIL SAN
DIEGO INTERNATIONAL SO I WAS
REALLY EYE OPENING AND WE
ACTUALLY. MADE IT SO THEY COULD
OPT INTO THE BILL IF THEY WANT
THE INCENTIVES I'M SO THEY'RE
NOT EXCLUDED BUT THEY'RE NOT.
THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED. WITH GLASS
B. IF IT'S USEFUL TO THEM TO BE.
TO GET SAY ACCESS TO ELECTRIC
INFRASTRUCTURE UPGRADES- THE
KIND OF EXPERIMENTING IS GOING
ON AROUND SAY EVEY TOLD SOME OF
THE ELECTRIC. ELECTRICAL
VERTICAL TAKE OFF IF THEY WANT
TO BE ANY INCENTIVE PROCESS AND
IT COULD WORK FROM A SHOULD TAKE
A LOOK AT. THESE NEW AMENDMENTS
AND SEE IF THOSE ARE. APPEALING
AT. A BECAUSE THEY'RE UNIQUE
UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCE I'M I'M OPEN
ALSO TO. SORT OF LOOKING AT THAT
. ANNUAL TAKEOFF DEFINITION AND
- A BATTLE HELP. AND I AND I
WOULD LIKE TO BUILD I WOULD.
LIKE THAT TO BE WORKED ON. I
COULD HAVE A CHANCE TO VOTE ON
THIS ON THE FLOOR FORCES ALSO
COMING IN NATURAL RESOURCES
SHOULD MAKE IT OUT OF THIS
COMMITTEE OF WHICH I ALSO SAID-
JUST NEXT WEEK SO THIS DOES
FEEL. LIKE YOU'RE TRYING TO
ACHIEVE SOMETHING REALLY
IMPORTANT- IN IN AN EXPEDITED
TIMELINE OVER THE SUMMER PERIOD
OF COURSE OF THE SUMMER RECESS-
TO BE ABLE TO WORK ON THE FINAL
DETAILS AND I ALWAYS HAVE THE
RIGHT TO PRESERVE VOTE. ON THE
FLOOR AT THAT TIME- I'D LIKE TO
BE ABLE TO SUPPORT STAY GOING
FOR BUT I WANT TO HEAR LOUD AND
CLEAR. THAT BECAUSE OF THE VERY
SPECIFIC IMPACTED IT'S ARE GOING
TO HAVE TO MY DISTRICT- THAT
THAT I WANT TO BE ABLE TO SEE A
NET. BENEFIT HERE FOR THE
INTENDED- GOALS OF THE BILL-
VERSES THE- EXERCISE THAT IT'S-
REQUIRING- AND DUG IN AND GIVEN
YOU KNOW THE SIZE AND THE SCOPE
OF A SMALL. FIELD THAT'S IN CAT
THAT'S- THAT'S- CAPTURED. BY THE
IMPACT OF THIS BILL- AND HAVE TO
WORK CLOSELY WITH YOU ON THAT
TOO IT'S JUST YOU HAVE MY
COMMITMENT THERE. THANK YOU YEAH
MIKE. THANK YOU OTHER COME
MEMBERS. NO ONE ELSE. WELL I
REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR PASSION
FOR THE SUBJECT AND I KNOW THAT
YOU'RE VERY. INTERESTED INDEED
TRYING TO HELP- PUSHED THE
INDUSTRY TOWARDS
DECARBONISATION. AND ALSO TO
PROTECT THE AIR QUALITY AND THE
SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES MANY OF
WHICH ARE HEAVILY IMPACTED. BY
THE AIRPORTS. AND I HEAR YOU
ALSO ABOUT THE IMPACT OF THE
PRIVATE JET. TRAVEL AND THE
GROWTH OF THAT NINE OF THAT'S
BEEN AN ISSUE WE'VE HEARD ABOUT
QUITE A BIT IN LOS ANGELES AS
WELL. I'M I'M I'LL BE SUPPORTING
YOUR BILL TODAY I KNOW THAT YOU
HAVE A LOT OF STAKEHOLDERS- TO
DEAL WITH AND I DO TRUST THAT
YOU WILL BE. A CERTAINLY TALKING
WITH THEM AND YOU KNOW LISTENING
TO THEIR THOUGHTS ABOUT WHAT
WOULD HELP THEM AND WHAT YOU
KNOW WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT
WOULD BE UNHELPFUL AND BE
HARMFUL TO THEIR EFFORTS. AND I
TRUST THAT YOU WOULD BE DOING
THAT GOING FORWARD SO I'M HAPPY
TO SUPPORT YOUR BILL TODAY WOULD
YOU LIKE TO CLOSE. AT APPRECIATE
THE TRUST AND YOU HAVE MY
COMMITMENT AND THAT AND I AND I.
APPRECIATE THE HOURS THE
OPPOSITION'S ALREADY SPENT WITH
MY OFFICE AND WE'RE GONNA KEEP
PUT IN THAT TIME TO SEE IF WE
CAN. LAND THIS PLANE. THAT
RESPECTFULLY ASK RIVAL OKAY
CLEAR ROLL CALL PLEASE. WE NEED
A MOTION THE SECOND. IT WAS
UPON. MY CHANGE YOUR YOUR VOTE
THIS POINT BUT WE HAVE A MOTION
AND A SECOND. SB SEVEN TWENTY
TWO PASSES AMENDED AND RE REFER
TO THE COMMITTEE ON NATURAL
RESOURCES FRIEDMAN HI FRIEDMAN
AYE FONG. FONG NO ALVAREZ.
ALVAREZ YES BERMAN CARILLO. RIO
DAVIES. DAVIES NO. GIPSON ART.
ART I JACKSON'S HEIGHT JACKSON I
KALRA WHEN. NOT VOTING. SANCHEZ
SANCHEZ NO WALLACE. WALLACE NO
WORD. WORD I WICKES. WICKES I.
SEVEN FOUR SEVEN TO FOUR WE'RE
GONNA LEAVE THE ROLE OPEN. WE'RE
GONNA NOW- TAKE A MOTION FOR THE
CONSENT CALENDAR. WHERE MOST OF
THE SECOND ROLL CALL PLEASE
CONSENT CALENDAR FRIEDMAN HI
FRIEDMAN I FONG. FONG I ALVAREZ
ALVAREZ YES BERMAN. CARILLO I.
DAVIES DAVIES I GIPSON. ART ART
I JACKSON JACKSON III KALRA WHEN
I SANCIOUS VENTURES I WALLACE
WALLACE I WARD WORD I WICKS
WIXII. TWELVE TO ZERO THE
CONSENT CALENDAR IS ADOPTED AND
WE NOW GO BACK TO THE TOP AND
RUN THROUGH THE ROLES FOR ABSENT
MEMBERS. YOU KNOW WHAT A- WE'LL
GO AHEAD AND CALL AND WE CAN
ALWAYS DO IT AGAIN. STARTING ON
SB TWO THREE THREE D. PASS AND
REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
UTILITIES AND ENERGY GIPSON
KALRA SANCHEZ SANCHEZ NO.
WALLACE WALLACE NO. SEVEN TO
FORMALLY THE ROLE OPEN. GOING TO
SB FIVE THREE TWO WIENER TO PASS
AND RE REFER TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS ALVAREZ ALVAREZ
YES. BERMAN GIPSON KALRA SANCHEZ
SANCHEZ NO WARD- LOOK AT WORK- I
HAVE EIGHT. OKAY WALLACE WALLACE
NO. FOR IT TO FOR THAT BILL IS
OUT WILL BE THE ROLE OPEN. SB
FIVE THREE EIGHT DO PASS AND
REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS ALVAREZ ALVAREZ
YES BERMAN. GIPSON KALRA SANCHEZ
. THIS IS SB FIVE THREE EIGHT.
NOT VOTING AND ZERO AND ZERO
THAT BILL IS OUT WILL LEAVE THE
ROLE OPEN. MOVING TO S. B. EIGHT
ZERO SIX HE PASSES AMENDED AND
RE REFER TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS FRIEDMAN HI
FRIEDMAN I BERMAN. THIS IS SB
SIX UP BERMAN IS AN AYE GIPSON.
KALRA SANCHEZ SANCHEZ NO. AND
WARD. BUT I HEAR WARD I. NINE
ONE SEVEN. ELEVEN TO TWO ON THAT
ONE ELEVEN TO THAT BILL IS OUT
WILL LEAVE THE ROLE OPEN. GOING
BACK. FOR WE'RE GOING BACK TO SB
SEVEN TEN. HAS BEEN REFERRED TO
THE COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
ALVAREZ ALVAREZ YES BERMAN
BERMAN I GIPSON. KALRA ALL RIGHT
I SANCHEZ SANCHEZ I HAVE
FOURTEEN. FOURTEEN ZERO THAT
PHYLLIS OUT. IS THERE SEVENTY
ONE. ACR SEVENTY ONE TO BE
ADOPTED BERMAN. BERMAN I GIPSON
. KALRA FOUR I SANCHEZ SANCHEZ I
WARD. WORD I. FOURTEEN ZERO
FOURTEEN ZERO THE RESOLUTION IS
ADOPTED. I HAVEN'T. I HAVE. ONE
OKAY SB SEVEN TWENTY TWO PASSES
AMENDED AND RE REFER TO THE
COMMITTEE ON NATURAL RESOURCES
BERMAN. OF STERN STERN I. GIPSON
KALRA ALL RIGHT I. NINETY FOUR
THAT BILL IS OUT LET'S GO BACK
FOR MISTER KALRA. SB TWO THREE
THREE ALL RIGHT ALL RIGHT I.
YEAH EIGHT OR EIGHT TO FOUR THAT
BILL IS OUT. SB FIVE THREE TWO.
BERMAN NOT VOTING GIPSON KALRA.
ALL RIGHT I HAVE NINE FOUR
NINETY FOUR THAT GOES OUT. SB
FIVE THREE EIGHT. BERMAN BERMAN
AYE KALRA ALL RIGHT I HAVE
TWELVE ZERO FIVE ZERO THAT BILLS
OUT. SB EIGHT OH SIX. GIPSON
KALRA. ALL RIGHT I HAVE. TWELVE
TO. OF THE TWO WELL THE TO THE
BILL IS OUT. S. B. EIGHT FOUR
SEVEN BERMAN BERMAN I. GIPSON
GIPSON I KALRA ALL RIGHT I
SANCHEZ. GOING TO SPREAD THE
WORD WORD BY FOURTEEN- FOURTEEN
IS HERE THAT BILL IS OUT. ACR
SEVENTY ONE GIPSON. GIPSON I
FIFTEEN- A BILLS OUT OF. OKAY.
SB TWO THREE THREE GIPSON. HEY
WERE PASSED THE TIME FOR
QUESTIONS SO IT'S EITHER I OR
NOT I. OKAY THANK YOU. HI OKAY I
HAVE NINE FOUR NINETY FOUR THE
BILL'S HOUSE THANK YOU. WHICH IS
- YES YOU'RE GOOD ON SEVEN TEN-
YES. WELL LET'S KEEP LET'S WAIT
A SECOND LET'S GO THROUGH
WHATEVER WE STILL NEED MISTER
GIBSON'S VOTE ON AND THEN WE CAN
AND HE HASN'T VOTED ON THE
CONSENT CALENDAR EITHER SO WE'LL
WE'LL CALL THAT YOUR ROLE IF YOU
WERE NOT. OR IF YOU'RE NOT AT
REPORTERS AND I. OKAY HEY THIS
IS THE LAST TIME WE'RE DOING
ROLE SO WE'RE GONNA GONNA DO IT
NOW AND THAT'S IT I MIGHT LEAVE
AGAIN YOU'RE ON YOUR OWN. WANT
TO START BACK WITH SB FIVE
FIFTEEN OKAY SB FIVE THREE TWO.
GIPSON GIPSON I. AND THEN THE
FOR. END OF FOR A BILL IS OUT.
SB FIVE THREE EIGHT GIPSON
GIPSON I. ONCE THIRTEEN-
THIRTEEN TO ZERO. SB EIGHT OH
SIX. I THINK GIPSON GIPSON I.
THIRTEEN TO TWO. SB EIGHT FOUR
SEVEN. SANCHEZ SANCHEZ I.
FIFTEEN ZERO- MARKET THERE. SB
SEVEN TWENTY GIPSON. GIPSON I
RIGHT AND THE FOR INSTANCE AND
CONSENT. CONSENT CALENDAR BERMAN
HI BERMAN I DAVIES OR NOT I'M
SORRY GIPSON GIPSON I KALRA
KALRA I. FIFTEEN ZERO FIFTEEN
ZERO OKAY THANK YOU ALL VERY
MUCH WAIT. MISTER GIBSON'S ON
SEVEN TEN. HI. THEY SHOULDN'T.
BE SEVEN TEN GIPSON I FIFTEEN
ZERO OKAY THANK YOU ALL VERY
MUCH THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED.