GOOD. I'M THANK YOU ALL FOR
BEING HERE TODAY- I WILL WELL I
WANT TO WELCOME YOU TO THE
JUDICIARY COMMITTEE MEETING- AND
AS A REMINDER EACH SIDE WILL BE
ALLOWED TO MAIN WITNESSES TWO
MINUTES EACH ADDITIONAL
WITNESSES SHOULD STATE THEIR
NAME AN ORGANIZATION ONLY THIS
ALLOWS ALL AUTHORS ARE FAIR
CHANCE TO PRESENT THEIR BILLS
AND ALL MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AN
EQUAL CHANCE TO HAVE THEIR
POSITION REFLECTED IN THE RECORD
AS WE PROCEED WITH OUR BILL
HEARING I JUST WANNA GO THROUGH
THE RULES I WANNA MAKE SURE WE
UNDERSTAND AND MAKE SURE SO
EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS OUR
COMMITTEE ROLES. TO ENSURE WE
MAINTAIN ORDER AND RUN A FAIR
AND EFFICIENT HEARING WITH THE
GOAL OF HEARING AS MUCH FROM THE
PUBLIC WITHIN THE LIMITS OF OUR
TIME THE RULES OF CONDUCT BY
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC INCLUDE NO
TALKING OR LOUD NOISES FROM THE
AUDIENCE PUBLIC COMMENT MAY BE
PROVIDED ONLY AT THE DESIGNATED
TIME AND MUST BE LIMITED TO YOUR
NAME ORGANIZATION IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION OF THE BILL. NO
ENGAGING IN CONDUCT THAT
DISRUPTS DISTURBS OR OTHERWISE
IMPEDES THE ORDERLY CONDUCT OF
THIS HEARING. NO ENGAGING IN
PERSONAL ATTACKS THE MEMBERS OF
THIS COMMITTEE AUTHORS OR STAFF.
PLEASE BE AWARE THAT VIOLATION
OF THESE RULES MAY SUBJECT YOU
TO REMOVE ALL OUR OTHER
ENFORCEMENT PROCESSES. AND JUST
AS A- KIND OF A SPECIAL ORDER
BUSINESSMAN SB THREE THIRTY ONE
IS CALLED- WERE FIVE. GONNA MAKE
A SPECIAL ACCOMMODATION- FOR
SUPPORT WITNESS TESTIMONY WE
RECEIVED A REQUEST TO ALLOW ONE
SUPPORT WITNESS TO TESTIFY BY
PHONE. AT AS A GENERAL RULE WE
HAVEN'T ALLOWED PHONE TESTIMONY
FOR WITNESSES BUT GIVEN THE
UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCES OF THE
WITNESS IN THIS CASE- THE
WITNESSES A MINOR WHO HAS
EXPRESSED CONCERN ABOUT THEIR
SAFETY AND WELFARE- THE
COMMITTEE HAS GRANTED- THIS ONE
TIME EXCEPTION TO THE RULE. WITH
THAT WE WILL BEGIN AS A
SUBCOMMITTEE WE DO NOT HAVE AN
AUTHOR HERE- SO I WOULD
ENCOURAGE. CENTER AMBERG. EGGMAN
RUBIO- DIRAJA GONZALO SMALLWOOD
CUEVAS. OR STERN TO PLEASE HEAD
OVER.
WELCOME CENTER EGGMAN YOU DON'T
EVEN DON'T EVEN HAVE TO SIT DOWN
JUST WALK STRAIGHT OVER THE
TABLE. WELCOME YOU HAVE TO.
MATTERS SB FORTY THREE- AND SB
TWO SIXTY SEVEN LET'S GO AND
START WITH SB FORTY THREE. SO
AND I JUST LIKE TO SAY GOOD
MORNING TO EVERYBODY AND THANK
YOU FOR HEARING THIS TODAY
THANKED THE COMMITTEE FOR THEIR
WORK ON THIS IN THE CHAIR FOR
HIS WORK ON THIS AND ALSO TO SAY
THIS IS NOT ONE PIECE OF
LEGISLATION THIS IS A CONTINUUM
OF CARE THAT WE'VE BEEN
CONSISTENTLY WORKING ON OVER THE
LAST DECADE. REALLY TRYING TO I
WAS LISTENING ON MY WAY IN THIS
MORNING AT JONI MITCHELL BOTH
SIDES NOW. AND I THINK WE SEE
BOTH SIDES NOW I THINK WE HAD A
LOT OF GOOD IDEAS YEARS AND
YEARS AGO- AND I THINK WHAT
WE'VE SEEN NOW ON OUR STREETS
AND IN OUR SYSTEM- IS A RESULT
OF AT ONE TIME NOT SEEING BOTH
SIDES OF EVERYTHING- AND WHEN WE
PASS LPS- BACK IN THE SIXTIES IT
WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO IS THE
BEST THING TO DO THAT'S NOT TO
KEEP PEOPLE INDEFINITELY
INSTITUTIONALIZED AT THE HIGHEST
LEVEL OF CARE. BUT WE WHAT WE DO
KNOW IS READING AN ARTICLE LAST
NIGHT FROM NINETEEN EIGHTY SEVEN
WHERE THEY SAID WE GOT IT WRONG
THIS IS NOT COMPASSIONATE- THAT
WE REALLY DIDN'T THINK ABOUT
WHEN WE SAID PEOPLE SHOULDN'T
BE. IN INSTITUTIONS. WOULDN'T
THINK ABOUT THE SUPPORT THOSE
INSTITUTIONS PROVIDED. THE
HOUSING SUPPORT THEY PROVIDED
THE FOOD SUPPORT THEY PROVIDED
THE WRAPAROUND SERVICES CARE
THEY PROVIDED. I'M JUST LOOK AT
HIM AS AN EVIL AND NOT AS- SEMI
THAT ALSO PROVIDED THE CARE.
THAT IF YOU REMOVE ALL THAT YOU
ARE LEFT WITH I THINK. THE
RESULTS. A LOT OF WHAT WE WHAT
WE SEE NOW. SO THAT'S KIND OF MY
LITTLE PREFACE IT THIS IS A PART
OF A LARGER CONTINUING HIS
PEOPLE KNOW- THE LAST COUPLE
YEARS WE HAVE SET UP- AT.
CHILDREN'S BACK BACKBONE FOR A
FULL CONTINUUM OF CARE. WE HAVE.
PASSED THE CARE ACT LAST YEAR.
I'VE WORKED ON PROVIDING THE
GATHERING MORE DATA AS IT READ
AS IT. APPLIES TO THE LPS AND
THE CONSERVATORSHIP- WE'VE DONE
MORE ON A. O. T. ADVANCED A. O.
T. I'VE DONE THAT. AS WE'VE DONE
MORE ON- PROVIDING PEOPLE
ANOTHER THIRTY DAYS BEFORE THEY
ENTER IN. THE CONSERVATORSHIP.
AND THEN THIS YEAR A REDO OF
MHSAA. BOTH THE POLICY PART OF
IT AND HOW ARE ABLE TO USE THAT
REESE THOSE RESOURCES. AND ALSO
PROVIDING SOME ADDITIONAL
FUNDING TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE
MORE OF THE VILLAGE TYPE HOUSING
WITH THE HOUSING THAT HEALS.
THAT WE THINK IS SO IMPORTANT.
IN TREATING THE MOST VULNERABLE
OF THE US. SO UP ELSEWHERE TODAY
AND WE KNOW THAT OUR LARGEST
STATE MENTAL HOSPITAL RIGHT NOW
IS OURS AS OUR PRISON SYSTEM-
AND WE KNOW THE MAJORITY OF
FOLKS ENTERING IN ARE AT A
HIGHER RATE. THOSE WITH.
UNTREATED MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES
AND WE KNOW- REPEATEDLY WE'VE
HEARD FROM PEOPLE WHO CYCLE IN
AND OUT AND HAVE PERHAPS BEEN ON
LPS HOLE FOR. A THIRTY FORTY
TIMES AND BEFORE THEY END UP
REALLY HURTING SOMEBODY AND THEN
ENDING UP LOSING ALL OF THEIR-
THEIR ABILITY TO MAKE DECISIONS
BECAUSE IN THEIR IN STATE PRISON
AND OR DEAD. OR IN JAIL- IS
VOLUNTARY THE BEST OF COURSE IT
IS NOT YOU THAT NO ARGUMENT IT
IS ALWAYS THE BEST- BUT AS WE
KNOW SOMETIMES PEOPLE REACH A
STATE WHERE THEY WERE UNABLE TO
MAKE DECISIONS OR THEY SUFFER
FROM SOMETHING CALLED. AND ROSE
YET WHICH MEANS THEY DON'T EVEN
UNDERSTAND THAT THEY HAVE A
MENTAL HEALTH ISSUE GOING ON. SO
WHAT SB FORTY THREE DOES AND HOW
DO YOU TODAY IS UPDATES WHAT IT
MEANS TO BE GRAVELY DISABLED IN
CALIFORNIA. TO ADD WHAT WE'RE
ACTUALLY SEEING IN TIME- THE
ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE.
AND NOT JUST IF YOU CAN'T
PROVIDE FOR YOU KNOW IT NEED NOT
TURNING THEM SHELTER BED BUT IF
YOU CANNOT PROVIDE ADEQUATE
SHELTER FOR YOURSELF. IF YOU
COULD NOT PROVIDE FOR YOUR BASIC
NEEDS IF YOU CANNOT PROVIDE FOR
YOUR MEDICAL NEEDS. AND THAT
RESULTS IN A TUNING OF CARE-
THIS IS ABOUT US. NET FIRST AND
FOREMOST TO REALLY BE ABLE TO.
FINISH THIS CONTINUE OF CARE
THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON. FOR
THIS LACK LAST DECADE- TO UPDATE
THE CURRENT LAWS ALSO BE ABLE TO
HAVE A HERE SAY I KNOW WE'VE HAD
SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT I
THINK THE COMMITTEE FOR THEIR
WORK AND REALLY DARING. WHAT WE
MEAN BY THAT- PEOPLE KNOW- THE
COURT PASSED ON LARGELY A WILDLY
CAN USE THAT BUT WE KNOW. THAT
IN THOSE MEDICAL RECORDS. ARE
THAT SIGNS AND SYMPTOMS THAT
PEOPLE WHO HAVE DEALT WITH BOOKS
FOR YEARS ARE ABLE TO DOCUMENT.
FOR A JUDGE TO BE ABLE TO USE
THAT WHEN DECIDING IF SOMEBODY.
IS AT THAT POINT WHERE THERE
SHOULD BE CONSERVED AND OF
COURSE THAT IS ON A LONG LINE.
OF THE TEAM OF CARE THAT WE
HOPE. FEWER AND FEWER OF FOLKS.
REACH THE PLACE WHERE WE SEE
THEM AS GROUP DISABLING GRAVELY
DISABLED AS THEY ARE RIGHT NOW.
I HOPE WE ALL AGREED THAT STATUS
IS NOT OKAY- WE SEE HOMELESSNESS
WE SEE DEATH WE SEE
INCARCERATION. LET'S WORK ON A
BETTER SOLUTION- AND WITH ME
HERE TODAY I HAVE RANDALL HAGAR
ON BEHALF TO PSYCHIATRIC
POSITIONS ALLIANCE OF
CALIFORNIA. AND LEE AND TWO
MINUTES FROM. THE CITY OF SAN
FRANCISCO WORKING AS AN ATTORNEY
IN THEIR OFFICE. FIRST WITNESS.
MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE RANDALL HAGER- I
ACTUALLY WORK COUPLE HATCH
TODAY. I'M NOT ONLY REPRESENTING
PSYCHIATRIC PHYSICIANS ALLIANCE
OF CALIFORNIA AND ALL THE
PSYCHIATRISTS WHO TREAT PEOPLE
ON THE ALTHEA SYSTEM. ON A DAILY
BASIS BUT- I AM ALSO A BOARD
MEMBER FOR THE TREATMENT
ADVOCACY. CENTER IN ARLINGTON
VIRGINIA WHICH WORKS TO REMOVE
BARRIERS. THAT EXIST TO THE
TREATMENT OF THE SEVERELY
MENTALLY ILL AND I'M ALSO A
FAMILY MEMBER WITH THE SUN WAS
SCHIZOPHRENIC. SO I WOULD LIKE
TO START BY. IT'S SAYING THAT I
THINK THAT- IT'S IMPORTANT TO
UNDERSTAND WHAT SCHIZOPHRENIA IS
TO REALIZE WHO THAT PERSON IS
OUT THERE ON THE STREET WHEN YOU
SEE THEM- SCHIZOPHRENIA CAN BE A
PROFOUNDLY DISABLING DISORDER
AND- IT MANIFESTS AS-
HALLUCINATIONS. AND DELUSIONS-
PEOPLE ARE OFTEN REALLY REALLY
COGNITIVELY IMPAIRED
PARTICULARLY IF THEY'RE NOT
TREATED. AND THAT'S WHAT WE SEE
ON OUR STREETS TODAY THE LPS ACT
WAS MEANT TO BE. A TOOL FOR US
TO BE ABLE TO TREAT PEOPLE WHO
COULD NOT TAKE CARE OF
THEMSELVES AND WHEN THEY RISE TO
THAT THRESHOLD FOR THEIR BASIC
HUMAN NEEDS. ARE NOT SOMETHING
THAT THEY CAN ADDRESS FOOD
CLOTHING AND SHELTER AS SENATOR
EGGMAN. REFERENCED THEN WE- TAKE
CARE OF THEM AND WE TAKE CARE OF
THEM AND TREAT THEM AND SUPPORT
THEM UNTIL THEY CAN. TAKE CARE
OF THEMSELVES AND THAT THAT'S
REALLY I THINK THE NOT OF THE
MATTER HERE. IT IS PROTECTIVE
IT'S ABOUT SAFETY- SAFETY IN THE
COMMUNITY AND SO WE DON'T DO
THIS **** NILLY THERE IS A
PRESUMPTION IN THE LAW THAT
WHEREVER WE CAN WE PLACE PEOPLE
IN THE COMMUNITY AND ONLY IF
THERE ON SAFE THERE WE BRING
THEM IN TO- ACUTE PSYCHIATRIC IN
PATIENT HOSPITALS. WE AT THERE
IS ALSO A PRESUMPTION THAT IF WE
A PERSON CAN BE TREATED SAFELY
WITH USING VOLUNTARY METHODS WE
DO THAT. AND SO WHAT THE WHAT
YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS THE L. P.
S. AND A NEW DEFINITION. OF
GREAT DISABILITY WHICH HELPS US
WITH THOSE PEOPLE WHO CANNOT
HELP THEMSELVES- I THINK IN YOUR
ANALYSIS THE EXAMPLE OF MARK
RIPPY IS ENTIRELY APPROPRIATE-
IT'S GONE INTO. IN SOME DETAIL
SO I WON'T REPEAT THAT BUT I
WILL SAY THAT IN MY EXPERIENCE
AS A FAMILY MEMBER RIGHT I HAVE.
HAD A PERIOD OF FIVE YEARS NOW
WHERE MY SON HAS BEEN HAVE BEEN
ON THE STREETS HE'S NOW CONSERVE
TEAS AND THEN INSTITUTION AND
HE'S BEEN THERE FOR TWO YEARS S.
THAT'S HOW. HE GOT ON THE
STREETS HE'S ON A GOOD
MEDICATION WE GO OUT ON PASSES.
AND WHEN JOINERS WRAP UP BAND SO
YOU KNOW TODAY REALLY I'M ASKING
YOU TO CONSIDER. THE THE MEASURE
BEFORE YOU- SEEN THROUGH THE
EYES OF PSYCHIATRISTS AND FAMILY
MEMBERS IT'S A LIFESAVING
MEASURE THANK YOU. NEXT WITNESS.
GOOD MORNING MR CHAIRMAN I AM
DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY LEE AND TWO
MINUTES FROM THE OFFICE OF SAN
FRANCISCO CITY ATTORNEY DAVID
CHIU. I AM HERE TODAY TO EXPRESS
MR CHIU SUPPORT FOR THIS BILL AS
WELL AS TO SAY HELLO FROM HIM.
TO HIS FRIENDS AND FORMER
COLLEAGUES HERE IN THE ASSEMBLY-
I ALSO WANTED TO THANK YOU
MISTER CHAIRMAN FOR YOUR SUPPORT
OF THIS BILL THIS IMPORTANT
ISSUE AND YOUR STAFF WHO REALLY
WORKED TIRELESSLY IN PREPARATION
FOR TODAY- THE BILL LANGUAGE AS
YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU. REALLY
REPRESENTS SIGNIFICANT
AMENDMENTS THAT. WERE DESIGNED
TO NARROWLY TAILOR THE AFFECTED
THIS BILL AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE
WHILE STILL ACHIEVING THE GOALS
OF THE AUTHOR AND- I'M GONNA
FOCUS MY COMMENTS ON THE EXPERT
TESTIMONY ASPECTS OF THE BILL
PROPOSED SECTION FIVE ONE TWO
TWO. AND THE GOAL HERE WITH THIS
LANGUAGE IS REALLY TO ALIGN THE
WAY MEDICINE IS PRACTICED WITH
THE WAY COURT. RECEIVED
INFORMATION ABOUT PROPOSED
CONSERVATIVES IN CONSERVATORSHIP
PROCEEDINGS THE WAY THE LAW
STANDS NOW. EXPERT WITNESSES
DOCTORS ARE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE
THEIR EXPERT OPINION BUT THEY
ARE NOT PERMITTED TO PROVIDE THE
CONTEXT THE INFORMATION ON WHICH
THEY BASE THAT OPINION. AND THAT
IS NOT THE WAY MEDICINE IS
PRACTICED CERTAINLY- DOCTORS DO
NOT OPERATE IN A VACUUM THANK
GOODNESS THEY HAVE TO. CONSIDER
MEDICAL RECORDS THEY HAVE TO
CONSIDER OPINIONS OF OTHER
PROVIDERS FACTS ABOUT THE
PATIENT'S MEDICAL HISTORY
INFORMING THEIR OPINION AND THE
COURTS ARE LEGALLY REQUIRED TO
CONSIDER A PATIENT'S MEDICAL
HISTORY AS WELL. YET THEY'RE NOT
ALLOWED TO GET THAT INFORMATION
FROM THE EXPERT WITNESS THIS SO
THIS BILL ALLOW THE COURT TO
HELP ALL OF THE INFORMATION THAT
IT NEEDS IN ORDER TO RENDER A
FULL COMPLETE. ACCURATE DECISION
HIM CONSERVATORSHIP PROCEEDINGS
BUT IT ALSO SAFEGUARDS PATIENTS
RATES BECAUSE IT IS VERY LIMITED
VERY SPECIFIC REGARDING WHAT
SOURCES CAN BE USED ENSURING
THAT THE INFORMATION BEING
PROVIDED BY THE EXPERT WITNESS
IS A CREDIBLE NATURE. THANK YOU
THANK YOU FOR THE WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT NAME AN ORGANIZATION
ONLY. MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS PLAYER
HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF SENATE
CITY AND COUNTY OF SAN FRANCISCO
MAYOR LONDON BREED. CALIFORNIA
STATE ASSOCIATION PSYCHIATRIST
CALIFORNIA ACADEMY OF CHILD AND
ADOLESCENT PSYCHIATRY. CITY OF
WEST HOLLYWOOD- IN THE CITY OF
SANTA MONICA ON SUPPORTER DR-
THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING CHEN
MEMBERS CHRIS LYNN C. ON BEHALF
OF THIS QUAN BAND OF THE
KUMEYAAY NATION IN SUPPORT. GOOD
MORNING SHARON MEMBERS JR MASABI
AFTER THE CITY CAMERI ON
RIVERSIDE IN SUPPORT. GOOD
MORNING MELANIE CLICK AMEND.
MEMBER OF CONFEDERATE TRIBES OF
CELESTE'S INDIANS I'M A FAMILY
MEMBER AN ADVOCATE FOR A
DAUGHTER WHO IS SEVERELY
MENTALLY ILL AND MISSING. GOOD
MORNING ALYSSA STILL HIGH ON
BEHALF OF THE CITIES OF REDWOOD
CITY CARLSBAD IN BAKERSFIELD
AUSTIN'S PART. ALISON MUNRO
FAMILIES ADVOCATING FOR THE
SERIOUSLY MENTALLY ILL AND
MOTHER OF SOMEONE WITH
SCHIZOPHRENIA WHO A WHILE
YESTERDAY AND IS IN DANGER ON
THE STREET I'M SO GRATEFUL FOR
THIS BILL I SUPPORT. MORE TOP ON
BEHALF OF SAN DIEGO MAYOR TODD
GLORIA AS WELL AS THE BIG CITY
MAYORS COALITION WHICH IS THE
COALITION OF MAYORS OF THE
THIRTEEN LARGEST CITIES THEY ARE
COSPONSORS OF THE MEASURE IN
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR AYE
VOTE. GOOD MORNING CAROL ROSS ON
BEHALF OF THE CITY OF STOCKTON
VERY THANKFUL FOR ALL THE
EFFORTS OF THE AUTHOR AND
TRANSPORT BUILT. GOOD MORNING
CAL INCIDENTS ON IN OF THE LIGA
CALIFORNIA CITIES IN SUPPORT.
JOSH TALKING ON BEHALF OF SANTA
CLARA COUNTY WE HAVE A SUPPORT
OF AMENDED POSITION OR IN THE
PROCESS OF UPDATING WE JUST
WANTED TO THANK THE AUTHOR
COMMITTEE FOR THE WORK ON THE
BILL. GOOD MORNING ROSS BUCKLEY
ON BEHALF OF SACRAMENTO MAYOR
DARRELL STEINBERG IN SUPPORT.
THANK YOU MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS MY
CONSUMERS ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA PROFESSIONAL
FIREFIGHTERS AND SUPPORT. ONE
RESEARCHER MEMBERS JASON BRYAN
OF THE AFTER THE CALIFORNIA
DOWNTOWN ASSOCIATION SUPPORT
THANK YOU. J. MEMBERS NECRO ON
BEHALF OF SAN JOSE MAYOR MATT
MAY HANG IN SUPPORT. ELISABETH
KINDA HOPPER IN STRONG SUPPORT
BECAUSE I HAVE A FAMILY MEMBER
WHO LIVES WITH SERIOUS MENTAL
ILLNESS AND SUBSTANCE USE
DISORDER. CONTINUOUSLY FAILED BY
THIS LAW THANK YOU. DIANNA
BURDICK I A- FAMILY MENDER
MEMBER OF THE SEVERELY MENTALLY
ILL SON WHO I'M WATCHING DIE IN
THE STREETS. I ALSO AM A THE
DAUGHTER OF A- OF. MY MOTHER WHO
IS BI POLAR BUT UNDERSTANDS THAT
SHE'S STILL AND SHE TAKES
MEDICATION HOWEVER WHEN YOU
DON'T KNOW. YOU'RE GONNA DIE AND
THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING TO ME.
GOOD MORNING I'M THERESA HUSKY
I'M AN ARMY MEMBER I'M ALSO A
CALIFORNIA ADVOCATE FOR THE
TREATMENT ADVOCACY CENTER- MOST
IMPORTANTLY I'M A PROUD MOM OF.
DANNY PASQUINI AND THE PROUD
SISTER OF LERI- WITHIN OVER
FIFTY YEAR HISTORY WITH THE LPS-
SYSTEM AND THANK YOU. SENATOR
EGGMAN AND- I STRONGLY STRONGLY
SUPPORT THE FALL THANK YOU. C.
ST HIM CLEANER FOR KIDS STRONG
SUPPORT. THANK YOU SEEN NO
FURTHER WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION
HERSEY'S MEANS SUPPORT ANY
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION. AND
WHILE THEY'RE COMING UP HERE
LAST THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL
TO ESTABLISH A QUORUM.
MAIENSCHEIN HERE ASSEMBLY.
FINALLY DIXON. CANEY ALL RIGHT
THERE. THE HAPPEN. REYES YEAH.
SANCHEZ WE CAN- THANK YOU OKAY
WITNESSES THAT CAN. OF TWO MEN
EACH FIRST WITNESS. THANK YOU
AND COMMITTEE MY IS THE TIME TO
SHARED I AM. PEER SUPPORT. CO
AND THE SOCIO DIRECTOR OF
COMMUNITIES VOICES APPEAR RUN
MENAMPAR. EVERY DAY AMID HEALTH
SUBSTANCE USE CHALLENGES. TWENTY
YEARS AGO I BECAME DEPRESSED AND
MADE MY FIRST APPOINTMENT THE
PSYCHIATRIST I LEFT HER OFFICE
BEING DIAGNOSED BIPOLAR ONE AND
SCHIZOPHRENIC WITHOUT EVER
SHOWING SYMPTOMS OF BEING EITHER
AND WITHOUT EVER BEING TESTED.
THE SYSTEM DISPROPORTIONATELY
DIAGNOSES BLACK AND BROWN PEOPLE
WITH THEIR WITH PSYCHOTIC
DISORDERS I HAVE BEEN GIVEN FAIR
QUILT THORAZINE LITHIUM STAFFERS
WERE SPARED ALL TO NAME A FEW
ALONG WITH FOUR ROUNDS OF A
NEEDY ECT. BECAUSE OF THIS MIGHT
BE HEALTH IS SHOT I'VE HAD MY
GALLBLADDER DEVELOP HYPOTHYROID
PROLACTIN NAMA DIABETES CHRONIC
PANCREATITIS WHICH NEEDED THREE
SURGERIES ONE OF WHICH I ALMOST
DIED. DUE TO THESE HEALTH
PROBLEMS I WAS GIVEN OUR CREDIT
PAYMENT DISTANCE AND BECAME
ADDICTED I BEEN INVOLUNTARILY
COMMITTED AS A BLACK WOMAN IN
AMERICA I DON'T WANT TO DEAL
WITH THE POLICE LIKE THAT I
DON'T HAVE ANOTHER INTERACTION
WITH THE POLICE LIKE THAT EVER
IT WAS DRAMATIC AND UNNECESSARY.
I'VE BEEN A RECOVERY FOR FIVE
YEARS. BUILDING SAVE HOUSING
AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROVIDING A
GOOD EDUCATION JOBS AND HEALTH
CARE CAN FIX THE HOUSING PROBLEM
NOT ALLOWING CORPORATE LANDLORDS
FOR OUT OF STATE DEVELOPERS TO
BUILD MANSIONS THAT SIT EMPTY
FOR YEARS. AS TAX SHELTERS FOR
THE WEALTHY CAN GO EVEN FURTHER
TO FIGHT THE HOUSING CRISIS. SB
FORTY THREE TERRIFIES ME IT
TERRIFIES ME TO MY CORE. I
UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE
THAT ME CONSERVATORSHIP. BUT NOT
LISTENING TO OTHERS THAT ARE
EXPERIENCING THIS PROBLEM IS A
VERY BIG ISSUE. YOU GUYS NEED TO
HAVE PEERS ON THE BOARD. NO ONE
SHOULD HAVE TO MISS YEARS OF
THEIR LIFE BECAUSE OF THE
SYSTEMS FOR SOMEBODY ELSE'S
FAILURES THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING
MR CHAIRMAN COMMITTEE MEMBERS
ARE DEAD ROTH ON BEHALF OF
DISABILITY RIGHTS CALIFORNIA IN
OPPOSITION. I'M ALSO A PERSON
WHO LIVES WITH AND AT TIMES
STRUGGLES WITH MENTAL ILLNESS.
ON OCCASION I HAVE BEEN
SIDELINED BY IT. I HID MY MENTAL
ILLNESS FOR MOST OF MY
PROFESSIONAL CAREER WHICH
INCLUDES TWELVE YEARS AS A STAFF
PERSON IN THIS BUILDING. HAVING
WATCHED THE LEGISLATURE CONSIDER
INVOLUNTARY TREATMENT
LEGISLATION OVER THE LAST TWO
YEARS I KNOW I MADE THE RIGHT
CHOICE IN NOT DISCLOSING
INFORMATION ABOUT MY MENTAL
HEALTH. I'M ALSO RELIEVED THAT
AT TIMES WHEN MY YOUNG ADULT SON
WHO HAS A MENTAL HEALTH DISORDER
ON A DEVELOPMENTAL DISORDER.
WHEN HE DISPLAYED. DISTURBING
BEHAVIORS WE CAME CLOSE TO
CALLING FIFTY ONE FIFTY WHILE HE
WAS STILL UNDER EIGHTEEN AND I'M
SO GLAD WE DIDN'T. I AM I AM
JUST SO GRATEFUL THAT WE DIDN'T
DO THAT. WE APPRECIATE THE
AUTHOR HAVING MET WITH US
EARLIER THIS YEAR. BUT AS HAS
BEEN THE CASE WITH ALL OF THE
MAJOR MENTAL HEALTH REFORM
PROPOSALS WE HAD NO PART IN
SHAPING THE POLICY. WE'RE TIRED
OF HEARING THAT WE WANT TO LET
PEOPLE DIE WITH THEIR RIGHTS ON
THAT'S NOT TRUE. AND IT'S
INSULTING. ESPECIALLY TO PEOPLE
WHO HAVE BEEN THROUGH MENTAL
HEALTH CHALLENGES HAVE RECOVERED
OR ARE RECOVERING AND WHO BASED
ON THOSE EXPERIENCES AND RELATED
TRAUMAS WANT TO HAVE NOTHING TO
DO WITH OUR MENTAL HEALTH SYSTEM
. TURNING TO THE HERE STATE
PROVISION. WHICH WE THINK SHOULD
BE STRICKEN FROM THE BILL
ENTIRELY. IT'S HELPFUL TO LOOK
AT WHY HERE SAY IS GENERALLY NOT
ALLOWED IT'S NOT RELIABLE IT'S
NOT THE BEST EVIDENCE OUR SYSTEM
PROVIDES FOR CROSS EXAMINATION
OF WITNESSES TO TEST
RELIABILITY. IF A DOCTOR SENDS A
PATIENT IS GRAVELY DISABLED
SHOULDN'T THE DOCTOR HAVE TO
TESTIFY AND BE SUBJECT TO CROSS
EXAMINATION. I UNDERSTAND I
COULDN'T HEAR THE PRESENTATION
OF THE- THE AUTHOR'S
PRESENTATION OF THE BILL I
UNDERSTAND ON THE CITY AND
COUNTY OF SAN FRANCISCO SUPPORTS
THE PROVISIONS THAT ARE IN THE
BILL AS PROPOSED TO BE AMENDED.
HOWEVER SAN FRANCISCO IS NOT
LIKE CONTRA COSTA WHICH IS NOT
LIKE SANTA CLARA UNDERSTAND IT
SAN FRANCISCO- MAY HAVE SAID
SOMETHING ABOUT THE DIFFICULTY
EITHER GETTING- WITNESSES OR-
GETTING MEDICAL RECORDS. THAT'S
NOT THE CASE IN ALL OTHER
COUNTIES PLEASE DON'T MAKE
STATEWIDE POLICY BASED ON HOW
THINGS WORK IN ONE COUNTY I NEED
YOU TO WRAP UP. HI IF THE GOAL
IS TO GET THE MEDICAL RECORD IN
THE COULD ALREADY HAPPEN WITH
THE BUSINESS RECORDS EXCEPTION
IF THE GOAL IS TO ELIMINATE THE
NEED FOR DOCTORS TO TESTIFY WELL
IF YOU'RE ABOUT TO TAKE AWAY
SOMEONE'S LIBERTY AND THEY'VE
COMMITTED NO CRIME. SHOULDN'T
PERSON WHOSE OPINION CARRIES THE
MOST WEIGHT BE REQUIRED TO
TESTIFY THANK YOU VERY MUCH
THANK YOU. FOR THE WITNESSES
AND- IN OPPOSITION NAME AN
ORGANIZATION ONLY. HI RACHEL
BAGUA ON BEHALF OF ACLU
CALIFORNIA. AS IN DEPRESSION OR
BIPOLAR SUPPORT ALLIANCE THANK
YOU. KAFRANBEL OF INTERIM POLICY
DIRECTOR AND ON BEHALF OF THE
DISABLED STUDENTS COMMISSION THE
CESSATION ASSOCIATED STUDENTS OF
THE UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA AND
WITH RESPECT ALSO FOR HUMAN
RIGHTS WATCH AND LOS ANGELES
COMMUNITY ACTION NETWORK IN
STRONG OPPOSITION. HELLO A
RETOOL LUCKY SENTERA- CALIFORNIA
ASSOCIATION OF MENTAL HEALTH AN
ORGANIZATION'S CAN PROCURE IN
STRONG SO STRONG OPPOSITION OF
THIS BILL. ME A BRAVE RACIAL AND
ETHNIC MENTAL HEALTH DISPARITIES
COALITION ALSO IN STRONG
OPPOSITION. ANDRE RIVERA ON
BEHALF THE CALIFORNIA PAN ETHNIC
HEALTH NETWORK CALIFORNIA PAN
ETHNIC HEALTH NETWORK
REGRETTABLY IN OPPOSITION THANK
. LINDA WAY WITH WESTERN CENTER
ON LAW AND POVERTY IN OPPOSITION
. EVER SHE'D WITH THE COUNTY
BEHAVIOR HEALTH DIRECTORS
ASSOCIATION OF CALIFORNIA WAS
STRONG CONCERNS THANK YOU. SCOTT
WHICH IN BEHALF OF THE COUNTY OF
KERN IN RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION
THANK. JENNY THEIR COMBAT FOR
MENTAL HEALTH AMERICA CALIFORNIA
AND THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT AT
WORK IN STRONG OPPOSITION. CENA
OF ONE MORE. GOOD MORNING MR
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS JULIAN ADAIR
WITH THE CALIFORNIA STATE
ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES ALSO
HERE REPRESENTING THE RURAL
COUNTY REPRESENTATIVES OF
CALIFORNIA AND THE URBAN
COUNTIES OF CALIFORNIA I WITH
THE POSITION OF CONCERNS THANK
YOU THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING TURN
MEMBERS I APOLOGIZE- ON BEHALF
OF THIS ON OUR BEHALF A
SHARPSHOOTER INTERNATIONALS ARE
LAYING. ON IN OPPOSITION FRESNO
COUNTY THANK YOU THANK YOU AS
SEEN OF FOR THEIR OPPOSITION
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE
COMMITTEE. MYSTICS AND. A FIRST
OF ALL SENATOR I KNOW YOU'VE
BEEN WORKING A LONG TIME WITH
THIS AND YOU HAVE A BI PARTISAN
. WORKING GROUP AND I COMMEND
YOUR EFFORTS REPRESENTING. A
DISTRICT THAT HAS MANY HOMELESS
MENTALLY ILL PELL OF PEOPLE AND
I'VE SAID THIS PUBLICLY MANY
TIMES THEY NEED HELP. AND WE'RE
NOT ABLE TO HELP THEM AND I WAS
PARTICULARLY TAKEN WITH YOUR
COMMENT THAT OUT. NOW LAW THAT
WAS PASSED MANY DECADES AGO DID
NOT TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WHAT
HAPPENS TO THESE PEOPLE ONCE
THEY'VE BEEN RELEASED FROM THE
FACILITY AND THAT'S REALLY THE
PURPOSE OF MY QUESTION. JUST
LIKE AB ONE OH NINE ONE ON THE
PRESS SHOT OUT OF JAIL WHEN
THESE PEOPLE ARE ARE NOW IN THE
COUNTY OR THE CITY'S
RESPONSIBILITY HOP WHAT FUNDS
ARE AVAILABLE TO HELP THESE
PEOPLE. WE SOLD I MEAN THESE ARE
ALREADY PEOPLE WHO WORK IN THESE
COUNTIES IN THESE COMMUNITIES
WHO SHOULD BE HELPED RIGHT IT'S
NOT LIKE WE'RE INVENTING NEW
PEOPLE TO BRING IN THAT THERE'S
NO CAPACITY FOR THESE ARE FOLKS.
WHO WE HAVE BEEN PROVIDING
THROUGH AN HSA IN THROUGH STATE
DOLLARS COUNTY DOLLARS FOR HELP-
SO IT IS GOING TO BE THE RE
PRIORITIZATION I MEAN PEOPLE
HAVE SAID WOULD HAVE TO RE
PRIORITIZE AND YEAH I THINK WE
DO REALLY NEED TO REPRIORITIZE.
WHO WERE WHO WERE ABLE TO HELP-
THROUGH THE LAST COUPLE YEARS
YOU KNOW WE HAVE WE ARE IN THE
FIFTH ROUND NOW OF THE BRIDGE
FUNDING HOUSING THAT WE HAVE
PAID FOR. ME BILLIONS WAS AT
FIVE SIX SIX BILLION FROM SO WE
HAVE THE LAST COUPLE YEARS
REALLY- FUNDED A LOT OF THE
INFRASTRUCTURE MONEY. TO THE
MHSAA GRANTS THAT WILL ALSO BE
FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE
VILLAGE AND COTTAGE TYPE
HOUSING. TO MOVING AWAY FROM THE
INSTITUTION BUT COMMUNITY
LIVING. FOR FOLKS WITH
WRAPAROUND SUPPORT SO THAT WE
THINK AND I WILL SAN FRANCISCO
SPEAK. WE REALLY THINK THAT THE
FACILITIES ARE THERE WE'VE HEARD
THAT REPEATEDLY IF WE HAVE MEANS
TO BE ABLE TO. FIND THOSE BEDS
PAY FOR THOSE BEDS AND WITH
MAKING SURE THE CRITERIA
MATCHES- THEN YOU'RE ABLE TO
BILL MEDICARE. AND MEDICARE- IN
ADDITION TO BEING ABLE TO USE
SOME OF THE MHA SAY FUNDINGS FOR
JUST FOR THE DIRECT SERVICES.
BUT FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF
THE HOUSING TO BUILD OUT THAT
WE'VE BEEN DOING. THAT'S WHAT
HAS BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR THE
LAST FIVE YEARS. OKAY JUST WELL
THAT'S GOOD AND YOU FOLLOW
QUESTION- WE DEAL AT THE LOCAL
LEVEL WITH. A THE SAUDIS AT OUR
LICENSE BY THE- BUT NOT IN FOR.
AND WELL OUR OPINION. OF
PARTICULAR FOR SOBER LIVING
DIFFERENT SITUATION BUT THERE
COULD BE SOME MENTAL ILLNESS
COMPONENTS ABSOLUTELY. HOW DOES
HOW DOES THIS. HOW DOES A
LICENSING REGULATORY ASPECTS OF
LICENSING AFFECT THIS. SAB ARE
PUSHED FURTHER AND MORE INTO IT.
BECAUSE I INSTITUTIONALIZED
ENVIRONMENT IN OUR COMMUNITIES.
THIS DOESN'T DEAL SPECIFICALLY
WITH HOUSING REGULATIONS I DON'T
KNOW IF THE DEPUTY WANT TO BE
ABLE TO TALK ABOUT THIS BUT I
MEAN THE LAWS ARE STILL THE LAWS
I MEAN THIS IS JUST. DEALING
WITH. WHAT IT MEANS TO BE
GRAVELY DISABLED. OKAY AND JUST
THE REGULATION OF THAT ALL RIGHT
WELL THANK YOU I'LL BE
SUPPORTING THIS BUT- AS- IN THE
IMPLEMENTATION OF IT AT THE
LOCAL LEVEL I'M GOING TO. BE
SURE I UNDERSTAND IT. ABSOLUTELY
OKAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH THANK
YOU MISTER SELLING. THANK YOU
MISTER- I WANTED I APPRECIATE
YOU BRINGING THIS IN A KNOWLEDGE
IN THERE'S A BIG ISSUE OUT THERE
I THINK YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A
DESPERATION FOR SOLUTIONS- BUT
I'M HONESTLY TORN. BECAUSE I
DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE RIGHT
SOLUTION. AND I KNOW YOU
MENTIONED IS. YOU KNOW A LOT OF
PEOPLE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES IN
PRISON BUT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT
MASS INSTEAD. INSTITUTIONALIZING
THE HOMELESS WHICH- WOULD LOWER
DUE PROCESS THAN WHAT YOU WOULD
GET A CRIMINAL COURT BECAUSE
YOU'RE TALKING LET'S BE CLEAR
ABOUT. INVOLUNTARILY COMMITTING
PEOPLE YOU'RE GOING TO FORCIBLY
I SEEM USING POLICE. TAKE THEM
OFF THE STREETS AND PUT IN A
MENTAL HOSPITAL I MEAN THAT'S
WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CORRECT
SIR THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS RIGHT
NOW. WELL NO RIGHT NOW. ARE WE
ENFORCE LAWS SO RIGHT NOW YOU
GET TO GO TO COURT YOU HAVE TO
PROCESS YOU GET A JURY TRIAL YOU
GET A PUBLIC DEFENDER. YOU GET A
RIGHT TO IT YOU GET A RIGHT TO
PRESENT EVIDENCE TO A JURY HAVE
TO FIND YOU. BEYOND A REASONABLE
DOUBT GUILTY TALK ABOUT IN THE
CRIMINAL COURT RIGHT YES. I'M
TALKING ABOUT OUR MOST SERIOUSLY
ILL RIGHT NOW. WHAT HAPPENS
RIGHT NOW IF SOMEBODY'S IN
CRISIS ON THE STREET. YEAH I
UNDERSTAND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
EXPANDING THAT PROGRAM TO COVER
BASICALLY PEOPLE WHO ARE
SUFFERING FROM. I THINK MOSTLY
SUBSTANCE ABUSE ISSUES AND DR
YOU KNOW I KNOW. A LOT
EXPERIENCING THIS BUT THERE'S
SOMETHING CALLED MENTAL DRUG
INDUCED PSYCHOSIS THAT'S CORRECT
AND- I THINK THE BIGGEST MISTAKE
WE MADE AS THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA WAS PASSING PROP
FORTY SEVEN. BECAUSE YOU COULD
SEE A DIRECT CORRELATION BETWEEN
THE PASSAGE OF PROP FORTY SEVEN
IN THE EXPLOSION OF HOMELESSNESS
ON OUR STREETS. I WAS A
PROSECUTOR AT THE LOCAL LEVEL.
PROP FORTY SEVEN WAS A DISASTER
BECAUSE BEFORE PROP FORTY SEVEN
IF SOMEONE WAS ARRESTED AND
BROUGHT TO COURT FOR DRUGS OF
TALKING ABOUT HARD DRUGS. THE
MATH THE HEROIN THE COCAINE. WE
WOULD GIVE THEM A CHOICE. AND
THE CHOICE SHOULD BE YOU CAN
EITHER GO TO PRISON OR GO TO
REHAB. NOBODY WENT TO PRISON
EVERYONE WENT TO REHAB WAS A
MECHANISM. TO GET PEOPLE OFF THE
STREET INTO TREATMENT AND SO. WE
HAD A GOOD SYSTEM TO DEAL WITH
THAT IT WASN'T UNTIL WE GOT RID
OF IT SO. I COMMEND YOU FOR.
LOOKING FIRST. I'M JUST STRUCK.
IF THIS IS THE RIGHT ONE AND SO-
AND IT'S NOT YOU KNOW ALWAYS
SEEK YOU DIDN'T PERSONALLY
PASSED PROP FORTY SEVEN IS NOT A
CRITICISM OF YOU IT'S A STATE
POLICY ISSUE. SO THAT'S WHAT I'M
STRUGGLING WITH- BUT A QUESTION
SO. IT SAYS YOU'RE REQUESTING
ABOUT TWO HUNDRED MILLION
DOLLARS TO FUND IT. WE HAVE
ABOUT A HUNDRED AND SIXTY
THOUSAND HOMELESS PEOPLE ON THE
STREET DO WE KNOW LIKE WE'RE NOT
TALKING SPECIFICALLY JUST ABOUT
HOMES PEOPLE WE ARE TALKING
ABOUT PEOPLE WHO ARE GRAVELY
DISABLED. WHICH IS A DIFFERENT
THING. PEOPLE I THINK CONFLATE.
HOMELESSNESS WITH GRAVE
DISABILITY AND WHILE THERE IS.
THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE
GRAVELY DISABLED WHO ARE ALSO
HOMELESS. EVERYBODY WHO IS
HOMELESS IS NOT GRAVELY
DISABLED. BUT WE ARE NOT TALKING
I'M LOOKING AT HERE SAYS THAT
GRAVELY DISABLED WOULD BE
DEFINED AS PERSONS DUE TO A
MENTAL HEALTH OR SUBSTANCE USE
DISORDER. IS UNABLE TO PROVIDE
FOR BASIC PERSONAL NEEDS OF FOOD
CLOTHING OR SHELTER I THINK THAT
COVERS ALL THE CURRENT ROSTER.
BUT THAT'S THE CURRENT LAW. THIS
IS A MEDICAL CARE IS A NEW.
FINANCE A LOT MAYES. YEAH THIS
YEAR ADDING PERSONAL SAFETY
NECESSARY MEDICAL CARE OKAY WELL
I MEAN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
EXPANDING IT TO COVER. PERSONAL
SAFETY MEDICAL CARE THAT'S
CORRECT I AM OKAY I'D LIKE
ANYWAY HE'S HERE CONCERNED ABOUT
THE HOMELESS SO. OKAY I JUST
DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE RIGHT
SOLUTION SO BUT I APPRECIATE YOU
FOR OKAY THANK YOU. MISTER KALRA
. THANK YOU MISTER GENTLEMAN
THANK THE SENATOR FOR HER MANY
YEARS OF COMMITMENT. I THINK
THERE ARE YOU PEOPLE THE
LEGISLATURE THAT HAVE SHOWN
MORE- DEDICATION TO THOSE
SUFFERING WITH MENTAL HEALTH
ISSUES AND ESPECIALLY GIVEN YOUR
BACKGROUND. I THINK YOU HAVE A
LEVEL OF EXPERTISE THAT IS
DEFINITELY- BEYOND BUT MANY OF
US- KERRY AND BRING INTO THE
INTO THE BODY AND- YOU KNOW I
THINK OF. MY BUT MY CONCERNS
THAT. WERE RAISED WHEN THE CARE
COURT ISSUE CAME FORWARD. ARE
SOMEWHAT SIMILAR- IN THIS CASE-
I UNDERSTAND. THE SERIES OF THE
ISSUE- AND- DODD AT TIMES- AT
TIMES I LAWS GET IN THE WAY OF.
THE A B. THE ABILITY TO MOVE AT
THE AT THE SPEED THAT THAT. MANY
CITIES IN PARTICULAR FEEL IS
NECESSARY- MY- MAJOR CONCERNS-
AND IN THIS CASE OF COURSE IS
EXPANDING. THE- THE- DEFINITION
AND OF ALLOWING FOR GRAVE THE
OLD INCLUDE ANYONE THAT- IS
SUFFERS SUBSTANCE ABUSE
DISORDER- I SPENT A LOT OF TIME
REPRESENTING. INDIVIDUALS AND
DRUG COURT AND- THERE'S NO DOUBT
THAT- WE AND I THINK ALL OF US
WE NEED MORE TREATMENT AND I
THINK THAT THERE'S BEEN A
COLLECTIVE EFFORT. AS A STATE
THAT THE LEGISLATURE
ADMINISTRATION TO PUT MORE
RESOURCES THERE BUT- WE STILL
DON'T HAVE ENOUGH- PARTICULARLY
ON THE- BOTH THE SUB SEBI SIDE
AS WELL AS A HOUSING SITE FOR
THOSE THAT ARE. ON HOUSE AND
SUFFERING AT THE MOMENT- AND- MY
I HAVE MY- WORRY AND EXT. IS A
IT'S SUCH A CATEGORY OF
INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE SUFFERING-
FROM SUBSTANCE ABUSE DISORDER-
OF. YOU KNOW THE IT. IS THE
THERE'S- IT'S AN IT'S ON AT THE
MOMENT IT'S AN IMPOSSIBILITY FOR
US BILL TO GIVE THE KIND OF CARE
THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY TO DEAL.
WITH THE WHAT THEY MAY BE
SUFFERING THROUGH- IN IN IN
OTHER ISSUES HAS TO DO WITH THE
HEARSAY- AND I'M NOT. AND I KNOW
THERE ARE SOME AMENDMENTS I
BELIEVE THAT BUT THE ONE OF THE
QUESTIONS IS WHAT THE GIVEN THE
FACT THAT BUSINESS RECORDS
EXCEPTIONS CONFUSE WHAT HAVE YOU
SO IF YOU ARE IN THE WITNESSES
ONE OF. HAVE DESCRIBED AS TO
WHAT IS THE PROBLEM THAT IS
TRYING TO SEEK BECAUSE IT'S A
PRETTY SEVERE STEP MAJOR STEP TO
TAKE ON THIS IS A PRETTY
DRAMATIC IN MY OPINION YEARS SAY
MANY YEARS EXCEPTION IS. BUT IN
THIS CASE GIVEN- THE FACT THAT.
IN THE DEPRIVING WAS LIBERTY AND
KIND OF THE FORCE TREATMENT
ASPECT OF IT IT'S- A PRETTY
SIGNIFICANT SO I DON'T ANY
INSIGHT ON THAT PARTICULAR
ASPECT YES DEFINITELY THANK YOU
FOR THE QUESTION IT DOES SOUND
ALARMING ESPECIALLY YOU KNOW
BEFORE THE LAWYERS IN THE ROOM
TO. HAVE YOUR SAY BE PERMITTED
IN THESE TYPES OF HEARING THERE
ARE OTHER AREAS IN THE LAW THAT
ARE ANALOGOUS TO THIS THAT
ALREADY EXISTS JUVENILE
DEPENDENCY FOR EXAMPLE. HAS THIS
TYPE OF HEARSAY EXCEPTION AND
THIS TYPE OF TESTIMONY WAS
PERMITTED PRIOR TO TWENTY
SIXTEEN IN THE PEOPLE V. SANCHEZ
CASE WHEN THAT CAME OUT IT
REALLY HAD. BROAD AND SWEEPING A
FAX ON MANY AREAS OF THE LAW AND
THAT CASE IS VERY DIFFERENT FROM
CONSERVATORSHIP CASES. IT
FOCUSED ON A IT WAS A CRIMINAL
CASE WITH THE POLICE OFFICERS AN
EXPERT WITNESS TALKING ABOUT
STATEMENTS FROM OTHER POLICE
OFFICERS. THAT'S VERY DIFFERENT
FROM WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
HERE HERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
MEDICAL EXPERTS DOCTORS WHO ARE
RELYING ON INFORMATION MEDICAL
RECORDS THAT'S CREDIBLE. IN
ORDER TO TREAT PATIENTS. AND
COURTS THAT ARE RELIANT ON ON IN
FOR. AND WHY WHY THE EXAM AS
OPPOSED OTHER MECHANISMS TO GET
THAT EVIDENCE AND I GOT WHAT
THEY BECAUSE A CERTAINLY DOES
MAKE IT EASIER- IN A
CONSERVATORSHIP HEARING- TO
BLEED CONCLUSION. A SERVICE OF
IF THAT'S THE OPINION OF THE
DOCTOR THIS IS YOUR STARTED OUT
OF PLEASE THIS IS REALLY ABOUT
ORAL TESTIMONY FROM AN EXPERT
WITNESS NOT ABOUT GETTING. THE
LUMINOUS MEDICAL RECORDS PAPER
RECORDS INTRODUCED AS EVIDENCE
IT IS REALLY ABOUT AN EXPERT'S
OPINION AND THE EXPERT BEING
ABLE TO RELY ON INFORMATION THAT
THAT EXPERT MUST RELY ON IN
ORDER TO FORM AN OPINION. AND
REALLY IT'S ABOUT- THE LANGUAGE
OF THE STATUTE MENTIONS IT'S FOR
THE PURPOSE OF AN EXPERT
TESTIFYING IN A CONSERVATORSHIP
PROCEEDING AS TO HIS OR HER
OPINION. AND THE EVIDENCE IS
BEING RELIED ON HOWEVER IF THAT
ITSELF IS A RELIABLE. THE NECK
IN THE QUESTION OF CONCLUSIONS
OF THE EXPERT. AND THE LAW IS
NARROWLY TAILORED AND THE BILL
LANGUAGE HERE IN ORDER TO ENSURE
THAT THE INFORMATION IS ONLY
RECEIVED FROM A CERTAIN CLASS OF
INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE CONSIDERED
RELIABLE OTHER HEALTH
PRACTITIONERS. AND THERE'S ALSO
A DEFINITION PROVIDED TO ENSURE
THAT THE INFORMATION IS
CREDIBLE. IN THE MEDICAL RECORD
FURTHER MORE- IF THERE'S A JURY
INVOLVED WHICH IS NOT ALWAYS IN
CONSERVATORSHIP PROCEEDINGS BUT
SOMETIMES THERE IS A JURY-
INVOLVED THE COURT. IS THE
GATEKEEPER AND IS ABLE TO HAVE A
HEARING OUTSIDE OF THE PRESENCE
OF THE JURY THAT WOULD ALLOW THE
COURT TO ENSURE THAT THE-
EVIDENCE THAT IS BEING.
DISCUSSED IS OF A CREDIBLE
NATURE. I THE JUST DOESN'T APPLY
GENERALLY NOT ON IF THE
UNDERLYING WE- THAT. PROVIDED
THOSE THAT THE CREW A DOCTOR IS
ON. IS JUST A QUICK DAY NOT
REQUIRED CORRECT IT'S REGARDING
STATEMENTS THAT ARE MADE FROM
OTHER HEALTH CARE PROVIDERS IN
THE MEDICAL RECORD ABOUT A
PATIENT. AND HEALTHCARE PROVIDER
IS DEFINED YES IT IS- IN IN.
PRETTY BROADLY IT'S DEFINED AS
LICENSE DOCTORS SOCIAL WORKERS-
AND IT ACTUALLY IS LICENSE
SOCIAL A DEFINITION THAT ALREADY
EXISTS- IN STATUTE AND IS USED
FOR OTHER- IN OTHER AREAS OF THE
LAW. THAT THE COMPUTER CAN COULD
COULD INCLUDE A PARAMEDIC. YES
AND- YEAH SO I. YOU KNOW I I'M
ALWAYS GONNA HAVE AWARENESS IN
TERMS EXPANSION OF THE HEARSAY
RULE ESPECIALLY COMES OF
SOMEONE'S LIBERTY AT STAKE- AND
THEN THE GENERAL MOB. I MEAN
HAVE YOU SEEN WHEN IT COMES TO
KIND OF FORCE CONSERVATORSHIP SO
WHEN THE OUTCOME- WHEN THERE ARE
THE RESOURCES AVAILABLE IT JUST
ENDS UP INCARCERATION- AND CAN
BE VERY CAN BE CAN CERTAINLY BE
LONG TERM AGAIN THAT'S NOT THE
GOAL OF THE AUTHOR ANYONE BEST.
SUPPORTING THIS I GET THAT IT'S
NOT THE UNDERLYING PURPOSE OF
LEGISLATION IS WHAT THE OUTCOME
IS GOING TO BE IN THE REAL
WORLD- AND WE KNOW THAT. THOSE
THAT ARE SUFFERING FROM
SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER A
PARTICULARLY THOSE THAT ARE ON
HOUSE- OUR POOREST- PEOPLE COLOR
PEOPLE THAT HAVE IS STRUGGLING
VERY LONG TIME TO BE A- ARE
SEEING. EVEN THOUGH WE'VE SEEN
ALL THESE NEWS REPORTS RECENTLY
OF SOME POLICE DEPARTMENTS NOW
THAT CARE COURT ALLOWS FOR
POLICE OFFICERS. I'M TO BE THE
INDIVIDUAL THAT CAN- BRING
SOMEONE IN UNDER THE- UNDER THE
SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE NOW SET UP-
THAT THEY'RE USING THIS NEW
AUTHORITY TO SWEEP UP THE AND
HOUSED AND I'M WORRIED THAT.
THIS IS GOING TO FURTHER
EXACERBATE THAT AGAIN NOT THE
INTENTION LEGISLATION. OR THE
GOVERNOR OR THE AUTHOR BUT THE
FACT THAT IT'S GIVING THAT
AUTHORITY IN ITSELF- ALLOWS FOR
THIS KIND OF CONDUCT HAPPEN IT'S
ALREADY HAPPENING- AND SO MY
FEARS BY FURTHER EXPANDING. THE
DEFINITION OF GRAVELY DISABLED
IT'LL FURTHER EXACERBATE- A
LITTLE FURTHER EXACERBATE THE
CONDITIONS AGAIN THAT I
UNDERSTAND WHY CITIES WANTED.
THEY WANT STREETS CLEARED BUT
THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY LEND
ITSELF TO THE OUTCOME OF THAT IS
THE INTENTION OF THIS
LEGISLATION OTHER LEGISLATION
LIKE IT. AND SO I THINK IT WILL
REQUIRE ALL OF US- TO CONTINUE
MONITORING I KNOW THAT'S
SOMETHING OF THE AUTHOR AND
OTHERS I CONTINUE TO COMMIT THAT
THE YOU KNOW THIS IS NOT A ONE
SHOT THING IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE
GONNA. HAVE TO CONTINUE TO
RETURN TO- BUT- I'VE- I DO A
PRINT I DO APPRECIATE MEMBERS
THE COMMITTEE AND THEN THE
AUTHORS ARE ACCEPTING OF THOSE
NAMES I DO THINK THE AMENDMENTS.
HAVE MADE IT BETTER- BUT I'M
GONNA LAY OUT THIS BILL THIS
TIME AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY
OTHER MOVEMENT OF SOME OF THE
ISSUES INCLUDING HERE- AND THE
DEFINITIONS OF THAT KIND OF
BROADER- NECK- GRAVELY DISABLED
IF AT THE ANY OF THOSE ARE
IMPROVED UPON- PRIOR TO THIS
REGION. ON THE FOURTH YOU IF THE
CHAIR WOULD- AND FIRMS NOW
THERE'S NO QUESTION. MISTER
HANEY. THANK YOU MISS CHAIRMAN
AND THANK YOU. CENTER FOR YOU
FOR YOUR LEAD AND CAN TO ON ON
THIS IS AND TO BRING IT BACK-
THIS HAS BEEN A TOP PRIORITY FOR
CITY AND COUNTY THAT I REPRESENT
AS WELL AS MANY OF THE CITIES
AND COUNTIES ESPECIALLY. THE BIG
CITIES THAT ARE STRUGGLING WITH
HOW TO SUPPORT PEOPLE WHO ARE
SUFFERING AND IN NEED OF. A
SUPPORT AND TREATMENT I LIVE IN
THE TENDERLOIN I'VE REPRESENTED
DOWNTOWN SAN FRANCISCO FOR YEARS
BEFORE COMING HERE WORKED ON
THIS ISSUE. VISITED ALL OF OUR
MOST OF OUR TREATMENT FACILITIES
ARE HOSPITALS ARE PSYCHIATRIC
WARDS ARE DONE RIDE ALONGS. AND
THIS IS A CONCERN- THAT COMES UP
AGAIN AND AGAIN FROM OUR MEDICAL
PROFESSIONALS AND PUBLIC HEALTH
PROFESSIONALS WHO ARE TRYING TO
HELP PEOPLE. I ABSOLUTELY
UNDERSTAND. AND AGREE WITH THE
CONCERNS ABOUT NOT INCARCERATING
PEOPLE THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS IS.
THIS IS TRYING TO GET PEOPLE
HELP AND SUPPORT AND TREATMENT
WHO RIGHT NOW WE CAN'T MEDICAL
PROFESSIONALS ANYONE OF US WHO
WALK OUTSIDE. SEE PEOPLE THAT WE
KNOW NEED HELP. AND WE'RE NOT
ABLE TO HELP THEM RIGHT NOW. AND
WHEN MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS AND
PUBLIC HEALTH PROFESSIONALS AS
THEY ARE IN ON SUPPORTING THIS
BILL ARE TELLING US. THAT
THEY'RE LIMITED IN HELPING
PEOPLE WHO NEED IT. I THINK WE
NEED TO MAKE A CHANGE. WE HAVE
A- A PARAMEDIC OUTREACH TEAM IN
SAN FRANCISCO CALLED EMS SIX.
EMS SIX GOES OUT AND- SERVES
THOSE WHO ARE THE HIGHEST USERS
OF NINE ONE ONE IN OUR CITY.
SOMETIMES THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO
HAVE HAD NINE ONE ONE CALLS
HUNDREDS OF TIMES IN A SINGLE
YEAR. THESE ARE FOLKS WHO AND I
SAT THERE. IN THE HOSPITAL WITH
THE PARAMEDICS WITH THE
FIREFIGHTERS WITH THE DOCTORS
TALKING TO THEM ABOUT HOW THEY
CAN HELP THESE FOLKS AND AVOID
THEM FROM CONTINUOUSLY BEING
CYCLED ON AND OFF THE STREETS.
AND WHAT THEY SAID IS WE DON'T
HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO HOLD THIS
PERSON ANY LONGER. BECAUSE OF
THE LIMITATIONS IN THE LAW AND
IF WE DID EVEN FOR SEVENTY TWO
HOURS IS NOT ALWAYS A
CONSERVATORSHIP SOME. SEVENTY
TWO HOURS NOW WE HAVE A FOURTEEN
DAY WE HAVE WAYS THAT WE CAN
HOLD PEOPLE FOR LONGER TO TRY
TO. CONNECT THEM TO TREATMENT
OFF INVOLUNTARY TREATMENT. MORE
OFTEN THAN NOT VOLUNTARY
TREATMENT. AND WE RIGHT NOW ARE
NOT ABLE TO DO THAT FOR MANY OF
THE PEOPLE WHO ARE MOST IN NEED
IN OUR MOST SUFFERING. AND WE
TALK ABOUT THE COST OF IT-
THERE'S FEW THINGS MORE
EXPENSIVE. THAN CONTINUOUSLY
PICKING UP THE SAME PERSON OFF
AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN WITH
OUR AMBULANCES AND FIRE TRUCKS
AND MULTIPLE PEOPLE WHEN IF WE
WERE ABLE TO CONNECT THAT
PERSON. TO TREATMENT TO HOUSING
TO SHELTER WE WOULD BE ABLE TO
BOTH HELP THEM. POTENTIALLY SAVE
THEIR LIVES AND SAVE MONEY WHILE
WE WHILE WE DO IT. SO I YOU KNOW
I THINK THAT THE WORK THAT
YOU'VE DONE TO TELL. SOME OF
THAT CAN. HERE ARE IMPORTANT AND
I AND I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND
THEIR CONCERNS AROUND. PEOPLE'S
RIGHTS I ALSO BELIEVE THAT RIGHT
NOW- THIS THE LAW AS IT IS
PREVENTING US FROM HELPING MANY
OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE MOST IN
NEED. N. WHEN A MEDICAL
PROFESSIONAL PUBLIC HEALTH
PROFESSIONAL HE'S SAYING IF YOU
GAVE ME SEVENTY TWO MORE HOURS
AND ALSO THE OTHER THING I WAS
A- ONE THE ONE HAND WERE SAYING
THERE'S NONE OF BAD TO NON THE
FACILITIES ALL THAT. THAT'S
ABSOLUTELY TRUE AND WE NEED A
LOT MORE OF THAT BUT PARTLY
BECAUSE OF THAT. THEY'RE NOT OUT
THERE TRYING TO HOLD EVERY
SINGLE PERSON UNNECESSARILY IN
FACT I THINK THERE'S A LOT MORE
PEOPLE WHO THEY'D LIKE TO HELP.
IN THIS CASE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
THE PEOPLE WHO ARE MOST IN
DANGER AND MOST IN NEED ARE THE
ONLY ONES THAT THEY EVEN HAVE
SPACE TO HOLD FOR A BIT LONGER
OUR- HOSPITAL SYSTEMS IN OUR-
TREATMENT FACILITIES ARE
STRAINED TO THE LEVEL. THAT THEY
CAN'T HELP EVERYONE THAT THEY
NEED TO SELL THIS WILL ALLOW
THEM TO HELP THOSE WHO ARE MOST
IN NEED AND HAVE THE TOOLS TO DO
SO. I AND THERE ARE SPACES FOR
THEM WE NEED A LOT MORE SPACES
FOR MORE PEOPLE- BUT THE REALITY
IS THAT THIS DOES SHORTER TERM
HOLD ARE ACTUALLY ABLE TO
CONNECT PEOPLE. IF WE HAVE A
LITTLE MORE TIME. TO VOLUNTARY
TREATMENT AND IN SOME CASES THE
MOST SEVERE CASES. I A
CONSERVATORSHIP IS THE RIGHT.
APPROACH FOR PEOPLE SO I THANK
YOU FOR THIS I'M- I ASKED TO BE.
ADDED AS A CO AUTHOR. AND I AND
LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO
WORK ON THIS ISSUE. WITH YOU AND
TO HELP PEOPLE IN OUR
COMMUNITIES- WHO ARE SICK AND
WHO DESPERATELY NEED OUR CARE
AND ATTENTION THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. SEEN NO FURTHER QUESTIONS
OR COMMENTS- I WANT TO THANK YOU
FOR BRINGING THIS BILL I THINK
THIS IMPORTANT AS SOMEBODY- WHO.
BOTH CREATED AND OPERATED. A
PROGRAMS MUST SIGNIFICANT
PORTION MY CAREER WORKING WITH
THE CHRONICALLY HOMELESS THE
SERIOUSLY MENTALLY ILL- AND-
BEGAN A PROGRAM IN SAN DIEGO.
AND THEN OPERATED IT WHICH WAS
VERY VERY SUCCESSFUL. THIS IS
THIS IS IMPORTANT. THIS IS A
HUGE PIECE OF THE PUZZLE THAT'S
IMPORTANT. ALL OF US KNOW WHEN
WE WALK. DOWN A STREET AND WE
SEE SOMEBODY ON THE STREET
CORNER. WHO'S UNDERGOING SEVERE
MENTAL CRISIS WE KNOW THEY NEED
HELP ALL OF US WOULD SAY THAT.
AND WHAT'S- AND WHAT'S NOT- I
WOULD ARGUE THAT IT'S NOT HUMANE
TO LEAVE THAT PERSON ON THE
STREET CORNER. WHO'S IN CRISIS.
AND WHO NEEDS HELP. BECAUSE
WHERE THEY CAN AGO WHERE DO THEY
GO NOW BIGELOW BASICALLY. ONE OF
TWO PLACES JAIL WHICH IS A
TERRIBLE PLACE THE LAST PLACE
YOU WANT TO SEND SOMEBODY. WHO'S
AND MENTAL CRISIS IS JAIL. OR
THEY GO TO A HOSPITAL. I CAN ER
WHERE. THEY DON'T GET HELP. THEY
ARE TAKING UP A BAD THAT ALL OF
OUR- FOR SERVICES THAT THEY'RE
NOT GETTING FOR TAKING UP ANY
ARE BAD THAT ALL OF OUR REGIONS
NEED FOR. OTHER EMERGENCIES
THEY'RE COMING BACK AGAIN AND
AGAIN THE PEOPLE I WORK WITH
THREE IT WENT. INDIVIDUALS OVER
THREE HUNDRED DAYS A YEAR WENT
TO THE ER COMMUNITIES HERE. TAKE
AN AMBULANCE. TO ALL THAT AND
WASN'T GETTING BETTER. THE THIRD
THEY DIE ON THE STREET. WHICH
IS. A TERRIBLE RESULT. THIS WILL
HELP ALLEVIATE THAT PROBLEM THIS
WILL HELP GET THAT INDIVIDUAL
AND- TO HAVE MEDICAL ATTENTION.
AND ONCE THAT MEDICAL ATTENTION
HAPPENS THEY CAN START ADDRESS
IT GIVES THEM A CHANCE TO MAKE
HUGE CHANGES IN THEIR LIFE AND
WE'VE SEEN THAT- SO I WILL BE
SUPPORTING THIS TODAY I THINK
THIS IS. A STEP IN THE BIG STEP
IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION TO MAKE
SURE THAT OUR CITIES AND OUR
COUNTIES. CAN DEAL WITH PEOPLE
WHO REALLY NEED THIS OUT THERE
IN SEVERE SEVERE CRISIS. AND
THIS WILL HELP. THEM LIVE A MORE
FULL LIFE- SO WITHOUT. THE
CEREMONY CLOSE THANK YOU VERY
MUCH AND THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING
HERE TODAY I THINK THAT YOUR
SUMMIT UP WITH A WITH A LOVELY
CLOTHES WERE NOT LOOKING TO JUST
TAKE PEOPLE. **** NILLY OFF
STREETS WERE TO HELP THE PEOPLE
WHO NEED HELP THE MOST WE TRY TO
FREE UP OUR OUR SYSTEM SO WE CAN
ACTUALLY TREAT PEOPLE AND HELP
GET THEM BETTER. VERSUS JUST
TRIAGING THEM OVER AND OVER AND
OVER AGAIN UNTIL THEY END UP
DEAD AND IMPRISON I'M SORRY OF
THE DISPLAY RIGHT FOLKS ARE
TIRED OF ME HEARING ME SAY
PEOPLE ARE. DYING WITH THEIR
RIGHTS ON WE'RE ALL TIRED OF
SEEING IT AND BEING A PART OF IT
THIS IS JUST ONE MORE STEP IN
THE CONTINUE OF CARE. LET'S
COMPLETED I ASK FOR YOUR AYE
VOTE THANK YOU TO HAVE MOTION.
MOTION FOR MR CHECKUPS FROM THIS
SANCHEZ. AND FOR THE RECORD YOU
GET ACCEPTED DID ACCEPT THE
MOTION IS AT TO PASS AS AMENDED
TO THEY APPROACH. COMMITTEE ASK
TO PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. MAN HI
MISS I. SA. CONNOLLY CONNELLY I
DIXON. DIXON I. EIGHTY FIVE
ANNIE I CALL. THE CHECK OUT.
FIVE WOULD ALSO LIKE YEAH. THE
CHECKER I HAPPEN. I UP. HAVE A
NICE. REYES.
I'M SORRY YEAH I GOT SO EXCITED
I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY OKAY THEN
YOU'RE ALL OF ME AS A CO AUTHOR
THIS WANT TO. THIS ONE HAS TO DO
WITH CREDIT. YEAH AND I DON'T
KNOW ABOUT THE REST YOU BUT I
HAVE PRETTY GOOD CREDIT I'M
PROUD OF THAT CREDIT I PUT MY
SCHOOL UP AGAINST ANYBODY. BUT
IF YOU NEED A HOUSING VOUCHER
YOU MAY NOT HAVE GOOD CREDIT AND
WE SHOULDN'T BE SURPRISED WE
SHOULD NOT BE SURPRISED IF YOU
DON'T HAVE GOOD CREDIT. AND YOU
NEED A HOUSING VOUCHER- AND AS
WE KNOW TRYING TO GET PEOPLE
HOUSING CALIFORNIA IS ONE OF THE
MOST IMPORTANT THINGS WELL FOLKS
GET THAT SECTION EIGHT VOUCHERS
UP MENTAL HEALTH DOCTOR WHATEVER
IT IS THEY KNOW THAT PAYS 70% OF
THE RENT. BUT THEY GO TO A
LANDLORD A LANDLORD SAYS LET'S
RUN A CREDIT CHECK FOR THAT LAST
THIRTY PERCENT. AND YOU GET A
TERRIBLE CREDIT REPORT THAT
SHOULDN'T BE THE REASON PEOPLE
GET TURNED DOWN WE SHOULD EXPECT
THEY HAVE BAD CREDIT THIS SIMPLY
SAYS. THAT THEY HAVE AN OPTION
TO PRESENT SOMETHING ELSE. BUT
THE BESIDES JUST THEIR CREDIT
REPORT PAYSTUB ARE BLESSED UP
SOMETHING LIKE THAT SO THERE WE
TOOK A- AMENDMENTS TO A
VERIFIABLE. SOURCE THAT THEY CAN
PAY THAT THIRTY PERCENT. THEY
CAN USE THAT HOUSING VOUCHER WE
CAN HELP PEOPLE GET HOUSED. AND
I HAVE WITH ME TODAY AT REBEKAH
FROM NSW. AND THAT MY FRIEND
FROM HOUSING AUTHORITY. FIRST
CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE
MY NAME IS REBECCA GONZALEZ MY
HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF THE
NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF SOCIAL
WORKERS CALIFORNIA CHAPTER WE
REPRESENT APPROXIMATELY MANDATE
NINE THOUSANDS PROFESSIONAL
SOCIAL WORKERS IN CALIFORNIA.
WHO HAVE NAY DEGREE FROM AN
ACCREDITED SCHOOL OF SOCIAL
WORK. I'M SPEAKING AS PART OF S.
B. TWO SIX SEVEN. CURRENTLY
INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE SEEKING
HOUSING OR PROTECTED BY THE
CALIFORNIA FAIR EMPLOYMENT AND
HOUSING ACT WHICH PROTECTS
INDIVIDUALS FROM DISCRIMINATION.
HOWEVER HAVING POOR CREDIT
REMAINS A SIGNIFICANT BARRIER TO
OBTAINING A STABLE HOUSING
SITUATION. ACCORDING TO RESEARCH
CREDIT SCORES ARE SIGNIFICANT
AND PERSISTENT HINDRANCE TO
ACQUIRING HOUSING CREDIT SCORES
ARE INTRICATE FORMULAS THAT MAY
BE DAMAGED DUE TO UNPAID MEDICAL
EXPENSES SEVERE I PERSONAL
PREDICAMENTS OR BILLS SIMPLY
GOING UNPAID BECAUSE OF POVERTY.
NEVER THE LESS CREDIT REPORTS DO
NOT ALWAYS INDICATE THE
COMPLICATED REASONS FOR LOW
CREDIT SCORES FOR EXAMPLE A
PERSON WITH A POOR CREDIT
HISTORY DUE TO UNPAID BILLS MAY
HAVE POOR CREDIT. SPECIFICALLY
BECAUSE THEY CHOOSE TO
PRIORITIZE RENT OVER OTHER
EXPENSES THE REPORT LACKS NUANCE
AND DOES NOT GIVE THE FULL
PICTURE ABOUT ABOUT WHY A PERSON
HANDLED DAT. FURTHERMORE A
CREDIT SCORE IS AN INDICATION
ABOUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE
PAST AND NOT DOES NOT SHOW WHAT
THE PERSON IS NOW. WHEN AN
INDIVIDUAL HAS RECEIVED A
HOUSING VOUCHER THEY OFTEN HAVE
CONNECTED THEMSELVES TO OTHER
RESOURCES SB TWO SIX SEVEN WILL
ALLOW MORE VOUCHER HOLDERS AND
OPPORTUNITIES TO SECURE HOUSING
BY ALLOWING POTENTIAL TENANTS TO
PRESENT PROOF THEIR FINANCIAL.
CAPABILITY TO MAKE PAYMENTS
ESSENTIALLY THIS BILL IS ABOUT
PROVIDING A FAIRER MORE ACCURATE
PICTURE ABOUT WHERE POTENTIAL
TENET IS FINANCIALLY WITH THE
HOPE OF ALLOWING THESE CRUCIAL
HOUSING VETERAN VOUCHERS TO GET
MORE PEOPLE AND FAMILIES INDOORS
AND SAFE. WE ARE TONIGHT VOTE
THANK YOU. NEXT WITNESS HELLO HI
MAJOR DAS WITH CALIFORNIA
PARTNER. WHERE PRIVATE NON.
THOSE CREATE BY THE LEAD. FOR
INCREASE THE SUPPLY OF
AFFORDABLE AND SUSTAINABLE HOMES
FOR LOW INCOME CALIFORNIANS. I'M
NOT GONNA ADD TOO MUCH TO WHAT
WAS SAID BUT I WOULD SAY THAT
THE USE OF CREDIT AS THE
INDICATOR FINANCIAL SPOTS
ABILITY HAS AGGRAVATED. THE HOME
OF THIS CRISIS THAT WE HAVE BY
PREVENTING LOW INCOME
CALIFORNIANS FROM OBTAINING
STABLE HOUSING. I JUST WANT TO
END WITH A QUOTE THAT READ IN
THE ANALYSIS TODAY WHICH IS THIS
BILL RECOGNIZE EMERGING TRUE.
CREDIT HISTORY IS NOT A RELIABLE
PROXY FOR ABILITY TO PAY.
WITHOUT AND SHORTLY AND I THANK
YOU FOR YOUR TIME THANK YOU FOR
WITNESSES AND SUPPORT NAME AN
ORGANIZATION ONLY. GOOD MORNING
CASSIE MANZINI ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA SCHOOL EMPLOYEES
ASSOCIATION AND SUPPORT. GOOD
MORNING LINDA WAY WITH WESTERN
CENTER ON LAW AND POVERTY IN
SUPPORT. SIR FLOCKS CALIFORNIA
LABOR FEDERATION IN SUPPORT.
DIFFICULTY WITH THE CALIFORNIA
APARTMENT ASSOCIATION I WANT TO
THANK THE AUTHOR FOR TAKING THE
AMENDMENTS WE'VE REMOVED OUR
OPPOSITION THANK YOU THANK YOU
SEEN NO FURTHER WITNESSES AND
SUPPORT WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION
. OKAY. MISTER CHAIRMAN
PREPARING WITH THEIR AND READING
ASSOCIATES REPRESENTING THE
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA RENTAL
HOUSING ASSOCIATION WE ARE
OPPOSED TO THE BILL WE DO
APPRECIATE THE MOMENTS- THE
CENTERS TAKEN ON THE BILL- AND
WE DO REALIZE THAT THIS BILL
ALLOWS US TO USE CREDIT REPORTS.
TO DETERMINE SOMEONE'S. ABILITY
TO PAY AND THAT'S WHAT WE RELY
ON TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION WE
HAVE TO MITIGATE RISK IN SOME
WAY. AND THIS ALLOWS US TO DO
THAT IT MAY NOT BE PERFECT BUT
IT'S WHAT WE HAVE. WE USE CREDIT
REPORTS REGARDLESS OF. WHETHER
OR NOT SOMEONE USING IT RECEIVES
A CREDIT VOUCHER OR OR NOT- I
GUESS THE BIGGEST STICKING POINT
FORCE AT THIS POINT. SINCE SHE'S
AMENDED THE BILL IS IF THE
APPLICANT CHOOSES TO. AVAIL
THEMSELVES OF THE LOG THEY CAN
PROVIDE ALTERNATIVE. INFORMATION
TO MY CLIENT TO DETERMINE
WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAVE AN
ABILITY TO PAY THE RENT AND IT
ALLOWS IN A REASONABLE TIME TO
PRESENT THAT INFORMATION TO THEM
WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT A
REASONABLE TIME. IS WHILE
THEY'RE COBBLING TOGETHER THAT
INFORMATION THAT UNIT STAYS
VACANT AT THAT UNIT STAYS VACANT
MY CLIENT DOESN'T COLLECT RENT.
ON THAT UNIT A UNIT THAT MAY BE
VACANT BECAUSE SOMEONE WAS
EVICTED FROM IT WHICH TOOK SIX
MONTHS WHICH- DURING THAT TIME.
THERE WAS NO RENT. BEING
COLLECTED FOR THAT UNIT SO. FOR
THOSE REASONS WE ARE CURRENTLY-
OPPOSED TO THE BILL THANK YOU
THANK YOU. FOR THE LATEST IN
OPPOSITION. INTERFERE WITH
CAPITAL ADVOCACY ON BEHALF THE
CALIFORNIA RENTAL HOUSING
ASSOCIATION IN OPPOSITION THANK
YOU SEE NO FURTHER WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION MISTER KALRA. THANK
YOU MISTER CHAIR LIKE TO MOVE
THE BILL- MUM I'M VERY HAPPY A
CO AUTHOR ON THIS BILL- AS
INDICATED IN THE PRIOR HEARING
WHAT KIND OF QUESTION IN
EXISTING INCLUDE BELIEVED TO
NINETY EIGHTY NINE SO THERE'S-
THERE'S A SENSE THAT THIS IS
SOMETHING THAT'S ACTUALLY
MANDATORY IN ORDER TO DETERMINE
SOMEONE'S ABILITY TO PAY IS
JUST. NOT TRUE HAS BEEN USED AS
AN ADDITIONAL BARRIER.
ESPECIALLY FOR LOW INCOME
FAMILIES FAMILIES THAT ARE
TRYING TO GET OUT WE ALREADY
KNOW HOW HEARD WE'VE HEARD IT
FROM SOME OF OUR COLLEAGUES A
HARD HEARTED IS. A TO BE ABLE TO
GET INTO A UNIT WITH FIRST LAST
ALL THAT STUFF WE HAVE ON THE
LEGISLATION DEALING WITH THAT-
BUT DOES ALSO MENTIONED
PREVIOUSLY IN MY- THE FIRST HOME
BE MOVED INTO- MONEY CAME TO
THIS COUNTRY MY FATHER RENTS OUT
SECTION EIGHT. AND HAS FOR
DECADES NOW- HE STARTED
ACTUALLY. VENTING IS ACTUALLY
BEFORE QUITE REPORTS EXISTED-
AND EVEN TO THIS DAY WHEN I'VE
ASKED HIM SUGGESTED YOU WOULD
NEED IS ACTUALLY NOT. THE FOR
THE READ THE SOMEONE. IF YOU
THINK IT'S EASY TO GET ABOUT
SURE HOW IT'S NOT EASY SOMETIMES
OF THE WAY FOR YEARS. SOME FOLKS
ARE HEAVILY VETTED JUST TO BE
ABLE TO QUALIFY. OF FOR MANY OF
THESE VOUCHERS THERE'S NO NEED
TO PUT AN ADDITIONAL BARRIER.
ADDITIONAL REASON TO NOT RENT TO
A TO A FAMILY THAT OTHERWISE-
DESERVES TO LIVE. IN THE SAME
NEIGHBORHOODS AND COMMUNITIES WE
DO THANK YOU. THIS THE NEW YORK.
MISTER YEAH AND I WOULD LIKE BE
ADDED TO A CO AUTHOR THINK.
THERE'S A IMPORTANT IN HERE
WHICH- I. WHICH IS THAT-
SOMETIMES PEOPLE HAVE PRIORITIZE
PAYING RENT OR OTHER BILLS I
THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO
NOTE- THEY MAY HAVE NEVER MISTER
A RENTAL RENTAL PAYMENT BUT- THE
OTHER BILLS HAVE SOMETIMES ADDED
UP AND- CREDIT. HISTORY I THINK
DOES TEND TO PUNISH LOWER INCOME
PEOPLE AND SO- THERE ARE A
VARIETY OF REASONS WHY PEOPLE
CAN STRUGGLE WITH THERE CREDIT
HISTORY I KNOW I DIDN'T REALIZE
UNTIL I WAS. LATER IN MY
TWENTIES- WHEN I FIRST THE
TYPICAL CREDIT CREDIT REPORT TO
SEE THAT MY STUDENT LOAN
PAYMENTS COUNTED AGAINST IT AND
I HAD BAD CREDIT BECAUSE I HAD
MISSED. YOU KNOW SALLY MAKE
CALLS AND YOU'D ALWAYS PICK UP
AND SO. THERE ARE THERE ARE ARE
. REASONS WHY- PEOPLE AND UP YOU
KNOW HAVING. CREDIT AND SO
THEY'D BE ABLE TO PROVE THAT
THROUGH OTHER MEANS THAT THEY'RE
ABLE TO PAY THE RENT IS REALLY
IMPORTANT AND SO. I THINK THIS
IS A GOOD BILL AND APPRECIATE
THE WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE ON
THANK YOU MS MCKENNA. YES I ALSO
LIKE TO BE ADDED TO ASK. THAT
THEY IS A- REALLY REALLY
IMPORTANT L. JUST A QUICKLY. MY
MOTHER HAS A BAY FRIEND THAT
CAME HERE. IN MOVED FROM YORK TO
CALIFORNIA AND SHE'S- IN HOME
CARE SERVICE WORKER IN DURING
COVERT SHE LOST HER JOB. AND SHE
ENDED UP AT WITHIN A YEAR
GETTING ONE OF THESE VOUCHERS.
TO PAY HER WIT AND BY THE WAY
THE VOUCHERS HELP TO PAY THE
RENT SO SEVENTY PERCENT. YEAH I
DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU KNOW WHAT
WHY PEOPLE WOULDN'T RENT OUT TO
THESE FOLKS AND- SHE REALLY HAD
A HARD TIME. FINDING A PLACE YOU
HAVE THE RETIREMENT CHECK SHE
COULD PAY THE RENT. BUT IT BUT
OF COURSE SHE WAS STRUGGLING AND
THAT IS WHY YOU HAVE A VOUCHER.
IS BECAUSE YOU'RE STRUGGLING SO
THIS BILL IS SO IMPORTANT.
ESPECIALLY TO OUR SENIORS AND
OUR ELDER FOLKS SO I REALLY
APPRECIATE YOU FOR BRINGING THIS
FORWARD THANK YOU. THANK YOU WE
HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND MUCH
MISSED CAR SECTOR MISTER HANEY-
WITH THAT- SENATE MIMIC CLOSE.
YET THANK YOU VERY MUCH OF
OFFICE SUPPORT I COULDN'T
BELIEVE IT WHEN I WENT OUT TO
VISIT ONE OF MY HOUSING IS IN
THE SENATE BUT- I'M I. DON'T
TAKE THAT CREDIT CHECK FOR
SOMEONE ABOUT TO GO YES WE DO
AND IT KEEPS SO MANY PEOPLE OUT.
SO I THINK THIS IS VERY COMMON
SENSE. AGAIN SENIORS ARE OUR
FASTEST GOING INTO HOMELESSNESS
OFTEN DIFFERENCE BECAUSE OF
THINGS JUST LIKE THIS. AND THEY
MAY HAVE BAD CREDIT FROM.
SOMETIMES ABOUT TO LIVE ON THEIR
CREDIT CARDS BUT THEY PAY THEIR
RENT. SO I THINK A COMMON SENSE
MEASURE. IT'S CLOSE THAT GAP I
ASK FOR YOUR VOTE THANK YOU WITH
MOTIONS TO PASS APPROPRIATIONS
COMMITTEE ASKED THE COURT TO
PLEASE CALL. MAIENSCHEIN HI
MAIENSCHEIN I. SA. FINALLY
FINALLY I DIXON. HANEY HANEY I
KALRA. KALRA CZECHO. CHECKER I'D
HAPPEN. HAPPEN AYE REYES. SAN
OKAY- ACT CAN ARRIVE. THANK YOU
YOUR BILL IS OUT THANK YOU
SENATE. EYES UP.
LET'S START WITH SB FIVE SIXTY
SEVEN AND I KNOW YOU'RE
PRESENTING FOR SOMEONE ELSE AS
WELL AFTER THAT SO LET'S START
WITH SB FIVE SIX AND- THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING CHAIR OF P. SHAPED-
ALL OF YOU AND- THE CALIFORNIA
HOMELESSNESS PREVENTION ACT SB
FIVE SIX SEVEN WHICH WILL
PROTECT MANY LOW INCOME RENTERS
FROM UNJUST EVICTIONS AND
UNREASONABLE RENT INCREASES-
THESE ARE ISSUES THAT A TOP THE
REASONS. FOR HOMELESSNESS I WANT
TO START BY THANKING THE
COMMITTEE CHAIR VERY MUCH FOR
WORKING SO CLOSELY WITH US THE
STAFF AND THERE'S A SERIES OF
AMENDMENTS STARTING ON PAGE
TWELVE- TO FURTHER REFINE THE
SCOPE OF SB FIVE SIX SEVEN WHICH
I AM ACCEPTING. OF WE ALL KNOW
WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IN
VARIOUS WAYS THE STATE OF
HOMELESSNESS AND THE CRISIS HOW
IT IMPACTS SO MANY PEOPLE IN OUR
COMMUNITY- IS GROWING AND
GROWING AND GROWING EVERY TIME
THERE'S A COUNTER WE HAVEN'T
STOPPED IT. OF THE BILL BEFORE
YOU HAS TWO PRINCIPAL COMPONENTS
. WELL ADDRESSING A GLARING
LOOPHOLES WITH EXISTING
PROVISIONS THAT ARE. TOO VAGUE
AND DIFFICULT TO ENFORCE LEAVING
TENANTS OF SUSCEPTIBLE TO
EXPLOITATION SB FIVE SIX SEVEN
ALSO PROVIDES ENFORCEABILITY FOR
EXISTING PROTECTIONS. SO TENANTS
ARE ABLE TO DEFEND THEMSELVES
FROM UNJUST EVICTIONS THROUGH
PUBLIC AND PRIVATE ENFORCEMENT.
OF THESE DISTURBING TRENDS OF
ADDICTIONS AN AVERAGE OF A
HUNDRED AND SIXTY THOUSAND
HOUSEHOLDS FACE EVICTIONS
ANNUALLY. AW IT IS ESTIMATED ONE
POINT FIVE MILLION CALIFORNIANS
FACED EVICTIONS. DURING OF B.
YEAH AT EIGHT TWENTY EIGHTEEN
STUDY. OF THESE TRENDS WILL
CONTINUE TO WORSEN IF WE DO NOT
PROACTIVELY ADDRESS THE ROOT OF
THE PROBLEM. FIVE SIX SEVEN
PROVIDES CALIFORNIA'S HOUSING
STABILITY AND REDUCES THE NUMBER
OF PEOPLE ON THE BRINK OF
HOMELESSNESS WITH MADE TO
TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OUR FIRST LOW
NOTED GOODNESS. FOR LEADER WITH
FAITH IN ACTION EAST BAY MP.
CALIFORNIA SECOND MEDIA SO DON'T
. ATTENDANT FROM SALINAS
CALIFORNIA MISTLETOE WILL
PROVIDE HER TESTIMONY IN SPANISH
MISTER BRIAN AUGUSTA LEGISLATIVE
ADVOCATE FOR THE CALIFORNIA
RURAL LEGAL ASSISTANCE
FOUNDATION WILL HELP TO
TRANSLATE. OR NOT GIOVANNA
GIOVANNA OKAY SORRY- I THOUGHT
YOU HAD. CAREER IN THE. AND-
MISTER GUSTER WILL BE ABLE TO
QUESTIONS THANK YOU FIRST
WITNESS PLEASE. THANK YOU. MY
NAME IS THERE NO TO GO THEY MISS
AND I'M A LEADER AND FAITH IN
ACTION EAST BAY AND PEOPLE
CALIFORNIA. AND A MEMBER OF THE
SOCIAL JUSTICE MINISTRY AT ST
ANTHONY'S CHURCH IN OAKLAND. I
AM A SMALL LANDLORD IN OAKLAND
AND I SUPPORT SB FIVE SIX SEVEN
IT WON'T HURT SMALL LANDLORDS
AND WILL HELP PREVENT TENANTS
FROM UNNECESSARY EVICTIONS. I
HAVE BEEN A SMALL LAND LOAD IN
OAKLAND FOR OVER FORTY YEARS
DURING THAT TIME THE CITY OF
OAKLAND IMPLEMENTED RENT
CONTROL. AND I EVAN FORESEES
RENT CAPS IN MY UNITS. BUT I
KNOW THAT NOT ALL LANDLORDS DO.
AND I KNOW THAT LANDLORDS OFTEN
EVOKED UNJUSTLY SB SIX FIVE SIX
SEVEN CLOSES LOOPHOLES IN JUST
CAUSE PROTECTIONS AND
STRENGTHENS ENFORCEMENT. WHEN I
RETIRED I THOUGHT A LOT ABOUT
WHAT I WANTED TO DO IN MY WHEN I
GREW UP RIGHT- I WANTED TO BE OF
SERVICE IN SOME WAY. AND I
DETERMINED THAT FOR ME WHEN I
LOOKED AT. A WHAT WAS AROUND THE
FOR THE FAMILY CORE WAS THE
ESSENCE IN SOCIETY. THAT IF THE
FAMILY CORE IS STRONG. THAT
UNSTABLE THAT A CHILD HAS A
BETTER CHANCE OF SUCCESS. BUT
HOW CAN YOU HAVE THAT SUCCESS IF
YOU'RE HOUSING IS UNSTABLE. I
SEE FIVE SIX SEVEN AS A
NECESSARY COMPONENT IN MY WORK.
OF HAVING THE COR FAMILY- BE
STABLE. HOME IS SACRED. THAT IS
WHY A SUPPORT SB FIVE SIX SEVEN
. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. NEXT
WITNESS PLEASE. FROM ALAMI
NUMBER ISN'T IT YES ALL DAHLE SA
KEY BUT A SAID IN TESTIMONIAL-
OF ALSO A LOT IS SERVICING
COURSES AND THEY SAID. ARE YOU
ALSO UNANIMOUS OR THAT OTHER
THAT IS THE WHOLE WE WENT SILENT
AS BAILEY. EIGHT A WHOLE I LOT
OF ANY YOU MAY BE A BAD SAN
GOING AND ON THE- A IN DAUGHTER
LOW METERING TO MADE MEDIA A
MUSEUM ENOUGH I REMOTE MONICA
THE I LOCAL. THEY ARE IN HOLIDAY
IF IS EITHER IS. THE WILL BE
ALMOST AS THEY ARE SETTLED ANOS
MIDWEST YOU KNOW IN.
THE S. BUT I THIS HELLO HI THIS
IS A FINAL PART OF THE MENTAL
AND ON THOSE FORMULAS LETTER TO
SAY I THAT. E. LAMEA NESTLED BY
GOT MORE ME LOS AND THOSE WHEN
THEY IT THEY THEY ARE IN. AS A
GOVERNMENT THEY'VE BEEN THAT HE
HAS A WITH THIS OPEN BY TO MEET
UP AT THE BOTTOM FOR ASK ON AND
I FROM YOU PORTAL MEAL INTO SINK
WHEN. LOS THE WAY OUR THAT AS
KEELAN ALL OF THAT ALL OVER
THREE LOS STEP OUT OF THE- HELLO
TO FORMULATE BUT A CIENTOS IN
MILAN. MY.
SERVICES LOOK AT BAYRAVAND THIS
. I LOVE PROJECT IDEAS NOT TO
TALK AND IT GOT US ON BUT ALSO
GOT A LOT A LOT FOR ME YES I
LIKE AYE YAY A LOS WELCOME OF
THINGS IS. THE MAJORITY OF THE
LAST STANDING K. COMPARTE BEYOND
ON THE ALSO THE IS FOR ME YES
BUT I FOR THE BY GOT A- COASTAL
ESTOY M. TRY LAW OF THE GUYS YOU
UNDER ME THEN I OF SEE HOW THE
LAST. THAT THERE MUST BE I DO
NOT THOSE IS STILL GATHERED MY
WHOSE WHAT IS A STORY LET'S BE
LOOK AT BOY YENICE BEGET BULLET
SO SINGLE TO CENTER SEE AT THE.
SINCE THAT'S JUST- HI GOOD ARE-
MY NAME IS NEED YES ALTHOUGH I
AM MISSING MOTHER THREE IN I
LIVE IN SETTING UP. I WORK FOR
THE NON B. H. C. IN IT ACTUALLY
COUNCIL IN THE COUNTY OF- IN OCT
TWENTY TWO MY FOR AND MY
NEIGHBOR RECEIVE AN EVICTION
LETTER FOR THE CALL OF THREE
APARTMENTS WERE HAD BEEN FOR TWO
YEARS. MY NEIGHBORS HAVE BEEN
THERE FOR EVEN EVEN LONGER THAT
TWELVE YEAR AGO TO THE LAW THEY
WERE PLANNING FOR A AND
PLUMBING. AND THEY MIGHT EVEN
TORN DOWN THE APARTMENTS- THEY
GIVE US SIXTY DAYS THEY WERE TWO
ELDERLY FAMILIES AND MY OWN WE
PAID A THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED
NINETY SEVEN DOLLARS IN RENT.
EXACTLY TWENTY DAYS AFTER MOVING
OUT THE SAME APARTMENT WAS
RENTED TO A NEW FAMILY FOR TWO
THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED AND FIFTY
DOLLARS THE OWNERS AND NOW RENT
THE OTHER APARTMENTS TO NEW
FAMILIES FOR EIGHT HUNDRED AND A
THOUSAND DOLLARS MORE- FINDING A
NEW HOME WAS VERY STRESSFUL- AND
NOW A 100% OF MY INCOME GOES TO
PAY FOR. A ROOF FOR MY FAMILY
AND EACH MONTH A TOTAL WE PAY A
TOTAL OF THREE THOUSAND EIGHT
HUNDRED TWENTY NINE DOLLARS
ALMOST THREE TIMES WHAT I WAS
PREVIOUSLY PAIN. THE OWNERS
REALLY DO NOT TOUCH THEIR HEARTS
WHEN THEY PUSH FAMILIES OUT ON
THE STREET. MOST FAMILIES HAVE
TO SHARE HOUSING WITH TWO OR
THREE FAMILIES TO BE ABLE TO PAY
THE COST OF RENT. THIS HARMS OUR
CHILDREN'S EDUCATION AND
EVERYONE'S MENTAL HEALTH WE MUST
PUT A STOP TO ALL THIS THAT IS
REALLY UNFAIR. THIS IS WHY I
ASK. FOR YOU TO SUPPORT THIS
BILL SB FIVE SIX SEVEN. THANK
YOU. FOR THE WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT. NAME AN ORGANIZATION
ONLY IF ANY. GOOD AFTERNOON
CHAIR BRIAN ADDRESSED ON BEHALF
OF THE CALIFORNIA RURAL LEGAL
ASSISTANCE FOUNDATION IN SUPPORT
. NICOLE ORNAMENT ON BEHALF OF
THE CHILDREN'S PARTNERSHIP IN
SUPPORT. THE NEW WHAT THE SENATE
ORGANIZING PROJECT AND PEOPLE
CALIFORNIANS SUPPORT. MY NAME IS
THAT IS A BAD EXAMPLE IN SAN
DIEGO ON I'M WHICH ON THE ORDER
AND I SIMPLE YET. BE GO AND I'M
IN SUPPORT OF SB FIVE HE SAID.
MY NAME IS CHARLOTTE JONES I'M
FROM SAN DIEGO. TO SAN DIEGO
ORGANIZING PROJECT I AM IN
SUPPORT OF FIVE SIX SEVEN. GOOD
MORNING MY NAME IS CHRISTY
FIGUEROA TENNIS AND I'M WITH THE
SAN DIEGO ORGANIZING PROJECT AND
BEEN A VICTIM TWICE OF. OF
ALMOST LOSING MY HOME. AND I AM
IN SUPPORT OF. HELLO MY NAME IS
ASHLEY MENDIOLA I'M FROM SAN
DIEGO ALSO PART OF SAN DIEGO OR
IS IT ORGANIZING PROJECT AND
PEOPLE CALIFORNIA AND I'M IN
SUPPORT. HI GOOD MORNING MY NAME
IS LORD AS FAR HAD- SAN DIEGO
ORGANIZING PROJECT AND BE CALL
CALIFORNIA I AM IN SUPPORT OF
THE S. B. FIVE SIX SEVEN THANK
YOU. HELLO GOOD MORNING MY NAME
IS ARISTADA I AM A PART OF CENY
A GO ORGANIZING PROJECT IN
KEUCHEL CALIFORNIA. AND I
SUPPORT THIS BILL. GOOD MORNING
MY NAME IS THE AREA OX. I AM
WITH SACRAMENTO ACT IN PICO ARE
YOU A TEAM MASSIVE ASSAM BORN IN
OAK PARK AND I SUPPORT THIS BILL
THANK YOU. ANY KIND OF ON ON
BEHALF OF PEOPLE CALIFORNIA NINE
FEDERATIONS IN SUPPORT OF SB
FIVE SIX SEVEN AND A PROUD CO
SPONSOR. GOOD MORNING MY NAME IS
PATTY SHAW I'M A MEMBER OF SAC
ACT AND PEOPLE CALIFORNIA AND I
STRONGLY SUPPORT. FIVE SIX
SEVEN. ONE OF THE S. OF THOSE
MINIMALIST AT THE BUS TERMINAL
CEREMONY SODA EATING CLEANER
TAMBIÉN GONE I SENT OFF A WAR
THE LIE IS A MISSING BECAUSE
THEY SEE IT THEY GOOD MORNING
EVERYONE MY NAME IS EDITH
ESTRADA ORGANIZER WITH ACE ALSO
A TENANT. IN SUPPORT OF SB FIVE
SIX SEVEN. GOOD MORNING MY NAME
IS YOLANDA FLORES I'M A MEMBER
OF AS FROM RICHMOND AND I
SUPPORT. THE NUMBER OF HELLO
GONZALEZ I REMEMBER THEY USED TO
BE WHAT IT IS FOR CALIFORNIA AT
THE- FIVE WATER THEY LACK SHINKO
CHC THE- AND A GOING. FROM
RICHMOND IN SUPPORT. ONE OF THE
OTHER MINIMUM WHAT THE FRONTAGE
OF ENGLISH ON PHOTO CALIFORNIA.
THAT ASSUME YEP WE BECAUSE THEY
IT THEY CAN TO. WATERS FROM
PABLO INTO. ONE OF THE S.
MINIMALIST FRIEDMAN ABOUT IT
THIS WAY THE RICHMOND AND- AND
WHAT IS YOUR ASSET YES THEY HAVE
THE LIES OF A SINGLE SAY SAID.
SWEETMAN THE RICHMOND AND.
ANYTHING. HI MY NAME IS LAST
KISS IN I'M A GONNA SIT WITH A-
AND STRONG SUPPORT. WHEN THE
VIETNAM AS LONG IT DONE THEM IN
US IT ON. NUMBER OF A DAY AFTER
THE- YOU UP FOR YOU I'LL- IF
THERE IS BECAUSE THEY YEP YES.
LONGER THAN OPERATE ALSO IN
SUPPORT. HI MY NAME SAYS THE
ANIMAL THAT I KNOW A SINGLE
MOTHER THIS IS MY DAUGHTER
PLEASE HAVE YOU HE'S GOT NOW
SHE'S ONE OF FUTURE LOW. PLEASE
BY S. B. HI. SIX SEVEN. AND YOUR
DAUGHTER THE COMPANY'S PUNISH
AND SUPPORT. SHALAMAR ELLIS WITH
LEADERSHIP COUNCIL- INSTRUCTS AS
WELL AS CATHOLIC. AND WE ARE NOT
IN IN FRESNO. FATEMA WITH
CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENT VOTERS
AND. WORKS ORDER WITH PECO
CALIFORNIA START HOUSING INTO.
THANK YOU. SIR FLOCKS CALIFORNIA
LABOR FEDERATION IN SUPPORT.
CASSIE MANZINI ABOUT THE
CALIFORNIA SCHOOL EMPLOYEES
ASSOCIATION AN SEIU CALIFORNIA
AND SUPPORT. GOOD MORNING LINDA
WAY WITH WESTERN CENTER ON LAW
AND POVERTY PROUD CO SPONSOR AND
SUPPORTER THANK YOU. MISTER
MEMBERS POPULAR ME HAVE THE
CITIES IN WEST HOLLYWOOD SANTA
MONICA AND ALSO MY OLDEST WHO'S
DONE A LOT OF WORK FOR ACE
REGION AYE VOTE THANKS. GOOD
MORNING EVERYONE DEVON WILLIAMS
WITH ACE A- ANTIOCH CONTRA COSTA
COUNTY IN SUPPORT THANK YOU. HEY
GOOD MORNING EVERYONE NOVELAS
WITH RICHMOND AS ALSO SPEAKING
AS AN INDIVIDUAL MEMBER OF THE
RICHMOND CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT
ONE AND I URGE YOUR SUPPORT VOTE
. GOOD MORNING RG BROWN FOR
RETIRED NAVY VET DISABLED VET
PARTY BASH IN STRONG SUPPORT.
GOOD MORNING MY NAME IS PATRICIA
YEAH ALRIGHT COME FROM FEES FOR
CALIFORNIA I MOVED WITH ACE IN A
REPRESENTATIVE STUNT STROLLER IS
SO BORING FIVE SEVEN THANK YOU.
EIGHTY GUNS AND I'M WITH ACE
FROM ANTIOCH AND I'M ALSO WITH
THE BLACK OWNED BEAUTY SUPPLY
ASSOCIATION. AND WE'RE IN STRONG
SUPPORT. GOOD MORNING JAMES
MICHAEL POWELL WITH THE AMERICAN
FEDERATION OF STATE COUNTY
MUNICIPAL EMPLOYEES CALIFORNIA
IN SUPPORT. GOOD MORNING MY NAME
IS KIMBERLY SO AND I'M IN
SUPPORT THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
GOOD MORNING MY NAME IS SHEILA
CELLS I'M WITH SAC ACT I'M
SUPPORT. GOOD MORNING MY NAME IS
SAM STUBBS ALEXAKIS AND I'M
SUPPORT. GOOD MORNING MY NAME IS
JAY MITCHELL I'M WITH- FAITH IN
ACTION EAST BAY AND PICO IN
OAKLAND AND I AM HERE IN SUPPORT
OF FIVE SIX SEVEN. GOOD MORNING
MY NAME IS DARYL OR THE SECOND
TIME WITH SAC ACHEN PICO AND I'M
ALSO IN SUPPORT. GOOD MORNING ON
THE LAWLER HERE TODAY ON BEHALF
OF THE PUBLIC INTEREST LAW
PROJECT THE NATIONAL HOUSING LAW
PROJECT THE BERKELEY RENT FOR
THE SANTA MONICA ROOM BOARD AND
RATHER KANEMI ON SUPPORT. GOOD
MORNING MY NAME IS MICHAEL
WHARTON OF FAITH IN ACTION WEST
OAKLAND A AND THE SUPPORT OF
FIVE SIX SEVEN THANK YOU. GOOD
MORNING MY NAME IS JOE LOPEZ I'M
A VICTIM OF THIS HOUSING CRISIS
AND I AM STRONGLY IN SUPPORT OF
FIVE SIX SEVEN. THANK YOU. DAVID
SHARPLES OF THE COMMUNITY GROUP
ACE IN SUPPORT. LATONYA SHARD
MEMBER OF ACE I AM STRONGLY
SUPPORTING THIS BILL. REBECA
GONZALEZ NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF
SOCIAL WORKERS CALIFORNIA
CHAPTER IN SUPPORT. RECALL ME
SAN ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE ALLIANCE
ACTION IN SUPPORT THANK YOU.
SIMILAR JAN WITH DISABILITY
RIGHTS CALIFORNIA WE ARE IN
SUPPORT. MIKE WEST ON BEHALF OF
THE STATE BUILDING AND
CONSTRUCTION TRADES COUNCIL ALSO
IN SUPPORT THANK YOU. DO COONEY
ON BEHALF OF A SO YOU CALIFORNIA
ACTION IN STRONG SUPPORT THANK
YOU SENATOR. WARNING US ON VERO
PARA CALIFORNIA ACTION AND WE
ARE IN SUPPORT OF A FIVE SIX
SEVEN THANK YOU. BRENT SEVENTY
AFTER UNITED WAY GRAMMARLY IN
SUPPORT. UNDER THIS RAMASAMY
HAVE A PUBLIC ADVOCATES AS CO
SPONSORS IN STRONG SUPPORT.
JOSLIN WITH FATE WITH FAITH AND
THAT FAITH IN ACTION EAST BAY
APPEAL CALIFORNIA STRONG SUPPORT
SB FIVE SIX SEVEN. CARMEN RAMOS
BETAMAX IN EAST BAY M. BAKER
CALIFORNIA IN LIFE SUPPORT S. B.
FIVE SIX SEVEN. HI EVERYONE BUT
AREA TRY WITH FOR THE NEXT HE'S
BEEN PICO CALIFORNIA AND WE
STRONGLY SUPPORT IS B. FIVE
SIXTY SEVEN THANK YOU. MORNING
FORGOT ENOUGH FROM SALINAS
CALIFORNIA- OF BUILDING HEALTHY
COMMUNITIES I SUPPORT SB FIVE
SIX SEVEN THANK YOU. HI MY NAME
IS MELISSA SPINOZA- FROM
BUILDING HEALTHY COMMUNITIES
SALINAS CALIFORNIA WHERE FULL
SUPPORT OF SB. FIVE SIX SEVEN-
ANGELA BEING OVER FROM STERLING
CALIF. BOTH HOW TO COMMUTE AND
STRONG. HE SEVENTY THAT I'M FROM
. NINE- BE AC. I WAS SUPPORT IS
BEING. FIVE SIX SEVEN. WHEN
ESTADO NANCY GOT A ROLE THEY HE
SAID. IS A BIG GLOBAL THE AND- A
B. FIVE SIX SEVEN- ARMAND
ANDREATTA I'M SHE'S- WITH PHD
AND ALMONDS OF SB. FIVE SIX
SEVEN. CHRIS LOGAN OF FAITH
NATIONALLY SPAIN PEW CALIFORNIA
SUPPORTING AB FIVE SIX OF. CHRIS
MORANO FROM OAKLAND CALIFORNIA
IN SUPPORT OF SB. FIVE SIX
SEVEN. SHANE GUSMAN ON BEHALF OF
THE CONSUMER ATTORNEYS OF
CALIFORNIANS SUPPORT. HI MY NAME
IS. HI MY NAME IS MAN A LITTLE
AND I'M HERE TO SUPPORT AND SB.
FIVE SIX SEVEN. I'M NOT IN THE
ROSE FROM OAKLAND CALIFORNIA IS
BATES- FOR YOU NOT SHOWN N. A
PICKLE CALIFORNIA. SO BOARDING
S. B. FIVE SIX SEVEN. GOOD
MORNING ALBERT HERNANDEZ FAITH
IN ACTION EAST BAY AND PEOPLE
CALIFORNIA IN STRONG SUPPORT OF
SB FIVE SIX SEVEN. HAZEL WATSON
FROM SACRAMENTO ACT AND PICO IN
SUPPORT OF SB FIVE SIX SEVEN. MY
NAME IS OLENA MASAKI I'M WITH
SACRAMENTO ACTON PEOPLE
CALIFORNIA AND I SUPPORT SB FIVE
SIX SEVEN. LU SETTLE SAULTEAUX
WHAT'S SACRAMENTO ACTING PEOPLE
CALIFORNIA IN SUPPORT OF SB FIVE
SIX SEVEN. SYDNEY ALBER WITH
PECO CALIFORNIA AND AS OF VOTER
CONSTITUENT AND JERMAINE SHINES-
DISTRICT IN SUPPORT OF SB FIVE
SIX SEVEN. GARITA CO WITH
SACRAMENTO ACTON PEOPLE
CALIFORNIA IN SUPPORT OF ITS WI
FI SIX ON. OUR REVEREND STEVE
HONG- CHAPLAIN IN A HOSPITAL-
WITH GOSPEL IMPERATIVE I STRONG
SUPPORT SB FIVE SIX SEVEN. HI
KIKI VELAS THE CLEAN BUILDINGS
ADVOCATE WITH THE NATURAL
RESOURCES DEFENSE COUNCIL IN
STRONG SUPPORT. MORNING MY NAME
IS ALYSSA WITH THE LONG I AND I
SUPPORT A. B. FIVE SIX SEVEN.
ALISON MUNRO A RANCHER IN
OAKLAND I SUPPORT JUST BECAUSE
LEGISLATION. MY NAME IS ROBIN I
SUPPORT BOB. FIVE SIX SEVEN.
JOHN ABOUT OUT OF THE WAY AS IN
SACRAMENTO AND STRONG SUPPORT-
RUBBER COPELAND MEMBER OF A FOR
THE SECOND HOMES OR DOING
COMMITTEE FROM SUPPORT. MARQUITA
FRAZIER SOUTH SACRAMENTO STRONG
SUPPORT. REVEREND RACHANA FONG
REPRESENTING OVER HUNDRED FIFTY
ORGANIZATIONS ACROSS THE STATE
WITH HOUSING NOW COALITION IN
VERY STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU
SEEN NO FURTHER WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION
. YEAH. WHEN THEY TO CHAIRS
THERE. YOU MIGHT. THANK YOU
FIRST PLEASE. GOOD MORNING MR
CHAIRMAN DEBORAH CARLTON WITH
THE CAL APARTMENT SO LET ME SEE
BY THANK YOU TO COMMITTEE FOR
WORKING WITH US AND THE AUTHOR
FOR WORKING WITH US ON
AMENDMENTS I THINK WE'RE VERY
CLOSE- I THINK. I FIRST WANT TO
RESPECT THE PRIMARY WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT THE BILL AND THE LAW WAS
NEVER INTENDED FOR OWNERS TO
CHEAT THE SYSTEM AND I THINK WE
FIX THAT YOU HAVE FIX THAT WITH
THE AMENDMENTS I THINK IT'S
SMALL OWNERS WHO ARE PRIMARILY
AFFECTED BY THE JUST CAUSE
PROVISIONS IT'S THOSE OWNERS TO
MOVE INTO THEIR PROPERTY. WHO
NEED TO OR THEIR FAMILY BECAUSE
OF ILLNESS- THEY MAY HAVE- REHAB
THAT THEY NEED TO DO- BECAUSE OF
FLOODING OR WATER DAMAGE EXCEPT
FOR THAT NEEDS THAT THE TENANTS
TO MOVE OUT AND IT'S THOSE
OWNERS WHO MAY TAKE THEIR HOMES
OFF THE MARKET BECAUSE THEY NEED
TO SELL THEM. BECAUSE OF
PERSONAL FOR PERSONAL REASONS
WHAT WE HAVE REMAINING ARE.
CONCERNS WITH THE PENALTY
PROVISIONS WE WANT TO MAKE SURE
THAT IT'S NOT UNJUSTLY IMPOSED
UPON A SMALL OWNER WHO MAY NOT
HAVE UNREASONABLY. AFFECTED THE-
EITHER AT THE INCREASED TO RENT
WE HAVE TO THE CALIFORNIA
APARTMENT ASSOCIATION HIRED AN
ECONOMIST TO WORK OUT THE CPI
NUMBERS. EVERY YEAR- BECAUSE
IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THAT EASY
SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF
IN A SMALL OWNER MAKES. A SMALL
MINOR MISTAKE SO LONG AS IT'S
NOT MALICIOUS OR INTENTIONAL
THAT THEY ARE NOT. EXPOSED TO
ATTORNEYS FEES AND COSTS SO
WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK
WITH THE AUTHOR AND THE SPONSORS
ON THOSE PROVISIONS SO THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. THANK YOU NEXT
WITNESS. A GOOD MORNING- MR
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS- CREAM GREASY
ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
ASSOCIATION OF REALTORS- HERE
TODAY IN OPPOSITION SB FIVE
SIXTY SEVEN. I'D LIKE TO BEGIN
MY REMARKS BY THINKING OF BOTH
THE AUTHOR AND THE SPONSORS- FOR
THEIR WILLINGNESS TO WORK ON
THIS MEASURES IT'S MOVES THROUGH
THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS. I ALSO
WANT TO THINK OF THE CHAIR IN
THE COMMITTEE ON THE TREMENDOUS
COMMITTEE STAFF- FOR THEIR WORK
ON THIS MEASURE- AS EVIDENCED BY
THE EXTENSIVE ANALYSIS. HOWEVER
WE STILL HAVE CONCERNS WITH THE
MEASURE- IN PARTICULAR- SB FIVE
SIXTY SEVEN- PROVIDES- THAT IF A
SMALL HOUSING PROVIDER.
INADVERTENTLY MISCALCULATED THE
RENTAL AMOUNT AND ASKS FOR JUST
ONE DOLLAR MORE THAN IS
PERMITTED IN AB FOURTEEN EIGHTY
TWO- THERE THEN LIABLE FOR
ATTORNEYS FEES AND COSTS- THIS
TO OUR WAY OF THINKING- WILL
CREATE A COTTAGE INDUSTRY OF
UNSCRUPULOUS ATTORNEYS WILL THEN
PREY UPON. THE SMALL HOUSING
PROVIDERS WHO INADVERTENTLY
MAKE- THESE MINOR
MISCALCULATIONS- THIS IN TURN
WILL DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACT
US SENIORS. AS WELL AS MEMBERS
OF OTHER VULNERABLE POPULATIONS.
WHO ARE MORE LIKELY TO
INADVERTENTLY MAKE THESE MINOR
MISCALCULATIONS IN THE RENTAL
AMOUNT- AND SO- WE DO ALIGN
OURSELVES WITH THE SUGGESTION.
CONTAINED ON PAGE SEVENTEEN OF
THE ANALYSIS. WHICH SUGGESTS
THAT THE AUTHOR MAY WISH. TO
CONSIDER AMENDING THE BILL A TO
WIN THE RECOVERY OF ATTORNEY'S
FEES AND COSTS TO A HOUSING
PROVIDER WHO ACTS WILLFULLY OR
WITH THE FRAUD OPPRESSION AND
MALICE. HOWEVER THIS TIME WE DO
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST ANOTHER
THANK YOU SO MUCH THANK YOU ANY
FURTHER WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION
NAME ORGANIZATION ONLY PLACE.
GOOD MORNING KATE ON BEHALF THE
CALIFORNIA RENTAL HOUSING
ASSOCIATION AND APARTMENTS-
STATION PRETTY EARLY AND
OPPOSITION THANK YOU. MISTER
CHAIRMAN RESPECT RAN WITH THEIR
AND READING ASSOCIATES
REPRESENTING THE SOUTHERN
CALIFORNIA RENTAL HOUSING
ASSOCIATION OPPOSED TO THE BILL
THANK YOU THANK YOU. ESCENA FOR
THE WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION
ATTORNEY COMMITTEES. MOTION FOR
MISTER KALRA. SACRAMENTO AYNI
MISS PAP AND- SO. AS WE SIT HERE
TODAY AND WE KNOW IN OUR
EVERYDAY LIVES HAVE A CRITICAL
NEED FOR HOUSING- I WANT TO
THANK THE AUTHOR FOR MAKING THE
AMENDMENTS THAT THAT YOU'VE MADE
TO DATE BECAUSE THEY REALLY DID
BALANCE. THE NEEDS OF TENANTS
WITH WHAT SMALL HOUSING
PROVIDERS REALLY CAN GO THROUGH
THE CONSTRAINTS THAT THEY MAY
HAVE IN ORDER TO TRY TO KEEP
UNITS ON ON THE MARKET. I HAVE
SOME QUESTIONS SO- ON THE 51% I
WONDERED HOW YOU CAME UP WITH A
51% BECAUSE IN MY EXPERIENCE IN
THE REAL WORLD IT THERE MAY BE A
GROUP OF SAY FOR PEOPLE. WHO
AREN'T RELATED. BUT MAY INVEST
IN A PROPERTY THEY DON'T WANT
ANYONE TO BE A MAJORITY OWNER.
AND SATURDAY JAN 25% LET'S JUST
SAY AND WHY IS IT THAT THEY ONE
OF THOSE FOLKS COULD NOT ALLOW A
FAMILY MEMBER TO MOVE INTO UNIT
SHOULD THAT FAMILY MEMBER. NEED
TO HOUSING OR WHATEVER THEIR
SITUATION IS SO I JUST I DO IT A
LOT OF PEOPLE GO IN IN THE TRY
TO CREATE THEIR OWN GENERATIONAL
WEALTH BY POOLING THEIR
RESOURCES TO BUY A BUILDING AND
OFTENTIMES THAT CAN BE. FOR CAN
BE LASSEN FOR MORE THAN FOUR AND
THEY DON'T WANT ANYBODY MAJORITY
OWNER SO MAYBE YOU CAN ENLIGHTEN
ME ABOUT WHY 51% IS THIS MAGIC
NUMBER BECAUSE- IN THE REAL
WORLD OF PEOPLE TRYING TO GROW
THE GENERATIONAL. SOMETIMES I
MEAN I DON'T HAVE MUCH
PERCENTAGE OF THE BUILDING. OKAY
THANK YOU- UNLESS MR GUSTED TO
ANSWER THAT. I THE END THANK YOU
AND YOU FOR THE- I'M- THE SHORT
ANSWER IS THERE'S NOT A MAGIC TO
FIFTY ONE OTHER THAN IT. IT DOES
SORT OF DEFINE WHO IS THE
MAJORITY OWNER PART OF THE
REASON FOR HAVING THAT PROVISION
IN THE BILL. IS IT GROWS OUT OF
EXPERIENCE THAT LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS HAVE HAD IN
IMPLEMENTING A SIMILAR OWNER
MOVE IN PROVISION. AND IN THOSE
ORDINANCES AS WE DO HERE OUR
GOAL IS TO AVOID SORT OF GAMING
THE SYSTEM BY GRANTING A SMALL-
OWNERSHIP INTEREST IN THE
PROPERTY AND THEN ALLOWING THAT
VERY SMALL OWNER TO CLAIM. THE
RIGHT TO OWN A MOVE AND- IN THE
CIRCUMSTANCE THAT YOU DESCRIBE
OF YOU KNOW FOR. PEOPLE
UNRELATED PEOPLE OWNING THE
PROPERTY TOGETHER. YOU KNOW I
THINK. MAYBE THERE'S SOME
CONVERSATION TO BE HAD ABOUT
WHAT IS THE RIGHT PERCENTAGE BUT
THE REALITY IS THAT SORT OF
ARM'S LENGTH TRANSACTION OF FOUR
PEOPLE OWNING PROPERTY TOGETHER
. IS SORT OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING
TO ENSURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE
THIS INSTANCE WHERE AN OWNER IT
IS BROAD AND SIMPLY FOR THE
PURPOSE OF DISPLACING THE
CURRENT TENANTS SO THAT'S WHY
WE'VE LANDED ON FIFTY ONE
PERCENT. OF ALL THAT OTHER SPEAK
TO. YOUR HOUSE YOU MIGHT WANT TO
MOVE FORWARD ON THAT QUESTION
BUT WE DO I THINK IS VERY
CRITICAL BASED ON EXPERIENCE
WE'VE SEEN AT THE LOCAL LEVEL
THAT WE NOT OPEN IT UP TO THE
ABILITY OF. YOU KNOW A MY NORTH
VERY SMALL MINORITY OWNER USING
THAT PROVISION. ANY FURTHER TO
HELP I DO HAVE A QUESTION- YEAH
I. I WOULD ASK THE AUTHOR IF YOU
COULD. TAKE A LOOK AT THAT
BECAUSE I THINK IN THE REAL
WORLD WITH PEOPLE TRYING TO GROW
THEIR GENERATIONAL WEALTH AS I
SAID. IT MAY BE THAT YOU'VE GOT
FOR INVESTORS NOBODY'S GOT
ENOUGH MONEY TO BUY ONE
BUILDING. AND YOU DON'T WANT
ANYONE TO HAVE MORE CONTROL THAN
A MAJORITY INTEREST BECAUSE
EVERYBODY WANTS TO BE EQUAL SO.
THAT'S KIND OF WHAT HAPPENS IN
IN THE REAL WORLD SO I'D LIKE TO
SEE IF YOU COULD EXPLORE THAT.
THEN SO QUESTION I HAVE RELATES
TO- A IF FAMILY MEMBER MOVES AND
THEY MUST STAY. FOR TWELVE
MONTHS AND IF NOT THEN YOU HAVE
TO OFFER THE PROPERTY. BACK TO
THE TENANT WAS JUST PLACE TO
HAVE THAT RIGHT. YEAH OKAY. AND
I I'M OKAY WITH THAT I JUST YOU
KNOW SOMETIMES THINGS HAPPEN IN
PEOPLE'S LIVES LIKE IT. IT MAY
BE THAT THE FAMILY MEMBER MOVED
IN AND- THEY GOT SICK IN THEIR
SENIOR AND HAVE TO MOVE OUT AND
NEED MORE CARE INTO WHATEVER IT
MAY BE. AND I'M JUST WONDERING
IF- THERE'S A WAY OF TAKING INTO
ACCOUNT SOMETHING THAT MIGHT
COME UP. BECAUSE THE FAMILY
MEMBER WASN'T ABLE TO STAY FOR
TWELVE MONTHS IT WASN'T LIKE.
YOU JUST MOVE THEM IN THERE ONE
OF THE THINGS SIXTEEN TEN AND
TRY TO RAISE THE RENT OR YOU
KNOW WHATEVER IT MAY BE- ANYWAY
SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT BECAUSE
LIFE HAPPENS- TO FOLKS THAT
MIGHT HAVE MOVED IN. AND- IT MAY
BE THAT. IN SIX MONTHS SOMETHING
CAME UP THAT'S ALL I'M
SUGGESTING BUT I APPRECIATE. THE
AMENDMENTS YOU MADE TO THE BILL
AND I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE
BILL TODAY. BUT PLEASE THINK
ABOUT THE- LESS THAN FIFTY ONE
PERCENT. THANK YOU. AND LOOKED
ALL OF THESE. FROM THE VERY
BEGINNING CAME FROM THE
PRACTITIONERS. PEOPLE ON THE
GROUND WHO DEAL WITH THESE CASES
EVERY SINGLE DAY. AND WE EVEN
TRIED TO SAY OKAY. WE'RE NOT
GOING TO CHANGE ALL THE LAWS
WHAT IS IT THAT IS REALLY GOING
ON. THAT CONTRIBUTES THE MOST.
NOT HERE AND THERE CONTRIBUTES
THE MOST. TO PEOPLE GETTING
EVICTED BECAUSE- HUNDREDS OF
THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE GET SERVED
WITH DEPICTIONS. SO WE WANT TO
GET THE MOST COMMON PRACTICE
WHAT WAS THE MOST COMMON. ABUSE
NOT. EVERY SINGLE ONE BUT WITH
THE MOST COMMON ABUSE. AND THIS
IS WHAT WE CAME UP WITH AND I'M
SURE THEY'LL BE. OTHER
CIRCUMSTANCES OF INDIVIDUALS
WHO. HAVE THESE. YOU KNOW
SITUATIONS LIKE YOU SAID YOU
KNOW FOR PEOPLE GETTING TOGETHER
WANTING TO INVEST. WE'RE TRYING
TO ADDRESS WHAT IS THE MOST
COMMON. AND WHAT WOULD BE THE
MOST IMPACTFUL ON ON. ON
FAMILIES ESPECIALLY BETTER OFF
THERE'S A WITH THE TRYING TO
EVICT THEM SO WE'LL DEFINITELY
LOOK AT THAT THANK YOU THANK YOU
FOR YOUR SENATOR. THANK YOU- I
HAVE A COUPLE ABOUT IT OVER TO
MY COLLEAGUES- FIRST OFF WHEN I
HEAR THE COMPLAINTS FROM THE
PEOPLE. THEY'RE HEARING WHAT I
HEAR AND I SYMPATHIZE WITH THEM
IS THAT HOUSING CALIFORNIA IS
UNAFFORDABLE. AND IT'S HARD TO
ACCESS. MY CONCERN THOUGH IS
THAT WE'RE SORT OF MAKING THE
LANDLORDS. THE CAUSE OF THE
PROBLEM IN THE BOOGEYMAN. AND I
DON'T THINK THAT THE REASON FOR
THE HIGH PRICES ON AFFORDABILITY
IS BECAUSE OF LANDLORDS
LANDLORDS ARE OPERATING IN IN
THE MARKET THAT'S GIVEN TO THEM-
SO. I WOULD JUST ASK I MEAN
SENATOR DO YOU THINK THAT
LANDLORDS ARE THE CAUSE OF THE
ON AFFORDABILITY ISSUE AND WHY
ARE WE PUTTING THIS ON THEIR
BACKS TO CONTROL. YOU KNOW.
CAPPING WHAT THEY CAN DO THEIR
PROPERTY CAPPING HOW MUCH THEY
CAN CHARGE AND JUST. WHY ARE WE
REGULATING LANDLORDS ARE NOT
FOCUSING ON THE OTHER. POLICY
ISSUES BEHIND THE COSTA HOUSING
. WELL I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE ONE
BILL THAT ADDRESSES ALL THE
ISSUES THAT LEAD TO
HOMELESSNESS. I TRIED TO FOCUS
ON THE ISSUES WHERE THERE IS
ALREADY A LAW. THESE LAWS THESE
ALREADY IN PLACE- AND HOW WE CAN
BETTER. ENFORCE THOSE LAWS AND
GET RID OF THOSE LOOPHOLES THAT
WAS THE WHOLE PURPOSE IT WAS NOT
THE CHANGE ALL THE LAWS IT WAS
FRANKLY TO FOCUS IN ON WHERE.
THERE ARE LOOPHOLES THAT HAVE
CONTRIBUTED TO MORE PEOPLE
GETTING EVICTIONS I THINK THE
EXPERIENCES OF TELLING YOU. WHAT
THEY PAY IN RENT IS HOW
DIFFICULT IT IS SO THAT IF YOU
GET EVICTED. AND YOU YOU LOSE
YOUR PLACE HOW HARD IT IS. TO
THEN FIND ANOTHER PLACE HOW MUCH
MORE DIFFICULT IT IS TO FIND A
PLACE THAT IS REASONABLY PRICED.
HOW MUCH OF THE INCREASE IN IN
RENT IT'S ALREADY LAW WE WE'RE
NOT WE'RE NOT CHANGING THAT.
WE'RE NOT BLAMING WE'RE NOT
SAYING ALL OF THIS IS THAT IS
CAUSED BY LANDLORDS WE WANT TO
FIX. WHERE THERE ARE LOOPHOLES.
AND ALLOW THESE TENDS TO BE ABLE
TO DEFEND THEMSELVES- IN THE
CASE OF THOSE LOOPHOLES SO WE'RE
VERY VERY FOCUSED AND NARAL AND
WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO I
APPRECIATE THAT I KNOW HOW HARD
IT IS. AND I HAVE LOTS OF
FRIENDS AND FAMILY WHO STRUGGLE
TO GET AFFORDABLE HOUSING WHAT
I'M SAYING IS THAT IT'S CAUSED
BY THE DECISIONS THAT WE MAKE IN
THIS BUILDING. IT'S THE
REGULATIONS IN THE TAXES THAT
MAKE IT VERY EXPENSIVE TO BUILD
AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND IF WE'RE
REALLY SERIOUS ABOUT. PROVIDING
AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO THE PUBLIC
I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE PUBLIC
THAT WE NEED TO FOCUS ON
REDUCING REGULATIONS THAT
ARTIFICIALLY DRIVE UP. COSTS
PREVAILING WAGE IS A BIG PART OF
THAT CONVERSATION LIMITING
CONSTRUCTION FEES REFORMING SEEK
WHAT. IS THE GOVERNMENT THAT'S
ADDING TO THE COST OF HOUSING
AND BUILDING AND WE HAVE TO GET
OUT OF THE WAY. AND GIVE PEOPLE
OPTIONS RATHER THAN REGULATING
THE FEW. RENTAL UNITS THAT WE
HAVE WE GOT TO BUILD MORE AND
WE'RE THE BIGGEST IMPEDIMENT TO
THAT THAT'S- THAT'S MY- THAT'S
MY OVERALL CONCERN BUT UP WITH
THAT IDEA YOU'LL THANK YOU
MISTER CHAIR. THANK YOU SEE. THE
CZECHO. SO I ALSO WANT TO THANK
THE AUTHOR FOR TAKING
AMENDMENTS. I DID HAVE A COUPLE
OF QUESTIONS I NOTICED THAT ONE
OF THE AMENDMENTS THAT WERE
GOING TO. BE TAKEN WAS REGARDING
THE DEFINITION ADDING THE FAMILY
TRUST- WHICH WOULD BE REVOKED
BORN IRREVOCABLE TRUST- BUT
THERE HAS TO BE SOME
RELATIONSHIPS. SIBLING SPOUSE
DOMESTIC PARTNER CHILD PARENT
GRANDPARENT OR GRANDCHILD MY
CONCERN IS THIS- I'VE I'VE
ENCOUNTER SITUATIONS WHERE. YOU
HAVE TO INDIVIDUALS THAT DECIDE
NOT TO GET MARRIED THEY'LL BE
TOGETHER FOR FIFTY YEARS. FIFTY
PLUS YEARS AND DECIDE NOT TO GET
MARRIED NOT TO BECOME REGISTERED
DOMESTIC PARTNERS- SO MY CONCERN
IS WE MAY HAVE A SITUATION
WHERE. THERE'S A ELDERLY PERSON
WHO WAS WHO WAS WITH ANOTHER
PERSON FOR SIGNIFICANTLY LONGER
TIME. AND NOW- THEY WILL BE
CONSIDERED AS A NATURAL PERSON
HERE IF THERE OF TO INHERIT FROM
THEIR PARTNER- SO IS THERE ANY
THOUGHTS AND POSSIBLY EXPANDING
IT TO INCLUDE MAYBE NOT JUST-
DEPRESSED THEY PARTNERS BUT-
OTHER PEOPLE- BECAUSE SOMETIMES
PEOPLE WILL LIVE WITH SOMEBODY.
AND THEIR BENEFICIARIES AND THEY
MAY NOT NECESSARILY BE RELATED
BUT MAYBE IN THE CASE OF THE
CIRCUMSTANCE THAT I JUST
EXPLAINED THEIR WITH. THEIR
PARTNER FOR A LONG PERIOD OF
TIME. IS THERE ANY. THOUGHT OF
THAT AND IF YOU HAVE ANY. THANK
YOU FOR THAT MMHM THANK YOU FOR
THAT BECAUSE- YOU DON'T WANT ONE
OF THE THINGS THAT WE- I THINK
HAS BEEN. IT YOU KNOW WE WORK
WITH COMMITTEE TO COME UP WITH
THAT DEFINITION BECAUSE WE
WANTED TO REALLY DEFINE WHAT WE
WERE HEARING AS YOU KNOW A
FAMILY TRUST. WHICH IS. ALL THEM
ALL OF THEIR CREATORS THE
SETTLERS OF THE TRUST AND
BENEFICIARIES ARE RELATED TO ONE
ANOTHER ONCE YOU START TO DRIFT
AWAY FROM THAT WE START TO GET
INTO IT A QUESTION ABOUT- WHERE
ARE THE LIMITS OF THIS I WOULD
JUST PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE
BECAUSE I DIED. I UNDERSTAND
THAT EXAMPLE THAT YOU'RE GIVING
- IS A RATIONAL ONE BUT AS WE
MOVE FURTHER AWAY FROM THAT YOU
KNOW. WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
HERE IS A LIMITED SITUATION IN
WHICH- YOU KNOW A PROPERTY OWNER
WANTS TO MOVE A FAMILY MEMBER
IN. TO THE PROPERTY SO. THAT IS
A VERY LIMITED. THAT SITUATION
THAT WE HAVE A VERY LIMITED
SITUATION OF THE RELATIONSHIP
BETWEEN THESE TWO PARTIES THAT
CREATED THE TRUST TOGETHER-
THERE'S PROBABLY WAYS THAT THEY
CAN NAVIGATE THAT BUSINESS
RELATIONSHIP IF THERE. IF THEIR
GOAL WAS TO MOVE ONE MEMBERS
SIBLING SIBLING SIGNOFF
OFFSPRING OR FAMILY MEMBER INTO
THE UNIT. TO RESTRUCTURE IT BUT
IF WE- JUST FROM THE PERSPECTIVE
OF THE SPONSORS THE MORE WE
TRIED TO KIND OF ACCOUNT FOR
EACH OF THOSE INSTANCES. THE
FURTHER WE GET AWAY FROM TRYING
TO KEEP A TIGHT DEFINITION OF
OWNER MOVE IN FOR THIS PURPOSES
BUT A LOT AUTHOR RESPOND TO SORT
OF HOW WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD
ON THAT ISSUE. WELL I MEAN WE
COULD LOOK AT THAT I AM NOT SURE
EXACTLY HOW TO FIX THAT ANA- BUT
WE'D BE GLAD TO LOOK AT THAT.
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU
AND THEN- I ALSO HAVE SOME OF
THE SAME CONCERNS- THAT THE
OPPOSITION HAS- I'M ALSO E. REAL
ESTATE BROKER IN IN. MY CITY AND
SO I HAVE SOME OF THE SAME
CONCERNS. AND I'M JUST CURIOUS
TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY FURTHER
CONVERSATIONS THAT ARE
HAPPENING. TO FINE TUNE THIS
BILL IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF
AMENDMENTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN
TAKEN- MANY SEEMS LIKE. US SO
MANY AMENDMENTS THAT ARE BEING
ASKED FOR OR JUST. A FEW MORE
AMENDMENTS AND CURIOUS TO SEE IF
THERE'S ANY DIALOGUE STILL
HAPPENING. WE HAVE FINE TUNED
THIS DOZENS OF TIMES- FINE TUNE
AND FINE TUNE AND FINE TUNE- I'M
ALWAYS YOU KNOW OPEN TO HEAR
SOMETHING ELSE- THAT. HAS BEEN
BROUGHT UP BUT- YOU KNOW. WE'VE
REALLY TRIED HARD WORK HARD AND
ESPECIALLY WITH THE HELP OF. THE
CHAIR AND THE AND THE COMMITTEE
WHO ARE EXPERTS- BUT WILL. BE
OPEN. ENTER THE OPPOSITION- JUST
CURIOUS TO SEE. IF THEIR- ARE
MORE MEN WITH THAT CAN BE MADE
TO FEEL BETTER THIS- I KNOW YOU
EXPLAIN THAT. RIGHT NOW- BUT IS
THERE A PLACE WHERE WE CAN
ACTUALLY GET TO MAYBE MORE
NEUTRAL FROM OPPOSITION I KNOW
THE APARTMENT ASSOCIATION. IS
POSSIBLY- YOU KNOW THEY THEY SEE
SOME IMPROVEMENTS BEING MADE TO
THIS THIS BILL. AND I'M JUST
CURIOUS WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE.
YEAH WE APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT IN
YOUR QUESTIONS AND WE WILL. AS
ALWAYS CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE
AUTHOR IN THE SPONSORS ON
REFINING AS WE GET. TO OUR FINAL
DESTINATION BUT I THINK THE
ISSUES YOU RAISE ARE ACTUALLY
SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON.
AND WILL CONTINUE TO WORK ON
THAT SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
RAYNHAM SIR. I WANT TO THANK THE
AUTHOR FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP THE
AND THE- COALITION THAT CAME
TOGETHER AROUND THIS BILL I. I
KNOW IT'S BEEN A LONG JOURNEY
ALREADY AND MANY MANY CHANGES TO
IT AND STARTED OUT WITH A LOT OF
THINGS IN IT. BUT I DO WANT TO
SAY THAT WHAT'S IN FRONT OF US
NOW IT IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT
AND IMPACTFUL- I'M ONE OF THE
FIVE RENTERS IN THE STATE
LEGISLATURE WE STARTED. THE
RENTER'S CAUCUS THIS YEAR TO BE
ABLE TO WORK ON ISSUES LIKE THIS
AND I DO THINK THAT WHAT IS IN
FRONT OF US WILL HAVE A HUGE
IMPACT ON. THE SEVENTEEN MILLION
PLUS RENTERS AND OUR STATE. MANY
PEOPLE DO NOT KNOW THAT LAWS
EXIST THAT CAN PROTECT THEM
THERE AREN'T WAYS TO ENFORCE
THOSE LAWS THERE ISN'T NOTICE
REQUIREMENTS SO WE HAVE SUCH AN
IMPORTANT LAW. LIKE THE ONE THAT
WAS PASSED A FEW YEARS AGO LET'S
MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT
IT LET'S MAKE SURE IT'S
ENFORCED- AND LET'S MAKE SURE IT
HAS. MEANING FOR THE PEOPLE WHO
WE WANTED TO PROTECT WITH IT AND
THIS GOES SUCH A LONG WAY IN
DOING THAT I DO WANT TO THANK
THE OPPOSITION. AND FOLKS FOR
WORKING COLLABORATIVELY ON THIS
I THINK. THE POINT THAT WAS MADE
ABOUT HOW- IN REALITY WE WANT OF
COURSE. EVERYONE WHO IS RENTING
PROPERTY TO FOLLOW THE LAW AND
ALSO KNOW THE LAW THEMSELVES AND
WHEN THEY'RE NOT DOING THAT. AT
THE LARGER SET OF LANDLORDS WHO
ARE FALLING FOLLOW YOU ARE NOT
WELL SERVED BY THAT EITHER AND
SO I THINK THIS ALSO HELPS. WITH
LANDLORDS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE
THAT THAT REALLY NOTICE THAT
THEY'RE PROVIDING AND CLEAR
WAYS- TO BE ABLE TO FOLLOW THE
LAW KNOW THE LAWS WELL AND SO I.
APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT WAS
DONE BY THE COMMITTEE AND THE
CHAIR IN THE AMENDMENTS THAT
WERE. TAKEN AND THANK YOU FOR
YOUR LEADERSHIP I KNOW THESE
BILLS CAN BE VERY TOUGH AND-
THIS IS ONE THAT WILL HAVE A BIG
IMPACT AND YOU'VE DONE IT IN AND
WORKING WELL WITH EVERYBODY AND
I THINK EVERYONE'S COLLABORATION
IN THE- VERY LARGE COALITION OF
TEN INCENTIVE- COME TOGETHER AND
REALLY. HELPED MOVE THIS IS FOR
THE THIS FAR FORWARD THIS IS A
HUGE VICTORY FOR- THE TENANT-
ORGANIZATIONS A MOVEMENT ACROSS
THE STATE AND- I. AND WILL DO
ALLOW OF GOOD. I TO PROTECT
PEOPLE WHO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE
CAN JUST STAY IN THEIR HOMES.
AND AFFORD TO BE THERE THANK YOU
THANK YOU MISS MCKENNA. YES I
WANT TO THANK THE AUTHOR FOR
THIS BILL- I REALLY WANT TO
THANK ALL THE PEOPLE THAT SHOWED
UP THAT TRAVELED FROM. ALL
ACROSS CALIFORNIA TO RAISE THEIR
VOICES. AND LET US KNOW HOW THEY
FEEL AND WHAT'S HAPPENING TO
THEM OUT THERE. THAT'S THE REAL
WORLD THE REAL WORLD OF PEOPLE
THEY CAN'T STAY IN THEIR HOMES
IN MY DISTRICT. THANK SOME WE
HAD A SIXTY UNIT. APARTMENT
BUILDING WHERE THEY EVICTED
EVERYBODY. TO DO REPAIRS. AND
THEN WITHIN THREE MONTHS THEY
PUT THEY MOVE PEOPLE BACK IN.
WOULD TRIPLE THE RATE AND WE GOT
TO STOP THIS CANNOT HAPPEN THIS
BILL IS SUPER IMPORTANT. FOR
EVERYBODY IN CALIFORNIA WE WANT
TO KEEP PEOPLE HOUSE IS SO
IMPORTANT YOU GUYS. TO KEEP
PEOPLE HOUSE AND NOT HAVE THEM
SLEEPING ON THE STREET. WE
CANNOT GET- THIS IS INHUMANE AND
WE CANNOT GET USED TO AND
ACCUSTOMED TO WALKING OVER
PEOPLE IN THE STREET. THIS IS
JUST NOT RIGHT AND WE
CALIFORNIANS WE DESERVE BETTER
THAN THAT SO. I JUST HOPE I'M
ASKING EVERYONE TO SUPPORT THIS
BILL TODAY AND THANK YOU. THANK
YOU MS REST. THANK YOU MISTER
CHAIR. AND I ALSO WANT TO THANK
OUR AUTHOR. THESE BILLS BECOME
MORE IMPORTANT ESPECIALLY AS YOU
CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT THEM- AND
YOU BRING IN OTHER PEOPLE WHO
HAVE DIFFERING OPINIONS. BECAUSE
THAT'S WHAT MAKES IT A BETTER
BILL. BUT IN THE END THE
PURPOSE. REMAINS THE SAME AND
THAT IS TO PROTECT THE RENTERS
TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE NOT
DISPLACED WE TALK ABOUT
HOMELESSNESS. THE BEST WAY TO
NOT INCREASE HOMELESSNESS IS TO
KEEP PEOPLE WHERE THEY ARE
HOUSED- THE MORE WE DO TO
DISPLACE THEM. THE MORE WERE
INCREASING HOMELESSNESS AND THEN
WE TALK ABOUT- HOPELESSNESS IS
SUCH A PROBLEM WELL LET'S DO
EVERYTHING WE CAN. TO KEEP
PEOPLE EXACTLY WHERE THEY ARE.
AND LET'S MAKE SURE THAT THOSE
WHO DO USE THESE THESE METHODS
UNSCRUPULOUS METHODS ARE
STOPPED. SO THAT WE KEEP PEOPLE
IN THEIR HOMES SO WE DON'T TALK
ABOUT HOMELESSNESS IS IF IT'S
SOMETHING WE HAVE NO CONTROL
OVER THIS IS ONE WAY TO CONTROL
IT AND THAT IS KEEPING PEOPLE IN
THEIR HOMES. I THINK TO THE
SUGGESTIONS THAT WERE MADE-
HAVING TO DO WITH A FIFTY ONE
PERCENT. I THINK IT'S A FAIR
THING I APPRECIATE YOUR
WILLINGNESS TO LOOK AT THAT I
THINK ONE POSSIBILITY IS THAT
THEY'LL HAVE TO BE EQUAL
PARTNERS WITH YOU DON'T HAVE ONE
THAT IS. A 70% IN THE BRING IN
SOMEBODY TO BE 30% PARTNER JUST
TO HAVE. TO HAVE THAT 30%
PARTNER BRINGS A FAMILY MEMBER
AND BUT IF YOU DON'T EQUAL
PARTNERS THEY ALL HAVE AN EQUAL
INTEREST IN THIS. EQUAL AT FIFTY
FIFTY EQUAL AT- WHATEVER THE
NUMBER IS- BUT IT YOUR WORK ON
THIS NOT JUST ON THIS BILL BUT-
ON THIS ISSUE- IS COMMENDABLE
AND I APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU'VE
DONE ON THIS BILL. ESPECIALLY
BECAUSE IT'S THESE BILLS THAT
HELP CALIFORNIA. TO KEEP
HOMELESSNESS DOWN THANK YOU.
THANK YOU SEEN FURTHER- COMMENTS
FOR THE COMMITTEE I WANT TO
THANK YOU. FOR THIS BILL VERY
PLEASED TO SUPPORT THIS TODAY I
THINK THIS IS A STEP IN THE
RIGHT DIRECTION A LOT OF WORK
WENT INTO IT SO- I APPRECIATE
THAT. IN REGARDS TO ONE OF THE
OTHER ISSUES TO- THAT I WOULD
ALSO ADD TO THE AUTHOR IS THAT
WAS RAISED. BY THE OPPOSITION
JUST ASK YOU TO CONTINUE WORKING
ON THE ISSUE OF AN INADVERTENT
ERROR OBVIOUSLY. YOU KNOW WE
WANNA MAKE SURE SOMEBODY WHO
JUST MAKES AN HONEST MISTAKE- IS
. YOU KNOW. THAT'S TAKEN CARE OF
APPROPRIATELY BUT THIS IS A
GREAT STEP. FORWARD FOR PEOPLE
RENTING HERE IN CALIFORNIA- I
AGREE THAT IT HELPS MAKE SURE WE
DON'T ARE HOMELESS NUMBERS DO
NOT INCREASE- AND PROVIDES VERY
VALUABLE PROTECTIONS. AS WITH
THAT PLEASE A SPORTS DAY AND YOU
MAY CLOSE. THANK YOU IN AS A ONE
OF YOU MENTIONED I WANT TO
SPECIALLY THANK THE SPONSOR THAN
THE ADVOCATES. AND EVERYONE
WHO'S TRAVELED OVER AND OVER AND
OVER AGAIN FROM ALL OVER THE
STATE. OF THE SHOWS HOW
IMPORTANT IT IS TO THEM- AND I
COULDN'T COME UP WITH. THE KIND
OF LANGUAGE THAT IT TAKES TO
MAKE THE BILL BETTER AND YET
STILL STICK TO ITS CORE MISSION
SO. THANK YOU EVERYONE GLASSES
AT DAVOS AND URGE YOUR SUPPORT
KATE WE HAVE ANY- MOTION THE
MOTION IS TO PASS AS AMENDED TO.
THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE
ASKED THE COURT. TO PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL. MAIENSCHEIN HI
MAIENSCHEIN HAI THE SALE. SALIH
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THE CHECKOUT I HAPPEN. REYES
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MCENERY. YOUR BILL IS OUT THANK
YOU- MISTER. STRONG KEY NOW
MISTER ROSS HAS TO HAS ONE MORE
MISS FROM YOU ARE NOW- IT IN
SOME IS RISING YOUR PRESENT SO-
PLEASE PRESS. SB PEOPLE EXIT THE
ROOM JUST ASK TO ACCESS QUIET
PLEASE. SOCIAL PRESENT. THANK
YOU MISTER CHAIR AND MEMBERS I'M
HERE TO PRESENT SB THREE NINE
NINE ON BEHALF OF THE SENATOR
WILL HOBB I WANT TO START BY
THANKING THE COMMITTEE STAFF FOR
THEIR WORK ON THIS BILL- IS B.
THREE NINETY NINE CLARIFIES.
THAT WORKERS HAVE THE FREEDOM TO
DECLINE MANDATORY MEETINGS OR
COMMUNICATIONS WHERE THEIR
EMPLOYER EXPRESSES PERSONAL
VIEWS ON RELIGIOUS OR POLITICAL
MATTERS INCLUDING POLITICAL
PARTY OR UNION SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION. THESE MEETINGS ARE
OFTEN REFERRED TO AS QUOTING
QUOTE CAPTIVE AUDIENCE MEETINGS
BECAUSE ALTHOUGH NOT JOB RELATED
WORKERS ARE NOT PERMITTED TO
LEAVE OR NOT ATTEND WITHOUT
FACING DISCIPLINE OR OTHER
ADVERSE ACTION. IN MANY
WORKPLACES EMPLOYEES ARE AT WILL
AND CAN BE FIRED AT ANY TIME FOR
ALMOST ANY REASON IT GIVES
EMPLOYERS TREMENDOUS POWER TO
PRESSURE WORKERS TO DO AS THEY
SAY. IMAGINE THAT YOU ARE AT
WORK AND YOUR BOSS CALLS YOU
INTO A MANDATORY ALL STAFF
MEETING AT THE MEETING THE BOSS
AS YOU TO VOTE FOR A CANDIDATE
OR PROPOSITION THAT YOU OPPOSE.
YOU TRY TO LEAVE BUT ARE TOLD
YOU WILL BE WRITTEN UP AND
POSSIBLY FIRED IF YOU LEAVE THIS
IS WHAT WORKERS FACE ON THE JOB.
CALIFORNIA HAS LONG PRIDED
ITSELF AS A SANCTUARY FOR
WORKERS REGARDLESS OF RACE
GENDER SEXUAL ORIENTATION
RELIGION OR POLITICAL LEANING IT
IS IMPORTANT THAT WORKERS ARE
FREE TO GO TO WORK WITHOUT
FEELING COERCED INTO LISTENING
TO THE POLITICAL OR RELIGIOUS
VIEWS OF THEIR EMPLOYER AGAINST
THEIR WILL. THIS BILL PROVIDES
EXEMPTIONS SAMPLERS CAN
COMMUNICATE LEGALLY REQUIRED
INFORMATION ESSENTIAL FOR
WORKERS TO FULFILL THEIR JOB
DUTIES LIKEWISE NOTHING IN SB
THREE NINETY NINE. PRESENT
PREVENTS EMPLOYERS FROM
COMMUNICATING THEIR PERSONAL
POLITICAL OR RELIGIOUS BELIEFS
TO THEIR WORKERS. IT SIMPLY
CLARIFIES THEY CANNOT REQUIRE
WORKERS TO ATTEND MEETINGS TO
DISCUSS RELIGIOUS OR POLITICAL
MATTERS THAT ARE NOT GERMANE TO
THE WORK THEY DO. WITH ME IN
PERSON TO TESTIFY TODAY OUR
FREDDIE FIVE YES A FORMER R. E.
I. EMPLOYEE AND SHANE WAS MON.
GUSMAN OF BEHALF OF CALIFORNIA
TEAMSTERS. FIRST WITNESS PLACE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR- LISTENING
. SORRY LISTENING TO THEM. HI MY
NAME IS FREDDIE FRIAS AND I
WORKED AT ARI I AS A RETAIL
SALES SPECIALISTS FOR YOUR IN A
FEW MONTHS. UNTIL ABOUT JANUARY
THIRTY FIRST I WORKED AT THE ARI
I STORMED BERKELEY WHICH WAS THE
SECOND ARI I TO UNIONIZE. WE WON
RECOGNITION OF OUR UNION IN
AUGUST OF TWENTY TWENTY TWO. AS
SOON AS MANAGEMENT FOUND OUT
THAT WE WERE ORGANIZING THEY
STARTED HOLDING CAPTIVE AUDIENCE
MEETINGS A FEW TIMES A DAY TO
TRY AND STOP ORGANIZING EFFORTS
THEY WOULD USE DIFFERENT METHODS
FOR THESE MEETINGS SOME WOULD BE
GROUP MEETINGS IN THE MORNING
WITH WHOEVER WAS SCHEDULED TO
WORK IN THE STORE THAT DAY. AND
SOME WOULD BE PRIVATE ONE ON
ONES WITH MANAGEMENT'S
MANAGEMENT SPENDING OVER AN HOUR
WALKING AROUND THE STORE WITH US
AND TALKING TO US ABOUT UNIONS.
THEY ALSO USE THE STRATEGY OF
BRINGING IN VISITING MANAGERS TO
OUR STORE AFTER THE UNIONIZED
UNIONIZATION EFFORT BEGAN WE HAD
MORE MANAGERS. THAN BEFORE WE
HAD. ONLY BE AN ORGANIZING.
THOSE FLOATING MANAGERS HELD
CAPTIVE AUDIENCE MEETINGS WHILE
THEY WERE AT OUR STORE WILL ALSO
FALLING AROUND THE LOUDEST
PEOPLE ON ORGANIZING COMMITTEE.
A PERSONAL EXPERIENCE I HAD WAS
ONE VISITING MANAGER WHAT
CONSTANTLY FOLLOW ME AROUND AND
I HAD TO HAVE SEVERAL TALKS WITH
OUR STORE MANAGER AND OTHER
MANAGERS BEFORE I WAS ABLE TO
GET HER TO STOP LISTENING IN. ON
ALL OF MY CONVERSATIONS I'M
IMPORTING THEM BACK TO UPPER
MANAGEMENT. THEY WOULD ALSO USE
SCARE TACTICS AND TRY TO SPREAD
DISINFORMATION DURING THESE
MEETINGS. TELLING SALES
ASSOCIATES TO ASK CO WORKERS WHO
WANTED TO UNION TO EXPLAIN
EXACTLY WHAT A UNION PENSION
PLAN IS. TO TRY AND SOW DOUBT IN
PRO UNIONISTS YES OR SAYING
THINGS THAT WERE COMPLETELY
FALSE. LIKE THAT THE UNION WOULD
NEED TO APPROVE. ANY VACATION
REQUEST AND ALSO EXPLOITING THE
DAILY STRUGGLES THAT WORKERS OF
COLOR. WOULD CONFIDE INTO
MANAGERS ABOUT. THE CAPTIVE
AUDIENCE MEETINGS ARE ALSO VERY
VERY UNCOMFORTABLE I FELT LIKE
THEY WERE MANDATORY AND IT
ALWAYS SEEM LIKE MANAGERS WERE
READING A SCRIPT THAT WE HAD TO
LISTEN TO EITHER WITH A SMALL
GROUP OF PEOPLE OR MORE OFTEN
THAN NOT BY YOURSELF IN A
CRAMPED OFFICE. UPSTAIRS OR AS
WE ARE WALKING AWAY FROM THE
STORES. THIS MISINFORMATION
CAMPAIGN BY MANAGEMENT STARTED
TO WORK. THERE ARE A HUNDRED AND
TWENTY PEOPLE WHO WORK IN THE
BERKELEY STORE. ONCE THE CAPTIVE
AUDIENCE MEETINGS. ONCE THE
CAPTIVE AUDIENCE MEETINGS
STARTED. LEADERS OF THE
ORGANIZING EFFORT ME INCLUDED
BEGAN GETTING TEXTS FROM- THREE
TO FOUR PEOPLE A DAY. ABOUT THE
MISINFORMATION I WAS BEING
SPREAD AN EXAMPLE BEING THAT THE
UNION WOULD HAVE TO APPROVE
EDUCATION REQUESTS. WERE ABLE TO
OVERCOME THESE TACTICS AND WHEN
OUR UNION BUT THESE CAPTIVE
AUDIENCE MEETINGS WERE
INTIMIDATING TO MANY PEOPLE. AND
THEY HAVEN'T REALLY STOPPED. NOW
THEY USE THEM FOR BARGAINING AND
ATTEMPTING TO DELEGITIMIZE THE
UNION. AT OUR STORE AND
BARGAINING THEY PUT ACROSS
EASIER PERCENT WAGE PROPOSAL
OVER THE LIFE OF THE CONTRACT
AND THEN THEY- AND THEN I SAID
THEY HELD CAPTIVE AUDIENCE
MEETINGS WRAP UP SIR. RIGHT IN
OTHER STORES. IN CALIFORNIA. I'M
HERE TODAY BECAUSE OTHER WORKERS
SHOULDN'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH
WHAT WE WENT THROUGH I'M ASKING
FOR YOUR SUPPORT. AND URGING TO
PASSED SENATE BILL THREE NINE
NINE THAT WOULD PROHIBIT
EMPLOYERS FROM REQUIRING WORKERS
LIKE MYSELF TO ATTEND THESE
COERCIVE CAPTIVE AUDIENCE
MEETINGS. NEXT WITNESS. NATIONAL
MISTER CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF
THE COMMISSION GOT SPENT ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
TEACHERS PUBLIC AFFAIRS COUNCIL.
PROUD CO SPONSOR THIS BILL ALSO
THE AMALGAMATED TRANSIT UNION
UNITE HERE THE MACHINIST UTILITY
WORKERS UNION OF AMERICA. AND
THE ENGINEERS AND SCIENTISTS OF
CALIFORNIA ALL IN STRONG
SUPPORT. A COUPLE QUICK POINTS
ONE IS- THIS BILL IS REALLY
ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF THE KIND OF
POWER- THAT EMPLOYER WIELDS IN
THE WORKPLACE- THEY DON'T. WIELD
THAT POWER FAIRLY ALL THE TIME
AND YOU'VE HEARD FROM THE
PREVIOUS WITNESS SOMETIMES- WITH
RESPECT TO THESE CAPTIVE
AUDIENCE MEETINGS- IT REALLY IS.
DEGRADING TO THE EMPLOYEE
WHETHER IT'S YOU KNOW A
RELIGIOUS. DISCUSSION DISCUSSION
ABOUT UNIONS A DISCUSSION ABOUT
POLITICS- IT'S REALLY NOT
APPROPRIATE IN THE WORKPLACE AND
IT'S AND IT'S- JUST AS
APPROPRIATE FOR THE LEGISLATURE
TO PUT. PUT LIMITS ON THAT-
LASTLY. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF
TALK AT THAT THERE IS A FIRST
AMENDMENT ISSUE HERE THERE'S NO
FIRST AMENDMENT ISSUE- THE
EMPLOYER IS FREE TO TALK ABOUT
ANYTHING THEY WANT TO TALK ABOUT
THEY JUST CAN'T DISCIPLINE THE-
EMPLOYEE FOR NOT WANTING TO BE A
COERCED AUDIENCE AND THERE'S NO
FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT. TO HAVE
AN AUDIENCE WE- DRIVE UP THANK
YOU WITNESSES. IN SUPPORT NAME
AN ORGANIZATION ONLY. RIGHT
MISTER CHAIR MEMBER SERAPH LOCK
CAL LABOR FOR. AND IN SUPPORT
HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THANK YOU
. MISTER MEMBERS MIKE WEST ON
BEHALF OF THE STATE BUILDING AND
CONSTRUCTION TRADES COUNCIL SENT
TO PORT THANK YOU. MR CHEN
MEMBERS PAT MORAN WITH THEIR IN
READING ASSOCIATES REPRESENTING
THE ORANGE COUNTY EMPLOYEES
ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT THANK YOU
. GOOD MORNING JAMES MICHAEL
POWELL WITH ASKED ME CALIFORNIA
IN STRONG SUPPORT THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING CASSIE MANZINI ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA SCHOOL
EMPLOYEES ASSOCIATION AND
SUPPORT. MISTER MEMBERS PLAYER
OF THE HAVE THE CALIFORNIA
FACULTY ASSOCIATION IN STRONG
SUPPORT THANK YOU SEE NO FURTHER
WITNESSES AND SUPPORT WITNESSES
IN OPPOSITION.
THE FIRST WITNESS MISTER
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS COURTNEY JENSEN
ON BEHALF OF CALCHAMBER IN
OPPOSITION TO SB THREE NINE NINE
AS A JOB KILLER BILL. I WITH ALL
DUE RESPECT TO THE AUTHOR AND
SPONSORS THIS BILL HAS A MUCH
BROADER IMPACT IN THOSE SHARED
CURRENTLY BURKE CODE ALREADY
PROHIBITS EMPLOYERS FROM
ATTEMPTING TO COERCE OR
INFLUENCE EMPLOYEES POLITICAL
ACTIVITIES INCLUDING COURSING AN
EMPLOYEE TO VOTE A CERTAIN WAY
ATTEND A POLITICAL RALLY SUPPORT
OR OPPOSE CERTAIN LEGISLATION.
OR TO VOTE FOR OR AGAINST THE
UNION ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE
ALREADY ILLEGAL WHAT THIS BILL
DOES IS OPEN EMPLOYERS UP TO NEW
PAGO LITIGATION FOR SHARING
INFORMATION REGARDING BROADLY
DEFINED POLITICAL MATTERS WITH
EMPLOYEES. POLITICAL MATTERS IN
THE BILLERS WERE- IS DEFINED AS
LEGISLATION REGULATION ELECTIONS
POLITICAL PARTIES OR
UNIONIZATION THIS COULD IMPACT
EMPLOYER SPEECH AS SIMPLE AS A
POLITICAL SIGN A RESTAURANT
WINDOW HOSTING A LEGISLATOR AT A
MANUFACTURING FACILITY. SENDING
OUT AT COMPANY NEWSLETTER
EXPRESSING SUPPORT FOR EQUAL PAY
LEGISLATION HOSTING A REGULATOR
AT A FARM TO DISCUSS PENDING
PESTICIDE REGULATION NOW FOR
EMPLOYEE OPTS OUT OF THIS TYPE
SPEECH IN THE EMPLOYER ASSIGNS
THE WORKER TO A DIFFERENT
FACILITY ON THE DAY THEY HOST A
LEGISLATOR. CANNOT EMPLOYEE NOW
CALL THAT AN ADVERSE ACTION AND
SUE WE THINK YES AS WE SAW
DURING THE COPA NINETEEN
PANDEMIC IT IS OFTEN CRUCIAL FOR
EMPLOYERS TO BE ABLE TO
COMMUNICATE WITH THEIR WORKERS
ON PENDING NEW RULES. AND WHAT
IT WOULD MEAN FOR THE WORKPLACE
THE EXCEPTIONS IN THIS BILL DO
NOT ALLOW EMPLOYER SPEECH UNLESS
IT IS A NECESSARY TO PERFORM
THEIR JOB JOB DUTIES ARE
REQUIRED BY LAW THERE ARE MANY
INSTANCES OF POLITICAL MATTER
SPEECHES OF SUCH AS PENDING CODE
REGULATIONS ARE EXECUTIVE ORDERS
THAT IS IMPORTANT FOR EMPLOYERS
TO SHARE WITH EMPLOYEES. THAT
MAY NOT BE REQUIRED OR NECESSARY
FOR JOB DUTIES THE PRACTICAL
EFFECT OF THIS BILL WILL BE
ENDING ANY ACTIVE ANY EMPLOYER
SPEECH INVOLVING POLITICAL
MATTERS AS WELL OF A SIGNIFICANT
CHILLING EFFECT ON THE SPEECH OF
EMPLOYERS. AND ALSO INFORMATION
BEING PROVIDED TO EMPLOYEES
ABOUT ISSUES IMPORTANT TO THE
BUSINESS EVENT FOR THEIR JOBS.
IF THERE IS LEGISLATION PENDING
THAT WOULD HAVE A POSITIVE OR
NEGATIVE IN IMPACT ON THE
BUSINESS THE WORKER JOBS. THIS
IS SOMETHING WORKERS WOULD WANT
TO KNOW ABOUT WE BELIEVE THIS
RUNS AFOUL OF THE FIRST
AMENDMENT AS A CONTENT BASED
RESTRICTION. VERY QUICKLY WE
ALSO BELIEVE IT IS PREEMPTED BY
THE NATIONAL RELATED LABOR
RELATIONS ACT. AS IT DOES ALLOW
EMPLOYEES EMPLOYERS TO HAVE.
MEETINGS REGARDING UNION
ORGANIZATION EMPLOYERS ARE
PERMITTED TO HOLD MEETING.
DURING UNION ELECTION CAMPAIGNS
TO EXPRESS THEIR VIEWS HOWEVER
THEY CAN NOT THREATEN PUNISH OR
PROMISED BENEFITS TO EMPLOYEES.
FOR THESE REASONS AND OTHERS WE
ARE RESPECTFULLY REQUESTED NO
ABOUT THANK YOU NEXT WITNESS.
THANK YOU MR THANK YOU MR
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS MY NAME IS ERIN
AVERY WITH THE CALIFORNIA
SPECIAL DISTRICTS ASSOCIATION.
REPRESENTING A VARIETY OF LOCAL
GOVERNMENT EMPLOYERS PROVIDING
ESSENTIAL LOCALS BUT- PROVIDING
ESSENTIAL SERVICES IN THEIR
COMMUNITIES. I'VE ALSO BEEN
ASKED TO MAKE REMARKS ON BEHALF
OF THE RURAL COUNTY
REPRESENTATIVES OF CALIFORNIA. I
WANT TO FIRST ACKNOWLEDGE AND
THANK THE AUTHOR FOR WILLINGNESS
TO MEET WITH US AND HER
CONCERNS. HOWEVER WE REMAIN
RESPECTFULLY OPPOSED BECAUSE SB
THREE NINETY NINE IS
INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE
FUNCTIONING OF PUBLIC EMPLOYERS.
LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ARE NOT
TYPICAL EMPLOYERS. LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS ARE ACCOUNTABLE TO
THE VOTERS IN FUNCTION TO
DEVELOP AND IMPLEMENT POLICY.
THIS MAY COME IN THE FORM OF
SELF GENERATED POLICY AND
ORDINANCES LEGISLATION. AS WELL
AS LEGISLATION COMING FROM THE
STATE LEGISLATURE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT OR ELSEWHERE. THE
BROAD DEFINITION OF POLITICAL
MATTERS IN THIS BILL. COULD GIVE
RISE TO THE BILL'S APPLICATION
IN A VARIETY OF CIRCUMSTANCES
WHICH ARE NOT THE TARGET. FOR
EXAMPLE. IN EMPLOYEE REQUIRED TO
ATTEND THE CITY COUNCIL OR BOARD
MEETING. AS A PART OF THEIR JOB.
ARGUABLY MAY BE REQUIRED MAY BE
REQUIRED TO ATTEND A PART A AND
EMPLOYER SPONSORED MEETING. AT
WHICH THE EMPLOYER'S OPINIONS
ABOUT POLITICAL MATTERS ARE
BEING SHARED. EATING'S IN THE
FORM OF INTERNAL DELIBERATIONS
ANALYSIS VETTING OF LOCAL RULES.
OR CONSIDERATION OF OR
IMPLEMENTATION OF OTHER RULES
AND LAWS APPLICABLE TO LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS COULD ALSO CROSS THE
LINE IN SOME CIRCUMSTANCES. WE
DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THE
EXEMPTIONS AND ESPYS AND SB
THREE NINETY NINE- SUFFICIENT IN
A FRANKLY WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO
CRAFT EXEMPTIONS BROAD ENOUGH.
TO COVER ALL THE TYPES OF
ROUTINE GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS
THAT COULD BE CAUGHT UP IN THIS
BILL. UNFORTUNATELY THE ONLY WAY
TO KNOW THE OUTER BOUNDS OF SB
THREE NINETY NINE IS THROUGH
LITIGATION THE EXPENSE OF WHICH
WILL BE BORNE BY THE TAXPAYER. I
ALSO NOTE THAT LOCAL GOVERNMENT
EMPLOYEES ARE ALREADY AFFORDED
SIGNIFICANT ENFORCEABLE
PROTECTIONS FROM ANTI UNION
ACTIVITIES UNDER THE GOVERNMENT
COAT. WE ARE NOT AWARE OF THESE
PROVISIONS OF LAW FAILING TO
PROTECT OR VINDICATE THE RIGHTS
OF EMPLOYEES. I AGAIN WANT TO
THANK THE AUTHOR FOR HER TIME
AND WILLINGNESS TO MEET WITH US
BUT TODAY ASKED FOR A NO VOTE
THANK YOU THANK YOU FOR THE
WITNESSES AND SUPPORT NAME AN
ORGANIZATION ONLY. YEAH I MEAN I
POSITION I SAW YOU YOU TURN
SUDDENLY REALIZE. I THOUGHT YOU
WERE GIVING US A CHANCE AND NOW
A GOOD MORNING CHAIR CHRIS
CEILIDH ON. OF THE LOSS. AREA
CHAMBER OF COMMERCE IN
RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION TO CENTER
WILL HOBBS BILL THANK YOU. GOOD
MORNING MR CHAIRMAN BRISSAC
COMMITTEE CHRIS WALKER ON BEHALF
OF THREE HUNDRED- SHEET METAL
AIR CONDITIONING CONTRACTORS
UNION CONTRACTORS ACROSS THE
STATE. IN OPPOSITION TO THIS
BILL. HI GOOD MORNING ALYSSA HI
ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
ASSOCIATION OF RECREATION AND
PARKS DISTRICT AND ALSO ON
BEHALF OF MY COLLEAGUES AT THE
CALIFORNIA. STATE ASSOCIATION OF
COUNTIES. B. M. URBAN COUNTIES
OF CALIFORNIA. CAL CITIES AND
ASSOCIATION OF CALIFORNIA
HEALTHCARE DISTRICT ALIGNER
COMMENTS WITH OUR COLLEAGUES AT
CST INTEREST HERE'S THE IN
OPPOSITION THANK YOU. AS SARAH
PALOMO WITH CALIFORNIA RETAILERS
ASSOCIATION RESPECTFULLY OPPOSED
. GOOD MORNING SABRINA LOCKHART
WITH THE CALIFORNIA TRACTION
SOME PARKS ASSOCIATION IN
OPPOSITION THANK YOU. NICK
CHAMPION BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA TRUCKING ASSOCIATION
IN OPPOSITION THANK YOU. GOOD
MORNING KATIE DAVEY WITH A
CALIFORNIA RESTAURANT
ASSOCIATION IN OPPOSITION. GOOD
MORNING ROBERT WILSON CALIFORNIA
CREDIT UNION LEAGUE HERE IN
OPPOSITION THANK YOU. GOOD
MORNING MELANIE CUEVAS WITH
CALIFORNIA BANKERS ASSOCIATION
ALSO IN OPPOSITION ALIGN OUR
COMMENTS WITH THOSE OF THE FROM
THE CHAMBER THANK YOU. LAWRENCE
GAIN WITH THE CALIFORNIA
MANUFACTURING TECHNOLOGY SOCIAL
ASIAN IN OPPOSITION THANK YOU
THANK YOU SEE NO FURTHER
WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM
COMMITTEE OUR MOTION. MISTER
SEVEN- LET ME ASK THE
SUPPORTERS. WHAT CONDUCT BY
EMPLOYERS- GIVE EXAMPLES OF THAT
IS IN A READY ILLEGAL MIKE WHAT
WE TRYING TO DO HERE. THE BILL
IS VERY SPECIFIC IN THAT IT IS
WOULD PROHIBIT AN EMPLOYER FROM
TAKING ADVERSE ACTION SO THIS
DOES NOT RESTRICT IN ANY WAY AN
EMPLOYER'S ABILITY TO
COMMUNICATE. THEIR VIEWS ON
POLITICAL OR RELIGIOUS MATTERS
BUT IT WOULD PROHIBIT EITHER
TAKING THAT ADVERSE ACTION OR IN
SOME WAY PREVENTING A WORKER
FROM FROM BE ABLE TO DO THEIR
JOB GIVE ME A REAL LIFE EXAMPLE
OF AN EMPLOYER. DOING QUITE HERE
THERE IS AN EXAMPLE SO- IN THE
CASE OF TRUMP IS SELL OIL HELD A
MANDATORY RALLY WHERE WORKERS.
IN I BELIEVE IT WAS IN OHIO IN
CALIFORNIA IS PENNSYLVANIA DO
YOU HAVE ANY EXAMPLES IN
CALIFORNIA S. IN CALIFORNIA
DURING PROP TWENTY TWO ONE OF
THE EXAMPLES WHERE THAT DRIVERS
HAD TO BEFORE THEY ARE ABLE TO
LOG IN. AND BE ABLE TO START
THEIR SHIP TO WORK THEY HAD TO
WATCH A YES ON PROP TWENTY TO
ADD AND THEN CLICK TO AFFIRM
THAT THEY HAD WATCHED THE AD
BEFORE THEY WERE. IS THAT WE
HAVE A NUMBER OF PROPOSITIONS
THAT ARE GOING TO BE ON THE
BALLOT THAT. VERY MUCH OF FACT
WORKERS AND UNIONS DO NOT HOLD
CAPTIVE AUDIENCES DO YOU THINK
UNIONS DON'T FORCE EMPLOYEES TO
LISTEN TO POLITICAL STATEMENTS
AND VIEWS AND COURSE SOME INTO
POLITICAL POSITIONS. DO YOU
THINK UNIONS DON'T THREATEN
EMPLOYEES DO YOU THINK THEY
DON'T PROVIDE MISINFORMATION YOU
DON'T THINK THEY WILL POWER YOU
DON'T THINK THEIR COERCIVE. SO
MY QUESTION IS WHY NOT HAVE THE
SAME RULES ON THE UNIONS WHO ARE
ENGAGED IN WAY MORE POLITICAL
ACTIVITY THAN ANY EMPLOYER I
KNOW THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA
UNIONS DON'T EMPLOY WORKERS. AND
SEVENTEEN WATER NOT OUR DAY IN
UNDER LABOR LAW THEY'RE NOT
TAKING ADVERSE ACTION THIS BILL
IS FOCUSED ON THE ADVERSE ACTION
OF EMPLOYERS. IF THERE'S A POWER
DYNAMIC IN THE WORKPLACE THEY
HAVE THE ABILITY TO HIRE TO FIRE
TO DISCIPLINE AND IN INDIA
DIRECTLY IMPACT THE LIVELIHOOD
OF WORKERS OFTEN LOW WAGE
IMMIGRANT WORKERS THAT'S WHAT
THIS BILL IS SAYING THAT
EMPLOYERS ARE NOT GOING TO BE
ABLE TO TAKE THAT. ADVERSE
ACTION AGAINST EMPLOYEE WHO
DECLINES TO BE COERCED TO
LISTENING TO EMPLOYERS POLITICAL
SPEECH IT DOES NOT STOP THE
EMPLOYER IN ANY WAY. FROM SAYING
WHAT EVER THEY WANT ON
LEGISLATION ON REGULATIONS ON
ANYTHING THAT IS POLITICAL OR
RELIGIOUS LET ME ASK THE
OPPOSITION DO UNIONS HAVE ANY.
INFLUENCE OVER ASSIGNMENTS HER.
PEOPLE'S WORKPLACES. IN YOUR
EXPERIENCE. SO IN ART WELL I'LL
GIVE YOU THIS AT UNDER THE
NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS ACT
WHEN IT COMES TO UNIONIZATION
THERE ARE VERY CLEAR RULES OF
THE ROAD FOR WHAT EMPLOYERS
CAN'T CANNOT. SPEAK ABOUT DURING
THE UNIONIZATION PROCESS THERE
ARE NOT THOSE SAME ROLES DURING
THE UNIONIZATION PROCESS FOR THE
UNIONS WHO ARE ATTEMPTING TO
UNIONIZE THE WORKERS. SO THERE
ARE VERY CLEAR RULES VERY
SPECIFIC THINGS THAT WE CANNOT
DO- AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS
THERE'S- THERE'S- NO
RESTRICTIONS ON THE OTHER SIDE
DO YOU. STUDENT JOURNAL DO
UNIONS CONTROL ASSIGNMENTS OR
CAN IT DO THEY HAVE ANY
INFLUENCE AT THE WORK PLACE OVER
THERE WILL BE A BENEFITS GIVE
IN- FOR THAT. FOR THAT THINGS
THAT UNION WORKERS DUE TO-
DURING WITH WORKING WITH THEIR
UNION SO IF THEY GO TO A CITY
COUNCIL MEETING OR IF THEY GO TO
YOU KNOW OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT
THEY MAKE IT JOB ASSIGNMENTS OR
GO BE HIGHER IN THAT. ASSIGNMENT
PROCESS AND THOSE TYPES OF-
INTERACTION ALL RIGHT I'LL JUST
CLOSE THIS MISTER CHAIR ONE
THING I KNOW FOR SURE HAVING
BEEN HERE FOR SIX MONTHS. UNIONS
HAVE WAY MORE POWER IN THE STATE
THAN ANY EMPLOYER I KNOW ALMOST
EVERY BILL IS SPONSORED OR
SUPPORTED- OR LOBBIED BY SOME
UNIONS SO THE IDEA THAT
EMPLOYERS ARE WIELDING ALL THIS
POLITICAL POWER IS NOT TRUE.
UNIONS ARE FUNDED ALMOST SOLELY
FOR POLITICAL INFLUENCE THEY'RE
WAY MORE MONEY THAN ANY EMPLOYER
JUST LOOK AT THE POLITICS LOOK
AT THE POLITICAL CONTRIBUTIONS.
ABOUT THE UNIONS THERE'S A
SPILLOVER A PLOY YEAH HOW. MUCH
IT'S ABOUT. MOTION THIS I THINK
HER POINT TO SUSTAINED MR SALLY
YOU'RE CERTAINLY ALLOWED TO ON
BILL. BUT YOU MAY BEYOND THAT.
TALKING ABOUT YOU AND- OR LET
JUST AND ARE EVERY BILL IN THE
ASSEMBLY SO IF YOU'D LIKE TO ASK
THE AUTHOR THE AUTHOR IS
WITNESSES OR THE OPPOSITION
WITNESS ABOUT SPECIFICS ABOUT
THE BILL THAT'S APPROPRIATE
MOVING BEYOND THAT IS NOT
APPROPRIATE. MISTER CHAIR THEY
BROUGHT UP THE POWER DYNAMICS OF
EMPLOYERS I'M SIMPLY REBUTTING
IT WITH THE POWER DYNAMICS TO
UNIONS. I DON'T REALLY THINK
MUCH MORE NEEDS TO BE SAID SO
WITH THAT I YIELD AND I'LL BE
OPPOSING THIS BILL THANK YOU MS
MCKENNA. I CAN'T SAY I THANK I'M
THE AUTHOR OF SEVERAL HOP. IN
THE BILL UP I DID- THANK YOU ALL
TO MY MAYBE FOR. GIVE ME THAT
HELP ME TO READ THROUGH ANALIS-
IT IS IT. JUST. TO TALK WHAT
YOU'RE- SAID ABOUT UNIONS IN
DYNAMIC. IT IS A POWER DYNAMIC
INTO WITH THAT WITH AN EMPLOYEE
THAT'S NOT IT'S NINE UNION UNION
THAT DOES I'M A UNION MEMBER
I'VE BEEN A UNION MEMBER FOR
THIRTY YEARS. I KNOW THIS IS NOT
ON THE UNIONS BUT UNIONS. WHERE
I WORKED THEY DON'T HAVE ANY
INFLUENCE OVER WHERE I WORK I
WORK FOR DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL
SERVICES. THERE WAS NO POWER
DYNAMIC THERE BUT WHEN THEY AT
ONCE WHEN AN EMPLOYER MAKES AN
EMPLOYEE WATCH A FILM. A
PROPOSITION FILM OR FILM. TAKES
THAT IS ABUSIVE OF ABUSE OF
POWER AND I SUPPORT THIS BILL
BECAUSE WE CANNOT HAVE THAT
HAPPENING. TERM PLAYS AND I
WORKERS IN THIS IN IN CALIFORNIA
AND- LABOR HAS NOTHING TO DO
WITH ANYTHING LIKE THAT BECAUSE-
THEY DON'T CONTROL THE
WORKPLACE. THANK YOU ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM
COMMITTEE SEEN. NINE TO HAVE A
MISS REST OF COMMENTS- MUCH. I
WANT TO THANK- CENTRAL HIGH.
THERE ARE ISSUES- THE THIRD
ISSUES THAT ARE BROUGHT UP BY
THE OPPOSITION. AND THE GOOD
THING THAT THE REP. MANY AND SO
WITH SAYING IS TRUE. AND WITH
THE CORE. IS ACCU. BUT THE
PROBLEM IS THE- WE HEAR FROM THE
VERY EMPLOYER. WHO ARE NOT
FOLLOWING WHAT THE LAW ALREADY
STATES. AND I DID WANT TO AYE I
KNOW THAT THE QUESTION WAS ASKED
AND OTHER CENTRAL HUB WAS NOT
HERE. AND- I KNOW THAT DIDN'T
ANSWERS GIVEN BUT ON PAGE. NINE
OF THE- AND NOW. AT THE TOP IT
HASN'T OF- WHERE COERCION. AUDIO
WERE. OF THESE THESE MEET WITH.
WE'RE OVER- AMAZON- YOU KNOW
MARIN OF DAY IN DAY. PETE'S CAR
GOOGLE ALREADY I APPLES TO ALL
IN CAL. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE
SURE THAT THAT WAS BROUGHT UP-
IT HAS TO DO WITH POWER WITHOUT
A DOUBT- THAT IS WHAT WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT SOMEBODY HAS POWER
OVER HOW MUCH YOU'RE GOING TO
EARN. OVER WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE
GOING TO WORK THERE- AND THE
VERY EXAMPLES ARE NOTED HERE I
CAN TELL YOU IS A WORKERS COMP
ATTORNEY I'VE HEARD THOSE FROM
MANY OF MY- ON. MY HANDS WHEN I
PRACTICED. RIGHT I THINK HAVING
THAT KIND OF BALANCE WHEN THERE
IS NO BALANCE WHEN THERE IS
ABUSE OF POWER I THINK IS
EXTREMELY IMPORTANT- FOR THE
OPPOSITION I APPRECIATE THAT
THEY REPRESENT VERY GOOD
EMPLOYERS WHO ARE NOT DOING
THIS. BUT CLEARLY THERE IS AN
ISSUE AND IT HAS TO BE ADDRESSED
AND WITH THAT I WOULD MOVE THE
BILL THANK YOU HAVE A MOTION.
FROM HIS REST. SECOND FROM MISS
MCKENNA- THANK YOU VERY MUCH- TO
THE AUTHOR AND ASK YOU TO PLEASE
CLOSE THANK YOU- FOR ME THIS IS
ABOUT DEMOCRACY IN THE
WORKPLACE. WE HOPE TO BE ABLE TO
FOR THOSE EMPLOYEES ALL FEEL
SAFE AND PROTECTED FROM- THE
POWER OF- THAT IS OVER THEM
THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND
EVERYTHING I WROTE THANK YOU THE
MOTIONS TO PASS APPROPRIATIONS.
COMMITTEE ESCORT TO PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL. HM I MAIENSCHEIN I IS
SALIH NO SALIH NOKE. CONNELLY I
DIXON. HANEY HEY I CALL. THE
CHECKER. HAPPEN HAPPEN I REYES.
REYES I SANCIOUS. SANCHEZ NOW
MCKENNA. MCENERY YOUR BILL IS
OUT THANK YOU THANK YOU CENTER
I'M BURKE HAS THREE I'M MIND
THAT WE HAVE- OF BOTH PARTIES
HAVE ****. AT TODAY. SO WE ARE I
BELIEVE THE MORE DE. BILLS SO
HOPEFULLY WE CAN SOME OF THESE
WE CAN. POUNDS THROUGH PRETTY
QUICKLY I BELIEVE- AM I REMIND
THE WITNESSES TO ITS TWO MINUTES
TWO MINUTES OR LESS- TOO SO WE
CAN TRY TO. MAKE SURE WE GET
THROUGH OUR VERY BUSY DOCKET
TODAY WITH THAT CENTER WHERE YOU
CAN START WITH. THIS ITEM ONE SB
THIRTY FIVE ALREADY THANK YOU
VERY MUCH MISTER CHAIR IN A IN A
NOTE TO SENATOR ALSO A SHE NEED
NOT HURRY BACK BECAUSE WHEN I
LEFT WE HAD THIRTY TWO BILLS
LEFT AND SENATE JUDICIARY. AND
MY APOLOGIES TO ASSEMBLY MEMBERS
OF BURKE- I HOPE HE'S HAD HIS
THIRD LEAST. STARTING TO HAVE
HIS RED BULL ALL RIGHT- SO A. B.
SB THIRTY FIVE IT IS SIMPLY CARE
COURT CLEAN UP BILL- THE CARE
COURTS WERE CONCEIVED. IN ORDER
TO RESPOND TO THE ISSUE OF.
THOSE WHO HAVE UNTREATED
SCHIZOPHRENIA WHERE SITE.
PSYCHOTIC DISORDERS THAT ARE ON
THE HOUSE- SINCE PATCHES THIS
BILL JUDICIARY COUNCIL HAS
ENGAGED TO WORK. TO MAKE SURE
THAT. ISSUES THAT- WE'RE
IDENTIFYING BECAUSE BEFORE CARE
COURT BECOMES OPERATIONAL OUR
OF. BOTH IDENTIFIED AND TO THE
BEST OF OUR ABILITY REMEDIED-
WHAT THIS DOES IS IT ALLOWS
SUBORDINATE JUDICIAL OFFICERS TO
CONDUCT HEARINGS AND REMOVES THE
FILING FEE. FROM INDIGENT
FILERS- I WOULD URGE AN AYE VOTE
WITH ME HERE'S TRACY KENNY FROM
JUDICIAL COUNCIL TO RESPOND ANY
QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
TRACY PENNY WITH THE JUDICIAL
COUNCIL REALLY APPRECIATE CENTER
AMBERG TRYING TO CLARIFY SOME OF
THESE PROVISIONS THAT THE COURTS
WERE IN COHORT ONE WILL BE ABLE
TO IMPLEMENT ON OCTOBER FIRST
AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. ANY
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT. SCENE NINE
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION. AND
DATA CENTER VIRGIE DIFFERENT
WEATHER COMING UP YOU ACCEPTED
MEHMET'S I. I DO ACCEPT THE
AMENDMENTS AND- I THINK. MISS
ALISON MERRILEES. FOR HER HELP
AND SUPPORT ON THE BILL THANK
YOU WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION
PLEASE PROCEED. MY NAME IS
MARIANNE BERNARD I AM A MEMBER
OF NOT ME I AM A MEMBER OF THE
FAMILY OF ADVOCATES FOR THE
SEVERELY MENTALLY ILL. AND WHAT
I AM OPPOSED ONLY TO WHAT WAS.
SUPPOSED TO BE A TECHNICAL
AMENDMENT WHICH IS ACTUALLY
TAKEN AWAY. THE DISCRETION FROM
THE JUDICIARY TO HEAR FROM
FAMILY WITNESSES YOU ARE
ALLOWING SEVERELY MENTALLY ILL
PEOPLE TO WITNESS TAMPER IN IT
NEEDS TO STOP THANK YOU. MELNICK
LINDEMANN I'M AN ADVOCATE WITH
THE SEVERE MENTALLY ILL DAUGHTER
WHO IS MISSING- ALSO A NATIVE
PERSON- I WOULD JUST SAY DEBT ON
WHAT SHE'S SAYING- THANK YOU
THANK YOU. HELLO ALISON MUNRO
FAMILIES FOR- ADVOCATING FOR THE
SERIOUSLY MENTALLY ILL I VERY
MUCH SUPPORT CARE COURT I
APPRECIATE LAST YEAR'S BILL I DO
NOT SUPPORT THESE AMENDMENTS
BECAUSE AS MARIANNE BERNARD
SAID. THEY LIMIT THE
OPPORTUNITIES OF FAMILIES TO
TELL THE STORY OF THE PERSON WHO
NEEDS PROTECTION THE AMENDMENTS
SEARCH. THANK YOU NAME AN
ORGANIZATION ONLY PLACE- KEVIN
WILL DOCTORAL STUDENT THE
SUSTAINABILITY AND HEALTH EQUITY
LAB AND THE DISABLED THE
COLLEGE'S LAB AT THE UNIVERSITY
OF CALIFORNIA BERKELEY- OPPOSED
BECAUSE OF THE REDUCTION IN DUE
PROCESS FOR. CLEAN. PAUL SIMONS
WITH THE DEPRESSION AND BIPOLAR
SUPPORT ALLIANCE OF CALIFORNIA
AND WE OPPOSE. GOOD AFTERNOON DO
COONEY ON BEHALF OF A SO YOU
CALIFORNIA ACTION IN OPPOSITION
THANK YOU THANK YOU SEEN NO
FURTHER WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION.
AT QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM
COMMITTEE OUR MOTION. MOTION FOR
MISTER HANEY SECOND FROM MISS
PAP IN SEEN NO QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS FROM THE COMMITTEE.
SORRY MY CLOSE THANK YOU LET ME
JUST CLARIFY ONE POINT- THESE
AMENDMENTS NOR DOES THE BILL. IN
ITS ORIGINAL FORM IN ANY WAY
LIMIT THE ABILITY FOR FAMILY
MEMBER TO PROVIDE INPUT TO
PROVIDE TESTIMONY PROVIDE
INFORMATION JUST TO MAKE SURE
THAT THAT'S CLEAR THANK YOU
ORIGINAL VOTE THANK YOU. UP WE
HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ASK
THE COURT TO PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL MOTIONS TO PASS AS AMENDED
TO ADD AN URGENCY CLAUSE THE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE.
MAIENSCHEIN I MENTION I. SA.
SALIH I CONNELLY. CONNELLY I
DIXON. AB AMY HI KALRA. THE
CHECK. HAPPENED HAPPEN ON REYES
. REYES ICE. SANCHEZ I'M THE
KENNER. KENNER YOUR BILL IS OUT
. ITEM NUMBER S. B. FOR. YEAH
MOTION FOR MOTION FOR MS REYES
SECOND FROM. THIS NUMBER PLEASE
PROCEED- WELL WELL THANK YOU
MUCH I WANT CLARIFY FEW THINGS
FIRST OF ALL THIS BILL SIMPLY
PROVIDES THAT THE- FEES FROM
LAST YEAR WILL CONTINUE TO THIS
YEAR THERE IS NO. BUDGET CUTS
LET ME REPEAT THERE IS NO BUDGET
CUTS NOT WITHSTANDING WHAT THE
BAR HIS SAID FOR EXAMPLE AS
REPORTED BY SENATOR HERTZBERG
OVER THE WEEKEND. THAT WHEN YOU
CALL TO GET A BAR CART AND THEY
SAY OH I'M SORRY YOU CAN'T GET A
BAR CART BECAUSE OF BUDGET CUTS
THAT'S NOT ACCURATE. NUMBER ONE
NUMBER TWO NOT WAS STANDING WITH
THE BENCH BAR HAS BEEN INFORMED
THAT SOMEHOW BECAUSE OF BUDGET
CUTS. THE JENNY COMMISSION CAN'T
BE FULLY FUNDED AND THUS WE HAVE
JUDICIAL VACANCIES THAT'S NOT
ACCURATE NUMBER THREE- THAT-
THE- THAT THE BENCHMARK
COALITION WAS INFORMED THAT THE
COURTS IN SOME WAY HAMPERED
BECAUSE OF STATE BAR BUDGET
CUTS. THAT'S ALSO NOT ACCURATE
NOR IS THERE TO BE A- REDUCTION
IN FORCE BECAUSE OF STATE BAR
BUDGET CUTS THAT'S NOT ACCURATE
WITH THIS BILL DOES DO IS
BESIDES. IMPLEMENTING THE SAME
FEE AS LAST YEAR IT IT ALSO
INCREASES LEGISLATIVE OVERSIGHT
IT PROVIDES FOR SENATE
CONFIRMATION FOR THE EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR AND THE GENERAL
COUNSEL- THERE'S BEEN. A GREAT
DEAL CONTROVERSY CONCERNING THE
STATE BAR- THANK YOU TOM GIRARDI
FOR. PROVIDING THAT REVELATION
AS TO HOW. MUCH REFORM IS
REQUIRED WE APPRECIATE THAT- AND
I ALSO APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT
THE FOR EXAMPLE RUBEN DURAN THE
CURRENT- CHAIR OF THE BOARD OF
TRUSTEES- I BELIEVE IS
PROVIDING- FIRM AND POSITIVE
LEADERSHIP BARS IN THE RIGHT
DIRECTION. BUT FOR RIGHT NOW I
THINK THAT WE NEED TO MAINTAIN
THE FEE AS IT WAS LAST YEAR AND
I THINK WE NEED TO PROVIDE SOME
ADDITIONAL- A STRUCTURE
ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THE STATE BAR
. THANK THAT ORIGINAL VOTE THANK
YOU WE HAVE A MOTION AND A
SECOND THE MOTION IS TO PASS AS
AMENDED ESCORT TO PLEASE- MISSED
SEVEN THANK. YOUR DOES MORE THAN
THAT CENTER INCLUDES A PROVISION
THAT SAYS THAT TOURNEY'S NOW ARE
GONNA BE REQUIRED TO FILE A BAR
COMPLAINT IF THEY BELIEVE IN
OTHER ATTORNEYS ENGAGED IN
TREASON SEDITION OR INSURRECTION
WHY IS IT NECESSARY TO PUT IN
HERE. SO COUPLE THINGS ONE
CALIFORNIA IS THE ONLY STATE IN
THE UNION- THAT DOESN'T HAVE OR
AT LEAST DIDN'T HAVE UNTIL VERY
RECENTLY A REQUIREMENT THAT
ATTORNEYS REPORT OTHER ATTORNEYS
WHO ENGAGE IN MISCONDUCT IN
TERMS OF TREASON. AND SEDITION-
WELL THAT THAT'S BECOME AN
ISSUE. IN THE LAST COUPLE OF
YEARS WITH RESPECT TO ATTORNEYS
WHO FACILITATE AID AND ABET AND
EVEN CONSPIRED TO FOR EXAMPLE
OVERTHROW THE GOVERNMENT. THEY
CONSPIRED TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S
NOT A PEACEFUL TRANSITION OF
POWER OF THE FEDERAL LEVEL WELL
PRIMARILY THE FEDERAL LEVEL. SO
IF AN ATTORNEY FOR EXAMPLE SEES
ANOTHER TOURNEY IS AN ESSENCE
CONCOCTING THE LEGAL THEORY-
THAT PURPORTS TO PUT THE VICE
PRESIDENT IN A POSITION. WHERE
THE VICE PRESIDENT IS THE SOLE
ARBITER OF A NATIONAL ELECTION
THAT WOULD BE TREASONOUS AND SO.
IF A LAWYER SEES ANOTHER LAWYER
DOING THAT THEY WOULD DO TO
REPORT TO THE BAR. DOESN'T MAKE
IT INTO A PARTICULAR CRIME. OKAY
I JUST I HAVE QUESTIONS ON THAT
BECAUSE I DON'T WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT LAWYERS MAKING
CONSTITUTIONAL ARGUMENTS IN A
COURT OF LAW I THINK COURTS ARE
WELL EQUIPPED TO. DISPENSE WITH
ARGUMENTS WITH A MERIT OR NOT
I'M CONCERNED WITH THE
WEAPONIZATION. OF THE BAR
COMPLAINT SYSTEM AGAINST
CONSERVATIVE LAWYERS SUCH AS
JOHNNIE SPIN IS GOING THROUGH IT
RIGHT NOW WHO MADE A
CONSTITUTIONAL ARGUMENT. ABOUT
ELECTED OFFICIALS VIOLATING THE
CONSTITUTION CHANGING ELECTION
RULES SO I HAVE A QUESTION IN
TWENTY SIXTEEN THERE'S AN
ATTORNEY NAMED JOHN BURKE B. I.
R. K. E. ANY FILED A RESTRAINING
ORDER IN CALIFORNIA TO BAR ALL
MEMBERS OF THE ELECTORAL
COLLEGE. FROM VOTING FOR
PRESIDENT TRUMP IN A MOTION
FILED IN FEDERAL COURT NAMING
ALL FIVE HUNDRED THIRTY EIGHT
MEMBERS OF THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE
HE CLAIMED THE VOTES THEM VOTING
FOR TRUMP WOULD VIOLATE THE
EQUAL PROTECTION CLAUSE. THEY
ALSO WERE NUMBER OF ATTORNEYS
WHO MAIN ARGUMENT THAT TRUMP IS
UNFIT AND UNDER FOREIGN
INFLUENCE AND THEREFORE HE
SHOULD BE CAN. AS PRESIDENT SO
WHY HAVE NONE OF THESE ATTORNEYS
EVER SUFFERED A BAR COMPLAINT OR
PROCEEDING AND WOULD YOU REPORT
MISTER JOHN BURKE AS A RESULT OF
YOUR BILL NOW. WELL THEY THEY
PROBABLY HAVEN'T RECEIVED A
COMPLAINT BECAUSE THIS WASN'T
THE LAW- PREVIOUSLY. BUT IT IS
THE LAW. I WOULD HOPE HERE SOON
THAT IF IT'D TURN SEIZE ANOTHER
. WHO IS ATTEMPTING TO FOR
EXAMPLE FOR THE- PEACEFUL
TRANSITION OF POWER. THAT THAT
ATTORNEY WOULD REPORT THE
ATTORNEY TREASON- IS DEFINED IN
FEDERAL CODE- I. IF NOT CLEAR
ENOUGH I'LL BE HAPPY TO FURTHER
DEFINE IT HERE USING THE FEDERAL
DEFINITION OF TREASON. OF
WHETHER OR NOT MR EASTMAN IS
COULD COMMITTED TREASON OR NOT
THAT'S FOR OTHERS TO JUDGE. SO
WOULD YOU REPORT MR BURKE. WELL
I I'M NOT PREPARED TO RESPOND TO
HYPOTHETICAL QUESTIONS- BUT IF
MR BURKE. OF FELL WITHIN THE
DEFINITION OF THE OF TREASON AS
DEFINED BY THE UNITED STATES
CODE. THEN YES AND I WAS AWARE
OF IT YES I WOULD REPORT HIM
OKAY. ALL RIGHT I JUST I'LL
CLOSE WITH THIS MISTER TRIED I
JUST HAVE CONCERNS A LOT OF
TIMES AS LAWYERS WE OPPOSE
ACTIONS OF THE GOVERNMENT FOR
EXAMPLE. THERE IS A BIG IN
JUNCTION WHERE LAWYERS OPPOSE
THE GOVERNMENT INTERFERING IN
FREE SPEECH AND CENSORING PEOPLE
ON SOCIAL MEDIA. I HAVE A
CONCERN WHERE THE GOVERNMENT
SAYS HEY WE'RE ACTING THE PUBLIC
GOOD THIS IS FOR PUBLIC INTEREST
AND LAWYERS ARE CHALLENGING THIS
IS THIS NOW TREASONOUS. TO GO
AGAINST YOUR GOVERNMENT IT WAS
THE POLICY THE UNITED STATES TO
HAVE SEGREGATION IF YOU ATTACK
THOSE LAWS YOU SEE THOSE LAWS
ARE BAD THERE ARE
CONSTITUTIONAL. IS THAT
TREASONOUS THAT YOU'RE OPPOSING
LAWS OF THE GOVERNMENT SO I JUST
VERY WORRIED WE'RE GOING DOWN A
SLIPPERY SLOPE OF CONTROLLING.
WHAT LAWYERS CAN ARGUE I WANT
ZEALOUS ADVOCACY I WANT. OUR
CREATIVE ARGUMENTS BECAUSE
THAT'S HOW THAT'S HOW WE CHANGE
LAW IN THE UNITED STATES AND SO
I JUST HAVE CONCERNS IF YOU'RE
WILLING TO TAKE THAT OUT I
SUPPORT THIS BUT WITH THAT I
CAN'T SUPPORT. MR THANK YOU
MISTER HANEY. THANK YOU CENTER
FOR- FOR FREE WORK ON THIS AND-
CERTAINLY- AGREE WITH. A LOT OF
THAT THE PIECE OF THIS ARE ALL
OF IT- BUT I DID WANT TO ASK YOU
ABOUT. THAT THAT YOUR APPROACH
ON THE FEES QUESTIONS
SPECIFICALLY I KNOW THAT THAT
THE STATE BAR CERTAINLY FEELS
THAT. THEY ARE EXPERIENCING
FINANCIAL ARE BUDGETARY HEART
HARDSHIPS AND THERE'S BEEN
INFLATION AND THERE WAS A STATE
AUDITOR REPORT AND NOTED IN
THAT. ANALYSIS THAT IF THEY DID
THEY BELIEVE THAT THERE MAY BE
SOME REASON TO AT LEAST HAVE
SOME. MODEST INCREASE MAYBE NOT
AT THE LEVEL THAT- THE BARS
ASKING FOR. WONDER JUST BECAUSE
YOU AND I HAVE I HAVEN'T SPOKEN
ABOUT THIS. AND I WOULD LOVE TO
HEAR YOUR YOUR PERSPECTIVE IN
YOUR- THOUGHT PROCESS AND NOT
INCLUDING A FEE INCREASE OF ANY
KIND IN IN THIS- IN THIS
LEGISLATION. SO WHAT WHAT IS
INCLUDED IS THE ABILITY FOR THE
BAR TO USE THE FUNDS- THE
PROCEEDS OF THE SALE THE BAR
BUILDING IN SAN FRANCISCO TO
PROVIDE FOR OPERATIONS- IF NEXT
YEAR- IF. OF NEXT YEAR. IT
APPEARS THAT THERE'S A NEED FOR
A FEE INCREASE I'LL CERTAINLY
CONSIDER THAT UP THE TRADITION
IS THAT THE CHAIR OF THE
ASSEMBLY JUDICIARY COMMITTEE
CARRY THE BILL NEXT YEAR- BUT
FOR THIS YEAR. I BELIEVE THAT
THE BAR NEEDS TO- FOCUS ON
DISCIPLINE FOCUS ON SOME OF THE
OTHER MATTERS IN THE STATE AUDIT
REPORT. FOCUSED ON. MAKING SURE
THAT MONEY IS SPENT PRUDENTLY-
AND THAT. AS A CONSEQUENCE OF
THE SALE THE BUILDING THE THAT
THEY'LL HAVE ADDITIONAL PROCEEDS
TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE- BUT I'M I
PERSONALLY NOT. IN SUPPORT OF AN
INCREASE IN FEES THIS YEAR.
THANK YOU I APPRECIATE THAT JUST
WANTED TO HAVE THAT ON THE
RECORD AS WELL AND GET YOUR YOUR
THOUGHTS AND- AGAIN APPRECIATE
YOUR LEADERSHIP AND YOUR
THOUGHTFUL PROCESS WITH THIS
THANK YOU. MISTER CAR. THANK YOU
YOUR HONOR A PRIEST THE AUTHORS
WORK ON THAT SOME PREPARED TO
SUPPORT IT I DID HAVE A QUESTION
ON THE TREES AND PEAS SO.
PRIMARILY AROUND WHAT WOULD
CONSTITUTE KNOWLEDGE AND US TO
DO YOU NEED TO REPORT- I GET
WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THAT
WE'RE ALL AWARE OF THE LIGHTS.
CHINESE MAN RUDY GIULIANI LET'S
. SAY I'M A LAWYER AND
CALIFORNIA. I'M WATCHING- I SEE
THAT- DURING THEIR STAY. I
BELIEVE IT CONSTITUTES.
UNDERMINING MY OR TREES AND DO I
HAVE TO DO TO. SO IN TERMS OF
HYPOTHETICALS- IF YOU SEE A
REPORT ON MSNBC I SUPPOSE IF YOU
BELIEVE EVERYTHING ELSE ON MSNBC
EVERYTHING IS THE ABSOLUTE
TRUTH- AND IT'S A CALIFORNIA
LAWYER WHO IS ADVOCATING WHAT
YOU BELIEVE IS TREASON UNDER THE
FEDERAL DEFINITION. THEN YEAH
YOU WOULD HAVE A DUTY TO REPORT-
BUT- MY EXPECTATION MY
EXPECTATION IS THAT EVERY VIEWER
- NEED NOT ACCEPT EVERYTHING
THAT IS- PROMULGATED ON MSNBC OR
FOX OR ANY OTHER MEDIA OUTLET-
HOWEVER IF YOU FOR EXAMPLE ARE A
PARTNER WITH SOMEONE. WHO IS
ADVOCATING IN ESSENCE THE
OVERTHROW OF THE GOVERNMENT THEN
YEAH YOU WOULD HAVE A DUTY TO
REPORT SO. THIS IS A REPORT TO
THE STATE BAR THIS IS NOT AN
INDICTMENT- THIS SIMPLY TELLS
THE STATE BAR HEY YOU MAY WANT
TO LOOK AT THIS JUST LIKE IF
YOU. IT AS A CONSEQUENCE OF BOTH
THE STATE BAR'S RULE THE NEW
RULE BUT THE STATE BAR- IF YOU
ARE AWARE OF FOR EXAMPLE A
LAWYER WHO'S STEALING CLIENT
TRUST FUNDS YOU HAVE AN
OBLIGATION NOW YOU WOULD HAVE AN
OBLIGATION TO REPORT THAT YES.
THANK THANK YOU AND YOU CAN'T
USE A LITTLE BIT MORE WORK IN
TIGHTENING THAT UP SURE I'D BE
HAPPY TO- WHAT WHATEVER FURTHER
CLARIFICATION YOU LIKED FOR
PROVIDE A BE HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN
THAT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR MARK
MAKE I REALIZE I SKIPPED OVER
SUPPORT IN OPPOSITION SO- LET ME
AYE WE HAD OUR WITNESSES AND
SUPPORT ANY FURTHER WITNESS IT
WERE MAINLY THIS IS PART A FOR
THE WITNESSES IN SUPPORT. SCENE
NINE TO HAVE WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION. SAN NINE. ACTION I
GUESS I DIDN'T. I THINK THIS
ABOUT AFTER AMADEO. MS REYES
THAN THIS PROJECT. I UNDERSTAND
THAT FOR PURPOSES OF THIS THE
BILL. TO NOTE MEANS ACTUAL
KNOWLEDGE OF THE FACT IN
QUESTION. A LICENSES KNOWLEDGE
MAY BE INFERRED FROM THE
CIRCUMSTANCES- IS THAT. IS THAT
YOUR UNDERSTANDING THEM. WELL
ACTUAL KNOWLEDGE YES YES IT DOES
REQUIRE ACTUAL KNOWLEDGE SO. IF
YOU 1100% BELIEVE THAT
EVERYTHING THAT IS BROADCAST ON
TV PROVIDES ACTUAL KNOWLEDGE I
SUPPOSE THAT YOU MAY HAVE A-
RESPONSIBILITY. A DUTY TO REPORT
I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT IF YOU
HEARD SOMETHING ON M. S. N. B.
C. YOU DIDN'T REPORTED. THAT
THAT SOMEHOW WOULD SUBJECT YOU
TO DISCIPLINE. AND THE OTHER IS
THERE ARE STILL THE PROTECTION
OF ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE IF
YOU IF YOU ACQUIRE THIS
INFORMATION- IN INTERNET CLIENT
RELATIONSHIP THAT IS NOT
REQUIRED TO BE DISCLOSED IF YOUR
CLIENT TELLS YOU THAT THEY ARE
CURRENTLY CONSPIRING TO
OVERTHROW THE GOVERNMENT YOU'RE
NOT REQUIRED TO REPORT THAT
UNLESS UNLESS. THEY INDICATE
THAT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO USE
VIOLENT MEANS TO DO SO. THANK
YOU MISTER CHECK OUT. THANK YOU-
TO THE AUTHOR I ALSO HAVE I
SHARE THE SAME CONCERNS- AS MY
COLLEAGUE- ASSEMBLY MEMBER I
AND- MY CONCERN IS THAT IT THE
DEFINITION MIGHT BE OVERLY BROAD
SO I FEEL LIKE IT ALSO NEEDS TO
BE FINE TUNED A LITTLE BIT MORE-
AND SO THAT'S MY ONLY MY ONLY.
CONCERN IS SAME. SURE IN AT
AGAIN I'M I'M HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN
SUGGESTIONS BEYOND THE FEDERAL
CODE AS TO WHAT TREASONOUS. AND
MISS PATTON. IT IS THE BUILDING
SOLD ALREADY- THEY'RE IN THE
PROCESS IS WHAT I'M SORRY TO
BUILDING THE SERVICE IS GOOD-
ONCE IN PROCESS IT'S IN THE
PROCESS OF OKAY SO NO FEES THIS
YEAR. AS A MEMBER OF IRATE SORT
OF A NO INJURIES. KNOWING NOT
KNOWING RIGHT I MEAN I. RIGHT
RIGHT RIGHT. RIGHT OKAY C. NO
FURTHER QUESTIONS COMMENTS YOU
MAY CLOSE THANK YOU MISTER SHE
OF THIS IS A YOU SITUATION WHERE
TWO BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT HAVE
SOME RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE
STATE PARK PRIMARY
RESPONSIBILITY. RESTS WITH THE
SUPREME COURT THE SUPREME COURT
HAS THE PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY
FOR THE REGULATION THE
DISCIPLINE OF BAR MEMBERS OF
WHEAT- SHARE SOME OF THAT
OVERSIGHT RESPONSIBILITY MORE
AND MORE- THE SUPREME COURT ALSO
HAS THE ABILITY TO RAISE FEES
SHOULD DECIDE TO DO SO- BUT THIS
IS MY ATTEMPT OUR ATTEMPT TO.
PROVIDE FOR GREATER
ACCOUNTABILITY THE BAR AND WE
ARE FUNDING THE BAR AT THE SAME
LEVEL AS AS LAST YEAR ARJUN I
BOOKED. THANK YOU WE HAVE A
MOTION THE MOTION IS TO PASS AS
AMENDED ASK THE COURT TO PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL. YEAH MAIENSCHEIN
HI MAIENSCHEIN HAI SAB NO THE
SALIH NO CONNOLLY. CONNELLY I
DIXON. MAINI HANEY I KALRA. THE
CZECHO THE CHECKER I'D HAPPEN.
HAPPEN I REYES. REYES I CENTERS
. SANCHEZ NO MCCANN- CAN I ASK.
THE YOU'RE BILL IS OUR- BRIGHT
BEFORE YOU GO TO YOUR NEXT ITEM
CENTER BURKE AND LIKE TO CALL
AND SENATORS RUBIO- GONZALEZ
SMALLWOOD CUEVAS AND STERN- TO
PLEASE PROCEED OVER HERE- AND
WITHOUT. A CENTER YOU MAY
PROCEED ON YOUR THIRD ITEM WHICH
JUST BE SEVENTY ONE. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH MISTER CHAIR END UP.
YOUR STAFF BUT IN PARTICULAR
NICHOLAS LIE TO KEEP FOR THEIR
WORK IN YOUR WORK ON THIS BILL
THIS IS A VERY MODEST BILL IS A
VERY MODEST BILL IT SIMPLY
INCREASES SMALL CLAIMS-
JURISDICTION FROM TEN THOUSAND
DOLLARS TO TWELVE THOUSAND FIVE
HUNDRED DOLLARS IN. LIMITED
JURISDICTION CIVIL CASES FROM
TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS TO
THIRTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS
THESE- LEVELS WERE ESTABLISHED.
IN THE MID NINETEEN NINETIES- IT
PROVIDES FOR GREATER ACCESS TO
JUSTICE. MY ENTIRE LEGISLATIVE
CAREER I'VE SOUGHT TO FORM
COALITIONS A BROAD DIVERSE
COALITIONS AND I'VE DONE SO ON
THIS BILL. PRIMARILY IN
OPPOSITION OUR- BUT BUT
NEVERTHELESS I URGE A NO VOTE.
BUT MOTION FOR MISS PAP AND
SECOND FROM AS REYES WITNESSES
IN SUPPORT. SCENE NINE WITNESSES
IN OPPOSITION.
IN MY PROCEED AFTER MINUTES.
OKAY OR PART OF THE- I NEED
COALITION ON COMMITTEE CALDERON
BIRTH I'M GROWTH SHE PRISON
CONSUMER FOR AUTO WE LIVE AND
SEE. AND- WE'RE- WE'RE OPPOSE A
FEAST ONE WE APPRECIATE THE
IMPROVEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE
TO THE BILL BUT WE BELIEVE IT
WOULD STILL HARM VULNERABLE
CONSUMERS BOTH BY EXPANDING THE
JURISDICTION OF LIMITED CIVIL
COURTS WITHOUT ADDRESSING ANY
THEIR PROCEDURAL PROBLEMS. BY
MAKING IT RISKIER TO BRING CASES
AND I'M LIMITED CIVIL COURTS.
THE ANALYSIS STATES THAT LIMITED
JURISDICTION COURTS PROVIDE A
FORUM FOR RESOLVING MINOR CIVIL
DISPUTES WE TAKE ISSUE WITH THE
TERM MINOR- EVEN THOUGH
INFLATION IS MADE THE COST OF
GOODS AND SERVICES. INCREASED
DRAMATICALLY INCOMES HAVE
REMAINED RELATIVELY STAGNANT THE
MEDIA ANNUAL INCOME IN
CALIFORNIA IS ROUGHLY THIRTY
THREE THOUSAND. AND ACCORDING TO
THE FEDERAL RESERVE. 37%
AMERICANS LACK ENOUGH MONEY TO
COVER FORTY FOUR HUNDRED DOLLARS
EMERGENCY EXPENSE FOR MILLIONS
OF CALIFORNIANS ARE STRUGGLING
TO GET BY. AND THEY CAN'T AFFORD
TO LOSE TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND OR
THIRTY THOUSAND DOLLARS. IN
LIMITED CIVIL WHERE THE
PROCEDURES ARE STACKED AGAINST
THEM ACCORDING TO THE ANALYSIS
THE ONLY SUPPORTER OF S. B.
SEVENTY ONE IS THE TRADE
ASSOCIATION FOR THE DEBT
COLLECTORS. IF SB SEVENTY ONE
PASSES THE AMOUNT THEY CAN
EXTRACT FOR CONSUMERS WAY TO
INCREASE SIGNIFICANTLY AND RIGHT
NOW THE VAST MAJORITY OF
LITIGATION IN SMALL CLAIMS AND
LIMITED CIVIL COURTS IS BROUGHT
BY DEBT COLLECTORS AND OTHER
BUSINESS INTERESTS AGAINST
CONSUMERS. THE PROCEDURES ARE
STREAMLINED AND LACK BASIC
PROTECTIONS MAKE IT DIFFICULT
FOR CONSUMERS TO GET DISCOVERY
TO. DEFEND AND SHOW THAT THE
TRUTH OF THE MATTER AND WE AGREE
WITH THE LEGAL AID SOCIETY OF
SAN DIEGO WHICH ROAD IN
OPPOSITION TO SB SEVENTY ONE
PRIOR TO THE MOST RECENT
AMENDMENTS. LIMITING DISCOVERY
IN ANY OF A LARGER NUMBER OF
CASES WILL ADVERSELY AFFECT
CONSUMERS. IN A WRAP UP. OKAY I
IT WOULD ALSO HARM CONSUMERS
WITH HIGHER AMOUNTS AT STAKE BY
MAKING IT RISKIER THAT THEY MAY
NOT BE ABLE TO GET THEIR
ATTORNEYS FEES IF THEY ARE NOT
AWARDED OVER THIRTY FIVE
THOUSAND. AND WE RESPECTFULLY
ASK FOR YOUR NOTEBOOK THANK YOU
NEXT WITNESS. CHAIR MEMBERS OF
THE COMMITTEE HI MY NAME IS
MEGAN ARE VAGUE I LIVE IN
SACRAMENTO AND I'M HERE ON
BEHALF OF PUBLIC JUSTICE WHICH
IS A NATIONAL PUBLIC INTEREST
ADVOCACY ORGANIZATION- WE OPPOSE
SB SEVENTY ONE WE RESPECTFULLY
ASK FOR A NO VOTE BECAUSE IT
WILL HARM CONSUMERS. I'M NOT AN
ATTORNEY BUT I HAVE EXPERIENCE
AS A CONSUMER LITIGANT. WHEN I
WAS A STRUGGLING COLLEGE STUDENT
I WAS A NAMED PLAINTIFF IN A
CLASS ACTION THAT ADDRESS THE
OVERDRAFT ABUSES. BY CHASE BANK.
THE BANK WOULD ROUTINELY HOLD
SEVERAL DAYS OF DEBIT
TRANSACTIONS AND THEN MANIPULATE
THE TIMING OF THEM AND HIT
ACCOUNTS WITH THEM ALL AT ONCE
AND IN ORDER LARGEST TO
SMALLEST. THIS HAD THE EFFECT OF
DRAINING CONSUMERS ACCOUNTS
FASTER AND TRIGGERING MULTIPLE
OVERDRAFT FEES. IN LESS THAN A
YEAR I IT WHILE I WAS UNEMPLOYED
AND STRUGGLING THE MOST CHASE
TOOK OVER ELEVEN HUNDRED DOLLARS
IN OVERDRAFT FEES FROM MY
ACCOUNT. THIS DOLLAR AMOUNT IS
WELL WITHIN THE LIMITS OF. MINOR
CIVIL DISPUTES. BUT IT HAD A
PROFOUND EFFECT ON MY LIFE I
STRUGGLED TO PAY THE FEES BACK
AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE TO AVOID
BECOMING ON BANKED. THE
HIERARCHY OF EACH UNEMPLOYMENT
PAYMENT WAS A RENT BANK FEES AND
THEN EVERYTHING ELSE. TO THIS
DAY I STILL GET VERY ANXIOUS
WHEN I NEED TO LOG INTO ANY
FINANCIAL ACCOUNT. EVENTUALLY
AFTER WINNING IN THE APPELLATE
COURTS WE WON THE CLASS ACTION
CHASE HAD A RETURN OVER ONE
HUNDRED TEN MILLION DOLLARS TO
CONSUMERS. WE ALSO WON AN
INJUNCTION TO STOP SOME OF THE
MOST PREDATORY OVERDRAFT
PRACTICES THE BANKS HAVE
COMMITTED. HERE'S SOME WAYS THAT
A TRUNCATED STREAMLINED CIVIL
JUSTICE PROCESS WOULD HAVE
NEGATIVELY NEGATIVELY AFFECTED
OUR CASE. WITHOUT DISCOVERY
THERE WOULD BE NO WAY TO PROVE
THAT CHASES PRACTICES WERE
WIDESPREAD. I WOULD NOT HAVE
BEEN ABLE TO HAVE THE CASE HEARD
IN AN APPELLATE COURT AND
WITHOUT IN JUMPED OVER THIRTY
THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN NOTHING TO
STOP CHASE FROM. CONTINUING ITS
PREDATORY PRACTICES. DEPRIVING
FUTURE CUSTOMERS OF THAT
PARTICULAR BENEFIT. SO THE
DOLLAR AMOUNTS MIGHT SUGGEST
THAT THE DISPUTES ARE MINOR BUT
THE CONSEQUENCES ARE STILL
PRETTY MAJOR. AND AT THIS TIME I
THINK MORE CALIFORNIA CONSUMERS
NEED. AT AND DESERVE THE FULL
PROTECTION OF THE PROCESS NOT
LESS OF THEM SO WE ASK FOR NO
VOTE. THANK YOU. RIDLEY I AM
VERY PLEASED. WITH THE PREVIOUS
THE NICEST- RUBBISH CALIFORNIA
OF COMMERCE- WE ARE VERY SIMPLY
PUT. TO PUSH MUCH WORK ON THIS I
WOULD BE VERY CLEAR. WE HAVE
DIFFERENT CONCERNS I DO NOT WE
DO NOT BELIEVE LIMITED COURTS
AROUND WORKABLE TO NOT BELIEVE
THEY LACK THESE PROTECTIONS.
WE'RE ONLY SEEING AND AMENDMENTS
FOR SMALL DISCOVERY SUCH AS ONE
ADDITIONAL DEFINITION PASSING
THRESHOLD THANK YOU FIRST
WITNESS IRWIN THIS AND- FOR THE
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION. MICHAEL
CORNBREAD. CALIFORNIA COUNCIL OF
COUNTY LAW LIBRARIANS WE'RE NOT
OPPOSED TO THIS BILL BUT WE'RE
CONCERNED THAT IT HAS NOT YET
BEEN AMENDED. TO PROTECT ALL
COUNTY. LAW LIBRARY FROM A
REVENUE LOSS. THANK YOU. GOOD
MORNING JAMIE HAVE WITH SOLDIERS
IT'S ASSOCIATION OF CALIFORNIA
LETTING OUR COMMENTS WITHOUT A
CHAMBER THANK YOU. ROBERT HER
OVER THE CONSUMER FEDERATION
CALIFORNIA SHOCKINGLY ALIGNED
WITH C. JACK ON THIS ISSUE. WELL
THANK MISTER AMBERG SKI. IN A
COMBINING OPPOSITION TO A BILL-
OKAY TURN OVER IT QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS FROM COMMITTEE MR
SALIH. I FRANKLY I WITH ALL DUE
RESPECT TO MY FRIENDS. DO NOT
UNDERSTAND THIS OPPOSITION IT
MAKES NO SENSE TO ME. YOU GUYS
ARE ACTING LIKE LIMITED CIVIL
COURT IS SOMEHOW LESSER THAN
REAL COREY MEETS IT'S A JUDGE-
THERE'S LIMITED DISCOVERY BUT
YOU COULD ALWAYS GET. A WITH
GOOD BECAUSE YOU CAN GET MORE
DISCOVERY AND YOU CAN HAVE MORE
DEPOSITIONS. THE BIGGEST BARRIER
I AM A PRACTICING LAWYER KNOW
THE SENATORS TO THE BIGGEST
BARRIER PEOPLE HAVE TO CORD IS
ATTORNEY'S FEES FOR EXPENSIVE TO
HIRE AN ATTORNEY. SO BY HAVING A
MODEST INCREASE IN THESE LIMITS
IT'S JUST GOING TO HAVE MORE
ACCESS FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE ACCESS
TO THE COURT SYSTEM. SO I
SUPPORT THIS. I DON'T KNOW IF
YOU WANT ME AS A CO AUTHOR BUT
I'M HAPPY TO. BE A CO AUTHOR AND
I THINK IT'S GOOD FOR THE
PUBLIC- IT MAY NOT BE GOOD FOR
ANY SPECIAL INTERESTS BUT I
THINK IT'S GOOD FOR THE PUBLIC
TO HAVE MORE ACCESS TO COURT SO
I. STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS I'VE I
WELCOME YOU AS A CO AUTHOR OF
YOU DON'T THINK IT HURTS YOUR
REPUTATION. SO MISTER CAR. ONE
STAND IN THE WAY OF- NO I THINK
THE IS. GETTING INTO PLACE WITH
THEM. I JESS AYE AM REAR. TO THE
FACT THAT THERE ARE SOME CASES
IN THE SERVER WORLD. THEY'RE
SMALLER BUT STILL COMPLEX- MAYBE
SEEKING INJUNCTIVE RELIEF. THE
ISSUE HERE IS THE DISCOVERY
LIMITATION SO I AM VERY
INTERESTED IN HEARING AND I
THINK WE HEARD A LITTLE BIT-
FROM ONE OF THE OPPONENTS. ON
WHAT WOULD MAKE SENSE IS IT AN
ADDITIONAL DEPOSITION ISN'T SOME
TWEAKING AROUND THAT. SO I WOULD
I WAS JUST IS THAT SOMETHING
STILL UNDER CONSIDERATION IT
DOES SEEM LIMITED GIVE AND- WITH
THE INCREASE YOU ARE GOING TO
SEE. SOME MORE COMPLEX CASES.
BOB I'M HAPPY TO RESPOND. SO ARE
. CERTAINLY IS ASSEMBLY MEMBER
SILLY POINT OUT YOU CAN ALWAYS
GET AN ADDITIONAL DEPOSITION YOU
NEED TO GO TO COURT. HERE'S THE
REALITY THE SITUATION THE
REALITY THE SITUATION IS THAT.
INCREASINGLY IT'S NOT THE MERITS
THE DETERMINE THE OUTCOME OF
LITIGATION IT'S THE RESOURCES.
AND THOSE WITH MORE RESOURCES
CAN ABSOLUTELY BURY A SMALLER
ENTITY IN DISCOVERY COSTS AND SO
IF YOU FOR EXAMPLE ARE A SMALL
BUSINESS PERSON AND YOU'VE BEEN
- YOU YOU'VE ORDERED WIDGETS OF
THE WAGES DON'T SHOW UP. UP
YOU'RE DONE YOU CANNOT YOU
CANNOT ACCESS JUSTICE- IF YOU IF
YOU HAVE A DISPUTE- WITH A LARGE
ENTITY IF YOU'RE A CONSUMER AND
YOU'VE JUST BEEN RIPPED OFF BY
AN AIRLINES. LIKE WE WERE- YOU
YOU BASICALLY ARE DONE YOU HAVE
NO RECOURSE YOU HAVE NO RECOURSE
IN- YES IN UNLIMITED BECAUSE
THEY CAN SIMPLY BURY YOU IN
DISCOVERY IMMEDIATELY I'LL JUST
GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE FROM A CASE
THAT I HANDLED. JUST RECENTLY
WHERE IT WAS THERE WAS AND THERE
WERE NO MERITS THERE WERE NO
MERITS THAT WOULD- INDICATE THAT
THE- PLAINTIFF WOULD SUCCEED THE
PLAINTIFFS SIMPLY SAID WE'RE
GONNA DRAG YOU THROUGH QUOTE THE
DISCOVERIES LOG. UNTIL YOU GIVE
UP AFTER THREE YEARS OF
LITIGATION THE SETTLEMENT WAS A
WALK AWAY BUT THE PURPOSE WAS
SIMPLY TO DRIVE THEM OUT OF
BUSINESS. AND SO ON TO THE
EXAMPLE OF A CLASS ACTION THAT
IS TO BE FRANK. ABSURD A HUNDRED
AND TEN MILLION DOLLAR CLASS
ACTION WOULD NEVER FALL UNDER
LIMITED JURISDICTION WOULD NEVER
FALL UNDER LIMITED JURISDICTION
THAT I. MAYBE THERE'S BEEN A
CLASS ACTION IN THE LAST FIFTY
YEARS IN CALIFORNIA HAS BEEN
FILED LIMITED JURISDICTION COURT
I DOUBT IT BUT IF THERE HAS BEEN
I WOULD WELCOME THAT INFORMATION
SAY LIKE A LEMON LAW CASE WELL
LEMON LAW CASES IS DIFFERENT AND
CERTAINLY A LEMON LAW CASE YOU
CAN FILE AN UNLIMITED
JURISDICTION- AND YOU CAN FILE
IN LIMITED JURISDICTION- IF YOU
SO CHOOSE- I WOULD GUESS YOU'D
FALLEN UNLIMITED JURISDICTION SO
THAT THAT THE FEES COMBINED WITH
WHATEVER JUDGMENT. EXCEEDS THE
THIRTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS BUT
AS POINTED OUT THIS IS A MODEST
MODEST INCREASE OVER THE COURSE
OF THE LAST- TEEN YEARS AND IT
SIMPLY. IT SIMPLY PROVIDES
RELATIVELY SMALL RELIEF TO THOSE
WHO SEEK JUSTICE BUT CAN'T
AFFORD- BASICALLY TO FIGHT.
ANYBODY WITH GREATER RESOURCES.
SIX SEEN NO FURTHER QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS FROM THE COMMITTEE TO
EMOTION. I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR
MISTER SAILING- OUT TO HANNAH
OKAY SO WE- HAVE A MOTION SECOND
CENTER MARINA CLOSE. VERSION OF
IT THANK YOU THE MOTION IS TO
PASS THE APPROPRIATIONS
COMMITTEE ESCORT KALRA.
MAIENSCHEIN HI MAIENSCHEIN I
ASSEMBLY I SILLY I CALL. CON I
DIXON HANEY. HANEY I CALLED. THE
CHECKOUT. THE CHECKER I'D HAPPEN
. HAPPEN IRA. REYES I SENT. I
CAN- HI MCENERY YOUR BILL OUT
YOU VERY MUCH THANK YOU MEMBERS
ABOUT- WE'RE STILL ON. WHAT DO I
MOTION ON THE CONSENT TO. MOST
MOTION HAPPENED SECOND FOR
ISRAEL S. AS A COURT TO CALL THE
WRONG CONSENT OF CAN AGENDA IN.
SB TWO NINETY SIXTY S. B. THREE
OF ALLEN S. B. SIXTY EIGHT WELL
. ON CONSENT MAIN HI MAIENSCHEIN
S. AYE THE I CALL. FINALLY I
DIXON. HEY HANEY I KALRA. THE
CZECHO I THE CHECK OUT I'D
HAPPENED HAPPEN I. REYES AYE
CENSURE. SANCHEZ I ENCOUNTER.
BAKER CAN CONSENT AGENDA OUR MS
GUNS CENTER IS AWESOME YOU TO-
AT A SEA OF WHAT HERE WHICH ITEM
IS THE SENATE BINARY I WHICH ONE
THREE FIVE EIGHT SIX FOUR SIX
FOUR OKAY WE'LL START WITH
ANIMAL SIX FOUR WELCOME. THANK
YOU MISTER CHAIR AND MEMBER
FIRST I'D LIKE TO BE BY THAT FOR
THE HARD WORK AND ACCEPT THE CA
AND AMEND THANK YOU FOR MUCH OF
SO I'M HERE TO PRESENT AS SIX
SEVEN FOUR WHICH WILL RECAST
REFINERY FENCE LINE PROGRAM TO
CLOSE LOOPHOLES AND ENSURE THE
PROGRAM IS CONSISTENTLY
IMPLEMENTED. THE LEGISLATURE
MADE A PROMISE TO FENCE LINE
COMMUNITIES BACK IN TWENTY
SEVENTEEN WHEN IT PASSED A BEAT
SIXTEEN FORTY SEVEN THE REFINERY
POLLUTION FLOWING INTO
NEIGHBORHOODS WOULD BE
ADEQUATELY MONITORED AND THAT WE
WOULD RECEIVE THEY WOULD
RECEIVE. REAL TIME ALERTS WHEN
DANGEROUS LEVELS OF POLLUTION
WERE DETECTED HOWEVER THIS
DESPITE THIS EFFORT FENCING
COMMUNITIES ARE STILL IN THE
DARK ABOUT THE TOXINS AND TOXIC
CONTENTS EXCUSE ME IN THE AIR
THAT THEY BREATHE. I TO DATE
FENCE LINE COMMUNITIES IN THE
BAY AREA HAVE NEVER RECEIVED AN
ALERT ON THE EMISSION EXCEEDED
SAYS THAT HAVE OCCURRED IN THEIR
VICINITY- ON THANKSGIVING LAST
YEAR RESIDENTS OF CONTRA COSTA
COUNTY WOKE TO FIND. WHITE
POWDER BLANKETING THEIR
NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN THE REFINERY.
FINALLY NOTIFY THE COMMUNITY
OVER THREE DAYS LATER. THE
ASSURED EVERYONE THAT THE POWDER
WAS HARMLESS UNFORTUNATELY. WE
KNOW THAT THIS POWDER CONTAINED
CANCER CAUSING HEAVY. METAL
COMPOUNDS WHICH WAS UNFORTUNATE.
FAR TOO LONG COMMUNITIES HAVE
BEEN OVERBURDENED BY REFINERY
AIR POLLUTION SB SIX SEVENTY
FOUR WILL ENSURE THAT THE
REFINERIES ARE MORE TRANSPARENT.
AND CONSISTENT. REQUIRING THAT
ALL NECESSARY POLLUTANTS ARE
MONITORED. AND FIND COVERAGE IS
COMPREHENSIVE. AND ADEQUATE REAL
TIME ALERTS ARE SENT AND ROOT
CAUSE ANALYSIS AND CORRECTIVE
ACTION IS TAKEN. TESTIFYING IN
SUPPORT TODAY I HAVE ERICA
MARTINEZ. WITH EARTH JUSTICE AND
JOHN VICTOR AND DOZENS AND
DUNSON WE- SAY THAT. INCORRECTLY
WITH EAST YARD COMMUNITIES FOR
ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR NAY ABOUT
THANK YOU FIRST. WITH THIS PLACE
. THEY YOU AT THE MORNING SHERRY
MEMBERS OF COMMITTEE MY NAME IS
ERICA. WITH EARTH. WHICH IS THE
COAST. OF S. SIX. FOUR SIX
SEVENTY FOUR MAKES NECESSARY
CHANGES TO ENSURE BETTER
COMPLIANCE WITH THE CORE PILLARS
OF THE FENCE LINE MONITORING
LAW. THE PILLARS ARE PUBLIC
HEALTH DATA COLLECTION
MONITORING AND ACCOUNTABILITY.
WELL AIR DISTRICTS AND
REFINERIES ARE INDEED DIFFERENT
THROUGHOUT THE STATE THE REMAIN
IMPORTANT COMMONALITIES THAT ARE
CENTRAL TO THE SUCCESSFUL
IMPLEMENTATION OF THE LAW. I
WILL HIGHLIGHT TWO EXAMPLES. IT
IS CRITICAL THAT FENCE LINE
PROGRAMS MONITOR FOR THE MOST
HARMFUL TOXIC POLLUTANTS. THE
BILL IDENTIFIES EIGHTEEN
POLLUTANTS THE PROGRAM SHOULD BE
TRACKING BASED ON A TWENTY
NINETEEN ANALYSIS OF REFINERY
CHEMICAL EMISSIONS AND HEALTH
EFFECTS. HOWEVER THE BILL ALSO
PROVIDES A PROCESS FOR AN AIR
DISTRICT TO EXPLAIN WHY IT MIGHT
EXCLUDE ONE OF THOSE POLLUTANTS
AT THE LOCAL LEVEL. MOREOVER
CURRENT LAW REQUIRES AIR
DISTRICTS TO SET UP A
NOTIFICATION SYSTEM TO ALERT
COMMUNITIES WHEN THERE IS AN
EXPEDIENCE AT A REFINERY. WE
UNDERSTAND ADDITIONAL STATUTORY
GUIDANCE WOULD BE HELPFUL TO AIR
DISTRICTS AS THEY DESIGN THEIR
NOTIFICATION PROCESS SEES. THE
BILL PROVIDES TWO THRESHOLD
OPTIONS THAT IN AIR DISTRICT CAN
USE AND THE DESIGN AND EXECUTION
OF THIS REQUIREMENT. IN ADDITION
SB SIX SEVENTY FOUR AT LEVERAGES
THE VERACITY OF THE DATA
COLLECTION WITH ADDITIONAL
AUDITING AND MAKING THE DATA
MORE ACCESSIBLE. LASTLY WE
CONTINUE IN DISCUSSIONS WITH
STAKEHOLDERS INCLUDING THE
OPPOSITION ABOUT RECASTING SOME
DEFINITIONS IN THE BILL
INCLUDING QUESTIONS WERE AROUND
AUXILIARY FACILITIES AND
REFINING PROCESS SEEKS. WE URGE
YOUR SUPPORT OF THIS BILL AND WE
WANT TO THANK THE SENATOR FOR
AUTHORING THE SPELL THANK YOU.
THANK YOU NEXT WITNESS PLACE
AND- GOOD MORNING MY NAME IS
JOHN VICTOR AND DAWSON I AM A
STOP IN NUMBER AT EAST YARD
COMMUNITIES RUN BY MENTAL
JUSTICE WHERE WE ORGANIZE
RESIDENTS IN THE LONG BEACH
SOUTH BAY SOUTHEASTERLY AND
EASTERLY COMMUNITY. TO ADDRESS
INDUSTRIAL POLLUTION AFFECTING
PREDOMINANTLY BLACK AND BROWN
NEIGHBORHOODS NOT ONLY DO THEY
CURRENTLY ORGANIZING WHAT
DIRECTLY WITH THE RESIDENTS
ADJACENT TO REFINERY OPERATIONS
BUT I ALSO GREW UP NEXT TO THE
NOW MARATHON FACILITY. GROWING
UP I THOUGHT THESE FACILITIES
WERE NORMAL AND HAVING
RESPIRATORY ISSUES LIKE ASTHMA
WERE NORMAL. MY BROTHER WAS BORN
A YEAR AFTER I IMMIGRATED TO THE
U. S. AND HE WAS GOING TO COME
OUT OF THE WILL BE. NEEDING TO
USE A NEBULIZER TO BE ABLE TO
BREED MY FAMILY STORIES ONE OF
MANY TO STILL HAPPEN TODAY
TWENTY SIX YEARS LATER. OF
LIVING IN THIS REGION EVERY DAY
MANY RESIDENTS A G. SENSOR
REFINERY PRODUCTION HAVE TO
DECIDE WHAT THE DAY WILL LOOK
LIKE. THE APP YOU'LL HAVE YOUR
TO READ CAN IT BE ONLY PRO CLOSE
UP SO INSTEAD OF WALKING THE
PARK I WILL GO TO AN INDOOR GYM.
EITHER QUESTIONS I GO THROUGH
EVERY DAY EVEN WHEN THINKING
ABOUT DOING SIMPLE ERRANDS. WE
URGE YOU TO SUPPORT THIS BILL
BECAUSE IT IS NOT REVOLUTIONARY
THROUGH THIS BILL WE ARE SIMPLY
FILL IN THE GAPS AND FENCE LINE
MONITORING THAT NEEDS TO OCCUR
AT ALL REFINING FACILITIES IN
THE STATE. THIS WILL ALSO FILL
GAPS OF MONITORING WHAT SITES
THAT ALREADY HAVE AIR MONITORING
THIS WILL ALLOW LOCAL RESIDENTS
LIKE THOSE IN L. B. CARSON. IF
EASILY IN CENTRAL. UP A DOWN TO
STAY. TO BE EQUIPPED TO MAKE BAD
JUST. IN THEIR LIFE. THE BILL
WILL ALSO A- YOU SEE. MAKERS TO
HAVE THE DATA. TO MORE IN. PA
MAKING ON HOW TO. THESE REFINED
FACILITY. OUR STORIES ARE. TOLD
WHAT IS THE DEAL. LIKE HOW MANY
DAYS A DISMISSAL PATEL. EMIT
WHAT WE'RE- EXPOSED. THIS BILL
IS ABOUT CHANCE. SORT IN. OVER
TIME WILL BE CALLED. AND PAIRED
WITH OUR COMMUNITY NARRATIVE.
WILL HIGHLIGHT WHAT TRULY WE ARE
EXPERIENCING AND WHAT SOLUTION
WE CAN CREATE TOGETHER. AGAIN A
ARE YOU TO SUPPORT THIS BILL AND
FOUND ALONGSIDE REFINERY
COMMUNITIES THANK YOU THANK YOU
WITNESSES AND SUPPORT NAME AN
ORGANIZATION ONLY. THE BILL OUR
CREDIT WITH THE HEALTH OFFICERS
ASSOCIATION OF CALIFORNIANS
SUPPORT. KIKI VELAS WITH THE
NATURAL RESOURCES DEFENSE
COUNCIL IN SUPPORT THANKS. THANK
YOU CHAIR MEMBERS MY NAME IS NO
WHITLEY SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF
THE BREAST CANCER PREVENTION
PARTNERS IN QUEENS HE'S LOBBYING
COALITION IN SUPPORT. FORTY MY
BOTH OF A WITH CALIFORNIA
ENVIRONMENTAL VOTERS IN SUPPORT
. C. ST HUME CLEANERS FOR KIDS
STRONG SUPPORT. GOOD MORNING MR
MEMBERS ROSSBACH ABOUT THE SOUTH
COAST AIR QUALITY MANAGEMENT
DISTRICT WERE SUPPORT AMENDED
BUT PRITCHETT CONVERSATIONS.
THANK YOU SEEN NO FURTHER
WITNESSES. IN SUPPORT. SORRY AIR
ERICA MARTINEZ M. SACRAMENTO
AREA CONGREGATIONS TOGETHER IN
SUPPORT THANK YOU- JASPER
LYSANDER ON. IN SUPPORT I WAS
BORN AND RAISED IN- OF WORLD
AWAY AND I SAW THE CHEMICAL
DEGRADATION THANK YOU. WITNESSES
IN OPPOSITION. GOOD MORNING MR
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS SECRETARY ON
BEHALF OF THE WESTERN STATES
PETROLEUM ASSOCIATION WE REMAIN
OPPOSED UNLESS AMENDED. ON SB
SIX SEVENTY FOUR REALLY
APPRECIATE THE WORK OF THE
COMMITTEE WE THINK IT'S A GOOD
STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION I
THINK THERE'S A COUPLE
OUTSTANDING CONCERNS STILL
RELATED TO THE BILL I THINK SOME
OF THEM WERE OUTLINED BY THE
SUPPORTERS- HAD GOOD STAKEHOLDER
CONVERSATIONS WITH THE AUTHOR
WITH THE SPONSORS WITH THE AIR
DISTRICTS. I THINK THE
OUTSTANDING CONCERNS ARE OUR
MAJOR- RELATING TO THE
DEFINITION OF AUXILIARY
FACILITIES AND OUR DEFINITION OF
REFINERIES WE THINK THOSE
SHOULD- INCLUDE EITHER
CONTINUOUS OR JASON- FACILITIES
THAT ARE UNDER COMMON OWNERSHIP-
AND THEN AS IT RELATES TO THE
AIR MONITORS THEMSELVES. THE
BILL STATES THAT IT NEEDS TO
COVER THE ENTIRE PERIMETER OF
THE REFINERY- UNLESS IT'S DEEMED
INFEASIBLE- WE THINK THAT THIS
DECISION SHOULD BE MADE AT THE
LOCAL LEVEL BASED ON SITE
SPECIFIC INFORMATION AND
GEOGRAPHIC LOCATION. EVERY
REFINERY IS DIFFERENT- AND WE
THINK IT SHOULD BE BASED ON THE
SAYS CITY AND NEED- AND SO FOR
THOSE REASONS WE REMAIN OPPOSED
UNLESS AMENDED. THANK YOU FOR
THE WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION.
NAME AN ORGANIZATION. LAWRENCE
GATE WITH THE CALIFORNIA
MANUFACTURING TECHNOLOGY SOCIUS
RESPECT WE OPPOSE THANK YOU.
MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS MIKE MATA
GOING TO BE HAVE TO CALIFORNIA
STATE BUILDING TRADES WE ARE
POST LET'S AMENDED IN VERY
ENCOURAGED BY THE CONVERSATIONS
WITH THE SENATOR THANK YOU. MAY
PROVIDE A BRIEF STATEMENT NOW.
IT GENESIS DENTAL BEHALF WORLD
ENERGY PRODUCERS OF RENEWABLE
FUELS IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA-
AND WE HAVE A POSITION OF OPPOSE
UNLESS AMENDED THANK YOU. THANK
YOU FOR ECONOMY WITH ERR
PRODUCTS WERE IN AN OPPOSE
UNLESS AMENDED POSITION BUT
APPRECIATE CONVERSATIONS THANK
YOU SEEN NO FURTHER WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS
OR MOTION FROM THE COMMITTEE.
MMHM AT AT MOTION FROM HIS
RESTAURANT A SECOND. SECOND FOR
MISTER CONNELLY MISTER CHECKUP.
HI AS I WANT TO THANK THE AUTHOR
FOR- WORKING WITH THE OPPOSITION
I KNOW AMENDMENTS HAVE BEEN
TAKEN TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE
CONCERNS THAT THE OPPOSITION HAS
HAD IS I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
I AND I'M CURIOUS TO SEE IF
THERE'S CONTENT THERE'S GOING TO
BE CONTINUED CONVERSATIONS TO-
FINE TUNE IT IT SEEMS LIKE
OBVIOUS AN OPPOSE UNLESS AMENDED
SO IT LOOKS LIKE- YOU BOTH SIDES
ARE WORKING TOGETHER- BUT I'M
CURIOUS TO SEE- IF YOU THINK
MORE CONVERSATIONS CAN BE HAD-
THANK YOU VERY MUCH- THROUGH THE
CHAIR. ASSEMBLY MEMBER
ABSOLUTELY WE'VE CONTINUED WE
ACTUALLY HAD A FULL PRONGED
MEETING NOT TOO LONG AGO WHERE
EVERY STAKEHOLDER WITHOUT THE
TABLE- DISCUSSING THE ISSUES OF
ACCELERATOR FACILITIES REFINING
AS THE OPPOSITION MENTIONED- AND
THEN MOVING FORWARD WE WILL
CONTINUE TO HAVE THOSE
CONVERSATIONS OF COURSE- BUT WE
WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE UPHOLD
THE INTEGRITY OF THE BILL WHICH
IS. AT AT THE UTMOST TO ENSURE
THAT PEOPLES- AIR QUALITY GETS
BETTER THAT THEIR HEALTH
OUTCOMES YOU KNOW IMPROVE FOR
LIVING NEXT TO REFINERY SO
THAT'S THE UP MOST INTENTION OF
THE BILL. THANK YOU AND I WILL
BE SUPPORTING THE BILL- TODAY-
BUT OF COURSE I'M LOOKING
FORWARD TO CONTINUED COMP THAT
CONTINUED CONVERSATIONS. C. SEEN
NO FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS
FROM THE COMMITTEE SENATE SAUCE
ME CLOSE I WANT TO THANK.
EVERYBODY FOR COMING FORD
ESPECIALLY THAT THE SPONSORS AND
WILL CONTINUE TO WORK ON THIS IS
MENTIONED- AND I WOULD JUST
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR NIGEL THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU- THE
MOTION IS TO PASS AS AMENDED TO
THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE
ACEKARD TO PLEASE CALL THE ROLL
. MAIENSCHEIN I MEAN I AS A WEEK
NO. THIS NO. CONNELLY IDEX.
MAINI AMY I CALL. ALL RIGHT THE
CZECHO. THE CZECHO I HAPPEN.
HAPPENED I. REYES I SEE. SANCHEZ
NO MCKENNA. MCKENNA YOUR BILL
OUT HERE AND YOU'LL SAVE.
SENATORS STILL BE- ITEM S. B.
FOR A SEVEN I'M OF- PRESENCE IN
A PRESS PRO TEM ATKINS. PLEASE
PROCEED. EIGHT YOU MISTER
CHAIRMAN AGAIN I PER AT FOUR
EIGHTY SO ON BEHALF OF OUR
CENTER PRO TEM. A TODAY THIS
BILL IS NOW TO PROVIDE. WHO
PROVIDE A BOARD AND JEFF GEN
AFFIRMING CARE TO PEOPLE FROM
OUT OF STATE FROM ADDITIONAL
SANCTIONS THE AFTERMATH
UNFORTUNATELY OF THE DOBBS
DECISION OVERRULING BROKE NOT
ONLY ELIMINATED FIFTY YEARS OF
REPRODUCTIVE FREEDOM BUT ALSO
ENCOURAGE STATES TO ENACT THEIR
OWN BANS AND RESTRICTIONS WITH
MANY PASSING LAWS TO TARGET
PROVIDERS. WILL MANY OF THE
STATE'S WITH ABORTION BENSOUDA
DO YOU HAVE LIMITED EXCEPTIONS
PROVIDERS ARE BECOMING
INCREASINGLY WARY AND
DISCOURAGED FROM ENTERING THE
REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH FIELD WHICH
IS REALLY UNFORTUNATE THE
PURPOSE OF SB FOUR EIGHTY SEVEN
IS TO PROTECT CALIFORNIA'S
HEALTH CARE PROVIDERS. WHO ARE
WILLING TO TAKE RISKS BY
PROVIDING ABORTION CARE AND
GENDER AFFIRMING CARE AND OTHER
STATES FROM ADDITIONAL SANCTIONS
AS WELL AS PROVIDERS TO PROVIDE
THOSE SERVICES IN CALIFORNIA
FROM PEOPLE OUT OF STATE. SB
FORTY SEVEN IS NEARLY CRAFTED
AND IN NO WAY LIMITS OR
RESTRICTS ALL OR- ALL OR YOU OUR
USUAL CONSUMER PROTECTIONS OR
THE ABILITY OF THE MEDICAL
PROGRAM TO TERMINATE PROVIDERS
FOR OTHER NON. ABORTION HEALTH
CARE REASONS. TESTIFYING IN
SUPPORT TODAY I HAVE DR TANYA
SPIRITUS. A PRESIDENT. ELECT OF
THE CMA AND A PRACTICING OBGYN
AND MOLLY ROPES IN THE VICE
PRESIDENT OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS
PLANNED PARENTHOOD AFFILIATES OF
CALIFORNIA AND RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR NAY VOTE. THANK YOU FIRST
WITNESS. THANK YOU CHAIR
MAIENSCHEIN. AND THE MEMBERS OF
THIS COMMITTEE FOR ALLOWING ME
TO PRESENT TESTIMONY TODAY. MY
NAME IS DR TANYA SPIRITUS I'M A
BOARD CERTIFIED OBSTETRICIAN
GYNECOLOGIST. PRACTICING AT
STANFORD HEALTH CARE. I'M HERE
TODAY REPRESENTING THE
CALIFORNIA MEDICAL ASSOCIATION
WHICH IS CO SPONSORING. SENATE
BILL FORTY SEVEN. SB FORTY SEVEN
EXPENSE PROTECTION AGAINST
ELECTIONS FROM ANOTHER STATE'S
LAW BEING APPLIED. TO
REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH CARE
CLINICIANS LICENSE IN
CALIFORNIA. IT ENSURES THAT
CALIFORNIA'S PROVIDERS CAN
CONTINUE TO CARE FOR PATIENTS.
WITHOUT THE FEAR OF ANOTHER
STATE'S LAWS INTERFERING WITH
THEIR ABILITY TO SERVE PEOPLE IN
CALIFORNIA WHETHER ON MEDICARE
OR PRIVATELY INSURED. AS A
PHYSICIAN WHO PROVIDES
REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH CARE
SERVICES I CAN SAY WITH
CERTAINTY THAT THE PROTECTIONS
SB FORTY SEVEN PROVIDES. ARE OF
UTMOST IMPORTANCE AS YOU ALL
KNOW WE HAVE RECENTLY SEEN
UNPRECEDENTED LEGISLATION.
ATTACKING REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS
AND GENDER AFFIRMING CARE
THROUGHOUT THE U. S. SINCE THE
DOGS DECISION WAS ISSUED TWENTY
STATES HAVE ENACTED TOTAL OR
SEVERE BANS. ON MOST ABORTION
SERVICES MAKING IT DIFFICULT IF
NOT IMPOSSIBLE FOR PEOPLE TO GET
HEALTH CARE IN THEIR OWN
COMMUNITIES. PATIENTS ARE FORCED
TO DELAY THEIR CARE TRAVEL
HUNDREDS OR THOUSANDS OF MILES.
FACE FINANCIAL DIFFICULTIES AND
TIME AWAY FROM WORK JUST UNDERGO
SIMPLE AND SAFE MEDICAL
PROCEDURES. MY PATIENTS COME TO
ME WITH THE NEED FOR SERVICE I
CAN EXPERTLY PROVIDE. I WILL
NEVER INTERROGATE MY PATIENTS
ABOUT THEIR STATE OF ORIGIN AND
I KNOW MY COLLEAGUES TREAT THEIR
PATIENTS WITH THE SAME RESPECT.
OUT OF STATE LEGISLATION THAT
THREATENS OUR LICENSE TO
PRACTICE IN CREDENTIALING IS
PROVIDERS PUTS CALIFORNIA
PRACTITIONERS AT RISK. ABORTION
KAREN GENDER AFFIRMING CARE ARE
ESSENTIAL HEALTH CARE SERVICES.
CALIFORNIA HAS ALREADY DONE SO
MUCH TO BE A SAFE HAVEN. AND
DESTINATION STATE. FOR
PROTECTING REPRODUCTIVE FREEDOM
SB FORTY SEVEN BUILT UPON THE
STATE'S ACHIEVEMENTS BY
EXPANDING THE PROTECTIONS FOR
ITS ABORTION AND GENDER
AFFIRMING CARE PROVIDERS. TO
ACTIONS. PLEASE ALLOW MY
COLLEAGUES TONIGHT THE PEACE OF
MIND TO FOCUS ON THE PATIENT
SITTING IN FRONT OF US EVERY DAY
AND TO PROVIDE THEM WITH THE
QUALITY HEALTHCARE THEY DESERVE.
HELP US PROTECT ACCESS TO HEALTH
CARE ACCESS TO ABORTION CARE IN
CALIFORNIA. BY VOTING YES ON
SENATE BILL FORTY SEVEN THANK
YOU NEXT WITNESS PLACE. THANK
YOU MY RIBS WITH PLANNED
PARENTHOOD AFFILIATES OF
CALIFORNIA I REALLY JUST ECHOING
THE COMMENTS FROM DR SPIRIT HAS
SB FORTY SEVEN BUILDS ON THE-
PROGRESS WE MADE LAST YEAR. TO
ENSURE THAT HEALTH CARE
PROVIDERS IN OUR STATE CAN
PROVIDE COMPASSIONATE AND
COMPREHENSIVE CARE FREE OF THE
FEAR THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE A
PENALIZED BASED ON ANOTHER
STATES HOSTILE LAWS.
RESPECTFULLY URGES PART ON THE
B. FORTY SEVEN THANK THEIR
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT NAME AN
ORGANIZATION ONLY. CAN I
REGISTER SUPPORT ON BEHALF OF
THE AMERICAN COLLEGE OF OBGYN IS
ALSO A CO SPONSOR THINK YOU. HI
KAREN STUD ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA'S ASSOCIATION AS WELL
AS NAY REPORTERS CALIFORNIA
INSTRUCTS. BRAND SEPTEMBER
BRANDS HAPPEN TO HAVE HIM IN ANY
ROLE IN SUPPORT THANK YOU.
MISTER CHAIRMAN BIRDS MONICA
MILLER BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
ASSOCIATION OF NURSE
ANESTHETISTS CANNOT IN SUPPORT
THANK YOU. TIFFANY MATTHEWS ON
BEHALF OF ATTORNEY GENERAL ROB
BONTA IN SUPPORT THANK YOU.
YOUNG AGE UNTIL AND BEHALF OF
THE TO THE GOVERNOR LNE CANNELLA
IS IN SUPPORT THANK YOU.
CHRISTODOULOS COUNTY HAVE THE
CALIFORNIA STATE ASSOCIATION OF
PSYCHIATRISTS IN SUPPORT. CHEN
IS COMING IN FROM THE UNIVERSITY
OF CALIFORNIA IN SUPPORT. SEEN
FURTHER WITNESSES AND SPORT
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION. SCENE
NINE QUESTIONS COMES FROM CAN
HEAR MOTION MISTER KALRA. THE
BILL. THANK YOU SO. PRINCIPAL OF
THEM YEAH. WE MOTION FOR MISTER
CAR SECOND FROM REYES CONNELLY
ALSO TO BE A AS A AUTHOR. THANK
YOU. MISTER SAID I JUST QUICK
FIRST OFF I'D- THE PREMISE THAT
DOCTOR. PERFORMING ABORTION
SERVICES IN CALIFORNIA ARE
SOMEHOW GOING TO BE CHARGED
CRIMES OTHER STATE. IT'S NOT A
CREDIBLE ARGUMENT THAT DOESN'T
HAPPEN BUT WITH THE BILL SEEKS
TO DO MY UNDERSTANDING IS YOU
WANT TO SHIELD DOCTORS WHO
VIOLATED THE LAW IN OTHER STATES
FROM. FROM- BEING ABLE TO-
CONTINUE PRACTICING IN
CALIFORNIA WHEN THERE ARE
CONSEQUENCES FOR DOING THAT SO I
HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT UNDERMINING
THE RULE OF LAW. IN OTHER STATES
AND WHY SHOULD WE BE PROTECTING
PEOPLE VIOLATE THE LAW IN OTHER
STATES IF DOCTORS GOING TO
VIOLATE THE LAW THERE. THAT IS A
CONCERN TO ME AND I'LL JUST
STATE- IF YOU WANNA RESPOND
THAT'S FINE I DON'T CONSIDER
ABORTING A BABY IN THE THIRD
TRIMESTER TO BE HEALTH CARE
UNLESS THERE'S A MEDICAL NEED
FOR THE MOM. THAT'S BARBARIC
IT'S NOT HEALTH CARE SO THERE
SHOULD BE REASONABLE
RESTRICTIONS SO YOU WANNA
RESPOND ANY THAT'S FINE BUT I
JUST I REJECT THE PREMISE OF THE
BILL. RESPOND TO THE FIRST PART
IS A PHYSICIAN OR PHYSICIANS IN
CALIFORNIA WHO HAVE DUAL
LICENSURE OR MORE THERE'S A
CONTACTED STATE. MEDICAL BOARDS
WHICH ALLOWS PHYSICIANS TO
PRACTICE IN MULTIPLE DIFFERENT
STATES IF I WERE TO SPEND SIX
MONTHS A YEAR IN CALIFORNIA SIX
MONTHS HERE IN UTAH. IT IS A
POSSIBILITY THAT WHEN I PROVIDE
CARE IN UTAH. THAT ANY ACTION
THEY TAKE AGAINST ME FOR HAVING
PROVIDED GENDER AFFIRMING CARE
COULD BE REPORTED THE CALIFORNIA
STATE MEDICAL BOARD. WHEN
MEDICARE AL FOR EXAMPLE HERE'S
THAT THERE'S AN ACTION AGAINST
BEEN ANOTHER STATE THEY WOULD
AUTOMATICALLY THROW ME OFF THE
MEDICARE PROVIDER. ROLES AND
THAT THEREFORE WOULD IMPACT MY
ABILITY TO PRACTICE IN
CALIFORNIA. FOR THE NEXT SIX
MONTHS THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO
WITH MALPRACTICE. THE SIMPLY HAS
TO DO WITH THE PROVISION OF CARE
THAT IS LEGAL IN CALIFORNIA. I
WOULD NOT BE PERFORMING LEGAL
SERVICES IN UTAH. BUT JUST IN
CASE. A PATIENT WHO. CAME TO SEE
ME FROM UTAH HERE IN CALIFORNIA
GOES BACK TO UTAH. I'M BACK IN
THE STATE OF UTAH. THEY THEN
SEIZE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO FILE A
CASE AGAINST ME BECAUSE I HAPPEN
TO. SUDDENLY BE PRACTICING EVEN
THOUGH I DIDN'T CARE FOR THAT
PATIENT IN UTAH YOU CAN SEE THIS
IS A VERY COMPLICATED THING
WE'RE NOT TO PROTECT TRYING TO
PROTECT HIS ACTIONS WERE DOING
ANYTHING. IN ILLEGAL WE'RE
SIMPLY TRYING TO PROTECT OUR
PHYSICIANS. FROM UNNECESSARILY
HAVING TO FIGHT WITH THE MEDICAL
SYSTEM TO MAINTAIN OUR
CREDENTIALING IN CALIFORNIA. IN
TERMS OF THIRD. TRIMESTER
ABORTIONS. THAT IS NOT PART OF
OUR DISCUSSION TODAY AND IS-
RATHER SIMPLISTIC SO I WILL NOT
DEIGN. TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION
HERE. S. SEEN NO FURTHER
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE
CAN COMMITTEE WE HAVE A MOTION
FOR MISTER KALRA. A SECOND FROM
MS REYES SENATE IS AWESOME MAKE
CLOTHES I JUST WANNA ST BEHALF
OF- ARE SENATE PRO TEM ATKINS WE
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN AYE VOTE
WE DEFINITELY KNOW THAT ABORTION
IS- REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH CARE SO.
WITHOUT RESPECT LAST FRIDAY
THANK YOU THE MOTIONS TO PASS
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE ASKED
THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL.
MAIENSCHEIN I MAIENSCHEIN I. S.
SALIH NO SALIH NO CONNOLLY.
CONNELLY I SIX. DIXON ANY. KALRA
I KALRA I PROJECT. CHECK OUT I'D
- HAPPEN AYE REYES. AYE REYES
AYE SANCHEZ. SANCHEZ NO MECHANIC
. YOUR BILL IS OUT THANK YOU SO
SMALL YOUR- UP. I AM NOT TEN S.
B. C. TWO SEVEN. AND I DOUBT
SENATORS. AND STERN TIP. PROCEED
COMMITTEE. WELCOME MAYBE WITH
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR THANK YOU
. MEMBERS I'D LIKE TO START BY
THANKING THE COMMITTEE FOR ALL
OF YOUR HARD WORK WITH MY TEAM
AND- DRAFTING THESE CLARIFYING
AMENDMENTS AND WE ARE HAPPY TO
ACCEPT THEM- I AM PLEASED TO
PRESENT SB SIX TO SEVEN THE
DISPLACED WORKER TRANSFER ACTS
RIGHTS ACT. WHICH WILL REQUIRE
LARGE CHAIN EMPLOYERS WITH A
HUNDRED STORES ARE MORE TO GIVE
SIXTY DAYS ADVANCE NOTICE TO
WORKERS OF THE STORE THAT IS
CLOSING. IT WOULD ADDITIONALLY
GRANT WORKERS DISPLACED BY THESE
CLOSURES ARE RIGHT TO TRANSFER
TO AVAILABLE TRAIN STORES WITHIN
TWENTY FIVE MILES OF THE CLOSE
LOCATION. STORE CLOSURES CAN
HAVE A DEVASTATING EFFECT ON
WORKERS FINANCIAL SECURITY AND
DESTABILIZING IMPACT ON OUR
NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WE CALL HOME
AS MANY OF THESE CLOSURES
DISPROPORTIONATELY HAPPEN IN LOW
INCOME COMMUNITIES OF COLOR.
COMPOUNDING THE ECONOMIC AND JOB
CRISES THAT SO MANY OF THESE
RESIDENTS ALREADY FACE.
FURTHERMORE THE WORKERS WHO ARE
FACED WITH JOB LOSS AND NEED TO
COLLECT UNEMPLOYMENT. OR
UTILIZED OTHER SERVICES FOR
FINANCIAL HELP- BECAUSE OF THE
ECONOMIC AND SECURITY THESE
STORE CLOSURES IN THE END WILL
COST TAXPAYER DOLLARS BECAUSE
WHEN WORKERS HAVE NO EMPLOYMENT
THEY WILL NEED TO RELY ON THE
STATE. FOR SUPPORT- TO MAKE ENDS
MEET AND TO WEATHER THE
FINANCIAL STORM. SB SIX TO SEVEN
WILL HELP ENSURE WORKERS LIVES
ARE NOT COMPLETELY UP ENDED WHEN
THEY LOSE THEIR JOBS DUE TO
STORE CLOSURES BECAUSE THEY WILL
HAVE A SAFETY NET THAT WILL
AFFORD THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO
CONTINUE TO WORK AND TO CONTINUE
TO PROVIDE FOR THEMSELVES AND
THEIR FAMILIES. AND SUSTAIN OUR
COMMUNITIES WITH ME TODAY TO
TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OF THIS BILL
IS THERE A FLOCK OF THE
CALIFORNIA LABOR FEDERATION THE
BILL'S SPONSOR. MISTER SPEX
MISTER CHAIR MEMBER SERAPH LOCKS
CALIFORNIA LABOR FEDERATION-
ACCORDING TO BUSINESS INSIDER
MORE THAN TWENTY TWO HUNDRED
CHAIN STORES ARE GOING TO BE
CLOSING A **** ACROSS THE
COUNTRY IN TWENTY TWENTY THREE
ALONE. THAT MEANS THOUSANDS AND
THOUSANDS OF WORKERS ARE GOING
TO BE LAID OFF AND LEFT WITHOUT
A PAYCHECK AND A WAY TO MAKE
THEIR INCOME. THIS BILL IS VERY
SIMPLE IT ALLOWS WORKERS OUT OF
STORE THAT HAS BEEN CLOSED AT A
CHAIN THAT'S OVER A HUNDRED
LOCATIONS TO TRANSFER WHEN
THERE'S AN OPENING AT A STORE IN
A SIMILAR POSITION WHERE THEY'VE
ALREADY BEEN TRAINED. THIS BILL
IS BASED ON EXISTING LAW THE
HOSPITALITY REHIRE ACT- WHICH
HELP THE HOSPITALITY INDUSTRY
BOUNCE BACK FROM THE COBIT
PANDEMIC AND IT IS ALSO IN THE
MODEL OF THE PAYCHECK PROTECTION
PROGRAM WHICH- SHOWED THAT
KEEPING WORKERS CONNECTED TO
THEIR JOBS DURING ECONOMIC
DOWNTURNS OR LAYOFFS. MAKES GOOD
ECONOMIC SENSE BEYOND PROTECTS
WORKERS AND THEIR FAMILIES AND
SO WE ARE DRIVE OUT. THANK YOU
WHEN HAVE FOR THE WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT. GOOD MORNING JAMES
MICHAEL POLLOCK WOULD ASK ME
CALIFORNIANS SUPPORT. GOOD
MORNING SAMANTHA GORDON WITH
TECH EQUITY COLLABORATIVE IN
SUPPORT THANK YOU. THREE CLEAR
SHE HARM BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA PLUMMET LAWYERS
ASSOCIATION AND THE CALIFORNIA
COALITION FOR WORKER POWER IN
SUPPORT. KRISTATOS HERE WE HAVE
THE CALIFORNIA FACULTY
ASSOCIATION SUPPORT. C. ST HUME
CLEANER FOR KIDS SUPPORT. LARA
LOPEZ A POLICY FOLLOWED WESTERN
CENTER ON LAW AND POVERTY HERE
IN SUPPORT OF SB SIXTY SEVEN.
THANK YOU- ANY FURTHER WITNESSES
AND SUPPORT SEEN NINE WITNESSES
IN OPPOSITION.
FIRST WITNESS. GOOD MORNING I
THINK WORST MOURNING MOURNING MR
MEMBERS GENTS ON BEHALF CHAMBER
OF COMMERCE RESPECTFULLY IN
OPPOSITION- AS A JOB KILLER BILL
WE BELIEVE THIS RIGHT TO RECALL
POLICY WHICH STARTED AS A COVERT
RELATED REQUIREMENT FOR THE
HOSPITALITY INDUSTRY
MICROMANAGES THE HEIGHT REHIRE
PROCESS FOR AFFECTED BUSINESSES
AND CREATES A PROBLEMATIC
PERMANENT STATUTORY SCHEME THAT
ELIMINATES AT WILL EMPLOYMENT.
AND MANDATES HIRING BASED ON
SENIORITY ALONE THE BILL BRADLEY
IMPACTS CHAINS WHICH COULD
INCLUDE A MULTITUDE OF
BUSINESSES AND INDUSTRIES
INCLUDING RETAIL RESTAURANTS
GROCERY STORES HOTELS HOSPITALS
AND HEALTHCARE FACILITIES MOVIE
THEATERS AND MORE THAT BROAD
NATURE OF THIS BILL CONTAINS
ISSUES THAT IN TWENTY TWENTY
BECAUSE GOVERNOR NEWSOM TO VETO
AB THIRTY TWO SIXTEEN THE RIGHT
TO RECALL BILL FOR THE
HOSPITALITY INDUSTRY. AFTER THE
VETO THE LEGISLATURE AND
GOVERNOR CAME TO AN AGREEMENT
AND TWENTY TWENTY ONE TO
INSTITUTE AND NARAL LAW
SPECIFICALLY HARPER HOSPITALITY
WORKERS WHICH HAD A SUNSET AND
WAS SPECIFICALLY TIED TO THE
CODE NINETEEN PANDEMIC. THAT MAY
HAVE BEEN APPROPRIATE AT THAT
TIME GIVEN THE WIDESPREAD
CLOSURES RELATED TO KOBE BUT IS
NO LONGER APPROPRIATE OR NEEDED
TODAY. IN THE PASSAGE OF THE
POLICY IN TWENTY TWENTY ONE THE
REQUIREMENTS HAVE SLOWED DOWN
THE HIRING PROCESS SIGNIFICANTLY
IN THE HOSPITALITY INDUSTRY AND
WE BELIEVE IT WILL DO SO IN
INDUSTRIES IMPACTED BY THIS BILL
ALSO. I WOULD ALSO NOTE THE
PENALTIES FOR EMPLOYERS WHO HAVE
INADVERTENTLY RUN AFOUL OF THIS
COMPLIANCE HEAVY LAW ARE ALSO
VERY HIGH. WITH ALL THE ISSUES
WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS
POLICY IN THE HOSPITALITY
INDUSTRY WE BELIEVE THIS POLICY
SHOULD STAY AS A PANDEMIC BASED
POLICY AND NOT EXPAND INTO NEW
INDUSTRIES THANK YOU. THANK YOU
NEXT WITNESS PLEASE GOOD MORNING
KATIE DAVEY WITH THE CALIFORNIA
RESTAURANT ASSOCIATION AND WE
ARE IN RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION TO
SB SIX TO SEVEN. SB SIXTY SEVEN
REQUIRE CERTAIN RESTAURANT
EMPLOYERS TO GIVE SPECIFIC
NOTICE TO EMPLOYEES SIXTY DAYS
PRIOR TO CLOSING A LOCATION
WHILE THAT MAY SOUND SIMPLE IN
REALITY THE IMPLEMENTATION OF A
SIXTY DAY NOTICE REQUIREMENT IS
VERY COMPLEX. THERE ARE NUMEROUS
FACTORS THAT ARE PART OF THE
EQUATION TO TURNED IT TO
DETERMINE IF AND WHEN IT IT
MAKES SENSE TO CLOSE A GIVEN
LOCATION. GIVEN THESE
COMPLEXITIES IN VARIABLES EVERY
DID SIXTY DAY NOTICE RULE WILL
LIKELY LEAD TO OVER NOTICING
EMPLOYEES WILL LIKELY RESULT IN
NOTICING EMPLOYEES. ABOUT A
POTENTIAL STORE CLOSURE WHEN IN
SOME CASES A STORM MAY NOT
ACTUALLY HAVE TO CLOSE IT OFF.
SB SIXTY SEVEN ALSO REQUIRES
EMPLOYERS TO OFFER JOBS TO
EMPLOYEES FROM CLOSED STORES AND
OTHER STORES WITHIN TWENTY FIVE
MILES OF THE CLOTHES STORE FOR
UP TO ONE YEAR. THE SAME
EMPLOYEES ALSO HAVE FIVE DAYS TO
ACCEPT OR DECLINE THE OFFER. WE
ARE CONCERNED THIS WILL HAVE THE
UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE OF
ACTUALLY SLOWING DOWN THE HIRING
PROCESS. AS IT WILL CERTAINLY
ADD. BE POSSIBLE FOR ONE
EMPLOYEE TO TAKE THE FULL FIVE
DAYS RESPOND TO A JOB OFFER AND
THEN DECLINED THE JOB FORCING
ANOTHER FIVE DAY WAITING PERIOD
FOR THE NEXT EMPLOYEE AND LINE.
ILLUSTRATING THE CHALLENGE OF
THIS WAITING DAY PERIOD. SB
SIXTY SEVEN DOES NOT PROVIDE
COVERED EMPLOYEES WITH AN AVENUE
TO REMOVE THEMSELVES FROM THE
LAST. RESTAURANT WOULD STILL BE
REQUIRED TO CONTACT COVERED
EMPLOYEES ON THE LIST AND OFFER
THEM A JOB EVEN WHEN THE COVERED
EMPLOYEE HAS MADE IT VERY CLEAR.
THEY'RE NOT INTERESTED IN BEING
CONTACTED AND HAVE TAKEN ANOTHER
OPPORTUNITY. WE ARE CONCERNED
THAT THIS REQUIREMENT WILL
IMPACT PROMOTIONAL OPPORTUNITIES
FOR CURRENT EMPLOYEES. IN THE
EVENT A POSITION IS OPEN IN A
STORE IT WOULD FIRST HAVE TO BE
OFFERED TO A COVERED EMPLOYEE.
AT FROM A DIFFERENT LOCATION
PRIOR TO AN EMPLOYEE BEING
PROMOTED. PRIOR EXPERIENCE WITH
THIS KIND OF PRESCRIPTIVE REHIRE
REQUIREMENT IN THE HOSPITALITY
INDUSTRY GIVES US GREAT CONCERN
ABOUT THE RESTRICTIVE NATURE OF
THIS PROPOSAL. FOR THESE AND
OTHER LOGISTICAL AND LEGAL
COMPLIANCE CONCERNS WE ARE
OPPOSED TO SB SIXTY SEVEN. THANK
YOU WAIT FOR THE WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT. EXCUSE ME OPPOSITION.
THANK YOU JULIE MULLIN ASK ABOUT
HALF THE CALIFORNIA HOTEL AND
LODGING ASSOCIATION IN
OPPOSITION. CEREBELLUM MAY WITH
CALIFORNIA RETAILERS ASSOCIATION
OPPOSED. LAWRENCE GATE WITH THE
CALIFORNIA MANUFACTURING
TECHNOLOGY SUCH AS RESPECT
REPOSE THANK YOU SEEN NO FURTHER
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION. MISS
PAP AND- I JUST DID HAVE A
QUESTION THAT YOU RAISED ABOUT
THE PROMOTIONAL AND WHAT HAPPENS
IF YOU'RE WORKING AT ONE SITE
IT'S YOUR TIME TO MOVE UP. BUT
YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE LIST TO
GET SOMEBODY THAT WAS MAYBE A
SUPERVISOR OF THE PREVIOUS
LOCATION. IS THEIR WAY OF
WORKING THAT ONE OUT I WOULD
FEEL BAD IF I WAS AN EMPLOYEE
READY TO MOVE UP AND SOMEBODY
CAME IN OFF THE LIST YEAH I WANT
TO SAY WE- WE HAVE SPENT SOME
TIME LOOKING AT THIS AND THIS IS
NOT ABOUT JUMPING LISTS- THIS IS
ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT WHEN THE
STORES CLOSE THAT THERE IS. A
WAY IN WHICH THOSE WORKERS END
UP ON A LIST TO BE CONSIDERED
FOR EMPLOYMENT AT A STORE THAT
IS TWENTY FIVE MILES OR CLOSER
IT DOES NOT. JUMP THE LIST IT
DOES NOT GIVE ONE GROUP OF
WORKERS PRIORITY OVER ANOTHER IT
JUST SAYS THAT WHEN THERE IS A
POSITION AVAILABLE AT THAT
STORE. THAT IS WITHIN TWENTY
FIVE MILES. THAT WORKER CAN BE
CONSIDERED. IT'S JUST CONCERT
SERVICE MY TIME TO MOVE UP AND
I'M AT THAT STORE THAT REMAINED
OPEN. IS IT THAT THE PERSON WHO
IS RUNNING THAT STORE HAS TO GO
TO THE LIST FIRST OR THEY'LL
GIVE ME MY SHOT TO MOVE UP. NO
THERE IS NO AT THIS. THIS BILL
DOES NOT GIVE THOSE WORKERS
PREFERENCE OVER THE EXISTING
WORKERS IT PROVIDES A WAY IN
WHICH- THOSE WORKERS CAN BE
TRANSFERRED. IN SENIORITY ON
THAT LIST FOR CONSIDERATION BUT
IT DOES NOT. ALLOW WORKERS TO
JUMP OVER A LIST. OF EXISTING
WORKERS TO BE PRIORITIZED OVER
EXISTING WORKERS AND- IF YOU
WANT TO ADD TO THAT. THROUGH THE
SHARE. AND ALSO FOR IN TERMS OF.
WHETHER IT'S SOMEONE WHO'S
MOVING UP. JUST LIKE THE- THE
HOSPITALITY RECALL BILL. IT IS
HAS TO BE. THE SAME POSITION SO
IF YOU WERE UP FOR RE STUFF.
THAT'S OUT OF STARBUCKS. YOU CAN
ONLY TRANSFER BE REHIRED INTO
BEING UPPER EAST. SO IT'S NOT
LIKE IF YOU WERE THE DISHWASHER
YOU'RE GOING TO BE HIRED TO BE A
VALET SO IT'S MORE OF THAT
LATERAL MOVE FROM- VERSUS YOU
KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO BE PROMOTED
JUST BECAUSE THERE'S A
SUPERVISOR POSITION. NO YEAH MY
CONCERN WAS I'VE BEEN WORKING AT
THE LOCAL STARBUCKS FOR TEN
YEARS IS MY TIME TO BECOME A
SUPERVISOR. THERE'S AN OPENING
AND WHAT DOES THE PERSON THAT
RUNS THAT STORE DUE TO THE GO TO
THE LIST ARE THEY ALLOW ME ME
BECAUSE I PUT IN MY- AT THAT
PER. STORE AND I READY TO UP. SO
WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME IS. EIGHT
I COULD MOVE UP RIGHT. AND THEY
WOULD JUST CONSIDER THE
LEICESTER HOW DOES THE LIST PLAY
INTO THAT SCENARIO. AM I NOT
GETTING INNER. YES IF IT'S A
COMPARABLE POSITION IF THERE'S A
SUPERVISOR WHO'S ON THE TRANSFER
LIST ALTHOUGH I THEN THEY WOULD
TRANSFER AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO
BE GIVEN THE OFFERED TO TAKE
THAT POSITION SAID THEY BUMP ME
. IT WOULD IF IT WAS AN OPEN
POSITION THEY WOULD BE OFFERED
THAT POSITION. ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE
COMMITTEE MISTER KALRA. THANK
THANK YOU MISTER CHAIRMAN AND-
HOW TO BE A COOP ON THIS BILL
AND- AS WAS REFERENCE. OF PRIOR
BILL THAT WAS VETOED THE REST OF
THAT SENTENCE SHOULD SAY
HOWEVER. A FEW MONTHS LATER WAS
INCORPORATED THROUGH. IN THROUGH
BUDGET ACTION. BECAUSE THE GUY
DID READ. THE IMPORTANCE OF
HAVING THESE PROVISIONS IN PLACE
DURING COLD AND I THINK THAT. A
GIVEN THE FACT. THAT- THERE'S
STILL A LOT OF WORKERS IN FLUX-
AND THE NARROW OF WHAT I BELIEVE
TO BE THE KNOWN AS THE BILL
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. CHANGE THE
HUNDRED OR MORE STORAGE IS A
LARGE CORPORATIONS THAT DON'T
MAKE DECISIONS SIXTY DAYS BEFORE
THEY ACT. THEY MAKE DECISIONS
MONTHS OR EVEN YEARS BEFORE THEY
ACT SO I THINK GIVING THE- THE
RESPECT. TO THE WORKERS OF
GIVING THEM A LITTLE BIT OF TIME
BEFORE THEIR- LIVES UP ENDED-
BYE BYE LOSING THEIR POSITION
AND- UP BY GIVING AN OPPORTUNITY
FOR THEM. WITHIN A CERTAIN
AMOUNT OF. RANGE OF MILEAGE. TO
TO CONTINUE IN THEIR SERVICES
COMPANIES- I THINK AGAIN IT'S
ABOUT AWAITING OF INTEREST
NOTHING IN THIS CASE THE- THE
WORKERS ARE GOING THROUGH FAR
MORE OF A STRUGGLE. WHEN THEY
LOSE THEIR JOBS AND THE
CORPORATION THAT IS SHUTTING
DOWN A ONE SITE AND- PRESUMABLY.
OF WHAT WE NEED TO HAVE SOME
CONSOLIDATION OF THE WORK IN AND
. OTHER SITES THANK. SENIOR
FURTHER QUESTIONS ARE COME FROM
THE TO REMOTE. BUT MOTION FROM
ISRAEL. A SECOND MISTER KALRA-
ESTATE AND CENTER SMALL. WAYS TO
MAKE. SO I WANT TO SAY THAT-
I'VE HAD THE UNFORTUNATE I. OF
WORKING WITH WORKERS WHO HAVE
BEEN TO. WHEN THE LAST. WHILE IN
CRENSHAW BOULEVARD. IT WAS
PREGNANT LATINO WOMEN AND BLACK
WOMEN WHO LOST THEIR JOBS AND IT
TOOK. ABOUT FOUR YEARS FOR THEM
TO FIND FULL TIME EMPLOYMENT
WHEN THAT STORE CLOSED. AT WE
WANT THE WORKERS TO BE ABLE TO
WEATHER THE STORM. OUR COMMUNITY
SHOULD KNOW WHEN THEY'RE GOING
TO LOSE A BUSINESS AND SALES TAX
OUT OF THEIR COMMUNITIES WHEN
THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. AND
THOSE WORKERS WHETHER THEY ARE
SUPERVISORS- THE RANK AND FILE-
CASHIERS THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO
FIND COMPARABLE WORK AT A STORE.
HI IF THEY HAVE SENIORITY THAT
IS IN WITH A TWENTY FIVE MILE
PROXIMITY OF WHERE THE STORE
CLOSURES HAPPENING SO THIS IS A
COMMON SENSE. BILL BECAUSE IT AT
THE END OF THE DAY IT KEEPS
EVERYONE IN OUR COMMUNITIES
WORKING- WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO
SEE IS YOU KNOW WHERE WE SAW
STARBUCKS CLOSING. UP TO THREE
HUNDRED STORES- WE KNOW WHAT
THAT TOLD TAKES ON OUR
COMMUNITIES IN TERMS OF HOUSING-
SO MANY OF FOLKS IN OUR DISTRICT
HAVE TO WIN THREE OF THESE JOBS
JUST TO MAKE THEM. INS MEET TO
KEEP A ROOF OVER THEIR HEADS
WHEN A STORE CLOSES THAT PUTS
THEM AT RISK OF BEING HOMELESS
THESE ARE. THE LOW WAGE RETAIL
JOBS IN OUR COMMUNITIES THESE
ARE THE WORKERS WHO CAN'T AFFORD
TO MISS A PAYCHECK. AND SO THIS
MEANS THAT WE HAVE TO ENSURE
THAT EMPLOYERS ARE RESPONSIBLE
THAT THEY ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE
WORKERS DESERVE INFORMATION AND
THAT THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY
TO CONTINUE TO WORK. OUT WHERE
THE OPPORTUNITY IS NEAR- THEIR
HOME TO INVESTING. ASSISTING
THEIR COMMUNITY SO I JUST WANT
TO SAY- WITH THAT HIGH- INTO THE
ASK WE ASK FOR YOUR AYE VOTE ON
THIS TO PROTECT OUR COMMUNITIES
THANK YOU EMOTIONAL SECOND
MOTION TO PASS AS AMENDED THE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE ASKED
THE CLERK TO PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL. MAIENSCHEIN I MISS I
ASSUME NO THE SALE KNOW. CON I
DIXON. SIX HANEY. CALL FIVE
KALRA FIVE CZECHO. HAPPEN HAPPEN
I. REYES AYE REYES AYE CENTER.
SANCHEZ NO MECHANIC. YOUR BILL
NEEDS ONE MORE IF REMAIN ON CALL
THANK YOU THE CENTER START. ITEM
ELEVEN S. B. C. NINETY. OKAY
SINCE. WELCOME THE MESSAGE CARE
. MEMBERS THANK YOU- ASCENDING
U. S. B. SIR NINETY FIVE WHEN I
FIRST TAKE A MOMENT TO. A THE
WORK OF CHEROKEE X. THE AMEND-
THE PORTION THE BILL BUT YOUR-
IS LESS ABOUT ENERGY AND AIR
CONDITIONING MORE ABOUT THE
CALIFORNIA PUBLIC RECORDS ACT
BUT THIS BILL IS. AT ITS CORE IS
ABOUT MAKING SURE PEOPLE GET
WHAT THEY PAY FOR WHEN THEY BUY
AN AC UNIT. ESPECIALLY WHEN
THEY'RE IN A PINCH AND ARE
MAKING DECISIONS- QUICKLY OFTEN
JOBS ARE INSTALLED AND SHODDY
MANNER- WE KNOW THE WAGER HERE
RIGHT NOW I JUST WENT THROUGH IT
MYSELF AND- HOW TO GET ANY
TRACKING IT VERY QUICKLY- AND
YOU KNOW WHEN IT'S HUNDRED TEN
DEGREES OUTSIDE AND YOU'VE GOT A
NEWBORN BABY AND OLD MAN LIVING
WITH YOU AND SO THESE THINGS GET
VERY REAL VERY QUICKLY
UNFORTUNATELY THOSE MOMENTS A
LOT OF PEOPLE END UP GETTING. AC
UNITS THAT AREN'T INSTALLED
PROPERLY AND SO YOU END UP
EATING A REALLY BIG BILL OVER
TIME IF THE WAY THE DUCTING IS
DONE. WITH THE BLOWERS CONNECTED
YOU KNOW THOSE THINGS DON'T WORK
IN FACT- ESTIMATED BY- ENERGY
COMMISSION. PUBLIC UTILITIES
COMMISSION THAT- THE- WE'RE
MEETING TO TWENTY WHICH IS THE
QUALITY THE- IT INSTALLATION
REQUIREMENTS ABOUT 15% OF THE
TIME AND THAT COULD BE ABOUT A
30% SAVINGS OVER ALL PEOPLES- AC
BILLS IF WE WERE JUST DOING HIS
JOB RIGHT SO THAT'S THE CONTEXT
BUT FOR PURPOSES HERE WE WANT TO
JUST CLARIFY THAT- THAT. ANY
REQUEST ON THE C. P. R. A. HAVE
TO BE DONE IN ACCORDANCE WITH-
THE FRAMEWORK WE'VE LAID OUT
HERE IT'S NOT A- SORT OF ALL
INFORMATION IS EXCESS WE WANT TO
BE CAREFUL ABOUT CAN. PROTECTING
SAY CONFIDENTIAL BUSINESS
INFORMATION AND BEING CLEAR
THAT. THOSE RECORDS- THAT COULD
BE REQUEST UNDERSEA PEERING ARE
NECESSARILY IN THE FORMAT THAT
THEY ORIGINALLY SUBMITTED TO THE
ENERGY COMMISSION IN OTHER
WORDS. YOU WOULDN'T HAVE A
SITUATION WHERE EVERYONE WILL
KNOW YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS OF
WHAT AC UNIT YOU BOUGHT AND
TRACK IT LIKE THAT RIGHT WE
DON'T WANT UNDERMINES PEOPLE'S-
PRIVACY IN THOSE WAYS AND LET
THE CPRE ISSUE. BE SOMEHOW- RISK
THAT I THINK THE MEN'S HERE
SHOULD CLARIFY THAT ISSUE AND
HOPEFULLY- MAKE ADMINISTRATION
OF THIS PROGRAM FUNCTIONAL- AND
WORKABLE AND- MAYBE EVERYONE YOU
SHOULD CHECK IN YOUR AREA IF YOU
HAVE. A E. PERMITTING OR A FAST
PROCESSING FOR YOUR CITY OR
COUNTY- FOR THESE KIND OF
PERMITS BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S A
MIXED BAG IN SOME PARTS LA WE
HAVEN'T OTHER PARTS WE DON'T
VENTURA COUNTY- IT'S HARDER IN
RURAL AREAS SO WE WANT TO MAKE
SURE THE PEOPLE ARE GETTING GOOD
QUALITY WORK- QUICKLY. AND THAT
THE C. C. IN THE PC OF SOME
PURVIEW OVER THAT SO I HAVE TIME
MENTAL HERE AT **** WORKERS AND
KIKI BLESSED WITH ENERGY SEEING
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR. THANK YOU
FIRST. WITNESS GOOD AFTERNOON
CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE
MY NAME IS QI FELLAS I WITH.
RESOURCE DEFENSE. I'M A CLEAN
BUILDINGS ADVOCATE AND SPEAK A
LITTLE BIT MORE TO WHAT THE BILL
DOES AND THEN MENTAL AND IF. AND
COST BENEFITS OF THE BILL. THE
SB SEVEN NINE FIVE ADDRESSES
ISSUES OF CODE COMPLIANCE AND
ENFORCEMENT TO KEEP THIS A
MANAGEABLE TASK THE BILL STARTS
WITH JUST EACH BACK AND
COMMERCIAL LIGHTING. BECAUSE
THESE ARE AREAS OF PARTICULAR
IMPORTANCE WHEN THAT WHERE
THERE'S A NEED FOR INCREASED
ENFORCEMENT. ON THE LIGHTING
SIDE MANY PROJECTS ARE ACTUALLY
GETTING PERMITS BUT THE TESTING
AND REVIEW REQUIRED BY THE CODE-
TO MAKE SURE THE SYSTEMS ARE AS
EFFICIENT- AND AS DESIGNED IS
NOT GETTING DONE IN MANY CASES.
THIS BILL WILL ALLOW LOCAL CODE
OFFICIALS TO MORE EASILY CHECK
THAT THIS TESTING OCCURS BECAUSE
IT WILL PROVIDE ACCESS TO THE
DATABASE OF THE REQUIRED CODE
DOCUMENTATION. WHICH LOCAL
OFFICIALS CONDEMNED REVIEW. ON
THE H. BACKSIDE THE BIG ISSUE IS
THAT- PARTICULARLY IN THE
RESIDENTIAL MARKET. AS SENATOR
STERN MENTIONED MANY PROJECTS
ARE GETTING PERMITTED AND
INSPECTED AT ALL. WE DON'T KNOW
EXACTLY HOW MANY BECAUSE WE
CAN'T TRACK THE INSTALLS THAT
DON'T GET PERMITS BUT THE ENERGY
COMMISSION ESTIMATES THAT AS
MANY AS NINETY PERCENT. OF
RESIDENTIAL H. BACK IS NOT
PERMITTED ONLY 10% APPROXIMATELY
ARE PULLING PERMITS. THIS MEANS
THAT WE CAN'T INSURE QUALITY
INSULATION OR THAT THE DOCKS OR
EVEN FUNCTIONAL. AND IF WE DON'T
KNOW WHERE NEW EACH BACK IS
GOING AND WE ALSO DON'T HAVE AN
INTERVENTION POINT- TO MAKE SURE
THAT THE RIGHT EQUIPMENT IS
GOING IN. OR THAT THE
REFRIGERANT FROM THE OLD A. C.
IS BEING PROPERLY DISPOSED OF TO
AVOID THE HUGE CLIMATE IMPACTS
THAT REFRIGERANTS. HAVE WHEN
LEAKED INTO THE ENVIRONMENT.
THIS PROVIDES US SO. TO
INCREASING ENFORCEMENT.
CONTRACTORS AND DISTRIBUTORS
WILL REGISTER THE EQUIPMENT SOLD
WHICH CAN THEN BE COMPARED TO
THE PERMIT DOCUMENTATION. SO FOR
EXAMPLE IF A CONTRACTOR BY THE
HUNDRED HEAT PUMPS BUT THE ONLY
POOL PERMITS FOR TEN OF THEM.
THEN THE ENERGY COMMISSION AND
CONTRACTORS STATE LICENSE BOARD
WILL TAKE NOTE. WE BELIEVE THAT
ACTIVE ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTIES
PROBABLY WON'T BE NECESSARY
BECAUSE JUST KNOWING THAT THE
STATE EXISTS WILL MOTIVATE
CONTRACTORS WHO WANT TO KEEP
THEIR LICENSES TO COMPLY. THANKS
WE AFTER ADVOCATE Q. NEXT
WITNESS THANK YOU TOM AND FLOWN
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA STATE
PIPE TRADES COUNCIL THE WESTERN
STATES CONSERVE SHEET METAL
WORKERS. MISTER WHITE
ASSOCIATION OF INTERNATIONAL
BROTHER HOOD OF ELECTRICAL
WORKERS- AS MY COLLEAGUE ENERGY
SHE EXPLAINED IS A REALLY
IMPORTANT BILL FOR ENFORCEMENT
IT'S BEEN AN ISSUE. THAT WE'VE
BEEN TRYING TO DRESS FOR FIFTEEN
TWENTY YEARS KEY TO IDEA OF
THESE DATABASES HAVE BEEN AROUND
FOR ABOUT. TEN YEARS IT'S TIME
TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN I WANT
ADDRESS QUICKLY THE PUBLIC
RECORDS ACT. HE ISSUES I'M I'M
GOING TO THANK ME STAFF FOR-
THEIR AMENDMENTS TO CLARIFY THE
PUBLIC RECORDS ACT DOES THE-
DOES APPLY HERE. BUT WHAT WE DO
TO PROTECT STILL PROTECT A TRADE
SECRET INFORMATION IS RESTATE
THIS BILL EXISTING EXEMPTIONS
WITHIN THE CALIFORNIA PUB PUBLIC
PUBLIC RECORDS ACT. WHICH IS
THAT- INFORMATION IN THE CELLS
REGISTRY TO PROVIDE PERSONAL
INFORMATION AGGREGATE
MANUFACTURER SPECIFIC SALES
DATA. OR TRADE SECRETS IS
CONFIDENTIAL NOT A PUBLIC
RECORD. AND THAT'S X. THAT'S
CONSISTENT WITH EXISTING
EXEMPTIONS- BUT YOU KNOW WE'RE
NOT WE'RE NOT CHANGING THE
PUBLIC RECORDS ACT- YEAH BUT THE
PUBLIC RECORD ACT DOES. ADDRESS
THAT ISSUE. WE ALSO WANT TO NOTE
THAT THE DATABASE IS DON'T
COLLECT ANY INFORMATION THAT'S
NOT ALREADY CUT A COLLECTED BY
LOCAL BUILDING DEPARTMENTS AS
REQUIRED FOR ENERGY CODE
ENFORCEMENT WHICH IS ALREADY
PUBLICLY AVAILABLE. AND THAT. I
FINALLY THAT DISTRIBUTE AND READ
. I CAN'T. ARE ALREADY REQUIRED
TO COLLECT AND MAINTAIN. A BACK
TO CREATE SALES INSTALL. FROM
FOR YEARS UNDER THE FEDERAL. OF
ENERGY REGULATIONS THESE
DATABASES WAS SIMPLY ENABLE
DIGITALLY CROSSCHECK IN THIS
ALREADY COLLECTED INFORMATION IN
ORDER TO IDENTIFY IF EQUIPMENT
BEEN INSTALLED. WITHOUT
COMPLYING WITH PERMITTING OR
ENERGY COMMISSION ACCEPTANCE
TEST REQUIREMENTS- AND WITH
THAT- I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
THANK YOU ARE AND SINISTER YOU
ACCEPT A MOMENT YES THANK YOU
FOR F. FOR THE WITNESSES AND
SUPPORT NAME AN ORGANIZATION
ONLY. GOOD MORNING MISTER CHAIR
MEMBERS CHRIS WALKER BEHALF THE
CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF SHEET
METAL AIR CONDITIONING
CONTRACTORS IN SUPPORT OF THE
BILL THANK YOU. J. B. TAKE A
VICE PRESIDENT OF STATE AFFAIRS
THE BLUEGREEN ALLIANCE IN STRONG
SUPPORT. PARDON FALLS AWAY WITH
CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL VOTERS
IN SUPPORT. TURNOVERS TIFFANY
FAN ON BEHALF THE CALIFORNIA
FISH AND SEA AND MY MANTRA
COUNCIL IN SUPPORT WHEN I THINK
THE AUTHOR- AS WAS HIS STAFF IN
THE SPONSORS FOR ACCEPTING-
PREVIOUSLY ON A MINUTE WE HAD
SUGGESTED SO THANK YOU. HIS HAND
HIM CLEANERS FOR KIDS STRONG
SUPPORT THANK YOU SEE NO FURTHER
WITNESSES AND SUPPORT WITNESSES
IN OPPOSITION. SCENE NINE AT
RISK ARE. THANK YOU MISTER
CHAIRMAN THANK THINKCENTRE.
HAPPY TO MOVE THE BILL HANDING
OFF TRANSPOSED HERE OTHER STATES
ISN'T COMMENTS BILL AND
SOMETIMES NOT BUT THIS ACTUALLY
IS A VERY SIMPLE COMMONSENSE
BILL THAT I THINK IS. A LONG
OVERDUE SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR
WORK ON THIS AS WELL AS THE
SPONSORS OLYMPIAD IS A CO AUTHOR
THE MOTION FOR MISTER KALRA.
SECOND FROM IS PAP AND MISS REST
OF YOUR COMMENT YES- ONE
QUESTION THE WAS ELSE RICK THIS
IS. THE REGISTRY IS ABOUT. THIS
OF THE OF THE UNIT. AND IF THE
SALE IS MADE OUT OF STATE. IS
THAT TOWARDS TRACKED OUT OF
STATE- THIS IS JUST FOR CELLS
ARE EIGHT WITHIN THE- IT DOESN'T
TRACK SALES ARE EQUIPMENT OUT OF
STATE SO BASICALLY DISTRIBUTOR
THAT SELLS OR RETAILER THAT
SELLS. IN CALIFORNIA HAS TO
COLLECT THAT INFORMATION AND PUT
IN THE DATABASE THEY ALREADY
HAVE TO COLLECT INFORMATION AS
TO WHAT CONTRACTORS THEY SELL TO
AND WHERE THEY SELL IT- SO IT'S
JUST. PRETTY INFORMATION ALREADY
COLLECTED INTO FOUR FOUR THAT
REPLIES TO THIS STATE. INTO A
DATABASE CAN BE CROSSED. IN THE
END THE CON. THE ALL ACTUALLY
GOING TO INSIST IT ARE THEY
HAVING TO REPORT ANYTHING. THE
CONTRA. WAS ALREADY WITH BY LAW
TO YOU KNOW PULL THE PERMIT AND
DO ACCEPT TEST. WHICH AND SAID
IN. AND THAT'S IN FROM THAT GOES
INTO THE COMPLIANCE- REGISTRY-
THAT THAT DATA ALLOWS BUILDING
OFFICIALS TO KNOW THAT THAT
INFORMATION'S BEEN- THAT THAT
DOES ACCEPT AND SUCH HAVE BEEN
DONE BUT IT OTHER THAN ALSO
CROSS CHECKED AGAINST THE SALES
REGISTRY SO THAT'S HOW WE-
CANNOT YOU KNOW MAKE THAT JUMP
FROM. WAS IT SOLD AND THEN WAS
IT INSTALLED AS REQUIRED UNDER
LAW. THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE
COMMITTEE SEEN NINE WE DO HAVE A
MOTION AND SECOND- THE MOTIONS
TO PASS A SPENDING
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE CENTER
. MAKE CLOTHES. WE NEED MORE
TOOLS TO MAKE THIS STATE COOLER
AND WE HOPE THIS IS ONE OF THEM
GIVE PEOPLE BETTER DEAL IN THE
PROCESS. I DO APPRECIATE THE
WORKING MANUFACTURERS THOUGH AND
EVERYONE OUT THERE RESPECTFULLY
ASK FOR AB THANK YOU WE MOTION
THE SECOND- ESCORT KALRA.
MAIENSCHEIN I MEAN FOR I AS A-
TO SAY WE KNOW. CONNELLY I'D
TAKE. DIXON NO. KALRA KALRA FIVE
TO CHECK OUT. THE CHECK OUT BY
HAPPEN. HAPPENED I REYES HI
BRAESIDE SENTIENCE. SENTENCE I
MCKENNA. BILL IS. THANK YOU ARE
FINAL ITEM OF THE DAY CENTER.
GET TO. FORGET HI FROM THE LAST
ONE I HOPE HAVING A.
THANK YOU MEMBERS AND CHAIR FOR
ALLOWING ME 2% OF REALLY
IMPORTANT BILL SB THREE THIRTY
ONE WHICH IS CRITICAL TO
STRENGTHEN PROTECTIONS FOR
CHILDREN VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE AND FAMILY DURING. OUR
LAW PROCEEDINGS I WOULD THINK
THE CHAIRMAN HAS COMMITTEE FOR
WORKING WITH US IN THE STUFF OF
COURSE I AND MY STAFF THAT WORK
SO HARD ON THIS THIS BILL WILL
SAVE LIVES I WILL BE ACCEPTING
THE COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS LISTED
ON PAGES NINE TO ELEVEN ON THE
ANALYSIS. I ALSO WANT TO COMMIT
TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH
STAKEHOLDERS SAID THERE'S ANY
OUTSTANDING ISSUES MEMBERS THIS
IS A CRITICAL BILL THAT WILL
ESTABLISH MORE DETAIL TRAININGS
ON DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND CHILD
ABUSE FOR JUDICIAL OFFICERS AND
EVERYONE INVOLVED IN THE FAMILY
COURT SYSTEM. IT ALSO INCLUDES
CRITICAL OF REPORTING
REQUIREMENTS TO MEASURE PROGRAM
EFFECTIVENESS AND PROHIBITS
COUNSELING THAT TAKES PLACE IN
AN UNREGULATED NONCLINICAL
SETTING COUNSELING THAT IS
COURSE SETH AND THREATENING TO
SPECIALLY TO CHILDREN COUNTY AT
THAT CUTS THIS COUNSELING CUTS
OFF CHILDREN FROM PROTECTIVE
PARENTS AND COUNTING THAT
EXCEEDS THE GENERALLY ACCEPTED.
AGE APPROPRIATE LENGTH OF TIME
AT THE COUNSELING US ORDERED HIM
MUST FOLLOW GENERALLY ACCEPTED
METHODS ALL OF THESE ARE
COMMONSENSE PROTECTIONS THAT
WILL CONTINUE TO ENSURE THAT
COUNTING WHEN ORDERED IS IN THE
BEST INTEREST OF THE CHILD. SB
THREE THIRTY ONE IS ALSO KNOWN
AS PEAKY SLAW. NAMED AFTER FOR
YEAR OLD WHO WAS KILLED BY HIS
FATHER IN MY DISTRICT BACK IN
APRIL OF TWENTY SEVENTEEN. I
BELIEVE PEAK IS LAW NOT ONLY
MEETS THE NEED OF THIS MOMENT
BUT ALSO GIVES THE VOICE TO OVER
NINE HUNDRED AND TWENTY
CHILDREN. MURDERED IN OUR
COUNTRY. FOR CALLING OUT. FROM
THEIR GRAVES SUCH AS BEGGING US
TO DO SOMETHING. THE JUDICIAL
SYSTEM FAILS SO MANY OF OUR
CHILDREN. FOR EXAMPLE SYMBIONTS
SAMANTHA AND SAMARAS ALL UNDER
THIRTEEN YEARS OLD WHO WERE
BURNT MURDER LAST YEAR HERE IN
SACRAMENTO. GUNNED DOWN BY THEIR
FATHER. HE HAD A HISTORY OF
ABUSE HAD A RESTRAINING ORDER.
WAS VERBALIZING HIS DISTRESS
SAYING THAT HE WANTED TO KILL
HIMSELF AND HARM OTHERS. AND YET
WE PLACE THOSE THREE LITTLE
GIRLS AND THAT HOME TO BE
SLAUGHTERED. BIGGIE'S MOTHER
ANNA STATUS IS HERE TO SHARE HER
STORY AS WELL. SHE FOUGHT HARD
IN FAMILY COURT TO PROTECT HER
CHILDREN FROM AN ABUSIVE EX
HUSBAND AND FATHER OF PEAKY.
DESPITE AND ITS BEST EFFORTS.
THE COURT REFUSED TO STOP
VISITATIONS LEADING TO HER SON'S
TRAGIC MURDER. I ALSO WANT TO
HIGHLIGHT THAT THERE'S CURRENTLY
SO MANY PARENTS OUT THERE
FIGHTING. TO KEEP THEIR CHILDREN
ALIVE. THEY'RE TRYING TO PROTECT
THEIR CHILDREN BUT YET THEY GET
CAUGHT UP IN THE SYSTEM. SOME
PROTECTIVE PARENTS ARE RIPPED
AWAY FROM THEIR CHILDREN FOR
ALMOST NINETY DAYS AND THAT
CAUSES TRAUMA TO THESE CHILDREN.
SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE HEARD THIS
PARTICULAR INSTANCE FROM SANTA
CRUZ WHERE TWO CHILDREN WERE
RIPPED FROM THEIR HOMES IN THE
MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT ALMOST LIKE
A KIDNAPPING. MY AND SEBASTIAN
THEY DIDN'T WANT TO GO AND YET
THEY WERE TAKEN AWAY BY
STRANGERS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE
NIGHT AWAY FROM THE PARENT THAT
THEY LOVED AND CARED ABOUT FROM
THEIR- SAFE HOME. TO WHAT THEY
CALLED REUNIFICATION PROGRAM. IN
A FEW MOMENTS YOU'LL HEAR FROM
MY OUT THAT FIFTEEN YEAR OLD
YOUNG LADY WHO WHAT WILL FOREVER
BE TRAUMATIZED AND WHO IS NOT
WITH US HERE TODAY BECAUSE SHE
STILL AFRAID. SHE'S AFRAID SHE
WILL BE KIDNAPPED AGAIN AND
POTENTIALLY MURDERED. BUT SHE'S
BRAVE ENOUGH TO BE HERE TO GIVE
HER TESTIMONY OVER THE INTERCOM
. AGAIN THIS BILL AIMS TO
PROTECT THE BEST INTERESTS OF
CHILDREN VICTIMS AND FAMILY.
WITH ME HERE TODAY TO TESTIFY
SENATE STATUS WITH LITTLE BOYS
THIS BILL HONORS BIGGIE SMALLS
ON A STATUS. AND ALSO WE HAVE
MAYA ALREADY MENTIONED WILL BE
TESTIFYING OVER THE
TELECONFERENCE THANK YOU WE'LL
START WITH THE WITNESSES HERE
AND THEN WE'LL GO TO THE-
INTERCOM SYSTEM SO WITH THAT FOR
CLARIFICATION THIS IS ANA AND
AGES WILL SIT HERE FOR
TECHNICAL. QUESTIONS YOU MAY
HAVE. ANA OKAY. IN GOOD
AFTERNOON GOOD AFTERNOON
CHAIRMAN. AND MEMBERS OF THE CA.
I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE
SENATOR RUBIO FOR HER INCREDIBLE
WORK AND ONGOING COMMITMENT TO
KEEPING VICTIMS SAFE FROM ABUSE.
AND FOR LEADING THE EFFORTS IN
FAMILY COURT REFORM. I ALSO WANT
TO THANK THE MANY CO AUTHORS.
FROM BOTH THE SENATE AND
ASSEMBLY WHO COURAGEOUSLY
SUPPORT SENATE BILL THREE THREE
ONE FIFTIES LAW. I AM HERE TODAY
AS A CONSTITUENT A MOTHER A
VETERAN OF THE UNITED STATES
ARMY A FORMER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
PRINCIPAL BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY
I'M HERE AS AN ADVOCATE FOR
CHILDREN WHO SUFFER AT THE HANDS
OF AN ABUSIVE PARENT. SENATE
BILL THREE THREE ONE IS NAMED
AFTER MY SON PEAKY. WHO WAS
BRUTALLY MURDERED BY HIS FATHER.
IN APRIL OF. TWENTY SEVENTEEN.
BIGGIE'S FATHER SUFFOCATED HIM
IN THE BACKSEAT OF HIS VEHICLE
AS MY SON SLEPT STRAPPED INTO
HIS CAR SEAT AFTER SPENDING THE
DAY AT DISNEYLAND. IN A RECENT
DOCUMENTARY RELEASED ABOUT MY
SON'S MURDER HIS FATHER
DESCRIBED IN DETAIL HOW MUCH MY
SON STRUGGLED AS HE COVERED HIS
FACE WITH A SWEATER. NEXT
HUSBAND AND DROVE. FOR TWO HOURS
WITH THE KEYS LIFELESS BODY AND
THEN PROCEEDED TO DUMP HIM IN A
HEAVILY WOODED AREA IN SANTA
BARBARA COUNTY. MY SON'S
WHEREABOUTS WAS UNKNOWN FOR
SEVENTY ONE DAYS UNTIL HIS
FATHER CONFESSED TO THE MURDER.
WHICH ACCORDING TO HOMICIDE
DETECTIVES WAS HIS FINAL ACT OF
REVENGE FOR ME WANTING A DIVORCE
. DURING HIS CONFESSION BECAUSE
FATHER STATED. I WANTED MY SON
TO HAVE THE BEST LAST DAY OF HIS
LIFE. MY SON WAS FIVE YEARS OLD
WHEN HE TOOK HIS LAST BREATH.
AND DURING MY DIVORCE
PROCEEDINGS. I FART FOUGHT HARD
TO PROTECT MY SON. I DOCUMENTED
IN WRITING TO THE COURT THAT I
FEARED FOR OUR SAFETY DESCRIBE
MY EX HUSBAND'S EROTIC AN
ABUSIVE BEHAVIOR. AND PROVIDED
SUPPORTING EVIDENCE I ALSO FILED
FOR A RESTRAINING ORDERS
SUBPOENAED LAW ENFORCEMENT
OFFICERS TO TESTIFY AND
REQUESTED SOLE CUSTODY WITH
SUPERVISED VISITS. HE WAS
FEARFUL OF HIS FATHER IN
REPEATEDLY BAGS. PLEASE DON'T
MAKE ME GO MAMA. I AM STILL
HAUNTED BY THE THOUGHTS AND
FEELINGS OF BETRAYAL THAT RAN
THROUGH MY LITTLE BOY'S HEAD.
WHEN I FORCED HIM TO GO. DESPITE
ALL OF MY EFFORTS MY PLEAS WERE
IGNORED THE RESTRAINING ORDERS
SO CUSTODY SUPERVISED VISITS
WERE ALL DENIED. THE HORRENDOUS
DECISIONS MADE BY THE JUDGES WHO
PRESIDED OVER MY CASE EMPOWERED
MY EX HUSBAND. TO METHODICALLY
PLAN AND EXECUTE THE MURDER OF
MY ONLY CHILD. THE PROVISION IN
THIS BILL THAT I WOULD LIKE TO
ADDRESS RELATE TO THE TRAINING
PROGRAMS TO BE ESTABLISHED BY
THE JUDICIAL COUNCIL. TRAINING
TARGETED TRAINING FOR JUDGES IS
NOT ONLY NEEDED IT IS ESSENTIAL
JUDGES ARE OFTEN ASSIGNED TO
FAMILY COURT WITHOUT PROPER
TRAINING OR DEPTH OF KNOWLEDGE
NEEDED TO MAKE INFORMED
DECISIONS RELATED TO DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE. CHILD ABUSE AND OTHER
COMPLEX TOPICS IN FAMILY LAW.
THE FIRST JUDGE WHO PRESIDED
OVER MY CASE. WAS APPOINTED TO
THE BENCH IN TWENTY TWELVE AFTER
PRACTICING TWENTY EIGHT YEARS OF
BUSINESS OF COMPLEX BUSINESS
LITIGATION IN PRIVATE LAW FIRMS
. IRONICALLY THE SECOND JUDGE
ALSO HAD TWENTY EIGHT YEARS OF
BUSINESS LITIGATION. BOTH JUDGES
HAD ZERO EXPERIENCE IN FAMILY
LAW. BUT WE'RE STILL ASSIGNED TO
OVERSEE COMPLEX FAMILY MATTERS
AND MAKE DECISIONS THAT
ULTIMATELY DEVASTATED LIVES.
HIGH QUALITY TRAINING HAS A
DIRECT IMPACT ON PRODUCTIVITY
PERFORMANCE AND EFFECTIVENESS IT
INCREASES AN INDIVIDUAL'S SKILL
SET AND EMPOWERS THEM TO DO A
GOOD JOB. I CANNOT THINK OF A
PROFESSION WHERE AN INDIVIDUAL
IS NOT REQUIRED TO COMPLETE
TRAINING PRIOR TO A LICENSE
RENEWAL. IN CALIFORNIA
PHYSICIANS ARE REQUIRED TO
COMPLETE FIFTY CME HOURS EVERY
TWO YEARS TO RENEW THEIR MEDICAL
LICENSE. WHEN I WAS A TEACHER I
HAD TO COMPLETE ONE HUNDRED AND
FIFTY HOURS OF PROFESSIONAL
DEVELOPMENT EVERY FIVE YEARS TO
RENEW MY CREDENTIALS. AS AN
EDUCATION ADMINISTRATOR I AM
REQUIRED TO RENEW BOTH TEACHING
AND ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES
CREDENTIALS AND IN ADDITION TO
THAT I'M ALSO REQUIRED TO
COMPLETE ANNUAL TRAINING THAT
FOCUSES ON CHILD ABUSE AND
NEGLECT. SUICIDE PREVENTION
HARASSMENT AND IMPLICIT BIAS.
FAMILY COURT IS NOT THE VENUE
FOR ON THE JOB TRAINING. ASKING
FAMILY LAW JUDGES TO COMPLETE
TRAINING IS NOT AN UNREASONABLE
REQUEST. COMPLEX ISSUES ARISE
DAILY AND IF WE ARE TO EXPECT.
BETTER OUTCOMES WE MUST ENSURE
JUDGES ARE WELL PREPARED FOR THE
HEAVY LIFT THAT AWAITS THEM. MY
JUDGES WERE NOT PREPARED FOR THE
COMPLEX'S COMPLEXITIES OF MY
DIVORCE CASE AND AS A RESULT OF
THEIR DECISIONS. MANY LIVES WERE
DESTROYED. MY SON WAS BRUTALLY
MURDERED BY HIS FATHER. MY EX
HUSBAND IS CURRENTLY SERVING
TWENTY FIVE YEARS TO LIFE IN
PRISON FOR MURDER. MY CAREER AS
AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL PRINCIPAL
AND ULTIMATELY. THE SENTENCE I
RECIEVED IS LIFE WITHOUT MY SON
. AND THE PASSAGE OF THEIR
FIFTIES WELL WELL OBVIOUSLY
NEVER BENEFIT OR PROTECT MY SON.
BUT IT WILL KEEP OTHER CHILDREN
SAFER FROM VIOLENCE AND IT IS
THE RIGHT THING TO DO. I AM NO
ONE SPECIAL. I'M SIMPLY A MOM.
WHO CONTINUES TO HONOR AND MOURN
HER SON. AND SO I ASK EACH OF
YOU TO REFLECT FOR A MOMENT. AND
ASK YOURSELF THIS QUESTION. IF
MY CHILD WAS MURDERED. WHAT
WOULD I EXPECT LAWMAKERS. TO DO
TO PREVENT SOMETHING SIMILAR
FROM HAPPENING AGAIN. AND WITH
THAT I THINK ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR
TIME AND I HUMBLY REQUEST THAT
YOU SUPPORT. BECAUSE LAW THANK
YOU THANK YOU AND ON BEHALF OF
OUR COMMITTEE THANK YOU FOR THAT
VERY DIFFICULT CUSTOMER- WE WILL
NOW TURN TO THE WITNESS I SPOKE
BETTER IN THE- BEGINNING OF THE
MEETING OF THE WEATHER SO WE ARE
ALLOWING TO TESTIFY- SO WE
FORGET TURN TO THAT. WITNESS
PLEASE. HI- I'M AND I LIKE
TALKING YET GO AHEAD PLEASE. HI
MY NAME IS SMILING AND SIXTEEN
FROM SANTA CRUZ. AND WE TEACH
ONE ADULT THE OR WE ARE. WE
SHOULD ASK FOR HELP WHEN THE
NUMBER HAD THE TO ABOUT- ACCUSED
US WE DID THAT WE ARE FOR HELP
FROM AN ADULTS INCLUDING THE-
AND COURT. INSTEAD OF BEING PART
. WE RETURNED A TO OUR- I TOLD
MY COURT FORCED CONFRONT NINETY
I TREATED LIKE A CRIME. ON
OCTOBER TWO. THE DAY AFTER THE
COURT CALLED A LIAR IGNORED TEST
MY AND GAVE FOCUSED MY- NOT NINE
WE WERE BY. TAKE WE WERE
KIDNAPPED IT WAS THE QUOTE. BUT
THAT DOES NOT IT RIGHT WE WERE
OUT MY GRANDMA HOUSE TRYING HIDE
AND NOT BE TAKEN. THREE LARGE
ADULT WE DIDN'T KNOW. THEY
PICKED UP A ON THE ARM AND LEGS
AND DRAGGED US TO THE- I THINK
TO RUN INTO THE CAR HEAD HE UP
THE CAR DOOR I PARK LAUNCH WHAT
CONSCIOUS. AND I WOULD SPLIT UP
. I TRIED TO WRESTLE AND BUT THE
GROUND ME AND PRESS AT THE- MY
JEAN WILL HOLD AND FOR OF MY
FACE FAMILY AND THE.
CATION CAMP THE THERAPISTS
INTERROGATED US FOR FOUR DAYS
THEY THREATENED US. WE WOULD BE
SENT TO WILL CAMP WITH NO FOOD
BLANKETS TOP YOU CROSS HE DID WE
LEARN THAT YOU SURVIVE WE NEED
TO PROTECT ARGUES NEVER HALF.
THE THERAPIST AND MOTHER CALLED
. AND WE HAD QUOTE FALSE. WE
WENT SEVEN MONTHS WITH NO CAN
WITH OUR STEP MOTHER AND STEP
THAT POINT. NO ONE WOULD BE
ALLOWED TO KNOW WE WERE AND WERE
FORCED TO OUR LAST NAME AND
HAIDAR EXPERIENCE FROM EVER KNEW
WE MATCH. WE RAN AWAY FROM MY
MOTHER LAST MONTH WE ARE NOW
WITH WITH A- WE DON'T ALLOW TO
LIVE ABOUT BUTTON THE THING
COURT. AND A MOTHER IT'S TRYING
TO UP PUT IT AND NOW YOU CAN OR
SIMILAR PROGRAM THIS IS A FAMILY
COURT THAT AND THE THIRTEEN AND
ARE DESTINED TO. AT.
PERSECUTORS HERE ON BEHALF OF
THE CITY OF SANTA MONICA IN
SUPPORT OF. HI REBECCA PERIL
ORANGE COUNTY CLINICAL SOCIAL
WORKER FOR ADOLESCENTS IN
SUPPORT. GOOD AFTERNOON. A NAME
IS CARISSA VOEPEL ACT CAME FROM
SAN DIEGO CALIFORNIA. AND
SUPPORT. THANK YOU S. B. THREE
ONE THREE THREE. HOW GOOD
AFTERNOON GERALDINE SO WELL FROM
SAN DIEGO PROTECTIVE PARENTS AND
I STRONGLY SUPPORT SB THREE
THREE ONE HIS LAW. EIGHTEENTHS
WITHIN ON BEHALF OF FOUR
DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS ASKING
FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF SB THREE
THREE ONE. ONE MOM'S BATTLE
CUSTODY PEACE MOVEMENT OF
MOTHERS AND THE CO SPONSOR
FAMILY COURT AWARENESS MONTH
THANK YOU. RICHARD SIMPSON SAME
FOR ORGANIZATIONS IN SUPPORT
THANK YOU. ERNIE SWELLING WITH
ONE MOM'S BATTLE IN SUPPORT.
JUSTIN LANGE FROM SANTA CRUZ
CALIFORNIA MYERS FATHER IN
STRONG SUPPORT OF SB THREE THREE
ONE. TWENTY VALENTINE CALIFORNIA
PROTECTIVE PARENTS ASSOCIATION
IN STRONG SUPPORT. TO DOUBLE
FARM ALAMEDA COUNTY PROTECTIVE
PARENTS STRONGLY SUPPORT. JULIE
WHOLE BURN PROTECTIVE PARENT
FROM NEWPORT BEACH CALIFORNIA
WHO JUST HAD HER CHILDREN TAKEN
AFTER TWELVE YEARS OF SOLE LEGAL
CUSTODY IN STRONG SUPPORT.
KAROLYN FARRELL MARRIAGE AND
FAMILY THERAPIST IN SANTA CRUZ
CALIFORNIA AND GRANDMA'S BASTION
IN MY WHOLE LIFE. AMY HUNTER
MOTHER OF SOPHIA AND SARA RUINED
MURDERED BY THEIR FATHER IN
DECEMBER TWO THOUSAND SEVENTEEN
IN STRONG SUPPORT. BY NOT GONNA
MAKE NOW THE OPPORTUNE ACTIVE
PARENT IT FROM MOSS BEACH
CALIFORNIA AND STRONG SUPPORT.
JOAN COLLINS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
SURVIVOR PROTECTIVE PARENTS FROM
MENLO PARK. JASPER LYSANDER I
ESCAPED HUMBOLDT COUNTY AND I'M
CURRENTLY RESIDING IN SAN DIEGO
. I'M A PROTECTIVE PARENT INTO
SURVIVOR AND I STRONGLY SUPPORT
THIS BILL. MATUS DIVERS FROM
SACRAMENTO. I LIVE IN PHOENIX.
IN SUPPORT OF. CARLY HAS I COME
TO AS A PREVIOUS MEMBER OF LAW
ENFORCEMENT A CURRENT SURVIVOR
AND CURRENT VICTIM OF SACRAMENTO
CA FAMILY COURT. IN SUPPORT.
JAMIE AMARAL M. SUPPORTIVE
PARENT AND- PROTECTIVE PARENT
I'M SORRY MY SUPPORT THANK YOU.
RENEE BLAIR FROM SANTA ROSA
CALIFORNIA I'M A PROTECTIVE
PARENT I'M ALSO AN EDUCATOR AND
I'M IN STRONG SUPPORT OF THIS
BILL. THE IT SMOKES FROM WITH
CABANA AND I STRONGLY SUPPORT
THIS BILL- ANGELES SMOKES FROM
WEST COVINA AND I SUPPORT THIS
BILL. MY NAME IS MICHAEL GO LAND
AND FORMER. PRESIDENT AND CHIEF
EXECUTIVE OFFICER OF THE FIRM
THAT I FLEW FOR MID NINE FIGURES
FROM A FEW YEARS AGO I HAD
THIRTEEN HUNDRED EMPLOYEES FOR
ABOUT EIGHTEEN YEARS HALF OF
MORE WOMEN HALF OF THE MORE MEN.
I'D SAY AT LEAST HALF OF ALL THE
PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR ME WERE
DIVORCED I HAD SIR YEAH WE'RE
YOU AND SURNAME IN
ORGANIZATIONAL NANCE ARE YOU IN
SUPPORT OF THE BILL I AM I AM I
HAVE A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE ON
IT BUT YES I SUPPORTED HIM FOR A
- THANK. THANK YOU. THE MOTION
FOR MISTER IT'S ALREADY OUT
WHEREVER MOTION SECOND SEE NO
FURTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT-
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION. SECOND
OKAY. WE ALSO NEED A SECOND
CHAIR AS WELL SO WE GOT. HEY GOT
TO WE GOT BOTH AT ONCE SO. YEAH
YEAH YEAH WE HAVE A MOTION FROM
IS RACIST SECONDS FROM MISTER
KALRA. FIRST WITNESS PLACE. GOOD
AFTERNOON MY NAME IS KATHERINE
MAC WILLIE I AM THE FAMILY LAW
DIVORCE PROFESSIONAL AND I'M
OPPOSED TO PT'S LAW. I'VE BEEN
DEALING WITH FAMILY LAW FOR OVER
FORTY YEARS TWENTY FOUR YEARS AS
AN LAPD OFFICER RESPONDING TO
RADIO CALLS DEALING WITH DIVORCE
AND CUSTODY. I WAS ALSO A FIRST
RESPONDER TO CHILD ABUSE
INVESTIGATIONS AND OTHER
SPECIALIZED UNITS IMPACTED BY
FAMILY LAW THE LAST SIXTEEN
YEARS I'VE BEEN A CUSTODY
CONSULTANT AND DIVORCE COACH.
SPECIALIZING IN HIGH CONFLICT
CASES WHERE IN I CONDUCTED
THREAT ASSESSMENTS AND SAFETY
PLANS WITH SOME OF MY CLIENTS
WEARING BULLET PROOF VESTS TO
COURT AND SETTING UP SECURITY
ROOMS. IN THEIR HOMES FOR THEIR
PROTECTION I PRAY THERE IS NO
ONE ELSE IN THIS ROOM THAT IS
EXPERIENCE THE IMPACT OF FAMILY
LAW THAT I HAVE. I PRAY THAT IS
THE CASE I STILL REMEMBER WHERE
I WAS STANDING AS THE SCREAMS OF
A YOUNG MOTHER RANG OUT AS SHE
WAS TOLD THAT HER TWO CHILDREN
FIVE AND SEVEN HAVE BEEN
MURDERED BY THEIR FATHER.
MENDING THEIR DIVORCE. THERE'S A
STORY OF A SIX YEAR OLD CHILD
WHO HUNG HIMSELF ON A
REFRIGERATOR DOOR USING HIS OWN
BELT AFTER HIS PARENTS DIVORCED.
AND THE MOTHER THAT LOCKED TWO
CHILDREN IN A SHED AND SET IT ON
FIRE KILLING ALL BUT ONE OF HER
CHILDREN. THERE IS NO ONE IN
THIS ROOM MORE THAN I THAT WANTS
TO SUPPORT PROTECT EVERY CHILD
AND EVERY FAMILY MEMBER. HOWEVER
WELL INTENDED THIS LOT IS IT
WILL HAVE. DEVASTATING
UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES BEYOND
YOUR COMPREHENSION THE HARMON
ABUSE TO CHILDREN AND FAMILIES
WILL INCREASE NOT DECREASE WITH
THE PASSAGE OF THIS LAW NOT TEN
FOLD BUT A HUNDRED FOLD I'M NOT
OBJECTING TO THE TRAINING I'M
NOT OBJECTING TO JUDGES BECOMING
MORE AWARE. OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
WHAT I'M OBJECTING TO IS THE
FACT THAT WE HAVE CHILDREN THAT
ARE GOING TO BE MORE MANIPULATED
PUT MORE IN THE MIDDLE. AND AS
THEIR PREFERENCE BECOMES KNOWN
TO THE COURT WITH THIS LAW THAT
THAT PREFERENCE WILL BE GIVEN TO
A CHILD. WE DON'T ALLOW CHILDREN
TO SET THEIR BAD TIMES WE DON'T
ALLOW CHILDREN TO GO TERMINAL
DAMAGE GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT
LONGER BECAUSE I GAVE THE
PROPONENTS LITTLE BIT LONGER BUT
I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU TO WRAP
UP. I WILL. OKAY THERE'S STILL
TIME FOR MUCH OF WHAT WAS
WRITTEN IN THIS LAW. THAT WILL
HELP CHILDREN AND FAMILIES AND
EVEN THE COURTS DEALING WITH
VIOLATION OF COURT ORDERS
INFORMATION THAT WAS IDENTIFIED
IN A BULLETIN ISSUED. BY THE
OFFICE OF THE JUVENILE JUSTICE
DEPARTMENT IN TWO THOUSAND ONE.
I URGE YOU TO SEE MORE TO LEARN
MORE ABOUT HOW THIS LAW COULD
DESTROY FAMILIES NOT THE
TRAINING NOT THE DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE. BUT THAT PREFERENCE IN
CLOSING. THERE WILL BE A TIME
WHEN WE LOOK BACK AT FAMILY LAW.
AND WONDER HOW WE WERE EVER SO
BARBARIC BECAUSE THERE'S NO
OTHER WORD FOR WHAT IS HAPPENING
TO CHILDREN'S AND FAMILIES.
DURING DIVORCE AND CUSTODY
PROCEEDINGS THAT WILL BE MADE
WORSE BY THIS LAW BECAUSE OF THE
OUTLAW OF REUNIFICATION
PROGRAMS. AND JUST. JUST TO
ADDRESS WHEN IT'S- ON ON THE FBI
WHEN THEY- LOCATE A CHILD HAS
BEEN TAKEN BY A PARENT OR OTHER
FAMILY MEMBER WRAP UP SO IT THIS
IS HOUSING RIGHT NOW MARK OKAY.
IS THEY USE REUNIFICATION
PROGRAM SIMILAR TO WHAT'S BEING
USED IN COURT. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU NEXT WITNESS. MY NAME'S RON
BEARGRASS. AS A FORMER MEDIATOR
AND THE SACRAMENTO SUPERIOR
COURT. I'M USED TO LISTENING TO
VERY EMOTIONAL ARGUMENTS AND
KEEPING AN OPEN MIND. BOTH
PARTIES AND GIVEN. EQUAL TIME
AND EQUAL EMOTIONAL. STATEMENT
WHEN MY TEN YEAR OLD DAUGHTER
TOLD HER MOTHER THAT SHE WANTED
TO COMMIT SUICIDE. HER MOTHER
TOLD TO DO IT AT MY HOUSE
BECAUSE IT THEN I COULD BE SEEN
AS THE BAD GUY. TWO YEARS LATER
AFTER MY DAUGHTER SECRETLY
TEXTED ME FROM MY MOTHER'S HOUSE
ASKING IF SHE COULD LIVE WITH ME
AND I WON BACK CUSTODY IN COURT.
SHE OVERDOSED TWICE ON FENTANYL
WHILE TRYING TO COPE WITH THE
TRAUMA HER MOTHER INFLICTED BY
COURSING OR TO REJECT ME. THIS
BILL SPECIFIES THAT THE COUNTING
SHALL PRIMARILY ADDRESS THE
REJECTED PARENTS CONTRIBUTION TO
THE RESISTANCE OF THE CHILD
BEFORE ORDERING THE OTHER PARENT
TO TAKE STEPS. TO IMPROVE THE
CHILD'S RELATIONSHIP WITH THE
REJECTED PARENT. WHAT STEPS DO
YOU THINK THE OTHER PARENT MIGHT
TAKE TO IMPROVE A RELATIONSHIP
THAT THEY'VE SYSTEMATICALLY
DESTROYED. COMBINE WHAT HAPPENED
TO PICK HE WAS INDEED TRAGIC
COME SORRY. BUT HAD NOTHING TO
DO WITH THE MEDIA THERAPY HAD A
RISK VIOLENCE ASSESSMENT BEEN
CONDUCTED ON P. HIS FATHER BY A
QUALIFIED PSYCHOLOGIST. IT MIGHT
NEVER HAPPEN. NEVERTHELESS
THEY'VE MANAGED TO INCLUDE THE
REMOVAL OF JUDICIAL DISCRETION
IN THIS BILL PREVENTING A JUDGE
MORGAN COUNTING SERVICES TO
REMEDIATE THE RESISTANCE OF A
CHILD TO CONNECT WITH THE
PARENT. SEEKING CUSTODY OF THE
CHILD IS TRANSPORTED TO THE
COUNTING AGAINST THEIR WILL. A
RESISTANCE PROVEN IN COURT TO
HAVE BEEN MOLDED AND SHAPED BY
THEIR ABUSER. I HEARD IT ALL THE
TIME FROM MY EX SHE TOLD ME MY
DAUGHTER DIDN'T WANT TO TALK TO
ME ON THE PHONE OR GO TO MY
HOUSE. THE EX CLAIMED SHE
COULDN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT
SAID IT WAS WHAT MY DAUGHTER
WANTED. HOW DID YOU DO THAT TO
MY DAUGHTER. FROM THE AGE OF TWO
TO TWELVE HER MOTHER TOLD HER
REPEATEDLY THAT I DIDN'T LOVE
HER. MOM MY DAUGHTER TOLD ME
LATER THAT WHEN SHE PROTESTED
THAT IT WASN'T TRUE. HI MOM
SHOUTED OBSCENITIES AT HER. THEY
ARE AS RELENTLESS AS THIS AWFUL
BILL. SB THREE THREE ONE RUBIO
SIX THE HIGH THE OTHER PARENT
FROM OBSERVATION RECRIMINATION
AND CRIMINAL SANCTION. WHEN IT
HAS FREQUENTLY BEEN PROVEN IN
COURT THAT THE USE COURSE OF
CONTROL TO FORCE THEIR CHILDREN
TO REJECT THEIR OTHER PARA POP.
YEAH S. IRONICALLY SB ELEVEN
FORTY ONE RUBIO PASSED STATES
THAT IN THE WARD OF CHILD
CUSTODY TO A PARTY WAS ENGAGING
CUT COURSE OF CONTROL. IS
DETRIMENTAL TO THE BEST INTEREST
OF THE CHILD. REJECT THE
SMOKESCREEN BURBANK PLEASE THANK
YOU FURTHER. WE'RE GONNA CONDUCT
THE- PROFESSIONALLY. ANY FURTHER
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION. I'M
GOOD AFTERNOON I'M GENERALLY
WITH THE CALIFORNIA
PSYCHOLOGICAL ASSOCIATION WE'RE
NOT. OPPOSED TO THE BILL WE JUST
WANTED TO RECOGNIZE THAT WE'VE
BEEN AND- LONG OUR MULTIPLE HOUR
CONVERSATIONS WITH THE AUTHOR
SPONSOR. I THINK THAT THAT
COMMITTEES AMENDMENTS MOVE THE
BILL INTO- A MUCH BETTER PLACE
THAN IT WAS- AND WE ARE LOOKING
FORWARD TO CONTINUING THE
CONVERSATION WE'RE TRYING TO.
BALANCE SAFETY WITH A COURT
ACTION. TRACY KENNY ON BEHALF
THE JUDICIAL COUNCIL WERE OPPOSE
UNLESS AMENDED ON SEPARATION OF
POWERS ISSUE THANK YOU. BUT I
WOULD FIGURE PRIME IN BEHALF OF
SERAPH. AT THE BILL PROTECTS A
LOT OF CHILDREN FROM ABUSE. BUT
ALSO SACRIFICES MANY OTHER
CHILDREN SCHEDULE AMOS NAME AN
ORGANIZATION ONLY A I WOULD SAY
GET HIMSELF. THANK YOU. I'M GREG
DUNNE WOODY I'M A CALIFORNIA
PROTECTIVE PARENT AND SURVIVOR.
I'M WITH PROTECTING EVERYONE
FROM ABUSE. I STRONGLY OPPOSE
THANK YOU PASS IS MANAGED AS
TODAY I STRONGLY OPPOSE AMENDING
AND- THANK YOU THANK YOU. ANY
FURTHER WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION
. SEEN NONE WE HAVE A MOTION AND
WE HAVE A SECOND ANY COMMENTS
FROM QUESTIONS COMES FROM
COMMITTEE. MR SALIH. TO THE
SENATOR THANK YOU FOR BRINGING
THIS AND PROVIDING A VOICE TO
VICTIMS AT SOMETHING WE FRANKLY
NEED MORE OF UP HERE- TO PICK
HIS MOM I AM SO SORRY. THAT THE
SYSTEM FAILED YOU I'M SORRY. I
HAVE SEEN AS OF W. D. A. I HAVE
SEEN THE SYSTEM REPEATEDLY
FAILED DOMESTIC VIOLENCE VICTIMS
AND CHILD ABUSE VICTIMS ALL THE
TIME. WE HAVE TO DO BETTER WE
JUST HAVE TO WITH SO MANY
EXAMPLES WHETHER IT'S GABRIEL
FERNANDEZ IN LOS ANGELES OR THE
TURPIN KIDS IN RIVERSIDE COUNTY
MY COUNTY. THERE'S A DOCUMENTARY
JUST CAME OUT ABOUT A LITTLE
GIRL NAMED MAYA. AND HOW THE
STATE OF FLORIDA THAT ABUSE THAT
PROCESS AS WELL THERE'S A LOT OF
COMPLACENCY INCOMPETENCE AND
FRANKLY LAZINESS IN OUR
BUREAUCRACIES AND THERE'S NO
ACCOUNTABILITY AND NOBODY WANTS
TO DO THE HARD WORK OF DOING THE
INVESTIGATIONS AND FIGURE OUT
WHAT'S TRUE AND WHAT'S NOT A LOT
OF TIMES THE SYSTEM JUST
DEFAULTS. TO SPLIT CUSTODY AND
REUNIFICATION I CANNOT IMAGINE
YOUR SON BEING RIPPED AWAY FROM
YOU. AND EXCLUDED FROM YOU YOUR
HIS PROTECTOR AND HANDED OVER TO
THIS ANIMAL THIS ANIMAL-
SUFFOCATED HIM WITH A JACKET AND
THREW HIM IN THE FOREST LIKE
DIED DISCARDED. PERSON I CANNOT
IMAGINE IT. AND FOR US TO HAVE A
PROCESS IN THIS STATE TO PROVIDE
THIS REUNIFICATION TREATMENT
WHICH I NEVER HEARD OF IT IS
FRANKLY BARBARIC. THAT WE REFER
PEOPLE AWAY FROM THEIR KIDS YOU
CAN HAVE COUNSELING WE CAN
ADDRESS THE COUNSELING I'M SURE
THEIR PROFESSIONAL COUNSELORS
THAT WILL DEAL WITH MANIPULATIVE
PARENTS. BUT THIS TREATMENT IS
BARBARIC WE CAN HAVE THIS. AND I
HOPE YOUR EX HUSBAND ROTS IN
PRISON HE ROTS IN HELL. AND I
WILL SUPPORT THIS. I LIKE TO BE
A CO AUTHOR THANK YOU WE HAVE.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND
SEEN NO FURTHER QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS FROM THE COMMITTEE.
SORRY BE MAKE CLOSE THANK YOU
THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS- AND
I JUST WANT TO CARE FOR THE
RECORD- YOU KNOW I THINK IT WAS
STATED THAT THIS TAKES-
DISCRETION FROM THE COURT IT
DOES NOT THE COURTS STILL HAVE
DISCRETION WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO
BAN IS THE ON REGULATE IT A
PRACTICE OF WRAPPING A CHILD
AWAY FROM THEIR- SAFE HOME THEIR
COMMUNITY THEIR TEACHERS OR
FRIENDS. I DON'T BELIEVE ANYBODY
HERE THINKS IT'S OKAY TO JUST
DISAPPEAR FROM NINE MONTHS WITH
STRANGERS. AND BE THREATENED AND
CHORUS SO I ASK THAT YOU PLEASE
VOTE ON. THE STOCK THANK YOU
THANK YOU EMOTIONS MOTIONS TO
PASS AS AMENDED TO THE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE ASK
COURT TO PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
MAIENSCHEIN HI MAIENSCHEIN I
SALIH ARE YOU SPEAKER. A CBI
CONNELLY. CONNOLLY I DIXON.
DIXON I ANY. HANEY I KALRA. CAR
I PUT. CHECKER I'D- HAPPEN I
REYES. FIVE REYES ICE. SANCHEZ I
AM A CAN. MECHANICAL YOUR BILL
IS. THE YOU. THANK AND JUST ASK
EVERYBODY. X. QUIET AS WE CAN TO
THE OF THE CAN. WE ARE GONNA DO
. AT. AND WE HAVE A DOG CALL.
YEAH YEAH. I WOULD. AND. I ASKED
PEOPLE TO PLEASE ACCEPT ROOM
QUIETLY. THANK YOU. BURKE- OKAY
WE'LL GO AHEAD WE HAVE ONE
MATTER ON CALL WHEN I DO ADD ONS
I DO WANT TO MAKE JUST A COUPLE
VERY BRIEF COMMENTS- THIS OUR
LAST COMMITTEE HEARING I WANT TO
THANK THIS COMMITTEE THIS WAS A
LOT OF EXCELLENT WORK. ON A LOT
OF VERY TOUGH ISSUES AND I WANT
TO THANK THE COMMITTEE FOR THEIR
ATTENTIVENESS- FOR THE GOOD WORK
THAT WE ALL DID- AS A COMMITTEE
THIS YEAR I WANT TO RECOGNIZE
AND THANK COMMITTEE STAFF
ALLISON MACK MANUELA SHERON TOM-
EVERYBODY WHO WHO DID SO MUCH-
THIS YEAR TO MAKE THIS.
COMMITTEE WAR. OKAY SIR THANK
YOU TO EVERYBODY- AND THEN WITH
THAT WE'LL START WITH OUR FIRST
BILL THAT'S ON CALL. WHICH IS
ITEM NUMBER. TEN I REMEMBER TEN
SB SIX TWENTY SEVEN SMALL THE
SMALLER CUEVAS ASK THE COURT TO
PLEASE OPEN THE ROLL CALL ABSENT
MEMBERS. HANEY I. THE KENNER. WE
CAN ARRIVE THAT BILL IS OUT NOW
WE'RE GONNA START IN ORDER WITH
YOU MISTER. WEST WITH THE
CONSENT AGENDA AT WILL CALL THE
ABSENT MEMBERS ASK THE COURT TO
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. DIXON
DIXON I KALRA. CAN SET THAT UP.
KALRA FIVE. I AM NUMBER ONE SB
THIRTY FIVE AMBERG. DIXON DIXON
I KALRA. THE CHECK OUT. THE
CHECKER I DON'T NEVER TO SB
FORTY- BURKE. DIXON DIXON NOW
KALRA HI KALRA I REMEMBER THREE
SB FORTY THREE EGGMAN. REYES.
THE ITEM NUMBER FOR SB SEVENTY
ONE AMBERG. DIXON DIXON I AM.
KALRA RIGHT KALRA. I AM NUMBER
FIVE S. B. TWO SIXTY SEVEN
EGGMAN. ESCORT KALRA REYES.
REYES HI. ITEM NUMBER SIX WE
HAVE EVERYBODY ON ITEM SIX ITEM
NUMBER SEVEN SB THREE NINETY
NINE WAHHAB. DIXON SIX AND NO
KALRA KALRA I PUT SECOND. YEAH I
SEE IT HERE- ITEM NUMBER EIGHT
SB FORTY SEVEN ATKINS. HANEY
HANEY I CAN- MCCANN ON. I DON'T
NINE S. B. SIXTY SEVEN
DROWSINESS CALL THE ROLL. DIXON
DIXON NO SEVEN FIVE I MEAN. ON
FIVE SIX SEVEN YEAH HI HAPPEN
ARE. NUMBER TEN I TEN B. TO
SEVENTHS CUEVAS ESCORT TO GOT
EVERYBODY S. B. WILL- NUMBER S.
SIX OF FOUR AS THE COLORADO
DIXON DIXON NOW. AND THEN ITEM
NUMBER TWELVE SB SEVEN NINETY
FIVE STERN AS A CLERK TO CALL
THE ROLL HANEY. HANEY I. CAN
RECKONER. I DON'T. THINK
SECRETARY- AND THANK FOR THAT
OUT I'D LIKE TO COME- PLEASE
THANK COMMITTEE SECRETARIES AND
ALSO THINK THE CONSULTANT WELL
THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH THAT
ADJOURNS TODAY JUDICIARY HEARING
. FOR THIS IS NOT.