ALL RIGHT. OKAY WE ARE GOING- GO
A AND GETS AND HOPE THAT- AND I
HOPE THE WE A PEOPLE RUNNING
JOIN US SOON START AS A SEPT-
WELCOME THE ASSEMBLY PRIVACY AND
FOR HEARING US MEMBER GABRIEL IS
NOT HERE TODAY SO I WILL BE
SERVING AS COMMITTEE CHAIR IN
HIS PLACE. I WOULD LIKE TO
ACKNOWLEDGE THAT ASSEMBLY MEMBER
KALRA WILL BE A FILLING OR
COMMITTEE VACANCY DURING
ASSEMBLY MEMBER GABRIEL'S
ABSENCE TODAY- TO EFFECTIVELY
MANAGE OUR TIME TODAY WE WILL
THE LIMITING TESTIMONY TO TWO
WITNESSES FOR SUPPORT TWO
WITNESSES OR OPPOSITION ON EACH
BILL EACH WITNESS WILL BE
ALLOWED THREE MINUTES TO PRESENT
THEIR TESTIMONY. AFTER SUPPORT
WITNESSES CONCLUDE THEIR
TESTIMONY THE COMMITTEE WILL
CALL ADDITIONAL SUPPORTERS NO
FURTHER TESTIMONY WILL BE
PERMITTED ADDITIONAL SUPPORTERS
MAY ONLY STATE THEIR NAME
AFFILIATION OF POSITION FOR THE
RECORD THE SAME PROCESS WILL BE
FOLLOWED FOR THE OPPOSITION FOR
THIS HEARING AND UNTIL FURTHER
NOTICE THE COMMITTEE WILL BE
RETURNING TO IN PERSON TESTIMONY
ONLY AS REFLECTED. IN THE FILE
NOTICE I'D LIKE TO KNOW THAT- WE
ARE ACCEPTING WRITTEN TESTIMONY
THROUGH THAT POSITION LETTER
PORTAL ON THE COMMITTEE'S
WEBSITE WE HAVE TWO BILLS AND
ONE RESOLUTION ON THE AGENDA
TODAY THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION
HAS BEEN APPROVED FOR CONSENT
ACR NINETY SIX SENATOR HOOVER-
AS- ASSEMBLY MEMBER WHO. YEAH
ASSEMBLY HOOVER. AND WE CANNOT
DO. ANY OF THIS- QUORUM BUSINESS
YES. SO WE ARE GOING TO WE HAVE
OF. SENATOR SKINNER. WHO IS
GOING TO BE PRESENTING OF BOTH
OF OUR BILLS TODAY. WE STILL DO
NOT HAVE. A QUORUM SO OF. THE
FIRST OF FILE ITEM IS NUMBER ONE
S. B. FOUR SEVENTY EIGHT WHICH
IS. SENATOR DODD. AND I WAS
GONNA PRESENTED WHICH- OKAY WITH
YOU ASPEN EIGHTY FIRSTS WHEN YOU
WHAT YOU TO THAT AND HE PLEASE
WITH THE G. PERMISSION WITH THE
- PER. OF WILL GO TO AT SIX A-
FILE ITEM TO- SENATOR SKINNER
GREAT THANK YOU SO MUCH MAN NA.
I AM PLEASED TO PERSON SB SIX. I
THINK ARE MANY ARE AWARE THAT WE
- ARE FACING ON AND IN URGENT
CRISIS. AMONG STAR- KIDS WHERE
THEY'RE IS HIGH LEVEL OF SO
MEDIA ADDICTION THE NUMBERS
ABOUT PER DAY THAT MANY OF OUR
YOUNG PEOPLE SPEND ON AVERAGE ON
SOCIAL MEDIA IS HOME PIANE.
THESE MIKE IN BUT IS THE DATA IS
. THERE'S HIGH LEVELS OF TEENS.
AND THOSE- THAT IN TO NINETEEN
SUICIDE ONCE PEOPLE THINK OF
ROUTE THE PAN. HAVE BEEN
STEADILY AND- OVER THE PAST TEN
TO TWELVE YEARS AND IN FACT-
BEGAN WITH THE ON SET THAT
INCREASE WITH THE ONSET OF A
MUCH OF THE SOCIAL MEDIA WE ALSO
HAVE- EVIDENCE OF THE VERY EASY
ABILITY FOR ANYONE WHICH
INCLUDES OUR USE. TO PURCHASE
FENTANYL AND OTHER ILLEGAL
SUBSTANCES ON VIA SOCIAL MEDIA
SITES AS WELL AS ILLEGAL
FIREARMS AND IN FACT ON THE
ILLEGAL SUBSTANCES LIKE FENTANYL
LACED DRUGS IT IS QUICKER TO
PROCURE SUCH A SUBSTANCE ON
SOCIAL MEDIA THAN IT IS TO USE
YOUR TO APP AND GET YOUR LIFT
HER UBER DRIVER- RESEARCH. IF WE
LOOK AT TEENAGE GIRLS IN
PARTICULAR OR- ADOLESCENT GIRLS
. THAT RESEARCHERS POSE AS TEEN
GIRLS SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS
WERE DIRECTED TO COMMENTED ON
EATING DISORDERS EVERY THIRTY
NINE SECONDS. PLUS OF ANY
REQUEST OR CONTENT REQUEST BY
THE TEAM SO IN OTHER WORDS JUST
TO. ALGORITHM THAT FEATURE
DESIGNED THE PLATFORM DIRECTED
THAT TEEN GIRL TO EATING
DISORDER CONTENT EVERY THIRTY
NINE SECONDS AND TWO SUICIDE
ORIENTED CONTENT ARE LESS
FREQUENTLY BUT STILL WITH HIGH
FREQUENCY. WHAT IS SB SIX CD DE
DO IT BASICALLY MAKES IT
UNLAWFUL FOR A SOCIAL MEDIA
PLATFORM TO USE TO A FEATURE
THAT THEY CONTROL WHETHER TO
DESIGN AN ALGORITHM OR OTHER
FEATURE. THAT WOULD CAUSE CHILD
USERS TO INFLICT HARM ON
THEMSELVES OR OTHERS AND
EXPERIENCE DICTION TO THE
PLATFORM AND A VARIETY OF OTHER
THINGS. ENACT THE BILL DOES NOT
HAVE A PRIVATE RIGHT OF ACTION
IT IS SOLELY ENFORCEABLE BY OUR
PUBLIC- PROSECUTORS WEATHERED
THE AG'S OFFICE OR DA'S OFFICE.
AND THERE'S THE SAME PART OF
HARPER FROM LIABILITY IF THE
PLATFORM AUDITS ITS PRACTICES
AND IF IDENTIFYING THAT IT'S A
DESIGN FEATURE IS RESULTING IN
THIS. IT SHOWS THAT IT HAS
ADJUSTED THAT PRACTICE IN
WITHOUT I WOULD LIKE MY
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT I HAVE
NANCY MCGEE WHO IS THE
SUPERINTENDENT OF SCHOOLS FOR
SAN MATTEO COUNTY. AND ANTHONY
LIU WHO IS THE DEPUTY AG AT THE
OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE AFFAIRS.
FOR OUR DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE.
THANK YOU SENATORS GET OUT MY
CHAIR HIS TEAM MEMBERS- I'M
NANCY MAKE ALLY AT. HAVING
DEDICATE TWENTY YEARS AS I
SCHOOL T. AND ANOTHER TWENTY AS
A SCHOOL LIBRARIAN DISTRICT AND
COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. I WAS
ELECTED SAN MATEO COUNTY
SUPERINTENDENT IN TWO THOUSAND
EIGHTEEN. AND I'M HERE TO URGE
SUPPORT FOR SB SIX EIGHTY
SENATOR SKINNER'S PROPOSED
LEGISLATION. PROHIBITING SOCIAL
MEDIA COMPANIES FROM DESIGNING
PLATFORMS THAT CAUSE HARM TO YOU
. AS A TEACHER I CAN ATTEST TO
HOW TECHNOLOGY CAN ENHANCE
INSTRUCTION. AT THE SAME TIME AS
AN EDUCATION LEADER I CONTEND
DAILY WITH THE MENTAL HEALTH
CRISIS GRIPPING OUR YOUTH. IN
FACT ONLY WEEKS AGO THE US
SURGEON GENERAL RELEASED AN
ADVISORY ON THE IMPACTS OF
SOCIAL MEDIA ON YOU. DESPITE THE
MANY WAYS IT POSES A RISK. 95%
OF THIRTEEN TO SEVENTEEN YEAR
OLDS REPORT USING SOCIAL MEDIA
AND MORE THAN A THIRD SAY THEY
USE SOCIAL MEDIA ALMOST
CONSTANTLY. MORE CONCERNING THE
ADVISORY REPORTS ONE THIRD OR
MORE OF GIRLS AGE ELEVEN TO
FIFTEEN SAY THEY FEEL ADDICTED
TO CERTAIN SOCIAL MEDIA
PLATFORMS. OUR SCHOOLS ARE NOT
SPARED THESE IMPACTS FOR BETTER
OR WORSE SOCIAL MEDIA DRIVEN
CULTURE INFLUENCES STUDENT
BEHAVIOR. HOW THEY TREAT OTHERS
AND THEMSELVES AND HOW THEY SHOW
UP FOR LEARNING. IT'S RARE TO
MEET A PARENT WHO DOESN'T SHARE
WORRIES ABOUT THEIR CHILD'S
ANXIETY. I HEAR FROM PARENTS WHO
TRIED EVERY TRICK IN THE BOOK TO
ESTABLISH CLEAR BOUNDARIES
BETWEEN THEIR CHILDREN AND THEIR
DEVICES OFTEN WITH LIMITED. OR
AT LEAST COMBATIVE SUCCESS. SB
SIX EIGHTY PROVIDES AN ON RAMP
TO ACTION. WE CANNOT PUT THE
SOLELY ON OUR FAMILIES AND OUR
SCHOOLS. SOCIAL MEDIA COMPANIES
CAN PRIORITIZE USER WELL BEING
OVER METRICS AND STILL PROFIT.
AS GREAT INNOVATORS THEY CAN AND
SHOULD IMPLEMENT SAFEGUARDS TO
PROTECT YOU AGAINST ADDICTIVE
ALGORITHMS. SB SIX EIGHTY WOULD
BE HISTORIC TOWARDS ESTABLISHING
COMMON SENSE REGULATIONS THAT
PROTECT OUR GREATEST RESOURCE
CALIFORNIA STUDENTS TODAY I URGE
YOUR SUPPORT FOR THIS IMPORTANT
LEGISLATION SB SIX EIGHTY THANK
YOU FOR LISTENING. THANK YOU. A
GOOD AFTERNOON MY NAME IS
ANTHONY LEAVE W. AG FOR THE
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE OFFICE OF
LEGISLATIVE AFFAIRS. MY TWENTY
GENERAL FUND THAT'S PLEASED TO
SPONSOR SB SIX EIGHTY THANKS
SENATOR SKINNER FOR LEADING ON
THIS IMPORTANT LEGISLATION TO
PROTECT THE MENTAL AND PHYSICAL
HEALTH OF CALIFORNIA CHILDREN.
AS CHILDREN SPEND MORE TIME ON
SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS IT IS
APPARENT THAT THE USE OF SOCIAL
MEDIA PLATFORMS CAN LEAD TO
HARMFUL OUTCOMES THE CHILDREN IN
A NUMBER OF WAYS. FOR EXAMPLE
RESEARCH SHOWS SOCIAL MEDIA
PLATFORM ADDICTION HAS A
NEGATIVE IMPACT ON HEALTHY
SOCIALIZATION AND CHILDREN I
COULD CHECK WITH THE FEELINGS OF
SOCIAL ISOLATION IN YOUNG PEOPLE
. OTHER RESEARCH INDICATES THAT
TIME SPENT ON SOCIAL MEDIA IS
CORRELATED WITH THE RATES OF
SUICIDE AND DEPRESSION AMONG
TEENS ESPECIALLY GIRLS. SOCIAL
MEDIA ADDICTION AND ITS
RESULTANT HARMS ARE URGENT
THREAT. TO CALIFORNIA'S CHILDREN
AN ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE WE
ARE TACKLING THIS THREAT DALY.
AND SB SIX EIGHTY WOULD GIVE
CALIFORNIA LAW ENFORCEMENT
IMPORTANT NEW TOOL TO PROTECT
OUR CHILDREN. ATTORNEY GENERAL
BONTA REAFFIRMS THE NEED FOR
STRONG SAFEGUARDS IN CALIFORNIA
THAT PROTECT NOT ONLY THE
PRIVACY RIGHTS OF CHILDREN. THAT
ALSO ADDRESS THE REAL
DEMONSTRATED HARMS TO THE
PHYSICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH OF
CHILDREN ASSOCIATED WITH THE USE
OF SOCIAL MEDIA. FOR THESE
REASONS THE AGS PLEASED TO
SPONSOR SB SIX EIGHTY ENCOURAGES
HIGH TODAY TO ENSURE CALIFORNIA
HAS STRONG PROTECTIONS FOR
CHILDREN ONLINE. WITH ME FOR A
COLLEAGUE ELLEN R. PLUMAS
AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY.
TECHNICAL QUESTIONS ABOUT THE
BILL. LOVE YOUR WITNESSES. HELLO
ALONG WITH THE CHILD. OKAY HOW
CAN WE NO. I'M OF THE WE GO ON
TO OTHER IN SUPPORT OF JUST LIKE
TO HAVE SEX SAVAGE CORE. IRWIN
HERE- IRWIN HERE PATTERSON PLANS
HERE AMERICA HIM BENNETT A SALIH
ASSAILING. FONG FONG HERE KALRA
. CALL HERE. UNTIL HE HAPPEN
WICKS WILSON. WILSON. ALL RIGHT
WE- DO HAVE A AND- I TO CALL
OTHER WITNESS IN THE ROOM
INSTEAD. PLEASE GOOD AFTERNOON
MANAGER MEMBERS RUGGERO EXIT
DIRECTOR OF CONSUMER. OF AND OF
THE BILL THANK YOU. GOOD
AFTERNOON TURN OVER KIM'S STONE
ADVOCACY ON BEHALF OF THE
DISTRICT ATTORNEYS ASSIST IN-
GOOD SAM OF MAN- HERE AND- HI
GOOD AFTERNOON LISTA ON OF THE-
OUT. INSTITUTE IN STRONG TEAM
YOU. GET A STELLA JOHN REASON
GRADUATE SEEKING SHE'S YOUR HIGH
SCHOOL HERE IN SUPPORT. GOOD
AFTERNOON I LEAST I'LL IF I HIGH
SCHOOL STUDENTS HIGH SCHOOL
HERE- URGE YOU TO SIX EIGHTY TWO
TEENS AND YOUTH ARE THANK YOU.
GOOD AFTERNOON NORTH SMITH
RESIDENT OF. SHE DOES THE AFTER
THIS AND OF. CAN BE PURE WITH
COMMENTS MEDIA ALSO BEHALF OF
HALF STORY JEWISH FAMILY
CHILDREN'S SERVICES ATTEMPT.
PARENTS TELEVISION AND ACCOUNTS
IN CROSS COUNTERPARTS CAL IN
STRONG SUPPORT THANK YOU. GOOD
AFTERNOON KATHY VAN AUSTIN
BEHALF THE ASSOCIATION OF THE
WOMEN CAL. STRONG SUPPORTER.
THANK YOU OF MUCH DO WE HAVE-
WITNESSES SPEAKING AND
OPPOSITION. WHAT KIND. YEAH.
GOOD AFTERNOON. THANK YOU MADAM
CHAIR MEMBERS WE ANY TALKING
WITH TECH THAT AND WE ARE
RESPECTFULLY OPPOSED TO SB SIX
EIGHTY WE FULLY SUPPORT THE GOAL
OF THIS BILL TO PROTECT CHILD
USERS ON SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS
UNFORTUNATELY IN ADDITION TO
BEING FEDERALLY PREEMPTED UNDER
SECTION TWO THIRTY AND RAISING
FIRST AMENDMENT CONCERNS THE
SAFE HARBOR IN THIS BILL IS
UNUSABLE. SB SIX EIGHTY
PROHIBITS ANY DESIGNS FEATURES
OR ALGORITHMS THAT COULD CAUSE A
CHILD USER TO TAKE CERTAIN
ACTIONS BUT THE BILL IS
INCREDIBLY UNCLEAR ABOUT HOW
THAT CAUSATION HAPPENS ONE OF
THE ACTION SUBJECT TO LIABILITY
IS IF A CHILD DEVELOPS AN EATING
DISORDER BUT IT'S FAIR TO ASK
UNDER THIS BILL WOULD FUELING A
WORKOUT VIDEO BE CONSIDERED TO
TRIGGER AN EATING DISORDER. DOES
BECAUSE MEAN THAT THE PLATFORM
IS THE ONLY FACTOR THAT CAUSED
THE EATING DISORDER A
CONTRIBUTING FACTOR A
SUBSTANTIAL FACTOR AND WITHOUT
APPLY TO ALL CHILD USERS ANY
CHILD USER OR THE AVERAGE CHILD
USER WHAT ABOUT CONTENT RELATED
TO RECOVERING FROM AN EATING
DISORDER THAT'S MEANT TO BE
EMPOWERING BUT MAY ACTUALLY BE
TRIGGERING FOR SOME CHILD USERS.
BECAUSE OF THESE AMBIGUITIES THE
SAFE HARBOR IS UNUSABLE SHOULD
THE PLATFORM KNOW THAT THE USER
WHAT DEVELOPING EATING DISORDER
BECAUSE OF A NEWS FEED. THE
DESIGN AND ARE NOT LIMITED TO
SHOWING JUST ONE TYPE OF CONTENT
AND THIS IS WHY THEY WILL ALMOST
ALWAYS SCOPE IN FAR MORE THAN
WHAT'S BEING TARGETED IN THIS
BILL AND THIS IS WHY IT'S
IMPOSSIBLE FOR PLATFORMS TO
SUFFICIENTLY CORRECT THESE KINDS
OF CORE FEATURES WITHOUT
COMPLETELY DISMANTLING OF
PLATFORMS FUNDAMENTAL DESIGN OR
LIMITING OR RESTRICTING ACCESS
FOR CHILD USERS. FINALLY THE
THREAT OF LIABILITY WILL LEAD
PLATFORMS OVER REMOVE CONTENT
SILENCING LAWFUL SPEECH. WHILE
ATTEMPTING TO PROTECT ALL USERS
FROM HARM THIS BILL WOULD IN
FACT HARM OTHER CHILD USERS
INCLUDING TEENS WHO FIND THEIR
ONLY WELCOMING AND SAFE
COMMUNITIES TO BE ON THESE
PLATFORMS. AGAIN WE APPRECIATE
AND SUPPORT THE INTENT OF THIS
BILL FOR THESE REASONS WE MUST
RESPECTFULLY OPPOSE SB SIX ET.
THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIR
IRWIN AND MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE I'M JUST MINORS LEGAL
ADVOCACY COUNCIL FOR CHAMBER
PROGRESS A TECH COALITION
PROMOTING EQUITABLE ACCESS. TO
TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCES FOR ALL
AMERICANS. TODAY I'M HERE TO
VOICE CHAMBER PROGRESSES
OPPOSITION TO SB SIX EIGHTY
WHICH DESPITE ITS STATED GOAL OF
SAFEGUARDING CHILDREN WILL HAVE
UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES THAT
UNDERMINE THE SUBJECTIVE. THE
BILL'S BIG DEFINITION OF
ADDICTION BELIEVE PLATFORMS TO
MAKE IMPOSSIBLE DECISIONS ABOUT
WHAT KIDS SHOULD SEE ONLINE.
GIVEN THE BILL'S LIABILITY
PROVISIONS PLATFORMS MAY CHOOSE
TO RESTRICT ACCESS TO CALIFORNIA
YOUTH DISPROPORTIONATELY
IMPACTING MARGINALIZED TEENS
INCLUDING LGBTQ PLUS YOU'RE-
SEEKING SUPPORT AND TEENS IN
NEED OF REPRODUCTIVE AND SEXUAL
HEALTH INFORMATION. INDEED A
RECENT PEW STUDY FOUND THAT THE
MAJORITY OF TEENS CONSIDER
SOCIAL MEDIA A SOCIAL LIFELINE.
SB SIX EIGHTIES RESTRICTIONS ON
DESIGNS ALGORITHMS AND FEATURES
RELATED TO SELF HARM WILL
INADVERTENTLY LIMIT ACCESS TO
CRUCIAL SELF HELP RESOURCES THIS
INCLUDES INFORMATION ON
RECOGNIZING WARNING SIGNS FOR
SUICIDE. AND ALGORITHMS THAT
REDIRECT AT RISK USERS TO
IMMEDIATE HELP LIKE THE SUICIDE
HOTLINE. THE BILL SIMILARLY
HAMPERS PLATFORMS ABILITY TO
GUIDE CHILD USERS TOWARDS
POSITIVE CONTENT WHEN SEARCHING
FOR INFORMATION ON DISORDERED
EATING. LAST WEEK SB SIX EIGHTY
WILL LIKELY RESULT IN THE
REMOVAL OF SUBSTANCE ABUSE
RESOURCES FROM LIBRARIES
PHARMACIES AND OTHER
ORGANIZATIONS THIS INCLUDES
INFORMATION ON IDENTIFYING SIGNS
OF DRUG USE IN OBTAINING
LIFESAVING PRODUCTS LIKE NOR
CAN. CONSEQUENTLY INDIVIDUALS
MAY RESORT TO ON RELIABLE
SOURCES INCREASING THE RISKS
ASSOCIATED WITH SUBSTANCE ABUSE.
WE RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF
PROTECTING YOUNG PEOPLE ONLINE
PLATFORMS CONSISTENTLY IMPROVED
SAFETY MEASURES WOULD BE
INCIDENTS IN DESIGNS ALGORITHMS
AND FEATURES. IMPROVEMENTS WHICH
SB SIX EIGHTY WOULD DIRECTLY
UNDERMINE WELL THE INTENTION
BEHIND SB SIX EIGHTY IS
COMMENDABLE BE UNINTENDED
CONSEQUENCES CANNOT BE IGNORED
WE URGE THE COMMITTEE TO
RECONSIDER THE BILL KNOWING THE
POTENTIAL HARMS IT WILL CAUSE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND
CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH AND I DO WE HAVE OTHER
WITNESSES IN THE ROOM IN
OPPOSITION. HI JADI WITH OAKLAND
PRIVACY IN OPPOSITION OF SB SIX
EIGHTY. GOOD AFTERNOON CHEN
MEMBERS KNEW ME BUT JOHN ON
BEHALF OF THE COMPUTER AND
COMMUNICATIONS INDUSTRY
ASSOCIATION AND RESPECTFUL
POSITION. GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIR
MEMBERS CAME TO ME TRAIL BEHALF
OF THAT CHOICE IN OPPOSITION.
BACKGROUND CHAIR MEMBERS ROCKY
ON YOUR BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
CHAMBER OF COMMERCE RESPECTFULLY
OPPOSE THANK YOU. ANGELOPOULOS
JUSTICE ASSOCIATION CALIFORNIA
REPUBLICAN OPPOSITION. TIM LYNCH
ON BEHALF OF THE ENTERTAINMENT
SOFTWARE ASSOCIATION WITH
APOLOGIES TO THE AUTHOR AND THE
COMMITTEE WERE LABOUR THEIR
LETTER BUT WE ARE PLEASED WITH
ALL. REYES HAD WE HAVE COMMENTS
FROM THE COMMITTEE COMMENTS OR
QUESTIONS. SOME OF ASSEMBLY
MEMBER LOWENTHAL. CAN BE A
LITTLE LENGTHY HERE MADAM CHAIR
FORGIVE ME- THE VERY FIRST THING
I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS COMMANDS
THE SENATOR FOR BRINGING THIS
VERY VERY IMPORTANT LEGISLATION
FORWARD. I'M LIVING THIS RIGHT
NOW. THE DAD OF THREE ADOLESCENT
GIRLS I'M IN THIS AND- WITH
RESPECT TO THE OPPOSITION THE
WORDS I HAVE FOR YOU OUR SHAME
ON YOU. SHAME ON YOU. FOR TRYING
TO THROW THE BABY OUT WITH THE
BATHWATER. I COME FROM A CAREER
IN TACK SOME OF THE GREATEST
MINDS WE HAVE IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA AND TACK. AND WE DO
NOT HAVE TO PUT AT RISK THESE
UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES. THE
LEVELS OF SOPHISTICATION THAT
CAN BE DRAWN IN THIS ARTIFICIAL
INTELLIGENCE PRECLUDE THE VERY
THINGS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
I HAVE COMPLETE AND TOTAL FAITH
IN OUR TECH COMMUNITY. FOR DOING
THE RIGHT THING. AND PROTECTING
OUR YOUTH AND MEASURING THE
RIGHT THING. LET'S BE HONEST AS
TO WHY WE'RE ACTUALLY WANTING TO
DO THIS WE'RE WANTING TO DO THIS
FOR THE SENATOR NEEDS TO BRING
THIS FORWARD BECAUSE OUR FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT IS FAILING TO ACT.
STRAIGHT UP. WE HAVE A LACK OF
ROBUST AGE VERIFICATION SYSTEMS
ACROSS ALL PLATFORMS IN OTHER
COUNTRIES THERE ARE. FOR THE
VERY SAME SOCIAL NETWORKS. WE
LACK ROBUST AGE VERIFICATION
SYSTEMS- WE DON'T HAVE ANY
ACTION DESPITE THIS INCREDIBLE.
CHANGE IN THE MENTAL AND
EMOTIONAL HEALTH OF OUR GIRLS IN
THIS STATE I I'M I'M AUTHORING A
BILL CALLED AB TEN. THAT HAS TO
DO WITH BODY SHAMING- IN OUR
PUBLIC SCHOOLS NOW TO POLICY
CURRICULA AROUND BODY SHAMING IN
OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS. BECAUSE OF
THE TOTAL INCOMPLETE CHANGE IN
BEHAVIOR. AMONGST GIRLS. OUR IN
OUR SCHOOLS RIGHT NOW AS A
RESULT OF WHAT'S HAPPENING ON
SOCIAL MEDIA NETWORKS. AND I'VE
SEEN IN MY CHILDREN SOCIAL MEDIA
AT THE PRESENTATION OF DIET
PILLS. OF OTHER THINGS. THAT
MAKE THEM QUESTION. THEIR OWN
SELF WORTH AND THEIR OWN BODY
IMAGE I'VE SEEN IT. FIRST HAND.
IT IS TOTALLY AND COMPLETELY
INAPPROPRIATE. AND IF YOU THINK
ABOUT THE INCENTIVES UNDER WHICH
THESE NETWORKS ARE OPERATING.
WE'RE NOT. THE CUSTOMER AND
SOCIAL MEDIA WE'RE THE PRODUCT
EVERYONE. THE CUSTOMER ARE
ACTUALLY THE AD NETWORKS. THAT
ARE PAYING FOR THIS VERY VERY
RICH AND STICKING MEDIA AND THE
MORE STICKY IT IS THE MORE
THEY'RE WILLING TO PAY FOR IT.
AND THAT'S PREYING UPON THE
IMMATURITY AND LACK OF EMOTIONAL
AND INTELLECTUAL DEVELOPMENT
THAT OUR CHILDREN HAVE AND THAT
HAS TO END. THERE'S TWO WAYS TO
DO THAT THERE'S WAYS TO DO THAT
WITH A STICK. WHICH IS WHAT THIS
BILL BRINGS FORWARD AND THERE'S
WAYS TO DEAL WITH THE CARE. WE
NEED AS A STATE BEYOND THIS BILL
TO CONTINUE TO PARTNER WITH A
SOCIAL MEDIA NETWORKS AND STATE
DELIBERATELY EXACTLY WHAT DO WE
WANT. OUR SOCIAL NETWORKS TO
PRESENT AS THEY DO IN OTHER
COUNTRIES. WHERE THEY EMPHASIZE
STEM RESEARCH AND HOW TO BECOME
AN ASTRONAUT. AND HOW TO BREAK
CEILINGS THAT YOU MAY NOT KNOW
THAT ARE IN FRONT OF YOU. HOW DO
YOU ASPIRE FOR GREATNESS. AND
THOSE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WE
SHOULD HAVE IN CALIFORNIA AND
THE UNITED STATES. SO I THINK
THAT THERE'S A LONG WAY TO GO
THAT THIS BILL IS ACTUALLY JUST
THE BEGINNING OF IT. I HAVE- TWO
OTHER BILLS ONE OF THEM IS TO-
OR ONE OTHER BILL- THAT'S TO
CREATE A STATE COMMISSION. ON
SOCIAL MEDIA AND MENTAL HEALTH
TO CONTINUE TO ADDRESS THIS. SO
THIS IS A STARTING POINT NOT AN
END POINT. SO ONCE AGAIN I THANK
YOU SENATOR FOR BRINGING THIS
FORWARD. I TOTALLY COMPLETELY
SUPPORT THIS BILL I WOULD ASK IF
YOU WOULD CONSIDER ME TO BE A CO
AUTHOR PRINCIPLE GOAL. THANK YOU
. ASSEMBLY MEMBER SEVEN YES
THANK YOU. HI GOOD AFTERNOON
EVERYONE. I FOR- THE OPPOSITION
HAVE YOU GUYS THE SOCIAL DILEMMA
ON THAT. HAVE YOU. YOU HAVEN'T
SEEN IT WHY COULD YOU IT BECAUSE
IT'S VERY. WHEN YOU WATCH THE
EXPERTS TACK WHO THIS IS TALK
ABOUT HOW TO USE THE SYSTEMS TO
MANIPULATE HUMAN BEHAVIOR. AND
THEY RELY ON. BRAIN BREVARD
MECHANISMS LIKE DOPAMINE TO
ATTRACT AN ADDICT PEOPLE TO
THEIR PLATFORMS AND I THINK IT'S
BEEN VERY VERY SUCCESSFUL. AND
YOU COULD SEE OUR KIDS TODAY
THEY'RE GLUED TO THEIR PHONES
THEY'RE HIGHLY ADDICTED- THE US
SURGEON GENERAL JUST PUT OUT A
HUGE REPORT. FINDING THAT- HE
SAID- TEAMS USE MEDIA FOR MORE
THAN THREE HOURS THEY FACE
DOUBLE THE RISK OF DEPRESSION
AND ANXIETY SINCE SYMPTOMS
DOUBLE. AND WE KNOW IT'S
ESPECIALLY PROBLEMATIC FOR YOUNG
WOMEN- WITH THE EATING DISORDERS
AND BODY IMAGE ISSUES SO. I
HAVEN'T SEEN A LOT OF BENEFITS
FROM KIDS BEING ON SOCIAL MEDIA
TO BE HONEST I THINK IT'S BEEN
ON THE- ON THE BALANCE IT'S BEEN
A LOT MORE HARMFUL. AND SO I DO
THINK IT'S A PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE
WHETHER THIS IS THE RIGHT
SOLUTION. I DON'T KNOW I PLAN TO
SUPPORT IT- I WAS FEELING ILL.
COMING UP IN THE SYSTEM- AND SO
. I ENCOURAGE THAT WE AS
POLICYMAKERS CONTINUE TO REALLY
TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY AND FIGURE
OUT A SOLUTION. MY PERSONAL
VIEWS I'VE MADE IT CLEAR IS THAT
I DON'T THINK KIDS SHOULD BE ON
SOCIAL MEDIA. I THINK UTAH'S
DOWN THAT SOME OTHER STATES ARE
DOING THAT- I THINK SOCIAL MEDIA
IS MORE HARMFUL THAN TOBACCO. SO
WE SHOULD TREAT IT THE WAY WE
TREAT TOBACCO YOU CANNOT TRY TO
FIND A KID. WHO CAN BUY TOBACCO
IN CALIFORNIA IT'S ALMOST
IMPOSSIBLE. SO WE CAN STOP KIDS
FROM ANY TOBACCO I THINK WE CAN
STOP THEM FROM GETTING ON SOCIAL
MEDIA. AND I KNOW SOME LAWSUITS
HAVE BEEN FILED BY SCHOOL
DISTRICTS I ENCOURAGE MORE OF
THOSE WE DO NEED LITIGATION IN
THE COURT SYSTEM. WE NEED LAWS
WE GOT TO GET OUR KIDS OFF
THEIR- SO WITH THAT I WILL
SUPPORT THE BILL. AND IF THAT
DOESN'T WORK THEN WE'LL FIGURE
SOMETHING ELSE OUT. ALL RIGHT
THANK YOU. ASSEMBLY MEMBER
WILSON. THANK YOU RECOMMEND THE
AUTHOR FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD
AND I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THE
BILL TODAY AND MY ONLY CONCERN.
IS THAT IT IT IS PRETTY BROAD
AND I DO THINK THAT. THAT COULD
BE PROBLEMATIC LATER I THINK IT
CAN BE WORKED OUT. AND FIGURED
OUT NOT NECESSARILY EVEN TO THE
LEGISLATIVE PROCESS THROUGH
JUST. HOW WE DO IT UNLESS IT'S
AND THERE'S DECISIONS AND THINGS
LIKE THAT I ALWAYS TRY TO AVOID
THOSE AND HOPE THAT WE CAN.
MITIGATE THOSE THINGS HERE. BUT
I THINK IT'S A STARTING POINT I
DO KNOW THAT SEVERAL TIMES EVEN
AND THEN ALICE'S IT SHOWS WE
TRIED THIS BEFORE I GOT THE
CHANCE TO VOTE ON SOMETHING LAST
YEAR. THAT DIDN'T MAKE IT ALL
THE WAY YOU KNOW THROUGH- SO
WELL SUPPORTED BUT I DO
RECOGNIZE. THAT POINT THAT THERE
IS SOME BROAD LANGUAGE IN THERE
THAT I THINK CAN BE PROBLEMATIC-
AND SO AS YOU CONTINUE TO
NAVIGATE I KNOW IT'S NOT OVER
TILL IT'S OVER. THINK ABOUT HOW
WE CAN WORK THINGS TO HELP. YOU
KNOW MARROW THAT. SIMPLY MEMBER
. THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. I WANT
TO THANK THE CENTER FOR PRE THIS
. I THINK THAT. I DO THINK THAT
. THERE ARE SOME. FROM SOCIAL.
EVEN YOU FOR THE MOST BE REGULAR
. AND ONE THING IS FOR. THAT NO
MATTER WHAT THE RESULT OF THIS
LET'S JUST SAY IS BROKEN TO COME
BACK IF YOU WERE ON IT BECAUSE
IT'S AN S. OF ALL. UPPING TECH.
EVER EVOLVING- AND I THINK IT'S
GONNA REQUIRE OUR DILIGENCE. AND
THE IT YOU KNOW SOMEONE THAT ON
MANY PLATFORM INCLUDING TO TALK
- THE REALITY IS IF YOU LOOK AT
. IN CHINA THEY READ TO TALK
HEAVILY. AND ONLY ALLOW FOR EDGE
. CON FOR YOUNG PEOPLE AND YET
HE- YOU KNOW HE PRESUME THAT WE
DON'T HAVE CONTROL. IT AND IT'S
JUST. IT'S COMPLETELY TRUE WE-
DO HAVE. SOME DEGREE CONTROLLED
OUR COLLEAGUES POINT. BECAUSE A
LOT OF FEDERAL ACTUALLY CAN'T.
SIT AROUND AND- ESPECIALLY GOOD
THE FACT THIS. YOU MUCH OF IT IS
BEING. CREATED HERE IN OUR OWN
BACKYARD IN MY DISTRICT AND
YOU'RE MY DISTRICT. AND SO I DO
THINK THAT WE HAVE- AN EXTRA
OBLIGATION. TO PROTECT OUR YOUTH
AND TO ENSURE THAT THESE VERY.
OTHERWISE VALUE- SOCIALLY. BUT
ALSO LIKE. THANK YOU ASSEMBLY
MEMBER KALRA- ANY OTHER
COMMENTS. OF SENATOR SKINNER I
APPRECIATE YOUR WORK ON THIS
ISSUE OBVIOUSLY VERY COMPLICATED
AND WHETHER THIS IS GOING TO BE.
THE SOLUTION WE DON'T KNOW YET
AND THEN TO YOUR POINT I DON'T
THINK IT'S JUST A CHILDREN THAT
ARE ADDICTED WE CAN SIT WITH A
GROUP OF OUR COLLEAGUES AND- SEE
EVERYBODY. ADDICTED TO THE PHONE
. BECAUSE WE HAVE PUT EVERY-
BECAUSE WE HAVE PUT EVERY
POSSIBLE THING WE COULD POSSIBLY
COULD WANT- IN THERE INCLUDING.
ASSEMBLY MEMBER KALRA AS A
CAMERA RIGHT AND FOR THE SELFIE
SO. BUT- ALLOWING CHILDREN TO
AND I'M VERY GRATEFUL THAT MY
KIDS ARE A LITTLE BIT OLDER THAN
A LOT OF YOUR CHILDREN BECAUSE I
JUST DON'T KNOW HOW I WOULD
NAVIGATE. THE SYSTEM THE WAY IT
IS NOW. OF NOT ALLOWING CHILDREN
AND TEENS TO SPEND. A LOT OF
TIME ON SOCIAL MEDIA IN ALLOWING
THAT WE'VE EMBARKED ON A US
DANGEROUS EXPERIMENTS AND WE ARE
USING OUR CHILDREN AS A GUINEA
PIG SET A GROWING BODY OF
RESEARCH HAS DEMONSTRATED THAT
YOUNG USERS- FACE SIGNIFICANT.
HEALTH RISKS- BECAUSE OF SOCIAL
OF MEDIA AND WE'VE HEARD ABOUT
IT THE ADDAMS SUICIDE AND
DEPRESSION AND- ANOREXIA. OF LOW
SELF ESTEEM AND THE LIST GOES ON
AND ON AND I THINK THAT THE BIG
PART OF THE PROBLEM IS- THESE
MEDIA PLATFORMS WANT YOU TO
ENGAGE AND VERY OFTEN THAT
ENGAGEMENT IS EXACTLY WHAT LEADS
TO ADDICTION SO- IT'S A
DIFFICULT- IT'S A DIFFICULT
PROBLEM TO SOLVE BUT I THINK
THAT BY REQUIRING THE SOCIAL
MEDIA COMPANIES TO REGULARLY
AUDIT AND UPDATE THEIR
PLATFORMS. ENSURING THAT THEY
DON'T HARM CHILDREN I THINK THAT
THAT'S GOING TO BE VERY
BENEFICIAL PART OF- YOUR BILL.
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT
YOU'RE GOING TO BE A TAKEN THE
COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS. YES ONE
CHECK. YES UP. EXAMPLE NOT ONLY
TALKING POINTS ARE RIGHT. WE ADD
- SENATOR YOU MAKE. THANK YOU SO
MUCH- SO WE WEEKS STATE. DO NOT
TO REGULATE THE CONTENT THERE'S
AREAS OF BOTH THE- FEDERAL LAWS
AND OTHERS SO THIS BILL WAS
CAREFULLY CONSTRUCTED WE USED
THE OUR BEST LEGAL MINDS
AVAILABLE BOTH IN OUR DEPARTMENT
OF JUSTICE WITHIN OUR LARGE
COUNCIL WITHIN OTHER- OTHER
STAKEHOLDERS THAT WERE ADVISING
US INCLUDING ALSO- LAWYERS IN
DIFFERENT- OF OUR COMMITTEES. TO
CARAFE THIS IN A WAY THAT COULD
NOT RUN AFOUL OF THOSE AT THEIR
EITHER CONSTITUTIONAL OR OTHER
LEGAL JURISDICTIONAL AREAS AND
SO THAT IS WHY IT IS AROUND THE
DESIGN FEATURES AND ALGORITHMS
AND SUCH. THEN ON THE QUESTION
OF YOU KNOW PERHAPS SHOULD WE
TAKE LIKE UTAH'S APPROACH AND
CERTAINLY THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE
WHO WOULD ADVOCATE THAT- IN I
CHOSE NOT TO GO THAT DIRECTION
YET I THINK THAT'S CERTAINLY
SOMETHING THAT YOU KNOW IN
FUTURE SHOULD BE CONSIDERED
BECAUSE THERE ARE BENEFITS FOR
THEIR FOR MANY USE THAT THE
COMMUNITY OF. THEIR COMFORT
COMMITTEE THEIR COMMUNITY OF
LIKE MINDED PEERS IS OFTEN ONLY
FOUND THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA AND
SO I DID NOT WANT TO HAS I THINK
SOMEBODY SAID TO ME I THROW THE
BABY OUT WITH THE BATH WATER I
WANTED REALLY TO GET AT THOSE
ASPECTS OF IT THAT CREATE HARM.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE THAT'S
REALLY WHAT WE ATTEMPTED TO DO
NOW ON THE BRIGHTNESS. WE YOU
KNOW HAD THIS IF THIS BILL WERE
PRIVATE RIGHT OF ACTION- THEN
YOU KNOW I CAN CERTAINLY SEE
THAT POINT BUT GIVEN THAT THIS
IS ONLY IF. THE ONLY FILL YOU TO
ENFORCE IT IS THROUGH OUR PUBLIC
PROSECUTORS I THINK MOST OF US
KNOW THE PROSECUTORS DON'T TEND
TO TAKE THINGS TO COURT. UNLESS
THEY OR YOU KNOW AN ACT ACT ON
SOMETHING UNLESS THEY HAVE GOOD
EVIDENCE. THAT IT IS VIOLATED
YOU KNOW MORE THAN JUST THE
SPIRIT OF THAT SO. SO THAT'S
ANOTHER REASON IT WAS DESIGNED
THAT WAY. IN OFFICE I WOULD
GUESS IT WILL BE PUTTING COURT
AND WE WILL SEE HOW YOU KNOW HOW
ALL THAT GOES BUT I REALLY
APPRECIATE THAT. THERE ARE- LOTS
OF FOLKS LOTS OF OUR COLLEAGUES
IN THE LEGISLATURE THINKING
ABOUT THIS ISSUE. AND THINKING
ABOUT YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE IF THIS
IF THIS BILL AND I HOPE IT IS
SUCCESSFUL AND THE GOVERNOR
SIGNED INTO LAW IF IT DOES NOT
ACCOMPLISH THE GOAL. THEN THAT
WE ARE STILL PURSUING OTHER
THINGS BECAUSE TO LEAVE IT TO
PARENTS IS ARE GOOD-
SUPERINTENDENT DESCRIBE TO LEAVE
IT TO PARENTS OR SCHOOLS NOW IS
JUST SUCH AN UNFAIR
CIRCUMSTANCE. BECAUSE I MEAN
ANYONE BEYOND THE SOCIAL DILEMMA
WHICH YOUR COLLEAGUE REFERENCED
THERE DO YOU. UP YOU JUST GO ON.
SIXTY MINUTES AND DO SOME
SEARCHES THEY HAVE HAD NUMEROUS
FEATURES AROUND YOU KNOW
PARENTS. ENCOUNTERS WHERE
PARENTS TRY TO LIMIT AND MONITOR
AND RESTRICT THEIR CHILDREN IN
SCHOOLS THAT TRY TO. YOU KNOW
THE WHOLE GAMUT. AND- IN B. THAT
IT'S CLOSE TO PASS SWITCH NOT OF
. POSITION TO PUT OUR PEER OR
OUR SCHOOLS. AND WITHOUT ASK
YOUR I THOUGHT. OUR RIGHTS A
VERY GOOD. TO- OCEAN. ALL RIGHT
. ALL RIGHT WE HAVE A- BIASA
MEMBER AT LOW. AND A SET BY
SEVEN OR MATT ASSEMBLY MEMBER
STALEY AND- THE IS TO AS MAY TO
THE- COMMITTEE CAN I SECRETARY
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. AND NUMBER
TWO S. B. SIX FIVE SENATOR
SKINNER. IRWIN HI- WHEN I.
ALLOCATE HIM BENNETT SALIH SALIH
I. FONG I CALL. KALRA ISLAND ALL
LOWER I HAPPEN. WICKS WILSON.
WILSON HI. ALL RIGHT THAT THE
BILL HAS PASSED. BOTH BELIEVE
THE ROLE OF A YES. AT TO US
CHANGING CORE BUT WITH THESE
AUTHOR. WE ARE GOING TO BACK TO
VIOLATE ONE S. B. FOUR SEVEN
EIGHT. WHILE WE'RE WAITING
EVERYBODY TO. WHILE WE'RE
WAITING FOR EVERYBODY WILL WHY
DON'T WE GO AHEAD AND- DO THAT
CALENDAR. MARK FRIEDMAN A
COMMOTION BY SOMETHING THAT LONG
SELECT.
FONG KALRA ALL RIGHT HI LOW
INVOLVED RENTAL I HAPPEN WICKS
PERSON WILL SEND HI. OUR FRIENDS
AT THE SEC CALENDARS OUT WATER.
SAN YOU MAY BE WHATEVER ARE
READY THANK YOU SO MUCH ON UP
WITH SENATOR. YES I END UP- OUR
- BETWEEN GENERAL WITNESSES ON
THIS ALSO SO SB FOUR SEVENTY
EIGHT PLEASED PRESENT- SENATOR
DAUGHTER ALSO A JOY AUTHORS AND
THAT BURKE AUTHORS THE TO THAT
EFFECT. ANYWAY THIS BILL DEAL
WITH THIS IN FOR NOMINATING
WHERE YOU KNOW ANY OF US WILL
ONLINE AND BOOK A VACATION OR
BOOK A HOTEL ROOM OR BOOK A
TICKET AND YOU KNOW WE SEE THE
PRICE LISTED AND THEN NEXT THING
YOU KNOW WE GET TO THE PLACE
WHERE YOUR YOU KNOW CHECK OUT OR
WHATEVER AND USE YOUR CREDIT
CARD INFO ALL OF A SUDDEN
THERE'S A- MULTIPLE HIDDEN FEES.
OR FOR WORSE THAN THAT WE MAKE
THE RESERVATION AND WE GET TO
THE LOCATION AND WERE TOLD ABOUT
MULTIPLE HIDDEN FEES AT A POINT
WHERE WE CAN THEN CAN'T EVEN.
REMOVE OURSELVES SO WHAT THIS
BILL DOES IS- IT STOPS JUNKIES
AND DECEPTIVE PRICE ADVERTISING
BY MAKING IT UNLAWFUL UNDER THE
CONSUMER LEGAL REMEDIES ACT TO
ADVERTISE THE PRICE FOR A GOOD
OR SERVICE THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE
ALL REQUIRED CHARGES- OTHER THAN
THE TAXES AND FEES IMPOSED BY
GOVERNMENT. SO WITH THAT I WOULD
LIKE TO HAVE TED MERMAN WHO'S
THE DIRECTOR OF THE CALIFORNIA
WHEN CAN INCOME CONSUMER
COALITION AS MY WITNESS AND
ELEANOR. BLOOM GOOD AFTERNOON MR
AND COMMITTEE THE FIRST I WOULD
TO YOU ALL FOR YOUR P. SKINNER
FOR HER PAGE. CALLING FOR
VARIOUS WITH OUR LITTLE BIT OF A
TRY CARE CRIED TODAY. MY SON IS
FOR YOUNG FOR SOCIAL RESULT TIME
TO FIX THOSE. BEFORE HE'S OPEN
TO BE ON LINE WE ARE ACROSS
SEVEN. VIRGIN SOCIAL CHALLENGE
HERE I. CHILD CARE AND WORKING
PARA MANY IS ALAN BLOOM AND I
THE SPECIAL SYSTEM ATTORNEY FOR.
JUSTICE YOU NEED TO GENERAL'S.
THE TERM ONE IS TO SPONSOR AND
BEFORE SO EIGHT TO BRING AN END
TO HIM FEES IN CAL. ON BEHALF OF
THE ATTORNEY I WANT TO THANK
SENATORS. AND SENATOR JOHN. FOR
AUTHORING IMPORTANT LET. IT TO
PER CALIFORNIA'S. THIS IS YOUR
HIDDEN FEES OR JOHN. TO PENSION
ARTIFICE LOW HEADLINE PRICE TO
WHICH A CUSTOMER BEFORE RUBIO.
ADDITION CHARGES LATER IN THE
BUYING PROCESS THESE HIDDEN FEES
ARE BAD FOR CONSUMERS AND BAD
FOR COMPETITION. FOR THE
TRAVELLING PURCHASING CONCERT
TICKETS OR PICKING UP A MEAL.
ALL KNOW HOW FRUSTRATING IT IS
TO GET TO THE CHECK OUT AND FIND
OUT THAT SOMETHING ADVERTISED AS
ONE PRICE ACTUALLY COSTS MUCH
MORE. THIS IS MORE THAN JUST
FRUSTRATING OBSCURING THE TRUE
PRICE OF A PRODUCT OR SERVICE
MAKES IT HARD FOR CUSTOMERS TO
CHOOSE TO SORT BY PRICE AND MAKE
THE DECISION THAT IS BEST FOR
THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES AT THE
OUTSIDE OF A TRANSACTION. TO
PLAN AND TO BUDGET THIS LACK OF
TRANSPARENCY ALSO MAKES IT HARD
FOR HONEST BUSINESSES TO COMPETE
ON PRICE BAD FOR CONSUMERS AND
BAD FOR COMPETITION. WE'RE
SEEING THIS BAIT AND SWITCH
PRICING ADOPTED IN MANY
INDUSTRIES RATHER THAN MOVING IT
TOWARD GREATER TRANSPARENCY MORE
BUSINESSES IN MORE INDUSTRIES
ARE CHOOSING TO HIDE THE TRUE
COSTS TO THE CONSUMER. IN FACT
WE KNOW AT LEAST 85% OF
AMERICANS HAVE ENCOUNTERED AN
UNEXPECTED. FOR HIDDEN FEE OVER
THE PAST TWO YEARS. THERE'S NO
REASON TO. THE THESE JUNKIES
COST CONSUMER BILLIONS OF
DOLLARS EACH YEAR AND HURT
WORKING FAMILIES AT A TIME.
EVERYTHING TODDLER MATTERS THAT
MUCH MORE. THIS DECEPTIVE
PRACTICE ALSO HURTS. BUSINESSES
THAT ARE DOING BUSINESS THE
RIGHT WAY BY BEING TRANSPARENT
ABOUT THE PRICE THIS
NECESSITATES LEGISLATIVE ACTION.
WE CAN AND SHOULD STOP THIS IN
CALIFORNIA. WE CAN AND SHOULD
STOP THE POLICING OF CONCERN. WE
CAN ENSURE THAT STOP THE
IMBALANCE IN THE MARKET. THAT
MAKES IT EVEN HARDER FOR
BUSINESSES THAT WANT TO PLAY BY
THE RULES RIGHT BY THEIR
CUSTOMERS TO SIX. IN CALIFORNIA
THE PRICE LISTED SHOULD BE THE
PRICE TAG. IT'S PRETTY SIMPLE
AND WE WERE PRETTY SIMPLE
SOLUTION. FOR SEVENTY EIGHT WILL
PROHIBIT THE PRACTICE OF
CHARGING CHARGING HIDDEN
MANDATORY FEES. THE BILL WOULD
PROHIBIT ADVERTISING A PRICE FOR
GREATER SERVICE THAT DOES NOT
INCLUDE ALL REQUIRED CHARGES
OTHER THAN TAXES AND FEES
IMPOSED BY IT UP. YES PEOPLE.
EIGHT AND THEY SAID THIS IS
SOLUTION THIS LEGISLATION. WOULD
MAKE CLEAR THAT THE PRICE YOU
SEE TO BE THE PRICE YOU PAY. ANY
GENERAL BONTA URGES YOUR I'VE ON
THIS CONSUMER PROTECTION
LEGISLATION I AM HERE ALONG WITH
MY COLLEAGUES. IN THE LOOP
SHOOTING ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS
ME. THANK YOU. CENTERS HAS MANY
TALENTS. SURE MEMBERS. TED
MERMAN. I'M HERE TODAY ON BEHALF
OF SB FOUR SEVENTY IT'S
COSPONSORED THE CALIFORNIA LOW
INCOME CONSUMER COALITION CLICK.
TO EXPLAIN WHY THIS BILL MEANS
SO MUCH NOT JUST ALL
CALIFORNIANS BUT SPECIFICALLY TO
THOSE LIVING. ON THE FINANCIAL
EDGE. SIX MEMBERS PROVIDE FREE
LEGAL SERVICES TO THE STATE'S
MOST VULNERABLE RESIDENTS. DAY
AFTER DAY WE HEAR FROM PEOPLE
WHO ARE BARELY GETTING BY.
THEY'RE MANAGING TO HOLD ON BUT
OUR ONE SURPRISE CHARGE AWAY
FROM FALLING OFF AND ECONOMIC
FOR. THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO
CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY THE HIDDEN
20% CONVENIENCE FEE. FOR
RESTAURANT DELIVERY SERVICE WHEN
THEY DON'T HAVE TIME TO COOK. OR
THE SERVICE FEE FOR A CONCERT
TICKET THEY'D SAVED UP FOR THEIR
DAUGHTER'S BIRTHDAY. I KNOW YOU
HEARD FROM THIS BERMAN 85% OF
AMERICANS HAVE ENCOUNTERED THE
SURPRISE FEES I WOULD JUST ADD
THAT ACCORDING TO THE SAME STUDY
96% OF THOSE PEOPLE DON'T LIKE
THEM. AS PRESIDENT BIDEN
OBSERVED IN HIS STATE OF THE
UNION ADDRESS THIS YEAR JUNKIES
MAY NOT MATTER TO THE VERY
WEALTHY BUT THEY MATTER TO MOST
FOLKS. NOW THE WHITE HOUSE. HAS
GOTTEN ORAL COMMITMENTS FROM
SOME BIG COMPANIES TO MEND THEIR
WAYS BUT THOSE COMMITMENTS DON'T
MEAN MUCH IF THERE'S NO LAW TO
BACK THEM UP. THIS CONGRESS. AS
WE HEARD IN OTHER CONTEXTS ISN'T
GOING TO AT. BUT I BELIEVE THIS
LEGISLATURE WILL. HONESTY IN
PRICE ADVERTISING HAS BEEN
REQUIRED IN THIS STATE FOR MORE
THAN A HUNDRED YEARS. THE DRIP
PRICING TRICK HAS INFECTED A LOT
OF INDUSTRIES. PERHAPS YOU HAVE
HEARD FROM SOME OF THEM
RECENTLY. IT IS THE SUBJECT OF A
RECENT STUDY. EXPLAINING JUST
HOW IT WORKS ON CONSUMERS BY THE
HARVARD BUSINESS SCHOOL. IN
OTHER WORDS IT'S EVERYWHERE. AND
IT IS HARMING BOTH CONSUMERS AND
BUSINESSES THAT WANT TO BE
TRANSPARENT WITH THEIR CUSTOMERS
HOW. IS AN ABOVE BOARD BUSINESS
THAT DOESN'T WANT TO DECEIVE
CONSUMERS SUPPOSED TO COMPETE.
WHEN THE STORE DOWN THE BLOCK IS
ADVERTISING A PRICE THAT DOESN'T
INCLUDE THE REAL PRICE. CLEARLY
THIS IS A PROBLEM THAT REQUIRES
AS MS BLOOM SAYS LEGISLATIVE
ACTION. BECAUSE THE ONLY
SOLUTION THAT WILL WORK IS ONE
THAT IS ACROSS THE BOARD. ONE
THAT WILL REQUIRE ALL MEMBERS OF
AN INDUSTRY TO COMPETE FAIRLY.
SB FOUR SEVENTY EIGHT WOULD
ESTABLISH A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD
. THAT WILL BENEFIT CONSUMERS
AND BUSINESSES RESPECTFULLY ASK
YOUR AYE VOTE. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH DO YOU HAVE ANY AS OR OF
WITNESSES IN THE ROOM THAT WOULD
LIKE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS
BILL. SAM A GOOD MENTION HERE ON
BEHALF OF KIM STONE OF STONE
ADVOCACY. REPRESENTING THE
CALIFORNIA DISTRICT ATTORNEYS
ASSOCIATION IN STRONG SUPPORT.
REBECCA MARKETS REPRESENTING THE
CONSUMER PROTECTION POLICY
CENTER AT THE UNIVERSITY OF SAN
DIEGO SCHOOL OF LAW AND HELP AND
SUPPORT. GEN HI JADI COMPRISED
SOME. ROB ROBERT FOR K. IN
SUPPORT THE LIFE WOULDN'T BE
DOING MY JOB IF I DIDN'T KNOW
THAT I'M A BIT CONCERNED AT THE-
POTENTIAL CAVALCADE OF CARVE
OUTS. THAT ARE BEGINNING TO
IMPACT THIS BILL THANK YOU.
EMILY IS THE MONEY WITH THE
CALIFORNIA TRELLISES ATION WANT
TO THANK THE AUTHORS SPONSOR AND
COMMITTEE OUT WE ARE MOVING TO
NEUTRAL WHAT THE NEW MEN'S
THANKS. OKAY OF. ALL RIGHT SO
LET'S GET UP THE OPPOSITION.
ROBERT RIVAS A CALIFORNIA
CHAMBER OF COMMERCE HERE
RESPECTFULLY OPPOSE FIRST I WANT
TO APPLAUD- THE EXPERT AND
CENTER SKINNER FOR THE IMPROMPTU
CHILD CARE- AND I HAVE SOME
SNACKS IF THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL
GLAD TO OFFER- SO I WE RESPECT
THE OPPOSED SB FOUR SEVENTY
EIGHT THIS COMES DOWN TO TWO KEY
CONCERNS I WANT TO THANK THE
CHIEF CONSULTANT FOR THE VERY
THOROUGH ANALYSIS DEALING WITH
THE POINTS I THINK QUITE WELL-
OUR- FIRST CONCERN RELATES TO
THE- DUPLICATE NATURE THIS AS WE
SEE IT VIS A VIS. AD WAS A WELL
CAPTURE THE NOW SAYS I'M PRE
EXISTING LAW WHICH WAS UTILIZED
MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE TO SHUT
DOWN PUBLIC GOES GOOD CAR
COMPANY FOR FALSE ADVERTISING
NOW THIS WE HAVE A DIFFERENCE OF
OPINION WITH ANALYSIS ABOUT
WHETHER A NEW TOOL IS NECESSARY
BUT APPRECIATED THAT CAPTURE-
SECOND I WANT TO THANK THE-
SPONSOR AND THE- LOCAL AUTHOR.
SHOULD SAY- FOR THE AMENDS TO
DEAL WITH INDUSTRY SPECIFIC
CONCERNS AROUND CONFLICT ISSUES
I KNOW THAT'S A LOT OF WORK HAS
GONE OF THOSE AMENDMENTS AND
APPRECIATE THE EFFORT ON YOUR
PART- SO WITH THAT WE RESPECT
THE POST THANK YOU. I THANK YOU
DO WE HAVE ANY I AM. THE REMAINS
. FIVE OH EIGHT FOUR. ALL RIGHT
DO WE HAVE AN OTHER ARE SPOKE IN
THE ROOM. SPEAKING OFFICES.
MANAGER IN OFFICE A MANAGER
MOFFETT AND THEY HAVE THE
CLIENTS DAY FOR ONE I THINK THE
AUTHOR AND SPONSOR. ON THE
RENTAL CAR PROVISIONS THAT ARE
AND THE COMMITTEE ON THE RENTAL
CAR PROVISIONS ON BEHALF OF
ENTERPRISE. ON BEHALF OF THE
ALLIANCE FOR AUTOMOTIVE
INNOVATION- STILL WORKING WITH
THE AUTHOR AND SPONSORS ON
DEALING WITH MSRP AND THINGS
LIKE THAT WE'RE PROHIBITED FROM
SELLING CARS IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA. BUT WE DO RUN ADS
ABOUT MSRP AND LEASE OPTIONS SO
WORKING THROUGH THOSE ISSUES AND
APPRECIATE THE ON GOING WORK.
VENTURE MEMBERS STAND CHAU.
SCHOOL JUST ASSOCIATION
CALIFORNIA REGARDING OPPOSITION
. THE ANY TALK OF A TECH THAT
RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION BUT
APPRECIATE ONGOING CONVERSATIONS
WITH THE AUTHOR AND SPONSOR. ALL
RIGHT QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM
THE DYESS ASSEMBLY MEMBER
WILSON. JUST A QUICK QUESTION-
OTHERS SPEAKING THROUGH THE
EXAMPLES GIVEN TO THIS FIGHTS
LIKE DOORDASH AND- AND- OVER A
LIFT AND ALL OF THAT. STUFF IN
TERMS OF- WITH THE- WHEN I MEAN
WHEN YOU'RE WHEN YOU GO TO. PICK
SAY YES I WANT THAT IN THE
FIGURE OUT IT. KEEPS THE AG'S
OFFICE WANTS. TO FIVE WHO.
CHARGES FIVE DOOR DASH OR OVER A
LIFT. I DO. SHE THE QUESTION.
FOOD DELIVERY CHARGE ARE THAT
NOT. TAXES AND IMPOSED BY OR
CONFLICT. WHAT WOULD. REQUIRED
TO BE JUST AT OUTSET YEAH.
ADDITIONAL FEES THEY A LONG AS
IT'S NOT TAX GOVERNMENT OPPOSE
TAX AND THEN ONE OF THE THINGS
WAS MEANT TO IN THE KNOWLEDGE-
BUT I DO CRIED IT'S ABOUT THE-
FEES. AND A LOT OF TIME
DESTINATION FEES. WITH OUR
GOVERNMENT YOU KNOW THE BE
TORRANCE THAT PROOF BY THE
VOTERS ARE SOMETHING LIKE
BECAUSE I IN ESSENCE THE ARE
YOUR ABOUT THAT. JUST REALLY
TAKE BE AT EIGHT THE- A GUY
WHETHER YEARS THAT I'M SAY A
WHOLE TO THAT'S GOT TAX SO THAT
THAT NOT THE D. THE HOTEL ITSELF
WE USED EXAMPLE DOES NOT HAVE TO
DISCUSS THAT. RIGHT RIGHT THE-
SOME IS GOVERNMENT. SO IF IT DID
YEAH THE SAME ANY THAT A
GOVERNMENT CARRILLO GOVERNMENT
BUT OR VOTERS TO THE DROPS ON
SOME. THAT'S THAT DOES HAVE TO
BE A TO STUFF CORRECT THANK YOU
FOR CLARIFYING FOR ME. S. MEMBER
WICKS- FIRST OF ALL MISSED I
JUST WANTED TO- SAY I YOU I FEEL
YOU HAVE BEEN YOU SO IN A MAMA.
I WHAT IT'S LIKE. YOU'RE DOING
GREAT THANK- I ALSO LIKE BILL-
I'D LIKE TO A MOTION IS HASN'T
ONE RT BEEN MADE I DON'T KNOW-
AND LOVE TO BE AS CO AUTHOR OF.
YOUR ALSO- AND WITH THE TO SEE
THIS BILL THROUGH IT BEEN
HELPING ANYWAY THAT I BECAUSE
THIS IS. AND ISSUE FOR MANY
PEOPLE. OF ALL WALKS LIFE SO
APPRECIATIVE WORK AND THE- RIGHT
ASSEMBLY. OF OUR- JUST WHAT I
LIKE TO BE ADDED TO CO AUTHOR
THE AUTHOR IS MINIMAL THANK YOU
. ALL RIGHT ASSEMBLY MEMBER CALL
THINK ABOUT IT SHUTTLES LIKE
THAT IS BECAUSE OF THE THEY
CONSIDER. ALL RIGHT TO HAVE ANY
OTHER. COMMENTS THE SO. AS WAS A
MENTOR WERE ALL AND I'M-
FAMILIAR WITH THE- AND WHAT
PRESIDENT CALL- JOHN FOR UNEX.
AND I THINK CHARGE THAT PA UP AT
THE OF. FANS SOMETIMES AFTER WE
SPENT HOURS ONLINE AND- WE'VE
BEEN WORKING ON THAT ON ANOTHER
A BILL AND- YOU KNOW OBVIOUSLY
THIS IS MUCH MORE- ALL
CONSUMING. THIS BILL WOULD AMEND
THE CONSUMER LEGAL REMEDIES ACT
TO PROHIBIT ADVERTISING
DISPLAYING ARE OFFERING A PRICE
FOR A GOOD OR SERVICE THAT DOES
NOT. INCLUDE ALL THE MANDATORY
FEES OR CHARGES- BUSINESSES WILL
HAVE TO COMPETE. ON THE BASIS OF
PRICE AND VALUE OFFERED RATHER
THAN THEIR ABILITY TO FOOL
PEOPLE INTO PAYING A JUNK FEES
AND THERE'S NO REASON FOR US TO
WAIT FOR FEDERAL ACTION THE
CONSUMER LEGAL REMEDIES ACT HAS
BEEN. HAS PROVEN FOR DECADES TO
BE AN EFFECTIVE. DEVICE FOR
TARGETING AND STOPPING SPECIFIC
TYPES OF ECONOMIC THIS CONTACT
AND YOU HAVE ALREADY ACCEPTED
THE COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS AND SO
WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE. AND
THANK YOU RESPECTFULLY ASK RIVAL
YES IT WILL ADD- HAVE-
SYNDERGAARD AD. WIXEN KALRA
SQUATTERS AND IF THERE'S- PLEASE
LET KNOW. ALL RIGHT AND WITH
THAT WE HAD AT A MOTION BY
SIMPLY WITH AND THIS FIVE.
MEMBER HAPPEN IN THE IS- WAS.
OVER ALWAYS MEMBER KALRA SECOND
. ALL RIGHT. THE AND THEN THE
MOTION IS TO BE A DOG. CHECK. TO
PICK UP TO PASS AS AMENDED. THE
MOTION IS TO PASS AS- AND IF I
THIS PLEASE THE ROLL. I REMEMBER
S. BEFORE SO EIGHT SEVEN JOHN
THE MOTION IS TO. A AMENDED
IRWIN HI- WHEN I HAD A- ERICA
HIM. OKAY BENNETT. AND I
INSTANTLY. SALES NO FONG.
OKAY THAT THE VOTE CURRENTLY HAS
EIGHT TO TWO. I DON'T KNOW FOR
MISSING ANY YEAH I THOUGHT THE
MOTION TO BE ADOPTED MIGHT HAVE
BEEN A NEW THING THAT THEY USE
HERE AND PRIVACY ALL RIGHT-
THAT'S THE BILL HAS PASSED- WE
ARE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND ADD
STARTING WITH THE- CONSENT
CALENDAR. THANK YOU SENATOR
SKINNER THANK YOU. PASS TO THE-
PASUKAN SAID COUN. PATTERSON
HE'S- OKAY. OKAY WE'RE WE'RE
THAT CONSENT CALENDAR OKAY HIM
OUT HIM HI THANK YOU BENNETT
BENNETT HI HAPPY. HAPPEN ALL
RIGHT WITH. WICKS I. THERE IS R.
I. AND THAT VOTE IS TEND ZERO
THE CAN- FILE ITEM TO. SIX EIGHT
SIX EIGHT. AS SIX EIGHTY. I
DON'T KNOW U. S. B. C. EIGHTY
PATTERSON BENNETT BENNETT I
HAPPEN. HAVE WICKS WITH I. LARRY
AT AND I THINK YOU KNOW.
YOU JUST HAVE. SANTA I THINK WE
ARE GOOD HERE WE WILL WAY OF.
WHAT HAPPENS HOW LONG DO YOU
USUALLY WEAR. I. LET'S JUST
USUALLY JUST GIVE LIKE.
FIVE
TEN-
OUR RIGHTS AND OF WITH THAT WE
ARE GOING TO BE ADJOURNING THIS
MEETING PRIVACY COMMITTEE AND
BECAUSE PRICING CONSUMER
PROTECTION.