SCARE EVERYONE WITH THAT GAVEL.
UH HI. EVERYONE WELCOME TO THE
ASSEMBLY, HOUSING AND COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE HEARING.
WE HAVE EIGHT ITEMS ON OUR
AGENDA TODAY. TWO OF THE ITEMS
ON CONSENT ITEM NUMBER NINE SB
834 PORTANTINO'S BEEN PULLED AT
THE REQUEST OF THE AUTHOR. EACH
BILL CAN HAVE TWO MAIN WITNESSES
IN SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION. EACH
MAIN WITNESS GETS TWO MINUTES
EACH. THERE IS NO PHONE
TESTIMONY OPTION FOR THIS
HEARING. ALL WITNESSES ALL
WITNESS TESTIMONY WILL BE IN
PERSON. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO
SUBMIT WRITTEN TESTIMONY THROUGH
THE POSITION PORTAL ON THE
COMMITTEE'S WEBSITE. THIS WILL
BECOME PART OF THE OFFICIAL
RECORD OF THE BILL. THE HEARING
WILL BE OPEN FOR ATTENDANCE OF
THIS HEARING. ALL ARE ENCOURAGED
TO WATCH THE HEARING FROM ITS
LIVESTREAM ON THE ASSEMBLY'S
WEBSITE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR
PATIENCE AND UNDERSTANDING AND I
WOULD LOVE TO TAKE ROLE TO
ESTABLISH A QUORUM. WEEKS HERE
WEEKS HERE, PATTERSON PATTERSON
HERE, CARILLO. GABRIELLE
GRAYSON. GRAYSON HERE. CHOLERA.
COLOR RIGHT HERE. QUIRK-SILVA
QUIRK-SILVA HERE, SANCHEZ. WARD.
CONSIDER WE HAVE A QUORUM.
GREAT. AND BEFORE WE BEGIN, I
WANT TO ALSO GIVE A SHOUT OUT.
WE HAVE SOME OF MY INTERNS
COMING FROM THE DISTRICT OFFICE
IF YOU WOULD STAND UP AND WAVE
TO THE AUDIENCE, WE LOVE OUR
INTERNS VERY MUCH. MAXWELL
JULIAN, SO MAKE SURE THEY'RE
HERE TO WATCH A RIVETING HOUSING
HEARING. SO LET'S MAKE IT AS
DRAMATIC AS POSSIBLE. TEAM. OKAY
YEAH. OH, YES. UM AND WITH THAT
WE HAVE A CONSENT CALENDAR. WE
HAVE A MOTION. SO MOVED AND A
SECOND GREAT. I AM THIS NUMBER
TWO SP 20 DO PATHS. ITEM NUMBER
FIVE SP 2 40 TO PASS TO THE
ASSEMBLY COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. WEEKS HIGH I
PERSON, HARRISON. AYE. KOREA.
GRAYSON GRAYSON, I CHOLERA,
CHOLERA. I QUIRK-SILVA
QUIRK-SILVA AYE, SANCHEZ WORD.
50 THAT IS OUT. WE'LL LET FOLKS
ADD ON AND WE ARE LOOKING FOR
AUTHORS. SO IF YOU ARE A SENATOR
WATCHING THIS HEARING WHO ARE
PRESENTING IN THIS COMMITTEE
DAY, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO STOP BY
, OR IF YOU ARE STAFF MEMBER OF
A SENATOR PRESENTING IN THIS
HEARING, PLEASE HAVE YOUR BOSS.
COME HERE. UM, WE HAVE A COUPLE
BILLS ON THE AGENDA TODAY. SO
WHEN WE GET SOME AUTHORS HERE UM
WE WILL ENTERTAIN THOSE BILLS.
SO WITH THAT WE WILL HOLD UNTIL
GETTING THE AUTHORS AUTHORS,
PLEASE COME TO HOUSING
COMMITTEE. THANK YOU.
OKAY?
ARE WE GOOD? OKAY GREAT SENATOR
. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE
FIRST ONE HERE TODAY. SO UM,
THANK YOU. FOR THAT. YOU HAVE
TWO BILLS ON THE AGENDA TODAY. I
BELIEVE SP 34 AND SB 2 TO 9 AND
, UM, WHICH ONE WILL YOU BE
PRESENTING FIRST? WE'RE GOING TO
DO 34 1ST. GREAT. PERFECT. WELL,
WE'RE READY WHEN YOU ARE. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. I
APPRECIATE THE COURTESY OF
TAKING ME FIRST, UM I KNOW HOW
IMPORTANT THAT CAN BE. SO UM,
LET ME GIVE YOU SOME CONTEXT FOR
BOTH OF THESE BILLS BECAUSE THEY
BOTH EMERGED FROM THE SAME SET
OF FACTS. UH, ANAHEIM STADIUM
LOCATED AS YOU MIGHT GUESS IN
ANAHEIM, CALIFORNIA, IS THE HOME
OF THE FORMERLY KNOWN AND
ANAHEIM ANGELS. IT IS PROBABLY,
UH, AT LEAST IN THE LAST FIVE
YEARS THE MOST VALUABLE PARCEL
OF LAND THAT WAS OFFERED FOR
SALE BY ANY GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY
IN CALIFORNIA. AH! THERE WAS
COLLUSIVE BEHAVIOR BETWEEN THE
FORMER MAYOR AND FORMER AND I'LL
UNDERLINE FORMER, UH, CITY
COUNCIL AND WHAT I BELIEVE TO BE
THE CALIFORNIA ANGELS AND OTHERS
AS A CONSEQUENCE TO PEOPLE
PLEADED GUILTY. THIS
INVESTIGATION THAT IS STILL
ONGOING CONCERNING HOW THAT
TRANSACTION CAME TOGETHER.
BECAUSE THE NET IMPACT OF THE
TRANSACTION SHOULD IT HAVE BEEN
ACTUALLY EXECUTED WAS A PROBABLY
A LOSS TO TAXPAYERS. AT LEAST
$200 MILLION. IN MY VIEW. AND SO
, UM, WHAT HAPPENED WAS THAT AS
A CONSEQUENCE OF THE SURPLUS
LANDS ACT ENACTED BY OR AUTHORED
BY SOME REMEMBER PHIL TING
SURPLUS LANDS ACT, ITS PURPOSES
AT LEAST TWOFOLD, MAYBE MORE,
BUT AT LEAST TWOFOLD. ONE IS TO
MAKE SURE THAT WHEN A GOVERNMENT
ENTITY IS GOING TO, UH DISPOSE
OF PROPERTY THAT WOULD BE PUT
OUT TO BID SO THAT THE MARKET
CAN DETERMINE WHAT THE WHAT THE
VALUE IS FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE
TAXPAYERS. TO AVOID JUST THIS
SORT OF BEHAVIOR HERE WHERE YOU
HAVE 11 ENTITY WHOSE, UM
POTENTIALLY PURCHASING OR
LEASING THE LAND. AND SECONDLY,
TO PROVIDE FOR 25% AFFORDABLE
HOUSING. THAT'S THE THAT'S TWO
OF THE PURPOSES OF SURPLUS LAND,
ZACK. THE SALE OF THE STADIUM OR
AT LEAST THE ATTEMPTED PURPORTED
SALE. THE STADIUM VIOLATED BOTH
PROVISIONS OF THE SURPLUS LANDS
ACT AS A CONSEQUENCE, H C D
NOTIFIED THE CITY THAT THE CITY
OF ANAHEIM THAT THERE WAS A
VIOLATION THERE WAS CONVERSATION
OVER THE COURSE OF ABOUT A YEAR
OR SO. AND ULTIMATELY, THERE WAS
RESOLUTION. THAT RESOLUTION WAS
SIMPLY THAT THAT ANAHEIM PAY THE
FINE, WHICH IS SORT OF A WEIRD
DEAL WITH THE TAXPAYERS PAY A
FINE MOVES FROM ONE BUCKET TO
ANOTHER. AND WHAT THIS IS. WHAT
THIS BILL IS, IS AN EFFORT TO
CLOSE THAT LOOPHOLE. IT'S AN
EFFORT TO CLOSE THE LOOPHOLES SO
THAT WHEN HCG ISSUES VIOLATION
THAT YOU DON'T SIMPLY JUST GO
THROUGH THE TRANSACTION, FIND
YOURSELF AND MOVE IT FROM ONE
BUCKET TO ANOTHER. OTHERWISE IT
IS NO FORCE. NO EFFECT. THIS
BILL IS SIMPLY SIMPLY PERTAINS.
TO
ORANGE-COUNTY-REGISTER-TOO-SOON-COUNTY-VOTE-CENTERS
. AND THESE ARE BEING PUT UPON
BECAUSE IT'S ONLY. AND WHAT IT
DOES IS, IT SIMPLY SAYS LOOK AT
IF YOU GET IF YOU GET ISSUED A
VIOLATION YOU GET 60 DAYS
SECURITY. IF YOU DON'T CURE IT,
THEN THEN YOU CAN'T GO THROUGH
THE TRANSACTION. UM WITH ME HERE
TO TESTIFY, UM, IN SUPPORT. IS
ANDREW DAWSON. I THINK. WE WERE
JUST DOWNSTAIRS IN, UH IN LOCAL,
UM IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND THANK
YOU, MR GOSSIP FOR RUNNING UP
HERE WITH ME. THANK YOU.
ELEVATOR IS A LITTLE BIT FASTER
THAN THAT. WAS IT? UM HI,
EVERYONE. I'M ANDREW DAWSON WITH
THE CUP AND HOUSING PARTNERSHIP.
UM HERE TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OF
SB 34. THE SURPLUS LAND ACT IS A
SUPER IMPORTANT ACT FOR A
GOVERNING HOW PUBLIC AGENCIES
DEAL WITH SURPLUS LAND AND
OFFERING US THE AFFORDABLE
HOUSING, WHICH IS A GREAT SOURCE
OF LAND FOR US FOR NONPROFIT,
AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPERS.
UM. THIS BILL WOULD HELP WITH
MAKING SURE THIS EPISODE AND ACT
IS ENFORCED WELL, ESPECIALLY IN
SITUATIONS LIKE THE ANAHEIM
STADIUM. UM AND WITH THAT, I
LIKE TO CLOSE AND RESPECT TO ASK
ME EITHER. GREAT THANKS ANY
OTHER THAT PRIMARY WITNESSES
OTHER PRIMARY WITNESSES AS
ANYBODY ELSE OR ANYBODY ELSE IN
SUPPORT, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME
AND AFFILIATION FOR THE RECORD.
THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING, JANICE
STANDIFORD ON BEHALF OF ATTORNEY
GENERAL ROB BONTA AND SUPPORT
THANK YOU. GREAT, THANKS. ANY
OTHER SUPPORTERS. RIGHT SEEING
NONE. ANY PRIMARY WITNESSES AND
OPPOSITION. LOOKS LIKE THEY TOOK
THE FAST ELEVATOR ALSO SO
ACTUALLY, THEY WERE JUST RIGHT
BEHIND YOU THE WHOLE ENTIRE TIME
. SURE THEY DIDN'T MISS DRAFTING
OFF OF ME. GOOD MORNING, MR
CHAIR MEMBERS, ERIN AVERY WITH
THE CALIFORNIA SPECIAL DISTRICTS
ASSOCIATION, REPRESENTING
APPROXIMATELY 1000 LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS, USING THEIR LANDS
TO PROVIDE ESSENTIAL SERVICES
FROM WATER, TWO WASTEWATER TO
FIRE PROTECTION. I WANT TO THANK
THE AUTHOR AND HIS STAFF AND THE
COMMITTEE STAFF FOR MEETING WITH
US AND WORKING WITH US AS THIS
BILL HAS PROGRESSED. HOWEVER WE
RESPECTFULLY HAVE AN OPPOSING
LESS AMENDED POSITION ON THIS
BILL, AND I'M CONFINED MY
REMARKS RIGHT NOW. RIGHT NOW TO
SP 34. I HAVE ADDITIONAL REMARKS
ON SB 2 TO 9, WHICH IS SIMILAR.
I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT WE
UNDERSTAND RESPECT, SENATOR UM
BERG'S DESIRE FOR ADDITIONAL
TRANSPARENCY ARE CONCERNED WITH
THIS BILL IS IT'S REFERENCE TO
AN APPLICATION TO NOTICES OF
VIOLATION RECEIVED FROM HCG IN
CONNECTION WITH THE SALES OR
LEASES OF SURPLUS LAND AND IN
PARTICULAR THE USE OF THE WORD
LEASES. THE CLEAR ESTABLISHED
INTENT OF THE LEGISLATURE IS NOT
TO APPLY THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE
CELL, A TWO SURPLUS LAND
DISPOSALS OR RATHER TO SURPLUS
LAND. THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE L
A TO SURPLUS LAND TO LEASES AND
I'LL SHARE TWO EXAMPLES. IN 2019
, AS INTRODUCED A B 14 86 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S TING. PROPOSED
TO DEFINE DISPOSE. IN THE
SURPLUS LAND ACT AND TO INCLUDE
LEASES IN THAT DEFINITION.
ABROAD LOCAL AGENCY COALITION
OPPOSED THIS INCLUSION IN
EXPANSION AND CONSEQUENTLY,
LEASES WERE AMENDED OUT OF THAT
BILL BEFORE IT BECAME LAW.
ANOTHER EXAMPLE JUST THIS YEAR
AND ACTUALLY, ANOTHER BILL
THAT'S UP IN COMMITTEE TODAY IN
THIS COMMITTEE IS SB 7 47 BY
SENATOR CABALLERO. THIS IS A
BILL THAT IS SEEKING TO BRING
ENTRY OF SPECIFIED LEASES INTO
THE S L. A FURTHER INDICATING
THEIR ABSENCE UNDER CURRENT LAW.
FURTHER THIS BILL SIMPLY APPLIES
TO ALL LEASES, NOT LONG TERM
LEASES. THEREFORE UNDER THIS
BILL, LOCAL AGENCIES WOULD BE
REQUIRED TO RESPOND AND NOTICES
OF VIOLATION FOR HDD FOR ALL
LEASES. WHEN LEASES ARE NOT
COVERED BY THE S L. A THE
ESCALATOR IS NOT A MODEL OF
CLARITY. UNFORTUNATELY THIS BILL
WOULD ADD TO THAT LACK OF
CLARITY. WE THEREFORE ASK THAT
THE BILLS REFERENCE TO LISA'S BE
STRUCK WEEKEND. THINK THE AUTHOR
FOR HIS WILLINGNESS TO WORK WITH
US AND OBVIOUSLY WILL CONTINUE
TO WORK WITH HIS OFFICE. BUT AT
THIS TIME RESPECTFULLY ASKED FOR
A NO VOTE. THANK YOU. THANKS ANY
OTHER WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION?
CHRIS LEE ON BEHALF OF THE URBAN
COUNTIES OF CALIFORNIA WITH AN
OPPOSING LESS EMITTED POSITION.
THANKS. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER
OPPOSITION ON THIS MEASURE.
ALRIGHT SEEING NONE ANY
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM
COMMITTEE MEMBERS? I WANT TO
MOVE THE BILL AND I SUPPORT THE
BILL. I KNOW THAT THE LEAST
CONCERN IS A CONCERN, BUT A
BIGGER CONCERN IS, UH, TAKING
SURPLUS LAND AND NOT USING IT OR
GOING THROUGH THE PROCESSES THAT
HAVE BEEN SPELLED OUT BY
LEGISLATION. UH I DO REPRESENT
PARTS OF ANAHEIM. AND CERTAINLY
IT'S BEEN A VERY LENGTHY AND
LONG, UH. DISCUSSION RELATED TO
ALL OF THE ACCUSATIONS THAT WENT
DOWN RELATED TO THAT PROPERTY.
BUT IN THE END, IT'S ULTIMATELY
THE TAXPAYERS AND ARE LOSING OUT
AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE
DOING EVERYTHING TO GUARD
AGAINST THAT. SO WITH THAT I
MOVED THE BILL. RIGHT? OKAY. ANY
OTHER IS THERE A SECOND? ANY
OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. ALRIGHT
SEEING NONE. I HAVE A COUPLE
QUESTIONS READING THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL'S LETTER HERE. AH, UM.
AND OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN'T SPEAK TO
THE ATTORNEY GENERAL. BUT IT
MENTIONS THAT AFTER THE NOTICE
OF VIOLATION WAS SENT, UM. THAT
IT WAS RESCINDED AFTER THE
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE STARTED TO
ENFORCE THE PENALTY PROVISIONS.
SO THEY SEEM TO INDICATE TO ME
THAT THERE ARE SOME KIND OF
PENALTY PROVISIONS ASSOCIATED
WITH THAT. AND ARE YOU SAYING IT
WAS JUSTIFYING OR SO THE CROWD.
HE IS THAT? UM YES, THERE WAS A
SETTLEMENT ENTERED WITH H C D.
AND THIS IS MY VIEW IS THAT THAT
SETTLEMENT WAS JUST BASICALLY
MOVING MONEY FROM ONE BUCKET TO
ANOTHER BUCKET. BUT WHAT
HAPPENED WAS IS THAT AND SHORT
ORDER AFTER THE SETTLEMENT WAS
ENTERED INTO, I THINK IT WAS
WITHIN 24 HOURS. THE FBI
RELEASED SEVERAL AFFIDAVITS THAT
DEMONSTRATED THAT THERE WAS
COLLUSIVE BEHAVIOR IN TERMS OF
THE TERMS OF THE ACTUAL SALE.
AND SO AT THAT POINT, UM IT SORT
OF BLEW UP. YEAH. AND. BUT ARE
YOU ARE YOU SAYING THERE'S NOT
ENOUGH ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM
UNDER CURRENT LAW, BUT THAT'S
CORRECT. YES, ALL RIGHT. UM AND
LAST QUESTION WHY, UH, YOU
ANSWERED IT A LITTLE BIT WHEN
YOU SAID YOU THINK THERE SHOULD
BE A BROADER BILL, BUT, YOU
KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, ANAHEIM WAS
HAVING THIS ISSUE IN WHICH YOU
THINK TAXPAYER DOLLARS WERE AT
RISK. BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S THE
WHOLE COUNTY. RIGHT? SO, UM I
DON'T SEE THEIR POSITION ON THIS
BILL. I DON'T THINK I THINK WE
HAVE THE ASSOCIATION ONE OF THE
ASSOCIATIONS, BUT DID YOU HAVE
ANY CONTEXT ON? I DEFINITELY
THINK IT SHOULD APPLY STATEWIDE
. BUT THIS WE'VE BEEN AT THIS
FOR A WHILE. AND, UM IT'S TRUE.
PREVIOUS NEGOTIATIONS. WE AGREED
TO LIMIT IT TO GREAT. I DON'T
KNOW IF THAT'S A YAHOO! AH,
OKAY. GREAT. ANY OTHER ANYTHING
ELSE? ALRIGHT IF YOU'D LIKE TO
CLOSE. I WANT TO. I WANT TO
THANK MR WERTHEIM FOR WORKING ON
THIS BILL WITH US. WE'VE BEEN
DOING THIS FOR A LITTLE WHILE.
ALSO WANT TO THANK SOMEBODY
MEMBER QUIRK-SILVA FOR HER
LEADERSHIP ON THIS VERY, VERY
IMPORTANT ISSUE. UH THE
OPPONENTS HAVE RAISED THE ISSUE
OF AMBIGUITY AND LEASES. I DON'T
THINK IT'S AMBIGUOUS. BUT THIS
BILL DEFINITELY CLEARS IT UP.
LEASES ARE INCLUDED, TOO.
ELIMINATE ANY DOUBT NOW SHOULD
ALL LEASES BE INCLUDED. UM WE
TRIED TO NEGOTIATE WHAT LISA'S
SHOULD BE IN AND SHOULDN'T BE
OUT OF FIVE YEAR LEASE FOR
$200,000 PARCEL OF PROPERTY. I'M
NOT SURE IT NEEDS TO GO THROUGH
THE ALL THE PROCESSES FOR
SURPLUS LANDS ACT YOU MAY NOT BE
MAY NOT EVEN BE BIG ENOUGH TO
PROVIDE FOR ANY HOUSING. UM BUT
WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO ACHIEVE
SOME SORT OF UNDERSTANDING AS TO
WHAT'S IN AND WHAT'S OUT. SO
RIGHT NOW EVERYTHING IS IN
LEASES ARE CRITICALLY IMPORTANT
BECAUSE THE DISPOSAL OF LAND
OVER A LONG TERM LEASE IS THE
EQUIVALENT OF A SALE. AND
INDEED, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT'S
HAPPENING IN MANY, MANY, IF NOT
MOST TRANSACTIONS, SO, YES, I DO
WANT LISA'S IN, BUT THERE'S A
MAN ABILITY TO FURTHER DEFINING
IT. AND WITH THAT, I URGE AND I
VOTE. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A
MOTION AND A SECOND AND WE TAKE
ROLE TO PASS TO THE ASSEMBLY.
COMEDIAN APPROPRIATIONS WEEKS.
PATERSON PERSON. NO KOREA
CARILLO. AYE, GRAYSON GRACE AND
I CHOLERA. CHOLERA I QUIRK-SILVA
QUIRK-SILVA AYE SANCHEZ SANCHEZ
, NO WAR OR DIE. YOU OKAY? GREAT
IT'S OUT. 52 WILL KEEP KEEP KEEP
IT OPEN. BUT YOU HAVE ANOTHER
BILL UP, WHICH IS SP 2 TO 9.
YES. SB 2 TO 9 IS IN THE SAME
CONTEXT. SO UH, TO FURTHER
EXPLAIN WHAT HAPPENED AND WHY
IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE CLOSE
THIS LOOPHOLE IS THAT AFTER THE
VIOLATION, AND THERE WAS A
SETTLEMENT THAT SETTLEMENT WAS
ENTERED INTO AND THEN PROVIDED
TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITHIN I
BELIEVE 24 HOURS, MAYBE 48
HOURS. MR BOWIE TELLS ME IT'S 24
. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, UH, AND
THE PURPOSE IS THE PURPOSE OF
THIS 14 DAY PERIOD IS TO ALLOW
THE COMMUNITY TO BE ABLE TO TAKE
A LOOK AT THE AT THE SETTLEMENT
TO SEE IF IT'S FAIR FOR
TAXPAYERS IN PARTICULAR. UM IT
IS AN EFFORT TO ADD SOME
TRANSPARENCY TO WHAT WAS
FORMALLY PERMITTED, AS IS
ILLUSTRATED BY THE COLLUSIVE
BEHAVIOR BY THE FORMER MAYOR AND
OTHER FORMER OFFICIALS. I
LEARNED I VOTE WITH ME HERE
TESTIFY AS I SAID EARLIER. I'M
HOPING AND SUPPORT IS MR TONY
BUI. UM CHAIR AND COMMITTEE
MEMBERS TELLING ME WITH THE
CALIFORNIA APARTMENT ASSOCIATION
HERE IN STRONG SUPPORT OF SB 2
TO 9. THIS ONE ASSURES LAWS ON
THE BOOKS TO ADDRESS THE HOUSING
PRODUCTION SHORTAGE ACROSS THE
STATE WORKS AS ORIGINALLY
INTENDED. UM THE AUTHOR MENTAL
PREVIOUSLY THAT THE BILL WILL
INCREASE PUBLIC TRANSPARENCY,
WHICH IS CRUCIAL TO ENSURE THAT
THE LAWS ON THE BOOKS DO WORK,
BUT IN WHICH TO THAT BILL IS IN
RESPONSE TO A SPECIFIC INCIDENT
AS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED IN
ANAHEIM, WHERE NEGOTIATIONS OF
STADIUM BROKE PUBLIC TRUST IN
ADDITION TO VALLEY IN THE LAW,
RIGHT, UM PUBLIC TRUST THAT CAN
BE RESTORED BY PASSING SB 2 TO 9
AND LASTLY, THE BILL PROTECTS
TAXPAYER DOLLARS VIOLATIONS OF
THE SURPLUS LAND ACT GENERALLY
OFTEN INVOLVED TAXPAYER DOLLARS
REQUIREMENT FOR ADDITIONAL OPEN
HEARINGS AND NOTICE WILL ENSURE
THAT DECISIONS ARE MADE WITH
PUBLIC ACCOUNTABILITY. AND ALL
THAT SAID, ASK FOR MY VOTE AT
THE APPROPRIATE TIME. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT? MY NAME DENNIS STANFORD
ON BEHALF OF ATTORNEY GENERAL
ROB BONTA AND SUPPORT THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. INTRODUCING THE
CARBON HOUSING PARTNERSHIP IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU ANY WITNESSES
IN OPPOSITION? COULD HAVE JUST
STAYED UP HERE, YOU KNOW. THANK
YOU AGAIN, MR CHAIR ERIN AVERY
WITH THE CALIFORNIA SPECIAL
DISTRICTS ASSOCIATION AGAIN. I
WANT TO THANK THE AUTHOR FOR HIS
WILLINGNESS TO MEET WITH US AND
TALK ABOUT THIS BILL AND HIS
STAFF HAVE BEEN GREAT TO WORK
WITH AS WELL. ALSO, THE
COMMITTEE STAFF, MR WERTHEIM,
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. HOWEVER
AGAIN, WE STILL HAVE A
RESPECTFUL OPPOSED UNLESS
AMENDED POSITION ON THIS BILL.
THIS BILL IS SIMILAR TO SB 34
BUT WITH DIFFERENT PROCEDURES
AND APPLICABLE TO ALL LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS ARE CONCERNS WITH
THIS BILL ARE THREEFOLD NUMBER
ONE, THE EXACT SAME ISSUE WITH
LEASES THAT I JUST ADDRESSED ON
SP 34. I WON'T REHASH ALL THOSE
POINTS HERE AGAIN. IT'S THE SAME
ARGUMENT WE'D LIKE TO SEE THAT
STRUCK FROM THE BILL. NUMBER
TWO. THIS BILL HAS AN IMPORTANT
DISTINCTION FROM SP 34 THAT WE
THINK REALLY NEEDS TO BE
RECTIFIED. SP 34 APPLIES, UH,
PROCEDURES LOCAL GOVERNMENTS
NEED TO FILE WHEN THEY RECEIVE A
NOTICE OF VIOLATION FROM H CITY
IN CONNECTION WITH THE SALE OR
LEASE OF SURPLUS LAND. THIS BILL
SB 2 TO 9 APPLIES THOSE
PROCEDURES WHEN THEY NOTICE OF
VIOLATION IS RECEIVED IN
CONNECTION WITH IS SALE OR LEASE
OF A PARCEL. IT DOES NOT SAY A
PARCEL OF SURPLUS LAND AND WE
THINK THAT'S A REALLY CRITICAL
DISTINCTION, AND IT'S
PROBLEMATIC. THE S L. A IS NOT A
MODEL OF CLARITY. IT'S
HYPERTECHNICAL. AND EVERY WORD
HAS SIGNIFICANCE. THIS BILL
SHOULD CLEARLY STATE THAT IT
APPLIES TO SURPLUS LAND
DISPOSALS TO AVOID ANY CONFUSION
THAT IT MAY HAVE APPLICATION
BEYOND THAT. TO THAT POINT, I
NOTE THAT EXEMPT SURPLUS LAND
DISPOSALS ARE EXPLICITLY NOT
SUBJECT TO THE S L A. SO THERE'S
A THERE'S A REASON WHY THIS
WORDING IS REALLY IMPORTANT
HERE. WE'RE ALSO AS MY THIRD
POINT OF CONCERN WITH THE BILL
SEEKING FLEX FLEXIBILITY AND
SOME OF THE PROCEDURAL
REQUIREMENTS OF THE BILL NUMBER
ONE. WE'RE SEEKING AN OFFERING
FROM THE LOCAL AGENCY HAVING TO
HOLD THE PUBLIC MEETING. IF,
AFTER RECEIVING THIS NOTICE OF
VIOLATION, IT ELECTS NOT TO
PROCEED WITH THE TRANSACTION.
SENATOR UMBERG JUST CONFIRMED IN
THE FIRST COMMITTEE THAT THIS
BILL HAS HEARD IN TODAY THAT
HE'S GOING TO BE TAKING AN
AMENDMENT TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE,
AND I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK
YOU. THE SECOND IS WE'RE SEEKING
ADDITIONAL FLEXIBILITY IN THE
FORMAT IN WHICH THESE NOTICES OF
VIOLATION NEED TO BE CONSIDERED
BY LOCAL AGENCY IN THIRD. IT'S A
MINOR FIX. THIS BILL REQUIRES
POSTING ON LOCAL AGENCY WEBSITES
OF THE NOTICE OF THESE MEETINGS
OCCURRING TO CONSIDER THESE
NOTICES OF VIOLATION. NOT ALL
LOCAL AGENCIES ARE REQUIRED TO
MAINTAIN WEBSITES. SO THERE ARE
SOME LOCAL AGENCIES THAT CANNOT
COMPLY WITH THE PROVISIONS OF
THIS BILL. AGAIN THANK YOU TO
THE AUTHOR FOR WORKING WITH US.
THANK YOU TO THE COMMITTEE STAFF
FOR WORKING WITH US AS WELL. AT
THIS TIME. WE RESPECTFULLY
ASKING FOR A NO VOTE. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION CHRISLEY ON BEHALF OF
THE URBAN COUNTIES OF
CALIFORNIA, OPPOSING LESS
AMENDED WHAT IS URBAN COUNTIES
ON BEHALF OF THE IMPERIAL
IRRIGATION DISTRICT APOSTLE S
AMENDED. FINALLY AGAIN ON BEHALF
OF MESA WATER DISTRICT,
RESPECTFULLY OPPOSED UNLESS
AMANDA THANK YOU. THANK YOU
SEEING NO OTHERS. ARE THERE ANY
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM MY
COLLEAGUES? WELL, THAT'S GOOD.
UM. WELL I APPRECIATE YOU
BRINGING THIS TO US. I THINK I
AM PERSONALLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE
CONCEPT. I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS
WITH, UM JUST THE BROAD
DEFINITION OF WHO WOULD GET THIS
NOTICE WHEN A PARCEL IS IF IT
WAS RESTRICTED. THIS IS MY
PERSONAL VIEW. OF COURSE. YOU
KNOW THE S L A, YOU KNOW,
VIOLATIONS OF SURPLUS LAND? AYE.
MY BE ABLE TO PERSONALLY GET TO
SUPPORT POSITION ON IT. UM AND I
THINK MOST OF THESE HAVING BEEN
ON A CITY COUNCIL, MOST OF THESE
NOTICES AND HEARINGS WILL HAPPEN
IN A NORMAL CITY COUNCIL
MEETING, OR, UM, YOU KNOW, WATER
DISTRICT MEETING OR WHATNOT, BUT
BUT IS THERE A MOTION? RIGHT?
GREAT THANK YOU. AND WITH THAT.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE? YES
THANK YOU AGAIN, MR WERTHEIM FOR
YOUR HELP ON THIS OVER THE LAST
COUPLE OF YEARS. THANK YOU FOR
YOUR LEADERSHIP ONE MORE TIME.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S QUIRK-SILVA. UM
A COUPLE OF THINGS ONE IS
POINTED OUT. WE ARE GOING TO
MAKE SURE THAT IF A ENTITY
DECIDES NOT TO GO THROUGH WITH
THE SAILOR LEASE THAT THEY NEED
NOT HAVE A MEETING, UM, TO
BASICALLY CONFIRMED THAT THEY'RE
NOT GOING TO DO IT. AH I DO
BELIEVE, THOUGH, THAT IF A
GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY IS GOING TO
DISPOSE OF, AND WHATEVER FASHION
OF A PERSON OF LAND THE
COMMUNITY SHOULD KNOW, I DIDN'T
REALIZE THAT SOME SPECIAL
DISTRICTS APPARENTLY DON'T
NOTIFY ANYONE IF YOU DON'T HAVE
A WEBSITE THAT YOU DON'T
COMMUNICATE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO
SELL A PARCEL OF LAND OTHER THAN
PERHAPS, YOU KNOW, LEGAL NOTICE
IN THE BACK OF THE PENNYSAVER.
THEN YOU'RE REALLY NOT TELLING
THE PUBLIC AND SO TO THE EXTENT
THAT SPECIAL DISTRICTS DO NOT
HAVE A WEBSITE THAT THEY DO NOT
TELL ANYONE. I WOULD RECOMMEND
THAT THEY ACTUALLY IF THEY WANT
TO DISPOSE OF PROPERTY THAT THEY
ACTUALLY GET A WEBSITE, UM AND
SO THAT THE PUBLIC DOES. NO BUT
THIS SIMPLY SAYS YOU GET 14 DAYS
THE PUBLIC GETS 14 DAYS TO
EXAMINE THE SETTLEMENT AND
PROVIDE THEIR THEIR POINT OF
VIEW AS TO WHETHER OR NOT FAIR
OR NOT, UM, AS AS ILLUSTRATED IN
ANAHEIM THAT THAT THAT
SETTLEMENT WAS ARGUABLY NOT FAIR
AND WITH ONLY 24 HOURS TO WEIGH
IN THAT DID NOT PROVIDE ADEQUATE
TRANSPARENCY, URGE AND I VOTE.
THANK YOU. UM WE HAVE A MOTION
AND A SECOND AND WE COULD TAKE
ROLL MOTION TO PASS TO THE
ASSEMBLY. COMEDIAN
APPROPRIATIONS WEEKS, PATERSON
BORING. KOREA KOREA, I, GRAYSON
GRACE AND I CHOLERA. CHOLERA. I
QUIRK-SILVA. I'M SORRY,
QUIRK-SILVA. AYE SANCHEZ SANCHEZ
. NO WARD. AYE. TAKE 451.
ALRIGHT THAT BILL IS ALSO OUT.
WE'LL KEEP IT OPEN. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU.
YOU SIT AT THE TABLE. DAVE, DAVE
DAVE. THANKS USED DAVE TABLE.
THERE WE GO. THANK YOU. UM THANK
YOU FOR BEING HERE AND, UH, WE
HAVE SB 7 45. THANK YOU, MR
CHAIR. YES I'M HERE TO PRESENT
SB 7 45, AND I APPRECIATE YOU
AND THE MEMBERS ALLOWING ME TO
DO THAT. WE CALL IT THE DROUGHT
RESULT. RESILIENT. BUILDINGS
ACT. TO TACKLE THE ANTICIPATED
WATER SHORTAGES IN CALIFORNIA,
CAUSED BY GLOBAL CLIMATE CHANGE.
SB 7 45 REQUIRES THAT THE
CALIFORNIA BUILDING STANDARDS
COMMISSION DEVELOPED BUILDING
STANDARDS TO REDUCE THE DESIGN
POTABLE WATER DEMAND IN NEW
BUILDINGS. IN ADDITION, SB 7 45
REQUIRES ADOPTION OF MODEL
ORDINANCE, LANGUAGE AND GUIDANCE
TO STREAMLINE LOCAL
IMPLEMENTATION. OF THE ON SITE
TREATED GRAY WATER. LOCAL
PROGRAM REQUIREMENTS SET FORTH
WATER CODE SECTION. 13 5 58.
THESE INITIATIVES WILL BE FUNDED
THROUGH THE EXISTING BUILDING
STANDARDS. AH EXCUSE ME, THE
BUILDING CENTERS ADMINISTRATION
SPECIAL REVOLVING FUND. AND THAT
PROVIDES FUNDS TO CALIFORNIA
BUILDING STANDARDS COMMISSION
FOR THE SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT OF
SUSTAINING BUILDING STANDARDS.
THE IMPACT OF CLIMATE CHANGE IS
PROJECTED TO DIMINISH
CALIFORNIA'S WATER SUPPLIES BY
UP TO 10% BY 2040. THAT'S NOT.
AND THEN KNOWN STATISTIC, BUT
IT'S WORTH REPEATING FROM TIME
TO TIME, CONSIDERING THAT
BUILDINGS REMAIN IN USE FOR
SEVERAL DECADES BEFORE BEING
REPLACED. CALIFORNIA MUST
PROACTIVELY ADAPT TO THE
CHALLENGES POSED BY CLIMATE
CHANGE BY REDUCING THE EXPECTED
DEMAND FOR POTABLE WATER IN NEW
CONSTRUCTION, STARTING NOW. I DO
ACCEPT THE TECHNICAL AMENDMENTS
MADE BY THIS COMMITTEE. I
APPRECIATE THE COMMITTEE'S
ANALYSIS AND WORK ON THE BILL.
AND WITH THAT. I WANT TO TURN IT
OVER IF I MAY. TO OUR WITNESSES
, SCOTT WITCH AND THOMAS IN SLOW
AND MR WHICH IS HERE TO
REPRESENT THE CALIFORNIA STATE
PIPE STREETS. COUNCIL THANK YOU
. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND TWO
MINUTES EACH, PLEASE. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, MR CHAIR AND MEMBERS
SCOTT WEST ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA STATE PAIN TRADES
COUNCIL LIKE TO ALSO THANK THE
STAFF WHO HAVE WORKED REALLY
COLLABORATIVELY WITH US ON ON
THIS. THIS BILL AND THE AUTHOR
FOR INTRODUCING IT. THERE'S BEEN
SOME MISREPRESENTATION BY SOME
ABOUT WHAT THIS BILL ATTEMPTS TO
DO. UM THIS BILL IS NOT A BILL
THAT CONFLICTS WITH PASSED
LEGISLATION RELATIVE TO
ADDRESSING WATER USAGE BY
OCCUPANTS. THIS IS A BUILDING
STANDARDS BILL TO IMPROVE THE
DESIGN OF NEW BUILDINGS, NOT
EXISTING BUILDINGS. BUT NEW
BUILDINGS. UM FOR A COUPLE OF
REASONS. IF YOU JUST LOOK AT THE
SWING SPACE IF WE IF THAT BILL
THAT BUILDING HAD BEEN DESIGNED
UM, UNDER A SACRAMENTO ORDINANCE
THAT ALLOWS IT TO, UM TO TAKE
ALL THE GRAY WATER THAT JUST
COMES FROM SINKS IN THAT
BUILDING, TREATED IN A VERY
COMPACT TREATMENT SYSTEM THAT
YOU CAN YOU CAN OBTAIN AND THEN
USED IT JUST IN WATER CLOSETS,
MEETING TOILETS AND URINALS.
JUST THAT BUILDING THAT WE ALL
USE EVERY DAY. WE COULD SAVE
TENS OF MILLIONS OF GALLONS OF
WATER. THE SECOND PURPOSE OF THE
BILL IS THAT IF WE GET TO A 0.1
DAY, WHICH WILL HAVE TO WHERE WE
HAVE REALLY ROBUST MUNICIPAL
WATER REUSE PROGRAMS, WE HAVE
PURPLE PIPE RUNNING THROUGHOUT
OUR CITIES. YOU CAN'T JUST GO
CONNECT TO A BUILDING AND USE
THAT GRAY WATER IF THE BUILDING
HASN'T BEEN DESIGNED TO RECEIVE
IT, SO IT'S ABOUT GETTING AHEAD
OF THE CURVE. AND WHAT WE REALLY
TRIED HARD TO DO IS TO NOT BE
PRESCRIPTIVE IN THIS BILL, BUT
FOR THE LEGISLATURE IN ITS
APPROPRIATE RESPONSIBILITY TO
DIRECT THE BUILDING STANDARDS
COMMISSION TO COME TO UPGRADE
BUILDING STANDARDS WITHOUT
TELLING HIM WHICH STANDARDS BUT
TO UPGRADE THEM TO MAKE OUR
BUILDINGS MORE WATER EFFICIENT
AND RESILIENT. THAT'S WHAT THE
BILL DOES. OPPOSITION BY THE
WATER DISTRICTS IS FOCUSED ON
THE FACT THAT WHEN YOU DISTILL
IT DOWN UM, THAT. THEY'RE
CONCERNED THAT IF BUILDINGS ARE
MADE MORE WATER EFFICIENT, THEN
THERE'LL BE LESS WATER FOR THEM
ONE DAY TO BE ABLE TO CONSERVE
THROUGH MUNICIPAL WATER
CONSERVATION PROGRAMS. WELL, I
THINK WE SHOULD BE HITTING EVERY
FRONT. TO SAVE EVERY DROP OF
WATER AND EVERY POINT THAT WE
CAN SO WE PLEASE URGENT. I VOTE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
TOM INSEL ON BEHALF OF THE
INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF
PLUMBING, MECHANICAL OFFICIALS,
AND ALSO A BLUEGREEN ALLIANCE
ASKED ME TO PROVIDE THEIR
SUPPORT TODAY SINCE THEY CAN'T
MAKE IT TO THIS HEARING. UM THIS
IS REALLY IMPORTANT BILL,
CALIFORNIA'S POPULATION IS
EXPECTED TO GROW FROM 40 MILLION
TO 60 MILLION BY 2050.
SACRAMENTO ALONE ESTIMATES ITS
URBAN WATER DEMANDS CAN INCREASE
BY 30% BY 2045. YET AT THE SAME
TIME BECAUSE OF GLOBAL WARMING,
WE'RE PROJECTING CURRENT SOURCES
OF WATER OF AVAILABLE PORTABLE
WATER TO DECLINE BY 15. AND AS
SCOTT SAID, THIS NEEDS TO BE
ADDRESSED AND MULTIPLE LEVELS,
INCLUDING BOTH URBAN WATER USE
OBJECTIVES THAT THE UTILITIES
ARE ALREADY REQUIRED TO DO TO
ADAPT TO ADDRESS EXISTING USE,
BUT ALSO TO REDUCE NEW WATER
DEMAND FROM NEW BUILDINGS. THIS
IS NEW WATER DEMANDS THAT'S
COMING THAT WE DON'T HAVE WATER
FOR, UM AS SCOTT SAID SP 70. 7
25 DOES NOT MANDATE THE
INSTALLATION OF ANY PARTICULAR
TYPE OF WATER USE SYSTEMS. WE
HAVE THIS GO THROUGH THE
BUILDING STANDARDS PROCESS WITH,
YOU KNOW, WITH FOR BOTH H C D
AND THE BUILDING STANDS.
COMMISSION REQUIRES STAKEHOLDER
REVIEW. EXPERT CODE ADVISOR
REVIEW CONSULTATION WITH
APPROPRIATE AGENCIES, INCLUDING
THE WATER BOARD, AND THAT'S THE
THREE YEAR PROCESS. SO THAT
MEANS THE EARLIEST THAT ANY, UM
UH, ANY NEW STANDARDS COULD COME
OUT WOULD BE EFFECTIVE JANUARY
2026 SO, FOR EXAMPLE, THE SP 966
NEW STANDARDS THAT ARE COMING
OUT THIS YEAR AND WATER REUSE
TREATMENT STANDARDS, WHICH IS
JUST AN UPDATE OF EXISTING
STANDARDS THAT'S GOING TO BE IN
PLACE WELL BEFORE ANY OF THESE
STANDARDS GO INTO EFFECT. BUT IF
WE DON'T PASS THIS BILL THIS
YEAR, AND THEY DON'T START START
THAT PROCESS BECAUSE OF ITS A
THREE YEAR UPDATE ON THESE
CODES, IT WON'T BE UNTIL 2029
UNTIL WE HAVE STANDARDS IN SO
THERE IS SOME URGENCY TO GET
THIS OUT TODAY. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU ANY ANYBODY ELSE IN SUPPORT
OF THIS MEASURE? GOOD MORNING,
ERIN WILLEY ON BEHALF OF SIERRA
CLUB, CALIFORNIA AND SUPPORT.
ELENA PIERRE YOU ON BEHALF OF
THE BUILDING DECARBONIZATION
COALITION AND SUPPORT. THANK
YOU. DENIS O'CONNOR WITH HIM ON
A LAKE COMMITTEE AND SUPPORT
THANKS. UH SEEING NO OTHER
SUPPORTERS. ARE THERE. ANYBODY
IN OPPOSITION OF THIS MEASURE?
GOOD MORNING, MR MR CHAIR AND
MEMBERS. BETHEL ASO ON BEHALF OF
WATER EAST REUSE CALIFORNIA AND
THE ASSOCIATED CALIFORNIA
ASSOCIATION OF SANITATION
AGENCIES ASKED ME TO REGISTERED
OR OPPOSITION AS WELL.
APPRECIATE MR WHICH, TRYING TO
ARTICULATE WHAT OUR CONCERN WAS.
I'LL TAKE THIS TIME TO SHARE
WHAT OUR ACTUAL CONCERN IS. WE
ARE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF ON SITE
REUSE AS A TOOL TO BE EFFICIENT
IN WATER USED THROUGHOUT THE
STATE. UM AS EVERYBODY KNOWS, IN
THIS COMMITTEE, HYDROLOGY AND
HOW COMMUNITIES USE WATER
THROUGHOUT THE STATE IS VERY
DIFFERENT. SOME HAVE INVESTED
HEAVILY IN POTABLE REUSE, LIKE
IN SAN DIEGO, SOME, LIKE SAN
FRANCISCO, WHERE IT MAKES SENSE
TO DO ON SITE REUSE. THAT'S THE
THAT'S THE TOOL THAT THEY ARE
USING. UM SO WE THINK THIS IS ON
SITE REUSES ONE TOOL IN THE TOOL
SHED. IN THE IN THE TOOLBOX.
SHOULD THE CITY OF SACRAMENTO
HAD DECIDED THAT ON SITE REUSE
WAS THE PREFERRED METHOD OF
WATER USE EFFICIENCY, THEY COULD
HAVE REQUIRED THE SWING STATE
SPACE TO BE DUAL PLUMBED AND TO
CAPTURE AND TREAT THEIR WATER.
THEY CHOSE NOT TO DO THAT. UM
WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR VERY
SIMPLY, AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE
THE AMENDMENTS THAT THE AUTHOR
HAS TAKEN. THE BILL HAS MOVED.
VERY FAR IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION
. ALL WE'RE ASKING IS THAT THE
BUILDING STANDARDS COMMISSION?
UM KEEP EVERYTHING VOLUNTARY, SO
THE INDIVIDUAL COMMUNITIES CAN
PICK THE BEST WAY TO BE
EFFICIENT AND TO USE THEIR
WATER. SO WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR
THE ABILITY FOR THE BUILDING
STANDARDS COMMISSIONER, THE
DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TO NOT BE
ABLE TO REQUIRE TO MANDATE A ONE
SIZE FITS ALL FOR THE STATE. WE
WANT TO KEEP IT VOLUNTARY, WHERE
INCREDIBLY SUPPORTIVE OF A MODEL
ORDINANCE AND WE'VE WATER REUSE
HAS INVESTED HEAVILY IN THAT
PROCESS. UM SOMETHING. WE'RE
VERY, VERY SUPPORTIVE OF WANT TO
CONTINUE TO WORK WITH OUR
PARTNERS TO KEEP THIS VOLUNTARY
AND TO MAKE SURE ALL COMMUNITIES
ARE USING WATER EFFICIENTLY,
WHETHER IT'S THROUGH POTABLE
REUSE WITH PURPLE PIPE WITH RAW
WATER AUGMENTATION OR JUST
STRAIGHT UP CONSERVATION THAT
THAT'S WHERE OUR CONCERN IS JUST
TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WE'RE ALL
WORKING TOGETHER AND FIND THE
BEST WAY FOR RATEPAYER MONEY TO
BE USED IN EACH COMMUNITY.
APPRECIATE THE TIME. THANK YOU
FOR THAT ANYBODY ELSE IN
OPPOSITION? GOOD MORNING, MR
CHAIR AND MEMBERS DON GILBERT ON
BEHALF OF THE LOS ANGELES COUNTY
SANITATION DISTRICTS IN
OPPOSITION, FOR THE REASONS
STATED THANKS. GOOD MORNING, MR
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS ERIN AVERY WITH
THE CALIFORNIA SPECIAL DISTRICTS
ASSOCIATION, RESPECTFULLY WITH
AN IMPOSING LESS AMENDED
POSITION, AND I OUTLINED MY
COMMENTS WITH MISSILE LASSO.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM ANY
COMMENTS FROM COMMITTEE MEMBERS
? THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. I WANT TO
THANK THE SENATOR FOR BRINGING
THIS FORWARD. I KNOW THAT WE
HAVE SOME EXPERIENCE LOCALLY AND
SAN JOSE WITH PURPLE PIPES AND
KIND OF THE NEED FOR US KIND OF
TO HAVE ALL TOOLS AVAILABLE
BECAUSE FOR OUR SUSTAINABILITY
GOALS, ESPECIALLY, UM YOU KNOW
THE WAY THAT WE'RE SEEING WITH
CLIMATE CHANGE, AND ALTHOUGH WE
HAD A LOT OF RAIN THERE'S LAST
YEAR. WE ALSO KNOW THAT DROUGHTS
UM, ARE ALWAYS ON THE HORIZON IN
OUR STATE. UH AND SO I THINK
THIS IS GETTING AHEAD. BUT
USUALLY WE'RE PLAYING CATCH UP.
AND I THINK IN THIS CASE, UM YOU
KNOW, THIS IS A GOOD UM,
STRATEGY TO GET AHEAD AND TO
CREATE EXPECTATIONS FOR THOSE
GOING FORWARD AND BUILDING TO
MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING
EVERYTHING WE CAN TO HAVE AGAIN
ALL THE EFFECTIVE TOOLS THAT WE
CAN. THAT MAKES SENSE, TOO.
PRESERVE OUR WATER, AND I THINK
THIS WILL REALLY PUT CALIFORNIA
ON A GREAT PATH FORWARD IN OUR
IN OUR BUILDING STANDARDS AND SO
GRATEFUL OR GRATEFUL FOR THE
SENATOR HAPPY TO SUPPORT. THE
BILL MOVED THE BILL TODAY AND
WOULD LIKE TO BE ADDED TO GO OUT
THERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR
GRAYSON. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR AND
ALSO TO THE AUTHOR. THANK YOU
FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD, GREAT
CONCEPT AND IDEOLOGY BEHIND THIS
BILL. UM ALWAYS ALWAYS HAVE
WONDERED, WHY AREN'T WE DOING
SOMETHING WITH OUR GRAY WATER,
UH, TO RECYCLE IT ON SITE RATHER
THAN PUT IT OUT WITH THAT.
HAVING SAID THAT, AND I'M
FORGIVE ME. I AM SUBBING IN FOR
A MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE, SO I
HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DIG TOO DEEP
INTO THE WEEDS HERE. IS THIS
LIMITED TO COMMERCIAL OR I
NOTICED THAT THE ANALYSIS
MENTIONS HOUSING AS WELL. SO
WITH THE COMMISSION BE LOOKING
AT CODES THAT WOULD HAVE A BROAD
SPECTRUM FROM COMMERCIAL
BUILDINGS TO MULTI FAMILY TO
SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. YEAH, THE
SHORT ANSWER IS YES, AND LET THE
WITNESS RESPONDING MORE DETAIL
IF NECESSARY. ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
THANK YOU. YES AND SO THIS THIS
HAS THE BUILDING STANDARDS
COMMISSION, LOOKING AT THE NON
RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS AND THE
HOUSING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
LOOKING AT THE RESIDENTIAL, AS
IS AS THE COURT PROCESS ON SETS
FORTH. IT DOES HAVE SPECIFIC
LANGUAGE, SAYING THAT THEY NEED
TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION
IMPACTS IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING,
AND IT GIVES THEM BROAD
DISCRETION. I WOULD IMAGINE THAT
FOR LARGE COMMERCIAL THAT
PROBABLY BE STRONGER STANDARDS
AND FOR YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY
SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE. MAYBE
YOU WOULDN'T HAVE ANYTHING.
MAYBE YOU JUST HAVE A SIMPLE
GRAY WATER SYSTEM BUT THAT THESE
ARE ALL TECHNICAL QUESTIONS,
WHICH IS WHY WE WANTED TO GO
THROUGH THE TECHNICAL PROCESS.
RIGHT AND SO I APPRECIATE THAT,
UM, THE TECHNICALITY OF IT ALL
AND SO, AND I APPRECIATE OUR
AGENCIES, REGULATORY AND THOSE
THAT WILL DESIGN RESEARCH AND
DEVELOP CODES. AH AS A BUILDER
MYSELF. I APPRECIATE THOSE
CODES, ESPECIALLY WHEN I GO TO
OTHER AREAS OF THE WORLD THAT
DON'T SHARE THOSE CODES AND WE
SEE THE CONSEQUENCES OF THAT.
HAVING SAID THAT THE CONCERN
THAT I HAVE, UM, THAT COULD BE
ADDRESSED LATER ON. I WILL BE
SUPPORTING THE BILL. TODAY IS AN
EXAMPLE WOULD BE WHEN THE
COMMISSION, UH AUTHORIZED
ROOFTOP OR ACTUALLY MANDATED
ROOFTOP SOLAR FOR ALL
RESIDENTIAL, ONE OF THE THINGS
THAT WASN'T CONSIDERED AT THE
TIME WAS A LOT OF THOSE HOUSES
WERE GOING TO SELL WITH A 30
YEAR MORTGAGE. BUT THE LIFESPAN
OF THAT SOLAR THAT WAS PUT ON
THE ROOF. ONLY HAD A 15 YEAR
LIFESPAN. SO THE PERSON ABOUT
THAT HOUSE WAS GOING TO SPEND
THE LAST 15 YEARS OF THAT
MORTGAGE, PAYING FOR SOMETHING
THAT WAS NO LONGER IN EXISTENCE
AND GONE. AND SO I'M JUST I AM
HOPEFUL THAT THE COMMISSION WILL
TAKE THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION
LIKE THAT, AND THEIR APPROACH
WOULD BE, UH, PROVIDING OPTIONS
AND REALLY LOOKING AT DIFFERENT
LEVELS OF DEVELOPMENT AND HOW
WHAT'S BEST TO INCORPORATE ON
THOSE DIFFERENT TIERS AND
DIFFERENT LEVELS? WHEN THEY DO
PROPOSE, UM, IDEAS COMING
FORWARD? IS IT LIMITED TO JUST
THE COMMISSION? APPROVING THOSE
NEW CODES FOR PROPOSAL OR WILL
THE LEGISLATURE HAVE AN
OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN AGAIN?
WELL, THE LEGISLATURE ALWAYS,
YOU KNOW, CONSTITUTIONALLY HAVE
AN OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN IF
THE COMMISSION GOES OFF IN A
DIRECTION, YOU KNOW THAT YOU OR
ANY OF US DOESN'T LIKE AND I
THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE MOST
BEAUTIFUL THINGS OF THE SYSTEM
UP HERE. I HAVE SOME CRITICISMS
OF THE SYSTEM, BUT THAT'S ONE OF
THE BEAUTIFUL THINGS WE CAN COME
BACK AND UM, YOU KNOW, AND
ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES. I THINK
IT'S A GREAT POINT. AND IT ALSO
SAY WE HAVEN'T TAKEN ON, YOU
KNOW OPPOSITION FROM THE
BUILDING INDUSTRY RELATIVE TO
SOME OF THOSE ISSUES. UM BUT
IT'S A IT'S A GREAT ISSUE TO
GIVE SOME THOUGHT TO AND WILL
CONTINUE TO DO THAT HERE IN THE
REMAINING PERIOD IN THE SESSION,
UM THIS ISSUE OF AMORTIZED COST
OVER TIME, AND IF THERE'S
SOMETHING WE COULD DO WITH IT,
OR IF THAT'S JUST ANOTHER BILL
THAT NEEDS TO COME IN AND MAYBE
ATTACK THE PROBLEM. YOU KNOW, IN
A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT WAY
ON A GRANT PROGRAM SIDE OR
SOMETHING. I DON'T WANT TO GO
TOO FAR IN MY RESPONSE BECAUSE I
HAVEN'T THOUGHT THROUGH THE
EXCELLENT POINT THAT YOU MADE
TODAY. BUT WE WILL. WE WILL
THANK YOU SO MUCH. I THINK
THAT'S A GREAT ANSWER ALSO TO
THE OPPOSITION IN THE
LEGISLATURE ALWAYS HAS AN
OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN IF
THINGS DON'T GO A CERTAIN WAY,
SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU, MR
CHAIR AND THANK YOU TO THE
SENATOR FOR BRINGING THIS
IMPORTANT PIECE OF LEGISLATION
FORWARD. I JUST WANT TO COMMENT
ON A COMMENT MINT MADE BY MR
WHICH AND OUR SWING SPACE. I
THINK THAT WE THINK ABOUT
POLICIES IN WAYS THAT ARE
TRANSFORMATIVE FUTURE THINKING.
WE THE LEGISLATURE JUST IS USING
THAT BUILDING AND CREATED THAT
BUILDING IN A SPACE AS WE
REMODEL. THE CAPITOL BUILDING.
AS YOU KNOW, I WALKED DOWN THE
ANNEX AND SEE THAT IT'S YOU
KNOW, HALFWAY TORN DOWN. BUT I
WOULD I WOULD SAY THAT AS WE
DEVELOPED IDEAS AND
OPPORTUNITIES FOR LEGISLATION
MOVING FORWARD, WE SHOULD MODEL
THOSE SAME EXPECTATIONS OF
OURSELVES. I'M NOT SURE AT THE
MOMENT IF THE NEW UM ANNEX
BUILDING THE NEW ADDITION TO THE
TO THE CAPITOL BUILDING WITH THE
NEW OFFICES THAT WILL BE IN
PLACE IN THE NEAR FUTURE HAS
EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT THAT. I DON'T
KNOW. IT'S SOMETHING THAT I
THINK IS A GOOD CONVERSATION TO
HAVE WITH OUR LEGISLATIVE BODY
WITH OUR RULES COMMITTEE, SO AS
WE IMPLEMENT POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS
AND IN WATER STORAGE AND
ENSURING THAT WE'RE NOT WASTING
WATER, WHY DON'T WE START WITH
OUR OWN HOUSE? AND SO I WOULD
JUST SAY THAT I THINK YOUR BILL
AND WHAT WE'VE DONE IS A GOOD
CONVERSATION FOR US TO HAVE
ABOUT BEING A MODEL FOR THE REST
OF THE STATE THAT IF WE CAN DO
IT IN THE PEOPLE'S HOUSE, IT CAN
BE DONE. IT CAN BE DONE
ELSEWHERE, SO I WOULD JUST SAY
THAT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY. FOR
YOUR BILL TO BE POTENTIALLY
IMPLEMENTED WITH THE NEW DESIGN
OF THE CAPITOL BUILDING. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? RIGHT
WELL, I WASN'T PLANNING ON
TALKING AT ALL TODAY, EXCEPT FOR
ON ONE BILL, AND THEN I GOT
STUCK AS YOU KNOW, CHAIR WHICH
HAS AN HONOR TO BE, BUT, UH UM I
JUST WANTED TO SAY MY CONCERN
WITH THIS BILL IS THAT AND I
UNDERSTAND THERE'S A PROVISION
IN IT TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT
AFFORDABLE HOUSING. UM BUT MY
CONCERN IS, WELL, FIRST OF ALL,
I MEAN, WHO KNOWS WHAT THAT'S
GONNA LOOK LIKE? AND WHETHER
CERTAIN REGIONS BECAUSE
AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN ONE REGION
IS OBVIOUSLY DIFFERENT THAN
AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND ANOTHER
REGION AND SOME REGIONS ARE
EXEMPT FROM, UH, AFFORDABLE
HOUSING, BASICALLY AND ALL THIS
LEGISLATION COMING THROUGH. UM
BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO, UM,
REQUIRE IT OFF THE BAT. NOT
KNOWING THE IMPACT TO AFFORDABLE
HOUSING. THAT IS A CONCERN THAT
I HAVE, UM I THINK WE COULD
PROBABLY GET TO THE POINT WHERE
I'M SUPPORTING SOMETHING THAT
MIGHT REQUIRE THIS TYPE OF THING
, BUT WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT THE
IMPACT WOULD BE. IT'S HARD FOR
ME TO SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, FULL
STEAM AHEAD WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO
DELIVER AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN
THIS STATE, YOU KNOW, AND I KNOW
IT'S NOT YOUR INTENT TO STOP
THAT FROM HAPPENING. BUT I, UM I
KNOW IN MY OWN DISTRICT WHEN I
TALK WITH DEVELOPERS, I HAVE A
HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE. UM
THE COSTS ALL THE COSTS, YOU
KNOW, PREVENT IT FROM HAPPENING
. UM, YOU KNOW, IN A WAY THAT WE
LIKE TO SEE IT, SO THAT'S MY
CONCERN. BUT IF YOU'D LIKE TO
ADDRESS THAT YOU KNOW, MORE THAN
WELCOME TO I THINK IT'S GOOD
POINTS. IT'S AKIN TO THE POINT
THAT SOME MEMBER GRAYSON WAS
TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF YOU
KNOW THE REALLY A COST BENEFIT
ANALYSIS BETWEEN THE CAPITAL
COSTS OF DOING THINGS IN THE
AMORTIZATION THEREOF IN THE
OPPOSITE THAT YOU GET IN A
COMMUNITY LIKE RECALL WHEN I
REPRESENT WHERE THE
AFFORDABILITY OF HOUSING IS
BEING IMPACTED DRAMATICALLY BY
THE COST OF RETAIL COST OF WATER
, WHICH HAS BEEN GOING ON. WE
JUST GOT A 15% WATER INCREASED
NOTICE FROM SAN JOSE MUNICIPAL
WATER AGENCY. WHICH BEEN TRYING
TO BUILD A NEW TREATMENT PLANT.
FOR AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN AROUND
I WAS IN THE CITY COUNCIL 20
YEARS AGO THERE ONLY A BILLION
DOLLARS SHORT OF COMING UP WITH
ENOUGH MONEY TO DO THAT. THE
PURPLE PIPE, MR. WHICH ALLUDED
THAT IT'S NOT THERE. THE
INFRASTRUCTURE ISN'T THERE YET.
DO WE NEED ALL THAT? YES
ABSOLUTELY. AND THAT WILL HELP
AS WELL. IT WILL HELP IN A BIG
WAY, I THINK ADDRESS CONCERNED
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IF YOU CAN
JUST HOOK UP. UH AND USED ON NON
POTABLE WATER. UM YOU KNOW,
WHEREVER POSSIBLE OR TREATED
WATER TO THE EXTENT WE GET TO
THAT POINT WHERE IT'S POTABLE.
BUT RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW WE'RE IN
A POSITION TO DO WHAT WE CAN
WITH WITH WHAT WE HAVE, UM, IN
FRONT OF US AS AS A STEP, AND I
DO THINK THIS IS A BOTH AND
CONVERSATION, ULTIMATELY. UM BUT
I THINK FUNDAMENTALLY THE COST
OF AMORTIZATION OF CAPITAL
IMPROVEMENTS NEEDS TO BE LOOKED
AT, PROBABLY SEPARATELY. BUT
SOON, IN ADDITION TO THIS BILL,
AND IT'S A GREAT TOPIC FOR US TO
MAYBE TAKE UP WITH CALIFORNIA
BUILDING INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION IN
TERMS OF THEIR FEELINGS ABOUT UM
, YOU KNOW, ATTACKING THAT THAT
PROBLEM GOING FORWARD AND
NONPROFIT HOUSING DEVELOPERS. I
APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENT. YOUR
CONCERN. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE
THAT. UM I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER
COMMENTS. WOULD YOU LIKE TO
CLOSE? YEAH YOU KNOW, ONLY, UM,
YOU KNOW, TO ACKNOWLEDGE ALL OF
THE COMMENTS. I APPRECIATE THE
ENGAGEMENT THE INTEREST ON ON
THIS BILL. YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN
SPENDING SOME LONG DAYS AND A
LOT OF COMMITTEE HEARINGS. A LOT
OF COMMITTEE. UH DISCUSSION AND
I WASN'T SURE HOW MUCH PEOPLE
WOULD BE ENGAGED ON THIS BILL,
AND IT'S IT FEELS GOOD TO HEAR
FROM FOLKS THAT THEY'RE SEEING.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE SEEING, YOU KNOW
GREAT POTENTIAL FOR ADDITIONAL
TOOLS IN THIS SPACE. UM, I DO
THINK AH, SOME MEMBER CARILLO
THAT MAYBE WE OUGHT TO GET
TOGETHER AND TRY TALKED ABOUT
THIS IN OUR HOUSE, UH, TO REALLY
RE INSTITUTE. UM NOW THAT
CONSTRUCTION IS UNDERWAY, MORE
ROBUST MEMBER OVERSIGHT PROCESS
ON WHAT'S GOING ON, YOU KNOW,
WITH THE ACTUAL UM EVERYTHING.
EVERYTHING FROM THE FINISHED
CARPENTRY TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE
TO THE WATER TO YOU KNOW THE
ACCESS TO POWER AND YOU NAME IT.
I MEAN, WE'RE NOT REALLY
INVOLVED WITH THAT. AND UM IT'S
A SEPARATE CONVERSATION. I AGREE
. I DON'T WANT TO GO OFF TOPIC
ON ON A BILL I'M PRESENTING, BUT
I VERY MUCH EMPATHIZE. UM AND I
WOULD LIKE TO BE A PART OF THAT
KIND OF OVERSIGHT. SO WE WILL
TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THESE COST
ISSUES GOING FORWARD, EITHER. BY
TRYING TO SEE IF THERE'S
SOMETHING WE CAN STILL ADDRESS
HERE, BUT MAYBE MORE
IMPORTANTLY, COMING BACK. IF WE
CAN GET THIS AN ACT AND SEE NOW
THIS IS AN ACT AND WE NEED TO
COME BACK AND TAKE A LOOK AT
WHAT UM, WE CAN DO IN TERMS OF
MITIGATING CONSUMER COSTS. THANK
YOU. WE STILL NEED A
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR I VOTE
. OKAY WITHOUT YOU SAYING THAT.
I THINK EVERYBODY'S GONNA VOTE
NOW, YOU KNOW, UM UM AND WAS
THERE A SECOND? OKAY GREAT. SO
WE HAVE EMOTION IN A SECOND. WE
COULD TAKE TAKE ROLL. MOTION TO
PASS AS AMENDED TO THE ASSEMBLY
COMMITTEE AND APPROPRIATIONS
WEEKS, PATERSON AND NO CARILLO.
AYE GRAYSON, GRACE AND I CHOLERA
, CHOLERA HIGH QUIRK-SILVA
QUIRK-SILVA SANCHEZ SANCHEZ, NO
WARD WORD, AYE. ALRIGHT THE BILL
IS OUT, BUT WE'LL KEEP IT OPEN
AND FOR THE RECORD WILL BE
ADDING A SEPTEMBER CHOLERA AS A
CO AUTHOR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
AND, UH, ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S CREOLE
WANTED TO BE ADDED AS WELL.
GREAT THANK YOU. UH ALL RIGHT.
WE ARE. WE DON'T HAVE. WE DON'T
HAVE A LONG LIFE LINE OF
SENATORS IN THE BUILDING. SO
APPRECIATE EVERY SINGLE ONE.
THAT'S HERE. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU SO MUCH ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S. I
APPRECIATE THAT. IT'S ALWAYS
GOOD TO BE APPRECIATED, EVEN IF
YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE IN THE ROOM
. WELL WE APPRECIATE YOU AT ALL
TIMES, AND YOU ARE HERE TO
PRESENT AT SB 7 47. CORRECT
CORRECT. THANK YOU. CORRECT
THANK YOU, MR VICE CHAIR AND
PLEASED TO PRESENT SB 7 47,
WHICH WOULD MAKE IMPORTANT
CHANGES TO THE CALIFORNIA
SURPLUS LAND ACT TO PROVIDE
GREATER FLEXIBILITY. AND CLARITY
TO ITS APPLICATION FOR LOCAL
GOVERNMENT. FIRST I'D LIKE TO
THANK THE CHAIR AND THE
COMMITTEE STAFF FOR THEIR WORK
ON THIS BILL AND I WILL BE
ACCEPTING THE AMENDMENTS.
AMENDMENTS OUTLINED ON PAGES
EIGHT AND NINE OF THE COMMITTEE
ANALYSIS. FOR DECADES,
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCIES OR RDAS
WERE EQUIPPED WITH BROAD
COMMUNITY REVITALIZATION
AUTHORITY AND FINANCING POWERS.
FEATURE OF THE FORMER ARDA AS
EVERYONE KNOWS, IS THAT IT
ENABLED LOCAL AGENCIES TO
ACQUIRE PROPERTIES AND ASSEMBLE
LAND THAT COULD BE USED TO
REVITALIZE DETERIORATED
NEIGHBORHOODS AND ATTRACT AND
EXPAND NEW BUSINESSES AND JOBS.
TO THE COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY IN
DETERIORATING DOWNTOWNS WITH
INFRASTRUCTURE CHALLENGES. AFTER
OUR DÍAS WERE ELIMINATED IN 2011
, THE LEGISLATURE RECOGNIZED
THAT LOCAL AGENCIES NEEDED NEW
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOOLS AND
ENACTED A VARIETY OF LAWS,
INCLUDING THE STATE ECONOMIC
OPPORTUNITY LAW TO AUTHORIZE
LOCAL AGENCIES TO ACQUIRE AND
DISPOSE OF PROPERTY FOR ECONOMIC
GROWTH. SINCE THE ENACTMENT OF
THE ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY LAW IN
2017 LOCAL AGENCIES HAVE
UTILIZED THIS TOOL TO ACQUIRE
DETERIORATED BUILDINGS,
UNDERUTILIZED LOTS AND OTHER
PROPERTIES, OFTEN IN UNDER
INVESTED NEIGHBORHOODS IN
DOWNTOWN WITH A NIGHT OF FUTURE,
SELL OR LEASE OF THE PROPERTY TO
ADVANCE PRIVATE SECTOR
REINVESTMENT. AND ECONOMIC
OPPORTUNITY WHEN A LOCAL
JURISDICTION ACTS TO DISPOSE OF
PROPERTY ACCESS TO ITS NEEDS THE
PROPERTY ACQUIRED WITH THE GOAL
TO PURSUE ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY,
IT MUST UNDER UNDERGO REVIEW
UNDER THE SURPLUS LAND ACT. THE
SURPLUS LAND ACT REQUIRES A
LOCAL AGENCY SEEKING TO DISPOSE
OF REAL PROPERTY TO FIRST MAKE
IT AVAILABLE FOR AFFORDABLE
HOUSING IN 2019 A B 14 86
IMPOSED REQUIREMENTS UNDER THE S
L. A, WHICH INCLUDED GIVING THE
DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND
OVERSIGHT ROLE AND THE ABILITY
TO IMPOSE FINES WHEN A LOCAL
GOVERNMENT IS BELIEVED TO HAVE
VIOLATED THE SL A CENTRALIZING
THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE S L. A
UNDER H CD WITH THE AUTHORITY TO
IMPOSE THESE PENALTIES HAS
CREATED CONFUSION FOR LOCAL
AGENCIES TO UNDERSTAND THEIR
OPTIONS TO EFFECTIVELY CONDUCT
ACTIVITIES AND FULFILL THEIR
MISSIONS WITHOUT UM, WITHOUT
EXPERIENCE EXPERIENCING
SIGNIFICANT DELAYS OR LOBBYING H
CD OR THE LEGISLATURE TO OBTAIN
AN INDIVIDUAL EXCEPTION. THIS
YEAR, THE ASSEMBLY SENT SEVEN
EXCEPTION BILLS FOR
CONSIDERATION. AND QUITE
FRANKLY, WHEN WE START SEEING
THE BROAD APPLICATION OF
EXCEPTIONS TO SOMETHING THAT WE
BARELY PASSED, THAT'S A RED FLAG
THAT WE'VE GOT SOME PROBLEMS.
THIS CAME TO MY ATTENTION. WHEN
LOCAL GOVERNMENT IN MY DISTRICT
HAD ISSUES WITH DEALING WITH
SURPLUS LAND, AND RATHER THAN
GET FINED BY HC D. JUST ELECTED
TO LEAVE THEM VACANT, WHICH DOES
NOBODY ANY GOOD. WE'RE NOT
BUILDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND
WE'RE NOT DOING ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT, AND THAT'S THAT'S
THE REASON THAT I STARTED
WORKING ON THIS IN THIS AREA.
FIRST AND FOREMOST SP 7 47 HAS
PROPOSED TO BE AMENDED BY
COMMITTEE MAKES NEEDED CHANGES
TO THE SURPLUS LAND ACT. TO AS
THE ANALYSIS STATES SERVE AS A
RELEASE VALVE TO LIMIT THE NEED
FOR FUTURE CHANGES. WHAT WE'RE
TRYING TO DO IS TO AVOID THE ONE
OFF AND CREATE RULES THAT MAKE
SENSE THAT CITIES AND LOCAL
GOVERNMENT UNDERSTAND HOW TO HOW
TO USE THEIR PROPERTY. AMONG THE
BILL CHANGES TO S L. A IT ALLOWS
LOCAL AGENCY DISPOSED TO DISPOSE
OF SURPLUS PROPERTY. SO THE
BOTTOM LINE IS ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT WAS STRIPPED OUT OF
IT, AND I WANT TO WORK WITH THE
CHAIR TO SEE IF THERE'S A WAY
FOR US TO CREATE A NUANCED, UM,
WAY TO BE ABLE TO USE THE
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT LAW, UM, IN
ORDER FOR CITIES AND COUNTIES TO
BE ABLE TO MAKE SOME GOOD
DECISIONS FOR THEMSELVES, BUT
MAYBE MAKE BY MAKING FINDINGS
AND WE JUST NEED MORE TIME TO
TALK ABOUT IT. BUT I HAVE
ACCEPTED THE ELIMINATION OF
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THAT,
BUT THE BILL KURTIS, UH, AS
AMENDED WOULD ALLOW, UM, SURPLUS
PROPERTY FOR MIXED USE PROPERTY
, WHICH CONTAINED AT LEAST 25%
OF ITS UNITS AFFORDABLE TO LOW
INCOME RESIDENTS. THE BILL
CLARIFIES THAT LAND RETAINED BY
LOCAL GOVERNMENT. GOVERNMENTS
FOR SEVERAL PURPOSES, INCLUDING
BROADBAND DEVELOPMENT AND WASTE
DISPOSAL. QUALIFY FOR AGENCY USE
, AND IT EXEMPTS SHORT TERM
LEASES OF 15 YEARS OR LESS FROM
THE S L. A. THESE PROPERTIES ARE
LESS CHARACTERISTICS ABOUT
TRADITIONAL SURPLUS PROPERTY. UM
ANALYSIS. LOCAL GOVERNMENTS HAVE
A RESPONSIBILITY TO BUILD
HOUSING AND SUPPORT ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THEIR
COMMUNITIES, BOTH ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT LAW AND THE SURPLUS
LAND ACT ARE A CRITICAL
COMPONENT. TO THE TO ENSURE THAT
THIS HAPPENS, HOWEVER, THE
LEGISLATURE HAS A RESPONSIBILITY
TO ENSURE THE LAWS PASSED, DO
NOT INADVERTENTLY PUNISH LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS THAT ARE GENUINELY
WORKING TO ADVANCE DEVELOPMENT
THAT SUPPORT THE NEEDS OF THEIR
COMMUNITY. WHILE COMMITTEE AND
AMENDMENTS TODAY REMOVES THE
LANGUAGE THAT PROVIDES FOR
GREATER FLEXIBILITY FOR ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT, I WOULD LIKE TO
CONTINUE WORKING WITH THE CHAIR.
THIS COMMITTEE AND THE
STAKEHOLDERS TO ENSURE LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS HAVE THE TOOLS TO
DEVELOP IN WAYS THAT SUPPORT THE
NECESSARY BALANCE BETWEEN
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND
AFFORDABLE HOUSING. UM AND I'M A
MAKE TO YOU THE COMMITMENT THAT
, UM, AS AS THE SURPLUS LAND
BILLS HAVE PASSED THROUGH THE
SENATE, WHERE WE HAVE LINKED
THEM SO THAT THEY ALL THEY ALL
ARE GETTING THROUGH AND THEY'RE
ALL WORKING TO, UM, ACCOMPLISH
THE SAME GOAL, WHICH IS TO
CLARIFY HOUSE OR SURPLUS LAND,
UM, SHOULD ACT ACT IN THEIR IN
THEIR COMMUNITIES. SO WITH ME
HERE TODAY TO TESTIFY AND
SUPPORT AND FACILITATE THE
CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS BILL IS
ERIN AVERY ON BEHALF OF THE
CELTIC. IN A SPECIAL DISTRICTS
ASSOCIATION. THANK YOU, MADAM
CHAIR MEMBERS FOR THE FOR THE
THIRD TIME TODAY AND LAST TIME
ERIN AVERY WITH THE CALIFORNIA
SPECIAL DISTRICTS ASSOCIATION,
WHICH REPRESENTS NEARLY 1000
LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, USING THEIR
LANDS TO PROVIDE ESSENTIAL
SERVICES SUCH AS WATER,
WASTEWATER AND FIRE PROTECTION
AND SUPPORTING AFFORDABLE
HOUSING THROUGH PROVIDING
ESSENTIAL SERVICES. ALTHOUGH WE
HAVE A SUPPORTIVE, AMENDED
POSITION, WE WANT TO THANK
SENATOR. COPY, EUROFER.
TREMENDOUS WORK ON THIS BILL AND
FOR TACKLING THIS REALLY TOUGH
ISSUE. I THINK THAT'S REALLY
DEMONSTRATED BY THE SORT OF
PARADE OF SLR BILLS THAT THIS
COMMITTEE HAS SEEN TODAY. IN
THIS YEAR. UM WE'RE ENTHUSIASTIC
ABOUT THIS BILL, AND WE'VE BEEN
WORKING WITH THE SENATOR ON IT
FOR MANY MONTHS. NOTE THAT MY
REMARKS ARE ON THE VERSION OF
THE BILL IMPRINT. WE HAVE NOT
YET SEEN THE COMMITTEE
AMENDMENTS BUT ONE OF THE
COMMITTEE STAFF FOR WORKING WITH
US ON THIS BILL AS WELL. THE SLS
SERVES AN IMPORTANT PURPOSE, BUT
IS IT IS BOTH HYPERTECHNICAL AND
AGAIN, NOT A MODEL OF CLARITY.
THIS HAS LED TO DISPUTES AND
INEFFICIENCIES. AS DEMONSTRATED
BY THE PARADE OF S L A DISTRICT
BILLS AND CLEAN UP BILLS THAT
COME BEFORE THIS COMMITTEE EVERY
YEAR. SB 7 47 IS DESIGNED TO
HELP BRING ADDITIONAL CLARITY
AND FLEXIBILITY TO THE L A WHILE
PRESERVING ITS CORE PURPOSES.
IMPORTANT PROVISIONS INCLUDE
PROVIDING A DEFINITION OF
DISPOSED UNDER SECTION 54221 D
THAT INCLUDES THE SALE OF
SURPLUS LAND AND THE ENTRY OF
SPECIFIED LEASES IN EXCESS OF 15
YEARS, FINALLY PROVIDING CLARITY
TO THAT ISSUE. WE WERE
DISCUSSING ANOTHER BILLS TODAY.
PROVIDED THIS BILL PROVIDES
ADDITIONAL TRANSPARENCY TO HCG
PROCEDURES PRIOR TO HDD,
ADOPTING, AMENDING OR REPEALING
SPECIFIED STANDARDS, FORMS OR
DEFINITIONS, OR S L. A
GUIDELINES BY REMOVING AN
ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURES ACT
EXEMPTION APPLICABLE TO H C D.
AND THIS BILL CLARIFIES THAT THE
RELATION NOT BE INTERPRETED TO
REQUIRE A LOCAL AGENCY TO
DISPOSE OF LAND THAT IS
DETERMINED TO BE SURPLUS. WE'RE
SEEKING AMENDMENTS WORKING WITH
THE AUTHOR TO INCREASE THE
BILL'S TERM FOR LEASES THAT
WOULD BE CAUGHT UP IN THAT
DEFINITION OF DISPOSED TO MAKE
IT SOMETHING MORE AKIN TO A SALE
IN EXCESS OF 15 YEARS. UM SO I
THINK WE'RE ALIGNED WITH THE
AUTHOR AND SEEING IF THERE'S A
PATH FORWARD THERE AS WELL, UM,
WE'RE ALSO SEEKING TO REMOVE A
RECENT AMENDMENT TO THE BILL,
WHICH REQUIRES NOTIFICATIONS TO
HCG OF EXEMPT SURPLUS LAND. ACT
DISPOSALS. WE THINK THAT'S
UNNECESSARY AND EXEMPT SURPLUS
LAND IS NOT EXPRESSLY NOT
INCLUDED. THOSE DISPOSALS ARE
EXPRESSLY NOT INCLUDED IN THE S
L A AGAIN. WE WANT TO THANK THE
SENATOR AND HIS STAFF FOR THEIR
TREMENDOUS WORK ON THIS BILL,
AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO
CONTINUING TO WORK WITH THEM AS
THIS BILL PROVIDES PROGRESSES.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, WAS
THERE JUST THE ONE PRIMARY
WITNESS ANY OTHER PRIMARY
WITNESSES AND SUPPORT NOW FOCUS
ON THE REAL, WHICH EXPRESSED
SUPPORT NAME ORGANIZATION IN
POSITION, PLEASE. THANK YOU.
MADAM CHAIR MATT ROBINSON ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA TRANSIT
ASSOCIATION. JUST WANT TO THANK
THE AUTHOR FOR ALL HER WORK FOR
YOUR COMMITTEE STAFF'S TIME. WE
HAVE A SUPPORT POSITION ON THE
EXISTING VERSION OF THE BILL.
THE AMENDMENTS THAT ARE PROPOSED
IN THE ANALYSIS. WE DO HAVE SOME
CONCERNS WITH SEVERAL OF THEM
AND HOPE TO BE IN PART OF THE
CONVERSATION THAT MOVES FORWARD
AND JUST TO POINT OUT SOMETHING
THAT AARON SAID THAT DEFINITION
OF DISPOSAL IS CRITICAL TO
MAKING THIS ENTIRE BODY OF
LEGISLATION MUCH EASIER FOR OUR
AGENCIES TO INTERPRET. SO THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. NICOLE WARD
ULLMAN ON BEHALF OF SAN
BERNARDINO COUNTY AND THE CITY
OF ONTARIO AND SUPPORT SHARON
GONZALEZ ON BEHALF OF THE CITIES
OF BAKERSFIELD, CORONA, CARLSBAD
, MERCED AND SANTA ROSA. IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. CHRISLEY ON
BEHALF OF THE URBAN COUNTIES OF
CALIFORNIA AND SUPPORT PAUL,
YOU'RE ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF
BEVERLY HILLS AND SUPPORT NICK
ROMAN BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
BUILDING INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION
AND THE CALIFORNIA BUSINESS
PROPERTIES ASSOCIATION AND
SUPPORT. DAVID JONES ON BEHALF
OF THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS IN
SUPPORT AND THANK THE AUTHOR.
THANK YOU. NOW WE'RE GONNA
PRIMARY WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR AND
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. MY NAME IS
ABRAM DIAZ AND I SERVED AS THE
POLICY DIRECTOR FOR THE
NONPROFIT HOUSING ASSOCIATION OF
NORTHERN CALIFORNIA. WE
REPRESENT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING
BUILDERS, AS WELL AS ADVOCATES
AND COMMUNITY LEADERS WHO
SUPPORT THE CREATION AND
PRESERVATION OF AFFORDABLE HOMES
FOR LOW INCOME RESIDENTS. FIRST
OF ALL, WE'D LIKE TO THANK THE
HOUSING COMMITTEE AND HER STAFF
ARE WORKING SO HARD TO ENSURE
PROTECT THE SPIRIT OF THE
SURPLUS LAND ACT. SINCE 2020
SURPLUS LAND TRANSACTIONS HAVE
RESULTED IN ABOUT 8000 HOUSING
UNITS, INCLUDING OVER 5800 UNITS
OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THESE
HOMES ARE A CRITICAL PART OF OUR
STATE'S AFFORDABLE HOUSING
STRATEGY, SO WE ALWAYS WANT TO
CAREFULLY BALANCE ALL SUGGESTED
CHANGES TO THE S L. A. WE ALSO
LIKE TO THANK THE AUTHOR AND HER
EXCELLENT STAFF FOR BEING REALLY
GOOD FOLKS TO WORK WITH, AND
PARTIES TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE
OUTSTANDING ISSUES IN THE
MEASURE. I THINK WE'VE MADE SOME
GREAT PROGRESS HERE. OUR
COALITION HOPES TO CONTINUE TO
WORK WITH ALL PARTIES TO ADDRESS
CERTAIN OUTSTANDING ISSUES. THIS
INCLUDES EXEMPTIONS FOR TRANSIT
AGENCIES AND CERTAIN MENTIONS
AROUND SITES THAT ARE PROPOSED
TO BE SET ASIDE FOR 25% OF THEIR
LAND FOR HOUSING ON THE FIRST
ISSUE, WE KNOW THAT HOUSING NEAR
TRANSIT IS A CRITICAL PUBLIC
POLICY GOAL FOR THE STATE, ONE
THAT SIMULTANEOUSLY ADDRESSES
ARE HOUSING AND ENVIRONMENTAL
GOALS. EXEMPTING LAND USE SIMPLY
FOR TRANSIT EVEN AROUND TRANSIT
ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT. UNDER THIS
BILL COULD TAKE SOME OF THE MOST
PROMISING AREAS OF LAND IN THE
STATE FOR 100% AFFORDABLE
HOUSING PROJECTS OUT OF THE
REGULAR DISPOSAL PROCESS, AND
THESE ARE SITES. WE BELIEVE
SHERMAN WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THE
S L A. AND WE ALSO THINK THAT
ALLOWING EXEMPTIONS FOR CERTAIN
SIZED PARCELS THAT RESTRICT TO
ONLY 25% OF THEIR UNITS FOR
AFFORDABLE HOUSING COULD BE LOST
OPPORTUNITY. WE COULD HAVE
AFFORDABLE HOUSING BUILDERS
WOULD LIKE TO BUILD 100%
AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS ON
THOSE PARCELS AND WOULD LIKE TO
CONTINUE DISCUSSIONS AROUND WAYS
WE CAN BALANCE THAT APPROACH
OBVIOUSLY WANT HOUSING FAST, BUT
WE ALSO WANT A LOT OF IT. IF YOU
WANT TO MEET THIS VERY AMBITIOUS
ARENA GOALS WE HAVE ACROSS THE
STATE, SO ON OUR PART FOR NPH
REMAIN VERY COMMITTED TO
PRODUCTIVE CONVERSATIONS WITH
THE AUTHOR. HER SPONSORS AND THE
TEAM REALLY APPRECIATE
EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN DONE SO
FAR, BUT AT THE MOMENT WE
CONTINUE TO HAVE AN OPPOSED
UNLESS AMENDED POSITION. THANK
YOU. BETTER GET GOOD MORNING
SHARING MEMBERS BRIAN AUGUSTA ON
BEHALF OF THE PUBLIC INTEREST
LAW PROJECT, ONE OF THE UM,
MEMBERS OF THE COALITION THAT,
UM, THAT MY COLLEAGUE WAS
DESCRIBING. I JUST WANT TO NOTE,
UM, HAVING WORKED WITH SENATOR
CABALLERO ON MANY HOUSING BILLS
OVER THE YEARS. I KNOW THAT WE
COME TO THIS CONVERSATION WITH A
LOT OF SHARED INTERESTS.
APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT'S BEEN
DONE BY THE COMMITTEE AND THE
AUTHOR TO GET A LITTLE BIT
CLOSER WHEN MR HAMBURG WAS HERE
EARLIER, REPRESENTING ONE OF HIS
S L A BILLS HE GAVE CREDIT TO MR
TING FOR CREATING THE ACELA,
WHICH I'M SURE MR TING WOULD
LIKE TO CLAIM CREDIT FOR THAT
THAT'S NOT QUITE RIGHT. BUT HE
WOULD RIGHTFULLY CLAIM CREDIT
FOR UM AUTHORING 18 14 86, WHICH
IS THE BILL THAT HAS LED TO A
LOT OF THESE ADDITIONAL
CONVERSATIONS WE'RE HAVING THIS
YEAR. AS WE TALK ABOUT HOW TO
FIX THAT AND HOW TO MAKE SURE
THAT WE MEET THE FLEXIBILITY
THAT THE AUTHOR OF THIS MEASURE
ONCE IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE
DON'T LOSE THE PROGRESS THAT
WE'VE MADE WITH 14 86. THE
REALITY IS WE'VE GOTTEN FROM
THAT LAW JUST ON STANDARD
DISPOSITIONS THAT ARE SUBJECT TO
THE S L A OVER 1800 UNITS, BUT I
THINK IT'S ALL AFFORDABLE UNITS.
I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO
KNOW THAT ONE H C. D LOOKED AT
235 DISPOSITIONS UNDER THAT. UH
UNDER THE ACT ONLY 21 LED TO AN
AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPER
CHOOSING TO TAKE THAT LAND, SO
THE VAST MAJORITY PROCEED
OUTSIDE AFTER GOING THROUGH THE
S L A PROCEED ON A DIFFERENT
TRACK. AND SO I THINK WE WANT TO
MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE AS WE LOOK
AT MAKING ADDITIONAL FLEXIBILITY
HERE AND ABRAM DESCRIBED VERY
WELL THAT WHAT OUR REMAINING
CONCERNS ARE IN THE BILL THAT WE
ARE NOT THROWING THE BABY OUT
WITH THE BATHWATER. WE'VE GOT TO
MAKE SURE THAT WE ENSURE THAT WE
HAVE THE CONTINUE TO HAVE THE
ROLE OF THE S L A AND HELPING TO
PRODUCE 100% AFFORDABLE PROJECTS
AND WE DON'T WANT TO SEE, UM THE
PROGRESS THAT'S BEEN MADE
UNDERMINED BY THAT. SO FOR THOSE
REASONS WE LOOK FORWARD TO
CONTINUING TO WORK WITH THE
AUTHOR. WE HAVE ALSO ARE
SPONSORING A BILL ONE OF SEVERAL
MOVING THIS YEAR THAT IS IN
SOMEWHAT IN DIRECT CONFLICT WITH
THAT, AND THIS BILL, AND SO
WE'RE HOPING THAT THAT WILL ALL
BE RESOLVED BEFORE THESE BILLS
GO DOWN TO THE GOVERNOR'S TASK.
WE APPRECIATE THE CHAIRS
INTEREST IN HELPING THEM. UM
BROKER THAT CONVERSATION, AND WE
HOPE TO BE ALONG WITH THE
SUPPORTERS AT THE TABLE ON THAT.
SO FOR THOSE REASONS WE ARE
CURRENTLY OPPOSED, BUT WE LOOK
FORWARD TO CONTINUING
CONVERSATION. THANK YOU AND
ADDITIONAL FOLKS IN THE ROOM
WISH TO EXPRESS OPPOSITION NAME
ORGANIZATION IN POSITION,
PLEASE. INTRODUCED IN WITH THE
CALIFORNIA HOUSING PARTNERSHIP,
PART OF THE SAME COALITION.
THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING, MARIAH
MCGILL ON BEHALF OF NORTHERN
CIRCLE INDIAN HOUSING AUTHORITY
IN OPPOSITION UNLESS TRIBES ARE
INCLUDED IN THE LANGUAGE FOR
LOCAL GOVERNMENT. THANK YOU.
WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE. MS QUIRK-SILVA. AH,
I'M. A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT
THE BILL, ALTHOUGH I'LL BE
SAYING YES TO IT, BUT I WOULD
HOPE FOR THE CONTINUED
CONVERSATIONS BECAUSE ASTOR AS
MR AUGUSTA SAID, YOU KNOW, WE
HAVE WORKED QUITE A BIT IN THIS
SPACE AND WE DON'T WANT TO MOVE
BACKWARDS. I GET UNDERSTAND THE
LOCAL GOVERNMENT CONCERN THAT'S
ALWAYS A CONCERN. BUT JUST WOULD
ENCOURAGE THE CONVERSATIONS TO
CONTINUE AND HOPEFULLY BY THE
TIME IT GETS TO THE FLOOR. THE
OPPOSITION WILL BE REMOVED, BUT
I'LL SUPPORT IT TODAY, BUT A
LITTLE CONCERNED. THANK YOU
APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. MR
PATTERSON. THANKS UM, A COUPLE
OF COMMENTS, AND ONE OF THEM
REFERS TO THE AMENDMENTS.
ACTUALLY I WILL SUPPORT THIS
BILL. UM YOU KNOW, AS IT IS
BECAUSE I THINK IT'S MAKING
PROPER PROGRESS. I DID PREFER
THE ORIGINAL PERSONALLY. THE
ORIGINAL VERSION, UM. SO IN MY I
THINK HAVING AN ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT COMPONENT IS REALLY
IMPORTANT IN MY COMMUNITY. UH
THE CITY SPENT SOMETHING LIKE
$15 MILLION BUILDING QUARRY PARK
AND FOR PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE
AREA. THE POINT IS TO BRING IN
TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE A
YEAR. SPEND TAX DOLLARS IN THE
TOWN. CREATE THIS EXPERIENCE,
YOU KNOW ALL THAT SORT OF THING.
CITY WANTED TO PUT, UH,
BASICALLY A BEER GARDENS IN, UM,
BUT, YOU KNOW, THE CITY
SHOULDN'T BE OPERATING A BEER
GARDEN, SO THEY WANTED AT LEAST
A GRAVEL PARKING LOT TO SOMEBODY
. AND HDD SAID NO. AND YOU KNOW
THERE'S NEVER EVER GOING TO BE
HOUSING THERE. IT'S ALWAYS GOING
TO BE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF
THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
ENGINE, AND SO UM, WHETHER HDD
HAS THE AUTHORITY TO SAY YOU
CAN'T LEASE IT OR NOT, OBVIOUSLY
HAS BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION ON
THAT. BUT THEY DID. AND YOU KNOW
THE CITY IS NOT GOING TO
CHALLENGE THAT THEY DON'T HAVE
THE RESOURCES OR TIME TO DO
THAT. SO I THINK IT'S REALLY
IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER ECONOMIC
ITEMS AND APPRECIATE YOUR WORK
ON IT. HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET
SOMETHING DONE ON THAT. THAT
SORT OF MEETS THE NEEDS OF
HOUSING. BY THE WAY, ROCKLAND.
AS I SAID A MILLION TIMES
APPEARED. NEVER DENIED A SINGLE
PROJECT THE ENTIRE TIME I WAS ON
THE CITY COUNCIL. UM LASTLY, I
WANT TO SAY I DO HAVE ONE OF
THOSE BILLS. IT'S LINKED TO THIS
BILL. UM MAYBE 4 57, WHICH TAKES
BASICALLY HIGHWAY RIGHT AWAY, UM
FOR AN OVERPASS AND WOULD ALLOW
THE CITY TO YOU KNOW, GET RID OF
H C D S CONCERNS ABOUT HEY, YOU
CAN'T LEASE IT FOR MORE THAN
FIVE YEARS BECAUSE YOU KNOW
THAT'S HOW OUR INTERPRETATION OF
IT AND YOU KNOW, I DO HAVE A
LITTLE FIRST OF ALL. I
APPRECIATE YOU SO MUCH WORKING
WITH ME ON THE BILL AND THIS
BILL IN PARTICULAR AND MOVING IT
FORWARD. ALSO IT'S A REALLY
IMPORTANT CHANGE THAT WE HAVE,
UM I'M KEEPING IT ON THE SENATE
FLOOR UNTIL WE MAKE SURE THIS
BILL GOES, YOU KNOW, GOES THE
DISTANCE, OBVIOUSLY, BECAUSE I
DON'T WANNA LIMIT BECAUSE IT
REQUIRES THIS BILL TO, YOU KNOW,
BE ENACTED RIGHT? AND I DON'T
WANT THEM TO LOSE THAT
OPPORTUNITY. YOU KNOW IF
HOPEFULLY, NOTHING HAPPENS WITH
THIS BILL. YOU KNOW IN THE
PROCESS, BUT I JUST WANTED TO
FLAG YOU WITH THAT, BUT THANK
YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR EMPHASIS
ON THIS BILL. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. ANY ADDITIONAL
QUESTIONS. COMMENTS WE HAVE
EMOTION BY MS SANCHEZ. WE HAVE A
SECOND SECOND BY MR PATTERSON.
AND I HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS,
BUT I'LL LET YOU CLOSE FIRST.
WELL I APPRECIATE THE THAT THE
COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE AND
I'M I'M VERY SENSITIVE TO THE
FACT LOOK. IF THERE'S ONE THING
THAT I'VE SPENT MY ENTIRE
POLITICAL CAREER DOING IS
BUILDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR
MAKING IT EASIER TO BUILD
AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND WAY
BEFORE IT WAS POPULAR TO HAVE
INCLUSIONARY HOUSING ORDINANCES
AND ALL KINDS OF REQUIREMENTS.
WE HAD THEM IN OUR CITY BECAUSE
THAT WAS THAT WAS A PRIORITY,
BUT BUT BUT LAWS HAVE TO MAKE
SENSE. AND IF YOU HAVE IF YOU
PASS A LAW AND IMMEDIATELY
WITHIN THE FIRST. FOUR YEARS OF
THE OF THE OF THE LAW PASSING.
YOU'VE GOT EVERYBODY COMING IN
WHEN, WITH ONE OFF NOT THIS. NOT
THIS. NOT THIS. NOT THIS
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S PATTERSON. YOUR
YOUR POINT IS REALLY WELL TAKEN
ITS THERE ARE TIMES THAT LOOK
THAT LOCAL GOVERNMENT PUT
TOGETHER PROPERTY. FOR SOMETHING
THAT THEY NEED, WHETHER IT'S AN
ON RAMP ONTO THE FREEWAY OR
WHETHER IT'S UM UH, A YARD THAT
THEY'RE GOING TO NEED TO DO WORK
IN A CITY YARD AND IF YOU CAN'T
FIGURE OUT HOW TO, UM, COMPLY
WITH THE LAW. AND STILL GET YOUR
NEEDS MET THEN BASICALLY, WHAT
IT DOES IS IT IS IT CAUSES A
LACK OF ACTION AND THAT LACK OF
ACTION ENDS UP HURTING THE LOCAL
JURISDICTION, WHETHER IT WAS
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OR HOUSING
. UM, THAT UNCERTAINTY UM,
CREATE A RUSH TO THE
LEGISLATURE. TO FIX IT. JUST IN
CASE YOU'RE GONNA GET IN
TROUBLE. AND SO WHAT WE WERE
TRYING TO DO WITH THIS IS TO IS
TO RECOGNIZE AND ACKNOWLEDGE
THAT THE LEGISLATURE PASSED THE
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ACT FOR A
PURPOSE. UM AND IF WE HAVE
ASSUMED IT THEN THEN WE OUGHT TO
GIVE SOME DIRECTION AS TO
EXACTLY HOW DO YOU HOW DO YOU
MANAGE THE FACT THAT ON ONE HAND
YOU'RE GIVEN THIS RIGHT? AND ON
THE OTHER HAND, YOU'RE GIVEN
THIS OTHER RIGHT? AND OH, BY THE
WAY, IF YOU DON'T GET IT, RIGHT,
HDD IS GOING TO COME IN AND SLAP
YOU UPSIDE THE HEAD AND IT'S
GOING. THEY'RE GOING TO FIND YOU
RIGHT? AND SO WHAT DO CITY
ATTORNEYS DO? THEY END UP SAYING
DON'T DO ANYTHING BECAUSE
OTHERWISE WE'RE LIKELY TO HAVE
TO PAY A FINE THAT'S
EMBARRASSING TO THIS COMMUNITY.
UM THE PUBLIC IS GOING TO BE
CRITICAL, WHICH THEY SHOULD BE
AND YOU GET NOTHING DONE, SO
THAT'S REALLY THE REASON FOR
WORKING ON THIS BILL, AND I AM
WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S TING SO THAT
OUR BILLS WORK WELL TOGETHER. AH
AND I APPRECIATE, UM THE
COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE FROM MY
FRIENDS IN THE AFFORDABLE
HOUSING COMMUNITY. WE JUST GOT
TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S THE SWEET
SPOT. FOR BEING ABLE TO ASSURE
THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS
GETTING BUILT. UM BUT THAT IF
THERE ARE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
OPPORTUNITIES AS WELL THAT
THERE'S A PATHWAY TO BE ABLE TO
GET THERE AS WELL. AND SO I LOOK
FORWARD TO CONTINUING THE WORK
WITH THE CHAIR. UM I APPRECIATE
THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THE
CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD YEAH,
AND WHAT I SAID AT THE VERY
BEGINNING IS THAT IT WAS
ACCEPTING ALL THE COMMITTEE
AMENDMENTS. AND SO WITH THAT, I
WOULD RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR MY
VOTE. THANK YOU, SENATOR. UM I
YOU KNOW, I'M A FAN OF THE
SURPLUS LANDS ACT IN CONCEPT. I
WAS A CO AUTHOR OF 14 86 BACK IN
2019, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A
SMART IDEA TO PRIORITIZE
AFFORDABLE HOUSING. ON OUR
SURPLUS LAND, SO I'M A SUPPORTER
OF THE LAW. BUT I ALSO RECOGNIZE
THAT YOU KNOW THERE NEEDS TO BE
SOME SOME CHANGES MADE TO IT.
WE'VE HAD NINE SURPLUS LANDS. UH
BILLS RUN THROUGH THIS COMMITTEE
THIS YEAR, WHICH INDICATES THAT
THERE DOES NEED TO BE SOME SORT
OF CHANGES. SO UM, I APPRECIATE
YOU, YOU KNOW, BRINGING THE BILL
FORWARD? UM SO WE CAN PROVIDE
MORE CERTAINTY AND FLEXIBILITY
FOR OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS WHO I
KNOW MANY OF WHOM ARE TRYING TO
DO THE RIGHT THING, SOME OF WHOM
AREN'T BUT MANY OF WHOM ARE UM
AND I KNOW WE ASKED FOR A LOT OF
AMENDMENTS, SENATOR, SO I
APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THOSE
COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS. UM, IT WAS
THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF EFFORT
FROM MY TEAM WITH YOUR TEAM. AND
TOWARDS THAT END TO TRY TO LAND
THIS PLANE. I KNOW YOU AND I
HAVE LANDED TOUGH PLANES BEFORE
IN THE PAST, UM AND ARE
COMMITTED TO DOING THAT, UM,
EVEN WITH THOSE AMENDMENTS, YOU
KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF IMPORTANT
CHANGES TO THE LAW THAT ARE
CONTAINED IN THIS BILL. AND I
HOPE THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO
WORK TOGETHER BECAUSE I DO VALUE
THE SURPLUS LANDS ACT AND SO I
THINK WE'RE TRYING TO NAVIGATE
THAT TOGETHER. I'M COMMITTED TO
WORKING THROUGH THE BILL. I'VE
SPOKEN TO MY COUNTERPART IN THE
SENATE, UM OF THE HOUSING
COMMITTEE SENATOR WIENER ABOUT
SOME OF THE CONCERNS RAISED BY
THE TRANSIT. AGENCIES IF THEY'RE
STILL HERE, THERE THEY ARE. SO
SENATOR WIENER. I'VE SPOKEN
ABOUT THAT, AND WE WANT TO MAKE
SURE THAT YOU ALL ARE AT THE
TABLE OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF
MONTHS AS WE TRY TO NAVIGATE AND
FIGURE OUT HOW TO ADDRESS SOME
OF THOSE CONCERNS. SO UM,
ASSUMING THE BUILDINGS THAT A
COMMITTEE TODAY WHICH I THINK
IT, WILL IT I JUST GIVE YOU MY
COMMITMENT TO KEEP WORKING
THROUGH SOME OF THESE ISSUES AND
IF OTHER MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE WANT TO BE PART OF
THOSE CONVERSATIONS, HAPPY TO
ENGAGE AS WELL. DO YOU THINK WE
CAN LAND THIS IN A PLACE?
HOPEFULLY WHERE IT CAN WORK FOR
EVERYONE. THAT SOUNDS GREAT.
RIGHT NOW. I'M HAPPY TO, UM,
SUPPORT THE BILL. TODAY EMOTIONS
DO PASSES A MINUTE TO THE
ASSEMBLY COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS. WEEKS WEEKS, I
PERSON AND I KOREA WHO YOU ARE,
GRAYSON, GRACE AND I CHOLERA.
QUIRK-SILVA. QUIRK-SILVA SANCHEZ
SANCHEZ, I WARD WARD. AYE.
THAT'S 7 TO 0. THE BILL IS OUT
AND WE WILL LET FOLKS ADD ON AS
NEEDED. THANK YOU. AND I THINK
WE ARE WAITING ON MR MAGUIRE,
WHO SAID HE TEXTED ME SAID HE'S
ON HIS WAY. SO HE'LL BE HERE
MOMENTARILY. AND WITH THAT, CAN
WE GO BACK THROUGH AND ADD ON
FOR FOLKS WHO, UH, MYSELF
INCLUDED, WHO NEED TO ADD ON
HMM. SO WHAT? INTO THE CONSENT
CALENDAR. KOREA AND KOREA I,
SANCHEZ SANCHEZ, I WORK WORK. I
. 800 FOR ITEMS NUMBER TWO AND
NUMBER FIVE IS 22. 2 40. UM ITEM
NUMBER THREE WEEKS. I WICKS AYE.
62. ITEM NUMBER FOUR WEEKS. I
WEEKS, I. THAT'S 61 WAS THAT IT?
UM ONE MORNING. ONE MORE. I
DIDN'T NUMBER SEVEN WEEKS WEEKS.
I 72 GREAT. OKAY WE WILL NOW
HEAR FROM OUR FINAL AUTHOR OF
THE DAY. SENATOR MCGUIRE. I
BELIEVE YOU HAVE ITEM NUMBER
ONE. SB 18 AND ITEM NUMBER SIX
SB 6 20. THANK YOU SO MUCH
REALLY GRATEFUL IN APPRECIATE
THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO
PRESENT AND I KNOW THAT WE ARE
AT THE TAIL END OF THE HEARINGS.
I WILL BE BRIEF. FIRST I WANT TO
OUT WE HAVE A MOTION. THANK YOU
SO MUCH FIRST. I WANT TO THANK
THE CHAIR AND THE COMMITTEE
STAFF FOR THEIR INCREDIBLE WORK
ON THE IMPORTANT LEGISLATION, OF
COURSE, WILL BE ACCEPTING THE
COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS. BOTTOM
LINE IS THIS SB 18 WOULD ADDRESS
CHALLENGES THE PUBLIC HEALTH
CRISIS THAT WE HAD HAVE ON
TRIBAL LANDS REGARDING HOUSING
BY CREATING A NEW AND UM
COMPLETELY SEPARATE HOUSING
PROGRAM FOR TRIBAL GOVERNMENTS
SPECIFIC TO TRIBAL NEEDS, WHICH
WOULD BE CREATED IN CONSULTATION
WITH TRIBAL LEADERS IN TAILORED
TO THE UNIQUE NEEDS THAT WE SEE
ON TRIBAL LANDS AND FOR TRIBAL
GOVERNMENT. IT WOULD BE VERY
SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'VE SEEN WITH
THE JOE SERNA FARMWORKER HOUSING
GRANT PROGRAM THAT IS FOCUSED ON
FARM WORKERS ACROSS THIS STATE.
I WOULD RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN
I VOTE AND WE ARE GRATEFUL THAT
WE HAVE WITNESSES HERE AND
SUPPORT IN. BOTH WILL BE
SUCCINCT. AND WE'RE GRATEFUL
THAT EACH OR HERE GOOD MORNING,
WE HAVE IN EARLY THROUGH HELL,
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF PAULA
HOUSING RESOURCE CENTER AND, OF
COURSE, LIZ ELLIOTT, THE
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE
NORTHERN CIRCLE INDIAN HOUSING
AUTHORITY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
AND YOU'LL EACH HAVE TWO
MINUTES. HEY GOOD MORNING. MY
NAME IS ANNA LEE TRUJILLO,
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF PAULA
HOUSING. UM, WELL, PAULA HOUSING
RESOURCE CENTER PAUL OBAMA
MISSION INDIANS. AND THANK YOU
FOR HAVING US HERE TODAY FOR SB
18, WHICH IS A VERY IMPORTANT
MONUMENTS. MONUMENTAL AND
HISTORIC, UM I THINK FOR US
HERE, UM AS FAR AS THE TRIBES
TRIBES HAVE BEEN HISTORICALLY
EXCLUDED FROM ANY TYPE OF STATE
HOUSING PROGRAMS, UM WE, YOU
KNOW, HAVE BEEN PAYING VERY
CLOSE ATTENTION TO ALL THE OTHER
HOUSING PROGRAMS THAT ARE
AVAILABLE ACROSS THE STATE, AND
IT'S KIND OF SAD THAT TRIBES
HAVE ALWAYS BEEN. YOU KNOW,
WE'RE THE FIRST PEOPLE HERE BUT
THE LAST TO BE THOUGHT OF WITH
THAT BEING SAID THAT THERE WAS
SOME TROUBLE SET ASIDE FUNDS.
130 MILLION. ONLY 45 MILLION OF
THAT WAS ACCESS BECAUSE OF
TRIBAL BARRIERS. UM WE FOUND IT
THAT THE BEST THING FOR US IS
TRIBAL PEOPLE WAS TO HAVE OUR
OWN TRIBAL PROGRAMS. SO THAT
DOESN'T HAPPEN. $85 MILLION LEFT
ON THE TABLE IS IT'S NOT, UM NOT
ACCEPTABLE TO US. FOR DECADES.
WE'VE BEEN EXCLUDED OUR HOUSING
, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY WITH THE
TERMINATION, RELOCATION, AND, UM
REMOVAL FROM OUR OWN HOMELANDS.
YOU KNOW, WE WERE ALWAYS
PROMISED HOUSING AND HOUSING
NEVER CAME. AND THAT'S WHEN I
WAS A LITTLE GIRL OR OR PRIOR TO
THAT. YOU KNOW, WHEN MY
GRANDFATHER WAS WORKING AND
HOUSING, YOU KNOW, HOUSING NEVER
CAME. AND YOU SEE ALL THIS
DEVELOPMENT AROUND YOU, BUT
STILL NOTHING FOR YOUR PEOPLE.
NOTHING FOR YOUR TRIBE. AND NOW
THAT THE TRIBES ARE BEING
INCLUDED WITH SOME OF THESE
PROGRAMS, IT'S VERY HARD TO EVEN
GET, YOU KNOW, ACCESS OR HARD TO
PASS THRESHOLD FOR US TO EVEN
APPLY TO GET HOUSING FOR OUR
PEOPLE. UM I KNOW THAT THERE'S A
MISCONCEPTION THAT ALL TRIBES
ARE GAMING OR YOU KNOW, GAMING
TRIBES AND GAVE ME TRIBES ARE
RICH TRIBES, BUT THAT'S NOT
TRUE. YOU KNOW, WE STILL HAVE A
NEED FOR OUR PEOPLE. WE STILL
HAVE A NEED FOR HOUSING. UM IT'S
TODAY. IT'S JUST SITTING HERE IS
AN HONOR FOR US TO SITTING IN
FRONT OF YOU AND YOU KNOW,
ASKING YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND
OUR BILL AND ALSO THAT IT'S BEEN
AMENDED TO REQUEST, YOU KNOW,
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST IF YOU SIGN
ON AS CO AUTHORS. BECAUSE IT'S
BEEN AMENDED, AND I KNOW THAT IT
COULD BE DONE AT THAT TIME. AND
I WOULD BE HONORED FOR THAT
WOULD BE HISTORICAL AND
MONUMENTAL. LIKE I SAID, FOR THE
TRIBES ACROSS THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA, 110 FEDERALLY
RECOGNIZED TRIBES THAT ARE
ASKING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ASKING
FOR HELP FOR HOUSING FOR
AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR OUR
PEOPLE. THANK YOU. HELLO MADAM
CHAIR AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS. I
WANT TO CALL OUT THE DATE TO
YOU. JANUARY 6TH 18 51 THAT
MARKS 172 YEARS OF POLICY BASED
EXCLUSIONARY REDLINING AND
EXTERMINATION BY THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA ON TRIBAL
COMMUNITIES. FOR MANY, THAT DATE
DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THAT THAT'S IN
THE PAST THAT SO LONG AGO, BUT I
SERVED THE HOMELESS
GRANDCHILDREN OF THOSE WHO THE
STATE COULDN'T EXTERMINATE. WHEN
I GO HOME TODAY, I GET TO LOOK
AT CHILDREN WHO ARE LIVING IN
STORAGE CONTAINERS WITH THEIR
FAMILY. WHEN WE LOOK AT THE
STATE POLICIES AND THINGS COMING
FORWARD, THE MITIGATION OF
HOMELESSNESS FOR ALL OF OUR
COMMUNITIES, TRIBES ARE LEFT
OUT. WE LOOK AT THE KAUAI CH
DATA THAT'S USED THAT DATA IS
INACCURATE. WE ARE MOTHERED. WE
ARE RED LINES, AND I ASK FOR
UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO MOVE THIS
BILL FORWARD IN AN ACTION OF
RESTORATIVE JUSTICE TO
CALIFORNIA'S FIRST PEOPLE. AS
YOU LEAVE HERE TODAY, YOU WALK
OVER THE GRAVES OF THOSE WHO
CALIFORNIA. SET OUT TO
EXTERMINATE IF WE WANT TO LESSEN
THE WEIGHT, AS SENATOR, MCGUIRE
SAID ON THE PUBLIC HEALTH
CRISIS, MITIGATE THE WEIGHT ON
MEDICAL INSURANCE COMPANIES,
EVERYTHING. THIS IS THE FIRST
STEP TO HELL THAT HISTORICAL
TRAUMA. SO I ASK THAT YOU MOVE
THIS FORWARD IN HONOR OF THAT
RESTORATIVE ACTION. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. ADDITIONAL FOLKS WISH
TO EXPRESS SUPPORT NAME
ORGANIZATION IN POSITION, PLEASE
. MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS
POLYESTER, AND WE HAVE THE
MENDOCINO COUNTY BOARD OF
SUPERVISORS HAPPY TO SUPPORT OUR
FRIENDS AND SOVEREIGN TRIBAL
GOVERNMENTS IN SUPPORT OF THE
BILL. THANK YOU. HELLO MY NAME
IS BRIAN WILLIAMS. I'M THE VICE
CHAIRPERSON OF THE RED RIVER
VALLEY RANCH AREA LITTLE BAND OF
POMO. INDIANS UM AND I PROUDLY
SUPPORT THIS BILL. THANK YOU TO
THE AUTHOR. ANDREW DAWSON, THE
CALIFORNIA HOUSING PARTNERSHIP
IN SUPPORT. BRIAN AUGUSTA ON
BEHALF OF THE RURAL COMMUNITY
ASSISTANCE CORPORATION AND
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. CHAIR AND
MEMBERS GALEN DOBBINS WITH THE
CALIFORNIA COALITION FOR RURAL
HOUSING AND SUPPORT. TALIA
D'AMATO ON BEHALF OF THE TOOLEY
RIVER TRIBE, AS WELL AS STRIKER,
GRAND JURY AND SUPPORT THANK YOU
ANY PRIMARY WITNESSES AND
OPPOSITION. AN ADDITIONAL FOLKS
WISH TO EXPRESS OPPOSITION.
OKAY, WE WILL BRING IT BACK TO
THE COMMITTEE. WE HAVE EMOTION.
AND A SECOND. NO QUESTIONS.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE?
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR MY VOTE AND
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ALL YOUR
WORK ON THIS VENTURE. THANK YOU.
AND I JUST WANT TO SAY I
APPRECIATE YOU RUNNING THIS
BILL. I APPRECIATE HEARING YOUR
TESTIMONY, SO THANK YOU FOR
COMING HERE TODAY. UM I THINK
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MANY OF
US CARE ABOUT WHEN IT COMES TO
HOUSING IS PARTICULARLY THOSE
WHO, UM ARE DISPROPORTIONATELY
IMPACTED BY A LOT OF THE
INTENDED AND UNINTENDED
CONSEQUENCES OF POLICY THAT WE
PUT FORTH IN THIS STATE. UM AND
I THINK PARTICULARLY AS IT
PERTAINS TO OUR TRIBAL
COMMUNITIES, WE HAVE A REAL
RECKONING TO ADDRESS HERE IN THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA. SO
HOPEFULLY THIS COULD BE PART OF
THAT. I'D LOVE TO BE ADDED ON AS
A CO AUTHOR, AND I'M HAPPY TO
SUPPORT THE BILL TODAY AND
WITHOUT THE MOTIONS DO PASS AS
AMENDED TO THE ASSEMBLY
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS.
WEEKS. WEEKS. I. PARIS IN PARIS
, AND I CARILLO D¯ÚI, GRAYSON,
GRACE AND I CHOLERA. QUIRK-SILVA
SANCHEZ SANCHEZ, I WORK FOR GUY.
6 TO 0. THAT BILL IS OUT AND WE
WILL LET FOLKS ADD ON WHEN THEY
COME BACK. AND YOUR NEXT BILL, I
BELIEVE IS NUMBER SIX SP 6 20
THANK YOU SO MUCH, MADAM CHAIR
AND MEMBERS WANTED TO SAY THANK
YOU, MADAM CHAIR AND TO YOUR
INCREDIBLE STAFF. WE LOVE
WORKING WITH YOU AND YOUR STAFF
AND, OF COURSE, WILL BE
ACCEPTING THE COMMITTEE
AMENDMENTS. I'LL BE VERY BRIEF
IN, SAY THAT CALIFORNIA'S
OUTDOOR RECREATIONAL ECONOMY IS
WORTH $54 BILLION. IT'S ONE OF
OUR LARGEST ECONOMIC DRIVERS IN
THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA IN ONE
OF THE TOP TIER DRIVERS WITHIN
OR OUTDOOR RECREATIONAL ECONOMY
IS CAMPING. IN SB 6 20 IS GOING
TO USHER IN GREATER AND MORE
AFFORDABLE ACCESS TO THE
OUTDOORS AND EXPANDED CAMPING
OPPORTUNITIES. THAT BILL WILL
ESTABLISH A NEEDED FRAMEWORK.
GUARDRAILS AND REGULATIONS FOR
LOW INCOME IMPACT. CAMPING TIN
SITES OR LESS, INCLUDING
IMPORTANT HEALTH AND SAFETY
REGULATIONS. IN ADDITION, THIS
BILL WILL EMPOWER LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS AND MANAGING OVER
AND SEE NEW LOW IMPACT CAMPAIGN
SITES AGAIN 10 SITES OR LESS,
AND IT'S GOING TO OPEN UP NEW
ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES FOR SOME
OF THE MOST ECONOMICALLY
DISADVANTAGED RURAL COMMUNITIES
HERE IN THE GOLDEN STATE. I HAVE
WITH US TODAY, AND WE'RE REALLY
GRATEFUL FOR THEIR AMAZING
PARTNERSHIP WILDER WITH THE
CALIFORNIA STATE ASSOCIATION OF
COUNTIES, THAT'S GO SEE SACK.
AND OF COURSE, WE HAVE LEXIE
GRIDDLE FIELD WITH THE
CALIFORNIA OUTDOOR RECREATION
PARTNERSHIP AND WOULD
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN I VOTE.
THANK YOU. YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES.
THANK YOU. CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE AND THANK YOU TO
SENATOR MCGUIRE AND HIS STAFF
FOR ALL THEIR HARD WORK AND
INCLUDING COUNTIES, AND ON THIS
CONVERSATION, WE REALLY DO
APPRECIATE MY NAME'S ADA WELDER
. I AM A LEGISLATIVE ADVOCATE
WITH THE CALIFORNIA STATE
ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES SACK. WE
REPRESENT ALL 58 COUNTIES IN
CALIFORNIA, AND WE'RE HERE IN
SUPPORT OF THIS BILL. SB 6 20
EMPOWERS LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO
MANAGE AND OVERSEE LOW IMPACT
CAMPSITES IN WAYS THAT WORK FOR
THEIR COMMUNITY. THE BILL DOES
NOT PREEMPT LOCAL LAWS THAT MAY
APPLY TO LOW IMPACT CAMPING
OPERATOR IN A SPECIFIC LOCAL
JURISDICTION AND INSTEAD ENSURES
THAT CAMPING OPERATORS COMPLY
WITH LOCAL REQUIREMENTS WHILE
ALSO ESTABLISHING MINIMUM HEALTH
AND SAFETY REGULATIONS AT THE
STATE LEVEL. ALSO SUPPORTS
EFFORTS LIKE SB 6 20 TO PROMOTE
AGRICULTURAL, HISTORIC AND
NATURAL RESOURCES. TOURISM
THROUGHOUT THE STATE. ON AVERAGE
, WE SEE CAMPERS SPEND AROUND
$300 PER PERSON AT LOCAL
RESTAURANTS, CAFES, GEAR SHOPS,
FARM STANDS, ETCETERA AND THESE
TOURISM DOLLARS STIMULATE LOCAL
ECONOMIES BY PROVIDING
SUSTAINABLE REVENUE FOR SMALL
BUSINESSES AND HELPING TO CREATE
JOBS. LOW IMPACT CAMPING WOULD
HELP DRIVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
INTO RURAL AND OFTEN
UNDERDEVELOPED COMMUNITIES. IN
ADDITION, THIS BILL WILL
FACILITATE LOCAL LANDOWNERS,
INCLUDING SMALL FARMERS AND
RANCHERS FROM ACROSS THE STATE
TO EARN A DIVERSE AND
SUPPLEMENTAL INCOME STREAM FROM
HOSTING CAMPERS. IN SUMMARY SP 6
20 WOULD CLARIFY STATE AND LOCAL
AUTHORITY AND INCREASE ACCESS TO
THE OUTDOORS WHILE PROVIDING
ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY TO THESE
RURAL COMMUNITIES. CSX STRONGLY
ENCOURAGES YOU TO SUPPORT SB 6
20. WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME
TODAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
CHAIR WICKS AND A C MEMBERS OF
THE COMMITTEE FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO OFFER COMMENTS ON
SENATE BILL 6 20. THANK YOU,
SENATOR REQUIRE FOR YOUR
CONTINUED DEDICATION IS CRITICAL
ISSUE. MY NAME IS LEXI GIRDLE
FALL AND I REPRESENT THE
CALIFORNIA OUTDOOR RECREATION
PARTNERSHIP. WE ARE REPRESENTING
OVER 80, PLUS OUTER INDUSTRY
COMPANIES AND ORGANIZATIONS
THROUGHOUT THE STATE, AND WE
INCLUDE GEAR, MANUFACTURERS,
RETAILERS, GUIDES AND MORE.
PARTICIPATION IN OUTDOOR
RECREATION SKYROCKETED DURING
THE PANDEMIC. IN FACT, ABOUT
HALF OF ALL CALIFORNIANS
PARTICIPATE IN OUTDOOR
RECREATION LAST YEAR, AND
CALIFORNIA'S OUTDOOR RECREATION
ECONOMY IS ONE OF THE LARGEST
ECONOMIC DRIVERS. IT'S WORTH AN
ESTIMATED $54 BILLION. NO
IMPACT. CAMPING HAS ALSO GROWN
AND IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF HOW
THE OUTDOOR RECREATION INDUSTRY
IS RESPONDING TO CHANGING
CONSUMER PREFERENCES. LOW IMPACT
CAMPING AREAS OFFER A RANGE OF
ACCOMMODATION TYPES AT ALL PRICE
POINTS AND ARE SPREAD THROUGHOUT
THE STATE. HOWEVER THERE ARE
STILL TOO FEW CAMPSITES TO
ACCOMMODATE ALL CALIFORNIANS WHO
WANT TO CAMP. IN FACT, A RECENT
STUDY SHOWED THAT MORE THAN HALF
OF THE PEOPLE WHO STARTED
CAMPING IN THE PAST FEW YEARS SO
THEY WILL LIKELY CAMP LESS OFTEN
NEXT YEAR DUE TO OVERCROWDING
BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF NEW
CAMPERS ARE PEOPLE OF COLOR
BARRIERS LIKE THESE
DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACT
POPULATIONS WHO HAVE BEEN
HISTORICALLY EXCLUDED FROM OUR
OUTDOOR SPACE IS AT THE CORE OF
THIS ISSUE. OUR EXISTING STATE
PERMITTING REQUIREMENTS, WHICH
WERE DESIGNED FOR LARGE
CAMPGROUNDS AND ARE TOO
FINANCIALLY BURDENSOME AND
IMPRACTICAL, ESPECIALLY FOR
PROPERTIES WITH JUST A HANDFUL
OF TEMPER. VERY CAMPSITES. 6 20
TAKES A COMMON SENSE APPROACH
AND DIFFERENTIATES BETWEEN
COMMERCIAL CAMPGROUNDS AND LOW
IMPACT CAMPING. THE PROPOSED
BILL WOULD ESTABLISH
REQUIREMENTS AND SAFEGUARDS FOR
LOW IMPACT, CAMPING THAT ARE
APPROPRIATE AND RIGHT SIZE FOR
THIS ACTIVITY BY STREAMLINING
THE PERMITTING PROCESS. I SPEAK
6 20 WILL USHER AND GREATER AND
MORE AFFORDABLE ACCESS TO THE
OUTDOORS AND EXPAND CAMPING
OPPORTUNITIES FOR ALL
CALIFORNIANS. WITHOUT THESE
CAMPING OPPORTUNITIES, OUTDOOR
OVERNIGHT STAYS MAYBE AUTO
REACHED YOU TOO. LACK OF ACCESS
COSTS ARE INCREASED COMPETITION
FOR PUBLIC CAMPSITES AND SUMMARY
OF THIS BILL WOULD INCREASE THE
SUPPLY OF OUTDOOR ACCOMMODATIONS
AT ALL PRICE POINTS TO MEET THE
CURRENT AND EXPECTED INCREASED
DEMAND. LOW IMPACT CAMPING HELPS
PROVIDE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL
CALIFORNIANS TO EXPERIENCE THE
BENEFITS OF THE OUTDOORS. WE
STRONGLY RECOMMEND THE PASSAGE
OF THIS BILL AND THANK YOU SO
MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. YEAH THANK
YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL FOLKS WISH
TO EXPRESS SUPPORT, PLEASE NAME
ORGANIZATION IN POSITION. HI MY
NAME IS MASON SMITH ON BEHALF OF
HIP CAMP IN STRONG SUPPORT OF
THE BILL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING, MADAM CHAIRMAN
BRIAN WHITE WITH THE FOREST
ANIMALS OF CALIFORNIA. WE LOOK
FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THE
AUTHOR'S GREAT BILL, AND WE
APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. ELENA PERRY ON
BEHALF OF SAVE THE REDWOODS
LEAGUE AND SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. ANY PRIMARY WITNESSES
IN OPPOSITION. ANY ADDITIONAL
FOLKS WISH TO EXPRESS
OPPOSITION. WE'LL BRING IT BACK
TO THE COMMITTEE. QUESTIONS.
OKAY. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? WE
HAVE A MOTION BY MR GRAYSON, A
SECOND BY MR WARD. WOULD YOU
LIKE TO CLOSE WITH RESPECT? WE
ASK FOR MY VOTE AND THANK YOU
AGAIN, MADAM CHAIR. VERY
GRATEFUL. THANK YOU, MR MAJORITY
LEADER FOR AUTHORING THE BILL.
HAPPY TO SUPPORT IT TODAY. THE
MOTIONS DO PASS AS AMENDED TO
THE ASSEMBLY COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS WEEKS. WEEKS I
PERSON PERSONALLY CARILLO VÚI
GRAYSON, GRACE AND I CHOLERA.
CHOLERA I QUIRK-SILVA
QUIRK-SILVA SANCHEZ SANCHEZ. I
WORK WORK. I 8 TO 0. THANK YOU
SO MUCH. THANKS THANK YOU VERY
MUCH BACK THROUGH. UM I THINK A
COUPLE BILLS THAT MR CHOLERA AND
MISS QUIRK-SILVA T DAD ON NUMBER
ONE. CHOLERA. COLOR. I
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