GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE. I KNOW
IT'S BEEN A MINUTE. YEAH EXACTLY
. IT WAS THAT LEGISLATIVE
SOFTBALL GAME. I REALLY LIKE,
YOU KNOW. I DID GET ONE. GOOD
HIT. I'M NOT GONNA LIE. OKAY WE
WILL START AS A SUBCOMMITTEE,
AND I BELIEVE WE JUST ADJOURNED
IN THE ASSEMBLY. AND I KNOW OUR
AUTHOR WILL BE HERE SHORTLY.
WELCOME TO THE ASSEMBLY, HOUSING
AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
COMMITTEE HEARING. WE HAVE ONE
ITEM ON OUR AGENDA TODAY. THE
BILL CAN HAVE TWO MAIN WITNESSES
IN SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION. EACH
MAY WITNESS GETS TWO MINUTES
EACH. THERE IS NO PHONE
TESTIMONY OPTION FOR THIS
HEARING ALL WITNESSES TESTIMONY
WILL BE IN PERSON PLACE WILL
PARTICIPANT WRITTEN TESTIMONY
THROUGH THE POSITION PORTAL ON
THE COMMITTEE'S WEBSITE WILL
BECOME PART OF THE OFFICIAL
RECORD OF THE BILL. THE HEARING
WILL BE OPEN FOR ATTENDANCE OF
THIS HEARING. ALL ARE ENCOURAGED
TO WATCH THIS HEARING FROM ITS
LIVESTREAM MONEY ASSEMBLIES
WEBSITE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR
PATIENCE AND UNDERSTANDING. AND
IF YOU ARE IN ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
WHO'S ON THIS COMMITTEE, PLEASE
COME JOIN THE COMMITTEE. AND IF
YOU ARE THE AUTHOR OF THE BILL,
WE ALSO WELCOME YOUR
PARTICIPATION, SO WE WILL WAIT
QUIETLY FOR THE REST OF OUR
COLLEAGUES HERE TO SHOW ABOUT
WHAT WILL BE STARTING
MOMENTARILY.
WE WILL TAKE ROLL ESTABLISH A
QUORUM. WEEKS HERE, WEEKS HERE
PERSON PERSON HERE. KOREA KOREA
HERE, GABRIELLE GABRIELLE HERE.
CHOLERA QUIRK-SILVA SANCHEZ
SANCHEZ HERE WORK. OR FIVE. WE
DO HAVE FORUM. GREAT. WE HAVE
CORN.
YEAH.
HI, SENATOR EDMUND.
THANK YOU, SENATOR FOR JOINING
US. THANK YOU, EVERYONE FOR, UH,
BEING TIMELY HERE TODAY. UM,
BEFORE WE BEGIN, I JUST WANNA
MAKE A COUPLE OF REMARKS HERE.
UM DUE TO TIMING ISSUES, THE
AMENDMENTS WILL BE TAKEN IN
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE WE'RE
GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AND
MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ON THE SAME
PAGE ON THIS. WE'RE GOING TO
MOVE FORWARD WITH AMENDMENT ONE.
IN THE ANALYSIS. WE'RE GOING TO
CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE
ADMINISTRATION AND AUTHOR ON
AMENDMENTS 23 AND FOUR. I
BELIEVE THE AMENDMENTS WOULD ADD
A REQUIREMENT THAT HOUSING
FUNDED BY M. H S A COMPLY WITH
HOUSING FIRST CALIFORNIA'S
HOUSING FIRST STATE, WHICH
REQUIRES ANY HOUSING FUNDED TO
BE PROVIDED WITHOUT PRECONDITION
. THIS BILL WOULD ALLOW FUNDING
TO GO TOWARDS RECOVERY HOUSING,
WHICH FITS WITHIN HOUSING FIRST
, EXCEPT THAT CLIENTS CANNOT USE
DRUGS NOW CALL THE U. S.
DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN
DEVELOPMENT HAS PROVIDED
GUIDANCE ON HOW RECOVERY HOUSING
CAN COMPLY WITH HOUSING FIRST.
WE ARE EXPLORING IF ANY
EXCEPTIONS TO HOUSING FIRST CAN
BE ADDED TO ALLOW RECOVERY
HOUSING TO COMPLY WITH HEAD
GUIDANCE AS A CONDITION OF BEING
EXEMPT FROM HOUSING FIRST. IN
ADDITION, WE ARE WORKING WITH
THE ADMINISTRATION TO MAKE SURE
THAT THE STREAMLINING BY RIGHT
PROCESS FOR HEALTHCARE
FACILITIES WORKS BASED ON THE
CURRENT UNDERLYING ZONING FOR
THOSE FACILITIES. UM AND WITH
THAT, I WILL NOW TURN OVER TO
THE AUTHOR MISS EGGMAN TO
PRESENT SP 3 26. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. HELLO MEMBERS. NICE TO BE
HERE. UM I KNOW YOU ALL RUSHED
DOWN AFTER SESSION. AND OF
COURSE I LEFT CAUCUS TO COME.
AND SO, UM, THANK YOU. UM AND
THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO
HEAR THIS IMPORTANT BILL TODAY.
I KNOW WE'RE ALREADY DONE WITH
OUR WORK. AND BUT AS WE KNOW,
OUR WORK NEVER ENDS UNTIL THE
CLOCK FINALLY FINISHES. AND THIS
ONE IS ONE. THAT IS BIG ENOUGH.
UM AND WE'LL GO TO THE VOTERS
THAT WE THOUGHT THAT YOU KNOW,
WE'LL TAKE AS MUCH TIME AS
POSSIBLE TO WORK WITH IT BECAUSE
IT'S NOT GOOD TO GET THINGS DONE
IF THEY'RE NOT DONE RIGHT, AND,
UM AND SO JUST TO START OFF TO
SAY, UH, ACCEPTING THE
AMENDMENTS AND IN CONCEPT AS THE
CHAIR WENT OVER, UM AND WHY IS
IT NOW IS THE TIME NOW TO REDO
OUR IMAGE ESSAY. RIGHT WHY IS
THE TIME NOW IT'S BEEN 20 YEARS
IN PASSING AND I'LL SAY AS A AS
A SOCIAL WORKER AS A PROFESSOR
OF SOCIAL WORK. I WAS AROUND THE
FIRST TIME IT PASSED AND HEARD,
YOU KNOW, AND I'LL SAY THERE WAS
A LOT OF SCARES AND TREPIDATION
AT THAT TIME. RIGHT. ANYTIME YOU
CHANGE ANYTHING, PEOPLE GET
NERVOUS THAT WHAT THEY HAVE MAY
SHIFT AND MAY CHANGE AND THAT'S
TRUE. RIGHT WE ALL KNOW THAT
THINGS CHANGE OVER TIME. AND
CALIFORNIA LOOKS VERY DIFFERENT
TODAY THAN IT LOOKED 20 YEARS
AGO. BOTH IN I THINK THE LEVEL
OF SUBSIDY USE AND ADDICTION AND
MENTAL HEALTH THAT WE SO VISIBLY
SEE. AND ADDITIONALLY IS ALSO
CHANGED IN AT ONE POINT, THERE
WAS A LARGE NUMBER 20 YEARS AGO.
THERE'S A LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE
WITHOUT HEALTH CARE INSURANCE.
NOW WE KNOW THAT NUMBER IS VERY
SMALL OF THOSE WITHOUT
HEALTHCARE INSURANCE A LONG TIME
AGO. WE DIDN'T PAY FOR HOUSING
THROUGH SOMETHING LIKE CALLUM OR
CARE COURT OR SO MANY OF THE
OTHER THINGS THAT WE PASS. WE
HAVE DONE ALL OF THOSE, SO THIS
IS NOT DONE. OUT OF CONTEXT.
THIS IS DONE AS A WHOLE
CONTINUUM OF CARE AS WE LAST
YEAR WE DIDN'T CARE COURT.
HOPEFULLY THIS YEAR. WE'RE ALSO
DOING WHAT IT MEANS TO BE
GRAVELY DISABLED IN CALIFORNIA
AS WE DO THIS AS WE DO, CALLUM
AS WE'VE DONE ALL THE BEHAVIORAL
HEALTH WORK THAT WE'VE DONE.
IT'S ALSO TIME TO CHANGE AND WE
LOOK AT AND RE MODERNIZE. THE
WAY THAT WE ACTUALLY USE THIS,
WHICH IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST
STREAMS OF MONEY THAT GOES DOWN
TO CARE FOR, FOLKS. SO UM,
THAT'S WHAT WE THINK NOW IS THE
TIME AND AGAIN. THIS WILL GO TO
THE VOTERS TO THE VOTERS HAVE A
CHANCE TO WEIGH IN ON THIS. TWO
OF THE KEY THINGS. I'VE GOT ALL
MY TALKING POINTS, BUT THE KEY
THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE
CHANGING OR THE BUCKETS AND HOW
WE SPEND THE MONEY. WE ARE GOING
TO RE PRIORITIZE THE STATE IS
GOING TO SAY WE REALLY NEED TO
FOCUS AND PRIORITIZE. ON THOSE
THAT ARE THE MOST ILL AND WE'RE
ALSO GOING TO SAY AND AGAIN WHEN
WE INITIALLY DID MENTAL HEALTH
LEGISLATION WAY BACK WITH LPS,
WE INCLUDED ALCOHOLISM, SO WHY
WOULDN'T WE INCLUDE SUBSIDIES
USE NOW BECAUSE WE KNOW THERE
ARE SO FEW PEOPLE WHO ONLY HAVE
ONE, BUT THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE
WHO JUST HAVE USED SUBSIDIES TO
THE EXTENT THAT THEY HAVE BECOME
PSYCHOTIC SCHIZOPHRENIC.
WHATEVER SO WE NEED TO BE ABLE
TO TREAT THEM AS WELL. THOSE ARE
THE BIGGEST PORTIONS THAT WE'RE
CHANGING AND THE POTS AND HOW
THEY'RE DIVIDED. MORE
INTENTIONALITY ABOUT SERVING
THOSE WITH THE GREATEST NEED
THROUGH OUR FULL SERVICE
PARTNERSHIPS, WHICH ARE EVIDENCE
BASED PEOPLE KNOW THEY WORK, UM
, BEING ABLE TO TREAT SUBSTANCE
ABUSE, AND THEN THE OTHER RIG
CHANGE WILL BE ABLE TO USE PART
OF THIS FUNDING FOR HOUSING. OF
COURSE, THE BOND THAT WE'RE
DOING IS THE ONE THAT'S GOING TO
PROVIDE. HOPEFULLY 10,000 NEW
UNITS. THANK YOU FOR THE CHAIR
FOR CONTINUED TO WORK ON THOSE
KINDS OF LANGUAGE. UM OF THE
VILLAGES AND COTTAGES AND THE
THINGS THAT WE KNEW WAY BACK
WHEN WE FIRST DID LPS THAT WOULD
NEED TO COME AFTERWARDS. THE
LIVING SUPPORTS WAS IT WAS IT
RIGHT TO CLOSE OUR STATE
HOSPITALS AND SAY
INSTITUTIONALIZED IS BAD? OF
COURSE IT WAS, BUT I THINK AT
THAT TIME WE FORGOT IN 20 YEARS
AFTER THAT LPS PASSED WE SAW.
OH, MY GOODNESS, BUT THAT
HOUSING THAT WAS THERE THAT
WRAPAROUND CARE THAT WAS THERE
THAT MEDICATION MANAGEMENT WAS
THERE WAS AN IMPORTANT PART OF
WHAT WAS HAPPENING, AND WE BEGAN
TO SEE RIGHT AWAY A RUSH OF
FOLKS TO THE STREETS AFTER ARE
WE CLOSE OUT SO THIS IS GOING
BACK TO THE PROMISES WE MADE TO
SAY. LET'S PROVIDE ALL THAT
COTTAGE TYPE HOUSING THAT
COMMUNITY HOUSING BECAUSE THERE
ARE ALWAYS BE THOSE AMONGST US
WHO ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO
LIVE TOTALLY INDEPENDENTLY.
THERE JUST IS. WE'VE ACCEPTED
THAT FOR SOME POPULATIONS, NOT
FOR OTHERS. SO NOW WE'RE BACK,
SAYING LET'S REDO THIS. LET'S
MAKE SURE WE USE EVERY MONEY
AVAILABLE TO US THROUGH ALL THE
OTHER AVENUES. WE HAVE TO PULL
DOWN FEDERAL FUNDING TO DO
INSURANCE BUILDING ALL OF THOSE
THINGS. LET'S BE ABLE TO RE
PRIORITIZES MONEY ON THE ONES
THAT NEEDED THE MOST. AND WE
KNOW THAT PEOPLE DON'T GET
BETTER UNLESS THEY'RE IN HOUSING
SO REALLY BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE
HOUSING COMPONENT FOR THOSE WHO
ARE THE MOST ILL AND I HAVE WITH
ME, UM MICHELLE, BOSS FROM THE
HEALTH DEPARTMENT, AS WELL AS
MILES WHITE ARE ACTING DEPUTY OF
SECRETARY OF LEGISLATION AT THE
B. S. C. A THANK YOU. GOOD
AFTERNOON, UH, CHAIR MEMBERS.
MICHELE BOSS, DIRECTOR OF THE
DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH CARE
SERVICES, AS YOU KNOW, AS THE
SENATOR MENTIONED SINCE 2019 WE
REALLY EMBARKED ON MASSIVE
INVESTMENTS TOGETHER IN THE
BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SPACE. THIS
INCLUDES KELL AIM OUR BEHAVIOR,
HEALTH CONTINUUM INFRASTRUCTURE
PROGRAM CARE, THE CHILDREN AND
YOUTH BEHAVIORAL HEALTH
INITIATIVE, BEHAVIORAL HEALTH,
BRIDGE HOUSING DOLLARS JUST TO
NAME A FEW. AND REALLY THIS
PROPOSAL BUILDS UPON AND
COMPLEMENTS THOSE EFFORTS AND
REALLY ADDRESSES THE REMAINING
GAPS. MOST NOTE. DOUBLY HOUSING.
WORKFORCE AND REALLY, THE
ABILITY TO SERVE THOSE WITH
SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER NEEDS.
THE GOVERNOR'S PROPOSAL REALLY
IS COMPOSED OF TWO DIFFERENT
BILLS. SB 3 TO 6, WHICH WE'RE
HERE TO DISCUSS. AND THEN MAYBE
531, WHICH CONTAINS THE GENERAL
OBLIGATION BOND TO BUILD OUT THE
BEHAVIORAL HEALTH TREATMENT AND
RESIDENTIAL FACILITIES AND
PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING
UNITS JUST TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF
THE KEY CHANGES WITH REGARD TO
SP 3 TO 6 AND THE MENTAL HEALTH
SERVICES ACT. WE ARE RENAMING IT
THE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SERVICES
ACT JUST TO REALLY RECOGNIZE
THAT THESE DOLLARS CAN BE USED
AS A TOOL BY COUNTIES TO SERVE
THOSE WHO HAVE JUST SUBSTANCES
USE DISORDER NEEDS. WE ARE ALSO
REIMAGINING HOW THOSE LOCAL
DOLLARS SO MOST OF THE IMAGES
ARE BHS $8 GO DIRECTLY TO OUR
COUNTY PARTNERS AND HOW THOSE
DOLLARS MUST BE SENT. SO WE HAVE
NOW, UH, HOUSING INTERVENTION
BUCKET WHERE 30% OF THE LOCAL
REVENUES WILL BE DEPOSITED TO BE
USED FOR HOUSING INTERVENTIONS,
SUCH AS RENTAL SUBSIDY. HE'S
OPERATING SUBSIDIES SHARED
HOUSING. 35% OF THE LOCAL
DOLLARS FOR FULL SERVICE
PARTNERSHIPS. THIS IS REALLY A
WHATEVER IT TAKES APPROACH TO
SERVE, UM INDIVIDUALS WITH
BEHAVIORAL HEALTH CONDITIONS AND
REALLY STANDARDIZING WHAT FSP
MEANS AT THE COUNTY LEVEL AND
PROVIDING SOME LEVELS AND
STANDARDS OF CARE BASED ON
ACUITY AND NEEDS SO THAT WE CAN
UNDERSTAND KIND OF IT'S AN
APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON
ACROSS THE COUNTIES ON WHAT FSP
MEANS AND THEN 30% FOR 35% FOR
BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SERVICES AND
SUPPORTS AND THIS IS REALLY KIND
OF THIS IS WHERE THE EARLY
INTERVENTION DOLLARS WILL BE.
THIS IS 50% OF OUR B. H S S. POT
IS FOR EARLY INTERVENTION. AND
THEN SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT
WE'VE HAD RECENTLY WITH THAT 30
51% OF THOSE DOLLARS BE DIRECTED
FOR CHILDREN AND YOUTH. UM, AND
THEN WE'VE ALSO PROVIDED THE
ABILITY FOR COUNTIES TO MOVE
DOLLARS BETWEEN THESE POTS,
DEPENDING ON THEIR LOCAL
PLANNING NEEDS, DEPENDING ON
STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT AT THE
LOCAL LEVEL AND REALLY
REFLECTING SOME OF THE
CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD IN THE
RECENT WEEKS WITH REGARD TO
COUNTIES, NEEDING SOME
FLEXIBILITY TO MOVE SOME OF THE
DOLLARS BETWEEN THESE TWO POTS.
UM AND THEN, JUST TO MAYBE KIND
OF QUICKLY CONCLUDE ONE OF THE
OTHER KEY PIECES AS PART OF OUR
PROPOSAL IS REALLY TO RETHINK
HOW COUNTIES PLAN FOR THEIR S A
OR B H S A DOLLARS TODAY THAT
THREE YEAR PLANNING PROCESSES
FOCUSED REALLY ONLY ON MENTAL
HEALTH SERVICES ACT DOLLARS.
UNDER THIS PROPOSAL, WE ARE
PROPOSING A COUNTY INTEGRATED
BEHAVIORAL HEALTH PLAN WHERE
COUNTIES WILL REALLY PULL
TOGETHER ALL OF THEIR COMMUNITY
BEHAVIORAL HEALTH FUNDING AND
PROGRAMS. SO THIS INCLUDES
MEDICAL REAL LIFE. PAYMENT SOME
OF THE FEDERAL BLOCK GRANTS IN
ADDITION TO BHS A AND WILL
INCLUDE MANY MORE PARTNERS WHO
ARE REALLY CONTRIBUTORS TO THIS
SPACE WHO REALLY HAVE A ROLE AND
HELPING INDIVIDUALS WITH
BEHAVIORAL HEALTH NEEDS SO NOW
CONTINUUM OF CARE, FOR EXAMPLE,
AREA AGENCIES ON AGING CHILD
WELFARE REALLY, HOW DO WE PULL
TOGETHER ALL OF THE DIFFERENT
ENTITIES AND COMMUNITY BASED
ORGANIZATIONS AND ORGANIZATIONS
THAT REALLY HAVE AN
UNDERSTANDING OF THEIR
COMMUNITIES AND WHAT WORKS IN
THEIR COMMUNITIES TO DEFINE WHAT
COUNTIES INTEGRATED PLAN WILL BE
FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS AND
THEN FINALLY, AS PART OF THAT,
ALSO REQUIRING A LOT MORE
REPORTING AT THE COUNTY LEVEL ON
THE DOLLARS THAT GO INTO THE
COMMUNITY BEHAVIOR HEALTH SYSTEM
. HOW THOSE DOLLARS ARE USED?
WHAT'S IN RESERVE WHAT STILL
NEEDS TO BE SPENT, SO WE HAVE A
COMPREHENSIVE UNDERSTANDING FOR
HERE'S THE THREE YEAR PLAN HERE
AT THE STATE GOALS IN THE LOCAL
GOALS. HOW DID YOU USE THOSE
DOLLARS TO ACHIEVE THE METRICS
OR OUTCOMES THAT WE'RE ALL
WORKING TO ACHIEVE? I'M HERE TO
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.
JUST MILES AWAY WITH THE
BUSINESS CONSUMER SERVICES
HOUSING AGENCY JUST TO BRIEFLY
SUPPLEMENT THE DIRECTOR AND
SENATORS POINTS HERE. THE REALLY
THE TREMENDOUS RESOURCES THAT WE
PUT THE BEAR AT THE STATE LEVEL
AND ALMOST THIS AND HOUSING
PERMITS. SUPPORTIVE HOUSING,
REALLY THE FOUR KIND OF SPECTRUM
OF SUPPORTS THAT NECESSARY RIGHT
TO MAKE THESE LONG TERM VIABLE
UNITS, WHETHER IT'S HUNKY OR
OTHER COUNTLESS NO PLACE LIKE
HOME UNITS THROUGHOUT THE STATE
THAT WE REALLY SEEMS TARGETED
LONG TERM SUCCESS THAT'S REALLY
GOING TO BE AUGMENTED HERE BY
THE EAST. INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF
RESOURCES, ONGOING NATURE THAT I
KNOW THIS COMMITTEE IN THE
LEGISLATURE PRIORITIZED EFFORTS
TO CONTINUE TO PUT THE STATE'S
RESOURCES TO BEAR AND TO MAKE,
YOU KNOW, SCALE OUR PROGRESS.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. LET'S GO
TO ADDITIONAL FOLKS IN THE ROOM
WISH TO EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR THE
BILL. NAME ORGANIZATION IN
POSITION, PLEASE. GOOD AFTERNOON
CHAIR AND MEMBERS TARGET THE
EASTMAN WITH THE STEINBERG
INSTITUTE AND SUPPORT. NICO
MOLINA ON BEHALF OF THE SILICON
VALLEY LEADERSHIP GROUP AND
SUPPORT THANK YOU. MARINA WHITE
WITH THE CALIFORNIA HOUSING
CONSORTIUM AND SUPPORT GOOD
AFTERNOON MORE ATOP ON BEHALF OF
THE BIG CITY MAYORS COALITION.
IT'S THE COALITION OF MAYORS OF
THE 13 LARGEST CITIES IN THE
STATE. ASK FOR YOUR VOTE. ALEXIS
RODRIGUEZ WITH THE CALIFORNIA
MEDICAL ASSOCIATION AND SUPPORT
. MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS. RAND
MARTIN HERE ON BEHALF OF BIG
BROTHERS, BIG SISTERS OF
CALIFORNIA AND SUPPORTIVE
AMENDED POSITION. THANK YOU.
GOOD AFTERNOON, LIZZIE CUT SONA
HERE ON BEHALF OF THE SAN
FRANCISCO MAYOR. LONDON BREED
THE CITY AND COUNTY OF SAN
FRANCISCO BOARD OF SUPERVISORS
BEVERLY HILLS MAYOR JULIAN A.
GOLD IN THE CITY OF WEST
HOLLYWOOD IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
GOOD AFTERNOON SHOWN LEGAL WITH
HOUSING CALIFORNIA HERE IN
SUPPORT. CHRIS MARTIN ON BEHALF
OF THE CORPORATION FOR
SUPPORTIVE HOUSING IN THE
NATIONAL ALLIANCE AND
HOMELESSNESS SUPPORTING CONCEPT.
MARK'S DIVERS, THE CALIFORNIA
HOUSING PARTNERSHIP AND SUPPORT
THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON, ROSS
BUCKNAM BETH OF SACRAMENTO MAYOR
JUSTIN BOURQUE AND SUPPORT
CAROLINE CIRINCIONE ON BEHALF OF
THE LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES
AND SUPPORT. ACOSTA ON BEHALF OF
THE SACRAMENT OF HOUSING
ALLIANCE. WE REPRESENT OVER A
DOZEN NONPROFIT, AFFORDABLE
HOUSING DEVELOPERS AND THE
SACRAMENTO REGION IN SUPPORT.
THE LAST GUY FOR THE GREATEST
SACRAMENT OF URBAN LEAGUE AND
SUPPORT. SHARING CONSUL VOUS ON
BEHALF OF THE CITIES OF
BAKERSFIELD IN CARL'S PATENT
SUPPORT. GOOD AFTERNOON OR
EVENING, CURE HARASTA ON BEHALF
OF THE AIR, LINCOLN AND THE CITY
OF STOCKTON AND SUPPORT GOOD
AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS AND THE REST RAMIREZ ON
BEHALF OF THE CITIES OF OAKLAND,
BERKELEY, SAN LEANDRO,
EMERYVILLE, PALO ALTO, TRACY AND
COMPTON, AS WELL AS THE MAYOR OF
HALF MOON BAY, ALL IN STRONG
SUPPORT. HELLO EVERYBODY.
RICHARDSON DAVIS WITH THE
CALIFORNIA ALLIANCE OR
BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AGENCIES. WE
HAVE A NEUTRAL POSITION ON THE
BILL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE
WILL NOT GO TO PRIMARY WITNESSES
IN OPPOSITION.
HELLO THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON
. SHARON COMMITTEE MEMBERS. MY
NAME IS DANNY TERKEL WITH THE
CALIFORNIA YOUTH EMPOWERMENT
NETWORK AND WITH MENTAL WITH
AMERICA OF CALIFORNIA. I'M
APPEAR. TRANSITION IS YOUTH, AS
WELL AS A FAMILY MEMBER LIKE TO
FIRST THINK ADMINISTRATION STAFF
AND COMMITTEE FOR WORKING WITH
SOME STAKEHOLDERS ON AMENDMENTS
. WE HAVE SUBMITTED AMENDMENTS
THAT WOULD INCREASE THE PIER
VOICE ENSURE THAT YOU CAN ACCESS
MENTAL SERVICES AND ENCOURAGE
PEER LED SERVICES THAT BEING
SAID, WE REMAIN IN OPPOSITION TO
SB 3 26. CALIFORNIA IS FACING A
HOUSING CRISIS. PEOPLE DO NOT
CANNOT ACCESS, AFFORDABLE
HOUSING AND THE STATE NEEDS TO
MAKE MEANINGFUL INVESTMENTS TO
REDUCE THE NUMBER OF IN HOUSE
RESIDENCES IN THE STATE. THIS
SHOULD NOT HAPPEN AT THE EXPENSE
OF PEOPLE LIVING WITH A MENTAL
HEALTH CHALLENGE LOSING
SERVICES. THIS NARRATIVE THAT
MENTAL AND BEHAVIORAL HEALTH
CHALLENGES CAUSES HOMELESSNESS
IS FALSE. WE HEARD FROM DR
CRUCIAL AND HER STATEWIDE STUDY
OF PEOPLE EXPERIENCING
HOMELESSNESS AT LAST WEEK'S
INFORMATIONAL HEARING THAT
MENTAL BEHAVIORAL HEALTH
CHALLENGES ARE SYMPTOMS OF
HOMELESSNESS. AND WE ARE TO WORK
TOGETHER TO ADDRESS THE HOUSING
CRISIS. THE STATE SHOULD HOLD
LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES ACCOUNTABLE
FOR THE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS
ALREADY ALLOCATED TO BUILD THE
REQUIRED HOUSING FOR LOW AND
VERY LOW INCOME EARNERS, AS
IDENTIFIED IN THE REGIONAL
HOUSING NEEDS ALLOCATION PROCESS
. THE STATE HAS ALREADY INVESTED
BILLIONS OF DOLLARS TOWARDS
NUMEROUS HOUSING PROGRAMS
WITHOUT THE APPROPRIATE
OVERSIGHT OR INTENDED OUTCOME.
LET'S MAKE SURE THAT THE MONEY
SPENT ARE SPENDING ARE BEING
SPENT EFFECTIVELY. THE MENTAL
HEALTH SERVICES ACT FUNDS SHOULD
NOT BE RE ALLOCATED. THE FUNDS
SHOULD CONTINUE TO SERVE OUR
MOST VULNERABLE POPULATIONS WITH
A SERIOUS ILLNESS SO THAT CAN
RECEIVE THE SUPPORT AND SERVICES
THEY NEED, INCLUDING HOUSING
INTERVENTIONS, WHICH ARE ALREADY
ALLOWED AND AVAILABLE IN SCHOOL
SERVICE PARTNERSHIPS. DIVERTING
30% OF MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES
FUND. FOR HOUSING INTERVENTIONS
TO ADDRESS ENCAMPMENTS WILL
RESULT IN SIGNIFICANT REDUCTIONS
OF ACCESSIBLE, CULTURALLY
RESPONSIVE, COMMUNITY BASED
SERVICES. WE URGE THIS COMMITTEE
TO EXAMINE THE TRUE CAUSE OF THE
RISE IN HOMELESSNESS WITHOUT A
THOROUGH AND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
. WE RISK THE SAME OUTCOMES. WE
ARE CURRENTLY ATTEMPTING TO
RESOLVE. PLEASE VOTE NO ON SP 3
26. HELLO EVERYBODY. MY NAME IS
KATIE SOMMERFELD. AND
RESPECTFULLY. I ASKED THAT
EVERYBODY PLEASE LISTEN TO WHAT
I HAVE TO SAY. I AM A PROUD PEER
WITH LIVED EXPERIENCE WITH
MENTAL HEALTH DIAGNOSES AND I
WORK AT CAMP PRO, THE CALIFORNIA
ASSOCIATION OF MENTAL HEALTH
CARE RUN ORGANIZATIONS. WHEN I
WAS IN A DEEP DEPRESSION,
CONTEMPLATING MY OWN SUICIDE
FIVE YEARS AGO, I FINALLY GOT
HELP THROUGH PEER SUPPORT AND
AFTER WORKING PROFESSIONALLY IN
BEHAVIORAL, HEALTH AND MENTAL
HEALTH SPACES FOR OVER MORE THAN
10 YEARS, AND AFTER GOING
THROUGH INTENSIVE OUTPATIENT
TREATMENT, I WAS SURPRISED I
DIDN'T KNOW MORE ABOUT PURE
ORIENTED RECOVERY. WITHOUT PEER
SUPPORT. I DON'T KNOW IF I WOULD
BE HERE TODAY. THE IMPACT WAS SO
PROFOUNDLY POSITIVE. I FOLLOWED
UP WITH TRAINING TO BECOME A
PEER SUPPORT SPECIALIST MYSELF.
STIGMA RUNS DEEP IN THE MENTAL
HEALTH PROFESSION, BUT THE MHS
S¼ MADE IT POSSIBLE FOR ME TO
GIVE BACK WITH A MEANINGFUL AND
PURPOSEFUL CAREER IN MENTAL
HEALTH WITHOUT FEELING
STIGMATIZED. WE NEED PAIR
PROGRAMS, BUT THEY COULD LOSE
FUNDING UNDER THIS BILL. IT'S
WAY OVERDUE FOR THE
ADMINISTRATION TO CONSULT AND
COLLABORATE WITH AND HEAR THE
PURE COMMUNITY. I WAS ENCOURAGED
TO HEAR. THE ADMINISTRATION DID
MEET WITH A GROUP OF PEERS LAST
WEEK, AND I DO HOPE THAT THE
AMENDMENTS SUGGESTED BY PEERS,
ESPECIALLY RELATED TO PEER
ORIENTED RECOVERY ARE ADDED TO
THIS BILL. WE ARE THE VERY
COMMUNITY THAT THESE CHANGES ARE
PURPORTED TO TARGET AND HELP.
PIERS HAVE DEVELOPED A STRONG
MISTRUST OF THIS ADMINISTRATION
BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T BEEN BROUGHT
TO THE TABLE TO SHAPE POLICY.
AND ITS CURRENT FORM. THIS BILL
WILL CAUSE PEOPLE LIKE ME TO
LOSE A LIFE CHANGING LIFE SAVING
OPPORTUNITIES OF TRUE EMPOWERING
RECOVERY SERVICES. GOING FORWARD
WITH THESE PROPOSED CHANGES WILL
SET US BACK DECADES ON HOW WE
TREAT PEOPLE WITH MENTAL HEALTH
AND BEHAVIORAL HEALTH
CHALLENGES. IT TOOK AFTER A
DECADE IT TOOK OVER A DECADE OF
ADVOCACY EFFORTS AND COMMUNITY
ORGANIZING TO PASS PROP 63, AND
IT SHOULD NOT BE DISMANTLED
UNDER THE GUISE OF MODERNIZATION
IN A MATTER OF MONTHS. I
STRONGLY OPPOSE SB 3 TO 6. THANK
YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY. WE WILL
NOW HEAR FROM OTHER FOLKS IN THE
ROOM WHO WISHED TO EXPRESS
OPPOSITION, PLEASE NAME
ORGANIZATION AND POSITION. SUSAN
GALLAGHER, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR,
CAL VOICES NOBODY'S TALKING
ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE BEING
DE PRIORITIZED. THANK YOU. IN
OPPOSITION IF I DIDN'T SAY THAT
. NOR ATLANTA ON BEHALF OF
CHILDREN. NOW WE'RE IN AN
OPPOSING LESS AMENDED POSITION.
KIM LEWIS OF THE CALIFORNIA
COALITION FOR YOU. ALSO IN A
REGRETFUL OPPOSITIONAL IS
AMENDED POSITION. HI THERE.
RACHEL BOG. WHAT WITH BLUE
CALIFORNIA ACTION. RESPECTFULLY
OPPOSING THIS, BILL. THANK YOU,
NICOLE WARDIMAN ON BEHALF OF THE
ORANGE COUNTY BOARD OF
SUPERVISORS, WITH THE CONCERNS
POSITION AND ON BEHALF OF THE
CHILDREN'S PARTNERSHIP WITH THE
SUPPORT OF AMENDED POSITION.
ENJOY RIVERA ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA PAN ETHNIC HEALTH
NETWORK, AND OPPOSING LESSON
MEANT POSITION. IS HE SWIMMING
ON BEHALF OF CURRENT NEVADA
SOLANO COUNTY BOARD OF
SUPERVISORS WITH POSITION OF
CONCERNS AND IN TERMS OF FRESNO
COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS
OPPOSED UNLESS AMENDED POSITION.
THANK YOU. PAUL SIMMONS WITH THE
DEPRESSION AND BIPOLAR SUPPORT
ALLIANCE OF CALIFORNIA AND
STRONG OPPOSITION. JEB BROTH
WITH DISABILITY RIGHTS,
CALIFORNIA IN OPPOSITION. WE DID
MEET WITH THE ADMINISTRATION
LAST WEEK. WE LOOK FORWARD TO
FURTHER CONVERSATIONS ABOUT
AMENDMENTS. THANK YOU. 20 YEARS
, TWEENERS OR OKAY, WE'LL DO
TWEENERS NOW. GOOD AFTERNOON,
MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS JULIAN
AGUIRRE WITH THE CALIFORNIA
STATE ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES
SACK, AND SEVERAL OF OUR COUNTY
PARTNERS HAVE SUBMITTED A LETTER
OUTLINING THE AMENDMENTS THAT
COUNTIES ARE STILL SEEKING TO
ADDRESS TO ADDRESS OUR CONCERNS
WITH LOTS OF FUNDING TO CORE
SERVICES TO ADDRESS ALL ATTILA T
AS WELL AS TO, UM SECURE SOME
NECESSARY FISCAL PROTECTIONS FOR
COUNTIES. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK
THE ENGAGEMENT TO DATE OF THE
ADMINISTRATION AND COMMITTEE
SPECIFIC TO YOUR COMMITTEE. WE
ARE SEEKING SOME MORE
FLEXIBILITY IN THE HOUSING
INTERVENTIONS, BUCKET AND
SPECIFICALLY SOME AMENDMENTS TO
EXPAND THE ELDER ELIGIBLE USES
OF THE FUNDS, UM, TO INCLUDE
HOUSING SUPPORT AND ON SITE
SERVICES THAT WE THINK ARE
DESPERATELY NEEDED FOR THIS
GROUP. THANK YOU. SYRIA TICKET
ON BEHALF OF THE RURAL COUNTY
REPRESENTATIVES OF CALIFORNIA
WITH THE POSITION OF CONCERNS,
ECHOING COMMENTS SOC SEC HMM.
CHRISLEY ON BEHALF OF THE URBAN
COUNTIES OF CALIFORNIA, ALSO
ECHOING CSX CONCERNS. GOOD
AFTERNOON, LISA GARDNER WITH A
COUNTY BEHAVIORAL HEALTH
DIRECTORS ASSOCIATION. WE ALIGN
OUR COMMENTS WITH THOSE OF C SAC
AND A HAVE A POSITION OF
CONCERNS. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS
PATRICIA WENZEL. AND THE PERSON
OUT. I'M JUST HERE REPRESENTING
MYSELF. ALTHOUGH I AM AN
APPOINTED MEMBER OF THE
SACRAMENTO COUNTY MENTAL HEALTH
BOARD, BUT I'M SPEAKING ONLY FOR
MYSELF. I ECHO THIS. HE SACKED
CONCERNS AND SACRAMENTO COUNTY.
THE NEED FOR FLEXIBILITY IN THE
HOUSING BUCKET IS SIGNIFICANT
AND WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO
EFFECTIVELY USE THOSE HOUSING
DOLLARS GIVEN THE WAY THE BILL
IS STRUCTURED. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. WE WILL BRING IT BACK TO
COMMITTEE FOR QUESTIONS. AND
MADAM MADAM CHAIR IF I IF I
COULD JUST JUST SAY THERE'S A
LOT OF TALK ABOUT TWO WERE TAKEN
OUT PEER SUPPORT. THERE WERE NOT
TAKING OUT YOUR SUPPORT, RIGHT?
I MEAN EVERY FUNDING STREAM THAT
WE HAVE SENT DOWN HAS MONEY FOR
PEER SUPPORT. THIS SIMPLY SAYS
IT'S NOT MANDATED IN THE SAME
KIND OF WAYS AND AGAIN JUST TO
REMIND MEMBERS THAT THE PLANNING
IS STILL DONE ON THE LOCAL
LEVEL, RIGHT, AND PEOPLE HAVE
INPUTS INTO THEIR OWN COUNTIES
ABOUT WHAT SERVICES WILL BE
PROVIDED JUST TO SAY THAT THANK
YOU. WE'LL GO TO MS QUIRK-SILVA.
AND THEN MR WARD. THANK YOU,
SENATOR FOR BRINGING THIS
FORWARD. UM. YOU AS AN AUTHOR
BRINGS A LOT OF RESPECT. AS I
KNOW THIS HAS BEEN YOUR LIFE
WORK. I DO HAVE QUESTIONS,
PARTICULARLY ABOUT THE HOUSING
PART THE 30% AS YOU KNOW, I'M A
STRONG ADVOCATE FOR HOUSING. MY
CONCERNS ARE TWO OR THREE THINGS
. SO IF YOU COULD JUST ADDRESS
THEM, UM IT'S BEEN MENTIONED
THAT SOME OF THIS MONEY COULD BE
USED FOR ADDITIONAL HOME KEY
TYPE OF STYLE HOUSING. AH AND,
UH I GUESS MY BIG QUESTION IS
I'LL JUST TAKE WORK. WE ONLY HAD
FOUR APPLICANTS OUT OF 34 CITIES
TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT
PROGRAM. SO HOW DO WE ENSURE
WITH TAKING 30% NOW USING THIS
FROM THE CURRENT BUDGET THAT WE
CAN EVEN CROSS THAT FINISH LINE
WHEN WE KNOW WHAT WE'VE ALL
ENDURED OF JUST HOUSING
PRODUCTION AS A WHOLE? AND THEN
WHEN YOU KIND OF PUT THIS
ELEMENT ON IT, SO THAT WORD
DON'T GO BACK TO KIND OF THE
INSTITUTIONAL TYPE OF HOUSING,
BUT WE CAN CLEARLY CONTINUE TO
BUILD OR OR OR CREATE CREATIVE
MODELS OF HOUSING FOR THIS
POPULATION. SO IF YOU CAN JUST
ADDRESS THE NIMBY IN IS, UM AND
THEN WAS MENTIONED JUST HERE
TODAY. WHICH IS THIS REGIONAL
HOUSING THAT WE'RE STILL HAVE
FIGHTS EVEN ABOUT THAT, WHERE WE
HAVE SOME CITIES WHO STRIVE TO
GET TO THEIR GOAL AND OTHERS WHO
JUST DISDAIN IT AND WON'T EVEN
WORK TOWARDS UM THAT SPIRIT. SO
IN ESSENCE, THE BIG QUESTION IS
YEAH, EVEN IF WE ARE SET ASIDE
IN THESE THIS TYPE OF 30%
FUNDING WHAT IS YOUR VISION ON
HOW WE CAN ACTUALLY ATTAINED
THAT? YEAH. THANK YOU, UH,
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S THANK YOU FOR
YOUR LONGTIME SUPPORT OF ON THIS
ISSUE. I KNOW IT'S A IT'S VERY
DEAR TO YOU. UM I DON'T HAVE THE
MAGIC ANSWERS. I MEAN, WE ALL
HAVE TO COME UP WITH THOSE MAGIC
ANSWERS ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO
GET ALL THIS HOUSING BUILT. I'LL
SAY THE BOND, SO I'LL SAY THE
BOND. PART OF THIS DOES NOT
ALREADY GOES ON THE BALLOT NEXT
YEAR. AND SO THE TIME THAT MONEY
GETS ALLOCATED, WE'RE GOING TO
PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST AT
LEAST A YEAR OUT. PROBABLY TWO.
AND THAT GIVES I THINK COUNTIES
TIME TO PLAN AND THE STATE TIME
TO HELP WITH THAT, BECAUSE
THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE'RE SAYING
IS A COUNTY SHOULDN'T HAVE TO DO
IT ALL. AND THEN US GET ANGRY
BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT DOING IT
RIGHT. WE SHOULD TAKE A LARGER
PLANNING ROLE IN SETTING THOSE
PRIORITIES AND HELPING I DON'T
HAVE THE MAGIC BALL ABOUT HOW
WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE IT'S
EQUITABLE ACROSS ALL REGIONS,
BUT I KNOW THIS GOVERNOR AND
THIS ADMINISTRATION AND THIS
LEGISLATURE IS VERY KEY ON
REALLY FINDING CREATIVE WAYS TO
MAKE SURE THAT HOUSING IS BUILT.
I THINK THESE NEW COLLEGES AND
VILLAGES STYLES WILL BE
DIFFERENT THAN TRYING TO REDO A
HOTEL. YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THERE'S
ALWAYS A LOT I HAD IN MY OWN
COMMUNITY, RIGHT. LET IT PUSH
BACK ON THOSE UM, BUT I THINK
THESE BECAUSE I ENVISION A LOT
OF THESE LIKE AROUND OUR OUR
OWN. COUNTY HOSPITAL THAT
THERE'S A LOT OF SPACE OUT THERE
, RIGHT A LOT OF SERVICES OUT
THERE, SO I WOULD ENVISION THEM
ALREADY BEING BUILT AROUND
PLACES THAT HAVE CAPACITY.
THAT'S THAT'S IN MY THOUGHT. I
THINK I'D ASK THE HOUSING PERSON
TO HOW BETTER TO ANSWER THAT.
BUT I HEAR YOU THAT'S GOING TO
BE ONGOING WORK FOR ALL OF US,
AND THE BOND PART WILL BE FOR
THAT CONSTRUCTION. THIS WOULD
JUST BE FOR THE ONGOING
OPERATIONS AND CARE. THANK YOU
AND REMEMBER, THINK YOU REALLY
HIT ON THE CRUX OF WHAT? WE HOPE
THIS PROPOSAL CAN ACHIEVE SO TO
YOUR POINT. CONSISTENT THEME
THAT WE'VE SEEN THROUGH HUNKY
EVEN WITH ITS SUCCESS LAST
SEVERAL YEARS, RECORD AMOUNT OF
UNITS PROVIDED LONG TERM 55
YEARS COVENANTS THAT WE HAVE FOR
THESE PROPERTIES. ONE OF THE
CHALLENGES WE'VE WITNESSED
CONSISTENTLY IS THE LEVEL OF
ONGOING OPERATING SUPPORTS THAT
WOULD BE NECESSARY FOR THIS DEEP
LEVEL OF AFFORDABILITY WE'RE
SEEING, REALLY IS THE CRITICAL
LIMITING FACTOR OFTEN. SO WHEN
WE'RE LOOKING AT A LOT OF THE
EFFORTS THAT LEGISLATURES
COMMITTED TO WITH STREAMLINING
AND ULTIMATELY, THE LEVEL OF
CAPITAL DOLLARS WE'RE PUTTING
OUT THERE THAT IS ALWAYS REALLY
, UH, LIMITED BY THE FACT OF HOW
MUCH RESOURCES WE CAN FOR THE
ONGOING SUPPORTS NECESSARY SO
THESE DOLLARS THAT WOULD BE MADE
AVAILABLE ULTIMATELY ARE
AUGMENTING OUR APPROACH THAT
WE'VE SEEN SUCCESSFULLY WITH
HOME KEY WITH HONKY, FOR EXAMPLE
, WE PROVIDE AN INITIAL THREE
YEARS OF OPERATING SUBSIDY, BUT
THE SAME TIME ALL OF OUR
COMPETITIVE DOLLARS. WE
UNDERWRITE TO LOOK AT WHAT
JURISDICTION CAN PROVIDE ONGOING
SUPPORT. WE WANT TO INCENTIVIZE
THAT, SO THERE'S VERY FUTURES
HERE. BRAIDING THE SUPPORTIVE
SERVICES AND THE LEVEL OF
HOUSING INVESTMENTS THIS
LEGISLATURE THROUGH THE BUDGET
AND ADMINISTRATION OF REALLY
PRIORITIZED REALLY PROVIDES THAT
SOLUTION THAT WE HOPE TO REALLY
SCALE IN THE COMING YEARS WITH
THIS PROPOSAL. MR WARD. THANK
YOU. I'M GONNA GO AS WELL, MY,
UM, FAITH THAT THIS AUTHOR HAS
HAD FOR SEVERAL YEARS WORKING ON
BETTER APPROACHES WHEN IT COMES
TO MENTAL HEALTH AND BEHAVIORAL
SOLUTIONS. THAT GIVES ME A LOT
OF COMFORT IN ADDRESSING SOME OF
THE LOCAL CONCERNS I'VE HEARD,
AND I JUST WANTED TO ARTICULATE
THOSE TWO AND SEE IF THERE ARE
SOME RESPONSE FROM U. N
ADMINISTRATION. UM, THE CONCERN
THAT WE MIGHT BE REDISTRIBUTING
EXISTING FUNDS THAT ARE GOING TO
CERTAIN FUNCTIONS AND SERVICES
RIGHT WHETHER IT'S OUTPATIENT
CARE, CRISIS CARE, PEER SUPPORT
OTHER, UM, ACTIVITIES THAT ARE
REACHING PEOPLE RIGHT NOW. AND
I'M WONDERING, YOU KNOW HOW WELL
I GUESS THIS DEPENDS ON HOW WELL
WE'RE TRACKING THOSE OUTCOMES AT
THE STATEWIDE LEVEL. DO WE KNOW
HOW MANY HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS
RIGHT CLIENTS ARE SUPPORTED
THROUGH ALL OF THAT? AND THEN
THAT SHIFT DOWN GOES NOW TO BE
ABLE TO PROVIDE MORE OF AN
EMPHASIS TOWARDS HOUSING
SOLUTIONS, WHICH WE NEED, AND I
THINK I WOULD ALSO ARGUE ARE A
GREATER IMPORTANCE OF INVESTMENT
. BUT WHAT IS WHAT MIGHT THAT
COMMENT AS TO WHAT EXPENSE RIGHT
AND IF THESE SERVICES AND THESE
OUTCOMES HERE ARE NOW AT RISK?
WHAT'S THAT? WHAT'S THAT TRADE
OFF THERE? RIGHT I WAS HOPEFUL
THAT GENERALLY WE THINK ABOUT
SOLUTIONS THAT ARE GOING TO GROW
THE PIE RIGHT? SO THAT WAS
ADDING VALUE OVER HERE. WE'RE
NOT ROBBING PETER TO PAY PAUL
AND WE'RE SUSTAINING THE LEVEL
OF SERVICE THAT IS NEEDED ON AN
ONGOING BASIS, AND I WONDERED IF
YOU CAN KIND OF TALK ABOUT THAT.
THAT CAREFUL, BALANCING
HOPEFULLY THROUGH EVIDENCE BASED
OUTCOMES AND MONITORING. SO THAT
WE'RE NOT. WE'RE NOT UNDULY
SHIFTING SOMETHING THAT'S GOING
TO CAUSE A PROBLEM AND ALL I
MEAN, I'LL ADDRESS THAT THE IT'S
FROM THE TRY TO ADJUST IT FROM
THE HOUSING PERSPECTIVE SINCE
I'M WEARING HOUSING COMMITTEE,
BUT I KNOW YOUR QUESTION IS MORE
MORE BROAD THAN THAT. AND I
THINK I THINK WHAT HAS HAPPENED
IN THE LAST FEW YEARS. SO WHAT?
WHEN THE MAKES YOU SAVE MONEY
FIRST CAME DOWN RIGHT? IT WAS
THE BIGGEST EASIEST PART FOR
COUNTIES TO BE ABLE TO USE AND
KIND OF A NEW INFLUX OF MONEY
RIGHT BEFORE ITS SERVICES HAD
BEEN PREPAID FOR KIND OF AS THEY
GO AND FROM STATE FUNDED, SO
THIS WAS LIKE A WHOLE NEW RIGHT.
SO PEOPLE LIKE OBI INNOVATIVE,
DO THIS DO THAT? BUT WHAT WE
DIDN'T DO AT THAT TIME AGAIN,
WHICH IS BETTER. WE KNOW BETTER
NOW IS RIGHT. WE DIDN'T KIND OF
BRING SOME OF THAT UP TO THE
STATE TO REALLY DEVELOP. UM AND
PEOPLE DON'T LIKE YOU TO SAY
RIGHT THAT THE THINGS THAT WE
ACTUALLY KNOW THAT REALLY WORK
THAT ARE EVIDENCE BASED, EVEN IF
THAT'S CLINICALLY EVIDENCE BASED
OR IF THAT'S COMMUNITY EVIDENCE
BASED. THERE'S A LOT OF WAYS, UH
, TO THINK ABOUT INNOVATION,
RIGHT? A LOT OF MONEY. WE PUT
TOWARDS INNOVATION AND UM, BUT
SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE KNOW
NOW CAN BE RIGHT BROUGHT
GLOBALIZED TO A LARGER COMMUNITY
LIKE, SAY, LET'S LET'S JUST SAY,
FOR EXAMPLE, SANDY GO COUNTIES
DOING FANTASTIC JOB. BUT
SISKIYOU COUNTY NOT SO MUCH
RIGHT. THERE ARE SMALLER COUNTY
LESS RESOURCES. AND RIGHT
CURRENTLY, WE DON'T HAVE A
SYSTEM IN WHICH WE KNOW THIS IS
WORKING REALLY WELL HERE.
PERHAPS WE CAN TAKE THESE
MODELS. WE DON'T HAVE TO HIRE
EXPERTS. WE ALREADY HAVE THOSE,
SO THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT. IS A STATE TAKEN
A LARGER LEADERSHIP ROLE IN
BEING ABLE TO SAY HERE ARE
THINGS THAT COULD WORK WITH THIS
POPULATION. THIS POPULATION THIS
POPULATION THERE ALREADY MORE
STANDARDIZED TO TRY TO MAKE
THINGS MORE STREAMLINED AND
DIRECT AND REALLY COUNT THE
MONEY. ALSO WHAT WITH THE
DIRECTOR TALKED ABOUT IS BEFORE
WE WERE JUST LOOKING AT
BEHAVIORAL HEALTH MHS A DOLLARS
AND NOT ALL THE OTHER DOLLARS
THAT ARE GOING INTO IT WAS VERY
HARD TO SEE HOW SUCCESSFUL ARE
WE BEING NOW WITH WITH OUR
ADVISORY COMMITTEE? WE'RE GOING
TO HAVE A LOOK AT ALL OF THAT TO
BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY TRACK THAT.
AND AGAIN, ANOTHER THING THAT'S
CHANGED. HISTORICALLY NONE OF
THE SERVICES THAT ARE CURRENTLY
PAID FOR AN ESSAY. WERE PAID FOR
BY ANY OTHER MEANS. NOW THERE
ARE A LOT MORE WAYS TO PAY FOR
THOSE SERVICES AGAIN. PEOPLE
BEFORE COULDN'T GO TO COUNSELING
IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE HEALTH CARE.
ALMOST OVER 80% LIKE I THINK
IT'S ONLY 8% WHO DON'T HAVE SOME
KIND OF HEALTH CARE THE WORK WE
DID AROUND SCHOOLS TO BE ABLE TO
HAVE SCHOOLS HAVE THERAPISTS
COME IN AND BUILD FOR IT THAT
WAY. UM THE CAL AIM PROGRAM. WE
DEVELOPED THE YOUTH AND CHILD
BEHAVIORAL HEALTH THAT WE STOOD
UP A LOT OF NEW RESOURCES THAT
HAVE COME DOWN. AND ALSO TO BE
ABLE TO NOW THAT CMS HAS
PROVIDED A LOT MORE GUIDELINES.
CALIFORNIA'S BEEN ABLE TO APPLY
FOR EVERY WAIVER THAT COMES SO
WE CAN PULL FEDERAL DOLLARS DOWN
TO SUPPLEMENT OUR STATE DOLLARS
AND MAKE THE SAME MONEY RIGHT
NOW. IT'S JUST IT'S JUST STATE
MONEY WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO FOR
THE SERVICES AND THAT WAS WHAT
WE SAID TO EVERYBODY WHO SAYS
OUR STUFF IS GOING TO GET CUT.
TELL US WHAT YOUR STUFF IS,
BECAUSE THERE COULD BE ANOTHER
WAY THAT WE CAN BUILD FOR THAT.
WE'RE NOT SAYING THINGS SHOULD
GO AWAY. WE'RE SAYING WE SHOULD
RE PRIORITIZE. WHAT'S THE BEST
YOU USE. OF THE GREATER TAXPAYER
DOLLARS AT THIS POINT. AND AS
FAR AS THE POT. UM YOU KNOW, I'M
I'M A GOOD DEMOCRAT. I DON'T
MIND MAKING IT POP BIGGER, BUT
WE'RE NOT IN THAT SITUATION
RIGHT NOW. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO
WORK WITH THE POT THAT WE HAVE.
BUT WE DO KNOW THAT DURING THE
LAST FEW YEARS THAT HAS BEEN A
LOT OF HARD ON A LOT OF
CALIFORNIANS. VERY WEALTHY
CALIFORNIANS HAVE DONE
EXCEPTIONALLY WELL RIGHT, SO IT
USED TO BE JUST GOT A COUPLE
MILLION DOLLARS THAT'S GOING
INTO BHS SAY. NOW IT'S BILLIONS
THAT GOES IN EVERY SINGLE YEAR
THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE A
LOT MORE SUCCESSES TO SHOW FOR
THAT. AND I THINK THIS KIND OF
MARSHALING OF ALL OF OUR
RESOURCES AND PUTTING ALL HEADS
TOGETHER, MAKING OUTCOMES MUCH
MORE TRANSPARENT THAT ANYBODY
WILL BE ABLE TO GO ON AND SEE.
STILL LEAVING DECISIONS AT THE
COUNTY LEVEL, BUT THEM BEING
MORE MORE HELP. FACILITATING
FROM THE STATE LEVEL WITH MORE
CONSEQUENCES OF IF PEOPLE ARE
OUT OUTSIDE OF THE LINE, SO WE
THINK THIS IS A MODERNIZATION. I
KNOW IT'S HARD. I KNOW. SOME OF
THE GROUPS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT
THEIR FUNDING AGAIN. WE DON'T WE
DON'T THINK THINGS ARE NECESSARY
NEED TO GO AWAY BUT BE PAID FOR
IN A DIFFERENT TYPE OF WAY. UM
LIKE THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S MY
ANSWER TO YOU. IS THAT HELPFUL,
VERY HELPFUL AND VERY
ENCOURAGING ABOUT THE
THOUGHTFULNESS THAT IS GOING
THROUGH THAT I PARTICULARLY LIKE
THAT THERE COULD BE IF THERE IS
AS IF IT HAS IS IMPLEMENTED. UM
MORE INTENTIONAL WORK TO BE ABLE
TO WORK WITH SOME OF THESE LOCAL
ORGANIZATIONS TO HELP THEM WITH
GRANT ASSISTANCE AND SUPPORT
THAT THEY WOULD NEED TO BE ABLE
TO FIND OTHER RESOURCES. I LIKE
THE COMMISSION ASPECT HERE THAT
WOULD BE ABLE TO BE CHARGED WITH
DOING A LOT OF THIS WORK, TOO.
AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT AS
THINGS WOULD BE, UM,
IMPLEMENTING RIGHT THAT THERE'S
MORE FLEXIBILITY AT THE FRONT
END RIGHT NOW AND SO TO SEE
SACKS POINTS AND SOME OF THE
THINGS THAT COUNTIES LET'S MAKE
SURE THAT FLEXIBILITY IS BUILT
IN THAT CAN MAYBE UH, UM UH,
CHANGE OVER TIME TOWARDS A MORE
PERFECT RATIO, RIGHT AND MORE
DEFINED, BUT THE CHANGE PROGRAMS
. SO UM, SO DRASTICALLY JUST IN
YEAR ONE AND BE SO ABRUPT ABOUT
IT, RIGHT, YOU KNOW, MIGHT CAUSE
SOME IMPLEMENTATION, HICCUPS AND
RESULT IS UM, CALIFORNIANS RIGHT
THAT ARE LEFT WITHOUT THE
SUPPORT THAT THEY NEED AND
SUFFERING WHILE WE'RE BUILDING
ALL THAT UP, BUT I DO APPRECIATE
THAT. WE NEED TO DO MORE IN
HOUSING SOLUTIONS, AND I KNOW
THAT THIS CAN GET US TOWARDS
THAT. AND BY GROWING THE PIE,
THOUGH YOU KNOW THEY'RE THE BOND
, WHICH IS THROUGH PROPOSED
THROUGH A DIFFERENT BILL OVER
THERE. AT ONE POINT, THESE WERE
LINKED AND THEY'RE TODAY NOT
LINKED. IS THAT CORRECT? THEY'RE
NOT GOING TO THIS BILL IS NOT
CONDITIONAL ON THE PASSAGE OF
THE BOND THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY
AND SO THAT THE BALLOT THOUGH
PASSAGE OF THE WHOLE OF THE
BALLOT, RIGHT? AND SO WHAT WAS
THE THAT WOULD HAVE HELPED TO
GROW THREE SOURCES RIGHT TO
ENSURE EFFECTIVE IMPLEMENTATION
OF THESE CHANGES UNDER THIS
BILL? WHY? WHY, UM WHY? WHY DID
YOU DECIDE TO GO AHEAD AND SEVER
THAT? WELL, THEY'RE THEY'RE
ATTACHED IN THE SAME BALLOT
INITIATIVE. RIGHT BUT ONE IS NOT
CONDITIONAL ON THE OTHER OR THEY
ARE. I THOUGHT THE AMENDMENTS
FROM AUGUST 15TH REMOVED THE, UM
UH, REMOVE THE CONTINGENCY. YEAH
WELL, I MEAN, OUR OUR
UNDERSTANDING IS IT'S ONE BALLOT
MEASURE. IT'S THEY THERE WAS
SOME TALK ABOUT MAKING THE SAME
BILL MAKING IT TWO BILLS. BUT MY
UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IS ONE
BALLOT MEASURE UNLESS THE
ADMINISTRATION TELLS ME WE CAN
GET MORE CLARIFICATION,
MONITORING THIS AND I'LL BE VERY
HAPPY TO SUPPORT THIS TODAY. UM
AND OBVIOUSLY WANT TO GET THIS,
RIGHT. YEAH I KNOW THAT THAT
YOU'RE THE RIGHT AUTHOR TO BE
ABLE TO HELP US GET THERE. THANK
YOU, TERRY. TAKE IT ON AFTER I
LEAVE. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY
ARE LINKED. YEAH YEAH, I BELIEVE
SO PART OF THE SAME PART OF WHAT
MR PATTERSON AND THEN MR
CALDERON. GREAT THANK YOU SO
MUCH, UM, JUST WANTED TO. UH,
WELL, UH, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY,
THERE'S A LONG HEARING ON THIS A
LONG DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS JUST
A COMMENT I WANTED TO MAKE AND
HAVE REFERENCES IN THIS
COMMITTEE BEFORE. UM FIRST OF
ALL, I WANT TO SAY THAT I THINK
PEOPLE WITH SUBSTANCE USE
DISORDER, YOU DESERVE A CHANCE
TO BE SUCCESSFUL AND GET OUT OF
, YOU KNOW THE SITUATION THAT
THEY'RE IN. OBVIOUSLY. I DO HAVE
CONCERNS GENERALLY WITH HOUSING
FIRST POLICIES AND ALSO I'LL SAY
WHY, UM THERE'S A SHELTER
LOCALLY. ACTUALLY THAT HAS HAD A
LOT OF SUCCESS. UH GETTING WOMEN
AND CHILDREN INTO PERMANENT
HOUSING 96. THIS PARTICULAR
PLACE. TENS OF THOUSANDS OF
WOMEN HAVE BEEN HELPED 96% OF
THEM HAVE RECEIVED. GOD WHO HAVE
GOTTEN ON THE JOB TRAINING HAVE
GONE ON TO, UH, TO GET NON
SUBSIDIZED EMPLOYMENT AFTERWARDS
IN 75% OF THE WOMEN WHO AND
CHILDREN WHO HAVE GONE THROUGH
THEIR PROGRAM HAVE, UM HAVE
FOUND STABLE AND PERMANENT
HOUSING AFTER AND SO IT'S JUST
GENERALLY SPEAKING. WE SHOULD BE
PROMOTING ALSO, SITUATIONS LIKE
THAT. THEY DON'T ALLOW FOR
EXAMPLE SUBSTANCES AND BECAUSE
THEY HAVE CHILDREN WITHIN THEIR
HOME WITHIN THEIR SHELTER, AND
SIGNIFICANT ACTUALLY, ABOUT HALF
OF THEM ARE CHILDREN. AND SO I
UNDERSTAND WHY THEY WOULD WANT
TO NOT HAVE SUBSTANCES ON THEIR
PROPERTY. AND SO CONCERNS ME
THAT WE CAN'T HELP SOMEBODY LIKE
THAT. WITH VARIOUS FUNDING
SOURCES, AND ESPECIALLY WITH A
PROVEN SUCCESSFUL TRACK RECORD.
IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM HERE AND,
YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, I KNOW THAT
YOU WOULDN'T WANT TO EXCLUDE.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU WOULDN'T
WANT TO EXCLUDE, YOU KNOW,
HELPING A GREAT PROGRAM LIKE
THAT, BUT, UH, JUST THAT'S WHAT
CONCERNS ME GENERALLY WITH THE
HOUSING FIRST CONCEPT, AND I
KNOW IT'S WELL INTENTIONED. BUT
I'D ALSO LIKE TO SEE PROGRAMS
WITH PROVEN TRACK RECORD OF
SUCCESS, YOU KNOW, MOVE FORWARD
, BUT I APPRECIATE YOUR
LEADERSHIP ON THIS ISSUE AND YOU
KNOW A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS.
OBVIOUSLY I'M SURE WILL OCCUR IN
THE NEXT FEW WEEKS. SO THANK
YOU. MR CHOLERA. THANK YOU,
MADAM CHAIR AND THANK YOU,
SENATOR FOR YOUR CONTINUED
DILIGENCE ON THIS IMPORTANT
ISSUE. I AGREE WITH THE
SENTIMENT SENTIMENTS OF OTHER
COLLEAGUES THAT YOU'VE
DEFINITELY TAKEN ON THIS MOST
CHALLENGING ISSUE AND PUT YOUR
HEART AND SOUL INTO IT AS WELL
AS YOUR EXPERTISE, AND I THINK
WE ALL APPRECIATE THAT AND INTO
THE CHAIR'S POINT. I THINK MY
UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT WOULD
BE ON THE SAME BALLOT WITH THE
WITH THE BOND SP 5 31 WITH THE
BOND INITIATIVE AT ALL GO ON ONE
BALANCE. THERE'S LIKE A FUNDING
PIECE, ALONG WITH IT IN THE
VOTERS CAN KIND OF SEE A
COMPREHENSIVE PICTURE AS WELL AS
I DO APPRECIATE THE AMENDMENTS
TAKEN REGARDING THE HOUSING
FIRST, UM, PHILOSOPHY, WHICH I
THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT. I
THINK THAT AGAIN. THE ISSUE THAT
I THINK THAT THAT ARISES IN
CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS JUST A
COMPETING INTEREST ASPECT,
RIGHT? WHETHER IT'S THE HOUSING
DOLLARS THE SERVICES DOLLARS AND
I THINK THAT A LOT OF THE
CONCERNS RAISED FROM COUNTIES UM
, IT IS A LOT OF THE UNKNOWNS
AND I THINK PART OF IT AND I'M I
AM GLAD TO HEAR. I KNOW IT'S YOU
KNOW, I THINK A LOT OF FOLKS
MYSELF INCLUDED. PROBABLY WOULD
HAVE APPRECIATED THE SOONER BUT
I'M GLAD YOU'RE THE
ADMINISTRATION IS STARTING TO
HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS I THINK
WAS DONE. THERE WERE LONG MONTHS
LONG CONVERSATION. BRINGING IN
STAKEHOLDERS BRINGING IN
PROVIDERS, UM, WHICH HASN'T
NECESSARILY HAPPENED FROM THE
ADMINISTRATION STANDPOINT, SO I
THINK IN THIS CASE, IT IS BETTER
LATE THAN NEVER IN THAT. AT
LEAST THOSE CONVERSATIONS SEEM
TO BE HAPPENING. I DO SHARE
CONCERNS EXPRESSED BY SOME OF
THE COUNTIES AND DISABILITY
RIGHTS ORGANIZATIONS. THAT'S
WHERE RIGHTS CALIFORNIA AS WELL
AS SOME OF THE OTHER
ORGANIZATIONS. UM BUT I DO HOPE
THAT THAT YOU KNOW, IN THE.
FINAL DAYS, BUT JUST SOMETIMES
HOW IT HAPPENS, THERE COULD BE
SOME UNDERSTANDING AND SOME
SENSE OF COMFORT, AS DO THE
CONCERNS THAT MANY SHARE
REGARDING THOSE PROGRAMS THAT
ARE WORKING, MAKING SURE THAT
WE'RE NOT DISRUPTING WHAT IS
WORKING. SO THE MASK KIND OF THE
CHALLENGES THAT YOU HAVE THIS
IT'S GREAT TO HAVE THE STATE
SUPPORT. WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THE
GROUND WITH THE COUNTY IS DOING
WHAT THE ORGANIZATION IS DOING.
BUT THERE'S ALSO A DOWNSIDE OF
THE STATE COMING AND SAID IF YOU
WANT YOU TO DO IT THIS WAY. UM I
DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S YOUR
INTENTION. BUT SOMETIMES THAT
HAPPENS WHETHER IT'S OUR
INTENTION OR NOT, AND SO
HOPEFULLY THIS CONTINUED
CONVERSATIONS GET GET THE
LANGUAGE TO EVEN MORE, UM, MAKE
IT EVEN MORE CLEAR ON HOW WE
WILL GO ABOUT PROTECTING THOSE
PROGRAMS AND THOSE MENTAL HEALTH
SERVICES THAT ARE WORKING. UM
AND THE HOUSING PROGRAMS AND
HOUSING SERVICES THAT ARE
WORKING. I KNOW THAT YOU CAN'T
NECESSARILY A BILL. DOESN'T
NECESSARILY ALLOW LEGISLATION
DOESN'T NECESSARILY FOR SHOULD
HAVE THAT. GREAT THAT GREAT
DEGREE OF SPECIFICITY IN IT, BUT
THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME OF THAT
FLEXIBILITY OR SOME SENSE THAT
THERE WILL BE A PROCESS IN
DETERMINING HOW THOSE THAT HAVE
LEGITIMATE CONCERNS ABOUT
PROGRAMS THAT ARE WORKING ON THE
GROUND. WHETHER IT'S HOUSING
SERVICES, WRAPAROUND SERVICES,
MENTAL HEALTH SERVICE SUBSTITUTE
SERVICES THAT THEY WON'T GET
DISRUPTED IN THEIR WORK, BECAUSE
I DON'T THINK ANYONE WANTS THAT,
UM IN SO I'LL ALTHOUGH I WAS
KIND OF COMING IN HERE THINKING
I WAS GONNA STAND ACTION OF VOTE
FOR IT AS A COURTESY TO ALLOW
THE CONVERSATIONS TO CONTINUE,
PARTICULARLY IN REGARDS TO NOW,
IT SEEMS LIKE THE ADMINISTRATION
IS TALKING TO SOME OF THOSE THAT
HAVE EXPRESSED CONCERNS OVER
SEVERAL MONTHS. UM AND SO, I
MEAN, I'M ENCOURAGED BY THAT,
AND WE'LL GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO
SEE HOW THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND
DISCUSSIONS GÒM. MR GABRIEL HAVE
EMOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND ANY
OTHER QUESTIONS. WOULD YOU LIKE
TO CLOSE? IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'VE
ALL HAD A LONG DAY AND I WOULD
ASK FOR YOUR I VOTE ON THIS
IMPORTANT PIECE OF LEGISLATION.
THANK YOU, SENATOR. UM REALLY
APPRECIATE YOUR LEADERSHIP IN
THIS SPACE FOR YEARS. YOU'VE
BEEN A TREMENDOUS LEADER FOR US.
UM AND OBVIOUSLY THE AIM OF THIS
BILL, AND A LOT OF THE WORK THAT
YOU DO IS TO REALLY HELP HELP
OUR MOST VULNERABLE FOLKS WHO
DESPERATELY NEED TO HELP. I
THINK THIS WAS THE POTENTIAL TO
HELP PEOPLE EXPERIENCING
HOMELESSNESS. AND GET ACCESS AND
MAINTAIN HOUSING, WHICH IS
OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING I CARE
DEEPLY ABOUT. I THINK THE LONG
TERM REALLY NEED TO THINK
THROUGH HOW WE'RE GOING TO FUND
SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. UM AND
ADEQUATE SERVICES AND THE
OPERATING FUNDS THAT GO WITH
THAT. I THINK WE HAVE TO REALIZE
THIS IS GOING TO BE A VERY LONG
TERM INVESTMENT OF PUBLIC. UH
FUNDS, WHICH I THINK IS CRITICAL
. UM WE KNOW THAT THE EXISTING
RESOURCES ARE NOT SUFFICIENT,
AND I KNOW THAT'S COME UP QUITE
A FEW TIMES. UM I FULLY SUPPORT
MORE FUNDING FOR HOUSING. HAVE A
$10 BILLION BOND. I'M TRYING TO
MOVE THROUGH. SO UM, UH, WE KNOW
THAT THE LACK OF AFFORD HOUSING
IS THE NUMBER ONE RECENT PEOPLE
FALL INTO HOMELESSNESS TO BEGIN
WITH, SO WE HAVE TO INCREASE THE
SUPPLY. SO WITH THAT I'M HAPPY
TO SUPPORT THE BILL TODAY. I
KNOW THERE'S STILL WORK TO BE
DONE ON IT, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE
SURE WE CONTINUE TO HAVE THOSE
CONVERSATIONS. AND WITH THAT WE
HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND AND
TAKE FOUR MOTION IS TO PASS AND
WE REFER TO THE COMEDIAN
APPROPRIATIONS WEEKS I WEEKS I
HARRISON KOREA. KOREA I GABRIEL
GABRIEL, I CHOLERA ALRIGHT,
QUIRK-SILVA. QUIRK-SILVA. AYE,
SANCHEZ. SANCHEZ, NOT BORING.
WARD WARD. AYE. THANK YOU, BOSS.
THAT BILL IS OUT 6 TO 0 AND WE
WILL ADJOURN.