THE JOINT LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE
ON CLIMATE CHANGE POLICIES WILL
COME TO ORDER. GOOD MORNING, THE
SENATE CONTINUES TO WELCOME THE
PUBLICANS PROVIDED ACCESS BOTH
IN PERSON AND TELECONFERENCE
PARTICIPATION FOR PUBLIC COMMENT
. LAY OUT SOME GROUND RULES FOR
THAT, IF YOU WISH TO PARTICIPATE
IN THIS PUBLIC COMMENT VIA
TELECONFERENCE SERVICE, THE TOLL
FREE NUMBER IS 87722681. AND THE
ACCESS CODE IS 1618051. WE HAVE
PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE END OF
TODAY'S INFORMATIONAL HEARING
FOR TODAY'S HEARING WILL BE
HEARING ALL THE PANELS OF THE
WITNESSES ON THE AGENDA PRIOR TO
TAKING THAT PUBLIC COMMENT, AND
THEN ONCE WE'VE HEARD ALL THE
WITNESSES WERE GOING PUBLIC
COMMENT PERIOD FOR THOSE WHO
WISH TO PARTICIPATE. SO WE HAVE
A ROBUST DISCUSSION AHEAD OF US
HERE THIS MORNING. WE'RE GONNA
GET STARTED. BUT I JUST WANT TO
SAY AT THE OUTSET. THIS
COMMITTEE'S MANDATE IS. TO LOOK
AHEAD ON CLIMATE CHANGE. THERE
ARE A LOT OF COMMITTEES OF
JURISDICTION IN THIS AREA. BUT
THE JOINT LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE
EMERGED OUT OF NEGOTIATIONS IN
THE PAST THAT THAT SAID, IT'S
ESSENTIALLY THE LEGISLATURE'S
JOB NOT TO JUST BE A PASSENGER
ON THIS ON THIS JOURNEY, BUT TO
REALLY DRIVE THE ISSUE, AND I AM
PROUD TO SAY THAT THIS IS THE
FIRST HEARING WILL BE HAVING IN
THE CALIFORNIA LEGISLATURE.
EXPLORING WHAT THE INFLATION
REDUCTION ACT CAN DO TO
SUPERCHARGE CALIFORNIA'S CLIMATE
CHANGE. MITIGATION EFFORTS IN
THE STATE. THERE HAVE BEEN SOME
CONCERNING REMARKS MADE IN
RECENT MONTHS ABOUT OUR ABILITY
TO MEET THOSE TARGETS THAT WE
SET OUT FOR OURSELVES IN 2030.
UM I DON'T SHARE THAT. UM I
DON'T SHARE THE ANXIETY PER SE,
BUT I THINK WE HAVE IMPORTANT
CHOICES HERE IN THE NEXT SEVEN
YEARS ON OUR PATHWAY TO OUR
STATEWIDE EMISSIONS GOALS THAT
CAN EITHER YIELD VERY JOBS.
RICH, UH, AND FORWARD LOOKING,
CAPITAL INTENSIVE PERIOD OF TIME
OR TIME OF BASICALLY ACCOUNTING
OUR WAY TO 2030. WHAT I WANT TO
SEE IS THAT WE BUILD HERE IN
CALIFORNIA. THERE ARE A LOT OF
DIFFERENT WAYS TO BUILD, AND
THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT
WAYS TO GO FORWARD. I THINK OUR
GOVERNOR IS OWED A DEBT OF
GRATITUDE FOR HIS LEADERSHIP ON
INSISTING ON BUILDING AND THE
HARD PARTS OF THAT WORK TO WHEN
IT COMES TO COORDINATING BETWEEN
GOVERNMENT AGENCIES. WHEN IT
COMES TO PERMITTING WHEN IT
COMES TO DEALING, EVEN WITH LAWS
THAT I'VE HELD DEAR OVER THE
YEARS AND DEFENDED WHETHER IT'S
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT OR
PROTECTIONS FOR SPECIES, ALL THE
VALUES THAT WE HOLD SHOULD BE
SQUARE A BLE WITH THIS PERIOD OF
RAPID GROWTH, BUT IT'S GOING TO
TAKE EFFORT. AND IT'S GOING TO
TAKE PARTNERSHIP AND I'VE YOU
THIS HEARING REALLY IS A IT'S
PART OVERSIGHT, BUT IT'S REALLY
ALSO PART PART EXPLORATORY WHEN
IT COMES TO THE PARTNERSHIPS
THAT WE SHOULD BE ENGAGING AND
YOU LOOK ACROSS THIS COUNTRY AND
HOW AMERICA'S BENEFITING FROM
THE I R A AND YOU REALLY SEE
PRIVATE SECTOR LEADERSHIP
DRIVING IT AND THERE'S
GOVERNMENT WORK AROUND IT, BUT
UNLESS WE LAY CONDITIONS HERE IN
THE STATE THAT PRIVATE CAPITAL
WANTS TO BRING THEIR DOLLARS
HERE, NOT JUST INNOVATE, BUT TO
GO BEYOND THAT INNOVATION INTO
ACTUALLY BUILDING UM, THAT WE'RE
GOING TO HAVE TO LEAD IN SOME
WAYS BY FOLLOWING AND IT'S A
DIFFERENT ROLE. IT'S NOT
NECESSARILY POLICY FIRST,
ALWAYS, BUT AH, THIS
ADMINISTRATION HAS SORT OF
UNDERSTOOD THAT THESIS AND PUT
SOME, I THINK NOTEWORTHY
PARTNERSHIPS COLLABORATIONS
TOGETHER THAT ARE WORTH
EXPLORING DEEPER TODAY, AND I
HOPE THAT WE CAN FIND PATHWAYS
TO CONTINUE THAT WORK WITH OUR
FEDERAL PARTNERS GOING FORWARD.
I WANT TO WIN THE IRA RACE IN
ORDER FOR US TO ACHIEVE OUR
CLIMATE GOALS FASTER. AND IN A
WAY THAT BENEFITS UM BOTH
FRONTLINE COMMUNITIES, ORGANIZED
LABOR AND OUR ECONOMY AS A
WHOLE. SO THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF
THIS HEARING TODAY, I WANT TO
TURN OVER MY ESTEEMED VICE CHAIR
, AND THEN WE'LL GET STARTED.
THANK YOU, SENATOR. STERN. WELL
PUT AND GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE
THRILLED TO BE PART OF WHAT'S
GOING TO BE A GREAT DISCUSSION
THIS MORNING. JUST A FEW OPENING
THOUGHTS, WHILE CALIFORNIA HAS
BEEN A TRAILBLAZER IN THE
CLIMATE SPACE, MANY OF OUR
EFFORTS ARE STIFLED AS WE KNOW
BY THE LACK OF RESOURCES AND
FINDING THE FUNDING AVAILABLE IN
THE INFLATION REDUCTION ACT
REPRESENTS TREMENDOUS
OPPORTUNITIES TO DOUBLE DOWN ON
OUR WORK TO ACCELERATE BUILDING
CLEAN AND RENEWABLE ENERGY,
ACHIEVING CARBON NEUTRALITY AND
BUILDING CLIMATE RESILIENCE,
ALONG WITH OTHER EFFORTS, AS WE
LOOK AT ALL THE IMPRESSIVE
OPPORTUNITIES, I THINK WE SHOULD
ALSO EXPLORE HOW TO IMPROVE UPON
THE LESS EXCITING BUT NECESSARY
ASPECT THAT ASPECTS AND NEED TO
HAPPEN IN ORDER TO STREAMLINE
AND DEPLOY CLIMATE PROJECTS
FASTER AS SENATOR STERN MANSION
SUCH AS BETTER PLANNING,
STAFFING UP AGENCIES EARLIER
OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT
OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR
COMMUNITIES. A RECENT REPORT BY
THE ROOSEVELT INSTITUTE DELVES
INTO THIS AND MAKES A NUMBER OF
RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW TO DO
PERMITTING BETTER AND FASTER TO
ADDRESS OUR ENERGY AND CLIMATE
NEEDS PROPOSED TO TODAY'S
DISCUSSION. I WANT TO SHARE THAT
THE STATE WAS ABLE TO SECURE 100
AND $55 MILLION GRAB FROM THE
FEDERAL INFRASTRUCTURE
INVESTMENT IN JOBS ACT TO
ELEVATE A KEY SECTION OF STATE
ROUTE 37 IN MY DISTRICT. TO
GUARD AGAINST FUTURE FLOODING
AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO
SENATOR MCGUIRE FOR BEING
INSTRUMENTAL IN THAT. STATE
ROUTE. 37 IS A VITAL REGIONAL
CORRIDOR THAT CONNECTS TAMARINS
SONOMA, NAPA AND SOLANO COUNTIES
AND ENHANCES HABITAT
CONNECTIVITY FOR THE SAN PABLO
BAY. THIS FUNDING WOULD ALSO
HELP RESTORE THE SONOMA BAY
LANDS AS PART OF A LARGER
RESTORATION AND CLIMATE
RESILIENCE EFFORT. I HOPE OUR
DISCUSSIONS TODAY WILL ALSO
INCLUDE EFFORTS ON MAXIMIZING
GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE LIKE
WILDLIFE CORRIDORS AND CLIMATE
RESTORATION AND RESILIENCE. I
LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING ALL THE
WAYS WE CAN MAXIMIZE THE
BILLIONS OF DOLLARS AVAILABLE
THREE DAYS. FEDERAL SOURCES.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY, UM
WE'LL GET STARTED WITH OUR FIRST
PANEL CENTER. PADILLA HAS BEEN
GRACIOUS ENOUGH TO JUST SAY,
LET'S LET'S GET GOING AND GET TO
THE GET TO THE WORK. SO WITHOUT
FURTHER ADO, I WANT TO INVITE UP
RACHEL A. LEAR'S WITH THE LAO.
MISS GAIL MILLER, WITH
DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE AS WELL AS
TYSON, EQUALLY WITH THE
GOVERNOR'S OFFICE OF BUSINESS
AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AND
THEN VERY SPECIAL. WELCOME TO
OUR FEDERAL PARTNER AND ALLY
HERE ARE NOT PAUL WITH US
DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY HE'S BEEN A
LEADER AT THE GATES ON THIS
ISSUE AND IS YOU KNOW, A VERY
SPECIAL GUEST IS HERE IN
CALIFORNIA. SO WE APPRECIATE YOU
BEING HERE. SO I THINK WE'RE
GOING TO GET STARTED FIRST WITH
THE LEGISLATIVE ANALYST'S OFFICE
. IF THAT'S ALRIGHT WITH YOU,
MISS SAILORS SORT OF LAY SOME
GROUNDWORK, AND THEN WE CAN
DELVE INTO THE OTHER WITNESSES.
SO WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, THANK
YOU, MR CHAIR AND MEMBERS. GOOD
MORNING, RACHEL SAILORS WITH THE
LEGISLATIVE ANALYST'S OFFICE.
THANKS FOR INVITING US TO
PARTICIPATE. I WILL BE SPEAKING
FROM A HANDOUT, WHICH HOPEFULLY
YOU ALL HAVE. IT'S ALSO
AVAILABLE ON OUR WEBSITE. I
THINK ON THE COMMITTEE WEBSITE
AND I THINK OUT IN THE HALLWAY
FOR THOSE WHO ARE HERE. SO I
THINK MY ROLE HERE IS TO SET THE
STAGE FOR WHAT THE STATE HAS
DONE THUS FAR AND SPECIFICALLY
WHAT YOU ALL IN THE LEGISLATURE
HAVE DONE THIS FAR TO TRY AND
LEVERAGE SOME OF THESE FEDERAL
FUNDS THAT WILL BE THE TOPIC FOR
THE HEARING AND THAT MY FELLOW
PANELISTS WILL GET INTO MORE
DETAIL ON THE FEDERAL SIDE. SO
TURNING TO PAGE ONE OF THE
HANDOUT FIRST TO TALK ABOUT SOME
POLICY CHANGES THAT THE
LEGISLATURE MADE RECENTLY IN
PARTNERSHIP WITH THE GOVERNOR AS
PART OF THIS INFRASTRUCTURE
PACKAGE THAT I THINK EVERYONE IS
FAMILIAR WITH. THAT WAS A BIG
TOPIC OF DISCUSSION. BACK IN
JUNE, THERE WERE SIX BILLS THAT
WERE PART OF THAT PACKAGE, BUT I
HIGHLIGHT FOUR HERE THAT WERE
SPECIFICALLY, I THINK ORIENTED
AROUND TRYING TO LEVERAGE SOME
OF THIS FEDERAL FUNDING AND MAKE
THE STATE MORE COMPETITIVE. TO
NOT ONLY ATTAINING SOME OF THE
FUNDING BUT ALSO GETTING
PROJECTS DONE MORE QUICKLY, SO
JUST QUICK HIGHLIGHT SB 1 24
AUTHORIZED THE STATE IF IT DOES
SECURE SOME FEDERAL FUNDING FOR
THE I BANK TO BE ABLE TO SPEND
IT IN THE LEGISLATURE DID ADD
SOME COMPONENTS TO THAT PROPOSAL
TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE
EXPENDITURES ARE CONSISTENT WITH
STATE LAW. AND THE SCOPING PLAN
FOR ACHIEVING CARBON NEUTRALITY
. SECOND SB 1 49 MADE SOME
CHANGES AROUND SEQUA AND
SPECIFICALLY JUDICIAL, JUDICIAL
, STREAMLINING AND RECORDS OF
PROCEEDINGS AGAIN TRYING TO WITH
THE GOAL OF TRYING TO GET
PROJECTS MOVING MORE QUICKLY
SHORTENING THAT TIMELINE FOR
APPEALS IF PROJECTS MEET
SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS, INCLUDING
FOR CLEAN ENERGY PROJECTS. AND
THEN ALSO WHAT TYPES OF
MATERIALS ARE INCLUDED IN THE
ADMINISTRATIVE RECORD. SB 1 47
MADE SOME CHANGES AROUND FULLY
PROTECTED SPECIES AND
SPECIFICALLY, THE, UM INCIDENTAL
TAKE REQUIREMENTS AROUND THOSE
IN RESPONSE TO SOME CONCERNS
THAT THOSE WERE MAKING IT MORE
DIFFICULT FOR CERTAIN PROJECTS
TO MOVE FORWARD MORE QUICKLY,
TRYING TO BALANCE BOTH
PROTECTION OF SPECIES, BUT ALSO
THE ABILITY TO GET SOME OF THESE
PROJECTS DONE. AND THEN FINALLY
, SB 1 50 ADDED SOME
REQUIREMENTS AROUND HIGH ROAD
CONSTRUCTION CAREERS, PROGRAMS
AND COMMUNITY BENEFIT PROVISIONS
AGAIN, NOT ONLY TO ACHIEVE SOME
OF OUR WORKFORCE SCHOOLS BUT
ALSO AROUND FEDERAL FUNDING AND
MAKING US MORE COMPETITIVE.
TURNING TO PAGE TWO. THESE ARE
SOME OVERSIGHT QUESTIONS FROM A
REPORT THAT OUR OFFICE PUT OUT
LAST MONTH AROUND HOW YOU ALL
CAN OVERSEE THIS PACKAGE OF
LEGISLATION. I WOULD JUST
HIGHLIGHT THE TOP FOUR FOR YOU,
WHICH I THINK ARE MOST PERTINENT
TO TODAY'S HEARING. IS THIS
LEGISLATION DOING WHAT YOU
INTENDED? ARE THERE ADDITIONAL
STEPS YOU MIGHT WANT TO TAKE TO
ACHIEVE YOUR GOALS? I THINK
THOSE ARE KEY QUESTIONS. YOU
KNOW, TODAY. WE'RE JUST GETTING
STARTED WITH THIS PROCESS. BUT
AS WE MOVE ALONG IN THE NEXT
MONTHS AND YEARS, YOU KNOW, ARE
WE MOVING AS QUICKLY AS WE WANT
TO, WITH THE PROJECTS THAT WE
HAVE WE HAVE LAID OUT AS AS A
MEETING ARE IMPORTANT CLIMATE
GOALS. ARE WE BEING SUCCESSFUL
AT ATTAINING AND LEVERAGING MORE
FEDERAL FUNDING? YOU KNOW, THOSE
ARE QUESTIONS YOU'RE GOING TO
WANT TO CHECK IN ON MANY YEARS
FROM NOW, BUT PROBABLY ALSO A
FEW MONTHS FROM NOW TO CHECK THE
PROGRESS AND SEE IF THERE ARE
ANY COURSE CORRECTIONS OR
ADDITIONAL STEPS YOU MIGHT WANT
TO TAKE SO YOU CAN DO THAT
THROUGH OVERSIGHT HEARINGS LIKE
TODAY, THERE WERE SEVERAL
REPORTING REQUIREMENTS INCLUDED
IN SOME OF THIS LEGISLATION, BUT
I THINK THIS IS PROBABLY AN AREA
OF FOCUS THAT YOU ARE ON THE
LEGISLATURE ARE GOING TO WANT TO
KEEP YOUR EYE ON OVER THE COMING
MONTHS AND YEARS TO ENSURE WE'RE
MEETING OUR GOALS ON THIS FRONT.
TURNING TO PAGE THREE. IT'S NOT
JUST BEEN POLICY CHANGES THAT
THE LEGISLATURE HAS UNDERTAKEN
IN THE PAST FEW MOMENTS AND A
COUPLE OF YEARS BUT ALSO
SIGNIFICANT FUNDING ENABLED BY
OUR BUDGET SURPLUS TO FOCUS ON
GREENHOUSE GAS REDUCTION
ACTIVITIES IN SEVERAL DIFFERENT
CATEGORIES. WE HIGHLIGHT THIS IN
THE CONTEXT OF TODAY'S
DISCUSSION BOTH BECAUSE IT'S NOT
JUST FEDERAL FUNDING THAT'S
GOING TO HELP US ENABLE OUR
GOALS BUT ALSO STATE FUNDING,
BUT ALSO BECAUSE THIS CAN
POTENTIALLY HELP LEVERAGE SOME
FEDERAL FUNDING. HAS MATCHING
FANS OR A SEED MONEY THAT THEN
FEDERAL FUNDS COULD ADD TO SO
CERTAINLY VERY SIGNIFICANT, VERY
SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT IN ZERO
EMISSION VEHICLES, BOTH
PASSENGER VEHICLES AS WELL AS
TRUCKS AS WELL AS BUSSES. AH IN
MANY DIFFERENT CATEGORIES
SCHEDULED FOR OVER SIX YEARS,
EVEN WITH THE GENERAL FUND
REDUCTIONS THAT HAD TO BE TAKEN
IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET. THIS WAS
A REAL AREA OF PRIORITY TO
BACKFILL WITH GREENHOUSE GAS
REDUCTION FUNDS TO TRY AND KEEP
THAT PACKAGE LARGELY HOLE. ALSO
QUITE A BIT OF FUNDING FOR
ENERGY ACTIVITIES TO TRY AND
PURSUE OUR CLEAN ENERGY GOALS IN
VARIOUS DIFFERENT CATEGORIES.
FUNDING AROUND SUSTAINABLE
COMMUNITY, BOTH FOR DEVELOPMENT
OF HOUSING INFILL DEVELOPMENT,
TRYING TO MAKE ACHIEVE SOME OF
OUR GOALS FOR REDUCING VEHICLE
MILES, TRAVELED AND DENSITY AS
WELL AS TRANSFORMATIVE CLIMATE
COMMUNITIES. I THINK THAT THAT'S
PROBABLY A PROGRAM YOU'LL HEAR
ABOUT WHERE THE STATE REALLY
DEVELOPED THIS PROGRAM, AND THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS DEVELOPED
A SIMILAR PROGRAM REALLY
MIRRORED. OF CALIFORNIA, SO THAT
PERFECT OPPORTUNITY TO LEVERAGE
OUR EXPERTISE AND PROJECT
DEVELOPMENT HERE IN THE STATE
FOR THAT NEW FEDERAL PROGRAM.
AND THEN FINALLY FUNDING AROUND
AGRICULTURE AS WELL, WHICH IS OF
COURSE, AS YOU KNOW, A SOURCE OF
GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS.
TURNING TO THE FINAL PAGE HERE.
STAFF ASKED US TO PUT TOGETHER
IN OVERVIEW OF SOME OF THE
LEGISLATIVE BOND MEASURES THAT
ARE THAT THE LEGISLATURE'S, UM
DEBATING RIGHT NOW AROUND
CLIMATE THERE ARE 52 OF THEM
FOCUSED PRIMARILY ON WATER
RELATED ACTIVITIES, WHICH ISN'T
THE FOCUS OF TODAY'S HEARING. AS
YOU ALL KNOW, WE AT THE L A. OH,
DON'T TAKE POSITIONS ON BILLS,
SO THIS IS NOT INTENDED TO BE
ANY KIND OF ENDORSEMENT OR OR
HIGHLIGHTING OF MERITS, BUT
RATHER IN RESPONSE TO STAFF'S
REQUEST JUST TO HIGHLIGHT WHAT
SOME OF THE COMPONENTS OF THESE
BILLS ARE THAT FOCUS ON THE
TOPIC OF TODAY'S HEARING IN
GREENHOUSE GAS REDUCTION
ACTIVITIES. APOLOGIES TO AUTHORS
. IF THIS IS NOT COMPREHENSIVE,
THERE'S A LOT IN THESE BILLS,
BUT WE TRIED TO PULL OUT SOME
FEATURES JUST TO HIGHLIGHT FOR
YOU WHAT SOME OF THE DISCUSSIONS
ARE BEFORE YOU. ON THESE TOPICS
AGAIN. OF COURSE, THIS FUNDING
COULD POTENTIALLY BE USED TO
LEVERAGE SOME FEDERAL FUNDS AS
WELL. AND WITH THAT, MR CHAIR
HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AFTER
MY FELLOW PANELISTS CONCLUDED
GREAT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. UM
LET'S TURN THEN TO, UM UM THE
WHO HAVE YOU IS THE GO TO PERSON
. THIS ADMINISTRATION ON GETTING
THINGS DONE ON THE IRA. WE
APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE, MISS
MILLER, UM, EXCITED TO HEAR YOUR
TESTIMONY, FOR INSTANCE. THANK
YOU SENATORS AND
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S AND TRULY
GRATEFUL TO BE HERE TODAY IN
PARTNERSHIP. I LAST TIME I WAS
IN THIS ROOM WE WERE. WE WERE
TALKING A LOT ABOUT POTENTIAL TO
BUILD FASTER, BUILD MORE AND
REALLY MEET THE GOALS THAT YOU
SPOKE TO. I DO THINK WHAT YOU
SAID. THAT'S SO IMPORTANT IS WE
ARE KIND OF TRAVERSING THIS GAP
. NOW WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY IN
CALIFORNIA HAS DONE AN AMAZING
JOB WITH THAT WITH THIS 2045
GOAL AND ALL THESE INCREMENTAL
STEPS, INCLUDING FLEET AND
TRANSPORTATION, AND, UM, AND THE
MANDATES ABOUT CLEAN AIR, AND WE
ACTUALLY HAVE THIS INCREDIBLE
FUNDING OPPORTUNITY, BUT I STILL
THINK WHAT WE STARTED WORKING ON
WAS WHAT I CALL KIND OF THE GAP,
WHICH IS BUILDING FASTER WITH
EQUITY AND WORKFORCE IN MIND
LIKE YOU SAID, AND SO IT REALLY
IS A PLEASURE TO BE HERE TODAY
TO REALLY BEGIN TO THINK ABOUT
HOW YOU'RE GOING TO HOLD THE
ADMINISTRATION ACCOUNTABLE IN
TURN, HOW WE CAN HOLD THE U. S
DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY AND OUR
FEDERAL PARTNERS ACCOUNTABLE AND
HOW WE ARE GOING TO WORK
TOGETHER TO REALLY REBUILD THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA. SO JUST
GRATEFUL TO BE HERE TODAY. I'M
GAIL MILLER. I'M THE SENIOR
COUNSELOR TO THE GOVERNOR ON
INFRASTRUCTURE AND CLEAN ENERGY
FINANCE. UM AND I THINK I JUST
WANT TO KIND OF RECAP. WHY WE'RE
HERE. YOU ALL KNOW THIS. I THINK
EVERYONE KNOWS THIS. SECRETARY
CROW FOOTE CALLS IT WEATHER
WHIPLASH. SO WE HAVE, UM, 6
MILLION CALIFORNIANS. 15% OF OUR
STATE HAS FACED WATER RATIONING
. WE HAVE SCORES OF COMMUNITIES
THAT RAN OUT OF WATER. WE HAVE
CATASTROPHIC FLOODING. UM I
DON'T THINK ANYONE EXPECTED THIS
HURRICANE AND WHAT WE SAW IN IN
THE DESERT, SENATOR PATTY,
OBVIOUSLY WE CARE A LOT ABOUT
EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED THERE
AND THANK GOD WE COULD BE
PREPARED FOR THAT. SO AS WE GO
KIND OF FROM THE DRIEST AND THEN
TO THE WETTEST TIME IN 172 YEAR
HISTORY, I DO THINK WE ARE AT
THE FOREFRONT OF CLIMATE CHANGE.
WE ALL AGREE ON THAT. WE KNOW
THAT THERE IS THIS EPIC
OPPORTUNITY WITH THESE FEDERAL
OPPORTUNITIES, BUT WE REALLY
HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE
GOING TO GET THERE. SO, UM WE
ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK
TOGETHER AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.
AND I THINK TO MISS SAILORS
POINT, I DO THINK CALIFORNIA
LEADS THE WAY AND TO YOUR TEAM
AND THE FOLKS THAT PUT TOGETHER
THE BACKGROUND. I THINK IT'S
SOME REALLY INCREDIBLE
INFORMATION AS TO HOW AND WHAT
WE'RE GOING TO DO. UM THAT COUGH
IS PROBABLY FROM CLIMATE CHANGE.
SENATOR IT'S WAY TOO DRY IN
HERE. UM SO WE? I THINK IN
PARTNERSHIP AS WELL. AND I KNOW
THESE THINGS HAVE COME FAST AND
FURIOUSLY AND BUT THE PACKAGE SO
WE HAD A HUGE PACKAGE THIS YEAR
ABOUT THE HOW YOUR PACKAGE THAT
YOU WORKED COLLABORATIVELY WITH
THE ADMINISTRATION LAST YEAR WAS
REALLY THE Y SO WE HAVE THESE
INCREDIBLY AMBITIOUS GOALS AND
WE ALL KNOW HOW INCREDIBLY
CHALLENGING IT'S GOING TO GET TO
GET THERE TO MEET THOSE GOALS.
SO NO LATER THAN 2045. WE'RE
LOOKING FOR CARBON NEUTRALITY.
90% CLEAN ENERGY BY 2035. WE
HAVE NEW SETBACK MEASURES
PROTECTING COMMUNITIES FROM OIL
DRILLING, AND WE'RE DOING ALL OF
THIS AS WE REALLY INCREASE OUR
ECONOMIC OUTPUT. CALIFORNIA IS
NECK AND NECK WITH GERMANY IN
TERMS OF BECOMING THE FOURTH
LARGEST ECONOMY IN THE WORLD.
AND SO WHEN, WHEN CALIFORNIA'S
ACTING OR NOT ACTING AS A STATE
IN THE COUNTRY WE ARE ACTING AS
ALMOST OUR VERY OWN COUNTRY IN
AND OF ITSELF, SO WE DO HERE
OFTEN WORK. CALIFORNIA GOES SO
EVERYONE FOLLOWS AND WE IT IS
INCUMBENT UPON US TO SET THAT
EXAMPLE. A HUGE CHALLENGE, AND I
THINK ALL OF YOU HAVE BEEN SUPER
AWARE OF THIS IS THAT WE NEED A
EIGHT GIGAWATTS OF ENERGY EVERY
YEAR OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS. AND
NOW WE KNOW WE HAVE A PLAN FROM
THE CALIFORNIA INDEPENDENT
SYSTEM. OPERATOR YOU'RE ALL
CONSIDERING A BILL ON ENERGY AND
PROCUREMENT. WHAT CENTRALIZED
PROCUREMENT WILL LOOK LIKE
YOU'RE ALL REALLY WORKING WITH
US COLLABORATIVELY ACTUALLY IN
ANOTHER HEARING, RIGHT NOW ON ON
ISSUES YOU REALLY CARE ABOUT
WHAT? WHAT GETS FIRED UP. WHEN
HOW DO WE KEEP THE LIGHTS ON
WHILE MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE
REALLY BALANCING OUR COMMITMENT
TO CLEAN ENERGY? AND KEEPING THE
LIGHTS ON. SO JUST ON FEDERAL
FUNDING QUICKLY, THERE'S A
COUPLE SLIDES IN YOUR DECK THAT
KIND THAT LAY OUT THIS PUBLIC
PRIVATE OPPORTUNITY IN TERMS OF
THE TOTAL $180 BILLION
OPPORTUNITY OVER THE NEXT DECADE
THAT CALIFORNIA HAS AND THIS IS,
IT'S ABSOLUTELY TRANSFORMATIVE.
THIS IS NOT JUST ABOUT CLIMATE
AND CLIMATE CHANGE. THIS IS
ABOUT AN INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION,
BUT ONE THAT REALLY ACKNOWLEDGES
EQUITY AND WORKFORCE AND MAKING
SURE THAT WE DON'T LEAVE
COMMUNITIES BEHIND. SO I DO. I
JUST WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT
ABOUT KIND OF THIS ALL OF
GOVERNMENT APPROACH, OBVIOUSLY
WITH THE LEADERSHIP OF THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. WE HAD AN
OPPORTUNITY TO FIRST DO AN
EXECUTIVE ORDER, WHICH PRECEDED
ALL OF THE PIECES OF THE OF THE
PERMITTING REFORM PACKAGE, AND,
AS THE GOVERNOR SAID THAT
PACKAGE ITSELF WAS JUST A DOWN
PAYMENT AND APPRECIATE THE
WILLINGNESS TO CONTINUE TO WORK
ON THOSE ISSUES. SO WE HAVE THIS
STRIKE TEAM AND WE OFFERED WHEN
WE WERE TESTIFYING BEFORE YOU
THIS SUMMER TO REALLY GET INPUT
. WHAT YOU'LL START TO SEE AS
THE STRIKE TEAM IS AGENCY
SECRETARIES FROM TRANSPORTATION
, NATURAL RESOURCES, BUSINESS,
CONSUMER SERVICES AND HOUSING,
AGRICULTURE, LABOR.
ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION,
GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS AND
OBVIOUSLY IN PARTNERSHIP WITH
WITH OUR PARTNERS AT THE
GOVERNOR'S OFFICE OF BUSINESS
DEVELOPMENT, AND TYSON EQUALLY,
WHO KNOWS SO MUCH ABOUT THIS IS
TRACKING ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT
AND POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITIES, AND
I HOPE YOU'LL ASK HIM LOTS AND
LOTS OF QUESTIONS. IT REALLY IS
THIS ALL OF GOVERNMENT APPROACH
AND WE ARE CONSTANTLY
COLLABORATING TO SEE WHERE THE
CHALLENGES ARE. WHAT WE CAN DO
BETTER HOW WE CAN PARTNER BETTER
WITH YOU IN THAT SPIRIT WILL BE
LAUNCHING A DASHBOARD. HOPEFULLY
BEFORE YOU ADJOURN, SO YOU'LL
REALLY START TO BE ABLE TO SEE
WHAT AND HOW WE'RE TRACKING AND
THAT AND HOPEFULLY THAT WILL BE
A MODEL FOR WHAT OTHER STATES
ARE DOING AROUND THE COUNTRY. SO
UM, OBVIOUSLY OUR GOALS AS YOU
KNOW, OUR WE'RE GOING TO SECURE
ALL THIS FORMULA FUNDING. A LOT
OF THAT HAPPENS THROUGH CALISTA
. SO A LOT OF THAT FORMULA.
FUNDING IS TRANSPORTATION BASED
. SO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
AND WE CAN GO BACK AND FORTH ON
THIS THEN, IN SOME WAYS FORMULA
FUNDING ARE THE TAX CREDITS, AND
WE HAVE SOME FOLKS IN THE
AUDIENCE THAT ARE ARE THE
DEVELOPERS AND THE CREATORS THAT
ARE REALLY FIGURING OUT HOW
THESE TAX CREDITS ARE GOING TO
DRIVE THE MARKET. SOME FOLKS ARE
SAYING THOSE TAX CREDITS ARE
BUILT IN. I DON'T THINK THAT'S
ACCURATE. I THINK THERE'S HUGE
OPPORTUNITIES TO SEE HOW WE
CREATE THESE CAPITAL STACKS. TAX
CREDITS GRANTS FIRST LOSS
PROGRAMS WE'LL HEAR ABOUT THE
LOAN PROGRAM OFFICE THAT U S, D,
O E AND HOW WE REALLY CREATE
THIS OPPORTUNITY TO DRIVE MORE
INVESTMENT IN THIS STATE. AND
MAKE CALIFORNIA THE STATE OF
CHOICE IN THAT WAY. SO WE
CONTINUE TO REALLY MAXIMIZE THAT
FUNDING AND MAKE SURE THAT ALL
OF THAT FUNDING CONTINUES TO
MEET CALIFORNIA'S GOALS, WHICH
IS CLEAN, SAFE, RELIABLE,
RESILIENT, EQUITABLE CARBON
NEUTRAL ZERO EMISSION. SO YOU'LL
CONTINUE TO SORT OF SEE WHAT
WE'RE DOING, AND IN THE IN THE
DECK THAT TYSON PROVIDED YOU'LL
SEE A SMART SHEET THAT HELPS
MAINTAIN ALIGNMENT. AND YOU'LL
CONTINUE TO SEE ALL THE WAYS IN
WHICH CALIFORNIA IS EITHER
APPLYING FOR OR PARTNERING WITH
OUR PRIVATE SECTOR TO MAKE SURE
THAT WE'RE MAXIMIZING ALL OF THE
FUNDING AVAILABLE AND FOR THOSE
OF YOU THAT HAVE FOLKS,
ESPECIALLY IN THE AUDIENCE. THIS
IS HOW WE MAKE THIS WORK IS
THROUGH THIS COLLABORATION. THIS
HAS TO BE PRIVATE AND PUBLIC
SECTOR. THIS IS NOT SORT OF THE
TECH BOOM. I THINK SENATOR,
STERN SAID. THIS THIS ISN'T LIKE
TECH, WHICH IS HAPPENING AND WE
DIDN'T HAVE AS BIG A PART IN IT.
THIS HAS TO BE DONE IN
PARTNERSHIP BECAUSE THE FUNDING
IS FOLLOWING THE POLICIES AND
CALIFORNIA IS AT THE FOREFRONT
OF POLICIES. CALIFORNIA DOES
CONSUME THE MOST CLEAN ENERGY IN
THE COUNTRY. WE ARE NOT
DEVELOPING THE MOST CLEAN ENERGY
IN THE COUNTRY, AND SO JUST A
COUPLE EXAMPLES AND I'LL WRAP UP
BECAUSE I'D RATHER GET TO YOUR
QUESTIONS IS WE HAVE A FEW OF
OUR CURRENT FEDERAL FUNDING
EFFORTS BY BANK AGAIN IN
COLLABORATION HAS SUBMITTED FOR
THE STATE'S NOTICE OF INTENT TO
PARTICIPATE IN THE $7 BILLION
SOLAR FOR ALL FUNDING
OPPORTUNITY. AND WE'RE HAPPY TO
GIVE YOU ANY ANY MORE
INFORMATION YOU WANT ON ALL OF
THIS. WE ALSO THAT'S ONE OF THE
MANY OPPORTUNITIES OUT OF THE
GREENHOUSE GREENHOUSE GAS
REDUCTION FUND. I ACTUALLY THINK
YOUR GRAPHICS ARE BETTER. I MEAN
, THEY'RE AMAZING. MR ECOLI HAS
BEEN AN INCREDIBLE LEADER IN
THIS ARCHES IN LIKE WE'RE GONNA
KNOCK ON WOOD AND WHATEVER YOUR
TRADITION IS THAT CALIFORNIA
REMAINS COMPETITIVE. I WE ARE
DOING THERE'S ALL OUT PRESS TO
REALLY SEE IF SO MUCH OF THE
IRA'S FOCUSING ON THE SCREEN
HYDROGEN OPPORTUNITY. CALIFORNIA
IS DOING ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING
WE CAN TO CREATE ONE OF THESE
HUBS. THAT IS AN $8 BILLION
OPPORTUNITY. THE APPLICATIONS
JUST OPENED, UM, FOR THE FUNDING
THAT $8.5 BILLION HOME ENERGY
REBATE PROGRAM. I KNOW THAT'S A
BIG INTEREST OF BIGGER SHAW'S AT
THE LOAN PROGRAM OFFICE, ALONG
WITH THE VIRTUAL POWER PLANTS
YOU'LL HEAR FROM THEM CONNECT
TODAY, SO THAT'S ALL ABOUT WE
HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY. NOT ONLY IN
THIS BIG, BOLD HOW DO WE RESHAPE
OUR SYSTEM AND TRANSMISSION
LINES. BUT HOW DO WE REALLY WORK
WITH CONSUMERS TO MAKE SURE THAT
LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE? UM MIKE
PHILLIPS FROM CENSUS HERE TODAY
AS WELL ARE THEIR SOFTWARE
SOLUTIONS FROM SOME OF THE WAYS
IN WHICH WE CAN ACTUALLY REDUCE
ENERGY BY RELYING ON CONSUMERS.
FOR EXAMPLE, NOT ALL OF US HAVE
TO CHARGE OUR CARS AT THE SAME
TIME. IS THERE A WAY TO DO THAT
BETTER, AND MR DE VRIES WILL
TALK HOPEFULLY ABOUT WHAT IT
MEANS WHEN YOU CAN SORT OF
BORROW AND TAKE ENERGY AND
CREATE A MORE EFFICIENT GRID. SO
THEN YOU'RE DOING CAPACITY
MATCHING TRANSMISSION BUILDING,
GROWING OUR GRID AND FIGURING
OUT HOW TO MAXIMIZE ALL THOSE
EFFICIENCIES. SO AGAIN.
INCREDIBLE OPPORTUNITIES. UM CAR
, THE CALIFORNIA AIR RESOURCES
BOARD HAD PUBLIC WORKSHOPS FOR
THE $5 BILLION CLIMATE
POLLUTION. REDUCTION GRANTS
PROGRAM. WHY DO WE MAKE
EVERYTHING SUCH A COMPLICATED
TITLE? UM AND SO THIS IS AGAIN.
I THINK MISS SAILORS POINTED OUT
THAT THIS IS BUILDING ON
CALIFORNIA'S WORK, SO WE SHOULD
BE REALLY PROUD OF ALL THE WORK
WE'VE DONE IN TERMS OF EQUITY
AND COMMUNITIES AND REALLY
MAKING SURE THAT THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT IS BUILDING ON THAT,
SO THAT SHOULD GIVE US THESE
REMARKABLE OPPORTUNITIES. AND
CALISTA. I KNOW WE TALK A LOT
ABOUT TRANSPORTATION.
TRANSPORTATION IS SORT OF THE
BACKBONE. IT SUPPORTS ALL OF
THIS TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT
WE'RE ACTUALLY DELIVERING THESE
GOALS AND CLEANING THE AIR. THE
REASON THE TRANSPORTATION SECTOR
WENT FIRST AND TERMS OF CLEANING
UP THESE CLEAN FLEETS IS BECAUSE
OF WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN OUR
COMMUNITIES WITH THE HIGHEST
RATES OF ASTHMA. THE DIRTIEST
AIR IN THE IN THE COUNTRY AND
MANY CASES, SO JUST A COUPLE
MORE THINGS ON WHAT GÓMEZ DOES,
ALTHOUGH I ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK
AT THE DECK AND ASKED MR
ACKERLEY THERE'S A CROWD
SOURCING WEBSITE. WE'RE HELPING
WITH FUNDING. YOU CAN REALLY WE
HAVE ATLAS'S PUBLIC POLICIES,
CLIMATE CHANGE PORTAL AND WE
HAVE WE'VE BEEN AWARDED ABOUT
2.5 BILLION AND COMPETITIVE AND
FORMULA FUNDING CLIMATE PROGRAMS
AGAIN THAT WILL CONTINUE TO GROW
. THAT NUMBER IS A LITTLE BIT
LITTLE BIT MISLEADING WHEN YOU
COMPARE IT TO THE 180 BILLION
JUST LIKE US. THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT IS REALLY WORKING SO
INCREDIBLY FAST. IT DOESN'T
ALWAYS FEEL INCREDIBLY FAST
BECAUSE OF HOW MUCH TIME IT
TAKES TO GET THESE PROGRAMS OUT
THE DOOR. SO JUST TO WRAP UP. I
THINK THERE ARE AT LEAST A DOZEN
FEDERAL FUNDING GRANT
OPPORTUNITIES AVAILABLE NOW IT
IS THE REASON WE REALLY PUT SO
MUCH PRESSURE AND WORKED IN SUCH
INCREDIBLE PARTNERSHIP WITH YOU
, MR CONNELLY. TO YOUR POINT TO
MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE RESTORING
WETLANDS AND PROTECTING WILDLIFE
WHILE REALLY SAYING CALIFORNIA'S
COMMITTED TO THIS TRANSITION,
WE'RE NO LONGER JUST TALKING
ABOUT IT. UM SO I THINK I WILL
NOT GO. I WON'T BELABOR THE
POINT OF WHY THIS IS SO
IMPORTANT. BUT IT IS AGAIN. I
THINK THE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE
LEGISLATURE AND ESPECIALLY THE
FOCUS ON THIS COMMITTEE HAS BEEN
EXTRAORDINARY AND WHAT WE DO
NOW, AS WE START TO HEAR FROM
WHAT WE CAN DO IN PARTNERSHIP
WITH THE PRIVATE SECTOR, I THINK
WILL BE IMPERATIVE SO HAPPY TO
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, THRILLED
TO BE BACK AND REALLY FIGURING
IT OUT HOW WE CAN WORK TOGETHER
ON THIS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO
MUCH. UM MR. ACTUALLY I HAVE A
CHART HERE THAT I THINK IS WHAT
YOUR BRAIN MUST FEEL LIKE. EVERY
DAY. IT'S IN, YOU KNOW, EIGHT
POINTS OR TWO POINT FOUGHT, BUT
DO YOU WANNA START TO SORT OF
UNWRAP SOME OF THAT FOREST OR DO
YOU WANT TO MOVE TO DO WE WANT
TO MAYBE GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF
TESTIMONY UP FRONT IN THE MIDDLE
CAN ASK YOU SOME SOME DEEPER
QUESTIONS. OR WOULD YOU RATHER
JUST COME BACK? AND JUST FOR THE
Q AND A, HOWEVER YOU WANT I
MEAN, I CAN JUST JUST OKAY. DID
YOU WANT TO POINT? I'D LIKE TO
ASK A QUESTION. OKAY OKAY. SO
WHY DON'T YOU DO SOME OPENING?
SURE AND THEN WE CAN BUT BE
BRIEF, AND THEN WE'LL START TO
DIG INTO YOUR YOUR MAP OF PART
OF THAT, LIKE THERE'S A FEW
SLIDES AND THEY'RE ONE OF THE
SHOW THE CONSTELLATION OF
PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO
TRACK AND THEN WHAT THOSE
SPREADSHEETS ARE, YOU KNOW IS
OVER. 300 PROGRAMS WERE
TRACKING. WE CAN'T HUMANLY. YOU
KNOW, MANAGE ALL OF IT. AND SO
WE'RE, UM OH, YEAH. THERE WE GO.
DOES THIS SHOW SOMETHING
SOMEWHERE? OH GOOD. OKAY, SO
WE'LL FOLLOW ALONG WITH YOU.
HERE'S YOUR DICK. SO PERFECT.
THERE WE GO. OKAY OKAY. SO THIS
IS MAGNITUDE AND FUNDING. I
MEAN, GAIL KIND OF HIT ON THIS.
WE DON'T HAVE TO BLAME THE
APPOINTMENT. THERE'S A BUNCH OF
DIFFERENT YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE
THE BIPARTISAN HISTORY OF LAW
AND IRA. THIS WE CAN'T SHOW YOU
THIS IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, BUT
THERE'S A IT'S A CONSTELLATION
OF ALL THE PROGRAMS AND HOW THEY
RELATE INTO THE DIFFERENT
AGENCIES. AND SO YOU IMAGINE IF
YOU'RE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
THAT THIS IS INSANE AMOUNT OF
WORK TO MANAGE THEM. WE'RE JUST
TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE
MAKING THE MOST OF IT. SO THE
POINT THERE IS JUST TO STRESS
EVERYBODY OUT. AND THEN SHOW
THAT WE HAVE A MIAMI UNDER
CONTROL. BUT IN REALITY, IT'S
KIND OF LIKE ALL THIS STUFF.
THERE IS A MASTER PLAN TO IT AND
YOU CAN. YOU CAN MAP IT. THIS
YOU KNOW, I THINK GAIL MENTIONED
SOME OF THESE KIND OF THE
MAGNITUDE OF THE FUNDING. BUT
MAYBE THIS FOR IN THIS FOR THE
SORT SAKE OF BREVITY. SO THIS
THIS IS THIS AN OVERVIEW AND WE
HAVE A PUBLIC VERSION OF THIS
THAT YOU CAN SCROLL THROUGH ITS
. IT'S ACTUALLY LINKED, I THINK
ON THE SLIDE DECK ITSELF, AND SO
YOU CAN KIND OF LOOK AT A HIGH
LEVEL. YOU LOOK AT LOOK AT THE
GREEN STUFF LIKE IN THAT SECOND
COLUMN THOSE THERE'S KIND OF A
PLAN IN PLACE. YELLOW IS LIKE
THE PLAN IS FORMING, AND SOME WE
DON'T KNOW RIGHT. AND SO THAT'S
KIND OF WHERE WITH THE WAY WE'VE
STRATIFIED. IT IS LIKE OKAY. IS
IT LIKE REALLY IMPORTANT
PROGRAMS ARE OVER A BILLION
DOLLARS NATIONALLY AND MEET A
BUNCH OF OUR CLIMATE GOALS. YOU
KNOW, KIND OF MULTIPLE THINGS.
THEN WE START TO OKAY. WELL, IF
IT'S LESS THAN A BILLION, BUT IT
STILL MEETS MULTIPLE GOALS LIKE
GETTING INTO CARBON NEUTRALITY
OR ZERO MISSION. TRANSPORTATION
OR EQUITY, YOU KNOW, LIKE THAT'S
STILL REALLY IMPORTANT. WE KIND
OF RATCHET IT DOWN FROM THERE.
MAYBE IT'S LESS THAN 500
MILLION, AND YOU KNOW, SO IT'S
NOT A PERFECT SCIENCE, BUT SO
THAT'S HOW WE PRIORITIZE THIS.
AND THEN IT'S ALL BASED ON DATES
AND THEN AS AN ADMINISTRATION,
WE GET TOGETHER REGULARLY. ALL
THE DEPUTIES FOR CLIMATE AND
DISK. OKAY, THAT'S THIS ONE'S
FALLING BEHIND. WE GOT TO MAKE
SURE LIKE WHO'S GOT A PLAN.
WHO'S THE LEAD AND WE IDENTIFY
THE CLEAR LEAD AND THEN LET THEM
RUN WITH IT, AND THAT'S REALLY
ONLY WAY WE CAN DO IT. THERE'S
ALSO A LOT OF BENEFIT AND
BRINGING IN EXTERNAL HELP,
BECAUSE LOCALS CAN APPLY REGIONS
CAN APPLY. SO THAT'S AND WE
DON'T KNOW WHAT WE DON'T KNOW.
AND THAT'S PART OF THE CHALLENGE
BECAUSE THERE ARE APPLICATIONS
THAT GO IN THAT WE AREN'T AWARE
OF AND WE'RE DOING THE BEST WE
CAN AND LIKE THIS, SO THAT'S I
THINK A GOOD PLACE WHERE WE CAN
COORDINATE TO. AS YOU'RE
LEARNING FOR THINGS. DON'T
ASSUME THAT WE KNOW BECAUSE WE,
YOU KNOW, WE ONLY KNOW WHAT
PEOPLE TELL US WHAT WE'VE WHAT
OUR RELATIONSHIPS HAVE OUT
THERE. BIG PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE
A REALLY GOOD IDEA, LIKE THE
HYDROGEN HUB OR THE DIRECTOR OF
CAPTURE HUBS, BUT THE SMALLER
ONES, THERE'S STILL A LOT OF
OPPORTUNITY OUT THERE. AND
SEEING KENNETH SCROLL THROUGH
AND THEN THE OTHER THINGS THIS,
YOU KNOW, FOR AS FAR AS HELPING
STAKEHOLDERS LIKE ALL THE
RESOURCES THAT WE PULL ON OUR ON
THIS WEB SITE, YOU KNOW, SEEING
KINDA AND THERE'S A LOT THERE.
GAIL MENTIONED THE OUTLOOKS.
PUBLIC POLICY. WE'RE PARTNERING
WITH THEM. I AM THIS AND THEY'RE
DOING A TON OF WORK. YOU GUYS
CAN GET ACCOUNTS AS WELL. AND
THEY DO A GREAT JOB OF VISUALIZE
HOW THE FUNDING IS FLOWING. AND
YOU KNOW, IT LOOKS NICE BECAUSE
CALIFORNIA IS THE DARKEST
MEANING. WE'VE GOT THE MOST
FUNDING SO FAR IN THE COUNTRIES
THAT FEELS GOOD. BUT SO THAT
THAT STUFF IS THERE. UM AND THEY
DO A GREAT JOB WITH IT. AND THEN
WE ALSO HAVE THE TAX CREDIT ALL
THE TAX CREDIT INFORMATION
THERE, SO THEY JUST AT LEAST ALL
IN ONE SPOT AND THEN THE LAST
ONE. I WANTED TO SHOW THIS IS A
LINK AND YOU CAN CLICK ON IT,
AND WE HAVEN'T PUBLICIZED A
BUNCH, BUT IT'S KIND OF MORE
PUBLIC FACING ONE WHERE IT'S
LIKE. HERE'S ALL THE PROGRAMS
FOR TRACKING CAN SEE WHETHER OR
NOT WE ARE AWARE THAT THERE'S A
GREEN DOT IF THERE'S LIKE A PLAN
IN PLACE IF THERE'S SOMETHING
THAT'S EITHER YELLOW, RED OR
EMPTY, AND YOU KNOW, IT'S
SOMETHING PLEASE LET US KNOW
BECAUSE THAT THAT HELPS, BUT SO
I GUESS THE BIG POINT, THERE IS
A TON OF OPPORTUNITY MORE THAN
WE CAN HUMANLY TRACK EFFECTIVELY
, SO IT REALLY IS THAT
COLLABORATIVE APPROACH THAT WE
HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, WORKING
ACROSS ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS TO
MAXIMIZE THIS, BUT THE MORE
PEOPLE CAN GET FOCUSED ON IT,
AND THE MORE IT LEADS. WE CAN
IDENTIFY THE BETTER OFF. WE'RE
GOING TO BE AS A STATE. THAT
THAT WORKS FOR NOW. DID YOU HAVE
A FEW MORE YOU WANT TO KEEP
GOING. WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU
AND STARTED TO START TO DRILL
DOWN. THANK YOU HAVE A CROWD.
YEAH, THAT WAS YOUR YEAH, THAT'S
IT. YEAH SO THERE'S LIKE A SO
THIS IS THE THIS IS THE CROWD
SOURCE. PART OF IT IS OVER. BUT
THERE IS YOU CAN CLICK ON THE
LINK THERE AND THERE'S ACTUALLY
A GOES INTO OUR SMARTSHEET. AND
THEN YOU CAN PUT IN THE
STAKEHOLDERS CAN PUT IN
INFORMATION RELATED TO THE
PROGRAMS AND ALL FEED INTO A
AUTOMATED SPREADSHEETS THAT
HELPS US OKAY. I KNOW YOU'VE
PROBABLY TRIGGERED 15 QUESTIONS
FROM MY COLLEAGUES HERE, SO I
WANT TO. I WANT TO GET BACK TO
YOU, BUT I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE
WE GOT TIME, AT LEAST AT THE
OUTSET FROM THE U. S DEPARTMENT
OF ENERGY, MR POWELL, YOU'VE
BEEN ESSENTIALLY EMBEDDED IF
THAT'S FAIR TO SAY, AS AS
SOMEONE FROM DEPARTMENT OF
ENERGY FROM THIS ADMINISTRATION
SPECIFICALLY UNDER MR SHAW, WHO
HAS INNOVATED AND GOTTA A
MANDATE TO TRANSFORM THIS ENTIRE
ECONOMY ESSENTIALLY AT THE
DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY, SO WE
APPRECIATE YOU SPENDING TIME AND
SHAPING THIS. I JUST AM HOPING
YOU CAN GIVE US SOME INITIAL
REMARKS. YOU KNOW, I HOPE THAT
YOUR MIND MAP AND CROWDSOURCED
MAP OR EVEN MORE ADVANCED THAN
TYSON'S, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW
EITHER OF YOU HOLD IT ALL IN
YOUR HEAD. I KNOW YOU'RE NOT
RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL PROGRAMS
THERE BUT THAT GENERAL VISION
WOULD BE APPRECIATED. IT'S A
IT'S A LOT. IT'S AN
EMBARRASSMENT OF RICHES. BUT YOU
KNOW, WE ALSO KNOW IT'S IT CAN
BE FLEETING AND IT'S COMPETITIVE
. AT LEAST PART OF IT. SO UM
YOUR INSIGHT ON HOW WE CAN
BETTER COMPETE WOULD BE MUCH
APPRECIATED. THANK YOU. AND
THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE
TODAY. UM I WILL. I WILL START
THIS PROCESS OFF BY SAYING THAT
I AM NOT INVOLVED IN THE
HYDROGEN HUB PROPOSAL AT ALL.
BUT I. I'VE HEARD GREAT THINGS
SO BUT I WILL I YOU KNOW, I WANT
TO SPECIFICALLY TALK ABOUT
WHAT'S THAT? OH DON'T DON'T.
DON'T QUOTE ME ON THAT. UM BUT
NO, I YOU KNOW, ON MY FOCUS IS
REALLY ON THE LOVE PROGRAMS
OFFICE. SO WHAT I FIGURED I'D DO
IS GIVE JUST A REALLY, REALLY
BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THAT AND
REALLY TOUCH ON SOME OF THE
THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN, UH,
PREVIOUSLY SAID UM, ABOUT STATE
FEDERAL PARTNERSHIP HOW WE CAN
LEVERAGE SOME OF THE STATE FUNDS
WITH FEDERAL FUNDS. UM AND SORT
OF HOW LIKE WE'RE DEVELOPING AN
INDUSTRIAL STRATEGY ACROSS THE
COUNTRY THAT REALLY NEEDS STATE
, LOCAL FEDERAL COORDINATION AND
INPUT AND REALLY LIKE REALLY
JUST LEADERSHIP FROM THE PRIVATE
SECTOR AS WELL. SO SINCE I'M THE
NEW PERSON, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF
MY BACKGROUND, I'M A PRINCIPAL
CONSULTANT TO THE DEPARTMENT,
ENERGY LAW PROGRAMS OFFICE AND
DIRECTOR SHAW. UM YES, HE HAS
TASKED ME WITH WORKING WITH
CALIFORNIA. UM SO I'M A DOUBLE
AGENT OF SORTS IF YOU WANT TO
CALL IT AND I'M ALSO NATIVE
CALIFORNIA, AND SO I'M VERY
PROUD TO BE WORKING WITH ALL OF
YOU HERE. UM PRIOR TO MY ROLE.
DONT I WAS SENIOR STAFFER IN
UNITED STATES SENATE. SO I
NEGOTIATED MANY OF THE KEY
PROVISIONS IN THE I R A AND, YOU
KNOW A LOT OF WHAT WE'RE DOING
HERE TODAY IS VERY NEAR AND DEAR
TO MY HEART AND YOU KNOW, WE
SPENT A YEAR AND A HALF DAY AND
NIGHT TRYING TO GET ACROSS THE
FINISH LINE, SO IT MAKES ME FEEL
REALLY GOOD TO KNOW HOW HARD AND
HOW FOCUSED YOU GUYS ALL ARE ON
EXECUTING ON THIS SO THANK YOU
ALL FOR THAT. THIS IS NOT EASY,
SO IF IT SOUNDS HARD, IT'S
BECAUSE IT'S HARD. AH. SO THE
LOAN PROGRAMS OFFICE REALLY
WORKS WITH THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO
FINANCE THE DEPLOYMENT AND SCALE
UP OF INNOVATIVE CLEANERS. YOU
TECHNOLOGIES, BUILD
INFRASTRUCTURE AND DOMESTIC
SUPPLY CHAINS AND, YOU KNOW,
BASICALLY CREATE JOBS AND REDUCE
EMISSIONS ACROSS COMMUNITIES IN
THE COUNTRY. OUR TAGLINE. I
THINK IT'S VERY FITTING FOR THIS
HEARING IS WE ARE GOVERNMENT
ENABLED AND PRIVATE SECTOR LED,
AND THAT IS THE MENTALITY WE
TAKE ACROSS THE BOARD WHERE WE
SORT OF FIT IN THE SPECTRUM IS,
IF YOU THINK ABOUT DEPARTMENT OF
ENERGY, WE HAVE RESEARCH
PROGRAMS IN THE LABS, YOU KNOW
TO, YOU KNOW, ONE OF WHICH WAS
YEARS IN CALIFORNIA AT LAWRENCE,
BERKELEY. WE THEN YOU KNOW HAVE
FROM RESEARCH. WE MOVED TO
DEVELOPMENT AND DEPLOYMENT AND A
LOT OF THIS STUFF AND SAID, IS
WHAT WE CALL DEPLOYMENT STUFF
THAT'S READY TO TEST AND THEN
THERE'S WHAT'S COMMERCIAL. SO WE
ARE SORT OF THE BEGINNING THE
FIRST FRONTIER OF WHAT'S
COMMERCIAL. SO IF YOU LOOK AT
SOLAR AND WIND TODAY, THOSE
PROJECTS GENERALLY AREN'T
FINANCED BY US BECAUSE BANKS ARE
VERY COMFORTABLE. FINANCING
SOLAR AND WIND PROJECTS, WHEREAS
THERE COULD BE GREEN HYDROGEN
PROJECTS. THERE CAN BE CRITICAL
MINERALS PROJECTS, ELECTRIC
VEHICLE BATTERY MANUFACTURING
PROJECTS, ALL OF WHICH ARE
TECHNOLOGY VIABLE, BUT NO ONE IN
THE PRIVATE SECTOR IS REALLY
FINANCED THEM IN MASS SCALE, SO
THERE'S STILL SOME HESITATION ON
IN THE FINANCING COMMUNITY.
THAT'S WHERE WE SORT OF STEP
INTO BRIDGE THE GAP. UM AND
THAT'S SORT OF BEEN LPS SWEET
SPOT, AND THAT'S SORT OF WHERE
WE'VE BEEN WORKING NOW, IN THE
CONTEXT OF WHERE WE SORT OF FIT
INTO THE IRA, YOU KNOW THE I R A
THE BILL AND THE CHIPS ARE
REALLY WHAT WE CALL IS BROAD
INDUSTRIAL STRATEGY, AND WE'VE
REALLY BEEN TRYING TO WORK WITH
ORGANIZATIONS IN DC TO THINK
THROUGH, LIKE WHAT IS INDUSTRIAL
STRATEGY. HOW DOES A LOAN
PROGRAM PLAY A ROLE IN IT? AND
YOU KNOW, WE WORK CLOSELY WITH
THE PROFESSOR ANDREW REAMER, WHO
SORT OF DESCRIBES INDUSTRIAL
STRATEGY AS THE EFFICIENT USE OF
PUBLIC AND PRIVATE RESOURCES TO
ESTABLISH RELIABLE SUPPLY
CHAINS. TRANSITION TO A CLEAN
ENERGY ECONOMY WHILE MAINTAINING
AFFORDABLE ABILITY AND
RELIABILITY AND EQUITABLE
DISTRIBUTION OF BENEFITS AND
BURDENS. AND I THINK THAT'S JUST
A PROFESSORIAL WAY TO BASICALLY
SAY WHAT THESE FOLKS HAVE JUST
TOLD US IN TERMS OF WHAT OUR
GOALS ARE, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE
SORT OF SEE IS LIKE A CLEAN,
CLEAN ENERGY INDUSTRIAL
STRATEGY. AND REALLY FOR THIS,
YOU KNOW, THIS STRATEGY IS LIKE
NOT NEW. IT'S BEEN DONE
THROUGHOUT AMERICAN HISTORY AND
VARIOUS OTHER FORMS. WHETHER
IT'S THE RAILROADS IN THE 18
SIXTIES, THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY
SYSTEM IN THE 19 FIFTIES UM AND
REALLY RL POS AUTHORITY FROM THE
BIPARTISAN INFRASTRUCTURAL LAW
AND THE INFLATION REDUCTION ACT
HAS REALLY LED TO INVESTMENTS
THAT EXEMPLIFY THIS INDUSTRIAL
STRATEGY. AND IS LEADING THE
TRANSITION TO A CLEAN ENERGY
ECONOMY. SO JUST A COUPLE
EXAMPLES IN TERMS OF WHAT WE ARE
DOING WHAT WE'VE DONE SINCE THE
IRA'S PAST, WE HAVE GIVEN OUT
13.5 BILLION CONDITIONAL
COMMITMENTS ACROSS BLUE OVAL
COURSE. L LINK LIFECYCLE REBEL
MATERIALS. THESE PROJECTS WORK
ACROSS ELECTRIC VEHICLES,
STATIONARY STORAGE SUPPLY
BATTERIES, AND THEY'RE ALL SORT
OF IMPORTANT STEPS TOWARDS ON
SHORING. AND REASSURING NEXT
GENERATION ZERO EMISSIONS
MANUFACTURING UNITED STATES. AND
YOU KNOW THOSE THOSE ARE THE
TYPES OF PROJECTS THAT WE'RE
LOOKING TO WORK WITH. NOW IN
CALIFORNIA. SPECIFICALLY WE
THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO
PARTNER BOTH HERE AND IN STATES
ACROSS THE COUNTRY, AND YOU KNOW
AS A PART OF INDUSTRIAL STRATEGY
AND TO BE SUCCESSFUL, IT NEEDS
TO BE DEVELOPED AND IMPLEMENTED
COLLABORATIVELY COLLABORATIVELY
ACROSS GOVERNMENTS, THE PRIVATE
SECTOR AND NONPROFITS, AND
THAT'S SORT OF WHAT WE'RE DOING
HERE TODAY. NOW OUR EXAMPLE OF
THAT COLLABORATION IS A PROGRAM
THAT WE CALL THE STATE ENERGY
FINANCING INSTITUTION PROGRAM.
AND YOU KNOW, BEFORE I GO INTO
IT, UM YOUR COLLEAGUES HERE AT
THE STATE HAVE BEEN PHENOMENAL
TO WORK WITH, AND OVER THE PAST
FEW MONTHS, WE'VE REALLY BEEN
WORKING HARD TO STAND UP STATE
ENERGY FINANCING INSTITUTIONS IN
CALIFORNIA AND ACROSS THE
COUNTRY. SO WE'RE WORKING. YOU
KNOW, IN ALASKA IN THE NORTH
EAST IN THE MIDWEST TO REALLY
ESTABLISH THESE ALL ACROSS THE
COUNTRY. NOW WHAT THE STATE
ENERGY FINANCING INSTITUTION
PROGRAM DOES IS IT? AGENCIES
STATE AGENCIES THAT ARE
IDENTIFIED AS STATE ENERGY
FINANCING INSTITUTIONS. ARE. ARE
ABLE TO BASICALLY HAVE THE
AUTHORITY WHERE WHEN, WHEN A
PROJECT DEVELOPER USES MONEY
FROM THESE SELFIES WHAT WE CALL
THEM AND THEN THEY APPLY FOR A
LOAN IN OUR PROGRAM. IT WAVES
ONE OF OUR MOST ONEROUS
REQUIREMENTS, WHICH IS THE
INNOVATION REQUIREMENT. SO WE
HAVE MANY PROJECT DEVELOPERS
THAT WANT TO USE OUR PROGRAM.
BUT YOU KNOW, THEY'RE PROJECT
MAY NOT BE CONSIDERED QUOTE
UNQUOTE INNOVATIVE ENOUGH, BUT
STILL IMPORTANT FOR
INFRASTRUCTURE DECARBONIZATION
GOALS, EQUITY GOALS THAT WE ALL
TALK ABOUT. SO FOR EXAMPLE, YOU
KNOW OF A PROJECT DEVELOPER WAS
LIKE WE WANT TO BUILD LARGE
SCALE DISTRIBUTED STORAGE AND WE
HAVE LIKE A GRANT FROM THE C E
C. BACON THEN COME TO US WITH
THAT GRANT, BE LIKE WE HAVE THIS
GRANT FROM THE C E. C. WE DON'T
HAVE TO GO THROUGH YOUR
INNOVATION PROCESS. WE CAN GET A
LOAN FROM THE LPO. AND THEN
SOMEONE CAN YOU KNOW SO THEY CAN
GO GET EQUITY FROM EITHER THEIR
COMPANY OR PRIVATE INVESTOR AND
THEY CAN BUILD A CAPITAL STACK
FOR A PROJECT. IT'S A LITTLE
WONKY, BUT FROM A PROJECT
FINANCE PERSPECTIVE, IT'S REALLY
POWERFUL, AND IT'S AN AN IDEAL
WAY. WE'RE SORT OF THE STATE AND
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CAN PARTNER
TOGETHER. SO PART OF WHAT I AM
HERE TODAY, AND WHY I'VE BEEN
SORT OF WORKING WITH WITH YOU.
ALL HERE IN CALIFORNIA IS REALLY
DEFINED. YOU KNOW, PLACES BOAT
AT THE STATE LEVEL AND WITH
DEVELOPERS WHERE WE CAN FIND
THOSE TYPES OF PROJECTS AND
REALLY ALLOW DEVELOPERS IN THE
STATE TO ACCESS THAT CAPITAL. IN
TERMS OF ACTION FOR CALIFORNIA,
I THINK FIRST OFF, I THINK THE
STATE IS TAKING ALL THE STEPS
NEEDED TO ENGAGE IN THIS PROCESS
TO REALLY WORK WITH PROJECT
DEVELOPERS AND TO FIND THESE
PROJECT OPPORTUNITIES, AND WE'RE
GOING TO CONTINUE TO NEED TO DO
THAT COORDINATION OVER THE NEXT
YOU KNOW, 12 TO 18 TO 24 MONTHS
AS AS THE PROGRAM'S RAMP UP AS
PEOPLE START TO USE THE TAX
CREDITS. AH AND IF THERE ARE
SPECIFIC PARTS OF MONEY THAT THE
STATE WANTS TO IDENTIFY TO THAT
CAN WORK SPECIFICALLY WITH OUR
PROGRAMS LIKE WE'RE ALWAYS OPEN,
HAVING THAT DISCUSSION AND
FIGURING OUT WHAT WORKS AND WHAT
DOESN'T WORK AND YOU KNOW THERE
ARE OTHER STATES THAT ARE
PONDERING VERY SIMILAR
APPROACHES. SO I THINK THERE'S A
LOT OF OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO
WORK TOGETHER. AND I THINK YOU
KNOW OUR PROGRAM IS VERY UNIQUE
IN THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF THE
PROGRAMS ARE UP AND RUNNING.
WE'VE BEEN AROUND FOR ALMOST TWO
DECADES NOW. SO WE HAVE A
PIPELINE OF APPLICATIONS. WE
HAVE OVER $130 BILLION IN
APPLICATIONS IN OUR PIPELINE AND
OVER 150 APPLICATIONS AS OF JULY
, SO WE SORT OF SEE WHAT'S
COMING DOWN THE PIPELINE, AND WE
SORT OF HAVE OUR PROCESSES IN
PLACE TO GET PROJECTS APPROVED.
SO SINCE WE'RE UP AND RUNNING
LIKE, YOU KNOW, OUR MESSAGES
WERE OPEN FOR BUSINESS, AND
WE'RE HERE TO WORK WITH YOU ALL.
SO AGAIN, THANK YOU TO EVERYONE
IN THE STATE. GAIL TYSON
GOVERNOR'S OFFICE TEAM HAS BEEN
GREAT. YOU GUYS THE LEGISLATURE
HAVE ENGAGED CARBS. EEC BANK
TREATY GROWTH COUNCIL, UM,
HOUSING SERVICES TREASURER'S
OFFICE. WE'VE REALLY LIKE ALL
ACROSS THE BOARD. EVERYONE'S
BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH US, SO
IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME TO
GET THERE ALL THE WAY PART OF IT
BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHERE THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WE'RE
DEVELOPING GUIDANCE AS WE MOVE
ACROSS, SO YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING
TO DO OUR BEST TO BE AS QUICK AS
POSSIBLE HERE, BUT, UM, BUT,
YEAH, THANK YOU FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY, AND I'M LOOKING
FORWARD TO THE DISCUSSION. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. TURNOVER TO
MEMBERS LIKE SENATOR BLAKE SPEAR
MIGHT HAVE A INITIAL QUESTION.
WELCOME OKAY. THANK YOU. WELL,
FIRST I WANT TO THANK THE CHAIR
AND VICE CHAIR FOR HAVING THIS
COMMITTEE. UM AND THIS IS THE
ONLY CLIMATE RELATED COMMITTEE
THAT I'M ON. AND SO I WAS
GRATEFUL TO BE INVITED TO
PARTICIPATE, AND I THINK IT'S
VERY IMPORTANT. AND SO I JUST
WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR
HOSTING THIS TODAY. AND THEN
SPECIFICALLY, THANK YOU TO ALL
OF YOU FOR COMING AND SPEAKING
ABOUT YOUR PARTICULAR AREAS
THERE. THERE IS A LOT TO COVER,
AND SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE TWO
MAIN POINTS AND QUESTIONS UH,
AND SOME OF THE THINGS MAYBE I
WON'T TOUCH ON AT ALL. BUT THERE
ARE VERY VALUABLE AND I'M GLAD
THAT YOU CAME AND SHARED THAT.
UM, SO THE FIRST ONE IS THAT I
WOULD REALLY LIKE US TO AND HAVE
BEEN PROMOTING THE IDEA OF US
BEING MORE CONSCIOUS ABOUT OUR
FOOTPRINT AT THE STATE CAPITOL
ITSELF. SO IN THE LEGISLATURE
AND THE GOVERNOR WHEN WE'RE
THINKING ABOUT ALL OF THESE VERY
AMBITIOUS GOALS THAT WE HAVE,
WHICH WE HAVE SET, AND WE EXPECT
THE PRIVATE AND PUBLIC SECTOR TO
GET TO YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING
AT SPECIFICALLY LIKE OUR FLEET
AND THE EMISSIONS THAT COME FROM
OUR FLEET AND WE LOOK AT OUR
COMPLIANCE WITH SP 13 83 AND THE
ORGANICS. UM THE NEED FOR US TO
BE MANAGING OUR FOOD WASTE AND
ARE GREEN WASTE. WE LOOK AT OUR
RECYCLING GOALS AND THE REALITY
IS THAT WE HAVE CONFERENCE ROOMS
IN THIS BUILDING THAT DON'T HAVE
ANY RECYCLING CONTAINERS IN THEM
AT ALL. UM AND WE LOOK AT OUR
OWN ENERGY USE IN OUR BUILDINGS
HERE, UM, AND ARE SINGLE USE
PLASTICS, YOU KNOW, EVEN LIKE AT
A CLIMATE HEARING THAT WE WOULD
HAVE UH, SINGLE USE PLASTIC THAT
TAKES MORE THAN 1000 YEARS TO
DEGRADE. I WOULD LIKE US TO HAVE
A CULTURE WHERE WE BRING OUR
REUSABLE COFFEE MUGS AND THAT
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE
MESSAGING AS A VALUE BECAUSE
ESSENTIALLY, IT'S US WALKING OUR
TALK. AND SO I THINK IT'S
IMPORTANT, MISS MILLER THAT YOU
DID SAY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE
CALIFORNIA GOES, EVERYONE
FOLLOWS AND WHAT WE'RE SHOWING
BY HOW OUR PRACTICES ARE. WE'RE
REALLY NOT WALKING. OUR TALK
RIGHT NOW AND AS A NEW
LEGISLATOR HERE JUST FOR EIGHT
MONTHS, I FOUND I HAVE FOUND
THAT TO BE DISCOURAGING, AND
I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT AND
TRYING TO SOCIALIZE IT, BUT IT'S
NOT KIND OF HAPPENING
ORGANICALLY, BUT I THINK WHAT'S
IMPORTANT TO NOTE IS THAT THE
THERE ARE A LOT OF EXAMPLES OF
GOVERNMENT SECTOR AND PRIVATE
COMPANIES THAT ARE ALREADY DOING
THIS. THEY'RE OWNING THEIR
ENVIRONMENTAL MESSAGE. AND
TALKING ABOUT IT AND HAVING
CLIMATE ACTION AMBASSADOR A
GREEN TEAM A, UM YOU KNOW ANY
NUMBER OF THINGS THAT CAN
PROVIDE LEADERSHIP FOR THIS AT
THE STATE LEVEL, SO I'D REALLY
LIKE TO HAVE US THINK ABOUT
DOING BETTER WHEN IT COMES TO
OUR OWN STATE CAPITAL FOOTPRINT
AND THAT AND I THINK OF THAT, AS
THE SENATE ASSEMBLY AND THE
GOVERNOR'S OFFICE. IDEALLY ALL
WORKING TOGETHER TO SAY THIS IS
A VALUE AND WE'RE GOING TO LIVE
IT AND WE'RE GOING TO MESSAGE IT
AND WE'RE GOING TO TELL YOU WHY
IT'S IMPORTANT. UM SO AND I ALSO
JUST SAY THAT THERE ARE ALWAYS
THESE ISSUES ABOUT GENERAL
SERVICES AND WE ARE COMPLYING
WITH THE LAW LIKE OUR GAS LEAF
BLOWERS THAT WE USE AT THE
CAPITOL. WE CAN CONTINUE USING
THOSE UNTIL THEY DIE. BUT THE
PRIVATE MARKET IS PROVIDED VERY
GOOD ALTERNATIVES THAT ARE COST
EFFECTIVE AND THAT DO NOT CREATE
THE POLLUTION THAT GAS DOES THAT
USING GAS DOES AS WE KNOW FOR A
REQUALIFY PURPOSES AND EVERY
PURPOSE AND IN SOME WAYS IT IT
JUST TAKES A LITTLE BIT OF THAT
WILL TO SAY WE KNOW THAT WE
COULD KEEP DOING THIS UNDER THE
LAW FOR ANOTHER TWO YEARS, BUT
WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THE
TRANSITION NOW AND THE SAME
THING I THINK SHOULD BE
HAPPENING WITH OUR FLEETS
BECAUSE THERE ARE CARS THAT ARE
BEING REPLACED AT ALL TIMES, AND
WE ARE ASKING THE PUBLIC AND
PRIVATE SECTOR DO IT. WE SHOULD
DO IT OURSELVES, SO I JUST WANT
TO PUT THAT OUT THERE AND I I'M
HAPPY TO HAVE ANY RESPONSES IF
YOU WANT TO ANYONE WANTS TO SAY
ANYTHING. YEAH I THINK THOSE ARE
ALL GREAT POINTS ACTUALLY GET
BACK TO YOU ON THE IDEA. SOME OF
AS YOU POINT OUT, ESPECIALLY THE
FOOTPRINT OF THIS BUILDING IS
ASSEMBLY AND SENATE RULES. AND
WE ARE TENANTS OF YOUR BUILDINGS
AND GRATEFUL FOR THAT. SO I
WOULD LOVE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT
MORE ABOUT HOW TO REALLY CREATE
THAT TYPE OF COLLABORATION. AND
IN TERMS OF YOUR RIGHT. I THINK
THE STATE DOES COMPLY. HOW AND
WHEN WE GET FURTHER AHEAD IS
SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO
GET BACK TO YOU ON. SOME OF
THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, THE CLEAN
FLEETS. WE WERE PROGRAMMED TO DO
THAT FASTER. AND THEN WITH THE
BUDGET SHORTFALL THAT WAS ONE OF
THE NEGOTIATED CHANGES WITHIN
THE LEGISLATURE THAT THAT IS
GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE
DELAYED AS OTHER PRIORITIES CAME
UP WITH A LITTLE BIT OF A
DEFICIT, SO I THINK THERE'S
ABSOLUTELY I AGREE THAT WE COULD
SET A BETTER EXAMPLE AND DO MORE
ON THAT. AND WITH SINCERELY LIKE
TO COLLABORATE ON THAT. I THINK
THE GOVERNOR HAS BEEN VERY
COMMITTED TO TALKING THE TALK
AND WALKING THE WALK. DID YOU
WANT TO SAY? YEAH IT'S OKAY.
OKAY JUST OKAY. UM AND THEN MY
SECOND POINT WAS YOU MENTIONED
THE TRANSPORTATION STRIKE. UH
NETWORK AND I THINK WE KNOW
THAT'S THE LARGEST GENERATOR OF
EMISSIONS. AND SO THE REALITY OF
OUR CLIMATE POLICY IS BEING VERY
MUCH RELATED TO LAND USE
POLICIES, HOUSING AND
TRANSPORTATION GO TOGETHER AND
SO INVESTING IN OUR TRANSIT AND
PARTICULARLY OUR TRAIN NETWORK,
I THINK IS SO IMPORTANT AND IN
MANY WAYS WE HAVE SO MANY
PRIORITIES UP HERE AT THE
CAPITOL AND IT IT CAN BE HARD TO
ELEVATE ANYONE OVER OTHERS AT
TIMES, BUT BUT I AM RUNNING A
SUBCOMMITTEE ON THE LOW SAND
RAIL CORRIDOR, WHICH IS THE
EXISTING 350 MILES THAT GOES
FROM ST LOUIS. SERVICE PHOTO SAN
DIEGO ALONG THE COAST. A LOT OF
IT ALONG THE COAST NOT
EXCLUSIVELY, BUT THE SECTIONS
ALONG THE COAST. PARTS OF THEM
ARE VULNERABLE TO SEA LEVEL,
RISE AND BLOOD FAILURE AND OTHER
CLIMATE RELATED THINGS. AND BUT
WE HAVE INVESTED BILLIONS OF
DOLLARS IN THIS RAIL CORRIDOR.
AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT OTHER
PLACES LIKE IN EUROPE AND IN
JAPAN AND EVEN OTHER PLACES LIKE
THE NORTHEAST CORRIDOR THAT ARE
REALLY DOING TRANSIT BETTER.
CALIFORNIA COULD BE A LEADER IN
THIS AREA, BUT IT TAKES THAT
WILL AND SO I JUST WANT TO PUT,
YOU KNOW, PUT OUT THERE THAT
THAT WE HAVE. THERE'S SO MUCH
POTENTIAL FOR GROWTH IN TRANSIT
AND PETE. THERE'S A HUNGER FOR
IT. PEOPLE WANT TO BE ABLE TO
TAKE A TRAIN AND GO PLACES THEY
NEED TO GO. BUT WE HAVE TO MAKE
THOSE INVESTMENTS IN THE
INFRASTRUCTURE, SO I KNOW
THERE'S A LOT OF LEVERAGING. OF
THE FEDERAL MONEY THAT'S
AVAILABLE AND I HOPE THAT WE'RE
POSITIONING OURSELVES AROUND
PARTICULARLY TRANSIT AND OUR
TRAIN NETWORK TO ACCESS THAT FOR
CALIFORNIA. SO THOSE ARE MY TWO
COMMENTS. VICE CHAIR. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. FEW COMMENTS AND
WELCOME TO CENTER. ALLEN WILL
TURN IT TO YOU NEXT. AS WE LOOK
TO MAXIMIZE THE USE OF THE IRA.
DOES THE ADMINISTRATION HAVE A
SINGLE POINT OF CONTACT THAT
FOLKS CAN ACCESS FOR THE I R A
WITHIN THE STATE GOVERNMENT. YES
I'M THE POINT OF CONTACT,
ALTHOUGH AGAIN, THIS IS REALLY
AN ALL OF GOVERNMENT APPROACH.
SO AS HOPEFULLY YOU KNOW, FROM
FROM OUR CONVERSATIONS. WHEN I'M
CONTACTED, I'LL GET YOU AN
ANSWER. I WILL NOT HAVE EVERY
ANSWER BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE THE
LEVEL OF COMPLICATION. BUT WE
ARE AND I HOPEFULLY WHAT YOU'LL
START TO SEE IS MULTIFOLD IN
TERMS OF WHEN THESE DASHBOARDS
ARE UP, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT GIVE
UPS IS WORKING ON TO MAKE SURE
THAT THAT YOU CAN SEE WHAT WE'RE
DOING MORE IN REAL TIME. YOU
SHOULD START TO HAVE SOME OF
YOUR QUESTIONS MORE READILY
ANSWERED. I THINK WHAT MR
ECKERSLEY TALKED ABOUT IN TERMS
OF REALLY ALL OF OBVIOUSLY THE
STATE OPPORTUNITIES WERE CLEARER
ON ITS SOME OF THESE OTHER
OPPORTUNITIES WHERE WE CAN
COLLABORATE WITH LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS THAT THAT WE
PROBABLY DO NEED SOME SUPPORT
FROM YOU ON JUST TO MAKE SURE
THAT THAT WE'RE ACCESSING THOSE
AND SUPPORTING YOUR LOCAL
COMMUNITIES. RAIL IS A GOOD
EXAMPLE OF THAT. SO THAT IS
THAT'S OUR GOAL, AND MY GOAL IS
TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WE REALLY
GET YOUR QUESTIONS ANSWERED. BUT
AGAIN, IT'S PRACTICALLY EVERY
STATE AGENCY IS WORKING ON THIS
IN SOME WAY, SO IF YOU WILL JUST
NEED A LITTLE BIT OF PATIENTS TO
MAKE SURE WE GET THE ANSWERS,
BUT YOU'LL ALSO START TO SEE
SOME BIGGER PROOF POINTS IN
TERMS OF HOW THE FUNDING IS
FLOWING. GREAT IS THE
ADMINISTRATION CURRENTLY
CONDUCTING OUTREACH ACTIVITIES
TO SPREAD THE WORD ON THE IRA
TAX CREDITS, AND WE'RE NOT. I
MEAN, THE I THINK THAT'S A
REALLY GREAT QUESTION FOR YOUR
NEXT PANEL. WE DO THINK THAT THE
WE ARE WE KNOW AND I AND THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TREASURY OR
TRACKING EVERYONE THAT IS
ELIGIBLE. I THINK THAT THE
DIRECT PAY TAX CREDITS AND THE
ABILITY TO SELL THEM NOW I THINK
THEY HAVE MADE SOME CHANGES AT
THE FEDERAL LEVEL THAT MAKE THEM
MORE ACCESSIBLE. UM MR O'CONNOR
FROM WILSON SONSINI NOT TO PUT
YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT I THINK
KNOWS A LOT ABOUT THE TAX
CREDITS, SO I'M NOT SURE WE HAVE
DONE CERTAINLY THAT IS WE THINK
THAT'S THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. IN SOME
WAYS, WE HAVE A LOT OF
OPPORTUNITIES TO COLLABORATE AND
WORK WITH PEOPLE. BUT IT'S NOT
SOMETHING THAT THE STATE HAS ANY
ABILITY EVEN TO ANSWER QUESTIONS
ON SO EARLY ON. WE WORKED WITH
JOHN PODESTA AND HIS TEAM AND
JENNY ELLEN AND HER TEAM IN
TERMS OF WHAT A MORE EFFICIENT
TAX CREDIT WOULD LOOK LIKE AND
WE WORKED WITH COMPANIES IN
CALIFORNIA ON THIS EXAMPLE OF
DIRECT PAY AND TRANSFERABILITY
AND SAIL ABILITIES. SO THOSE ARE
THE PIECES THAT WERE REALLY
WORKING WITH, BUT WE DO RELY.
THIS IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE WHERE
WE RELY ON THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO
BE ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF
THOSE JUST RELATED QUESTIONS. SO
MAYBE WE CAN ALSO FOLLOW UP
WOULD BE A SIDE FROM REACH. WHAT
ELSE CAN WE BE DOING TO MAXIMIZE
IS USED IN THESE TAX CREDIT.
AGAIN I THINK THE THING WE CAN
DO BETTER, AND THIS IS WHERE I
THINK THERE'S THREE LEGGED
STOOLS SO THAT TAX CREDITS ARE
THE FIRST STEP. BUT THEN I THINK
THE CHEF I PROGRAM THAT MR PAUL
WAS REFERRING TO WHERE IF YOU
HAVE A TAX CREDIT AND ANY TYPE
OF FIRST LOSS PROGRAM MONEY FROM
THE STATE WHETHER THAT'S FROM A
GRANT OR A LOAN FROM THE
CALIFORNIA ENERGY COMMISSION OR
THE TREASURER'S OFFICE OR EVEN
THE I BANK. THAT SO THAT'S
MONEY, THEN FROM THE STATE, SO
NOW WE HAVE TWO PIECES OF THAT
CAPITAL STACK, PLUS THE PRIVATE
INVESTMENT AND THEN THE THIRD
PIECE SHOULD BE AT A MORE
SEAMLESS OPPORTUNITY AT THE LOAN
PROGRAM OFFICE, SO THAT'S REALLY
WHERE WE'RE DIGGING DIGGING IN.
WE'RE GOING THROUGH AND ANYONE
THAT'S RECEIVED STATE FUNDING
BECAUSE IT UNLOCKS THE LOAN
PROGRAM OFFICE. WE'RE TRYING TO
ENCOURAGE THEM TO GO THROUGH
THEIR UNDERWRITING PROGRAM IN
ORDER TO QUALIFY FOR FEDERAL
FINANCING, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE
WE THINK THE BIGGEST OPPORTUNITY
IS RATHER THAN JUST THE PRIVATE
SECTOR. THE OTHER PIECE OF THIS
THAT'S SUPER IMPORTANT WHEN WE
TALK ABOUT CLEAN FLEETS. FOR
EXAMPLE, THERE'S A DRAINAGE
COMPANY SO THEY HAVE UNLOCKED
ALL THIS LOW CARBON FUEL
STANDARD FUNDING TO TRY AND
CLEAN UP DRAINAGE IN THE STATE,
WHICH REDUCES THEIR COSTS BY 70.
SO PART OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO
DO WITH THE LOAN PROGRAM OFFICES
ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT WHICH
PARTS OF THE FINANCIAL
INCENTIVES IN THE STATE
QUALIFIED UNLOCK THE FEDERAL
FUNDING. SO THAT'S WHERE WE SEE
OUR ROLE AS MOST EFFECTIVE IS
LEVERAGING WHAT WE'RE DOING AT
THE STATE WITH THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT, AND WE'RE ASSUMING
THAT'S ON TOP OF THE TAX CREDITS
BUT AGAIN OPEN TO FEEDBACK ON
THAT, BUT THAT'S THAT'S BEEN OUR
OPERATING ASSUMPTION ON THIS.
LET'S KEEP IN TOUCH ON THAT.
FINAL QUESTION FOR NOW, GIVEN
ALL THE FUNDING AVAILABLE WITH
THE IRA, HOW DOES THIS CHANGE
ADMINISTRATION'S APPROACH TO,
FOR EXAMPLE, ACCELERATING
PRODUCT ADDED ADOPTION. BUILDING
RENEWABLE GRID. ETCETERA ARE
THEIR PERCEIVED GAPS WITHIN THE
IRA FUNDING THAT THE
ADMINISTRATION IS FOCUSING. YOUR
EFFORTS ON WE'RE NOT
ACCELERATING ANYMORE THAN WE
HAVE IN TERMS OF OUR GOALS ARE
AMONG THE MOST AMBITIOUS AND THE
COUNTRY. WE ARE VERY FOCUSED NOW
ON WHAT IT TAKES TO BUILD OUT
OUR GRID TO MEET THE E V GOALS.
WE ARE REALLY CREATING MANY
ECONOMIES FOR EVERY ONE OF THESE
PIECES. SO CLEAN FLEETS, FOR
EXAMPLE. THE TVS, TV
INFRASTRUCTURE, SO WE ARE
FOCUSING ON ON THE
IMPLEMENTATION AND WHAT IT TAKES
IN TERMS OF THE GAPS. I THINK
NEXT DOOR OR DOWNSTAIRS, THEY'RE
TALKING ABOUT THESE VARIOUS
ISSUES ON ENERGY PRODUCTION AND
RELIABILITY FOR THE FIRST TIME
REALLY, EVER IN CALIFORNIA. SO
JUST 30. SECONDS ON, YOU KNOW,
WE HAVE FERC AT THE FEDERAL
LEVEL AND THEN CASE SO THE
CALIFORNIA INDEPENDENT SYSTEM
OPERATOR WHO REALLY RELIES ON
THESE TARIFFS IN ORDER TO FIGURE
OUT WHAT THEIR QUÊ IS AND WHERE
THOSE INTERCONNECTIONS ARE THAT
EVERYONE NEEDS. AND THEN THE PUC
THAT SECURES POWER AND SETS
RATES. AND THEN THE C E. C AND I
HATE WE'RE TALKING IN ACRONYMS.
I APOLOGIZE. THE ENERGY
COMMISSION WHO REALLY IS FUNDING
SOME OF THAT. SO FOR THE FIRST
TIME EVER, WE HAVE FOR THE LAST
2.5 YEARS HAD A MEMORY OF
UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN THREE
REALLY INDEPENDENT AGENCIES AND
HOW NOW WE CAN BRING THAT ENTIRE
SYSTEM TOGETHER, SO IT'S NOT
SEPARATE. SO WHAT YOU'LL START
TO SEE IS OBVIOUSLY GREATER
PROCUREMENT COMING FROM THE PUC
. YOU'LL START TO SEE A LOT OF
DIFFERENT RATE CASES. SO WHAT
THAT WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE TO
BUILD THE INFRASTRUCTURE? AND I
THINK THOSE ARE CHALLENGES THAT
ARE NOT UNIQUE TO CALIFORNIA,
BUT ARE CERTAINLY CHALLENGES WE
SEE IN TERMS OF IMPLEMENTING AND
MAXIMIZING THE IRA. I THINK SOME
OF THE BIGGEST OBSTACLES WILL BE
WILL BE OUR GRID, AND THEN WE'LL
ALSO BE THE PIECE. I THINK WE'RE
DOING REALLY WELL AT HIS
TRANSPORTATION, AND THAT I THINK
IS A PIECE THAT WE ARE. WE'RE
TRYING TO MATCH UP SO THAT THERE
ARE NO OTHER BARRIERS TO ENTRY
FOR FOLKS TO GET INTO THIS STATE
AND THEN OUR FINAL CHALLENGE AND
, AS THE GOVERNOR SAID, THE
PERMITTING REFORM AS CHALLENGING
AS THAT WAS WAS JUST A DOWN
PAYMENT. WE WILL HAVE TO
CONTINUE TO BUILD FASTER IN
CALIFORNIA. MINDFUL OF
EVERYTHING, MR CONNELLY, YOU
SPOKE ABOUT WILDLIFE PROTECTION.
WETLAND RESTORATION, UM, MAKING
SURE THAT WE KEEP CALIFORNIA'S
PRINCIPLES IN TERMS OF SEQUIN
TACT. RIGHT. THANKS. SENATOR
ALLEN. FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU.
UM AND IT'S YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY
, WE HAD LOTS OF INTENSE
DISCUSSIONS IN THE COURSE OF YOU
MISSED MY OPENING WHERE I WAS SO
HAPPY TO BE HERE IN PARTNERSHIP.
APOLOGIZE I APOLOGIZE. AND LOOK,
I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, WE IT WAS A
CRAZY PROCESS HAPPENED VERY
QUICKLY. AND, YOU KNOW, GOT SOME
PUSHBACK FROM SOME OF SOME OF MY
COLLEAGUES ON YOU KNOW FOR THAT
REASON, BUT YOU KNOW, WE DID IT
BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE
THAT WE'RE ABLE TO AH TO ACCESS
THE FUNDS, AND OBVIOUSLY I
APPRECIATE THE ROBUST DISCUSSION
WE'VE BEEN HAVING SO FAR AND I
THINK WE'RE JUST ALL REALLY
HOPEFUL THAT THIS WILL MAKE A
DIFFERENCE. WE DID MAKE SOME
SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO SOME
BEDROCK ENVIRONMENTAL LAW. AND
UM, YOU KNOW, WE DID IT FOR A
REASON. AND SO YOU KNOW,
WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO MAKE SURE
THAT, UM, WE'RE SUPPORTING YOU
IN GETTING THIS FEDERAL MONEY TO
GET THESE GOOD PROJECTS ONLINE.
WE CERTAINLY WANT TO BE A PART
OF IT. UM SO THAT I KNOW THAT'S
THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE ALL
WORKING ON. I'D LOVED IT. ONE
THING I'D LOVE TO ASK YOU ABOUT
IS WATER INFRASTRUCTURE. YOU
KNOW, WHERE DOES THAT FIT INTO
THE MIX? UM I APOLOGIZE IF YOU
TALKED ABOUT IT WHILE I WAS OUT
OF THE ROOM, BUT WHERE IS THAT
IN THE IN THE IN THE
CONVERSATION RIGHT NOW WITH
WASHINGTON. BECAUSE IT WAS
CERTAINLY PART OF OUR
INFRASTRUCTURE DISCUSSION. IT'S
A BIG PIECE OF OBVIOUSLY ALL
JUST UNDERGIRDS ALL
INFRASTRUCTURE. I THINK WHAT
YOU'LL SEE IN CALIFORNIA, FOR
EXAMPLE, ARE QUICKLY YOU'LL
START TO SEE SOME OF OUR WATER
SUPPLY WATER STORAGE UPDATES TO
THAT PROGRAM, AND THE GOVERNOR
HAS SET A WHOLE BUNCH OF GOALS
YOU'LL SEE MORE AND MORE ABOUT
WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO TO
ACCOMPLISH THOSE, INCLUDING SOME
APPLICATIONS THROUGH THE OFFICE
OF, UM. PLANNING AND RESEARCH TO
MAKE SURE THAT FOR THE
CERTIFICATION THAT 270 DAYS
CERTIFICATION, YOU'LL LIKELY SEE
WATER PROJECTS COMING FIRST IN
TERMS OF GETTING THAT
CERTIFICATION TO GET THEM BUILT
FASTER. SOME OF THE FOR EXAMPLE
, THE YOU KNOW, THERE ARE
EXAMPLES OF CLIMATE TECH IN
TERMS OF THE CELL, WHICH, IF WE
HAVE ANY ANY OIL WELLS THAT HAVE
BEEN RETIRED WHAT WE CAN DO WITH
THE PROCESS THAT'S NOT
DISRUPTIVE TO ACTUALLY CREATE
DIESEL WITHIN THE OCEANS. NOW,
THAT'S NOT A BIG PLANT. SO
YOU'LL START TO SEE MORE AND
MORE IN TERMS OF THE WORK,
CLIMATE, TECH AND INFRASTRUCTURE
MEAT, AND THOSE ARE THE PLACES
THAT WERE REALLY WORKING, SO I
THINK IT'S TWOFOLD. ONE IS HOW
DO WE IMPLEMENT ALL OF THIS
STATE'S GOALS, WHICH INCLUDE
PROJECTS LIKE SITES. AND THAT
WAS IN SP ONE PROJECT THAT'S
REALLY KIND OF MORPH NOW INTO
PART OF SOME OF THE SUPPORT FROM
THE IRA. AND THEN ALSO IN TERMS
OF SUPPLY AND CLEAN DRINKING
WATER, YOU'LL SEE MORE AND MORE
ABOUT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SAW
JUST THIS MORNING ABOUT HOW
WE'RE LOSING ALL OUR
GROUNDWATER, MORE AND MORE ABOUT
HOW CALIFORNIA CAN SUPPORT THE
TECHNOLOGIES THAT ARE WORKING TO
PROVIDE THAT MORE EFFICIENTLY
FOR RECHARGE GROUNDWATER. OKAY,
BECAUSE I WAS SEEING A DOCUMENT
THAT TALKED A LOT ABOUT LEAD
PIPES SERVICE LINE REPLACEMENT
THAT SORT OF THINGS. I ASSUME
THAT'S ALSO PART OF THE STORY TO
YEAH. YEAH, RACHEL A LIST WITH
ELIO JUST TO NOTE. YOU KNOW,
MISS MILLER IS TALKING A LOT
ABOUT SOME OF THE COMPETITIVE
GRANTS AVAILABLE THROUGH THROUGH
THE TWO LAWS. BUT WE ALSO
THROUGH I J A IN PARTICULAR ARE
RECEIVING QUITE A BIT MORE
FORMULA FUNDING FOR CERTAIN
CATEGORIES. TRANSPORTATION IS
ONE BIG ONE. BUT WHAT DRINKING
WATER IS ANOTHER, AND THERE WERE
ALSO SOME CARVE OUTS THERE,
INCLUDING FOR LEAD PIPES AND P
FIRES, YOU KNOW SOME CERTAIN
EMERGING CONTAMINANTS OF
EMERGING CONCERN THAT WE'RE
GOING TO GET US FORMULA
INCREASES, SO WE'RE KIND OF
GUARANTEED AS A STATE TO GET
SOME INCREASES THERE. IN
ADDITION TO SOME OF THESE
COMPETITIVE GRANTS, SO IN THE I
J. A NOT IRA WATER WAS ONE KIND
OF BIG AREA OF INFRASTRUCTURE.
EMPHASIS. SURE, OKAY. I
APPRECIATE IT. I'M CERTAINLY
INTERESTED IN DIALOGUE ON THIS,
AND SO MANY OTHER TOPICS IS
LIKEWISE. AND I JUST CAN'T
EMPHASIZE ENOUGH THAT MR ECKER
LEE'S POINT, MR PAUL'S POINT
LIKE WE THIS HAS TO BE A
PARTNERSHIP IN ORDER TO REALLY
WE DON'T REMAKE OUR ENTIRE
ECONOMY BY 2035 AND THEN 2045.
UNLESS WE'RE DOING IT ALL
TOGETHER, SO REALLY GRATEFUL FOR
EVERYTHING YOU DID TOGETHER TO
THIS POINT. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. YEAH COME ON BACK, I GUESS
JUST IN THE BIGGEST FROM THE
BIGGEST PERSPECTIVE, I WONDER IF
YOU FEEL THAT THE STREAMLINING
THAT WAS DONE THAT WAS JUST DONE
THIS YEAR WAS EFFECTIVE AT BEING
ABLE TO POSITION US FOR SUCCESS
BECAUSE AND I'LL JUST SAY FROM
THE OUTSIDE OF WATCHING IT FROM
WITHIN MY OWN IT DIDN'T IT
SEEMED TO ME LIKE IT WAS MUCH
LESS AMBITIOUS THAN THERE HAD
BEEN THE ORIGINAL HOPE FOR IT TO
BE. AND I WONDER IF THAT IF THAT
IS A PERSPECTIVE THAT THAT YOU
HAVE, OR DO YOU FEEL LIKE THAT?
WHAT DID HAPPEN WAS IMPORTANT
AND WILL MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE.
IT ABSOLUTELY MAKES A
DIFFERENCE. I THINK IT WAS MADE
BETTER WITH THE CONVERSATIONS
WITH THE LEGISLATURE. I THINK WE
HAVE CREATED SYSTEMS THAT WILL
THAT WILL ENDURE AND WE HAVE
SENT A SIGNAL THAT WE NOW HERE.
FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT
THE FACT THAT CALIFORNIA WAS WAS
AMONG THE FIRST STATES IN THE
NATION TO TAKE THIS ON WAS
REALLY SIGNIFICANT. SO SOME OF
IT OBVIOUSLY IS ACTUALLY
BUILDING FASTER, AND I THINK,
MISS SAILORS POINTS. THOSE ARE
THE QUESTIONS YOU SHOULD KEEP
ASKING US OVER THE NEXT DECADE,
AND SOME OF IT REALLY WAS TO
SIGNAL TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS
THAT WE REALLY ARE SERIOUS ABOUT
BUILDING FASTER. I MEAN, I DON'T
KNOW. MR ACKERLEY IF YOU CAN
TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE QUESTIONS
ON THE HYDROGEN HUB, FOR
EXAMPLE, BUT IT REALLY HELPS FOR
FOLKS TO KNOW THAT CALIFORNIA IS
COMMITTED TO BUILDING FASTER.
JUST THE BIGGEST QUESTION IS,
CAN WE GET THE PROJECTS ON THE
GROUND RIGHT? AND THAT YOU KNOW,
FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
PERSPECTIVE, I THINK YOU KNOW,
YOU ASKED ABOUT THE MAXIMIZING
IRA TAX CREDIT. THE BEST THING
WE CAN DO IS ENABLE PROJECTS TO
GET IN THE GROUND TO CAPTURE
THAT THAT FUNDING RIGHT AND SO
IT DOES HAVE A HUGE IMPACT. YOU
KNOW, BOTH SYMBOLIC AND
EFFECTIVELY ON THE GROUND. AND
REALLY, WHAT WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT. IS INVESTORS CERTAINTY IN
THE PERMANENT, WE HEAR THAT A
LOT AT JOB IS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF
LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE NEED
CERTAINTY THAT WE CAN GET THESE
PROJECTS. YES OR NO IS FINE. BUT
IS THE UNCERTAINTY THAT REALLY
KILLS? RIGHT? AND SO THEY, UM
AND THAT'S THAT WAS THE FIRST
STEP. YOU KNOW, THIS 3 MILLION
PACKAGE REALLY HELPED THERE. UM
I'LL WRAP UP WITH JUST TWO
QUESTIONS. AND THEN, UM, I KNOW
YOU'RE VERY BUSY PEOPLE. SO I
APPRECIATE YOUR TIME HERE TODAY
AND STARTED DIGGING DEEP. MHM.
BORING ONE, I GUESS, BUT
IMPORTANT ONE UM. NOT AT A SORT
OF MAYBE A LEGISLATIVE CHANGES
ARE ON THE STREAMLINING
INFRASTRUCTURE SIDE. BUT WHAT
INTERNALLY DO YOU ALL NEED TO
GO? DO YOUR JOBS BETTER? I MEAN
, YOU YOU SORT OF ALLUDED TO GO
BIZ. IT'S ALMOST TOO MUCH TO
TRACK BUT, UM, WE NEED WE NEED
YOU TO CATCH UP SOMEHOW AND GET
AHEAD OF THIS. YOU KNOW, IT
SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE GOING SORT OF
WITH AN AGENCY LEAD DESIGNEE
MODEL. AND BUT YOU KNOW WHAT
I'VE NOTICED, AT LEAST ON MY END
BETWEEN MY COLLEAGUES HERE AND
MY CONGRESSIONAL COUNTERPARTS,
WHERE I TRY TO STAY IN CLOSE
COMMUNICATION WITH IS OFTEN YOU
KNOW, WE'RE NOT WE DON'T FEEL
LIKE WE'RE IN A POSITION TO BE.
THE CHEERLEADERS ARE
COORDINATORS OR CONVENERS THAT
CAN HELP YOU. AND ALSO I THINK
THAT THE EXTRA TIME IT WOULD
TAKE YOU TO DO SOME OF THAT
INTERFACE ALMOST FEELS
INEFFICIENT ON YOUR END, BECAUSE
IT'S LIKE YOU JUST HAVE TO GO
AND GET GOING. AND YOU CAN'T
THINK ABOUT ALL THAT. BUT OFTEN
I THINK IT'S THE COALITION
BEHIND. SOME OF THESE ASKS THAT
ACTUALLY ULTIMATELY WILL GET
GUIDANCE MAGICALLY GOING FASTER
. I MEAN, IF THERE'S ANY FORMULA
I'VE SEEN FROM WASHINGTON THAT
ISN'T SORT OF IN THE MATH OF
SADIE IJ OR THE IRA. IT'S THAT
THE CONDITIONS THEMSELVES FEEL
RIGHT TO GO BIG AND THE INDUSTRY
PARTNER FEELS THAT CONFIDENCE
AND SO BUILDING THAT SORT OF
COLLECTIVE CONFIDENCE IN MAJOR
MULTI BILLION DOLLAR PROJECTS IS
HARD WORK, AND OFTEN IT DOES
REVOLVE INVOLVED THAT SORT OF
SOFT PART OF THINGS THAT THE
POLITICS OF IT, RIGHT, UM BUT
WHAT MORE I GUESS? WHAT MORE CAN
WE DO? A TO VARY INTERNAL LEVEL
, LIKE, MAKE SOME OF THAT CLEAR
SO THAT WE KNOW HOW TO MAP THE
BILLIONS OVER OUR DISTRICTS SO
THAT MEMBERS ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT
COULD BE POSSIBLE IF THEY GOT
TOGETHER WITH THEIR THEIR
FEDERAL COUNTERPARTS AND WORKED
AT IT. WE JUST SAW US SENATOR
PADILLA YESTERDAY IN OUR
CHAMBERS AND WELCOMED HIM, AND I
MEAN HE'S OUR HE'S OUR GUY NOW,
BUT HOW DO WE WRITE? SO HOW DO
WE COORDINATE THERE AND THEN?
BUT REALLY, IT'S JUST AN
ADMINISTRATIVE CAPACITY LEVEL. I
WOULD I WOULD LOVE YOUR
RECOMMENDATIONS OR SUGGESTIONS
AS TO WHAT IS NEEDED JUST FROM A
CAPACITY PERSPECTIVE. IS THAT
THINGS THAT YOU WANT TO SEE IT
DOES GO BUSINESS TO BE BUILT OUT
FURTHER. I KNOW YOU'RE ADDING
CAPACITY IN THE ENERGY SIDE. YOU
SHOULD JUST DO TRANSPORTATION
AND ZEB STUFF. NOW YOU SORT OF
MADE NEW HIRES AND ADDED FOLKS,
BUT JUST CURIOUS FOR SORT OF
YEAH. FOR OUR SELFISH PERSONS.
PURPOSE IS SORT OF UNLOCKING.
YOU KNOW THE COALITION SIDE IF
YOU WILL AND NOT MAKING THAT
JUST YOUR BURDEN TO SOLVE BUT
KIND OF LETTING US HELP WITH
THAT AND THEN JUST FOR
THROUGHPUT. WHAT'S WHAT'S
MISSING. UM YEAH. THE. WE THINK
WE ARE. WE HAVE SUFFICIENT
RESOURCES FROM WITHIN WHAT WE
HAVE APPRECIATE THAT QUESTION.
THOSE SINCERELY AND YOU KNOW,
WE'LL HAVE TO SEE WHAT COMES
THROUGH BETWEEN NOW AND JANUARY
. IN TERMS OF BUDGET CHANGE
PROPOSALS THE GÓMEZ DOES HAVE
AND I'LL LET MR ACTUALLY SPEAK
TO THEIR ENTIRE NEW UNIT, THAT
TASK FORCE AND HOW WE'RE
TRACKING THERE. AND THEN IN
ADDITION, SO EVERYTHING THAT MR
ACTUALLY JUST WENT THROUGH WILL
FEED INTO THE EIGHT LARGE
CATEGORIES THAT WE'RE TRACKING
AS PART OF THE STRIKE TEAM
TRANSPORTATION ENERGIES OF
HYDROGEN AMONG OTHERS WATER AND
MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE WE'RE
STARTING TO SHOW YOU A MAP FOR
YOU WHERE THINGS ARE IN YOUR
DISTRICTS, AND THAT'S HOW WE'LL
REALLY BE IN TO BUILD THOSE
COALITIONS. BUT THAT WILL BE
ITERATIVE. YOU'LL SEE THE
BEGINNING OF THAT. HOPEFULLY,
BEFORE YOU ADJOURN, AND THEN
YOU'LL CONTINUE TO ITERATE ON
THAT, AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE
GOING TO COME TO YOU FOR
PARTNERSHIP AND SEE. SEE WHAT
YOU'RE HEARING IN YOUR DISTRICTS
AND HOW WE CAN DO DO BETTER AT
REALLY THAT THOSE SOFT PIECES OF
MAKING SURE THAT WE GET
REQUESTS, BUT FOR EXAMPLE, WE
HAD WE HAVE A HUGE REQUEST FOR
HIGH SPEED RAIL. MANY OF YOU
REALLY HELPED WITH THAT AND
PARTICIPATED IN TERMS OF THE
APPLICATION TO THE FEDERAL
TRANSPORTATION AGENCY. SAME FOR
A FEW STORAGE PROJECTS THAT
WE'RE SEEING. SO THAT IT IS
RIGHT NOW. I THINK YOUR QUESTION
IS HOW DO WE CREATE MORE
ORGANIZATION AROUND THAT RIGHT
NOW? IT'S MORE CERTAIN IF IT IS
AND BUT I THINK WHAT WE CAN DO
ONCE THESE DASHBOARDS COME OUT
IS TALK ABOUT HOW TO BE A LITTLE
BIT MORE COORDINATED AND
DELIBERATE. WITH WITH YOU AND
MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT
SUPPORT WHEN WE'RE APPLYING FOR
FUNDS. AND WE KNOW YOUR YOUR
BOSS. THIS GOVERNOR IS VERY INTO
SORT OF PERFORMANCE INDICATORS.
AND UH VERY TACTICIAN IN SORT OF
THAT ELEMENT. IS THAT THE KIND
OF STUFF WE'RE GOING TO SEE THAT
IN THIS DASHBOARD OF LIKE THOSE
KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATORS OR
WHATEVER THE NEW SORT OF WAY OF
MEASURING THAT? UM ARE WE GOING
TO SEE I MEAN L A. IT'S SORT OF
TALKED ABOUT. FORGET THE
FREEZING, BUT IT WAS SORT OF
PROJECT DELIVERY TIMELINES.
THINGS LIKE THAT IS THERE. IS
THERE AN INTENT TO SORT OF HOLD
YOURSELF TO SOME, LIKE, PUT SOME
GOALS OUT THERE AND THEN GIVE US
THINGS THAT WE CAN HELP HOLD YOU
TOO, AND SAY WE NEED TO HIT
THAT. THAT'S SORT OF WHAT WE
SHOULD ANTICIPATE. COMING DOWN
THE PIKE. YOU THINK WITH THAT
DASH BORDER IS IT? IS THAT A
LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT? YOU SHOULD
DEFINITELY EXPECT THAT IT'LL
AGAIN WILL BE ITERATIVE, SO
YOU'LL SEE IT THE FIRST ALMOST A
BETA, BUT MAKING SURE THAT YOU
CAN SEE IT. YOU'LL GIVE A SIMPLE
AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO ITERATE
AND IMPROVE ON IT. I DON'T KNOW
THE SAILORS. IF YOU HAVE ANY
ADVICE FOR US TO JUST WOULD
HIGHLIGHT ONE. I'M CERTAINLY NOT
HERE TO ADD. ADVOCATE FOR MORE
STATE STAFF RIGHT NOW, BUT I
THINK ESPECIALLY IN A BUDGET, UM
DEFICIT CONTEXT, BUT I DO THINK
ONE KIND OF BENCHMARK, OR DATA
POINT YOU'RE GONNA WANT TO KEEP
AN EYE ON IS THE PERMITTING
TIMELINES AND TAKING A LOOK AT
OUR THEIR BOTTLENECKS THAT ARE
OCCURRING IN CERTAIN DEPARTMENTS
BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A LOT OF
ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTIONS THAT
ARE VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE WANT
TO BE SURE ARE MAINTAINED. BUT
SOMETIMES THERE COULD BE
CAPACITY ISSUES THAT PARTICULAR
DEPARTMENT ENVIRONMENTAL, RIGHT
. I MEAN, YOU'RE TALKING LOCAL
BUILDING INSPECTORS. THE FIRE
MARSHAL'S CERTIFICATION OF YOU
KNOW, A CHARGING STATION BEING
COMPLIANT WITH WHATEVER THE
LOCAL FIRE SAFETY CODE IS. STATE
ARCHITECT INTERFACES WITH SCHOOL
DISTRICT'S ON SHADE STRUCTURES,
ALL KINDS OF RIGHT AND THE LOCAL
ONES WILL CERTAINLY BE HARDER
FOR YOU ALL TO GET INVOLVED IN,
BUT THE STATE ONES ARE UNDER
YOUR PURVIEW. SO IS IT FISH AND
WILDLIFE? IS IT COASTAL
COMMISSION? IS IT LOCAL REGIONAL
WATER BOARD, WHICH IS A STATE
AGENCY. SO JUST KIND OF KEEPING
AN EYE THERE IF THERE ARE
BOTTLENECKS OR SYNERGIES OR
EFFICIENCIES THAT MAYBE YOU
COULD HELP ENABLE THAT'S A GREAT
POINT. AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE DONE
A MAPPING EXERCISE OF PERMITTING
THAT WILL SHARE WITH THIS
COMMITTEE. JUST YOU CAN START TO
SEE WHERE WE ARE. IN TERMS OF
THAT QUESTION. I THINK ANOTHER
QUESTION AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE
DON'T KNOW HOW TO FIGURE OUT THE
ANSWER, BUT IS FOLKS THAT ARE
NOT APPLYING REDWOOD MATERIALS
IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THIS. THEY
WERE CHOOSING BETWEEN CALIFORNIA
AND NEVADA. THEY WERE DONE WITH
THEIR NEVADA PERMIT. THIS IS NOT
WHAT CALIFORNIA SHOULD DO IN 24
HOURS. SO THE THAT'S AN EXAMPLE
OF A COMPANY THAT THAT LOCATED
IN NEVADA THAT NEVER NEVER EVEN
GOT IN A PROCESS IN CALIFORNIA
BECAUSE OF HOW LONG IT TOOK, SO
THAT WOULD BE THE OTHER
MEASUREMENT. WHERE THE
BOTTLENECKS IN STATE GOVERNMENT
AND WHAT CAN WE DO BETTER
WITHOUT STATUTORY CHANGES? AND
THEN THE FLIP SIDE IS THAT KIND
OF THE BUT FOR CALIFORNIA'S
CERTAIN PARTS OF CALIFORNIA WE
WOULD HAVE LOCATED HERE. YEAH. I
MEAN, I THINK WE'RE OKAY. THE
QUESTION WILL BE WHETHER OUR
COMMITMENT TO THE ENVIRONMENT
EQUITY INTO JOBS RIGHT IS SORT
OF LIKE IT'S NOT JUST THE
THERE'S A BIGGER BOTTOM LINE
THAN JUST THAT. UM WILL WE BE
RECOGNIZED AT A FEDERAL LEVEL AS
COMPETITIVE EVEN IF THEY NEXT
DOOR? NEIGHBORS CAN UNDERCUT US
AND GO VERY FAST. AND YOU KNOW,
WE HAVE RIGHT TO WORK STATES
RIGHT ON OUR BORDER. WE HAVE ALL
KINDS OF QUOTE UNQUOTE
EFFICIENCIES THAT ACTUALLY LEAVE
PEOPLE BEHIND. AND SO MY HOPE IS
THAT WE CAN SHOW AN EXAMPLE OF
HOW WE DO IT THE RIGHT WAY, AND
WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE
MORE IN THE NEXT PANEL. I'D BE
REMISS NOT TO ASK YOU ALL THAT
BEFORE WE WRAP THIS ONE. I JUST
I GUESS, HYPOTHETICALLY, BUT THE
WHEN IT COMES TO MORE INVESTMENT
FROM BOND FINANCING, SO THE
CLEAN ENERGY PIECES OF THE BOND
THERE'S WATER IN IT. A LOT OF
THE TOPICS WE DISCUSSED. UM
WE'RE SITTING HERE WITH JOINT
AUTHORS OF THE SENATE BOND.
WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE
MEASURE. WE ARE HOPING THE
ADMINISTRATION CAN KEEP
ENCOURAGING THE PROCESS JUST HOW
MUCH MORE IF WE HAVE IF WE'RE
NOT JUST RELYING ON GENERAL FUND
, AND WE CAN LEVERAGE PUBLIC
DOLLARS IS THERE ARE THERE MORE
STRATEGIC WAYS THAT WE CAN LOOK
AT THAT? UM AND SORT OF IN
ADVANCE, RIGHT? ORGANIZE IT IN A
WAY THAT WE KNOW OUR PARTNERS AT
THE LPO OFFICE HERE AT D, O E.
OR WE CAN SHOW TAXPAYERS IN
OTHER WORDS AND THE FISCAL HAWKS
WHO NEED TO BE OUT THERE LOOKING
AT DEBT CAPACITY. DOES THE MATH
CHANGE? IN OTHER WORDS, IF A $2
BILLION CLEAN ENERGY FUND IS
REALLY NOT A $2 BILLION CLEAN
ENERGY FUND, BUT INSTEAD OF $50
BILLION CLEAN ENERGY FUND THAT
HAS A DIFFERENT PAYBACK PERIOD
BECAUSE YOU HAVE LEVERAGED A
FEDERAL TAX, CREDIT PRIVATE
CAPITAL AND HOW DOES THAT ADJUST
OR INFORM? I GUESS YOUR MATH AND
THINKING ABOUT HOW BIG WE CAN GO
WITH THIS THING. UM HONESTLY,
WITH THAT. I HAVE TO GET BACK TO
YOU ON THAT. IT'S A GREAT
QUESTION. I THINK SOME OF THE
QUESTIONS FOR US IN TERMS OF THE
QUESTION OF LEVERAGE OUR BIGGEST
LEVERAGE OPPORTUNITY IS WITH THE
PROGRAM AT THE LPO NOT TO PUT MR
PALANDER BUT IT'S SOME OF IT IS
WHAT WILL EXACTLY WILL QUALIFY
ONCE WE KNOW THAT PRECISELY IN
ADDITION TO GRANTS AND WHAT
PERCENTAGE SO HOW MUCH STATE
FUNDS IN ORDER TO LEVERAGE HOW
MUCH AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL ONCE
WE HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF THAT WE
COULD GET BACK TO YOU ON
LEVERAGE. THE ONLY OTHER TRUE
LEVERAGE OPPORTUNITY CURRENTLY
IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA IS
THE CALIFORNIA DEBT LIMIT
ALLOCATION COMMITTEE. A LOT OF
THAT HAS BEEN DEVOTED TO HOUSING
RECENTLY, BUT THOSE ARE ALL TAX
EXEMPT BONDS FOR LARGE SCALE
PROJECTS. SO THAT WOULD BE THE
OTHER QUESTION. WHERE WHERE
LEVERAGE COULD BE A BIG PIECE OF
IT. UM I LEVEL IT'S FAIR TO SAY
THAT, UM BOND FUNDING COULD BE A
SOURCE FOR LEVERAGING MORE
FEDERAL CAPITAL. WHAT THAT
MULTIPLIER EFFECT IS OR HOW IT
AFFECTS PRECISELY THE FISCAL
RIGHT. DON'T QUITE KNOW YET
RIGHT NOW, IN PART BECAUSE WE'RE
STILL WAITING FOR SOME GUIDANCE
AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE
GET THAT GUIDANCE, WE WILL HAVE
A BETTER SENSE. SO, FOR EXAMPLE
, DOES $5 MILLION IN STATE FUNDS
UNLOCK A BILLION DOLLARS IN
FEDERAL FUNDS? OR THOSE ARE THE
TYPES OF QUESTIONS WE DON'T KNOW
YET AND AGAIN. THEY'RE WORKING
AS FAST AS THEY CAN IN
COLLABORATION WITH JUST TO WRAP
THE PANEL. BRING THE SPOTLIGHT
BACK TO YOU, MR PAUL ON THAT
NOTE AND SAY, IF YOU HAVE
INSIGHT ON THAT NOW, WE'D
APPRECIATE IT BUT CERTAINLY
MOVING FORWARD IN THE COMING
MONTHS WERE YOU KNOW WE WE'RE WE
WANT TO BE ATTENTIVE AND NOT
JUST DO POLICY MAKING IN A
VACUUM HERE SO IF THERE ARE
DESIGN PRINCIPLES OR SORT OF
STRUCTURES OF THE FUNDING THAT
YOU THINK AS YOU DEVELOP, THESE
GUIDELINES ARE GOING TO BE, UH,
GIVE US MORE BANG FOR OUR BUCK.
AH, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL
ULTIMATELY HELP US MAKE A BETTER
CASE TO VOTERS THAT THIS IS
SOMETHING WORTH GETTING BEHIND.
AND I THINK GIVE HOPEFULLY OUR
GOVERNOR AND OUR LEGISLATIVE
LEADERS THE INSPIRATION TO GO
BIG HERE AND THAT IT'S GOING TO
PAY ITSELF BACK DIFFERENTLY, SO
NOT TO PUT, YOU KNOW THE STAKES
TOO HIGH, BUT I THINK SOME OF
THOSE DECISIONS WILL HINGE ON
AND SOME OF OUR MATH WILL HINGE
ON WHAT YOU GUYS KICKING THE
TIRES ON HOW OUR STRUCTURES ARE
LOOKING. AND YOU KNOW, CAN WE
GET OTHER THINGS WE NEED TO
CHANGE RIGHT IS THEIR FEEDBACK
INFORMALLY. EVEN THAT SAYS, YOU
KNOW, YOU SHOULD. YOU SHOULD
ACTUALLY BE DESIGNING, YOU KNOW,
BE CLEAR THAT IT NEEDS TO BE IN
THE I BANK HERE. THE C E C NEEDS
THE RIGHT KIND OF MECHANISM TO
DO THEIR CLEAN ENERGY
RELIABILITY, FUNDING OR WHATEVER
IT MAY BE SO THEY'RE PRETTY
FLEXIBLE CATEGORIES RIGHT NOW,
BUT WE DON'T WANT TO SORT OF
JUST DO BOND DRAFTING AND POLICY
MAKING IN A VACUUM, RIGHT? WE
WANT TO LINE IT UP WITH YOU. SO
I'LL LET YOU CLOSE THIS ONE OUT
SO AND THANK YOU A TWO THINGS
ONE WE'RE WORKING ON ON THE
GUIDANCE OF LIKE WHAT WE THINK
MEANINGFULNESS WOULD BE, AND I
DO THINK THERE WILL BE SOME SOME
PROJECTS SPECIFIC. UH UM,
DETERMINATIONS LIKE
MEANINGFULNESS, MAYBE SOMETHING
DIFFERENT FOR DIFFERENT PROJECTS
, BUT I THINK THERE WILL BE SOME
GENERAL GUIDELINES SO YOU'LL BE
ABLE TO REALLY KNOW LIKE YOU
KNOW HOW TO YOU KNOW WHAT TO
EXPECT IN TERMS OF THE CAPITAL
STACK IN TERMS OF ACTUALLY
DESIGNING PROGRAMS, YOU KNOW? WE
WE ARE MORE THAN HAPPY TO HAVE A
DETAILED DISCUSSION WITH ALL OF
YOU ON WHAT WE THINK IS, YOU
KNOW WHERE WE THINK CAN BE MOST
HELPFUL WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN
OTHER STATES, BUT I THINK THE
GENERAL PRINCIPLE IS FLEXIBILITY
AND SPECIFICALLY TECHNOLOGY
FLEXIBILITY AND THAT YOU KNOW,
WE ARE OUR POT OF FINANCING
FUNDS REALLY GOES ACROSS 13
DIFFERENT TECHNOLOGIES. I
BELIEVE THE TOP MAD SO HAVING
YOU KNOW, HAVING FUNDS AVAILABLE
TO WORK WITH OUR PROJECT FINANCE
TOOLS GO ACROSS THOSE
TECHNOLOGIES, I THINK WILL WILL
GIVE YOU GUYS THE MOST
OPPORTUNITY FOR IMPACT. UM AND
YOU KNOW, I THINK IF WE WERE TO
CANVASS THE STATE, I'M SURE
THERE'S PLACES THERE'S PROGRAMS
LIKE THAT. BUT I THINK THAT
WOULD BE LIKE A GENERAL
PRINCIPLE TO START WITH, BUT
WE'RE ALSO HAPPY TO, YOU KNOW,
HAVE THE DISCUSSION OF WHERE WE
THINK, UH, PROJECTS WILL WORK
BEST WITH, YOU KNOW, STATE
FINANCING AND, YOU KNOW, BRING
OUR POTENTIAL APPLICANTS AND
APPLICANTS INTO THE CONVERSATION
AND YOU CAN HEAR FROM THEM MORE
SO THAN EVEN US. SO THAT'S A LOT
OF WHAT OUR POWER IS, LIKE. YOU
KNOW, WE HAVE SO MANY PRIVATE
SECTOR VOICES THAT ARE PART OF
OUR PROGRAM. THAT'S A PERFECT
TRANSITION FOR OUR NEXT PANEL.
WE HAVE SOME OF THOSE VERY
PEOPLE HERE WITH US TODAY. SO
THANK YOU FOR TAKING US UP FOR
DOING THE DILIGENCE AND WE
APPRECIATE YOU ALL BEING HERE.
UM THANK YOU, MR BREWSTER. I
KNOW YOU HAVE A PRIOR
ENGAGEMENT, SO WE DO APPRECIATE
YOUR INPUT HERE. SO I'M CALLING
UP. DON'T WE JUST ALL WE CAN DO
THIS ALL AT ONCE HERE AND WE DO
HAVE A HARD STOP AT NOON, SO
WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BE EFFICIENT
WITH OUR TIME, BUT MARION
BERGSON WITH NATURAL RESOURCES
DEFENSE COUNCIL AGREES WITH HOME
CONNECT HUDSON GILMER WITH LINE
VISION. JEREMY SMITH WITH THE
STATE BUILDING TRADES. AND ZACH
LOU, WITH THE CALIFORNIA GREEN
NEW DEAL COALITION. WE WANT TO
WELCOME YOU ALL AND I'LL LET YOU
GET SETTLED FOR JUST A QUICK
SECOND HERE.
OKAY SO UNLESS ANYONE HAS ANY
OBJECTION, I THINK WE'RE GOING
TO JUST GO IN ORDER OF THE
AGENDA HERE IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT.
I'M LOOKING TO OUR ESTEEMED
PRINCIPAL CONSULTANT HERE. THAT
WORKS, INCIDENTALLY, SHOULD TAKE
A MOMENT AND INTRODUCE MR ZELIN
THIS ROSS ALLEN. HE'S WE'RE
LUCKY ENOUGH TO HAVE ATTRACTED
HIS TALENT TO THE SENATE, AND WE
DO APPRECIATE HIM PUTTING ALL
THIS TOGETHER HERE TODAY. AND I
GUESS IT WOULD TAKE ANOTHER
INTERIM MOMENT TO THANK THE REST
OF MY TEAM TO ESPECIALLY AND FOR
GIVING US BEAUTIFUL IMAGERY AND
GRAPHICS AND ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW
IF THE D O E AND GO BIZARRE
COMPLIMENTING YOU ON YOUR
CHARTS, YOU KNOW YOU'VE DONE
SOMETHING, RIGHT? SO THANK YOU
GUYS. UM ALRIGHT. MISFORTUNE
WELCOME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
FOR HAVING ME TODAY. MARION
FERGUSON, CALIFORNIA DIRECTOR
FOR CLIMATE AND ENERGY AT
NATURAL RESOURCES DEFENSE
COUNCIL. IT'S MY PLEASURE TO BE
HERE TODAY TO DISCUSS THE
BIGGEST OPPORTUNITY IN A
GENERATION TO BUILD ON AND
LEVERAGE. FEDERAL DOLLARS. A LOT
OF DISCUSSION HAS ALREADY BEEN
HAD ABOUT THE DIFFERENT PARTS OF
MONEY. THE DETAILS OF THOSE
THERE'S A GREAT BRIEFING, SO I'M
NOT GOING TO GO INTO THOSE
TODAY. I THINK WE NEED WE'VE
TALKED ENOUGH ABOUT THAT. I
THINK THE MAIN THING IS JUST TO
REMEMBER AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL.
THERE'S A BUNCH OF FORMULA
GRANTS. OUR STAFF AT THE STATE
SEEMED TO BE VERY ON TOP OF
GETTING THOSE FUNDS, BUT THERE'S
HUGE OPPORTUNITIES IN TERMS OF
LOANS. TAX CREDITS, WHICH ARE
LARGELY UNLIMITED AND IN
CALIFORNIA, ON THE CONSUMER SIDE
, THEIR INCENTIVES FOR ENERGY
EFFICIENCY FOR ELECTRIFICATION,
SOLAR ELECTRIC VEHICLES THAT
COULD SUM TO MORE THAN $15,000
PER HOME, PLUS ALL OF THE OTHER
BUSINESS TAX CREDITS, AND
THERE'S COMPETITIVE GRANTS, SO
THOSE ARE THE LIKE OPPORTUNITIES
FOR MORE AND BETTER AND GETTING
MORE MONEY TO COME TO
CALIFORNIA. I ALSO ADD THAT NEW
YORK AND OTHER BLUE STATES ARE
PUTTING UP MORE MONEY PER CAPITA
THAN CALIFORNIA TO SUPPORT
APPLICATIONS AND ABOUT TWO
THIRDS OF THE IRA LOAN DOLLARS
ARE GOING TO RED STATES. SO
THERE IS OPPORTUNITY AND I NEED
FOR ACTION HERE. IN ADDITION TO
WHAT WE'VE ALREADY HEARD, I'M
JUST GOING TO GO THROUGH FOUR
AREAS WHERE I REALLY SEE
OPPORTUNITY TO RAMP UP AND GET
ACCESS TO AND BUILD ON THIS
OPPORTUNITY WITH IRA. SO THE
FIRST THING I JUST WANT TO
EMPHASIZE, WHICH IS ALREADY SORT
OF HINTED AT AND DIRECTLY AND
INDIRECTLY AT THE PAST, LAST
PANEL IS THE NEED TO RESOURCE
THE AGENCIES, THE LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS AND COMMUNITY BASED
ORGANIZATIONS TO PURSUE AND MAKE
BEST USE OF THESE FUNDS. THIS
COULD INCLUDE FUNDS AND
TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE FOR
ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE,
COMMUNITIES AND TRIBES WHO NEED
RESOURCES IN ORDER TO JUST TO
APPLY FOR THIS FUNDING. UM IT
REQUIRES REQUIRES A LOT OF
CAPACITY TO GET THOSE
APPLICATIONS AND THERE'S OFTEN
ALSO A DELAY BETWEEN GETTING
AWARDED SOMETHING AND THEN
ACTUALLY HAVING THE CASH AND
THERE'S ACTUALLY A FINANCING
THAT'S NEEDED FOR THAT. SO
THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO MAKE
SURE THIS MONEY GETS TO THE
NONPROFITS, THE LOCAL
ORGANIZATIONS AND THE LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS THAT CAN MAKE USE OF
IT. WE SHOULD ALSO BE
CONSIDERING EXTRA POSITIONS AND
SUPPORT FOR A PROPOSAL
DEVELOPMENT TO SUBMIT
APPLICATIONS AND THEN STATE
BUDGETS FOR MATCH FUNDS, WHICH
HAS BEEN DISCUSSED, SO THAT'S
NUMBER ONE JUST TO RESOURCE. THE
FOLKS WHO NEED TO GET THIS
FUNDING. THE SECOND IS THAT WE
NEED TO BUILD ON THE FOUNDATION
THAT WE HAVE IN CALIFORNIA. AND
HAPPILY, WE DO HAVE A VERY SOLID
FOUNDATION AND I THINK FOR EVERY
SINGLE DOLLAR THAT'S COMING INTO
THE STATE. WE NEED TO FIRST ASK
HOW WE CAN BUILD ON WHAT'S
ALREADY HERE. JUST AS ONE
EXAMPLE IN THE BUILDING
DECARBONIZATION SPACE, WE
ALREADY HAVE A STATEWIDE
PROGRAM. TECH CLEAN CALIFORNIA
FOR HEAT PUMP INCENTIVES FOR
SINGLE FAMILY AND MULTI FAMILY
HOMES, AND THE CC RIGHT NOW IS
DEVELOPING A LOW INCOME, DIRECT
AND INSTALLED PROGRAM. LITERALLY
AS WE SPEAK. THESE PROGRAMS CAN
BE LEVERAGED TO USE THE ALMOST
$600 MILLION IN FUNDS THAT WILL
SEE COMING TO CALIFORNIA AS WELL
AS THE UNLIMITED TAX CREDITS OF
$2000 PER HEAT PUMP THAT WILL BE
THAT ARE ALREADY AVAILABLE IN
CALIFORNIA THIS YEAR. THERE'S
ALSO A GREAT OPPORTUNITY
PROVIDED BY THE STATE BUDGET
THAT JUST PASSED. THERE'S 10.
THAT'S $10 MILLION THAT WENT TO
THE TO SUPPORT TECHNICAL
ASSISTANCE FOR FEDERAL TAX
CREDITS AND A PUBLIC AWARENESS
CAMPAIGN. WHOEVER GOTTEN THAT IN
THE BUDGET WAS VERY SMART.
THAT'S AN EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITY
. UM, AND WE ALREADY HAVE A
STATEWIDE PROGRAM MARKETING PINK
CAMPAIGN ON ELECTRIC
TECHNOLOGIES. SO THE SWITCHES ON
CAMPAIGN, WHICH IS PART OF TECH
, CLEAN CALIFORNIA, IT SWITCHES
ON .ORG, ALREADY HAS A DATABASE
OVER OVER 200 INCENTIVES ALREADY
AVAILABLE IN CALIFORNIA AND A
DIRECTORY OF OVER 1000 VETTED
CONTRACTORS. SO EVEN WITH
SOMETHING LIKE THAT WE DON'T
NEED TO START FROM A BLANK
SLATE. THERE'S ACTUALLY A
FOUNDATION HERE IN CALIFORNIA.
GREAT THAT WE HAVE ADDITIONAL
FUNDING TO REALLY MAKE SURE WE
MAKE USE OF THOSE TAX CREDITS.
AND WE CAN SORT OF LEVERAGE.
WHAT WE HAVE. ANOTHER GREAT
EXAMPLE IS WHERE THE STRATEGIC
GROWTH COUNCIL HAS MANAGED TO
PROCURE FUNDING TO REACH OUT TO
THE TRANSFORMATIVE CLIMATE
COMMUNITY GRANTEES FROM THE PAST
AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE
PREPARED TO PUT IN APPLICATIONS
FOR THE ALMOST MORE THAN $3
BILLION AND ENVIRONMENTAL AND
CLIMATE JUSTICE PROGRAM BLOCK
GRANTS, SO THERE'S GREAT
OPPORTUNITIES WHERE WE'VE
ALREADY NURTURED COMMUNITIES AND
LEADERS AND IF WE COULD USE THAT
, AS A AS AN EXPERIENCED
ACTUALLY APPLY FOR THIS
COMPETITIVE GRANTS WILL BE ABLE
TO MORE LIKELY TO GET THAT
FUNDING. THE THIRD AREA IS TO
PASS AND FUND BILLS THAT WILL BE
A FOUNDATION FOR FUTURE SUCCESS
. SO I'LL JUST POINT OUT THREE
BILLS THAT I THINK ARE WORTH
LOOKING AT. IN THIS CONTEXT. ONE
IS SP 7 94. GONZALES THIS IS
MASTER PLANNING FOR SUSTAINABLE
CLIMATE, RESILIENCE SCHOOLS.
THIS WILL ALLOW SCHOOLS IN OUR
STATE TO BE READY BOTH FOR
FEDERAL FUNDS AND ALSO FOR
FUTURE BOND FUNDS. SO THEY
ALREADY HAVE THE PLANS AND
INTENTIONS IN PLACE TO ACTUALLY
INSTALL RENOVATE SCHOOLS IN A
WAY THAT IS, IS RESPONSIVE TO
CLIMATE RESILIENCE. THIS BILL
HAS BEEN DOING WELL, BUT IT
DOESN'T HAVE FUNDING, SO I'LL
JUST NOTE THAT WE NEED FUNDING
FOR A BILL. SB 7 94. I MEAN,
SORRY, 3 94. THE SECOND BILL,
I'LL POINT OUT IS SB 7 95 STERNE
, WHICH WILL ENFORCE THE
PERMITTING OF H VAC AND IMPROVE
THE EFFICIENCY OF BUILDINGS. THE
LAST THING WE NEED IS BILLIONS
OF DOLLARS GOING TO H VAC IN THE
STATE FOR PERMANENT AND POORLY
INSTALLED SYSTEMS AND THE THIRD
BILL, I THINK THAT'S REALLY
FOUNDATIONAL IS SP FOR 10 BECKER
, WHICH HOLDS UTILITIES
ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE TIMELY
PROVISION OF POWER FOR THINGS
LIKE BUILDINGS AND ELECTRIC
VEHICLE, CHARGING FOR WHICH
THERE ARE LOADS OF FEDERAL
INCENTIVES, BUT WE ACTUALLY HAVE
TO HAVE POWER FOR THESE VEHICLES
IN A TIMELY FASHION. AND THEN
FINALLY, I'LL JUST POINT OUT THE
OPPORTUNITY FOR THE BOND, WHICH
SENATOR STERN MENTIONED AT THE
END THERE. WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE
A CLIMATE RESILIENCE BOND, IF
NOT NOW, NEXT YEAR. WE'D LIKE TO
SEE AT LEAST $2 BILLION IN THAT
FOR CLEAN ENERGY. SOME OF THE
THINGS THAT WE THINK SHOULD BE
PRIORITIES ARE FUNDING TO
UPGRADE PUBLIC BUILDINGS AND
COMMUNITY BUILDINGS THROUGH THE
STRATEGIC GROWTH COUNCILS
COMMUNITY RESILIENCE CENTER
PROGRAM. RESEARCH TO SUPPORT THE
RESPONSIBLE DEPLOYMENT OF
OFFSHORE WIND FUNDING FOR PORTS
AND GOOD MOVEMENT,
ELECTRIFICATION AND RELIABILITY
. INVESTMENTS THAT ARE REALLY
TARGETED TO REDUCE DEPENDENCE ON
AGING GAS POWER PLANTS. AND SO
WHILE THE IRA IS A MASSIVE
INVESTMENT, AND WE'VE MADE
REALLY GREAT INVESTMENTS IN THE
STATE IN THE LAST TWO YEARS,
SOMETHING LIKE A CLIMATE BAND
CAN CONTINUE TO NURTURE THAT
MOMENTUM AND REALLY SORT OF
PAVED THE WAY FOR THE FUTURE
THAT WE NEED TO 2030 2045. SO
STOP THERE. BUT THANK YOU SO
MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. WELL THANK
YOU. I'M JUST FILLING IN HERE
FOR THE CHAIR. BUT WE APPRECIATE
YOUR COMMENTS, AND WE'LL JUST
MOVE ON TO THE NEXT PERSON NOW
SOME MR DELIVERIES. YOU GOT IT.
THANK YOU. AH THANK YOU VERY
MUCH FOR HAVING ME HERE TODAY.
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, MY
NAME'S CISCO DEVRIES AND THE
CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER OF
CONNECT WE ARE A FREE SERVICE
FOR RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS THAT
ALLOWS PEOPLE TO REDUCE HELPS
PEOPLE REDUCE THEIR ENERGY USE
AND THEN PAYS THEM REWARDS THEM
FOR REDUCING THEIR ENERGY USE AT
KEY TIMES WHEN THE GRID IS DIRTY
, EXPENSIVE AND CONGESTED. AH,
THEN OUR CUSTOMERS NOT ONLY
RECEIVED THE BENEFIT ON THEIR
BILL, BUT THEY RECEIVE SOME
EXTRA AWARDS AS WELL. AND THAT
IS SORT OF WHAT I WANTED TO SORT
OF TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW
WE'RE GOING TO BRING THE VIRTUAL
POWER PLANT AND USE THE IRA AND
ALL THE TOOLS IN FRONT OF US TO
BRING THIS DOWN VERY QUICKLY TO
BE A BENEFIT TO THE CUSTOMERS
AND RESIDENTS OF CALIFORNIA.
AFTER THE LAST 100 YEARS OR SO
WE HAVE RUN THE GRID IN ONE WAY,
WHICH IS WE HAVE LARGE POWER
PLANTS THAT GENERATE POWER, AND
THAT POWER IS THEN DISTRIBUTED
TO FOLKS LIKE US THAT USE IT,
UH, THAT WHENEVER THERE IS AN
INCREASE IN DEMAND, WE INCREASE
SUPPLY AND VICE VERSA. WE'RE
ABOUT TO TURN ALL THAT ON ITS
HEAD. SO WITH EXTREME WEATHER
WITH THE EXTREME LOAD INCREASES
WE'RE SEEING BECAUSE OF WEATHER
AND ELECTRIFICATION, TVS AND
WHATNOT AND THE INCREASE OF
RENEWABLES WE ACTUALLY NEED NOW
TO MAKE IT VERY DIFFERENT. THIS
IS WHERE VPS VIRTUAL POWER
PLANTS COME IN. WHAT WE NEED TO
DO IS HAVE INDIVIDUAL
RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS AND
COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS OF THE
ENERGY BECOME PART OF THE
GENERATION AND LOAD FLEXIBILITY
THAT IS NECESSARY FOR THE GRID
TO GO FORWARD. HISTORICALLY WE
USED PEAKER POWER PLANTS. THESE
ARE NATURAL GAS. AH THESE ARE
NATURAL GAS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S
GOING ON. THERE IT IS. FINE,
THANK YOU. LEAVE THAT ONE UP.
THESE ARE TRADITIONALLY NATURAL
GAS POWER PLANTS THAT ARE TURNED
ON ONLY 3 TO 5% OF THE TIME, AND
THEY TEND TO BE IN REALLY
BEAUTIFUL SPOTS LIKE REDONDO
BEACH OR IN PEOPLE'S
NEIGHBORHOODS AND BACKYARDS,
WHERE THEY'RE HORRIBLY
POLLUTING. WE NEED TO STOP USING
THOSE AND WE NEED ALTERNATIVES.
THAT'S WHERE BATTERIES ARE
GREAT, BUT VIRTUAL POWER PLANTS
OR EVEN BETTER. AH VIRTUAL POWER
PLANTS CAN BE A NETWORK OF
INDIVIDUAL HOMES AND BUSINESSES
WHERE EACH ONE OF THOSE REDUCES
THEIR ENERGY USE AT KEY TIMES IN
ORDER TO MANAGE THE GRID SUPPLY
AND DEMAND AND KEEP THINGS IN
EQUILIBRIUM. THESE ARE CHEAPER
AND FASTER TO INSTALL BECAUSE
WE'RE JUST ENGAGING INDIVIDUAL
CUSTOMERS AND ARE MUCH CHEAPER
TO OPERATE, AND THERE'S ZERO
CARBON CALIFORNIA HOME CONNECT
HAS 200,000 PLUS OF HOMES AND
OVER 300,000 APPLIANCES AND
DEVICES THAT WE CONTROL.
DIRECTLY ALLOWING US TO FLEX UP
TO 200 MEGAWATTS OF LOAD AND
ELIMINATE THE NEED FOR PEAKER
POWER PLANTS TO TURN ON HUNDREDS
OF TIMES A YEAR. ONE YEAR AGO,
WE FACED A GIANT HEATWAVE AS YOU
WERE CALLING. THE GRID GOT
REALLY NEAR THE EDGE OF ROLLING
BLACKOUTS. DURING THAT FEW DAYS
OF THE HEAT WAVE. WE ARE
CUSTOMERS REDUCE 1.5 GIGAWATT
HOURS OF ELECTRICITY FOR WHICH
WE PAID THEM. $2.7 MILLION.
THAT'S A VIRTUAL POWER PLANT
THAT STEPPED UP AS A NETWORK OF
HOMES TO SAVE THE GRID WHEN THE
GRID WAS REALLY IN NEED, AND
IT'S THE KIND OF THING THAT WE
NEED TO BUILD TREMENDOUSLY UPON.
SO FROM THERE. WE CAN JUST LOOK
AT EACH HOME AND EVERY DEVICE AN
APPLIANCE IN THE HOME, WHETHER
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT GENERATES
POWER LIKE SOLAR OR HAS POWER IN
IT LIKE A BATTERY, OR JUST
APPLIANCES LIKE REFRIGERATORS
AND HEAT PUMPS AND LIGHTS. WE
CAN ALL OF THOSE CAN BE PART OF
A VIRTUAL POWER PLANT. WE CAN
ENGAGE INDIVIDUALLY WITH THOSE
CUSTOMERS, AND THOSE DEVICES
HELP FLEX THAT LOAD. AS
NECESSARY IN ORDER TO ADJUST FOR
GRID CONDITIONS AND THE
CUSTOMERS ARE REWARDED FOR THEIR
PARTICIPATION. TODAY WE HAVE AS
I MENTIONED ACROSS THE STATE
OVER ABOUT 300,000 OF THESE THAT
RANGE FROM SMART PLUGS ALL THE
WAY TO EVEY CHARGERS. AND WE ARE
INCREASINGLY WORKING WITH FOLKS
LIKE LG AND CARRIER SUNPOWER AND
GOOGLE NEST TO CONTROL AND
EXPANDED SET OF DEVICES AND
APPLIANCES AND HOMES. TODAY
WE'VE ALREADY FLEXED THOSE
DEVICES OVER 40 MILLION TIMES.
SO LAST THE IRA. I WANT TO 0.22
THINGS THAT ARE REALLY IMPORTANT
ABOUT THE IRA THAT OFTEN GO
UNMENTIONED. WE TALK A LOT ABOUT
THE TAX CREDITS AND OTHER
EXCITING BITS WERE REALLY
EXCITED ABOUT THOSE A LARGE
SCALE CONSTRUCTION POSSIBLE. BUT
I WANT TO MENTION THE $9 BILLION
THAT IN THE HOPE FOR HOMES,
EFFICIENCY REBATES AND THE 4.5
BILLION HOME ELECTORATE,
VACATION AND APPLIANCE REBATES.
THESE ARE TWO ONES THAT DIRECTLY
IMPACT RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS IN
CALIFORNIA TODAY. THEIR HOMES
REBATE PROGRAM PROVIDES A DIRECT
INCENTIVE FOR HOMES THAT REDUCE
THEIR ENERGY USED BY 15 TO 20%
OR MORE. AND THE HOME
ELECTRIFICATION AND APPLIANCE
REBATE PROGRAM PROVIDES LOWER
AND MODERATE INCOME HOMES, A
DIRECT INCENTIVE FOR
ELECTRIFYING THEIR HOUSES. THESE
TOGETHER CAN PROVIDE FOR
MILLIONS OF UPGRADED HOMES. MORE
EFFICIENT HOMES AND HOMES WITH
ELECTRIFIED EQUIPMENT. WE CAN
ADD THE GRID SERVICES BENEFITS
TO THAT AND CREATE GIGAWATTS.
FLEXIBLE VIRTUAL POWER PLANTS
VIRTUALLY OVERNIGHT. WITHIN A
COUPLE OF YEARS USING THESE
TOOLS THESE TOOLS NOW OR GO TO
THE CALIFORNIA ENERGY COMMISSION
WILL DEVELOP THE RULES BASED ON
D WE GUIDELINES, WHICH IS
GUIDANCE THAT HAS BEEN ISSUED
AND THIS REALLY IMPORTANT PIECE
THAT WILL ROLL OUT OVER THE
COURSE OF ABOUT THE NEXT YEAR
WILL ENABLE EVERYBODY LOAD OF
MODERN INCOME EVERYBODY ELSE TO
PARTICIPATE QUICKLY IN THE
TRANSITION TO CLEAN ENERGY AND
TO RECEIVE DIRECT BENEFITS FROM
IT. THE IRA IS A HUGE STEPPING
STONE TO GET US TO WHERE WE NEED
TO GO. SO THE LAST THING THAT I
MENTIONED THEN IS THERE'S LOTS
WE CAN DO ABOUT THIS, BUT
THERE'S ONE BIG GOAL THAT WE
RECOMMEND. AND THAT IS SET A
DEMAND RESPONSE PROCUREMENT GOAL
FOR LOAD SERVING ENTITIES.
PREVIOUSLY THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA HAS DONE AMAZING
THINGS WITH UTILITY SCALE SOLAR
AND RENEWABLE PORTFOLIO STANDARD
WITH THE CALIFORNIA SOLAR
INITIATIVE IN A MILLION SOLAR
HOMES AND MORE RECENTLY WITH THE
BATTERY STORAGE MANDATE FROM A B
25 14. ALL OF THOSE HELPED
CREATE LARGE SCALE INVESTMENT IN
CLEAN ENERGY. NEXT LET'S DO THE
SAME FOR VIRTUAL POWER PLANTS BY
SETTING A PROCUREMENT TARGET SO
THAT VIRTUAL POWER PLANTS AND
DEMAND FLEXIBILITY BECOME PART
OF THE MIX THE SAME WAY THAT
SOLAR BATTERIES AND OTHER
RENEWABLES HAVE. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, MR DAVIES. AND
APOLOGIES FOR MISSING THE
BEGINNING OR TESTIMONY. I WAS
TEMPTING AS THE PUBLIC UTILITIES
COMMISSION. UM EXACTLY WHY WE'RE
GOING TO GAS IS THE DEFAULT AS
OPPOSED TO LOOKING TO YOUR WORK
HAVE NOT YET GOT THAT
OPPORTUNITY ASKED THE QUESTION,
SO IF I'M IN AND OUT IT'S
BECAUSE I'M I'M IN A QUEUE WHERE
I AM HOPING TO ASK THAT QUESTION
OF OUR OF OUR STATE'S ENERGY
REGULATORS AS WE LOOK TO RE FIRE
GAS, A GAS FIRED FUTURE AS AN
ALTERNATIVE OR ACTUALLY IS THE
PRIMARY STRATEGY. IT SEEMS UH,
SPEAKING OF EFFICIENCIES AND
DOING MORE WITH LESS. MR GILMORE
LINE VISION. VERY EXCITED TO
HAVE YOU HERE TODAY AND HERE,
YOUR VISION. SO MUCH THRILL
HONOR TO BE HERE. SO MY NAME IS
HUDSON GILMER, CEO OF LINE
VISION. AND WHAT I'D LIKE TO
TALK ABOUT. TODAY IS THE
IMPORTANT ROLE OF GRID ENHANCING
TECHNOLOGIES IN RELIEVING GRID
BOTTLENECKS. SO WE HEARD FROM MS
MILLER IN THE EARLIER PANEL
ABOUT THE FACT THAT BOTTLENECKS
TO CALIFORNIA'S GRID REPRESENT
PROBABLY THE BIGGEST OBSTACLE TO
ACHIEVING THE CLEAN ENERGY GOALS
OF THE STATE. BUT ALSO TO REALLY
CAPTURING AFFAIR OR EVEN
OUTSIZED SHARE OF THE BENEFITS,
THE JOBS AND THE FUNDING THAT
COME FROM THE INFLATION
REDUCTION ACT. UM IF WE THINK
ABOUT CALIFORNIA IT'S ALWAYS
BEEN A LEADER IN CLEAN ENERGY
AND HAS PERHAPS THE BOLDEST
CLEAN ENERGY AND ZERO GOAL OF
ALL STATES IN THE COUNTRY. AND
SO ON THE SURFACE, IT WOULD SEEM
THAT CALIFORNIA WOULD BE
EXCEPTIONALLY WELL POSITIONED TO
BENEFIT FROM THE FUNDING
OPPORTUNITIES IN THE INFLATION
REDUCTION ACT. BUT THE CHALLENGE
IS IF WE DIG IN A LITTLE DEEPER,
AND LOOK AT HOW WE GET TO NET
ZERO, REALLY, THE GRID
CONSTRAINTS REPRESENT A
BOTTLENECK TO THOSE FUNDING
OPPORTUNITIES BECAUSE, AFTER
ALL, THIS IS REALLY PRIVATE
CAPITAL THAT'S LOOKING TO GO
WHEREVER THESE PROJECTS CAN BE
BUILT. AND IF WE THINK ABOUT THE
STEPS OF NET ZERO THE CARBONIZED
GENERATION. SO THIS IS TAX
CREDITS IN THE IRA THAT ARE
FUNDING, RENEWABLE WIND AND
SOLAR PROJECT, BUT THEY CAN ONLY
GO WHERE THERE IS GRID CAPACITY
TO BUILD. SECONDLY IF WE LOOK TO
THE RIGHT, THIS IS ELECTRIFYING
TRANSPORTATION, ELECTRIFYING
BUILDINGS, ELECTRIFYING
INDUSTRIAL LOADS AGAIN. HUGE
ROLE, EXCITING ROLE FOR THE
FUNDING OPPORTUNITY IN THE IRA,
BUT THAT BRINGS ADDITIONAL LOADS
THAT COME ONTO THE GRID. SO
REALLY, WHAT'S OFTEN OVERLOOKED
IS THAT THIRD STEP IN THE MIDDLE
, WHICH IS EXPANDING GRID
CAPACITY. EXPERTS SAY THAT
BETWEEN NOW AND 2035 WILL NEED
TO DOUBLE GRID CAPACITY IN THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA AND
NATIONWIDE AND WILL NEED TO
TRIPLE IT BY BY 20. 15 AND. AND
CALIFORNIA. IF WE LOOK AT WHERE
IT'S POSITIONED RIGHT NOW
ALREADY IS EXPERIENCING MASSIVE
GRID BOTTLENECKS. I'LL GIVE YOU
A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES. SO RIGHT
NOW, UM, GRID CONGESTION IS AT
RECORD LEVELS IN THE STATE, AND
JUST IN 2022. THERE WAS $647
MILLION AT RETAIL RATES OF
CURTAILMENTS DUE TO GRID
BOTTLENECKS. SO THIS IS
BASICALLY WASTED WIND AND SOLAR
GENERATION AND A SECOND EXAMPLE
IS THAT CALIFORNIA UNFORTUNATELY
, STANDS DEAD, LAST AMONG ALL
STATES IN TERMS OF THE
PERCENTAGE OF WIND AND SOLAR
PROJECTS THAT MAKE IT THROUGH
THAT INTERCONNECTION PROCESS AND
ACTUALLY GET COMPLETED, SO THIS
IS MISSED OPPORTUNITIES FOR JOBS
. THAT'S MISSED OPPORTUNITIES
FOR FUNDING, PARTICULARLY WITH
THE ADVENT OF THE IRA. SO IT
WOULD SEEM LIKE THERE'S A SIMPLE
SOLUTION. WHY DON'T WE JUST
BUILD MORE GRID CAPACITY? BUT OF
COURSE, WE KNOW THE CHALLENGES
THAT COME WITH THAT THE
PERMITTING CHALLENGES THE TIME
IT TAKES TO GO FROM PROJECT
DESIGNED TO COMPLETION AND THESE
ARE TYPICALLY FIVE YEAR
PROCESSES ARE MORE. UM SO
REALLY, WE'RE LINE VISION COMES
IN IS THAT WE REPRESENT A NEW
MODEL FOR HOW WE BUILD GRID
CAPACITY. HOW WE BUILD GRID
INFRASTRUCTURE, NOT WITH POLES
AND BUYERS BUT USING TECHNOLOGY
USING ADVANCED SENSORS IN
ANALYTICS AND THIS IF I GO INTO
A LITTLE BIT OF DETAIL, WHAT
LINE VISION DOES IS USED NON
CONTACT SENSORS THAT MOUNT ON
THE TOWER AND PROVIDE REAL TIME
DATA ON THE CONDUCTORS AND HELP
UTILITIES TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE
FACT THAT EVEN A LITTLE BIT OF
WIND COOLING THE LINE. ALLOWS
THEM TO SAFELY PUT UP TO 40%
MORE POWER THROUGH THOSE
EXISTING LINES, SO WE'VE DONE
PROJECTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND
AROUND THE WORLD. SIX OF THE
LARGEST UTILITIES IN THE U. S
ARE CLIENTS OF OURS. THIS IS A
PROVEN TECHNOLOGY AND ACTUALLY,
SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE SEEN
THERE'S A PROJECT HERE WITH SMUD
, NOT NOT MORE THAN FIVE MILES
AWAY FROM US. THAT WAS FEATURED
IN A RECENT NPR RELEASE. JUST A
WEEK OR SO AGO. UM SO THE
ADVANTAGE OF THIS GRID ENHANCING
TECHNOLOGY OR DYNAMIC LINE
RATINGS APPROACH IS THAT IT IS
SIGNIFICANTLY CHEAPER AND
SIGNIFICANTLY FASTER THAN THE
TRADITIONAL APPROACHES TO
BUILDING GRID CAPACITY. WE
ESTIMATE IT CAN BE DONE AT LESS
THAN 5% OF THE UNIT. COST OF
BUILDING NEW TRANSMISSION. AND
PERHAPS EVEN MORE IMPORTANTLY,
IT CAN BE DONE IN A MATTER OF
TWO OR THREE MONTHS, AS OPPOSED
TO THE FIVE OR MORE YEARS THAT
IT TAKES TO BUILD NEW
TRANSMISSION. UM BUT I WANT TO
BE CLEAR. THIS IS NOT A SILVER
BULLET IN ORDER TO TRIP DOUBLE
OR EVEN TRIPLE GRID CAPACITY
WILL NEED A RANGE OF SOLUTIONS,
INCLUDING GRID ENHANCING
TECHNOLOGIES, INCLUDING RE
CONDUCTING EXISTING LINES,
INCLUDING BUILDING A RECORD
AMOUNT OF NEW LINES. BUT THESE
ARE COMPLEMENTARY TO EACH OTHER
, AND I WON'T GO INTO DETAIL.
BUT THERE'S A RECENT STUDY THAT
WAS DONE BY THE BRATTLE GROUP.
BUT THAT SHOWED SOME OF THE
BENEFITS OF COMBINING GRID
ENHANCING TECHNOLOGIES WITH
THESE OTHER, MORE TRADITIONAL
SOLUTIONS 40% OR MORE REDUCTION
IN CONGESTION BEFORE AND DURING
CONSTRUCTION OF THESE NEW
PROJECTS. AND THE WAY TO THINK
ABOUT THIS IS REALLY THAT GREAT
ENHANCING TECHNOLOGIES REPRESENT
THE LOW HANGING FRUIT THAT
ALLOWS US TO GET A JUMP START
REALLY BUY OURSELVES TIME. WHILE
THOSE MORE TRADITIONAL
APPROACHES OF BUILDING NEW
INFRASTRUCTURE GET UNDERWAY. SO
YOU KNOW, MAYBE MOVING TO
SOLUTIONS. THERE'S REALLY KIND
OF TWO CATEGORIES. THE FIRST IS
UM, REFORMING AND INCORPORATING
GRID ENHANCING TECHNOLOGIES INTO
BOTH THE GRID PLANNING,
TRANSMISSION PLANNING AND THE
INTERCONNECTION PROCESSES, SO
THERE IS A CONCEPT CALLED THE
PREFERRED LOADING ORDER THAT WAS
REALLY PIONEERED ON THE
GENERATION SIDE THAT I THINK IS
APPLICABLE HERE TO SAY YES, WE
WILL NEED A RANGE OF SOLUTIONS
TO SUPPORT AND SPEED UP THE
INTERCONNECTION PROCESS TO
THINK. ABOUT HOW WE SCALE GRID
CAPACITY. BUT LET'S START BY
GETTING THE MOST OUT OF THE
EXISTING WIRES. UM AND THEN YOU
KNOW, THE OTHER SET OF
RECOMMENDATIONS AND MY COLLEAGUE
HILLARY PEARSON, WHO HEADS OUR
REGULATORY GROUP IS AVAILABLE
FOR THE RECEPTION AFTERWARDS,
AND WE CAN GO INTO MUCH MORE
DETAIL. BUT THIS IS REALLY TO
TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE FUNDING
OPPORTUNITIES AT BOTH THE STATE
AND THE FEDERAL LEVEL. ONE OF
THE THINGS WE HAVE SEEN IN THE
STATE OF NEW YORK IS HOW
CATALYTIC FUNDING FROM NICER TO
WAS IN IN REALLY SEATING SOME OF
THOSE INITIAL PROJECTS, AND IT'S
NO COINCIDENCE THAT THAT'S WHERE
THE MOST PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE
OF ANY STATE, OR WE SEE A
SIMILAR ROLE FOR CALIFORNIA IN
TERMS OF THE EPIC PROGRAM AND
THE AND THEN AT THE FEDERAL
LEVEL, AND WE'VE TALKED A LOT
ABOUT THE IRA. BUT THE I J A HAS
ABOUT $14 BILLION IN
INFRASTRUCTURE FUNDING, MUCH OF
WHICH IS FOR GRID TECHNOLOGY IS
TO IMPROVE BOTH RESILIENCE AND
CAPACITY OF THE GRID. AND YOU
CAN REALLY SAY THIS IS KIND OF A
MULTIPLIER WHERE CAPTURING THOSE
I J DOLLARS IS POSITIONING THE
STATE TO BETTER CAPTURE IRA
DOLLARS, AND THERE'S EVEN
PERHAPS A SECOND ORDER
MULTIPLIER OF SAYING THAT ONCE
THOSE RENEWABLE PROJECTS COME
ONLINE BECAUSE WE HAVE THE GREAT
CAPACITY THAT CAN ALSO REDUCE
ENERGY PRICES BECAUSE YOU SIMPLY
GOT MORE SUPPLY ON THE GRID. IN
CLOSING, UM I'M HERE TODAY
BECAUSE I'M SO IMPRESSED WITH
THE ROLE THAT CALIFORNIA HAS HAD
IN LEADING ON CLIMATE IN LEADING
ON CLEAN ENERGY, AND I THINK
THIS IS REALLY ANOTHER
OPPORTUNITY TO CALIFORNIA FOR
CALIFORNIA TO LEAN IN ON GRID
ENHANCING TECHNOLOGIES AS A WAY
OF OMAR, OVERCOMING THOSE GRID
OBSTACLES AND REALLY MAXIMIZING
THE OPPORTUNITY WITH FUNDING AND
JOBS FROM THE IRA. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR
COMMENTS. WE HAVE LIMITED TIME
LEFT. SO WE'LL COME TO YOU, MR
SMITH, AND WE'LL FINISH WITH
YOU, MR LIU. I'M GOING TO START
IT OFF. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR
JEREMY SMITH HERE ON BEHALF OF
THE STATE BUILDING CONSTRUCTION
TRADES COUNCIL OF CALIFORNIA ARE
MEMBERS HAVE ALREADY BUILT THE
VAST MAJORITY OF THE UTILITY
SCALE SOLAR WIND IN GEOTHERMAL
PROJECTS. WE ARE ALREADY PART OF
THE SOLUTION AND WE WANT TO BE
MORE PART OF THE SOLUTION OF THE
BUILD OUT MORE OF THESE.
TECHNOLOGIES LIKE OTHER CLEAN
ALTERNATIVE FUELS, SUCH AS
OFFSHORE WIND, BATTERY STORAGE
AND HYDROGEN WE WANT TO DO YOU
WANT TO BUILD THESE PROJECTS
WITH THE HIGHEST TRAINED AND
SKILLED WORKERS IN THE
CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY AND THE
WHOLE COUNTRY, AND I WOULD BE
REMISS IF I DIDN'T ADD CARBON
CAPTURE SEQUESTRATION ALSO ON
THAT LIST. BUT ON BEHALF OF
NEARLY HALF A MILLION SKILLED
AND TRAINED MEMBERS, WE URGE YOU
TO BE EXPENSIVE. IN YOUR POLICY
IS TO EMBRACE OF ALL THE
TECHNOLOGIES THAT STAND BEFORE
US AND CREATE SPACE FOR
CALIFORNIA'S INNOVATORS TO COME
UP WITH THE NEXT GENERATION OF
CLIMATE TECHNOLOGY, LIMITING OUR
ABILITY TO DEVELOP CLIMATE
SAVING ENERGY ONLINE ONLY HURT
CALIFORNIA AS A STRUGGLES AS IT
CONTINUES TO STRUGGLE WITH
MEETING POWER DEMANDS. IT WILL
ALSO HURT BLUE COLLAR
CALIFORNIANS WHO ARE STRUGGLING
TO AFFORD THE COSTS OF LIVING
HERE. EMPOWERING THEIR HOMES.
AND WE HEARD THIS LEGISLATURE TO
EMBRACE TECHNOLOGIES THAT ARE
ALREADY BEING USED ELSEWHERE,
AND THEY'RE BEING INCENTIVIZED
BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, AS
DESCRIBED TODAY, INCLUDING
HYDROGEN, OFFSHORE WIND AND
CARBON CAPTURE. UNFORTUNATELY
THESE ARE BEING BURNED IN
CALIFORNIA BY ONGOING
POLITICKING. WE NEED TO CREATE
SPACE AND OPPORTUNITY FOR THESE
PROJECTS TO HAPPEN, INCLUDING
NON NEGOTIABLE LABOR STANDARDS
FOR OUR SKILLED AND TRAINED
WORKFORCE BEFORE WE LOSE OUT ON
THE FEDERAL INCENTIVES TO OTHER
STATES THAT DO NOT SHARE
CALIFORNIA'S COMMITMENT TO
WORKING FAMILIES OR THE
ENVIRONMENT. WE NEED TO FIX
IMPEDIMENTS TO CARBON CAPTURE
TECHNOLOGY, A TOOL THAT EVEN
CARB HAS RECOGNIZED AS NECESSARY
TO EVEN APPROACH OR AGGRESSIVE
CLIMATE GOALS. WE NEED TO CREATE
A STABLE MARKET TO DEVELOP THE
$50 BILLION OFFSHORE WIND
INDUSTRY THAT IS PROJECTED TO
CREATE 8000 DIRECT JOBS ANNUALLY
AND 9000 JOBS, UPGRADE PORTS
INFRASTRUCTURE WHICH WE ARE TOLD
BY OUR FRIENDS IN THE WIND
INDUSTRY OVER $10 BILLION IS
NEEDED. UM AND THE THOUSANDS OF
OTHER JOBS THAT WILL SUPPORT
THESE MASSIVE CONSTRUCTION
PROJECTS WERE HOPING THAT THE
CLIMATE BILL SPH 67 CAN BE
AMENDED TO PERHAPS A DOWNPAYMENT
OF SORTS FOR THESE WIND PROJECTS
. THESE INFRASTRUCTURE REPORT
PROJECTS THAT ARE NEEDED TO
SUPPORT THESE MASSIVE WIND
TURBINES. AND WE NEED A POSITION
QUICKLY SO THAT CALIFORNIA CAN
BECOME A HYDROGEN HUB. WE WANT
CALIFORNIA TO BE A DESIGNATED
HUB, AND THAT IS WHY PRESIDENT
HAN IN THE PRESIDENT OF STATE
BUILDING TRADES, TOOK A
LEADERSHIP ROLE IN ESTABLISHING
THE ARTIST PROGRAM TO POSITION
CALIFORNIA AND THE BUILDING
TRADES AS AT THE FOREFRONT OF
THIS INVESTMENT. BUT IF WE DON'T
MOVE TO EMPOWER THE HYDROGEN
CONVERSION AH, IF WE DON'T MOVE
TO EMPOWER THE HYDROGEN
CONVERSION INFRASTRUCTURE, WE'RE
GOING TO MISS OUT. FINALLY WE
NEED TO GET THESE PROJECTS THESE
TYPES OF PROJECTS GOING AND WE
NEED TO ENSURE THAT WE DO THIS
NOT ONLY WITH OUR ENVIRONMENT IN
MIND. BUT ALSO WITH THEIR LOCAL
WORKFORCE. IN MINDS THAT ARE
MEMBERS WILL KEEP WORKING. WE
TALKED A LOT ABOUT IN THIS
BUILDING ABOUT THE JUST
TRANSITION TERM WE DON'T USE. WE
WANT OUR MEMBERS TO WORK. UH ONE
PLACE ONE DAY AND THEN GO TO
SOMEPLACE ELSE THE NEXT DAY AND
HAVE THAT THAT BE THE
TRANSITION. WE DON'T WANT
GOVERNMENT HANDOUTS. WE DON'T
WANT THE GOVERNMENT TO STEP IN
AND GIVE US MONEY TO MEET OUR
LIVING WAGES. LET'S FIGURE OUT A
WAY TO GO FROM ONE TYPE OF
ENERGY PRODUCTION, PROCUREMENT
TO ANOTHER AND LET OUR WORKERS
KEEP WORKING. AND WE WANT TO
MAKE SURE THERE ARE TWO LABOR
STANDARDS AS SET FORTH IN OUR
PRIORI BILL. SB 7 40. CALIFORNIA
WILL TRULY BE ABLE TO TRANSITION
AWAY. THERE'S RESPONSIBLE,
EQUITABLE AND AFFORDABLE AND,
MOST IMPORTANTLY, DOABLE.
TRUNCATED MY COMMENTS TODAY SO
WE CAN MEET OUR TIME DEADLINE.
SO HAPPY ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS?
YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU
APPRECIATE THAT, MR LIU. THANK
YOU AND GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS
ZAK LU I'M, THE COALITION
DIRECTOR FOR THE CALIFORNIA
GREEN NEW DEAL COALITION, WHICH
IS A STATEWIDE ALLIANCE OF OVER
80 ENVIRONMENTAL, JUSTICE,
LABOR, COMMUNITY AND CLIMATE
ORGANIZATIONS. OVER THE PAST
SEVERAL YEARS. WE'VE ENGAGED OUR
MEMBERS IN THEIR COMMUNITIES ON
THE NEED FOR CALIFORNIA TO TAKE
IN EQUITY AND JUSTICE SENATOR
APPROACH TO THE FUNDING MADE
AVAILABLE THROUGH THE I J A AND
THE IRA IN 2022 COALITION IS ONE
OF THE LEAD CO SPONSORS OF A B
24 19. THE CALIFORNIA JUSTICE 40
ACT AUTHORED BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
ISAAC BRIAN, WHICH SOUGHT TO
ALIGN CALIFORNIA WITH THE
JUSTICE 40 INITIATIVE. JUSTICE
40 IS A FEDERAL EFFORT THAT SET
A GOAL TO DELIVER AT LEAST 40%
OF THE OVERALL BENEFITS FROM
FEDERAL INVESTMENTS IN CLIMATE
INFRASTRUCTURE AND CLEAN ENERGY
TO DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES.
AND WHILE THE JUSTICE 40
INITIATIVE IS A STRONG FEDERAL
GOAL, STATES WILL ULTIMATELY
DETERMINE HOW AND WHERE THESE
INVESTMENTS ARE MADE. AND
CALIFORNIA CURRENTLY LACKS A
COMPREHENSIVE EQUITY FRAMEWORK
FOR INVESTMENTS, ACCORDING
ACCORDING TO THE STATE'S OWN
FINDINGS IN A REPORT BY THE
DEPARTMENT OF WATER RESOURCES,
THE STATE HAS A WIDE RANGE OF
INCONSISTENT, IMPRECISE AND
MISALIGNED DEFINITIONS AND
FRAMEWORKS. USED TO TARGET
COMMUNITIES FOR INVESTMENT. THAT
QUOTE DO NOT ALWAYS ACCURATELY
REPRESENT THE COMMUNITIES.
THEY'RE TRYING TO TARGET END
QUOTE. ALTHOUGH A B 24 19 DID
NOT PASS THE NEED FOR A STATE
COMMITMENT TO EQUITY HAS NOT
GONE AWAY AND IN FACT HAS ONLY
BECOME MORE URGENT. NEXT. YOU'RE
GOOD HERE AS FEDERAL INVESTMENTS
BECAME AVAILABLE, THE STATE
FACES TWO CONNECTED CHALLENGES.
ONE DISADVANTAGE IN HISTORICALLY
UNDER RESOURCED COMMUNITIES
OFTEN LACK THE CAPACITY TO
ACCESS FEDERAL FUNDS AND TWO AS
PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED. THE STATE
DOES NOT HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE
EQUITY FRAMEWORK. AT THE SAME
TIME, THE STATE HAS MADE IT
CLEAR PRIORITY TO STREAMLINE
DEPLOYMENT, BUILD INFRASTRUCTURE
AS FAST AS POSSIBLE. AND WHILE
WE RECOGNIZE THE URGENT NEED TO
RAPIDLY BUILD OUT CLIMATE,
RESILIENT AND CLEAN ENERGY
INFRASTRUCTURE IF THIS IS DONE
WITHOUT A SIMULTANEOUS
COMMITMENT TO EQUITY, THE STATE
RUNS THE RISK OF ONE CONTINUING
CONTINUING THE LEGACY OF
INEQUITABLE INFRASTRUCTURE
DEVELOPMENT TO INEFFECTIVELY,
DEPLOYING INVESTMENTS BY
OVERLOOKING PROJECTS THAT COULD
HAVE THE GREATEST IMPACT. AND
THREE, LEAVING THE STATE AND
LOCAL COMMUNITIES LESS
COMPETITIVE FOR FEDERAL FUNDING
OPPORTUNITIES. SO OUR SUGGESTION
IS NOT TO SLOW DOWN
INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPMENT. BUT
IF WE'RE GOING TO PRIORITIZE
BUILDING AS FAST AS POSSIBLE, WE
MUST ALSO SET ASIDE STATE
CAPACITY AND RESOURCES THAT ARE
COMMITTED TO DIRECTING
INVESTMENTS TO DISADVANTAGED
COMMUNITIES AND GETTING PROJECTS
IN THOSE COMMUNITIES READY FOR
FUNDING AS FAST AS POSSIBLE. AND
TO BE CLEAR OUR LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS AND COMMUNITY
ORGANIZATIONS ARE NOT PREPARED
FOR THIS FUNDING RIGHT NOW. THEY
EITHER DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT DON'T
HAVE THE CAPACITY TO APPLY AND
ADMINISTER FUNDING OR BOTH. SO
WITHOUT REAL ASSISTANCE, THESE
COMMUNITIES WILL LOSE OUT AND WE
WILL PERPETUATE THE INEQUITIES
WE LIVE WITH TODAY. SO AT A HIGH
LEVEL, OUR RECOMMENDATION IS
SIMPLE. THE STATE COULD THAT
SHOULD MAKE A DIRECT AND
MANDATED COMMITMENT TO JUSTICE
40 A COMMITMENT TO EQUITY AS A
DRIVING FEATURE OF CLIMATE AND
INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENTS.
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF WAYS THAT
THEY CAN DO. THIS ONE IS THROUGH
DEDICATED STATE RESOURCES AND
CAPACITY. SENATOR STERN ASKED
ABOUT ADDING ADMINISTRATIVE
CAPACITY EARLIER, SO THIS COULD
BE SOME KIND OF CENTRALIST STATE
OFFICE OF JUSTICE 40 OR JUST
COMMITTED STAFF THAT CAN WORK
ACROSS AGENCIES AND DEPARTMENTS
TO COORDINATE A WHOLE OF
GOVERNMENT APPROACH TO JUSTICE
40 EQUITABLE IMPLEMENTATION.
SHIN IT CAN ALSO SERVE AS SORT
OF CENTRAL HUB OR POINT OF
CONTACT FOR COMMUNITY GROUPS AND
LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO BRING
PROJECT IDEAS AND DISADVANTAGE
IN LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES. TO
PUT A FINER POINT ON THIS. WE
WOULD ANTICIPATE THIS MODEST
ALLOCATION WOULD PAY FOR ITSELF
MANY TIMES OVER, EVEN IF IT
WOULD COST A MILLION DOLLARS FOR
THE STATE TO SET UP IF IT COULD
FACILITATE EVEN RECEIVING JUST
ONE IRA GRANT THAT WE WOULDN'T
HAVE WON OTHERWISE, GIVEN THE
AVERAGE SIZE OF THOSE GRANTS,
THIS SINGLE FUNDING ALLOCATION
ALONE WOULD LIKELY EXCEED THE
MILLION DOLLAR PRICE TAG.
SECONDLY WE COULD HAVE
STRUCTURES FOR COMMUNITY
ACCOUNTABILITY AND OVERSIGHT.
ONE WAY TO DO. THIS IS THROUGH A
TRANSPARENT ACCOUNTING OF HOW
THE STATE IS INVESTING THESE
FANS. WE HAVE ALSO NOT SEEN HER
ABOUT ROBUST STAKEHOLDER
ENGAGEMENT PROCESS FROM STATE
AGENCIES AND MANY OF THE GRANT
FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES THAT FALL
UNDER JUSTICE 40. WE HAVE ALSO
CALLED FOR THE CREATION OF A
JUSTICE FOR THE ADVISORY
COMMITTEE MADE UP OF KEY
STAKEHOLDERS THAT COULD SUPPORT
IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS AND
THIRDLY, AS ROSE PROPOSED IN A B
24 19, THE STATE COULD DEVELOP
AN INVESTMENT FRAMEWORK THAT
REQUIRES TWO AGENCIES TO DIRECT
THIS FUNDING TO DISADVANTAGE IN
LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES. THERE
ARE SOME POSITIVE STEPS MADE BY
SB 1 50, WHICH IS A GOOD START.
BUT WE KNOW LABOR STANDARDS
ALONE ARE NOT ENOUGH. WE ALSO
NEED INVESTMENTS ACTUALLY GOING
INTO THOSE COMMUNITIES, SO WE
ENCOURAGE LEGISLATURE TO TAKE
THE NEXT STEP AFTER SB 1 50.
COMMIT TO DELIVERING THOSE
BENEFITS TO PLACES THAT NEED
THEM. SO JUST TO CONCLUDE WE
REALLY THINK THIS SHOULD BE A
SPRINGBOARD TO THINK BIGGER AND
DEVELOP A GOLD STANDARD HERE IN
CALIFORNIA. WE KNOW THAT
ULTIMATELY, THE STATE NEEDS A
COMPREHENSIVE EQUITY FRAMEWORK
ACROSS ALL CLIMATE,
INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENTS, NOT
JUST THOSE FROM THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT. THIS IS A MOMENT FOR
US TO INITIATE THAT URGENTLY
NEEDED DIALOGUE AND LOOK FORWARD
TO ONGOING CONVERSATIONS ON THIS
. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
FOR YOUR INSIGHT. I WANT TO GIVE
A BRIEF MOMENT FOR MEMBERS TO
ASK ANY FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS
BEFORE WE WRAP THIS INTERNAL
PUBLIC COMMENT. I KNOW WE'RE A
LITTLE COMPRESSED IN TIME, BUT
WE DO HAVE A MINUTE. WE GOT A
LITTLE EXTENSION FROM SERGEANTS
HERE, SO WE'RE GOING TO START
PUBLIC COMMENT ABOUT 15 MINUTES.
PUBLIC COMMENTS STARTING AT
NOON. SO WE'VE GOT FIVE MORE
MINUTES TO WRAP THIS PANEL. YEAH
YOU GUYS CAN TAKE OFF, BUT I'LL
STAY FOR PUBLIC. SO THAT'S MY.
MY ONLY OBSERVATION HERE IS JUST
A SYMBOLIC ONE. I REALLY
APPRECIATED WATCHING OUR FRIENDS
OF THE BUILDING TRADES HELP OUR
FRIENDS AND ENVIRONMENTAL
JUSTICE COMMITTEE JUST GET
THROUGH THE POWER POINT
PRESENTATION. AND IF WE CAN, IF
WE CAN HELP EACH OTHER CLICK THE
BUTTON AND MOVE EACH OTHER'S
AGENDAS ALONG AND FIND THOSE
PLACES IN THE VENN DIAGRAM WHERE
WE CAN AGREE. I THINK REALLY BIG
THINGS ARE POSSIBLE. SOME MADE
HIS POWER POINT. EXERCISE YIELDS
GREATER PARTNERSHIP IN THE
FUTURE. UM YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING
TO BE DRILLING DOWN FURTHER ON A
LOT OF THE TOPICS YOU ALL
MENTIONED TODAY. I THINK AS YOU
MENTIONED MR LIU SB 1 50.
FRAMEWORK TO START BUILDING OUT.
WE'RE GOING TO NEED NOT JUST
FELLAS, BUT COMMUNITY BENEFITS
AGREEMENTS ALONGSIDE THOSE TO
MAKE THESE PROJECTS GO,
ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'RE TOUGH
ISSUES. YOU KNOW THE LINE VISION
. PART OF THE WORLD IS IN SOME
WAYS THE EASIEST KIND OF LIFT
BECAUSE IT'S NOT NEW BUILDS AND
DOESN'T HAVE THE SAME IMPACT AND
MAY NOT EVEN BE, UH SOMETHING SO
BIG TO GET OUR HEADS AROUND. BUT
WHEN WE LOOK AT THINGS LIKE
GREEN HYDROGEN, WE KNOW THERE
ARE TENSIONS IN THOSE SPACES. I
THINK THESE ARE TENSIONS. WE'VE
GOT TO WORK THROUGH AND FIND
THOSE PLACES WHERE WE CAN
ACTUALLY LAND THINGS AND CHARGE
AHEAD. I THINK THE SAME IS TRUE
IN THAT SORT OF MUTUAL SUPPORT
ON THE RESILIENCE SIDE WHERE WE
KNOW UM, THEY'RE SORT OF THERE'S
MUTUAL AREAS OF OVERLAP, SO I'M
HOPING THAT'S A GOOD FRAMEWORK
FOR ONE FORWARD. I DO WANT TO
APPLAUD MISS BERGERSEN FOR NOT
JUST YOUR TESTIMONY HERE, BUT
ALSO THE INPUT ON OUR BOND
DISCUSSIONS AND STARTING TO
THINK CREATIVELY ABOUT THAT
LEVERAGE. OPPORTUNITY I HE'D
ALSO MR SMITH'S INPUT THERE AS
WELL ON THE OFFSHORE CONTEXT. I
KNOW WE ALSO HAVE SOME PARTNERS
FROM THE INDUSTRY SIDE HERE FROM
THE OFFSHORE WIND INDUSTRY THAT
WERE VERY KEEN TO BE HELPING.
AND THEN THE BAD NEWS FOR MR DE
VRIES. I DIDN'T ASK, DIDN'T GET
OPPORTUNITY TO ASK MY QUESTION.
I WILL. I WILL GO ASK IT ON SOME
SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORM INSTEAD.
AH AND WE'LL SEE HOW IT LANDS.
BUT I GUESS MY BOTTOM LINE POINT
IS THAT, UM YOU CAN GET A LOT
MORE OUT OF A VIRTUAL POWER
PLANT THAT ACTUALLY CONNECTS
EXISTING RESOURCES AS OPPOSED TO
HAVING TO DEFAULT TO ASSETS THAT
WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WILL WORK
THERE. BASICALLY THE LEFT BEHIND
OF THE FLEET THAT EVEN OUR
FRIENDS IN THE TRADES THE
GENERATORS THEMSELVES, SAY, YOU
KNOW WHAT? LET'S MOVE ON TO NEW
TECHNOLOGY. AND SO WHEN THE
STATE IS SORT OF, UM, USING THE
RESOURCES AT THE BOTTOM OF THE
BARREL, WE KNOW WE'VE GOT AN
ISSUE. SO I THINK YOU'RE IN A
POSITION TO UPLIFT US AND
THROUGH A CLEAN ENERGY
RELIABILITY INVESTMENT PLAN
THAT'S TRULY ROBUST. I THINK WE
CAN ACTUALLY UM, PUT MEGAWATTS
AND MEGAWATTS IN THE GROUND
EVERYWHERE, AND I THINK WE'RE ON
TRACK TO DO IT. ONE OF MY
CONCLUSIONS IS AGENCY
EMPOWERMENT HERE, TOO, AND NOT
HAVING TOO MANY SHIFTS. AND SO
IF YOU CAN SAY GIVE SOMEONE LIKE
THE ENERGY COMMISSION MORE
DIRECT AUTHORITY TO SORT OF SEE
THROUGH PROJECTS. MORE IF IT'S
THE I BANK AND ANOTHER CONTEXT,
JUST HEATING THAT I THINK WILL
BE AN IMPORTANT CONCLUSION.
GOING FORWARD. I WOULD COMMEND
TO YOU ALL THE BACKGROUND PAPER
. IT'S AN EXCELLENT COMPENDIUM
OF SOME OF THESE ISSUES, BUT WE
WILL BE FOLLOWING UP IN THE
WEEKS AHEAD. I DON'T I'LL STOP
TALKING NOW AND TURN IT OVER ANY
FINAL COMMENTS. YOU WANT TO TURN
TO PUBLIC COMMENT. YOU'RE RIGHT,
OKAY? SO WE'LL WRAP THE SECOND
PANEL REALLY APPRECIATE YOU ALL
BEING HERE AND INVITE PUBLIC
COMMENT. I SHOULD. I SHOULD MAKE
AN ANNOUNCEMENT AT THE OUTSET,
WE'LL START WITH THOSE IN THE
HEARING ROOM AND THEN WE'LL TURN
TO THE PHONE LINES. IF ANYONE
WISH TO TESTIFY THAT WAY. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH FOR MAKING TIME.
AND I'M SO SORRY. I'M GOING TO
RUN OFF THE CAUCUS, BUT, UM WHAT
A GOOD DISCUSSION AND SO MUCH
MORE TO DO. AND I WANT TO FOLLOW
UP WITH SEVERAL OF YOU
INDIVIDUALLY. ALL RIGHT, THANKS.
THANK YOU. CAN I START? THANK
YOU. CHAIR AND MEMBERS. MY NAME
IS OLIVIA SIDEMEN WITH
LEADERSHIP COUNCIL FOR JUSTICE
AND ACCOUNTABILITY BASED IN THE
SAN JOAQUIN AND EAST COACHELLA
VALLEYS. WE URGED THE
LEGISLATURE TO ENSURE THAT
CALIFORNIA USES THE
UNPRECEDENTED OPPORTUNITY OF IRA
INVESTMENTS TO MAXIMIZE BENEFITS
FOR DISADVANTAGED AND LOW INCOME
COMMUNITIES. ALL PROJECTS SHOULD
ADVISED BY A DO NO HARM
PRINCIPLE, ENSURING THAT
INVESTMENTS DON'T NEGATIVELY
IMPACT THE MOST VULNERABLE
COMMUNITIES IN CALIFORNIA. THIS
INCLUDES INVESTMENTS IN
TECHNOLOGIES LIKE DIRECT AIR
CAPTURE, HYDROGEN RECHARGE AND
CARBON CAPTURE PROJECTS THAT
HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO EXTEND THE
LIFE OF FOSSIL FUEL
INFRASTRUCTURE WHILE NOT
ADDRESSING CO POLLUTANTS FROM
EMISSIONS, THE LEGISLATURE MUST
ENSURE THAT ALL EFFORTS TO
OBTAIN IRA FUNDING AND ALL STATE
INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS IN
GENERAL CENTER THE NEEDS OF
ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE
COMMUNITIES AND PRIORITIZE
DIRECT EMISSIONS REDUCTIONS THAT
DO NOT PERPETUATE OR EXACERBATE
AIR, WATER OR OTHER POLLUTION OR
HAVE OTHER NEGATIVE IMPACTS ON
DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES. WE
SHOULD NOT BE BUILDING FASTER
WHEN DOING SO HAS THE POTENTIAL
TO HARM COMMUNITIES OR WITHOUT
DIRECT PARTICIPATION FROM
COMMUNITIES AND DECISION MAKING
. THANK YOU REALLY APPRECIATE
COMMENTS. MHM THANK YOU, SENATOR
STERN. CALL ME SOME OF THE
CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE
ALLIANCE. I WANT TO ECHO THE
COMMENTS SHARED BY THE ZACH AND
THE CALIFORNIA GREEN NEW DEAL
COALITION AND JUST SAY THAT THE
STATE SHOULD COMMIT TO A JUSTICE
PARTY. MODEL EITHER IN AN OFFICE
OR HAVING JUSTICE FOR THE STAFF
DEDICATED TO SUPPORTING
COMMUNITIES ACCESSING THESE
FUNDS DURING TODAY'S HEARING,
AND SINCE THE PASSAGE OF THIS
FUNDING, SO MUCH EMPHASIS AND
FOCUS HAS BEEN TAKEN UP BY
HYDROGEN, AND YOU MENTIONED THAT
THIS IS AN AREA WHERE THERE IS A
LOT OF TENSION. OUR COMMUNITIES
HAVE BEEN CLEAR THAT WE HAVE
CONCERNS WITH HYDROGEN AND THE
UNCHECKED HARMS THEY COULD BRING
TO LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES OF
COLOR. INSTEAD WE ASK THAT THE
SAME ENERGY AND ENTHUSIASM
ENTHUSIASM BE GIVEN TO PROGRAMS
WHERE THERE IS AGREEMENT, AND
THERE ISN'T TENSION. WE LOOK AT
THINGS LIKE THE SOLAR FOR ALL
FUNDING AND THE POTENTIAL FOR IT
TO GO TO COMMUNITY, SOLAR AND
STORAGE. THIS IS INCREDIBLY
TIMELY RIGHT NOW. APPLICATIONS
ARE HAPPENING IN ABOUT A MONTH
AND A COMPETITIVE APPLICATION
WILL BRING CRITICAL RELIABILITY
AND AFFORDABILITY IMPROVEMENTS
AS WELL AS LOCAL CITING
PROVIDING AN OPPORTUNITY TO
RETIRE OTC GAS PLANTS IN
ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE
COMMUNITIES. WE ALSO WANT TO
UPLIFT TRANSFORMATIVE CLIMATE
COMMUNITIES SUPER EXCITING TO
SEE IT SERVE AS A MODEL FOR A
FEDERAL PROGRAM. UM BUT
DISAPPOINTING TO SEE IT, UM, NOT
GET ANY FUNDING FROM OUR STATE
BUDGET. IT'S NOT REFLECTED IN
EITHER BOND PROPOSAL RIGHT NOW,
AND IT'S YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT
CERTAIN HOW COMPETITIVE
CALIFORNIA WILL BE FOR THIS
PROGRAM. OUR PROGRAM IS MUCH
MORE EXPANSIVE THAN WHAT'S
BEING, UH, PROMOTED FEDERALLY
AND SO WANT TO SEE TCC BE FUNDED
NOT ONLY THE FEDERAL FUNDING BUT
IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA AS
WELL. SO WE ASKED THAT WE FOCUS
ON AND GIVE ENERGY AND ATTENTION
TO COMMUNITY LATIN COMMUNITY
BENEFITING PROGRAMS. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH EXCELLENT INSIGHT.
ANDREW DOT FROM THE CALIFORNIA
HOUSING PARTNERSHIP. WE WORK ON
CREATING MORE SUSTAINABLE AND
AFFORDABLE HOMES FOR LOW INCOME
CALIFORNIANS. JUST KEEP IT
BRIEF. I'LL JUST KEEP IT BRIEF.
WE HAVE A LOT OF BUILDING
DECARBONIZATION PROGRAMS WITHIN
THE STATE WOULD LIKE SOME OF
THESE PROGRAMS IN IRA TO BE
LEVERAGED OR LAYERED WITH THESE
PROGRAMS IN WHATEVER WAY
POSSIBLE AND FEEL WITHIN THAT
STRUCTURE, INCLUDING THE
AFFORDABLE HOUSING FINANCE
SPACE. THANK YOU. SHORT BUT
IMPORTANT. THANK YOU FOR THE
COMMENT. THANK YOU SO MUCH,
SENATOR STERN. WELCOME THANK
YOU. ROSS REALLY APPRECIATE THIS
FORUM. UM AND I JUST WANT TO
LIFT UP A COUPLE OF THINGS I
HEARD. I WANT TO LIFT UP OUR
COLLEAGUE THAT GLUES COMMENTS
ABOUT JUSTICE 40 ABSOLUTELY
IMPORTANT THAT WE INVEST IN THIS
AND COORDINATE THOSE POLICIES TO
MAKE SURE THEY HAPPEN STATEWIDE.
UM, AND ALSO DITTO FOR MY
COLLEAGUE FROM, SAY, HA HIKING
ABOUT TRANSFORMING CLIMATE
COMMUNITIES. YOU KNOW, WE REALLY
DO NEED TO PUT OUR INVESTMENTS
WHERE OUR IDEALS ARE. UM AND
THOSE ARE TWO VERY IMPORTANT
PLACES. UM, THE LAST THING I
WANT TO MENTION IS CISCO DEGREES
MENTIONED IT'S BRATTLE GROUP
REPORT. VERY IMPORTANT REPORT.
THAT REPORT LOOKS AT WHAT WE
COULD SAVE BY USING VIRTUAL
POWER PLANTS IN CALIFORNIA
ESTIMATES A 60% COST REDUCTION
OVER GRID RESOURCES. SO BY USING
DISTRIBUTED ENERGY RESOURCES. WE
COULD SAVE 60 THAT'S OVER
UTILITY SCALE STORAGE OR GAS
PEAKER PLANTS. UM JUST TO GIVE
YOU A NUMBER TO PUT ON THAT A 35
TO $55 BILLION SAVINGS OVER 10
YEARS FOR 400 MEGAWATT RESOURCE
RELIABILITY. RESOURCE HUGE
AMOUNT, AND THAT'S JUST A
FRACTION OF WHAT CALIFORNIA
NEEDS SO THAT WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT IN THE HUNDREDS OF
BILLIONS OF DOLLARS OVER A
DECADE, SO THE RECENT ONE TO
BRING THAT UP IS IT'S REALLY
EASY TO THINK OF
INFRASTRUCTURES, TOO BIG STUFF,
AND WE DO NEED TO DO THAT. WE
TOTALLY AGREE, BUT THIS IS THE
WAY WE CAN BUY TIME AND SAVE
CALIFORNIA MONEY. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HIGH
TERRACE. UM MY NAME IS TERESA
BLUE WITH PACIFIC ENVIRONMENT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HOSTING
THIS HEARING. JUST WANT TO ECHO
THE COMMENTS FROM THE LEADERSHIP
COUNCIL IN TERMS OF MAKING SURE
THE FUNDING DOESN'T GO TO THE
WRONG PROJECT, SUCH AS FOSSIL
FUEL PROJECTS OR LIQUEFIED
NATURAL GAS. AND THAT IT'S GOING
TO PROJECTS THAT CENTER AROUND.
ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE ALSO
WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THE NEED FOR
FUNDING FOR TRANSITIONING SHIPS
TO ZERO. MISSION SHIPPING IS ONE
OF THE WORST POLLUTERS IN
CALIFORNIA, SURPASSING
LOCOMOTIVES AND HEAVY DUTY
TRUCKS. AND RIGHT NOW THERE IS A
HUGE OPPORTUNITY WITH THE U. S.
EPA $3 BILLION GRANT FOR REPORTS
THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE
CALIFORNIA IS ABLE TO TAP INTO
AND HELP. OUR COMMUNITIES
BREATHE EASIER AND HELP THE
SHIPPING COMPANIES TRANSITION TO
YOUR MISSION. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
GOOD DAY, SENATOR STERN. THANK
YOU. MY NAME IS DAVID BULLOCK. I
WORKED AT LOS ANGELES DEPARTMENT
OF WATER AND POWER. I AM HERE ON
MY OWN TIME. TAKE TIME OFF WORK
TODAY. THE REASON I TOOK TIME
OFF WORK TODAY WAS TO REACH OUT
TO OUR LOS ANGELES DEPARTMENT OF
WATER AND POWER BOARD OF
COMMISSIONERS TO ENCOURAGE THEM
TO BRING STAFF UP HERE TO FIND
OUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH
LEGISLATION AND POLICY THAT'S
BEING SAID MY UNDERSTANDING
RIGHT NOW IS THAT LOS ANGELES
HAS NOT HAD ANY INPUT INTO WHAT
IS HAPPENING. NONE OF OUR STAFF
COMES UP HERE TO HEAR WHAT'S
HAPPENING. WE JUST HAVE TO REACT
AFTER AND I'VE WATCHED OUR
ENGINEERS SCRAMBLE TO FIGURE OUT
WHAT TO DO. THE REASON I'M
ADDRESSING YOU RIGHT NOW IS WHAT
I WAS GOING TO DO IS ENCOURAGED
THE BOARD TO HAVE STAFF COME UP
HERE AND TO BE MORE INVOLVED. I
MYSELF HAVE BEEN ON PERSONAL
LEVELS HAVE COME UP HERE AND
LOBBYING ON ON DIFFERENT
LEGISLATION THAT HAS HAPPENED.
AND I'M WATCHING THIS HAPPEN
THEIR INSIGHT AND I DON'T KNOW
IF OTHER PUBLIC UTILITIES HAVE
THE SAME SITUATION WHERE THEY'RE
JUST HAVING TO REACT. WHAT IF
THE STATE DOES IS NOT HEALTHY
FOR THEM? THEY HAVE THE
EXPERIENCE OF REAL WORLD OF
ACTUALLY PROVIDING. I PROVIDE
ELECTRICITY TO THE CITY OF LOS
ANGELES. THAT'S MY JOB. SO MY
REQUEST TO YOU IS TO REACH OUT
TO THE MAYOR OF LOS ANGELES WHO
IS A FORMER ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
HERE FORMER SPEAKER AND TO
ENCOURAGE HER TO SEND HER
EMPLOYEES TO SACRAMENTO TO
UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING. AND
TO PUT INPUT. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU SO MUCH. SEEING THE OTHERS
IN THE HEARING ROOM WILL TURN TO
THE PHONE LINES MODERATE. DO WE
HAVE ANYONE IN Q ON THE PHONE
LINES? THAT WISHES TO SPEAK. IF
YOU WOULD LIKE TO REGISTER A
COMMENT, PLEASE PRESS ONE, THEN
ZERO ON YOUR TELEPHONE KEYPAD.
YOU'LL HEAR AN INDICATION YOU'VE
BEEN PLACED INTO Q 80 80
SPECIALIST WILL PROVIDE YOU WITH
YOUR LINE NUMBER BY WHICH WILL
BE IDENTIFIED. IF YOU'RE USING A
SPEAKERPHONE, WE ASK THAT YOU
PLEASE PICK UP YOUR HANDSET AND
MAKE CERTAIN THAT YOUR PHONE IS
ON MUTED BEFORE PRESSING ANY
BUTTONS. ONE MOMENT, PLEASE, FOR
OUR FIRST QUESTION OR COMMENT.
MR MR CHAIR. WE HAVE NO ONE
QUEUING UP AT THIS TIME. VERY
GOOD. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UM OKAY
, WELL, WE REALLY APPRECIATE
EVERYONE BEING HERE TODAY. I
WANT TO THANK AGAIN STAFF A LOT
OF THE LEGWORK AND A LOT OF THE
INSIGHT IS ACTUALLY NOT DONE
DURING THESE HEARINGS MOMENTS,
BUT IN THE PREPARATION FOR IT IN
THE OUTREACH AND THE
RELATIONSHIP BUILDING THAT WE'RE
STITCHING TOGETHER. I THINK THIS
HEARING IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF
THAT. SO I WANT TO THANK OUR
PRINCIPAL CONSULTANT AND MY TEAM
AGAIN FOR BEING HERE. WILL BE
FOLLOWING UP OVER NOT JUST THE
OFF SEASON, BUT I THINK THE NEXT
FEW WEEKS OF THIS LEGISLATIVE
SESSION IMPORTANT TIME TO
BOLSTER YOUR ADVOCACY EFFORTS
AND A LOT OF THE COMMENTS I HEAR
HEARD DURING THE PANELS, BUT
ALSO DURING PUBLIC COMMENT
REALLY SHOW THE NEED TO GET
FOCUSED HERE AND TRY TO HAVE
SOME BIG CLIMATE WINS DOWN THE
HOME STRETCH HERE IN THIS
SESSION, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT
COMES TO THESE INVESTMENT
OPPORTUNITIES WHERE THERE ARE
OBVIOUS NGUYEN WINS FOR THINGS
THAT HAVE FALLEN OFF THE TABLE.
UM MY EDITORIAL COMMENT IS THAT
YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T BE SATISFIED
WITH SLOWING DOWN HERE WHEN IT
COMES TO INVESTMENT. THE THOUGHT
OF OUR CLIMATE CHANGE BOND
GETTING SECOND OR THIRD OR IN
THE ORDER AND GETTING PUSHED OUT
AND SORT OF BEING AN
AFTERTHOUGHT IS NOT WHAT OUR
FRONTLINE COMMUNITIES AND OUR
WORKFORCE EXPECTS FROM US. I
THINK THE SAME GOES FOR
INVESTMENT STRATEGY. WHEN IT
COMES TO THE RESOURCES WE
CURRENTLY HAVE IN OUR BUDGET AND
HOW WE CAN LEVERAGE THOSE MORE
INTELLIGENTLY, TOO. TO GET THESE
RESOURCES ONLINE ONLINE IS
EVERYTHING. UNFORTUNATELY YOU
KNOW, THE $2.5 BILLION THAT HAVE
COME OUT OF THE STATE FOR SAY
CLEAN ENERGY IN RECENT YEARS
ACTUALLY HAS GONE TO NATURAL GAS
AND THEY'RE PROPOSING TODAY, UM
, LATER THIS WEEK, ACTUALLY TO
RE FIRE GAS PLANTS IN
DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES TO
DOUBLE THE CAPACITY OF ALICE OH
CANYON. AND TO PUT OTHER
STRESSES ON OUR SYSTEM FOR IN MY
MIND, WHAT ISN'T GOING TO
DELIVER EITHER RELIABILITY OR
CLIMATE EMISSIONS REDUCTIONS
THAT WE NEED SO MUCH, SO I
REALLY APPRECIATE SEEING SORT OF
A PATHWAY HERE FROM THE
COALITIONS THAT ARE PRESENT. AND
I THINK THIS COMMITTEE IS GOING
TO CONTINUE TO GO DO THAT BEHIND
THE SCENES WORK TO GET THAT DONE
. SO, UM, I KNOW ROSS IS ON HAND
HERE FOR ANYONE WHO WISHES TO
CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION AS I
RUN OFF TO CAUCUS, BUT IN THE
MEANTIME, SINCERELY APPRECIATE
YOUR INPUT. AND WITH THAT THIS
HEARING IS ADJOURNED.