GOOD MORNING. WE'RE GONNA CALL
THIS SELECT COMMITTEE ON
ELECTRIC VEHICLES AND CHARGING
INFRASTRUCTURE TO ORDER. UM AND
WE'RE HERE FOR AN INFORMATIONAL
HEARING TO DISCUSS ELECTRIC
VEHICLE OR EV, CHARGING OUR
FOCUS WILL BE TO DISCUSS
DIFFICULTIES AND EXPANDING E B
CHARGING ACCESS HOW INNOVATIVE
PROGRAMS AND TECHNOLOGY HELP
OVERCOME THESE BARRIERS. AND
WHAT ACTIONS THE LEGISLATURE CAN
TAKE TO ENSURE COMMUNITIES
AREN'T LEFT BEHIND IN THE
TRANSPORTATION, SUCH AS THE
TRANSPORTATION SECTOR,
ELECTRIFIES BEFORE WE BEGAN A
LITTLE BIT OF HOUSEKEEPING FIRST
. I WANNA THANK SEE SON SO MUCH
FOR HOSTING THIS HEARING SEASON
IS HERE IN MY DISTRICT ASSEMBLY
DISTRICT 40 VERY PROUD TO HAVE
THEM AS A PART OF OUR DISTRICT
AND GRATEFUL, UM TO, UM, SHARE
THIS SPACE WITH THEM TODAY, SO,
UM, AND YOU KNOW, FORTUNATELY WE
HAVE A PROFESSOR FROM SEASON WHO
WILL BE SPEAKING LATER TO TIE IN
THE WORK THEY'RE DOING HERE,
WHICH IS PHENOMENAL. THE, UM.
NEXT WORD NOT GOING TO HAVE
PHONE TESTIMONY. UM AND SO UH
UM. PUBLIC COMMENT WILL BE
EITHER SUBMITTED VIA EMAIL TO
THE COMMITTEE. UM OR IN PERSON.
ADDITIONALLY ALL MAINTAIN
DECORUM DURING THE HEARING. WE
WILL NOT PERMIT CONDUCT THAT
DISRUPTS OR OTHERWISE IMPEDES
THE HEARING. ANY INDIVIDUAL WHO
IS DISRUPTIVE MAY BE REMOVED
FROM THE ROOM. SO THE
TRANSPORTATION SECTOR IS
CURRENTLY THE LARGEST SOURCE OF
GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS IN
CALIFORNIA, AND E V S WILL BE
CRITICAL TO MEETING OUR EMISSION
REDUCTION GOALS WHILE THE PRIOR
JOINT HEARING WITH THE UTILITIES
AND ENERGY COMMITTEE FOCUSED
HEAVILY ON GRID DEMAND AND GRID
INFRASTRUCTURE, THIS HEARING
WILL FOCUS ON CHARGING
INFRASTRUCTURE AND CHARGER
DEPLOYMENT. STATE AS THE STATE
ESTIMATES PROJECTS. THE STATE
ESTIMATES PROJECT THAT WE NEED A
MILLION MILLIONS OF CHARGERS IN
ORDER TO SUPPORT WIDESPREAD
ADOPTION OF E V S. THIS IS A
TALL ORDER, BUT CALIFORNIA IS
DEFINITELY UP TO THE CHALLENGE.
AS A NUMBER OF PROGRAMS AND
FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES HAVE BEEN
INSTITUTED TO SUPPORT
INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPMENT AT
THE STATE AND LOCAL LEVEL.
HOWEVER WE'RE ALREADY FINDING
DISPARITIES AND WHO HAS ACCESS
TO CHARGING AS WELL AS AS WELL
AS COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE HAVE
BEEN ABLE TO BENEFIT FROM THE
EXPANSION OF E V S. THE GOAL OF
THIS HEARING IS TO DELVE INTO
THE CHALLENGES AS WELL AS
EXPLORE NOVEL APPROACHES TO
REDUCE THESE DISPARITIES. WITH
THAT I'LL OPEN IT UP TO ANY
OPENING REMARKS FROM MY
COLLEAGUE ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
CONNOLLY, WHO I APPRECIATE BEING
HERE AS WELL. THANK YOU. CHAIR
SHOT A GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
IT IS A PLEASURE TO BE HERE. I'M
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S DAMON CONNOLLY
FROM MORAN AND SONOMA COUNTY'S
SO HAPPY TO BE HERE. AND WANT TO
ACKNOWLEDGE OUR CHAIR ARE GREAT
COMMITTEE STAFF AND THE
PANELISTS FOR BEING HERE TODAY
AND MOVING THE NEEDLE ON THIS
IMPORTANT CONVERSATION. THE
SUCCESS OF ELECTRIFYING
CALIFORNIA AS WE ALL KNOW IS KEY
TO MEETING OUR CLEAN ENERGY
GOALS AND REDUCING GHG
EMISSIONS. WE MUST GET THIS
RIGHT AND MOVE FAST TO ENSURE A
CLEANER AND MORE SUSTAINABLE
FUTURE. SO I LOOK FORWARD TO THE
DISCUSSION TODAY ABOUT HOW WE
CAN IMPROVE THESE EFFORTS AND
CLOSE THE GAP. IN PARTICULAR IN
BUILDING ENOUGH CHARGING
INFRASTRUCTURE TO MEET
CALIFORNIA'S GROWING NEEDS. SO
WITH THAT, THANK YOU AGAIN AND
LOOKING FORWARD TO THE
DISCUSSION TODAY. THANK YOU SO
MUCH. ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S SO THE
FIRST PANEL, UM INCLUDES
INDIVIDUALS. WITH THE, UM. BOTH
OF THE C E. C AND BE, UM CAL
START AND, UM I'LL ASK THE
PANELISTS TO PROVIDE OPENING
STATEMENTS AND THEN WE CAN TURN
TO THE COMMITTEE FOR QUESTIONS.
WE WANTED TO START WITH. MARK
WENTZEL, BRANCH MANAGER OF THE
LIGHT DUTY ELECTRIC
INFRASTRUCTURE AND ANALYSIS
BRANCH AT CALIFORNIA ENERGY
COMMISSION, AND I THINK BECAUSE
OF REDIRECTION ZOO OF FLIGHTS
THIS MORNING, HE IS ON THE
SCREEN INSTEAD OF HEARING PERSON
SO SORRY. SORRY FOR THE CHANGES,
BUT THANKS FOR BEING FLEXIBLE
MARK. GOOD MORNING, SHERIFF. SHE
ALTHOUGH IT'S I'M VERY SORRY NOT
TO BE ABLE TO JOIN YOU IN
PERSON. I WAS REALLY LOOKING
FORWARD TO THIS. I DO HAVE A
FRUIT PREPARED REMARKS, BUT
LET'S PRETEND I'M MAKING GOOD
EYE CONTACT AND ARE REALLY
ENGAGING ON THIS AND BEFORE ANY
QUESTIONS AT THE END AS WELL,
THANK YOU SO CHERISH AVO AND MR
CONNELLY. THANK YOU FOR THE
CHANCE TO PRESENT TO YOU TODAY.
MY NAME IS MARK WENZEL AND I'M
THE MANAGER OF THE LIGHT DUTY
ELECTRIC VEHICLE INFRASTRUCTURE
AND ANALYSIS BRANCH OF THE
CALIFORNIA ENERGY COMMISSION.
THIS IS A REALLY EXCITING TIME
TO BE WORKING IN TVS AND
CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE. ABOUT
ONE IN FOUR NEW VEHICLES
PURCHASED IN CALIFORNIA IS
ELECTRIC. ALREADY THE STATE HIT
ITS SALES TARGET OF 1 EMISSION
VEHICLES TWO YEARS EARLY. THE
GOVERNOR ALSO ANNOUNCED LAST
MONTH THAT WE HAVE HIT OUR
TARGET OF 10,000 FAST CHARGERS
TWO YEARS EARLY. AS YOU KNOW,
THE LEGISLATURE HAS APPROPRIATED
OR ALLOCATED ABOUT $3 BILLION
OVER SIX YEARS TO THE CEO FOR
SEVEN FOR STRUCTURE AND THE
REAUTHORIZATION OF THE CLEAN
TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM WILL ADD
ABOUT $100 MILLION PER YEAR FOR
INFRASTRUCTURE, WORKFORCE,
DEVELOPMENT AND OTHER
INVESTMENTS. WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR
THIS OPPORTUNITY, RESPONSIBILITY
, AND WE THINK A LOT ABOUT HOW
TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE
MAXIMIZING IMPACT FROM TAXPAYER
FUNDS. THE CDC IS COMMITTED TO
ADDRESSING EQUITY IN THE
TRANSITION TO ZERO EMISSION
TRANSPORTATION. I'D LIKE TO TALK
A BIT ABOUT SOMEBODY ANALYSIS
THAT WE DO THAT INFORMS
INVESTMENT DECISIONS AND THEN TO
SOME OF OUR FUNDING FOR ADVANCED
TECHNOLOGIES. I WANT ANALYSIS WE
DO IS THE INFRASTRUCTURE PLAN OR
THE ZIP. WHICH IS THE STATEWIDE
INFRASTRUCTURE STRATEGY. THE CDC
LEADS DEVELOPMENT OF THE ZIP AND
CONSULTATION WITH OTHER STATE
AGENCIES. THE FIRST VERSION WAS
PUBLISHED AT THE END OF LAST
YEAR, AND THE SECOND ONE IS
TARGETED FOR A DRAFT FOR PUBLIC
COMMENT. NEXT SUMMER. ZIP
FOCUSES ON TWO PRINCIPLES,
ACCELERATING DEPLOYMENT AND
ADDRESSING EQUITY AND CONNECTING
THOSE PRINCIPLES TO ACTIONS THAT
THE STATE TAKES. ONE BENEFIT OF
THIS PLANNING IS THAT IT BRINGS
TOGETHER INVESTMENTS BY THE CDC
AND OTHERS, ESPECIALLY THOSE
APPROVED BY THE PUBLIC UTILITIES
COMMISSION, AND HIGHLIGHTS THE
NEED AND THE OPPORTUNITY FOR
COMPLEMENTARITY. A SECOND
ANALYSIS IS A LOOK AT THE
GEOGRAPHICAL DISTRIBUTION OF
CHARGERS AND THE IMPLICATIONS
FOR EQUITY DONE UNDER SB 1000.
THE FIRST REPORT SHOWED THAT
THERE WERE FEWER CHARGES PER
CAPITA IN LOW INCOME
COMMUNITIES. THE SECOND LOOKED
AT DRIVING TIMES IN THE NEAREST
DC FAST CHARGER AND FOUND SOME
DISPARITIES IN ACCESS EVEN
WITHIN DISADVANTAGED AND LOW
INCOME COMMUNITIES. WE'RE
WORKING ON A THIRD REPORT FOR
NEXT YEAR THAT WILL LOOK AT
ACCESS TO HOME CHARGING ACROSS
THE SAME CATEGORIES. ALL OF
THESE IN THE FORM THE ANNUAL
CLEAN TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM
INVESTMENT PLAN, WHICH ARE
COMMISSION ADOPTS TO SET THE
FUNDING PRIORITIES. WE SEEK OUT
PUBLIC COMMENT ON ALL OF THESE
EFFORTS ON EQUITY, SPECIFICALLY
THE C E. C AND THE PUBLIC
UTILITIES COMMISSION WORK WITH
THE DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES
ADVISORY GROUP, WHICH MEETS
MONTHLY AND HAS GROUPS OF
SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS,
INCLUDING ONE ON TRANSPORTATION
ELECTRIFICATION. INVESTMENTS BY
THE CCR. ALSO INFORMED BY THE
INVESTMENT PLAN ADVISORY
COMMITTEE, WHICH INCLUDES
REPRESENTATIVES OF GROUPS
SERVING DISADVANTAGED AND LOW
AND COMMUNITIES. WE HAVE SEVERAL
APPROACHES TO INCORPORATING
EQUITY CONSIDERATIONS AND
INFRASTRUCTURE STRATEGY. ONE IS
A FOCUS ON MEDIUM AND HEAVY DUTY
VEHICLES. THESE VEHICLES TEND TO
HAVE GREATER EMISSIONS PER MILE
DRIVE MORE MILES. I TEND TO BE
OPERATED IN DISTRICTS SUCH AS
WAREHOUSE DISTRICTS AND AROUND
PORTS, MAKING THEIR AIR QUALITY
IMPACTS DISPROPORTIONATELY
CONCENTRATED. MORE THAN HALF OF
FLOUR FUNDING FOR INFRASTRUCTURE
IS DEDICATED TO ACCELERATING THE
TRANSITION TO ZERO MISSION
MEDIUM AND HEAVY DUTY VEHICLES.
A SECOND APPROACH IS THE EXCESS
COMMITMENT TO AT LEAST 50% OF
ITS INVESTMENTS BEING DEPLOYED
IN LOW INCOME OR DISADVANTAGED
COMMUNITIES. OVERALL ABOUT 68%
OF FUNDING HAS GONE TO PROJECTS
IN DISADVANTAGED LOW INCOME
COMMUNITIES. AND WITH THE RECENT
ENACTMENT OF A B 1 26. THAT
COMMITMENT IS NOW CODIFIED AS A
STATUTORY REQUIREMENT THAT AT
LEAST 50% OF THE FUNDING BE
SPENT. ON PROGRAMS AND PROJECTS
THAT DIRECTLY BENEFIT OR SERVE
RESIDENTS OF DISADVANTAGE AND
LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES AND LOW
INCOME CALIFORNIANS. THIS POINTS
TO OTHER MEASURES OF BENEFIT AND
SERVED THAN WHETHER A PROJECT IS
LOCATED WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF
A CENSUS TRACK DESIGNATED AS
DISADVANTAGED OR LOW INCOME. THE
TOPIC. THE CEO HAS BEEN WORKING
ON HOLDING WORKSHOPS AND
LISTENING SESSIONS STARTING
ABOUT A YEAR AGO. AND WILL BE
DEVELOPING A PROCESS TO DEFINE
AND MEASURE THESE BENEFITS FOR
SPECIFIC FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES.
A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF OUR
EFFORT IS ON DEPLOYMENT OF
EXISTING TECHNOLOGIES TO HELP
MEET THE NEEDS OF THE RAPIDLY
GROWING MARKET. EVEN WITHIN THAT
FOCUS, WE SEE A SIGNIFICANT
AMOUNT OF INNOVATION, FOR
EXAMPLE, IN THE RATES OF FAST
CHARGING THE MINIMUM POWER RATE
WE NOW FUND FOR FAST CHARGING IS
150 KILOWATTS. WE ALSO HAVE
FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES. THEY'RE
AIMED AT NEWER TECHNOLOGIES. THE
CDC FUNDS, RESEARCH AND
DEVELOPMENT THROUGH EPIC THE
ELECTORAL PROGRAM INVESTMENT
CHARGE. AND ABOUT $50 MILLION
HAS PLANNED FOR TRANSPORTATION
ELECTRIFICATION RESEARCH,
INCLUDING EFFICIENT
TRANSPORTATION, ELECTRIFICATION
AND CHARGING TECHNOLOGIES, AND
THESE GRANT FUNDING
OPPORTUNITIES ARE UNDER
DEVELOPMENT NOW. WE ALSO HAD A
FUNDING OPPORTUNITY FOR
INNOVATIVE CHARGING SOLUTIONS
WITH CATEGORIES FOR LIGHT DUTY
AND MEDIUM AND HEAVY DUTY
VEHICLES. AND WE HAVE A SECOND
OPPORTUNITY FOR MEDIUM AND HEAVY
DUTY OPEN NOW, WITH APPLICATIONS
DUE ON FRIDAY. SO ADVANCED
TECHNOLOGIES SUCH AS WIRELESS
CHARGING ARE ALSO ELIGIBLE FOR
INCENTIVES UNDER ENERGIZED ARE
MEDIUM AND HEAVY DUTY
INFRASTRUCTURE BLOCK GRANT
ADMINISTERED BY CAL START WHICH
ELISSA HERALDING, THEY TALK MORE
ABOUT THE MARKET IS RAPIDLY
EVOLVING, AND EVERY DAY IT SEEMS
THAT THERE ARE NEW TECHNOLOGIES,
CONCERNS AND OPPORTUNITIES. WE
LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO
WORK WITH PARTNERS, INCLUDING
THE LEGISLATURE TO ADDRESS
EQUITY AND ACCELERATE
DEPLOYMENT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
SO MUCH. MARK UM AND IF YOU CAN
HOLD ON, WE WILL ASK QUESTIONS
AFTER ALYSSA'S ABLE TO PRESENT
AS WELL, SO I WANT TO TURN IT
OVER TO ALYSSA. HAROLD THE
DIRECTOR OF INFRASTRUCTURE
INCENTIVE ADMINISTRATION AT CAL,
START.
THANK YOU SELECT COMMITTEE AND
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S CHAVO FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY. MY
NAME IS ALYSSA HURLEY AND I'M
THE DIRECTOR OF INFRASTRUCTURE
INCENTIVE ADMINISTRATION AT CAL
START I OVERSEE THE INCENTIVE
PROGRAMS, ENERGIZED COMMUNITY
AND COMMUNITIES IN CHARGE,
ENERGIZES FOR MEDIUM AND HEAVY
DUTY, E V AND HYDROGEN REFUELING
EQUIPMENT. AND COMMUNITIES IN
CHARGE IS FOR LIGHT DUTY LEVEL,
TOO HEAVY INFRASTRUCTURE. AND WE
ADMINISTER THESE PROGRAMS ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA ENERGY
COMMISSION. CARL STAR IS A
GLOBAL NONPROFIT. WE WORK TO
ACCELERATE CLEAN TRANSPORTATION.
OUR WORK SPANS THE STATE, UNITED
STATES AND INTERNATIONALLY THAT
WE STARTED HERE IN CALIFORNIA
AND WORK TO SPREAD THE LESSONS
AND LEADERSHIP THAT CALIFORNIA
HAS IN ELECTRIC VEHICLE IN CLEAN
TRANSPORTATION. WE APPLAUD
CALIFORNIA'S LEADERSHIP IN THIS
SPACE, SO ALSO WORK. THIS SELECT
COMMITTEE HAS DONE TO FOCUS ON
TV AND INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE
TOPIC OF EQUITY TODAY. WE ALSO
APPLAUD THE HISTORIC INVESTMENTS
THE STATE IS MAKING IN THE
INTENTIONALITY THAT IS EMBEDDED
WITHIN FOR, UM CONSIDERING
DISADVANTAGE AND LOW INCOME
COMMUNITIES IN THE FUNDING AND
PROGRAMS. WE THINK THIS IS VERY
IMPORTANT TO SPREAD THE BENEFITS
OF ELECTRIFICATION THROUGHOUT
THE STATE AND TO THE COMMUNITIES
MOST AFFECTED AND BURDENED BY
AIR QUALITY HEALTH DISPARITIES
AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT OF
TRANSPORTATION EMISSIONS. I ALSO
WANT TO THANK ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
SHIAVO FOR YOUR HELP WITH A B 1
26 AND THE AUTHOR SENATORS
GONZALEZ AND ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
RAISE FOR THEIR EFFORTS TO PASS
THIS LEGISLATION THAT CONTINUES
PROVIDING EQUITABLE FUNDING FOR
THE CLEAN TRANSPORTATION
PROGRAM. THE TIMELY AND
EQUITABLE DEPLOYMENT OF RELIABLE
CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURES
INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT. AND I'LL
REVIEW A FEW PROGRAMS AND
ACTIVITIES THAT COUNSELOR HAS
DONE BUT ALSO EMBED EQUITY WITH
OUR PROGRAMS. SO FIRST AS, UM.
THE ASSEMBLY MEMBER KNOWS
COMMUNITIES IN CHARGE IS, UH,
EQUITY AND COMMUNITY FOCUS
PROGRAM THAT WE ADMINISTER ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA ENERGY
COMMISSION. THIS IS FOR LIGHT
DUTY LEVEL TO INFRASTRUCTURE. WE
ARE ENGAGED IN EXTENSIVE
COMMUNITY INDUSTRY AND FUNDING
STAKEHOLDER GROUPS IN THE DESIGN
OF THIS PROGRAM. UM AS THE AT
THE STATE'S DIRECTION AS WELL.
WE HAVE A MINIMUM OF 50% OF
FUNDING GOES TO PRIORITY
POPULATIONS, WHICH ARE
DISADVANTAGED AND LOW INCOME
COMMUNITIES AS WELL AS TRIBAL
NATIONS. AND WE HAVE ELEVATED
PRIORITY WITHIN FOR, UM. FOR
CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS
GOING TO BENEFIT. COMMUNITIES
AND WHICH IS. UM ALIGNED AROUND
COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS. WE WORKED
WITH COMMUNITY BASED
ORGANIZATIONS AND STAKEHOLDERS
TO IDENTIFY THE TYPES OF
COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS THAT
COMMUNITIES WOULD FIND MOST
BENEFIT WHERE THEY LIVE, WORK
AND GATHER. SO THESE INCLUDE, UM
NONPROFITS IN CHARGE
CONGREGATIONS IN CHARGE TRIBES
IN CHARGE HEALTHCARE AND CHARGE
LOCAL GOVERNMENTS IN CHARGE. AND
THE NUMBER OF OTHERS AS WELL.
SCHOOLS IN CHARGE. AND PROGRAMS
THAT ALIGN WITH THESE COMMUNITY
CONNECTIONS AS WELL AS THOSE
LOCATED IN DISADVANTAGED AND LOW
INCOME COMMUNITIES. THOSE THAT
ARE GOING TOWARDS MULTI FAMILY,
HOUSING AND WORKPLACE IN CHARGE.
I'M SORRY. WORKPLACES. UM ALSO
RECEIVE ELEVATED PRIORITY WITHIN
THESE PROGRAMS. WE ALSO HAVE
PROCESSES IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE
THAT NO LESS THAN 50% OF FUNDING
GOES TOWARDS DISADVANTAGED AND
LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES. PRIORITY
POPULATIONS IS TO FIND BY THE
STATE. THE NEXT PROGRAM THAT
WILL OVER VIEW IS ENERGIZED.
THIS IS THE, UH, THE UNITED
STATES' FIRST MEDIUM AND HEAVY
DUTY CHARGING PROGRAM. THIS IS
FOR EVIE CHARGING AND FOR
HYDROGEN INFRASTRUCTURE. WE ALSO
HAVE WE HAVE STANDARDS LANES.
FOR UM FOUR LANES THROUGHOUT THE
YEAR. AH ONE IS FAST TRACK. THIS
IS FOR PROGRAMS THAT ARE MOST
READY TO GO AND FOR FLEET
CHARGING. WE HAVE HYDROGEN LANE,
WHICH IS FOCUSED ON PUBLIC AND
PRIVATE HYDROGEN REFUELING
INFRASTRUCTURE. WE HAVE AN
EQUITY FOCUS LANE CALLED TV JUMP
START. YOU HAVE TO MEET CERTAIN
EQUITY CRITERIA IN ORDER TO
QUALIFY FOR THAT LANE THAT LANE
ALSO RECEIVES ELEVATED FUNDING.
AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE A PUBLIC
CHARGING LANE, WHICH FOCUSES ON
PUBLIC AND SHARED CHARGING FOR
MEDIUM AND HEAVY DUTY VEHICLES
AS WELL AS OFF ROAD EQUIPMENT.
SO WITHIN OUR. EQUITY
CONSIDERATIONS. THIS INCLUDE
LOCATION IN DISADVANTAGE OF LOW
INCOME COMMUNITIES AS WELL AS UM
MINORITY WOMEN OWNED BUSINESSES,
SCHOOLS THAT BENEFIT
DISADVANTAGED AND LOW INCOME
COMMUNITIES AND TRANSIT THAT
BENEFITS AND SERVES DISADVANTAGE
IN LONDON COULD COMMUNITIES AS
WELL AS, UM SOME ADDITIONAL
EQUITY CONSIDERATIONS. WE ALSO
HAVE SET ASIDE FUNDING THAT IS
COORDINATED WITH THE VEHICLE
VOUCHER PROGRAM. THAT INCLUDES
OF LOCATIONS SUCH AS TRANSIT.
TRADE WHICH ARE HEAVY DUTY
TRUCKS GOING IN AND OUT OF PORTS
AND RAIL YARDS. AS WELL AS
SCHOOLS. THAT IS THE ENERGIZED
PROGRAM. A COUPLE OF OTHER
PROGRAMS, SO I DON'T DIRECTLY
OVERSEE. THEY DO INCLUDE ASPECTS
FOR FUNDING INFRASTRUCTURE, AS
WELL AS CONSIDERATION FOR EQUITY
. SO CORE IS THE CALIFORNIA OFF
ROAD EQUIPMENT PROGRAM, WHICH
PROVIDES BENEFITS FOR ELECTRIC
AND CLEAN OFF ROAD EQUIPMENT.
THESE ALSO INCLUDE PLUS UPS FOR
INFRASTRUCTURE. AND PLUS UPS
FOR, UM THE DISADVANTAGE OF LOW
INCOME COMMUNITIES. WE ALSO HAVE
THE CLEAN MOBILITY OPTIONS
PROGRAM. WHICH ALLIANCE FUNDING
TOWARDS DISADVANTAGE AND LOW
INCOME COMMUNITIES WHERE THERE
IS A DIRECT BENEFIT, BUT ALSO
ALIGNMENT WITH THOSE COMMUNITIES
. THE THERE IS A TWO PARTS WHERE
FUNDING GOES TOWARDS HER
COMMUNITY NEEDS ASSESSMENTS
WHERE THE COMMUNITIES CAN
IDENTIFY WHAT TYPES OF
INNOVATIVE MOBILITY OPTIONS THEY
WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THEIR
COMMUNITY. AND THEN AN
IMPLEMENTATION SIDE, WHICH FUNDS
COMMUNITIES TO ENACT THESE
PROGRAMS. THAT ALIGN WITH
COMMUNITY NEEDS ASSESSMENTS, SO
THESE CAN INCLUDE CAR SHARE
BIKES, A NUMBER OF OTHER THINGS
AS WELL AS TV INFRASTRUCTURE CAN
BE FUNDED AS WELL THROUGH THIS
PROGRAM. AND ELIGIBILITY IS
AROUND DISADVANTAGE AND LOW
INCOME COMMUNITIES AND THE
BENEFITS THAT IT PROVIDES. UM I
ALSO PROVIDED THE. THE ASSEMBLY
MEMBER SHE OTHER WITH, UM SOME
WORK THAT WE HAVE RECENTLY DONE
ON ENERGY IZATION TIMELINES.
LAST MONTH, WE HELD A SESSION OF
BANGING INDUSTRY IN SACRAMENTO
FOCUSED ON REDUCING THE
TIMELINES FOR ENERGY IZATION AND
INTERCONNECTION FOR EVIE
CHARGING EQUIPMENT PROVIDED THE
NOTES. UM AND AH AS WELL. ALONG
WITH THAT WE ALSO HAVE AN EQUITY
SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT THAT IS
SPECIFICALLY FOCUSED AROUND OUR
STRATEGY FOR INCLUDING
CONSIDERATIONS OF EQUITY DEFINED
BY THE STATE WITHIN CALIFORNIA
AND OTHER STATES AROUND THE
UNITED STATES, AS WELL AS
JUSTICE 40 TO SEE HOW EQUITY CAN
BE, UM MOST ALIGNED WITH WHAT
COMMUNITIES AND STAKEHOLDERS MAY
WANT TO SEE AS WELL AS WHAT
BENEFITS ME GO IN, AND HOW WE
CAN INCLUDE THAT IN INCENTIVE
PROGRAMS AS WE LOOK TO REPLICATE
THE LEARNINGS THAT CALIFORNIA
AND THE LEARNINGS AND DESCRIBES
FORWARD THAT CALIFORNIA HAS MAKE
AND MAKING EQUITABLE EQUITABLE
INVESTMENTS INTO CLEAN
TRANSPORTATION. SO WITH THAT
THANK YOU SELECT COMMITTEE AND
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S SHADOW FOR
HAVING ME TODAY. AND THANK YOU
MARK AS WELL. MY CO PANELIST.
THANK YOU BOTH SO MUCH. UM IT'S
REALLY WONDERFUL TO HEAR ABOUT
THE GOOD WORK THAT'S HAPPENING.
AND UM, WE JUST WANTED TO OPEN
IT UP TO QUESTIONS. NOW. I'LL
TURN IT OVER TO MY COLLEAGUE TO
SEE IF HE HAS SOME QUESTIONS
HE'D LIKE TO ASK. THANK YOU AND
APPRECIATE THAT TESTIMONY. I
WANTED TO COVER A COUPLE OF
TOPICS WITH THE WITNESSES. WHAT
I'LL CALL KIND OF THE GROWING
CHARGING NEED, WHICH IS A THEME.
WE'RE GOING TO BE HEARING A LOT
ABOUT TODAY. AS WELL AS UNEQUAL
ACCESS TO CHARGING IT WAS A
MANSION. I BELIEVE BY UM MARK
THE BUDGET ACTIONS HAVE INVESTED
MILLIONS INTO SUPPORTING
INDIVIDUALS AND COMMUNITIES AND
MAKING THE TRANSITION TOWARD
ZERO EMISSION VEHICLES. QUESTION
OF THE PANEL. HOW MUCH OF THESE
INVESTMENTS ARE DESIGNATED
TOWARDS PUBLIC CHARGING
STATIONS? AND IN PARTICULAR, IF
WE HAVE A SENSE OF HOW MUCH
FUNDING WENT TOWARDS BUILDING
PUBLIC CHARGING STATIONS LAST
YEAR. ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S BISMARCK
ONCE. WELL SPEAKING, I'M SORRY.
I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THAT
NUMBER OFF HAND. THAT'S NOT THE
WAY THAT WE HAVE BROKEN IT DOWN
IN OUR REPORTING. I'M AFRAID
WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET BACK TO
YOU ON THAT ONE. OKAY. I
APPRECIATE THAT. UM AND
PARTICULARLY, UM, AND I'M KIND
OF ALSO WEARING MY UTILITIES AND
ENERGY COMMITTEE HAD AS WELL
WOULD BE INTERESTED IN HOW MANY
CHARGING STATIONS HAVE BEEN
BUILT AS A RESULT OF STATE
FINDING. UM DO WE HAVE A TOTAL
NUMBER STATEWIDE TODAY ON THAT?
WE DO HAVE THAT NUMBER. UM IT IS
AROUND 12,000 CHARGING STATIONS
THAT THE STATE HAS FUNDED THAT
ARE INSTALLED AN ACTIVE NOW AND
WE HAVE ANOTHER ABOUT THAT
NUMBER IN THE PIPELINE. OKAY
GREAT. AND WHAT IS THE CURRENT
TIMELINE LOOKING LIKE FOR
MEETING OUR E V CHARGING STATION
INFRASTRUCTURE GOALS. THANK YOU.
SO, AS I MENTIONED WE DIDN'T EAT
THE GOAL OF 10,000, DC FAST
STATIONS TWO YEARS EARLY. THE
GOAL OF 250,000 LEVEL TWO
STATIONS OR TOTAL PUBLIC AND
PRIVATE SHARED STATIONS BY 2025.
WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO TRACK THAT
THE FUNDING IS THERE FOR THEM OR
LOOKING AT THE TIMING VERY
CLOSELY. WE ARE NOT 100%
CONTINENT. WE'RE GONNA HIT 2025,
BUT WE THINK IT WILL BE BY 2026
GREAT. YOU YOU KIND OF
ANTICIPATED MY QUESTION. AND ARE
WE ON TRACK TO MEET OUR GOALS?
IT SOUNDS LIKE A LITTLE BIT
EARLY. IN TERMS OF CURRENT IN
TERMS OF 2025 YOU BELIEVE, AT
LEAST BY 26. WE COULD MEET THAT
ADDITIONAL TARGET. YES THAT'S
WHERE WE'RE TRACKING IT. NOW I
WILL SAY THE THERE IS A BIT OF A
TRADE OFF BETWEEN THE DC FAST
CHARGING AND THE LIBERAL TO
CHARGING. SO OUR MODELING CALLS
FOR SOME NUMBER OF DC FAST AND
SOME NUMBER OF LEVEL TO THE MORE
DC FAST THERE IS, THE LESS LEVEL
TWO IS NEEDED, AND VICE VERSA.
SO I WOULDN'T SAY EVEN THOUGH
WE'RE NOT QUITE ON TARGET FOR
THOSE GOALS THAT WE'RE SET. 10
YEARS AGO. IN TERMS OF THE RATIO
BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM. WE
THINK THAT WE'RE DOING ALL RIGHT
, OBVIOUSLY, A LOT MORE TO BE
DONE, BUT WE THINK WE'RE DOING
ALL RIGHT ON THE NUMBER OF
CHARGERS AVAILABLE IN TOTAL,
THANKS, AND OBVIOUSLY ONE
PARTICULAR INTEREST OF OURS ON
THE SELECT COMMITTEE IS TO THE
EXTENT THERE IS A GAP OR
ANTICIPATED GAP. HOW CAN THE
LEGISLATURE ACT TO HELP CLOSE
THAT OR WHAT DO WE NEED TO BE
DOING? UM AS A STATE, UM, DO YOU
HAVE ANY KIND OF SENSE OF THAT
RIGHT NOW? UM ARE THERE
ADDITIONAL THINGS WE CAN DO TO
IF NOT MEET THE 25 GOAL, AT
LEAST GET AS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE.
WELL THANK YOU. I MEAN, I
MENTIONED THAT WE'RE REALLY
GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY AND
THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE
FUNDING THAT THE LEGISLATURE HAS
APPROPRIATED AND ALLOCATED. AND
WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF
CONTINUING TO DEVELOP WHAT THAT
LOOKS LIKE OVER TIME AND WILL
CONTINUE TO EVOLVE OVER TIME IN
TERMS OF SPECIFIC ROLES FOR THE
LEGISLATURE. I THINK IT'S WORTH
MY JOB TO MAKE A COMMENT NOW.
BUT THERE'S A FORMAL PROCESS FOR
THE ADMINISTRATION TO MAKE THOSE
PROPOSALS. AND WE REALLY LOOK
FORWARD TO WORKING THROUGH THAT
PROCESS AND BEING PART OF THAT
PARTNERSHIP. APPRECIATE THAT. UM
OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE A 2030 GOAL IN
TERMS OF E V ADOPTION. SO ONE
QUESTION IS OBVIOUSLY ALLOCATION
OF FUNDS WITHIN THAT GOAL,
INCLUDING TOWARD PUBLIC AND
CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE, SO I
GUESS I WILL JUST THROW THIS
QUESTION OUT THERE AS PART OF
THAT. BROADER DISCUSSION, UM,
WOULD ADVOCATE ALLOCATING A
HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF THE FUNDS
AVAILABLE. FOURS EVS AS WE
APPROACH 2030 TO BUILDING
CHARGING STATIONS HELP REACH THE
2030 GOAL. YEAH I THINK I THINK
THAT'S REALLY AN INTERESTING
QUESTION AND SOMETHING THAT
DESERVES SOME DYNAMIC MANAGEMENT
AS WE WATCHED THE TRENDS BOTH IN
E V, UH, DEPLOYMENT AND AN E V
CHARGING DEPLOYMENT. UH AS YOU
KNOW, VERY BROADLY, THE
CALIFORNIA AIR RESOURCES BOARD
MANAGES THE VEHICLE SIDE OF
THINGS, INCLUDING REGULATIONS
AND INVESTMENTS IN THE CTC VERY
BROADLY HAS THE INFRASTRUCTURE
SIDE, INCLUDING REGULATIONS AND
INVESTMENTS. UH THE
ADMINISTRATION PROPOSALS TAKE
INTO ACCOUNT BOTH THE NEEDS AND
THE OPPORTUNITIES IDENTIFIED BY
BOTH OF THOSE AGENCIES AND
OTHERS. AND SO I THINK THE
ADMINISTRATION POSITION IS
PROBABLY BEST REFLECTED IN THE
ANNUAL BUDGETS THAT THE
GOVERNMENT GOVERNOR PRESENTS.
GREAT AND MAYBE TURNING INTO A
LIST ON KIND OF UNEQUAL ACCESS
TO CHARGING WHICH YOU HIT ON. UM
IN YOUR TESTIMONY, AND THE
PERCEPTION IS, IT IS MORE
DIFFICULT TO INSTALL AND MULTI
FAMILY HOUSING SCENARIOS
WONDERING IF YOU CAN COMMENT
FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE. WHY IS
THAT? UM AND KIND OF WHAT CAN WE
DO ABOUT IT? THAT IS AN ASPECT
THAT CAL STAR IS STUDYING
FURTHER WHAT I CAN SAY WITHIN
COMMUNITIES IN CHARGE AND OUR
1ST 1ST FUNDING WAVE EARLIER
THIS YEAR, WE DID GET AN
INCREDIBLE DEMAND FOR CHARGING
AND MULTI FAMILY HOUSING AND
WILL LOOK TO HOW THAT PROGRESSES
. WE KNOW THAT THERE'S AN
INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF INTEREST
HOME CHARGING WILL BE INCREDIBLY
IMPORTANT. AND WE CERTAINLY WANT
TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE, UH,
LIVING IN MULTI FAMILY HOUSING
HAVE ACCESSIBILITY TO CHARGING
INFRASTRUCTURE. WE DO KNOW THAT
THERE MAY BE SOME DIFFERENCES IN
THE GRID AVAILABILITY FOR
BUILDINGS OF THAT SIZE. UM, BUT
UM, WE THINK THAT IT'S
INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO MEET
THAT DEMAND. WE ALSO THINK
WORKPLACE CHARGING CAN ALSO BE
OF BENEFIT TO THOSE WHO MAY NOT.
UM DIRECTLY HAVE ACCESSIBILITY
AT HOME OR WHO MAY HAVE, UH
SLOWER LEVEL CHARGING AT HOME.
BUT THE UNDERLYING ASSUMPTION
SOUNDS LIKE THERE IS INCREASING
DEMAND. WE'VE SAID WE'VE SEEN
INCREDIBLE INTEREST IN MULTI
FAMILY HOUSING, CHARGING A LARGE
PROPORTION OF FUNDING THAT WAS
REQUESTED DURING THAT FUNDING.
LANE WAS FOR MULTI FAMILY
HOUSING. SO KIND OF SAME BROAD
QUESTION. WHAT CAN WE DO? UM
FROM YOUR STANDPOINT AND JUST TO
THROW IT OUT THERE, ARE THERE
ANY REGULATIONS OR STATUTORY
CHANGES THAT NEED TO HAPPEN
THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE TO
INCREASE ACCESS TO CHARGING IN
CERTAIN COMMUNITIES. WE APPLAUD
THE STATE IN THEIR FOCUS ON
PRIORITY POPULATIONS. WE DO KNOW
THAT CERTAIN COMMUNITIES MAY
HAVE DIFFERENT CHALLENGES. URBAN
AREAS MAY HAVE, UH, HAVE
DIFFERENT ISSUES THAN RURAL IN
URBAN AREAS. THEY THERE MAY
ALREADY BE A LOT OF DEMAND ON
THE GRID, NOT JUST FOR
TRANSPORTATION, ELECTRIFICATION,
BUT ALSO BUILDING
ELECTRIFICATION. IN RURAL AREAS.
THERE MAY BE LESS INFRASTRUCTURE
. TRIBAL AREAS ALSO MAY HAVE
OTHER, UM, STRUCTURAL CONCERNS
WITH INFRASTRUCTURE GENERALLY,
SO IF THE REQUIREMENT IS TO HAVE
NETWORK TO CHARGING ON ANY STATE
FUNDED PROGRAM. THEN AREAS THAT
MAY HAVE TELECOMMUNICATIONS
CHALLENGES MAY HAVE DIFFICULTY
INSTALLING NETWORKS CHARGING BUT
, UM, OTHER THAN THAT, I THINK
THAT MEDIUM AND HEAVY DUTY
INFRASTRUCTURE AND CHARGING
INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S ACCESSIBLE
TO THOSE TYPES OF VEHICLES. THEY
MAY HAVE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS ON
THE VEHICLE THAT'S CHARGING AND
A PARKING LOT APPROACH MAY NOT
WORK FOR ALL TYPES OF VEHICLES
IN THAT WAY, BUT WE ARE SEEING A
INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF INNOVATION,
NOT JUST IN THE TECHNOLOGY SIDE,
BUT ALSO IN THE BUSINESS MODELS.
CHARGING AS A SERVICE IS A NEW
TYPE OF BUSINESS MODEL THAT IS
SEEKING TO ADDRESS THE
CHALLENGES FOR MEDIUM AND HEAVY
DUTY VEHICLES, AND THERE'S A
QUITE A BIT OF FOCUS ALSO ON
ANDRE AGE AND INDEPENDENT OWNER
OPERATORS AND SERVING SMALL
FLEETS IN THAT BUSINESS BOTTLE
WILL SEE. UM HOW THOSE BUSINESS
BOTTLES EVOLVED TO SEE IF IT
MEETS THOSE CHALLENGES FOR THOSE
THAT MAY NOT BE ABLE TO INSTALL
THEIR OWN CHARGING
INFRASTRUCTURE AND MAY NOT
NECESSARILY BE ABLE TO RELY ON
PURELY PUBLIC ACCESS. SHARED
CHARGING WILL ALSO BE IMPORTANT
AND BEING ABLE TO PERHAPS IN
ADVANCE RESERVE CHARGING FOR
THOSE THAT ARE USING THESE
VEHICLES FOR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES
. THANKS IS THERE AN EFFORT TO,
UM STRUCTURE, EVEN RESTRUCTURE
EBY INVESTMENTS AROUND LOOKING
AT THINGS LIKE POPULATION
DENSITY FOR CERTAIN AREAS? I
WOULD HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU ON
THAT. SPECIFICALLY I DO KNOW
THAT WITHIN COMMUNITIES IN
CHARGE, WE ARE LOOKING AT
GEOGRAPHIC SPREAD AND IN OUR
NEXT FUNDING LANE, LOOKING AT,
UM ALLOCATING THE FUNDING BASED
ON DIFFERENT GEOGRAPHY IS OF THE
STATE SIMILAR TO HOW THE GOLDEN
STATE PRIORITY PROJECT AND KELLY
VIP HAVE THEIR DIFFERENT. UM
ZONES FOR CALIFORNIA TO MAKE
SURE THAT, UH, THE FUNDING THAT
IS, UM THERE'S AN INCREDIBLE
AMOUNT OF DEMAND AND STREAMLINED
ASK ACCESS FOR PERMITTING
ANOTHER ASPECTS IN LOS ANGELES.
BUT IF SOMEONE IS TRAVELING
THROUGH THE CENTRAL VALLEY OR
OTHER PARTS OF THE STATE, JUST
BECAUSE YOU LIVE IN LOS ANGELES
DOESN'T MEAN THAT'S THE ONLY
PLACE YOU TRAVEL SO MAKING SURE
THAT CHARGING ACCESSES
THROUGHOUT THE STATE. YEAH I
THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT,
BUT WE'RE ALSO ALL HEARING THE
STORIES ABOUT SHOWING UP AT THE
CHARGING STATION. YOU'RE IN A
RUSH, AND YOU HAVE TO WAIT RIGHT
SO JUST KIND OF SOME SENSE. IT'S
OF YEAH. DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO
LOOK AT DENSITY IN CERTAIN
AREAS. UM AS WELL. THERE STILL
SEEMS TO BE A MAJOR COST BARRIER
FOR LOW LOWER INCOME
CALIFORNIANS AND WORKING
FAMILIES TO PURCHASE ELECTRIC
VEHICLES IN THE FIRST INSTANCE.
IT IS A STATE DOING ANYTHING TO
HELP WITH THIS COST BURDEN. UM,
I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE LIGHT DUTY
VEHICLE VOUCHERS BECAUSE CAL
START DOESN'T ADMINISTER THOSE
PROGRAMS. BUT FOR HAVING THE
COMMENT AS WELL FOR MEDIUM AND
HEAVY DUTY VEHICLES WE DO
ADMINISTER THE H VIP PROGRAM,
WHICH ARE VEHICLE VOUCHERS THAT
ARE AT THE POINT OF SALE THAT
HELP OFFSET THE COST OF
TRANSITIONING TO MEDIUM AND
HEAVY DUTY. E. V S AND HYDROGEN
VEHICLES. THE CALIFORNIA OFF
ROAD EQUIPMENT PROGRAM ALSO
INCLUDES VOUCHERS THAT ARE AT
POINT OF SALE TO HELP DEFRAY THE
COST OF TRANSITIONING. THERE IS
ALSO SOME ADDITIONAL PLUS UPS IF
YOU'RE IN A DISADVANTAGED OR LOW
INCOME COMMUNITY, WE ALSO HAVE A
PROGRAM CALLED CAL FLEET ADVISOR
, WHICH JUST LAUNCHED THIS YEAR,
WHICH IS PRIMARILY FOCUSED ON
TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE FOR FLEETS
THAT ARE TRANSITIONING AND A
PARTICULAR ATTENTION TO SMALL
FLEETS. YEAH I KNOW. THERE'S A
PROGRAM CALLED CLEAN CARS FOR
ALL AS WELL, WHICH SEEMS TO BE
GETTING SOME TRACTION. UM MARK,
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANTED TO
COMMENT. ON KIND OF THE ISSUE.
UM. AFFORDABILITY ADOPTION AMONG
CERTAIN COMMUNITIES WITH REGARD
TO THE EBS. SURE THANK YOU. YOU
MENTIONED CLEAN CARS FOR ALL AND
THAT WOULD BE MY FIRST RESPONSE
ON THAT AS WELL. SO THE AIR
RESOURCES BOARD IS PHASING OUT.
IT'S A GENERAL STATEWIDE REBATES
FOR, UH FOR ELECTRIC VEHICLES
AND FOCUSING ITS ATTENTION ON
SCREEN CARS FOR ALL, WHICH IS AN
EQUITY FOCUS PROGRAM. SO THAT IS
IT DOES INCLUDE JUST AS ALSO WAS
SAYING FOR THE MEDIUM AND HEAVY
DUTY VEHICLES THAT DOES INCLUDE
DIFFERENT REBATE AMOUNTS FOR
DIFFERENT POPULATION AND SOME
TYPES OF VEHICLES. BUT THAT
PROGRAM THAT IS BEING EXPANDED
FROM A FEW AIR DISTRICTS TO
STATEWIDE. GREAT AND THEN FINAL
QUESTION FOR NOW, A LITTLE BIT
BROADER AGAIN, BUT JUST THROW IT
OUT THERE. ARE THERE ANY
IMMEDIATE OR PRIORITY ACTIONS
THAT THE LEGISLATURE SHOULD TAKE
NEXT SESSION TO CLOSE THE
CHARGING GAP IN THE STATE? SO WE
ARE STUDYING THE ENERGY IZATION
AND CONSTRUCTION TIMELINES AND
HAVING A SERIES OF ROUND TABLES.
WE JUST HAD OUR SECOND ONE LAST
MONTH. BUT WE HOPE THAT THE NEXT
SESSIONS WILL BE SOLUTIONS
FOCUSED AND INFORM SOME POLICY
CHOICES THAT MAY BE ABLE TO BE
MADE. WE DO APPLAUD THE EFFORTS
ALREADY WITH A B 2061 AND
INCREASING RELIABILITY AND
UPTIME FOR CHARGING STATIONS
THAT ARE PUBLICLY FUNDED AND
FUNDED BY RATEPAYERS. WE THINK
THAT MAINTENANCE AND SERVICE OF
THESE INFRASTRUCTURE IS ALSO
INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT, NOT JUST
THE SUPPLY CHAIN FOR INSTALLING
BUT THE SUPPLY CHAIN FOR PARTS
TO CONTINUALLY MAINTAIN THESE
ARE ARE INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT. WE
ALSO THINK THAT, UM, SO THE
RECENT VILLAGE BELIEVE WAS
PASSED FOR 10. THAT WOULD
PROVIDE THAT, UM UM FUNDING FOR
UTILITIES OR OR DIRECTION AROUND
UTILITIES TO BE ABLE TO UM. HAVE
INCREASED FLEXIBILITY IN, UM
BUILDING OUT THE GRID, UH, WITH
REASONABLE EXPECTATIONS OF
DEMAND, BUT, UM, IF IT'S BASED
ON INDIVIDUAL REQUESTS FOR
SERVICE RATHER THAN A REGIONAL
APPROACH UM. THINK RATHER THAN
DOING IT SORT OF PIECEMEAL AS IT
COMES BEING ABLE TO TAKE INTO
ACCOUNT FLEET PLANS AND OTHER
ITEMS THAT HAVE A HIGH DEGREE
OF, UM. HIGH DEGREE THAT THESE
WILL GO IN THE GROUND THAT THERE
WILL BE THIS DEMAND AND BEING
ABLE TO BUILD OUT AHEAD OF TIME,
I THINK IS, UM, GREAT TO SEE
THAT THAT LEGISLATION HAS
PASSED. AGREED. MARK ANYTHING TO
ADD ON THAT. NO, THANK YOU FOR
THE OPPORTUNITY. NOTHING TO ADD.
OKAY THANK YOU. UM I ALSO HAVE A
COUPLE QUESTIONS. UM FIRST MARK
IN THE NEXT PANEL WILL HAVE AN
OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR ABOUT SOME
CREATIVE AND INNOVATIVE
APPROACHES TO EXPANDING CHARGING
ACCESS. AND WHILE I DON'T WANT
TO GET AHEAD OF OURSELVES, UM
HOW IS THE CC APPROACHING FUTURE
PROOFING FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES
FOR THE FIELDS OF CHANGING
THAT'S CHANGING RAPIDLY AND
EVOLVES QUICKLY. AND IS THERE
ANYTHING THE LEGISLATURE CAN DO
TO HELP AND I KNOW, UM WE'LL BE
HEARING FROM THE STATE OF
MICHIGAN, WHERE THEY'RE DOING
ELECTRIFICATION OF ROADS AND
WIRELESS CHARGING, AND I HEARD
YOU MENTION THAT, UM I AM A HUGE
FAN AS SOMEONE WHO GOES FROM
AIRPORT TO EVENTS ALL DAY BACK
TO AN AIRPORT AND HAS NO TIME IN
BETWEEN THE CHARGE. SO IF I
COULD CHARGE AND DRIVE, IT WOULD
MAKE MY LIFE SO MUCH BETTER. AND
I THINK IT'S ALSO REALLY
IMPORTANT TECHNOLOGY TO THINK
ABOUT ADDRESSING EQUITY TO OF
PEOPLE CAN CHARGE AND DRIVE.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT
BEING ABLE TO CHARGE AT HOME AND
PLUG IN AT NIGHT, AND YOU KNOW,
MULTI FAMILY HOUSING OR
APARTMENTS WHERE THEY HAVE MAY
HAVE, LIKE LESS ACCESS. UM OR,
YOU KNOW, ELECTRIFYING PARKING
LOTS AND MAKING IT MORE WIDELY
ACCESSIBLE TO CHARGE WIRELESSLY.
UM, WHEN PEOPLE ARE PARKED AT
DIFFERENT LOCATIONS, SO I WOULD
LOVE TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS ON,
YOU KNOW OTHER EMERGING PIECES
OF TECHNOLOGY THAT CAN REALLY
ADDRESS EQUITY IN A BIG WAY.
YEAH THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SO
WE'RE REALLY ACTIVELY THINKING
ABOUT THAT TECHNOLOGICAL
EVOLUTION TRYING TO BOTH DEPLOY
FOR TODAY AND FOR THE FUTURE. SO
ONE ASPECT OF TECHNOLOGIES IS
LOOKING AT CONNECTOR TYPES FOR
FAST CHARGING. SO FOR EXAMPLE,
IN THE ZIP LAST YEAR, WE SAID
WE'D BE PHASING OUT OUR SUPPORT
FOR CHATHAM Ó. AND NOW WE HAVE
A STATEMENT OUT JUST A COUPLE
WEEKS AGO ON PLANNING FOR A
TRANSITION PERIOD TO THE TESLA
OR THE NEXT CHARGER. I ALSO
MENTIONED THAT 150 KILOWATTS IS
THE MINIMUM POWER RATING FOR
FAST CHARGERS THAT WE NOW FUND.
SO THAT'S FUTURE PROOFING AS NOT
ALL THE CARS TODAY CAN TAKE
ADVANTAGE OF THAT HIGHER POWER,
BUT MORE WILL BE ABLE TO IN THE
FUTURE. UM SO CHARGING RATES AND
CONNECTORS. I THINK THE THIRD
EYE 0.2 FOR LIGHT DUTY WOULD BE
COMMUNICATIONS ARE REALLY MAKING
SURE THAT CARS AND CHARGERS ARE
INTEROPERABLE AND ABLE TO
RECEIVE SIGNALS THAT WILL HELP
TO SHIFT SOME OF THE CHARGING
TIME TO WHEN THE POWER IS LEAST
EXPENSIVE AND WHEN RENEWABLES
ARE MOST AVAILABLE ON A MICRO
SCALE THAT TECHNOLOGY AUTOMATED
LOAD MANAGEMENT CAN BE REALLY
HELPFUL IN TRYING IN TRYING TO
GET THE MOST CHARGERS INTO THE
SMALLEST PANEL SPACE. SO IN MANY
CASES, PANEL CAPACITY OR
SOMETIMES DISTRIBUTION CAPACITY
IS THE CONSTRAINT. IF CARS ARE
GOING TO BE IN A SPACE FOR A
LONG TIME, SAY OVERNIGHT
CHARGING AND MULTI FAMILY
HOUSING UNIT DWELLING OR UM,
WORKPLACE CHARGING YOU CAN GET
MORE CARS, MORE POWER IF THERE'S
MANAGEMENT THAT EVEN AS THE LOAD
OUT BETWEEN THE CARS OVER THAT
PERIOD OF TIME, AND THAT'S
SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE
TO FUND IN SOME OF OUR MULTI
FAMILY HOUSING GRANT FUNDING
OPPORTUNITIES. ON WIRELESS.
WE'VE FUNDED OPPORTUNITIES WITH
ANTELOPE VALLEY TRANSIT ON
WIRELESS CHARGING FOR TRANSIT.
THAT SEEMS TO BE THE APPLICATION
WHERE THAT TECHNOLOGY IS MOVING
FORWARD MOST RAPIDLY, BUT WE'RE
ALSO LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING
FROM THE TESTIMONY FROM THE
STATE OF MICHIGAN AND
UNDERSTANDABLE OTHER
OPPORTUNITIES THERE MIGHT BE
THANK YOU. WONDERFUL YEAH, WE
ACTUALLY WERE ABLE TO TAKE A
TOUR YESTERDAY OF ANTELOPE
VALLEY TRANSIT AUTHORITY AND
IT'S PRETTY INCREDIBLE WHAT
THEY'RE DOING, YOU KNOW, BEING
ABLE TO, UM, RUN THEIR BUSSES
FOR 12 TO 14 HOURS A DAY WITHOUT
HAVING ANY DOWNTIME HAVING TO,
YOU KNOW, TAKE BUSSES OFFLINE TO
CHARGE BECAUSE THEY'VE
STRATEGICALLY PLACED WIRELESS
CHARGING PADS THROUGHOUT THE
ROUTE SO THAT THEY CAN PICK UP
YOU KNOW, A 10 MINUTE CHARGE
THROUGHOUT THE DAY AT THE
DIFFERENT STOPS THAT THEY MAKE
UM AND ALYSSA. I DON'T KNOW IF
YOU HAVE ANY, UM, ANYTHING TO
ADD ON THIS TOPIC, TOO. I WENT
TO HIGH SCHOOL IN THE ISLAND
VALLEY. SO IT'S INCREDIBLE TO
SEE THAT TYPE OF TECHNOLOGY IN
THE VALLEY THERE AND, UM I KNOW
THAT IT'S REALLY KNOWN FOR
AEROSPACE, BUT IT'S GREAT TO SEE
THAT IT'S ALSO KNOWN FOR HAVING
A CLEAN TRANSIT AUTHORITY. UM
WITHIN ENERGIZE. WE DO ALLOW
INDUCTIVE CHARGING TO BE FUNDED
THROUGH THESE PROGRAMS WE'VE
SEEN UM, THAT THERE COULD BE
INTEREST WITH TRANSIT
AUTHORITIES AND PER ALSO PERHAPS
ALSO PORTS WHERE THERE MAY BE,
UH, NOT AS MUCH SPACE. FOR
CHARGING EQUIPMENT OR WHERE
THERE MAY BE A CONCERN OF
RUNNING OVER CHARGERS. UM THIS
DOES REQUIRE THAT THERE'S
TECHNOLOGY NOT JUST IN THE, UM
IN THE GROUND FOR THIS CHARGING,
BUT ALSO ON THE VEHICLE. UM SO
WITHIN ENERGIZE, WE DO FUND SORT
OF UP TO THE PLUG, WHICH FOR
INDUCTIVE CHARGING WOULD BE THE
POWDER THE INFRASTRUCTURE THERE
AS WELL AS CATENARY CHARGING THE
OVERHEAD CHARGING THAT TRANSIT
MAY USE. UM I WOULD HAVE TO
CHECK IF WE WERE RECEIVED ANY
REQUESTS THERE. I DO KNOW THAT
THE STANDARDS FOR INDUCTIVE
CHARGING ARE STILL BEING
DEVELOPED. SO AS THIS TECHNOLOGY
MOVES FROM THE PILOT PHASE AND
INTO MORE MARKET APPLICATIONS
WERE REALLY EXCITED TO SEE THIS
LEVEL OF INNOVATION AND
TECHNOLOGY. UM WE ALSO HAVE
VEHICLE DEGRADE CHARGING IS ALSO
ELIGIBLE AND ENERGIZE. WE'VE
SEEN INTEREST FROM SCHOOL
DISTRICTS. WE'RE EXCITED TO SEE
THOSE PILOTS THROUGHOUT
CALIFORNIA. AND, UM DO KNOW THAT
THE RAPE CASE IS STILL BEING
DETERMINED ON WHAT THAT MIGHT
BE, BUT, UM, WE CALL IT VTG
READY AS A STANDARD STILL BEING
DEVELOPED. WE ALSO SEE
INTERESTED IN HYDROGEN. TRANSIT
AGENCIES, ALSO OF INTEREST IN
HYDROGEN, WHERE THERE MAY BE, UM
, DUTY CYCLES THAT DON'T
ACCOMMODATE A BATTERY ELECTRIC
VEHICLE AS WELL, UM, FOR LONGER
RANGE. UM UH, ROOTS AND ITEMS
LIKE THAT. UM THE OTHER, UM, IN
TERMS OF BUSINESS MODEL,
CHARGING AS A SERVICE IS A NEW
TYPE OF TEST. UM BUSINESS FOLLOW
THAT WE'RE SEEING. WE'RE EXCITED
TO SEE HOW THAT DEVELOPS AS WELL
AS TRACKING IS A SERVICE WHERE,
UM, YOU CAN ALSO HAVE A SERVICE
CONTRACT FOR A TRUCK. TYPICALLY
HEAVY DUTY TRUCKS. WITHIN OUR
PROGRAM E TRUCK, WHICH WE ALSO
ARE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE
CALIFORNIA ENERGY COMMISSION ON
LOOKING AT MEGA WATT CHARGING.
IF THERE'S MORE INTEREST, I CAN
GET FURTHER INFORMATION ON THAT
AND KNOW THAT THE STANDARD IS
STILL BEING DEVELOPED THERE. UM
I DEFINITELY AGREE ON LOAD
MANAGEMENT AND THE ITEMS THAT,
UM MY CO PANELIST MARCUS BROUGHT
UP ALSO NOTE THAT IN THE OFF
ROAD PROGRAM THERE IS FUNDING
FOR MOBILE CHARGING CALL MOBILE
POWER UNITS, AND THESE CAN
PROVIDE, UM AH, THERE'S
DIFFERENT CONFIGURATIONS. BUT IN
THE LAST FUNDING CYCLES, WE'VE
SEEN INCREDIBLE DEMAND FOR
MOBILE CHARGING, TYPICALLY FOR
OFF ROAD EQUIPMENT. YOU MAY BE
USING THIS EQUIPMENT IN AREAS
WHERE THERE IS NO GRID ACCESS.
BUT THERE MAY ALSO BE INTERESTED
IN AREAS WHERE THEY MIGHT NOT
YET HAVE GRID CAPACITY OR
WHETHER IT CAN BE MOVABLE WITH
ANY YARD WHERE THERE MIGHT NOT
BE AS MUCH SPACE UM, WE'VE SEEN
SOME INTERESTING DEVELOPMENTS ON
REGENERATIVE FOR, UM AH! T R U S
FOR TRANSPORT REFRIGERATION
UNITS. AND THEN WITH THE CLEAN
MOBILITY OPTIONS PROGRAM. WE
ALSO SEE THE INNOVATIVE MOBILITY
CAN BE A GREAT ACCOMPANY MINUTE
ACCOMPANIMENT TO ELECTRIFICATION
OF TRANSPORTATION, SO IT MAY NOT
NECESSARILY BE RELIANT ON CAR
OWNERSHIP. BUT ACCESSIBILITY AND
SAFE USE OF BIKES AND MICRO
MOBILITY. THROUGHOUT YOU KNOW
THAT THERE'S BEEN, UM SOME LIKE
CAR SHARE, OR ELECTRIC SHUTTLES
THAT ARE MORE DYNAMIC. UM AND
THAT REDUCING VEHICLE MILES
TRAVELED IS A IMPORTANT PART OF
THE EQUATION AS WELL AND
REDUCING EMISSIONS. THANK YOU.
AND I THINK MR CONNELLY HAS A
FOLLOW UP TO YEAH, REALLY HAPPY
THAT YOU BROUGHT UP VEHICLE TO
GRID. UM, I THINK THAT'S HAS A
LOT OF PROMISE. SO WONDERING IF
YOU COULD JUST ELABORATE FOR
FOLKS TUNING IN ON KIND OF WHAT
THAT IS SO CALLED BIDIRECTIONAL.
CHARGING AND WHAT SOME OF THE
OPPORTUNITIES ARE FOR THAT, SO
THERE'S A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT
ACRONYMS HERE BUT TO MAKE IT
EASY, BIDIRECTIONAL CHARGING IS
WHEN SIMILAR TO LIKE WHEN YOU
HAVE SOLAR ON YOUR HOUSE, AND
YOU COULD SEND ENERGY BACK TO
THE GRID. SO WITH BIDIRECTIONAL
CHARGING YOU COULD SEND ENERGY
THROUGH THE CHARGING
INFRASTRUCTURE AS THEY'RE BACK
TO THE GRID BACK TO A BATTERY
STORAGE OR TO ANOTHER VEHICLE.
SO, UM I THINK THIS OFF OFFERS A
GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR SCHOOL
DISTRICTS WHERE THE SCHOOL
BUSSES COULD BE USED FOR
EMERGENCIES. UM, WHERE THEY'RE
THE GRID. MAYBE OUT, THEY COULD
USE THE POWER TO, UM. TO SERVE
THE BUILDINGS OR THE EMERGENCY
USE CASES THERE. UM AS FLEETS.
CONSIDER THERE'S OTHER ASPECTS
OF JUST THE TECHNOLOGY BEING
AVAILABLE INSURANCE AND HOW THEY
WILL TREAT THE BATTERY CYCLES
AND IN THIS CASE IS STILL
SOMETHING THAT'S EVOLVING. BUT
INCREDIBLY INTERESTED IN WHERE
THIS IS GOING AND HOW THE HOW
THE STANDARDS EVOLVE AS WELL.
YEAH, EVEN ON A HOUSEHOLD LEVEL
AS WE CONFRONT EMERGENCIES AND.
IN EFFECT HAVE KIND OF A MICRO
GRID OPPORTUNITY. ONE FOLLOW UP
ON THAT IS THE STATE OR OR ARE
THE UTILITIES CONSIDERING
CREATING INCENTIVES TO ENCOURAGE
CALIFORNIANS TO CONTRIBUTE TO
THE GRID THROUGH BIDIRECTIONAL
CHARGING OR SCHOOL DISTRICTS,
FOR THAT MATTER? I BELIEVE THAT
THE UTILITIES AND PUBLIC UTILITY
COMMISSIONER GOING TO BE
CONSIDERING THOSE I CAN'T SPEAK
AS MUCH SPECIFICALLY WITH THE
ENERGY COMMISSION'S OTHER
ACTIVITIES, BUT WITHIN, UM,
ENERGIZED AS WELL AS IN
PARTICULAR THE SET ASIDE FOR
SCHOOL DISTRICTS, THERE IS A LOT
OF INTEREST IN VEHICLE TO GRID.
AND IT IS AN ELIGIBLE TECHNOLOGY
FOR INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S READY
FOR BIDIRECTIONAL. AND THIS IS
MARK IF I MIGHT JUMP IN ON THAT
I JUST WANTED TO THANK BOTH THE
ASSEMBLY MEMBER AND ELISSA FOR
THEIR REFERENCE TO SCHOOL BUS
AND BIDIRECTIONAL EEC, JUST AT
THE END OF SEPTEMBER ANNOUNCED
FOR PROPOSED GRANTS FOR SCHOOL
DISTRICTS TO DO BIDIRECTIONAL
CHARGING WITH THEIR SCHOOL BUS
FLEETS, SO THAT'S CERTAINLY A
TECHNOLOGY WE'RE LOOKING AT, AS
WELL AND TRYING TO ADVANCE.
WONDERFUL THANK YOU. AND, UM SO
I'M REALLY ENCOURAGED TO HEAR
PRIORITIZING INVESTING IN, UM IN
LOWER INCOME AND DISADVANTAGED
COMMUNITIES AND WONDER WHAT A
COUPLE OF THINGS ABOUT THAT. HOW
DOES THAT WORK? LIKE IS THERE
OVERALL COORDINATION BECAUSE I
KNOW THERE'S A YOU KNOW, A WHOLE
INDUSTRY OF PRIVATE COMPANIES
WHO ARE INSTALLING CHARGERS
INVESTING IN IN CHARGING
INFRASTRUCTURE. UM AND SO IS
THERE. COORDINATION ON ANY LEVEL
AROUND THE WORK THAT YOU ALL ARE
DOING TO INVEST IN CHARGING
INFRASTRUCTURE WITH THE INDUSTRY
TO KIND OF ENSURE PEOPLE AREN'T
TRIPPING OVER EACH OTHER. UM I
DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THAT'S A
CONCERN OR PROBLEM. I MEAN,
OBVIOUSLY THESE INVESTMENTS ARE
HAPPENING BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A
LOT OF INVESTMENT HAPPENING IN
THESE AREAS. BUT UM AT A CERTAIN
POINT, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT MIGHT
BE, UM, SOMETHING THAT COULD
COME UP AND THEN THE OTHER
QUESTION IS HOW YOU KNOW YOU
INVEST IN INFRASTRUCTURE AND
COMMUNITIES. ONE OF THE THINGS
IS A, UH, EVERY DRIVER MYSELF
THAT I SEE A LOT, AND I KNOW
THAT WE AS A STATE HAVE DONE A
LOT TO ADDRESS IS AROUND UPTIME
AND RELIABILITY AND CHARGERS. UM
AND YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, IN
THE IN THE NORTH VALLEY HERE
THERE'S ABOUT FIVE FAST CHARGERS
IN THE WHOLE NORTH VALLEY. UM
TWO OF THEM ARE ALWAYS ALWAYS
BROKEN, AND, UM, AND THE OTHER
ONES ARE ALWAYS TAKEN UP. SO YOU
GOT TO WAIT IN LINE IF YOU NEED
A FAST CHARGER. UM LUCKILY, SEE
SON HAS INSTALLED A COUPLE MORE.
I THINK THAT INCREASED IT A
LITTLE BIT IF YOU CAN FIND THEM
AND SEE SONS CAMPUS, AND, UM AND
SO YOU KNOW HOW? HOW DOES THE
HOW DOES THE FOLLOW UP
MAINTENANCE PIECE HAPPEN? UM FOR
THESE, YOU KNOW, TARGETED
COMMUNITIES TO MAKE SURE THAT
THOSE CHARGERS ARE ACTUALLY
WORKING AND AVAILABLE GOING
FORWARD. FOR CHARGER MAINTENANCE
. I CAN NOTE THAT WITHIN OUR
PROGRAMS ENERGIZED AND
COMMUNITIES IN CHARGE, UM, WE DO
ENSURE TERMS AND CONDITIONS TO
MAKE SURE THAT THE CHARGING
INFRASTRUCTURE IS MAINTAINED,
AND, UH RELIABLE. WE'RE WORKING
WITH THE ENERGY COMMISSION ON
THE DATA THAT WOULD BE COMING IN
FROM THE CHARGERS AFTERWARDS AND
IN COORDINATION WITH THE
REGULATION THAT'S DETERMINED
WITH A B 2061. UM SORRY, JUST IS
THAT FUN IS THEIR FUNDING FOR
THAT IS IT ARE IS THAT PART OF
THE FUNDING TO HELP MAINTAIN IT
OR OR IT'S ON THE TURN IT OVER
TO OPERATORS TO THE SPECIFIC UM
I'LL HAVE TO LOOK SPECIFICALLY
FOR COMMUNITIES IN CHARGE. BUT
FOR ENERGIZED THERE IS SOME, UM
ELIGIBLE COSTS ONE TIME CONSTANT
NECESSARILY EVERY MONTH OVER
TIME, BUT ONE TIME COSTS FOR
WARRANTY OR FOR MAINTENANCE
CONTRACTS, SO IT'S ENCOURAGED
WITHIN THE PROGRAM. IT'S ALSO
WITHIN THE TERMS OF CONDITIONS
TO HAVE THE CHARGING
INFRASTRUCTURE. MAINTAINED AND
UP FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME.
UM I THINK THAT MAINTENANCE IS
INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT. IT'S NOT
JUST I MEAN, THERE'S SOME
ASPECTS OF HAVING THE WORKFORCE
THAT IS TRAINED AND ABLE TO
MAINTAIN THIS INFRASTRUCTURE. I
THINK THAT ONE OF OUR MEMBER
COMPANIES CHARGE YOUR HEALTH,
DOING A GREAT AMOUNT OF WORK
HERE AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT
AND ALSO BEING ABLE TO WORK WITH
THE UM, THE E V CHARGER
MANUFACTURERS TO TRIAGE ITEMS
WHERE THERE MAY BE, UM WELL,
JUST TO BE ABLE TO GIVE THAT
FEEDBACK ON HOW THE MAINTENANCE
IS DOING. AND WHAT ARE THE
TYPICAL DOWNTIME REASONS? UM BUT
I THINK THAT THE SUPPLY CHAIN
FOR MAINTENANCE AS WELL FOR
PARTS AND PIECES TO BE ABLE TO
HAVE THAT IN A TIMELY MANNER, SO
THAT, UH, NOT JUST HOLDING
NECESSARILY THOSE WHO OWN THE
INFRASTRUCTURE ACCOUNTABLE IF
THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO GET PIECES
TO, UM. PIECES OF EQUIPMENT TO
MAINTAIN THE INFRASTRUCTURE THEY
HAVE. THAT MIGHT ALSO BE A
HINDRANCE SO I THINK THAT IT'S
IMPORTANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE
WORKFORCE THERE THAT CAN
MAINTAIN THESE AS WELL AS THE
PARTS AND SERVICE CONTRACTS.
THEY'RE JUST ON WORKFORCE. IS
THERE ANY, UM WORK TO ACTUALLY
RECRUIT FROM THE COMMUNITIES
YOU'RE TARGETING TO TRAIN OR IS
THERE ANY KIND OF INFRASTRUCTURE
FOR THAT TO TRAIN AND PLACE
PEOPLE IN THIS KIND OF WORK
THAT'S GOING TO BE NEEDED SO
TELSTAR IS, UM, WHO'S GONNA BE
LOOKING AT MORE WORKFORCE
DEVELOPMENT ASPECTS IN THIS
AREA, AND, UH, THERE'S A LOT OF
OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE
DONE QUITE A BIT HERE AS WELL.
UM, I THINK THAT. WITHIN
ENERGIZES AN EXAMPLE FOR THOSE
REQUESTING MORE THAN A CERTAIN
AMOUNT OF MONEY. THEY HAVE TO
ANSWER QUALITATIVE QUESTIONS AND
A COUPLE OF THESE QUESTIONS ARE
TO COMMUNITY BENEFIT AND
ALIGNMENT WITH COMMUNITY NEEDS
AND PRIORITIES AND WITHIN SOME
OF THOSE EXAMPLES, WORKFORCE
DEVELOPMENT OR LOCAL HIRING
PREFERENCES COULD BE PART OF
THAT ASPECT, AND I THINK THAT
THAT'S A IMPORTANT
CONTRIBUTIONS. SOME OF THESE
PROGRAMS CAN CAN MAKE IN
BENEFITING COMMUNITY. ABSOLUTELY
MARC, DID YOU WANT TO ADD
ANYTHING HERE? WELL THANKS VERY
MUCH. APPRECIATE THE CHANCE. I
YES. AND SO I THINK A LIST OF
COVERED SOME GOOD COMMENTS ON
RELIABILITY. I'D LIKE TO SPEAK
SPECIFICALLY WHAT THE SCENE IS
DOING ABOUT THAT. SO SINCE 2021
HOUR GRANTS HAVE REQUIRED
RELIABLE OPERATIONS 97% UPTIME
FOR FIVE OR SIX YEARS AFTER THE,
UM THE BEGINNING OF OPERATION
FOR THE CHARGER. UH UNDER A B
2061 AND MAYBE 1 26. WE ARE
WRITING REGULATIONS THAT WILL
APPLY TO ANY CHARTERS FUNDED
EITHER THROUGH PUBLIC FUNDS OR
THROUGH RATEPAYER FUNDS. SO
THOSE, UM, CHARTER'S APPROVED BY
THE PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION.
WE HAVE A DRAFT OF THOSE
REGULATIONS AND A STAFF REPORT
THAT CAME OUT AND COMMENT PERIOD
CLOSES TOMORROW. SO IF ANYBODY
IS LISTENING AND WOULD LIKE TO
WEIGH IN, WE'D LOVE TO GET THOSE
COMMENTS AS WELL. UH UNDER 81 26
, WHICH PASSED WAS ENACTED JUST
LAST MONTH. THERE'S A AND A
SLIGHTLY STRONGER REQUIREMENT TO
ENSURE THAT THOSE PERFORMANCE
STANDARDS THAT 97% APPLIES TO
ALL STATE AND REPAIR FUNDED
CHARGERS, SO WE'LL BE
INCORPORATING THAT AS WELL. AND
THEN TO THE ISSUE OPERATIONS AND
MAINTENANCE. SPECIFICALLY AS
ELISSA SAID, IN OUR COMPETITIVE
GRANT FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES WE
ALSO HAVE A LIST OF ELIGIBLE
COSTS AND WARRANTIES ARE
ELIGIBLE AS OUR OPERATIONS AND
MAINTENANCE EXPENSES, SO IT'S
SOMETHING THAT WE CAN COVER. UH
AS PART OF THE FUNDING THAT WE
PROVIDE SO AN ISSUE THAT WE HAVE
BEEN WORKING ON FOR A LITTLE
BIT, OBVIOUSLY MUCH MORE TO DO
ON IT BECAUSE THE RELIABILITY
AND CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE HAS NOT
BEEN UNIVERSALLY GREAT. UH SO WE
ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO TAKE
SUGGESTIONS AND DIRECTION ON
THAT, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT
WE'RE PUTTING A LOT OF FOCUS ON
TWO WONDERFUL. THANK YOU, UM.
AND SO YOU KNOW, ONE OF MY FEARS
WITH A FEW YEARS OF SIGNIFICANT
INFLUX OF FUNDING THAT'S
AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW IS THAT AT
THE END OF THOSE YEARS IF
ADDITIONAL FUNDING STALLS WE MAY
NOT HAVE ENSURED THAT THE MOST
UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES ARE ABLE
TO BENEFIT FROM E V S IN THE IN
THE PRIOR HEARING THE JOINT
HEARING THAT WE HAD PROFESSOR
CALLAWAY SHOWED FINDINGS THAT
BLACK AND LATINO RESIDENTS TEND
TO HAVE LESS CAPACITY FOR NEW
LOAD. THAN THE AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD
AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT KIND
OF SHOVEL, READY, READY PROJECTS
AND ADDITIONALLY, THE C E. C AND
OTHERS HAVE FOUND, UM THAT THEY
HAVE. LESS ACCESS TO PUBLIC
CHARGES, IRRESPECTIVE OF INCOME,
SO IN TERMS OF THE C E C,
EVOLVING AND IMPROVING PROGRAMS
BASED ON THE FINDINGS AND A B 21
47. HOW IS THAT WORKING WITH THE
HOME CHARGING ACCESS REPORTS AND
HOW HOW IS THAT EVOLVING? YEAH
THANK YOU. THIS IS SOMETHING
THAT WE ARE PAYING A LOT OF
ATTENTION TO. WE DO SEE A LONGER
TERM ROLE FOR PUBLIC FUNDING TO
ADDRESS EQUITY NEEDS WHERE THE
PRIVATE SECTOR LEAVES GAPS.
THOSE GAPS MAY CHANGE OVER TIME,
AND WILL WE WANT TO BE PROACTIVE
AND UNDERSTANDING AND ADDRESSING
THEM? UM THERE ARE TWO SPECIFIC
EFFORTS ALL POINT TO, UM SO ONE
OF THE FIGURES IN THE STAFF
REPORT FOR THIS HEARING WAS
DRAWN FROM RSP 1000 REPORT
SHOWING THAT WITHIN THE LOS
ANGELES AREA, THERE ARE
DIFFERENCES IN CHARGING ACCESS.
SO IF YOU FILTER FOR THE
DISADVANTAGED AND LOW INCOME
COMMUNITIES, SOME OF THOSE ARE
WITHIN A FEW MINUTES OF FAST
CHARGING AND HAVE THAT ACCESS
WHILE OTHERS ARE STILL MORE THAN
A 10 MINUTE. DRIVE AWAY, SO THAT
VARIATION EXISTS EVEN WITHIN
THOSE THOSE COMMUNITIES THAT
WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS. TO GET
TO THAT VARIATION. WE'RE
PREPARING A FUNDING OPPORTUNITY
THAT WILL BE SPECIFICALLY FOR
CHARGING THAT REDUCES DRIVE
TIMES FOR COMMUNITIES THAT DON'T
HAVE THAT ACCESS NOW, SO ONES
THAT ARE MORE THAN 10 MINUTES
AWAY. A SECOND EFFORT I WOULD
POINT TO IS IN WORKPLACE
CHARGING, SO RIGHT NOW THERE'S A
SENSE THAT WORKPLACE CHARGING IS
PRIMARILY FOR WHITE COLLAR
WORKERS AND BIG OFFICE BUILDINGS
AND OUR DRAFT ANALYSIS. UNDER
THE 21 27 REPORT BREAKS OUT THE
DIFFERENT TYPES OF WORKPLACES AS
WE'RE THINKING ABOUT HOW TO MAKE
IT MORE WIDELY AVAILABLE TO
RETAIL WORKERS AND OTHERS THAT
HAVEN'T TRADITIONALLY BEEN
REACHED. AND THEN THE THIRD.
MAYBE THAT I WOULD POINT TO
QUICKLY WOULD BE ON SOME OF OUR
MULTI FAMILY HOUSING. SO AS I
MENTIONED THE ZIPPERS OF
INFRASTRUCTURE PLAN STATES THAT
STATE POLICY IS TO MAXIMIZE THE
HOME CHARGING IT'S OFTEN THE
MOST CONVENIENT AND LEAST
EXPENSIVE. MULTI FAMILY HOUSING
IS AN ELIGIBLE CATEGORY AND OUR
LITTLE TO BLOCK GRANTS,
INCLUDING THE ONE THAT ALYSSA
WAS DESCRIBING EARLIER. UM AND
WE ALSO HAVE COMPETITIVE
SOLICITATIONS, INCLUDING ONE
THAT WE CALL REACH. UH UM
RELIABLE AND EVERYONE AT HOME
CHARGING ALLOWED FOR A VARIETY
OF APPROACHES. SO A LOT OF FOUR
DC FAST CHARGERS NEAR MULTI
FAMILY HOUSING ON SITE OR OFF
SITE, LEVEL ONE OR LEVEL TWO AND
USE OF LOAD MANAGEMENT. SO WE'RE
SEEING WE HAVE THESE GOALS NOT
ONLY HAVE INSTALLING THE
CHARGERS BUT ALSO DEMONSTRATING
IN TECH AND TESTING BUSINESS AND
TECHNOLOGY MODELS THAT COULD BE
MORE WIDELY APPLIED REPLICABLE
AND SCALABLE MODELS. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU AND BACK TO MY BRINGS
ME BACK TO MY EARLIER QUESTION
THAT I DON'T THINK WAS TOUCHED
ON IS THERE IS THERE A
COORDINATION HAPPENING WITH THE
INDUSTRY AROUND INSTALLATION? OR
IS THERE A NEED FOR THAT? IS IT
JUST WE NEED SO MUCH THAT
EVERYBODY SHOULD DO AS MUCH AS
THEY CAN, AND IT'S YOU KNOW, WE
DON'T NEED TO WORRY ABOUT THAT
RIGHT NOW. LIKE WHERE DO YOU
THINK THAT THAT? UM HOW IS THAT
WORKING? AND THERE'S NO MASTER
PLAN OF YOU KNOW, YOU GO HERE
AND WE'LL GO HERE AND WE'LL DO
OUR THING AND WE'RE GOING TO,
YOU KNOW, DO IT TOGETHER. UM BUT
IS THERE A COORDINATION
HAPPENING? IS THERE MORE THAT'S
NEEDED OR HOW DOES THAT WORK?
THANK YOU THERE, I THINK RIGHT
NOW WE ARE NOT OPPORTUNITY
CONSTRAINED, SO THERE'S CERTAIN
EXTENT TO WHICH THERE IS PLENTY
OF ROOM FOR A WIDE VARIETY OF
ACTORS. I THINK YOU KNOW MUCH
LONGER TERM. WE WANT TO SEE SOME
COMPETITION BETWEEN TYPES OF
CHARGING SO THAT SOMEBODY IS
CHOOSING BETWEEN DC FAST
CHARGING, WHICH MIGHT BE MORE
CONVENIENT AND, UH, CLOSER BUT
POTENTIALLY SLOWER. THERE'S A
TIME PENALTY THERE VERSUS A
LEVEL TWO CHARGING AT WORK WHERE
THE COST MIGHT BE LOWER, BUT
THEY MIGHT NOT GET THE FULL
CHARGE THEY NEED FOR THEIR
WEEKEND PLANS, SO I THINK LONGER
TERM WE'RE INTERESTED IN MAKING
SURE THAT ALL OF THESE OPTIONS
ARE ARE AVAILABLE, AND PEOPLE
ARE ABLE TO CHOOSE WHAT WORKS
BEST FOR THEM. IN TERMS OF
SPECIFIC COORDINATION. YOU KNOW,
ONE THING I WOULD POINT OUT IS
THAT ALL OF OUR FUNDING? ALMOST
ALL OF OUR FUNDING REQUIRES A
MATCH BY THE PRIVATE SECTOR. SO
THE PRIVATE SECTOR IS VERY
HEAVILY INVOLVED IN BOTH
INVESTMENT AND SPECIFICALLY IN
CHOOSING THE SITES. SO THE CTC
THAT DOES NOT GENERALLY SELECT
SITES WE SELECT, UH, COMMUNITIES
OR TARGET TYPES OF CHARGING THAT
WE'D LIKE TO SEE AND THEN WE
ASKED THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO
BRING US THEIR BEST IDEAS ABOUT
WHERE THAT CHARGING CAN GO. AND
ONE EXAMPLE OF THIS, I THINK
WOULD BE THE NAVY FUNDING, WHICH
IS THE FEDERAL FUNDING FOR
CORRIDORS OF DC FAST CHARGING.
AND IN THE DRAFT SOLICITATION
THAT WE HAVE DESCRIBED, AND WE
EXPECTED SOLICITATION TO BE OUT
PRETTY SHORTLY NOW. AH WE PUT
FORWARD THE SAME REQUIREMENTS
THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAD
ABOUT CHARGERS EVERY 50 MILES
AND STATIONS OF GREATER THAN
CERTAIN SIZE. BUT WE DIDN'T SAY
THEY HAD TO GO HERE HERE AND
HERE ALONG THE FREEWAY. WE WANT
PRIVATE SECTOR TO DO THAT
ANALYSIS OF WHERE THE UH,
INFRASTRUCTURE IS AVAILABLE
WHERE THERE ARE AMENITIES THAT
WILL BE ATTRACTIVE TO DRIVERS.
WHERE THE WHAT? WHAT THE SPACING
IS THAT MAKES MOST SENSE AND
THEN BRING THAT US SO I WOULD
SAY WE ALSO SPEAK WITH THE MAJOR
CHARGING PROVIDERS FAIRLY
REGULARLY AND THEN ALL OF OUR
PROCESSES. IN TERMS OF BOTH WHAT
WE FOUND AND THEN WITHIN A
SPECIFIC SOLICITATION, HOW THAT
SOLICITATION IS DESIGNED AND
CONSTRUCTED, ASKED FOR PUBLIC
COMMENTS AND ALL OF THOSE TWO,
SO THERE'S DEFINITELY A CHANCE
FOR THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND
ANYBODY ELSE TO WEIGH IN.
WONDERFUL OKAY. THANK YOU. SO
MUCH FOR THAT. CLARIFICATION. UM
MHM. MELISSA JUST LET COUPLE
LAST QUESTIONS FOR YOU. AND I
THINK WE'LL WRAP UP AND THANK
YOU BOTH SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE
TODAY. AND FOR ALL OF THIS
IMPORTANT INFORMATION FOR US TO
CHART OUR PATH. UM SO
COMMUNITIES IN CHARGE SEEMS TO
BE EXTREMELY SUCCESSFUL IN
NEARLY ALL OF THE CURRENT CYCLE.
FUNDS SPOKEN FOR I KNOW FOR
UNDERSCORED UNDER RESOURCED
COMMUNITIES, SHOVEL READY ITSELF
CAN BE A BIG HURDLE. AND CAN YOU
SPEAK TO SOME OF THE TECHNICAL
ASSISTANCE AND WHAT THAT LOOKS
LIKE THROUGH THIS PROGRAM AND IF
THERE'S POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITIES
FOR IMPROVEMENT AND FUTURE
CYCLES? SO WITHIN COMMUNITIES IN
CHARGE, WE DO HAVE DIFFERENT
ASPECTS OF TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE
THAT ARE OFFERED. WE DO HAVE
WORKSHOPS ABOUT HOW TO APPLY FOR
THE PROGRAM, BUT WE ALSO HAVE
OFFICE HOURS THAT ARE AVAILABLE
THROUGHOUT THE FUNDING CYCLE
OPENING WHERE PROSPECTIVE
APPLICANTS CAN, UM, SCHEDULED
TIME WITH OUR TEAM TO BE ABLE TO
TALK THROUGH THEIR TECHNICAL
ASSISTANCE QUESTIONS. WE ALSO
WORK WITH OUR PARTNER CREATE
ALTERNATIVES. FOR EQUITY,
FOCUSED TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE AND
BEING ABLE TO SEE WHERE THERE
MIGHT BE PROJECTS WITHIN
COMMUNITIES. THAT COMMUNITY, UM,
ENCOURAGED ALONG OR HELPED ALONG
, SO I THINK THERE'S DIFFERENT
CONSIDERATIONS. TECHNICAL
ASSISTANCE CAN BE A VERY BROAD
TERM. UM SO THERE'S UM WITHIN A
BLOCK GRANT. THERE MIGHT NOT BE
AS MUCH SPACE TO DO UM, WHITE
WHITE GLOVE SORT OF SERVICE OF,
UM, HELPING SPECIFICALLY WITH
THAT TRANSITION, BUT I THINK
THERE'S DIFFERENT. UM ELEMENTS
WITHIN OUR DESIGN, ALONG WITH
HAVING THE SHOVEL READINESS AND
THE FOCUS ON DIFFERENT TIERS OF
READINESS. THERE IS ALSO
CONSIDERATIONS FOR EQUITY WITHIN
THEIR AND ALSO, UM THE ABILITY
TO HAVE ALSO IN PAYMENTS
CURRENTLY WITHIN SOME OF OUR
PROGRAMS. SO THAT, UM THEY DON'T
HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THE ABSOLUTE
END TO GET REIMBURSED FOR THEIR
PROGRAMS. UM AND I THINK THAT
WITHIN ENERGIZED WE'VE ALSO BEEN
WORKING ON, UH, TECHNICAL
ASSISTANCE, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR
SCHOOL DISTRICTS MAY HAVE A
DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE THAN
TRANSIT AGENCIES OR TRADE. AND I
THINK THAT THE LEARNINGS FROM
OUR NEW CALIFORNIA FLEET ADVISOR
WILL BE REALLY INSTRUMENTAL AND
HOW THAT TECHNOLOGY. TECHNICAL
ASSISTANCE CAN BE SCALED THAT
ONE SPECIFICALLY FOCUSING ON
TRUCKS AND FLEETS. BUT I THINK
THE LEARNINGS FROM THAT CAN ALSO
BE HELPFUL TO SEE WHAT THE STATE
MORE BROADLY CAN DO THERE AND
FOCUSED TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE AND
THAT TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE THEN
INCLUDES, UM THINGS LIKE IF
YOU'RE HOME, YOU KNOW.
ELECTRICAL PANEL IS NOT DOESN'T
HAVE THE CAPACITY FOR INSTALLING
CHARGERS OR, UM, OR IN MULTI
FAMILY HOUSING. THINGS LIKE
THAT, LIKE DOES IT GO TO THAT
LEVEL TO SUPPORT UPGRADING, SO
WE DO HAVE RESOURCES AVAILABLE
ON OUR WEBSITE FOR WHAT
DIFFERENT SORT OF DOCUMENTS MAY
BE REQUIRED OR OR DIFFERENT
STEPS THAT MAYBE THROUGHOUT THE
PROCESS AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE
EXTENSIVE ENGAGEMENT WITH
INDUSTRY WITH OTHER PROGRAMS
THAT FUND THESE FUNDING
STAKEHOLDERS AS WELL AS EQUITY
FOCUS GROUPS TO CONTINUALLY
IMPROVE THE RESOURCES THAT WE
HAVE AVAILABLE. WE ALSO CAL
START HAVE, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE
INSIGHT TOOL AS WELL AS THE
FUNDING FINDER TOOL. AND THE
FUNDING FINDER CAN ALSO HELP YOU
FIND OTHER TYPES OF FUNDING
OPPORTUNITIES FOR VEHICLES,
EQUIPMENT OR INFRASTRUCTURE THAT
MAY BE AVAILABLE TO YOU. SO I
FOR COMMUNITIES IN CHARGE. WE
DON'T FOCUS ON HOME CHARGING FOR
SINGLE FAMILY HOMES OR UM, BUT.
FOR MULTI FAMILY HOUSING. I
THINK THAT'S AN AREA THAT WE CAN
EXPLORE MORE AS WELL TO SEE IF
THERE'S DIFFERENT TYPES OF
RESOURCES THAT MAY BE DIFFERENT
THAN OTHER TYPES OF CHARGING.
THAT MAY BE GOING IN. BUT I
THINK THROUGH THE CONTINUAL, UM,
ENGAGEMENT WITH NOT JUST
INDUSTRY BUT ALSO COMMUNITY TO
SEE WHAT IS NEEDED FOR MORE OF
THESE PROGRAMS TO COME ALONG FOR
MORE OF THESE CHARGING PROJECTS,
AS WELL AS FOR THE EQUITABLE
DISTRIBUTION OF THEM AND MAKING
SURE THAT COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT
THE STATE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY.
GREAT. AND, UM. LAST QUESTION,
AND YOU WERE, I THINK GETTING TO
IT THERE. YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT
TOOLS FOR PEOPLE TO FIND
FUNDING. SO IF PEOPLE ARE
WATCHING TODAY, AND THEY WANT TO
FIND OUT ABOUT HOW THEY CAN
ACCESS FUNDING, WHERE SHOULD
PEOPLE GO? HOW CAN THEY ACCESS
THESE PROGRAMS AND ENGAGE WOULD
BE HAPPY TO LOOK UP THE EXACT UM
UH, WEB U R L FOR THE FUNDING
FINDER. BUT UM, CANCER DOES HAVE
A FUNDING FINDERS AVAILABLE ON
BOTH THE COMMUNITIES IN CHARGE
AND THE, UM AND THE ENERGIZED
WEBSITE AND THE RESOURCES OF
FUNDING FINDER, AND WE'RE TEAM
IS WORKING TO CONTINUALLY UPDATE
THAT AS WELL. UM I THINK THAT
THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES
THROUGHOUT THE STATE WHETHER
FROM THE RESOURCES FORWARD FROM
THE AIR QUALITY MANAGEMENT
DISTRICTS FROM UTILITIES
THEMSELVES, NOT JUST IN THE, UM
INVESTOR OWNED UTILITIES, BUT
ALSO SOME INTERESTING MUNICIPAL
PROGRAMS. AS WELL AS THOSE AT
THE CALIFORNIA ENERGY
COMMISSIONER FUNDING, SO I THINK
THERE'S UM THOSE AS WELL AS THE
FEDERAL INVESTMENTS GOING IN AND
PRIVATE INVESTMENT. I THINK
THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY
HERE, AND I THINK THAT THE MORE
THE STATE CAN ALIGN AROUND THE
PRIORITIES FOR PRIOR TO
POPULATIONS, AND I REALLY
APPLAUD THE EFFORTS AS WELL. UM
TO, UM TO INVESTIGATE HOW THE
CHARGING CAN GO IN NOT JUST THE
GEOGRAPHIC EQUITY, WHERE THE
CHARGING STATIONS ARE LOCATED.
BUT WHO IT SERVES. A TRANSIT
AGENCY, FOR EXAMPLE, MAY HAVE A
NUMBER OF ROUTES THAT
SPECIFICALLY SERVE DISADVANTAGED
COMMUNITIES, BUT WHERE THOSE ARE
CHARGED, MAYBE IN A CENTRALIZED
DEPOT. THAT'S MAYBE IN ANY TYPE
OF COMMUNITY SO LOOKING TO WHERE
THE SERVICES ARE BENEFITING IS
ALSO I THINK IMPORTANT.
WONDERFUL. WELL THANK YOU BOTH,
YOU KNOW, REALLY APPRECIATE THE
WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING,
ESPECIALLY AROUND, UM,
ADDRESSING EQUITY AND ACCESS IN
COMMUNITIES THAT NEED IT THE
MOST. UM AND SO APPRECIATE YOU
BOTH BEING HERE AND WE'LL LET
YOU GO. FOR NOW. WE'D LOVE TO
BRING YOU BACK FOR A FULL PANEL
AT THE END IF WE HAVE TIME FOR
THAT, UM AS WELL IF THERE ARE
ANY MORE QUESTIONS, BUT WANT TO
BRING UP THE SECOND PANEL. UM
WHICH. WE HAVE, I THINK ALSO ON,
UM THE SCREEN. MACHEL MUELLER,
WHO IS THE MANAGER OF THE
CONNECTED AND AUTOMATED VEHICLES
, UM, AND AT THE MICHIGAN
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION,
WHO WILL BE UP FIRST, AND, UM, I
WOULD LOVE FOR A PANELIST TO
PROVIDE OPENING STATEMENTS AND
THEN WE CAN TURN TO THE
COMMITTEE FOR QUESTIONS. UM AND
WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO MICHELLE.
THANK YOU JUST CONFIRMING YOU
GUYS CAN HEAR ME. OKAY WE CAN
THANK YOU. PERFECT ABSOLUTELY. I
APOLOGIZE THAT I COULD NOT BE
THERE IN PERSON, BUT DUE TO SOME
OTHER SCHEDULED MEETINGS AND
THINGS WE COULDN'T MAKE IT OUT
THERE, BUT HAPPY TO BE ABLE TO
SHARE VIRTUALLY WITH YOU. SO UM,
I DO WANT TO EXPRESS MY THANK
YOU TO THE COMMITTEE AND SENATOR
FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE
SOME THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING
IN MICHIGAN. AND THEN HOPEFULLY
BE ABLE TO ANSWER ANY OF THE
QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. YOU KNOW, WE
DO. TAKE GREAT PRIDE AND SHARING
AMONGST AND ACROSS OUR DIFFERENT
STATES BECAUSE WE'RE ALL REALLY
ACHIEVE ITS WORKING AND TRYING
TO ACHIEVE THE SAME GOALS. SO UM
, GO AHEAD IN ADVANCE TO THE
NEXT ONE, PLEASE. RIGHT SO WE
ARE QUITE EXTENSIVE. THIS IS A
JUST DO A QUICK, HIGH LEVEL
CAPTURE OF THE E V. UM SITUATION
HERE IN MICHIGAN, AND THEN I'LL
DIG INTO YOU KNOW ONE OF THE
LEAD PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE. IN
THE SPACE THAT FOCUSES ON THE
INDUCTIVE CHARGING WHICH YOU HAD
REFERENCED IN THE LAST FUNERAL,
BUT YOU KNOW, REALLY KIND OF
BOILING INTO THREE PILLAR AREAS
THAT WE LOOK AT WITH ONE OF
THOSE BEING AROUND OUR INDUSTRY
AND WORKFORCE. UM HOW DO WE
ENABLE THE WORKFORCE HERE? HOW
DO WE BOLSTER THE MAC
MANUFACTURING CORE, AS MANY ARE
VERY FAMILIAR WITH? WE DO HAVE A
STRONG MANUFACTURING IN THE
AUTOMOTIVE SPACE SPECIFICALLY
AND REALLY GROWING IN THE
BATTERY SPACE HERE IN THE STATE
OF MICHIGAN. THE SECOND LOOKING
AT PROVIDING A SAFER, GREENER
AND MORE ACCESSIBLE
TRANSPORTATION, INFRASTRUCTURE
AND SERVICES. SO IT REALLY
FOCUSING ON HOW DO WE ACCELERATE
E V ADOPTION HERE IN MICHIGAN
WITH OUR USERS OF THE SYSTEM AND
PURCHASING THE VEHICLES AND
GIVING THEM THE CONFIDENCE THAT
THEY CAN CHARGE THOSE WITH SOME
OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT? ON THE LAST PANEL? YOU
KNOW, WE HAVE TO. WE HAVE TO
FIGURE THOSE OUT AND GIVE
CONFIDENCE IN ORDER FOR
CONSUMERS TO BUY. AND THEN ALSO,
HOW DO WE GROW THE
INFRASTRUCTURE SIDE OF THAT IN
THE E V SPACE WITH DIFFERENT
TYPES OF CHARGING THAT REALLY
ALLOWS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU
KNOW, UM, AN ECOSYSTEM. CREATION
OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF CHARGING
AS OPPOSED TO RELYING ON ONE
THAT MAY NOT BE SUITABLE, YOU
KNOW, TO ALL USERS OF THE
SYSTEM. AND THEN THE LAST WHICH
REALLY IS INTO MY SPACE,
ESPECIALLY WITH THE PROJECT. I'M
GOING TO SHOW YOU IS REALLY
LEADING IN POLICY AND
INNOVATION. SO LEADING THE R AND
D. AS I SAID, WE HAVE A TON OF
THAT GOING ON HERE IN MICHIGAN
WERE VERY HAPPY TO BE SUPPORTING
THAT. AND THEN HOW DO WE EXPAND
THAT INDUSTRY HERE IN MICHIGAN?
SO IT'S REALLY JUST OUTLINES.
YOU KNOW THE CORE GOALS THAT WE
CONTINUE TO EVALUATE AND STRIVE
FOR IN THIS SPACE. CAN ADVANCE
THE NEXT ONE, PLEASE. SO WE HAVE
A COUPLE EFFORTS THAT WE DO WITH
AT THE TOP HALF OF THE SIDE
REALLY SHOWS ARE DIFFERENT
STATEWIDE OR STATE AGENCIES AND
REALLY, HOW EACH OF THOSE BRING
A PIECE TO THE PUZZLE. WE'RE
VERY PROUD OF THIS COLLABORATION
THAT HAPPENS. WE ARE ONE AND
MAYBE THE ONLY STATE THAT,
ACTUALLY, UM, HAS THIS WHERE
WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ACCESS THE
DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS. CREATE A
GREAT ENVIRONMENT UTILIZING THE
SPECIALTIES OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS
, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE PICTURE,
REALLY BRINGING FORWARD THE
INFRASTRUCTURE, THE TALENT
POLICY. UM YOU KNOW THE ENERGY
AS FAR AS FOR THE CHARGING AND
THE GRID AND THEN ALSO FROM THE
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SIDE, SO
YOU KNOW, AS WE BRING THESE
TOGETHER, WE COLLABORATE ON A
LOT OF US ARE ON THE SAME CALLS
WITH YOU KNOW WHETHER IT BE
COMPANIES PROJECTS THOSE TYPES
OF THINGS. BECAUSE WE HAVE
RESOURCES. WE HAVE EXPERTS IN
THE AREA WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY
SOLVE CHALLENGES. UM INCREASED
THAT, LIKE I SAID, THAT
ECOSYSTEM THAT REALLY BRINGS IT
TOGETHER IN THE BOTTOM HALF,
YOU'LL SEE WE HAVE CREATED UM,
ACCOUNTS ON FUTURE MOBILITY
ELECTRIFICATION ORIGINALLY UNDER
GOVERNOR SNYDER, IT WAS JUST THE
COUNSELING FUTURE MOBILITY. UM,
WHEN GOVERNOR WHITMER TOOK
OFFICE, SHE DID EXPAND THAT INTO
ELECTRIFICATION. I'M NOT GOING
TO GO THROUGH ALL THE MEMBERS OF
THAT. BUT YOU CAN SEE AS YOU
READ THROUGH THOSE VERY DIVERSE
GROUP OF BOTH FROM THE PUBLIC
SIDE, BUT THEN ALSO FROM PRIVATE
AND ACADEMIA. PARTICIPATE IN
THAT GROUP. AND IT REALLY HAS A
CORE FUNCTION. NOT ONLY IN
ELECTRIFICATION, WE DO COVER
OTHER MOBILITY INITIATIVES AND
WE TALKED THROUGH. WE HAVE
STRATEGIC AREAS THAT WE FOCUS ON
TO TRY TO BRING ANY CHALLENGES
THAT MAY BE EXISTING TO
IMPLEMENTATION AND MOVE THOSE
FORWARD WITH THE HELP OF ALL THE
FOLKS THAT SIT ON THIS THIS
COUNCIL. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO
WHAT ARE SOME DIFFERENCE AGAIN?
I'M GOING TO STAY JUST TRYING TO
STAY HIGH LEVEL REALLY LOOKING
AT, YOU KNOW DIFFERENT WAYS,
DIFFERENT PLACES, DIFFERENT
TYPES OF THINGS WE CAN DO TO TRY
TO, YOU KNOW, REALLY MAKE THIS
AN EQUITABLE TYPE OF SYSTEM TO
BE USED. WE HAVE DIFFERENT
DEPLOYMENTS THAT WE'RE DOING.
ONE OF THOSE IS A LAKE MICHIGAN
EVEY CIRCUIT. REALLY WHAT THAT
IS, IS FOR THOSE THAT MAY BE
FAMILIAR. MAY NOT BE. WE DO HAVE
A LAKE MICHIGAN AND WE HAVE
BORDER STATES AROUND LAKE
MICHIGAN. SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS
WE'VE CREATED A MOU WITH OUR
PARTNERS AND OTHER STATES TO
ACTUALLY CREATE A TV CIRCUIT
AROUND THE LAKE. IT'S A VERY
HIGH, HEAVILY TRAVELED TOURISM
ROUTE IN THE SUMMER. YEAH AND A
LOT OF PEOPLE USE IT FOR
DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES AND THINGS
SO THE CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE
THAT'S THERE THERE IS SOME
ALREADY THAT EXISTS, AND WHAT
WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE EVALUATED
WHERE THE GAPS ARE ASSOCIATED
WITH GIVING THE CONFIDENCE TO
DRIVERS THAT THEY CAN ACTUALLY
TRAVEL THAT CIRCUIT. THEY CAN
ENJOY THEIR RECREATIONAL
ACTIVITIES AND THEY KNOW THAT
THEY CAN GET THERE. THEY KNOW
THEY CAN COMPLETE THEIR TRIP AND
THEY ALSO KNOW THEY CAN RETURN
HOME. AND HAVE THE ABILITY TO
GET A CHARGE THROUGHOUT THAT. SO
WE'RE UNDERWAY, UM, WITH SOME
FUNDING ASSOCIATED WITH FILLING
IN THOSE GAPS, SO HOPEFULLY
HAPPY TO SHARE. SOME UPDATES ON
THAT IN THE FUTURE IS THAT
CONTINUES TO GET BUILT OUT. THE
OTHER IS WORKING WITH OUR STATE
PARKS ARE DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL
RESOURCES HAS MOVED PRETTY
ACTIVELY IN THE SPACE TO INSTALL
CHARGING STATIONS THROUGH
DIFFERENT FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES,
SO THAT WHEN PEOPLE ARE ARE
ENJOYING THE RECREATION HERE IN
MICHIGAN, WHICH IS A AGAIN. VERY
HIGH USE AREA FOR US IS IN OUR
STATE PARKS IS THAT YOU KNOW
THEY CAN GO IN. THEY CAN PARK
THEY CAN BE GETTING, YOU KNOW,
RECEIVING A CHARGE WHILE THEY'RE
DOING THEIR ACTIVITIES, AND
MAYBE THEY'RE HAVING A PICNIC
AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AND THEY
COULD DO THOSE THEY CAN GET A
CHARGE AND THEY CAN CONTINUE ON
WITH THEIR DAY. THE OTHER IS
FOCUSING ON TV JOBS ACADEMY I
TALKED ABOUT IN THE LAST SLIDE,
LOOKING AT THE WORKFORCE, SO AS
WE CONTINUE TO LOOK AT
OPPORTUNITIES FOR, YOU KNOW,
EXPANDING OUR WORST WORKFORCE,
AND THOSE ARE NOT ONLY LOOKING
AT MAYBE THE OUR GROUP OF
GENERATION THAT'S COMING THROUGH
, YOU KNOW, HIGH SCHOOL COLLEGE
THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. BUT ALSO
REALLY LOOKING AND FOCUSING ON
THE FOLKS THAT MAYBE HAVE CHOSEN
A DIFFERENT LINE OF WORK TO GO
INTO THE PANDEMIC CREATED A LOT
OF THAT, UM AND NOW GIVING THE
OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE IN THAT
SPACE AND LOOKING FOR THOSE
OPPORTUNITIES TO MAYBE FIND
SOMETHING THAT WASN'T AVAILABLE
FOR THEM PREVIOUS THAT THEY'RE
REALLY INTERESTED IN DOING TODAY
HAD A LOT OF INTEREST IN, YOU
KNOW THE GENERATION. AS I SAID,
COMING UP THROUGH COLLEGE THAT
THEY DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THESE
EXIST, RIGHT? IT'S MOVING FAST.
IT'S MOVING QUICKLY, BUT WE
CANNOT PUT ASIDE THE FACT THAT
WE STILL NEED PEOPLE TO
MANUFACTURE THESE. ALL OF THESE
HARDWARE PIECES. UM WE NEED
PEOPLE TO INSTALL THEM. WE NEED
THEM TO MAINTAIN THEM. AND OF
COURSE, WE NEED PEOPLE TO BE
OPERATING THESE SYSTEMS AND
LOOKING AT HOW DO YOU SERVICE
THOSE? AND WHAT'S THE EXPERTISE
AND DOING THAT? SO WE SPENT
QUITE A BIT OF TIME WORKING WITH
OUR UNIVERSITIES FROM OUR
COMMUNITY COLLEGES UP THROUGH,
YOU KNOW, FOUR YEAR, DEGREES AND
WHATNOT. TO LOOK AT
OPPORTUNITIES FOR THAT TRAINING
AND THEN ALSO LOOK AT TRAINING
FOR CONTINUING THE WORKFORCE
THAT WE DO HAVE IN THESE SPACES
TO CONTINUE TO GROW THEM, AND
MAYBE THEY FIND AN INTEREST THAT
THEY DIDN'T HAVE AND GIVE THEM
THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE
TRAINING. UM AS WELL. THE LAST
ONE I'LL HIT ON IS A CHEMICAL WE
CALL THE COMMUNITY'S TOOLKIT.
REALLY WHAT IT IS TAKING
INFORMATION THAT'S IN THERE TO
GIVE ASSISTANCE TO COMMUNITIES.
RIGHT, EVERYBODY, AT LEAST HERE
IN MICHIGAN, A LOT OF THE LOCAL
COMMUNITIES TEND TO LOOK UP TO
THE STATE FOR DIRECTION AND
GUIDANCE, EDUCATION, THOSE TYPES
OF THINGS AS NEW THINGS COME
OUT. THIS IS NO DIFFERENT, SO
WE'VE CREATED A TOOLKIT THAT
ALLOWS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM
TO LOOK AT IT FOR FUTURE
PLANNING OPPORTUNITIES OF THINGS
THAT THEY NEED TO BE CONSIDERING
AS WE ARE OUT AND WORKING TO, I
KNOW MENTIONED ON THE LAST PANEL
WAS THE NEPHEW PLAN. WE
OBVIOUSLY HAVE THAT UNDERWAY
HERE IN MICHIGAN AS WELL. SO WE
HAVE COMMUNITIES. WE HAVE GROUPS
OF PEOPLE WHO ARE APPLYING FOR
THESE NAVY FUNDS, AND THESE ARE
OPPORTUNITIES AND TOOLS THAT
WILL ALLOW THEM TO UNDERSTAND
THINGS THEY NEED TO BE
CONSIDERING. AND THINGS THAT
THEY NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT
AS THEY PUT IN THEIR
APPLICATIONS. AND THEN AS THEY
LOOK FORWARD TO DEPLOYING IN THE
FUTURE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO
NOW JUMPING INTO AND ONE OF THE
REASONS I WANTED TO USE SOME
SIDES WAS TO GIVE SOME VISUALS.
I MEAN, VISUALS ARE ALWAYS SUPER
COOL WITH WITH THE NEW STUFF, SO
THESE ARE ACTUAL PICTURES THAT
HAVE BEEN INSTALLED WHAT YOU'LL
SEE UP AT THE TOP, ACTUALLY IS
WE HAVE MADE A OUT AT ONE OF OUR
TEST FACILITIES AND SITTING ON
THE CAMPUS OF THE UNIVERSITY OF
MICHIGAN. WE PUT IN A TEST
FACILITY OUT THERE. I'M SORRY. A
TESTING ENVIRONMENT OUT THERE.
IT'S A VERY SMALL STRIP. WE PUT
THE COILS IN SO THAT WHAT THAT
DOES IS, IT ALLOWS US THE
OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE
DEVELOPMENT. RIGHT? CONTINUE
TESTING. WE HAVE LEFT IT OPEN
WITH THE COILS OUT THERE SO THAT
WE CAN INTERACT AND CHANGE THOSE
AND THEN ALSO WE HAVE SOME OF
THE PICTURES HERE FOR A COUPLE
OF THE STATIC CHARGING WHICH YOU
CAN SEE IN THE LITTLE ONE THAT,
UM, SMALL PICTURE THERE THAT HAS
A STATIC CHARGING, SO WE HAVE AN
AREA IN DETROIT. IT'S AN
INNOVATION HUB BECOME MICHIGAN
CENTRAL THAT WE'VE CREATED WITH
A LOT OF STARTUPS AND WHATNOT,
AND WE BUILT AN ENVIRONMENT
THERE WHERE WE HAVE TO STATIC
CHARGING PADS AND THOSE WERE PUT
IN IN SEPTEMBER. AND WHAT THOSE
CAN DO IS REALLY LOOK AT IF WE
HAVE A SHUTTLE THAT WILL OPERATE
DOWN THERE SO THE ELECTRIC
SHUTTLE CAN TRAVERSE THE ROAD.
IT WILL GET THE CHARGING IN THE
ROAD, AND THEN IT CAN PULL UP ON
THESE PADS AND ACTUALLY RECEIVE
A CHARGE. WELL, IT'S SITTING
THERE. IT COULD BE LOADING,
UNLOADING, WAITING THOSE TYPES
OF ACTIVITIES. THE OTHER IS
SPECIFIC TO THESE AREAS IS
LOOKING AT OUR LAST MILE
DELIVERY SERVICES. SO IF YOU
THINK OF FEDEX UPS, AMAZON THOSE
TYPES OF SERVICES THIS IS THEY
COME AND DELIVER TO THIS AREA SO
THEY CAN PULL IN THERE. THEY CAN
BE RECEIVING A CHARGE WHILE
THEY'RE GRABBING THE PACKAGE OR
GOING IN DELIVERING IT COMING
BACK OUT, AND WHAT THEY'VE DONE
IS WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO GO FROM
A ZERO CHARGE TO 100% WHAT WE'RE
LOOKING TO DO IS TO EXTEND THEIR
TRIP, SO WE WANT TO GIVE THEM A
CHARGE WHEN THEY COME AND
DELIVER OR THEY RIDE OVER THE
ROAD SEGMENT THAT ACTUALLY
STARTED CONSTRUCTION YESTERDAY.
IS THEY WILL BE ABLE TO RECEIVE
A CHARGE AND CONTINUALLY EXTEND
THEIR TRIP. SO AS WE LOOK INTO
FURTHER DEVELOPMENT OF THESE IN
INSTALLATION, WE HAVE ANOTHER
SECTION THAT WILL BE GOING IN.
AS I SAID ONE PIECE STARTED
CONSTRUCTION YESTERDAY WE HAVE
ANOTHER PIECE THAT WILL BE ABOUT
THREE QUARTERS TO A MILE LONG ON
A DIFFERENT ROAD WAY CLOSE TO
THE PROXIMITY OF THIS ONE FOR US
, BUT THE REAL LOGISTICS TO THAT
IS FOCUSED ON TRANSIT. SO WE ARE
WORKING WITH OUR TRANSIT PARTNER
, WHICH IS DETACHED IN THE CITY
OF DETROIT, AND WE HAVE A BUS
MANUFACTURER SOON TO BE PUBLICLY
RELEASED. BUT WE HAVE A BUS
MANUFACTURER THAT WE'RE WORKING
WITH TO ENABLE AN ELECTRIC BUS.
AND THAT WILL RUN IN THE TRANSIT
LANES ON MICHIGAN AVENUE WHEN WE
RECONSTRUCT THAT, SO REALLY, THE
PILOT IS GIVING US THE
OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE AND
UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH CHARGE CAN
WE GET WITH THIS TYPE OF
CHARGING, BUT YOU KNOW, WE HAVE
PROJECTIONS OF WHAT THAT IS. BUT
WHAT'S FACTUAL BASED ON THE SIZE
OF THE VEHICLE BASED ON THE
SPEED THOSE TYPES OF THINGS? HOW
MUCH DOES THAT CHANGE BASED ON
THE WEATHER? YOU JUST STARTED
LOOKING AT ALL THE DIFFERENT
CHARACTERISTICS AND THEN ALSO AS
MENTIONED ON THE LAST PANEL,
PART OF IT IS TO REALLY PUSH AND
USE THIS AS AN ENVIRONMENT TO
SET THE STANDARDS FOR THIS
TECHNOLOGY, SO WE HAVE TO GET TO
WHERE WE HAVE STANDARDS FOR
INTEROPERABILITY. I KNOW HERE IN
MICHIGAN AND MANY OTHER STATES,
AND WE DO HAVE TO PUBLICLY BID
AH, PROJECTS LIKE THIS OUT. ONCE
THEY MOVE BEYOND A PILOT, SO HOW
DO WE CREATE THE
INTEROPERABILITY ENVIRONMENT
WHERE THE TECHNOLOGIES ON THE
ELECTRIC VEHICLES COMING OFF THE
LINE CAN INTEGRATE WITH THESE
COILS, REGARDLESS OF WHO THE
MANUFACTURERS ARE. NEXT SLIDE.
SO THE LEFT SIDE THAT I HAVE
HERE IS, YOU KNOW TO BRING
AWARENESS NOT ONLY TO THE
TECHNOLOGY SIDE THAT WE ALWAYS,
YOU KNOW, I GET EXCITED ABOUT
ESPECIALLY IN MY SPACE, BUT ALSO
TO BRING AWARENESS TO SOME OF
THE OTHER PIECES WE NEED TO BE
THINKING ABOUT. UM YOU KNOW,
TOUCH ON THOSE REAL QUICK, WE
HAVE TAKEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO
COMMUNITY OUTREACH. REALLY
IMPORTANT, SUPER INTERESTING
ENDEAVOR THAT IT'S BEEN SO FAR
AND INTERACTING WITH THE PUBLIC.
THEY DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THE
TECHNOLOGY IS. THEY DON'T KNOW
WHETHER TO BE AFRAID OF IT OR
NOT, AND YOU CAN SEE AND
DEMONSTRATE IN SOME OF THESE
PICTURES. YOU KNOW SOME OF THE
HANDS ON OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE
PROVIDED FOLKS TO ACTUALLY SEE
WHAT'S GOING IN THE GROUND IN
THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS. UM YOU KNOW
, ASK QUESTIONS GAINED COMFORT
OVER WHAT THE TECHNOLOGY
ACTUALLY IS, AND THEN ALSO
TAKING THE OPPORTUNITY TO REACH
OUT TO OUR STAKEHOLDERS
UNDERSTAND AGAIN. WHAT'S YOUR
CONCERNS? WHAT CAN WE DO FOR
BRINGING THIS IN? HOW DOES IT
WORK? HOW CAN THEY USE IT? UM
YOU KNOW, AND BEING VERY UPFRONT
WITH THEM TO SAY, YOU KNOW. HEY
THIS IS A PILOT WE HAVE RIGHT
NOW. YOU CAN'T TAKE IF YOU HAVE
AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE AND RIDE
OVER IT. HOWEVER WHEN WE CREATE
THESE STANDARDS, AND WE GET THAT
ENVIRONMENT AND THROUGH THESE
TESTING OPPORTUNITIES IS WE WILL
HAVE THOSE SET IN PLACE. SO THEN
YOU WILL BE ABLE TO USE IT
WHETHER YOU USE TRANSIT FOR YOUR
COMMUTE, WHETHER YOU HAVE YOUR
PERSONAL VEHICLE IF YOU WRITE A
SHUTTLE TO MOVE AROUND
EVERYBODY'S SCENARIO IS A LITTLE
DIFFERENT AND A REALLY STRIVE TO
PROVIDE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR
ENGAGEMENT OF ALL OF THOSE
DIFFERENT TYPES. SO VERY HAPPY
TO SHARE. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE
GOING ON HERE. MICHIGAN PRETTY
HIGH LEVEL HAPPY TO SHARE, YOU
KNOW, ADDITIONAL VIDEO AND
PICTURES AND THINGS LIKE THAT,
AS WE CONTINUE TO PROGRESS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH AND REALLY,
REALLY VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE YOU
BEING HERE. I'M SUPER EXCITED TO
SEE HOW THIS DEVELOPS, UM AS A
BIG FAN OF ELECTRIFYING ROADS IS
ONE OF THE IMPORTANT OPTIONS WE
NEED FOR, UM, ARE CHARGING NEEDS
AND, UM, TO REMOVE THAT RANGE
ANXIETY THAT PEOPLE HAVE AH, UM
SO WANTED TO MOVE ON HERE TO
MICHAEL. AND IF YOU CAN STICK
AROUND, MICHELLE, THAT WOULD BE
WONDERFUL. WE'D LOVE TO HAVE ALL
THE PANELISTS SPEAK AND THEN ASK
QUESTIONS AT THE END. UM MICHAEL
SAMUELSSON IS THE DEPUTY
DIRECTOR FOR ELECTRIFICATION AT
THE L. L. A MAYOR'S OFFICE OF
ENERGY AND SUSTAINABILITY. THANK
YOU FOR BEING HERE AND I'LL TURN
IT OVER TO YOU. THANK YOU. CHAIR
SHIAVO ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S CONNOLLY
. GOOD GOOD TO BE HERE. THANK
YOU FOR HAVING US ON THIS TOPIC,
WHICH I KNOW EVERYONE IN THIS
ROOM AND ON THIS PANEL IS VERY
EXCITED TO TALK ABOUT. UM SO I
I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR EIGHT
YEARS IN THIS MAYOR, THE CURRENT
MAYOR'S OFFICE AND THE PREVIOUS
SO REALLY BEEN ABLE TO SEE
THINGS GROW AND IT IS EXCITING
JUST TO SEE WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
MARK MENTIONED ONE OUT OF FOUR
CARS. IT'S PRETTY UNBELIEVABLE.
WE WERE TOUTING ONE OUT OF 10
JUST TWO YEARS AGO. AND, YOU
KNOW ONE OUT OF 15 3 YEARS AGO.
SO REALLY EXCITING. UM YES, IT
WORKS. AH SO I THINK IT'S
HELPFUL TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF
AN UNDERSTANDING. HOW DOES THIS
WORK LOCALLY? WHAT ARE WE DOING?
YOU KNOW, ON THE GROUND HERE IN
THE CITY, SO I'M GONNA PROVIDE
THE PERSPECTIVE TODAY FROM
WHAT'S GOING ON IN LOS ANGELES,
WHERE THE RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD.
UM WE'VE BEEN TAKING A SORT OF
TWO PRONGED APPROACH TO
ELECTRIFICATION OR OVER THE LAST
DECADE OR SO, BASICALLY A LEAD
BY EXAMPLE PATH AND THEN WHAT
WE'RE DOING EXTERNALLY, SO WE
EXPECT THAT WE CANNOT ASK OTHERS
TO DO SOMETHING THAT WE THE
MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT ARE NOT
WILLING TO DO. SO THAT MEANS
WE'VE BEEN ELECTRIFYING OUR
FLEET. WE'VE BEEN ELECTRIFYING
OUR BUSSES. WHERE WE'VE HELPED
LAUNCH AN E V. CAR SHARE PROGRAM
. BLUE L A TALK A LITTLE BIT
MORE ABOUT ALL THESE THINGS IN A
MOMENT. UH WE'RE PUTTING IN
PUBLIC CHARGING AT OUR PUBLIC AT
OUR MUNICIPAL FACILITIES. AND
THEN, OF COURSE, TRYING TO HELP
OUR EMPLOYEES GO ELECTRIC, WHERE
IT MAKES SENSE AND PUTTING IN
CHARGERS AT, UH, AT OUR CITY
FACILITIES ON THE PUBLIC SIDE.
WE HAVE THE WONDERFUL TOOL OF A
MUNICIPAL UTILITY AND YOU'LL
HEAR MORE FROM A MEAL SO I WON'T
SPEND TOO MUCH ON IT, BUT HE HAS
GENEROUSLY GIVEN OUT MILLIONS
AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR
REBATES AND INCENTIVES. WE'RE
VERY THANKFUL FOR THAT, AND WE
KNOW THAT IT'S GONE A LONG WAY
TO GETTING INFRASTRUCTURE
CHARGED INSTALLED THROUGHOUT THE
CITY. UM WE'RE FOREVER WORKING
ON PERMIT STREAMLINING. KNOW
THAT THE SYSTEM ISN'T PERFECT.
NO, THERE'S A LOT OF FRICTION
AND ALWAYS THINGS WE CAN DO TO
BE IMPROVING. SO WE LIKE TO HEAR
FROM OUR STAKEHOLDERS IN
INDUSTRY AND THOSE WHO ARE ON
THE END OF PERMITTING AND
DEVELOPMENT SO WE CAN IMPROVE.
UM WE HAVE A CLASS LEADING
BUILDING CODE HERE IN LOS
ANGELES. IT'S ACTUALLY AS FAR AS
I KNOW, THE FURTHEST REACHING
AND IN THE COUNTRY WE NOW
REQUIRE ONE AT A MINIMUM FOR
MULTI FAMILY RESIDENCES. 1 240
VOLT OUTLET AT A MINIMUM FOR
EACH DWELLING UNIT. SO THAT'S
NEW CONSTRUCTION. IT'S OBVIOUSLY
ONLY GONNA WORK ON WHAT'S NEWLY
BEING BUILT, BUT YOU GOTTA START
SOMEWHERE. UM WE'RE DOING A LOT
ON PUBLIC CHARGE, AND I'LL TALK
A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT
DIRECTLY. AND OF COURSE, WE'RE
TRYING TO ENABLE MORE OF THAT.
WHERE WE HAVE SEVERAL TARGETED
WORKING GROUPS ON TNCS UBER LYFT
. THINGS LIKE THAT TO MAKE SURE
THEY'RE ABLE TO GO ELECTRIC AND
MAYBE EVEN SPEED UP THE 2030
DEADLINE FOR THEM, UH AND MEDIUM
DUTY HEAVY DUTY FREIGHT GOODS
MOVEMENT WORKING GROUP AND THEN
JUST RECENTLY THIS YEAR, DWP
ALSO PUT OUT A GRID CAPACITY
MAP, WHICH IS HUGE FOR
DEVELOPERS. THIS IS UPDATED
QUARTERLY, I THINK AND MAYBE A
MEAL. WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT
MORE TO THAT AS WELL. TREMENDOUS
HELP FOR THE DEVELOPMENT SIDE.
SO YOU KNOW WHERE CAN I DO THIS
QUICKLY? RIGHT. WHERE IS THE LOW
HANGING FRUIT? UM AND THEN
UTILITY RATES AND OTHER PROGRAMS
THAT THAT YOU'LL ALSO HEAR ABOUT
FROM DWP. SO VISUAL SPEAK MORE
THAN MY MONOTONOUS VOICE. SO
HERE THE MUNICIPAL FLEET WE'VE
GOT OVER 1500 VEHICLES IN IT SO
FAR, WE ARE WE HAVE A FLEET OF
OVER 20,000 PIECES OF EQUIPMENT,
SO THERE'S A LONG WAY TO GO. UM
AND I THINK MUNICIPAL FLEETS ARE
VERY INTERESTING BECAUSE THEY
REPRESENT THE HARD CASE. WE'RE
DOING OUR SEDANS THAT THAT'S NOT
A PROBLEM. THAT'S DOABLE, BUT
BUT YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE MORE
SPECIALIZED EQUIPMENT. HERE WE
HAVE NORTH AMERICA'S FIRST
ELECTRIC FIRE ENGINE THERE IN
THE MIDDLE OF THE SCREEN. WE
HAVE AN ELECTRIC STREET SWEEPER
THERE AT THE BOTTOM THAT'S
ACTUALLY A MINI SWEEPER FOR BIKE
LANES. UH AND WE ACTUALLY ALSO
HAVE THE FIRST FULL SIZED
ELECTRIC SWEEPER IN ARE WE JUST
STARTED TESTING OUT RECENTLY,
AND WE'RE GOING TO BE ORDERING
SEVERAL OF THOSE RECENT SOON YOU
CAN SEE AN F 1 50 LIGHTNING. WE
TRIED TO GET THEM AS SOON AS WE
COULD. I ALSO JUST TOOK A RIDE
IN A CHEVY SILVERADO E V THE
OTHER DAY, SO WE WANT IT AND
WHEN IT COMES OUT, WE'RE TRYING
TO DO IT WITH OUR OWN FLEETS. UM
AND THE WAY WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO
DO THAT IS WITH A ZERO MISSION
FIRST PROCUREMENT POLICY SO
BEFORE IT WAS CLEAR HOW THE
TECHNOLOGY IS GOING TO WORK, WE
SAID ALRIGHT, WELL, 50% OF YOUR
NEW VEHICLES NEED TO BE ELECTRIC
AND OR ZERO MISSION AND WE'VE
MOVED FROM THERE TO GREAT
SUCCESS. THERE'S ALWAYS
RESISTANCE AT FIRST, BUT PEOPLE
EVENTUALLY COME ALONG ONCE THEY
JUST DRIVE IT ONCE OR TWICE.
ELECTRIC BUSSES. THIS IS, UH, AT
ONE OF L E. D O T S ELECTRIC
DASH BUSSES. THEY HAVE 44 OF
THESE RUNNING IN THE SYSTEM
RIGHT NOW ANOTHER EIGHT OR SO
THAT WILL BE COMING ONLINE
IMMINENTLY IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS
AND ABOUT ANOTHER 100 OR SO THAT
WILL BE COMING INTO SERVICE OVER
THE NEXT YEAR. UM, GETTING
CHARGING IN THE GROUND IS
DEFINITELY THE HARD PART. AND AS
WE MOVE INTO THIS MEDIUM AND
HEAVY DUTY EQUIPMENT FINDING THE
POWER BEING ABLE TO MOVE IT
WHERE YOU NEEDED TO BE. THESE
ARE THESE ARE THE REAL
COMPLICATIONS. ANOTHER BIG
PROGRAM FOR US IS OUR BLUE L, A
POWERED BY BLINK MOBILITY, TV
CAR SHARE PROGRAM, AND THIS IS A
WONDERFUL EXAMPLE OF, UM OF
PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS. SO
WE HAVE AN OPERATOR BLINK
MOBILITY AND THEN THE PROGRAM
ITSELF IS SPONSORED BY THE CITY
AND OF COURSE, CARB, WHICH HAS
GENEROUSLY FUNDED IT ON SEVERAL
OCCASIONS. SO THIS IS BRINGING,
UM ELECTRIC AND ZERO MISSION
MOBILITY INTO LOW INCOME
NEIGHBORHOODS. SO FAR, THE 40
STATIONS WE HAVE ARE ALL LOCATED
IN HIGH CALIBER VIRUS GREEN
AREAS. I BELIEVE IT'S 85% OR
ABOVE ON THE CALENDAR VIRUS
GREENS WHO ARE MAKING SURE THAT
THESE ARE GOING INTO PLACES THAT
ONE THAT ARE BURDENED AND TO
THAT TYPICALLY DON'T HAVE ACCESS
TO A LOT OF ZERO EMISSION
MOBILITY RIGHT NOW. SO THE
PROGRAM IS GREAT PEOPLE LIKE IT.
IT HAS ITS CHALLENGES. VANDALISM
IS REAL. WE'LL ALL BE TALKING A
LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT, BUT,
UM, WE'RE LAUNCHING A PHASE TWO.
WE'RE GOING TO BUILD ANOTHER 60
STATIONS, UH, AND STUFF AND PUT
OUT ANOTHER 150 VEHICLES. AGAIN
JUST QUICKLY. PUBLIC AND
EMPLOYEE CHARGING. THIS IS AN
EXAMPLE. IT TAKES A LOT GETTING
TO GET IT DONE. BUT ONCE IT'S
THERE, PEOPLE USE IT. I CAN TELL
YOU IT REALLY DOES WORK ARE WHEN
WE OPENED UP OUR BIG CITY
MUNICIPAL PARKING GARAGE IN 2019
WITH ABOUT 80 CHARGERS. IT WAS
NOT FULL EVERY DAY, THE PANDEMIC
HIT THAT OBVIOUSLY HAD ITS OWN
EFFECTS. BUT I CAN TELL YOU IF
YOU DON'T GET IN BY 7, 30 OR
EIGHT NOW YOU'RE NOT GETTING A
CHARGER. THAT'S IT'S OVER TOO
MANY TOO MANY TVS. UM A REALLY
EXCITING ONE. HERE IS OUR
CURBSIDE PUBLIC CHARGING ON OUR
STREET LIGHTS. SO THIS IS AN
EXAMPLE OF SORT OF SMART CITIES
BENEFITING, YOU KNOW ONE
INTERVENTION BENEFITS, ANOTHER
INTERVENTION. WE WENT AHEAD AND
OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS CONVERTED
ALL OF OUR STREET LIGHTS FROM,
YOU KNOW, THE OLD HIGH CONSUMING
, UH, YOU KNOW, MIDDLE ALLIED
HIGH PRESSURE SODIUM LIGHTS TO
LEDS THAT FREED UP CAPACITY ON
THE CIRCUIT. NOW WE CAN PUT
CHARGES IN ON THE STREET LIGHTS.
UM WE'VE GOT ABOUT 700 OF THEM
INSTALLED NOW. AGAIN THEY HAD
COME WITH ALL THE CHALLENGES OF
PUTTING SOMETHING IN THE RIGHT
OF WAY, SO THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT
AMOUNT OF VANDALISM. UM YOU KNOW
PEOPLE THERE'S THEFT IS REAL
COPPER THEFT ISRAEL EVEN THOUGH
THERE'S NOT A LOT OF COPPER IN
THEM, UM AND, AS ALYSSA WAS
SAYING EARLIER, SOMETIMES IT'S
JUST GETTING THE SUPPLIES THAT
WE NEED TO FIX THEM. YOU KNOW
MORE THAN THE ABILITY TO GO OUT
AND FIX THEM IS CAN BE A
CHALLENGE. I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT
SOMETHING REALLY INTERESTING
HERE FROM THE CONSUMPTION OF
THESE CHARGERS, SO THIS IS
AVERAGE KILOWATT HOUR
CONSUMPTION PER WEEK ACROSS THE
ACROSS THE FLEET OF CHARGERS
SINCE ABOUT MID 2019, YOU CAN
SEE THERE'S A THERE'S A HUGE
SPIKE. THAT'S WHEN WE MADE IT
FREE DURING THE FIRST YEAR OF
THE PANDEMIC. PEOPLE LIKE FREE
STUFF. UM THE THEY'RE VERY FAIR.
IT'S JUST BASICALLY THE COST OF
A PARKING METER. SO THEY'RE NOT.
IT'S NOT VERY EXPENSIVE. BUT IN
ANY EVENT YOU CAN SEE OVER TIME.
AS WE'VE ADDED MORE. THE AND
MORE PEOPLE HAVE GOTTEN TVS. THE
ACTUAL PER CHARGER CONSUMPTION
IS GOING UP AND VERY INTERESTING
TO ME. I JUST SAW THIS DATA FOR
THE FIRST TIME YESTERDAY IN THE
LAST FIVE MONTHS, IT'S REALLY
SPIKED. UM SO WE WERE SORT OF
HOVERING AT AROUND. UM UH, YOU
KNOW, 32 TO 3 TIMES MORE
CONSUMPTION THAN 2019. AND NOW
WE'RE AT SIX TIMES THE
CONSUMPTION PER ON AVERAGE FROM
2019. VERY QUICKLY JUST TO WRAP
UP SOME DWP PROGRAMS LIKE I
MENTIONED THEY'VE THEY'VE SPENT
A LOT OF MONEY. I WON'T BELABOR
THIS SINCE SOME MEALS HERE, UH,
THE PHENOMENAL GRID CAPACITY MAP
THAT'S OUT THERE REALLY HELPFUL.
AND THEN JUST LASTLY, SOME OF
THIS OTHER STUFF WE WORK ON THAT
I MENTIONED I'LL STOP WITH JUST
A COUPLE OF STATISTICS. SO
REITERATE WHAT MARK SAID. SO WE
CAN PAT OURSELVES ON THE BACK
25% OF THE VEHICLES. BEING
PURCHASED RIGHT NOW ARE ZERO
MISSION THAT'S TREMENDOUS. IN
THE CITY'S TOTAL FLEET, JUST
CITY OF L. A. WHICH IS NOT, YOU
KNOW, IT'S ABOUT MAYBE 1.6
MILLION VEHICLES WORRIED ABOUT
EIGHT OR 8.5% OF THE TOTAL FLEET
HAS BEEN CONVERTED. SO WHILE
WE'VE DONE SO MUCH WE HAVE 90 TO
92% OF THE JOB TO DO, AND THAT'S
JUST FOR THE LIGHT DUTY FLEET,
SO I REALLY WANT TO SAY FOR
EVERYONE WHO'S HERE AND ALL OF
US WHO ARE WORKING ON THIS. WE
DO HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH,
MICHAEL. UM WONDERFUL TO SEE THE
WORK AND REALLY INVESTMENT THAT
THE CITY IS MAKING TO BE A
LEADER IN THIS ISSUE. UM A MEAL.
ABDUL SHAHID. I WANTED TO TURN
IT OVER TO YOU, THE ASSISTANT
DIRECTOR OF THE POWER NEW
BUSINESS AND ELECTRIFICATION
DIVISION AT THE DEPARTMENT OF
WATER AND POWER. THANKS FOR
BEING HERE. GOOD MORNING. THANK
YOU FOR HAVING HAVING ME HERE
AND DEPARTMENT OF WATER AND
POWER SEES ITSELF AS THAT BRIDGE
TO THE CUSTOMERS. WE HAVE THAT
VERY UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO NOT
JUST INTERACT WITH THE CUSTOMERS
AS THEY SEE THE DEPARTMENT BUT
ALSO PROVIDE THEM AN ESSENTIAL
SERVICE THAT MAKES ELECTRIC
VEHICLES ELECTRIFICATION
POSSIBLE. UH NOT NOT JUST DO WE
MAKE IT POSSIBLE. WE HAVE TO GO
BEYOND JUST PROVIDING THAT THOSE
ELECTRONS TO THE CUSTOMERS. WE
RECOGNIZE THAT IN THE CITY OF
LOS ANGELES, AN AVERAGE TWO
INCOME HOUSEHOLD CAN SEE A
SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION IN THEIR
OVERALL HOUSEHOLD COSTS SIMPLY
BY BUYING OR OWNING AN ELECTRIC
VEHICLE. UM WE SEE THAT HAVING
AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE ACROSS THE
CITY OF LOS ANGELES CONTINUES TO
PUT A DOWNWARD PRESSURE ON OUR
RATES, WHICH POSITIVELY IMPACTS
ALL OF OUR CUSTOMERS. UM AND
BRINGING BRINGING E V S INTO THE
GRID. UH, IS GOING TO COST OUR
CUSTOMERS LESS OVER THE LIFESPAN
OF THE VEHICLE OF THE VEHICLE
THAN HAVING A INTERNAL
COMBUSTION VEHICLE. IN ADDITION
TO ALL THAT THE INTERCONNECTION
OF THESE TECHNOLOGIES WHETHER
THEY BE BATTERED, RE BETTER
BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE VEHICLE
TO GRID OR VARIOUS TECHNOLOGIES
THAT SUPPORT ELECTRIC VEHICLE.
ELECTRIFICATION. EXCUSE ME.
REQUIRE. THE UTILITIES
INTERACTION WITH THE UTILITY GET
THAT INFRASTRUCTURE INTO
INTERCONNECTED. IN ADDITION,
JUST SEEN FROM A CUSTOMER
PERSPECTIVE, WE ALSO HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SEE IT ON A
BROADER SCALE, WHETHER IT'S
SUPPORTING THE PORTAL LOS
ANGELES, ONE OF THE LARGEST
PORTS IN THE UNITED STATES,
ELECTRIFY IT'S EQUIPMENT, UM,
LOOKING AT VARIOUS THE DELIVERY
AND DRAINAGE TRUCKS,
ELECTRIFICATION PROJECTS AS WELL
, WHICH IS ANOTHER BIG PUSH
THAT'S GOING TO COME HERE IN THE
VERY SHORT TERM. UM AND ALSO
LOOKING AT OTHER OUR OTHER CITY
DEPARTMENTS, OUR COUNTY AND
THOSE PUBLIC SERVICE AREAS THAT
ARE LOOKING TO ELECTRIFY OUR
ROLE IN MAKING THAT POSSIBLE IS
VERY CRITICAL AND A CRITICAL
PATH. AND SO WE DEFINITELY
RECOGNIZE THAT AS AS MICHAEL
MENTIONED OVER THE LAST SEVERAL
YEARS SINCE 2018 WE'VE PUT ABOUT
$115 MILLION IN REBATES MADE
THAT AVAILABLE TO OUR OUR
SERVICE TERRITORY IN VARIOUS
FORMS, WHETHER THEY BEAT THE
RESIDENTIAL REBATE PROGRAMS FOR
A SIMPLE LEVEL TWO CHARGER OR
THROUGH COMMERCIAL REBATES FOR
WORKPLACE CHARGING MULTI FAMILY
DWELLING UNITS AND ALSO TO HELP
FAMILIES BY ELECTRIC VEHICLES.
WE HAVE USED DV REBATE PROGRAM
AS WELL. AND SO WE DO RECOGNIZE
IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT THE
CHARGING. IT'S ALSO ABOUT
GETTING THOSE VEHICLES IN OUR
RATEPAYERS, HANDS IN THE
CITIZENS OF LOS ANGELES HANDS.
UM AND OVER THE COURSE OF THAT
TIME WE DO HAVE SOME VERY
AGGRESSIVE ELECTRIFICATION GOALS
IN TERMS OF CHARGERS, AND SO A
LOT OF THESE REBATE PROGRAMS ARE
REALLY HELPING US ACHIEVE SOME
OF THOSE GOALS. UM 120,000
CHARGES IN THE CITY OF LOS
ANGELES BY 2030 IS ONE OF THOSE
GOALS AND HAVING 3000 OF THOSE
BEING DC FAST CHARGES ACROSS THE
CITY. IS THAT GOING TO BE
ENOUGH? UM, THE WAY THINGS ARE
GOING? PROBABLY NOT. WE PROBABLY
HAVE TO LOOK AT MORE AGGRESSIVE
GOALS TO HELP US REALLY SUPPORT
BUS ELECTRIFICATION. PUBLIC
TRANSPORTATION. WE HAVE THE
OLYMPICS COMING IN 2028 PART OF
THE WORLD CUP IS GOING TO BE, UM
IN THE UNITED STATES, AND SO WE
REALLY HAVE TO LOOK LOOK TOWARD
THOSE THINGS AND SET THE EXAMPLE
FOR, UM FOR ELECTRIFICATION. SO
THANK YOU. WONDERFUL THANK YOU.
UM AND THANK YOU FOR YOU KNOW
YOUR SUPPORT TO REALLY HELP MAKE
THIS TRANSITION HAPPEN. UM
DOCTOR, STEVIE RUIZ IS AN
ASSOCIATE PROFESSOR OF CAL STATE
NORTHRIDGE. HAPPY TO HAVE YOU
HERE AND HAPPY TO BE IN YOUR
HOME HOME AREA HOME ZONE HERE,
UM, TO TALK ABOUT THE WORK THAT
YOU'RE DOING. THANK YOU FOR
INVITING ME. UM AND I FEEL LIKE
A BAD TEACHER BECAUSE I DIDN'T
SEND MY SLIDES AND ALL THE TIME.
SO IF YOU SEE THAT SLIDE SHOW
THAT'S FINE. UM, SPENDING MEET
MY DEADLINE. SO SORRY. UM OK. DO
YOU HAVE IT TO GIVE YOU HAVE A
COUPLE THAT ARE GOING AROUND
THIRD CIRCULATING SO THE
AUDIENCE WILL SING? OKAY SO THEY
ACTUALLY HAVE A AND YOU HAVE A
SET OF SLIDES IN FRONT OF YOU,
THEN I'LL BE GOING WITH SOME OF
THE FIRST. OR YOU CAN GO TO THE
NEXT PAGE, AT LEAST IS, UM
THERE'S AN IMAGE OF KIND OF
THREE SETS OF FREEWAYS. THAT'S
THE 10111 10 AND PASADENA
THROUGH SAN PEDRO. AND TO
PASADENA. ONE OF THE THINGS I
ALWAYS LIKE TO START IS TO GIVE
A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ABOUT
THE HISTORY OF INFRASTRUCTURE
WHEN IT COMES TO, UM, ARE MOVED
FROM PUBLIC TO PRIVATE ON
VEHICLES. AND, UM ONE OF THE
THINGS. I DON'T HAVE IT. BUT IF
I COULD I HAVE MY SLIDES IN
FRONT OF, BUT IT'S ON CANADA. NO
WORRIES. NO WORRIES. UM BUT ONE
OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK IS
IMPORTANT IS TO TALK ABOUT THE
TRANSITION FROM PUBLIC TO
PRIVATE, UM, PRIVATE OPERATING
VEHICLES AND THE REASON WHY IS
IN THE 19 SEVENTIES, WE DID HAVE
AN OPPORTUNITY TO TURN UM TO
INVESTING IN MORE OF IN OUR
PUBLIC SECTOR. SO I'M SO GLAD
THAT YOU'RE HERE BECAUSE, UM,
THAT CONVERSATION WAS A
DIVESTMENT THAT MADE THAT
INTENTIONALLY HAPPENED AND IT
WAS DRIVEN BY MANUFACTURING
COMPANIES. UM PRIVATE OPERATING
MOTOR VEHICLES WAS A FAIRLY NEW
PHENOMENON. MOST PEOPLE GOT TO
WORK, UM, USING PUBLIC TRANSIT
TRANSPORTATION, BUT WE DECIDED
TO INVEST AS AS CALIFORNIA INTO
OUR FREEWAY SYSTEM, AND THIS HAS
HAD A DEVASTATING IMPACT ON
COMMUNITIES OF COLOR UNTIL THIS
DAY. BECAUSE ALL THOSE POLLUTION
BURDEN INDEXES THAT YOU'RE
YOU'RE REFERRING TO ARE CAUSED
BY FREEWAYS. UM PEOPLE ARE DIRTY
BREATHING IN THE DIRTIEST ERA
QUALITY AND I'LL JUST GIVE AN
EXAMPLE PEOPLE THAT LIVE OFF THE
1 18 IN THE CITY OF SAN FERNANDO
HAVE AN INDEX BETWEEN 90 TO 95%
ON THE CALENDAR VIRUS SCREEN.
WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT THAT
COMMUNITY BREEZE IN THE ANTICS
IN THE BURDEN OF 90, THE OTHER
CALIFORNIANS STONE SO THAT JUST
GIVES YOU A KIND OF INDEX AND
THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT BECAUSE
OF THE IMPACT OF CLIMATE CHANGE.
WE'VE ALSO SEEN THAT THOSE
COMMUNITIES HAVE THE LEAST
TRADES AND TREES SHADE DENSITY.
SO THIS IS ACTUALLY WHAT PEOPLE
HAVE CALLED, UM LIKE SHADE
EQUITY BECAUSE CHILDREN
LITERALLY CANNOT GO OUTSIDE
ANYMORE BECAUSE OF THE FACT
DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS OR EVEN
DURING THE EARLY PART OF THE
FALL, UM, TO GO OUT IN SCHOOL IN
THE SCHOOLYARD, SO WE'VE BEEN
ACTUALLY ENGAGED IN A GREENING
CAMPAIGN AS WELL. BUT I JUST SAY
THAT BECAUSE WHEN WE'RE LOOKING
AT ALL THIS DATA, I JUST WANT TO
BE MINDFUL THE FACT THAT HUMAN
TOLL AND THE HUMAN IMPACT THAT
WE THAT NUMBERS DON'T TELL US
AND THAT'S I THINK IT'S PEOPLE'S
STORIES. AND WHILE WE ARE
INTENTIONAL NOW, I THINK, UM I
WANT TO BE VERY INTENTIONAL.
THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT EQUITY
IS A FAIRLY NEW ONE TO BE QUITE
FRANK IN THE POST GEORGE FLIGHT
MOMENT. UM BUT I THINK EQUITY IS
NOT JUST ABOUT INTENTION. IT'S
ABOUT YOUR OUTCOMES. SO WE HAVE
TO BE TRACKING WHAT ARE
INTENTIONAL OUTCOMES AND OUTPUT.
AND HOW IS IT ACTUALLY
DELIVERING TO THOSE COMMUNITIES
THAT WE INTEND TO SERVE THE
MOST? UM AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE
WE'VE SEEN, FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE
EXPANSION OF THE FREEWAY SYSTEM
OFF THE FIVE FREEWAY, BOYLE
HEIGHTS WAS MOST IMPACTED. SO WE
KNOW THAT EMINENT DOMAIN BUT
ALSO, UM, IN THE CORRIDOR OF THE
7 10 FREEWAY, WHERE WE'VE SEEN
THAT COMMUNITY MEMBERS HAVE HAD
TO FIGHT BACK AGAINST CALTRANS,
FOR EXAMPLE, I'LL GIVE AN
EXAMPLE IN A MOMENT. UH UM, JUST
BECAUSE THEIR COMMUNITIES ARE
GOING TO BE BULLDOZED, BUT ALSO
CALTRANS AND I'LL GET INTO THIS
IS ONE OF THE LARGEST REAL
ESTATE INVESTORS IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA, AND THEY WERE
AMASSING HUGE AMOUNTS OF REAL
ESTATE PROPERTY AND HOARDING
THEM FOR A VERY LONG TIME TILL
THIS DAY, AND IN THE EVENT THAT
THEY WANTED TO EXPAND THE
FREEWAY. THOSE HOMES ARE STILL
VACANT TILL THIS DAY, EVEN
THOUGH WE HAVE ONE OF THE
LARGEST HOMELESS POPULATION
PROBLEMS IN IN THE COUNTRY. KIND
OF GIVES YOU THAT KIND OF
DELIVERABLES AS WELL. THIS IS
OVER A 40 YEAR, PROBABLY PAD IN
THE CITY OF CULTURE IN LOS
ANGELES. THE THIRD COMPONENT,
AND I'LL MOVE TO THE NEXT SLIDE
IS, UM, THOSE COMMUNITIES THAT
LIVE ADJACENT TO FREEWAYS LIKE I
SAID, HAVE HIGHER ESTÁ MATIC
RATES. HIGHER LIKELIHOOD OF
HYPERTENSION, HEART FAILURE,
HEART DISEASE, AND THESE ARE
DIRECTLY INDUCE AROUND
ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT AND
ENVIRONMENTAL INEQUITY. UM YOU
CAN DRAW A LINKAGE THAT PEOPLE
THAT HAD THE HIGHEST MORBIDITY
RATES DURING COVID 19, WHERE
PEOPLE THAT LIVE NEXT TO
FREEWAYS. THOSE TWO THINGS WERE
OVERLAPS WITH COMORBIDITIES. UM,
IN ADDITION TO PEOPLE WHO ARE
HOUSE LISTEN LIVING ON THE
STREETS OF LOS ANGELES. AH UM
AND I THINK THAT'S CRITICAL AND
HOW WE THINK OF HOW CALIFORNIA,
ESPECIALLY LOS ANGELES, HAS
GOTTEN SO ACCUSTOMED TO OUR
FREEWAY ECOLOGY. NOW WHERE WE IN
THIS IS THE INTERESTING THING I
THINK IS FIND IS THAT I FIND SO
INTERESTING AS A RESEARCHER. THE
PURPOSE OF RE WAYS TO IT WAS TO
GET PEOPLE FROM POINT A TO POINT
B IN A FASTER MANNER. BUT WE
ACTUALLY FOUND THAT PEOPLE THAT
LIVE IN THE METROPOLITAN L. A
AREA DON'T TRAVEL THAT FAR ON A
DAILY OUTSIDE OF WORK, THEY
ACTUALLY STAY WITHIN THEIR
NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE
FREQUENTLY MORE FREQUENT WEIGHT
LIVING, AND IT'S ACTUALLY PEOPLE
THAT ARE GOING THROUGH THE CITY
AS COMMUTERS. BUT FOR A VERY
LONG TIME, WITH THE ADDITION OF
WHITE FLIGHT AND THE 19 EIGHTIES
WERE WHITE COMMUNITIES WERE
MOVING INTO
ORANGE-COUNTY-REGISTER-TOO-SOON-COUNTY-VOTE-CENTERS
. OF CAPITAL INTERESTS. AND NOW
PEOPLE ARE WANTING TO COME BACK
TO THIS CITY TO REINVEST AND
THIS IS WHY WE HAVE THIS
RESURGENCE OF INTEREST AROUND.
HOW DO WE ACCOMMODATE THAT CLASS
SECTOR, SO I THINK IT'S ALWAYS
DRIVEN TO BY BEING MINDFUL OF
WHO ADMIRE WE REALLY INTERESTED
IN DOING THIS, BUT WHAT IS THE
OUT THE OUTCOME OF IT? THE
IMPACT OF IT IN ADDITION, WE'VE
SEEN SIZABLE EXPANSION OF
FREEWAYS TILL THIS DAY. AND UM,
THE CONTINUANCE AND JUST MOVING
TO THE NEXT SLIDE OF USING
FREEWAYS AS A MEANS TO CREATE OR
MODERNIZED THE CITY OF L. A
WE'VE SEEN THIS HUGE IMPACT, BUT
VERY OFTEN THOSE COMMUNITIES ARE
YOU OFTEN BLACK AND LATINO. AND
I'LL GIVE YOU ONE EXAMPLE AS
WELL UP THERE, AND I JUST
MENTIONED THIS OFF THE 7 10
CORRIDOR. CALTRANS HAS BEEN IN
THE DISPUTE WITH THE COMMUNITY
ORGANIZATION CALLED RECLAIMING
OUR HOMES. THIS IS A GROUP OF
OVER 13 FAMILIES DURING THE
PANDEMIC THAT RECLAIMED HOMES
INTO THEIR HANDS OUT OF THE
HANDS OF CALTRANS. THESE HOMES
WERE PRETTY MUCH VACANT, THERE
WERE OVER 200 HOMES. AND
CALTRANS HAD BEEN HOARDING THESE
HOMES FOR OVER 40 YEARS THEY
WERE AND SO WHEN THESE STAY AT
HOME ORDERS HAD COME DOWN THE
PIPELINE UNDER GOVERNOR NEWSOME
HACTL A SQUARE TO DEAL WITH
CALTRANS TO BE ABLE TO ALLOW
THOSE FAMILIES TO LEASE. THOSE
FAMILIES ARE NOW FACING
EVICTION. AND IT'S ALL BEING
DONE BY THE HACKLER ORGANIZATION
. SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO BE
MINDFUL THAT THESE ENTITIES ARE
STILL AT ODDS WITH COMMUNITY
ORGANIZATIONS. BUT THESE ARE THE
PEOPLE THAT ARE MOST ONLINE THAT
I THINK OF WHEN I THINK OF
EQUITY WORK, TO BE HONEST,
BECAUSE THESE ARE FAMILIES,
THEIR PARENTS, THEIR LOVED ONES
THAT ARE PEOPLE WERE LIVING ON
THE STREETS DURING THE PANDEMIC
AT THE START OF THE PANDEMIC. I
THINK THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT
ARE THAT WE SHOULD BE MOST
RESPONSIVE TO BECAUSE THOSE ARE
THOSE ARE OUR MEMBERS ARE
COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT WE SERVE
AND AT LEAST AT HERE AT SEA SUN,
THE STUDENTS THAT WE SERVE OUR
COME FROM THOSE BACKGROUNDS. UH
UM, I DO WANT TO LEND, UM, BY
GIVING AN EXAMPLE OF, UM THERE'S
AN ARTICLE THAT CAME OUT IN 2023
BY ARI PLOT TO AND LAUDA DÍAS,
AND I REALLY COMMEND THE PRIVATE
PUBLIC PARTNERSHIPS. BUT I THINK
ONE CAUTIONARY TALE. I THINK
THAT HAS COME UP IS THIS PRIVATE
PUBLIC PARTNERSHIPS AND WHAT
HAPPENS WHEN THINGS DON'T GO
ACCORDING TO PLAN AND I THINK WE
SAW THAT IN THE END CAN TO A
CREEK IN SAN JOAQUIN VALLEY. UM
THERE WAS A SET OF E V CHARGING
STATIONS THAT WERE SET UP FOR
FOUR OF THEM, AND THIS HAPPENED
IN NOVEMBER. 2019 WHAT HAPPENS
IS THE ACTING. IT'S CALLED
GREEN, COMMUTER AND CARB
PARTNERED WITH ONE ANOTHER. AND
THAT BASICALLY WHEN THE PANDEMIC
HIT THE DIVESTED FROM THAT CAR
SHARING PROGRAM WHEN COMMUNITY
MEMBERS NEEDED AT THE MOST TO
GET TO THE HOSPITAL, SO I THINK
IT'S SO IMPORTANT FOR US TO BE
VERY CAUTIOUS TO WHAT THESE
PRIVATE PUBLIC PARTNERSHIPS AND
CARB AND GREEN COMMUTER ENDED
UP. UM VULTURE, RISING EACH
OTHER IN THE MEDIA AND BLAMING
ONE ANOTHER BECAUSE THEY SAID,
WELL, YOU HAD A BUSINESS MODEL.
NO, YOU DIDN'T. SO AT THE END OF
THE DAY, THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS
GOT SCREWED OVER AND SO I THINK
IT'S SO IMPORTANT AND THAT IMAGE
I SHOW OF THE KENTUCKY CREEK
RESIDENTS JULIA MENDOZA AND
BLANCA GOMEZ. THEY PUT THEM
THERE INTENTIONALLY BECAUSE I
THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO
UNDERSTAND THAT THIS COMMUNITY
IS 100% LATINO. THEY ARE SQUARED
IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SAN JOAQUIN
VALLEY. AND THERE'S THESE FOUR E
V CHARGING STATIONS THAT NO
ONE'S USING. SO THAT I THINK IS
SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY
IMPORTANT FOR US TO BE MINDFUL
FOR YOU COULD HAVE EVEN CHARGING
STATIONS. BUT IF YOU DON'T HAVE
A CAR TO USE THEM, WHAT'S THE
POINT? UM ESPECIALLY IF YOU
CAN'T EAT OR YOU CAN'T GET TO
THE HOSPITAL OR YOUR IMMEDIATE
AND YOUR BASIC NEEDS AND WE'RE
SEEING ALSO, AT THIS MOMENT WE
ARE FACING ONE OF THE LARGEST UM
, YOU KNOW, INFLATION RATES IN
AMERICAN HISTORY AND FOOD AND
FOOD INSECURITY AND HOUSING
CRISIS. SO I SAY, I REALLY AM
HAPPY THAT YOU'RE HERE AND
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC
TRANSPORTATION BECAUSE I THINK
WE NEED TO BE INCENTIVIZING
PEOPLE TO TAKE PUBLIC WHO ARE
TAKING PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION AND
NOT JUST GIVING OUT TAX
INCENTIVE TO THE RICHEST OR THE
PEOPLE THAT ARE THE MOST
PRIVILEGED IN OUR SOCIETY. THE
FEDERAL 70 FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S
GIVING A $7500 TAX DEDUCTION. I
SAW THAT THE CALIFORNIA UM
CALIFORNIA VEHICLE REBATE
PROGRAM IS GIVING BETWEEN 1000
TO 7500. SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
BIG CHUNKS OF TAX DEDUCTIONS.
BUT IF YOU'RE MAKING $35,000 A
YEAR, THAT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER
, UM SO I SAY THAT WE SHOULD BE
ALSO INVESTING IN BEING MINDFUL
THAT PRIVATE SECTOR BUT
REINVESTING IN THERE IN OUR
LONGSTANDING DIVESTMENT OF
PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, SO THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO
MUCH. AND UM AND APPRECIATE THAT
. YOU KNOW YOU'RE BRINGING IN
THE BIG PICTURE AND WHY WE'RE
ALL DOING THIS WORK IN THE FIRST
PLACE, SO I WANT TO THANK
EVERYONE FOR JOINING US AND FOR
YOUR TESTIMONY AND WOULD LOVE TO
OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS. TURN IT
OVER TO MY COLLEAGUE IF HE WANTS
TO START AND, UM YEAH. THANK YOU
. FANTASTIC PANEL. UH SO I'M
SORRY, AND JUST REALLY QUICKLY
IF, UM IF ALYSSA WANTS TO COME
BACK UP IN CASE THERE'S ANY MORE
QUESTIONS THAT YOU WANT TO CHIME
IN ON. UM AND EVERYONE WHO'S ON
ZOOM CAN CAN CHIME IN AS NEEDED
AS WELL. AND I'LL TRY TO DIRECT
QUESTIONS TO FOLKS, BUT ANYONE
ELSE CAN CHIME IN AS AS THEY
DESIRE. UH FIRST QUESTION OF
MICHAEL. UM VERY INTERESTED IN A
LOT OF THE INNOVATIVE THINGS L A
IS DOING. ONE IS STREETSIDE
CHARGING AND WONDERING IF YOU
COULD TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
EXACTLY HOW THAT WORKS. UM
DOESN'T MEAN CHARGING STATIONS
WOULD BE BUILT IN PROXIMITY TO
STREET LIGHTS. HOW MANY? ZERO
EMISSION VEHICLES CAN BE CHARGED
AT ONE TIME KIND OF SOME OF THE
DETAILS AS YOU'RE LOOKING AT
THAT I WILL DO MY BEST WITH THE
TECHNICAL STUFF. I AM A POLICY
PERSON, AND I HAVE A WONDERFUL
BUNCH OF COLLEAGUES IN OUR
DEPARTMENTS WHO DO THE INSTALLS,
BUT HERE WE GO, UM, FOR OUR
BUREAU OF STREET LIGHTING
CHARGERS, LIKE I MENTIONED THOSE
ARE TAPPING INTO A STREET LIGHT.
THEY ARE ACCESSING THE AVAILABLE
CAPACITY THAT WAS MADE AVAILABLE
BY THE CONVERSION OF THE LAMPS
TO LED S. UM YOU CAN FIT ONE OF
THOSE PER CIRCUIT, SO THAT'S
ROUGHLY 5 TO 10 LIGHTS,
DEPENDING ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD,
AND HOW OLD THE, UH, BASICALLY
HOW OLD IT IS, UM, SO IT'S
LIMITED. THAT MEANS YOU CAN'T
REALLY ON THE STREET LIGHTS PUT
MORE THAN ONE CHARGER SORT OF ON
A BLOCK. YOU KNOW, MAYBE EVERY
THREE OR FOUR BLOCKS, YOU COULD
POTENTIALLY FIT ONE IN THERE'S A
BUNCH OF OTHER FILTERS THAT
MITIGATE WHERE THE THOSE CHARGES
CAN GO AS WELL THAT RELATES TO
CURBSIDE ACCESS. YOU KNOW, 80 A
SPACES, PEAK PEAK HOUR LANES,
THINGS LIKE THAT. SO UM, OUT OF
THE 220,000 STREETLIGHTS THAT
THE CITY HAS DEFINITELY AT A
MAXIMUM, MAYBE 10,000 OR VIABLE
FOR CHARGERS RIGHT TO GIVE YOU A
SENSE, AND IT'S PROBABLY LESS
THAN THAT, UM, ONCE YOU PUT IN
THE OTHER FILTERS, BUT FROM A
ELECTRICITY VANTAGE POINT, IT'S
PROBABLY ABOUT 10. UM WE DO HAVE
OTHER STREETSIDE CHARGES FOR THE
BLUE L. A PROGRAM AND THOSE WE
ARE USUALLY COORDINATING OFF
FIVE PARKING SPACES TOGETHER.
THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF CIVIL
WORK THAT GOES INTO IT, YOU
KNOW, DIGGING UP THE STREET. GET
INTO THE UTILITY, UM, INSTALLING
WHETHER IT'S HARD WIRED DATA OR
CELLULAR DEPENDING ON THE
PROVIDER. UM AND DOING ALL OF
THE OTHER PERMITTING, AND THAT
IS REQUIRED TO DO THOSE SO WE
ACTUALLY HAVE A SORT OF EXAMPLE
OF A REALLY EASY PROGRAM AND A
REALLY HARD PROGRAM, SO THE
STREETLIGHTS IS PHENOMENALLY
EASY WITH ONE CREW WE CAN DO 234
INSTALLS PER DAY. SO ONCE THE
ENGINEERING IS DONE, THEY CAN
JUST GO OUT AND HAMMER THEM OUT.
IT'S REALLY STRAIGHTFORWARD, AND
THAT'S BECAUSE THERE'S NO
PERMITTING AND THERE'S NO CIVIL
WORK. THEY JUST GET STRAPPED
RIGHT ONTO THE CHARGER. VERY
VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD. UH AND
THEN WHEN WE PUT IN OTHER
CHARGES THERE ON THE CURBSIDE
WHEN YOU'RE DIGGING UP THE
SIDEWALK ALL LEVEL OF
COMPLICATIONS. YOU NEVER KNOW
WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO FIND RIGHT?
WE HOPE TO HAVE THE BEST MAP OF
UNDERGROUND UTILITIES THAT ARE,
YOU KNOW, THE MOST ACCURATE ONE,
BUT YOU KNOW, THERE'S OLD STUFF
OUT THERE. YOU STARTED DIGGING
AROUND AND, OH, HERE'S A
PIPELINE FROM 100 YEARS AGO AND
JUST THINGS OF THAT NATURE, SO
THE CURBSIDE WORK IS QUITE
CHALLENGING. UM AND I HAVE HEARD
THIS. I CAN'T CONFIRM THIS, BUT
I'VE HEARD THAT IT'S ABOUT THREE
TIMES MORE EXPENSIVE THAN DOING
THE WORK ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. SO
YEAH. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE
MARKET COME ALONG WITH
SOLUTIONS, AND I DON'T THINK
THAT'S THE END OF THIS
CONVERSATION. THAT'S JUST WHERE
THINGS ARE RIGHT NOW. SO UM,
CURBSIDE IN LOS ANGELES IS WE
ARE WORKING ON A PERMITTING
PROCESS RIGHT NOW, EVERYTHING
THAT WE HAVE CURBSIDE WERE
INVOLVED WITH, SO WE'RE A
PARTNER ON IT, BUT WE WOULD LIKE
TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE IT
AVAILABLE TO OTHERS TO COME IN
TO INSTALL CHARGES WHERE THEY
WANT, IT COULD BE FOR CAR SHARE
PROGRAMS OR OTHER SORT OF PUBLIC
TRANSIT OPPORTUNITIES. UM TNCS
TAXIS. THINGS OF THAT NATURE. UH
AFRAID, YOU KNOW THERE. THERE
ARE A LOT OF SITUATIONS AND
SCENARIOS IN WHICH CURBSIDE
CHARGING MAKES SENSE. SO WE'RE
INVESTIGATING WOULD LIKE TO FIND
MORE OPPORTUNITIES. NO IT'S
REALLY EXCITING TO SEE KIND OF
CAPITALIZING ON EXISTING
INFRASTRUCTURE. UM AS CHARGER
STOCK EXPANDS, CURIOUS IF YOU
COULD SPEAK TO HOW THE CITY IS
THINKING ABOUT UPKEEP AND REPAIR
LONG TERM ARE THEIR OVERLAPPING
MECHANISMS WITH THE STREETLIGHT
UPKEEP AS AN EXAMPLE. UM. YEAH
THE MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION HOW
TO KEEP THE CHARGERS UP AND
RUNNING, OR MANY MULTIPLE
MULTIPLE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
QUESTION UM, SO WE'RE DEFINITELY
FOR THE CHARGES THAT WE RUN AND
MAINTAIN. WE DO EXPERIENCE A
HIGH LEVEL OF, UM, OF THE ISSUES
OF CORD CUTTING AND OTHER STUFF
THAT DOES REQUIRE MAINTENANCE.
SO UM, WHERE WE CAN. WE ARE
TRYING TO KEEP UH, WE'RE TRYING
TO KEEP SPARE PARTS AROUND. BUT
LIKE THE WHOLE INDUSTRY IS
MATURING AND EXPANDING AND
SCALING UP IT. WE IT'S NOT
ALWAYS POSSIBLE TO HAVE
EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED.
SOMETIMES THE SUPPLY CHAIN IS
BRINGING STUFF FROM OVERSEAS
THAT COMPLICATES IT. YOU KNOW,
IT'S GETS ON MANY WEEKS OR
MONTHS OF DELAY. SO THAT'S A
THAT'S A CHALLENGE THAT YOU KNOW
WE'RE WE'RE TRYING TO LEARN AND
IMPROVE. WE'RE VERY HOPEFUL FOR
THE C, E. C AND CARB STANDARDS
AND THE NAVY STANDARDS THAT ARE
COMING INTO EFFECT AROUND UP
TIME AND, YOU KNOW, SORT OF
SOFTWARE REPORTING AND THINGS
LIKE THAT, UM, TO SORT OF
OVERALL LIFT, LIFT THE INDUSTRY
AND, YOU KNOW, HELP US WITH OUR
EQUIPMENT AND HELP THE OTHER
FOLKS INSTALLING CHARGERS AND I
JUST WANT TO THROW OUT THERE. I
KNOW WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT 97%
UPTIME. THAT'S CRAZY. HOW ABOUT
99.9% UP TIME? YOU KNOW 97% OF
TIME WOULD MEAN THE CHARGERS
DOWN FOR EIGHT DAYS OR SOMETHING
LIKE THAT PER YEAR. THAT'S THAT
IS NOT AN ACCEPTABLE SITUATION,
SO NOT NOT. I AM NOT ASKING THE
C E. C MARK IF YOU'RE LISTENING
TO CHANGE YOUR REGULATIONS HERE,
EVERYONE DON'T DON'T FREAK OUT.
BUT UM, JUST I WANT TO THROW
THAT OUT THERE AND IT'S 97%
SEEMS HIGH, BUT IT'S NOT. UM AND
JUST LASTLY, I THINK CHARGER
HELP WAS MENTIONED. I'M GOING TO
MENTION THEM AGAIN BECAUSE THEY
ARE WONDERFUL. L A COMPANY AND,
UM, STORY THIS IS ANOTHER
EXAMPLE. WE NEED THIRD PARTY
SERVICE AND TECHNICIAN. WE NEED
TRAINING FOR THAT. WE NEED TO
GET PEOPLE UP. YOU KNOW THIS IS
A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE
CHARGERS ARE NOT JUST A PIECE OF
ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT. THERE'S A
DATA COMPONENT AND WHEN YOU
MARRY SORT OF FIRMWARE SOFTWARE
UPDATES, ELECTRIC STUFF
ALTOGETHER. THINGS ARE ARE MORE
COMPLICATED, SO WE NEED THAT
SORT OF THIRD PARTY TECHNICIAN
BASED OUT THERE. UM, YEAH. NEXT
COUPLE OF QUESTIONS TO MICHELLE.
BUT IF FEATHERS ON A JUMP IN AND
THAT IS AROUND VERY EXCITING, BY
THE WAY TO HEAR EVERYTHING
YOU'RE DOING, PARTICULARLY
AROUND, UM, JOBS AND JUST, UH
LABOR STANDARDS AND KIND OF
REALLY CREATING OPPORTUNITY AS
WE GO FORWARD. WITH THESE
INNOVATIONS. UM MANY OF THE
FEDERAL INFLATION REDUCTION ACTS
TAX INCENTIVES FOR CLEAN ENERGY
PROJECTS ARE TIED TO HIRE LABOR
STANDARDS. PRESIDENT BIDEN HAS
JOINED OTTO WORKERS ON THE
PICKET LINE AND WANTS MORE UNION
LED TRAINING AND APPRENTICESHIP
PROGRAMS TO MAKE SURE THAT
WORKERS DISPLACED BY THE SHIFT
FROM COMBUSTION ENGINE AND
TRANSMISSION PLANTS TO EVEY AND
BATTERED BATTERY MANUFACTURING
JOBS ARE ACCOUNTED FOR. WHAT CAN
WE DO HERE IN CALIFORNIA AND
KIND OF PERHAPS LOOKING AT WHAT
YOU'RE DOING IN MICHIGAN ON
THESE ISSUES TO ENSURE GOOD
PAYING JOBS ARE PART OF OUR ZERO
EMISSION FUTURE. YES MAYBE JUST
SOME INSIGHT. YOU KNOW, I GUESS
INTO WHAT? I WILL SPEAK FOR
MYSELF IN AREAS THAT WE LOOK AT.
I'LL BE HONEST KIND OF THE
COLLEGE SPACES IS EASIER IN SOME
REGARD RIGHT BECAUSE YOU HAVE A
TARGETED AUDIENCE EASIER TO
REACH OUT TO THEM. UM YOU KNOW,
WE WENT THROUGH A PERIOD OF TIME
AND PROBABLY ALL OF US CAN TAKE
BLAME FOR THAT WERE YOU KNOW WE
WERE TOUTING THAT YOU HAD TO
HAVE A FOUR YEAR DEGREE. AND
THOSE TYPES OF THINGS THAT WAS
PRETTY HOT TOPIC FOR QUITE A
WHILE. UM NOT NECESSARILY TRUE.
THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES AND A LOT
OF SPACES AROUND THE MOBILITY
ENVIRONMENT. BUT REALLY, AS WE
SIT HERE AND TALK ABOUT, YOU
KNOW, THE E V SPACE, THERE'S
LOTS OF OPPORTUNITIES WHERE YOU
DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A FOUR YEAR
DEGREE. UM YOU CAN DO A LOT OF
THESE JOB FUNCTIONS. WITHOUT
THAT. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT
THAT WE SHARE THAT INFORMATION
THAT WILL BE TRANSPARENT IN
THOSE OPPORTUNITIES. AND THEN
ALSO ENGAGED TO EDUCATE RIGHT.
SOME PEOPLE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, AND WE HAVE
TO REALIZE THAT AS WE SIT HERE,
AND WE'RE VESTED IN IT EVERY
DAY, MY CONSTANT THING YOU KNOW,
IN RELATION TO THE PROJECT, BUT
THEN ALSO WITH MY TEAM IS TO SAY
WE HAVE TO STEP BACK AND WE HAVE
TO PUT OURSELVES IN THE PLACES
OF PEOPLE WHO AREN'T DOING THIS
EVERY DAY, AND WE HAVE TO TAKE
THE TIME AND SPEND THE TIME TO
EDUCATE. UM AND THAT'S EDUCATION
AS I TALKED ABOUT IN THE
COMMUNITY AND DIFFERENT AREAS,
BUT ALSO IN THE WORKFORCE SPACE
TO ALLOW THE OPPORTUNITY FOR
THEM TO KNOW WHAT OPPORTUNITIES
THERE ACTUALLY ARE, UM, REACHING
OUT TO FOLKS WHO ARE LOOKING FOR
A JOB CHANGE. RIGHT? AS I
MENTIONED IN MY YOU KNOW, SLIDES
IS THERE'S A LOT OF THOSE PEOPLE
I KNOW. HERE IN MICHIGAN. I
CAN'T SPEAK FOR CALIFORNIA, BUT
I KNOW HERE IN MICHIGAN, THERE'S
A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT
RECONSIDERED. A LOT OF PEOPLE
THAT LOOKED AT MAYBE THE RISK OF
THE JOBS THEY'RE IN. OR JUST
REALIZED THAT THEY LOST INTEREST
IN IT OVER THE COURSE OF TIME,
SO FINDING AND GIVING THE
OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO FIND
THEIR PASSION WE FOUND TO BE
VERY VALUABLE AGAIN TAKES A LOT
OF WORK. IT'S NOT EASY, BUT
CONNECTING WITH THE RIGHT GROUPS
CONTINUING TO SHARE THE MESSAGE,
UM, SPENDING TIME IN OUT,
REJECTED BITI'S TO SHARE THAT IS
SUPER IMPORTANT, SO WE'RE NEVER
GOING TO SOLVE ALL OF THE
CHALLENGES ASSOCIATED TO THE
WORKFORCE. BUT I THINK WE'RE
MAKING GOOD HEADWAY IN THAT, AND
I THINK WE'RE ACTUALLY FROM A
LOT OF FEEDBACK WE GET AS WE'RE
IMPROVING PEOPLE'S QUALITY OF
LIFE, WHICH IS SUPER EXCITING.
UM YOU KNOW, TO GIVE PEOPLE A
CHANGE AND EXPOSURE TO SOMETHING
THAT REALLY IS OF INTEREST TO
THEM, AND NOW THEY HAVE AN
OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT EVERY DAY
ALL DAY LONG. SO I THOSE WOULD
BE MY, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WORDS.
SEDIMENTS OF, YOU KNOW WAYS TO
ACHIEVE THAT. WE STILL HAVE A
LONG WAY TO GO HERE IN MICHIGAN.
BUT WE CONTINUE TO PUSH FOR
THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, AND ALWAYS
HAPPY TO, YOU KNOW, TO SHARE
THOSE STRATEGIES AND OBVIOUSLY
TAKE STRATEGIES BACK THAT OTHER
STATES FIND TO WORK AS WELL.
YEAH I KNOW. IT ALMOST SEEMS
LIKE YOU'RE IN MANY WAYS FRONT
AND CENTER ON THE ISSUE AND IN
TERMS OF WHAT? UM SOME OF THE
ISSUES BEING ADDRESSED AND OR
BROUGHT UP IN TERMS OF STRIKES
THAT ARE GOING ON OR NOT, AND
WHATNOT. SO, UM THERE IS A PIECE
OF ATTRACTING FOLKS, UM, ON
THESE NEW CAREER PATHS, UM,
FOCUSING ON COLLEGES. UM THEY'VE
GOT HIGH SCORES IN THE LAKE. BUT
FOLKS CURRENTLY IN, UM, THE AUTO
INDUSTRY AS AN EXAMPLE, HOW ARE
WE ENSURING THAT OUR WORKFORCE
IS TAKEN CARE OF? AS WE SHIFT TO
AN ELECTRIFIED ECONOMY. WERE
THESE NEW JOBS IN THE SECTOR
HAVE PAY EQUITY LABOR
PROTECTIONS, UM, TO YOU FIRST.
BUT IF OTHERS WANT TO CHIME IN
FROM A MORE CALIFORNIA
STANDPOINT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT
AS WELL. YEAH I GUESS YOU MAY
JUST A COUPLE OF STATEMENTS
THERE AND LET OTHERS WAY AND OF
COURSE, UH, YOU KNOW IS I THINK
WE HAVE TO REALLY BE LOOKING AT
HOW WE REPOSITION THOSE FOLKS
AND GIVE THEM DIFFERENT SETS OF
TOOLS AND TALENTS. YOU KNOW, UM,
WE'RE NOT TRYING TO TAKE JOBS.
YOU KNOW, WE WENT THROUGH THIS
AND WE STILL HONESTLY TACKLE
THIS IN THE AUTONOMOUS SPACE
RIGHT AROUND FREIGHT DELIVERY
TRUCK DRIVERS. IT'S A HOT TOPIC.
UM WE'RE NOT TRYING TO TAKE THE
JOBS AWAY WITH THE TECHNOLOGY
ONE. WE'RE TRYING TO SUPPLEMENT
THE WORKFORCE IN SOME CASES, BUT
IN OTHER CASES, YOU KNOW, WE ARE
TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE
DILIGENT TO SAY WE'RE NOT TAKING
YOUR JOB AWAY FROM YOU WERE
WORKING AND WANT TO WORK WITH
YOU COLLABORATIVELY TO GIVE YOU
THE ENVIRONMENT TO CREATE A NEW
TOOL SET AND MAYBE YOU'RE NOT
INTERESTED IN THAT TOOL SET. SO
LET US HELP YOU FIND A DIFFERENT
TOOL SET. UM AND YOU KNOW AGAIN,
WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO STRESS
THAT WE ARE NOT TAKING JOBS
AWAY. THAT IS NOT THE GOAL OF
ADVANCING TECHNOLOGY. THE GOAL
IS TO DO THINGS YOU KNOW,
SMARTER, FASTER, YOU KNOW, SAFER
AND IN SOME REGARDS, YOU KNOW
THE TECHNOLOGY IS GETTING TO AN
ENVIRONMENT WHERE WE CAN TAKE
SOME OF THE RISK ENVIRONMENTS
ARE WORKFORCES IN AND WE CAN
ACTUALLY HAVE TECHNOLOGY
SOLUTIONS TO REDUCE THAT RISK
AND BETTER THEIR LIVES
THEMSELVES. SO I DON'T THINK
IT'S JUST IN THE E V INDUSTRY.
UM YOU KNOW, I WE SEE IT ACROSS
THE BOARD AND WE SEE IT IN
DIFFERENT AREAS. WE HAVE A LOT
GOING ON HERE IN MICHIGAN RIGHT
NOW, WHICH I'M SURE EVERYBODY IS
AWARE OF, YOU KNOW, AND THINGS
LIKE THAT, AND I THINK THE
MESSAGE YOU KNOW, IS STILL AND
ALWAYS HAS BEEN, AND MAYBE NEEDS
TO BE LOUDER IS THAT WE DON'T
WANT TO TAKE YOUR JOBS OR NOT
PUTTING EVERYBODY OUT OF WORK.
AND WE HAVE TO BE DILIGENT TO
OWN THAT, UM AND GIVE AND MAKE
SURE WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES THAT
HAND TO CREATE THOSE IN EDUCATE
THOSE OTHER SCHOOLS. EXCUSE ME
TOOLS THAT UM FOR THEM TO EXPAND
AND MAYBE REALLY FIND A NEW
PASSION. THEY NEVER KNEW THEY
HAD. YES, DR RUIZ. THANK YOU. I
REALLY LIKE YOUR QUESTION. THE
REASON. WHY IS, UM AND THANK
YOU, MICHELLE AS WELL. UM I WAS
JUST THINKING ABOUT IT. YOU KNOW
, ON THE CONSUMER END, I THINK
ABOUT THE FACT THAT YOU KNOW MY
FATHER AND ALL MY FAMILY WERE
THERE IMMIGRANTS. AND GENERALLY,
IF YOU'RE COMING FROM A POOR,
WORKING CLASS BACKGROUND,
THERE'S ALWAYS THIS KIND OF
SKEPTICISM OF BUYING DIRECTLY
FROM THE MANUFACTURER. AND SO I
LOVE THIS IDEA, LIKE THE THIRD
PARTY BUT ALSO EXPANDING THE
TRAINING, I THINK IS GOING TO BE
CRITICAL NOT JUST FOR PEOPLE
WITH DEGREES, BUT I THINK THE
MOM AND POP SHOPS BECAUSE THAT,
UM GIVES GREATER BUY IN AS WELL
BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE ARE WORKING
WITH, LIKE A MECHANIC THAT'S
FROM THEIR COMMUNITY AND THAT
THEY'VE ESTABLISHED A SENSE OF
TRUST WITH, UM I DON'T THINK
LIKE EVER, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S
NOT TO SAY THAT THIS EVER
HAPPENS. BUT I'M SAYING
GENERALLY WHAT YOU SEE IS THE
SENTIMENT IS THAT IF YOU CAN
WORK WITH SOMEONE, ESPECIALLY
WITH AN AUTOMOTIVE VEHICLE,
WHERE YOU YOU CAN ALWAYS GET
OVERCHARGED FOR SOMETHING YOU
WANT TO GO TO SOMEONE THAT
YOU'RE GOING TO TRUST. AND
USUALLY THAT'S SOMEONE THAT'S
FROM YOUR LOCAL COMMUNITY. AND
SO IT DOES MATTER THAT THAT
TRAINING THAT YOU'RE SAYING
MICHELLE EXPANDS OUTSIDE THE
REACH OF EVEN I KNOW I'D SAY
THIS, BUT EVEN THE PEOPLE THAT
WOULD JUST BACHELOR THEY THINK
WE NEED TO EVEN PEOPLE THAT EVEN
HAVE JUST A HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA
BECAUSE IF THE TECHNICAL TRADE
ALLOWS FOR THAT KNOWLEDGE TO BE
PASSED DOWN, AND IT'S NOT SO
CENTRALIZED INTO THE HANDS OF
THE MANUFACTURER, THEN I THINK
YOU'LL GET MORE BUYING FOR
EVENING. AND THAT IS A MORE
EQUITABLE APPROACH. I THINK
BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST SO CRUNCH
LEE TIGHT INTO THE HANDS OF YOU
KNOW CERTAIN GROUPS OR CERTAIN
MANUFACTURING COMPANIES. YEAH,
WELL PUT. MICHELLE ONE MORE
QUESTIONING YOU AND REALLY WAS
STRUCK BY THE E V READY
COMMUNITY COMMUNITIES TOOL KIT.
WE KNOW THAT SO MANY SMALL
NEIGHBORHOODS AND TOWNS DON'T
ALWAYS HAVE THE CAPACITY FOR E
V. STRATEGIC PLANNING. UM BUT
WITH THIS TOOL KIT, WHICH SEEMS
LIKE SUCH A GREAT IDEA, COULD
YOU SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE
ABOUT ITS DEVELOPMENT? AND IF
YOU'VE HEARD FROM COMMUNITIES
THAT HAVE USED IT. YEAH SO, UM,
YOU KNOW CURRENTLY, LIKE I SAID,
IT'S A TOOLKIT RIGHT AND REALLY
PROVIDES INFORMATION ABOUT
THINGS THEY SHOULD BE THINKING
ABOUT, UM, REALLY THINGS AS
REALLY CAME TO LIFE. WE'VE GOT A
LOT OF FEEDBACK WHEN WE WENT
THROUGH AND POSTED THE REQUEST
FOR PROPOSALS FOR THE NAVY
PROJECTS. UM THAT ARE UNDERWAY
BECAUSE A LOT OF THE FOLKS
WHETHER THEY'RE IN A LOCAL
AGENCY, OR JUST SOMEBODY IN THE
COMMUNITY, WHICH WE HAD QUITE A
BIT QUITE A FEW OF THOSE
RESPONDENTS. THEY DON'T THEY'VE
NEVER BEEN THROUGH THE PROCESS
IS THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.
AND THEN THEY REALLY DON'T KNOW
THE THINGS YOU KNOW THAT THEY
SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT. SO THE
TOOLKIT REALLY ANSWERS THOSE
QUESTIONS. I WILL SAY THAT THE
TOOLKIT NEVER REPLACES
INTERACTION. SO YOU KNOW WE DO
HAVE THROUGH THAT PROCESS, BUT
THEN ALSO THROUGH OUR NORMAL
PROCESSES WHERE WE HAVE
ENGAGEMENT WITH OUR LOCAL
COMMUNITIES. SO YOU KNOW, AS WE
DEVELOPED THROUGH EVEN THE
CONNECTED AUTOMATED SPACE, AND
WE'RE NOW CONTINUING THAT IS THE
PROJECT THE INDUCTIVE PROJECT
YOU SAW SHOWCASED IS THE
OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR LOCAL
COMMUNITIES TO BE INTEGRATED
INTO WHAT WE'RE DOING. SO WE
HAVE THEM WITH US. WE HAVE THEM
LEARNING WITH US, AND WE HAVE
THE OPPORTUNITY WHERE THEY CAN
HANDS ON VERY GOOD. THOSE
EXPERIENCES WE ASKING QUESTIONS
BECAUSE IN SOME CASES WE'RE
LEARNING TO BUT YOU KNOW,
COLLABORATING IN BRINGING THAT
AWARENESS HELPS THEM TO GO BACK
AND READ OVER ONE. THEY CAN
VISUALIZE WHAT WE'RE EVEN
TALKING ABOUT TWO IS START TO
THINK ABOUT. HOW DOES THAT
IMPACT WITHIN THEIR LOCAL AREAS?
NOT ONLY ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE
SIDE, BUT AGAIN ON THE COMMUNITY
SIDE AND THINGS THEY CAN BE
DOING WHETHER YOU KNOW OUTREACH
ACTIVITIES, THINGS LIKE THAT TO
EDUCATE THEIR COMMUNITIES IN
DIFFERENT WAYS, BUT THEN ALSO AS
THEY LOOK FORWARD TO START
INSTALLATION, POTENTIALLY GO
AFTER TO GRANT FUNDING, YOU KNOW
, THEY KNOW AND CAN KIND OF HAVE
THIS TOOLKIT CHECKLIST TYPE
THING TO SAY THESE ARE THE
THINGS SO THEY'RE NOT FORGETTING
A MILLION DOLLAR ITEM OR A
$250,000 ITEM. UM AND MORE
IMPORTANTLY, SO THEY'RE NOT
FORGETTING THAT ONCE YOU GET THE
HARDWARE IN, THE MORE EXPENSIVE,
HARDER PART COMES, WHICH IS
OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE OF
THOSE SYSTEMS, AND THAT IS
GROWING EVEN HARDER WITH THE E V
ENVIRONMENT BECAUSE AS WE YOU
KNOW, I THINK MENTIONED EARLIER
WAS. IT'S GREAT TO PUT ALL THIS
STUFF OUT THERE. BUT IF YOU
DON'T HAVE THE RELIABILITY TO
THE USERS OF THAT THEY'RE NOT
GOING TO BE BELIEVERS AND
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO INVEST IN
THE TECHNOLOGY. SO WE HAVE TO
HAVE WAYS TO ENSURE THAT THE
INSTALLATIONS THAT ARE BEING PUT
IN ARE BEING KEPT UP AND THAT
THEY ARE. YOU KNOW, WE'VE SEEN
SOME RECENT PICTURES OF SOME
DEPLOYMENTS IN OTHER AREAS WHERE
YOU KNOW THEY DIDN'T LOOK AT
SOMEBODY WITH A DISABILITY
TRYING TO ACCESS THOSE CHARGING
STATIONS. THEY DIDN'T LOOK AT.
UM YOU KNOW, THEY POTENTIALLY
EVEN JUST SOMETHING AS MIRRORS A
TRIP HAZARD RIGHT WITH A CORD,
YOU KNOW, STROLLED OUT ACROSS UM
, A WALKWAY AND THINGS LIKE THAT
. WHERE? YOU KNOW THESE ARE
THINGS THAT WE WANT TO BRING
FORWARD. SO THAT IS THEIR DESIGN
, PLANNING AND DESIGNING AND
THINGS LIKE THAT. THEY'RE TAKING
ALL OF THESE INTO ACCOUNT.
THANKS MIL. ONE QUESTION FOR YOU
. UM WE KNOW THAT A LOT OF THE
CONVERSATION AT THE STATE LEVEL
HAS FOCUSED ON INVESTOR ON
UTILITIES. UM, YOU'RE COMING
MORE FROM THEM. UNI UM
STANDPOINT. UM COULD YOU SHARE
ANY UNIQUE PERSPECTIVES FROM
THAT STANDPOINT IN TERMS OF THE
PATH TOWARD ELECTRIFICATION? IS
THERE ANYTHING THE STATE COULD
BE DOING TO FURTHER SUPPORT
MUNICIPAL? YOU TELL UTILITIES IN
THOSE EFFORTS. SURE THANK YOU
FOR THAT QUESTION. I THINK THAT
THE PARTNERSHIPS WE HAVE WITH
THE STATE ARE GOING TO BE VITAL
TO UH, PUSHING OUT
ELECTRIFICATION STATEWIDE AND,
MORE IMPORTANTLY FOR US IN LOS
ANGELES. AND ONE OF THE KEY
AREAS THAT WE CONSTANTLY GET
FEEDBACK ON IS THE AVAILABILITY
OF UTILITY INFRASTRUCTURE WHERE
PEOPLE NEEDED TO DEPLOY CHARGING
PLAZAS OR WHERE THEY WANT TO
ELECTRIFIED, AND I THINK THAT'S
GOING TO BE A KEY POINT OF
SUPPORT THAT WE CAN GET FROM THE
STATE IN ORDER TO HELP
ACCELERATE THAT DEPLOYMENT.
ADDITIONALLY THE NEW
TECHNOLOGIES THAT ARE GOING TO
BE MADE AVAILABLE THAT ALSO
REDUCE THE CAPACITY DEMAND FROM
THESE VARIOUS ELECTRIFICATION
PROJECTS. IS GOING TO BE
CRITICAL AND SO LOOKING AT
MANAGED CHARGING POLICIES FOR
VARIOUS COMPANIES TO COME IN AND
USE THIS TECHNOLOGY TO REDUCE
WHAT THEY NEED FROM THE UTILITY,
THEREFORE, ACCELERATING THE
PROCESS OF GETTING THOSE
PROJECTS, ELECTRICITY AND IN
SERVICE AND READY FOR THE
CITIZENS AND THE RATEPAYERS. UM
AND ALSO LOOKING AT THE NEW
TECHNOLOGIES THAT ARE NOW REALLY
BECOMING. PART OF THE
ELECTRIFICATION LIKE THE VEHICLE
TO GRID TECHNOLOGY THAT'S GOING
TO BE CRITICAL DOWN THE ROAD.
HOW THAT BECOMES INCENTIVIZED.
HOW THAT HOW PEOPLE CAN NOW
MONETIZE THEIR LARGE BATTERIES
THAT ARE MOVING ACROSS THE CITY
IN ORDER TO PROVIDE TO PROVIDE
SUPPORT FOR THE LOCAL GRID IS
GOING TO BE CRITICAL, AND SO IN
ADDITION TO ALL THAT, UM, YOU
KNOW, AS MICHAEL WAS MENTIONING
GETTING THIS INFRASTRUCTURE IN
PLACE REQUIRES COLLABORATION
ACROSS AGENCIES, WHETHER IT'S AT
THE COUNTY LEVEL OR EVEN JUST
WITHIN OUR OWN MUNICIPALITY AT
THE AT THE LOCAL LEVEL, AND SO,
UM, INCREASING THAT
COLLABORATION, UM, MAKING THAT.
AND NECESSITY IN ORDER TO
ACCELERATE ELECTRIFICATION IS
GOING TO BE IMPORTANT AND FROM
WHETHER IT'S FROM THE STATE
LEVEL OR THE LOCAL LEVEL IT
SPANS. IT'S GOING TO BENEFIT US
ALL, AND IT'S CRITICAL TO
GETTING THESE PROJECTS ONLINE
QUICKER. APPRECIATE IT. DOCTOR
OH, YES. SORRY I JUST SORRY MEAL
I'M GONNA THIS IS A PROBLEM THAT
I ALWAYS HAVE. WHEN I'M WORKING
WITH A MEAL AND HIS COLLEAGUES
THAT WE RUN INTO, WHICH IS, UM
THE INVESTOR OWNED UTILITIES ARE
ABLE TO RATE BASE ALL OF THEIR
ELECTRIFICATION COSTS SO GREAT
WE'RE GONNA PUT ALL THIS MONEY
INTO ELECTRIFICATION. COOL YOU
END USERS ARE GOING TO PAY FOR
THAT RIGHT, AND THEY GET TO PUT
THAT INTO THE RATES. A MEAL AND
DWP SMUD. THEY CAN'T DO THAT.
THEY THAT'S NOT ALLOWED BY BY
THE WAY THAT THE RULES WORK, AND
SO IT BECOMES VERY CHALLENGING.
WHEN THEY'RE PLANNING. THEY KNOW
WHERE IT'S COMING. THEY HAVE A
SENSE OF WHERE YOU KNOW A BUNCH
OF CHARGES ARE GOING TO HAVE TO
GO, RIGHT. OH, THERE'S AN AMAZON
DELIVERY WAREHOUSE HERE. OH,
THERE'S A YOU KNOW, ATHENS OR
WASTE MANAGEMENT, YOU KNOW,
TRUCK CALLING YARD HERE OR
WHATEVER IT IS THESE FLEETS THAT
ARE GOING TO NEED MEGAWATTS AND
MEGAWATTS OF POWER. THE UTILITY
IS NOT ALLOWED TO GO OUT THERE
AND PROACTIVELY UPGRADE THAT
SERVICE UNTIL YOU KNOW THERE'S
TECHNICAL DETAILS HERE THAT THAT
I'M NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO
EXPLAIN, BUT THEY BASICALLY
CAN'T GO OUT AND DO A BUNCH OF
UPGRADES BECAUSE NO ONE YET HAS
ASKED FOR THE SERVICE. SO WE
HAVE THIS CHICKEN AND EGG
PROBLEM WHERE WE KNOW THE DEMAND
IS COMING, BUT THEY'RE NOT
ALLOWED TO GO OUT THERE AND PRE
DO THE WORK. SO I THINK THE
STATE COULD LOOK INTO THAT TO
SEE MAYBE IT'S THE EC. MAYBE
SOMETHING WHERE THERE MIGHT BE A
LITTLE BIT OF HELP THERE. SORRY,
JUST HAD COULDN'T LOSE THAT
MOMENT. I'LL JUST ADD THAT AS
WELL, UM, THAT WE DID HEAR THAT
DURING OUR ENERGY STATION
ROUNDTABLE THAT SUPPORT FOR THE
MUNICIPAL ON UTILITIES AND
COMMUNITY CHOICE. AGGREGATES ARE
ALSO GOING TO BE IMPORTANT. WE
ALSO DO HAVE A SAN JOAQUIN
REGIONAL OFFICE. AND WHILE THERE
IS SOME FEDERAL FUNDING
AVAILABLE FOR UTILITIES, THE
PERSPECTIVE THAT WE HAVE BEEN
HEARING IN SOME OF THESE AREAS
IS THAT IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT
FOR SOME OF THEM ARE RURAL AREAS
OR FOR THE SAN JOAQUIN VALLEY TO
COMPETE AGAINST THE CITY'S FOR
THAT FEDERAL FUNDING. SO WITHOUT
THERE BEING SOME SORT OF
SUPPLEMENTAL BE CHALLENGING FOR
THE STATE AS A WHOLE TO BENEFIT
FROM THE, UM THE FUNDING
AVAILABLE AT THE STATE LEVEL,
WHICH IS OFTEN CAPPED FOR
CALIFORNIA. DOCTOR IS FINAL
QUESTION FOR YOU FOR THE MOMENT
AND TAKING A BROAD. YEAH UM, I
WAS REALLY STRUCK BY YOUR
EARLIER TESTIMONY THAT WITH THE
BENEFIT OF HINDSIGHT, WE KNOW
THAT A LOT OF THE TRANSPORTATION
DECISIONS THAT WERE MADE IN THE
FIFTIES SIXTIES AROUND HIGHWAY
CONSTRUCTION IN LA AND
ELSEWHERE. WE NOW KNOW HAVE HAD,
UM, DISPROPORTIONATE, EVEN
CATASTROPHIC IMPACTS ON
COMMUNITIES IN TERMS OF EQUITY
AND OTHER MEASURES. AND THERE'S
CONTINUED TO THIS DAY. SO AS WE
EMBARK ON THIS NEW FUTURE. UM
PUTTING OUR FUTURE HATS ON 50
YEARS FROM NOW, WITH THE BENEFIT
OF HINDSIGHT. YOU STARTED TO
TOUCH ON THIS, BUT WHAT DO YOU
SEE AS SOME OF THE PITFALLS THAT
THAT, UM ARE EMERGING OR SOME OF
THE CHALLENGES. THAT COULD HAVE
SIMILAR CONSEQUENCES IF NOT
ADDRESSED FOR UNDERSERVED
COMMUNITIES. YEAH I THINK ONE OF
THE THINGS THAT WHEN I THINK OF
THAT SAN JOAQUIN STATION, I
ALWAYS WONDER IF WE WOULD REREAD
THAT AND AS POTENTIALLY. IN FIVE
YEARS. AND IT'S ACTUALLY JUST A
PIT STOP. FOR PEOPLE GETTING
FROM SAN FRANCISCO DOWN TO L. A.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE CONCERNS I
HAVE IS IF WE START PUTTING
THESE TV STATIONS IN COMMUNITIES
OF COLOR ARE THEY JUST STOP
STATIONS TO SERVICE PEOPLE THAT
ARE GETTING FROM SAN FRANCISCO
TO SAN DIEGO. UM AND I DON'T
KNOW IF THE DATA REALLY ACCOUNTS
FOR THAT IF WE DON'T KNOW WHO IS
USING THE E V CHARGING STATIONS,
UM AND THAT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH
SOME OF THE DATA IS COMING FROM
THE CITY. AND SOME OF THE DATA
IS NOT DESEGREGATED. I MEAN, THE
DATA DOESN'T SHOW US WHO IS
ACTUALLY USING IT. ARE THEY
COMING FROM THE COMMUNITIES THAT
WE SEE ARE, UM WHAT? IN IN
ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE, WE HAVE A
TERM CALLED FRONTLINE
COMMUNITIES. THOSE ARE THE
COMMUNITIES THAT ARE MOST
IMPACTED BY CLIMATE CHANGE.
UNTIL THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE
IN THE FRONT LINES OF WILD FIRES
DISASTERS. WE'VE SEEN THAT THE
ESCALATION OF CLIMATE CHANGE IS
GETTING WORSE AND WORSE, BUT I
WOULD SAY ONE OF THE PITFALLS IS
, UM, NOT OVER, CELEBRATING. TOO
MUCH BECAUSE AND I ALWAYS FEEL
LIKE THE DEBBIE DOWNER. UM, BUT
SOMEONE'S GOING TO DO IT. UM BUT
I DO THINK THAT, UH, IT'S I
WOULD SAY SOME OF THE PITFALLS
IS, UM, IS WHEN WE LACK AN
INTEREST AND ACTUALLY SPEAKING
TO THE COMMUNITY AND CHECKING IN
WITH THEM, AND THAT'S SO
CRITICAL. I THINK AS A COMMUNITY
ORGANIZER, I'M NOT JUST A
PROFESSOR ALSO WORK WITH THE
COMMUNITY AS WELL. AND I'M A
CLIMATE JUSTICE ACTIVISTS. AND
SO I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS YOU
THINGS IS THE COMMUNITY ALWAYS
IS SAYING, WELL, WE HEAR THE
CELEBRATION ON ONE END. LIKE AND
THEN THE OTHER END. WE GET
HIDDEN IN THE BACKGROUND, AND
THAT'S NOT USEFUL BECAUSE FROM
AN EQUITABLE APPROACH, IT SHOULD
BE ABOUT THE DELIVERER. BALS,
WHAT IS ACTUALLY COMING OUT OF
THIS? AND SO IF WE KIND OF OVER
CELEBRATE, I THINK WE HIDE
THINGS VERY EASILY. UM THE
SECOND THING I WOULD JUST SAY A
MAJOR CHALLENGE IN PITFALL IS,
UM IS I THINK THAT WE'VE OVER
RELIED, I THINK ON INCENTIVE
IZATION THROUGH THESE PROGRAMS
THROUGH TAX DEDUCTIONS. AND I
THINK THAT THERE COULD BE A WAY
OF STILL DOING E V BUT ALSO
BEING ABLE TO MEET PEOPLE WHERE
THEY'RE AT, WHICH IS THE WORK OF
EQUITY SCENE WHERE PEOPLE ARE
ARE AT RIGHT NOW. AND I THINK
THAT MEANS THAT, UM MAYBE THE
STATE DEVELOPING SOME TYPE OF
INCENTIVE PROGRAM FOR THOSE THAT
ARE TAKING MORE PUBLIC
TRANSPORTATION BECAUSE THOSE ARE
ACTUALLY THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON
IN FRONTLINE COMMUNITIES.
THEY'RE TAKING THE BUS TO GET
FROM POINT A AND ONE SUCCESSFUL
PROGRAM THAT HAS COME OUT MOST
RECENTLY, UM IS THE DOLLAR
PROGRAM AND THERE'S A NEW
PROGRAM THE CITY HAS CREATED IN
CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS. I WISH
I'D BE EXPANDED ITS CALLED MICRO
METRO. AND IT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO
USE AN APP AND IT MEETS THEM AT
A LOCAL DISTRICT AND TAKE SOME
TO A CLOSER PLACE. BUT THAT
THING IS BEING USED WIDELY
IMPORTANT COMMUNITIES,
COMMUNITIES OF COLOR, AND I
THINK THAT THAT TYPE OF MODEL OF
PROGRAM IF WE WERE TO EXPAND
INTO U V, I THINK COULD BE
REALLY USEFUL. I JUST FEEL LIKE
WE JUST HAVE TO HAVE, UM GREATER
COMMUNICATION, OUTREACH AND
MEETING ALSO PEOPLE IN DIFFERENT
LANGUAGE BARRIERS. WE'RE A VERY
DIVERSE UH UM POPULATION IN
CALIFORNIA. UM AND SO THINGS
NEED TO BE IN MULTIPLE
LANGUAGES, AS WELL AS THOSE KIND
OF THINGS THAT I WOULD SEE NOT
AS PITFALLS, BUT THINGS THAT WE
HAVE TO DO. THANK YOU, UM. SO TO
KIND OF FOLLOW UP ON THAT IDEA.
WHAT IS? HOW ARE I KNOW. I KNOW
YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT IN
MICHIGAN, MICHELLE ABOUT THE
COMMUNITY OUTREACH THAT YOU ALL
ARE DOING, AND I WONDER IF YOU
CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT
HOW THAT WORKS. AND ALSO,
PANELISTS HERE CAN TALK ABOUT
HOW IS THAT INTERACTION
HAPPENING WITH THE COMMUNITY AND
ACTUALLY ENGAGING, UM, AND
HEARING FROM THE COMMUNITY ON
THEIR NEEDS? YES, SIR. A COUPLE
EXAMPLES IS THAT ONE WE HOLD A
PROJECT PUBLIC MEETINGS. SO UM,
YOU KNOW THEY COULD COME IN AND
NOR JUST LIKE A NORMAL ROAD
PROJECT PUBLIC MEETING. WE
TALKED ABOUT WHAT THE ROAD
RECONSTRUCTION WAS GOING TO BE
DONE. BUT THEN WE HAD AREAS THAT
LOOKED AT THE INDUCTIVE CHARGING
SO IN THE SOME OF THE IMAGES ON
THE SIDES, I THINK THERE'S SOME
HUMAN INTERACTION THERE. WE HAD
THE ACTUAL ELECTRON HAD GIVEN US
SOME COILS TO USE. AND THEN ALSO
A RECEIVER. SO WE TOOK THOSE TO
THE PUBLIC MEETING WILL BULKY,
BUT WE TOOK HIM AND THEY WERE A
HIT. WE HAD TONS OF COMMENTS
THAT YOU KNOW THE COMMUNITY
REALLY ENJOYED BEING ABLE TO
TOUCH AND FEEL PER SE OF WHAT
THOSE WERE AND GET INSIGHT INTO
EXACTLY WHAT IT IS. THAT'S BEING
PUT UNDER THE GROUND BECAUSE
ONCE IT'S INSTALLED, THEY CAN'T
EVEN SEE IT RIGHT, SO REALLY
LETTING THEM THE ALLOWING THEM
THE OPPORTUNITY. ENGAGING WITH
THEM FOR QUESTIONS OF CONCERNS.
I GET A LOT OF QUESTIONS,
BELIEVE IT OR NOT OF THINGS,
SOMETHING YOU KNOW CAN IF I WALK
MY DOG IS, YOU KNOW WE'RE GOING
TO STAND MY DOG'S HAIR ON EDGE.
UM YOU KNOW, AT FIRST I WAS
LIKE, OH, MY GOSH. AND THEN I
STOOD BACK AND I SAID, WELL,
JEEZ, YOU KNOW, THESE PEOPLE
DON'T DON'T KNOW. DON'T EVEN
KNOW WHAT IT IS WE'RE DOING SO
OF COURSE THEY'RE CONCERNED. SO
I THINK REALLY UNDERSTANDING
LISTENING TO THEM. I'M NOT
DISMISSING. YOU KNOW THEIR
CONCERNS OF THEIR CHILDREN OR
THEIR DOGS OR THEMSELVES, AND
THEN YOU KNOW HOW IS THAT RELATE
TO FINDING I SHOULD SAY, FINDING
WAYS TO RELATE TO THEM THIS
TECHNOLOGY COMPARATIVELY TO
SOMETHING THAT THEY USE ALREADY,
YOU KNOW, A LOT OF IT IS, YOU
KNOW, LIKE A WIRELESS PHONE
CHARGING DEVICE THAT A LOT OF
PEOPLE HAVE NEXT TO THEIR BEDS
NOW. INSTEAD OF PLUGGING THEIR
PHONES IN NOT EXACTLY THE SAME,
BUT PRETTY CLOSE, WHERE YOU CAN
AT LEAST GET THEM IN AN
UNDERSTANDING TO CONNECT TO
SOMETHING THAT THEY ALREADY KNOW
IMPOSSIBLY USED TODAY, SO WE DO
THAT WE ALSO GO TO A LOT OF THE
GROUPS WHERE WE'RE PUTTING A LOT
OF PLACES WE'RE PUTTING THIS IN
ACTUALLY ALREADY HAVE, UM
NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS THAT MEET IN
DIFFERENT AREAS. SO WE ACTUALLY
GO TO THEIR MEETINGS WE GET, YOU
KNOW, 10 15 MINUTES ON THEIR
AGENDA. DO NOT START TALKING IN
A BUNCH OF TECHNICAL WORDS AND
ALL OF THAT, UM, REALLY GO THERE
, SHARE WITH THEM, COMMUNICATE
WITH THEM AND INTRODUCE
OURSELVES SO THAT THEY CAN PLACE
A FACE WITH WHO'S DOING WHAT?
AND GIVE THEM THE COMFORT ZONE
AND CREATE THAT ENVIRONMENT FOR
THEM TO BE ASKING THOSE
QUESTIONS. UM YOU KNOW, I'VE
GONE OUT AND MET PEOPLE AND HEAD
COFFEE, YOU KNOW, STUDYING IN
WALKING IN, YOU KNOW, JUST
SHARING AT THE PROJECT LEVEL.
YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE
DOING. SO REALLY, IT'S ABOUT
JUST OPENING YOUR EARS, FOCUSING
ON THE CONCERNS OF THE
COMMUNITIES, EDUCATING THEM AND
JUST REALLY, TRULY BELIEVING IN
YOUR HEART. THE REASONS THAT
YOU'RE DOING IT AND BRING THE
PASSION INTO THAT SO THAT THEY
FEEL THEY WANT TO BE PART OF IT.
NOT EVERYBODY IS NOT EVERYBODY'S
GOING TO ALWAYS BE SUPPORTIVE OF
IT. BUT IF WE FIND THE PROPER
WAYS TO ENGAGE WITH THEM, AND
WE'RE LISTENING TO THEM, THEY'RE
MUCH MORE RECEPTIVE TO HEAR WHAT
WE'RE SAYING, UM, AND THEN THE
OTHER PIECE TO THIS IS YOU KNOW
WHERE WORK WE DID. WE CREATED A
VIDEO. UM, HAS JUST LITERALLY
HOT OFF THE PRESS OR A COUPLE OF
WEEKS. IT IS AN ANIMATED VIDEO,
BUT REALLY, YOU KNOW, PUTS INTO
PERSPECTIVE FROM A VERY
SIMPLISTIC TERMS. HOW THIS
CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE
ROAD IS GOING TO WORK. AND THEN
AGAIN, KEEP THE TECHNICAL STUFF
OUT OF IT. THE PEOPLE THEY DON'T
CARE, UM YOU KNOW, AND REALLY
SO, SO THAT'S BEEN POPULAR. WE
HAVE A WEBSITE WHERE PEOPLE CAN
GO. WE'RE CREATING AN F A Q
DOCUMENT. WHERE YOU KNOW IT
ANSWERS ALL THESE QUESTIONS THAT
WE'RE GETTING. THEY CAN HAVE IT
AS A RESOURCE TO UNDERSTAND THE
ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS AND THE
LAST THING I'LL LEAVE YOU WITH
FOR THAT IS FINDING CREDIBLE
SOURCES. RIGHT SO IF WE TELL
SOMEBODY, IT DOESN'T AFFECT YOUR
YOUR PACEMAKER. ARE THEY GONNA
BELIEVE ME? I'M PUTTING IN THE
SYSTEM RIGHT AND I WANT THE
SYSTEM AND I'M PROMOTING IT, AND
I THINK IT'S A GREAT THING. SO
I'M EITHER TRUSTED SOURCE THAT
THEY YOU KNOW, ARE GOING TO
INVEST IN BELIEVING MAYBE, BUT
MAYBE NOT. SO IF WE CAN GET
CREDIBILITY TO THE STATEMENTS
THAT WE'RE MAKING IN RELATION TO
THE SAFETY OF THE SYSTEMS AND
THINGS LIKE THAT THE PEOPLE ARE
WILLING TO LISTEN. SO WE'VE HAD
GREAT SUCCESS DOING THAT. WE'VE
GOTTEN GREAT FEEDBACK FROM OUR
COMMUNITIES THAT THEY FEEL THAT
THEY'RE BEING LISTENED TO AND
THEY FEEL THEY'RE BEING PART.
BUT WE'RE INVESTING IN THOSE
OPPORTUNITIES AND TAKING THEM
VERY SERIOUSLY. OTHERS? YEAH. SO
THE DEPARTMENT LOS ANGELES
DEPARTMENT OF WATER AND POWER IS
VERY MUCH INGRAINED WITH THE
COMMUNITIES. UM AND ALSO IN THIS
IDEA OF, UM THE EQUITABLE
TRANSITION TO A CLEAN, CLEANER
ENVIRONMENT. AND SO YOU KNOW, WE
PUT TOGETHER OVER SEVERAL YEARS
WITH THE HELP OF VARIOUS, UM
FEDERAL ORGANIZATIONS, RESEARCH
LABS, ACADEMIA AND COMMUNITY
BASED ORGANIZATIONS. WE'VE COME
UP WITH SEVERAL OPTIONS AND HOW
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH
THIS, UH, WITH OUR PLAN TO BE
CARBON FREE AND PART OF THAT IS
HOW DO WE DO IT EQUITABLY AND
GETTING FEEDBACK FROM THE
VARIOUS COMMUNITY BASED
ORGANIZATIONS WAS KEY. AND AS IT
APPLIES TO ELECTRIC VEHICLES AND
ELECTRIFICATION, KNOWING THAT
SUCH A BIG PART OF THAT OVERALL
STRATEGY TO A CLEANER
ENVIRONMENT HOW DO WE. DIRECTLY
IMPACT THOSE AREAS. THOSE
COMMUNITIES THAT MAY NOT HAVE
ACCESS TO THIS AND A LOT OF A
LOT OF WHAT WE DO COMES FROM
THAT. THE GRASSROOTS. THOSE
GRASSROOTS DISCUSSIONS THAT
WE'VE HAD UM AND ONE KEY EXAMPLE
OF THAT IS WE'VE INCREASED OUR
REBATE PROGRAM. UH, FOR THOSE
CUSTOMERS THAT ARE ON OUR, UM
OUR LOW INCOME. OUR LOW INCOME
HOUSEHOLDS BY ABOUT 60% TO HELP
THEM AFFORD ELECTRIC VEHICLES
AND FROM AN EDUCATIONAL
PERSPECTIVE, UM, WE ALSO TAKING
A LOT OF THAT FEEDBACK IN, UM.
CHANGING A REBATE PROGRAMS TO
MEET THE NEEDS AND THE GAPS THAT
WERE THAT WERE IDENTIFIED BY
THESE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS
AND THESE DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES
SUCH AS MANY OF THE HOUSES IN
THE CITY OF LOS ANGELES ARE 100
100, PLUS YEARS OLD, UM SOME OF
THEM DON'T AREN'T ELECTRIC
VEHICLE READY? SO HOW DO WE
SUPPORT THOSE FAMILIES THAT WANT
TO BUY A TV AND WANT TO CHARGE
AT HOME AND SO LOOKING AT
DIFFERENT REBATES TO ALLOW PANEL
UPGRADES AND THINGS LIKE THAT
ARE ITEMS THAT WE ARE GOING TO
BE LOOKING INTO AN IMPLEMENTING
NEAR TERM TO HELP ACCELERATE
THAT, SO UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE
COMMUNITY IS SEEING BEING
INGRAINED AND ALSO EDUCATION. WE
CONSTANTLY ARE PART OF THE
DIFFERENT COMMUNITY EVENTS. UM
AND YOU KNOW AS A DIFFERENT
THEMES THROUGHOUT THE YEAR
CONTINUE TO I'LL PLAY THEMSELVES
OUT. THE DIFFERENT COMMUNITY
EVENTS ARE GREAT FORUMS WHERE
PEOPLE GATHER AND WE CAN SHARE
INFORMATION. THE L. A AUTO SHOW
IS GOING TO BE COMING UP ANOTHER
BIG OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO
EDUCATE AND PRESENT INFORMATION.
NON TECHNICAL, YOU KNOW, VERY
STRAIGHTFORWARD ON WHERE THE
WORLD IS IN TERMS OF ELECTRIC
VEHICLES AND HOW YOU CAN BENEFIT
FROM IT, SO YEAH. ALSO NOTE THAT
AS UM, THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM
MICHIGAN NOTED, THE EXPERIENCE
IS REALLY IMPORTANT. WE'VE HAD
GREAT SUCCESS WITH THE MEDIUM
AND HEAVY DUTY SIDE HAVING RIGHT
AND DRIVES WHERE YOU DON'T JUST
SEE THE VEHICLE, BUT YOU CAN
ALSO HEAR OR RATHER NOT HEAR HOW
LOUD IT IS. THE OFF ROAD
EQUIPMENT AS WELL. WE ALSO HAD
THIS YEAR, UM, PARTICIPATED AND
HELPED WITH THE INVESTOR IN
UTILITIES RUN A TRIBAL
ENGAGEMENT SUMMIT WHERE WE ALSO
HAD PIECES OF EQUIPMENT AND
VEHICLES THERE, YOU CAN ACTUALLY
INTERACT WITH SO IT'S ONE THING
TO JUST HEAR ABOUT THEM, BUT
BEING ACTUALLY ABLE TO TEST
DRIVE THESE VEHICLES, I THINK IS
AN IMPORTANT PART TO HELPING
OPERATORS SO NOT JUST THOSE THAT
MIGHT ONLY INFRASTRUCTURE BUT
THOSE THAT MAY ALSO OPERATE THE
VEHICLES TO GET ACCUSTOMED TO
HOW IT MIGHT BE. THERE'S LESS
VIBRATION FOR THESE MEDIUM HEAVY
DUTY VEHICLES. YOU DON'T HAVE
THE DIRECT POLLUTION FROM
OPERATING THEM. AND THEN, UM,
MANY OF THESE IN INDEPENDENT
OWNER OPERATORS ARE GOING TO
COME FROM, UH, DIVERSE
BACKGROUNDS, DIFFERENT
LANGUAGES. AND THEY MAY NOT EVEN
OWN THEIR VEHICLES. SO WHAT DOES
IT LOOK LIKE? FOR THEM TO
TRANSITION IS SOMETHING THAT
WE'RE ALSO STILL LEARNING. UM
AND ALSO MAKING SURE THAT THE
BENEFITS ARE ACTUALLY SEEN AS
BEING BENEFICIAL TO THE
COMMUNITY. GROWING UP IN THE
DESERT. I WAS REALLY INTERESTED
TO SEE ALL OF THE SOLAR PANELS
BEING BROUGHT OUT. BUT WHEN A
BIKE LANE WAS INSTALLED NEXT TO
A SOLAR PANEL IN THE MIDDLE OF
NOWHERE, I WAS VERY INTERESTED
TO SEE HOW THAT ENGAGEMENT WITH
THE COMMUNITY MIGHT HAVE BEEN.
SO I THINK THE QUESTIONS THAT WE
ASK IN SOME OF THESE PROGRAMS AS
WELL THE COMPETITIVE PROGRAMS
HOW HAS IT BEEN INTO FIT? HOW
WAS IT BENEFITING TO THE
COMMUNITY? AND HOW DO YOU KNOW
THAT THE COMMUNITY SEES IT AS
BENEFICIAL. IT'S ALSO AN
IMPORTANT ASPECT. ABSOLUTELY UM,
I THINK THAT LAST ONE IS A
REALLY IMPORTANT QUESTION. UM
ONE OF THE THINGS, MICHAEL, THAT
I, UH. WE HAVE BEEN HEARING FROM
AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN
SPEAK TO THIS OR NOT. SO I'LL
LEAVE THAT UP TO YOU, BUT, UM
FROM CHARGING COMPANIES, CHARGER
COMPANIES IS THE CHALLENGES
AROUND PERMITTING AND DELAYS AND
GETTING CHARGERS INSTALLED. UM
AND I WONDER, YOU KNOW IF YOU'RE
LOOKING AT THAT, AT THE CITY
LEVEL ARE THEIR EFFORTS TO TRY
AND FIGURE THAT OUT OR UPSCALE
BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE RIGHT NOW.
IT'S LESS THAN IT WILL BE IN THE
FUTURE. IT'S JUST GOING TO BE
MORE AND MORE DEMAND. AND SO HOW
ARE WE GOING TO KIND OF KEEP UP
WITH THAT AND ADDRESS THAT? I
YES. PERMIT STREAMLINING THE
FOREVER PROBLEM. UM. BUREAUCRACY
IS REAL. UH WE DON'T HAVE ALL OF
OUR SYSTEMS ONLINE YET, AND I
THINK THERE IS A THERE'S A PLAN
FOR SOMETHING CALLED BILL DE LA
WHERE ALL OF OUR DEVELOPMENT
SERVICES WILL EVENTUALLY THERE.
THERE WILL BE AN INTEGRATED
PLATFORM BASICALLY ONLINE. SO
TODAY. IF YOU'RE A DEVELOPER,
YOU LITERALLY NEED TO GET AN
EXPEDITER BECAUSE THEY'RE THE
ONE WHO UNDERSTANDS FIRST.
YOU'RE GOING TO GO TO THIS
BUILDING. THEN YOU'RE GOING TO
GO TO THAT COUNTER. THEN YOU'RE
GOING TO TALK TO THIS PERSON AND
YOU'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO THE
OTHER PERSON AFTER YOU GOT THE
FIRST THING CHECKED, SO THAT
THAT'S REAL. THAT'S A
COMPLICATION. AND, UM I DO. TRY
TO, UH, REMIND MY COLLEAGUES AND
IN OUR CITY DEPARTMENTS WHO WORK
ON THIS STUFF THAT THEY HAVE THE
REGULAR DEVELOPER OF THE HUMAN
COMING IN OFF THE STREET DOESN'T
CARE IF YOU'RE IN DBS. THEY
DON'T CARE IF YOUR DWP THEY
DON'T CARE IF YOU'RE THE BUREAU
OF ENGINEERING, YOU'RE THE CITY
OF L A PERIOD. SO YOU KNOW NOT
NOT TO SORT OF TAKE A NOTE FROM
THE PRIVATE SECTOR, BUT WE NEED
TO BE MORE CUSTOMER ORIENTED, A
LITTLE BIT MORE CUSTOMER FACING
AND WE HAVE DONE A LOT. SO UM,
YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO CREDIT A
MEAL HERE WHO'S DONE A
TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OVER A DWP ON
THEIR PIECE OF THE PUZZLE. UM
YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT THERE
IS A DEDICATED EVIE GROUP SO
THAT WHEN YOU START DOING YOUR
ELECTRIFICATION PLANNING, YOU'RE
DEALING WITH PEOPLE WHOSE BREAD
AND BUTTER ALL DAY LONG IS
VEHICLE ELECTRIFICATION. DO THEY
DO BUILDING ELECTRIFICATION
ALSO. YES OKAY, SO IT'S ALL
ELECTRIFICATION. BUT ANYWAY,
THEY'RE FOCUSED. THESE ARE THE
THINGS THEY DO. AND SIMILARLY
NOW AT, UH AT THE DEPARTMENT OF
BUILDING AND SAFETY WHERE YOU'RE
GOING TO GO AND GET YOUR
ELECTRICAL PLAN CHECK OR YOUR
YOU KNOW YOUR BUILDING PERMIT
AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THEY ALSO
IT GETS FLAGGED, IF YOU IF IT'S
AN E V PROJECT, AND YOU'VE HAD
THE RIGHT, YOU KNOW, WORD IN
THERE AND SAID ABRACADABRA, IT'S
YOU KNOW, GOES INTO THE E V
GROUP, WHICH SHOULD
THEORETICALLY HELP YOU THERE AS
WELL. NOW WHAT'S LACKING FOR
EVERYONE HERE IS SORT THE
TRANSPARENCY THERE, RIGHT. WAIT.
HOW DID YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT
THAT. EXCEPT THAT I JUST TOLD
YOU, UM SO WE DO NEED TO DO A
BETTER JOB OF COMMUNICATING
THESE THINGS. AND UM YOU KNOW
THE A B 9 70 REQUIREMENTS. FOR
EXAMPLE, AROUND FIVE DAY UH FIVE
DAY PERMIT. YOU KNOW IT. THE
PLAN IS COMPLETE OR NOT, AND
THEN 20 DAYS TO ACTUALLY REVIEW
UM MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE
ARE COMING CLOSE TO THAT. BUT
WHEN I WHEN I DO SPEAK WITH
DEVELOPERS I'M HEARING NOT SO
MUCH, RIGHT? SO THEN, OKAY, WELL
, I'M GETTING THIS DATA OVER
HERE FROM THE DEPARTMENTS IN
THIS OVER THERE SO IT'S A IT'S A
CONSTANT FEEDBACK LOOP. WE WANT
TO BE TOLD WHAT'S WRONG. WE ARE.
WE ARE OPEN TO HEARING IT. UM
AND APOLOGIES WHEN WE'RE SLOW.
AND LET ME ADD ONTO SOME OF
THINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO
AND DOING IN ORDER TO HELP
EXPEDITE NOT NECESSARILY THE
PERMIT PROCESS, BUT JUST THE END
GOAL OF GETTING YOUR SERVICES
ONLINE. AS MICHAEL MENTIONED THE
CAPACITY MAP WAS A BIG PART OF
ACCELERATING THAT, OR AT LEAST
EDUCATING, UM, FOCUS ON WHAT IS
AVAILABLE IN THEIR IMMEDIATE
NEIGHBORHOOD. BASED ON WHERE
THEY WANT TO DEVELOP, AND THAT'S
I THINK BEEN A BIG PIECE OF
INFORMATION THAT WE WERE
CONSTANTLY GETTING REQUESTS
ABOUT. UM WE ALSO OFFER THE
OPPORTUNITY TO DO A MORE IN
DEPTH FEASIBILITY STUDY BEFORE
YOUR PROJECT IS READY. THAT
GIVES YOU A LOT MORE INFORMATION
TAKES A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME,
BUT IT GIVES YOU A LOT MORE
INFORMATION, WHICH MORE
INFORMATION YOU HAVE UP FRONT.
THE I THINK THE QUICKER PROCESS
IS GOING TO BE AT THE AT THE
END. AND THEN ALSO, I THINK WE
WANT PEOPLE DEVELOPERS TEAMS
PROJECTS TO COME IN BEFORE
SUBMITTING ANYTHING BECAUSE YOU
SUBMITTED SOMETHING THAT MAY
MEAN YOU. MAYBE ALREADY A LITTLE
TOO LATE. THINGS WILL GET, YOU
KNOW ONCE REQUIREMENTS CHANGE,
OR YOU'RE AWARE OF NEW
INFORMATION THAT COULD
DRASTICALLY IMPACT YOUR PROJECT
SCHEDULE SO COMING IN AND
UNDERSTANDING THOSE REQUIREMENTS
OFF THE BAT. WE HAVE SEEN AND
BELIEVE IS GOING TO BE A KEY
DRIVER TO EXPEDITING PROJECTS,
THE CUTTING THAT PROJECT
LIFECYCLE CONSIDERABLY. GREAT
YEAH. I MEAN, I JUST IMAGINE,
YOU KNOW, FOLKS WHO ARE
INDIVIDUALS COMING AND TRYING TO
GET THEM INSTALLED ARE GOING
THROUGH COMPANIES TRYING TO GET
THEM INSTALLED. AND THEN, UM,
YOU KNOW, MULTI FAMILY, MAYBE
APARTMENT OWNERS AND THINGS LIKE
THAT, WHO ARE TRYING TO BE
PROACTIVE AND DO THE RIGHT THING
BUT NOT FAMILIAR WITH NAVIGATING
THE SCHOOL SYSTEM. YOU KNOW,
NEEDING SOME SUPPORT TO DO THAT,
TOO, SO UM SO APPRECIATE YOUR
IMPROVING AND WORKING ON IT. UM
I KNOW IT'S A EVER IMPROVEMENT
AS WE, YOU KNOW, SCALE UP AND
CONTINUE TO GROW. UM AND ONE
MORE QUESTION, MICHAEL OR MAYBE
A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS. UM I
KNOW YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE
ELECTRIC BUSSES. WE ACTUALLY SAW
THOSE BEING BUILT YESTERDAY UP
IN THE A V AS WELL, UM AND SAW
THEM GETTING READY TO COME ON
DOWN TO L. A, WHICH IS EXCITING.
UM AND YOU KNOW, I HEARD YOU
MENTIONED KIND OF FIGURING OUT
CHARGING WHAT SO I KNOW THERE.
THE CITY IS NOT USING ANY
INDUCTIVE CHARGING OR WIRELESS
CHARGING. IS THAT SOMETHING IN
THERE LOOKING AT? I MEAN ONE OF
THE THINGS I THINK ABOUT WHEN I
THINK OF THE WIRELESS CHARGING
ALSO IS THAT IT REDUCES THE
VANDALISM PROBLEMS, UM, THAT ARE
BEING EXPERIENCED. UM AND YOU
KNOW, IT'S JUST IT SEEMS LIKE
WITH SO MANY, YOU KNOW, WITH
MORE AND MORE UPTAKE IN THE CITY
, AND SO MANY KIND OF
OVERLAPPING STOPS FOR MULTIPLE
DIFFERENT LINES, UM, THAT YOU
KNOW, HAVING KEY LOCATIONS WHERE
THEY COULD CHARGE ALONG THE
ROUTE WOULD HELP BUT CURRENTLY
OR THEY JUST OPERATING SHORTER
BEING TAKEN OFFLINE TO CHARGE OR
HOW HOW IS THAT ALL WORKING? SO
UM, FOR THE L A D O T BUSSES.
THEY'RE FORTUNATE IN THAT THEY
CAN DOMICILE OVERNIGHT. NO
PROBLEM. PLUG IN. THEN THEY HAVE
ENOUGH TO GO THE NEXT DAY. IT'S
A NEIGHBORHOOD CIRCULATORS. SO
THEY DO. MAYBE 80 OR 100 MILES A
DAY. GO BACK TO BASE. ITS ALL
GOOD. UM L A METRO, WHICH THE
MAYOR IS THE CHAIR OF AT THE
MOMENT, AND WE HAVE FOUR OF THE
13 MEMBERS ON THE BOARD. UM IS
MUCH MORE COMPLEX 2400 OR SO
BUSSES MUCH LONGER. AVERAGE
ROUTES. MUCH LONGER DUTY CYCLES.
UH AND MORE COMPLICATED TERRAIN
AND, YOU KNOW, AIR CONDITIONING
ALL THESE KIND OF THINGS. SO, UM
I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR METRO
OPS BECAUSE I AM NOT OUR METRO
LEAD, ALTHOUGH I DO HAVE QUITE A
BIT OF BACKGROUND ON WHAT
THEY'RE DOING, BUT I CAN TELL
YOU FOR DOTTIE AND GENERALLY FAR
FLEETS. UM INDUCTIVE CHARGING,
NON DYNAMIC INDUCTIVE CHARGING.
SO JUST WHERE YOU PARK AND
YOU'RE PARKED OVER AN INDUCTIVE
PLATE LIKE YOUR TOOTHBRUSH OR
YOUR PHONE OR WHATEVER IS
DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE'RE
INTERESTED IN. I THINK IN THE
FLEET CONTEXT, IT'S PARTICULARLY
INTERESTING. ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU
START PARKING THINGS, YOU KNOW,
SORT OF, UH, IN IN MULTIPLE
VEHICLES IN A ROW, WHERE YOU CAN
FREE UP NEEDING TO GET A HUMAN
OVER THERE TO PLUG OR UNPLUG
SOMETHING, AND THERE'S A SORT OF
FREE ACCESS FOR VEHICLES. I KNOW
FOR OUR BUSSES WHERE IT REALLY
IS GOING TO BE. YOU KNOW, YOU'RE
GOING TO SEE THEM ALL LINED UP.
IT COULD BE FIVE OR SIX ROWS
ACROSS AND FIVE OR 7 10 VEHICLES
DEEP. HAVING INDUCTIVE WOULD
WILL BE GREAT WERE, UM SO A V T.
A IN UP IN THE ANTELOPE VALLEY
WHO'VE GONE FULLY. WIRELESS AND
ELECTRIC ARE DOING A TREMENDOUS
SERVICE TO THE INDUSTRY,
LEARNING A LOT OF LESSONS AND,
UM, I THINK ALL OF THE OTHER
TRANSIT AGENCIES WILL BE VERY
EXCITED AND HAPPY TO SEE SORT OF
THAT DATA COME OUT OVER THE
YEARS. UM I AM NOT A TECHNICAL
EXPERT. BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS
THAT THE EYESORE RELATED TO
INDUCTIVE CHARGING IS NOT FIRM
OR NOT FINALIZED, AND SO PEOPLE
WHO ARE INSTALLING IT RIGHT NOW
ARE SORT OF YOU KNOW, JEN ONE.
LET'S SAY OUR VERSION ONE RIGHT
AND THEY'RE WILLING TO SORT OF
GET OUT THERE AND TEST THAT OUT.
UM THERE ARE TECHNICAL ISSUES AS
WELL. I KNOW I'LL SHARE THIS
ANECDOTE. I HEARD WITH METRO, UM
THEY DID LOOK INTO IT FOR THEIR
BUS FLEET, AND THEY HAVE A
PARKING GARAGE WHERE THEY WERE
INTENDING TO PUT THEM IN, BUT
IT'S PRE STRESSED CONCRETE. WITH
UH, REBAR INSIDE OF IT, SO THERE
WAS NO PLACE TO PUT THE CHART.
YOU KNOW THE DAY THE METAL PAD
THAT NEEDS TO BE SUNK INTO THE
GROUND. THEY JUST COULDN'T
PHYSICALLY FIT THAT IN THERE,
AND THIS IS A REALITY WHEN
YOU'RE DEALING IN SPACE
CONSTRAINT, UH, SITUATIONS. YOU
YOU MAY NOT HAVE ACTUALLY THE
PLACE TO BURY THE INFRASTRUCTURE
, SO I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO BE
A LOT OF APPLICATIONS WHERE IT'S
VIABLE IN THE FUTURE. AND I'M
VERY EXCITED FOR WHEN ALL THE O.
E. M S AND ALL THE CHARGING
COMPANIES HAVE ADOPTED ALL THE
STANDARDS AND THE KINKS HAVE
BEEN WORKED OUT OF THE
TECHNOLOGY. I WILL SAY ONE THING
ON THE DYNAMIC CHARGING BECAUSE
WE HAVE SPOKEN WITH BOTH
ELECTRON AND ELLEN ROAD, I THINK
IS THE OTHER ONE WHO'S MAKING A
PITCH ON THIS. AND SOMEWHERE IN
EUROPE, UM IT'S VERY
INTERESTING. I'M REALLY EXCITED
ABOUT WHAT MICHIGAN AGAIN TAKEN
SORT OF THE FIRST MOVER HITS
HERE AND ALL THE ALL THE
LEARNING LESSONS AND COSTS. UM
THERE MAY BE FIXED ROUTES WHERE
IT MAKES SENSE IN THE FUTURE
FREIGHT ROUTES, BUT TRANSIT
ROUTES THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT IN
A IN A COMPLEX CITY LIKE LOS
ANGELES, FINDING THE RIGHT
LOCATIONS TO BURY THAT KIND OF
THOSE, THAT KIND OF
INFRASTRUCTURE WILL BE
COMPLICATED. A STREET
RESURFACING. YOU'RE ONLY TAKING
OFF THE TOP TWO OR THREE INCHES
OF THE PAVEMENT. SO YOU KNOW,
IT'S ALMOST YOU NEED A FULL
STREET. YOU RECONFIGURATION
BEFORE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE
RIGHT SPACE WITHIN THE
INFRASTRUCTURE TO PUT THAT
DYNAMIC, CHARGING, SO VERY
EXCITING. WE ARE INTERESTED. WE
WILL KEEP TABS ON IT. WE MAY RUN
SOME PILOTS. MAYBE A MEAL OVER
HERE APPLIES FOR A GRANT. AND,
UH, WE CAN INSTALL SOMETHING
SOMEWHERE, BUT DEFINITELY
KEEPING OUR EYES ON IT. WE'LL
DEFINITELY TALK TO ME ABOUT
PILOTS BECAUSE I'M INTERESTED
TO. UM SO I DO WANT TO LEAVE
TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. UM, AND
I KNOW SOME FOLKS ARE HERE TO
JOIN THE CONVERSATION. UM JUST
WANTED TO OPEN IT UP TO THE
PANEL. UM, AND ACTUALLY, I WON
JUST QUICK CONVERSATION. UM
MICHELLE, I'M JUST CURIOUS, ARE
YOU BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS I
WAS THINKING AROUND THE
INDUCTIVE CHARGING IS THAT
THERE'S A LOT OF FEDERAL
INFRASTRUCTURE DOLLARS RIGHT
NOW, IS THAT HELPFUL IN ANY WAY
LIKE ARE THERE? YEAH FOR
EXAMPLE, THE PATCH OF THE PIECE
OF ROAD THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE
DOING ARE YOU GOING TO BE? IS
THAT PART OF INFRASTRUCTURE WORK
THAT YOU WOULD BE DOING ANYWAY?
AND YOU CAN KIND OF CAPITALIZE
ON THIS OR IS IT IS THAT NOT
COMING TOGETHER IN A WAY THAT'S
FINANCIALLY BENEFICIAL. YES. SO
I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT POINT.
RIGHT UM YOU KNOW, I THINK IT IS
AN OWNER. OPERATOR SPEAKING, YOU
KNOW, WE HAVE TO BE LOOKING ONE
IS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE PILOT
FOR A REASON. RIGHT? AND WE'RE
LOOKING AT, UM THE USE CASES
ASSOCIATED TO THIS TECHNOLOGY.
AND SOME OF THOSE WE'VE TALKED
ABOUT TODAY. UM YOU KNOW, WE
HAVE A GREAT EXAMPLE OF A USE
CASE YOU KNOW, ASSOCIATED WITH A
LOT OF BORDERS TO CANADA. UM,
HERE IN MICHIGAN, YOU KNOW, REAL
QUICK ONE OF THOSE BUTTS UP TO A
LOT OF TRUCK TRAFFIC, A LOT OF
FREIGHT MOVEMENT ACROSS THE
BORDER SO THAT THE TRUCK STACKED
TO GET THROUGH TOLLS AND CUSTOMS
. THEY HAVE TO CONTINUE TO BE
STILL MOVING. IT'S NOT AN
OPPORTUNITY WHERE THEY COULD
PLUG IN. SO IS THERE SLOW
ROLLING AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND
MOVING? UM THAT'S A GREAT USE
CASE. THE SHUTTLES ARE GREAT USE
CASE. YOU KNOW THINGS LIKE THAT
WHERE YOU KNOW IN THIS THIS
QUICK EARLY TERM IS TO SAY, YOU
KNOW, WHERE CAN THIS REALLY GET
THE ADVANTAGES TO THE TECHNOLOGY
AND THEN LOOKING AS WE GO
FORWARD TO SAY, WHERE DO WE
INSTALL THIS? UM YOUR QUESTION
AS FAR AS YOU KNOW THE ROADWORK
ITSELF. YES THE BOTH PROJECTS
THAT WE'RE USING. WE'RE SET FOR
ROAD PROJECTS TO START WITH. AND
THEN WE JUST IMPLEMENTED. THIS
ADDED ESSENTIALLY, YOU KNOW,
PLANNED SHEETS OF OUR INDUCTIVE
CHARGING INTO THOSE PROJECTS. WE
DID NOT COMBINE THE PROJECTS. UM
BUT WE DID COMBINE THEM FOR THE
BUILD PROCESS TO BE COORDINATED.
SO I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, FROM
OUR PERSPECTIVE, YOU KNOW, AS WE
CONTINUE TO GO THROUGH THIS
PILOT GET LESSONS LEARNED AND
THINGS AS WE LOOK FOR YOU KNOW
THOSE FUTURE USE CASE
IMPLEMENTATIONS. UM YOU KNOW,
THOSE ARE THE OPPORTUNITIES OVER
THERE LOOKING FOR YOU KNOW,
WE'RE NO DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW,
THAN OTHER MANY OTHER STATES
WHERE YOU KNOW WE CAN'T JUST RIP
UP EVERY ROAD AND PUT IT IN AND
WE KNOW THAT, BUT AS WE LOOK
FORWARD IN THE FUTURE, AND WE'RE
PLANNING THESE THINGS WE CAN BE
PROACTIVELY THINKING ABOUT WHERE
WHAT ARE THOSE USE CASES TO THE
BEST ADVANTAGE TO THE USERS OF
THE SYSTEM. AND THEN YOU KNOW
WHERE DO YOU REALLY GET THE
BENEFIT FOR? YOU KNOW
IMPLEMENTATION OF THOSE, SO
WE'LL CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THAT
WE DO, I WILL SAY, UM IN A, YOU
KNOW, HAVE HAD THIS DISCUSSION
WITH THE LUXURY INTO AND MANY
OTHERS IS WE HAVE TO SOLVE THE
INTEROPERABILITY CHALLENGES
ASSOCIATED TO THIS BECAUSE IT'S
NEW. IT'S GOING THROUGH THE SAME
PROCESS. MANY MANY OTHERS HAVE.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT EVEN THE
RELATED SO NOTHING NEW, BUT WE
DO HAVE TO COLLECTIVELY COME
TOGETHER BETWEEN GOVERNMENT
INDUSTRY AND, UM, YOU KNOW,
BASICALLY EVERYBODY IN THE SPACE
TO SAY, HOW ARE WE GOING TO
CREATE THAT INTEROPERABILITY
REQUIREMENTS BECAUSE EVERY TIME
I BID A JOB OUT BEYOND THE PILOT
, IT'S COMPETITIVELY THAT RIGHT
AND THE ONLY WAY I CAN DO THAT
IS IF I HAVE INTEROPERABILITY
BETWEEN THE SYSTEMS. AND THEN
THE USERS NEED TO KNOW THAT HEY,
WHEN I GO OVER THIS ROADWAY, I'M
GOING TO BE ASKED IF I WANT TO
RECEIVE A CHARGE. MAYBE I'M AT
95% AND I DON'T NEED ONE. SO I
DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. UM, YOU
KNOW, AND I DON'T WANT TO
RECEIVE THAT. I WANT TO PAY FOR
THAT. AND MAYBE THEY'RE AT YOU
KNOW 25% AND THEY NEED TO GET
JUST ENOUGH CHARGE TO MAKE IT
HOME OR MAKE IT TO A MEETING OR
THINGS LIKE THAT. WHERE YOU KNOW
THEY CHOOSE TO TAKE THOSE
OPPORTUNITIES. AND I WOULD I
WOULD CONTINUE TO, YOU KNOW,
PUSH FOLKS TO THINK WAY BEYOND
AND SAY, YOU KNOW, HOW CAN THIS
TECHNOLOGY ENABLED THE
OPPORTUNITY FOR SOMEBODY TO
MAYBE GET ADDITIONAL CHARGE THAN
WHAT THEY NEED TO GET HOME AND
THEN THEY GIVE BACK TO THE GRID
AT MAYBE A POTENTIALLY HIGHER
PAY RATE IN RETURN, SO LOTS OF
INNOVATIVE THINKING PROBABLY
MANY YEARS OUT, BUT WE HAVE TO
CONTINUE TO BE VISIONARY. UM AND
WE HAVE TO BE CONTINUED TO BE
INNOVATIVE TO COME UP WITH. WHAT
DOES THAT FUTURE? WHAT DO THOSE
SOLUTIONS LOOK LIKE? AND CAN
PEOPLE ACTUALLY USE THIS? YOU
KNOW TO DO OTHER MEANS OUTSIDE
OF JUST CHARGING THEIR CAR TO
ACTUALLY SOLVE OTHER CHALLENGES
THAT THEY HAVE FOR THEIR QUALITY
OF LIFE. THANK YOU. AND JUST ANY
ANY CLOSING THOUGHTS FROM THE
PANELISTS THAT YOU WANT TO WRAP
UP WITH THEM. ON A QUICKLY NOTE
SOME RECENT RESEARCH THAT ARE
CLEAN FIELDS AND INFRASTRUCTURE
TEAM DID AS WELL THAT THAT'S
PUBLISHED. UM IT'S GOT A PHASING
IN INFRASTRUCTURE OF REPORT. SO
AVAILABLE ON OUR WEBSITE CAL
START .ORG. BUT IT ALSO
ENVISIONS SORT OF A MODEL OF HOW
CAN WE PHASE IN INFRASTRUCTURE
DEPLOYMENT AROUND CORRIDORS AND
HUBS ACROSS THE STATE, WHERE
INDUSTRY AND FREE IS LOCATED
WHERE THERE MAY BE MORE GRID
CAPACITY AND WHERE THERE CAN
ALSO BE MORE OF THESE PUBLIC
PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP, SO THAT
MIGHT BE AN ADDITIONAL REPORT
THAT MIGHT BE INTERESTING. THANK
YOU. AND JUST, I THINK THEY
CONTINUED. PARTNERSHIPS WITH
PUBLIC AGENCIES WITH OUR WITH
OUR CUSTOMERS AND USING THE
RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE WILL
CONTINUE TO HELP EXPAND THE
OPPORTUNITIES FOR, UM, NEW
TECHNOLOGY. I BELIEVE WE HAD A
NEW INDUCTIVE CHARGER INSTALLED
AT THE PORT OF L. A AS AS A
RESULT OF SOME OF THE FUNDING
THAT WE PROVIDE THEM. SO WE'RE
GOING TO CONTINUE TO USE OUR
RESOURCES TO, UM, GET MAXIMUM
BENEFIT FOR THE CITIZENS OF LOS
ANGELES. THANK YOU. GOOD TO GO.
OKAY WONDERFUL. UM WELL, THANK
YOU SO MUCH. SO NOW WE WOULD
LOVE TO TURN IT OVER TO PUBLIC
COMMENT. IF THERE'S ANYONE HERE.
I THINK WE HAVE A MIC OVER ON
THE SIDE OF THE ROOM. YOU CAN
QUEUE UP THERE. UM AND PLEASE,
IF YOU CAN STATE YOUR NAME UM
AND. AND I THINK WE HAVE TIME.
FOR TWO MINUTES EACH. THANK YOU.
A STRUCTURE. I WAS THE PERSON
THEY GOT TO TELL A LOT OF THEIR
FEELINGS TO, UM, TOOK A LOT OF
THAT TO HEART AND LAUNCHED
CHARGER HELP IN JANUARY. 2020
ACTUALLY AT THE L, A CLEAN TECH
INCUBATOR WITH MY CO FOUNDER,
EVAN ELLIS, UM AND SO WE'VE HAD
TREMENDOUS SUPPORT FROM
INCUBATION PROGRAMS IN ORDER FOR
US TO CREATE OUR COMPANY. BUT
REALLY, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT
SOLVING IS REALLY UNDERSTANDING.
WHY DO CHARGING STATIONS UM,
BEHAVE THE WAY THAT THEY DO. AND
WHY DON'T WE KNOW ABOUT IT? UM
SO TODAY, TODAY YOU MAY FIND A
CHARGING STATION THAT WOULD SHOW
UP AS ONLINE AND AVAILABLE ON
THE PLATFORM. BUT WHEN IN FACT
YOU GO ON SITE THAT STATIONS DOT
WORKING AND SO THE WAY THAT
WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT SOLVING
THIS PROBLEM IS BY UTILIZING
DATA FROM THE FIELD AND SO WON
BEST PRACTICE THAT I WOULD LIKE
TO HIGHLIGHT IS THAT WE WORK
WITH S A INTERNATIONAL TO CREATE
THE FIRST E VSC TECHNICIAN
CERTIFICATION. THIS
CERTIFICATION WAS IN, UM, PUT
TOGETHER BY MANUFACTURERS FROM
THE INDUSTRY TO DESCRIBE WHAT
DOES IT TAKE TO BE A SUCCESSFUL
TECHNICIAN, AND FROM THERE? WE
ACTUALLY LAUNCHED THE CURRICULUM
? UM WITH 14, MICHIGAN CENTRAL.
THERE WILL BE THE FIRST SET OF
PARTICIPANTS THAT WILL BE DOING
THIS TRAINING PROGRAM. UM AND
WE'LL BE RELAUNCHING AGAIN WITH
THE L. A CLEAN TECH INCUBATOR.
BUT THE COOL THING ABOUT THAT
PROGRAM IS THAT YOU HAVE FOLKS
NOW THAT UNDERSTANDS THE
BEHAVIOR OF THE STATION. THE
SECOND PART THAT WE'RE DOING AT
CHARGER HELP IS AGGREGATING THAT
DATA IN A MEANINGFUL WAY. SO
EARLIER THIS WEEK WE HIT OUR
18,000 FILLED INTERACTION, AND
THESE FIELD INTERACTIONS ARE
VERY NEAT BECAUSE WHAT IT DOES
IS REALLY PRESCRIBED. UH
TRANSLATION FOR WHAT THE
CHARGING STATIONS ARE ACTUALLY
DOING SO WE CAN LEARN. OKAY THIS
IS WHAT WE SAW IN THE FIELD.
THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE
DID. AND THIS IS WHAT THE
STATION HOW THE STATION WAS
BEHAVING AND THIS IS WHAT THE
SOFTWARE SAID. AND THEN WE'VE
BEEN ABLE TO FIND PATTERNS AND
IDENTIFY DIFFERENT WAYS TO BE
MORE PREVENTATIVE AND THEN ALSO
WAYS FOR US TO BE ABLE TO UM,
HELP THE INDUSTRY UNDERSTAND
SOME OF THE INTEROPERABILITY
ISSUES THAT WE'RE SEEING, BUT
THIS BRINGS ME TO ONE OF MY
FIRST. UM SUGGESTIONS ARE ASKED
THAT WE'RE SEEKING. UM TODAY
MOST PEOPLE THINK THAT THEIR
DATA IS I P LIKE ALL OF THEIR
DATA SAIPI, SO IT'S VERY HARD TO
GAIN ACCESS TO EVEN JUST OH CPP
STATION STATUS DATA. SO THERE'S
A HUGE OPPORTUNITY THERE THAT IF
CHARGE MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS WAS
MORE OPEN WITH THEIR DATA SETS,
YOU CAN HAVE MORE COMPANIES.
LIKE CHARGER HELP THAT CAN
UTILIZE THE FIELD SERVICE DATA
ALONGSIDE THAT DATA TO GET TO A
BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THAT
STATION IS WORKING. THE LAST, UM
REQUEST THAT WE HAVE IS REALLY
FOR US TO TAKE A MOMENT AND TO
REALLY LOOK AT HOW HAVE WE
PREPARED PREPARED SITE HOSTS FOR
THE OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE
OF THE CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE.
A LOT OF THE SITE HOSTS THAT WE
WORK WITH THEY RECEIVED CHARGING
INFRASTRUCTURE FOR FREE, AND NOW
THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO
INCLUDE OPERATIONS AND
MAINTENANCE COSTS. HOWEVER OFTEN
TIMES FOLKS DO NOT KNOW HOW MUCH
IT WILL COST TO OPERATE AND
MAINTAIN THE STATION. AND SO I
THINK THERE IS A LOT OF
OPPORTUNITY, UM, TO CREATE, UM,
EDUCATIONAL PANELS ABOUT THE
REALITY OF CHARGING
INFRASTRUCTURE AND HOW YOU
SHOULD THINK ABOUT AND BUDGET
FOR O AND M COST AND THE LAST
THING I'LL SAY BECAUSE I LIKE TO
LEAD WITH HOPE. DR. RUIS UM, IS
THAT WE'RE SUPER EXCITED ABOUT
THE WORK THAT THAT THE STATE HAS
DONE AND ALSO JUST EVIE CHARGING
INFRASTRUCTURE CHARGING STATIONS
ARE IOT ASSETS, AND SO AS WE
LOOK TOWARDS THE FUTURE ER OF
SMART CITIES. THIS IS AN
INCREDIBLE OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO
LEARN HOW SOFTWARE INTERACTS
WITH THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT AND,
MORE IMPORTANTLY, FOR US TO BE
ABLE TO TRAIN AND PREPARE
WORKERS, TRADITIONAL BLUE COLLAR
WORKERS TO START INTERACTING IN
THE SOFTWARE SPACE. AND THE LAST
LAST THING IS WHY WE SEE SO MUCH
HOPE IN THIS. WE HAD OPENED UP
20 SPOTS, UM, FOR FULL SERVICE
TECHNICIANS. WE HAD 1600 PEOPLE
APPLY, AND THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT
ARE COMING FROM OIL AND GAS
BACKGROUNDS AND OTHER FIELD
SERVICE SPACES. SO FOLKS ARE SO
EXCITED TO NOW WORK IN A SPACE
WHERE THEY CAN UNDERSTAND
SOFTWARE TECHNOLOGY AND THE
BUILT ENVIRONMENT. THANK YOU SO
MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU SO
MUCH. HI MY NAME IS MAYA IN
EAGLE ANDERSON. I'M WITH
COMMUNITIES FOR A BETTER
ENVIRONMENT. WE WORK ON
ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE ISSUES UP
AND DOWN THE STATE. BUT IN SO
CAL, WE HAVE OUR MEMBERSHIP
PRIMARILY IN THE WILMINGTON'S
AREAS, AND, UH, SOUTHEAST AREAS,
BUT WE ALSO WORK IN ASSEMBLY
MEMBER SEATTLE'S DISTRICT MIGHT
PRONOUNCING THAT CORRECTLY. OKAY
WE'RE GONNA ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S SHE
HAD WAS DISTRICT ALSO IN
SOLIDARITY WITH SOME OTHER
ENVIRONMENTAL ORGANIZATIONS
THERE. UM AND I APPRECIATE ALL
THE REFERENCES TO EQUITY TODAY.
I ALSO APPRECIATE THE
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S MAKING THIS
EVENT PUBLICLY AVAILABLE, AND
THAT'S NOT HAVING TO COME TO YOU
IN SACRAMENTO. AND I APPRECIATE
PROFESSORS REESE KIND OF
DETAILED ANALYSIS OF EQUITY WHEN
IT COMES TO PUBLIC TRANSIT AND
SOME OF THE OTHER TOPICS WE
TALKED ABOUT TODAY. MY QUESTION
IS ABOUT CHARGING AND MULTI
FAMILY HOUSING. A LOT OF OUR
MEMBERS THAT CP OR A LOW INCOME
COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO LIVE IN
MULTI FAMILY HOUSING. I HAPPEN
TO BE AN E V OWNER AND I LIVE IN
MULTI FAMILY HOUSING, AND I'M
LUCKY ENOUGH THAT I AM ABLE TO
CHARGE UM, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE
IN EGYPT COMMUNITIES OR I SHOULD
SAY ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE
COMMUNITIES FOR THOSE WHO DON'T
KNOW THE ACRONYM ARE UNABLE TO
CHARGE THEIR VEHICLES OR DON'T
EVEN PURCHASE A VEHICLE IF THEY
DON'T THINK THEY'RE GOING TO BE
ABLE TO CHARGE IT RELIABLY. UM
SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CHARGES
AND OLDER BUILDINGS, RIGHT, WE
HEARD FROM L. A DWP THAT, UM A
LOT OF BUILDINGS IN L A ARE
OLDER BUILDINGS. SO HOW DO WE
IDENTIFY STATE LEVEL FUNDING OR
CITY OR COUNTY LEVEL FUNDING TO
HELP LOW INCOME TENANTS
FINANCIALLY AND SMALL SCALE
LANDLORDS FINANCIALLY AND SOME
OF THE SMALLER, MULTI FAMILY
BUILDINGS TO FINANCE THE
INSTALLATION OF CHARGING
STATIONS OR ANY OTHER, UM KIND
OF PROGRAMS THAT MIGHT
FACILITATE LOW INCOME COMMUNITY
MEMBERS BEING ABLE TO HAVE
ACCESS TO E. V. S AND E. V.
CHARGING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU,
AND WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY ABLE TO
DO Q AND A DURING PUBLIC
COMMENT, BUT I'M SURE PANELISTS
WOULD BE HAPPY TO STICK AROUND
AND CHAT AFTERWARDS. AND I KNOW
A LOT OF THOSE PROGRAMS WERE
DISCUSSED TODAY IN THE
PRESENTATIONS AS WELL. THANK
YOU. HI MY NAME IS PAUL JENNINGS
. UH QUALIFYING MYSELF. I'M A
BOARD MEMBER OUT HERE AT NORTH
RIDGE ON THE FOUNDATION. MOST
IMPORTANTLY, I'M IN NORTHRIDGE
GRAD, SO I GOT A REAL GOOD
EDUCATION. ALSO ON THE BOARD OF,
UH LACEY AND ALSO ON THE BOARD
OF L. A BUSINESS COUNCIL. BUT
MOST IMPORTANTLY, I HAVE A
COMPANY THAT HAS INSTALLED
25,000 ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGERS
IN THIS STATE. IN APARTMENTS AND
THE VAST MAJORITY OF THOSE ARE
HERE IN L A. I'M GONNA SPEAK
GRANULAR TO WHAT? THESE TWO
GENTLEMEN WERE SAYING UP HERE.
DWP IS IN AN UTTERLY UNIQUE
POSITION TO WHAT MICHAEL SAID,
BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GUIDED UNDER
THE P. YOU SEE, IT'S ACTUALLY A
TOTAL BUSINESS RESPONDENT MODEL
SO IN THE PROGRAM STARTED ABOUT
FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO AND WE
GOT INVOLVED. I SAT DOWN WITH
NANCY SUBTLY, AND I'M GOING TO
ASK ADDRESS SOME OF DR REASONS
HIS POINT. AND WHAT NANCY SUTLEY
HE MICHAEL, SHOOT YOUR BOSS NOW.
RIGHT OKAY. SO NANCY IS PROBABLY
ONE OF THE MOST WELL RESPECTED
PEOPLE IN THE RENEWABLE SPACE.
HER STATEMENT TO ME WAS THERE
WAS ABOUT 20 MILLION A YEAR
GOING INTO L. A DWP TV PROGRAM.
HER STATEMENT WAS. I'M NOT HERE
TO PUT YOU IN BUSINESS. THIS IS
AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO CREATE
A BUSINESS. TAKE THAT MOMENT IN
TIME. TODAY WE'RE STILL THEIR
BIGGEST PARTICIPANT IN THE
PROGRAM. WE PUT ABOUT 80% OF OUR
CHARGERS IN DISADVANTAGED
COMMUNITIES. WE HAVE WORKED
DIRECTLY WITH NANCY SUTLEY AND
TEAM TO REALLOCATE THE PROGRAM
MORE AND MORE INTO D A C AT THE
SAME TIME WE ARE NOW BECAUSE
ELLA IS THE MOST ADVANCED E V
MARKET IN THE COUNTRY. BECAUSE
WE'RE NOT REGULATED BECAUSE
THEY'RE OPEN MINDED AND BECAUSE
OF COLLABORATORS BY COMPARISON,
WE CAN NOW PUT A V CHARGER IN
DWP AREA FOR ABOUT 2500. IT COST
US ANOTHER 1500 TO MAINTAIN IT
FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. BY
COMPARISON, AND EDISON WE'VE PUT
OUT NOW ABOUT WE'RE UP TO ABOUT
10,000 A MONTH A YEAR NOW BACK,
RAMPING UP WITH DWP. BY
COMPARISON WITH EDISON. WE'VE
ONLY PUT IN A COUPLE OF 100. NOW
WE HAVE 15,000 AND BACKORDER
WITH EDISON THE CHALLENGE AND
WE'RE DEALING WITH REALLY SMART
PEOPLE AT ADDISON AND REALLY
SMART PEOPLE THAT BèC AGAIN,
MICHAEL TOUCHED ON IT. IT'S A
RATE OF RETURN MODEL. THIS WAS
THE DEMISE OF 80 T. WHY DO WE
WANT $2500 CHORDS AS WE CALL
THEM? BECAUSE WE KNOW WHEN
SOMEBODY OWNS AN E. V, AND THEY
CAN PLUG IN EVERY NIGHT WITH ONE
LITTLE PIECE EDITION MISSING IN
OUR INDUSTRY, AND ASSEMBLYWOMAN,
UH SKINNER IS WORKING ON THIS.
BI DIRECTIONALITY IS LIKE HAVING
APPS FOR SMARTPHONES. BECAUSE
THE MOMENT ALL THESE FOLKS IN
THE DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES
CAN PLUG THEIR CAR IN AND SEND
POWER TO WAYS THEY'RE THE SAME
FOLKS THAT ON A REALLY HOT DAY,
WE'LL HAVE THE ECONOMIC
OPPORTUNITY. NOW STAY WITH ME
HERE ON THIS CAMPUS. IT HAS MORE
EVIE ACTIVITY THAN ANY OTHER
COUNT IN ALL LOTS ANGELES. WHY?
BECAUSE THEY'VE INSTALLED EVIE
CHARGES. HAPPENS TO BE ALREADY
BE CHARGED. BUT WHAT I CAN TELL
YOU THIS GO OUT 10 YEARS FROM
NOW. WHAT WILL HAPPEN BECAUSE
ALL THESE APARTMENTS ONLY HAVE
200 PANELS. TODAY THEY CAN ONLY
CHARGE FIVE CARS THROUGH
TECHNOLOGY REAL TIME
COMMUNICATION AND OPS CENTER,
WHICH GIVES US 99.7% OF TIME.
UH, I CAN SAY THAT. IT IS ALL
COMING TOGETHER, BECAUSE ONCE WE
HAVE BI DIRECTIONAL, IT IS
DEMOCRATIZING ENERGY AND THE
FACT THAT THAT PERSON ON THE
VERY BOTTOM WHO HAS NOW THE
OPPORTUNITY TO GO OUT TO THE
DESERT BY ENERGY WILL CHEAP AND
BRING IT DOWN HERE TO NORTHRIDGE
BECAUSE ON A HOT DAY NORTHWARDS
HAVING 15,000 CORDS HERE IN THIS
PARKING LOT HAVING PEOPLE COMING
FROM ALL OVER SOUTHERN
CALIFORNIA TO GO TO COLLEGE HERE
. THEY'RE HERE FOR HOURS. THIS
SOUNDS LIKE AN IDEAL ENVIRONMENT
TO CREATE A STRATEGIC PORTAL.
AND HOW CAN WE DO IT HERE? DO
YOU W HERE AT NORTHWARDS BECAUSE
THEY GOT A 48 K LINE COMING OUT
OF THE CAMPUS, WHICH IS 34 K
LINE, I'D RATHER 34 K LINE
COMING OUT OF THE CAMPUS. SO I
WANT TO LEAVE ON A VERY, VERY
OPTIMISTIC MOMENT THAT WE KNOW
TODAY. E V S REALLY COST 10
CENTS A MINUTE MILE TO DRIVE IF
YOU CUT OUT ALL THE NONSENSE WHY
TOUCH. INTERNAL COMBUSTION
ENGINE CAR HAS OVER 1000 MOVING
PARTS AND E V HAS CONCISELY 11.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A ROCKET
SCIENCE TO FIGURE OUT LONG TERM,
WHICH ONE'S GOING TO WIN THE
OPERATING COSTS, SO THE WHOLE
FUTURE IS ABOUT OPERATING COSTS
AND THE SECRET AND I THINK OFTEN
ENTRENCHED IN THE INCUMBENTS,
THE FOSSIL FUEL GUYS. AND THE
AUTO INDUSTRY ZONE CALLED AFRAID
OF CHANGE IS THAT YOU HAVE THE
ECONOMICS ARE HERE TODAY TO GET
TRANSPORTATION TO DOWN CHEAP,
ACCESSIBLE TO MANY, AND JUST
LIKE THE SMARTPHONE TOOK MORE
PEOPLE OUT OF POVERTY THAN ANY
OTHER SINGLE PIECE OF TECHNOLOGY
IN HUMAN HISTORY. I'M GOING TO
SUGGEST ONCE WE GET OUR ACT
TOGETHER, AND IT'S ON ITS WAY
THAT THE VEHICLE AND
ACCESSIBILITY TO VEHICLE WILL
TAKE MORE PEOPLE OUT OF POVERTY
THAN EVEN THE SMARTPHONE DID
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HI UM,
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS
AMAZING HEARING. UM IF YOU CAN
SAY YOUR NAME AND ORGANIZATION,
SORRY, TONGA FROM ELECTRON, UM,
THE WIRELESS CHARGING COMPANY
THAT DOES BOTH DYNAMIC AND
STATIC WIRELESS CHARGING. SO
FIRST OF ALL, AND GREAT TO MEET
YOU IN PERSONAL. UH, MICHAEL, UM
SO FIRST OF ALL, CONGRATULATIONS
. I THINK TO CALIFORNIA FOR
HAVING SUCH STRINGENT GOALS ON
TV ADOPTION. I THINK IT'S REALLY
WORTH NOTING THAT IN THE WORLD,
CALIFORNIA IS A LEADER AND HAS
ALWAYS BEEN AND IT'S FASCINATING
TO BE LIVING NOW IN CALIFORNIA
TO ACTUALLY HELP THE STATE
ACHIEVE ITS GOALS ON TV ADOPTION
, AND WHEN I READ THIS, UM THE
NUMBER OF CHARGES THAT NEED TO
FOLLOW IS 1 MILLION CHARGERS BY
2030. $2,000,002 MILLION
CHARGERS BY 2035. AND I THINK
YOU KNOW THAT WHAT? VERY WELL
THAT WE WILL HIT THE WALL IF WE
DON'T THINK IN A NEW AND
INNOVATIVE WAY AND SO THINKING
ABOUT WIRELESS CHARGING, AND I
APPRECIATE, UM MICHELLE'S
PRESENTATION AND COMMENTS HERE,
BECAUSE IT'S REALLY FASCINATING
AND WORKING AND ACTUALLY
DEPLOYING STUFF, BECAUSE ONE
THING IS PRESENTATION. ONE THING
IS TECHNOLOGY. ANOTHER THING IS
BRINGING SOMETHING TO THE LIFE.
SO ALL THE QUESTIONS YOU
MENTIONED MICHAEL ON PERMITTING
PROCESS OR THE CHALLENGES
INTEGRATING TECHNOLOGY WITH A,
YOU KNOW, MILLER AND REFILL
PROJECT. INTEGRATING IT INTO
CONCRETE. DEVELOPING A BUSINESS
MODEL. HOW CAN WE ACTUALLY MAKE
USE OF THIS CHARGING
INFRASTRUCTURE IN A NEW WAY?
THAT IS MORE OF A SHARED
PARADIGM. SO INSTEAD OF THINKING
THAT EVERYBODY NEEDS TO HAVE
THEIR OWN HOSE, EVERYBODY NEEDS
TO HAVE THEIR OWN FUELING
STATION. WE NEED TO HAVE OUR OWN
PLUG. WHAT IF WE START SUDDENLY
SEE THE ROADS AS THAT? OAN. WE
HAVE OUR ROADS. AND WHAT WE HAVE
THE COMMON DOMINATED ROADS THAT
WE HAVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC. CAN WE
USE THAT ROAD TO SHARE? THE
CHARGING BETWEEN NOT ONLY MY
FLEET BUT BETWEEN DIFFERENT
FLEETS IN THE SAME CATEGORIES IF
IT BUSSES BUT ALSO OTHER TYPES
OF VEHICLES, SO I THINK THIS
WORK STARTS BY ACTUALLY
PARTNERING TOGETHER BETWEEN THE
PUBLIC AND THE PRIVATE SECTOR
AND SEE WHAT ARE THE BARRIERS
TODAY WITH EXISTING FUNDING,
WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, LEVEL TWO OR
FUEL FUEL CELL OR THE C FAST
CHARGER. HOW CAN WE GET IN THIS
KIND OF INNOVATIVE THINKING
BECAUSE AS I SEE IT, THIS IS AN
ERA WHERE WE ARE PREPARING FOR
TAKEOFF. AND WE NEED TO LEARN
WHAT WE CAN DO TO CREATE THIS
FUTURE TOGETHER WHERE I THINK IT
WILL BE A MIX OF TECHNOLOGIES,
OBVIOUSLY, BUT I THINK THIS HAS
TO PLAY A ROLE. I THINK THIS CAN
ENABLE AND HELP CALIFORNIA
ACHIEVE ITS GOAL TO ADOPTION. SO
THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU.
HELLO MY NAME IS DR LORRAINE
LINDQUIST. I TEACH
SUSTAINABILITY HERE ON CAMPUS,
AND I JUST WANT TO THANK FIRST
OF ALL ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S SHIAVO
FOR BRINGING THIS HEARING HERE
TO CAMPUS, AND, UM, TO YOU AND
YOUR TEAM FOR REACHING OUT TO
THE INSTITUTE FOR SUSTAINABILITY
TO HELP PUT THE PANEL TOGETHER.
AND ALL OF THAT, UM, WE'RE
REALLY EXCITED TO HOST YOU HERE
AND GREAT TO, UM, HEAR ALL OF
THE AMAZING SPEAKERS. I JUST
WANTED TO UPLIFT A FEW THINGS
THAT, UM MIGHT HAVE MIGHT. USE A
LITTLE MORE EMPHASIS. I THINK
AND WHAT WE HEARD TODAY. UM ONE
THING IS THAT YOU KNOW I WAS. I
HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REPRESENT
SEASON AS UM UH, ON THE ADVISORY
BOARD FOR THE L. A 100 STUDY,
WHICH WAS A STUDY FOR THE DWP
CONDUCTED IN TERMS OF HOW TO GET
, UM ALL OF OUR ELECTRICITY
GENERATION AT DWP TO 100. UM
CLEAN ENERGY ELECTRICITY
PRODUCTION AND RESULTED IN THE
CITY OF L. A DECIDING TO MOVE TO
100% BY 2035. SO THAT'S OUR
CURRENT GOAL. UM, THEY
INTERESTING THING THAT WE FOUND
IN THAT STUDY. IS THAT, OF
COURSE, IT'S GOING TO COST MONEY
TO SHIFT OVER TO CLEAN
ELECTRICITY, BUT, UM, THE RATES
ACTUALLY COME DOWN, THE MORE WE
DO ELECTRIFICATION, SO THAT
INCLUDES BOTH BUILDING
ELECTRIFICATION IN
TRANSPORTATION ELECTRIFICATION.
SO THERE'S AMAZING CO BENEFITS.
NOT ONLY ARE WE GREENING, UM YOU
KNOW OUR TRANSPORTATION SECTOR
AND REDUCING OUR CARBON
EMISSIONS, BUT WE'RE ACTUALLY
ALSO MAKING THINGS BETTER FOR,
YOU KNOW, AT LEAST IN SOME WAYS
FOR THE REPAIRS, RIGHT? UM AND
IN TERMS OF AT LEAST IN TERMS OF
THE DWP STUDY, AND THEN ANOTHER
THING I WANTED TO UPLIFT. UM I'M
SO GLAD THAT WE HAVE DR STEVIE
RUIZ, PER YOU KNOW, GIVING THE
ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE
PERSPECTIVE AND I JUST REALLY
WANTED TO UPLIFT SOME OF WHAT
YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE
EMPHASIS ON PUBLIC
TRANSPORTATION. UM YOU KNOW,
WHEN WE LOOK AT AT THIS STUDIES
THAT LOOK AT HOW WE'RE GOING TO
SOLVE OUR CLIMATE EMERGENCY AND
WHAT WE NEED TO DO IN TERMS OF
OUR CLIMATE. YES WE NEED TO
ELECTRIFY ALL OF TRANSPORTATION,
BUT IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT
CHEAPER AND A LOT MORE EQUITABLE
. UM, IF WE DON'T JUST REPLACE
ALL THE CARS THAT WE HAVE RIGHT
NOW, WITH ELECTRIC VEHICLES,
RIGHT IF WE DO A LOT MORE OF
MAKING TRANSIT ACCESSIBLE,
MAKING, UM. YOU KNOW OUR CITIES
BETTER MAKING, MAKING LAND USE
BETTER MAKING SURE THAT WE
IMPROVE OUR PUBLIC TRANSIT
SYSTEMS, MAKING IT EASIER FOR
PEOPLE TO GET AROUND IN LOTS OF
DIFFERENT WAYS. WHETHER IT'S
BIKING, WALKING, TAKING TRANSIT,
TAKING HIGH SPEED RAIL, YOU KNOW
ALL OF ALL OF THE VARIOUS
DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE CAN GET
AROUND. UM IT'S A LOT CHEAPER.
IT'S ALSO JUST A LOT LESS. UM
IMPACT ON ON THE SUSTAINABILITY
ISSUES THAT DO COME WITH ALL OF
THE BATTERIES AND INFRASTRUCTURE
THAT'S NEEDED TO TRY TO REPLACE
OF ALL OF OUR VEHICLES WITH
ELECTRIC VEHICLES, SO JUST WANT
TO EMPHASIZE YOU KNOW THAT THEY
INTERCONNECTED NATURE OF ALL OF
THESE ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT
WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT TODAY
AND JUST THINK ALL OF YOU AGAIN
IN OLIVER SPEAKERS. FOR THIS
GREAT PANEL. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR
LEADERSHIP. LESS LAST PART.
DAVID BULLOCK. I AM A MEMBER
HERE IN THE 40TH DISTRICT. I
LIVE HERE LIVED HERE. MY WHOLE
LIFE I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT
THERE'S A DISCONNECT IN
CALIFORNIA. NO, I'M NOT TALKING
ABOUT THERE NOT BEING ENOUGH
CHARGING STATIONS FOR THE
INEFFICIENT ELECTRIC VEHICLE.
THE DISCONNECT IS MOST PEOPLE
THAT I SURVEY HAVE NO CLUE WHO
THEIR ELECTED REPRESENTATIVE IS.
THIS APPLIES TO PEOPLE CONSIDER
THEMSELVES POLITICALLY ASTUTE
AND HAVE WELL THOUGHT OPINIONS
ON POLITICAL TOPICS. WHEN I ASK
PEOPLE THIS PAST WEEK WHAT THEY
THOUGHT OF ELECTRIC VEHICLES IN
PREPARATION FOR THIS HEARING,
MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE SEE THE
STATE'S DIRECT THEM AND
ELIMINATING GAS POWERED VEHICLES
IS A BAD DECISION THAT WILL
ULTIMATELY MAKE US POOR.
ALTHOUGH OWNERS OF EBI ENJOY
HAVING THEM THEY REALIZED THE
ISSUE WITH OWNING THEM. MOST
PEOPLE KNOW HOW ENVIRONMENTAL
DAMAGING JUST THE COLLECTION OF
RAW MATERIALS ARE TO THE THIRD
WAR PEOPLE IN THE COUNTRIES THAT
MIND THEM, SUCH AS WHAT'S
HAPPENING WITH LITHIUM
PRODUCTION IN CHILE AND THE
DEVASTATING EFFECTS OF COBALT
MINING IN THE CONGO, THE HEALTH
OF QUINCY, THE HEALTH
CONSEQUENCES ABOUT MENTALLY AND
PHYSICALLY THE DEGRADATION TO
THEIR LAND, THEIR REMOVAL
FARMING LAND IN THE POLLUTING OF
THE WATERS. THE PEOPLE OF THE
STATE ARE POOR, UM, WILL LOSE
WELL AS THE NET ZERO GOALS OF
2045 AND ZERO GOAL. UH BUT
ELIMINATING GAS POWERED VEHICLES
BY 2035 LOCAL ENERGY COSTS FOR
GREEN POWER PRODUCTION HAS
RISEN. THE COST OF ELECTRICITY
IN THE STATES SIGNIFICANTLY TO
BUILD SOLAR AND WIND FARMS THAT
CANNOT BE CONTROLLED TO BRING
ELECTRICITY TO THE GRID AS
NEEDED. BATTERY STORAGE FOR GRID
ELECTRICITY AS A. SOLUTION FOR
THIS IS INEFFICIENT, ONLY
ALLOWING AS LOS ANGELES
DEPARTMENT OF WATER AND POWER.
HAS CONTRACTED WITH THE COMPANY
IN KERN. TO BRINGING 300
MEGAWATTS OF 300 AT THREE HOURS
A DAY. THOSE BATTERIES HAVE A
LIMITED LIFESPAN OF SEVEN YEARS
OF BOTH. BEFORE THOSE BATTERIES
WILL HAVE TO BE REPLACED,
CAUSING MORE ECOLOGICAL AND
FINANCIAL STRAIN. TO THE NOT
JUST CALIFORNIA, BUT HER
NEIGHBORS AROUND THE WORLD.
PEOPLE THAT CAN BUY A CAR FOR 3
TO $5000 A DAY. TODAY AND WORK
IN THE GIG ECONOMY TO MAKE A
COUPLE $100 A DAY WILL NOT HAVE
THAT ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY IN THE
FUTURE. THEY'RE COMING ON. THOSE
ARE APPLYING TO PEOPLE THAT ARE
COMING UP IN THE WORLD. AND
THOSE THAT ARE TRYING TO RECOVER
FROM A DOWNFALL IN THEIR OWN
LIFE, BE A PERSONAL OR FINANCIAL
THIS WILL BE A LIMITED BECAUSE
OF THE COST OF ELECTRIC VEHICLES
ARE A RICH PERSON'S GAME. THIS
CONFERENCE ADDRESSES THE ISSUES
OF PEOPLE BEING THIS CONFERENCE
HAZARDOUS TO THE ISSUES OF
PEOPLE BEING REMOVED FROM THE
JOB BECAUSE OF THIS NEW
DIRECTION OF ZERO CARBON WITH
TRAINING BACKGROUND EXPERIENCE
THAT THESE PEOPLE HAVE IN THE
TRAINING, THEY'LL BE FINE, SUCH
AS MYSELF. I WORK WITH AN
EMPLOYER THAT WOULD RETRAIN ME
IF I WAS REMOVED FROM MY JOB AND
A GAS POWERED GENERATING
STATION. THE COST FOR THESE
DIRECT THESE BIG CALLS ARE
ECONOMICALLY PROHIBITED BECAUSE
YOU HAVE TO BE IN THE TOP 20% OF
EARNERS TO ENJOY TO BUY ONE.
PEOPLE THAT RESORT TO THE GIG
ECONOMY. THOSE ARE STARTING OUT.
RICO HADIYA'S TOUCH ON THAT, BUT
WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THOSE PEOPLE
MOST LIKELY REPLACED BY ROBOTS,
AND THAT'S A SHAME. SO AS YOU
PLAN FOR THE FUTURE WITH HIS
INFRASTRUCTURE THAT BURIED
PEOPLE, FEW PEOPLE IN THE STATE
WANT AND MOST PEOPLE WON'T BE
ABLE TO AFFORD. I SPEAK FOR THE
MAJORITY OF CALIFORNIA TODAY
THAT DO NOT WANT THIS. PEOPLE
DECIDED NOT TO SPEAK UP BECAUSE
THEY ALREADY KNOW IF I
EXPERIENCED IN THE LAST YEAR.
THAT THE LEGISLATOR WON'T LISTEN
TO THEM. THEY HAVE BECOME
APATHETIC TO THE POINT. OF
SAVING THEIR SANITY BY IGNORING
THE INSANITY THAT COMES FROM
SACRAMENTO. UNFORTUNATE FACTS
THAT IGNORING IT WON'T MAKE IT
GO AWAY. I DO WHAT I CAN TO
ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO BECOME MORE
INVOLVED UNDER UNDERSTAND THE
ISSUES. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT
SOME OF THE ISSUES OF THE
SPEAKERS. TALK ABOUT I WORK WITH
ELECTRIC VEHICLES MYSELF AND USE
THEM IN MY OWN JOB. I DON'T KNOW
THEM MYSELF. BUT I DO KNOW THE
EXPERIENCE THAT 10 MINUTES OF
CHARGING WHAT DOES VERY LITTLE
TO CHARGE DEPENDING ON THE
VEHICLE. IT MIGHT MAKE A
DIFFERENCE WITH THE HIGH END
VEHICLE SUCH AS A TESLA WITH
THEIR SUPER POWER CHARGING
INFRASTRUCTURE. AND REGARDING
INDUCTIVE, ELECTRICITY CHARGING
SYSTEMS. THEY'RE VERY EFFICIENT
AND EFFICIENT AS YOU KNOW, FROM
TRYING TO USE ONE WITH YOUR
PHONES. IF YOU HAVE USED ONE
SORRY. WRAP IT UP IN 30 SECONDS.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. UM SO I JUST WANT TO.
I KNOW MY COLLEAGUE HERE HAS TO
CATCH A PLANE. JUST WANT TO
THANK HIM AGAIN FOR COMING DOWN
AND BEING A PART OF THE HEARING
TODAY. THANK ALL OF THE
PANELISTS HERE FOR THE WORK THAT
YOU'RE DOING, AND ALSO WANT TO
GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO MY
LEGISLATIVE DIRECTOR GRAYSON DO
SET WHO DID? REALLY ALL OF THE
WORK ON ALL OF THIS AND OUR TOUR
THAT WE HAD YESTERDAY, WHICH WAS
INCREDIBLY INFORMATIVE FOR US,
UH, AND HAD SOME OTHER
COLLEAGUES WHO WERE ABLE TO JOIN
US AS WELL. UM AND SO, YOU KNOW,
JUST WANNA AGAIN. THANKS CSU
NORTHRIDGE FOR HOSTING US REALLY
HAPPY TO BE HERE AND ENGAGING AT
SUCH A GREAT EDUCATIONAL
INSTITUTION IN MY DISTRICT HERE,
AND YOU KNOW, THIS WAS REALLY I
THINK HELPFUL TO HAVE A FULLER
SENSE OF WHAT OPPORTUNITIES
CURRENTLY EXISTS. THE PROGRAMS
THAT ARE REALLY, YOU KNOW,
ENDEAVORING TO DO GOOD WORK
WHERE IT'S MOST NEEDED. AND UM,
AND SO MANY INNOVATIVE
APPROACHES AND YOU KNOW, I'M
GRATEFUL FOR EVERYONE'S WORK. I
KNOW THIS IS A CHALLENGING TIME
YESTERDAY WHEN WE WERE, YOU
KNOW, SEEING 100 BUSSES OR
SOMETHING BEING BUILT ELECTRIC
BUSSES BEING BUILT AND JUST, YOU
KNOW, MOVED OUT THE DOOR. IT
FEELS A LITTLE BIT LIKE YOUR
JUST TRUSTING THAT THE
INFRASTRUCTURE WILL BE THERE
WHEN THEY MAKE IT TO THEIR ROAD,
AND WE'RE KIND OF BUILDING THE
BOAT AS WE'RE PUSHING OFF FROM
THE DOCK AT THE SAME TIME. TÌM
IT'S SLIGHTLY TERRIFYING AND, UM
, AND IT'S YOU KNOW, IT'S A LOT.
IT'S A LOT OF WORK, AND WE KNOW
THAT IT'S COMPLICATED AND THERE
ARE SO MANY MOVING PIECES BUT
YOU KNOW, BEING ABLE TO GET
WHERE WE NEED TO GO MEANS THAT
PEOPLE CAN GET TO AND FROM WORK.
IT MEANS THAT THEY CAN GET HOME
TO GET THEIR KIDS WHEN THEY NEED
TO. UM AND IT MEANS THAT YOU
KNOW, THEY'RE NOT LIKE I HAVE
BEEN IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS
THINKING ABOUT WHAT IF I HAVE TO
JUST PULL OVER ON THE SIDE OF
THE ROAD AND LEAVE MY CAR
BECAUSE I'M RUNNING OUT OF
CHARGE? UM AND I AND I CAN'T.
THERE'S NO CHARGER WHERE I
NEEDED TO BE IN BETWEEN POINT A
AND POINT B, UM SO YOU KNOW, AND
FOR FOLKS WHO ARE LOW INCOME
THAT MEANS YOU CAN'T AFFORD IF
YOUR CAR GETS TOWED. YOU CAN'T
AFFORD TO GET IT BACK. YOU KNOW,
SO IT'S THERE'S REALLY HIGH. I
THINK RISK HERE FOR PEOPLE WHO,
UM ESPECIALLY YOU DON'T HAVE THE
MEANS TO, YOU KNOW, TO BE ABLE
TO AFFORD SITUATIONS LIKE THAT.
AND YOU KNOW THAT'S THE WORK
THAT I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT
FOR US TO FIGURE OUT AND I THINK
YOU KNOW YOUR POINT. DR RUIZ IS
NOT LOST ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF
PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. YOU KNOW,
I GOT RID OF ONE OF MY CARS. YOU
KNOW OUR FAMILY CAR BECAUSE I
USE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION SO
MUCH WHEN IT WAS ON TIME WHEN IT
WAS CONVENIENT WHEN IT WAS WHERE
I NEEDED IT TO BE. UM AND YOU
KNOW, I KNOW THAT IF WE BUILD
THOSE KINDS OF PUBLIC
TRANSPORTATION SYSTEMS, UM AND I
REALLY APPRECIATE THE INNOVATION
THAT L A IS DOING RIGHT NOW WITH
THE MICRO, UM, KIND OF TRANSIT
SPACES TO HELP DO THAT, BUT I
THINK THAT IF WE IF WE BUILD IT,
THEY WILL COME KIND OF A
SITUATION TO HELP US REALLY MEET
OUR ELECTRIFICATION GOALS AND
MEET THE NEEDS OF FOLKS IN OUR
COMMUNITY, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE
REALLY TRYING TO DO SO AGAIN.
THANK YOU TO EVERYONE. THANK YOU
TO FOLKS WHO CAME AND MADE SURE
THAT THIS WOULD AVAILABLE FOR US
ONLINE AND, UM, APPRECIATE
EVERYONE IN THE AUDIENCE FOR
PARTICIPATING TODAY AND BEING
HERE AND EXCITED TO CONTINUE THE
CONVERSATION AND OFFICIALLY
GAVELED THE MEETING WITH MY
WATER BOTTLE TOP. THANK YOU.