I'M GONNA MISS THE TOUR.
UNFORTUNATELY. DIED SO IF I
COULD ADD, PLEASE ASK EVERYONE
TO PLEASE TAKE YOUR SEATS WE ARE
ABOUT TO GET STARTED. WE TRIED
TO BE VERY TIMELY AND VERY
RESPECTFUL OF EVERYONE'S TIME.
HERE THIS MORNING. I WANT TO SAY
GOOD MORNING AND WELCOME TO THE
THIRD HEARING, BUT THE SELECT
COMMITTEE ON THE PORTS AND GOODS
MOVEMENT I WANT TO CERTAINLY
APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU FOR BEING
HERE. MY COLLEAGUES WHO YOU WILL
HEAR FROM IN A FEW MOMENTS, UM,
BECAUSE OF BECAUSE OF BEING
HERE, AND ALSO THE DEMONSTRATION
IS TO SHOW NOT ONLY OUR SUPPORT
AND WHY THIS IS IMPORTANT, UM,
FOR THE LEVEL OF THE PROSPERITY
FOR THE PORTS. UM I WANT TO
PAUSE FOR A MOMENT FOR MY NOTES
AND THANK THE PORTS OF SAN
FRANCISCO FOR ONE, OPENING UP.
AH YOUR HOME TO US AND ALLOWING
US TO COME IN AND HAVE AND
CONDUCT THIS HEARING AGAIN. I'M
VERY GRATEFUL FOR THAT. THE
SUCCESS OF THE PORTS TRANSLATE
INTO A COMPREHENSIVE MARKET BOTH
NATIONALLY AND GLOBALLY. WE NEED
TO STRIVE TO MEET CALIFORNIA'S
GREEN GAS HOUSE ADMISSION GOALS
WHILE ALSO PRIORITIZING THE WELL
PAYING UNION JOBS THAT THEY
OFFER. DURING OUR FIRST TWO
HEARINGS, WE WERE EDUCATED ON
THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF THE PORTS
AND GOODS MOVEMENT IN THE STATE
OF CALIFORNIA. AND DISCUSSING
THE PROBLEMS THE PORTS FACE.
WHAT HELPS KEEP THEM OPERATING
AND SUSTAINABLE. IT WAS VERY
EXTRAORDINARY FOR ME TO WANT TO
BE ABLE TO SHARE THIS AND I WANT
TO AGAIN. PAUSE AND THANK ONE
SPEAKER ANTHONY RENDON MEREDITH
FOR ONE. FOR CREATING AND ALLOW
ME TO CHAIR AND ALSO FOR OUR
SPEAKER, ROBERT REVIS FOR HIS
COMMITMENT TO CONTINUING ON TO
HAVING THESE DISCUSSIONS, UM AND
MOVING THIS CONVERSATION OUT TO
ALL OF YOU. FOR ME. IT'S VERY
GRATIFYING THAT WE HAVE THESE
KINDS OF VERY ROBUST DISCUSSIONS
. UM AS WE MOVE ON, IS IMPORTANT
FOR US TO UNDERSTAND THE
PERSPECTIVE OF EACH ENTITLED
THAT OPERATES UNDER THE SCOPE OF
THIS INDUSTRY. GOING INTO THIS
HEARING. WE ARE NOW AWARE OF THE
SUBSTANTIAL WORK BEING DONE IN
THIS SPACE, AND IN ALL THE
PARTNERS THAT MAKES UP THIS
INDUSTRY, HOWEVER, FOR US TO
FULLY UNDERSTAND. UM WHAT IT
MEANS TO BE COMMITTED TO THIS
MEETING AND ALSO HERE IN
CALIFORNIA, AND ALSO OBTAINING
ARE GREEN GAS HOUSE EMISSION
GOALS AND OBJECTIVES. WE MUST
MOVE INTO THE DAY'S TOPIC TO
EXEMPT TO EXAMINE CALIFORNIA'S
EXPORTS AND HOW THEY CAN
MAINTAIN THEIR COMPETITIVENESS
AND LET ME UNDERSCORE WHAT I
JUST SAID. THEIR COMPETITIVENESS
IN THE GLOBAL MARKET. FOR
RENEWABLE ENERGY. THE PORTS
EFFORTS TO MOVE TOWARDS A
RENEWABLE ENERGIES MEANING BEING
ABLE TO MAINTAIN COMPETITIVENESS
IN THE MORE EFFICIENT MARKET
SPACE THAT WE'RE IN TODAY. UH
WE, AS A LEGISLATURE HAS A
RESPONSE HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY
TO WORKING IN COOPERATION WITH
INDUSTRY STAKEHOLDERS TO DEVELOP
POLICIES THAT WILL HELP TO HELP
US TO OBTAIN OUR GOALS AND
OBJECTIVES. THE PORTS ARE THE
ECONOMIC ENGINE. LET ME
UNDERSCORE, AND I'LL REPEAT THAT
JUST FOR MY OWN EDIFICATION
SOMETIME IN CASE I MISSED
SOMETHING. WHAT I SAY IT MYSELF.
UM THE PORTS IS THE ECONOMIC
ENGINE OF THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA. WE'RE NOT
DISILLUSIONED. WE ARE VERY CLEAR
OF THOUGHT. UM WHAT THE PORTS IN
CALIFORNIA MEANS TO THE ECONOMIC
VIABILITY OF VIABILITY. UM AND
THE IMPORTANCE OF WHERE WE ARE.
CALIFORNIA IS THE IS THE WORLD'S
FIFTH LARGEST ECONOMY, AND I
KNOW THAT'S DEBATABLE, SOMETIMES
WITH THE FOURTH WITH THE FIFTH
WERE UP THERE. AND THAT'S THE
MOST IMPORTANT THIS SELECT
COMMITTEE. AND THE LEGISLATURE.
ARE TO MAKE IMPACTS AND
MEANINGFUL LEGISLATION THAT WE
HAVE TO FULLY UNDERSTAND THE
SUPPLY CHAIN AND HOW EACH
COMPONENT CAN WORK TOGETHER AND
REINFORCE EACH OTHER TO CREATE A
ROBUST, SUSTAINABLE ECONOMY.
HOWEVER WE ALSO NEED TO FULLY
UNDERSTAND WHY ARE ECONOMY IS
THE FIFTH OR FOURTH WORLD
ECONOMY AND WHAT IT TAKES TO
MAINTAIN THAT SPOT AS WE WORK TO
SWITCH. WHICH TO RENEWABLE
ENERGY SOURCES. TODAY. WE WILL
HEAR. FROM REPRESENTATIVES FROM
OUR LOCAL PORTS, AND I'M EXCITED
CALIFORNIA'S ALSO EXPORTS, THE
INDUSTRY STAKEHOLDERS AND OTHER
EXPERTS TO INFORM THE SELECT
COMMITTEE ON THE EFFECTS AND
BEING MADE AND MAINTAINING THE
COMPETITIVENESS IN CALIFORNIA.
UM EXPORTS BOTH DOMESTICALLY AND
INTERNATIONALLY. I WANT TO THANK
OUR PANEL. FOR THOSE OF YOU. WHO
WILL BE PART OF OUR PATTERN.
WANT TO THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR
BEING HERE AND YOUR ATTENDANCE?
UM IT WAS SHOWS YOUR COMMITMENT
TO WHERE WE NEED TO GO AND WHERE
WE ARE TODAY FOR THOSE IN THE
AUDIENCE. UM I WANTED TO SAY
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING
HERE AND YOUR COMMITMENT FOR
STAYING AND BEING PART OF THIS
VERY ROBUST CONVERSATION. THERE
IS A SPACE FOR YOU ON THIS
AGENDA. UM IS DURING THE PUBLIC
COMMENTS SECTION AND I WANT TO
ALSO SAY THIS THAT UM WE'LL GIVE
TWO MINUTES FOR YOU TO SPEAK,
AND IF YOU HAVE FURTHER
TESTIMONY, MY OFFICE CERTAINLY
ENCOURAGE YOU TO PLEASE WRITE
ADDITIONAL REMARKS AND TEST
ADDITIONAL TESTIMONIES DOWN AND
SUBMIT THOSE BECAUSE WE WANT
YOUR VOICE TO BE PART OF THIS
RECORD. UM AND I WAS HAD
OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO SOME OF
THE EXECUTIVES. A FEW MOMENTS
AGO BEFORE WE STARTED, UM, IN
TERMS OF WHERE WE GOING WITH
THIS CONVERSATION WE'VE HAD.
THIS IS OUR SECOND HEARING. AH
IT IS IMPORTANT AND IT'S
PURPOSEFUL. WE HAVE WE HAD OUR
FIRST HEARING IN LOS ANGELES
WITH THE PORTA LOS ANGELES
OFFICE STAKEHOLDERS THERE. WE
HAVE THIS HEARING TODAY, UM AND
WE WOULD HAVE ACCOMPLISHED THE
GOALS SET OUT. UM, ALSO, WE'RE
GONNA TOUR ALL 12 PORTS. YOU SAY
WE GOT 11 WHERE THERE'S A
PRIVATE PORTS. WE WANT TO
INCLUDE THEM IN THE
CONVERSATION. WE DON'T WANT TO
LEAVE NO ONE LEFT OUT. AND THE
GOAL IS AFTER WE COMPLETE THE
TOURING OF ALL THESE PORTS FOR
US TO GET A VERY HANDS ON, UM IN
DEPTH ON WHAT'S GOING ON IN
TERMS OF BEARS, AND ALL. ALSO
OUR SUCCESSES WERE GOING TO
CHRONICLE ALL OF THIS AND THOSE
WHO ARE WATCHING THOSE WHO ARE
MEMBERS WHO CANNOT MAKE IT.
THEIR STAFFS ARE WATCHING. AND
THEY'RE TAKING NOTES RIGHT
TAKING NOTES, AND WE'RE GONNA
COLLECT THOSE NOTES, AND MY TEAM
IS GOING TO LEAD THAT EFFORT TO
COLLECTING THOSE NOTES. AND FROM
THAT WE'RE GOING TO CHRONICLE
AND CREATE A WHITE PAPER. UM TO
CREATE A ROADMAP IN TERMS OF
WHERE WE NEED TO GO. AND ALSO,
UM, UM, YOU KNOW, ACKNOWLEDGING
ALL OF OUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS,
TRYING TO MAKING SURE THAT WE
ARE, UH, YOU KNOW, A STATE THAT
IS MOVING TOWARDS OUR GOALS AND
OBJECTIVES IN TERMS OF OBTAIN
MINT, SO WE'RE NOT JUST HAVING
MEETINGS TO HAVE MEETINGS? I
DON'T DO THAT TIME IS TOO
PRECIOUS AND WE DON'T HAVE
ENOUGH OF IT. BUT WE ARE DOING
THIS WITH VERY CLEAR THOUGHT
WITH GOALS AND OBJECTIVES IN
MIND TO CAPTURE EVERYONE'S
VOICES. AND THIS WHITE PAPER
WILL BE SUBMITTED TO BOTH HOUSES
THE SENATE AND THE ASSEMBLY AND
ALSO GO TO THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH
TO OUR GOVERNOR TO MAKING SURE
THEY UNDERSTAND THE GOALS AND
OBJECTIVES AND THE BARRIERS. SO
YOUR PARTICIPATION HERE AND THE
PARTICIPATION THAT WE HAD OUR
VERY FIRST HEARING ARE VARIOUS,
PURPOSEFUL AND MEANINGFUL IN
TERMS OF FOR US TO HAVE A
ROADMAP MOVING FORWARD, SO I
JUST WANT EVERYONE TO BE CLEAR
IN TERMS OF THAT WE ARE DOING
THIS WITH CLEAR. THOUGHT I WOULD
ALSO LIKE TO REMIND THOSE IN THE
AUDIENCE. ABOUT THE DECORUM, UM,
OF OUR PUBLIC COMMENTS EACH,
EACH PERSON WILL HAVE A MAXIMUM
OF TWO MINUTES TO EXPRESS YOUR
STATEMENT AGAIN. I'VE MADE
AVAILABLE. UM, PLEASE. SOME, YOU
CAN SUBMIT YOUR TESTIMONY IN
WRITING TO US. UM WE WANT TO
MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE RESPECT
EVERYONE'S OPINION, NORTH
INFLAMMATORY COMMENTS OR
ANYTHING LIKE THAT WILL BE
TOLERATED. UM AND IT ALSO COULD
RESULT IN A PERSON'S FORFEITING
THEIR TIME. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE
THAT WE DO THINGS IN DECENCY AND
ORDER. WE ARE ON A TIGHT
SCHEDULE. UM WE WANT TO TRY TO
CONCLUDE BY TWO O'CLOCK. PM
AGAIN. IF YOU NEED TO SUBMIT
TESTIMONIES, WE WILL MAKE THAT
AVAILABLE TO YOU BEFORE WE BEGIN
. I WANT TO RECOGNIZE MY
COLLEAGUES HAVE TAKEN TIME OUT
OF THEIR BUSINESS SCHEDULE TO
JOIN US THIS MORNING. UM AND I
WANT TO START OFF WITH MY RIGHT
TO HAVE ASSEMBLYWOMAN ME A BOND
TO SAY A FEW WORDS AND TALK
ABOUT HER DISTRICT. AND THEN I
WOULD SURVIVE CHAIR MR FONG FOR
DOING THE SAME. SO WITH THAT I
WANT TO PAUSE. MISS BARTER,
PLEASE. THANK YOU SO MUCH CHAIR
AND I'M VERY EXCITED TO CONTINUE
TO PARTICIPATE ON THE SELECT
COMMITTEE ON PORTS AND GOODS
MOVEMENTS. I'M ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
MIA BONTA. I REPRESENT THE
CITIES OF OAKLAND, ALAMEDA AND
EMERYVILLE. THE COURT OF OAKLAND
IS VERY CRUCIAL TO NOT ONLY THE
CITY OF OAKLAND, BUT QUITE
FRANKLY, THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA
AND THIS COUNTRY. IT IS LARGELY
RESPONSIBLE FOR GOODS MOVEMENT,
UH, THAT ENSURES THAT WE HAVE A
STRONG ECONOMIC ENGINE
THROUGHOUT THIS THROUGHOUT THE
STATE, SO I'M VERY THANKFUL TO
BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO
PARTICIPATE IN THIS, UH, ON THE
SELECT COMMITTEE. OF COURSE, WE
WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE
ADDRESSING ISSUES RELATED TO
MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE A
STRONG WORKFORCE ASSOCIATED WITH
ALL OF OUR OUR GOODS, MOVEMENT
AND PORT ACTIVITIES THAT WE HAVE
STRONG INDUSTRY ABLE TO BE ABLE
TO HAVE THE CONTRACTS AND
OPPORTUNITIES TO ENGAGE IN
IMPORT AND EXPORT AT THE LEVEL
OF VOLUME THAT FULLY MAXIMIZES
THE CAPACITY OF THE PORTS OF
OAKLAND, AND ALSO THAT WE ARE
ATTENTIVE TO THE SURROUNDING
COMMUNITIES AND ADDRESSING THE,
UH THE ISSUES RELATED TO
ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE AND
CLIMATE ACTION THAT WE NEED TO
ATTEND TO. AS WE HAVE IN THE
INSTANCE OF OAKLAND STRONG
INDUSTRY NESTLED WITHIN AND NEAR
, UH, WITH WITHIN COMMUNITIES
THAT HAVE OFTEN BEEN DISPLACED
AND DISENFRANCHISED, SO I'M VERY
EXCITED TO BE PARTICIPATING IN
THIS AND I KNOW THAT WE WILL
COVER MANY OF THESE ISSUES AS WE
ADDRESS THE MARITIME INDUSTRY.
THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA, BUT VERY PROUD TO
HAVE OAKLAND BE SUCH AN AMAZING
CONTRIBUTOR TO, UH TO OUR
ECONOMY IN THIS WAY. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. AND WE HAVE THIS
AMAZING VIEW. I'M GONNA TRY TO
STAY FOCUSED. UM NEXT UP. WE
HAVE LIKED MY VICE CHAIR, MR
VINCE FONG, REPRESENTING THE
32ND ASSEMBLY DISTRICT TO HAVE A
FEW COMMENTS. THANK YOU, MR
CHAIR. IT'S HONORED TO BE HERE.
THANK YOU TO THE PORT OF SAN
FRANCISCO FOR HOSTING US A
BEAUTIFUL DAY. UM CERTAINLY, UH,
YOU KNOW, COMMITTED TO WORKING
WITH OUR CHAIR IN, OF COURSE,
VISITING ALL THE PORTS, BUT ALSO
TO DEVELOP A PLAN TO REALLY, UM
YOU KNOW, ALLOW OUR PORTS TO
OPERATE MORE EFFICIENTLY. TO
BEGIN TO MAKE MORE INVESTMENTS
IN OUR PORTS. I THINK THAT'S
CRITICAL AS MY COLLEAGUE FROM
OAKLAND SAID THAT OUR PORTS OUR
OUR, OUR, OUR FOUNDATION OF OUR
ECONOMIC OPERATIONS. THE WAY WE
MOVE GOODS AROUND THE STATE IS
RELIANT ON OUR PORCH AND OUR
INFRASTRUCTURE AND THEIR
OPERATIONS. AND SO THIS IS A
CRITICAL ISSUE. IT DOESN'T GET A
LOT OF ATTENTION, BUT OUR SUPPLY
CHAIN IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED
TO BE FOCUSING ON, ESPECIALLY
LEARNING THE LESSONS FROM THE
PANDEMIC AND ALSO WANT TO THANK
THE CHAIR FOR HIS FOCUS ON
AGRICULTURE, SOMEONE WHO
REPRESENTS CURRENT SALARY
COUNTIES, WHICH IS, UH TWO OF
THE TOP THREE, YOU KNOW,
PRODUCING CANDIDATE TOP ACT
PRODUCING COUNTIES IN CALIFORNIA
. UM WE FOCUS A LOT ON IMPORTS,
BUT OUR EXPORTS ARE CRITICALLY
CRITICALLY IMPORTANT. AND SO THE
FACT THAT WE HAVE A PANEL THAT
GO HIGHLIGHT THAT WAS CERTAINLY
APPRECIATE THAT FOCUS. SO THANK
YOU, MR CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. UM WE WILL BE EXPECTING
ONE OF OUR COLLEAGUES TO JOIN US
. AND THAT IS ASSEMBLYWOMAN
DIANE PAPPAS, WHO WOULD BE HERE
REPRESENTING, UM, THE REDWOOD
CITY, SO WE EXPECT HER
MOMENTARILY. I JUST WANT TO READ
FOR YOUR EDIFICATION. THE SELECT
COMMITTEE MEMBERS, SOME AGAIN
WHO ARE HERE, AND SOME WISH THEY
COULD BE HERE. BUT BECAUSE OF
SCHEDULING CONFLICTS, THEY WERE
NOT BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT
THAT WE HIGHLIGHT ELEVATE THOSE
INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE COMMITTED TO
THIS COMMITTEE. WE HAVE. WE
HAVE, UM ASSEMBLYWOMAN UM
CECILIA AGUIAR-CURRY,
REPRESENTING THE FOURTH DISTRICT
. WE HAVE ASSEMBLYWOMAN TASHA
BURNER REPRESENTING, UM, THE
77TH DISTRICT. WE HAVE JOSH
LOWENTHAL, REPRESENTING THE 69TH
DISTRICT. WE HAVE ELOISE GOMEZ
REYES REPRESENTATIVES, THE 50
ASSEMBLY DISTRICT. WE HAVE
CARLOS BUMIPUTRA, REPRESENTING
THE 13TH DISTRICT AND LORI LARA
LORI WILSON REPRESENT THE 11TH
DISTRICT. AND ALSO DR JIM WOODS,
REPRESENTING THE SECOND DISTRICT
THAT THOSE ARE ALL INDIVIDUALS
WHO MAKES UP THE SELECT
COMMITTEE. UM AND THEIR TEAMS
AGAIN WATCHING AND TAKING NOTES
SO YOU CAN CORRESPOND WITH THOSE
MEMBERS, UM AND SHARE WITH THEM
YOUR THOUGHTS, SO WITH THAT I
WANT TO INVITE OUR FIRST PANEL
UP AND WE'LL ASK HIM TO PLEASE
COME AND TAKE A SEAT. YOU KNOW
WHO YOU ARE. WE WILL GO IN THE
ORDER THAT'S PRESENTED ON THE
AGENDA. AND AGAIN TO THE
COMMISSIONERS OF THE PORTS OF
SAN FRANCISCO. WE THANK YOU FOR
AGAIN ALLOWING US AND BEING A
HOST TO ALL OF US HERE. UM WE'RE
GONNA START OFF WITH THE FIRST
PERSON. WHICH IS MR DANNY. UH
WAYNE ZEC, DIRECTOR OF THE PORTS
OF OAKLAND, WHO WILL BE THE
FIRST PRESENTER AND ALL OF OUR
PANELISTS. WE HAVE 6 TO 8
MINUTES. UM I HAVE A TIMER. JUST
AND IT ALARM. UM UM JUST LET YOU
KNOW AND WE'LL DO THAT THE SIX
MINUTE AND THEN WE'LL DO IT AT
THE EIGHT MINUTES AND THEN I'LL
BE LIKE LOOKING AT YOU KIND OF
CRAZY, LIKE WRAP IT UP SO THAT
WE CAN STAY ON TASK. AND SO
AGAIN, WE WANT TO INVITE. UM
DANNY. THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH
FOR BEING HERE. UM AND YOU ARE
WELL REPRESENTED BY OUR
COLLEAGUE, MS BONTA, WHO SAYS I
WANT TO BE ON THIS COMMITTEE?
AND TO REPRESENT MY CONSTITUENTS
. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND
PLEASE TAKE IT AWAY. YOU HAVE
BETWEEN 6 TO 8 MINUTES AND THIS
FLOOR'S YOURS CHAIR. THANK YOU.
OKAY YOU CAN HEAR ME NOW. THANK
YOU FOR COMING UP TO THE BAY.
AND WE WELCOME YOU TO, UH TO, UH
, BEAUTIFUL SCENERY UP HERE. UM
I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF
OVERVIEW OF THE PORTA VOCAL
UNDE. AND THEN, UM, JUST SOME
POINTS OF HOW WHAT WE CAN WORK
ON FOR THE FUTURE. AND, UH, WE
CERTAINLY AVAILABLE FOR
QUESTIONS AND ANSWER SO PORTABLE
OAKLAND, UH, WHERE ARE ACTUALLY
KIND OF UNIQUE? THE PORTABLE
CANNOT ONLY RUNS A SEAPORT. BUT
WE ALSO IS FRANKLY, THE
WATERFRONT AGENCY OF THE CITY
OAKLAND. WE MANAGE ABOUT 20
MILES OF WATERFRONT FOR THE
CITY. AND THEN WE ALSO RUN THE
OAKLAND INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT.
SO WE ARE, UM, FRANKLY, THE
PLACE WHERE PLANES, TRUCKS,
TRAINS, SHIPS AND EVERYBODY COME
TO THE PORTS AND TO HAVE BOTH
COMMERCE AND RECREATION AND
TRAVEL TAKEN CARE OF THROUGH THE
EAST BAY. THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF
THE PORTER VOCAL AND WERE YOU
SIMPLY JUST DID A STUDY AND TO
YOUR POINT CHAIR AND THE
COMMITTEE? UH WE CREATE THE
PORTABLE OAKLAND AND ITS
SUBSIDIARY TENANTS AND OUR
CORPORATE COOPERATING. AH
BUSINESSES CREATE ABOUT 98,000
JOBS IN TOTAL. AND WE ARE WE
CONTRIBUTE ABOUT $970 MILLION OF
STATE AND LOCAL TAXES GENERATED
FROM THOSE BUSINESSES BECAUSE
THE POETS EXISTENCE AND ALSO WE,
IF YOU ADD UP ALL THE PERSONAL
INCOME AND THE CONTRACTS AND THE
AND THE MONEY THAT PASSES
THROUGH THE TRANSACTIONS CREATED
BY REPORT, IT ADDS UP TO ABOUT
$7.6 BILLION IN 2022. THE
SEAPORT ITSELF. WE ARE, UM WE
HAVE FOUR MAJOR CONTAINER
TERMINALS TO CLASS ONE RAILROADS
THAT U P AND BNSF. AND WE HAVE
MODERN CLASSIC INDUSTRIAL
WAREHOUSING SPACE CURRENTLY, AS
YOU LOOK AT IT. OUR BIGGEST
TENANT IS S S A T, WHICH IS THE
TERMINAL OPERATOR AND WE HAVE
SPACE. WE HAVE CAPACITY AND THIS
IS WHY WE JOINED THE PANDEMIC.
WE WERE LIKE, UH, THIS CONGESTED
YET WE HAVE SPACE THAT WE NEED
TO DEVELOP AN INVESTMENT SO WE
CAN ACTIVATE THIS SPACE 120
ACRES AS YOU LOOK AT THE MAP.
THE YELLOW PART IS THE OUTER
HARBOR 120 ACRES THAT WE COULD
ACTIVATE AS NEW TERMINAL SPACE.
THAT'S 50 FT. DEEP AND CERTAINLY
THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO DO
BEFORE WE GET ANOTHER CONGESTION
SO THAT WE HAVE, WE DON'T
ACTUALLY GET THERE AGAIN. UH THE
PORT OF OAKLAND IS SOME UNIQUE.
ALSO MANY OTHER RESPECTS, UH TO
COMMITTEE. AH FONDS BY SHARE
FUNDS. UH, POINT. UH, A PORT OF
OAKLAND IS UNIQUE IN THAT CENTER
WHERE 50 IMPORT 50% EXPORT. MANY
OF THE OTHER PORTS IN CALIFORNIA
ARE MAINLY IMPORT PORTS WERE 50%
EXPORT, AND WE PRIDE OURSELVES
IN THAT WE ARE THE PRIMARY
AGRICULTURAL EXPORT PORTS FOR
CALIFORNIA WERE THE CLOSEST TO
THE CENTRAL VALLEY AND SOME OF
THE AND THEN THE RAILROAD AND
TRUCK CONNECTIONS. TO THE TO THE
PORTS. WE TAKE CARE OF THAT
RELATIONSHIP. WE COMMUNICATE
OFTEN WITH THE AG INDUSTRY WHEN
I MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE TAKEN
CARE OF. NOT AS WHY, UH, PART OF
THE REASON THAT THEY COMMITTEES
FOREIGNERS BECAUSE WE HEARD A
LOT FROM THE COMMUNITY, JONAH
CONGESTION THAT THEIR NEEDS WERE
NOT TAKEN CARE OF, AND WE NEED
TO BE MORE RESILIENT INTERESTS
OF TAKING CARE OF EXPORTERS AND
THEIR NEEDS JOIN AH, AND
BUILDING INFRASTRUCTURE FOR
THEM. SO HOW ARE WE PLANNING FOR
THE FUTURE? LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE
THE CAPACITY TO GROW SUSTAINABLY
. WE ARE ONE OF THE PROJECTS
WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE WIDELY A 20
BASIN. UM IF YOU GO BACK, DO YOU
SEE THAT? VERY LOWER RIGHT HAND
CORNER OUR SHIPS THAT YOU COME
TO THAT CHANNEL AND THEY TURN
AROUND AND THEY GO BACK. AND
THEN SHE SHIPS GET BIGGER. WE
NEED TO HAVE THAT TURNING BASIN
WIDENED, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE
MAJOR PROJECTS WORKING ON AND,
UH, WE ALSO WORKING ON HIS
PROJECTS THAT, UH, THAT ARE
WIDENING OUR ROADWAYS TO MAKE
SURE THERE'S ACCESS SUPPORT IS
ACCESSIBLE. NEXT SLIDE SHOWS ONE
OF OUR, UH, LATEST AND MOST
PROUD EFFORTS IS THAT WE ARE
CONVERTING OUR PORTS TO A ZERO
MISSION SUPPORT. AND IF YOU LOOK
AT THAT MAP, THAT'S ALL THE
PROJECTS ONGOING RIGHT NOW. FOR
THAT CONVERSION EFFORTS, IT RUNS
EVERYTHING FROM HYDROGEN TO
ELECTRICITY. ONE OR THE OTHER.
YOU THE UNIQUE THINGS ABOUT THE
PUERTO VULCANS THAT WE ARE
ACTUALLY ELECTRIC UTILITY. WE
PURCHASED OUR OWN POWER. WE SELL
POWER. WE HAVE THE CAPACITY TO
EXPAND THE ELECTRIC UTILITY. AND
I DESCRIBE OUR EFFORTS AS
EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE ALL AT
ONCE. IF YOU KNOW THAT MOVIE
THAT REFERRING TO AND THAT IS,
AH, SEE WHICH THESE TECHNOLOGIES
WORK FOR US, AND TO BE FRANK.
SOME OF THE TECHNOLOGIES TO
INVESTING TODAY MAY NOT WORK,
BUT WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT
WHAT IS BEST OUR TENANTS IN A
VARIETY OF APPROACHES. SO UH,
TURNING BASIN WIDENING STUDY IS
WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW. IS
THAT DESCRIBED? UH THIS IS THE
SEVENTH STREET GRAY SEPARATION
EAST. WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE
THAT THEIR TRUCKS HAVE THEIR
ACCESS ROUTES. AND THEN WE'RE
POWERING FOR THE FUTURE. MANY
GRANTS THAT WE'RE GETTING NOW IS
MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE OUR
SHORT POWER SYSTEM DOWN PACKED
INSTEAD OF JUST PLACING THEM
PLACE WE HAVE IT TO ACCOMMODATE
THE BIGGER SHIPS. UH WE ARE ALSO
USING A BIOMASS POWER GENERATOR
TO GENERATE HYDROGEN. WE'RE
GOING TO HAVE THE BIGGEST
HYDROGEN FUELING STATION IN
CALIFORNIA, LOCATED RIGHT NEXT
TO THE PORTS. FOR THE TRUCKS TO
BE ABLE TO DO THEIR FEELING.
WHAT HYDROGEN WE'RE ALSO DOING
AH, DEVELOPMENT OF A HARDER
OUTER HARBOR, AS I DESCRIBED AND
, UH, SO THAT IS THE AND JUST BY
THE WAY, THIS CHART SHOWS YOU
THE IMPACT THAT YOU AND THE
COMMITTEE AND THE STATE IS
HAVING THE GRAND. STILL WE'RE
GETTING AND ALL THE CALIFORNIA
PORTS IS, IN FACT STIMULATING
ZERO MOTION TRANSMISSION,
ESPECIALLY WITH THE $1.2 BILLION
. THE GOVERNOR AND THE ASSEMBLY,
AND THEY JUST SAID YOUR PAST FOR
THE PORTS AND THE LAST FISCAL
YEAR IS PUT INTO GOOD USE RIGHT
NOW IN AMONG THAT LIST. IS THE
GRANT THAT WE'RE GETTING UNDER
THE P 50. TAKEAWAYS SUPPORT IS
COMMITTED TO GROWING SUSTAINABLY
, AND I THINK NO DOOR IN
CALIFORNIA AND CALIFORNIA PORTS
WILL LEAD THE WAY I WAS JUST
RELEASED AT THE CONFERENCE FOR
THE AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF PORT
AUTHORITIES. AND NOT TO TELL YOU
THE CONVERSATION. THERE IS ABOUT
WHAT CALIFORNIA IS DOING WHAT
CALIFORNIA PORTS IS DOING. AND
I'M PROUD TO SAY THAT THE
AMERICAN ASSOCIATION POUR
AUTHORITIES HAVE SAID, WELL,
CALIFORNIA IS DOING ALL THIS. WE
BETTER GET ON WITH IT. WE BETTER
CATCH ON TO CATCH THE TRAIN
BEFORE IT LEAVES THE STATION,
AND THAT IS THE EFFECT THAT
WE'RE HAVING, AND WE ARE TALKING
TO THE BITE ADMINISTRATION WITH
YOUR HELP, AND WITH THE STATE
WE'VE GONE WITH SECRETARY ALMOST
SHAKEN CALTRANS SECRETARY WENT
TO WASHINGTON TO SAY CALIFORNIA
IS LEADING THE WAY AND WHEN YOU
GIVE OUT THOSE GRANTS FOR THE
INFRASTRUCTURE, YOU SHOULD NOT
LEAVE THE BUS BEHIND US, BECAUSE
WE'RE AHEAD OF THE GAME DOES NOT
MEAN THAT YOU DON'T DESERVE THAT
MONEY TO GO IN THE NEXT STEP,
RATHER THAN FUNDING HIM, THE
BASIC STUFF THAT THE STATE AND
OTHER STATES ARE DOING. BUT
THAT'S NOT TO SAY THE OTHER
STATES ARE NOT BEING
COMPETITIVE. WE ALSO MET WITH
THE PORTER, GEORGIA, WHICH IS
LEFT LEAPT BOUNDS AHEAD IN TERMS
OF THEIR POST PLACE IN THIS, AND
THEY AND THE MARKET SHARE AND
THEY'RE EXPANDING LIKE CRAZY,
AND THEY'RE ALSO CATCHING ONTO
THE HYDROGEN ELECTRICAL ELECTRIC
TRANSMISSION AND TRANSITION. UM
AH, TREND SO WE ARE. WE SHOULD
NOT BE LAYING ON LAURA'S
THINKING. WE'RE AHEAD OF THE
GAME. THEREFORE WE'RE GOING TO
BE AHEAD. IN FACT, GEORGIA
VIRGINIA THOSE ARE STATE
SPONSORED PORTS. AND THEY ARE
PLANNING AND THEY'RE EXPANDING.
THEY HAVE SPACE. AND UH AND I
MUST SAY THAT PORT OF OAKLAND,
UH, 10 YEARS AGO WITH THE FOURTH
LARGEST PORTION TERMS OF
CONTAINER VOLUME, UH, IN THE
COUNTRY NOW WITH THE 10TH. THERE
ARE MANY REASONS FOR THAT, BUT
CERTAINLY TODAY WE NEED TO BE
LEADING THE WAY INTO ZERO
TRANSITION AND AT THE SAME TIME
INVESTING A PORCH INFRASTRUCTURE
TO MAKE SURE WE KEEP THAT PLACE
AND LEADING TO THAT TO THE NEXT
POINT, WHICH IS THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA. LIKE I MENTIONED
GEORGIA AND VIRGINIA ARE STATE
PORTS. THEY ACTUALLY PLAN ON
STATEWIDE BASIS HOW TO SUPPORT
THOSE PORTS, AND THEY VOLUME
THAT GO THROUGH THOSE PORTS THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA NEEDS TO
ADOPT A STATEWIDE FOR A POLICY.
I'LL TELL YOU WHAT CONCRETE
EXAMPLES JUST ONE AS WE DEVELOP
HIS HYDROGEN TRUCK'S THEY'RE
HEAVY. WE NEED OVERWEIGHT
QUARTERS ARE FREE WAYS TO
COORDINATE THAT FRUIT TRANSITION
BY THESE ZERO MISSION TRUCKS AND
VEHICLES. THAT'S ONE EXAMPLE
WHERE THE STATEWIDE FREIGHT
POLICY WILL HELP HOW WE KIND OF
COORDINATE THIS KIND OF EFFORTS.
THE OTHER ONE IS AS WE INVEST IN
THE PORTS. WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT
WHICH PART IS DRAWING WHAT, LIKE
I SAID PORT OF OAKLAND IS DRAWN
IN AGRICULTURE. WE HAVE TO
RAILROAD. WE ALSO DO WHERE
LEADING AND FROZEN PRODUCTS
EXPORT. WE NEED TO ASK THE STATE
OF CALIFORNIA FIGURE OUT WHERE
TO INVEST IN TERMS OF
STRENGTHENING THOSE EACH PORTS,
UNIQUE PERSPECTIVE AND UNIQUE
STRENGTH SO THAT WE HAVE A
ACCORDING TO A STATEWIDE POLICY.
THAT'S HOW ENCOURAGED SHARE THAT
YOU'RE GONNA DO A WHITE PAPER
AFTER YOUR HEARING. BECAUSE
BASED ON THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE
NEED TO DEVELOP A STATEWIDE POOR
POLICY. I THINK I WAS STOPPED
THERE. UM AND BE AVAILABLE TO
DRESS IN REAL QUESTIONS. I HEAR
YOU'RE RINGING OVER THERE, SO I
WILL STOP. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND WE WILL
BE HAVING QUESTIONS FROM THE
COMMITTEE AFTER THE CONCLUSION
OF THE OF ALL THE PRESENTATIONS
BY THE PANEL, SO NEXT UP, WE
WILL HAVE THE POOR. UM ELAINE
FORBES, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF
THE PORTA SAN FRANCISCO THANK
YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR BEING OUR
HOST AND BEING WITH US THIS
MORNING, YOU'RE MOST WELCOME.
GOOD MORNING, ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
GIBSON, BONTA AND FANG AND AGAIN
WELCOME TO SAN FRANCISCO. WE
HAVE PERFECT CONDITIONS TODAY
FOR YOU AND YOU WILL BE GIVEN A
TOUR AT TWO PM FROM MY
UNDERSTANDING SO AND WE EXPECT
THE CONDITIONS TO CONTINUE. I'D
LIKE TO AMPLIFY SOMETHING THAT%
DANNY SAID, WHICH IS WE NEED TO
UNDERSTAND THE COMPETITIVE
ADVANTAGES AND WHAT PORTS DO
WELL, SO WE COMPLEMENT ONE
ANOTHER AND COMING OUT OF THE
PANDEMIC. THAT WAS CERTAINLY
SOMETHING THAT WE DID IN RAPID
FASHION REPORT OF SAN FRANCISCO
IS A 7.5 MILES OF WATERFRONT
PROPERTY FROM HYDE STREET PIER
NEAR AQUATIC PARK ALL THE WAY
DOWN TO HERON'S HEAD PARK. YOU
WERE SITTING IN A FACILITY THAT
IS MANAGING THAT HAS A GROUND
LEASE FOR THE PORTA SAN
FRANCISCO. UM WE HAVE VERY
UNIQUE BUSINESS LINES. YOU COULD
YOU KNOW ALL THE BIG ONES, THE
GIANTS BALLPARK PIER 39
FISHERMAN'S WHARF, THE FERRY
BUILDING. WE ALSO HAVE THE BAR
PILOTS HERE WE HAVE TO UH,
COMMERCIAL. WE HAVE A COMMERCIAL
FISHING FLEET. UM, WE HAVE LOTS
OF PASSENGER MOVING THINGS FROM
CRUISE SHIPS TO FERRIES TO
EXCURSIONS. WE HAVE CARGO IN THE
SOUTH, AND THAT'S WHERE WE SEE A
LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR GROWTH
AND INTENSIVE EDUCATION OF OUR
CARGO FACILITIES, INCLUDING
CLIMATE THINGS LIKE OFFSHORE
WIND. ALSO AS DANNY HAS SAID,
WE'RE INTERESTED IN HYDROGEN AND
PROVIDING FUELING AS WELL AS
ELECTRIFICATION OF OUR TRUCK
FLEETS AND OUR FERRIES. SUPPORT
OF SAN FRANCISCO IS A PORTS CITY
. WE WERE BUILT OUT ORIGINALLY
AS SUPPORT CITY ARE SEA WALL,
WHICH WAS BUILT OVER 40 YEARS.
UM PROVIDES FLOOD PROTECTION TO
500 ACRES OF OUR CITY AND
PROVIDES FLOOD PROTECTION TO THE
MAJOR TRANSPORTATION SYSTEMS,
THE UTILITIES SO WE ARE VERY
MUCH I WANT TO SPEND MY TIME TO
TALK ABOUT CLIMATE AND
RESILIENCE. UM WE ARE VERY MUCH
ON THE FOREFRONT OF THAT ISSUE.
YOU ARE SITTING IN THE FERRY
BUILDING. IT'S ONE OF THE MOST
ICONIC STRUCTURES IN THE NATION
AND IS AT RISK TO SEISMIC AND
FLOOD RISKS. WE MADE. WE WILL
NEED TO RAISE THIS BUILDING 7 FT
TO BRING IT INTO THE NEXT
GENERATION. WE UM NOWHERE AHEAD
ON THIS GIVEN OUR URBAN EDGE,
BUT WE KNOW OTHER PORTS ARE
GOING TO FACE MAJOR CHALLENGES
WITH CLIMATE. WE'RE WORKING WITH
THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS ON A
WAY TO PROVIDE FLOOD PROTECTION
TO THIS AREA. I WANT THIS
COMMITTEE TO BE AWARE THIS IS AN
EMERGING AND ONGOING PROBLEM AND
SOMETHING WE MUST TACKLE FOR THE
PORTS. ALSO LIKE TO SPEAK TO YOU
ABOUT THE ISSUE OF LEVERAGE AS
WE COME OUT OF PANDEMIC AND WORK
ON THINGS LIKE ECONOMIC RECOVERY
AND EQUITY AND RESILIENCE.
COMING TOGETHER AND WORKING
TOWARD COMMON GOALS AND IN
ORGANIZATIONS SUCH AS THE
CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION REPORT,
AUTHORITIES AND HAVING THIS
COMMITTEE HEARING TODAY REALLY
ALLOWS US TO ALL UNDERSTAND WHAT
WE'RE PULLING FOR AND HOW WE FIT
IN THE STATE'S ECONOMY AND WHERE
WE NEED OUR INVESTMENTS IN SAN
FRANCISCO, OBVIOUSLY, THE
CLIMATE ISSUE AND HOW TO PREPARE
FOR SEA LEVEL RISES IS FRONT AND
CENTER. WE'RE ALSO WORKING
REALLY HARD ON EQUITY. WE WANT
TO BE A PORTS THAT WE HAVE 24
MILLION PEOPLE COMING HERE. WE
HAVE A LOT OF ECONOMIC
OPPORTUNITIES. WE WANT TO BE A
PORTS WHOSE TENANTS HAVE
DIVERSITY IN TERMS OF BUSINESS
OWNERSHIP AND WORKFORCE. WE WANT
TO WELCOME DIVERSE COMMUNITIES
TO THIS PORTS, AND WE WANT TO
SEE OUR PORTS BUILT BACK BETTER
AS WE COME OUT OF OUR PANDEMIC
WITH MORE DIVERSITY AND
RESILIENCE. UM SO I WANT TO
THANK MY TEAM FOR WORKING SO
HARD TO MAKE THIS DAY HAPPEN
THERE IN THE AUDIENCE, BORIS
DELLA PINE AND DOMINICK MARINO
AND AS I SAID, I HOPE YOU ENJOY
OUR BEAUTIFUL WATERFRONT TODAY
AND ENJOY THE TOUR AND THANK
YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE
REALLY APPRECIATE I LIKE THAT
THEME, BUILD BACK BETTER. UM SO
THANK YOU VERY MUCH NEXT. JASON
UM I DON'T WANT TO PUT YOUR LAST
NAME SO PLEASE. GOOD MORNING.
JASON CONTENDER WITH THE PORTER
STOCKTON. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
FOR BEING HERE AND PLEASE
PROCEED. WHICH YOUR TESTIMONY
THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU
COLLECTIVELY FOR YOUR CONTINUED
TO MAKE SURE THE GREEN BUTTON IS
ON THE MICROPHONE. THANK YOU.
AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR
COLLECTIVE EFFORTS AND RAISING
AWARENESS OF PORTS AND GOOD MOVE
GOODS MOVEMENTS, AND I'D LIKE TO
COVER A LITTLE BIT JUST TO
HIGHLIGHT THE PORTER STOCKTON
AND THEN ULTIMATELY GET WHERE
WE'RE AT NOW AND HOW WE SEE
OURSELF. OURSELVES CONTRIBUTING
TO SUPPLY CHAIN. UM SO THE
PORTER STOCKTON, WHERE ONE OF 11
CALIFORNIA PUBLIC PORTS WE ARE
BY NATURE OF TONNAGE. THROUGHPUT
NUMBER FIVE TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE
BIT OF CONTEXT, AND WE ARE
UNIQUE IN THE FACT THAT WE ARE
LOCATED. WE'RE NOT AT COASTAL
PORTS. WE ARE IN INLAND PORTS.
SO WE'RE LOCATED 75 MILES
APPROXIMATELY EAST OF SAN
FRANCISCO. SO TO ACCESS THE
PORTS. SHIPS TRAVEL THROUGH OUR
RIVER SYSTEM. SPECIFICALLY THE
SAN JOAQUIN RIVER AND THROUGH
THIS AND WORKING RIVER VESSELS
ACCESS TO IN FRONT OF THE
POOREST ACTON. THE PART OPERATES
ON ABOUT 2000 ACRES, HAS
APPROXIMATELY 100 AND 50
TENANTS, A MAJORITY OF WHICH,
WHO ARE ENGAGED DOMESTIC AND
INTERNATIONAL WATERBORNE
COMMERCE. WE CURRENTLY DO NOT
HANDLE CONTAINERS. IT'S A IT'S
AN OPPORTUNITY SECTOR FOR US AND
AS MY FELLOW COLLEAGUES
REPRESENTED, WE ALL HAVE OUR
STRONG STRONG NICHES. AND I
BELIEVE THAT SOMEDAY IT WILL
MAKE SENSE FROM A FROM A
TRANSPORT ECONOMICS PERSPECTIVE%
FOR CONTAINERS TO BE AT THE
PARTY STOCKMAN, SO THAT'S MORE
OF A MEDIUM LONGER TERM GOAL.
RATHER SO WE'RE NOT A COMMUTER
REPORT. WE DO. WE DO HANDLE BULK
AND BREAK BULK PRODUCTS OR
COMMODITIES PORTFOLIO CONSIST OF
FERTILIZERS, RICE, UM, CEMENT
STRUCTURAL STEEL PRODUCTS. WE
HAD A STRONG CONNECTION TO LOCAL
AG IN THE CENTRAL VALLEY AND
THAT OVER 90% OF THE FERTILIZER
USED FOR THE AGRICULTURE
INDUSTRY HAS IMPORTED THROUGH
THE PORT OF STOCKTON. THIS YEAR
WE CELEBRATED OUR 90TH
ANNIVERSARY. SO AS WE LOOK
TERRORISTS FUTURE KIND OF WITH
THE GOALPOSTS BEING RESILIENT,
EFFICIENT, SUSTAINABLE SUPPLY
CHAIN FOR US IT POINTS TO
INFRASTRUCTURE THAT POINTS TO
CONTINUING TO PROGRESS, OUR
EFFORTS AND ZERO NEAR ZERO
EMISSION OPERATIONS AND THE WORK
FIRST DEVELOPMENT PIECE AS WELL.
RECENTLY THE COURT WAS
SUCCESSFUL IN SECURING $45
MILLION THROUGH CALCIUM. FUNDING
OPPORTUNITY. THAT COUPLED WITH
THE RECENT, UM AWARD THROUGH CTC
, WE IT WILL SUPPORT A $90
MILLION.90 MILLION DOLLAR RAIL
INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT AT THE
PORTS THAT WHEN DELIVERED AND
WHEN FINISHED, WILL IMPROVE.
EFFICIENCIES AND GOODS MOVEMENT.
ON THE NEW ZERO AND ZERO
EMISSION. EFFORT. THROUGH
FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES FROM THE
CALIFORNIA RIVERSIDE BOARD. WE
WERE ABLE TO TRANSITION
APPROXIMATELY 60% OF OUR CARGO
HANDLING. EQUIPMENT TO ZERO
EMISSION. USE YOUR OWN MISSION.
SO THESE ARE ALL SORT OF THE
BEGINNINGS FOR US. THERE'S A LOT
MORE WORK TO DO. AND WHEN WE
LOOK AT JUST THE PHASE, WE'RE IN
KNOWLEDGE, JUST GENERAL PLANNING
. ONE THING IS CLEAR, AND THAT'S
THE NEED FOR CONSISTENT FUNDING
SOURCES TO HELP OUR PORTS
PROGRESS. AND WITH THAT HAPPY TO
TAKE ANY QUESTIONS AT SOME POINT
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE HAVE A
LOT OF TIME TO SPARE. SO
APPRECIATE YOUR TESTIMONIES. I
WANT TO PAUSE FOR A MOMENT AND
RECOGNIZE AND ALLOW MY COLLEAGUE
SIMILAR WOMAN HAPPENS TO SAY A
FEW OPENING REMARKS BECAUSE THE
NEXT PERSON THAT WILL BE COMING
UP AS MISS AS ORTMANN
REPRESENTING REDWOOD CITY, SO
PLEASE THE EVER LATE AND I AM
HAFEN. YOU HEAR THE LEAST
DISTANCE TO COME, APOLOGIZE, MR
CHAIR AND THE FOLKS THAT ARE
HERE, SO I REPRESENT SAN MATEO
COUNTY, MOST OF SAN MATEO COUNTY
FROM BRISBANE, DOWN TO EAST PALO
ALTO, ALL ON THE EASTERN SIDE OF
THE PENINSULA, WHICH INCLUDES
THE REDWOOD CITY PURPORT AND AS
I SAID, IN OUR PREVIOUS
HEARINGS, WHILE OUR REPORT IS
SMALL, IT IS MIGHTY AND IT DOES
CARRY A LOT OF SIMILAR THINGS TO
THE STOCK COMPORT. WHICH, UM.
WHILE YOU MIGHT NOT THINK IT'S
IMPERATIVE TO OUR AREA, IT IS
SUCH THAT ALL THOSE RAW
MATERIALS THAT ARE COMING IN OR
OUT OF THERE, BUT MOSTLY IN DO
HELP KEEP SILICON VALLEY GOING,
AND SO, LIKE I SAID, WELL, IT IS
SMALL. IT IS MIGHTY AND IT IS
IMPORTANT TO OUR ECONOMY. AND
I'M JUST DELIGHTED TO BE HERE
TODAY WITH YOU, UM MR CHAIR.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S BONTA, AND IT'S
SOMETHING THAT SONG TAKE IT
AWAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, UH,
CERTAINLY APPRECIATE YOUR
PRESENCE. UM THIS MORNING WITH
US AND YOUR COMMITMENT TO THE
PORTS AND GOODS MOVEMENT IN THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA. UM IT'S
ORTMANN IS EXECUTIVE RECTOR OF
THE PORTS OF REDWOOD CITY. AND
THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR BEING
HERE AND PLEASE PROCEED WITH
YOUR PRESENTATION. THANK YOU,
CHAIRMAN AND THANK YOU, FELLOW
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S I AM
CHRISTINE'S ORTMANN WITH SUPPORT
OF REDWOOD CITY, AND I ALSO AM
SERVING AS THE PRESIDENT OF THE
CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION PORTED
THOR, IT EASE. I THINK ONE OF
THE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE HEARD
THROUGH YOUR HEARINGS HOPEFULLY
IS AND ALL OF YOUR TOURS THAT
YOU'VE BEEN DOING WITH ALL OF
THE PORTS IS THAT WE ARE ALL
UNIQUE, BUT WE DO ALL
COLLABORATE AND WE DO TRY TO
COOPERATE AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
ESPECIALLY WHEN WE LOOK AT THE
GOODS MOVEMENT AND WHAT THAT
MEANS TO OUR STATE. BUT I THINK
THE OTHER THING YOU MAY HAVE
HEARD IS ONCE YOU'VE SEEN ONE
PART. YOU'VE SEEN ONE PORTS
BECAUSE WE ARE ALSO UNIQUE WITH
WITH US TODAY IN THE AUDIENCE, I
WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE
THE NEW EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FROM
THE PORTS OF RICHMOND. HE IS NEW
, SO UNFORTUNATELY, HE WAS
UNABLE TO BE ON THE PANEL. UM
CHARLES GERARD IS HERE, AND HE
IS ALSO AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS
AND COMMENTS. UM SHOULD YOU HAVE
ANY AS IT RELATES TO THE PORTS
OF RICHMOND TODAY? SO UM, THE
PART OF REDWOOD CITY SERVES
SILICON VALLEY WE ARE ON ABOUT
120 ACRES WERE 18 NAUTICAL MILES
FROM THE HEAD OF SAN FRANCISCO
BAY. IT TAKES A SHIP THREE HOURS
. UM ONCE THE PILOT HAS BOARDED
THE VESSEL TO GET DOWN TO OUR
PORTS, WE ARE CRITICAL TO
SILICON VALLEY BECAUSE AS
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S HAPPENED JUST
MENTIONED WE ARE BRINGING IN ALL
THE RAW CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS.
THAT BUILD OUT SILICON VALLEY
AND THE SOUTH SAN FRANCISCO BAY.
IN ADDITION TO THAT WE ARE A
PRIMARY RECYCLING PORTS FOR THE
SOUTH SAN FRANCISCO BAY. WE
RECYCLE SCRAP METAL THAT IS
EXPORTED OUT OF OUR PORTS AS
WELL AS LIQUID BULK RECYCLING.
WE STARTED IN THE 18 HUNDREDS IN
THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY, AND
WE CONTINUE THAT LEGACY TODAY.
WE ALSO LOOK TO BRING IN PROJECT
CARGOES AS WELL AS BREAK BULK
CARGOES, JUST FURTHER
DIVERSIFYING OUR PORTFOLIO AND
BOTH FROM THE CARGO PERSPECTIVE
AS WELL AS MAKING SURE THAT THE
REAL ESTATE THAT WE HAVE IS
BEING TAKEN ADVANTAGE JOB IN THE
HIGHEST AND BEST USE FOR CARGO.
SUPPORT ALSO PLAYS A SIGNIFICANT
ROLE AS IT RELATES TO EMERGENCY
PREPAREDNESS AND RESPONSE FOR
THE ENTIRE PENINSULA REGION AND
SOUTH SAN FRANCISCO BAY IN 2017,
FEMA DESIGNATED THE PORTS OF
FEDERAL STAGING AREA AND THAT
WAS BECAUSE OF A SIGNIFICANT
CAPITAL INVESTMENT THAT SUPPORT
MADE INTO OUR INFRASTRUCTURE OF
OVER $20 MILLION. WE WERE ONE OF
THE FIRST PORTS IN SAN FRANCISCO
BAY. THAT UM, RECONSTRUCTED ONE
OF OUR WARS TO BE ABLE TO
ACCOMMODATE 3 TO 5 FT. OF SEA
LEVEL RISE AS WELL AS TO BE ABLE
TO WITHSTAND AN 8.9 MAGNITUDE
EARTHQUAKE, AND THAT OBVIOUSLY
GOT THE ATTENTION OF FEMA. UM,
WHILE WE WERE DESIGNATED A
FEDERAL STAGING AREA, WE DON'T
RECEIVE ANY MONEY FROM FEMA FOR
THIS DESIGNATION, AND SO WE
TRULY APPRECIATE THE STATE'S
RECENT ALLOCATION OF MONIES AND
INVESTMENT BECAUSE I'M SURE YOU
REALIZE THAT ALL PORTS
THROUGHOUT THE STATE. HAVE
SIGNIFICANT HIGH VALUE
INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE TO
MAINTAIN. AND SO ANY ASSISTANCE
IN THE MAINTENANCE AND BEING
ABLE TO DEPLOY RESOURCES THROUGH
AND ACROSS THAT INFRASTRUCTURE
IS IMPORTANT FOR US. WE ALSO
TAKE ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP
VERY SERIOUSLY. AND SO WHILE UM,
WHILE WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR A
SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF DREDGING
AT OUR PORTS, THE ARMY CORPS OF
ENGINEERS IS ALSO RESPONSIBLE
FOR MAINTAINING THAT CHANNEL
THAT WE HAVE. AND ONE OF THE
THINGS THAT WE REALLY LOOK TO IS
THE VALUE THAT THE BAY MUD HAS,
AS IT RELATES TO SOFTENING OUR
SHORELINES, CREATING INTERTIDAL
HABITAT THROUGH THE REUSE OF
MATERIALS. UM TO BE ABLE TO ADD
VALUE AND RESILIENCY EFFORTS
ACROSS THE BAY. SO WE BELIEVE
THAT OUR BABY MUD HAS THAT VALUE
. AND RATHER THAN GOING 50 MILES
OFFSHORE, IT SHOULD BE USED IN
OTHER AREAS OF THE BAY FOR
RESILIENCY AND ADAPTATION AND TO
BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE SEA LEVEL
RISE. THE OTHER THING THAT WE
ARE EMBARKING UPON SIMILAR TO
OTHER PORTS THAT YOU'VE HEARD IN
THE REGION IS AS WE LOOK AT
ACCOMMODATING SEA LEVEL RISE
RATHER THAN HARDENING OF OUR
SHORELINES BEING ABLE TO INVEST
IN LIVING SHORELINES THAT ALLOW
THE URBAN FLOW. OF THE DAILY
TIDES THAT WE SEE TO BE ABLE TO
CREATE AND ENHANCE INTERTIDAL
HABITAT. TO PROVIDE EDUCATIONAL
OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR PUBLIC,
ESPECIALLY OUR YOUTH AND BE ABLE
TO ASSIST OUR BOARD IN BEING
ABLE TO SET POLICIES SO THAT AS
FUTURE DEVELOPMENT COMES ALONG
OUR WATERFRONT, WE'RE NOT JUST
HARDENING THOSE EDGES. WE ARE
ABLE TO SOFTEN THEM, AND WE
BELIEVE THAT THAT IS PART OF US
BEING A GOOD ENVIRONMENTAL
STORY. THE OTHER THING THAT WE
TAKE VERY SERIOUSLY IS WORKING
COLLECTIVELY WITH THE ARMY CORPS
OF ENGINEERS FOR EVERY FOOT OF
CHANNEL DEPTH THAT WE LOSE IN
THE SOUTH BAY THAT IS EQUIVALENT
TO THE LOSS OF 3000 METRIC TONS
OF CARGO THAT CANNOT COME
THROUGH OUR PORTS THAT
POTENTIALLY HAS TO COME OR LEAVE
OUR PORTS VIA A TRUCK. SO FOR
EVERY FULLY BURDENED VESSEL THAT
VISITS ARE POURED AND LET'S SEE.
IT'S AROUND 40,000 METRIC TONS
THAT'S TAKING OFF FROM OUR
REGIONAL FREEWAYS ABOUT 4800
TRUCK TRIPS. AND AS YOU'VE HEARD
RECENTLY, IF WE WERE TO LOOK AT
IF THE SHIPS COULDN'T COME TO
THE PORTS OF REDWOOD CITY, WHERE
WOULD THEY GO? THEY WOULD GO
POTENTIALLY TO STOCKTON OR
OTHERS AND THEN BE TRUCKED DOWN.
AND SO IT'S SIGNIFICANT FOR US
TO LOOK AT HOW WE CAN REDUCE OUR
G H G S CONTINUE TO PART PARTNER
WITH BOTH FEDERAL AND PRIVATE
PARTNERSHIP TO BE ABLE TO
IMPROVE OUR ENVIRONMENTAL
FOOTPRINT. AT THE PORTS. AND I
WOULD JUST LIKE TO AGAIN. THANK
YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY AND WE
WELCOME YOU ON A POOR TOUR.
HOPEFULLY IN THE NEAR FUTURE, UM
AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING
THE WHITE PAPER AND THE AND THE
FRUITS AND THE RESULTS OF YOUR
LABOR. HERE. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH AND APPRECIATE
YOUR TESTIMONY. UM I JUST WANT
TO ALSO MAKE SURE THAT I GOT
THIS CORRECTLY. JASON CANADA OY.
UM IS THE DIRECTOR OF THE DEPUTY
PORTRAY RECTOR OF MARITIME AND
REAL ESTATE FOR THE PORTER
STOCKTON. SO AGAIN, THANK YOU
VERY MUCH FAILED TO MAKE MENTION
OF YOUR TITLE AND APPRECIATE YOU
BEING HERE. SO AT THIS POINT IN
TIME, WE WANT TO HAVE MY
COLLEAGUES ASK QUESTIONS OF THIS
PANEL. SO BRACE YOURSELVES. I'LL
I'LL LEAD OFF WITH THE FIRST TWO
QUESTIONS BECAUSE HMM. WHAT'S
NOT IN MY NOTES? IT'S SOMETHING
THAT I WANT TO EXTRACT FROM ONE
IT WAS GIVEN IN TESTIMONY ABOUT,
UH, THAT YOUR DESIGNATED AS A
FEMA WAS. I THINK IT WAS FEMA.
UM BUT YET, AND STILL, THE
DESIGNATION DOESN'T LEVERAGE
DOLLARS AND WHAT HAS BEEN A
RUNNING THEME AND THE LAST
HEARING IN THIS HEARING IS THAT
THE RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR
CONGRESSIONAL MEMBERS? WE ALSO
WANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT, UM UM
CONGRESSMAN ROBERT GARCIA,
REPRESENTING LONG BEAST OF
FORMER MAYOR OF LONG BEACH. HE
CHAIRS THE PORK CAUCUS. UM THERE
AND SO THERE MAY BE AN
OPPORTUNITY WE CAN BRING THE
SELECT COMMITTEES TOGETHER AS
WELL AS THOSE IN WASHINGTON D. C
BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT
THAT WE LEVERAGE SOME OF THOSE
RESOURCES AND FIGURING OUT HOW
DO WE DO IT IN A MORE EFFECTIVE
WAY TO MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE
FEDERAL DOLLARS PROTECTING
BECAUSE WE ALSO KNOW THAT IF
SOMETHING HAPPENS TO CALIFORNIA
SUPPORT THAT AFFECTS THE UNITED
STATES OF AMERICA. AND THERE,
THERE'S THE INVESTMENT IS NOT
THERE. SO MY FIRST QUESTION IS,
UM WITH RESPECT TO INVESTMENTS.
IT WAS MADE MENTIONED THAT THE
INVESTMENT THAT THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA HAS MADE WHICH IS
$1.2 BILLION. I THINK THAT WAS
THE NUMBER THAT WAS USED, UM,
ONE, WE REALIZED THAT IT WAS
ONLY ONE TIME FUNDING AND I WANT
TO UNDERSCORE ONE TIME FUNNY
WHAT WOULD BE SUFFICIENT AS
RATES ONGOING FUNDING? RIGHT UM,
THAT WOULD HELP ADDRESS THE
NEEDS OF YOUR PORTS. DOES THE
PORTS IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA
SO EVERYONE'S TAKE THAT QUESTION
? AND THEN THE NEXT QUESTION IS,
FROM AN ADMINISTRATIVE
STANDPOINT. HOW DOES THE
LEGISLATURE AND THE PORTS WORK
TOGETHER TO CREATE, UM EFFECTIVE
POLICIES TO SUPPORT THE PORTS?
SO THERE ARE TWO SEPARATE
QUESTIONS AND WHOEVER WANTS TO
TACKLE THEM FIRST, AND THEN I
WANT TO OPEN UP FOR MY
COLLEAGUES TO ASK QUESTIONS.
PLEASE GO LEFT TO RIGHT. UM IN
TERMS OF THE FUNDING. THIS IS
SUCH A CRITICAL PIECE OF WHAT
WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE
IN THE 1.2 BILLION BEING ONE
TIME. IS FANTASTIC. IT WAS ONE
TIME BUT IT REALLY TRULY NEEDS
TO BE ONGOING AND ALL OF OUR
PORTS HAVE. WHAT DOES THAT LOOK
LIKE? I'M SORRY. WHAT DOES THAT
LOOK LIKE? IN TERMS OF A DOLLAR
AMOUNT, WHICH IT'S ONGOING. ONE
POINT TO ONGOING WOULD BE A
START. I THINK, BUT OUR
INFRASTRUCTURE IS UNFUNDED IN
MANY WAYS, SO AS ACTUALLY WHEN
DIRECTORS ARTMAN WAS GIVING HER
UPDATES ABOUT HER PORTS, I
WANTED TO SAY OH, WE DO THAT,
TOO. WE DO THAT, TOO. WE DO
THAT, TOO, IN TERMS OF
CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS, BUT WE
ALSO NEED TO BE THE LAY DOWN
SPACE IN THE EVENT OF AN
EARTHQUAKE, WHICH IS NOT NOT IF
BUT WHEN WE ALSO HAVE FACILITIES
WITH DEEP WATER BERTHS. LOTS OF
STAGING AREAS. GOOD FREEWAY
ACCESS EXACTLY WHERE WE WOULD
WANT TO HANDLE THE COMPLEXITIES
OF RESPONDING TO AN EARTHQUAKE.
AND OF COURSE, WE WOULD NEED ALL
THESE FACILITIES TO GET PEOPLE
HOME FROM THE DOWNTOWN. THESE
ARE ALL UNFUNDED MANDATES IN
WHICH OUR PORTS NEEDS TO PLAY A
CRITICAL VITAL ROLE. AND SO THE
WORK WE'VE BEEN DOING BOTH AT
THE STATE AND FEDERAL LEVEL TO
RECOGNIZE AND BRING INVESTMENTS
IN SO WE CAN DO SIMPLE THINGS
LIKE REPAIR OUR ROADWAYS AND GET
GOOD DRAINAGE AND GET GOOD
FENDER RING FOR THE SHIPS. ALL
OF THESE THINGS WE NEED FUNDING
FOR A MOMENT. YES SB ONE MONEY
MY COLLEAGUES CAN CORRECT FROM
I'M I'M WRONG. IT WAS SET UP TO
ADDRESS INFRASTRUCTURES AND
ROADS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
SO MY QUESTION WOULD BE. ARE WE
NOT LEVERAGING THAT AND DRAWING
DOWN THOSE FUNDS FOR THAT
PARTICULAR REASON? WE ARE
ABSOLUTELY LEVERAGING AND DRYING
DOWN THOSE FUNDS FOR EXACTLY
THAT PURPOSE, BUT THE PROBLEM
IS, THE NEED IS MUCH LARGER THAN
THE FUNDS THAT WE RECEIVED WERE
PRIORITIZING AND MAKING REALLY
STRATEGIC INVESTMENTS WITH THAT
MONEY, BUT IF WE ARE TO SUSTAIN
THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE NEED
TO PROVIDE FOR THIS STATE WE ARE
GROSSLY UNDERFUNDED, AND I'M
CURIOUS WHAT MY COLLEAGUES HAVE
TO SAY IF THEY COULD FIGURE OUT
A NUMBER. TACKLE ONE OF THE MOST
QUESTIONS. UH I THINK YOUR
QUESTION POINTS TO SOMETHING
WHICH IS WHAT IS THE DOLLAR
AMOUNT NEEDED TO INVEST IN THE
PORTS OF CALIFORNIA? I THINK,
UM, THIS IS WHY POINTS TO WHY WE
NEED A STATEWIDE FREIGHT. UH AND
GOOD POLICY TO FIGURE THAT OUT.
WHAT IS THE AMOUNT OF INVESTMENT
THE CITY CALIFORNIA WILL NEED?
IN EACH OF THE PORTS TO MAKE
SURE THAT WE STAY COMPETITIVE
AND WE SUPPLY THE NEEDS OF
CALIFORNIA. AND THAT POINTS TO,
UH YOU KNOW WHY WE NEED THIS
KIND OF STATEWIDE STUDY AND
POLICY. AND YOU HOPE YOUR WHITE
POINT POSES STARTING POINT. JUST
EACH PART CAN SPEAK ON FOR ITS
OWN, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A
COLLECTIVE STATEWIDE POLICY AND
STRATEGY. JUST IT IS PART OF
OAKLAND. WE HAVE ONE TERMINAL
120 ACRES. IT'S CURRENTLY NOT
USED. AS A TERM OF WHY, BECAUSE
THE GROUND IS SINKING. WE NEED
TO LEVEL THE GROUND. WE NEED TO
STRENGTHEN THE POOR, THE WHARF
IN ORDER TO MAKE IT USABLE. IT
WOULD HAVE BEEN LOVELY HOW WE'VE
BEEN ABLE TO USE THAT JOINED THE
CONGESTION PERIOD 120 ACRES OF
SPACE THAT WAS NOT DELAYED.
FELLOW JOINED THAT CONGESTION.
THIS IS THE KIND OF THINGS THAT
WE NEED TO STUDY AND FIGURE OUT
WHAT WE NEED AND THE CALIFORNIA
SOCIAL IMPORT AUTHORITIES. I
THINK THAT'S A PROJECT MARKET
MELODIES EXACTLY RIGHT HERE
RIGHT NOW. IS A PROJECT WE MIGHT
WANT TO TAKE HOME ALONG WITH THE
STATE ASSEMBLY. YOU FIGURE OUT
WHAT IS THE CONSISTENT YEAR BY
YEAR INVESTMENT THAT THE
CALIFORNIA NEEDS TO MAKE, IN MY
TESTIMONY POINTED OUT THAT
GEORGIA AND VIRGINIA ARE IN FACT
STATE SUPPORTED PORTS. AND THEIR
EXPANSION PLAN AND THEY'RE
THEY'RE LAID OUT THIS AMAZING
WHEN I HEARD THE TESTIMONY IN
THE AMERICAN ASSOCIATION FOR
AUTHORITIES, THEIR STATE
LEGISLATURE AND REPORTS PLAN
TOGETHER IN TERMS OF THE
INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS, AND THEY
NOT ONLY AT THE PORTS BUT
ENGLAND, WHERE DOES THE
LOGISTICS NEEDS OF THE PORTS?
ENGLAND? WHERE DO WE CREATE
JOBS, ENGLAND? THAT ARE
CONNECTED TO THE PORTS AND JOB
TRAINING AND ALL THAT IS DONE AT
THE STATEWIDE LEVEL. THAT IS A
KIND OF MODEL. I THINK THE
CALIFORNIA NEEDS TO REALLY LOOK
AT IN TERMS OF STATE COORDINATED
FOR A POLICY AND NOT ONLY IN
TERMS OF INVESTMENT IN HARD
INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT TO ASSEMBLY,
BANTA POINT VIEW, THE PEOPLE
INVESTMENT WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT
IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TALK
ABOUT. VERY VERY MUCH SOON IN
TERMS OF HOW WE INVEST IN PEOPLE
IN ORDER TO TRANSITION THEM FROM
THE JOBS OF TODAY TO THE JOBS OF
TOMORROW. A LOT OF GREEN TECH IS
GONNA BE ON THE HORIZON THAT WE
NEED PEOPLE TO SUPPLY TO
WORKFORCE FOR THESE KIND OF
THINGS THAT STATEWIDE POLICY
NEEDS TO ADDRESS AND IN TERMS OF
ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION, WHAT IS
THE DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT WE NEED
INVESTMENT IN PUERTO CALIFORNIA?
DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW WHAT
THERE'S GEORGIA STATE'S
INVESTMENT IS NOT CLEAR. BUT I
CAN CERTAINLY GET YOU THAT
NUMBER. I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY
HELPFUL TO US AS WE PUT THIS
WHITE PAPER TO GATHER TO POINT
TO, UM OTHER STATES AND WHAT
THEIR INVESTMENT IS, IS BECAUSE
CERTAINLY THEY'RE NOT AS BIG AS
CALIFORNIA. BUT IF THEY'RE
MAKING SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT,
AND THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THIS
HEARING IS TO MAKING SURE THAT
ONE THAT WE LOOK AND SEE WHAT
THAT INVESTMENT SHOULD BE, BUT
ALSO POINTING TO OTHER EXAMPLES,
BECAUSE IF WE DON'T DO IT, AND
OTHER PORTS ARE THAN I CAN SEE
SOME OF THAT WORK MOVING TO
THOSE PORTS, YOUR BOY, I SAID
THAT OAKLAND WAS THE FOURTH
LARGEST PORTS 10 YEARS AGO. NOW
WHERE THE 10TH GEORGIA, ON THE
OTHER HAND, MOVE ON THE 10TH TO
THE LORD. FOURTH LARGEST SUPPORT
. THEY BETTER SAY THIS PLACED US
IN TERMS OF THAT RANKING. WOW
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT TO
OUR ATTENTION. ANYONE ELSE WANTS
TO TAKE IT ATTACK AT THE FROM
ADMINISTRATIVE STANDPOINT? UM I
DON'T I DIDN'T HEAR THAT
ADMINISTRATIVE STANDPOINT. HOW
DOES THE LEGISLATURE IN THE
PORTS WORK TOGETHER TO CREATE,
UH, EFFICIENT POLICIES TO
SUPPORT THE PORTS? SO AS YOU'RE
GRAPPLING WITH THAT YOU CAN
SUBMIT IT IN WRITING TO ME
BECAUSE I REALLY WANT US TO
GRAPPLE WITH THAT AND PUT A REAL
ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION. SO I
WANT TO GO TO MS BONTA AND THAN
ANYONE ELSE. OKAY THANK YOU. UM
AND SO THANKFUL FOR, IN
PARTICULAR ARE EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR OF THE PORT OF OAKLAND.
MR DANNY JUAN, WHO HAS SPENT A
LOT OF TIME JUST EDUCATING ME.
UH AND I'VE ACTUALLY GOTTEN TO
MEET WITH SEVERAL OF THE POOR
COMMISSIONERS AND EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR SO THANKFUL FOR YOUR
WORK. I WANTED TO MOVE OUR
CONVERSATION A BIT TO THE AREA
RELATED TO ENSURING THAT WE ARE
PROMOTING SUSTAINABILITY AND
ADJUSTING AND ADJUSTING AND
CLIMATE ACTION, WHILE ALSO
ENSURING THAT OUR PORTS REMAIN
COMPETITIVE THROUGHOUT THE STATE
OF LEARNED FROM MR JUAN THAT ONE
OF THE GREATEST CHALLENGES WE
HAVE IS MAINTAINING OUR
COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE. IN TERMS
OF GOODS MOVEMENT AND ENSURING
THAT WE DON'T HAVE MORE GOODS
CAN BE MOVED OVER TO THE EAST
COAST AND GULF COASTS AND WANT
TO MAKE SURE THAT CALIFORNIA
MAINTAINS ITS, UH, ITS PRIMACY,
ESSENTIALLY IN BEING ABLE TO BE
A STRONG INDUSTRY LEADER IN THAT
REGARD. UM I ALSO KNOW THAT
THERE IS A CHALLENGE THAT WE'VE
CREATED FOR OURSELVES A VERY
GOOD HEALTHY OPPORTUNITY
CHALLENGE WHERE WE SEEK TO
REDUCE EMISSIONS IN THE VEHICLES
AND TECHNOLOGIES THAT WE USE IN
OUR PORT INDUSTRY. UM AND I'VE
LEARNED THAT THERE IS OFTENTIMES
KIND OF MISTIMING IF YOU WILL,
IN TERMS OF THE, UH, THE
STANDARDS THAT CARBON IS AH
ASKED US TO MEET IN TERMS OF THE
AVAILABILITY OF THOSE
TECHNOLOGIES THAT WE WANT TO BE
ABLE TO USE THAT ARE, UM EITHER
EMISSIONS, REDUCING ZERO
EMISSIONS OR OR NEAR ZERO
EMISSIONS. SO I WOULD LOVE FOR
ALL OF YOU TO SPEAK TO ARE THOSE
WHO FEEL BEST SITUATED TO SPEAK
TO THAT THE TIME SYNC CHALLENGE
THAT WE HAVE IN TERMS OF MAKING
SURE THAT THE TECHNOLOGIES THAT
WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO INTRODUCE
THAT PROMOTE ZERO EMISSIONS OR
NEAR ZERO EMISSIONS ARE
AVAILABLE TO US AND THAT ARE
SUSTAINABLE KIND OF AN INDUSTRY
STANDARD THAT ARE GOING TO BE
ABLE TO MAKE FOR QUALITY
INVESTMENTS IN THAT REGARD. MR
WATT AND THEN. I'LL SHARE SOME
EXPERIENCES THAT PART OF
STOCKTON SO ABOUT THREE YEARS
AGO. THE COURT IN COLLABORATION
WITH THE PORT OF LONG BEACH,
DEPORTED STOCKTON IN THE PORT OF
OAKLAND, UM ALL PARTICIPATED IN
CALIFORNIA AIR RESOURCES BOARD,
UM, FINDING OPPORTUNITIES AND
HALF AND THROUGH THAT. REPORT OF
STOCK. KHN UM, WAS ABLE TO
PROCURE ABOUT $10 MILLION FOR
CARGO HANDLING EQUIPMENT, AND
THE FOCUS WAS ZERO YEAR ZERO
EMISSION. THE CHALLENGE WAS.
TECHNOLOGY WASN'T THERE, SO IT
WAS VERY LEADING EDGE, AND
THERE'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF RISK
THAT THE PORTS TOOK WHEN
CHOOSING TO TRANSITION TO ZERO
IN YEAR ZERO. IT TURNED OUT THAT
TECHNOLOGY HAS PROVEN ITSELF IN
THIS SPACE AND SPECIFICALLY
RELATED TO THE TRANSITION FROM
LEAD ACID. TWO LITHIUM ION THAT
TECHNOLOGY AND SO IT WORKED OUT
FOR US, BUT YOU KNOW, IN SEVERAL
CASES, UM THE MANDATE I MEAN AT
BIRTH REGULATIONS ARE ONE OF
THEM. I THINK WE HEARD FROM W
CITY THAT IF YOU SEE ONE POINT
YOU'VE SEEN ONE PART WHAT WE'VE
SEEN IN THE PORTER. STOCKTON HAS
A LOT OF TECHNOLOGY THAT THAT IS
OUT THERE TODAY RELATED TO AT
BIRTH REGULATIONS ARE NOT
PRACTICAL FOR THE PORTS.
STOCKTON'S JUST BECAUSE
OPERATIONALLY AND THE WAY WE'RE
SET UP, WE'RE DIFFERENT. SO AS
WE AS WE LOOK TO PROMOTE
SUSTAINABLE OPERATIONS. THE
PIECE OF YOU KNOW HOW FAR AHEAD
OF TECHNOLOGY OR HOW MUCH OF A
RISK UM PORTS ARE HAVE AN
APPETITE FOR, UM, IS CERTAINLY A
QUESTION SO THANK YOU. I CAN I
CAN. I CAN ADD A COUPLE OF
COMMENTS HERE. I THINK ONE OF
THE CHALLENGES WE HAVE HAVE BEEN
HAVING IS, UM, THE SPECIFICITY
AND THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE
REGULATION MAY BE INFEASIBLE,
BUT THE GOAL OF ACHIEVING ZERO
EMISSIONS AND GETTING CLEAN IS
ACHIEVABLE. AND SO WE HAVE A
MISMATCH OF A REGULATORY BODY
THAT TELLS YOU WHAT YOU NEED TO
HAVE BY WHEN, INSTEAD OF WHAT
THE EMISSION SHOULD BE, AND WHAT
YOUR PLAN IS BECAUSE I KNOW ALL
OF US HAVE A VERY STRONG GOAL TO
ZERO EMISSIONS AND BY IRON
MENTAL AS SUSTAINABILITY. UM I
CAN GIVE AN EXAMPLE HERE WITH
CRUISE SHIPS WERE REQUIRED TO
HAVE SHORESIDE POWER, WHICH IS
WONDERFUL, BUT IT'S EXPENSIVE,
VERY EXPENSIVE, AND IT REQUIRES
A LOT OF ENERGY TO PULL OFF. WE
HAVE SHORESIDE POWER AT OUR
PRIMARY CRUISE SHIP TERMINAL,
PIER 27 AND OUT AT THE SHIPYARD.
HOWEVER WE DO NOT HAVE IT AT OUR
SECONDARY CRUISE BERTH PIER 35
AND GETTING IT WOULD BE
COMPLETELY ECONOMICALLY
INFEASIBLE RELATIVE TO THE
CREW'S OPERATION THERE, SO WE'RE
VERY LIMITED IN THE NUMBER OF
CRUISE SHIPS. WE CAN BRING IT.
THE SAN FRANCISCO AND AT A TIME
WHEN WE NEED ECONOMIC RECOVERY
FOR THE STATE, AND WE WANT TO
WELCOME AS MANY VISITORS AS
POSSIBLE. WE DO NOT WANT TO TURN
CRUISE SHIPS AWAY. I WANT A
SECOND. THAT POINT, WHICH IS I
THINK THE PORTS ARE ON BOARD
WITH CARBS, AMBITIOUS GOLDEN
STATE'S GOAL IN TERMS OF
GREENING AND ZERO MISSIONS. I
THINK THE TARGET THERE WERE SET
IS SOMETHING WE CAN ALL ACHIEVE
ITS THE SPECIFICITY OF THE
REGULATIONS IN TERMS OF
DICTATING WHICH TALKING OLOGY TO
USE WHEN AND WHERE THAT IS
PROBLEMATIC SOMETIMES, AND I
UNDERSTAND YOU KNOW, CARVER
STAFF IS VERY HARDWORKING, BUT
THEY CANNOT POSSIBLY KNOW WHAT
IS HAPPENING ON THE GROUND AT
ALL TIMES. I THINK I THINK WE
ALREADY AGREE. SOMETIMES YOU
WISH THAT IF THEY WERE GOING TO
SIT SUCH SPECIFIC STANDARD, THEY
WILL COME AND SEE US MORE OFTEN
AND WORK WITH US IN TERMS OF
DEVELOPING THOSE STANDARDS IN A
WAY THAT ACTUALLY IS FEASIBLE.
SO THAT IS THAT IS CERTAINLY ONE
SECOND THAT POINT AGAIN. I WANT
TO EMPHASIZE THE GOALS THAT THEY
SET IS SOMEDAY WE CAN HELP WORK
TOGETHER ACHIEVE, ESPECIALLY
WITH THE INVESTMENT. RECENTLY
THAT THE FEDERAL AND STATE
GOVERNMENT HAS COME FORWARD
WITH. I THINK FIVE YEARS AGO IF
YOU ASKED ME, THE SAME QUESTION
WOULD SAY, NO WAY. THERE'S NOT
ENOUGH MONEY TO DO ALL THIS
RIGHT NOW. I THINK IT IS
POSSIBLE. I THINK WE JUST NEED
TO HAVE STANDARDS THAT ARE
WORKABLE. JUST GIVE YOU AN
EXAMPLE AT THE PORT OF OAKLAND,
WHICH IS THE TRUCKS. UH AS YOU
KNOW, THE CARBS STANDARD IS
STARTING. JANUARY NEXT YEAR. ALL
TRUCKS, NEW TRUCKS BUT HAS TO BE
ZERO EMISSIONS WELL. I DON'T
KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GONNA GET THAT
TRUCK RIGHT NOW BY JANUARY, UH,
SO AND THAT'S THERE'S EXAMPLE.
LUCKILY, THERE'S A TIMBER
FACEBOOK PHASE OUT PERIOD. FOR
THOSE TRUCKS BE THERE ARE
CURRENTLY OWNED AND WHAT WE
ANTICIPATE IS THAT SOME OF THESE
TRUCKS WHERE WE SOLD ELSEWHERE
IN THESE, THE TRUCKER IS GOING
TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO
FINANCE NEW TRUCKS IN THE NEXT
10 YEARS THAT TODAY WE'RE
WORKING WITH THEM AND HOW
THERE'S NO FINANCING MECHANISM
FOR THEM YET. UH THERE'S REALLY
NOT A WHOLE LOT OF, UM SO THE
TECHNICAL HELP THAT WE NEED TO
PUT ON THE GROUND FOR THEM. WE
JUST HAD A TRUCK FAIR TODAY, AND
SOMEBODY TRUCKER TOLD ME THAT HE
PUT DOWN UH, $50,000 DEPOSIT
TESLA TO BUY A TRUCK FROM THEM.
WELL TESLA THAT'S TWO YEARS AGO.
SO FAR, TESLA HAS NOT EVEN SAID
WHEN THAT TRUCK IS GONNA BE
AVAILABLE, AND YET THEY'RE
HOLDING HIS MONEY. $50,000 IN
THE BANK THAT HE'S NOT BEING
ABLE TO USE, AND TESLA IS NOT
TELLING HIM WHEN THE TRUCK WILL
BE VERBAL WHETHER TECHNO TRUCK
WILL EVEN BE WORKABLE FOR HIS
HAULING DISTANCE. SO THIS IS THE
KIND OF TECHNOLOGY KIND OF
ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO WORK
THROUGH. UH AND AGAIN, THESE
TRUCKERS ARE MOSTLY A LOT OF
IMMIGRANTS. THEY'RE HARD THEY'RE
WORKING INDEPENDENT TRUCKERS.
AND SO THIS IS THE KIND OF
PRACTICAL SOLUTIONS THAT WE NEED
TO WORK OUT AS WE TRANSITION TO
ZERO MISSIONS. UM I JUST I'D
LIKE TO ALSO SAY THAT I THINK
THE OTHER SYNERGISTIC BENEFIT
THAT COULD COME FROM THE STATE
ESTABLISHING A FREIGHT AND
POLICY, UM, INDIVIDUAL OR OR OR
PROCESS IS THAT YOU BRING IN
OTHER STAKEHOLDERS THAT ARE
IMPORTANT TO THIS DISCUSSION,
FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN WE LOOK AT
ELECTRIFYING SOME OF OUR STUFF
AT THE PORTS OF REDWOOD CITY WE
NEED AN OBSTACLE WHEN WE GO TO
OUR ENERGY SUPPLIER AS IT
RELATES TO THEIR ABILITY TO
BUILD THAT CAPACITY OR PROVIDE
THAT CAPACITY. AND WE'RE
STRUGGLING WITH THAT AS WELL AS
WE LOOK AT BRINGING FORWARD
FUTURE FERRY SERVICE BECAUSE OF
THE DISTANCE THAT WE ARE FROM
BOTH OAKLAND AND SAN FRANCISCO
BEING ABLE TO HAVE FAIRIES THAT
CAN GO THAT DISTANCE WITHIN THAT
SHORT TIME FRAME. IS THERE AN
OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO PLUG IN
AT THE PORTAL? REDWOOD CITY? NOT
IF YOUR ENERGY PROVIDER CANNOT
PROVIDE THAT. SO I THINK THAT
THERE'S SYNERGIES THAT MAYBE YOU
COULD ACHIEVE BETTER
COLLABORATION WITH CARB WITH
YOUR PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS
. IF YOU HAVE THAT ENTITY TO
ASSIST YOU THROUGH WHAT THE
REGULATORS WANT VERSUS WHAT CAN
HAPPEN IN REALITY. I WANT TO
MISS PAPIN. SO I JUST WANT TO
FOLLOW UP ON A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
THIS WAS NOT MY FIRST QUESTION,
BUT LET ME DOVETAIL ON THE
DISCUSSION HERE. WHAT ROLE DO
YOU SEE HYDROGEN PLAYING BOTH
WITH RESPECT TO HOW YOU OWE
CONDUCT YOURSELVES AT THE PORTS
AND WITH RESPECT TO TRUCKS AND
DREAD, BECAUSE AS I UNDERSTAND
IT YEAH. MOST TRUCKING COMPANIES
DON'T WON'T REALLY BENEFIT BY
GOING THE ELECTRIC ROUTE. THE
BATTERIES ARE HEAVY. THEY TAKE A
LONG TIME TO CHARGE IN THE
MEANTIME, IF WE IF WE HAD
HYDROGEN TRUCK'S THERE WON'T BE
IDLING AT IMPORT NEXT
COMMUNITIES OF COLOR THAT ARE
JUST SUCKING UP ALL THOSE FUMES.
SO WHAT ROLE DO YOU SEE HYDROGEN
PLAYING, THEN? I GOTTA JUST A
COUPLE OF THEIR FOLLOW UPS.
HYDROGEN IS GOING TO HAVE TO
PLAY A BIG ROLE AND BECAUSE IT'S
LIKE YOU SAID, PORTABLE, IT'S
FLEXIBLE. IT IS. AH AND RIGHT
NOW, FRANKLY, THE TECHNOLOGY FOR
TRUCKS IS THAT LONG DISTANCE
TRUCKS GOING TO HAVE TO USE
HYDROGEN TECHNOLOGY. AND THIS IS
AN EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING THAT, UH
, YOU KNOW, WE SPENT A LOT OF
TIME EARLIER ON DISCUSSION ABOUT
TRANSITIONS OR IMAGINE WHETHER
IT'S ELECTRICITY OR HYDROGEN.
AND SOME YOU KNOW THERE WAS A
WHOLE DEBATE ABOUT HYDROGEN IS
NOT GOING TO WORK BECAUSE
ELECTRICITY IS THE WAY TO GO.
WELL NOW I THINK WE'RE FREAKING
OUT THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO
TRY ALL THESE METHODS. AND SO
THIS IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE WHERE
THE SORT OF BUREAUCRATIC WELL
I'M ALWAYS USED BUREAUCRATIC.
BUT THIS SO THE RUG A TOY DEBATE
. SOMETIMES IT'S KIND OF TAKES
ON A R V E REALITY BECAUSE ON
THE GROUND, WE ALL KNEW THE
HYDROGEN IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE
IN THE MIX. AND YET WE TOOK
ABOUT A YEAR AND A YEAR AND A
HALF TO DEBATE WHETHER HYDROGEN
SUPREME OR ELECTRICITY IS
SUPREME. AND SO THIS IS, UH SO
DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION IS GONNA
BE ONE OF THE DEBATE ONE OF THE
HYDROGEN TECHNOLOGIES THAT WE'RE
GOING TO HAVE TO IMPLEMENT. AH,
I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE
A TRANSITION PERIOD FROM SO THAT
THIS GRAY BLUE HYDROGEN TO GREEN
HYDROGEN, THERE'S GOING TO BE
HAVING A TRANSITION AGAIN. I
CANNOT BE IS THE PUREST VIEW
THAT WE MUST START WITH GREEN
HYGIENE RIGHT AWAY. IT'S NOT
GONNA WORK AND ESPECIALLY FOR
ANTICIPATING THE TRUCK'S GONNA
HAVE TO TRANSITION DURING THAT
PERIOD. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO
START WITH THE HIGH TRANSITION
PERIOD JUST LIKE WE DID WITH
HYBRID TECHNOLOGY INTO ZERO
MISSIONS. WE USE A LOT OF HYBRID
EQUIPMENT RIGHT NOW REDUCES
EMISSIONS BY 97% VERSUS 100%
THIS IS KIND OF DEBATE THAT WE
NEED TO GET AWAY FROM AND USE
THE TECHNOLOGY. AND GET IT.
SPEED IT AS FAST AS WE CAN TO A
PLACE WHERE IT'S BETTER. AND I
WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SAY, I THINK
THAT THERE'S AN ELEMENT OF
OUTREACH AND EDUCATION THAT CAN
ALSO COINCIDE WITH BRINGING ALL
OTHER TYPES OF ALTERNATIVE FUELS
FORWARD HYDROGEN, INCLUDING
MAKING SURE THAT THE PUBLIC
UNDERSTANDS IT THAT THEY ARE NOT
SCARED OF IT, WHETHER IT'S
HYDROGEN OR WHAT IT IS, UM, AND
THAT THEY'RE SUPPORTING IT SO
THAT THERE IS A BROADER VOICE TO
SUPPORT THESE OTHER TYPES OF
ALTERNATIVE MODES. AS FUELING.
ARE YOU COMPLETE? JUST A COUPLE
OF FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS RELATING
TO BUDGETING. UM SO IT IS THAT A
PORTION OF YOUR BUDGET COME FROM
SHIPS THAT ARE USING THE PORTS.
AND I'M JUST YOU KNOW, YOU CAN
ANSWER IN THE ABSTRACT. I DON'T
NEED SPECIFIC NUMBERS. WHAT
PERCENTAGE OF YOUR BUDGET IS
THAT? AND HAVE YOU GONE AS FAR
AS YOU COULD GO WITH? HEY WE
GOTTA CHARGE MORE BECAUSE WE
NEED GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE. WE
NEED TO NOT ALWAYS GO TO
HARDENING ARE AND I APPRECIATE
ALL YOUR REMARKS DIRECTORS
ORTMANN, BECAUSE, AS YOU KNOW
OUR COUNTY'S MOST VULNERABLE
COUNTY IN THE STATE TO SEA LEVEL
RISE AND THE FACT THAT WE ARE
WORKING HARD TO DO SOME SOFT
HARDENING RATHER THAN HARD
HARDENING. UM I REALLY
APPRECIATE THAT. BUT I'M JUST
WONDERING HOW MUCH OF THAT CAN
YOU REALISTICALLY GET OR DOES IT
JUST MAKE YOU LESS COMPETITIVE
AND EVERYBODY GOES THROUGH THE
PANAMA CANAL AND LANDS IN
GEORGIA OR THE GULF PORTS? I YOU
KNOW AGAIN. THESE ARE ABSTRACT.
I'M NOT HOLDING YOU TO SPECIFIC
NUMBERS. BUT YOU ARE CERTAINLY A
BUSINESS THAT IS ABLE TO CHARGE
YOUR USERS. UNLIKE SOME OTHER
GOVERNMENTAL INFRASTRUCTURE IF
YOU WILL. I'LL BE THE QUICKEST.
UM IT'S ABOUT 30% OF OUR REVENUE
, SO THE PORT OF SAN FRANCISCO
EARNS ITS REVENUE PRIMARILY FROM
OUR REAL ESTATE LEASES IN TERMS
OF, UM, ECONOMICS FOR US. WE ARE
UNDERFUNDED. UM DEEPLY
UNDERFUNDED IN THE MARITIME SIDE
. UM WE RELY ON STATE AND
FEDERAL GRANTS TO MAINTAIN THAT
INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE BIG THING
FOR US IS NOT WHETHER WE COULD
CHARGE MORE. WE ACTUALLY EARNED
QUITE A BIT FROM CRUISE SHIPS
FOR PER PASSENGER HEAD CHARGED
AND WE'RE ALWAYS WORKING ON THAT
PIECE. BUT ON CARGO SPECIFICALLY
, WE NEED TO FUNDING FOR
OPPORTUNITIES TO COME, SO WE
NEED TO CREATE FABRICATION JOBS
AGAIN IN SAN FRANCISCO. WE NEED
TO UTILIZE ALL OF OUR ACREAGE OF
LAND IN THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY
FOR MARITIME COMMERCE. SUPPORT
OF SAN FRANCISCO CANNOT WHERE AN
ENTERPRISE ORGANIZATION THAT IS,
UM I WOULD SAY, STRUCTURALLY
UNBALANCED BECAUSE OF THE NEEDS
THE INVESTMENT NEEDS INTO OUR
ASSET, AND THAT HAS BEEN
PERSISTENT. BUT FOR US, IT'S NOT
GOING TO BE EARNING MORE FROM
CARGO. IT'S GOING TO BE
INVESTING MORE IN CARGO FOR THE
FOR THE VALUE THAT IT PROVIDES
TO COMMUTE TO THE COMMUNITY AND
TO THE STATE IN TERMS OF GOODS,
MOVEMENT AND GREEN GREEN
TRANSITIONS. PORTER. STOCKTON IS
IN A VERY SIMILAR CASE. AND FROM
A REVENUE STANDPOINT, WE'RE
ABOUT 5050, SO MAINLY TWO MAIN
REVENUE STREAMS ARE REAL ESTATE
AND MARITIME SO AND IT'S ABOUT A
5050 SPLIT. BUT WHEN WE START TO
THINK ABOUT POTENTIALLY
ADJUSTING THE COMMERCIAL ASPECT
OF THE MARITIME BUSINESS, THEN
KIND OF GOES DOWN THE PATH OF
COMPETITIVENESS. WHEN WE HEAR
ABOUT, YOU KNOW, GEORGIA PORTS
AND, YOU KNOW, FUNDING THAT, UM,
PLANS THAT SPECIFICALLY FOCUS ON
PORTS. SO IT'S AH, IT'S
SOMETHING THAT WE THAT WE
STRUGGLE WITH IS HOW TO FUND
INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS. UM AND YOU
KNOW THE CONSISTENCY OF FUNDING
FROM. FROM FUNDING SOURCES FROM
AGENCIES IS A HUGE PIECE OF THAT
DRESS. I'M SORRY. OKAY I'M SORRY
. YOU'RE NOT PRIVATELY HELD. NO,
NO. YEAH, WE ARE. WE ARE. YES WE
REPORT DISTRICT PUBLIC. YEAH YES
, BENITA IS PRIVATELY HELD, BUT
I DON'T BELIEVE THERE ON THE
PANEL TODAY. I THINK WE'RE, UH,
EXCELLENT QUESTION BECAUSE YOU
SAW IT'S ALL STORMING EAGER TO
ANSWER THAT QUESTION. AS YOU
ASKED IT. I THINK THIS IS A
FUNDAMENTAL SORT OF QUESTION
THAT WE NEED TO ASK A STATE AH,
PORTABLE OAKLAND. UH WE ARE
BARELY OUR REVENUES SUPPORT ARE
ONGOING OPERATIONS BUT NOT
INFRASTRUCTURE. I'LL JUST GIVE
YOU AN EXAMPLE. OUR BIGGEST
PORTS RIGHT NOW. TOMORROW RIGHT
NOW IS THE S S A R A HARDER IN
BRITISH FROM ALL 20. YEARS AGO,
WE INVESTED ABOUT BILLION
DOLLARS ISSUE THAT BILLION
DOLLAR DEBT. TO BUILD THAT
TUNNEL. UH AND WE'RE TEND TO
THIS DAY WE'RE PAYING THAT BACK.
BILLION DOLLAR DEBT, NEARLY
BANKRUPTED DEPORT. BECAUSE RIGHT
AFTER THE TOILET LAID OFF 50% OF
OUR WORKFORCE, NEARLY 50% OF
LIKE WAR FORCE, AND THAT WILL
ALSO A COUPLE WITH THE RECESSION
IN 2009, BUT, UH, BASICALLY, WE
HAVE WE FELL UNDER THAT BURDEN.
NOT THAT DEBT FOR THE DUCKS 20
YEARS JUST NOW DIGGING OUT OF
THAT DEBT BURDEN. WE'RE JUST NOT
BECOMING A SUSTAINABLE POURED
AGAIN ALTERNATIVE OPERATION. SO
UH, THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF WHERE
HOW MUCH THE INVESTMENT IN
INFRASTRUCTURE IS SIMPLY NOT
WITHIN THE REACH OF OUR CHARGES
BECAUSE I WISH YOU KNOW,
SOMETIMES I TALKED TO SOME OF
THE UTILITIES. UH YOU KNOW THAT
WATER UTILITY AND THEIR
MONOPOLIES THEY GET TO CHARGE
WHAT THEY NEED TO CHARGE TO
FURTHER OPERATIONS AND
INVESTMENT. AND THEN THE AND
SOMETIMES THEY GET TAX FORM AND
IS TOO WE DON'T GET ANY TAX
HARMONIES. WE DON'T GET ANY
PROPERTY TAXES OR ANYTHING LIKE
THAT FROM SO WE'RE NOT A
MONOPOLY. WE HAVE TO COMPETE
AGAINST THE OTHER PORTS AND
OTHER COUNTRIES AND IN ORDER TO
HOLD THAT COMPETITIVENESS, WE
SIMPLY AT THE END OF THE DAY
AFTER WE PAY FOR OPERATION
MAINTENANCE DO NOT HAVE MONEY
FOR INVESTMENT IN INFRASTRUCTURE
THAT WE NEED TO KEEP UP. SO THAT
IS WHERE THE STATE UM WE'RE
ASKING TO COME IN AS A FREIGHT
POLICY STUDY THAT ISSUE. FRANKLY
I MEAN, I'M SO GLAD THAT THE
CALTRANS, UH, DEPARTMENT
TRANSPORTATION AH, DIRECTOR OMA
SCHOCKEN HAS TAKEN THE VIEW THAT
TRANSPORTATION INCLUDES SUPPORTS
BECAUSE ALONG IT'S TIME I THINK
PEOPLE VIEW TRANSPORTATION IS
SIMPLY THE ROADS. IF YOU LOOK AT
THE ROADS AND HIGHWAYS, IT IS AS
TOTALLY SUBSIDIZED BY THE STATE
OF CALIFORNIA. YOU DON'T HATE
THAT USERS TO PAY. TOTALLY OUT
OF THAT. WHY BECAUSE WE BELIEVE
INVESTMENT IN ROADS IS GONNA
FACILITATE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT,
PEOPLE MOVEMENT AND SUCH IN JOBS
. YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THE PORTS
THE SAME WAY IT'S AN INVESTMENT
INTO THE ECONOMY AND SHOULD NOT
EXPECT THE POOR TO PAY FOR
ITSELF. UM BOTH FOR THE
INFRASTRUCTURE AND ON A GOAL
MAINTENANCE. UM I WANT TO MOVE
TO MR VINCE VAUGHN. THANK YOU,
MR CHAIR. I WANTED IT TO BE
FIRST. UH I WANT TO BUILD OFF
WITH THE CHAIR WAS SAYING, I
CERTAINLY AM ONE THAT BELIEVES
THAT THERE SHOULD BE CONTINUOUS
INVESTMENT IN THE PORTS,
ESPECIALLY COMING FROM THE
GENERAL FUND. AND AS AS I SAID,
THE BUDGET COMMITTEE I'VE BEEN A
AN ADVOCATE FOR THAT. UM AND I
THINK I WANNA FOR AND ALSO WANT
TO THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING THE
FIRST MOVERS IN INNOVATION AND
BEING CENTERS OF INNOVATION.
WHEN IT COMES TO DO
TECHNOLOGIES. I DO WANT TO ASK
YOU AND I'M TRYING TO WRAP MY
HANDS AROUND TO REOCCURRING
THEMES. ONE IS THE
COMPETITIVENESS CHALLENGE YOU
MENTIONED. ON ABOUT HOW GEORGIA
AND YOU'RE POOR HAD FLIPPED FROM
FROM FOURTH AND 10TH. NOW YOU
WERE FOR IT, AND NOW YOU'RE WERE
FOURTH AND 10TH AND IN GEORGIA
WAS 10TH AND FOURTH AND THEN
JUXTAPOSED THE COMMENTS FROM
FROM ALL OF YOU ABOUT AND I'LL I
WON'T QUOTE ALL OF YOU. BUT
YOU'VE USED THE WORDS
INFEASIBLE. UM YOU'VE USED THE
WORDS COSTLY. UNREALISTIC YOU'VE
USED EXAMPLES WHEN IT COMES TO
THE CRUISE SHIPS WHEN IT COMES
TO TRUCK REQUIREMENTS. I GUESS
I'M I WOULD LIKE TO GET A LITTLE
DEEPER IN TERMS OF YOUR
RECOMMENDATIONS. IF THE REGULAR
OF THE REGULATIONS FROM CAR, FOR
EXAMPLE ARE INFEASIBLE COSTLY,
UNREALISTIC AND WHAT DO YOU ASK
CARB TO DO? IN TERMS OF
FUNCTIONING BECAUSE YOU
MENTIONED BEFORE YOUR EXAMPLE
ABOUT HOW TAKING ON A MASSIVE
AMOUNT OF DEBT ALMOST BANKRUPTED
THE PORTS, AND I DON'T THINK
THAT IS A VERY PRAGMATIC
SOLUTION TO THIS WHOLE SCENARIO,
WHICH IS TO BE AMBITIOUS, BUT
NOT TO BE REALISTIC IS NOT A
RECIPE FOR SUCCESS, AND
ESPECIALLY WHEN, WHEN ECONOMIC
GROWTH. OUR ENTIRE SUPPLY CHAIN
AND JOBS ARE ON THE LINE WHEN IT
COMES TO THE OPERATIONS OF THE
PORTS, SO HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW
TO BALANCE. THE. TWO I THINK
CARBON NEEDS TO INCLUDE
FEASIBILITY AND THE ANALYSIS
BEFORE THE REGULATIONS ARE LET I
THINK CARB NEEDS TO WORK MUCH
MORE CLOSELY WITH THE OPERATORS
AND THE PORTS DIRECTORS TO SEE
HOW FEASIBLE THESE THESE
CONCEPTS ARE AND TO MAKE IT A
KEY PART OF THE ANALYSIS BEFORE
THE REGULATION IS PUT INTO LAW.
UM. I WAS SECOND THAT AGAIN. I
THINK I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THE
DIFFERENCE. I THINK IN TERMS OF
THE GOALS I THINK WE CAN ALL
MEET THOSE GOALS. IN TERMS OF
REDUCTION. IT'S NOT THE GOAL
OVERALL GOAL IS NOT FEASIBLE.
IT'S WHEN TARP USES, UH CERTAIN
SPECIFIC REGULATIONS HAS TO A
CERTAIN TECHNOLOGY AND WHERE AND
WHEN, WHEN YOU START SPECIFYING
THAT KIND OF LEVEL IT BECOMES
DEPARTING FROM REALITY OF THE
OPERATIONS, SO I WOULD CONCUR
WITH, UM WITH DIRECTOR PHªN SAN
FRANCISCO THAT THEY NEED TO LOOK
AT WORKING WITH THE OPERATORS TO
DEVELOP FEASIBILITY STANDARDS IN
TERMS OF ANY PARTICULAR
STANDARDS, AND NOW YOU CAN SET
FEASIBILITY STANDARDS AND THEN
GIVE US THE TIMELINE IS TO GO
WHERE YOU WANT TO GO THE
ULTIMATE MEAT. THAT GIVE US THE
GOAL. LET US DO THE TECHNOLOGY.
LET US CHOOSE THE METHODOLOGY
HOW TO MEET THAT, RATHER THAN
DICTATING THE PARTICULAR METHOD,
SO I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE
SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD I URGE
IN IN TERMS OF THE REGULATORY
BALANCE, AND IF I CAN ALSO SAY,
I THINK IT'S EVEN IT'S WORKING
WITH THE PORTS, BUT IT'S ALSO
LOOKING AT THE SERVICE PROVIDING
INDUSTRY YOU HAVE YOUR TUGS AND
YOUR OTHER SERVICE PROVIDERS
THAT ARE OFTEN TIMES NOT INVITED
TO THE TABLE. AND SO AS WE LOOK
AT TECHNOLOGY IMPROVEMENTS, IT'S
INDUSTRY WIDE. SO WORKING WITH
THE PORTS AS HAS BEEN MENTIONED,
BUT ALSO REACHING OUT TO YOUR
INDUSTRY PROVIDERS BECAUSE
THEY'RE THE ONES WHO WHEN IT'S
WHEN IT'S HITTING THEIR BOTTOM
LINE. IT ALL GETS PASSED BACK
ONTO US. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY
THAT THIS IS CLEARLY ONE OF THE
REOCCURRING THEMES THAT I THINK
WILL BE THE SHOULD BE THE FOCUS
FOCAL POINT OF OUR STATEWIDE
FREIGHT POLICY IS TO FIND THAT
BALANCE AND I WOULD GUESS
CHALLENGE ALL OF YOU THAT I
WOULD HOPE THAT YOU WOULD
PROVIDE US WITH A POLICY AND NOT
WAIT FOR US TO DEVELOP ONE
BECAUSE I THINK THAT YOU'RE
GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS.
SOMEONE WHO SERVES IN THE
LEGISLATURE THAT IF YOU HAVE A
LOT OF INDIVIDUALS WHO DON'T
UNDERSTAND, OR IS TRYING TO
UNDERSTAND THE SUPPLY CHAIN, AND
I'VE SPENT SEVEN YEARS TRYING
TO, UM TO HARDENS BY CHENEY AND
APPRECIATE BEING ON THE
COMMITTEE'S ALLOW US TO DO IT,
BUT A LOT OF TIMES THEY'RE GOING
TO BE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES IF
YOU WAIT AND I THINK THAT THAT'S
SOMETHING THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT
AND ALSO WANT TO UNDERSCORE THAT
THEIR PROBLEMS ARE PROBLEMS.
ABSOLUTELY AND I THINK THAT'S
WHERE THAT SYNERGY IS. IS GOING
TO BE CRITICALLY IMPORTANT IS
THAT WE CERTAINLY HAVE TO
PROVIDE THAT THAT LEADERSHIP
WHEN IT COMES TO THE TO OUR
STATE FREIGHT STATEWIDE FREIGHT
POLICY. I THINK THAT A LOT OF
TIMES WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE THE
ADULTS IN THE ROOM TO PROVIDE
THAT BALANCE, AND I THINK THAT
YOUR VOICE IS GOING TO BE
CRITICALLY IMPORTANT IN THAT NOT
ONLY WITH ONGOING INVESTMENTS,
BUT WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WHAT
WE'RE ASKING REALISTIC. AND I
WILL JUST ASK ONE THIS ONE
SPECIFIC EXAMPLE. BECAUSE I
THINK, DANNY YOU MENTIONED THIS.
YEAH THE CARBS NEW DRAINAGE,
CHUCK REQUIREMENTS. THEY TAKE
EFFECT JANUARY 1ST, AND YOU'VE
OUTLINED THE ADDED COST. YOU'VE
OUTLINED THE IMPACT TO THE
TRUCKING WORLD THAT PROBABLY
OTHER SUPPLY CHAIN AND OTHER
STAKEHOLDERS ARE GONNA HAVE, UH
ENORMOUS COSTS AND CONSEQUENCES.
WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IF YOU
KNOW YOU'RE ASKING FOR
FLEXIBILITY, AND I AM ONE THAT
AGREES WITH YOU, 100% THERE
SHOULD BE FLEXIBILITY AND
FEASIBILITY, RIGHT? I DEAL WITH
THIS ALL THE TIME. CARB IS
PROBABLY A FOUR LETTER WORD. WE
DON'T SAY IN THE CENTRAL VALLEY
VERY OFTEN, RIGHT? BECAUSE A LOT
OF THE TECHNOLOGY THEY'RE ASKING
FOR JUST DOESN'T EXIST YET. WILL
IT EXIST IN THE FUTURE?
ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. BUT WE HAVE TO
ALLOW THAT TECHNOLOGY TO MATURE
AND WE NEED INNOVATORS, AND WE
NEED INVESTMENT, RIGHT? YOU JUST
CAN'T FORCE AN OPERATION TO GO 0
TO 100 IN 4.2 SECONDS. SOME CARS
CAN DO THAT, BUT OUR CARS WERE
ASKING OR NOT GOING TO DO THAT
RIGHT AWAY AND SO WHAT DOES THAT
MEAN? WE'VE LIVED THROUGH. I
DON'T I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO
LIVE THROUGH THE SUPPLY CHAIN
CRISIS THAT WE HAD OVER THE
PANDEMIC. SO JANUARY 2ND ROLLS
AROUND. AND CARBS, NOT FLEXIBLE.
SO WHAT IS THE REALITY? WHAT IS
GOING TO HAPPEN AND THAT'S IN
THAT SCENARIO. IF NOTHING
CHANGES. UH IF YOU ASK THE WHOLE
INDUSTRY WERE ANTICIPATE THAT
THERE WILL BE A SHORTAGE.
TRUCKERS COME IN NEXT 3 TO 5
YEARS. WE ANTICIPATE THAT WE'RE
GOING TO HAVE TO FIND, UH EITHER
TRAINEES. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO
HAVE A BIG HUGE FINANCING
PROGRAM TO HELP TRUCKERS BY
THESE TRUCKS THAT THEY'RE GONNA
NEED IF THE TECHNOLOGY EXISTS,
UH, I THINK YOU WERE FULLY
ANTICIPATE. IF YOU TALK TO
TRUCKING ASSOCIATIONS THAT THESE
RULES ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE
POSTPONED SOMEHOW BECAUSE IT'S
SIMPLY NOT GOING TO BE
ENFORCEABLE. AT SOME POINT,
EITHER YOU'RE GONNA DRIVE A LOT
OF PEOPLE OUT OF BUSINESS, OR
YOU'RE GONNA END YOU'RE GOING TO
DRIVE UP THE RATES FOR, UM
CENTRAL VALLEY FREIGHT MOVEMENT.
UH AND, UM AND WE'RE GOING TO
HAVE TO AND I AM A LOT ACTUALLY
IN TERMS OF AND YOU'RE GOING TO
HAVE, AND THE RESULT IS NOT EVEN
GOOD BECAUSE HE'S TRUCKS THAT
THERE ARE CURRENTLY HOW IT'S
GOING TO BE SOLD TO SOME OTHER
STATES. SO YOU IT'S NOT THE
DESTRUCTION GONNA GO. YOU SIMPLY
DISAPPEAR TO PLANET EARTH. AH SO
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A SHORTAGE OF
TRUCKS. AND YET THESE ARE THE
TRUCKS, 30 TRUCKS AND GO TO
SOMEWHERE ELSE TO BE USED TO
SUPPORT THEIR INDUSTRY. WE'RE
JUST NOT A GOOD RESULT YOU HAVE.
SO I THINK THAT'S JUST ONE
EXAMPLE OF THE IMPACT THAT YOU
HAVE ON TENDER RESULTS OF A
REGULATION THAT SPECIFIES. THE
TIME AND THE TECHNOLOGY THAT YOU
NEED TO USE RATHER THAN GIVING
US A GOAL TO SAY THIS IS WE
ANTICIPATE THAT THE OTHER YOU'RE
YOU KNOW, YOU'RE AFRAID INDUSTRY
NEEDS TO CHEAT THIS GOAL AND
TELL US WHAT THE TECHNOLOGY IS
IN WOLF SUPPLY THAT WITH YOU IN
A WAY THAT MAYBE USES PENALTIES,
INCENTIVES RATHER THAN
REGULATORY MANDATES AND
DEADLINES, AND I JUST WANNA I
JUST WANNA THANK YOU FOR YOUR
CANDOR. AND THIS IS ONE OF OUR
CHALLENGES AS AS A COMMITTEE IS
THAT YOU KNOW WE'RE WEIGHING.
AND WE'RE TRYING TO PREVENT SOME
REAL CONSEQUENCES. NOW. THESE
ARE NOT ACADEMIC EXERCISES, THE
REGULATIONS AND THE COSTS THAT
ARE BEING LAID ON A LAYER AND ON
TOP OF EACH OTHER. WHEN IT COMES
TO OUR SUPPLY CHAIN REPORTS ARE
REAL. AND SO AS WE DEVELOP THIS
STATEWIDE FREIGHT POLICY, AND AS
WE DEBATE, UM, POLICIES THAT
IMPACT THE PORTS DON'T SUGARCOAT
IT FOR US. YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO
KNOW WHAT THE REAL CONSEQUENCES
ARE SO THAT WE CAN MAKE
DECISIONS THAT WILL IMPROVE OUR
ECONOMY BUT ALSO PRESERVE JOBS
IN OUR STATE. THANK YOU LIKE TO
ADD SOMETHING ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
FONG IS THIS IS A MAJOR EQUITY
ISSUE. UM IN SAN FRANCISCO. OUR
TRUCKS ARE TRUCKERS ARE
OVERWHELMINGLY BLACK OWNED SMALL
BUSINESSES AND IF I LOOK ACROSS
THE CITY IN TERMS OF BLACK OWNED
SMALL BUSINESSES, TRUCKING WOULD
BE RIGHT UP THERE. AND SO THESE
THESE REQUIREMENTS ARE GOING TO
HIT VULNERABLE POPULATIONS ARE
GOING TO HIT PEOPLE WHO ARE
DOING QUITE WELL AND IN THEIR AS
THEIR OWN ENTERPRISE, AND THIS
REALLY HASN'T BEEN CONSIDERED
ENOUGH. AGREE WITH YOU. 110%
CERTAINLY IN THE CENTRAL VALLEY,
BEING A TRUCK DRIVER IS A
CRITICAL PATH TO THE MIDDLE
CLASS. AND SO THIS IS SOMETHING
THAT IS VERY NEAR AND DEAR TO
ME. UM AND THAT'S WHAT THAT'S
WHY. I THINK I'M SO FOCUSED ON
ON IMPROVING OUR SUPPLY CHAIN
BECAUSE I THE CONSEQUENCES NOT
ONLY IMPACT, UM, THE ECONOMY,
BUT THEY IMPACT REAL PEOPLE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
FOR YOUR TESTIMONY REALLY
APPRECIATE THIS VERY ROBUST
DISCUSSION. UM I JUST WANT TO
UNDERSCORE THE REQUESTS OF VICE
CHAIR FONG IS TO PROVIDE US WITH
A PLAN. SO THAT WE CAN DISSECTED
, ANALYZE IT SO THAT WE CAN.
CERTAINLY AS YOU SUBMITTED TO US
, WE WILL INCORPORATE INTO AS
PART OF OUR WHITE PAPER FOR THE
LEGISLATURE AND ALSO FOR THE
GOVERNOR'S OFFICE. AND I ALSO
UNDER UNDERSCORE BEFORE WE AS WE
GET READY TO TRANSITION, THE
COOPERATION FROM OUR SECRETARY
TRANSPORTATION TOKES AH, UM AND
UNDERSTAND THAT THIS
COLLABORATION THAT EXISTS BUT
I'M ALSO AS WE TRANSITION TO OUR
NEXT PANEL. IF YOU CAN PREPARE
YOURSELF, UM, THE SURPRISE THAT
THERE IS NO COLLABORATION CARD.
UM, THAT SURPRISED ME THAT
DECISIONS ARE BEING MADE WITHOUT
BRINGING STAKEHOLDERS TO THE
TABLE. AND SO I WANT TO
UNDERSCORE THAT AS WE TRANSITION
TO OUR NEXT PANEL, SO THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. WE APPRECIATE YES.
YOU KNOW, I'VE SAT THROUGH A LOT
OF COMMITTEE HEARINGS. I JUST
WANT TO THANK THIS PANEL YOU
ANSWERED WITH SUCH SUCCINCT NOUS
AND YOU WERE TREMENDOUSLY
INFORMATIVE. SO I'M REALLY
GRATEFUL FOR EACH OF YOU. YOU
ARE IN COMMAND OF THE SUBJECT
MATTER, AND YOU DID A GREAT JOB
THE REST OF THE DAY. THIS IS A
THIS IS A HIGH HIGH WATERMARK.
THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. WE WANT TO INVITE OUR NEXT
PANEL UP, WHICH IS A CALIFORNIA
EXPORTS. UM AND THEY'RE
EFFECTIVE EFFECTS OF ON THE
GLOBAL MARKET. UM WE'LL START
OFF WITH MRS AUDREY. UM BETTER
COURT COURT BETANCOURT. SHE WILL
BE OUR FIRST PRESENTER. YES.
JAMES JOHANSSON AND ALSO REIGNED
THOMPSON. THANK YOU ALL VERY
MUCH FOR BEING HERE AND BEING
PART OF THIS PANEL. THIS UH,
ROBUST CONVERSATION THAT WE'RE
HAVING. UM WE WANT TO JUST
REMIND YOU THAT YOU HAVE BETWEEN
6 TO 8 MINUTES FOR YOUR
PRESENTATION. WE HOPE THAT YOU
WILL INCORPORATED BY PART OF
YOUR INTRODUCTION OF WHO YOU ARE
. AND INDUSTRY, THE AREA IN
WHICH YOU REPRESENT AND AGAIN
THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH, AND
WE'LL START WITH YOU. THERE WE
GO. WE GOT IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH
TODAY THAT TO THE CHAIR AND THE
COMMITTEE FOR TAKING THIS TIME.
MY NAME IS AUDREY BETTENCOURT.
I'M THE CEO OF THE ALMOND
ALLIANCE. I APPRECIATE THIS
OPPORTUNITY TODAY AND TRULY
APPRECIATE THE COMMITTEE'S TIME
AND EFFORT SEEKING SOLUTIONS TO
THE ISSUES OF OUR PORTS ARE
IMPORTERS AND OUR EXPORTERS AND
BRINGING US TOGETHER. HMM REALLY
POURED INFRASTRUCTURE AND
FUNCTIONALITY OPENED THE WORLD
TO CALIFORNIA'S BOUNTIFUL
AGRICULTURE AND INCREDIBLE
INNOVATION, AND IT IS WHAT HAS
MADE CALIFORNIA THE GLOBAL
ECONOMIC POWERHOUSE THAT IT IS
IN THE LAST CENTURY. BUT AS
YOU'VE SEEN ALREADY TODAY, AND
YOU'LL HEAR TODAY AS WELL, WHAT
GOT US HERE ISN'T GOING TO GET
US THERE. IN THE SIXTH CENTURY
ALMONDS ARE THE LARGEST
AGRICULTURAL EXPORT OF
CALIFORNIA. AND ONE OF THE
FOURTH LARGEST AGRICULTURAL
EXPORTS OF THE UNITED STATES.
CONTRIBUTING $20 BILLION IN
ECONOMIC REVENUE TO THE STATE
EACH YEAR BROUGHT TO YOU BY 7600
FARMS. 110,000 EMPLOYEES
CALIFORNIA'S FARMERS PRODUCE 80%
OF THE WORLD'S SUPPLY OF ALMONDS
AND ALMOND INGREDIENTS, 70% OF
WHICH IS SHIPPED AROUND THE
WORLD. UNTIL RECENTLY SHIPPED
THE MAJORITY OF OUR ALMONDS
THROUGH THE PORT OF OAKLAND. BUT
IN A POST PANDEMIC WORLD AND FOR
A MYRIAD OF REASONS THIS WE
ANTICIPATE WILL NO LONGER BE THE
CASE. PANDEMIC SUPPLY CHAIN
DISRUPTIONS WREAKED HAVOC ON THE
ALMOND INDUSTRY, ALONG WITH OUR
FELLOW COMMODITIES DEMAND FOR
EMPTY CONTAINERS AT AN ALL TIME
HIGH RESULTED IN GLOBAL SHIPPING
CARRIERS SKIPPING OAKLAND
ALTOGETHER, LEAVING ALMONDS ON
THE DOCKS AND A SURPLUS OF
SUPPLY ON OUR SHORE'S CREATING A
CASH FLOW CRISIS THAT DEVASTATED
ARE SMALL FARMERS FOR THREE
YEARS. OVER THE COURSE OF SIX
MONTHS IN 2022 ALMONDS ALONE
LOST $2 BILLION IN PRICE
DEGRADATION ALONE. IN 2000 TO
2020 22, THE ALMOND INDUSTRY
MADE HEADLINES FOR CREATING A
MULTIMODAL MULTI PORT NETWORK TO
GET OUR PRODUCTS MOVING AGAIN.
PARTNERING WITH RAIL, OCEAN
CARRIERS AND TRUCKING AND EVEN
THE PORTER VOCAL UNDE TO MOVE
PRODUCT THROUGH ALTERNATIVE
PORTS, INCLUDING LONG BEACH, LOS
ANGELES, HOUSTON, NORFOLK AND
SAVANNAH. PRICING HAS RETURNED
TO PRE PANDEMIC LEVELS AND SOME
CARRIERS HAVE RESTORED SERVICES
OUT OF OAKLAND. SOME MAY NEVER
RETURN LIKE THE HAT BAG MIDDLE
EASTERN ROUTES, WHICH IS OUR
SECOND LARGEST EXPORT MARKET. WE
HAVE NOT SEEN AN INCREASE TO PRE
PANDEMIC LEVELS OF SHIPPING OUT
OF OAKLAND. UNFORTUNATELY AND WE
PREPARE FOR THE NEXT ROUND OF
CHALLENGES THAT PUT ADDITIONAL
PRESSURES ON THE FUNCTIONALITY
OF OUR CALIFORNIA PORTS. AS
YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD THE CARB
NEW MANDATES THAT WILL REQUIRE
ALL NEW PURCHASED RANGE FLEETS
OF TRUCKS THAT MOVE FREIGHT VERY
SHORT DISTANCES AND THEN OUT OF
PORTS. OR FOR INTERMODAL
FACILITIES MUST BE ZERO
EMISSIONS VEHICLES STARTING IN
2024. WITH THE ENTIRETY OF THE
DRAINAGE FLEET. BEING YOUR
OMISSION VEHICLE BY 2035 IS THE
NEXT SERIOUS THREAT TO OUR PORTS
, FUNCTIONALITY, OUR EQUIPMENT
AVAILABILITY, COST TO MARKET AND
THE DECIDING FACTOR OF WHETHER
CALIFORNIA ALMONDS WILL CONTINUE
TO CHOOSE OAKLAND AS ITS PORTS
OF PREFERENCE. AFTER ALMONDS
HAVE BEEN HOLD. HOLD SHELDON
PROCESS THEY'RE SHIPPED TO
EITHER DOMESTIC RETAIL MARKETS
OR PORTS OR EXPORT PORTS FROM
FOR MARKET. A RECENT STUDY FOUND
THAT THE MEDIAN ROAD DISTANCE
FOR ALMOND PROCESSORS TO THE
COURT OF OAKLAND IS 111,111
MILES, AND THE MEDIAN ROAD
DISTANCE TO THE PORTS OF LONG
BEACH IS 324 MILES ABOUT 42% OF
OUR PROCESSORS ARE POSITIONED
WITHIN 100 MILES OF THE PORT OF
OAKLAND. BUT NO PROCESSOR IS
LOCATED WITHIN 100 MILES OF THE
PORT OF LONG BEACH. A THIRD OF
THE PROCESSORS ANALYZED ARE MORE
THAN 150 MILES FROM BOTH PORTS.
FOR PROCESSORS. THE LARGE
DIFFERENCE IN PROXIMITY DEPORT
WILL LIKELY MAKE THE INDUSTRY
MORE RELIANT ON THE PORCH OF
OAKLAND OR ADDITIONAL RAIL
INFRASTRUCTURE COULD BE BUILT TO
TRANSPORT ALMONDS TO THE PORT OF
LONG BEACH. HOLLER SCHELLER AND
PROCESSORS, LOCATED FURTHER FROM
BOTH PORTS WILL BE FORCED TO
INCREASE FEES TO THE FARMER TO
MAKE UP FOR THE CHALLENGE AND
THE CHARGING TIME DIFFERENCES.
ACCORDING THE TERRAIN ECONOMIST
MARK MATT CLARK. THE CURRENT
ZERO EMISSIONS MEDIUM AND HEAVY
DUTY TRUCK REGULATIONS, IMPACT
OF VERY TARGETED AND IMPORTANT
REGION OF AGRICULTURE IN 2021,
CALIFORNIA REPRESENTED 11% OF
THE NATIONAL AGRA SEATS AND IS
THE LARGEST EGG STATE. THE
IMPLICATIONS OF THE COST OF THE
FARMER AND THE CONSUMER COULD BE
FAR REACHING IF DRIVING RANGE
FOR ZERO MISSION. MEDIUM AND
HEAVY DUTY VEHICLES IS FOUND TO
BE SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THAN THAT
OF TRADITIONAL MEDIUM AND HEAVY
DUTY VEHICLES. THERE WILL LIKELY
BE SOME SIGNIFICANT HOLES IN THE
AGRICULTURAL AND FOOD SUPPLY
CHAIN THAT COULD MAKE THE SYSTEM
MUCH LESS RESILIENT. AT THE
ALMOND ALLIANCE. WE LIKE TO SAY
WE LEAD WITH SOLUTIONS WITH
THESE CHALLENGES COMING TO THE
PORTS AND OUR SUPPLY CHAIN.
WE'RE GOING BACK TO THE BASICS
INFRASTRUCTURE, NOT FOR THE 21ST
CENTURY FOR THE 22ND CENTURY.
THE MODERN SUPPLY CHAIN MUST BE
INVESTED IN LIKE YESTERDAY.
EXPEDITED DEVELOPMENT FOR
CRITICAL INLAND INFRASTRUCTURE,
INCLUDING HYDROGEN ELECTRIC GRID
CAPACITY, ELECTRICAL ENERGY
GENERATION CONNECTIVITY, RAIL
INLAND PORTS, MEETING WITH
CLIMATE GOALS OF OUR STATE
CANNOT HAPPEN WITHOUT EXPEDITING
INVESTMENT, PUBLIC AND PRIVATE.
IN THE BASIC INFRASTRUCTURE
NEEDED TO ACHIEVE THEM. OAKLAND
IS A PERFECTLY BALANCED PURPORT
THANKS TO AGRICULTURE. AS THE
LARGEST AGRICULTURAL EXPORT
PORTANTINO NATION. IT IMPORTS
50% AND EXPORTS 50. IN THE PORTS
WORLD. THIS IS THE ENVY OF THE
WORLD. WE MAY FAIL TO MAKE
OAKLAND IF WE FAIL TO MAKE
OAKLAND PRIORITY PORTER AGAIN
AND INVEST IN THE MODERN
INFRASTRUCTURE NETWORK TO
SUPPORT IT, BOTH FROM THE
CENTRAL VALLEY TO THE COAST.
WE'LL LOSE IT. THAT WE CAN'T
AFFORD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. OUR NEXT PRESENTER.
GOOD MORNING CHAIR GIBSON AND
MEMBERS. I'M JAMIE JOHANSSON,
PRESIDENT OF THE CALIFORNIA FARM
BUREAU. MUSSEL FARMER UP IN
BUTTE COUNTY. FROM ALL OF US, WE
MAKE OLIVE OIL AND SELL SOME
CITRIX UP THERE AS WELL. AND I
WANT TO THANK YOU FOR INCLUDING
AGRICULTURE AND CALIFORNIA FARM
BUREAU IN THIS HEARING TODAY,
CALIFORNIA FARM BUREAU
REPRESENTS NEARLY 30,000 FARMERS
AND RANCHERS THROUGHOUT THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA OVER 80% OF
OUR MEMBERSHIP IS MADE UP OF
SMALL FAMILY FARMS. AS WE KNOW
THE GLOBAL COVID 19 PANDEMIC
DEVASTATED COMMUNITIES AND
INDUSTRIES AROUND THE WORLD AND
AGRICULTURE WAS NO EXCEPTION DUE
TO SUPPLY CHAIN CHALLENGES.
CALIFORNIA FARMERS LOST, YOU
KNOW OVER $2 BILLION IN EXPORT
SALES. AND OF COURSE, AS WE JUST
HEARD FROM FROM AUBREY ALMONDS,
BEING ONE OF THE HARDEST HIT IN
THAT SITUATION, WHICH CERTAINLY
OTHER COMMODITIES, FELT IT AND
CONTINUE TO FEEL IT, I WOULD SAY
THAT THE FULL RECOVERY OF COVID
AND ALSO DROUGHT HAVING DRASTIC
IMPACTS ON WHAT WE EXPORT OUT OF
CALIFORNIA. WE SHOULD POINT OUT
THAT OVER A LITTLE OVER 40% OF
WHAT WE GROW IN CALIFORNIA NEEDS
TO FIND AN EXPORT MARKET WHETHER
THAT'S OVER AN OCEAN OR OVER A
BORDER. UM AND IT'S EASY TO SAY
THAT IN U. S TRADE, AGRICULTURAL
TRADE REPRESENT AROUND 15%
COMING FROM CALIFORNIA. SO A
TREMENDOUS IMPACT THAT WE HAVE,
UM GLOBALLY WHEN IT COMES TO
FEEDING IN THIS WORLD. REALLY
THERE. THERE WAS A 17% DROP FROM
2020 DUE TO SHIPPING CONTAINER
SHORTAGES, IMPORT CONGESTION
ISSUES. SOME OF THE TOP
COMMODITIES AFFECTED BY THESE
DISRUPTIONS WERE TREE NUTS, WINE
AND RICE. WITHIN THE FIRST SIX
MONTHS OF THE PANDEMIC 80% OF
SHIPPING CONTAINERS AS WE KNOW
LEFT CALIFORNIA PORTS EMPTY
SHIPPERS OPTED TO LEAVE SOUTHERN
CALIFORNIA PORTS AND RETURN
DIRECTLY TO ASIAN MARKETS
INSTEAD OF STOPPING IN OAKLAND
TO PICK UP AGRICULTURAL EXPORTS,
ULTIMATELY, WITH THESE ORDERS
AND SHIPMENTS LEFT UNFILLED.
FOREIGN MARKETS TURNED TO OTHER
COUNTRIES TO SUPPLY THEIR GOODS.
THESE COUNTRIES ARE OFTEN ABLE
TO SELL THEIR COMMODITIES THAT
ARE MUCH LOWER PRICE DUE TO
THEIR LOW PRODUCTION COSTS. THIS
LEAVING CALIFORNIA FARMERS
STRUGGLING TO COMPETE WHILE
MEETING THE STATE'S BURDENSOME
REGULATIONS, SOME OF WHICH HAVE
ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSED HERE.
THIS PROBLEM WILL SOON BE
EXACERBATED BY THE IMPENDING
ADVANCED CLEAN FLEETS AS BEEN
DISCUSSED IN THE PREVIOUS PANEL.
UH THESE ADVANCED CLEAN FLEET
REGULATIONS, WHICH WILL BEGIN ON
JANUARY. 1ST OF 2020 FOR THIS
REGULATION WILL DIRECTLY AFFECT
THE PORTS, RAGE TRUCKS AND FLEET
OWNERS THAT MAKE INTERNATIONAL
TRADE POSSIBLE. IF WE TRY TO
ADDRESS IF WE TRY TO ADDRESS
THESE ISSUES, WE MUST LOOK TO
THE EFFECTS OF THE ADVANCED
CLEAN FLEET ON OUR FOOD SUPPLY
AND THE ABILITY TO FEED THE
STATE NATION AND THE WORLD,
ACCORDING TO THE AMERICAN FARM
BUREAU, PRODUCTION COSTS FOR
FARMERS AND RANCHERS ROSE 18% IN
2022 WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION OF
THE ADVANCED CLEAN FLEET. WE
ANTICIPATE ANOTHER LARGE
INCREASE IN OUR COSTS FOR
CALIFORNIA MEMBERS. ALSO
REMEMBER THAT ON OUR
AGRICULTURAL FARMS. WE'RE
LOOKING AT A ZERO MISSION
MANDATE OF 2035 WHEN IT COMES TO
OFF ROAD VEHICLES, WHICH WOULD
INCLUDE R TRACTORS, FOOD PRICES
AS WE ALL KNOW THE INSTABILITY
AROUND THE WORLD AND ALSO
INFLATION HERE IN THE UNITED
STATES. FOOD PRICES CONTINUE TO
INFLATE AND WE SEE THIS TREND
WILL CONTINUE, WITH
TRANSPORTATION COSTS RISING AS
EVERY STEP OF THE FOOD SUPPLY
SUPPLY CHAIN. FARM BUREAU
SUPPORTS THE USE OF TECHNOLOGY
TO IMPORT IMPROVE EFFICIENCY AT
THE PORTS WITH THE DEVELOPMENT
OF TECHNOLOGY PORTS MAY BE ABLE
TO OVERCOME CURRENT OBSTACLES
WHICH CAUSED COSTLY AND DAMAGING
DELAYS. EVEN WITH THESE RECENT
SETBACKS, CALIFORNIA CONTINUES
TO FEED THE NATION AND THE WORLD
. HOWEVER WE URGE OUR
LEGISLATORS, REGULATORS AND
ADMINISTRATION TO LOOK AT THE
EFFECTS OF LAWS. THAT ARE
RESTRICTING OUR PROVEN HEALTH,
SAFE AND NUTRITIOUS PRODUCT FROM
REACHING THE SHELVES OF THOSE
WHO MOST NEED IT. WE VIEW THE
INTERACTION OF AGRICULTURE AND
OUR PORTS IN CALIFORNIA IS THE
ULTIMATE SUCCESS WHEN RUNNING
EFFICIENTLY OF THE RURAL AND
URBAN INTERFACE WE ARE VERY
PROUD OF, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST
MADE TO FIND OUT THAT PART OF
OAKLAND HAS DROPPED NOW FROM THE
FOURTH TO THE 10TH LARGEST
SHIPPING CONTAINER BECAUSE WE
OFTEN BRAG ABOUT HALF AND MAYBE
IT'S TIME 60% OF WILL GO THROUGH
THE PORTAL OAKLAND BEING
AGRICULTURALLY RELATED. AND THAT
THAT TIED TOGETHER IS AN
IMPORTANT POINT THAT MAKES
AGRICULTURAL ESSENTIAL. TO
CALIFORNIA BUT ALSO
AGRICULTURISTS INTIAL TO OUR
URBAN CENTERS. SO THANK YOU FOR
HOLDING THESE HEARINGS. WE LOOK,
I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR QUESTIONS
AND AGAIN. THANK YOU FOR
INCLUDING AGRICULTURE, ONE OF
OUR MOST IMPORTANT INDUSTRIES IN
CALIFORNIA, NOT JUST TO
CALIFORNIANS BUT GLOBALLY. THANK
YOU, MR JOHANNSON. RAIN PLEASE
PROCEED. HI I'M RAIN THOMPSON,
VICE PRESIDENT OF AT SUN CAST
FOR GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS AND
SUSTAINABILITY. I REALLY WANT TO
THANK YOU FOR THE CANDID
CONVERSATION ABOUT THE HURDLES
THAT WE'RE FACING. SUN CAST IS
THE LARGEST EXPORTER OF US
CITRUSY AROUND THE WORLD. WE ARE
COOPERATIVE SO WERE OWNED BY
1000, ARIZONA AND CALIFORNIA
GROWERS. WE PREDOMINANTLY MARKET
JUST US FRUIT. THAT IS OUR FOCUS
AND OUR BUSINESS MODEL. THE
AVERAGE SIZE OF OUR FARMER IS 50
ACRES, SO WE DO REALLY REMEMBER.
SHIP TENDS TO BE ON THE SMALLER
SIDE, BUT COLLECTIVELY, WE HAVE
A VERY STRONG PLACE IN THE
MARKET. I WANT TO GIVE YOU A
GLOBAL PERSPECTIVE OF HOW
IMPORTANT BOTH OUR PORTS AND OUR
TRUCKERS ARE TO US AND OUR
COMPETITIVENESS. WHAT WE SAW IN
COVID IS THAT WE SAW, YOU KNOW
REALLY. IT SHOWED US THE FRAGILE
SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE WHAT WE LOOK
AT AND SHIPPING EVERY SINGLE DAY
WE SHIP ABOUT 7 MILLION CARTONS
AROUND THE WORLD. WE ARE ARE
LARGEST MARKETS ARE. CHINA JAPAN
, SOUTH KOREA, MALAYSIA,
SINGAPORE, INDONESIA, UM AND
THEY'RE ALL GOING OUT OF THE
WEST COAST PORTS EVERY DAY.
WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, DO
WE NEED TO MOVE THAT SHIPMENT
FROM OAKLAND TO L, A LONG BEACH
AND EVEN WHINY ME? UM AND THAT'S
WHAT WE DID DURING COVID.
OAKLAND WAS BECOMING SO
CUMBERSOME. UM UH, CARRIERS WERE
SKIPPING OAKLAND ALTOGETHER. SO
WE SHIFTED MOST OF OUR EXPORTS
OUT OF L A AND LONG BEACH, AND
WE EVEN DID PRIVATE CHARTERS TO
MEET CUSTOMER DEMANDS. RIGHT
NOW. THIS YEAR, WE'RE AT A 5050
SPLIT BETWEEN OAKLAND AND LOS
ANGELES. BUT WHAT HAPPENED IS
BECAUSE WE WERE SO DELAYED IN
SHIPPING. WE USUALLY GO FROM A
30 TO 40 DAY SHIPPING TO OUR
MAJOR DESTINATIONS IN ASIA, BUT
WE WENT UP TO A 60 DAY SHIPPING
IS THAT OUR PRODUCT WOULD ARRIVE
IN THOSE MARKETS ROTTING. UM
COMPLETELY DELAYED IN
PREPARATION FOR GOING OUT INTO
THE MARKETPLACE. AND THEY HAD,
UM UPON ARRIVAL, AND WE HAD TO
PAY EXORBITANT FEES BECAUSE YOU
HAVE TO PAY THE CUSTOMER. IF YOU
HAVE A PRODUCT THAT ARISE
ROTTEN. THEY'RE EXPECTING THAT
PRODUCT. THEY'VE MADE MARKETING
PLANS AND MOVEMENT PLANS OF THAT
PRODUCT INTO THEIR MAJOR GROCERY
STORES. SO UM, COUNTRIES STARTED
LOOKING AT MAJOR IMPORTERS OF
THOSE COUNTRIES. ASIAN COUNTRIES
STARTED LOOKING AT FOREIGN
COMPETITORS, NOT US SUPPLIERS.
THEY STARTED LOOKING AT EGYPT
THAT CAN PRODUCE SIGNIFICANTLY
CHEAPER FOR THE UNITED STATES
AND ALSO DELIVERS QUALITY
CITRUSY, SOUTH AFRICA, CHILE AND
ARGENTINA AND AUSTRALIA. ALSO,
THE ADVANTAGE THAT THOSE
COMPETITORS HAVE IS THAT THEY
HAVE A MUCH LOWER TARIFF THAN
THE UNITED STATES. SO THOUGH WE
ARE A PREFERRED PRODUCT THAT IS
QUICKLY DWINDLING IN THESE
MARKETS, THEY ARE GETTING USED
TO THE FLAVOR OF A QUALITY
PRODUCT THAT CAN ARRIVE RELIABLY
AND BE SIGNIFICANTLY CHEAPER
THAN USC TRESS. WE ARE DEEPLY
CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. NOT ONLY
DID THE POOR CONGESTION BUT ALSO
THE TRADE DISPUTES HAVE REALLY
CREATED, UM WHERE WE'RE STARTING
TO SEE THIS GAP WHERE WE WERE A
DOMINANT PLAYER IN MAJOR MARKETS
, AND WE COULD DEMAND THE
PREFERENCE FOR OUR PRODUCT AND
THE PRICE THAT WE NEEDED, AND I
THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO
UNDERSTAND. IN LOOKING AT HOW
IMPORTANT OUR INFRASTRUCTURE
POOR INFRASTRUCTURE IS IN
ENSURING RELIABLE, UM, EXPORTS
OUT OF OUR OUT OF OUR PORTS. THE
BIDEN ADMINISTRATION, WHICH SUN
KISSED, SITS ON THE DEPARTMENT
OF COMMERCE ADVISORY COMMITTEE
ON SUPPLY CHAIN WITH SOUTHWEST
AIRLINES, AMAZON, PEPSICO AND
OTHERS WHERE WE TALK ABOUT THE
NATIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS,
UM FOR THE NATION, AND WE'RE
TALKING A LOT ABOUT THESE ISSUES
HERE, SO I'M GLAD THAT, UM, PART
OF OAKLAND, DANNY SHARED A LOT
OF THE REAL CHALLENGES THAT
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT OUR CLIMATE GOALS.
BUT HOW DO WE MARRY THAT WITH
OUR REAL WITH OUR OTHER GOALS,
WHICH IS OUR INCREASING EXPORTS,
INCREASING EXPORTS. WE KNOW, UM
HAS A MAJOR IMPACT ON JOBS AND
JOB CREATION NOT JUST HERE FOR
CALIFORNIA BUT ALSO AFFORD THE
MIDWEST, UM SON, CAST WITH ADM.
CARGILL TYSON FOODS AND OTHERS
ALONG WITH AUBREY AS WELL AND
WAS VERY FOCUSED ON THE OCEAN
SHIPPING REFORM ACT THAT WE
CRAFTED AND GOT PASSED AND
SIGNED BY AND IN BIDEN. BECAUSE.
THOSE OTHER ENTITIES FROM THE
MIDWEST. LARGE COMPANIES ARE
FOCUSED ON GETTING PRODUCT OUT
TO WEST COAST PORTS. BUT LAST
YEAR WE DID MEET WITH GEORGIA
AND THE PORTAL GEORGIA DURING
THE PANDEMIC, THE PORTS OF
GEORGIA WAS EASILY ABLE TO PUT
UP IN INLAND PORTS WITHIN A
YEAR. UM AND THEY ARE NOW
BECOMING AN E V HUB AND
ATTRACTING A LOT OF MAJOR
INDUSTRIES. IF YOU'RE A SHELF,
UM, STUDY PRODUCT, UM, YOU CAN
GO TO THOSE PORTS AN OPTION.
IT'S HARDER FOR US TO SIT TRIST
TO DO THAT. BUT I'LL SELL YOU
THE FLIP SIDE AS YOU MAY HAVE US
AS A CUSTOMER. UM, THAT'S THAT.
MAINLY HAS THE WEST COAST PORTS
AS AN OPTION, BUT AS PRICES
INCREASE FOR SHIPPING, IT
BECOMES HARDER TO STAY
COMPETITIVE IN GLOBAL
MARKETPLACES, AND WE HAVE TO
SHIP THAT SHIFT THAT PRODUCT
MORE TO THE DOMESTIC MARKET. UM,
WHICH IS A WHOLE OTHER ISSUE.
BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT I
WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU GUYS TO DO
IS NOT JUST FOCUS ON SEEING THE
CALIFORNIA PORTS BUT REALLY GET
OUT TO THE REST OF THE NATION
AND THE WORLD AND SEE WHAT'S
POSSIBLE WITH PORTS. YES WE HAVE
A VERY DIFFERENT UM, BUSINESS
STRUCTURE FOR OUR PORTS. HERE.
IT'S COMPETITIVE SO CUSTOMERS
CAN CHOP AND CHANGE. WE CAN GO
FROM OAKLAND L A AND PRIVATE
PORTS. WHICH WE ARE LOOKING AT
MORE AND MORE BECAUSE THEY ARE
MORE RELIABLE. UM BUT IF YOU GO
TO SOME OF THE OTHER BUSINESS
STRUCTURES OF GEORGIA, THE EAST
COAST AND THEN EVEN SOME OF THE
ASIAN MARKETS YOU'LL SEE KIND OF
WHAT ARE THE DIFFERENT THINGS
THAT WE COULD IMPLEMENT HERE. I
THINK WE HAVE TO BE HONEST ABOUT
THE CHALLENGES AND I'M REALLY
THANKFUL THAT THE PORTS BROUGHT
UP THOSE CHALLENGES. THAT WE'RE
FACING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ON A
LIMITED REAL ESTATE FOOTPRINT.
HOW DO WE USE THAT SPACE
EFFICIENTLY? WHAT EFFICIENTLY
WHAT INVESTMENTS DO WE REALLY
NEED TO MAKE TO MEET THE GOALS
THAT WE WANT TO MEET? NOT ONLY
DO WE FOCUS ON BEING ZERO
EMISSIONS, BUT ALSO ENSURING
THAT WE CAN DO RELIABLE DELIVERY
AROUND THE WORLD BECAUSE THAT'S
THE ONLY WAY WE ARE GOING TO
REMAIN COMPETITIVE IN A GLOBAL
MARKETPLACE, AND YOU SEE THAT
STATES AND COUNTRIES THAT
RECOGNIZED THE IMPORTANCE OF
EXPORTS THAT IS THEIR SOLE FOCUS
IS CREATING AN INFRASTRUCTURE.
NOT ONLY ARE THE PORTS BUT ALL
THE NODES GOING INTO THE PORTS.
THAT THEY ARE REALLY
FACILITATING SMOOTH TRADE AND
TRANSITION. I T INFRASTRUCTURE
FOR REAL TIME DATA IS CRITICALLY
IMPORTANT SO WE CAN MAKE ALL OF
OUR PLANNINGS. WE CAN MOVE
SHIPMENTS MOVE TRUCKS TO WHERE
THEY NEED TO BE. UM AND I THINK
OF COURSE, EVERYONE IS ALSO
TALKED ABOUT, UM, THE TRUCK
ROLL, WHICH I DON'T THINK I NEED
TO REITERATE SOME MORE BUT
HAPPEN TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. I
HOPE THAT THAT HELP PROVIDE YOU
KNOW WHAT WE LOOK AT IN TERMS OF
THE COMPETITIVE NATURE. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TESTIMONY
. THE ENTIRE PANEL REALLY
APPRECIATE YOUR INSIDE YOUR
EXPERTISE INTO THIS AREA. UM
RAISE YOU TALKED ABOUT
CHALLENGES, AND I WANT TO JUST
EXPOUND ON THAT JUST FOR A
MOMENT. WHAT IS THE BIGGEST
CHALLENGE FACING YOUR INDUSTRY?
IN TERMS OF AVAILABILITY TERMS
TO EXPORTING GOODS. WHAT WHAT DO
YOU WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE?
WHAT'S THE BEARERS THERE THAT
KEEP YOU FROM CONTINUING ON
MOVING FORWARD. DOES THAT MAKE
SENSE? SEE? YEAH I THINK ONE OF
THE BIG THINGS THAT WE HAVE
RIGHT NOW. WE SAW IT IN COVID.
LUCKILY TIMES HAVE GONE BACK TO
NORMAL, WHICH IS GREAT AND
PRICING HAS GONE DOWN, WHICH IS
SIGNIFICANT, BUT IT'S REALLY
PLANNING BECAUSE WE HAVE TO
COORDINATE THE STEAMSHIP LINES
WILL GIVE US A DATE IN TERMS OF
END GATE OF WHEN YOU GET YOUR
CAR GRID CARGO TO THE POOR, BUT
THEN WE HAVE TO CHECK WITH THE
TERMINAL OPERATORS TO DETERMINE
ACTUALLY WHEN WE CAN DROP OFF
OUR CARGO. WE HAVE TO ORGANIZE
AN EMPTY CONTAINER GOING INTO
THE VALLEY TO THE PACKING HOUSE
TO PICK UP. THE CARGO AND THEN
TAKE IT BECAUSE WE HAVE A
PERISHABLE PRODUCT AND WE HAVE
VERY LIMITED TIME. WE'RE ON A
VERY TIGHT WINDOW OF MAKING SURE
THAT WE DELIVER FRESHNESS VS A
SHELF STUDY. SO UM, I THINK THAT
DATA HAVING THAT DATA AVAILABLE
SO WE CAN MAKE BETTER PLANNING
DECISIONS IS IMPORTANT. UM AND I
THINK YOU KNOW WHERE THE
GOVERNMENT CAN PLAY A ROLE IN
THAT, AS THEY CAN INVEST IN THAT
DATA AND THAT YOU'VE SEEN THAT
WITH THE FLOW PROJECT AT THE
FEDERAL LEVEL THAT THE
ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN WORKING
ON. BUT THERE ARE SOME OTHER
DATA NEEDS THAT I THINK WE CAN
MAKE AS A COULD DO AS AN
APPROPRIATIONS. ASK UM, TO
REALLY PUT THAT INFLUX OF CASH
INTO THAT REAL TIME DATA WOULD
BE IMPORTANT. VICE CHAIR, PHªN.
UH THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM,
CERTAINLY. THANK YOU ALL FOR
BEING HERE. AS I MENTIONED IN MY
EARLIER COMMENTS, PRESIDENT
CENTRAL VALLEY THE RECOGNITION
OF AGRICULTURE IS CRITICALLY
IMPORTANT. IF YOU LOOK AT
HILLARY PRESIDENT CURRAN, MANY
OF YOUR MEMBERS FARM IN THOSE
AREAS AND I'M PROUD TO REPRESENT
THOSE AREAS WHERE 44% OF
CALIFORNIA'S TOTAL EGG
PRODUCTION VALUE SO OUR REGION
ALONE IS THAT AND I WANT TO. I
WANT TO THANK MR JOHANSSON'S
LAST POINT ABOUT THE SYNERGY AND
THE SYMBIOTIC RELATIONSHIP
BETWEEN OUR CENTRAL CENTRAL
VALLEY FARMERS AND OUR URBAN
PORTS AND THE FACT THAT WE HAVE
WE SUCCEED TOGETHER. UM I DO
WANT TO JUST YOU KNOW, AS I
TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, UM I THINK
A LOT OF TIMES WE TALK VERY 3000
FT LEVEL ABOUT. YOU KNOW THESE
COSTS AND THESE THESE
REGULATIONS, BUT HOW DOES IT
AFFECT YOUR YOUR YOUR SUPPLY
CHAIN PROCESS AS WE AS MENTIONED
IN OTHER, UM, HEARINGS, YOU
KNOW, IT'S A SYSTEM OF SYSTEMS.
SO YOU KIND OF OUTLINED, UM YOU
KNOW, RAIN ABOUT JUST, YOU KNOW,
THE PROCESS OF SCHEDULING AND
THE CONTAINERS AND GETTING A
THAT TRUCKER TO PICK UP THAT
CONTAINER AND THEN TO THE POOR,
BUT LIKE WHEN IT COMES TO THE TO
THE RACETRACK ROLE, LIKE HOW
DOES THAT LIKE IN REAL AND IN A
IN A REALISTIC WAY HAS AFFECT
YOUR OPERATIONS. UM. WELL I
THINK YOU KNOW, AND JUST KIND OF
WHAT WE LOOK AT. WE LOOK AT OUR
TRUCKING AND FREIGHT COST BOTH
TO PORTS AS WELL AS ACROSS THE
UNITED STATES TO THE EAST COAST.
WE ARE LARGE SUPPLIER TO THE
EAST COAST. UM AND SO WE HAVE
COMPETITION ON THE EAST COAST OF
OTHER CHEAPER FOREIGN SUPPLIERS
THAT CAN ACTUALLY SELL IT HALF
THE PRICE WE CAN, BECAUSE ONCE
YOU FACTOR IN OUR PRODUCTION
COSTS HERE IN CALIFORNIA, AND
THEN THE FREIGHT COSTS, WHICH IS
ABOUT $15. IT WAS A LOT LESS. IT
WAS ABOUT ABOUT $15 TO EAST
COAST. BUT IF THEY BRING IN A
SHIP FROM CHILE OR ARGENTINA,
THEY CAN ACTUALLY SELL FOR HALF
THE COST. UM INTO THE EAST COAST
. SO EVERY DAY WE ARE LOOKING AT
FREIGHT COSTS AND THE CONCERN
WITH, UM THE CARB ROLE IS THAT
FREE COSTS ARE GOING TO GO UP
SIGNIFICANTLY, NOT JUST FOR OUR
EXPORT PRODUCT GOING TO THE
PORTS HERE, BUT WE'RE ALSO GOING
TO NOW SEE IT GOING TO THE EAST
COAST, WHICH IS OKAY? VERY VERY
COMPETITIVE ALREADY IN THE
DOMESTIC MARKET FOR US, WE WERE
BIDDING AT $41 A CARTON TO THE
EAST COAST TO OUR MAJOR BUYERS,
RETAILERS THIS YEAR AND
ARGENTINA WAS BIDDING AT $22 A
CARTON. SO THAT IS REALLY WHAT
WE'RE FACING. THAT'S WHY WE LOOK
AT, UM FREIGHT COST BOTH
TRUCKING AND EXPORT COSTS
CONSTANTLY. WE LOST SIGNIFICANT
DOLLARS DURING COVID BECAUSE WE
HAD TO PAY FOR SO MUCH SO MANY
DAMAGES UPON ARRIVAL. UM SO IT'S
A HUGE FACTOR INTO OUR BIDDING
THAT WE DO, AND IT'S A HUGE
FACTOR INTO OUR COMPETITIVENESS.
I THINK WHEN CALIFORNIA CITRUSY
WAS THE ONLY GAME IN TOWN, AND
IT WAS THE PREMIUM PRODUCT. BUT
NOW, UM RETAILERS, FOREIGN
BUYERS AND CONSUMERS ARE GETTING
USED TO, UM, THAT COMPETITIVE
PRODUCT THAT CAN BE SOLD FOR A
LOT LESS SO IT'S VERY CRITICAL
TO US. HAS IT AFFECTED OTHER
CROPS? I WOULD, UM, VERY SIMILAR
TO WHAT RAIN IS DESCRIBING IN
TERMS OF THE DATA AND THE
ABILITY TO BE ON TIME. THOSE
COSTS THEN GET HANDED DOWN. IF
FOR SOME REASON, A CARRIER LINE
CLOSES ARE RECEIVING WINDOW FROM
FOUR DAYS TO TWO DAYS. WELL, I
HAVE TO GET AN EMPTY CONTAINER,
WHICH MEANS I HAVE TO SIT AND
WAIT AND GET ONE. GO BACK TO THE
VALLEY. GET IT LOADED UP. AND
NOW AS I COME BACK, I CAN'T GET
ON THE BOAT. I'VE MISSED MY
RIDE. WHICH MEANS I HAVE TO PAY
THE DETENTION INTO MARRIAGE ON
THAT OR MY, MY, MY PROCESSOR,
AND THEN IT TRICKLES DOWN.
ALREADY THE TRUCKERS ARE PAYING
ON AVERAGE OR A STUDENT FARMERS
ARE PAYING ON AVERAGE ABOUT $12
PER ACRE PREMIUM TO MOVE PRODUCT
TO THE PORTS. IF WHAT WE
ANTICIPATE IN TALKING WITH
TRUCKERS AND A NUMBER OF OTHERS
IS AN ADDITION AN ADDITIONAL
COST FOR THE FOR THE TIME TO GET
THERE. WITH THE TRANSITION TO
ZERO EMISSIONS VEHICLES. IF THAT
DOES ANYTHING TO DELAY THE TIME
OF TRANSPORTATION, THAT COSTS
WILL BE HANDED BACK DOWN TO THE
FARMER, UM, BROKEN DOWN IN THAT
CAPACITY, EITHER IN REVENUE NOT
BEING RECEIVED BACK TO THEM
BECAUSE THAT PRODUCT DOESN'T
RECEIVE REVENUE UNTIL REALLY
RECENTLY REACHES ITS DESTINATION
, SO IT CREATES THAT CASH WILL
CRISIS I DESCRIBED IF THE
PRODUCT CAN'T GET OUT, THE
FARMER DOESN'T GET PAID IN THE
CASH FLOW INTO THE ECONOMY AND
INTO THE COMMUNITY IS TOTALLY
CAPPED. OVER THE COURSE OF THE
PANDEMIC. TWO. NOW WE'RE STILL
NOT RECOVERED DURING THE
PANDEMIC BECAUSE OF HOW MUCH
PRODUCT WAS UNABLE TO BE SHIPPED
ALMOST OVER A THIRD. SO ON ON
AVERAGE AMERICAN ALMONDS GROW
ABOUT £2.6 BILLION WE FOR NOW,
THREE YEARS IN A ROW BECAUSE OF
HOW MUCH WE COULDN'T GET OUT
DURING THE PANDEMIC ARE STILL
SITTING WITH £900 MILLION 800
MILLION POUNDS ON AVERAGE PER
YEAR CARRIED OVER FROM ONE YEAR
TO THE NEXT. THAT IS WHEN IT'S
BASIC ECONOMICS SUPPLY IS GOING
UP. DEMAND IS STAYING THE SAME.
AND THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS THE
CASH FLOW IS TOTALLY DRYING UP
INTO THE COMMUNITIES. AND WHEN
YOU THEN CONSIDER, AS JAMIE
MENTIONED ZERO MISSION STANDARDS
ARE GOING TO TRANSLATE INTO OUR
FARMS. WITH OUR OFF ROAD
VEHICLES CRITICALLY NEED THE
INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE SUPPORT
NETWORK. IT IS A TOTAL
CONNECTION BETWEEN WHAT HAPPENS
IN THE VALLEY OUT TO REPORTS,
AND THE THIRD POINT I WOULD MAKE
IS AGAIN HOW I MENTIONED LINES
NOT RETURNING. ALMONDS ARE
TAKING TRAINS TO NORFOLK BECAUSE
IT'S CHEAPER THAN GOING OUT OF
THE WEST COAST PORTS. WHY
BECAUSE THE CARRIER HAS NOT
RETURNED THOSE LINES TO THE WEST
COAST IF OUR PORTS ARE NOT
ATTRACTIVE TO THE CARRIERS, AND
RESTORING OUR LINES INTO ARE
CRITICAL MARKETS LIKE INDIA AND
THE MIDDLE EAST, THEN WE HAVE TO
GO TO OTHER PORTS AROUND THE
COUNTRY, REGARDLESS OF THE COST,
BECAUSE WE'RE 80% OF THE WORLD'S
GAME TO GET BACK OUT TO THOSE
MARKETPLACES AGAIN, THOSE COSTS
CONTINUE TO GO UP. THAT MEANS
YOU GOTTA REMEMBER. FARMERS ARE
THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT BUY IT
RETAIL, SELL IT WHOLESALE AND
PAY THE FREIGHT BOTH WAYS, AND
THAT'S HAPPENING EVEN MORE AND
MORE UNDER THIS POST PANDEMIC
NETWORK. LET ME ADD ASKED, UM MS
TRANSIT TO ALSO ADD ANOTHER
LAYER TO THIS, WHICH IS THE
IMPORTANCE OF MARKET SHARE. SO I
STARTED MY CAREER INTERNATIONAL
TRADE POLICY WHEN I WORKED FOR
CONGRESSMAN BILL THOMAS. WE'RE
ALL ABOUT TALKING ABOUT GETTING
MORE AND MORE MARKET ACCESS. AND
I COULD YOU COULD YOU EDUCATE US
AND THE OTHER MEMBERS ABOUT THE
FACT THAT ONCE WE LOSE THAT
MARKETS INTERNATIONALLY AND
THEY'RE USED TO GETTING OTHER
PRODUCTS FROM OTHER COUNTRIES,
WE DON'T GET THAT BACK OR IF AT
ALL? RIGHT AND OFTEN TIMES, YOU
KNOW, UM, WE CAN'T GET THERE AND
INCENTIVIZES THEM TO DEVELOP
THEIR RESOURCES WITHIN THE
COUNTRY. UH RAIN BRINGS UP CHILI
, FOR EXAMPLE, I WAS JUST IN
MICHIGAN TALKING WITH THEIR
BLUEBERRY GROWERS IN THE SPIRIT
BECAUSE GROWERS WHO ARE BEING
UNDERCUT, JUST LIKE OUR GROWERS
ON YOU KNOW IMPORTS FROM SOUTH
AMERICA AND CHILE CERTAINLY WAS
WAS GIVEN THE TIME TO DEVELOP
THEIR WATER SYSTEM AND BRING
WATER FROM THE MOUNTAINS INTO
THEIR DESERT REGION. IF THAT
DOESN'T SOUND FAMILIAR, AND NOW
HAVE A PROSPEROUS AGRICULTURAL
SYSTEM. TÂM THERE. NOW WE STILL
SAY THAT WE YOU KNOW OURS HAVE
MORE FLAVOR THAN THEIRS. BUT
NONETHELESS, THERE'S DRAMATIC
IMPACT. TO THE GROWERS, AND IT'S
NO DIFFERENT IN CALIFORNIA. I'D
ALSO LIKE TO REMIND YOU THAT A
WELL FUNCTIONING PORTS FOR
AGRICULTURE MAY KNOW WESTERN
PORTS MEANS THAT WE GET OUR
MACHINERY ON TIME. WE GET OUR
FERTILIZERS ON TIME WE GET OUR
CARDBOARD ON TIME. WE GET OUR
PLASTIC CRATES ON TIME AND ALSO
OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, IRRIGATION
NEEDS AND ALSO ANY NEEDS FOR OUR
HOMES AND OUR BUSINESSES. WE
DEPEND ON THAT IMPORT TO KEEP
OUR BUSINESSES GOING, AND SO IF
IT'S NOT FUNCTIONING WELL, IT
BRINGS EVERYTHING TO A GRINDING
HALT. I BRING UP. FOR EXAMPLE,
TOMATO PROCESSORS IN CALIFORNIA
HAVE HAD A TOUGH TIME NOT JUST
FROM COVID BUT FOR DROUGHT. UH,
CALIFORNIA REPRESENTS 95% OF ALL
PROCESSING TOMATOES GROWN IN THE
UNITED STATES. OF CALIFORNIA
TOMATOES WE REPRESENT ABOUT 40%
OF THE WORLD MARKET. UM WE ARE
THE FIFTH LARGEST EXPORTER OF
TOMATO PASTE, AND WE'RE THE
THIRD LARGEST EXPORTING COUNTRY
OF CANNED TOMATOES, A
SIGNIFICANT INDUSTRY HERE IN
CALIFORNIA PRIMARILY CENTERED,
YOU KNOW, AND IN CENTRAL
CALIFORNIA, UH, DOING THAT, BUT
YOU CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AT. YOU
KNOW WHAT? WE TALKED ABOUT TRADE
WARS AND YOU LOOK AT THAT
BRINGING IN, YOU KNOW CANS FROM
CHINA GREATLY DISRUPTED BUT THEN
WE GO INTO THE COVID PERIOD AND
THOSE KIND OF SHIPPING SUPPLY
CHAIN ISSUES, BUT WE ALSO RUN
INTO A DROUGHT SITUATION THAT WE
HAVEN'T FULLY RECOVERED FROM.
LAST YEAR. THE AMOUNT OF
PROCESSING TOMATOES PLANTED IN
CALIFORNIA OR WHERE AS LOW AS IT
WAS IN THE 19 FIFTIES, SO
DROUGHT HAS A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT
ON WHAT WE CAN EXPORT AND CAN
ALSO LEAD SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO
YOU AS WE TALK ABOUT KEEPING
AGRICULTURAL HEALTHY, NOT JUST
FROM A SHIPPING POINT OF VIEW,
BUT ALSO THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND
THE INPUTS LIKE WATER THAT WE
NEED TO BE SUCCESSFUL. SO
CALIFORNIA AGAIN, YOU KNOW WE
COULD TALK ABOUT RICE GOING OUT
OF WEST SACRAMENTO AND THE
PORTER STOCKTON. IN THE
SIGNIFICANCE. 40% OF ALL RICE
BEING EXPORTED OUT OF THE UNITED
STATES IS CALIFORNIA RICE. THERE
WERE ABOUT A THIRD OF THE RICE
GROWERS ACREAGE IN THE UNITED
STATES WHEN IT COMES TO
EXPORTING AND MEETING THOSE
QUALITY NEEDS, WHICH IS
OFTENTIMES REVENANT AND
INCREASED REVENUE GENERATOR TO
PAY FOR OUR REGULATIONS.
CALIFORNIA FARMERS AND RANCHERS,
CERTAINLY, UH PUNCH ABOVE THEIR
WEIGHT. I JUST WANTED. I JUST
WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU AND
YOUR MEMBERS THINK THE FARMERS
AND THE FARM WORKERS AND THE
RANCHERS. YOU PERSEVERED THROUGH
A LOT. UM DROUGHT FLOOD AND NOW
ADDED COST WHEN IT COMES TO
REGULATIONS, AND SO I WANT TO
IMPLORE TO THE MEMBERS ON THIS
COMMITTEE THAT NOT ONLY ARE WE
TRYING TO KEEP THE PORTS
COMPARATIVE TO OTHER STATES, BUT
WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP OUR FARMERS
COMPETITIVE OVERSEAS SO THAT WE
CAN CONTINUE TO BE THE NUMBER
ONE ACT PRODUCING STATE IN THE
COUNTRY AND, OF COURSE TO
PRESERVE THE NUMBER ONE FOOD
PRODUCING REGION IN CALIFORNIA.
THANK YOU. OTHER QUESTIONS, MISS
PAPER. QUESTION WELL, THIS IS
CERTAINLY BEEN EYE OPENING
EXPERIENCE AND THANK YOU VERY
MUCH FOR TESTIMONIES BEFORE WE
MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT PANEL. I
JUST HAVE ONE BRIEF QUESTION. UM
AND WE TALKED ABOUT THAT HE WAS
MISS THOMPSON TALKED ABOUT
INVESTMENT. WHAT IS THAT
INVESTMENT LOOKS LIKE FROM YOUR
LENS THAT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING
AT, BECAUSE AGAIN WE HAVE AND WE
WILL TAKE FULL ADVANTAGE. OF MR
FONG'S POSITION AS THE VICE
CHAIR OF THE BUDGET COMMITTEE,
UM IN THE ASSEMBLY. WHAT DOES
THAT LOOK LIKE FROM YOUR LENS?
AND MY SECOND QUESTION IS, WILL
YOUR INDUSTRIES GET TOGETHER AND
SUBMIT TO US? UM WHAT IT LOOKS
LIKE MOVING FORWARD IN AN IDEAL
WORLD AND HOW WE SHOULD PLAY
COLLABORATIVE ROLE. UM YOUR
INDUSTRY WITH THE STATE TO TRY
TO TEAR DOWN SOME BARRIERS AND
SO YOU KNOW, I KNOW YOU DIDN'T
COME HERE LOOKING FOR HOMEWORK,
BUT CERTAINLY I WOULD LIKE FOR
YOU TO BE PART OF THIS
COLLABORATION. WE'VE ASKED THE
PREVIOUS PANEL DO THE SAME. WE'D
LIKE FOR YOU TO GET TOGETHER AND
COLLABORATE AND SUBMIT SOMETHING
TO US SO WE CAN LOOK AT AND ALSO
USE UTILIZED AS PART OF OUR OF
OUR WHITE PAPER. SO THANK YOU.
YEAH I THINK WHAT? I DIDN'T KNOW
IF YOU WERE THAT WAS A QUITE I'M
ASSUMING IT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF
A QUESTION. UM SO, UM, I THINK
WHAT DANNY BROUGHT UP THE STATE
FREIGHT PLAN IS REALLY IMPORTANT
FOR LAYING OUT VERY SPECIFICALLY
, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO CONTRIBUTE
TO THAT. PUTTING THAT TOGETHER
BOTH FROM THE LENS OF WHAT WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT AT THE NATIONAL
LEVEL. UM AS WELL AS WHAT WE
NEED HERE, BUT THAT PLAN SHOULD
REALLY LOOK AT ALL THE NODES AS
WELL AS WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN AT
AIRPORT INFRASTRUCTURE. WE HAVE
LIMITED REAL ESTATE. WE'RE IN
PRIME REAL ESTATE IS OAKLAND.
KNOWS EVERYONE. EVERYONE WANTS
TO BE THERE. UM SO I THINK WE
NEED TO LOOK AT THAT LIMITED
REAL ESTATE, BUT IT CAN REALLY
BE USED EFFICIENTLY. I THINK WE
CAN MEET ENVIRONMENTAL GOALS AND
ALSO MAKE OUR PORTS
INFRASTRUCTURE STATE OF THE ART.
IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF
MONEY AND REALLY HARD POLICY
DECISIONS. THAT MIGHT, UM YOU
KNOW, MAKE US UNCOMFORTABLE AT
FIRST, BUT I THINK IT'S
ACHIEVABLE. I THINK WE JUST HAVE
TO BE FOCUSED, AND WE HAVE TO
REALLY SAY THIS IS OUR GOAL. AND
THEN I THINK IT WILL REALLY
BENEFIT. SO MANY PEOPLE PROVIDE
MORE JOBS AND PROVIDE FOR
SOMEBODY MORE ENVIRONMENTAL
BENEFITS. SO WE'LL WORK ON THAT
STATE PLAN WITH THE PORTS. I
KNOW OTHERS ARE TALKING ABOUT IT
AS WELL. SO I THINK THAT THAT
WILL BE REALLY IMPORTANT IN
IDENTIFYING WHERE THE BEST
INVESTMENTS ARE. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. ANYONE ELSE WANT TO TRY
HIM IN BEFORE TRANSITION SIMILAR
TO WHAT RAINES TALKING ABOUT THE
INFRASTRUCTURE INSIDE OF A NEW
CORRIDOR WITHIN THE CENTRAL
VALLEY THAT THEN CAN CONNECT TO
THE COAST. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE
TO RETHINK BECAUSE OF THE GOALS
WERE TRYING TO REACH A MODEL OF
SHORTER TERM RUNS OF HEAVIER
LOADS AND CHANGING THE DIFFERENT
MODES OF TRANSPORTATION. SO YOU
HAVE TO INVEST ACROSS THE BOARD,
NOT ONLY IN THE BASICALLY LIKE
THE MODERN MASLOW'S HIERARCHY OF
NEEDS. WE HAVE TO HAVE THE BASIC
THINGS OF CONNECTIVITY FOR
TECHNOLOGY AND DATA. WE HAVE TO
HAVE GRID CAPACITY AND THE
ENERGY TO SUPPORT IT RELIABLY.
THAT GOES FOR HYDROGEN AS WELL
AS ELECTRIC. AND I THINK YOU'RE
LOOKING AT A NEW ORGANIZED
CENTRAL VALLEY STYLE CORRIDOR
THAT MAKES SHORTER RUNS TO THE
COAST, WHICH DOES HELP WITH OUR
EMISSIONS, WHICH HAS HELPED
WHERE ARE AT RISK COMMUNITIES
BOTH IN THE VALLEY AS WELL AS ON
THE COASTAL AND PORT AREAS. CAN
I JUST ASK? DOES THAT INCLUDE
INLAND PORTS AS WELL? YES,
ABSOLUTELY. PLEASE PLEASE, NOT
MUCH MORE TO ADD, BUT I WAS
GOING TO HAVE THE INLAND PORTS
AS WELL AND THE OTHER THING TO
LOOK AT, TOO, AND IT'S NOT JUST
HAPPENING IN AGRICULTURE FOR
MANY, MANY REASONS, BUT WE KNOW
IT'S HAPPENING IN OUR SHIPPING,
WHETHER THAT'S TRUCKING OR
WHETHER THAT'S JUST WHO ACTUALLY
CARRIES. OUR CONTAINERS ON THEIR
ON THEIR SHIPS, AND THAT'S THE
CONSOLIDATION THAT YOU SEE
HAPPENING IN SOME A REAL A REAL
EFFECT OF ANY RISING COSTS IS
SIMPLY YOU HAVE TO BECOME MORE
EFFICIENT AND OFTENTIMES TO DO
THAT, YOU HAVE TO BECOME BIGGER
AND THAT SHOULDN'T BE A LOST
POINT AND A GOOD STARTING POINT.
LOOKING ACROSS THE
TRANSPORTATION SPECTRUM, AS WELL
AS AGRICULTURE, WHAT IS LEADING
TO CONSOLIDATION? I'LL LEAVE YOU
WITH SOME GOOD NEWS, THOUGH.
AND, UM UH MET WITH A LARGE
CHEESE PROCESSOR IN CALIFORNIA,
WHO ALSO HAS A CHEESE PLANT IN
TEXAS AS WELL AND WAS SHOCKED TO
LEARN THAT FOR THEM, IT'S STILL
MORE EFFICIENT TO BRING THEIR
CHEESE FROM NORTHWEST TEXAS TO
LONG BEACH THAN IT IS TO GO DOWN
TO HOUSTON. HOWEVER THE
CHALLENGE WOULD BE THE LARGEST
AREA EXPORTER IN THE UNITED
STATES, IS AT A COLORADO WHO NOW
MOVES OUT OF HOUSTON, IF NOT
AIRFREIGHT, IF THEY NEED TO. BUT
WE STILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY. SO
THANK YOU FOR ADDRESSING IT AND
WHAT THERE'S STILL A GREAT
CHANCE TO RESTORE WHAT WE
UNDERSTAND OUR TRANSPORTATION
INFRASTRUCTURE IN CALIFORNIA BE
THE BEST IN THE UNITED STATES.
THANK THIS PANEL. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH FOR BEING PART OF THIS
ROBUST DISCUSSION AS WE
TRANSITION TO OUR NEXT PANEL. UM
UM THE NEXT PANEL WILL BE
DISCUSSING NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
GOODS MOVEMENT AND SUPPLY CHAINS
. PARTNERS PERSPECTIVE. SO AGAIN
. THANK YOU VERY MUCH IN THE
NEXT PENALTY COULD PLEASE JOIN
US. WE'LL BE STARTING OFF WITH
MR HUNTER. MR HUNTER IS THE
REGIONAL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THE REGIONAL REPRESENTATIVE FOR
INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATION OF
MASTER MATES AND PILOTS. SO
THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH. SORRY
I MEAN, YOUR YOUR SPEECH. OKAY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, BROTHER.
APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. AND IF
ANYONE NEEDS TO USE THE
RESTROOMS, IT'S OUT THE DOOR AND
TO THE RIGHT. DON'T DOWN A LONG
CORRIDOR. I DON'T THINK YOU NEED
A CODE, BUT.
SO GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
MR HUNTER. THE MICROPHONE IS
YOURS. WE WANT TO JUST REMIND
THE, UH THIS PANEL WE HAVE TWINS
, 6 TO 8 MINUTES. I HAVE A TIMER
THAT WOULD GO OFF AT EIGHT
MINUTES. UM THEN WE'LL GIVE
ANOTHER TWO MINUTES TO WRAP UP
AND CLOSE UP. IF, IN FACT YOU
NEED IT. UM SO THE FLOOR IS
YOURS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD
MORNING, UM, CHAIR GIBSON AND
MEMBERS OF THIS COMMITTEE. THANK
YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK
WITH YOU TODAY. MY NAME IS
CAPTAIN SLY HUNTER. I'M THE
REGIONAL REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE
INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATION OF
MASTERS MATES AND PILOTS
COMMONLY KNOWN AS M. M. M P. UM
OUR UNION, WHICH IS AN AFFILIATE
OF THE AFL. C I O WAS FOUNDED
OVER 140 YEARS AGO AFTER A
PADDLE SIDE PADDLE WHEELER. SO
WANAKA SUFFERED A BOILER
EXPLOSION IN NEW YORK HARBOR. WE
WERE FOUNDED AFTER THE CAPTAIN
SUCCESSFULLY MANEUVERED HIS SHIP
TO SHALLOW WATER IN ORDER FOR
THE SHIP'S PASSENGERS TO
EVACUATE SAFELY. I SHARE THAT
ANTIDOTE TO EMPHASIZE THAT
SAFETY AND PRESERVATION OF LIFE
IS WHY WE WERE FOUNDED. AND IT
CONTINUES TO BE THE MOST
IMPORTANT ASPECT OF WHAT MMP
DOES EVERY DAY. PRIOR TO MY
CAREER AS MMP REPRESENTATIVE, I
SERVED AS A FERRY CAPTAIN ON SAN
FRANCISCO BAY AND HAVE SPENT 30
YEARS AND THOUSANDS OF HOURS
OPERATING ON THESE WATERS. UM
AND NOW I WORK TO PROTECT THE
MEN AND WOMEN WHO WORK ON THEM.
IN FACT, I NEGOTIATE ALL WEST
COAST LABOR CONTRACTS FOR MMP
FROM SAN FRANCISCO, OAKLAND ALL
THE WAY DOWN TO L, A LONG BEACH
AND NOW MOVING INTO SAN DIEGO.
UM, FROM, UH AND THE VERY FIRST
ITEM WE NEGOTIATE WITH ANY NEW
CONTRACT IS MARINER SAFETY. UM,
WE CAN'T ALLOW. OUR MEMBERS TO
WORK ON AN UNSAFE BOAT OR
EQUIPMENT. AND WITH THE NEW
AMENDMENTS TO THE COMMERCIAL
HARBOR CRAFT RULE, IT'S GOING TO
BE DIFFICULT FOR UNION MEMBERS
TO WORK. FOR OUR WORKERS. THIS
IS NOT A JOB. MOST OF THE TIME.
IT'S A VOCATION. IT'S A CALLING
TO WANT TO WORK ON THE WATER.
AND SO, UM, WE OWE IT TO THE
WORKFORCE. TO MAKE SURE THAT
THEY CAN RETURN RETURN HOME
SAFELY TO THEIR FAMILIES EACH
NIGHT. UM ON A BOAT. THE ENGINES
ARE THE GAS PEDAL AND BREAKS AND
THE LOSS OF ENGINE POWER IS A
CATASTROPHIC RISKS TO VESSEL
SAFETY AND, MORE IMPORTANTLY, TO
MARINER SAFETY. THE NEW CHC RULE
DOES NOT DO ENOUGH TO ADDRESS
MARINER SAFETY AND COULD IN FACT
ENDANGER THE MEN AND WOMEN ON
THE VESSELS. THAT IS WHY WE'VE
PARTNERED WITH AMERICAN
WATERWAYS OPERATORS TO MAKE
IMPROVEMENTS TO THE RULE. WE
DON'T WANT TO STOP CAR FROM
DOING ANYTHING. ARE MARINERS
BREATHE THE SAME AIR AS EVERYONE
ELSE, AND WE WANT TO HAVE A
HEALTHY ENVIRONMENT AS MUCH AS
ANYONE ELSE. HOWEVER WE ALSO
WANT TO HAVE SAFE WORKING
CONDITIONS AND PUTTING
IMPROVING. UNTESTED TECHNOLOGY
ON A VESSEL. UM THAT'S
RESPONSIBLE FOR MOVING AND
ASSISTING. VERY LARGE CARGO
SHIPS CAN JEOPARDIZE THAT
SAFETY. ALL WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS
THE OPPORTUNITY TO ENSURE THAT
THESE TECHNOLOGIES ARE VETTED AS
SAFE. UM AND THAT, IN THE EVENT
OF FAILURE, THEY WILL NOT RENDER
SHIP DEAD IN THE WATER, POSING
UNNECESSARY THREATS TO MANNER.
MARINERS VESSELS, CARGO AND THE
ENVIRONMENT. AS YOU KNOW, THE
CHC PROVIDES STRICT TIMELINES
FOR THE INSTALLATION OF
EQUIPMENT ON THE VESSELS THAT
DOES NOT CURRENTLY EXIST. THE
SIX MONTH GRACE PERIOD OFFERED
BY THE RULE IS NOT ENOUGH TIME
FOR VESSEL CLASSIFICATION
SOCIETIES TO SIGN OFF ON THE
EQUIPMENT AND FOR ENGINE
MANUFACTURERS TO VERIFY THEIR
SAFETY FOR USE. UM THANK YOU FOR
YOUR TIME TODAY. I WISH I COULD
SAY THAT CARB HAS ADDRESSED
ADDRESSED OUR SAFETY CONCERNS.
ALL RIGHT. AND DURING AND AFTER
THEIR COMMENT PERIOD, BUT THEY
HAVE NOT. WHICH IS WHY WE'RE
FINDING YOUR FINDING EMPLOYERS,
UNION MEMBERS AND LOCK STEP
BEFORE YOU AND YOUR COLLEAGUES
IN SACRAMENTO. UM, WE'RE LOOKING
WE'RE LOOKING TO YOU FOR
LEADERSHIP. AND FOR STEPPING UP
FOR COMMON SENSE WORKPLACE
SAFETY AS A RESPONSE TO WHAT
CARB HAS PUT FORWARD, I LOOK
FORWARD TO ANSWERING ANY
QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. WE APPRECIATE
YOUR TESTIMONY. UM WE HAVE A
REPRESENTATIVE, THE AMERICAN
WATERWAYS OPERATORS, PLEASE SELF
INTRODUCE YOURSELF. THANK YOU,
CHAIR GIBSON AND MEMBERS OF THIS
COMMITTEE FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO
ADDRESS YOU TODAY. MY NAME IS
KYLE BURLESON. AND I'M, A
DIRECTOR OF STATE ADVOCACY FOR
THE AMERICAN WATERWAYS OPERATORS
, WHICH IS THE TUGBOAT TOWBOAT
AND BARGE INDUSTRIES ADVOCATE
RESOURCE IN UNITED VOICE FOR
SAFE, SUSTAINABLE AND EFFICIENT
TRANSPORTATION, AMERICA'S
WATERWAYS, OCEANS AND COASTS.
OUR INDUSTRY IS 5000 TOWING
VESSELS AND 33,000 BARGES
COMPRISE THE LARGEST SEGMENT OF
THE US FLAG DOMESTIC FLEET
SUPPORTING MORE THAN 270,000
JOBS NATIONWIDE AND MOVING MORE
THAN 665 MILLION TONS OF CARGO
CRITICAL TO THE U. S ECONOMY.
FURTHER A W O HAS EIGHT MEMBER
COMPANIES HEADQUARTERED HERE IN
CALIFORNIA IN ABOUT 20 THAT DO
BUSINESS HERE. CALIFORNIA AS YOU
KNOW, IS THIRD AMONG STATES AND
WATERBORNE COMMERCE AND IS HOME
TO OVER 51,000 MARITIME JOBS
THAT CONTRIBUTE $12.2 BILLION TO
THE ECONOMY HERE AND GENERATE
OVER $3.6 BILLION IN LABOR
INCOME. CALIFORNIA IS A LINCHPIN
TO MARITIME TRADE, NOT JUST ON
THE PACIFIC COAST, BUT THE
ENTIRE UNITED STATES. TALK ABOUT
TOWBOATS AND BARGES OR THE
GREENEST MOTIVE. FREIGHT
TRANSPORTATION WITH ONE BARGE
PRODUCING 43% LESS GREENHOUSE
GAS EMISSIONS AND RAIL AND MORE
THAN 800% LESS THAN TRUCKS PER
TON. HAVING SAID THAT OUR
MEMBERS ARE CONTINUALLY LOOKING
TO IMPROVE EFFICIENCY AND
ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY. A
W O MEMBERS BROUGHT THE FIRST
HYBRID TUGBOAT TO CALIFORNIA IN
2010. OPERATED THE FIRST FUEL
BARGES OF THE HYDRO CARBON
CAPTURE TECHNOLOGY AND WE BRING
AMERICA'S FIRST ZERO MISSION
SHIP ASSIST VESSEL ONLINE AT THE
PORT OF SAN DIEGO SOON, PERHAPS
AS EARLY AS THIS YEAR. ELSEWHERE
IN THE UNITED STATES AND MEMBER
JUST RECENTLY CHRISTENED THE
COUNTRY'S FIRST HYBRID ELECTRIC
INLAND TOWBOAT. I SAY THAT TO
SAY THAT OUR INDUSTRY IS NOT
AFRAID OF REGULATION OR
INNOVATION. WE PARTNER WITH THE
COAST GUARD ROUTINELY. WE WORK
WITH FEDERAL AND STATE
LEGISLATORS TO DEVELOP
COOPERATIVE METHODS TO ACHIEVE
SHARED GOALS. FOR THE SAVINGS OF
FOR THE SAKE OF EXPEDIENCY IN
THE TIME ALLOTTED ALSO WANT TO
FOCUS ON EARNING HER SAFETY.
CURRENT ITERATION OF THE
COMMERCIAL HARBOR CRAFT RULES
GOING TO CREATE A CATCH. 22
VESSELS CAN BE EITHER COAST
GUARD CERTIFIED OR CARB
CERTIFIED, BUT NOT BOTH. THAT'S
BECAUSE THE DIESEL PARTICULATE
FILTERS AND SELECTIVE CATALYTIC
REDUCTION DEVICES MANDATED UNDER
THE RULE DO NOT YET EXIST IN THE
SIZE OR SCALE REQUIRED FOR LARGE
MARINE ENGINES. WHAT THAT MEANS
IS THAT THERE WILL NOT BE TIME
FOR THESE DEVICES TO BE PROPERLY
VETTED BY ENGINE MANUFACTURERS
OR VESSEL CLASSIFICATION
SOCIETIES, WHICH ARE SUBJECT
MATTER, EXPERTS RELIED UPON BY
THE COAST GUARD TO ENSURE THE
VESSELS CAN OPERATE SAFELY.
INSTALLING THEM WITHOUT THIS CAN
RESULT IN AN ENGINE LOSING ITS
EPA TIER CERTIFICATION, WHICH
RENDERS IT USELESS UNDER BOTH
FEDERAL AND CALIFORNIA LAW. MORE
CONCERNING IS THE HISTORY OF DPS
HAVING SENSORS FAIL ON TRUCKS OR
WORDS? YES WORK WORSE YET
CATCHING FIRE. TRUCK. WHEN THAT
HAPPENS, THE DRIVER CAN SIMPLY
PULL OVER AND WALK AWAY. AND
OBVIOUSLY THAT'S NOT IDEAL. BUT
MARINERS DON'T HAVE THAT OPTION
IS CAPTAIN HUNTER ALLUDED AS
SHIP'S ENGINES FOR THE
PROPULSION, THE STEERAGE AND THE
BRAKES WITHOUT FUNCTIONING
ENGINES OF VESSEL IS DEAD IN THE
WATER, POSING THREATS TO MARINER
SAFETY, VESSEL SAFETY AND
ENVIRONMENTAL SAFETY. MARINATED
NEED TO HAVE SAFE AND VETTED
EQUIPMENT ON THEIR VESSELS IN
ORDER TO DO THEIR JOB SAFELY AND
GET HOME WHEN IT'S DONE. IN
FACT, THE UNITED STATES COAST
GUARD VOICE THESE ISSUES, AMONG
MANY TO CARVED DIRECTLY, WE'LL
CARVE RESPONDED TO THE COAST
GUARD'S LETTER THAT MADE NO
CHANGES TO THE RULE THAT QUELLED
ANY OF THE CONCERNS HELD BY THE
NATION'S FOREMOST AUTHORITY ON
MARITIME SAFETY. THAT'S WHY
WE'VE WORKED WITH
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S BAINES TO
INTRODUCE A B 1122. WHICH
DOESN'T TELL CAR BUT IT CAN DO
DOESN'T TELL A CAR, BUT IT CAN'T
DO. IT SIMPLY SAYS THAT IF
YOU'RE GOING TO MANDATE
EQUIPMENT ON A VESSEL HAS TO BE
VERIFIED BY A VESSEL CLASS
SOCIETY FOR SAFE USE BEFORE IT
CAN BE INSTALLED. MOREOVER IN
THE EVENT OF A D P F
REGENERATION OR FAILURE, AND
OVERRIDE OR BYPASS, CAN BE USED
TO GET THE VESSEL AND ITS CREW
HOME SAFELY BEFORE HAVING TO
DEAL WITH THE ROOT CAUSE OF THE
FAILURE. THE BILL REQUIRES ANY
OPERATOR USING A BYPASS OR
OVERRIDE SYSTEM TO REPORT TO THE
COAST GUARD INTO THE STATE AS
SOON AS POSSIBLE TO KEEP RECORDS
OF THESE EVENTS. LARGER AND
STRONGER STORMS AND ATMOSPHERIC
RIVERS ARE THE NEW NORMAL.
VESSELS AND CREWS THAT OPERATE
THEM WORK 24 7, INCLUDING
BUILDING THE FORTHCOMING
OFFSHORE WIND FARMS. SAFETY CAN
NEVER TAKE A BACKSEAT TO ANY
OTHER ISSUE AND PROTECTING HUMAN
LIVES AND THE ENVIRONMENT. THANK
YOU FOR YOUR TIME HAPPY TO
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE
TESTIMONY OF GIVEN HERE OR THE
MORE EXTENSIVE TESTIMONY OF
SUBMITTED, THANK YOU. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. NEXT. WE'LL HAVE
REPRESENTATIVE REPRESENTING THE
LETTUCE, THE LEGISLATIVE
DIRECTOR, UM DAN JACOBSON,
LEGISLATIVE DIRECTOR FROM
ENVIRONMENTAL, CALIFORNIA. UM
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND YOU
WILL. YOU CAN CERTAINLY PROCEED
WHEN READY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MR CHAIRMAN. MY NAME IS DAN.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR CHAIRMAN
. MY NAME IS DAN JACOBSON,
SENIOR ADVISER TO ENVIRONMENT.
CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENT.
CALIFORNIA IS AN ENVIRONMENTAL
GROUP WORKING ON CLEAN AIR,
CLEAN WATER AND PROTECTING OPEN
SPACES. THIS PAST YEAR. WE
WORKED REALLY CLOSELY WITH MANY
MEMBERS OF THIS COMMITTEE TO
HELP PASS A B 1373, WHICH WAS A
BILL BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S EDUARDO
GARCIA TO SET UP CENTRAL
PROCUREMENT, WHICH IS ONE OF THE
KEY PIECES THAT WE NEED IN ORDER
TO ESTABLISH OFFSHORE WIND, AND
I'M REALLY GLAD TO HEAR THE LAST
SPEAKER TALKING ABOUT OFFSHORE
WIND BECAUSE THE PORCH ARE GOING
TO PLAY AN INTEGRAL PART IN HOW
WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH
OFFSHORE WIND. UM, AS IT'S BEEN
SAID MANY TIMES BEFORE, IF WE'RE
GOING TO HIT OUR SB 100 TARGETS
OFFSHORE WIND IS GOING TO BE ONE
OF THE MAJOR PLAYERS THAT WE
HAVE TO DO IN ORDER TO DO THAT.
THE THREATS TO CLIMATE CHANGE
MEANS THAT PORTS NEED TO PLAY A
GREATER ROLE. OUR PORCH WILL
NEED TO DEVELOP THE CLEAN ENERGY
THEY'LL NEED TO FOCUS ON THE
RISING SEA LEVELS. THEY WILL BE
PART OF THE EDUCATIONAL CENTERS
THAT TRACK THE IMPACT THAT WE'RE
HAVING ON THE OCEANS, AND
THERE'LL BE A BIG PLAYER IN THE
SUSTAINABLE BLUE ECONOMY THAT'S
EMERGING IN THIS STATE AND
ACROSS THE COUNTRY. AND IF WE
LOOK AT WHAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE
TO BRING OFFSHORE, AND I WANT TO
BE VERY SPECIFIC WITH SOME OF
THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU ASKED
EARLIER, MR CHAIRMAN THE
CALIFORNIA ENERGY COMMISSION IS
THAT IN ORDER TO GET THE PORCH
READY FOR OFFSHORE WIND, WE'RE
GOING TO NEED A TOTAL OF ABOUT
$10 BILLION PLUS OR MINUS NOW,
SOME OF THAT MONEY IS GOING TO
COME FROM THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT, SOME FROM THE STATE
GOVERNMENT, SOME FROM THE
OFFSHORE WIND DEVELOPERS AND
MAYBE SOME FROM THE LOCALITIES
IN THIS UPCOMING YEAR WILL HAVE
AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE A LOOK AT
THE CLIMATE BOND THAT'S BEEN
SUGGESTED, AND THERE'S A NUMBER
OF YOU ARE ALREADY SUPPORTING
THIS CONCEPT. BUT PUTTING A
BILLION DOLLARS INTO THE CLIMATE
BOND IN ORDER TO HELP GET OUR
PORCH READY FOR THIS OFFSHORE
WIND DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING TO
HAPPEN WITHOUT THAT. THE PORCH
AREN'T ABLE TO PROCEED WITH THE
INFRASTRUCTURE THAT THEY NEED,
AND WE RUN INTO A BOTTLENECK IN
TERMS OF THE CLEAN ENERGY
DEVELOPMENT THAT WE HAVE IF THE
PORCH CAN PRODUCE AND BOTH TO
MANUFACTURE TO, UM PRODUCE THESE
LARGE TURBINES AND THEN TO DO
THE OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE
THAT'S REQUIRED OVER THE NEXT 15
YEARS. THEN CALIFORNIA CAN'T HIT
THE GOALS THAT WE'VE SET THE
NATIONAL GOALS THAT
INTERNATIONAL GOALS IN ORDER TO
REDUCE THE DIRECT IMPACTS OF
CLIMATE CHANGE BY ACCELERATING
ARE MOVED TO 100% CLEAN ENERGY.
NOW THE BENEFITS OF OFFSHORE
WIND OR EVEN MORE THAN JUST
CLEAN ENERGY. THERE'S TREMENDOUS
LABOR BENEFITS THAT WE GET FROM
OFFSHORE WIND. UM WE PARTNERED
WITH THE CALIFORNIA TRADES IN
ORDER TO PASS A B 525 THAT WHICH
WAS AUTHORED BY NOW CITY
ATTORNEY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S DAVID
CHIU. UM AND WE WORKED WITH THE
TRADES AND A NUMBER OF OTHER
UNIONS AROUND THE STATE TO GET
THE CALIFORNIA ENERGY COMMISSION
TO SET THE AGGRESSIVE GOALS OF
BETWEEN TWO AND FIVE. TWO AND
FIVE GIGAWATTS BY 2030 UP TO 25
GIGAWATTS BY 2045. THIS IF YOU
LOOK ACROSS THE COUNTRY WOULD
MAKE US THE LEADER IN OFFSHORE
WIND ANYWHERE, AND IT'S
IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT
CALIFORNIA'S OFFSHORE WIND WILL
BE DIFFERENT THAN THE OFFSHORE
WIND THAT WE HAVE ON THE EAST
COAST. THERE. THEY HAVE A DIRECT
STAKE INTO THE OCEAN GROUND OURS
BECAUSE OF THE DISTANCE THAT
WILL HAVE BETWEEN 25 AND 35.
MILES OFF THE COAST WILL BE
FLOATING THIS AGAIN WILL BE
PROVIDING AN OPPORTUNITY FOR
WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT. WE'VE
BEEN WORKING WITH COMMUNITY
COLLEGES WITH TRAINING CENTERS
IN ORDER TO HOW DO WE GET OUR
WORKFORCE UP TO SPEED ON THIS
AND THEN OBVIOUSLY AND I'LL SAY
THIS IN CLOSING IS THAT AS WE
ELECTRIFY AND MOVE TOWARD 100%
THAT HAS A DIRECT HEALTH IMPACT
ON THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN THE
PORCH. THE PORTS HAVE OFTEN BEEN
SEEN AND HAVE TROUBLE WITH CLEAN
AIR ISSUES. BUT MOVING TO THIS
CLEAN ENERGY SOURCE WILL HELP TO
NOT ONLY REDUCE THE GREENHOUSE
GAS EMISSIONS THAT WE HAVE, BUT
ALSO TO IMPROVE AIR QUALITY
AROUND THE PORCH COMMUNITY
INVOLVEMENT IN THIS ISSUE IS
CRITICAL. AND I WANT TO THANK
YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK HERE TODAY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. ALEX PODOLSKI. PLEASE
CORRECT. MY BUT YOUR LAST NAME
SENIOR DIRECTOR OF CALIFORNIA
BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE AND
PROCEED WHEN READY. THANK YOU.
CHAIR GIBSON AND THE OTHER
COMMITTEE MEMBERS WHO HAVE MADE
IT THIS FAR THROUGH THE THROUGH
THE PRESENTATION. UM SO ALEX
PODOLSKI, SENIOR DIRECTOR OF
BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT FOR AMOROUS
CO. I AM. UM I LIVE IN THE BAY
AREA, AND I'VE BEEN A CALIFORNIA
RESIDENT FOR MOST OF MY ADULT
LIFE WORKING ON RENEWABLE ENERGY
FOR OVER 15 YEARS NOW AND AM
ARESCO IS THE TYPE OF COMPANY
THAT SOLVES THE PROBLEMS THAT
WE'RE DISCUSSING TODAY. UM WE'RE
A CLEAN TECH INTEGRATOR. UM WE
HAVE WERE FOUNDED IN THE YEAR.
2000 SO 23 YEARS AGO. UM, AND
WE'RE PUBLICLY TRADED ON THE NEW
YORK STOCK EXCHANGE. WE'RE
MIDCAP COMPANY WE DO ABOUT 2
BILLION IN REVENUE ANNUALLY,
PLUS OR MINUS HAVE ABOUT 1500.
ACTUALLY IT SAYS 1300 EMPLOYEES.
UM MANY OF THOSE ARE DEGREED
PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS WERE
INTERNATIONAL COMPANY. UM. IN
THE U. S WE HAVE 60 PLUS
OFFICES, AND I THINK PROBABLY
OVER 10,000 CUSTOMERS NOW, UM
AND WE REALLY MAKE A HUGE DENT
IN THE CARBON EMISSIONS OF THE
CUSTOMERS THAT WE WORK WITH.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO THIS IS
THE PORTFOLIO OF, UM DIFFERENT
TYPES OF CUSTOMERS THAT WE WORK
WITH AIRPORTS AND PORTS AMONG
THEM, UM COLLEGES AND
UNIVERSITIES. FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
IS A IS A BIG CUSTOMER OF OURS,
AND I THINK THE REST IS FAIRLY
SELF EXPLANATORY. NEXT SLIDE,
PLEASE. SO THIS IS PRETTY
IMPORTANT. UM, RENEWABLE ENERGY
IS GREAT. AH! TO HELP CUSTOMERS
REACH THEIR SUSTAINABILITY
INITIATIVES, BUT IT DOESN'T MAKE
SENSE TO APPLY. THANK YOU. TO
APPLY, UM, RENEWABLE ENERGY
PROJECT TO A SITE THAT'S REALLY
INEFFICIENT. WHAT MAKES MORE
SENSE IS TO MAKE THAT SITE USE
ENERGY REALLY EFFICIENTLY AND
THEN FOR THE REMAINDER. UH YOU
KNOW, ATTACK IT WITH ON SITE OR
OFF SITE, RENEWABLE ENERGY. UM.
IN ADDITION TO DOING OUR CORE
BUSINESS OF PROVIDING THE
SOLUTIONS, WE ALSO DO ENERGY
ANALYTICS AND THEN AFTER THE
PROJECT IS COMPLETE, WE PROVIDE
OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE. ONE
THROAT TO CHOKE. IT'S GOOD TO
HAVE ONE INDIVIDUAL OR ONE
COMPANY TO, UM, UM, YOU KNOW,
PROVIDE THE AFTERCARE FROM THE
PROJECT. HOPEFULLY THIS GETS US
THERE. THERE WE GO. UM THIS JUST
SHOWS SORT OF CUMULATIVELY OVER
THE LAST FEW YEARS. HOW BIG AN
IMPACT WE HAVE HAD, UM, FOR OUR
CUSTOMERS, OFFSETTING ALMOST 100
MILLION METRIC TONS OF CO TWO.
THIS SLIDE SHOWS HOW EXPANSIVE
OUR FOOTPRINT IS, AND CALIFORNIA
EACH ONE OF THOSE PINS
REPRESENTS PROJECT THAT WE'VE
DONE. UM SOME OF THOSE ARE
PORTFOLIO PROJECTS. SO UM, I
THINK I'M ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT
KAISER PERMANENTE AND SUTTER
HEALTH. UM OBVIOUSLY VERY
EXTENSIVE FACILITY FOOTPRINTS IN
CALIFORNIA. AND WE'VE DONE MANY
PROJECTS FOR BOTH OF THOSE
FOLKS. SO IN TOTAL 1.3 GIGAWATTS
OF RENEWABLE ENERGY PROJECTS, UM
143 MEGAWATTS OF THOSE RPV AND,
YEAH, CUT HER. KAISER AND SUTTER
ARE MENTIONED EXPLICITLY THERE.
UM. SO THE NEXT FEW SLIDES ARE
JUST SOME OF OUR PROJECT
HIGHLIGHTS THAT ARE NOT PORTS
SPECIFIC, BUT SORT OF INDICATE
THAT THE SORTS OF PROJECTS THAT
WE DO AND EACH ONE OF THESE
PROJECTS COULD BE APPLIED TO
PORTS. SO FOR THE U. S COAST
GUARD IN PETALUMA, THIS IS A
REALLY INTERESTING PROJECT FOR
US BECAUSE IT IT'S A MICRO GRADE
CAPABLE PROJECT FOR THOSE THAT
ARE FAMILIAR WITH CALIFORNIA. UM
YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH PUBLIC
SAFETY POWER SHUTOFFS, WHICH
HAVE BECOME A PART OF OUR LIVES
RECENTLY AND FOR A LOT OF
FACILITIES THAT IS, UM NOT NOT
VIABLE, NOT TENABLE. SO THE
COAST GUARD HAD A USE CASE WHERE
THEY WANTED US TO SOLVE.
POTENTIAL SITUATION WHERE THEY
WERE WITHOUT POWER FOR 10 DAYS.
UM AND WE DID THAT WITH A
COMBINATION OF ON SITE SOLAR
POWER, BATTERY, ENERGY STORAGE
AND BACKUP DIESEL GENERATION.
AND BY THE WAY, I DIDN'T MENTION
AT THE BEGINNING THAT AMOROUS CO
FINANCES A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF
THE PROJECTS THAT WE BUILD, AND
THAT'S A CRITICAL PIECE OF THE
PUZZLE, AND MANY OF THESE
PROJECTS CAN BE FINANCED AT ZERO
COST TO THE OFF TAKER CUSTOMER.
AND AT A POSITIVE CASH FLOW OUT
OF THE GATE AND THROUGH THE
CONTRACT TERM. AH, HERE'S THE
PROJECT IN SAN JOAQUIN COUNTY.
IT'S ON A CLOSED LANDFILL. FIVE
MEGAWATTS OF PV, AND,
INTERESTINGLY, THE ENERGY IS
ACTUALLY SOLD TO THE COUNTY OF
SAN JOAQUIN, AND IT IS SOLD TO
THEM AT A RATE BELOW THE WHAT
THE UTILITY WOULD CHARGE. UM I
DID THROW IN BECAUSE WIND IS
SUCH A KEY PART OF THE
CONVERSATION BOTH IN CALIFORNIA.
AND TODAY AT THIS AT THIS
HEARING, WE DID WE'VE DONE TO
WIN PROJECTS, ONE IN GREECE AND
ONE IN IRELAND, AND IT'S
BECOMING A BIGGER PART OF OUR
SERVICE OFFERING, UM NATIONALLY
AS WELL. AH, THIS IS AN EXAMPLE
OF SUTTER HEALTH'S SENATE ROSA
REGIONAL HOSPITAL, AND WHAT IT'S
PROFILING IS, UM, THESE
BEAUTIFUL SOLAR CANOPIES THAT IN
ADDITION TO OFFSETTING THE
MAJORITY OF THE HOSPITALS USE
ANNUALLY PROVIDE SHADED PARKING.
IN A PLACE WHERE THAT'S REALLY
BENEFICIAL. UM, CERTAINLY IN THE
SUMMERTIME. UH THIS PROJECT JUST
SHOWS THE DIVERSITY OF THE SORT
OF PROJECTS THAT MORESCO FOCUSES
ON. THIS IS HIGHLY ENGINEERING
INTENSIVE. BUT IT'S A LANDFILL
GAS RECOVERY PROJECT AND THEN WE
AH, SELL THAT GAS TO AN OFF
TAKER. THIS IS, UH I THINK I'M
ROSCOE IS THE LARGEST DEVELOPER
OF, UM, RENEWABLE NATURAL GAS
PROJECTS IN CALIFORNIA. SO
PROBABLY 15 PLUS PROJECTS IN THE
STATE. TRYING TO GET TO THE NEXT
SLIDE. THERE WE GO, UM, SO HAPPY
TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU
MAY HAVE AND JUST ONE
INTERESTING COMMENTS, SO WE'RE
WORKING WITH TENANT AT THE PORTS
OF LOS ANGELES. THEY ARE BIG
INTERNATIONAL SHIPPER, AND
THEY'VE PUBLICLY UM STATED THAT
THEY'RE GOING TO MEET VERY
AGGRESSIVE RENEWABLE ENERGY
TARGETS. B ZERO CARBON. I
BELIEVE BY 2035 AND SO THEY'VE
ENGAGED WITH US TO PROVIDE THEM
A SOLUTION AT THE PORTS OF LOS
ANGELES AND THE LOCAL
ELECTRICITY PROVIDER IS THE, UM
GATING FACTOR ON THAT PROJECT,
MOVING FORWARD AND WITH ALL OF
THIS PUSH TO ELECTRIFY THE PORTS
IN CALIFORNIA. IT'S OFTEN TRUE
THAT THE ELECTRICITY THAT IS
NECESSARY TO DO TO PROVIDE FOR
THAT DOESN'T ACTUALLY EXIST, OR
IF IT DOES EXIST. IT CAN TAKE 5
TO 10 YEARS OF PLANNING TO GET
THAT ON SITE SO SOMETHING TO
CONSIDER IN OUR DISCUSSION.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
FOR YOUR TESTIMONY. NEXT UP
WOULD LIKE TO INVITE. APPARENTLY
YOU THE LEGISLATIVE DIRECTOR,
CALIFORNIA STATE BUILDINGS AND
BUILDINGS AND CONSTRUCTION TRADE
COUNCIL. UM, SO THANK YOU VERY
MUCH FOR BEING HERE AND PROCEED.
WHEN READY. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.
MR CHAIR, REMEMBERS BEVERLY YOU
ON BEHALF OF STATE BUILDING
CONSTRUCTION TRADES COUNCIL. WE
REPRESENT 500,000 HARDWORKING
MEN AND WOMEN OF THE
CONSTRUCTION TRADES, INCLUDING
OVER 65,000 ENROLLED IN OUR
STATE OF THE ART APPRENTICESHIP
PROGRAMS. THREE QUARTERS OF OUR
APPRENTICES ARE PEOPLE OF COLOR.
ONE IN FIVE ARE EMANCIPATED
YOUTH COME FROM FOSTER CARE OR
WERE FORMERLY INCARCERATED. WE
APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
SPEAK TODAY TO PROVIDE SOME
BACKGROUND ON HOW ARE BUILDING
TRADES OPERATE WITH THE PORTS
SPECIFICALLY ON THE RECENT
ALLIANCE FOR RENEWABLE CLEAN
HYDROGEN ENERGY SYSTEMS, ARCHES
FUNDING, AS WELL AS A BRIEF
UPDATE ON THE PORCH OF OAKLAND
AND SAN FRANCISCO, WORK THAT WE
DO WHERE THE TOUR WILL TAKE
PLACE TODAY. FOR ARCHES. WE ARE
EXCITED TO SHARE THAT. RECENTLY
THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY
ANNOUNCED THAT ARCHES HAS BEEN
AWARDED UP TO $1.2 BILLION UNDER
THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY'S
REGIONAL CLEAN HYDROGEN HUBS
PROGRAM TO PRODUCE IN KOREA
MARKET FOR RENEWABLE HYDROGEN
HYDROGEN PRESENTS A VERY BIG
OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL OF US TO
BUILD A HYDROGEN NETWORK, CREATE
DELIVERY SYSTEM AND MAXIMIZE THE
HYDROGEN ECONOMY. ARCHES IS A
STATEWIDE PUBLIC PRIVATE
PARTNERSHIP TO BRING CLEAN
ENERGY AND GREEN JOBS. THE STATE
OF CALIFORNIA HAS TRULY BEEN
EXEMPLARY COLLABORATION BETWEEN
OUR PARTNERS TO PUT FORWARD THE
BEST APPLICATION TO THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT, INCLUDING WITH JOB
IS THE UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA,
THE RENEWABLE 100 POLICY
INSTITUTE, VARIOUS PRIVATE
COMPANIES. AND THE WITH THE
STATE BUILDING TREATS AS WELL.
AS A FOUNDING MEMBER AND PART
OWNER OF THE CONSORTIUM. WE ARE
THANKFUL FOR THE LEADERSHIP OF
BIDEN HARRIS ADMINISTRATION
SECRETARY GRANHOLM GOVERNOR
NEWSOM GO BIZ AND MANY OTHERS,
UM, TO MAKE THIS POSSIBLE AND WE
ARE WORKING TOGETHER WITH OUR
PARTNERS TO PROVIDE THE NEXT
GENERATION OF ENERGY THAT WILL
BENEFIT CALIFORNIA'S
DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES CREATE
JOBS SUPPORT BUSINESSES. IN THIS
NEW INDUSTRY AND EXPAND CLEAN
ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE. ARCHES
WILL UTILIZE CLEAN ENERGY
TECHNOLOGY TO PRODUCE HYDROGEN
EXCLUSIVELY FROM RENEWABLE
ENERGY AND BIOMASS TO
SUBSTANTIALLY THE CARBONIZED
MULTIPLE SECTORS OF THE ECONOMY,
INCLUDING PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION,
HEAVY DUTY TRUCKING PORTS
OPERATIONS, AND THESE ARE THE
KEY EMISSION DRIVERS IN THE
STATE AND SOURCES OF AIR
POLLUTION ARE AMONG THE HARDEST
DUTY HARMONIZE. IN PARTICULAR
THE CALIFORNIA HYDROGEN HUBBLE
INTRODUCED CLEAN HYDROGEN, TOO
HEAVY DUTY TRANSPORT THROUGH
CARGO HANDLING EQUIPMENT AND
DREDGE TO SUPPORT THE EVENTUAL
CONVERSION OF MARITIME EQUIPMENT
AT PORTS AND PREPARE THE PORTS
FOR THE POTENTIAL EXPORT OF
HYDROGEN. CALIFORNIA'S HYDROGEN
HUB, AIMS TO REDUCE CARBON
EMISSIONS BY 2 MILLION METRIC
TONS PER YEAR, ROUGHLY EQUAL TO
THE ANNUAL EMISSIONS OF 445,000
GASOLINE POWERED CARS. THE
EXPANSION OF HYDROGEN FUELED
VEHICLES AND HEAVY DUTY
TRANSPORTATION, INCLUDING THE
USE OF HYDROGEN FUEL CELLS WILL
NOT ONLY DRIVE IMPROVEMENT IN
AIR QUALITY ALONG INTERSTATE
TRANSPORTATION CORRIDORS, BUT
WILL ALSO FISSILE BIT FACILITATE
GREATER CONNECTIVITY. EXPANSION
OF A CLEAN WEST COAST FREIGHT
NETWORK THAT LINKS OUR
NEIGHBORING PACIFIC NORTHWEST
HYDROGEN HUB. THE FUNDING IS
COMING FROM FEDERAL ACTS,
PROVISIONS THAT PROVIDE
INVESTMENTS IN CLEAN ENERGY AND
CALIFORNIA HAS SUBMITTED A
FUNDING APPLICATION APRIL AND AS
MENTIONED WITH RECENTLY AWARDED
FUNDING AND THIS IS WITH SIX
OTHER HUBS TO ESTABLISH A
NATIONAL HYDROGEN NETWORK. WITH
THE SUPPORT ARCHES WOULD CREATE
220,000 GREEN JOBS, 130,000
CONSTRUCTION AND 90,000
PERMANENT JOBS AND GENERATE MORE
THAN 2.52 0.95. EXCUSE ME
BILLION DOLLARS. ANNUALLY
ECONOMIC VALUE FROM 2030. IN
ADDITION TO ECONOMIC BENEFITS,
THERE'S ALSO HEALTH SAVINGS
BENEFITS AS WELL AS IT WILL HELP
, UH, PROVIDE LOCAL BENEFITS TO
COMMUNITIES TO PREVENT HARMFUL
AIR POLLUTION. ARCHES HAS
COMMITTED TO REQUIRING PROJECT
LABOR AGREEMENTS FOR ALL
PROJECTS CONNECTED TO THE HUB.
AND PROJECT LABOR AGREEMENTS ARE
THE BEDROCK OF WHAT THE STATE
BUILDING TRADES ARE SEEKING. FOR
THESE PROJECTS, APPEAL A
COMPREHENSIVE, PRE HIGHER
COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT
THAT SETS THE BASIC TERMS AND
CONDITIONS OF EMPLOYMENT FOR
ENTIRE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.
ESSENTIALLY THEY ARE EFFICIENCY
AGREEMENTS TO HELP PREVENT
DELAYS. APPEAL IS THE FASTEST
ROUTE TO A GOOD JOB, GOOD
BENEFITS AND STRONG MIDDLE CLASS
ÁP. ELLA IS, UM AT LEAST THE
MIDDLE CLASS LIVELIHOOD PROVIDES
A LIVING WAGE FOR CONSTRUCTION
WORKERS KNOWN AS THE PREVAILING
WAGE AND INCLUDES ALL THE
ASSOCIATED BENEFITS AS WELL FOR
PREVAILING WAGE AND WITH LOCAL
HIGHER PROVISIONS PAYING LOCAL
WORKERS HAS DEMONSTRATED A
POSITIVE RIPPLE EFFECT.
ENHANCING THE PROSPERITY AND
WELL BEING OF THE ENTIRE
COMMUNITY REDUCES VEHICLE MILES
TRAVELED AND IMPROVES THE
QUALITY OF LIVES. FOR EVERYONE
IN THE COMMUNITY. ARCHES
PRESENTS A LOT OF WORK FOR THE
TRADES WITH STRONG LABOR
STANDARDS, CHURNING OUR TRAINING
PROGRAMS, ATTRACTING AND
RETAINING WORKERS WITH GOOD
PAYING GREEN JOBS. MANY OF THE
APPRENTICE IS COMING IN TODAY
AND INTO THE FUTURE WILL BE ABLE
TO WORK ON THESE PROJECTS. AND
MORE IMPORTANTLY, IT'S A
CATALYST TO BRING LOCAL PEOPLE
IN FROM ALL WALKS OF LIFE. AND
PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY TO
PARTICIPATE IN GOING TO A
LIFELONG, DIGNIFIED CAREER IN
THE TRADES AND BE ABLE TO ACCESS
TRAINING THAT'S DEBT FREE AND IN
THEIR AREA. ON THE POOR OF
OAKLAND. I WOULD LIKE TO BRIEFLY
HIGHLIGHT THE WORK THAT'S TAKING
PLACE, PARTICULARLY AS IT
RELATES TO ARCHES. PORTS AS YOU
KNOW, ARE A KEY COG OF THE
ARCHES ECOSYSTEM FOR THE
TRANSITION OF THE GOOD MOVEMENT
INDUSTRY TO ZERO EMISSIONS. UM
THEIR TREMENDOUS BENEFITS TO
DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES
DIRECTLY DOWNWIND AND THE HUB
PROVIDES A GREEN HYDROGEN ZERO
EMISSIONS ROADMAP FOR PORTS AND
GOODS MOVEMENTS NATIONALLY.
PORTS DEPEND ON WIDE RANGE OF
VEHICLES AND MACHINERY TO MOVE
GOODS. CARGO HANDLING EQUIPMENT
IS CENTRAL TO THESE POOR
OPERATIONS AND THE POOR OAKLAND
PROJECT POTENTIALLY WILL CONVERT
EXISTING DIESEL FUEL CARGO
HANDLING EQUIPMENT WITH ZERO
EMISSION HYDROGEN FUEL CELL
TECHNOLOGY. CONSTRUCTION WILL
ALSO POTENTIALLY TAKE PLACE AND
THESE TERMINAL HYDROGEN FUELING
STATIONS TO SUPPORT THIS ZERO
EMISSIONS EQUIPMENT. OUR LOCAL
ALAMEDA BUILDING TRADES HAS BEEN
WORKING TOGETHER WITH THE PORTS
COMMISSIONS TO MAKE THIS A
REALITY, AND WE SHOULD REMEMBER
THAT THE SAFETY AND VALUE UM. BY
ALWAYS REQUIRING A HUMAN SAFETY
OPERATOR WITH THIS EQUIPMENT IS
VERY IMPORTANT. AND NEGOTIATIONS
ARE STILL ONGOING AROUND THE
DETAILS, SPECIFIC PROJECTS, BUT,
UM, WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO PLEASE
ANNOUNCE THAT, UH THERE'S A LOT
OF WORK THAT IS, UH, IS GOING TO
POTENTIALLY RESULT FROM ALL
THESE CONVERSATIONS. I IN TERMS
OF POTENTIAL CONSIDERATIONS FOR
ARCHES, IT IS IMPORTANT TO
ENSURE THAT CALIFORNIA REGIONS,
COMMUNITIES ARE ENGAGED AND HAVE
ACCESS TO THE BENEFITS OF A
CLEAN HYDROGEN ECONOMY. THIS
HYDROGEN HUB PLANS TO
INCORPORATE ROBUST GOVERNANCE
MECHANISMS, INCLUDING LABOR,
TRIBAL AND ENVIRONMENTAL
REPRESENT REPRESENTATION ON THE
GOVERNING BOARD. STRONG STATE
REQUIREMENTS FOR ENVIRONMENTAL
JUSTICE AND COMMUNITY BENEFITS
PLANS. MONITORING ON THE POOR
SAN FRANCISCO OR SAN FRANCISCO
BUILDING TRADES WORKS VERY
CLOSELY WITH THE POOR AND LOCAL
OFFICIALS WITH CONTINUED HIGH
GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS,
ACCORDING TO THE L A. O SAN
FRANCISCO CÁC AS MUCH AS 7 FT OF
SEA LEVEL RISE BY 2100. SO IT'S
CRITICAL THAT WE REINFORCE THE
AGING SEAWALL INFRASTRUCTURE. UM
. THERE'S ALSO DEVELOPMENTS
HAPPENING IN SEVERAL PEERS OF
SAN FRANCISCO PIER 70 IS THE
LARGEST INTERFACES WITH BOTH
PUBLIC AND PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT.
THERE ARE A LOT OF ONGOING
PROJECTS TO BUILD OUT A NEW
FERRY TERMINAL. THERE ARE ALSO
ONGOING DISCUSSIONS AS MENTIONED
, UH TO OFFSHORE WIND BY MY
COLLEAGUE DAN JACOBSON TO SET UP
OFFSHORE WIND PROJECTS AND
LOOKING TO SEE IF THERE ARE
OPPORTUNITIES TO MANUFACTURE
POTENTIALLY AT THE PORTS. BUILD
OUT THE WIND TECHNOLOGY AND
DELIVERED TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH
FROM THESE WATERWAYS, AND THIS
YEAR WE ALSO WORK SUCCESSFULLY
WITH THE CITY AND COUNTY OF SAN
FRANCISCO AND THE PORTS TO PASS.
SB 273 AUTHORED BY SENATOR
WIENER, WHICH WOULD AUTHORIZE A
MIXED USE PROJECT LOCATED ON
PIERS 3032, AND AS PART OF THE
OVERALL 1.2 BILLION PROJECT. THE
DEVELOPMENT WILL MAKE $400
MILLION IN INFRASTRUCTURE
INVESTMENTS AND THE RESILIENCY
APPEARANCE. SEAWALL UPGRADES,
PUBLIC ASK SAYS AND THIS WILL
ALL BE ACHIEVED USING UNION
LABOR REALLY APPRECIATE THE TIME
TO SPEAK TODAY AND HAPPY TO
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH FOR
YOUR OF THE ENTIRE PANEL FOR
YOUR TESTIMONIES AND YOUR
PERSPECTIVE GIVEN TO THIS BODY.
WE WANT TO ASK A FEW QUESTIONS
FROM THE COMMITTEE. I'LL START
OFF AND THEN INVITE MY
COLLEAGUES TO DO LIKEWISE. UM SO
OUR GOAL IS TO TRY TO GATHER ALL
THIS INFORMATION SO THAT WE CAN
MAKE SOME REAL POSITIVE
DECISIONS DOING NOTHING IS NOT
AN OPTION. LET ME SAY THAT AGAIN
. DOING NOTHING IS NOT AN OPTION
, RIGHT? AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE
SURE THAT WE ARE MOVING
COLLECTIVELY AND COLLABORATIVELY
TOGETHER TO TRY TO ADDRESS
ISSUES AND PROBLEMS AND CONCERNS
, UM AND THEN PROVIDE ANSWERS TO
THOSE PROBLEMS AND CONCERNS SO
WE CAN HELP MAKING SURE THAT OUR
PORTS AND CALIFORNIA CONTINUE TO
BE THE MOST VIBRANT PORTS. UM IN
THE COUNTRY, SO MY QUESTION IS.
HOW CAN THE LEGISLATURE THE
PORTS AND THE STAKEHOLDERS MAKE
POLICIES THAT CAN BENEFIT ALL
HARDWORKING CALIFORNIANS THAT
OPERATE OUR PORTS EVERY DAY. SO
THAT'S THE FIRST QUESTION. THEN
THE SECOND QUESTION, UM, THAT I
WOULD LIKE TO ASK IS, UM, DO ANY
OF THE PANEL THINKS, UM, THERE
ARE SOLUTIONS THAT THE
LEGISLATURE COULD TAKE TO HELP
BOLSTER YOUR PERSPECTIVE
INDUSTRY. ARE THERE ANY AREAS
THAT THE LEGISLATURE HAS FALLEN
SHORT? UH OF AND HELPING SOLVE
SOME OF THE PROBLEMS AND
BARRIERS THAT FACE THIS
INDUSTRY. SO WHOEVER WANT TO
TAKE ONE OR BOTH QUESTIONS THE
FLOOR IS YOURS. ANTHONY ME TO
CLARIFY THAT THEN I'LL BE
CERTAIN TO BE HAPPY TO UH HUH.
MR CHAIRMAN, I'D I'D BE HAPPY TO
START WITH A B 1122, WHICH I
JUST MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, UM
CARVE IS NOT A WORKPLACE SAFETY
ORGANIZATION. UH, THEY DO AIR
EMISSIONS AS, UH, AS THE
REPRESENTATIVE SUPPORT COMMUNITY
ALLUDED TO, UH, WE SHARE THE
SAME GOALS THAT CARB HAS
ALTHOUGH THE DEADLINES AND
REQUIREMENTS THEY'VE PUT IN
PLACE ARE DIFFICULT, IF NOT
IMPOSSIBLE. UM AND HIS MISSUS,
ORTMANN SAID. UH. I DON'T THINK
ANYBODY BELIEVES THAT THEY TAKE
A GOOD HARD LOOK AT EVERYTHING
THAT WORKS AT THE PORTS,
INCLUDING THE TUGBOAT AND
TOWBOAT INDUSTRY. SO WE THINK
THAT, UH WITH OFFSHORE WIND
COMING ONLINE. THAT IS OUR OUR
INDUSTRY'S BIGGEST NEW JOB
OPPORTUNITY IN A GENERATION.
WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO RECRUIT MORE
WORKERS TO DO THIS SORT OF
THING. AND AS CAPTAIN HUNTER
COULD ATTEST TO, UH ALL OF MY
MEMBER COMPANIES NEED WORKERS.
UM SO ANYTHING THE LEGISLATURE
CAN DO TO PROMOTE THAT. UH WOULD
BE CRITICAL BUT ALSO A B 1122
WILL ENSURE THAT THOSE OFFSHORE
WIND JOBS AND THE SHIP ASSIST
JOBS. AH THAT EXISTS NOW, UH,
CAN ALL BE DONE SAFELY. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. DAN. THANK YOU,
MR CHAIRMAN. I'D SAY THE
SIMPLEST ANSWER. YOUR QUESTION
IS, LET'S GET OUR CLIMATE BOND
ON FOR 2024, AND LET'S PUT A
BILLION DOLLARS IN THERE FOR THE
POOR DEVELOPMENT THAT NEEDS TO
HAPPEN WITH OFFSHORE WIND. THE
STATE'S GONNA NEED ABOUT 11
PORTS. SOME OF THEM ARE GONNA BE
MANUFACTURING. SOME OF THEM ARE
GOING TO BE CITING AND SOME OF
THEM ARE GOING TO BE OPERATION
AND MAINTENANCE. REPORTS THAT WE
HAVE NOW ARE ALL GOING TO NEED
TO BE UPGRADED TO BE ABLE TO DO
THAT. THAT'S ONE THING THAT YOU
CAN DO THAT HAS A BENEFIT. I
THINK FOR EVERYBODY HERE AT THIS
TABLE AND FOR THE PEOPLE THAT
CAME AT THE PREVIOUS TABLES,
TOO. SO THAT'S A DIRECT ANSWER
TO THAT QUESTION. LET ME IF I
MAY. UM AND I KNOW THAT YOU YOU
RAISED THE $10 BILLION AND THE
STATE HAS TO PUT SOME SKIN IN
THE GAME. UM ARE YOU GUYS ALSO
LOOKING AT THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT IN TERMS OF
PARTNERSHIP BECAUSE AGAIN, WE
CAN'T DO IT ALONE. $10 MILLION
IS A IS A HUGE DOLLAR AMOUNT.
AND SO WE CERTAINLY NEED THAT.
BUT WHAT HAS BEEN THE WORKINGS
IN TERMS OF CONVERSATION WITH
THE FEDERAL OR FEDERAL PARTNERS
IN THIS REGARD? YEAH I'M HAPPY
TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. IT'S A
REALLY GOOD ONE. I WAS JUST IN
WASHINGTON, D C THREE WEEKS AGO
WITH THE PORTAL HUMBOLDT AND
THEIR COMMISSIONERS APPLYING FOR
A $426 MILLION GRANT FROM THE
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION
THAT THEY'D BE ABLE TO USE FOR
THE PORTAL HUMBOLDT TO
IMMEDIATELY GET STARTED ON THAT.
I THINK BASICALLY THREE THINGS
HAVE TO HAPPEN. ONE IS THAT AND
THIS IS ALREADY DONE UNDER THE
LEADERSHIP OF KAPPA AND THE
GREAT WORK THAT'S DONE BY THEIR
STAFF. BUT MAKE SURE THAT THE
PORCH ARE ORGANIZED AND THAT
WE'RE SPEAKING WITH ONE VOICE
HERE IN CALIFORNIA. THE ONE
CRITIQUE I WOULD HAVE IS IT'S
DIFFICULT FOR HUMBLE TO GO UP
AND SAY WE NEED $426 MILLION AND
THEN TWO WEEKS LATER FOR THE
PORT OF LONG BEACH TO GO UP AND
SAY, WELL, WE NEED $624 MILLION.
THAT'S GOT TO BE MORE UNIFIED.
IT NOT ONLY HAS TO BE UNIFIED
HERE IN CALIFORNIA, IT HAS TO BE
UNIFIED AMONGST THE WHOLE WEST
COAST. BECAUSE WHILE CALIFORNIA
WILL PLAY THE LION'S SHARE AN
OFFSHORE WIND, WE'RE GOING TO
HAVE TO WORK WITH OREGON AND
WITH WASHINGTON ON SUPPLY CHAIN
ISSUES ON TRANSMISSION ISSUES ON
ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTIONS, BUT
ALSO ON PORTS DEVELOPMENT. WHO
DOES WHAT AND WHERE, AND SO
THAT'S GOING TO BE CRITICAL. AND
THEN I THINK THE THIRD THING IS
JUST HAVING THE LEGISLATURE IN
THE STATE SHOW THAT THEY'RE
PUTTING SKIN INTO THE GAME
HAVING THE DEVELOPERS PUT THEIR
SKIN INTO THE GAME, AND WHEN THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THE STATE
GOVERNMENT SEE WE'RE ALL
COOPERATING THAT $10 BILLION. I
KNOW THIS SOUNDS RIDICULOUS TO
SAY CAN LOOK SMALLER IF EVERYONE
TAKES A CHUNK OF IT. THAT MAKES
A YOU RAISE A GOOD POINT,
BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE A FEDERAL
LOBBYISTS REPRESENT US IN
WASHINGTON, D C. THINK THERE
THERE'S NEEDS TO BE AT LEAST A
MIND NOTES THAT WE REFLECT THAT
WE NEED TO HAVE A COORDINATION
TO FIGURE HOW DO WE COORDINATE
AND COLLABORATE TOGETHER TO MAKE
SURE WE'RE SPEAKING WITH ONE
VOICE. UM BEFORE I GO TO MS
BONTA ANYONE ELSE WANTS SURE. UM
. THE PAIN OF WORKING ON IS
ENTIRELY PERMIT. THANK YOU FOR
THE QUESTION. THE SPECIFIC PAIN
THAT WE'RE FEELING IS PERMIT
RELATED. THAT'S AT THE LOCAL
LEVEL AND WITH THE UTILITIES, SO
THE PROJECT THAT I ALLUDED TO AT
THE COURT OF LOS ANGELES UM THE
CLIENT WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD
WITH THE PROJECT. IT'S A SOLAR
PV PROJECTS SO 100% GREEN ZERO
MISSION PROJECT. UM IT WOULD
OFFSET A SUBSTANTIAL PART OF
THEIR ANNUAL ENERGY USAGE, BUT
WE CAN'T GET THE PROJECT
PERMITTED IN A REASONABLE TIME
FRAME, AND IT'S NOT UNIQUE TO
THAT SITE. I TALKED TO
UNIVERSITIES I TALKED TO. AH BUT
WE CALL CNN CLIENTS, COMMERCIAL
ENTITIES. THEY'VE ALL COMMITTED
TO DOING TO GETTING TO NET ZERO.
THEY ALL HAVE AGGRESSIVE
TIMELINES. AND THE PERMITTING IS
THE ISSUE AND THEN THE OTHER
THAT REAL ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM
IS THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO
TRANSITION TO, UM CARBON FREE.
STATE. AH YOU KNOW YOU'RE GOING
TO HAVE TO BEEF UP THE ELECTRIC
INFRASTRUCTURE DRAMATICALLY AND
I'VE SEEN DOLLAR AMOUNTS THROWN
AT THAT. IDEA THAT ARE, YOU KNOW
, SCARY, SO I'M NOT GONNA
SPECIFY WHAT THOSE ARE. BUT UM,
YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY, THE GRID
THAT WE HAVE WAS DESIGNED FOR A
COMPLETELY DIFFERENT MM. USE
CASE AND A LOT OF RESOURCES AND
BRAIN POWER IS GOING TO HAVE TO
GO INTO MAKING THAT APPROPRIATE
FOR WHERE WE NEED TO BE. THANK
YOU, MR BART Ó. IT'S OKAY.
THANK YOU, MR CHAIR MEMBERS. UM
FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, WE
GENERALLY WANT TO SEE A LOT MORE
INVESTMENTS GOING TO THE
INFRASTRUCTURE AT THESE PORTS.
JUST RECENTLY, THERE WERE
EARTHQUAKES HERE IN SAN
FRANCISCO. UM THE U. S
GEOLOGICAL SURVEY ESTIMATES THAT
THERE IS A 72% CHANCE OF A MAJOR
EARTHQUAKE BETWEEN NOW AND 2043,
WITH THE POTENTIAL TO SHAKE SAN
FRANCISCO HERE, EVEN AT LEVELS.
NOT SEEN FOR OVER 110 YEARS, SO
I MEAN, THIS IS JUST SAN
FRANCISCO HERE. I'M SURE THERE
ARE OTHER SETS OF DATA FOR
AROUND THE STATE. WE WANT TO
MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW FOLKS
ARE PREPARED AND THE PORTS ALSO
Tð. IF NEEDED, CAN SERVE AS
PUBLIC SAFETY INFRASTRUCTURE FOR
THE BUILDING TRADES. MANY OF OUR
FOLKS WERE JUST ON SITE EVEN
DURING THE 1989 LOMA PRIETA
EARTHQUAKE AS A SECOND
RESPONDERS TO HELP OUT, UM NOT
LAW ENFORCEMENT, OR, YOU KNOW,
MEDICS, BUT YOU KNOW WE'RE THERE
AND WE'RE HOPING, GET EVERYTHING
BACK UP AND RUNNING TO OUR
MEMBERS, SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE
THAT THE INVESTMENTS ARE THEIR
INFRASTRUCTURES AND CRUMBLY AND
WILLING TO ENABLE TO WITHSTAND
WHAT'S COMING AT US IN
CALIFORNIA. THANK YOU. I WANT TO
TURN UP TO MISS BANTER, AND
THERE'S A SIMILAR WOMAN, PAPPAS.
BUT I ALSO WANT THE CAPTAIN
AFTER THEY FINISHED. I WANT TO
TALK ABOUT SAFETY. YOU RAISE
THAT ISSUE AND WISH WE HAVE TO
WIN. WE'RE NOT. WE SHOULDN'T
GLAZE OVER IT. BECAUSE I WANT TO
MAKE SURE THAT MOST OF ALL THAT
OUR PERSONNEL IS TAKEN CARE OF,
AND WORK IN A SAFE SPACE. SO
MISS BONTA AND THEN MS PAPPAS
THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US
TODAY AND PRESENTING ON THIS
PANEL. UH I WANTED TO IF YOU
WILL RETURN OUR ATTENTION BACK
TO WHERE WE STARTED IN THE FIRST
PANEL, WHICH IS THE SUGGESTION
THAT MR JUAN RAISED AROUND
REALLY DEVELOPING A STATEWIDE
FREIGHT AND I'M GOING TO SAY
STATEWIDE FREIGHT AND GOODS
MOVEMENT. POLICY TO REALLY
ANCHOR A LOT OF OUR WORK
THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THESE
THREE PANELS. WE'VE HEARD THE
NECESSARY IS THAT THE NECESSITY
TO HAVE INVESTMENT IN IMPORT
INFRASTRUCTURE CONSISTENCY IN
TERMS OF THE INVESTMENT YEAR
OVER YEAR IN TERMS OF WHAT THAT
MEANS FROM FROM THE DOLLAR
PERSPECTIVE, DOLLAR MEMBERS SPEC
TIVE THE INTRODUCTION OF THIS
IDEA OF A BOND TO BE ABLE TO
SUPPORT THAT WORK INITIALLY. UM
NEEDING TO BE ABLE TO INVEST IN
THE INLAND INFRASTRUCTURE TO
ENSURE THAT WE HAVE THE KIND OF
AGRICULTURE TO URBAN MOVEMENT
THAT WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO
SUPPORT AND WITH THIS PANEL,
WE'VE HEARD THE IMPORTANCE OF
NOT ONLY WORKPLACE SAFETY, BUT
ALSO THE IMPORTANCE OF WORKFORCE
DEVELOPMENT. AND FOR ME THAT
SOUNDS LIKE THERE IS A LOT OF
THERE ARE A LOT OF
INTERDEPENDENCIES BETWEEN UM,
THE VARIOUS INDUSTRIES, MARKETS
AND PERSPECTIVES THAT NEED TO BE
WOVEN TOGETHER VERY CAREFULLY
UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF ENSURING
THAT WE ARE ALL MEETING THE
CARB. GOALS SO THAT WE HAVE A
PURELY GREEN ECONOMY, UM,
INVOLVED IN OUR IMPORTS AND
GOODS MOVEMENT, SO I JUST WANTED
TO GIVE THIS PANEL AND
OPPORTUNITY TO LEND YOUR VOICE
TO THIS IDEA IF WE REALLY TO
MOVE FORWARD IN THE VERY NEAR
TERM WITH THE STATEWIDE, UH
GOODS AND GOODS, MOVEMENT AND
FREE POLICY. WHAT ASPECTS OF
THAT POLICY AND THE
INTERDEPENDENCIES? IF YOU WILL
DO WE ABSOLUTELY NEED TO MAKE
SURE ARE INCLUDED IN THAT. SURE
ABSOLUTELY. YOU TOUCHED UPON
WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT. UM IT'S
VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE TAKE INTO
ACCOUNT AND HAVE DISCUSSIONS.
MAKE SURE THAT LABOR IS AT THE
TABLE, ENSURING THAT THE STATE
BUILDING TRADES OR LOCAL BRAIN
TRADES OUR AFFILIATES, THE ONES
WHO ARE, YOU KNOW, DOING THE
CONSTRUCTION ALONG WITH OUR
BROTHERS AND SISTERS AND LABOR
WITH OUR IMPACTED, UM ARE A PART
OF THIS CONVERSATION AND REALLY
THINKING THROUGH. HOW DO WE BAKE
THESE LABOR STANDARDS IN AT THE
VERY BEGINNING? ONE FUNDING GOES
OUT. UM AS WELL AS WHEN WE THINK
THROUGH DIFFERENT POLICIES TO
IMPROVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF
THE PORTS. THANK YOU FOR THE
QUESTION. I'LL JUST SAY THAT, UM
THE END INTERDEPENDENCIES ARE
REAL AND COMPLEX AND I WOULD
LOOK AT IT THROUGH THE LENS OF
FIRST, UM ARE THE SOLUTIONS
TECHNICALLY VIABLE? IN THE NEAR
FUTURE. AND THEN SOME SOLUTIONS
THAT ARE TECHNICALLY VIABLE ARE
WILDLY EXPENSIVE, NOT
COMMERCIALLY SORT OF REASONABLE.
UM AND THEN YOU KNOW WHAT IS THE
TIMELINE FOR? IMPLEMENTING THIS
AND GETTING BACK TO THE CAR
ISSUE, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE
THAT THE TIMELINES DOVETAIL WITH
THE TECHNICAL AND ECONOMIC
TIMELINES. THANKS THINK MAYBE I
WOULD JUST ADD PUBLIC HEALTH. UM
THAT'S GOING TO BE SO IMPORTANT.
SO MANY OF OUR COMMUNITIES HAVE
BEEN ACTING HAVE BEEN IMPACTED,
UH, BY THE DIESEL ADMISSIONS BY
THE OTHER EMISSIONS. WHATEVER WE
LOOK AT GOING FORWARD, WE HAVE
TO LOOK AT HOW FAST CAN WE
IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF PEOPLE'S
HEALTH AND HOW CAN WE DO IT
WHILE ALSO DECREASING THE
IMPACTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE
FROM CLIMATE CHANGE. THOSE ARE
REALLY, REALLY DIFFICULT THINGS
TO BE ABLE TO WRESTLE WITH, BUT
PUBLIC HEALTH HAS GOT TO BE
FIRST AND FOREMOST IN PEOPLE'S
MINDS. ONE THING I'LL ADD
BECAUSE I HAVEN'T ASKED YOU GUYS
FOR MONEY YET. IS, UH THE.
CONSERVATIVE PRE INFLATION
ESTIMATE OUR INDUSTRY CAME UP
WITH THE COMPLY WITH THE NEW
HARBOR CRAFT RULES WAS $1.3
BILLION, SINCE MOST ASSUREDLY A
LOT MORE THAN THAT. YOU'RE
TALKING ABOUT $4 MILLION FOR A
TIER FOUR ENGINE. TYPICAL
TUGBOAT HAS FOUR OF THOSE TWO
FOR PROPULSION TO FOR ELECTRICAL
GENERATION. UM IT'S A LOT OF
MONEY. NOW. WE HAVE MEMBERS THAT
ARE PUBLICLY TRADED
CORPORATIONS. WE HAVE A LOT MORE
THAN OUR LITERAL MOM AND POP
OPERATION, SO THAT'S A LOT OF
MONEY TO ASK FOR, AND IF A SHIP
IS RENDERED UNABLE TO OPERATE IN
CALIFORNIA BECAUSE OF THESE
RULES. THEY CAN'T BE DOING THE
WORK TO MAKE THE MONEY TO PAY
FOR THE UPGRADES. AND WHEN YOU
LOOK AT THAT'S THE COST TO BUY
THE ENGINES. YOU ALSO NEED TIME
IN A SHIPYARD. YOU'RE GONNA HAVE
TO MODIFY THE VESSEL IN SOME WAY
WHEN IT COMES TO DPS AND S. C. R
S. SO THESE ARE MAJOR
INVESTMENTS AND YOU MIGHT WIND
UP YOU KNOW, BASICALLY ZEROING
OUT THE VALLEY OF A SHIP WITH
ALL THE WORK THAT GOES INTO IT.
SO AS WE LOOK AT THESE
REGULATIONS IF THEY ARE
UNCHANGED, THEY HAVE TO COMPLY
WITH THAT. FIGURE OUT HOW TO
COMPLY WITH THAT AND THEN FIGURE
OUT WHAT'S NEXT. MAYBE IT'S
HYDROGEN. WE'VE HEARD A LOT
ABOUT HYDROGEN TODAY. SO IT'S
CONTINUAL UPGRADES. AND YOU
KNOW, WE'RE PROBABLY AT NORTH OF
$1.5 BILLION NOW. I KNOW THAT
THE CARL MOYER PROGRAM HAS HAD
SOME UPDATED FLEXIBILITY, WHICH
HAS BEEN HELPFUL. WE HOPE OUR
MEMBERS CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF
THAT. UH BUT AS OF NOW, THE
STATE'S ONLY HAD ALLOCATED $60
MILLION TO SPECIFICALLY COMPLY
WITH THE HARBOR CRAFT RULE.
YEAH. AND OTHER TYPES OF VESSELS
ARE BEING PRIORITIZED IN THAT
THAT PROGRAM OVER OUR INDUSTRY,
SO IF WE WANT TO KEEP THESE
TUGBOATS WORKING, SERVING THE
CARGO VESSELS THAT COME IN DOING
OFFSHORE WIND WORK MOVING UP AND
DOWN THE RIVERS. HERE, UM WE'RE
GONNA NEED TO FIND A LOT MORE
FUNDING, NOT JUST FOR THIS, BUT
WHATEVER THE NEXT ITERATION OF
THE RULES ARE IN ORDER TO
COMPLY. THANK YOU.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S POPPIN. DO YOU
HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? HMM. I DO SO
. FIRST OF ALL THIS PANEL, THE
FIRST HALF OF IT SCARED THE
DAYLIGHTS OUT OF ME. AND THEN
THE SECOND HALF OF IT GAVE ME
HOPE. SO I THANK YOU FOR AT
LEAST HAVING SOME BALANCE TO THE
CONSULTANT SHARE WHO'S NOT HERE?
SO THAT'S THE FIRST PART OF MY
COMMENTS. UM MR POULOS PAWLOWSKI
. UM I HOPE I DIDN'T PUT YOUR
NAME. OH, PODOLSKI. I GOT YOU,
UM YOU IN PARTICULAR GAVE ME A
LOT OF HOPE. FIRST OF ALL, I WAS
IN CATALONIA THIS SUMMER AND I
DID SEE YOUR WIND TURNED BYNES
OFF IN THE DISTANCE ON THE HILL.
SO CONGRATULATIONS THERE. I WAS
VERY HOPEFUL ALSO BECAUSE YOU
SAID YOU, YOUR COMPANY FINANCES
A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS, SO
YOU'VE GOT MY ATTENTION. MR
JACOBSON. I AM A CO AUTHOR ON
THE CLIMATE BOND. I HEAR YOU
LOUD AND CLEAR, SO I JUST WANTED
TO MAKE THOSE INITIAL COMMENTS.
UM I WAS CURIOUS. WHAT DOES YOUR
FINE THE OUR TUGBOAT FOLKS? WHAT
DOES YOUR FINANCING LOOK LIKE
WITH RESPECT TO UPGRADING OTHER
THAN NEEDING MONEY FROM THE
STATE, AND I APPRECIATE YOU
BEING VERY DIRECT AND GIVING ME
SOME SPECIFIC NUMBERS. I'M ALSO
A LITTLE INTRIGUED. I WAS TRYING
TO FIGURE OUT WHAT HAPPENED TO
BAINES. BILL I SEE IT'S STUCK IN
SENATE RULES SO TRY TO FOLLOW UP
AND WHY WE'RE THERE AND WHY THAT
ISN'T MOVING FORWARD, AT LEAST
TO GIVE YOU MORE TIME AS YOU
RELATED TO THE CARDBOARD, WHICH
IS YOU'RE SO ELEGANTLY PUT IS
NAUGHTY SAFETY AGENCIES. SO
YOU'RE UP AGAINST IT. BUT WHAT
IS YOUR FINANCING LOOK LIKE
OTHER THAN WHAT YOU MIGHT GET
FROM THE STATE. THERE'S A FEW
FEDERAL OPPORTUNITIES OF OUR
MEMBERS HAVE BEEN ABLE TO TAKE
ADVANTAGE OF, BUT MORE OFTEN
THAN NOT, IT'S UM THEY'RE GONNA
HAVE TO GO TO THE BANKS AND
BORROW UM AND AS I SAID, YOU
KNOW, IF A BOAT GETS TAKEN OUT
OF SERVICE THAT CAN'T BE
GENERATING REVENUE, SO IT'S KIND
OF A YOU GET HIT ON BOTH SIDES
OF IT. UM, BUT YOU KNOW, THERE'S
SOME FEDERAL FUNDING AVAILABLE.
OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S A NATIONAL
COMPETITION FOR THOSE FUNDS. UM
SO MOST OF OUR MEMBERS ARE
LOOKING FOR, UH, GOING TO A BANK
OR YOU KNOW, BORROWING MONEY
ELSEWHERE AND LET ME ASK ONE
FOLLOW UP QUESTION IT IS THAT
THE CARDBOARD UH, HAS REJECTED
YOUR CONCERNS ALTOGETHER OR JUST
NEVER RESPONDED. GO AHEAD AND
COMPLY WITH THE TIMELINE. WE
DON'T REALLY CARE ABOUT YOU.
WHERE ARE YOU IN THIS PROCESS?
SURE, IT'S BEEN AN INTERESTING
EVOLUTION. I KNOW. UH I WASN'T
PART OF A W. O IN THE FIRST
COMMERCIAL HARBOR. COLLATERAL
CAME ONLINE. BUT OUR MEMBERS
HAVE TOLD US THAT AT THAT POINT,
IT WAS A COLLABORATIVE PROCESS.
THERE WAS A GIVE AND TAKE A
LISTEN TO OUR CONCERNS. THEY
EVEN GAVE IN TO SOME OF OUR
CONCERNS. THIS NEW ITERATION. UM
. THEY HAVE LISTENED TO NOTHING
THAT I'M AWARE OF. WE MET WITH
THE CARB STAFF IN MARCH APRIL
AND THE STAFF SAID. WE WANT TO
HEAR EVERYTHING YOU HAVE TO SAY.
BUT WE'RE WE'RE NOT REOPENING
THE RULE. UM IT'S REALLY PUT US,
UH, AT A LOSS BECAUSE, AS I
SAID, WE'RE NOT AFRAID OF
REGULATION. UM WE WORK WITH
FEDERAL AND STATE ENTITIES ALL
OVER THE COUNTRY. WE HAVE THE
LONGEST STANDING SAFETY
PARTNERSHIP WITH THE UNITED
STATES COAST GUARD WE MEET AT
THE REGIONAL LEVEL AND AT THE
NATIONAL LEVEL MULTIPLE TIMES A
YEAR. AH SO THIS ISN'T SOMETHING
WHERE WE'RE JUST SAYING THE SKY
IS FALLING. WE CAN'T DO IT. UM
BUT WE HAVE REAL CONCERNS. UM
THEY'VE THEY'VE REALLY LISTENED
TO NONE OF OUR COMPLAINTS. AND
THEY REALLY HAVEN'T LISTENED TO
THE COAST GUARD, EITHER. UM SO
IT'S BEEN VERY CONCERNING
INTERACTION WITH THEM. AS I
SAID, YOU SCARED THE DAYLIGHTS
OUT OF ME. I WOULD LIKE TO
FOLLOW UP IN REGARDS TO HOW THAT
AFFECTS, YOU KNOW THE WORKING
MAN AND WOMAN. THE COST. SO ONE
OF OUR PREMIER COS. OPERATES
RIGHT HERE IN SAN FRANCISCO.
THEY ALSO OPERATE IN L A AND
THEY'RE AHEAD OF THE STANDARD
RIGHT NOW. THEY WENT AHEAD AND
GOT TIER THREE ENGINES WHEN THEY
WEREN'T REQUIRED TO. THEY'RE
DOING TIER FOUR ENGINES. THE
COST TO PUT THESE DEVICES ON IS
OUT OF POCKET. SO AS I GO
NEGOTIATE A LABOR DEAL FOR MY
50, OR 75 MEMBERS AT $2000 A
MONTH FOR HEALTH CARE AND $700 A
MONTH INTO THEIR PENSION, NOT TO
MENTION $160,000 WAGE LINE
INCREASE THAT WE'RE GOING TO,
YOU KNOW, GO ASK FOR AND WE'RE
TRYING TO STAY AHEAD OF THE COST
OF LIVING LIKE EVERY OTHER UNION
. SO, UH, THOSE COMPANIES ARE
GOING TO LEAVE. YOU KNOW, I HAVE
ONE COMPANY THAT HAS A BETTER
DEAL TO SELL THEIR BOATS TO THE
EAST COAST TO WORK ON OFFSHORE
WIND BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE
SAME CALIFORNIA REQUIREMENTS. UM
SO WHAT? WHAT WHAT? WHAT THIS.
DOES IT RUINS BUSINESSES. IT
PUTS MARINERS OUT OF WORK, AND
SO WE HAVE TO TRANSITION THEM
INTO DIFFERENT COMPANIES OR
DIFFERENT LINES OF WORK. IT IS.
IT'S A SNOWBALL AT THE TOP OF
THE HILL THAT COULD JUST RUIN
THE HOUSE AT THE BOTTOM. AND IF
I MAY ADD ONE MORE PEACE. UM YOU
KNOW, THE OLD SAYING IS, IF YOU
CAN'T AGREE ON THE PROBLEM,
YOU'LL NEVER AGREE ON THE
SOLUTION. WE COULDN'T EVEN AGREE
WITH THEM ON THE NUMBER OF
VESSELS THIS WOULD AFFECT CARBS
SAID THERE WERE 229 VESSELS
SIMILAR TO THE ONES MY AGENCY
REPRESENTS IN CALIFORNIA, BUT
REAL LIFE DATA FROM THE
AUTOMATED IDENTIFICATION SYSTEM.
SHOW THAT THERE WERE 200
VESSELS. MOREOVER THEY THEY.
INFLATED THOSE NUMBERS LARGELY
TO MAKE OUR MISSION SEEM WORSE
THAN THEY ARE. UM WE HAD AN
INDEPENDENT STUDY DONE THAT
SHOWED THE DRASTICALLY
OVERESTIMATED THAT WE PRESENTED
THAT TO THEM, AND THEY JUST SAID
OKAY, THANKS AND THEN MOVED
AHEAD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM
CAPTAIN ABOUT SAFETY, UM OF THE
MEN AND WOMEN. UM YOUR MEMBERS.
YOU RAISED IT EARLY ON IN YOUR
TESTIMONY. HOW SAFETY IS AN
ISSUE? UM AND I THINK YOU
TOUCHED ON IT. JUST IN YOUR
COMMENTS ABOUT THE PREVIOUS
QUESTION OFFERED BY MY COLLEAGUE
, BUT CAN YOU TALK ABOUT AGAIN
THE SAFETY PIECE? UM AND WHAT
DOES THAT. LOOK LIKE BECAUSE WE
WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE MEN
AND WOMEN WHO ARE EMPLOYED BY
THE PORTS, UM, DAY IN AND DAY
OUT, ARE WORKING IN A SAFE
ENVIRONMENT AND YOU RAISED THAT
AND I JUST WANT TO JUST TRY TO
EXTRACT A LITTLE BIT MORE FROM
THAT IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE.
ABSOLUTELY THANK YOU. THANK YOU
FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY ANSWER, SO
LET'S TAKE AN EXAMPLE OF SOME OF
THE FAILURES THAT HAVE TAKEN
PLACE LANDSIDE. SO WE'VE HAD
TRUCKS. WE'VE HAD SCHOOL BUSSES
WITH THESE DEVICES WOULD CATCH
FIRE. THEY WOULD HAVE TO
EVACUATE THE STUDENTS OR THE
PEOPLE LOCKED. SO YOU HAVE LOTS
OF CARGO POTENTIAL LOSS OF LIFE,
BUT YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO
EVACUATE ON THE ROADSIDE. YOU
DON'T HAVE THAT ABILITY ON THE
WATER, YOU KNOW, AND THE IMAGINE
. SO I WANT TO GIVE YOU TWO
EXAMPLES. SO IF THAT BUS DRIVER
WOULD HAVE BUS FULL OF KIDS HAD
TO LOSE HIS STEERING. AND HIS
BRAKES AND HIS ABILITY TO
ACCELERATE. WOULD THAT BE
TOLERABLE? WOULD WE SIT IN A
ROOM AND SAY, WELL, LET'S TAKE
THAT CHANCE, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT
HAPPENS ON A SHIP. THE MOMENT
YOU LOSE YOUR ENGINES. YOU'VE
LOST YOUR ABILITY TO TURN.
YOU'VE LOST YOUR ABILITY TO STOP
AND YOU'VE LOST YOUR ABILITY TO
SPEED UP TO GET OUT OF THE WAY
OF ANYTHING. SO YOU'RE BASICALLY
DEAD IN THE WATER. AND IF YOU'RE
TALKING ON AH, CONTAINER SHIP
AND THAT HAPPENS. UH, THERE'S
PROBABLY GONNA BE A POTENTIAL
LOSS OF LIFE. AND AT THIS POINT
WHEN WE DO CONTRACTS, WE HAVE TO
FACTOR IN THE DANGER. YOU KNOW
WHEN WE'RE SITTING DOWN WITH
THESE COMPANIES, UH, NORMALLY,
THAT'S NOT A FACTOR, YOU KNOW,
BECAUSE WE TRY TO OPERATE IN A
SAFE ENVIRONMENT, BUT ANY DEVICE
AND I'VE HAD IT HAPPEN ON THE
VESSELS THAT WEREN'T THIS
RESTRICTED. YOU KNOW WHAT I
MEAN? I HAD AN INCIDENT AS A
CAPTAIN, WHERE YOU LOST YOUR
ENGINE. I LOST MY ENGINE AND WE
HAD A CATASTROPHE. UM YOU KNOW
THE COAST GUARD DEEMED THAT I
WAS NOT AT FAULT BECAUSE IT WAS
A MECHANICAL FAILURE. HOWEVER
THOSE 212 PASSENGERS WERE STILL
MY RESPONSIBILITY. AND ANY
CAPTAIN THAT TAKES A SHIP OUT OR
BOAT OUT YOUR CREW. THAT'S YOUR
PRIMARY CONCERN. YOU KNOW, WE
CAN LOSE THE GOODS WE CAN. YOU
KNOW, WE CAN LOSE THE PRODUCT.
YOU CAN'T LOSE LIFE AND SO ANY
DEVICE THAT'S GONNA INHIBIT
CAPTAIN'S ABILITY TO SAFELY
RETURN IS UNACCEPTABLE. MAY I
HAVE 11 POINT? UM ONE OF THE
THINGS I FAILED TO MENTION WITH
THE INSTALLATION OF THESE PIECES
OF EQUIPMENT ABOUT AVOIDING A
TIER CERTIFICATION OR WARRANTY.
SO WITHOUT THOSE WARRANTIES, YOU
LOSE THE ABILITY TO GET
INSURANCE. AND UNDER THE JONES
ACT, FEDERAL LAW FROM 1920. THE
MEN AND WOMEN THAT WORK ON JONES
ACT. VESSELS DON'T QUALIFY FOR
WORKERS COMP. SO THE SHIP OWNERS
ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL OF THAT,
AND WITHOUT INSURANCE. THEY
CAN'T MAKE SURE THAT IF SOMEBODY
DOES GET INJURED THAT THAT THEY
CAN BE TAKEN CARE OF. SO THERE'S
IT. THE WHOLE PROBLEM IS AN
ONION THAT YOU KNOW, THE MORE
AND MORE UM PEEL AT THE MORE AND
MORE PROBLEMS YOU FIND, AND I
APOLOGIZE FOR NOT MENTIONING IT
BEFORE, BUT BUT IT JUST OCCURRED
TO ME AS CAPTAIN HUNTER WAS
DISCUSSING. WELL I WANT TO THANK
THIS PANEL FOR AGAIN YOUR
TESTIMONY THAT YOU PROVIDE THIS
SELECT COMMITTEE. UH ALL OF US
HAVE TAKEN COPIOUS NOTES AND
AGAIN, IT'S BEING RECORDED, AND,
UM, MEMBERS WHO ARE ON THE
SELECT COMMITTEE, THEIR STAFFS
ARE WATCHING IT AND TAKING NOTES
AS WELL. AND SO WE APPRECIATE
YOUR TESTIMONY AND GIVING US THE
INSIGHT IN TERMS OF THE BARRIERS
BUT ALSO AT THE SAME TIME
LOOKING AT HOW AND THE SUCCESSES
THAT WE HAVE MOVING FORWARD.
JUST WANT TO SAY THAT CARB DID
IN FACT, APPEAR AT OUR LAST
HEARING AT THE PORT OF LOS
ANGELES. THE ONE IN THE SOUTH.
UM WE'RE WE HAVE EVERY REASON
BELIEVE THEY'RE WATCHING AND
CERTAINLY TAKING IN YOUR
TESTIMONIES AS WELL. UM, AND WE
WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WORK,
UM NOT AS INDIVIDUALS BUT
COLLABORATIVELY TO TRY TO
ADDRESS THIS ISSUE, AND
CERTAINLY WE NEED THAT STATE
AGENCY TO BE PART OF THE
CONVERSATION AND HELPING US
SOLVE THE SOLUTIONS TO MAKING
SURE THAT, UH, THE PORTS IN
CALIFORNIA CONTINUED TO BE THE
FAITH OF THE FOURTH WORLD
ECONOMY MOVING FORWARD RIGHT
BECAUSE FOR ME, I REPRESENT AND
DID REPRESENT COMMUNITIES NOT
ONLY WAS HIT HARD DO THE BECAUSE
OF THE PANDEMIC, BUT THEY WERE
HIT HARD, JUST TRYING TO KEEP
AND MAKE ENDS MEET, AND WE KNOW
THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
WE KEEP PEOPLE EMPLOYED AND
CONTINUE TO BE ON THE JOB TO
CONTINUE TO HELP AS A PARTNER TO
MOVE. CALIFORNIA CAN MOVE
ACCOUNT OF BORNEO FORWARD SO
WITH THAT, I WANT TO SAY THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. I'M LOOKING
AROUND TO SEE IF THERE'S
ANYTHING THAT I MISSED OUT
BEFORE I LET YOU GO. UM THAT'S
IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE'RE
GOING TO MOVE TO OUR PUBLIC
COMMENT SECTION. AND, UM FOR
THOSE OF YOU WHO WEREN'T IN THE
ROOM. UM THERE'S A MICROPHONE.
THAT'S A PODIUM THERE. WE INVITE
YOU TO COME AND LINE UP. WE
ASKED YOU AND ENTERED, UH, YOU
KNOW, INTRODUCE YOURSELF. YOU
HAVE TWO MINUTES AND I WILL, UM
TIME YOU ON IT THOSE TWO MINUTES
WE ASK THAT YOU BE COURTEOUS.
UM, UM AS YOU AS YOU CAN, UM,
WHEN GIVING YOUR TESTIMONY AND
AGAIN FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO WISH
UH OR WANT TO ADD TO IT AND TWO
MINUTES, NOT ENOUGH. WE INVITE
YOU TO PLEASE SUBMIT YOUR
WRITTEN TESTIMONY TO US IN
WRITING AND IT WAS CERTAINLY
WILL BE INCORPORATED AND WE WILL
MAKE SURE THAT OUR COLLEAGUES MY
COLLEAGUES GET COPIES OF YOUR
TESTIMONIES. YOU PROVIDING UM,
WITH US TODAY AND SO WITH THAT
SAID, PLEASE, GENTLEMEN. PLEASE
STEP UP TO THE MICROPHONE AND
JUST INTRODUCE YOURSELF THAT
THERE'S ORGANIZATIONS YOU
REPRESENTING. PLEASE, UM,
SHARING. YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH THERE. MY
NAME IS ROBERT ESTRADA. I'M THE
REGIONAL DIRECTOR FOR THE INLAND
BOATMEN'S UNION OF THE PACIFIC,
WHERE THE MARINE DIVISION OF THE
I'LL W YOU AND LIKE CAPTAIN
HUNTER. I REPRESENT MARINERS AND
MANY OF THEM TALK ABOUT
MARINERS. AND SO YOU KNOW, I WAS
REALLY HAPPY TO HEAR SOME OF THE
CONCERNS THAT I WOULD CARRY THE
SO WELL EXPRESSED SO
ARTICULATELY. YOU KNOW, THE
WHOLE THE WHOLE TABLE, AND THE
PREVIOUS PANELS WERE ALL RIGHT
ON TOP OF THEIR GAME, BUT I
CERTAINLY REALLY IDENTIFY WITH
WHAT CAPTAIN HUNTER AND MR
BERTELSEN SAID DOWN ON THE END.
UM YOU KNOW WHEN I WHEN I LOOK
AT THE CONCERNS ABOUT THE MOVE
TOWARDS CLEANER ENERGY TO ME,
THERE'S ALMOST NO AMOUNT OF
INVESTMENT THAT'S TOO MUCH
BECAUSE I SEE IT AS AN
EXISTENTIAL THING. SO THIS IS
NOTHING THAT I WOULD BRUSH ASIDE
LIGHTLY. WHAT CARB IS DOING? YOU
KNOW IS THIS GOD'S WORK? I MEAN,
WE NEED WE NEED TO CHANGE OUR
HABITS WE HAVE TO. AND SO THAT'S
NOT IN QUESTION. AND YET THE
CONCERNS ABOUT SAFETY THAT WERE
EXPRESSED AND ALSO ABOUT COST.
THEY ALSO CAN'T BE, UM, SORT OF
BRUSHED ASIDE. YOU KNOW, THE
MOST THE MOST FEARSOME WORD IF
YOU'RE ON A BOAT IS FIRE. I
MEAN, THERE'S NOWHERE TO GO AND
SO IT WE CAN'T. WE CAN'T TAKE
THAT LIGHTLY. IF THERE ARE
UNPROVEN ELEMENTS OF THIS
TECHNOLOGY, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE
THAT IT'S SAFE. AS TO THE COST.
UM YOU KNOW, I REPRESENT
EMPLOYEES WITH EMPLOYERS HERE IN
THE BAY THAT AS THESE AS THESE
CARB INCREASED REGULATIONS CAME
IN, THEY HAD TO SEND THEIR TUGS
OUT OF STATE. AND UH, AND SOME
OF THOSE TUGS WEREN'T REPLACED.
AND SO WE LOST CAPACITY AND
EMPLOYERS THAT I REPRESENT HERE.
AS A RESULT, THESE SAME BOATS
ARE OPERATING UP IN THE
NORTHWEST. NOW THEY'RE NOT
OPERATING HERE, AND WE DIDN'T
GET REPLACEMENTS. AND SO YOU
KNOW, THERE'S A BALANCE TO BE
STRUCK AND WHERE THAT BALANCE
IS, I LEAVE IT TO SMARTER MINDS
THAN MYSELF. BUT THESE ARE ALL
VERY IMPORTANT ISSUES. LAST
THING I WOULD SAY IS JUST WHEN
YOU'RE ASKING. WHAT COULD WHAT
COULD THE LEGISLATURE DO? AND A
KIND OF A SHIFT HERE? UM YOU
KNOW THIS THIS WONDERFUL
OPPORTUNITY OF WIND THIS
OFFSHORE WIND WE'VE BEEN PUSHING
AND PUSHING AND PUSHING, TRYING
TO GET OUR OUR FOOT IN THE DOOR.
WE WANT TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
UNLIKE THE BUILDING TRADES. WHAT
WE DON'T HAVE WHAT NO OTHER
UNIONS HAVE THAT THE BUILDING
TRADES HAVE BECAUSE THEY HAVE
THEIR PROJECT LABOR AGREEMENTS
AND SO THEY CAN SET THINGS UP IN
ADVANCE. THEY KNOW WHAT WORKERS
THEY NEED. THEY CAN THEY CAN,
YOU KNOW THAT JUSTIFIES
EXPENDITURE ON TRAINING AND
HIRING ALL THAT STUFF? IT'S
ILLEGAL FOR US TO HAVE A PROJECT
LABOR AGREEMENT AND YET WHEN WE
GET OUR SHORTER NOTICE, UM CALL
TO BE BRINGING PEOPLE FORWARD.
WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE
THESE WORKERS AND SO TRAINING
TRAINING AT A POOL OF WORKERS IS
A HUGE DEAL FOR US, AND
ESPECIALLY ALL THE MORE SO WITH
SUCH SHORT NOTICE. IF WE DON'T
KNOW IF OUR COMPANY IS GOING TO
GET THE CONTRACT, WE DON'T KNOW
HOW MANY THEY'RE GONNA NEED. WE
DON'T KNOW ANY OF THIS UNTIL
IT'S MUCH CLOSER TO THAT
THRESHOLD, UNLIKE THE BUILDING
TRADES, AND SO IF THERE'S
SOMETHING THAT I WOULD THROW ON
YOUR RADAR, IT'S IF WE COULD DO
SOMETHING TO GET A POOL OF
WORKERS READY FOR THAT DEMAND SO
THAT WE CAN RESPOND TO IT. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD
AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS SUSAN WITH
EARTH JUSTICE. WE REPRESENT
CLIENTS AND PARTNERS ON THE
FRONT LINES OF THE WORSENING
FREIGHT POLLUTION ACROSS
CALIFORNIA, INCLUDING IN WEST
OAKLAND, STOCKED IN THE VALLEY,
THE EMPIRE IN SOUTH COAST PORTS,
AND IT'S NOTABLE THAT NOT ONE
REPRESENTATIVE FROM THESE
COMMUNITIES IS PRESENT TODAY.
I'D LIKE TO CLARIFY SOME THINGS
FOR THE RECORD ON THE LIFESAVING
HEALTH RAGS. THE CAR HAS
RECENTLY ADOPTED FIRST I WANT TO
DO AWAY WITH THE ANTIQUATED
ECONOMY VERSUS ENVIRONMENT
ARGUMENTS THAT HAVE PRESENTED
BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT SUPPORTED
BY THE DATA. NO HONEST
ACCOUNTING LOOKS EXCLUSIVELY AT
UPFRONT COSTS WITHOUT
CONSIDERING SAVINGS. FOR EXAMPLE
, THE DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE IS
ANALYSIS OF THESE RULES FOUND
THAT OPERATIONAL SAVINGS ALONE
IN OTHER WORDS, NOT INCLUDING
HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENT. LEAD TO
OVER 48 BILLION IN NET SAVINGS.
IN OTHER WORDS, YOU COULD
JUSTIFY THESE RULES PURELY ON
ECONOMIC GROUNDS BECAUSE IT
RESULTS IN SO MANY SAVINGS
PASSED ONTO FLEET, SMALL
BUSINESSES AND CONSUMERS. WHEN
YOU ADD THE HEALTH SAVINGS, THE
BENEFITS OF THESE RULES IN
DOLLAR VALUES DRAMATICALLY
OUTWEIGH THEIR COSTS. ON THE
CONCERN THAT THE CARB
REGULATIONS ARE TOO SPECIFIC OR
PRESCRIPTIVE. YOU SHOULD ASK FOR
CLARIFICATION WHAT THE INDUSTRY
IS ASKING FOR ALL THE PANELISTS
AGREED. THEY WANT TO GET TO ZERO
EMISSIONS. WELL, THAT'S EXACTLY
WHAT THE CAR BRAGS DO. THEY SET
THE STANDARD AT ZERO MISSIONS
AND ALLOW ANY COMPLIANCE PATHWAY
THAT ACHIEVES THAT. SO OPERATORS
ARE FREE TO CHOOSE HYDROGEN FUEL
CELL OR BATTERY ELECTRIC. IF
WHAT THE PANELISTS MEAN IS THAT
THEY DON'T WANT TO BE REQUIRED
TO REACH ZERO MISSIONS. THEY
SHOULD HAVE TO ADMIT THAT NEXT.
THESE RULES DO ALREADY INCLUDE
FEASIBILITY ASSESSMENTS AND
STUDIES, AND THEY INCLUDE
SEVERAL EXEMPTIONS AND
EXTENSIONS IF COMPLIANCE IS
DEEMED INFEASIBLE, THERE'S AN
EXEMPTION EXEMPTION OR EXTENSION
FOR VEHICLE AVAILABILITY,
SUFFICIENT POWER SUPPLY,
INFRASTRUCTURE DELAYS,
OPERATIONAL CONSTRAINTS, BUT YOU
DON'T GET TO JUST CLAIM IT'S
INFEASIBLE. YOU HAVE TO ACTUALLY
MAKE THEM DEMONSTRATION. SO IT'S
NOT ACCURATE TO SAY THAT THESE
RULES DEMAND SOMETHING
INFEASIBLE. THEY JUST DEMAND
THAT INDUSTRY GIVE IT AN HONEST
EFFORT AND PROVE WHY THEY CAN'T
TAKE A LIFE STAGE SAVING MEASURE
OR WHY IT'S NOT POSSIBLE YET.
THERE'S MORE, I COULD SAY ON THE
HARBOR CRAFT RULE IN THE SAFETY
ISSUES. THESE VESSELS HAVE BEEN
OPERATING THIS TECHNOLOGY IN THE
NAVY FOR MORE THAN NINE YEARS.
CARBON EXPECTS SEVERAL
MANUFACTURERS WILL RECEIVE THEIR
VERIFICATION FOR LEVEL THREE DPS
FILTERS BY 2024, AND THEY ALSO
GRANTED UNLIMITED COMPLIANCE
EXEMPTIONS IF THERE ARE ISSUES
WITH TECHNOLOGY, VISIBILITY AND
SAFETY AGAIN, FINISH YOUR
THOUGHT. PERFECTION JUST EFFORT.
SO MANY MORE POINTS TO CORRECT.
THAT'S WHY I ENCOURAGE YOU TO
INVITE A BROADER SET OF VOICES
TO THE FUTURE PANELS. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HELLO THANK
YOU. MY NAME IS KATRINA. THOMAS
I'M GOING ATTORNEY WITH EARTH
JUSTICE. I WORKED CLOSELY WITH
GROUPS IN WEST OAKLAND TO
ADVOCATE FOR ELECTRIFICATION OF
SHIPS IMPORT EQUIPMENT TO LESSEN
THE AIR QUALITY IN PUBLIC HEALTH
BURDENS THAT IMPORTANT FREIGHT
INDUSTRY HAVE HAD HISTORICALLY
ON WEST OAKLAND. INCREASED RATES
OF ASTHMA, CANCER, HEART DISEASE
AND LOW BIRTH RATES ARE THE
REALITIES IN WEST OAKLAND, AND
THEY RESULT FROM THE INCREASED
POLLUTION BROUGHT ON BY FREIGHT
AND GOOD MOVEMENTS AT THE PORTAL
OAKLAND AND THIS IS THE CASE
ACROSS ALL FRONTLINE COMMUNITIES
ON ALL THE PORTS ACROSS THE
STATE. THE PERSPECTIVES OF
COMMUNITIES MOST BURDENED BY THE
EXTERNALITIES OF PORTS AND GOODS
MOVEMENT HAVE NOT BEEN
REPRESENTED. TODAY THEY WERE NOT
REPRESENTED IN THE PRIOR TO
MEETINGS, EITHER. AND THIS IS
SHAMEFUL, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE
PROVIDED THIS FEEDBACK AND THE
LIST OF ADVOCATES WEEKS AGO TO
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S GIBSON STAFF.
WITHOUT COMMUNITY VOICES HERE,
YOU WILL NOT HAVE AN ACCURATE
UNDERSTANDING OF PORTS AND GOOD
MOVEMENTS IN CALIFORNIA AND ANY
WHITE PAPER PRODUCED WITHOUT
THIS WILL BE UNPRODUCTIVE. THE
INFORMATION SHARED IN THESE
HEARINGS WILL INFORM STATE
POLICIES AND REGULATIONS AND WE
CANNOT SAY SET STATE POLICIES
BASED ON INCOMPLETE AND FALSE
INFORMATION. CALIFORNIA PORTS
ARE RECEIVING UNPRECEDENTED
LEVELS OF STATE AND PUBLIC
FUNDING INVESTMENT THAT WILL
HELP MODERNIZE OPERATIONS AND
SHOULD BE USED TO ELIMINATE AIR
POLLUTION. UNDERSTANDING THE
IMPACT THAT THE FRUIT INDUSTRY
HAS ON FRONTLINE COMMUNITIES
NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED WHEN THE
STATE DETERMINES WHICH PROJECTS
TO FUND SO THAT COMMUNITIES ARE
NOT HARMED. MY PUBLICLY FUNDED
INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS AT
THE PORTS. WE'VE SEEN THE PORT
OF OAKLAND, PURSUE PROJECTS THAT
WOULD INCREASE HARMFUL AIR
POLLUTION AND PARTICULATE MATTER
EMISSIONS UNDER THE GUISE OF
MODERNIZATION. IMPORTANT
MOVEMENTS CANNOT COME AT THE
EXPENSE OF PUBLIC HEALTH. REPORT
OF OAKLAND HAS RELIED ON LETTERS
FROM COMMUNITY AND ENVIRONMENTAL
GROUPS TO SECURE SOME OF THE
CURRENTLY AVAILABLE STATE
FUNDING, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT
THIS PARTNERSHIP IS RECIPROCATED
AND THAT THE STATE ENSURE THIS
RECIPROCATION THE STATE NEEDS TO
THINK THROUGH HOW STATE FUNDING
FOR PORTMAN TURN IZATION WILL
INCORPORATE COMMUNITY BENEFITS
TO NOT JUST MINIMIZE HARM TO
COMMUNITIES BUT ALSO MEANINGFUL
E IMPROVE COMMUNITIES LIKE WEST
OAKLAND. THAT FOR TOO LONG HAVE
HAD TO BEAR THE BURDEN OF THE
FOOD INDUSTRY'S IMPACTS. UM I
ALSO JUST WANT TO CONCLUDE
QUICKLY. I KNOW YOU ALL ARE
GOING ON YOUR REPORT TOURS AND
YOU HAVE BEEN GOING ON POOR
TOURS. I HOPE THIS ALSO INCLUDES
A TOUR OF THE FRONTLINE
COMMUNITIES WEST OAKLAND
ENVIRONMENTAL INTEGRATIVE
INDICATORS PROJECT IS AN EJ
GROUP IN WEST OAKLAND THAT RUNS
TOXIC TOURS OF WEST OAKLAND. I
THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR YOU ALL
TO BE THERE AND SEE THE AIR
NOISE AND TRAFFIC POLLUTION, THE
COMMUNITIES AND, UM
ENVIRONMENTAL DRESSES.
COMMUNITIES ARE FORCED TO ENDER.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD
AFTERNOON. I'M JOEL EVEREST WITH
RAMP, REGIONAL ASTHMA MANAGEMENT
AND PREVENTION PROJECT OF THE
PUBLIC HEALTH INSTITUTE. OUR
MISSION IS TO REDUCE THE BURDEN
OF ASTHMA WITH A FOCUS ON HEALTH
EQUITY. ANYONE ELSE. SIS OF THE
PORTS ROLE IN OUR STATE WOULD
NOT BE COMPLETE WITHOUT PAYING
SIGNIFICANT ATTENTION. TO THE
AIR POLLUTION, HEALTH IMPACTS
AND ENVIRONMENTAL INJUSTICES
CREATED BY PORTER OPERATIONS.
EMISSIONS FROM DIESEL TRUCKS,
FOSSIL FUELED SHIPS AND CARGO
HANDLING EQUIPMENT. CAN CAUSE
RESPIRATORY AND CARDIOVASCULAR
DISEASES SUCH AS ASTHMA ONSET IN
CHILDREN AND ADULTS. ASTHMA
ATTACKS, HEART ATTACKS, STROKES,
CANCER AND PREMATURE DEATH.
THESE RISKS ARE NOT BORN EQUALLY
PORTSIDE COMMUNITIES TYPICALLY
LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES AND
COMMUNITIES OF COLOR BEARING IN
ECUADOR BORDER INEQUITABLE
BURDEN FROM POLLUTION FROM
FREIGHT TRANSPORTATION. GIVEN
THAT INCREASED RISK. I URGED THE
COMMITTEE TO CHAMPION EFFORTS TO
ELECTRIFY ANY AND ALL PORTS
OPERATIONS AS QUICKLY AS
POSSIBLE. EXAMPLES INCLUDE
ENSURING THAT WE MEET ZEV
STANDARDS OUTLINED IN THE
ADVANCED CLEAN FLEET AND
ADVANCED CLEAN TRUCK REGULATIONS
REQUIRE IMPORTS TO DEPLOY 100% 0
EMISSION CARGO HANDLING
EQUIPMENT BY 2030 CONTINUING TO
PROVIDE TARGETED ZERO EMISSION
VEHICLE INCENTIVES. I KNOW. MY
COLLEAGUES HERE HAVE MANY OTHER
RECOMMENDATIONS TO OFFER AS
WELL. ADDITIONALLY IT IS
CRITICAL THAT THE COMMITTEE
INCREASE ITS EFFORTS TO BRING
COMMUNITY VOICES TO THE TABLE.
POOR COMMUNITIES SUBSIDIZED THE
COST OF CHEAP PRODUCTS ON OUR
SHELVES WITH THEIR OWN HEALTH
AND WELL BEING, IT IS ONLY FAIR
AND APPROPRIATE THAT COMMUNITY
MEMBERS HIGHLIGHT THE PROBLEMS
ASSOCIATED WITH PORTS AND CRAFT
SOLUTIONS IN THE UPCOMING COURT
TOURS, AS WELL AS THE WHITE
PAPER THE COMMITTEE PLANS ON
PRODUCING IT ALSO MEANS MAKING
THESE TYPES OF MEETINGS ZOOM
ACCESSIBLE FOR PEOPLE WHO CAN'T
ATTEND. THE HEARINGS IN PERSON.
INVOLVING COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND
CONTINUING TO ADVANCE THEIR
ADMISSION POLICIES OR RESULT IN
PUBLIC HEALTH BENEFITS. LIVES
SAVED REDUCTIONS IN CANCER RISK
AND A LOWER BURDEN OF ASTHMA,
PARTICULARLY IN SOME OF
CALIFORNIA'S MOST OVERBURDEN
COMMUNITIES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR
TIME. THANK YOU FOR YOUR
TESTIMONY. GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIR
AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. MY
NAME IS GABRIELLE VERA AND I'M
WITH PACIFIC ENVIRONMENT, A
GLOBAL 501 C PUBLIC BENEFIT
CORPORATION HEADQUARTERED HERE
IN SAN FRANCISCO THAT HAS EARNED
PERMANENT CONSULTATIVE STATUS AT
THE INTERNATIONAL MARITIME
ORGANIZATION. WE WORKED TOO
RAPIDLY ELIMINATE MISSIONS FROM
PORTS AND SHIPS ON A 1.5 °C
TIMELINE. SPECIFIC ENVIRONMENT,
URGES THE COMMITTEE TO CONSIDER
THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND CLIMATE
HARMS FROM SHIPPING IMPORT
OPERATIONS. OPERATIONS IN
SHIPPING ARE MAJOR CONTRIBUTORS
TO CLIMATE AND AIR EMISSIONS.
THE SHIPPING INDUSTRY SPEWS 1
BILLION METRIC TONS OF CARBON
DIOXIDE INTO OUR ATMOSPHERE EACH
YEAR. AT THE U. N
INTERGOVERNMENTAL PANEL ON
CLIMATE CHANGE HAS MADE IT CLEAR
CLIMATE EMISSIONS MUST PEAK
BEFORE 20 25.5 BY 2030 FROM 2019
LEVELS TO STAY ON A 1.5 °C
WARMING TRAJECTORY AND AVERT THE
WORST EFFECTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE.
IN TERMS OF PUBLIC HEALTH
IMPACTS. SHIP POLLUTION
CONTRIBUTES IN ESTIMATED 3700
PREMATURE DEATHS EACH YEAR IN
CALIFORNIA, WHICH
DISPROPORTIONATELY AFFECTS
MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES. IN
WEST OAKLAND. SHIPS MANEUVERING
AND BERTHING ARE THE TOP TWO
CANCER CAUSING SOURCES IN THE
COMMUNITY. TO PROTECT PUBLIC
HEALTH AND ADDRESS THE CLIMATE
EMERGENCY. WE URGED THE
COMMITTEE TO SUPPORT A STANDARD
FOR 100% 0 EMISSION SHIPPING BY
2040. ADDITIONALLY WE ENCOURAGE
YOU TO CONSIDER REQUIREMENTS IN
THE WHITE PAPER FOR THE
DEPLOYMENT OF ZERO EMISSION
INFRASTRUCTURE WITH PLANNING
COMPLETED BY 2025. STRONGER
COMMITMENTS TO DEPLOYING ZERO
EMISSION TECHNOLOGY ACROSS SPORT
OPERATIONS, ROBUST DATA
COLLECTION AND REPORTING TO
ENSURE THAT PORTS ON A PATH TO
ZERO EMISSION AND CLEANER AIR.
THE PRIORITIZATION OF PUBLIC
HEALTH IMPORT, CLEAN AIR PLANES
AND SHORE POWER FOR ALL
CATEGORIES OF VESSELS, AS WELL
AS OFFSHORE CHARGING STATIONS
FOR SHIPS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR
TIME. THANK YOU FOR YOUR
TESTIMONY. CHAIR AND COMMITTEE.
MY NAME IS FRANCIS. I'M AN
ASSOCIATE, A BETTER WORLD GROUP
AND PARTNER WITH PACIFIC
ENVIRONMENTAL ORGANIZATION. YOU
JUST SPOKE BEFORE I'M HERE TO
URGE THE COMMISSION TO ENSURE
THAT WE ARE REALLY THINKING
ABOUT CLEANING UP OUR PORTS AND
MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE
EMPHASIZING THAT SHIP POLLUTION
IS LITERALLY KILLING COMMUNITIES
AT PORTSIDE COMMUNITIES IN
OAKLAND IN ITSELF, AND IT
SUPPORTS IS RESPONSIBLE FOR
BEING THE TOP TO CANCER CAUSING
RESOURCE. SO WE ARE HERE URGING
Y'ALL, ESPECIALLY IN THESE
COMMITTEE MEETINGS IN YOUR WHITE
PAPERS TO BE THINKING ABOUT
ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE
COMMUNITIES, CLIMATE CHANGE IN
PUBLIC HEALTH IN ORDER TO DO
THAT THIS BODY NEEDS TO DO
BETTER. THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT
PROCESS OF THESE MEETINGS
THEMSELVES HAVE BEEN INCREDIBLY
TERRIBLE. WE FOUND OUT THIS WEEK
THAT THE MEETING IS NOT GOING TO
BE HELD IN OAKLAND. BUT AT THE
FERRY BUILDING IN SAN FRANCISCO,
THERE'S STILL NO OPPORTUNITY TO
ENGAGE VIRTUALLY EXCEPT FOR
WATCHING. AND THEN, OF COURSE,
THE AGENDA STILL HAS NOT BEEN
POSTED ONLINE. THIS KIND OF
PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT IS WHAT
PROHIBITS COMMUNITIES FROM BEING
ABLE TO MEANINGFULLY ENGAGE IN
THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS OF
HOW THEIR COMMUNITIES WILL
ENDURE THE FUTURE. WHEN WE TALK
ABOUT PORTS AND SPECIFIC THIS IS
UNIMAGINABLY DIFFERENT BECAUSE
OF THE HEALTH IMPACT REPORTS
HAVE UM RIGHT NOW THERE IS STILL
NO ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE, HEALTH
ADVOCATE OR CLIMATE ADVOCATE
PERSPECTIVE THAT'S BEING GIVEN
THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME AND
RESPECT THAT THESE PANELISTS
HAVE HAD. THESE VOICES ARE VERY
IMPORTANT TO THIS PROCESS. AND
THE FACT THAT THERE IS STILL NOT
HERE MEANS THAT THIS BODY IS
FAILING TO ACTUALLY ADVOCATE
PROTECT THEIR CONSTITUENCIES.
GIBSON I KNOW YOU REPRESENT POOR
COMMUNITIES. IT'S THE SAME WAY
OVER THERE. AND SO TO CONCLUDE
WE'RE ASKING FOR CLEAN PORTS
WERE ASKING FOR CLEAN SHIPS, AND
WE'RE ASKING FOR THE DUE
DILIGENCE OF GIVING COMMUNITIES
AND ADVOCATES PERSPECTIVES THAT
THEY DESERVE IN THIS MEANINGFUL
CONVERSATION. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR
TESTIMONY. GOOD AFTERNOON. UM MY
NAME IS FERNANDO. I'M GOING. I'M
A RESIDENT OF OAKLAND AND HAVE
BEEN FOR ALMOST 10 YEARS NOW MY
HUSBAND AND TEENAGE SON HAVE
LIVED IN OAKLAND ALL THEIR LIVES
AND WE FEEL VERY BLESSED TO, UM,
CALL CALIFORNIA HOME. I ALSO
WORK AS A POLICY ADVOCATE AT THE
ENVIRONMENTAL DEFENSE FUND,
WHICH IS A NONPROFIT
ORGANIZATION. AND AS PART OF MY
JOB, I'M LUCKY TO GET TO WORK
WITH COMMUNITY LEADERS IN
PORTSIDE COMMUNITIES, INCLUDING
WEST OAKLAND, AND I'M ALSO A
STEERING COMMITTEE MEMBER OF THE
WEST OAKLAND COMMUNITY
PROTECTION PROGRAM, OR THE A B
617 COMMUNITY PROGRAM. UM AS
PART OF THAT PROGRAM, THE LOCAL
DISTRICT CONDUCTED A TECHNICAL
ASSESSMENT TO UNDERSTAND THE
MAIN SOURCES. OF POLLUTION
AFFECTING WEST OAKLAND, AND THEY
FOUND THAT THE PORTS OF AUCKLAND
IS BY FAR THE LARGEST
CONTRIBUTOR, ACCOUNTING FOR MORE
THAN 50% OF LOCAL DIESEL
PARTICULATE MATTERS, POLLUTION
UM AND CANCER RELATED TOXICS AND
IN ADDITION TO THAT TRUCKS ON
THE HIGHWAYS CLOSEST TO THE
COMMUNITY ON LOCAL STREETS AND
POLLUTION FROM RAILS ACCOUNT FOR
ANOTHER 20% OF THE SAME
POLLUTANTS. UM THIS IS NOT TO
SAY THAT THE PORTS OF AUCKLAND
HASN'T TAKEN STEPS TO CLEAN UP
ITS OPERATIONS AND LOOKING AT
DANNY, BECAUSE CREDIT WHERE
CREDITS DO THEY REALLY HAVE? AND
PORTIMAO? SHINS HAVE CERTAINLY
DECLINED. HOWEVER RESIDENTS OF
WEST OAKLAND STILL EXPERIENCE
DOUBLE THE RATE OF ASTHMA FROM
TRAFFIC RELATED POLLUTION AND
SPECIFICALLY DIESEL RELATED
POLLUTION COMPARED TO OTHER
PARTS OF AUCKLAND. UM THAT ARE
NOT AS CLOSE TO GOODS MOVEMENT
ACTIVITIES AND YES, PORTS ARE A
MULTI BILLION DOLLAR ECONOMIC
ENGINE FOR CALIFORNIA AND IN
IMPORTANT SOURCE OF LIVELIHOOD
FOR SO MANY, AND I REALLY HEAR
THAT, UM PORTS AND FREIGHT
INDUSTRY ARE CRITICAL FOR THE
SUPPLY CHAIN NOT ONLY FOR THE
STATE, BUT FOR THE NATION. WE'VE
HEARD THAT UM, BUT THE
OPERATIONS OF THIS INDUSTRY AND
IT'S CONTINUING GROWTH DOES COME
AT A COST TO THE SURROUNDING
COMMUNITIES WHO HAVEN'T HAD A
SEAT AT THE TABLE AT THESE
HEARINGS, SO ANY ACTIONS TAKEN
BY THIS COMMUNITY PLEASED NEED
TO PRIORITIZE THE CONCERNS OF
THE COMMUNITIES MOST IMPACTED BY
POURED AND FREIGHT POLLUTION.
AND ZERO TRUCKS MAY NOT HAVE
TAILPIPE EMISSIONS, BUT THEY
STILL HAVE POLLUTION IMPACTS
FROM TIRES, CREATE DUST AND
BREAK WEST AND ALSO WITH
HYDROGEN FUELS. IF THE STOCK
FEED HAS TO COME FROM SOMEWHERE
ELSE THEY HAVE TO BE ATTRACT IN,
SO THAT'S MORE TRUCKS IN THE
COMMUNITIES. SO I REALLY URGE
YOU THAT AS YOU CONTINUE YOUR
LISTENING TO A TO PLEASE MAKE
SURE TO MEET AND CONSULT WITH
COMMUNITY IS TO MAKE SURE THAT
THEY CAN EXPRESS WHAT
INVESTMENTS NEEDS. THEY HAVE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
FOR YOUR TESTIMONY. GOOD MORNING
. SURE AND LEGISLATORS. MY NAME
IS GLORIA ONCE I AM REPRESENTING
LITTLE MANILA, RAISING A
COMMUNITY BASED ORGANIZATION IN
SOUTH STOCKTON AND I ALSO SAID
IN THE STEERING COMMITTEE FOR
THE A B 617 STOCKTON COMMUNITY
PROGRAM SOUTH STOCKTON IS
SAYING, YOU KNOW NORTHERN
CENTRAL VALLEY COMMUNITY HOSTS
TO THE INLAND BOARD OF STOCKTON.
STOCKTON IS IMPACTED BY MULTIPLE
SOURCES OF POLLUTION DUE TO A
LONG LEGACY OF DISCRIMINATORY
PLANNING POLICIES THAT HAVE
PUSHED INDUSTRIAL ACTIVITY TO
THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE
CITY. SUCH AS THE MOST RECENT
BOOM AND WAREHOUSING PROJECTS,
LAYERING THIS ENVIRONMENTAL
CONDITIONS. THE SAN JOAQUIN AIR
POLLUTION CONTROL BOARD HAS NOT
MET THERE. OH SOON AND
PARTICULAR MATTER STANDARDS
SINCE THE LATE 19 SEVENTIES,
MEANING WE, UM THAT WE'RE AWAY.
WAY BEHIND OPERATING OUR
INFRASTRUCTURE. UM BY MEETING BY
NOT MEETING THE CLEAN AIR ACT
REQUIREMENTS AS THE
ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE. THIS
COURSE CONTINUES TO INVOLVED IN
GOVERNMENT FUNDING CONTINUES TO
BE ALLOCATED TO DISADVANTAGED
COMMUNITIES, SUCH AS THROUGH THE
ABC 17 PROGRAM TO MITIGATE
EMISSIONS. IT ONLY MAKES SENSE
THAT LEGISLATIVE DISCUSSIONS
MAKE SPACE FOR ONLINE
COMMUNITIES TO SPEAK UNDER
CONCERNS AND WHAT THEY WOULD
LIKE TO SEE IN REGARDS TO THE
IMPACTS FROM THIS ISSUES SUCH AS
MARITIME LOGISTICS. PARTICULARLY
BECAUSE THIS CONVERSATION'S
TRADITIONALLY FOCUSED ON
ECONOMIC VISIBILITY WOULD SEE
HER CONSIDERATION ABOUT PUBLIC
HEALTH COAST COSTS FROM ASTHMA,
ITS OBSERVATIONS OR
HOSPITALIZATIONS CAUSED BY LONG
TERM EXPOSURE TO AIR POLLUTION.
THIS CONVERSATION TODAY IS AN
EXAMPLE OF HOW THIS STATE
DISREGARDS MEANINGFUL
PARTICIPATION FRONT
ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE ADVOCATES
FOR A LONG TIME SOUTH STOCKTON
HAS BEEN SUBJECT TO THE
ENVIRONMENTAL DEGRADATION AND
HAZARDS RESULTING FROM MULTIPLE
JURISDICTIONS. ENVIRONMENTAL
SORRY INDUSTRIAL AMBITIONS, WITH
THE PORTS OF STOCKTON BEING AN
INFLUENTIAL AGENCY LOCALLY.
THESE INDUSTRIAL AMBITIONS HAVE
SHAPED OUR ENVIRONMENT WITHOUT
CONSIDERATION ABOUT LONG TERM
AIR POLLUTION EXPOSURE TO POUR
ADJACENT COMMUNITIES. ALTHOUGH
IN STOCKTON WE COMMONLY
RECOGNIZED MOBILE SOURCES, SUCH
AS HEAVY DUTY TRUCKS AS THE MAIN
POLLUTERS. OCEANGOING VESSELS
ARE ALSO A LEADING SOURCE OF
POLLUTION, ACCORDING TO THE 2024
HOURS STARTING CLEAN AIRPLANE,
OCEANGOING VESSELS ARE THE
BIGGEST SOURCE OF BULLETS OF AIR
POLLUTION AT THE PORT OF STOCKED
UNMAKING. THE BIGGEST OR MAKING
UP 60% OF NOT NITROGEN OXIDES
EMISSIONS. 60% OF THE ARTICULAR
MURDER EMISSIONS AND 49% OF
GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS. AS
LEGISLATORS JUST YOU SHOULD DO
BETTER. UM USUALLY SORRY, YOU
SHOULD DO EVERYTHING IN YOUR
POWER TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC FROM
HARMFUL AIR POLLUTION BY
SUPPORTING STATE AND LOCAL
EFFORTS TO SPORT A SWIFT
TRANSITION TO ZERO EMISSION
SHIPPING. AND POOR OPERATIONS.
PART OF THAT MEANS SUPPORTING
LOCAL EFFORTS. THANK YOU KNOW
ONE BEHIND ME. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. WE WANT TO BE FAIR WITH
THE TIME THERE'S A LOT OF TO
EVERYONE. WE WANT TO THANK THE
EVERYONE FOR YOUR COMMENTS. UM
AND AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO
REITERATE THAT IF, IN FACT YOU
WISH TO SUBMIT ANY ADDITIONAL
TESTIMONY WILL BE MORE THAN
HAPPY TO TAKE THAT ADDITIONAL
TESTIMONY, UM INTO CONSIDERATION
AS PART OF THE DISCUSSION FOR
TODAY. IN ADDITION TO THAT, UM I
WANTED TO CALL TO YOUR ATTENTION
. WELL, LET ME JUST TALK ABOUT
THIS ONE THING. UM THOSE OF YOU
WHO PROVIDED TESTIMONIES. I WANT
TO THANK THE PANEL FOR TAKING
TIME OUT OF YOUR BUSINESS
SCHEDULE AND BEING PART OF THIS
THE THIS TYPE OF CONVERSATION
THAT INCLUDES MANY DIVERSE
PERSPECTIVES IS THE WAY WE
EXPAND OUR UNDERSTANDING OF
OTHER THINGS THAT WE NEED TO
TAKE IN CONSIDERATION. UM WHEN
ONE PUTTING THE WHITE PAPER
TOGETHER BUT ALSO TAKING
EVERYONE'S CONSIDERATION AND
THEIR CONCERNS IN AS PART OF
THIS DISCUSSION TODAY, I WANT TO
THANK AGAINST SPEAKER ROBERT
REVIS FOR APPROVING THIS
COMMITTEE TO MOVE FORWARD MY
COLLEAGUES WHO ARE HERE AND WAS
HERE FOR GIVING OF THEIR TIME
BEING PART OF THIS ROBUST
DISCUSSION. UM AS AGAIN WE, UH
WE HAVE A NUMBER OF TOURS THAT
ARE ALREADY SCHEDULED AND WE
INVITE EVEN THE PUBLIC TO JOIN
US ON THIS TOUR RIGHT AFTER THE
CONCLUSION OF THIS MEETING. OUR
NEXT TOUR WILL TAKE PLACE
JANUARY THE 12TH. THAT WOULD BE
THE PORTS OF REDWOOD CITY.
JANUARY 19TH THE PORTS OF HUMBLE
FEBRUARY 9TH THE PORTS OF SAN
DIEGO'S TENTATIVE WE HAVE
FEBRUARY 28TH THE PORTS OF
RICHMOND. WE HAVE MARCH 13TH THE
PORTS OF WEST SACRAMENTO AND
SUPPORT OF STOCKTON'S AND ALSO
MARCH 29TH THE PORTS OF HUMBLE
THAT'S ALSO TENTATIVE. I'M
SORRY, WHINY ME IS THE LOVE TO
GO JANUARY. THE 19TH IS THE
PORTAL, WHINY ME. UM AND SO WE
AGAIN WE ASK YOU TO JOIN US SO
THAT WE CAN SEE AND TOUCH AND
FEEL FIRST HAND AND THE COMMENTS
WERE MADE, AND WE'RE CERTAINLY
MIND FOR TAKING THOSE COMMENTS
INTO CONSIDERATION. UM WE HAD
AND WE ALSO BELIEVE THAT THE
CARB IS WATCHING AND VIEWING WHO
TAKES THE COMMUNITY'S INPUT?
THEY'RE THE ONES THAT
IMPLEMENTING THESE POLICIES. AND
SO WE DO HAVE PEOPLE WEIGHING IN
ON THIS CONVERSATION. WE'RE NOT
CLOSED MINDED BY NOT HAVING
PEOPLE WEIGHING IN. WE HAVE
PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR PEOPLE TO
WEIGH IN AND THIS VERY ROBUST
CONVERSATION, SO WE'RE NOT
CLOSED MINDED AS IT RELATES TO
THAT. WE WANT TO TAKE ALL
PERSPECTIVES INTO CONSIDERATION
AS WE MOVE FORWARD. UM AGAIN. I
WANT TO THANK EACH AND EVERY ONE
OF YOU, UM I WANT TO THANK MY
TEAM FOR HELP AND WORKING AND
TRAVELING FROM SACRAMENTO HERE,
UH, TO JOIN US AND PUTTING ALL
OF THIS INFORMATION TOGETHER SO
WE COULD HAVE BEFORE US, UM WANT
TO TURN TO MY TEAM AND SEE
WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S ANYTHING
THAT I AM LEAVING OUT? OKAY
FINAL COMMENTS WILL ASK, UM,
SILLY WOMAN HAPPENED FOR ANY
FINAL COMMENTS OR CLOSING
REMARKS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO
THIS CONCLUDES OUR HEARING WILL
INVITE ALL OF YOU TO COME AND
JOIN US AS WE TOUR THE PORTER
SAN FRANCISCO, UM AND WE'LL WAIT
FOR FURTHER INSTRUCTIONS. HOW IS
THAT GOING TO BE DONE? SCHEDULED
FOR TWO SCHEDULED FOR TWO
O'CLOCK. WE ARE A LITTLE AHEAD
OF TIME, SO WE'RE STILL MEETING
AT TWO O'CLOCK, UM, TIMELINE AND
IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE THIS
COMMITTEE SELECT COMMITTEE ON
PUT ON PORTS AND GOODS MOVEMENT
IS YES. FOR HIMSELF. GREAT THANK
YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT. YES.
OKAY? LEAVING IT TWO O'CLOCK, SO
WE JUST GET THERE BEFORE TWO
O'CLOCK. GREAT 155 AGAIN. WE
THANK THE REPORT OF SAN
FRANCISCO'S FOR HOSTING US AND
THEIR TEAM FOR DOING A
MAGNIFICENT JOB TO THE
COMMISSION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE APPRECIATE EACH AND EVERY ONE
OF YOU AND THIS, UH, SELECT
COMMITTEE ON PORTS AND GOOD
MOVEMENT STANDS ADJOURNED. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH.