GOOD GOOD AFTERNOON. UH WOULD
LIKE TO WELCOME EVERYONE TO THE
ASSEMBLY HIGHER EDUCATION
COMMITTEE. THE ASSEMBLY. HARD
GETTING COMMITTEE IS CALLED TO
ORDER. AND WE WILL BEGIN AT THE
SUBCOMMITTEE. AH AT THIS TIME,
AND I'M REALLY GRATEFUL TO ALL
MY COLLEAGUES FOR BEING HERE.
AND WELCOME TO THE FIRST POLICY
HEARING OF ASSEMBLY HIGHER
EDUCATION COMMITTEE IN 2024.
WHETHER YOU'RE HERE IN PERSON OR
WATCHING VIRTUALLY EXTEND A WARM
WELCOME TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF
YOU WILL SELECT AWARD EXTEND A
WARM WELCOME TO ALL OF THE NEW
MEMBERS OF THIS COMMITTEE.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S BURNER.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S CHAN. SOMEWHERE
A SALE. ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
JACKSON. AND ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
MURATSUCHI. ADDITIONALLY I'D
LIKE TO WELCOME BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE. ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
QUIRK-SILVA, WHO PREVIOUSLY
SERVED ON HIS COMMITTEE A FEW
YEARS AGO. I WILL NOW GO OVER
SOME KEY ELEMENTS OF THE
STRUCTURE OF TODAY'S HEARING.
PLEASE NOTE WHILE THEY'RE
SHARING WHAT I HAVE PHONE
TESTIMONY. WE ARE ACCEPTING
WRITTEN TESTIMONY THROUGH THE
POSITION LETTER PORTAL ON THE
COMMITTEE'S WEBSITE AT WWW DOT A
H E. D. DOT ASSEMBLY THAT
CA.GOV. THOSE WILL BE TAKEN UP
AND SIGN IN ORDER. AUTHORS YOU
CAN SIGN IN AT THE SERGEANT'S
DESK IN ROOM 447. ADDITIONALLY
PLEASE NOTE THAT THE GUIDELINES
FOR BILL HAS HEARD IN THIS
COMMITTEE IS STILL OUT FOR TO
LEAD WITNESSES AND SUPPORT. AND
TRULY WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION
TO SPEAK FOR NO MORE THAN TWO
MINUTES EACH. STAKEHOLDER GROUPS
AND ENTITIES THAT ARE NEITHER
SUPPORT NOR AN OPPOSITION WILL
BE ALLOWED TO GIVE TESTIMONY FOR
NO MORE THAN TWO MINUTES WHEN IT
CALLED FOR TWEENERS. THE MEASURE
HAS MORE THAN TWO ENTITIES AND A
TWITTER CATEGORY ONLY TWO WOULD
BE ALLOWED TO SPEAK FOR TWO
MINUTES EACH. FOR MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. IF YOU'D LIKE
TO RESPOND TO A ROLL CALL, ASK
QUESTION AND PROVIDE A COMMENT.
PLEASE BE SURE YOU ACTIVATE YOUR
MICROPHONE AND SPEAK INTO YOUR
MICROPHONE. FOR AUTHORS WHO
BUILDS UP TODAY, AUTHORS. EACH
MEMBER PRESENTED TODAY WILL HAVE
AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE AN
OPENING STATEMENT AND A CLOSING
STATEMENT AS PREVIOUSLY STATED.
YOU'RE TO LEAD WITNESSES WERE
EACH HAVE TWO MINUTES TO BRIDE
TESTIMONY. AND IN TODAY'S ACTUAL
HEARING OF BILLS THE FOLLOWING
HAVE BEEN EXCUSED FROM TODAY'S
COMMITTEE HEARING.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S IRWIN, WHO HAS
BEEN REPLACED FOR TODAY'S
HEARING BY SIMILAR DON ADDIS.
AND A SIMILAR ASSAILANT WHO IS
BEEN EXCUSED. I ALSO WANT TO
NOTE THAT FOR FILE ITEM NUMBER
FIVE SOMEWHERE BUILT 1575. BY
SIMILAR IRWIN WILL BE PRESENTED
TODAY BY SOMEWHERE EVEN LOW. AND
I'D LIKE TO WELCOME ALL THE
COMMITTEE MEMBERS STANDING
WARMUP. IT'S ALL THE NEW MEMBERS
OF THIS COMMITTEE AGAIN
SOMEWHERE. BOERNER HORVATH CELIA
, SUMMER JACKSON AND SUMMER
SEARCHING. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AT
THIS TIME, MADAM SECRETARY,
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. FOUR. HERE
ARE HERE. YEAH. CHAN. A SILLY.
JACKSON. LOW. CURRENCY.
QUIRK-SILVA. THANK YOU SO MUCH
COLLEAGUES. WE HAVE QUORUM AT
THIS TIME. WE'LL START WITH ITEM
NUMBER FOUR. A SIMILAR BILL 1160
BY SUMMER, PACHECO PACHECO.
WELCOME.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MR CHAIR AND
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE TODAY I
PRESENT ASSEMBLY BILL 1160. I
WANT TO START BY THANKING THE
COMMITTEE STAFF FOR ALL THEIR
HARD WORK ON THIS BILL TODAY.
AND I WILL BE ACCEPTING THE
COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS. THE
AMENDMENTS REFLECT MONTHS OF
CONVERSATIONS WITH OPPOSITION
AND GOOD FAITH ATTEMPTS TO
MITIGATE THEIR CONCERNS AND
PROVIDES IMPORTANT CLARITY ON
THE BILLS INTENT TO PROTECT
STUDENTS FROM THE EDUCATIONAL
AND ECONOMIC HARMS ASSOCIATED
WITH INSTITUTIONAL DEBT. BILL
PROVIDES CLARITY ON THE
DEFINITION OF THE INSTITUTIONAL
DEBT AND CLARIFIES THAT THIS
BILL DOES NOT CANCEL
INSTITUTIONAL DEBT OR REQUIRE
INSTITUTIONS OF HIGHER EDUCATION
TO CANCEL INSTITUTIONAL DEBT.
CLARIFIES THAT THE BILL DOES NOT
REQUIRE SCHOOLS TO RE ENROLL
STUDENTS THAT HAVE VIOLATED CODE
OF CONDUCT. HONOR CODES OR OTHER
POLICIES THAT KEEP SCHOOLS AND
STUDENTS SAFE. ESTABLISHES
IMPORTANT SAFEGUARDS ON THE USE
OF THIRD PARTY DEBT COLLECTION
REQUIRING SCHOOLS TO WAIT 180
DAYS BEFORE. SUBJECTING.
STUDENTS TO COLLECTIONS AND
ENSURES THAT SCHOOLS ARE WORKING
DIRECTLY WITH STUDENTS TO HELP
THEM. GET BACK TO TRACK. GET
BACK ON TRACK. THE BILL ALSO
PROTECT STUDENTS FROM HAVING
NEGATIVE MARKS REPORTED ON THEIR
CREDIT REPORT DURING THIS TIME,
WHILE ALSO PROVIDING SCHOOLS
MORE TIME AND BUILDING OUT DATA
REPORTING SYSTEMS TO ENSURE THAT
THEY HAVE THE TIME RESOURCES AND
CAPACITY TO ADEQUATELY COLLECT
AND REPORT DATA ON INSTITUTIONAL
DEBT. AS YOU MAYBE AWARE, MUCH
HAS BEEN DONE ABOUT FEDERAL
STUDENT LOANS BUT CURRENTLY
ACROSS CALIFORNIA MORE THAN 3.9
MILLION BORROWERS OWE NEARLY 148
MILLION IN STUDENT LOAN DEBT AND
INSTITUTIONAL DEBTS HAVE
BALLOONED AFFECTING MORE THAN
750,000 LOW INCOME STUDENTS.
INSTITUTIONAL DEBT AS A DEFINED
BY DEAD OLD BY STUDENTS.
DIRECTLY TO THEIR SCHOOLS. WE
ARE HERE TO SHED LIGHT ON THIS
UNEXPECTED BARRIER TO STUDENTS
AND THE SOLUTIONS. I AM WORKING
ON TO ADDRESS THIS PROBLEM IN
THIS ASSEMBLY BILL 1160. WITH ME
TODAY IN SUPPORT OF 1160 IS
DOMINIQUE KWAN TRESSLER STUDENT.
UH CURRENT STUDENTS AT SAN JOSE
STATE UNIVERSITY AND SERVES AS
THE PRESIDENT OF THE CALIFORNIA
STATEMENT. STUDENTS UH, STUDENT
STATE STUDENT ASSOCIATION. WE
ALSO HAVE HERE WITH US PROFESSOR
CHARLIE, ASSOCIATE PROFESSOR OF
SOCIOLOGY. U C. MERCED. WE HAVE
A MOTION AND WE HAVE A SECOND.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. PLEASE. OH
HELLO, CHAIR AND MEMBERS. MY
NAME IS DOMINIC JUAN TRESSLER. I
AM A STUDENT AT SAN JOSE STATE
UNIVERSITY AND ALSO SERVED AS
THE PRESIDENT OF THE CALIFORNIA
STATE STUDENT ASSOCIATION. WHICH
REPRESENTS NEARLY HALF A MILLION
CSU STUDENTS. WE ARE. WE ARE
PROUD CO SPONSOR OF HB 1160.
INSTITUTIONAL DEBT IS LITTLE
KNOWN DEAD, BUT IT AFFECTS
THOUSANDS OF STUDENTS THROUGHOUT
CALIFORNIA. OFTEN THESE DEBTS
COME UP UNEXPECTEDLY FOR
STUDENTS WITHOUT AMPLE TIME FOR
THEM TO CORRECT THE ISSUE. WE
HEARD FROM ONE SEAT ONE STUDENT
THAT CSU MARITIME ACADEMY WHO
TOLD US THAT THE NIGHT BEFORE
REGISTRATION, THEIR FINANCIAL
AID CHANGED UNEXPECTEDLY, AND
THEY WERE ALERTED THAT THERE WAS
SUDDENLY A HOLD ON THEIR
REGISTRATION UNTIL THE NEW
BALANCE WAS PAID. IN THIS
INSTANCE, THE STUDENT WAS ABLE
TO PAY THE BALANCE, BUT MANY ARE
LESS LUCKY. WE HAVE HEARD FROM
NUMEROUS STUDENTS MOST RECENTLY
AS CSU EAST BEAR. WHO ARE FACING
ENROLLMENT HOLDS WHILE TRYING TO
FINISH THEIR LAST SEMESTER OF
COLLEGE. AFTER YEARS OF HARD
WORK, THEIR DREAMS SEEMED OUT OF
REACH. DURING MY FIRST SEMESTER,
I GOT DROPPED FROM ALL MY
CLASSES DUE TO NON PAYMENT, BUT
I WAS ABLE TO RE ENROLL ONCE I
PAID THE OUTSTANDING BALANCE.
ALL THE CLASSES I HAD SELECTED
WERE FULL AND I JUST SELECT NEW
ONES. I BRING THIS UP BECAUSE
THERE WERE CONCERNS RAISED BY
THE OPPOSITION REGARDING THIS,
UM EVERY REGARDING STUDENTS
UNDER THIS BILL, ESSENTIALLY
BECOMING FREE RIDERS. AND BEING
ABLE TO BYPASS TUITION. THIS WAS
NEVER THE INTENT OF OUR BILL AND
THE AMENDMENTS MAKE IT CLEAR
THAT CAMPUSES WILL CONTINUE TO
IMPLEMENT DROP FOR NONPAYMENT
POLICIES TO ENSURE STUDENTS PAY
TUITION FOR A CURRENT SEMESTER
OR QUARTER. OUR BILL SIMPLY
GIVES STUDENTS WITH
INSTITUTIONAL DEBT THE CHANCE TO
RE ENROLL SO THEY CAN KEEP
MAKING PROGRESS TOWARDS THEIR
DEGREE WHILE THEY WORK TO REPAY
AN INSTITUTIONAL DEBT FROM THE
PREVIOUS TERM AND ENSURE
STUDENTS ENSURE SCHOOLS
RECRUITING NECESSARY REVENUES.
THIS WAY. STUDENTS ARE NOT BEING
BLOCKED FROM GRADUATING AND
PURSUING THEIR DREAMS. IT'S ALSO
IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT
INSTITUTIONAL AID INSTITUTIONAL
DEBT DISPROPORTIONATELY AFFECTS
LOW INCOME STUDENTS. AT THE CSU.
NEARLY ONE THIRD OF
UNDERGRADUATES ARE THE FIRST IN
THEIR FAMILIES TO ATTEND
COLLEGE. NEARLY NEARLY HALF OF
CSU UNDERGRADUATES ALSO RECEIVED
A POWER. THE CSU PRIDES ITSELF
AS A LEADER ON SOCIAL MOBILITY,
BUT THIS CRITICAL MOBILITY IS
HAMPERED WHEN INSTITUTIONAL DEBT
FORCES THE STUDENTS DROP OUT AND
NOT COMPLETE THEIR DEGREE. 1160
BRINGS MUCH NEEDED TRANSPARENCY
ON INSTITUTIONAL DEBT, WHILE
ALSO EXTENDING CRITICAL CONSUMER
PROTECTIONS FOR A LARGE
CONSTITUENCY AND FUTURE OF
CALIFORNIA ARE STUDENTS. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR AND
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. I'M AN
ECONOMIC SOCIOLOGIST AND
PROFESSOR AT UC MERCED. WHERE I
CO FOUNDED THE HIGHER EDUCATION
RACE AND THE ECONOMY LAB. OUR
LAB CO AUTHORED THE CREDITOR
COLLEGES STUDY WITH THE STUDENT
LOAN LAW INITIATIVE OF UC IRVINE
LAW PROFESSOR DALIA COMENZÓ AND
BERKELEY LAW PROFESSOR JONATHAN
GLATER. OUR STUDY SHOWS THAT A B
1160 WILL HELP THOUSANDS OF
STUDENTS WITH INSTITUTIONAL
DEBTS TO COMPLETE THEIR
EDUCATION AND HELP CALIFORNIA'S
HIGHER EDUCATION SEGMENTS TO
INCREASE THE REVENUE THAT THEY
NEED TO SERVE STUDENTS.
INSTITUTIONAL DEBTS WORK
DIFFERENTLY THAN STUDENT LOAN
DEBTS, AND THEY TEND TO BE MORE
HARMFUL. WE ESTIMATE THAT OVER
300,000 STUDENTS INCUR THESE
DEBTS AT COMMUNITY COLLEGES, CSU
AND UC IN AN AVERAGE YEAR. MOST
STUDENTS IN CURRENCY TUCHEL
DEBTS WHEN THEY WITHDRAW FROM
SCHOOL IN THE MIDDLE OF AN
ACADEMIC TERM BECAUSE OF A
HEALTH OR ECONOMIC HARDSHIP.
SCHOOLS ARE THEN REQUIRED TO
RETURN PELL GRANTS AND STUDENT
LOAN AID TO THE DEPARTMENT OF
EDUCATION OF THE STUDENT
WITHDRAWS BEFORE 60% OF AN
ACADEMIC TERM HAS ELAPSED.
SCHOOLS AND COMMONLY CHARGED A
DEBT TO STUDENTS TO TRY TO
RECOVER THOSE FUNDS. AMONG OTHER
THINGS, A B 1160 WOULD PROHIBIT
SCHOOLS FROM USING REGISTRATION
HOLDS THAT BAR STUDENTS WITH
INSTITUTIONAL DEBTS FROM
ENROLLING AND SUBSEQUENT TERMS.
THESE REGISTRATION HOLDS HARM
BOTH STUDENTS AND SCHOOL REVENUE
BECAUSE ONLY AROUND 25% OF THESE
DEBTS ARE EVER PAID. SCHOOLS
WOULD ATTAIN REVENUE INCREASES
UNDER THIS POLICY. BY COLLECTING
MORE TUITION AND FEE REVENUE FOR
ENROLLING STUDENTS IN SUBSEQUENT
ACADEMIC TERMS. BY ALLOWING
STUDENTS TO COMPLETE THEIR
DEGREES. THIS WILL ALSO INCREASE
STUDENT'S ABILITY TO REPAY
DEBTS. SEVERAL COMMUNITY
COLLEGES SEE, SUS AND UCS HAVE
DEMONSTRATED SUCCESS WITH THIS
APPROACH. THE CSU SYSTEM
ACTUALLY REPORTED ON ITS WEBSITE
THAT SEVERAL CAMPUSES TOOK THESE
STEPS AND QUOTE THESE STEPS
INCLUDED REMOVING REGISTRATION
HOLDS ON STUDENTS WITH
OUTSTANDING DEBT. UH CONTRARY TO
SOME MISUNDERSTANDINGS, A B 1160
WILL HAVE NO ADVERSE EFFECTS ON
STUDENTS, PAYMENT OF TUITION OR
CREATE A LOOPHOLE FOR STUDENTS
TO AVOID PAYING TUITION. THAT'S
WHY EVEN THOUGH CSU HAS ALREADY
DONE THIS, IN SOME CASES, THEY
HAVEN'T SEEN A DECLINE IN
TUITION PAYMENT. AND THAT'S
BECAUSE, AS DOMINIC NOTED, A B
1160 LET'S SCHOOLS MAINTAIN DROP
FOR NON PAYMENT POLICIES BY
WHICH THEY CAN DROP STUDENTS AT
THE BEGINNING OF AN ACADEMIC
TERM. WHEN THEY DO NOT PAY
TUITION OR FEES FOR THAT SAME
TERM. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH YOU
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS?
THANK YOU SO MUCH ARE THERE
WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION IN THE
HEARING ROOM?
I'M SORRY. ARE THERE WITNESSES
AND SUPPORT IN THE HEARING ROOM?
GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIR MEMBERS. MY
NAME IS SARAH PIZZA HERE ON
BEHALF OF CO SPONSORS, YOUNG
INVINCIBLES STUDENT DEBT CRISIS
CENTER, CONSUMER REPORTS AND WE
ARE PROUD TO BE IN SUPPORT OF A
B 1160. HI KIMBERLY SANCHEZ WITH
NEXT IN CALIFORNIA, A PROUD
COSPONSOR AND IN SUPPORT OF THIS
BILL. GOOD AFTERNOON, HANNAH
DIVINE ON BEHALF OF THE CAL
STATE STUDENT ASSOCIATION, AS
WELL AS THE UNIVERSITY OF
CALIFORNIA STUDENT ASSOCIATION,
BOTH PROUD CO SPONSORS AND
STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU. HELLO
DANIEL PEARL ON BEHALF OF ASKED
ME, CALIFORNIA IN SUPPORT OF
THIS, BILL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
SO MUCH OTHER WITNESSES AND
OPPOSITION IN THE HEARING ROOM.
ALL RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON. SORRY
TO HAVE MY BACK TO SOME OF YOU.
GOOD AFTERNOON, AND MAGGIE WHITE
WITH THE CALIFORNIA STATE
UNIVERSITY. I'M HERE IN
RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION TO A B
1160 IN ITS CURRENT FORM. WE
UNDERSTAND AMENDMENTS ARE
FORTHCOMING. WE LOOK FORWARD TO
CONTINUING TO WORK WITH THE
AUTHOR'S OFFICE. WE ABSOLUTELY
WANT TO KEEP OUR STUDENTS
ENROLLED IN MAKING PROGRESS
TOWARD DEGREE. TWO OF THE MAIN
TENANTS OF OUR GRADUATION
INITIATIVE. 2025 ARE STUDENT
FINANCIAL SUPPORT AND REMOVING
ADMINISTRATIVE BARRIERS IN ORDER
TO HELP STUDENTS GRADUATE IN A
MORE TIMELY MANNER. IN RECENT
YEARS, WE'VE INCREASED OUR
SERVICES FOR STUDENTS TO HELP
THEM ACCESS A VARIETY OF
FINANCIAL SUPPORT, INCLUDING
CALIFORNIA'S APPLICATION
ASSISTANCE, RAPIDLY HOUSING AND
EMERGENCY GRANTS, AMONG OTHER
PROGRAMS. WE'VE ALSO REDUCED
ADMINISTRATIVE BARRIERS,
INCLUDING REMOVING CERTAIN FEES
THAT WERE DETERMINED TO BE AN
UNNECESSARY ROADBLOCK. AS A
PUBLIC INSTITUTION, TUITION AND
MANDATORY FEES MAKE UP ABOUT 40%
OF OUR OPERATING BUDGET. BECAUSE
OF THIS, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT
THAT WE DO HAVE MECHANISMS IN
PLACE TO COLLECT THOSE FEES THAT
SUPPORT ARE ESSENTIAL OPERATING
FUNCTIONS. ACROSS OUR CAMPUSES.
THERE ARE AN AVERAGE OF FIVE
OUTREACH ATTEMPTS THAT ARE MADE
THROUGH A VARIETY OF CHANNELS,
INCLUDING EMAIL, PHONE CALL AND
TEXT BEFORE BEGINNING THE
PROCESS OF SENDING A DEBT TO
COLLECTIONS. ARE SYSTEM WIDE
POLICY STATES THAT CAMPUSES MUST
INCLUDE CLEAR, TIMELY AND
ONGOING NOTIFICATIONS OF DUE
DATES AND ACCOUNT BALANCES TO
ANY STUDENT HOLDING A DEBT AND
ALL 23 OF OUR CAMPUSES OFFER IN
HOUSE PAYMENT PLANS TO WORK WITH
STUDENTS DIRECTLY ON REPAYMENT,
WHICH IS ALWAYS OUR PREFERRED
AVENUE. IN CLOSING. I'D LIKE TO
BE CLEAR THAT THIRD PARTY DEBT
COLLECTION OR TAX OFFSET OR
NEVER PLAN A FOR OUR CAMPUSES.
HOWEVER WE DO FEEL THAT
RETAINING THE ABILITY TO SEND
THE DEBT TO COLLECTIONS IS
IMPORTANT IN A SUBSET OF CASES
WHERE STUDENTS MAY NOT BE
WILLING TO WORK WITH US ON A
PAYMENT PLAN AND OR ARE NO
LONGER OUR STUDENT, IN WHICH
CASE WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY
INTERNAL LEVERS TO PULL TO BRING
THEM IN FOR A CONVERSATION WITH
THE CAMPUS. I APPRECIATE YOUR
TIME HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. GOOD
AFTERNOON CHAIR AND MEMBERS ALEX
GRAVES WITH THE REPRESENTING
PRICE OF 90 GASH FIRST DAY BACK
FOR EVERYONE. 90 PRIVATE,
NONPROFIT COLLEGES THROUGHOUT
THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, ALSO
HERE IN RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION,
UM, THE AMENDMENT LANGUAGE WE'VE
SEEN. I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT WE
APPRECIATE THE AMENDMENTS TO
ALLOW A PATHWAY FOR COLLECTIONS
WOULD CONCUR WITH WHAT MY
COLLEAGUE SAID REGARDING THAT
NOT BEING THE PREFERRED OPTION
OF INSTITUTIONS. AND I ALSO WANT
TO SAY THAT WE DO AGREE THAT
TRYING TO RESOLVE THE DEBT
BALANCES IN HOUSE THAT IS MORE
EFFECTIVE AND CERTAINLY THE
PREFERRED OPTION FOR ALL OF OUR
MEMBER INSTITUTIONS. UM SECONDLY
, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO CLARIFY
THAT FOR US AS PRIVATE ON
PROFITS, THE TYPES OF DEBTS THAT
WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT
DRIVE. OUR DEBT BALANCES FOR
STUDENTS IS NOT YOUR $5 PARKING
TICKET. IT'S NOT YOUR $10 LATE
LIBRARY BOOK FOR US. MOST OF OUR
INSTITUTIONS OFFER TUITION
PAYMENT PLANS. WHERE IF A
STUDENT OR FAMILY YOU CAN'T PAY,
YOU KNOW EIGHT OR $10,000
UPFRONT BEFORE THE START OF A
TERM WELL, SPREAD THOSE PAYMENTS
OUT OVER THE COURSE OF SEMESTER
TO MAKE IT MORE AFFORDABLE FOR
THAT FAMILY MORE ATTAINABLE. AND
WE DO FIND THAT OUR AVERAGE DEBT
BALANCE TENDS TO BE IN THAT 1 TO
$4000 RANGE, AND THAT DRIVES 80
TO 99% OF THE DEBT THAT WE SEE.
UM I WOULD LIKE TO RESPECTFULLY
DISAGREE THAT THIS BILL DOES NOT
PROHIBIT THE COLLECTION OF
TUITION AND FEES AS WE READ
66036 THAT SUBSECTION OF THE
BILL. IT DOES STATE THAT YOU CAN
DROP A STUDENT BY THE DROP FOR
NON PAYMENT DEADLINE, WHICH IS
GENERALLY VERY EARLY IN THE
ACADEMIC SEMESTER. UH BUT BOTH
BASED ON HOW WE READ THE BILL
AND OUR MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE
HAD WITH THE SPONSORS. IT IS OUR
UNDERSTANDING THAT IF A STUDENT
MISSES A TUITION PAYMENT PLAN
AFTER THAT POINT, WE CANNOT USE
THAT DROP FOR NON PAYMENT
DEADLINE IN THE SUBSEQUENT TERM
TO TRY AND RECOUP THAT DEBT AND
TO BE CLEAR WE ALSO WILL SEND
MULTIPLE COMMUNICATIONS AND
EMAILS AND TEXTS. WE ARE NOT
JUST IMMEDIATELY DEFAULTING TO
THESE OTHER PRACTICES THAT ARE
PROPOSED TO BE PROHIBITED IN
THIS BILL, BUT FOR A SUBSET OF
STUDENTS, WE DO FIND THAT THEY
ARE NON RESPONSIVE UNTIL WE
TRIED TO COMPEL THEM TO COME
TALK TO US WHETHER THERE'S BEEN
A LOSS OF INCOME BY A FAMILY
MEMBER, AND THEY NEED THEIR AID
REPACKAGED IF THEY JUST FORGOT.
WE DO TRY TO WORK WITH STUDENTS
HAPPY TO TALK MORE ABOUT THE
RETURN OF TITLE FOR FUNDS ISSUE
IN MORE DETAIL, BUT I DON'T
THINK I CAN COVER THAT. AND THE
SECONDS I HAVE REMAINING THANK
YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH THERE ANY
ADDITIONAL WITNESSES AND
OPPOSITION. MR CHAIR MEMBERS
SCOTT GOVERNOR BAPTIST
UNIVERSITY OF PHOENIX HERE IN
OPPOSITION. THANK YOU. MR
CHAIRMAN, MATT, BACK
REPRESENTING THE CALIFORNIA
ASSOCIATION OF PRIVATE
POSTSECONDARY SCHOOLS ALSO
OPPOSED. TIM LYNCH ON BEHALF OF
THE RECEIVABLES MANAGEMENT
ASSOCIATION INTERNATIONAL WERE
OPPOSED TO THE BILL IN PRINT,
BUT AS WE UNDERSTAND THE
AMENDMENTS, THEY WILL BE
REMOVING THE PROHIBITION ON THE
SALE OF DEBT. AND WITH THAT
AMENDMENT WILL BE REMOVING OUR
OPPOSITION. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. MELISSA CORTEZ, ON BEHALF
OF THE CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF
COLLECTORS WANT TO ALIGN MY
COMMENTS WITH THE PREVIOUS
SPEAKER. IT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING
THAT THE AMENDMENTS DO ALSO
REMOVE THE PROHIBITION ON DEBT
COLLECTION. UM WE WILL BE
REMOVING OUR OPPOSITION BUT
WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO WORK
WITH THE AUTHOR ON 180 DAY
TIMELINE. AFTERNOON CLIFF COST
ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
CREDITORS BAR ASSOCIATION. ALSO
IN LIKE TO ALIGN MY COMMENTS
WITH THE PREVIOUS TWO SPEAKERS.
WE WILL BE REMOVING OUR
OPPOSITION WANT TO KEEP WORKING
ON THE 180 DAYS, BUT VERY MUCH
APPRECIATE THE ASSEMBLY WOMAN
AND HER STAFF AND SPONSORS FOR
WORKING WITH US. THANK YOU. DEAN
RAFEAL WITH CAPITAL ADVOCACY
HERE ON BEHALF OF SAN JOAQUIN
VALLEY COLLEGE. WHERE'S AS WELL
AS CARRINGTON. COLLEGES
RESPECTFULLY OPPOSE. MR CHAIR
AND MEMBERS, JASON MURPHY ON
BEHALF OF THE UNIVERSITY OF
CALIFORNIA OFFICER PRESIDENT. WE
DO NOT HAVE A POSITION ON THIS
BILL. AT THIS TIME. HOWEVER I
WANT TO ECHO THE COMMENTS MADE
BY MY COLLEAGUES, THE TABLE WHO
ARE IN OPPOSITION. WE LOOK
FORWARD TO BEING IN TOUCH WITH
THE AUTHOR AS WE MOVE FORWARD ON
THE BILL, THANK YOU. THANK YOU
SO MUCH. THEY'RE TWEENERS IN THE
HEARING ROOM. GOOD AFTERNOON,
REMEMBERS CREEPING ON BEHALF OF
THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE LEAGUE OF
CALIFORNIA. WE'RE REPRESENTING
THE STATES 160 CAN BE COLLEGES.
WE DO NOT HAVE A FORMAL POSITION
ON THE BILL, BUT WE WANTED TO
ECHO THE CONCERNS RAISED BY THE
CSU AND THE AI CCU, AND WE'RE
LOOKING FORWARD TO REVIEWING THE
UPCOMING AMENDMENTS AND WEIGHING
IN A FURTHER THANK YOU. THANK
YOU SO MUCH COLLEAGUES ANY
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? SOMEWHERE
BURNER. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU
FOR THE AUTHOR FOR TRYING TO
WORK ON THE ISSUE WITH STUDENT
DEBT. IT'S A PROBLEM THAT
PLAGUES US ALL. UM I DON'T THINK
IT'S ESPECIALLY WHEN WE LOOK AT
ANY OF OUR PUBLIC INSTITUTIONS
OR COMMUNITY COLLEGES. IT'S NOT
THEIR FIRST OPTION TO EVER GO TO
DEBT COLLECTION. I KNOW MY FIRST
SEMESTER OF BERKELEY AT A
TRAGEDY HAPPENED TO ME AND I
NEED TO DROP A CLASS AND WENT TO
MY COUNSELOR. IT WAS AFTER THE
PATROL DEADLINE AND THEY
ACCOMMODATED ME. NOW THAT WAS
1991. SO A LITTLE BIT MONGO.
MAYBE THAT'S NOT OUR PROBLEM. IS
THAT FOR ME? THAT WAS FOR ME. UM
MY UNDERSTANDING. THERE WAS A
LOT OF THIS WAS PANDEMIC
RELATED. DURING THE PANDEMIC. A
LOT OF PEOPLE DROPPED OUT. A LOT
OF PEOPLE COULDN'T FINISH
CLASSES, MODES SHIFTED. IS THIS
BELT ONLY RELATED TO THE
PANDEMIC? OR IS IT ONGOING? YEAH
IT'S ONGOING AND THIS ISN'T A
PROBLEM THAT WAS SPECIFIC TO THE
PANDEMIC. THESE TYPES OF AND I
THINK MY COLLEAGUES FROM THE
OPPOSITION WOULD WOULD ECHO THIS
INSTITUTIONAL DEBTS ARE INCURRED
ONGOING LEE BY HUNDREDS OF
THOUSANDS OF CALIFORNIA STUDENTS
EVERY YEAR. UM MY OTHER
QUESTIONS. IT SEEMS THAT THIS
BILL COULD IMPACT SMALLER
INSTITUTIONS MORE THAN LARGER
INSTITUTIONS IF THEY ARE
DEPENDENT ON THEIR OPERATIONAL
COSTS ARE BASED ON STUDENT
PAYMENTS TO PAY HIM BACK THESE
DEBTS. YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE
THINGS I THINK IT'S LIKE WE WANT
TO MAKE A PATH FOR DEBT
COLLECTION ISN'T THE FIRST LINE
BUT LIKE IF STUDENT LEAVES, AND
AS THE OPPOSITION SAID, THERE'S
NO RECOURSE TO GET THEM TO
NEGOTIATE TO PAY OFF THE DEBT.
WHAT ARE WE DOING? YOU KNOW, DO
WE? YOU KNOW, AND AS FAR
INSTITUTION MIGHT HAVE LESS
LEEWAY TO DEAL WITH THAT. HOW
WOULD YOU SAY YOU'RE A BILL
ACCOUNTS FOR THAT? HISTORICALLY
PRIVATE INSTITUTIONS IF ACTUALLY
HAD LOWER RATES OF INSTITUTIONAL
DEBTS, UM AND I THINK THAT HAS
TO DO WITH THEIR FEE STRUCTURE.
ADDITIONALLY THEY STILL WITH THE
AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN
DISCUSSED WOULD BE ABLE TO PLACE
DEBTS WITH DEBT COLLECTORS, UM,
AND WOULD STILL BE ABLE TO SELL
DEBTS TO DEBT COLLECTORS, SO
THERE ARE STILL THOSE OPTIONS
AVAILABLE FOR INSTITUTIONS TO
COLLECT ON THAT, BUT AS IT IS,
UH, STUDENTS MOSTLY DON'T REPAY
THESE DEBTS BECAUSE THEY CAN'T
THEY DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES.
THREE. PAY THESE DEBTS. THAT'S
WHY ON AVERAGE, ONLY ABOUT 25%
OF OUTSTANDING INSTITUTIONAL
DEBTS ARE EVER REPAID AT MY
INSTITUTION, UC MERCED, WE WRITE
OFF ABOUT 75% OF THESE DEBTS.
EVERY YEAR FROM FROM PRIOR
YEARS. BUT THAT HAS TO AFFECT AN
INSTITUTION'S BOTTOM LINE WHEN
THEY'RE WRITING OFF DEBTS. NO
AND THE OTHER THING IS, YOU
ACTUALLY WILL BRING IN MORE
REVENUE IF YOU ENROLL THE
STUDENTS IN A SUBSEQUENT TERM,
SO THE AMOUNT OF THAT TYPICALLY
IS LESS THAN WHAT THE TUITION UM
, AND FEES FOR SUBSEQUENT TERM
WOULD BE SO IT'S ACTUALLY
FINANCIALLY MORE ADVANTAGEOUS
FOR AN INSTITUTION TO ENROLL
SINCE THAT'S WHY CSU SEVERAL CSU
CAMPUSES HAVE NCSU WAS NOTED,
THIS ONLINE HAS WAIVED, UM
ENROLLMENT HOLDS FOR THE
STUDENTS. SEVERAL COMMUNITY
COLLEGES THE CITY, SAN FRANCISCO
CITY COLLEGE SYSTEM, LIKE TAHOE
COMMUNITY COLLEGE SYSTEM HAVE
HAD A LOT OF SUCCESS AND RE
ENROLLING THESE STUDENTS AFTER
THEY REMOVED THE REGISTRATION
HALTS, BUT YOU CAN STILL SEEK TO
COLLECT ON THE DEBTS THROUGH
CONVENTIONAL TERMS THROUGH
CONVENTIONAL METHODS, INCLUDING
PLACEMENT WITH DEBT COLLECTORS.
RIGHT? I THINK SOME OF THOSE
ARGUMENTS GO AGAINST EACH OTHER.
I DON'T KNOW IF THE OPPOSITION
HAS ANYTHING WHERE THEY WANT TO
WEIGH IN. I'M YOU KNOW, I'M
INCLINED TO SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE
I THINK THE INTENTION IS GOOD. I
JUST THINK I LIKE THE COMMITTEE
AMENDMENTS. IT JUST SEEMS LIKE
THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE TWEAKING
FOR THE CASES. WHERE YOU KNOW
YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET THE STUDENT
BACK AT THE TABLE LIKE THEY HAVE
LEFT THE INSTITUTION. THERE ARE
NO LONGER THERE. LIKE THEY
SHOULDN'T HAVE TO WAIT TO
COLLECT THAT IF THE STUDENTS NOT
COMING BACK TO THE TABLE. AND IF
THEY CAN'T PAY AND THE ONE
SEMESTER I DON'T KNOW WHAT MAKES
US THINK THAT THEY CAN PAY IN
THE FOG. THAT DOESN'T THAT SEEMS
WELL, FOR ONE REASON IS THAT
TYPICALLY THESE STUDENTS RECEIVE
FEDERAL FINANCIAL AID. UM AND
OFTEN STATE FINANCIAL AID. SO IF
YOU ENROLL A STUDENT WHO IS LOW
INCOME AND THEY USE A PELL GRANT
AWARD, AND THEY USE THIS FEDERAL
STUDENT LOAN TO PAY, YOU'RE
GOING TO BRING IN MORE REVENUE.
ENROLLING THEM IN A SUBSEQUENT
TERM THAN YOU WOULD BY SEEKING
TO COLLECT ON A DEBT BECAUSE
THEY WITHDREW IN THE MIDDLE OF A
TERM BECAUSE OF IT. HEALTH OR
ECONOMIC HARDSHIP. YEAH IF I MAY
JUST JUST OUT OF COMMENT SINCE
YOU ASKED IF WE'D LIKE TO
ANYTHING TO YOUR QUESTION. UM
AGAIN. I WANT TO REITERATE THAT
OUR INSTITUTIONS ARE
INSTITUTIONAL STAFF THAT I'VE
SPOKEN WITHIN FINANCIAL
SERVICES. FINANCIAL AID ON THIS
QUESTION AGAIN. WE HAVE 100%
AGREE THAT WORKING IN HOUSE WITH
THE STUDENT IS A BETTER OPTION,
BOTH FOR THE STUDENT. UH AND FOR
THE INSTITUTION AGAIN DEBT
COLLECTION FOR US IS A LAST GASP
EFFORT, ESPECIALLY IN INSTANCES
OF AS YOU HAVE NOTED WHERE THE
STUDENT HAS LEFT EITHER BECAUSE
THEY'VE GRADUATED OR THEY HAVE
WITHDRAWN AND THEY'RE NOT
RETURNING. UM I THINK THERE'S A
BIT OF A FALSE DICHOTOMY BEING
PRESENTED IN THE ARGUMENTS MADE
IN THAT IT'S EITHER THE
INSTITUTION IS SENDING
EVERYTHING TO COLLECTIONS
BECAUSE THEY'RE STOPPING THAT
STUDENT'S PROGRESS OR WHATNOT.
OR THEY'RE JUST FIGURING OUT IN
HOUSE AND ROLLING AND THERE'S NO
KIND OF IN BETWEEN. I WOULD SAY
THAT OUR INSTITUTIONS BEND OVER
BACKWARDS IN MANY CASES TO TRY
AND KEEP THAT STUDENT MOVING
FORWARD. I MEAN, THERE ARE
NUMEROUS INDICATORS THAT ARE
REPORTED IN IPADS THAT ARE TIED
TO OUR FEDERAL AID ELIGIBILITY
INSTITUTIONS THAT ENCOURAGE US
TO TRY AND ENSURE AND
INCENTIVIZE US TO ENSURE THAT
STUDENT PROGRESSES TOWARDS THEIR
DEGREE IN HIS HIGHWAY MANNER
THAT THEY GRADUATE BECAUSE THE
WORST THING WE CAN DO AS AN
INSTITUTION IS HAVE A STUDENT
NOT GRADUATE, BUT LEAVE WITH
DAD. I MEAN, THAT'S WHERE YOU
FIND THERE'S HIGHER RATES OF
DEFAULT ON THOSE LOANS AND OTHER
THINGS RIGHT? AND I WOULD ALSO
JUST ADD THAT I KNOW THAT IN THE
PRIVATE NONPROFIT SECTOR, I
THINK PEOPLE ASSUME THAT I THINK
THERE ARE A FEW VERY WELL
RESOURCED INSTITUTIONS IN OUR
SECTOR, AND PEOPLE ASSUME THAT
THAT IS A SIMILAR RESOURCE.
PROPOSITION FOR MOST OF OUR
INSTITUTIONS WHEN THE REALITY IS
MOST OF OUR COLLEGES,
UNIVERSITIES OR REGIONALLY,
SERVING OF MODEST MEANS ARE
REALLY TUITION DEPENDENT. AND SO
, AS I NOTED, WITH OUR
RESPECTFUL DISAGREEMENT ABOUT
THAT THIS DOES NOT PROHIBIT THE
COLLECTION OF TUITION AND FEES.
THAT'S REALLY WHERE WE HAVE
SERIOUS PAUSE. EVEN IN THE
DRAFTED AMENDMENTS, BECAUSE IN
OUR VIEW, IT IS GOING TO PUSH US
MORE IN THE DIRECTION OF DEBT
COLLECTION BECAUSE WE'RE NOT
GOING TO HAVE THOSE OTHER
MECHANISMS. FOR THAT SUBSET OF
STUDENTS WHO ARE NON RESPONSIVE
TO OUR ATTEMPTS TO WORK WITH
THEM AS THEY'RE MOVING PROGRAMS.
SO I'M INCLINED TO SUPPORT BUT I
HOPE THE AUTHOR I KNOW SHE
ALWAYS WORKS IN GOOD FAITH WITH
EVERYBODY. UM, SO I HOPE YOU
WOULD CONSIDER THAT THINGS OF
THE SMALLER INSTITUTION AND
MAYBE MAYBE THINKING ABOUT ARE
THEIR THEIR PATHS OF THIS HAS TO
BE EXHAUSTED FIRST BEFORE THAT
VERSUS JUST PUTTING OUT 180 DAYS
OR ANYTHING. I DON'T KNOW. MY
FIRST TIME IN THE COMMITTEE, SO
I'M NOT SURE IF I SHOULD EVEN BE
SAYING ANY OF THIS, BUT I'LL
SUPPORT TODAY, BUT I DO HAVE
SOME CONCERNS. THANK YOU. I
APPRECIATE IT AND WE'VE WE'VE
HAD MULTIPLE CONVERSATIONS AND
WE WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE
MULTIPLE CONVERSATIONS AS WELL.
I HAVE AN OPEN DOOR POLICY, SO
I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO FURTHER
CONVERSATIONS. THANK YOU SO MUCH
FOR SOMEWHERE. BOERNER HORVATH
èC. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM
FIRST OF ALL, WANT TO THANK OUR
WONDERFUL AUTHOR FOR VERY
IMPORTANT BILL TO PROVIDE
CONSUMER PROTECTIONS FOR OUR
STUDENTS. I WILL BE SUPPORTING
THE BILL. BUT I WANTED TO, UH
AH, YOU KNOW, SUPPORT SOME OF
THE CONCERNS RAISED BY OUR
UNIVERSITIES, ESPECIALLY ARE OUR
PUBLIC UNIVERSITIES. WELL, I ALL
OF OUR HIGHER EDUCATION
INSTITUTIONS IN RECOGNIZING THAT
40% OF THE SEA SUS OPERATING
BUDGET COMES FROM UM, STUDENT
TUITION. AND FEES. UM YOUR
LETTER OF OPPOSITION. I JUST
WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
AMENDMENTS, YOU KNOW, ARE
CHANGING THE STATEMENT OF THAT
THAT IT'S REMOVED YOUR YOUR
LETTER OF OPPOSITION STATES THAT
THAT THIS BILL WOULD REMOVE ALL
REASONABLE METHODS TO COLLECT
OUTSTANDING STUDENT DEBTS. THAT
IS NO LONGER THE CASE. I DO
BELIEVE THAT'S BEING CHANGED BY
THE AMENDMENTS WILL WANT TO SEE
THOSE FULLY IN PRINT, BUT I
BELIEVE IT'S REMOVING SOME OF
OUR CONCERNS AROUND THAT, OKAY.
AND SO AND I AM HEARING. YOU
KNOW, BOTH OF YOU TALKED ABOUT
HOW, UH, THAT COLLECTION IS NOT
YOUR YOUR PREFERRED. METHOD BUT
THAT IS GOING TO BE WHAT YOU'RE
GOING TO HAVE TO RESORT TO IN
ORDER TO, UH, COLLECT THE
OUTSTANDING DEBTS. IT IS
CONSIDERED OUR OUR LAST RESORT
WHEN ALL OTHER METHODS OF
COMMUNICATION HAVE FAILED WITH
THAT PARTICULAR STUDENTS, OKAY?
AND SO I GUESS, IN A WAY. I
MEAN, GIVEN THE REALITIES OF, UH
NOT ONLY. YOU KNOW THE WORLD
THAT WE LIVE IN IN TERMS OF
PEOPLE, NOT HAVING TO BE HELD
RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR DEATHS
THAT WE MAY BE EXCHANGING, UH,
CONSUMER PROTECTIONS FOR
STUDENTS WITH PERHAPS THE
INCREASE IN UH, TARNISHED OR
RUINED. UM. CREDIT HISTORIES FOR
STUDENTS THAT MAY FOLLOW THE
DAD. I WONDER IF THE PROPONENTS
HIT MIGHT HAVE ANY COMMENTS
ABOUT THAT. THAT WOULD BE
RUINING THEIR CREDIT HISTORY.
YEAH I MEAN, IF THEY HAVE A DEBT
COLLECTION ACTION REFLECTED ON
THEIR CREDIT HISTORY. UM IF. IF
THE UNIVERSITY IS GOING TO HAVE
TO RESORT TO DEBT COLLECTION
PRACTICES, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE
THEY'RE BEING DENIED THESE OTHER
PRACTICES OF YOU KNOW TO COLLECT
THAT THAT WE MAY SEE AN INCREASE
IN TERMS OF UH, TARNISHED TO OUR
BLEMISHED. UH CREDIT HISTORIES
FOR THESE STUDENTS. WHAT
TYPICALLY USING A REGISTRATION
HOLD, FOR EXAMPLE, DOES NOT
ACTUALLY LEAD TO EXIST, SET A
SUCCESSFUL COLLECTION THAT LEADS
TO A STUDENT LEAVING SCHOOL OR
ACTUALLY OFTEN GOING TO ANOTHER
INSTITUTION. UH, WHICH WON'T
HAVE THEY'RE DEAD ON RECORD AND
WON'T HAVE A REGISTRATION HOLD.
THERE ARE PROTECTIONS IN THE
BILL RELATED TO, UH STUDENTS.
CREDIT HISTORIES. UM, I'M NOT
THE LEAD EXPERT ON THAT PART OF
THE BILL, SO I WON'T SPEAK TO
THE DETAILS ON THAT. BUT, UM. UH
BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING,
EXTENDING CONSUMER PROTECTIONS
IN THE BILL WHILE PERMITTING
COLLECTIONS AND, UH, PROHIBITING
REGISTRATION HOLDS. WE THINK
WE'VE GOT EVERY REASON TO
BELIEVE IT'S GONNA IMPROVE
STUDENT'S ABILITY TO RETURN TO
SCHOOL. COMPLETE THEIR DEGREE
AND IN DOING SO HAVE MORE
RESOURCES BETTER CHANCE ON THE
JOB MARKET. TO PAY OFF THEIR
DEBTS, WHICH SCHOOLS CAN
CONTINUE TO SEEK COLLECTIONS ON
THROUGH COLLECTIONS WITH THROUGH
PLACEMENTS WITH COLLECTION. NO,
I GET THAT PART, BUT UH UM. EVEN
IF YOU. PROHIBIT THE ABILITY TO
PUT A REGISTRATION HOLD. THEY
STILL HAVE THE DEBT, RIGHT? I
MEAN THERE. THIS THIS IS NOT
RELIEVING ANY OF THEIR DEBT
CORRECT. THEY START THE DEBT
THAT THEY OWED TO THE SCHOOL
WHILE THEY CONTINUE TO WORK ON
THEIR DEGREE, AND THE SCHOOL CAN
STILL USE THE THEIR RANGE OF
POLICIES TO TRY TO RESOLVE THE
DEBT AS IT IS SCHOOLS TYPICALLY
DON'T RESOLVE MOST OF THESE
DEBTS. UM AND THAT IS GOING TO.
I ASSUME THAT'S GOING TO BE
REFLECTED ON THEIR CREDIT
HISTORY. MY UNDERSTANDING AND
AGAIN. I'M NOT THE SO DOLLY C¢M
INEZ, WHO'S THE U. C. IRVINE LAW
PROFESSOR WHO IS A CO AUTHOR OF
OUR REPORTERS TO KIND OF LEAD
EXPERT AS THE SHE ALSO LEAVES
THE DEBT COLLECTION LAB. SHE'S
THE LEAD EXPERT. BUT MY
UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE ARE
PROTECTIONS FOR CREDIT HISTORY
REPORTING, BUT THOSE ARE SOME OF
THE DETAILS THAT ARE GETTING
WORKED OUT ABOUT WHAT ARE THE
PERMISSIBLE PRACTICES FOR THE
DEBT COLLECTORS WHILE THEY SEEK
TO COLLECTION BUT PLACING A DEBT
IN COLLECTIONS DOES NOT
NECESSARILY MEAN THAT THE DEBT
WILL BE REPORTED TO A CREDIT
BUREAU. THOSE ARE TWO SEPARATE
THINGS. UM SO IT'S NOT. IT IS
NOT NECESSARILY THE CASE THAT A
STUDENT'S DEBT WHEN, WHEN PLACED
WITH A DEBT COLLECTOR. WOULD BE
ALSO REPORTED TO THE CREDIT
BUREAU. OKAY? UM, I MEAN, I
YEAH, I AGAIN WHILE I SUPPORT
THE STUDENTS BEING ABLE TO.
CONTINUE WITH THEIR EDUCATION IF
THEY'RE ABLE TO SOMEHOW BE ABLE
TO REGROUP INTO STICK WITH THEIR
EDUCATIONAL ASPIRATIONS, AND
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WANT TO
SUPPORT, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE
THAT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT
DEBT RELIEF HERE. YEAH, NO.
OKAY, DEFINITELY WOULD NOT BE
THAT RELIEF. AND LAST QUESTION
LIKE FOR CSU, I WOULD IMAGINE
THAT IF THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT
IMPACT IN TERMS OF LOST REVENUES
, THE 40% OF YOUR REVENUES THAT
YOU COUNT ON FOR YOUR BUDGET.
THAT THAT MAY BE A COST PRESSURE
FOR, FOR EXAMPLE, FUTURE TUITION
INCREASES. ABSOLUTELY AND I
THINK WE ARE HOPEFUL WITH THE
AMENDMENTS. WHEN WE SEE THEM IN
PRINTED. SOME OF THIS WILL BE
ADDRESSED. I THINK WE STILL HAVE
QUESTIONS ON EXACTLY HOW TUITION
WILL INTERACT WITH BEING
INSTITUTIONAL DEBT OR NOT, AND
WHEN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH
COLLECTIONS ON THAT OR OTHER
MECHANISMS, BUT CERTAINLY IT'S A
BIG CONCERN FOR US. THIS IS
NEARLY HALF OF OUR BUDGET OF
PAYING OUR FACULTY AND STAFF AND
KEEPING THE LIGHTS ON. ALL
RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO, UM
REMEMBER ANY OTHER FURTHER
COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? THANK YOU
SO MUCH. WAS AUTHOR WHISTLE
CLOSE, PLEASE. YES UH, I WANT TO
THANK ALL OF YOU FOR THIS
OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT. UH MY
BILL. WE'VE WE'VE BEEN HAVING
ONGOING CONVERSATIONS DURING THE
FALL ALL THE WAY UP TO DECEMBER.
AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE WITH
THE CONVERSATIONS. UM, TO
POSSIBLY PERFECT THIS BILL EVEN
MORE. SO FOR TODAY. I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR I
VOTE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE
AUTHOR FOR BRINGING THIS BILL
FORWARD AND TAKING TIME TO WORK
ON IT DURING THE INTERIM AND TO
THE COMMITTEE STAFF AS WELL FOR
ALL THEIR HARD WORK AND EFFORTS
ON THIS BELIEVE THAT CONCERNS
HAVE BEEN RAISED BY THE SCHOOLS
DO FOR MERIT FURTHER
CONVERSATIONS AND WORK AND I
KNOW THAT'S IN PROCESS RIGHT
NOW. SO GLAD TO GET THOSE
CONVERSATIONS HAPPENING IN THE
BILLS, I THINK IS ON THE RIGHT
PATH. AND IN THE SPIRIT OF THE
BILL, I LOOK FORWARD TO
SUPPORTING THE BILL. TODAY AS
YOU WORK THROUGH THE SOME OF THE
CHALLENGES THE MEMBERS WITH
THAT, UM, ROLL CALL, PLEASE. THE
MOST VILE ITEM NUMBER FIVE A B
1160. THE MOTION IS DUE PASS AS
AMENDED TO THE APPROPRIATIONS
COMMITTEE BOMB HIGH HIGH TALK.
TALK? NO ARAMBULA. BURNER. AYE
CHAN. CHANCE, NO DAILY. ADDIS I.
JACKSON. LOW. I LO I MURATSUCHI
GI QUIRK-SILVA. THAT ADAM. IT
CURRENTLY HAS FIVE EYES TO NOSE
WILL KEEP THE ITEM OPEN FOR
ADDITIONAL MEMBERS OF SIGN ON.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
NEXT STEP. I LIKE TO DO ITEM
NUMBER ONE. AUTHORED BY
SOMEWHERE CHRIS HOLDEN SOMEWHERE
BUILD 359 WELCOME. WE HAVE A
MOTION IN THE SECOND ON THE
SUBWAY BUILD 359. WELCOME MR
HOLDEN. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR AND
MEMBERS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO
PRESENT A SIMILAR BILL 359 PSI
KAP 2.0, OR PHASE ONE OF DUAL
ENROLLMENT REFORM. I WANT TO
BEGIN BY THINKING THE CHAIR AND
THE COMMITTEE AND STAFF ARE
HOLDING THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE
ON DUAL ENROLLMENT IN NOVEMBER
OF LAST YEAR. MAYBE 359 IS PART
OF PART ONE OF THE POLICY
RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE
PRESENTED AT THAT HEARING ON
WAYS TO ENSURE THE SUCCESS OF
SEA CAPTAIN DOLAN ROMAN PROGRAMS
THROUGHOUT THE STATE. ACCORDING
TO THE PUBLIC POLICY INSTITUTE
OF CALIFORNIA, SEA CAP, STUDENTS
ARE DOING BETTER THAN THEIR
PEERS WHO DID NOT PARTICIPATE IN
DUAL ENROLLMENT CAP STUDENTS
OBTAIN ASSOCIATE DEGREES OR
CERTIFICATES AT HIGHER RATES.
THIS BILL BUILDS ON GREAT WORK
SEE CAP HAS ACCOMPLISHED BY
ELIMINATING BARRIERS FACED BY
UNDER REPRESENTED STUDENTS,
LOCAL EDUCATION AGENCIES. AND
COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICTS.
WHAT THIS BILL DOES A B 359
PROVIDES CLARIFYING CHANGES
ESTABLISHES A FRAMEWORK TO
INTEGRATE PATHWAYS INTO EVERY C
CAP PARTNERSHIP. SPECIFICALLY A
B 359 DOES THE FOLLOWING
STREAMLINES STUDENT ENROLMENT
AND PARTICIPATION IN C CAP BY
REMOVING THE PRINCIPAL'S
RECOMMENDATION AND REQUIRING
STUDENTS AND COMPLETE ONE
APPLICATION. ALLOW SCHOOLS TO
PARTNER WITH COMMUNITY COLLEGES
OUTSIDE THEIR SERVICE AREA OF
CERTAIN CONDITIONS ARE MET.
PROVIDES SCHOOLS WITH THE
OPPORTUNITY TO TEACH COURSES
ONLINE WITH APPROPRIATE STUDENT
SUPPORT IN PLACE AND INSURERS.
STUDENTS RECEIVE HIGH SCHOOL AND
COLLEGE CREDIT FOR THE COURSES
THEY COMPLETE ON THEIR UNIQUE
PATHWAY. WITH ME TO TESTIFY AND
SUPPORT OUR PETER BIRDSALL,
PRESIDENT OF EDUCATION ADVOCATES
AND LEGISLATIVE ADVOCATE FOR THE
CALIFORNIA HIGH SCHOOL DISTRICT
COALITION. AND MELISSA BARDO.
ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR OF POLICY AND
GOVERNMENT RELATIONS FOR
EDUCATION. TRUST WEST. I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOU. THANK
YOU SO MUCH WELCOME. THANK YOU.
PETER WURTZEL, REPRESENTING
CALIFORNIA HIGH SCHOOL COALITION
COALITION, CONSISTS OF 55 SCHOOL
DISTRICTS ACROSS THE STATE THAT
WANT TO FOCUS ON ISSUES THAT
IMPACT HIGH SCHOOLS AND HIGH
SCHOOL STUDENTS. ONE OF OUR TOP
PRIORITIES IS TO EXPAND THE
OPPORTUNITIES FOR STUDENTS TO
PRECIPITATE AND DUAL ENROLLMENT
PROGRAMS AND PARTICULARLY THE C
CAP PROGRAM BECAUSE IT'S BEEN SO
EFFECTIVE. UM THIS BILL DOES A
LOT TO REMOVE THE ADMINISTRATIVE
AND GOVERNANCE BARRIERS OF
SOMETIMES MADE THOSE
PARTNERSHIPS DIFFICULT, SO WE'RE
IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL, AND
THERE'S YOUR SUPPORT. ALSO,
THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH
WELCOME. GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIR
FONG AND MEMBERS OF THE ASSEMBLY
HIGHER EDUCATION COMMITTEE.
MELISSA BARDO, ASSOCIATE
DIRECTOR OF POLICY AND
GOVERNMENT RELATIONS FOR THE
EDUCATION TRUST WEST, AND WHERE
RESEARCH AND ADVOCACY
ORGANIZATION COMMITTED TO
ADVANCING POLICIES AND PRACTICES
THAT DISMANTLE RACIAL AND
ECONOMIC BARRIERS IN
CALIFORNIA'S EDUCATION SYSTEM.
EDUCATION LEADERS AND
POLICYMAKERS HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY
TO REIMAGINE. HOW DO ENROLLMENT
CAN TRANSFORM OUR SYSTEMS AND
STUDENTS LIVE AND BE A POWERFUL
LOVER FOR EQUITY AND STUDENT
ATTAINMENT OF POST SECONDARY
EDUCATION. AND OUR LANDMARK
REPORT JUMPSTART, WHICH ANALYZES
INVOLVEMENT DATA AT CALIFORNIA
COMMUNITY COLLEGES. WE FOUND
THAT ELIA'S AND COMMUNITY
COLLEGES ARE NOT YET EQUITABLY
SERVING BLACK NATIVE AND LATIN
STUDENTS THROUGH DAWN WALL MAN
THEREFORE, STRATEGIES TO
INCREASE ONE WOMAN ACCESS AND
PARTICIPATION MUST ENTER THE
NEEDS OF THESE STUDENTS AND
FAMILIES. COLLEGE AND CAREER
ACCESS PATHWAYS OR SEACAT
PARTNERSHIPS, IN PARTICULAR AIM
TO PROVIDE EARLY EXPOSURE TO
COLLEGE COURSES FOR STUDENTS WHO
MAY NOT BE COLLEGE BOUND OR WHO
ARE UNDERREPRESENTED IN HIGHER
EDUCATION. MAYBE 359 WILL
ELIMINATE OUTDATED BARRIER THAT
PREVENTED FROM ACCESSING COLLEGE
COURSEWORK FROM THE CAP BUT ALSO
MAKING IT EASIER FOR ELIA'S AND
COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT TO
DEVELOP PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT
AND EXPAND COURSE OFFERINGS.
PARTICULARLY EXCITED ABOUT THE
STUDENT FRIENDLY AMENDMENTS THAT
ELIMINATE THE REQUIREMENT FOR A
PRINCIPAL RECOMMENDATION,
CLARIFY STUDENTS THAT CLARIFY
THAT STUDENTS SHOULD ONLY SUBMIT
ONE APPLICATION FOR THE DURATION
OF THEIR PARTICIPATION AND SEE
CAP AND WORK TOWARDS ENSURING
THAT STUDENTS RECEIVED CREDIT
FROM BOTH THEIR HIGH SCHOOL AND
COLLEGE FOR COMPLETING COLLEGE
LEVEL COURSES. THESE CHANGES
WILL GO A LONG WAY TOWARDS
ENSURING STUDENTS DO NOT
ENCOUNTER UNNECESSARY BARRIER TO
SEE CAP AND MAXIMIZE THE
BENEFITS OF THEIR PARTICIPATION.
WE ALSO APPRECIATE THAT A B 359
PROHIBITS COLLEGES FROM OFFERING
PRE TRANSFER COURSEWORK THROUGH
C CAP, AS THE COMMITTEE ANALYSIS
INDICATES HELMETED INTENDED TO
ENHANCE STUDENTS ACCESS TO
COLLEGE LEVEL COURSEWORK,
WHEREAS REMEDIAL EDUCATION CAN
DELAY THAT, PARTICULARLY FOR
STUDENTS OF COLOR. THESE CHANGES
WON'T SURE THAT THE CAT
PARTNERSHIPS ARE ALIGNED AND
ENGAGED WITH STATEWIDE EFFORTS
TO PAY THAT REMEDIAL EDUCATION
AND INSTEAD FOCUS ON EVIDENCE
BASED STRATEGIES THAT PROMOTE
EQUITABLE PLACEMENT AND STUDENT
SUCCESS IN COLLEGE GATEWAY
COURSES. I'D LIKE TO THANK
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S HOLDEN FOR
BEING A STEADFAST CHAMPION OF
DUAL ENROLLMENT. UM AND SINCE
ITS INCEPTION IN 2015 COMMITTED
TO GETTING IT RIGHT. WE GREATLY
APPRECIATE YOUR DILIGENCE AND
WORKING WITH STAKEHOLDERS
ADVOCATES AND COMMITTEE STAFF TO
ADDRESS THE UNIQUE NEEDS AND
CHALLENGES. UM THAT DOOR NORMAL
STUDENTS FACE. SO WITH THAT, I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR MY VOTE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. ARE THERE
WITNESSES AND SUPPORT IN THE
HEARING ROOM? GOOD AFTERNOON.
I'M DOMINIQUE TONY WITH VOICE IN
STRONG SUPPORT OF A B 359. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ARE
THERE, WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION
IN THE HEARING ROOM? ARE THERE
TWEENERS IN THE HEARING ROOM?
SHE REMEMBERS AUSTIN WEBSTER
WITH W STRATEGIES ON BEHALF OF
THE ACADEMIC SENATE FOR
CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY COLLEGES
FACULTY ASSOCIATION WITH
CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY COLLEGES
AND THE CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY
COLLEGE ASSOCIATION FOR
OCCUPATIONAL EDUCATION. WE HAVE
NOT HAD A CHANCE TO TAKE A
FORMAL POSITION ON THE MOST
RECENT AMENDMENTS THAT WE
APPRECIATE THE AUTHORS
COMMITMENT TO DUAL ENROLLMENT
AND LOOK FORWARD AWAY INTO THANK
YOU SO MUCH. COLLEAGUES ANY
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS SOMEWHERE
MORE RESEARCHING. THANK YOU, UM
MR HOLDEN FOR CONTINUE TO BE A
CHAMPION OF DUAL ENROLLMENT. UM
I KNOW THAT THE PRIORITY OF
DOLAN ROMAN IS TO INCREASE, UH,
THE NUMBERS OF STUDENTS OF COLOR
STUDENTS THAT DON'T COME FROM
TRADITIONAL COLLEGE BOUND.
BACKGROUNDS AND SO, UM, I REALLY
APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS, BUT I
ALSO HAVE A LITTLE SELF INTEREST
BY MY DAUGHTER IS LOOKING AT
TAKING ADVANTAGE OF DUAL
ENROLLMENT. UH AND SO IT'S MY
UNDERSTANDING THAT YOUR BILL IS
OPENING IT TO OR ENSURING THAT
THAT ALL STUDENTS BUT
PRIORITIZING UNDERREPRESENTED
STUDENTS TO PARTICIPATE IN THE
IN THE SEACAT PROGRAMS. IS THAT
CORRECT? CORRECT? OKAY AND SO
AH! YEAH I THINK YOU KNOW,
EXPANDING OPPORTUNITIES FOR HIGH
SCHOOL STUDENTS TO NOT JUST BE
LIMITED TO WHAT IS OFFERED AT
THEIR HIGH SCHOOLS. UH BUT TO BE
ABLE TO, UM, GO BEYOND THAT. I
KNOW THAT SOME OF SOME STUDENTS
THAT I'VE MET. THEY NOT ONLY
WANT TO TAKE DOLAN ROMAN COURSES
, UM AT THEIR, UH, THEIR
COMMUNITY COLLEGE FOR WHICH THEY
HAVE AN AGREEMENT OR PARTNERSHIP
WITH. BUT EVEN OTHER COMMUNITY
COLLEGES. NOTHING IN THIS BILL
WILL RESTRICT THE ABILITY OF
STUDENTS WHO EXPLORE
OPPORTUNITIES OUTSIDE OF
BASICALLY TO BE ABLE TO TAKE A
COURSE OF COMMUNITY COLLEGES
OTHER THAN THOSE FOR WHICH THEY
HAVE THE PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT.
YOU KNOW, I THINK I THINK I'M
READING YOU IN THAT IT'S NOT TO
LIMIT IS TO CREATE GREATER
OPPORTUNITIES AND CERTAINLY. FOR
WHEN THE ORIGINAL BILL WAS
PASSED, IT WAS REALLY NARROW TO
THE COMMUNITY COLLEGES AND THE
DISTRICT AND RECOGNIZING THAT
AND SOME OF THE RURAL AREAS OF
THE STATE. IT'S A LITTLE HARDER
TO AROUND, SO CREATING A LITTLE
BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY SO THAT
MORE STUDENTS COULD PARTICIPATE
IN THE FULLNESS OF THE PROGRAM
IS THE ULTIMATE GOAL, OKAY? UH
HUH. AND I KNOW THAT I
PARTICIPATED IN A RECENT
EDUCATION CONFERENCE WHERE THESE
THESE TWO PARTICULAR ISSUES, YOU
KNOW THAT THE ONE APPLICATION
FOR THE C CAP PROGRAM AND THE
DUAL CREDIT AUTOMATIC DUAL
CREDIT FOR BOTH HIGH SCHOOL AND
COMMUNITY COLLEGES. THOSE WERE
SPECIFIC FIXES THAT WERE
IDENTIFIED AND YOUR BILL IS A
SOLUTION TO THAT. YES, ALL
RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. BE
HAPPY TO SUPPORT THIS BILL.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S ANY FURTHER
COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS. CNN. MR.
HOLDEN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE?
WELL FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD I
WANT TO THANK THE CHAIR AND THE
COMMITTEE AGAIN FOR CONVENING.
THE HEARING THIS FALL LAST FALL,
WHICH GAVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO
DELVE DEEPER INTO THE, UH,
LIMITATIONS THAT EXIST AND HOW
WE CAN GROW THIS PROGRAM IN A
WAY THAT EXPANDS FOR THOSE WHO
ARE CERTAINLY IN A POSITION TO
NEED TO KNOW THAT THEY CAN DO
COLLEGE LEVEL COURSEWORK WHILE
IN HIGH SCHOOL. REMOVING
BARRIERS THAT WOULD STIGMATIZE
THEIR ABILITY TO CONTINUE ON BUT
ALSO FOR THOSE WHO ARE, UH,
CERTAINLY, UH POSITIONED TO SEE
THEMSELVES FINISHED HIGH SCHOOL
WITH AN A DEGREE AND A HIGH
SCHOOL DIPLOMA IS AN EXCITING
PROSPECT FOR ANY YOUNG PERSON
AND CERTAINLY FOR A PARENT WHO
HAS TO CONTEMPLATE THE COST OF
COLLEGE AND WHAT THAT WILL BE.
SO UM, I WANT TO THANK THE
COMMITTEE. I THINK THAT AS WE'VE
DESCRIBED IN OUR PRESENTATION,
THIS IS PART ONE OF VARIETY OF
CHANGES THAT WILL NEED TO HAPPEN
AND I SAID I'VE SHARED WITH THE
CHAIR. THIS IS A BILL THAT WILL
CONTINUE TO KEEP GIVING. UH AND
MEETING THE NEEDS OF THE OF OUR
YOUNG PEOPLE AND THEIR
OPPORTUNITY FOR GROWTH AND
EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES, AND
THE BILL LAST YEAR WAS CREATING
OPPORTUNITY FOR COLLEGE BEFORE
COURT. STUDENTS. UM DACA
STUDENTS IN THE PAST, SO IT IS A
BILL THAT IS RECOGNIZING
WHEREVER THERE'S A BARRIER TO
HAVING FULL ACCESS TO THIS
PROGRAM. WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING TO
TAKE DOWN THAT BARRIER AND
CREATE THE PROPER PATHWAYS FOR
YOUNG PEOPLE TO HAVE ALL THE
OPPORTUNITIES FOR EXCELLING INTO
THE FUTURE AND GOING ON TO
COLLEGE AND EVEN FOR THOSE WHO
DO NOT. BUT CAN YOU CAN
PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAM AND
FIND OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEIR
VOCATIONAL ADVANCEMENT. THAT'S
EXCITING AS WELL. SO WE'LL ALL
OF THAT I WOULD RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR YOUR VOTE. THANK YOU SO MUCH
FOR SOMEWHERE, HOLDING FOR YOUR
LEADERSHIP AND EFFORTS AROUND C
CAP AND DOING WRONG PROGRESS FOR
THE PAST MANY YEARS AND FOR THE
LEADERSHIP AROUND THE OVERSIGHT
HERE, AND NOW WE HAVE THIS PAST
FALL REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR
PARTICIPATION THERE ON YOUR
LEADERSHIP. AND REALLY AS WE
LOOK TO EXPAND DUEL AND RUN
PROGRAMS HERE, AND CALIFORNIA
HAS MENTIONED THE ANALYSIS.
MAYBE 359 BUILDS UPON THE MANY
YEARS OF EFFORTS TO EXPAND AND
INCREASE DUAL ENROLLMENT
PARTICIPATION. FROST STUDENTS IN
CALIFORNIA. SO I LOOK FORWARD TO
WORKING WITH YOU, MR HOLDEN AND
EDUCATION CHAIR SUMMER MARSCHZ
INTO COLLEAGUES TO CONTINUE THE
EFFORTS HERE TO EXPAND
OPPORTUNITIES. TODAY WE CONTINUE
TO CRAFT POLICY THAT WILL
PROVIDE FURTHER. OPPORTUNITIES
FOR DOING AND ROMAN FOR EVERY
STUDENT IN STATE, REGARDLESS OF
WHERE THEY ATTEND HIGH SCHOOL
AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SUPPORTING
THE BILL HERE TODAY. BUT THAT
MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL. WHILE ITEM ONE A B 359.
THE MOTION IS DUE PAST THE
EDUCATION COMMITTEE. PHªN I TAW
I ARAMBULA BURNER II. CHAN CHAN.
I SAY LEE ADDIS I. JACKSON. LOW.
LOW TIMER. SUKI SUKI, I
QUIRK-SILVA. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THAT BILL HAS SEVEN EYES. NO
NOSE WILL KEEP THE ROLE OPEN FOR
ADDITIONAL MEMBERS OF SIGN ON,
AND IT'S OUT AS A COUNCIL. THANK
YOU SO MUCH. NEXT UP, WE'LL BE
DOING ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
FRIEDMAN'S BILL ASSEMBLY BILL
810. I DON'T NUMBER TWO WELCOME.
SOME OF THEM ARE FRIEDMAN
SECOND. FOR THE MOTION AND A
SECOND. THANK YOU. GOOD
AFTERNOON CHAIR AND MEMBERS. I
WANT TO THANK YOUR STAFF. FIRST
OF ALL IN YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR
HARD WORK OVER THE PAST FEW
YEARS ON THIS ISSUE, SOME OF YOU
MAY KNOW IN 2018. IT WAS MY
HONOR TO CHAIR THE JOINT RULES
SUBCOMMITTEE ON SEXUAL
HARASSMENT, PREVENTION AND
RESPONSE DURING THOSE HEARINGS,
AND WE HAD ABOUT SIX HEARINGS WE
HEARD FROM EXPERTS ACROSS THE
SPECTRUM ABOUT BEST PRACTICES
AND PREVENTING HARASSMENT. AND
WE TOOK STEPS TO INCREASE
TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY
RIGHT HERE OF OUR OWN CAPITAL
COMMUNITY, BUT IT'S PAST DUE
TIME FOR SIMILAR PROTECTIONS FOR
STAFF AND STUDENTS AT OUR
COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES. MAYBE
810 IS AMENDED, BUILDS UPON
EXISTING BEST PRACTICES
ESTABLISHED BY UC DAVIS BY
CODIFYING THEIR EMPLOYEE VERDICT
CERTIFICATION PROCESS PROCESS
FOR PUBLIC AND PRIVATE
UNIVERSITIES. THIS BILL PROVIDES
AN ADDITIONAL LAYER OF
PROTECTION FOR THE CAMPUS
COMMUNITY BY PROVIDING ANOTHER
TOOL FOR HUMAN RESOURCE OFFICERS
TO ENGAGE WITH PREVIOUS
EMPLOYERS TO ASCERTAIN WHETHER
THE APPLICANT HAS SUSTAINED
ALLEGATIONS OF MISCONDUCT WHILE
EMPLOYED BY A PREVIOUS EMPLOYER.
NOW UNDER CURRENT LAW, COLLEGES
DO DO BACKGROUND CHECKS, BUT
UNFORTUNATELY, BACKGROUND CHECKS
DO NOT CATCH INCIDENCES OR
ACTIONS OF MISCONDUCT OR SEXUAL
HARASSMENT. AND THIS HAS OPENED
THE DOOR TO THE COMMON PRACTICE
ACROSS HIGHER EDUCATION
INSTITUTIONS OF PASSING THE
HARASSER IN BOTH ACADEMIC AND
ATHLETIC SPACES, ACCORDING TO A
WHITE PAPER DONE BY THE NATIONAL
ACADEMIC, ACADEMIC ACADEMICS
ACTION COLLABORATION ON
PREVENTING SEXUAL HARASSMENT AND
HIGHER EDUCATION. THE TERM
REFERS TO INSTANCES WHERE
FACULTY MEMBERS FOUND
RESPONSIBLE. FOR SEXUAL
HARASSMENT, QUIETLY RESIGN AND
SEEK EMPLOYMENT AT ANOTHER
INSTITUTION WITHOUT NOTIFYING
THEIR NEW EMPLOYER OF PAST
MISCONDUCT. FOR EXAMPLE, IN 2022
AND ED SOURCE ARTICLE CHRONICLED
THE STORY OF A CSU BASEBALL
COACH WHO WAS FOUND TO HAVE
SEXUALLY AND RACIALLY HARASSED
PLAYERS AND STAFF HAD RESIGNED
FROM THE UNIVERSITY BUT WAS
STILL ABLE TO SERVE AS A
VOLUNTEER FOR COMMUNITY COLLEGE
TEAM. BY REINFORCING MORE
ACCOUNTABILITY IN THE HIRING
PROCESS. MAYBE 810 AIMS TO
REDUCE THE PASSING OF THE
HARASSER FROM CAMPUS TO CAMPUS
TO PROMOTE A MORE SAFE AND
EQUITABLE ENVIRONMENT FOR CAMPUS
STAFF AND THE STUDENTS. WHOEVER
IS WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO
PROTECT. TESTIFYING AND SUPPORT
THIS AFTERNOON IS KATE ROGERS
FROM CHEN UP AND RUN RAP FROM
THE CALIFORNIA FACULTY
ASSOCIATION. THERE IS AT THIS
TIME NO REGISTERED OPPOSITION TO
THIS BILL. THANK YOU SO MUCH
WELCOME. GOOD AFTERNOON,
CHAIRMAN FONG AND MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE. MY NAME IS KATE
ROGERS AND I SERVE AS THE
DIRECTOR OF POLICY FOR
GENERATION UP, AND I'M ALSO
HAPPY TO BE A CONSTITUENT OF
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S FRIEDMAN.
GENERAL IS AN ENTIRELY STUDENT
LED EDUCATIONAL ADVOCACY
ORGANIZATION, FOCUSING ON
ADVANCING EQUITY IN THE
LEGISLATIVE PROCESS. I AM
HONORED TO BE HERE TODAY TO
REPRESENT CHEN UP IN SUPPORT OF
ASSEMBLY BILL 810 AS A PROUD
JOINT SPONSOR OF A B 810 CHEN UP
SEEKS YOUR SUPPORT IN THE FIGHT
AGAINST SEXUAL HARASSMENT ON
COLLEGE CAMPUSES BY CODIFYING
SAFEGUARDS IN THE HIGHER
EDUCATION HIRING PRACTICES.
MAYBE A 10 PROTECT STUDENTS AND
FACULTY AGAINST DISCRIMINATION
AND ACADEMIC, EXTRACURRICULAR
AND ATHLETIC ENVIRONMENTS.
SPECIFICALLY AS THE MEMBER
STATED, THE BILL REQUIRES THE
CALIFORNIA STATE UNIVERSITY AND
THE CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY
COLLEGES AND REQUEST THAT THE
UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA AND
PRIVATE INSTITUTIONS OF HIGHER
EDUCATION, INCLUDING MANDATORY
INFORMATION RELEASE FORM AND
THEIR APPLICATION PAPERWORK. THE
FORM GRANTS PERSPECTIVE, HIRING
CAMPUSES PERMISSION TO REQUEST
RECORDS FROM AN APPLICANTS.
PREVIOUS EMPLOYERS REGARDING ANY
SUBSTANTIATED ALLEGATIONS OF
MISCONDUCT. MAYBE A TURN ADDS AN
ADDITIONAL LAYER OF PROTECTION
THAT ASSISTS IN PREVENTING
EDUCATORS, ADMINISTRATORS AND
COACHES THAT HAVE BEEN
TERMINATED FROM PREVIOUS
EMPLOYMENT FOR VIOLATION OF
UNIVERSITY POLICY. FROM SIMPLY
JUST MOVING TO ANOTHER
INSTITUTION OF HIGHER EDUCATION.
AS THE MEMBER STATED, THIS
SITUATION HAS BECOME SO COMMON
THAT IS REFERRED TO AS PASSING
THE HARASSER, ACCORDING TO THE
AMERICAN MEDICAL ASSOCIATION.
INDIVIDUALS THAT EXPERIENCE
SEXUAL HARASSMENT CAN SUFFER
FROM A WIDE RANGE OF LONG TERM
PHYSICAL AND PSYCHOLOGICAL
EFFECTS, INCLUDING INCREASED
SYMPTOMS OF DEPRESSION, ANXIETY
AND POOR SLEEP. IN THE SHORT
TERM HARASSMENT DIRECTED AT A
STUDENT CAN HAVE ACADEMIC,
SOCIAL AND EMOTIONAL
CONSEQUENCES. MAYBE A 10 TAKES A
CRUCIAL STEP TOWARDS PREVENTING
HARASSMENT BEFORE IT OCCURS BY
EMPOWERING COLLEGES AND
UNIVERSITIES TO PROTECT THEIR
STUDENT BODY ON BEHALF OF THE
4000 ASSOCIATED MEMBERS OF GEN.
UP I STRONGLY URGE YOU TO STAND
WITH CALIFORNIA STUDENTS AND
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR I VOTE
ON A B ATTEND TODAY. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. WELCOME
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. RON RAP
LEGISLATIVE DIRECTOR FOR THE.
LEGISLATIVE DIRECTOR FOR THE
CALIFORNIA FACULTY ASSOCIATION,
AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, THE
CALIFORNIA FACULTY ASSOCIATION
REPRESENTS OVER 29,000 FACULTY,
INCLUDING TENURE, TRACK
PROFESSORS, LECTURES, LIBRARIANS
, COUNSELORS AND COACHES WERE
ALL 23 CAMPUSES OF THE
CALIFORNIA STATE UNIVERSITY
SYSTEM. THE CF CF A IS IN
SUPPORT OF A B 810 AND BELIEVES
THAT THIS BILL WANTS AN ACTED
WILL HELP TO ENSURE THAT OUR
YOUNG ADULTS ARE SAFE WITHIN OUR
HIGHER EDUCATION SYSTEM BY
PROVIDING GREATER ACCOUNTABILITY
AND TRANSPARENCY IN HIRING
PRACTICES. MAYBE 810 WILL NOT
ONLY KEEP OUR YOUNG ADULTS SAFER
, BUT IT WILL ALSO HELP TO
ELIMINATE THE PRACTICE OF
PASSING THE HARASSER FROM ONE
UNIVERSITY TO THE NEXT PRACTICE.
THAT HAPPENS FAR TOO OFTEN. THE
CF A BELIEVES THIS LEGISLATION
AS AN IMPORTANT STEP IN THE
RIGHT DIRECTION AND HAS
COMMITTED TO WORKING WITH THE
LEGISLATURE TO PASS ADDITIONAL
LEGISLATION TO ENSURE THE SAFETY
OF HER YOUNG ADULTS ON OUR
COLLEGE CAMPUSES. WE APPLAUD THE
AUTHOR FOR TAKING A LEADERSHIP
ROLE ON THIS ISSUE AND
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR I
VOTE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO
MUCH. ARE THERE WITNESSES AND
SUPPORT IN THE HEARING ROOM?
OTHER WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION
IN THE HEARING ROOM. OTHER
TWEENERS IN THE HEARING ROOM.
COMMITTEE MEMBERS, COLLEAGUES
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS CNN.
SOMEWHERE. FRIEDMAN WOULD YOU
LIKE TO CLOSE, PLEASE? I JUST
WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT
TODAY. IT'S WAY PAST TIME THAT
WE DEAL WITH THIS ISSUE THAT'S
PLAGUING OUR CAMPUSES. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
SUMMER. FRIEDMAN FOR WORKING
CLOSELY WITH OUR COMMITTEE STAFF
TO CRAFT LANGUAGE ON THIS VERY,
VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE HAS
MENTIONED THE ANALYSIS THAT
SOMEBODY HIGHER EDUCATION
COMMITTEE AND SENATE EDUCATION
COMMITTEE ARE PUTTING TOGETHER A
REPORT WITH RECOMMENDATIONS ON
HOW THE STATE CAN BEST ADDRESS
SEXUAL HARASSMENT AND SEXUAL
VIOLENCE IN COLLEGE AND
UNIVERSITY CAMPUSES. I
APPRECIATE THE AUTHORS
WILLINGNESS TO CONTINUE
CONVERSATIONS TO ENSURE THE
LANGUAGE OF ASSEMBLY BILL EIGHT,
AN ALLIANCE WITH THE
RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE REPORT.
AND AS MENTIONED EARLIER, THE
ESTABLISHING STRONGER EMPLOYMENT
VERIFICATION PROCEDURES TO
ENSURING THE PASSING OF A
HARASSER IS NOT A COMMON HIGHER
EDUCATION PRACTICE IS A
NECESSARY STEP TOWARDS ENSURING
OUR CAMPUSES ARE FREE FROM
DISCRIMINATION AND HARASSMENT.
AND I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT THE
MEASURE HERE TODAY. THANK YOU SO
MUCH. THAT MADAM SECRETARY.
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. FILE ITEM
TO A B 810. THE MOTION IS DUE
PASS TO THE APPROPRIATIONS
COMMITTEE. PHªN I TAR TALK. I
ARAMBULA BURNER. BURNER I CHAN
CHAN I DAILY. ADD US AT US. I
JACKSON LOW HØI IMMERSE UCI DIÆN
QUIRK-SILVA. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THAT ITEM HAS SIX VOTES IT IS
OUT WILL KEEP THE ITEM OPEN FOR
ADDITIONAL MEMBERS TO ADD ON.
THANK YOU SOMEWHERE. NEXT UP. WE
WILL HAVE ITEM NUMBER FIVE.
AUTHORED BY SIMILAR IRWIN TODAY
WILL BE PRESENTED BY A SUMMER
EVAN LOW WELCOME. YEAH. VERY
PASSIONATE BILL. WITH EMOTION IN
A SECOND. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD.
WELCOME THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR
CHAIR AND COLLEAGUES FOR
ALLOWING ME TO PRESENT ASSEMBLY
BILL 1575 TODAY ON BEHALF OF
ASSEMBLYWOMAN IRWIN. THIS BILL,
WHICH OF COURSE, SEEKS TO
PROVIDE A BETTER SYSTEM OF
SUPPORT FOR STUDENTS WHO ARE
INVOLVED IN ADMINISTRATIVE
PROCEEDING AT THEIR COLLEGE OR
UNIVERSITY. THE MOTIVATION FOR
THIS BILL ORIGINATED FROM ONE OF
THE AUTHORS ASSEMBLY WHEN
IRWIN'S CONSTITUENTS THE MAYOR
WAS A STANFORD STUDENT ATHLETE
WHO SUICIDE WAS PRECIPITATED BY
A THREATENING NOTICE OF A
STUDENT CODE OF CONDUCT
PROCEEDING SOMEONE WHEN IRWIN
ALSO BELIEVES THAT ALLOWING A
STUDENT TO SELECT AN ADVISOR WHO
MAY ALSO BE A CONFIDENTIAL
ADVOCATE TO ASSIST THEM THROUGH
THIS PROCEEDING WILL PROVIDE
CONTINUOUS SUPPORT THROUGH WHAT
MAY BE THE MOST CHALLENGING
MOMENT IN THEIR TIME WITH ME TO
TESTIFY AND SUPPORT OF THIS BILL
ARE GINA AND STEVE MAYOR. THE
PARENTS OF K¾T. AND THE
ORGANIZERS OF KATIE'S SAFE AND I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR OUR VOTE
AND APPRECIATE YOUR ATTENTION TO
LISTENING TO TWO DEDICATED
LOVING PARENTS. THANK YOU SO
MUCH. WELCOME. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. OKAY WHERE'S STEVEN? GINA
MEYER. AND WE'RE CAGES, PARENTS
AND THANK YOU FOR HAVING US
TODAY REALLY APPRECIATE IT. K¾T
WAS A STUDENT IN AN R A AT
STANFORD UNIVERSITY. AND FROM
HER EARLIEST DAYS. K¾T WASN'T
ALL IN HUMAN BEING. SHE WAS SELF
DRIVEN. HIGH ACHIEVING.
PASSIONATE AND HAD A RADIANT
PERSONALITY. K¾T DIED BY SUICIDE
IN HER DORM ROOM AT STANFORD.
THE FOLLOWING IS INTO PUT HER ON
A PEDESTAL BUT TO RATHER BREAK A
STIGMA. THAT'S SUICIDE CAN CAN
CAN OCCUR WITH ANYONE, OKAY? SHE
WAS A SENIOR, THREE MONTHS SHY
OF GRADUATION. AND AWAITING
ACCEPTANCE TO STANFORD LAW
SCHOOL. SHE WAS A CAPTAIN ON THE
STANFORD WOMEN'S SOCCER TEAM AND
NC DOUBLE A CHAMPION WITH THAT
SQUAD IN 2019, AND SHE HAD MANY
WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITIES AHEAD OF
HER THAT SHE WAS SO EXCITED
ABOUT. MOST OF THEM PREDICATED
ON BEING A GRADUATE OF STANFORD
UNIVERSITY. SHE WAS A DREAM OF A
DAUGHTER AND SISTER. LOVING
BRILLIANT AND KIND, AND WE
BELIEVE HER STORY LIVES ON
BECAUSE KATIE COULD HAVE BEEN
ANYBODY'S DAUGHTER. OKAY, BUT
SHE WAS OURS. UNBEKNOWNST TO US,
DO YOU KNOW? AND I K¾T GOT
CAUGHT UP IN A DISCIPLINARY
ACTION FOR SPILLING COFFEE ON
FOOTBALL PLAYER. WHO HAD
ALLEGEDLY SEXUALLY ASSAULTED ONE
OF KATIE'S TEAMMATES.
TECHNICALLY A MINOR AT THE TIME.
AND AS FAR AS WE UNDERSTAND IT,
THE FOOTBALL PLAYER RECEIVED NO
CONSEQUENCES FROM THE SCHOOL FOR
HIS ACTIONS. WHEREAS KATY WAS
PULLED INTO A SIX MONTH LONG
DISCIPLINARY PROCESS AND
INVESTIGATION. ON THE NIGHT OF
HER DEATH, K¾T RECEIVED A FIVE
PAGE, SINGLE SPACED EMAILED
CHARGE LETTER FILLED WITH
LEGALESE THAT NOT ONLY
THREATENED TO WITHHOLD HER
DEGREE BUT OUTRIGHT REMOVAL FROM
THE UNIVERSITY. EVERYTHING SHE
HAD EVER WORKED FOR. COULD NOW
BE TAKEN AWAY FROM HER JUST
THREE MONTHS SHY OF GRADUATION.
THIS EMAIL CAME AFTER OVER THREE
MONTHS OF NO CONTACT FROM THAT
OFFICE, AND WE HAVE SINCE
LEARNED K¾T THOUGHT THE WHOLE
THING WAS OVER. AND WHY WOULDN'T
SHE? NOTHING HAPPENED WITH THE
FOOTBALL PLAYER. FOR SEXUAL
ASSAULT ON A MINOR. SO WHY WOULD
ANYTHING HAPPEN FOR HER TO HER
FOR SPILLING COFFEE? AND THE
EMAIL CAME AT NIGHT AT THE LAST
POSSIBLE MOMENT OF A SIX MONTH
STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS. K¾T
SUFFERED WHAT EXPERTS CALL AN
ACUTE STRESS REACTION. THAT'S
WHEN AN OTHERWISE FLOURISHING
MEMBER OF SOCIETY HAS SOMETHING
GO UNEXPECTEDLY SIDEWAYS IN
THEIR LIFE, AND THEY CAN'T SEE
THEIR WAY OUT OF IT. IN THAT
MOMENT, IT'S BEEN EXPLAINED LIKE
LOOKING THROUGH A STRAW FEELING
HOPELESS AND SCARED IN A
SPECIFIC SITUATION. THE NEWS OF
KATIE'S PASSING SHATTERED US TO
THE CORE. AND THE PAIN WAS
LITERALLY EXCRUCIATING. K¾T WAS
THE LAST PERSON IF YOU KNEW HER,
ASK ANYBODY WHO KNOWS KATIE
MEIER. SHE WOULD BE THE LAST
PERSON ON EARTH ANYONE WOULD
EVER THINK THIS WOULD HAPPEN. SO
GINA AND I DECIDED TO TURN OUR
PAIN INTO PURPOSE AND WORK TO
ACHIEVE THE GOAL OF NO OTHER
COLLEGE STUDENTS, THEIR FAMILY,
FRIENDS AND CAMPUS COMMUNITY
EVER GOING THROUGH SOMETHING
LIKE THIS TRAGEDY AGAIN. SO
WE'VE CREATED OUR FOUNDATION OF
K¾T SAVE AND BEEN WORKING ON
THIS BILL A B 1575. DR BRIAN
HAINLINE OF THE CHIEF MEDICAL
OFFICER BELIEVES THIS IDEA. THIS
CONCEPT IS A FRONT AND SAFETY
NET FOR OUR YOUNG PEOPLE GETS
OUT AHEAD OF IT. AND GINA'S
GONNA SPEAK NOW ABOUT HOW THIS
CONCEPT WOULD HAVE HELPED KATIE
AND WILL CERTAINLY HELP OUR
YOUNG PEOPLE ON CAMPUSES GOING
FORWARD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I
THANKS FOR HAVING US TODAY. UM
SHORTLY AFTER KATIE'S DEATH,
STEPHEN, I SAID, HOW DID WE NOT
KNOW THAT SHE WAS INVOLVED IN
THIS DISCIPLINARY ACTION? HOW
DID HER SISTER'S NOT? NO FRIENDS
NOT KNOW? WELL K¾T KEPT THIS
VERY CLOSE TO HER CHEST. SHE WAS
PROBABLY A BIT EMBARRASSED AND
ASHAMED AND WAS HOPING IT WOULD
BE SETTLED OR BLOW OVER QUICKLY
BECAUSE OF HIPPA AND FERPA LAWS.
UNLESS SHE CONFIDES IN US. THERE
IS ZERO NOTIFICATION TO PARENTS
OR GUARDIANS OF SUCH MATTERS. WE
BELIEVE SHE FELT VERY ALONE AND
UNSUPPORTED THROUGHOUT THIS
DISCIPLINARY PROCESS. HERE'S A
STUDENT WHO'S NEVER BEEN IN
TROUBLE BEFORE, LET ALONE EVEN A
DETENTION FROM, YOU KNOW, WAY
BACK IN MIDDLE SCHOOL OR HIGH
SCHOOL. UM AND YOU ALSO HAVE A
VERY YOUNG ADULT WITH AS WITH
ALL OF OUR COLLEGE STUDENTS, 18
TO 25 YEARS OLD WITH VERY LITTLE
LIFE EXPERIENCE. AND WHOSE BRAIN
SPECIFICALLY THE PREFRONTAL
CORTEX IS NOT FULLY DEVELOPED
YET, AND THAT IS JUST SCIENCE.
SO NO MATTER HOW SMART AND
INDEPENDENT. YOU ARE. IN VERY
CHALLENGING OR STRESSFUL
SITUATIONS. THEY TEND TO THINK
MORE WITH THEIR MIDDLE BRAIN,
WHICH CAN BE MORE EMOTIONAL,
IMPULSIVE AND IRRATIONAL. IN
DECISION MAKING, WE BELIEVE HAD
THIS BILL BEEN IN PLACE AT HER
UNIVERSITY, SHE WOULD HAVE HAD A
TRAINED CONFIDENTIAL ADVOCATE
FROM THE FROM DAY ONE, AND THAT
PERSON WOULD HAVE BEEN A BRIDGE
OR LIAISON WITH THAT
DISCIPLINARY OFFICE. QUESTIONS
THAT WERE CONFUSING OR LEFT
UNANSWERED THE LENGTH OF TIME.
UM THAT SHE WAS TOO SCARED TO
ASK, SHE WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO
TALK WITH HER ADVOCATE SOMEONE
WHO HAVE BEEN ABLE TO WALK
THROUGH THIS PROCESS WITH HER.
AND THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE
GUIDANCE COUNSELING AND
REASSURANCE, AND, MOST LIKELY,
THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN RESOLVED
MUCH QUICKER AND IN PERSON
INSTEAD OF AFTER HOURS IN THE
LATE EVENING OF THE SIX MONTH
STATUE OF LIMITATIONS, THERE
WERE A VERY COLD, HEARTLESS
EMAIL THAT ARRIVED THE NIGHT SHE
TOOK HER LIFE. WE SURMISE
IMPULSIVELY IN A PANIC MOMENT.
AND IF SHE CHOOSES, SHE WOULD
ALSO HAVE AN OUTSIDE ADVISER OF
HER CHOICE. A FAMILY MEMBER OR
TRUSTED ADULT TO GET THAT EXTRA
SUPPORT DURING THE PROCESS. SO
THE OUTSIDE ADVISER AND THE
CONFIDENTIAL ADVOCATE WOULD BE
ON HER TEAM GUIDING HER THROUGH
THIS PROCESS, STANDING BY HER
SIDE AT ACTUAL MEETINGS OR
INTERVIEWS, CHECKING IN WITH HER
AND OFFERING THEIR GUIDANCE AND
SUPPORT THROUGH THE ENTIRE
PROCESS. COMPLETE GAME CHANGER.
FOR THESE COLLEGE STUDENTS. MOST
OF THEM ARE VERY ALONE AND
SCARED GOING THROUGH THESE
PROCESSES. THIS BILL WILL HELP
TO ENSURE ALL FUTURE STUDENTS
AND UNIVERSITIES GET THE SUPPORT
THEY MADE DESPERATELY NEED WHEN
DEALING WITH THE STRESSFUL OR
CHALLENGING TITLE, NINE SEXUAL
ASSAULT DISCIPLINARY ACTION,
INCLUDING ACADEMIC PROBATION AND
SUBSTANCE ABUSE. WE TRULY
BELIEVE THIS BILL COULD HAVE
SAVED KATIE'S LIFE. UM AS IT
ACCESS THAT FRONT END SAFETY NET
AND IT WILL SAVE FUTURE LIVES
GOING FORWARD. THANK YOU SO MUCH
FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU SO
MUCH. WHETHER WITNESSES AND
SUPPORT IN THE HEARING ROOM.
OTHER WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION
IN THE HEARING ROOM. ARE THERE A
TWEENERS IN THE HEARING ROOM?
COLLEAGUES. ARE THERE ANY
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? SUMMER AT
US. YEAH I JUST WANT TO THANK
YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY AND YOUR
BRAVERY. THANK YOU.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S LOVE FOR
PRESENTING THIS ON ON BEHALF OF
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S IRWIN. I THINK
MY COLLEAGUE AND I WERE SITTING
HERE TEARY LISTENING TO YOUR
STORY. UM AND KATIE REALLY COULD
BE ANYONE'S CHILD. SO THANK YOU
FOR, UM, TURNING THIS INTO
SOMETHING POSITIVE, EFFECTIVE
AND THAT CAN HELP OTHERS. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO
MUCH. SOMEWHERE, MURATSUCHI. I
JUST WANT TO ECHO THAT AS A
PARENT AS A FATHER OF A
DAUGHTER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH
FOR ALL THAT YOU'RE DOING.
APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS
OR QUESTIONS. AUTHOR. WOULD YOU
LIKE TO CLOSE? I WOULD LIKE TO
REAFFIRM THE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF
THE STRENGTH AND THE BRAVERY OF
KITTY'S PARENTS AND THE
PURPOSEFUL NATURE THAT WE ARE
ALL IN THIS TOGETHER AND OUR JOB
AND DUTIES TO PROTECT AS MANY
CALIFORNIANS AS POSSIBLE AND
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR I VOTE IN
HONOR OF KATIE AND HER PARENTS
COMMITMENT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
ALSO MEMORY LOAFER PRESENTING ON
BEHALF OF SOMEWHERE, IRWIN TODAY
AND THANK YOU, KATIE'S PARENTS
FOR YOUR BRAVERY AND FOR YOUR
TESTIMONY FOR BEING HERE TODAY.
ONE OTHER MEMORY. EVERY DAUGHTER
LIVES ON IN THE WORK THAT YOU'RE
DOING. AS MENTIONED IN THE
ANALYSIS THAT SOMEBODY HIGHER
EDUCATION COMMITTEE IN THE
SENATE EDUCATION COMMITTEE
PUTTING TOGETHER A REPORT WITH
RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW TO SAY
CAN BEST CONTINUE TO ADDRESS
SEXUAL HARASSMENT AND THREATS OF
VIOLENCE ON COLLEGE AND
UNIVERSITY CAMPUSES AND
APPRECIATE THE AUTHORS
WILLINGNESS TO CONTINUE
CONVERSATIONS ENSURE THAT
LANGUAGE OF ASSEMBLY BILL 1575
LANCE WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS
THAT REPORT AS MENTIONED EARLIER
HAVING A SAFE PLACE TO TURN TO
RECEIVE ADVICE, SUPPORT AND
GUIDANCE IS IMPERATIVE FOR OUR
STUDENTS ARE EXPERIENCING A
CRISIS SOMEWHERE. BILL 1575
INSURERS THAT STUDENTS, FACULTY
AND STAFF HAVE A SAFE PLACE IN
THE FORM OF ADVISERS. AND
CONFIDENTIAL ADVOCATES. AND WITH
THAT MEMBERS, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE
WORLD. FILE ITEM FIVE. MAYBE
1575. THE MOTION IS DUE PASS TO
THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE.
PHªN I TALK. ALRIGHT I ARAMBULA
ARAMBULA. AYE BURNER I CHAN
CHAN. I SAY LEE ATIS? AYE
JACKSON LOW I MURATSUCHI GI
QUIRK-SILVA. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THAT ITEM HAS EIGHT VOTES. NO
KNOWS THAT ITEM IS ON WELL
CONTINUED ITEM FOR ADDITIONAL
MEMBERS OUT ON AND THANK YOU SO
MUCH AGAIN FOR JOINING US HERE
TODAY. THANK YOU ALL EVERY ONE
OF YOU. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. NOW WE'LL
MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER THREE
ASSEMBLY BILL 1142 WOULD LIKE TO
PASS THE GUY WITH THE, UM AS I
PRESENT AS WELL. ALRIGHT THANK
YOU SO MUCH. AND NOW MAYBE 1142.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MR CHAIRMAN
MEMBERS ASSEMBLY BILL 1142
ESTABLISHES THE COORDINATING
COMMISSION FOR POST SECONDARY
EDUCATION IN CALIFORNIA. PRIOR
TO 2011, CALIFORNIA HAD AN
INDEPENDENT BODY CALLED THE
CALIFORNIA POSTSECONDARY
EDUCATION COMMISSION. TO
COORDINATE BOTH PUBLIC AND
PRIVATE POST SECONDARY EDUCATION
IN CALIFORNIA. CPAC PROVIDED
INDEPENDENT ANALYSES AND
RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE
LEGISLATURE. UNFORTUNATELY THE
BUDGET WAS REDUCED OVER TIME AND
THE RESULT THE WORK BECAME LESS
AND LESS EFFECTIVE. CPAC SHUT
DOWN IN THE FALL OF 2011.
CALIFORNIA'S ONLY ONE OF TWO
STATES IN OUR NATION WITHOUT A
STATEWIDE OVERSIGHT AND
COORDINATING BODY. IN THE
MEANTIME, HIGHER EDUCATION
STAKEHOLDERS AND LEGISLATORS
HAVE ACKNOWLEDGED THE ABSENCE OF
A BODY TO HELP GUIDE POLICY
THROUGH AN INDEPENDENT AND
HOLISTIC LANDS SOMEWHERE. BILL
1142 IS A VEHICLE TO HELP US
CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION OF
WHAT AN INDEPENDENT ACCORDION
BODY SHOULD LOOK LIKE. THIS
COMMITTEE JOINTLY ALONG WITH THE
SENATE EDUCATION COMMITTEE.
PLANS ON HOODING AND
INFORMATIONAL HEARING IN
FEBRUARY IS VERY TOPIC. THE
JANUARY 3RD AMENDMENTS REMOVE
THE STRUCTURE OF THE DOUBLE CPAC
SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO GAIN
INSIGHT FROM THE HEARING AND
WORK WITH STAKEHOLDERS AND THE
GOVERNOR. I WANT TO THANK YOU
SOMEWHERE EVEN LOW FOR ALSO
BEING A JOINT AUTHOR ON THIS
BILL, AND WE'RE FELIX
RESPECTFULLY ASKED FOR AN A
VOTE. AND GIVE SOME MUST SEE OR
OTHER ANY WITNESSES IN SUPPORT
IN THE HEARING ROOM. THIS
AFTERNOON. GOOD AFTERNOON. RON
RAP, SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA FACULTY ASSOCIATION,
WERE IN STRONG SUPPORT OF THIS
BILL. WE UNDERSTAND AND VALUE
THE IMPORTANCE OF EFFECTIVE
OVERSIGHT AND COORDINATED
PLANNING AND EDUCATIONAL SECTOR
SECTOR. THIS BILL REPRESENTS A
SIGNIFICANT STEP TOWARDS
STRENGTHENING THE EFFICACY AND
INTEGRITY OF POST SECONDARY
EDUCATION IN CALIFORNIA. AND
BECAUSE OF THAT, WE RESPECTFULLY
REQUEST ER, I VOTE. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU SO MUCH THERE AND THE
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION IN THE
HEARING ROOM. ARE THERE ANY
TWITTER IN THE HEARING ROOM?
GOOD AFTERNOON. MARY MOYLE WITH
THE CSU. WE DO NOT HAVE AN
OFFICIAL POSITION ON THE BILL
BILL YET, BUT AS THE BILL
EVOLVES, WE WOULD LIKE TO ENSURE
THAT THE SYSTEMS OF HIGHER
EDUCATION HAVING MEANINGFUL
VOICE, UH AND WE ALSO LOOK
FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THE
AUTHOR ON THIS. THANK YOU. GOOD
AFTERNOON. ALEX GRAVES AT THE I
C C U I WOULD JUST ECHO THE
COMMENTS OF MY COLLEAGUE FROM
THE CSU. THANK YOU. AND GIVE
SOME MASKS. MANY MEMBERS. ARE
THERE ANY WISHIN COME WHEN IT
CONCERNS ALL RIGHT, AND ARTHUR.
DO YOU WISH TO BLOWS? THANK YOU
SO MUCH. I APPRECIATE ALL THE
COMMENTS AND RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR YOUR NOTEBOOK. ALRIGHT SO
BEFORE, I ASKED, UH MADAM
SECRETARY TO DO ROLL CALL THAT I
WANT TO THANK THE OTHER FOR
INTRODUCING THE BILL. I THINK
THAT THE LANGUAGE OF THE BILL IS
REALLY SUPPORTABLE. HOWEVER I DO
HAVE A CONCERN BECAUSE YOU KNOW,
WE ALL WEAR THAT AH, THIS
CURRENT YEAR I WOULD STAY HAVING
DEFICITS. SO THAT'S IT. THE ONLY
CONCERN I HAVE. SO I HOPE THAT
OTHER UNDERSTAND THAT I EVEN THE
. THE EVEN THE LANGUAGE OF THE
BILL IS REALLY SUPPORTABLE, BUT
I CANNOT VOTE FOR THIS TIME.
HOWEVER, I RESERVE MY SUPPORT IN
THE FUTURE. OKAY? SECRETARY CAN
YOU DO ROLL CALL? FILE ITEM
NUMBER THREE A B 1142. THE
MOTION IS DUE PASS TO THE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE BOMB. I
TALK. HMM. NOT VOTING. TODD NOT
VOTING. ARAMBULA ARAMBULA. AYE
BURNER I CHAN CHAN I DAILY. AT
US, JACKSON. HELLO I IMMERSE UCI
. I QUIRK-SILVA. EIGHT YESES
WILL HOLD IT OPEN FOR ADD ONS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. YEAH.
I THINK SO. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
COLLEAGUES THANK YOU, MR TOM.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. COLLEAGUES
FOR ROBUST HEARING WILL KEEP THE
ITEMS OPEN WILL HAVE MEMBERS OF
THEM AT THIS TIME. AH ROLL CALL,
PLEASE. AND WE'LL GO THROUGH
EACH AT THE TIME, MADAM
SECRETARY CODE ITEM ON I DON'T
KNOW. ONE CAPACITY. THANK YOU.
FILE ITEM NUMBER ONE A. B 359.
THE MOTION IS DUE PASS TO THE
EDUCATION COMMITTEE. ARAMBULA
ARAMBULA. AYE. THAT HAS EIGHT
EYES. NO NOSE WILL KEEP THE ITEM
OPEN FOR ANY ADDITIONAL MEMBERS
WOULD LIKE TO ADD ON ITEM NUMBER
TWO. NUMBER TWO A B 810. THE
MOTION IS DUE PASS TO THE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE.
ARAMBULA ARAMBULA. AYE. THANK
YOU SO MUCH. COLLEAGUES THAT
ITEM HAS EIGHT EYES. NO NOSE
WILL KEEP THE ITEM FOR ANY
ADDITIONAL MEMBERS I'D LIKE TO
ADD ON NEXT UP IS ITEM NUMBER
FOUR. ITEM NUMBER FOUR A B 1160.
THE MOTION IS DUE PAST TWO AS
AMENDED TO THE APPROPRIATIONS
COMMITTEE. ARAMBULA ARAMBULA
AYE. THANK YOU SO MUCH
COLLEAGUES THAT HAS SIX EYES TO
NOSE WILL KEEP THE ITEM OPEN FOR
ANY ADDITIONAL MEMBERS. I WOULD
LIKE TO ADD ON WE'LL KEEP THE
ROLE OPEN FOR A FEW MORE MINUTES
. ANY MEMBERS I WOULD LIKE TO
ADD ON WE'LL KEEP THE ROLE OPEN
FOR A FEW MORE MINUTES. FIVE
MORE MINUTES, PLEASE. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU SO MUCH COLLEAGUES.
AWESOME.
DIMENSIONS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH AT THIS TIME.
LIKE TO OPEN THE ROAD FOR
ADDITIONAL MEMBERS OUT ON. I
REMEMBER ONE. MADAM SECRETARY.
WHILE I DON'T NUMBER ONE A B 359
. THE MOTION IS DUE PASS TO THE
EDUCATION COMMITTEE. JACKSON
JACKSON. AYE. THAT ITEM HAS NINE
EYES. NO NOSE WILL KEEP THE ROPE
IT FOR ANY ADDITIONAL MEMBERS.
I'D LIKE TO ADD ON NUMBER TWO,
MADAM SECRETARY. WHILE ITEM
NUMBER TWO A B 810. THE MOTION
IS DUE PASS TO THE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE.
JACKSON JACKSON AYE. THANK YOU
SO MUCH. THAT ITEM HAS NINE EYES
. NO NOSE WILL KEEP THE ITEM
ADDITIONAL ITEM UP FOR ANY
ADDITIONAL MEMBERS LIKE THAT ON
THANK YOU SO MUCH. NUMBER THREE,
PLEASE. WHILE I DON'T NUMBER
THREE A B 1142. THE MOTION IS
DUE PASS TO THE APPROPRIATIONS
COMMITTEE. JACKSON JACKSON. AYE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. THAT ITEM HAS
EIGHT EYES WERE NOT VOTING WILL
KEEP THE ROLE OPEN FROM THE
ADDITIONAL MEMBERS I'D LIKE TO
ADD ON NUMBER FOUR. PLEASE
HIGHLIGHT, UM, NUMBER FOUR A B
1160. THE MOTION IS DUE PASSES
AMENDED OPERATIONS COMMITTEE.
JACKSON JACKSON. I QUIRK-SILVA
SILVER? AYE. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THAT ITEM HAS EIGHT EYES TO
KNOWS THAT ITEM IS OUT. THANK
YOU SO MUCH. THE NEXT ITEM ITEM
NUMBER FIVE, PLEASE. ITEM NUMBER
FIVE A B 1575. THE MOTION IS DUE
PASS TO THE APPROPRIATIONS
COMMITTEE. JACKSON JACKSON. I
QUIRK-SILVA QUIRK-SILVA. AYE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH THAT ADAM IS
ITEM IS OUT WITH 10 EYES, NO
NOSE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE'LL
OPEN THE ROLE FOR ITEM NUMBER
ONE, PLEASE. FILE ITEM NUMBER
ONE A. B 359. THE MOTION IS DUE
PASS TO THE EDUCATION COMMITTEE.
QUIRK-SILVA QUIRK-SILVA I. THAT
ITEM HAS 10 EYES, NO NOSE. THANK
YOU SO MUCH THAT ADAMS OUT.
WHILE ITEM NUMBER TWO A B 810.
THE MOTION IS DUE PASS TO THE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE
QUIRK-SILVA. QUIRK-SILVA I THANK
YOU SO MUCH. THAT ITEM HAS 10
EYES. NO NOSE THAT ADAM IS OUT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. NUMBER THREE,
PLEASE FILE ITEM NUMBER THREE A.
B 1142. THE MOTION IS DUE PASS
TO THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE.
QUIRK-SILVA QUIRK-SILVA, AYE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH COLLEAGUES
THAT HAS NINE. ISIS'S AND IS OUT
AS WELL. THANK YOU SO MUCH
COLLEAGUES FOR BUST MEETING AND
THANK YOU SO MUCH COMMITTEE
STAFF AND TEAM FOR WORKING
EFFORTS ON OUR EDUCATION
COMMITTEE HEARING WITH THAT THIS
MEETING IS ADJOURNED. THANK YOU
SO MUCH.