OKAY EVERYBODY ELSE RIGHT NOW.
YEAH. GOOD MORNING, WE'LL BEGIN
AND START THE ASSEMBLY COMMITTEE
ON PUBLIC SAFETY. THIS IS OUR
HEARING TODAY TO DISPENSE OF THE
TWO YEAR BILLS. WE DON'T HAVE A
QUORUM YET, SO WE WILL START AS
A SUBCOMMITTEE OF THIS OF THIS
COMMITTEE. WE HAVE A FEW BILLS
TO DISPENSE OF THE SPORTING LIKE
TO WELCOME EVERYBODY HERE, UM
RETURNING COMMITTEE MEMBERS HAVE
SOME NEW COMMITTEE MEMBERS. WE
HAVE A COUPLE OF VACANCIES
TODAY, PEOPLE FILLING IN SO
WE'LL JUST GET RIGHT TO WORK.
WE'D LIKE TO BEGIN WITH SOME
HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS. UM WE HAVE.
WE HAVE ANNOUNCING THAT BILLS
THAT WERE PULLED BY THE AUTHOR
AND OFF THE CALENDAR ASSEMBLY
BILL 15 BY DIXON ASSEMBLY BILL
1582 BY DIXON ASSEMBLY BILL 1746
BY MR HOOVER AT THE END OF THE
SIGN AN ORDER IN THE BILLS BEING
HEARD, WE WILL HAVE SEVERAL
BILLS ON THE BOAT ONLY. AND SO
WE WILL BEGIN IN MEMBERS SIGNING
. WE HAVE MR RODRIGUEZ FIRST, MR
MAIENSCHEIN SECOND, JUST A
REMINDER THAT EACH PROPONENT HAS
AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE WITNESSES
SPEAK FOR FIVE MINUTES IN TOTAL
PER SUPPORTED PROPOSITION. THEN,
OF COURSE, WE WILL GO TO THE ME
TOO. OKAY WELL, UM, ALCOHOL
ROLES. WE HAVE CORN. MCCARTY.
HERE. ELONIS. ZIPPER. LACKEY
TOÀN. REYES. GIBSON WILSON. I'M
SORRY. DO YOU WANT TO DO THE
CONSENT? SURE OKAY, LET'S PLEASE
START BY DISPENSING WITH THE
CONSENT CALENDAR ONE ITEM ONLY
ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR. A B
1725 ATMOSPHERE BY MCCARTY. UM.
MOTION MOTION A SECOND. PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL. EXCUSE ME ON THE
CONSENT CALENDAR. MCCARTY
MCCARTY, I ELONIS ELONIS EYES
UBER UBER LACKEY LACKEY. I KNOW
WHEN AYE, REYES. GIBSON. WILSON
WILSON. AYE. OKAY. THANK YOU.
CONSENT CALENDARS ADOPTED. MR
RODRIGO TO HAVE TWO BILLS HERE
THIS MORNING. WHICH ONE? WOULD
YOU LIKE TO PRESENT FIRST? MAYBE
977. OKAY. PLEASE BEGIN. THANK
YOU, MR CHAIR MEMBERS. THANK YOU
FOR ALLOWING ME TO PRESENT A B
977. FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO THANK
YOU, MR CHAIR FOR YOUR COMMITTEE
STAFF FOR YOUR WORK AND
ATTENTION TO THIS BILL TODAY
EXCEPT THE COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS.
THIS BUILD, INCREASED THE
PENALTY FOR COMMITTING ASSAULT
AND BATTERY AGAINST AN EMERGENCY
DEPARTMENT WORKER INSIDE THE
HOSPITAL. THIS BILL WOULD MAKE
IT EQUAL TO THE PENALTIES FOR
ASSAULT AND BATTERY COMMITTED
OUTSIDE OF THE EMERGENCY
DEPARTMENT, DESPITE YEARS OF
HOSPITALS ADOPTING PLANS TO
PREVENT WORKPLACE VIOLENCE
REPORTED INCIDENTS HAVE NOT
DECREASED. IN FACT, WORKPLACE
VIOLENCE IN THE EMERGENCY
DEPARTMENT IS RISING AND
INCREASING HEALTHCARE BURNOUT
RIGHTS, ACCORDING TO THE
AMERICAN COLLEGE OF EMERGENCY
PHYSICIANS, 85% OF EMERGENCY
PHYSICIANS BELIEVE THAT
WORKPLACE VIOLENCE IN THE
EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT HAS
INCREASED OVER THE FIVE OF THE
PAST FIVE YEARS AND OVER TWO
THIRDS OF THE EMERGENCY
PHYSICIANS OR REPORTEDLY
ASSAULTED. IN THIS PAST YEAR
ALONE. STUDIES SHOW THAT THE
STAFF WHO ARE EXPOSED TO
WORKPLACE VIOLENCE CAN SUFFER
FROM BURNOUT, TRAUMATIC STRESS
AND COMPASSION, FATIGUE.
UNFORTUNATELY MANY 80 WORKERS
ARE TOLD WORKPLACE VIOLENCE IS
JUST PART OF THE JOB. THEIR
SUPERVISORS MAY NOT BE
SUPPORTIVE AND MAY EVEN
RETALIATE AGAINST VICTIMS FOR
REPORTING THE INCIDENT. AS A
RESULT, ONLY 3% OF ASSAULTS
REPORTED RESULTS IN PRESS
CHARGES, ACCORDING TO THE
AMERICAN COLLEGE OF EMERGENCY
PHYSICIANS. THIS BILL WOULD
CHANGE THAT NOTION THAT SUGGESTS
WORKPLACE VIOLENCE IS AN
INHERENT PART OF WORKING ON THE
JOB IN A HOSPITAL CITY. I HAVE
PERSONALLY WITNESSED ASSAULTS ON
EDDIE STAFF AND EVEN PHYSICALLY
RESTRAINING INDIVIDUALS AS WELL.
I'M NOT ALONE ON THIS WITH ME TO
PROVIDE TESTIMONY AND ANSWER
TECHNICAL QUESTIONS. AS CHEN
DENNO, WHO HAS EMERGENCY ROOM
NURSE AT SUTTER MEDICAL CENTER
ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
EMERGENCY NURSE ASSOCIATION, AND
DR CIGARETTE BURNS, WHO IS A
TRAUMA SURGEON ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA CHAPTER OF AMERICAN
COLLEGE SURGEONS. THANK YOU.
OKAY THANK YOU AGAIN, MR MR
RODRIGUEZ YET FIVE MINUTES FOR
YOUR WITNESSES TO SPEAK
COMBINATION. THANK YOU. GOOD
MORNING, CHAIRMAN CARTY AND
MEMBERS. MY NAME IS JEN. DINO
AND I'M EMERGENCY ROOM NURSE.
I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF CALIFORNIA
EMERGENCY NURSES ASSOCIATION AND
ALSO SET HER HEALTH. UM I'VE
BEEN IN A NURSE ETCETERA MEDICAL
CENTER FOR 25 YEARS 15 OF THOSE,
AND IN MOST RECENTLY IN THE
EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT SO DESPITE
WORKPLACE VIOLENCE, TRAINING
STAFF FACE ACTS OF VIOLENCE ON A
REGULAR BASIS. DURING THE FIRST
TWO QUARTERS OF 2023. THERE WERE
936 WORKPLACE, VIOLENT INCIDENTS
REPORTED THROUGH THE CENTER
HEALTH SYSTEM. THIS HAS A REAL
IMPACT ON STAFF AS
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S RODRIGUEZ
MENTIONED, AND I WANT TO
HIGHLIGHT A FEW OF THESE THINGS
ABOUT 10. YEARS AGO, A TECH IN
OUR DEPARTMENT WAS WATCHING A
PATIENT WHO DECLARED THEMSELVES
SUICIDAL BUT WAS NOT ASSESSED TO
BE A VIOLENCE RISK TO ANYONE
ELSE. BUT ALL OF A SUDDEN THE
PATIENTS STARTED ATTACKING THE
TECH. THE TECH WAS BEATEN SO
BADLY THAT HE HAD TO HAVE FIVE
SURGERIES TO RECONSTRUCT HIS
FACE. HE DIDN'T EVER RETURN TO
THE TO WORK THERE AGAIN BECAUSE
OF HIS EXPERIENCE. A FEW YEARS
AGO, ONE OF OUR NURSES WAS
PUNCHED IN THE FACE SO BADLY
THAT IT BROKE HER GLASSES. THE
PERSON WOULD HIT HER WENT TO
JAIL FOR FOUR MONTHS. WHEN HE
GOT OUT. HE CAME BACK TO THE
IDEA AS A PATIENT, AND SHE WAS
ASSIGNED TO TAKE CARE OF HIM
AGAIN. THE CHARGERS, NOT KNOWING
THAT THAT WAS YOU KNOW THE
INCIDENT THAT HAD HAPPENED AND
WE QUICKLY CHANGED THAT. BUT
EVERYONE IN THE DEPARTMENT THEN
KNEW THAT HE WAS SOMEONE THAT
HAD ASSAULTED HER AND WAS SCARED
OF TAKING CARE OF HIM. A WEEK
AGO, OUR CHARGE NURSE WAS
PUNCHED IN THE FACE BY A
PATIENT. THE POLICE DROPPED OFF
IN OUR BECAUSE HE WAS TOO
VIOLENT FOR JAIL. THIS HAPPENS
FREQUENTLY. THIS IS AN ISSUE
I'VE BEEN WORKING ON WITH
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S RODRIGUEZ FOR
THE PAST 10 YEARS. IN THAT TIME,
WE'VE DONE MANY THINGS TO
ADDRESS THE PROBLEM, INCLUDING
WORKPLACE VIOLENCE COMMITTEES TO
FIX THINGS THAT WE CAN IN OUR
OWN AREAS, VIOLENCE ASSESSMENTS
THAT ARE DONE AT TRIAGE SO THAT
ALL STAFF WORKING WITH A VIOLENT
PATIENT WILL HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE
FROM THE CHART AND ASSIGNED BY
THE DOOR. STAFF EDUCATION TO
HELP WORKERS UNDERSTAND THEIR
RIGHTS TO A SAFE WORKPLACE.
WE'VE ADDED MANY SECURITY AND
EVEN HAD LAW ENFORCEMENT IN OUR
ED EMPLOYED AND ADDED METAL
DETECTORS WE'VE DISPLAYED
SIGNAGE NEEDS ASKING PEOPLE TO
HELP US TAKE CARE OF THEM BY
ACTING IN A CALM MANNER, WITH
ZERO TOLERANCE FOR VIOLENCE AND
VERBAL ABUSE. WE FEEL THAT A B
977 WILL HELP HOLD PEOPLE
ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS.
AND WE WANT TO CHANGE THE
CULTURE OF VIOLENCE THAT WE'VE
BEEN EXPERIENCING FOR FAR TOO
LONG. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT
WITNESS, PLEASE. THANK YOU TO
THE CHAIR AND THE COMMITTEE FOR
THE PRIVILEGE OF SPEAKING. I AM
CIGARETTE, BORIS. I HAVE A
TRAUMA SURGEON AND HERE ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
CHAPTERS OF THE AMERICAN COLLEGE
OF SURGEONS. TENSIONS RUN HIGH
IN THE EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT. AND
THESE CRISIS SITUATIONS ARE A
DAILY REALITY FOR US AS WE
PROVIDE CARE TO PATIENTS
PRESENTING AFTER CAR ACCIDENTS,
GUNSHOT WOUNDS OR FOR THOSE WITH
OTHER ACUTE ILLNESSES MYSELF WAS
RECENTLY IN THE ER AFTER AN
ACCIDENT REQUIRING SURGERY AND
IT WAS ROUGH, THE ACUITY THAT
CERTAINTY THE PAIN THAT GOES
ALONG WITH AN INJURY REQUIRING
SURGERY IS VERY REAL AND
UNDERSTANDABLE. PATIENTS AND
FAMILIES ALSO BRING THE EXTERNAL
STRESSORS BIASES AND
EXPECTATIONS INTO THE HOSPITAL
ENVIRONMENT. OUR HEALTHCARE
PROFESSIONALS NOT ONLY HAVE A
RIGHT TO DO THEIR JOB WITHOUT
BEING HARMED, BUT IT ISN'T
ASSESS IT. E DR DARCY MAINVILLE,
A FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE IS AN E D
PHYSICIAN AND INTENSIVE ISTS WHO
WAS PHYSICALLY ASSAULTED BY THE
PATIENT IN THE ER, RESULTING IN
INJURIES. POLICE REPORT WAS
FILED, BUT NOTHING CAME A BIT.
THE PATIENT NEVER LEARNED THAT
ASSAULTING ANOTHER PERSON WAS
WRONG. IT HAS REPERCUSSIONS THAT
INDIVIDUALS AT RISK FOR
ASSAULTING ANOTHER PERSON, AND
THE CYCLE CONTINUES. A STRONGER
LEGAL PATHWAY IS ONE AVENUE FOR
IMPROVING REPORTING WITH
SUBSEQUENT IDENTIFICATION OF
SUPPORT OF UNDERLYING ISSUES,
CONTRIBUTING TO ASSAULT AND
DECREASING RECIDIVISM.
HEALTHCARE PROFESSIONALS
RECEIVED TRAINING AND WORKPLACE
VIOLENCE PREVENTION BY LEARNING
DE ESCALATION TECHNIQUES. YET
THESE ARE NOT ALWAYS SUCCESSFUL.
IT IS ESPECIALLY THE INTENTIONAL
AND TARGETED SALTS THAT NEED TO
BE IDENTIFIED WITHIN THE LEGAL
SYSTEM. WE ARE NOT WANTING NOR
EXPECTING COSTLY MASS
INCARCERATIONS. BUT THE
PROTECTIONS IN PLACE ARE NOT
WORKING AND PROFESSIONALS ARE
LEAVING THE E D AND LEAVING THE
HEALTHCARE PROFESSION AS
VIOLENCE AGAINST HEALTH CARE
PROVIDERS CONTINUES TO INCREASE.
THE NUMBER OF ASSAULTS IS UNDER
REPORTED AND A 2021 STUDY SHOWED
THAT 44% OF NURSES REPORTED
BEING SUBJECT TO PHYSICAL
VIOLENCE AS 68% REPORTED VERBAL
ABUSE. THIS IS ALLOWED FOR
NORMALIZATION OF ASSAULT IN THE
EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT. WE MUST
PROVIDE EQUAL PROTECTIONS TO
THOSE GIVEN IN THE HOSPITAL
SETTING AS IN THE PRE HOSPITAL
ENVIRONMENT. THIS IS REQUIRED
FOR HEALTHCARE, PROFESSIONAL
RETENTION AND TO CONTINUE CARING
FOR PATIENTS. I URGE YOU TO VOTE
YES, ON A B 977. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. NEXT WILL ALLOW
SUPPORTERS TO COME UP AND LINE
UP HERE AND PLEASED TO SAY YOUR
NAME AND ORGANIZATION AND YOUR
POSITION. GOOD MORNING, MR CHAIR
MEMBERS. COREY SELLS ALOT ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA STATE
SHERIFF'S ASSOCIATION IN SPORT.
TECHNIQUE. GOOD MORNING, VANESSA
GONZALEZ WITH A CALIFORNIA
HOSPITAL ASSOCIATION
REPRESENTING OVER 400 HOSPITALS
AND HEALTH SYSTEMS IN CALIFORNIA
HERE IN STRONG SUPPORT, AND
WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THANK THE
AUTHOR FOR BRINGING THIS
IMPORTANT ISSUE FORWARD. GOOD
MORNING, ALEXIS RODRIGUEZ WITH
CALIFORNIA MEDICAL ASSOCIATION
AND SUPPORT THANKS. MCKAY CARNEY
ON BEHALF OF CEDAR SINAI IN
SUPPORT. MISS THAT SHORT ON
BEHALF OF ADVENTIST HEALTH. LOMA
LINDA UNIVERSITY HEALTH, RADY
CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL AND THE
ALLIANCE OF CATHOLIC HEALTH CARE
AND SUPPORT. GOOD MORNING, MR
TURN MEMBERS, KARIN LANG ON
BEHALF OF SAN FRANCISCO DISTRICT
ATTORNEY BROOKE JENKINS AND
SUPPORT THIS MORNING. THANK YOU.
GRACE COPLIN FROM BRAUNSTEIN ON
BEHALF OF PROVIDENCE HEALTH IN
THE BAY AREA COUNCIL AND STRONG
SUPPORT. GOOD MORNING, TYLER
AGUILAR ON BEHALF OF THE USC
KECK SCHOOL OF MEDICINE AND
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. GOOD
MORNING, JONATHAN CLAY ON BEHALF
OF SCRIPTS, HEALTH AND SUPPORT.
MY NAME IS FRED NIGHTWEAR,
REPRESENTING STANFORD. HEALTH
CARE AND SUPPORT. THANK YOU. Tð
MADDEN, REPRESENTING THE
CALIFORNIA CHAPTER OF THE
AMERICAN COLLEGE OF EMERGENCY
PHYSICIANS IN SPORT. THANK YOU.
DO WE HAVE ANY ONE MORE. THANK
YOU. GOOD MORNING, MR CHAIR,
RYAN SHERMAN WITH THE RIVERSIDE
SHERIFF'S ASSOCIATION AND
SUPPORT ALSO IN SUPPORT ON
BEHALF OF THE POLICE OFFICER
ASSOCIATIONS OF ARCADIA, BURBANK
, CLAREMONT CORONA FULLERTON,
POMONA. PALOS VERDES, RIVERSIDE
MARIA TO NEWPORT BEACH, NEVADO,
SANTA ANA, UPLAND AND COVER CITY
AND THE DEPUTY SHERIFF
ASSOCIATIONS OF MONTEREY COUNTY
AND PLASTER COUNTY. ALL IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
WE'LL NOW MOVE TO THE OPPOSITION
OPPOSITION. PLEASE COME FORWARD.
YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES. MR
RODRIGUEZ. CAN WE HAVE SOME OF
THE SPEECH SEATS AVAILABLE WERE
WITNESSES.
GOOD MORNING CHAIR AND MEMBERS.
ERIC HENDERSON, LEGISLATIVE
ADVOCATE WITH A C L U CALIFORNIA
ACTION AND RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION
TO A B 977. WE AGREE THAT THE
WITH THE AUTHOR THAT EMERGENCY
ROOM PHYSICIANS, NURSES AND
HEALTH CARE WORKERS SHOULD NOT
EXPERIENCE WORKPLACE VIOLENCE.
STILL AN INCREASED MAXIMUM
PUNISHMENT AND FINE WILL NOT
ADDRESS THE PROBLEMS THIS BILL
SEEKS TO REMEDY IN FACT,
GOVERNOR BROWN SAME STATEMENT IN
HIS VETO MESSAGE OF THIS BILL IN
2015, SAYING, QUOTE IF THERE WAS
EVIDENCE THAT AN ADDITIONAL SIX
MONTHS IN COUNTY JAIL WOULD
ENHANCE THE SAFETY OF THESE
WORKERS OR SERVICE A DETERRENT,
I WOULD SIGN THIS BILL. I DOUBT
THAT IT WOULD DO EITHER END
QUOTE. EFFECTIVE EVIDENCE BASED
SOLUTIONS TO ADDRESS THIS
CONDUCT INCLUDE INCREASED
STAFFING LEVELS, INCREASED
TRAINING FOR HEALTH CARE WORKERS
TO RESPOND TO PATIENTS AND
FAMILIES IN DISTRESS AND THE
CREATION OF DE ESCALATION TEAMS.
A B 977 IS ALSO UNNECESSARY
EXISTING CRIMINAL PENALTIES FOR
ASSAULTIVE CONDUCT RANGE FROM
MISDEMEANOR TO FELONY
CONVICTIONS. THERE'S NO EVIDENCE
THAT THE CURRENT LAWS AND
SENTENCING STRUCTURE FAILED TO
OFFER AS MUCH DETERRENCE AS
CRIMINAL PENALTY CAN PROVIDE.
LASTLY AND IMPORTANTLY, RECENT
RESEARCH PUBLISHED IN THE
JOURNAL OF THE AMERICAN MEDICAL
ASSOCIATION, JAMA NETWORK OPEN
HIGHLIGHTS THE CRITICAL ISSUE
THAT IS MORE DESERVING OF OUR
ATTENTION NATIONWIDE. POLICE AND
SECURITY PERSONNEL AND HOSPITALS
WERE REPORTED TO HAVE
PERPETUATED SIGNIFICANT HARMS TO
PATIENTS AND FAMILIES AND
SOMETIMES STAFF. WHICH IS MOST
FREQUENTLY DIRECTED TOWARDS
BLACK MEN AND PEOPLE
EXPERIENCING A MENTAL HEALTH
CRISIS. PATIENTS ALSO DESERVE TO
BE FREE FROM VIOLENCE AND
HOSPITALS AND EMERGENCY ROOMS
AND MORE ATTENTION SHOULD BE
DIRECTED AT NON LAW ENFORCEMENT
SOLUTIONS TO MAKE HOSPITALS
SAFER. HOSPITAL SAFER PLACES FOR
ALL FOR THESE REASONS, WE WERE
ACTUALLY ASKED FOR YOUR NOVO.
GOOD MORNING, MARCO GEORGE ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC
DEFENDERS ASSOCIATION VERSUS
EXCUSE ME. I'M SORRY. I WANT TO
SAY THAT, UM EMERGENCY ROOM
WORKERS ARE AKIN TO PUBLIC
DEFENDERS. AND WE CERTAINLY, UM,
EMPATHIZE AND FEELS A LOT OF
KINSHIP WITH WHAT THEY UNDERGO
BECAUSE THEY'RE DEALING WITH
PEOPLE. WHO ARE MANY TIMES UNDER
STRESS. UM DETOXING FROM DRUGS.
UM YOU KNOW, THEIR FAMILIES ARE
WORRIED AND SCARED, AND THESE
ARE SITUATIONS THAT MAKE FOR
PROBLEMS IN THE WORKPLACE.
YOU'RE OPPOSED TO, UH, MAYBE 977
AND I WON'T REITERATE MR
HENDERSON'S COMMENTS, BUT YOU
KNOW, I WOULD JUST ECHO THEM. I
DO WANT TO SAY AS SOMEONE WHO
HAS SPENT A LOT OF TIME THE LAST
YEAR IN THE EMERGENCY ROOM WITH
FRIENDS AND FAMILY, AND I'M SURE
MANY OTHER PEOPLE HAVE HAD THIS
EXPERIENCE THAT, UM WAIT TIMES
ARE GETTING LONGER. AND THERE'S
FEWER STAFF. UM. THIS LABOR DAY
WEEKEND. I SPENT 16 HOURS IN THE
EMERGENCY ROOM AND SANTA CLARA
COUNTY. UM. THERE ARE MANY
CAUSES FOR THE PROBLEMS AND THE
EMERGENCY DEPARTMENTS. THEY'VE
BEEN STUDIED BOTH BY RESEARCHERS
IN THIS COUNTRY AND ABROAD. AND
ONE OF THE THINGS IS THAT IN
THIS COUNTRY IS THE SAFETY NET
HAS BEEN DEPLETED AND MORE AND
MORE PEOPLE WHO ARE SICKER AND
SICKER ARE GOING TO THE
EMERGENCY ROOM AND RELYING ON
THAT AS THEIR PRIMARY CARE. AT
THE SAME TIME, PHYSICIANS AND
NURSES HOURS HAVE BEEN CUT. MOST
EMERGENCY DEPARTMENTS. THE
DOCTORS AND NURSES WHO WORK
THERE ARE NOT HOSPITAL EMPLOYEES
. THEY BELONG TO PRIVATE
PRACTICE GROUPS. WHICH HAVE BEEN
BROUGHT UP IN RECENT YEARS BY
PRIVATE EQUITY GROUPS, INCLUDING
BLACKSTONE AND ONYX CORPORATION,
AND IN ORDER TO INCREASE
PROFITS. THEY HAVE CUT STAFFING.
THIS IS RESULTED IN WAR, HARM
AND DANGER NOT JUST TO PATIENTS
BUT TO STAFF. AND. I THINK OF
THE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE
TO MAKE EMERGENCY ROOM SAFER OR
SOME OF THE THINGS THAT MR
HENDERSON, UM POINTED OUT. THE
FEDERAL OCEAN HAS A
COMPREHENSIVE VIOLENCE
PREVENTION, GUIDELINE AND BOOK
THAT GOES THROUGH EVERY SINGLE
STEP OF WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IN
AMERICAN HOSPITALS AND THE ONE
OF THE MOST SALIENT FEATURES IS
ADEQUATE STAFFING. SIMILARLY THE
V A HOSPITALS HAVE PROGRAM AND
HAVE IMPLEMENTED A BEHAVIORAL
MANAGEMENT PROGRAM. THAT STARTS
WITH COMMUNICATION WITH VERBAL
CONFLICTS WITH PATIENTS AND
TALKS TO THE STAFF ABOUT HOW TO
WORK AND TEAMS TO CONTAIN A
PATRIOT SAFELY, UNFORTUNATELY
AND MOST EMERGENCY ROOMS THESE
DAYS BECAUSE OF STAFFING CUTS.
THERE ARE NO TEAMS THAT CAN DEAL
WITH THESE SITUATIONS. UM THIS
RECOURSE TO THE CRIMINAL LAW TO
CONTAIN ISSUE THAT HAS BEEN
CREATED BY THE CUTS IS WRONG
THAT IT'S JUST SHIFTING TO WRAP
IT UP, PLEASE. YES THANK YOU. SO
WE'RE STAYING THAT IT NEEDS TO
BE DEALT WITH IN A HEALTH MANNER
WITH PREVENTIVE MEASURES. AND WE
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR NO
VOTE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR
YOUR TESTIMONY. DO WE HAVE ANY
OTHERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK
IN OPPOSITION? PLEASE? STATE
YOUR NAME AND ORGANIZATION ONLY.
GOOD MORNING, GREGORY. FIDDLE
WITH INITIATE JUSTICE AND
RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION. THANK
YOU. KOURTNEY HANSEN WITH
DECARCERATION, SACRAMENTO AND
STRONG OPPOSITION. DAVID BOARD
ON BEHALF OF LEGISLATORS WHO
CAN'T BE HERE BUT FEEL THAT
INCARCERATION DOES NOT WORK AND
WITH OTHER DISRESPECT TO
VICTIMS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
AND OPPOSITION. MELANIE KIM'S
FRANCISCO PUBLIC DEFENDER'S
OFFICE AND OPPOSITION. ALICIA
BENEFIT DOESN'T HAVE THE DRUG
POLICY ALLIANCE AND OPPOSITION.
DANIEL HARTFIELD ON BEHALF OF
FELONY MURDER PROJECT IN
RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION. SUSAN
BUSTAMANTE, CALIFORNIA COALITION
WOMEN PRISONERS IN OPPOSITION.
KELLY SALAD RODRIGUEZ FRESHER
ITEM PUNISHED IN OPPOSITION.
EUGENE DAY WITH OUTSIDE
SOLUTIONS CONSULTING HAS
STRONGLY OPPOSED. CARRY OUR ZAP
A PRESENT FROM THE INSIDE OUT,
ALSO REPRESENTING OUR YOUTH
IMPACTED BY INCARCERATION. BETTY
MCKAY HAS SUGGESTED GROUPS
STRONGLY OPPOSED. ALICIA MONTERO
, REPRESENTING CALIFORNIA'S
UNITED FOR RESPONSIBLE BUDGET,
STRONGLY OPPOSED. SABRINA
BOUTIETTE WITH INSIGHT PRISON
PROJECT STRONGLY OPPOSED. SEEING
NO MORE WITNESSES AND
OPPOSITION. NO, NO TWEENERS.
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. MR LACKEY.
YEAH, THANK YOU. I JUST SAID
IT'S MORE COMMENTS. NOT REALLY
QUESTIONS. I BELIEVE THAT I
SUPPORTED THIS MEASURE
PREVIOUSLY, AND THERE'S A REASON
WHY, YOU KNOW WE'RE ALL THE
PRODUCT OF OUR LIFE EXPERIENCE,
AND I CAN TELL YOU ONE THING
I'VE LEARNED AND WATCHING THE
BEHAVIOR OF PEOPLE. IS THAT IT'S
OFTEN VERY UNPREDICTABLE
PEOPLE'S BEHAVIOR. BUT ONE THING
THAT. IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE PART
OF OUR SYSTEM IS JUSTICE AND
JUSTICE NEEDS TO BE A BALANCE.
AND I EMPHASIZE THE WORD
BALANCE. A BALANCE BETWEEN AH,
VICTIM CONSIDERATION. AND THE
ACCUSED SITUATION. WHEN THE
COURTS EVALUATE AN INCIDENT THEY
FIRST HAD THE RESPONSIBILITY TO
DETERMINE WHETHER THERE'S GUILT
OR THERE'S NO GUILT. THERE IS
EVIDENCE TO AT LEAST TO CONVICT.
AND AFTER THAT IS THE PENALTY
PHASE IF THEY SO CHOOSE TO
CONVICT. AND I THINK OUR SOCIETY
IS GETTING CONFUSED BECAUSE
THERE HAS BEEN SOME HEAVY
HANDEDNESS AND PENALTIES.
QUESTION ABOUT THAT. OUR HISTORY
HAS TAUGHT US THAT BUT A
REACTION TO THAT HAS BEEN
SOMEWHAT OF AN OVERREACTION FROM
MY EXPERIENCE AND WATCHING
PENALTIES BECAUSE WHAT'S
HAPPENED? THERE'S BEEN AN
IMBALANCE ON TWO ASPECTS NUMBER
ONE WOULD BE THE VICTIM SEEMS TO
DISAPPEAR. IN OUR CURRENT SYSTEM
, FROM MY VIEW, AND THE SECOND
THING IS THAT WE FOCUS SO MUCH
THE PENALTY BECAUSE IT'S NOT
ALWAYS PROVEN TO BE A PREVENTIVE
MEASURE. THAT IT MUST BE WEAK
THAT IT MUST BE GIVEN
UNFAVORABLE CONSIDERATION AND
PENALTIES NEED TO BE A VERY
SMALL PART OF OUR PROCESS. I
WOULD ARGUE THAT THAT IS UNTRUE.
THAT PENALTY IS PART OF JUSTICE,
WHETHER IT PREVENTS SOMEBODY OR
NOT. WE HOPE IT DOES. BUT JUST
BECAUSE IT IS A PROVEN TO
PREVENT DOESN'T MEAN IT ISN'T
DESERVED. AND I WILL TELL YOU
THAT RIGHT NOW. THE BALANCE ON
THIS PARTICULAR PROPOSAL DOES
NOT WEIGH IN THE FAVOR. OF THE
MEDICAL WORKER. IT DOES NOT. THE
PENALTIES ARE VERY, VERY LIGHT,
AND I BELIEVE THAT THAT DESERVES
REMEDY AND I BELIEVE THAT THIS
IS A REASONABLE PROPOSAL TO HELP
REMEDY THAT PROBLEM. SO I WILL
BE SUPPORTING AND I THANK YOU
FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROPOSAL NOT
GIVING UP. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S WILSON. THANK
YOU ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S RODRIGUEZ
FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD. I
APPRECIATE YOUR THOUGHTFULNESS
AND YOUR EXPERIENCE IN THIS, UM,
BACKDROP IN THIS IN THIS FIELD,
AND I ALSO APPRECIATE THE
COMMENTS FROM MY COLLEAGUE
ACROSS THE WAY. UM YOU KNOW,
GENERALLY LOOKING AT THE
MESSAGES FROM BOTH GOVERNORS,
OUR CURRENT ONE AND PRIOR ONES.
YOU KNOW, IT WAS A PRETTY
COMPELLING TO ME. UM, BUT
ANOTHER PIECE THAT WAS
COMPELLING WAS THE FACT THAT IT
WASN'T PARITY. UM, I GENUINELY
DON'T LIKE TO INCREASE PENALTIES
BEYOND AND I GET THE
UNDERSTANDING OF WE HAVE TO KEEP
VICTIM THE VICTIM AT FOCUSED
HERE AND ENSURE THAT THERE'S
PUNISHMENT IS AS A PART OF OUR
JUDICIAL SYSTEM. BUT WE SHOULD
BE FAIR. IT SHOULD BE EQUITABLE
AND THERE SHOULD BE PARITY. IF
WE'RE SAYING THAT YOU COMMIT
THIS CRIME, UM, OUTSIDE OF
EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT, AND YOU
WOULD GET THIS LEVEL OF
PUNISHMENT. AND IT SHOULD BE THE
SAME NO MATTER WHERE IT IN
EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT AND THERE
SHOULDN'T BE THIS AUTOMATIC
FACTOR OF ASSUMING THAT THE
PERSON UM HAS IS IN A MENTAL
HEALTH CRISIS OR DOING SOMETHING
A CRIME IS A CRIME AND WHEREVER
YOU COMMITTED THE PUNISHMENT BE
THE SAME. SO I AM SUPPORTING IT
IN THAT REGARD, UM, TAKING INTO
CONSIDERATION THAT THERE IS A
LACK OF PARITY THERE AND THERE
SHOULD BE PARITY. UM AND SO
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS
FORWARD AND I'LL BE SUPPORTING
IT IN UNHAPPY TO MAKE THE MOTION
IF IT'S WHEN THE TIME IS
APPROPRIATE, OKAY, THAT IS
APPROPRIATE. WE DO HAVE EMOTION.
CHEN. YOU HAVE A SECOND MOTION A
SECOND, MR LONNIS. GOOD MORNING,
SOMETHING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP. I
BELIEVE OPPOSITION MAY HAVE
BROUGHT IT UP AND JUST SO
EVERYONE IS AWARE I'VE BEEN IN
EMERGENCY ROOMS PLENTY OF TIMES
WITH PRISONERS AND WATCHING THE
ASSAULTS THAT HAVE HAPPENED ON
STAFF DOCTORS AND WHAT HAVE YOU
AND SO THIS MAY GO TO THE
AUTHOR, OR MAYBE TO ANYBODY
ELSE. THAT'S THAT'S UP HERE,
SOMETHING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP
ABOUT DOCTORS WHO COME IN, UH,
PRIVATELY THAT AREN'T IN THE
HOSPITAL. I THINK MAYBE YOU HAVE
BROUGHT THAT UP. IS THAT
SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN
ADDRESSED? I SEE IN HERE IT
TALKS ABOUT. WORKERS IN THE
HOSPITALS ENGAGED IN PROVIDING
SERVICES. I'M ASSUMING THAT
WOULD BE UNDER THE SAME
UMBRELLA. YES I MEAN, ANY
HOSPITAL WORKER THAT'S INVOLVED
AT PROVIDING CARE TREATMENT.
SECOND INJURED. WE JUST NEED
PROTECTION FOR THEM, NO MATTER
WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM THEIR
HOSPITAL WORKERS IN THE ER,
SETTING TO PROVIDE CARE AND
TREATMENT FOR THE INDIVIDUALS
NEEDING THE CARE, SO THIS IS
JUST TO PROTECT THEM IN CASE
THEY WERE ASSAULTED, AND LIKE
YOU SAID. AS WELL. I TO WORK IN
MANY YEARS IN THE AMS SETTING. I
CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES I
PERSONALLY SEEN HOSPITAL STAFF
GET ASSAULTED, WHETHER THEY'RE
CONTRACTING OR NOT THEIR
HEALTHCARE WORKERS AND EMERGENCY
SETTING TRYING TO PROVIDE
TREATMENT AND SERVICE TO THOSE
IN NEED. AND I THINK IT
SHOULDN'T MATTER THE MATTER.
WHAT SHOULD MATTER IS THAT
THEY'RE PROTECTED UNDER A BILL
LIKE THIS TO PROTECT SAFETY AND
HOPEFULLY UM, STOP THOSE TYPES
OF VIOLENCE HAPPENING, AND NOW
WE ARE SETTINGS. RIGHT? THANK
YOU FOR THAT. I'LL BE SUPPORTING
THIS. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. I
ALSO SUPPORT THIS BILL. THANK
YOU, MR RODRIGUEZ. WE HAVE A
MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL. I'M SORRY MR EDWARDS
WOULD LIKE TO CLOSE WITH THAT
EXPECTED ARRIVAL. THANK YOU. ON
A B 977 BY SEVEN MURMUR
RODRIGUEZ. THE MOTION IS DUE
PASS AS AMENDED TO THE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE.
MCCARTY MCCARTHY I COLONIES,
COLONIES I ZABAR LACKEY. I KNOW
WHEN I RAISE RAISE I GIBSON
GIBSON, I WILSON WILSON. I OKAY.
THANK YOU. THAT MEASURE PASSES
YOUR NEXT MEASURE, MR RODRIGUEZ.
THANK YOU. 39 MAYBE MAYBE 1039
ITEM NUMBER FOUR. READY YEP.
OKAY. SO ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU,
MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS. THANK YOU
FOR ALLOWING ME TO PRESENT A B
1039. MAYBE 1039 WOULD ALLOW
SEXUAL ASSAULT. BY A CUSTODIAL
OFFICER IN A DETENTION FACILITY
TO BE PROSECUTED AS A
MISDEMEANOR OR FELONY. MAYBE
1039 WERE ALSO REQUIRE A PERSON
CONVICTED OF SEXUAL SORT TO BE
TERMINATED AND PROHIBITS THEM
FROM BEING HIRED AT ANY OTHER
PUBLIC DETENTION FACILITY. THE
BILL ALSO EXPANDS THE DEFINITION
OF SEXUAL ACTIVITY THAT
CONSTITUTES ASSAULT TO FURTHER
PROTECT INMATES. SEXUAL ACTIVITY
BETWEEN AN OFFICER AND AN INMATE
IS ALWAYS NOT CONSENSUAL DUE TO
THE POWER IMBALANCE. INSTANCES
OF SEXUAL ASSAULT ARE
PARTICULARLY PREVALENT IN
WOMEN'S PRISONS. THIS BILL
ALLOWS FOR INCREASED PENALTIES
FOR OFFICERS WHO ABUSE THEIR
POWER AND ENSURE THAT THEY ARE
REMOVED FROM POSITIONS THAT
ALLOW THEM TO DO SO. WITH ME TO
PROVIDE TESTIMONY, TESTIMONY AND
ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS
AND SUPPORT IS DAVID MCMORRAN,
THE DEPUTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY AT
THE LAW SCHOOL AT THE LOT. OKAY
THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING,
CHAIRMAN AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS DAVID MCMORRAN. I'M A
DEPUTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY WITH
THE ORANGE COUNTY DISTRICT
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. I'VE DONE SO
FOR ALMOST THE LAST 10 YEARS. UM
THIS SEEKS TO PROTECT IN THE
CASES I SAW IN THE LAST 12 YEARS
FEMALE INMATES. WHERE MALE
DEPUTIES ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF
THE POSITION OF POWER OVER THESE
VERY VULNERABLE VICTIMS, WHO ARE
RESTRAINED LIBERTIES ARE
RESTRICTED. AND SEXUALLY
ASSAULTING THEM COMMITTING
SEXUAL ACTIVITY ACTS WITH THEM.
WHERE THIS IS NOT CONSENSUAL
ACTS WITH THESE INDIVIDUALS.
THESE INDIVIDUALS. THE VICTIMS
THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH HAVE
ALLOWED SEXUAL ACTIVITY TO OCCUR
BECAUSE THEY FEAR WHAT WOULD
HAPPEN IF THEY DIDN'T THEY FEAR
WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO THEIR
FAVORABLE WORK POSITION THAT
THEY HAVE. IN CUSTODY OF LOSING
THAT THEY FEAR GETTING DAYROOM
PRIVILEGES AND BEING LOCKED IN
THE CELL. THESE ARE THE VICTIMS
THAT I'VE DEALT WITH. WHO ALLOW
SEXUAL ACTIVITY TO OCCUR BECAUSE
OF WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THEY
DIDN'T AND WHAT THEY'VE SEEN
INMATES WHO REBUFFED ADVANCES.
WHAT HAPPENED TO THEIR
PRIVILEGES TO THEIR FAVORABLE
WORK POSITIONS. THE SIX TO GIVE.
THE PROSECUTING AGENT AND ALSO
THE JUDGES THE DISCRETION. TO
CHARGE IT AS A FELONY. AND SO IN
SITUATIONS WHERE THIS IS A
CONSENSUAL THAT WE WOULD EXPECT
TO BE A CONSENSUAL ACT. THERE'S
STILL DISCRETION TO MAKE KEEP IT
AS A MISDEMEANOR, AS IT
CURRENTLY IS. BUT THE CASES AND
THE VICTIMS THAT I'VE DEALT WITH
IT IS ANYTHING BUT CONSENSUAL
ACTIVITY WHERE VICTIMS ARE
GRABBED, GROPED ASKED TO EXPOSE
THEMSELVES ASKED TO PERFORM
SEXUAL ACTS FOR THESE DEPUTIES,
PLEASURES AND THEY'RE DOING SO
BECAUSE OF THE VULNERABILITY
THAT THEY HAVE IN THE JAILS. AND
SO WE SEEK FOR EQUITY. WE SEEK
TO PROTECT THESE INMATES WHO
HAVE LIBERTIES THAT ARE
RESTRAINED AND HAVE RESTRICTIONS
ON WHAT THEY CAN AND CANNOT DO
TO GIVE THEM A VOICE. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. NO OTHER WITNESSES
TESTIFYING WITH YOU TODAY,
WITNESSES AND SUPPORT THIS LINE
UP. SEEING NONE. WITNESSES AND
OPPOSITION SUPPORT. YES,
SUPPORT. YES. FITZPATRICK
RIVERSIDE COUNTY DISTRICT
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, CALIFORNIA
DISTRICT ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION
AND SUPPORT THANK YOU. LAURENCE
COX HERE WITH LEGAL SERVICES FOR
PRISONS WITH CHILDREN. ALSO ALL
OF US ARE NON STRONG SUPPORT.
ALYSSA MORE LEGAL SERVICES FOR
PRISONERS WITH CHILDREN AND
STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU. DO WE
HAVE OPPOSITION? WE HAVE
WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION. PLEASE
COME FORWARD.
PLEASE BEGIN FIVE MINUTES
COMBINED. THANK YOU. UM GOOD
MORNING AGAIN. MARCO GEORGE ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC
DEFENDERS ASSOCIATION. UM WE ARE
NOT OPPOSED TO THE AMENDMENTS TO
A BEATEN 39, WHICH MAKE IT A
CONVICTION GROUNDS FOR
TERMINATION. I THINK THAT'S MORE
THAN WARRANTED AND INELIGIBILITY
FOR REHIRING. WE ARE OPPOSED TO
EXPANDING, UM, CONSENSUAL SEXUAL
TOUCHING TO MAKE IT A FELONY. UM
MAYBE 1039 PUNISHES CONSENSUAL
SEX ON THE SAME AS IF IT WERE
NON CONSENSUAL. AND UM, THE
EVIDENCE SHOWS THAT THAT, AS
NOTED IN THE ANALYSIS THAT
LONGER JAIL OR PRISON SENTENCES
WILL NOT DETER THIS BEHAVIOR.
AND IN FACT THEY'RE
COUNTERPRODUCTIVE. UM. THIS
CONDUCT IS ALREADY ILLEGAL,
REGARDLESS OF WHETHER IT'S
CONSENSUAL OR NOT. BUT STATE
DISTRICT ATTORNEYS ARE CHOOSING
NOT TO ENFORCE EXISTING LAW
BECAUSE THEY DON'T THINK JURIES
WILL BELIEVE THE INCARCERATED
VICTIMS AND WE HAVE RIGHT NOW
GOING ON. AND DUBLIN,
CALIFORNIA. UM AND FEDERAL COURT
. THE U. S ATTORNEY'S OFFICE FOR
THE NORTHERN DISTRICT OF
CALIFORNIA HAS SHOWN THAT THE
VICTIMS THAT THE FEDERAL WOMEN'S
PRISON IN DUBLIN ARE BELIEVED SO
FAR. EIGHT CORRECTIONAL OFFICERS
, INCLUDING THE FORMER WARDEN
AND CHAPLIN HAVE BEEN CHARGED
AND FOR REPEATED SEXUAL ABUSE OF
WOMEN INMATES AND SEVEN HAVE
PLED GUILTY. GIVEN HOW
WIDESPREAD THE PROBLEM IS THE U.
S FEDERAL JUDGE IS CONSIDERING
APPOINTING A SPECIAL MASTER TO
OVERSEE THE REFORMS THAT DUMPED
THE DUBLIN FACILITY. UM THE
FEDERAL PRISON RAPE ELIMINATION
ACT WAS PASSED AND 2003. AND
CDCR AND LOCAL DETENTION
FACILITIES STILL HAVE A NOT
COMPLETELY IMPLEMENTED IT. UM C
D C ARE ALREADY HAS DETAILED AND
EXPLICIT REGULATIONS ON THE
BOOKS AND PROCEDURES TO DEAL
WITH SEXUAL ABUSE AND. IT IS
RARELY RARELY USED. CALIFORNIA
JAILS ARE NOT COMPLYING. IN
APRIL OF THIS PAST YEAR, THE SAN
JOAQUIN COUNTY CIVIL GRAND JURY
SAID THAT SOME JAILS IN THE
COUNTY OR STILL NOT COMPLYING,
EVEN THOUGH THE FEDERAL PRISON
RIGHT ELIMINATION ACT IS 20
YEARS OLD. UM AND 2017. NO LOS
ANGELES COUNTY JAIL FACILITY HAD
UNDERGONE REQUIRED AUDIT UNDER
THE ACT. AND UNTIL THE LOS
ANGELES COUNTY SHERIFF JIM
MCDONNELL ANNOUNCED THE ARREST
OF A DEPUTY ON CHARGES OF SEXUAL
MISCONDUCT. IN 2023, THE
REQUIRED AUDITS WERE ONLY
CONDUCTED IN SEVEN OF THE STATES
114 COUNTY JAILS. LOCAL
JURISDICTIONS AND LOCAL VÀ S
NEED TO ENFORCE THE EXISTING WAS
AND REGULATIONS ON THE BOOKS
BEFORE THEY COME BACK AND ASKED
THAT SENTENCES BE INCREASED. WE
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR NO
VOTE. GOOD MORNING CHAIR MEMBERS
. ERIC HENDERSON, LEGISLATIVE
ADVOCATE WITH HULU, CALIFORNIA
ACTION IN RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION.
SEXUAL ASSAULT OF INCARCERATED
PEOPLE AS A SERIOUS MATTER THAT
MUST BE ADDRESSED TO PREVENT THE
LASTING HARMS EXPERIENCED BY
SURVIVORS. UNFORTUNATELY THE
POLICY PROMOTED BY 1039 WILL NOT
IMPROVE THE PREVENTION OF
DETECTION OF OVER SPRAY OFFICIAL
RESPONSES TO SEXUAL ABUSE, NOR
WILL THEY BE 1039 DETER
OFFICIALS FROM TAKING ADVANTAGE
OF THOSE IN THEIR CUSTODY. IF
THE GOAL OF MAYBE 1039 IS TO
PREVENT SEXUAL ASSAULT OF
INCARCERATED PEOPLE ARE MORE
EFFECTIVE APPROACHES FOCUSING ON
THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PRISON
RAPE ELIMINATION ACT PRIA AND
ENSURING CDCR HOLD STAFF
ACCOUNTABLE WHEN THESE INCIDENTS
OCCUR AS OF 2022, THE MOST
RECENT DATA AVAILABLE.
CALIFORNIA HAS YET TO FULLY
COMPLY WITH THE ESTABLISHED
PRIESS STANDARDS. NOTABLY
CALIFORNIA HAS NOT FULLY
COMPLIED WITH PRE S STANDARDS
SINCE 2014. ELIMINATION OF A
RETALIATION BY STAFF FOR
REPORTING MISCONDUCT, CREATING
WAYS TO SAFELY AND
CONFIDENTIALLY REPORT STAFF
MISCONDUCT AND CREATING ACCESS
TO OUTSIDE ADVOCATES AND LEGAL
COUNSEL WILL HAVE A MORE
SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON ENDING THE
SEXUAL ASSAULT OF INCARCERATED
PEOPLE. MOST NOTABLY, MAYBE 1039
WILL NOT INCREASE ACCESS TO
SERVICES FOR SURVIVORS DURING OR
AFTER INCARCERATION. POLICY
EFFORTS SHOULD CENTER SURVIVORS
AND DETERMINE WHETHER THEY
RECEIVED THE CARE AND SERVICES
THEY NEEDED TO ADDRESS THE HARM
S¼ EXPERIENCED FROM PHYSICAL
HARM TO BEHAVIORAL HEALTH NEEDS.
ADDITIONALLY A SIGNIFICANT NEED
AND A LEGAL REQUIREMENT IS TO
PROVIDE PSYCHOLOGICAL AND BIASED
SUPPORT FOR SURVIVORS, WHICH HAS
FALLEN SHORT ACROSS THE STATE.
FOR THESE REASONS, WE WERE
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR NOVO.
THANK YOU ANY OTHER WITNESSES
AND OPPOSITION? SAYING NONE
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. MR LOCKIE.
YEAH ONCE AGAIN. I DON'T NEED TO
BE LABOR. MY POSITION ON ON THE
COURT MATTER. BUT WHAT I DO
BELIEVE VERY, VERY STRONGLY. AS
IT TO SATISFY JUSTICE. THIS, UH,
THIS UNIQUE BETRAYAL. REACHES A
VERY EXPENSIVE. BETRAYAL OF
TRUST AND PUBLIC TRUST. AND, UH,
THE DEGREE TO WHICH WE ADDRESS
IT NOW IN OUR SYSTEM. WITH THE
STATUTE THAT EXISTS IS VERY,
VERY WEAK. AND VICTIMS DESERVE
BETTER. PUBLIC DESERVES BETTER,
SO I'M VERY, VERY HAPPY TO
SUPPORT THIS MEASURE. ONCE
AGAIN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU,
MISS WILSON. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR
BRINGING THIS FORWARD. I
TYPICALLY DON'T AND I KNOW THIS
IN MY LAST REMARKS, INCREASING
PENALTIES, AND PARTICULARLY
BECAUSE MOST INDIVIDUALS DON'T
KNOW WHERE THE PENALTIES ARE
BEFORE THEY DO THE CRIME AND THE
CRIME IS USUALLY MOST ARE NOT
PREMEDITATED. AND THE ONES THAT
ARE THEY DON'T CARE. UM WHEN IT
COMES TO THIS PARTICULAR TO ARE
THOSE THAT ARE IN POSITIONS OF
POWER. THEY HAVE TIME TO
UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT THE
CRIME IS THEY'RE DOING AND WHAT
THE PENALTIES JUST BY VIRTUE OF
BEING THEIR POSITION. THEY ARE
PROFESSIONALS, AND THERE'S THIS
EXPECTATION THAT THEY'RE KEEPING
SAFE AND WITH CONSENT. THERE'S
NOT CONSENT THAT'S ALREADY BEEN
ESTABLISHED IN LAW PRIOR TO
THIS, BILL, UM I APPRECIATE THE
TERMINATION PART OF IT. I THINK
THAT IS, YOU KNOW REALLY GOOD TO
THE POINT THAT A CL YOU BROUGHT
UP IN THEIR OPPOSITION, ALL THE
THINGS THAT WE SHOULD BE DOING.
WE SHOULD BE DOING ALL THOSE
THINGS AND THERE SHOULD BE BILLS
RELATED TO ALL THOSE THINGS.
THAT DOESN'T NEGATE THE
EFFECTIVENESS OF THIS BILL TO
DETER PROFESSIONALS, UM FROM
DOING WHAT THEY'RE DOING IN
PRISONS, BUT WE SHOULD BE DOING
EVERYTHING THAT YOU SAID AND BE
HAPPY TO SUPPORT ANYONE BRINGING
A BILL TO DO ALL THOSE THINGS AS
WELL AS YOU KNOW, OUR GOVERNOR
WHEN IT COMES TO POLICY, AND, UM
, THE SYSTEM TO BE ABLE TO, UH,
STRENGTHENING THOSE POLICIES TO
ENSURE THAT WE'RE TAKING CARE.
OF INCARCERATED INDIVIDUALS, AND
ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN
VICTIMIZED BY THOSE THEY HAVE
POWER OVER THEM. BUT WITH THAT,
I'LL SUPPORT THE BILL. THANK
YOU. MOTION. OKAY. WE HAVE
EMOTION IN A SECOND. ANY FURTHER
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM
COMMITTEE MEMBERS SAYING THAT MR
RODRIGUEZ, YOU MAY CLOSE RESPECT
THE ASH RIVAL. THANK YOU TO
SUPPORT THIS MEASURE. PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL. MAYBE 1039 BY
SEVEN MEMBER OF RODRIGUEZ. THE
MOTION IS DUE PASS TO THE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE.
MCCARTY MCCARTY, ELONIS. AYE,
ZABAR. BLACKIE BLACKIE. I LU█N.
REYES RAISE I GIBSON. GIBSON I
WILSON WILSON. AYE. OKAY THAT
MEASURE PASSES. THANK YOU, MR
RODRIGUEZ. NEXT AUTHOR, MR
MAIENSCHEIN. TWO MEASURES. LET'S
TAKE FIRST ITEM NUMBER ONE,
MAYBE 667. THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
MR CHAIRMAN. AYE. THANK YOU. AND
WITH THAT SUBTLE HAND, I WILL
SECOND. KEEP THAT IN MIND AS I
GO THROUGH MY COMMENTS,
CALIFORNIA SUCCESSFUL RED FLAG
LAWS. ALLOW THE COURT TO ISSUE A
GUN VIOLENCE RESTRAINING ORDER
TO TEMPORARILY RESTRICT ACCESS
TO FIREARMS AND AMMUNITION FOR
INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE DEEMED A
SIGNIFICANT RISK OF SELF HARM OR
HARMING OTHERS. IF, AFTER
HEARING, THE JUDGE CONCLUDES,
THERE IS CLEAR AND CONVINCING
EVIDENCE THE COURT WILL ISSUE A
RESTRAINING ORDER PROHIBITING
THE RESPONDENT FROM ACCESSING OR
ACQUIRING FIREARMS OR AMMUNITION
FOR ANYWHERE FROM 1 TO 5 YEARS.
8667 REQUIRES A COURT ISSUE OF
GUN VIOLENCE RESTRAINING ORDER
FOR MANDATORY FIVE YEARS IF THE
COURT FINDS EVIDENCE THAT
SOMEONE IS AT EXTREME RISK OF
VIOLENCE, INCLUDING REPEATED
OFFENSES OF SPECIFIED FACTS
WITHIN THE LAST 12 MONTHS, G
BROS. ARE VERY POWERFUL TOOLS TO
PREVENT GUN VIOLENCE. THEY USE
AWARENESS OF THOSE WHO ARE THE
FIRST TO NOTICE WHEN SOMEONE IS
IN CRISIS. OR BEHAVING
DANGEROUSLY AND PROVIDE A TOOL
FOR HER ACTIVE INTERVENTION.
MAYBE 667 WILL WILL FURTHER
PROTECTIONS AGAINST GUN VIOLENCE
BY ENSURING THOSE WITH AGREE GIS
PATTERNS OF VIOLENT BEHAVIOR AND
PREVENTED FROM POSSESSING A
FIREARM FOR A MANDATORY FIVE
YEARS. THANK YOU, AND I
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST AN AYE.
VOTE. THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE
WITNESSES AND SUPPORT JUST YOU
GOOD ENOUGH TODAY. THANK YOU.
YES. WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION.
SUPPORT COMING IN. THANK YOU.
CHAIR AND MEMBERS, TIM MADDEN,
REPRESENTING THE CALIFORNIA
CHAPTER OF THE AMERICAN COLLEGE
OF EMERGENCY FOR THE SENSE IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT. SEEING
NONE. WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION.
SEEING NINE. WE HAVE EMOTIONAL
SECOND ALREADY QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS FROM COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
CLOTHES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR
CHAIR AND MEMBERS AND
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST AND I THANK
YOU SUPPORT THIS MEASURE. PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL. MAYBE 667 BY SOME
REMEMBER MAIENSCHEIN. THE MOTION
IS DUE PASS TO THE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE.
MCCARTY MCCARTHY, I ELONIS
ZIPPER. LACKEY. LIMÓN REYES.
RAISE I GIBSON GIBSON, I WILSON
WILSON. AYE. OKAY THAT MEASURES
ON CALL NEXT MEASURE, REMEMBER
FIVE MAYBE 1047. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS IN
2020, THE NEW ENGLAND JOURNAL OF
MEDICINE, PUBLISHED A STUDY THAT
FOUND HANDGUN OWNERSHIP
DRAMATICALLY INCREASES THE RISK
OF SUICIDE BY FIREARM.
ADDITIONALLY, MANY INDIVIDUALS
WHO EXPERIENCE RECURRING
EPISODES OF SUICIDAL THOUGHTS
AND BEHAVIOR ALSO EXPERIENCED
PERIODS WHEN THEY BECOME AWARE
OF THEIR OWN RISK OF SUICIDE
DURING A FUTURE RELAPSE OF
ILLNESS, ACCORDING TO A STUDY
DONE BY PSYCHIATRIC SERVICES IN
2020. MAYBE 1047 SEEKS TO
ADDRESS THE RISK OF SUICIDE BY
FIREARM BY CREATING A VOLUNTARY
LIST THAT PEOPLE MAY SIGN UP FOR
TO ALERT A LICENSED BEHAVIORAL
HEALTH CLINICIAN IF THEY ATTEMPT
TO PURCHASE A FIREARM. UNDER
THIS ALERT SYSTEM BEHAVIOR
BOREAL HEALTH CLINICIAN CAN
CHECK IN WITH THE PURCHASER
DURING THE 10 DAY WAITING PERIOD
TO ASSESS WHETHER THE
INDIVIDUALS EXPERIENCING A
MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS IF AN
INDIVIDUAL DOES NOT HAVE A
CLINICIAN, THEY MAY ELECT TO
HAVE THE COUNTY HEALTH
DEPARTMENT WITHIN THE COUNTY.
THEY RESIDE, NOTIFIED EVERY TOWN
FOR GUN SAFETY 2020 FOUND THAT
52% OF GUN DEATHS IN CALIFORNIA.
ARE SUICIDES ACROSS ALL STATES.
CALIFORNIA IS A 44TH HIGHEST
RATE OF GUN SUICIDES IN THE
COUNTRY. MAYBE 1047 CREATES A
MECHANISM THAT CAN HELP A PERSON
PROTECT THEMSELVES AND THE
INTEREST INSTANCE OF A FUTURE
CRISIS. AND I DO WANT TO NOTE
UM, I SPOKE WITH RANDY PERRY,
WHO'S IN THIS ROOM REPRESENTING
POOR ACT. UM YOU SAID WITH THE
AMENDMENTS THAT WERE TAKEN, HE
ANTICIPATES, ALTHOUGH THEY WILL
REVIEW THAT POOR EQUAL, UH,
LIKELY REMOVE THEIR OPPOSITION.
AND WITH THAT, I RESPECTFULLY
REQUEST AND I VOTE. WITH DELL.
THEY DO. THIS PART.
GOOD MORNING, LISA GARDNER WITH
THE COUNTY BEHAVIORAL HEALTH
DIRECTORS ASSOCIATION. WE
REPRESENT THE LEADERS OF THE
PUBLIC BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SAFETY
NET AND 58 COUNTIES AND TWO
CITIES. WE RESPECTFULLY OPPOSE,
MAYBE 1047 AND SHOULD BE ON YOUR
LATE OPPOSED LIST. WE RECOGNIZE
THE INTENTIONS BEHIND THIS SPELL
AND SHARE THE AUTHORS. URGENT
CONCERNS FOR PREVENTING SUICIDE.
HOWEVER WE BELIEVE THIS BILL
LACKS CLARITY ABOUT THE
RESPONSIBILITIES FOR THE
COUNTING BEHAVIORAL HEALTH
COUNSELORS WHO WOULD BE THE
DEFAULT POINT OF CONTACT. FOR
THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO LIST NO
OTHER MENTAL HEALTH COUNSELOR AS
A CONTACT IS THIS WOULD EXPOSE
COUNTIES AND COUNTY BEHAVIORAL
HEALTH AGENCIES AND STAFF. TWO
SIGNIFICANT LIABILITY AND WE
HOPE TO CONTINUE TO STAY IN
DISCUSSION WITH THE AUTHOR'S
OFFICE AS THIS BILL MOVES
FORWARD, THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU ANY OTHER WITNESSES
AND OPPOSITION? SEEING NONE. AS
WILSON. QUESTION UM, ASSEMBLY
MEMBER MAIENSCHEIN. THANK YOU
FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD. I
APPRECIATE THE INTENT. I SHARE
THE CONCERN OF THE OPPOSITION.
NOT ENOUGH TO NOT VOTE FOR THIS
TODAY, SO I WILL SUPPORT IT. BUT
I ASK THAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER IF
IT IS VOLUNTARY. UM THEN WHY NOT
HAVE THE PERSON PUT WHO THEY
WOULD LIKE TO BE NOTIFIED IF
THEY'RE ATTEMPTING TO PURCHASE
THE FIREARM, WHETHER IT BE THEIR
OWN DOCTOR, MEDICAL DOCTOR,
THEIR OWN MENTAL HEALTH
CLINICIAN, EVEN A FAMILY MEMBER.
SOMEONE WHO HOLDS THEM
ACCOUNTABLE IF THEY'RE IF
THEY'RE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND
ENOUGH IN THAT PARTICULAR MOMENT
TO ADD THEIR NAME TO THE LIST IT
COULD. IT SEEMED LIKE IT WOULD
BE VOLUNTARY OF WHO IS NOTIFIED.
IF I'M WISHING TO PURCHASE A
FIREARM. AND SO WHY? JUST A
LICENSED MENTAL HEALTH CLINICIAN
AND NOT ANYONE. FIRST OF ALL I
WANT TO LET ME FIRST. THANK YOU
FOR YOUR COMMENTS. I WANNA COVER
A COUPLE OF THINGS. THEY'RE ONE
TO REITERATE. THIS IS VOLUNTARY.
UM SECONDLY, THEY ARE ABLE TO
SELECT SOMEONE, TO THE EXTENT
THAT THERE IS A LACK OF CLARITY
AND SOME OF THE LANGUAGE. WE
WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM
ON THAT. YES I AGREE WITH YOUR
OVERALL POINT. IF YOU HAVE THE
CLARITY OF MIND TO REALIZE YOU
ARE AT THIS RISK YOU ALSO LIKELY
HAVE A CLARITY OF MIND TO SELECT
SOMEONE. SO THAT IS THE INTENT
BEHIND THIS TO DO THAT WHAT WE
WERE TRYING TO DO, AND I THINK
WE MAY START TO WORK OUT SOME OF
THE LANGUAGES IN THE EVENT. YOU
DON'T HAVE SOMEBODY AND A LOT OF
THESE PEOPLE WON'T HAVE
NECESSARILY MENTAL HEALTH CARE
PROFESSIONALS THAT THEY KNOW BY
NAME OR THAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY
SEEN. WE WANTED TO HAVE A
BACKSTOP FOR THAT. AND SO THAT
WAS THE IDEA BEHIND IT. BUT,
YES, WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK ON
THIS AND CLARIFY THAT LANGUAGE
TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S A
THAT'S A ACCESSIBLE REASON.
RIGHT THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE
THAT. BECAUSE I DO. I COULD SEE
THE LIABILITY WHEN WE THINK
ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS IN THE NEWS
POST. SOMETHING HAPPENING LIKE
WAIT, A LETTER WAS SENT TO MY
LOCAL COUNTY HEALTH
PROFESSIONAL, AND THEY DID
NOTHING. UM AND SO ARE THEY WERE
NOTIFIED. AND SO I WANT TO BE
SURE THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT
YOU CONSIDER. THANK YOU FOR
THAT. WITH THAT OFFER THE SECOND
THANK YOU, MISS REYES. THANK YOU
, MR CHAIR. I SHARE THIS CONCERN
. UM THE LEGAL LIABILITY OF
WHOEVER IS LISTED. I THINK IT'S
SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE
ADDRESSED. THE CAUSE IS GOOD. I.
BUT THE LEGAL LIABILITY MUST BE
ADDRESSED. THANK YOU. SURE.
THANK YOU, MR MAIENSCHEIN. WOULD
YOU LIKE TO CLOSE AND MAYBE
ADDRESS SOME OF THE ISSUES FROM
THE TESTIMONY? I WOULD. I MEAN,
WILL CONTINUE TO WORK ON THIS.
IT IS TRYING TO FIND THAT
BALANCE. I MEAN, WE KNOW WE KNOW
THAT SUICIDE IS GROWING PROBLEM.
WE KNOW THAT HAVING HANDGUNS IN
THE HOME, PARTICULARLY FROM
SOMEBODY WHO SUFFERED GOING
THROUGH A CRISIS INCREASES THEIR
LIKELIHOOD OF SUICIDE. COMMON
SENSE TELLS US THAT AND THEN, IN
ADDITION, ALL STUDY AFTER STUDY
SHOWS THAT UM WE KNOW THERE WAS
A STUDY DONE IN 2017 8 EMERGENCY
DEPARTMENTS ACROSS SEVEN STATES.
THERE ARE 30% FEWER SUICIDE
ATTEMPTS AMONG PATIENTS WHO WERE
SCREENED COMPARED TO PATIENTS
WHO ARE NOT SCREENED. THIS IS A
WAY FOR US TO CUT INTO THESE
NUMBERS DRAMATICALLY. SO YES, WE
WILL CONTINUE TO WORK ON THESE
LITTLE ISSUES. IT IS OBVIOUSLY
NOT MY INTENT TO INCREASE
LIABILITY. WHAT THE INTENT OF
THIS BILL IS TO DO WHAT WE CAN
TO REALLY MAKE A SIGNIFICANT
DECREASE IN THE SUICIDE NUMBERS
AND THE ABILITY OF SOMEBODY
WHO'S GOING THROUGH A CRISIS TO
COMMIT SUICIDE. UM, SO WITH THAT
MR CHAIR AND MEMBERS HAD
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST AND I VOTE
OKAY. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A
MOTION AND A SECOND ACTUALLY
SUPPORT THIS MEASURE. UM, PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL. ON A B 1047 BY
SOME REMAIN SHINE. THE MOTION IS
DUE PASS TO THE APPROPRIATIONS
COMMITTEE. MCCARTY MCCARTY,
ELONIS, ALANIS NÓ ZABAR. LACKEY
A LACKEY NOT VOTING WHEN REYES.
REYES. AYE, GIBSON. WILSON
WILSON. AYE. THAT MEASURE IS ON
CALL. WE WILL NOW PROCEED TO NO
AUTHORS. WHAT WERE YOU.
THAT'S WATER. ANYBODY.
OKAY WHILE WE'RE WAITING FOR, UM
OTHER AUTHORS. WE HAVE TWO
MEASURES FOR VOTE ONLY. UM
THREE. EXCUSE ME. WE HAVE THREE
UM. THESE ITEMS ARE NOT
DEBATABLE. THESE ITEMS ARE NOT
DEBATABLE. NO PRESENTATION OF
WITNESSES. ONE THE COMMITTEE
MEMBERS ACCEPTING THE COMMITTEE,
THE COMMITTEE MEMBER, THE MEMBER
OF MR PATTERSON'S ACCEPTING
COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS, WE CAN
BEGIN WITH THOSE FREE MEASURES.
IT'S CALLED THE FIRST MEASURE.
AN ITEM NUMBER EIGHT A B THREE
TIMES 29 BY SUMMER MEMBER TALK.
IS THERE A MOTION MOTION.
EMOTION A SECOND. PLEASE CALL
HER OVER. THE MOTION ON THIS
BILL IS DUE PASS MCCARTY VOTING.
MCCARTHY NOT VOTING ALANIS
ALANIS EYES ZUBER. LACKEY
LACKEY. I WIN. REYES. REYES, NOT
VOTING GIBSON. WILSON. WILSON,
NOT VOTING. OKAY. THAT MEASURE
IS ON CALL. PLEASE CALL THE NEXT
MEASURE. ON ABC, 758 BY SEVEN
MEMBER DIXON. IS THERE A MOTION
SECOND. THE MOTION A SECOND.
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL MOTION IS
DUE PAST TWO APPROPRIATIONS
MCCARTY VOTING MCCARTHY, NOT
VOTING COLONIES. UNECE AYE,
ZABAR. LACKEY LUCKY I WHEN
REYES. REYES, NOT VOTING GIBSON.
WILSON WILSON, NOT VOTING
MEASURE IS ON CALL NEXT MEASURE,
PLEASE. ITEM NUMBER 10, MAYBE
1260 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
PATTERSON. IS THERE A MOTION
SOME OF THEM. SECOND. THE MOTION
IS DUE PASS AS AMENDED TO THE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE.
MCCARTY MCCARTY, I ELONIS? AYE,
ZABAR. LACKEY LACKEY. I WIN.
REGAS. RAY. IT'S NOT VOTING
GIBSON WILSON WILSON, NOT
VOTING. MR SOME CALL. I'M
SUPPORT THAT ONE. I'M SORRY.
WILSON VOTE CHANGE CHANGE WILSON
. WILSON NOT VOTING TO, AYE.
OKAY? THAT MEASURE ON COLLAR
THAT MEASURES SO ON CALL, WE
NEED ONE MORE CALL AS WELL. MR
PATTERSON'S MEASURES ON CALL.
OKAY LET'S PROCEED NOW, WITH
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S WEBER ITEM
NUMBER TWO A B 797. PLEASE
PROCEED.
GOOD MORNING, SHARON MEMBERS.
I'M HERE TO PRESENT A B 797.
WHICH WOULD REQUIRE CITIES AND
COUNTIES TO ESTABLISH AN
INDEPENDENT LAW ENFORCEMENT
REVIEW COMMISSION TO INVESTIGATE
AND PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS ON
COMPLAINTS OF PHYSICAL INJURY
AGAINST LAW ENFORCEMENT. MANY
CALIFORNIA CITIES AND COUNTIES
DO NOT HAVE A COMMUNITY BASED
REVIEW COMMISSION TO INVESTIGATE
COMPLAINTS ALLEGING PHYSICAL
INJURY AGAINST LAW ENFORCEMENT.
THE MISSIONS OF THESE
COMMISSIONS SHOULD BE TO HOLD
LONG FORCE MINT ACCOUNTABLE TO
THE COMMUNITY AND TO INCREASE
COMMUNITY TRUST AND LAW
ENFORCEMENT, RESULTING IN
INCREASED SAFETY FOR BOTH THE
COMMUNITY AND LAW ENFORCEMENT.
ADDITIONALLY, WHEN THERE IS NO
TRUST WHEN THERE IS NO LACK OF
COMMUNITY OVERSIGHT, AND AN
ISSUE DOES OCCUR. CITIES AND
COUNTIES OFTEN HAVE TO EXPEND
LARGE AMOUNTS OF MONEY AND
LAWSUITS. SO IT IS EXTREMELY
EXPENSIVE TO NOT HAVE COMMUNITY
TRUST AND A LOCAL WAY TO REVIEW
THE CONDUCT OF POLICE OFFICERS.
BETWEEN 2010 AND 2020. LOS
ANGELES PAID 215 MILLION IN
CLAIMS AND ORANGE COUNTY PAID 14
MILLION CLAIMS. THE BILL IS
NEEDED BECAUSE WHILE WE HAVE THE
ADVISORY BOARD UNDER SB TWO,
THERE WERE A FEW LOCAL COMMUNITY
BASED COMMISSIONS WHICH CONDUCT
INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATIONS. THE
LACK OF CONNECTION TO THE
COMMUNITY FROM THE POST ADVISORY
BOARD IS WHY THERE NEEDS TO BE
LOCAL COMMUNITY INPUT. AND A B
797 WOULD ACHIEVE THESE GOALS BY
ESTABLISHING BOARDS ACROSS THE
STATE AND ENSURING PUBLIC'S
FAITH INTO INVESTIGATION OF
PHYSICAL INJURY. WITH ME TODAY
TO SUPPORT TO SPEAK AND SUPPORT
OF A B 797 ARE DENNIS DAWSON
FROM THE CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION
OF BLACK LAWYERS AND GREG FIDEL
FROM INITIATE JUSTICE. THANK
YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. PLEASE
BEGIN. GOOD MORNING CHAIR
MEMBERS. MY NAME IS GREGORY.
FIDEL. AND I APPRECIATE THE
OPPORTUNITY TODAY TO SPEAK ON
THIS IMPORTANT BILL. OVERSIGHT
IS UNNECESSARY AND BASIC
FUNCTION OF GOVERNMENT IS
EXERCISED IN MANY WAYS IN THIS
BUILDING EVERY SINGLE DAY.
COMMUNITY BASED OVERSIGHT
COMMISSION SHOULD BE SEEN IN THE
SAME LIGHT. INCREASING
ACCOUNTABILITY AND BUILDING
TRUST WITH COMMUNITY
STAKEHOLDERS SHOULD BE WELCOMED
BY EVERY LAW ENFORCEMENT
DEPARTMENT ACROSS THE STATE.
TRUE PUBLIC SAFETY REQUIRES
SMART AND HOLISTIC SOLUTIONS IN
THE CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT
COMMISSIONS OFFERED JUST THAT.
THERE ARE COUNTLESS EXAMPLES OF
THE POLICE POLICING THEMSELVES
IN THE COMMUNITY FEELING LET
DOWN BY THE OPAQUENESS OF THE
PROCESS AND OUTCOME DELIVERING
PROFESSIONAL AND EFFECTIVE
POLICE SERVICES REQUIRES A HIGH
DEGREE OF PUBLIC CONFIDENCE AND
THIS IS DIFFICULT TO ACHIEVE.
WITHOUT INDEPENDENT OVERSIGHT
COMMISSIONS IN PLACE.
ADDITIONALLY RESEARCH HAS SHOWN
THAT CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT
COMMISSIONS HAVE THE POTENTIAL
TO REBUILD RELATIONSHIPS WHEN
GIVEN TEETH TO ACTUALLY
INVESTIGATE. CLAIMS ENFORCEMENT
DEPARTMENTS WOULD ALSO BENEFIT
FROM THESE COMMISSIONS BY
PERHAPS FEELING VINDICATED WHEN
OFFICER COMPLAINTS ARE VETTED
WITH CLEAR DUE PROCESS
GUIDELINES AND A PUBLIC MANNER
AS ESTABLISHED BY THIS BILL, AND
THEN EXONERATED. IN THIS WAY.
IT'S A WIN WIN POLICY. 8797 IS
GOOD PUBLIC POLICY AND I URGE
YOUR SUPPORT TODAY. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING, DENNIS
DAWSON, REPRESENTING THE
CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION. OF BLACK
LAWYERS. FIRST I'D LIKE TO THANK
CHAIRMAN MCCARTHY FOR PERSONALLY
MEETING WITH US ABOUT THIS BILL
AND FOR RECOMMENDING THAT THE
COMMITTEE ISSUE AND I VOTE. I
BELIEVE THAT WHAT WE HAVE HERE
IS A. NECESSARY. INGREDIENTS TO
COMPLETE. WHAT NEEDS THAT WHAT
THE COMMUNITY NEEDS IN ORDER TO
HAVE TRULY INDEPENDENT
INVESTIGATIONS THAT IS
INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATORS. NOT
PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR THE POLICE
DEPARTMENTS. YOU HAVE TO HAVE
SUBPOENA ISSUANCE AUTHORITY AND
YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE AUTHORITY
TO SEEK COMPLIANCE WITH THOSE
SUBPOENAS. YOU HAVE TO HAVE
INDEPENDENT LEGAL COUNSEL WHO
ARE NOT CONFLICTED. BECAUSE THEY
ALSO REPRESENT THE SAME LOCAL
GOVERNMENT AGENCIES THAT ARE
EMPLOYING THE LAW ENFORCEMENT
OFFICERS. WHEN YOU HAVE THAT YOU
HAVE A RECIPE A PERFECT RECIPE.
FOR TRANSPARENCY AND
ACCOUNTABILITY. WHICH IS GOING
TO BE CREATED BY COMMUNITY INPUT
BECAUSE IT IS PEOPLE ON THE
COMMUNITY IN OUR LOCAL
COMMUNITIES ARE GOING TO SERVE
ON THESE COMMISSIONS. THEY'RE
GOING TO BE GUIDED IN THE
PROCESS BY INDEPENDENT LEGAL
COUNSEL. YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE
SURE THAT THE OFFICERS
PROCEDURAL RIGHTS ARE RESPECTED,
BUT THEY ALSO ARE GOING TO MAKE
SURE THAT THE INVESTIGATIONS
THAT THESE COMMUNITY BASED
COMMISSIONS ARE GOING TO CONDUCT
DO WHAT IS VERY IMPORTANT. THIS,
I LEARNED. FOR WORKING FOR THE
ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE. BUT
35 YEARS YOUR INVESTIGATION
FINDINGS MUST RESOUND IN THE
FACTS AND IN THE LAW. AND WHEN
THOSE INVESTIGATIVE FINDINGS
RESOUND IN THE FACTS AND THEN
THE LAW. THEY ARE TRULY
EFFECTIVE RECOMMENDATIONS, WHICH
CAN BE MADE TO THE LOCAL
GOVERNING BODIES. I NOTICED IN
THE BILL ANALYSIS. THAT THERE IS
A VERY BROAD BASED COALITION. OF
COMMUNITY GROUPS SUPPORTING THIS
BILL. ON THE ONE HAND. AND ON
THE OTHER HAND, YOU HAVE ONE
INTEREST OPPOSING IT. AND THAT
IS THE POLICE OFFICERS
ASSOCIATIONS. CABLE ITSELF.
ISN'T EFFECTIVE ORGANIZATION OF
HIGHLY TRAINED AND HIGHLY
RESPECTED INDIVIDUAL LAWYERS AND
JUDGES IN THE COMMUNITY WHO ARE
CONSULTED BY THE COMMUNITY AS TO
WHAT BILL SHOULD BE SUPPORTED.
AND THEY WANT TO KNOW HOW THEIR
LEGISLATORS REPRESENTING THEM IN
THEIR DISTRICTS VOTED ON THESE
BILLS, AND WE WILL REPORT WHAT
THOSE VOTES ARE AND WE EXPECT,
AND WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT
THE LEGISLATURE'S ON THIS
COMMITTEE. DO WHAT IS REQUIRED
TO SUPPORT COMMUNITY BASED
REVIEW. OF COMPLAINTS FROM
PEOPLE WHO ARE ALLEGING THAT
THEY SUFFERED INJURIES, PHYSICAL
INJURIES OR THAT A FAMILY
MEMBERS SUFFERED DEATH. AS A
RESULT OF UNJUSTIFIED VIOLENCE
BY POLICE OFFICERS, AND WE WOULD
URGE THAT THIS COMMITTEE WOULD
SUPPORT THIS BILL. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR
TESTIMONY ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS
WISHING TO TESTIFY AND SUPPORT
PLEASE LINE UP ON THE SIDE AND
STATE YOUR NAME AND ORGANIZATION
AND POSITION ONLY. MARGO GEORGIA
ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
PUBLIC DEFENDERS ASSOCIATION AND
SUPPORT THANK YOU. SORRY IS
ANOTHER COMMITTEE. GOOD MORNING,
MASTER HERNANDEZ ON BEHALF OF
THE CENTER FOR POLICING, EQUITY
AND SUPPORT AND ALSO ON BEHALF
OF THE CALIFORNIA ATTORNEYS FOR
CRIMINAL JUSTICE AND SUPPORT
THANK YOU. CARRY OURS THAT DAY
WITH PRISON FROM THE INSIDE OUT
AND YOUTH IMPACTED BY
INCARCERATION STRONGLY
SUPPORTING THIS BILL. HELLO MY
NAME IS ARIEL PIERRE. I'M A PART
OF THE ALAMEDA COUNTY YOUTH AND
YOUTH ADVISORY COUNCIL AND WE
ARE IN STRONG SUPPORT OF THIS
BILL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
EUGENE DAY WITH OUTSIDE
SOLUTIONS CONSULTING AND WE
SUPPORT THIS BILL. THANK YOU.
SAYING NO MORE WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION
PLEASE COME FORWARD. YOU HAVE
FIVE MINUTES COMBINED. MR
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS, RANDY PERRY
WITH AARON READING ASSOCIATES ON
BEHALF OF POOR AKI SAN FRANCISCO
P O A IN OPPOSITION TO THE BILL.
A B 797 1ST OF ALL JUST SAY WE
AGREE WITH ALMOST EVERYTHING
THAT WAS SAID BY THE SPONSORS OF
THE BILL IN TERMS OF OVERSIGHT
AND REVIEW BY CIVILIAN
COMMISSIONS. UM THE PROBLEM IS,
THIS BILL MANDATES IT ON EVERY
CITY AND COUNTY. REGARDLESS OF
WHETHER OR NOT THEY ALREADY HAVE
CIVILIAN COMMISSION SET UP. IN
ADDITION TO THAT YOU ALREADY
CURRENTLY UNDER CURRENT LAW, YOU
HAVE THE AGENCY WHO ESPECIALLY
IF THERE'S INJURY TO A CITIZEN
OR OTHERS. UM YOU HAVE THE
AGENCY WHO DOES THE
INVESTIGATION ON IT BECAUSE OF
THERE'S INJURY. YOU HAVE THE
DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WHO
DOES INVESTIGATION ON IT. AND
THANKS TO THE CHAIRMAN, IF THERE
IS A FIREARM INVOLVED, YOU HAVE
THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
INVOLVED TO DO AN INVESTIGATION.
WHICH IS A GOOD BILL. AND
FINALLY THIS COMMITTEE PASSED
SENATE BILL TWO BY SENATOR
BRADFORD THAT CREATES WITHIN THE
POST COMMISSION, A BODY OF BOARD
THAT DOES FULL INVESTIGATIONS
AND PART OF THEIR INVESTIGATION
OF AN OFFICER TO DETERMINE
WHETHER OR NOT THAT OFFICER
CAN'T EVEN BE AN OFFICER ANY
FURTHER. UH UM, PART OF THEIR
INVESTIGATION LOOKS INTO
PHYSICAL ABUSE, INCLUDING ANY
TYPE OF EXCESSIVE OR USE OF
FORCE, SO ALL OF THAT CURRENTLY
EXISTS IN ADDITION TO THE FACT
THAT ANY LOCAL GOVERNMENT NOW
CAN SET UP THIS AND DOES NOT
NEED LEGISLATION TO SET UP. AND
ALMOST ALL OF THE MAJOR CITIES
IN CALIFORNIA DO HAVE CIVILIAN
OVERSIGHT. THIS WOULD SIMPLY
STACK ANOTHER CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT
IN ADDITION, BECAUSE THERE'S NO
EXEMPTION IF YOU ALREADY HAVE
ONE. AH ON THAT CITY OR COUNTY
WITH ALL THE COSTS THAT ARE
GOING TO BE BORN BY THE CITY AND
COUNTY, AND THEY HAVE TO HIRE
ATTORNEYS, FULL STAFFING, AND
THE LIKE. WE'RE TALKING TENS OF
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON A MANDATE
ON LOCAL GOVERNMENT. THE BILLS
NOT NEEDED AT THIS POINT.
THERE'S A LOT OF OVERSIGHT. IF
THE OVERSIGHT ISN'T WORKING,
LET'S CHECK IT OUT AND SEE WHY
OR WHEN IT ISN'T WORKING OR
BREAKING DOWN. BUT RIGHT NOW
THERE'S PLENTY OF OVERSIGHT IN
CALIFORNIA. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
. NEXT WITNESS, PLEASE. GOOD
MORNING, MR CHAIR AND MEMBERS.
COREY SELLS ALOT ON BEHALF OF
THE CALIFORNIA STATE
SHERIFFSASSOCIATION RESPECTFULLY
IN OPPOSITION TO THE BILL, I
WILL TRY NOT TO REPEAT MR
PERRY'S COMMENTS, BUT WOULD NOTE
WITH SPECIFIC WITH SPECIFICITY
THAT SHERIFF'S IN TERMS OF
EXISTING OVERSIGHT. WE'VE GOT
STATE AND FEDERAL DEPARTMENTS OF
JUSTICE, THE BOARD OF STATE AND
COMMUNITY, CORRECTIONS, STATE
AND FEDERAL COURTS, COUNTY GRAND
JURIES, DISTRICT ATTORNEYS AND
CIVILIAN REVIEW ENTITIES THAT
ARE ALL CURRENTLY IN PLACE,
CURRENTLY EXERCISING OVERSIGHT
AUTHORITY OF THE OFFICE OF THE
SHERIFF. AND NOT JUST IN THE
LIMITED SCOPE OF THIS BILL,
WHICH IS ONLY, UH, REVOLVING
AROUND INCIDENTS ALLEGING OR
RESULTING IN PHYSICAL INJURY. UM
AS MR PERRY SAID, EVERY LAW
ENFORCEMENT AGENCY IS ALREADY
REQUIRED BY CURRENT LAW TO
ESTABLISH A PROCEDURE TO
INVESTIGATE COMPLAINTS BY
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AGAINST
LAW ENFORCEMENT IF THE
COMPLAINANT IS UNSATISFIED BY
THE OUTCOME OF THAT PROCESS AND
THE COMPLAINANT, AND THE
COMPLAINT INVOLVES AN ALLEGED
CRIMINAL ACT, THE COMPLAINANT
CAN SEEK REDRESS FROM THE
DISTRICT ATTORNEY. NEITHER OF
THOSE PATHS ARE SATISFACTORY
THAT COMPLAINANT CAN FILE WITH
THE STATE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S
OFFICE. THERE IS SUBPOENA
AUTHORITY PURSUANT TO A B 1185
COUNTY COUNCILS AND GRAND JURIES
ALREADY HAVE SUBPOENA POWERS.
AND I WOULD NOTE THAT THE
PREVIOUS VERSION OF THE ANALYSIS
ACKNOWLEDGED ANOTHER PROBLEM
WITH THIS BILL. THIS COMMISSION
OR THE COMMISSION'S CONTEMPLATED
BY THIS BILL, THEY WOULD
CONSIDER COMPLAINTS ALLEGING
PHYSICAL INJURY EVEN IN CASES
INVOLVING A LAWFUL ARREST AND
UNLAWFUL USE OF FORCE. THERE'S
NO REQUIREMENT THAT THERE BE
OFFICER MISCONDUCT OR EVEN AN
ALLEGATION OF OFFICER
MISCONDUCT, SO SOMEBODY GETS
HURT DURING THE PROCESS OF AN
ARREST THAT DEEMED LAWFUL,
LAWFUL USE OF FOREST. THAT
COMPLAINT COULD GO TO THIS
COMMISSION. SO FOR THE REASONS
STATED, ESPECIALLY BY MR PERRY,
WE ASKED FOR A NOTEBOOK. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU ANY OTHER
WITNESSES AND OPPOSITION PLEASE
LINE UP ON THE SIDE AND STATE
YOUR NAME ORGANIZATION IN
POSITION ONLY. CHAIR AND MEMBERS
JONATHAN FELDMAN ON PERHAPS THE
CALIFORNIA POLICE CHIEFS
ASSOCIATION AND OPPOSITION.
KARIN LANG ON BEHALF OF THE
FRESNO COUNTY BOARD OF
SUPERVISORS AND OPPOSITION. GOOD
MORNING, LIEUTENANT DELEON OF
THE RIVER, SO I KIND OF SHARE
HIS OFFICE ON BEHALF OF SHARE,
WHICH HAD BIANCO AND OPPOSITION.
MORNING MR. CHAIR, RYAN SHERMAN
WITH THE RIVERSIDE SHERIFF'S
ASSOCIATION AND OPPOSITION. ALSO
POLICE OFFICER ASSOCIATIONS.
ARCADIA BURBANK, CLAREMONT
CORONA, CORSETTI, FULLERTON,
MURRIETA. NEWPORT BEACH, NOVATO
PALACE FORTIES POMONA, RIVERSIDE
. SANTA ANA UPLAND, CALIFORNIA
RESERVE PEACE OFFICERS PLUS
COUNTY DEPUTY SHERIFF
ASSOCIATION AND MONITORY COUNTY
DEPUTY SHERIFF ASSOCIATION ON
OPPOSITION. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER
IS AN OPPOSITION. QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS FROM COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
IT'S RACE. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.
THE EARLIER WAS MENTIONED ABOUT
THAT THERE ARE PROCEDURES
ALREADY IN PLACE, AND
UNFORTUNATELY, SOME OF THOSE
HAVE NOT TAKEN CARE OF THE
ISSUES THAT WERE ADDRESSED BY
THE ASSEMBLY MEMBER. BUT FOR
THOSE MUNICIPALITIES THAT
ALREADY HAVE OVERSIGHT CIVILIAN
OVERSIGHT. I WOULD ASK THAT AS A
BILL MOVES FORWARD THAT THERE
MAY BE NOT A BLANKET EXEMPTION,
BUT THERE'LL BE CONSIDERATION
FOR THOSE WHO HAVE ALREADY
EXPANDED THE TIME AND THE MONEY
TO PUT TOGETHER CIVILIAN
OVERSIGHTS TO HAVE THOSE PUT IN
SOMEHOW INTO THE LANGUAGE. BUT
WITH THAT I WOULD MOVE THE BILL.
THANK YOU. MR LONNIE'S MR CHAIR.
YES I JUST HAVE SOME CLARIFYING
ISSUES WITH OUR QUESTION WITH
THE SPONSOR. AH! SO YOU
MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT
LEGISLATORS AND IN YOUR SPEECH
WAS THERE SOMETHING IN THE BILL
AND REGARDING THE LEGISLATORS IN
THAT BILL? I'M NOT SURE I
UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION ABOUT
LEGISLATORS AND VOTING AND
REPORTING. WHAT I WAS SAYING IS
THAT YOU SPEAKING TO MIKE,
PLEASE, WHAT I WAS SAYING IS
THAT THE VOTE ON THIS COMMITTEE
WILL BE REPORTED BY CABLE. TO
THEIR MEMBERSHIP WHO RESIDE IN
THE DISTRICTS, WHICH ARE
REPRESENTED BY THE ASSEMBLY
PEOPLE WERE ON THIS COMMITTEE.
OKAY? I WASN'T SURE THAT WAS
PART OF THE BILL OR NOT, OR OKAY
, AUTHOR. GOOD THANK YOU. THAT'S
NOT A PART OF THE BILL. OKAY,
THANK YOU. YEAH I TO SUPPORT
THIS BILL. YOU MENTIONED THE
BILL ON OVERSIGHT FOR THE
ATTORNEY GENERAL TO DO OFFICER
INVOLVED SHOOTINGS OF UNARMED
CIVILIANS. WE ALSO WORK TO HAVE
OVERSIGHT FOR SHERIFFS.
DEPARTMENTS WERE SOME OF THE
LOCAL JURISDICTIONS WERE STILL
IN WALLING OR NOT ALLOWING THAT
TO HAPPEN. I THINK MORE
TRANSPARENCY IS A GOOD THING. I
STILL THINK YOU HAVE A LOT OF
WORK TO DO AND SORTING OUT SOME
OF THE PRE EXISTING, UM,
AGENCIES THAT HAVE THESE SOME OF
THE SMALLER JURISDICTIONS AND
COSTS AND SO FORTH. BUT THAT'S
YOUR WORK AHEAD IN THE FOLLOWING
COMMITTEES, AND I TRUST THAT YOU
WILL BE WORK HARD DOING JUST
THAT. WITH THAT. I SUPPORT THIS.
UM THIS MEASURE WE HAVE A
MOTION. FROM FROM THIS REYES
SECOND THAT PLEASE CALL THE ROLL
YOU'D LIKE TO CLOSE. WELL FIRST,
I WANT TO THANK THE COMMITTEE
CHAIR AND COMMITTEE STAFF FOR
WORKING WITH MY STAFF AND
SPONSORS ON THIS BILL. I WANT TO
THANK UM ALL THE MEMBERS FOR
THEIR, UM QUESTIONS AND
SUGGESTIONS. THOSE WHO CAME AND
SUPPORT AND OF COURSE, THOSE WHO
CAME AND OPPOSITION. WE HAVE
BEEN IN COMMUNICATION AND
DISCUSSION AND I'M LISTENING.
AND I HEAR ALL OF THEM AND YOU
KNOW WHAT WE ULTIMATELY WANT TO
DO IS TO CREATE SOMETHING THAT
WORKS FOR EVERYONE. AND UM,
ACKNOWLEDGING THE FACT THAT YES,
LOCAL GOVERNMENTS DO HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITY AT THIS POINT TO SET
UP THEIR OWN POLICE OVERSIGHT
COMMISSION IF THEY SO CHOOSE TO
PRIOR TO COMING HERE. I WAS ON A
LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND FROM A
RESIDENT STANDPOINT, IT IS
EXTREMELY HARD AT TIMES TO GET
THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT TO MOVE TO
CREATE SUCH A BOARD FOR A
VARIETY OF DIFFERENT REASONS. UM
AND ONE HAS TO DO WITH COST AND
THIS PARTICULAR BILL WOULD
REMOVE THAT BECAUSE OF THE
GLOBAL GOVERNMENT COULDN'T PAY
IT SINCE IT BE A STATE MANDATE.
UM THE STATE WOULD STEP IN AND
HELP OUT. BUT I CAN REMEMBER
FROM MY CITY HOW HARD IT WAS FOR
US TO GET OUR COUNCIL TO MOVE TO
ACTUALLY ESTABLISH A POLICE
OVERSIGHT COMMISSION AND
UNFORTUNATELY THEY ONLY MOVED
AFTER OUR CITY HAD A RIOT DUE TO
A SITUATION THAT HAPPENED WITH
OUR POLICE. OUR BUSINESSES WERE
BURNED. PEOPLE GOT SIGNIFICANTLY
INJURED AND OUR CITY HAD TO PAY
OUT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. WHICH
WOULD NOT NECESSARILY HAVE HAD
TO BE IN THE CASE IF THE COUNCIL
HAD MOVED A LOT EARLIER. I ALSO,
UM YOU KNOW, WE DID A LOT OF
WORK. SENATOR BRADFORD DID A LOT
OF WORK ON SB TWO. AND I WAS A
CO AUTHOR OF THAT, AND I'M VERY
GRATEFUL THAT PEOPLE WERE ABLE
TO COME TOGETHER TO CREATE THAT
BILL AND GET IT SIGNED BY THE
GOVERNOR. BUT THERE IS A
DIFFERENCE BECAUSE THE THAT
THOSE ARE STATEWIDE APPOINTED
MEMBERS, NOT LOCAL MEMBERS, AND
SO THERE MAY BE SOMEBODY IN YOUR
COMMUNITY, A SITUATION THAT IS
IN YOUR COMMUNITY THAT IS NOT
REPRESENTED ON THE POST
COMMISSION. AND SO IT IS
IMPORTANT THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT
LOCAL PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO HAVE
INPUT ON THE SAFETY AND THEIR
COMMUNITIES TO CONTINUE TO
CREATE TRUST SO THAT COMMUNITIES
AND POLICE WORK TOGETHER. AND SO
THANK YOU, EVERYONE. AND WITH
THAT, I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
YOUR I VOTE. THANK YOU. WE HAVE
A MOTION A SECOND. PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL ON A B 797 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S WEBER. THE
MOTION IS DUE PASS TO THE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE.
MCCARTY MCCARTY, I ELONIS NÓ
ZUBER. LACKEY. WHEN REYES.
REYES. AYE, GIBSON. WILSON.
THAT'S YOUR CYCLE. THANK YOU.
THAT MEASURE IS ON CALL THAT
DISPENSES WITH ALL OF THE
AUTHORS HERE WE NOW WILL. YOU
CAN LIFT THE CALLS AND WAIT FOR
ADD ONS. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY
WHO'S HERE WASN'T HERE. THAT'S
RIGHT. WAS HE HERE FOR
EVERYTHING. ON THE CONSENT
CALENDAR. REYES RAISE AYE.
TAKE YOUR TIME.
ME TOO. UNLESS IT'S WITH A GOOD
TIME. I MEAN, I MEAN THAT, BUT
THAT DID NOT SOUND THAT WAY.
WHEN ENOUGH FOR HER TO COME AND
TELL ME YOU'RE SORRY.
DOES SHE WANT TO DO?
AN ITEM NUMBER 10, MAYBE 1260 BY
SOME MEMBER JOE PATTERSON, MISS
REYES. MISS REYES, THOUGH
CHANGED FROM NOT VOTING TO, AYE.
FILLING OUT PASSES. OKAY MR
PATTERSON'S MEASURE PASSES WE
WILL STILL HOLD THAT. OPEN FOR
ADD ONS.
OF COURSE.
ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR. GIBSON
GIBSON. AYE. I DON'T WANT YOU,
UM DONE, MR. UM. ITEM NUMBER
TWO, ABC 797 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
WEBER GIBSON. GIBSON I THIS
MEASURE REMAINS ON CALL. ITEM
NUMBER THREE. YOU HAVE VOTED ON
ITEM NUMBER FOUR. YOU HAVE VOTED
ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE. THIS
MEASURE IS ON CALL A B 1047 BY A
SIMILAR MEMBER MAIENSCHEIN.
GIBSON GIBSON. AYE. THAT MEASURE
REMAINS ON CALL. ITEM NUMBER SIX
WAS ON CONSENT ITEM NUMBER SEVEN
WAS PULLED BY THE AUTHOR. ITEM
NUMBER EIGHT. ASSEMBLY BILL 329,
BY SOME REMEMBER TAUGHT. THIS
MEASURE IS ON CALL GIBSON. BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S TONG. GIBSON.
AYE. THIS MEASURE REMAINS ON
CALL ITEM NUMBER NINE, ABC 758
BY SOME REMEMBER DIXON. THIS
MEASURE IS ALSO ON CALL
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S GIBSON YES. BUY
ASSEMBLE. GIBSON. AYE. ITEM
NUMBER 10, MAYBE 1260 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S JOE PATTERSON.
GIBSON GIBSON. AYE.
IT'S JOHN PUBLIC SCENE.
THAT'S TOTALLY.
I HAVE TO GO WHERE HE'S ACTUALLY
WAITING. IN THE SAME THE SAME
COMMITTEE. GOT THROUGH THIS. ON
ITEM NUMBER ONE A. B 667 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S MAIENSCHEIN.
THIS MEASURE IS ON CALL COLONIES
ALANIS. AYE. WHEN I THAT MEASURE
PASSES. AN ITEM NUMBER TWO A B
797 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S WEBER.
THIS MEASURE IS ON CALL WHEN
WE'RE NOT VOTING. THAT MEASURE
REMAINS ON CALL. I DON'T NUMBER
THREE MISS NGUYEN HAS ALREADY
VOTED ITEM NUMBER FOUR. MAYBE
1039 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
RODRIGUEZ. WHEN I. ITEM NUMBER
FIVE, MAYBE 1047 BY SIMILAR
MEMBER MAIENSCHEIN. WHEN I THAT
MEASURE NOW PASSES. ITEM NUMBER
SIX WAS ON CONSENT TO NUMBER
SEVEN WAS PULLED BY THE AUTHOR.
ITEM NUMBER EIGHT A B 329 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S TAUGHT THIS
MEASURE WAS ON CALL WHEN NOT
VOTING. COMING THROUGH. FEELS I
DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO. MAYBE
3 TO 9 BY SIMILAR MEMBER TODD.
THAT MEASURE FAILS. ITEM NUMBER
NINE, ABC 758 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S DIXON. THIS
MEASURE IS ON CALL WHEN I THAT
MEASURE REMAINS ON CALL. ITEM
NUMBER 10, MAYBE 1260 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S JOE PATTERSON.
WHEN I.
GO THROUGH THEM ALL, JUST TO
ENSURE.
ITEM NUMBER ONE A. B 667 BY A
SUMMARY MEMBER MAIENSCHEIN
ZIPPER. I. ITEM NUMBER TWO A B
797 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S WEBER.
THIS MEASURE IS ON CALL SUBURB
I, ER I THAT MEASURE REMAINS ON
CALL. ITEM NUMBER 3 89 77 BY
SEMI MEMBER RODRIGUEZ ZABAR
SUPER. AYE. ITEM NUMBER FOUR,
MAYBE 1039 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
RODRIGUEZ ZABAR SUPER. AYE. ITEM
NUMBER FIVE BY ASSEMBLY MEMBER
UM, MAYBE 1047 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S MAIENSCHEIN
ZIPPER ZIPPER? AYE. ITEM NUMBER
SIX WAS ON CONSENT. ITEM NUMBER
SEVEN WAS PULLED BY THE AUTHOR.
ITEM NUMBER EIGHT. MAYBE 3 TO 9
BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S TALK. THE.
SUBIR VOTING, NOT VOTING. ITEM
NUMBER NINE A B 1758 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S DIXON. UH,
ZIPPER. NOT VOTING, NOT VOTING.
MEASURE ASSEMBLY MEMBER. DIXON'S
MEASURE NUMBER 8750 A B 758 THAT
MEASURE US. ITEM NUMBER 10,
MAYBE 1260 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
JOE PATTERSON. ZIPPER ZIPPER?
AYE. YES. NO, I'M DONE. JUST
CHATTING ABOUT SO I DID. I DID
TALK. CHRISTINA.
SO, UM YES. WITH A SOUND.
OF COURSE. ITEM NUMBER ONE A B
667 BY A SIMILAR MEMBER,
MAIENSCHEIN LACKEY, NOT VOTING
LACKEY NOT VOTING. ITEM NUMBER
TWO A. B 797 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
WEBER. THIS MEASURE IS ON CALL
LACKEY. NO, MA'AM. LUCKY. NO.
THIS MEASURE REMAINS ON CALL.
WE RECENTLY THANK YOU. WE'RE
GOING TO RECESS FOR ABOUT 15
MINUTES WAITING FOR, UH, SEVERAL
MEMBERS TO COME BACK TO ADD ON
THANK YOU.
OKAY WE WILL RECONVENE AND LIFT
THE CALL IN A FEW MORE MEASURES.
ITEM NUMBER TWO A B 797 BY
ASSEMBLY MEMBER WEBER. THIS
MEASURE WAS ON CALL WILSON
WILSON. AYE. OKAY, THAT MEASURE
PASSES. THIS CONCLUDES TODAY'S
HEARING WITH THAT WE ARE
ADJOURNED. THANK YOU. IT'S MINE.
OKAY, STUFF.