GOOD EVERYONE. WELCOME TO THE
FIRST HEARING OF THE YEAR FOR
LOCAL GOVERNMENT. REALLY HAPPY
TO BE HERE BACK IN SESSION AND
WORKING WITH ALL OF YOU MEMBERS
AND RETURNING MEMBERS. I WOULD
LIKE TO REMIND THE PUBLIC THAT
FOR THIS AND FUTURE HEARINGS,
TESTIMONY WILL BE IN PERSON. AS
WE ARE NO LONGER USED IN MORE
THAN READY TELEPHONE SERVICE. WE
ALSO ACCEPT WRITTEN TESTIMONY
THROUGHOUT THE POSITION LETTER
PORTAL ON THE COMMITTEE'S
WEBSITE. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO GO
OVER SOME OUR SOME OF OUR GROUND
RULES FOR APPROPRIATE CONDUCT.
THE ASSEMBLY HAS EXPERIENCED A
NUMBER OF DISRUPTIONS TO
COMMITTEE AND FOR PROCEEDINGS IN
THE LAST FEW YEARS. CONDUCT THAT
DISRUPTS DISTURBS OR OTHERWISE
IN BUSY, ORDERLY CONDUCT,
OVERHEARING IS PROHIBITED. SUCH
CONDUCT MAY INCLUDE. TALKING OR
MAKING LOVE NOISES FROM THE
AUDIENCE. I DON'T ALLOWED
THREATENING OR ABUSIVE LANGUAGE.
SPEAKING LONGER THAN THE TIME
ALLOTTED. EXTENDED DISCUSSION OF
MODERN NOT RELATED TO THE
SUBJECT OF THE HEARING OR THE
BILL. AND ANY OTHER DISRUPTIVE
ACTS. TO ADDRESS UNIT DISRUPTIVE
CONDUCT WOULD I WILL TAKE THE
FOLLOWING STEPS. IF AN
INDIVIDUAL DISRUPTS OUR HEARING
PROCESS, I WILL DIRECT THEM TO
STOP. AND WARNED HIM THAT
CONTINUED DISRUPTION MAY RESULT
IN REMOVAL FROM THE CAPITOL
BUILDING. I WILL ALSO DOCUMENT
ON THE RECORD. THE INDIVIDUAL
INVOLVED IN THE NATURE OF THE
DISRUPTION, DISRUPTIVE CONDUCT.
I MAY TEMPORARY RESIST THE
HEARING. EITHER CONDUCT DOES NOT
STOP. I WILL REQUEST THE
ASSISTANCE OF THE SERGEANTS IN
THE SCORING INDIVIDUAL FROM THE
CAPITOL BUILDING. I WOULD LIKE
TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO
WELCOME NEW MEMBERS AND STOP TO
THE COMMITTEE. ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
WELCOME. NOT HERE YET. WELCOME
BACK. SHE IS A RETURNING TO THE
COMMITTEE AS A VICE CHAIR OF THE
COMMITTEE. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO
WELCOME ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S SALIH.
WHO IS ABSENT TODAY. AND
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S CHOLERA WORD TO
THE COMMITTEE. IS IT? CONGRESS
HERE? WELCOME FORWARD TO WORKING
WITH YOU AND MR WARD NOT HERE
YET, BUT HE'LL BE HERE
HOPEFULLY. AND AGAIN LOOK
FORWARD TO WORKING, WHICH IN
EVERY ONE OF YOU WELCOME BACK.
PLEASE ALSO LET ME TO INTRODUCE
LINDA RIOS. RUS CONSULTANT.
WELCOME LINDA LOVE TO HAVE YOU
HERE? AND FINALLY, I WOULD LIKE
TO WELCOME CLAIRE NORTON. SHE'S
NOT HERE YET, BUT SHE WILL BE AH
, CLAIRE NORTON IS MY ASSEMBLY
FELLOW WHO WILL ALSO BE TAKEN ON
SOME CONSULTANT DUTIES THIS
YEAR. TÔI TÌM SABINE PULLED FROM
TODAY'S AGENDA. MAYBE 1000
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S REYES. AND I
WOULD LIKE TO OFFER A FEW
COMMENTS AND I'LL BE 1000, WHICH
WAS PULLED FROM TODAY'S HEARING.
I WOULD LIKE TO START BY
ACKNOWLEDGING ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
RADIUS FOR HER WORK ON THE BILL.
AND THE ELEVATING OF THE VOICE
OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS IN HER
DISTRICT. I APPRECIATE THE
INVITATION TO VISIT HER DISTRICT
LAST MONTH. AND TO HEAR FEAR
SHINE ABOUT THE IMPACTS THE
LOGISTICS USE INDUSTRY HAS HAD
ON HER COMMUNITY. IT IS CLEAR
THAT A PROBLEM IS MULTIFACETED
IN ANY PROPOSED SOLUTION WILL
NEED TO BE MULTIFACETED AS WELL.
I THINK ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S RADIUS
FOR HER MANY YEARS OF DEDICATED
WORK ON THIS POLICY AND FOR HER
COMMITMENT TO CONTINUE WORKING
ON THIS IMPORTANT ISSUE. AND I
LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING ON A
SOLUTION MOVING FORWARD. ON THAT
ISSUE THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP.
ITEM NUMBER THREE A B 1090 BY
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S JOHN SAWYER IS
THE SECOND ITEM THAT WAS PULLED
FROM THE AGENDA. WE WILL BE
HEARING ONE REMAINING ITEM ON
THE AGENDA. ITEM ONE A. B, A 17
BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S PACHECO. WE
WILL TAKE TWO PRIMARY WITNESSES
IN SUPPORT AND HAVE TO DO
PRIMARY WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION.
THIS WITNESSES WILL HAVE THREE
MINUTES EACH TO PROVIDE THEIR
TESTIMONY. ALL SUBSEQUENT
WITNESSES SHOULD STAY THERE NAME
THE ORGANIZATION AND THEIR
POSITION ON THE BILL ONLY LOOKS
LIKE WE HAVE A QUORUM NOW. UM.
SECRETARY PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
KOREA PRESIDENT PRESENT,
WALDRON. SALLY. HANEY. ANY
PRESIDENT KALRA PRESIDENT JACOB
CHICO, PRESIDENT RAMOS. RAMOS
PRESIDENT AWARD WELL, SIR, PRESS
IT. THANK YOU, MINISTER TERRY.
JUST KIDDING. I CAN BRING THIS
WAY.
LIKE THIS ONE THAT I CAN. THANK
YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON, MR CHAIR
AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE
TODAY I AM HERE TO PRESENT
ASSEMBLY BILL 817. I WANT TO
START BY THANKING THE COMMITTEE
STAFF FOR THEIR WORK ON THIS
BILL, AND TODAY I WILL BE
ACCEPTING THE COMMITTEE
AMENDMENT OF ADDING THE JANUARY
1ST 2026 SUNSET. YOU ALSO HAVE
MY COMMITMENT, MY COMMITMENT
THAT I AM WILLING TO LINE A B
817 WITH WITH ALL THE
TELECONFERENCING REQUIREMENTS
ESTABLISHED IN SENATE BILL 544.
THAT APPLIED TO ADVISORY BODIES
IN THE FUTURE. A B 817 IS A
SIMPLE BILL THAT DOES JUST ONE
MAIN THING. IT REDUCES BARRIERS
TO ENTRY FOR CIVIC
PARTICIPATION. OPENING THE
PIPELINE TO PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT
AND FUTURE ELECTED OFFICE TO
INCLUDE MUCH MORE DIVERSE AND
INCLUSIVE VARIETY OF
CALIFORNIANS. A B 817 ACHIEVES
THIS BY ALLOWING NON DECISION
MAKING ADVISORY ONLY BODIES AT
THE LOCAL LEVEL TO PARTICIPATE
REMOTELY WITHOUT POSTING THEIR
LOCATION FOR PUBLIC ACCESS,
WHILE MAINTAINING PUBLIC ACCESS
AND TRANSPARENCY IN GOVERNANCE.
THROUGH REQUIRING THE USE OF TWO
WAY AUDIO VISUAL TECHNOLOGY FOR
ALL MEETINGS. YOU DON'T
UTILIZING THIS AUTHORITY. THE
GOAL IS TO BRING PARITY AMONG
THE NEW STATE STANDARDS FOR
ADVISORY BODIES AND FOR NON
DECISION MAKING ADVISORY BODIES.
WITH ME TODAY TO TESTIFY AND
SUPPORT OF A B 817 IS JANEY WHAT
WHITE FURRED, PRESIDENT OF THE
CALIFORNIA I H S S CONSUMER
ALLIANCE AND AS A MEMBER OF THE
SANTA CLARA I. H S S ADVISORY
COMMITTEE. I ALSO HAVE HERE WITH
US SUPERVISOR EDDIE CRANDALL.
DISTRICT THREE LAKE COUNTY
SUPERVISOR. HE'S HERE ON BEHALF
OF THE RURAL COUNTY
REPRESENTATIVES OF CALIFORNIA.
I'M WILL NOW HAND IT OVER TO MY
WITNESSES. THANK YOU. GOOD
AFTERNOON CHAIR CARILLO AND
MEMBERS. THANK YOU FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT TO THIS
COMMITTEE TODAY. MY NAME IS
JANEY WHITE FORD AND I AM PART
OF A COALITION OF OLDER ADULTS
AND DISABILITY ADVOCATES WHO
SUBMITTED A LETTER OF SUPPORT ON
THIS BILL. I ALSO CURRENTLY SIT
ON THE IN HOME. SUPPORTIVE
SERVICES, I H S S ADVISORY
COMMITTEE AND SANTA CLARA COUNTY
AND THEN THE CURRENT PRESIDENT
OF SIKA, CALIFORNIA I H S S
CONSUMER ALLIANCE, A STATE
STATEWIDE MEMBER ORGANIZATION OF
COUNTY I H S S ADVISORY
COMMITTEES AND GOVERNING BOARDS.
WE CURRENTLY HAVE 26 COUNTIES AS
MEMBERS. THE COALITION STRONGLY
SUPPORTS A B H 17. AS IT
PROVIDES EQUITY INCLUDE, AND
INCLUSION THAT IS CURRENTLY
MISSING IN TWO WAYS. CIVIC
ENGAGEMENT PROCESSES FOR OLDER
ADULTS AND PEOPLE WITH
DISABILITIES TO HAVE THEIR
VOICES HEARD ON CRITICAL ISSUES
THAT IMPACT THEIR QUALITY OF
LIFE. AS CALIFORNIA'S MASTER
PLAN ON AGING ARTICULATES WE
NEED TO CREATE COMMUNITIES WHERE
PEOPLE OF ALL AGES AND ABILITIES
ARE ENGAGED, VALUED AT AFFORDED
EQUITABLE OPPORTUNITIES TO
THRIVE. A B H 17 ALIGNS WITH
THIS IMPORTANT POLICY OBJECTIVE.
DESPITE THE FACT THAT OUR
ADVISORY BODY IS NON DECISION
MAKING. CURRENT LAW PUTS MEMBERS
OF MY COMMUNITY AT RISK. BY
PROVIDING ONLY TWO AUCTIONS.
EITHER WE MUST PARTICIPATE IN
PERSON. OR WE CAN PARTICIPATE
REMOTELY AND ALLOW THE PUBLIC
ACCESS TO OUR HOMES REGARDLESS
OF HOW COMPROMISING AND
POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS THIS COULD
BE TO OUR HEALTH AND SAFETY.
THIS DOES NOT MEET THE DESIRED
THRESHOLD OF THE LEGISLATURE'S
DECLARED GOALS FOR EQUAL ACCESS
AND EQUAL PURCHASE, PATIENT AND
OPPORTUNITY AND CIVIC
LEADERSHIP. THIS BILL ALSO
SUPPORTS THE AMERICANS WITH
DISABILITY ACT. BY ALLOWING A
REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION. BY
MEETING REMOTELY FOR PEOPLE WHO
WOULD NEED TO TRAVEL HOURS EACH
WAY TO ATTEND IN PERSON WHO MAY
NOT BE ABLE TO DO SO. CALIFORNIA
IS A HUGE STATE. AND MOST
COUNTIES HAVE A LARGE GEOGRAPHIC
AREA. AND MEMBERS FIND IT VERY
DIFFICULT, IF NOT IMPOSSIBLE TO
ATTEND MEETINGS. SO THEY SIMPLY
DO NOT SERVE. UM OR ON THESE
IMPORTANT COMMITTEES. AND THESE
COMMITTEES DO NOT MEET BECAUSE
OF QUORUM CANNOT BE MET DUE TO
THE IN PERSON MEETING
REQUIREMENT. DURING THE PANDEMIC
WHEN THE GOVERNOR SUSPENDED THE
BROWN ACT REQUIREMENTS AND
COMMITTEES AND COMMISSIONS WERE
MEETING VIRTUALLY WE REALIZED
HOW EFFECTIVE. THIS WAS AND HOW
WE COULD FULFILL OUR OBLIGATIONS
AND DUTIES AND A MUCH EASIER YET
EFFECTIVE MANNER. AND MADE IT
EASIER TO ESTABLISH A QUORUM.
AND TO HAVE REPRESENTATION THAT
CAPTURES THE FULL SCOPE OF LIVED
EXPERIENCE AND DESIRED IN SIGHT.
MOST IMPORTANTLY, VIRTUAL
MEETINGS GREATLY OPEN UP THE
ABILITY FOR SENIORS AND PERSONS
WITH DISABILITIES TO PARTICIPATE
AND REPRESENT THEIR COMMUNITIES,
THEREBY INCREASING CITIZENSHIP.
AND SANTA CLARA COUNTY ON MY
IDEAS AS ADVISORY COMMITTEE ONE
OF OUR MEMBERS RESIGNED BECAUSE
THERE I JUST S PROVIDER DID NOT
DRIVE AND SHE TOOK PARA TRANSIT.
IT WOULD TAKE HER SIX HOURS
TOTAL BACK AND FORTH. TO COME TO
OUR MEETINGS. NOT FEASIBLE. SHE
WAS VERY ENGAGED MEMBER AND WILL
BE GREATLY MISSED. AND RIVERSIDE
COUNTY, A MEMBER OF THEIR
ADVISORY COMMITTEE, WHO HAS A
SIGNIFICANT DISABILITY AND LIVES
IN THE DESERT MUST TAKE AN
AMBIENCE TO TYPE TRANSPORT TO
MEETINGS. THIS COST $250 EACH
WAY. HOW UNNECESSARY. AND RURAL
COUNTIES AND VERY LARGE AREAS
SUCH AS SAN BERNARDINO COUNTY.
IT CAN TAKE A HALF DAY TO GET TO
A MEETING SITE. IT IS THE RARE
CITIZEN. WHO WILL DO THIS, AND
THERE'S AN IMPOSSIBLE BAR TO
SET. FOR THE PUBLIC TO HAVE A
VOICE. PUT SIMPLY THE CURRENT
BROWN, EH, CLAUSE CREATE AN
UNACCEPTABLE STANDARD FOR CIVIC
ENGAGEMENT FROM MEMBERS OF THE
PUBLIC. WE WANT TO PROVIDE
NEEDED AND VALUABLE INPUT TO
THEIR LOCAL COMMUNITIES. AS A
STATE THAT VALUES DIVERSITY,
EQUITY AND INCLUSION AREA
OPPORTUNITIES AS MUCH AS
CALIFORNIA DOES. WE MUST DO
BETTER. FOR THESE REASONS AND
MANY MORE ANECDOTES WE COULD
SHARE. WE REQUEST FELI. REQUEST
YOUR SUPPORT FOR A B 817 THANK
YOU. BEFORE WE GO TO THE SECOND
PRIMARY WITNESS. I WANNA
ACKNOWLEDGE MR CHRIS WORK JUST
JOINED US. WELCOME TO YOUR LOCAL
GOVERNMENT. JUST FOR THE RECORD.
THANK YOU. PLEASE. SECOND
PARAMETER WITNESS ALRIGHT? GOOD
AFTERNOON CHAIR AND ESTEEM
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. MY NAME IS
EDDIE CRANDALL, AND I AM THE
DISTRICT THREE SUPERVISOR FOR
LAKE COUNTY. I'M HERE ON BEHALF
OF THE RURAL COUNTY
REPRESENTATIVES IN CALIFORNIA. A
B 817 IS AN EQUITY AND INCLUSION
BILL THAT WOULD DIVERSIFY PUBLIC
PARTICIPANT. PUBLIC
PARTICIPATION AND THE INPUT
LOCAL DECISION MAKING BODIES
RECEIVED. BY PROVIDING A NARROW
EXEMPTION UNDER THE BROWN ACT
FOR MEMBERS OF NON DECISION
MAKING ADVISORY BODIES TO
PARTICIPATE VIA TWO WAY VIRTUAL
TELECONFERENCING WITHOUT POSTING
THEIR PHYSICAL LOCATION.
ADVISORY BODIES PROVIDE
IMPORTANT RECOMMENDATIONS AND
FEEDBACK TO THEIR ELECTED
DECISION MAKERS SUCH AS MYSELF.
ON VARIOUS ISSUES SO THAT THE
FULL BODY CAN THEN DELIBERATE
AND TAKE ACTION WITH THE BEST,
MOST COMPREHENSIVE INPUT. THAT
IS POSSIBLE. ONLY ADVISORY
BODIES THAT DO NOT MAKE
DECISIONS, BUT MERELY PROVIDE
RECOMMENDATIONS TO DECISION
MAKERS ARE COVERED UNDER THIS
BILL. LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ACROSS
THE STATE HAVE FACED AN ONGOING
CHALLENGE TO RECRUIT AND RETAIN
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ON
ADVISORY BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS
AND BODIES. AND OFTEN, THE
VOICES AT THE TABLE DO NOT
INCLUDE THOSE WHO ARE
REPRESENTATIVE OF THE COMMUNITY
OF INTEREST FOR WHICH THE
DECISIONS THAT WILL IMPACT MOST
THE IN PERSON REQUIREMENT TO
PARTICIPATE IN LOCAL ADVISORY
BODIES PRESENTS A
DISPROPORTIONATE CHALLENGE FOR
THOSE WITH PHYSICAL OR ECONOMIC
LIMITATIONS, INCLUDING SENIORS,
PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES, SINGLE
PARENTS AND OR CARETAKERS.
ECONOMICALLY MARGINALIZED GROUPS
AND THOSE WHO LIVE IN RURAL
AREAS SUCH AS SUCH AS MY COUNTY
AND FACE PROHIBITIVE DRIVING
DISTANCES AND LIMITED PUBLIC
TRANSIT. ADDITIONAL MEETING
FLEXIBILITIES PROVIDED MUCH
NEEDED PATHWAY FOR RESIDENTS TO
PARTICIPATE IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT
AND PROVIDES FOR INCREASED
DIVERSE COMMUNITY INPUT. MANY
COMMISSIONS REQUIRE
REPRESENTATION FROM PEOPLE WITH
LIVED EXPERIENCE. CERTAIN
GEOGRAPHICAL REGIONS OR
PROFESSIONAL BACKGROUNDS, WHERE
IN PERSON REQUIREMENTS MAKE
PARTICIPATING IN THESE ARE
CHALLENGED THE CHALLENGES. FOR
EXAMPLE, IN MY DISTRICT, I HAVE
THREE MUNICIPAL ADVISORY
COMMITTEES AND THEIR SIX
MUNICIPAL ADVISORY COMMITTEES IN
THE COUNTY. HALF OF THEM ARE IN
MY DISTRICT. UM, SINCE I'VE BEEN
THE SUPERVISOR, EAST REGION TOWN
HALL HAS HAD A HARD TIME FEELING
ONE POSITION, SO WE'VE HAD FOUR
AND A LOT OF THE FOLKS THAT ARE
APPLYING FOR THESE LIVE IN
DIFFERENT OR WORK IN DIFFERENT
COUNTIES AND HAVE A HARD TIME
COMING HOME. MY WEST REGION.
TOWN HALL IS COMPRISED OF SEVEN.
HOWEVER, THREE OF THE LAST TWO
YEARS HAVE HAD HAVE ACTUALLY HAD
TO GO TO THE DOCTOR QUITE
FREQUENTLY AND COULDN'T ATTEND
THE MEETINGS BUT COULD HAVE IN
THIS SCENARIO AND THE CENTRAL
REGION TOWN HALL IS ALWAYS
STRUGGLING WITH THE SPECIFIC
AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT WORK OUT
OF TOWN AS WELL. LIBRARY
ADVISORY BOARDS THAT WE HAVE OUR
STRUGGLE IN HOME SUPPORTIVE
SERVICES, PUBLIC AUTHORITY
ADVISORY BOARD COMMITTEES,
MENTAL HEALTH BOARDS AND SECTION
EIGHT RESIDENTS. ADVISORY BOARDS
PARTICIPATION IN LOCAL ADVISORY
BODIES ALSO ACTS AS AN ENTRY
POINT FOR GENT FOR GREATER CIVIC
ENGAGEMENT AND PATHWAY FOR
PUBLIC SERVICE. IN CONCLUSION. A
B 817 IS AN IMPORTANT AND NEEDED
MEASURE THAT PROTECTS ACCESS AND
TRANSPARENCY WHILE PROMOTING
EQUITY AND INCLUSION FOR THESE
REASONS. I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
YOUR VOTE. THANK YOU FOR THAT
TESTIMONY. ARE THERE ANY PRIMARY
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION TO THE
FIELD?
GOOD AFTERNOON, MR CHAIR.
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. UM
I'LL TRY AND KEEP IT BRIEF SINCE
WE ALREADY HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE
THE BILL. MY NAME'S BRITTANY
BARSA TÌM, A GENERAL COUNSEL
OVER THE CALIFORNIA NEWS
PUBLISHERS ASSOCIATION. WE'VE
BEEN INVOLVED IN A LOT OF BROWN
ACT BILLS OVER THE LAST SEVERAL
YEARS. UM AND I WAS STARTED BY
THINKING THE AUTHOR FOR YOUR
WORK, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO EXPAND
DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION ON THESE
BOARDS IS CRITICAL, RIGHT? LIKE
WE FULLY SUPPORT THOSE GOALS.
AND MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S X
EQUITABLE ACCESS. SO YOU KNOW
OUR CONCERNS WITH THE BILL ARE
SORT OF HOW IT IS TAILORED. IT
CREATES A NEW DEFINITION OF
BODIES UNDER THE BROWN ACT,
WHEREAS HISTORICALLY THE BEAUTY
BROWN ACTORS THEY HAD A PLACE TO
ALL BODIES EQUALLY. UM WE WOULD
ENCOURAGE THE AUTHOR TO CONSIDER
MOVING FORWARD WITH THE
STRUCTURE THAT APPEARED IN A B
2449, WHICH INCLUDED IN PERSON
QUORUM REQUIREMENT, UM AND
PERHAPS ADD IN CATEGORIES OF
JUST CAUSE, UM, THE IN PERSON
QUORUM REQUIREMENT WAS ONE OF
THE REASONS WE WERE ABLE TO
ACTUALLY REMOVE OUR OPPOSITION
TO 2449 AND THE ASSEMBLY MEMBER
ALSO BROUGHT UP SB 544. THAT
BILL ALLOWED MEMBERS WHO WERE
PARTICIPATING WITH AS A RESULT
OF A DISABILITY TO TELL COUNT
TOWARDS THE QUORUM IN PERSON
REQUIREMENT, AND WE ACTUALLY
SUPPORTED THAT AMENDMENT. UM SO,
UM, WITH THAT, I WILL
RESPECTFULLY URGE YOUR NO VOTE
BUT ALSO COMMIT TO CONTINUE TO
WORK WITH THE AUTHOR'S OFFICE TO
TRY AND FIND SOME RESOLUTION
HERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD
AFTERNOON, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS
CYNTHIA VALENCIA. I'M A
LEGISLATIVE ADVOCATE WITH THE
BLUE CALIFORNIA ACTION. WE ALSO
RESPECTFULLY YOU STILL REMAIN
OPPOSED TO THE CURRENT TEXT OF
THE SPILL. WE LARGELY AGREE WITH
THE POINTS MADE OF WANTING TO
DIVERSIFY BODIES, BUT WE BELIEVE
THAT ONLY MOVING TOWARDS UM, ACT
HAVING THESE VIRTUAL OPTIONS FOR
MEMBERS OF THE BODY IS NOT THE
BEST WAY TO MAKE BODIES MORE
DIVERSE. IT REALLY REQUIRES
PUBLIC OFFICIALS AND AGENCIES
COMMIT TO ROBUST OUTREACH TO
COMMUNITIES THAT HISTORICALLY
HAVE BEEN UNDERREPRESENTED TO
PROVIDE STIPENDS. TRAVEL
STIPENDS FOR UNPAID POSITIONS,
IMPLEMENT AN OPEN AND
TRANSPARENT SELECTION PROCESS
AND EXERCISE THE POLITICAL WILL
TO APPOINT MEMBERS FROM DIVERSE
BACKGROUNDS TO PUBLIC BODIES. WE
ALSO WANT TO. UM IT'S A AGREE
WITH WHAT MY COLLEAGUE HERE HAS
SAID, BUT MAYBE TWO FOR 49 THAT
JUST WENT INTO EFFECT LAST YEAR
HAS EXPANDED A LOT OF
OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE TO JOIN
REMOTELY, AND WE THINK THAT SOME
OF THE EXAMPLES THAT WERE USED
BY PEOPLE WHO GAVE TESTIMONY
COULD HAVE COULD USE WHAT'S
CURRENTLY IN LAW WITH A B 2449
TO HAVE ACCESS VIRTUALLY AND TO
REAFFIRM WHAT, UM, THE IN PERSON
FORUM FOR PEOPLE WITH
DISABILITIES. WHILE OUR THERE'S
AN IN PERSON QUORUM, PLUS PEOPLE
WITH DISABILITIES WHO JOINED
REMOTELY CAN BE COUNTED AS PART
OF THAT QUORUM WOULD
SIGNIFICANTLY CHANGED HOW WE
WOULD REVIEW THIS BILL, SO WE
ARE OPEN TO HEARING MORE FROM
THE OTHERS OFFICE AND HOPE THAT
WE CAN CONTINUE THIS DIALOGUE.
UM SO WE HAVE PUBLIC
TRANSPARENCY AND THAT PUBLIC
BUSINESS IS PERFORMED WITH THE
PUBLIC BEING ABLE TO ACCESS
THOSE WHO ARE REPRESENTING THEM.
SO FOR RIGHT NOW, AND THOSE
REASONS WE RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
YOUR NO VOTE. THANK YOU FOR THAT
BEFORE WE OPEN IT UP TO THE
PUBLIC TO MAKE COMMENTS. I'D
LIKE TO BUT FOR THE RECORD THAT
DEVICE SHARE, WALDRON HAS JOINED
US. WELCOME BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE LOCALLY, OVERMAN NICE
TO HAVE YOU BACK WITHOUT ANY
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WANTS
TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT. RAFEAL.
GOOD AFTERNOON, KYRA ROSS ON
BEHALF OF THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS
AND THE MARIN COUNTY COUNCIL OF
MAYORS AND COUNCIL MEMBERS IN
SUPPORT OF THE BILL. NICOLE
HERMAN ON BEHALF OF SAN
BERNARDINO COUNTY AND THE CITY
OF ONTARIO, AND SUPPORT CHRISLEY
WITH POLITICAL GROUP HERE ON
BEHALF OF THE SACRAMENTO AREA
COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS AND THE
COACHELLA VALLEY ASSOCIATION OF
GOVERNMENTS IN SUPPORT. KI¾M
ROTHSCHILD IN SUPPORT ON BEHALF
OF THE CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF
PUBLIC AUTHORITIES FOR IN HOME
SUPPORT SERVICES. GOOD
AFTERNOON, DEVON ANDERSON ON
BEHALF OF SAN MATEO COUNTY AND
SUPPORT AFTERNOON MR CHAIR JEAN
HURST HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF
THE URBAN COUNTIES OF
CALIFORNIA, CO SPONSOR OF THE
MEASURE, AS WELL AS THE BOARD OF
SUPERVISORS OF THE COUNTIES OF
SANTA BARBARA SANTA CRUZ IN
VENTURA, ALL IN SPORT. MR CHAIR
CHRIS MCKAY LI ON BEHALF OF THE
LOS ANGELES COUNTY METROPOLITAN
TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY IN
SUPPORT OF THE BILL. GOOD
AFTERNOON, KATE LATTICE CHAIR OF
THE YOLO COUNTY IN HOME
SUPPORTIVE SERVICES ADVISORY
COMMITTEE AND STEERING COMMITTEE
OF THE NONPARTISAN GOOD
GOVERNMENT GROUP CALLED
DEMOCRACY, WINTERS AND STRONG
SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
GOOD AFTERNOON. ALICE IS STILL
HIGH ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
ASSOCIATION OF RECREATION AND
PARK DISTRICTS OF CO SPONSOR OF
THE MEASURE, AND ALSO ON BEHALF
OF THE CITY CLERK'S ASSOCIATION
OF CALIFORNIA AND THE CITIES OF
BELMONT, CARLSBAD, SANTA ROSA
AND REDWOOD CITY. THANK YOU.
GOOD AFTERNOON, JONNY PENA WITH
THE LEGAL CALIFORNIA CITIES, UH,
SPONSOR OF THE BILL AND HIS
STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU. GOOD
AFTERNOON, ERIC LARA ON BEHALF
OF THE CALIFORNIA STATE
ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES ARE
PRESENTING ALL 58 COUNTIES AND
STRONG SUPPORT. GOOD AFTERNOON,
KAREN LAYING ON BEHALF OF THE
BOARDS OF SUPERVISORS IN THE
COUNTIES OF NAPA, SOLANO CINEMA,
MENDOCINO AND SAN JOAQUIN AND
SUPPORT THANK YOU. GOOD
AFTERNOON, DOROTHY JOHNSON. I'LL
BE HAPPY ASSOCIATION OF
CALIFORNIA SCHOOL ADMINISTRATORS
PLEASED TO SUPPORT. GOOD
AFTERNOON, MR CHAIR MATT
ROBINSON, WHICH TOGETHER AND HE
SMELLS AND LAYING ON BEHALF OF
THE SAME MATEO COUNTY CITY
COUNTY ASSOCIATION OF
GOVERNMENTS, OSAMA TE'O COUNTY
TRANSIT DISTRICT AND THE
CALIFORNIA TRANSIT TO
ASSOCIATION. EXCUSE ME ALL IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. GOOD
AFTERNOON, MR CHAIR AND MEMBERS
ANDREW ANTWI, WHICH ARE HARDER
AND TUITION, MOSER AND LANE HERE
ON BEHALF OF THE CITIES OF
GOLETA, WEST HOLLYWOOD, SANTA
MONICA IN LOS ANGELES, ALL IN
SUPPORT. GOOD AFTERNOON, STEVE
WALLACK ON BEHALF OF THE ALAMEDA
COUNTY TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION
, THE ALAMEDA CONTRA COSTA
TRANSIT DISTRICT, THE NAPA
VALLEY TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY
IN THE CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION
FOR COORDINATED TRANSPORTATION
AND SUPPORT. GOOD AFTERNOON, MR
CHAIRMAN MEMBERS MATTHEW
CYBERLINK ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF CLERKS
AND ELECTION OFFICIALS AND
SUPPORT THANK YOU. GOOD
AFTERNOON, MAX PERRY ON BEHALF
OF THE CITY OF SAN CARLOS OSMAN
SUPPORT GOOD AFTERNOON, MR CHAIR
AND MEMBERS GREGORY CRAMER ON
BEHALF OF DISABILITY RIGHTS,
CALIFORNIA AND SUPPORT JEFF
NEAL, WITH NIELSEN MERKSAMER,
REPRESENTING THE COUNTIES OF
CONTRA COSTA IN SAN DIEGO, ALSO
IN SUPPORT. HELLO CINDY PRAYERS
ON BEHALF OF YOUR LOW COUNTY AND
SUPPORT. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR AND
MEMBERS JASON NIAGARA ON BEHALF
OF THE CALIFORNIA MUNICIPAL
UTILITIES ASSOCIATION, ALSO IN
SUPPORT. GOOD AFTERNOON MARQUEE
SIEGE ON BEHALF OF THE LOS
ANGELES COUNTY BOARD OF
SUPERVISORS AND SUPPORT GOOD
AFTERNOON, MR CHAIR MEMBERS,
MARCUS DETWEILER WITH THE
CALIFORNIA SPECIAL DISTRICTS
ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT. ANYBODY
IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WANTS TO
COME UP IN OPPOSITION OF THE
BILL? BY PROXY FOR CALIFORNIA
COMMON CAUSE HOWARD JARVIS
TAXPAYERS ASSOCIATION AND FIRST
AMENDMENT COALITION IN
OPPOSITION. THANK YOU. DAVID
BOWL, AUGUST AND DOWN THE VALLEY
ALLIANCE IN OPPOSITION. THANK
YOU WITH THAT. I TAKE IT TO THE
COMMITTEE MEMBERS ANYBODY WANTS
TO MR COLORADO? THANK YOU, MR
CHAIR, AND I WANT TO THANK THE
AUTHOR FOR BRINGING THIS BILL
FORWARD AND WORKING WITH THE
COMMITTEE. UM I THINK THIS BILL
STRIKES DIFFICULT, BUT BUT I
THINK APPROPRIATE BALANCE. I
REALLY HAVE GREAT RESPECT FOR
THE OPPOSITION, THE NEWSPAPER
PUBLISHER'S ASSOCIATION AND THE
A C L U. I THINK THAT THE IT'S
IMPORTANT TO KIND OF HAVE THAT
VOICE. MAKING IT CLEAR TO US
THAT WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAUTIOUS
WHEN WHENEVER WE'RE LOOKING AT
THE BROWN ACT OR WHEN IT COMES
TO ACCESS WHEN IT COMES TO
PUBLIC ACCESS TO DECISIONS THAT
ARE BEING MADE, AND SO I DO
APPRECIATE IT. I KNOW KNOWING
THE OPPOSITION KNOWING THE
AUTHOR THAT THERE WILL STILL BE
CONSTRUCTIVE CONVERSATIONS
MOVING FORWARD. I DO WANT TO
THANK THE SUPERVISOR AND
CERTAINLY ONE THANK JENNY FROM
I. H S S FROM SENATOR COUNTY WHO
HAVE HAD THE PLEASURE OF WORKING
WITH AND MEETING WITH THE
ADVISORY COMMITTEE. AND, YOU
KNOW, I THINK THAT ONE OF THE
SILVER LININGS THE PANDEMIC, IT
DID SHOW THAT WE WERE ABLE TO
INCREASE PARTICIPATION FROM
PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES,
SENIORS WORKING CLASS FOLKS THAT
MAYBE DIDN'T OWN A CAR AND
COULDN'T JUST, YOU KNOW, GET TO
A MEETING WITHOUT GOING ON A BUS
FOR AN HOUR TO GET THERE,
ESPECIALLY IN RURAL COMMUNITIES,
RIGHT? UM AND SO I THINK THAT WE
SHOULD LEARN FROM THOSE LESSONS
TO FIND APPROPRIATE
OPPORTUNITIES FOR THAT INCREASED
PARTICIPATION. THESE NON
DECISION MAKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW,
DECISION MAKING COMMITTEES
APPOINTEES, WHATEVER A LOT OF
THEM ARE ELECTED OFFICIALS OR
POLITICAL APPOINTMENTS. WHAT
HAVE YOU THE NON DISMISSED
DECISION MAKING ADVISORY
COMMITTEES, A PLACE SUCH A HUGE
ROLE IN ADVISING LOCAL
OFFICIALS. MANY OF US COME FROM
THAT ROLE. UM ARE SO CRITICAL
AND THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT IN
THESE ADVISORY COMMITTEES IS
WHERE YOU REALLY FIND PEOPLE ON
THE GROUND, NEIGHBORHOOD
LEADERS. COMMUNITY LEADERS
ADVOCATES THAT OTHERWISE
WOULDN'T HAVE. THEY'RE NOT ONLY
THEIR VOICE HEARD, BUT THEIR
SUGGESTIONS AND THOUGHTS AND
RECOMMENDATIONS STRONGLY
CONSIDERED AND TAKE INTO ACCOUNT
WHEN THE DECISION MAKERS
ACTUALLY HAVE TO VOTE ON POLICY
OR CREATE POLICY, SO THE FACT
THAT YOU STILL HAVE TO HAVE AN
AGENDA THAT SHOWS WHERE THE
TELECONFERENCING IS TAKING PLACE
AND HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR
WHERE SOME LOCATION FOR FOLKS TO
COME TO, UM, AND THE APPROPRIATE
SUGGESTION AND ACCEPTANCE OF THE
SUNSET DATE. SO YOU CAN TAKE A
LOOK. YOU KNOW OUR FEARS OR THE
FEARS THAT ARE BEING PUT FORWARD
TO THE IS THAT KIND OF ACTUALLY
THE REALITY OR WE'RE GONNA SEE
MORE DIVERSE PARTICIPATION. I
THINK THAT GIVES US A CHANCE TO
TAKE TAKE A LOOK AT IT. OVER THE
NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS, AND I
THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A
POSITIVE OUTCOME. SO FOR THAT. I
APPRECIATE THE OFFER FOR
BRINGING THIS FORWARD. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
WORD IN SOMEBODY ELSE WANTED TO
GO ON THIS SIDE ARE NOW OKAY.
GREAT. THANK YOU. MR CHAIR. ALSO
WANT TO THANK THE OFFERS OF
BRINGING THIS FORWARD. WE HAVE
BEEN HAVING CONVERSATIONS, I
THINK PRIOR TO YOUR JOINING US
ABOUT OTHER BODIES, HIGHER LEVEL
DECISION MAKING BODIES, AND I
THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE
LOOK AT THOSE PRINCIPLES AND
LOOK AT ALL OF THE NECESSARY
ELEMENTS FOR GOOD CIVIC
DISCUSSION. THAT GUY'S A LOT OF
THE DECISIONS THAT ULTIMATELY
COME TO BE. UM I WHEN I'M
LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE 20
TO 2449 OR OTHERS. I HAD
RESERVATIONS AND INITIALLY
PROPOSED THAT BECAUSE OF I
THOUGHT, WHAT MIGHT BE EITHER
ABUSE WOULD BE A STRONG WORD.
BUT MAYBE YOU KNOW, OVER
UTILIZATION IS SOMETHING THAT'S
MEANT TO BE IN ACCOMMODATION.
AND SO I THINK THE IMPORTANT
WORK THAT WAS DONE TO BE ABLE TO
ACCOMMODATE A LOT OF THE
OPPOSITION'S POINTS AND
NEGOTIATIONS HELPED ME TO GET TO
A BETTER PLACE WHEN THAT
ACTUALLY CAME BACK BEFORE US.
BROOKE CONCURRENCE, SO I HOPE
THAT I RECOGNIZE ALREADY THE ARE
YOU ARE ACCEPTING THE COMMITTEE
AMENDMENTS. I'M SORRY TO MISS
YOUR INTRODUCTION. IS THAT
CORRECT? CORRECT THE COMMITTEE
AMENDMENTS OF THE SUNSET DATE
THE SUNSET DEAN AND THE SECOND
AND THEN THE SECOND ONE. WE WERE
GOING TO BE ALIGNING THIS BILL
WITH WITH A B 817. OKAY 17. I'M
SORRY. NOT ABC SENATE BILL 544
GOT IT SO THAT WOULD THEN RETAIN
A REQUIREMENT FOR A QUORUM OF
MEMBERS TO BE PHYSICALLY PRESENT
IN ONE LOCATION, SO IT WOULD
JUST IT WOULD BE FOR TELEPHONIC,
UH, TO ALLOW FOR, UH,
PARTICIPATION TO BE, UH, WITH I
BELIEVE TELECONFERENCING
REQUIREMENTS, SO IN OTHER WORDS,
THE PERSON WOULD HAVE TO HAVE
THERE'S LIKE REQUIREMENTS THAT
ARE PUTTING THAT BILL AS TO LIKE
TELECONFERENCING REQUIREMENTS,
SO TO HAVE YOUR CAMERA ON AND
JUST DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS, AND
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE
ALIGNING THIS BILL WITH THOSE
ARE THOSE ARE IMPORTANT. THE
IMPORTANT DESCRIPTIONS BUT
YOU'RE NOT TAKING THAT ONE OF
THE COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS TO
REQUIRE THE MAJORITY OF MEMBERS
TO PARTICIPATE FROM A SINGLE
QUORUM OF MEMBERS TO PARTICIPATE
FROM A SINGLE LOCATION THAT THAT
IS CORRECT. WE'RE NOT DOING THAT
AMENDMENT. OKAY UM, I DO THINK
THAT THAT IS ULTIMATELY
IMPORTANT BECAUSE, AND WE ARE
TAKING THE AMENDMENT TO REQUIRE
A LOCATION SO THERE WILL BE A
PHYSICAL LOCATION SO THAT PEOPLE
CAN ATTEND THE MEETING. SO THAT
WAY THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
ENGAGE. OKAY? I THINK WE WANT TO
HAVE THAT CONVERSATION ABOUT
MAYBE THE WAY WE USED TO DO
BUSINESS AND SORT OF WHAT WE'RE
DOING WITH LESSONS LEARNED IN
TODAY. TODAY'S EXPERIENCE IN
2024 AND YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW,
REGARDLESS PRE OR POST PANDEMIC,
AND WITH ALL THE NEW
TECHNOLOGIES AND ACCESSIBILITY
IS THAT WE HAVE. YOU KNOW, THERE
IS SOMETHING THAT IS HELPFUL TO
HAVE. THAT CENTRAL LOCATION, YOU
KNOW, BE THE GRAVITATION POINT
OF DISCUSSION. THERE IS A LOT
MORE THAT WE GET THROUGH
CONVERSATION HERE IN PERSON WITH
ACCESS TO STAFF AND WITH ACCESS
TO AUDIENCE SEPARATISM AND
PARTICIPATE IN THAT THAT THAT'S
PRESENT WHERE WE CAN. UM I THINK
I HAVE A MORE KIND OF ROBUST AND
SINCERE CONVERSATION IN THAT
CONTEXT. AND THEN ALLOWING FOR,
UM, WE'VE BEEN DOING IS TO
ACCOMMODATE MORE. AH AS DEFINED
THROUGH SOME OF THESE EXCEPTIONS
, SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU AS
THIS MOVES FORWARD TO LOOK AT
SOME OF THESE OTHER PROVISIONS
OF 2449 BECAUSE IT WAS THIS WEAK
SPOT THAT MOVED A LOT OF MEMBERS
DURING THIS DISCUSSION OVER THE
LAST SESSION. UM THAT I THINK
DON'T INHIBIT WHAT YOU ARE
TRYING TO DO FOR ACCOMMODATION.
UM, BUT REALLY NARROW IT IN A
WAY THAT KEEPS THE ORIGINAL
INTENT AND CHARACTER AND FEEL OF
THESE IMPORTANT DISCUSSIONS.
THESE ARE IMPORTANT DISCUSSIONS,
EVEN THOUGH THEIR ADVISORY NOT
DECISION MAKING IF YOU THINK
ABOUT POLICE REVIEW
CONVERSATIONS, LIBRARY
CONVERSATIONS, PARK AND REC
BOARD, UM YOU KNOW, MOBILITY. UH
ADVISORIES QUESTIONS. YOU KNOW
THESE? THESE ARE ALL CRITICAL
COMPONENTS OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT,
UM, FUNCTIONS THAT REALLY
ORIGINATE FROM THESE DISCUSSIONS
, AND SO IT IS HELPFUL FOR
GENERALLY MOST OF THE PUBLIC TO
BE ABLE TO BE IN THAT ONE PLACE
AS A PART OF THAT SORT OF
ENVIRONMENTAL CHEMISTRY THAT WE
HAVE AS HUMANS CONVERSING WITH
EACH OTHER. SO WITH THAT SORT OF
HIS BACKGROUND, ALL YOU KNOW, BE
IN SUPPORT TODAY, UM, WITH YOUR
WITH YOUR COMMITMENT TO BE ABLE
TO CONTINUE TO LOOK AT SOME OF
THE PROVISIONS OF 2449 AS THE
CHILDREN FORWARD. AND I'M STILL
OPEN TO HAVING DISCUSSIONS WITH
OPPOSITION. SO THAT WON'T CEASE
THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
REMEMBER WORD. ANYBODY ELSE? NO.
WITHOUT ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S
PROJECT, COULD YOU CLOSING
STATEMENT, SO I JUST WANT TO
AGAIN? THANK ALL OF YOU FOR
HAVING ME PRESENT THIS BILL
BEFORE YOU TODAY. I RESPECTFULLY
ASK FOR MY VOTE. THANK YOU.
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S FOR YOUR WORK
AND YOUR STAFF ON THIS BILL. I
APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO
ACCEPT THE FIRST COMMITTEE
AMENDMENTS OUTLINE IN THE
ANALYSIS. DO WHAT A SUNSET DATE
CONSISTENT WITH POPULATED BILLS.
I BELIEVE THAT THERE WILL BE A
TREMENDOUS VALUE TO REVISIT AT
THE SAME TIME. THE MANY CHANGES
THAT HAVE BEEN MADE TO THE BROWN
ACT IN RECENT YEARS. SO I THANK
YOU FOR THAT. THANK YOU LIKE TO
EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION FOR YOUR
TIME ON THE MANY CONVERSATIONS
WE HAD ABOUT ADDITIONAL PROPOSED
AMENDMENTS. I BELIEVE WE HAVE
REACHED A COMPROMISE THAT ALLOWS
YOU TO ACHIEVE YOUR OBJECTIVE TO
PROVIDE MORE FLEXIBILITY FOR
LOCAL ADVISORY BODIES WHILE
MAINTAINING MANY OF THE AVENUES
FOR PUBLIC PARTICIPATION THAT
THE BROWN BAG WAS CREATED TO
PROTECT. I UNDERSTAND YOU WILL
BE WORKING ON FOR THE AMENDMENTS
THAT IT WAS JUST DISCUSSED TO
ALIGN YOUR BILL WITH PROVISION
OF SENATOR LAIRD'S SB 544. THAT
GOVERNMENT REMOTE PARTICIPATION
FOR THE STATE ADVISORY BODIES. I
WILL ALSO ASK THAT YOU CONTINUE
TO WORK WITH THIS COMMITTEE. ON
THIS AMENDMENT SO THAT I CAN
CONTINUE TO SUPPORT YOUR BILL AS
IT MOVES FORWARD. WITH THAT I
WILL BE VOTING AYE. THE MOTION
IS DO PASS THIS AMENDED
SECRETARY PLEASE CALL THE ROLL
KOREA. I WALDRON AND I AND SAY
IT'S A LI HANEY. PENNY. I KALRA.
COVER I BUT, CHICO, I RAMOS
RAMOS. I WARD BOARD. I WILSON.
WILSON. I. LITTLE BUILD MOVES ON
WITH AN 80. THANK YOU ALL FOR
BEING HERE. THANK YOU ALL FOR
BEING HERE TODAY. WELCOME BACK
TO THOSE RETURNING MEMBERS IS
WELCOME. WELCOME BACK TO LOCAL
GOVERNMENT AND THEN YOUR
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU ALL. THE VENUE. OKAY,
QUÊ. GREAT THE BILL IS SOUTH 80.
THANK YOU. THANKS. NICE TO MEET
YOU. OH, INSIDE. AND THE. SO WE
HAVE THE SAME ISSUE WITH RI.
YEAH OKAY.