GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYBODY. WE
WILL GET STARTED WITH OUR
ASSEMBLY BUDGETS OF COMMITTEE
NUMBER THREE ON EDUCATION
FINANCE. I AM CHAIR OF SOME
MEMBER DAVID ALVAREZ AND TODAY'S
HEARING WILL BE FOCUSED AROUND
ACCESS AS IS NOTICED IN THE
AGENDA, WHICH IS OUR HIGHEST
PRIORITY IN HIGHER EDUCATION.
UH, WE ALL KNOW HOW CRITICAL
HIGHER EDUCATION IS TO THE
STATE'S ECONOMY AND TO THE WELL
BEING OF FAMILIES THROUGHOUT THE
STATE. CALIFORNIA NEEDS MORE
WORKERS. THAT MEANS WE NEED MORE
DEGREES TO BE ISSUED IN AREAS
SUCH AS HEALTHCARE AND
EDUCATION. WE SEE THAT DEMAND
CONTINUES TO INCREASE AND
WORKERS WITH BACHELOR'S DEGREES,
AS WE KNOW STILL EARN MORE MONEY
THAN THOSE WHO DO NOT HAVE A
BACHELOR'S DEGREE 62% MORE THAN
THOSE WITH THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF
EDUCATION AS COMPARED TO A HIGH
SCHOOL DIPLOMA. WHILE WE HAVE
PUSHED FOR MORE ACCESS, I
BELIEVE THE STATE HAS HAD SOME
GAINS. ENROLLMENT TRENDS HAVE
VARIED ACROSS THE SYSTEMS, AND
THAT'S WHAT WE'LL BE DISCUSSING
TODAY. UM AT MOST OF ITS
CAMPUSES ARE REJECTING MORE THAN
HALF OF THEIR APPLICANTS. UH,
THIS IS A FRUSTRATING FOR A LOT
OF, UH, CALIFORNIANS, AND WE
MUST LOOK CONTINUE TO LOOK FOR
WAYS TO INCREASE THAT CAPACITY.
WHILE IT'S GOOD TO SEE THAT
CALIFORNIA ENROLLMENT INCREASES
OF NOT AND NON RESIDENTS
DECREASES WE REALLY NEED TO TALK
ABOUT AND YOU'VE HEARD ME TALK
ABOUT THIS IN THE PAST. UH, THE
COST OF THAT, UH, PROPOSAL ON
THAT PROGRAM. AT THE CSU. UH,
IT'S ALARMING TO SEE THAT
ENROLLMENT DECLINES ACROSS, UH,
NUMEROUS INSTITUTIONS THROUGHOUT
THE STATE MAJORITY OF CAMPUSES.
èC S¼ U, UH, MUST WORK HARDER
TO RECRUIT AND RETAIN OUR
STUDENTS, PARTICULARLY AT THE
CAMPUSES THAT ARE 20 CENT 20% OR
MORE BELOW THE ENROLMENT
TARGETS. WE ALSO HAVE DATA
BEFORE US THAT DEMONSTRATES THE,
UH SEVERE DECLINE IN DOUBLE
DIGITS AT MANY OF THESE
CAMPUSES. UH, I ALSO WANT TO
TALK ABOUT NON RESIDENTS.
ENROLLMENT AT èC S¼ U WITH, UH,
TWO CAMPUSES IN PARTICULAR THAT
ARE REACHING U èC LEVELS OF NON
RESIDENTS, UH, THAT COULD
POTENTIALLY HAVE AN IMPACT
CALIFORNIANS AND THAT'S SAN
DIEGO AND CAP POLI CAMPUSES. AND
AT THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE LEVEL,
UH, COLLEGE ENROLLMENT SEEMS TO
BE TRENDING UPWARD. BUT MOST
COLLEGES REMAIN UNDER THEIR PRE
COVID ENROLLMENT LEVELS, AND WE
WILL BE DISCUSSING HOW COLLEGES
CAN GROW. UH, TO PROVIDE MORE
ACCESS OF HIGHER EDUCATION FOR
MORE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY
THROUGH THE PROGRAMS SUCH AS
DUAL ENROLLMENT, SO UM, WITH
THAT, I'D ASK OUR FIRST PANEL TO
PLEASE COME FORWARD. UM FOR THIS
PANEL, WE HAVE LISA KING AND
JENNIFER. MARCELA FROM THE
LEGISLATIVE ANALYST'S OFFICE TO
SHARE THEIR REPORT. WELCOME AND
PLEASE BEGIN. GOOD AFTERNOON
CHAIR ALVAREZ, LISA KING WITH
THE LEGISLATIVE ANALYST'S
OFFICE. YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU A
REPORT TITLED TRENDS IN HIGHER
EDUCATION STUDENT ACCESS. WE
HAVE BEEN ASKED TO PRESENT SOME
HIGHLIGHTS FROM THIS RECENT L A
Ó REPORT TO KICK OFF THE
HEARING TODAY. I'LL BEGIN BY
WALKING THROUGH SOME OF THE KEY
DRIVERS THAT INFLUENCE HIGHER
EDUCATION ENROLLMENT. IF YOU
TURN TO PAGE FIVE OF THE REPORT,
YOU'LL SEE A LINE CHART TRACKING
THE COLLEGE AGE POPULATION. SO
THOSE AGE 18 TO 24. THE COLLEGE
AGE POPULATION HAS PEAKED BOTH
NATIONALLY AND IN CALIFORNIA. IN
CALIFORNIA. IT'S BEEN DECLINING
FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW, AND THIS
TREND IS PROJECTED TO CONTINUE.
TURNING TO THE BOTTOM CHART. ON
THAT SAME PAGE, YOU'LL SEE THAT
CALIFORNIA HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES
ARE ALSO PROJECTED TO DECLINE
OVER THE NEXT DECADE. IN
ADDITION TO THESE DEMOGRAPHIC
FACTORS, THERE ARE SOME ECONOMIC
FACTORS THAT IMPACT HIGHER
EDUCATION ENROLLMENT. TURNING TO
PAGE SIX. THE CHART ON THE
BOTTOM SHOWS THAT THESE ECONOMIC
FACTORS HAVE A BIGGER IMPACT ON
COMMUNITY COLLEGE ENROLLMENT
TRENDS IN FOUR YEAR UNIVERSITY
ENROLLMENT TRENDS. IN PARTICULAR
DURING RECESSIONS. MORE PEOPLE
TEND TO RETURN TO COMMUNITY
COLLEGES DRIVING ENROLLMENT UP
WHILE THE JOB MARKET IS WEAK.
AND ON THE OTHER HAND WHEN THE
JOB MARKET IMPROVES COMMUNITY
COLLEGE ENROLLMENT TENDS TO GO
DOWN. THE FIGURE AT THE TOP OF
PAGE SEVEN SHOWS. TOTAL
UNDERGRADUATE ENROLLMENT IN
CALIFORNIA BROKEN OUT BY
SEGMENT. YOU'LL SEE THAT TOTAL
ENROLLMENT PEAKED IN 2009 DURING
THE GREAT RECESSION. AND IS DOWN
SOMEWHAT SINCE THEN. THE BLUE
SECTION OF THIS CHART SHOWS THAT
THOSE ENROLLMENT DECLINES OVER
THE PAST DECADE HAVE REALLY BEEN
CONCENTRATED AT THE COMMUNITY
COLLEGES. DURING THE SAME TIME
PERIOD, èC S¼ U AND UC SAW
INCREASES IN ENROLLMENT. MEANING
THAT WE NOW HAVE A GREATER SHARE
OF STUDENTS AT THE FOUR YEAR
SEGMENTS TODAY. BEGINNING ON
PAGE NINE OF THE REPORT. WE
COVER SOME KEY CHANGES IN THE
STUDENT BODY OVER A SIMILAR TIME
FRAME. ONE OF THESE CHANGES IS
THAT A GROWING SHARE OF
CALIFORNIA'S UNDERGRADUATES ARE
LATINO STUDENTS. THAT SAID, WHEN
WE COMPARE CALIFORNIA'S COLLEGE
AGE POPULATION TO THE
UNDERGRADUATE STUDENT BODY AT U
èC, THE STATE'S MOST SELECTIVE
SEGMENT WE ARE STILL SEEING THAT
LATINO STUDENTS AS WELL AS BLACK
STUDENTS ARE UNDERREPRESENTED.
BEGINNING ON PAGE 11 OF THE
REPORT. WE HAVE A SERIES OF
CHARTS THAT COVER ADMISSIONS.
CHART AT THE TOP OF PAGE 11
FOCUSES ON ADMISSIONS OVER THE
PAST TWO DECADES. DURING THIS
TIME FRAME THE NUMBER OF
CALIFORNIA RESIDENTS APPLYING TO
U èC AS FRESHMEN HAS INCREASED
SIGNIFICANTLY MORE THAN DOUBLING
OVER 22 YEARS. THIS REFLECTS
THAT MORE HIGH SCHOOLS ARE
OFFERING COLLEGE PREPARATORY OR
A THROUGH G COURSES, AND MORE
STUDENTS ARE TAKING THEM. IT
ALSO REFLECTS THAT THERE HAVE
BEEN CERTAIN CHANGES TO èC AS
ADMISSION PRACTICES THAT HAVE
MADE MORE STUDENTS ELIGIBLE TO
APPLY AS FRESHMEN. DURING THE
SAME TIMEFRAME. THE NUMBER OF
CALIFORNIA RESIDENTS ADMITTED TO
UC HAS ALSO INCREASED, BUT NOT
AT THE SAME RATE AS APPLICATIONS
RESULTING IN THAT DECREASE IN
ADMISSION RATES THAT YOU
REFERENCED IN YOUR OPENING
COMMENTS. NONETHELESS THE NUMBER
OF CALIFORNIA RESIDENTS WHO
ULTIMATELY ENROLL AT UC HAS
STEADILY INCREASED OVER THE PAST
TWO DECADES. IF YOU TURN THE
PAGE, YOU'LL SEE SIMILAR CHARTS
FOR èC S¼ U. THE TREND HERE IS
SOMEWHAT DIFFERENT. OVER THE
PAST TWO DECADES, THE NUMBER OF
CALIFORNIA RESIDENTS APPLYING TO
èC S¼ U AS FRESHMAN HAS ALSO
INCREASED FROM MUCH OF THAT
PERIOD. THOUGH IT PEAKED IN 2016
AND IS DOWN SOMEWHAT IN RECENT
YEARS. WITH APPLICATIONS DOWN.
ADMISSION RATES HAVE INCREASED
AS OF FALL. 2022 èC S¼ U IS
ADMITTING THE VAST MAJORITY OF
FRESHMAN APPLICANTS. I BELIEVE
IT WAS 94% IN THE SYSTEM. THOUGH
THERE IS STILL VARIATION FROM
CAMPUS TO CAMPUS. THE NEXT
COUPLE OF PAGES SHOW SIMILAR
DATA FOR TRANSFER STUDENTS.
TRANSFER APPLICATIONS ARE DOWN
SOMEWHAT. THESE PAST FIGURES
THAT BOTH èC S¼ U AND AS A
RESULT OF COMMUNITY COLLEGE
ENROLLMENT DECLINES DURING THE
PANDEMIC. NONETHELESS AS YOU
REFERENCE CHAR RES IN YOUR
OPENING COMMENTS, THERE ARE
SIGNS FOR THOSE COMMUNITY
COLLEGE ENROLLMENT DECLINES ARE
REVERSING, AND THAT'S A TOPIC
THAT WILL BE DISCUSSED LATER IN
TODAY'S HEARING. THERE ARE
SEVERAL FACTORS CONTRIBUTING TO
THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE ENROLLMENT
RECOVERY, AND ONE OF THEM IS
INCREASED ENROLLMENT AMONG
CERTAIN NONTRADITIONAL
POPULATIONS. ON PAGE 15. WE
COVER INCREASES IN ENROLLMENT TO
THE COMMUNITY COLLEGES AMONG
HIGH SCHOOL DUAL ENROLLMENT
STUDENTS. INCARCERATED STUDENTS.
AND ALSO STUDENTS AND BACHELOR'S
DEGREE PROGRAMS AT THE COMMUNITY
COLLEGES. THIS LAST GROUP IN
PARTICULAR IS ONE OF SEVERAL
SIGNS WE'RE SEEING OF GROWING
COMPETITION BETWEEN THE SEGMENTS
FOR ENROLLMENT. OVER THE NEXT
DECADE. GIVEN PROJECTED
DEMOGRAPHIC DECLINES, YOU COULD
SEE THAT KIND OF ENROLLMENT
COMPETITION AMONG THE SEGMENTS
INTENSIFYING. AT THE SAME TIME,
THE LEGISLATURE IS GOING TO FACE
SOME KEY DECISIONS AROUND HOW
MUCH ENROLLMENT TO FUND AT EACH
OF THE SEGMENTS. THOSE DECISIONS
WILL HAVE IMPLICATIONS FOR
STUDENT ACCESS, AS WELL AS FOR
STATE COSTS. I'LL END BY NOTING
THAT IF STATE BUDGET DEFICITS
WERE TO PERSIST, THE LEGISLATURE
COULD FIND IT CHALLENGING TO
PROVIDE FUNDING FOR ENROLLMENT
GROWTH AT ANY OF THE SEGMENTS.
NOW LATER IN YOUR HEARING,
YOU'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO
DELVE INTO THESE VARIOUS TRENDS
AS IT IMPACTS THE INDIVIDUAL
SEGMENTS. BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY
OVERARCHING QUESTIONS, MY
COLLEAGUE JENNIFER PALL, AND I
WOULD BE HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS
AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. UH, MR FONG, DO YOU HAVE
SOME QUESTIONS FOR THE L A Ó ON
THIS ITEM. I CAN GET STARTED AND
MAYBE LET YOU SEE IF YOU CAN. UM
. SORRY EVERYBODY, MY NOTES. I
LEFT THEM IN THE OFFICE. I'M
GETTING THEM. I HAVE QUESTIONS
ON MY NOTES. I'LL BE GETTING
THEM IN A SECOND, BUT I THINK
THE ONE OF THE THINGS FROM THE
THIS PRESENTATION ANYWAY. AND
FOR FOLKS IN THE AUDIENCE WHO,
UM, AREN'T FAMILIAR WITH WHAT
WAS REFERENCED IN THE TESTIMONY
IS THE TRENDS IN HIGHER HIGHER
EDUCATION. UH, REPORT PUT
TOGETHER BY THE FOR STUDENT
ACCESS PUT TOGETHER BY THE
LEGISLATIVE ANALYST OFFICE. I
THINK THIS WAS, UM UM PRODUCED
WITHIN THE LAST MONTH IF I AM
CORRECT UM SO REFERENCING THO,
THOSE STATISTICS AND REALLY
WONDERFUL, UH, STATISTICS AND
EVEN BETTER, UM, PICTORIAL
DESCRIPTIONS OF WHAT'S HAPPENING
IN IN AS A RELATES TO ENROLLMENT
AND HIGHLY RECOMMENDED FOR
ANYONE INTERESTED IN HIGHER
EDUCATION. BUT, UM, I AM
INTERESTED IN THE ISSUE OF
ADMITTED TO THE U N èC S¼ U
SYSTEM VERSUS APPLIED AND JUST
TO, I THINK FULLY UNDERSTAND
EXACTLY WHAT THE DATA IS SHOWING
. THESE ARE FRESHMEN ONLY
APPLICATIONS THAT YOU'VE, UM
THAT YOU'VE IDENTIFIED HERE.
IT'S NOT ALL APPLICANTS TO THE
TWO SYSTEMS FOR THE CHARTS AND
PAGES, 11 AND 12 THAT WE WALK
THROUGH. THAT'S CORRECT. IT'S
CALIFORNIA RESIDENTS WHO ARE
APPLYING TO U èC AND èC S¼ U
AS FRESHMAN APPLICANTS. WE HAVE
CHARTS AND TRANSFER APPLICANTS
BEGINNING ON PAGE 13. SO ON SO
ON 13. UM RIGHT, AND THAT THAT
ONE FOR THE TRANSFERS. IT SEEMS
LIKE IT'S BEEN A LOT MORE.
WHAT'S THE WORD IS NOT
CONSISTENT. IT'S NOT A LINE. BUT
THE GAP ANYWAY, BETWEEN THOSE
WHO HAVE APPLIED AND THOSE WHO
FIRST WERE ADMITTED, AND THEN
ULTIMATELY ENROLLED SEEMS TO BE
MUCH MORE MORE NARROW. UM IT'S
INTERESTING. IS THERE ANYTHING
YOU'VE IDENTIFIED AS TO THIS?
THE èC S¼ U? UM I WAS SURPRISED
THEY ADMITTED. MAYBE NOT.
THEY'RE ENROLLED. UM BUT THAT'S
A DECISION THAT GETS MADE AS A
RESULT OF OTHER FACTORS, BUT AT
LEAST BEING ADMITTED INTO THE
UNIVERSITY SYSTEM, UM IS FAIRLY
FAIRLY HIGH. YOU I THINK YOU
SAID 94% OF THOSE WHO APPLY ARE
ADMITTED INTO THE CSU. UM IS
THAT ACCEPTED INTO ANY ONE OF
THE INSTITUTIONS OR PRO
INSTITUTION OF FIRST CHOICE?
WHAT? WHAT? WHAT ARE YOU
TRACKING HERE? IN THAT CHART
YOU'RE REFERENCING. IT REFERS TO
ACCEPTED TO AT LEAST ONE OF THE
èC S¼ U CAMPUSES, SO SYSTEM
ACCEPTANCE. THE HARP BENEATH
THAT, UH, ATTEMPTS TO BREAK DOWN
TRENDS BY CAMPUS, THOUGH,
BECAUSE THEY'RE 20 THREE
CAMPUSES. WE'VE COED. SOME OF
THE DATA. WE ARE SEEING THAT AS
A FALL 2022 ABOUT HALF OF èC S¼
U S¼ CAMPUSES. 12 OUT OF THE 23
HAD ADMISSION RATES OF 90% OR
HIGHER, BUT THERE ARE ALSO
CAMPUSES THAT HAVE LOWER
ADMISSION RATES, INCLUDING SOME
CAMPUSES, WHERE PROGRAMS ARE
IMPACTED, MEANING THEY ARE
TURNING AWAY STUDENTS WHO MEET
SYSTEM WIDE ELIGIBILITY
CRITERIA. OK? UM THE OTHER THING
THAT, UM THAT I SEE AN INCREASE
IN THAT YOU DIDN'T REALLY FOCUS
ON BUT IT'S THE, UH, LARGE SHARE
OF UNDERGRADUATES FROM THE
HIGHER UH UH, ECONOMIC IMPACT
STRATA THAT YOU'VE OUTLINED ON
PAGE 10. UM HOUSEHOLDS WITH
INCOMES OF 185,000 OR MORE, UM
GROWING SINCE 2006. WHICH IS A
DATA POINT THAT YOU IDENTIFIED.
UM WE ALSO TO ACKNOWLEDGE
THERE'S BEEN A GROWTH. UH, FOR
THOSE UNDER 31,000. UM, BUT
CERTAINLY NOW A, UH EVEN IT
SEEMS LIKE A LARGER UM GAP
EXISTS BETWEEN, UM, THE UNDER
THAT I JUST COULD USE THE TERM
LOWER LOWER INCOME HOUSEHOLD
VERSUS A HIGHER INCOME HOUSEHOLD
, UH, THAT THAT GAP CONTINUES TO
GROW AND IN THE MIDDLE INCOME.
UM I'LL CALL THE MIDDLE INCOME
AS I DEPICTED HERE SEEM TO
ACTUALLY BE DROPPING THE
PERCENTAGE OF THIS IS NOW ACTUAL
AND ENROLLED UNDERGRADUATES AT
THE CAMPUSES. OK? UM I THINK I
HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS MORE
SPECIFIC ON ALL THE OTHER
PANELS, BUT I'LL SEE. MISTER
FONG HAS SOME QUESTIONS. THANK
YOU SO MUCH, MR CHAIR AND THANK
YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION HERE
TODAY. COUPLE QUICK QUESTIONS ON
COLLEGE. AND ROMANCE. I SAW THAT
ONE OF THE CHARTS THAT THE ON
PAGE 18 THAT ONLINE INSTRUCTION
IS STILL A VERY HIGH ABOVE PRE
PANDEMIC LEVELS. DO WE HAVE AN
ACCURATE NUMBER? IS THAT 50% OR
WHAT IS THAT STATUS RIGHT NOW
ACROSS THE CHEMICAL SYSTEM. AS
OF THE MOST RECENT YEAR SHOWN IN
THIS FIGURE. YES THAT DOES LOOK
LIKE ABOUT 50% OF INSTRUCTION IS
BEING DELIVERED THROUGH DISTANCE
EDUCATION AT THE COMMUNITY
COLLEGES AND THAT'S FOR 2020
2021. OR IS THAT LIKE UP UNTIL
THIS LAST ACADEMIC YEAR? YEAH, I
THINK AND UM JENNIFER PACELLA
ALLEGED ANALYST'S OFFICE. I
THINK IT'S EXTENDING ALL THE WAY
THROUGH 2220. THREE, UM I DON'T
NEED TO PUNCH BUT THAT MIGHT BE
SOMETHING YOU WANT TO REVISIT.
WHEN YOU GET TO THE COLLEGE
FOLKS. OUR COMMUNITY COLLEGE
COLLEAGUE IS IN THE ROOM. IF SO,
YOU COULD GET AN UPDATE AND FALL
OF 20 THREE THE PERCENTAGE OF
COURSES THAT ARE STILL BEING
OFFERED ONLINE. YOU CAN SEE THIS
THAT THE COLLEGES OF ALL THREE
STS EVEN BEFORE THE PANDEMIC
WERE DOING THE LARGEST SHARE OF
THEIR INSTRUCTION ONLINE, BUT
YOU CAN OBVIOUSLY SEE IT
INCREASED DEEPLY DURING THE
PANDEMIC YEARS AND REMAINED
THERE FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS
BEFORE STARTING ALL NOW, AS YOU
TALK TO ALL OF THE SEGMENTS,
THEY ARE SUGGESTING THEY'RE NOT
GOING TO FALL BACK TO WHERE THEY
USED TO BE, BECAUSE WE SORT OF
LIVE IN A NEW, NORMAL WELL,
ONLINE INSTRUCTION WILL REMAIN
MORE COMMON, AND THE COLLEGES
ARE TRYING A VARIETY OF
STRATEGIES BETWEEN HYBRID AND
HIGH FLEX THAT INCORPORATE
ONLINE COMPONENTS. SO IT IT'S
STILL, UM, A HIGH LEVEL
HISTORICALLY WELL ABOVE THE PRE
PANIC LEVEL. WHETHER WE'RE
TALKING FALL 22 OR FALL, 20
THREE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. UH, WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR
NEXT PANEL ISSUE. NUMBER TWO IS
U èC ENROLLMENT UPDATE AND
PROPOSAL. WE WILL DISCUSS
OBVIOUSLY ENROLMENT ISSUES AT
GREATER LENGTH HERE AND MORE
DETAILS. WE HAVE GABRIELA CHÁVEZ
DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE. IN FROM
ANALYST OFFICE AND SAIN AT THE
OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT WILL BE
OUR PANELIST TODAY, SO IF WE CAN
START IN THAT ORDER WITH
DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE THANK YOU.
THANK YOU GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIR
ALVAREZ AND MEMBERS GAVRILA
CHÁVEZ WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF
FINANCE. THE GOVERNANCE BUDGET
REFLECTS THE THIRD YEAR OF THE
MULTIYEAR COMEBACK WITH THE
UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA AND
DESPITE THE STATE CURRENT FISCAL
CONDITION, THE ADMINISTRATION
REMAINS COMMITTED TO THE SHARED
GOALS OF INCREASING ACCESS TO
THE UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA IN
IMPROVING STUDENT ACCESS. TO
ADDRESS THE PROJECTED BUDGET
SHORTFALL. THE GOVERNOR'S BUDGET
PROPOSES A ONE TIME DEFERRAL FOR
THE PLAN. 227.8 MILLION ONGOING
GENERAL FUND INCREASE IN 2024 25
AS PART OF THE MULTIYEAR
COMEBACK INVESTMENT AND THE PLAN
INVESTMENT OF █31 MILLION
ONGOING GENERAL FUND IN 2024 25
TO UPSET REVENUE REDUCTIONS
ASSOCIATED WITH THE REPLACEMENT
OF 902. RESIDENT UNDERGRADUATE
STUDENTS. THE ADMINISTRATION
EXPECTS THE UNIVERSITY OF
CALIFORNIA TO CONTINUE MAKING
PROGRESS TOWARDS THE COMPACT
GOALS, INCLUDING GROWING
ENROLLING BY 1% EACH YEAR DURING
THE DURATION OF THE COMPACT.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS
YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. IAN KLEIN WITH THE L, A Ó
MEMBERS. WE WOULD LIKE TO
DISCUSS THREE ISSUES WITH
RESPECT TO UC'S ENROLLMENT.
FIRST THE 2223 BUDGET ACT SET AN
UNDERGRADUATE RESIDENT
ENROLLMENT TARGET FOR OF 203,661
FULL TIME EQUIVALENT STUDENTS BY
20 THREE 24. YOU SEE, CURRENTLY
ESTIMATES THAT THEY WILL FALL
SHORT OF MEETING THIS GOAL.
WHILE THE ENROLLMENT NUMBERS
WON'T BE FINALIZED UNTIL LATER
THIS YEAR, WE RECOMMEND SCOOPING
ANY UNEARNED FUNDS AS PART OF
THE 2526 BUDGET CYCLE ONCE THOSE
NUMBERS ARE FINALIZED. SECOND WE
RECOMMEND HOLDING THE ENROLLMENT
TARGET FLAT AT THE 23 OR 2220
THREE BUDGET ACT LEVEL FOR 2024,
25 AND 2526. BOTH THE
ADMINISTRATION AND UC EXPECT
ENROLLMENT GROWTH FOR THE BUDGET
YEAR DESPITE NÓ BASE
AUGMENTATION BEING PROVIDED AS
PART OF THE GOVERNOR'S BUDGET.
IS EXPECTED THAT WILL COVER THE
COST OF ENROLLING THESE
ADDITIONAL STUDENTS FOR THAT
YEAR. WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THERE
IS STRONG DEMAND TO ATTEND IN
GENERAL AND AT SEVERAL CAMPUSES
IN PARTICULAR. HOWEVER THERE ARE
A FEW FACTORS THAT HAVE IMPACTED
MEETING THERE. ENROLLMENT
TARGETS. SEVERAL CAMPUSES NEEDED
TO GO FURTHER INTO THEIR
WAITLIST LATER IN THE
APPLICATION CYCLE, WHICH
RESULTED IN SOME CAMPUSES,
MISSING THEIR ENROLLMENT
TARGETS. AS YOU HEARD EARLIER.
WITH RESPECT TO DEMOGRAPHIC
CHANGES. BOTH THE NUMBER OF
CALIFORNIA HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES
AND THE CALIFORNIA COLLEGE AGE
POPULATION ARE DECLINING AND ARE
EXPECTED TO CONTINUE TO DECLINE.
MOVING INTO THE FUTURE, WHICH
ALL THINGS CONSIDERED WHICH, UH,
WOULD RESULT IN A SMALLER POOL
OF APPLICANTS THAT WOULD GO TO
ADDITIONALLY, FIRST YEAR
RETENTION RATES RECENTLY
DECLINED FOR THREE CONSECUTIVE
YEARS FROM 2019 TO 2021, WHICH
ALSO IMPACTS TOTAL ENROLLMENT
LEVELS. GIVEN THESE FACTORS AND
IN LIGHT OF THE STATE'S BUDGET
OUTLOOK. WE RECOMMEND HOLDING
THE UNDERGRADUATE ENROLLMENT
TARGET FLAT. LASTLY YOU SEE,
CONTINUES TO IMPLEMENT THE
NON-RESIDENT REDUCTION PLAN AT
THE BERKELEY, LOS ANGELES AND
SAN DIEGO CAMPUSES. MAINTAINING
THE NON-RESIDENT REDUCTION PLAN
WOULD COME AT A COST OF 31
MILLION. THE ADMINISTRATION DID
NOT PROVIDE FUNDS FOR THIS
PURPOSE AND THE GOVERNOR'S
BUDGET. GIVEN THAT STUDENT
DEMAND IS SO STRONG AT THESE
THREE CAMPUSES, THE LEGISLATURE
MAY REQUEST USE A PORTION OF
THEIR UNCOMMITTED RESERVES,
WHICH CURRENTLY TOTALS ROUGHLY
238 MILLION TO CONTINUE
IMPLEMENTING THIS PLAN. WHILE
WE'RE USING RESERVES FOR ONGOING
ENROLLMENT COSTS IS NOT
SUSTAINABLE OVER MANY YEARS.
THIS ACTION COULD BE CONSIDERED
ON A TEMPORARY BASIS. GIVEN THAT
THE NON RESIDENTS REDUCTION PLAN
HAVE BEEN SUCH A HIGH
LEGISLATIVE PRIORITY. I'LL
CONCLUDE MY REMARKS THERE, BUT
I'M HAPPY TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL
INPUT WHERE NEEDED. THANK YOU.
THE CHAIR ALVAREZ AND MEMBERS OF
THE COMMITTEE FOR HAVING ME HERE
TODAY I AM SAY OF YOUR CANON FOR
THE UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA.
I'M VERY HAPPY TO SHARE WITH YOU
THAT FOR FALL OF 2023, THE
UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA
ENROLLED OUR LARGEST EVER
INTERING CLASS OF CALIFORNIA
UNDERGRADUATES. IN THE FALL, UC
CAMPUSES ENROLLED 59,810 TIME
ENTERING CALIFORNIA
UNDERGRADUATES. FOR THE 2024 SO
SORRY FOR THE 2020 THREE 24
YEAR. THE UNIVERSITY ESTIMATES
THAT WE WILL HAVE AN ENROLLMENT
OF OVER 202,000, CALIFORNIA
UNDERGRADUATES. THIS INCREASE IN
ACCESS FOR CALIFORNIA STUDENTS
HAS BEEN DUE TO THE DELIBERATE
INVESTMENTS MADE BY THE
LEGISLATURE AND THE GOVERNOR IN
THE UNIVERSITY. IN THE PAST
DECADE, THE STATE HAS PROVIDED
ANNUAL FUNDING FOR INCREASING
ACCESS FOR CALIFORNIA'S
UNDERGRADUATES. AND DURING THIS
TIME YOU SEE CAMPUSES GREW.
CALIFORNIA UNDERGRADUATES
ENROLLMENT BY OVER 29,000
STUDENTS. THIS INCLUDES GROWTH
AT UC MERCED, BUT IT ALSO FAR
SURPASSES A SINGLE CAMPUS AND
REFLECTS REAL EXPANSION OF
OPPORTUNITY FOR CALIFORNIA'S
UNDERGRADUATES. WITH THE
LEGISLATURE'S FUTURE INVESTMENTS
IN THE UNIVERSITY. WE CAN
CONTINUE TO GROW. THE UNIVERSITY
APPRECIATES THE STRONG
PARTNERSHIP WITH THE GOVERNOR,
AND WE REQUEST THE LEGISLATURE
SUPPORT THE PROPOSED DEFERRAL OF
THE COMPACT FUNDING. TO CONTINUE
OFFER ACCESS TO QUALITY
EDUCATION. THE PROPOSED DEFERRED
FUNDING WOULD SUPPORT AN
ADDITIONAL 1% GROWTH IN
CALIFORNIA UNDERGRADUATES AND
THE REPLACEMENT OF 902
NON-RESIDENT STUDENTS, UH, WITH
CALIFORNIA UNDERGRADUATES. IN
ADDITION, THE DEFERRED FUNDING
WILL SUPPORT NECESSARY EXISTING
CORE OPERATING COSTS FOR OUR
CAMPUSES, INCLUDING INSTRUCTION
AND STUDENT SERVICES. FOR THE
2024 25 YEAR. WE INTEND TO
CONTINUE TO GROW CALIFORNIA
UNDERGRADUATE ENROLMENT AT ALL
OF OUR UNDERGRADUATE CAMPUSES TO
MEET THE COMPACT GROWTH AND WILL
CONTINUE TO REPLACE NON-RESIDENT
ENROLLMENT AT BERKELEY, LOS
ANGELES AND SAN DIEGO CAMPUSES.
THE UNIVERSITY CONTINUES TO
DECREASE THE NUMBER OF
NON-RESIDENT STUDENTS THIS FALL,
WE ENROLLED THE SMALLEST NUMBER
OF NON-RESIDENT STUDENTS SINCE
THE FALL OF 2017 WITH A THREE
YEAR DECLINE, LEADING TO A
SYSTEM WIDE NON-RESIDENT SHARE
OF 16.6% ALL THANKS TO STATE
SUPPORT. THE COMPACT ENROLLMENT
GROWTH OF 2 24 25 WILL BE 2927 F
Dð, CALIFORNIA UNDERGRADUATES.
IN ADDITION TO THAT ENROLLMENT
GROWTH, THE UNIVERSITY INTENDS
TO GROW ENROLLMENT TO ENSURE
THAT ANY SHORTFALL TO THE 2023
24 FUNDED TARGET IS MADE UP NEXT
YEAR. HOWEVER WE MIGHT STILL
MEET THE 2020 THREE 24 TARGET
WITHOUT THE ADDITIONAL
ENROLLMENT NEXT YEAR. THIS IS
BECAUSE THE LEGISLATURE FUNDS
THE UNIVERSITIES, ENROLLMENT
GROWTH ON AN ANNUAL FULL TIME
EQUIVALENT, OR F Tð STUDENT
BASIS. THE F Tð IS BASED ON THE
NUMBER OF STUDENT COURSE CREDIT
HOURS TAKEN. AND CONTINUES TO
CHANGE THROUGH THE SPRING TERM.
SO FAR THIS YEAR. THE
PRELIMINARY NUMBERS OF COURSE,
TAKING FOR THE CURRENT ACADEMIC
YEAR ARE ENCOURAGING. AND THAT
THE STUDENT COURSE CREDIT HOURS
TAKEN HAVE INCREASED FROM THE
LAST YEAR. WE REQUEST THAT NÓ
REVERSION OPTION BE EXERCISED ON
THE UC ENROLLMENT COURSE FUNDS
THIS SPRING BECAUSE THE FULL
YEAR F Tð WILL NOT BE FINAL. I
ALSO WANT TO MENTION THAT THE
UNIVERSITY HAS ASPIRATIONS TO
GROW OUR GRADUATE HEALTH
SCIENCES PROGRAMS TO ADDRESS
CURRENT INEQUITIES IN THE STATE.
THE UNIVERSITIES REQUESTING
THREE 0.5 MILLION IN ONGOING
FUNDS TO ESTABLISH AND SUPPORT
ENROLLMENT GROWTH OF TWO NEW
HEALTH SCIENCES PROGRAMS MODELED
AFTER THE U èC PROGRAMS IN
MEDICAL EDUCATION OR PRIME THESE
NEW PROGRAMS WOULD EXPAND AND
INNOVATIVE TRAINING CURRICULUM,
FOCUSING ON ADDRESSING HEALTH
CARE, WORKFORCE SHORTAGES AND
MEETING THE NEEDS OF
CALIFORNIA'S UNDERSERVED
POPULATIONS AND DENTISTRY AND
PHARMACEUTICAL CARE. WE ARE ALSO
REQUESTING $800,000 FOR THE Dð
VÆ M, WHICH WILL PREPARE HIGHLY
MOTIVATED, SOCIALLY CONSCIOUS
LEADERS TO EXPAND ACCESS TO
VETERINARY CARE AND UNDERSERVED
AREAS. THE UNIVERSITY OF
CALIFORNIA'S GOAL CONTINUES TO
BE TO OFFER ADDITIONAL
OPPORTUNITIES TO CALIFORNIA'S
FUTURE COLLEGE STUDENTS AS PART
OF OUR 2030 CAPACITY PLAN. WE
INTEND TO GROW ENROLLMENT BY AT
LEAST 23,000 STUDENTS BETWEEN
2020 2030. IN ORDER TO HELP
CALIFORNIA MEET THE NEEDS FOR A
HIGHLY SKILLED WORKFORCE AND TO
PROVIDE OUR STUDENTS WITH THE
OPPORTUNITY TO REACH THEIR
ASPIRATIONS. I THANK YOU FOR
YOUR TIME TODAY. THANK YOU ALL
THREE. FOR YOUR PRESENTATIONS.
APPRECIATE THAT. UM I THINK I'LL
START AND THEN CERTAINLY LET MY
COLLEAGUES JUMP JUMP IN HERE. UM
CERTAINLY THE NUMBERS PRESENTED
BY FOR FALL ENROLLMENT ARE, UM
UH, AN IMP. APPEAR TO BE AN
IMPROVEMENT FROM PREVIOUS YEARS.
UM, HOWEVER, UH, YOU KNOW THE
DATA THAT LAO HAS PRESENTED US
WITH AND THAT IS IN THE STAFF
REPORT FOR THIS AGENDA. UH, I
WAS JUST LOOKING AT ONE TABLE IN
PARTICULAR. UM IF YOU DON'T LOOK
AT YOUR SAD BECAUSE THAT WAS NOT
A CAMPUS THAT WAS ONLINE IN 2002
. IN THE LAST 20 YEARS, ROUGHLY
UM ALMOST EVERY CAMPUS, LOS
ANGELES, BERKELEY. IRVINE, SAN
DIEGO. SANTA BARBARA ALMOST
DAVIS AND SANTA CRUZ HAVE ALL
CUT CALIFORNIA RESIDENT
FRESHMAN, UM ENROLLMENTS HAVE BY
MORE THAN 50. UM I THINK YOU'VE
HEARD ABOUT THIS MULTIPLE TIMES
FROM THE LEGISLATURE THAT THIS
IS A CONCERN. THAT CONTINUES TO
BE A CONCERN. UM AND SO THEN YOU
COUPLE WITH THAT, UH, THAT AT
LEAST CURRENTLY, THE DATA
AVAILABLE TO US UM, THE ESTIMATE
IS THAT THERE'LL BE ABOUT 1400.
UNDER ENROLLMENT OF CALIFORNIA.
RESIDENT UNDERGRADUATES IN THE
COMPARED TO WHAT WAS BUDGETED IN
THE 20 THREE 24 BUDGET I. I
HEARD YOU STATE THAT THERE MIGHT
BE ADDITIONAL F Tð S¼ COUNTED AT
SOME POINT, UM, BUT THOSE TWO
CONTINUE TO BE REALLY CONCERNING
. AND YOU. YOU PROBABLY HEARD ME
. UM STATE THAT TO, UH,
PRESIDENT DRAKE AT OUR FIRST
HEARING ABOUT THIS, AND SO, UM I
STILL HAVEN'T REALLY HEARD A
RESPONSE AS TO HOW WE'RE GOING
TO OUTSIDE OF REQUESTING MORE
MONEY IN A IN A YEAR WHERE WE
DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO PROVIDE
AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT MONEY AND
THE COST OF DOING THIS PROGRAM
IN A SECOND. UM WHAT ARE THE
OTHER COMMITMENTS? TO ENSURE, UM
THAT MORE CALIFORNIANS THAT WE
REVERT TO THE POSITIVE TREND OF
YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY WAS AT LEAST
25% FROM L A ON ON TO EVERY
CAMPUS OR CALIFORNIA RESIDENTS
ONLY 20 YEARS AGO. L A IS NOW AT
9. THERE WAS A COUPLE YEARS AGO.
I THINK IT'S GROWING. BERKELEY
14% WE KNOW ABOUT, YOU KNOW, UH,
AT THOSE TWO IN SAN DIEGO, OR
THERE'S THIS THIS AGREEMENT TO
TRY TO REACH A CERTAIN LEVEL,
BUT, UM, WE HAVE THE SAME
CONCERN WITH ALL THE OTHER
CAMPUS THROUGHOUT THE STATE. SO
I, I I'D LIKE TO HEAR WHAT THE U
èC, UM WHAT THE CONVERSATIONS
ARE ABOUT. MAKING SURE THAT MORE
CALIFORNIANS ARE ACTUALLY
ATTENDING OUR SYSTEM SCHOOLS.
UM, THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.
CHAIR ALVAREZ. WE HAVE FOUND
THAT DURING THE LAST TWO DECADES
OF FAR MORE CALIFORNIA HIGH
SCHOOL STUDENTS HAVE BECOME
ELIGIBLE. UH, THROUGH THE A
THROUGH G REQUIREMENTS TO APPLY
TO UC AND èC S¼ U. WHICH IS WHY
, UM, WE'VE SEEN IN PART THAT
RAPID INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF
APPLICATIONS TO THE SYSTEM. UH,
IT USED TO BE THAT NOT THAT MANY
HIGH SCHOOLERS. UH ACTUALLY
COMPLETED ALL OF THOSE A THROUGH
G CRITERIA. NOW THERE ARE FAR
MORE HIGH SCHOOLERS WHO ARE
ELIGIBLE TO APPLY TO IN TERMS OF
TRYING TO OFFER MORE. ACCESS
WITHOUT A GREAT DEAL OF INCREASE
IN COST. IT DOES COST TO EDUCATE
MONEY TO EDUCATE MORE STUDENTS.
WE HAVE TO HIRE THE INSTRUCTORS.
WE NEED STUDENT SERVICES. I'M
GONNA I'M GONNA INTERRUPT YOU.
IT'S NOT ABOUT MORE STUDENTS
ABOUT MORE CALIFORNIA STUDENTS
THAT THAT'S RIGHT, WHICH DOES
NOT REQUIRE MORE INSTRUCTORS.
YEAH, WE STILL WANT TO HIRE
INSTRUCTORS FOR THE CALIFORNIA
STUDENTS AS WELL, UM, WE ARE
LOOKING AT EXPANDING ONLINE
PROGRAMS. UM, SO THAT IS A
SERIOUS DISCUSSION WHILE WE SAW
A BRIEF DECLINE OF THOSE ONLINE
COURSES AFTER THE PANDEMIC, UM
THEY ARE BEING REVIEWED BY OUR
ACADEMIC SENATE IN ORDER TO
INCREASE THE NUMBER OF ONLINE
COURSES THAT ARE AVAILABLE
PERMANENTLY. IF WE CAN OFFER
MORE ONLINE COURSES DURING THE
SUMMER, ESPECIALLY AND WE CAN
INCREASE THROUGHPUT OF STUDENTS
SO THAT MORE STUDENTS ARE
GRADUATING IN FOUR YEARS, WE CAN
ADMIT ANOTHER STUDENT TO REPLACE
THAT STUDENT RIGHT NOW, MOST OF
WE HAVE A LOT OF STUDENTS THAT
ARE GRADUATING IN 4.5 YEARS OR
FIVE YEARS, AND WE ARE TRYING TO
SHORTEN THAT TIME TO GRADUATION
BECAUSE ONCE THE STUDENT
GRADUATES WE CAN THEN ADMIT A
NEW STUDENT. UH TO REPLACE THEM,
AND THAT WILL INCREASE THE
NUMBER OF STUDENTS WHO HAVE AN
OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND THE
UNIVERSITY. WE'RE ALSO LOOKING
AT OH, GO AHEAD. I WAS JUST
GONNA THE QUESTION THAT COMES TO
MIND WHEN YOU RESPOND WITH THAT
IS THAT ALL THE CAMPUSES HAVE
GROWN IN TERMS OF ENROLLMENT.
THERE'S BEEN MORE SLOTS IF YOU
WILL FOR STUDENTS OVER THE LAST
TWO DECADES. SO BUT WE'RE THE
SHARE THE PROPORTIONATE SHARE
FROM CALIFORNIA STUDENTS. UM IS
NOT AT ALL KEPT UP WITH THAT. SO
THERE HAS BEEN MORE SLOTS
AVAILABLE THAT HAVE AND THEY
HAVE NOT GONE. TO CALIFORNIANS.
THEY'VE GONE TO OUT OF STATE
STUDENTS. THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING
TO GET TO WITH THIS QUESTION,
ALL RIGHT, SO DURING THE GREAT
RECESSION STATE LOST A
TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY AND
THE STATE CUT THE UNIVERS BUDGET
BY OVER A BILLION DOLLARS
BECAUSE THAT WAS A TREMENDOUS
LOSS OF FUNDING IN ORDER TO
CONTINUE TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT
OUR BASE BUDGET, THE UNIVERSITY
INCREASED NON RESENT ENROLLMENT.
UM AS YOU ALL KNOW,
NON-RESIDENTS PAY THE UNIVERSITY
TUITION, BUT THEY ALSO PAY AN
ADDITIONAL FEE CALLED NON
RESIDENCE, SUPPLEMENTAL TUITION.
THAT SUPPORTS THE UNIVERSITY'S
BASE BUDGET. TODAY OUR NON
RESIDENT POPULATION PAYS ABOUT
PAYS THE UNIVERSITY ABOUT $1.1
BILLION IN NON RESIDENTS,
SUPPLEMENTAL TUITION ALONE THAT
GOES TO SUPPORT OUR CORE CAMPUS
OPERATIONS. THOSE BUNS. WE ARE
LOOKING FOR WAYS TO REPLACE THEM
SO THAT WE WOULD NÓ LONGER HAVE
THAT, UH, NECE NECESSARY,
NECESSARY DEPENDENCE ON NON
RESIDENTS. SUPPLEMENTAL TUITION.
THAT IS THE CONVERSATION WE HAVE
STARTED AND THE LEGISLATURE HAS
BEEN WILLING TO FUND THE
REPLACEMENT OF THOSE
NON-RESIDENT STUDENTS. SO IN
ORDER FOR US TO CONTINUE ON THAT
ROUTE OF REPLACING THE
NON-RESIDENT STUDENTS, WE WOULD
NEED MONEY TO DO SO CURRENTLY
EACH NON-RESIDENT THAT IS
ENROLLED SUPPORTS THEMSELVES AND
1.8, CALIFORNIA RESIDENT
STUDENTS THROUGH ALL THAT THOSE
FEES THAT THEY PAY THAT █1.01
BILLION IN THE CAMPUS BASED
BUDGETS. IF WE WERE TO REMOVE
THOSE FUNDS, IT WOULD BE A
CATASTROPHIC FOR OUR CAMPUSES.
IT WOULD MEAN MASSIVE LAYOFFS.
IT WOULD MEAN ENDS TO STUDENT
SERVICE. I DON'T THINK THERE'S
ANY INTEREST IN UH, YOU'RE
MOVING THOSE FUNDS. IN FACT, I
THINK THERE'S INTEREST IN YOU,
UH, ACHIEVING MORE REVENUE
THROUGH THOSE FUNDS SO THAT MORE
CALIFORNIANS CAN ACTUALLY, UH,
PARTICIPATE IN THE YOUTH SYSTEM.
BUT I, I APPRECIATE YOUR HONEST
RESPONSE TO WHY YOU THIS IS A
FISCAL DECISION YOU MADE YOU
NEEDED MORE MONEY, AND YOU COULD
CHARGE OUT OF STATE STUDENTS
MORE MONEY, AND THAT'S HOW
YOU'RE MAKING THE REVENUE IN
ORDER TO BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN YOUR
OPERATIONS. THAT'S A VERY HONEST
RESPONSE AND SO GOING FORWARD,
UM THAT'S PROBABLY THE MODEL
THAT YOU NEED TO LOOK AT. IF IS
GOING TO BE A DEMAND FOR
INCREASE, UH, EXPENSES OF ANY
KIND. THAT'S THAT'S LIKELY WHERE
YOU'RE YOU'LL HAVE TO FIND THAT
IN A YEAR LIKE THIS ONE WHERE WE
DO NOT HAVE THE TYPE OF REVENUE
THAT WE'VE HAD, PARTICULARLY
OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS IN
ORDER TO ACCOMPLISH THAT, AND
THAT TAKES ME TO THE, UH I THINK
I'LL II. I HAVE TO EXPRESS MY
OPINION ON THIS NOW, UH, ON ON
THE COST OF, UM YOU KNOW,
ROUGHLY. LET ME ASK. FIRST
CLARIFYING. QUESTION THE 902.
ROUGHLY, UH, SLOTS, WHICH WE
CALIFORNIA AS GENERAL FUNDS
PLANTS FOR WHAT OTHERWISE WOULD
HAVE BEEN TRANSFER STUDENTS THAT
YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN GETTING
REVENUE FOR TO HELP WITH YOUR
OPERATIONS IS NOW COMING OUT OF
THE GENERAL FUND TO THE TUNE OF
$31 MILLION A YEAR IS A 900
NUMBER A F Tð E NUMBER, OR IS
THAT A HEADCOUNT NUMBER? ARE WE
HAVING 902 MORE STUDENTS OR ARE
WE JUST HAVING 902 MORE F Tð
EQUIVALENT STUDENTS? HAVING MORE
THAN 902 HEADCOUNT STUDENTS
BECAUSE WE ARE PLACING MORE THAN
THE THAN THE REQUIRED AMOUNT. UM
WE DO HAVE A GENERAL F Tð
CONVERSION RATIO FOR OUR
CAMPUSES BASED ON THE AVERAGE
AMOUNT OF STUDENT CREDIT. OUR
STUDENTS TAKE THAT. WE THEN USED
TO CONVERT THE HEAD COUNT TO F
Tð TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE ARE.
BOTH NUMBERS ARE AT LEAST ABOVE
A 902. BUT WE HAVE BEEN PLACING
MORE THAN THE, UM MORE THAN 902
STUDENTS A YEAR. OK, THANK YOU.
UH SO THAT BRINGS ME TO THE LAST
SET OF QUESTIONS HERE ON THIS.
AND, UM IT'S IT HAS TO DO WITH
THE COST AND AGAIN IT WAS
EARLIER SAYING, MY THOUGHTS ON
THIS IS, YOU KNOW, AT A COST OF,
UM, $31 MILLION PER YEAR. OVER
THE COURSE OF FIVE YEARS, WE
WILL BE PAYING 100 AND 50, 100
AND 50. 5 MILLION. THAT'S THE
MATH 31 TIMES FIVE. IN ORDER TO
GET UM, ROUGHLY 5000 MORE
STUDENTS INTO THE UC SYSTEM.
THAT'S CORRECT, SIR. SO I THINK
THAT'S JUST AN IMPORTANT FACT
FOR OUR COMMITTEE TO UNDERSTAND
THAT, UH, THAT THAT'S WHAT THAT
COST, UM, REMINDING YOU THAT
THINGS LIKE CAL GRANT REFORM IS,
UM, ROUGHLY IN THAT BALLPARK AND
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW,
WELL OVER 100,000 STUDENTS AS
OPPOSED TO 5000 STUDENTS HERE SO
ABOUT THE CHOICES WE NEED TO
MAKE, AND WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND
WHAT WHAT THAT ALL MEANS. WHAT
WOULD HAPPEN IF, UM YOU WERE NOT
TO I. I ASKED THIS QUESTION TO
THE PRESIDENT DRAKE AND, UH, SO
I'M SURE YOU'RE YOU'RE PREPARED
TO ANSWER THIS TODAY. UH IF YOU
DO NOT RECEIVE THE $31 MILLION
AUGMENTATION FOR THIS PARTICULAR
PROGRAM IN THE NEXT THREE YEARS
IF WE DID NOT RECEIVE THE
AUGMENTATION. WE HAD A
CONVERSATION WITH THE
LEGISLATURE ABOUT NEXT STEPS.
UM, WE MIGHT HAVE TO GO BACK AND
READMIT 902 NON-RESIDENTS OF
OTHER OPTIONS THAT AVAIL REMAIN
AVAILABLE TO THE REGIONS ARE,
UH, INCREASING NON RESIDENTS
SUPPLEMENTAL TUITION ON THE
EXISTING STUDENTS, SO AS NOT TO,
UH, READMIT ANY NON RESIDENTS,
BUT TO CONTINUE HIGHER REVENUES.
UM OTHER OPTIONS ARE BUDGET CUTS
TO THE UNIVERSITY AS WELL. UM
THERE CAN BE A CONVERSATION
ABOUT THE LEVEL OF SERVICES
BEING PROVIDED ON OUR CAMPUSES.
UM AND THE FUTURE COST WE MIGHT
BE THINKING ABOUT TAKING ON OR
WHICH CUTS NEED TO BE MADE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR
ANSWERING THOSE QUESTIONS, MR
FONG. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR
CHAIR AND JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON
THE CHAIRMAN'S COMMENTS AS WELL.
WHEN WE LOOK AT PAGE FIVE OF THE
REPORT. IT IS F èC, BERKELEY.
22.1 PER CENT ON RESIDENT YOU
SEE LOS ANGELES 20.4% AND I KNOW
THE GOAL IS TO GET TO 18. I LOVE
UNDERGRADUATE SAN DIEGO'S 9.8.
UM WITH THE ADDITIONAL
ENROLLMENT OF 902 NON-RESIDENT
TENANTS. I MEAN, 900
CALIFORNIANS EACH YEAR AND ABOVE
AND BEYOND THAT, BUT I THINK WE
STILL NEED TO CONTINUE TO MOVE
THE NEEDLE TO EMIT MORE
CALIFORNIANS INTO THE MOST, UH,
SELECTIVE CAMPUSES AND WHAT THE
LINES THAT THE LEGISLATURE UH,
THE $31 MILLION EACH YEAR FROM
THE GENERAL FUND. HOW DO YOU SEE
THE PROGRESS HAPPENING? IF THE
FUN WAS OF THE 31 $1 IS TO BE
ALLOCATED TO CONTINUE TO MEET
THE GOAL TO GET TO 18% BECAUSE
IT SEEMS THAT ESPECIALLY FOR U
èC, BERKELEY, U èC L A, UM, TO
GET TO THAT 18% IS GONNA REQUIRE
THE ADMISSION OF A MUCH HIGHER
PERCENTAGE OF CALIFORNIANS. WE
DO INTEND TO CONTINUE TO GROW.
THE ENROLMENT OF CALIFORNIA
STUDENTS, HOPEFULLY ABOVE JUST A
REPLACEMENT OF THE NON
RESIDENTS, STUDENTS, UM SOME
FACTORS THAT CAN INFLUENCE A
CAMPUS'S ABILITY TO TAKE ON NEW
ENROLLMENT. OR, UM THINGS LIKE
THEIR CLASSROOM CAPACITY. FOR
EXAMPLE, YOU SEE, SAN DIEGO IS
CURRENTLY GETTING VERY CLOSE.
THERE ARE NOW AT THEIR REGULAR
CLASSROOMS AT OVER 100%
UTILIZATION, WHICH MEANS THAT
THEY HAVE TO BUILD NEW CLASSROOM
BUILDINGS OR SLOW DOWN. OVERALL
ENROLLMENT INCREASES. SANTA CRUZ
IS IN THE SAME POSITION AS WELL.
WE HAVE SOME MAJORS AS WELL THAT
ARE IMPACTED BY, UH, THE
CLASSROOM UTILIZATION. UM, OUR
INSTRUCTIONAL. TORIES AT SEVERAL
OF OUR CAMPUSES ARE NOW AT OVER
100% UTILIZATION, WHICH MEANS
THAT STEM FIELDS AT THOSE
CAMPUSES WILL HAVE TROUBLE
GROWING. UM SO WE NEED TO FOCUS
ON BUILDING NEW CLASSROOM AND
RESEARCH CAPACITY AT OUR MOST IN
DEMAND CAMPUSES TO MAKE CERTAIN
THAT WE CAN OFFER STUDENTS
SPACES. UH, WE WILL ALSO WANT TO
FOCUS ON INNOVATIVE PROGRAMS TO
PROVIDE NEW ROOM ON THE
CAMPUSES. FOR EXAMPLE, UC
BERKELEY IS NOW OFFERING THE
START ABROAD, WHICH IS A WAY TO
HAVE FRESHMEN STUDENTS DO AN
EDUCATION ABROAD YEAR AS OF
START AND THEN ARRIVE AT THE
CAMPUS FOR THEIR SOPHOMORE YEAR,
WHICH THEN ALLOWS THE CAMPUS TO
ENROLL A BIT MORE STUDENTS WHILE
SIMULTANEOUSLY HAVING MORE ROOM.
LIKE I SAID, BEFORE WE ARE
LOOKING AT, UM, INCREASING THE
THROUGHPUT OF STUDENTS. GETTING
GRADUATION RATES DOWN TO THAT
FOUR YEAR REMARK, UTILIZING
SUMMER SESSION AND ONLINE
COURSES AS WELL, SO THOSE ARE
SOME WAYS THAT WE CAN INCREASE
THE NUMBER OF ENROLMENT AT OUR
MOST INMAN CAMPUSES, BUT
CONSTRUCTION OF NEW FACILITIES,
UNFORTUNATELY, DOES HAVE TO BE
IN THERE SOMEWHERE. THANK YOU.
PLEASE. YOU CAN CLIMB WITH THE L
A Ó. UH, I JUST WANTED TO
PROVIDE SOME CONTEXT TO THAT.
LAST REMARK THERE. UM, EVERY TWO
YEARS YOU SEE COMPLETE A
FACILITY UTILIZATION REPORT THAT
, UH, DOCUMENTS HOW EACH CAMPUS
IS CLASSROOM AND LAB SPACE, UH,
MEASURES UP WHEN COMPARED TO
LEGISLATIVE, UH, UTILIZATION
STANDARDS. UM MY COLLEAGUE AT S¼
CORRECT TO IDENTIFY THAT AT SAN
DIEGO. THEY ARE CURRENTLY ABOVE
A UTILIZATION CAPACITY WITH
RESPECT TO CLASSROOM AND
TEACHING LAB SPACE. UH, SOME OF
THE OTHER HIGH DEMAND CAMPUSES,
NAMELY BERKELEY AND LOS ANGELES,
THEY ARE, UH, SUBSTANTIALLY
BELOW THAT AMOUNT, WITH BERKELEY
BEING AT ONLY 78% IN L, A AT 67%
OF LEGISLATIVE CAPACITY FOR
CLASSROOM SPACE. AND WITH
RESPECT TO LAB SPACE, BERKELEY'S
AT 68% WHILE LOS ANGELES IS AT
77. SO WELL. IT MAY BE TRUE THAT
THE SAN DIEGO CAMPUS MAY BE
EXPERIENCING SOME SPACE
PRESSURES. THIS IS NOT UNIVERSAL
FOR EACH CAMPUS. THANK YOU SO
MUCH FOR THAT CONTEXT AND AS A
FOLLOW UP ON THAT QUESTION, AND
THIS IS A MERCY. JUST DISTRICT.
UH, BUT THE MARY MOUNT
CALIFORNIA UNIVERSITY. IS THAT
GONNA ADD ADDITIONAL CAPACITY
FOR U èC L A. IS THAT PART OF
THE FACILITY'S CALCULATION HERE?
UH, YES. UH, THANK YOU FOR THAT
QUESTION. ASSEMBLY MEMBER, FONG.
UM THE NEW SATELLITE CAMPUSES
WILL ADD ADDITIONAL ENROLLMENT
CAPACITY. UM THERE IS CURRENTLY
DISCUSSION ABOUT PLACING SOME,
UM, ACADEMIC PROGRAMS AT THAT,
UM, AT AT SATELLITE CAMPUS, AND
THROUGH THAT INCREASING THE
CAPACITY OF U èC L A TO ENROLL
NEW STUDENTS. THANK YOU. AND MY
FINAL QUESTION ON THIS PANEL IS,
UM I WAS READING A REPORT AND IT
SAYS THAT LOW INCOME STUDENT
ENROLLMENT HAS DROPPED
SIGNIFICANTLY FROM 41% IN 2014
TO 33% IN 2023 HÌ R A HAS
HIGHLIGHTED THE FAMILIES EARNING
100 $265,000 OR MORE AND IN
TERMS OF FIRST GENERATION
STUDENTS THE NUMBERS OF 42% IN
2013 TO NOW, 37% AND 2022. WHY
HAS THE EXPERIENCED A LOSS IN
LOW INCOME STUDENTS? AND WHAT
CAN WE DO TO ENSURE THAT MORE
LOW INCOME STUDENTS AND FIRST
GENERATION STUDENTS ARE ADMITTED
AND ENROLLED. SO THE UNIVERSITY
OF CALIFORNIA TAKES SEVERAL
STEPS TO ENSURE THAT LOW INCOME
AND FIRST GENERATION STUDENTS
HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND
OUR CAMPUSES. UH, THE PRIMARY OF
THESE IS OFFERING ADMISSION TO,
UM, THE TOP 9% OF EACH HIGH
SCHOOL. THAT EACH, UM HIGH
SCHOOL ELIGIBLE IN THE LOCAL
CONTEXT THAT PARTICIPATES IN A
PROGRAM. UM OF THOSE STUDENTS IN
THE TOP 9% WHO APPLIED TO UC AND
THAT WAY WE GET HIGH SCHOOLERS
FROM ALL AROUND THE STATE FROM
VARIOUS NEIGHBORHOODS, AND
EVERYONE HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO
ATTEND, EVEN IF THEY ARE
CURRENTLY ATTENDING AN L èC FF
PLUS HIGH SCHOOL, THE TOP 9% OF
THOSE STUDENTS IN THAT HIGH
SCHOOL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO
ATTEND U èC. SO THAT IS ONE WAY
THAT WE ARE TRY TO GET STUDENTS
FROM ALL INCOME CLASSES. UM, IN
2022, THE LEGISLATURE GAVE US
$22 MILLION TO EXPAND THE èC P
A PROGRAMS WHICH ARE PREPARATION
PROGRAMS FOR HIGH SCHOOLERS AND
COMMUNITY COLLEGE STUDENTS TO
ATTEND U èC. WE ARE NOW ALSO
INCLUDING ADVICE ON FINANCIAL
AID TO ALL THE STUDENTS WHO ARE
PARTICIPATING IN THOSE CPAP
PROGRAMS, AND THE FUNDS IN 2022
ALLOWED US TO DOUBLE THE SIZE OF
THOSE PROGRAMS, WHICH HAS BEEN
GREAT. SO THOSE ARE SOME WAYS
THAT WE'RE TRYING ACTIVELY TO
RECRUIT LOW INCOME AND
UNDERSERVED STUDENTS TO USE ONE
NOTE ABOUT THE, UM DEFINITION OF
LOW INCOME HERE IS PELL ELIGIBLE
STUDENTS, AND THAT IS A
DEFINITION OF THE INCOME LEVEL
THERE IS SET BY THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT, AND IT HAS NOT
REALLY KEPT PACE WITH INFLATION
AND WITH CALIFORNIA'S, UH, COST
OF LIVING. SO CURRENTLY A FAMILY
WITH TWO INCOME EARNERS HAS TO
MAKE LESS THAN 66,000 A YEAR TO
BE ELIGIBLE FOR THAT STUDENT TO
BE PELL ELIGIBLE IN CALIFORNIA,
THE MEDIAN INCOME RIGHT NOW,
ACCORDING TO THE U S¼ CENSUS IN
2022 WAS ABOUT 91,000 FOR A
FAMILY WITH TWO INCOME EARNERS.
SO THE, UM DEFINITION OF THE LOW
INCOME STUDENT. THERE IS NOT
QUITE KEEPING UP PACE WITH
CALIFORNIA'S COST OF LIVING AND
SALARIES BEING EARNED HERE. UM,
ANOTHER POINT TO MAKE THERE IS
THAT THE HE ZERO EXPECTED FAMILY
CONTRIBUTION. LIMIT IS $29,000
PARENTAL INCOME FOR, UM, A
SINGLE YEAR AND IN CALIFORNIA
WITH OUR MINIMUM WAGE IF AN
INDIVIDUAL IS WORKING FULL TIME
THEY ONE PARENT WORKING FULL
TIME FOR A MINIMUM WAGE. THEY
WOULD NOT QUALIFY FOR THAT. SO
UH, IT'S SET QUITE LOW, AND, UM,
IT'S PERHAPS NOT REFLECTIVE OF
HOW THE STUDENTS MIGHT FEEL
ABOUT THEIR OWN INCOME LEVEL AND
THE FAMILY'S ABILITY TO AFFORD.
THE UNIVERSITY FEES AND COST OF
ATTENDANCE. WE DO ENCOURAGE ALL
OF OUR STUDENTS TO FILL OUT THE
FAFSA BECAUSE IT IS NECESSARY TO
GET THE CAL GRANT AND TO GET THE
UNIVERSITY'S OWN INSTITUTIONAL
AID AND SCHOLARSHIPS AND THE
INCOME LIMITS FOR THOSE ARE MUCH
HIGHER THAN THE PELL ELIGIBLE.
THANK YOU. I JUST EMPHASIZE
ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO CAN
CONTINUE TO CONTINUE TO ADMIT
MORE IN STATE, CALIFORNIA,
ESPECIALLY AT THE MOST IMPACTED
CAMPUSES. THE MAN IS SUPER SUPER
HIGH. WE HEAR FROM OUR
CONSTITUENTS EACH AND EVERY DAY
ABOUT THIS CRITICAL ISSUE TO
EXPAND ACCESS FOR IN STATE
RESIDENTS. UH, THANK YOU, MR
CHAIR. THANK YOU. UH, I WANNA
ASK CLARIFYING QUESTION ON THE
9% IS THAT A GUARANTEE THAT IF
YOU ARE IN THE TOP 9% OF EVERY
SINGLE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC HIGH
SCHOOLER, YOU'RE GUARANTEED
ADMISSION INTO THE INTO A U
SCHOOL, NOT THE SCHOOL OF YOUR
CHOICE. YES WITH THE CAVEAT THAT
IF YOU APPLY TO CERTAIN MAJORS,
THEY MAY ALREADY BE FULL RIGHT
IF SOMEBODY IS APPLYING TO THE
ENGINEERING MAJOR AT U, èC L A
OR BERKELEY WHICH ARE EXTREMELY
SELECTIVE AND HIGH DEMAND. THEY
MIGHT NOT GET IN, EVEN IF
THEY'RE IN THE TOP 9% OF THEIR
CLASS. SO DEFINITELY A CAVEAT.
UM OF PERHAPS WHY SOME STUDENTS
ARE NOT, UH, FROM FROM CERTAIN
BACKGROUNDS, NOT GETTING INTO
OUR SCHOOLS. THE OTHER THING I
JUST LIKE TO NOTE THAT WE NEED
TO BE COGNIZANT OF IS THAT LIKE
A KID IN SAN DIEGO WHO COMES
FROM A LOWER INCOME FAMILY. SUCH
AS MYSELF MAY NOT WANT TO, UM OR
BELIEVE YOU CAN AFFORD TO LEAVE
YOUR OWN HOMETOWN TO ATTEND A
SCHOOL AND THEREFORE, UM,
BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THE
ADMISSIONS POLICIES IS NOT
ADMITTED INTO ANY CAMPUS OR YOUR
HOME CAMPUS, BUT, UM IT IS TO
AID CAMPUS. WHATEVER IS
AVAILABLE, AND SO YOU MIGHT BE
LOSING SOME SOME KIDS, UM, I IF
THAT'S THE WAY THAT THOSE
DECISIONS ARE MADE SOMETHING TO
NOTE FROM STUDENTS THAT MY WIFE
WORKS ON A DAILY DAILY BASIS FOR
THE FIRST GENERATION KIDS AND
THIS IS THE CHALLENGES THAT THEY
FACE. UM I JUST WANTED TO ALSO
NOTE FOR YOU, UH, TO BRING BACK
TO THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT
IN TERMS OF SAN DIEGO WITH THE
CAPACITY ISSUES. UH, WE HAVE, UH
, OVER MANY YEARS IN SAN DIEGO,
UH, ATTEMPTED TO INTEREST U èC
S¼ Dð INTO OUR CHULA VISTA
EXPANSION OPPORTUNITIES. UM THE
YOUR CHANCELLOR, UH, DOWN IN SAN
DIEGO CHANCELLOR. KNOW WELL,
ABOUT PRETTY WELL ABOUT, UM
ABOUT THIS. WE'VE TALKED TO HIM
AND SO, UM, THERE'S
OPPORTUNITIES FOR GROWTH IN SAN
DIEGO. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ON
MAIN CAMPUS. AS YOU STATED
EARLIER. YOU'RE LOOKING FOR
ONLINE PROGRAMS IN DIFFERENT
WAYS. UH, I'M TELLING YOU HERE,
AND NOW THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES IN
IN CHULA VISTA TO DO THAT, AND
SO HOPEFULLY THAT'S SOMETHING
THAT YOU TAKE ADVANTAGE OF. BUT
I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MISTER
MEUCCI. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR
CHAIR. SO UH, MS BURTON AND I'VE
I'VE BEEN ON THIS COMMITTEE FOR
A NUMBER OF YEARS. AND, UH UH,
I, I BEEN BEATING ON THIS DRUM
OF, UH ADMITTING MORE CALIFORNIA
UH RESIDENTS, UM EVER SINCE I'VE
BEEN ON THIS COMMITTEE AND I
APPRECIATE THE, UH, THE CHAIR
AND BOTH THE CHAIR OF THIS
BUDGET SUB COMMITTEE AND THE
CHAIR OF OUR HIGHER EDUCATION
COMMITTEE, UH, HIGHLIGHTING, UH,
THE THIS IMPORTANT PRIORITY FOR
CALIFORNIA STUDENTS. SO I
RECENTLY MET A, UH A
CONSTITUENT, UM WHO GRADUATED
WITH A 4.67 GPA. SHE TOOK 12 A P
COURSES. UH, SHE WAS THE UH UH,
VARSITY CAPTAIN OF, UH I FORGET
WHICH WHICH, UH, ACTIVITY WAS,
BUT I KNOW SHE WAS A VARSITY
CAPTAIN. AND SHE APPLIED FOR, UH
UH, POLITICAL SCIENCE. AT UH,
THE FOUR MOST COMPETITIVE UC
CAMPUSES. AND SHE GOT REJECTED
AT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE
FOUR CAMPUSES. OH, YOU KNOW, WE
HEARD YOU BASICALLY SAY THAT. UH
UM WE ARE SETTING ASIDE AT LEAST
ABOUT ONE OUT OF FIVE OF EVERY
SEAT. UH AT AT THOSE CAMPUSES
FOR NON CALIFORNIA RESIDENTS.
WHAT WOULD YOU TELL THE STUDENT
IN TERMS OF WHY SHE CAN'T
ATTEND? UH YOU KNOW, THE UNIVE
UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA CAMPUS
OF HER DREAMS. THAT SOUNDS LIKE
A REALLY, REALLY AWFUL THING FOR
HER TO GO THROUGH, UM AND I
DON'T KNOW HER. WHY WHY EXACTLY?
HER APPLICATION WAS NOT
ACCEPTED. UM THE. IN TERMS OF
THE NUMBER OF SEATS AVAILABLE.
UM THE NON-RESIDENT SUPPLEMENTAL
TUITION IS NOW NECESSARY TO, UM
ALLOW US TO PAY FOR CAMPUS STAFF
AND FACULTY WHO TEACH OUR
RESIDENT STUDENTS AS WELL, UM,
THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE'RE
GETTING OVER A BILLION DOLLARS.
UM, IS USED AS PART OF THE BASE
BUDGET OF THE CAMPUSES AND HELPS
TO COVER ESSENTIALLY THE STATE
CHAIR FOR 1.8, CALIFORNIA
STUDENTS. III I UNDERSTAND YOU
KNOW YOU YOU, UH, PREVIOUSLY, UH
EXPLAINED WHY, YOU KNOW COMING
OUT OF THE GREAT RECESSION, THE
UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA UH, THE
LEGISLATURE HAD TO DRAMATICALLY
CUT THE UN UNIVERSITY OF
CALIFORNIA. UM, FUNDING DURING
THE GREAT RECESSION, AND, UH,
YOU KNOW, UM IN MY OPINION, THE,
UH THE LEGISLATURE SHOULD BE
FUNDING MORE FOR TO SUPPORT OUR
PUBLIC HIGHER EDUCATION SYSTEM,
THE WORLD'S BEST PUBLIC IRISH
EDUCATION SYSTEM. BUT II I JUST
WANT TO BRING HOME TO YOU. YOU
KNOW, WE'RE NOT JUST TALKING
ABOUT ABOUT BUDGET NUMBERS.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE WITH,
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, AS AS A AS A
PARENT OF A HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT.
UH, YOU KNOW, JUST A FRESHMAN AT
THIS POINT, JUST JUST STARTING
OFF, BUT II, I CAN APPRECIATE
HOW HARD THAT YOUNG WOMAN HAD TO
WORK TO GET THE 4.67 GPA WITH
THE 12, A P COURSES AND ALL OF
THE ACTIVITIES. THAT SHE HAD TO
DO. TO DO ALL THAT SHE DID
EVERYTHING. THAT SHE POSSIBLY
YOU KNOW THAT THAT THAT SHE KNEW
SHE HAD TO DO AND STILL YET HER
DREAM OF ATTENDING A UNIVERSITY
OF CALIFORNIA I. I FORGOT TO ADD
. SHE'S NOW ATTENDING A OUT OF
STATE PUBLIC UNIVERSITY. AND, UM
YEAH, AND SO IIII. I JUST WANTED
TO, YOU KNOW HUMANIZE, YOU KNOW,
GET BEYOND JUST THE BUDGET
NUMBERS TO REMIND OURSELVES THAT
, UH, WE WE'RE NOT JUST TALKING
ABOUT ABOUT YOU KNOW DOLLARS, UH
AND, UH, AND BUDGETS, BUT WE
WE'RE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR
CALIFORNIA KIDS THAT ARE
DREAMING TO GO, UH, TO A
UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA OF
THEIR DREAM CAMPUS OF THEIR
DREAM. UM MY. MY NEXT QUESTION
IS, YOU KNOW IF IT'S IF IT IS
ABOUT THE DOLLARS AND BUDGETS,
THEN, UM WHAT ABOUT THE OPTION
OF INCREASING FURTHER INCREASING
OUT OF STATE TUITION? THAT
OPTION REMAINS ON THE TABLE TO
INCREASE. NON-RESIDENT TUITION
IS A CHOICE BY THE REGIONS. AND
THEY, UM IT HAS COME UP.
CURRENTLY THE REGIONS ARE
OPERATING WITH THE TUITION
STABILITY PLAN, WHICH IS
INCREASING, UH, TUITION, STUDENT
SERVICES FEE AND NON RESIDENTS.
SUPPLEMENTAL TUITION BY 5% PER
YEAR FOR THE TUITION AND, UH,
STUDENT SERVICES FEE. IT'S ONLY
INCREASED WHEN THE STUDENT FIRST
AND ROLES THAT YOU SEE AND THEN
KEPT FLAT. UH, FOR SIX YEARS SO
THAT, UH, CALIFORNIA RESIDENTS,
STUDENTS WOULD HAVE THAT
STABILITY IN THEIR FEES AND NOT
SEE BIG INCREASES. UM JUST
BECAUSE THE UNIVERSITIES
FINANCIAL SITUATION MIGHT CHANGE
, BUT FOR THE NON RESIDENTS,
SUPPLEMENTAL TUITION THAT IS A
CHOICE BY THE UC REGIONS THEY
COULD MAKE. UM IF I MAY RETURN
TO THE ORIGINAL POINT, I DO WANT
TO HIGHLIGHT THE PRESIDENT DRAKE
IS VERY AWARE OF THESE
OPPORTUNITIES AND PERSONAL
STORIES OF STUDENTS. AND BECAUSE
OF THAT. WANTS TO CONTINUE TO
INCREASE ENROLLMENT THIS COMING
YEAR AND ALSO BEYOND THAT, UM,
THE INTENT OF THE, UH, 2030
CAPACITY PLAN, WHICH WOULD
INCREASE OUR ENROLLMENT BETWEEN
2000. UH, SORRY. 20 THREE 1000
STUDENTS AND 30 THREE 1000
STUDENTS IS INTENDED TO START
PROVIDING ADDITIONAL
OPPORTUNITIES SO THAT WE DON'T
TURN AWAY HIGHLY QUALIFIED
ASPIRING CALIFORNIA STUDENTS.
ALL RIGHT, UM. LAST UH, FOR THIS
PANEL, UM, THE LEGISLATIVE
ANALYST RAISED THE OPTION OF
TAPPING INTO THE, UH THE
UNRESTRICTED RESERVE OF I THINK
I HEARD $238 MILLION DID YOU SEE
CAMPUSES? THAT'S CORRECT. THE U
èC CAMPUSES CURRENTLY, AS OF
JUNE, 30TH HAD UNRESTRICTED
RESERVES OF $238 MILLION THAT
EQUATES TO ABOUT NINE DAYS OF
CASH ON HAND FOR OUR CAMPUSES,
UH, IN UNRESTRICTED FUNDS. THE
AMOUNT OF MONEY VARIES BY CAMPUS
, SO SOME CAMPUSES HAVE MORE
AVAILABLE THAN OTHERS. WE WOULD
PREFER NOT TO USE ONE TIME
RESERVES FOR THE PURPOSE OF
ENROLLMENT GROWTH BECAUSE THAT'S
AN ONGOING COST, AND THE MONEY
IS ONLY THERE ON A ONE TIME
BASIS. BUT IT IS, UM, IT IS
TECHNICALLY AN OPTION. OK I. I
WOULD JUST, UH AGAIN. UH UH.
WELL, II. I SHOULD HAVE, UH,
RAISED, UH, YOU KNOW THE EXAMPLE
OF MY CONSTITUENT UH, UH, WITH,
UH, WITH, UH, PRESIDENT DRAKE?
UH, YOU KNOW, AS A MEMBER OF THE
OF THE REGIONS, BUT, UH, I. I
WOULD JUST ASK THAT YOU CONVEY.
HOPEFULLY YOU KNOW THE, UH SOME
REASONS ARE ARE WATCHING THIS
HEARING LISTENING TO THIS
HEARING, UH, YOU KNOW TO, UH
REMIND THEM OF THE REAL, UH,
STORIES THAT WE HEAR FROM OUR
CONSTITUENTS. UH CALIFORNIA KIDS
WANTED TO GO TO THE UNIVERSITY
OF CALIFORNIA. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU, MR MARTUCCI. I'M GONNA ASK,
UM YOU TO GO BACK AND, UM, GET
US MORE INFORMATION. I DID SOME
VERY, VERY ROUGH. MATH GET USED
TO IT. I DO THIS A LOT, YOU
KNOW, UH, WHEN I MET COMMITTEES
AND THERE IS 20,000. THIS IS
ROUGHLY NUMBERS, MR. MITSUI,
LISTEN, YOU CAN CHECK MY MATH
20,000 NON-RESIDENTS IN THE 20
THREE 24 CURRENT SCHOOL YEAR. AT
A COST OF 31 MILLION DIVIDED
INTO WHICH IS THE COST OF
ACCEPTING MORE CALIFORNIANS THAT
WE ARE PAYING OUT OF OUR BUDGET
31 MILLION. THAT WOULD BE A
$1500 TUITION INCREASE TO NON
RESIDENTS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.
FOR A $1500 INCREASE TO
NON-RESIDENTS. WE CAN GUARANTEE
1000 MORE CALIFORNIANS EVERY
SINGLE YEAR WITHOUT GENERAL FUND
SUPPLANTING THAT THAT IS LESS
THAN A 5% INCREASE OF WHAT YOUR
TUITION FEES ARE NOW. I WOULD
ASK THAT YOU, UM GO. UH BACK, UM
AND COME BACK. UH, AND BE
PREPARED AT A FUTURE HEARING TO,
UM TO MORE THOROUGHLY ADDRESS
QUESTION. MISTER MATTUCCI ASKED
ABOUT WHY NOT THAT BEING THE
OPTION IN ORDER TO INCREASE MORE
CALIFORNIANS AND IF WE CAN'T GET
THAT IN, UM IN THE SERIES OF
BUDGET HEARINGS, AND PERHAPS WE
SHOULD CONSIDER HAVING A SPECIAL
HEARING SPECIFICALLY ON THIS
ISSUE OF OUT OF STATE RESIDENT
TUITION FEES. UM AND WHAT CAN BE
DONE TO ENSURE THAT MORE
CALIFORNIANS HAVE ACCESS. UM AND
, UH AND CERTAINLY OTHER WAYS
THAT WE CAN BE SUPPORTIVE TO
YOUR MISSION OF SERVING AS MANY
CALIFORNIANS AS POSSIBLE. SO UM,
I'D ASK THAT WE DO THAT AND WE
WILL HOLD THIS ISSUE OPEN AND
WE'LL FURTHER DISCUSS THAT IN
THE FUTURE. UM, THANK YOU ALL I
APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND YOUR
RESPONSES TO THE QUESTIONS WE
WILL NOW MOVE ON TO THE CSU
ENROLLMENT UPDATE. UM WE HAVE A
DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE,
LEGISLATIVE ANALYST OFFICE AND
THE CALIFORNIA STATE UNIVERSITY
SYSTEM HERE, SO WE WILL START
WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE
FIRST. HEAR YOUR, UH, REPORT.
AND ON THE PROPOSAL FOR THIS
BUDGET YEAR. AND THEN WE'LL
CONTINUE WITH THE L Ó AND THEN
èC S¼ U. GO AHEAD. GOOD
AFTERNOON, SO GOOD AFTERNOON, MR
CHAIR, AN ASSEMBLY MEMBER, MARCI
DEVIN MITCHELL WITH THE
DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE. I'LL KEEP
THIS RELATIVELY BRIEF, GIVEN
THAT THE GOVERNOR'S BUDGET
PROPOSAL FOR THE CALIFORNIA
STATE UNIVERSITY WILL BE
DISCUSSED AT A FUTURE
SUBCOMITTEE HEARING. AS I
UNDERSTAND IT, THE
ADMINISTRATION EXPECTS THE èC
S¼ U TO CONTINUE MAKING PROGRESS
TOWARDS THE SYSTEM'S GOAL OF 1%
ANNUAL ENROLLMENT GROWTH DURING
EACH YEAR OF THE MULTI YEAR
COMPACT AGREEMENT. THE COMPACT
ALSO SPECIFIES THIS ENROLLMENT
INCREASE MUST MAINTAIN AT A
MINIMUM A SHARE OF NEW
UNDERGRADUATE TRANSFER STUDENT
ENROLLMENTS THAT IS CONSISTENT
WITH EXISTING ADMISSIONS
PRACTICES FOR NEW UNDERGRADUATE
ENROLLMENTS. ENROLLMENT GROWTH,
AMONG OTHER SHARED PRIORITIES IS
SUPPORTED BY ANNUAL 5% GENERAL
FUND BASE INCREASES WITH THE
CAVEAT THAT DUE TO THE BUDGET
SHORTFALL THIS YEAR, THE 2024 25
BASE INCREASE HAS BEEN DEFERRED
TO 2025 26. THANK YOU AND I'LL
LET OTHERS ON THE PANEL SPEAK
AND CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS AT THE
APPROPRIATE TIME. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. LISA KING WITH THE L
A Ó WHILE COMING IN TWO ASPECTS
OF èC S¼ U S¼ ENROLLMENT FIRST,
ITS CURRENT YEAR ENROLMENT
GROWTH. AND THE NEXT HOW IT'S
ACTUAL ENROLLMENT LEVEL COMPARES
TO ITS HISTORICAL FUNDING LEVEL.
REGARDING CURRENT HAIR
ENROLLMENT GROWTH. THE 2023
BUDGET ACT SET FORTH AN
EXPECTATION FOR èC S¼ U TO ADD
4057 RESIDENT FULL TIME
EQUIVALENT UNDERGRADUATE
STUDENTS THIS YEAR COMPARED TO
THE ACTUAL ENROLMENT LEVEL LAST
YEAR. CSU ESTIMATES IT IS ON
TRACK TO MEET AND PERHAPS
SOMEWHAT EXCEED THIS TARGET.
INCREASE HOWEVER, IS LARGELY
ATTRIBUTABLE TO A CHANGE IN THE
SUMMER TERM. HISTORICALLY MANY
OF èC S¼ U S¼ SUMMER COURSES
WERE SELF SUPPORTED, MEANING
THAT THE INSTRUCTIONAL COSTS
WERE COVERED THROUGH COURSE FEES
AND NOT STATE GENERAL FUND.
STUDENTS ENROLLED IN THESE
COURSES DO NOT COUNT TOWARD THE
STATE'S ENROLLMENT TARGETS. LAST
SUMMER, èC S¼ U CONVERTED A
NUMBER OF ITS SELF SUPPORTED
COURSES TO STATE SUPPORTED
MEANING THAT THE STUDENTS IN
THOSE COURSES NEWLY COUNT TOWARD
THE STATE ENROLLMENT TARGETS. WE
DON'T THINK THAT THIS APPROACH
TO ENROLLMENT GROWTH LIKELY
ALIGNS WITH THE LEGISLATURE'S
INTENT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T ADD
NEW STUDENTS. IT REALLY JUST
RECLASSIFIES THE COURSES THEY'RE
INVOLVED IN. FOR ANOTHER WAY TO
LOOK AT CURRENT YOUR ENROLLMENT
GROWTH. YOU COULD LOOK AT FALL
TRENDS IN 2020 THREE COMPARED TO
LAST YEAR, AND WHEN WE LOOKED AT
THOSE NUMBERS, WE SAW THAT FULL
TIME EQUIVALENT. STUDENTS WERE
ROUGHLY FLAT AND HAD COUNT WAS
DOWN SLIGHTLY. NEXT I WANTED TO
TURN TO LOOKING AT èC S¼ U S¼
ACTUAL ENROLLMENT LEVEL COMPARED
TO ITS FUNDED LEVEL. IN YOUR
AGENDA ON PAGE 13. THERE IS A
CHART THAT SHOWS THIS COMPARISON
OVER THE PAST DECADE. THE BARS
IN THE CHURCH. èC S¼ IS ACTUAL
ENROLLMENT LEVEL WHILE THE LINE
SHOWS ITS TARGET ENROLLMENT,
ALSO SOMETIMES KNOWN AS ITS
FUNDED LEVEL. IS FUNDED TARGET
IS A NUMBER THAT èC S¼ U HAS
TRACKED FOR MANY YEARS,
REFLECTING THE STUDENTS FOR
WHICH IT'S RECEIVED STATE
FUNDING TO ADD OVER THOSE YEARS.
FOR MUCH OF THE PAST DECADE, èC
S¼ U'S ACTUAL ENROLLMENT LEVEL
EXCEEDED ITS TARGET ENROLLMENT.
BUT THAT STORY CHANGED IN THE
LAST FEW YEARS. AS A RESULT OF
THE ENROLLMENT DECLINES IT'S
EXPERIENCED SINCE THE START OF
THE PANDEMIC. AND AS OF THE
CURRENT YEAR 2020 THREE 24 èC
S¼ U ACTUAL ENROLLMENT LEVEL IS
ESTIMATED TO BE ABOUT 19,000
FULL TIME EQUIVALENT STUDENTS
BELOW ITS TARGET LEVEL, OR ABOUT
5% BELOW. SO AS YOU'VE HEARD
FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE.
THE GOVERNOR'S EXPECTATION IS
THAT èC S¼ U S¼ FUNDED TARGET
GROW BY ANOTHER 1% IN 2024 25.
WITH THE FUNDS COMING FROM
WHATEVER MEANS èC S¼ U CHOOSES
TO ADDRESS THE DEFERRED BASE
INCREASE. WE DO NOT THINK THIS
APPROACH IS WARRANTED, GIVEN
THAT èC S¼ U IS BELOW ITS
EXISTING ENROLLMENT TARGET. WE
DO NOT THINK THAT THERE IS A
NEED TO FURTHER GROW THAT TARGET
FOR 2024 25. AND WE RECOMMEND
INSTEAD HOLDING THE TARGET FLAT.
IN THE COMING MONTHS WHERE THE
STATE BUDGET CONDITION TO
CONTINUE TO DETERIORATE AND
LEGISLATURE FINDS ITSELF IN NEED
OF ADDITIONAL BUDGET SOLUTION.
IT COULD ALSO CONSIDER LOWERING
èC S¼ èC S¼ FUNDED TARGET TO
BETTER ALIGN WITH ITS ACTUAL
ENROLLMENT LEVEL. THANK YOU
HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS. THANK
YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS
NATHAN EVANS. I SERVE AS DEPUTY
VICE CHANCELLOR AND CHIEF
ACADEMIC OFFICER FOR THE
CALIFORNIA STATE UNIVERSITY. CHA
CHA VARES AND SUBCOMITTEE
MEMBERS. THANK YOU FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH YOU
TODAY. UH, I AM PLEASED TO
REPORT THAT THE CSU IS
INCREMENTALLY CLOSING THE GAP
TOWARD THE STATE'S ENROLLMENT
TARGET. CONTRARY TO SOME RECENT
STORIES, WHICH FOCUSED ON èC S¼
U ENROLLMENT OUTCOMES DURING THE
PANDEMIC ENROLLMENT FOR THE
CURRENT COLLEGE YEAR, 20 THREE
24 HAS INCREASED BY 2% MORE THAN
7500 FTS STUDENTS OVER LAST
COLLEGE YEAR. THIS WAS ACHIEVED
THROUGH INTENTIONAL WORK TO
RETAIN AND SUPPORT CONTINUING
STUDENTS RETURNING TO HIGHER
UNIT LOADS, RETAINING STUDENTS
DURING SUMMER SESSIONS AND
REENGAGING STUDENTS WHO STOPPED
OUT FOR A TERM. AND PROUDLY, THE
CSU ENROLLED THE LARGEST
FRESHMAN CLASS OF CALIFORNIA
RESIDENTS IN THE CSU'S HISTORY
MORE THAN 64,000, CALIFORNIANS
LAST FALL. THAT CLASS MIRRORS
THE DIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA
TODAY, 56% OF THOSE NEW STUDENTS
IDENTIFY AS LATINO AND HALF OF
THOSE STUDENTS WILL BE THE FIRST
IN THEIR FAMILY TO EARN A
COLLEGE DEGREE. I WOULD SHARE
THAT AFTER ENROLLING MORE
CALIFORNIA RESIDENTS THAN FUNDED
BY THE STATE FOR A DECADE
BETWEEN 2011 AND 2022 BETWEEN 3
TO 6% ABOVE THE SYSTEM TARGET
DURING THAT PERIOD, AND YOU CAN
SEE THAT ENROLLMENT TREND ON
PAGE 14 OF THE AGENDA. HOWEVER
THE IMPACTS OF THE PANDEMIC
DISRUPTED THAT OVER ENROLLMENT
TRAJECTORY. BUT THE èC S¼ U
SYSTEM AND CAMPUSES HAVE
RESPONDED INTENTIONALLY FOR BOTH
THE SHORT TERM AND LONG TERM.
UNDERGRADUATE APPLICATIONS FOR
FALL 2024 HAVE INCREASED OVER
THE PRIOR YEAR. FIRST TIME
FRESHMAN APPLICATIONS ARE UP BY
5% AND TRANSFER APPLICATIONS
DESPITE AS WE'VE HEARD, UH,
SUSTAINED DECLINES IN COMMUNITY
COLLEGE ENROLLMENT ARE NOW UP BY
1. WE LOOKED FORWARD TO
SUSTAINING THIS POSITIVE
MOMENTUM BY YIELDING AND
WELCOMING THOSE ADMITTED
STUDENTS THIS FALL. IN
CONSULTATION WITH OUR UNIVERSITY
PRESIDENTS. WE RECENTLY LAID THE
GROUNDWORK FOR IMPLEMENTING A
MULTI YEAR ENROLLMENT AND BUDGET
REALLOCATION PLAN THAT WILL
BETTER ALIGN èC S¼ U RESOURCES
WITH CURRENT STUDENT DEMAND BY
CAMPUS. WE'VE AUGMENTED
STATEWIDE RECRUITMENT THROUGH A
TARGETED ENROLLMENT, MARKETING
CONTRACT AND DIGITAL ADVERTISING
. WE'VE PARTNERED WITH THE L, A
UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT TO
BETTER SUPPORT SCHOOLS WITH LOW
COL COLLEGE GOING RATES, AND
WE'RE EXPLORING OPPORTUNITIES
FOR SIMILAR PARTNERSHIPS ACROSS
THE STATE. EARLIER THIS MONTH,
ALUMINA FOUNDATION AWARDED THE
èC S¼ U, ONE OF EIGHT AWARDS IN
THE NATION AS PART OF THE GREAT
ADMISSIONS REDESIGN. THE SEA
WILL BE REDESIGNING THE ONLINE
APPLICATION TO ALLOW CAMPUSES
USING THE STATE'S NEW CRADLE TO
CAREER DATA SYSTEM AND IN
PARTNERSHIP WITH LOCAL SCHOOL
DISTRICTS TO DIRECTLY ADMIT ALL
èC S¼ U ELIGIBLE APPLICANTS IN
A SCHOOL OR A DISTRICT WITHOUT
STUDENTS, INITIATING AN
APPLICATION. THIS STRATEGY IS
PARTICULARLY OF INTEREST TO A
NUMBER OF OUR CAMPUSES IN
NORTHERN CALIFORNIA, WHICH HAVE
SEEN MULTIYEAR DECLINES IN
ENROLLMENT TIED TO POPULATION
CHANGES IN THEIR REGION. AND TO
BOLSTER TRANSFER ENROLLMENT.
LAST SUMMER, THE èC S¼ U
LAUNCHED OUR TRANSFER SUCCESS
PATHWAY BUILDING ON 2021
LEGISLATION OFFERING STUDENTS
DUAL ADMISSION TO A COMMUNITY
COLLEGE IN THE èC S¼ U
SIMULTANEOUSLY. THIS GIVES US
THE OPPORTUNITY TO REACH OUT AND
ENGAGE STUDENTS EARLIER IN THEIR
JOURNEY TO A FOUR YEAR DEGREE. I
SHARE THESE EXAMPLES AS A WAY TO
SHOW OUR SYSTEM AND OUR
UNIVERSITIES ARE CONTINUING TO
PLAY STRONG FOCUS ON STRATEGIC
ENROLLMENT PLANNING WELL INTO
THE FUTURE. I THANK YOU AGAIN
FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. I
WELCOME ANY QUESTIONS AT THE
CLOSE OF THIS PANEL. UH, I ALSO
WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE MY COLLEAGUE
, ASSISTANT VICE CHANCELLOR FOR
BUDGET RYAN STORM FOR ANY
QUESTIONS THAT ARE BUDGET
SPECIFIC. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH TO ALL THREE OF YOU. I
WOULD LIKE TO START WITH TRYING
TO MAYBE GET ON THE SAME PAGE AS
IT RELATES TO, UH, TARGET
ENROLLMENT AND HOW WE COUNT
STUDENTS BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S
A LITTLE BIT OF A THERE IS MAYBE
A DISCONNECT HERE. UM YOU KNOW
THE L A Ó TALKS ABOUT THE, UM
MEETING OR OR MAYBE THE GROWTH
IF YOU WILL OF F Tð AS A RESULT
OF THE STATE SUPPORT BECOMING
STATE SUPPORTED VERSUS SELF
SUPPORTED, UM, COURSEWORK IN THE
IN THE SUMMER, MAYBE TO, UH TO
THE SYSTEM. UH, IS THAT IN FACT
WHAT? WHAT HAPPENED? IS IT THAT
DID DURING, UH, THE SUMMER OF? I
GUESS THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN LAST
SUMMER. UM YOU BEGAN TO, UH,
OFFER MORE, UM, STATE SUPPORTED
I IS IT COURSEWORK TO STUDENTS
OR OR WHY THAT YOU CAN SEE FOR
YOURSELF. FIGURE NINE THERE. THE
TREMENDOUS SHIFT IN IN COMPLETE,
ALMOST FLIP, UM FOR MORE STATE
SUPPORTED F Tð E STUDENTS, UM TO
SELF-SUPPORT AND WHAT WHAT
CHANGE OCCURRED IN THE SYSTEM.
SO EACH INDIVIDUAL CAMPUS
ACTUALLY DETERMINES HOW THEY
HANDLE SUMMER ENROLLMENT, UM,
DURING PERIODS AT WHICH, AS I
DESCRIBED THE DECADE BEFORE, IN
WHICH THE èC S¼ U AS A WHOLE
WAS EXCEEDING ITS ENROLLMENT
TARGET. UM WE WERE THE STATE
FUNDED ENROLLMENT TARGET BETWEEN
2011 AND 2022. CAMPUSES
BASICALLY SPREAD THAT F Tð E
PREDOMINANTLY ACROSS THE
ACADEMIC YEAR, WHICH WOULD BE
FALL AND SPRING SO THE FINITE
AMOUNT OF THE TARGET HAS BEEN
SPREAD ACROSS THOSE THOSE TWO
TERMS SOME CAMPUSES, INCLUDING
SAN DIEGO, FRANCISCO AND, MOST
RECENTLY, SAN LUIS OBISPO HAD
BEGUN USING SUMMER AS A STATE
REGULAR STATE SUPPORTED TERM ARE
OFFERING STATE SUPPORTED COURSES
SO THAT THEY COULD HELP STUDENTS
STAY ON A TRAJECTORY TO A FASTER
TIME 2 DEGREES UM, A DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN SOME STATE SUPPORT AND
SELF SUPPORT ARE IT'S A
DIFFERENT TYPICALLY CADRE OF
STUDENTS, UH, STUDENTS THAT ARE
PAYING AND ATTENDING, AND SELF
SUPPORT COURSES ARE PAYING THE
FULL COST OF THAT ATTENDANCE
THAT REGISTRATION VERSUS WHEN A
SECTION OF COURSE SECTION CAN BE
OFFERED TO STATE SUPPORT.
STUDENTS HAVE ACCESS TO
FINANCIAL AID, INSTITUTIONAL AND
FEDERAL TO OFTEN PAY FOR THAT,
SO IT WAS AN INTENTIONAL CHOICE
BY SOME OF OUR CAMPUSES
BEGINNING IN SUMMER, 20 THREE,
SOME THAT ARE HAVE AS WE'VE
DESCRIBED AND YOU SEE IN THE
DATA, UH, HAVE NOW SEEN
SUSTAINED DECLINE, SO SOME OF
THAT IT WAS A MORE STRATEGIC
DECISION TO TRY TO PROVIDE
OPPORTUNITIES THROUGHOUT THE
YEAR TO ATTRACT ENROLLMENT ON
ANOTHER CAMPUSES THAT ARE AT
THEIR TARGETS, AND IN MANY CASES
STILL EXCEEDING IT WAS A WAY FOR
THEM TO HELP STUDENTS CONTINUE
TO ACCELERATE THE TIME 2 DEGREES
SO WE STILL HAVE ABOUT HALF
CAMPUSES THAT ARE CURRENTLY
OPERATING IN SELF SUPPORT, BUT
IT HAS BEEN A CAMPUS BY CAMPUS.
UH, BUT JUST TO BE REALLY CLEAR.
SO SOME DID SWITCH TO MORE OF
THE, UM, STATE SUPPORT OF GOT
IT, OK, AND THEN WHEN IT COMES
TO THE ACTUAL NUMBER. UM AND HOW
YOU COUNT THE MAYBE L. A Ó CAN
JUMP IN HERE FIRST, UM IN YOUR
OPENING COMMENTS, OR YOU
MENTIONED OR THE COMMENTS JUST
NOW. YOU MENTIONED THAT, UM THE
TARGETS MIGHT NOT ALIGN TO
LEGISLATIVE TARGETS, BUT I'M
TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. I ASKED
THIS QUESTION IN THE PREVIOUS
PANEL. ARE WE COUNTING? UM HEAD
COUNTS OR WE WE'RE USING F Tð E
AS A WAY TO MEASURE AND I THINK
WE JUST HAVE TO BE CONSISTENT.
AND SO I'D LIKE TO GET YOUR, UH
MAYBE SOME HISTORICAL
PERSPECTIVE ON HOW THAT'S BEEN
MEASURED. SURE SO BOTH THE
BUDGET ACT TARGETS AND THE
HISTORICAL FUNDED TARGETS ARE IN
FULL TIME EQUIVALENT STUDENT OK
COUNTS SO F COUNTS. THERE IS
ALSO DATA AVAILABLE ON A HEAD
COUNT BASIS BY TERM, BUT BUT
THEN, UM IN TERMS OF HITTING THE
NOW THAT WE'VE ESTABLISHED THAT
IT'S MEASURING THIS ON F Tð
BASIS IN TERMS OF HITTING THE
TARGET. I KIND OF HEARD TWO
DIFFERENT THINGS. UH, èC S¼ U
SAID. YOU'RE EITHER REALLY CLOSE
OR YOU ARE HITTING THE TARGET. I
THINK I HEARD BUT THE DATA THAT
WE HAVE HERE, UM FROM FIGURE
EIGHT SHOWS A TARGET ENROLLMENT.
UM, YOU KNOW, BY AT LEAST 10
15,000 HERE. UM UH, WE'VE WAS
NOT HIT OR IS NOT BEING
CURRENTLY HIT IN THE 20 THREE 24
YEAR. YES I THINK I UNDERSTAND
THE QUESTION NOW THE FIGURE ON
PAGE 13 OF YOUR AGENDA THAT LINE
TRACKS THE TARGET ENROLMENT AS
THE HISTORICAL NUMBER OF
STUDENTS THAT THE STATE HAS
FUNDED OVER TIME. SO IN MOST
YEARS IN THE BUDGET, THE STATE
WILL ADD A CERTAIN NUMBER OF
STUDENTS, AND THAT LINE IS
ESSENTIALLY A RUNNING TOTAL OF
THOSE GROWTH TARGETS. SEPARATE
FROM THAT LINE. LAST YEAR IN THE
2020 THREE BUDGET ACT, THE
STATES THAT AN EXPECTATION THAT
èC S¼ U ADD 4057 RESIDENT
UNDERGRADUATE STUDENTS. THOSE
4000 STUDENTS WERE ADDED NOT TO
THIS LINE IN THE CHART, BUT
RATHER TO èC S¼ U S¼ ACTUAL
ENROLLMENT LEVEL IN 2022 20
THREE, WHICH WAS A LOWER NUMBER.
MOREOVER, THOSE 4000 STUDENTS
AND THE BASELINE THEY WERE ADDED
TO SPECIFIC TO UNDERGRADUATES,
SO IT DOESN'T CAPTURE èC S¼ U'S
GRADUATE STUDENTS. SO ALL THAT'S
TO SAY THE TARGET THAT WAS SET
IN THE 2020 THREE BUDGET ACT IS
NOT DIRECTLY CONNECTED TO THE
LINE THAT YOU'RE SEEING IN THIS
FIGURE. AND TO COMPLICATE THE
STORY, èC S¼ U DOES APPEAR TO
BE ON TRACK TO MEET THE 2023
BUDGET ACT EXPECTATION, BUT
REMAINS WELL BELOW THE LINE IN
THE FIGURE. OK SO IT'S MEETING
THE BUDGETED. I WANNA AGAIN
COMPARE THE PREVIOUS PANEL. WE
TALKED ABOUT BUDGET WHAT WAS
BUDGETED FOR AND THE F Tð? UM
WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME NOW, HERE
FOR THE èC S¼ U SYSTEM.
BUDGETED AND ACTUAL F Tð E S¼
ARE ALIGNING. THE ACTUAL OF TEAS
ARE ESTIMATED TO MEET THE TARGET
THAT WAS SET IN THE 2020 THREE
BUDGET ACT, BUT NOT THE
HISTORICAL FUNDED LEVEL THAT IS
SHOWN IN THIS FIGURE, SO THERE
ARE TWO DIFFERENT WAYS TO LOOK
AT BUDGETED INVOLVEMENT AT.
UNFORTUNATELY I'M BEING SOMEONE
ELSE CAN HELP ME OUT ON THAT
QUESTION, UNLESS YOU HAVE
ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD. MAYBE TO
ADD TO MISS KING'S POINT. YEAH
SO THE èC S¼ U DOES ANTICIPATE
WHILE WE STILL ARE, UH, AS THE U
èC DESCRIBED GETTING OUR FINAL
SPRING NUMBERS WE EXPECT TO MEET
THE ADDITIONAL ENROLLMENT TARGET
THAT WAS BUILT INTO THE THREE
BUDGET. YES TO MISS KING'S POINT
AS WELL. WE WILL STILL BE BELOW
THE SYSTEM THAT, UH, THAT RISING
LINE. AND THAT THAT GAP HAS
NARROWED AS WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO
GROW, BUT WE WILL BE BELOW THAT
OVERARCHING LINE, BUT WE'VE MET
THE ONE YEAR ENROLLMENT TARGET.
OK UH, LET ME BEFORE I TURN IT
OVER. ASK ABOUT THE VERY UM,
GLARING ISSUE OF, UM THE VAST
MAJORITY OF CAMPUSES DECLINING
IN ENROLLMENT IN, UH, WE'RE
TALKING DOUBLE DIGITS IN IN MOST
INSTANCES, UM I HEARD YOU
MENTION, AND I HEARD THIS PRIOR
THAT, UM THE SYSTEM IS GOING, UH
OR HAS IMPLEMENTED OR IS
IMPLEMENTING OR SOMEWHERE A
DIFFERENT FUNDING MECHANISM TO
ENSURE THAT THAT, UH, CAMPUSES
THAT HAVE THAT IN GROWTH AND
ENROLLMENT HAVE THE RESOURCES TO
ABSORB THAT GROWTH, WHILE
CAMPUSES THAT ARE SEEN, UM YOU
KNOW, SUBSTANTIAL DECREASE WILL
WILL SEE THE I DON'T KNOW IF
IT'S THE EQUIVALENT DECREASE,
BUT CERTAINLY A DECREASE IN
THEIR, UM, ALLOCATIONS FROM THE
SYSTEM. IN ONE WAY, IN MY
OPINION, UH, IT'S GOOD TO ENSURE
THAT THE CAMPUSES THAT ARE IN
HIGH DEMAND ARE RECEIVING
SUPPORTS TO ACCEPT THOSE
STUDENTS IF STUDENTS WANT TO GO
THERE, UM IF I'M BEING, UH, A
GOOD CALIFORNIAN, WE WANNA MAKE
SURE THAT, UH THROUGHOUT THE
STATE, WE HAVE A SYSTEM THAT
WORKS FOR PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN
DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE STATE. SO
THAT'S A LITTLE BIT CONCERNING
TO SEE. YOU KNOW, LITERALLY, UH,
20 32% AS YOU SEE HERE ON THE
AGENDA, DOUBLE DIGITS UP AND
DOWN. I AM NOT SO CONCERNED WITH
THE SINGLE DIGITS. I THINK THAT
THOSE WILL PROBABLY EVENTUALLY,
UM, BALANCE OUT. BUT, UM WHAT
SPECIFICALLY, UH, INITIATIVES
ARE BEING TAKEN TO ENSURE THAT
THESE CAMPUSES THROUGHOUT THE
STATE, UM ARE BECOMING MORE
EITHER MORE ATTRACTIVE OR WHAT?
WHAT WHAT'S THE RESEARCH,
TELLING YOU AS TO WHY THE
NUMBERS HAVE DECREASED SO
SIGNIFICANTLY? NÓ I. I
APPRECIATE THE QUESTION AND IT'S
CERTAINLY ONE THAT WE'RE
WRESTLING WITH AND HAVE BEEN
WRESTLING WITH IT. A SYSTEM AND
AN INDIVIDUAL CAMPUS LEVEL. UM I
THINK THERE ARE TWO. THERE ARE
TWO WAYS THAT WE ARE
STRATEGICALLY ADDRESSING THAT
ONE I SPOKE TO AND YOU
REFERENCED, WHICH WAS IS THE
ACTUAL INTERNAL REALLOCATION OF
ENROLLMENT TARGETS FROM SOME OF
THOSE CAMPUSES THAT HAVE SEEN
SUSTAINED DECLINES THAT ARE
LARGELY PREDICATED ON A
POPULATION AND ENROLLMENT
DECLINES IN THOSE REGIONS. SO,
FOR EXAMPLE, MANY OF THEM DO
TRACK IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA,
EITHER RURAL AREAS OR HIGH COST
AREAS LIKE THE BAY AREA, UM
PARTICULAR AREAS OF THE BAY AREA
, NOT THE BAY AREA IN ITS
ENTIRETY. BUT THE PENINSULA, FOR
EXAMPLE, AND SAN FRANCI STATE
HAS SEEN NOW A SUSTAINED DECLINE
OVER A PERIOD OF YEARS AND ARE
GOING THROUGH A PROCESS OF
REALLY RECOGNIZING THAT GIVEN
THE CHANGES IN DEMOGRAPHY IN
THEIR AREA, THERE ARE FEWER, UH,
HOUSEHOLDS, UM, FAMILY
HOUSEHOLDS WITH TRADITIONAL
COLLEGE AGE CHILDREN GIVEN THE
HIGH COST, AND THEY'RE
RESPONDING TO THAT, UM, AND
THAT'S HAPPENING IN OTHER
CAMPUSES AS WELL. SO AT THE
SYSTEM LEVEL, WHAT WE HAVE DONE
IS IN WORKING COLLECTIVELY, IT'S
NOT JUST BEING IMPOSED, BUT IN,
UH IN ASSOCIATION AND ENGAGEMENT
WITH THOSE CAMPUS LEADERS. UH,
LOOKED AT A MULTIYEAR PLAN TO
REMOVE THOSE ENROLLMENT TARGETS
FROM SOME OF THOSE CAMPUSES AND
TRANSITION THAT TO AREAS OF THE
STATE AND CAMPUSES THAT SEE
CONTINUED SUSTAINED ENROLLMENT
BECAUSE THE REALITY IS THERE IS,
UH, FUNDING TIED TO F Tð E S¼ AT
SOME OF THOSE CAMPUSES WITH
SIGNIFICANT DECLINES FOR F Tð S¼
ENROLLMENTS, REAL ENROLLMENTS
THAT THEY DON'T HAVE, UM AND SO
IT'S TO DO IT OVER A MULTIYEAR
PERIOD. THAT'S WHY, UH, WHILE WE
UNDERSTAND THE COMPLEXITY OF A
MULTIYEAR BUDGET COMPACT AND THE
CHALLENGES THAT THAT PRESENT IT
ALLOWS THAT TO BE BUILT IN OVER
A MULTIYEAR PERIOD. WE'RE NOT
GOING TO PULL THE RUG OUT FROM
ANY INSTITUTION. UM, AND SO IT
WAS A INITIALLY A THREE YEAR 5%
STEP DOWN FOR THOSE CAMPUSES.
THERE ARE EIGHT CAMPUSES THAT
ARE CURRENTLY IN THAT, UH, THAT
CATEGORY AND SO WHAT HAS
HAPPENED IS WE'VE ALSO
RECOGNIZED THAT EVEN SINCE
INITIALLY DEVELOPING THAT PLAN
MORE THAN A YEAR AGO, UH, THAT
THE FISCAL PRESSURES HAVE
CONTINUED TO CHANGE AT THE STATE
LEVEL AND INSTITUTIONALLY IS
INFLATION HAS IMPACTED COSTS. WE
HAVE NEW BARGAINING AGREEMENTS
THAT CAMPUSES ARE TRYING TO
NAVIGATE. AND SO THAT'S BEEN
REDUCED TO A 3% ENROLLMENT
TARGET REDUCTION IN THIS FIRST
YEAR AS WE GO INTO NEXT YEAR
THAT WILL BE REDISTRIBUTED TO
NINE CAMPUSES THAT ARE
CONTINUING TO SEE SUSTAINED
DEMAND. SO THAT'S THE INTERNAL
MECHANISM THAT F Tð TARGET AND
ASSOCIATED PER F. Tð FUNDING IS
BEING MOVED AT THE ON THE OTHER
END OF A SORT OF ANOTHER WAY OF
ADDRESSING IT IS AT THE SYSTEM
LEVEL IN TERMS OF I MENTIONED
ASPECTS OF MARKETING RECRUITMENT
PARTNERSHIPS, NEW PROGRAMS TO
ENGAGE AND RE ENGAGE STUDENTS
THAT HAVE LEFT PARTICULARLY
DURING THE PANDEMIC. UM PROGRAMS
LIKE OUR SECOND START PROGRAM,
WHICH IS BRINGING BACK STUDENTS
THAT HAVE NOW BEEN OUT FOR
SEVERAL TERMS, UH, TO INVITE
THEM BACK NÓ APPLICATION FEE TO
BE REINTEGRATED AND BE ABLE TO
MITIGATE PERHAPS ACADEMIC
CHALLENGES THAT THEY FACE DURING
THE PANDEMIC. UH, SO THOSE ARE
THE TYPES OF SORT OF SYSTEM
INITIATIVES THAT WE'RE
EMPLOYING. MULTIPLE CAMPUSES TO
ALSO RE ENGAGE NEW RETURNING
STUDENTS AS WELL AS INVEST IN
MARKETING AND PARTNERSHIPS WITH
R, Kò 12 PARTNERS AND OTHERS.
WELL, I'LL DEFINITELY FOLLOW UP
AND WOULD WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE
INFORMATION. UH, SPECIFICALLY ON
. I BELIEVE IT WAS HUMBOLDT,
WHERE THERE'S A SUBSTANTIAL
INVESTMENT IN THOSE EFFORTS, BUT
JUST SYSTEM WIDE AND THEN ALSO,
AND MAYBE I'LL GET BACK TO THIS
AFTER MY COLLEAGUES ASKED SOME
QUESTIONS THE YOU KNOW WE WE'VE
NOTED IN THE AGENDA AS SANS IN
SAN DIEGO AND THE GROWTH OF, UH
OUT OF STATE. UH, STUDENTS, UM,
DEFINITELY DON'T WANT TO BE
HAVING THE SAME CONVERSATION
WE'VE HAD WITH U èC WITH YOU.
UM UH, ON AN ONGOING BASIS, AND
SO I THINK WE MIGHT ASK SOME
MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT BUT I'LL
TURN IT OVER TO MR FUNG. THANK
YOU SO MUCH, MR CHAIR, AND ON
THAT NOTE, ACTUALLY, THAT LEADS
IT TO MY QUESTIONS. IT WAS ON
THE, UH NON RESIDENTS
INTERNATIONAL STUDENT ENROLLMENT
FOR CAL POLY SAN LUIS OBISPO AND
SAN DIEGO. I READ A REPORT TO
THAT THERE WAS A POLICY THAT
SAID 15% CAP ON NON RESIDENCE
STUDENTS, BUT NOW STUDENTS, BUT,
BUT NOW CLOS WHO REPRESENT THEIR
NOT BEING FOR THEM, BUT THAT
AREA IS VERY IMPACTED. TERMS OF,
UM STUDENT ENROLLMENT AND
STUDENTS. CALIFORNIANS THAT
WANNA GO TO THOSE RESPECTIVE
CAMPUSES, BUT ESPECIALLY èC PO
SLOW. WHAT IS, UM THE PLAN THERE
TO REALLY MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE
EXPANDING OPPORTUNITY TO CAL
POLY SLOW. IS THERE GONNA BE A
PLAN TO REALLY TRY TO LIMIT NON
RESIDENTS, ENROLLMENT OR A
NATIONAL STUDENT ENROLLMENT AT
AT THOSE TWO PARTICULAR CAMPUSES
? NOW I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION.
UM AND CAN CERTAINLY, UH, SPEND
MORE TIME ON THIS EITHER. TODAY
OR IN IN FUTURE OPPORTUNITIES,
UM, WITH SAN LUIS CAL POLI SAN
LUIS OBISPO SPECIFICALLY AS IT
REFERENCES IN THE DOCUMENT, UH,
IN ADDITION TO CALIFORNIA OR
BASE, RESIDENT ENROLLMENT,
TUITION AND NÓ RESIDENT TUITION
THAT THOSE STUDENTS FROM OUT OF
STATE OR INTERNATIONALLY WOULD
PAY. UH Kò POLI SAN LUIS AND
BISPO UNDERTOOK A PILOT PROJECT
AT CAMPUS BASED STUDENT
OPPORTUNITY FEE NON RESIDENCE
OPPORTUNITY FEE WHERE THOSE
STUDENTS IN ADDITION TO THE BASE
TUITION AND NON RESIDENTS,
TUITION ALSO PAY A CAMPUS BASED
FEE AS A NON RESIDENTS STUDENT
THAT HAS BEEN INVESTED INTO
THEIR CAMPUS BASED FINANCIAL AID
FOR CALIFORNIA RESIDENTS. AS
PART OF THAT, AS WAS DETAILED IN
HERE, THERE WAS AN AGREEMENT TO
SUSTAIN ENROLLMENT. NON-RESIDENT
ENROLLMENT AT A 15% CAP. AS YOU
NOTED DURING THE PANDEMIC
PANDEMIC, IT DID EXCEED THAT
WHICH, UH, AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT
IN A VARIETY OF SPACES,
PREDICTING ENROLLMENT PATTERNS
DURING THE PANDEMIC BECAME VERY
DIFFICULT. THE CAMPUS HAS RE,
UH, SELF REGULATED WITH OUR
ENGAGEMENT AND IS BEGINNING TO
BRING THAT BACK DOWN. ONE OF THE
OTHER THINGS THAT THEY HAVE LAID
OUT IS A MULTIYEAR GROWTH PLAN
FOR CALIFORNIA RESIDENTS WHILE
THEY ARE ABLE AND PLANNING TO
KEEP, UH AND SUSTAIN A
CONSISTENT LEVEL OF NON IN
ENROLMENT. SO WHILE AGAIN
ACKNOWLEDGING THE COMPLEXITIES
OF A MULTIYEAR BUDGET COMP
COMPACT PART OF THAT HAS ALLOWED
US TO PLAN WHAT WOULD WE WOULD
BE ABLE TO INCREMENTALLY, UH,
INVEST IN THEM IN IN IN RESIDENT
ENROLLMENT GROWTH OVER THE
BALANCE OF THE COMPACT, SO THAT
HAS BEEN AN ONGOING CONVERSATION
AND ENGAGEMENT WITH CAL POLY SAN
LUIS OBISPO, AND AS I SAID, THEY
HAVE RECOGNIZED AND ARE WORKING
TO SELF REGULATE THAT BACK DOWN
TO THAT INTERNAL AGREED POINT.
THANK YOU. AND THEN, IN TERMS OF
THE CHART THAT SHE REALLY SHOWED
A NUMBER OF CAMPUSES IN DOUBLE
DIGIT DECLINE. IS THE
OPPORTUNITY TO OFFER I MEAN NOT
A DOCTORAL DEGREES AND
OPPORTUNITY TO MAYBE GROW BACK
SOME OF THAT ENROLLMENT AND THEN
SECONDLY THE CAMPUSES THAT ARE
LOSING OUR FUNDS. HOW WOULD THEY
READJUST THEIR OPERATIONS? NÓ. I
APPRECIATE THE QUESTION WITH
REGARD TO DOCTORAL PROGRAMS. UM,
THOSE PROGRAMS WILL BE VERY
SMALL. I MEAN, OUR FOCUS IS ON,
UH IN GROWTH AND UNDERGRADUATE
ENROLLMENT AND TO THE POINT OUR
CONVERSATION EARLIER ABOUT LAST
YEAR'S BUDGET, UH, THAT DID
POINT SPECIFICALLY TO
UNDERGRADUATE STUDENT ENROLLMENT
GROWTH, NOT GRADUATE. UM, WE DO
SEE SOME OPPORTUNITIES.
CERTAINLY IN DOCTORAL PROGRAMS
AND OUR, UH, PLEASED TO BE ABLE
TO EXPAND THOSE OPPORTUNITIES
WE'RE WORKING THROUGH INTERNALLY
RIGHT NOW WHAT THAT PROCESS WILL
LOOK LIKE AND HOW WE UM, PROVIDE
THE APPROPRIATE JUSTIFICATION
AND BACKGROUND TO LAUNCH THOSE
PROGRAMS. BUT THEY WILL BE VERY
SMALL. OUR FOCUS WILL CONTINUE
TO BE REALLY ON GROWING OUR
UNDERGRADUATE PROGRAMS, BOTH AT
THE FRESHMAN AND TRANSFER LEVEL,
UM WITH REGARD TO THE SECOND
PORTION OF YOUR YOUR QUESTION,
UM EACH OF THE CAMPUSES AND AS I
MENTIONED, THERE ARE EIGHT THAT
ARE PLANNING FOR REDUCTIONS IN
THEIR ENROLLMENT TARGETS. WE
HAVE BEEN CLOSELY INVOLVED IN
ALL ASPECTS OF THEIR PLANNING.
BE IT ENROLLMENT, BE IT ACADEMIC
PROGRAM PLANNING, ACADEMIC
OFFERINGS AND ACTUALLY, DURING
THE UPCOMING BOARD OF TRUSTEES
MEETING, THERE WILL BE A
PRESENTATION ON MULTI CAMPUS
EFFORTS TO, UH TO ADDRESS
ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES WHERE
OUR CAMPUSES CAN MORE ACTIVELY
SHARE ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES TO
ADDRESS OVERHEAD COSTS. UM,
WE'RE ALREADY DOING THAT. FOR
EXAMPLE, IN SOME AREAS AROUND IT
IN PARKING AND PARKING
ENFORCEMENT AND DISPATCH FOR
CAMPUS POLICE. UM BUT THERE ARE
OTHER AREAS THAT WE'RE LOOKING
AT, INCLUDING, UH, A GREATER USE
OF SHARED ACADEMIC PROGRAMS
ACROSS CAMPUSES. WE FOR EXAMPLE,
RIGHT NOW AN UNDERGRADUATE
STUDENT ON N èC S¼ U CAMPUS
CAN ENROLL IN AN ONLINE COURSE
AT ANOTHER CAMPUS WITH FOR OUT
WITHOUT ANY ADDITIONAL FEES OR
TUITION COLLECTED. UH, WE
CURRENTLY ONLY HAVE ANYWHERE
FROM 1000 TO 1200 STUDENTS PER
TERM TO AVAILING THEMSELVES TO
SO HOW TO MORE STRATEGICALLY USE
THAT TO ENSURE COURSE
AVAILABILITY BUT ALSO TO BUILD A
FOUNDATION FOR MULTI CAMPUS
PROGRAMS SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE
DUPLICATION, UM, TO THE EXTENT
POSSIBLE. YEAH. THANK YOU SO
MUCH. THANK YOU, MR MARUCCI.
THANK YOU. SO UH, FOLLOWING ON
THE, UH, THE CHAIR'S LINE OF
QUESTIONING. UM IT'S MY
UNDERSTANDING THAT THE LESS.
THAT OF ANALYST IS SAYING THAT,
UH UH, THE ENROLMENT GROWTH, UH,
OF CSU STATEWIDE IS BEING
OVERSTATED BECAUSE IT IT
BASICALLY THE, UH STUDENTS
ATTENDING SUMMER COURSES ARE ARE
BEING, UH, YOU KNOW.
RECLASSIFIED FOR BEING SELF
SUPPORTED TO STAY SUPPORTED. BUT
THE INTENT OF THE LEGISLATURE TO
FUND ENROLLMENT GROWTH WAS TO
GET MORE CALIFORNIANS ATTENDING
THE CAL STATE UNIVERSITY. AND SO
, UH, WOULD YOU AGREE? UH, SIR,
THAT, UH THAT CONTRARY TO THE
LEGISLATIVE INTENT WE ARE IN IN.
IN FACT, WE'RE NOT SEEING MORE
CALIFORNIA STUDENTS ATTENDING
THE CALIFORNIA STATE UNIVERSITY
STATEWIDE. I. I WOULD NOT AGREE
WITH THAT CONTENTION. UM, WITH
SELF-SUPPORT PROGRAMS. THERE IS
NÓ DIFFERENTIATION IN RESIDENT
OR NON RESIDENTS, FEES OR
IDENTIFYING STUDENTS. UH, WHEN
WE'RE LOOKING AT STATE SUPPORT
ENROLLMENT IN THE SUMMER, THAT
IS ONLY WE'RE ONLY REPORTING
CALIFORNIA RESIDENTS AND AS I
MENTIONED, REALLY, THAT IS A
DIFFERENT POPULATION OF STUDENTS
THAT ARE ABLE TO ACCESS
ENROLLMENT WHEN IT IS STATE
SUPPORTED IN THE SUMMER,
PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF FINANCIAL
AID. UH SO WE HAVE. WE DO NOT
DIFFERENT. EIGHT, WHEN
ENROLLMENT IS SELF SUPPORT, THE
TYPE OF STUDENT OR THE TYPE OF
ENROLLMENT VERSUS STATE SUPPORT
ENROLLMENT IN THE SUMMER ARE OUR
DEGREE SEEKING STUDENTS BEING
ABLE TO CAN, AND IN THIS CASE,
CALIFORNIA RESIDENTS BEING ABLE
TO CONTINUE THEIR EDUCATION. UH
WE WE'RE IN MANY CASES THEY
WOULD NOT BECAUSE THEY WOULD NOT
BE FINANCIALLY ABLE TO
INDIVIDUALLY PAY FOR SELF
SUPPORT. ENROLLMENT BUT II, I
I'M NOT, UM, MAKING THE
DISTINCTION BETWEEN CALIFORNIA
RESIDENTS AND NON, UH STATE
RESIDENTS. UH, I. I GONNA TURN
TO THE LAST SET OF ANALYSTS IN
IN A IN A MINUTE, BUT, UH UH,
AGAIN, UH, MY ACCORDING TO THE
STAFF ANALYSIS. UH YOU KNOW,
WHICH IS NOT MAKING THAT
DISTINCTION BETWEEN CAL,
CALIFORNIA RESIDENTS AND NON
RESIDENTS, BUT RATHER THAT THE
MAJORITY OF THE INCREASE IN F Tð
E STUDENTS THAT CAL STATE
UNIVERSITY IS REPORTING, UH, IS
UNRELATED TO ADDING MORE
STUDENTS AND INSTEAD STEMS FROM
SHIFTING SUMMER COURSES FROM
SELF SUPPORTED TO STAY SUPPORTED
. SO AS AS YOU INDICATED, IT'S
JUST UH, COVERING THE SUMMER
ENROLLMENT WITH STATE DOLLARS
INSTEAD OF THE SELF SUPPORTED
DOLLARS, BUT IT'S NOT ACTUALLY
ADDING MORE. UH, STUDENTS. LESS
THAT OF ANALYSTS IN MY IN MY, UH
UH UH CORRECT IN MY
UNDERSTANDING. YES THAT'S A
CORRECT UNDERSTANDING OF OUR
POINT. I THINK IT'S CLEAR TO SEE
IN THE CHART IN YOUR AGENDA ON
THE TOP OF PAGE 14. THIS CHART
SHOWS SOME FULL-TIME EQUIVALENT
STUDENTS RESIDENT FULL TIME
EQUIVALENT STUDENTS SPLIT UP BY
STATE SUPPORTED IN THE TOP ROW
VERSUS SELF SUPPORTED IN THE
BOTTOM ROW. BETWEEN 2220, THREE
AND 20, THREE 24, THERE WAS AN
ALMOST DOUBLING OF STATE
SUPPORTED SUMMER F Dð STUDENTS.
BUT THAT WAS LARGELY OFFSET BY A
DECREASE OF A SIMILAR AMOUNT IN
SELF SUPPORTED F Tð STUDENTS, SO
THAT SUGGESTS TO US THAT, UM, WE
ARE ON THAT NOT SEEING MUCH OF
AN INCREASE IN SUMMER
ENROLLMENT, AND IT HAS MORE TO
DO WITH THE RECLASSIFICATION OF
COURSES AND HOW THEY'RE FUNDED
RATHER THAN THE NUMBER OF
STUDENTS SERVED. OK AND THAT,
UH, THE LESS SORT OF ANALYSTS
INTERPRETATION OF OR OR POSITION
OF, UH, THE ENROLLMENT FIGURES
SEEMS TO BE IN LINE WITH, UM
WHAT THE STAFF ANALYSIS ALSO
POINTS OUT THAT, UH AH, THE
MAJORITY OF CAL STATE CAMPUSES
ARE ARE, UH, BELOW THEIR
ENROLLMENT TARGETS. UH, SEVERAL
BY MORE THAN 10. UM AND IT IT IT
JUST, UH UM I MEAN, III. I
SHOULD HAVE STARTED MY COMMENTS
BY SAYING, YOU KNOW, FIRST OF
ALL THAT THAT I'M I'M A BIG
SUPPORTER OF CAL STATE
UNIVERSITY. I. I JUST HAD A
GREAT UH UH, VISIT THIS MORNING
WITH THE SACRAMENTO STATE
UNIVERSITY SCHOOL OF EDUCATION
WHERE THEY ARE, YOU KNOW, A
TRULY LEADERS, UH, IN IN IN THE
STATE AND TRAINING THE NEXT
GENERATION OF, UH, Kò 12
TEACHERS, AND WE NEED WE KNOW
THAT THAT CAL STATE YOU KNOW IS
THE, UM, THE BACKBONE OF OUR
TEACHER TRAINING AND SO MANY OF
OUR, UM UH, YOU KNOW, FUTURE
WORKFORCE EDUCATION. AND YET,
YOU KNOW IT. IT SEEMS LIKE SUCH
A STARK CONTRAST BETWEEN OUR
CONVERSATION WITH AT AT LEAST
WITH THE MOST IMPACTED
UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA
CAMPUSES WHERE, YOU KNOW OUR
CALIFORNIA STUDENTS. UM ARE ARE
CAN'T GET INTO, UH, THE CAPSULES
THAT THEY WANT TO ATTEND. UH AND
YET HERE AT THE CALIFORNIA STATE
UNIVERSITY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE
WE'RE HAVING DRAMATIC DECLINES,
AND, UH, AND ENROLLMENT AND SO
YOU KNOW, II. I SEE MY COLLEAGUE
FROM SACRAMENTO WALKING AT A
PERFECT TIME, BECAUSE I KNOW
HE'S A, UH, ALSO A BIG CHAMPION
OF CALIFORNIA STATE UNIVERSITY.
BUT I IT JUST SEEMS TO ME THAT
YOU KNOW, SHOULD WE BE I I'M I'M
I'M GONNA BE, UH, A DEVIL'S
ADVOCATE AND THROW THIS OUT
THERE, BUT SHOULD WE BE MEETING
OUR STATE FUNDING PRIORITIES TO
WHERE THE DEMAND IS THE
GREATEST? YOU KNOW THAT IS THAT
THAT, UH WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, KIDS
, CALIFORNIA STUDENTS THAT CAN'T
GET INTO THE MOST IMPACTED
UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA
CAMPUSES AND WHEN WE'RE HAVING
DECLINING ENROLLMENT AT
CALIFORNIA STATE UNIVERSITY
CAMPUSES, SHOULD WE, YOU KNOW,
SHOULD WE BE MOVING AWAY FROM
THE 5% 5% FORMULAS THAT WE HAVE?
TRADITIONALLY UH UH, UH, PURSUED
IN TERMS OF THE EQUAL TREATMENT
FOR THE UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA
AND THE CALIFORNIA STATE
UNIVERSITY AND ALLOCATING MORE
FUNDING TO WHERE CALIFORNIA
STUDENTS WANT TO ATTEND, UM LESS
SET OF ANALYSTS. DO YOU HAVE ANY
THOUGHTS ON THAT? WELL, IT'S A
REASONABLE QUESTION IF YOU'RE
SEEING DIFFERENT LEVELS OF
STUDENT DEMAND AT DIFFERENT
SEGMENTS, THERE'S A RATIONALE
FOR POTENTIALLY FUNDING
DIFFERENT LEVELS OF GROWTH AT
THE DIFFERENT SEGMENTS, IN
ADDITION TO THE TRENDS SEEING IN
STUDENT DEMAND, ONE THING YOU
COULD CONSIDER IS AN
INSTRUCTIONAL COSTS DIFFER BY
SEGMENTS. SO THE FISCAL
IMPLICATIONS OF FUNDING GROWTH.
THAT VERSUS èC S¼ U VERSUS THE
COMMUNITY COLLEGES ARE SOMEWHAT
DIFFERENT AS WELL. AND THEN
FINALLY, THIS IS A POINT THAT
YOU ALREADY UNDERSTAND WELL, BUT
THERE IS VARIATION WITHIN THE
SEGMENTS IN DEMAND. AND SO WHILE
èC S¼ U ON THE WHOLE IS SEEING
LESS ROBUST STUDENT DEMAND THAN
YOU SEE, THERE ARE ALSO SOME
CAMPUSES WITHIN THE èC S¼ U
SYSTEM THAT REMAIN IMPACTED AND
OTHERS THAT ARE FAR BELOW
TARGET. AND I THINK THE
REALLOCATION PLAN THAT DR EVANS
SPOKE TO ADDRESSES THAT QUESTION
, OK, AND, UH, YEAH, UH,
FOLLOWING, UH, THE CHAIR OF
HIGHER EDUCATION'S QUESTIONS
ABOUT II. I BELIEVE CALIFORNIA
STATE. UH CAL POLY SAN LOS
OBISPO, AS WELL AS CAL POLY
POMONA ARE BOTH, UH, STEM
PROGRAMS. UH I, I BUT IT IT
SEEMS JUST AS WE HEARD FROM THE
UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA THAT
THE GREATEST DEMAND IN TERMS OF,
UH OF, UH, YOU KNOW, THE MOST
IMPACTED MEASURES THAT THE MOST
IMPACTED CAMPUSES OF THE
UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA ARE THE
ENGINEERING FIELDS. WHY NOT
DEVOTE MORE MONEY FOR THE, UH,
THE ENGINEERING PROGRAMS OF THE
CALIFORNIA STATE UNIVERSITY TO
MEET THE DEMAND NOT ONLY OF OUR
CALIFORNIA STUDENTS BUT OF OUR
WORKFORCE. ANY RESPONSE. WELL,
AND I, UH SO I APPRECIATE THE
QUESTION MAYBE BUILDING ON MISS
KING'S COMMENTS, UM UH, THERE BE
TWO POINTS, I WOULD I WOULD
START WITH A ONE TO HER FINAL
POINT THAT, UM YES. WHILE WE
LOOK ACROSS THE SYSTEM, WE HAVE
SEEN THIS DECLINE AGAIN AFTER
MORE THAN A DECADE OF BEING, UH,
SERVING MORE STUDENTS THAN THE
STATE WAS FUNDING BETWEEN 2011
AND 2022. WE'VE NOW SEEN A TWO
YEAR PERIOD WHERE WE ARE BELOW
THAT. UM SO THAT HAS BEEN A SH A
RECENT CHANGE, AND I HAVE SHARED
ALREADY IN MY OPENING COMMENTS
THAT THAT TRAJECTORY HAS CHANGED
AND WE ARE NOW EXPECTING A YEAR
OVER YEAR GROWTH. UM WE ALSO SEE
THAT VARIATION ACROSS CAMPUSES
AND ARE WORKING TO ADDRESS SOME
OF IT THAT IS DRIVEN BY
POPULATION AND DEMOGRAPHIC
CHANGE. UM THAT PERHAPS SHOULD
HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED EARLIER, BUT
WAS NOT. AND WE'RE DOING THAT
NOW, OVER A MULTIYEAR HORIZON,
UM, TO THE POINT REGARDING OUR
OUR, UH PROGRAMS WITH THE
GREATEST DEMAND WHEN WE ARE
WORKING WITH CAMPUSES NOW IT IS
FOCUSED ON UM YES, THIS IS AN
ENROLLMENT ALLOCATION AN
ENROLLMENT TARGET BUT ALSO
SETTING THE EXPECTATION THAT
GROWTH IS HAPPENING IN THOSE
HIGH DEMAND AREAS BE THEY STEM,
NURSING, TEACHING AND LEARNING
AS WELL AS EARLY CHILDHOOD
EDUCATION, ALL AREAS THAT HAVE
BEEN CALLED OUT AND ARE WORKING
COLLECTIVELY TO PRIORITIZE
GROWTH IN THOSE AREAS. I WOULD
ALSO ADD, I WOULD BE REMISS IF I
DIDN'T MENTION WE HAVE THREE COW
POLYS, WHICH INCLUDES COW POLY
HUMBOLDT. AS WELL AS WELL AS
ROBUST ENGINEERING PROGRAMS IN A
NUMBER OF THE OTHER CSU
CAMPUSES. THANK YOU. I THINK ONE
THING THAT WILL BE IMPORTANT
GOING FORWARD SO THAT WE'RE ALL
ON THE SAME PAGE AND I STARTED
WITH THESE. THIS LINE OF
QUESTION. IS THIS IDEA OF, UH
WHAT? WE'RE COUNTING AS STUDENTS
FOR THIS FALL TIME? UH, SORRY
FOR THE SUMMER TIME ENROLLMENT.
IF WE'RE USING F Tð E S¼, THEN
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE USING. WHEN WE
SET THE BUDGET, THEN YOU KNOW,
IT'S I GUESS. WE HAVE TO SET THE
RIGHT EXPECTATIONS. WE'RE
EXPECTING A GROWTH IN HEAD
COUNT. THAT'S ONE THING IF WE'RE
EXPECTING YOU TO MEET F Tð E S¼,
THAT'S ANOTHER. AND SO WHILE IT
COULD BE CONCEIVED THAT YOU'VE
JUST FLIPPED, AND NOW YOU'RE
DOING STATE SUPPORTED VERSUS
WELL, I MEAN, THAT THAT IS
TECHNICALLY WHAT WAS APPROVED IN
THE BUDGET. UM AND SO I THINK,
AS WE SET EXPECTATIONS FOR
GROWTH, WE NEED TO BE MORE CLEAR
ABOUT WHAT THAT REALLY MEANS FOR
YOU, UM SO THAT THAT OVERSIGHT
CAN EXIST LONG, LONG TERM. UM I
WOULD. I WOULD JUST, UH AND, UH,
I DON'T KNOW IF MR MCCARTHY HAS
ANYTHING FOR THIS PANEL. OK UM I
WOULD I WOULD JUST END WITH, YOU
KNOW THE SAME WAY. I. I ENDED
WITH WITH THE, UM SPECIFICALLY
AS I SEE GROWTH IN SAN DIEGO. UM
THE DEMAND GROWING ANYWAY, THAT
THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES IN THE
SAME WAY AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE
THE SYSTEM TO LOOK AT, UM, THE
POTENTIAL FOR GROWTH OUTSIDE OF
MAIN CAMPUS BECAUSE THAT'S ALL
YOU KNOW. THE GROWTH IS ALREADY
THERE. UM, JUST LIKE WITH
CHANCELLOR THE PRESIDENT. SDSU
KNOWS ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITIES
FOR GROWTH IN CHULA VISTA. AND
SO I CERTAINLY, UH, REQUEST THAT
, UH, THE SYSTEM AS A WHOLE
SUPPORT THAT AS A AS A MISSION
GOING FORWARD, BUT ALSO FOCUSED
ON ENSURING THAT, UM
CALIFORNIANS AND LOCAL STUDENTS
GET SERVED BECAUSE THAT'S ONE OF
THE THINGS THAT WE'RE WE'RE
CONCERNED, UH, WITH WITH TRENDS
AND SO AND THEN THE SAME THING,
I TOLD THEM AND I ASKED THEM TO
RETURN BACK TO IS, IS THERE AT
CAMPUSES LIKE THAT, WHERE THE
DEMAND IS HIGH FROM OUT OF STATE
STUDENTS? UM, GIVE THE CAMPUS
THE FLEXIBILITY TO POTENTIALLY
DO LIKE WHAT YOU DID YOU JUST
EXPLAINED TO US. YOU DID AT SLO
WITH, UH, AN ADDITIONAL NON
CALIFORNIAN TUITION FEE TO HELP
SUPPORT MORE CALIFORNIANS. I
THINK WE YOU'D FIND A LOT OF
SUPPORT IN THE LEGISLATURE TO
MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION. AND SO
I'D ASK THAT, UM, WHEN YOU COME
BACK, UM YOU'LL CERTAINLY BE BE
HEARING QUESTIONS AROUND THAT
FROM US. I APPRECIATE THAT. OK,
THANK YOU. ALL. THANK YOU
APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. AND THEN
WE'LL GO ON TO OUR NEXT PANEL.
OUR NEXT SEGMENT, WHICH IS OUR
COMMUNITY COLLEGE SYSTEM, I
GUESS MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE SAID
FROM THE BEGINNING, AND MR
MARUCCI SORT OF MADE MENTION OF
THIS. I THINK WE ASKED THESE
QUESTIONS BECAUSE WE WANNA SEE
ALL THE SYSTEMS SUCCEED, AND WE
WANT TO MAKE SURE MORE STUDENTS
ARE SERVED, AND SOMETIMES THEY
MAY COME ACROSS AS, UH, AS, UH,
HARSHER PERHAPS THAN THAN THEY
INTENDED, BUT IT IS ABOUT HOW DO
WE INCREASE MORE ACCESS AND
OPPORTUNITY? THAT'S THE FOCUS OF
THE HEARING AND UH, THE FOCUS OF
TODAY. UM SO I HOPE THAT THAT IS
THE WAY YOU ALL TAKE THE
QUESTIONS AS WE ASK THEM, SO WE
WILL NOW HEAR FROM THE
CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY COLLEGE ON
THEIR ENROLLMENT UPDATE. UH THE
DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE, THE
LEGISLATIVE ANALYST AND THE
CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE AS WELL, SO
I'LL START WITH FINANCE. GOOD
AFTERNOON CHAIR AND MEMBERS
JUSTIN HURST WITH THE DEPARTMENT
OF FINANCE. FOR THE CALIFORNIA
COMMUNITY COLLEGES. THE
GOVERNOR'S BUDGET PROPOSES $29.6
MILLION ONGOING PROPOSITION 98
GENERAL FUND TO SUPPORT A 0.5%
ENROLLMENT GROWTH WITHIN THE
STUDENT CENTERED FUNDING FORMULA
FOR SYSTEM WIDE GROWTH. THE
GOVERNOR'S BUDGET HAS
HISTORICALLY PROPOSED
INVESTMENTS FOR SUPPORTING
SYSTEM WIDE ENROLLMENT GROWTH
WITHIN THE COMMUNITY COLLEGES
FUNDING FORMULA THESE
INVESTMENTS ARE CRUCIAL TO
SUPPORT THOSE COMMUNITY COLLEGE
DISTRICTS THAT ARE EXPERIENCING
INCREASES IN ENROLLMENT. BUT WE
TEND TO VIEW THIS INVESTMENT AS
FAIRLY TECHNICAL AS DISTRICTS
ARE UNABLE TO GROW THEIR FULL
TIME EQUIVALENT STUDENTS OR F Tð
S¼ WITHOUT IN ENROLLMENT GROWTH
FUNDING IN THE BUDGET. THAT
CONCLUDES MY OVERVIEW AND I'M
HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS AT
THE APPROPRIATE TIME. THANK YOU.
LEGISLATIVE ANALYST OFFICE.
THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON, PAUL
STEINHAUS WITH THE ANALYSTS
OFFICE. UH, SO REFLECTING THIS
MORNING THAT IT WAS ON THIS DAY
FOUR YEARS AGO MARCH 13TH 2020
THAT MANY COLLEGES ANNOUNCED
THAT THEY WERE PAUSING OR MOVING
ONLINE. THEIR INSTRUCTION. UH,
FRIDAY. THE 13TH. IT WAS BACK
THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, AND SINCE
THAT TIME ENROLLMENT HAS BEEN
AMONG THE TOP CHALLENGES, IF NOT
THE TOP CHALLENGE OF THE
COMMUNITY COLLEGES, AND THAT'S
TRUE NOT JUST FOR CALIFORNIA
COMMUNITY COLLEGES WITH
NATIONALLY AS WELL. UH, AS YOUR
AGENDA, NOTES, UM AFTER THREE
YEARS OF ENROLLMENT DECLINES,
THOUGH, CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY
COLLEGE ENROLLMENT STARTED TO
REBOUND IN 2223. IN ADDITION,
SYSTEM WIDE FALL, 2023
ENROLLMENT WAS 7% HIGHER THAN IN
FALL 2022 SO IT SUGGESTS THAT
THE ENROLLMENT REBOUND IS
STRENGTHENING IN THE CURRENT
YEAR AS WELL. AND THAT FALL OF
ALL GROWTH BY THE WAY, IS
ACTUALLY STRONGER THAN THE
NATIONAL TREND AT PUBLIC TWO
YEAR COLLEGES. AS YOU HEARD AN
ISSUE. ONE COMMUNITY COLLEGE
ENROLLMENT IS INFLUENCED QUITE A
BIT BY ECONOMIC TRENDS. AND IN
THE PAST YEAR AND A HALF
UNEMPLOYMENT IN CALIFORNIA HAS
GONE FROM 3.8% TO. IT'S ABOUT
5.2% NOW THAT'S LIKELY CAUSING
MORE RESIDENTS IN CALIFORNIA TO
SEEK COMMUNITY COLLEGE TRAINING
OR OTHER EDUCATION PROGRAM. YOU
KNOW. AT THE SAME TIME COLLEGES
HAVE IMPLEMENTED A NUMBER OF
STRATEGIES TO TRY TO BRING BACK
STUDENTS, INCLUDING INTENSIFYING
OUTREACH TO LOCAL FEEDER HIGH
SCHOOLS, PROVIDING EMERGENCY
GRANTS AND OTHER ASSISTANCE TO,
UH, NEEDY STUDENTS. UM MANY
COLLEGES HAVE CREATED PHONE
BANKS REACHED OUT TO INDIVIDUALS
WHO'VE DROPPED OUT OR STARTED AN
APPLICATION EVEN AND DIDN'T
COMPLETE. I HEARD FROM A LOCAL
DISTRICT THAT WAS REALLY
SUCCESSFUL APPROACH REACHING OUT
TO THOSE WHO STARTED AN
APPLICATION BUT BUT DIDN'T
COMPLETE AND SAID, HEY, WHAT CAN
WE DO TO HELP YOU AND GET YOU
ENROLLED. IT'S ALSO A MUCH MORE
OF AN EMPHASIS NOW ON
NONTRADITIONAL STUDENTS, AS YOU
HEARD EARLIER, SO, UH, THE
AGENDA ON PAGE 24 SHOWS THE
GROWTH IN DUAL ENROLLMENT
STUDENTS AS WELL AS INCARCERATED
STUDENTS. SO THERE'S SEVERAL
ISSUES AND, UH, CONSIDERATIONS
BEFORE THE LEGISLATURE REGARDING
COMMUNITY COLLEGE ENROLLMENT.
FIRST IS YOUR AGENDA NOTES ON
PAGE 25. THE LEGISLATURE
PROVIDED ABOUT $27 MILLION IN
ENROLLMENT GROWTH FUNDING IN
2220 THREE. UH, THE CHANCELLOR'S
OFFICE HAS FINALIZED ENROLLMENT
DATA FOR THAT YEAR AND FOUND
THAT WHILE THERE WAS SOME GROWTH
, UH JUST OVER $8 MILLION OF
THAT $27 MILLION WAS NOT EARNED
BY DISTRICTS AND SO THAT MONEY
IS AVAILABLE TO THE STATE TO
SWEEP AND THEN USE FOR
PROPOSITION 98 BUDGET SAVINGS OR
OTHER PURPOSES. BASED ON THE
LATEST ESTIMATE FROM THE
CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE JUST A FEW
WEEKS AGO, DISTRICTS ARE ON
TRACK IN THE CURRENT YEAR TO
EARN ALL $26 MILLION IN
ENROLLMENT GROWTH FUNDING THAT
THE LEGISLATURE PROVIDED IN THE
20 THREE 24 BUDGET. AND AS YOU
JUST HEARD FOR, UH 2024 25 THE
BUDGET YEAR. THE GOVERNOR'S
BUDGET PROPOSES $30 MILLION.
ONGOING UH, THAT'S PROPOSITION
98 GENERAL FUND FOR ENROLLMENT
GROWTH FUNDING. YOU KNOW,
ORDINARILY THE KIND OF
ENROLLMENT DATA THAT COLLEGES
CURRENTLY ARE REPORTING WOULD
SUGGEST A STRONG CASE FOR
PROVIDING THIS PROPOSED BASE
AUGMENTATION. TO THE COLLEGES.
BASED ON CURRENT REVENUE
ESTIMATES, HOWEVER, THE STATE IS
FACING A LARGE BUDGET DEFICIT.
AS YOU ALL KNOW, YOU KNOW.
HISTORICALLY THE STATE HAS TRIED
TO CONTAIN SPENDING, UH DURING
TIGHT FISCAL TIMES, RATHER THAN
ADDING TO THE BUDGET PROBLEM BY
PROVIDING NEW MONEY ON TOP OF
THE EXISTING SO ULTIMATELY, THE
LEGISLATURE WILL WANT TO WEIGH
THE BENEFITS OF PROVIDING, UH,
MORE ACCESS TO INDIVIDUALS
SEEKING A COMMUNITY COLLEGE
EDUCATION ON THE ONE HAND WITH
THE NEED ON THE OTHER TO ADDRESS
THIS GENERAL FUND, UH, PROBLEM
AND LOOK FOR GENERAL FUND
SAVINGS. UH, ASSUMING UPDATED
REVENUE ESTIMATES THAT THEY MAY
REVISION CONTINUE TO SUGGEST
THAT THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT
BUDGET PROBLEM. WE RECOMMEND THE
LEGISLATURE NOT PROVIDE GROWTH
MONEY, UH, FOR THE COLLEGES IN
2425. THANK YOU AND HAPPY TO
TAKE QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.
WELCOME. UH, GOOD AFTERNOON.
CHERY ALVAREZ AND SUB COMMITTEE
MEMBERS. I AM RHENA. FINCH AND I
SERVE AS THE CALIFORNIA
COMMUNITY COLLEGE'S VICE
CHANCELLOR FOR COLLEGE FINANCE
AND FACILITIES. UH, SO LET ME
START BY THANKING YOU FOR
CONVENING TODAY'S HEARING ON
THIS CRITICAL TOPIC. I HAVE A
REALLY EXCITING NEWS TO SHARE. I
GUESS WE GOT A LITTLE TEASER
WITH OUR UPDATE FROM THE L A Ó,
UM, FOR THE RECORD. CALIFORNIA
COMMUNITY, COLLEGE ENROLLMENT IS
BACK UP AND OUR COLLEGES ARE
REBOUNDING FROM THE PANDEMIC. AS
OUR SYSTEM ENGAGES WITH OUR NEW
STRATEGIC FRAMEWORK VISION 2030.
OUR GOALS ARE FOCUSED ON EQUITY
AND SUCCESS, EQUITY AND ACCESS
AND EQUITY AND SUPPORT FOR OUR
STUDENTS. WE'RE TRACKING
PROGRESS AND BREAKING GROUND ON
NEW PATHWAYS TO REACH FUTURE
LEARNERS, INCLUDING VETERANS
JUSTICE INVOLVED STUDENTS, DUAL
ENROLLMENT STUDENTS, FOSTER
YOUTH, WORKING ADULT LEARNERS
AND UNDERSERVED POPULATIONS.
CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY COLLEGES
ARE COMMITTED TO PROVIDING
EQUITABLE ACCESS TO HIGHER
EDUCATION FOR EVERYONE IN
CALIFORNIA. AS OUR ONE OF OUR
FORMER CHANCELLORS USED TO SAY
WE SERVE THE TOP 100% OF
CALIFORNIA STUDENTS. SO ALL
COMMUNITY COLLEGES ARE MAKING
PROGRESS TOWARD REACHING PRE
PANDEMIC ENROLLMENT WITH 58
DISTRICTS REPORTING YEAR OVER
YEAR INCREASES IN F Tð E S¼ FULL
TIME EQUIVALENT STUDENTS IN 20
THREE 24. OF THESE 18 DISTRICTS
REPORTED ENROLLMENT GROWTH THAT
EXCEEDED RECENT YEAR PANDEMIC
ENROLLMENT LOSSES AND 14
DISTRICTS REPORTED FTES GROWTH
BEYOND THEIR GROWTH FUNDING
FORMULA TARGET CAP WHICH
RESULTED IN UNFUNDED F Tð E S¼
FOR THE SYSTEM OVER 5000 FTS, OR
ABOUT $29 MILLION OF UNFUNDED
GROWTH. UH, WE ARE MAKING
PROGRESS, THANKS IN NÓ SMALL
PART TO MANY OF THE RECENT
INVESTMENTS FROM THE STATE AND
SUPPORT FOR COMMUNITY COLLEGE
ENROLLMENT. I WANNA HIGHLIGHT
THE CONTRIBUTION OF COMMITTEE
CHAIR ALVAREZ, WHO SPONSORED A B
91 IN 2023 TO REMOVE ENROLLMENT
BARRIERS FOR STUDENTS LIVING
NEAR THE CALIFORNIA MEXICO
BORDER. THIS RECENT LEGISLATION
HAS BEEN CRITICAL TO THE
SOUTHERN REGION AND OUR BOARD OF
GOVERNORS IS CURRENTLY WORKING
ON FINALIZING ALL THE AGREEMENTS
NEEDED TO MOVE THIS FORWARD.
WE'RE SEEING SO MUCH INTEREST
AND STUDENTS ARE READY TO
ENROLL. SO STRIVING FOR STEADY
GROWTH IN STUDENT ENROLLMENT IS
A CRITICAL PIECE, NOT JUST OF
OUR MISSION AS OPEN ACCESS
INSTITUTIONS OF HIGHER EDUCATION
, BUT TO HOW OUR COLLEGES ARE
FUNDED. AS YOU KNOW, THANKS TO
THE INNOVATIVE STUDENT CENTERED
FUNDING FORMULA THIS LEGISLATURE
AND FORMER GOVERNOR JERRY BROWN
ENACTED SEVERAL YEARS AGO. UH,
IT PROVIDES FUNDING NOT JUST FOR
THE NUMBER OF FILLED CHAIRS IN A
CLASSROOM, BUT IT ALSO SUPPORTS
STUDENT EQUITY BY TARGETING
FUNDS TO DISTRICTS SERVING LOW
INCOME STUDENTS AND STUDENT
SUCCESS BY PROVIDING DISTRICTS
WITH ADDITIONAL RESOURCES FOR
STUDENTS. SUCCESSFUL OUTCOMES.
UH, THIS THOROUGH AGENDA YOUR
STAFF HAS PUT TOGETHER NOTES
THAT COMMUNITY COLLEGE
ENROLLMENT DID DROP
SIGNIFICANTLY IN THE FIRST TWO
ACADEMIC YEARS THAT WERE
AFFECTED BY THE PANDEMIC. UH,
AND BECAUSE WE
DISPROPORTIONATELY SERVE LOW
INCOME STUDENTS, STUDENTS WITH
CHILDREN AND DEPENDENT FAMILY
MEMBERS OF THEIR OWN AND
STUDENTS DEPENDENT ON PART TIME
WORK TO MEET THEIR LIVING
EXPENSES. A GREAT NUMBER OF OUR
STUDENTS FELT THEY HAD TO PUT
THEIR EDUCATION ON HOLD AS OUR
NATION DEALT WITH THE EFFECTS OF
HOPEFULLY, ONCE IN A CENTURY
PANDEMIC THAT SHUT DOWN MOST OF
OUR SO SOCIETY STARTING AGAIN
ALMOST FOUR YEARS AGO TODAY
THANKS, HOWEVER, TO THE STRONG
SUPPORT OF THIS LEGISLATURE AND
GOVERNOR NEWSOM, WE WERE ABLE TO
UTILIZE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF
DOLLARS IN ONE TIME FUNDS TO
RECRUIT, ENROLL AND RETAIN
STUDENTS. AND AS YOUR AGENDA
ALSO NOTES, OUR ENROLLMENT HAS
BEEN BOUNCING BACK CONSISTENTLY
FOR SEVERAL SEMESTERS IN A ROW.
UH, YOU MET CHANCELLOR SONIA
CHRISTIAN, UH, WITH UH, WITH
BREAK IN, WHO PROVIDED BREAKING
NEWS IN HER TESTIMONY AT THE
HIGHER EDUCATION OVERVIEW
HEARING LAST MONTH WHEN SHE
REPORTED 8% INCREASE IN HEAD
COUNT FROM FALL 2022 TO FALL
2023, WHICH FOLLOWED ON THE
HEELS OF A SIMILAR 8% INCREASE
BETWEEN SPRING OF 22 AND 20
THREE. SO DUE TO OUR INHERENT
DATA REPORTING LIMITATIONS OF
OUR SYSTEM, WE'RE DECENTRALIZED
SYSTEM WITH 116 COLLEGES
GOVERNED BY 73 INDEPENDENT
DISTRICTS. WE DON'T HAVE REAL
TIME ENROLLMENT DATA, BUT WE CAN
CONFIDENTLY REPORT THAT WE ARE
ON TRACK FOR OUR 2324 ANNUAL
HEADCOUNT TO EXCEED 2 MILLION
STUDENTS FOR THE FIRST TIME
SINCE THE ONSET OF THE PANDEMIC
IN 2020. AND EVEN MORE
ENCOURAGING ENCOURAGING IS THAT
AS OF THE MOST RECENT ANNUAL
UPDATE, UH, WE RECEIVED IN
SEPTEMBER OF 2023. WE'VE SEEN
DISPROPORTIONATELY HIGH
ENROLLMENT GROWTH AMONG OUR MOST
HISTORICALLY UNDERREPRESENTED
AND MARGINALIZED STUDENT GROUPS,
MEANING ENROLLMENT OF BLACK AND
LATINO STUDENTS, STUDENTS WITH
DISABILITIES AND STUDENTS OVER
35 YEARS OF AGE. THOSE ARE ALL
GROWING AT A HIGHER RATE THAN
THE GENERAL POPULATION. WHAT
WE'VE LEARNED ABOUT OUR STUDENTS
AND OUR SYSTEM IN THE PAST FEW
YEARS HAS REALLY UNDERSCORED THE
CRITICAL ROLE THAT COMMUNITY
COLLEGES PLAY IN OUR SOCIETY. WE
KNOW NOW THAT WHEN WE MEET
STUDENTS WHERE THEY ARE, WHEN WE
BRING EDUCATION OPPORTUNITIES TO
THEM WHEN WE TAKE THEIR BASIC
NEEDS, LIKE FOOD AND HOUSING
SECURITY INTO ACCOUNT AND
PROVIDE A ROBUST SUITE OF CAMPUS
SUPPORT SERVICES THAT WE CAN AND
WILL CONTINUE TO GROW, NOT JUST
THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS ENROLLED
IN OUR COLLEGES, BUT THE NUMBER
WHO COMPLETE A WORKFORCE PROGRAM
OR TRANSFER TO A FOUR YEAR
UNIVERSITY AND WHO MOVE ON TO
HIGH PAYING SKILLED JOBS IN OUR
RAPIDLY CHANGING ECONOMY. I'M
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS
ABOUT OUR ENROLLMENT TRENDS THAT
THE SUB COMMITTEE MAY HAVE. BUT
LET ME ONCE AGAIN THANK THE
LEGISLATURE FOR INVESTING IN OUR
STUDENTS. IN RECENT YEARS, YOU
HAVE NOT ONLY PROVIDED FUNDING
FOR ENROLMENT AND RETENTION BUT
TO ESTABLISH AND EXPAND BASIC
NEEDS CENTERS ESTABLISH
AFFORDABLE STUDENT HOUSING TO
SUPPORT STUDENTS TAKING ONLINE
CLASSES THROUGH SUBSIDIZED
INTERNET AND LAPTOPS ADDRESSING
MENTAL HEALTH NEEDS AND SO MUCH
MORE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU TO
ALL THREE OF YOU FOR YOUR YOUR
OPENING COMMENTS. APPRECIATE IT.
UM LET ME FIRST ASK, UH, JUST TO
CLARIFY I. I THINK THE FIRST
THING I THINK I SHOULD SAY IS,
UH, WE GOT IN THIS PRESENTATION
WHAT I THINK WE ASKED ABOUT IN
THE PREVIOUS TWO, WHICH IS F Tð,
E, S¼ AND HEAD COUNTS. THAT'S
HOW YOU KNOW WHERE THE GROWTH IS
GOING. AND IF IT'S IN THE RIGHT
DIRECTION. UM SO I APPRECIATE
YOU POINTING THOSE TWO
SPECIFICALLY OUT AS AS, UM, THE
STATISTICS ON BOTH OF THOSE UM
AS IT RELATES TO THE NUMBER OF
COLLEGES THAT ARE HAVE NOT COME
BACK IN TERMS OF ENROLLMENT AND
CONTINUE TO SEE THE DECLINE. I
WANNA MAKE SURE I GOT THE RIGHT
NUMBERS. I HEARD YOU MENTION 58
HAVE SEEN A YEAR OVER YEAR
INCREASE, BUT, UM, THAT THAT
WOULD MEAN THAT ROUGHLY, I GUESS
48. OTHERS HAVE HAVE NOT HAD AN
INCREASE YEAR OVER YEAR. WOULD I
THEN ASSUME OUT OF THOSE 58 THAT
HAVE SEEN EURO OVER YEAR
INCREASE OR MAYBE JUST GIVE ME
THE RAW NUMBER. IF YOU HAVE IT,
WHO'S BACK TO PREPA? LEVELS IN
TERMS OF ENROLMENT. HOW MANY
COLLEGES ARE BACK? SO UH, WHAT I
WAS TALKING ABOUT YEAR OVER YEAR
NOT NECESSARILY COMPARING BACK
TO 1920. SO IF WE WANT TO LOOK
BACK TO 1920, THE FIGURES ARE A
LITTLE DIFFERENT. UM WE HAVE 13
DISTRICTS THAT HAVE REACHED OR
EXCEEDED PRE PANIC. F Tð P S¼
THAT'S REPRESENTING ABOUT 17% OF
OUR TOTAL F Tð S¼ IN THE SYSTEM.
IN FACT, I WILL HIGHLIGHT A
COUPLE OF SOUTHWESTER CCD IN IN
YOUR DISTRICT. UH, IS ONE THAT'S
GROWN, UH, THERE ARE 2% ABOVE
THEIR PREPA ENROLLMENT. UM
ANOTHER ONE'S KERN. UH, èC Dð,
WHICH ARE COMMUNITY COLLEGE
DISTRICT, WHICH IS 12% ABOVE
PREPA. UM, AND THEN ANOTHER IN.
UH UH. MEMBER KEVIN MCCARTY'S
DISTRICT. SACRAMENTO CITY
COLLEGE. UH, THE LOS RIOS
DISTRICT IS JUST ABOUT EVEN.
THEY'RE JUST ABOUT THERE AT LIKE
A TINY PERCENTAGE LESS AND THAT
TAKES ME TO THE QUESTION. IT
DOESN'T SOUND LIKE, UH, TOO MANY
HAVE GROWN. THAT MUCH. BUT YOU
DID MENTION 14 HAVE, UH, ARE
BEYOND THEIR FUNDED GROWTH AT
THE MOMENT. SO I'M CURIOUS FROM
A SYSTEM WIDE LEVEL. HOW DO YOU
ADDRESS THE NEEDS OF THOSE 14
CAMPUSES THAT HAVE SEEN THAT
GROWTH. UH, HOW DO YOU SUPPORT
THEM? UM TO ENSURE THAT THEY
HAVE THE OFFERINGS THAT ARE
NEEDED TO MEET THAT INCREASED
DEMAND. RIGHT SO THAT'S PART OF
THEIR STRATEGIC ENROLLMENT
MANAGEMENT ACTIVITIES AND WE
PARTNER WITH OUR DISTRICTS
REALLY CLOSELY TO BE ABLE TO
HELP THEM UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR
MULTIYEAR PROJECTIONS FOR
REVENUE MIGHT BE SPECIFICALLY
AROUND THOSE TARGET GROWTH CAPS.
UM RIGHT NOW, THE GROWTH FORMULA
THAT SETS THOSE CAPS. IT'S VERY
LONG AND COMPLICATED. UH, BUT WE
ARE, YOU KNOW, WE WORK WITH
INDIVIDUAL DISTRICTS WHEN THEY
SEE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE
EXCEEDING IT TO MAKE SURE THAT
THEY'RE AWARE OF THAT AND THAT
THEY'RE ABLE TO THEN. OTHER
FUNDING THAT THEY CAN USE FOR
THEIR STUDENTS, BUT ULTIMATELY,
IT MEANS THEY'RE SPREADING AN AN
AMOUNT OF FUNDING OVER MORE
STUDENTS, UM, YOU KNOW THAN THAN
THEY WOULD IF THEY WERE ABLE TO
BE FUNDED FOR THEIR FULL GROWTH,
RIGHT? AND UH BUT THERE'S NÓ MID
YEAR ACTION THAT THE
CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE TAKES IN
ORDER TO POTENTIALLY REALLOCATE
RESOURCES WHEN YOU RECOGNIZE
THAT THAT'S HAPPENING, AND
THERE'S OTHER CAMPUSES THAT
DON'T HAVE THE GROWTH AND DON'T
REALLY NEED, UM, THAT FUNDING
LEVEL. WE DO HAVE A VERY
PRESCRI. FORMULA THAT ALLOWS US
TO DO THAT. SO AS PART OF THAT
GROWTH FORMULA, WE FIRST
IDENTIFY WHAT THE CAP IS, AND
USUALLY IT'S A YOU KNOW A SMALL
PERCENTAGE. IF EVERY DISTRICT
ONCE WE FUND IT UP TO THAT CAP.
IF THERE'S REMAINING GROWTH
FUNDS, WE ARE ABLE TO REALLOCATE
IT BACK TO OTHER DISTRICTS WITH
GROWTH, BUT ONLY UP TO 10% OVER
THEIR BASE F Tð S¼ FROM THE
PRIOR YEAR, SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE
A SECOND CAP A BUILT IN SO IF
THEY GROW MORE THAN THAT 10%
BASE, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE
FUNDED FOR IT. UM ASK YOU A
QUESTION. I DIDN'T GET TO ASK
THE OTHER PANELS. UH, REGARDING
THE CAL GRANT. UH, FRAMEWORK OF
THE REFORM AS IT WAS REFERRED
TO, UM HAVE YOU HAD AN
OPPORTUNITY TO ANALYZE WHAT THAT
WOULD MEAN IN TERMS OF
ENROLLMENT OPPORTUNITIES? MAYBE
ENROLLMENT GROWTH FOR YOU IF
REFORM WAS TO BE FULLY
IMPLEMENTED, WE DON'T HAVE A
SPECIFIC QUANTITATIVE ANALYSIS
WITH EMPIRICAL DATA ON THAT, BUT
I CAN TELL YOU THAT OUR STUDENTS
BEING FROM UNDERREPRESENTED
GROUPS, OFTEN FROM LOW INCOME
BACKGROUNDS ARE WOULD BENEFIT
GREATLY FROM THAT FROM CAL GRANT
REFORM. UM, WE FEEL WOULD BE A
HUGE BOOST TO OUR SYSTEM. WE
THINK IT WOULD IMPROVE
ENROLLMENTS AND MAKE IT POSSIBLE
FOR MORE STUDENTS TO ATTEND
COMMUNITY COLLEGES. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. I'LL TURN IT OVER TO
MISTER FANG. THANK YOU SO MUCH,
MR CHAIR. UH AND TO ECHO THE
COMMENTS AROUND CALM REFORM. I
THINK THAT COULD DEFINITELY
IMPACT. UH SIX FIGURES, STUDENTS
IN THE CHEMICAL SYSTEMS THAT
ACCURATE STATEMENT. I THINK WE
WOULD HAVE LOVED TO HAVE SEEN
THAT THAT'S VERY POSSIBLE OVER
100,000 AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, OK?
IN TERMS OF DUAL ENROLLMENT
OPPORTUNITIES WHEN I LOOKED AT
THE CHART AN ACCURATE THAT
THERE'S THE 60,000 STUDENTS.
WHAT'S THE 40 50,000? CAN SEE
THE NUMBER THERE, BUT IT IS
CONTINUING TO GROW.
EXPONENTIALLY SINCE 2016 ON PAGE
24. I'M SORRY 21 PAGES 2424. UM,
YES, UH OUR COLLEAGUES AT THE L,
A Ó HAVE REACHED OUT AND
DECIDED, YOU KNOW UP TO DATE
DATA. WE'RE SEEING AN EVEN
GREATER INCREASE IN 20 THREE 24
AS FAR AS, UH DUAL ENROLLMENT
AND INCREASES IN THAT CATEGORY
OF DUAL ENROLLMENT STUDENTS. IT
IS INCHING UP EVEN A BIT MORE.
BUT I BELIEVE THIS IS HEADCOUNT
AS OPPOSED TO, UH, THE F Tð
SORRY. UM AND I KNOW THE
CHANCELLOR WITH DIVISION 2030
PROGRAM. AND HOW DO YOU SEE
THAT? GROWING OUT IN THE NEXT
FIVE YEARS? WE'RE REALLY TO BE
DOUBLING DOWN ON OUR EFFORTS IN
THAT AREA. WE'RE WORKING ON. UM
YOU KNOW, A NUMBER OF PILOT
DEMONSTRATION PROJECTS TO, YOU
KNOW, TO IMPROVE OUR OPERATIONS
IN ALL THE AREAS IDENTIFIED IN
OUR NEW STRATEGIC VISION. DO
ENROLLMENT IS A HUGE PIECE OF
THAT. SO WE'RE REALLY WORKING ON
, UM, WORKING ON CONVENING
GROUPS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE
REALLY IMPLEMENTING DUAL
ENROLLMENT WITH EQUITY IN MIND
AND REALLY TAKING A LOOK AT YOU
KNOW WHERE THE WHERE THE
OPPORTUNITIES ARE. FOR DISTRICTS
TO MOVE INTO THAT SPACE AND
PROVIDE A BETTER PATHWAY FOR
STUDENTS INTO COLLEGE. THANK
YOU. I KNOW THE LEGISLATURE HAS
BEEN VERY FOCUSED ON SUPPORTING
THOSE EFFORTS AT THE COLLEGE
LEVEL FOR THE HIGH SCHOOL
STUDENTS AND REALLY AMPLIFYING
THOSE OPPORTUNITIES. SO THANK
YOU FOR THAT UPDATE, UH, IN
TERMS OF THE YEAR OVER YEAR
ENROLLMENT YOU MENTIONED 58
DISTRICTS OUT OF 73. SO ARE
THERE REGIONAL DIFFERENCES IN A
ROMAN PATTERNS SIMILAR TO THE
èC S¼ U OR WHAT DO YOU SEE THE
GROWTH IN THE ME CALL SYSTEM.
AND WHERE ARE THE CHALLENGES
WITH PART OF THIS OF THE STATE?
RIGHT SO WE DO SEE, UH, SOME
REGIONAL DIFFERENCES. I CAN TELL
YOU THAT. YOU KNOW WHEN WE'RE
LOOKING. I'M LOOKING AT
HEADCOUNT HERE AND COMPARING
BETWEEN 1920 1920 2220 THREE.
AND UM, WE'RE DEFINITELY SEEING,
UH, MORE GROWTH IN THE CENTRAL
VALLEY SOUTH CENTRAL REGIONS AND
THE INLAND EMPIRE. THEY'RE
REBOUNDING A LOT MORE QUICKLY,
UM, THE AREAS THAT ARE KIND OF
LAGGING BEHIND A LITTLE BIT OR
THE BAY AREA, SAN DIEGO AND LOS
ANGELES AREAS THEY A LITTLE
SLOWER TO BE RETURNING IN
ENROLLMENT GROWTH. UM, AND AGAIN
. I DON'T HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW,
QUANTITATIVE STUDY ON THAT. BUT
I CAN TELL YOU ANECDOTALLY. WHAT
WE HEAR IS I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT
OF GOOD JOBS IF YOU CAN WORK IN,
YOU KNOW IF YOU'RE IN THE IN A
LARGE, UH, A REGION WITH A LOT
OF, YOU KNOW, IN LARGE CITY WITH
A LOT OF EMPLOYMENT
OPPORTUNITIES, AND YOU CAN MAKE
$20 AT THE WIENERSCHNITZEL GOING
BACK TO COMMUNITY COLLEGE
DOESN'T FEEL MAYBE AS ESSENTIAL
AS, UH, AS IT MIGHT IN OTHER
REGIONS. UM, SO YOU KNOW, WE ARE
HOPING I'M SURE THAT WE'LL BE
UH, STATEWIDE, MAKING IT BACK TO
PRE PANDEMIC LEVELS. BUT THOSE
AREAS ARE GROWING A LITTLE MORE
SLOWLY. THANK YOU. AND THEN IN
TERMS OF REACHING STUDENTS WHERE
THEY ARE, I THINK THE PANDEMIC
RELATES REALLY CHANGED
EVERYTHING WE KNOW THAT CAN
COLLEGE CLASSES AS YOU MENTIONED
ON MARCH 1320 20 OVERNIGHT BUT
SPEND A FEW WEEKS WHEN ALL
ONLINE AND SO IS LOOK AT WE
CONTINUE TO GROW CHEMIC COLLEGE
ENROLLMENT. I KNOW THAT THERE'S
DIFFERENT MODELS THAT STUDENTS
ARE VERY MUCH LOOKING AT. SO ARE
WE DOING A STATEWIDE SURVEY OF
OUR STUDENTS OF OUR DISTRICTS?
TO REALLY LOOK AT WHAT OUR
STUDENTS ARE REALLY LOOKING FOR?
THEY'RE LOOKING FOR FLEX
SCHEDULING HYBRID CLASSES.
ASYNCHRONOUS IN PERSON. YEAH,
ABSOLUTELY. WHAT WE'VE REALLY
BEEN FINDING IS THAT STUDENTS
ARE LOOKING FOR MORE FLEXIBILITY
AND MORE OPTIONS. UM, RIGHT NOW
IN 20 THREE 24 CLOSE TO HALF OF
OUR COURSES HAVE SOME COMPONENT
OF ONLINE. BUT IT'S ABOUT 45 PER
CENT WILL HAVE EITHER THEY'RE
EITHER FULLY ONLINE. THEY'RE
HYBRID ASYNCHRONOUS OR
SYNCHRONOUS ONLINE. UM, THEY MAY
MEET IN PERSON A COUPLE OF
SESSIONS AND THEN HAVE MOST OF
THEIR WORK DONE ONLINE. UH,
STUDENTS TEND TO REGISTER FOR
THOSE CLASSES MORE QUICKLY. SO
THAT'S UH YOU KNOW, IT'S
DEFINITELY SEEING THERE'S A
DEMAND FOR THAT. UM WE'RE ALSO
UH, REALLY WORKING ON, UH, THE
WORKING LEARNER PROJECT WHERE
WE'RE, UH, DESIGNING COURSE
SCHEDULING TO MEET THE NEEDS OF
STUDENTS SO THAT WE'RE DOING
SHORTER TERM SEQUENCED COURSES.
SO RATHER THAN SIGNING UP FOR
ONE CLASS THAT'S GONNA LAST 18
WEEKS OF YOUR LIFE WHERE THERE
COULD BE MAJOR. DISRUPTIONS UM,
WE'RE TRYING TO BLOCK THOSE INTO
SHORTER TERM 6 TO 8 WEEK COURSE
TERMS SO THAT STUDENTS HAVE A
BETTER CHANCE OF COMPLETING
THAT. UM, SO THAT'S SOME OF THE
WORK WE'RE WORKING ON. WE
DEFINITELY SEE THAT STUDENTS ARE
LOOKING FOR FLEXIBILITY. THANK
YOU. AND LASTLY, YOU MENTIONED
EARLIER IN YOUR PRESENTATION
THAT WE DON'T HAVE REAL TIME
DATA. UM AS WE'RE REALLY WAITING
FOR DATA AND ENROLLMENT DATA
FROM EACH OF THE CHEMIC COLLEGE
DISTRICTS. WHAT IS THAT, LIKE
TIME LOOK LIKE AND HOW DO WE
CONTINUE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE
GETTING AS MUCH ACCURATE AND
TIMELY INFORMATION AS POSSIBLE.
SO FOR DATA THAT, UH ON FALL
2020 THREE, FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE
. WE SHOULD HAVE MOST OF IT BY
THE END OF MARCH. WE RIGHT NOW
ARE JUST MISSING DATA FROM THREE
COLLEGES. SO YOU KNOW THAT'S A
GOOD SIX MONTH. YOU KNOW, UH,
TURNOVER FOR THE F Tð E S¼ THAT
IS REPORTED TO US FOR FUNDING
PURPOSES. WE GET A LITTLE BIT.
WE GET THAT A LITTLE BIT SOONER.
UM DISTRICTS ARE GIVING US
ESTIMATES THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
BUT THEN THAT'S TRUE UP. UH NOT
UNTIL NOVEMBER IS THE FINAL TRUE
UP FOR THAT DATA FROM THE PRIOR
YEAR. OK? THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. THANK YOU,
MR MCCARTHY. THANK YOU, I. I
WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON THIS
QUESTION ABOUT HERE ABOUT THE
CHANGING NATURE. UH, YOU KNOW,
COLLEGE, ESPECIALLY COMMUNITY
COLLEGE, PLUS THE PANDEMIC. YOU
KNOW, STUDENTS AT AND LOT OF
COMMUNITY COLLEGE STUDENTS THAT
CHALLENGES IN THEIR LIVES WITH
FAMILY AND WORK. AND SO THE
WHOLE NOTION OF DOING STUFF
HYBRID IS APPEALING. UM AND JUST
KIND OF A DIFFERENT MODELS. AND
SO YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALWAYS KIND
OF FELT THAT THERE'S COMPETITION
FOR COMMUNITY COLLEGES WITH SOME
OF THESE UM FOR PROFIT SCHOOLS,
WHICH ARE OBVIOUSLY ARE NOT FREE
. AND YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T GET
FINANCIAL AID AND WE LET LOVE
OUR COMMUNITY COLLEGES. BUT ARE
ARE YOU ARE YOU SEEING KIND OF
WHAT HE WAS ASKING MISTER FONG
CHAIRMAN FONG THAT WE'RE DOING
THINGS DIFFERENTLY TO TRY TO GO
AFTER THE STUDENTS WHO MAY CAUSE
WE'RE SEEING ONE PEOPLE NEED TO
GET MORE EDUCATION TO GET A GOOD
JOB. TO ENROLMENT DROPPING AT
COMMUNITY COLLEGES. SO PEOPLE
ARE PROBABLY GOING SOMEWHERE. SO
YOU KNOW, SHOULD ARE WE NOT
DOING THINGS THAT WE NEED TO BE
DOING TO CREATE MORE, UM
EFFECTIVE WAYS TO DRAW STUDENTS
BACK IN THEIR EYES. WELL, I'D
LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU, UH, SOME
OF THE RETENTION ENROLLMENT
ACTIVITIES THAT WE'RE ENGAGED IN
. UM AND SO AGAIN, IT'S MANY OF
THE STATE'S RECENT INVESTMENTS
HAVE REALLY BEEN CRITICAL FOR
OUR RECOVERY, AND WE REALLY
EXPRESS OUR GRATITUDE TO THE
ADMINISTRATION AND THE
LEGISLATURE FOR PROVIDING
FUNDING FOR VARIOUS PROGRAMS. I
WANT TO TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT
ABOUT THE COVID-19 RECOVERY
BLOCK GRANT THAT WAS PROVIDED
FOR ACTIVITIES TO DIRECTLY
SUPPORT DIVERSE STUDENT GROUPS
AND MITIGATE PANDEMIC RELATED
LEARNING LOSSES. SO DISTRICTS
USE THOSE FUNDS TO FACILITATE
QUALITY DISTANCE LEARNING, UH TO
RE ENGAGE STUDENTS TO REMOVE
BARRIERS TO RE ENROLLMENT CLOSE
THE DIGITAL DIVIDE AND, UH,
SUPPORT PROVIDE ALSO SUPPORT FOR
BASIC NEEDS. UH, WE REALLY
STRATEGICALLY FOCUSED RESOURCES
TO RE ENGAGE INDIVIDUALS WHO MAY
HAVE DISENGAGED OR DROPPED OUT
IN RECENT YEARS, DEMONSTRATING
OUR COMMITMENT TO INCLUSIVITY
AND EDUCATIONAL EQUITY. SO WE
ALSO HAD RETENTION AND
ENROLLMENT OUTREACH FUNDS THEY
WERE PROVIDED SPECIFICALLY FOR
COLLEGES TO RECRUIT ENGAGE,
ENROLL REENROLL STUDENTS WITH A
FOCUS ON CULTURALLY RELEVANT
STRATEGIES. UH, DISTRICTS WILL
BE REPORTING ON THEIR USE OF
RETENTION ENROLLMENT OUTREACH
FUNDS IN JUNE OF 2025. SO WE
WILL WE'LL HEAR MORE STORIES
ABOUT WHAT THEY WERE USING. UM,
BUT WE ALSO HAD STATEWIDE
RETENTION ENROLLMENT FUNDS, SO
WE HAD LAUNCHED THE ICANN
CAMPAIGN, WHICH WAS A REALLY
EXCITING ENROLLMENT BLITZ THAT
SPREAD OUR ENROLLMENT MESSAGES,
INCLUDING IN LANGUAGE MESSAGES
ON CAMPUS. Tð VÆ STREAMING RADIO
SOCIAL MEDIA, UH, ONLINE
ADVERTISING. AND OF COURSE, IF
YOU FLY IN AND OUT OF ANY
AIRPORT IN CALIFORNIA, YOU'VE
PROBABLY SEEN OUR BILLBOARDS. I
CAN GO TO COLLEGE. UM AND AGAIN
WE HAVEN'T DONE A COMPREHENSIVE
ANALYSIS BUT SOME OF THE SOME OF
THE, UM, ACTIVITIES THAT
DISTRICTS HAVE REPORTED BACK TO
US, UM, WERE REIMAGINING HOW TO
MAXIMIZE STUDENT SUPPORT BY
PACKAGING, FINANCIAL AID,
EMERGENCY GRANTS AND
PHILANTHROPIC DOLLARS. LET ME
ASK YOU A DIFFERENT QUESTION, I.
I SUPPORT ALL THOSE WE HELP
CRAFT THESE, I GUESS WITH THE
QUESTION. WE'VE BEEN ASKING THE
LAST FEW YEARS AND I BRING THIS
UP ALL THE TIME. SO MAYBE IT'S
REPETITIVE. IS THAT COMMUNITY
COLLEGES BY AND LARGE, THE BEAR
ARE PRETTY LOW. YOU HAVE TO BE
PRETTY MUCH 18. NOW YOU CAN
ACTUALLY BE A HIGH SCHOOL
STUDENT, BUT YOU CAN ONLY ENTER
PRETTY MUCH TWICE A YEAR. AND
AUGUST FOR THE FALL IN JANUARY
FOR THE SPRING, I GUESS THERE'S
SUMMER AND WINTER, WHEREAS THE
FOR PROFIT SCHOOLS YOU CAN
ENROLL EVERY MONDAY MORNING. AND
SO IT'S LIKE ONE WEEKEND. HEY I
WANNA GO TO COLLEGE LIKE MONDAY.
YOU GET TO ENROLL. UM AND YOU
CAN SOMETIMES TAKE CLASSES ON
FRIDAY NIGHTS OR ON WEEKENDS OR
ON FRIDAYS. AND SO YOU KNOW, I
THINK THAT BY AND LARGE
COMMUNITY COLLEGES HAVE BEEN
PRETTY MUCH THE SAME FOR DECADES
. YOU KNOW THE SAME MODEL YOU
TWICE A YEAR. MOST OF YOUR
CLASSES ARE MONDAY THROUGH
THURSDAY AND YOU KNOW, MOSTLY
FROM NINE TO THREE ON THOSE
DAYS. AND I THINK PEOPLE IN THE
REAL WORLD ARE LIKE, HEY, WE
HAVE OTHER OPTIONS WE'RE PUTTING
WITH OUR FEET. SO WE KEEP COMING
BACK. LIKE WHAT ARE WE DOING
DIFFERENTLY TO REACH THESE CAUSE
? IT SEEMS LIKE OH, WE'RE
DROPPING. WE'RE NOT LIKE
FOLLOWING WHAT CUSTOMERS OUT
THERE WHAT THEY'D LIKE, UM SOME
OF I KNOW THAT SOME ARE SOME
COMMUNITY COLLEGES OFFER NOW.
SHORTER LIKE YOU KNOW, EIGHT
WEEK COURSES AND STUFF. BUT ARE
WE REALLY ARE WE ARE WE DOING
THINGS DIFFERENTLY TO THINKING
OUTSIDE THE BOX BECAUSE IF WE'RE
NOT, I THINK THIS IS A NOT A
DEATH SPIRAL, BUT LIKE WE KEEP
HURTING. BECAUSE STUDENTS EVEN
THOUGH THEY'RE MORE EXPENSIVE,
THE OTHER OPTIONS. I GET WHAT WE
HAD A HEARING A FEW YEARS AGO
AND ONE YEAR THE CHANCELLOR HE
HE MOVED ON FROM SAN DIEGO. UM
HE WAS SAYING, YOU KNOW, WE
OFFER FREE IT'S COLLEGES AND WE
WERE GIVING PEOPLE MONEY. COME
TO CLASS LIKE WHAT? SOME OF YOU
WERE PAYING PEOPLE TO GO TO
CLASS, GIVING BONUSES. SOME
STUDENTS ARE LIKE NÓ. I'M GONNA
GO OVER HERE AND PAY MONEY OUT
OF MY POCKET AND GO IN DEBT
BECAUSE IT WORKS MORE FOR ME. SO
THAT'S KIND OF A WAKE UP SIGNAL
TO US IS LIKE, HM, MAYBE OUR
PRODUCT ISN'T QUITE WHAT THE
PEOPLE NEED. YOU KNOW WHAT I
MEAN? YEAH THANK YOU FOR THAT
QUESTION. I ABSOLUTELY WE ARE
CHANGING THE WAY WE DO THINGS,
UM, SO I'LL JUST I'LL HIGHLIGHT
AGAIN. YOU KNOW SOME OF THE WORK
WE'VE DONE AROUND COURSE
SCHEDULING, YOU KNOW TO REALLY
MAKE IT, UH, MORE ATTRACTIVE BY
DOING THE BLOCK SCHEDULING THE
SHORTER TERM SEQUENT COURT
SEQUENCED COURSES BY ENCOURAGING
DISTRICTS TO SCHEDULE IN THE
EVENINGS AND ON WEEKENDS WHEN
STUDENTS ARE AVAILABLE, UH AND
YOU KNOW ALSO, I'M A LOT OF OUR
DISTRICTS HAVE MOVED TO INSTEAD
OF HAVING ALL A START. ON THE
FIRST DAY OF THE SEMESTER,
THERE'LL BE STAGGERED ENROLLMENT
DATES SO THEY MAY HAVE A YOU
KNOW, A SUITE OF COURSES THAT
STARTS LATER IN THE SEMESTER. SO
YOU CAN CATCH THESE LATE
ENROLLMENTS. UM NOW AGAIN, THESE
DECISIONS ARE ALL MADE, YOU KNOW
, ACROSS 100 AND 16 DIFFERENT
COLLEGES INDIVIDUALLY AND HOW
THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING THEIR
COURSE. SCHEDULING BUT THESE
ARE, UH, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE
PRACTICES AND ACTIVITIES THAT
WERE HIGHLIGHTING, PROMOTING AND
REALLY ENCOURAGING. THANK YOU.
I'M SORRY. ONE MORE QUESTION, MR
CHAIR. AS FAR AS THE NOTION THAT
COMMUNITY COLLEGES OFFER SOME
FOUR YEAR DEGREES. I KNOW
THEY'RE KIND OF CONSTERNATION
WITH THE PRIOR PANEL, BUT THEY
LEFT THE ROOM SO DON'T EVEN HEAR
NOW SO YOU CAN TELL ME WHAT YOU
REALLY THINK. SO HOW IS THE
IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT GOING?
AND DO YOU ANTICIPATE ANY, UM
MORE? UM CHANGES IN STATE LAW TO
DO YOU KNOW SOME FOUR YEAR
DEGREES ON COMMUNITY COLLEGES
WHERE THEY DON'T COMPETE
POTENTIALLY WITH èC S¼ U. WE'RE
DEFINITELY WORKING ON APPROVING
PROGRAMS THAT DON'T COMPETE.
THAT'S ONE OF THE PRIMARY. UH
PIECES OF THE LAW AROUND
COMMUNITY COLLEGES, AND I
BELIEVE WE'VE RECENTLY
ESTABLISHED A NUMBER OF PROGRAMS
THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD WE
HAVE AGREEMENT AHEAD OF TIME.
WHERE WHERE THERE ISN'T A
COMPETITION, SO WE CAN MOVE
FORWARD MORE QUICKLY ON THOSE
UM, I'LL TELL YOU WE HAVE RIGHT
NOW. 39 PROGRAMS AT 32 COLLEGES.
UH A TOTAL ENROLLMENT ABOUT A
LITTLE OVER 2800 STUDENTS IN
THESE FOUR YEAR DEGREE PROGRAMS,
AND WE HAVE SEVERAL PROGRAMS,
THOUGH THAT HAVE RECENTLY BEEN
APPROVED. WE HAVEN'T REALLY
LAUNCHED THOSE YET. MR. THANK
YOU, MR MERCI. THANK YOU. I UH,
QUESTION FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF
FINANCE. SO UM, AM I CORRECT IN
UNDERSTANDING THAT, UH, THAT ANY
UNEARNED ENROLLMENT GROWTH FUNDS
UH, WE, WHERE WOULD THE ANY
UNEARNED ENROLLMENT GROWTH FUNDS
BE BE GOING TO, UH, UNDER THE
GOVERNORS GENERAL BUDGET
PROPOSAL. HØI MICHELLE NAN WITH
THE DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE. UH,
SO THERE'S A STATUTORY AND
PROVISIONAL LANGUAGE THAT
INDICATES THAT IF THERE IF THERE
ARE ANY UNUSED FUNDS WELL, THE
STATUTORY LANGUAGE SAYS IT COULD
BE USED TO FUND GROWTH IN THE
SUPPLEMENTAL ALLOCATION. PART OF
THE FORMULA, WHICH IS FOR YOU
KNOW STUDENTS RECEIVING PELL
GRANTS, UH OR IT'S FOR DISTRICTS
WHO WOULD BE DOING BETTER IN
THAT PART OF THE FORMULA OR FOR
DISTRICTS THAT ARE DOING BETTER
ON THE SUCCESS OUTCOMES. THE
FORMULA FOR MORE BROADLY, THE
PROVISIONAL LANGUAGE INDICATES
THAT ANY UNEARNED ENROLLMENT
GROWTH FUNDS CAN BE USED TO, UM
CAN BE USED FOR OTHER SHORTFALLS
IN THE FORMULA. AND THAT OF
ANALYSTS. JUST TO ADD THAT TO
THAT, THAT'S CORRECT. UH, IF
ENROLLMENT GROWTH FUNDS ARE NOT
EARNED BY DISTRICTS THAT CAN BE
USED TO BACKFILL ANY SHORTFALLS
WITH PROPERTY TAXES COME IN
SHORT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IF
THAT'S NOT THE CASE, THEN THE
STATE TYPICALLY SWEEPS THAT
MONEY. AND REVERSE IT IN THE
PROPOSITION 98 REVERSION ACCOUNT
TO USE FOR OTHER PROPOSITION I
Dð PURPOSES OR JUST TO ACHIEVE
BUDGET SAVINGS. THAT'S EXACTLY
WHAT THE LEGISLATURE DID IN LAST
JUNE'S BUDGET WHEN IT FOUND THAT
NONE OF THE $24 MILLION THAT THE
LEGISLATURE HAD PROVIDED IN 2122
HAD BEEN ACTUALLY EARNED OR
NEEDED FOR ENROLLMENT GROWTH OR
BACKFILL PURPOSES. SO
LEGISLATURE JUST REVERTED THAT
MONEY AND USED IT FOR SOMETHING
ELSE. AND SO THE LEGISLATURE
WILL WANT TO DO THAT. AGAIN WITH
THE 2223 MONEY. THAT'S UNEARNED.
WE THE CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE SAID.
IT'S ABOUT $8 MILLION. THAT'S
GONNA BE UNEARNED SO THAT CAN BE
SWEPT AS WELL. AND WOULD THAT BE
SWEPT FOR ANY SHORTFALLS LIMITED
TO COMMUNITY COLLEGE SHORTFALLS
OR OR CAN IT ALSO GO TO Kò 12
SCHOOLS? IT COULD GO TO Kò 12
CERTAINLY. YEAH, FOR ANY
PROPOSITION 98 PURPOSE. IS THERE
ANY PRECEDENT FOR THAT
HAPPENING? I'M NOT AWARE OF IT.
I, UH TYPICALLY, THE LEGISLATURE
LIKES TO STICK TO THIS HISTORIC
FRACT HISTORICAL PRACTICE OF
PROVIDING 10.93% OF PROPOSITION
98 MONEY FOR COMMUNITY COLLEGES.
THAT'S JUST BASED ON HOW MUCH
THE LEGISLATURE GAVE THE
COLLEGES BACK IN 1989, SO IT'S
NOT BASED ON ANY ANY EXTERNAL OR
OR PROGRAMMATIC, UH, REASONS THE
LEGISLATURE HAS BEEN DOING THAT,
UH, TYPICALLY KIPPING AT AROUND
10.9, BUT CERTAINLY THE
LEGISLATURE COULD USE IT. HAS
THAT ABILITY. THERE'S NOTHING IN
THE CONSTITUTION OR STATUTE THAT
SAYS YOU SHALL SPEND A CERTAIN
AMOUNT AND OR HAVE TO USE
UNEARNED MONEY FROM Kò 12 OR
COMMUNITY COLLEGES. ON THAT
SEGMENT. YOU HAVE THAT ABILITY
TO DECIDE. UM, I, UM WANTED TO
FOLLOW UP ON, UH MR FONG'S FOCUS
ON, UH, TOOL ENROLLMENT. I II. I
KNOW THAT WHEN I HAD A COMMUNITY
WORKSHOP AT EL CAMINO COLLEGE,
UH, IN MY DISTRICT, UM, THERE
THERE WAS A HUGE TURNOUT OF
FAMILIES. UH, THAT, UH, THAT
WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE
DUAL ENROLLMENT PROGRAM AND, UH
AGAIN, YOU KNOW? SUPPORTING
PROGRAMS WHERE THE YOU KNOW
WHERE THERE IS THE GREATEST
DEMAND FROM CALIFORNIA STUDENTS.
UH, II, I THINK UNTIL ENROLLMENT
IS DEFINITELY THERE. YOU KNOW,
IF A VERY PROMISING UH UH
DIRECTION IN THIS CHART. UM YEAH
. SEEMS TO ILLUSTRATE THAT
CLEARLY, BUT, UH, I, I WAS
WONDERING IF, UH THE
CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE HAS ANY
DEMOGRAPHIC DATA IN TERMS OF,
UH, YOU KNOW WHO'S TAKING
ADVANTAGE OF THE DOLE ENROLLMENT
PROGRAMS? UH YOU KNOW THE DO
THEY TEND TO BE, UH REFLECTIVE
OF THE OF THE HISTORIC COMMUNITY
COLLEGE STUDENT POPULATION, OR,
YOU KNOW, IS IT IS IT SKEWING
MORE TOWARD? UH UH, YOU KNOW,
SUBURBAN. UH UH, YOU KNOW,
SCHOOL KIDS, MIDDLE CLASS, UH,
KIDS. SO I DON'T HAVE THAT
INFORMATION RIGHT NOW. BUT WE'LL
BE GLAD TO WORK WITH YOUR STAFF
TO PROVIDE. YOU KNOW AS MUCH
DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION AS WE
CAN GIVE YOU ON THAT. IT'S
CERTAINLY OUR GOAL THAT THAT
DUAL ENROLLMENT IS ROLLED OUT
WITH EQUITY AT TOP OF MIND.
YEAH, II. I KNOW THAT, UH, WE
JUST RECENTLY PASSED A MISTER
HOLDEN'S LATEST BILL ON ON
STRENGTHENING THE EQUITY
PROVISIONS OF THE DUAL
ENROLLMENT PROGRAM, BUT, UH UH,
II, I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN
GETTING THAT THAT DATA YEAH.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I WILL
HAVE ANOTHER AGENDA ITEM ON THIS
, BUT TO ENROLLMENT IN
SPECIFICALLY THERE IS A PROPOSAL
. UM UH, OF $60 MILLION THAT I
JUST REMEMBERED, UH AND THE
GOVERNOR'S JANUARY BUDGET
RELATED TO NURSING PROGRAMS, AND
THERE'S LIKE I, AT LEAST MYSELF
HAVE NOT SEEN ANYTHING MORE IN
TERMS OF SPECIFIC. DO YOU
ANTICIPATE THAT TO BE FOR IN
THAT'S GOING TO BE CALCULATED
INTO YOUR ENROLLMENT GROWTH OR
OR TO WHAT EXTENT, DO YOU DO?
YOU HAVE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT,
OR THE DEPARTMENT WANTS TO TALK
ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANS FOR
ENROLLMENT AT COMMUNITY COLLEGE.
THANK YOU. GO ON. UH, SURE. YEAH
SO THEY, UH, $60 MILLION
PROPOSAL THAT, UH, THAT'S BEING
PROPOSED. THAT WAS A PART OF THE
2020 THREE BUDGET ACT AGREEMENT.
UM IT WOULD BE CONSIDERED
SEPARATE FROM THE FUNDING
FORMULA, SO IT WOULDN'T BE
CONNECTED TO YOU IN ENROLLMENT
GROWTH SPECIFICALLY, YOU KNOW,
AS YOU NOTED, THERE ISN'T A LOT
OF DETAIL RIGHT NOW, UM, ON THAT
PROPOSAL, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY IN
AS AS THAT GETS FLUSHED OUT,
THAT COULD BE SOMETHING TO
CONSIDER OK. AND AS FAR AS
DETAILS ARE YOU, UM ARE YOU
DEVELOPING DETAILS FOR THE MAY
REVISION, OR ARE YOU EXPECTING
THE LEGISLATURE TO HELP PROVIDE
DETAILS ON THAT? WELL, UM IN IN
LAST YEAR'S BUDGET AGREEMENT. I
BELIEVE THAT WAS THAT WAS A
LEGISLATIVE AD. UM SO I THINK
OUR EXPECTATION IS THAT WE WILL,
YOU KNOW, WORK WITH WITH THE
LEGISLATURE WITH LEGISLATIVE
STAFF ON ON THAT SPECIFIC
PROPOSAL. THANK YOU APPRECIATE
THAT. OK UM, THAT'S IT. I DON'T
THINK ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS. SO UM, THAT'S THE END
OF OUR PANEL. HERE IT'S LIKE ARE
THE OTHER ITEMS WILL CONTINUE TO
BE OPEN FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION.
THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOUR
TIME AND YOUR PRESENCE HERE AND
ANSWERING OUR QUESTIONS WITH
THAT WE ARE ADJOURNED. OH LOOK
AT THAT. WE ARE NOT A JOURNAL.
WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS. WHAT
WOULD HAVE HAPPENED IF I
ACTUALLY GAVELED? TECHNICALLY
YOU HAVE TO STOP. UNL, OK?
APOLOGIZE TO AND YOU KNOW WHAT?
I STARTED YESTERDAY? UH,
COLLEAGUES WEREN'T THERE AND I
FORGOT TO DO THAT TODAY. UM
WE'RE ALLOWING, AND WE'RE GONNA
TRY IT AGAIN IS ALLOWING SOME
PUBLIC TESTIMONY ON THE FRONT
END OF THE COMMITTEE TO GET SOME
INPUT ON SOME OF THE, UH, PANELS
THAT WE LATER HEARD ABOUT WILL
PROBABLY CONTINUE THAT AND I
FORGOT TO DO THAT TODAY. BUT SO
BUT NOW IT IS APPROPRIATE FOR
OUR PUBLIC TO COME FORWARD AND
PROVIDE SOME TESTIMONY. PLEASE
COME FORWARD. THE COMMITTEE. MY
NAME IS KEITH ELLIS. I'M THE, UM
VICE PRESIDENT OF THE ALUMNI
ASSOCIATIONS OF èC AND EU
REGIONS. I JUST WANT TO LEND MY
SUPPORT TO THE PRESENTATION THAT
YOU RECEIVED TODAY AND, UM, JUST
VALIDATE THAT THE REGIONS DO
TAKE SERIOUSLY OUR ADMISSIONS
AND ENROLLMENT, ESPECIALLY WITH
REGARD TO OUR 2030 PLAN AND OUR
2050 PLAN. UM AND I THINK IT IS
WORTHY OF US TO LOOK AT, UH, THE
NON-RESIDENT TUITION AS YOU HAVE
, UH, UH, ARTICULATED TODAY, SO
THANK YOU SO MUCH AND LOOK
FORWARD TO WORKING IN
PARTNERSHIP WITH YOU. THANK GOOD
AFTERNOON TO A AND M UH, MELISSA
BARDO ON BEHALF OF THE EDUCATION
, TRUST WE APPRECIATE THE ROBUST
DISCUSSION TODAY REGARDING
ACCESS AND ENROLLMENT AT
CALIFORNIA'S HIGHER EDUCATION
SYSTEMS REGARDING THE GOVERNOR'S
PROPOSAL TO DEFER ONGOING
FUNDING FOR U èC UNDERGRAD
RESIDENT ENROLLMENT. WE MUST
EXPRESS OUR CONCERN THAT DELAYS
OF THIS FUNDING ALONGSIDE DELAYS
IN BASE INCREASED FUNDING COULD
LEAD THE U èC TO INCREASE NON
RESIDENTS AND UNDERGRADUATE
ENROLLMENT TO BACKFILL OPERATING
COST INCREASES. WEST HAS
TRADITIONALLY SUPPORTED THESE
INVESTMENTS AS WE KNOW THAT LOW
INCOME STUDENTS AND FIRST
GENERATION STUDENTS ARE, UM, CAN
SOMETIMES BE PLACE BOUND AND PUT
US PUT OFF COLLEGE ALTOGETHER IF
THEY CANNOT ACCESS SEAT AT THEIR
LOCAL CAMPUSES. WE THOUGHT, UM
REGARDING THE GOVERNOR PROPOSAL
TO ALLOCATE NEARLY $30 MILLION
ONGOING FUNDING FOR ENROLLMENT
GROWTH AT THE COMMUNITY
COLLEGES. WE RESPECTFULLY
REQUEST THE LEGISLATURE ADOPT
THIS PROPOSAL. WE SUPPORT MANY
OF THE LOCAL STRATEGIES THAT
DISTRICTS ARE EMPLOYING TO
EXPAND ACCESS, INCLUDING
EXPANSION OF DUAL ENROLLMENT
PROGRAMS AND DIRECT OUTREACH TO
NONTRADITIONAL STUDENTS. AND
LASTLY, WE CONTINUE TO EMPATHIZE
THE IMPORTANCE OF ACCOUNTABILITY
, OVERSIGHT AND RACE CONSCIOUS
GOALS AND METRICS TO ENSURE THAT
CAMPUSES AND DISTRICTS ARE
MAKING PROGRESS. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU ANY OTHER PUBLIC
COMMENT? OK, èC N N. WE ARE
ADJOURNED NOW.