WELCOME TO THE ASSEMBLY NATURAL
RESOURCES COMMITTEE. UH, WE'VE
GOT 18 MEASURES ON THE AGENDA
TODAY. IT'S GOOD TO SEE OUR
FRIEND FROM THE SENATE SENATOR
FORINO. UM PLEASE NOTE THAT A B
2190 BY MATHIS HAS BEEN POLLED
BY THE AUTHOR. THE ABSENCE OF A
QUORUM. WE START AS A SUB
COMMITTEE. DO YEAH, WE HAVE SIX
MEMBERS NOW. I GUESS THAT'S
CALL. THANK YOU, SENATOR WICKS.
WE CALL THE ROLL FOR A QUORUM.
RIGHT? BRIAN. HELLO. OK? BRIAN
WE'RE GONNA HIT RIGHT HERE. CAN
YOU HEAR ME? OK? RIGHT? ASSEMBLY
MEMBERS. BRIAN HERE, FLORA BAUER
KHAN. FRIEDMAN. HERE, HOOVER.
CHOLERA. MATHIS. MATH IS HERE.
MARY MARY HERE, PELLERIN
PELLERIN. HERE. WIX! WIX. HERE
WE HAVE A QUORUM. THANK YOU,
MADAM SECRETARY. WOULD WOULD
HEAR AS A COURTESY TO OUR FRIEND
IN THE SENATE. UH, M PORTANTINO,
WOULD YOU LIKE TO PRESENT S¼ B
551. THANK YOU, MR CHAIRMAN AND
MEMBERS APPRECIATE THE
OPPORTUNITY AND APPRECIATE THE
FACT THAT YOU'RE HEARING THIS,
UH, IMPORTANT TIME. SENSITIVE
MATTER. UM, I'D LIKE TO BEGIN BY
ACCEPTING THE AMENDMENTS
OUTLINED IN THE COMMITTEE
ANALYSIS AND THANK YOUR
COMMITTEE AND YOUR COMMITTEE
STAFF AND MY STAFF FOR WORKING
THAT OUT S¼ B 551 WOULD CLARIFY
APPROVED REPORTING PRACTICES
ACROSS PLASTIC BEVERAGE
MANUFACTURING COMPANIES, PRODUCT
LINES. REGULATIONS OF PLASTIC
MANUFACTURERS HAS BEEN A COMPLEX
ISSUE IN 2016, A B 2530 PASS,
WHICH REQUIRED MANUFACTURERS
REPORT INFORMATION ABOUT THE
AMOUNTS OF VIRGIN PLASTIC AND
POST CONSUMER RECYCLED PLASTIC
IN THEIR BOTTLES SOLD DURING THE
PREVIOUS CALENDAR YEAR. AND THE
ACCEPTED PRACTICE WAS REPORTING
ACROSS AT A COMPANY'S ENTIRE
BEVERAGE PORTFOLIO. THE LAT
LATER PASSAGE OF A B 793 IN 2020
CREATED THE REQUIREMENT TO
INCLUDE POST CONSUMER RECYCLED
MATERIAL IN SINGLE SINGLE
SERVING PLASTIC BOTTLES
CURRENTLY 15% BUT WILL RISE TO
50% BY 2030 WHEN REGULATIONS
WERE DRAFTED, IMPLEMENTING A B
793 CAL RECYCLE TOOK A VERY
NARROW INTERPRETATION OF THE
TERM BEVERAGE MANUFACTURER. S¼ P
551 WOULD ADDRESS THIS ISSUE BY
AUTHORIZING SPECIFIC BEVERAGE
MANUFACTURERS TO COMPLY WITH
POST CONSUMER RECYCLED PLASTIC
CONTENT REQUIREMENTS ACROSS
THEIR ENTIRE PORTFOLIO OF
PRODUCTS, NOT A SINGLE PRODUCT
LINE OR PRODUCTION OF A SINGLE
BOTTLE PLANT, RETURNING IT TO
THE WAY COMPANIES REPORTED PRIOR
TO THE REGULATIONS IMPLEMENTED
IN 790 THREE COMPLIANCE WOULD BE
ACHIEVED BY SUBMITTING A
CONSOLIDATED REPORT WITH
AGGREGATED INFORMATION, ALLOWING
ONE COMPREHENSIVE REPORT BY
BEVERAGE BOTTLERS UNDER COMMON
OWNERSHIP OR MARKETING
AGREEMENTS. THE BILL HAS SUPPORT
FROM A WIDE RANGE OF ENTITIES,
INCLUDING THE AMERICAN BEVERAGE
ASSOCIATION, THE CALIFORNIANS
AGAINST WASTE, AND WITH ME
TODAY, DENNIS ALBAN ON BEHALF OF
THE AMERICAN BEVERAGE
ASSOCIATION IS TO SPEAK ON THE
BILL. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. DENNIS ALBAN ON
BEHALF OF THE AMERICAN BEVERAGE
ASSOCIATION, THE AUTHOR DID AN
OUTSTANDING JOB EXPLAINING IT
FOR SO FOR BREVITY, I'LL BE VERY
, UH, CONCISE. TWO BILLS WERE
PASSED, ONE HAD REPORTING IN IT,
AND THAT'S AND EVERYBODY WOULD
REPORT ACROSS THEIR PORTFOLIOS.
AND WHEN WE SAY THAT, WE MEAN
YOU DID IF YOU HAD WATER AND
CARBONATED BEVERAGES AND JUICES,
THEN YOU WOULD AVERAGE THAT OUT
AND REPORT AND COMPLY THAT WAY
WHEN WE DID THE MANDATORY
MINIMUM CONTENT BILL, THEY UH,
WHEN, WHEN CYCLE INTERPRETED
THAT THEY TOOK A VERY NARROW
INTERPRETATION AND SAID NÓ, EACH
LINE NEEDS TO BE REPORTED ON AND
SO THIS IS JUST IMPLEMENTING
THAT AGREEMENT. UH, FROM 790
THREE, AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR
SUPPORT TODAY, AND I WANTED TO
THANK THE CHAIR AND THE STAFF
FOR WORKING CLOSELY ON THIS AND
GIVING US A AAA REVIEW EARLY
MARK MURRAY WITH THE
ENVIRONMENTAL GROUP.
CALIFORNIA'S GUEST WAS JUST
AFFIRMING THAT THIS WAS THE
ORIGINAL INTENT. UM IS AS THIS
IS CLARIFYING, AND WE'RE IN
SUPPORT OF THE MEASURE. THIS IS
THE ABSOLUTELY. UH, ARE THERE
ANY WITNESSES IN THE ROOM
WITNESSES IN THE ROOM WHO WOULD
LIKE TO VOICE THEIR SUPPORT OF
THE MEASURE? I THINK. GOOD
AFTERNOON, MR CHAIR CHRIS
MCKELLEY ON BEHALF OF NIAGARA
BOTTLING. ALSO IN SUPPORT. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU, CHRIS. CHAIR
MEMBERS DEAN TALLEY WITH THE
CALIFORNIA MANUFACTURERS AND
TECHNOLOGY ASSOCIATION. STRONG
SUPPORT. THANK YOU, DEAN.
I ARE THERE ANY FOLKS IN THE
ROOM WHO WOULD LIKE TO REGISTER
THEIR OPPOSITION TO THIS
MEASURE? SEEING NONE OTHER
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE ANY
QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FOR THE
AUTHOR. SEEING NONE. WE HAVE
EMOTION BY MR FLORA. A SECOND BY
MR BY MR MATHIS, UM, SENATOR, I
JUST WANNA CONFIRM YOU ARE
ACCEPTING THE AMENDS. YES, SIR.
THANK YOU. UH, THIS BILL ENJOYS
A DUE PASS. MADAM SECRETARY, CAN
WE CALL THE ROLL? THE MOTION IS
TO PASS AS AMENDED TO
APPROPRIATIONS. BRIAN BRIAN I,
FLORA FLORA I. BAUER KHAN.
FRIEDMAN. OH, BAR AND I,
FRIEDMAN I. HOOVER CHOLERA.
MATHIS. MATH IS A MARUCCI
MARTUCCI. I PELLERIN PELLERIN. I
WIX WIX. I WOULD WOULD I THANK
YOU. FIRST NINE VOTES. WE'LL
LEAVE IT OPEN. REMOVE THE
CONSENT CALENDAR. SECOND MOTION
OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR. MR WOOD
SECONDED BY MS WICKS AND
SECRETARY CAN WE CALL THE ROLL?
CONSENT ITEMS OR ITEM THREE A B.
1881 DAVIES. ITEM FIVE A B 1920
THREE DAVIES ITEM SIX. A B 1969
HEART ITEM 12 A B 20 THREE 11
BENNETT ITEM 13 A B 2344
PETRIE-NORRIS ITEM 14 A B 2393
DIXON AND ITEM 16 A B 2511
BERMAN. RIGHT UH, BRIAN, I FLORA
FLORA, I BAR HAND BARACK HAND. I
FRIEDMAN FRIEDMAN. I HOOVER
CHOLERA. MATHIS MATHIS AERI
MITSUCHI A. PELLERIN PELLERIN. I
WIX WIX. I WOULD WOULD I NINE
VOTES. WE LEAVE THAT OPEN, MISS
DAVIES. IT LOOKS LIKE WE WE'VE
GOT A THING GOING TODAY. WOULD
YOU LIKE TO PRESENT 1922? MOVE,
BILL. WHENEVER YOU'RE READY. I
SECOND THAT I GOOD AFTERNOON. I
WANNA SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR,
UM UH, VOTING ON THE CONSENT
ITEM AS WELL. AND UM, I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN I VOTE.
WOW. YEAH YOU'VE GOT A SUCCINCT
TODAY. NÓ ABSOLUTELY. NOW. I
THOUGHT WE COULD HAVE PUT THIS
ON CONSENT, TOO. UH IS ARE THERE
ANY FOLKS IN THE ROOM WHO WOULD
LIKE TO REGISTER THEIR SUPPORT
FOR THIS MEASURE? ANYONE WHO
WOULD LIKE TO REGISTER THEIR
OPPOSITION TO THIS MEASURE. IN
SUPPORT. UH, WILL BRIER FOR THE
LOS ANGELES AND THE SAN FERNANDO
VALLEY CHAPTERS OF CLIMATE
REALITY PROJECT. THANK YOU SO
MUCH. ANY MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE QUESTION COMMENTS
CONCERNS FOR THE AUTHOR. ALL
RIGHT. JUST SO FOLKS UNDERSTAND.
THIS REQUIRES THE DIRECTOR OF
THE CALIFORNIA CONSERVATION
CORPS TO ESTABLISH A GREEN COLOR
CERTIFICATION PROGRAM. IT'S A
GOOD BILL AND ENJOYS A DUE PASS
TODAY. UH, MADAM SECRETARY, CAN
WE CALL THE ROLL? THE MOTION IS
TO PASS THROUGH APPROPRIATIONS.
BRIAN BRIAN, I FLORA FLORA I BAR
BAR KHAN. I FRIEDMAN FRIEDMAN. I
HOOVER CHOLERA. MATHIS MATHIS.
AER TUCCI MERITS AERIN PELLERIN,
I WIX. HØI WIGS. I WOULD WOULD I
THAT HAS NINE WILL LEAVE THE
ROLL OPEN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. ASSEMBLY MEMBER
REYES. IS NOT HERE. THAT'S
RIGHT, MR GRAYSON, COME ON DOWN.
MOVE, BILL.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MR CHAIR AND
MEMBERS. I AM GRATEFUL FOR THE
COMMITTEE'S WORK ON THIS BILL
AND WILL BE ACCEPTING THE
COMMITTEE'S PROPOSED AMENDMENTS
AS THEY ARE OUTLINED IN THE
ANALYSIS. IT 2091 WILL HELP
EXPEDITE PUBLIC ACCESS TO OPEN
SPACE ACROSS CALIFORNIA. IT WILL
EXEMPT THE OPENING OF EXISTING,
UH, THE OPENING OF EXISTING
ROADS AND TRAILS FOR SPECIFIED
NON MOTORIZED RECREATIONAL USES
TO THE PUBLIC ON AN OPEN SPACE
PROPERTIES OWNED AND OPERATED BY
AN AGENCY SO THIS BILL WILL ALSO
HAVE NÓ IMPACT ON EXISTING LAND
COVENANTS THAT WOULD APPLY, SUCH
AS GRANT AGREEMENTS,
CONSERVATION EASEMENTS AND PLANS
AND LONG TERM MANAGEMENT PLANS
AND THE PARKS DISTRICTS WOULD
STILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR
ENFORCING MANAGEMENT POLICIES
THAT PROTECT SPECIES AND HABITAT
WITH ME TODAY IS JENNIFER
GHOUSE, REPRESENTING EAST BAY
REGIONAL PARKS THROUGH THE
CHAIR. YOU MOVE AGAIN. THANK
YOU, MR CHAIR AND MEMBERS. I'M
JENNIFER GHOUSE WITH ENVIRONMENT
AND ENERGY CONSULTING
REPRESENTING EAST BAY REGIONAL
PARK DISTRICT. THE SPONSORS OF
THIS BILL AS THE BILL WAS JUST
AMENDED HERE IN COMMITTEE. IT'S
NARROWLY FOCUSED TO RESOLVE AN
ISSUE THAT ARISES WHEN PUBLIC
PARKS AGENCIES ACQUIRE LAND AND
WISH TO OPEN IT TO THE PUBLIC
FOR LOW IMPACT RECREATIONAL USE
PRIOR TO ANY DEVELOPMENT OR
IMPROVEMENTS. BILL NARROWLY
FOCUSES ON PUBLIC ACCESS TO
EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE LIKE
TRAILS, PATHWAYS, ROADS AND
OTHER DISTURBED AREAS. ON
MANAGED LAND ACQUIRED FOR PARKS
PURPOSES. THE SEQUEL EXEMPTION
WILL NOT AFFECT EXISTING
WILDLAND MANAGEMENT POLICIES,
INCLUDING SPECIAL PROTECTION
ORDINANCES. THOSE WILL CONTINUE
TO SAFEGUARD THE OFF TRAIL AND
OFF ROAD AREAS. FURTHER ALL
CONDITIONS OF LAND ACQUISITION
WILL REMAIN UNCHANGED BY THIS
LEGISLATION. PREVENTING NEGATIVE
IMPACTS ON ECOSYSTEMS IS A
PRIORITY FOR THE EAST BAY
REGIONAL PARK DISTRICT THROUGH
STANDARD MANAGEMENT PRACTICES
AND PROTECTIVE ORDINANCES. THE
SPILL STRIKES AN IMPORTANT
BALANCE BETWEEN ALLOWING PUBLIC
ACCESS AND PROTECTING THE
ENVIRONMENT. WITH THAT, ON
BEHALF OF THE DISTRICT, I
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR I
VOTE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ARE
THERE ANY PERSONS IN THE ROOM
WHO WOULD LIKE TO REGISTER THEIR
SUPPORT FOR THIS BILL? HØI CHAIR
AND MEMBERS NICHOLAS MAZZOTTI ON
BEHALF OF MID PENINSULA REGIONAL
OPEN SPACE DISTRICT AND STRONG
SUPPORT OF THE BILL. THANK YOU.
ALYSSA SO HØI ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF
RECREATION AND PARK DISTRICTS,
PLEASE TO SUPPORT ABSOLUTELY. NÓ
SEE NÓ PRIMARY WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION. IS THERE ANYBODY IN
THIS HEARING ROOM WHO WOULD LIKE
TO REGISTER THEIR OPPOSITION TO
THIS BILL? ANY QUESTIONS,
COMMENTS CONCERNS FROM COMMITTEE
MEMBERS. F. THANK YOU FOR
BRINGING THIS BILL FORWARD IN MY
DISTRICT. I HAVE A LOT OF AVID
MOUNTAIN BIKE RIDERS, AND THEY
ARE GONNA LOVE THIS BILL. SO
WITH THAT, I THINK I HEARD A
MOTION AND I'LL SECOND IT. THANK
YOU. MOTION BY MR FLORA 2ND AND
3RD BY PELLERIN AND KHAN. THAT'S
ALL RIGHT. UH CONGRATULATIONS,
MR GRAY. AND THIS IS THE FIRST
S¼ QL EXEMPTION OF THIS YEAR
COMING OUT OF THIS COMMITTEE. IT
ENJOYS A DO PASS RECOMMENDATION.
MADAM SECRETARY, CAN WE CALL THE
ROLL? THE MOTION IS TO PASS AS
AMENDED TO WATER PARKS AND
WILDLIFE. BRIAN BRIAN I FLORA
FLORA, I BAR HØI BARAK. I
FRIEDMAN FRIEDMAN I HOOVER
CHOLERA. MATHIS. MARY. PELLERIN.
PELLERIN. I WIX W, WOULD I? OK?
TAKE THE WE'LL LEAVE THE ROLE
OPEN. THANK YOU, MR GRAYSON.
MISS BERNER. 1992 1992. IT'S A
GREAT YEAR. I CRAZY THINGS IN
1992. I WAS IN BERKELEY HèA.
BEFORE YOU GO ON. TO I'M NOT
GONNA SAY WHAT I WAS DOING. WE
MIGHT HAVE TO GET A WE MIGHT
HAVE TO GET THIS COMMITTEE BACK
UNDER CONTROL HERE IN A MINUTE.
YOU MAY BEGIN. GOOD AFTERNOON.
UH, MR CHAIR OF MEMBERS A B
1992. MOST OF YOU HAVE SEEN THIS
BEFORE. THIS IS MY BLUE CARBON
BILL. THIS IS BASED ON A REALLY
GOOD PROJECT IN MY DISTRICT. IT
JUST HAPPENED TO GO RIGHT AND WE
SHOULD MAKE IT THE BEST PRACTICE
IN THE STATE WHEN THEY RENOVATED
THE WHEN THEY, UM AS A
MITIGATION MEASURE FOR THE I
FIVE WIDENING IN MY DISTRICT,
THEY COMPLETELY RESTORE THE
SANTA LEO LAGOON, AND IT IS
GORGEOUS THAT THEY PUT A BIKE
PATH ON THE FREEWAY. WE HAVE
TRAILS WE HAVE MORE HABITAT,
MORE BIODIVERSITY. IT'S
FANTASTIC, BUT IT WAS ONLY
BECAUSE THEY HAPPEN TO DO IT
RIGHT BECAUSE THE NATURE
CONSERVANCY WHO WAS MANAGING THE
PROJECT HAPPENED TO DO IT,
RIGHT. WE WANNA MAKE THIS BEST
PRACTICE IN THE STATE, SO A 1992
WOULD AUTHORIZE THE CALIFORNIA
COAST COMMISSION TO ADD BLUE
CARBON DEMONSTRATION PROJECTS TO
THE FACTORS IT CONSIDERS FOR
POTENTIAL MITIGATION WHEN
APPROVING COASTAL DEVELOPMENT
PERMITS. WHERE FEASIBLE, UM I
KNOW THERE'S OPPOSITION AND WE
WORK WITH THE OPPOSITION WE
REMOVED IN THIS COMMITTEE LAST
YEAR. THE CONTENTIOUS POINT IN
THE BELL, SO THERE'S NÓ WAY YOU
CAN BUILD AT ALL IN LAGOONS AND
THE OCEAN OR IN WETLANDS. THIS
IS NOT WATER WORLD SO THE
OPPOSITION DOESN'T HAVE A REAL
BASIS FOR OPPOSING THIS BILL.
WE'LL MEET WITH THEM AGAIN LIKE
WE ALWAYS DO. BUT THE BILL AT
THIS POINT YOU CAN'T BUILD IN
THE OCEAN SO WE DON'T REALLY
UNDERSTAND THEIR OPPOSITION. UM
SO JUST TO LET YOU KNOW BLUE
CARBON. UM ECOSYSTEMS CAN
SEQUESTER FIVE TIMES MORE CARBON
THAN TROPICAL RAINFORESTS,
FORESTS AND STORE 50 TIMES MORE
IN THEIR SURROUNDING SOIL. SADLY
WE'VE LOST ABOUT OVER 90% OF OUR
HISTORICAL WETLANDS AND THE
ASSOCIATED BENEFITS THEY PROVIDE
, SUCH AS PROTECTING COASTAL
COMMUNITIES FROM HARMFUL AND
HARMFUL IMPACTS OF CLIMATE
CHANGE, SUCH AS SEA LEVEL RISE
AND FLOODING. THIS BILL IS THE
RESULT OF A TRANSPORTATION
PROJECT ALREADY SAID THAT, UM
AND, UM THIS INNOVATIVE APPROACH
MITIGATING THE IMPACTS TO
NATURAL RESOURCES CAN BE
REPLICATED AND BUILT AND TO
RESTORE BLUE CARBON SINKS. YOU
GUYS, THIS IS WHAT WE NEED. WE
NEED TO DO THE NATURAL CARBON
SEQUESTRATION AS WELL AS ALL
FORMS OF GETTING GREENHOUSE
GASSES OUT OF THE AIR, SO I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR I VOTE
AND WITH ME IS CARLOS CALLADO
WITH WILD COAST IN SAN DIEGO,
THE SPONSORS OF OUR BILL. DID I
SAY YOUR NAME CORRECTLY? ALMOST
YEAH, OK, YOU JUST BE. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. UH, GOOD AFTERNOON
MEMBERS. MY NAME IS CARLOS
GALLO. I'M THE BLUE CARBON
CONSERVATION COORDINATOR AT WILD
COAST. I AM HERE TODAY TO
PROVIDE STRONG SUPPORT FOR A B
1992, WHICH WILL PROTECT AND
CONSERVE BLUE CARBON ECOSYSTEMS
IN THE COASTAL PERMITTING
PROCESS. CALIFORNIA IS FACING
ONE OF OUR BIGGEST CHALLENGES
YET CLIMATE CHANGE. LUCKILY
CALIFORNIA IS A GLOBAL
BIODIVERSITY HOTSPOT, WITH MANY
ECOSYSTEMS NATURALLY ABLE TO
SEQUESTER AND STORE CARBON OF
SPECIAL NOTE OUR OUR BLUE CARBON
ECOSYSTEMS. BLUE CARBON IS
CARBON REMOVED FROM THE
ATMOSPHERE BY PLANTS IN COASTAL
AND MARINE ECOSYSTEMS, SUCH AS
MANGROVE FORESTS, AS WELL AS THE
SALT MARSH AND SEA GRASSES WE
HAVE ALONG OUR COAST HERE IN
CALIFORNIA. THROUGH PHOTOS
INSISTS PLANTS PULL CARBON OUT
OF THE ATMOSPHERE. SOME OF THAT
CARBON IS STORED IN THE PLANTS,
WOODY TISSUE AND IN BLUE CARBON
ECOSYSTEMS. MUCH OF IT IS BURIED
IN THE SOILS WHERE IT CAN REMAIN
FOR POTENTIALLY HUNDREDS OF
THOUSANDS OF YEARS IF LEFT
UNDISTURBED. SO THAT PREVENTS
THE CARBON FROM BEING RELEASED
BACK INTO THE ATMOSPHERE, AND IN
THIS WET ENVIRONMENT, IT IS NOT
ABLE TO DECOMPOSE AND RELEASE
THAT CARBON BACK INTO THE AIR.
OUR PRELIMINARY DATA FROM
RESEARCH WILD COAST IS
CONDUCTING ALONGSIDE SCRIPPS
INSTITUTION OF OCEANOGRAPHY. UH,
IT SUGGESTS THAT OUR COASTAL
BLUE CARBON ECOSYSTEMS ARE
STORING ABOUT 4.8 TIMES AS MUCH
CARBON AS OUR LOCAL GRASSLANDS.
UNFORTUNATELY IT IS ESTIMATED
THAT ONLY 10% OF CALIFORNIA'S
HISTORIC WETLANDS REMAIN. SO NOW
IS THE TIME TO TAKE ACTION. A
1992 WILL ENSURE THAT BLUE
CARBON ECOSYSTEMS ARE PRESERVED
BY ALLOWING THE CALIFORNIA
COASTAL COMMISSION TO REQUIRE
DEMONSTRATION PROJECTS TO OBTAIN
CERTAIN PERMITS AND WILL ADD TO
THE RAPIDLY GROWING RESEARCH IN
THE FIELD OF BLUE CARBON BY
REQUIRING MONITORING OF
PERMITTED PROJECTS, ADDING
REFERENCES TO BLUE CARBON
PROJECTS AND GREENHOUSE GAS
EMISSIONS REDUCTIONS IN THE
COASTAL ACT IS CONSISTENT WITH
THE LEGISLATORS. PRIORITY TO
ENSURE ALL STATE AGENCIES ARE
PROACTIVE PARTNERS IN THE FIGHT
AGAINST CLIMATE CHANGE AND
CONTINUES THE LEGISLATURE'S
IMPORTANT EFFORT TO MODERNIZE
THE COASTAL ACT THROUGH BILLS
THAT HAVE ADDED SEA LEVEL RISE
CIVIL RIGHTS AND ENVIRONMENTAL
JUSTICE TO THE STATUTE. WE
ENCOURAGE YOU TO SUPPORT A B
1992 BECAUSE IT ENSURES COASTAL
LIGHT WINDS WILL CONTINUE TO BE
NATURAL CLIMATE SOLUTIONS FOR
YEARS TO COME. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU, CARLOS. ARE THERE ANY FOLKS
IN THE HEARING ROOM WHO WOULD
LIKE TO REGISTER THEIR SUPPORT
OF THIS BILL? YES, THANK YOU.
CHAIR AND MEMBERS ELISE, FOND ON
BEHALF OF CLIMATE CENTER IN
SUPPORT. WILL ER ON BEHALF OF
CLIMATE REALITY PROJECT CHAPTERS
IN LOS ANGELES AND SAN FERNANDO
VALLEY. SUPPORT. THANK YOU WILL
MELISSA ROMERO, CALIFORNIA
ENVIRONMENTAL VOTERS IN SUPPORT.
THANK YOU, MELISSA. GOOD
AFTERNOON, MR CHAIR SEAN DRAKE
WITH THE CALIFORNIA COASTAL
COMMISSION. THE COASTAL
COMMISSION DOESN'T HAVE AN
OFFICIAL POSITION ON THIS
MEASURE. BUT I'M AVAILABLE FOR
ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. AND
THEY ARE THERE ANY FOLKS IN
OPPOSITION? UH, WHO WOULD LIKE
TO REGISTER THEIR OPPOSITION TO
THIS BILL TODAY? GOOD AFTERNOON
CHAIR MEMBERS, AUDREY RAJK ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
BUILDING INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION
AND RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION. BUT
WE HAVE A MEETING COMING UP AS
THE ASSEMBLY MEMBER MENTIONED,
SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO
DISCUSSING WITH HER AND OUR
OTHER COALITION PARTNERS. UM AND
WE REALLY ARE THANKFUL THAT SHE
WANTS TO WORK WITH US. AND WE
JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THERE ARE
APPROPRIATE GUARDRAILS TO ENSURE
THAT INVESTMENTS IN BLUE CARBON
ARE NOT USED AS A NÓ GROWTH
TOOL. SO THANK YOU. DEBORAH
CARLTON WITH A CALIFORNIA
APARTMENT ASSOCIATION NOT TO
REPEAT EVERYTHING THAT, UH, THE
PREVIOUS OPPONENT INDICATED WE
WOULD LOVE TO CONTINUE OUR WORK
WITH YOU. WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR
SOME GUARDRAILS ON WHAT IT MEANS
TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE COST. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU SO MUCH
ANY OTHER FOLKS IN THE HEARING
ROOM WHO WOULD LIKE TO REGISTER
THEIR OPPOSITION? SEEING MEN
WILL TURN IT BACK TO COMMITTEE
MEMBERS. QUESTIONS, COMMENTS
CONCERNS S¼. THEN I KNOW HOW
HARD YOU HAVE BEEN WORKING ON
THIS BILL AND HOW IMPORTANT IT
IS TO YOU. AND I JUST WANNA TAKE
A MOMENT TO APPRECIATE YOUR
LEADERSHIP IN THIS SPACE AND
YOUR WILLINGNESS TO BRING ALL
FOLKS TO THE TABLE. UH, THIS
BILL ENJOYS A DO PASS
RECOMMENDATION. DO WE HAVE A
MOTION? YEAH BAR KHAN MOVED THE
BUILD. WE HAVE A SECOND, MISS
PELLER IN SECONDS. MADAM
SECRETARY, CAN WE CALL THE ROLL?
CAN I CLOSE? YOU MAY CLOSE CLOSE
IT. I JUST WANNA MENTION THE
OPPONENTS ISSUE IS ABOUT THE
NEXUS OF CONTRIBUTING TO THESE
BLUE CARBON DEMONSTRATION
PROJECTS. THERE'S A NOLAN DOLAN
DECISION THAT SAYS THERE HAS TO
BE A NEXUS. SO IT'S ALREADY IN
FEDERAL LAW THAT THERE HAS TO BE
A NEXUS, SO THAT'S WHERE WE'VE
BEEN GOING AROUND AND AROUND AND
AROUND, UM, ABOUT AND SO WE'LL
CONTINUE TO SEE IF THERE'S A
CREATIVE SOLUTION. WE CAN ARRIVE
AT THIS YEAR. UM BUT REALLY
APPRECIATE YOUR I VOTE. WE ARE
HOPING THAT YOU LAND THIS PLANE
AND WE WANNA HELP YOU. MADAM
SECRETARY, CAN WE CALL THE ROLL?
THE MOTION IS TO PASS TO
APPROPRIATIONS. BRIAN BRIAN, I
FLORA, NOT VOTING BAR KHAN BAR
KHAN. I FRIEDMAN FRIEDMAN I
HOOVER HOOVER, NOT VOTING
CHOLERA. MATHIS. SUU KYI.
PELLERIN. PELLERIN. I WIX WOOD,
WOULD I? THANK HAS FIVE WILL
LEAVE THE ALL OPEN. MR BENNETT,
COME ON DOWN. AND THIS IS FOR
2648. THAT'S RIGHT, SIR.
REALLY?
YES, SIR. WHENEVER YOU'RE READY
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, UH, MR
CHAIR AND MEMBERS. FIRST OF ALL,
I'D LIKE TO THANK STAFF FOR ALL
THE WORK THAT THEY'VE DONE ON
THIS BILL, AND WE CERTAINLY
ACCEPT THE AMENDMENTS A B, 2600
AND 48 PHASES OUT THE PURCHASE
AND SALE OF SINGLE USE PLASTIC
BOTTLES IN A STATE CALIFORNIA
STATE FACILITIES WITH STATE
AGENCIES, ETCETERA. THERE ARE
APPROPRIATE EXEMPTIONS FOR
HEALTH SAFETY EMERGENCIES, AND
WE'RE CERTAINLY WILLING TO
CLARIFY IN PARTICULAR FOR
PRISONS AND THE ISSUES THAT HAVE
BEEN RAISED ABOUT PRISON. UH,
THAT WERE WILLING TO ADD
SPECIFICALLY CALL THAT OUT. BUT
WE THINK THE CURRENT EXEMPTIONS
ACTUALLY TAKE THAT INTO
CONSIDERATION. SINGLE USE
PLASTIC BOTTLES HAVE SIGNIFICANT
ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS. I THINK
IT'S DOESN'T BEHOOVE US TO SPEND
A LOT OF TIME FOR EACH TRYING TO
IDENTIFY ALL OF THOSE IMPACTS. I
THINK MOST SIGNIFICANTLY AS
RECENTLY COLOMBIA HAD A RECENT
STUDY THAT IDENTIFIED HUNDREDS
OF THOUSANDS OF NANOPLASTICS ARE
IN A SINGLE BOTTLE OF WATER AND
THOSE NANOPLASTICS. ARE SO SMALL
THAT THEY CAN BE TRANSMITTED IN
THROUGH THROUGH THE CELLS. AND
WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT SINGLE USE
PLASTIC BOTTLES, UH, AND THEIR
IMPACT ON THE HEALTH OF YOUNG
KIDS, ET CETERA AS THEY'RE
FORMING. I THINK THAT'S ONE OF
THE REASONS WHY THE SYSTEM AND
THE CAL STATE SYSTEM AND EVEN
THE Dð G S¼ DEPARTMENT OF
GENERAL SERVICES ALL HAVE COME
UP WITH POLICIES TO BÀN OR PHASE
OUT SINGLE USE PLASTIC UH,
BOTTLES AND THAT'S THE SAME
THING THAT WE SHOULD DO. I'M
JUST GONNA READ TO YOU. THIS IS
FROM THE U èC SYSTEM ADOPTED
JULY OF 2023 ABOUT SEVEN MONTHS
AGO, AND THEY WANT TO PHASE OUT
THE PROCUREMENT, SALE AND
DISTRIBUTION OF SINGLE USE
PLASTIC BEVERAGE BOTTLES AND THE
NON PLASTIC ALTERNATIVES WILL BE
LOCALLY RECYCLABLE. UM SO WE'RE
SIMPLY THIS IS A MODEST BILL TO
TRY TO SAVE THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA'S AGENCIES OUGHT TO
JOIN WITH THE SYSTEM AND THE CAL
STATE SYSTEM. UM IN TAKING THIS
FORWARD, LEANING AND PRO
EDUCATIONAL STEP FOR OUR MEMBERS
NOW. CURRENTLY WE DON'T HAVE A
SUSTAINABLE SYSTEM WHEN IT COMES
TO PLASTIC BOTTLE RECYCLING. UH
AND, UH TO THINK THAT THE
SOLUTION IS TO JUST TRY TO
RECYCLE OUR WAY OUT OF THIS IS
WRONG. THE WAY YOU DEAL WITH
THIS ISSUE, LIKE SO MANY OF OUR
ISSUES AS FIRST YOU TRY TO
REDUCE. UM THE I MEAN FIRST, YOU
FIRST YOU YOU TRY TO REDUCE,
THEN REUSE AND THEN RECYCLE AND
WE ARE STUCK IN THIS RECYCLED
BOAT. THE RECYCLE CONTENT OF
PLASTIC BOTTLES HAD TO BE FORCED
ONTO THE INDUSTRY. WE HAD TO
TELL THEM THAT THEY HAD TO GO TO
25. AND NOW THEY HAVE TO GO TO
50% BY 2030. BUT WE HAD TO PUSH
THAT WE HAVE TO SUBSIDIZE THEM
SO THE RECYCLABLE MARKET IS NOT
SUSTAINABLE BECAUSE WE HAVE TO,
ACTUALLY, UM, SUBSIDIZE THAT
MARKET AND EVEN AT 50% IN 2030,
THAT MEANS 50% OF THE PLASTIC
WILL BE VIRGIN PLASTIC COMING
INTO THE SYSTEM. NOW HOW BIG OF
A PROBLEM IS THAT? I THINK THIS
IS A IT IS CONCERNING STATISTIC.
CALIFORNIA USES 12 BILLION.
THAT'S 12 BILLION SINGLE USE
PLASTIC BOTTLES A YEAR. NOW UH,
THAT MEANS WE'LL BE PRODUCING AT
LEAST 6 BILLION PLASTIC BOTTLES
ESSENTIALLY WITH VIRGIN PLASTIC
EACH YEAR THAT'S NEW PLASTIC
COMING INTO THE SYSTEM. AND
THAT'S IF WE HAVE A PERFECT
RECORD FOR RECYCLING THE 50%
WHICH WE ALL KNOW WE DON'T HAVE,
UM, WE DON'T HAVE GOOD RECYCLING
DATA FROM THE INDUSTRY. UH, IT
DOESN'T SHOW US HOW THE BILLIONS
OF BOTTLES THAT ARE PUT INTO THE
BLUE RECYCLE CONTAINER ARE
ACTUALLY BEING HANDLED. WE DO
KNOW THAT, UM SIGNIFICANT
PERCENTAGE ARE BEING PUT INTO
THE BLUE BARRELS. BUT WE KNOW
MANY OF THOSE LOADS ARE
CONTAMINATED. UM SO THEY'RE NOT
CLEAN. THEY'RE NOT CLEAN ENOUGH
TO RECYCLE. WAY THE PLASTIC
KEEPS BREAKING DOWN, AND IT
REQUIRES EVER MORE VIRGIN
PLASTIC. YOU JUST DON'T RECYCLE
THESE SINGLE USE PLASTIC BOTTLES
OVER AND OVER AGAIN, LIKE A CAN
OF ALUMINUM AND GLASS, AND WE
NEED TO WORK TO FIND BETTER WAYS
. AND THERE IS NOT A SIMPLE,
EASY SOLUTION OUT THERE YET. WE
NEED TO WORK TO FIND BETTER WAYS
TO ADDRESS THIS PLASTIC BOTTLE
PROBLEM. AND SO CALIFORNIA
SHOULD JOIN THE SYSTEM AND èC
S¼ U IN DEMONSTRATING THAT WE
SHOULD ALL WORK TO KEEP TRYING
TO IMPROVE OUR HABITS AND AGAIN
BEING MORE SUSTAINABLE MEANS
REDUCE, REUSE FIRST AND THEN TRY
TO MOVE TO RECYCLE. I'D LIKE TO
ASK YOU. WE ALL DO A FAIR AMOUNT
OF TRAVELING. AT LEAST WE
ASSEMBLY MEMBERS DO WHEN YOU GO
TO THE AIRPORT TODAY. IT'S HARD
TO GET A DRINK OF WATER FROM THE
FOUNTAIN BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S
LINED UP WITH THEIR REUSABLE
BOTTLES, AND THAT'S THE KIND OF
HABIT WE HAVE TO GET INTO. I'D
LIKE TO JUST OFFER ONE OTHER
THING HERE BEFORE I CLOSE AND
THAT IS I GREW UP IN THE 19
FIFTIES, IF YOU WOULD HAVE SAID
IN THE 19 FIFTIES, YOU COULD
MAKE A FORTUNE, PUT WATER INTO A
PLASTIC BOTTLE AND SELLING IT
PEOPLE. PEOPLE WOULD HAVE
LAUGHED YOU OUT OF THE ROOM,
RIGHT WATER THAT YOU GOT OUT OF
THE TAP, RIGHT. WE CAN LIVE.
PLASTIC WATER BOTTLES. IT CAN BE
DONE. MÐI HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS
OF AMERICANS DID IT. IT HAS
BECOME A CONVENIENCE AND THE
QUESTION IS, HOW MUCH SHOULD THE
ENVIRONMENT PAY FOR THAT
CONVENIENCE? SO UM, YOU KNOW, WE
SAW WITH GROCERY STORES AND OUR
EFFORT WITH PLASTIC BAGS THAT IS
JUST TOO EASY FOR THE PLASTIC
INDUSTRY TO RAMP UP PLASTIC
PRODUCTION. THAT IS, AS IT IS TO
CUT IT. SO I INVITE YOU TO JOIN
ME IN TRYING TO GET CALIFORNIA.
UH, TO TAKE THIS MODEST STEP. SO
THAT OUR CALIFORNIA AGENCIES
DEMONSTRATE LEADERSHIP I COULD
SEE HAVING REFILLING STATIONS
AND WE COULD HAVE, UH, PLAQUES
THERE THAT REMIND PEOPLE WHY
WE'RE DOING THIS. WHY WE'RE
TAKING THIS. UH AND I'M REALLY
HAPPY TO HAVE TODAY. UH, RENA,
RENA COHEN, UH, KG STUDENTS. UH,
HERE AND LAURA DHAM, UH,
ENVIRONMENTAL COALITION AS
WITNESSES FOR THIS. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. I KNOW I WENT A
LITTLE LONGER, BUT I'M A LITTLE
IT'S IMPORTANT ISSUE. I THINK
FOR ALL OF US. THANK YOU, MISS
MISS. B SAVED YOU THAT TIME. SO
THANK YOU. UH, WE'LL DO TWO
MINUTES. UH, PER WITNESS IN
WHATEVER ORDER YOU'D LIKE. SURE
I CAN GO. UM HELLO THERE. THANK
YOU SO MUCH CHAIR, BRIAN. AND UM
MY NAME IS LAURA DEHN. I'M THE
STATE DIRECTOR FOR ENVIRONMENT.
CALIFORNIA STATEWIDE
ENVIRONMENTAL GROUP THAT WORKS
FOR CLEAN AIR AND CLEAN WATER
AND PROTECTING OUR OPEN SPACES
AND A LIVABLE PLANET AND I'M
VERY PLEASED TO BE HERE WITH
ASSEMBLY MEMBER BENNETT AND, UH,
RINA FROM, UH Kò PER STUDENTS
AND STRONG SUPPORT OF THIS BILL
AND A 2548 SORRY, 2648, WHICH,
UM, I THINK IS A REALLY
IMPORTANT STEP FOR CALIFORNIA
STATE GOVERNMENT TO REALLY LEAD
THE WAY IN TACKLING THE SCOURGE
OF PLASTIC POLLUTION. UM, THIS
BILL IS MODELED ON POLICY THAT
ALREADY IS LAW IN MASSACHUSETTS
AS WELL AS UM IT MATCHES THE
POLICIES THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN
ADOPTED AT SEVERAL OTHER
INSTITUTIONS IN CALIFORNIA, LIKE
THE U, èC S¼ AND THE èC S¼, U
S¼, AND, UM IT'S REALLY CRUCIAL
THAT WE TAKE THIS STEP, UM, IN
PART BECAUSE OF THE SHEER VOLUME
OF PLASTIC THAT WE ARE
CONTINUING TO PRODUCE EVERY
SINGLE YEAR. UM, AND THE REALITY
IS THAT TODAY ONLY 9% OF THE
PLASTIC THAT HAS BEEN PRODUCED
SINCE THE 19 FIFTIES OR AROUND,
THEN HAS EVER BEEN RECYCLED. UM
AND UNLESS WE STOP THE FLOW OF
THE PLASTIC, THIS PROBLEM IS
GOING TO KEEP GROWING. UM, IT'S
ESPECIALLY CONCERNING GIVING THE
PUBLIC HEALTH RISKS WHEN WE ARE
CONSUMING, UM PLASTIC, UM, BUT
ALSO WANTED TO REMIND YOU THAT
IT IS, UM, INCREDIBLY HARMFUL
FOR, UM, THE WILDLIFE AND FOR
ALL LIVING THINGS WHEN WE'RE
PUTTING SO MUCH PLASTIC INTO THE
ENVIRONMENT, SO WE URGE A YES
VOTE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. HØI MY
NAME. MY NAME IS RINA COHAN. AND
I'M A SECOND YEAR STUDENT AT U
èC DAVIS. UM I'M STUDYING AT UC
DAVIS AND I'M WITH CAL PER
STUDENTS. I'M THE CHAPTER CHAIR
FOR CG STUDENTS ON MY CAMPUS. SO
CAL STUDENTS IF YOU GUYS DON'T
KNOW, UM IT'S A STATEWIDE
STUDENT LED AND STUDENT RUN
NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION. WE WORK
TO ENGAGE YOUNG PEOPLE FOR
CHANGE AND WORK TOWARDS GREENER,
HEALTHIER FUTURES. SO AT S¼
REPETITION, OUR GENERATION
DESERVES A FUTURE WITHOUT SO
MUCH PLASTIC POLLUTION AND
PLASTIC BOTTLES. ARE NECESSARY
POLLUTION. PLASTIC BEVERAGE
BOTTLES WERE THE SECOND MOST
COMMON ITEM FOUND DURING
INTERNATIONAL COASTAL CLEANUP
DAY IN 2022 YOUNG PEOPLE
RECOGNIZE THAT SINGLE USE
PLASTICS ARE A SERIOUS ISSUE.
NEARLY EVERY STUDENT I KNOW OWNS
A HYDRO FLASK OR OTHERS REUSABLE
WATER BOTTLE AND IT'S EVEN
BETTER BECAUSE WE CAN
PERSONALIZE THEM, STAY HYDRATED
AND PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT.
IT'S LIKE A REPETITION LESS THAN
30% OF PLASTIC BOTTLES THAT HAVE
EVER BEEN CREATED HAVE BEEN
RECYCLED. MOST OF THEM BECOME
PLASTIC WASTE IN OUR LANDFILLS
AND THE ENVIRONMENT. AND IN OUR
ENVIRONMENT, PLASTIC BREAKS DOWN
INTO REALLY, REALLY SMALL PIECES
THAT CAN END UP IN OUR FOOD,
DRINKING WATER AND EVEN HUMAN
BODIES AND OF THAT, 30 OR SO
THAT'S GETTING RECYCLED. MOST OF
THAT IS ACTUALLY DOWN, CYCLED,
MEANING IT'S MADE INTO A
SOMETHING OF LOWER QUALITY THAT
CAN'T BE RECYCLED. AGAIN
RECYCLING IS ONLY EFFECTIVE IF
IT'S CREATING THAT CLOSED LOOP
SYSTEM, MEANING THAT WE'RE USING
THE SAME MATERIAL OVER AND OVER
AGAIN TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF
RESOURCES THAT WE'RE USING IN
THE FIRST PLACE, TRANSFORMING
PLASTIC INTO A LOWER QUALITY
MATERIAL STILL RESULTS IN PLA
LOOK AT OUR ENVIRONMENT, AND
WHAT WE REALLY NEED TO DO IS
STOP PRODUCING PLASTIC IN THE
FIRST PLACE. PLASTICS ARE MADE
FROM FOSSIL FUELS AND THE
EXTRACTION AND REFINEMENT OF OIL
FOR PLASTICS RELEASES TOXIC
SUBSTANCES INTO THE AIR AND
WATER, INCLUDING KNOWN
CARCINOGENS AND NEUROTOXINS. TO
TRULY MITIGATE THE CLIMATE
CRISIS. WE NEED TO TRANSITION
COMPLETELY AWAY FROM FOSSIL
FUELS AND REDUCING PLASTIC
POLLUTION IS A VERY MANAGEABLE
PLACE TO START. A B 2648 WILL
REDUCE POLLUTION FROM SINGLE USE
PLASTICS BY PROHIBITING STATE
AGENCIES FROM PURCHASING OR
SELLING SINGLE USE PLASTIC
BOTTLES AND ENCOURAGING STATE
BUILDINGS TO INSTALL WATER
BOTTLE FILLING STATIONS. TO
INCREASE THE USE OF REUSABLE
BOTTLES. THIS WILL MAKE THE
STATE GOVERNMENT ALIGNED WITH
OUR STATE SCHOOLS AND LEAD BY
EXAMPLE, WHEN IT COMES TO
TACKLING OUR PLASTIC WASTE
CRISIS, AND THE ENTIRE NATION
WOULD BENEFIT FROM OUR
LEADERSHIP ON THIS ISSUE. WE
THINK ASSEMBLY MEMBER BENNETT
FOR HIS LEADERSHIP AND ENCOURAGE
YOUR I VOTE. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. ARE THERE ANY FOLKS IN THE
ROOM WHO WOULD LIKE TO REGISTER
THEIR SUPPORT FOR THIS BILL?
GOOD AFTERNOON, CHRISTINA S¼
SCARRING AT THE CENTER FOR
BIOLOGICAL DIVERSITY AND STRONG
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. GOOD
AFTERNOON, MR CHAIR AND MEMBERS
JENNIFER FEARING ON BEHALF OF
THE MONTEREY BAY AQUARIUM, OCEAN
CONSERVANCY, OCEANA AND ALSO THE
SURFRIDER FOUNDATION IN STRONG
SUPPORT. GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIR
MEMBERS, NICHOLAS MAZZOTTI ON
BEHALF OF RETHINK WASTE IN
SUPPORT OF THE BILL. THANK YOU.
MELISSA ROMERO, CALIFORNIA
ENVIRONMENTAL VOTERS IN SUPPORT.
SO AGAIN WILL ER FOR THE CLIMATE
REALITY PROJECT CALIFORNIA
COALITION. YES. GOOD AFTERNOON
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. I'M KYLE
FARRAR, WESTERN PROGRAM DIRECTOR
AT F TRACKER ALLIANCE. SPEAKING
IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL, THANKS
FOR ANY WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION
TO THIS THAT DON'T GET UP TOO
FAST. THE PROBLEM. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, DENNIS ALBAN, ON
BEHALF OF THE PLASTIC RECYCLING
CORPORATION OF CALIFORNIA AND
THE AMERICAN BEVERAGE
ASSOCIATION, UM I HAVE TO SAY
THAT WE HAVE BEEN ESPECIALLY THE
PLASTIC. SO INCORPORATION. WE
HAVE A BOTTLE BILL IN CALIFORNIA
. WE'VE BEEN VERY COMMITTED TO
MAKING THAT BOTTLE BILL WORK FOR
MANY, MANY YEARS, AND IN FACT,
WE HAVE A 76% RECYCLING RATE
HERE IN CALIFORNIA OF PLASTIC
BOTTLES OF ALUMINUM BOTTLES AND
NUMBERS 80 OF GLASS BOTTLES.
IT'S ONLY 69. UM, I THINK
THERE'S SOME FACTS THAT THAT
WERE MADE THAT WERE LEFT OFF
FROM SOME PEER REVIEW STUDIES
THAT I'D LIKE TO GO THROUGH AS
WE TALK ABOUT THESE DIFFERENT,
UH, CONTAINERS. THE PLASTIC PE
Tð ALL PLASTIC IS NOT CREATED
EQUAL AND OUR, UH WE HAVE
RECOGNIZED THAT IN THE STATE WE
HAVE A WHOLE SYSTEM BUT ONE
THROUGH SEVENS IN WHICH EACH
RESIN GOES INTO, AND PE Tð,
WHICH IS THE VAST MAJORITY OF
ALL BEVERAGE CONTAINERS, IS A
SUPERIOR PRODUCT. WHEN IT COMES
TO REUSING IT, IT'S EASY TO
RECYCLE. IT'S CHEAP TO RECY. AND
WE CAN MAKE BOTTLE TO BOTTLE.
UH, CURRENTLY, AND THE INDUSTRY
HAS INVESTED GREAT TIME AND
EFFORT INTO MAKING THIS A
REALITY AND WE DO IT HERE IN
CALIFORNIA. WE HAVE SIX
RECLAIMERS THAT TAKE THAT
MATERIAL. UM AND GRIND IT UP AND
REMAKE BOTTLES HERE LOCALLY FROM
FAIRFIELD DOWN TO RIVERSIDE.
THERE'S AND EVERYWHERE IN
BETWEEN. WE HAVE DIFFERENT
PLANTS THAT ARE LOCALLY DONE
HERE IN CALIFORNIA. WE'RE GONNA
INVITE YOU TO COME TO THE
RECLAIMERS AS WELL. UH, AND SEE
THAT SYSTEM IN ACTION. SO UM,
AND THEN WE HAVE THEM AS WE
DISCUSSED THE MANDATORY MINIMUM
CONTENT. UH THE OTHER, UH UH,
ONES DON'T HAVE THOSE
REQUIREMENTS, AND SO WE'RE
PUTTING MORE AND MORE, UH
PLASTIC BACK INTO THE BOTTLES
AND USING THAT TECHNOLOGY TO
MOVE IT. I THINK WE TALKED A LOT
ABOUT, UH, A BOTTLE OF WATER
HERE AND REFILLING STATIONS.
THIS BILL IS MUCH MORE BROAD
THAN THAT. IT INCLUDES JUICE. IT
INCLUDES MILK IT INCLUDES, UM
ALL THE DIFFERENT, UH, BEVERAGES
THAT COULD BE THERE WITH
CARBONATED NON CARBONATED, SO
IT'S MORE BROAD THAN THAT, SO
THE OTHER ALTERNATIVE THAT'S
PRETTY COMMON FOR USING MILK,
FOR INSTANCE, IS A CARTON A
CARTON IS NOT VERY RECITAL SAY,
VERY RECYCLABLE. UH, THOSE PAPER
CARTONS WHEN THEY'RE COATED, UM
ARE ARE ARE ARE NOT PUT BACK
INTO THE SYSTEM. SO THE, UM AND
THEN I'LL GET TO THE SOME OF THE
SCIENCE POINTS. THE SEVERAL PEER
REVIEWED STUDIES SHOW THAT THE,
UH PE Tð BOTTLE IS SUPERIOR ON
ITS G HÌ Dð PERFORMANCE. THE
LESS GLOBAL GREENHOUSE GAS
EMISSIONS, PRODUCING A, UH, PE
Tð BOTTLE THAN THERE IS ALUMINUM
OR, UH, A GLASS. THEY'RE ALSO
FAR MORE EX, UH, HEAVIER.
THERE'S MORE TRANSPORTATION,
MORE ENERGY TO TURN THOSE
ALUMINUM AND GLASS IN BACK INTO
A BOTTLE ITSELF. WE USE
DETERGENTS WHEN YOU WASH THE
GLASS BOTTLES, HOT WATER TO GET
THEM CLEAN, AND THEN YOU HAVE TO
DRAW TRANSPORT THEM AND THEY'RE
VERY HEAVY. SO THOSE ARE ALL
ACTUAL FACTS. ABOUT THIS BEING A
SUPERIOR FROM THAT ENVIRONMENTAL
STANDPOINT THAT I'LL ADDRESS THE
MICROPLASTICS. TODAY YOU HAVE
SEVERAL BILLS ON PLASTICS THAT
ARE ON FILM THAT'S COMING UP.
THAT'S THAT THAT ARE THERE AND,
UH, THE MICROPLASTICS ARE
GENERATED OFTEN AND MOST
COMMONLY FROM THREES AND FIVES,
NOT FROM ONE P, Tð S¼ AND NOT
FROM WATER BOTTLES. UM AGAIN,
THERE'S A USE FOR THOSE. SO UH
AND THEN, FINALLY, THE STATE
STATE FACILITIES. EVERYBODY
THINKS OF THIS AS AN BUILDING OR
A CLASSROOM OR A UNIVERSITY. WE
HAVE, YOU KNOW, CALTRANS WORK
YARDS, UM, FAIRGROUNDS. WE
TALKED ABOUT PRISONS, UM, EXPO
PARK IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
WHERE THEY'RE GONNA HAVE. I WAS
JUST LISTENING TO IT HEARING
LAST WEEK WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO
HAVE OLYMPIC FESTIVITIES AND
THINGS OF THAT AREA. THOSE ARE
ALL GONNA NEED, UH, WE SUPPORT
FILLING STATIONS. BUT WHEN YOU
GET TO THE PLETHORA OF
BEVERAGES, THEY'RE ALL GONNA
NEED THAT. AND SO WITH THAT, UM,
THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES HERE
THAT THAT COULD COVERED A LOT OF
, I THINK INFORMATION THAT NEEDS
TO BE MORE THOROUGHLY, UH,
DISCUSSED AND OBVIOUSLY THE
INDUSTRY NEEDS TO DO A BETTER
JOB EDUCATING FOLKS AND WE PLAN
TO DO THAT. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. THERE. THERE THERE GOES ALL
THE GRACE GAINED, UH, BY DAVIES
GIVING US HER TIME, BUT WANTED
TO, UH, WANT TO GIVE YOU A FAIR
CHANCE TO MAKE YOUR POINT ANY
OTHERS IN THE ROOM WHO WOULD
LIKE TO REGISTER THEIR
OPPOSITION? UH, MR CHAIRMAN
CHRIS MALLEY ON BEHALF OF
NIAGARA BOTTLING. WE SHARE THE
CONCERNS AS OUTLINED BY OUR
ASSOCIATION, THE A B A THANK
YOU. THANK YOU, CHRIS. MEMBERS
OF THE COMMITTEE TIM SST WITH
THE AMERICAN CHEMISTRY COUNCIL.
ALSO AN OPPOSITION. THANK YOU.
CHAIR AND MEMBERS BRUCE MIGNONI
ON BEHALF OF THE ASSOCIATION OF
PLASTICS RECYCLERS REALLY
APPRECIATE DENNIS' TESTIMONY. WE
DO HAVE A VERY STRONG AND ROBUST
RECYCLING INFRASTRUCTURE HERE IN
THE STATE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
SO MUCH, SIR. WITH THAT WE'LL
TURN IT BACK TO COMMITTEE
MEMBERS, SOME OF THEM BY KHAN.
YOURSELF THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR
CHAIR, AND THANK YOU, MR BENNETT
FOR THIS BILL. YOU KNOW, I THINK
IT WAS ONE OF I HAD THE
PRIVILEGE OF GOING TO THE U N
CLIMATE CONFERENCE, AND ONE OF
MY BIGGEST TAKEAWAYS FROM THE
CONFERENCE WAS THE SHIFT FROM
OIL COMPANIES PRODUCING OIL FOR
OUR CARS TO PLASTICS, AND WE
REALLY NEED TO BE AWARE OF WHAT
PLASTICS ARE DOING TO OUR WORLD
AND HOW IT IS PROVIDING GREATER
CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE DEGRADATION
OF OUR CLIMATE. AND I THINK THIS
IS A PIECE OF THAT, UM, A COUPLE
QUESTIONS. I THINK THE
OPPOSITION HAS BROUGHT UP SOME
VERY SPECIFIC POINTS FOR THINGS
THAT MAY MAKE SENSE THAT THE
ALTERNATIVES AREN'T BETTER. AND
I, YOU KNOW, I HOPE YOU'LL
CONTINUE CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM
TO REFINE THE BILL. BUT ACTUALLY
, I WAS MORE CONCERNED. UM ABOUT
THE HEALTH AND SAFETY EXEMPTION
IN HERE, WHICH IS VERY, VERY
NARROW. IT REQUIRES A
DECLARATION OF EMERGENCY. AND I
KNOW THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, NATIVE
CALIFORNIANS FOR MUCH OF THE
YEAR DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO WATER
. THEIR LAND DRIES UP, AND THE
STATE PROVIDES NATIVE
CALIFORNIANS WITH BOTTLED WATER
TO LITERALLY ALLOW THEM TO LIVE
THROUGH THE END OF THE YEAR.
THIS HAPPENS IN ABOUT JULY OR
AUGUST. AND AS I READ THIS, THAT
DOESN'T HAPPEN AS A RESULT OF A
DECLARATION OF EMERGENCY AND
THAT PURCHASE OF BOTTLED WATER
COULD BE AT RISK BASED ON THIS
BILL. UM, YOU KNOW I HAVE A BILL
RIGHT NOW FOCUSED ON CLEAN WATER
IN PRISONS. WE HAVE PREGNANT
PEOPLE IN PRISON THAT DO NOT
HAVE ACCESS TO CLEAN WATER. THEY
NEED BOTTLED WATER. AND SO I DO
THINK THERE IS MUCH NEEDED
AMENDMENT HERE TO ENSURE THAT
WE'RE CALIFORNIA. BEYOND A
DECLARATION OF EMERGENCY IS
STILL PROVIDING FOR THE HEALTH
AND SAFETY OF CALIFORNIANS. WE
HAVE THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE THIS
RESOURCE BECAUSE IT IS LIFE
SUSTAINING. SO I WANT TO GIVE
YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS
THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. AND AS I SAID IN MY
OPENING COMMENTS, PARTICULARLY
WE HAD HEARD THE ISSUES ABOUT
PRISONS, AND WE'RE VERY
COMFORTABLE MAKING WHATEVER
AMENDMENTS WE NEED TO MAKE TO
MAKE SURE THAT IT'S CLEAR. BUT
THE WHOLE REASON THAT WE HAVE
THE EXEMPTIONS IN HERE IS
BECAUSE WE'RE NOT TRYING TO HAVE
UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES OF
DENYING NATIVE PEOPLES OF WATER
THAT THEY NEED DENYING THAT YOU
KNOW, IN IN ANY CRITICAL
SITUATION. SO WE ARE MORE THAN
HAPPY BETWEEN. YOU KNOW, AS THIS
BILL MOVES ITS WAY FORWARD TO
WORK. INDUSTRY BUT ALSO WORK
WITH LEGISLATIVE LEADERS AND
OTHER PEOPLE THAT COME UP WITH,
UH, WITH GOOD IDEAS TO MODIFY
THIS. IT'S A REAL QUESTION IS DO
WE WANT TO JOIN THE UC SYSTEM,
THE CALC SYSTEM AND
DEMONSTRATING LEADERSHIP, WHILE
WE STILL HAVE APPROPRIATE
EXEMPTIONS FOR ALL OF THOSE
THINGS THAT WE KNOW WE CAN'T
INSTANTLY SWITCH OVER? I'D BE
HAPPY TO DO THAT. THANK YOU
HAPPY TO SUPPORT IT TODAY.
THANKS SO MUCH, MS FRIEDMAN. SO
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE
OPPOSITION. SO AND WE'RE TOLD
THAT 70% THESE BOTTLES ARE
RECYCLED. DOES THAT MEAN THAT
THEY'RE ACTUALLY MADE INTO
SOMETHING ELSE SO THAT THEY GO
INTO THE BINS AND OF THOSE THAT
I SO WHAT PERCENTAGE ARE
ACTUALLY MADE INTO ANOTHER GOOD
AND OF THAT PERCENTAGE, WHAT
PERCENTAGE OF THAT ULTIMATELY
ENDS UP IN LANDFILL. SO IN A LOT
OF THE DATA YOU HEAR NATIONALLY,
SORRY. NATIONALLY IS DIFFERENT.
CALIFORNIA IS VERY DIFFERENT. WE
HAVE A BOTTLE BUILT. IT FOLLOWS
THE NICKEL FOLLOWS IT SO YOU DO
NOT GET YOUR NICKEL BACK UNTIL
THAT. UH, THAT BOTTLE GETS INTO
TO THE SYSTEM OF WHICH MR
MIGNONI, UH, CLIENTS HANDLE AND
THAT'S THE RECLAIMERS THAT THE
LAST I UP AND HANDLING IT SO
ESSENTIALLY 76% GET MADE INTO
SOMETHING DIFFERENT NOW, UH,
MENTIONED THAT THERE'S COULD BE
BUILDING PRODUCTS. IF IT'S VERY
LOW QUALITY, HIGHER QUALITY. WE
WANT IT TO GO BUILD A BOTTLE TO
BOTTLE. THAT IS THE IDEAL BUT
AGAIN, UM, I DO NOT HAVE THE
STATISTIC OFF TOP OF MY HEAD.
HOW MANY GO INTO BOTTLES AND HOW
MANY GO INTO OTHER, UH, OTHER,
UH, USES BUT ESSENTIALLY ALL 76%
OF THOSE GO INTO OUR RECYCLED
INTO ANOTHER PRODUCT. OR YOU
DON'T GET THE NICKEL BACK. SO
UH, WHAT IS THE RECYCLED CONTENT
NOW IN THE BOTTLES RIGHT NOW,
IT'S REQUIRED TO BE AT LEAST 15%
ON 2025. IT'LL BE 25% IN 2030
GETS TO 50% SO YOU STILL HAVE A
LOT OF VIRGIN PLASTIC BEING
MANUFACTURED TO GO INTO THESE?
IT'S NOT NEARLY A CLOSED LOOP.
WELL, THERE'S A CLOSED LOOP FOR,
UH MANY OF THEM. BUT UH, SEVERAL
BRANDS HAVE HAVE FULLY 100%
RECYCLED PRODUCT. THERE ISN'T
ENOUGH. UH UH, OUR PET RP Tð AND
IT'S IN CALIFORNIA AND IN THE IN
THE IN THE MARKETS TO FEED THE
ENTIRE DEMAND, AND PART OF THAT
IS BECAUSE SOME OF THE DEMAND IS
FOR YOU KNOW, ROY SHOES. MY WIFE
HAS ROY SHOES. I BOUGHT THEM FOR
CHRISTMAS OR, YOU KNOW, CARS ARE
USING THEM. THIS IS FOR
SUSTAINABILITY ON THEIR
DASHBOARD. AND THEIR THING. SO A
LOT OF PEOPLE WANT THIS THIS
MATERIAL, UM AND WE'RE PUTTING,
YOU KNOW A GOOD AMOUNT BACK INTO
THE BOTTLES AND THOSE WOULD BE
CLOSED LOOP. UH, FOR THAT, BUT
OBVIOUSLY SOME COMES IN, UH, AS
YOU MENTIONED TO FILL THE VIRGIN
SIDE AS WELL. AND DO YOU HAVE
ANY IDEA OF HOW MUCH, UH,
PLASTIC THAT ENDS UP IN LANDFILL
STARTED OUT AS A BOTTLE. I DON'T
KNOW THAT YEAH. THANK YOU. UH,
SIMILAR MEMBER WICKS. THANK YOU,
MR CHAIR. UM THANK YOU, MR
BENNETT FOR BRINGING THE BILL.
UM I'LL BE SUPPORTING THE BILL
TODAY. YOU'RE VERY THOROUGH
AUTHOR. UM UH, I'M I'M ALSO I'M
NOT JUST SUPPORTING THE BILL
BECAUSE MY SEVEN YEAR OLD WENT
TO THE MONTEREY BAY AQUARIUM AND
SAW THE, UM INSTALLATION THERE
OF THE FLOATING GARBAGE AND SHE
REMINDS ME EVERY DAY AND
ACTUALLY LECTURES ME FOR USING
PLASTICS IN OUR HOUSE. THAT'S
NOT WHY I'M SUPPORTING THE BILL.
BUT I THINK THAT'S UM NOT A BAD
REASON. BUT UM, I AM SUPPORTING
THE BILL BECAUSE I DO THINK WE
HAVE TO MAKE HEADWAY IN THIS
SPACE. UM, IT HAVING ALL THAT
IT'S HARD AND IT'S COMPLICATED.
UM AND I WOULD JUST ASK THAT YOU
WORK WITH THE OPPOSITION AS WE
MOVE THROUGH THE PROCESS, WHICH
I KNOW YOU WILL, UM SO THAT WE
CAN THINK THROUGH SOME OF THE
UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES THAT MY
COLLEAGUE WHO WE MATCH TODAY,
WHICH WE DID NOT PLAN ON DOING,
UM, HAS RAISED UM, BECAUSE I DO
THINK THERE ARE OTHER THINGS
THAT WE NEED TO THINK THROUGH.
AND I THINK THE OTHER THING
THAT'S IMPORTANT AND I THINK
MISS FRIEDMAN SORT OF GOT TO
THIS IS THE DATA CAN BE, UM,
DIFFICULT TO PARSE THROUGH IN
TERMS OF THE REALITIES AROUND
RECYCLING. SO IN AS MUCH AS WE
CAN HAVE DATA THAT REALLY LEVEL
SETS THE CONVERSATION AS WE GO
THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT WOULD
BE HELPFUL, BUT JUST WOULD
RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT YOU
CONTINUE TO WORK THROUGH. I KNOW
THESE BILLS ARE BIG LIFTS. I
WANT TO GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY
TO CONTINUE TO WORK THROUGH THE
BILL. AS I KNOW THAT YOU WILL,
UM AND I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE
BILL IN THE HOPES ALSO THAT YOU
KEEP TALKING TO OPPOSITION. LIKE
WHAT THANK YOU, MR CHAIR AND
THANK YOU TO THE AUTHOR. UM I
KIND OF ECHO THE SOME OF THE
COMMENTS OF THE PREVIOUSLY MADE
BUT JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS, I.
I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE BILL
TODAY. BUT I, I HAVE SOME
CONCERNS THERE ARE THERE ARE
DETAILS IN HERE THAT THAT I DO
HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT. I THINK
SOMEONE BROUGHT UP THE CONCERNS
ABOUT EMERGENCIES AND THINGS
LIKE THAT. THERE ARE SITUATIONS
THAT HAPPEN. UH, WHERE YOU NEED
ACCESS TO WATER, AND IT HASN'T
BEEN A DECLARED EMERGENCY. AND I
DON'T. I WANT TO BE SURE THAT
THAT THAT WE'RE NOT CREATING A
BIGGER PROBLEM. UM THERE WILL BE
COSTS TO PUTTING IN A LOT OF
THESE WATER FILLING UNITS AND UM
WHAT I WHAT I WHAT I PUZZLED BY
BECAUSE THE BILL IS A RECYCLING
BILL, BUT YOU'VE CONFLATED
HEALTH CONCERNS IN HERE THAT
THAT ARE STILL BEING RESEARCHED.
YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT
MICROPLASTICS SHOWING UP AND IN
AND IN FLUIDS AND ORGANS AND
THINGS LIKE THAT THE SCIENCE IS
OUT AS TO WHAT THAT REALLY MEANS
. AND SO I'M NOT SURE THAT
THAT'S REALLY YOU KNOW, Ó OTHER
THAN A STATE. I YOU KNOW, I LOOK
, I COME FROM A SCIENCE AND A
HEALTH BACKGROUND. SO WE DON'T
KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS. THAT AND
SO I YOU KNOW A LITTLE. I'M A
LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT SEEING
THAT THERE. I DON'T KNOW HOW
THAT HOW THAT REALLY PLAYS INTO
THIS. IN A PERFECT WORLD THAT
MAYBE THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN
REFERRED TO HEALTH COMMITTEE,
TOO. IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
THIS ISSUE, BUT BUT, UM AT THE
OTHER THING THAT, UM, COMES BACK
TO ME, IS, UM THINKING ABOUT THE
FILLERS. YOU KNOW THAT THE
FILLERS THEY PROBABLY HAVE
PLASTIC TUBING IN THEM. AND THAT
PLASTIC TUBING PROBABLY LEACHES
MICROPLASTICS, BECAUSE PRETTY
MUCH ALL OF THESE THINGS. MY
REFRIGERATOR HAS A WATER FILLER
IN ITS PLASTIC TUBING AND SO ON,
AND SO FORTH, SO AS WE MOVE TO
TRY TO BÀN SOMETHING WE MAY HAVE
OTHER ISSUES THAT ARE
CONTRIBUTING TO, UH
MICROPLASTICS SHOWING UP IN
BODILY FLUIDS AND ORGANS AND
THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THEN THE
FINAL THING THAT THERE'S A
DEFINITION HERE OF A SINGLE USE
PLASTIC BOTTLE, WHICH INCLUDES
MILK CARTONS, SMALL MILK
CARTONS. IS IT YOUR INTENT? TO
HAVE STATE AGENCIES NOT HAVE HOW
HOW WILL THEY DISPENSE MILK?
BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T WANT THE
PLASTIC BOTTLES, AND YOU AND
DEFINITION IS A STATE IS A MILK
CARTON THAT IS LESS THAN 21
FLUID OUNCES THAT THAT BY BY I'M
READING HERE, SAYS SINGLE USE
BOTTLE MEANS A BEVERAGE IN A
SEALED PLASTIC BOTTLE OR A
PLASTIC COATED CARD CARTON WITH
A CAPACITY OF 21 FLUID, OUNCES
OR LESS. THAT'S A MILK CARTON.
THAT'S SCHOOLS. THAT'S THAT'S
PRISONS. THAT'S POTENTIALLY
STATE HOSPITALS. UM AND SO ON.
AND SO I'VE GOT AN ISSUE WITH SO
I GUESS MY POINT IS THAT THERE
ARE THERE ARE THERE ARE THINGS
TO WORK ON HERE. I'LL SUPPORT
I'LL I'LL SUPPORT YOU TODAY, BUT
, UM, BUT JUST, YOU KNOW, THIS
IS A BIG THIS IS A BIG LIFT, AND
IT'S GOING OFF IN MULTIPLE
DIRECTIONS, SO I'D JUST LIKE TO
SEE IT. MORE FOCUSED. THANK YOU,
MR WOOD. MISS MILLER. SO, JUST
THANK YOU, UM, JUST FOR MY OWN
EDUCATION. SO WHAT IS THE BEST
ALTERNATIVE TO PLASTIC BOTTLES?
SO WE'RE GONNA BE SERVING MILK
IN THESE FACILITIES OR ORANGE
JUICE OR APPLE CIDER? WELL WHAT
IS THE IDEAL CONTAINER THAT IS
THE BEST ENVIRONMENTALLY SOUND.
WHEN WHENEVER YOU COULD REDUCE
OR REUSE SO LARGER CONTAINERS
RIGHT LARGER THAN LAR, LARGER
CONTAINERS WHERE YOU COULD THEN
USE A PAPER CUP TO DO THE
DISTRIBUTION, ET CETERA. AND I'M
NOT SAYING I'M NOT SAYING I HAVE
THE SCIENTIFIC SOLUTION FOR ALL
OF THAT STUFF. UM, BUT, UH IT.
YOU KNOW, WE CAN GO BACK TO, YOU
KNOW, CAN BOTTLES AND YOU KNOW,
BOTTLES AND ALUMINUM. AT LEAST
THOSE ITEMS GET CAN BE RECYCLED
OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
THEY DON'T END UP IN THE WASTE
STREAM. UM AND BECAUSE YOU CAN
KEEP RECYCLING THOSE THINGS,
IT'S MUCH EASIER TO BE ABLE TO
DO THAT THIS PLASTIC BREAKS DOWN
AND IT ENDS UP IN THE WASTE
STREAM. ONE WAY OR THE OTHER AT,
UH, YOU KNOW, MUCH FASTER THAN
CERTAINLY ALUMINUM OR OR
BOTTLES. SO I WOULD GO BACK TO.
WE USED TO BE ABLE TO GET MILK
TO PEOPLE YOU KNOW, BACK IN THE
19 FIFTIES WITHOUT WITHOUT A
SINGLE USE PLASTIC BOTTLE. WE
USED TO BE ABLE TO GET THOSE
THINGS DONE IT. IT CAN BE DONE.
I DON'T HAVE EVERY TECHNICAL
ANSWER. UH, AND UNTIL WE GET YOU
KNOW THE RIGHT TECHNICAL ANSWER.
WE CERTAINLY ARE NOT GOING TO
PUT THE HEALTH OF ANYBODY AT
RISK BY SAYING, OH, SORRY. WE'RE
WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE GONNA
WE'RE GONNA SERVE YOU MILK AND
SOME OTHER CONTAMINATED. WAY
BECAUSE OF THIS OF THIS BILL, WE
WOULD THAT YOU KNOW THAT THAT
WOULD QUALIFY UNTIL YOU COME UP
WITH A MORE APPROPRIATE WAY I
WOULD ASSUME AND THAT'S THE KIND
OF THING WE WOULD WORK ON. BUT
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THESE.
THE THREE QUESTIONS FROM
EVERYBODY AFTER, UH I RESPECT
YOUR ANSWERS. DO YOU HAVE ANY
OTHER THAT WAS? I JUST WANT TO
SAY I SHARE THE CONCERNS AND I
APPRECIATE YOUR WORK AS THE
AUTHOR WORKING WITH THE
OPPOSITION AND THANK YOU. SO IF
I COULD IN RESPOND TO MY
COLLEAGUES THAT THAT THAT ASK
QUESTIONS, AND I'M GONNA START
WITH, UH OVER HERE, AND THAT IS
ASSEMBLY MEMBER FRIEDMAN AND
THAT IS I DON'T II. I DID NOT
TRY TO CITE A LOT OF RECYCLING
STATISTICS HERE, AND I DIDN'T
BECAUSE THERE AREN'T GOOD.
STATISTICS AND SO THE ONLY
STATISTIC WE SEEM TO HAVE THAT
HAS ANY SORT OF LONG TERM
VALIDITY TO IT IS THAT CAL
RECYCLE GOES IN AND THEY CHECK
THE BINS AND THEY THEY SIT THERE
AND ACTUALLY JUST DO SOME SPOT
CHECKS AND FIND OUT HOW MUCH OF
HOW MUCH OF THIS HAS RECYCLED
BOTTLES IN IT, ETCETERA AND THEY
THEY USE THAT TO DETERMINE THE
RATE THAT THEY'RE GONNA PAY THE
RECYCLERS. UM YOU KNOW, TO MOVE
FORWARD, AND THAT RATE IS
BETWEEN 70 76. IT'S WHAT THEY'RE
SAYING OR THE PLASTIC BOTTLES
THAT ARE RECYCLED, BUT IT DOES
NOT TELL US HOW MANY OF THOSE
BOTTLES IN THAT CUBE WHEN YOU
SEE THOSE BIG CUBES OF PLASTIC
HOW MANY OF THOSE ACTUALLY GET
TURNED IN TO BOTTLES? THERE'S
ALL KINDS OF OTHER AND SO I
WELCOME THE COMMENTS OF MY
COLLEAGUES. THAT SAID, PLEASE
WORK WITH THE INDUSTRY BECAUSE
THE SECOND THING I WOULD POINT
OUT IN RESPONSE TO WHAT MY UH UH
, MY COLLEAGUE BROUGHT UP ABOUT,
UH, JUST GOOD. YOU KNOW, SHE
DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE UNINTENDED
CONSEQUENCES HERE IF YOU PUT IF
YOU RESULT IF THE RESULT OF YOUR
BILL IS UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES,
YOU ACTUALLY HURT YOUR MOVEMENT
MORE THAN YOU HELP IT, AND SO
WE'RE VERY COMMITTED TO TRYING
TO SAY WE WILL BE CREATIVE AND
FLEXIBLE AND TRY TO DO
EVERYTHING WE CAN TO NOT HAVE
UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES. SO
THAT'S A PLEDGE. I CERTAINLY
MAKE TO, UH UH, ASSEMBLY MEMBER
BY KHÓ. YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF
DOING THIS AND ASSEMBLY MEMBER
WIX WAS TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW,
WORKING WITH THE INDUSTRY. I
HERE TO SAY WE HAVE TERRIBLE
RECYCLERS, AND THEY'RE DOING A
TERRIBLE JOB OR ANYTHING. WE
HAVE GREAT RECYCLERS THAT ARE
TRYING TO DO A GOOD JOB. WE JUST
HAVE A SYSTEM THAT STILL NEEDS
TO GO A LONG WAYS BEFORE IT'S
SUSTAINABLE. IF WE SAY YOU KNOW
WHAT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR
CALIFORNIA IT'S GOOD ENOUGH THAT
WE HAVE 6 BILLION BOTTLES,
PLASTIC BOTTLES OF VIRGIN
PLASTIC BEING CREATED EVERY
YEAR. THAT THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH,
RIGHT? BECAUSE WE HAVE 12
BILLION AND WE'RE AT 2030. WE'RE
ONLY GONNA HAVE A 50% RECYCLING
CONTENT. THAT'S SIX. IF WE WANT
TO SAY THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH, SO
IT'S NOT THAT THE INDUSTRY IS
WRONG, BUT WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO
WORK WITH THE INDUSTRY. BUT IF
WE NEED TO WORK WITH THE
INDUSTRY, WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO
GET ANSWERS AND WE HAVE NOT BEEN
ABLE TO GET CLEAR INFORMATION
FROM THE INDUSTRY. SO I'M GLAD
WE GET TO SAY THIS OUT HERE. WE
DON'T HAVE CLEAR INFORMATION
FROM THE INDUSTRY. EXACTLY WHAT
ARE THEY WITH THE PLASTIC WHEN
THEY GET IT EXACTLY HOW MANY OF
THOSE ARE IN ANSWER TO THE
QUESTION? HOW MANY ARE BEING
TURNED BACK INTO BOTTLES? HOW
MANY BOTTLES TO BOTTLES? DO WE
HAVE? THERE'S NOBODY IN
CALIFORNIA THAT'S GOING TO GIVE
YOU AN ACCURATE ANSWER. IN TERMS
OF THAT. WE OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO
ANSWER THOSE KIND OF QUESTIONS.
SO I WELCOME A PARTNERSHIP WITH
THE INDUSTRY AS LONG AS THE
INDUSTRY WILL WORK WITH US AND
HELP US ACHIEVE THE GOAL OF IN
THE LONG RUN, GET A TRULY 100%
RECYCLABLE A TRULY 100%
RECYCLABLE. THAT'S THE THAT'S
THE THIRD GOAL, REMEMBER, REDUCE
, REUSE AND THEN 100% RECYCLABLE
. WE'RE NOT EVEN AT THAT. AND
THEN FINALLY TO MR WOODS.
CERTAINLY AGREE THAT WE'RE NOT
TRYING TO PROVE THERE'S A HEALTH
CONSEQUENCE YET FROM THOSE
NANOPLASTICS. BUT WHEN YOU GET A
STUDY FROM COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY
THAT INDICATES ALL OF THAT IS IN
THERE THAT WATER. I THINK MOST
OF US COULD SAY THAT 100 AND 50
YEARS AGO THAT WASN'T IN OUR
WATER, AND SO IT'S AT LEAST A
REASON FOR US TO BE CAUTIOUS AND
PROACTIVE. IT'S NOT PROOF THAT
WE SHOULD DO SOMETHING, AND
THERE ARE SO MANY OTHER THINGS
AND LIKE, LIKE SO MANY
COMPLICATED ISSUES WE RECOGNIZE
IT'S JUST ANOTHER REASON BUT NOT
PROOF THAT WE SHOULD GO FORWARD.
BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE
COMMENT NOW. WELL, I WAS GONNA
TAKE THAT AS YOUR CLOSE. MR
MARUCCI HAS A QUESTION. NÓ
QUESTION. I JUST WANTED TO SAY
THAT I JUST RECEIVED A BRIEFING
RECENTLY FROM OUR OUR WATER
AGENCY, AND THEY WERE TALKING
ABOUT MICROPLASTICS BEING IN OUR
DRINKING WATER SUPPLY BEING LIKE
APPROACHING. UH UH, YOU KNOW, A
CRISIS SITUATION, AND SO, UM, UM
, I TRUST THAT YOU WILL BE
WORKING. UH, UH, TO ADDRESS ALL
THE UN CONSEQUENCES AND WOULD
LOVE TO BE ADDED AS A CO-AUTHOR
TO YOUR BILL. WHAT A GREAT CLOSE
WITH THAT WE HAVE A MOTION TO
MOVE THE BILL. MOTION BY MARUCCI
SECOND SECOND BY FRIEDMAN. MADAM
SECRETARY. CAN WE CALL THE ROLL?
THE MOTION IS TO PASS AS AMENDED
TO APPROPRIATIONS. BRIAN I FLORA
B KHAN KHAN. I FRIEDMAN FRIEDMAN
I HOOVER HOOVER NÓ CæA. MATTIS.
MERITS. SUI MERITS A PELLERIN
PELLERIN, I WIX. W. WOULD I?
WE'LL LEAVE THAT ROLE OPEN.
THANK YOU, MR BENNETT. THANK
YOU, SIR. MISS REYES. BE THIS IS
2440. I GUESS. YOU HAVE, LIKE.
WHENEVER YOU'RE READY. THANK YOU
, MR CHAIR AND MEMBERS. I
PRESENT A B 2440, WHICH WILL
INCORPORATE THE STATE PARKS
DEPARTMENT AND OTHER AGENCIES
MANAGING STATE OWNED LANDS INTO
THE STATE'S GOAL OF CONSERVING
30% OF LANDS IN COASTAL WATERS
INTO THE STATE'S GOAL TO BY
2030. THE BILL WOULD ENSURE
EQUITABLE ACCESS TO THE OUTDOORS
FOR ALL UNSPECIFIED REPORTING
REQUIREMENTS AROUND THE 30 BY 30
GOAL. THE 30 BY 30 INITIATIVE,
WHICH WAS CODIFIED LAST YEAR BY
S¼ B. THREE 37 SETS THE BOLD
GOAL TO PROTECT AND CONSERVE 30%
OF CALIFORNIA'S LAND AND COAST
WATERS BY 2030. THIS GOAL IS A
CRITICAL STEP TO PRESERVE THE
STATE'S EXTRAORDINARY
BIODIVERSITY, ENSURE EQUITABLE
ACCESS TO NATURE AND BUILD
RESILIENCE TO CLIMATE CHANGE.
THE CALIFORNIA STATE PARKS HAS
AN IMPORTANT ROLE TO PLAY
THROUGH BOTH ACQUISITION AND
STEWARDSHIP. COMPRISING 1.6
MILLION ACRES OF PROTECTED LAND,
INCLUDING ALMOST ONE QUARTER OF
CALIFORNIA'S COASTLINE AND
PRESERVING A WIDE RANGE OF
ECOSYSTEMS FROM COASTAL WETLANDS
TO INLAND DESERT TO EVERY MAJOR
FOREST ECOSYSTEM IN THE STATE,
CALIFORNIA STATE PARKS ARE AN
INVALUABLE ASSET IN CONSERVATION
AND PROVIDING PUBLIC ACCESS TO
CALIFORNIA'S INCREDIBLE
LANDSCAPE. GIVEN THE UNIQUE ROLE
AND SIZE OF OUR STATE PARKS, IT
IS CRITICAL THAT THE STATE
PROMOTE AND SUPPORT THE
ACQUISITION STEWARDSHIP OF
STATE. LANDS AND STRIVE TO
CREATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR
EQUITABLE ACCESS TO THE OUTDOORS
WHILE FULFILLING THE 30 BY 30
GOAL. AS CHAIR OF THE SELECT
COMMITTEE ON STATE PARKS.
EQUITABLE ACCESS TO THE OUTDOORS
HAS BEEN MY NUMBER ONE PRIORITY.
OUR HEARING LAST YEAR WAS
FOCUSED ON ACHIEVING OUTDOOR
EQUITY, AND THIS BILL WOULD ALSO
REQUIRE THAT THE LEGISLATURE
RECEIVE AN ANNUAL UPDATE ON
PROGRESS. TOWARDS EXPANDING
ACCESS TO NATURE FOR ALL
CALIFORNIANS HERE TO TESTIFY IN
SUPPORT AND ANSWER ANY TECHNICAL
QUESTIONS IS EMILY DOYLE,
CLIMATE RESILIENCE, PROGRAM
MANAGER OF THE CALIFORNIA STATE
PARKS FOUNDATION. THANK YOU, UH,
GOOD AFTERNOON. SHARON MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS DOCTOR EMILY DOYLE
AND I AM THE CLIMATE RESILIENCE
PROGRAM MANAGER AT THE
CALIFORNIA STATE PARKS
FOUNDATION, A MEMBER SUPPORTED
NONPROFIT DEDICATED TO
PROTECTING AND PRESERVING THE
CALIFORNIA STATE PARK SYSTEM FOR
THE BENEFIT OF ALL AND THE PROUD
SPONSORS OF A B 20. 40 AS YOU
ALL KNOW, CLIMATE CHANGE AND
LOSS OF BIODIVERSITY POSE AN
EXISTENTIAL THREAT TO
CALIFORNIA'S ECOSYSTEMS AND
WILDLIFE. THE EVIDENCE IS CLEAR.
CLIMATE CHANGE IS HAVING
DETRIMENTAL IMPACTS ON
CALIFORNIA'S PEOPLE AND PLACES.
IT IS CRITICAL THAT WE ACT
QUICKLY TO FULFILL THE STATE'S
30 BY 30 GOALS OF PROTECTING AND
RESTORING BIODIVERSITY,
EXPANDING ACCESS TO NATURE AND
BUILDING RESILIENCE TO CLIMATE
CHANGE. CALIFORNIA STATE PARK
SYSTEM HAS A CRITICAL ROLE TO
PLAY IN THESE GOALS, INCLUDING
1.6 MILLION ACRES OF LAND.
ALMOST ONE QUARTER OF
CALIFORNIA'S COASTLINE.
CALIFORNIA STATE PARKS ARE AN
INVALUABLE ASSET AND
CONSERVATION, HISTORICAL
PRESERVATION AND PROVIDING
PUBLIC ACCESS TO CALIFORNIA'S
INCREDIBLE LANDSCAPES.
UNFORTUNATELY THE STATE'S
MASSIVE INVESTMENTS IN 30 BY 30
OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS HAVE
LARGELY OVERLOOKED OUR STATE
PARK SYSTEM. SINCE 2021,
CALIFORNIA HAS INVESTED OVER $1
BILLION FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO
FULFILL OUR 30 BY 30 GOALS AND
SUPPORT NATURE BASED CLIMATE
SOLUTIONS, BUT ONLY $12 MILLION
OF THIS NATURE BASED SOLUTIONS
FUNDING WAS DIRECTED TO STATE
PARKS. IN ADDITION TO THE STATE,
SUPPORTING THE CONSERVATION OF
NATURAL LANDS BY PRIVATE
PARTNERS, WE MUST ALSO
PRIORITIZE AND SUPPORT THEIR
RESPONSIBLE STEWARDSHIP OF STATE
HELD LANDS IN THE PURSUIT OF
PROTECTING CALIFORNIA'S RICH
BIODIVERSITY. 80 24 40 WILL
CLEARLY RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANT
ROLE THAT STATE PARKS AND OTHER
LAND MANAGERS PLAY IN ACHIEVING
30 BY 30 WILL INCREASE
TRANSPARENCY IN THE STATE'S
PROGRESS TOWARD FULFILLING THIS
GOAL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME,
AND I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR
I VOTE ON THIS MEASURE. THANK
YOU. ARE THERE ANY ANY PEOPLE IN
THE COMMITTEE ROOM? UH, IN
SUPPORT OF THIS MEASURE. MELISSA
ROMERO, CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL
VOTERS IN SUPPORT. GOOD
AFTERNOON CHAIR. RICO MASTER
DONATO WITH THE TRUST FOR PUBLIC
LAND. WANT TO THANK THE AUTHOR
FOR THIS BILL? WE'RE A LONG WAYS
FROM EQUITABLE ACCESS. UH,
ANYWHERE IN CALIFORNIA, SO
REALLY APPRECIATE. HELLO ABIGAIL
SMITH ON BEHALF OF SAVE THE
REDWOODS LEAGUE AND BYRON FUND
AND THE MID PENINSULA REGIONAL
OPEN SPACE DISTRICT AND SUPPORT
THANK YOU SO MUCH. UH, ARE THERE
ANY WITNESSES IN THE ROOM IN
OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL? OK? ARE
THERE ANY PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM IN
OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL? SEE NÓ
RETURNING IT BACK TO COMMITTEE
MEMBERS AND BAUER KHAN. YEAH, I
WANNA THANK THE AUTHOR FOR THIS
BILL. UM YOU KNOW, I KNOW YOU'RE
DEDICATION TO OUR STATE PARK
SYSTEM IS UNPARALLELED. AND I
REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. IT'S
SUCH AN ASSET. UM I. I TALKED TO
THE SECRETARY CROWFOOT ONCE
ABOUT THE TWO PLACES THAT
CALIFORNIANS DIRECTLY INTERACT
WITH STATE GOVERNMENT AND THE
Dð, M VÆ AND STATE PARKS AND
STATE PARKS IS WHERE THEY FEEL
GOOD ABOUT US. SO IT REALLY IS
ONE OF OUR GREATEST ASSETS. AND
I KNOW BOTH ASSEMBLY MEMBER
PELLER AND I HAVE DEALT WITH
INCREDIBLE LAND TRUSTS THAT ARE
BUYING UP OPEN SPACE TO PRESERVE
IT AND THEN CANNOT GET STATE
PARKS TO FOR THAT LAND, AND IT'S
HAPPENING UP AND DOWN THE STATE
AND THESE LAND TRUSTS ARE
WILLING TO BUY MORE LAND TO
PRESERVE MORE LAND TO ENSURE
THAT WE HAVE THE CARBON SINKS.
WE NEED FOR OUR FUTURE, BUT THEY
NEED TO OFFLOAD SOME OF THE
MAINTENANCE TO OUR STATE PARKS.
THERE'S A TON OF LAND SITTING
ADJACENT TO THE MOUNT DIABLO
STATE PARK THAT STATE PARKS IS
JUST NOT TAKING ON. AND I THINK
30 BY 30 IS A PERFECT
OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO START
LOOKING AT THOSE LAND
ACQUISITIONS AND BUILDING OUT
OUR STATE PARKS TO GIVE MORE
ACCESS, AND THAT'S JUST IN MY
DISTRICT. BUT I KNOW THIS IS
TRUE UP AND DOWN THE STATE. SO I
WANNA THANK YOU FOR THIS AND I
WOULD LOVE TO BE AS CO-AUTHOR.
IF YOU'LL HAVE ME. OF COURSE WE
WOULD HAVE YOU. THANK YOU. I
WANT TO DITTO THAT BECAUSE I,
TOO WOULD LIKE TO BE ADDED AS A
CO AUTHOR, AND THANK YOU SO MUCH
FOR BRINGING THIS BILL FORWARD.
IT REALLY DOES DO A LOT OF WORK
TO MEET OUR 30 BY 30 GOALS AND
AS AN EX OFFICIAL MEMBER OF THE
STATE PARK AND REC COMMISSION,
THIS IS ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL.
AND AS MY COLLEAGUE SAID, WE'RE
BOTH WORKING ON TRYING TO GET
THOSE OPEN LANDS TRANSFERRED
FROM THE NONPROFITS TO THE STATE
PARK. SO THIS IS RIGHT ON TRACK
WITH THAT, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.
SOME HARASS. WOULD YOU LIKE TO
CLOSE? RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR
I VOTE. THIS IS A FANTASTIC BILL
. CAN I JOIN AS A CO-AUTHOR AS
WELL? ABSOLUTELY WE'D LOVE IT.
MADAM SECRETARY, CAN WE CALL? DO
WE HAVE A MOTION? HELLER AND
BARER KHAN? CAN WE CALL THE ROLL
? THE MOTION IS DUE PASS THE
WATER PARKS AND WILDLIFE BRIAN
BRIAN I FLORA BARAK HAND BARAK
HAND I FED FRIEDMAN. I HOOVER
RIGHT? HOOVER I CHOLERA. MASSES
MATHIS I MARTUCCI MARTUCCI.
AERIN PELLERIN, I WIX WIX. I
WOULD WOULD I WE'LL LEAVE IT
OPEN FOR ABSENT AUTHORS. THANK
YOU, MISS IRWIN. THANK YOU FOR
YOUR PATIENCE. JUST 2577.
WHENEVER YOU'RE READY. GOOD
AFTERNOON, MR CHAIR OF MEMBERS.
I'M PLEASED TO PRESENT A B 2577,
CALIFORNIA'S S¼ B 1380 THREE
GOALS TO REDUCE METHANE
EMISSIONS AND RESCUE MORE
SURPLUS FOOD HAVE BEEN KEY
DRIVERS IN OUR STATE'S CLIMATE
POLICIES. AS 2025 APPROACHES,
CALIFORNIA MUST CONTINUE TO DO
MORE IF WE HOPE TO MEET THESE
STATUARY. UH, STATUARY, UH,
GOALS. ONE APPROACH HAS BEEN
PROVEN TO REDUCE METHANE
EMISSIONS AND SAVE SURPLUS FOOD
IS THE USE OF STANDARDIZED FOOD
PRODUCT DATE LABELS CURRENTLY,
UH UH, GROCERY STORES OFFER
PRODUCTS WITH ALL SORTS OF
DIFFERENT, UH, FOOD LABELS LIKE
EXPIRES ON BEST BEFORE. ENJOY BY
SELL BY JUST TO NAME A FEW. UH,
THESE LABELS CONSISTENTLY
MISLEAD AND CONFUSE CONSUMERS
SELL BY DATES, FOR EXAMPLE, ARE
MEANT TO SHOW GROCERS WHEN TO
ROTATE STOCK, AND THEY ARE
GENERALLY MEANINGLESS. UH TO THE
CONSUMER, MY SON HES A SELL BY
DATE, AND HE AUTOMATICALLY
THROWS THAT FOOD IN THE TRASH.
THE RESULTS OF THIS CONSUMER
CONFUSION IS A STAGGERING AMOUNT
OF FOOD WASTE, WITH ONE STUDY
ATTRIBUTING AS MUCH AS 20% OF
FOOD WASTE GOING TO THESE LABELS
. THIS CONTRIBUTES TO METHANE
EMISSIONS AS WASTED FOOD BROUGHT
IN PILLS, AND IT ULTIMATELY COST
CONSUMERS MONEY AT THE GROCERY
STORE. A 2577 WOULD STANDARDIZE
CALIFORNIA'S FOOD LABELS AND
DIRECT CAL RECYCLE TO PROMULGATE
REGULATIONS FOR FOOD LABELING IN
LINE WITH SB 1383, THE REDUCED
CONSUMER CONFUSION STEMMING FROM
CLEAR STANDARDIZED LABELS WILL
SAVE SURPLUS FOOD, KEEP IT OUT
OF LANDFILLS AND KEEP MORE MONEY
IN THE POCKETS OF CONSUMERS WITH
ME TO TESTIFY TODAY IN SUPPORT
OF THIS BILL AS MARK MURRAY,
REPRESENTING CALIFORNIANS
AGAINST WASTE GOOD AFTERNOON.
MARK MURRAY WITH THE
ENVIRONMENTAL GROUP CALIFORNIA
IS AGAINST WASTE. I THINK THAT
THE AUTHOR HAS ARTICULATED THE
PROBLEM AND THE SOLUTION. UM I
WALK INTO MY ROOF. I LOOK AT MY
REFRIGERATOR. I DON'T WALK INTO
MY REFRIGERATOR. I LOOK IN MY
REFRIGERATOR AND I SEE ALL OF
THESE DIFFERENT TERMS. MY
DAUGHTER ASKED ME. WHAT DOES
THIS MEAN? CAN I STILL CONSUME
THIS IF IT SAYS BEST BUY IF IT
SAYS EXPIRES BY SELL BY UNLIKE
YOUR SON, I ACTUALLY CONSUME ALL
OF THAT STUFF. UM REGARDLESS OF
THE DATE ON IT, IF IT'S IN MY
REFRIGERATOR, AND I'VE ALREADY
PAID FOR IT, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD
AND CONSUME IT. UM THAT SAID, UM
FAMILIES ARE LOSING MONEY IN
TERMS OF THE CONFUSION OVER
THESE DATES NOW, RATHER THAN
SPECIFY IN THIS STATUTE, WHAT
SHOULD ALL OF THESE TERMS AND
DATES ET CETERA MEAN? THIS IS
PROPOSING A THOUGHTFUL PROCESS
SO THAT, UM CAL RECYCLE CAN
PURSUE REGULATION IN
CONSULTATION WITH THE TO FIGURE
OUT WHAT IS THE BEST SYSTEM FOR
LABELING OUR FOOD PRODUCTS, SO
WE AREN'T POISONING PEOPLE. WE
AREN'T MAKING PEOPLE SICK AND WE
AREN'T THROWING THINGS AWAY
BEFORE THEIR TIME. VIRGIN. I
VOTE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ARE
THERE ANY, UH, PERSONS IN THIS
HEARING ROOM WHO WOULD LIKE TO
REGISTER THEIR SUPPORT FOR THIS
MEASURE? HELLO AGAIN. CHAIR
MEMBERS. I'M NICHOLAS MAZZOTTI
ON BEHALF OF RETHINK WASTE AND
COMPOST COALITION IN SUPPORT OF
THE MEASURE. THANK YOU. REBECCA
MARCUS, REPRESENTING Kò, PER AND
SUPPORT. WILL BRING HER ON
BEHALF OF CLIMATE ACTION,
CALIFORNIA AS WELL AS THE LOS
ANGELES AND SAN FERNANDO VALLEY
CHAPTERS OF CLIMATE REALITY
PROJECT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO
MUCH. MELISSA ROMERO, CALIFORNIA
ENVIRONMENTAL VOTERS IN SUPPORT.
ALCHEMY GRAHAM ON BEHALF OF STOP
WASTE IN CALIFORNIA STEWARDSHIP
COUNCIL IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
RENA COHEN ON BEHALF OF èC PER
STUDENTS IN STRONG SUPPORT.
LAURA DEEN ON BEHALF OF
ENVIRONMENT, CALIFORNIA IN
STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU SO
MUCH. ARE THERE ANY, UH,
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION TODAY?
SEEING NONE ANY PEOPLE WHO WOULD
LIKE TO REGISTER THEIR
OPPOSITION. SEEING NONE.
QUESTIONS, COMMENTS CONCERNS
FROM THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS, MR
WOOD THANK YOU, UH, FAMILY
MEMBER, IRWIN. THIS HAS BEEN
QUITE A JOURNEY. I KNOW YOU'VE
BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR QUITE A
WHILE, AND I'VE SUPPORTED YOU IN
ALL OF THOSE EFFORTS SO ACTUALLY
SURPRISED. I EXPECTED THERE TO
BE OPPOSITION FROM EGG
PRODUCERS. BUT MAYBE THAT WILL
HAPPEN LATER. UH UH, DOWN THE
LINE. SO, UM MY UNDERSTANDING AS
I RECALL. FROM THIS BECAUSE THE
HEALTH COMMITTEE THAT WE ASKED
INDUSTRY TO COME BACK TO US WITH
WITH PLANS IF I'M NOT CORRECT
AND ARE YOU STILL WAITING FOR
THAT? UH, WE ARE. WE'RE STILL
WORKING WITH INDUSTRY. BUT YOU
KNOW, JUST TO BE CLEAR IN 2017
INDUSTRY CAME UP WITH THEIR OWN
STANDARDS AND WHAT WE REALLY
WOULD LIKE TO, UM SEE HAPPENS
THOSE, UM THOSE STANDARDS PUT
INTO STATUTE, SO THAT IS, UH TO
USE FOR INSTANCE. WHAT THEY CAME
UP WITH IS BEST IF USED BY AND
USED BY, UM AGAIN. THE BIGGEST
THING WE WANNA DO IS GET RID OF
SELL BY BECAUSE IT IS COMPLETELY
MEANINGLESS. AND WE DID AS WE
WERE WORKING ON THIS. WE WENT
INTO GROCERY STORES, AND WE
LOOKED AT THE CHEESE SECTION AND
SAW 1520 DIFFERENT, UH, LABELS
THERE AND IT IS VERY CONFUSING
FOR CONSUMERS. SO UM, YES, THE
JOURNEY CONTINUES, AND WE WILL
CONTINUE TO WORK WITH ALL
PARTIES. WELL, THANK YOU. AND
THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND UH, I BE
SUPPORTING THE BILL TODAY, AND
I'D LOVE TO BE ADDED AS A CO
AUTHOR. IF YOU ARE YOU'VE GOT
ROOM ON YOUR ON YOUR SCORE SHEET
THERE. THANK YOU, MR BARROW.
THANK YOU, MR IRWIN. FOR THIS. I
THINK IT'S A SUPER SMART BILL
THAT WILL JUST LEAD TO LESS FOOD
WASTE. SO I APPRECIATE THE
EFFORT HERE AND AS SOMEONE WHO
IS RAISED BY, UM, HOLOCAUST
SURVIVORS WHO TAUGHT ME THAT THE
YOGURT MAKES YOU STRONGER IF YOU
EAT IT PAST THE SELL BY DATE,
BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WASTE ANY FOOD
IN OUR HOUSE. I AGREE. IT'S
MEANINGLESS. UM SO I WOULD ALSO
LOVE TO BE OUT AS A CO AUTHOR TO
THIS BILL, IF POSSIBLE.
ABSOLUTELY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS
FROM COMMITTEE MEMBERS. SHERWIN
WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE? UH,
JUST RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR I
VOTE. UH, THANK YOU FOR ALL OF
YOUR WORK ON THIS. WE'VE TALKED
ABOUT THIS MANY TIMES. UM, AS
YOU KNOW, I COME FROM A FAMILY
OF 15. SO WHEN WE WENT GROCERY
SHOPPING, WE DEFINITELY LOOKED
AT ALL OF THE CHEESE AND PICKED
THE ONE WITH THE FURTHEST DATE
AND AS THE DATE CAME CLOSER, MY
MOM HAD TO CLEAR OUT THE FRIDGE.
CLEAR OUT. UH, ALL THAT WAS
GOOD. SOMETIMES WE'D EAT CEREAL
MULTIPLE MEALS IN A ROW JUST TO
MAKE SURE WE GOT GOOD USE OUT OF
THE MILK. AND THEN, OF COURSE,
IF THE DATE WENT PAST WE DID THE
OLD SMELL TEST. UH, UNTIL THAT
DIDN'T PROVE TO BE EFFECTIVE.
THERE'S A BETTER WAY TO DO THIS.
AND YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON THAT
BETTER WAY TO DO THIS. AND I
APPLAUD THOSE EFFORTS. THIS BILL
HAS A DUE PASS. MADAM SECRETARY,
CAN WE CALL THE ROLL? THE MOTION
IS DUE PASS THROUGH
APPROPRIATIONS. BRIAN BRIAN I
FLORA FLORA NÓ BAR KHAN BAK
KHAN. I FRIEDMAN FRIEDMAN I
HOOVER HOOVER NÓ CHOLERA,
CHOLERA. I. MATHIS MATHIS NOR
TUCCI. COLORING LIKE PIN EYE WIX
WIX. I WOULD WOULD I THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
WE'LL LEAVE IT OPEN FOR ABSENT.
MEMBERS. GOOD BROTHER JACKSON.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE,
SIR. THIS IS 1857. IT IS. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. UH, MR CHAIR, UH,
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. UM I
AM PRESENTING A B 1857. UM AS
CALIFORNIA POLICYMAKERS, UH,
GRAPPLING WITH THE SWIFT AND
DEVASTATING IMPACTS OF CLIMATE
CHANGE. UH, IT WILL CERTAINLY
TEST OUR RESOLVE. AND REQUIRE US
TO CHANGE FROM WHAT WE THOUGHT
WE KNEW. TO WHAT WE MUST LEARN.
UH BUT ONCE WE LEARN, WE MUST
ALSO TAKE DECISIVE ACTION. UH,
SINCE BEING ELECTED. I'VE BEEN
ASKED, UH, BY MY OWN
CONSTITUENTS. UH, WHO HAVE GROWN
UP IN THE INLAND EMPIRE SUCH AS
MYSELF. TO ENSURE THAT, UH,
CALIFORNIA DOES EVERYTHING THAT
IT CAN TO CLEAN. OUR AIR IN THE
INLAND EMPIRE. THAT HAS BEEN
DEVASTATED, UH, BY THE GOODS
MOVEMENT. UH NOT ONLY BECAUSE OF
THE MOVING AND STATIONARY
SOURCES OF POLLUTION, BUT
BECAUSE OF THE GEOPHYSICAL. AND
TOPOGRAPHICAL REALITIES OF BEING
LOCATED IN VALLEYS. UH, ANYONE
WHO, UM, LIVES IN THE INLAND
EMPIRE, AND ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO
DO NOT. UH, I WOULD LIKE THEM TO
JUST IMAGINE IF, UH THEY
REPRESENTED A DISTRICT. THAT
YEAR AFTER YEAR, ACTUALLY
DECADES. HAS HAD THE WORST AIR
QUALITY IN THE ENTIRE STATE. AND
IS USUALLY IN THE TOP FIVE IN
THE ENTIRE NATION. HAVE HAD THE
HIGHEST CASES OF LUNG CANCER.
AND HAS HAD SOME OF THE HIGHEST
CASES OF CHILDREN FREQUENTLY
GOING TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM DUE
TO UNCONTROLLED ASTHMA. IN
ADDITION, WHAT IF YOU HAD AN AIR
QUALITY MANAGEMENT DISTRICT THAT
, UH, NÓ LONGER WAS TRUSTED BY
ITS PEOPLE THAT THEY TRIED TO
SERVE. OK? AND WHAT IF THEY WERE
EVEN DEEMED AH TO BE IN
VIOLATION. OF THE FEDERAL CLEAN
AIR ACT. WELL, THAT'S WHAT I'M
FACING. AND WE, ACTUALLY MR
CHAIR SHARE SHARE THE SAME. UH,
MANAGEMENT AREA. AND WHEN YOU
LOOK AT THE MAP UH, THE EYE OF
FOR AIR QUALITY IN L A COUNTY IS
YOUR DISTRICT. BUT WE
CONTINUALLY BE. WE'RE
CONTINUOUSLY BEING TOLD THAT
WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING POSSIBLE.
THERE'S NOTHING ELSE THAT CAN BE
DONE. UM, I FULLY REJECT THAT
ARGUMENT. UH SO ALL I'M TRYING
TO DO IS ENSURE THAT AIR POLICY
REGULATORS ARE TAKING INTO
CONSIDERATION THE UNIQUE AIR
QUALITY REGULATORY NEEDS. OF
COMMUNITIES THAT RESIDE IN
VALLEYS. THEY USED THE WORD AIR
BASINS. TO UH DUE TO THE
PROLONGED POLLUTION
CONCENTRATION. AND TO ENSURE WE
HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WE
NEED TO ENSURE WE ARE DOING
EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN WITHIN
OUR POWER. BECAUSE THE STATUS
QUO WAS JUST NOT ACCEPTABLE. NOW
AS CURRENTLY WRITTEN, THE A B
1857 WILL PROVIDE BETTER
OVERSIGHT OF CALIFORNIA AIR
DISTRICTS WITH VALLEYS. COLLECT
DATA AND THEN AFTER FIVE YEARS
SUNSET, THE PROGRAM UM AND I'M
SEEKING TO SO WE CAN MAKE SURE
THAT WE ARE PUTTING PEOPLE
FIRST. HOWEVER WITH DISCUSSION,
UH MANY, UH, WITH OFFICES OF,
UH, MEMBERS OF THIS COMMITTEE.
UM I'VE RECEIVED SOME GREAT
FEEDBACK AND WANT TO CONTINUE TO
WORK ON THIS BILL TO MAKE SURE
THAT, UM AH, THOSE CONCERNS ARE
BEING TAKEN CARE OF. UH, WHILE
STILL BEING ABLE TO UH, DELIVER
FOR THE PEOPLE OF MY DISTRICT.
UM IT IS MY INTENT TO UM, MORE
STREAMLINED, UH, THIS BILL TO
MAKING SURE THAT IT DOES NOT
AFFECT OTHER AREAS WHO MAY NOT
HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS THAT, UM,
I HAVE UM AND MORE THAN HAPPY TO
DO SO. UH, THEREFORE I'M JUST
ASKING FOR THIS BILL TO
CONTINUE. UH, TO BE QUITE FRANK.
UM I HAVE BEEN VERY DISAPPOINTED
IN THE LACK OF DISCUSSION PEOPLE
ARE WILLING TO HAVE ABOUT SUCH A
SERIOUS ISSUE. UM I DON'T KNOW
IF IT'S BECAUSE HOPING THAT THE
LACK OF DISCUSSION WILL JUST END
A BILL. UH, BUT I THINK, UH,
MANY OF YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S NOT
ENOUGH FOR ME. UH, THIS
LEGISLATIVE PROCESS IS MEANT TO
HAVE THOUGHTFUL DISCUSSION. AND
IT'S MEANT TO STRENGTHEN POLICY.
AND IT'S MY HOPE THAT THIS
COMMITTEE WILL ALLOW ME TO DO SO
, UH, BECAUSE OUR COMMUNITIES
DESERVE BETTER AND CERTAINLY MY
DISTRICT DESERVE BETTER. AND SO
I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN I VOTE
TO CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION.
THANK YOU, MR JACKSON. ANY
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT OR PERSONS
IN THE HEARING ROOM WHO WOULD
LIKE TO REGISTER THEIR SUPPORT?
MELISSA ROMERO, CALIFORNIA
ENVIRONMENTAL VOTERS. STRONG
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. A COMMITTEE
KYLE FARRAR, UM, PROGRAM
DIRECTOR OF F TRACKER ALLIANCE
AND STRONG SUPPORT AS WELL.
THANK YOU. ANY WITNESSES OR
PERSONS IN OPPOSITION.
WHENEVER YOU'RE READY, MR CHAIR
MEMBERS, BRENDAN TU ON BEHALF OF
THE CALIFORNIA AIR POLLUTION
CONTROL OFFICERS ASSOCIATION. SO
THAT'S THE EXECUTIVE OFFICERS.
UH AIR POLLUTION CONTROL
OFFICERS FROM ALL 35 LOCAL AIR
DISTRICTS, AND, UH, WE HAVE A
RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION. UH,
POSITION ON THIS ON THIS MEASURE
. UH, WE SINCERELY APPRECIATE
THE AUTHORS, UM, INTEREST IN AIR
QUALITY AND CARING ABOUT IT IN
THE IN PASSION. WE ARE, UH, AT
OUR CORE PUBLIC HEALTH AGENCIES
AND WE CERTAINLY, UM UH, ARE
DOING ALL WE CAN TO AND LEAVING
NÓ STONE UNTURNED TO TRY TO
CLEAN THE AIR? UM, UNFORTUNATELY
, WE DON'T THINK THAT THIS
PARTICULAR MEASURE WILL HELP
MOVE US FORWARD IN THOSE GOALS.
AND THAT'S BECAUSE, UM YOU KNOW,
UNDER UNDER CURRENT LAWS, THE
AUTHOR MENTIONED CARB ALREADY
DESIGNATES AIR BASINS BASED ON
SIMILAR GEOGRAPHY AND ALSO
METEOROLOGICAL CONDITIONS, AND
IT ALSO SETS OUT THE
REQUIREMENTS FOR OUR AIR QUALITY
WILL BE REGULATED IN THOSE
BASINS AND THEN WITHIN THE
CURRENT STRUCTURE, CARB AND THE
LOCAL AIR DISTRICTS ALREADY
PARTNER CLOSELY ON DEVELOPING
AND IMPLEMENTING MOBILE AND
STATIONARY SOURCE PROGRAMS THAT
REDUCE AIR POLLUTION AND IMPROVE
AIR QUALITY FOR ALL AREAS OF
CALIFORNIA, INCLUDING VALLEYS.
UM, THESE PROGRAMS ARE IN CO
ORDINATION WITH AND UNDER THE
OVERSIGHT OF THE U S¼ EPA TO
ENSURE THEY MEET THE FEDERAL
CLEAN AIR ACT REQUIREMENTS. UM,
WE'VE ALSO MADE TREMENDOUS
PROGRESS. AS FAR AS AS FAR AS
CLEANING UP THE AIR GOES, UH,
BUT CERTAINLY, UH, WE STILL FACE
SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGES, AND
THERE'S NÓ DOUBT ABOUT THAT, UM,
IN MANY AREAS OF THE STATE, UM
AND IT'S BECAUSE OF THESE
CHALLENGES THAT CALIFORNIA UM
HAS THE MOST STRINGENT
REGULATIONS IN THE COUNTRY. UM
BUT AGAIN THAT BEING SAID
THERE'S MORE MORE WE CAN DO AND
WE'RE MAKING EVERY EFFORT TO DO
THAT, UM IT'S JUST THAT WHILE
WELL INTENDED, UM THIS BILL,
UNFORTUNATELY WILL, UH WELL
ACTUALLY COULD SLOW PROGRESS IN
MEETING THOSE GOALS BECAUSE IT
ADDS COMPLEXITY. UM AND SO, UM,
FOR THIS PARTICULAR MEASURE,
WE'RE IN OPPOSITION. I MEAN,
THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE BELIEVE
CAN BE DONE TO HELP. YOU KNOW,
UH, IMPROVE AIR QUALITY FASTER.
THOSE ARE THINGS LIKE WE'VE BEEN
ACTIVE SUPPORTERS WHERE THERE
ARE EVERY TIME ON THE A B 617
COMMUNITY AIR PROTECTION PROGRAM
TO GET MORE FUNDING FOR THAT
PROGRAM SO THAT MORE COMMUNITIES
CAN REALIZE IMPROVE PUBLIC
HEALTH. UM WE'RE ACTIVELY
WORKING ON THE FARMER PROGRAM
AND GETTING MORE FUNDING FOR
THAT. WHICH IS CLEANING UP DIRTY
DIESEL. UH, AG EQUIP. UM WE
ADMINISTER THE KARL MOYER
PROGRAM. ANOTHER INCENTIVE
PROGRAM THAT IS VERY FOCUSED ON
DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES AND
MAKING PROGRESS IN THOSE
COMMUNITIES AND CLEANING UP THE
AIR. AND SO WE ARE DOING THE
HARD WORK THE BOOTS ON THE
GROUND, AND WE ACKNOWLEDGE THERE
CERTAINLY IS A PROBLEM THERE. UH
A AND MORE NEEDS TO BE DONE. UH,
AND WE WOULD LOVE TO PARTNER IN
THAT AND TRYING TO, YOU KNOW,
GET MORE INCENTIVE DOLLARS SO WE
CAN SPEED UP THIS THIS
IMPROVEMENT ANYWAY. APPRECIATE
ALL THE TIME AND INDULGENCE FROM
THE CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE AND THE AUTHOR. AND BY
THE WAY, WE DID REACH OUT TO THE
AUTHOR'S OFFICE EARLY AND WE'VE
HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH THE
AUTHOR'S OFFICE, SO I JUST
WANTED TO PUT THAT ON THE
RECORD. THANK YOU. UM, ANY, UH
OTHER FOLKS IN THE HEARING ROOM
WHO WOULD LIKE TO REGISTER
OPPOSITION? CHAIR MEMBERS DEAN
TALLEY WITH THE CALIFORNIA
MANUFACTURERS AND TECHNOLOGY
ASSOCIATION. WE DON'T HAVE AN
OFFICIAL OPPOSED POSITION. WE
SIMPLY CONCERNED AT THIS POINT.
WE NEED TO FLESH OUT THE IMPACTS
TOWARDS OUR MEMBERS. THANK YOU.
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. BARRA
CAN THANK YOU, MR CHAIR, AND MR
JACKSON. SO AS YOU KNOW, MISTER
JACKSON. I REPRESENT THE TRI
VALLEY, WHICH IS THE MAIN
TRUCKING CORRIDOR FROM THE PORT
IN OAKLAND TO THE FIVE THAT
VALLEY LIKE YOUR VALLEY. I'M
SURE COLLECTS ALL OF THAT.
TRAFFIC AND AIR POLLUTION OFTEN
MAKES THE LIST OF THE WORST AIR
QUALITY IN THE STATE THAT BEING
SAID NOT ALL AIR DISTRICTS IN
THE STATE ARE CREATED EQUAL,
RIGHT? I'M IN THE BAY AREA AIR
QUALITY MANAGEMENT DISTRICT.
THERE IS TRUST IN OUR AIR
DISTRICT. UM AND ALTHOUGH THE
PROBLEM IS NOT SOLVED, I THINK
THAT CONSTITUENTS FEEL
RIGHTFULLY SO DIFFERENTLY THAN
YOURS DO AND SO MY CONCERN HERE
IS THAT YOU ARE 100% RIGHT IN
EVERYTHING YOU SAID. I DON'T
DISAGREE WITH ANY OF IT RIGHT.
BUT MY CONCERN IS THAT WE ARE
TAKING A PARTICULAR PROBLEM AND
THEN APPLYING IN PLACES WHERE WE
MAY NOT SEE BETTER RESULTS,
RIGHT? BECAUSE YOU'RE A DISTRICT
IS DIFFERENT THAN MY DISTRICT.
AND CURRENTLY THERE'S A
DIFFERENTIATION THERE AND SO I
AM CONCERNED ABOUT ABOUT THAT,
BECAUSE I HAVE THE SAME PROBLEMS
YOU HAVE, AND I, BUT RIGHT NOW
WE AREN'T IN NEED OF THIS FIX
THAT BEING SAID. YOU KNOW? I DO
WANT TO ADDRESS THE OPPOSITION
HERE, WHICH IS TO SAY THAT WE
HAVE ALL THESE INCENTIVE
PROGRAMS AND SO YOU'RE JUST
GONNA KEEP SUPPORTING THE
INCENTIVE PROGRAMS, I THINK IS
VERY DISMISSIVE OF WHAT THE
AUTHOR IS FOCUSED ON HERE, WHICH
IS THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF HIS
COMMUNITY. AND WE EACH AND EVERY
ONE OF US IS ELECTED FIRST AND
FOREMOST, TO PROTECT THE HEALTH
AND SAFETY OF OUR COMMUNITIES.
THAT IS THE JOB THAT WE WERE
ELECTED TO DO, AND I THINK THAT
HAVING BEEN A FORMER
ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATORY LAWYER.
I KNOW THAT INCENTIVES ARE GREAT
, BUT SOMETIMES THEY DON'T WORK
AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE REGULATION.
THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE THE
DYNAMIC. AND SO I THINK THAT
JUST SAYING WE WANT TO SUPPORT
MORE INCENTIVES IS AN
INSUFFICIENT ANSWER. AND I DO
THINK I MEAN, PERSONALLY, I
THINK A DIFFERENT ANSWER IS
NEEDED BECAUSE I DO THINK YOU
KNOW, WE'RE PAINTING WITH A
BROAD BRUSH HERE IN WAYS THAT
IMPACT DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE
STATE DIFFERENTLY, SO I
PERSONALLY DO THINK A DIFFERENT
SOLUTION ACTUALLY IS NEEDED. BUT
I'M REALLY NOT SATISFIED WITH
THE SOLUTIONS YOU PROVIDED. MM.
MAN MR CHAIR. I MEAN, THANK YOU
SO MUCH. I MEAN, I DON'T I DON'T
WANT MY POINT TO BE LOST. I
DIDN'T SAY ONLY INCENTIVES. I
MEAN, WE ARE AIR DISTRICTS, AND
IT DEPENDS ON YOU KNOW,
ATTAINMENT STATUS AND WHAT'S
HAPPENING IN THAT PARTICULAR AIR
DISTRICTS BUT ARE VERY
AGGRESSIVE WHEN IT COMES TO
REGULATIONS, SO I WE CERTAINLY,
UH BELIEVE THAT YOU NEED TO
HAVE, UH, STRONG REGULATIONS,
AND THAT IS A HUGE COMPONENT. IN
ALL OF THIS. I WAS SIMPLY
POINTING OUT THAT THERE'S A WE
CAN ALSO DO INCENTIVES AS WELL.
BUT I JUST THINK THAT THIS
MEASURE THE WAY IT'S CONSTRUCTED
THAT THAT'S THE PROBLEM IS, I
DON'T THINK IT WILL REALIZE THAT
THAT IMPROVED AIR QUALITY AND WE
ARE. WE DO HAVE A CURRENT
STRUCTURE IN PLACE THAT, UH,
ALLOWS FOR REGULATION AND
AGGRESSIVE REGULATION AND I
DON'T WANT TO BE LOST. I'M NOT
TRYING TO. YOU WANT TO RESPOND
AS WELL. I'M NOT TRYING TO BE
DISMISSIVE IN ANY WAY, YOU KNOW
ABSOLUTELY. UM MY DEAR COLLEAGUE
. UH ACTUALLY, UM, WHEN ARE OUR
OFFICES WERE TALKING? THEY
ACTUALLY MENTIONED THAT AND FOR
ME, I WAS LIKE OH, WELL, I GUESS
THAT THAT IS THAT IS MAKES SENSE
. UM SO IT'S MY INTENTION TO UM
SHRINK THE SCHOOL. TO ENSURE
THAT IT DOESN'T INTERFERE WITH
OTHER PLACES THAT MAY NOT HAVE
THE SAME CONCERNS. UM OR
ACTUALLY, MAYBE WELL AHEAD IN
TERMS OF AH, BOTH RELATIONSHIPS,
CREDIBILITY AND ADVANCEMENTS. UH
I THINK MOST OF YOU KNOW ON THIS
COMMITTEE THAT ACTUALLY ENJOY
THE POLICY MAKING EXPERIENCE
THROUGH DIALOG AND BACK AND
FORTH AND BEING ABLE TO PUT
THINGS ON THE TABLE AND ALL
THOSE THINGS. UM AND SO THAT'S
WHY I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE
WITH THIS PROCESS TO ACTUALLY
GET TO WHERE I THINK WE CAN BE.
I MEAN, I'M NOT. I DON'T THINK
I'M GOING TO BE 100% SATISFIED
EITHER BY THE END OF THIS
PROCESS. BUT I OWE IT TO MY
CONSTITUENTS TO GIVE IT ALL I
GOT. YEAH MR VICE CHAIR, AND SO
THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO GO.
SURE SO I APPRECIATE THAT. AND I
THINK THAT YOU KNOW, THE MODEL I
HAD IN MY HEAD FOR SOMETHING
THAT MIGHT WORK IS SORT OF WHAT
WE DO TO OUR SCHOOLS WHEN THEY
FAIL, RIGHT THAT YOU HAVE TO
SORT OF HIT A FAILING METRIC
BEFORE THE STATE COMES IN AND
TAKES OVER RIGHT, AND SO WHERE
THE AIR QUALITY DISTRICT IS
DOING A GOOD JOB. I DON'T THINK
IT MAKES SENSE FOR CARB TO COME
IN RIGHT WITH THOSE STATIONARY
SOURCES, BUT IN YOUR COMMUNITY
WHERE THEY ARE FAILING RIGHT,
THEN MAYBE THERE IS A METRIC
THAT ALLOWS CARB TO COME IN AND
SUPPLANT OF FAILING AIR DISTRICT
OR SOMETHING OF THAT SORT,
BECAUSE I DO THINK YOU DESERVE
SO MUCH MORE IN YOUR COMMUNITY.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WHERE
THE SYSTEM TODAY IS WORKING. IT
IS ALLOWED TO CONTINUE TO WORK
AND I THINK WE CAN GET THERE. SO
THANK YOU. ABSOLUTELY, FLORA.
THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. THANK YOU
FOR CALLING FOR BRINGING US
FORWARD AND I JUST WANT TO THANK
THE OPPOSITION. I JUST WANT TO
SAY YOU FROM MY EXPERIENCE WITH
WORKING WITH CARVED AND YOU KNOW
OUR AIR RESOURCES BOARD. UM
NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, 17 WAS CAP
AND TRADE. AND WORKING WITH THEM
ON A VERY LARGE PIECE OF
LEGISLATION THAT DEALT A LOT
WITH THEIR QUALITY. THE FARMER
PROGRAM WAS MENTIONED CARL MOYER
BY THE FIRST REALLY YEAR YEAR
AND A HALF OF THAT PROGRAM
WASN'T PARTICULARLY SUCCESSFUL.
IT WAS JUST TOO CLUNKY, RIGHT?
I'M THE CONSTITUENTS DIDN'T
REALLY BUY INTO IT. IT'S JUST
THERE WAS A LOT OF PAPERWORK.
BUT WHEN CARB AND SAMIR WHO IS
MY, YOU KNOW, CENTRAL VALLEY AIR
RESOURCES CONTROLLED GUY IN A
VERY GOOD FRIEND OF MINE WHEN WE
RAISE THESE CONCERNS WITH THEM,
THEY WERE VERY, VERY QUICK TO
FIX THEM AND COME TO THE TABLE
AND IT HAS IN PLACE. WE'VE
SUCCEEDED. THE GOALS OF CARB.
YEARS QUICKER THAN WHAT THEY
ANTICIPATED. AND SO FOR ME, IT
WAS JUST AN ABSOLUTE SUCCESS OF
WORKING WITH THEM. AND SO I
WOULD HAVE I I'M GONNA LAY OFF
THIS BILL TODAY. JUST BECAUSE I
SHARE MY CONCERNS MY COLLEAGUE
LIKE THE CENTRAL VALLEY, RIGHT?
THAT'S THAT'S OUR AREA. WE HAVE
A GOOD THING GOING ON. AND WE
RESPECT AND TRUST OUR PEOPLE
BELIEVING ME. THERE'S THINGS
THAT I DON'T PARTICULARLY LOVE
AT TIMES, BUT WE HAVE A GOOD
THING GOING ON. AND SO FOR.
THAT'S THE ONLY REASON I WOULD
JUST ENCOURAGE YOU AND I KNOW
YOU'RE YOU DO LOVE THE PROCESS,
RIGHT? AND SO I KNOW YOU WILL.
BUT IF YOU IDENTIFY THE ISSUE
AND WORK WITH CARD IN MY
EXPERIENCE, THEY'VE BEEN VERY,
VERY OPEN MINDED TO DEALING WITH
THINGS WITH A PARTICULAR
COMMUNITY BECAUSE THEY SURE DID
IT FOR MINE. AND SO I JUST
WANTED TO GIVE YOU THAT
ENCOURAGEMENT. NO ABSOLUTELY. I
WANT TO. I WANT TO THANK YOU.
UM, UM FOR THAT, YOU KNOW, I'VE
ASKED ANYONE AND I'VE ASKED
THAT, UM, OPPOSITION AS WELL,
YOU KNOW? WELL, DO YOU HAVE ANY
OTHER SUGGESTIONS? WE HAVEN'T
RECEIVED ANY YET. I'M NOT SURE
IF YOU'RE STILL WORKING ON THEM
OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE, BUT THE
IDEA IS, I WELCOME IT. UH BUT
THAT TO DO ANYTHING ISN'T ALSO
NOT ACCEPTABLE AS WELL. UM AND
SO YOU KNOW, WE WILL CONTINUE TO
DO THAT. UM AND I MEAN, OF
COURSE, I DON'T BRING CHEN TO
THE FLOOR EITHER. AND SO I WANT
TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM PEOPLE
UNDERSTAND THAT WE WILL CONTINUE
TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS CONTINUE TO
WORK THROUGH THE DETAILS TO
MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE
COMFORTABLE AND RESPECT THE
DIFFERENCES OF EACH OF YOUR
DISTRICTS. OKAY THANK YOU, MR
CHAIR, UH, AS A FORMER CHAIR OF
THE VERY AIR QUALITY MANAGEMENT
DISTRICT, APPRECIATE MY BARRIER
COLLEAGUE FOR RECOGNIZING
BROKEBACK MAN REALLY WAS TALKING
ABOUT YOU. IT DOES OFTEN TIMES,
BUT YOU'RE RIGHT. NOT ALL THE
AIR DISTRICTS OF THE SAME. AND
SOME LIKE BACH MED, YOU KNOW,
OFTENTIMES LEAD THE NATION IN
TERMS OF REGULATIONS PUT IN
PLACE AND THAT'S WHY WE AIR
QUALITY IS VERY DIFFERENT NOW
THAN IT WAS BACK IN 1980. UH
WHEN I WAS A KID GROWING UP IN
SAN JOSE THAT BEING SAID THERE
ARE PORTIONS OF OUR STATE,
CENTRAL VALLEY AND OTHER
PORTIONS THAT RANK IS THE WORST
ARE AMONGST THE WORST AIR
QUALITY IN THE NATION. UM AND I
APPLAUD THE AUTHOR FOR TREATING
THIS AS THE CRISIS THAT IT IS
AND THAT TO OUR COLLEAGUES POINT
LOOK, ULTIMATELY AS YOU GO
FORWARD AND PUT SOME IN
GUARDRAILS OR METRICS IN PLACE
THAT RECOGNIZE THOSE THAT ARE
YOU KNOW THAT THERE ARE ARE MORE
EFFECTIVE IN THEIR WORK AND
COMPARED TO OTHERS. THAT'S
FANTASTIC. AND SO I HAVE FULL
FAITH IN THE AUTHOR TO BE ABLE
TO DO THAT AND ENCOURAGE
CONTINUED DIALOGUE ON THAT, AND
I'M HAPPY TO MAKE THE MOTION TO
MOST OF MY MR KARA. QUESTION.
COMMENT BY MR WOOD. THANK YOU,
UM YOU KNOW, I HAVE I WOULD
INTERESTING. PROBABLY A VERY
DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE ON ON AIR
QUALITY MANAGEMENT DISTRICT AND
HOW MY DISTRICT WORKS. UM WE
HAVE I WORRY THAT CHANGES LIKE
THIS POTENTIALLY LEAD OVER INTO
CHALLENGES THAT WE ALREADY
FACING OUR WITH SOME OF OUR AIR
QUALITY MANAGEMENT DISTRICT, FOR
EXAMPLE. WE ARE DESPERATE TO TRY
TO GET MORE CONTROLLED BURNS
PRESCRIBED BURNS IN OUR
DISTRICTS. AND SOME OF THOSE ARE
IN VALLEYS. UM NOW I KNOW YOU'RE
TALKING ABOUT STATIONARY SOURCES
HERE, BUT I WORRY ABOUT THE
CHALLENGES. THAT WE HAVE THERE.
WE GENERALLY ENJOY AND MOST OF
MY DISTRICT VERY CLEAN AIR
EXCEPT WHEN WE HAVE FIRES. MM
AND THE FRUSTRATION THAT I HAVE,
AND I KNOW SOME OF THE FOLKS
THAT ARE TRYING TO DO PRESCRIBED
BURNS IN MY DISTRICT HAVE IS
THAT, UM WHAT FEELS IN MANY
CASES LIKE IN MANY TIMES AND
INTOLERANCE TO ANY SMOKE AT ALL
IN THE AIR, UM AND UNDER
CERTAIN, EVEN AND THE CONDITIONS
AND THE TIMING TO DO A
PRESCRIBED BURN, GET NARROWER
AND NARROWER AND NARROWER AND
ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE FOR SOME FOR
SOME, THAT ADDED TO THE FACT
THAT EVERY AIR QUALITY
MANAGEMENT DISTRICT CHARGES A
DIFFERENT FEE. FOR CONTROLLED
BURNS AND PRESCRIBED BURNS,
WHICH IS CRAZY FROM MY
PERSPECTIVE FROM 0 2000, PLUS
DOLLARS, UM AND I GO BACK TO THE
PREMISES. WOULDN'T WE RATHER
HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF SMOKE IN
THE AIR THAT A MASSIVE WILDFIRE?
UM SMOKE THAT THAT WHEN THAT
HAPPENS, THEN ALL OF MY
COLLEAGUES IN THE BAY AREA ARE
UPSET ABOUT THAT, YOU KNOW, AND
I GET IT BECAUSE WE HAVE TO
BREATHE IT. WE BREATHE IT FOR
WEEKS AT A TIME, AND WE'VE BEEN
LUCKY THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS,
SO MY CONCERN IS LIKE I DON'T
WANT THINGS THAT ANYTHING I AM
CONCERNED ALREADY. YEAH AND I
DON'T WANT SOMETHING. YEAH, I
DON'T AS YOU AS YOU MOVE FORWARD
WITH THIS BILL, AND I'M GONNA
SUPPORT OF SUPPORT YOU TODAY.
UM, BARON. MIND THAT YOU KNOW,
SOME PARTS OF THE STATE ARE
VERY, VERY DIFFERENT FROM YOUR
DISTRICT, AND I DON'T WANT TO
SEE SOMETHING THAT POTENTIALLY
CREATES A BIGGER CHALLENGE FOR
THINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO
ACTUALLY WORK ON TO PROTECT THE
HEALTH AND SAFETY. OF OUR
CONSTITUENTS AND GOING FORWARD,
SO OKAY? FRIEDMAN. THANKS SO I
FIRST WANT TO THANK THE AUTHOR
FOR BRINGING SOMETHING THAT'S
FAIRLY BOLD FORWARD AND TO THE
VERY LEAST RAISING MORE OF THE
PROFILE OF THE ISSUE IN YOUR
DISTRICT, BECAUSE, UM, WHETHER
OR NOT THIS IS THE RIGHT
SOLUTION, MAKING SURE THAT
PEOPLE AND STAKEHOLDERS ARE MORE
AWARE OF THE ISSUE. AND UM
REALLY, YOU KNOW, HIGHLIGHTING
THAT, THROUGH THESE DISCUSSIONS
IS VERY IMPORTANT. YOU KNOW,
I'VE BEEN LISTENING WITH
INTEREST TO THE DISCUSSION. AND
I DO THINK THAT MY COLLEAGUE
FROM ORINDA BRINGS UP AN
INTERESTING POINT ABOUT HAVING
METRICS ASSIGNED TO THIS. UM UH
AND I, YOU KNOW, I'M ALWAYS IN
FAVOR OF HAVING OUR AGENCIES
HAVE TO HAVE METRICS AND MAKING
SURE THAT THERE'S ACCOUNTABILITY
IN TERMS OF WHATEVER THEY'RE
DOING. UM BUT I AM CURIOUS, AND
I'M GOING TO ASK BECAUSE IT
SEEMS LIKE THAT THERE. YOU KNOW,
WE HAVEN'T WE HAVE CARVED, YOU
KNOW, TALKING ABOUT THAT THEY
HAVE INCENTIVES, AND THEY ALSO
HAVE REGULATIONS AND THEY HAVE
THE ABILITY UNDER THE LAW TO
REGULATE AS WE'VE ALL SEEN
THROUGH, YOU KNOW? OUR OWN
DISTRICTS. AND YOU KNOW, WE'VE
WE'VE ALL GOTTEN THE CALLS OF,
YOU KNOW, AN ENTITY HAVING
CARVED COME DOWN ON THEM AND
HAVE THAT ENTITY THAT BUSINESS
COME AND COMPLAIN TO US. SO YOU
KNOW, WE SEE THAT THEY ARE
ACTIVE, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE YOU
KNOW YOU HAVE A DISTRICT THAT'S
PARTICULARLY IMPACTED BECAUSE OF
HIPAA, GRAFFITI AND OTHER THINGS
AND ALSO BECAUSE OF INDUSTRIAL
USES, SO GIVEN THAT THEY DO THAT
THEY ARE REGULATORS. IS THERE?
ARE THERE SPECIFIC EXAMPLES OF
WHERE YOU FEEL? THE REGULATIONS
ARE FALLING SHORT THAT YOU FEEL
IS REALLY, UH, LEADING TO THE
NEED FOR SOME SORT OF STATE
PREEMPTION. UM YOU KNOW, I THINK
IT WOULD HELP US ALL UNDERSTAND
WHAT YOU'RE GETTING AT. IF YOU
KNOW IF THERE IS THIS GAP OR
THIS DELTA, BESIDES THE FACT
THAT THE AIR QUALITY STILL SUCKS
. YOU KNOW, IF YOU FEEL LIKE,
HEY, YOU'VE GONE TO THEM AND
YOU'VE SAID YOU NEED TO TAKE
STRONGER ACTION WITH X Y AND C
TYPE OF FACILITY OR PARTICULAR
FACILITIES. THEY'RE NOT DOING
THAT. I THINK IT WOULD BE
HELPFUL FOR US TO HEAR THAT. AND
TO UNDERSTAND THAT NO,
ABSOLUTELY. YOU KNOW YOU YOU'VE
SEEN MANY OF MY COLLEAGUES. UM
REPRESENTING THE INLAND EMPIRE
COME WITH ITS OF VARIOUS OTHER
SOLUTIONS. YOU KNOW, SOME FOCUS
ON THE WAREHOUSES. UM BEFORE
WHEN WE CAME BACK INTO SESSION.
I HAD A BILL TO CONTINUE TO
SUPPORT. UH THE TRUCKING PROGRAM
TO HELP TRUCKERS TO RETROFIT
THEIR TRUCKS BECAUSE WE KNOW IF
THERE'S CLEANER TRUCKS. IT'LL
HELP OUR DISTRICT. YOU KNOW OUR
REGION AS WELL. SO YOU KNOW,
I'VE BEEN TRYING TO BE A
CHAMPION ON THAT, TOO. UM I
REALLY THINK AND WHAT WHAT I'VE
SEEN IS THAT AND WHEN I REALLY
ASK CARB, OR I ASKED A Q M. D
YOU KNOW WHAT? TELL ME. WHAT
SPECIFIC REGULATIONS YOU HAVE.
THAT ARE REALLY SPECIFIC TO
VALLEYS. AND THERE'S NOT REALLY
ANY THEY CAN'T POINT TO A
PARTICULAR REGULATION. AND SO
NUMBER ONE. I KNOW I'M NOT A
SCIENTIST, SO I DON'T I DON'T
KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE ANSWER IS,
BUT I KNOW I WANT TO MAKE SURE
THE BEST THAT WE HAVE DO TAKE A
LOOK AT IT AND THEN REPORT BACK
AT LEAST ON WHAT CAN BE DONE SO
THAT WE CAN HOLD PEOPLE
ACCOUNTABLE FOR THAT. SO I SAID,
IF THIS BILL PASSED AND I'LL
JUST MAKE THIS MY LAST QUESTION
I KNOW WE'RE SHORT ON TIME. AND
I AM GOING TO SUPPORT THIS
TODAY. BUT I GUESS WHAT I WOULD
WONDER IS, LET'S SAY THIS PASSES
AND FOUR YEARS DOWN THE ROAD.
WHAT ACTUALLY IS HAPPENING
DIFFERENTLY, YOU KNOW IS IT IS
IT THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN THE
WAREHOUSES CAN'T OPEN BECAUSE
THEY HAVE A REGULAR? WHAT WHAT
CHANGE, DO YOU WHAT SPECIFIC
REAL WORLD CHANGE. WOULD YOU
ENVISION IF THIS PAST? YEAH. YOU
KNOW, I HAVE. I HAVEN'T NUMBER
ONE THAT WE BEGIN TO. BRING DOWN
THE LEVEL. UM OF AIR POLLUTION.
UM QUICKER THAN WHAT WE'RE
DOING. UH AGAIN. WE ARE WITH
THAT ONE OF THE EPICENTERS, IF
NOT THE OF THE GOODS MOVEMENT.
SO THAT YOU KNOW, THE RATE OF IT
KIND OF GOING DOWN IS BEING
ECLIPSED BY THE RATE OF AS MUCH
POLLUTION THAT'S BEING CREATED.
UM BUT MY GOAL REALLY IS TO
BRING DOWN QUICKER. AH THE RATE
OF PARTICULATE MATTER THAT IS
GOING INTO OUR AIR AND REALLY
STAYING AND BEING TRAPPED IN OUR
COMMUNITIES. MY WHOLE DISTRICT
IS IN VALLEYS. I MEAN, I JUST
YOU KNOW, AND WHEN YOU DO THAT,
I REMEMBER AS A KID. WE THERE
WERE MULTIPLE DAYS DURING THE
SUMMER. YOU CAN'T GO ON THE
PLAYGROUND BECAUSE THEIR QUALITY
IS SO BAD. RIGHT I MEAN, THAT'S
THE STUFF THAT WE'RE DEALING
WITH. BUT I KNOW WITHIN ONE
THING FOR SURE THE WORST THING
WE CAN DO, AND THAT'S WHY I
APPRECIATE MY COLLEAGUES.
PARTICULARLY IN THE CENTRAL
VALLEY IS THAT WE DO KNOW THAT A
COOKIE CUTTER APPROACH IS NOT
THE ANSWER, EITHER. AND SO IT'S
GONNA BE MY INTENT TO MAKE SURE
THAT IT'S BASED UPON THE
REALITIES THAT I'M EXPERIENCING.
AND THAT MY RESIDENTS ARE
EXPERIENCING. BUT AGAIN, MAKING
SURE THAT WE ARE TAKING A LOOK
AT ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING THAT WE
CAN DO. TO BE ABLE TO MAKE IT
HAPPEN, AND THEN AT THE END OF
THE DAY YOU KNOW, WE CAN TAKE
MAKE OUR DECISIONS FROM THERE,
BUT I'M NOT TRYING TO PICK
WINNERS OR LOSERS. AND IN TERMS
OF THIS, I JUST WANT TO MAKE
SURE THAT RESIDENTS ARE ARE
ASSURED. THAT WE ARE DOING
EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN TO BE
HELPFUL. MR. JACKSON CAN I TAKE
THAT AS YOUR CLOTHES? AMEN. UM
MY FAVORITE VALLEY IN THE STATE
IS IN YOUR DISTRICT, MARINO
VALLEY WHERE I WENT TO MY FIRST
HIGH SCHOOL AND I REMEMBER
PLAYING FOOTBALL THERE MY
FRESHMAN YEAR AND THE HOMECOMING
GAME WAS CANCELED BECAUSE OF THE
AIR QUALITY OR MOVED POSTPONED.
I SHOULD SAY I APPRECIATE YOUR
EFFORTS. I RECOGNIZE YOUR
EFFORTS. UM I KNOW THAT THE
LEGISLATIVE PROCESS CAN BE
ARDUOUS. BUT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT
YOU RESPECT THAT FULL PROCESS.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS
BILL GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
AND SO IT ENJOYS A DO PASS
RECOMMENDATION FROM ME. DO WE
HAVE A MOTION? KARA MADE A
MOTION. WE NEED A SECOND.
PELLERIN WITH THE SECOND MADAM
SECRETARY, CAN WE CALL THE ROLL?
THE PROMOTION IS DO PASS THROUGH
APPROPRIATIONS. BRIAN BRIAN, I
FLORA. OR NOT VOTING BAUER-KAHAN
BAUER-KAHAN I, FRIEDMAN
FRIEDMAN, I HOOVER HOOVER. NO
CHOLERA. CHOLERA I. MATHIS
MATHIS. NO. MARTUCCI MURATSUCHI.
AYE, PELLERIN AND I WICKS, I
WOULD WOULD I. THAT BILL IS OUT.
THANK YOU, MR JACKSON. ALRIGHT
WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, JUST, UH
UNDER 15 MINUTES LEFT, AND ALL
OF THE REMAINING BILLS ARE BEING
PRESENTED BY MEMBERS OF THIS
COMMITTEE IN WITH THAT, MR
MURATSUCHI. WOULD YOU LIKE TO
PRESENT 2285 RENDON? I LIED TO
SPEAKER PRO TIM IS HERE AND SO
WE DON'T START UNTIL BUT MR
MURATSUCHI WHENEVER YOU'RE
READY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR
CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE.
I'M PRESENTING THIS BILL, MAYBE
20 TO 85 ON BEHALF OF SPEAKER
EMERITUS. RENDON LIKE TO BEGIN
BY ACCEPTING THE AMENDMENTS
RECOMMENDED COMMENT. NUMBER SIX
OF THE COMMITTEE ANALYSIS. THIS
BILL. IT'S A GOOD BILL. IT'S
ALSO IT'S EMPHASIZING THE
IMPORTANCE OF CONSERVING LAND
AND HIGHLY URBANIZED AREAS. I
HAVE A WITNESS IN SUPPORT OF THE
BILL. MR WITNESS, YOU MAY BEGIN.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MR CHAIR AND
MEMBERS DOUG HOUSTON REPRESENTED
CALIFORNIA PARK AND RECREATION
OF SOCIETY. NOW THIS BILL IS
TAKING ITS CUE FROM THE FINDINGS
OF THE FIRST PARTNERS OUTDOOR
FOR ALL INITIATIVE. AND THE
SPILL SEEKS TO ELEVATE THE
AWARENESS AROUND THE IMPORTANCE
OF CONTINUED INVESTMENT IN
REDUCING NATURE, POVERTY IN OUR
URBAN AREAS AND URGING YOUR
SUPPORT. ABSOLUTELY AH, ANY
OTHER WITNESSES IN THE ROOM
WOULD LIKE TO REGISTER THEIR
SUPPORT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE
SURE THAT PEOPLE CAN BE HEARD ON
BEHALF OF THE COUNTY OF LOS
ANGELES AND SUPPORT BEAUTIFUL
NICHOLAS MAZARI ON BEHALF OF
CALIFORNIA STATE PARKS
FOUNDATION AND SUPPORT IS THERE
ANY OPPOSITION OF ANY KIND
ANYWHERE IN THIS ROOM? SAYING
NONE QUESTIONS, COMMENTS BY
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. MOTION BY
BAUER-KAHAN. SECOND BY MR WOULD,
MADAM SECRETARY, CAN WE CALL THE
ROLL? THE MOTION IS DUE PASS AS
AMENDED TO WATER PARKS AND
WILDLIFE. BRIAN BRIAN I FLORA
FLORA BAUER-KAHAN BAUER-KAHAN I.
FRIEDMAN FRIEDMAN I HOOVER
HOOVER I KALRA MATHIS MATHIS. I
MERIT SUKI. SUKI, I PELLERIN WIX
WIX. I WOULD WOULD I. FREEDOM I
WAS GONNA HAVE YOU GO FROM MR
HART, BUT OKAY, YEAH. NO, WE'LL
GO FAST. OH OKAY, BECAUSE YOU'RE
JUST YOU WANT THAT'S WHAT. I
HAVE A SUPER NONCONTROVERSIAL
REALLY EASY BILL FOR MR HART A B
1866. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND
SECONDED THIS BILL ON BEHALF OF
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S HEART ADDRESSES
THE URGENT CLIMATE AND PUBLIC
HEALTH CRISIS OF OIL OF IDLE OIL
WELLS. THE BILL REQUIRES OIL
OPERATORS TO DEVELOP A
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO
EXPEDITIOUSLY PLUGGED THE
ESTIMATED 40,000 IDLE OIL WELLS
IN CALIFORNIA. WE ALL KNOW THIS
IS THIS IS THIS IS A LOOMING
CRISIS. SPECIFICALLY THIS BILL
WILL INCREASE THE PERCENTAGES OF
OIL. I DON'T OIL WELLS THAT
OPERATORS NEED TO PLUG EACH
YEAR. AND ELIMINATES THE OPTION
TO PAY INSIGNIFICANT FEES IN
LIEU OF A PLAN TO PLUG THESE
WELLS. EXCUSE ME. THE BILL ALSO
REQUIRES OPERATORS TO PRIORITIZE
PLUGGING WELLS WITHIN 3200, FT,
OF WHERE COMMUNITIES LIVE, PLAY
AND WORK WITH THAT. BECAUSE I'M
COUGHING AND WE'RE SHORT ON
TIME. I WILL GO TO MY WITNESSES.
GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIRPERSON
BRIAN AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS I'M
HOLLAND, CRAFTSMAN FROM THE
CENTER FOR BIOLOGICAL DIVERSITY,
AND I'VE BEEN WORKING ON
CALIFORNIA OIL AND GAS ISSUES
FOR MORE THAN A DECADE, AND I'VE
SEEN OVER THAT TIME IDLE AND OIL
ORPHAN WELLS. THE PROBLEM
GETTING WORSE YEAR AFTER YEAR,
AND IT'S GROWN INTO THE CRISIS
THAT WE SEE TODAY. UH, WE
PROUDLY SPONSOR A B 1866
CRITICAL BILL THAT WOULD TACKLE
THIS CRISIS HEAD ON. THIS BILL
WOULD PROTECT PUBLIC HEALTH,
CREATE JOBS, FIGHT CLIMATE
CHANGE AND HELP SAFEGUARD OUR
STATE'S BUDGET, A RARE QUADRUPLE
WIN FOR THE STATE. UH HUH. AS
THE ASSEMBLY MEMBER SAID, WE
HAVE ABOUT 40,000 IDLE WELLS IN
CALIFORNIA, ANOTHER 60,000
ACTIVE OIL WELLS THAT WILL
BECOME IDOL IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE, UH, TAKE
CARE OF THESE WELLS THAT ARE A
SERIOUS THREAT TO OUR HEALTH,
ENVIRONMENT AND CLIMATE. JUST IN
THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, THERE
WERE DOZENS OF IDLE WELLS THAT
WERE FOUND LEAKING IN THE
CENTRAL VALLEY. ENDANGERING
NEARBY COMMUNITIES. METHANE WAS
LEAKING AT EXPLOSIVE LEVELS, AS
WE KNOW METHANE LEAKAGE ALSO
THREATENS OUR CLIMATE. TWO
THIRDS OF IDLE WELLS IN
CALIFORNIA ARE LEAKING METHANE,
UNDERCUTTING OUR EFFORTS TO
BATTLE CLIMATE CHANGE. AND
FINALLY IDLE WELLS THREATENED
THE FISCAL STABILITY OF THE
STATE. IT WILL TAKE MORE THAN
$21 BILLION TO PLUG THE OIL AND
GAS WELLS IN THE STATE. AND EVEN
THOUGH IT'S THE INDUSTRY'S
FINANCIAL AND LEGAL
RESPONSIBILITY TO DO THE
PLUGGING IN REALITY, ONLY ABOUT
1% HAS BEEN SET ASIDE IN THE
FORM OF BONDS FROM THE INDUSTRY.
UH MAYBE 1866 IS A HUGE STEP
FORWARD. IT FORCES ALL OPERATORS
TO START THEIR PLUGGING. IT PUTS
THE BIGGEST BURDEN ON THE
LARGEST OPERATORS WHO ARE MORE
THAN ABLE TO AFFORD IT AND WHO
HAVE BENEFITED THE MOST FROM
CALIFORNIA'S LAX STANDARDS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, SIR, IF YOU'D
LIKE SOME TIME FOR THE OTHER
WITNESS, OKAY, I'LL GO PRETTY
QUICK AFTERNOON, TWO PERSON,
BRIAN AND DISTINGUISHED
COMMUNITY MEMBERS. MY NAME IS
KYLE FERRARA IN THE WESTERN
PROGRAM DIRECTOR AT FRAC TRACKER
ALLIANCE. I'M SPEAKING IN
SUPPORT OF 1866 AND WANT TO
OFFER MY EXPERTISE, UM, FOCUSED
ON CALIFORNIA OIL AND GAS
STATISTICS. SO FOR YEARS I'VE
BEEN FOCUSING ON ANALYZING THE
OIL INDUSTRY'S COST OF CLEANUP
AND THE RISK OF IDLE WELLS TO
CALIFORNIA COMMUNITIES AS WELL
AS THE CALIFORNIA BUDGET. SO I
WANT TO WALK YOU THROUGH SOME OF
MY NUMBERS JUST TO SHOW YOU HOW
IMPORTANT A B 6 1866 WILL BE
SUBMITTED MY REPORT TO THE
COMMITTEE AS WELL. THE EMAIL, SO
PLEASE REVIEW THEM AT YOUR
CONVENIENCE OR LET ME KNOW IF
YOU LIKE ME TO REVIEW ANY OF
THOSE FACTS PERSONALLY, SO TO
START, IT'S GOING TO TAKE MORE
THAN $23 BILLION TO PLUG
CALIFORNIA'S UNPLUGGED OIL AND
GAS WELLS. BUT THE INDUSTRY IS
ONLY SET ASIDE A TINY FRACTION
OF FINANCIAL RESOURCES AND BONDS
. BUT A QUART QUARTER OF THAT AT
MOST WILL BE ABLE TO BE SEEN
THROUGH PROFITS OVER THE NEXT
FEW YEARS. UM BUT PRODUCTION IS
DECREASING AND THESE PROPERTIES
ARE GOING TO BE CONTINUED TO BE
DECREASING. WITH THEM. SO
PREDICTIONS SHOW THAT, UM IN
TOTAL. UH OPERATORS WILL NOT BE
ABLE TO COVER EVEN HALF OF THAT
AMOUNT. SO ON TOP OF THAT THE
NUMBER OF IDLE WELLS KEEP GOING
UP. THAT'S BECAUSE UNDER THE
CURRENT LAW OPERATORS CAN PAY A
NOMINAL FEE INSTEAD OF ACTUALLY
PLUGGING THE WELLS. 96% OF THE
OPERATORS OPT OUT OF A PLUGGING
PLAN. THESE IDLE WALL MANAGEMENT
PLANS ONLY 56 OUT OF THE 1200
OPERATORS ACTUALLY CHOSE A PLAN
IN 2021 AND OF THOSE PLANS. UM
THEY ONLY REQUIRE 4 TO 6% OF THE
WELLS TO BE PLUGGED. AND EVEN IF
ALL THE OPERATORS PLUGGED ALL
THE WELLS AT THOSE RATES, IT
WOULD TAKE OVER A CENTURY. BASED
ON OUR ANALYSIS TO PLUG JUST THE
CURRENTLY IDLE WELLS, THE 40,000
WELLS. THERE'S ANOTHER 60,000
OPERATIONAL WELLS THAT AREN'T
EVEN BEING ADDRESSED YET MOST OF
THEM PRODUCING VERY LOW MARGINAL
LEVELS. SO UNDER 1866 OPERATORS
CAN NO LONGER PUT OFF PLUGGING
THESE THESE PLUGGING
REQUIREMENTS AND THEY WILL BE
RAMPED UP TO 10 TO 20. THANK YOU
SO MUCH. ANY OPPOSITION TO THIS
BILL. SUPPORT. BEFORE YOU START.
CAN I? CAN I HEAR THE SUPPORT IN
THE ROOM AS WELL? JUST A FEW
FOLKS I SEE. GOOD AFTERNOON,
CHRISTINA'S KARANJA BEEN ASKED
TO NOTE SUPPORT FROM NEXT 10,
CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL DEFENSE
CENTER AND FOSSIL FREE
CALIFORNIA AND I WON'T LIST.
I'LL JUST REFERENCE THE MORE
THAN 100 ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE
SUBMITTED A LETTER OF SUPPORT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. GOOD
AFTERNOON, KIM STONE STONE
ADVOCACY ON BEHALF OF CONSUMER
WATCHDOG AND ENTHUSIASTIC
SUPPORT. WILL BRING HER ON
BEHALF OF 350, SACRAMENTO,
CLIMATE ACTION CALIFORNIA AND
THE CLIMATE REALITY PROJECT,
CALIFORNIA COALITION AND
SUPPORT. BARBARA BEANO ON BEHALF
OF 350 BAY AREA ACTION IN STRONG
SUPPORT. RENA COHEN WITH CAL
PERK STUDENTS IN SUPPORT. DR
BONNIE HAMILTON'S WITH
PHYSICIANS FOR SOCIAL
RESPONSIBILITY, BAY AREA CHAPTER
AND CLIMATE, REALITY BAY AREA
CHAPTER AND VERY STRONG SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON
RELEASE. PHªN DRINK ON BEHALF OF
CLIMATE CENTER IN SUPPORT OF THE
BILL. THANKS. NICOLE GEAR ON
BEHALF OF FRIENDS OF THE EARTH
AND SUPPORT OF THE BILL. MELISSA
ROMERO, CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL
VOTERS AND STRONG SUPPORT. THANK
YOU. REBECCA MARCUS WITH CAL
PIRG AND ME TOO. FOR MY
COLLEAGUES AT EARTH JUSTICE.
THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON, JOHN
SHIBAN, CALIFORNIA NURSES
ASSOCIATION AND STRONG SUPPORT.
HI DR AMY MOSS WITH GREENPEACE
USA AND STRONG SUPPORT. HELLO
GABRIELLA FOSTER WAS SIERRA
CLUB, CALIFORNIA AND STRONG
SUPPORT. HELLO LAURA DIÆN WITH
ENVIRONMENT CALIFORNIA AND
STRONG SUPPORT. JASON FIVE.
OAKLAND RESIDENTS STRONG SUPPORT
JASMINE BARS IN LOS ANGELES
RESIDENTS STRONG SUPPORT. KAYLA
KARIMI ON BEHALF OF THE CENTER
ON THE CENTER ON RACE, POVERTY
AND THE ENVIRONMENT WITH STRONG
SUPPORT. ELIZABETH ESPINOSA ON
BEHALF OF THE BOARDS OF
SUPERVISORS AND THE COUNTIES OF
VENTURA AND SANTA BARBARA. AND
SUPPORT THANK YOU, THANK YOU SO
MUCH, AND IF THE OPPOSITION
COULD ALSO BE SENT, LIKE THE
EXPERT WITNESSES WERE
OUTNUMBERED HERE JUST A LITTLE
BIT, MR. CHAIR MEMBER SHAWN
VALENTINE, FROM SIPA IN
OPPOSITION TO THE BILL. THE GOOD
NEWS IS THE IDOL. WELL
MANAGEMENT PROGRAM WORKS GREAT.
IN FACT, IT WORKS SO WELL. THE
OIL INDUSTRY HAS PLUGGED A
RECORD NUMBER OF WELLS OVER THE
PAST TWO YEARS. 11,030 TÔI. ALL
WELLS IN THE LAST TWO YEARS
ALONE. CAL. JIM'S DOING A GREAT
JOB RUNNING THE PROGRAM, AND
WE'RE DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB
PLUGGING WELLS. CONTRARY TO WHAT
YOU HEARD EARLIER, CAL JIM ISN'T
ASKING FOR THIS BILL. WE'RE NOT
ASKING FOR THIS BILL.
SURPRISINGLY THE BILL SHUTS DOWN
TENS OF MILLIONS IN FUNDING FROM
THE OIL INDUSTRY TO PAY THE
STATE TO HIRE UNION LABOR TO
PLUG ORPHAN OIL WELLS. THEY
MENTIONED NOMINAL FEES. THEY'RE
NOT NOMINAL FEES. THERE'S $25
MILLION CURRENTLY SITTING IN THE
HEAD UAF. THAT'S 100% OIL MONEY
THAT WE'VE INVESTED FOR THE
PURPOSE OF THE STATE. HIRING
LABOR TO PLUG WELLS. UM REMEMBER
IDLE WELLS ARE ASSETS. UM MANY
COME BACK INTO PRODUCTION, AND
MANY WILL BE USED FOR CARBON
SEQUESTRATION, HYDROGEN PROJECTS
AND OTHER ALTERNATIVE USES. ONCE
THEY'RE PLUGGED, THEY'RE GONE
FOREVER. IN ADDITION TO PLUGGING
A RECORD NUMBER OF OIL WELLS
OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS, SIP HAS
BEEN WORKING ON IMPLEMENTING THE
BONDING LEGISLATION WITH CAL JIM
BONDS WERE MENTIONED. THIS BILL
REALLY DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO
DO WITH BONDS, MAYBE 1057 AND
1167 FROM LAST YEAR DO HAVE TO
DO WITH BONDS AND WE'RE
COMPLYING WITH THAT. AND I WANT
TO JUST POINT OUT THAT THERE IS
A LAYER CAKE. OF PROTECTION
AGAINST THE STATE SAFETY VALVES
THAT PROTECT TAXPAYERS. YOU HAVE
THE BONDING LAWS. YOU HAVE THE
CHAIN OF TITLE LAW THAT GOES
BACK TO 1996. IF THAT OIL WELL
WAS OWNED BY ANYONE ELSE AFTER
1996 THAT COMPANY HAS TO PLUG
THAT WELL, UH AND THE STATE CAN
UTILIZE EXISTING ORPHAN WELL
FUNDS, WHICH CURRENTLY SIT AT A
RECORD $300 MILLION. THERE'S
PLENTY OF MONEY IT UP. I WILL.
YES SIR. THE IDOL WELL
MANAGEMENT PLAN PROGRAM WORKS.
THE BILL THREATENS TO NEEDLESSLY
BREAK A PROGRAM THAT WORKS JUST
FINE TO ASK FOR YOUR NO VOTE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. TWO MINUTES,
SIR. MR CHAIR AND MEMBERS PAUL
DEAR OH, REPRESENTING WESTERN
STATES PETROLEUM ASSOCIATION, I
WILL NOT BE REPETITIVE. WHAT
WHAT I WILL COMMENT ON IS THIS
NARRATIVE? UH BY THE PROPONENTS
OF THE BILL THAT THE OIL
PRODUCTION IN CALIFORNIA IS IN
DECLINE, THAT'S THAT'S EXACTLY
THAT'S THAT'S FALSE, ACCORDING
TO THE U. S ENERGY
ADMINISTRATION, CALIFORNIA HAD
$1.7 BILLION OF BARRELS OF
PROVEN CRUDE OIL RESERVES IN
2021. THE OIL IS THERE WE JUST
NEED TO GET IT AS OPPOSED TO
IMPORTING 75% ALSO, THERE IS A
PART OF THE NARRATIVE IS A
CONFLATION OF WHAT AN IDOL WELL
IS IN WHAT AN ORPHAN WELL IS AND
WHAT A DESERTED WELL IS AND WHAT
ITS POTENTIAL DESERTED WELL, IS
AND IDLE WELL IS REGULATED BY
THE STATE. IT'S A WELL THAT
HASN'T PRODUCED IN TWO YEARS AND
THEN YOU HAVE LONG TERM IDA
WELLS WELLS WITHOUT HAVING
PRODUCED IN IN EIGHT YEARS. THEY
ARE TESTED EVERY TWO YEARS. THEY
ARE REGULATED. IF IF A TEST COME
BACK, AND IT'S POTENTIALLY
CAUSING HEALTH CONCERN. CAL GEM
IN THE OIL AND GAS SUPERVISOR
HAS THE DIRECT AUTHORITY AND
SHOULD USE THAT AUTHORITY TO
COOK PLUG IN ABANDONED THAT WELL
PERMANENTLY IF IT'S CAUSING ANY
ANY KIND OF HEALTH, HEALTH,
HEALTH HEALTH ISSUES THE
CALIFORNIA COUNCIL FOR SCIENCE
AND TECHNOLOGY CAME OUT WITH THE
REPORT FIVE YEARS AGO THAT THAT
IDENTIFIED 5300. ORPHAN WELLS.
DESSERT DESERTED WELLS
POTENTIALLY DESERVED WELLS.
THESE ARE WELLS WHERE WE DO NOT
HAVE AN IDENTIFIED OPERATOR AND
ARE THE MOST CRITICAL AND
LOCATED IN URBAN AREAS THAT
OUGHT TO BE ADDRESSED BEFORE YOU
CAN COMPLAINT WITH AN IDOL WELL
IS AND WHAT AN ORPHAN WELL IS
IDLE WELLS PERHAPS VALUE THEIR
ASSETS AND WE OPPOSE OPPOSE THIS
BILL. THANK YOU. CERTAINLY,
OPPOSITION IN THIS ROOM WOULD
LIKE TO BE HEARD. SAYING NONE
TURN IT BACK TO COMMITTEE
MEMBERS WITH MR MATHIS. I'VE
WISH MR HIGH WAS HERE SAYING
DIRECTLY STARTS HIM, BUT I THINK
IT'S VERY WELL SAID. I MEAN MY
BIGGEST CONCERN, AND YOU SAW IT
ON FORBES YESTERDAY. GREEN
HYDROGEN IS THE FUTURE OF
ENERGY. AND I DONT WELLS OR ONE
OF THE BEST PLACES EVERYWHERE
ELSE IN THE U. S IS USING THE
IDLE WELLS TO STORE GREEN
HYDROGEN. AND IF WE ARE EVER
GOING TO REACH OUR GOALS TO MOVE
FROM COMBUSTION. HYDROGEN IS THE
ANSWER. THAT IS THE SOLUTION AND
I THINK IT IS COMPLETELY
ASININE. TO TAKE AWAY THE
ABILITY TO DO WELL STORAGE FOR
GREEN HYDROGEN. IF WE WERE
WANTED TO GO AFTER ABANDONED
WELLS, AN ORPHAN WALLS 100. WE
NEED TO DO THAT. WE NEED TO GO
AFTER BAD ACTORS. BUT THIS BILL
GOES TOO FAR. BECAUSE IF YOU
TAKE AWAY THE ABILITY TO STORE
THAT GREEN HYDROGEN, WE TAKE
AWAY THE ABILITY FOR CALIFORNIA
TO BE CARBON FREE. THANKS SO
MUCH AND OTHER COMMENTS BY
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. MR HOOVER. UM
JUST AS A FOLLOW UP ON THAT, YOU
KNOW, I AM CONCERNED THAT
THERE'S NOT ENOUGH DISTINCTION
THAT HAS BEEN MADE BETWEEN THE
TYPE OF WELLS THAT WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT. SO IS IT THE INTENT OF
THIS BILL TO, UM YOU KNOW, TAKE
AWAY THESE FUTURE ASSETS,
WHETHER IT BE FOR BRINGING THEM
BACK INTO PRODUCTION AND USING,
YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY CREATING
CLEANER GAS THAT WE ARE ALREADY
USING HERE LOCALLY OR, YOU KNOW,
FOR CARBON CAPTURE HYDROGEN OR
THINGS LIKE THAT. IS THAT THE
INTENT OF THE BILL? 20 ANSWER.
UH THE INTENT OF THE BILL IS TO
CREATE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF JOBS
BY PLUGGING THESE DANGEROUS IDLE
WELLS, AND FOR THE LARGEST
OPERATORS, IT WOULD BE UP TO
THEM TO CHOOSE 20% OF THEIR
IDOL. WELL INVENTORY EACH YEAR,
SO IN THE RARE CASES, AND THAT'S
ABOUT MAYBE 1% OF VITAL WELLS
THAT ARE REACTIVATED BY THE
INDUSTRY EVERY YEAR IN THOSE
RARE CASES IF THEY WANT TO SET
ASIDE THE 1% OF WELLS THAT MIGHT
BECOME USEFUL IN THE FUTURE.
THERE ARE MORE THAN FREE TO DO
THAT SO LONG AS THEY MEET THE
MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS OF PLUGGING
THESE DANGEROUS WELLS AS WE MOVE
AWAY FROM FOSSIL FUELS. COULD
WE? NOT THOUGH? UM YOU KNOW,
HAVE EVEN MORE ECONOMIC ACTIVITY
AND PRODUCTION BY, YOU KNOW,
USING THESE FOR OTHER PURPOSES
IN THE FUTURE. IS THAT NOT
SOMETHING THAT WOULD IT COULD
ALSO POTENTIALLY CREATE JOBS. WE
CAN'T LEAVE THESE 40,000 IDLE
WELLS ON ATTENDED THE STATUS QUO
IS DANGEROUS FOR FRONTLINE
COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE GOTTEN
SICK FROM LIVING CLOSE TO THESE
LEAKING WELLS. IT'S DANGEROUS
FOR THE CLIMATE. AS I MENTIONED.
TWO THIRDS OF THESE IDLE WELLS
ARE CURRENTLY LEAKING METHANE.
INTO THE ATMOSPHERE, AND IT'S A
TICKING TIME BOMB FOR THE STATE
FINANCES $21 BILLION WORTH OF
CLEANUP COSTS, UH, COULD FALL ON
TAXPAYERS IF WE LEAVE THIS
PROBLEM ALONE. IS IT YOUR
UNDERSTANDING? OR IS IT YOUR
GUESS POSITION THAT THE CURRENT
SYSTEM IS NOT WORKING THESE
CHECKS EVERY TWO YEARS OR NOT
WORKING, TOO. CORRECT OR OR
CHECK FOR THESE PROBLEMS.
ABSOLUTELY NOT. THERE'S A RECENT
STUDY THAT SHOWS THAT TWO THIRDS
OF THESE IDLE WELLS ARE LEAKING
AND THAT'S UH IN SPITE OF THESE
REGULATIONS, THERE'S SIMPLY NOT
ENOUGH MONITORING TO COVER
140,000 ACTIVE WELLS AS WELL. AH
TO COVER THE AMOUNT OF LEAKS
THAT ARE HAPPENING STATEWIDE.
CAN I JUST HEAR FROM THE
OPPOSITION TO ANSWER THOSE
QUESTIONS ON YOUR PERSPECTIVE?
BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO GET A FULL
UNDERSTANDING OF THIS. YEAH I
CAN TELL YOU THAT. I DON'T WELLS
ARE ASSETS. THEY ARE REGULATED.
THEY'RE TESTED AND IF THERE IS A
LEAK, THEY WILL BE REMEDIED IN
PLUGGED AND CLOSED. WHAT HE SAID
ABOUT METHANE LEAKS. THE
CALIFORNIA ENERGY COMMISSION
CAME OUT WITH A STUDY CALLED THE
CALIFORNIA METHANE SURVEY. AND
THEY LOOKED AT 88,000 WELLS,
SURVEYING EACH ACTIVE, IDLE
PLUGGED IN ABANDONED WELLS. JUST
220 WELLS, WHICH IS 0.0. 0.1
POINT POINT 10. AH, OF THOSE
WELLS HAD MINOR POTENTIAL LEAKS.
AND THE CONCENTRATION OF THOSE
LEAKS. WE'RE NOT. WE'RE NOT
HARMFUL, SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE
PROPER CONTEXT WHEN YOU'RE
TALKING ABOUT 22 3RD OF THE
WELLS ARE LEAKING METHANE, WHICH
IS COMPLETELY FALSE. THANK YOU.
THERE SEEMS TO BE A DISAGREEMENT
ABOUT THE DATA AS WELL. THEY'RE
SAYING 40,000 IDLE WELLS. UM, I
WAS INTERACTING. IN THE CROWD,
AND IT'S 17,888 IDLE WELLS THAT
EXIST. WE'VE PLUGGED 11,032 OVER
THE LAST TWO YEARS. UM AND WE'RE
ABIDING BY THE IDLE WHILE
MANAGEMENT PLAN CREATED IN 2016,
AND IT'S WORKING. UM THE PROBLEM
IS THERE'S $25 MILLION SITTING
IN THE HEAD UAF IN THE STATES
NOT USING IT TO GO PLUG SOME OF
THE VERY WELLS THAT THE SUPPORT
MENTIONED, AND THERE'S PLENTY OF
MONEY, OUR MONEY WE PUT INTO THE
ACCOUNTS NOT NOMINAL. THERE'S
$25 MILLION IN THERE TO GO
HIGHER UNION LABOR TO GO PLUG
THOSE WELLS ORPHAN WELLS. THANK
YOU SO MUCH. YEAH. CAN YOU BE
VERY SUCCINCT AND QUICK, MR
MATHIS. WE'VE GOT THINGS WE'VE
GOT TO DO I JUST FOR THE RECORD.
CAN WE WALK THROUGH THE PROCESS
OF WHAT PLUGGING IT WELL IS AND
WHAT THAT MEANS TO JUST FOR
CLARITY'S SAKE. JUST WITH THE
SPONSORS OF THE BILL LIKE TO BE
VERY QUICK. UNPLUG A WELL ONCE
IT'S PLUGGED. YEAH, IF YOU DON'T
MIND HELP IN, UM THE PROCESS OF
PLUGGING WELL IS INJECTING
CONCRETE DOWN THE WELL BOARD TO
SEAL THE FORMATION, WHICH HAS
THE HYDROCARBONS FROM
GROUNDWATER AS WELL AS FROM THE
AIR. SO PROTECT THE COMMUNITIES
AND IT'S REALLY THE ONLY WAY TO
DO IT IN THE OPPOSITION AGREES.
THAT'S THE YOU FILL IT WITH
CONCRETE, AND IT'S DONE. YES THE
ASSET HAS GONE FOREVER. CAN'T
USE IT FOR CARBON SEQUESTRATION
CAN'T USE IT FOR HYDROGEN. THANK
YOU SO MUCH. MR. MATTHEWS STUD
POINT HAS BEEN MADE AS THEIR
EMOTIONAL OF THE BILL. MOTION BY
MURATSUCHI SECOND BY KALRA.
MADAM SECRETARY CAN CALL THE
ROLL. THE MOTION IS DUE PAST TWO
APPROPRIATIONS. BRIAN BRIAN
FLORA FLORA? NOPE BAUER-KAHAN
BARRACK A HAND I FRIEDMAN
FRIEDMAN I HOOVER HOOVER. NO
CHOLERA. CHOLERA I MATHIS SNOW
MARTUCCI MURATSUCHI. AYE,
PELLERIN AND I WICKS. WOULD
OKAY? LET'S TAKE CARE OF THE
BILL IS OUT. THANK YOU. YEP.
COME CLOSE US OUT. REMEMBER
BAUER-KAHAN. TRAVELING DOWN.
ELIZABETH WAS THAT ENOUGH? YEAH
WELL, THE BILLS THAT WOULD HAVE.
OH I WAS LIKE, WHAT PROCESS
UPSIDE DOWN J HERE, OKAY?
WHENEVER YOU'RE READY. THANK
YOU, MR CHAIR AND MEMBERS. UM
AND I WANT TO START BY THANKING
COMMITTEE FOR THEIR WORK ON THE
BILL. I'M ACCEPTING COMMITTEE
AMENDMENTS. I'M HERE TO PRESENT
A B 20 TO 36. IT IS A SUPER
SIMPLE BILL. IT GETS RID OF
THOSE THICK PLASTIC BAGS IN
GROCERY STORES THAT
THEORETICALLY AREN'T SUPPOSED TO
BE DISPOSABLE, BUT WE KNOW ARE
DISPOSABLE AND REPLACES THEM
WITH PAPER BAGS. SO IF ANYONE
LIKE ME SHOPS AT TRADER JOE'S,
THAT'S THE FUTURE PAPER ONLY
UNDER THIS BILL, AND WITH THAT,
I WILL TURN IT OVER TO MY
WITNESSES WITH ME TODAY IN
SUPPORT ARE LOUIS BROWN, AND
THIS IS A HISTORIC DAY. THE
FIRST TIME WE'RE EVER ON THE
SAME SIDE OF THE BILL WITH THE
CALIFORNIA GROCERS ASSOCIATION,
UM AND RENA COHEN, A STUDENT
LEADER WITH CAL PIRG, AND WE
HAVE MARK MURRAY CALIFORNIA
STAYS JUST ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS
IF YOU HAVE ANY PERFECT. CAN WE
GET A QUICK TWO MINUTE
TESTIMONY? HI AGAIN. MY NAME IS
RENA COHEN. I'M A SECOND YEAR
STUDENT AT U. C. DAVIS AND THE
CHAPTER CHAIR FOR CALBERT
STUDENTS ON MY CAMPUS AGAIN.
KELBERG STUDENTS FOR THE
STATEWIDE STUDENT LEAD, STUDENT
FUNDED NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION.
WE ORGANIZE YOUNG PEOPLE FOR
CHANGE AND TO WORK TOWARDS
GREENER, HEALTHIER FUTURES. SO I
KNOW THAT WE'RE SHORT ON TIME.
SO FOR THE SAKE OF REPETITION,
I'M JUST SAY THAT, YOU KNOW,
ADVOCATING LIKE PERSONALLY LIKE
I WAS BORN AND RAISED. I GREW UP
IN CALIFORNIA GREW UP GOING TO
THE BEACH TO THE MOUNTAIN
LEARNING HOW TO SURF. YOU'RE
GOING TO SKI BORN, ENJOYING ALL
OF THE NATURAL RESOURCES THAT OR
STATE HAS TO OFFER AND THOUSANDS
OF STUDENTS LIKE ME ARE LOOKING
TO CALIFORNIA LEADERS OF TODAY
TO MAKE DECISIONS THAT WILL HELP
REDUCE THE PLASTIC POLLUTION
CURRENTLY IN OUR COMMUNITIES AND
PREVENT OUR GENERATION FROM
INHERITING A PLASTICS CRISIS.
THAT'S EVEN WORSE, JUST AS
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S SAID THE
CALIFORNIA'S CURRENT BAN ON
PLASTIC GROCERY BAGS IS NOT
WORKING AS INTENDED, ESPECIALLY
THE LAST FEW YEARS. THESE
PLASTIC BAG COMPANIES HAVE
CREATED THIS. THESE THICKER
PLASTIC BAGS THAT THEY CLAIM ARE
EXEMPT FROM THE LAW. IN REALITY,
FEW PEOPLE ARE REUSING THEM AND
BECAUSE THE PLASTIC CARRY OUT
BAG TO GROCERY STORES HAVE
BECOME THICKER. THE PLASTIC BAG
WEIGHT HAS INCREASED
DRAMATICALLY THE HIGHEST LEVEL
ON RECORD. ACTUALLY, 230,000
TONS OF PLASTIC BAG WAIST, SO WE
NEED TO CLOSE THE LOOPHOLE IN
OUR BAG BAND THAT ALLOWS FOR
THESE THICKER BAGS TO BE
PROVIDED AT GROCERY STORES AND
TRULY BAND THE BAG. AND THAT'S
EXACTLY WHAT THIS BILL DOES. AND
SO WE'RE VERY THANKFUL TO
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S BAUER-KAHAN FOR
HER LEADERSHIP AND ENCOURAGE
YOUR I VOTE ON THIS BILL. THANK
YOU SO MUCH. MR CHAIR MEMBERS OF
THE COMMITTEE, LOUIS BROWN HERE
TODAY ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA GROCERIES ASSOCIATION
IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL, WE
SUPPORTED THE ORIGINAL BILL. SB
270 BACK IN 2014 THAT MOVED US
IN THIS DIRECTION. BUT AS IT
GOES WITH POLICY, SINCE THAT
TIME WE'VE LEARNED AND WE'VE
LEARNED THAT THERE'S CHANGES
THAT ARE NECESSARY TO THE LAW.
THE PLASTIC BAGS THAT WERE PUT
INTO SB 270 AT THE TIME WHEN WE
WROTE THAT LAW. WERE INTENDED
AND THOUGHT THAT THEY WERE GOING
TO BE RECYCLED, AND FRANKLY, IT
WORKED IN THE VERY BEGINNING,
AND WE SAW A CHANGE IN CONSUMER
HABIT. THAT CHANGE WENT BACK AND
IT'S NEVER COME BACK AFTER COVID
AND SO, UM WE'RE HERE IN SUPPORT
OF THE BILL BECAUSE WE SUPPORTED
THE ORIGINAL POLICY. WE THINK
THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF THAT
POLICY, AND WE'RE PREPARED TO
HELP MAKE THAT TRANSITION
HAPPEN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO
MUCH. ANY PERSON IN THE ROOM
WOULD LIKE TO REGISTER THEIR
SUPPORT. GOOD AFTERNOON. GENESIS
GONZALEZ ON BEHALF OF LIEUTENANT
GOVERNOR, LENNY SKANDALAKIS AND
SUPPORT THANK YOU. CRYSTAL QUÊ
DOSSIER ON BEHALF OF THE
WESTERN, UM PLASTER, A WASTE
MANAGEMENT AUTHORITY AND STRONG
SUPPORT. HELLO AGAIN, NICHOLAS
MAZARI ON BEHALF OF CLEAN WATER
ACTION IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL.
WINDBREAKER HALF OF 350
SACRAMENTO CLIMATE ACTION
CALIFORNIA AND THE CLIMATE
ACTION. I'M SORRY. CLIMATE
REALITY PROJECT, CALIFORNIA
COALITION. THANK YOU. CRAIG SWIM
ON BEHALF OF THE KROGER COMPANY
OPERATES RALPHS IN SOUTHERN
CALIFORNIA AND SUPPORT LARA
DEION ON BEHALF OF ENVIRONMENT,
CALIFORNIA AND STRONG SUPPORT.
JENNIFER FEARING FOR OCEANA,
OCEAN CONSERVANCY AND SURFRIDER
FOUNDATION SUPPORT GABRIELLA
PASEO THIS YEAR CLUB CALIFORNIA
AND SPORT. THANK YOU SO MUCH ANY
PERSON IN THE ROOM WHO WOULD
LIKE TO REGISTER THEIR
OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL? ONE OF
THEM IS CHEAPER. YEAH. ST.
AGAIN. YOU'VE GOT TWO MINUTES.
BUT IF YOU CAN MAKE IT
SUCCINCTLY AND FASTER THAN THAT,
THERE ARE BONUS POINTS. BONUS
THANK YOU. UM THANK YOU,
CHAIRMAN BRIAN AND VICE CHAIR
FLORA AND THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
UM MY NAME IS ROXANNE. SPEAKER
MAN AND I REPRESENT PRE ZERO US.
WE ARE A WASTE DIVERSION AND
RECYCLING OF PLASTIC FILM HERE
IN CALIFORNIA. UM WE ALSO
SPECIALIZE IN THE DOWNSTREAM
CONVERSION OF THESE REUSABLE, UM
, REASONABLE PLASTIC FILM BAGS.
UM AS AS IT IS CURRENTLY WRITTEN
IN THIS BILL, THERE ARE SOME
UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES THAT
NEED TO BE ADDRESSED. NOW.
RECENTLY WE WERE AWARDED THE
CALORIE CYCLE. UH, FIBER PLASTIC
AND GLASS GRANT PROGRAM, WHICH
ALLOWED US TO ACQUIRE EQUIPMENT
TO ACTUALLY RECYCLE THESE BAGS
AND OTHER BAGS AND FILMS THAT
ARE IN STORES RIGHT NOW. THAT
CAN'T BE CURBSIDE RECYCLED. SO
THERE IS A SOLUTION HERE.
REGULATING THIS TO THE POINT
WHERE OTHER ALTERNATIVE BAGS
LIKE POLYPROPYLENE BAGS THAT ARE
ALLOWED THAT ARE SIMPLY JUST
ANOTHER PLASTIC BAG JUST HEAVIER
AND IMPORTED WITH THEIR ONLY END
LIFE GOING INTO LANDFILL OR THE
NON REUSABLE, RECYCLED CONTENT
PAPER BAG THAT USES MUCH MORE
ENERGY AND WATER USE IN BOTH ITS
PULPY AND RE PULPING PROCESSES
IS NOT THE ANSWER. SO REALLY
BANNING THE BAG IS REALLY NOT
THE ANSWER WITH PEOPLE ARE STILL
GOING TO USE PLASTIC FILM
THEY'RE GOING TO USE IN A WIDE
VARIETY OF NON CARRIER BAG
APPLICATIONS, EXTENDS FOOD LIFE
AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL
SAFE. SO THE REAL ANSWER HERE IS
TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS A WAY
TO GET THIS MATERIAL
CONSOLIDATED AND CHANNEL IT BACK
. AND THE ONLY WAY TO DO THAT,
REALLY, THE MOST SOUND SOLUTION
IS TO AMEND THIS BILL THE WAY IT
CURRENTLY IS AND TO INTEGRATE
THE BAGS INTO CALIFORNIA'S
EXTENDED PRODUCER RESPONSIBILITY
PROGRAM SB 54 AND MAKE SURE THAT
WE HAVE A MUCH WIDER SOLUTION
HERE FOR ALL PLASTICS AND
INFLEXIBLE AND BAGS. THAT'S
GOING TO SOLVE A MUCH GREATER
PROBLEM. SO I DO ASK THAT THIS
BE OPPOSED UNLESS AMENDED. THANK
YOU. OKAY, GO AHEAD. CHAIR AND
ESTEEMED MEMBERS OF THE NATURAL
RESOURCES COMMITTEE. THANK YOU
FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS
YOU REGARDING ASSEMBLY BILL 20
TO 36. MY NAME IS PHIL RADZINSKY
. I SERVE AS THE INTERIM
DIRECTOR OF THE AMERICAN
RECYCLABLE PLASTIC BAG ALLIANCE,
R P B, A REPRESENTS
MANUFACTURERS AND RECYCLERS OF
FILM PLASTIC RETAIL BAGS,
INCLUDING MEMBERS WITH
OPERATIONS IN CALIFORNIA. I'M
HERE ON THEIR BEHALF TO EXPRESS
OUR OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED
LEGISLATION. THE ERA PBIA SHARES
THE GOALS OF A B 22236
PROTECTING AND IMPROVING THE
ENVIRONMENT. BUT LET ME BE CLEAR
THE BILL WILL NOT REDUCE PLASTIC
, IT WILL MERELY MERELY SHIFT
CALIFORNIANS TO OTHER PLASTIC
BAGS THAT RESULT IN
SIGNIFICANTLY MORE PLASTIC
POLLUTION AND CONSUMPTION. AFTER
A SUSTAINED A SIMILAR A SIMILAR
BILL PASSED IN NEW JERSEY. THAT
IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED. BAN ON
TRADITIONAL FILM PLASTIC BAGS
RESULTED IN THE STATE ADOPTING
NON WOVEN PIE PROPYLENE BAGS. AS
THE NEW OPTION, WHICH LED TO
300% INCREASE IN PLASTIC
CONSUMPTION 500% RISE IN
GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS
MOREOVER, STATES HAVE SHOWN THAT
ON AVERAGE, THESE NON WOVEN BAGS
ARE ONLY USED 2 TO 3 TIMES
BEFORE THEY ARE DISCARDED.
THEY'RE SIMPLY NOT USED. THE
NUMBER OF TIMES NEEDED FOR THEM
TO BE MORE ENVIRONMENTALLY
BENEFICIAL. THEY BECOME THE NEW
SINGLE USE BACK. CURRENTLY LAW
REQUIRES TODAY'S FILM PLASTIC
BAGS TO CONTAIN 40% CERTIFIED
POST CONSUMER RECYCLED CONTENT
REGISTERED WITH CALORIE CYCLE.
EVERY YEAR. THE BAGS USED TODAY
CONSUME 100 AND £83 MILLION OF
RECYCLED CONTENT THAT WAS
DESTINED FOR LANDFILLS TO MAKE
THESE BAGS. IN CONTRAST, NON
WOVEN BAGS RARELY CONTAIN
RECYCLED CONTENT AND ARE NOT
RECYCLABLE IN CALIFORNIA. IF THE
BALL PASSES THE THICK,
RECYCLABLE BAGS CURRENTLY
MANDATED BY THE STATE WITH
CEASED TO EXIST. PASSING THE
BILL WITH TRIGGER INCREASED
PLASTIC USE, ELIMINATE THE USE
OF £183 MILLION OF RECYCLED
CONTENT. INCREASED CARBON
FOOTPRINTS, MOVE JOBS OUT OF
CALIFORNIA AND INCREASE THE COST
OF GROCERIES HERE IN THE STATE.
I CAN'T EMPHASIZE ENOUGH THIS
BILL STRUCTURED NOT TO REDUCE
PLASTIC. BUT TO SUBSTITUTE IT
WITH A DIFFERENT FORM. WE URGE
YOU TO VOTE AGAINST IT, AND WE
INVITE COLLABORATION TO CREATE A
MORE EFFECTIVE SOLUTION. THANK
YOU SO MUCH AND THEN TWO MINUTES
AND 10 SECONDS. NO BONUS POINTS
ARE AWARDED. UM ARE THERE ANY
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE ROOM
WHO WOULD LIKE TO REGISTER THEIR
OPPOSITION? AFTERNOON MR
CHAIRMAN, ALBERTO TORRICO MAY OF
THE UNITED FOOD AND COMMERCIAL
WORKERS. WESTERN STATES COUNCIL
OPPOSED UNLESS AMENDED. HI SARAH
POLO MU WITH THE CALIFORNIA
RETAILERS ASSOCIATION. WE HAVE
NO POSITION, BUT WE DO HAVE
CONCERNS AND WE'RE WORKING WITH
THE AUTHOR'S OFFICE. THANK YOU.
MR CHAIR AND MEMBERS BRUCE
MIGNONI ON BEHALF OF THE
ASSOCIATION OF PLASTICS
RECYCLERS, THE RECYCLING
PARTNERSHIP AND WESTERN PLASTICS
ASSOCIATION. WE DO THINK IS A
ROBUST LAW IN THIS STATE SB 54,
AND WE THINK THAT WOULD BE THE
SOLUTION. THANK YOU LOOK FORWARD
TO WORKING WITH THE OTHER. THANK
YOU. CHAIR MEMBERS. LAUREN
ANGULAR, THE FLEXIBLE PACKAGING
ASSOCIATION, ALSO IN AN OPPOSING
RECOMMENDED POSITION. MR CHAIR
MEMBERS, RJ SORT OF ON THIS ON
BEHALF OF THE AMERICAN FORESTS
AND PAPER ASSOCIATION IN AN
OPPOSED UNLESS AMENDED POSITION.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, RJ.
QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. BONUS POINTS
IF YOU'RE SENSING FELLAS MR
MATHIS. WOULD YOU LIKE TO START?
SURE BEING THAT, UH, ONCE HAD A
PAPER. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?
THANK YOU VOICE IF I NEED TO
HEAR YOU, DEVIN, HERE'S BOTTOM
LINE A APPRECIATE NOTHING TO GET
THE PLASTICS BUT, UM I'LL TAKE
THE PAPER EVERY DAY. MY BIGGEST
CONCERN ON THIS BILL. IS THE
LOOKING AT THE 100% RECYCLED
PAPER. IT'S A DURABILITY ISSUE.
IT'S A FIBER ISSUE. I HAVE PAPER
MANUFACTURING IN MY DISTRICT,
AND MY CONCERN GOES. I'M GONNA
WALK YOU OUT. I GOT FIVE KIDS. I
WANNA HAVE A TON OF GROCERIES.
I'M GONNA HAVE BAGS EXPLODING IN
THE PARKING LOT GLASS BREAKING.
IT'S GOING TO BE A BAD DAY. AND
I DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN IF
THE BILL WAS ADJUSTED A LITTLE
BIT MORE TO BE MORE CONSIDERATE
ABOUT THE FIBER PROCESS FOR
PAPER BAGS TO BE MORE DURABLE,
WOULD BE A JOINT AUTHOR WITH
YOU. SO THANKS TO CONSIDER GOING
FORWARD. BUT UNTIL IT'S THERE. I
CAN'T SUPPORT IT. RESPOND TO MY
CLOTHES, IF YOU LIKE. THANK YOU
SO MUCH, MR HOOVER. I'LL JUST
WRAP MINE UP INTO ONE QUESTION.
SO LAST TIME WE PASSED THIS
BILL, WE INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF
PLASTIC WE USE. I'M HEARING
SIMILAR CONCERNS WITH THIS. I
GUESS WE'D LOVE TO HEAR YOUR
RESPONSE TO THAT. AND THEN ALSO,
UM WHAT IS THE COST? DIFFERENCE
THAT THESE BAGS? YOU KNOW, THESE
NEW BAGS WILL POTENTIALLY COST
COMPARED TO THE CURRENT RECYCLE
BACKS. UM SO IN RESPONSE TO THAT
THE NEW JERSEY LAW DID NOT ALLOW
PAPERS SO THEY WERE REPLACING
PLASTIC BAGS WITH JUST THE
REUSABLE. PLASTICKY BAGS. WE ARE
NOT DOING THAT WE ARE CONTINUING
. WE REALLY ARE ALLOWING PAPER
IN RESPONSE TO SOMETHING. MATHIS
THIS POINT WE ACTUALLY HAD JUST
MET WITH THE PAPER INDUSTRY THIS
WEEK AND ARE WORKING ON THOSE
STANDARDS AND I LOOK FORWARD TO
YOUR JOINT AUTHORSHIP WHEN WE
GET TO A GOOD POINT ON THAT THE
AMENDMENTS BUT SO I DON'T
ACTUALLY THINK WE'RE PUTTING
MORE PLASTIC INTO THE SYSTEM
BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THE PAPER BAG
OPTION, WHICH IS SIGNIFICANTLY
DIFFERENT THAN THIS. WHAT WAS
CITED, UM SO I IT JUST I DON'T
KNOW WHAT TO SAY. EXCEPT WE ARE
REMOVING A PLASTIC BAG THAT WAS
NOT USED. THERE WILL BE LESS
PLASTIC. THERE WILL BE MORE
PAPER AND THAT PAPER WILL BE
RECYCLED, AND WE'LL HAVE A HIGH
RECYCLED CONTENT. UM ALTHOUGH,
LIKE I SAID, WE'RE WORKING ON
WHAT THAT CONTENT WILL LOOK
LIKE. AND THEN THE COST. SORRY
YOU ASKED TWO QUESTIONS, AND THE
COST IS HIGHER. AND BUT BUT IT
IS LESS THAN THE FEE AND THE
BILL DOES NOT CHANGE THE FEE
THAT IS ALLOWED TO BE COLLECTED.
AND SO THAT FEE NOW WILL MUCH
MORE. UM, THAT WILL GO TOWARDS
THE COST OF THE BAGS, BUT IT
WILL COVER IT. ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM
COLLEAGUES. SIMILAR WOULD YOU
LIKE TO CLOSE? I RESPECTFULLY
ASK FOR PRIVATE. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING TODAY,
AND I KNOW THE AUTHOR IS WILLING
TO WORK WITH ALL OF THE
OPPOSITION PARTNERS, UFCW AND
OTHERS WHO CAME TO SPEAK TODAY.
I HAVE NO NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT
WITH THAT THIS BILL DOES HAVE A
DO PASS RECOMMENDATION. DO WE
HAVE A MOTION? MATTHEWS
PELLERIN, MADAM SECRETARY, CALL
THE ROLL. THE MOTION IS DUE PASS
AS AMENDED TO APPROPRIATIONS.
BRIAN BRIAN I FLORA FLORA NOBEL
BAUER-KAHAN HIGH BAUER-KAHAN I.
FRIEDMAN FRIEDMAN I HOOVER
HOOVER. NO CHOLERA. CHOLERA I
MATHIS MINUTE, NOT VOTING.
MURATSUCHI MURATSUCHI. AYE,
PELLERIN PELLERIN. I WICKS. I
WOULD THANK YOU THAT BUILDS OUT.
MADAM SECRETARY CAN WE ALSO LIFT
THE ROLE? IF YOU GOT THE I DON'T
KNOW. CAN WE LIFT THE CALL FOR
MISSING? UH MISSING MEMBERS? A B
1866 HEART CHAIR, VOTING I
ABSENT MEMBERS WICKS I SEVEN.
THAT'S RIGHT. FOR HEART 1866
HEART HEART THAT BUILDS OUT IS
ON. YEAH. WHICH ONE ON 1857 WHO
YOU VOTED. YEAH MAYBE 1922
DAVY'S CHAIR VOTING. I ABSENT
MEMBERS, HOOVER. I HOOVER I
CHOLERA. CHOLERA. I HAS 11
VOTES. 11 VOTES. THAT BILL IS
OUT A B 1992 BURNER. MOTION IS
DUE PAST TWO APPROPRIATIONS
ABSENT MEMBERS. CHOLERA CHOLERA,
MATHIS MATH IS NOT VOTING MERIT
SUKI SUKI, I 77 VOTES THAT BILL
IS OUT. A B 2091 GRAYSON MOTION
IS DUE PAST AS AMENDED TO WATER
PARKS AND WILDLIFE ABSENT
MEMBERS. HOOVER HOOVER I CHOLERA
. CHOLERA I. MATHIS MATHIS,
MURATSUCHI ITSUKI. I 11 VOTES
THAT BUILDS OUT. ALRIGHT. THIS
ONE'S DONE TOO, BECAUSE MM HMM.
YES. A B 2285 RENDON MOTION IS
DUE PAST AS AMENDED TO WATER
PARKS AND WILDLIFE ABSENT MEMBER
PELLERIN OKAY, SHE'S GONE.
THAT'S 10 VOTES THAT'S OUT. A B
2440 RAISE MOTION IS PASSED TO
WATER PARKS AND WILDLIFE,
ABSOLUTE MEMBER OF CHOLERA.
KALRA I AND FLORA FLORA, I 1111
THAT BUILDS OUT A B 2577 IRWIN
MOTION IS PASSED TO
APPROPRIATIONS ABSENT MEMBER
MURATSUCHI OTSUKI. I HAS ABEL'S
VOTES THAT BUILDS OUT A B 2648
BENNETT DO PASS AS UM ADDITIONAL
APPROPRIATIONS ABSENT MEMBERS.
CHOLERA, CHOLERA, MATHIS 2648
MATHIS NÓ. WICKS I HATE THAT
BUILDS OUT MAYBE. I MEAN, SORRY.
SB 551 PORTANTINO MOTIONS DO
PASS AS AMENDED TO
APPROPRIATIONS ABSENT MEMBERS
HOOVER, HOOVER I AND CHOLERA.
CHOLERA? AYE. 11 AND THEN THE
CONSENT CONSENT CALENDAR. ABSENT
MEMBERS HOOVER HOOVER I AND
CHOLERA, CHOLERA. I HAS A
WEDDING MØT. AND WITH THAT
TODAY'S NATURAL RESOURCE
COMMITTEE HEARING IS OVER