GOOD MORNING. WELCOME TO THE
ASSEMBLY ELECTIONS COMMITTEE
HEARING. THERE ARE SEVEN BILLS
UP IN OUR COMMITTEE TODAY. THREE
BILLS ARE PROPOSED FOR CONSENT.
THE BILLS THAT ARE UP IN
COMMITTEE ARE AS FOLLOWS. UM WE
HAVE WE WE'RE DOING ALL THIS.
NÓ. WE'RE NOT DOING THIS, OK?
AND WE DON'T HAVE A CORN
PRESENT, SO WE WILL BEGIN AS A
SUBCOMITTEE. AND IF MEMBERS OF
THE COMMITTEE ARE MONITORING
THIS HEARING, PLEASE COME TO
ROOM. 444 OF THE STATE CAPITOL
SO THAT WE CAN ESTABLISH A
QUORUM. I'D LIKE TO WELCOME
EVERYONE WHO IS HERE AND THE
HEARING ROOM TODAY AND WHO'S
WATCHING THE HEARING ONLINE? FOR
THE PURPOSE OF THIS HEARING? WE
ARE ACCEPTING WITNESS TESTIMONY
IN PERSON AND WE ARE ALSO
ACCEPTING WRITTEN TESTIMONY
THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE'S
POSITION LETTER PORTAL. THAT
PORTAL CAN BE ACCESSED THROUGH
THE COMMITTEE'S WEBSITE AT A EL
èC DOT ASSEMBLY DOT CæA DOT
GOV. SO THE COMMITTEE HAS SEVEN
BILLS THREE ON CONSENT. WHEN WE
HEAR THE BILLS ON THE AGENDA, WE
WILL HEAR FROM A MAXIMUM OF TWO
PRIMARY WITNESSES IN SUPPORT AND
TWO PRIMARY WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION TO THE BILL WITH A
LIMIT OF TWO MINUTES PER
WITNESS. OTHER WITNESSES ARE
LIMITED TO PROVIDING THEIR NAME
THEIR ORGANIZATION THEY
REPRESENT, IF ANY, AND THEIR
POSITION ON THE BILL. ADDITIONAL
COMMENTS WILL BE ROLLED OUT OF
ORDER. BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE
AGENDA. I HAVE AN ADDITIONAL
ANNOUNCEMENT TO MAKE. I HAVE A
LETTER FROM SPEAKER RIVAS
APPOINTING ASSEMBLY MEMBER MIA
BONTA TO REPLACE ASSEMBLY MEMBER
AKILA WEBER ON THE COMMITTEE.
FOR THE PURPOSE OF TODAY'S
HEARING ONLY AND HOPEFULLY
ASSEMBLY MEMBER BONTE WILL BE
HERE SHORTLY. WITH THOSE
ANNOUNCEMENTS OUT OF THE WAY WE
WILL NOW MOVE ON TO THE, UM WE
CAN'T DO THAT. WE CAN'T DO
CONSENT, RIGHT? ALL RIGHT. SO
UH, NÓ CONSENT NÓ QUORUM. I'M
THE ONLY AUTHOR HERE. IMPORTANT
AND THE IMPORTANT MEMBER. THANK
YOU. WELCOME TO MY CO-CHAIR AS
SO MANY MEMBER LACKEYS. THANK
YOU, MEMBER SALLIE AND A MEMBER
BENNETT FOR BEING HERE ON TIME.
IF IT'S OK, UNTIL WE GET AN
OFFER, I THINK I'LL HAND THE
GAVEL OVER TO MR LACKEY AND I
WILL PROCEED WITH MY BILLS
BECAUSE WE ARE NOT GOING TO
DILLY DALLY. OK? MORE.
UH, ON. OK? GOOD MORNING. GOOD
MORNING. YOU MAY PROCEED. UH,
WE'RE GOING TO START WITH THE
BILL THAT WE HAVE FOR THE
ELECTION REGISTRATION
INFORMATION CENTER. THANK YOU,
CHAIR AND MEMBERS IF THIS IS ON,
RIGHT? IN A STATE WITH STATEWIDE
MAIL BALLOTS. THE ACCURACY OF
OUR VOTER RECORDS IS A PARAMOUNT
IMPORTANCE. THE ELECTRONIC
REGISTRATION INFORMATION CENTER,
KNOWN AS ERIC. IS A POWERFUL
TOOL ELECTIONS OFFICIALS CAN USE
TO ENSURE THAT THEY HAVE THE
MOST UP TO DATE VOTER ROLLS.
ERIC IS A NONPARTISAN NONPROFIT
GOVERNED BY ITS MEMBER STATES
THAT MUTUALLY AGREE TO SHARE
DATA SUCH AS VOTER REGISTRATION
AND VEHICLE LICENSE DATA IN
ORDER TO KEEP THEIR VOTER ROLLS.
UPDATED. AND TO REACH OUT TO
ELIGIBLE BUT UNREGISTERED
CITIZENS. BY THE SECRETARY OF
STATE'S ESTIMATES. THERE ARE
ALMOST 5 MILLION UNREGISTERED
ELIGIBLE VOTERS IN CALIFORNIA.
THIS IS GREATER THAN THE
POPULATION OF 26 STATES. WHEN A
VOTER MOVES THEY OFTEN REGISTER
TO VOTE IN THEIR NEW
JURISDICTION, BUT DO NOT NOTIFY
THEIR PRIOR COUNTY ELECTIONS
OFFICIAL THAT THEY HAVE MOVED.
DUE TO THE HIGHLY MOBILE NATURE
OF CALIFORNIA'S POPULATION, IT
IS LIKELY THERE ARE MILLIONS OF
VOTER REGISTRATION RECORDS THAT
ARE OUT OF DATE DUE TO A RECENT
MOVE. ERIC MEMBERS DO NOT HAVE
ACCESS TO ANY OF THE MEMBERS,
DATA OR REPORTS STORED ON ERIC'S
SERVERS AND STATE VOTER
REGISTRATION SYSTEMS ARE NEVER
CONNECTED TO ERIC. A B 2050
ALLOWS THE SECRETARY OF STATE TO
JOIN ERIC ON BEHALF OF THE STATE
OF CALIFORNIA TO PROVIDE THE
STATE WITH DATA ON VOTERS WHO
HAVE MOVED IN STATE OUT OF STATE
OR DIED, AS WELL AS PROVIDING
DATA ON CALIFORNIANS WHO ARE
ELIGIBLE TO VOTE BUT ARE NOT
REGISTERED. ERIC IS DESIGNED TO
WORK WITHIN THE FRAMEWORK OF THE
NATIONAL VOTER REGISTRATION ACT,
UNDER WHICH STATES CANNOT REMOVE
VOTERS FROM THE ROLLS JUST
BECAUSE ERIC REPORTS THEY HAVE
MOVED BEFORE REMOVING A VOTER
STATES MUST CONTACT THE VOTER
SEEK TO CONFIRM ERIC'S
INFORMATION AND LEAVE VOTERS ON
THE ROLLS FOR AT LEAST TWO
FEDERAL GENERAL ELECTION CYCLES
AS CONSISTENT WITH FEDERAL LAW.
ADDITIONALLY A B 2050
SPECIFICALLY PROHIBITS THE
SENDING OF A B 60 LICENSE DATA
IN ORDER TO ENSURE THAT NÓ ONE
IS INELIGIBLE TO VOTE IS
INCLUDED IN THE DATA SET. AS YOU
MAY KNOW, NINE STATES HAVE LEFT
ERIC IN THE LAST COUPLE OF
YEARS. I WON'T SUGAR COAT IT.
THE STATES WHO HAVE PULLED OUT
OF ERIC HAVE CAPITULATED TO
CONSPIRACY THEORIES COUCHED IN
DATA SECURITY CONCERNS. AS THE
FORMER WEST VIRGINIA SECRETARY
OF STATE SAID THIS RETREAT FROM
ERIC IS THE NEXT STEP IN
SPREADING DISINFORMATION AS A
WAY TO WEAKEN AND SOW DISTRUST,
DISTRUST IN OUR ELECTION SYSTEM.
THROUGH A PUBLIC RECORDS ACT
REQUEST. WE KNOW THAT IN 2020,
THREE, THE TEXAS SECRETARY OF
STATE'S OFFICE WAS ADVISING THIS
TEXAS STATE LEGISLATURE THAT
ERIC AND I QUOTE. IS AN
IMPORTANT ELECTION INTEGRITY
TOOL, AND THEY WERE CONCERNED
ABOUT THE MISINFORMATION
CIRCULATING AROUND IT. WHEN
TEXAS WAS A MEMBER OF ERIC MORE
THAN 200,000, DECEASED, IN-STATE
DUPLICATE AND CROSS STATE
DUPLICATE VOTER RECORDS WERE
FLAGGED FOR COUNTY REGISTRARS IN
A SIX MONTH PERIOD IN 2022.
FURTHERMORE, IN EMAILS TO THEIR
LEGISLATURE. THE TEXAS SECRETARY
OF STATE'S OFFICE SAID THAT IF
THEY WERE TO LEAVE ERIC AND
AGAIN, I QUOTE HERE TEXAS WOULD
BE LOSING A SOURCE OF
INFORMATION TO REMOVE
POTENTIALLY HUNDREDS OF
THOUSANDS OF INELIGIBLE VOTERS
EACH YEAR, PARTICULARLY VOTERS
WHO ARE REGISTERED IN MORE THAN
ONE STATE. WITHOUT ERIC, WE
WOULD HAVE NÓ VISIBILITY INFO.
FOR EXAMPLE, A PERSON WHO IS
REGISTERED TO VOTE IN BOTH
GEORGIA AND TEXAS AND CASTS OR
ATTEMPTS TO CAST A BALLOT IN
BOTH STATES. IN THE SUMMER OF
2023, TEXAS, LEFT, ERIC
CALIFORNIANS EFFORTS TO INCREASE
THE ACCESSIBILITY OF OUR VOTER
REGISTRATION SYSTEM HAS BEEN A
GREAT SUCCESS. BECOMING AN ERIC
MEMBER IS A NATURAL NEXT STEP IN
CALIFORNIA'S MISSION TO IMPROVE
THE ACCURACY OF OUR VOTER FILES
AND TO ENSURE ALL VOICES ARE
HEARD AT THE BALLOT BOX. A B
2050 IS SPONSORED BY THE
CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF CLERKS
AND ELECTIONS OFFICIALS WITH ME
TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OF ERIC IS
SHANE HAMLIN, WHO'S THE
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF ERIC AND I
UNDERSTAND TRISHA WEBER, WHO
REPRESENTS THE A èC E Ó IS ON
HER WAY. IS SHE OK, WHILE WE
WAIT FOR THAT, LET'S GO AHEAD
AND, UH, ESTABLISH A QUORUM IF
WE COULD TAKE THE ROLE, PLEASE.
KORAN. TELL HER IN HERE. LACKEY
HERE. LACKEY HERE, BENNETT.
BENNETT HERE, BERMAN. CERVANTES.
A SALIE, A SALLIE HERE LOW.
FONTA HERE. FONTA HERE WE HAVE A
QUORUM. THANK YOU. YOU MAY
PROCEED. THANK YOU GUYS. RIGHT.
GOOD MORNING, VICE CHAIR. LACKEY
AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. MY
NAME IS SHANE HAMLIN. I'M THE
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF ERIC THE
ELECTRONIC REGISTRATION
INFORMATION. I'D LIKE TO THANK
CHAIR PELLERIN FOR SPONSORING A
B 1250 INVITING ME HERE TO SPEAK
TO YOU TODAY ON BEHALF OF THE
BILL. ERIC AS YOU HEARD IS A
NONPROFIT 501 èC THREE
MEMBERSHIP ORGANIZATION. COMPLI
COMPRISE COMPLETELY OF STATE
ELECTION OFFICIALS IN 25 STATES
AND THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA.
OUR MISSION IS TO HELP ELECTION
OFFICIALS MAINTAIN MORE ACCURATE
VOTER ROLLS AND INCREASE ACCESS
TO VOTER REGISTRATION
INFORMATION. UH, FOR ELIGIBLE
CITIZENS. WE ARE A MEMBER LED
ORGANIZATION COMPLETELY FUNDED
BY OUR MEMBERS AND GOVERNED BY
OUR MEMBERS. MY BOARD OF
DIRECTORS, OUR STATE ELECTIONS
DIRECTORS AND THEY REPORT TO
SECRETARIES OF STATE.
MAINTAINING ACCURATE VOTER ROLLS
IS A CHALLENGE BECAUSE AS YOU
HEARD VOTERS EVERY DAY DIE AND
MOVE OFTEN THEY DO NOT THINK TO
UPDATE THEIR ADDRESS WHEN THEY
MOVE, AND FAMILY MEMBERS RARELY
REPORT THE DEATH OF A OF A
FAMILY MEMBER. ERIC HELPS
ELECTION OFFICIALS MITIGATE
THESE CHALLENGES. SINCE 2012
ERIC HAS IDENTIFIED FOR ITS
MEMBERS, NEARLY 42 MILLION
INACCURATE OR OUT OF DATE VOTER
RECORDS, MOST NOTABLY ALMOST
12.7 MILLION VOTERS WHO HAVE
MOVED OUT OF THOSE STATES TO
ANOTHER ERIC STATE. AND WE'VE
ALSO IDENTIFIED ABOUT 60 MILLION
INDIVIDUALS WHO APPEAR TO BE
ELIGIBLE BUT WHO ARE NOT YET
REGISTERED. IF CALIFORNIA WERE
TO JOIN ERIC BASED ON THE
EXPERIENCE OF OUR CURRENT
MEMBERS, WE BELIEVE WE'D
IDENTIFY ALMOST 2 MILLION OUT OF
DATE OR INACCURATE VOTER RECORDS
THAT NEED TO BE UPDATED AND
ABOUT 4.5 TO 5 MILLION
POTENTIALLY ELIGIBLE BUT
UNREGISTERED INDIVIDUALS. ERIC
WOULD BE A SECURE COST EFFECTIVE
RESOURCE FOR THE SECRETARY OF
STATE AND CALIFORNIA'S 58 LOCAL
ELECTION OFFICIALS. I SHARED A
HANDOUT WITH YOU THAT PROVIDES
SOME ADDITIONAL FACTS. I THINK
THAT THE CHAR DID A FANTASTIC
JOB OF HITTING ON SOME OF THE
MOST CURRENT RELEVANT POINTS
ABOUT ERIC THAT I'D BE HAPPY TO
SPEAK TO MORE. UM AND I'D BE
HAPPY TO END EXPAND ON ANY OF
THE TOPICS COVERED IN THE REALLY
THOROUGH BILL ANALYSIS AS WELL.
SO AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF
A B 1250 OR 2050. HØI. GOOD
MORNING. UM MY NAME IS TRISHA
WEBER. I AM THE CO LEGISLATIVE
CHAIR OR THE CO-CHAIR FOR THE
LEGISLATIVE ARM OF THE
CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF CLERK
AND ELECTION OFFICIALS. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH FOR HAVING ME HERE
TODAY. I FEEL AND I'M TRYING NOT
TO IGNORE YOU GUYS OVER THERE.
UM WE ARE PROUD TO SPONSOR
ASSEMBLY BILL 2050 FOR THE USE
OF ERIC IN, UH, CALIFORNIA IT
WOULD BE A WONDERFUL TOOL AS YOU
HAVE HEARD FOR ELECTION
OFFICIALS. ONE OF OUR PRIMARY
GOALS IS TO BE PROVIDE ACCESS TO
THE BALLOT FOR OUR VOTERS. AND
BY USING ERIC DATA, WE WOULD BE
ABLE TO CLEAN UP OUR VOTER ROLLS
, AND WE WOULD ALSO BE ABLE TO
HELP OUTREACH TO PEOPLE WHO ARE
ELIGIBLE TO REGISTER BUT HAVE
NOT CURRENTLY REGISTERED. MORE
ACCESS TO THE BALLOT FOR
CALIFORNIA VOTERS. WE STRONGLY
URGE THAT YOU UH UH, APPROVE
THIS BILL. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.
WELL, THANK YOU. OK, DO WE HAVE
ANY? AH WITNESSES IN THE ROOM
THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD
AND SHOW THEIR SUPPORT FOR THIS
PARTICULAR MEASURE. OKAY, SAYING
NONE HAVE OUR OPPOSITION. NÓ
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION. ANYBODY
IN THE CROWD LIKE TO EXPRESS
OPPOSITION AT ALL? VERY GOOD.
OK? OKAY WE HAVE A FIRST AND A
SECOND. WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO
THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS. ANY
COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? MISTER
SALLIE, YOU MAY GO. THANK YOU,
MR CHAIR. UM I JUST HAVE A FEW
QUESTIONS. UH REGARDING, UH, HOW
WE CAN CLEAN UP THE ROLES. I
THINK WE ALL SUPPORT VOTER
REGISTRATION. I THINK IT SHOULD
JUST BE AS EASY TO REMOVE A
VOTER AS IT IS TO ADD A VOTER,
SO I WANNA UNDERSTAND EXACTLY
WHAT ERIC TAKES INTO ACCOUNT IN
DETERMINING THE ELIGIBILITY OF A
VOTER. YOU MENTIONED THAT IT
COULD PULL DEATH RECORDS
CORRECT. YES OK, SO THAT'S FROM
SOCIAL SECURITY. OR WHERE DOES
THAT COME FROM? THE SOCIAL
SECURITY ADMINISTRATION AND THEN
FOR, UH PEOPLE WHO HAVE MOVED,
YOU'RE RELYING ON NEW VOTER
REGISTRATION RECORDS IN OTHER
STATES, AS WELL AS Dð M VÆ
RECORDS IN OTHER STATES, AS WELL
AS Dð M VÆ RECORDS, AND IT'S
ONLY FOR PARTICIPATING STATES,
OR ARE YOU ABLE TO PULL RECORDS
FROM NON PARTICIPATING? ONLY
PARTICIPATING STATES? WHAT ABOUT
NONCITIZEN? WE DO NOT COLLECT
DATA ON NON NON NONCITIZEN. AND
I CAN EXPLAIN THAT IN A SECOND
AND WE DO NOT COLLECT DATA ON
AFFIRMATIVE DATA ON CITIZENSHIP,
EITHER, SO WE DON'T COLLECT DATA
ON NON NON CITIZENS FOR A
VARIETY OF REASONS. UH,
PRIMARILY BECAUSE AGAIN LOOK AT
OUR DATA SOURCES. Dð M VÆ
RECORDS PHOTO RECORDS, SOCIAL
SECURITY DOT DATA N, èC Ó AND
NATIONAL CHANGE OF ADDRESS DATA.
THE ONLY DATA SET IN THERE THAT
MAY HAVE CITIZENSHIP DATA IS Dð
M VÆ DATA, HOWEVER, IT CAN BE
UNRELIABLE BECAUSE IT CAN CHANGE
OVER TIME AS PEOPLE ARE ON A
PATH TO CITIZENSHIP OR THEIR
STATUS MAY CHANGE BECAUSE IT IS
NOT VERY RELIABLE. IT'S ONE OF
THE REASONS WE DON'T COLLECT IT.
SO WHAT THE STATES WHAT OUR
MEMBERS DO IS WHEN THEY GET THE
REPORT BACK THAT IDENTIFIES
INDIVIDUALS WHO MAY BE ELIGIBLE.
THEY FILTER THEM OFF IF THEY
HAVE ACCESS TO INFORMATION ON
NON NON CITIZENS, SO THAT THEY
DO NOT GET A MAILING OR WHEN
THEY DO CONDUCT THE MAILING. IT
INCLUDES VERY CLEARLY THE
ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS IN
ORDER TO REGISTER INCLUDING THAT
YOU MUST BE A CITIZEN. SO YOU
RELY THE STATES ARE RESPONSIBLE
FOR DETERMINING THE CITIZENSHIP
STATUS OF A RESPONSIBLE TO THEIR
RESPONSIBLE FOR TAKING THE
ELIGIBLE BUT UNREGISTERED REPORT
AND REMOVING ANYONE THEY KNOW
NOT TO BE ELIGIBLE AND TO DO
WHAT THEY CAN TO MITIGATE THE
RISKS OF AN INELIGIBLE
INDIVIDUAL RECEIVING THE REPORT
THE POSTCARD MAILING, AND IF
THEY DO RECEIVE IT AGAIN, IT'S
VERY CLEAR ON THE MAILING WHAT
THE ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS ARE
OK, BUT IF YOU IF WE IF THE
STATE IS GIVEN RECORDS, SAYING,
THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO AREN'T
REGISTERED TO VOTE, AND YOU'RE
NOT DETERMINING WHETHER THEY'RE
CITIZENS OR NOT. HOW DOES THE
STATE MAKE THAT DETERMINATION?
IT DEPENDS ON WHAT DATA THEY
HAVE ACCESS TO AND HOW THEIR Dð
M VÆ DOES COLLECT CITIZENSHIP
DATA AND WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S
RECORDED AND TRANSMITTED ON TO
THE ELECTIONS OFFICIAL. SO IT IS
IT IS ON A STATE BY STATE BASIS,
AND IT IS IN THE MEMBERS CONTROL
AND RESPONSIBILITY TO HANDLE
THAT. WELL, I'LL ASK. SINCE
YOU'RE AN EXPERT IN THIS AREA.
HOW WOULD THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA CONFIRM THE IS
CITIZENSHIP STATUS OF A
POTENTIALLY ELIGIBLE OR DATA
THAT'S PROVIDED FROM THE AIR
SYSTEM? SO I MEAN, WELL AS HE
WAS SAYING THAT WE DO NOT GET
THE 86 DATA FROM OUR CALIFORNIA
Dð M VÆ. SO THOSE ARE PEOPLE WHO
GET DRIVER'S LICENSES WHO ARE
NOT CITIZENS, SO IT WOULD NOT
EVEN BE COMING TO US. BUT WHAT
IF THEY GIVE YOU DATA? THIS
PERSON'S MOVED INTO YOUR STATE
AND THEY'RE NOT IN OUR Dð M VÆ
SYSTEM. HOW WOULD WE CONFIRM IF
THEY'RE A CITIZEN OR NOT? IF
THEY'RE NOT IN THE Dð N. IF
THEY'RE NOT IN THE CALIFORNIA Dð
M VÆ SYSTEM, THEY WOULDN'T BE ON
THE ELIGIBLE TO UNREGISTERED
REPORT. OK SO ONLY PEOPLE WHO
ARE IN OUR Dð M VÆ DATABASE WILL
BE CORRECTED FOR PURPOSES OF
REGISTRATION. WELL ONLY PEOPLE
WHO ARE IN YOUR Dð M VÆ
DATABASE. WHO HAVE NOT BEEN
EXCLUDED, SUCH AS THE, UH, THE
LICENSE HOLDER. SHE WAS JUST
REFERRING TO WOULD BE ON THAT
REPORT, AND ONLY IF THEY'RE NOT
REGISTERED. SO THE ELIGIBLE BUT
UNREGISTERED REPORT INCLUDES
ONLY INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE A
CALIFORNIA DRIVER'S LICENSE OR I
Dð CARD. AND WHO MOVED INTO THE
STATE WHO HAVE ONE OF THOSE AND
WHO ARE NOT ON YOUR VOTER ROLLS
AND WHO HAVE NOT BEEN EXCLUDED
IN THE UPLOAD. BASED ON THE
OTHER CONDITIONS. I GET THE
ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT DRIVER'S
LICENSES. I GET THAT, BUT THERE
ARE ALSO LEGAL RESIDENTS WHO ARE
HAVE DRIVER'S LICENSES. SO WHAT
ABOUT THOSE PEOPLE WHO MOVE? ARE
THEY GONNA BE SOLICITED FOR
REGISTRATION IF THERE IS A WAY
TO EXCLUDE THEM FROM THE Dð M VÆ
FILE, UPLOAD TO ERIC. THEY WILL
BE EXCLUDED. DO YOU KNOW MISS
PELLERIN? IF WE DO THAT, AND
WE'RE TALKING NOT ABOUT ILLEGAL
IMMIGRANTS, BUT WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT MAYBE GREEN CARD HOLDERS,
OR, UH, SOME OTHER PEOPLE WHO
DON'T HAVE FULL CITIZENSHIP
STATUS NOW, BUT I SO, UM SO WHEN
YOU GO INTO THE Dð, M, VÆ AND
SORRY. OUT LOUD. UM WHEN YOU GO
INTO THE Dð, M VÆ AND YOU DO THE
Dð, UH, DRIVER'S LICENSE PROCESS
, YOU ARE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY
TO REGISTER TO VOTE AND YOU HAVE
TO GO AND GIVE YOUR DATA IN
ORDER TO ATTEST TO YOUR
ELIGIBILITY. AND UM, THAT'S THE
SAME AS IF YOU FILL OUT A VOTER
REGISTRATION CARD. YOU ATTEST TO
YOUR ELIGIBILITY IN ORDER TO BE
REGISTERED TO VOTE WHEN WE
RECEIVE A VOTER REGISTRATION,
REGARDLESS OF WHAT PATH IT COMES
TO US, WHETHER IT'S AN
ELECTRONIC THROUGH THE ONLINE
SYSTEM THROUGH THE Dð M VÆ OR
THROUGH A PAPER CARD, WE HAVE TO
RUN IT THROUGH A CHECK WHERE IT
GOES AGAINST OTHER DATA TO
DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THE
VOTER IS ELIGIBLE, AND IT'S NOT
JUST LOOKING TO SEE WHAT THEIR
CITIZENSHIP STATUS IS GOING
AGAINST THIS OTHER THESE OTHER
THINGS. IT'S ALSO LOOKING, YOU
KNOW, UM UH UH DO ARE THEY
ELIGIBLE? DO ARE THEY NOT
ELIGIBLE? BECAUSE THEY'RE YOU
KNOW, IN PRISON OR SOMETHING TO
THAT EFFECT. IT'S CHECKING ALL
OF THE ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS,
AND IT SENDS BACK A REPORT WHEN
WE DO THE REGISTRATION ON
WHETHER WE CAN MAKE THEM AN
ACTIVE VOTER, OR WHETHER WE HAVE
TO PEN THEM IN ORDER TO GET
FURTHER INFORMATION, SO THAT'S
ALREADY A SYSTEM THAT'S BUILT
INTO OUR REGISTRATION DATA. OK
UM AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE Dð M
VÆ REGISTRATION PROGRAM BECAUSE
YOU HAVE ANOTHER BILL. ON THE Dð
M VÆ MOTORBOAT OR THINK WE'RE
DOING THAT TODAY. SOMEBODY DOES
IT? OH, IT OH, I LIKE I READ
ABOUT THAT. WHEN IT COMES UP,
OK? YEAH YEAH. SO I, I, UH SO
JUST A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS. SO
UH, IS YOU ARE YOU SAYING THAT
THIS TOOL WILL BE PRIMARILY USED
TO CLEAN UP VOTER ROLLS BECAUSE
I THINK CALIFORNIA DOES A PRETTY
ROBUST JOB OF ALREADY. TRYING TO
GET ANYONE WHO INTERACTS WITH
THE Dð M VÆ TO REGISTER TO VOTE.
SO IS THIS PRIMARILY A CLEANUP
TOOL? IS THIS WHAT YOU'RE
SAYING? ERIC THE ERIC SYSTEM.
WELL I I'LL SPEAK FROM THE
REGISTRARS POINT OF VIEW, ALL
DATA THAT WE CAN GET IN ORDER
HAVE ACCESS TO IN ORDER TO CLEAN
UP OUR REGISTRATION ROLLS IS
WELCOME DATA AND ONE THING THAT
ERIC WILL PROVIDE THAT OTHER.
UH, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ACCESS
TO IS IF SOMEBODY, UM, PASSES
AWAY OUT OF STATE, WE DIDN'T IT.
IT COULD BE YEARS AND YEARS AND
YEARS BEFORE WE WOULD FIND OUT
THAT THAT PASSED AWAY. UM
ANOTHER ONE IS WHEN PEOPLE MOVE
OUT OF STATE AND RE-REGISTER,
IT'S INCUMBENT ON THEM, WRITING
ON THEIR NEW REGISTRATION FORM
THAT THEY WERE REGISTERED IN
CALIFORNIA, THEN IT THAT STATE
THEN HAS TO SEND IT TO THE
SECRETARY OF STATE TO FILTER IT
TO THE COUNTY LEVEL. SO UM, THIS
WOULD GIVE MORE INFORMATION IN A
QUICKER METHOD. IF SOMEBODY, UH,
IS NÓ LONGER A CALIFORNIA VOTER,
OK AND THEN, UM JUST LAST FEW
QUESTIONS. UM JUST SO I
UNDERSTAND. SO YOU, UM LET'S SAY
YOU'RE COUNTY R Ó VÆ AND YOU
GET DATA. THIS PERSON HAS MOVED
OUT OF STATE. WHAT WOULD YOU DO
WITH THAT? I WOULD PLACE THE
VOTER, UM IN IN WHAT'S KNOWN AS
AN INACTIVE STATE. I WOULD AND I
WOULD SEND OUT A NOTIFICATION
SAYING WE CALL IT IN OUR OFFICE
THE HEY VOTER ONE, BUT IT'S A
LITTLE NICER THAN THAT. BUT IT
BASICALLY THE NOTICE SAYS, HEY,
VOTER, WE RECEIVED INFORMATION
THAT YOU MOVED OUT OF STATE. IS
THIS TRUE? AND THEN WE MAIL IT
TO THE ADDRESS THAT WE HAVE, AND
THEN THE VOTER HAS A POSTCARD
THAT THEY CAN FILL OUT TO SAY
YES, IT'S TRUE OR NÓ. IT'S NOT
AND THEN IT COMES BACK TO US
POSTAGE PAID AND THEN WE DO OUR
VOTER FILE MAINTENANCE FROM
THERE. IF IT COMES BACK, SAYING,
YES, IT'S TRUE. I'VE MOVED AND
THEY'VE SIGNED IT. WE CAN CANCEL
THE REGISTRATION. WHAT IF THEY
DON'T RESPOND? THEN IT STAYS IN
THE INACTIVE STATE FOR AN
EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME. AND
THEN THERE'S MORE VOTER FILE
MAINTENANCE THAT WE DO DOWN THE
ROAD TO EVENTUALLY CANCEL THEM
OUT. SO AS SOON AS YOU GET DATA
FROM ERIC AND I READ THE BYLAWS,
YOU ARE REQUIRED TO REACH OUT TO
THAT VOTER. SO YOU DO THAT. A
POSTCARD. RIGHT? AND THEN YOU,
UM AS YOU SEND THAT POSTCARD
OUT, YOU'RE SIMULTANEOUSLY
MOVING THEM INTO INACTIVE VOTER
LIST. WHICH MEANS WHAT? THEY
WON'T BE GIVEN A MAIL BALLOT.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? YEAH SO
THEY WON'T GET SENT OUT A MAIL
BALLOT. AND THEN, UH, THE
POSTCARD GOES OUT. TO CONFIRM
THEIR IN ELIGIBILITY OR OR IF IT
WAS A MISTAKE OR SOMETHING. UH
SO IF THEY RESPOND, YOU WOULD
DEAL WITH IT. IF THEY DON'T
RESPOND. THEY REMAIN ON THE
INACTIVE VOTER FILE. IF I THINK
AT LEAST TWO YEARS, THREE 422
GENERALS THAT'S UNDER EIGHT
YEARS THAT'S NÓ NÓ OK, NOT
PRESIDENTIAL JUST TOO AND THEN
THEY WOULD BE, UH, EVENTUALLY
REMOVED. AND IS THAT A
CONSISTENT PRACTICE THROUGH THE
R? Ó VÆ STATEWIDE? YES THAT IS
THE LAW. THAT IS THE LAW. OK,
WELL, THAT THAT IS, UM THAT IS
HELPFUL. UM UH, AND, UH, YEAH, I
, I I'M I I'VE READ. YOU KNOW
THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN
RAISED ABOUT THIS MOSTLY ABOUT,
UM YOU KNOW HOW THIS THE DATA IS
STORED THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT I
MOST CONCERNED WITH MAKING SURE
WE HAVE ACCURATE UP TO DATE
VOTER ROLLS. AND SO, UM, IF THIS
COULD BE A TOOL ON THAT I DO
HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT OUR
MOTOR VOTER PROGRAM, WHICH I
WILL TAKE UP WITH ON THE ON THE
OTHER BILL, BUT, UH, BUT, I, YOU
KNOW, GENERALLY SUPPORT CLEANING
UP TOOLS TO CLEAN UP OUR VOTER
ROLLS. SO THANK YOU. OK, DO WE
HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I JUST
WANT TO THANK THE AUTHOR FOR
STICKING WITH THIS, UH, YOU
KNOW, IT'S AN IMPORTANT PROGRAM.
IT'S A PROGRAM THAT, AS WE JUST
HEARD, CAN HELP CLEAN UP OUR
VOTER ROLLS. UH AND REALLY
APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS
BACK AND LEADING THIS EFFORT. I
THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. UM HAPPY
TO SUPPORT IT TODAY. THANK YOU
SO MUCH. YEAH. ANY OTHER
COMMENTS. AND YOU MAKE CLOTHES.
I RESPECTFULLY ASK, I VOTE. OK,
WELL, LET'S CALL FOR THE
QUESTION, PLEASE. THE MOTION IS
DUE PASS AND BE REREFER TO THE
COMMITTEE ON PRIVACY AND
CONSUMER PROTECTION. TELL HER IN
PELLERIN. I LACKEY NOT VOTING
LACKEY NOT VOTING. BENNETT
BENNETT. I BERMAN BERMAN, I
CERVANTES CERVANTES. I SI I AI I
LO FANTA OR FANTA. I. 60 OK, OK,
SOUNDS GOOD. I WANT TO EUROPE.
YOU MAY BEGIN WHEN READY. THANK
YOU. CHAIR AND MEMBER. A 2041 IN
RESPONSE TO THE ALARMING
INCREASE IN POLITICAL VIOLENCE
DIRECTED TOWARDS ELECTED
OFFICIALS AND CANDIDATES FOR
OFFICE AS PUBLIC SERVANTS. THERE
IS MUCH WE HUMBLY AND WILLINGLY
SACRIFICE TO SERVE, INCLUDING
SPENDING TIME WITH FAMILY AND
MAINTAINING OUR PRIVACY. HOWEVER
THE ONE THING WE SHOULD NEVER
HAVE TO SACRIFICE IS OUR SENSE
OF SAFETY OR THE SAFETY OF OUR
FAMILIES AND THOSE WHO WORK
CLOSELY WITH US. UNFORTUNATELY
WE HAVE SEEN A RISE IN THREATS
AGAINST CANDIDATES AND PUBLIC
OFFICIALS, ESPECIALLY WOMEN. AND
HARASSMENT OF STAFF SERVING OUR
CONSTITUENTS. A 2023 STUDY
CONDUCTED BY THE CALIFORNIA
WOMEN'S LIST FOUND 42% OF WOMEN
ENCOUNTERED STALKING AT LEAST
ONCE WHILE ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL
WITH ALMOST ONE IN FIVE
EXPERIENCING IT FREQUENTLY OR
VERY FREQUENTLY. THIS RATE IS 15
TIMES HIGHER THAN THAT REPORTED
BY MEN. THIS DISPARITY IS MORE
PRONOUNCED AMONG WOMEN OF COLOR,
WHICH WAS NEARLY 55% IN L GB Tð
Q, PLUS WOMEN, WHICH WAS FOUND
TO BE NEARLY 50 3% A B 2041 AIMS
TO PROTECT CANDIDATES ELECTED
OFFICIALS, THEIR FAMILIES AND
STAFF BY AUTHORIZING PERSONAL
SECURITY AS A CAMPAIGN EXPENSE
AND EXPANDING ELIGIBILITY FOR
SECURITY. IN ADDITION, IT
ELIMINATES THE $5000 LIFETIME
CAP ON SECURITY EXPENSES USING
PAY FUNDS, WHICH HAS NOT BEEN
ADJUSTED IN 30 YEARS. LASTLY A B
2041 REMOVES THE REQUIREMENT FOR
A VERIFIED THREAT BY LAW
ENFORCEMENT TO REIMBURSE A
SECURITY EXPENSE. THIS IS A
REINTRODUCTION OF A B 37, WHICH
CLARIFIED LANGUAGE REGARDING
WHAT CAN BE CONSIS CONSIDERED A
SECURITY EXPENSE, ALONG WITH
TECHNICAL LANGUAGE AROUND
REPORTING THE EXPENSES TO ENSURE
TRANSPARENCY. WE HAVE WORKED
EXTENSIVELY ON THIS LANGUAGE
WITH THE FP èC CANDIDATE.
SECURITY IS A NONPARTISAN ISSUE
AND HAS PREVIOUSLY RECEIVED
BIPARTISAN SUPPORT. WITH ME
TODAY IS AUDREY ROCHE, WHO WHO
WHO WILL BE SHARING TESTIMONY ON
BEHALF OF THE ORANGE COUNTY
DISTRICT ATTORNEY TODD SPITZER.
GOOD MORNING CHAIR AND MEMBERS
AUDREY FROM CRUISE STRATEGIES ON
BEHALF OF THE ORANGE COUNTY
DISTRICT ATTORNEY TODD SPITZER.
I'M HERE TODAY IN SUPPORT OF A B
2041 BY ASSEMBLY MEMBER BONTA
AND THANK HER FOR BRINGING THIS
MUCH NEEDED LEGISLATION FORWARD.
THIS BILL PROVIDES NECESSARY
CHANGES IN LAW TO PROTECT THE
SAFETY OF ELECTED OFFICIALS AND
THEIR FAMILIES. UNDER CURRENT
CALIFORNIA CAMPAIGN LAWS,
CAMPAIGNS CAN PAY FOR IN HOME OR
OFFICE SECURITY SYSTEMS, BUT
THAT IS LIMITED SOLELY FOR THE
PROTECTION OF THE CANDIDATE OR
ELECTED OFFICIAL ONCE THE THREAT
HAS BEEN VERIFIED BY LAW,
ENFORCE AGENCY, AND THERE'S A
$5000 LIFETIME CAP ON CAMPAIGN
SECURITY EXPENSES THAT HAS NOT
BEEN ADJUSTED FOR INFLATION OR
THE COST OF LIVING. THE CAP
NEEDS TO BE UPDATED TO REFLECT
THE CURRENT COST MARKET FOR HOME
ALARM SYSTEMS AND OTHER SECURITY
PROTECTION MEASURES WHICH EASILY
EXCEED THE CAP. THE PROCESS IS
TRANSPARENT AND ALL OF THESE
SECURITY EXPENSES ARE REPORTED
ON THE APPROPRIATE CAMPAIGN
FINANCE REPORTS OF THE CANDIDATE
OR OFFICE HOLDER. A B 2041
EXPANDS ACCESS TO SECURITY BY
ALLOWING ADDITIONAL TYPES OF
SECURITY EXPENSES TO BE ALLOWED
FOR REIMBURSEMENT, REMOVING THE
CAP ON SECURITY EXPENSES AND
EXPANDING ELIGIBILITY TO INCLUDE
FAMILY MEMBERS AND STAFF OF THE
ELECTED OFFICIAL OR CANDIDATE.
AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL FOR OVER
TWO DECADES, Dð A. SPITZER AND
HIS FAMILY HAVE EXPERIENCED
NUMEROUS CONCERNING THREATS,
INCLUDING A STALKER THAT HAS
SHOWN UP AT HIS HOME MULTIPLE
TIMES. THROUGHOUT HIS CAREER, HE
HAS HAD TO IMPLEMENT A MYRIAD OF
NECESSARY SECURITY PROTECTIONS
THAT FAR EXCEED THE CAP ALLOWED
UNDER CURRENT UM, WE ARE
WORKING. WITH THE AUTHOR. AND,
UM THAT AMENDMENT LANGUAGE IS IN
THERE. SO FOR THESE REASONS WE
SUPPORT UM EB 2041 AND URGE YOUR
SUPPORT TODAY. THANK YOU. ARE
THERE ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL
WITNESSES WHO WOULD LIKE TO
REGISTER THEIR SUPPORT FOR THIS
BILL? GOOD MORNING, JOHNNY PENA
WITH THE LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA
CITIES IN STRONG SUPPORT. THANK
YOU. GOOD MORNING, MARIA MORALES
ON BEHALF OF HISPANA ORGANIZER.
POLITICAL EQUALITY AND SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. WE WILL NOW MOVE ON
TO THE PRIMARY WITNESSES AND
OPPOSITION. UM ARE THERE ANY
ANYBODY HERE IN OPPOSITION TO
THE BILL? ANYONE WHO WANTS TO
JUST REGISTER IN OPPOSITION. èC
N N. WE'LL MOVE IT BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE ANY QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS? YEAH JUST A QUICK
QUESTION. UH, AS, UH MANY MAY
KNOW A B 37 WAS SIMILAR TO THIS,
UH, THIS BILL AND WE KNOW THAT
THE GOVERNOR EXPRESSED SOME
CONCERN AS HE VETOED THE BILL,
BUT HE INDICATED HIS CONCERN WAS
, UH, THE BROAD POTENTIAL
INTERPRETATION OF SECURITY
EXPENSES AS THIS BILL ADDRESSED
THAT CONCERN BECAUSE I WAS
TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW IT DID
THAT AND WAS ON IT WHEN IT
UNABLE TO DO THAT. SO IF YOU
COULD CLARIFY THAT, I APPRECIATE
THAT. I? IT HAS ADDRESSED THE
CONCERN. I THINK THE CONCERN
EXPRESSED BY THE GOVERNOR WAS
LARGELY BASED IN THE NOTION THAT
, UH, WE DIDN'T WANT ELECTED
OFFICIALS TO BE ABLE TO, UH, USE
THIS, UH, USE THIS OPPORTUNITY
TO PROVIDE, UM MILITIA,
ESSENTIALLY, UH ARMED ARMED
PEOPLE TO IN KIND OF IN EXCESS.
SO, UH, WE'VE ADDRESSED THOSE
CONCERNS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS FROM COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
I BELIEVE WE HAVE A MOTION WAS
THAT BERMAN, WHO MOTION TO HAVE
A SECOND SECOND CERVANTES. ALL
RIGHT, LET'S GO AHEAD AND CALL
THE ROLL. 00 I'M SORRY. WOULD
YOU LIKE TO CLOSE AND THANK YOU.
I JUST WANNA THANK YOU ALSO FOR
YOUR CONTINUED WORK IN THIS
ISSUE AREA. UH, THE INCREASE IN
POLITICAL VIOLENCE AND THREATS
IS A REAL PHENOMENON IN THIS
BILL WILL GIVE CANDIDATES AN
ELECTED OFFICIALS ADDITIONAL
TOOLS TO PROTECT THEMSELVES
THEIR FAMILIES. SO GO AHEAD AND
CLOSE THIS THANK YOU. UH, THIS
IS AN IMPACTFUL BILL. I THINK
THAT WE CAN ALL TALK ABOUT
SOMEBODY EITHER A CANDIDATE OR
AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, A STAFF
MEMBER, A FAMILY MEMBER WHO'S
BEEN IMPACTED BY SENSE OF
SAFETY. AND I, UH, VERY
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR I
BOOK. THIS BILL ENJOYS A SUPPORT
POSITION, SO THANK YOU. ON A B
2041 BY BONTA. THE MOTION IS DUE
PASS AND BE RE REFERRED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS PIN
PIN. I LACKEY NOT VOTING LACKEY
NOT VOTING BENNETT. BERMAN
BERMAN. I CERVANTES CERVANTES, I
EI AI. I LO LOW. I BONTA. I.
THAT BUILDS OUT 6 TO 0. THANK
YOU. OK, WE'RE IN CALIFORNIA.
SELLING ON BOURBON. BOURBON. ARE
YOU READY? AND LET'S TAKE CARE
OF OUR CONSENT CALENDAR. NOW
THAT WE HAVE A QUORUM. CAN YOU
RAISE THE DO I HAVE A FIRST?
READ THE ITEMS. OK ON THE
CONSENT CALENDAR. WE HAVE THREE
ITEMS A B 2001 BY GALLAGHER. THE
MOTION IS DUE PASS AND WE REFER
TO THE COMMITTEE ON
APPROPRIATIONS WITH
RECOMMENDATION TO CONSENT
CALENDAR. THE SECOND IS A B 2582
BY PALLOR AND THE MOTION IS DUE
PASS AS AMENDED AND RE REFER TO
THE COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATION
WITH RECOMMENDATION TO CONSENT
CALENDAR. THE THIRD ITEM IS A B
2631 BY MIKE FONG. THE MOTION IS
TO PASS AND RE REFER TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATION WITH
RECOMMENDATION TO CONSENT
CALENDAR. DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR
PASSING THE CONSENT CALENDAR
SEC. THANK YOU. GO AHEAD AND
CALL THE ROLL. HELEN I HEER AND
I LACKY LACKEY. I BENNETT FF I,
CERVANTES CERVANTES. I ACE ACE.
I LOW LOW. I BONTA I BONTA I THE
CONSENT CALENDAR IS OUT. THANK
YOU, ASSEMBLY MEMBER BERMAN AND
YOU'RE PRESENTING A B 2127 TODAY
. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR AND
COLLEAGUES. CALIFORNIA'S NEW
MOTOR VOTER LAW HAS BEEN A
SUCCESS WITH MORE THAN 25
MILLION NEW OR UPDATED VOTER
REGISTRATIONS SINCE IT LAUNCHED
IN 2018. NOTWITHSTANDING THE
SIGNIFICANT ACCOMPLISHMENT THERE
HAVE BEEN CHALLENGES MODERNIZING
THE VOTER REGISTRATION PROCESS
AT THE Dð M VÆ, ULTIMATELY
RESULTING IN LITIGATION AND
SETTLEMENT CREATE AND SETTLEMENT
CREATED OVERSIGHT MECHANISMS. I
AUTHORED LEGISLATION IN 2021. TO
CODIFY MANY OF THE BEST
PRACTICES FROM THE SETTLEMENT,
AS WELL AS ESTABLISH THE NEW
MOTOR VOTER TASK FORCE TO
CONTINUE MONITORING THE LAWS OF
ROLL OUT AND ADVISE THE
SECRETARY OF STATE AND Dð M VÆ
ON ITS EFFECTIVE IMPLEMENTATION.
SEVERAL PROVISIONS FOR MY PRIOR
BILL WILL NOT GO INTO EFFECT
UNTIL AT LEAST JULY 2025 AND THE
Dð M VÆ MAY NEED EVEN MORE TIME.
A B 2127 WOULD EXTEND THE
OPERATION OF THE TASK FORCE IN
ORDER TO PROVIDE CONTINUED
OVERSIGHT AND TO ENSURE PROPER
IMPLEMENTATION IN THE FULL
EFFECTIVENESS OF OUR NEW MOTOR
ROTOR LAW. ACCORDINGLY I
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST AND I VOTE
ON A B 2127 AND I'M JOINED TODAY
BY BRITTANY STONES. UH, STONES
STONE CIPHER. ON CIPHER. UH, WHO
IS AN ATTORNEY FOR THE A èC LU
AND A MEMBER OF THE NEW MOTOR
VOTER TASK FORCE. GOOD MORNING.
UM MY NAME IS BRITNEY STONESIFER
ON BEHALF OF A èC LU CALIFORNIA
ACTION AND A PROUD COSPONSOR OF
A 2127. WE WORK TO ENSURE THAT
CALIFORNIA'S DEMOCRACY IS
ACCESSIBLE TO ALL VOTERS,
INCLUDING HISTORICALLY
UNDERREPRESENTED GROUPS WITH OUR
PARTNERS. WE SPENT MANY YEARS
ADVOCATING TO INCREASE THE
FAIRNESS AND EFFICIENCY OF THE
VOTER REGISTRATION SYSTEM AT THE
Dð M VÆ. THE CURRENT NEW MOTOR
VOTER SYSTEM IS A BY-PRODUCT OF
THAT ONGOING COLLABORATION SINCE
ITS ROLL OUT IN 2018, THE NEW
MOTOR VOTER PROGRAM HAS BECOME
ONE OF THE MOST POWERFUL TOOLS
THAT OUR STATE HAS FOR
MAINTAINING ACCURATE VOTER ROLLS
AND REGISTERING NEW VOTERS. AND
LESS THAN SIX YEARS AS YOU HEARD
FROM A SIMILAR MEMBER BERMAN.
THE PROGRAM HAS RESULTED IN
NEARLY 25 MILLION NEW OR UPDATED
VOTER REGISTRATIONS. THE Dð M.
VÆ IS NOW THE TOP REGISTRATION
METHOD FOR YOUTH AND VOTERS OF
COLOR. THIS PROGRAM'S SUCCESS,
UH, RELIES ON ACTIVE MONITORING
GUIDANCE FROM STAKEHOLDERS. THIS
IS WHY THE LEGISLATURE
ESTABLISHED THE TASK FORCE IN
2021 FORMALLY CONVENING
STAKEHOLDERS OF THE Dð M VÆ AND
THE SECRETARY OF STATE. SINCE
THEN, THE TASK FORCE HAS
PROVIDED VISIBILITY INTO ISSUES
AT THE Dð M VÆ. AND DEVELOPED
GUIDANCE AND STREAMLINED
REGISTRATION FORMS. THE TASK
FORCE PUBLISHES ANNUAL REPORTS
THAT ARE INVALUABLE RESOURCES
FOR THE PUBLIC LAWMAKERS AND
ADVOCATES. BUT DESPITE ITS
SUCCESSES, THE TASK FORCE WILL
SUNSET AT THE END OF THIS YEAR
UNLESS IT'S EXTENDED. THE Dð M
VÆ IS CURRENTLY ENGAGED IN A
MAJOR OVERHAUL OF ITS SOFTWARE
SYSTEMS, DELAYING MANDATED
IMPROVEMENTS AND CRITICAL
UPDATES THAT WILL MAXIMIZE THE
PROGRAM'S ABILITY TO ENGAGE
POTENTIAL VOTERS. IF THE TASK
FORCE EXPIRES AT THE END OF THIS
YEAR SCHEDULED WILL LOSE THE
NECESSARY TOOL FOR EFFICIENTLY
AND TRANSPARENTLY IMPLEMENTING
THESE CHANGES. MAYBE 2127 WILL
EXTEND PUBLIC OVERSIGHT AND
TECHNICAL GUIDANCE DURING THIS
PERIOD OF COMPLEX TRANSITION FOR
THESE REASONS, I RESPECTFULLY
ASK YOUR I VOTE AND I'M HAPPY TO
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE
COMMITTEE HAS. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. ARE THERE ANY
OTHER ADDITIONAL WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT OR ANYONE WHO WANTS TO
REGISTER SUPPORT FOR THIS BILL?
GOOD MORNING CHAIR MEMBERS. DOOR
ROSE, DEPUTY DIRECTOR WITH THE
LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS OF
CALIFORNIA. WE ARE A PROUD CO
SPONSORS OF THIS BILL AND ALSO
MEMBERS OF THE SECRETARY OF
STATE TASK FORCE. THANK YOU.
ERIC HARRIS. DISABILITY RIGHTS
CALIFORNIA SUPPORT. HØI LAUREL
BRUDZINSKI ON BEHALF OF
CALIFORNIA COMMON CAUSE AND
SUPPORT THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANYBODY HERE IN OPPOSITION TO
THE BILL? NÓ WE MOVE IT TO THE
COMMITTEE FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS. MR SALLIE. THANK YOU.
UH OK, PICKING UP ON SORT OF THE
LAST SERIES OF QUESTIONS. I
WANNA I WANNA REALLY UNDERSTAND
HOW THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA
CONFIRMS THE ELIGIBILITY OF THE
VOTER WHO INTERACTS WITH THE Dð
M VÆ. SO I APPRECIATE THE
QUESTION STATUS. I APPRECIATE
THE QUESTION. UH I'M HERE TO
TALK ABOUT THIS BILL. NOW THE
BILL IS TO EXTEND A TASK FORCE
THAT PROVIDES TRANSPARENCY AND
ACCOUNTABILITY AND OVERSIGHT OF
THE Dð M VÆ S¼ IMPLEMENTATION OF
THE LAW. AND SO THIS BILL IS
ABOUT THE TASK FORCE, NOT ABOUT
THE UNDERLYING LAW. BUT WHAT IS
THE TASK FORCE DOING ABOUT
ALLOWING PEOPLE WHO AREN'T
CITIZENS TO REGISTER AND VOTE
THAT THAT'S NOT AND THAT'S NOT
HOLD ON. THAT'S NOT MY HOLD ON.
I'M SPEAKING. THAT'S NOT MY
ALLEGATION. YOU WANNA ASK
QUESTIONS? I'LL ASK. I WILL ASK.
EXCUSE ME. AND BE AGGRESSIVE,
THEN WE CAN DO THAT. ONE AT A
TIME, PLEASE. I'M SPEAKING AND I
WILL ALLOW YOU TO ANSWER YOU.
OH, THAT'S KIND OF YOU. THANK
YOU, SIR. YES WELL, YOU'RE
YOU'RE HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS
TO THE COMMITTEE AT THIS TIME
QUESTIONS TO THE BILL, OK? THIS
IS NOT MY ACCUSATIONS. THIS IS
THE Dð M VÆ S¼ ADMISSIONS THAT
THEY ALLOWED 1500 PEOPLE WHO ARE
NOT CITIZENS TO BE, YEAH. ARE
YOU DENYING THAT THAT THEY
ALLOWED 1500? PEOPLE LET YOU
ANSWER YOUR QUESTION AND THEN
ANSWER IT, BECAUSE THAT'S
ALLOWED 1500 PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT
CITIZENS TO INCORRECTLY REGISTER
TO VOTE. IS THAT TRUE OR NOT?
THAT IS NOT TRUE. I'M NOT SURE
WHAT'S WORSE YOU'RE CITING BUT
WHEN THE INITIAL ROLL OUT OF THE
DMV'S CURRENT MOTOR VOTER SYSTEM
, THERE WERE SOME ERRORS IN THE
INITIAL ROLL OUT, BUT THERE WERE
NOT 1500 NON CITIZENS REGISTERED
. MOST OF THOSE WERE DUPLICATE
REGISTRATIONS FOR ELIGIBLE
INDIVIDUALS, AND THOSE WERE, UH,
QUICKLY CONSOLIDATED AND THE
ERRORS THAT WERE INITIALLY IN
THE 2018 ROLL OUT OF THE PROGRAM
HAVE COMPLETELY BEEN RESOLVED,
AND THE TASK FORCE IS AN
ESSENTIAL TOOL FROM MAINTAINING
THE ONGOING EFFICIENCY AND
FUNCTIONALITY OF THE SYSTEM. OK,
SO YOU DON'T CONSIDER THE
ASSOCIATED PRESS. UM ARTICLE
WHERE IT WAS PRINTED LAST YEAR
AT Dð M. VÆ OFFICIALS SAID AN
ERROR MAY HAVE PREVENTED NEARLY
600 PEOPLE FROM VOTING AND
ANOTHER MAY HAVE ALLOWED 1500
PEOPLE, PERHAPS INCLUDING NON
CITIZENS TO INCORRECTLY REGISTER
TO VOTE. ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH
THAT? I JUST LISTENING TO THAT
SENTENCE. IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE
IT SAYS THAT 1500 NON CITIZENS
WERE REGISTERED. IT SAYS THERE
ARE 1500 ERRORS IN POTENTIALLY
INCLUDING NON CITIZENS THROUGH
THE CHAIR. UH, IT'S TO AVOID
BACK AND FORTH. CAN OTHER
COMMITTEE MEMBERS ASK QUESTIONS
AT THIS TIME? THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU SO
MUCH. UH MR BOURBON. THANK YOU
TO THE AUTHOR FOR BRINGING THIS
FORWARD. CAN YOU JUST RESTATE
AGAIN? WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THIS
LEGISLATION IS AND WHAT THE
CRITICAL IMPORTANCE OF THE TASK
FORCE IS ABSOLUTELY THANK YOU
FOR THE QUESTION, SO THE PURPOSE
IS TO EXTEND THE EXISTENCE OF
THE NEW MOTIVATOR TASK FORCE. UH
AND WHAT THAT WILL DO IS, UH UH,
KEY IMPROVEMENTS THAT, UM THAT
THE NEW MODE OF VOTER TAX WERE
TASK FORCE DOES INCLUDE ENHANCED
MONITORING BY COORDINATORS AND
INCREASED TRANSPARENCY FROM
REGULAR REPORTING. UH AND
FURTHERMORE, THE TERMS OF THE
LEAGUE OF WOMEN DAUGHTER
SETTLEMENT, SO THIS IS IN RESULT
TO A LAWSUIT AGAINST THE STATE.
IN A SETTLEMENT OF THAT LAWSUIT,
THOSE EXPIRED IN EARLY 2022 SO
THE PREVIOUS BILL CODIFIED MANY
OF THE BEST PRACTICES. THE TASK
FORCE WAS ESTABLISHED TO ENSURE
THAT MONITORING AND REPORTING
CONTINUED AFTER THE SETTLEMENT
EXPIRED. SO REALLY, WHAT THIS IS
ABOUT IS ACCOUNTABILITY AND
TRANSPARENCY AND OVERSIGHT OF
THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE NEW
MOTOR VOTER BILL, WHICH WAS
CREATED BY FEDERAL LAW IN 1990.
THREE UM, SO THIS IS A TASK
FORCE THAT'S MEANT TO CREATE
TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY
REPORTING AND OVERSIGHT. OF WHAT
THE Dð M VÆ DOES. LET ME ASK
ANOTHER QUESTION HERE. AND I'M
ASSUMING ANY CONCERNS OF THE
COMMITTEE, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO
ADDRESS IN YOUR CLOSING COMMENTS
IN MY CLOTHES AND THE FOLKS FROM
THE COMMITTEE. UH, WANNA WANNA
BRING UP QUESTIONS OR BRING UP?
UM CONCERNS? WE'RE HAPPY TO LOOK
INTO THOSE, UH AND FIGURE OUT
ANSWERS AS THE BILL MOVES TO THE
PROCESS AS WELL, UH, OBVIOUSLY,
IT'S KIND OF HARD TO REACT TO
THINGS THAT, UM CERTAIN
COLLEAGUES HAVEN'T NECESSARILY
AS OF THE OF MY OF MY OFFICE,
ASKING ME AHEAD OF TIME AND THEN
COME IN WITH WITH ENCYCLOPEDIC
KNOWLEDGE OF EVERY ACCUSATION.
UH, THAT'S BEEN BEEN ALLEGED,
UH, BUT OBVIOUSLY HAPPY TO LOOK
AT ALL OF THOSE AND HAPPY TO GET
BACK TO FOLKS AS THE BILL MOVES
TO THE PROCESS. THANK YOU. CHAIR
FOR ALLOWING QUESTIONS. OK WE
HAVE A MOVE TO THE BILL. AND WE
HAVE A SECOND MADAM CHAIR. I'D
LIKE TO FINISH ASKING MY IF YOU
HAVE A QUESTION ON THE BILL
SPECIFICALLY HAVE A QUESTION ON
THE BILL BECAUSE I'M ASKING
ABOUT WHAT IS GOING TO BE THIS
TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY
THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE, AND I'M
ASKING ABOUT NOT JUST ALLEGATION
REPORTS. BUT THEN THERE WAS A
AUDIT DONE BY ERNST AND YOUNG
THAT LOOKED AT LOOKED AT THESE
ISSUES AND, ACCORDING TO THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA, SIX PEOPLE
WHO VOTED IN 2018 WERE
INELIGIBLE PEOPLE WHO WERE
REGISTERED TO VOTE AT THE Dð M
VÆ. AND WHAT THE AUDIT FOUND IS
THAT THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA
DOESN'T DO ANYTHING TO VALIDATE
THE CITIZENSHIP STATUS OF PEOPLE
WHO ARE REGISTERED TO VOTE
THROUGH THE Dð M VÆ. IT'S A SELF
ATTESTATION PROGRAM, AND MY
CONCERN IS THAT WE'VE ALSO BUILT
IN IMMUNITY. SO ANYONE WHO SAYS
THEY'RE ELIGIBLE, BUT REALLY
ISN'T WE'VE NOW SAID THEY'RE
IMMUNE FROM PROSECUTION. SO THIS
IS NOT A QUESTION ON THE BILL.
THE QUESTION IS, WHAT IS THIS
TASK? GOING TO DO TO DEAL WITH
THIS MAJOR FLAW WHERE WE DO NOT
CONFIRM THE CITIZENSHIP
ELIGIBILITY OF VOTERS. SO THAT
SIX NUMBER THAT YOU MENTIONED IS
THAT 2018 PROBLEMS WITH THE
INITIAL ROLL OUT WHICH HAS BEEN
FIXED BUT TO ANSWER YOUR
QUESTION. THE TASK FORCE IS
SPECIFICALLY TASKED BY LAW WITH,
UH, BEING REPORTED TO FROM THE
Dð M VÆ AND THE SECRETARY OF
STATE ON ANY IRREGULARITIES IN
THE SYSTEM, AND THERE IS AN
ANNUAL REPORT THAT'S PUBLISHED
FROM THE TASK FORCE. THE 2022
REPORT IS OUT. THE 2020 THREE
ONE IS FORTHCOMING. THAT
INCLUDES A VERY DETAILED
ANALYSIS OF ANY IRREGULARITIES
IN THE PROGRAM AND WHAT WAS DONE
TO ADDRESS THOSE DURING THE
PREVIOUS YEAR. OK WHAT DID THIS
TASK FORCE RECOMMEND SHOULD BE
DONE TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES? AS
I SAID THAT ISSUE HAS BEEN
RESOLVED. THE INITIAL SOFTWARE
GLITCHES WITH THE PROGRAM WERE
RESOLVED IN 2018. SO THAT ISSUE
THERE'S NÓ NÓ ISSUE TO BE
RESOLVED THERE BY THE TASK FORCE
RESOLVED. SO HOW? HOW TO DO THIS
IS NOT THE FORUM TO BE GOING
INTO WHAT THE TASK FORCE HAS
DONE. THIS IS IT. I WANNA KNOW
IF THIS TASK FORCE IS ACTUALLY
DOING ANYTHING OR NOT. SO WHAT?
HOW DID THEY RESOLVE THE ISSUE
WITH A VOTER NOT BEING A CITIZEN
AND BEING REGISTERED TO VOTE? AS
I SAID THAT WAS PART OF INITIAL
SOFTWARE GLITCH IN 2020 18,
WHICH HAS BEEN RESOLVED AND THE
TASK FORCE WAS STARTED IN 2021,
AND SO IT WAS CREATED. AFTER
THAT PROBLEM WAS RESOLVED. I WAS
PART OF THE SETTLEMENT TEAM THAT
WAS MONITORING THE Dð M VÆ
DURING THAT PERIOD, BUT THE TASK
FORCE IS A MEANS TO CONTINUE
THAT OVERSIGHT AND TRANSPARENCY
AND THE TASKS WERE FINDINGS ARE
IN THAT ANNUAL REPORT THAT IS
AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC AND TO
THE LEGISLATURE. SO IF YOU WOULD
LIKE TO SEE ANY OF THE
IRREGULARITIES THAT HAPPENED
2022, WHICH DO NOT INCLUDE NON
CITIZENS BECOMING REGISTERED
THAT IS ON THE SECRETARY OF
STATE'S WEBSITE, AND IN MY
EXPERIENCE, HUMAN ERROR DOES
OCCUR. AND SOMETIMES SOMEBODY
DOES REGISTER WHO IS NOT A
CITIZEN, AND IT IS CORRECTED BY
CANCELING THAT VOTER RECORD. BUT
HOW? HOW DO WE? HOW DO WE
IDENTIFY THAT ERROR? SO IF THE
VOTER IS THERE'S A NUMBER OF
DIFFERENT WAYS THAT THAT ERA
GETS IDENTIFIED ACCORDING TO
THIS AUDIT, THEY THEY DON'T
CHECK. SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE
THIS TASK FORCE IS GONNA LOOK
INTO THAT ISSUE AND COME UP WITH
A WAY THAT WE CAN CONFIRM
ELIGIBILITY STATUS. SO I MY
QUESTIONS HAVE NOT BEEN
SATISFIED. SO I'LL I'LL BE
OPPOSING THIS BILL TODAY. THANK
YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION IN A
SECOND AND OH, I HEARD A SECOND.
YES SO WE HAD A MOTION BY SOME
LOW SECOND BY CERVANTES. UH, I'D
LIKE TO THANK THE AUTHOR FOR
THIS CONTINUED WORK ON THIS
ISSUE. OUR NEW MOTOR VOTER
PROGRAM HAS SUCCESS HAS BEEN
SUCCESSFUL IN REGISTERING AND
UPDATING THE VOTER REGISTRATION
OF MILLIONS OF CALIFORNIANS AND
THE TASK FORCE PLAYS A CRITICAL
ROLE IN ENSURING THAT A NEW
MOTOR VOTER PROGRAM CONTINUES TO
FUNCTION AS INTENDED. UM BUT GO
AHEAD AND CLOSE. APPRECIATE THE
CONVERSATIONS. I, UM UH BUT I
WOULD ARGUE THAT THE TASK FORCE
IS THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THE TASK
FORCE IS TO HAVE OVERSIGHT OF
THE IMPLEMENTATION OF NEW MOTOR
VOTER. UH AND WHEN PROBLEMS GET,
UH UH, IDENTIFIED TO LOOK FOR
AND CREATE SOLUTIONS AND WORK
WITH THE Dð M VÆ AND WORK WITH
THE S¼ Ó S¼ TO IMPLEMENT THOSE
AND SO FOR ANYBODY WHO HAS
CONCERNS, I WOULD THINK THAT YOU
WOULD WANT TO SUPPORT THE
EXTENSION OF THE TASK FORCE
BECAUSE THAT'S THE ENTIRE
PURPOSE OF THE TASK FORCE IS TO
HAVE THAT ACCOUNTABILITY HAVE
THAT OVERSIGHT HAVE THAT
TRANSPARENCY AND IDENTIFY
SOLUTIONS TO ANY PROBLEMS THAT
THAT MAY ARISE. UM, IN ANYTHING
THAT WE DO WHEN IT COMES TO THE
20 PLUS MILLION VOTERS. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU EXCELLENT
CLOTHES, AND I AM RECOMMENDING
SUPPORT FOR THIS BILL. CALLED
THE ROLE IAB 2127 BY BERMAN. THE
MOTION PASS AND BE REREFER TO
THE COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS.
PELLERIN PELLERIN. I LACKEY NOT
LACKEY, NOT VOTING BENNETT.
BERMAN BERMAN. I CERVANTES
CERVANTES. I ACEI NÓ ASSI NÓ. LO
LO, I FONTA IFI. THE BILL IS OUT
5 TO 1. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE
NOW MOVE TO THE LAST BILL, WHICH
IS MY BILL. OK?
OK? AND YOU MAY PROCEED. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. CHAIR MEMBERS
UNDER EXISTING LAW SPECIFIC
ELECTION MATERIALS MUST BE
RETAINED BY COUNTY ELECTIONS
OFFICIALS. RECORDS REGARDING
FEDERAL ELECTIONS MUST BE
RETAINED FOR 22 MONTHS AND ALL
OTHER ELECTION RECORDS MUST BE
RETAINED FOR SIX MONTHS. THE
PACKAGES CONTAINING THESE
MATERIALS MUST REMAIN UNOPENED
FOR THE DURATION OF THE
RETENTION PERIOD, AFTER WHICH
THESE MATERIALS ARE DESTROYED.
AND THE PURSUIT OF TRANSPARENT
ELECTIONS, THE PRESERVATION OF
THE PAPER AND ELECTRONIC RECORD
OF THE ELECTION IS THAT THE
UTMOST IMPORTANCE, HOWEVER,
THERE HAVE BEEN CASES WHERE THE
SECRETARY OF STATE AND A COURT
HAVE COME TO DIFFERING
CONCLUSIONS REGARDING WHICH
DOCUMENTS MAY BE SHARED WITHOUT
COMPROMISING THE SECURITY OF AN
ELECTION. IN ORDER TO PROVIDE
MORE CLARITY REGARDING RETENTION
AND DOCUMENT ACCESS. A B 2249
CLARIFIES WHICH MATERIALS MUST
BE RETAINED BY THE ELECTIONS
OFFICIALS A B 2249 ADDS CAST
VOTE RECORDS, CONDITIONAL VOTER
REGISTRATION, VOTER
IDENTIFICATION ENVELOPES
COMPLETED FORMS ISSUED TO THE
PRECINCT BOARD AND ANY MACHINE
REPORTS USED TO ACCOUNT FOR THE
BALLOTS DELIVERED TO THE VOTING
LOCATION COMPLETED FORMS ISSUED
TO THE COUNTING BOARD AND ANY
MACHINE REPORTS USED FOR THE 1.
MANUAL TALLY AND TWO TALLY
SHEETS IF THE PRECINCTS MANUALLY
TABULATE BALLOTS CAST VOTE
RECORDS ARE AUDITABLE DOCUMENTS
THAT CORRESPOND TO THE ELECTIONS
MADE ON THE VOTER'S BALLOT.
VOTER IDENTIFICATION ENVELOPES
CONTAIN THE VOTER SIGNATURE
RESIDENTIAL ADDRESS DATA
SIGNATURE AND A NOTICE OF VOTING
MORE THAN ONCE CONSTITUTES A
CRIME, AMONG OTHER NOTICES. A B
2249 CLARIFIES THAT ALL VOTERS
MAY OBSERVE THE PROCESSING OF
THESE ELECTION MATERIALS AT ALL
TIMES DURING THE OFFICIAL CANVAS
, UH, EXCEPT THAT THE ITEMS THAT
CONTAINS SIGNATURES OF VOTERS
MAY NOT BE COPIED OR DISTRIBUTED
IN ORDER TO PRESERVE THE SECRECY
OF THE BALLOT. A B 2249 IS
SPONSORED BY THE CALIFORNIA
ASSOCIATION OF CLERKS AND
ELECTION OFFICIALS, AND WITH ME
TODAY TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT IS
TRISHA WEBER, REPRESENTING èC A
èC E Ó. THANK YOU SECOND.
OKAY, MA'AM, YOU MAY PROCEED.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HØI AGAIN.
MY NAME IS TRISHA WEBER. I AM
ONE OF THE CO CHAIRS FOR THE, UH
, CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION CLERK.
ELECTION OFFICIALS ELECTION
LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE. UM I AM
HE. WE ARE PROUD TO SPONSOR THIS
BILL THAT ASSEMBLY MEMBER
POLLING IN JUST SPOKE ABOUT IT
WOULD CLARIFY THE TYPES OF
BALLOTS AND THE TYPES OF
MATERIALS THAT ARE TO BE SEALED,
AND IT ALSO CLARIFIES HOW LONG
THEY ARE TO BE SEALED. AND IT
ACTUALLY CHANGES THE WORD MAY TO
SHALL THAT WE, UH TO ACTUALLY
DESTROY MATERIALS WHEN THE
RETENTION PERIOD HAS, UM,
REACHED THE END, UM IT WAS KIND
OF AMBIGUITY. THAT WAS THERE
BECAUSE SOME OF IT SAID YOU
SHALL SOME OF IT SAID YOU MAY
AND NOW ALL MATERIALS WILL BE
DESTROYED ON THEIR, UH,
RESPECTIVE DATES AND WE STRONGLY
URGE I VOTE ON THIS BILL. OK
THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE ANYBODY
ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS
SUPPORT FOR THIS BILL? AND HOW
ABOUT OPPOSITION? DO YOU HAVE
ANY OPPOSITION IN THE ROOM?
SAYING NÓ OR BRING IT BACK. TO
THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS. DO WE
HAVE ANY COMMENTS? QUESTIONS? I
JUST HAVE A QUICK COMMENT A
CONCERN. UH, WHILE I UNDERSTAND
THE LEGITIMATE, UH, INTENTION OF
THIS BILL, I WORRY THAT IT MAY
LEAD TO TRANSPARENCY ISSUES. UH
IF THEY CANNOT BE SUBJECT TO
PUBLIC RECORDS ACT REQUESTS IS
THERE A WAY YOU CAN HELP ME OUT?
SATISFY THAT CONCERN ABOUT PR A
REQUEST BEING DENIED NOW? WHAT
UM, WHAT WE WERE SEEING ACROSS
THE STATE IS THAT PEOPLE WERE
PUTTING IN PUBLIC RECORDS
REQUEST ACTS FOR ITEMS THAT
COULD NOT BE DISTRIBUTED UNDER
PR RULES. UM AND THEN, UM, SUCH
AS ENVELOPES WITH THE SIGNATURES
AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AND ALSO
ONCE WE COMPLETE AN ELECTION,
AND IT'S CERTIFIED, IT IS SEALED
. UM AND WE CAN ONLY BREAK THE
SEALS. IF WE SEE A COURT ORDER
AND USUALLY THAT COURT ORDER
WOULD COME UNDER A CONTEST OR
LITIGATION ABOUT THE ELECTION.
UM AND NOT FOR APR A REQUEST
ONCE IT'S OVER, AND IT'S SEALED
IT FOR THE ELECTION OFFICIALS.
IT'S OVER AND SEALED UNLESS THE
COURT ORDERS US TO DO SO. SO
THAT'S WHY THERE WAS SOME
AMBIGUITY. UM OF WHAT COULD BE.
WHAT WOULD BE BROKEN. ALSO IS
THAT THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S
OFFICE WAS SAYING YEAH, ONCE
IT'S SEALED, IT'S SEALED AND
LESS OF THE COURT ORDER, AND
SOME COURTS WERE SAYING, WELL,
MAYBE THAT'S NOT TRUE. SO THIS
IS THIS IS MAKING THE WORDS THE
INTENT OF WHAT THE PRESERVATION
AND STUFF WAS THAT PR REQUESTS
OF SEALED DOCUMENTS FOR THE
ELECTION ONCE IT'S CERTIFIED AND
SEALED. CAN'T BE BROKEN. IT
CAN'T BREAK THE SEAL AND GET
INTO AND ALL THOSE DOCUMENTS ARE
OPEN TO OBSERVATION DURING THE
COURSE OF THE CANVAS. OK, DO YOU
HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OK HOW
ABOUT THE AMENDMENTS THAT WERE
MENTIONED IN THE ANALYSIS ARE
ACCEPTING THOSE AMENDMENTS?
ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. AND THE
MOTION AND SECOND IS THAT AS
AMENDED JUST CLARIFYING. OK?
THANK YOU. I THINK WE'RE READY
TO CALL FOR THE QUESTION. I'LL
LET YOU CLOSE FIRST. I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR VOTE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ON A B
2249 PIN. THE MOTION IS DUE PASS
AS AMENDED AND BE ERRED TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS PIN.
I PIN I LACKEY LACKEY. I
BENNETT. BERMAN BERMAN. I
CERVANTES CERVANTES. I AI AI IS
NOT VOTING LOW LOW IBIB I.
MEASURE PASSES ITS OUT 60.
NÓ. BECAUSE YEAH, THERE'S
THEY'RE EXPANDING THE SHE SHE?
SHE DID NOT ANSWER THE QUESTION.
THEY ARE. THEY DON'T WANNA BE
SUBJECT TO.
WE'RE GOING TO OPEN THE ROLE FOR
ABSENT MEMBERS TO ADD ON TO THE
BILLS. EXCUSE ME. WE'RE NOT DONE
YET. WE'RE GONNA HAVE AN
OPPORTUNITY FOR THE ABSENT
MEMBERS TO ADD ON TO THE ROLE GO
AHEAD. 2050 PELLERIN. UM MR LOW,
MR LOWE IS I. AND THE OTHER BILL
IS WAITING FOR. WE'RE WAITING
FOR MR BENNETT. OK?
RIGHT, RIGHT. AWESOME. YEAH. MR
BENNETT. WE'D LIKE YOU TO ADD ON
TO THREE BILLS. THE FIRST ONE IS
, UM, A B 2041 BY MS BONTA. THE
MOTION IS OK. I THE GROUP. THE
SECOND ONE IS A B 2127 BERMAN. I
AND THE LAST ONE IS A B 2249
PELLERIN. AYE OH, AND THAT'S
CONS. OH SORRY, AND ON THE
CONSENT CALENDAR. AYE, THANK
YOU. OK, NOW THAT ALL THE VOTES
ARE IN, AND DID YOU ANNOUNCE IT
WHETHER THEY PASSED OR NOT
PASSED? TABLE. I THINK THEY'VE
ALL PASSED. GET THIS MEETING NOW
ADJOURNED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.