ASSEMBLY COMMITTEE ON REVENUE
AND TAXATION. AS ALWAYS, PLEASE
MAKE SURE TO SUBMIT POSITION
LETTERS AT LEAST ONE WEEK PRIOR
TO THE COMMITTEE HEARING IN
ORDER FOR THEM TO BE REFLECTED
IN THE BILL ANALYSIS.
ADDITIONALLY PURSUANT TO OUR
COMMITTEE RULE BEALL WITH A
FISCAL IMPACT OF PLUS OR
-$150,000 WILL BE REFERRED TO
OUR EXPENSE FILE, WHICH WILL BE
TAKING UP AT A LATER HEARING. WE
DON'T HAVE A HERE. WE DON'T HAVE
A QUORUM RIGHT NOW. SO WE WILL
BE STARTING AT THE A
SUBCOMMITTEE. SO, WE WILL START
WITH FILE ITEM NUMBER ONE, AB
1973 BY ASSEMBLY MEMBER LACKEY.
ASSEMBLY MEMBER, PLEASE BEGIN
WHEN YOU ARE READY. THANK YOU.
WELL. THANK YOU. CHAIR AND
MEMBER, FOR ALLOWING ME TO
PRESENT THIS BILL. AB 1973 WAS A
GOOD YEAR OR TWO. I'D LIKE TO
BEGIN BY THANKING THE COMMITTEE
FOR THEIR HARD WORK ON THIS
MEASURE. OF COURSE. AND WE WILL
BE AMENDING THE BILL TO ON
SUSPENSE WITH THE AMENDMENTS AS
OUTLINED IN THE ANALYSIS. THE
BOBCAT FIRE OF 2020 TORE THROUGH
THE ANGELES NATIONAL FOREST,
DESTROYING OVER 115,997 ACRES OF
PRECIOUS LAND AND BURNING THE
HOMES AND LIVELIHOODS OF MANY.
THE TOLL OF THIS TRAGEDY IS
IMMEASURABLE, AND THE SCARS IT
HAS LEFT UPON OUR COMMUNITY ARE
DEEP AND VERY ENDURING. HOWEVER
NOW THE FOLLOWING. FOLLOWING THE
SETTLEMENT, OUR CONSTITUENTS
MUST FACE A TAX ON THE PAYMENTS
THAT ARE INTENDED TO ALLEVIATE
THEIR LOSSES. TO ME, IT IS A
CRUEL IRONY THAT THOSE WHO HAVE
ALREADY ENDURED SO MUCH MUST NOW
SHOULDER THE BURDEN OF TAXATION
ON THEIR JOURNEY TOWARDS
REBUILDING THEIR LIVES. AB 1973
WILL ENSURE THAT THOSE WELL
DESERVED SETTLEMENT PAYMENTS ARE
RECEIVED IN THEIR FULL AMOUNTS,
AND WOULD BE EXEMPT FROM
TAXATION. THIS LEGISLATION IS
NOT NEW. IT DRAWS UPON THE
PRECEDENTS SET BY SB 1246, AB
1249, WHICH PROVIDED SIMILAR
EXEMPTIONS FOR VICTIMS OF PAST
WILDFIRES SUCH AS THE CAMPFIRE
THOMAS FIRE AND WOOLSEY FIRE. BY
PASSING THIS BILL, WE NOT ONLY
PROVIDE CRUCIAL FINANCIAL
ASSISTANCE TO THOSE WHO HAVE
LOST EVERYTHING IN THE BOBCAT
FIRE, BUT ALSO REAFFIRM OUR
COMMITMENT TO STANDING WITH
COMMUNITIES IN THEIR TIME OF
NEED. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, ASSEMBLYMAN
LACKEY. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A
QUORUM. SO, MADAM SECRETARY,
MISS HIGHLAND. SO PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL. OH, THERE HE IS. IRWIN
TO. AYE. OH, I'M HERE TO BAINES.
GIBSON. HERE. GIBSON. GRACE
THÀNH. GRAYSON. JIM. PATTERSON.
JIM PATTERSON HERE. THANK YOU SO
MUCH. THE QUORUM HAS BEEN
ESTABLISHED. SO, GO BACK TO
ASSEMBLYMAN LACKEY. SO. OKAY.
IT'S OUR DUTY AS LAWMAKERS TO
ALLEVIATE THE BURDENS PLACED
UPON OUR FELLOW CITIZENS AS THEY
STRIVE TO REBUILD THEIR
COMMUNITY. AND FOR THAT, I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR AYE
VOTE WHEN IT IS APPROPRIATE
THAT. SO DO YOU HAVE ANY, ANY
WITNESS? NO. OKAY SO, ARE THERE
ANY, ANY WITNESSES IN THE ROOM,
WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN
SUPPORT? I MOVE THE BILL. SORRY,
SUSPENSE, BUT I APPRECIATE THAT.
ARE THERE ANY, ANY WITNESSES IN
THE ROOM WHO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION
? OKAY, SO WE HAVE NONE. ANY
QUESTION OR COMMENT FROM
COMMITTEE MEMBER? SO A SENTIMENT
. LUCKY. WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE
? YEAH. JUST WHEN IT COMES THE
APPROPRIATE TIME, I WOULD HOPE
THAT IT WOULD GET FAVORABLE
CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU SO
MUCH, AS FOR TOO MANY OF US KNOW
THE IMPACT OF THIS FIRE ON OUR
COMMUNITIES CAN BE REALLY,
REALLY, REALLY CONCERNED. AND I
REALLY APPRECIATE THAT, YOU
INTRODUCED A BILL TO PROVIDE,
SOME OF THE SETTLEMENT PAYMENT
REALLY HELP THE COMMUNITY. SO I
THINK THAT REALLY, HELPFUL AND
MEAN A LOT TO EVERYONE WHO LIVE
IN STATE CALIFORNIA. THANK YOU
SO MUCH. AND WITHOUT OBJECTION,
THIS BILL WILL BE REFERRED TO
OUR SUSPEND FILE. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. WHAT WOULD BE THE
NEXT BILL? SO OKAY. ALL RIGHT,
SO WE HAVE TO WAIT. SO MAY I
ASK, SERGEANT, TO CALL THE NEXT
MEMBER, PLEASE
?
THIS IS THE SUSPENSE. SO NEW
.
YOU ARE. NEXT. OKAY. COME UP
NOW, PLEASE. OH, WELL. YEAH. ALL
RIGHT. I LIKE THIS. SO OUR NEXT,
BILL IS FILE ITEM NUMBER TWO, AB
29 777 BY ASSEMBLYMAN JACKSON.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
AND MEMBERS, BEFORE YOU IS AB
2977, WHICH SEEKS TO PROVIDE
ADDITIONAL FINANCIAL SUPPORT TO
OUR MOST VULNERABLE FAMILIES BY
EXPANDING THE YOUNG CHILD TAX
CREDIT DUE TO THE RECENT SURGE
IN CHILDHOOD POVERTY. I INTEND
TO MAKE, SOME AMENDMENTS, WHICH
IS OUTLINED, IN THE ANALYSIS BY
ADDING A SUNSET PROVISION AND
DATA REPORTING. I ALSO WILL BE
TAKING OUT THE CAL EITC
PROVISION, AND I INTEND ON
ADDING ADDITIONAL PROVISIONS
THAT HAVE BEEN REQUESTED FROM
THE FRANCHISE TAX BOARD. AB 2009
777 AIMS TO EXPAND CALIFORNIA
YOUNG CHILD TAX CREDIT TO COVER
CHILDREN UNDER 18 AND ADJUST THE
CREDIT INCOME THRESHOLD TO
50,000, IN HOUSEHOLD INCOME.
BECAUSE THIS IS A YEAR TO
ESTABLISH PRIORITIES, AS I AM
PROPOSING TO, ADJUST, OTHER TAX
CREDITS WERE ALREADY GIVEN OUT
TO ENSURE THAT WE PRIORITIZE OUR
CHILDREN. THIS MEANS ADJUSTING
OR ELIMINATING CAPITAL GAINS.
STEP UP BASIS ON INHERITED
ASSETS, AND REMOVING THE
EXCEPTION TO THE MINIMUM
FRANCHISE TAX FOR NEW
CORPORATIONS. ACCORDING TO THE
LAO, REVENUES FROM THESE CHANGES
ARE EXPECTED TO BE IN THE
BILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND WOULD BE
DEPOSITED INTO THE CHILD TAX
CREDIT EXPANSION FUND. TO
FINANCE THIS EXPANSION, I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN AYE VOTE
. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YOU HAVE
ANY WITNESSES? NO. OKAY ARE
THERE ANY WITNESSES IN THE ROOM
WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN
SUPPORT? HELLO, MY NAME IS SAM
WILKINSON, AND I'M REPRESENTING
THE CAL EITC COALITION. I'M HERE
TO PROVIDE A STATEMENT OF
CONCERN, WE SINCERELY APPRECIATE
THE INTENT TO EXPAND THE YOUNG
CHILD TAX CREDIT AND TO PURSUE
EQUITABLE, PROGRESSIVE REVENUE
STREAMS IN AB 2977, WE JUST
CAN'T ENDORSE ANY PROPOSAL THAT
WOULD LOWER THE CAL EITC MAXIMUM
INCOME THRESHOLD. BUT AS CHAIR
JACKSON JUST SHARED, THERE'S AN
AMENDMENT WAITING, AND WE'RE
VERY ENCOURAGED BY THE AMENDMENT
AS WELL AS OUR MEETINGS WITH
STAFF, AND PLAN TO MOVE TO A
SUPPORT POSITION ONCE THE EITC
MAXIMUM INCOME THRESHOLD
PROPOSAL IS REMOVED FROM THE
LEGISLATION. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU SO MUCH. ARE THERE ANY, ANY
WITNESSES IN THE ROOM WHO WOULD
LIKE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION? ANY
RATIONAL COMMENT, FROM THE
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. ALL RIGHT, I
SEE NONE. SO THIS BEALL. OH,
DOCTOR JACKSON, ANY. HÌ. WOULD
YOU LIKE TO CLOSE? SURE FOR, WE
KNOW THE EXPANSION OF THE CHILD
TAX CREDIT UNDER THE AMERICAN
RESCUE PLAN SIGNIFICANTLY
REDUCED CHILDHOOD POVERTY WITH
90% OF LOW INCOME FAMILIES
UTILIZING ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR
ESSENTIALS LIKE FOOD, HOUSING
AND EDUCATION. CALIFORNIA STILL
FACES A SIGNIFICANT POVERTY
ISSUE WITH CHILDHOOD POVERTY
RISING FROM. 13.8% TO 17.6% POST
THE EXPIRATION OF THE FEDERAL
CHILD TAX CREDIT, WHICH MAKES
THIS EVEN MORE URGENT. TO MAKE
SURE THAT WE MITIGATE THE IMPACT
THAT THIS HAS DONE TO OUR
CHILDREN. THÀNH MOST
IMPORTANTLY, NOT ONLY AS
LEGISLATORS BUT ALSO AS ADULTS
IN THIS STATE AND IN THE WORLD.
IT IS EVERY GENERATION, SACRED
RESPONSIBILITY TO PROVIDE THE
NEXT GENERATION WITH EVERYTHING
THAT THEY CAN TO THRIVE AND TO
LEAVE THEM WITH BETTER
OPPORTUNITIES THAN WHAT WE HAVE
HAD. UNFORTUNATELY WE WILL BE
THE FIRST GENERATION TO FAIL IN
THAT RESPONSIBILITY. IF WE DON'T
ACT NOW AND AGGRESSIVELY, WE
CANNOT ALLOW CHILD POVERTY TO
STAND IN CALIFORNIA. I ASK THAT
THIS COMMITTEE ALLOW ME TO
CONTINUE WITH THIS VERY
IMPORTANT WORK, ALONG WITH THIS
WORK, THIS BILL WILL BE, BUDGET
NEUTRAL AS WE CONTINUE TO CRUNCH
THE NUMBERS WITH LAO AB 2977
REPRESENTS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR
CALIFORNIA TO ADDRESS CHILDHOOD
POVERTY EFFECTIVELY, BY
LEVERAGING THESE TAX ADJUSTMENTS
TO FUND THE STABILITY AND
ECONOMIC GROWTH FOR OUR FUTURE
GENERATIONS. I RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR AN AYE VOTE. THANK YOU SO
MUCH, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU SO
MUCH FOR THAT. AND THIS BILL
WILL BE REFERRED TO THE EXPAND
FILE. BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE
YOUR PRESENTATION. THANK YOU
.
ARE YOU READY? THANK YOU SO MUCH
. SO, THE NEXT, THE NEXT IS FILE
ITEM NUMBER FIVE, AB 2400 BY
ASSEMBLY MEMBER RIVAS. THANK YOU
. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. AND
MEMBERS, I WANT TO BEGIN BY
THANKING DAVID, AND FROM THE
COMMITTEE FOR HIS THOROUGH
EVALUATION OF THIS MEASURE AND
FOR WORKING CLOSELY WITH MY
STAFF, AB 2400 WOULD EXTEND THE
SUNSET FOR THE SALES AND TAX
EXCLUSION PROGRAM, OR CTE, OF
THE CALIFORNIA ALTERNATIVE
ENERGY AND ADVANCED
TRANSPORTATION FINANCING
AUTHORITY UNTIL JANUARY 1ST OF
2031. THE PURPOSE OF THE CTE
PROGRAM IS TO PROMOTE THE
CREATION OF CALIFORNIA BASED
MANUFACTURING JOBS THAT WOULD
STIMULATE THE STATE ECONOMY AND
INCENTIVIZE THE MANUFACTURING OF
GREEN TECHNOLOGIES THAT WILL
HELP REDUCE GREENHOUSE GASES,
AIR AND WATER POLLUTION, AND
ENERGY CONSUMPTION. SINCE THE
PROGRAM'S INCEPTION, OVER 335
PROJECTS LOCATED THROUGHOUT THE
STATE HAVE BEEN AWARDED TAX
INCENTIVES TO HELP SPUR
INVESTMENT IN OVER 14.8 BILLION
IN MANUFACTURING EQUIPMENT.
WITHOUT STATE INTERVENTION, THE
CTE PROGRAM IS SET TO SUNSET ON
JANUARY 1ST, 2026. THIS WOULD
JEOPARDIZE THE CREATION OF
MANUFACTURING JOBS AND THE
PRODUCTION OF VITAL GREEN
TECHNOLOGIES LIKE SOLAR PANELS,
BIOFUELS AND WIND TURBINES, ALL
OF WHICH ARE VITAL TOWARDS
REDUCING THE STATE'S CARBON
EMISSIONS, ALLOWING THE PROGRAM
TO EXPIRE WOULD LEAVE THE STATE
WITH ONE LESS RESOURCE TO ASSIST
IN ITS BOLD CLIMATE PLAN,
POTENTIALLY CAUSING CALIFORNIA
TO FALL BEHIND IN MEETING ITS
AMBITIOUS CLIMATE GOALS. TODAY,
I HAVE WITH ME TO PROVIDE
TESTIMONY, LAWRENCE GORDON,
POLICY DIRECTOR FOR THE
CALIFORNIA MANUFACTURERS AND
TECHNOLOGY ASSOCIATION AND I
ALSO HAVE WITH ME TO PROVIDE
ANSWERS TO ANY TECHNICAL
QUESTIONS. KI¾M MORTON, DEPUTY
TREASURER WITH THE CALIFORNIA
STATE TREASURER'S OFFICE, AND
JENNIFER GIL, SENIOR MANAGER AT
THE CALIFORNIA ALTERNATIVE
ENERGY AND ADVANCED
TRANSPORTATION FINANCING
AUTHORITY. I THINK I GOT IT
RIGHT. OKAY, GOOD AFTERNOON,
HONORABLE COMMITTEE MEMBERS,
LAWRENCE GORDON, POLICY DIRECTOR
FOR CALIFORNIA MANUFACTURERS
TECHNOLOGY ASSOCIATION. WE'RE
PROUD TO SUPPORT AB 2400, WHICH
EXTENDS A KEY TOOL FOR
CALIFORNIA MANUFACTURERS WHO ARE
GLOBAL LEADERS IN ADVANCING THE
STATE AND ITS EMISSION AND
RENEWABLE ENERGY GOALS,
CALIFORNIA MANUFACTURING,
PARTICULARLY OUR ADVANCED AND
GREEN MANUFACTURERS, ARE REALLY
ALWAYS IN THE PROCESS OF BEING
COURTED BY OTHER STATES FOR
VARIOUS OPPORTUNITIES. CTFA IS A
TOOL FOR INVESTMENT AND REALLY
ENCOURAGING GROWTH IN ONE OF THE
MOST COMPETITIVE INDUSTRIES IN
THE WORLD, AB 2400 REALLY
ILLUSTRATES A GREATER SENSE OF
COMMITMENT FROM THE STATE TO
PROMOTE CALIFORNIA JOBS,
CALIFORNIA MANUFACTURING, AND
THE CREATION OF TECHNOLOGY THAT
WILL HELP REDUCE OUR GREENHOUSE
GAS EMISSIONS, REDUCE AIR AND
WATER POLLUTION, ENERGY
CONSUMPTION, AS WELL AS REALLY
SUPPORTING THE LITHIUM
DEVELOPMENT AND SEMICONDUCTOR
MANUFACTURING, CALIFORNIA TRULY
WANTS TO DEMONSTRATE LEADERSHIP
AND CONTINUE FURTHER TO GROW THE
INNOVATIVE AND GREEN ECONOMY OF
THE STATE. AB 2400 AND THE K¾T
PROGRAM IS A VITAL TOOL TO DO
SO. THANK YOU SO THANK YOU SO
MUCH, AND, ARE THERE ANY
WITNESSES IN THE ROOM WHO, WOULD
LIKE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT? OH,
I'M SORRY, YOU HAVE ANOTHER
WITNESS. YEAH. OKAY I'M SORRY,
I'M SORRY. NO. NO PROBLEM SIR,
AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR.
CHAIR. COMMITTEE MEMBERS, CANYON
MORTON, DEPUTY TREASURER FOR
CALIFORNIA STATE TREASURER.
FIONA MA, SPONSOR OF AB 2400. IN
HER CAPACITY AS CHAIR OF CAVE TO
THE CALIFORNIA ALTERNATIVE
ENERGY AND ADVANCED
TRANSPORTATION FINANCING
AUTHORITY, AS NOTED, THE PROGRAM
SERVES TWO PURPOSES. FIRST, THE
S¼ PROGRAM INCENTIVIZES THE
PRODUCTION AND USE OF
TECHNOLOGIES TO HELP GREENHOUSE
GAS EMISSIONS, AIR AND WATER
POLLUTION, AND ENERGY
CONSUMPTION. ADDITIONALLY, THE
PROGRAM CREATES THE CREATION OF
CALIFORNIA BASED MANUFACTURING
JOBS TO HELP STIMULATE THE
ECONOMY. AMONG OTHER BENEFITS,
THIS PROGRAM HAS CREATED AN
ESTIMATED NET BENEFIT OF 1.7
BILLION TO COMMUNITIES AND
REGIONAL ECONOMIES. IN ADDITION,
OVER A 128,000 JOBS BEEN CREATED
OR RETAINED WITH THE SUPPORT OF
THE CFDA PROGRAM, THE SALES AND
USE TAX EXCLUSION PROGRAM
EMPLOYS AN EVALUATION PROCESS
THAT CONSIDERS PROJECTS LOCATION
IN HIGH UNEMPLOYMENT AREAS,
WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT
PARTNERSHIPS, AND REGIONAL
INDUSTRY CLUSTERS. EVEN SO,
PROGRAM PARTICIPATION IN
OVERSUBSCRIPTION HAS INCREASED
YEAR OVER YEAR. TO ADDRESS THIS
HIGH DEMAND, CFDA HAS ENACTED
REGULATORY CHANGES TO ENHANCE
THE COMPETITIVE CRITERIA,
PROJECT CAPS AND ALLOTMENTS.
THESE CHANGES HAVE ALLOWED THE
PROGRAM TO CONTINUE TO
PRIORITIZE THE STATE'S
ENVIRONMENTAL GOALS AND SUPPORT
AS MANY BUSINESSES AS POSSIBLE.
AS NOTED, WITHOUT THE PASSAGE OF
AB 2400, THE PROGRAM WOULD
SUNSET ON JANUARY 1ST, 2026, AND
IT WOULD JEOPARDIZE NOT ONLY THE
RETENTION AND CREATION OF
THOUSANDS OF JOBS, BUT ALSO THE
FUTURE ECONOMIC GROWTH OF
REGIONAL ECONOMIES IN CALIFORNIA
, UNDER AB 2400, THE PROGRAM'S
SUNSET DATE WOULD EXTEND TO
JANUARY 1ST, 2031, WHICH WOULD
ALLOW THE STATE AND THE STATE
TREASURER'S OFFICE TO CONTINUE
TO EXPERIENCE THE NET BENEFITS
ACHIEVED BY INCENTIVIZING
ELIGIBLE MANUFACTURERS, AS THIS
IS AN IMPORTANT, IMPORTANT
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOOL FOR
THE STATE, AND IT'S PROVEN TO
EFFECTIVELY MARRY THE STATE'S
ECONOMIC AND ENVIRONMENTAL
GOALS. AND THE STATE TREASURER
IS PROUD TO SUPPORT AND BE A
SPONSOR FOR AVERY 2400. AND
THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
THAT. NOW, ARE THERE ANY
WITNESSES IN THE ROOM WHO WOULD
LIKE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT? GOOD
AFTERNOON, MATT KLOFFENSTEIN AT
CALIFORNIA ADVISORS ON BEHALF OF
THE BIOENERGY ASSOCIATION OF
CALIFORNIA ENERGY SOURCE
MINERALS NH█P MATERIALS AND
SEARLES VALLEY MINERALS, ALL IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. GOOD
AFTERNOON. SKYLER WONACOTT. ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
BUSINESS PROPERTIES ASSOCIATION
IN SUPPORT AND NAIOP,
CALIFORNIA, IN SUPPORT. GOOD
AFTERNOON, CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF
BED FRANCO, ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA ELECTRIC
TRANSPORTATION COALITION AND THE
CALIFORNIA BIOMASS ENERGY
ALLIANCE, AND SUPPORT. THANK
YOU. PRESTON YOUNG FROM THE
CALIFORNIA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE
HERE TODAY IN SUPPORT. HELLO,
KELLY MORRIS WITH EDELSTEIN,
GILBERT ROBESON AND SMITH ON
BEHALF OF THE LOS ANGELES COUNTY
SANITATION DISTRICTS IN SUPPORT.
ARE THERE ANY WITNESSES IN THE
ROOM WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN
OPPOSITION? I SEE NONE. ANY
QUESTION OR COMMENT FROM
COMMITTEE MEMBERS? I SEE NONE,
SO, ASSEMBLY MEMBER, WOULD YOU
LIKE TO CLOSE. THANK YOU. AND I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN AYE VOTE
. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WHEN IT'S
APPROPRIATE. YEAH. PLEASE AND,
THIS BILL WILL BE REFER TO THE
EXPAND FILE, BUT THANK YOU SO
MUCH. THANK YOU, THANK YOU,
THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT. SO NOW WE GO BACK TO
FILE ITEM NUMBER THREE AB 3051
BY ASSEMBLY MEMBER MURATSUCHI.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
VICE CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE. I'D LIKE TO THANK THE
COMMITTEE STAFF, FIRST OF ALL,
FOR, YOUR WORK ON THIS BILL. I
WILL BE ACCEPTING THE COMMITTEE
AMENDMENTS TO LIMIT THE SPENDING
OF THE, VOLUNTARY TAX
CONTRIBUTIONS FOR ADMINISTRATION
TO 5% OF THE BILL. SECOND, AB
3051 WILL CREATE THE CALIFORNIA
K-12 CLIMATE CHANGE EDUCATION
VOLUNTARY TAX CONTRIBUTION FUND
ON THE PERSONAL INCOME TAX
RETURN FORM. I'M SURE, LIKE MANY
OF YOU, I JUST, FILLED OUT MY
TAXES AND, AND, YOU KNOW, SAW
THE, THE LIST OF WONDERFUL
CAUSES. AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE
SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE
FUNDING, THAT WE PROVIDE AN
OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR CALIFORNIA
TAXPAYERS TO SUPPORT CLIMATE
CHANGE EDUCATION IN OUR
CALIFORNIA SCHOOLS, HERE WITH ME
TODAY TO TALK MORE ABOUT THIS
PROPOSAL IS, JILLIAN RODRIGUEZ
AND BAKI REPRESENTING 10TH
STRANDS. AND BILL ANDREWS WITH
THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL
EDUCATION FOUNDATION. GOOD
AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIR, AND
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. MY
NAME IS BILL ANDREWS, AND I'M
THE FOUNDER AND EX-OFFICIO
ADVISOR OF SIF, WHICH IS THE
CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL
EDUCATION FOUNDATION. SIF IS A
REGISTERED 500 AND 1C3 NONPROFIT
AND IS CO-SPONSORING AB 3051
WITH TEN STRANDS ON BEHALF OF
SIF, I STRONGLY URGE YOUR
SUPPORT OF AB 3051, AUTHORED BY
ASSEMBLY MEMBER MURATSUCHI, TO
CREATE A CALIFORNIA K-12 CLIMATE
CHANGE EDUCATION VOLUNTARY TAX
CONTRIBUTION FUND, WHICH WOULD
BE USED TO PROVIDE GRANT AWARDS
TO SUPPORT K-12 LITERACY. MY
EXPERIENCE IN EDUCATION SPANS
NEARLY 50 YEARS, HAVING SERVED
11 YEARS IN THE CLASSROOM, 19
YEARS AT THE CALIFORNIA
DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION, AND 21
YEARS WITH SIF, WHICH CURRENTLY
CONDUCTS ANNUAL TEACHER
INSTITUTES AND BEST PRACTICES OF
ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATION AND
PRESENTS ANNUAL CASH AWARDS FOR
EXCELLENCE IN THE FIELD. SUPPORT
FOR CLIMATE CHANGE EDUCATION HAS
NEVER BEEN NEEDED. MORE THAN
NOW. PARENTS KNOW THEIR CHILDREN
ARE BEING BARRAGED WITH NEWS
ABOUT SEA LEVEL RISE, FLOODING,
FIRESTORMS, HEAT WAVES AND
DROUGHT ALL OF WHICH IS ANXIETY
PRODUCING FOR OVER A THIRD OF
OUR YOUNG PEOPLE. THAT'S
ACCORDING TO EDWEEK THAT
PUBLISHED LAST YEAR. MOREOVER
NPR FOUND THAT 80% OF PARENTS IN
THE US SUPPORT THE TEACHING OF
CLIMATE CHANGE. YET 65% OF
TEACHERS REPORT THEY DON'T SEE
HOW IT'S RELATED TO THEIR
SUBJECTS THEY TEACH, AND 34
ADMIT 34% ADMIT THEY LACK THE
RESOURCES AND KNOWLEDGE. SUPPORT
FOR ENVIRONMENTAL LITERACY HAS
CHRONICALLY BEEN UNDERFUNDED FOR
DECADES. IN CALIFORNIA, THIS
CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, ONLY ONE
$827,000 WAS ALLOCATED FROM THE
CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL LICENSE
PLATE FUND TO BE DIVIDED BETWEEN
CDE AND THE CALIFORNIA COASTAL
COMMISSION, AND THAT IS ABOUT
$0.15 PER STUDENT THIS YEAR.
IT'S CLEARLY OUR STUDENTS AND
TEACHERS DESPERATELY NEED MORE
FUNDING TO SUPPORT ENVIRONMENTAL
AND CLIMATE LITERACY. AND AB
3051 BRIDGES. THAT FUNDING GAP
PROVIDES VITALLY NEEDED SUPPORT
TO ENHANCE K-12 CLIMATE
LITERACY. CFA'S THANKFUL FOR THE
LEADERSHIP OF ASSEMBLY MEMBER
MURATSUCHI, AND WE'RE GRATEFUL
TO SHARE THE CO-SPONSORSHIP OF
THIS BILL WITH CALIFORNIA'S
PREMIER ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATION
ORGANIZATION. TEN STRANDS.
THANKS FOR YOUR TIME TODAY AND
HERE TO SPEAK FOR TEN STRANDS IS
JILLIAN RODRIGUEZ MBARKI. GOOD
AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS JILLIAN
RODRIGUEZ MBARKI. I'M THE CHIEF
ADVANCEMENT OFFICER AT TEN
STRANDS, A CALIFORNIA BASED
NONPROFIT FOCUSED ON ADVANCING
ENVIRONMENTAL AND CLIMATE
LITERACY IN OUR K-12 PUBLIC
SCHOOL SYSTEM. AS A FIELD
CATALYST, OUR ORGANIZATION WORKS
WITH PARTNERS ACROSS THE STATE
TO ADVOCATE FOR PUBLIC FUNDING.
TO SUPPORT THIS MISSION. WE WORK
WITH SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND COUNTY
OFFICES OF EDUCATION TO BUILD
CAPACITY ACROSS THE EDUCATION
SYSTEM, AND WE STRENGTHEN THE
NETWORK OF FORMAL AND NON-FORMAL
PROVIDERS WHO DEVELOP
EDUCATIONAL JOURNEYS THAT CENTER
ON THE INTERDEPENDENCE OF HUMANS
AND NATURAL SYSTEMS IN 2013, WE
PARTNERED WITH CALRECYCLE ON THE
EDUCATION AND ENVIRONMENT
INITIATIVE CURRICULUM. THROUGH
THAT PARTNERSHIP, MORE THAN 13
MILLION EDUCATION ENVIRONMENTAL
LESSONS WERE DELIVERED ACROSS
6000 SCHOOLS, WITH ONLY 10% OF
THE TEACHER POPULATION HAVING
RECEIVED TRAINING AND SUPPORT.
IN 2021, THE STATE LEGISLATURE
INVESTED IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF A
NEW SET OF CURRICULAR RESOURCES
FOCUSED ON CLIMATE CHANGE AND
ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE, TOGETHER
WITH SAN MATEO COUNTY OFFICE OF
EDUCATION, WE ARE LEADING THE
DEVELOPMENT OF THOSE RESOURCES,
SCHEDULED TO BE DELIVERED NEXT
SPRING. AB 3051 WOULD PROVIDE AN
AVENUE FOR INDIVIDUAL TAXPAYERS
TO SUPPLEMENT THE STATE'S
INVESTMENT IN CLIMATE CHANGE
EDUCATION BY CREATING A
SUSTAINABLE SOURCE OF FUNDING TO
ADDRESS THE URGENT NEED FOR
TEACHER PROFESSIONAL LEARNING.
LAST WEEK, OUR COALITION
LAUNCHED A CAMPAIGN IN SUPPORT
OF THIS BILL. IN JUST OVER 48
HOURS, 79 ORGANIZATIONS AND 303
INDIVIDUALS SIGNED ON TO SIGNAL
THEIR BELIEF THAT EDUCATION IS A
KEY CLIMATE SOLUTION. WE ARE
GRATEFUL TO ASSEMBLY MEMBER
MURATSUCHI FOR HIS DEDICATION TO
EDUCATION, THE ENVIRONMENT AND
OUR COMMUNITIES, AS WELL AS THE
MANY LEGISLATORS BOTH PAST AND
PRESENT, WHO HAVE WORKED
TIRELESSLY TO PASS LEGISLATION
THAT LAID THE FOUNDATION FOR
THIS BILL. OUR COALITION
BELIEVES THAT EVEN IN A YEAR
WITH A CHALLENGING FISCAL
OUTLOOK, WE CAN CONTINUE THE
MOMENTUM THAT HAS BEEN BUILDING
FOR DECADES. TEN STRANDS IS IN
STRONG SUPPORT OF AB 3051. THANK
YOU. ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE ANY
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION? OR
SUPPORT IN THE ROOM? OKAY,
QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE.
MISS RIVAS, FIRST, I WANT TO
THANK ASSEMBLY MEMBER MURATSUCHI
FOR BRINGING THIS IMPORTANT
ISSUE TO OUR COMMITTEE TODAY.
YOU KNOW, AS YOU MAY KNOW, LAST
YEAR I AUTHORED AB 285, WHICH
MADE CLIMATE CHANGE EDUCATION A
COURSE REQUIREMENT FOR GRADES
ONE THROUGH 12 AND BASED ON THAT
EXPERIENCE, I WAS ABLE TO
INTERACT WITH, LIKE YOU
MENTIONED IN YOUR TESTIMONIES,
LOTS OF PEOPLE THAT WANT TO
PARENTS, TEACHERS, YOUNG PEOPLE
THAT WANT TO LEARN ABOUT CLIMATE
CHANGE OR PARENTS AND TEACHERS
THAT WANT TO TEACH AND HAVE
THEIR KIDS LEARN ABOUT CLIMATE
CHANGE. SO THE DEMAND IS OUT
THERE, AND WE NEED MORE FUNDING
TO PROVIDE THAT, ESPECIALLY THE
PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT FOR THE
EDUCATORS, AND THAT'S WHY I, YOU
KNOW, I'M 100% IN SUPPORT OF
THIS BILL AND, AND VERY HAPPY TO
SEE THIS, BEING BROUGHT FORWARD
TO OUR COMMITTEE TODAY, AND I
RESPECTFULLY WANT TO ASK TO BE
ADDED AS A COAUTHOR. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, MISS RIVAS. I CHAIR
THE EDUCATION COMMITTEE. I'M
VERY FAMILIAR WITH YOUR
LEADERSHIP IN PROMOTING CLIMATE
LITERACY, CLIMATE EDUCATION. AND
SO I WOULD VERY MUCH APPRECIATE
YOUR CO-AUTHORSHIP OF THIS
MEASURE. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER
COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM THE
COMMITTEE? MR. MURATSUCHI WOULD
YOU LIKE TO CLOSE RESPECTFULLY
ASK FOR A VOTE? ALL RIGHT. AND
THE MOTION MOVED BY ASSEMBLY
MEMBER GIBSON, SECONDED BY
ASSEMBLY MEMBER GRAYSON. THE
MOTION IS TO PASS, AS AMENDED,
TO APPROPRIATIONS. MISS HYLAND,
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON AB 351.
THE MOTION IS DO PASS, AS
AMENDED, TO APPROPRIATIONS.
IRWIN I. IRWIN I TO BAINES.
BAINES I GIBSON A GIBSON I
GRAYSON I GRAYSON I JIM
PATTERSON. JIM PATTERSON I THREE
OF US RIVERSIDE. IT PASSES SIX
ZERO THANK YOU THAT THAT IS OUT
SIX ZERO AND MR. GIBSON IS GOING
TO THIS FILE ITEM FOR AB 3141.
AND YOU MAY BEGIN WHENEVER YOU
ARE READY. MR. GIBSON. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIR. AND ALSO
COMMITTEE MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR
ALLOWING ME TO PRESENT, SIMILAR
BILL 3141, WHICH SEEKS TO DEFER
POTENTIAL INCREASE IN PROPERTY
TAX FOR TENANTS AT THE
CALIFORNIA PORTS ON THE VALUE OF
NEW INFRASTRUCTURE BUILT TO
IMPROVE AIR AND WATER QUALITY.
AND I BRING THIS BILL ALSO, NOT
ONLY AS AN AUTHOR OF THIS BILL,
BUT ALSO THE CHAIR OF THE SELECT
COMMITTEE ON PORTS AND GOODS
MOVEMENT, IN THE ASSEMBLY, OUR
PORTS, IN CALIFORNIA, ARE THE
ABSOLUTE BACKBONES OF OUR
ECONOMY. WE IMPORT NEARLY 40% OF
ALL GOODS USED IN THE NATION AND
ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR BILLIONS OF
DOLLARS IN COMMERCIAL AS WELL
AS, THOUSANDS OF GOOD PAYING
JOBS. AND THE GOODS MOVEMENT
SECTOR AT THE SAME TIME THAT THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA HAS SET OUT
ABOUT SOME OF THE MOST AMBIGUOUS
OR, EXCUSE ME, AMBITIOUS,
ENVIRONMENTAL STANDARDS THAT THE
COUNTRY HAS EVER SEEN, OUR PORTS
HAVE BEEN GREAT PARTNERS DÍAS,
WITH THESE GOALS AND HAVE MANY
TIMES SEEN, THEM THEMSELVES
GOING OVER AND BEYOND THE CALL
OF DUTY IN TERMS OF THE
OBLIGATION AND RESPONSIBILITY IN
MEETING THESE GOALS. WHILE
CALIFORNIA PORTS ARE A PUBLIC
ENTITLED ENTITLES THE SHIP LINE
THAT LEASE THAT LEASES OUT
TERMINALS AND THE PORTS
OPERATING AS BUSINESSES. WHILE
THESE SHIPPING LINES HAVE BEEN
SUPPORTIVE OF THE SHIFT TO ZERO
EMISSIONS, AS WELL AS THEIR AIR
ARE BEING SEEN TO IMPACT, OF THE
INFRASTRUCTURE BEING BROUGHT
INTO OUR PORTS. THIS BILL,
ASSEMBLY BILL 3141, SEEKS TO
DELAY, REASSESSMENTS OF PROPERTY
VALUE UNTIL A CHANGE OF LEASE
HAPPENS. THIS BILL WOULD ALSO
NOT AFFECT ANY LEASE AGREEMENTS
THAT CURRENTLY UNDER CONTRACT,
MEANING THAT THEY WOULD NOT HAVE
ANY IMMEDIATE IMPACT ON THE
REVENUE OR PROPERTY TAX. HERE
SUPPORTING THIS BILL. ASSEMBLY
BILL 3141, IS MIKE JACOBS, THE
PRESIDENT OF THE PACIFIC MARINE
SHIPPING ASSOCIATION, WHO WILL
SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF 3141. THANK
YOU, MR. GIBSON, GOOD AFTERNOON,
MADAM CHAIR. MEMBERS. MIKE JACOB
WITH PMSA REPRESENTING OCEAN
CARRIERS, MARINE TERMINAL
OPERATORS, AND AS MR. GIBSON
STATED, WE'RE IN SUPPORT OF THIS
BILL, SPONSORING THIS BILL IN
ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT AS WE'RE
MOVING FORWARD WITH MAKING
INVESTMENTS IN THE TYPES OF
INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE NEED TO
CLEAN AIR AND WATER IMPACTS FROM
OUR OPERATIONS, WE'RE ALSO NOT
MAKING THOSE INCREASES IN IN THE
ACTUAL INFRASTRUCTURE
IMPROVEMENTS. TRANSLATE INTO
INCREASES IN OUR TAXES. AT THE
SAME TIME, MAKING THOSE
IMPROVEMENTS MORE EXPENSIVE THAN
THEY ALREADY ARE. WE WANT TO
MAKE SURE THAT AS WE MOVE
FORWARD, WE HAVE A MECHANISM FOR
CAPTURING THAT ADDITIONAL VALUE
ULTIMATELY IN THE TAX BASE. AND
WE BELIEVE THAT OCCURS, AT THE
END OF OUR LEASE. TOURM, AND SO
WHAT WE'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE
WE'RE DOING HERE IS CAPTURING
THAT VALUE, WHEN IT'S PART OF A
NEW REVENUE COMPACT, WHICH IS
DONE BETWEEN OUR MEMBERS AS
MARINE TERMINAL OPERATORS AND
THE PORTS AS OUR LANDLORDS, AS
OPPOSED TO IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR
LEASE TERMS, WHICH FOR MANY OF
OUR MEMBERS CAN RUN SEVERAL
DECADES. SO WE HAVE VARIOUS
DIFFERENT TIMES WHERE THERE ARE
REASSESSMENT EVENTS CURRENTLY.
AND WE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE
THAT THESE ENVIRONMENTAL
IMPROVEMENTS DON'T TURN INTO ONE
OF THEM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT? WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION? I'LL TURN IT TO THE
COMMITTEE. ANY QUESTIONS,
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ALL
RIGHT, MR. GIBSON, SO I HAVE
HERE THAT, THERE ARE IN THE
ANALYSIS, THERE WERE SOME
CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUES RAISED. DO
YOU HAVE ANY RESPONSE TO ONE OF
YOU TO THE. YEAH, I'M HAPPY TO
ADDRESS THOSE. THANK YOU, THIS
THIS IS A VERY INTERESTING,
ISSUE. AND I'M GLAD THAT THE
ANALYSIS RAISED IT, THERE ARE
SEVERAL QUESTIONS ABOUT WHETHER
OR NOT, YOU CAN HAVE ANY TYPE OF
PROPERTY INTEREST IN A
POSSESSORY INTEREST IS A
PROPERTY INTEREST. AND THAT'S
THE BASIS OF WHAT WE'RE IN,
WHICH WE'RE TAXED, WHERE YOU
DON'T HAVE AN ASSESSMENT, WHEN
YOU HAVE A CHANGE IN VALUE LIKE
THIS. AND SO WHAT WE'RE
PROPOSING, IS SIMILAR TO WHAT
OCCURRED IN ANOTHER BILL WHICH
WAS PASSED EARLIER THIS SESSION,
AND THAT WAS A BILL THAT, DIDN'T
HAVE ANY FLAGS WITH RESPECT TO
CONSTITUTIONALITY, WE EXPECT TO
CONTINUE TO HAVE THIS
CONVERSATION AND WE, THE
ACTUALLY HAD A PROACTIVE
CONVERSATION WITH THE ASSESSOR'S
, WHO REACHED OUT TO THE
AUTHOR'S OFFICE AND TO US AS
SPONSORS TO CONTINUE TO HAVE
THAT CONVERSATION AND SEE IF WE
CAN ELABORATE ON THAT. SO WE
KNOW THAT THAT'S A CONCERN, THIS
BILL HASN'T BEEN FLAGGED WITH
THAT POTENTIAL, ISSUE BY ALLEGED
COUNSEL, SO WE'RE ACTUALLY
SOMEWHAT POSITIVE ABOUT THAT,
LEADING INTO IT, BUT WE, WE DO
UNDERSTAND THAT'S A CONVERSATION
THAT NEEDS TO CONTINUE. ALL
RIGHT. VERY GOOD. MR. GIBSON,
WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE? YES.
AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR
ALLOWING ME TO PRESENT THIS
BILL, IN CONCLUSION, THIS BILL
AIMS TO MAKE SURE THAT SHIPPING
LINES CONTINUE TO DO BUSINESS
AND OPERATE INSIDE CALIFORNIA'S
PORTS TO ENSURE A COMPETITIVE
AND ALSO EFFICIENCY, AGAIN,
CALIFORNIA'S PORTS IS THE
ECONOMIC ENGINE FOR CALIFORNIA,
AND WE WANT TO MAINTAIN THAT
FOOTING, AND ALL THAT IT BRINGS
AND ALL THAT IT OFFERS. I
RESPECTFULLY ASK WHEN I VOTE AT
THE APPROPRIATE TIME. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH, MR. GIBSON. AND
WITHOUT OBJECTION, THIS BILL
WILL BE REFERRED TO OUR SUSPENSE
FILE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK
YOU SIR. THANKS FOR COMING DOWN
.
A ROGUE MEMBER OF DÍAS. AND WE
DO HAVE ONE FINAL ITEM. FILE
ITEM NUMBER SIX, AG R 15. AND IT
IS AUTHORED BY CHAIR ERWIN. AND
WE WILL LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING
YOU PRESENT, PLEASE. ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND GOOD
AFTERNOON, COLLEAGUES. TODAY I'M
PRESENTING A JR 15, WHICH URGES
CONGRESS TO REVISIT THE
MISGUIDED DECISION TO CAP THE
STATE AND LOCAL INCOME TAX
DEDUCTION AT $10,000 FOR BOTH
INDIVIDUALS AND MARRIED COUPLES
FILING JOINTLY AS OUTLINED IN
THE ANALYSIS, THE SALT DEDUCTION
HAS BEEN A FEATURE OF THE
FEDERAL TAX CODE THAT DATES BACK
TO THE VERY FIRST INCOME TAX,
THAT WAS IMPOSED DURING THE
CIVIL WAR. THE LOGIC THEN, WHICH
STILL APPLIES TODAY, IS THAT TAX
PAYMENTS TO STATE AND LOCAL
GOVERNMENT ARE NOT OPTIONAL. THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SHOULD NOT BE
TAXING INCOME THAT IS ALREADY
SPOKEN FOR, AND FOR WHICH PEOPLE
DO NOT HAVE CONTROL OVER DOING
SO WOULD CONSTITUTE A TAX UPON A
TAX. BY RECOGNIZING THAT SIMPLE
FACT, THIS SIMPLE FACT, THE SALT
DEDUCTION REFLECTED A KEY
PRINCIPLE OF FEDERALISM AND
NONINTERFERENCE BY THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT AND STATE AND LOCAL
AFFAIRS. ONLY VERY RECENTLY, IN
2017, DID THIS BIPARTISAN
CONSENSUS GIVE WAY WHEN THE TCJA
WAS PASSED OUT OF CONGRESS,
REPUBLICANS IN DC WERE NOT SHY
ABOUT USING THE SALT DEDUCTION
AS A TOOL TO PUT THEIR FINGER ON
THE SCALE AND PUNISH BLUE
STATES. THIS WAS NOT ABOUT
THOUGHTFUL TAX POLICY, AS
EVIDENCED BY THE FACT THAT
MARRIED COUPLES AND INDIVIDUAL
FILERS ARE ALLOWED THE SAME
DEDUCTION DEDUCTION AMOUNT AFTER
THE TCJA WENT INTO EFFECT. I
THINK WE ALL HEARD LOUD AND
CLEAR FROM OUR CONSTITUENTS THAT
THEY WERE VERY UPSET. PEOPLE
THAT PREVIOUSLY RECEIVED REFUNDS
ON THEIR FEDERAL TAXES ARE NOW
SURPRISED TO FIND THAT THEY OWED
MONEY TO THE IRS, EVEN THOUGH
THEIR INCOME STAYED THE SAME.
OVERWHELMINGLY, I HAVE HEARD
FROM MARRIED COUPLES THAT THEY
WERE RIGHTFULLY OFFENDED THAT
THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER OFF
IF THEY WOULD FILE THEIR TAXES
SEPARATELY. A.J.R 15 URGES
CONGRESS TO FIX THIS PENALTY ON
MARRIED COUPLES AND LIFT THE
SALT DEDUCTION CONSISTENT WITH
HOW IT HAD OPERATED MONTHS
BEFORE THE TCJA WITH ME HERE
TODAY IS VANESSA CHÁVEZ WITH THE
CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF
REALTORS. THANK YOU, CHAIR AND
MEMBERS, VANESSA CHÁVEZ WITH THE
CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF
REALTORS, AND SUPPORT OF AJA 15.
THIS MEASURE CALLS ON CONGRESS
AND STRESSES THE URGENCY OF
REPEALING THE SALT CAP, WHICH
WAS ENACTED UNDER THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION. THE CHANGE
PENALIZED HIGH COST STATES SUCH
AS CALIFORNIA, NEW YORK AND NEW
JERSEY BY LIMITING THE STATE AND
LOCAL TAXES. A TAXPAYER IS ABLE
TO DEDUCT. FOR EXAMPLE, IN SAN
FRANCISCO, THE MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD
INCOME, AS REPORTED BY THE U.S.
CENSUS BUREAU, STATES THAT IT IS
ROUGHLY $136,000 AS COMPARED TO
THE NATIONAL FIGURE, WHICH IS
HALF THAT AMOUNT COMING IN AT
ROUGHLY $74,000. THE SALT
DEDUCTION INCLUDES PROPERTY
INCOME AND SALES TAX. TO BE MORE
SPECIFIC, A TAXPAYER WHO
ITEMIZES CAN DEDUCT PROPERTY
TAXES, BUT THE TAXPAYER NEEDS TO
CHOOSE BETWEEN DEDUCTING INCOME
AND SALES TAX. TAXPAYERS OF
STATES WITH HIGH INCOME TAXES
TYPICALLY TYPICALLY OPT TO
DEDUCT THEIR STATE AND LOCAL
INCOME TAXES, WHILE TAXPAYERS OF
STATES WITH HIGH SALES TAX
TYPICALLY DEDUCT THEIR SALES
TAXES. GENERALLY, TAXPAYERS
DEDUCT PROPERTY AND INCOME TAXES
USING THE SALT DEDUCTION. ONE OF
THE MORE NOTABLE, IF NOT THE
MOST DAMAGING PROVISIONS OF THE
TAX CUTS AND JOBS ACT WAS THE
LIMITATION OF STATE AND LOCAL
TAXES FOR TAXPAYERS WHO FILE
JOINTLY AS THE LIMITATION IS
CAPPED AT $10,000, MEANING THAT
A TAXPAYER WHO FILES SINGLE HAS
THE SAME LIMIT AS TWO TAXPAYERS
WHO FILE TOGETHER. THIS CHANGE
HAS LED TO DISPROPORTIONATELY
PENALIZING FAMILIES IN
CALIFORNIA. AS A RESULT, WE HAVE
FAMILIES WHO ARE ALREADY DEALING
WITH THE MANY HARDSHIPS OF THESE
CHANGES AND HOMEOWNERS IN
CALIFORNIA WHO ARE INCURRING
HIGH COSTS OF HOUSING, WHICH
INCLUDES INCREASED INSURANCE
COSTS AND HIGH INTEREST RATES,
JUST TO NAME A FEW. THE SALT CAP
CREATES A BURDEN TO OUR STATE'S
FAMILIES, AND REFORM IS
NECESSARY TO ENSURE RESIDENTS OF
THE STATE ARE ABLE TO MEET THE
MEET. THE BASIC NEEDS OF THEIR
FAMILIES. FOR THESE REASONS, WE
ASK FOR YOUR VOTE. THANK YOU FOR
YOUR TESTIMONY AND DO WE HAVE
ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN THE ROOM
WISHING TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT?
SEEING NO RUSH FOR THE
MICROPHONE, WE WILL ASK FOR
OPPOSITION AND SEEING NO RUSH
FOR THE MICROPHONE, WE WILL
BRING IT TO THE COMMITTEE, ANY
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? MØT BEALL
. SO WE DO HAVE A MOTION. A
SECOND MEMBER WOULD OR WOULD YOU
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR. AYE
VOTE? THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
THAT. CLOSE. AND WE DO HAVE A
MOTION AND A SECOND MOTION FROM
ASSEMBLYMEMBER GIBSON AND A
SECOND FROM ASSEMBLYMEMBER THREE
OF US. OH, WAS IT. YES, IT WAS
BAINES. YES, THAT'S WHAT I WAS.
OH, WAS DOCTOR BAINES ALL RIGHT,
DOCTOR BAINES, YOU'RE THE
SECOND, WITH THAT, SECRETARY,
WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON
H.R. 15? THE MOTION IS TO BE
ADOPTED AND PASSED TO
APPROPRIATIONS. ERWIN I, ERWIN I
TO BAINES I BAINES I GIBSON A
GIBSON I GRAYSON I GRAYSON I JIM
PATTERSON. JIM PATTERSON I THREE
OF US I, MR. CHAIRMAN, THE VOTE
IS SIX ZERO. THE BILL IS PASS.
THE BILL GETS OUT SIX ZERO.
THANK YOU MEMBERS. THANK YOU.
NOW. WELL, AS MR. CHALKER ME
BACK. WE WILL HOLD. WILL WE HOLD
THAT OPEN FOR ABSENT MEMBER. OH,
AGAIN. SORRY ABOUT THAT. THAT
LOOKS EXACTLY LIKE SOMETHING I
WOULD DO. THANK. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. AND WE WILL I WE WILL HOLD
THE ROLL OPEN FOR TEN MINUTES.
YEAH I YOU YOU HAVE EVERYTHING
YOU. I JUST WANTED TO CHECK IF I
VOTED FOR EVERYTHING. YES THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. THAT'S ALL. WE'RE
JUST MISSING MR. TOTH.
NICE WET PARIS HILTON. OH! THERE
SHE.
STILL. THIS IS WHAT I HAVE. THIS
ONE. ALL RIGHT. CAN I HAVE THE
SECRETARY, YES. PLEASE CALL THE
ABSENTEE, BUT NOW PRESENT MEMBER
ON AB 351. THAT BILL HAS BEEN
PASSED TO APPROPRIATIONS. ABSENT
MEMBER TO NOT VOTING TO NOT
VOTING. AND THE LAST MEASURE AG
15, WHICH HAS BEEN ADOPTED IN
PASSED TO APPROPRIATIONS. ABSENT
MEMBER TO NOT VOTING TO NOT
VOTING. ALL RIGHT. AND WITH
THAT, THIS MEETING OF THE
ASSEMBLY REVENUE AND TAXATION
COMMITTEE IS ADJOURNED