GOOD MORNING, WELCOME TO THE
APRIL 17TH, 2024 ASSEMBLY
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE
HEARING. WE HAVE 97 BILLS TO
CONSIDER THIS MORNING AS PART OF
OUR REGULAR ORDER HEARING. WE
ENCOURAGE THE PUBLIC TO PROVIDE
WRITTEN TESTIMONY BEFORE THE
HEARING BY VISITING THE
COMMITTEE WEBSITE AT APPRO DOT
ASSEMBLY DOT CA.GOV. PLEASE NOTE
THAT ANY WRITTEN TESTIMONY
SUBMITTED TO THE COMMITTEE IS
CONSIDERED PUBLIC COMMENT AND
MAY BE READ INTO THE RECORD OR
REPRINTED. THE HEARING ROOM IS
OPEN FOR ATTENDANCE. ALL ARE
ENCOURAGED TO WATCH THE HEARING
FROM ITS LIVE STREAM ON THE
ASSEMBLY'S WEBSITE AT ASSEMBLY
CA.GOV FORWARD SLASH TODAY'S
EVENTS. WE ENCOURAGE THE PUBLIC
TO MONITOR THE COMMITTEE'S
WEBSITE FOR UPDATES. WE WILL
ACCEPT PUBLIC COMMENT ON ANY
BILL PLACED ON THE SUSPENSE FILE
BY THE COMMITTEE TODAY, AND FOR
WHICH THE AUTHOR WAIVED
PRESENTATION BEFORE THE CLOSE OF
REGULAR ORDER HEARING TESTIMONY
ON ANY SUCH BILL WILL BE LIMITED
TO A STATEMENT OF NAME,
ORGANIZATION, IF ANY, AND
POSITION ON THE BILL. THE
COMMITTEE WILL ALLOW NO MORE
THAN 40 MINUTES OF TESTIMONY IN
TOTAL. AS YOU CAME INTO THE
HEARING ROOM TODAY, THE
SERGEANTS DIRECTED YOUR
ATTENTION TO THE RULES FOR
PUBLIC ATTENDANCE AND
PARTICIPATION, WHICH WERE POSTED
OUTSIDE THE DOOR. I ENCOURAGE
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO ARE IN
ATTENDANCE TO BE AWARE OF AND
OBSERVE THOSE RULES. PLEASE BE
AWARE THAT VIOLATIONS OF THESE
RULES OR OTHER VIOLATIONS OF
GENERAL COURTESY OR DECORUM MAY
BE MAY SUBJECT YOU TO REMOVAL OR
OTHER ENFORCEMENT PROCESSES.
WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO ESTABLISH
A QUORUM, MADAM SECRETARY IS A
QUORUM PRESENT? PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL. WICKS HERE. WIX. HERE.
SANCHEZ. SANCHEZ. HERE ARAMBULA.
ARAMBULA. HERE. BRIAN CALDERON.
WENDY. CARILLO. DIXON DIXON.
HERE. MIKE. FONG. MIKE. FONG
HERE. GRAYSON. HANEY HANEY.
HERE. HART HART. HERE. JIM.
PATTERSON. PELLERIN HALLORAN.
HERE TO TARR. HERE WE HAVE A
QUORUM. GREAT. I'D LIKE TO
DISPENSE WITH THE CONSENT
CALENDAR. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A
SECOND FEDERAL, 1782 TO 1785.
PACHECO 1805 TO 1821. RAMOS
1870. ORTEGA, 1871. ALANIZ,
1940. VÆ. VALLAPUDUA 1947. THREE
OF US 1955. WARD 1994. COMMITTEE
ON MILITARY AND VETERANS AFFAIRS
2044. CHEN 2123. PAPIN 2154.
BERMAN 2166. WEBBER 2177.
MCKENNA 2227. HOOVER 2269. FLORA
2275. MIKE FONG 20 305. MIKE
FONG 2327. WENDY CARILLO 2345.
JIM PATTERSON 2359. TÍNH 2378.
CALDERON 23 SORRY 2477 ZUBIATE
2582. PELLERIN 2621. GABRIEL
2770. COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC
EMPLOYMENT AND RETIREMENT 2787.
JOE PATTERSON 2797. BLANCA RUBIO
2822. GABRIEL 2849. BLANCA RUBIO
2860. GARCIA 2864, GARCIA 2991,
VALENCIA 30 105. FLORA AND 3247
ERWIN. WICKS I WICKS I SANCHEZ.
SANCHEZ I ARAMBULA. ARAMBULA I
BRIAN. CALDERON WENDY. CARILLO
DIXON. DIXON I. MIKE FONG. MIKE.
FONG I GRAYSON HANEY. HANEY I
HOT, HOT I JIM PATTERSON.
PELLERIN. PELLERIN I TO T I VÆ
VALLAPUDUA. ADOPTED CONSENT
CALENDAR IS ADOPTED. WE'LL LET
FOLKS ADD ON THOUGH, GREAT, NOW
I WOULD LIKE TO DISPENSE WITH
THIS. THE SUSPENSE CALENDAR.
MADAM SECRETARY, WOULD YOU
PLEASE READ THE SUSPENSE
CALENDAR? FOLLOWING BILLS ARE
ALL ABS. 18 ZERO EIGHT STEPHANIE
NGUYEN, 1832. BLANCA RUBIO,
1888. ARAMBULA 1908. SCHIAVO,
1911. REYES 1926. CONNOLLY, 1959
GRAYSON, 1960. SORA SORIA 1976.
HANEY 1979. WARD 1993 CORA 1997
MCKENNA 2002. SANCHEZ 2096.
PETRIE-NORRIS 2098. BAUER Kò
HÌNH 20 108. RAMOS 2116. GRAYSON
2130. SANTIAGO 2141. CARILLO
2152. MCCARTY 2229. WILSON 2245
ONE. CAREER. 2298 HART 2239
AGUIAR-CURRY 2240 2349. WILSON
2375. LOWENTHAL 2398. CORA 2420,
LOWENTHAL 2426. ERWIN 2446.
ORTEGA 2471, JIM PATTERSON 2475,
HANEY 2483, TING 2534. FLORA
2648, BENNETT 20 703,
AGUIAR-CURRY 2714, WALLACE 2722.
FRIEDMAN 2753, ORTEGA 2764, JIM
PATTERSON 2766, LOW 2814. LOW
2817. DIXON 2831. HOOVER. 2875
FRIEDMAN. 2882. MCCARTY. 2888
CHEN 2913. GIBSON 2944. WALDRON
2958, CALDERON 3042. STEPHANIE
NGUYEN 30 203. AGUIAR-CURRY
3209. BERMAN AND 3220 3216.
HOOVER AND A CORRECTION. IT'S AB
20. EIGHT. AB 2099 BAUER. COHEN.
GREAT. THE SUSPENSE CALENDAR IS
DEEMED APPROVED, AND OUR FIRST
MEMBER UP IS MR. HART. AND I
BELIEVE YOU WILL BE PRESENTING
FOR MR. BENNETT. AND YOU ALSO
HAVE A BILL YOURSELF. WOULD YOU
LIKE TO DO? FIRST, LET'S START
WITH THE ASSEMBLY MEMBER
BENNETT'S BILL. SOME MEMBER
BENNETT'S BILL, WHICH IS, AB
3162. GREAT THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. AND
MEMBERS. AB 3162 IS A BILL TO
PROTECT AN INTELLIGENT, SEA
DWELLING ANIMAL FROM UNNECESSARY
CRUELTY. AS THE APPROPRIATIONS
COMMITTEE ANALYSIS SAYS, THIS
BILL IS ESTIMATED TO COST UNDER
$150,000. THIS BILL HAS NO
OPPOSITION. WITH ME TODAY IS
SUSAN MARINO, ANIMAL LEGAL
DEFENSE. GOOD MORNING, CHAIR AND
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, SUSAN
MATTINAT HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF
ANIMAL LEGAL DEFENSE FUND, ONE
OF THE BILL'S CO-SPONSORS, THE
CASE AGAINST OCTOPUS FARMING IS
CLEAR AND COMPELLING. AB 3162 IS
AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEND A CLEAR
MESSAGE THAT OCTOPUS FARMING HAS
NO PLACE IN CALIFORNIA. WHILE
IMPOSING VERY LIMITED COSTS TO
THE STATE. AS NOTED IN IN THE
ANALYSIS. GIVEN THIS MEASURE IS
PROACTIVE, IT'S ENFORCEMENT WILL
HAVE MINOR AND ABSORBABLE COSTS,
FOR THESE REASONS, WE
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR VOTE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER FOLKS,
SORRY. ANY OPPOSITION? NO ANY
FOLKS IN THE ROOM WISH TO
EXPRESS SUPPORT, ANY OPPOSITION?
AND WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO
COMMITTEE. WE HAVE A MOTION AND
A SECOND. OKAY WOULD YOU LIKE TO
CLOSE THIS? RESPECTFULLY REQUEST
YOUR VOTE. OKAY. AND THIS BILL
ENJOYS A DUE PASS
RECOMMENDATION, AND WITH THAT.
OH, SORRY. WE'RE NOT DOING ROLL
CALL RIGHT, IT'S, B ROLL CALL.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. AND NOW
YOUR SECOND BILL. YES, I'M
PLEASED TO PRESENT AB 3077, AB
3077. WILL ADD BORDERLINE
PERSONALITY DISORDER TO THE
EXISTING LIST OF PSYCHIATRIC
DIAGNOSES THE JUDGES MAY
CONSIDER WHEN EVALUATING IF
DEFENDANTS ARE COMPETENT TO
STAND TRIAL AND ELIGIBLE TO HAVE
THEIR SENTENCING ENHANCEMENTS
DISMISSED. WE ESTIMATE AB 3077
WILL BE OF MINIMAL COST TO THE
STATE IN FACT, IT COULD HAVE
COST SAVINGS BENEFITS AS A
RESULT OF SENTENCING
ENHANCEMENT, DISMISSAL, REDUCED
RECIDIVISM AND RECEIVING
TREATMENT FROM A COUNTY MENTAL
HEALTH FACILITY AS OPPOSED TO
STATE FACILITIES. PRESENTING
WITH ME TODAY IS TARA GAMBOA
EASTMAN, THE DIRECTOR OF
GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS AT THE
STEINBERG INSTITUTE. GOOD
MORNING, CHAIR AND MEMBERS TARA
GAMBOA EASTMAN WITH THE
STEINBERG INSTITUTE, PROUD TO
SUPPORT AB 3077 TO END
DISCRIMINATION OF BORDERLINE
PERSONALITY DISORDER IN OUR
CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM. IT'S
RARE THAT WE HAVE A BILL THAT
HAS THE POTENTIAL FOR SO MUCH
IMPACT WITH SO FEW COSTS.
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR AYE
VOTE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ANY
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION? ANYONE
IN THE ROOM WISH TO EXPRESS
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION? ANY
QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE? A
MOTION A SECOND AND WOULD YOU
LIKE TO CLOSE? YES. I
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST AN AYE
VOTE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR.
ART. AND YOUR BILL IS OUT ON A B
ROLL CALL. THANK YOU, NEXT UP,
WE WILL. MR. ARAMBULA, IF YOU'D
LIKE TO PRESENT FOR MR. VONTAZE
.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS. AND THANK YOU FOR
ALLOWING ME TO PRESENT ON BEHALF
OF OUR COLLEAGUE SABRINA
CERVANTES, ASSEMBLY BILL 2070
WILL ENHANCE FACULTY
REPRESENTATION ON THE CSU BOARD
OF TRUSTEES BY REQUIRING THE
GOVERNOR TO APPOINT AN
ADDITIONAL FACULTY MEMBER FOR A
TOTAL OF TWO FACULTY APPOINTEES.
ASSEMBLY BILL 2070 WILL PROVIDE
THE BOARD WITH A RICHER AND MORE
DIVERSE SET OF PERSPECTIVES,
INCLUDING OF THE INEQUITIES
EXPERIENCED BY UNDERREPRESENTED
INDIVIDUALS IN HIGHER EDUCATION,
BY INCREASING FACULTY
REPRESENTATION ON THE BOARD FROM
JUST ONE VOTING MEMBER TO TWO.
ACCORDING TO THE COMMITTEE
ANALYSIS. CSU ESTIMATES THAT
THIS WILL CAUSE MINOR GENERAL
FUND COSTS TO APPOINT ANOTHER
MEMBER TO THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES.
THANK YOU COLLEAGUES AND THE
REST OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS
FOR YOUR TIME AND ANALYSIS ON
THIS BILL WITH ME TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS. ARE THE SPONSORS
CALIFORNIA FACULTY ASSOCIATION,
BRIAN HAW. THANK YOU. YOU MAY
BEGIN IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS. OH
GOOD MORNING, MADAM CHAIR AND
COMMITTEE MEMBERS, IN THE
INTEREST OF TIME, I'M JUST HERE
TO ANSWER QUESTIONS, WE ARE JUST
SIMPLY DON'T WANT TO REPEAT
WHAT, WHAT THE ASSEMBLYMAN SAID,
BUT IT'S A VERY SIMPLIFIED BILL.
WE BELIEVE THAT THE COST IS
ABSORBABLE BY THE CSU. OKAY.
THANK YOU. AND, ANY WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION? NO. OKAY ANY FOLKS
ELSE IN THE ROOM WISH TO EXPRESS
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION? WE WILL
BRING IT BACK TO COMMITTEE. ANY
QUESTIONS? HIS MOTION AND A
SECOND. OKAY AND, THIS BILL
ENJOYS A DUE PASS
RECOMMENDATION. IT'S OUT ON A B
ROLL CALL WITH MR. PATTERSON NOT
VOTING. MISS PELLERIN, WOULD YOU
LIKE TO PRESENT YOUR BILL
?
GOOD MORNING, CHAIR AND MEMBERS.
UNDER EXISTING LAW, I'M
PRESENTING AB 2249. UNDER
EXISTING LAW, SPECIFIC ELECTION
MATERIALS MUST BE RETAINED BY
COUNTY ELECTIONS OFFICIALS.
RECORDS REGARDING FEDERAL
ELECTIONS MUST BE RETAINED FOR
22 MONTHS, AND ALL OTHER
ELECTION RECORDS MUST BE
RETAINED FOR SIX MONTHS. THE
PACKAGES CONTAINING THESE
MATERIALS MUST REMAIN UNOPENED
FOR THE DURATION OF THE
RETENTION PERIOD, AFTER WHICH
THESE MATERIALS ARE DESTROYED IN
THE PURSUIT OF TRANSPARENT
ELECTIONS, THE PRESERVATION OF
THE PAPER AND ELECTRONIC RECORD
OF THE ELECTION IS OF THE UTMOST
IMPORTANCE. HOWEVER THERE HAVE
BEEN CASES WHERE THE SECRETARY
OF STATE AND A COURT HAVE COME
TO DIFFERING CONCLUSIONS
REGARDING WHICH DOCUMENTS MUST
BE SHARED WITHOUT COMPROMISING
THE SECURITY OF AN ELECTIONS. IN
ORDER TO PROVIDE MORE CLARITY
REGARDING RETENTION AND DOCUMENT
ACCESS, AB 2249 CLARIFIES WHICH
MATERIALS MUST BE RETAINED BY
ELECTIONS OFFICIALS. AB 2249
ADDS TO THE LIST OF ELECTION
RECORDS THAT MUST BE RETAINED IN
UNOPENED PACKAGES FOR THE
REQUIRED TIME PERIOD AFTER AN
ELECTION, AND REQUIRES THESE
ELECTION RECORDS TO BE DESTROYED
OR RECYCLED AFTER THE END OF THE
RETENTION PERIOD. AB 2249 ALSO
REQUIRES AN ELECTION OFFICIAL TO
TAKE ALL RESPONSIBLE STEPS TO
PRESERVE PACKAGE RECORDS IN
LIGHT OF A NATURAL DISASTER OR
OTHER UNFORESEEABLE AND
UNAVOIDABLE CIRCUMSTANCE. THE
BILL IS EXPECTED TO HAVE
NEGLIGIBLE COST TO THE STATE.
ACCORDING TO THE ANALYSIS, THERE
ARE ARE NOT EXPECTED COST TO THE
SECRETARY OF STATE, AND ANY COST
TO THE COURTS IS EXPECTED TO BE
MINIMAL. I THERE'S NO OPPOSITION
TO THE BILL AND I RESPECTFULLY
ASK FOR YOUR AYE VOTE.
THANK YOU, ANY WITNESSES? NO. I
KNOW WE HAVE A MOTION AND A
SECOND. ANYONE ELSE IN THE ROOM
WISH TO EXPRESS SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION? OKAY. WOULD YOU LIKE
TO CLOSE? I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
YOUR VOTE. GREAT. IT ENJOYS A
DUE PASS. IT'S OUT ON A B ROLL
CALL WITH REPUBLICANS NOT
VOTING, BUT WITH MR. PATTERSON
AND MR. TO VOTING NO. THANK YOU.
AND NOW WE ARE OH THERE'S WE'VE
GOT SOME AUTHORS IN THE ROOM MR.
SANTIAGO YOU ARE PRESENTING AB
2516. I APPRECIATE IT. IN THE
INTEREST OF THE COMMITTEE'S
TIME, I'LL BE BRIEF, IF THAT'S
OKAY. AND I WANT TO THANK THE
CHAIR AND THE COMMITTEE STAFF
FOR THEIR WORK ON AB 2516. A
VERY SIMPLE, STRAIGHTFORWARD.
THIS BILL WOULD REQUIRE THE
GOVERNOR TO APPOINT A BARGAINING
UNIT REPRESENTATIVE TO THE CSU
BOARD OF TRUSTEES AND
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN AYE
VOTE. THANK YOU. BRIAN, I WITH
THE CALIFORNIA FACULTY
ASSOCIATION ALSO HERE TO ASK
SOME QUESTIONS, I FEEL SOME
QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. ANY FOLKS
IN THE ROOM WISH TO EXPRESS
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION? ANY
QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE? WE
HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. AND
WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE? MR.
SANTIAGO, I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
AN AYE VOTE. GREAT. THAT'S OUT
ON A B ROLL CALL. THANK YOU, MR.
MANCINI. YOU ARE UP.
YOU CAN BEGIN. THANK YOU, MADAM
CHAIR AND MEMBERS. AB 2739 SEEKS
TO ENSURE ALL GUNS CARRIED
ILLEGALLY ARE TREATED THE SAME
UNDER THE LAW. UNDER CURRENT
LAW, CARRYING A CONCEALED WEAPON
WITHOUT A PERMIT IS A CRIME AND
IS DEEMED A PUBLIC NUISANCE. THE
FIREARM THAT IS ILLEGALLY
CARRIED MUST BE SURRENDERED AND
DESTROYED. HOWEVER, THE SAME
RULES DO NOT EXIST FOR OPENLY
CARRYING AN UNLOADED HANDGUN IN
PUBLIC OR CARRYING A LOADED
FIREARM IN PUBLIC. A B 2739
DECLARES BOTH OF THESE CRIMES A
NUISANCE AND SUBJECTS THE
FIREARMS TO EXISTING SURRENDER
AND DESTROY PROVISIONS.
ADDITIONALLY, AB 2739 APPLIES
THE SAME SURRENDER AND DESTROY
STATUTES TO FIREARMS USED IN
CRIMES WHICH A DEFENDANT IS
GRANTED MISDEMEANOR DIVERSION. I
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR AYE
VOTE. THANK YOU. ANY WITNESSES,
PRIMARY WITNESSES IN SUPPORT OR
OPPOSITION. ANY ADDITIONAL FOLKS
IN THE ROOM WISH TO EXPRESS
SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION? BRING IT
BACK TO COMMITTEE. ANY QUESTIONS
? GREAT. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? WE
DO A MOTION AND A SECOND. OKAY
MR. MANCINI, YOUR BILL IS OUT ON
AN A ROLL CALL WITH MR.
PATTERSON NOT VOTING AS WELL AS
MR. TODD NOT VOTING. THANK YOU.
AND WE ARE LOOKING FOR MR.
CHOLERA. IF ANYONE KNOWS WHERE
MR. CHOLERA IS, PLEASE SEND HIM
TO THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE.
AND WE'LL DO, ADD ONS FOR THE
CONSENT CALENDAR. THE CONSENT
CALENDAR. BRIAN BRIAN. AYE.
CALDERON WENDY. CARILLO. WENDY.
CARILLO. AYE. GRAY SUN. JIM.
PATTERSON. JIM PATTERSON. AYE.
VÆ. VALLAPUDUA VÆ. AYE.
WE HAVE MR. CHOLERA HERE TO
PRESENT AB 3021.
Kò TO STOP AND GET HIS COFFEE
RIGHT. I'M HEADED THERE. NEXT. I
WAS GOING TO SAY I'M HEADED TO
HOUSING NEXT. YEAH. I'LL SEE YOU
THERE SOON. I'LL MAKING SURE,
YOU KNOW. YEAH. GOOD ENVIRONMENT
FOR YOU THERE. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. I DO MISS THAT HOUSING
COMMITTEE, YOU MAY BEGIN YOUR
PRESENTING 20 OR. SORRY, 3021 AB
3021. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MADAM
CHAIR AND MEMBERS, AB 3021 WILL
REQUIRE A PEACE OFFICERS
PROSECUTING ATTORNEYS OR
INVESTIGATORS TO IDENTIFY
THEMSELVES AND EXPLAIN THE
RIGHTS OF INDIVIDUALS BEING
QUESTIONED PRIOR TO ENGAGING
WITH THE FAMILY MEMBER OF
SOMEONE WHO'S BEEN KILLED OR
SEVERELY INJURED BY A PEACE
OFFICER IN THE AFTERMATH OF
INCIDENTS INVOLVING POLICE
VIOLENCE, FAMILIES OF THE VICTIM
ARE OFTEN APPROACHED BY
AUTHORITIES UNDER THE GUISE OF
AN INTERVIEW. FAMILY MEMBERS ARE
TOLD TO GO TO THE PRECINCT, NOT
GIVEN INFORMATION ABOUT THE
STATE OF THEIR LOVED ONE, AND
OFTEN LIED TO ABOUT THE INCIDENT
AS THEY ARE INTERROGATED. WHILE
THE FAMILY MEMBER IS DISTRESSED
AND WORRIED FOR THEIR LOVED ONE.
LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS USE
THIS OPPORTUNITY TO COERCE
INFORMATION ABOUT THE VICTIM'S
PAST IN ORDER TO PAINT A
NARRATIVE ABOUT THE VICTIM OR
BUILD A CASE AGAINST THEM. SUCH
TACTICS NOT ONLY INFLICT HARM
UPON THE VICTIM AND THEIR
FAMILY, BUT ALSO ERODE TRUST IN
LAW ENFORCEMENT. THE RELATIVES
OF INDIVIDUALS AFFECTED BY
POLICE VIOLENCE HAVE A
REASONABLE EXPECTATION OF
TRANSPARENCY AND INFORMATION
ABOUT THE CIRCUMSTANCES
SURROUNDING THEIR LOVED ONES
WELFARE WITHOUT ENCOUNTERING,
DECEIVING AND THREATENING
INFORMATION. BY PUTTING IN A FEW
MOMENTS BETWEEN THE INCIDENT AND
INTERROGATION, WE CAN EMPOWER
FAMILIES TO EXERCISE THEIR
RIGHTS AND INTERACTIONS WITH
POLICE OFFICERS WHEN THEY ARE
MOST VULNERABLE. AS THE
COMMITTEE'S ANALYSIS POINTS OUT,
THE FISCAL IMPACT OF THIS BILL
SHOULD BE MINIMAL. WITH ME TO
PROVIDE SUPPORTING TESTIMONY IS
SHARON WATKINS WITH SILICON
VALLEY DEBUG AND ED LITTLE WITH
CALIFORNIANS FOR SAFETY AND
JUSTICE. THANK YOU. YOU MAY
BEGIN. EACH WITNESS HAS TWO
MINUTES. GOOD MORNING, MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS SHARON WATKINS. MY
SON, PHILLIP WATKINS, WAS KILLED
BY SAN JOSE POLICE ON FEBRUARY
11TH, 2015, MINUTES AFTER I
ARRIVED AT THE HOSPITAL WHERE MY
SON HAD BEEN TAKEN. THE DOCTOR
TOLD ME HE DIED. I REMEMBER
SITTING IN A ROOM WITH A POLICE
OFFICER. NO ONE ELSE WAS IN THE
ROOM. I REMEMBER ASKING HIM,
EVEN BEGGING HIM TO SEE MY SON.
HE KEPT SAYING NO, I DON'T
REMEMBER HOW THE SUBJECT CAME UP
ABOUT ME GOING WITH HIM TO THE
POLICE STATION, BUT I KNOW HE
BROUGHT IT UP. I SAID, NO, I
WASN'T GOING TO ABANDON MY SON.
I ALREADY WASN'T THERE WHEN HE
WAS KILLED. I WASN'T GOING TO
ABANDON HIM AGAIN. AFTER A
MOMENT OR TWO, THE OFFICER SAID
THAT IF I WENT TO THE POLICE
STATION WITH HIM, I MIGHT BE
ABLE TO SEE MY SON. HE DIDN'T
GIVE A GUARANTEE, BUT HE GAVE ME
SOMETHING WORSE. HE GAVE ME
HOPE. WHEN I ARRIVED AT THE
STATION, MY SON'S FIANCE AND HER
MOTHER WERE ALREADY THERE. WE
WERE PUT IN SEPARATE ROOMS AND
INTERROGATED. I WAS ASKED
QUESTIONS ABOUT MY SON'S
RELATIONSHIP WITH HIS FIANCE AND
WHETHER HE WAS USING DRUGS. WHEN
THE INTERROGATION WAS OVER, I
ASKED TO SEE MY SON. I WAS TOLD
NO. I KNOW THERE WAS NO
GUARANTEE, BUT MY HEART WAS
BROKEN ALL OVER AGAIN AND I FELT
LIKE I HAD INDEED ABANDONED MY
SON. IT'S A HEARTBREAK THAT I
STILL STRUGGLE WITH TODAY. ON
THAT DAY, I SHOULD HAVE BEEN
BETTER INFORMED ON THE REAL
PURPOSE OF MY PRESENCE IN THE
POLICE STATION. I SHOULD HAVE
BEEN GIVEN THE OPTION TO SPEAK
WITH SOMEONE THAT COULD PROVIDE
COMFORT, COUNSELING, AND EVEN
ADVICE TO ME. AT MY WEAKEST
MOMENT AT THOSE FEW MOMENTS
WOULD COST POLICE DEPARTMENTS
LITTLE TO NOTHING. HOWEVER I WAS
PUT FORTH IN AB 3021 IS
PRICELESS TO EVERYONE THAT HAS
SUFFERED THE LOSS OF A LOVED ONE
IN AN OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING.
I REQUEST YOUR AYE VOTE. THANK
YOU FOR LISTENING. THANK YOU.
AND YOUR SECOND WITNESS. YOU MAY
BEGIN. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS ED
LITTLE, GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS
MANAGER WITH CALIFORNIANS FOR
SAFETY AND JUSTICE AND PROUD
CO-SPONSOR OF AB 3021 FAMILY
MEMBERS OF VICTIMS WHO ARE
SERIOUSLY INJURED OR KILLED BY
POLICE DESERVE INFORMATION AND
SUPPORT, NOT MANIPULATION,
COERCION. REGARDLESS OF WHO
CAUSED THE HARM. BUT IN
CALIFORNIA, MANY SURVIVORS WHOSE
FAMILY MEMBERS ARE INJURED OR
KILLED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT ARE
NOT GIVEN THAT BASIC DIGNITY.
THEY ARE INSTEAD TOO OFTEN
DENIED INFORMATION AND
MANIPULATED INTO SHARING
INFORMATION ABOUT THEIR LOVED
ONES PAST, WHILE WORRIED AND NOT
KNOWING IF THEIR FAMILY MEMBER
IS SAFE. THIS PRACTICE IS NO
ACCIDENT. AN LA TIMES
INVESTIGATION FOUND THAT LAW
ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS ACROSS
CALIFORNIA ARE TRAINED TO
WITHHOLD INFORMATION FROM
WORRIED FAMILY MEMBERS OF
VICTIMS IN ORDER TO EXTRACT
INFORMATION AND MAKE A CASE
AGAINST THE VICTIM WHO HAS BEEN
SERIOUSLY INJURED OR KILLED.
OFFICERS MAY GIVE FAMILY MEMBERS
THE IMPRESSION THAT THEIR LOVED
ONE HAS BEEN ARRESTED OR ACCUSED
OF A CRIME, AND FAMILY MEMBERS
MAY VOLUNTEER INFORMATION THAT
THEY THINK MAY HELP, NOT KNOWING
THAT THEIR LOVED ONE HAS
ACTUALLY BEEN KILLED. THESE
PRACTICES COMPOUND TRAUMA AND
FRACTURE TRUST. WHEN FAMILY
MEMBERS ARE FINALLY GIVEN THE
DEVASTATING NEWS, NO ONE SHOULD
HAVE TO BE TREATED IN THIS WAY.
IN THEIR MOMENTS OF DEEPEST PAIN
AND VULNERABILITY. AB 3021
PROVIDES BASIC PROTECTIONS FOR
FAMILY MEMBERS OF VICTIMS OF
POLICE VIOLENCE AND CLARIFY FOR
OFFICERS ON HOW TO ADVISE FAMILY
MEMBERS OF THEIR RIGHTS. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. ANY WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION? ANYONE ELSE IN THE
ROOM WISH TO EXPRESS SUPPORT?
PLEASE NAME ORGANIZATION IF YOU
ARE REPRESENTING ORGANIZATION
AND YOUR POSITION ON THE BILL,
YOU CAN STEP UP TO THE MIC RIGHT
UP HERE. HELLO, MY NAME IS
CORTEZ MORALES FROM SILICON
VALLEY. DEBUG, REPRESENTING THE
FAMILIES OF A.J. PHILLIPS,
ANTHONY GUZMAN. LOPEZ I'M HOPING
YOU SUPPORT THIS BILL. THANK YOU
. MY NAME IS JIM SHULMAN. DIANA
MARIE SCHULMAN WAS MY DAUGHTER
WHO WAS SHOT AND KILLED BY THE
SAN JOSE POLICE IN 2014. I
STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS BILL.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HI. MY
NAME IS TREMAINE HUNTER. SILICON
VALLEY DEBUG. AND ON BEHALF OF
THE FAMILIES OF RICHARD HARPO
MARQUEZ, DEMETRIUS MEECH,
STANLEY DAVID TOVAR JUNIOR I
STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS BILL.
THANK YOU. HI, MY NAME IS ROSIE
CHÁVEZ. SILICON VALLEY DEBUG.
ALSO AUNTIE OF JACOB DOMINGUEZ,
WHO WAS KILLED BY SAN JOSE PD.
2017. I STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS
BILL. THANK YOU. HI, MY NAME IS
JESSE AND MY SON IS ANTHONY
NUNEZ. HE WAS SHOT BY THE PD ON,
2016, 4TH OF JULY. AND WE
STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS BILL.
THANK YOU. HI. MY NAME IS SANDY
SANCHEZ. I'M THE MOTHER OF
ANTHONY NUNEZ. THIS HANDSOME
YOUNG MAN RIGHT HERE WHO WAS
KILLED ON 4TH OF JULY, 2016 BY
SAN JOSE POLICE OFFICERS. WE
STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS BILL.
THANK YOU. HI. MY NAME IS LIZ
GONZALEZ WITH SILICON VALLEY
DEBUG. AND ON BEHALF OF THE
FAMILIES OF RUDY CARDENAS, JENNY
VASQUEZ AND JENNY MONTES, WE
STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS BILL.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A
MOTION. SECOND AND A SECOND.
OKAY, WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE. ARE THERE ANY
QUESTIONS, MR. BRIAN I DON'T
HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. I JUST WANT
TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR COMING.
I'M INCREDIBLY SORRY FOR ALL OF
YOUR LOSSES. AND EVEN THOUGH
THIS ISN'T THE POLICY COMMITTEE,
IT'S THE FISCAL COMMITTEE. I'D
LOVE TO BE ADDED AS A COAUTHOR.
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER FOLKS HAVE
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? WOULD YOU
LIKE TO CLOSE MR. CHOLERA? I
ALSO APPRECIATE THE FAMILIES FOR
BEING HERE AND RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR AN AYE VOTE. THANK YOU. AND
I WANT TO ECHO THOSE SAME
SENTIMENTS. APPRECIATE YOU ALL
COMING UP HERE. AND OF COURSE,
MORE IMPORTANTLY, JUST APOLOGIES
AND SYMPATHIES FOR YOUR LOSS.
BUT, REALLY APPRECIATE YOU BEING
HERE. PART OF THE SYSTEM HERE,
AND WITH THAT, THIS BILL ENJOYS
A, IT'S Dð PASS, AND IT'S OUT
WITH A B ROLL CALL WITH MR.
PATTERSON NOT VOTING. THANK YOU.
AND WE ARE, I BELIEVE, MISS,
CALDERON IS GOING TO BE ON HER
WAY
.
AND IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO
EXPRESS SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION
FOR BILLS THAT WERE NOT
PRESENTED IN THE AUDIENCE, NOW
IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY, NAME,
ORGANIZATION AND POSITION.
PLEASE ETHAN NAGLER, ON BEHALF
OF THE CITY CLERK'S ASSOCIATION
OF CALIFORNIA IN SUPPORT OF AB
2249 AND AB 2582. THANK YOU,
THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING, CHAIR
AND MEMBERS. TIFFANY FAN, ON
BEHALF OF CALIFORNIA COURT
APPOINTED SPECIAL ADVOCATES
ASSOCIATION, OR CAL CASA, WANTED
TO REGISTER OUR SUPPORT FOR AB
2108 RAMOS. THANK YOU. MISS
ALBIANI, ON BEHALF OF EXCUSE ME,
CONSUMER BRANDS ASSOCIATION AND
AMERICAN BEVERAGE ASSOCIATION,
WE OPPOSE 2648. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. TALIA D'AMATO, ON BEHALF OF
THE TULE RIVER TRIBE IN SUPPORT
OF 2108. RAMOS. THANK YOU
.
IT'S OKAY. I'LL JUST. WE CAN ADD
YOU ON. MR. GRAYSON WOULD LIKE
TO VOTE ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
CONSENT CALENDAR. GRAYSON.
GRAYSON. AYE, AYE. THANK YOU,
THANK YOU
.
MISS CALDERON IS HERE, WOULD YOU
LIKE TO VOTE ON THE CONSENT
CALENDAR? CALENDAR ON A
CALENDAR? AND I. GREAT AND WE
ARE ADJOURNED