ALL RIGHT. WE ARE GOING TO START
THIS MEETING AS A SUBCOMMITTEE.
GOOD AFTERNOON, AND WELCOME TO,
THE ASSEMBLY COMMITTEE ON
REVENUE TAX. AS ALWAYS, PLEASE
MAKE SURE TO SUBMIT YOUR
POSITION LETTERS AT LEAST ONE
WEEK PRIOR TO THE COMMITTEE
HEARING IN ORDER FOR THEM TO BE
REFLECTED IN THE BILL ANALYSIS.
ADDITIONALLY, PURSUANT TO OUR,
COMMITTEE RULES BILLS WITH THE
FISCAL IMPACT OF PLUS OR
-150,000 WILL NOT BE ELIGIBLE
FOR A VOTE IMMEDIATELY AFTER
THEIR PRESENTATION. BILLS ON
SUSPENSE THAT ARE NOT TAX LEVIES
WILL BE TAKEN UP TODAY,
INCLUDING BILLS THAT ARE HEARD
AND MOVED TO, THAT ARE HEARD AND
MOVED TO SUSPENSE DURING THE
FIRST PORTION OF TODAY'S
HEARING. TAX LEVY BILLS WILL BE
TAKEN UP AT OUR NEXT HEARING ON
APRIL 29TH. WE WILL BEGIN
TODAY'S HEARING BY TAKING UP
BILLS UNDER THE REGULAR ORDER OF
BUSINESS BEFORE TAKING UP THE
SUSPENSE FILE, WITH THAT IN
MIND, THE FOLLOWING BILLS ON
TODAY'S AGENDA WILL BE ELIGIBLE
FOR A VOTE DURING THE REGULAR
ORDER OF BUSINESS. FILE ITEM
ONE. AB 3134 CHEN. FILE ITEM TWO
AB 2897 CONNOLLY FILE ITEM FIVE
AB 3268. LO AND FILE ITEM SIX AB
2769. ORTEGA FINALLY, ONE BIT
LAST BIT OF HOUSEKEEPING. THE
THREE BILLS BY THE REVENUE AND
TAXATION COMMITTEE ARE PROPOSED
CONSENT ITEMS. FILE ITEM NINE.
FILE ITEM TEN, FILE ITEM 11. AND
THAT'S AB 32, 87, 3288 AND 3289.
ALL RIGHT. WE ARE GOING TO START
WITH ASSEMBLY MEMBER CONNOLLY.
IF YOU HAVE EVERYBODY HERE. THIS
IS, FILE ITEM TWO AB 2897.
WHENEVER YOU'RE READY. THANK
YOU. CHAIR AND MEMBERS. GOOD
AFTERNOON. AB 2897 WILL UPDATE
THE STATUTORY LANGUAGE USED TO
DEFINE A COMMUNITY LAND TRUST,
OR CLT IN STATE LAW, TO REFLECT
THE FULL RANGE OF PURPOSES A
COMMUNITY LAND TRUST SERVES.
TODAY, AB 2897 ALSO ADDRESSES A
TECHNICAL CROSS REFERENCING
CORRECTION IN EXISTING LAW THAT
ALLOWS COMMUNITY LAND TRUSTS TO
MAINTAIN THE PROPERTY TAX
WELFARE EXEMPTION UNDER THE SAME
CIRCUMSTANCES AS LOW INCOME
HOUSING TAX CREDIT PROJECTS.
CLTS ARE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS
THAT STEWARD RESIDENTIAL
PROPERTY AS AFFORDABLE PERMANENT
HOUSING. ALTHOUGH THE COMMUNITY
LAND TRUST MODEL IS WELL KNOWN
FOR PROVIDING HOUSING, IT IS
INTENDED TO BE FLEXIBLE,
ALLOWING FOR COMMUNITY
CONTROLLED BUSINESSES, SERVICES,
OR OTHER KINDS OF ORGANIZED
NATIONAL ADAPTATION ADAPTATIONS.
DEPENDING ON COMMUNITY NEED.
HOWEVER, THE EXISTING STATUTORY
DEFINITION IS OVERLY NARROW AND
EXCLUDES SOME COMMUNITY LAND
TRUSTS WITH DIVERSE AND
NONRESIDENTIAL PRACTICES FROM
FALLING WITHIN THE CATEGORY. FOR
EXAMPLE, COMMUNITY LAND TRUSTS
THAT FACILITATE STEWARDSHIP OF A
COMMUNITY RESOURCE SUCH AS A
GARDEN, NONPROFIT OFFICE SPACE,
OR SMALL BUSINESS RETAIL MAY NOT
FALL UNDER THE CURRENT STATUTORY
DEFINITION ON COMMUNITY LAND
TRUST PROPERTIES RENTED Ã
TENANTS ARE OFTEN ELIGIBLE FOR
THE PROPERTY TAX, WELFARE
EXEMPTION, AND IN 2022, AB 1206
AUTHORIZED COMMUNITY LAND TRUSTS
TO KEEP THEIR WELFARE EXEMPTION
EVEN IF ONE OR MORE RESIDENTS
INCOME INCREASES. THIS GIVES
COMMUNITY LAND TRUSTS
FLEXIBILITY IN DETERMINING WHO
QUALIFIES AS LOW INCOME, SO
RESIDENTS CAN MAINTAIN THEIR
HOUSING SECURITY EVEN IF THEY
GET A PROMOTION OR RAISE. THIS
BILL HAS NO REGISTERED
OPPOSITION AND WAS ON CONSENT IN
ASSEMBLY HOUSING COMMITTEE. I
WILL NOW PASS IT TO MY WITNESS,
AMY HINES. SHEIKHA REPRESA,
NOTING THE BILL'S SPONSOR, THE
COMMUNITY LAND TRUST NETWORK.
WELCOME, AMY. THANK YOU.
HONORABLE CHAIR IRWIN AND
MEMBERS, MY NAME IS AMY
HINES-IKE AND I'M THE I'M
REPRESENTING THE CALIFORNIA
COMMUNITY LAND TRUST NETWORK,
WHICH HAS APPROXIMATELY 40
AFFILIATES IN ALL AREAS OF OUR
STATE FROM THE OREGON BORDER
DOWN TO SAN DIEGO, WITH
APPROXIMATELY 3500 RESIDENTS
LIVING IN CLT PROPERTIES. THE
FIRST COMMUNITY LAND TRUST GREW
OUT OF THE SOUTHERN CIVIL RIGHTS
MOVEMENT AS A TOOL FOR
ESTABLISHING A NEW FORM OF LAND
TENURE FOR BLACK FARMERS AND
THEIR FAMILIES. IT IS
UNFORTUNATE THAT WHILE THE
ORIGINAL CLTS INCLUDED FARMING
AND HOUSING ARE A CURRENT LEGAL
DEFINITION IN CALIFORNIA DOES
NOT INCLUDE ALL THE WAYS THAT
OUR AFFILIATES STEWARD LAND FOR
LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES. AB 2897
BY ASSEMBLY MEMBER CONNERLY
WOULD FIX THAT. AB 2897 IS NOT
TRYING TO BROADEN WHO IS
CONSIDERED A CLT OR BROADEN WHO
RECEIVES A TAX EXEMPTION. ALL
WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS MAKE THE
CLT DEFINITION MATCH WHAT'S
ALREADY HAPPENING ON THE GROUND.
CLTS OPERATE COMMUNITY GARDENS,
NONPROFIT SPACES AND OTHER
COMMUNITY OWNERSHIP PROJECTS
THAT BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY. IT
IS COMMON FOR CLT PRESERVATION
PROJECTS TO INVOLVE THE
ACQUISITION OF AN APARTMENT
BUILDING, AND THEN A MULTI YEAR
TRANSITION TO A CLT HOME
OWNERSHIP PROJECT. DURING THAT
TRANSITION. THESE BUILDINGS ARE
TYPICALLY SIMPLE RENTALS WITH NO
GROUND LEASE. WE ARE UPDATING
THE DEFINITION OF A CLT TO
ACCOMMODATE THIS COMMON
PRACTICE. AB 2897 IS FIXING THE
DEFINITION OF A CLT TO DESCRIBE
THE WORK CLTS ARE DOING, AND WE
THANK ASSEMBLY MEMBER CONNERLY
FOR HIS LEADERSHIP IN THIS
ISSUE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. DO
WE HAVE ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT? WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION, QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS FROM THE COMMITTEE? ALL
RIGHT. SO WE SEE THAT YOU,
REINSERTED THE REQUIREMENT THAT
A LOCAL OFFICIAL MUST FIND THE
AFFORDABLE AFFORDABILITY
RESTRICTIONS FOR CLT HOUSING,
THAT THEY'RE IN THE PUBLIC'S
INTEREST. YOU INTEND TO RETAIN
THAT REQUIREMENT? YES. OKAY. ALL
RIGHT. AND ASSEMBLY MEMBER
CONLEY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE?
WELL, APPRECIATE YOUR
CONSIDERATION AND RESPECTFULLY
ASK FOR AN AYE VOTE. ALL RIGHT.
WE'RE FIRST GOING TO DO ROLL
CALL FOR A QUORUM. ERWIN HERE TO
HEAR BAINES GIBSON GRAYSON HERE.
PATTERSON. RIVAS HERE. YES. WE
HAVE OKAY. WE HAVE A QUORUM.
AND, DO I HAVE A MOTION AND A
SECOND? ALL RIGHT. A MOTION BY
ASSEMBLY MEMBER GRAYSON. A
SECOND BY SECOND ASSEMBLY MEMBER
RIVAS. AND THE MOTION IS DUE
PASSED TO THE APPROPRIATIONS
COMMITTEE. MISS HIGHLAND, PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL ITEM NUMBER TWO,
AB 2897. THE MOTION IS TO PASS
TO APPROPRIATIONS. IRWIN. IRWIN,
I TO I BAINES GIBSON. GRAYSON.
GRAYSON. I. PATTERSON RIVAS I
RIVAS I THAT BILL IS PASSED FOUR
ZERO. ALL RIGHT. AND THAT
MEASURE IS OUT FOUR ZERO.
CONGRATULATIONS, YOU HAVE YOUR
WITNESSES, MR. WARD. ALL RIGHT
.
AND THAT IS ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.
WE'LL START WITH ITEM SEVEN, IF
THAT'S OKAY. OH, I'M SORRY, ITEM
NUMBER SEVEN, AB 1932. YES.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. MEMBERS,
THIS IS ASSEMBLY BILL 1932. I
APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
PRESENT THIS BILL HERE FOR YOU
TODAY. I THINK, AS YOU ALL KNOW,
WE ARE GRAPPLING WITH A VERY
DIFFICULT BUDGET SITUATION. AND
IN THE HOUSING SPACE, MORE THAN
$1.2 BILLION ON THE TABLE
PROPOSED FOR REDUCTION. AND AT
THE SAME TIME, WE'VE SEEN AN
INCREASE OF THE NUMBER OF
CALIFORNIANS EXPERIENCING
HOMELESSNESS. NOW, MORE THAN
181,000 ON A GIVEN NIGHT WITHOUT
A SAFE AND STABLE PLACE TO CALL
HOME. AND SO THAT REALLY
JUXTAPOSITION IS A VERY
DIFFICULT POSITION FOR ALL OF US
THAT WE'RE PULLING BACK FROM
VERY MUCH AND DESPERATELY NEEDED
AFFORDABLE HOUSING DOLLARS AT
THE SAME TIME THAT WE HAVE THE
ENTIRETY OF THE BUDGET THAT WE
ARE LOOKING LOOKING AT IN THE
SAME CONTEXT, AND WHAT THAT
ALLOWED ME TO DO IS REALLY STEP
BACK AND TRY TO THINK A LITTLE
BIT MORE BROADLY ABOUT OUR TAX
AND OUR FISCAL POLICIES, AS THE
MORTGAGE INTEREST DEDUCTION IS A
MASSIVE, PERMANENT TAX BENEFIT
WE OFFER TO EXISTING HOMEOWNERS
EVERY YEAR, WITHOUT QUESTION. IN
FACT, IT'S THE LARGEST PERMANENT
HOUSING EXPENDITURE IN OUR
BUDGET EACH YEAR. LET ME SAY
THAT AGAIN. IT IN AND OF ITSELF
IS THE LARGEST EXPENDITURE THAT
WE GIVE FOR HOUSING SUPPORT IN
THE FORM OF $3.5 BILLION OF
STATE TAX DEFERRED. THAT IS
GOING TO HOMEOWNERS. AS A
REMINDER, OUR PRINCIPAL
HOMELESSNESS PROGRAM, THE HAT
PROGRAM, WHICH WE ASK OUR LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS TO USE TO END
HOMELESSNESS, HAS NEVER RECEIVED
MORE THAN $1 BILLION A YEAR.
IT'S JUST A FACT. FOR CONTEXT
ABOUT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
HERE. WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THE
HOUSING EXPENDITURES THAT WE DO
APPROPRIATE EVERY YEAR, THAT WE
ADOPT, THERE ARE SERIOUS EQUITY
IMPLICATIONS TO THIS. THE
COMMITTEE ANALYSIS NOTED FILERS
WHO DO NOT ITEMIZE, WHO ARE
GENERALLY LOWER AND MIDDLE
INCOME, DO NOT RECEIVE ANY OF
THESE BENEFITS. NOW NOT
PROPOSING TO TOUCH THE MID FOR
PRIMARY HOMES. HOWEVER THERE ARE
A NUMBER OF TAXPAYERS WHO ALSO
GET TO DEDUCT MORTGAGE INTEREST
ON THEIR SECOND OR THEIR
VACATION HOMES, AS WELL AS THEIR
PRIMARY HOMES FOR MORTGAGES UP
TO A CUMULATIVE TOTAL OF $1
MILLION. AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO
NOTE THAT THESE ARE ADDITIONAL
RESIDENCES, NOT PERMANENT RENTAL
UNITS. THIS IS AN INEFFICIENT
TAX EXPENDITURE THAT COSTS THE
GENERAL FUND NEARLY $200 MILLION
EVERY YEAR, ACCORDING TO THE FTB
TAX FILERS. THAT TAKES THIS
DEDUCTION FOR A SECOND HOME.
RECEIVE ROUGHLY $1,100 IN TAX
BENEFIT. MEANWHILE THE
NONREFUNDABLE RENTERS TAX CREDIT
HAS BEEN FROZEN AT $60 FOR
SINGLE FILERS FOR OVER DECADES,
OR ABOUT 1/18 OF THE BENEFIT
AFFORDED TO SECOND HOME FILERS.
THIS IS DEEPLY INEQUITABLE, AND
AT A TIME WHEN OVER TWO THIRDS
OF LOWER INCOME CALIFORNIANS ARE
SPENDING HALF THEIR INCOME OR
MORE ON HOUSING, IT'S EXTREMELY
TROUBLING. SO WITH THIS BILL, AB
1932, I'M PROPOSING THAT THE
STATE ELIMINATE THIS WASTEFUL
EXPENDITURE AND STOP SUBSIDIZING
SOME CALIFORNIANS AND PURCHASING
SECOND HOMES AND INSTEAD
PERMANENTLY INCREASE HOME
OWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES FOR
FIRST TIME HOME BUYERS,
ESPECIALLY DESPERATELY NEEDED
AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR OUR
EXTREMELY LOW INCOME
CONSTITUENTS, AND HELP OUR
HOUSING VOUCHER RECIPIENTS FIND
APARTMENTS EASIER. WITH ME TO
TESTIFY AS CHRIS MARTIN, THE
POLICY DIRECTOR FOR HOUSING
CALIFORNIA. GOOD AFTERNOON,
MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS. MY NAME
IS CHRIS MARTIN, THE POLICY
DIRECTOR AT HOUSING CALIFORNIA
VÀ. WE ARE A STATEWIDE ADVOCACY
NONPROFIT FOCUSED ON THE
PRODUCTION AND PRESERVATION OF
AFFORDABLE HOUSING, PROTECTING
LOW INCOME RENTERS, AND ENDING
HOMELESSNESS. HOUSING CALIFORNIA
IS PROUD TO SUPPORT AB 1932,
WHICH WOULD REMOVE THE SECOND
HOME MORTGAGE INTEREST DEDUCTION
AND TARGET THESE CRITICAL
RESOURCES IN INVESTMENTS IN
HOUSING PRODUCTION, HOME
OWNERSHIP AND TOOLS TO HELP
UTILIZE FEDERAL HOUSING VOUCHERS
. DESPITE NEARLY TRIPLING OUR
PRODUCTION OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING
IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS, THANKS
TO CRITICAL STREAMLINING LAWS
AND UNPRECEDENT ONE TIME STATE
INVESTMENTS, WE STILL ONLY FUND
ABOUT 20% OF WHAT IS ACTUALLY
NEEDED TO MEET OUR GOALS. ON TOP
OF THIS, RIGHT NOW, AS THE
ASSEMBLY MEMBER MENTIONED, WE
ARE SEEING BOTH FUNDS DRY UP
FROM OUR PROPOSITION ONE BOND
FROM 2018, AS WELL AS, WE'RE
FACING A HUGE BUDGET SHORTFALL,
AND THE GOVERNOR IS PROPOSING
CUTTING ALL INVESTMENT IN STATE
AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THIS WOULD
LEAD TO A LOSS OF ABOUT 6000
UNITS OVER THE NEXT TWO YEARS.
AT A TIME WHEN WE KNOW THE
BIGGEST BARRIER TO AFFORDABLE
HOUSING PRODUCTION IS FINANCE.
FOR BOTH ROUNDS OF THE LAST TWO
SUPERNOVAS FROM OUR STATE
HOUSING DEPARTMENT, THE PROGRAM
WAS OVERSUBSCRIBED 10 TO 1, BOTH
TIMES. ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE NEW
RESEARCH ON THE AFFORDABLE
HOUSING PIPELINE FROM ENTERPRISE
COMMUNITY PARTNERS THAT POINTED
TO ABOUT 46,000 UNITS OF
AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT ARE
SIMPLY AWAITING FUNDING. THIS
ALL POINTS TO EXACTLY WHY WE
NEED AN ONGOING SOURCE TO
INCREASE HOUSING PRODUCTION. WE
CANNOT RELY ON THE VOLATILE
STATE BUDGET TO FUND HOUSING IN
ONE TIME SPURTS. WE'RE FACING AN
ONGOING CRISIS THAT REQUIRES
ONGOING RESOURCES. AB 1932
PRESENTS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US
TO CREATE A REASONABLE, ONGOING
FUNDING SOURCE. OUR STATE TAX
SYSTEM SHOULD REFLECT OUR
VALUES, AND IN A STATE WITH OVER
180,000 PEOPLE EXPERIENCING
HOMELESSNESS AND A SHORTAGE OF
OVER 1.2 MILLION HOMES, WE
SHOULD BE PRIORITIZING
INVESTMENTS IN GETTING PEOPLE
INTO THEIR FIRST HOME BEFORE
SUBSIDIZING PEOPLE TO PURCHASE
THEIR SECOND HOME HOUSING
CALIFORNIA APPLAUDS ASSEMBLY
MEMBER WARD FOR HIS VISION, AND
WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR AYE
VOTE. ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE ANY
OTHER SPEAKERS IN SUPPORT? YES.
MARK STIVERS WITH THE CALIFORNIA
HOUSING PARTNERSHIP AND STRONG
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. REBECCA
MARCUS, REPRESENTING LEADING AGE
CALIFORNIA IN SUPPORT. DO WE
HAVE ANY WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION
? NO WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION. DO
WE HAVE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS
FROM THE COMMITTEE?
ASSEMBLYMEMBER GRAYSON, THANK
YOU, MADAM CHAIR. AND IN HOUSING
, I KNOW THIS BILL WENT THROUGH
THERE. I WAS ABLE TO, TO HELP
AND AS FAR AS MAKING A MOTION TO
GET OUT. BUT THEN I WAS CALLED
AWAY TO GO VOTE. I DIDN'T GET TO
ENGAGE IN A CONVERSATION, BUT TO
ME, THE REASON WHY I WAS
SUPPORTIVE OF IT GETTING OUT OF,
POLICY COMMITTEE WAS BECAUSE
THIS IS A VERY WORTHY
CONVERSATION THAT I BELIEVE
NEEDS TO HAVE, ALL PARTIES AT
THE TABLE, TO CONTRIBUTE. AND
SOMETIMES THE ONLY WAY TO MAKE
THAT HAPPEN IS A LEVERAGE OF A
BILL. AND SO WITH THAT, THAT'S
WHY TODAY I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE
AS WELL, TO BE ABLE TO MOVE THIS
BILL FORWARD, TO CONTINUE TO
HAVE THOSE KIND OF
CONVERSATIONS, ALTHOUGH THERE
SEEMS THERE THERE APPEARS TO BE
CONTINUED QUESTIONS LOOMING
ABOUT, EARMARKING FUNDS. HOW HOW
DO WE KNOW THAT THE MONEY THAT
IS SAVED FROM THIS OR INCREASES
BECAUSE OF THIS ACTUALLY GOES
TO, HOUSING RATHER THAN JUST
INTO A GENERAL FUND POT AND GETS
LOST IN THERE. SO, THERE'S A LOT
OF QUESTIONS THAT NEED TO BE
ANSWERED, BUT AGAIN, I BELIEVE
THIS BILL IS THE IS THE TOOL TO
FACILITATE THE CONVERSATIONS
THAT NEED TO HAPPEN TO AT LEAST
GIVE US SOME CERTAINTY AND
DIRECTION OF WHICH WAY TO GO. SO
THANK YOU TO THE AUTHOR. AND,
I'LL MAKE A MOTION, THIS IS
GOING TO BE ON ON SUSPENSE. OKAY
THANK YOU. SO I, YOU KNOW, JUST
JUST TO FOLLOW UP, CAN YOU NAME
AGAIN WHERE, THE FUNDS ARE
GOING? YES. THANK YOU, AS
PROPOSED TODAY, AND AGAIN, I
APPRECIATE, SOME MEMBER OF YOUR
COMMENTS AS WELL, BECAUSE THIS
DOES CONTINUE TO STOKE MORE
CONVERSATION, HAVING HAD A
CHANCE BEFORE THIS WAS EVEN
INTRODUCED TO MEET WITH SOME OF
THE REGISTERED OPPOSITION ON
FILE HERE. AND I KNOW THEY
HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO TAKE
SOME OF THESE PROPOSITIONS BACK
TO THEIR BOARD, WHO HAS NOT HAD
A CHANCE YET TO MEET YET? I DO
INTEND TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON
ANY OF THEIR CONCERNS. I DON'T
BELIEVE, AS PROPOSED, THAT THIS
IS GOING TO SOMEHOW
DISINCENTIVIZE THE OPPORTUNITY
FOR ADDITIONAL PURCHASES OR,
THE, THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE
TO ACQUIRE A NEW PROPERTY, TO BE
ABLE TO GROW FAMILY, EQUITY OR
WEALTH. THIS IS REALLY I THINK,
A CONSCIENTIOUS EFFORT AS ON ITS
FACE, TO BE ABLE TO SHIFT
WHETHER OR NOT WE ARE GOING TO
SUBSIDIZE VACATION HOMES OR
SUBSIDIZE THE NEED FOR FIRST
TIME HOME OWNERSHIP TO ANSWER
YOUR QUESTION, MADAM CHAIR, 50%
OF THE FORMULA GOES TO THE
MULTIFAMILY HOUSING PROGRAM, 25%
OF THE FORMULA WOULD GO TO
SUPPORT HOME OWNERSHIP
OPPORTUNITIES, AND 25% WOULD GO
TOWARDS LOCAL PUBLIC HOUSING
AUTHORITIES, FOR HOUSING,
NAVIGATION SERVICES AND LANDLORD
INCENTIVES FOR HOUSING VOUCHER
RECIPIENTS. AND THAT'S AS OF
TODAY. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN,
THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF
UNANSWERED QUESTIONS. I WOULD
ALSO ASK IF PEOPLE HAVE A SECOND
HOME BECAUSE THEY WORK ELSEWHERE
IN THE STATE. HOW WOULD YOU BE
HANDLING THAT? THAT'S CERTAINLY
NOT A VACATION HOME. THAT OF
COURSE, YOU KNOW, THAT IS
SOMETHING THAT IS A NECESSARY
COURSE OF BUSINESS. AND IT'S
SOMETHING I WANT TO LOOK AT A
LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO MAKE SURE
THAT WE'RE NOT CREATING
UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES FOR
PEOPLE JUST TO BE ABLE TO DO
THEIR JOBS. ALL RIGHT. AND NO
OTHER QUESTIONS. MAY I, MADAM
CHAIR, AND IN THE TESTIMONY WE
KEPT HEARING EXCHANGES OF, OF
SECOND HOME, AND THEN VACATION
HOME. THERE'S SOME PEOPLE THAT
HAVE A SECOND HOME THAT MAY NOT
BE A VACATION HOME. ARE WE
DIFFERENTIATING BETWEEN THAT?
THERE IN THE IN THE IN THE CODE?
THERE IS NO DIFFERENTIATION. IN
FACT, FOR TAX PURPOSES IT'S JUST
PRIMARY HOME OR SECOND HOMES. SO
I THINK WE'RE USING VACATION
HOME AS JUST SOMETHING THAT IS
AN EXAMPLE OF, MAYBE SOMETHING
WE COMMONLY ARE FAMILIAR OF TO
SORT OF PAINT A PICTURE. OKAY I
JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
WEREN'T, ELIMINATING THE ABILITY
FOR MORTGAGE INTEREST DEDUCTION
FOR THOSE THAT ARE HAVE A SECOND
HOME THAT'S RENTING, THAT IS,
THAT IS EXCLUDED. YES. ANYTHING
THAT IS PUT OUT FOR LEASE, OF
COURSE, BECAUSE OTHERWISE IT
WOULD BE PASSED ON TO THE RENTER
AND THAT WOULD BE A BURDEN AS
WELL. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL
RIGHT, ASSEMBLY MEMBER WOULD YOU
LIKE TO CLOSE? THANK YOU. THANK
YOU FOR THE CONSIDERATION. I
UNDERSTAND THIS IS A SUSPENSE
CANDIDATE, MADAM CHAIR. AND I
APPRECIATE THE CONSIDERATION AS
WELL. TODAY, THIS IS JUST PURELY
AN OPPORTUNITY, LIKE I SAID, TO
BE ABLE TO SORT OF LOOK AT THE
TOTALITY OF WHAT WE ARE THINKING
ABOUT WITH REGARD TO BOTH OUR
TAX AND BUDGET POLICIES AND
RECOGNIZING THAT YOU CAN
SUBSIDIZE ONE, YOU CAN SUBSIDIZE
THE OTHER. BUT THIS YEAR WE
CAN'T SUBSIDIZE BOTH, AND WE
HAVE TO MAKE A CALL. AND THAT'S
WHAT WE ARE DOING THROUGH THIS.
BILL WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST
YOUR AYE VOTE. ALL RIGHT. THANK
YOU VERY MUCH. AND WITHOUT
OBJECTION, THIS BILL WILL BE
MOVED TO OUR SUSPENSE FILE. OUR
NEXT, ITEM UP IS ITEM EIGHT, AB
2353. WHENEVER YOU'RE READY.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. MEMBERS
AGAIN. AB 2353 IS BEFORE YOU,
AND I WANT TO THANK THE
COMMITTEE STAFF AS WELL FOR YOUR
HARD WORK ON THIS. AND OF
COURSE, I WOULD BE, HAPPY TO
ACCEPT THE COMMITTEE'S
AMENDMENTS, THIS BILL WOULD
ENSURE THAT NONPROFIT,
AFFORDABLE RENTAL RENTAL HOUSING
DEVELOPERS CAN ACCESS THE
EXISTING WELFARE PROPERTY TAX
EXEMPTION WITHOUT FLOATING
UNNECESSARY TAX PAYMENTS WHILE
THEIR APPLICATION IS UNDER
REVIEW. CURRENTLY, AFFORDABLE
RENTAL HOUSING DEVELOPERS MUST
PAY PROPERTY TAXES UP FRONT AND
THEN SEEK REIMBURSEMENT BOTH
AFTER BOTH THE BOARD OF
EQUALIZATION AND THE COUNTY
ASSESSOR HAVE APPROVED THE
DEVELOPMENT'S EXEMPTION. THUS,
AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPERS
LOSE CRUCIAL AND EXTREMELY
LIMITED AFFORDABLE HOUSING
DOLLARS AND INCURRING INTEREST
FURTHER IN, INCREASED SOME OF
THE DEVELOPMENT COSTS. THIS BILL
WOULD REDUCE THE COST OF
DEVELOPING AFFORDABLE HOUSING BY
ALLOWING NONPROFIT AFFORDABLE
HOUSING DEVELOPERS TO WITHHOLD
RELEVANT TAX PAYMENTS WITHOUT
PENALTY, WHILE THEIR WELFARE
EXEMPTION APPLICATIONS ARE UNDER
REVIEW. IF THE PROPERTY IS DEED
RESTRICTED AND THE DEVELOPER HAS
RECEIVED A CLEARANCE CERTIFICATE
FROM THE BOE FOR WITNESSES AND
SUPPORT, I HAVE MARK STIVERS,
THE DIRECTOR OF ADVOCACY WITH
THE CALIFORNIA HOUSING
PARTNERSHIP. THANK YOU. GOOD.
GOOD AFTERNOON AGAIN. MARK
STIVERS WITH THE CALIFORNIA
HOUSING PARTNERSHIP. SOME BILLS,
LIKE THE ASSEMBLYMAN'S PREVIOUS
BILLS, SEEK TO RAISE REVENUES
FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. WITH
THIS BILL, WE'RE TRYING TO
REDUCE COSTS SO WE CAN STRETCH
WHATEVER LIMITED RESOURCES WE
HAVE FURTHER AND BUILD MORE
AFFORDABLE HOMES. THE PROCESS TO
GET A WELFARE EXEMPTION FOR
AFFORDABLE HOUSING TAKES, ON
AVERAGE, ABOUT TWO YEARS,
SOMETIMES MORE. AS THE
ASSEMBLYMAN SAID, THE DEVELOPERS
FLOAT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF
DOLLARS PER DEVELOPMENT FOR THAT
TWO YEAR PERIOD, ONLY TO GET
THEM REIMBURSED WHEN THE
APPLICATIONS INVARIABLY ARE
APPROVED BY OUR CALCULATION.
THIS THIS BILL WOULD FREE UP AS
MUCH AS $64 MILLION OVER ANY
GIVEN TWO YEAR PERIOD THAT
NONPROFIT DEVELOPERS COULD THEN
REINVEST IN PRODUCING MORE
AFFORDABLE HOUSING. SO WE THINK
THIS IS A VERY GOOD BILL TO CUT
COSTS AND MAY BE MORE EFFICIENT
WITH OUR RESOURCES. AND WE URGE
YOUR CONSIDERATION ON SUSPENSE.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ARE THERE
ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT?
CHRIS MARTIN WITH HOUSING
CALIFORNIA IN SUPPORT. REBECCA
MARCUS LEADINGAGE, CALIFORNIA IN
SUPPORT. ALL RIGHT. ANY
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION? THÀNH.
ANY QUESTIONS OF THE COMMITTEE
WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE? THANK
YOU. RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR
AYE. VOTE ALL RIGHT. AND,
WITHOUT OBJECTION, THIS WILL BE
REFERRED TO OUR SUSPENSE FILE.
ASSEMBLY MEMBER. THANK YOU.
ASSEMBLY MEMBER GRAYSON IS YOUR
WITNESS HERE? YES. ALL RIGHT.
WHY DON'T YOU. WE'LL WE'LL MOVE
TO ITEM. FOUR AB 2686.
WHENEVER YOU'RE READY. THANK
YOU. SO MUCH. GOOD AFTERNOON,
MADAM CHAIR. MEMBERS AB 2686 IS
A NECESSARY BILL THAT WOULD HELP
PREVENT SIGNIFICANT COST
INCREASES FOR HOUSING DEVELOPERS
WHO REMEDIATE CONTAMINATED SOIL
AND RETURN LAND TO PRODUCTIVE
USE. IN 2021, THE LEGISLATURE
PASSED SB 158, A BUDGET TRAILER
BILL WITH THE INTENT OF
STABILIZING THE STRUCTURAL
DEFICIT OF THE DEPARTMENT OF
TOXIC SUBSTANCE CONTROL, OR DTSC
AS WE KNOW IT. IN ORDER TO
ACHIEVE THIS, SB 158 MADE
CHANGES TO ONE OF THE MAJOR FEES
THAT ARE PAID TO DTSC WHEN
REMEDIATING A SITE. PREVIOUSLY A
TIERED MODEL, THE GENERATION AND
HANDLING FEE WAS INSTEAD SET AT
A RATE OF $49.25 PER TON. THIS
FEE IS PAID TO DTSC FOR THE
PURPOSE OF MONITORING AND
CERTIFYING A SITE. AS THE
DEVELOPER IS CONDUCTING AND
PAYING FOR THE REMEDIATION WORK,
THE NEW FEE STRUCTURE APPLIED TO
ALL PROJECTS THAT WERE IN
DEVELOPMENT AT THE TIME OF
PASSAGE OF SB 158, AS WELL AS
PROJECTS THAT RECENTLY COMPLETED
THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. THE
REVISED FEE STRUCTURE HAD A
SIGNIFICANT DETRIMENTAL IMPACT
ON MANY PROJECTS, INCLUDING
ESSENTIAL HOUSING PROJECTS AND
PROJECTS THAT HELP PROVIDE
ESSENTIAL COMMUNITY SERVICES.
THIS FEE SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASED
THE COST OF REMEDIATING
CONTAMINATED SOIL AND URBAN
INFILL SITES, OR IN SITUATIONS
WHERE DEVELOPERS ENCOUNTERED
NATURALLY OCCURRING TOXIC
MATERIALS. THE INCREASED FEE HAS
MADE SEVERAL PROJECTS
INFEASIBLE. AT A TIME WHERE
CALIFORNIA IS ALREADY STRUGGLING
WITH RISING COSTS. SO TO HELP
PROVIDE GREATER CERTAINTY FOR
AFFECTED PROJECTS, AB 2686 WOULD
PROVIDE AN ALTERNATIVE FEE FOR
HOUSING AND NONPROFIT
DEVELOPMENTS THAT WERE DEEMED
COMPLETE BY DECEMBER 31ST, 2021.
THIS ALTERNATIVE FEE WOULD BE
SET AT $5.72 PER TON OF
HAZARDOUS WASTE, MIRRORING A
SIMILAR FEE THAT WAS SET IN A
SUBSEQUENT BUDGET TRAILER BILL
LAST YEAR. THE STATE SHOULD NOT
PENALIZE BUILDERS FOR OPENING UP
LAND FOR PRODUCTIVE USE,
ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY ARE THE
ONES CLEANING UP POLLUTION.
INSTEAD OF CREATING IT AT A TIME
WHERE MANY IN CALIFORNIA ARE
FACING INCREASED DEVELOPMENT
COSTS, WE MUST DO WHAT WE CAN TO
HELP CREATE A MORE FAVORABLE
ENVIRONMENT THAT ALLOWS US TO
BUILD HOUSING THAT'S AFFORDABLE,
WHERE, WHILE I AM VERY AWARE AND
HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO KEEP DTSC
FISCALLY STABLE, IT IS EQUALLY
IMPORTANT THAT WE DO NOT DO IT
SOLELY ON THE BACKS OF THOSE WHO
CREATE ESSENTIAL HOUSING AND
PROVIDE VITAL COMMUNITY SERVICES
. WITH ME TODAY, MY WITNESS,
I'LL HAVE, SELF INTRODUCE, WILL
BE TESTIFYING. GOOD AFTERNOON.
HONORABLE COMMITTEE MEMBERS. MY
NAME IS RHIANNON BALLARD, AND
I'M THE COO OF UC LAW SAN
FRANCISCO, FORMERLY UC HASTINGS
LAW, WHICH IS A PUBLIC
INSTITUTION. OVER 50% OF OUR
STUDENTS IDENTIFY AS PEOPLE OF
COLOR. 80% OF OUR STUDENTS
RECEIVE EITHER MERIT BASED OR
NEED BASED AID. AND IN AUGUST OF
2023, WE OPENED A HOUSING
PROJECT THAT PROVIDED 656 BELOW
MARKET HOUSING UNITS, WHICH
PROVIDES HOUSING FOR OUR OWN
STUDENTS AS WELL AS STUDENTS
FROM UC SAN FRANCISCO, SAN
FRANCISCO STATE UNIVERSITY, AND
UC BERKELEY, UC DAVIS, MANY
OTHERS. ESSENTIALLY, WE HAVE
PROVIDED A HOUSING COMPLEX AND A
SHARED CAMPUS IN THE HEART OF
SAN FRANCISCO. RELEVANT HERE
TODAY. WE GENERATED DURING OUR
SITE PREPARATION 2400 TONS OF
HAZARDOUS WASTE IN 2021. WE PAID
A FEE OF $105,000 FOR THAT
WASTE. IN 2021. IN 2022, WE
PROTESTED WHAT WE FIRST THOUGHT
WAS A DUPLICATIVE BILLING, A
BILLING ERROR. ULTIMATELY, WE
ENDED UP PAYING AN ADDITIONAL
$118,000, PLUS AN ADDITIONAL
$22,000 IN FINES AND INTEREST
DURING THE TIME AT WHICH WE WERE
PROTESTING AGAIN, WHICH WE
THOUGHT WAS A DUPLICATIVE BILL.
THE NEW FEE PASSED JUST MERE
WEEKS BEFORE WE HAD CEASED BEING
A GENERATOR, WHICH HAPPENED IN
AUGUST OF 2021. AND WHILE THE
PROJECT WAS PRIVATELY FINANCED,
MOST OF OUR STUDENT BODY, AS I
MENTIONED, RECEIVES AID AND
EVERY RESIDENT PAYS RENT, OF
COURSE. AND SO SOME OF THESE
COSTS ARE BORNE BY TAXPAYER
DOLLARS. WE APPRECIATE, AS
ASSEMBLY MEMBER GRAYSON SAID,
THE VITAL ROLE THE DTSC PLAYS
AND WE UNDERSTAND THE CHALLENGES
THE STATE IS PLAYING. HOWEVER,
THE IMPOSITION OF A DUPLICATIVE
FEE ON A PUBLIC INSTITUTION,
WHILE WE WERE TRYING TO BUILD
HOUSING FOR NOT ONLY OUR OWN
STUDENTS, BUT ALSO STUDENTS FROM
OTHER INSTITUTIONS IN THE VERY
REAL AND EXPENSIVE MARKET OF SAN
FRANCISCO, FEELS LIKE AN
UNREASONABLE BURDEN. THANK YOU
FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. THANK
YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT? WE DID
HAVE A WITNESS THAT WAS WITH THE
SAN FRANCISCO AND MARIN FOOD
BANK, BUT I BELIEVE OH GO AHEAD.
YES, HE HE GOT CAUGHT IN
TRAFFIC. SO I'M SO SORRY ABOUT
THAT, BUT I'M CATHERINE CHARLES.
I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF HOUSING
ACTION COALITION AS A SPONSOR IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU,
TIFFANY PHªN, ON BEHALF OF
STRADA INVESTMENT GROUP IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. AND LAURA
LANE ON BEHALF OF THE SAN
FRANCISCO MARIN FOOD BANK, WHOSE
WITNESS IS A GOING THROUGH
SECURITY RIGHT NOW. SO
APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT. IT'S
IMPORTANT WE'LL COUNT THAT
WITNESS TO, DO WE HAVE ANY
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION? OKAY.
DO WE HAVE QUESTIONS FROM THE
COMMITTEE? ASSEMBLY MEMBER,
WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE? I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN AYE VOTE
WHEN THE TIME IS APPROPRIATE.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AND WITHOUT OBJECTION, THIS BILL
WILL BE BE MOVED TO SUSPENSE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
MR. ORTEGA'S. SHE'S WHAT
?
WE CAN DO CONSENT. I MEAN, WE'D
HAVE TO DO ADD ONS AFTER THAT,
BUT. OKAY.
OH, YEAH. THAT'S. YEAH. THAT'S
OKAY. WHY DON'T WE TAKE UP THE
PROPOSED CONSENT CALENDAR? YES,
THREE ITEMS ARE PROPOSED FOR
CONSENT. AB 3287, AB 3288 AND AB
3289. SO MOVED SECOND. OKAY,
THAT BILL HAS THE CONSENT
CALENDAR HAS BEEN ALL WE HAVE TO
MOVE ANNOUNCE. ALL RIGHT, LET'S.
ALL RIGHT. FOR AB 3287, THE
MOTION IS DUE. PASS TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS FOR
AB 3288 AND 3289. THE MOTION IS
DUE. PASS TO THE FLOOR AND WE
HAVE A MOTION BY ASSEMBLY MEMBER
TO AND A SECOND BY ASSEMBLY
MEMBER GRAYSON. MISS HYLAND,
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. ERWIN HI,
ERWIN. AYE. ON CONSENT. TA TA.
AYE. BEANS GIBSON. GRAYSON.
GRAYSON AYE. JIM. PATTERSON.
THREE OF US. I'M GOING TO FOR
THE CONSENT. OKAY. AND THAT
PASSES FOUR ZERO. ASSEMBLY
MEMBER TOM JUST GOING TO PASS
THIS TO YOU FOR ONE MOMENT. ALL
RIGHT.
WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE HERE. MISS
ORTEGA IS ON HER WAY
.
THE A GENTLEMAN. LOW, PLEASE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS, FOR
ALLOWING ME TO PRESENT ASSEMBLY
BILL 3268 TO HELP EXTEND THE
SUNSET RELIEF FOR PROPERTY TAXES
FOR ELIGIBLE INTEREST FROM 2025
TO 2030. AND I RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR AYE VOTE WITH ME TODAY TO
ANSWER ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS
THAT YOU MAY HAVE. AS JEFF
NYGAARD WITH THE COUNTY OF
ALAMEDA ASSESSOR'S OFFICE
RESPECTFULLY ASKED FOR OUR VOTE.
PLEASE. YES GOOD AFTERNOON. MY
NAME IS JEFF NYGAARD. I'M WITH
THE ALAMEDA COUNTY ASSESSOR'S
OFFICE. I'M THE CHIEF OF THE
APPRAISAL DIVISION, AND I'M HERE
IN SUPPORT OF AB 30 268. AND I'M
SPECIFICALLY I'M HERE FOR
QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. MOVE THE
BILL. SECOND. ALL RIGHT. DO WE
HAVE. HELLO, MR. HELLO, MR.
MARIN ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE HAVE
WE ASKED FOR A WITNESSES IN
SUPPORT? OKAY. WITNESSES AND
SUPPORT WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION.
OKAY. THEN WE HAD A MOTION BY
ASSEMBLYMAN Ó. QUESTIONS OR
COMMENTS? WE HAD A MOTION BY
ASSEMBLY MEMBER GRAYSON AND A
SECOND BY ASSEMBLY MEMBER GIBSON
. AND, MR. LOWE WOULD YOU LIKE
TO. NO, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.
AND THAT MOTION IS DUE. PASS TO
THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE.
MISS HIGHLAND, PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE, AB
3268. THE MOTION IS TO PASS TO
APPROPRIATIONS. IRWIN I IRWIN I
TO I BEANS GIBSON. GIBSON I
GRAYSON. I REASON I JIM
PATTERSON THREE OF US THREE OF
US I THAT PASSES 5 TO 0 AND THAT
BILL IS OUT 5 TO 0. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH MR. LOWE, NEXT UP WE
HAVE ASSEMBLY MEMBER ORTEGA WITH
FILE ITEM SIX. AFTERNOON. GOOD
AFTERNOON. YOU CAN START
WHENEVER YOU ARE READY. THANK
YOU SO MUCH, MADAM CHAIR, AND
COMMITTEE MEMBERS, FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT AB 2769.
I WANT TO START BY ACCEPTING THE
AMENDMENTS SUGGESTED BY THE
COMMITTEE. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH
FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS BILL. THIS
BILL WOULD SIMPLY ADD A CHECKBOX
ON THE CALIFORNIA FRANCHISE TAX
FORM ASKING FILERS IF THEY OR
SOMEONE IN THEIR HOUSEHOLD WOULD
BE INTERESTED IN LEARNING ABOUT
APPRENTICESHIP OPPORTUNITIES, AS
THE TAX BOARD WOULD THEN
REQUEST. THE DEPARTMENT OF
INDUSTRIAL RELATIONS DER TO SEND
INFORMATION TO THE FILER ON THE
CALIFORNIA APPRENTICESHIP GRANT.
IN 2018, GOVERNOR NEWSOM SET A
GOAL OF REACHING 500,000
REGISTERED APPRENTICE BY 2029,
ACCORDING TO THE DER, CALIFORNIA
CURRENTLY ONLY HAS 92,000 PEOPLE
REGISTERED AS APPRENTICES. THIS
MEANS WE ARE NOT ON TRACK TO
MEET THE GOVERNOR'S GOAL BY THIS
DEADLINE. AB 2769 AIMS TO
FACILITATE AWARENESS OF THESE
APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS AND
GRANTS BY MAKING IT EASIER FOR
PEOPLE TO FIND OUT WHICH
OPPORTUNITIES BEST SUIT THEIR
GOALS. THIS SMALL CHANGE COULD
HAVE A HUGE IMPACT ON EXPANDING
THE CAREER OPTIONS OF YOUNG
ADULTS, EXPOSING THEM TO A WIDE
VARIETY OF STABLE, WELL PAID,
PROTECTED JOBS. TESTIFYING WITH
ME TODAY, WE HAVE MR. ALFREDO
CAMACHO, WESTERN REGIONAL
DIRECTOR FROM YOUNG INVISIBLES
AND ISIS ORELLANA, POLICY
ANALYST OF THE CALIFORNIA
WORKFORCE ASSOCIATION. YOU MAY
START. THANK YOU. GOOD
AFTERNOON, CHAIR, AND MEMBERS OF
THE COMMITTEE. THANK YOU SO MUCH
FOR YOUR TIME TODAY. MY NAME IS
ALFREDO CAMACHO, THE WESTERN
REGIONAL DIRECTOR OF YOUNG
INVINCIBLES. WE ARE A NATIONAL
NONPROFIT FOCUSED ON POLICY AND
ADVOCACY FOR YOUNG ADULTS AGES
18 TO 34, EXPANDING ECONOMIC
SECURITY FOR THEM, SO AB 2769
FOR US IS A CRITICAL STEP
FORWARD IN MAKING APPRENTICESHIP
PROGRAMS MORE VISIBLE AND
ACCESSIBLE TO HISTORICALLY
UNDERREPRESENTED GROUPS TO
ENSURE THAT ALL CALIFORNIANS
HAVE EQUAL ACCESS TO PATHWAYS
FOR ECONOMIC ADVANCEMENT BY
LEVERAGING THE STATE'S TAX
FILING PROCESS. THIS BILL
ENABLES CALIFORNIANS TO EXPLORE
APPRENTICESHIP OPPORTUNITIES AND
CAREER PATHWAYS THAT ALIGN WITH
THEIR NEEDS BY RECEIVING
INFORMATION DIRECTLY FROM A
TRUSTED RESOURCE. YOUNG PEOPLE
FROM HISTORICALLY
UNDERREPRESENTED COMMUNITIES
FACE BARRIERS TO ACCESSING
QUALITY EDUCATION AND MEANINGFUL
CAREER OPPORTUNITIES. REYES AND
APPRENTICESHIPS ARE AN
OPPORTUNITY TO GAIN VALUABLE
SKILLS AND EARN A LIVING WAGE,
WHILE ALSO CREATING A PIPELINE
FOR GROWING SECTORS HERE IN
CALIFORNIA, SUCH AS RENEWABLE
ENERGY, TECHNOLOGY, HEALTHCARE,
GOODS MOVEMENT AND
MANUFACTURING. STILL MANY YOUNG
PEOPLE MISS OUT ON
APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS, BOTH
FROM LACK OF INFORMATION AND THE
DECADES LONG PUSH TOWARDS
COLLEGE FOR ALL. WOMEN ALSO
REMAIN UNDERREPRESENTED IN
APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS,
COMPRISING ONLY 7% OF
APPRENTICESHIPS. AB 2769
EXPANDED OUTREACH EFFORTS MEANS
REACHING MORE YOUNG PEOPLE AND
WOMEN, PROVIDING THEM WITH
ACCESS TO APPRENTICESHIP
OPPORTUNITIES THAT CAN LEAD TO
ECONOMIC MOBILITY AT A CRUCIAL
TIME, PROVIDING A COMPREHENSIVE
SOLUTION TO HISTORICAL, ECONOMIC
AND GEOGRAPHIC DISPARITIES TO
APPRENTICESHIP OPPORTUNITIES.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND
CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU. GOOD
AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR, AND
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. MY
NAME IS ISSA SORIANO WITH THE
CALIFORNIA WORKFORCE ASSOCIATION
. CWA REPRESENTS ALL 45
WORKFORCE BOARDS ACROSS THE
STATE. IN ADDITION TO SUPPORTING
OUR LOCAL WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT
BOARDS, CWA'S COMMITMENT TO
APPRENTICESHIP IS EVIDENT IN
SEVERAL OF OUR KEY PROJECTS. ONE
PROJECT INCLUDES OUR FEDERAL
YOUTH YOUTH APPRENTICESHIP
EXPANSION GRANT, AIMED AT
EXPANDING APPRENTICESHIP
PROGRAMS IN THE STATE.
ADDITIONALLY, CWA SITS ON THE
CALIFORNIA YOUTH APPRENTICESHIP
COMMITTEE, WHICH IS RESPONSIBLE
FOR DEVELOPING AND DEFINING
YOUTH AND HIGH SCHOOL
APPRENTICESHIP FRAMEWORKS.
RECOGNIZING THE NEED FOR QUALITY
WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT
PROFESSIONALS, THE CWA BECAME A
PROGRAM SPONSOR FOR THE
WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT
PROFESSIONAL CERTIFICATE PROGRAM
AND REGISTERED APPRENTICESHIP
PROGRAM, DESIGNED TO MEET THE
NEEDS OF WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT
PROFESSIONALS AS A PATHWAY FOR
PERSONAL GROWTH AND PROFESSIONAL
DEVELOPMENT. A LOCAL WORKFORCE
DEVELOPMENT BOARDS PLAY A
CRUCIAL ROLE IN PROMOTING
BUSINESS GROWTH BY MATCHING
TALENT WITH INDUSTRY NEEDS. AB
2769 SUPPORTS THIS BY INCREASING
AWARENESS AND ENROLLMENT IN
APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS,
ENSURING THAT LOCAL BUSINESSES
HAVE ACCESS TO A TRAINED AND
SKILLED WORKFORCE. 30, THAT IS,
A PERCENTAGE OF CALIFORNIA YOUTH
THAT END UP WITH A FOUR YEAR
DEGREE. WHILE OUTCOMES FOR THIS
GROUP ARE GENERALLY POSITIVE,
CALIFORNIA'S EXISTING
EDUCATIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE
REGRETTABLY ISOLATES THOSE WHO
MAY NOT WISH TO CONTINUE THEIR
EDUCATION PAST HIGH SCHOOL AND
PREFER TO INSTEAD GAIN TECHNICAL
SKILLS TO ADVANCE THEIR CAREERS.
CALIFORNIA'S DIVERSE POPULATION,
FACE VARIED ECONOMIC DISPARITIES
AND INSTITUTIONAL BARRIERS THAT
CREATE OBSTACLES THAT MAY MAKE
POST-SECONDARY EDUCATIONAL
EDUCATION INACCESSIBLE. WITH
GOVERNOR NEWSOM SOON TO BE
RELEASED MASTER PLAN FOR CAREER
EDUCATION, CALIFORNIA'S SOON TO
EMBARK ON A TRANSFORMATIONAL
CHANGE ON HOW WE TREAT
APPRENTICESHIPS. THIS INCLUDES
UTILIZING ANY AND ALL TOOLS
AVAILABLE TO GROW THIS
ALTERNATIVE PIPELINE. IT IS FOR
THESE REASONS CWA SUPPORTS AB
2769. WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK
ASSEMBLY MEMBER ORTEGA FOR
BRINGING THIS MEASURE FORWARD
AND RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR
AYE VOTE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
OTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT.
MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS SARA FLOCKS,
CALIFORNIA LABOR FEDERATION IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. MADAM CHAIR
AND MEMBERS, JAMES WALKER WITH
THE CALIFORNIA STATE COUNCIL OF
LABORERS AND STRONG SUPPORT. ALL
RIGHT. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION?
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE
COMMITTEE? ASSEMBLY MEMBER
GIBSON, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I
WAS READING THE SUMMARY, AND
ANYTHING DEALING WITH APPRENTICE
PROGRAMS IS SOMETHING THAT I
ABSOLUTELY BELIEVE IN, I WANT TO
THANK THE AUTHOR FOR BRINGING
THIS BEFORE US TODAY, I WILL BE
IN FACT, SUPPORTING THIS BILL. I
WOULD MOVE THIS BILL AND ALSO
WOULD LOVE TO BE CONSIDERED AS A
COAUTHOR OF THIS BILL. WHEN WE
LOOK AT, WHEN WE TOOK OUT, WOOD
SHOP, METAL SHOP AND WHICH I
HAVE BEEN FOCUSED ON SINCE I'VE
BEEN HERE, CAREER, TECHNICAL
EDUCATION AND GIVING OUR
STUDENTS THE OPPORTUNITY TO, ONE
USE AND BE PART AND BE TRAINED
OF THIS EMERGING TECHNOLOGY. WE
HAVE A WORKFORCE THAT'S NOT,
HAVE A NUMBER OF JOBS, BUT NOT A
TRAINED WORKFORCE TO DO AND FILL
THESE POSITIONS. SO ANYTHING
THAT WE CAN DO TO MOVE THE
NEEDLE AND MOVE PEOPLE INTO
THESE PROGRAMS, HELPS
CALIFORNIA. IT HELPS, OUR
TECHNOLOGY THAT EXISTS THAT
EMERGE IN CALIFORNIA WHEN WE
CALIFORNIA TOOK OUT THIS FROM
SCHOOLS, THAT'S WHEN WE SAW THE
PRISON PIPELINE OPENED UP. LET
ME SAY THAT AGAIN. THAT'S WHEN
WE SAW THE PRISON PIPELINE OPEN
UP, BECAUSE WHEN THEY GRADUATED
FROM HIGH SCHOOL, THEY HAD
NOTHING TO DO. AND THEN NOW OUR
HOPE AND PROMISE IS NOW LOCKED
AWAY IN JAIL, IN PRISON. AND
THIS IS, I THINK, IS A GOOD STEP
IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. I'M
EXCITED ABOUT IT. AND THANK YOU
VERY MUCH FOR BRINGING THIS
MEASURE BEFORE THIS COMMITTEE.
THANK YOU. AND YES, I CAN ADD
YOU. ALL RIGHT, WOULD YOU LIKE
TO CLOSE? I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
YOUR VOTE. VERY GOOD. I'LL
SECOND. ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE A
MOTION BY ASSEMBLY MEMBER GIBSON
AND A SECOND BY ASSEMBLY MEMBER
GRAYSON. AND THE MOTION IS TO
PASS TO THE APPROPRIATIONS
COMMITTEE. MISS HYLAND, PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL ON ITEM NUMBER
SIX, AB 2769. THE MOTION IS TO
PASS TO APPROPRIATIONS. IRWIN
IRWIN. EYE TO EYE TO EYE.
BAYNES. GIBBS AN EYE. GIBSON I
GRAYSON. GRAYSON I JIM
PATTERSON. THREE OF US. THREE OF
US I. IT PASSES FIVE ZERO. ALL
RIGHT. THAT BILL IS OUT FIVE
ZERO. ALL RIGHT, MR. FONG. ITEM
NUMBER THREE. HOW ARE YOU?
WHENEVER YOU'RE READY. YEP THANK
YOU. CHAIR. MEMBERS. AS GEORGE
SKELTON STATED IN THE IN HIS
LATEST LA TIMES ARTICLE, WHEN
THE STOCK MARKET SNEEZES,
CALIFORNIA STATE GOVERNMENT
CATCHES PNEUMONIA DEMONSTRATED
THROUGH THE PEAKS AND VALLEYS IN
CALIFORNIA'S CAPITAL GAINS
COLLECTIONS BUDGET VOLATILITY
WILL ONLY CONTINUE UNLESS THE
STATE CHANGES HOW IT HANDLES
CAPITAL GAINS. THIS BILL,
ASSEMBLY BILL 2486, WILL CREATE
A CAPITAL GAINS STABILIZATION
ACCOUNT, WHICH WILL STORE AN
AVERAGE REVENUE FROM CAPITAL
GAINS OVER SEVERAL YEARS. BACK
IN 2015, A UNIVERSITY OF
CALIFORNIA, BERKELEY PROFESSOR
RESEARCHING ECONOMICS AND
TAXATION STATED THAT HE IS
PRETTY CONFIDENT THAT CALIFORNIA
WILL HAVE ANOTHER FISCAL CRISIS
GIVEN ITS TAX STRUCTURE. NINE
YEAR LATER. NINE YEARS LATER,
THE STATE IS NOW FACING A $73
BILLION DEFICIT. ACCORDING TO
THE LAW, REQUIRING MAJOR CUTS
AND DELAYS IN SPENDING AND THE
BUDGET NEGOTIATIONS. FOLLOWING A
$97 BILLION STATE BUDGET SURPLUS
IN 2022. ASIDE FROM ALASKA,
CALIFORNIA HAS THE MOST VOLATILE
TAX STRUCTURE WITHIN THE UNITED
STATES. THE STATE USED TO RELY.
THE STATE USED TO RELY HEAVILY
ON RETAIL SALES AND USE TAXES TO
FILL ITS COFFERS, BUT HAS NOW
SHIFTED TOWARDS RECEIVING MOST
OF ITS REVENUE THROUGH PERSONAL
INCOME TAXES. THAT RELIANCE ON
PERSONAL INCOME TAXES ALSO SKEWS
SKEWS HEAVILY TOWARDS THE TOP 1%
OF INCOME EARNERS, WHO PAID HALF
OF THE STATE'S PERSONAL INCOME
TAXES IN 2020. THE STATE'S TOTAL
PERSONAL INCOME TAXES IN 2021.
THEREFORE, CALIFORNIA'S REVENUES
ARE EXTREMELY UNPREDICTABLE DUE
TO ITS RELIANCE ON REVENUES FROM
PERSONAL INCOME TAX, WHICH
RELIES HEAVILY ON THE STRONG
STOCK MARKET RETURNS GIVEN THAT
THIS DEMOGRAPHIC IS HEAVILY
INVESTED IN THE MARKET, BETTING
ON STRONG MARKET RETURNS YEAR
OVER YEAR IN ORDER TO FUND OUR
STATE GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS IS NOT
ONLY RISKY, BUT IT IS ALSO
FISCALLY IRRESPONSIBLE.
CALIFORNIA'S TAX SYSTEM IS
BROKEN AND RELIES ON THE RICH TO
BAIL OUT, TO BAIL THE STATE OUT
OF ITS FISCAL MISMANAGEMENT.
THIS BILL PROPOSES A SOLUTION TO
THE REVENUE VOLATILITY ISSUE BY
CREATING A SEPARATE ACCOUNT FOR
CAPITAL GAINS COLLECTIONS AND
SENDING A CONSISTENT FIVE YEAR
AVERAGE AMOUNT TO THE GENERAL
FUND. GIVEN THAT REVENUES WILL
NO LONGER BE REPORTED AND SPENT
ALL AT ONCE, THIS WILL SMOOTH
OUT THE VOLATILITY WITHOUT
INCREASING TAXES. I RESPECTFULLY
ASK FOR AN AYE VOTE, AND JOINING
ME TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OF AB
2486 IS TOBIAS WILKEN. ON BEHALF
OF CALTEX. THANK YOU, MADAM
CHAIR AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS VICE
WILK AND ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA TAXPAYERS ASSOCIATION
AND PROUD SUPPORT OF AB 2486.
LARGE DEFICITS ARE NOT NEW FOR
THE STATE AND ARE A DIRECT
RESULT OF THE UNPREDICTABILITY
OF CALIFORNIA'S PROGRESSIVE TAX
STRUCTURE, WHICH RELIES HEAVILY
ON THE TAX REVENUE FROM HIGH
INCOME EARNERS AND CAPITAL
GAINS. CALIFORNIA HAS TAKEN
IMPORTANT STEPS TO ADDRESS
REVENUE VOLATILITY, INCLUDING
THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A RAINY DAY
FUND, AND THIS BILL WOULD BUILD
ON PREVIOUS REVENUE STABILIZING
MEASURES. AB 2486 WOULD SIMPLY
PROVIDE A MECHANISM FOR USING
MORE ACCURATE REVENUE ESTIMATES
WHEN DRAFTING THE BUDGET, BY
DEPOSITING PERSONAL INCOME AND
CORPORATE TAX REVENUES INTO AN
INCOME STABILIZATION FUND. THIS
IS ANOTHER SOLID STEP TOWARDS
STABILIZING THE BUDGET PROCESS
FOR THE BENEFIT OF TAXPAYERS AND
GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS ALIKE. THE
REVENUE AVERAGING SYSTEM
PROPOSED IN THIS BILL ADDRESSES
THE VOLATILITY PROBLEM IN A VERY
STRAIGHTFORWARD AND TRANSPARENT
WAY, WITHOUT ANY HARMFUL
ECONOMIC SIDE EFFECTS. FOR THESE
REASONS, THE CALIFORNIA
TAXPAYERS ASSOCIATION SUPPORTS
THIS BILL AND URGES YOUR I VOTE
AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME. ALL
RIGHT. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT? ANY
WITNESSES ARE YOU SUPPORT THOSE
OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION. I DON'T KNOW WHY
CALLING, CHRIS MYERS WITH THE
CALIFORNIA SCHOOL EMPLOYEES
ASSOCIATION REPRESENTING 250,000
CLASSIFIED EMPLOYEES ACROSS THE
STATE, WE'RE OPPOSED TO THE BILL
JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE CONCERNS
ABOUT ITS IMPACTS ON PROP 98.
WE'RE UNSURE OF WHAT THOSE
IMPACTS ARE. AND FOR THOSE
REASONS, WE'RE GOING TO ASK FOR
YOUR NO VOTE TODAY. THAT'S IT.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, QUESTIONS
OR COMMENTS FROM THE COMMITTEE?
NO QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. WOULD
YOU LIKE TO CLOSE, I THANK YOU,
MADAM CHAIR. CALIFORNIA WILL
CONTINUE TO HAVE SURPLUSES
FOLLOWED BY DETRIMENTAL
DEFICITS. IF STABILITY IS NOT
RETURNED TO OUR TAX COLLECTION
METHOD TO AVOID OVERPROMISING ON
STATE PROGRAMS AND THEN FACING
YET MORE CUTS IN FUTURE BUDGET
YEARS, THIS CHAOTIC STRUCTURE
REQUIRES SOME UNIFORMITY. WE'RE
DEALING WITH THIS, WITH THIS
RIGHT AT THIS VERY SPEAK. SO AB
2486 RESTORES THE STABILITY
WHICH WILL ALLOW THE STATE TO
ALLOCATE FUNDING WITH MORE
CERTAINTY, PROVIDING MORE
CONSISTENCY FOR STATE FUNDED
PROGRAMS. OUR STAFF ASKED FOR MY
VOTE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. AND WITHOUT OBJECTION,
THIS BILL WILL BE REFERRED TO
OUR SUSPENSE FILE. AND WE ARE
WAITING FOR ONE MORE AUTHOR. MR.
CHAIRMAN, MR. CHEN, HAVE YOU
BEEN ABLE TO CALL? OKAY, I'M
CALLING
.
HE'S GOING TO BE FIVE MINUTES.
SO ALL RIGHT, ADD ONS, MR.
GIBSON, TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR,
WHICH HAS PASSED A Ã. GIBSON. I
. ON ITEM NUMBER TWO, AB 2897.
THAT BILL HAS PASSED. GIBSON I
GIBSON I
.
YOU'RE ALL CLEAR. ALL RIGHT.
ASSEMBLY MEMBER CHEN, WE ARE
READY FOR YOU. I AM SO SORRY FOR
MY TARDINESS. MY APOLOGIES. NO
PROBLEM. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
ITEM NUMBER ONE AB 3134. THANK
YOU, MADAM CHAIR. FIRST, I WANT
TO THANK THE COMMITTEE FOR
WORKING WITH MY STAFF, AND WE'LL
BE TAKING ALL COMMITTEE
AMENDMENTS, IN LIEU OF TIME, I
KNOW THAT YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN
WAITING FOR ME. I'M GOING TO
DEFER TO MY Kò EXPERT WITNESS
TESTIMONY. MR. MATT SEIVERLING
FROM THE ASSOCIATION OF COUNTY
AUDITORS. THANK YOU, MADAM
CHAIR. AND MEMBERS. MATTHEW
SEIBERLING, ON BEHALF OF THE
STATE ASSOCIATION OF COUNTY
AUDITORS, THIS BILL WOULD
PROVIDE AN EXPANSION TO AN
EXISTING TOOL THAT COUNTY
AUDITORS AND COUNTIES USE TO
EXPEDITE MONEY INTO THE HANDS OF
TAXPAYERS, WHERE THE MONEY IS Dð
, INCREASING THE THRESHOLD FROM
5000 TO $10,000 FOR A NUMBER OF
DIFFERENT REFUNDS THAT QUALIFY
WITHOUT A FUND OR WITHOUT A
CLAIM FOR THAT REFUND TO BE
SUBMITTED, SO IN THE SPIRIT OF
RETURNING THAT MONEY BACK TO
TAXPAYERS MORE QUICKLY,
ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S OWED TO
THEM, WE ASK FOR AN AYE VOTE.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER WITNESSES IN SUPPORT?
GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR. AND
MEMBERS. KAREN LANG, ON BEHALF
OF THE CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF
COUNTY TREASURERS AND TAX
COLLECTORS AND SUPPORT. THAT'S
THE FUN PART OF THE JOB IS
GIVING THEM MONEY BACK AND WE
ASK FOR YOUR VOTE. THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION? ANY
QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE?
MR. CHEN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO
CLOSE? I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR
YOUR. AYE VOTE, MADAM CHAIR. ALL
RIGHT. DO WE HAVE A MOTION?
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. A MOTION
BY ASSEMBLY MEMBER GRACE. AND A
SECOND BY ASSEMBLY MEMBER
GIBSON. THE MOTION IS TO PASS,
AS AMENDED, TO APPROPRIATIONS.
MISS HIGHLAND, PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL ON ITEM NUMBER ONE, AB
3134. THE MOTION IS TO PASS, AS
AMENDED, TO APPROPRIATE. IRWIN I
IRWIN I TO BAINS. GIBSON. GIBSON
I GRAYSON. GRAYSON I JIM
PATTERSON. THREE OF US THREE OF
US I THAT BILL HAS PASSED. THAT
BILL IS OUT. THANK YOU MADAM.
ALL RIGHT. NOW WE ARE GOING TO
BE NEED TO WAIT UNTIL MORE
MEMBERS COME. THEN WE'LL HAVE TO
DO THAT ALSO FOR REGULAR ORDER
OF BUSINESS. AND THEN WE CAN
MOVE TO SUSPENSE. SO WE NEED
YOU, PATTERSON. HERE WE GO. OKAY
ALL RIGHT, SO THIS IS WITH
SUSPENSE. WE NEED EVERYBODY HERE
. UNFORTUNATELY. SO WE'RE
WAITING FOR OUR TWO REPUBLICAN
MEMBERS TO MR. PATTERSON. MR.
PEP AND MR. RIVAS, WHERE DID MR.
TONKO AND MR. TODD OKAY. OH.
BAINES Tð. YES OR WE CAN ALL
JUST SAY A DIFFERENT TIME AND GO
PRESENT BILLS OR. SINCE WE WERE
WAITING FOR THE CHAIR.
PEPPERONI. NO CHEESE. MUSHROOM I
DON'T THINK IT'S TOO EARLY FOR.
OH DEAR. YEAH.
I MOVE TO ADD ONS. WHILE WE'RE
WAITING ON ITEM NUMBER 1AB 3134
FOR THE BILL HAS PASSED, TO A
TO. I THAT'S IT
.
OKAY, MISS. MISS BAINES, WE'RE
JUST GOING TO DO A ADD ONS FOR
YOU, AND THEN WE'LL BE GOING TO
SUSPENSE. WE'RE STILL WAITING
FOR MR. PATTERSON. ASSEMBLY
MEMBER BAINES.
I'M SORRY. THIS HAS BEEN SILENT.
SO WE HAVE TO DO THAT. I'M
SORRY. WHAT SHE HAD IT MUTED, SO
WE NEED TO REDO IT. REDO JUST
THE CONSENT CALENDAR. WE NEED TO
ANNOUNCE IT AGAIN NOW. OKAY. ON
THE CONSENT CALENDAR FOR ITEM
ADD ONS WHICH HAS ALREADY PASSED
BAINES. BAINES I ON ITEM NUMBER
1AB 3134 WHICH HAS PASSED BAINES
I BAINES I ON ITEM NUMBER TWO AB
2897. THAT BILL HAS PASSED
BAINES. BAINES I. ON ITEM NUMBER
FIVE AB 3268. THAT BILL HAS
PASSED BAINES I BAINES I ON ITEM
NUMBER SIX AB 2769. THAT BILL
HAS PASSED BAINES. BAINES I. AND
THAT IS IT. THAT'S ALL. I DON'T
NEED YET
.
SO WE CAN DO NOW, RIGHT?
ALL RIGHT, MR. PATTERSON, WE'RE
GOING TO START WITH ADD ONS ON
THE CONSENT CALENDAR, WHICH HAS
PASSED. JIM PATTERSON, JIM
PATTERSON, I ITEM NUMBER ONE, AB
3134. THAT BILL HAS PASSED. JIM
PATTERSON. JIM PATTERSON, I ITEM
NUMBER TWO, AB 2897. THAT BILL
HAS PASSED. JIM PATTERSON JIM
PATTERSON I. ITEM NUMBER FIVE AB
3268. THAT BILL HAS PASSED. JIM
PATTERSON JIM PATTERSON I ITEM
NUMBER SIX AB 2769. THAT BILL
HAS PASSED. JIM PATTERSON JIM
PATTERSON I. OKAY. WE'RE CLEAR
ON THAT. ALL DONE WITH THAT. ALL
RIGHT. SO HAVING DEALT WITH ALL
ITEMS UNDER OUR REGULAR ORDER OF
BUSINESS PORTION OF THE MEETING,
WE WILL NOW TAKE UP THE BILLS ON
OUR SUSPENSE FILE AND FILE
ORDER. WE WILL START WITH FILE
ITEM THREE AB 2486 BY ASSEMBLY
MEMBER FONG, THIS BILL IS HELD
IN COMMITTEE. ITEM FILE. ITEM
FOUR AB 2686. ASSEMBLY MEMBER
GRAYSON. THIS BILL IS HELD IN
COMMITTEE FILE ITEM SEVEN AB
1932 BY ASSEMBLY MEMBER WARD.
THERE IS SOME INTEREST IN HAVING
ADDITIONAL CONVERSATION ON THIS
ISSUE. I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE,
BILL, BUT, NOT COMMITTING TO
SUPPORTING THIS MEASURE ON THE
FLOOR. SO DO I HAVE A MOTION AND
A SECOND? SECOND, A MOTION BY
ASSEMBLY MEMBER GIBSON. A SECOND
BY ASSEMBLY MEMBER RIVAS, THE
MOTION IS DUE. PASS TO THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS.
MISS HIGHLAND, PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL ON ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, AB
1932. THE MOTION IS DUE. PASS TO
APPROPRIATIONS. IRWIN I IRWIN I
TO NØ TO NÓ. BAINES. BAINES I
GIBSON I GIBSON I GRAYSON I
GRAYSON I JIM PATTERSON I JIM
PATTERSON. NÓ THREE OF US THREE
OF US I. I THINK WE HAVE A
CHANGE IN VOTE. VOTE CHANGE.
BAINES I DON'T KNOW YES I DON'T
KNOW SORRY I TO KNOW THAT BILL
PASSES 4 TO 3. ALL RIGHT. FILE
ITEM EIGHT. YOU WANT TO ANNOUNCE
THAT. OH, THAT BILL IS OUT 4 TO
3. THE NEXT ITEM IS FILE ITEM
NUMBER EIGHT, AB 2353 BY
ASSEMBLY MEMBER WARD. I AM
RECOMMENDING AN AYE VOTE, AND
THE MOTION IS TO PASS, AS
AMENDED, TO APPLY A FIVE YEAR
SUNSET, ENSURE PROPERTIES ARE
STILL SUBJECT TO THE FOUR YEAR.
LOOK BACK FOR ASSESSORS TO
CORRECT THE ROLL. REQUIRE THAT
AN EXEMPTION CLAIM A
NOTIFICATION OF INELIGIBLE
INELIGIBILITY ARE SUBMITTED IN
ACCORDANCE WITH EXISTING LAW AND
TO MAKE CLARIFYING AND TECHNICAL
CHANGES. DO I HAVE A MOTION AND
A SECOND SO MOVED. SECOND, A
MOTION BY ASSEMBLY MEMBER
GIBSON. A SECOND BY ASSEMBLY
MEMBER RIVAS. THE MOTION IS Dð
PASS AS AMENDED TO THE COMMITTEE
ON APPROPRIATIONS. MISS
HIGHLAND, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL
ON ITEM NUMBER EIGHT. AB 2353.
THE MOTION IS TO PASS AS AMENDED
, TO APPROPRIATIONS. IRWIN I.
IRWIN EYE TO EYE TO EYE. BAINS
BAINS I GIBSON. A GIBSON I
GRAYSON. GRAYSON. I JIM.
PATTERSON JIM. PATTERSON I THREE
OF US I THREE OF US I THAT BILLS
OUT SEVEN ZERO. THAT BILL IS OUT
SEVEN ZERO NEXT FILE ITEM 12 AB
2564 BY ASSEMBLY MEMBER BERNARD.
THE I AM RECOMMENDING AN AYE
VOTE AND THE MOTION IS DUE. PASS
TO APPROPRIATIONS. DO I HAVE A
MOTION AND A SECOND. SO MOVED
SECOND, ASSEMBLY MEMBER, GRAYSON
MOVES ASSEMBLY MEMBER RIVAS
SECONDS, MISS HIGHLAND, PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL ON. ITEM NUMBER.
OKAY, I DID SAY DO TO DO PASS TO
APPROPRIATIONS. YEAH. ON ITEM
NUMBER 12, AB 2564, THE MOTION
IS TO PASS TO APPROPRIATIONS.
IRWIN I IRWIN I TO I BAINES.
BAINES I GIBSON A GIBSON I
GRAYSON. GRAYSON I JIM PATTERSON
JIM PATTERSON I THREE OF US. HI
THREE OF US I THAT BILLS OUT
SEVEN ZERO. ALL RIGHT. AND THE
LAST ITEM. OH I'M SORRY TO
ANNOUNCE THAT, THAT BILL IS OUT
SEVEN ZERO. THE LAST ITEM ON OUR
AGENDA IS FILE ITEM 13. AND
THAT'S AB 2977. I AM
RECOMMENDING AN AYE VOTE, BUT IT
IS BASED ON, A DUE PASS ON THE
AMENDMENTS, AND THE AMENDMENTS
ARE TO REMOVE ALL VISIONS OF THE
BILL EXCEPT FOR THE EXPANDED
ELIGIBILITY OF THE YOUNG CHILD
TAX CREDIT WITH THESE
AMENDMENTS, REMOVING ALL TAX
INCREASES FROM THE BILL, IT NOW
REQUIRES SIMPLY A MAJORITY VOTE
ON THE FLOOR. DO I HAVE A MOTION
AND A SECOND. SO A MOTION BY
ASSEMBLY MEMBER GRAYSON, A
SECOND BY ASSEMBLY MEMBER RIVAS.
MISS HYLAND, PLEASE CALL THE
ROLL ON ITEM NUMBER 13, AB 2977.
THE MOTION IS DUE PASS AS
AMENDED TO APPROPRIATIONS. IRWIN
I IRWIN I TO NOT VOTING TO NOT
VOTING. BAINES. BAINES I GIBSON
I GIBSON I GRAYSON GRAYSON I JIM
PATTERSON JIM. PATTERSON. NOT
VOTING THREE OF US. THREE OF US
I THAT BILL HAS PASSED 4 TO 0.
ALL RIGHT. AND FIVE ZERO. QUIET.
THAT BILL HAS PASSED 5 TO 0. AND
HAVE WE FINISHED WITH ALL OUR
BUSINESS? YES. ALL RIGHT. WITH
THAT, OUR MEETING IS ADJOURNED