GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY. WE WILL
GET STARTED WITH OUR HEARING
TODAY, THIS IS THE EDUCATION,
FINANCE SUBCOMMITTEE IN THE
ASSEMBLY. I AM CHAIR DAVID
ALVAREZ, AND WE HAVE A MEMBER
MURATSUCHI WITH US TO START THE
HEARING TODAY. TODAY WE WILL BE
FOCUSING OUR BUDGET DISCUSSIONS
ON CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY COLLEGES
, SIMILARLY TO HOW WE HAVE DONE
WITH OUR UC AND CSU SYSTEMS, BUT
IN PARTICULAR, TODAY WE'LL BE
FOCUSING ON A FEW THINGS THAT
ARE SPECIFIC TO THE COMMUNITY
COLLEGES. OBVIOUSLY, AS WE'VE
SEEN IN THE, PUBLISHED REPORT
FROM THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE
LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA, SURVEY OF
66,000 STUDENTS, WE'VE
IDENTIFIED, THE NEED IS GREAT
AMONG OUR COMMUNITY COLLEGE
STUDENTS, PARTICULARLY WITH FOOD
INSECURITY AND HOUSING
INSECURITY WITH A LARGE
PERCENTAGE OF STUDENTS. THE
COLLEGES SERVE ABOUT 2 MILLION
STUDENTS. AND, THAT MEANS THAT
WE HAVE A LOT OF NEEDS IN THE
STATE, HOWEVER, WE'VE ALL SEEN
THE BUDGET PROJECTIONS. SO TODAY
WE WILL HAVE THOSE DIFFICULT
CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE BEEN
HAVING, ABOUT HOW TO SUPPORT
STUDENTS IN THIS SYSTEM WHILE
ALSO FACING A MAJOR BUDGET
DEFICIT, DEPENDING ON THE MAY
REVISE, AND WE WILL KNOW IN A
COUPLE OF WEEKS. HEAR
PROPOSITION 98 FUNDING LEVELS
THAT MAY REQUIRE US TO MAKE
CUTS, OR PERHAPS FOREGO COLAS,
OR TO MAKE OTHER, MORE DIFFICULT
DECISIONS AND TAKE DIFFICULT
ACTIONS. SO I HOPE THAT TODAY,
LIKE WE'VE DONE AT OTHER AT OUR
OTHER HEARINGS FOR OUR OTHER
SYSTEMS, WE HAVE AN HONEST
CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT IS
HAPPENING IN OUR COMMUNITY
COLLEGE SYSTEM, HOW TO WEATHER
THE NEXT FEW YEARS OF BAD
BUDGETS AS ARE PROJECTED, AND
COME TOGETHER WITH SOLUTIONS AND
IDEAS ON HOW TO MOVE FORWARD.
I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO
SPECIFICALLY YOUR SOLUTIONS AND
YOUR SUGGESTIONS, I ALSO HOPE
TODAY THAT WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT
THE STUDENT CENTERED FUNDING
FORMULA. IT'S BEEN SIX YEARS
SINCE THE NEW FORMULA, AND IT'S,
I WOULD SAY, DIFFICULT TO
DETERMINE HOW IT'S FUNCTIONING,
MAJOR ENROLLMENT DECLINES HAVE
MEANT THAT MORE THAN HALF OF THE
DISTRICTS ARE NOT REALLY ON THE
FORMULA. AND, WE NEED TO
UNDERSTAND HOW THIS WILL CHANGE
DURING THE NEXT FEW YEARS,
PARTICULARLY AS A HOLD HARMLESS
PROVISIONS CHANGE IN 25, 26. AND
AS WE SEE, SOME COLLEGES
ACTUALLY IN LIKE WE HEAR, HEAR
OR LISTEN TO TODAY, HAVE HAD
SOME GROWTH. SO WE'VE GOT THE
WHOLE PLETHORA OF, SCENARIOS TO,
TO REVIEW. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE
THAT DISTRICTS ARE INCENTIVIZED
TO AND REWARDED FOR PROVIDING
ACCESS AND FOR SERVING THEIR
COMMUNITIES IN THE BEST WAYS
POSSIBLE. WHICH IS WHY WE'LL
ALSO BE DISCUSSING THE NURSING,
INITIATIVES, THAT IS IN PROPOSED
BUDGET AND HOW WE CAN EXPAND
NURSING PROGRAMS IN THE STATE TO
ADDRESS THE SHORTAGES AND
INCREASE THE DIVERSITY OF THE
HEALTH CARE WORKFORCE AND REALLY
IDENTIFY WHAT THAT WORKFORCE IS.
I HOPE TO GET INTO THAT
DISCUSSION TODAY AS WELL. WE
WILL SPEND SOME TIME, LOOKING AT
THE PAST INVESTMENTS OF
PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PROGRAMS,
AND THAT INCLUDES CALBRIGHT
COLLEGE, AS WE HAVE DONE AGAIN
WITH UC AND CSU. THIS IS AN
IMPORTANT OVERSIGHT AS WE
CONSIDER HOW TO HANDLE THIS
BUDGET DEFICIT. SO WITH THAT,
WE'VE BEEN DOING SOMETHING AT
THE COMMITTEE. WE'VE BEEN
OFFERING PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY
TO SPEAK, PUBLIC COMMENT EARLY
RATHER THAN AT THE END. AND SO
IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AN
ABBREVIATED, COMMENT NOW, AS
OPPOSED TO WAITING TILL THE END,
YOU'RE WELCOME TO DO SO. IT
ALSO, I FEEL HELPS US SHAPE OUR
CONVERSATION, OUR DISCUSSIONS
AND OUR QUESTIONS. SO I INVITE
ANYBODY WHO'D LIKE TO MAKE A
ABBREVIATED COMMENT AROUND 30S,
THIS WOULD BE A GOOD TIME TO DO
SO. GO AHEAD. PLEASE REMEMBER TO
STATE YOUR NAME, CHAIR ALVAREZ,
MEMBERS, DAVID HAWKINS WITH THE
CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY COLLEGE
INDEPENDENCE FACULTY UNION, TWO
ISSUES. WE DO ASK THAT YOU
CONSIDER EXTENDING FOR ONE YEAR
THE HOLD HARMLESS PROVISIONS
WHILE WE'RE REVIEWING CFF. AND
WITH THE FUNDING FORMULA, WE
WOULD VERY MUCH WELCOME, AN
EXTENSIVE REVIEW AND THE
IMPLICATIONS. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU FOR SETTING THE TONE. BRIEF
COMMENTS. HELLO. MY NAME IS ANYA
ELDER AND I REPRESENT THE CAL
BRIGHT CLASSIFIED EMPLOYEES AS
THE UNION PRESIDENT FOR CHAPTER
53. CAL BRIGHT WAS CREATED
EXACTLY FOR THE TIMES THAT WE'RE
IN TODAY. AND IN FACT, I
STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT THIS
REALLY IS OUR MOMENT, OUR
ECONOMY, OUR WORKFORCE. IT'S
RAPIDLY CHANGING WITH
UNEMPLOYMENT GROWING IN THE
STATE AND WITH US STARING AT THE
FOURTH INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION,
IRREVERSIBLY CHANGING THE NATURE
OF OUR WORK IN EDUCATION, IN THE
FUNDING AT CAL BRIGHT THAT WE
CURRENTLY HAVE IS NEEDED TO
REALLY BE ABLE TO MEET THIS
MOMENT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
APPRECIATE YOUR ABBREVIATED AND
CONCISE COMMENTS. GOOD MORNING.
MICHELLE MCKAY UNDERWOOD, ON
BEHALF OF THE ASSOCIATION OF
CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY COLLEGE
ADMINISTRATORS, SO TWO MAJOR
POINTS. ONE, WE SUPPORT THE
GOVERNOR'S APPROACH TO SORT OF
MINIMIZE HARM THROUGH THE
PROPOSITION 90 MANEUVER. SO WE
KNOW THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA
TODAY, BUT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT
FOR THE STRUCTURE MOVING FORWARD
. AND SECOND, WE REALLY WANT TO
ELEVATE THE STUDENT NURSING
PROPOSAL. WE KNOW THAT WE CAN DO
THIS IN THE MOST COST EFFICIENT
WAY, AND THAT THAT WILL SEND
NURSES OUT INTO THE FIELD WHERE
THEY DON'T HAVE TO THINK ABOUT
THE CRIPPLING LEVEL OF DEBT, AND
THEY CAN DO THE MOST GOOD AS
OPPOSED TO JUST BEING ABLE TO
PAY OFF THEIR DEBTS. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. HELLO, MY NAME IS
MICHAEL STEWART AND I'M THE
ACADEMIC SENATE PRESIDENT AT
CALVARY COLLEGE. AND I'M HERE
TODAY TO ADVOCATE FOR CONTINUED
INVESTMENT IN CALBRIGHT COLLEGE,
WHICH IS QUITE LITERALLY
CHANGING THE LIVES OF
CALIFORNIA'S MOST VULNERABLE AND
UNDERSERVED STUDENTS. AS SOMEONE
WHO HAS PERSONALLY WRITTEN
LETTERS OF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR
CAL GRADUATES, I HAVE WITNESSED
FIRSTHAND THE TRANSFORMATION.
TRANSFORMATION, TRANSFORMATIVE
POWER OF THIS THIS INNOVATIVE,
SKILL BASED COLLEGE. MANY OF
THESE STUDENTS WERE WAS ONCE
LEFT BEHIND BY THE TRADITIONAL
EDUCATION SYSTEM. THANK YOU SIR.
SORRY IF YOU MAKE IF YOU MAKE
EARLY COMMENTS OR MAKING THEM
MORE ABBREVIATED, YOU'RE WELCOME
TO STAY AFTERWARDS TO MAKE A
LONGER STATEMENT. THANK YOU.
HOPE THAT YOU CONTINUE TO
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. ANNA
MATTHEWS WITH THE FACULTY
ASSOCIATION OF CALIFORNIA
COMMUNITY COLLEGES. LOOKING
FORWARD TO DISCUSSING THE
STUDENT CENTERED FUNDING FORMULA
TODAY AND THE WAYS IN WHICH IT
FAILS TO MEET THE NEEDS OF OUR
CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY COLLEGES.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.
WITH THAT, WE'LL BEGIN WITH OUR
FIRST. AND AGAIN, THERE'LL BE,
PUBLIC TESTIMONY AT THE END.
YOU'LL HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE
TIME AT THE END IF YOU WISH TO
MAKE A LONGER STATEMENT, BUT
APPRECIATE, HELPING US FOCUS ON,
ON SOME OF THE DISCUSSION THAT
WE'RE HAVING TODAY. AND THE
FIRST ONE IS THE STUDENT
CENTERED FUNDING FORMULA REVIEW
AND A PORTION, APPORTIONMENT
PROPOSAL, SO IF I CAN ASK THE
PANELISTS THAT WE'VE INVITED TO
PLEASE JOIN US, GREGORY SMITH,
CHANCELLOR FROM SAN DIEGO
COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT, TONY
DOTSON FROM YUBA COLLEGE, AND
MARIO RODRIGUEZ, VICE CHANCELLOR
FROM LOS RIOS COMMUNITY COLLEGE
DISTRICT. AND IF YOU HAVE YOUR
PREFERRED ORDER OF SPEAKING, GO
RIGHT AHEAD, OTHERWISE, MR.
SMITH, YOU CAN GO FIRST. ALL
RIGHT. WELL, GOOD MORNING, CHAIR
ALVAREZ. MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE WITH
YOU, I WANT TO ADDRESS SOME OF
THE QUESTIONS THAT I SAW IN THE
MATERIALS FOR THE MEETING.
STARTING WITH THE STRENGTHS AND
WEAKNESSES OF THE SKIFF. I THINK
THAT MOST PEOPLE WOULD AGREE
THAT THE IDEA OF ALIGNING
FUNDING WHERE STUDENT NEED IS
AND HAVING SOME INCENTIVES FOR
SUCCESS IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD
BE THINKING ABOUT. THE
CHALLENGES THAT THE SKIFF
IMPLEMENTED, THOUGH, IS THE WAY
THAT IT OPERATED IN 2018. THE
BASE FUNDING FOR OUR CREDIT
STUDENTS WAS CUT BY A LITTLE
OVER 26, AND NOW WE HAVE TO EARN
THAT FUNDING BACK THROUGH THE
SUPPLEMENTAL ALLOCATION THÀNH,
WHICH RELIES ON QUALIFICATION
FOR FINANCIAL AID. AND THROUGH
THAT SUCCESS METRIC, THE
FINANCIAL AID PIECE IS THE
BIGGEST CHALLENGE FOR LARGER
URBAN HIGH COST OF LIVING AREAS.
SO FROM 2018 TO 2022, THE MEDIAN
SALARY IN SAN DIEGO INCREASED
FROM ABOUT 75,000 PER HOUSEHOLD
TO JUST SHY OF 100,000, WHICH IS
GOOD NEWS BUT HAS NOT KEPT UP
WITH THE COST OF REAL ESTATE
INCREASES. INFLATION IN THE AREA
. SO WHEN YOU MAKE THAT MUCH
MONEY IN YOUR HOUSEHOLD, YOU'RE
NOT GOING TO QUALIFY FOR A PELL
GRANT OR THE CALIFORNIA PROMISE
GRANT. EVEN THOUGH YOUR HOUSING
NEEDS, TRANSPORTATION AND FOOD
NEEDS MAY BE GREATER THAN
SOMEBODY MAKING HALF AS MUCH IN
A LOWER COST, MORE RURAL PART OF
THE STATE. SO THE STUDENT
DOESN'T GET THE FINANCIAL
RESOURCES, AND THEN OUR DISTRICT
DOESN'T GET THAT ADDITIONAL
FUNDING AS A RESULT OF THE
SKIFF. LAST YEAR, WE RECEIVED
$292 MILLION IN FUNDING TO SERVE
ABOUT 37,000 FULL TIME
EQUIVALENT STUDENTS UNDER THE
OLD FORMULA, WE WOULD HAVE HAD
OVER 307 MILLION FOR THAT SAME
NUMBER OF STUDENTS. AND SO YOU
CAN SEE HOW IT HAS REALLOCATED
RESOURCES IN OUR SYSTEM
DISPROPORTIONATELY AWAY FROM
HIGH COST OF LIVING. SO I THINK
A TWEAK THAT WOULD BE
SIGNIFICANT WOULD BE TO CHANGE
THE ELIGIBILITY ON THE
SUPPLEMENTAL METRIC SO THAT
STUDENTS WITH A HOUSEHOLD INCOME
THAT EXCEEDS PELL ELIGIBILITY,
BUT STILL DOESN'T COVER BASIC
NEEDS, QUALIFIES FOR ADDITIONAL
FUNDING. SO WE CAN PROVIDE THAT.
AND I THINK THE FINAL THING I
WOULD SAY ON THIS IS ONE OF THE
ILLOGICAL COMPONENTS OF THE
SKIFF, TO A DEGREE, IS THAT
HAVING THAT FUNDING TIED TO
STUDENT FINANCIAL NEED
OSTENSIBLY WOULD MEAN THAT WE'RE
GETTING MORE RESOURCES TO HELP
STUDENTS WITH THEIR BASIC NEEDS,
BUT THAT FUNDING IS SUBJECT TO
THE 50% LAW. SO WE LOST
APPORTIONMENT FOR CREDIT
ENROLLMENT THAT WE WERE MEANT TO
THEN BE REDIRECTING TOWARDS
SERVING BASIC NEEDS. BUT HALF
THOSE FUNDS, THOSE FUNDS HAVE TO
GO BACK INTO THE CLASSROOM SO IT
DOESN'T ALLOW US TO ADDRESS
HOUSING, FOOD AND TRANSPORTATION
AND SECURITY. SO AS WE LOOK AT
THE POSSIBILITY OF CUTS,
DEFERRALS, SWEEPING FUNDS FROM
PRIOR YEARS, WHERE THAT WILL HIT
HARDEST WILL BE ON THE BASIC
NEEDS, SUPPORTS THAT WE PROVIDE
STUDENTS. IT'S GOING TO BE THE
PERSISTENCE PART. NOT SO MUCH
ACCESS. WE CAN STILL OFFER THE
CLASSES, BUT THE STUDENTS WHO
NEED ADDITIONAL SUPPORTS TO SHOW
UP TO THOSE CLASSES THAT'S GOING
TO BE THE HEAVIEST IMPACT. SO AS
WE'VE OFFERED BEFORE, IF THE
CONVERSATION DOES NEED TO
INCLUDE DEFERRALS AND CUTS,
PLEASE LET US BE PARTNERS IN
HELPING TO IDENTIFY FUNDS THAT
WOULD HAVE THE LEAST AMOUNT OF
IMPACT ON THE STUDENTS WITH THE
GREATEST NEED. GOOD MORNING. I'M
SO SORRY. GOOD MORNING, MY NAME
IS DOCTOR TONY DODSON. I WANT TO
START BY JUST THANKING YOU FOR
THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TODAY
AND TO PROVIDE A PERSPECTIVE,
THAT IS FROM A RURAL SMALL TO
MID-SIZE COMMUNITY COLLEGE. I
CERTAINLY ALSO WANT TO THANK YOU
FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING
TO PROVIDE US WITH THE KIND OF
STABILITY AND PREDICTABILITY
THAT'S IMPORTANT IN ORDER FOR US
TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THE
OUTCOMES THAT YOU ARE LOOKING
FOR FROM OUR WORK. I WANT TO
SHARE THAT MY PERSPECTIVE TODAY
IS NOT JUST AS A RURAL COMMUNITY
COLLEGE, BUT I'VE SERVED IN TWO
OTHER STATES AS AN EDUCATOR
OKLAHOMA AND WASHINGTON.
NOTABLY, WASHINGTON HAS THE
STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT INITIATIVE
ALLOCATION MODEL THAT IS FOCUSED
ON STUDENT OUTCOME METRICS AS
WELL. AND SO I'VE WORKED IN
MULTIPLE SYSTEMS THAT HAVE
IMPLEMENTED THAT SUCCESSFULLY,
YUBA COLLEGE AND THE YUBA
COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT FARED
WELL WHEN THE SKIFF WAS
IMPLEMENTED, LARGELY BECAUSE
SOME OF THE DEMOGRAPHICS THAT WE
SERVE, WE HAVE THE HIGHEST PELL
RATE ELIGIBILITY IN OUR REGION,
OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE SERVE. AND
YUBA, SUTTER, PLACER AND BUTTE
COUNTIES IS AMONGST THE LOWER
SOCIOECONOMIC STATUS IN THE
STATE. WE HAVE A HIGH MAJORITY.
STUDENTS OF COLOR, THE HIGH
MAJORITY OF STUDENTS WHO ARE
PARENTS, FIRST TIME GENERATION
STUDENTS, ETC. WE ALSO HAVE AN
AGRICULTURAL BASED COMMUNITY
THAT WE SERVE, AND SO WE HAVE A
HIGH CTE PORTFOLIO AMONGST OUR
ACADEMIC PROGRAMS. AND SO A LOT
OF THE STUDENT SUCCESS METRICS
THAT YOU ALL HAVE IMPLEMENTED IN
THIS GIF, WE ARE SUCCESSFUL AT,
BECAUSE THAT'S THE WORK THAT WE
DO TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE FOR OUR
STUDENTS OVERALL. UNFORTUNATELY,
IN DURING COVID, THOSE ARE SOME
OF THE STUDENTS THAT WERE THIS
MOST SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACTED BY
THE MITIGATION THINGS THAT WE
PUT IN PLACE FOR COVID 19. AND
MANY OF THEM HAD TO PUT A PAUSE
ON THEIR EDUCATIONAL JOURNEY IN
ORDER TO BE THE BREADWINNERS FOR
THEIR FAMILY OR TO NAVIGATE SOME
OF THE IMPACTS THAT WERE THERE
AS WE HAVE TRIED TO RECOVER FROM
THE COVID 19 IMPACTS ON OUR
ENROLLMENT, AND WE'RE DOING THAT
WELL, WE'VE SEEN A 14% YEAR OVER
YEAR INCREASE IN OUR ENROLLMENT.
WE'VE BEEN VERY STRATEGIC ABOUT
HOW WE DO THAT. WE BELIEVE THAT
THIS GIF SENDS US A MESSAGE FROM
YOU ALL ON WHAT IT IS YOU WANT
FOR US TO FOCUS ON, AND WE'VE
USED THAT AS WE'VE IMPLEMENTED
INITIATIVES AND STRATEGIES TO
RECOVER AN EXAMPLE IS WE FOCUSED
ON COMPLETION FOR STUDENTS WHO
HAD TO TAKE THOSE PAUSES USING
THINGS LIKE OUR HERF AND COVID
19 BLOCK GRANT FUNDING TO
INCENTIVIZE THEM TO RETURN TO
SCHOOL. AND IT'S BEEN SUCCESSFUL
FOR OUR ORGANIZATION AS A WHOLE.
IN FACT, IN THE 22, 23 YEAR, WE
SAW A 24% INCREASE IN
COMPLETIONS, MORE THAN 200
ASSOCIATE DEGREES THAN WE WOULD
HAVE EXPECTED, AND MORE THAN 500
MORE CERTIFICATE CGRTS, WHICH
WAS A 266% INCREASE, WE CONTINUE
TO SEE THE STUDENT SUCCESS
ALLOCATION MODEL PROVIDE US WITH
SOME SUPPORT IN FOCUSING ON
THOSE STUDENTS WHO NEED IT MOST
IN OUR COMMUNITY, AS WE MOVE
FORWARD, WE CERTAINLY BELIEVE
THAT IT PROVIDES US WITH THE
STABILITY AND PREDICTABILITY
THAT WE NEED IN ORDER TO FOCUS
AND HAVE CLARITY ON EQUITABLE
OUTCOMES MOVING FORWARD. I WOULD
CAUTION US ON MAKING CHANGES
WITHOUT ENSURING THAT EDUCATORS
AND PRACTITIONERS HAVE AN
OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN
THE DESIGN WITHOUT TESTING AND
MODELING THOSE IMPACTS. BECAUSE
CHANGES TO IT CAN BE WIDESPREAD
AND LONG TERME. AND WE CERTAINLY
WANT TO MAKE GOOD DECISIONS SO
THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO SEE
SUCCESS MOVING FORWARD. THANK
YOU AGAIN FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO
BE HERE AND TO BE A THOUGHT
PARTNER TODAY. THANK YOU. CHAIR
ALVAREZ, MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE. MY NAME IS MARIO
RODRIGUEZ. I'M THE EXECUTIVE
VICE CHANCELLOR OF LOS RIOS
COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT RIGHT
HERE IN SACRAMENTO. SO BEFORE I
LEAD INTO THE COMMENTS, WHICH
ARE GOING TO BE PRIMARILY
FOCUSED ON THE AGENDAS, PAGE 11,
THE TOP TWO PARAGRAPHS, WHICH
REPRESENT THE CONCERNS OF
DISTRICT LIKE DISTRICTS LIKE
OURS THAT ARE GROWING AND
RESTORING PRETTY RAPIDLY, GIVE
YOU SOME CONTEXT, MAYBE ABOUT
SACRAMENTO. SO SACRAMENTO LAST
YEAR WAS THE LARGEST SERVING MSA
IN THE STATE. IT'S BEEN
COMPETING WITH FRESNO AND
BAKERSFIELD FOR THE LAST ABOUT
DECADE, WE'RE THE NUMBER ONE
COUNTY IN THE STATE FOR THE BAY
AREA. PEOPLE THAT ARE LEAVING
THE BAY AREA IN SEARCH OF MORE
AFFORDABLE HOUSING, OVER THE
PAST DECADE, WE'VE SEEN OVER A
10% INCREASE OF HIGH SCHOOL
STUDENTS IN OUR SACRAMENTO
COUNTY. SO THAT COUPLED WITH THE
REFORMS WE'RE DOING ON OUR
CAMPUS, A LOT OF TIMES WITH THE
SUPPORT OF THIS COMMITTEE AND
THIS LEGISLATURE, WE'VE BEEN
STRONG IMPLEMENTERS IN PLACING
OUR STUDENTS APPROPRIATELY. WE
HAVE REALLY HEARD THE CALL FROM
OUR CURRENT CHANCELLOR,
CHANCELLOR CHRISTIAN,
PRE-PANDEMIC, WE ONLY ABOUT 2%
OF THE FTES WE SERVED WAS FROM
HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS THROUGH
DUAL ENROLLMENT. RIGHT NOW IT'S
AT 5. AND WE HAVE PLANS OVER THE
NEXT FEW YEARS TO GET THAT TO
ABOUT 10, WE HAVE ONE OF OUR
INSTITUTIONS THAT IS OVER 70%
OF, OF THE CREDIT INSTRUCTION
BEING TAUGHT WITH OPEN
EDUCATIONAL RESOURCES, MEANING
FREE TEXTBOOKS, WHICH IS A HUGE
BARRIER FOR OUR STUDENTS. THE
OTHER THREE COLLEGES IN OUR IN
OUR DISTRICT ARE OVER ONE THIRD.
SO WE'RE DOING ALL THE WORK WE
HAVE ALL THE STUDENTS THAT ARE
COMING AND WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN
THIS FORMULA IS WE'RE IT'S
THERE'S AN INEQUITABLE
ALLOCATION TO DISTRICTS LIKE
OURS THAT ARE RESTORING AND
POSSIBLY GROWING, YOU KNOW, THIS
SUMMER, YEAR OVER YEAR, WE'RE
LOOKING AT A 20% INCREASE IN
FULL TIME EQUIVALENT STUDENTS
ALREADY. AND THAT'S ON A BASE OF
A OF A FULLY RESTORED SUMMER
ALREADY, THIS YEAR WE'VE SEEN A
15% INCREASE IN OUR PELL GRANT
STUDENTS. SO THE STUDENTS ARE
THERE. THE QUESTION IS GOING TO
BE THAT IN THE MOST RECENT
YEARS, THE STATE'S BEEN ABLE TO
DO BOTH THINGS, SUPPORT
DISTRICTS LIKE OURS THAT ARE
RESTORING AND GROWING AND
MAINTAIN THESE REALLY LONG
TERMED HOLD HARMLESS PROVISIONS
THAT ARE IN THE CURRENT LAW
RIGHT NOW. AND THE QUESTION FOR
US IS, THAT'S GREAT. WE LOVE
THAT IDEA. WHEN THERE'S ENOUGH
MONEY. BUT IN A TIME LIKE WE'RE
SEEING PROBABLY COMING OUR WAY,
PRETTY SOON HERE, WE'RE GOING TO
HAVE TO START MAKING TRADE OFFS.
THAT'S GOING TO BE THE QUESTION,
I THINK, FROM PLACES LIKE LOS
RIOS, DISTRICTS THAT ARE FULLY
RESTORED AND NEAR, YOU KNOW,
GROWING OUR DESIRE IS THAT THE
STATE PRIORITIZE, AND RECOGNIZE
THAT THERE HAS BEEN A SHIFT IN
DEMOGRAPHICS IN CALIFORNIA,
PLACES IN THE VALLEY, THAT THAT
HAVE A LITTLE BIT CHEAPER
HOUSING PRICES ARE GOING TO BE
CAPTURING THOSE STUDENTS. URBAN
DISTRICTS LIKE OURS AS WELL. SO
WE WOULD JUST ASK THAT THE STATE
CONSIDER THAT. AND I THINK,
PRESIDENT DODSON'S COMMENTS
ABOUT THOUGHTFUL AND PLANNED
IMPLEMENTATION OF WHATEVER
CHANGES. I JUST WANT TO ECHO
THAT AS WELL. I THINK THAT'S
THAT'S KEY. SOMETIMES THINGS
HAPPEN, AT THE VERY LAST MINUTE,
AND THEN WE HAVE TO PASS BUDGETS
A FEW WEEKS LATER AND IT'S KIND
OF HARD FOR US ALL TO ADJUST.
SO, MODELING AND BEING
THOUGHTFUL ABOUT WHATEVER
CHANGES ARE MADE, WE'D ECHO THAT
COMMENT AS WELL. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, I HAVE SOME
QUESTIONS, BUT WE HAVE ANOTHER
PANEL ON THIS SPECIFIC ISSUE.
BUT TO MY COLLEAGUES, DO YOU
HAVE ANY MAYBE CLARIFYING
QUESTIONS FOR THIS PANEL, OR
WOULD YOU WANT TO WAIT TILL WE
HAVE THE OTHER PANEL? WAIT.
OKAY, WE'LL PROBABLY ASK YOU TO
COME BACK HERE AFTER OUR PANEL,
THE NEXT PANEL, I THINK
QUESTIONS WILL BE DIRECTED AT
BOTH OF YOU. SO, IF I COULD HAVE
THE, DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE,
LEGISLATIVE ANALYST'S OFFICE AND
THE, CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY
COLLEGE CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE COME
FORWARD, PLEASE. WHY DON'T WE
START WITH, DEPARTMENT OF
FINANCE AND THEN DO THE LAO AND
THEN THE CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE.
WELCOME THANK YOU, GOOD MORNING,
CHAIR AND MEMBERS. MY NAME IS
JUSTIN HURST WITH THE DEPARTMENT
OF FINANCE, AND I'LL BE COVERING
THE CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY
COLLEGES PROPOSITION 98
INVESTMENTS THAT WERE INCLUDED
AT THE GOVERNOR'S BUDGET, THE
NEXT TIME THAT THESE INVESTMENTS
WILL BE UPDATED WILL BE DURING
THE MAY REVISION PROCESS. MUCH
LIKE THE K-12 SYSTEM, THE
CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY COLLEGES
ARE SUPPORTED BY THE PROPOSITION
98 GENERAL FUND INVESTMENTS.
THESE INVESTMENTS REFLECT
CONTINUED SUPPORT FOR THE
SYSTEM'S MULTIYEAR ROADMAP,
WHICH FOCUSES ON EQUITY, STUDENT
SUCCESS, AND ENHANCING THE
SYSTEM'S ABILITY TO PREPARE
STUDENTS FOR CALIFORNIA'S FUTURE
. THE PROPOSITION 98 INVESTMENTS
FOR THE COMMUNITY COLLEGES
INCLUDED AT THE 2024 GOVERNOR'S
BUDGET INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING
PROGRAMS. THE FIRST INVESTMENT
IS A COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT
OF 0.76% IN THE AMOUNT OF $69.1
MILLION FOR APPORTIONMENTS IS
ACCOMPLISHED THROUGH THE STUDENT
CENTERED FUNDING FORMULA. THIS
ADJUSTMENT IS IMPORTANT FOR
SUSTAINING THE SUPPORT PROVIDED
TO COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICTS
THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH
INCREASED COST PRESSURES IN
EDUCATION DELIVERY. THERE IS
SIMILARLY A COST OF LIVING
ADJUSTMENT ALSO AT THE SAME RATE
OF 0.76% IN AN AMOUNT OF $9.3
MILLION. TO SUPPORT CATEGORICAL
PROGRAMS IN THE ADULT EDUCATION
PROGRAM. INCLUDED WITH THE
GOVERNOR'S BUDGET IS ALSO
SUPPORT FOR A 0.5% ENROLLMENT
GROWTH IN THE AMOUNT OF $29.6
MILLION. THIS IS A TECHNICAL
INVESTMENT THAT WILL ENABLE
DISTRICTS TO GROW THEIR FULL
TIME EQUIVALENT STUDENT NUMBERS.
WHEN A DISTRICT IS EXPERIENCING
INCREASING ENROLLMENT, AND THEN
FINALLY, TO ADJUST TO CHANGES IN
THE PROPOSITION 98 GUARANTEE
WHILE CONTINUING TO PROVIDE
STABILITY TO THE COMMUNITY
COLLEGE SYSTEM, THE GOVERNOR'S
BUDGET UTILIZES THE PROPOSITION
98 RAINY DAY FUND, OTHERWISE
KNOWN AS THE PUBLIC SCHOOL
SYSTEM STABILIZATION ACCOUNT, TO
PROVIDE THESE INVESTMENTS AND
MITIGATE HARM TO COMMUNITY
COLLEGE DISTRICTS. THE FUNDS
WITHDRAWN FROM THIS ACCOUNT WILL
BE USED TO BACKFILL THE
REDUCTIONS INCURRED BY
ADJUSTMENTS TO THE PROPOSITION
98 GUARANTEE IN THE CURRENT
YEAR, AS WELL AS SUPPORT THE
STUDENT CENTERED FUNDING FORMULA
IN THE BUDGET YEAR. THE
COMMUNITY COLLEGES PORTION OF
THE TOTAL PROPOSED PROPOSITION
98 WITHDRAWAL AMOUNTS COME TO
235.9 MILLION IN THE CURRENT
YEAR, AND 486.2 MILLION IN THE
BUDGET YEAR. THAT CONCLUDES MY
OVERVIEW OF THE FISCAL PICTURE
FOR THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE
SYSTEM, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE AT
THE APPROPRIATE TIME. THANK YOU.
THE OFFICE PLEASE. GOOD MORNING
PAUL. GOOD MORNING, PAUL
STEINHAUSEN WITH THE LEGISLATIVE
ANALYST'S OFFICE LAST MONTH YOU
HEARD A DISCUSSION ABOUT
ENROLLMENT. SO MY COMMENTS WILL
FOCUS ON APPORTIONMENTS COST OF
LIVING ADJUSTMENT. AND ANOTHER
ISSUE THAT WANTED TO CALL TO
YOUR ATTENTION AS YOUR AGENDA
NOTES, COMMUNITY COLLEGES DO
FACE A NUMBER OF COST PRESSURES
IN THE BUDGET YEAR. INFLATION
ISN'T AS HIGH AS IT'S BEEN IN
THE LAST FEW YEARS, BUT IT'S
STILL ABOVE THE HISTORICAL
AVERAGE. AS A RESULT, DISTRICTS
ARE LIKELY GOING TO CONTINUE TO
FACING PRESSURE TO PROVIDE
EMPLOYEES WITH SALARY INCREASES.
COLLEGES FACE OTHER COST
PRESSURES, INCLUDING PENSIONS,
HEALTH CARE PREMIUMS, EQUIPMENT,
SUPPLIES AND OTHER COSTS. WE'RE
THE STATE IN A BETTER FISCAL
CONDITION. OUR OFFICE LIKELY
WOULD RECOMMEND TO YOU TO FUND
THE COST OF LIVING, ADJUST AS
PROPOSED IN THE GOVERNOR'S
BUDGET, AS IT IS, THOUGH, EVEN
UNDER THE GOVERNOR'S OWN REVENUE
ESTIMATES IN JANUARY, THE STATE
HAS INSUFFICIENT FUNDS TO COVER
THESE APPORTIONMENT COSTS IN THE
BUDGET YEAR. AND YOU JUST HEARD
THE DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE
ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE GOVERNOR
PROPOSES TO USE $78 MILLION IN
RESERVE MONEY, ONE TIME RESERVE
TO FUND APPORTIONMENT COSTS FOR
A COST OF LIVING, ADJUSTMENT FOR
APPORTIONMENT IN CERTAIN
CATEGORICAL PROGRAMS AND
HISTORICALLY, THE STATE HAS NOT
USED ONE TIME RESERVES TO FUND
ONGOING COSTS. THE COST OF
LIVING ADJUSTMENT IS AN ONGOING
COST, AFTER ALL. DOING SO ADDS
TO THE SIZE OF THE BUDGET
PROBLEM THAT YOU FACE THIS YEAR
AND MAKES BALANCING THE BUDGET
IN FUTURE YEARS EVEN MORE
DIFFICULT. SO WE RECOMMEND THE
LEGISLATURE REJECT THE PROPOSAL,
REVISIT THE ABILITY TO FUND A
COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT NEXT
YEAR. DEPENDING ON THE BUDGET
SITUATION. THÀNH AND I DID WANT
TO CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO AN
ISSUE IN YOUR AGENDA RELATED TO
APPORTIONMENTS IN THE
GOVERNMENT. THAT'S NOT IN THE
GOVERNOR'S BUDGET. AS YOU HEARD
FROM THE FIRST PANEL, AS YOU CAN
SEE IN THE AGENDA, THERE'S A
NUMBER OF COMPONENTS TO THE
STUDENT CENTERED FUNDING
FORMULA, INCLUDING ENROLLMENT
AND SUPPLEMENTAL ACCOUNTS. YOU
HEARD ABOUT LOW INCOME COUNTS.
THE STATE GENERALLY SPECIFIES
WHICH YEAR THESE, ENROLLMENTS
AND STUDENT COUNTS ARE TO BE
REPORTED FOR PURPOSES OF THE
CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE CALCULATING
HOW MUCH FUNDING IS OWED TO
DISTRICTS. THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE
REGULATIONS DO CONTAIN A
LOOPHOLE, HOWEVER, THAT ALLOWS
COLLEGES TO REPORT TWO SUMMERS
WORTH OF ENROLLMENT IN THE SAME
FISCAL YEAR. NOW, ORDINARILY, IN
THE LAST FEW YEARS, DOING SO BY
A COLLEGE DOES NOT REPRESENT A
DOES NOT CREATE A SIGNIFICANT
BUMP IN THEIR FUNDING LEVEL. BUT
DUE TO A NUMBER OF FUNDING
PROTECTIONS DESCRIBED IN YOUR
AGENDA, DISTRICTS DO HAVE A
STRONG INCENTIVE TO REPORT TWO
SUMMERS WORTH OF ENROLLMENT IN
EITHER A 2023 24 OR 20 2425, AND
THAT WOULD RESULT IN ADDITIONAL
COSTS FOR THE STATE TO FUND THE
STUDENT CENTERED FUNDING FORMULA
STARTING NEXT YEAR AND FOR
SEVERAL YEARS AFTERWARD. AND
THESE ARE COSTS THAT ARE NOT
ACCOUNTED FOR IN THE GOVERNOR'S
BUDGET. SO GIVEN THE STATE'S
PROJECTED BUDGET DEFICITS, WE
THINK THIS IS A PARTICULARLY BAD
TIME TO BE RAISING APPORTIONMENT
COSTS AND POTENTIALLY
REDISTRIBUTE REDISTRIBUTING
LIMITED FUNDS TO DISTRICTS THAT
TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS LOOPHOLE.
YOU JUST HEARD FROM THE SPEAKER.
THE LAST SPEAKER ON THE, ON THE
PREVIOUS PANEL, TALK ABOUT ABOUT
ALL THE FUNDING PROTECTIONS THAT
REALLY ARE LIMITING THE AMOUNT
OF MONEY THAT'S AVAILABLE TO
GROWING DISTRICTS. AND THIS IS
AN EXAMPLE WITH THIS SUMMER
LOOPHOLE ALLOWING COLLEGES TO
COUNT TWO SUMMERS WORTH OF
ENROLLMENT IN THE SAME YEAR
DISTORTS ENROLLMENT DATA AS
WELL. SO THE LEGISLATURE FOR
REALLY DOESN'T REALLY KNOW WHAT
ENROLLMENT IS. ONE YEAR OR THE
NEXT, BECAUSE IT COULD BE THE
DISTRICTS ARE JUST COUNTING TWO
SUMMERS WORTH OF ENROLLMENT, ONE
YEAR, SHIFTING IT TO THE NEXT.
SO WE RECOMMEND THE LEGISLATURE
CLOSE THIS SUMMER LOOPHOLE AS
PART OF THE JUNE 24TH BUDGET.
SPECIFY IN STATUTE, SUMMER
ENROLLMENT IS TO BE REPORTED
ONLY ONCE IN EACH FISCAL YEAR.
YOU CAN'T DOUBLE UP. AND IT
WOULD MEAN THAT SUMMER 2024
ENROLLMENT WOULD BE COUNT
COUNTED ONLY IN THE 20 2425
FISCAL YEAR, WHICH WOULD ALIGN
SUMMER ENROLLMENT WITH THE
TIMING OF OTHER COMPONENTS OF
THE STUDENT CENTERED FUNDING
FORMULA AND ELIMINATE A LOOPHOLE
THAT OTHERWISE WOULD DRIVE UP
APPORTIONMENT COSTS OVER THE
NEXT FEW YEARS. SO THANK YOU AND
HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU. WELCOME. GOOD
MORNING, CHAIR ALVAREZ AND
SUBCOMMITTEE MEMBERS, I'M RENA
FINCH. I SERVE AS CALIFORNIA
COMMUNITY COLLEGES VICE
CHANCELLOR OF COLLEGE FINANCE
AND FACILITIES. I APPRECIATE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE SOME
INFORMATION WITH YOU AT TODAY'S
HEARING. AND AGAIN, I WANT TO
JUST EXPRESS THAT COMMUNITY
COLLEGES ARE VERY THANKFUL AND
APPRECIATIVE OF THE STABILITY
AND THE PREDICTABILITY AND
FUNDING THAT WAS PROVIDED IN THE
GOVERNOR'S BUDGET. AND I'M
CONFIDENT THAT WE CAN FIND A
REALLY GOOD PATH FORWARD,
DESPITE OUR REVENUE SHORTFALLS,
I FIRST WANT TO START BY ECHOING
SOME OF THE COMMENTS OF OUR
COLLEAGUES IN THE FIELD YOU JUST
HEARD EARLIER ABOUT THE, YOU
KNOW, THE STRENGTHS AND
WEAKNESSES OF THE STUDENT
CENTERED FUNDING FORMULA. IT'S
REALLY THE CFF HAS REALLY BEEN A
SEA CHANGE FOR HOW OUR SYSTEM
THINKS. IT REALLY SIGNALS THE
PRIORITIES OF BOTH GOVERNOR AND
THE LEGISLATURE IN KEEPING ALL
OF OUR DECISIONS AT WITH
STUDENTS AT THE CENTER OF ALL
OUR DESIGN, PLANNING, STRATEGY
AND DECISION MAKING AND REALLY
REMOVING SOME OF THE BARRIERS
AND THEN PROVIDING THOSE
INCENTIVES TO DOING THE RIGHT
THING FOR OUR STUDENTS, BECAUSE
THE FORMULA WAS IMPLEMENTED, NOT
VERY LONG AGO, REALLY, JUST IN
2018 WITH A WONDERFUL WORLDWIDE
PANDEMIC KIND OF TO THROW OFF
ALL OF OUR DATA. YOU KNOW, WE DO
THINK IT'S A LITTLE SOON TO MAKE
ANY FINAL JUDGMENTS OR, YOU
KNOW, MAKE STRONG CONCLUSIONS
FROM THE STUDENT CENTERED
FUNDING FORMULA. AND THAT ANY
CONSIDERATIONS OF HOW WE CAN
ADJUST IT TO IMPROVE IT REALLY
SHOULD BE THOUGHTFUL, SHOULD BE
DONE OVER TIME, SHOULD BE DONE
WITH MODELING AND DONE WITH A
LOT OF INPUT FROM OUR
STAKEHOLDER GROUPS AND OUR OUR
COLLEGE LEADERS, PARTICULARLY
ALSO THE SUMMER SHIFT. TÔI ALL
THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO US IN
LEGISLATION, IT'S REALLY PART OF
A LONGER TERME DECISION MAKING
PROCESS. I WANT TO TELL YOU A
LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHERE OUR
DISTRICTS ARE AT COMING INTO
THIS YEAR, IN 20 2223, THE
STATEWIDE AVERAGE, OF
UNRESTRICTED OPERATING
EXPENDITURES FOR SALARIES AND
BENEFITS, SALARIES, WAGES AND
BENEFITS WAS ABOUT 88% FOR OUR
SYSTEM. SO THAT LEAVES ONLY
ABOUT 12% AVAILABLE TO COVER
OTHER OPERATIONAL COST
INCREASES, RAPIDLY RISING
UTILITY COSTS, BUILDING
MAINTENANCE AND UPGRADES, AND
ESSENTIAL STUDENT SERVICES, MANY
OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS,
BECAUSE OF OUR LARGE COLAS, MANY
LOCAL COLLECTIVE BARGAINING
AGREEMENTS REFLECT ONGOING
SALARY AND WAGE INCREASES BASED
ON THOSE VERY ROSY COLAS WHICH
PLACES PERMANENT, ONGOING COST
PRESSURES ON OUR DISTRICTS, YOU
KNOW WHICH WILL WORSEN AS IF
STATE FUNDING IS TO DECLINE. SO
RIGHT NOW, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT
FOR ALL OF OUR DISTRICTS TO BE
VERY CAREFULLY REVIEWING THEIR
MULTIYEAR PROJECTIONS FOR
REVENUES AND EXPENSES AND
GEARING UP TO WEATHER ANY
POTENTIAL DEFERRALS THAT MAY
COME DOWN AS THEY HAVE IN OTHER
YEARS AND OTHER FUNDING
ADJUSTMENTS, I WANT TO TALK
AGAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT
THE SUMMER SHIFT TOOL. IT'S
REALLY A FINANCIAL PLANNING TOOL
THAT'S BEEN LONG ESTABLISHED IN
STATUTE. IT PREDATES THE STUDENT
CENTERED FUNDING FORMULA, AND IT
WAS REAFFIRMED AND CONTINUED IN
STATUTE BY THE LEGISLATURE WHEN
THE STUDENT CENTERED FUNDING
FORMULA WAS ESTABLISHED.
DISTRICTS RELY ON THIS FOR
MULTIYEAR PLANNING. SO ANY
CHANGES TO THIS REALLY NEED TO
BE DESIGNED TO TAKE EFFECT IN
OUT YEARS SO THAT DISTRICTS CAN
HAVE THE TIME TO REACT
APPROPRIATELY AND CHANGE THEIR
LONG TERME, PLANNING IN YOUR
AGENDA, THERE'S IS LANGUAGE
SUGGESTING THAT DISTRICTS MIGHT
BE GENERATING UP TO 20% OF THEIR
FTES DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS,
SUBJECT TO THE SUMMER SHIFT, SO
WE DON'T COLLECT SPECIFIC DATA
ON THIS, BUT I CAN SHARE WITH
YOU ANECDOTALLY THAT WHEN I'VE
TALKED TO LEADERS FROM THE
ASSOCIATION OF CHIEF BUSINESS
OFFICIALS, THOSE LEADERS MOST OF
THEM WERE SAYING THEY'RE NOT
EVEN USING SUMMER SHIFT AND THAT
IT'S REALLY MORE LIKE A 3 TO 5%
AMOUNT OF FTES THAT WE'RE
LOOKING AT. SO, YOU KNOW, I
REALIZE THAT'S ANECDOTAL, BUT IT
JUST SPEAKS TO HOW THIS REALLY
NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S
THOUGHTFUL. LONG TERME WITH SOME
TIME PUT INTO TIME AND MODELING
PUT INTO IT BEHIND IT, SO WITH
THAT, I JUST, YOU KNOW, I'M
HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS, AS YOU
HAVE THEM AND, REALLY
APPRECIATIVE FOR THE FUNDING
THAT WE'VE BEEN PROVIDED. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU ALL, I THINK I'LL
ASK THE FIRST PANEL TO JOIN
MAYBE TWO SEATS HERE AND MAYBE
THE LÀ WANT TO JUMP UP TO THE
DAIS HERE. SO WE HAVE ENOUGH
SEATS. THANK YOU. OKAY SORRY.
I'LL ASK, MR. FONG TO KICK US
OFF FIRST FOR A SET OF
QUESTIONS. THANK YOU SO MUCH,
CHAIR ALVAREZ. AND THANK YOU SO
MUCH TO ALL THE PANELISTS FOR
THE INSIGHTS AND, UPDATES
REGARDING THE APPORTIONMENT AND
THE STUDENT CENTERED, FUNDING
FORMULA, THIS QUESTION IS FOR
THE CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE, WHAT
HAS BEEN AN IMPACT OF THE
STUDENT CENTERED FUNDING
FORMULA? HAVE WE BEEN ABLE TO
MAKE ASSESSMENTS, GIVEN THAT
DISTRICTS HAVE BEEN HELD
HARMLESS SINCE THE ENACTMENT OF
THE FUNDING FORMULA? AND THEN
ALSO, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE
STUDENT SUCCESS OUTCOMES AND
DIFFERENT METRICS, HAVE WE BEEN
ABLE TO COLLECT THAT DATA AND
HOW DOES THAT IMPACT, THE
SUCCESS OF STUDENTS, GOING
FORWARD? YEAH. THANK YOU FOR
THAT QUESTION. SO AS I MENTIONED
EARLIER, THE IMPACT IS REALLY IN
HOW WE THINK ABOUT SERVING OUR
STUDENTS. WE HAVE, WE REALLY
HAVE PUT THEM AT THE CENTER FOR
ALL OF THOSE SUCCESS OUTCOMES,
THINKING ABOUT HOW WE CHANGE OUR
OPERATIONS IN ORDER TO, YOU
KNOW, TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE
GETTING STUDENTS IN THE DOOR,
WHICH YOU CAN'T HAVE A
SUCCESSFUL OUTCOME UNTIL THEY'RE
IN THE DOOR, WE'RE DOING
EVERYTHING WE CAN TO GET THEM
THOSE, GET THEM THE FINANCIAL
AID THEY DESERVE, SUPPORT THEIR
BASIC NEEDS, AND MAKE SURE THEY
MAKE IT TO THOSE SUCCESSFUL
OUTCOMES, SOME OF THE EXAMPLES
OF THINGS THAT COLLEGES HAVE ARE
DOING IS, BEING VERY CAREFUL
ABOUT UPDATING THEIR COST OF
ATTENDANCE EVERY YEAR, THAT'S
THE COST OF ATTENDANCE IS THE
FIGURE THAT'S CAN DETERMINE HOW
MUCH FEDERAL FINANCIAL AID A
STUDENT IS ELIGIBLE FOR, ANOTHER
AREA THAT COLLEGES ARE REALLY
MAKING STRIDES IS AROUND,
STUDENT CENTERED COURSE
SCHEDULING, REALLY THINKING
ABOUT WHEN STUDENTS NEED THESE
COURSES AND IN WHAT MODALITY,
WHETHER IT'S AN ONLINE HYBRID OR
IN PERSON, WE'VE ALSO PUT A LOT
OF THINKING INTO WHAT ARE THE
BASIC NEEDS SUPPORT SPECIFICALLY
THAT STUDENTS NEED. AND, YOU
KNOW, YOU'LL SEE THAT WE'RE
REALLY FOCUSED IN ON MENTAL
HEALTH ON CAL FRESH,
AVAILABILITY, ON RAPID
REHOUSING, ON AFFORDABLE STUDENT
HOUSING PROGRAM, YOU KNOW, SO
MANY JUST THINKING ABOUT THE
STUDENT AS A WHOLE PERSON AND
WHAT THEY NEED TO ACTUALLY MAKE
IT TO THE FINISH LINE. THAT
THINKING IS THE ULTIMATE AS FAR
AS THE METRICS, I'M ALSO VERY
GLAD YOU ASKED THAT. WE HAVE A
REALLY GREAT TOOL ON OUR WEBSITE
THAT'S CALLED THE ANALYSIS OF
COUNTS AND PATTERNS ACROSS THE
SQF, AND THAT WILL SHOW YOU FOR
EACH METRIC, AND, AND EITHER BY
A DISTRICT OR BY STATEWIDE OR A
COMPARISON, A THREE YEAR TREND
OF EVERY METRIC WHERE IT'S BEEN
GOING. AND THEN ALSO THE AMOUNT
OF FUNDING RECEIVED FOR THAT
METRIC. SO SO YOU CAN TAKE A
LOOK AT THAT AND REALLY SEE,
WHERE, WHERE IT'S IN A NICE
VISUAL DASHBOARD SO YOU CAN SEE
WHERE DISTRICTS ARE DOING REALLY
WELL, WHERE HAVE THEY BEEN
MAKING GAINS AND HOW CAN THEY
DOUBLE DOWN ON THAT. AND THEN
YOU CAN ALSO SEE WHERE THEY'RE
FLAT OR WHERE THEY'VE BEEN
DECLINING BY EACH INDIVIDUAL
METRIC. AND SO THEY CAN SEE
WHERE THEY CAN PUT ADDITIONAL
EFFORT. THAT'S ALSO FOR OUR
SUCCESS OUTCOMES. IT'S ALSO
BROKEN OUT BY RACE AND ETHNICITY
. SO WE HAVE THAT EQUITY
COMPONENT TO THAT ANALYSIS AS
WELL, YOU KNOW WE DO SEE THAT
OVERALL IT'S, YOU KNOW, KIND OF
MIXED ACROSS THE STATE. BUT IT'S
A NEW FORMULA. AND OUR WAY OF
THINKING AROUND IT, I THINK IS
GOING TO SEE LONG TUM SUCCESS,
WHERE THE STUDENT CENTERED
FUNDING FORMULA. THANK YOU. AND
THEN IN TERMS OF THE CONTEXT OF
URBAN VERSUS RURAL DISTRICTS,
HOW IS THE STUDENT CENTERED
FUNDING FORMULA IMPACTED THAT?
RIGHT, SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, YOU
HEARD THE POINT EARLIER THAT,
THAT SOME OF OUR DISTRICTS ARE
IN MUCH HIGHER COST AREAS. AND
THAT IS TRUE, YOU KNOW, IT'S A
LOT CHEAPER TO GET AN APARTMENT,
SAY, IN CHICO, CALIFORNIA, THEN
IT'S GOING TO BE IN SAN DIEGO.
RIGHT? SO YOUR COST OF LIVING IS
DIFFERENT. WHAT WE DEFINITELY
ENCOURAGE, AS I MENTIONED
EARLIER, IS MAKING SURE YOUR
COST OF ATTENDANCE, YOUR
OFFICIAL COST OF ATTENDANCE IS
UPDATED SO YOU CAN DRAW DOWN AS
MUCH FEDERAL FINANCIAL AID, BUT
WE DO SEE THAT, YOU KNOW,
CERTAIN CERTAIN REGIONS AND
CERTAIN DISTRICTS ARE CLEARLY
EASILY MORE IDENTIFIABLE,
IDENTIFIABLE AS REGIONS OF HIGH
NEED BASED ON THEIR COST OF
LIVING. AND, YOU KNOW, THE MORE
STUDENTS SHOW UP AS BEING IN THE
POVERTY LEVEL, THEY'RE. AND THEN
IN TERMS OF THE SUCCESS FORMULA,
I KNOW WHEN WE LOOKED AT PAGE
THREE, IT'S AT 11. WHEN A
STUDENT CENTERED FUNDING FORMULA
IS FIRST, ORIGINATED AND THOUGHT
OF WHAT WAS THAT GOAL, WE
STARTED OUT WITH, 70 2010,
CORRECT? YEAH AND SO BUT THAT
WAS TO SET THE RATES. AND SO
ONCE THE RATES WERE SET FOR
EVERY INDIVIDUAL METRIC, WE'VE
REALLY JUST BEEN APPLYING THE
COLA TO THE RATE ITSELF. AND
THEN DISTRICTS HAVE THE
INCENTIVE TO EARN ALL ACROSS
THOSE METRICS. SO IN TERMS OF
THE SUPPLEMENTAL, THEN WHEN WE
LOOK AT THE 14.9, IS THAT
SOMETHING THAT WE CAN SEE GOING
FORWARD? WE KNOW THAT'S BASED ON
LOW INCOME STUDENT ENROLLMENT,
BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I
THINK, WILL BE A FIX FOR THE
HIGH COST OF, AND HIGH COST
LIVING AREAS. IT'S DEFINITELY
SOMETHING TO LOOK AT AGAIN. YOU
KNOW, WE'D WANT TO SEE SOME LONG
TERME MODELING AND, BE ABLE TO
RUN PROJECTIONS ON IT BEFORE WE
MAKE FINAL DECISIONS. OKAY THANK
YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR THE
CONTEXT THAT THE SUCCESS METRICS
ARE ON THE WEBSITE. TAKE A LOOK
AT THAT. AND I KNOW YOU PUT THAT
IN THE, PAGE THREE AS WELL. BUT
I THINK THAT'S, WHEN WE LOOK AT
THE DIFFERENT COLLEGE DISTRICTS
UP AND DOWN THE STATE, I THINK,
IN TERMS OF THE CERTIFICATE
OUTCOMES, THE TRANSFERS, THE
COMPLETION OF TRANSFER LEVEL
COURSES, THE, THE METRICS ARE
BEING CRITICAL IN TERMS OF HOW
THIS FORMULA HAS IMPACTED
STUDENT SUCCESS. SO I THINK
REALLY GOING FORWARD, TAKING A
DEEPER DIVE AND REALLY LOOKING
AT THE AREAS THAT HAVE REALLY
IMPACTED DIFFERENT DISTRICTS
THAT HAVE REALLY, HAD A
SUCCESSFUL MODELING ON THIS AND
HOW WE CAN CONTINUE TO SPREAD
THAT ACROSS THE STATE. SO I
REALLY WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOME
ADDITIONAL ANALYSIS AND DATA
AROUND THAT. THANK YOU, MR.
CHAIR. THANK YOU. LET ME ASK A
FEW QUESTIONS, AND THEY'RE GOING
TO BE A LITTLE BIT ALL OVER THE
BOARD, SO I APOLOGIZE, BUT I
TAKE NOTES AND QUESTIONS COME UP
ON THIS ISSUE OF THE, DIFFERENT
REGIONS HAVE DIFFERENT COSTS OF
LIVING. THE CHANCELLOR FROM SAN
DIEGO, MENTIONED SOMETHING, AND
MAYBE YOU YOU CAN RESPOND, MR.
SMITH, AND THEN ELIO AND FINANCE
MAYBE CAN HELP ME. THE YOU
MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT THE
50% OF A SOME FUNDING THAT IS
SET ASIDE DOESN'T DOESN'T GO TO
A STUDENT BASIC NEEDS. IT GOES
TO THE CLASSROOM. CAN YOU TELL
ME MORE ABOUT THAT AND OTHERS,
CHIME IN AS YOU THINK CAN HELP
ME UNDERSTAND, WHAT WHAT THAT
THAT'S ABOUT. YEAH. SO UNDER
LAW, 50% OF OUR GENERAL
UNRESTRICTED FUNDING, OUR TOTAL
COMPUTATIONAL REVENUE HAS TO BE
SPENT ON INSTRUCTIONAL RELATED
EXPENSES. THE MAJORITY OF THAT,
AS YOU HEARD VICE CHANCELLOR
FINCH TALK ABOUT THE, COMP
COSTS, YOU KNOW, OVER 88% OF
THAT IS GOING TO BE INSTRUCTOR
SALARIES, BENEFITS IN THE
CLASSROOM, INSTRUCTIONAL
ASSISTANTS IN THE CLASSROOMS,
AND CLASSIFIED PROFESSIONALS.
BUT WE CANNOT SPEND THOSE
DOLLARS ON NON INSTRUCTIONAL
PURPOSES. REYES. SO WHEN THE
STUDENT CENTERED FUNDING FORMULA
SHIFTED SOME OF OUR FUNDING TO
BE DIRECTLY RESPONSIVE TO THE
NUMBER OF STUDENTS WHO ARE
QUALIFY AS LOW INCOME, WE STILL
HAVE TO SPEND 50% OF THOSE
DOLLARS IN THE CLASSROOM. THE
CHALLENGES FOR THOSE STUDENTS
ISN'T IN THE CLASSROOM. IT'S
OUTSIDE. AND SO IT REALLY LIMITS
OUR ABILITY TO MAKE FULL USE OF
THAT FUNDING AND MEET THE FULL
INTENT OF THE STUDENT CENTERED
FUNDING FORMULA TO DRIVE
RESOURCES WHERE THE GREATEST
NEEDS ARE FOR STUDENTS. THANK
YOU. AND THAT THAT, GENERAL
UNRESTRICTED FUNDING RULE OF THE
50% THAT EXISTED PRIOR TO, CHEF.
CORRECT. OKAY. AND WAS IT EVER
DISCUSSED, I DON'T KNOW WHO WAS
PART OF DISCUSSIONS WITH CHEF
THAT'S IN THE ROOM LEFT HERE,
BUT WAS THAT EVER SORT OF
CONTEMPLATED MAYBE THE LÀ
OFFICE. SURE PAUL STEINORTH
AGAIN WITH THE ANALYST'S OFFICE
THIS IS THIS LAW. THIS 50% LAW
ACTUALLY DATES BACK TO 1960. SO
IT'S BEEN ON THE BOOKS A LONG
TIME, 50, AT LEAST 50% OF
APPORTIONMENT FUNDS. GENERAL
PURPOSE OR UNRESTRICTED FUNDS
HAVE TO BE SPENT ON SALARIES AND
BENEFITS OF IN CLASSROOM
FACULTY. SO THAT GOES IN THE
NUMERATOR. IN THE NUMERATOR, THE
DENOMINATOR IS ALL STAFF
SALARIES AND BENEFITS, INCLUDING
COUNSELORS, INCLUDING TECHNOLOGY
, UTILITIES, ALL THOSE COSTS.
AND SO THE ISSUE IS THAT
DISTRICTS SEEM TO BE STRUGGLING
MORE AND MORE WITH MAKING THAT
50% MARK. AND IF THEY DON'T,
THEY'RE ACTUALLY ASSESSED A
PENALTY, A FINANCIAL PENALTY,
MOST DISTRICTS ARE RIGHT AROUND
50% NOW. AND SO THE ISSUE IS, IF
THEY HAD AN ADDITIONAL, SAY,
MILLION DOLLARS, THIS IS WHAT
CHANCELLOR SMITH WAS KIND OF
REFERENCING. IF THE DISTRICT
WERE TO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL
MILLION DOLLARS IN FUNDING AND
THEY WERE AT 50% ALREADY, HALF
OF THAT HAS TO GO TO CLASSROOM
COSTS, EVEN IF THEY DETERMINE
THAT, BOY, WE'D REALLY LIKE
ANOTHER COUNSELOR. IT WOULD BE
GREAT TO DO, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING
MORE WITH STUDENT SUPPORT
SERVICES, SO THIS IS AND TO
ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THIS IS
THIS HAS BEEN AN ONGOING
DISCUSSION. IT'S REALLY, AN
ISSUE YOU HEAR A LOT OF A UNION,
A FACULTY, UNIONS, FACULTY ON
THE ONE HAND, AND YOU HAVE
ADMINISTRATORS AND SUPPORT STAFF
ON THE OTHER. VERY CONTENTIOUS
ISSUE, I'VE BEEN, ON AND OFF
WITH THIS ASSIGNMENT FOR A
NUMBER OF YEARS, AND THERE HAVE
BEEN A NUMBER OF WORK GROUPS AND
COMMITTEES WITHIN THE COMMUNITY
COLLEGE SYSTEM, I HAVE NOT SEEN
ANYTHING THAT THAT EVERYONE CAN
AGREE TO. BUT AGAIN, IT IS
STATUTE. IT IS STATUTE. SO
LEGISLATURE HAS THAT ABILITY.
THANK YOU. THAT GIVES ME A GREAT
CONTEXT. IT ALSO SORT OF PUTS IT
IN CONTEXT OF THIS. I THINK AT
LEAST THREE OF YOU SAID, WE NEED
TO DO LONG TERME MODELING,
ANALYSIS OF IF WE ARE REVISITING
SQF, I THINK THERE'S PERHAPS A
TONE IN THE AGENDA. AND AMONG A
LOT OF YOU THAT I'VE SPOKEN TO
OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS,
THAT, IT IS WORTHWHILE US
CONSIDERING REVISITING. AND SO I
THINK THIS ALL SORT OF, IS OF
INTEREST AS IT RELATES. IT
RELATES TO THAT, I HEARD THE
CONCERN OF, YOU DON'T WANT TO BE
SURPRISED, THE LEGISLATURE NEVER
SURPRISES YOU WITH LAST MINUTE
DEALS ON, FUNDING, I DON'T KNOW
WHERE YOU GET THAT IDEA FROM,
BUT, BUT, BUT THAT TAKES ME TO
THE ISSUE OF THE SUMMER
ENROLLMENT. I DO WANT TO ASK
ABOUT THIS, BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND
YOU DON'T WANT TO SURPRISE
FOLKS. CERTAINLY IN THE
IMMEDIATE, BUT THE
RECOMMENDATION FROM THE
LEGISLATIVE ANALYST'S OFFICE IS
ON, ESSENTIALLY IMPLEMENTING
THIS FOR SUMMER OF 2025, NOT FOR
THIS NEXT YEAR. SUMMER. I KNOW
THE CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE,
CALIFORNIA CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE,
EXPRESSED, THAT THERE IS SOME
ANECDOTAL DATA. I DON'T KNOW IF
THE LAW OR FINANCE HAS ANY
ADDITIONAL DATA ON HOW MANY
DISTRICTS ARE USING THIS SUMMER
FOR, LET'S CALL IT A LOOPHOLE
MANEUVER OR WHATEVER IT IS. DO
WE DOES FINANCE HAVE ANY DATA ON
THAT? CHRIS FERGUSON WITH THE
DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE, WE DON'T
HAVE ANY SPECIFIC DATA ON IT.
BUT ANECDOTALLY, WHEN WE WERE
CREATING THE FORMULA, IT LOOKED
TO BE AROUND 60 TO 65 DISTRICTS
IN THE STATE WERE USING THIS
TOOL TO MAXIMIZE REVENUES, THEY
HAD BEEN DOING SO FOR MULTIPLE
YEARS WITH ABOUT HALF IN IN THE
STABILITY PROTECTIONS IN EVERY
OTHER YEAR, SO DEFINITELY HAVE
SEEN IT AS PART OF THE
DISCUSSIONS AROUND THE STUDENT
CENTERED FUNDING FORMULA. IT WAS
A SPECIFIC INTENTION THAT WE NOT
UNDO THAT AS PART OF THE
FORMULA, BUT CERTAINLY WE'RE
ALWAYS OPEN TO CONVERSATIONS
AROUND WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE
IF THAT'S THE WILL AND THE
DESIRE. OKAY. I'D BE INTERESTED
IN THE DECISION OF NOT TO CLOSE
THE LOOPHOLE OR CORRECT IT, DOES
THE LAO HAVE ANY FURTHER TO ADD
BESIDES WHAT WAS SHARED? SURE. I
WOULD JUST LIKE TO MENTION A
COUPLE OF THINGS. FIRST, IF YOU
GO BACK TO THE DISCUSSIONS
AROUND THE STUDENT CENTERED
FUNDING FORMULA, BACK IN 2018,
THERE ACTUALLY WAS A LOT OF
CONSENSUS ABOUT DOING AWAY WITH
THE SUMMER SHIFT, EVEN AMONG
AGENCIES AT. WE'RE NOT AWARE OF
WHY ULTIMATELY, THAT DIDN'T
HAPPEN. PERHAPS AT THE TIME IT
WAS THOUGHT THAT THE SUMMER
SHIFT WOULDN'T HAVE AS BIG OF AN
IMPACT UNDER THE STUDENT
CENTERED FUNDING FORMULA. AS
YOUR AGENDA NOTES. FOR MOST
ENROLLMENT, IT'S A THREE YEAR
ROLLING AVERAGE. RIGHT? AND SO
MAYBE THE THOUGHT WAS AT THE
TIME, IF DISTRICTS MOVE SOME
SUMMER TO ONE YEAR TO THE NEXT,
IT'S GOING TO BE KIND OF DILUTED
THE IMPACT BECAUSE OF THIS THREE
YEAR AVERAGE. SO THAT THAT'S
THAT'S POSSIBLE, BUT WHAT MY
POINT WAS, IN MY REMARKS IS THAT
BECAUSE OF THE FUNDING
PROTECTIONS THAT ARE IN PLACE,
BECAUSE OF THE UNIQUE PLACE THE
COLLEGES ARE RIGHT NOW, THERE
ACTUALLY IS A PRETTY STRONG
INCENTIVE FOR COLLEGES TO USE
THE SUMMER SHIFT. THEY'RE GOING
TO SEE A BUMP IN ENROLLMENT.
I'VE TALKED TO A NUMBER OF
DISTRICTS THAT ARE PLANNING OR
HOPING TO USE IT. THEY KIND OF
REALIZE THAT IT'S THEY'RE
GETTING FUNDING FOR STUDENTS
THAT ARE ACTUALLY NOT THERE.
THEY'RE JUST KIND OF GAMING,
GAMING. I MEAN, IT'S LEGAL. IT'S
THEY'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING
ILLEGAL. BUT THEY'RE SORT OF
GAMING IT TO MAXIMIZE REVENUE.
BUT IT'S NOT TIED TO ACTUAL
STUDENTS, THAT SAID, I'VE SPOKEN
WITH DISTRICTS WHO ARE PLANNING
TO USE IT. THE CHANCELLOR'S
OFFICE CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY,
THOUGH, BECAUSE THEY BECAUSE
DISTRICTS ACTUALLY DON'T REPORT
THAT TO THE CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE.
YOU KIND OF HAVE TO BE A LITTLE
DETECTIVE, AND LOOK TO SEE.
THAT'S INTERESTING THAT THAT
THIS AMOUNT WENT DOWN OR THIS
WENT UP. AND SO YOU CAN KIND OF
BACK KIND OF INFER IT, BUT IT'S
NOT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE HARD
DATA ON. OKAY AT THE MINIMUM, I
WOULD SUGGEST AS OUR CONSULTANT
TAKES NOTES, REPORTING
REQUIREMENT IN THIS YEAR'S
BUDGET, TO AT LEAST IDENTIFY
WHAT THIS IS AND THEN,
POTENTIALLY INCLUDE IT AS PART
OF DISCUSSIONS, STUDENT CENTERED
FORMULA, TO THE TO THE FINANCE,
I'LL ASK ONE MORE AND THEN TURN
IT OVER TO COLLEAGUE, I DO HAVE
A FEW OTHER QUESTIONS, BUT,
MAYBE JUST A GENERAL STATEMENT
BEFORE I ASK THIS LAST QUESTION.
SO I DON'T FORGET THE
UTILIZATION OF RESERVES FOR
ONGOING EXPENDITURES. DEFINITELY
NOT SOMETHING, THAT I THINK IS
GOOD TO DO, GIVEN THE MULTIYEAR
ISSUES THAT WE HAVE. SO I THINK
THAT'S SOMETHING TO LOOK AT FOR
THE BUDGET, THE LAST ONE WHICH
IS RELATED TO ALL THIS, AGAIN,
I'M GOING A LITTLE BIT IN
CIRCLES HERE, BUT THE DISTRICTS
RECEIVING AS I NOTED IN THE
AGENDA, AND I'VE SEEN SOME OF
THE DATA FROM THE CHANCELLOR'S
OFFICE MYSELF, THAT THERE ARE
DISTRICTS RECEIVING SOME CLOSE
TO $20,000 PER STUDENT AND SOME
DISTRICTS RECEIVING, UNDER
$10,000 PER STUDENT, SO IF YOU
JUST USE THAT AS A METRIC, THE
FUNDING FORMULA JUST SEEMS IT
JUST DOESN'T SEEM TO HAVE, ANY
KIND OF PARITY, IF YOU WILL. AND
MAYBE IT'S NOT DELIVERING THE
RESULTS IN TERMS OF THE SUPPORT
STUDENTS NEED, SO I GUESS THE
QUESTION IS TO, TO THE
CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE. I ASSUME
YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE AND LÀ
WELCOME, SORRY. FINANCE. WELCOME
TO ALSO, CHIME IN. IS IT JUST A
FUNCTION OF THE FORMULA AND HOLD
HARMLESS OR WHY DO WE SEE THESE
LARGE DISPARITIES FROM DISTRICTS
LITERALLY TWICE AS MUCH IN ONE
DISTRICT VERSUS ANOTHER IN TERMS
OF SUPPORT THAT DISTRICTS ARE
RECEIVING? YES. THANK YOU. I, I
WOULD SAY THAT THE CAUSE OF THAT
REALLY HAS MORE TO DO WITH THE
PANDEMIC AND THE PANDEMIC
SPECIFIC PROTECTIONS THAT WE PUT
IN PLACE. CERTAINLY THE HOLD
HARMLESS PLAYS A PART, BUT FOR
SEVERAL YEARS WE HAD AN
EMERGENCY CONDITIONS ALLOWANCE
WHERE WE WERE FUNDING DISTRICTS
FOR THE LEVEL OF FTES THEY HAD
IN 20 1819. RIGHT. AND THEY WERE
SERVING SIGNIFICANTLY FEWER
STUDENTS. SO AS DISTRICTS GROW
BACK, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THAT
DISPARITY. I THINK YOU'RE GOING
TO SEE THAT DISPARITY SHRINK.
BUT WE STILL BECAUSE OF THAT
THREE YEAR AVERAGE, WE STILL
HAVE A LOT OF DISTRICTS BEING
FUNDED, FOR STUDENTS, THEY NEVER
SERVED. SO THEREFORE THEIR PER
ACTUAL STUDENT FUNDING IS A LOT
GREATER IN THAT CASE. DOES THAT
THEN MEAN BECAUSE I WANT TO
ANSWER THE OR AT LEAST
ACKNOWLEDGE THE QUESTION OF THE
DISTRICTS THAT ARE GROWING, LOS
RIOS BEING ONE OF THEM? THAT IF
THIS SHIFT IS OCCURRING AND THIS
AVERAGING OUT IS CORRECTING
ITSELF, IF YOU WILL, THAT THEN
FUNDING IS GOING TO BE MADE,
MORE FUNDING WILL BE MADE
AVAILABLE TO DISTRICTS THAT ARE
ACTUALLY EXPERIENCING GROWTH.
WILL WE ACTUALLY SEE THAT
HAPPENING? AND IS THAT YOUR
EXPECTATION TO THE TO THE
SYSTEMS, TO THE DISTRICTS
THEMSELVES, WOULD BE THE
QUESTION I CAN ANSWER, SO I
THINK THAT WILL POSSIBLY HAPPEN
AND SOME IT IT'S GOING TO BE TWO
THINGS. I THINK THE REALITY IS
THE PANDEMIC DID CREATE SOME,
REDUCTION IN ENROLLMENTS, BUT
BUT NOT ALL THAT'S COMING BACK.
AND THAT THE REASON IT'S COMING
BACK IS BECAUSE OF POPULATION
CHANGES. AND SO I THINK PART OF
THE ANSWER IS, YEAH, THE ONCE
THE PANDEMIC PROTECTIONS RUN
OUT, THE EMERGENCY CONDITIONS
ALLOWANCE RUNS OUT. YOU'RE GOING
TO SEE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES MADE
AVAILABLE BY THE STATE THAT THEY
CAN REINVEST THAT IN THE
APPORTIONMENT AND THE STUDENT
CENTERED FUNDING FORMULA. BUT
PART OF IT'S NOT PART OF IT'S
THE FACT THAT PEOPLE ARE LEAVING
HIGH COST AREAS AND MOVING TO
LOWER COST AREAS. AND SO THE
QUESTION I THINK FOR THE STATE
IS, IS GOING TO BE OVER TIME,
HOW TO HOW TO WITH A SMALLER POT
FOR COMMUNITY COLLEGES AND PROP
98, HOW DO WE ALLOCATE THOSE
RESOURCES TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE
SUPPORTING WHERE STUDENTS ARE,
NOT WHERE THEY WERE. AND SO
THAT'S KIND OF SO I THINK
PARTIALLY IT'S GOING TO HELP.
BUT THERE'S ALSO A PART OF IT
THAT'S THE HOLD. HARMLESS IS
STILL GOING TO HOLD PEOPLE AND
I'D LIKE TO PROVIDE SOME MORE
DETAIL ON THAT TOO. SO YOU KNOW,
WE ABSOLUTELY BELIEVE THAT FULLY
FUNDING DISTRICTS FOR THE
ENROLLMENT GROWTH THAT THEY
ACTUALLY RECEIVE AND THEY WORK
SO HARD FOR, IT'S THE RIGHT
THING TO DO, BUT IT'S I THINK
IT'S UNLIKELY THAT EVERY HIGH
GROWTH DISTRICT IS GOING TO BE
ABLE TO COLLECT FULL FUNDING FOR
ENROLLMENT GROWTH IN EVERY AREA,
THIS IS BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE
STUDENT CENTERED FUNDING FORMULA
IS DESIGNED. IT ULTIMATELY
DEPENDS ON THE AMOUNT OF GROWTH,
FUNDING SPECIFICALLY PROVIDED IN
EACH YEAR'S BUDGET FROM THE
STATE AND WHETHER A DISTRICT IS
EXPERIENCING GROWTH THAT EXCEEDS
10% OF THEIR PRIOR YEAR BASE
FTES. THAT 10% CAP IS SET IN
STATUTE AS PART OF THE GROWTH
FORMULA. SO I REALLY WANT TO
SHARE AN EXAMPLE OF HOW GROWTH
FUNDING WAS IMPACTED IN THIS
CURRENT YEAR. IN 23, 24, AT OUR
APPORTIONMENT, CYCLE IN
FEBRUARY, THE STATE GENERAL
APPORTIONMENT AND THE GROWTH
FUNDING THAT WAS PROVIDED WAS
NOT ENOUGH TO FULLY FUND OUR
FULL DISTRICT'S TCR. SO THEY
HAVE A SHORT TOTAL COMPUTATIONAL
REVENUE FROM THE STUDENT
CENTERED FUNDING FALL FORMULA.
THEY HAVE A SHORTFALL OF ABOUT
3.5. IT'S ABOUT $310 MILLION,
AND THAT'S DUE PARTIALLY TO A
LOT OF GROWTH IN THE SYSTEM, AND
PARTIALLY BECAUSE OUR ESTIMATES
OF PROPERTY TAX ARE LOWER RIGHT
NOW THIS YEAR. SO SOME OF THESE
ESTIMATES AS THEY BECOME ACTUAL
FACTORS WILL RESOLVE THEMSELVES.
BUT THE FACT IS WE HAVE SEVERAL
DISTRICTS. WE ACTUALLY HAVE 14
DISTRICTS THAT REPORTED FTES.
GROWTH NEED BEYOND THEIR GROWTH
FUNDING FORMULA TARGET AND OVER
THAT 10% GROWTH CAP THAT'S
CURRENTLY IN STATUTE. SO THAT
WAS ABOUT 5000 FTES OR 29
MILLION, WHERE OUR DISTRICTS ARE
DOING THE RIGHT THING. BUT OUR
OUR SYSTEM CONSTRAINS THEM FROM
BEING FUNDED. I UNDERSTAND THAT,
BUT I ASKED FINANCE TO GIVE ME A
LITTLE IN CONTEXT. WE DO HAVE
DISTRICTS THAT DON'T HAVE THAT
GROWTH AND YET THE APPORTIONMENT
IS STILL OCCURRING. AND SO HELP
ME UNDERSTAND HOW WE'RE GOING TO
ENSURE THAT THOSE THAT DO HAVE
GROWTH, EVEN IF THEY DON'T,
AREN'T ELIGIBLE FOR THAT,
INCREASE HOW WE'RE GOING TO
CREATE MORE EQUITY IN TERMS OF,
FINANCIAL EQUITY, IN TERMS OF
BEING ABLE TO ACHIEVE, THE TYPE
OF, TO RECEIVE THE TYPE OF
SUPPORTS THAT THEY NEED TO
ENSURE THAT THAT GROWTH HAS IS,
THERE'S, THERE'S YOU UNDERSTAND
WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY HERE. SO
HELP ME. YEAH. I THINK IN LAW
THERE'S A LONG TERME PLAN TO
TRANSITION AWAY FROM THE HOLD
HARMLESS AND TRANSITION ALL
DISTRICTS TO THE CORE FUNDING
FORMULA ELEMENTS. AND THE WAY
THE STATE WAS INTENDING TO DO
THAT WAS BY ENDING THE
APPLICATION OF A COST OF LIVING
ADJUSTMENT ON THE HOLD. HARMLESS
PROVISION. SO OVER TIME, THE
RATES ON THE CORE FUNDING
FORMULA WOULD INCREASE. BUT THE
HOLD HARMLESS WOULD IF
EFFECTIVELY STAY STATIC. SO OVER
TIME EVERY DISTRICT WOULD GROW
ONTO THAT CORE FUNDING FORMULA.
SO THAT TOO WILL HELP SHRINK
THAT GAP BETWEEN WHAT YOU'RE
SEEING, TODAY, IT IS CORRECT
THAT THE PANDEMIC DID HAVE
IMPACTS ON WHAT THAT GAP LOOKS
LIKE, DEPENDING ON THE DISTRICT,
AND I THINK THE OTHER THING THAT
I WOULD SAY IS IN TERMS OF
GROWTH WITHIN DISTRICTS THAT
GROWTH METRIC IS A MOVING TARGET
IN ANY GIVEN YEAR. SO EVEN PRE
SAF, YOU WOULD SEE YEARS IN
WHICH SOME DISTRICTS GREW ABOVE
THEIR CAP, AND YEARS WHEN THEY
DID NOT HIT THEIR CAP. AND I
THINK IT'S JUST A STRUGGLE IN
TERMS OF KNOWING WHO'S GOING TO
SHOW UP IN ANY GIVEN YEAR. SO
IT'S GOING TO VARY, BUT THE
STATE IS AND HAS A PLAN IN LAW,
LIKE I MENTIONED, TO TRY AND
TRANSITION EVERYONE TO THAT CORE
FUNDING FORMULA WITH THE SAME
RATES, THE SAME APPLICATION OF
COST OF LIVING. THE OTHER PIECE
THAT I WOULD ADD IN HERE IS IN
TERMS OF EQUITY, AS WE THINK
ABOUT REGIONAL COST OF LIVING
ADJUSTMENTS OR OTHER ITEMS THAT
HAVE BEEN MENTIONED, WE HAVE A
LIMITED POT OF RESOURCES WITHIN
THE GUARANTEE. SO TO THE EXTENT
YOU FOCUS ON SOMETHING LIKE A
REGIONAL COST OF LIVING
ADJUSTMENT, THAT'S FEWER
RESOURCES TOWARD POTENTIALLY THE
EQUITY COMPONENTS OF THE FUNDING
FORMULA. SO THAT'S JUST
SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. AS YOU
KNOW, THE CONVERSATIONS PROGRESS
IN THE FUTURE. GOT IT. THANK
YOU, MR. MURATSUCHI, WOULD YOU
LIKE SOME QUESTIONS? NO. OKAY.
THANK YOU. ALL THIS HAS BEEN
VERY IMPORTANT CONVERSATION. I
REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENCE
AND ANSWERING THOSE QUESTIONS,
WE WILL MOVE ON TO ISSUE NUMBER
TWO, WHICH IS THE PROPOSAL ON
THE NURSING PROGRAM, THERE'S A
PROPOSAL IN THE GOVERNOR'S
BUDGET TO PROVIDE 60,000,000 IN
1 TIME PROPOSITION 98 GENERAL
FUND TO PROVIDE, ADDITIONAL
SUPPORT FOR OUR COMMUNITY
COLLEGE NURSING PROGRAMS. WE
HAVE ASSEMBLY MEMBER SORIA, WITH
US, WHO I KNOW HAS BEEN VERY
INTERESTED AND INVOLVED IN THIS.
AND I'D ASK HER IF SHE'D LIKE TO
MAKE SOME COMMENTS BEFORE OUR
PANEL BEGINS. ÓRDENES, TO HELP
US SET THE TONE. SO I'LL ASK YOU
, MISS SORIA, TO COME FORWARD
AND JOIN US HERE. YEAH IF YOU'D
LIKE. AND THEN WE'LL GO TO OUR
OTHER PANELISTS FROM DEPARTMENT
OF FINANCE, LÀ AND THE
CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE. WELCOME
THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING, CHAIR
AND MEMBERS. I I'D LIKE TO SPEAK
TO YOU TODAY NOT ONLY TO
ADVOCATE FOR THE GOVERNOR'S
PROPOSAL FOR 60 MILLION TO
SUPPORT THE NURSING EDUCATION IN
THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE SYSTEM,
BUT I HAD ACTUALLY ASKED THAT
AMOUNT TO BE INCREASED, WE'RE
PROPOSING OR WE'RE REQUESTING
$100 MILLION TO PROPERLY SUPPORT
THE EXPANSION OF OUR COMMUNITY
COLLEGES TO EXPLORE, PROVIDING
BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN NURSING,
JUST FOR SOME BACKGROUND ON THE
ISSUE, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN
WORKING ON THIS ISSUE SINCE LAST
YEAR WITH THE CLOSURE OF MADERA.
MADERA COMMUNITY HOSPITAL IN MY
DISTRICT. AND, OVER THE SEVERAL
MONTHS, HAVE BEEN WORKING ON AB
2104. AND, THIS BECAME VERY THIS
ISSUE BECAME VERY APPARENT TO ME
WHEN, IN MADERA COMMUNITY
HOSPITAL WAS RELYING ON 40% OF
ITS NURSES AS TRAVELERS, WHICH
WAS A FACTOR IN ENDING AND
ENDING UP, MAKING THE HOSPITAL
GO BANKRUPT, AND SO WHAT WE KNOW
IS THAT WE DO HAVE A NURSING
SHORTAGE IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA, AND IT HAS,
OBVIOUSLY SEVERAL IMPLICATIONS,
NOT JUST FOR MY REGION IN THE
CENTRAL VALLEY, BUT REGIONS
ACROSS THE STATE, IF WE LOOK AT
THE SHORTAGE AND THE SHORTAGE
THAT WE WILL HAVE THAT IS
PROJECTED BY 2030 IS ACTUALLY
44,000 NURSES, AND SO, AS I
MENTIONED, WE'VE SEEN THE
IMPACTS ALREADY IMPACT HOSPITALS
LIKE MINE IN MY DISTRICT, THAT
HOSPITAL'S INABILITY TO SECURE
APPROPRIATE STAFF, LEADING TO
DEPENDANCE ON TRAVELER NURSES
WAS JUST ONE OF THOSE FACTORS.
SO REGIONS LIKE MINE, ARE
PROBABLY THE MOST SEVERELY
IMPACTED BY THE NURSE NURSING
WORKFORCE SHORTAGES, AND I JUST
WANT TO MAKE NOTE THAT IN MY
AREA, ANOTHER JUST ISSUE THAT IS
COMPOUNDED FOR THE SHORTAGE IN
WHICH WE THINK COMMUNITY
COLLEGES ARE REALLY SET TO MEET
THIS MOMENT, IS THAT OUR CSUS
AND OUR UCS ARE WAY TOO FAR FROM
RURAL COMMUNITIES, IN PARTICULAR
IN MY DISTRICT, WHERE STUDENTS
HAVE TO TRAVEL AT LEAST AN HOUR
TO GO TO FRESNO STATE, OR EVEN
MORE IN THE NORTHERN PART OF MY
DISTRICT IN MERCED COUNTY,
HAVING TO GO ALL THE WAY TO
STANISLAUS STATE, FOR A NURSING
PROGRAM. THIS MAKES MAKES IT SO
OUR STUDENTS ARE HAVING TO
EITHER GO TO A PRIVATE
UNIVERSITY, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW,
THREE TIMES THE COST OF A STATE,
PROGRAM LEAVING MANY OF OUR
STUDENTS IN DEBT OR, OR ACTUALLY
NOT HAVING THE ABILITY TO GO TO,
YOU KNOW, A NURSING BACHELOR'S
PROGRAM AT ANY OF THE UC OR CSU
JUST BECAUSE THESE PROGRAMS ARE
SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACTED, AND
GIVING THE THOSE LIMITATIONS IT
MAKES, ESPECIALLY IN MY
COMMUNITY, WHICH IS MORE
UNDERSERVED, IT DOESN'T PROVIDE,
THAT VENUE FOR, FOR OUR
STUDENTS. AND SO WE BELIEVE THAT
THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE SYSTEM IS
READY AND WAITING TO SERVE THESE
STUDENTS, AND WE KNOW WE HAVE,
YOU KNOW, THE NEED IN TERMS OF
THE WORKFORCE, THE SHORTAGE THAT
IS PROJECTED BY 2030, THIS
LEGISLATIVE BODY HAS BEEN
COMMITTED TO EXPAND ACCESS TO
CARE. BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE THE
WORKFORCE, THAT IS NEEDED, WE'RE
NOT GOING TO MEET THOSE GOALS
THAT WE HAVE SET FOR OUR ENTIRE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA. AND SO I
DON'T THINK, YOU KNOW, THE
60,000, THE 60 MILLION WHICH IS
BEING PROPOSED BY THE GOVERNOR,
MUCH LESS 100 MILLION IS A SMALL
DROP IN THE BUCKET. I THINK THAT
IT IS A VERY NECESSARY
INVESTMENT, GIVEN THE FACT THAT
WE SEE THE, THE NUMBER IN TERMS
OF SHORTAGES IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND THIS WOULD BE REALLY, HELP
US CREATE THAT FIRST STEP TO
CREATE THESE PATHWAYS TO
INCREASE ACCESS TO THESE
PROGRAMS, THESE BACHELOR
PROGRAMS, ESPECIALLY NOW MORE,
MORE AND MORE STUDENTS ARE BEING
REQUIRED TO PURSUE A BACHELOR'S
IN NURSING VERSUS JUST AN
ASSOCIATE'S. AND SO WE BELIEVE
THAT, YOU KNOW, AB 2104, WHICH
IS THE POLICY, COMPONENT TO THIS
AND VERY GRATEFUL THAT IT WAS
APPROVED IN OUR ASSEMBLY
EDUCATION COMMITTEE, HIGHER
EDUCATION COMMITTEE, THAT WE DO
ADVANCE THESE INVESTMENTS IN OUR
CURRENT BUDGET BECAUSE THE NEED
IS THERE, WE DON'T WANT TO SEE
ANY MORE MADERA COMMUNITY
HOSPITALS CLOSED AS A RESULT OF
THE WORKFORCE SHORTAGE OR, SEE
MANY OF OUR RURAL CLINICS, WHICH
ARE ALSO ARE IN NEED OF NURSES,
ESPECIALLY IN THOSE MORE RURAL
AREAS THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY
EITHER CAN'T OPEN NEW SITES OR
HAVE TO CLOSE SITES BECAUSE WE
DON'T HAVE THE WORKFORCE THAT IS
NECESSARY. SO I JUST WANT TO
APPEAL TO YOU GUYS THAT THIS IS
A VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE. I KNOW
IT IS ONE TIME FUNDING, BUT THAT
ONE TIME FUNDING WILL REALLY
HELP, COMMUNITY COLLEGES THAT
ARE SELECTED AS A PILOT PROGRAM
TO BEGIN TO DEVELOP THESE
PROGRAMS SO THAT WE CAN MEET THE
NEEDS, NOT JUST OF TODAY, BUT OF
THE FUTURE. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH
, CHAIR, FOR THE OPPORTUNITY, TO
JUST MAKE MY CASE THAT THIS IS
NOT JUST FOR THE VALLEY, BUT
REALLY A STATE ISSUE THAT WE
WILL WE ALL NEED TO CONFRONT IN
THE COMMUNITY COLLEGES, ARE
POISED TO HELP US IN
ACCOMPLISHING THAT. THANK YOU. I
APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. AND
THANK YOU FOR YOUR ADVOCACY ON
THIS. WE ARE GOING TO GET INTO
THE PANEL NOW AND INTO THE
DETAILS, I WANT TO PUT A
SPECIFIC JUST, CONTEXT TO THIS
CONVERSATION, TO THE PANELISTS,
JUST, BECAUSE I'M, I'M,
CONFLICTED IN THE INFORMATION
PRESENTED BEFORE US. THERE'S A
REPORT IN 2023 THAT, NURSING
PROGRAMS REPORT. THEY HAVE, THE
CAPACITY AND PLANS TO INCREASE
SLOTS, WHICH I ASSUME IS A
RESPONSE TO THE NEED. BUT THEN
ALSO THE LAO PRESENTS DATA THAT,
IS FOUND ON FIGURE 11, THAT THE
AMOUNT OF APPLICANTS AND THOSE
THAT ARE ENROLLED ARE GOING TO
MAYBE MEET THE NEED IN THE
FUTURE. SO THERE'S SORT OF
CONFLICTING INFORMATION HERE
ABOUT WHAT THAT SHORTAGE IS. AND
SO I DEFINITELY WANT TO THANK
YOU, ASSEMBLYMEMBER. I
DEFINITELY WANT TO ASK THE
PANELISTS TO TRY TO GIVE
PERSPECTIVE ON THAT AS YOU GIVE
YOUR PRESENTATIONS AS TO WHY
THIS PROGRAM OR HOW THIS PROGRAM
ADDRESSES THOSE CONCERNS, AND
ALSO, CONCERNS ABOUT THE, THE
ISSUE THAT I HEAR ABOUT
PLACEMENTS AND BEING ABLE TO
MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S
PLACEMENTS FOR INDIVIDUALS TO
ACTUALLY PRACTICE AND GET THE
HOURS THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO,
TO EVENTUALLY RECEIVE THE
DEGREES. THOSE ARE TWO THINGS
THAT I CONSTANTLY HEAR ABOUT
CONCERNS ABOUT NURSING BEYOND,
JUST HAVING NURSING PROGRAMS
AVAILABLE. SO LET'S START WITH
THE LAO, THIS IS A GOVERNOR'S
PROPOSAL. AND THEN WE'LL GO TO
THE SORRY, THE FINANCE TO
GOVERNOR'S PROPOSAL, THEN TO LAO
AND THEN TO THE CHANCELLOR'S
OFFICE. THANK YOU, CHAIR AND
MEMBERS JUSTIN HURST WITH THE
DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE. I'LL VERY
BRIEFLY GO OVER THIS INVESTMENT.
CONSISTENT WITH THE 2023 BUDGET
ACT AGREEMENT. THIS GOVERNOR'S
BUDGET PROPOSAL IS AN INCREASE
OF $60 MILLION, ONE TIME
PROPOSITION 98 GENERAL FUND TO
SUPPORT CÁC COMMUNITY COLLEGES,
NURSING PROGRAMS. THE 2023
BUDGET ACT INCLUDED LANGUAGE FOR
FUNDING THE 60 MILLION
PROPOSITION 98 GENERAL FUND EACH
YEAR FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS,
STARTING IN THIS BUDGET YEAR 20
2425, FOR THIS SPECIFIC PURPOSE
AND THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST YEAR
OF THAT INVESTMENT, THE RELATED
TRAILER BILL THAT HAS BEEN
RELEASED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF
FINANCE MIRRORS THIS LANGUAGE
THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE 2023
BUDGET ACT, AT THIS TIME, THIS
NURSING PROPOSAL WAS A SENATE
ACT. ADD IN THAT BUDGET ACT. SO
THE DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE IS
HOPING TO RECEIVE AND REVIEW
CONCEPTUAL LANGUAGE FROM THE
LEGISLATURE, REGARDING YOUR
FOLLOW UP QUESTION ON PLACEMENT,
I WOULD DEFER TO THE
CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE FOR THAT, SO
THAT CONCLUDES MY OVERVIEW, AND
I'LL ANSWER QUESTIONS AT THE
APPROPRIATE TIME. ELIO THANK
YOU. PAUL STEINHAUSEN AGAIN WITH
THE ANALYST'S OFFICE AS YOUR
AGENDA NOTES, AND HAS BEEN
WIDELY REPORTED, THE STATE IS IN
THE MIDST OF A NURSING SHORTAGE
LARGELY CAUSED BY COVID 19
PANDEMIC, WHICH CAUSED A NUMBER
OF OLDER NURSES TO QUIT, TO
RETIRE OR GO INTO ANOTHER LINE
OF WORK. IT CAUSED ALSO NURSING
PROGRAMS TO EXPERIENCE
ENROLLMENT DECLINES. THEY
REDUCED THEIR ENROLLMENT, THEIR
COHORT SIZES FOR PHYSICAL
DISTANCING. THERE WASN'T ENOUGH
CLINICAL PLACEMENTS, YOU HAD
STUDENTS THAT WERE ACCEPTED BUT
DECLINED TO ENROLL BECAUSE OF
PERSONAL OTHER REASONS. SO THAT
WAS, THAT WAS A CAUSE OF THE
PANDEMIC, AND YOU DO HAVE THIS
GOVERNOR'S PROPOSAL TO PROVIDE
$60 MILLION ONE TIME TO EXPAND
NURSING PROGRAMS. AGAIN, THIS
WOULD BE PROPOSITION 98, THE,
OUR OFFICE TOOK A LOOK AT THE
STATE OF THE NURSING SHORTAGE,
BECAUSE THE PANDEMIC HAS WANED,
THANKFULLY. AND WE HAVE HEARD
ABOUT NURSING PROGRAMS STARTING
TO RE ENROLL STUDENTS AND GET UP
TO THEIR ORIGINAL SIZE. AND IN
FACT, EXPAND THEIR ENROLLMENTS.
WE LOOKED AT A UNIVERSITY OF
CALIFORNIA, SAN FRANCISCO,
REPORT, FORECAST AND REPORT THAT
THEY DO FOR THE BOARD OF
REGISTERED NURSING. EVERY COUPLE
YEARS. THERE'S A FALL 2023
REPORT THAT UC SAN FRANCISCO
DID. AND THEN THEY JUST UPDATED
IT, UPDATED THEIR FORECAST IN
FEBRUARY WHAT THEY FOUND. AND
YOU REFERENCED IT, CHAIR
ALVAREZ, IS THAT NEW ENROLLMENTS
IN THE COMMUNITY COLLEGES AND
OTHER NURSING PROGRAMS HAVE
RECOVERED. THEY HAVE REBOUNDED,
AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY GROWING
NURSING PROGRAM ADMINISTRATORS
AT THE COMMUNITY COLLEGES AT CAL
STATE UNIVERSITY, NURSING
PROGRAMS AND OTHER PROGRAMS ARE
REPORTING THAT THEY'RE GROWING.
THEY'RE ADDING NEW ENROLLMENT
SLOTS. AND BASED ON ENROLLMENT
PROJECTIONS BY UCSF, THE SUPPLY
DEMAND GAP IS EXPECTED TO CLOSE
BY 2028 OR EVEN A YEAR SOONER BY
2027. SO THAT'S THAT'S GOOD NEWS
. AS YOUR AGENDA NOTES, HOWEVER,
REGIONAL GAPS MAY PERSIST. YOU
HAVE SOME AREAS OF THE STATE AND
THIS IS ACTUALLY IN YOUR IN YOUR
AGENDA. THIS IS AN OLDER REPORT
BUT THIS IS ON PAGE 17. FIGURE
ONE. YOU CAN SEE SOME REGIONS
YOU HAVE SUPPLY. ACTUALLY ABOVE
DEMAND AND OTHERS WHERE THE
OPPOSITE IS THE CASE, THAT IS
THE CASE WITH A PLACE LIKE THE
CENTRAL VALLEY, FOR EXAMPLE,
WHERE YOU HAVE, DEMAND AND, AND
THE SUPPLY IS NOT KEEPING UP
WITH THAT DEMAND IN THAT CASE,
THE LEGISLATURE ACTUALLY ENACTED
A PROGRAM, A COUPLE DIFFERENT
PROGRAMS TO ADDRESS THESE KINDS
OF REGIONAL NEEDS. THE BIGGEST
ONE IS THE STRONG WORKFORCE
PROGRAM. AND THE STRONG
WORKFORCE PROGRAM GETS ANNUAL
MONEY EVERY YEAR. IT'S ABOUT
$290 MILLION THAT GOES TO
COMMUNITY COLLEGES AND REGIONS.
AND THE PURPOSE IS TO PROMOTE
REGIONAL COORDINATION, TO
ADDRESS WORKFORCE GAPS AND ALSO
TO FUND THE HIGHER COST OF
CAREER TECHNICAL EDUCATION
PROGRAMS LIKE NURSING AND AS
YOU'LL HEAR IN THE NEXT AGENDA
ITEM, THE STRONG WORKFORCE
PROGRAM HAS A LOT OF UNSPENT
MONEY. COLLEGES ARE ACTUALLY NOT
ABLE TO SPEND THE MONEY THEY'RE
GETTING IN THE CURRENT YEAR.
THEY'RE STILL SPENDING MONEY
FROM 20 2021. SO BASED ON THE
DATA WE'VE RECEIVED FROM THE
CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE, COLLEGES
AND REGIONS, INCLUDING THE
CENTRAL VALLEY AND OTHER AREAS
HAVE MONEY, SHOULD THEY NEED IT
AND, AND WANT TO USE IT TO
INCREASE ENROLLMENTS, BEYOND
WHAT THEY'RE ALREADY DOING IN
NURSING PROGRAMS. SO GIVEN THAT
THE DATA SUGGESTS THAT THE
STATEWIDE SHORTAGE IS TEMPORARY
AND THAT OTHER STATE FUNDING IS
AVAILABLE TO BOOST ENROLLMENT TO
ADDRESS REGIONAL NEEDS, WE
RECOMMEND THE LEGISLATURE REJECT
THIS PROPOSAL BY THE GOVERNOR
FOR MORE NURSING MONEY FOR THE
COLLEGES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE. THANK YOU.
CHAIR. ALVAREZ AND SUBCOMMITTEE
MEMBERS. MY NAME IS DAVID
O'BRIEN. I HAVE THE HONOR AND
PRIVILEGE OF SERVING AS VICE
CHANCELLOR FOR GOVERNMENT
RELATIONS FOR THE CALIFORNIA
COMMUNITY COLLEGES. THE HEALTH
CARE STAFFING CRISIS IS A
CRITICAL WORKFORCE NEED AND A
PRIORITY SECTOR FOR THE
COMMUNITY COLLEGES TO ADDRESS.
UNDER OUR VISION 2030 ROADMAP,
COMMUNITY COLLEGES CAN AND WILL
PLAY A MAJOR ROLE IN SOLVING THE
NURSING SHORTAGE. WITH 77
ASSOCIATE DEGREE FOR NURSING
PROGRAMS SERVING NEARLY 30,000
STUDENTS ANNUALLY, CALIFORNIA'S
COMMUNITY COLLEGES ALREADY
CONTRIBUTE SIGNIFICANTLY TO THE
NURSING WORKFORCE. WE GRADUATE
ALMOST HALF OF THE STATE'S
NURSES AND SATISFY ABOUT 21% OF
THE STATE'S DEMAND FOR NURSES.
OUR NURSING PROGRAMS ARE VERY
DIVERSE AND INCLUDE MANY
STUDENTS OF COLOR, LOW INCOME
STUDENTS, AND OTHER HISTORICALLY
UNDERREPRESENTED POPULATIONS.
AFTER GRADUATING FROM OUR
PROGRAMS, THESE NURSING
PROFESSIONALS ARE MORE LIKELY TO
PRACTICE IN ETHNICALLY DIVERSE
COMMUNITIES, REDUCING HEALTH
DISPARITIES THAT THOSE REGIONS
AND COMMUNITIES OFTEN SUFFER.
OUR STUDENTS ARE RECEIVING
AFFORDABLE, HIGH QUALITY
TRAINING THAT WILL PREPARE THEM
FOR LICENSURE AND BEYOND.
DESPITE THE INCREASED INTEREST
IN COMMUNITY COLLEGE NURSING
PROGRAMS, HOWEVER, OUR
INSTITUTIONS ARE STRUGGLING TO
EXPAND CAPACITY AND MEET STUDENT
DEMAND. THE NUMBER OF QUALIFIED
APPLICATIONS RECEIVED BY
CALIFORNIA NURSING PROGRAMS HAS
INCREASED BY MORE THAN 80% OVER
THE LAST TEN YEARS, BUT
ACCORDING TO THE BUREAU OF
REGISTERED NURSING, NEARLY 75%
OF QUALIFIED NURSING APPLICANTS
WERE DENIED ADMISSION INTO AN
ADDON PROGRAM IN 20 2122. THESE
PROSPECTIVE STUDENTS REPRESENT A
RESERVOIR OF TALENT THAT
CALIFORNIA MUST TAP INTO TO
ALLEVIATE REGIONAL NURSING
SHORTAGES AND ENSURE EQUITABLE
ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE FOR ALL,
ACCORDING TO RESEARCH CONDUCTED
BY OUR CENTERS OF EXCELLENCE,
THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA WILL
NEED TO PRODUCE NEARLY 26,000
NEW NURSES ANNUALLY. BUT BASED
ON THE MOST RECENT TWO YEARS OF
DATA, WE'VE ADDED ONLY ABOUT
14,000 NURSES, LEAVING A DEFICIT
OF OVER 11,000 NURSES. A LACK OF
QUALIFIED AND PROFESSIONAL
NURSES CAN HAVE DEVASTATING
CONSEQUENCES ON BOTH THE OVERALL
HEALTH CARE SYSTEM AND FOR
PATIENTS, AND THIS IS ESPECIALLY
TRUE, AS WE HEARD FROM ASSEMBLY
MEMBER SARRIA. FOR REGIONS SUCH
AS THE CENTRAL VALLEY, INLAND
EMPIRE AND NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
COUNTIES. I THINK IT'S ALL WELL
AND GOOD TO SAY THAT THE NURSING
SHORTAGE IS GOING TO SOMEHOW
SOLVE ITSELF OVER THE NEXT FEW
YEARS, BUT I JUST WANT TO
HIGHLIGHT FOR THE COMMITTEE THAT
IN THE MOST UNDERSERVED REGIONS
OF OUR STATE, THE NURSING
SHORTAGE IS NOT HYPOTHETICAL FOR
THE STUDENTS, FAMILIES AND
COMMUNITIES THAT WE SERVE. IT'S
VERY REAL WHEN HOSPITALS CLOSE,
IN PART BECAUSE THEY CAN'T
RECRUIT AND RETAIN QUALIFIED
HEALTH CARE WORKERS, WHETHER
IT'S IN MADERA OR COALINGA.
PROJECTIONS, YOU KNOW, MULTIYEAR
PROJECTIONS DON'T CHANGE THE
FACT THAT THERE ARE COMMUNITIES
RIGHT NOW, LOW INCOME LATINO
COMMUNITIES WHERE AN AMBULANCE
RIDE TO THE NEAREST HOSPITAL CAN
TAKE AN HOUR OR MORE. SO,
ACCORDING TO SURVEY DATA,
ACTUALLY FROM THE MOST RECENT
LEGISLATIVE REPORT ON NURSING
PROGRAMS THAT MY OFFICE ISSUED,
WE FOUND THAT THE NUMBER OF
NURSES PLANNING TO RETIRE. AND I
SAY WE THIS IS ACTUALLY UCSF
SURVEY DATA, FOUND THAT THE
NUMBER OF NURSES PLANNING TO
RETIRE OR LEAVE THE PROFESSION
HAS INCREASED SUBSTANTIALLY
SINCE 2018. ABOUT 39% OF ALL
SURVEYED NURSES IN 2022 SAID
THAT THEY DEFINITELY PLAN TO
EITHER RETIRE OR LEAVE THEIR
PROFESSION, OR THAT IT WAS
REASONABLY LIKELY THAT THEY
WOULD DO SO IN THE NEXT TWO
YEARS. SO FOR THESE REASONS, WE
ARE STRONGLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE
GOVERNOR'S INVESTMENT OF $60
MILLION TO GROW, EDUCATE AND
MAINTAIN THE NEXT GENERATION OF
REGISTERED NURSES THROUGH THE
COMMUNITY COLLEGE SYSTEM. THE
GOVERNOR'S BUDGET AND CURRENT
TRAILER BILL LANGUAGE AS THE
DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE HAS
PRESENTED CALLS ON OUR SYSTEM TO
FOCUS THIS FUNDING IN TWO KEY
AREAS. FIRST IS THE EXPANSION OF
OUR EXISTING ADN PROGRAMS. WE
BELIEVE THAT THIS MAY INCLUDE
EXPENSE EXPENSES RELATED FOR
DIRECT INSTRUCTION, SUCH AS
FACULTY HIRING AND EQUIPMENT,
AND RELATED EFFORTS TO INCREASE
STUDENT PARTICIPATION AND DEGREE
ATTAINMENT. SECOND IS THE
EXPANSION OF OUR SUCCESSFUL ADN
TO BSN PARTNERSHIP. AS NOTED IN
YOUR ANALYSIS, SEVERAL OF OUR
COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICTS HAVE
ESTABLISHED SUCCESSFUL WHAT WE
CALL TWO PLUS TWO PARTNERSHIPS
WITH FOUR YEAR UNIVERSITIES.
UNDER THIS COLLABORATIVE MODEL,
STUDENTS EARN THEIR ADN AT A
COMMUNITY COLLEGE AND COMPLETE
THEIR BSN AT A CSU OR OTHER FOUR
YEAR UNIVERSITY. IT'S CERTAINLY
TRUE THAT THIS BUDGET PROPOSAL
ALONE WILL NOT SOLVE THE NURSING
WORKFORCE CRISIS. WE AGREE THAT
ON THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL
CAPACITY FOR CLINICAL PLACEMENTS
AND MORE QUALIFIED FACULTY
TEACHING IN OUR PROGRAMS. BUT
ONE THING IS CLEAR CALIFORNIA'S
COMMUNITY COLLEGES ARE DEEPLY
COMMITTED TO SERVING STUDENTS
WHO DO NOT HAVE EQUITABLE ACCESS
TO THE STATE'S NURSING EDUCATION
PROGRAMS. PRIVATE INSTITUTIONS.
AS THE ASSEMBLY MEMBER MENTIONED
, ARE MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE THAN
OUR COMMUNITY COLLEGES AND LOW
INCOME CALIFORNIANS SIMPLY
CANNOT AFFORD THIS OPTION MOST
OF THE TIME. I SPOKE JUST
YESTERDAY TO A LEADER OF ONE OF
OUR CENTRAL VALLEY COMMUNITY
COLLEGE DISTRICTS, WHO SHARED
WITH ME THAT THE NEAREST FOUR
YEAR UNIVERSITY TO HER COLLEGES
WITH A NURSING PROGRAM CHARGES
$150,000 IN TUITION OVER THE
TOTAL LENGTH OF THE PROGRAM.
MEANWHILE, COMMUNITY COLLEGES
CONTINUE TO CHARGE $46 PER UNIT,
MAKING THE TOTAL COST OF
RECEIVING AN ADN AT A COMMUNITY
COLLEGE LESS THAN ONE TENTH OF
THAT AT MANY OF OUR MOST
EXPENSIVE PRIVATE UNIVERSITIES.
THIS IS A ROLE FOR THE
CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY COLLEGES.
AS MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY CLOSE ON
A PERSONAL NOTE, AS THE SON OF A
RETIRED REGISTERED NURSE WHO
BROUGHT HER INFANT CHILD WITH
HER TO CAMPUS AS SHE PURSUED HER
NURSING DEGREE, A PRIVATE
CITIZEN, SALLY O'BRIEN OF WEST
SACRAMENTO, ASKED ME TO CONVEY
HER STRONG SUPPORT FOR THIS
PROPOSAL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE
LET HER KNOW. WE HEARD HER LOUD
AND CLEAR, THANK YOU ALL. LET ME
, START THE CONVERSATION WITH,
WITH A FEW ITEMS SO I DIDN'T GET
ANY MORE CLARITY IN THE PANEL AS
TO THE, WHAT THE DATA SHOWS. I
THINK IF WE LOOK AT PAGE 17,
FIGURE ONE, I'VE CIRCLED TWO,
TWO REGIONS THAT CLEARLY AT
LEAST IF WE ALL BELIEVE, AND I
THINK WE NEED TO AGREE ON WHAT
FACTS WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT.
BUT I HEARD THE CHANCELLOR'S
OFFICE AND THE LÀ BOTH REFER TO
THIS, THIS UCSF AS SORT OF THE
CENTER OF INFORMATION LOS
ANGELES AND SACRAMENTO, PROBABLY
ALL THE REGIONS SEEM TO BE ON
THE RIGHT PATH. AND I THINK
MAYBE WE SHOULD START TO FIGURE
OUT WHERE WE AGREE AND DISAGREE.
CERTAINLY, SAN FRANCISCO CENTRAL
VALLEY IDENTIFY SHORTAGES AND
THE OTHERS ARE, YOU KNOW, IF IT
ALL GOES WELL, THEY'LL BREAK
EVEN, WHICH WOULD BE A GOOD
THING, AND SO I THINK WE NEED TO
JUST AGREE ON THE SET OF FACTS,
IF THAT'S THE CASE, AND WE CAN
START TO FOCUS OUR CONVERSATION
ON THAT, I WOULD THOUGH LIKE TO
GET MORE INFORMATION ON TWO
THINGS. ONE IS ON ON THE ISSUE
OF PLACEMENTS, BECAUSE I KEEP
HEARING FROM, NURSING PROGRAMS,
PUBLIC NURSING PROGRAMS, SCHOOL
NURSING PROGRAMS THAT PLACEMENTS
CONTINUE TO BE A CHALLENGE. AND
I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW IN
PLACES WHERE UNFORTUNATELY,
MEDICAL SYSTEMS HAVE CLOSED OR
LEFT OR WHATEVER HAPPENED, HOW
WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO FIND
THE PLACEMENTS WITHIN THOSE
COMMUNITIES TO ACTUALLY GIVE,
THE STUDENTS THE OPPORTUNITY TO
GET THEIR PRACTICUM HOURS IN
ORDER TO COMPLETE THEIR DEGREE.
I HAVEN'T SEEN DATA ON I DON'T
KNOW WHO, MAYBE UCSF, I DON'T
KNOW WHO HAS INFORMATION, BUT I
THINK THAT'S DATA THAT I'D LIKE
TO SEE BEFORE MAKING SORT OF A
FINAL JUDGMENT ON ON THIS INVEST
IN INVESTMENT MAKING MAKING
SENSE IN ADDITION TO WHAT'S
ALREADY AVAILABLE. AND THAT
TAKES ME TO MY SECOND POINT,
WHICH IS THE STRONG WORKFORCE,
FUNDING. AND I KNOW WE'LL TALK
ABOUT IT IN THE NEXT PANEL, BUT
THERE IS FUNDING AVAILABLE
THERE, THAT IS MY BELIEF. YOU
CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT
INTENDED TO ENSURE THAT, COLLEGE
AND DISTRICTS ARE ABLE TO
UTILIZE THOSE FUNDS TO RESPOND
TO WORKFORCE NEEDS. THIS IS A
WORKFORCE NEED. AND SO I THINK
I'M INTERESTED IN UNDERSTANDING
WHY THAT SHIFT HAS NOT ALREADY
OCCURRED AND WHY THOSE FUNDS ARE
NOT BEING USED IN THIS WAY TO
SERVE THIS IMPORTANT NEED. AND
THEN I THINK THE LAST THING I
THINK WE HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE, I
WANT TO BE FAIR TO THE
ADMINISTRATION. SO IT SOUNDS
LIKE, ADMINISTRATION IS MEETING
A COMMITMENT OF A PREVIOUS YEAR
BUDGET OF JUST PUTTING 60
MILLION TO THE BUDGET, BUT
THERE'S NO FROM THE
ADMINISTRATION STANDPOINT. AND I
THINK I JUST HEARD FOR THE FIRST
TIME FROM THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE
SYSTEM, BUT FROM THE
ADMINISTRATION STANDPOINT,
THERE'S NO THERE IS NO, CURRENT
VEHICLE OF WHAT THE PROGRAM IS
GOING TO LOOK LIKE, I DID HEAR
FROM, CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE ADD
INS AND ADD ONS TO BSNS. I DID
NOT HEAR COMMUNITY COLLEGES
OFFERING BACHELOR'S DEGREE, SO I
GUESS MAYBE YOU CAN HELP ME
UNDERSTAND WHAT THE THINKING IS.
IF THERE'S BEEN ANY DISCUSSIONS,
YES. JUSTIN HEARST, DEPARTMENT
OF FINANCE, I CAN CONFIRM THAT
YOUR ASSESSMENT OF THE
ADMINISTRATION'S PROPOSAL IS
CORRECT. THE TRAILER BILL IS
VERY BARE BONES. IT JUST MIRRORS
WHAT WAS PASSED IN THE 2023
BUDGET ACT AND THE
ADMINISTRATION'S INTENTION IS TO
CONTINUE NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE
LEGISLATURE ON THAT. SO WE DO
NOT HAVE, PREDETERMINED OUTCOME
ON THAT. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE
THAT. YES, DID I HEAR YOU
CORRECT, EXPANDING ADN PROGRAMS
AND ADN TO BSN. THAT'S OUR
UNDERSTANDING IN PART BASED ON
SOME DISCUSSIONS WE HAD WITH, I
BELIEVE THEY MAY BE HERE, THE
SPONSORS OF LEGISLATION LAST
YEAR THAT THAT I BELIEVE WAS
HELD AS A TWO YEAR BILL
REGARDING THE USE OF THESE FUNDS
BECAUSE THIS WAS ORIGINALLY A
PROPOSAL THAT WAS FLOATED LATE
LAST YEAR, SO OUR UNDERSTANDING
HAS BEEN AND AGAIN, BASED ON THE
GOVERNOR'S BUDGET SUMMARY, THAT
THE FOCUS IS ADD ONS AND ADD ONS
TO BSNS SEPARATELY. WE, YOU
KNOW, WE'RE AWARE OF AND THE
CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE SUPPORTIVE
OF EFFORTS TO ESTABLISH, YOU
KNOW, COMMUNITY COLLEGE BSN ON A
PILOT BASIS WITHIN OUR SYSTEM.
HOWEVER, OUR UNDERSTANDING HAS
BEEN THAT SINCE THIS WAS
PROPOSED IN THE BUDGET,
SEPARATELY FROM THE PROCESS AND
THAT WAS NOT THE
ADMINISTRATION'S INTENT TO LINK
IT TO THOSE LEGISLATIVE
PROPOSALS. WE ARE SUPPORTIVE OF
BOTH, BUT SUPPORTING THEM
SEPARATELY AT THIS TIME. AND I
THINK IF THE LEGISLATURE WERE TO
PASS BOTH, OF COURSE WE WOULD,
YOU KNOW, WORK TO WHERE WHERE IS
THE SENATE'S VERSION OF WHAT
THIS PROGRAM IS BECOMING OR WILL
BECOME? WHAT CAN YOU THERE'S A
SENATE POLICY BILL, SENATE BILL
885, BY SENATOR ROTH, THAT I
UNDERSTAND IS, BEING HEARD IN
SENATE EDUCATION COMMITTEE
TOMORROW AND ASSEMBLYMEMBERS
SYRIA, OF COURSE, HAS A
COMPANION BILL. OKAY SO I THINK
FOR BOTH APPROACHES, MY
QUESTIONS REMAIN. I DEFINITELY
WANT TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF GROWING
PROGRAMS, PARTICULARLY IN
REGIONS THAT NEED THEM. BUT I
THINK I'D LIKE TO SEE THE DATA
ON ONE. WHY A STRONG WORKFORCE
NOT BEING UTILIZED FOR THESE
PROGRAMS, AND TWO, I WANT TO
MAKE SURE THAT THE ISSUE OF
PLACEMENTS IS ADDRESSED.
GROWING, GROWING PROGRAMS FOR
THE SAKE OF GROWING PROGRAMS
WHERE THEY CAN'T ACTUALLY
FULFILL THEIR, YOU KNOW,
ULTIMATE GOAL, WHICH IS
ACHIEVING THE DEGREES IS NOT
REALLY BENEFICIAL EITHER. AND SO
I THINK, CERTAINLY TO, BOTH OF
THOSE, THOSE BILLS, I'D LIKE TO,
FULLY UNDERSTAND. SURE TAKING
THE STRONG WORKFORCE PIECE
FIRST, WE'LL GET BACK TO YOU
WITH SOME MORE DATA AND SOME
MORE DETAILED INFORMATION, BUT
BASICALLY, THE WAY WE'VE BEEN
LOOKING AT IT IS THAT, UNDER
VISION 2030, THE FRAMEWORK
ADOPTED BY OUR BOARD OF
GOVERNORS, WE'RE LOOKING FOR A
SIGNIFICANT EXPANSION OF,
COMMUNITY COLLEGE WORKFORCE
PROGRAMS INTO SORT OF GROWING,
YOU KNOW, NEW SECTORS OF THE
ECONOMY IN RECENT YEARS. AND WE
WERE THINKING LARGELY OF THOSE
STRONG WORKFORCE FUNDS AS BEING
PART OF THAT. BUT IN GENERAL,
WE'RE OPEN TO, YOU KNOW,
UTILIZING WHATEVER FUNDS ARE
AVAILABLE WHEN IT COMES TO
MEETING HIGH NEED AREAS LIKE
NURSING. SO WE'LL FOLLOW UP WITH
YOU ON THAT. ON THE PLACEMENTS,
PLEASE PIECE MY UNDERSTANDING.
AND AGAIN, WE'RE VERY AWARE THAT
THAT'S AN ISSUE AND A CHALLENGE.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THAT
DATA IS NOT NECESSARILY
COLLECTED IN A CENTRALIZED PLACE
SOMEWHERE. AT LEAST WE DON'T
HAVE ACCESS TO IT AS FAR AS
WE'RE AWARE, BUT THERE'S BEEN
PENDING LEGISLATION A COUPLE OF
YEARS IN A ROW REALLY TESTING MY
KNOWLEDGE OF BILL NUMBERS. BUT I
WANT TO SAY 2277 ASSEMBLY MEMBER
LOWE. THERE WAS A BILL LAST YEAR
TO SORT OF ADD MORE TRANSPARENCY
AROUND THAT PROCESS OF WHICH
STUDENTS ARE GETTING PLACEMENTS
AND WHICH HOSPITALS,
PARTICULARLY BY WHAT INDUSTRY,
BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S QUESTIONS
ABOUT WHETHER STUDENTS FROM THE
PRIVATE UNIVERSITIES, WHETHER
THERE'S AN INEQUITABLE ACCESS
ISSUE WITH THOSE UNIVERSITIES
AND THEIR FINANCIAL TIES TO SOME
OF OUR HOSPITALS. I'LL JUST END
BY SAYING, WITH ENOUGH DATA ON
THOSE FRONTS, I WANT TO, YOU
KNOW, AT LEAST STATE IT THAT
FROM THIS COMMITTEE. WE'RE
INTERESTED IN SUPPORTING SOME
INMIGRATORIOS APPROACH AND ALSO
SENATOR'S APPROACH ON GROWING
SOME OF THESE PROGRAMS AND SO
WE'LL LOOK AT THIS DATA IN
CONTEXT OF THE BILLS AND SEE HOW
WE CAN BE SUPPORTIVE OF GROWING
THESE PROGRAMS AND WHERE THEY'RE
NEEDED. SO, WITH THAT, I'LL TURN
IT OVER TO OUR COMMITTEE, MISTER
FONG, THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIR
ALVAREZ. AND THANK YOU,
PANELISTS FOR A ROBUST
DISCUSSION ON THESE PROGRAMS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR
LEADERSHIP AND EFFORTS AROUND
THIS EFFORTS AS WELL. AND THANK
YOU TO THE DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE
FOR THE CLARIFICATION THAT THE
NEGOTIATIONS ARE ONGOING. AS WE
LOOK AT, PUTTING THE MEAT ON THE
BONES ON THIS, PROPOSAL AND AS
A, WE KNOW THAT OUR COMMUNITY
COLLEGES ARE IMPACTED WITH,
NURSING PROGRAMS AND THERE'S A
HIGH DEMAND FOR THESE PROGRAMS,
ANECDOTALLY, I'VE TALKED TO, THE
PRESIDENT AND LEADERS AT EAST
L.A. COLLEGE, AT HARBOR COLLEGE,
AT SOUTHWEST COLLEGE. THANK YOU,
IN TERMS OF THE WAIT PERIOD,
IT'S TWO YEARS, THREE YEARS TO
ACCESS CLASSES IN SOME OF THESE
NURSING PROGRAMS, ESPECIALLY AT
THE PROGRAMS HAVE BEEN IMPACTED.
AND I'M PRETTY SURE THAT UP AND
DOWN THE STATE, WE SEE A LOT OF
NEED FOR THESE VERY IMPORTANT
PROGRAMS AND HEALTH CARE AND
NURSING. SO I JUST WANT TO HELP
WITH THAT AS WELL, AND THANK YOU
TO WHEN WE LOOK AT PAGE 16 AND
17, ALSO INDICATING LONG TIME
SHORTAGES IN THE SAN FRANCISCO
BAY AREA, CENTRAL VALLEY AND
CENTRAL COAST AS WELL, SO THAT
WE KNOW THAT THERE'S REGIONAL
SHORTAGES, GOING FORWARD AS
WELL, AND THEN JUST ANECDOTALLY,
A LOT OF TRAVELING NURSES THAT
COME TO OUR HOSPITALS AND
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA AND THE LOS
ANGELES AREA, SO IN TERMS OF THE
WORK THAT WE CAN DO TO EXPAND
NURSING PROGRAMS, THAT'S
SOMETHING THAT BE, STRONGLY
ADVOCATING FOR. AND THE $60
MILLION THERE IS, SORT OF ON IN
TERMS OF THAT FRAMEWORK, AND
CHAIR ALVAREZ ASKED A QUESTION
ON STRONG WORKFORCE AND IN THE
NEXT SESSION AS WELL, WE SEE
THAT THERE'S $381 MILLION LEFT
IN THAT. AND I JUST HEARD FROM
THE CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE THAT
IT'S POSSIBLY A LOT OF THOSE
FUNDS ARE GOING TO BE USED FOR
EMERGING SECTORS, AND I KNOW
WITH, LA, THE LA REGIONAL
CONSORTIUM THERE, THEY'RE
LOOKING AT DIFFERENT SECTORS
WITH PARTNERSHIP WITH THE LA
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
CORPORATION, BUT I THINK AT THE
SAME TIME WITH THESE
CHALLENGING, BUDGET SITUATIONS,
THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK AT ALL
AVENUES. SO I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE
LOOKING AT THOSE AVENUES AS
WELL. SO QUICK QUESTION IS, WE
KNOW THERE'S CHALLENGES ALSO TO
EXPAND A NURSING PROGRAMS AS
WELL, SOMETIMES LOOKING FOR
QUALIFIED FACULTY AND CLINICAL
SITES. WHAT ARE SOME POSSIBLE
SOLUTIONS, TO HELP ADDRESS THE
NURSING FACULTY SHORTAGE AND,
AND LACK OF CLINICAL SITES? I'LL
JUST THROW IT OPEN TO THE
CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE OR ANYBODY
LIKE TO ANSWER THAT. I CAN GET
STARTED. YOU KNOW, ON THE
FACULTY SHORTAGE, WE'RE AWARE
THAT THERE, THAT REQUIRES THE
MSN, THE MASTER'S OF SCIENCE AND
NURSING DEGREE, AND I KNOW THAT
CHANCELLOR CHRISTIAN HAS BEEN
WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH OUR
CSU PARTNERS. CHANCELLOR GARCIA,
ON TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE
ROLE THAT OUR SYSTEM PLAYS IN
HELPING FEED INTO THAT PIPELINE
AS WELL. RIGHT. SO, LONGER TERME
LOOKING AT PROJECTIONS, MORE
STUDENTS ABLE TO GET INTO ADN
PROGRAMS AND THEN BSNS, WHETHER
THAT'S AT COMMUNITY COLLEGE OR
CSU, MEANS MORE STUDENTS WHO CAN
THEN GO INTO THE MASTER'S TRACK
AND COME BACK TO SERVICE
FACULTY. RIGHT. SO THE EXPANSION
OF THE, EXPANSION IS KIND OF A
WIN WIN WIN IN THAT REGARD. I
THINK I WOULD SAY, ON THE ON THE
CLINICAL PIECE, AGAIN, SPEAKING
TO THE LEADERS OF ONE OF OUR
CENTRAL VALLEY COMMUNITY COLLEGE
DISTRICTS YESTERDAY, SHE
REMINDED ME THAT THAT CAN OFTEN
BE LIKE A PROCTORED LEADERSHIP
COURSE TAUGHT BY A FACULTY
MEMBER. RIGHT, AND THAT THEY
HAVE, ADJUNCT FACULTY WHO, IF
THEY'RE ABLE TO, TO MAKE THEM
FULL TIME OR HIRE MORE FROM THE
FROM THE MSN POOL WOULD BE
AVAILABLE TO COME TO THEIR
CAMPUS AND TEACH THAT COURSE AND
PROVIDE THAT EXPERIENCE TO
STUDENTS. SO, NOT SAYING THAT
THIS PROPOSAL WOULD SOLVE BOTH
OF THOSE ISSUES IN ITS ENTIRETY,
BUT IT WOULD HELP SORT OF FEED
INTO THAT PIPELINE THAT'S
NECESSARY TO SOLVE THAT. THANK
YOU. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER
COMMENTS ON THAT? NO. THANK YOU
FOR THAT CONTEXT, MR.
MURATSUCHI, ANY QUESTIONS? PASS
IT OVER. MR. MURATSUCHI FOR SOME
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. THANK
YOU, THANK YOU. I HAD AN
OPPORTUNITY HERE.
ASSEMBLYMEMBERS. DÍAS BILL AND,
THE OUR HIGHER EDUCATION
COMMITTEE, BUT, SOME QUESTIONS,
WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THE
INFORMATION IN THE COMMITTEE
ANALYSIS, THERE'S A POINT MADE
THAT THOUSANDS OF QUALIFIED
APPLICANTS ARE TURNED AWAY BY
COMMUNITY COLLEGE PROGRAMS, WITH
THE CHART INDICATING MORE THAN
14,000 APPLICANTS. I JUST WANTED
TO CONFIRM THAT, THOUGH. THOSE
ALL THOSE 14,000 ARE ARE
QUALIFIED. THEY'RE QUALIFIED FOR
THE PROGRAM THAT THEY APPLY TO.
DID YOU WANT TO ANSWER THAT? NO.
GO AHEAD. THAT IS MY
UNDERSTANDING. IT'S THE
CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE'S REPORT.
BUT, EACH COMMUNITY COLLEGE
PROGRAM HAS A MINIMUM
QUALIFICATIONS IN ORDER FOR A
FOR A POTENTIAL STUDENT TO APPLY
CERTAIN COURSEWORK, THEY HAVE TO
TAKE WITH CERTAIN GRADES. AND SO
I WOULD IMAGINE THE CHANCELLOR'S
OFFICE INCLUDED THOSE
INDIVIDUALS WHO ADMIT AT LEAST
THE MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS.
TYPICALLY, THOUGH, AS WE'VE AS
THIS, HAS DISCUSSION HAS GONE
AND YOU'VE HEARD THERE ARE, MORE
QUALIFIED INDIVIDUALS THAN
ACTUAL SLOTS AND THAT AND THAT
THAT CAN VARY BY REGION AND BY
PROGRAM. BUT IN GENERAL, IF YOU
LOOK AT SYSTEM WIDE, THAT'S
TRUE. AND THAT'S BEEN TRUE FOR
YEARS, AND SO WHAT THE COLLEGES
DO, AND THEY'RE EMPOWERED TO BY
STATUTE IS THEY'RE ALLOWED TO
CHOOSE THOSE WITH THE MOST
QUALIFICATIONS, IN ORDER TO BE
ACCEPTED INTO THE PROGRAM. AND
THAT MIGHT INCLUDE THE
COURSEWORK THEY'VE TAKEN AND
GRADES, BUT ALSO IT COULD BE
WORK WITH, CERTAIN POPULATIONS,
ABILITY TO SPEAK ANOTHER
LANGUAGE. AND THOSE SORTS OF
FACTORS ARE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT
SO THE COLLEGES CAN PICK PEOPLE
THAT THEY SEE AS ARE REALLY THE
BEST FOR THE PROGRAM, WITH THE
HIGHEST CHANCE OF SUCCEEDING IN
THE PROGRAM, OKAY, TURNING THEN
TO, THIS, TABLE SHOWN ON PAGE 17
SHOWING THE SUPPLY AND DEMAND,
THE REGIONAL SUPPLY AND DEMAND,
I DON'T THINK I HEARD ANY
EXPLANATION AS TO WHY IT IS
THAT, THAT, ESPECIALLY, LIKE LOS
ANGELES SEEMS TO HAVE, A YOU
KNOW, THE HIGHER SUPPLY THAN
DEMAND, WHEREAS THE CENTRAL
VALLEY HAS, THE DEMAND EXCEEDS
THE SUPPLY. WHAT ARE THE MAIN
REASONS FOR THAT? I CAN
SPECULATE, I CAN SPECULATE,
ASSEMBLY MEMBER I WOULD JUST
POINT OUT THAT THIS IS A
PROJECTION FOR 2035. OKAY. SO
THE PROJECTION IS THAT 11 YEARS
FROM NOW, THERE MAY BE WE MAY
HAVE SUPPLY THAT EXCEEDS DEMAND
IN CERTAIN REGIONS LIKE LOS
ANGELES. AND JUST BASED ON MY
EXPERIENCE WORKING IN THE HIGHER
EDUCATION SYSTEM, MY
SEMI-EDUCATED GUESS WOULD HAVE
TO BE THAT THAT JUST HAS TO DO
WITH THE AVAILABILITY OF MORE
INSTITUTIONS OF HIGHER EDUCATION
IN REGIONS LIKE LOS ANGELES. YOU
KNOW, THE CENTRAL VALLEY IS,
THERE'S WHAT, 1 OR 2 CSU
CAMPUSES, ONE UC CAMPUS AND A
NUMBER OF COMMUNITY COLLEGES.
DELEON HAVE SOMETHING
ADDITIONAL. SO I WOULD I WOULD
AGREE, THIS IS A PROJECTION THAT
SAID, I HAVE HEARD AND SEEN
RESEARCH IN THE PAST SHOWING,
DIFFERENT LEVELS OF SUPPLY
DEMAND MISMATCHES BY REGION. SO
THAT I THINK THAT'S TRUE. YOU
HAVE, JUST BEFORE THE PANDEMIC
IN THE SACRAMENTO AREA, IN FACT,
YOU HAD NEWLY MINTED NURSES
COMING OUT WITH THEIR ASSOCIATE
DEGREE OR EVEN BACHELOR'S DEGREE
THAT HAD TROUBLE FINDING A JOB.
AND THEY THEY HAD TO SPEND SOME
TIMES A YEAR TO FIND A JOB, OR
GO TO ANOTHER PLACE, MAYBE MORE
IN THE, BAKERSFIELD AREA WHERE
YOU HAD, DIDN'T HAVE THAT KIND
OF MISMATCH. SO IN SOME CASES,
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WHERE
PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE, WHERE THEY
GO, THAT'S CONTRIBUTING TO AS
WELL. AND IT DOES VARY, BUT IT
ALSO SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE, YOU'RE
SAYING THAT THEY MAY BE,
MIGRATING TO WHERE THERE ARE
MORE JOB OPPORTUNITIES. THAT
DOES HAPPEN IF SOMEBODY CAN'T
FIND A JOB, IF THEY'RE ABLE TO
WITH FAMILY AND OTHER
OBLIGATIONS. ABSOLUTELY. IS THE
CASE WHERE YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO
HAVE A NURSING DEGREE, HAVE
TROUBLE FINDING A JOB IN A
CERTAIN REGION, WILL END UP
MOVING SOMEWHERE ELSE, LIKE SAN
JOAQUIN COUNTY, TO FIND A JOB
AGAIN. IF THEIR PERSONAL LIVES
AND YOU KNOW, WEREN'T, YOU KNOW,
ALLOW FOR IT AND, AND OTHER
FACTORS ARE IN PLACE AS WELL,
SUCH AS THE WORKING ENVIRONMENT
AT THE HOSPITAL. BUT WOULD THE
LAO AGREE THAT, THAT THAT, WITH
MR. O'BRIEN, THAT, I MEAN, THIS
SEEMS TO SUPPORT,
ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S DÍAS. POINT AND
EFFORT THAT IF YOU HAVE A
WORKFORCE SHORTAGE BECAUSE YOU
HAVE FEWER, HIGHER EDUCATION
INSTITUTIONS IN A REGION, THEN
IT WOULD MAKE, YOU KNOW, POLICY
SENSE TO TRY TO EXPAND, NURSING
PROGRAMS IN THESE UNDERSERVED
AREAS, THAT IS SO I GUESS I'M
ASKING THE LAO, YOU KNOW, DOES
IT MAKE SENSE? I MEAN, WE KNOW
WHEN WE HEARD THIS IN THE HIGHER
ED COMMITTEE, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU
KNOW, THE CALIFORNIA STATE
UNIVERSITY, OBJECTED TO THE
PROPOSAL BECAUSE BECAUSE THEY
SAW THE DUPLICATION BETWEEN THE
PROGRAMS, THE BACHELOR'S DEGREE
PROGRAMS PROVIDED BY THE CSUS
VERSUS THE COMMUNITY COLLEGES.
BUT IF, IN FACT, WE'RE HAVING
WORKFORCE SHORTAGES, YOU KNOW,
IN PART BECAUSE THERE ARE FEWER
HIGHER EDUCATION INSTITUTIONS IN
THE CENTRAL VALLEY, IT DOES SEEM
TO MAKE SENSE TO HAVE, EXPAND,
NURSING BACHELOR'S DEGREE,
NURSING, PROGRAMS TO COMMUNITY
COLLEGES THAT CAN PROVIDE MORE
ACCESS TO, THE CENTRAL VALLEY
COMMUNITIES. SO CURRENTLY THERE
ARE, I BELIEVE, 78 COMMUNITY
COLLEGES THAT HAVE ASSOCIATE
DEGREE PROGRAMS, ASSOCIATE
DEGREE IN NURSING PROGRAMS. I'M
NOT. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD
BE PRETTY EASILY FOUND OUT HOW
MANY ARE IN THE CENTRAL VALLEY,
TO THE EXTENT THAT THAT A
REGION, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY
COLLEGES HAVE A LOT OF AUTONOMY,
THEY HAVE THEIR OWN LOCAL BOARDS
AND THEIR LOCAL LEADERS THAT
DECIDE WHAT IS THAT LOCAL NEED.
AND TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU HAVE
A COLLEGE NOW IN THE CENTRAL
VALLEY OR ANYWHERE IN THE STATE
THAT DOES NOT HAVE A NURSING
PROGRAM BUT HAS TALKED WITH
INDUSTRY AND DETERMINED THAT
THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ONE,
THEY HAVE THE ABILITY ALREADY TO
START UP A PROGRAM, BUT WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT THE BILL PROPOSAL
WAS TO ALLOW COMMUNITY COLLEGES
TO PROVIDE A BACHELOR'S DEGREE
PROGRAM, EVEN WHERE THERE IT
MIGHT BE IN DUPLICATION WITH
THE. YEAH, JUST AND JUST TO BE
CLEAR, ONE DOES NOT HAVE TO HAVE
A BACHELOR'S DEGREE TO PRACTICE
AS A NURSE. THE ASSOCIATE DEGREE
FOR NURSE TO BECOME A NURSE,
WHETHER YOU HAVE AN ASSOCIATE
DEGREE OR A BACHELOR'S DEGREE OR
AN ENTRY LEVEL MASTER'S, THE
INDIVIDUAL TAKES THE SAME TEST.
IT'S THE SAME NATIONAL LICENSURE
TEST. AND THEY HAVE THEY HAVE TO
SHOW THEY HAVE THE SAME
ABILITIES, AND IN FACT, THE DATA
I'VE SEEN SHOWS THAT NURSES
COMING FROM ASSOCIATE DEGREE
PROGRAMS ACTUALLY HAVE HIGHER
PASS RATES THAN THOSE COMING
FROM BACHELOR PROGRAMS. SO I
THINK IT WOULD JUST THE, THE,
THE LEGISLATURE, THE COMMITTEE
WOULD JUST NEED TO BETTER
UNDERSTAND WHAT, WHAT THAT
BACHELOR'S DEGREE IS BRINGING,
WHAT ADDITIONAL, YOU KNOW,
ATTRIBUTES. IT'S BRINGING
TALKING WITH HOSPITALS
IDENTIFYING IS THAT ALL THEY'RE
HIRING THEY'RE NOT HIRING
ASSOCIATE'S DEGREES. I DON'T
THINK THAT'S THE CASE RIGHT NOW.
SO, BUT IT WOULD TAKE BETTER
UNDERSTANDING WHETHER THAT
NURSING, THE SET OF SKILLS ONE
NEEDS TO BE A NURSE REALLY IS
ALIGNED STILL WITH AN ASSOCIATE
DEGREE OR WHETHER IT NOW IT DOES
REQUIRE, IN FACT, A BACHELOR'S.
AND THE DATA I'VE SEEN TO DATE
HAS NOT SHOWN THAT. BUT BUT THIS
IS AN EVOLVING PROFESSION. OF
COURSE, ALL THE TIME, IT NEW
COMPETENCIES ARE REQUIRED. ALL
RIGHT, ASSEMBLYMEMBER, I WOULD
JUST NOTE THAT, THE DATA WE HAVE
SEEN SHOWS THAT, OVERWHELMING
MAJORITY OF NEW NURSING JOBS AS
WELL AS HOSPITALS ARE INTERESTED
IN HIRING BSNS. AND THAT THAT
IS, CERTAINLY THAT THERE IT'S
NOT THAT THERE ARE NO
OPPORTUNITIES AVAILABLE FOR ADNS
, BUT THAT THAT OPPORTUNITY IS
SHRINKING SOMEWHAT AND THAT BY
ONLY BEING ABLE TO OFFER THE
ADRIN OUR COLLEGES ARE NOT, YOU
KNOW, IN THIS GROWING ECONOMY,
ARE NOT ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT
OPPORTUNITY TO STUDENTS WHO,
MIGHT FIND THEMSELVES UNABLE TO
GET INTO A BSN PROGRAM OR TO
APPLY AT A HOSPITAL THAT WANTS A
BSN. THAT WAS IT A GOOD POINT TO
RAISE. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT
REMINDS ME SOMETHING ELSE THE
LEGISLATURE WOULD NEED TO BETTER
UNDERSTAND AND IS WHETHER
BECAUSE THERE ARE A NUMBER OF
PATHWAYS FROM AN ASSOCIATE
DEGREE TO A BACHELOR'S DEGREE,
AND THAT'S TRUE FOR NURSING.
THAT'S TRUE FOR MANY, MANY,
PATHWAYS, FROM ACCOUNTING TO
ENGINEERING, WHERE YOU HAVE
ASSOCIATE DEGREE AND ACCOUNTING
AND A BACHELOR'S. SO THE
LEGISLATURE WOULD WANT TO BETTER
UNDERSTAND. IS THERE SOMETHING
ABOUT THE PATHWAY BETWEEN THE
ASSOCIATE DEGREE TO THE
BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN NURSING
THAT SOMEHOW NOT STREAMLINED?
THAT'S THAT'S CREATING BARRIERS
FOR STUDENTS BECAUSE FOR THE
BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN NURSING,
STUDENTS ARE NOT TAKING,
INTENSIVE NURSING PROGRAMS. IT'S
MAINLY TWO ADDITIONAL NURSING
CLASSES, NOT LABS. IT'S A
RESEARCH CLASS AND A COMMUNITY
HEALTH UPPER DIVISION CLASS FOR
THE BACHELOR'S PLUS UPPER
DIVISION GENERAL EDUCATION. SO
LEGISLATURA WAS JUST BETTER NEED
TO UNDERSTAND ARE THERE BARRIERS
RIGHT NOW THAT ARE SOMEHOW
PREVENTING IT FROM GETTING THAT
BACHELOR'S DEGREE? IF THEY
ALREADY HAVE THEIR THEIR
ASSOCIATE DEGREE? AND RIGHT NOW
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF
PARTNERSHIPS BETWEEN THE
COLLEGES AND CAL STATE
UNIVERSITY. BUT THE LEGISLATURE
MIGHT DECIDE THAT THAT'S NOT
ENOUGH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
TO THE PANELISTS. LOOK FORWARD
TO HEARING BACK SOME OF THIS
INFORMATION WE'VE DISCUSSED.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT ISSUE,
WHICH IS PAST APPROPRIATIONS, A
REVIEW OF PAST APPROPRIATIONS.
AND WE HAVE, LEGISLATIVE ANALYST
OFFICE WHO WILL KICK OFF THE
CONVERSATION, FOLLOWED BY
DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE AND THE
COMMUNITY COLLEGE CHANCELLOR'S
OFFICE. SO, LEO, PLEASE GO
AHEAD. THANK YOU, NOW, PAGE 20
ON THE AGENDA AND YOU'LL SEE A
FIGURE ON PAGE 21. SO OVER THE
PAST SEVERAL YEARS, THE STATE
HAS ADOPTED MANY ONE TIME
INITIATIVES FROM 20 2122 THROUGH
20 2324, THE LEGISLATURE
APPROVED ABOUT $3 BILLION ONE
TIME FOR MORE THAN 60 COMMUNITY
COLLEGE INITIATIVES, AND THE
LEGISLATURE WAS ABLE TO DO THAT
BECAUSE OF REVENUE GROWTH IN THE
STATE BECAUSE OF THE GROWTH IN
THAT PROPOSITION, 98 GUARANTEE,
THE LEGISLATURE WAS ALSO ABLE TO
PROVIDE FUNDING FOR NEW AND
EXISTING ONGOING PROGRAMS IN
LIGHT OF THE STATE'S BUDGET
SITUATION. IN, DECEMBER AND
JANUARY, OUR OFFICE CONSULTED
WITH THE CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE TO
IDENTIFY ANY UNUSED, UNCLAIMED
OR UNALLOCATED FUNDS FROM THESE
INITIATIVES AND PROGRAMS. YOU
KNOW, THE LEGISLATURE, IN TAKING
A LOOK AT WHAT ARE SOME POSSIBLE
APPROACHES TO ADDRESSING THIS
BUDGET SITUATION, THE
LEGISLATURE COULD ACHIEVE ONE
TIME SAVINGS BY REVERTING
AVAILABLE FUNDS FROM GIVEN
YEARS. AND TO THE EXTENT A
PROGRAM IS ONGOING AND THERE IS
AN OPERATING SURPLUS, THE
LEGISLATURE COULD GENERATE
ONGOING SAVINGS. AND WE THINK
THIS IS PREFERABLE TO FIRST LOOK
FOR FUNDS THAT ARE UNUSED,
UNCLAIMED, UNALLOCATED. TO USE
THIS BUDGET SOLUTION, RATHER
THAN HAVING TO GO INTO, MONEY
THAT THE DISTRICTS ALREADY HAVE
AND ARE, ARE SPENDING, SO THAT'S
SOMETHING THAT WE ATTEMPTED TO
DO. ON FIGURE TEN, YOU CAN SEE A
LIST AND I DON'T THINK IT'S AN
EXHAUSTIVE LIST. THE
CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE WOULD HAVE
SOME OTHERS, I'M SURE, AND SOME
UPDATES AS WELL ON ON FUNDING
THAT'S STILL AVAILABLE, SO WE'D
LIKE TO POINT OUT, AND THIS HAS
BEEN MENTIONED A FEW TIMES, THAT
STRONG WORKFORCE PROGRAM MONEY,
THERE'S MONEY THAT HASN'T BEEN
SPENT FROM 20, 2021. AND WE JUST
GOT AN UPDATE FROM THE
CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE OF THE 250
PLUS MILLION DOLLARS THAT THE
COLLEGES AND DISTRICTS AND
REGIONS HAVE IN THE CURRENT
YEAR, THEY'VE ONLY SPENT ABOUT 2
MILLION OF IT THROUGH THE FIRST
HALF OF THE YEAR. AND THAT'S
BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T SPENT PAST
YEAR MONEY. SO IT'S REALLY AN
OPPORTUNITY HERE FOR THE
LEGISLATURE TO LOOK, TO TAKE A
LOOK AT UNSPENT MONEY AND
POTENTIALLY USE IT FOR BUDGET
SOLUTION AND WE RECOMMEND YOU DO
SO, AND JUST WANT TO POINT OUT
ANOTHER EXAMPLE IS THE LONG
STANDING PART TIME FACULTY
HEALTH INSURANCE PROGRAM FOR A
NUMBER OF YEARS, I WAS ABOUT A
HALF $1 MILLION TO THE
LEGISLATURE PROVIDE ONGOING
MONEY IN 2022, 23, THE STATE
PROVIDED A BIG AUGMENTATION TO
THAT, ABOUT 400 FOLD INCREASE TO
$200 MILLION. AND IN THE FIRST
YEAR OF THAT EXPANDED PROGRAM,
MOST OF THAT FUNDING DID GO
UNCLAIMED BY DISTRICTS. IN SOME
CASES, THEY JUST MAYBE DIDN'T
HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO ORGANIZE AND
TALK TO THEIR UNIONS ABOUT
WHETHER TO DO IT OR NOT. BUT
REGARDLESS, THIS IS AN ONGOING
PROGRAM. SO THERE'S A FRESH NEW
$200 MILLION IN THE CURRENT
YEAR. AND SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING
THAT YOU REVERT THE UNCLAIMED
MONEY FROM 2223 AND USE IT AS
BUDGET SOLUTION. AND THE
LEGISLATURE COULD CONSIDER THIS
LIST, AS I MENTIONED, AS A
STARTING POINT, ADDING MORE
INFORMATION AS INFORMATION
BECOMES AVAILABLE, AND AGAIN,
THERE MIGHT BE SOME ADDITIONAL,
MONIES OUT THERE THAT FINANCE
AND, AND THE CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE
HAS LOOKED AT SINCE WE DID OUR
REPORT IN FEBRUARY. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. JUST THANK YOU.
JUSTIN HURST, DEPARTMENT OF
FINANCE. I DON'T HAVE A FORMAL
PRESENTATION, BUT I WILL BRIEFLY
NOTE THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF
FINANCE ROUTINELY SWEEPS UNSPENT
AND UNCOMMITTED FUNDING FROM THE
COMMUNITY COLLEGES. THAT CAN
THEN BE REAPPROPRIATED FOR OTHER
PURPOSES UNDER PROP 98, SO THE
ADMINISTRATION'S GOALS, I WILL
ALSO NOTE, ARE TO PROVIDE
COMMUNITY COLLEGES WITH STABLE
AND PREDICTABLE FUNDING. AND AS
THE LAO HAS NOTED IN THE AGENDA
AND JUST NOW BRIEFLY, THESE
AMOUNTS MAY ALSO CHANGE BY THE
TIME OF THE BUDGET ACT. SO IT'S
HARD TO PREDICT WHAT THE
REALIZED SAVINGS WOULD BE, AT
THIS TIME. AND THAT'S ALL I
HAVE. I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY
QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.
COUNSELORS, OFFICE. RENEE FINCH,
VICE CHANCELLOR OF COLLEGE
FINANCE AND FACILITIES, AGAIN,
COMMUNITY COLLEGES REALLY
APPRECIATES THE STABILITY AND
CONTINUED SUPPORT THAT WAS
PROVIDED IN THE GOVERNOR'S
BUDGET. AND WE DO WORK VERY
CLOSELY WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF
FINANCE ON REGULAR
REAPPROPRIATION DRILLS TO
IDENTIFY THE EXACT AMOUNTS THAT
ARE AVAILABLE FOR
REAPPROPRIATION. I WANT TO SHARE
SOME REALLY GOOD NEWS AND A
FUNDAMENTAL TRUTH ABOUT
COMMUNITY COLLEGE FUNDING. THE
STATE IS RECEIVING AN ENVIABLE
RETURN ON INVESTMENT IN ITS
INVESTMENTS IN COMMUNITY COLLEGE
PROGRAMS. IN RECENT YEARS, OUR
COLLEGES ADDED OVER $128 BILLION
IN INCOME TO CALIFORNIA'S
ECONOMY, WHICH IS ABOUT 4% FOR A
LITTLE OVER 4% OF THE GROSS
STATE PRODUCT, OUR COMMUNITY
COLLEGES SUPPORT A MILLION AND A
HALF JOBS OR ONE OUT OF EVERY 16
JOBS IN CALIFORNIA. AND FOR
EVERY DOLLAR THAT YOU INVEST IN
A COMMUNITY COLLEGE STUDENT, THE
STATE CAN EXPECT A RETURN OF
$2.10 IN ADDED TAX REVENUE IN
THE FUTURE, SO WE CERTAINLY
UNDERSTAND THAT TOUGH DECISIONS
NEED TO BE MADE THIS YEAR. AND
WE WOULD ASK THAT THE
LEGISLATURE CONSIDER DEFERRALS
OF FUTURE FUNDS RATHER THAN
PULLING BACK UNSPENT FUNDS. WHEN
YOU PULL BACK FUNDS FROM
DISTRICTS, AS HAS HAPPENED IN
RECENT YEARS, IT REALLY ERODES
TRUST IN THE STATE BUDGET
PROCESS, AND IT CAN ALIENATE THE
COMMUNITIES WHO ARE REALLY
COUNTING ON THAT FUNDING TO BE
AVAILABLE FOR THE PROGRAMS THAT
THEY CARE ABOUT AND NEED TO
THRIVE, AND IT UNDOES IN AN
INSTANT, MONTHS AND YEARS OF
PLANNING FOR THE MOST EFFECTIVE
USE OF PROGRAM FUNDS, WITH
STUDENTS ULTIMATELY BEARING THE
NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES OF THAT.
SO I WANT TO TALK ABOUT A FEW OF
THE REASONS WHY WE TYPICALLY
MIGHT HAVE UNSPENT FUNDS, IT
REALLY VARIES BY PROGRAM, BUT IN
GENERAL, WE'RE IMPLEMENTING AND
ADMINISTERING VERY COMPLEX
PROGRAMS, AND IT CAN TAKE A LOT
OF TIME TO DEVELOP PLANS, BUILD
BUY IN FOR THOSE PLANS AT THE
LOCAL AND REGIONAL LEVEL AND
STATE LEVEL FROM MANY, MANY
STAKEHOLDER GROUPS AND THEN
PHASE IN A VERY THOUGHTFUL,
STRATEGIC AND EFFECTIVE
IMPLEMENTATION OF THOSE PLANS.
THAT'S ESPECIALLY TRUE FOR SOME
OF THE LINE ITEMS IN THE CHART.
ZERO ZERO TEXTBOOK COSTS. THE
HEALTH CARE PATHWAYS FOR ENGLISH
LANGUAGE LEARNER AND STRONG
WORKFORCE FUNDS. I WANT TO SHARE
A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION
AND SOME UPDATES ON UNSPENT
FUNDS, FOCUSING ON FIVE OF THE
FIVE OF OUR PROGRAMS, INCLUDING
THE THREE I JUST MENTIONED, AND
A LITTLE BIT ON THE COVID 19
RECOVERY BLOCK GRANT AND THE
STUDENT CENTERED OR EXCUSE ME,
STUDENT SUCCESS COMPLETION GRANT
, SO JUST BRIEFLY, THE ZERO
TEXTBOOK COST INITIATIVE OF,
WE'RE SHOWING ABOUT 66 MILLION
THAT TO DATE HAS NOT BEEN
DISTRIBUTED. HOWEVER WE'RE IN
THE FINAL PHASE OF A
MULTI-PERIOD IMPLEMENTATION
PLAN, AND WE HAVE A COMPETITIVE
GRANT PROCESS FOR THOSE FUNDS.
SO AS COMPETITIVE GRANTS COME IN
FOR ACCELERATION GRANTS, IMPACT
GRANTS AND EXPANSION GRANTS,
WHERE THAT MONEY'S GOING OUT THE
DOOR EVERY TIME AN ELIGIBLE
GRANT COMES IN, WE DO EXPECT ALL
THAT MONEY WILL BE, HAVE BEEN
GRANTED TO DISTRICTS BY DECEMBER
OF 2024 FOR THE HEALTH CARE
PATHWAYS FOR ENGLISH LANGUAGE
LEARNERS. AGAIN, WE HAVE A
COMPETITIVE GRANT, PROCESS,
WHICH IS OUR FINAL PHASE OF A
PLANNED STRATEGIC, MULTIYEAR
IMPLEMENTATION. AND WE EXPECT
ALL OF THAT FUNDING TO BE
DISTRIBUTED BY FALL OF 2025, FOR
STRONG WORKFORCE, WE'RE SEEING A
LITTLE OVER 320 MILLION UNSPENT
ACROSS THE YEARS MENTIONED IN
THE REPORT. BUT AGAIN, THIS IS
ONE THAT'S BASED ON LONG TERME
PLANNING WITH REGIONAL REGIONAL
PARTNERSHIPS WITH EMPLOYERS AND
INDUSTRY LEADERS, NOT TO MENTION
OUR HIGHER EDUCATION LEADERS,
THE INTENT OF THESE FUNDS IS TO
INCREASE THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS
AND QUALITY CTE COURSES AND
PROGRAMS AND PATHWAYS THAT
ACHIEVE A SUCCESSFUL WORKFORCE
OUTCOMES AND INCREASE THE NUMBER
OF PROGRAMS AND PATHWAYS
AVAILABLE TO STUDENTS. SO THESE
ARE YOU KNOW, THESE ARE REALLY
LONG TERME PLANS THAT ARE BEING
MADE TO TRAIN NURSES,
FIREFIGHTERS, CONSTRUCTION
WORKERS, UNDERWATER WELDERS,
AUTOMOTIVE AND EV MECHANIC TECHS
AND MANY, YOU KNOW, MANY OTHER
TRADES THAT ARE ESSENTIAL TO
ADJUSTING OUR CHANGING CLIMATE
AND ECONOMY. AND FOR EMERGING
SECTORS THAT ARE NECESSARY FOR
THE STATE TO MAINTAIN A SOLID
WORKFORCE, WITH CALIFORNIA'S
UNEMPLOYMENT RATE TICKING UPWARD
AND THE LONG TERME EFFECTS OF
INFLATION STARTING TO WEAR US
DOWN A LITTLE, I THINK NOW MORE
THAN EVER IS THE TIME TO
CONTINUE TO INVEST IN THE
WORKFORCE OF THE FUTURE, AND
THEN I'M GOING TO CIRCLE BACK TO
THE COVID 19 RECOVERY BLOCK
GRANT, WHICH WAS, PROVIDED AT TO
DISTRICTS, A COUPLE OF YEARS
BACK WHEN THEY WERE ALSO
RECEIVING A HUGE INFLUX OF
FEDERAL DOLLARS FOR SIMILAR
PURPOSES. THE FEDERAL FUNDS HAD
MUCH SHORTER EXPENDITURE
DEADLINES, WHILE THE STATE
RECOVERY BLOCK GRANT DID NOT
HAVE THAT SHORT DEAD EXPENDITURE
DEADLINE. SO COLLEGES WERE
REALLY PRIORITIZED HUSING
SPENDING DOWN THEIR FEDERAL
DOLLARS FIRST, AND NOW THEY'RE
VERY QUICKLY AND EFFECTIVELY
USING THAT RECOVERY BLOCK GRANT
FOR ITS INTENDED AND EXPANDED
PURPOSES, THEY HAVE A REPORTED
JUST THIS MONTH TO US THAT
THERE'S A LITTLE OVER 240
MILLION REMAINING, BUT THEY
FULLY INTEND TO USE IT WITHIN
THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS FOR THE
PURPOSES OF THE BLOCK GRANT. AND
THEN I THINK I WAS GOING TO ALSO
TALK ABOUT THE STUDENT SUCCESS
COMPLETION GRANT, SO THIS WAS
FIRST ALLOCATED WITH EXPANDED
ALLOWABLE K¾T FOR FORMER FOSTER
YOUTH JUST IN LAST YEAR IN 2223,
CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE GUIDANCE
ALLOWED FOR MULTI YEAR USE OF
THESE FUNDS. AND IN FACT WE'VE
ACTUALLY SUBMITTED A REQUEST TO
THE DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE FOR
TRAILER BILL LANGUAGE TO CLARIFY
THAT THESE FUNDS CAN BE USED
OVER A THREE YEAR PERIOD, WHICH
WOULD ALLOW FOR US TO ADJUST FOR
FLUCTUATIONS IN THE ELIGIBLE
STUDENT POPULATION, THESE GRANTS
ARE REALLY CRITICAL TO PROVIDE
STUDENTS WITH THE FUNDS THEY
NEED TO COMPLETE COLLEGE ON TIME
AND AT. AS OF A SURVEY JUST THIS
LAST WEEK, WE'RE ESTIMATING
THERE'S ABOUT 21 MILLION
REMAINING OF THE STUDENT SUCCESS
COMPLETION GRANT FROM 2223,
THERE'S JUST ONE, ONE OTHER
PROGRAM I WANT TO BRING TO YOUR
ATTENTION. IT'S REALLY A GREAT,
INNOVATIVE PROJECT THAT'S A
PRIORITY FOR BOTH CHANCELLOR
SONIA CHRISTIAN AND HER BOARD OF
GOVERNORS, AND THAT'S THE
PATHWAYS TO HIGHER EDUCATION FOR
ADULT LEARNERS. YOU WON'T SEE IT
ON YOUR LIST, BUT WE HAVE BEEN
WORKING WITH THE UNITED DOMESTIC
WORKERS ON A REALLY INNOVATIVE
NEW PARTNERSHIP TO DEVELOP
SKILLS, EDUCATION AND TRAINING
IN THE CARE ECONOMY. WE DO HAVE
A REQUEST IN TO THE DEPARTMENT
OF FINANCE AND THE LEGISLATURE
FOR 5 MILLION TO FUND TWO YEARS
OF THE NEXT PHASE OF THIS
PROJECT. I KNOW THAT UW WILL
LIKELY WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS
DURING PUBLIC COMMENT, AND WE
HAVE BEEN IN TOUCH BOTH WITH
CHAIR ALVAREZ AND OTHERS ABOUT
THIS PROPOSAL, SO, YOU KNOW, WE
AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO SAY WE'RE
GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK VERY
CLOSELY WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF
FINANCE TO IDENTIFY THE ACTUAL
AMOUNT OF REAPPROPRIATE FUNDS
AVAILABLE FOR REAPPROPRIATION.
AND I WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW, TOO,
THAT OUR SYSTEM, BECAUSE WE LACK
A CENTRALIZED DATA PLATFORM,
ANYTIME WE NEED REAL TIME
EXPENDITURE DATA, IT'S NOT
NECESSARILY GOING TO BE
AVAILABLE DOWN TO THAT
INDIVIDUAL PROGRAM LEVEL. EVERY
ONE OF THESE REQUESTS IS AN AD
HOC SURVEY OUT TO THE SYSTEM, A
VERY MANUAL AND INTENSIVE
PROCESS. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE.
SO PLEASE BEAR WITH US AS WE
GATHER APPROPRIATE DATA. THANK
YOU. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE
ALL OF YOUR INPUT, MAYBE WE
SHOULD START WITH IDENTIFYING
SOME FUNDING TO GET YOU A REAL
DATA BASE, TO GET YOU THE
ABILITY TO PROVIDE INFORMATION
FOR YOU, TO MAKE DECISIONS AS
YOU GO, BUT IT, LET ME ASK ABOUT
SO, SO I THINK ALL BUDGET
SUBCOMMITTEES, WHEN THEY HEAR
DOLLAR FIGURES IN BEES AS MR.
MURATSUCHI OFTEN REFERS TO,
THAT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, EARS PERK
UP BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WELL,
OVER IT APPEARS LIKE $1 BILLION,
IN PROGRAMS THAT HAVE NOT, SPENT
ALL THE ALLOCATIONS AND MAYBE,
MR. FERGUSON OR LEO. SORRY, OR,
FINANCE, I UNDERSTAND I'M VERY
SYMPATHETIC TO THE CONCERN OF
DISTRICTS AS IT TERMS, IN TERMS
OF, RELIABILITY. AND I THINK YOU
ARE TOO, IN TERMS OF
EXPECTATIONS FOR FUNDING. BUT
EVERY YEAR WE GO THROUGH THE
PROCESS OF, OF SWEEPING FUNDS OR
THERE'S PROBABLY A BETTER TERME
TO, WHERE WE GET THE FUNDS,
REVERT FUNDS THAT WERE NOT
UTILIZED BY, SPECIFIC PROGRAMS,
IN THIS CASE BY THE SYSTEM. SO
THIS IS A REGULAR OCCURRING
PROCESS, RIGHT? IT'S NOT
SOMETHING THAT WE JUST DO IN
TIMES OF DIFFICULT BUDGET
SITUATIONS. YEAH. THAT'S CORRECT
. IT'S A REGULAR PROCESS. WE
GENERALLY REFER TO IT AS THE
SWEEPS DRILL WHEN WE'RE WORKING
WITH BOTH THE COMMUNITY COLLEGES
AND THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION,
AND IT'S REALLY LOOKING AT THOSE
TRUE BALANCES THAT ARE
COMPLETELY UNALLOCATED. THEY
REALLY HAVEN'T LEFT THE AGENCIES
AND GONE OUT TO DISTRICTS,
THAT'S GENERALLY WHAT WE LOOK AT
THIS YEAR. IT'S A BIT MORE
INTENSIVE IN THAT WE'RE ALSO
LOOKING POTENTIALLY AT MONEY
THAT MAY HAVE GONE TO DISTRICTS
THAT IS BEING UNUSED RIGHT NOW,
SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST
FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, WE
DEFINITELY LOOK AT THE FORMER
MORE THAN WE DO THE LATTER,
BECAUSE IN THE LATTER CASE, YOU
LITERALLY WOULD BE ASKING
DISTRICTS TO RETURN MONEY TO THE
STATE. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR
HELPING EXPLAIN THAT, THERE ARE
CERTAINLY THINGS AS WAS
EXPRESSED BY THE CHANCELLOR'S
OFFICE THAT I THINK MAYBE
REQUIRE, US BEING MORE CAREFUL
IN THAT PROCESS, LIKE THE ZERO
TEXTBOOK COST INITIATIVE, IF
THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE BEING
IMPLEMENTED. TOTALLY UNDERSTAND
THAT. BUT STRONG WORKFORCE
PROGRAM, WHICH GOES BACK TO FOUR
YEARS NOW, WITH WHICH WAS
INTENDED TO SERVE STUDENTS, WE
CAN NO LONGER SERVE THE STUDENTS
FROM 2020 OR 20 21 OR 20 22 OR
2023, AND NOW WE'RE HALFWAY
THROUGH 2024. SO, I WOULD JUST
IN MY FEEDBACK AS YOU GO THROUGH
THIS PROCESS, THAT THOSE SEEM TO
BE PLACES WHERE WE CAN IDENTIFY
VÌ, EITHER REVERTING, SWEEPING
OR AS WE DISCUSSED EARLIER WITH
THE PROGRAM FOR NURSING,
IDENTIFYING SOURCES OF FUNDS TO
DO THINGS THAT WE NOW BELIEVE
ARE PRIORITY. SO THAT WOULD BE,
MY FEEDBACK ON THIS ISSUE. LET
ME ASK SPECIFICALLY ON THE COVID
19 BLOCK GRANT. THE LEGISLATURE
WAS TO GET A REPORT BY MARCH 1ST
BY THE CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE ON
THE SPENDING BY DISTRICTS. HAS
THAT REPORT BEEN MADE AVAILABLE?
THE SPENDING BY DISTRICTS ON THE
BLOCK GRANT TO THE LEGISLATURE?
THAT REPORT IS GOING TO BE
AVAILABLE VERY SOON. IT'S IN THE
VERY FINAL STAGES OF REVIEW AND
REMEDIATION TO BE ABLE TO MAKE
IT PUBLIC. OKAY WILL THAT BE
BEFORE JUNE? YES, ABSOLUTELY.
OKAY. WILL YOU MAKE IT AVAILABLE
TO THE ADMINISTRATION BEFORE THE
MAY REVISE? WE CAN DO THAT. YES.
OKAY I'LL TURN IT OVER NOW TO MY
COLLEAGUES. MR. FONG, THANK YOU
SO MUCH, MR. CHAIR. AND THANK
YOU. FOR ALL THE PRESENTATIONS
HERE TODAY, I JUST WANT TO
FOLLOW UP ON THE STRONG
WORKFORCE FUNDS. AND WE SEE THAT
$381 MILLION IS CURRENTLY,
THERE. IS IT? HOW WOULD YOU HAVE
THE NUMBERS BROKEN UP BY
REGIONAL CONSORTIUM VERSUS,
COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT? SO
LET ME TURN TO MY CHART. SO FOR
STRONG WORKFORCE, AND I HAVE IT
BROKEN DOWN PER YEAR. I DIDN'T
TOTAL IT BY ALL ALL THREE YEARS.
BUT FOR IN 2021 WE HAVE A
REMAINING 18.1 MILLION AT
DISTRICTS AND 17.5 AT THE
REGIONAL CONSORTIA. 2122. THAT
NUMBER IS 46 MILLION FOR
DISTRICTS AND 19.9 FOR REGIONAL
CONSORTIA. IN 22, 23, 134.9
MILLION FOR DISTRICTS, 89.5 FOR
THE REGIONAL CONSORTIA IS
REMAINING. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE
THERE IS MORE FUNDS AT THE
COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT
VERSUS THE REGIONAL CONSORTIA,
SO CAN YOU PROVIDE THAT CHART TO
US? I DON'T THINK IT WAS IN OUR.
SORRY, I DID FORWARD IT TO,
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MOORE.
AND YES, I BELIEVE YOU'RE RIGHT.
IF WE ADD THAT UP, YOU'RE GOING
TO SEE MORE AT THE DISTRICTS.
OKAY? BECAUSE I KNOW THE
ALLOCATION MODEL WAS WE WENT 60%
TO COMMUNITY COLLEGES AND 40% TO
THE REGIONAL CONSORTIUM. IS THAT
CORRECT? YES OKAY. SO ARE THERE
REGIONAL CONSORTIUM THAT ARE
DOING A BETTER JOB IN GETTING
THE FUNDS OUT? AND HOW CAN WE
REPLICATE SOME OF THOSE
STRATEGIES TO WE KNOW THAT IN
CALIFORNIA WE HAVE OVER A 5%
UNEMPLOYMENT RATE, I BELIEVE WAS
THE HIGHEST IN THE NATION. AND
WE WILL LOOK AT CREATING
TRAINING PROGRAMS AND BIOTECH
AND HEALTHCARE NURSING AND MANY
OTHER PROGRAMS. EV MECHANICS, AS
YOU MENTIONED, I TOOK A TOUR OF
RIO HONDO LAST YEAR, AND THEY
HAVE A TREMENDOUS EV, MECHANICS
TRAINING PROGRAM THERE. HOW CAN
WE GET SOME OF THESE FUNDS OUT,
MORE EXPEDITIOUSLY? I KNOW
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE
INDUSTRY PARTNERS AND BUILDING
OUT THE CONSORTIUM AND BUILDING
OUT THE PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE
WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT BOARDS AND
COMPANIES AS WELL. SO I LOVE
THAT YOU ASKED THAT QUESTION,
BECAUSE THAT IS EXACTLY THE
QUESTION WE ARE ASKING OURSELVES
INTERNALLY AND REALLY DOING A
DEEP DIVE. WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW,
SOME WONDERFUL FOLKS ON OUR
STAFF WHO ARE DOING A DEEP DIVE
WITH EACH REGIONAL CONSORTIA TO
IDENTIFY WHERE WE CAN REPLICATE
SUCCESSES AND TO, YOU KNOW, AND
SEE WHERE WE NEED TO INVEST IN
MORE MONEY AND, YOU KNOW, IN
OTHER IN OTHER PROGRAMS. SO, YOU
KNOW, SOME OF THE I'LL SHARE
WITH YOU SOME OF THE AREAS THAT
I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT AND
STRONG WORKFORCE RIGHT NOW ARE
IN THAT CLIMATE ACTION. AND
CLIMATE ACTION PATHWAYS AREA, WE
JUST HAD A BLUE ECONOMY EVENT AT
SANTA MONICA COLLEGE AND ALTASEA
AT THE PORT OF LONG BEACH JUST
THIS LAST WEEK WHERE WE LEARNED
ABOUT WHAT THE COLLEGES IN THE
LOS ANGELES REGION ARE DOING TO
REALLY PROMOTE THESE REALLY
NECESSARY JOBS. WE'VE GOT A TOUR
WHERE WE LEARNED ABOUT, HOW YOU
CAN CULTIVATE SEAWEED, YOU KNOW,
AND HOW, YOU KNOW, IN
GENERATING, GENERATING WIND
ENERGY. SO JUST A LOT OF
EXCITING OPPORTUNITIES THERE. WE
HAVE A NUMBER OF DEMONSTRATION
PROJECTS THAT WE'RE MOVING
FORWARD. AND, THE HEALTH CARE
PATHWAYS FOR ENGLISH LANGUAGE
LEARNERS IS ONE OF THOSE, BUT A
NUMBER THAT, YOU KNOW, CAN
REALLY DRAW FROM THE SUPPORT OF
THE STRONG WORKFORCE FUNDS. AND
THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING THAT
CONTEXT ON HOW TO SAY THEY'RE
DOING A TREMENDOUS WORK DOWN IN
THE PORT. AS YOU MENTIONED, THE
PARTNERSHIPS WITH UCLA, USC AND
SOME OF THE COMMUNITY COLLEGES.
AND IN ADDITION, THE SEAWEED DID
SOME STUFF AROUND, I THINK,
ALTERNATIVE ENERGY AND OTHER
OPPORTUNITIES. SO IN TERMS OF
THE STRONG WORKFORCE FUNDS, THE
REGIONAL CONSORTIUM AND THE
COMMUNITY COLLEGES, WE KNOW THAT
WE JUST HAD A DISCUSSION ON THE
STUDENT CENTERED FUNDING FORMULA
AS WELL, AND HOW WE CAN INCREASE
THE NUMBER OF CERTIFICATES AND
THE STUDENT SUCCESS OUTCOMES. I
THINK IT COULD BE A WIN WIN ALL
THE WAY AROUND IF WE'RE ABLE TO
HELP, GET SOME OF THESE FUNDS
OUT ON THE STREET MORE QUICKLY
AND EXPEDITIOUSLY, I THINK I
WOULD ENCOURAGE FOLKS TO
CONTINUE TO ELEVATE SOME OF
THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND TO
REALLY MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE
GETTING THE OUTCOMES THAT WE
WANT TO SEE OUT OF THIS STRONG.
YEAH. DID YOU WANT TO CHIME IN
ON IT? I JUST WANTED TO ANSWER
YOUR FIRST QUESTION AS WELL,
BECAUSE WE DID WE DID LOOK AT
THE REGIONAL CONSORTIA MONEY,
THE STRONG WORKFORCE. WE FOUND
THAT ALL EIGHT REGIONS HAD
FAIRLY LARGE SURPLUSES, ANNUAL
SURPLUSES. THE REGIONS WITH THE
LARGEST ONES WERE THE CENTRAL
VALLEY, THE SOUTH CENTRAL COAST
AND THE INLAND EMPIRE. INLAND
EMPIRE DESERT. THOSE HAVE THE
LARGEST, YOU HAD SURPLUSES IN
THE BAY AREA AND NORTH, FAR
NORTH AND OTHER REGIONS. BUT THE
BIGGEST NGUYEN THOSE THREE I
JUST MENTIONED. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU FOR THAT CONTEXT. AND THANKS
FOR LOOKING AT THE DATA. I THINK
THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY TO
REALLY MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE
TRYING TO TACKLE OUR
UNEMPLOYMENT HERE IN CALIFORNIA
AND REALLY HELP THE COMMUNITY
COLLEGES BEING A WIN WIN
SITUATION. AND CONCERT AND
PARTNERSHIP WITH OUR WORKFORCE
DEVELOPMENT BOARDS OR LOCAL
REGIONAL CONSORTIA, GOING
FORWARD. SO I WOULD JUST
ENCOURAGE, ANYBODY LISTENING OUT
THERE THAT AS WE LOOK AT SCALING
UP THESE PROGRAMS AS, AS YOU
HEARD FROM OUR CHAIR THAT, YOU
KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT FUNDS
THAT HAVE BEEN DEPOSITED FOR AT
LEAST 3 OR 4 YEARS. AND SO THOSE
FUNDS, HOW ARE THEY ENCUMBERED?
HOW ARE THEY BEING PLANNED TO BE
SPENT DOWN? I THINK I WOULD LOVE
TO SEE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON
THAT GOING FORWARD, THANK YOU SO
MUCH, MR. MURATSUCHI. THANK YOU.
FOLLOWING ON, MR. FONG'S
QUESTIONS ABOUT THE STRONG
WORKFORCE PROGRAM, THE, THE
CHART SHOWING ON PAGE 21 OF THE
BUDGET ANALYSIS SHOWS $381
MILLION, RIGHT? I MY EVEN WITH
MY READING GLASSES, I'M TRYING
TO SEE IF THAT'S AN EIGHT
INSTEAD OF A FIVE, RIGHT. YEAH.
OKAY AND, WELL, FIRST OF ALL,
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT, THAT
THERE ARE THERE IS A COMMUNITY
COLLEGE PORTION OF THE STRONG
WORKFORCE PROGRAM AND A K 12
PORTION OF THE STRONG WORKFORCE
PROGRAM. IS THAT CORRECT? YES.
OKAY, DOES THAT $381 MILLION
INCLUDE K 12 STRONG WORKFORCE
PROGRAM DOLLARS? NO, THIS IS
JUST FOR COMMUNITY COLLEGES.
OKAY. AND I'LL JUST LET YOU KNOW
THAT WE'VE UPDATED THOSE
FIGURES. IT'S NOT PUBLISHED HERE
, BUT MARK. MARK HAS, HAS THEM
320 3.9 IS THE UPDATED AMOUNT
AVAILABLE AT THIS TIME? OKAY I
KNOW, ONE GOVERNOR, OUR PREVIOUS
GOVERNOR BROWN, FIRST CHAMPIONED
THE REGIONAL CONSORTIA. AS YOU
KNOW, AS A FORMER, REGIONAL
OCCUPATIONAL PROGRAM TRUSTEE
AND, YOU KNOW, I FULLY RECOGNIZE
THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING THESE,
REGIONAL CONSORTIA TO, TO
COORDINATE, OUR, WORKFORCE
TRAINING PROGRAMS WITH THE
REGIONAL EMPLOYMENT NEEDS. AT
THE SAME TIME, IT, I MEAN, IT'S
MY UNDERSTANDING THAT K 12
PROGRAMS ARE ALREADY WORKING
WITH THE REGIONAL PROGRAMS, AND
SO I'M, I'M STILL TRYING TO
UNDERSTAND WHY THE COMMUNITY
COLLEGES HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO
ROLL OUT WHAT OUR K 12 PROGRAMS
HAVE ROLLED OUT. I DON'T KNOW IF
THE LAO HAS ANY, INFORMATION. AM
I CORRECT THAT, THE K 12
PROGRAMS HAVE, BEEN SUCCESSFUL
IMPLEMENTING REGIONAL PROGRAMS,
IF NOT REGIONAL, WORKING WITH
REGIONAL CONSORTIA. SO IS YOUR
QUESTION WHETHER THE HIGH
SCHOOLS HAVE THEIR OWN REGIONS?
SO THERE WAS THE K 12 STRONG
WORKFORCE, PROGRAM, COMPONENT.
AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT
THAT REQUIRES, WORKING WITH
REGIONAL CONSORTIA AND MAYBE,
FINANCE KNOWS THIS ALSO, BUT
THAT'S RIGHT. THE COMMUNITY
COLLEGES WORK WITH THE SCHOOLS
TO AWARD THESE GRANTS. THE K 12
STRONG WORKFORCE PROGRAM. THE
IDEA IS TO INCREASE THE
ALIGNMENT BETWEEN HIGH SCHOOL
CAREER, TECHNICAL EDUCATION
PROGRAMS AND THEN THE FEEDER
THAT FEEDS INTO THE COMMUNITY
COLLEGE PROGRAMS. SO THAT'S THE
THAT'S THE POINT OF HAVING THIS.
AND THE PURPOSE OF HAVING THIS,
THIS PROGRAM, THE K 12 STRONG
WORKFORCE, IS THAT ALIGNMENT
PIECE. OKAY. WELL, I, I, I DID
HAVE A BILL LAST YEAR. AB THREE,
I HAD A BILL LAST YEAR THAT,
THAT WAS PROPOSING TO SHIFT THE
STRONG WORKFORCE PROGRAM DOLLARS
FOR THE K 12 FROM THE TO BE
ADMINISTERED, YOU KNOW, TO BE
MOVED FROM THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE
CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE TO THE
DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION. I KNOW
THAT, DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE HAS
HISTORICALLY OPPOSED THAT, MR.
FERGUSON, I WANTED TO SEE IF, IF
THIS THE FACT THAT THERE IS OVER
$300 MILLION IN UNSPENT STRONG
WORKFORCE PROGRAM DOLLARS MIGHT
LEND ITSELF TO SUPPORT MY
ARGUMENT THAT IT SHOULD BE MOVED
OVER TO THE DEPARTMENT OF
EDUCATION TO BE SPENT, RATHER
THAN THE CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE.
NO, I THINK MY COMMENTS FROM ONE
OF THE PRIOR HEARINGS WOULD
STILL STAND, AND I WOULD SAY
THAT THERE ARE TWO SIMILAR
FOCUSES, YET DIFFERENT
APPROACHES IN THE TWO PROGRAMS
IN THAT THE SIMILAR FOCUS IS
CAREER TECHNICAL EDUCATION
PROGRAMS AND WORKFORCE
DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS ON A
REGIONAL BASIS, THE DIFFERENCE
BEING THAT ONE IS FOCUSED ON
SCHOOL PROGRAMING AND ONE IS
FOCUSED ON COMMUNITY COLLEGE
PROGRAMING. IT IS LIKELY THAT,
GIVEN THE RETURN TO IN-PERSON
INSTRUCTION AND COMMUNITY
COLLEGE CAMPUSES AS PART OF THE
REASON THAT YOU'RE SEEING SOME
OF THOSE PRIOR BALANCES, BECAUSE
A LOT OF CAREER TECHNICAL
EDUCATION, VOCATIONAL TYPE
PROGRAMING, WORKFORCE
DEVELOPMENT, PROGRAMING IS ON
CAMPUSES OR HOUSED ON CAMPUSES.
SO I WOULD SPECULATE THAT'S
PROBABLY ONE OF THE CORE REASONS
THAT WE SEE SOME OF THOSE PRIOR
BALANCES, BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE
PANDEMIC YEARS, AND WE KNOW, AND
WE HAD TO PUSH, LAST YEAR AND
THE YEAR BEFORE WE HAD TO PUSH
DISTRICTS TO RETURN TO IN-PERSON
TO HAVE MORE ENROLLMENT GAINS,
SO CERTAINLY I THINK THAT WAS
PART OF THE REASON THAT YOU'RE
SEEING SOME OF THE BALANCES IN
THE PROGRAMS. I WOULD EXPECT
COLLEGES TO BEGIN SPENDING DOWN
THOSE RESOURCES NOW THAT THEY'VE
DEFINITELY SHIFTED AWAY FROM A
PREDOMINANCE OF HYBRID OR ONLINE
OPTIONS, BUT CERTAINLY THE FOCUS
REMAINS ON COORDINATED
PROGRAMING BETWEEN OUR SCHOOLS
AND OUR COLLEGES, AND, YOU KNOW,
CERTAINLY, UNDERSTAND THAT THERE
ARE TWO DIFFERENT APPROACHES,
WHETHER IT'S COLLEGES OR, K-12
EDUCATION. SO YOU'RE SAYING
THAT, BECAUSE THERE'S WELL,
COMMUNITY COLLEGES HAVE BEEN
SLOWER IN GETTING STUDENTS BACK
ON CAMPUS THAN OUR K-12, THAT
THAT MAY BE PART OF THE REASON.
YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
SO MUCH, MR. MURATSUCHI. AND
JUST ONE FINAL QUESTION. WHEN WE
LOOK AT THE SHIFT IN FUNDS FROM
THE 60% MODEL TO THE COMMUNITY
COLLEGES OF 40% AT THE REGIONAL
CONSORTIUM, AND WE'VE SEEN AN
IMPROVEMENT IN SOME OF THE
COMMUNITY COLLEGES SPENDING
THEIR STRONG WORKFORCE FUNDS AND
IF YES, WHICH ARE SOME OF THOSE
COLLEGES AND HOW CAN WE SHARE
THE BEST PRACTICES WITH OTHER
COLLEGES, COMMUNITY COLLEGES
ACROSS THE STATE? BECAUSE I
THINK THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD WORK
BEING DONE IN THIS SPACE. AND AS
THE DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE
MENTIONED, THE CHALLENGES DURING
A PANDEMIC. SO I REALLY WANT TO
SEE HOW WE CAN CONTINUE UPLIFT
THESE PROGRAMS, BUT ALSO, MEET
THE, TARGETED HIRING NEEDS OF
DIFFERENT INDUSTRIES. AND TO
MAKE IT A WIN WIN FOR THE
STUDENT CENTERED FUNDING FORMULA
IN TERMS OF THE CERTIFICATE
OUTCOMES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
THERE I AGREE. THANK YOU. SO THE
QUESTION IS WHICH COMMUNITY
COLLEGES? I SAID IT EARLIER.
COLLEGES ARE DOING IT BETTER.
AND HOW CAN WE SHARE THOSE BEST
PRACTICES. YEAH. SO I DON'T HAVE
DATA BY PER DISTRICT. BUT AS I
MENTIONED EARLIER, YOU KNOW,
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE
REALLY LOOKING INTO AND DRILLING
DOWN LOOKING FOR. EXCELLENT
EXAMPLES THAT WE CAN LIFT UP IN
THIS AREA. THANK YOU. SO WE'LL
GET A FOLLOW UP REPORT ON THAT.
ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
SO MUCH. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS.
SEEING NONE. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
PANELISTS APPRECIATE IT. OKAY.
YEAH OKAY I'M UP I THINK SHE'S
GOING TO DO ALL THE TALKING.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH,
NEXT UP WE HAVE ITEM ISSUE
NUMBER FOUR. CALBRIGHT COLLEGE
UPDATE, WE'D LIKE TO INVITE OUR
PANELISTS UP. TALWALKAR MENON,
PRESIDENT AND CEO OF CALBRIGHT
COLLEGE. AMY COSTA, PRESIDENT,
CALBRIGHT BOARD OF TRUSTEES.
LU T AGUINALDO, VICE PRESIDENT,
CALBRIGHT BOARD OF TRUSTEES
ALICIA RANGEL, CALBRIGHT.
STUDENT WELCOME. THANK YOU.
WELCOME, WELCOME, THANK YOU AND
GOOD MORNING, MEMBER FONG AND
MEMBERS OF THE BUDGET
SUBCOMMITTEE ON EDUCATION
FINANCE. AS YOU MENTIONED, I'M
AJIT MENON, PRESIDENT AND CEO OF
CALBRIGHT COLLEGE. AND I WANT TO
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO
BE HERE TODAY. FOR OVER 20
YEARS, I HAVE DEDICATED MY
CAREER TO FIGHTING FOR EQUITABLE
OPPORTUNITY AND STRONGER
OUTCOMES FOR UNDERSERVED
COMMUNITIES. AND I KNOW THAT YOU
HAVE TOO. BEFORE CALBRIGHT, I
HAD LED THIS IMPORTANT WORK
ACROSS AMERICAN HIGHER EDUCATION
ON CAPITOL HILL AT THE
DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION, AND AS
PRESIDENT OBAMA'S HIGHER
EDUCATION ADVISOR, OUR ACTIONS
FROM HISTORIC INVESTMENTS IN
COMMUNITY COLLEGES AND PELL
GRANTS TO SIMPLIFYING THE FAFSA
AND LAUNCHING THE COLLEGE
SCORECARD WERE ALL CENTERED
AROUND AN EDUCATION SYSTEM
RESPONSIVE TO THE REALITIES
FACED BY STUDENTS, ESPECIALLY AT
A TIME OF ECONOMIC UNCERTAINTY.
AND THAT'S A COMPASS I STILL
CARRY. I CAME TO CALBRIGHT IN
2020, INHERITING A FRACTURED
ORGANIZATION, EXPERIENCING A
STATE AUDIT, AND STRUGGLING AT
THE EARLIEST STAGES OF BUILDING
THE INNOVATIVE MODEL THAT ADULT
LEARNERS NEEDED AT BREAKNECK
SPEED. WE TURN THAT AROUND TO
BUILD A COLLEGE THAT DRIVES
LEARNER SUCCESS RESPONSIVE TO
THEIR NEEDS, THEIR GOALS, AND
WITH THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF
INNOVATIVE SUPPORT TO GET THEM
ACROSS THE FINISH LINE. I'M
PROUD TO SAY I NOW HAVE THE
RIGHT TEAM OF STUDENT SUCCESS,
LEARNING AND INSTRUCTION,
WORKFORCE TECHNOLOGY AND DATA
EXPERTS TO REFINE AND SCALE OUR
WORK FOR GREATER IMPACT
STATEWIDE. THE CHRONICLE OF
HIGHER EDUCATION SAID IT BEST
CALBRIGHT IS HITTING ITS STRIDE.
UNDER MY LEADERSHIP, WE RECEIVED
ACCREDITATION MORE THAN A YEAR
AHEAD OF SCHEDULE, VALIDATING
THE QUALITY OF OUR MODEL. OUR
ENROLLMENT INCREASED TO 800% TO
OVER 4000. WE BOOSTED
COMPLETIONS 400% TO NEARLY 600
COMPLETERS. WE'VE RATIFIED
CONTRACTS WITH OUR LABOR UNIONS
REPRESENTED BY CTA AND CSEA
LEADERS WHO ARE WITH US TODAY.
WE'RE COLLABORATING WITH UC
IRVINE SCHOOL OF EDUCATION AND
BEHAVIORAL DESIGN FIRM IDEAS42
TO TEST STUDENT SUCCESS METHODS
THAT INCREASE PROGRAM PROGRESS.
AND THEY'RE WORKING. WE'VE NOW
SERVING STUDENTS IN 52 OUT OF 58
COUNTIES IN CALIFORNIA,
INCLUDING 34 RURAL COUNTIES.
WE'VE DESIGNED AND VALIDATED 17
NEW PROGRAMS, 17 PROGRAMS
RESPONSIVE TO EVOLVING DEMANDS
IN OUR ECONOMY AND POSITIONED
FOR LEARNERS WITHOUT A DEGREE
AND WE ADDRESSED ALL
RECOMMENDATIONS PER THE STATE
AUDIT. WE SIT IN SERVICE OF THE
SYSTEM'S 2030 ROADMAP UPSKILLING
ADULT LEARNERS IN AN EQUITABLE
MANNER AND AS A DRIVER OF THIS
GOAL, CAL BRIGHT'S ACTIONS ARE
GUIDED BY THE LEARNERS. WE
SERVE. 70% OF STUDENTS ARE
BIPOC, ONE THIRD ARE PARENT
LEARNERS OR CAREGIVERS, 42% ARE
UNEMPLOYED, AND 53% HAVE
COMPETING WORK RESPONSIBILITIES.
ALICIA RANGEL IS ONE OF THEM.
ALICIA, WHO IS HERE WITH US
TODAY, IS AN IT SUPPORT STUDENT
AT CALBRIGHT AND A MEMBER OF THE
STUDENT BODY ORGANIZATION. SHE
ALSO WORKS FULL TIME FOR A
NONPROFIT AT A CHILDREN'S
HOSPITAL IN OAKLAND, A JOB SHE
LANDED AFTER REVAMPING HER
RESUME WITH CAL BRIGHT'S CAREER
SERVICES TEAM. AND HER PROGRESS
IS BASED ON SKILLS, NOT ON
SEMESTERS. JUST AS HER DAILY
LIFE DOES NOT FIT A TRADITIONAL
HIGHER ED MODEL, WHERE STUDENTS
ARE EXPECTED TO SHOW UP AT 2
P.M. IN THE MIDDLE OF THE
WORKDAY. THAT IS WHAT CALBRIGHT
SOLVES FOR, BUT WE CAN'T DO IT
ALONE. SUPPORTING STUDENTS LIKE
ALICIA REQUIRES SMART,
COLLABORATIVE WORK BEYOND HIGHER
EDUCATION, SO WE'VE DEEPENED OUR
REACH TO CONNECT WITH WORKFORCE,
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, BUSINESS
AND COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS
TOWARD THE SHARED GOAL OF
PROVIDING MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR
MORE CALIFORNIANS. WE'RE
ENGAGING PARTNERS SUCH AS
CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE AND THE
INLAND EMPIRE ECONOMIC
PARTNERSHIP TO BETTER INFORM OUR
REGIONAL ENGAGEMENT. AND WITH
LEADERS LIKE THOSE AT AT SHASTA
COLLEGE TO BETTER SERVE RURAL
COMMUNITIES AND AS A NEWLY
MINTED STATE PRE-APPRENTICESHIP
PROVIDER BY THE DIVISION OF
APPRENTICESHIP STANDARDS AND AN
ELIGIBLE TRAINING PROVIDER PER
THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR,
CALBRIGHT IS ALSO CONNECTING THE
DOTS BETWEEN STUDENTS AND
EMPLOYERS, LIKE WORKING WITH THE
CITY AND COUNTY OF SAN FRANCISCO
TO OFFER PAID TECH
APPRENTICESHIPS. WE'RE ALSO A
PART OF THE CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE
INITIATIVE WITH THE UNITED
DOMESTIC WORKERS, AND WE
CONTINUE TO PARTNER WITH SEIU,
UW ON ALLIED HEALTH, A PRIORITY
FOR OUR STATE, EMPLOYERS AND
COMMUNITIES ACROSS CALIFORNIA
ARE FACING SHORTAGES IN THE
HEALTH CARE PROFESSIONS. NOW, I
KNOW YOU HAVE TOUGH DECISIONS
AHEAD IN THIS BUDGET. CALBRIGHT
IS THE FIRST NEW COMMUNITY
COLLEGE DISTRICT IN 44 YEARS, A
CRITICAL PUBLIC OPTION FOR ADULT
LEARNERS. WE'RE DELIVERING
RESULTS, AND WE'VE SPENT THE
PAST FEW YEARS BUILDING UP THIS
INFRASTRUCTURE TO BE HIGH
QUALITY AND SCALABLE. WHILE
REMAINING STUDENT CENTERED. WE
ACTED IN A FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE
AND INTENTIONAL MANNER TO CARRY
OUT OUR STATUTORY MANDATE IN A
SUSTAINABLE WAY, AND TO MEET THE
SPECIFIC NEEDS OF EACH STUDENT.
AS WE GROW, WE'RE NOW SPENDING
ONE TIME FUNDS IN AN ACCELERATED
MANNER AGAINST A MULTIYEAR
STRATEGIC PLAN TO ONE INVEST IN
SCALABLE TECHNOLOGIES THAT
SUPPORT INFRASTRUCTURE TO
DELIVER THE BEST EXPERIENCE FOR
OUR STUDENTS. TWO MEET THE
GROWING DEMAND FOR CALBRIGHT
PROGRAMS AND THREE CONTRIBUTE
OUR R&D TO DRIVE STRONGER
OUTCOMES ACROSS THE CTC SYSTEM.
OUR RESOURCES ARE CRITICAL TO
BUILDING A SUSTAINABLE FUNDING
APPROACH ALIGNED WITH THE
FLEXIBILITY AND AFFORDABILITY
OUR STUDENTS NEED, WHILE
REACHING MORE COMMUNITIES WHEN I
ARRIVED AT CALBRIGHT, IT WOULD
HAVE BEEN EASY TO WRITE US OFF,
BUT WE'RE A DIFFERENT COLLEGE
THAN WE WERE IN 2020 AND OUR AND
AS OUR STATE'S UNEMPLOYMENT RATE
IS TOPPING THE NATION, WE CAN'T
AFFORD TO STRIP ACCESS TO
FLEXIBLE AND FREE TRAINING FOR
CALIFORNIANS TO DO SO. NOT ONLY
HARMS OUR MORE THAN 4000
STUDENTS REPRESENTING EACH ONE
OF YOUR REGIONS WHO RELY ON OUR
MODEL, BUT FUTURE STUDENTS
SEEKING TO ACCESS THIS MODEL,
LET ME BE CLEAR CALBRIGHT IS THE
MODEL FOR THE MOMENT. WE'RE IN.
WE'RE LEVERAGING THE BEST
TECHNOLOGY, DATA SCIENCE, AND
HUMAN POWERED SUPPORT TO UPSKILL
CALIFORNIANS AND GET THEM BACK
IN THE WORKFORCE. THANK YOU FOR
YOUR TIME TODAY. I'M HERE TODAY
WITH SEVERAL MEMBERS OF MY
EXECUTIVE TEAM, OUR BOARD AND
STUDENTS, ALICIA RANGEL, AND
WE'RE ALL HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
WELCOME WAS THAT THE FINAL AND
THEN THE PRESENTATION OKAY.
THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL THE TIME
YOU'VE ALLOTTED ME. ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. START OFF
WITH SOME QUESTIONS. THANK YOU
SO MUCH FOR THAT PRESENTATION. A
COUPLE QUESTIONS. YOU MENTIONED
A CAPITAL OUTLAY. WHY IS THE
COLLEGE SPENDING $9.7 MILLION ON
CAPITAL OUTLAY? IT'S A GREAT
QUESTION. AND I WANTED TO THANK
YOU FOR IT BECAUSE IT ACTUALLY
SPEAKS TO HOW WE'RE INNOVATING
AS A REMOTE COLLEGE. CAPITAL
OUTLAYS. LOOK REALLY DIFFERENT
AT A COLLEGE OF OURS, IN THE
BROADEST BUCKETS, WE'RE FOCUSING
ON DEVICE LENDING, A LEARNING
MANAGEMENT SYSTEM OR
TECHNOLOGIES. AND, MULTI-USE
OFFICE SPACE FOR STUDENTS,
FACULTY AND STAFF. AND, I CAN GO
IN DEPTH IN EACH ONE AREA AND
TALK ABOUT HOW CRITICAL THOSE
INVESTMENTS ARE. FIRST AND
FOREMOST, OUR STUDENTS NEED TO
BE ABLE TO ACCESS THE DEVICE.
THEY NEED TO GET TO THEIR
LEARNING MATERIAL AND THE
STUDENT SUPPORT SERVICES OFFERED
THROUGH CALBRIGHT. SO WE OFFER,
HOTSPOTS AND LAPTOPS, LAPTOPS TO
STUDENTS BECAUSE MANY OF THEM
AREN'T ABLE TO ACCESS BROADBAND
CONNECTIVITY, INCLUDING MANY OF
OUR STUDENTS IN RURAL AREAS. WE
ALSO DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES.
THEY ALSO DON'T HAVE THE
RESOURCES, TO ACCESS THOSE
TECHNOLOGIES FOR LEARNING
MATERIALS AND SUPPORTS, AND I
ALSO WANTED TO TALK A BIT ABOUT
HOW OUR CAPITAL OUTLAYS, WERE
BEING VERY THOUGHTFUL WITH
RESPECT TO OUR LEARNING
TECHNOLOGY, SPECIFICALLY. AND
I'D LOVE TO INTRODUCE YOU AT
THIS MOMENT TO SHANNON, DOCTOR
SHANNON MCCARTY ON OUR TEAM, WHO
CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT
THAT. SHE IS OUR VICE PRESIDENT
OF LEARNING AND INSTRUCTION. SHE
COMES TO US FROM INCREDIBLE
EXPERIENCE AT RIO SALADO
COLLEGE, NATIONAL UNIVERSITY, IN
A NUMBER OF OTHER SPACES, AND
SHE'S BEEN FOCUSED ON ON THIS
WORK FOR SOME TIME. AND IF I CAN
JUST INTERJECT, AMY COSTA,
PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD OF
TRUSTEES, BEFORE SHANNON SPEAKS,
HISTORICALLY, WHEN WE CREATED
THE COLLEGE IN STATUTE, WE HAD
ALWAYS CONSIDERED THAT THERE
WOULD BE ON SITE SUPPORTS OF
SOME TYPE FOR OUR STUDENTS, THAT
WAS ALWAYS PART OF THE ESTIMATES
THAT WERE USED TO CREATE THE
COLLEGE. I THINK THE BOARD, MY
VICE PRESIDENT AND MYSELF,
OBVIOUSLY DURING COVID, WANTED
TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE CAUTIOUS
ABOUT THOSE INVESTMENTS, AS MANY
IN GOVERNMENT HAD TO KIND OF
REIMAGINE WHAT THOSE IN-PERSON
SUPPORTS MIGHT LOOK LIKE. AND I
THINK UTILIZING THE DATA AND THE
TIME BETWEEN COVID AND NOW, WE
FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE MAKING
THOSE INVESTMENTS, BUT THAT I'LL
TURN IT OVER TO SHANNON. THANK
YOU. HELLO, I'M DOCTOR SHANNON
MCCARTY. I'M VICE PRESIDENT OF
LEARNING AND INSTRUCTION, AND I
WOULD I WOULD SPEAK TO THE
LEARNING MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, BUT
ACTUALLY TAKE A STEP BACK AND
SPEAK TO THE LEARNING MANAGEMENT
ECOSYSTEM THAT WE ARE BUILDING
BECAUSE WE ARE A VERY DIFFERENT
MODEL. THERE IS NOT AN OFF THE
SHELF LEARNING MANAGEMENT SYSTEM
THAT FITS OUR NEEDS. AND SO IT
WILL REQUIRE CUSTOMIZATION TO
REALLY DO A TRUE DIRECT
ASSESSMENT, COMPETENCY BASED
EDUCATION MODEL THAT REQUIRES
BEING ABLE TO TAG VERY
THOUGHTFULLY WHAT SKILLS
STUDENTS ARE LEARNING TO THEIR
ASSESSMENTS, TO THE
OPPORTUNITIES OF THOSE LEARNING
ASSIGNMENTS, AND THEN BEING ABLE
TO MONITOR STUDENT BEHAVIOR SO
WE CAN INTERVENE AS NEEDED AS
THEY ARE PROGRESSING IN THEIR
PROGRAM. AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF
INFRASTRUCTURE THAT HAS TO TAKE
PLACE, REALLY LOOKING TO THE
DATA BEHIND THAT INFRASTRUCTURE,
BEING ABLE TO VISUALIZE THAT
DATA, BEING ABLE TO AUTOMATE AND
INTEGRATE INTERVENTIONS AND
STRATEGIES, BUT THEN ALSO BEING
ABLE TO REALLY CREATE A SYSTEM
THAT ALLOWS STUDENTS TO PROGRESS
AT THEIR OWN TIME AND AT THEIR
OWN PACE. THANK YOU. AND IN THE
REPORT, IT ALSO MENTIONED THAT
NEARLY HALF THE STUDENTS
WITHDRAW. WHAT IS THE COLLEGE
DOING TO LOWER THE WITHDRAWAL
RATE? THIS IS A GREAT QUESTION
AND SOMETHING STUDENT
PROGRESSION. SUCCESS IS
SOMETHING THAT I'VE BEEN
PREOCCUPIED WITH FOR MANY YEARS
NOW, AS A TEAM, WE'RE ACTUALLY
VERY LASER FOCUSED ON HOW TO
CONTINUOUSLY CONNECT, CONNECT TO
AND SUPPORT OUR STUDENTS BASED
AROUND THEIR NEEDS. SO WITH A
COMMUNITY OF LEARNERS WHO HAS
TRADITIONALLY FALLEN OUT OF
HIGHER EDUCATION BECAUSE WE
HAVEN'T HAD SUSTAINED EFFORTS TO
BUILD AND DESIGN FOR WHAT
THEY'RE NEEDED, WE'RE VERY
FOCUSED ON SUPPORTING
PROGRESSION TO, AND ON WHAT
WE'RE DOING THERE AND TO SEE
RESULTS. AND THAT'S WHY SINCE
2021, WE'VE ACTUALLY EXPERIENCED
DECREASED, WITHDRAWALS IN A WAY
THAT HAS BEEN VERY SIGNIFICANT
FOR, FOR US AND VERY
UNCHARACTERISTIC FOR THIS
COMMUNITY OF LEARNERS ACROSS
HIGHER EDUCATION AND WITH THAT,
I WILL BRING UP DON AUTH, WHO IS
OUR COMES TO US FROM APPLE IS
OUR VICE PRESIDENT OF STUDENT
SERVICES AND SUCCESS, TO TALK
SPECIFICALLY ABOUT ACROSS THE
STUDENT LIFE CYCLE, THE MANY
ACTIVITIES AND ACTIONS THAT
WE'RE TAKING TO SUPPORT, NOT
JUST ENROLLMENT OF STUDENTS, BUT
ALSO THEIR SUCCESSFUL
PROGRESSION AND COMPLETION.
GREAT. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING.
COMMITTEE MY NAME IS DON AUTH.
I'M VICE PRESIDENT OF STUDENT
SERVICES AND SUCCESS. LET ME
LIFT THAT UP A LITTLE BIT, AND
SO WITHDRAWAL IS SOMETHING WE
LOOK AT A LOT AND REALLY
ULTIMATELY WE'RE TRYING TO MEET
STUDENTS WHERE THEY ARE. OUR
AVERAGE STUDENT IS AROUND 40
YEARS OLD. THEY MAY BE DECADES
AWAY FROM FORMAL EDUCATION, AND
ABOUT 40% OF OUR STUDENTS DON'T
HAVE ONLINE KIND OF A SUCCESSFUL
ONLINE EDUCATION EXPERIENCE. SO
THERE'S A LOT OF KIND OF
SCAFFOLDING WE NEED TO BUILD TO
HELP GET THEM READY FOR LEARNING
ONLINE WITH CALBRIGHT OR ANY
OTHER INSTITUTION. SO THERE'S
SEVERAL THINGS WE'RE DOING. I
CAN GIVE YOU A FEW EXAMPLES OF
HOW WE ARE WORKING TO LOWER
WITHDRAWALS ONE. STARTING FROM
THE BEGINNING, THE ONBOARDING
PROCESS IS CRITICAL. STUDENTS
DON'T ALWAYS KNOW THEY LOVE THE
PROMISE OF CALBRIGHT, BUT THEY
DON'T ALWAYS KNOW WHAT IT LOOKS
LOOKS LIKE. SO WE SPEND A LOT OF
TIME MAKING SURE WE MATCH OUR
STUDENTS WITH THE SUPPORTS AND
THE STRUCTURES THEY NEED TO BE
SUCCESSFUL. FOR INSTANCE, IF
THEY'RE NOT USED TO ONLINE
LEARNING, WE PROVIDE DIGITAL
LITERACY KIND OF WORK AND
SCAFFOLDING TO HELP THEM BUILD
THOSE SKILLS NEEDED TO LEARN
ONLINE, A SECOND THING WE DO IS
LOOK AT BASIC NEEDS. WE TRY TO
UNDERSTAND BASIC NEEDS AND
WELLNESS. THESE CAN BE BARRIERS
TO SUCCESS IF STUDENTS AREN'T
BALANCED AND DON'T HAVE THE
BASIC NEEDS JUST FOR LIVING,
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE
SUCCESSFUL KIND OF IN THEIR
LEARNING EXPERIENCE. SO WE MATCH
STUDENTS. WE MAKE SURE THEY HAVE
WHAT THEY NEED TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
ONE OTHER THING WE'VE DONE, AND
THIS IS IN COLLABORATE WITH UCI
AND IDEAS42 PARTNERSHIP AND THIS
IS KIND OF RESEARCH WORK THAT WE
DO. WE'VE INTRODUCED THE IDEA OF
WE'VE INTRODUCED SCAFFOLDED
TIMELINES. SO YOU'VE THESE
TIMELINES BASICALLY MATCH
STUDENTS THE TIME THEY HAVE TO
LEARN THEIR VERY BUSY ADULT
LEARNERS, AND SO WE BASICALLY
ASK THEM HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU
HAVE TO LEARN? HOW MUCH TIME DO
YOU HAVE TO DEDICATE TO THIS
WORK? AND THEN WE PARTNER WITH
THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GUIDE
THEM THROUGH, BECAUSE THERE'S A
LOT OF COMPETING PRIORITIES. AND
SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
THEY HAVE THE SUPPORT THEY NEED
IN THE TIME THEY NEED TO
COMPLETE. AND THE LAST PIECE IS
COUNSELING CAREER. ABOUT 80% OF
OUR STUDENTS SAY THAT THEY COME
TO CALBRIGHT LOOKING FOR CAREER
CHANGE, EITHER TO UPSKILL OR
CHANGE CAREERS ALTOGETHER. AND
SO WE WORK REALLY HARD TO BRING
OUR CAREER SERVICES AND
COUNSELING TEAM IN TO WORK WITH
STUDENTS RIGHT FROM THE START TO
PREPARE THEM FOR CAREER CHANGES
SUCH AS RESUME WORK, PRACTICE,
INTERVIEWS AND PREPARATION FOR
JOBS AND I WANTED TO PASS IT TO
ALICIA. MAYBE YOU HAVE SOME
EXPERIENCE WITH OUR WITH THE
CAREER SERVICES GROUP. HI
EVERYONE. I'M ALICIA AND I'M
VERY NEW TO THIS TYPE OF
SITUATION, BUT I'M VERY GRATEFUL
FOR THE OPPORTUNITY, I WOULD
LIKE TO SAY THIS OPPORTUNITY
WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN GIVEN TO ME
IF I DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, START
WORKING WITH CALBRIGHT, BEING A
STUDENT AT CALBRIGHT AND JUST
ALL IN ALL, GETTING THE
EXPERIENCE TO WORK WITH PEOPLE
LIKE SO KNOWLEDGEABLE, SO
INCREDIBLE IN THIS TYPE OF WORK,
THAT CALBRIGHT OFFERS US, WHICH
IS, I'D LIKE TO SAY, MY JOB I
CURRENTLY HOLD IS VERY DEAR TO
ME NONPROFIT AT THE UC BENIOFF
CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL IN OAKLAND,
I, I BEFORE I WORKED THERE, I
WORKED AT A DOG DAYCARE SO YOU
COULD SEE LIKE WHERE THE WHERE
THE DIFFERENCE IS IN THAT JOB
AND THEN THIS JOB THAT I HOLD
NOW, AND THAT IS THANKS TO,
INSTRUCTOR THAT HELPED ME IN THE
CAREER SERVICES SPECIFICALLY
WITH WRITING MY RESUME, BECAUSE
I FEEL I CAME TO ANOTHER STATE
FROM A VERY SMALL TOWN IN TEXAS.
SO I CAME HERE KNOWING
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. I DIDN'T
KNOW HOW TO WRITE MY RESUME. I
WAS ONLY 18, AND I'M FROM A
FAMILY WHO I'M THE FIRST PERSON
IN THAT FAMILY TO REALLY GO TO
COLLEGE AND GET TO EXPERIENCE
SOMETHING LIKE THIS. SO SO, JUST
BEING ABLE TO FINALLY GET THAT
HELP AND INFORMATION THAT I
NEEDED TO FILL IN THAT GAP THAT
I WAS ALREADY MISSING. IS A
COMPLETELY 180 ON HOW MY LIFE
ENDED UP WITHIN THIS LAST YEAR
OF BEING A STUDENT AT CALBRIGHT,
SPECIFICALLY TUTORING THE RESUME
WRITERS CAREER SERVICES,
COUNSELING. THERE IS SO MANY
RESOURCES THAT I WAS OFFERED
WITHIN MY FIRST DAY OF JUST
SIGNING UP. SOMEBODY WAS CALLING
ME, SOMEBODY WAS EMAILING ME
TELLING ME, HEY, LET ME HELP YOU
WITH THE REST OF YOUR,
APPLICATION. LET ME HELP YOU
WITH YOUR ONBOARDING. I'M LIKE,
I AGAIN, I'M ONE OF THE FIRST
PEOPLE IN MY FAMILY TO EVER GO
TO COLLEGE. SO IT'S KIND OF
LIKE, OH, WHAT IS WHAT IS
ONBOARDING? WHAT'S THIS KICKOFF?
WHAT'S ALL THIS? YOU KNOW, ALL
THESE PEOPLE CONTACTING ME FROM
A SCHOOL. AND I HAD VERY LITTLE
EXPERIENCE IN A COMMUNITY
COLLEGE OR COLLEGE SETTING, I
KNOW IT'S A LOT MORE FASTER
PACED IN PERSON. IT'S A LOT MORE
PEOPLE ARE INTIMIDATED TO GO TO
THE COUNSELORS. PEOPLE ARE
INTIMIDATED TO BE IN THAT TYPE
OF SETTING, WHEREAS CALBRIGHT
OFFERED IT TO ME RIGHT IN MY
HAND, LIKE RIGHT IN MY COMPUTER,
AND THAT'S SOMETHING I WAS VERY
GRATEFUL FOR, BECAUSE FIRST OF
ALL, I WAS IN CALIFORNIA WITH NO
MONEY WORKING AT LIKE A LITTLE
DOG DAYCARE. SO IT WAS JUST A
COMPLETE BIG FLIP, A COMPLETE,
CHANGE FOR THE BETTER, AND I
JUST WANT TO APPRECIATE THE
PEOPLE WHO HELPED ME WRITE MY
RESUME, TOO. SO, AND JUST TO
KIND OF CLOSE THIS OUT AND
CONNECT THE DOTS IN A WAY THAT I
THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT, DON
GAVE SOME VERY SPECIFIC EXAMPLES
TO GIVE A TANGIBLE SENSE OF THE
TYPES OF INTERVENTIONS THAT WERE
ENGAGED IN SUPPORTING ALICIA AS
A RECIPIENT AND PARTICIPANT IN
THOSE ACTIVITIES SHARED A LITTLE
BIT ABOUT, CONTEXTUALLY, HER
EXPERIENCE. BUT I WANT TO
CONNECT THE DOTS ON SOMETHING
ELSE, WHICH IS WE LOOK AT IT
VERY SYSTEMATICALLY ACROSS THE
LIFE CYCLE. SO WHEN WE THINK
ABOUT THE DOLLARS THAT ARE
INVESTED ACROSS THE STUDENT
ENTERPRISE AND WITH RESPECT TO
STUDENT FACING ACTIVITIES, IT IS
NOT A MATTER OF THROWING
SPAGHETTI AT THE WALL. WE
METHODICALLY LOOK AT WAYS TO
PILOT SCALE AND TEST
INTERVENTIONS, AND TO THEN TO
NOT JUST QUICKLY IMPLEMENT THEM.
FOR A SMALL GROUP OF STUDENTS,
BUT ACROSS THE BOARD. WE TALK
ABOUT THE DEEP WORK AND
PARTNERSHIP WORK WITH UCI, AS A
PRIMARY WAY. WE ADDRESS THINGS
LIKE WITHDRAWAL RATES OR SLOW
PROGRESSION FOR OUR STUDENTS,
LARGELY BECAUSE WHAT IT ALLOWS
US TO DO IS TO HAVE THE
CAPABILITIES IN-HOUSE AS AN
ORGANIZATION, TO BE ABLE TO DO
THINGS LIKE UNDERSTAND OUR
STUDENTS TELL US THEY NEED TO
HAVE FLEXIBILITY, BUT ALSO
FLEXIBILITY IS A DOUBLE EDGED
SWORD AND THEY NEED STRUCTURE.
AND SO PUTTING OURSELVES TO THE
TASK OF SOLVING THE CHALLENGE OF
THE BALANCE BETWEEN FLEXIBILITY
AND STRUCTURE, WE IMPLEMENTED
SCAFFOLDING SCHEDULES. NOW WE
DID THAT OVER A COUPLE MONTH
PERIOD. AND WITHIN SIX MONTHS
THEY WERE ACROSS ALL OF OUR
PROGRAMS. AND THIS IS THE RATE
AND THE PACE OF THE CHANGE IN
IMPROVEMENT AND THE DIRECT
IMPACT THAT THAT HAS ON
PROGRESSION AND OUTCOMES. IS
WHAT WE'RE DOING TO ADDRESS
WITHDRAWAL RATES. BUT IT ALSO IS
WHY WE'RE UNIQUE AS AN
INSTITUTION. AND THESE LESSONS
ARE NOT JUST UNIQUE TO
CALBRIGHT. THESE LESSONS HAVE
THE BENEFIT TO SOLVING THIS
CHALLENGE THAT IS BEING
EXPERIENCED SYSTEMWIDE AND
ACROSS AMERICAN HIGHER EDUCATION
, AND I'LL JUST HIGHLIGHT THIS
IS A PROBLEM OTHER STATES ARE
HAVING AS WELL. I WHEN I SPEAK
TO REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRATIC
COLLEAGUES IN OTHER STATES WHO
ARE TRYING TO SOLVE THIS
SPECIFIC CHALLENGE, OF THE MORE
THAN 40 MILLION AMERICANS,
AMERICANS WITH SOME DEGREE, NO
COLLEGE WITHOUT ACCESS TO A
MEANINGFUL ENTRY POINT INTO THE
LABOR MARKET, YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN
GOOD COMPANY IN CALIFORNIA, BUT
MOST IMPORTANTLY, WE'RE LEADING
IN THIS SPACE, AND FOLKS ARE
LOOKING TO US TO BE ABLE TO
SHARE OUT WHAT WE'RE LEARNING
MORE BROADLY. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
AND THANK YOU, ALICIA, FOR YOUR
TESTIMONY. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR
THE LAO. IF THE LAO CAN COME TO
THE TABLE, PLEASE. SO TO BRING
UP HERE. THANK YOU. JUST A QUICK
QUESTION. AS WE'VE HEARD IN
TERMS OF THE BUDGET DEFICIT,
SOME OF THAT SPENT FUNDS AND
SOME OF THE CATEGORIES THAT WE
JUST WENT THROUGH AND SOME
CHALLENGES AROUND A COMPLETION
RATE, DO YOU THINK THE OTHER 115
COMMUNITY COLLEGES CAN DO WHAT
CALBRIGHT IS DOING? DO I THINK
THAT SO PAUL STEINHAUSER WITH
THE ANALYST'S OFFICE, YOU'RE
ASKING IF OTHER COMMUNITY
COLLEGES CAN DO WHAT CALBRIGHT
IS DOING. CORRECT SO CURRENTLY,
THE ACTUAL PROGRAMS THAT
CALBRIGHT OFFERS DO HAVE
DUPLICATION WITH SOME PROGRAMS
OFFERED AT THE OTHER COLLEGES.
CYBERSECURITY FOR EXAMPLE, NOW,
SO THE CONTENT CAN BE SIMILAR
THE WAY CALBRIGHT IS TEACHING IT
THROUGH THIS COMPETENCY BASED
EDUCATION APPROACH IS SOMEWHAT
DIFFERENT FROM THESE COLLEGES.
THE COLLEGES HAVE A MUCH MORE,
TRADITIONAL APPROACH WITH THE
SEMESTER YOU START AND YOU GO
17.5 WEEKS AND YOU HAVE MIDTERMS
AND FINALS AND THAT SORT OF
THING. CALBRIGHT HAS MORE OF AN
OPEN ENDED APPROACH, AND I THINK
THAT IT REMAINS TO BE SEEN,
WHICH IS THE BEST APPROACH,
BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE
SEMESTER APPROACH, KIND OF THE
DOWNSIDE TO THAT IS YOU CAN'T
NECESSARILY ACCELERATE WITH A
SEMESTER APPROACH. YOU CAN'T
SAY, WELL, I'M READY TO TAKE MY
FINAL RIGHT NOW. THEY SAY, WELL,
NO, YOU GOT TO WAIT FOR THE END
OF THE TURN, SO THAT'S THAT'S A
DOWNSIDE. THE AN UPSIDE THOUGH
TO A SEMESTER APPROACH IS YOU
HAVE CLASSES AT A CERTAIN TIME
OR YOU NEED TO GET YOUR WORK IN
BY A CERTAIN TIME, EVEN IF IT'S
A EVEN IF IT'S A CREDIT COURSE
THAT'S, ONLINE, THEY MIGHT SAY
BY SUNDAY AT MIDNIGHT, YOU MUST
GET YOUR WORK IN. OTHERWISE YOU
GET AN F CALBRIGHT DOESN'T HAVE
THAT KIND OF APPROACH IN GENERAL
. AND SO THAT CAN BE GOOD
BECAUSE YOU MIGHT HAVE SOME
MOTIVATED STUDENTS WHO HAVE TIME
ON THEIR HANDS THAT IT CAN
ACCELERATE IT. THEY MIGHT TELL
YOU IT'S GOT SOME CHALLENGES AS
WELL BECAUSE YOU NEED THAT
STUDENT TO PROGRESS. IT'S BEST
FOR THAT STUDENT TO PUT IN THE
TIME. I MEAN, IDEALLY PUT IN TEN
15 HOURS A WEEK, FIVE ISN'T VERY
MUCH. THAT STUDENT'S GOING TO
TAKE AN AWFUL LONG TIME TO
FINISH. IF YOU IF THEY'RE ONLY
DEVOTING FIVE HOURS A WEEK TO A
CERTAIN PROGRAM AND THAT CAN
EXTEND ON FOR MONTHS AND THEN
LIFE GETS IN THE WAY. SO I THINK
THAT'S SOMETHING THE LEGISLATURE
SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT. IS THE
COMPETENCY BASED EDUCATION ON
THE PROS AND THE CONS. DOES IT
MAKE SENSE TO REQUIRE THEM, THE
STUDENTS, TO MOVE AT A MORE AT A
SWIFTER PACE AND THAT WHICH
APPROACH IS REALLY BEST FROM THE
LEGISLATIVE POINT OF VIEW? THANK
YOU FOR THAT. I APPRECIATE THAT
CONTEXT AND I'LL PASS OVER TO
THE PRESIDENT, BUT ALSO IN THE
CONTEXT I WAS LIKE, SO I THINK
THE LORD TOUCHED UPON IT. BUT
HOW DO CALBRIGHT COURSES DIFFER
FROM THE MORE TRADITIONAL
CAMPUSES AND THE COMPETENCY
BASED APPROACH? YEAH SO THE
COMPETENCY BASED APPROACH IS
FUNDAMENTALLY DIFFERENT, LARGELY
BECAUSE IT IS ALSO COMBINED WITH
ASYNCHRONICITY. AND WHAT THAT
MEANS IS WHEN I KEEP SAYING
FLEXIBLY PACED, IT MEANS THAT
STUDENTS CAN PROGRESS BASED ON
THE TIME THEY HAVE AVAILABLE AND
BALANCING THE LIFE REALITIES
THAT THEY HAVE. ALICIA CAN HAVE
HER JOB AT THE CHILDREN'S
HOSPITAL AND STILL MANAGE HER
COURSEWORK IN A WAY THAT IS
DISCONNECTED FROM HAVING TO HAVE
HER SHOW UP IN THE CLASSROOM,
EITHER VIRTUAL OR PHYSICAL
SETTING. AND THAT FLEXIBILITY IS
SIGNIFICANT AND IMPORTANT. THE
OTHER PIECE OF THAT, I THINK
THAT THAT HAS TO BE MENTIONED IS
THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT A
TRADITIONAL MODEL VERSUS A
COMPETENCY MODEL, WE'RE ALSO
TALKING ABOUT TIME SPENT IN A
SEAT, COMPLETING REQUIREMENTS
VERSUS A DEMONSTRATION OF
MASTERY. SO WHAT POSITION DOES
STUDENTS IN A MODEL LIKE THIS
BEST FOR ACTUAL WORKPLACE
SUCCESS IS THAT THEY GET
PRACTICE IN OUR INSTITUTION, NOT
JUST ACQUIRING NEW SKILLS, BUT
DEMONSTRATING WHAT THEY CAN DO
TO THE EMPLOYER. FOR EMPLOYERS
AND PROSPECTIVE EMPLOYERS. SO
THAT BECOMES AN IMPORTANT PART
OF DISTINCTION. BUT I SAY THAT,
REALLY VALUING MY SISTER
COMMUNITY COLLEGES. AND SO WHAT
I MEAN BY THAT IS, WE HAVE TO
FIGURE THIS OUT IN THE SYSTEM.
AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE EXCITED TO
BE A COMMUNITY COLLEGE WITHIN
THE WITHIN THE SYSTEM, I THINK
IT IS VERY CLEAR THAT THE REASON
THAT WE TOOK THE APPROACH THAT
WE DID IN TERMS OF THE
STRUCTURAL DESIGN OF THE COLLEGE
WAS VERY MUCH ABOUT HAVING A
DIFFERENTIATED APPROACH THAT WAS
DESIGNED AROUND THE CUSTOMIZED
NEEDS OF THE LEARNERS AND I
THINK YOU BROUGHT UP A GREAT
POINT, PAUL, WHICH IS, HOW DO WE
DO THAT ON BALANCE AND STILL
ADHERE TO THE SCAFFOLDED SUPPORT
THAT'S NEEDED? RIGHT. HOW DO WE
NOT DO WHAT, YOU KNOW, MOOCS
HAVE DONE IN THE PAST, WHICH IS
SUGGEST THAT DEMOCRATIZING
ACCESS TO THE CONTENT IS GOING
TO BE ENOUGH, AND WE DO THAT
THROUGH A VERY SUPPORT FORWARD
MODEL. WE DO THAT THROUGH A
MODEL IN WHICH THERE IS BOTH
OPTIMIZED TECHNOLOGY, BUT ALSO
REAL HUMAN TOUCH AND INTERACTION
TO SUPPORT A STUDENT THROUGH TO
THAT GOAL. AND WE DO IT THE
WHOLE TIME, ALLOWING THEM TO
SORT OF PRACTICE WITH THE
TECHNOLOGIES THAT FOR SOME
FOLKS, THEY HAVE NEVER HAD
EXPOSURE TO. AND IF I MAY, AND I
JUST WANT TO KICK IT UP, LIKE TO
MORE OF A 30,000 FOOT VIEW FOR
YOUR CONSIDERATION IS HIGHER
EDUCATION IS REALLY AT AN
INFLECTION POINT IN THE COUNTRY,
AND THAT'S DRIVEN BY
DEMOGRAPHICS, SPECIFICALLY HERE
IN CALIFORNIA, AS WELL AS THE
PANDEMIC CHANGING STUDENT
EXPECTATIONS AND, FRANKLY,
DESIRES AROUND HIGHER ED. AND I
DON'T NECESSARILY THINK THAT
THERE'S GOING TO BE A DUALITY
BETWEEN THE TRADITIONAL ROAD AND
COMPETENCY BASED IN CALIFORNIA
HAS A LONG AND STRONG HISTORY OF
BEING INNOVATIVE IN HIGHER ED,
OF BEING, YOU KNOW, REALLY KIND
OF THE MODEL IN THE COUNTRY AND
FRANKLY, THE WORLD. AND I THINK
WE'RE CONTINUING TO DO THAT BY
OFFERING STUDENTS, GIVEN THE
DIVERSE AMOUNT OF STUDENTS THAT
WE NEED TO SERVE IN THIS STATE,
SEVERAL OPTIONS THAT ARE PUBLIC
OPTIONS AND THAT ARE PRICED FOR
FULL PARTICIPATION BY ALL
CALIFORNIANS. THANK YOU SO MUCH
FOR THAT CONTEXT, PRESIDENT. GO
AHEAD. I DID NOTICE SOMETHING IN
THE ANALYSIS THAT I DO THINK
IT'S IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER AND
CLARIFY, ESPECIALLY WITH REGARDS
TO PAUL COMMENTS THAT THERE'S
SOME OVERLAP IN CONTENT AREAS
BETWEEN WHAT WE DO AND WHAT
OTHER COLLEGES MAY ALSO BE
EXPLORING. I WANT TO BE VERY
CLEAR EVERY TIME WE CREATE A
PROGRAM, WE DO AN EXTENSIVE
ANALYSIS ON THE LABOR MARKET
NEED AND CURRENT PRODUCTION IN
THE SYSTEM. SO WHERE THERE IS A
SCALE MISMATCH BETWEEN THE
CERTIFICATIONS THAT LEAD TO
PARTICULAR TYPES OF JOB ROLES
AND THE AVAILABILITY OF WHAT THE
CURRENT SYSTEM IS CURRENTLY
PRODUCING, THAT BECOMES A VERY
IMPORTANT KIND OF BASELINE
UNDERSTANDING AND IMPORTANT
THING TO BALANCE WITH RESPECT TO
MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE ALWAYS
COMPLEMENTARY AND ALWAYS ADDING
VALUE TO WHAT THE REST OF THE
SYSTEM IS DOING AND PRODUCING, I
THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO
REMEMBER WE'RE ALSO EXPANDING
THE ACCESS TO SKILLS AND
CERTIFICATIONS IN AREAS OF THE
LABOR MARKET THAT ARE NOT JUST
RELEVANT TODAY, BUT THAT REFLECT
WHAT THE CHANGING CONDITIONS OF
THE LABOR MARKET ARE. I WAS
ACTUALLY CONNECTING WITH, SOME
LABOR MARKET ECONOMISTS AND
MICRO ECONOMISTS LAST WEEK, AND
WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WHAT'S
HAPPENING IN THE LABOR MARKET
ITSELF IN TERMS OF THE DYNAMISM
IN THE LABOR MARKET WITH THE
ONSET OF NEW TECHNOLOGIES AND
THE WAYS IN WHICH THE SKILLS
REQUIREMENTS IN THE ACTUAL
HIRING MARKET ARE SHIFTING AND
CHANGING. AND SO IN HIGHER ED,
WE LIKE TO LOOK SINGULARLY AT
PROGRAMS, AND WE THINK THE
PROGRAM LEADS TO A VERY SPECIFIC
JOB. AND IN FACT, WHAT WE'RE
LEARNING IS THAT THERE'S A SET
OF SKILLS THAT HAS TO BE
CULTIVATED, ESPECIALLY FOR OUR
STUDENTS, TO HAVE AN ACCESS
POINT THAT IS NOT JUST ABOUT THE
SINGLE CERTIFICATION THAT THEY
HAVE, BUT PREPARES THEM TO
NAVIGATE A SERIES OF DIFFERENT
LABOR MARKET OPPORTUNITIES. AND
TO PUT THAT IN MORE CONCRETE
TERMS, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE
CLUSTER OF 17 PROGRAMS THAT WE
HAVE DESIGNED AND VALIDATED,
WHAT YOU WILL FIND IS IN THEIR
AREAS OF THE ECONOMY THAT ARE
GROWING AND THEY ARE IN
POSITIONS THAT ARE NEW, THAT ARE
NEW TECHNOLOGY, AND THE
CERTIFICATIONS THEMSELVES
THEMSELVES ARE ACTUALLY
CALIBRATED TO SKILLS DEMANDS IN
THE LABOR MARKET. AND SO WE GO
THROUGH A VERY EXTENSIVE PROCESS
AROUND THAT. AND AND, THE ONE
PART ABOUT THAT THAT'S STANDING
OUT IN THIS MOMENT IS A RECENT
ACTION THAT OUR FACULTY SENATE
TOOK TO REALLY INTEGRATE A SET
OF DURABLE SKILLS AS A PART OF
THE EXPERIENCE THAT STUDENTS GET
IN EVERY PROGRAM, AND WHY THAT'S
SIGNIFICANT IS BECAUSE IF YOU
ASK LABOR MARKET LEADERS OR
INSIGHT PROVIDERS, WHETHER IT'S
LIGHT LIGHTCAST OR LINKEDIN OR
ANY OF THE FOLKS SITTING ON
LARGE AMOUNTS OF DATA AND
UNDERSTANDING ABOUT WHERE SKILLS
ARE GOING AND WHAT THE RIGHT
ACCESS POINT IS FOR SKILLS, YOU
WILL FIND THAT THESE ARE THE
SKILLS THAT OUR STUDENTS ARE
GOING TO NEED THE MOST. PRACTICE
HAVING IN ORDER FOR THEM TO BE
ABLE TO DIRECTLY ACCESS THAT JOB
IN THE HIRING MARKET. AND SO
WE'RE NOT JUST PAYING ATTENTION
TO THAT. WE'RE MOVING THAT
RESEARCH, REMOVING IN A VERY
TACTICAL, TACTICAL AND
ACTIONABLE WAY. AND IN A WAY, I
THINK THAT WE'RE HAPPY TO SHARE
OUT. WE DON'T FEEL ANY PRIDE OF
OWNERSHIP OVER WHAT WE'VE
CREATED. IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT
FOR US TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO
SHARE THAT OUT WITH COLLEAGUES
IN THE SYSTEM AND IN A LOT OF
WAYS, AND IN A LOT OF PLACES,
WE'RE ALREADY DOING THAT. WELL,
THANK YOU FOR THAT CONTEXT AND
THANK YOU FOR SHARING THOSE BEST
PRACTICES. I THINK IT'S CRITICAL
TO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO
UPLIFT THE EXPERIENCE OF ALL
COLLEGE STUDENTS IN CALIFORNIA.
AND SO THE WORK THAT, YOU AND
YOUR TEAM HAVE PROVIDED HERE
TODAY. SO I APPRECIATE THAT
CONTEXT, BUT THEN, THANK YOU SO
MUCH, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE
PRESENTATION. I HAVE A FEW
QUESTIONS, AND IF YOU HAVEN'T
ALREADY NOTICED, I TEND TO JUMP
AROUND A LITTLE BIT, SO. PARDON
PARDON THAT. BUT AS QUESTIONS
COME UP, I LIKE TO MAKE THEM ONE
THAT JUST ABSOLUTELY CATCHES MY
ATTENTION IS ON PAGE 28 OF OUR
REPORT. AND IT HAS TO DO WITH
THE BUDGET, FROM CAL BRIGHT. I
DON'T THINK THIS IS TYPICAL, BUT
THAT'S WHY I'D LIKE TO GET SOME
RESPONSE. THE ACADEMIC SALARIES
MAKE UP 3 MILLION OUT OF THE
TOTAL EXPENDITURES OF 17
MILLION. ANY GRANTED EMPLOYEE
BENEFITS, YOU'D ADD THOSE TWO,
BUT THOSE TWO COMBINED AREN'T
50% OF THE ANNUAL BUDGET AT THE
17 MILLION. YEAH ANNUAL EXPENSES
, AND THEN YOU USE, I THINK,
PRIOR YEAR BALANCE FOR THE $50
MILLION BUDGET. WHICH AGAIN,
ACADEMIC SALARIES ONLY ACCOUNTS
FOR A FRACTION OF THAT, AND THEN
THERE'S THIS VERY LARGE $23
MILLION EXPENDITURE ON OTHER
EXPENSES. AND I'D LIKE TO
UNDERSTAND ONE. WHY ARE THE
SALARIES SUCH A SMALL COMPONENT
OF IT? AND TWO, WHAT ARE THESE
OTHER EXPENSES THAT ARE NOT
OUTLINED IN THE BUDGET?
ABSOLUTELY I'M HAPPY TO GO INTO
BOTH AND I'LL TAKE THEM IN THE
ORDER I THINK I HEARD THEM IN
THE FIRST ONE YOU MENTIONED IS
THE PROPORTION OF SALARIES THAT
ARE SPENT ON, A NARROW
DEFINITION OF WHAT CONDITIONS
ACADEMIC SUCCESS, WHICH IS
FACULTY AND SPECIFICALLY
INSTRUCTIONAL SALARIES. I THINK
TWO THINGS. ONE IS, THAT IS AN
AREA WHERE WE ACTUALLY, HAVE NOT
YET, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF
INSTITUTIONS. I HEARD YOU
TALKING ABOUT IT IN THE ITEM
PREVIOUSLY. A LOT OF
INSTITUTIONS ARE HAVING GREAT
DIFFICULTY IN BALANCING, A 1965
RULE AND CONSIDERATION AND
DEFINITION WITH RESPECT TO WHAT
THE NEEDS ARE THAT THEY'RE
TRYING TO MEET FOR THEIR
STUDENTS HISTORICALLY, WE HAVE
SORT, IN A LARGE PART OF THE WAY
THAT THEY TYPICALLY DO THAT IS
THROUGH, THROUGH THROUGH OTHER
CATEGORICAL FUNDING, WHICH WE DO
NOT CURRENTLY DRAW DOWN. SO
WHILE WE'RE THIS IN THIS PERIOD
OF OUR DEVELOPMENT ON AN ONGOING
SIDE OF THINGS, WE'RE FOCUSED
FIRST ON BUILDING AND DESIGNING
THE MODEL THAT IS GOING TO BEST
CONDITION STUDENT SUCCESS AND
WHAT WE KNOW THAT IS THAT
DEFINITION FROM 1965 ACTUALLY
NEEDS TO LOOK AND EVOLVE TO
ACCOMMODATE ALL OF THE THINGS
THAT CONDITION STUDENTS SUCCESS.
AND THAT'S PARTICULARLY UNIQUE
IN A DIGITAL ENVIRONMENT. IF
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SUCCESSFUL
OUTCOMES FOR UNDERSERVED
COMMUNITIES IN ONLINE
EXPERIENCES, WE HAVE TO BE
TALKING ABOUT SUPPORT FIRST, AND
WE HAVE TO FUND THE MODEL THAT
WAY. AND ADDITIONALLY, I THINK
WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO
ACKNOWLEDGE THAT TO THAT, THAT
WHAT IS STUDENT FACING LOOKS
DIFFERENT. SO YOU KNOW, SO LET
ME ASK, WHERE ARE YOU IN THE
PROCESS OF IDENTIFYING THAT
MODEL AND WHAT THAT MODEL LOOKS
LIKE. SO WE HAVE AN OPERATING
MODEL AROUND IT. I THINK WE'RE
CONTINUING TO LOOK AT HOW DO WE
APPLY TECHNOLOGY TO SCALE IT IN
WAYS THAT ARE MOST COST
EFFECTIVE? I THINK WE'RE LOOKING
AT WAYS, TO REFINE THE STUDENT
THROUGHPUT AND TO CONTINUE TO
IMPROVE THE THROUGHPUT. AND WE
SEE A DIRECT RELATIONSHIP
BETWEEN THE INTERVENTIONS THAT
WE TAKE, LIKE ONES WE TOOK IN
2023 AND THE EFFECT THAT THEY
HAVE SIX MONTHS LATER AND MOVING
THE NEEDLE ON THAT. SO WE'RE
CONTINUOUSLY WORKING TOWARDS
THAT. SO YOUR NONACADEMIC
SALARIES, I'M ASSUMING, BECAUSE
THIS IS THIS BUDGET IS VERY
LIMITED IN TERMS OF WHAT THE
DETAILS ARE, AT LEAST WHAT WE
HAVE BEFORE US, THAT'S WHERE
YOU'RE SPENDING A LOT OF THE
RESOURCES ON SUPPORT SYSTEMS FOR
STUDENTS THAT ARE HELPING YOU,
MAKE THIS MODEL THAT YOU
DESCRIBED HELP YOU BE
SUCCESSFUL. YES. OUR DIRECT
TECHNOLOGY SUPPORT OF STUDENTS.
YOU HEARD DON SAY AND MENTIONED
THE FACT THAT A NUMBER OF OUR
STUDENTS COME TO US WITHOUT ANY
PRIOR EXPERIENCE WITH OR ACCESS
TO DIGITAL RESOURCES. AND SO
THAT IS THAT IS PROGRAMMATIC
TIME AND INVESTMENT THAT GOES IN
FOR OUR STUDENTS, OUR STUDENT,
YOU KNOW, OUR TECH DIVISION
ACTUALLY SPENDS A LOT OF TIME
DIRECTLY SUPPORTING OUR
STUDENTS. CAREER SERVICES IS NOT
COUNTED IN THE CURRENT
DEFINITION OF NARROW ACADEMIC
SALARIES, ETC, ETC. BUT SO LET
ME ASK HOW MANY STUDENTS WERE
ENROLLED IN THE YEAR THAT YOU
SPENT? THE 3 MILLION, 3.5
MILLION ON SALARIES AND 8.4
MILLION ON NONACADEMIC SALARIES?
I CAN GET YOU THE SPECIFIC
NUMBER, BUT I BELIEVE IT WAS
AROUND THREE 33,000 SOMETHING.
BUT I WILL I WILL CIRCLE BACK
AND GET YOU THE EXACT NUMBERS
FOR THAT BUDGET YEAR. AND, IN
OUR REPORT, WE'VE GOT A SORT OF
SUMMARY OF WHAT'S BEEN
ACCOMPLISHED TO DATE. AND WE'VE
GOT, ISSUANCE, I THINK, OF 556
CERTIFICATES, WE'RE ACTUALLY
JUST UNDER 600 TODAY, SO AROUND
600 CERTIFICATES AND IN EARLIER,
QUESTIONS BY ONE OF MY
COLLEAGUES, YOU TALKED ABOUT HOW
YOU FOCUS ON PROGRAMS THAT ARE
NOT PERHAPS BEING OFFERED MARKET
DRIVEN PROGRAMS, ARE ALL OF THIS
CERTIFICATED PROGRAMS THEN
SHOULD IT BE OUR UNDERSTANDING
THAT THEY ARE NOT BEING OFFERED
BY COMMUNITY COLLEGES TODAY, AT
LEAST NOT IN AN ASYNCHRONOUS WAY
, NOT IN THE FORMAT WE'RE DOING
IT, AND NOT WITH THE ACCESS
POINT WE DO IN THE WAY WE
DELIVER IT. NO. SO ALL OF ALL OF
THOSE CERTIFICATED PROGRAMS ARE
NOT OFFERED ASYNCHRONOUSLY. IS
THAT A WORD? IT IS. AND AT ANY
COMMUNITY COLLEGE IN CALIFORNIA?
NO, NOT THAT WE'RE AWARE OF. AND
IT SHOULD BE IMPORTANT TO NOTE
THAT ACTUALLY, PURSUANT TO OUR
STATUTORY LEGISLATION, THE
CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE DOES AN
ANNUAL REPORT TO THE LEGISLATURE
WITH RESPECT TO THE EVALUATION
OF DUPLICATION. THÀNH. AND ONE
OTHER RELATED POINT IS THAT THIS
WAS A MATTER FOR INVESTIGATION
DURING THE COURSE OF OUR
COMPREHENSIVE STATE AUDIT AUDIT
A COUPLE OF YEARS BACK, THE
AUDITOR THEMSELVES CONFIRMED
THAT THE STRUCTURE AND NATURE OF
OUR PROGRAM DIFFERENTIATED IT
SIGNIFICANTLY FROM ANYTHING
THAT'S CURRENTLY OFFERED IN THE
SYSTEM. SO SOMEBODY HAVE BEEN
ISSUED, BUT ACCORDING TO A
REPORT, YOU'VE ONLY HAVE THREE
PROGRAMS AVAILABLE. SO HOW MANY
CERTIFICATES ARE ALL THE
CERTIFICATES OFFERED? ONLY IN
THOSE THREE PROGRAMS. SO, WE'LL
TALK ABOUT THE IMPLEMENTATION
CYCLE. SO THERE IS THREE
PROGRAMS THAT ARE CURRENTLY OPEN
FOR ENROLLMENT. CYBER WILL
INCLUDING CYBER BEFORE OVER THE
SUMMER, DATA ANALYTICS WHICH IS
IN A PILOT PHASE AND WILL GO
FROM PILOT SIX MONTHS LATER TO A
BROAD OPEN ACCESS. THAT'S HOW WE
LAUNCH ALL OUR PROGRAMS AND THEN
WE HAVE 17 THAT ARE ACTUALLY
ALREADY ON A LAUNCH TIME FRAME,
RIGHT? WE HAVE THE LAUNCH CODES
AND THE TIME FRAME FOR WHEN THEY
WILL LAUNCH OVER THE NEXT 18
MONTHS. AND YOU'RE PROBABLY
WONDERING, LIKE WHY THAT PAUSE
EXISTS, BETWEEN WHEN WE FIRST
DESIGNED AND VALIDATED THOSE
PROGRAMS AND OPENING THEM UP FOR
ENROLLMENTS AND THE CYCLE OF
THAT WAS, TAKES TIME FOR TWO
REASONS, NOT BOTH OF WHICH ARE A
LITTLE BIT OUT OF OUR
INSTITUTIONAL CONTROL. ONE,
DURING THAT PERIOD, WE WENT
THROUGH A PROCESS OF
ACCREDITATION WHICH REQUIRES US
TO ACTUALLY PAUSE ON THE
LAUNCHING OF NEW PROGRAMS FOR
THE PERIOD WHERE THE ACCREDITOR
EVALUATES US. WE ACHIEVED OUR
ACCREDITATION IN THE SUMMER OF
LAST YEAR. AS I MENTIONED IN MY
REMARKS, A YEAR AHEAD OF
SCHEDULE. NOW WE ARE GOING TO
THE PLACE WHERE, WITH OUR 17 NEW
PROGRAMS, THEY GO AFTER THEY
LEAVE US. WE AND I EXPLAIN THAT
MAYBE COMPREHENSIVE PROCESS BY
WHICH WE DESIGN AND VALIDATE
THOSE PROGRAMS TO MAKE SURE
THEY'RE RELEVANT AND STRUCTURED
TO SET UP STUDENTS FOR SUCCESS.
THEY ARE PASSED THROUGH OUR
BOARD AND FOLLOWING PASSAGE
THROUGH THE BOARD, GO TO THE
CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE FOR APPROVAL
AND THEN GO TO THE ACCREDITOR
FOR APPROVAL BEFORE WE CAN
LAUNCH, SO A NUMBER OF THOSE
PROGRAMS ARE IN A DIFFERENT
STAGE OF THAT PIPELINE. FINALLY,
WE'RE WE ARE MOVING TO, AS
DOCTOR MCCARTY MENTIONED, AN LMS
AND A CONTENT MANAGEMENT SYSTEM
THAT IS KEYED INTO OUR LAUNCH
SEQUENCE FOR THE COMING YEAR,
AND SO YOU WILL START TO SEE,
YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE NEXT 18
MONTHS, THE LAUNCH OF ALL THOSE
18. LET ME TRY TO FOCUS US ON
THE NEXT 12 MONTHS. NOT THAT WE
DON'T LIKE TO THINK LONG TERME,
BUT THIS IS A BUDGET DISCUSSION
ABOUT THE NEXT YEAR. SO IN THE
NEXT YEAR, HOW MANY OF THE 17
PROGRAMS WILL ACTUALLY BE UP AND
RUNNING WITH STUDENTS ELIGIBLE
TO BE ENROLLED? I DO NOT HAVE
THAT IN FRONT OF ME. OH, IS IT 1
OR 2 PROGRAMS OR IS IT LIKE 5 TO
10 PROGRAMS? IT'LL BE 5 TO 10
PROGRAMS FOR SURE. OKAY, AND I
AND I WILL I CAN GET YOU THE
EXACT KIND OF LONG SEQUENCES
THERE. OKAY IF YOU'RE
ESSENTIALLY TRIPLING,
QUADRUPLING, MAYBE MORE, THE
NUMBER OF PROGRAMS I'M ASSUMING
YOU ANTICIPATE TO SERVE MORE
STUDENTS. YES PART OF OUR
ENROLLMENT GROWTH, WE'RE HOPING
WILL BE CONTINGENT ON THE LAUNCH
OF THE NEW PROGRAMS. OKAY. AND
YET, THE DRAFT BUDGET THAT WE
HAVE BEFORE US CONTINUES TO
MAINTAIN YOUR ACADEMIC SALARIES
AND YOUR NONACADEMIC SALARIES AT
THE SAME RATE. HOW IS IT THAT
YOU'RE GOING TO GROW WITHOUT ANY
ADDITIONAL EXPENSES, IT'S A
GREAT QUESTION. SO WE ARE
UNLIKELY TO SEE A SIGNIFICANT
CHANGE, CHANGE IN, OUR ACADEMIC
SALARIES, IN OUR ONGOING KIND OF
STEADY STATE BUDGET, WITH THE
LAUNCH OF THESE NEW PROGRAMS.
AND PART OF IT IS HOW WE LAUNCH
NEW PROGRAMS. SO THE ONE TIME
FUNDS AS DESIGNED BY THE STATUTE
ARE USED TO, TO CREATE NEW
PROGRAMS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE
NEEDS AND REQUIREMENTS,
INCLUDING SUBJECT MATTER
EXPERTISE, ARE GOING TO BE, AS
WE AS WE GET TO THAT POINT, THEN
WE BEGIN TO UNDERSTAND WHAT FULL
TIME FACULTY HIRING IS GOING TO
BE IMPORTANT TO, TO PUT INTO
PLACE ON A PERMANENT BASIS, AND
THAT BECOMES VERY IMPORTANT
BECAUSE, AS YOU KNOW, ONCE THOSE
POSITIONS ARE CREATED, THEY ARE
IN FOR THE LONG HAUL. AND SO
YOU'VE SEEN YOU HAVE SEEN A
GROWTH IN OUR FACULTY RANKS OVER
THE PAST SEVERAL FISCAL YEARS,
KIND OF CONSISTENT WITH THAT
APPROACH AND STRATEGY. BUT WE
DON'T LEAN INTO THE FULL TIME
HIRE BEFORE WE HAVE VALIDATED A
PROGRAM, IS GOING TO STAY WITH
US AND GROW AND DEMONSTRATE THE
OUTCOMES THAT IT NEEDS TO
DEMONSTRATE. I'LL JUST SO WE'LL
SHARE WITH SEE EVENTUALLY A
GROWTH IN THOSE ACADEMIC
SALARIES ON A MORE PERMANENT
BASIS. ABSOLUTELY. THERE WILL BE
MORE FACULTY HIRE SHARE WITH YOU
THAT YOU'RE TELLING ME YOU'RE
LAUNCHING UP TO TEN NEW PROGRAMS
AND YOUR BUDGET IS NOT CHANGING
FROM ONE YEAR TO THE NEXT? THAT
LEADS ME TO THEN THINK AT SOME
POINT, EITHER THE BUDGETING HERE
IS WAY OFF OR, THE EXPECTATION
FOR THE LEGISLATURE WHICH FUNDS
THIS AND FOR THE STATE WHICH
FUNDS THIS, IS THAT THIS
PROGRAM, THE COST FOR THIS IS
GOING TO CONTINUE TO GROW, I'D
LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE PROGRAMS
ARE THAT YOU ARE THINKING OF
LAUNCHING, PRIOR TO ADOPTION OF
THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, WHAT
PROGRAMS YOU'RE LOOKING TO
LAUNCH, WHEN THEY WILL BE
LAUNCHING, HOW MANY STUDENTS
WILL BE SERVED IN THOSE
PROGRAMS? AND, AND AN UPDATED
BUDGET TO BE REFLECTIVE OF THAT?
BECAUSE IF WE'RE GOING TO MAKE
THIS COMMITMENT, WE NEED TO KNOW
WHAT THE COMMITMENT REALLY IS.
AND I'LL JUST TELL YOU RIGHT
NOW, IT JUST IT'S NOT VERY CLEAR
WHAT THAT COMMITMENT IS. IT'S
JUST ALLOW US TO CONTINUE TO
PLAN AND TO TRY TO BRING ON
BOARD PROGRAMS THAT WE'VE BEEN
PLANNING FOR NOW FOR SOME TIME.
AND SO IN A YEAR WHEN RESOURCES
ARE INCREDIBLY LIMITED, NOT JUST
THIS YEAR, BUT ON THE OUT YEARS,
MAKING THOSE COMMITMENTS OR
POTENTIALLY CREATING A SITUATION
WHERE YOU ARE COMMITTING, TO
DOING SOMETHING THAT WE MIGHT
NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD IS REALLY,
WILL BE VERY DIFFICULT FOR US.
AND SO I THINK IT'S TIME,
THERE'S BEEN THERE'S BEEN TIME
AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENED
IN THE LAST FEW YEARS, AND I
KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME VERY
WE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM. PEOPLE
HAVE, BEEN VERY, DIRECT IN HOW
THEIR FEELINGS ABOUT, CALBRIGHT,
I CAME TO THIS REALLY WITHOUT
ANY STRONG FEELINGS ONE WAY OR
THE OTHER. BUT I DO THINK AS
YOU'VE HEARD ME QUESTION OTHERS
IN TERMS OF THEIR PROGRAMS, WHAT
IS THE VALUE? AND AT SOME POINT
YOU'VE GOT TO MAKE A DECISION
THAT THERE'S VALUE THERE OR
THERE ISN'T. AND I THINK THE
TIME HAS COME TO MAKE THAT
DECISION, UNDERSTANDING WHAT,
YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN EXPAND
ACCESS, I'M ALL ABOUT THAT, TO
STUDENTS WHO WOULDN'T HAVE
OTHERWISE HAVE ACCESS IN
PROGRAMS THAT OTHERWISE DON'T
EXIST WHERE THE DEMAND IS,
EXISTS. TOTALLY SUPPORTIVE OF
THAT. BUT WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT
THAT IS AND WHAT WHAT THAT
RETURN ON THAT INVESTMENT IS
GOING TO BE. AND IT CAN'T BE,
WE'RE STILL STUDYING. WE'RE
STILL MODELING. WE'RE STILL
FIGURING OUT. WE'VE GOT TO KNOW
WHAT THAT IS, AND I THINK THE
TIME HAS COME FOR THAT. SO
THAT'S WHAT I'D ASK OF YOU IN
TERMS OF DATA. YOU HEARD ME ASK
DATA ON NURSING PROGRAMS. WE'RE
ASKING ON ALL OF THIS BECAUSE WE
NEED TO KNOW, HOW WE'RE GOING
TO. YES, ADDRESS THE CRISIS THIS
YEAR, BUT ALSO REALLY LOOKING TO
THE NEXT YEAR AND HOW WE'RE
GOING TO ADDRESS THE CRISIS THAT
UNFORTUNATELY WILL CONTINUE. SO
THOSE ARE, I THINK, MY ONLY
QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM.
APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU PANELISTS
AND LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR, TO
YOUR RESPONSE, BEFORE WE TAKE
BUDGET ACTION. SO, WITH THAT,
WE, COME TO THE END OF THE
PANELS AND AS PROMISED, WE NOW
HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR
AGENDA, COMMENTS. NOT SORRY,
PUBLIC COMMENT, ON ITEMS THAT
WERE ON TODAY'S AGENDA.
CERTAINLY INTERESTING IN YOUR
FEEDBACK ON SPECIFICS, ON IDEAS
ON FURTHER QUESTIONS THAT ARISE,
TO YOU WHO FOLLOW THIS, I WILL
ASK IF YOU HAVE ALREADY MADE A
COMMENT WE GAVE YOU THAT
OPPORTUNITY AT THE BEGINNING, SO
PLEASE LET OTHERS WHO HAVE NOT
MADE A COMMENT MAKE A COMMENT
NOW, AND WE'LL GIVE YOU AT THIS
MOMENT, ALL OF YOU ONE MINUTES
TO SHARE YOUR COMMENTS. SO
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND
PROCEED, THANK YOU, CHAIR
ALVAREZ. MY NAME IS LARRY
GALIZIO. I'M THE PRESIDENT AND
CEO OF THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE
LEAGUE. AND JUST GOING BACK TO
THE FUNDING FORMULA DISCUSSION,
YOU MADE A VERY ASTUTE
OBSERVATION. YOU ASKED ABOUT THE
50% LAW 1961 WAS ACTUALLY WHEN
THAT STATUTE WAS CREATED. IT WAS
REALLY FOCUSED ON K-12. I WOULD
JUST ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONTINUE
TO LOOK AT IT. IF YOU WERE GOING
TO CREATE AN AUTOMOBILE, LET'S
SAY, A TESLA IN 2024, YOU
WOULDN'T PUT AN EIGHT TRACK TAPE
IN IT. SO APPRECIATE WE'RE EAGER
TO CONTINUE THAT CONVERSATION
AND LOOK FORWARD TO, WORKING ON
THE FUNDING FORMULA. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. TIFFANY MÀ WITH CFT
AND EDUCATION UNION OF EDUCATORS
AND CLASSIFIED PROFESSIONALS, I
WANTED TO STATE THAT TO THE
EXTENT WE ARE OPENING THE
DISCUSSION ON THE 50% RULE, WE
ARE VERY OPEN TO DISCUSSING
THAT, IT WAS CONTEMPLATED AND
ADOPTED FOR MANY REASONS AND
DISCUSSED DURING SKIFF. WE ALSO
WANTED TO JUST SAY THAT, YOU
KNOW, TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU
HAVE THOSE, THAT THE STATISTICS
SHOW THAT THERE'S BEEN A
DECREASE IN FACULTY FUNDING AND
THAT WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT THE
WE HAVE STUDENT SUPPORTS, BUT
THE STUDENTS GO THERE FOR AN
EDUCATION AND THAT EDUCATION IS
AS WORTHY AS ALL THE EDUCATION
THAT WE'VE PROVIDED STUDENTS IN
THE PAST, IT IS THE ONLY FACTOR
THAT KEEPS CLASSES SMALL SO THAT
STUDENTS CAN HAVE THAT
INDIVIDUALIZED, EXPERIENCE THAT
IS EVER MORE IMPORTANT AS WE
GROW IN THIS WORLD OF I, I
MOVING TO OTHER TOPICS. CFT ALSO
TO THE UNSPENT FUNDS. WORKS TO
REDUCE THE BARRIERS PART TIME
EDUCATORS FACE IN MEETING
STUDENT DEMANDS AND NEEDS. THIS
INCLUDES WORKING TOWARDS
INCLUDING STUDENTS TO HAVE
ACCESS TO PART TIME FACULTY
OFFICE HOURS, WHICH ARE NOT
CURRENTLY REIMBURSED BEYOND 50.
WE HOPE TO HAVE THAT
REIMBURSEMENT AT 100% LEVEL. WE
ALSO FURTHER HOPE TO INCREASE
THE NUMBER OF FULL TIME FACULTY
THAT STUDENTS CAN ACCESS. THANK
YOU. GENERALLY, THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. ANNA MATTHEWS WITH THE
FACULTY ASSOCIATION FOR
CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY COLLEGES,
WANTED TO THANK THE LEGISLATURE
FOR THEIR SUPPORT OF NURSING
BACHELOR'S DEGREES, REGARDING
THIS GIFT, THERE IS A LACK OF
PARITY INHERENT WITHIN THE
FORMULA. THERE ARE CLEAR WINNERS
AND LOSERS, WHICH IS NOT
SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE THE
CASE FOR A FUNCTIONING FUNDING
FORMULA. THE SUPPLEMENTAL
ALLOCATION DOES NOT REFLECT THE
CONSISTENT POVERTY RATES ACROSS
THE STATE, AND THE SUCCESS
ALLOCATION REFLECTS ONLY A VERY
NARROW SCOPE OF WHAT THE
CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY COLLEGES DO
OUTLINED IN THEIR MISSION,
REGARDING THE FTES METRICS, THE
AVERAGE STUDENT AT COMMUNITY
COLLEGES TAKES 8 TO 9 UNITS, BUT
AN FTES IS EQUIVALENT TO 15
UNITS. SO WE'RE HAVING TO SPLIT
ONE STUDENTS WORTH OF FUNDING
BETWEEN MULTIPLE HIGH NEEDS
STUDENTS. SO THANK YOU FOR
BRINGING UP THIS ISSUE. THANK
YOU. CHAIR. ALVAREZ MEMBERS
DAVID HAWKINS WITH THE COMMUNITY
COLLEGE INDEPENDENCE FACULTY
UNION. FIRST OF ALL, MR. CHAIR,
THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS ON
CALBRIGHT AND THE AND THE
QUESTION FOR ADDITIONAL
INFORMATION IN REGARDS TO THE
50% LAW, THERE IS A STATE AUDIT
THAT WILL BE ISSUED IN THE FALL,
THAT'S LOOKING AT 50% LAW
COMPLIANCE. THEY'RE ALSO LOOKING
AT GROWTH IN ADMINISTRATIVE
POSITIONS AND SALARIES, THE
ADMINISTRATION, CHANCELLOR'S
OFFICE AND DISTRICT
ADMINISTRATION COMPLAIN ABOUT
THEY DON'T HAVE MONEY FOR, FOR
PROGRAMS, WE THINK IT'S RATHER
ABSURD. FIRST OF ALL, THE 50%
LAW, IF YOU INCORPORATE
CATEGORICAL PROGRAMS, WE'RE
TALKING 37% OF THE BUDGET THAT'S
GOING INTO INSTRUCTION. SECONDLY
DURING A PERIOD WHEN WE'VE HAD A
DECLINE IN STUDENT ENROLLMENT,
ADMINISTRATIVE FULL TIME
POSITIONS UNRELATED TO STUDENT
OUTCOMES, OR STUDENT SERVICES
INCREASED DRAMATICALLY DURING
THE SAME PERIOD. FINALLY, YOUR
OWN ANALYSIS REPORTS ON IT. YOU
HAVE BUDGET RESERVES. ONE OUT OF
EVERY FOUR DISTRICTS RIGHT NOW
HAS BUDGET RESERVES IN EXCESS OF
40. IN THE PAST FOUR YEARS, THE
TOTAL AMOUNT OF RESERVES HAS
INCREASED BY OVER $1 BILLION.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD
MORNING, MR. CHAIR. MALIK BYNUM
WITH THE UW ASKED ME LOCAL 3930,
REPRESENTING OVER 171,000 HOME
CARE AND CHILD CARE PROVIDERS
THROUGHOUT THE STATE, RARE
APPEARANCE FOR US IN SUB THREE,
BUT WE'RE PROUD TO BE HERE TO
ECHO THE COMMENTS MADE BY OUR
CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE PARTNERS AND
UPLIFT OUR JOINT PROPOSAL, TO
FUND THE ONGOING PARTNERSHIP
BETWEEN UW AND THE CHANCELLOR'S
OFFICE. AS YOU HEARD, THIS
PARTNERSHIP IS DEDICATED TO
ENHANCING EDUCATIONAL
OPPORTUNITIES FOR HOME CARE
PROVIDERS, CHILD CARE PROVIDERS
AND THEIR FAMILIES, WITH A FOCUS
ON EMPOWERING UNDERREPRESENTED
ADULT LEARNERS IN WAYS THAT
AREN'T JUST WAGES AND BENEFITS.
WITH THE FIRST YEAR OF THIS
PROGRAM, INCLUDING FUNDING FROM
THE STRONG WORKFORCE PROGRAM,
WE'RE HERE TO REQUEST A $5
MILLION FOR YEAR TWO AND YEAR
THREE OF THIS PARTNERSHIP TO
FULLY CARRY IT OUT. AND WITH
THAT, RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR
SUPPORT FOR THIS PROPOSAL AS IT
MOVES THROUGH THE, THE BUDGET
PROCESS. THANK THANK YOU, CHAIR
AND MEMBERS. MARK MCDONALD ON
BEHALF OF THE LOS ANGELES SAN
DIEGO SOUTHWESTERN, CONTRA COSTA
COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICTS,
THANK YOU FOR TEEING UP THE
CONVERSATION ON THE FUNDING
FORMULA. I REALLY THINK THAT'S
GOING TO BE THE CONVERSATION FOR
THE NEXT YEAR THAT WE'RE GOING
TO NEED TO FOCUS ON, ON THE
SUMMER SHIFT, COMMUNITY COLLEGES
AREN'T COMPULSORY, SO WE DON'T
KNOW WHAT OUR STUDENT DEMAND
WILL BE UNTIL AFTER WE HAVE
FACULTY TO COVER THOSE POSITIONS
AT THE END OF THE YEAR. SO
REALLY, I AGREE WITH YOU, CHAIR,
THAT THIS NEEDS TO BE A LONG
TERME DISCUSSION AND NOT
SOMETHING THAT'S DONE WHILE OR
AFTER DISTRICTS MAKE THEIR
BUDGETS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU,
CHAIR AND MEMBERS, GOOD MORNING
OR GOOD AFTERNOON, RYAN STORM,
ON BEHALF OF THE CAL STATE
UNIVERSITY SYSTEM, I'M HERE TO
TALK TODAY ABOUT ISSUE NUMBER
TWO, NURSING PROPOSAL, WE THANK
THE ADMINISTRATION AND THE
LEGISLATURE FOR THE LANGUAGE
RELATED TO THE $60 MILLION FOR
COMMUNITY COLLEGE NURSING. THAT
INCLUDES COMMUNITY COLLEGES AND
CSU PARTNERSHIPS. AND WE HAVE WE
HAVE PROVIDED THE COMMITTEE
STAFF WITH LANGUAGE TO
STRENGTHEN THE PROGRESS OF THOSE
PARTNERSHIPS, AS THEY HAVE BEEN
A PROVEN STRATEGY TO IMPROVE
NURSING PATHWAYS. WITH 13 CSU
CAMPUSES AND 33 COMMUNITY
COLLEGES, THOSE PROGRAMS ALREADY
IN PLACE, AND WE'RE LOOKING
FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THE
ADMINISTRATION AND LEGISLATURE
ON THIS ISSUE IN THE FUTURE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD
MORNING, CHAIR AND MEMBER
STEPHANIE GOLDMAN, ON BEHALF OF
THE STUDENT SENATE FOR
CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY COLLEGES,
AS REPRESENTING ALL 2 MILLION
COMMUNITY COLLEGE STUDENTS,
INCLUDING CALBRIGHT STUDENTS,
CALBRIGHT PROVIDES A UNIQUE
LEARNING EXPERIENCE THAT'S
OTHERWISE NOT SUPPORTED BY THE
SYSTEM. WE'RE SEEING PARENTS,
FULL TIME WORKERS AND OTHER
STUDENT POPULATIONS WHO CANNOT
ATTEND TRADITIONAL COLLEGES
BENEFIT FROM THEM. THE
ALTERNATIVE TO CALVERT IS NOT A
BRICK AND MORTAR, BUT RATHER A
PREDATORY, FULLY ONLINE FOR
PROFITS, BEYOND CALBRIGHT. WHILE
OUR STUDENTS ARE PRIMARILY
FOCUSED ON AFFORDABLE STUDENT
HOUSING AND SOME FORM OF
IMPLEMENTATION OF CAL GRANT
REFORM, THIS YEAR, WE ALSO
SUPPORT THE NURSING BACHELOR'S,
AS IT WOULD BENEFIT SIGNIFICANT
NUMBER OF STUDENTS BY MAKING
BECOMING A REGISTERED NURSE MORE
EQUITABLE AND ACCESSIBLE TO LOW
INCOME AND ESPECIALLY STUDENTS
IN RURAL REGIONS. COMMUNITY
COLLEGES EDUCATE THE LARGEST,
MOST DIVERSE HIGHER EDUCATION
STUDENT POPULATION IN THE STATE,
AND IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT WE
CONTINUE TO BE FULLY FUNDED EVEN
IN TIMES OF DEFICIT. THANKS.
THANK YOU. HELLO. GOOD
AFTERNOON. WENDY B¢O WYNKOOP,
PRESIDENT OF THE FACULTY
ASSOCIATION OF CALIFORNIA
COMMUNITY COLLEGES. I WANTED TO
NOTE THAT THE 50% LAW ONLY
APPLIES TO UNRESTRICTED GENERAL
FUNDS AND OTHER FUNDS, AS
CATEGORICALS ARE THAT ARE
EARMARKED FOR INITIATIVES FOR
SUPPORT SERVICES AND OTHER
STUDENT BASIC NEEDS ARE EXEMPT
FROM THE 50% LAW. THE 50% LAW
PROTECTS OUR PRIMARY GOAL OF
INSTRUCTION LOW CLASS SIZES,
HIGH QUALITY TEACHER STUDENT
ENGAGEMENT, AND ALSO HELPS
IMPROVE STUDENT OUTCOMES. WE
HAVE CONCERNS AS FACULTY ABOUT
UNLIMITED ADMINISTRATIVE GROWTH.
IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THE 50% LAW
AND WE PREFER TO WAIT FOR THE
AUDIT AND A STUDY TO LOOK AT IT,
BEFORE THERE WERE CHANGES TO THE
50% LAW, AND THEN QUICKLY THE
DISTRICTS COULD EXPAND,
COMPETENCY BASED, EDUCATION AND
ASYNCHRONOUS MODEL IF THERE WERE
THE SAME RULES THAT APPLY TO
CALBRIGHT AS APPLIED TO THE
CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY COLLEGES
AND THE NONCREDIT SPACE, THERE
ARE SOME ATTENDANCE ACCOUNTING
ISSUES THAT KEEP US FROM BEING
ABLE TO EXPAND. SO IT'S
SOMETHING YOU MIGHT WANT TO
CONSIDER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
CHAIR MEMBERS AUSTIN WEBSTER
WITH W STRATEGIES. ON BEHALF OF
THE CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY
COLLEGES ASSOCIATION FOR
OCCUPATIONAL ED, WHICH
REPRESENTS ALL OF THE WORKFORCE,
INSTRUCTORS AND ADMINISTRATORS
THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE SYSTEM.
WE'RE SUPPORTIVE OF THE
ADMINISTRATION'S PROPOSAL FOR
FUNDING FOR ALLIED HEALTH AND
NURSING PROGRAMS. WE WOULD ALSO
JUST TO COMMENT ON SOME OF THE
CONVERSATION TODAY ABOUT THE
UNSPENT FUNDINGS IN STRONG
WORKFORCE OVER THE PRIOR COUPLE
OF YEARS. I WANT TO CAUTION THE
LEGISLATURE, AS THEY LOOK AT
SWEEPS, MANY OF THAT, MANY OF
THOSE DOLLARS ARE ALREADY
ALLOCATED FOR, AND WE'RE JUST
WAITING FOR THE CHANCELLOR'S
OFFICE TO DISTRIBUTE THEM OUT TO
OUR COLLEGES AND PROGRAMS, AND
THEN ON BEHALF OF THE ACADEMIC
SENATE FOR CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY
COLLEGES, I WOULD URGE YOU ALL
TO CONTINUE PROVIDING FUNDS AND
SUPPORT OF THE OPEN EDUCATION
RESOURCE INITIATIVE, POTENTIALLY
LOOKING AT MAYBE EVEN ZERO
TEXTBOOK COST PROGRAM, AS A FUND
SHIFT FOR THAT OPPORTUNITY. SO
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, CHAIR AND MEMBERS
ASHLEY WALKER WITH NOSSAMAN ON
BEHALF OF CITRUS COLLEGE, NORTH
ORANGE COUNTY COMMUNITY COLLEGE
DISTRICT, AND MOUNT SAN ANTONIO
COLLEGE, WE ARE SUPPORTIVE OF
THE BUDGET PROPOSAL FOR NURSING,
AS WELL AS THE BILLS THAT WORK
IN TANDEM WITH THAT BUDGET
PROPOSAL. WE APPRECIATE THE
DISCUSSION ABOUT THE FUNDING
FORMULA. WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT
FULL IMPLEMENTATION OF SQF, OF
COURSE, AND WE URGE
CONSIDERATION OF USING A THREE
YEAR AVERAGE FOR COLLEGES WHO
ARE DECLINING FOR ENROLLMENT,
BUT USING CURRENT YEAR NUMBERS
FOR THOSE WHO ARE GROWING. AND
WE'D ALSO LIKE TO URGE RETAINING
ALL STRONG WORKFORCE FUNDING, AS
HAS BEEN NOTED BY MANY OF THE
OTHER COMMENTERS. THANK YOU FOR
YOUR CONSIDERATION. GOOD
MORNING. SABRINA MEANS WITH
CAPITAL ADVISORS ON BEHALF OF
PASADENA CITY COLLEGE AND EL
CAMINO COLLEGE, WE APPRECIATE
THE LEGISLATURE'S EARLY BUDGET
ACTIONS THAT MADE NO SIGNIFICANT
CUTS TO COMMUNITY COLLEGES.
HOWEVER, THERE ARE STILL ISSUES
THAT ARE AFFECTING OUR
DISTRICTS. MOST NÓ MOST NOTABLY,
THE EXPIRATION OF THE STUDENT
CENTERED FUNDING FORMULAS HOLD
HOLD HARMLESS PROVISION. THIS
PROVISION HAS PROTECTED MANY
COLLEGES FROM FISCAL INSOLVENCY.
AS WE EMERGE FROM THE ENROLLMENT
DECLINES CAUSED BY THE PANDEMIC,
WE URGE THE SUBCOMMITTEE TO WORK
WITH THE ADMINISTRATION TO FIND
A SOLUTION THAT WILL MITIGATE
ADDITIONAL FINANCIAL DISTRESS
FROM THE HOLD HARMLESS SUNSET.
THANK YOU. HI, MOLLY MAGUIRE
WITH THE CAMPAIGN FOR COLLEGE
OPPORTUNITY, WE WANT TO ECHO THE
COMMENTS OF THE CHANCELLOR'S
OFFICE REGARDING THE
REORIENTATION THAT'S TAKEN PLACE
AS A RESULT OF THE STUDENT
CENTERED FUNDING FORMULA. THIS
WAS ALWAYS THE INTENT OF THE
FORMULA, AND WE APPRECIATE THAT
THIS STRUCTURAL CHANGE HAS
RESULTED IN A NEW WAY OF
PLANNING AND PRIORITIZING
PRIORITIES. THÀNH AN UNDERLYING
ASSUMPTION TO THE FUNDING
FORMULA IS ACCURATE INPUTS. SO
TO THE EXTENT THAT THE SUMMER
LOOPHOLE SKEWS ENROLLMENT
NUMBERS, WE WOULD AGREE THAT
THIS LOOPHOLE SHOULD BE
ADDRESSED. AND FINALLY, WE
APPRECIATE THE DISCUSSION THAT
TOOK PLACE THIS MORNING
REGARDING THE ROLE OF THE 50%
LAW IN DIVERTING FUNDING AWAY
FROM NON-INSTRUCTIONAL SUPPORTS
LIKE ACADEMIC AND TRANSFER
ADVISING THAT WE KNOW ARE
TIGHTLY TIED TO STUDENT
OUTCOMES. THANK YOU. HI. GOOD
MORNING. CAROL GONZALEZ HERE ON
BEHALF OF TRUSTEE WEST, TO SHARE
THEIR APPRECIATION FOR THE COST
OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT FOR
COMMUNITY COLLEGES TO HELP KEEP
THEM AFLOAT. ON BEHALF OF LONG
BEACH CITY COLLEGE, THEY REALLY
WANT TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S A
REVENUE BOND FOR THE STUDENT
HOUSING PROJECTS, ESPECIALLY AS
LONG BEACH HAS APPLIED OVER THE
LAST THREE YEARS. THEY'RE REALLY
EAGER TO PROVIDE THAT
OPPORTUNITY, BUT UNDERSTAND THAT
IT CAN'T HAPPEN UNTIL THE FIRST
13 PROJECTS FIGURE OUT THEIR
SOLUTION FOR THEIR FUNDING. SO
THEY'RE REALLY HOPEFUL. ON THE
TOPIC OF, NURSING, LONG BEACH
HAS AN ASSOCIATE DEGREE PROGRAM
ON THEIR CAMPUS, AND THEY'VE
SEEN FIRSTHAND THE NEED TO
PROVIDE BACCALAUREATE DEGREES.
AND THEY'RE REALLY ENCOURAGED
YOU TO SUPPORT THE GOVERNOR'S
PROPOSAL ON THAT. AND THEN
HISPANAS ORGANIZED FOR POLITICAL
EQUALITY. JUST REALLY WANTS TO
EMPHASIZE THE CAL GRANT REFORM
AND HOW THAT WILL IMPACT A LOT
OF COMMUNITY COLLEGE STUDENTS
AND THEIR PATHWAY TO TRANSFER.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH,
MEMBERS. KEVIN GORDON WITH
CAPITAL ADVISORS GROUP
REPRESENTING ALLAN HANCOCK
COLLEGE, CUESTA COLLEGE AND
SANTA BARBARA CITY COLLEGE. WE
REALLY WANTED TO JUST POINT OUT
A COUPLE OF CONCERNS THAT WE HAD
WITH THE LEGISLATIVE ANALYST'S
RECOMMENDATION TO REJECT THAT
AUGMENTATION THAT WAS GOING TO
BE FOCUSED ON NURSING. WE THINK
IT'S VITALLY IMPORTANT YOU GUYS
GET AND YOU'VE HEARD PLENTY
TODAY ABOUT THE CRITICAL
SHORTAGE THAT WE HAVE IN NURSING
ACROSS THE STATE. BEING ABLE TO
SORT OF DEMONSTRATE THAT
COMMUNITY COLLEGES ARE REALLY
THE BACKBONE FOR THE SUPPLY VÌ
IN NURSING AND THE PROGRESS
THAT'S BEING MADE RELATIVE TO
THE ISSUE OF BACHELOR'S DEGREE,
THESE FUNDS ARE GOING TO BE
TARGETED IN AN INNOVATIVE WAYS
TO TRY TO ANSWER SOME OF THOSE
CHALLENGES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON. NICK
ROMLEY HERE FROM CAPITAL
ADVISORS GROUP, REPRESENTING THE
CERRITOS COMMUNITY COLLEGE
DISTRICT TODAY, I JUST WANT TO
ECHO SOME COMMENTS FROM EARLIER
THANKING THE LEGISLATURE FOR
AVOIDING LARGE CUTS TO COMMUNITY
COLLEGES, DURING THE EARLY
BUDGET ACTION, ITEMS, WANT TO
RAISE ONE ISSUE OF PARTICULAR
IMPORTANCE TO OUR DISTRICT TODAY
. THAT'S THE STATE FUNDING
MECHANISM AROUND THE AFFORDABLE
HOUSING PROJECTS FOR STUDENTS.
THAT WAS PART OF THE 2023 BUDGET
ACT, OUR DISTRICT WAS JUDGED TO
HAVE ONE OF THE MOST COST
EFFECTIVE AND, SUSTAINABLE
PROJECTS OF THE 21 THAT WAS
SUBMITTED BY THE CHANCELLOR'S
OFFICE, THE, THE GOING FORWARD,
WE WOULD HOPE THE LEGISLATURE
WOULD ACT ON THAT FUNDING
MECHANISM. WE STAND READY. THE
PROJECT IS SHOVEL READY, AND WE
WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THOSE
STUDENTS INTO THAT HOUSING AS
SOON AS POSSIBLE. SO WE'D ASK
THE LEGISLATURE TO ACT AS SOON
AS POSSIBLE. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIR.
AND MR. FONG, WE, DAVID NEVIN
WITH CAPITAL ADVISORS GROUP, ON
BEHALF OF THE SANTA MONICA
COLLEGE, WE ARE GOING TO ECHO
THE SAME COMMENTS AS EARLIER
THAT WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE
LEGISLATURE, LEGISLATORS
COMMITMENT TO MAKING NO
SIGNIFICANT CUTS TO COMMUNITY
COLLEGES IN THE EARLY BUDGET
ACTION, IDEALLY, WE'RE HOPING IT
STAYS THAT WAY THROUGH THE MAY
REVISE AND THROUGH THE FINAL
BUDGET ACT, ONE ISSUE THAT WE
STILL SEE, PERCOLATING UP TO THE
TOP IS THE STUDENT CENTERED
FUNDING FORMULA HOLD HARMLESS
PROVISION THAT'S SET TO EXPIRE,
MUCH WITH SOME OF THE COMMENTS
MADE BY SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES
EARLIER, THERE ARE SOME
DISTRICTS THAT ARE FACING, SOME
GROWTH RIGHT NOW COMING OUT OF
MASSIVE PANDEMIC RELATED
DECLINES. AND THE SUNSETTING OF
THESE PROVISIONS WOULD
DRASTICALLY HARM, SANTA MONICA
COLLEGE ON THE WAY BACK UP
TOWARDS REACHING THOSE
PRE-PANDEMIC LEVELS, SO WE JUST
WOULD REQUEST THAT, FOR THE SAKE
OF EQUITY OF THE STUDENTS AND
BEING ABLE TO CONTINUE HIRING
AND EMPLOYING THE SAME NUMBER OF
FACULTY, WE, JUST TO TAKE
ANOTHER LOOK AT THANK YOU. HI,
I'M ANYA ALDER, THE CHAPTER
PRESIDENT FOR THE CLASSIFIED
CHAPTER 53 FOR CSCA AT CALBRIGHT
COLLEGE, I'VE ACTUALLY HAVE HAD
THE PLEASURE OF BEING AT
CALBRIGHT SINCE ITS INCEPTION.
THÀNH. AND IT'S BEEN PHENOMENAL
TO WITNESS OUR GROWTH OVER THE
LAST FEW YEARS. I REALLY WANT TO
UNDERSCORE THE PURPOSE AGAIN, OF
WHY CALBRIGHT WAS CREATED, AND
THAT REALLY IS TO SERVE SOME OF
THE MOST VULNERABLE POPULATIONS
HERE IN CALIFORNIA WHO'VE BEEN
LEFT BEHIND IN MANY WAYS FROM
HIGHER EDUCATION, WE ALSO KNOW
THAT IN TIMES OF FISCAL, TROUBLE
, THESE SAME POPULATIONS ARE
TYPICALLY THE ONES THAT GET THE
SHORT END OF THE STICK. IT'S
REALLY IMPORTANT THAT AS A STATE
THAT WE'RE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO
SERVE THESE STUDENTS, BUT ALSO
TO BE ABLE TO CREATE NEW
PATHWAYS FOR FUTURE GROWTH IN
OUR STATE. AND OUR WORKFORCE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU.
HELLO. MICHAEL STEWART,
ACADEMIC, SENATE PRESIDENT AT
CALBRIGHT. AND ACTUALLY THE IT
INSTRUCTOR FOR A STUDENT, ALICIA
HERE. SO I'VE SEEN HER GROWTH.
I'VE SEEN HER SUCCESS, AND I'VE
SEEN HER MOVE THROUGH THE COURSE
. AND JUST LIKE WITH ELISE.
ALICIA. CALBRIGHT CGRTS MISSION
IS TO TAKE THE NONTRADITIONAL
STUDENTS TO ACHIEVE THEIR GOALS
AND CONTRIBUTE TO OUR ECONOMIC
AND SOCIAL FABRIC OF OUR GREAT
STATE. RIGHT. AND BECAUSE OF
THAT, I IMPLORE YOU, AS STEWARDS
OF THE CALIFORNIA BUDGET, TO
CONTINUE TO SUPPORT CALBRIGHT AS
EDUCATORS, OUR MISSION IS TO
CREATE MORE EQUITABLE, INCLUSIVE
AND PROSPEROUS FUTURE FOR ALL.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.
HI. GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M BEN DAU,
DIRECTOR OF RESEARCH DATA
STRATEGIES AND EFFECTIVENESS
WITH CALBRIGHT COLLEGE, AND I
WANTED TO TAKE THIS MOMENT JUST
TO NOTE AND THANK OUR COMMUNITY
COLLEGE PARTNERS, INCLUDING
COMPTON COLLEGE, WITH WHOM WE
CONDUCTED A RESEARCH STUDY LAST
YEAR, THIS PARTICULAR RESEARCH
STUDY WAS AN ADDRESSABLE MARKET
STUDY THAT ALLOWED US TO BETTER
UNDERSTAND, COORDINATE WITH OUR
SISTER COLLEGE, UNDERSTAND WHAT
THE CALIFORNIA LEARNERS SPECIFIC
NEEDS ARE AND WHETHER OR NOT
THERE ARE HIGHER EDUCATION AND
SKILLING OPPORTUNITIES THAT MEET
THEIR NEEDS. WE ALSO DID A
REGIONAL INDUSTRY AND EMPLOYER
MARKET NEEDS, AND TOGETHER ARE
WORKING TO DESIGN SOLUTIONS THAT
WORK FOR ALL CALIFORNIANS. THANK
YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU ALL
PUBLIC FOR YOUR TESTIMONY. AND
WITH THAT, WE'RE ADJOURNED.
THANK.
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