GOOD MORNING. MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE AND THE PUBLIC TO THE
ASSEMBLY COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC
EMPLOYMENT AND RETIREMENT.
ASSEMBLY MEMBER FONG IS ABSENT
TODAY AND THERE IS NO
SUBSTITUTE. WE HAVE TWO ITEMS ON
AGENDA AB 3025, VALENCIA AND
AGER 11. DAVIES. AGER 11, IS ON
CONSENT. WE WILL BE LIMITING
TESTIMONY TO TWO MINUTES FOR
EACH FOR EACH AND FOR TWO
WITNESSES ON EACH SIDE OF THE
BILL. ALL OTHERS MAY ONLY STATE
THEIR NAME, ORGANIZATION OF ANY
AND POSITION ON THE BILL.
FINALLY, THE ASSEMBLY HAS
EXPERIENCED A NUMBER OF
DISRUPTIONS TO COMMITTEE AND
FLOOR PROCEEDINGS IN THE LAST
FEW YEARS SO THAT EVERYONE IS
CLEAR, CRYSTAL CLEAR bDUCT
THAT DISRUPTS, DISTURBS, OR
IMPEDES THE ORDERLY CONDUCT OF
THIS HEARING IS PROHIBITED. TO
ADDRESS ANY DISRUPTIVE CONDUCT,
I WILL DIRECT THEM TO STOP AND
WARN THE INDIVIDUAL THAT IF THEY
CONTINUE, THEY MAY BE REMOVED
FROM PARTICIPATING IN THIS
HEARING OR OR THE CAPITAL, AND
WE WILL TEMPORARILY RECESS THE
HEARING TO ADDRESS THE MATTER.
THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR YOUR
COOPERATION. WE NEED TO
ESTABLISH A QUORUM. SECRETARY
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. MCKENNA.
HERE MCKENNA. PRESENT. LAKI.
LAKI. PRESENT. BERNER. FONG
BERNER. PRESENT. FONG. HART
HERE. BURT. PRESENT. STEPHANIE.
NGUYEN HERE. STEPHANIE. NGUYEN.
PRESENT. THREE OF US. HERE.
THREE OF US. PRESENT AND WE HAVE
A QUORUM. MEMBERS, LET'S TAKE UP
THE CONSENT CALENDAR FIRST. IS
THERE ANY COMMITTEE MEMBER WHO
WISHES TO REMOVE H.J.R 11 FROM
CONSENT CALENDAR? I MOVE THE
CONSENT CALENDAR. SECOND, THE
CONSENT CALENDAR IS MOVED. AND
SECOND SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL. THE MOTION IS Dð.
EXCUSE ME. BE ADOPTED TO CONSENT
CALENDAR. MCKENNA. AM I MCKENNA?
AYE. LACKEY AYE. LACKEY. AYE.
BERNER. AYE. BERNER. IVENS. FONG
HART I HEART. AYE. STEPHANIE.
NGUYEN. AYE STEPHANIE. NGUYEN.
AYE. THREE OF US. THREE OF US.
AYE. THAT. BILL IS OUT 6 TO 0.
THAT BILL IS OUT. THANK YOU.
ASSEMBLY MEMBER. VALENCIA,
YOU'RE HERE TO PRESENT FILE ITEM
NUMBER TWO AB 3025. I UNDERSTAND
THAT YOU WILL BE ACCEPTING THE
COMMITTEE'S PROPOSED AMENDMENTS.
YES. THANK YOU. THE BILL ENJOYS
AN AYE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE
CHAIR. AND THE MOTION IS DO
PASS, AS AMENDED. YOU MAY
PROCEED WHEN READY, SIR. GOOD
MORNING. AND THANK YOU, MADAM
CHAIR. YES I WILL BE ACCEPTING,
THE COMMITTEE'S AMENDMENTS
REALLY APPRECIATE THEIR EFFORTS
ON THE PROCESS OF THIS BILL, AB
3025 ESTABLISHES A PROCESS TO
ENSURE THAT COUNTY EMPLOYEES
RECEIVE THEIR NEGOTIATED
RETIREMENT BENEFITS WITHOUT
PENALTIES, EVEN IF CERTAIN
COMPENSATION IS DISALLOWED.
DISALLOWED COMPENSATION
PROCESSES UNDERMINE THE PROMISE
OF A SECURE RETIREMENT AND
JEOPARDIZE THE INTEGRITY OF OUR
COUNTY. RETIREMENT SYSTEMS. WITH
ME TO PROVIDE TESTIMONY THIS
MORNING IS MR. DOUG SABERS,
DIRECTOR OF GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS
OF THE CALIFORNIA PROFESSIONAL
FIREFIGHTERS, AND JENNIFER ROWE,
ADVOCATE ON BEHALF OF THE
FRATERNAL ORDER OF POLICE.
ORANGE COUNTY, THANK YOU. YOU
GUYS WILL HAVE TWO MINUTES EACH.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM
CHAIR. AND MEMBERS. DOUG SUPERS
ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
PROFESSIONAL FIREFIGHTERS, CPF
IS PLEASED TO CO-SPONSOR AB
3025. I'D LIKE TO THANK THE
AUTHOR FOR BRINGING IT FORWARD
AND THE COMMITTEE FOR THEIR WORK
AND ENGAGEMENT ON THIS MEASURE.
AS NOTED BY THE AUTHOR, THIS
MEASURE WILL CREATE A CLEAR
PROCESS TO ADDRESS DISALLOWED
COMPENSATION THAT OCCURS ON OR
AFTER JANUARY 1ST, 2024. THE
STRUCTURE OF THIS MEASURE IS
SIMILAR TO PRIOR POLICIES THAT
HAVE BEEN ADOPTED TO ADDRESS
DISALLOWED COMPENSATION. THÀNH
AND CALPERS AND CALSTRS. WE
THINK THIS IS JUST AN
APPROPRIATE THING TO PROTECT THE
MEMBERS OF THE COUNTY EMPLOYEE
RETIREMENT SYSTEM, AND FOR THOSE
REASONS, WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST
YOUR AYE VOTE. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU, MADAM CHAIR, AND MEMBERS.
JENNIFER ROWE, ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA FRATERNAL ORDER OF
POLICE. PLEASED TO BE A
CO-SPONSOR OF AB 3025. WE
BELIEVE THIS CORRECTS A WRONG
FOR OUR RETIREES. SO WE
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR AYE
VOTE. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT? PLEASE
GIVE YOUR NAME, YOUR POSITION
AND YOUR ORGANIZATION. MADAM
CHAIR AND MEMBERS, PAT MORAN
WITH AARON REED AND ASSOCIATES
REPRESENTING THE ORANGE COUNTY
EMPLOYEES ASSOCIATION AND
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. GOOD
MORNING, MADAM CHAIR AND
MEMBERS, YVONNE FERNANDEZ,
CALIFORNIA LABOR FEDERATION AND
SUPPORT. GOOD MORNING, JANICE
O'MALLEY, AFSCME, CALIFORNIA IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
ARE THERE ANY WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION SEEING NONE. I WOULD
LIKE TO BRING IT BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE, I'M ASSEMBLY MEMBER.
LACKEY. YEAH I JUST WANT TO,
REQUEST TO BE A COAUTHOR.
ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER
MEMBERS, ASSEMBLY MEMBER
VALENCIA, I WANT TO THANK YOU,
YOUR STAFF, SPONSOR AND
SUPPORTERS FOR WORKING WITH THE
COMMITTEE ON AMENDMENTS. I AGREE
THAT WE MUST PROTECT RETIREES
FROM BEING FINANCIALLY HARMED BY
A MISTAKE THAT WASN'T THEIR
FAULT AND WHERE THEY HAD NO
CONTROL. I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE
MAY NEED TO BE ADDITIONAL
CHANGES AS THIS BILL MOVES
FORWARD. AND I ASK THAT YOU WORK
WITH THE COMMITTEE STAFF
REGARDING THOSE CHANGES.
HOWEVER, I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT
WHILE I'M WITH YOU IN PROTECTING
RETIREES, THE LEGISLATURE MUST
PROTECT THE ABILITY TO CONTINUE
PROVIDING A PENSION TO OUR
DEDICATED PUBLIC EMPLOYEES AS
WELL AS THE SYSTEM THAT
ADMINISTERS THEM. WE WILL NOT
ACCEPT CHANGES THAT SOMEHOW
ATTEMPT TO GET AROUND PEPRA. THE
COURT'S DECISION ON THE COUNTY
EMPLOYMENT RETIREMENT LAW THAT
INCLUDE COMPENSATION ITEMS
TOWARDS RETIREMENT THAT ARE NOT
ALLOWED AND NOT CONSISTENT WITH
THESE LAWS IN THAT DECISION. SO
I THANK YOU GUYS FOR THE WORK
THAT YOU ARE DOING. WOULD YOU
LIKE TO CLOSE, MADAM CHAIR
CONCERNS, ARE HEARD LOUD AND
CLEAR. HAPPY TO KEEP THE DIALOG
GOING AND ENSURE THAT WE COULD
WORK THROUGH ALL THE MECHANICS,
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR A YES VOTE.
THANK YOU, SECRETARY, PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL. THE MOTION IS TO
PASS, AS AMENDED. MCKENNA I
MCKENNA I LACKEY I LACKEY I
BERNER. YES. BERNER I VINCE
FONG. HEART I HEART I STEPHANIE
NGUYEN STEPHANIE NGUYEN I THREE
OF US THREE OF US I THAT BILL IS
OUT 6 TO 0. THANK YOU, THANK YOU
. WELL THIS WAS GREAT. WE HAVE
ADJOURNED. THANK YOU. VERY WELL.
THANK YOU ALL. OKAY.