BUENOS DIAS AND WELCOME TO THE
ASSEMBLY BUDGET
SUBCOMMITTEE ON ACCOUNTABILITY
AND OVERSIGHT.
SUB SEVEN IS UNIQUE BECAUSE
MEMBERS ARE SELECTED
FOR THE SUBCOMMITTEE BASED ON
THE TOPIC.
THIS PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR
A ROBUST DISCUSSION AMONGST
MEMBERS WITH SPECIALIZED
KNOWLEDGE
AND DIVERSE PERSPECTIVES.
HOMELESSNESS REMAINS A TOP
PRIORITY IN THE ASSEMBLY.
WE KNOW THAT 181,000
CALIFORNIANS EXPERIENCE
HOMELESSNESS DAILY,
AND 68% OF HOMELESSNESS HOMELESS
CALIFORNIANS ARE IN SHELTER.
TODAY'S HEARING WILL FOCUS ON
THE EFFICACY OF
THE STATE'S INVESTMENTS IN TWO
PARTICULAR PROGRAMS,
BOTH ADMINISTERED BY THE
CALIFORNIA
INTERAGENCY HOMELESSNESS
COUNCIL AND AIMED AT REDUCING
AND PREVENTING HOMELESSNESS.
THOSE TWO PROGRAMS ARE THE
HOMELESS
HOUSING AND ASSISTANCE
PREVENTION
PROGRAM AND THE ENCAMPMENT
RESOLUTION FUND PROGRAM.
THROUGH THESE TWO PROGRAMS,
THE STATE HAS INVESTED OVER $4.7
BILLION.
GIVEN THE NEED AND THE CURRENT
ECONOMIC CLIMATE,
THE GOAL OF TODAY'S HEARING IS
TO
FOCUS ON THESE TWO PROGRAMS,
TO EVALUATE OUR INVESTMENTS AND
TO DISCUSS
BEST PRACTICES MOVING FORWARD.
SUCH AS WHAT ARE THE BARRIERS TO
HOUSING
FOR OUR UNSHELTERED POPULATION?
COULD THERE BE ADDITIONAL
IMPROVEMENTS
TO THE HAPA PROGRAM?
ARE WE COLLECTING THE RIGHT DATA
ON
THESE PROGRAMS TO EVALUATE THEM?
AND WHERE IS THIS DATA HOUSED?
HOW DO WE GET BETTER
TRANSPARENCY ON THESE PROGRAMS?
AND IF WE HAVE LIMITED RESOURCES
DUE
TO THE BUDGET CLIMATE THIS YEAR,
WHERE IS THE BEST PLACE TO PUT
OUR
RESOURCES TO COMBAT
HOMELESSNESS?
I'D LIKE TO ADD THAT THE STATE
AUDITOR
RECENTLY RELEASED A REPORT ON
HOMELESSNESS THAT REVIEWED THE
ENCAMPMENT
RESOLUTIONS GRANT PROGRAM,
AND THEN ALSO THE ROUND ONE FOR
THE HAPA PROGRAM.
WHILE THE RESULTS OF THE AUDIT
ARE INFORMATIVE
AND GERMANE TO OUR TOPIC TODAY,
AS A REMINDER, THE STATE AUDITOR
IS NOT WITH US TODAY.
UH, SO SPECIFIC QUESTIONS
REGARDING
REGARDING THE AUDIT SHOULD
BE RESERVED FOR THE JOINT
LEGISLATIVE
AUDIT COMMITTEE.
I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT WE DO
HAVE THE CHAIR OF THE JOINT
LEGISLATIVE AUDIT COMMITTEE
WITH US THIS MORNING, MR.
GREG HART.
SO THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
I LOOK FORWARD TO TODAY'S
CONVERSATION,
AND NOW WE'D LIKE TO OPEN IT UP
TO
MY COLLEAGUES TO SEE IF ANYBODY
WOULD
LIKE TO MAKE SOME BRIEF REMARKS.
START WITH MR.
WARD.
&GT;&GT; GREAT.
THANK YOU, MR.
CHAIR.
I WANT TO THANK ALL OF OUR
PANELISTS
FOR BEING HERE THIS MORNING IN
MY
FOURTH YEAR NOW IN THE ASSEMBLY
AS
CHAIR OF THE HOUSING COMMITTEE.
THIS IS A ISSUE THAT IS OF KEEN
IMPORTANCE TO MYSELF AND
THE WORK THAT I AM BUILDING UPON
DOWN IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
I WAS THE CHAIR OF OUR COC FOR
THREE YEARS,
SO KNOW VERY STRONGLY BOTH THE
IMPACT AND THE VALUE
THAT THE COLLABORATION LOCALLY
CAN PRODUCE.
BUT IMPORTANTLY, COMING FROM SAN
DIEGO,
WE REALLY TRIED TO CREATE
A MODEL THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING
WE
COULD REALLY SCALE UP STATEWIDE,
AND THAT'S PART OF THE
EXPERIENCE THAT I DO
BRING INTO THIS JOB THROUGH THAT
MODEL,
MAKING SURE THAT WE'VE GOT DATA
ALIGNED
WITH BEST PRACTICES, UH,
MEASURING OUR OUTCOMES AND THEN
HELPING
THAT INFORM NEXT YEAR'S
ALLOCATIONS
OF DOLLARS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE
SHOULD
BE DOING WITH THE STATE BUDGET.
I'M AWARE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW,
UH,
BUILDING UP TO MY TIME HERE
AND I THINK AS RECENTLY AS 2021,
2022, THROUGH MANY OF OUR BUDGET
ACTIONS,
WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO STRENGTHEN
SOME OF THE REQUIREMENTS
THAT ARE TIED TO SOME OF THIS
FUNDING,
AND I THINK WE'LL BE GETTING
INTO THAT AS WELL.
I DO WANT TO THANK THE AUDITOR
FOR
THE REPORT THAT I HAD A CHANCE
TO REVIEW.
AND I THINK WHILE WE'VE BEEN
ABLE
TO MORE ASSUREDLY SAY THAT
THERE IS SOME SOME CONFIDENCE
IN SOME OF THE PROGRAMS, UH,
TEASING INTO HAP AND ENCAMPMENT
RESOLUTION FUNDING
IS SOMETHING THAT WAS JUST
WITHOUT,
I THINK, SUFFICIENT INFORMATION
TO REALLY
UNDERSTAND THEIR EFFECTIVENESS.
AND SO I KNOW WE'LL BE ABLE TO
DIVE INTO
THAT A LITTLE BIT TODAY AS WELL.
UM, AT THE END OF THE DAY, UM,
THIS IS ABOUT COORDINATION, I
THINK,
BETWEEN ALL OF OUR AGENCIES
AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE
USING OUR DOLLARS EVEN IN A GOOD
BUDGET YEAR.
WE SHOULD BE DOING THIS ALL
ALONG.
I KNOW WE'VE GOT SOME CHALLENGES
HERE,
AND WE'RE TRYING TO SAVE MANY OF
THESE PROGRAMS.
WE WANT TO DO SO IN A WAY THAT'S
EFFECTIVE TOWARDS HELPING
THE MOST CALIFORNIANS RESOLVE
HOMELESSNESS.
UM, BUT, YOU KNOW,
WHETHER IT'S A GOOD YEAR OR A
BAD YEAR,
ANY YEAR IS A GOOD TIME FOR US
TO BE ABLE TO TRY TO PERFECT
A SYSTEM THAT'S REALLY EVIDENCE
BASED
AND REALLY DRIVEN TOWARDS
MAXIMIZING OUR,
UM, OUR, UH, OUR RESOURCES.
SO I WANT TO THANK YOU IN
ADVANCE
FOR THE PRESENTATION HERE TODAY.
I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO YOUR
INFORMATION
AND LOOKING FORWARD TO THE Q AND
A AFTER.
UH, THANK YOU, MR.
WARD.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO MR.
BURKHART.
&GT;&GT; THANK YOU, MR.
CHAIR.
I REALLY APPRECIATE THE
OPPORTUNITY
TO BE WITH YOU TODAY.
UM, THIS IS REALLY AN IMPORTANT
HEARING.
AND AS MY COLLEAGUE JUST
MENTIONED,
THERE'S A LOT OF LESSONS
THAT WE NEED TO LEARN AT THE
LOCAL GOVERNMENT LEVEL
THAT WHERE FOLKS ARE ON
THE GROUND PROVIDING SERVICES
TO CALIFORNIANS THAT ARE
EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.
AND WE WANT TO TAKE THOSE BEST
PRACTICES,
TURN THEM INTO THE BEST STATE
POLICIES THAT WE CAN.
AND I'M VERY, VERY INTERESTED TO
HEAR WHAT ALL
THE FOLKS ARE HERE TODAY TO, TO
SHARE WITH US.
WONDERFUL.
MR.
HOOVER.
&GT;&GT; THANK YOU, MR.
CHAIR.
I JUST WANT TO, YOU KNOW,
APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE
A PART OF THIS COMMITTEE TODAY.
UM, I THINK THAT I ALSO
APPRECIATE
THE PARTNERSHIP, UM,
WITH SENATOR DAVE CORTESE AND
A NUMBER OF MY OTHER COLLEAGUES
ON THIS BIPARTISAN AUDIT THAT
HAS BEEN MENTIONED.
UM, APPRECIATE ALL THE STATE
AUDITORS WORK.
I THINK TODAY, YOU KNOW,
VERY APPRECIATE YOU VERY MUCH
FOR BEING HERE.
LOOK FORWARD TO DIVING INTO
THIS.
I THINK MY FOCUS OBVIOUSLY
TODAY, UH,
IN MY QUESTIONS IS GOING TO
PROBABLY BE ON THIS ISSUE
OF WE HAVE SPENT BILLIONS OF
DOLLARS IN TAXPAYER FUNDING,
UH, OVER THE LAST DECADE.
WE'VE SEEN HOMELESSNESS INCREASE
DURING
THAT SAME PERIOD OF TIME BY 53%,
ACCORDING TO THE AUDITOR'S
REPORT.
SO HOW CAN WE BE USING THESE
DOLLARS BETTER?
UM, AND AND WHAT POLICIES CAN WE
ADOPT AND WHAT TRANSPARENCY
MEASURES CAN WE ADOPT TO IMPROVE
THOSE INVESTMENTS?
AND SO, UM, JUST REALLY
APPRECIATE YOU BEING
HERE TODAY TO HELP ANSWER THOSE
QUESTIONS.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, THIS THIS
AUDITOR'S REPORT.
I THINK IF YOU'RE A TAXPAYER,
YOU SHOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT
IT.
BUT ALSO, IF YOU'RE A HOMELESS
ADVOCATE,
YOU SHOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT
IT,
BECAUSE WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE
SURE PEOPLE
ARE GETTING THE HELP THAT THEY
NEED.
SO, UM, THANK YOU FOR BEING
HERE.
THANK YOU.
NOW, MR.
JESSE GABRIEL.
&GT;&GT; YEAH.
THANK YOU.
UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR.
CHAIRMAN.
I WANT TO APPLAUD YOU.
AND THANK YOU FOR PULLING THIS
HEARING TOGETHER.
I THINK IT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT
ONE.
AND PERHAPS NO MORE IMPORTANT
TOPIC THAT WE COULD
HAVE RIGHT NOW IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA.
MORE IMPORTANT CONVERSATION THAT
WE COULD HAVE RATHER, UM,
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE KNOW
IS
TOP OF MIND FOR ELECTED
OFFICIALS
UP AND DOWN THE STATE AT ALL
LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT.
I'M VERY GRATEFUL FOR OUR
INCREDIBLE
CHAIR OF THE L.A.
COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND
THE OTHER FOLKS FROM
DEPARTMENTS AND AGENCIES THAT
HAVE JOINED US TODAY.
THIS IS A CONVERSATION THAT WE
NEED TO HAVE THAT
OUR CONSTITUENTS ARE DEMANDING
WE HAVE,
THAT HAS PROFOUND MORAL
IMPLICATIONS
AND ALSO TREMENDOUS
IMPLICATIONS FOR OUR SCARCE
STATE RESOURCES.
AND I EXPECT THIS TO BE A KEY
ISSUE FOR THIS COMMITTEE.
IT'S HARD TO THINK OF A MORE
IMPORTANT
AREA THAT NEEDS OVERSIGHT
AND ACCOUNTABILITY THAN OUR
STATE'S
HOMELESSNESS FUNDING.
UM, AND, AND WE NEED TO REALLY
HAVE A MUCH
BETTER SENSE SENSE OF WHICH
PROGRAMS
AND WHICH INTERVENTIONS ARE
MOVING
THE NEEDLE ON HOMELESSNESS.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT FOLKS
ARE COUNTING ON US TO DO,
AND BECOMES EVEN MORE IMPORTANT
AS WE ENTER A PERIOD OF
SCARCE STATE RESOURCES WHERE
WE HAVE LIMITED RESOURCES,
AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE
SOME
REALLY DIFFICULT AND
UNCOMFORTABLE
DECISIONS ABOUT HOW WE TARGET
THOSE RESOURCES.
AND SO IT IS REALLY EVEN MORE
IMPORTANT
NOW THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHAT ARE
THE PROGRAMS THAT WE CAN FUND
THAT ARE
GOING TO BE MOST MOST EFFECTIVE?
WHAT ARE THE SOLUTIONS THAT
ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO HELP
THOSE FOLKS WHO ARE EXPERIENCING
HOMELESSNESS,
WHO ARE STRUGGLING ON OUR
STREETS?
AND HOW DO WE MAKE A NOTICEABLE
DIFFERENCE?
THAT IS GOING TO GIVE
CALIFORNIANS
CONFIDENCE THAT THE PROGRAMS
AND POLICIES THAT THEIR STATE
AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS
ARE FUNDING AND THE
INTERVENTIONS
THAT THEY ARE EMPLOYING
ARE ACTUALLY MOVING THE NEEDLE
AND MAKING A DIFFERENCE.
SO I'M VERY GRATEFUL.
I THINK THIS IS A A MASSIVE
CHALLENGE FOR OUR STATE.
POLITICS AND LIFE ARE A TEAM
SPORT,
SO THIS REQUIRES ALL OF US TO BE
ON THE SAME TEAM,
TO ROW IN THE SAME DIRECTION TO
GET RESULTS.
AND I HOPE THAT THIS WILL BE
THE FIRST OF MANY CONVERSATIONS
THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ABOUT
THIS AS WE
CENTER OVERSIGHT AND
ACCOUNTABILITY
HERE IN OUR WORK
IN THE BUDGET COMMITTEE AND IN
THE LEGISLATURE.
SO THANK YOU.
ABSOLUTELY.
THANK YOU FOR THAT, MR.
GABRIEL.
UH, I WANT TO WELCOME AND
INTRODUCE
OUR WITNESSES FOR TODAY'S
HEARING.
BUT BEFORE I DO SO, LET ME JUST
REMIND FOLKS
THE UNIQUE FORMAT OF THIS, UH,
COMMITTEE,
GIVEN THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS WERE
SELECTED FOR
THEIR KNOWLEDGE ON THE SUBJECT
MATTER,
WE WILL NOT HAVE ANY FORMAL
PRESENTATIONS
TODAY BY THE PANELISTS.
ALL THE PANELISTS WILL BRIEFLY
INTRODUCE THEMSELVES,
WHO THEY REPRESENT AND THE
RESPONSIBILITIES.
AND I WOULD APPRECIATE IF YOU
KEEP YOUR
COMMENTS TO ABOUT TWO MINUTES OR
LESS,
THEN WE'LL JUMP RIGHT INTO
QUESTIONS
FROM THE COMMITTEE.
COMMITTEE MEMBERS, PLEASE HOLD
OFF ON ANY QUESTIONS
AND LET THE PANELISTS INTRODUCE
THEMSELVES.
FIRST.
WE HAVE PANELISTS IN THE ROOM
AND ALSO ON ZOOM, UH,
FOR THE PANELISTS IN THE ROOM,
STARTING FROM MY RIGHT.
UH, PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF,
UH, MISS MEGAN KIRKBY.
&GT;&GT; THANK YOU.
CHAIR.
ACTUALLY, I'M MEGAN MARSHALL,
THIS IS MEGAN KIRKEBY,
UH, TO MEGAN'S, UH,
UNDER, UNDER ONE ONE ROOF AT
THIS POINT IN TIME,
BUT I'M MEGAN MARSHALL.
I'M THE EXECUTIVE OFFICER FOR
THE CALIFORNIA
INTERAGENCY COUNCIL ON
HOMELESSNESS.
HAPPY TO BE HERE WITH YOU ALL
HERE TODAY.
THANK YOU.
&GT;&GT; I AM MEGAN KIRKBY, I'M
OUR DEPUTY DIRECTOR
FOR HOUSING POLICY DEVELOPMENT
AT HCD,
AND SO WE'RE BOTH HERE TOGETHER.
UH, BOTH OF THESE PROGRAMS ARE
MOVING FROM CAL ACH TO HCD,
AND WE'RE WORKING IN TANDEM
DURING THIS TIME.
SO YOU'LL HEAR FROM BOTH OF US
ANYTIME WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT THE HOMELESSNESS
PORTFOLIO,
UM, IN THESE PROGRAMS
SPECIFICALLY.
THANK YOU.
&GT;&GT; GOOD MORNING.
LINDSEY HORVATH, CHAIR OF THE LA
COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS,
AS WELL AS CHAIR OF THE LOS
ANGELES
HOMELESS SERVICES AUTHORITY.
UM, GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY
TO BE IN CONVERSATION WITH YOU.
THANKS ESPECIALLY TO ASSEMBLY
MEMBER
SHIAVO FOR THE INVITATION
AND TO ASSEMBLY MEMBER TING FOR
YOUR
LEADERSHIP ROLE IN CREATING HAP.
WE REALLY BELIEVE THESE FUNDS
HAVE BEEN ESSENTIAL
TO THE WORK THAT WE'VE BEEN
DOING,
AND PARTNERSHIP IS KEY IN
SOLVING THESE PROBLEMS,
WHICH IS WHY I APPOINTED MYSELF
TO THE LHASA COMMISSION,
ALONG NOW WITH OUR MAYOR,
MAYOR BASS, AS WELL AS MY
COLLEAGUE
ON THE BOARD, SUPERVISOR BARGER,
AND HAVING ALL OF US AT THE
TABLE
TO CREATE MORE ACCOUNTABILITY ON
LHASA AND HOW WE ARE OVERSEEING
THOSE FUNDS HAS BEEN ESSENTIAL.
WE HAVE ALSO INITIATED OUR OWN
AUDIT, UM,
AT THE COUNTY AND HAS, AS HAS
THE CITY AND OTHERS.
AND SO, UM, THERE HAVE BEEN
LOCAL
DECLARATIONS OF EMERGENCY.
UH, THE LOS ANGELES RESIDENTS
ARE TAXING THEMSELVES TO MAKE
SURE THAT WE'RE INVESTING OUR
OWN RESOURCES IN THIS.
SO WE DO HAVE SKIN IN THE GAME
LOCALLY.
AND WE KNOW THAT ENCAMPMENT
RESOLUTION EFFORTS
HAVE BEEN INCREDIBLY HELPFUL TO
TO THE EFFORT
AND TO GAINING BACK PUBLIC TRUST
IN TERMS OF SEEING
A MEANINGFUL DIFFERENCE ON THE
STREETS.
UM, THE COUNTY'S PROGRAM,
PATHWAY HOME,
THE CITY'S PROGRAM INSIDE SAFE,
AND OTHERS HAVE REALLY MADE A
MEANINGFUL DIFFERENCE.
AND ONE OF THE WAYS THAT WE AT
THE COUNTY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO USE
THE HAP $3 HAS BEEN ALSO TO
ALLOCATE
IT BACK TO LOCAL GOVERNMENTS,
TO MAKE SURE THE MONEY IS
MEETING FOLKS EXACTLY
WHERE THEY ARE AND WHERE IT
NEEDS TO BE.
AND I'M SURE I'LL HAVE MORE
TIME TO SHARE MORE LATER.
BUT THANK YOU FOR THE
INVITATION.
&GT;&GT; GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS ANNA LEE TRUJILLO AND
I'M FROM
THE PALA BAND OF MISSION
INDIANS,
PAULA HOUSING RESOURCE CENTER,
AND I'M HONORED TO BE HERE
REPRESENTING
A TRIBAL ASPECT.
UM.
FOR TRIBAL HELP AND HOW THE
PROGRAM HAS WORKED
FOR US ON ON INDIAN
RESERVATIONS.
AS YOU KNOW, THERE'S 110
FEDERALLY
INDIAN RESERVATIONS
THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA.
AND WITH TRIBAL HAP,
ONLY 20 MILLION HAS BEEN
ALLOCATED
FOR TWO ROUNDS ROUND ONE AND
ROUND TWO.
UM, I KNOW THERE'S 980, UM,
MILLION DOLLARS BECAUSE THERE'S
A $1 MILLION
BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR, I BELIEVE
IS PROPOSED,
AND 980 MILLION WILL GO TO
CITIES
AND LOCAL JURISDICTIONS,
AND 20 MILLION IS PROPOSED TO BE
ALLOCATED,
UM, FOR TRIBES.
AND OUT OF THAT, UM, IT'S NOT
VERY MUCH MONEY.
SO I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE
SUCCESSES
AND WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH OUR OUR
FUNDING,
OUR LIMITED FUNDING, BUT HOW
GREAT THE PROGRAM
HAS BEEN FOR US ON THE TRIBAL
SIDE OF IT.
THANK YOU.
WONDERFUL.
THANK YOU AND HAPPY TO HAVE YOU
ALL JOIN US TODAY.
LET'S MOVE ON TO ZOOM.
LET'S START WITH THE HONORABLE
MAYOR, MR.
TODD GLORIA.
THANK YOU, MR.
CHAIRMAN, AND GOOD MORNING,
CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE.
IT'S GREAT TO SEE SOME OLD
FRIENDS
AND MY REPRESENTATIVE.
ASSEMBLY MEMBER WARD.
UH, MR.
CHAIRMAN, I'M HERE NOT JUST
AS THE MAYOR OF SAN DIEGO,
BUT ALSO AS THE CHAIR OF THE
CALIFORNIA
BIG CITY MAYORS COALITION.
UH, THAT IS A BIPARTISAN
COLLECTIVE OF 13
OF THE LARGEST CITIES IN
CALIFORNIA,
REPRESENTING 11 MILLION
RESIDENTS OF OUR STATE.
OUR GROUP IS UNITED IN
IDENTIFYING HOMELESSNESS
AS THE NUMBER ONE CONCERN,
AND WE ARE DEEPLY APPRECIATIVE
OF
THE LEGISLATURE AND THE GOVERNOR
AS ALLOCATION OF THE FUNDING
UNDER
HAP AND HEAT PREVIOUSLY.
AND ALSO SHOUT OUT TO SOME
MEMBER, PHIL TING,
FOR HIS LEADERSHIP IN GETTING
THOSE DOLLARS CREATED.
I WANT TO SHARE WITH THE
COMMITTEE THIS MORNING
THAT THIS ISSUE REMAINS OUR TOP
PRIORITY,
AND THAT WE ARE URGING STATE
LEADERS TO FULLY FUND
HAP ROUND SIX AT NO LESS THAN $1
BILLION.
AND PERHAPS EVEN MORE
IMPORTANTLY,
TO MAKE THIS AN ONGOING FUNDING,
UH,
SOURCE THAT CAN SPEAK TO SOME OF
THE ISSUES ABOUT EFFECTIVENESS.
I'M HAPPY TO GET INTO THAT
FURTHER.
ALSO, WHILE I HAVE YOUR EAR, MR.
CHAIRMAN, I WOULD ASK FOR THE
PUSHING
OUT OF THE $360 MILLION IN BONUS
FUNDING THAT WAS ORIGINALLY
APPROVED
BY MANY OF YOU SEVERAL YEARS
AGO,
THAT I THINK COULD MAKE A
MEANINGFUL DIFFERENCE
TODAY IN CITIES ACROSS
CALIFORNIA.
AND THEN IN EXCHANGE FOR THAT,
WE WELCOME BEING HELD
ACCOUNTABLE, NOT JUST CITIES,
BUT ALSO COUNTIES AND CONTINUUMS
OF CARE FOR
THE RESULTS THAT THESE FUNDS
SHOULD BE CREATING,
NOT JUST THROUGH ADDITIONAL
SHELTER BEDS,
BUT HOUSING OPTIONS AND PEOPLE
EXITING FROM
HOMELESSNESS AND OTHER KEY
OUTCOMES.
I REALIZE THAT THIS IS FOCUSED
TODAY ON ACCOUNTABILITY.
I JUST WANT TO ASSURE YOU THAT
WE
I'M SORRY MY OFFICE SENT YOU ALL
COPIES OF A RECENT REPORT FROM
THE BIG CITY MAYORS COALITION,
SO YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT WE
ARE
UTILIZING THESE FUNDS FOR.
BUT I THINK SPECIFICALLY, I
WOULD SHARE WITH YOU
THAT THERE WOULD BE A
TREMENDOUSLY LARGE AMOUNT
OF MORE FOLKS ON THE STREETS IF
WE
DID NOT HAVE THE BENEFIT OF
HEAP,
HAP AND HEAP FUNDING.
AND SO WE ASKED FOR CONTINUED
PARTNERSHIP TO
MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THESE
DOLLARS OUT.
FINALLY, MR.
CHAIRMAN, I WOULD SAY BECAUSE I
KNOW
WE'LL GET INTO A BACK AND FORTH.
UM, CITIES LIKE MINE ARE DOING
EVERYTHING
WE CAN TO PUT OUR DOLLARS OUT
THERE.
UM, OUR CITY, I'M PROUD TO SAY,
HAS 83% OF OUR HAP
ROUND FOUR FUNDING SPENT AND
COMMITTED ALREADY.
AND WE'RE CONTINUING COMMITTED
TO CONTINUE USING THAT.
UH, WORKING WITH THIS COMMITTEE
AND WITH MEMBERS OF THE
LEGISLATURE,
WE'RE HAPPY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
COLLECTIVELY
HOLD OTHER LOCAL GOVERNMENTS
ACCOUNTABLE.
AND FRANKLY, IF THEY DON'T USE
IT,
GIVE IT TO FOLKS WHO CAN.
UM, BUT AND PERHAPS LASTLY, ON
THAT FRONT,
I WANT TO MAKE SURE LEGISLATORS
WERE MINDFUL OF THE FACT
THAT CITIES ARE ALSO PONYING UP
OUR OWN DOLLARS.
WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR STATE
FUNDING.
WE USE IT TO LEVERAGE SOME OF
OUR LOCAL FUNDS.
FOR EXAMPLE, IN MY PROPOSED
CITY BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR,
I'M ALLOCATING $55 MILLION IN
GENERAL FUND
MONEY FROM THE CITY OF SAN
DIEGO.
THIS IS TO COMPLEMENT THE 30
MILLION
THAT WE'RE RECEIVING IN HAP
FUNDING.
SO THE ONGOING PARTNERSHIP IS
APPRECIATED.
BUT WE WELCOME ACCOUNTABILITY,
AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO FINDING
WAYS TO GET
THESE DOLLARS OUT FASTER SO WE
CAN
GET MORE PEOPLE OFF THE STREETS.
UH, AND LOOK FORWARD TO GREATER
CONVERSATION.
THANK YOU, MR.
CHAIRMAN.
THANK YOU, MR.
MAYOR.
LET'S MOVE ON TO CHERI TODOROFF.
GOOD AFTERNOON AND THANK YOU FOR
THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE
TODAY.
I AM CHERI TODOROFF.
I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF
THE LOS
ANGELES COUNTY HOMELESS
INITIATIVE.
I AM HERE FOR THE QUESTION
AND ANSWER COMPONENT TODAY
AND TO PARTNER WITH WITH CHAIR
HORVATH ON THAT.
WELCOME.
THANK YOU.
AND LET'S LASTLY MOVE ON TO MISS
EMILY COHEN.
&GT;&GT; UH, GOOD MORNING,
CHAIRMAN, AND THANK YOU TO
THE COMMITTEE FOR INCLUDING ME
IN THIS CONVERSATION.
MY NAME IS EMILY COHEN.
I'M THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF
THE SAN FRANCISCO DEPARTMENT
OF HOMELESSNESS AND SUPPORTIVE
HOUSING.
AND I FIRST WANT TO START BY
THANKING ASSEMBLY
MEMBER TING FOR BEING A TIRELESS
ADVOCATE FOR THESE RESOURCES AND
THE SUPPORT
LOCALLY TO IMPLEMENT PROGRAMS.
&GT;&GT; HIP HOP AND.
ENCAMPMENT RESOLUTION HAVE ALL
BEEN INCREDIBLY
ESSENTIAL RESOURCES FOR OUR
COMMUNITY.
AS FOLKS MAY KNOW, SAN FRANCISCO
IS A CITY,
A COUNTY, AND A CONTINUUM OF
CARE,
AND SO WE HAVE A UNIQUE ABILITY
TO BREED
RESOURCES AND BRINGING IN LOCAL,
STATE, AND FEDERAL DOLLARS
TOGETHER,
WORKING IN THE SAME DIRECTION
IS IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT
FOR REDUCING HOMELESSNESS.
AND THE NEARLY 1000 SHELTER BEDS
WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ADD TO OUR
SYSTEM BY LEVERAGING THESE STATE
DOLLARS IS HAVING A REAL
IMPACT ON INCREASING THE NUMBER
OF
PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS
WHO ARE OFF THE STREET AND IN A
SUPPORTIVE,
DIGNIFIED PLACE WHILE THEY WORK
ON
THEIR PERMANENT HOUSING
SOLUTIONS
AND REALLY EXCITED TO BE ABOUT
A PART OF THE CONVERSATION
TODAY.
UM, AS MAYOR GLORIA SAID,
ONGOING FUNDING FOR THESE
PROGRAMS
IS A HUGE PRIORITY
FOR THE CITY AND COUNTY OF SAN
FRANCISCO,
AS IS ACCOUNTABILITY.
WE HOLD OUR SOCIAL SERVICE
PROVIDERS ACCOUNTABLE,
THE COMMUNITY HOLDS US
ACCOUNTABLE,
AND WE EXPECT NOTHING LESS, UM,
IN OUR PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE
STATE.
AND WE ARE VERY HAPPY TO WORK
WITH YOU ON THAT.
UM, AND AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR
INCLUDING ME IN
THE CONVERSATION AND HAPPY TO
JOIN THE DIALOGUE.
WONDERFUL.
WELCOME.
AND IF I CAN CIRCLE BACK TO THE
PANELISTS,
UH, MISS KIRKBY AND MISS
MARSHALL,
I THINK YOU ALL HAD BRIEF
STATEMENTS TO ADD,
IF YOU'D LIKE.
APPRECIATE THAT.
AS APOLOGIES FOR RUNNING A
LITTLE BIT LATE,
I APPRECIATE THE TECHNICAL
ISSUES.
I'M NOT SURE IF IF WE HAVE
ENOUGH
IN STOCK WITH THE GREATER
BEINGS TO HAVE ALLOWED THAT,
BUT APPRECIATE THE THE TIME.
SO AGAIN, MY NAME IS MEGAN
MARSHALL.
I'M THE EXECUTIVE OFFICER FOR
FOR CAL.
ACH, UM, SEVERAL COMMENTS WERE
MADE
AROUND THE AUDIT AND I WOULD
JUST
LIKE TO TO ADD A FEW OF MY OWN
PRIOR
TO MY MARCH 2023 APPOINTMENT.
IN THIS POSITION, I SERVED
NEARLY 20
YEARS IN COUNTY GOVERNMENT, UH,
MOSTLY IN SACRAMENTO COUNTY,
BUT INCLUSIVE OF YUBA AND PLACER
COUNTY,
ALL OF WHOM ARE RECIPIENTS OF
AT LEAST ONE OF THE CURRENT
CAL GRANT PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE
HERE TODAY TO DISCUSS.
UM, AND SO AS THIS BODY IS READ
IN CALAIS,
SIEGE'S AUDIT RESPONSE, WE HAD
EFFORTS UNDERWAY,
UM, FAR BEFORE THE AUDIT WAS
CONDUCTED TO, UH,
TO MOVE FORWARD IN THE
RECOMMENDATIONS.
THANKFULLY, THE AUDITOR, UH,
CO-SIGNED FOR US.
UH, AND SO JUST WOULD APPRECIATE
IF YOU'VE NOT READ KALISH'S
RESPONSE,
IF YOU COULD PLEASE GIVE US THE
COURTESY.
APPRECIATE THAT.
UM, SO WITH THAT, I WILL TURN
IT OVER TO MEGAN KIRKEBY.
THANK YOU.
GREAT.
THANK YOU.
UM, YES.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE
TODAY.
AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE
COMMENTS ABOUT
THE NEED TO HAVE THIS KIND OF
CONVERSATION,
EVEN IF WE WEREN'T IN LEAN
TIMES.
UH, IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO
HCD
TO LEAD WITH ACCOUNTABILITY.
THAT DOES INCLUDE LOCAL
FLEXIBILITY.
WE KNOW THAT THERE IS A
DIVERSITY
OF GRANTEES IN THE STATE.
UM, AND WE'RE WE'RE REALLY
EXCITED TO
BE INHERITING THIS PORTFOLIO,
UH,
AND WORKING TOGETHER CLOSELY
WITH CAL TO REALLY
INCREASE THE IMPACT OF ALL OF
THESE DOLLARS.
THIS IS A SUBSTANTIALLY
DIFFERENT SETUP THAN
MOST STATE GRANT MAKING IS DONE
IN.
UM, THIS WAS REALLY ABOUT
GETTING DOLLARS OUT
THE DOOR SO THAT PEOPLE COULD
MOVE QUICKLY.
UM, AND WITH FLEXIBILITY.
AND I THINK WHAT WE'VE SEEN IS
AN EVOLUTION, UM,
EVERY SINGLE YEAR WHERE THE
LEGISLATURE
IS GIVEN MORE GUIDANCE ON,
ON, ON REALLY EMPHASIZING IMPACT
ON REALLY EMPHASIZING
OUTCOMES OUT OF THESE PROGRAMS.
UH, AND I THINK WE'RE IN WE'RE
READY FOR THAT EVOLUTION.
UM, WE ARE SIGNALING THAT TO OUR
GRANTEES.
WE ARE SIGNALING THAT TO THE TO
THE STAFF, UM,
THAT THIS REALLY NEEDS TO BE
ABOUT
IMPACTFUL ELIGIBLE USES,
UM, THAT THIS NEEDS TO BE ABOUT,
UM, UH,
MORE COMMUNICATION ABOUT
OBLIGATION OF FUNDING.
UH, THERE ARE UNSPENT AND
UNOBLIGATED FUNDS
FROM ALL FROM ALL OF BACK TO
HARP ONE.
UM, NOT EVERY GRANTEE IS
THE SAME AS YOU WERE HEARING.
AND SO IT'S IMPORTANT WE'RE
GOING TO BE BEGINNING A,
UH, HYPER DEDICATED, UH,
TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE WORK WITH
ALL
OF OUR GRANTEES ON THOSE HARP,
ONE THROUGH $4, UH,
TO REALLY UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY
ARE AT IN
THE USE OF THEIR GRANTS AND TO
REALLY WORK WITH
THEM ON INCREASING IMPACT OF
THEIR REMAINING
DOLLARS AND REMAINING
UNOBLIGATED DOLLARS.
UM, HAVE HAVE FOUR AND FIVE
DO HOLD CERTAIN FUNDS ASIDE
UNTIL YOU HAVE SPENT PERCENTAGES
OF YOUR FUNDING.
AND SO WE'LL BE WORKING TO
REALLY MAKE,
MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS IN
PARTNERSHIP.
IT'S NOT A GOTCHA EXERCISE.
IT'S REALLY ABOUT HOW DO WE HELP
ALL OF OUR GRANTEES CHOOSE
CHOOSE FUNDING USES THAT ARE
GOING TO HAVE STRONG IMPACT.
AND HOW DO WE HELP THEM OBLIGATE
AND EXPEND THOSE FUNDS, UM,
THAT HAVEN'T HAVEN'T YET BEEN
OBLIGATED
OR EXPENDED TO DATE?
UM, SO THAT'S WHAT I THINK
YOU'LL BE
SEEING A LOT AND HEARING A LOT.
UM, AS HCD, UH, TAKES TENURE
OVER THESE PROGRAMS.
BUT WE'LL CONTINUE THAT
PARTNERSHIP WITH
CAL ACH THE ENTIRE TIME IN TERMS
OF, UM,
REALLY THAT THIS DATA THAT
YOU'RE
HEARING ABOUT IN SOME
OF YOUR OTHER CONVERSATIONS TO
REALLY UNDERSTAND,
UM, AND, AND GET MORE
INFORMATION OUT THERE ON
THE LINKAGE BETWEEN SPENDING
AND, AND IMPACT.
UM, AND ALSO JUST WHAT'S GOING
ON ON THE GROUND.
UM, AND THEN WE'LL ALSO BE
WORKING
CLOSELY WITH CAL H ON
THE LATEST DATA BACKED EVIDENCE
AROUND THAT IMPACT.
SO NOT JUST USING OUR OWN DATA,
BUT REALLY PARTNERING WITH THE
ACADEMIC
COMMUNITY AND THE POLICY
RESEARCH ARMS OF CAL ACH TO MAKE
SURE THAT THIS
IS A DATA INFORMED PROGRAM GOING
FORWARD.
UM, HAPPY TO HAPPY TO ENGAGE.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT.
BUT THAT'S UM,
THAT'S THAT'S THE THE EVOLUTION
CONTINUING
UNDER THE GUIDANCE THAT WE'VE
ALL SEEN FROM,
FROM LEGISLATURE ON THIS LATEST
EVOLUTION OF,
OF HARP FUNDING.
THANK YOU.
LET'S NOW JUMP RIGHT INTO SOME
QUESTIONS.
I'LL START BY ASKING A FEW.
UH, LET ME START WITH THE HAP
PROGRAM.
UH, IT'S BEEN COMMUNICATED THAT
EFFICIENCY AND RESULTS ARE
OF A TOP PRIORITY RIGHT NOW FOR
THE STATE ASSEMBLY,
CONSIDERING THE BUDGET SITUATION
THAT WE'RE IN.
AND THAT SHOULD ALWAYS BE THE
INTENT
WHENEVER WE'RE ALLOCATING,
UH, PUBLIC RESOURCES WITH WHAT
WE NOW KNOW,
BASED ON SOME OF THE AUDIT
FINDINGS
AND THE DATA POINTS THAT WERE
BROUGHT UP,
AND THEN THE PARAMETERS THAT
WE'VE PUT IN PLACE
MOVING FORWARD WITH POTENTIAL
FUNDING, UH,
DO WE THINK THAT IT'S A GOOD, A
GOOD BASE TO,
TO MOVE FORWARD AND ACTUALLY
YIELD THE RESULTS INTENDED?
OR DO YOU THINK THAT WE NEED TO
CONTINUE
TO EXPAND ON THE PARAMETERS,
KNOWING WHAT WE KNOW NOW?
UH, IS A GREAT QUESTION.
UH, UH, MEGAN MARSHALL AND
MYSELF SPEND
QUITE A BIT OF TIME ON THIS
QUESTION.
SO WE ARE NOW IN THE PHASE OF
HAP FIVE,
UM, WHERE WE ARE GETTING IN.
UM, UH, THE TRIBAL APPLICATIONS
WILL FOLLOW,
BUT WE ARE GETTING IN THOSE, UM,
THOSE BASE APPLICATIONS AND HAVE
HAD
THE CHANCE TO REVIEW AND PROVIDE
FEEDBACK.
AND SO ALL OF THE GRANTEES HAVE
GOTTEN FEEDBACK
ON COMPLETENESS OF THEIR
APPLICATION,
BUT ALSO ADDITIONAL EMPHASIS ON
SOME OF THE,
UM, A REQUEST TO ALL THE
GRANTEES TO, UM,
TO TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE FUNDING
PLANS THAT WERE SUBMITTED,
UM, IN LINE WITH THE GUIDANCE
THAT WE PROVIDED
THROUGH THE NOFA AND THAT WAS
UM,
PROVIDED IN TERMS OF THE THE NEW
STATUTORY CHANGES TO REALLY
EMPHASIZE PERMANENT SOLUTIONS
AND SUSTAINABILITY,
UM, OF INVESTMENTS IN THOSE
CATEGORIES.
UH, AND TO REALLY KEY IN ON
IMPACT OF,
OF THOSE INTENDED USES OF THE
FUNDS.
AND SO WE'RE ASKING ALL OF OUR
GRANTEES TO
TAKE ANOTHER TAKE ANOTHER RUN AT
THAT.
WE DO BELIEVE THAT THE STATUTE
CALLS THEM TO DO SO.
AND, UM, AND WE ARE ASKING THEM
TO WORK IN PARTNERSHIP WITH
US TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE THESE
ARE STRONG APPLICATIONS.
UH, SO WE WILL ENSURE THAT THOSE
FUNDING PLANS, UH,
AND THOSE PERFORMANCE METRICS
ARE IN GOOD SHAPE,
UM, BEFORE WE APPROVE THESE
APPLICATIONS.
AND SO I THINK THAT'S WHERE
WE'RE
AT ON HAP FIVE, UM, RIGHT NOW.
AND THERE THERE IS SUPPLEMENTAL
FUNDING, UM,
THAT THAT DOES HOLD THE GRANTEES
EVEN TO
SOMEWHAT OF AN ADDITIONAL BAR OF
MAKING SURE
THEY'RE CONTINUING TO SPEND
DOWN, UM,
AND OBLIGATE THESE FUNDS, UH,
IN APPROPRIATE MANNER AS WELL
AS REACH REACH GOALS LIKE
HOUSING ELEMENT COMPLIANCE
BEFORE THEY RECEIVE
THAT EXTRA SUPPLEMENTAL FUNDING.
UM, SO WE DO SEE HAP FIVE AS A,
AS A PRETTY IMPORTANT
EVOLUTION IN TERMS OF FOCUS ON
IMPACT,
AS WELL AS PUTTING IN SOME SOME
METRICS THAT
CLICK ON FURTHER TRANCHES OF
FUNDING.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE
ALWAYS GOING TO IMPLEMENT,
UM, UH, THE DESIRE OF THE
LEGISLATURE
ON THESE PROGRAMS.
UM, BUT IN TERMS OF HAP FIVE,
THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A CLUE OF
KIND OF WHAT WE'RE SEEING
AND WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE, UM,
PROVIDING ADDITIONAL TO, TO OUR
GRANTEES TO TRY
AND GET THOSE FUNDING PLANS IN
GOOD SHAPE BEFORE,
UM, AWARDS OVER THE SUMMER.
UH, THANK YOU ENOUGH.
I CAN ALSO CONTINUE THE
CONVERSATION
AT THE LOCAL LEVEL,
WHETHER IT'S THE COUNTY OR THE
BIG CITY MAYORS.
UM, WHAT IS THE WHY?
IS THE PROCESS TAKING SO LONG TO
ACTUALLY GET THE RESOURCES OUT?
RIGHT?
AND HOW DO WE NOW MOVE FORWARD
WITH WHAT WE KNOW NOW?
I'M HAPPY TO START.
I THINK PART OF THE ISSUE AT IN
LA COUNTY
HAS BEEN SILOING OF RESOURCES.
AND SO THE ACCOUNTABILITY THAT
WE'VE
PUT INTO PLACE BY BRINGING,
UM, AS MAYOR BASS WOULD SAY, BY
LOCKING ARMS,
BUT WORKING TOGETHER BETWEEN
COUNTY AND CITY,
BY MAKING SURE THAT LHASA IS
ACCOUNTABLE,
BY HAVING ALL OF US AT THE
TABLE.
WE RECENTLY AT THE COUNTY ALSO
CREATED
THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE ON
REGIONAL
HOUSING ALIGNMENT TO MAKE SURE
THAT
WE ARE BRINGING ALL OF THESE
THINGS
TOGETHER AND NOT ALLOWING
DIFFERENT SOURCES
OF FUNDING TO GO IN DIFFERENT
DIRECTIONS,
BUT ALL HAVE IT WORK UNDER A
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
UM, BUT WE HAVE ALSO SEEN THAT
THAT
MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH
RESOURCES TO ADDRESS THE
PROBLEMS
IS ONLY PART OF THE ISSUE.
WE ALSO HAVE TO ADDRESS THE
PIPELINE
OF PEOPLE FALLING INTO
HOMELESSNESS.
AND SO I THINK THAT PIECE ALSO
CONTRIBUTES
TO WHY IT FEELS LIKE
WE'RE NOT SEEING THE SIGNIFICANT
DIFFERENCE ON OUR STREETS,
WHEN IN REALITY, THESE DOLLARS
ARE MAKING
A VERY MEANINGFUL DIFFERENCE.
WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO HOUSE IN LA
COUNTY ALONE,
OVER 120,000
PEOPLE IN THE PAST HANDFUL OF
YEARS,
AND WE CONTINUE TO DO SO.
AND WE SEE THE NUMBERS THAT
ARE ON OUR STREETS BECAUSE
OF PEOPLE WHO ARE FALLING INTO
HOMELESSNESS.
SO WE HAVE TO DO BOTH.
AND WOULD MRS.
COHEN MIND ADDING TO THAT
QUESTION IF POSSIBLE?
ABSOLUTELY.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THE
INTEREST AND THE FOCUS
ON SPENDING DOWN THESE RESOURCES
QUICKLY
IS CAN BE CHALLENGING FOR THE
LOCAL GOVERNMENT,
BECAUSE HERE IN SAN FRANCISCO,
WE HAVE WORKED ON IMPLEMENTING A
MULTI-YEAR
SPENDING PLAN TO ENSURE THAT
OUR HAP GRANT INVESTMENTS CAN BE
SUSTAINED AS LONG AS POSSIBLE.
SO 3 TO 4 YEARS AND REALLY
MAXIMIZE THE PROGRAM
INVESTMENTS OF ONE TIME
RESOURCE.
AND I THINK I DO THINK THAT AS
WE HOLD GRANTEES
ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE SPEND DOWN,
IF THIS FUNDING SOURCE WAS
A MORE PREDICTABLE SOURCE,
IF WE KNEW IT WAS COMING YEAR
AFTER YEAR,
IT WOULD BE MUCH EASIER TO
ENSURE A RAPID SPEND DOWN.
BUT AS THE PROGRAM IS CURRENTLY
STRUCTURED,
WE ARE LOCAL COMMUNITIES ARE
GIVEN A FEW
YEARS TO SPEND EACH TRANCHE OF
FUNDING,
AND WE ARE VERY INTENTIONALLY
BUILDING THAT FUND THOSE
FUNDS ON TOP OF EACH OTHER AND
BRAIDING THEM
WITH OTHER RESOURCES SO THAT THE
PROGRAMS WE START
WITH HAP FUNDING DO NOT END
RIGHT AWAY.
IF THE SOURCE DRIES UP, OR IF
THE ALLOCATION IS
DRAMATICALLY REDUCED DURING HARD
BUDGET YEARS.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, AS WE THINK
ABOUT MAINTAINING CONTINUITY
OF SERVICE FOR THE CLIENTS,
AND HERE IN SAN FRANCISCO,
WE'VE REALLY FOCUSED ON SHELTER
BECAUSE OF THE OTHER
RESOURCES WE HAVE AVAILABLE FOR
PERMANENT HOUSING.
UM, AND SO WANTING TO SPEND THAT
IN A MEASURED WAY.
SO WE'RE NOT SHUTTING DOORS.
IT'S BEEN REALLY IMPORTANT TO
OUR STRATEGY.
THANK YOU, MR.
MAYOR.
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO
THAT, BY ANY CHANCE?
I DO, MR.
CHAIRMAN.
THANK YOU.
I WOULD SAY THAT AS A FORMER
LEGISLATOR,
I THINK THERE'S MAYBE A
PERCEPTION ISSUE.
IF I WERE STILL SITTING WHERE
YOU'RE SITTING NOW.
YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU ALL VOTE TO
ALLOCATE THESE FUNDS
AND WHEN CITIES AND COUNTIES
ACTUALLY RECEIVE THEM,
THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT
OF TIME IN BETWEEN THAT.
AND SO I WOULD UNDERSTAND VERY
MUCH
IF I VOTED FOR SOMETHING ON THE
FLOOR
AND THEN WAS LOOKING FOR THE
OUTCOMES
THE NEXT DAY, THAT'S NOT THE
CASE.
THERE ARE ALSO SIGNIFICANT
REPORTING DELAYS
WITH REGARD TO WHAT MAY BE THE
MY PRESENT.
WHAT I WOULD TELL YOU IS PRESENT
DAY SPIN,
AND WHAT YOU MAY SEE PROBABLY
LAGS BY A COUPLE OF MONTHS.
I BELIEVE THE GOVERNOR AND HCD
ARE
WORKING TO ADDRESS THOSE
CONCERNS.
TO GIVE YOU ALL A MORE REAL TIME
PERSPECTIVE ON WHAT'S GOING ON,
BUT I THINK WHATEVER CAN BE DONE
TO PUSH
THE MONEY OUT FASTER WOULD BE
BENEFICIAL.
I THINK WHATEVER WE CAN DO FOR
MORE REAL TIME MONITORING
WOULD ALSO ADDRESS THIS
PERCEPTION CONCERN.
BUT LET ME BE CLEAR, THERE ARE
STILL CHALLENGES,
AND I WOULD JUST SAY FROM A
LOCAL PERSPECTIVE,
THE SECOND I HAVE THOSE DOLLARS
IN PLACE,
MAYBE SOME OF THE MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE
HAVE LIVED THIS EXPERIENCE.
ONCE YOU TRY AND ESTABLISH A
SHELTER,
THERE'S A USUALLY A PROCESS THAT
CAN BE SOMEWHAT DIFFICULT.
THERE'S USUALLY AT A MINIMUM,
COMMUNITY, UH, DISCUSSION,
COUNCIL VOTES AND THEN
IMPORTANTLY,
AN RFP FOR PROVIDER.
AND I THINK THAT'S ONE THING
THAT THAT ONGOING
FUNDING BECOMES VERY IMPORTANT
FOR.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE ASKING FOR
SOMEONE TO TAKE ON
THE RESPONSIBILITY OF RUNNING
ONE OF THESE RESOURCES,
FUNDED WITH HAP, THE
UNDERSTANDING,
THE KNOWLEDGE THAT MONEY WILL BE
THERE
YEAR AFTER YEAR BEFORE YOU STAFF
UP,
THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY PAY
PAYROLL
WELL BEYOND THE ONE YEAR
HORIZON.
YOU CAN TAKE A LEASE THAT GOES
LONGER
THAN A YEAR WITH SOME CERTAINTY.
WE WORK TO DO THAT NOW, BUT THAT
ONGOING
NATURE OF THE COMMITMENT,
WHICH ESSENTIALLY YOU ALL HAVE
ALREADY DONE
THAT BY FUNDING THIS YEAR AFTER
YEAR,
BUT THE COMMITMENT WOULD GO A
LONG WAY TO,
I THINK, GETTING A MORE ROBUST
POOL OF BIDDERS ON SOME OF
THESE CONTRACTS HOPEFULLY GET
US A BETTER PRICE POINT,
BUT IMPORTANTLY TO GET THESE
DOLLARS OUT SWIFTER.
SO I THINK THERE'S A MULTITUDE
OF THINGS HERE,
BUT I DO SEE SOME MOVEMENT AT
THE STATE LEVEL,
AND WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND MATCH
YOU AT THE LOCAL LEVEL
TO GET THESE DOLLARS OUT AS FAST
AS POSSIBLE.
I APPRECIATE THAT, AS I SAY,
MATCH ENERGY RIGHT.
GOOD.
UH, NOW LET'S MOVE ON TO
ASSEMBLY
MEMBER SHARON QUIRK-SILVA.
&GT;&GT; UH, THANK YOU, MR.
CHAIR, FOR CONVENING THIS
HEARING.
IT IS ONE OF THE MOST CRITICAL
CONVERSATIONS
OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
AS WE KNOW, HOMELESSNESS IS AT
THE TOP OF EVERYBODY'S LIST.
WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT POLLING,
WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT INDIVIDUALS,
PEOPLE ARE NOT ONLY CONCERNED,
BUT THEY'RE ALSO FRUSTRATED.
UH, I NOW HAVE BEEN WORKING IN
THIS SPACE FOR QUITE A WHILE,
AND IT FEELS LIKE A LONG TIME.
BUT REALLY, IN REALITY, UH,
CITIES,
LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES,
IT'S REALLY BEEN JUST OVER A
DECADE
THAT THEY'VE REALLY HAD TO
FOCUS,
UH, SPECIFICALLY ON
HOMELESSNESS.
I WAS ON FULLERTON CITY COUNCIL
2004 TO 2012,
AND IT WAS NOT AT THE TOP OF OUR
LIST AT THAT POINT.
SO OVER A DECADE WE HAVE SEEN
THE CHANGE.
UH, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS BEING
A LEGISLATOR IS WE HAVE SEEN
MANY,
MANY BILLS, UH, PIECES OF
LEGISLATION
PASSED IN THIS PERIOD.
I THE WORD STREAMLINING ALWAYS
COMES TO
THE TOP OF THE LIST OF ALMOST
ANYBODY,
UH, IS WHY AREN'T WE WORKING
FASTER?
WHY AREN'T WE WORKING WITH MORE
URGENCY?
WHY AREN'T WE STREAMLINING?
SO I KNOW, UH, SOME OF THE
PIECES OF LEGISLATION
ARE ACTUALLY HERE ON THIS AGENDA
WITH HAVING,
UH, THE CALIFORNIA INTERAGENCY
COUNCIL.
THAT WASN'T ALWAYS, UH, PART OF
WHAT WE WERE DOING.
IN ADDITION, WE'VE HAD HOMELESS
CZARS BEING PRESENTED.
WE'VE HAD EXECUTIVE COMMITTEES,
WE'VE HAD THE GOVERNOR CONVENE.
SO WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT IS
THAT IS A LOT OF COORDINATING.
IT'S A LOT OF MEETINGS.
ANY OF US WHO HAVE SAT ON THESE
TYPE OF COLLABORATIVES,
COALITIONS KNOW IT CAN BE
MEETING AFTER MEETING.
BUT WHAT I GUESS I WANT TO GET
IS A SNAPSHOT
OF WHAT DOES THAT REALLY LOOK
LIKE,
HOW ARE YOU CONVENING, HOW OFTEN
AND HOW ARE WE ACTUALLY
STREAMLINING.
IF YOU CAN GO, JUST GIVE US
A SNAPSHOT OF MAYBE WHAT HAVE
HAPPENED FIVE YEARS AGO TO
WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW.
SO THAT'S QUESTION ONE.
AND THEN, UH, I'M GOING TO STOP
THERE.
BUT I DO HAVE A IDEA.
AND I KNOW WE DON'T ALWAYS COME
TO COMMITTEES WITH IDEAS,
BUT I DO WANT TO PLANT,
UM, A SEED, BECAUSE I DO SEE THE
SUPERVISOR
SITTING RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME.
AND I KNOW THAT LA SUPERVISORS
ARE
LOOKING FORWARD FOR A SOLUTION,
AND THAT IS TO LOOK AT OUR
CALIFORNIA
FORMER STATE HOSPITALS,
LOOK AT THE VAST AMOUNT, ANY
AMOUNT
OF ACREAGE IN NORWALK.
IN LOS ANGELES, THERE IS 300
ACRES
OF FORMER STATE HOSPITAL.
AND THEY HAVE A PLAN TO HOUSE
NOT ONLY,
UH, KIND OF CARE,
COURT, FOSTER CARE AND REALLY
REIMAGINING THESE CAMPUSES.
SO I'M GOING TO PUT THAT
FORWARD, AS I KNOW,
THROUGH OUR BUDGET COMMITTEE,
WE WILL BE CONVENING A HEARING
ON THAT.
BUT THE QUESTION IS, WHAT DOES
STREAMLINING
LOOK NOW WITH, UH,
EXECUTIVE OFFICERS, WITH HOUSING
CZARS,
WITH STREAMLINING?
UH, IF YOU CAN GIVE US SOME
SPECIFICS
ON WHAT HAS BEEN STREAMLINED.
I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION.
UM, SO CAL H WILL RETAIN THREE
DIVISIONS POST
THE TRANSITION OF OUR GRANTS
PROGRAMS TO,
TO HCD, UM, ONE OF THOSE
DIVISIONS IS
THE DIVISION OF STATEWIDE
POLICY.
UM, INCLUDED IN THE WORK OF
STATEWIDE POLICY
IS THE WORK OF OUR GREATER
COUNCIL,
WHICH INCLUDES 1919 LEADERS
ACROSS
STATE DEPARTMENTS AND AGENCIES,
INCLUDING CABINET SECRETARIES,
DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS.
THAT BODY MEETS QUARTERLY AND IS
RESPONSIBLE
FOR 19 STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS,
UM, INCLUDING THE IMPLEMENTATION
OF HOUSING FIRST,
INCLUDING THE STREAMLINING UM TO
USE
TO USE THAT TERM UM OF OF
BUDGETS,
APPLICATIONS, REPORTING
REQUIREMENTS, ETC..
UH, OUT OF THE WHAT DIRECTS
THE WORK OF THE COUNCIL IS,
IS A DOCUMENT CALLED THE
STATEWIDE ACTION
PLAN TO PREVENT AND END
HOMELESSNESS.
UM, IN FULL TRANSPARENCY TO THIS
BODY.
THAT DOCUMENT HAS, TO DATE BEEN
MERELY A LISTING OUT OF,
OF, UH, OF PROGRAMS AND
OFFERINGS THAT ARE EXISTING,
UM, FROM, FROM OUR COUNCIL
MEMBER
DEPARTMENTS AND AGENCIES.
IT HAS NOT BEEN A DOCUMENT
UTILIZED
TO INFORM POLICY OR
MEANT TO TO BE FORWARD THINKING
THAT THAT WILL CHANGE.
WE ARE UNDERGOING THAT
TRANSFORMATION
NOW WITH ALL OF
OUR OF OUR COUNCIL MEMBER
DEPARTMENTS AND AGENCIES,
UM, EMBEDDING METRICS,
WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE
NOT INCLUDED HISTORICALLY IN THE
ACTION PLAN, UM,
TO TO FURTHER, UH, HOLD
OURSELVES ACCOUNTABLE FOR,
FOR THE CONVERSATIONS THAT HAVE
BEEN,
YOU KNOW, LONGSTANDING,
UM, AS AN EFFORT TO, TO REINVEST
IN THE PUBLIC'S
TRUST OF WHAT THIS COUNCIL IS,
IS MEANT TO DO.
YES.
SO I THINK WHAT YOU HEARD FROM
EXECUTIVE
OFFICER MARSHALL IS REALLY HOW
WE'RE TRYING TO HOLD OURSELVES
ACCOUNTABLE
FOR THAT STREAMLINING
SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE A BUNCH
OF
DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS ASKING
LOCALS TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT
FROM EACH OTHER,
THAT WE'RE HAVING A COORDINATED
PLAN TO END HOMELESSNESS
FROM WHAT WE CONTROL AT THE
STATE LEVEL.
AND THEN I THINK IN TERMS OF OUR
GRANTEES,
SOME OF WHAT YOU'LL SEE THAT'S
DIFFERENT.
THERE IS IT'S GOING TO LOOK
DIFFERENT FOR DIFFERENT
GRANTEES IS A BIG PART OF HOW WE
HAVE INTERACTED
WITH LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AT HCD IS
TO UNDERSTAND THAT
LOCALS AND REGIONS ARE IN
DIFFERENT PHASES.
UH, THEY ARE THEY DO HAVE
SPECIFIC,
UH, UH, UNIQUE SITUATIONS.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN THERE ISN'T
KNOWLEDGE
WE CAN TRANSFER ACROSS ALL OF
THOSE,
BUT WE NEED TO WORK WITH THE
GRANTEES
FROM WHERE THEY'RE AT.
AND SO I THINK YOU HEARD A LOT
OF COMMENTS ABOUT
THE REASONS WHY YOU YOU MIGHT
NOT EXPEND
ALL OF YOUR FUNDS RIGHT AWAY IF
YOU'RE TRYING
TO REALLY STRETCH THESE DOLLARS.
AND THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.
UM, WE ARE TRYING, BUT BUT ALL
OF THE GRANTEES ALSO
HAVE TO REPORT ON THEIR
OBLIGATION OF FUNDS.
AND SO THAT VERY MUCH DOES ALLOW
FOR SORT OF
MULTI YEAR PLANNING WITH THESE
DOLLARS.
UM, AND YOU CAN DO THINGS LIKE
CAPITALIZED
OPERATING RESERVES OR OTHER
STRATEGIES THAT EVEN WHEN YOU'RE
THINKING ABOUT ONE TIME FUNDING,
ALLOW FOR THAT SUSTAINABLE
STRETCHING
OUT OF DOLLARS OVER TIME.
AND THAT'S IN LINE WITH THE
GOALS OF THE PROGRAM.
SO WE'LL NEED TO BE WORKING.
WE'LL WORK DIFFERENTLY WITH A
GRANTEE THAT
HAS A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF
THEIR HAP ONE,
TWO, $3 UNOBLIGATED, YOU KNOW,
THAT'S GOING TO BE THAT'S GOING
TO BE A PLACE FOR US
TO INTERVENE AND PROVIDE A
DIFFERENT LEVEL OF TO,
UM, THAN FROM SOME OF OUR
GRANTEES.
YOU'RE HEARING UP FROM THAT, UM,
HAVE OBLIGATED THEIR FUNDS ARE
READY
FOR THEIR NEXT TRANCHE AND ARE
HOPING
OUR REPORTING IS SPEEDING UP,
AND WE'LL HAVE A DIFFERENT
STRATEGY
FOR THEM, WHICH IS,
UH, I THINK I THINK THE MAYOR
FOR HIS COMMENT ON THIS,
WE ARE MOVING TO A REAL TIME
REPORTING SITUATION.
RIGHT.
SO THAT GRANTEES, WHEN THEY
OBLIGATE DOLLARS,
WHEN THEY SPEND DOLLARS,
THEY WANT TO REPORT THAT TO US,
THAT WE'LL HAVE THAT THEY WON'T
HAVE TO
WAIT FOR THE NEXT REPORTING
PERIOD.
THEY CAN JUST TELL US WHENEVER
THEY WANT TO TELL US THAT,
AND WE'LL MAKE THAT INFORMATION
MORE TRANSPARENT,
UM, TO GRANTEES, BUT ALSO TO THE
PUBLIC.
UM, BECAUSE A BIG PART OF THE
ACCOUNTABILITY, UH,
PIECE IS THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS
WHERE THIS MONEY IS GOING
AND KNOWS WHERE THIS MONEY IS AT
THE CURRENT MOMENT.
SO THAT'LL BE I THINK A BIG PART
OF THE STREAMLINING
IS ALSO JUST SPEEDING UP THE
AMOUNT, THE, THE,
THE DISTANCE BETWEEN ACTIVITIES
THAT ARE HAPPENING
AND WHEN YOU ALL ARE GETTING TO
HEAR ABOUT THEM.
UM, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IN THE
MORE
THAN SIX MONTHS THAT I'VE
BEEN KIND OF WORKING ON THIS
PORTFOLIO
WITH MEGAN MARSHALL,
I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS I'M
SEEING IS OFTEN GRANTEES
THAT ARE DOING EXTRAORDINARY
THINGS WITH THESE FUNDS,
BUT ARE NOT NECESSARILY TELLING
US,
TELLING THE WORLD ABOUT THAT.
AND SO SOME OF THIS IS GOING TO
BE
ACCOUNTABILITY TO CHANGE
BEHAVIOR,
AND SOME OF THIS IS GOING TO BE
ACCOUNTABILITY.
THAT'S ABOUT TRANSPARENCY AND
SORT
OF UPLIFTING GOOD OUTCOMES.
UH, AND SOME OF THIS IS GOING
TO BE ABOUT SAYING, HEY,
YOU DON'T REALLY NEED TO SPEND
FUNDS ON THAT.
THAT'S SOMETHING THE STATE'S
ALREADY TAKEN CARE OF.
UH, WHY DON'T YOU GO AHEAD AND,
UH,
SEE IF YOU'D BE WILLING TO SPEND
YOUR FUNDS IN
IT IN A WAY THAT'S GOING TO BE
MORE IMPACTFUL.
AND SO I THINK THOSE ARE JUST A
FLAVOR
OF SOME OF THE WAYS THAT WE'LL
BE ABLE
TO ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISH THAT
STREAMLINING
PIECE THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING TO.
SO THANK YOU.
AS A FOLLOW UP TO THAT QUESTION,
WHAT'S THE TIME FRAME TO
ACTUALLY
IMPLEMENT THAT PROCESS?
SO RIGHT NOW I WOULD SAY BY WE
ARE CHANGING
OUR GRANTEE REPORTING PORTAL
RIGHT NOW.
SO IT WILL BE OPEN ALL THE TIME
SO
THE GRANTEES CAN CAN REPORT AS
THEY SPEND.
SO I'D SAY THAT'S PROBABLY IN
THE NEXT MONTH OR TWO.
THEY'LL HAVE THAT CAPABILITY IF
NOT SOONER.
UM, AND THEN UH, IN WE ARE UM,
WE ALSO HOLD OFFICE HOURS EVERY
TWO
WEEKS WITH ALL OF OUR GRANTEES.
I THINK YOU'LL SEE A SHIFT IN
THOSE SORT OF ALSO, UM, UH,
BEGINNING OF REALLY, UH,
THAT'S THAT'S WHERE WE'LL HELP
RELAY SORT OF.
BROADER TO.
AND THEN WE HAVE OFTEN USED UM,
UH, WE,
WE HAVE A LOT OF CONTRACTS THAT
OUR GRANTEES USE TO HELP THEM
WITH TO I THINK WE'RE GOING TO
BE TRYING AS, AS HCD,
UH, WE HAVE A LOT OF ADMIN
INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO SOME OF THE PROGRAM FUNCTIONS
THAT YOU JUST HAVE TO BE
DONE AT THE STAFF LEVEL WILL
HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE DO.
AND WE CAN REALLY GET THAT TEAM
WORKING AT A,
AT A ONE ON ONE TO LEVEL WITH
GRANTEES.
AND THAT'S STARTING TO HAPPEN
NOW.
I THINK THAT'LL ROLL OUT FULLY
POST JULY.
AND WILL THAT INFORMATION BE
PUBLIC?
YEAH, ALL OF.
THAT, ALL OF THAT IS ALL OF
THAT IS BEING COMMUNICATED.
AND ALL OF THAT IS, UM, UH,
PART OF OUR PART OF OUR, UM,
APPROACH WITH THE TRANSITION
AND RELATED TO BOTH THE,
THE WORK THAT YOU'LL,
YOU'LL HEAR ABOUT IN THE BUDGET
FROM WHAT WE'RE HOPING CONTINUES
TO HAPPEN AT CAL H,
AS MARSHALL WAS TALKING ABOUT
THAT COORDINATED
ACTION PLANNING EFFORT AND,
AND ALL THE GIS AND DATA PIECES
AND THEN THE WORK
OF HCD TAKING ON THIS GRANTEE
PORTFOLIO.
DO WE KNOW HOW MUCH HAS ACTUALLY
GONE OUT
AND HASN'T GONE OUT YET FUND
WISE?
YES WE DO.
I DON'T HAVE THOSE NUMBERS IN
FRONT OF ME,
BUT I CAN FOLLOW UP RIGHT AFTER
THIS.
WONDERFUL.
THANK YOU.
LET'S MOVE ON TO ASSEMBLY MEMBER
SCHIAVO,
IF SHE'S READY TO GO.
&GT;&GT; THANK YOU.
MY APOLOGIES FOR BEING LATE,
BUT, UH,
IT'S NOT A REFLECTION OF HOW
IMPORTANT
THIS ISSUE IS TO ME, FOR SURE.
AND I'M VERY HAPPY TO SEE MY OWN
SUPERVISOR HERE
TODAY WHO'S DOING GREAT WORK IN
THIS SPACE.
UM, I ACTUALLY CO-FOUNDED AN
ORGANIZATION
WORKING ON HOMELESSNESS
AND HAVE DONE OUTREACH TO
ENCAMPMENTS
IN THE WEST SAN FERNANDO VALLEY,
UH, WHERE WE REACHED OVER 500
INDIVIDUALS EVERY SUNDAY.
UM, AND SO I'M STILL IN TOUCH
WITH
A NUMBER OF THOSE UNHOUSED FOLKS
AND HAVE BEEN WORKING TO GET
THEM PERSONALLY
WORKING TO GET THEM HOUSED.
UM, AND ONE OF THE.
FRUSTRATIONS, UM,
THAT I'VE SHARED WITH THE
SUPERVISOR,
AND I KNOW SHE'S SHE SHARED THE
FRUSTRATION IS HOW
MANY TOUCHES IT TAKES TO GET
SOMEONE INSIDE.
UM, THERE'S KIND OF A NARRATIVE
OUT THERE
ABOUT PEOPLE BEING SERVICE
RESISTANT,
WHICH BOGGLES MY MIND BECAUSE
THAT
HAS NOT BEEN MY EXPERIENCE
IN TALKING WITH PEOPLE
EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE,
WHEN PROJECT ROOMKEY OPENED
DURING COVID,
WE WERE OUT TRYING TO CONNECT
PEOPLE
UP WITH THOSE OPPORTUNITIES.
EVERY PERSON THAT I TALKED TO,
OF THE 40 PEOPLE ON MY OUTREACH
ROUTE,
WANTED TO GET INSIDE.
AND ONLY A COUPLE OF PEOPLE HAD
QUESTIONS ABOUT WHETHER OR
NOT IT WOULD WORK FOR THEM,
IF THEIR PARTNER COULD GO,
IF THEIR PET COULD GO, IF THEY
COULD BRING,
YOU KNOW,
BIG TOOLS THAT THEY NEED TO MAKE
MONEY.
RIGHT.
REASONABLE QUESTIONS.
UM, AND RECENTLY I WAS WORKING
TO GET FOLKS INTO HOUSING,
IN PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING
THAT I FOUGHT
FOR IN MY OWN COMMUNITY OF
CHATSWORTH.
UM, AND SPECIFICALLY,
OVERWHELMINGLY
IS FOR VETERANS WHERE
THEY WERE HAVING A HARD TIME
FILLING THOSE SPOTS OUTS.
UM, AND WHEN I WAS OUT DOING
OUTREACH,
TRYING TO FIND VETERANS IN OUR
COMMUNITY WHO MAY BE ELIGIBLE,
PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT VETERANS WERE
ASKING ME,
WHAT ABOUT THEM?
YOU KNOW, WHERE'S HOUSING FOR
THEM?
UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW,
I KNOW ONE OF THE THE CHALLENGES
IS AROUND OBVIOUSLY NOT HAVING
ENOUGH HOUSING.
UM, BUT ONE OF THE CHALLENGES IS
AROUND
GETTING PEOPLE INSIDE MORE
QUICKLY.
AND I WONDER, SO I'M JUST GOING
TO READ A TEXT MESSAGE FROM
ONE OF THE UNHOUSED FOLKS THAT
I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH.
AND HE SAID, UM, WE'RE FINALLY
GETTING HIM INSIDE.
I MET HIM ON THE STREETS IN
2019,
AND WE'RE FINALLY GETTING HIM
INTO
THE HOUSING IN MY COMMUNITY,
WHICH BRINGS TEARS TO MY EYES.
UM, BUT HE SAID IT WASN'T EASY.
IT TOOK FIVE WORKERS FROM FIVE
DIFFERENT AGENCIES,
PLUS MYSELF,
PLUS FOUR GOVERNMENT AGENCIES,
FRONT DESK REPRESENTATIVES, PLUS
YOURSELF.
MEANING OUR ME PERSONALLY AND
OUR OFFICE.
UM, WHO KNOWS HOW MANY OTHER
AGENCIES AND REPRESENTATIVES
WERE NOT SEEN AT MY LEVEL?
UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW,
I'VE TALKED WITH FOLKS ABOUT,
YOU KNOW,
HAVING TO GO IN FOR A BACKGROUND
CHECK
AND THEN AND THEN HAVING TO
GO IN FOR AN APPLICATION AND
THEN
HAVING TO PROVIDE DOCUMENTATION.
AND THEN MONTHS PASSED
AND THEY DON'T GET HOUSED YET.
SO THEN THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE
MORE DOCUMENTATION
OVER AND OVER AND OVER.
AND I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME
WORK IN LA,
SPECIFICALLY WITH MAYOR
BASIRE'S, UM,
EMERGENCY DECLARATION THAT HAS
HELPED,
I THINK, WITH SOME OF THIS AS
WELL.
UM, AND I KNOW THE SUPERVISOR
HAS
BEEN SHARED THIS FRUSTRATION
AND REALLY BEEN WORKING TO
MAKE CHANGES WITHIN LHASA,
BUT I WONDER, UM, YOU KNOW,
WHAT'S BEING DONE AROUND REALLY
STREAMLINING?
BECAUSE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT I
KNOW
THIS IS PARTLY A CONVERSATION,
BUT MORE ON THE LOCAL LEVEL.
UM, BECAUSE WHEN WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT STREAMLINING,
IT'S NOT ONLY, YOU KNOW,
HOW EFFECTIVELY AND QUICKLY
WE GET PEOPLE INTO HOUSING,
BUT IT'S ALSO RESOURCES, RIGHT?
EVERY TIME THAT THAT HE HAS TO
GO BRING SOME MORE PAPERWORK,
IT'S TAKING AWAY FROM SOMEONE
ELSE WHO COULD BE
MEETING AND TRYING TO GET
HOUSING AT THAT TIME.
RIGHT.
IT'S TAKING STAFF TIME.
IT'S TAKING STAFF RESOURCES.
UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, HOW IS
THIS
CONVERSATION KIND OF EVOLVING
TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS MORE
STREAMLINING AND, YOU KNOW,
DIFFERENT AGENCIES WORKING WITH
THE SAME PEOPLE AREN'T
KIND OF STUMBLING OVER
THEMSELVES AND ASKING FOR
THE SAME DOCUMENTATION AND
REALLY
CREATING IN THE END,
WHAT ARE BARRIERS FOR PEOPLE TO
GETTING HOUSED?
I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION.
IF I CAN START AND THEN AND TURN
IT OVER TO
THE THE REST OF THE PANEL FOR
COMMENT.
THAT WAS EXACTLY THE INTENTION
OF OF THE REQUIREMENT FOR
A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING
IN THE FIFTH ROUND OF HAP.
UM THAT MOU COMMITS THE COX, THE
CITY,
THE COUNTY TO ONE ANOTHER TO SAY
I AM RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS.
I EXPECT YOU TO BE RESPONSIBLE
FOR THAT.
AND AS A COMMUNITY, WE WILL
SERVE.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE GREATER NEED.
UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE
THE REGIONALLY
COORDINATED COORDINATED HOMELESS
ACTION PLANS THAT HAS BEEN A
STAPLE SINCE,
I BELIEVE, THE THIRD ROUND OF
HAP.
UM, BUT THE THE REQUIREMENT FOR
THE MOU REALLY SOLIDIFIES
WHAT IT IS THAT WE'VE EXPECTED
AND HAVE SEEN,
UM, IN THESE ACTION PLANS, BUT
PERHAPS NOT BEING,
UM, NOT BEING LIVED OUT IN
COMMUNITIES.
AND SO THE LAST THING I'LL SAY
TO,
TO YOUR QUESTION, ASSEMBLY
MEMBER,
IS THAT A SECOND DIVISION THAT
WILL REMAIN AT CAL ACH POST
THE TRANSITION OF GRANTS IS OUR
DIVISION OF LOCAL INITIATIVES.
UM, THAT TEAM IS IS BROKEN UP
REGIONALLY
AND IS INTENDED TO BE EXPERTS
IN THE UNIQUE NEEDS OF OF OF
FOUR
REGIONS ACROSS CALIFORNIA.
UM, THAT TEAM IS ALSO DEPLOYED,
UH, UPON REQUEST AND,
AND DO PROACTIVE OFFERINGS FOR,
FOR IN-PERSON TECHNICAL
ASSISTANCE.
UH, SO MUCH SO THAT I ATTEND
THESE THESE ONE ON ONES
WITH WITH MY DIRECTOR OF LOCAL
INITIATIVES.
AND SO IT IS NOT, YOU KNOW, AN
ANALYST THIS IS NOT,
YOU KNOW, A PERSON WITH A POLICY
BACKGROUND.
THESE ARE FROM THE HIGHEST LEVEL
OF CAL ACH ROLLING OUR SLEEVES
UP TO SUPPORT OUR LOCAL
COMMUNITIES IN THIS WAY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE
QUESTION.
AS YOU KNOW, I SHARE YOUR
FRUSTRATION.
WHEN I FIRST GOT ONTO THE BOARD
AND APPOINTED MYSELF TO LOSS,
I LEARNED THAT IT COULD THERE
COULD BE
MORE THAN 100 TOUCHES BEFORE
SOMEBODY
ACTUALLY GOT THE SERVICES AND
HOUSING
THAT THEY WERE SEEKING.
UM, INCREDIBLY FRUSTRATING TO
HEAR,
ESPECIALLY AS WE'RE ALL WORKING
COLLABORATIVELY TO TRY
AND INVEST RESOURCES INTO THE
SYSTEM AS QUICKLY
AS POSSIBLE TO GET PEOPLE OFF
THE STREETS.
UM, PART OF IT IS SYSTEMS NOT
TALKING TO EACH OTHER.
PART OF IT IS, UM, THE FEDERAL
REQUIREMENTS
THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH.
AND SOME OF WHAT YOU'RE TALKING
ABOUT ACTUALLY
COMES FROM THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT,
WHICH IS WHY WE WERE BACK THERE.
UM, PRETTY REGULARLY.
I KNOW THE MAYOR GOES BACK AS
WELL.
UM, TO MEET WITH HUD,
TO MEET WITH THE VA, TO MEET
WITH,
UM, YOU KNOW, ALL THE FOLKS WHO
ARE INVOLVED IN,
IN THESE REQUIREMENTS TO HELP
THEM UNDERSTAND EXACTLY
WHAT THAT IMPACT LOOKS LIKE ON,
ON THE GROUND.
AND THEY ALL SHARE WITH ME THAT
THEY KNOW THAT LOS ANGELES
IS A DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE THAN
THE REST OF THE COUNTRY,
BUT THEY HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT
THE REST OF THE COUNTRY WHEN
THEY'RE MAKING THEIR GUIDELINES,
WHICH WE APPRECIATE.
AND THAT DOESN'T HELP LOS
ANGELES MOVE MORE QUICKLY.
SO WE ALSO IN THE COUNTY, AFTER
THE MAYOR
DECLARED HER STATE OF EMERGENCY,
I WAS LIKE, WELL, HOW CAN THE
CITY BE
IN AN EMERGENCY WITHOUT THE
COUNTY?
SO WE ALSO DECLARED OUR STATE
OF EMERGENCY AND THAT, UH,
PROCEDURALLY ALLOWED US TO MOVE
MORE
QUICKLY IN TERMS OF HIRING,
BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES, TO
THE CHAIRS PREVIOUS QUESTION,
SOMETIMES NOT HAVING ENOUGH
STAFF IS PART OF
THE REASON WE'RE NOT ABLE TO GET
FUNDING OUT,
BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ABLE TO
EFFECTUATE
THOSE SERVICES MOST QUICKLY.
UM, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT
WE DID WAS EXPEDITE
HOW FUNDING GETS OUT THROUGH
CONTRACTING.
AND SO THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF
STREAMLINING
PROCEDURALLY WITHIN
THE COUNTY AS A RESULT OF THAT
DECLARATION OF HOMELESSNESS.
WE ALSO HAVE ESTABLISHED IN THE
COUNTY OUR OWN
HOMELESS ENCAMPMENT RESOLUTION
PROGRAM.
AND TODOROV, WHO'S ONLINE, UM,
CAN SPEAK TO THE DETAILS.
UH, BUT PATHWAY HOME MAKES SURE
THAT NOT ONLY ARE WE WORKING
AND DOING THE OUTREACH TO
IDENTIFY
WHO'S ON THE STREETS,
IDENTIFYING HOUSING SOLUTIONS
FOR THEM IN THE INTERIM,
BUT IT ALSO PLANS OUT THE LONG
TERM
HOUSING SOLUTION FOR THE PEOPLE.
SO RATHER THAN LEAVING PEOPLE IN
LIMBO FOR
EXTENDED PERIODS OF TIME IN
INTERIM,
WE HAVE WORKED TO MAKE SURE THAT
IT'S
ALL ALIGNED FROM THE OUTSET.
AND SO WE KNOW WHERE PEOPLE ARE
GOING IN THE SYSTEM.
I AGREE WITH YOUR COMMENT ABOUT
SERVICE RESISTANCE.
UM, WE HAVE CERTAINLY SEEN THAT
PART
OF PART OF THE ISSUE IS THAT
THERE AREN'T ENOUGH LOCATIONS
AND THROUGHOUT THE REGION.
AND SO I JUST MET WITH A
COLLEAGUE
RECENTLY WHERE THE ELECTED
LEADERS
SHARED THAT WHEN THEY
EXPERIENCE, QUOTE UNQUOTE,
SERVICE RESISTANCE,
IT OFTEN WAS BECAUSE THERE
WEREN'T
SERVICES AVAILABLE IN THE AREA
WHERE SOMEBODY WAS THEY WERE
GOING
TO BE SENT TO A COMMUNITY FAR,
FAR AWAY THAT WAS SEPARATE FROM
THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY KNEW.
AND SO THAT'S AN EXTRAORDINARY
CHALLENGE,
BUT ALSO TO STRUCTURAL
STREAMLINING,
BECAUSE THAT'S IMPORTANT TO AS I
MENTIONED EARLIER,
WE CREATED THE EXECUTIVE
COMMITTEE ON HOMELESSNESS,
UH, REGIONAL ALIGNMENT,
AND THAT IS BRINGING TOGETHER
ALL ELECTED
OFFICIALS FROM AROUND THE
REGION.
SO WE HAVE THAT OVERALL INSIGHT
INTO HOW WE
STRATEGIZE AND WORK TOGETHER
PROCEDURALLY.
UM, THAT WAS A RECOMMENDATION
THAT CAME OUT
OF THE COUNTY'S BLUE RIBBON
COMMISSION.
AND SO NOW IT'S BRINGING
EVERYONE TO THE TABLE,
BECAUSE LASSO WAS ACTUALLY
CREATED
OUT OF A COURT DECISION
TO COORDINATE THE RELATIONSHIP
BETWEEN THE CITY OF
LOS ANGELES AND HOW THE COUNTY
WORKS WITH IT.
IT HAS, BY DEFAULT SORT OF
BECOME A REGIONAL ENTITY,
BUT IT WASN'T ORIGINALLY
INTENDED
TO BRING EVERYONE TOGETHER
IN THE WAY THAT WE ARE NOW
THROUGH
THIS EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE.
THE SECOND THING IS CREATING
HIGH,
WHICH IS THE LEADER OF
AND MAKING SURE THAT HOMELESS,
THE HOMELESS INITIATIVE IN THE
COUNTY IS SORT
OF THE OVERSIGHT OF ALL OF THE
ALL OF
THE PLACES WITHIN THE COUNTY
DEPARTMENTS WHERE
HOMELESS SERVICES AND SUPPORTS
EXIST.
AND THEY GET STREAMLINED THEN
THROUGH SHERRY'S LEADERSHIP.
SO STRUCTURALLY, BY CREATING
THOSE TWO ENTITIES,
WE ARE FORCING EVERYONE TO WORK
TOGETHER,
GET OUT OF THEIR SILOS,
GET UNCOMFORTABLE AND GET
WORKING TOGETHER.
I KNOW THE MAYOR HAS A HARD STOP
AT 12 OR 1205.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD SOMETHING,
MR.
MAYOR?
I WOULD, MR.
CHAIRMAN, AND I THANK THE
ASSEMBLY
MEMBER FOR HER QUESTION.
AND I WOULD JUST SAY THAT YOU
SHOULD TAKE PRIDE
IN WHAT YOU'RE HELPING TO
ACCOMPLISH,
WHAT THE LEGISLATURE IS DOING IN
TERMS
OF THAT FORCING OF A SHARED RFP.
MY CITY HAS, UH, RESPONDED TO
AROUND FIVE, UH, WITH UH,
CO APPLICATION WITH OUR COUNTY
AND WITH OUR COC.
UM, I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT
INNOVATION
TO FORCE LOCAL COLLABORATION.
WE HAD PLENTY BEFORE, BUT THIS
IS REALLY
HELPING TO BRING THAT TO
FRUITION.
AND THEN I REALLY WANT TO DOUBLE
DOWN ON
WHAT SUPERVISOR HORVATH WAS JUST
SAYING.
BECAUSE OF YOUR HAP ALLOCATION,
YOU ALL ARE HELPING US TO CREATE
OVER 15,000,
NEARLY 16,000 BEDS THROUGH
THE BIG CITY MAYORS COALITION.
AND I HOPE SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE
RECEIVED
THIS REPORT IN YOUR OFFICE,
BUT THIS IS ONLY POSSIBLE
BECAUSE OF
THE FUNDING THAT YOU'RE
PROVIDING.
IS EXACTLY WAS MENTIONED.
SERVICE RESISTANT ASSUMES THAT
THERE'S A SERVICE TO PROVIDE.
AND BECAUSE OF HAP, WE HAVE
NEARLY 16,000
BEDS, 150,000
HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS SERVED IN
THE BIG CITY MAYORS AREA,
AS WELL AS 42,000 PEOPLE WHO
HAVE LEFT THE STREET
AND GONE INTO TEMPORARY OR
PERMANENT HOUSING.
UH, THIS IS POSSIBLE BECAUSE ALL
OF
YOU AND IN MY OWN CITY, YOU
KNOW,
WHEN I TOOK OVER AS MAYOR,
WE HAD ROUGHLY A THOUSAND BEDS.
UH, TODAY WE HAVE OVER 2000.
AND THE POINT IS, IS THAT IT'S
NOT JUST ADDITIONAL BEDS,
BUT IT'S THE KINDS OF BEDS.
SO WE HAVE SENIOR ONLY WOMEN
ONLY DOMESTIC VIOLENCE,
ONLY LGBTQ YOUTH SPECIFIC.
WE HAVE SAFE SLEEPING SITES,
EXPANDED SAFE PARKING LOTS AND
SAFE STORAGE.
AND ALL OF THIS IS POSSIBLE
BECAUSE
OF THE STATE INVESTMENT.
YOU'VE REALLY HELPED US TO
PROVIDE
MUCH MORE SERVICES,
AND THAT GETS US TO BEING ABLE
TO ADDRESS
THAT SERVICE RESISTANT QUESTION.
AND I LEAVE YOU WITH SORT OF TWO
OBSERVATIONS.
ONE IS WITHOUT THE STATE
FUNDING,
ALL OF THAT WOULD BE UNDONE, YOU
KNOW,
AND SO IN TERMS OF ALL OF OUR
COLLECTIVE FRUSTRATION
THAT NOT ENOUGH IS HAPPENING.
YOU CANNOT OVERLOOK WHAT IS
HAPPENING AND WHAT
WOULD NOT HAPPEN ABSENT THE
STATE FUNDING.
AND THE LAST THING WHICH I DO
THINK IS A POLICY QUESTION
THAT I KNOW ALL OF YOU ARE
GRAPPLING WITH,
IS THAT ONE OF THE METRICS THAT
I CONCERN MYSELF WITH IS NOT
JUST NUMBER OF BEDS CREATED
AND PEOPLE EXITING HOMELESSNESS,
BUT THE NUMBER OF FATALITIES
THAT
WE'RE SEEING ON OUR STREETS.
AND THAT IS LARGELY A RESULT OF
OUR BEHAVIORAL
HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE USE
DISORDER CRISIS.
AND AS YOU LOOK AT THAT ISSUE,
YOU HAVE TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF
FENTANYL,
RECOGNIZING THAT A LOT OF THE
SERVICE
RESISTANT THAT YOU'RE TALKING
ABOUT REALLY HAS TO GO TO
ADDICTION
AND MENTAL HEALTH.
YOU ALL TOOK ACTION ON
CONSERVATORSHIP REFORM,
BUT I THINK THERE'S STILL
CONSIDERABLE WORK THAT
NEEDS TO BE DONE WITH REGARD TO
THE VERY,
VERY DIFFERENT KIND OF SUBSTANCE
THAT
IS FENTANYL THAT IS ON OUR
STREETS.
WONDERFUL.
THANK YOU.
AND AND THEN ONE MORE QUESTION.
MR..
GO AHEAD IF IT'S A SHORT ONE.
OKAY.
SORRY.
SO MANY QUESTIONS.
UM.
SO WHAT?
THANK YOU FOR THAT.
AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
AND I KNOW THAT, UM, IN LA
SPECIFICALLY
THAT THERE IS ALSO
PEOPLE WITH LIVED EXPERIENCE WHO
ARE CONTRIBUTING TO THIS.
AND I THINK THOSE VOICES ARE
REALLY IMPORTANT,
AND ALSO PEOPLE WHO ARE ON THE
FRONT LINES OF THIS,
BECAUSE I KNOW A LOT OF THE
STREAMLINING
IS KIND OF CONVERSATIONS AT TOP
LEVELS,
BUT IT HAS TO BE EXPERIENCED AT
THE LOCAL LEVEL OR AT THE AT
THE,
YOU KNOW, SERVICE PROVISION
LEVEL AS WELL.
UM, AND THEN THE, THE ONE OTHER
THING I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT,
BECAUSE IT'S BEEN A HOT TOPIC
IN LOS ANGELES RECENTLY,
IS AROUND ENCAMPMENT RESOLUTION
FUNDING.
AND I, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT
TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT
WHAT IS EFFECTIVE ENCAMPMENT
RESOLUTION AND WHAT IS NOT.
AND AND WE'VE SEEN THROUGH THE
REPORT THAT, UM.
MAYBE HAS NOT OFFICIALLY COME
OUT, BUT HAS BEEN,
UH, SHARED UH, ON 4118 IN LOS
ANGELES.
IS THAT, UH, ENCAMPMENT
RESOLUTION
WITHOUT CONNECTING
IT TO HOUSING AND SERVICES IS
NOT EFFECTIVE.
AND THEY'VE FOUND THAT IN THE
4118
SWEEPS OR ENCAMPMENT
RESOLUTIONS,
0.1% HAVE GOTTEN PERMANENT
HOUSING,
7.7% HAVE, UH, GOT OR REMAINED
IN INTERIM HOUSING
AND 81% REPOPULATED THE SAME
ENCAMPMENTS.
SO PEOPLE JUST CAME BACK.
AND FROM MY OUTREACH IN OUR
COMMUNITY,
THAT'S MY EXPERIENCE.
PEOPLE WILL GO DOWN THE STREET
AND THEN THEY WILL JUST COME
BACK,
UM, YOU KNOW, IN THE NEXT WEEK
OR SO.
SO, YOU KNOW, IN THE ENCAMPMENT
RESOLUTION FUNDING,
CAN YOU TALK ABOUT HOW, UM, IS
LIKE,
WHAT IS THE FOCUS TO MAKE SURE
THAT THIS IS
EFFECTIVE AND ACTUALLY GETTING
PEOPLE OFF
THE STREETS AND INTO HOUSING AND
NOT SHIFTING
PEOPLE FROM SIDEWALK TO
SIDEWALK.
THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.
SO I WILL SAY ENCAMPMENT
RESOLUTION
IS A TERMINOLOGY THAT WE'RE
HEARING SEPARATE FROM THE
ENCAMPMENT
RESOLUTION FUND PROGRAM,
WHICH IS A GRANT, A COMPETITIVE
GRANT
THAT KELLY CURRENTLY
ADMINISTERS.
UM, WE HEAR COMMUNITIES CALLING,
YOU KNOW, UM,
SWEEPS FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT,
FROM PUBLIC WORKS, ETC..
ENCAMPMENT RESOLUTION.
I JUST WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR.
I'M SPEAKING TO THE ENCAMPMENT
RESOLUTION FUND PROGRAM.
UM, ERF ACTUALLY REQUIRES A
GRANTEE TO HAVE
A DIRECT CONNECTION TO HOUSING
FOR FOR
THE ONE SPECIFIC ENCAMPMENT IN
THEIR COMMUNITY
THAT THEY ARE LOOKING TO
RESOLVE.
THAT'S ALSO VERY IMPORTANT TO
NOTE.
ERF UH, REQUIRES A COMMUNITY
TO FOCUS THEIR INTENTIONS
FOR THESE FUNDS ON ONE SPECIFIC
ENCAMPMENT.
UH, WE ARE AWARE, YOU KNOW,
PARTICULARLY IN COMMUNITIES
LIKE THE GREATER COMMUNITY OF
LOS ANGELES,
IF YOU RESOLVE, YOU KNOW, A
PIECE OF AN ENCAMPMENT,
UH, IN SKID ROW, USING THAT AS
AN EXAMPLE,
THERE ARE STILL MANY OTHER
PERSONS WHO PERHAPS
ARE MEMBERS OF ANOTHER
ENCAMPMENT.
UM, AND SO EACH APPLICATION,
EACH PROJECT IS DIFFERENT
AND DEPENDENT UPON THE LOCALS
OF ENCAMPMENT OF FOCUS.
BUT THERE IS A REQUIREMENT FOR
THE THE GRANTEE
TO HAVE A DIRECT CONNECTION TO
HOUSING,
ULTIMATELY TO PERMANENT HOUSING.
WE HAVE BEEN AWARE,
CALLISTEGE IS AWARE THAT THERE
ARE
A FEW COMMUNITIES WHO HAVE BEEN
UH, UM, VERY, UH,
HAVE HAD SOME PUBLICATIONS IN
THE MEDIA
RECENTLY WHERE PERHAPS FUNDING
WASN'T
USED WITH THAT INTENTION AND ARE
ENGAGING WITH THOSE COMMUNITIES,
UM, ACTIVELY TO DETERMINE, YOU
KNOW,
EXACTLY WHAT HAS OCCURRED,
WHAT FUNDING WAS USED FOR,
WHAT SPECIFIC ACTIVITIES, AND
MORE IMPORTANTLY,
WHAT HAS RESULTED FOR THE
PERSONS IN THE ENCAMPMENT.
I WOULD ADD.
UM, I RECENTLY COMMENTED ALSO
ABOUT
4118 AND WAS TOLD BY CITY
LEADERS THAT IT WAS NEVER
INTENDED
AS A HOUSING PROGRAM.
AND SO, UM, AND YET, AS YOU
RIGHTLY NOTE,
IT IS SOMETHING THAT WHERE A LOT
OF DOLLARS ARE BEING SPENT.
AND SO IF WE ARE BEING MINDFUL
OF
WHERE OUR DOLLARS ARE BEST
SPENT,
MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE
INVESTING THEM IN ENCAMPMENT
RESOLUTION EFFORTS THAT RESULT
IN PEOPLE GETTING SERVICES
AND HOUSING IS WHERE I WANT TO
SEE THE DOLLARS.
SO I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU.
UM, WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL THAT LA
COUNTY WAS JUST AWARDED $50
MILLION FROM THE ERF TO EXPAND
OUR PATHWAY HOME PROGRAM.
UM, AND THIS IS FOCUSED ON AN
ENCAMPMENT
AREA IN THE HISTORICALLY
UNDER RESOURCED COMMUNITY IN
SOUTH LOS ANGELES.
AND AGAIN, OUR PATHWAY HOME
PROGRAM
IS DIFFERENT FROM PREVIOUS
EFFORTS IN THAT IT NOT ONLY
IDENTIFIES WHO IS IN,
WHO IS THERE, WHAT KIND OF
SERVICES THEY NEED,
AND WHERE THEY WILL BE HOUSED IN
THE SHORT TERM.
BUT WE ALREADY BAKE IN THE LONG
TERM SOLUTION
THAT HELPS THE THROUGHPUT KEEP
MOVING.
SO WE HAVE THAT AVAILABILITY OF
INTERIM HOUSING,
AND WE HAVE LONG TERM SOLUTIONS
FOR HOW WE KEEP PEOPLE
HOUSED SO THEY AREN'T FALLING
BACK INTO THE STREETS.
UM, IF THEY GET RELEASED FROM,
YOU KNOW,
OR IF THEY RUN OUT OF TIME IN
INTERIM HOUSING.
AND SO THAT THAT ALL IS
INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT.
BUT YOU RAISE A VERY VALUABLE
POINT
THAT IF WE'RE NOT INVESTING IN
SOMETHING THAT ACTUALLY
MEANINGFULLY
KEEPS PEOPLE OFF THE STREETS,
IF WE'RE NOT PROVIDING SERVICES
WITH THE HOUSING,
THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY
THE COORDINATED
ENTRY SYSTEM WAS CREATED.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE HAVE
BEEN CHALLENGES FROM IT,
AND AS A RESULT,
WE'VE BEEN REFORMING THAT AND
HOW
IT'S BEEN APPLIED IN LOS
ANGELES.
BUT WHEN WE LINE UP PEOPLE
THROUGH THAT SYSTEM,
WE KNOW THAT HOUSING IS MATCHED
TO SERVICES FROM THE OUTSET,
AND THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO KEEP
THAT COORDINATED.
SO PEOPLE GET THE SERVICES,
SERVICES THEY NEED TO STAY IN
THE HOUSING LONG TERM.
THANK YOU.
UM, AND JUST TO CONNECT THAT
BACK TO
THE CONVERSATION WE WERE HAVING
BEFORE,
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE
THAT ANOTHER
ITERATION THAT HAPPENED IN HAPP
FIVE IS THAT THE APPLICATION FOR
HAPP
FIVE AND THE STATUTE REQUIRES
ALL OF THESE REGIONS THAT ARE
APPLYING TO TALK ABOUT
THAT BROADER FUNDING PORTFOLIO
SO THAT THEY CAN, UH,
SAY WHEN THEY ARE SPENDING FUNDS
ON SERVICES,
THAT THEY ARE CONNECTED TO
A PERMANENT HOUSING SOLUTION.
AND SO THAT PART OF THE REASON
FOR DESCRIBING
THAT BROADER PORTFOLIO IS TO
SAY,
HERE ARE ALL OF THE FEDERAL
DOLLARS
WE HAVE AVAILABLE FOR THIS.
HERE ARE ALL THE STATE DOLLARS
WE HAVE AVAILABLE.
HERE ARE ALL THE REGIONAL
DOLLARS.
SO WHEN WE'RE TELLING YOU WE ARE
SPENDING
MONEY ON THIS STREET OUTREACH
PROGRAM,
OR WE ARE SPENDING MONEY ON THIS
SERVICES COORDINATION PROGRAM,
HERE'S HOW WE ARE MAKING THAT
CONNECTION
TO PERMANENT HOUSING SOLUTIONS.
UM, AND SO YOU MAY NOT BE USING
HAPP DOLLARS
FOR THAT PERMANENT HOUSING
PIECE,
BUT THAT ENABLES THE GRANTEES
TO BE THINKING ABOUT THAT
BROADER SCOPE SO THAT WE AREN'T
SPENDING MONEY,
UM, THROUGH THE HAP PROGRAM THAT
ISN'T MAKING
THOSE CONNECTIONS TO ITS
GRANTEES.
SO ALL OF THOSE HAP DOLLARS NEED
TO BE
MAKING THOSE GRANTEE NEED TO
SORRY,
ALL OF THOSE FUNDING USES NEED
TO
BE MAKING THAT CONNECTION BACK.
EXACTLY LIKE YOU'RE TALKING
ABOUT,
OF HOW HOW ARE YOU GOING TO TURN
THIS SERVICES
COORDINATION MOMENT INTO A
CONVERSATION
ABOUT PERMANENT HOUSING
SOLUTIONS?
AWESOME.
THANK YOU.
JUST A QUICK TIME REMINDER.
IT'S 1210.
WE HAVE A SESSION AT ONE.
SO WOULD APPRECIATE A BRIEF AND
SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU.
LET'S MOVE ON TO MR.
HART.
YEAH, I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL
THE COMMENTS
FROM THE FOLKS WHO ARE SPEAKING
TODAY.
IT SHOWS THE LEVEL OF COMMITMENT
AND COORDINATION
AND FOCUS THAT'S HAPPENING
AT THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT LEVEL
AND REALLY TECHNICAL ISSUES.
BUT IT OCCURS TO ME THAT, UM,
THERE IS A NARRATIVE THAT IS
BEING LOST
IN THE IN THE PUBLIC'S MIND
BECAUSE,
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE HAD DIFFERENT
APPROACHES
TO THIS OVER A VERY LONG PERIOD
OF TIME.
I REMEMBER GOING BACK TO 2006,
IN OUR COMMUNITY,
WE HAD A TEN YEAR PLAN TO END
HOMELESSNESS,
YOU KNOW, WHICH LOOKS NOW LIKE A
VERY NAIVE IDEA.
AND THE UCSF BENIOFF HOMELESS
HOUSING
INITIATIVE MADE THE CONNECTION
BETWEEN THE HOUSING CRISIS
AND THE HOMELESSNESS CRISIS.
AND I KNOW WE HAVE TO CONTINUE
AND PERSIST AND HAVE LOCAL,
PERMANENT,
RELIABLE LOCAL FUNDING SOURCE TO
PROVIDE THE REASONABLE RESOURCES
YOU NEED LOCAL LEVEL TO DO ALL
THE SERVICES YOU'RE TALKING
ABOUT.
BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO
CONNECT BACK TO
WHAT THE PUBLIC IS SEEING ON THE
STREETS,
WHICH IS MORE MONEY, MORE
EFFORT, YOU KNOW,
LOTS OF ACTIVITY AND INCREASING
HOMELESSNESS.
AND IF YOU COULD SPEAK TO THAT
AND HOW WE CAN COMMUNICATE, YOU
KNOW,
WHAT THIS CHALLENGE REALLY IS
AND WHAT
WE NEED TO DO TO SEE A
DIFFERENCE.
UH, ABSOLUTELY.
UM, I THINK IT'S ANOTHER PART,
IMPORTANT PART OF THE
PARTNERSHIP
BETWEEN KELLY KELLY AND HDD IS
THAT POINT.
SO, UH, WE KNOW THAT WHAT
INCREASES HOMELESSNESS
AND WHAT DRIVES HOMELESSNESS,
UH, IS WONKY TERM, BUT COST
BURDEN,
IT JUST MEANS WHEN YOU'RE PAYING
TOO HIGH
A PERCENTAGE OF YOUR TAKE HOME
PAY,
YOU'RE GOING TO BE IN A RISKY
POSITION.
THAT MEANS THAT YOU ARE GOING TO
BE SUSCEPTIBLE TO
THOSE ECONOMIC SHOCKS THAT
HAPPEN TO ALL OF US.
THE CAR BREAKDOWN, THE JOB LOSS,
ETC.
CAN START OFF A CYCLE OF
HOMELESSNESS
UNRELATED TO THIS HEARING.
THAT'S ALSO PART OF WHAT DRIVES
OUR LOWER HOMEOWNERSHIP
RATES IN CALIFORNIA, OUR HIGH
COST BURDENS.
BECAUSE WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE THAT
BUFFER,
YOU DON'T YOU CAN'T PLAN FOR
EMERGENCIES,
BUT YOU ALSO CAN'T BE SAVING UP
FOR A DOWN PAYMENT.
AND SO AFFORDABLE RENTAL HOUSING
IS EXTREMELY CRITICAL.
AND HAVING A A BIG ENOUGH SUPPLY
OF AFFORDABLE
RENTAL HOUSING IN CALIFORNIA
IS WHAT'S GOING TO BRING DOWN
THIS COST BURDENS FOR US.
AND AND TO YOUR POINT, IT CAN BE
REALLY HARD TO,
UM, UH, TO WALK AND CHEW GUM AT
THE SAME TIME.
A LITTLE BIT HERE IS WE CAN KNOW
THAT HOUSING
SUPPLY IS IS THE SOLUTION TO
HOMELESSNESS,
BUT IT CAN FEEL REALLY DISTANT,
UM, FROM THAT, THAT, UM,
WALK THROUGH YOUR TOWN THAT
YOU'RE EXPERIENCING.
AND SO WE REALLY NEED WE NEED
THESE
TO BE COORDINATED EFFORTS.
UM, SO THE EVERY, ALL 539 LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS IN CALIFORNIA, UH,
HAS TO DO A EIGHT YEAR HOUSING
PLAN
THAT WE CALL IT A HOUSING PLAN.
IT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH
HOMELESSNESS.
UM, BUT BUT THAT'S, THAT'S RUN
OUT OF MY DIVISION.
AND SO WE HAVE THE COMMITMENTS.
UM, AND FOR THE FIRST CYCLE
EVER,
WE TRACK ALL OF THOSE
COMMITMENTS
TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERY LOCAL
GOVERNMENT
IS NOT JUST MAKING A PLAN,
BUT LIVING UP TO WHAT THEY SAID
THEY WOULD
DO IN THAT PLAN, BUT WITHIN
THEIR CONTROL.
RIGHT.
BECAUSE WE KNOW THE HOUSING
MARKET ALSO HAS AN IMPACT.
BUT WHAT THAT SAYS IS EVERY 539
JURISDICTIONS IN THE STATE
ARE TAKING ACTIONS TO INCREASE
THEIR ZONING CAPACITY,
TO REMOVE CONSTRAINTS AND
BARRIERS
TO THAT HOUSING HAPPENING.
UH, TO TO BE SETTING UP, UM,
STREAMLINED APPROVALS OF HOUSING
THAT
THAT FIT WHAT THEIR PLAN LAYS
OUT.
UH, AND THAT IS GOING TO DO DO
THE WORK
ON OUR BEHALF TO GET UP HOUSING
SUPPLY.
UH, WHILE WE ARE ALSO ADDRESSING
THESE ON
THE GROUND SITUATIONS THAT ARE
HAPPENING.
AND THEN OBVIOUSLY, HCD PUTS OUT
A LOT OF FUNDING THAT, UM,
FUNDS THE CREATION OF OF
MULTIFAMILY
HOUSING THAT SERVES THE
EXTREMELY
LOW INCOME HOUSEHOLDS AND VERY
LOW INCOME HOUSEHOLDS.
SO THOSE ARE SORT OF THE WAY
THOSE
THINGS ARE ALL WORKING TOGETHER.
IS HAP WILL BE PART OF THE THE
SOLUTION.
THE HOUSING PLANNING IS GOING TO
BE ANOTHER PART OF THE SOLUTION.
AND THAT SUPPLY OF DEED
RESTRICTED, SUBSIDIZED,
AFFORDABLE IS REALLY GOING TO
COME IN.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE VERY
GRATEFUL
FOR THE THE FORTHCOMING HOMEKEY
DOLLARS THAT WILL COME FROM PROP
ONE,
UM AND OTHER SOURCES.
UM, BUT A REMINDER THAT ALL 539
OF
THOSE JURISDICTIONS ALSO HAVE
ACCESS TO THE PERMANENT LOCAL
HOUSING ALLOCATION PROGRAM.
UM, AND SO THEY IF THEY HAVE
A COMPLIANT HOUSING ELEMENT,
IF THEY DO THAT, WORK WITH US TO
TO DO THAT EIGHT YEAR PLAN,
THEY CAN COME IN AND GET THOSE
PERMANENT DOLLARS EVERY YEAR
AND APPLY FOR THEM UP TO THREE
YEARS,
UM, UP TO THREE YEARS AHEAD.
AND SO WE'RE GOING TO BE PUSHING
THAT ALL THOSE
SOLUTIONS NEED TO BE HAPPENING
TOGETHER.
UM, AND BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY
WAY IS WE
HAVE TO BE SOLVING THAT LONGER
TERM,
LONGER TERM THING, OR WE'RE
GOING TO KEEP
SEEING INCREASES IN
HOMELESSNESS.
IF WE DON'T GET COST BURDENS
DOWN,
THAT'S JUST GOING TO THAT'S
GOING TO BE OUR LIFE.
AND SO WE HAVE TO WORK ON THAT,
NOT JUST,
UM, HAVE EMERGENCY SITUATIONS,
BUT WE GOT TO MEET THE EMERGENCY
TO.
AND MARSHALL.
MARSHALL, I'M SURE,
HAS OTHER THINGS TO SAY, BUT
THANK YOU.
UH, SO JUST JUST TO ADD THAT
THAT'S
THE LONGER TERM SOLUTION, RIGHT?
IT IS SINGULAR.
IT'S HOUSING.
WE NEED MORE HOUSING.
AND THAT THAT'S A LONG TERM
INVESTMENT
IN THE SHORT TERM.
HAVING SERVED IN LOCAL
GOVERNMENT,
I UNDERSTAND THE UNIQUE
PRESSURES THAT
OUR COLLEAGUES IN THE CITIES,
COUNTIES AND COX ARE FEELING
FROM
THEIR INDIVIDUAL CONSTITUENTS.
UM, INEVITABLY THOSE FOLKS WILL
WILL FIND THEIR WAY TO CALAIS,
AND THE FRUSTRATION IS
TREMENDOUS
FOR THEM TO FIND A SMALLER,
KNOWN ENTITY WITHIN THE STATE.
AND SO SOMETHING THAT WE OFFER
OUR
JURISDICTIONAL PARTNERS IS,
IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE STATE
TO
COME AND SPEAK AT CITY COUNCILS,
AT BOARDS OF SUPERVISORS, YOU
KNOW,
FOR, UM, YOU KNOW,
COC BOARDS, ETC., SO THAT THEY,
THEY HAVE A DIRECT
CONNECTION AND UNDERSTANDING OF
THE, THE,
THE DIRECTION THAT THE STATE IS,
IS MOVING INTO AND IN SUPPORT
OF,
OF LOCAL LEADERSHIP.
WONDERFUL.
THANK YOU.
LET'S MOVE ON TO OUR BUDGET
CHAIR, MR.
JESSE GABRIEL.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR.
CHAIR.
AND I WANT TO BUILD ON WHAT MR.
HART SAID HERE, BECAUSE I THINK
THAT THERE'S
A LOT OF WISDOM TO WHAT HE SAID.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WORRY
ABOUT
A LOT IS THAT THE PUBLIC IS
LOSING
CONFIDENCE IN THE ABILITY OF
GOVERNMENT
TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM,
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'VE
DISCUSSED
WITH A LOT OF OUR PARTNERS IN
LOCAL
GOVERNMENT THAT I KNOW THAT ARE
VERY
EAGER TO MAKE PROGRESS ON IT.
BUT I, YOU KNOW, THINK ABOUT
MYSELF
AND ASSEMBLY MEMBER SHIVA.
WE HAVE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY
WHO HAVE VOTED TWICE TO TAX
THEMSELVES WITH THE CITY MEASURE
AND A COUNTY MEASURE.
THEY HAVE LITERALLY SAID TO
ELECTED OFFICIALS,
TAKE MORE OF MY MONEY AND PLEASE
GO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS
TERRIBLE
PROBLEM THAT I SEE ON THE
STREETS.
I, I CAN NO LONGER DRIVE BY THE
UNDERPASS AND TRY
TO EXPLAIN TO MY KIDS WHY THOSE
PEOPLE ARE THERE.
THIS IS BREAKING MY HEART.
IT'S IMPACTING OUR COMMUNITY.
IT'S IMPACTING PUBLIC SAFETY.
IT'S IMPACTING, YOU KNOW,
THE VISION THAT WE HAVE FOR OUR
COMMUNITY.
PLEASE, PLEASE HELP US.
AND YET, AS MR.
HART DESCRIBED, RESOURCES HAVE
BEEN INVESTED.
THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF ENERGY.
THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF, YOU KNOW,
PUBLIC PROCLAMATIONS ABOUT THIS.
BUT WE ARE WE'RE NOT SEEING THE
PROGRESS.
WE'RE NOT SEEING THE PROGRESS
THAT PEOPLE EXPECT.
AND I THINK AND I WANT TO
APPRECIATE
THE WAY THAT YOU CONNECTED, UH,
HOMELESSNESS AND HOUSING,
BECAUSE I THINK THEY ARE
INTIMATELY LINKED.
AND I WANT TO ALSO LIFT UP
SOMETHING
THAT SUPERVISOR HORVATH SAID,
WHICH I BELIEVE IS REALLY,
REALLY IMPORTANT PART OF THIS
AND SOMETHING
WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR A
WHILE,
WHICH IS HOMELESSNESS
PREVENTION, RIGHT?
WE CAN BE MOVING RECORD NUMBERS
OF PEOPLE
OFF THE STREETS AND INTO
HOUSING.
BUT IF MORE PEOPLE ARE BECOMING
HOMELESS
AT THE SAME TIME WE'RE DOING
THAT,
THE PROBLEM IS ONLY GOING TO GET
WORSE OVER TIME.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE
BEEN WRESTLING WITH IS
THAT WE HAVE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS
IN THE STATE THAT,
INTENTIONALLY OR OTHERWISE,
ARE CREATING BARRIERS TO
BUILDING NEW HOUSING.
AND SOME OF THAT IS FOLKS THAT
DON'T
WANT HOUSING IN THEIR
COMMUNITIES,
SOME OF THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE
JUST MAKING
THE PROCESS OF BUILDING HOUSING
SO BURDENSOME
AND SO TIME CONSUMING AND SO
EXPENSIVE,
THAT IS ADDING COST TO HOUSING.
IT'S DELAYING HOUSING.
AND SO WE FIND OURSELVES IN
EXPERIENCE
HERE IN THE STATE LEGISLATURE,
WHERE WE HAVE LOCALS COMING TO
US AND SAYING,
GIVE US MORE MONEY FOR THE TO
ADDRESS
THE HOMELESSNESS WE'RE SEEING ON
OUR STREETS.
AND YET AT THE SAME TIME, THEY
ARE TAKING ACTIONS
WHICH ARE EXACERBATING OUR
HOMELESSNESS CRISIS.
SO I THINK THOSE ARE THINGS
THAT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT.
AND WE HAVE WONDERFUL
JURISDICTIONS OUT THERE
THAT WANT TO DO THE RIGHT THING
AND ARE
PART OF THE SOLUTION AND DESERVE
ALL OF
THE PRAISE AND RESOURCES WE
COULD GIVE THEM.
WE HAVE OTHER JURISDICTIONS OUT
THERE THAT, FRANKLY,
ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM, AND I
THINK
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM,
THAT WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT
CERTAINLY
I'M THINKING ABOUT AND THAT
FITS INTO SOME OF THIS
ACCOUNTABILITY
THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
RIGHT.
AND AND I APPRECIATE I WANT TO
APPRECIATE THE MAYOR
WHO'S NO LONGER WITH US AND THE
SUPERVISOR,
THEIR WILLINGNESS TO HAVE THAT
CONVERSATION
ABOUT ACCOUNTABLE,
WHICH TO ME IS MAYBE THAT'S NOT
EVEN THE RIGHT WORD.
IT'S HOW DO WE GET MAXIMUM
RESULTS FOR
THE DOLLARS THAT WE'RE PUTTING
INTO THIS?
HOW DO WE FIND THE MOST, UM,
HOW DO WE FIND THE MOST
SUCCESSFUL
INTERVENTIONS AND HOW DO WE
EXPEDITE ALL OF THIS?
RIGHT.
AND THAT'S AND THAT'S A QUESTION
I HAVE FOR YOU,
BECAUSE I THINK THE PEOPLE IN MY
COMMUNITY,
THEY WANTED TO SEE RESULTS YEARS
AGO,
THEY WANTED TO SEE RESULTS
YESTERDAY.
AND THEY'RE GETTING VERY,
VERY FRUSTRATED BY THE LACK OF
PROGRESS THEY SEE AROUND THIS.
SO HOW DO WE HOW DO WE HOW DO WE
GET THIS TO MOVE MORE QUICKLY?
UM, HOW DO WE ENSURE THAT WE'RE
GETTING BETTER ACCOUNTABILITY.
AS YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN A BIG
PROPONENT
OF OF USING DATA TO TRACK THIS.
I THINK OUR MOST SOPHISTICATED
ENTERPRISES IN
THE WORLD TODAY ARE USING DATA
AND HARNESSING
THE POWER OF DATA TO UNDERSTAND
WHAT'S
MOVING THE NEEDLE AND WHAT'S
NOT.
SO TELL ME, TALK TO ME A LITTLE
BIT ABOUT
HOW WE MAKE THIS GO MORE
QUICKLY.
SO WITH REGARDS TO DATA,
HDIS IS OUR IS OUR STATE WIDE
WAREHOUSE
WHICH COLLECTS INFORMATION FROM
HMMIS AT THE CFC LEVEL.
SO WE HAVE 44 ENTITIES THAT ARE
REPORTING INTO OUR
STATE WIDE SYSTEM THAT WAS
CREATED IN 2021.
AND HAP BEGAN AS, AS YOU ALL ARE
AWARE, IN 2019.
SO THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT GAP
IN OUR ABILITY
TO REPORT IN A SOPHISTICATED,
UNIFIED MANNER.
UM, HDIS.
ALTHOUGH STILL RELATIVELY NEW,
IT HAS IT HAS TREMENDOUS POWER
AND POTENTIAL.
WE ARE WORKING NOW ACTUALLY
WITH WITH OUR SISTER AGENCY
OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES
ON THE FIRST OF ITS KIND,
DATA SHARING AGREEMENTS, UM, YOU
KNOW,
TALKING ABOUT ACCOUNTABILITY AND
STREAMLINING
AND BREAKING DOWN SILOS, ETC.
DATA IS A HUGE IS A HUGE SILO IN
AND OF ITSELF.
FOR EACH ONE OF OUR COUNCIL
MEMBER DEPARTMENTS,
WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY WITH
HDIS TO BEGIN INCORPORATING
AND SHARING DATA INTO SYSTEMS
THAT ARE DATA
SYSTEMS THAT ARE OVERSEEN BY
PUBLIC HEALTH,
UH, BY DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL
SERVICES,
WHO ARE ALL INVESTORS AS AS YOU
ALL ARE AWARE,
IN HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS
SOLUTIONS.
UM, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE
VERY EXCITED
TO TO MOVE KALISH INTO THE SPACE
OF,
IN THIS IN THIS NEXT FISCAL
YEAR.
YOU KNOW, I'LL JUST SAY, I THINK
YOU
PROBABLY KNOW THIS, BUT I, YOU
KNOW,
THE GOVERNOR SIGNED INTO LAW A
BILL I WROTE,
YOU KNOW, THREE YEARS AGO AROUND
THIS.
RIGHT.
AND THIS IS BACK WHEN WE WERE
ALL STILL WEARING MASKS.
AND I JUST WHAT I WANT TO
EXPRESS IS
THIS SENSE OF URGENCY TO, YOU
KNOW,
TO, TO TO REALLY HARNESS
THE POWER OF THAT DATA AND LET,
LET US KNOW HOW WE MAKE THAT
HAPPEN,
BECAUSE THAT'S GOT TO HAPPEN
IMMEDIATELY.
RIGHT?
WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO
MAKE
THE KIND OF INTERVENTIONS WE
WANT
AND DELIVER THE RESULTS THAT WE
WANT IF WE'RE NOT DOING THAT.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S
COMPLICATED AND THERE'S
A LOT OF TECHNICAL BARRIERS AND
OTHERWISE,
BUT I JUST WANT YOU TO FEEL THE
SENSE
OF URGENCY THAT WE'RE ALL
FEELING.
I APPRECIATE THAT IF I CAN JUST
END BY SAYING
BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO KIRKBY.
I WAS A DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC
HEALTH FOR
THE ENTIRETY OF THE COVID 19
PANDEMIC.
URGENCY IS IS IS MY MIDDLE NAME
AT THIS POINT.
AND SO WHEN I, WHEN I ASSUMED
THIS POSITION,
MY MY REQUEST WAS THAT WE TREAT
THIS AS,
AS A, AS A, AS OUR NEXT PUBLIC
HEALTH CRISIS.
UH, ECHO, ECHO, ALL OF THAT.
AND I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, JUST
EMPHASIZING.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WHAT YOU
SAID.
AND PLEASE KNOW THAT THAT'S YOU
AND I ARE IN AGREEMENT THAT, UM,
SOMETHING YOU'LL SEE IN THE FIVE
NOFA THAT I THINK
WAS A CHANGE WAS AROUND EXACTLY
THIS OF,
UM, SEE, UH, SAYING TO THE
GRANTEES,
WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT,
AT WHAT THAT BROADER SPENDING
LOOKS LIKE.
UM, BUT KNOW THAT YOU HAVE A LOT
WITHIN YOUR CONTROL HERE.
UM, JURISDICTIONS NEED TO BE
PUTTING
OUT SURPLUS LAND, UM, UH,
THROUGH SURPLUS LAND ACT IN A
WAY THAT
HELPS PRODUCE AFFORDABLE
HOUSING.
THAT'S BEEN A HUGE, UM, UH,
THAT WE'VE ONLY BEEN STEWARDS
OF THAT LAW SINCE 2020.
AND, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE NEARING
20,000
HOMES THAT HAVE BEEN CREATED
THROUGH THAT STRATEGY.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT A
JURISDICTION CAN DO THROUGH
THROUGH THEIR CONTROL IS PUT OUT
SURPLUS LAND.
THEY CAN, UH, WORK TO BECOME
A PRO HOUSING JURISDICTION
WHERE THEY'RE ADOPTING POLICIES
THAT ARE GOING TO THAT,
THAT ARE, THAT ARE BACKED BY
EVIDENCE TO SHOW THEY'RE
GOING TO LEAD TO EXTRA, EXTRA
HOUSING SUPPLY.
THEY CAN BE USING THEIR PL
DOLLAR,
THEIR PERMANENT LOCAL HOUSING
ALLOCATION DOLLARS
IN A WAY THAT'S GOING TO CREATE
MORE HOUSING.
UH, AND THEN UH, BUT BUT THOSE
THOSE ARE SIGNALS RIGHT NOW.
BUT I THINK PART OF WHAT,
WHAT THE BENEFIT IS SORT OF
BRINGING
THIS ALL IN ONE SHOP IS ALL
THOSE
HOUSING PLAN COMMITMENTS,
THE STUFF THAT I'M TALKING
ABOUT, WE CAN, UH,
I LIKE TO I BELIEVE THAT ALL OF
OUR GRANTEES
WANT TO DO THE RIGHT THING,
OF COURSE, BUT IT'S SOMETIMES,
EVEN THOUGH HOUSING AND
HOMELESSNESS
ARE INEXTRICABLY LINKED,
THEY ARE SILOED AS POLICY AREAS.
AND SO PART OF WHAT WE ARE DOING
HERE IS MODELING
THE WAY FOR OUR LOCALS TO SAY
HOUSING IS HOMELESSNESS.
WE ARE WORKING TOGETHER.
THESE ARE WE ARE GOING TO BE
TALKING
TO YOU ABOUT THINGS YOU PUT IN
YOUR
HOUSING ELEMENT BEFORE WE'RE
GIVING AS
PART OF THE PROCESS OF GIVING
YOU
HOMELESSNESS FUNDING LIKE THESE
THINGS
ARE CONNECTED AND YOU NEED TO
WE'RE
MAKING THOSE CONNECTIONS AND YOU
NEED
TO BE MAKING THOSE CONNECTIONS.
UM, SO WHEN YOU SAY, YOU KNOW,
OH,
WE'RE ALMOST OUT OF HAP FUNDS,
WE KNOW HOW MUCH YOU HAVE LEFT
IN PLA DOLLARS.
RIGHT?
LIKE THOSE ARE CONVERSATIONS
AND CONNECTIONS WE CAN BE
MAKING.
AND IT'S NOT TO BE A JERK.
IT'S NOT TO BE MEAN.
IT'S IT'S TO SAY, HEY, WE WE ALL
NEED
TO BE SWIMMING IN THE SAME
DIRECTION.
SO LIKE, OKAY, YOU NEED MORE
FUNDING.
LOOK AT THIS OTHER POT THAT YOU
HAVE ACCESS TO OVER HERE.
AND OH, TO GET USE THAT POT YOU
NEED TO
GET INTO HOUSING ELEMENT
COMPLIANCE.
LET'S WORK WITH YOU.
BECAUSE GETTING INTO HOUSING
ELEMENT COMPLIANCE
IS ALSO A REALLY IMPORTANT
STRATEGY TO GET YOUR
HOMELESSNESS
NUMBERS TO PREVENT HOMELESSNESS,
AND TO GET YOUR HOMELESSNESS
NUMBERS IN A BETTER
PLACE THAN WHEREVER THEY ARE
TODAY.
SO, SO THANK YOU FOR THINKING
THAT WAY.
AND THE SUPPORT OF THE
LEGISLATURE
MEANS AN ENORMOUS
AMOUNT IN HELPING HELPING US
HAVE THAT CONVERSATION,
UH, WITH WITH OUR LOCALS AND
REGIONS AS WELL.
YEAH, I APPRECIATE THAT.
AND I THERE'S A LOT MORE THAT I
WANT
TO SAY ON A LOT OF SUBJECTS,
BUT I WANT TO DEFER BECAUSE
I KNOW WE HAVE A LONG LIST OF
FOLKS WHO WANT TO JUMP IN IN
TIME OF SHORT, BUT I, UM,
BUT I WOULD JUST SAY AND I THINK
IT'S A CONVERSATION
MANY OF US ON THIS DAIS HAVE HAD
ABOUT THE REAL,
FRANK CONVERSATIONS WE NEED TO
HAVE
WITH SOME OF OUR LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS.
AND I THINK THOSE ARE IMPORTANT
CONVERSATIONS,
AND I APPRECIATE THAT, UH,
FROM THE ADMINISTRATION, THAT
BEING
COMMUNICATED IN A VERY DIRECT
WAY,
AND CERTAINLY THOSE OF US IN
THE LEGISLATURE THAT ARE HAVING
CONVERSATIONS WITH LOCAL
JURISDICTIONS
THAT WANT RESOURCES,
WE NEED TO HAVE THOSE
CONVERSATIONS
IN AN EQUALLY FRANK WAY,
BECAUSE IT'S NOT FAIR TO COME TO
US
AND SAY WE NEED MONEY TO TO DEAL
WITH
HOMELESSNESS AND THEN TO BE
TAKING
A BUNCH OF ACTIONS LOCALLY ON
ISSUES THAT ARE WITHIN YOUR
CONTROL
AND WHERE YOU'RE ASKING FOR THE
STATE
TO BE HANDS OFF THAT ARE
EXACERBATING
OUR HOMELESSNESS CRISIS.
AND I THINK WE NEED TO START
CONNECTING
THOSE IN REALLY POWERFUL WAYS.
SO THANK YOU.
UH, THANK YOU, MR.
CHAIR.
UH, ABSOLUTELY.
SPEED, EFFICIENCY, COORDINATION
AND RESPONSIBILITY
SHOULD NOT BE INDEPENDENT
OF ONE ANOTHER WHEN WE'RE
TACKLING THIS ISSUE,
SPECIFICALLY THIS ISSUE.
SO I THINK OUR EXPECTATION AS
A WHOLE, AS AN ASSEMBLY,
IS TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE
COORDINATED IN THAT FASHION,
MOVING AHEAD TO GET THINGS DONE.
LET'S MOVE ON TO MR..
&GT;&GT; THANK YOU, MR.
CHAIR.
I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU BEING
HERE.
I APPRECIATE CHAIR HORVATH.
I KNOW MAYOR GLORIA HAD TO RUN.
I APPRECIATE EMILY COHEN FROM
OUR OUR
GREAT CITY FOR SPENDING TIME
WITH US.
UM, YOU KNOW, THIS, TO ME,
IS A STILL AN INCREDIBLY
CRITICAL,
CRITICAL PROGRAM.
I KNOW IT'S NOT THE SILVER
BULLET,
BUT IT'S DEFINITELY A PIECE OF
THE PUZZLE.
I DID WANT TO JUST ASK THE
ADMINISTRATION
A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
JUST LOOKING AT THE, UM.
THE FLOW CHART YOU PROVIDED US.
NOW, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, HAP IS
A HAP IS A PROGRAM.
THAT'S THE GRANT.
THE GRANT FUNDING IS ALLOCATED
BY FORMULA.
IS THAT CORRECT?
THAT'S CORRECT.
IT'S DRIVEN BY THE THE POINT IN
TIME COUNT NUMBERS.
RIGHT.
SO I WOULD JUST LOOKING AT YOUR
CHART REGARDING
HAP THREE HAP FOR UM IN TERMS OF
DISBURSEMENTS,
BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, ROUND ONE
AND TWO,
IT SAYS THAT INITIAL
DISBURSEMENTS
WERE DONE IN WINTER,
SPRING 22 UH DISBURSEMENTS WERE
DONE WINTER SPRING 23.
CAN YOU GIVE ME THE AMOUNTS AND
THE DATES?
APPROXIMATE.
I DON'T NEED THE EXACT.
GIVE ME A MONTH.
SPECIFICALLY FOR FOR HARP THREE.
AND FOUR.
OKAY, SO SPECIFICALLY FOR HARP
THREE,
UM, WHAT WAS ALLOCATED,
OF COURSE, CITIES 336 MILLION
COUNTIES, 224 MILLION.
COX 240 I.
KNOW WHAT THE FORMULA DOES.
WHEN WAS THE MONEY GIVEN TO THE
COUNTIES?
APOLOGIES FOR HARP.
THREE.
I KNOW WHAT WE APPROPRIATED.
YEAH, I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT
AMOUNTS AS AS YOU INDICATED,
THE CHART THAT WAS INCLUDED IN
THE MATERIALS,
IT WOULD HAVE BEEN WINTER SPRING
OF 2022.
AND WHAT.
DOES INITIAL MEAN, 20%, 50.
50%.
SO WHERE'S THE OTHER 50%?
IT'S HELD UNTIL THEY'VE THEY'VE
MET THEIR
OBLIGATION AND EXPENDITURE
REQUIREMENTS.
HARP FOR IS IS UH IS THE ONLY UH
I BELIEVE IS IS THE ONLY ONE
THAT
WE STILL HAVE 50% REMAINING FOR
THE MAJORITY OF APPLICANTS,
THERE HAVE ONLY BEEN TWO
REQUESTS
THAT HAVE BEEN, UH,
WHERE THE THE GRANTEE HAS MET
THEIR THEIR REQUIREMENTS
FOR EXPENDITURE AND OBLIGATION.
SO 50%.
SO I'LL ALL OF ROUND THREE,
WHICH WAS ALLOCATED IN JUNE OF
21 IS ALL SPENT.
BUT HALF OF ROUND FOUR HAS NOT
BEEN ALLOCATED
WHICH WAS APPROPRIATED IN JUNE
OF 22.
I WILL SAY, UH, JUST A QUICK
POINT OF CLARIFICATION.
UM, HARP THREE HAS BEEN
OBLIGATED.
THERE WAS AN OBLIGATION
DEADLINE.
THOSE OBLIGATIONS HAVE BEEN
MADE.
EXPENDITURES IS A SEPARATE
CATEGORY
AND A SEPARATE REQUIREMENT.
SO I'M SORRY I'M CAN YOU.
SURE.
SO THAT AGAIN OBLIGATED MEANS WE
INTEND TO GIVE
YOU THE MONEY OR WE'VE GIVEN
THEM THE MONEY.
WE'VE WE'VE GIVEN GRANTEES THE
MONEY.
UH, HARP FOUR HAS A REQUIREMENT
THAT, UH,
HAS AN EXPENDITURE REQUIREMENT
AND AN OBLIGATION.
REQUIREMENT.
OBLIGATION MEANS THAT THE
GRANTEE MUST
CERTIFY THAT THEY HAVE CONTRACTS
IN PLACE OR RFPS IN PLACE FOR
A SPECIFIC ELIGIBLE USE
CATEGORY.
EXPENDITURE OF COURSES IS
DOLLARS
THAT HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN SPENT.
AND IS IT BECAUSE YOU'RE
CONCERNED
ABOUT THEM NOT SPENDING THE
MONEY?
THIS WAS PART OF THE EVOLUTION
OF HARP.
INITIALLY, ALL OF THE MONEY WAS
GIVEN UP FRONT.
WE EMBEDDED ADDITIONAL METRICS,
ADDITIONAL EXPECTATIONS OVER
THE LIFETIME OF THE PROGRAM.
I GUESS I'M JUST GOING BACK TO,
YOU KNOW,
CHAIRS POINTS ABOUT
STREAMLINING.
I'M CONCERNED THAT SOMETHING
THAT
WAS APPROPRIATED IN JUNE OF 22,
HALF OF IT HASN'T BEEN
APPROPRIATED.
SO ALL OF ALL OF HARP THREE IS
IN POSSESSION.
THIS IS THIS IS HARP FOR HARP
FOUR IS 2223.
SO I THINK I THINK ANOTHER WAY
TO
SAY IT IS WE SHARE THAT CONCERN.
AND I THINK THE LEGISLATURE
SHARED THAT
CONCERN IN CHANGING THE PROGRAM.
SO NOW ANY TIME A REGION A
GRANTEE CAN SHOW
THAT THEY HAVE OBLIGATED THOSE
FUNDS,
THAT THEY HAVE A PLAN FOR THOSE
FUNDS,
UM, AND THAT THEY'VE SPENT SOME
OF WHAT WE GIVEN THEM ALREADY,
THEN THEY CAN COME GET MORE
MONEY.
BUT WHAT'S HAPPENED WAS WE WERE
SEEING
FOLKS NOT BE SPENDING MONEY.
AND SO NOW WE ARE SAYING, SHOW
US THAT YOU'VE
SPENT THE MONEY AND WE'LL GIVE
YOU MORE.
UM, BUT YOU YOU NEED TO SHOW US
YOU'VE SPENT
THE MONEY BEFORE YOU CAN GET
MORE.
GOT IT.
SO.
SO, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THAT
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF METRICS
THAT WERE PART OF HARP'S THREE,
FOUR AND FIVE.
UM, AND ANNUAL REPORTS WERE DUE
FOR HARP THREE IN, YOU KNOW,
AT THE END OF THE YEAR IN 22,
23,
AS WELL AS HARP FOUR AND 23.
UH, BUT I DON'T SEE AND I
APPRECIATE
THIS NICE FLOW CHART.
YOU DID.
WHAT I DON'T SEE IS ANY OF THE
RESULTS OF
THAT OF THOSE METRICS IN THE
WRITE UP.
SO WHAT DO WE HAVE?
BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE PUBLIC
WANTS TO KNOW IS
WHAT'S WHAT'S WHAT'S THE MONEY
BEEN SPENT ON?
SURE.
AND SO, KELLY.
AND HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE AND
HOW LONG IS
IT TAKING FOR THE MONEY TO BE
SPENT?
SURE.
KELLY IS WORKING ON FINALIZING
ITS HALF ANNUAL REPORT,
WHICH WILL BE FOR FOR ROUNDS ONE
THROUGH FOUR.
UM, AND HOPE TO HAVE THAT
PUBLISHED
IN SHORT ORDER, BUT.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY.
YOU'RE COMING TO BUDGET
COMMITTEE
AND THERE'S NO NUMBERS.
THERE'S NO.
HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE WE HELPED?
HOW MANY PEOPLE OFF THE STREET?
HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE PERMANENTLY
HOUSED?
THIS IS A PROGRAM, AS YOU HAVE
SAID,
WHICH STARTED IN 2018 UNDER HEAP
AND NOW WE HAVE UNDER 2019.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK
IT'S
VALUABLE TO TO BE THINKING
ABOUT THERE IS IN THE BEGINNING
OF THIS PROGRAM,
THOSE OUTCOMES WERE ALL PROVIDED
BY THE GRANTEES.
SO THEY AND THAT THERE WAS A
SHIFT TO WANTING
MORE DATA INTEGRITY THROUGH THE
GIS SYSTEM.
AND SO WE ARE IN THE FIRST YEAR
WHERE THAT
DATA IS IS GOING TO BE
AVAILABLE.
THIS SYSTEM IS THREE YEARS OLD.
SO YOU'RE TELLING ME YOU DON'T
HAVE
ANY DATA FROM THIS IS GOING.
TO BE THE FIRST YEAR WHERE WE'LL
BE ABLE TO TO HAVE THAT DATA.
UM, SO WHY HAS IT.
TAKEN THREE YEARS TO GET DATA?
THE SYSTEM WAS IMPLEMENTED IN
2021.
SO HIS BEGAN IN 2021.
IT WASN'T FULLY IMPLEMENTED
UNTIL 2022.
AND THAT'S STILL TWO YEARS AGO.
SO DO WE HAVE ANYTHING FROM
2022?
WERE AGAIN, APOLOGIES.
WHY IS IT TAKING SO LONG?
I MEAN, YOU'RE THE ONE THAT SAID
YOU'RE URGENT.
I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE MY SENSE OF
URGENCY IS
DIFFERENT FROM YOUR SENSE OF
URGENCY.
WE'RE WORKING EXPEDITIOUSLY.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN, THOUGH?
WE'RE VERY SHORT ORDER.
WE'LL HAVE THE WHAT IS SHORT
ORDER MEAN?
WE'RE WORKING IN THE NEXT
SEVERAL WEEKS TO
HAVE A HAPPIER ANNUAL REPORT
PRODUCED.
SO WHY?
I MEAN, YOU'RE YOU'RE COMING TO
HEARING TODAY
AND YOU HAVE YOU CAN'T TELL US
HOW MANY.
YOU KNOW, WE SPENT BILLIONS OF
DOLLARS
AND YOU CAN'T TELL US AT ALL.
HOW MANY PEOPLE WE'VE HELPED.
APOLOGIES.
I DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION
IN FRONT OF ME TO SHARE.
YOU HAVE IT IN YOUR OFFICE.
AGAIN.
THERE WERE.
WE'RE WORKING THROUGH DATA
QUALITY ISSUES
IN ORDER TO FINALIZE THE REPORT.
SO WHAT'S THE REPORT GOING TO
TELL US?
IT WILL GIVE NUMBERS OF PERSONS
SERVED,
THE OUTCOMES OF THOSE SERVICES,
THE TYPES OF HOUSING THAT FOLKS
HAVE EXITED INTO,
THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THE PERSONS
WHO
HAVE BEEN SERVED ACROSS HAP.
OKAY.
BUT YOUR AGENCIES HAVE BEEN
GETTING REPORTS
EVERY YEAR FOR THE LAST COUPLE
OF YEARS.
SO MOST OF WHAT THIS IS, AND
THIS IS ABOUT
THE EVOLUTION OF THE PROGRAM,
RIGHT.
AND THAT IN THE BEGINNING,
THE GRANTEES WERE NOT ASKED FOR
THE KIND
OF INFORMATION THAT EXECUTIVE
OFFICER
MARSHALL IS SPEAKING ABOUT.
SO MOST OF WHAT GRANTEES WERE
ASKED FOR
IN THE EARLY YEARS OF THIS
PROGRAM
WERE HOW MUCH HAVE YOU
OBLIGATED,
HOW MUCH HAVE YOU EXPENDED?
AND AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S
SOMETHING TO BE PROUD OF.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S SOMETHING
THAT WE FEEL GOOD ABOUT.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S SOMETHING
THAT WE ACCEPT.
BUT WE ARE IN THE FIRST PHASES
OF, OF,
OF A REAL CULTURE CHANGE WITH
THE GRANTEES
IN THESE PROGRAMS TO ACTUALLY
SHOW US
WHAT THEY HAVE DONE WITH THAT
MONEY.
AND, AND, AND THAT AND THE GIS
IS A PIECE OF THAT.
UM, BUT EVEN BEING ABLE TO TALK
ABOUT WHAT YOU SPENT THIS
MONEY ON IS A CHANGE FOR
THE GRANTEES OF THIS PROGRAM.
AND SO THAT THAT IS THAT IS A
SHIFT.
AND IN THE FIRST YEAR OF,
OF THE REPORTING OF MOST OF THE
GRANTEES EXPRESSED
THAT THEY NEEDED A LOT MORE
ASSISTANCE
IN PROVIDING US THAT
INFORMATION.
SO WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
WHAT
HAPPENED IN THOSE TWO YEARS,
A LOT OF THAT IS GRANTEES USING
A DATA
SYSTEM THEY'VE NEVER USED
BEFORE,
GETTING USED TO IT, GETTING
SUBSTANTIAL
TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE,
US GETTING BACK BAD DATA,
NEEDING TO GO HAVE FURTHER
CONVERSATIONS AND THEN NEEDING
TO GO WORK
ON CLEANING UP THAT DATA AND
GETTING
IT TO A PLACE WHERE WHERE IT
WAS,
IT WAS MORE SENSICAL.
AND SO WE ARE MOVING TOWARD THAT
DIRECTION.
AND AND THAT IS A BIG PIECE OF
WHERE I THINK WE
WANT TO BE MOVING WITH THIS
PROGRAM ALTOGETHER.
SO ONCE WE HAVE THIS REPORT,
HOW HOW OFTEN IS THAT DATA GOING
TO BE REFRESHED?
ARE WE GOING TO HAVE REAL TIME
DATA?
ARE WE GOING TO HAVE LIKE,
CAN I GO ON THE WEBSITE AND BE
LIKE,
CAN THE PUBLIC GO ON THE
WEBSITE?
CAN CAN THE MEDIA GO ON THE
WEBSITE AND SAY, HEY,
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A TRACKER OR
SOMETHING,
AND IT'S GOING TO BE BY COUNTY,
BY JURISDICTION,
BY COC, BY CITY.
AND SO WE ARE WORKING NOW TO,
UM, FULLY IMPLEMENT AB 977,
EACH ONE OF OUR COUNCIL MEMBER
DEPARTMENTS AND AGENCIES WHO
HAVE FUNDING IN THIS SPACE HAVE
THEIR OWN UNIQUE DASHBOARD.
THAT DASHBOARD IS NOT THAT
DASHBOARD IS NOT PUBLIC.
WE ARE WORKING TO TO DE-IDENTIFY
THE DATA THAT EXISTS AND MAKES
IT MAKES UP THOSE DASHBOARDS
SO THAT IT CAN BE PUBLIC.
OKAY, GREAT.
SO WHEN IS THAT GOING TO HAPPEN?
WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS THAT FOR
THE END OF NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
END OF NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
SO WE'RE TALKING I'M SORRY, I'M
JUST JUNE OF 25.
I BELIEVE IT'S IT'S WE'RE
WORKING JUNE.
OF 25.
FOR FOR PUBLIC FACING DASHBOARDS
AS
AS WE'RE INTENDING FOR AB 977.
HOW ABOUT A LEGISLATIVE FACING
REPORT.
HOW ABOUT THAT.
THERE'S A REQUIREMENT FOR AN
ANNUAL HAP REPORT OKAY.
BUT BUT DO YOU SEE WHAT YOU SAY.
YOU SAY YOU'RE COMING HERE
STREAMLINING.
SO HOW LONG IS IT GOING TO TAKE
FOR
THE MONEY TO GET OUT THE DOOR IN
YOUR MIND?
WHAT WOULD BE A GOOD AMOUNT OF
TIME?
IN TERMS OF WHEN THE GRANTEES
ARE GIVEN THAT.
THIS MONEY IS ALLOCATED BY
FORMULA,
MEANING YOU DON'T HAVE TO,
IT JUST GOES RIGHT BY FORMULA.
&GT;&GT; SO.
SO WHAT'S A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF
TIME?
I THINK OUR HOPE IS THAT
GRANTEES ARE SHOWING
REAL PROGRESS ON OBLIGATION
EXPENDITURE
WITHIN THE FIRST SIX MONTHS OF
RECEIVING
THEIR THEIR ALLOCATIONS.
RIGHT.
AND WHAT CHANGED HERE WAS IN
ORDER TO SORT
OF PUT PRESSURE ON THAT TO
HAPPEN,
UM, ARE THESE THESE TRANCHES,
RIGHT, SO THAT YOU CAN'T GET
FURTHER DISBURSEMENT
UNTIL YOU'VE SHOWN THAT INITIAL
PROGRESS?
I'M ASSUMING OTHER JURISDICTIONS
ARE ARE ARE SHOWING PROGRESS,
AND I'M GOING TO GO TO THE
COUNTIES IN ONE SECOND.
BUT, YOU KNOW, SO WILL THEY BE
GETTING THEIR MONEY IN JULY.
SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE HAP
FOR DISBURSEMENTS.
ABSOLUTELY.
WHENEVER THEY I'M.
TALKING LIKE IF WE REAPPROPRIATE
HAP THIS YEAR HAP SIX.
YEAH.
RIGHT.
WE VOTE ON IT IN JUNE OF THIS
YEAR.
HOW LONG IS IT GOING TO TAKE
TO GET HAP SIX OUT THE DOOR,
ESPECIALLY TO THE COUNTIES THAT
ARE READY TO ROLL?
THE DISBURSEMENTS HAVE HAPPENED
VERY QUICKLY.
AND SO LIKE THERE HAS BEEN
A LAG IN THE QUICKLY MEAN, UH,
I THINK WITHIN 90 DAYS IS
THE MAX THAT IT'S EVER TAKEN.
SO 90 DAYS IS THE MAX THAT
THE DISBURSEMENTS EVER TAKEN.
UH, THE I THINK YOU MAY BE
REFERENCING
SOME FOLKS WHO WANTED TO REPORT
EARLY ON THEIR OBLIGATION
EXPENDITURE
SO THEY COULD REQUEST THOSE,
THOSE SECOND 50% DISBURSEMENTS
EARLY.
AND AND EXECUTIVE OFFICER
MARSHALL IS HAS.
AROUND.
90 DAYS.
YEAH.
IF IF THE COUNTY IS READY TO
ROLL
YOUR HOLDING BACK MONEY FOR
THE COUNTIES THAT AREN'T
SPENDING
MONEY OR THAT'S CITIES OR COX.
RIGHT.
YOU GOT IT.
THAT'S THAT'S.
EXACTLY IT.
RIGHT.
SO 90 DAYS FOR THOSE THAT ARE
READY.
WHEN YOU'RE READY COME TELL US
IT'LL BE 90 DAYS.
AND WE'RE GOING TO GET HOPEFULLY
SOME USER FRIENDLY REPORT
WITH ALL THE DATA OF ROUNDS ONE
THROUGH FOUR CORRECT IN.
WHEN?
IN A FEW SHORT WEEKS, IN.
A FEW SHORT WEEKS.
SO BEFORE WE VOTE ON THE BUDGET.
I CAN'T SAY WITH WITH A DEFINITE
DATE, I APOLOGIZE.
HOW CAN YOU EXPECT US TO VOTE ON
SOMETHING IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY?
DATA, EVEN THOUGH I'M AGAIN, LET
ME REITERATE,
I MEAN, I'M A BIG SUPPORTER OF
HAPP.
I KNOW HOW CRITICAL IT IS, BUT.
PUTS US IN A VERY TOUGH
POSITION.
WHAT YOU GOT TO DO IS YOU HAVE
YOU SHOULD
WALK THROUGH THE SUPERMARKET
WITH ONE OF US ON A SUNDAY, THEN
YOU CAN REALLY.
RIGHT, SUPERVISOR HORVATH LIKE
COME OR
LET'S HIT THE FARMERS MARKET
TOGETHER.
YOU WANT TO.
YOU WANT TO HEAR URGENCY.
THAT'S HOW YOU HEAR URGENCY.
SO I DON'T GET HOW A SYSTEM THAT
STARTED IN 22.
21.
I'M SORRY.
AND WE HAVE NO DATA.
I'M SURE.
I MEAN, LOOK, I KNOW THIS EASIER
IS EASIER THAN THE GOVERNOR.
I'M SURE.
THE GOVERNOR IS NOT VERY HAPPY
ABOUT THAT EITHER.
AND IT'S GOING TO BE A
PARTNERSHIP, RIGHT?
IT'S GOING TO BE A PARTNERSHIP
BETWEEN US WORKING
WITH GRANTEES TO PROVIDE US THAT
DATA.
IT'S GOING TO BE US PUTTING OUT
THAT DATA.
UM, ALL ALL WE CAN COMMIT TO IS,
AS WE WORK THROUGH
THESE DATA QUALITY ISSUES WITH
THE GRANTEES,
UH, AND ARE ABLE TO PUT STUFF
OUT ONCE,
ONCE, ONCE WE ARE DOING THAT, IT
WILL BE REGULAR,
IT WILL BE TRANSPARENT, IT WILL
BE REAL TIME.
IT WILL BE ONGOING.
UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, UH,
FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE
FAMILIAR
WITH THE HOUSING ELEMENT,
ANNUAL PROGRESS REPORTS.
THE FIRST TIME THAT WE MADE THAT
DATA TRANSPARENT,
WE GOT, UH,
MORE CALLS THAN I CAN TELL YOU
OF
PEOPLE SAYING MY DATA IS WRONG,
BECAUSE WHEN WE MAKE DATA
PUBLIC, UH,
PEOPLE WILL SEE WHAT'S WRONG
WITH IT.
AND SO WE'RE WE ARE IN THAT
PHASE
AND IT'S A NEW DATA SET,
AND IT'S A NEW REPORTING
STRUCTURE
FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
SO THERE ARE DATA QUALITY ISSUES
THAT WE NEED TO WORK THROUGH.
AND THAT'S THAT'S UNFORTUNATE.
AND AND ALL YOU CAN HAVE IS OUR
COMMITMENT THAT WE'RE WORKING.
WE'RE WORKING THROUGH IT.
WE ARE GOING TO WE ARE GOING TO
HAVE THE FIRST
THE FIRST ITERATION OF RELEASING
THAT DATA.
UM, VERY SOON.
THERE ARE PIECES OF THAT DATA
THAT ARE FINANCIAL
THAT CAN BE RELEASED EVEN
SOONER.
UM, BUT BUT THIS IS GOING TO
BE THE WAY THIS IS GOING TO.
BE THE FUTURE.
AND WE GET IT'S DIFFICULT THE
FIRST TIME.
BUT YOU GOT TO YOU GOT TO HEAR
WHAT YOU
GOT TO HEAR WHAT WE'RE SAYING,
WHICH.
IS IT'S THIS IS.
LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT IT
SOUNDS
LIKE AN EXCUSE, I UNDERSTAND.
NO, I THREE, THREE YEARS I
AGREE.
YOU KNOW, ONE YEAR WOULD HAVE
SOUND LIKE AN EXCUSE.
THREE YEARS SOUNDS LIKE I DON'T
EVEN WANT TO USE THE WORD,
BUT, YOU KNOW SOUNDS LIKE A HUGE
PROBLEM.
AND I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING
YOU'RE DOING ON, YOU KNOW,
SURPLUS LANDS ON, UM, YOU KNOW,
ALL ALL OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE,
THE MAKING SURE THAT THE, UM,
THE RINA REPORTS ARE UP TO DATE
AND ALL THE ENFORCEMENT,
I THINK, IS MAKING A HUGE, HUGE
DIFFERENCE.
I DID WANT TO GO TO CHAIR
HORVATH
AND THEN TO EMILY COHEN.
AND JUST FROM FROM YOUR END.
RIGHT.
WHEN YOU WHEN YOU GET THE MONEY,
HOW LONG IS IT TAKING TO GET
THE MONEY THEN OUT THE DOOR,
OR DO YOU SORT OF ANTICIPATE THE
MONEY IN
ADVANCE AND YOU'RE KIND OF READY
TO GO,
OR IS IT YOU'RE WAITING FOR,
YOU'RE WAITING FOR THE
APPROPRIATION,
AND THEN AFTER THAT, YOU KNOW,
YOU GOT TO GO TO.
GRANTS AND RFPS AND ALL THAT
SORT OF STUFF.
I WAS JUST HOPING TO.
I THINK IT'S BOTH.
AND, YOU KNOW, WITH HAP, WE IN
ROUND FIVE,
LA COUNTY WAS ALLOCATED 97.4
MILLION AND WILL NOT YET RECEIVE
OUR INITIAL
50% ALLOCATION UNTIL Q1 OF 2425.
AND SO SO THE DATES ONE MORE
TIME.
I'M SORRY.
UH, UNTIL FISCAL YEAR 2425
QUARTER ONE.
THE FIRST THE FIRST DAY O.
UM, SO THE STATE BUDGET WAS 2324
HAP ROUND FOR THE FIFTH
ROUND OF HAP UH LA COUNTY
ALLOCATION
WAS 97.4 MILLION.
OKAY.
AND SO EVEN AFTER YOU'RE GETTING
THE APPROPRIATION,
IT TAKES POTENTIALLY A YEAR TO
GET THE MONEY OUT THE DOOR.
WELL, WE HAVE.
BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF, UM.
WE'VE CREATED A DASHBOARD AS
YOU AS YOU'RE DESCRIBING.
AND SO WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT
WE'RE
CHECKING ALL OF OUR DATA
THAT THAT IT IS TRANSPARENT
AND AVAILABLE ON OUR WEBSITE.
THERE ARE SYSTEMS, OF COURSE, AS
YOU KNOW,
THAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO DO IN
ORDER
TO GET THE MONEY OUT THE DOOR,
BUT IT DOES TAKE TIME.
I DO FEEL LIKE IT'S IMPORTANT TO
CLARIFY THAT ALLOCATION MOMENT
IS WHEN THE NOTICE OF FUNDING
AVAILABILITY COMES OUT.
THE THE GRANTEES HAVE TO DEVELOP
A FUNDING
PLAN AND A REGIONAL ACTION PLAN
IN RESPONSE TO THAT DOLLAR
AMOUNT
THAT THEY PROVIDE US FOR REVIEW.
THEY GET FEEDBACK ON THAT REVIEW
THAT,
THAT THAT THAT ALLOCATION IS NOT
THE START
OF THE 90 DAY CLOCK I WAS
REFERENCING.
THE 90 DAY CLOCK IS POST.
HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO GET
THAT.
WHEN.
THE WHEN THE WHEN THE GRANTEES
HAVE
AN APPROVABLE APPLICATION,
THEN THEN WE WILL MAKE AN AWARD
THAT WILL.
BE 90 DAYS TO.
GO LIVE.
DO YOU GO LIVE JULY 1ST?
BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS
FOR FIVE
YEARS OR YOU GO LIVE THAT
APPLICATION.
THE APPLICATION WENT OUT OCTOBER
OF LAST YEAR, I BELIEVE.
SO IT TAKES YOU THREE MONTHS TO
DO AN APP.
WHY DOES IT TAKE YOU THREE
MONTHS
TO DO AN APPLICATION
IF THE APPLICATION IS THE SAME?
THIS THIS APPLICATION WAS WAS
DIFFERENT.
IT WAS AN EVOLUTION FROM HAP ONE
THROUGH FOUR.
IT WAS MEETING A NUMBER OF OF
NEW
REQUIREMENTS IN THE LEGISLATION.
WE THINK IT WE THINK THREE
MONTHS
WAS PRETTY EXPEDITIOUS
TO TO PUT THAT HAP FIVE NOFA OUT
THERE.
UM, BUT I DO HEAR YOUR CONCERN.
SO BUT SO YOU'RE SAYING THE
FASTEST
IT GOES IS SIX MONTHS.
BECAUSE YOU SAID 90, SO YOU SAID
OCTOBER.
AND THEN 90 DAYS IS THE FASTEST.
90 DAYS FROM AWARD.
FOLKS HAVE THEIR MONEY FROM US,
BUT THE AWARD HAS TO THE AWARD
HAS TO BE
BASED ON A FUNDING PLAN THAT
ACTUALLY.
COMPLIES WITH THE STATUTE.
BUT THAT'S NOT MY QUESTION.
I'M ASKING FOR DATES.
SO YOU SAID OCTOBER 1ST,
ROUGHLY APPROXIMATELY IS WHEN
YOU'RE COMING
OUT WITH THE REPORT, THE NOFA.
YEAH.
NOFA.
MMHM.
THEN YOU HAVE WHAT?
THEN THE APPLICATION THE.
APPLICATIONS DO END OF THE YEAR.
THE APPLICATIONS ARE.
DUE MARCH, THE END OF MARCH.
SO THE APPLICATIONS ARE DUE
MARCH 27TH.
AND WHY DOES IT TAKE WHY YOU
GIVE THEM SIX MONTHS.
THEY I MEAN IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK
TO
THIS YOU CAN BUT TO ADD I MEAN
THAT'S A HUGE AMOUNT OF WORK
WE'RE
ASKING THESE GRANTEES TO DO,
WHICH IS TO FORM AN MOU BETWEEN
THEIR COC,
THEIR COUNTY AND THEIR LOCAL TO
SHOW THAT THEY ARE
GOING TO HAVE A SOLUTION TO END
HOMELESSNESS.
LIKE IT'S THIS.
WE ARE PUTTING PRETTY HIGH
EXPECTATIONS ON FOLKS,
UH, TO MAKE A FUNDING PLAN.
BUT I JUST WANT TO BUT I JUST
WANT TO HAVE MY
COLLEAGUES UNDERSTAND WHAT'S THE
SITUATION.
RIGHT?
YEAH.
YOU GOT A PROGRAM THAT'S BY
FORMULA.
UM.
AND.
OKAY, THE THE APPLICATION'S
NOT COMING IN UNTIL MARCH,
NINE MONTHS AFTER THE AFTER WE
APPROPRIATED.
THAT'S THE APPLICATION.
SO WHEN'S THE MONEY GETTING OUT
THE DOOR.
SO THAT'S THAT MEANS YOUR YOUR
YOUR
FLOW CHART IS NOT ACCURATE.
BECAUSE IF IT'S TAKING NINE
MONTHS
TO GET THE APPLICATION BACK,
YOU SURE AS HECK COULDN'T BE
GETTING
THE MONEY OUT THE DOOR BY WINTER
OR SPRING.
THEY SO IN THERE IS A TRANSITION
THIS YEAR.
SO THIS TRANSITION IS MOVING
FROM
CAL ACH TO HCD ON JULY 1ST.
BUT I THINK.
IN ROUNDS THREE AND FOUR THAT'S
WHAT I DON'T
KNOW THAT YOUR TIMING WAS YOUR
YOUR.
I THINK THEY DID.
THEY DID MOVE MORE QUICKLY.
UM AT THAT TIME HAP FIVE IS IS
A HIGHER BAR THAN THE PAST.
AND SO THERE WAS MORE TIME
BECAUSE THERE'S
MORE EXPECTATIONS ON THE
GRANTEES.
SO.
OKAY, SO, SO IF YOU GET THE
APPLICATION
BACK END OF MARCH AND
THE FASTEST YOU SAID WAS 90
DAYS,
YOU'RE TALKING JUNE, END OF
JUNE.
YES.
AND OUR OUR REVIEW SHOWED THAT
ALL APPLICATIONS
NEEDED SOME MORE WORK.
SO WE ARE NOT IN A PLACE TO
AWARD,
UH, AWARD CAP FIVE AT THIS
POINT.
BUT REMEMBER THAT THERE MOST OF
THESE GRANTEES
STILL HAVE UNSPENT CAP ONE
THROUGH $4.
THEY HAVE LOTS OF FUNDING.
THEY THE OTHER THAN A FEW.
OTHER THAN A YEAR.
TO GET THE MONEY OUT THE DOOR.
YES, I, I.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S QUITE THE
RIGHT TIMING,
BUT YES, THAT IS, THAT.
IS.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN?
YOU JUST TOLD ME YOUR DEADLINE
IS MARCH.
YOU SAID.
YES.
NO, NO, NO.
SO YES, IT WOULD.
IT WOULD BE A YEAR.
I'M SORRY I MISUNDERSTOOD YOUR
QUESTION OVER THERE, BUT.
YES, IT WAS A STATEMENT.
NO, NO.
NO, OR I MEAN, I MISUNDERSTOOD
WHAT YOU WERE.
YOU'RE FRAMING THERE.
BUT YES IT IS.
IT'S TAKING A YEAR.
THAT'S RIGHT.
SO.
AND IF THAT'S IF THAT'S THE
WRONG TIMING,
WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT.
BUT I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO
TALK ABOUT IT.
I THINK I'M JUST GOING TO LOOK
FOR A SHOW OF, YOU KNOW,
ANYBODY FEEL LIKE A YEAR IS A
GOOD AMOUNT OF TIME.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYBODY
HERE LOOKING
AT ME GOING LIKE, HEY, YOURS IS
GREAT.
THAT SEEMS URGENT.
I, I THINK THAT I THINK THERE'S
TWO THERE'S TWO CONVERSATIONS
TO HAVE AND THAT'S ABSOLUTELY
THAT'S
ABSOLUTELY ALL RIGHT FOR YOU TO
NOT FEEL GOOD
ABOUT THAT AND TO PUSH BACK ON
THAT TIMING.
BUT I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO
NOTE THAT WE
ONLY HAVE I THINK IT IS LESS
THAN FIVE
JURISDICTIONS THAT HAVE
REQUESTED THEIR
HAP FOR SECOND ALLOTMENT AT THIS
POINT.
SO IN TERMS OF OUR GRANTEES,
WE ARE NOT IN A PLACE WHERE
GRANTEES ARE
SHOWING THAT THEY ARE READY TO
RECEIVE
THIS NEXT SET OF FUNDS.
GOT IT.
UH, AND I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT
THAT
BEFORE WE PUT OUT MORE FUNDS,
THAT WE'RE SURE THAT THOSE FUNDS
ARE GOING TO BE
SPENT IN A WAY THAT WE ALL FEEL,
UH, PROUD OF.
SO I THINK THERE'S TWO THERE'S
TWO, THERE'S TIMING,
BUT THERE'S ALSO THE QUALITY OF
THESE INVESTMENTS.
WHICH WE ABSOLUTELY CARE ABOUT
QUALITY BECAUSE BUT AGAIN,
I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE QUALITY
IS
BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE ANY DATA.
RIGHT, RIGHT.
NO.
AND THAT'S UNFORTUNATE.
SO I DON'T FEEL.
GOOD ABOUT THE DATA.
I DON'T FEEL GOOD ABOUT THE
TIME.
I MEAN, I MAY NOT HAVE LUNCH
TODAY,
SO I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO EMILY
AND JUST ASK ONCE THIS COMES
OUT.
AND SO SO THIS IS JUST SO
EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS.
THIS IS WHY THERE'S FRUSTRATION
IN THE PUBLIC.
BECAUSE WE GO HOME AND TALK
ABOUT, HEY,
WE DID THIS GREAT THING IN THE
BUDGET
AND EVERYONE'S GOING, WELL,
GREAT.
WHEN'S YOU KNOW, WHEN ARE WE
GOING TO GET
THE HOMELESS FOLKS OFF THE
STREET?
SO ANYWAYS, EMILY, CAN YOU JUST
TALK VERY SHORTLY?
THEN I HAVE TO RUN TO COMMITTEE.
UM, YOU KNOW, ONCE, ONCE THE
MONEY COMES IN,
HOW SOON DO WE I SAY WE BECAUSE
I THINK OF SAN FRANCISCO AS WE,
UM, UH, GET THE MONEY OUT
THE DOOR AND DO ALL OF THAT.
BUT THANK YOU, ASSEMBLY MEMBER
TING FOR THE QUESTION.
SO FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF
HOMELESSNESS
AND SUPPORTIVE HOUSING IN SAN
FRANCISCO,
WE APPROPRIATE THE ANTICIPATED
FUNDING IN
OUR ANNUAL BUDGET PROCESS AND
ALREADY
HAVE THE ALLOCATION SORT OF
DETERMINED
AS PART OF OUR SPENDING PLAN.
SO, HSH, OUR DEPARTMENT REALLY
TAKES
THE PERSPECTIVE OF TRYING
TO CREATE A LONG RANGE STRATEGY
WITH THESE FUNDS.
AND SO WHILE WE HAVE TOTALLY
SPENT
DOWN ROUNDS ONE AND TWO,
WE, YOU KNOW, ARE ABOUT 75%
SPENT
DOWN ON THREE AND VERY,
VERY LOW ON HOW ROUND FOUR,
ABOUT 33%,
BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD
A MULTI-YEAR SPENDING PLAN,
AS ALLOWED BY THE PROGRAM, TO
ENSURE THAT WE'RE
NOT CREATING FISCAL CLIFFS SO WE
CAN GET
THE MONEY OUT THE DOOR QUITE
QUICKLY BECAUSE
IT'S ALREADY APPROPRIATED IN OUR
BUDGET.
AND IF WE ARE USING IT TO
CONTINUE
FUNDING A PROGRAMS THAT
ARE ALREADY UP AND RUNNING,
IT CAN BE QUITE SEAMLESS.
IF AND WHEN WE DO CONTRACT AND
WANT TO ENTER INTO
A NEW CONTRACT TO DEVELOP A NEW
PROGRAM,
THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH
OUR SOLICITATION PROCESS,
PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PROCESS,
AND THEN ROLL OUT THE NEW
PROGRAM.
BUT FOR OUR CURRENT SPENDING
PLANS FOR THESE RESOURCES,
THEY CAN GET ALLOCATED RATHER
QUICKLY
ONCE APPROVED IN THE BUDGET,
GOT IT APPROVED BY THE STATE
BUDGET
AND ONCE THEY COME IN,
OKAY, I APPRECIATE THAT.
SO I MEAN, I'M HOPING THAT BOTH
OF YOUR AGENCIES
CAN WORK WITH OUR LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS, RIGHT?
SO THAT.
YOU KNOW I'M MY CONCERN IS AGAIN
THE ALL THE ALL THE CITIES
AND COUNTIES WORK ON THE SAME
GENERALLY
THE SAME FISCAL YEAR AS US.
SO IF THEY DON'T KNOW THE
MONEY'S COMING,
THEY'RE LIKE NOT APPROPRIATING
IT FOR ANOTHER YEAR.
SO THEN IT'S TWO YEARS THAT I'M
AT THE SUPERMARKET,
PEOPLE ASKING ME WHERE WHERE,
YOU KNOW,
YOU TALK ABOUT THIS GREAT MONEY
THING,
BUT HOW COME, HOW COME I LOOK
IN FRONT OF THE SUPERMARKET
AND I GOT LIKE FIVE PEOPLE
CAMPING OUT?
WE, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T CAN'T GET
IN THE MARKET.
ABSOLUTELY.
SO, SO.
I THINK I THINK THIS, THIS
STREAM, I MEAN,
I HEAR THE WORD STREAMLINING,
STREAMLINING, STREAMLINING.
AND SOMEHOW TO ME, YOU KNOW,
THE MONEY GETTING TO OUR
COMMUNITIES.
AND I'M LOOKING AT ALL OF OUR
COMMUNITIES TAKEN TWO YEARS
TO GET TO OUR COMMUNITIES IS NOT
STREAMLINING.
IF I TOOK TWO YEARS TO PAY MY
BILLS,
IF I TOOK TWO YEARS TO DO STUFF,
I GET FORECLOSED ON.
IF I TOOK TWO YEARS TO PAY MY
MORTGAGE,
THAT'S NOT MY MY,
MY BANK WOULDN'T CONSIDER THAT
FAST.
SO THIS THIS SENSE OF URGENCY,
CLEARLY WE HAVE DIFFERENT
DEFINITIONS OF WHAT THAT SENSE
OF URGENCY IS.
AND I THINK IT NEEDS TO GET SPED
UP.
YEP.
OKAY.
THANK YOU FOR THAT DELIBERATION,
MR.
TING.
POINT WELL TAKEN AND AGREE WITH
YOUR COMMENTS.
UH, AGAIN, THE URGENCY AND
EFFICIENCY
IS AN UTMOST PRIORITY.
IF WE COULD JUST HAVE MISS
TRUJILLO
MAYBE GIVE A 15 SECOND RESPONSE
IN TERMS OF THE ALLOCATION OF
THE RESOURCES ONCE THEY HIT
TRIBES.
SURE.
UM, SO WE WERE ALLOCATED
AND KEEP IN MIND THAT, YOU KNOW,
IT'S GREAT TO SEE EVERYBODY
CONCERNED
ABOUT THEIR, YOU KNOW.
YOUR AREAS OF, YOU KNOW,
FOR YOUR HOMELESS POPULATION.
OUR TRIBES ARE JUST AS
CONCERNED,
BUT WE'RE ALWAYS EXCLUDED.
JUST LIKE FROM THE CONVERSATION,
THERE'S SO MUCH THAT I THAT I
WANT TO TALK ABOUT,
AND I KNOW I'M VERY LIMITED,
SO I'LL KEEP IT LIMITED,
BUT IT'S REALLY UNFAIR ON THE
TRIBAL SIDE
TO SEE ALL THE OUTPOUR OF
CONCERN FOR,
YOU KNOW, YOUR JURISDICTIONS.
BUT WERE THE TRIBES FIT IN ON
HERE?
THE TRIBES ARE THE FIRST PEOPLE
OF CALIFORNIA
AND ARE ALWAYS EXCLUDED.
AND IT'S JUST REALLY MAKES ME
SAD THAT I'M SITTING
UP HERE AND THERE'S NO OUTPOUR
OF CONCERN FOR US.
BUT I DO WANT TO SAY OUR TRIBE,
THERE'S 110 FEDERALLY RECOGNIZED
TRIBES,
AND OUR TRIBE ALONE ONLY GOT
$300,000.
YOU KNOW WHAT WE COULD DO WITH
THAT MONEY?
NOT VERY MUCH.
BUT WE HAD TO MAKE IT WORK.
AND THE OTHER POINT I WANT TO
SAY IS,
YOU KNOW, UM, KELLY HAS BEEN
GREAT.
UM, THEY'VE BEEN WORKING WITH US
AND,
UM, FOR THIS NEXT ROUND OF
FUNDING,
I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT
THAT IT'S CONTINUOUS FUNDING,
BUT PUT MORE MONEY INTO THAT FOR
TRIBES.
TRIBES HAVE BEEN HISTORICALLY
EXCLUDED FROM ALL PROGRAMS.
AND WHEN YOU YOU KNOW, WHEN
WE'RE
SEEING BUDGETS OF, WHAT, $4.7
BILLION THAT HAVE BEEN EXPENDED
OR ALLOCATED ALREADY FOR,
UM, TRIBAL OR NOT FOR TRIBAL
HELP,
BUT JUST FOR HARP ALONE.
AND OUT OF THAT, TRIBES WERE
ALLOCATED $40 MILLION.
THOSE.
THOSE ARE PENNIES.
HOW DO WE TAKE CARE OF OUR
PEOPLE
THAT HAVEN'T BEEN TAKEN CARE OF?
THAT HAVE BEEN EXCLUDED.
SO I'M SITTING UP HERE LIKE
PLEADING LIKE,
HOW DO WE GET MORE FUNDS SO WE
CAN GO OUT AND TAKE
CARE OF OUR PEOPLE THAT NEED TO
BE TAKEN CARE OF?
WE'RE KNOCKING AT THE DOOR
SAYING, HEY,
HELP US, BUT I'M HEARING YOU
HELP,
YOU KNOW, YOUR CITIES AND YOUR
COUNTIES.
AND IT'S SADDENING FOR US.
SO WHEN YOU GUYS ARE, YOU KNOW,
TALKING ABOUT LIKE, WHAT CAN WE
DO?
COME TO US AND ASK US, WHAT CAN
WE DO?
BECAUSE THERE'S NOT MUCH THAT WE
CAN
DO AND WE'RE ASKING FOR HELP.
SO IF YOU HAVE RESERVATIONS IN
YOUR BACKYARD,
GO VISIT THEM AND SEE HOW HARD
IT IS FOR THEM.
SEE THE DILAPIDATED HOUSING, SEE
THE HOMELESSNESS.
IT'S NOT YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE
ENCAMPMENTS BECAUSE
WE HAVE OVERCROWDING, LIVING
CONDITIONS.
WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, OUR
GRANDMOTHERS
LIVING WITH FAMILIES,
AND WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS OUR
HOMELESSNESS
THE SAME AS YOU'RE TRYING TO
ADDRESS YOURS.
SO, YOU KNOW, BE MINDFUL OF THAT
AND BE
MINDFUL WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO
INCLUDE
TRIBES OR YOU WANT TO INCLUDE
TRIBES,
MAKE SURE YOU REALLY INCLUDING
THEM.
AND MEANINGFUL MEANING, YOU
KNOW,
MAKING MAKE SURE IT'S
MEANINGFUL.
BECAUSE $20 MILLION ISN'T MUCH
FOR
110 FEDERALLY RECOGNIZED TRIBES.
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR THAT.
THAT REMINDER.
UM.
NATIVE AMERICANS ARE AN
INTRICATE
PART OF OF OUR STATE.
AND TO YOUR POINT, THE FIRST
PEOPLE.
SO WE DEFINITELY HAVE TO DO
MORE.
THANK YOU FOR THAT.
THANK YOU.
OKAY, LET'S MOVE ON TO, UH, MR.
WARD.
&GT;&GT; THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, MR.
CHAIR.
I'M MINDFUL OF THE TIME AS WELL.
UM, MAYBE I'LL JUST START BY
UNDERSCORING AS WELL.
UM, MY COLLEAGUE FROM SAN
FRANCISCO, UH,
HOW MUCH I SHARE HIS FRUSTRATION
WITH THAT.
NOT BECAUSE OF WHAT WE
EXPERIENCED,
BUT BECAUSE I'VE ALSO BEEN
ASKING
THESE SAME QUESTIONS SINCE 2022,
AND I FEEL LIKE THIS IS
GROUNDHOG DAY.
I'M SORRY.
I WILL APPRECIATE, AND I'M
GRATEFUL FOR
HCD FOR TAKING OVER THIS
PROGRAM.
I THINK IT'S BETTER SUITED THERE
THAN CAL H.
UM, FOR THE MANAGEMENT OF THIS.
BUT YOU KNOW, BACK IN MY FIRST
SESSION,
I'VE BEEN ASKING FOR NOT JUST
TALKING ABOUT
THE DOLLARS THAT WE'RE SPENDING.
HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE WE HELPING,
HOW MANY HOMES ARE CREATED,
WHAT ARE THE OUTCOMES?
AND SO FOR EVEN BACK TO 2021,
AS WE'VE HAD IMPROVEMENTS UNDER
HAP THREE FOR,
UH, SOME OF THE METRICS THAT
WE'RE EXPECTING,
IT'S STILL FRUSTRATING HERE
THREE
YEARS LATER THAT WE'RE
NOT SEEING THOSE METRICS AND
THAT THEY HADN'T.
MAYBE WE WERE ABLE TO REVAMP OUR
SYSTEMS
LOCALLY DOWN IN SAN DIEGO,
TO BE ABLE TO SHOW THAT
DASHBOARD AND SHOW
THOSE OUTCOMES AND CLEAN UP THAT
DATA.
I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE SAYING, YOU
KNOW,
YOU'RE WORRIED SOME OF IT MIGHT
BE CORRUPTED INFORMATION,
BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN DO THAT.
WE DID THAT IN LESS THAN A 12
MONTH TIME FRAME,
AND NOW WE'VE GOT A MONTHLY REAL
TIME DASHBOARD
THAT IS SHOWING PROGRAM BY
PROGRAM, UH,
PROVIDER BY PROVIDER, WHERE
THOSE DOLLARS
ARE GOING AND HOW HOW MANY
PEOPLE,
HOW MANY CLIENTS ARE BEING
SERVED
AND WHAT ARE THE OUTCOMES.
RIGHT.
AND THE FACT THAT WE'RE STILL
NOW,
THREE YEARS LATER HERE AT THE
STATE
IS INCREDIBLY FRUSTRATING,
BECAUSE THAT GUIDES OUR DECISION
MAKING HERE AS A BUDGET.
I'LL SAY FOR SOME OF MY
COLLEAGUES,
BECAUSE OF COURSE, WE, YOU KNOW,
TALK ABOUT HOW MUCH MONEY BACK
TO
THE MONEY INSTEAD OF PEOPLE,
BUT HOW MUCH MONEY WE'RE PUTTING
OUT THE DOOR RIGHT NOW,
AND THAT WE'RE ALSO TALKING
ABOUT
MAYBE SEEING A REVERSION
OF SOME OF THAT SUPPORT HERE
FROM THE STATE THIS YEAR,
BEING ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK
RIGHT NOW,
JUST SOME BACK OF THE ENVELOPE
NUMBERS TO THROW OUT THERE I
THINK
REALLY SHOULD HOPEFULLY.
HELP YOU APPRECIATE THAT WE'VE
NEVER
BEEN DOING ENOUGH ALL ALONG,
THAT IF FOR SOME OF THE PROGRAMS
THAT ARE HERE THAT ARE MANAGING
HOMELESSNESS ARE STARTING TO
SHOW ABOUT $35,000
OF PUBLIC SUBSIDY PER CLIENT PER
YEAR,
AND YOU MULTIPLY THAT ACROSS
180,000
CALIFORNIANS EXPERIENCING
HOMELESSNESS.
AND THAT'S JUST THE POINT IN
TIME COUNT NUMBER.
THAT'S A $6.5 BILLION INVESTMENT
THAT WE SHOULD BE MAKING,
UH, MAKING EVERY YEAR JUST TO
MANAGE IT.
THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY SOLVE
THE HOMELESSNESS ISSUES
THAT ARE OUT THERE, BUT JUST TO
BE ABLE TO MANAGE.
AND WE'RE NOT EVEN DOING THAT
LEVEL.
BUT THEN YOU LOOK AT A
SUCCESSFUL
PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE.
URGENTLY AND EXPEDITIOUSLY BEEN
ABLE
TO PUT IT OUT THERE UNDER HOME
KEY.
THAT COST EFFECTIVELY IS BEING
ABLE
TO PRODUCE A NEW UNIT OF HOUSING
AND ACTUALLY STABILIZE AND GET
SOMEBODY
IN AT THE TUNE OF $140,000 A
UNIT.
IF YOU SPREAD THAT OR MULTIPLY
THAT OUT.
OVER 180,000 HOMELESSNESS, UH,
INDIVIDUALS EXPERIENCING
HOMELESSNESS,
THAT'S A $25.5 BILLION
INVESTMENT.
IF YOU REALLY WANT TO MAKE A
DIFFERENCE OR
IF YOU REALLY WANT TO, UM,
CHANGE IT.
AND THAT DOESN'T EVEN GET TO
SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS
THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE.
THE INPUTS INTO HOMELESSNESS,
THE RISE IN RENT,
THE THE NEED FOR MORE MARKET
BASED AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
SO ALL THIS REALLY IS CONNECTED.
BUT I JUST DEEPLY WANT TO
UNDERSCORE THAT, YES,
IT'S FRUSTRATING THAT WE'RE
SPENDING AS MUCH AS IT IS,
AND WE NEED TO BE EFFICIENT WITH
EVERY
SINGLE ONE OF THOSE DOLLARS.
BUT WE'VE NEVER BEEN DOING
ENOUGH ALL ALONG.
AND SO IT REALLY, YOU KNOW,
IT GETS ME THAT WE'RE THINKING
ABOUT
MAKING MORE CUTS THIS YEAR
BECAUSE
OUR LOCALS NEED IT.
AND I'LL UNDERSCORE AS WELL WHAT
OTHERS HAVE BEEN SAYING,
YOU KNOW, IN MY COUNTY, UH,
IT'S NOT BEEN UP TO 12 MONTHS
THAT WE'VE BEEN
ABLE TO SEE FROM APPROPRIATION
OUT TO IMPACT.
IT'S MORE THAN 18 MONTHS FOR
HALF THREE FUNDING
THAT IT'S TAKEN TO BE ABLE TO
GET DOWN THERE
AND ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO PUT OUT
THE DOOR FOR THEM
TO START TO ACTUALLY FUND THOSE
PROGRAMS.
AND THEN THEN THEN THE IMPACT
STARTS TO HAPPEN, RIGHT?
THAT TAKES ANOTHER 12 MONTHS TO
BE ABLE TO
MEASURE AND REPORT BACK TO THE
STATE.
SO WE'VE GOT TO SHRINK THIS TIME
FRAME.
I'VE WORKED WITH HCD,
WE'VE DONE LEGISLATION TOGETHER,
AND I'M ASKING FOR MORE
INFORMATION
ABOUT ANY AND ALL AUTHORITIES
THAT YOU NEED TO MORE
EXPEDITIOUSLY
BE ABLE TO STREAMLINE,
TO BE ABLE TO CUT THAT TIME
FRAME DOWN,
TO BE ABLE TO TRY SOMETHING NEW.
BECAUSE OUR MONIES THAT ARE
COMING DOWN
TO LOCAL GOVERNMENT ARE NOT
ENOUGH.
WE KNOW THOSE PROGRAMS ARE
OVERSUBSCRIBED.
THE NUMBER OF QUALIFIED
APPLICANTS THAT ARE
COMING IN THAT ARE READY TO DO
THAT WORK.
IT EATS INTO THE BUDGET THAT
THEY'RE
GIVEN EVERY SINGLE YEAR.
SO, UM, WE GOT TO DO OUR PART TO
BE ABLE TO TO INCREASE THAT.
I, UM, I DID WANT TO ASK MAYBE
JUST ONE QUESTION,
TOO, IF I MAY.
UM, ONE IS THAT, YOU KNOW,
KNOWING THAT THESE METRICS
FOR HARP THREE HAVE BEEN OUT
THERE SINCE 2021,
IS THAT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO
EXPECT
TO SEE IN THIS REPORT?
BECAUSE I'VE BEEN ASKING THIS
AGAIN FOR THREE YEARS.
ARE YOU GOING TO START TO SHOW
US THE NUMBER OF CLIENTS THAT
ARE SERVED SO WE CAN START TO
MEASURE APPLES TO APPLES?
WHICH PROGRAMS OR WHICH REGIONS
ARE DOING BETTER?
BRIEF RESPONSES IF IT WILL BE.
INCLUDED IN THE REPORT.
THANK YOU.
AND THEN HAVE VERSUS UH, URF
FUNDING.
BOTH OF THOSE SEEM VERY FLEXIBLE
AND
I APPRECIATE THE FLEXIBILITY BY
DESIGN.
UM, BUT THERE'S THERE'S ALSO A
LOT OF OVERLAP
AND MAYBE THE KINDS OF PROGRAMS
THAT COULD BE SERVED THERE IF
YOU
HAD TO PICK ONE OR ANOTHER,
LIKE IF YOU COULD ONLY FUND ONE,
WHICH ONE IS MORE EFFECTIVE,
SORT OF FROM YOUR VANTAGE POINT
TODAY.
WITHOUT A DOUBT, I WOULD SAY
HAB URF IS IS A COMPETITIVE
APPLICATION NUMBER ONE LIMITED
TO.
BUT YET THAT'S.
THE ONE THAT THE GOVERNOR
DOESN'T WANT TO
TOUCH IN THIS DRAFT BUDGET IN
JANUARY.
YET WE WANT TO GUT HAP.
JUST JUST BASED OFF OF THE DATA
THAT WE HAVE
AND THE ALL INCLUSIVE NATURE OF
HAP.
HAP DOESN'T FOCUS ON A SPECIFIC
POPULATION.
IT FOCUSES ON THE COMMUNITY AS A
WHOLE.
URF IS IS A FOCUS ON ONE
ENCAMPMENT IN A COMMUNITY.
RIGHT.
OKAY.
WELL, PERHAPS YOU WANT WE WANT
TO COLLAPSE THIS TOO,
AND TAKE BEST LESSONS,
LESSONS LEARNED MAYBE FROM EACH
OF ONE OF THOSE PROGRAMS.
AND WHEREVER WE CAN FIND
EFFICIENCIES
AND CONSOLIDATE
AND TO I THINK OUR SUPERVISOR'S
POINT THAT COORDINATION,
PUTTING ALL THE MONEY AND ALL
THE RESOURCES
AND ALL THE PARTNERS TOGETHER,
MAKING THESE DECISIONS, I THINK
WOULD
BENEFIT THE OVERALL PICTURE.
THANK YOU, MR.
CHAIR.
APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS AND
QUESTIONS, MR.
WARD.
LET'S MOVE ON TO MR.
GALLAGHER.
&GT;&GT; YES.
THANK YOU, MR.
CHAIRMAN.
UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THIS IS AN
OVERSIGHT HEARING.
SO TO ME, IT'S REALLY ABOUT.
YOU ALL KIND OF JUSTIFYING TO US
WHY WE SHOULD
CONTINUE TO SPEND THE MONEY
LIKE.
AND I THINK, LOOK, THERE'S SOME
BIG QUESTIONS HERE,
VERY BIG QUESTIONS.
AND WE'RE ALLUDING TO THEM.
BUT LOOK, $24 BILLION EXPENDED
AND HOMELESSNESS
HAS INCREASED BY 20% IN
CALIFORNIA.
THAT'S THE FACTS.
SO TO SAY.
SOMEHOW WE'RE DOING THINGS
REALLY WELL.
I DON'T THINK IT'S AN ACCURATE
STATEMENT.
AND AND THE LION'S SHARE OF THAT
MONEY,
TO BE FAIR, HAS GONE TO THE BIG
CITIES.
AND HASN'T GONE TO TRIBES AND
RURAL AREAS THAT
ALSO HAVE ISSUES WITH
HOMELESSNESS, YOU KNOW,
WITH SUBURBAN OR MID, YOU KNOW,
MID-SIZE COUNTIES THAT ALSO HAVE
ISSUES WITH HOMELESSNESS.
RIGHT?
SO A LOT OF MONEY BEEN EXPENDED,
ESPECIALLY IN BIG COUNTIES,
BIG CITIES, UM, TO SEE THE
PROBLEM
ACTUALLY GET WORSE.
UM, AND SO I THINK THE REAL
QUESTION THAT
WE NEED TO BE ASKING HERE IS
LIKE.
I AM VERY MUCH CONCERNED BY THE
FIRST PART OF MR.
TING'S QUESTIONING, WHERE WE
DON'T HAVE
DATA TO REALLY SHOW US WHAT'S
GOING ON.
BUT I.
I'M LESS CONCERNED BY THE SECOND
PART.
I DON'T KNOW THAT I WANT TO KEEP
SENDING MONEY OUT
WHEN I DON'T HAVE GOOD DATA TO
SHOW ME THAT
THAT MONEY IS ACTUALLY HELPING
GET PEOPLE OUT
OF HOMELESSNESS AND AND BEING
EFFECTIVE.
UM, AND SO I DO WANT TO MAYBE GO
TO EACH OF YOU AND JUST SAY,
HEY, WHAT NEEDS TO CHANGE?
UH, MAYBE SPECIFICALLY TO TO LA
COUNTY.
I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE ALREADY
DONE YOUR OWN AUDIT.
UM, OF MONEY.
UM, AND NOW WE HAD THE RECENT,
YOU KNOW,
HOMELESS AUDIT THAT CAME BACK TO
US,
WHICH SAID WE DON'T HAVE A WHOLE
LOT OF DATA.
CAN YOU TELL ME JUST JUST FROM
YOUR
GUYS'S OWN REVIEW, HOW MANY,
UH, WHAT'S THE PERCENTAGE OF
SUCCESSFUL HOMELESS EXITS?
DO YOU GUYS HAVE THAT DATA FROM
LA COUNTY FOR
THE MONEY THAT YOU SPENT ON
DIFFERENT PROGRAMS,
WHAT'S THE AMOUNT OF WHAT'S
THE PERCENTAGE OF THOSE BROUGHT
INTO SHELTER AND HAVE A
SUCCESSFUL EXIT TO HOUSING?
I DON'T KNOW THE SPECIFIC
PERCENTAGE,
BUT I CAN TELL YOU I'M SURE
THAT'S
SOMETHING THAT WE CAN PROVIDE.
WE HAVE 30% OF THE NATION'S
UNHOUSED
IN OUR, UH, REGION.
SO WE HAVE A LOT THAT WE'RE
CONTENDING WITH.
I THINK ONE OF THE TO YOUR
QUESTION,
WHAT COULD ALSO HELP?
UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
WE'RE DOING BETWEEN COUNTY
AND LHASA IS ALIGNING WHAT KPIS
ARE BEING MEASURED.
UM, I THINK EVERYONE ASKING FOR
DATA IS HELPFUL,
AND I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WOULD
ASK FOR IT.
AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT
MEASUREMENTS
ARE ACTUALLY MEANINGFUL,
LIKE THE QUESTION THAT YOU'RE
ASKING VERSUS SOME OTHER.
THERE'S A LOT OF DATA THAT GETS
PRODUCED,
SOME OF IT IS MORE HELPFUL THAN
OTHERS.
AND IF WE'RE SPENDING OUR TIME
DOING DATA,
WE'RE NOT DOING SERVICE
DELIVERY.
SO I THINK FIGURING OUT EXACTLY
THE KINDS
OF QUESTIONS LIKE THE ONE YOU
ASKED, UH,
THAT YOU WANT TO SEE AS KEY
MEASUREMENTS
WOULD BE A HELPFUL WAY TO MOVE
FORWARD.
RIGHT?
HOW ABOUT ON YOUR AUDIT?
UM, YOU GUYS ACTUALLY CAME OUT
WITH THAT $734,000
A UNIT WAS EXPENDED AT LEAST ONE
PROJECT,
UH, THAT, I BELIEVE WAS
APARTMENTS.
UM, HOW MANY OF THOSE APARTMENTS
ARE
ACTUALLY FILLED NOW, AT THIS
POINT.
UM, APARTMENTS FILL UP PRETTY
QUICKLY.
UM, AND WE ARE CERTAINLY WORKING
ON REDUCING THE COST.
SOME OF THAT IS ALSO RELATED TO
THE COST OF THE LAND THAT THAT,
UH, ON WHICH THE HOUSING SITS.
WOULD YOU SAY THAT'S COST
EFFECTIVE?
734,000 A UNIT?
NO, THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT THE
BEST USE OF $734.
I AGREE, $734,000.
BUT WE DO NEED THE HOUSING.
AND SO WE ARE WORKING TO FIND
MORE COST
EFFECTIVE SOLUTIONS TO HOUSING.
BUT WE CAN'T NOT BUILD HOUSING.
WHAT ABOUT SANTA MONICA NOW IS
JUST
ANNOUNCED ANOTHER APARTMENT THAT
THEY'RE A HOME FOR HOMELESS
HOUSING,
UH, $1 MILLION A UNIT.
IS THAT A COST EFFECTIVE USE OF
OUR MONEY?
I'M NOT SURE WHAT WENT INTO
THEIR HOUSING PROJECT
TO TO GET TO THE NUMBER THAT
YOU'RE INDICATING,
BUT I DO KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO
BUILD MORE HOUSING,
AND THE LONGER WE WAIT,
THE HIGHER THE COST IS GOING TO
BE.
RIGHT.
AND THIS IS MONEY THAT'S BEING
EXPENDED RIGHT NOW.
AND THE PROBLEM IS, I HAVE NO
IDEA
IF THAT'S ACTUALLY A SUCCESS.
I DON'T KNOW IF THOSE PROGRAMS
ARE ACTUALLY SUCCESSFUL.
YOU KNOW, I'LL GO TO I'LL GO TO
MR.
HILL.
WHAT DO YOU THINK NEEDS TO
CHANGE, YOU KNOW,
IN TERMS OF HOW MONEY AND WHAT
PROGRAMMING
MIGHT BE A BETTER USE OF FUNDS
AND,
AND ALLOCATION MIGHT BE A BETTER
USE OF FUNDS?
WELL, I DO HAVE TO SAY TRIBAL
HAP HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL.
THE ONLY THING THAT, UM,
I WOULD REITERATE IS THAT IT'S
NOT ENOUGH FUNDING.
WE HAVE, LIKE I SAID, 110
FEDERALLY
RECOGNIZED TRIBES,
NOT ALL TRIBES APPLY FOR
THE PROGRAM OR FOR THE FUNDING.
UM, AND IF THEY DO,
CAN YOU IMAGINE HOW MANY YOU
KNOW,
IF IF EVERY TRIBE WAS AWARDED,
HOW MUCH MONEY 20 MILLION WOULD
SERVE,
THAT WOULD BE NOTHING.
THEN I'M LISTENING TO, LIKE,
UM, $700,000 FOR A UNIT.
WE DON'T EVEN GET THAT MUCH IN
OUR ALLOCATION.
SO IT'S KIND OF I'M JUST SITTING
HERE,
LIKE TAKING IT BACK, LIKE, WOW,
YOU KNOW,
I KNOW THAT THERE WAS A
DEVELOPER
OR I DON'T A STORY OF
A DEVELOPER IN SAN DIEGO THAT
KIND OF WENT ON HIS OWN,
AND HE WAS ABLE TO BUILD UNITS
FOR $300,000.
SO I DON'T KNOW.
I KNOW THAT HOUSING IS A LOT OF
MONEY.
I KNOW THAT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE
TO TO CONSTRUCT,
EVEN FOR OUR RESERVATION LANDS,
IS ABOUT $250 TO $300 A SQUARE
FOOT.
SO, UM, THERE'S A CRISIS AND
IT'S ACROSS THE BOARD.
BUT WHEN IT COMES TO TO TRIBAL
HOUSING, UM,
AND FROM MY INPUT, $20 MILLION
IS NOT ENOUGH,
ESPECIALLY IF THE TRIBES HAVE
NOT BEEN
INVESTED IN AT THE STATE LEVEL
AT ALL.
AND.
FOR US TO SERVE OUR PEOPLE.
IT'S GOING TO TAKE MORE THAN
THAT.
YOU KNOW, CITIES AND STATES AND
COX, YOU KNOW,
THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO SERVE, YOU
KNOW,
PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, FOR FOR
DECADES.
AND WE HAVEN'T.
AND I WANT TO JUST ALSO SAY
WE'RE NOT PART OF A COC.
WE'RE NOT IN THE HDMI HMMIS
SYSTEM.
UM, THAT'S SOMETHING NEW FOR
TRIBES.
SO WE'RE NOT INCLUDED WITH
THOSE.
UM, WE'RE COMPLETELY SEPARATE.
WE HAVE OUR OWN DATA.
SO WHEN YOU'RE ASKING FOR DATA,
WE HAVE OUR OWN DATA.
I KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE WE'VE
SERVED BECAUSE
I WORK WITH THOSE PEOPLE DAILY.
WE WERE ABLE TO SERVE 60 PEOPLE
WITH OUR GRANT,
AND THAT WAS MINIMAL SMALL
FUNDING.
UH, WE WERE ABLE TO DO LIKE A
$5,000
DOWN PAYMENT SO THEY CAN GET
INTO
A HOME OUTSIDE OF THE
RESERVATION,
WAITING FOR A HOME ON THE
RESERVATION
TO WHERE THEIR BACK TO THE
CULTURE.
SO WE TRY TO MAKE IT WORK.
UM, AND WE WILL MAKE IT WORK.
BUT WE DO NEED FUNDING.
WE NEED MORE FUNDING.
AND TRIBAL IS THE MOST IMPORTANT
FUNDING
SOURCE FOR US AT THE TIME.
THAT'S IMPRESSIVE.
AND I'LL BE DONE.
UH, MR.
CHAIRMAN, I JUST.
IF SAN FRANCISCO JUST TO YOU,
UH,
WHAT IS YOUR PERCENTAGE OF
SUCCESSFUL EXITS,
UH, BASED ON THE PROGRAM YOU'VE
BEEN DOING SO FAR?
UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE
QUESTION.
THE THE FUNDS IN SAN FRANCISCO
HAVE
BEEN INCREDIBLY IMPACTFUL.
WE USE THIS TO SUPPORT NEARLY
1700
ROOMS OF SHELTER DURING OUR
COVID,
UH, RESPONSE, WHICH WE CALLED
SHELTER IN PLACE HOTELS.
THE FUNDING IS ALSO DEDICATED
OR CREATED 973 SHELTER BEDS,
AS WELL AS SUPPORTED OUR LONG
TERM STRATEGIC PLANNING.
AND THROUGH THESE AND OTHER
EFFORTS,
BECAUSE WE ALSO HAVE A ROBUST
LOCALLY AND FEDERALLY FUNDED
COMPONENTS OF OUR PROGRAM.
WE REHOUSED LAST YEAR 3600
PEOPLE, AND SINCE 2018,
WE HAVE MOVED 15,000 PEOPLE OUT
OF HOMELESSNESS.
BETWEEN 2019 AND 2023, WE
INCREASED OUR
HOUSING PLACEMENT RATE BY OVER
100%.
AND WHILE THIS IS NOT ALL
ATTRIBUTABLE
TO HAP BECAUSE OF
THE BRAIDED FUNDING STRATEGY
AND MOST OF OUR PROGRAMS,
HAP HAS BEEN INSTRUMENTAL TO
ACHIEVING THAT
SUCCESS AND I HEAR YOUR
FRUSTRATION
ABOUT WE SPEND ALL THIS MONEY
AND LOOK,
HOMELESSNESS IS GOING UP.
I MEAN, THAT IS THE REALITY.
YEAH.
I MEAN.
ESPECIALLY IN YOUR CITY LIVES.
UM, BUT WHAT WE ARE NOT ABLE
THIS IS IT'S A TWO FOLD
PROBLEM ON THE INFLOW IN TERMS
OF HAVING ENOUGH
AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT PEOPLE
ARE NOT FALLING
INTO HOMELESSNESS WITH A HIDDEN
ECONOMIC BUMP,
AND THEN HAVING ENOUGH
PREVENTION SERVICES
TO BE ABLE TO CATCH THEM WHEN
THEY DO.
AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE
HAVE STRUGGLED.
I THINK EVERY COMMUNITY HERE TO
GET
OUR HANDS AROUND IN TERMS OF.
WE ARE GETTING BETTER AND BETTER
AND BETTER AT REHOUSING PEOPLE,
GETTING THEM OUT OF
HOMELESSNESS,
AND WE ARE STRUGGLING TO KEEP
PEOPLE
FROM FALLING INTO HOMELESSNESS.
AND SO MUCH OF THAT HAS TO DO
WITH
SYSTEMS FAR UPSTREAM FROM OURS.
UM, WHETHER THAT'S DISCHARGE
PLANNING,
HOSPITAL RELEASE, UM, FOSTER
CARE.
A MYRIAD OF SYSTEMS THAT
DISCHARGE
INTO HOMELESSNESS,
AND THAT IS AN ENTIRELY.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER BODY OF
WORK THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS,
BUT IT DOESN'T MINIMIZE THE
IMPACT THAT
THESE DOLLARS ARE HAVING ON THE
STREET.
SO WHAT'S THE PERCENTAGE,
THOUGH?
I HEARD A LOT OF AND I GET THAT
THERE'S A LOT OF FACETS,
BUT WHAT'S THE PERCENTAGE OF
PEOPLE ACTUALLY GETTING
SUCCESSFULLY REHOUSED OF THOSE
SERVED?
I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT
PERCENTAGE,
BUT WHAT I CAN SAY
IS ABOUT 30% OF PEOPLE
EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS
IN OUR COMMUNITY ARE ELIGIBLE
AND WORKING TOWARDS
PERMANENT HOUSING SOLUTIONS
FUNDED BY OUR SYSTEM.
AND THAT WILL GROW WITH THE MORE
FUNDING WE HAVE.
THANK YOU, MR.
GALLAGHER.
APPRECIATE YOUR UNDERSTANDING.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET
TO OTHER COLLEAGUES
AS WELL BEFORE SESSION STARTS.
IF WE CAN JUMP TO THE ONE
QUESTION MR.
HOOVER HAS.
UH, WE ARE OUT OF TIME,
BUT I AND I HAVE A LOT OF
QUESTIONS,
BUT I WILL I WILL STAY TO ONE.
I THINK I SHARE THE FRUSTRATIONS
EXPRESSED
BY MY COLLEAGUES ON THIS PANEL
TODAY.
UM, AND TO ME, THE LONG AND
SHORT
OF IT IS WE HAVE TO STOP
MEASURING SUCCESS BY HOW MANY
DOLLARS WE'RE SPENDING.
I DON'T YOU KNOW, I AM
FRUSTRATED
BY THE LACK OF URGENCY
THAT THAT I SEE TODAY AND THE
LACK OF DATA.
AND I THINK THAT AT THE END OF
THE DAY,
WE HAVE TO CHANGE THAT.
AND SO MY ONE QUESTION WOULD BE
THAT
IN THE STATE AUDITOR'S REPORT,
UM,
THEY RECOMMENDED THAT THE
LEGISLATURE AMEND
STATE LAW TO REQUIRE CAEL EICH
TO MANDATE
REPORTING BY STATE AGENCIES OF
COSTS
AND OUTCOMES OF STATE
HOMELESSNESS PROGRAMS.
I WANT TO GET YOUR THOUGHTS
ON ON THAT RECOMMENDATION.
I HAVE LEGISLATION TO IMPLEMENT
THAT,
BUT I WANT TO KNOW YOUR THOUGHTS
ON THAT LEGISLATION.
AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, AS WAS
MENTIONED BY HCD,
UM, ABOUT THIS,
YOU KNOW, REPORTING SYSTEM,
REAL TIME REPORTING SYSTEM,
THAT'S THAT PROVIDERS CAN REPORT
TO,
ARE YOU GOING TO BE REQUIRING
THAT
THEY REPORT CERTAIN METRICS TO
THAT
SYSTEM ONCE IT'S UP AND RUNNING.
SO THAT WOULD BE MY QUESTION.
THANK YOU.
I'LL START FIRST WITH WITH
THE THE AUDITOR'S
RECOMMENDATIONS,
WHICH I SUPPORTED AND AGREED
WITH.
HOWEVER, IN 2021, I BELIEVE IT
WAS THE LEGISLATURE
MADE A SIGNIFICANT ALLOCATION
FOR CALLISTEGE
TO CONDUCT A SYSTEM WIDE
ASSESSMENT AND BECAME
KNOWN AS THE LANDSCAPE
ASSESSMENT.
UM, THAT WAS A ONE TIME
INVESTMENT.
WE PARTNERED WITH TURNER CENTER
FOR
THE THE COMPLETION OF THAT
REPORT.
UH CALLISTEGE WOULD LOVE TO STEP
IN THE SPACE
OF AGGREGATE REPORTING ACROSS
OUR,
OUR STATE DEPARTMENTS AND
AGENCIES.
UM, WOULD WOULD NEED TO,
AS WE INDICATED IN THE RESPONSE,
WOULD NEED TO COME WITH
ADDITIONAL RESOURCES,
WHICH I KNOW IS A IS A TOUGH ASK
IN
THIS PARTICULAR BUDGET CLIMATE.
SO NONE OF THE BILLIONS THAT
WE'VE EXPENDED,
UH, CAN, YOU KNOW,
NOT A PERCENTAGE OF THOSE CANNOT
GO TO FUND TRANSPARENCY.
KALEIDO STAGE IS A SO THE
EXISTING
GRANT FUNDS MOVING OVER TO HCD.
CALLISTEGE IS IN A POSITION
WHERE IT NEEDS TO EXPLORE
LONG TERM FUNDING FOR CALLISTEGE
TO EXIST.
TO CONTINUE TO EXIST AS A AS AN
ENTITY.
AND SO WE WE WILL NO LONGER HAVE
ACCESS TO DOLLARS
THAT THAT HAVE BEEN ATTACHED
ADMINISTRATIVELY TO,
TO TO THESE PROGRAMS.
AND I GUESS THE QUESTION FOR
HEDY.
THANK YOU.
UM.
SO THEY.
UM.
RIGHT NOW, THE GRANTEES REPORT
QUARTERLY ON THEIR OBLIGATION
AND EXPENDITURES AND HOW THEY'RE
USING THEIR FUNDS.
UM, THOSE WILL STILL BE, UM,
DEADLINES BY WHICH THEY NEED TO
REPORT.
BUT WHAT WE'RE CHANGING IN THE
NEXT
COUPLE OF WEEKS IS MAKING IT
SO THAT THEY CAN REPORT EARLY,
UM, ON, ON THAT INFORMATION.
AND WHEN WE OBVIOUSLY DO TO TO
FOLLOW UP FOR
ANYBODY THAT IS BEHIND IN THEIR
REPORTING.
AND SO THAT THAT HAS BEEN GOING
ON,
WE'LL CONTINUE THAT PRACTICE.
UM, BUT WE ARE UM, THEY, THEY
GET THREE
MONTHS TO REPORT ON THE DATA.
AND I HAVE NOT AT THIS POINT
ENVISIONED
SPEEDING UP THAT TIMELINE.
UM, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SPEED
UP
IS OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE TO MAKE
SURE THAT THOSE WHO WANT TO
REPORT EARLIER,
UM, CAN DO SO.
UH, WE WILL HEAD TO MR.
MAYOR AND THEN FINISH UP WITH
MR.
FONG.
&GT;&GT; THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
MR.
CHAIR, FOR INVITING ME TO JOIN
THIS
VERY IMPORTANT DISCUSSION.
AND I WANT TO, AS A MEMBER OF
THE L.A.
COUNTY DELEGATION.
WELCOME, CHAIR HORVATH.
UH, AND THANK YOU FOR, UM,
YOUR PARTICIPATION IN THIS
HEARING.
UH, SO, CHAIR HORVATH, YOU AND
I, UH,
PROBABLY SAW THE SAME HEADLINE
IN THE LOS ANGELES
TIMES ON APRIL 9TH OF 2020 FOR
CALIFORNIA.
SPENT BILLIONS ON HOMELESSNESS
WITHOUT
TRAFFIC TRACKING IF IT WORKED.
AND, UH, THE UH, ARTICLE GOES ON
TO TALK ABOUT
HOW CALIFORNIA HAS SPENT $20
BILLION
OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS
DEDICATED TO
THE STATE'S HOMELESS
HOMELESSNESS CRISIS.
UH, STILL, HOMELESSNESS GREW 6%
IN 2023 FROM
THE YEAR PRIOR TO MORE THAN
180,000 PEOPLE.
AND SINCE 2013, HOMELESSNESS HAS
GROWN IN CALIFORNIA BY 53%.
SO I WANTED TO ECHO, UM, WHAT,
UH,
CHAIR GABRIEL WAS SAYING
EARLIER, YOU KNOW,
WE ARE ALL DEALING WITH, UH,
CONSTITUENTS THAT ARE NOT SEEING
ANY DIFFERENCE BEING MADE.
AND, UM, MY, MY, MY TIMING.
THIS THE TIMING OF THIS HEARING
IS GREAT BECAUSE I HAVE A TOWN
HALL AND HOMELESSNESS IN
TORRANCE
THIS COMING SATURDAY.
AND, UH, YOU CAN IMAGINE WHAT
A TOUGH CROWD THAT'S GOING TO
BE.
UM, BUT, UH, I WANTED TO
ACTUALLY FOLLOW ON MR.
GALLAGHER'S, UH, LINE OF
QUESTIONING IN TERMS OF,
YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN FEELING FOR
YEARS, LIKE.
LIKE WE'VE WE'VE JUST BEEN
SHOVELING MONEY AT THIS
CRISIS WITHOUT REALLY HAVING THE
DATA TO KNOW,
UH, YOU KNOW, WHETHER WE'RE
SPENDING THE MONEY WISELY.
AND, AND I'VE BEEN HARPING ON
THIS POINT,
THE SAME POINT THAT MR.
GALLAGHER RAISED ABOUT THE COST
PER UNIT
OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING BEING
BUILT.
UM, YOU MENTIONED, UM, I THINK I
THINK YOU AFFIRMED
THAT THERE IS A, A FIGURE
$734,000
PER AFFORDABLE APARTMENT UNIT,
UH,
BEING DEVELOPED IN LOS ANGELES
COUNTY.
IS THAT CORRECT?
THAT'S WHAT'S BEEN REPORTED.
OKAY.
ALL RIGHT.
AND, UM, DO YOU KNOW HOW LONG,
HOW MANY YEARS ON AVERAGE IT
TAKES FOR THESE AFFORDABLE
APARTMENT
UNITS TO BE BUILT?
IT DEPENDS ON THE JURISDICTION.
MANY JURISDICTIONS CAN HAVE
OVERLY
BURDENSOME PROCESSES, AS YOU
KNOW.
BUT IS THERE AN AVERAGE FOR LOS
ANGELES COUNTY?
I DON'T HAVE AN AVERAGE AMOUNT
OF TIME AT
THIS POINT TO BE ABLE TO SHARE
WITH YOU.
OKAY.
I YOU KNOW, I HAVE HEARD
ANYTHING FROM $700,000
TO $1 MILLION PER AFFORDABLE
HOUSING UNIT,
UH, TO TAKE BETWEEN 3 TO 5 YEARS
TO BUILD AND.
TO ME THAT THAT SEEMS TO, UH,
CAPTURE HOW, YOU KNOW.
WE'RE BEING ASKED TO CONTINUE TO
SHOVEL MONEY
TOWARD THIS CRISIS WHEN WE KNOW
THAT, UM,
THAT WE ARE FACING A MASSIVE
BUDGET DEFICIT
THIS YEAR AND SPENDING OVER
$700,000
PER AFFORDABLE UNIT, I MEAN,
I'VE VISITED SOME OF THESE
UNITS.
IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, FOR THE
LUCKY PERSON
THAT GETS HOUSED IN THAT UNIT,
THAT'S ONE LUCKY PERSON, LIKE,
AS IF THAT'S,
YOU KNOW, WINNING THE LOTTERY.
BUT IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE
SUSTAINABLE.
IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE, UH,
EFFECTIVE IN TERMS OF GETTING
PEOPLE
AS QUICKLY AS, YOU KNOW,
AS WE WANT TO SEE, AS OUR
CONSTITUENTS
WANT TO SEE OFF OF THE STREETS.
UM.
AND SO I JUST WANTED TO RAISE
THE CONCERN.
I FEEL THAT THE STATE AUDITOR'S
REPORT VALIDATES,
UM, WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING FOR
YEARS,
THAT WE CAN'T JUST BE SHOVELING
MONEY
AT A PROBLEM WITHOUT KNOWING
IF WE'RE SPENDING THE MONEY
WISELY
IN THE MOST COST EFFECTIVE WAY.
I UNDERSTAND THIS SHOULD NOT
BE A REASON FOR US TO STOP,
UH, ADDRESSING THIS CRISIS,
BUT WE NEED TO GET SMARTER IN
TERMS
OF HOW WE'RE SPENDING THE MONEY.
THANK YOU, MR.
CHAIR.
THANK YOU, MR.
MAYOR.
LET'S FINISH UP WITH MR.
FUNG.
&GT;&GT; UH, THANK YOU, MR.
CHAIR.
I WILL BE BRIEF.
UH, LET ME JUST SAY, UH, TO TO
MR.
HILL, I HEAR YOU, UH, AS SOMEONE
WHO'S
TOURED MY MY, MY MY TRIBAL,
UH, AREAS IN MY DISTRICT IN
CENTRAL VALLEY, UM,
YOU NEED ACCESS NOT ONLY TO
HOMELESSNESS FUNDING,
BUT TO ROAD FUNDING,
INFRASTRUCTURE FUNDING,
UM, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO
WATER AND HOUSING.
AND SO YOUR POINTS ARE WELL
TAKEN, AT LEAST BY ME.
AND NOW WE NEED TO GIVE OUR,
OUR,
OUR TRIBAL LEADERS ACCESS TO
FUNDS TO
ADDRESS THE SIGNIFICANT
CHALLENGES
ON IN YOUR IN YOUR COMMUNITIES,
JUST AS WELL AS EVERY OTHER
COMMUNITY
ACROSS THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
UM, LET ME ALSO SPEAK TO THE,
UM, TO THE DATA PIECE.
UH, I WAS I PARTICIPATED IN A
HOMELESSNESS
FIELD HEARING IN SAN FRANCISCO,
UH, SIX YEARS AGO, A SIX OR PLUS
YEARS AGO WHEN I FIRST,
UH, CAME INTO THE LEGISLATURE
EIGHT YEARS AGO,
UH, WE HAD A HEARING, UH, THREE
YEARS AGO.
UM, I KNOW THE CHAIR OF BUDGET
WAS
INSTRUMENTAL IN THE DATA PIECE,
AND, UM, I PARTICIPATED IN A
POINT IN TIME COUNTS.
I HAVE ADVOCATED FOR A
CONSOLIDATION OF, UH,
HDIS AND HMAS AND THE FACT THAT
THERE ARE
TRIBAL ENTITIES THAT DON'T
PARTICIPATE AND SEND
THEIR DATA INTO, UM, INTO YOUR
SYSTEM.
AND THE FACT THAT THERE'S 44
ENTITIES STATEWIDE,
BUT THERE ARE PROBABLY MORE
COUNTY AND CITY
ENTITIES THAT NEED TO
PARTICIPATE.
IT'S VERY TROUBLING TO ME THAT
WE CANNOT HAVE
REAL TIME DATA WHEN EVERYONE
COLLECTS IT.
OUT OF THE FUNDING THAT IS
PROVIDED
BY THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
EVERY SINGLE ENTITY COCK COUNTY,
CITY,
TRIBAL ENTITY IS REQUIRED TO
PROVIDE DATA,
AND THE FACT THAT IT TAKES FIVE
YEARS TO
CONSOLIDATE DATA TO PUT INTO A
DATABASE,
AND AS WELL AS TO PROVIDE
INFORMATION AND DATA
AND RESULTS TO US AND WHETHER
THE FUNDING IS WORKING.
I MEAN, IT'S NOT EVEN YOU GUYS
AREN'T EVEN PROVIDING EXCUSES.
IT'S JUST A FAILURE.
OF WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.
OVER THE EIGHT YEARS I'VE BEEN
IN LEGISLATURE,
WE'VE BEEN ASKING FOR DATA NOT
ONLY TO SPEND MORE.
I MEAN, LOOK, THE STATE DOESN'T
DO VERY WELL
WHEN IT COMES TO IT PROJECTS,
CLEARLY.
BUT IN THIS PIECE, EVERY
BIPARTISAN,
EVERY REPUBLICAN, DEMOCRAT,
LOCAL ENTITIES HAVE BEEN ASKING
FOR MORE DATA TO
TO INFORM US ON HOW WE SPEND OUR
RESOURCES.
AND SO THE FACT THAT YOU'RE
ASKING FOR
EVEN MORE MONEY TO DO A DATA
PIECE,
WHEN WE PROVIDED YOU WITH
BILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
AND THE CALL FOR DATA IS NOT
JUST THIS YEAR,
IT'S BEEN HAPPENING YEAR OVER
YEAR OVER YEAR.
SO THE ONLY PREDICTOR OF FUTURE
BEHAVIOR
IS PAST BEHAVIOR TO ME.
AND SO UNLESS YOU DEMONSTRATE
SOME ABILITY TO ACTUALLY
PRODUCE SOMETHING THIS IS A VERY
TROUBLING TREND.
AND SO MY ONLY QUESTION IS IS
THAT IN 2023,
THE GOVERNOR CAME OUT AND SAID
THAT
HIS GOAL WAS 15% REDUCTION IN
THE STATE'S
UNHOUSED POPULATION BY 2025.
NOW, IS THAT STILL THE GOAL AND
DO
WE HAVE THE DATA TO BACK THAT
UP?
I'LL SPEAK FIRST.
THE GOAL HAS NOT CHANGED.
I THINK WE'VE SEEN AN INCREASE,
AS YOU'VE HEARD
FROM PANELISTS THROUGHOUT THIS
HEARING.
THE INCREASE HAS BEEN DRAMATIC
AND SO
DRAMATIC THAT IT WAS NOT
EXPECTED.
OBVIOUSLY, WITH THE BILLIONS
OF DOLLARS THAT THAT HAVE
GONE OUT TO SUPPORT HEP FIVE IS
AN OPPORTUNITY
FOR US TO EXPAND WHAT IT MEANS
TO PREVENT
SOMEBODY FROM ENTERING INTO
HOMELESSNESS.
THE DEFINITION OF SOMEONE WHO'S
AT RISK OF
HOMELESS HAS CHANGED WITH WITH
HAP FIVE.
UM, AND SO I DO BELIEVE THIS IS
SOMETHING THAT THAT WILL UM,
WE'LL SEE OVER THE LIFE OF HAP
FIVE CONTRIBUTE
TO THE ENTRY NEW ENTRIES INTO
HOMELESSNESS.
AS FAR AS THE DATA IS CONCERNED,
WE KNOW FROM EACH EACH OF OUR
CONTINUUMS OF CARE,
UM, CHANGES IN THEIR POINT IN
TIME
COUNT NUMBERS WE HAVE SEEN.
I WILL I'LL HIGHLIGHT MONTEREY
COUNTY.
MONTEREY COUNTY HAD A HAS HAD
A 10% REDUCTION IN UNSHELTERED
HOMELESSNESS UM IN THE IN THE
LAST TWO YEARS,
WHICH IS TREMENDOUS FOR A
COMMUNITY OF ITS SIZE.
SO THAT THE DATA DOES EXIST, UH,
TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO THOSE
REDUCTIONS.
&GT;&GT; LET ME JUST MY LAST
POINT.
UM, AS SOMEONE WHO'S
PARTICIPATED
IN THE POINT IN TIME COUNT,
I BELIEVE THAT THAT'S THE THAT'S
PROBABLY THE MOST,
UM, THE LACK OF A DESCRIPTION.
IT'S NOT A GOOD WAY OF COUNTING.
AND THIS IS WHY WE PUSHED.
THAT'S WHY THE LEGISLATURE
PUSHED US AS
A STATE TO GO TO THE HDMIS OR
GIS.
HMMIS SYSTEM IS THAT YOU HAD AN
ONGOING
COUNT THAT YOU HAD A REAL TIME,
UH, COUNT WHEN SOMEONE ENTERED
INTO THE HOMELESSNESS SPACE,
WHEN THERE WAS A NONPROFIT OR
ORGANIZATION OR
A COC THAT INTERACTED WITH AN
INDIVIDUAL,
WHEN A HOSPITAL INTERACTED WITH
INDIVIDUAL,
THAT THAT INDIVIDUAL WOULD BE
PUT INTO A SYSTEM
THAT WE COULD BY NAME KNOW WHY
THEY WENT TO
HOMELESSNESS AND WHAT SERVICES
THEY NEED.
AS SOMEONE WHO'S PARTICIPATED IN
A POINT IN
TIME COUNT THAT YOU WANT ME TO
ALLOCATE
BILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON A FOUR
HOUR COUNT
STARTING AT 6 OR 5:00 IN THE
MORNING,
AND THAT WE'RE GOING TO ALLOCATE
BILLIONS OF
DOLLARS ON THAT COUNT ONE TIME,
ONE DAY.
THAT IS THE WORST WAY TO COUNT.
AND THE FACT THAT WE'RE USING
DATA LIKE THAT TO ALLOCATE
BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN THE STATE
IS A TRAVESTY.
AND SO UNTIL WE GET THE DATA
RIGHT,
I WOULD HOPE THAT THERE WOULD BE
A SENSE
OF URGENCY TO USE MY TERM FROM
MY
COLLEAGUE AND FROM SAN
FRANCISCO,
IS THAT WE GOT TO GET THE DATA
RIGHT AND THAT
WE ACTUALLY DON'T EVEN HAVE TO
CREATE DATA.
WE HAVE ENTITIES ACROSS THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA
THAT ALREADY ARE COLLECTING
DATA.
WE'RE ASKING YOU TO AGGREGATE
THE DATA.
NOT TO CREATE A WHOLE BRAND NEW
SYSTEM.
WE'RE ASKING YOU TO AGGREGATE
THE DATA
THAT'S ALREADY BEING COLLECTED
SO THAT WE CAN ALLOCATE THE
MONEY AND SHOW RESULTS.
WHICH THE PUBLIC DEMANDS.
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, MR.
FONG.
UH, I'D LIKE TO CONCLUDE BY
THANKING
OUR WITNESSES AND PANELISTS AND,
OF COURSE, OUR COMMITTEE
MEMBERS.
UH, I CAN'T RECALL THE LAST TIME
I SAT IN ON
A HEARING OR A VIEWED A HEARING
WHERE EVERY
MEMBER ON THE COMMITTEE WANTED
TO PROVIDE
SOME SORT OF FEEDBACK OR ASK
QUESTIONS.
I THINK THAT IS A TESTAMENT TO
THE URGENCY
TO THE NEED TO ADDRESS THIS
ISSUE NOW.
UH, TO REITERATE WHAT WE
DISCUSSED, SPEED,
EFFICIENCY, UH, RESPONSIBILITY,
THE COLLABORATION COMPONENT IS
GOING
TO BE KEY BETWEEN OUR TRIBES,
UH, BETWEEN OUR LOCAL, THE
COUNTY,
THE STATE, AND OF COURSE, THE
STATE DEPARTMENTS
TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY
ADDRESSING THE ISSUE NOW AND NOT
KICKING
THIS CAN DOWN THE ROAD ANY
FURTHER.
UH, THE BUDGET COMMITTEE LOOKS
FORWARD TO RECEIVING
THE GOVERNOR'S BUDGET, MAY
REVISE,
AND WILL EVALUATE ANY PROPOSED
ACTIONS TO ESTABLISH GREATER
ACCOUNTABILITY MEASURES FOR
HOMELESSNESS PROGRAMS,
AND EQUALLY IMPORTANT MEASURES
TO PROVIDE GREATER
TRANSPARENCY WITH THE
LEGISLATURE.
AND, OF COURSE, MOST
IMPORTANTLY,
THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC.
WITH THAT, CONVERSATIONS ARE TO
BE CONTINUED
AND THIS HEARING IS ADJOURNED.
THANK YOU ALL.
&GT;&GT; THANK YOU.