HELLO, EVERYONE. GOOD MORNING.
WELCOME TO THE JUNE 19TH, 2024
ASSEMBLY APPROPRIATIONS
COMMITTEE HEARING. WE HAVE 36
BILLS TO CONSIDER THIS MORNING
AS PART OF OUR REGULAR ORDER
HEARING, BEFORE WE BEGIN, I HAVE
A FEW HOUSEKEEPING NOTES TO
COVER. FIRST, I'D LIKE TO THANK
ASSEMBLY MEMBER MARC BERMAN FOR
FILLING IN FOR. I DON'T KNOW WHY
MY MIC WENT OFF. I WANT TO THANK
SOME MEMBER, MARK BERMAN FOR
FILLING IN FOR ASSEMBLY MEMBER
WENDY CARILLO AND ASSEMBLY
MEMBER AGUIAR-CURRY FOR FILLING
IN FOR SOME MEMBER. VÆ.
VALLAPUDUA ON THE COMMITTEE
TODAY. WE ENCOURAGE THE PUBLIC
TO PROVIDE WRITTEN TESTIMONY
BEFORE THE HEARING BY VISITING
THE COMMITTEE WEBSITES AT APPRO
ASSEMBLY.GOV. PLEASE NOTE THAT
ANY WRITTEN TESTIMONY SUBMITTED
TO THE COMMITTEE IS CONSIDERED
PUBLIC COMMENT AND MAY BE READ
INTO THE RECORD OR REPRINTED.
THE HEARING ROOM IS OPEN FOR
ATTENDANCE. ALL ARE ENCOURAGED
TO WATCH THE HEARING FROM ITS
LIVE STREAM ON THE ASSEMBLY
WEBSITE TODAY. ASSEMBLY CA.GOV
FORWARD SLASH TODAY'S EVENTS. WE
ENCOURAGE THE PUBLIC TO MONITOR
THE COMMITTEE'S WEBSITE FOR
UPDATES. WE WILL ACCEPT PUBLIC
COMMENT ON ANY BILL PLACED ON
THE SUSPENSE FILE BY THE
COMMITTEE TODAY, AND FOR WHICH
THE AUTHOR WAVE PRESENTATION
BEFORE THE CLOSE OF THE REGULAR
ORDER HEARING. TESTIMONY ON ANY
SUCH BILL WILL BE LIMITED TO A
STATEMENT OF NAME, ORGANIZATION,
IF ANY, AND POSITION ON THE
BILL, THE COMMITTEE WILL ALLOW
NO MORE THAN 40 MINUTES OF
TESTIMONY IN TOTAL AS YOU CAME
INTO THE HEARING ROOM TODAY, THE
SERGEANTS DIRECTED YOUR
ATTENTION TO THE RULES FOR
PUBLIC ATTENDANCE AND
PARTICIPATION, WHICH WERE POSTED
OUTSIDE THE DOOR. I ENCOURAGE
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO ARE IN
ATTENDANCE TO BE AWARE OF AND
OBSERVE THOSE RULES. PLEASE BE
AWARE THAT VIOLATIONS OF THESE
RULES OR OTHER VIOLATIONS OF
GENERAL COURTESY OR DECORUM, MAY
SUBJECT YOU TO REMOVAL OR OTHER
ENFORCEMENT PROCESSES. WITH
THAT, I'D LIKE TO ESTABLISH A
QUORUM IF ONE IS PRESENT, MADAM
SECRETARY IS A QUORUM OF THE
MEMBERS PRESENT. WICKS HERE.
PRESENT. SANCHEZ IS SANCHEZ
PRESENT? ARAMBULA ARAMBULA.
PRESENT. BRIAN BRIAN. PRESENT.
KALDIRIM CALDERON. PRESENT.
BERMAN PRESENT. BERMAN. PRESENT.
DIXON DIXON. PRESENT. MIKE.
FONG. GRAYSON HANEY. HANEY.
PRESENT. HOT JIM. PATTERSON
PELLERIN TO PRESENT.
AGUIAR-CURRY. WE HAVE A QUORUM.
OKAY WE WILL START WITH OUR
SPECIAL ORDER OF BUSINESS, FIRST
UP IS SENATOR WIENER TO PRESENT
SB 905.
PLEASE BEGIN. YES. THANK YOU,
MADAM CHAIR, COLLEAGUES, I'M
HERE TODAY TO PRESENT, SENATE
BILL 905, WHICH WILL, FIRST AND
FOREMOST, CLOSE THE LOCKED DOOR
LOOPHOLE, WHICH I'VE BEEN TRYING
TO GET THIS PASSED SINCE 2018.
WHICH IS A NONSENSICAL BARRIER
TO HOLDING AUTO BURGLARS
ACCOUNTABLE UNDER EXISTING LAW,
IT'S NOT SUFFICIENT TO PROVE
THAT SOMEONE BROKE INTO A CAR,
YOU HAVE TO ALSO PROVE THAT THE
DOORS WERE ALL, LOCKED. EVEN IF
YOU HAVE DEFINITIVE PROOF THAT
THEY BROKE IN, AND SO THAT MEANS
THAT VICTIMS ARE ASKED TO
TESTIFY THAT THEIR VEHICLE WAS
LOCKED. THEY MAY NOT REMEMBER.
OR IF SOMEONE WAS VISITING, SAY,
IN USING A RENTAL CAR, THEY MAY
NOW BE 3000 MILES AWAY, AND
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO FLY BACK,
TO COME INTO COURT TO TESTIFY
THAT THEY LOCKED THEIR DOORS,
SO, THIS BILL CLOSES THAT
LOOPHOLE, AND THAT'S SECTION ONE
OF THE BILL. SECTION TWO, WILL
ADDRESS THE PROBLEM OF ORGANIZED
RESALE OF GOODS STOLEN FROM CARS
, WE KNOW THAT AUTO BURGLARS
OFTEN SEEK VALUABLE ITEMS FROM
CARS SUCH AS LAPTOPS, CAMERAS,
CELL PHONES, ETC. AND THEN
RESELL THEM UNDER SB 905,
INDIVIDUALS CAN BE PROSECUTED
FOR HOLDING MORE THAN $950 OF
STOLEN GOODS INTENDED FOR RESALE
, WHETHER THE GOODS WERE STOLEN
IN ONE OR MULTIPLE INCIDENTS.
THIS IS PART OF THE SENATE'S,
WORKING TOGETHER FOR A SAFER
CALIFORNIA PACKAGE. AND WE
APPRECIATE THE COLLABORATION
WITH THE ASSEMBLY, AND I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN AYE
VOTE. WE HAVE A MOTION A SECOND,
OR WE HAVE A MOTION. WE DO HAVE
A SECOND. WE HAVE A SECOND, BUT
LET'S BEFORE WE, WE'LL GET TO
ALL OF IT. BUT I WANT TO JUST
WALK THROUGH THE, IF WE HAVE ANY
IF FOLKS THAT WISH TO TESTIFY IN
SUPPORT. PLEASE, NAME
ORGANIZATION AND POSITION,
PLEASE, RYAN LANE, ON BEHALF OF
THE CALIFORNIA RETAILERS
ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT.
DILLONLIAM ON BEHALF OF THE
MAYOR OF SAN FRANCISCO, LONDON
BREED, AS WELL AS THE SAN
FRANCISCO BOARD OF SUPERVISORS
IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU. GOOD
MORNING, MADAM CHAIR CORY
SALZILLO, ON BEHALF OF THE
CALIFORNIA STATE SHERIFFS
ASSOCIATION. WE'RE IN SUPPORT OF
THE BILL. IF IT'S NOT AMENDED
PURSUANT TO THE ANALYSIS
REGARDING THE INOPERABILITY
CLAUSE. IF SO, AMENDED, WE WOULD
REMOVE OUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
DO WE HAVE ANY WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION OR FOLKS WOULD LIKE
TO REGISTER THEIR OPPOSITION?
AND SENATOR, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY
PRIMARY WITNESSES. CORRECT OKAY.
AND DO YOU ACCEPT THE COMMITTEE
AMENDMENTS? YES. YES OKAY.
GREAT. OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION
BY MR. BERMAN AND DO WE HAVE A
SECOND BY MR. HANEY AND MADAM
VICE CHAIR, YOU WANTED TO. YEAH
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A SUBSTITUTE
MOTION TO MOVE THE BILL. Dð PASS
THE FLOOR AS CURRENTLY IN PRINT
WITHOUT THE AMENDMENTS. SO WE
HAVE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION BY MISS
SANCHEZ TO MOVE THE BILL AS Dð
PASS, AND WE HAVE A SECOND TO
THAT AS WELL. THE CHAIR IS
ASKING FOR A NO VOTE, AND THE
VICE CHAIR, MISS SANCHEZ, IS
ASKING FOR AN AYE VOTE ON THE
SUBSTITUTE MOTION. SO LET'S TAKE
ROLL CALL ON THAT. WE'RE VOTING
ON THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION AND THE
CHAIR IS ASKING FOR AN AYE VOTE.
AND THE VICE CHAIR IS ASKING FOR
A NO. SORRY. THE LET ME REPEAT
THAT SOME EXTRA CLEAR THAT THE
CHAIR IS ASKING FOR A NO VOTE,
AND THE VICE CHAIR IS ASKING FOR
AN AYE VOTE WHEN DO WE HAVE
MEMBER COMMENTS? CAN WE HAVE
MEMBER COMMENTS BEFORE AFTER THE
MOTION. AFTER THE MOTION GOT IT.
ON THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION. WICKS.
NÓ. WICKS. NÓ. SANCHEZ MS.
SANCHEZ. AYE. ARAMBULA ARAMBULA.
NO. BRIAN. NO. BRIAN NO.
CALDERON. NO. CALDERON. NO.
BERMAN NO. BERMAN. NO. DIXON.
DIXON DIXON. AYE. MIKE FONG.
GRAYSON. THIS IS ON THE
SUBSTITUTE MOTION. NO GRAYSON.
IT'S THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION. THE
CHAIR IS ASKING FOR A NO.
GRAYSON GRAYSON. NO! HANEY
HANEY. NO! HOT JIM PATTERSON.
JIM. PATTERSON. AYE. PELLERIN.
PARLOR NO. TO. TO AYE.
AGUIAR-CURRY AGUIAR-CURRY. NO.
MOTION. THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION
FAILS, BEFORE WE GET TO THE, THE
ORIGINAL MOTION, THE DO PASS, AS
AMENDED. I THINK WE HAVE SOME
QUESTIONS FROM, MEMBERS TO THE
AUTHOR, MISS VICE CHAIR, WOULD
YOU LIKE TO OR. SORRY, WHO WAS?
OH, MISS DIXON, ALL RIGHT, GOOD
MORNING, SENATOR. I THINK THIS
IS AN EXCELLENT BILL WITHOUT
AMENDMENTS, AND I WOULD BE
STRONGLY IN FAVOR OF IT. I THINK
IT'S, REALLY IMPORTANT. I SAW IN
MY OWN COMMUNITY WHEN I WAS ON
OUR CITY COUNCIL, THE
INADVERTENT UNLOCKING OF DOORS
FOR PEOPLE JUST FORGOT TO LOCK
THEIR CAR DOORS AND, AND THEN IF
SOMETHING WAS STOLEN OUT OF
THAT, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT
COULD NOT, FILE ANY COMPLAINTS
ABOUT IT BECAUSE THE DOOR WAS
UNLOCKED. I THINK THIS IS AN
IMPORTANT MEASURE TO FILL THAT
GAP. AND I APPRECIATE WHAT
YOU'RE DOING. AND I WAS GOING TO
BE PLEASED TO SUPPORT IT, BUT
NOT WITH THOSE AMENDMENTS. BUT
YOU'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO THIS
FOR SEVERAL YEARS. SOMEBODY'S
BEEN TRYING TO. THIS IS ABOUT
THE FIFTH TIME THIS BILL HAS
BEEN INTRODUCED. YEAH. BY ME.
YEAH OKAY. SO I WOULD BE
STRONGLY SUPPORTIVE. I'M SORRY
THAT YOU'RE PUTTING THAT
AMENDMENT ON IT AND I CAN'T
SUPPORT IT. SO I WISH THAT THAT
AMENDMENT WASN'T THERE SO I'D BE
A NO VOTE. BUT IT'S A GOOD BILL.
NOT WITH THAT AMENDMENT. THANK
YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM
COMMITTEE MEMBERS OR COMMENTS
WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE, SENATOR
. THANK YOU. I UNDERSTAND THAT
THIS BILL AND OTHER BILLS ARE
GETTING CAUGHT UP IN SOME
BIZARRE POLITICS. YOU EITHER
EITHER SUPPORT THE POLICY OR YOU
DON'T SUPPORT THE POLICY, AND I
DON'T SEE WHY AN INOPERABILITY
CLAUSE, FRANKLY, WOULD, AFFECT
THAT, WHATEVER HAPPENS WITH THE
BALLOT MEASURE IS GOING TO
HAPPEN ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
IT'S UNCLEAR TO ME WHY, PEOPLE
WOULD CHANGE THEIR POSITION ON
GOOD POLICY BASED ON THAT. BUT
THAT'S THE WAY POLITICS ROLLS
SOMETIME. AND I RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR AN AYE VOTE. THANK YOU.
SENATOR, WE'RE BACK ON THE
ORIGINAL MOTION. DO PASS AS
AMENDED, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A
SECOND. MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE
CALL THE ROLL. WICKS. HI, WICKS.
AYE. SANCHEZ. SANCHEZ. NÓ
ARAMBULA. ARAMBULA. AYE. BRIAN
CALDERON. AYE. CALDERON. AYE
BERMAN. BERMAN. AYE. DIXON
DIXON. NO. MIKE. FONG GRAYSON.
HANEY HANEY. AYE. HOT. JIM.
PATTERSON JIM. PATTERSON. NO.
PELLERIN. PELLERIN AYE. TO. TO.
NO AGUIAR-CURRY. AGUIAR-CURRY.
AYE.
HOT. HOT. AYE. 8 TO 4. THAT.
THAT MEASURE PASSES. BUT WE'LL
LEAVE IT OPEN FOR FOLKS WHO WANT
TO ADD ON. THANK YOU, SENATOR.
NEXT WE HAVE SENATOR WAHAB,
YOU'RE PRESENTING SB 982.
YOU CAN BEGIN. THANK YOU. CHAIR
AND MEMBERS, SB 982 SIMPLY
ELIMINATES THE JANUARY FIRST,
2026 SUNSET TO SUSTAIN THE CRIME
OF ORGANIZED RETAIL THEFT. THIS
BILL IS PART OF THE SENATE SAFER
CALIFORNIA PLAN. AND GOVERNOR
NEWSOM'S RETAIL THEFT PACKAGE.
THIS PACKAGE IS COMPRISED OF
EVIDENCE BASED WAYS TO ADDRESS A
NUMBER OF DIFFERENT ISSUES AND
BILLS COMBATING RETAIL THEFT
THROUGH CRIME PREVENTION AND
ENHANCED TOOLS FOR LAW
ENFORCEMENT. THIS BILL WILL COST
A FEW MILLION DOLLARS ONGOING TO
CONTINUE ITS EXISTENCE. EXISTING
OPERATIONS. IN RETURN, SB 982
WILL ALLOW FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT
AND PROSECUTORS TO PROTECT OUR
BUSINESSES AND SAVE MILLIONS OF
DOLLARS EACH YEAR IN THEFT.
EARLIER THIS YEAR, ATTORNEY
GENERAL ROB BONTA ANNOUNCED
CHARGES AGAINST A RINGLEADER OF
AN ORGANIZED RETAIL CRIME SCHEME
THAT SPANNED 21 COUNTIES ACROSS
THE STATE AND INVOLVED AN
ESTIMATED $8 MILLION WORTH OF
LOSSES. THIS BILL WILL KEEP OUR
COMMUNITIES SAFE AND PROTECT OUR
BUSINESSES AT A LOW COST TO THE
STATE. WITH ME TODAY TESTIFYING
IN SUPPORT IS RYAN ELAINE,
DIRECTOR OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS
FOR THE CALIFORNIA RETAILERS
ASSOCIATION. THANK YOU. SENATOR,
CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE,
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO
TESTIFY TODAY IN SUPPORT OF SB
982. AS MENTIONED, MY NAME IS
RYAN ELAINE, DIRECTOR OF
GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS OF CALIFORNIA
RETAILERS ASSOCIATION, THE
ORGANIZED RETAIL THEFT STATUTE
HAS BEEN AN EFFECTIVE TOOL IN
COMBATING ORGANIZED RETAIL
CRIME. ALSO, THIS POLICY, THE
ENFORCEMENT OF THIS POLICY HAS
BEEN PRIORITIZED AND BUDGETS OF
RECENT YEARS THROUGH THE FUNDING
OF THE CALIFORNIA HIGHWAY
PATROL, ORGANIZED RETAIL THEFT
TASK FORCE AND THROUGH LOCAL
GRANTS. THIS STATUTE HAS
RESULTED IN MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR
CASES BEING PROSECUTED AND
ORGANIZED CRIME RINGS BEING
DISMANTLED. THESE ARE ORGANIZED
CRIME RINGS THAT UTILIZE
STEALING FROM RETAILERS TO FUND
OTHER CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES.
RETAILERS, RETAIL EMPLOYEES AND
CUSTOMERS ARE EXPERIENCING
RETAIL THEFT DAILY, AND
CALIFORNIANS ARE DEMANDING THAT
POLICYMAKERS TAKE THIS ISSUE
SERIOUSLY. AND BY ELIMINATING
THE SUNSET ON THE ORGANIZED
RETAIL THEFT STATUTE, CRIMINALS
WILL KNOW THEIR COORDINATED
ACTIVITY WILL NOT BE TOLERATED.
BY PASSING SB 982, THIS
COMMITTEE IS SETTING AN EXAMPLE
THAT ORGANIZED RETAIL CRIME
RINGS HAVE NO PLACE IN
CALIFORNIA RETAIL STORES, AND
THE PRIORITY OF THE STATE IS TO
ENSURE RETAIL EMPLOYEES, RETAIL
CUSTOMERS AND THE NEIGHBORHOODS
WE OPERATE IN ARE FREE FROM THIS
ORGANIZED CRIMINAL ACTIVITY. I
JUST WANT TO GIVE A FEW EXAMPLES
OF JUST RECENTLY OF A FEW
COUNTIES THAT HAVE USED THIS.
THE PLACER COUNTY DISTRICT
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE RECENTLY FILED
CHARGES AGAINST A MAN ACCUSED OF
STEALING $17,000 WORTH OF
MERCHANDISE, WITH THE CHARGES
INCLUDING ORGANIZED RETAIL
THEFT. SAME WITH THE LA COUNTY
SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. THE
ORGANIZED RETAIL CRIME TASK
FORCE ARRESTED EIGHT SUSPECTS
LAST MONTH, AND THEN SAME WITH
THE SAN FRANCISCO DISTRICT
ATTORNEY CHARGED AN INDIVIDUAL
AMONG OTHER THINGS, WITH SEVEN
COUNTS OF ORGANIZED RETAIL
THEFT. I ASK FOR YOUR VOTE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ARE THERE ADDITIONAL FOLKS IN
THE ROOM WISH TO EXPRESS SUPPORT
? GOOD MORNING, DEVON ANDERSON
WITH POLITICAL SOLUTIONS ON
BEHALF OF TARGET AND SUPPORT.
ANY FOLKS WISH TO EXPRESS
OPPOSITION OR ANY TWEENERS.
OKAY. WE WILL WE WILL BRING IT
BACK TO THE COMMITTEE, DO WE
HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE AUTHOR
AND SORRY, DO YOU ACCEPT THE
AMENDMENTS? I FULLY ACCEPT THE
AMENDMENTS. THANK YOU. I'LL ASK
A QUESTION, WE HAVE A QUESTION
FROM MISS DIXON. OKAY, JUST TO
FOLLOW UP ON MY PRIOR, QUESTIONS
OR STATEMENT. SO QUESTIONS COULD
SPEAK REGARDING THOSE
AMENDMENTS, I THINK YOUR BILL IS
A GREAT BILL, BUT WITH THOSE
AMENDMENTS, WHAT DO THE
AMENDMENTS DO THAT STRENGTHENS
THE BILL? BECAUSE THE INITIATIVE
, THIS DOES NOT DUPLICATE ANY
PROVISIONS. IN THE INITIATIVE.
SO IT WOULD BE, EXCELLENT IF
WE'RE, PASSED, BUT WITHOUT THE
AMENDMENTS, THAT COMPROMISES THE
BILL, IN MY OPINION. SO WHAT DO
THE AMENDMENTS DO FOR YOUR BILL?
DEFINITELY THE AMENDMENTS ARE
SPECIFICALLY TO MAKE THE, BILL
AND PRINT HAPPEN TODAY BASICALLY
EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY, IF
POSSIBLE, WITH THE GOVERNOR'S,
OBVIOUSLY APPROVAL, AND
OBVIOUSLY, IF THE INITIATIVE
MOVES FORWARD, THIS BILL WOULD
BE VOID. BUT THE INITIATIVE DOES
NOT CONTAIN THOSE, THAT
PROVISIONS OF YOUR BILL, SO
YOU'RE PUTTING THAT AT RISK. I
THINK THAT PERSONALLY,
LEGISLATION IS THE BEST WAY TO
MAKE A BALANCED APPROACH IN
POLICY. WE HEAR FROM ALL
STAKEHOLDERS. WE CLEARLY HEAR
FROM OUR CALIFORNIA RETAILERS
ASSOCIATION, AS WELL AS MANY
PEOPLE IN SUPPORT IN IN REGARDS
TO BUSINESS COMMUNITIES, LAW
ENFORCEMENT AND MUCH MORE. SO
THERE'S DIFFERENT WAYS TO GO
ABOUT GOOD SOUND POLICY. AND
THIS WOULD BE THE CHEAPEST WAY
FOR TAXPAYERS. WELL, 900,000
TAXPAYERS SUPPORTED PUTTING THIS
BALLOT BEFORE THEM. SO THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE
SENATOR? DO WE HAVE A MOTION? WE
HAVE A SECOND. WE HAVE A
SUBSTITUTE MOTION HERE, I
BELIEVE, FROM THE VICE CHAIR.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A SUBSTITUTE
MOTION TO MOVE THE BILL. Dð PASS
TO THE FLOOR AS CURRENTLY IN
PRINT WITHOUT AMENDS. WE HAVE A
SUBSTITUTE MOTION BY MISS
SANCHEZ TO MOVE THE BILL AS A Dð
PASS. AND THERE'S A SECOND BY
MISS MISS DIXON, MEMBERS, THE
CHAIR IS ASKING FOR A NO ON
THAT, AND THE VICE CHAIR IS
ASKING FOR AN EYE ON THAT. MADAM
SECRETARY, ON THE SUBSTITUTE
MOTION IS Dð PASS. WICKS. NO.
WICKS. NO SEN. SANCHEZ I
ARAMBULA ARAMBULA. NO. BRIAN.
BRIAN NO. CALDERON. NO.
CALDERON. NO. BERMAN BERMAN. NO.
DIXON. DIXON. I. MIKE FONG.
GRAYSON HANEY. HANEY. NO. HOT.
HOT. NO JIM. PATTERSON, JIM.
PATTERSON I. PELLERIN PELLERIN.
NO. TARR T I. AGUIAR-CURRY.
AGUIAR-CURRY. NO. THAT MOTION
FAILS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE?
I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN AYE
VOTE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
MEMBERS, WE'RE BACK TO THE
ORIGINAL MOTION OF Dð PASS, AS
AMENDED, AND WE HAVE A MOTION
AND A SECOND. MADAM SECRETARY,
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. WICKS.
AYE. WICKS. AYE. SANCHEZ
SANCHEZ. NÓ. ARAMBULA. ARAMBULA
AYE. BRIAN BRIAN. NOT VOTING.
CALDERON I CALDERON. OAN I
BERMAN. BERMAN I DIXON. DIXON.
NO. MIKE. FONG I GRAYSON. HANEY.
HANEY I HOT HOT I JIM PATTERSON.
JIM. PATTERSON. NO. PELLERIN.
PELLERIN I TO NO. AGUILAR CURRY.
AGUILAR. CURRY I. EIGHT TO 8 TO
4. THAT IS OUT. AND WE'LL ALLOW
MEMBERS TO ADD ON. THANK YOU.
NEXT WE HAVE SENATOR SKINNER. MY
SENATOR SENATOR SKINNER I'M
BIASED I THINK SHE'S THE BEST.
YOU MAY BEGIN WHEN YOU'RE READY.
AND IF YOU COULD ALSO START BY
ANNOUNCING. IF YOU ACCEPT THE
COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS OR NOT,
THAT'D BE GREAT. OH, AND TURN
THE MIC ON TO THE IDEA. THERE WE
GO, THANK YOU, CHAIR AND
MEMBERS, I'M PRESENTING SB 1144,
AND YES, I WILL START WITH THAT.
I AM TAKING THE COMMITTEE'S
AMENDMENTS, WHICH ARE SOME
TECHNICAL CHANGES TO THE BILL,
AND ALSO THE COMMITTEE
AMENDMENTS THAT ADD AN URGENCY
CLAUSE AND AN OPERATIVE CLAUSE.
IF THE HOMELESSNESS, DRUG
ADDICTION AND THEFT REDUCTION
ACT IS APPROVED BY VOTERS IN THE
STATEWIDE GENERAL ELECTION. NOW
TO THE CONTENT OF THE BILL IN
2022, I AUTHORED SB 301, WHICH
CREATED REGULATIONS FOR ONLINE
MARKETPLACES. NOW, WHY DID I DO
THAT? WHERE DO A LOT OF US BUY
OUR GOODS? WE DON'T GO TO BRICK
AND MORTAR STORES AS MUCH
ANYMORE. WE BUY ONLINE. SO IF
YOU'RE SOMEBODY WHO IS,
ORGANIZED RETAIL THEFT, RING
STEALING, A LOT OF GOODS AND YOU
GOT TO UNLOAD THEM, WHERE ARE
YOU SELLING THEM? YOU'RE NOT
SELLING THEM DOWN ON THE CORNER.
YOU'RE NOT SELLING THEM OUT OF
THE TRUNK OF A CAR. YOU'RE
SELLING THEM ONLINE. SO THE WAY
TO PROTECT OUR RETAILERS FROM
THIS, THIS RISE IN RETAIL THEFT
IS TO DEAL WITH BOTH THE PLACE
WHERE THE GOODS ARE BEING
UNLOADED, AND THAT'S ONLINE. SO
WHAT SB 301 DID. THE ORIGINAL
BILL IS THAT IT REQUIRED, OUR,
MARKETPLACES TO VERIFY THE
LEGALITY OF THEIR HIGH VOLUME
SELLERS. THOSE SELLERS HAD TO
HAVE A BANK ACCOUNT, A BUSINESS
ID, A TAX ID, AND, SURE, THERE
ARE SOME VERY CLEVER THIEVES WHO
WILL GO TO ALL THE TROUBLE OF
MAKING THEMSELVES LOOK
LEGITIMATE. BUT BY AND LARGE,
MOST OF THESE OPERATIONS DON'T
WANT TO LOOK LEGITIMATE. SO THEN
THEY STOPPED USING THOSE. OR
WHEN THEY DID, AT LEAST OUR LAW
ENFORCEMENT WAS ABLE TO TRACK
THEM DOWN. AND WE HAVE NOW SEEN
AND THE REPORT JUST CAME OUT
FROM THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE
YESTERDAY OF THE AMOUNT OF GOODS
WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO BOTH RECOVER
AND PROSECUTIONS, WE'VE
SUCCESSFULLY DONE, BECAUSE WE'VE
BEEN ABLE TO TRACK DOWN THESE
SELLERS. NOW, WHAT SOME OF THESE
SELLERS HAVE DONE, BECAUSE
THEY'RE GOING TO BE CAUGHT
BECAUSE OF SB 301 THEY'RE USING
NOW ONLINE MARKETPLACES WHERE
THEY DON'T DO THE EXACT TRANSFER
ACTION. THEY ADVERTISE THE GOOD
IN EFFECT, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE
THE SALE TAKE PLACE ON THE SITE.
THAT WAY THEY DON'T HAVE TO SHOW
THEIR, WHETHER THEY'RE
LEGITIMATE THAT'S HURTING US. SO
THE NEW BILL BEFORE YOU TODAY,
SB 1144, REQUIRES THOSE
MARKETPLACES, THE INTERNET
ENTITIES, TO FOR THEIR HIGH
VOLUME SELLERS. AND THESE ARE
SELLERS WHO DO OVER 200
INDIVIDUAL TRANSACTIONS. THAT'S
NOT 200 GOODS, BUT 200
INDIVIDUAL TRANSACTIONS IN A
GIVEN YEAR THAT THEY WOULD HAVE
TO SHOW THIS LEGITIMATE
INFORMATION IN THE SAME WAY THAT
SB 301 DID. THAT IS WHAT WE NEED
TO BE ABLE TO PROSECUTE THESE
ORGANIZED THEFT RINGS. AND TO
GET THIS UNDER CONTROL. IT HAD
WORKED VERY WELL UNDER THE
ORIGINAL BILL, AND SO WE'RE
EXTENDING IT TO WITH THIS BILL
TO THOSE, TO GET GET AROUND
LOOPHOLES. SO WITH THAT, I'D
LIKE TO HAVE MY, WITNESS IN
SUPPORT. RYAN ALLEN FROM THE
CALIFORNIA RETAILERS ASSOCIATION
. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SENATOR
SKINNER, AS MENTIONED, RIGHT
ALONG WITH THE CALIFORNIA
RETAILERS ASSOCIATION. OAN, I
JUST WANT TO STATE THAT WE'VE
WORKED ON THIS POLICY WITH THE
SENATOR AND YEARS PAST WITH HER
ORIGINAL SB 301, AND WE'RE VERY
HAPPY TO WORK WITH HER AGAIN
THIS YEAR. THERE WERE A LOT OF
CONVERSATIONS, ABLE TO COME OUT
AND FULL SUPPORT OF THIS
IMPORTANT ISSUE, WE'VE SEEN IN
THE PAST THAT FOLKS, WHENEVER
THEY WOULD RESALE OR FENCE
STOLEN GOODS THAT OFTEN DO IT IN
PUBLIC SPACES ON THE STREET AND
VARIOUS OTHER AREAS. BUT GIVEN
THE RISE IN TECHNOLOGY, WE'VE
SEEN THAT HAPPEN ONLINE MORE AND
MORE, IT'S BECOME A VERY LOW
RISK, HIGH REWARD, SCHEME. AND
WE DO SEE THAT THE THERE ARE A
LOT OF GOOD ACTORS IN THE ONLINE
MARKETPLACE ARENA, BUT THIS DOES
FIX SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN
UTILIZED BY FOLKS WITH STOLEN
GOODS WHO DO THE MEET UP IN
PERSON. AND I JUST WANT TO GIVE
ONE EXAMPLE DOWN IN LA RECENTLY,
SOMEONE ORGANIZED A MEETUP
ONLINE THROUGH A SALE, THROUGH
SALE OF GOODS, AND THEN IN
PERSON ACTUALLY ROBBED THE
PEOPLE THAT THEY MET UP WITH.
THEY TARGETED THESE FOLKS ONLINE
, AND USE THIS. AND WE JUST
THINK THIS WOULD HELP DETER THAT
INSTANCE. AND AND JUST PROTECT
THE INTEGRITY OF THE ONLINE
MARKETPLACES. SO WE ASK FOR YOUR
VOTE. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE
ADDITIONAL FOLKS WISH TO EXPRESS
SUPPORT? PLEASE NAME
ORGANIZATION AND POSITION. BEN
ANDERSON WITH POLITICAL
SOLUTIONS ON BEHALF OF TARGET
AND THE HOME DEPOT AND SUPPORT.
GOOD MORNING GLENN BACCHUS FOR
PROSECUTORS. ALLIANCE ACTION
PROUD SPONSOR OF SB 1144. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY,
WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION? ANY
ADDITIONAL FOLKS IN THE ROOM
WISH TO EXPRESS OPPOSITION? WE
WILL BRING IT BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE. ANY QUESTIONS FROM
MEMBERS? MR. TO SENATOR, I
REALLY APPRECIATE THAT YOU
INTRODUCE A BILL AND ACTUALLY,
YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE THAT
YOU'RE AWARE THAT MANY, MANY LAW
ENFORCEMENT IN ARE THEY NOT
SUPPORTING AMENDMENT. SO IS
THERE ANY WAY THAT YOU CAN
EXPLAIN TO ME THAT, ANY
PROVISION THÀNH IN, IN YOUR BILL
AND YOUR AMENDMENT THAT INCLUDES
IN THE INITIATIVE OUT THERE AND
WE ARE AWARE THAT INITIATIVE
THAT THEY HAVE OVER 900,000
SIGNATURES. YEAH. THE CONTENTS
OF SB 1144 WILL DO FAR MORE TO
HELP US PROSECUTE AND END
ORGANIZED RETAIL THEFT THAN
ANYTHING IN THAT INITIATIVE. SO
THIS IS WHAT IS NEEDED TO BE
ABLE TO DEAL WITH THE PROBLEM WE
HAVE. AND LET ME GIVE YOU A
REAL, VERY CONCRETE EXAMPLE THAT
MANY OF YOU MAY HAVE READ ABOUT.
YOU MAY HAVE SEEN THE PRESS
REPORTS IT WAS ABOUT THREE
MONTHS AGO ABOUT A VERY WEALTHY
COUPLE IN SAN DIEGO WHO
LITERALLY WERE HIRING PEOPLE TO
STEAL GOODS. NOW, WHEN I SAY
HIRING, WERE THEY, FILLING OUT A
W-2 FORM? NO, BUT THEY WERE
PAYING THESE INDIVIDUALS AND
SAYING SO THE WEALTHY COUPLE
WERE THE ONES WHO HAD THE SITE
OR WERE SELLING THE GOODS ONLINE
. AND THEY, THEY HAD BUILT A
HUGE BUSINESS OUT OF THIS, AND
THEY WERE SPECIALIZING IN
COSMETICS. AND SO THEY HAD A
WHOLE CREW OF PEOPLE THAT THEY
WOULD TEXT AND SAY, OH, THIS
PERFUME IS REALLY POPULAR RIGHT
NOW, OR THIS PARTICULAR MAKEUP.
SO WE NEED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, TRY
TO GET US A GOOD WHATEVER X
NUMBER OF UNITS. AND THEY WOULD
PUT THAT OUT TO LIKE TEN
DIFFERENT PEOPLE WHO HAD HIT
DIFFERENT RETAILERS AND GET
EXACTLY WHAT THIS WEALTHY COUPLE
DEMANDED THEM TO GET. THEY WOULD
THEN PAY THEM SOME MONEY. THE
INDIVIDUALS, AND THEN TAKE THOSE
GOODS AND SELL THEM THAT THE
WHEN THEY GOT BUSTED, WHICH THEY
DID, THEY WERE FOUND TO HAVE
ALREADY EARNED OVER 8 MILLION
FROM THIS OPERATION. NOW THERE
IS NOTHING IN THAT INITIATIVE
THAT GETS AT THAT COUPLE. THIS
BILL DOES AND WOULD. THANK YOU,
SENATOR. MISS DIXON, THANK YOU,
SENATOR. YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY
CORRECT THAT IS WHY WE NEED BOTH
OF THEM. YOUR BILL. I VOTED FOR
THIS BILL AND JUDICIARY AND IN
PRIVACY LAST WEEK. I THINK IT'S
AN EXCELLENT, MEANS TO ADDRESS
ONLINE RETAIL THEFT. EXCELLENT
HOWEVER, IN MY OPINION, YOU'VE
COMPROMISED YOUR OWN WISHES BY,
CUTTING, I SACRIFICING IF THE
INITIATIVE PASSES. YOU DON'T
WANT THIS LAW TO TAKE EFFECT. I
DON'T UNDERSTAND, I CAN'T EVEN
GET MY BRAIN AROUND IT. SO THE
INITIATIVE SIGNED AND SIGNATURES
OF 900,000 PEOPLE WANT THE
INITIATIVE. IT DOESN'T. THE
INITIATIVE DOES NOT INCLUDE THE
PROVISIONS OF YOUR BILL. YOUR
BILL? I VOTED FOR TWICE. THAT
WOULD BE AN EXCELLENT COMPLEMENT
TO THE INITIATIVE. AND I. I
CANNOT SUPPORT IT BECAUSE OF THE
AMENDMENTS THAT YOU'VE AGREED TO
TAKE. IT'S A SHAME BECAUSE YOUR
BILL IS NEEDED, BUT NOT WITH THE
POISON PILL AMENDMENTS THAT
COMPROMISE. SO YOU HAVE A GOOD
IDEA. BUT YOU'VE NOW, CUT IT
OFF. AND I'M DISAPPOINTED TO SEE
THAT BECAUSE I WOULD HAVE LIKED
TO SEEN THAT IF TAKE EFFECT AT
THE SAME TIME WITH THE
INITIATIVE. SO THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. WELL, I APPRECIATE YOUR
PAST SUPPORT. I THINK IT WOULD
BE WISE FOR YOU TO CONTINUE THAT
SUPPORT. AND I THINK WHAT I'VE
DONE IS I'M SETTING THE RECORD
STRAIGHT. I'M MAKING IT CLEAR
THAT, YOU KNOW, THE BACKERS OF
THE INITIATIVE ARE TRYING TO
SELL IT AS SOMETHING THAT IS
GOING TO ADDRESS OUR RETAIL
THEFT PROBLEM, AND IT DOES NOT.
SO I'M MAKING IT CLEAR THAT THIS
IS WHAT IS GOING TO ADDRESS THAT
RETAIL THEFT PROBLEM. AND OUR
RETAILERS AGREE. NO, LET ME JUST
FINISH MY STATEMENT THEN. THE
INITIATIVE IS ADDRESSES CERTAIN
CRIMES. THESE PACKAGE OF RETAIL
THEFT CRIMES ARE AN EXCELLENT
ADDITION TO THE INITIATIVE AND
OVERALL MAKE A COMBINED STRONG
PACKAGE FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT AND
TO COMBAT ALL KINDS OF RETAIL
THEFT. SO TOGETHER THEY
COMPLEMENT ONE ANOTHER. BUT
YOU'VE NOW COMPROMISED IN MY
OPINION, YOUR BILL, BY ADDING
THIS POISON PILL. HAD YOU NOT
DONE THAT, THIS BILL WOULD HAVE
WIDE MORE WIDESPREAD SUPPORT. SO
WE NEED BOTH AND I AND WE NEED
WHAT'S IN THE INITIATIVE. AND WE
NEED YOUR TYPE OF BILLS ON THIS
PACKAGE OF BILLS WE'RE
DISCUSSING THIS MORNING. SO
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS, MR. ISAAC THANK YOU.
SENATOR, THIS IS A AN ACTUAL,
THOUGHTFUL APPROACH TO
ADDRESSING A COMPLEX PROBLEM.
LET'S JUST BE CLEAR. THE
INITIATIVE IS, A CLEAR REMINDER
OF THE DEEP CRIMINALIZATION OF
POVERTY THAT'S TAKEN PLACE IN
THIS COUNTRY FOR DECADES. RIGHT.
THE IDEA THAT, WE CAN SOLVE
RETAIL CRIME WITHOUT ADDRESSING
THE GROWING INCOME INEQUALITY,
THE GROWING EMERGENCE OF NEW
ONLINE MARKETPLACES, THE GROWING
CHANGES IN BOTH TECHNOLOGY AND
THE WAY WE LIVE IS, IS
IMPRACTICAL. THIS IS A
THOUGHTFUL AND SMART SOLUTION. I
WANT TO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING
IT FORWARD. AND IF THERE IS A
MOTION, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A
MOTION. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE
HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? OKAY. I'D
LIKE TO MAKE A SUBSTITUTE
MOTION. AND OUR VICE CHAIR WOULD
LIKE TO MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION
TO MOVE THE BILL. Dð PASSED THE
FLOOR AS CURRENTLY IN PRINT
WITHOUT AMENDMENTS. SO WE HAVE A
SUBSTITUTE MOTION BY MISS
SANCHEZ TO MOVE THE BILL AS Dð
PASS, DO WE HAVE A SECOND SECOND
BY MR. TO SO MEMBERS, THE CHAIR
IS ASKING FOR A NO ON THE VICE
CHAIR, AND VICE CHAIR IS ASKING
FOR AN EYE ON THE SUBSTITUTE
MOTION. THE MOTION BEFORE US IS
SUBSTITUTE. MOTIONS DO PASS. NØ
WICKS. NO WICKS. NO. SANCHEZ.
SANCHEZ. I ARAMBULA ARAMBULA.
NO. BRIAN BRIAN. NO. CALDERON.
NO. COUNTER ON. NO. BERMAN.
BERMAN. NO. DIXON DIXON. I MIKE.
FONG. GRAYSON HANEY. HANEY. NO.
HART HOT. NO. JIM. PATTERSON.
JIM PATTERSON I. PELLERIN. TO
TOR I AGUIAR-CURRY. AGUIAR-CURRY
NO. NO AGUIAR-CURRY. NO. THAT
THAT MEASURE FAILS. CHAIR. MAY I
CLOSE ON THE MAIN MOTION OR
CLOSE? YES. AND LET ME JUST SO
WE DO HAVE A DO PASS, AS AMENDED
IN A SECOND, SENATOR, WOULD YOU
LIKE TO CLOSE? THANKS SO MUCH, I
THINK IN MY CLOSING, I'D LIKE TO
SAY, IS THAT WHAT WE NEED, OUR
LAW ENFORCEMENT FREE TO DO, WE
KNOW THAT ONE OF THE ISSUES
WE'VE BEEN FACING WITH, A
VARIETY OF OUR DIFFERENT CRIMES
IS, IS A WHAT WE WOULD CALL LACK
OF CLOSURE RATE. SO IN OTHER
WORDS, WE NEED TO HAVE LAW
ENFORCEMENT HAVE THE RESOURCES
AND THE TIME TO DEDICATE TO
ENFORCING OUR LAWS AND THEN IN
DOING SO, ALLOWING THEN OUR
PROSECUTION TO, TO, TO GET THESE
PEOPLE. THAT'S WHAT WHAT WE'VE
SEEN ALL THE RESEARCH SHOWS THAT
THE LARGEST DETERRENT TO CRIME
IS GETTING CAUGHT. AND SO WE
NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR LAW
ENFORCEMENT HAS THE ABILITY TO
DO THAT. AND DISTRACTING THEM
WITH THINGS THAT DO NOT GET TO
THE HEART OF SOLVING THE
PROBLEM, WHICH FOR EXAMPLE, WHAT
THIS BILL DOES, IT GETS AT THE
HEART OF SOLVING THE PROBLEM OF
OUR ORGANIZED RETAIL THEFT AND
ALLOWS THEN LAW ENFORCEMENT TO
PUT THEIR ENERGIES WHERE IT'S
REALLY GOING TO PROVE RESULTS
FOR US. AND WITH THAT, I ASK FOR
YOUR I VOTE. THANK YOU. THE THE
MOTION IS Dð PASS AS AMENDED.
WE'RE BACK TO THE ORIGINAL
MOTION. DO PASS IS AMENDED.
WICKS I WICKS I SANCHEZ.
SANCHEZ. NÓ ARAMBULA ARAMBULA I
BRIAN I BRIAN I CALDERA I
CALDERON I BERMAN. BERMAN I
DIXON. DIXON. KNOW MIKE FONG
GRAYSON HANEY. HANEY I HOT HOT I
JIM PATTERSON, JIM PATTERSON NØ
PELLERIN TO TANO AGUILAR. CURRY.
AGUILAR. CURRY I. 8 TO 4. 8 TO
4. THAT PASSES AND WILL ALLOW
FOLKS TO ADD ON. THANK YOU
SENATOR OKAY. NEXT UP WE HAVE
SENATOR MINH YOU ARE PRESENTING
SB 1242. PLEASE BEGIN WHEN
YOU'RE READY.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR AND
COMMITTEE MEMBERS, AS PART OF
THE SENATE'S SAFER CALIFORNIA
PLAN, SB 1242 WOULD AUTHORIZE
HIGHER PENALTIES FOR THOSE THAT
COMMIT ARSON IN ORDER TO
FACILITATE RETAIL THEFT. RETAIL
THEFT, AS WE KNOW, HAS BECOME
INCREASINGLY SOPHISTICATED IN
RECENT YEARS WITH SCENARIOS
WHERE FIRE IS BEING USED TO
DISTRACT EMPLOYEES WHILE
SUSPECTS EXIT WITH STOLEN
MERCHANDISE. THIS DANGEROUS
DIVERSIONARY TACTIC ENDANGERS
LIVES AND DISRUPTS BUSINESS
OPERATIONS. STORES NOT ONLY LOSE
THE STOLEN MERCHANDISE, BUT
SUFFER DAMAGE TO THEIR BUILDINGS
AND MERCHANDISE, SOMETIMES
HAVING TO CLOSE FOR WEEKS TO
MAKE REPAIRS. SB 1242 IS
SPECIFIED FOR THE FOR THE CRIME
OF RECKLESS ARSON. THE FACT THAT
THE OFFENSE WAS CARRIED OUT
WITHIN A MERCHANT'S PREMISES IN
ORDER TO FACILITATE ORGANIZED
RETAIL THEFT SHALL BE A FACTOR
IN AGGRAVATION AT SENTENCING. I
HAVE WITH ME, RYAN. ELAINE SEEMS
FAMILIAR, DIRECTOR OF
GOVERNMENT, GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS
FOR THE CALIFORNIA RETAILERS
ASSOCIATION. THANK YOU, SENATOR
MANN. MEMBERS AGAIN. RYAN.
ELAINE, DIRECTOR OF GOVERNMENT
AFFAIRS, THE CALIFORNIA
RETAILERS ASSOCIATION. PLEASURE
TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF SB 1242,
JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW
EXAMPLES OF WHY THIS IS NEEDED.
LAST SEPTEMBER IN SOUTHERN
CALIFORNIA, 40 A WOMAN WAS TAKEN
INTO CUSTODY FOR A CONNECTION TO
A FIRE AT A POPULAR RETAILER,
WHERE SHE SET FIRE TO BABY
CLOTHES SECTION AT A STORE.
ACCORDING TO THE INVESTIGATION,
THE FIRES WERE INTENTIONALLY SET
TO COVER AN ATTEMPT TO STEAL,
AND THE FIRE CAUSED $500,000 IN
DAMAGE TO THE BUILDING AND $1
MILLION IN DAMAGE TO THE
PRODUCT, LAST YEAR, IN LAST
JUNE, HERE IN SACRAMENTO, WHILE
SHOPPERS WERE IN A STORE, A FIRE
WAS SET INSIDE WHILE A CAREFULLY
ORCHESTRATED TEAM WALKED OUT
WITH HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS OF
MERCHANDISE. THE FIRE FORCED THE
STORE TO CLOSE FOR WEEKS DUE TO
DAMAGE AND RESTOCK PRODUCT, AND
THEN LAST YEAR AT THAT TIME,
ACCORDING TO THE SACRAMENTO
METRO FIRE, THEY ACKNOWLEDGED
THAT THIS IS ORGANIZED CRIME
BECAUSE THEY HAVE AND THE
PREMEDITATED, PREMEDITATED
NATURE, ARSON WITHIN RETAIL
ESTABLISHMENTS POSES A SEVERE
THREAT NOT ONLY TO PROPERTY BUT
TO HUMAN LIFE. THESE
ESTABLISHMENTS ARE NOT JUST
BUILDINGS. THERE ARE HUBS OF
ECONOMIC ACTIVITY WHERE
INDIVIDUALS EARN THEIR
LIVELIHOODS. WHEN ARSON STRIKES,
THE CONSEQUENCES RIPPLE FAR
BEYOND THE PHYSICAL DAMAGE AND
THEN ALSO THE ECONOMIC
REPERCUSSIONS OF ARSON WITHIN
RETAIL STORES ARE SIGNIFICANT.
SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS INVEST
THEIR TIME, RESOURCES AND
PASSION INTO THEIR
ESTABLISHMENTS. WHEN THE
BUSINESSES FALL VICTIM TO ARSON,
NOT ONLY RESULTS IN FINANCIAL
LOSS BUT DISRUPTS THE LOCAL
ECONOMY AS THEY ARE CLOSED FOR
WEEKS OR EVEN MONTHS BY ENACTING
LEGISLATION TO INCREASE
PENALTIES FOR ARSON WITHIN
RETAIL STORES, WE SEND A CLEAR
MESSAGE THAT SUCH SUCH CRIMES
WILL NOT BE TOLERATED. THANK
YOU. AND I ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ADDITIONAL
FOLKS IN THE ROOM WISH TO
EXPRESS SUPPORT? ANY WITNESSES
IN OPPOSITION? OKAY. ANY ANY
ELSE? ANYONE ELSE IN THE ROOM
WISH TO EXPRESS OPPOSITION?
OKAY. WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE. ANY QUESTIONS FROM
MEMBERS? VICE Ó. ALSO, DO YOU
ACCEPT THE AMENDMENTS, YES WE
DO. YES. OKAY, GREAT. AND, VICE
CHAIR. THANK YOU. SENATOR. THIS
BILL NOW INCLUDES THE AMENDMENT
THAT WOULD REPEAL IT ENTIRELY.
IF A PUBLIC SAFETY INITIATIVE
PASSES IN NOVEMBER. YOUR DEAL,
YOUR BILL DEALS WITH RECKLESS
BURNING AND HAS NOTHING TO DO
WITH THE INITIATIVE. WHY DOES
YOUR BILL NOW REPEAL ITSELF? IF
THE INITIATIVE PASSES, THANK YOU
FOR THE QUESTION, ASSEMBLYWOMAN.
VICE CHAIR, MY UNDERSTANDING IS
THAT IN TALKING WITH LEDGE
COUNCIL AND AS PART OF THE
BROADER, SENATE SAFER CALIFORNIA
PACKAGE, THE TWO PROVISIONS IN
QUESTION, THE URGENCY AMENDMENT
AND THE INOPERABILITY AMENDMENT
WERE ADDED AS OMNIBUS ADDITIONS.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE ACCEPTED
THOSE AMENDMENTS AS BEING
NECESSARY TO THE BILL. AT THE
END OF THE DAY, IT'S A GOOD
BILL, WANTED TO SUPPORT IT
REGARDLESS. AND SO IT'S SOLVING
A REAL PROBLEM. ONE THAT I THINK
WE KNOW IS BECOMING MORE
PROBLEMATIC ACROSS CALIFORNIA,
CAME UP HERE TO TRY TO SOLVE
PROBLEMS AND I KNOW THERE'S A
LOT OF POLITICS AROUND THIS BILL
AND AROUND THE INITIATIVE.
YOU'RE MENTIONING, TRYING TO
JUST GET PROBLEMS SOLVED HERE.
SO FOLLOW UP QUESTION. WHERE ARE
THE INITIATIVE? DOES IT DEAL
WITH RECKLESS BURNING? CAN YOU
POINT? I'M SORRY. AND I'LL BE
HONEST, I HAVE NOT HAD TIME TO
REVIEW THE INITIATIVE. I'VE GOT
A LOT ON MY PLATE THESE DAYS. AT
THE POINT IN TIME WHEN THE
BALLOT IS FINALIZED, I'M GOING
TO TAKE A LOOK AT ALL THE
INITIATIVES ON THAT BALLOT AND,
YOU KNOW, TAKE A LOOK AT THEM.
BUT I HONESTLY HAVE NOT HAD TIME
TO REVIEW IT. WE HAVE A MOTION.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? WE HAVE A
SECOND. I ACTUALLY DID NOT KNOW
WHAT IT WAS CALLED UNTIL YOU
JUST MENTIONED IT. TO BE HONEST
WITH YOU, I'M JUST DISAPPOINTED
THESE AMENDMENTS THAT YOU GUYS
ARE FORCING INTO YOUR BILLS WILL
DENY CALIFORNIA VOTERS A FAIR
VOTE ON THE UPCOMING PUBLIC
SAFETY INITIATIVE. YOUR ACTIONS
ARE GOING TO TILT THE PLAYING
FIELD AGAINST THIS INITIATIVE
WITH ZERO POLICY JUSTIFICATION.
IT'S ANTI-DEMOCRAT. IT'S UNFAIR.
AND TO BE FRANK, IT'S BORDERLINE
CORRUPT. MADAM CHAIR, I CANNOT
SUPPORT THESE BILLS TODAY AND
IT'S TRULY UNFORTUNATE YOU'VE
TURNED WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN A
BIPARTISAN ACCOMPLISHMENT INTO
POLITICAL GAMESMANSHIP. THANK
YOU, VICE CHAIR, SENATOR, WOULD
YOU LIKE TO CLOSE. THANK YOU. I
WOULD JUST SAY AGAIN, THE
POLITICS OF THIS ASIDE, I HOPE
THIS IS A BIPARTISAN BILL AND
THAT YOU'LL CONSIDER VOTING FOR
IT BECAUSE I THINK IT'S GOOD
POLICY. AT THE END OF THE DAY, I
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR I VOTE
WE HAVE WE HAVE A MOTION. MR.
BERMAN, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS? YEAH. AS SOME OF MY
COLLEAGUES ARE POSTURING AND
PLAYING POLITICS WITH GOOD
POLICY, I'D LIKE TO NOTE THAT IT
WAS THE MINORITY LEADER,
MINORITY LEADER GALLAGHER, WHO
ADMITTED TO THE PRESS ON THE
RECORD THAT THE PROPOSITION IS
GOOD POLITICS FOR THEM. SO I'D
ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES ON THE
OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE TO LOOK
IN THE MIRROR AND ACKNOWLEDGE
THE COMMENTS THAT ARE BEING MADE
BY THEIR LEADERSHIP ABOUT
PLAYING POLITICS WITH GOOD
POLICY FOR THE PEOPLE OF
CALIFORNIA. THANK YOU, MR.
BERMAN, WE HAVE A MOTION TO DO
PASS, AS AMENDED, AND WE'VE GOT
A SECOND ON THAT. I BELIEVE. AND
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'D LIKE TO
MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION, OUR
VICE CHAIR IS MAKING A
SUBSTITUTE MOTION TO MOVE THE
BILL. Dð PASS TO THE FLOOR IS
CURRENTLY IN PRINT WITHOUT
AMENDMENTS. WE HAVE A SUBSTITUTE
MOTION BY SANCHEZ TO MOVE THE
BILL. DO PASS, AND WE HAVE A
SECOND ON THAT, A SECOND ON
THAT. THE CHAIR IS ASKING FOR A
NO. THE VICE CHAIR IS ASKING FOR
AN AYE. MOTION IS Dð. PASS ON A
SUBSTITUTE MOTION. WICKS. NO.
WICKS. NO. SANCHEZ SANCHEZ I
ARAMBULA ARAMBULA. NO. BRIAN
CALDERON. NO CALDERON. NO.
BERMAN. BERMAN. NO DIXON. DIXON.
I MIKE FONG. GRACE AN. HANEY.
HOT HOT. NO. JIM PATTERSON. JIM.
PATTERSON I PELLERIN TO TARR I
AGUIAR-CURRY AGUIAR-CURRY. NO.
THAT MOTION FAILS. SENATOR,
WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE AGAIN? I
KNOW THERE'S POLITICS ON BOTH
SIDES OF THIS. I THINK THIS IS
GOOD POLICY. I RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR YOUR I VOTE. GREAT. WE ARE
BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION AS
Dð PASS, AS AMENDED. PLEASE CALL
THE ROLL. WICKS. Ã. WICKS. AYE
SANCHEZ. SANCHEZ. NØ. ARAMBULA
ARAMBULA. AYE. BRIAN. CALDERON
AYE. CALDERON. AYE. BERMAN.
BERMAN AYE. DIXON. DIXON. NO.
MIKE. FONG GRAYSON. HANEY. HART
HOT. AYE. JIM. PATTERSON. JIM
PATTERSON. NO. PELLERIN TO. TO.
NO. AGUIAR-CURRY AGUIAR-CURRY.
AYE. THE MEASURES ON CALL. THANK
YOU, SENATOR. AND I KNOW WE HAVE
ONE MORE ITEM IS FOR SPECIAL
ORDER OF BUSINESS BY SENATOR
NEWMAN, WHO I BELIEVE IS
CHAIRING A COMMITTEE AT THE
MOMENT. SO WE WILL GO TO OUR
BILLS, HEARD, OUR REGULAR ORDER
OF BUSINESS, THAT IS, I BELIEVE.
OKAY AND I KNOW WE'RE HAVING TWO
BILLS PRESENTED. I BELIEVE MR.
BRADFORD AND MR. LAIRD. AND IF
YOU ARE WATCHING MR. BRADFORD OR
MR. LAIRD, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO
JOIN US IN ASSEMBLY
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE, WHILE
WE WAIT FOR THEM, WE WILL GET
BACK TO, LET'S TAKE THE CONSENT
CALENDAR. DO WE HAVE A MOTION?
THE MOTION BY MISS AGUIAR-CURRY.
A SECOND BY MR. HART. MADAM
SECRETARY, PLEASE READ THE
CONSENT CALENDAR. THE FOLLOWING
BILLS ARE ALL SENATE BILLS. 931
COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENTAL
ORGANIZATION 949 BLAKE SPEER.
TEN ZERO NINE. DALI 1024. OCHOA
BOGH 1034. SATO 1044. SATO 1172.
GROVE 1215. COMMITTEE ON
GOVERNMENTAL ORGANIZATION 1224.
OCHOA BORG 1225 JONES 1226.
CORTESE 1257 BLAKE SPEER 1320.
WAHAB 1385. ROTH 1464. ASHBY
1495. WILK 1519. COMMITTEE ON
GOVERNMENTAL ORGANIZATION 1520.
COMMITTEE ON NATURAL RESOURCES
AND WATER 1529. COMMITTEE ON
MILITARY AND VETERANS AFFAIRS
AND 1530. COMMITTEE ON MILITARY
AND VETERANS AFFAIRS. THIS IS
KANSEN WICKS A WICKS I SANCHEZ.
THIS IS CONSENT CALENDAR. I
SANCHEZ. I ARAMBULA ARAMBULA I
BRIAN. BRIAN I CALDERON.
CALDERON I BERMAN. BERMAN I
DIXON. DIXON. I MIKE. FONG.
GRAYSON. HANEY HOT, HOT I JIM
PATTERSON JIM PATTERSON I
PELLERIN. PELLERIN I TARR. TARR
I AGUIAR-CURRY AGUIAR-CURRY I.
12 TO 0 CONSENT CALENDAR IS
ADOPTED. THE CONSENT CALENDAR IS
ADOPTED. I'D LIKE TO DISPENSE
WITH THE SUSPENSE CALENDAR.
MADAM SECRETARY, WOULD YOU
PLEASE READ THE SUSPENSE
CALENDAR? THE FOLLOWING BILLS
ARE ALL SENATE BILLS 24. UMBERG
227. DURAZZO 399. WAHAB 551.
PORTANTINO NÓ 782. LIMON 908.
CORTEZ 1015 CORTEZ 1131 GONZALES
AND 1175 OCHOA. BOGH. THE
SUSPENSE CALENDAR IS DEEMED
APPROVED SO WE ARE NOW WAITING
ON A COUPLE AUTHORS. THREE
MISTER NEWMAN FOR THE SPECIAL
ORDER. MISTER BRADFORD AND
MISTER LAIRD, YOU ARE WELCOME TO
JOIN US IN THE ASSEMBLY
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE.
WE. AND WE HAVE SENATOR NEWMAN
ARRIVING, MAKING A GRAND
ENTRANCE. HE RAN. APPARENTLY.
OKAY, MISTER NEWMAN, YOU ARE
PRESENTING SB 1416. YOU MAY
BEGIN WHEN YOU ARE READY. IF YOU
COULD TURN ON THE MIC NOW. DIXON
WAS PRESENTING A BILL IN MY
COMMITTEE. COULD NOT LEAVE
MIDSTREAM. AND THAT STREAM GOES
LONG. SO SO I APPRECIATE IT. SO,
MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS, AGAIN,
APOLOGIES TO MAKE YOU WAIT
FIRST, BEFORE I START, I'D LIKE
TO MAKE CLEAR I'M WILLING TO
TAKE THE COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS
AND THANK YOU FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT SB 1416,
WHICH CREATES A SET OF
ESCALATING ENHANCEMENTS FOR
MIDDLEMEN FOUND GUILTY OF
PROFITING FROM THE SALE.
EXCHANGE RETURN, OR ATTEMPTED
RESALE OF ITEMS OBTAINED THROUGH
ORGANIZED RETAIL THEFT. AS
YOU'RE AWARE, INCREASINGLY
SOPHISTICATED ORGANIZED RETAIL
THEFT OPERATIONS OFTEN INVOLVE
MULTIPLE PEOPLE COLLABORATING IN
A COORDINATED EFFORT TO STEAL
MERCHANDISE FROM MULTIPLE
STORES, THEREBY MAXIMIZING THE
AMOUNT OF STOLEN GOODS
AGGREGATED FOR EVENTUAL RESALE.
THIS IS A DISCONCERTING
BYPRODUCT OF THE EVOLUTION OF
SOCIAL MEDIA AND THE RISE OF
ONLINE MARKETPLACES, AND IT
CREATES A FRICTIONLESS BASIS FOR
INDIVIDUALS OR SYNDICATES TO
SEAMLESSLY COORDINATE THE
ACTIVITIES OF OTHERS TO STEAL,
AGGREGATE AND THEN RESELL STOLEN
GOODS, OFTEN USING SOME OF THE
SAME PLATFORMS THAT WE USE TO
BUY ALL OF OUR OTHER STUFF. AS A
PRIME EXAMPLE OF THIS
PHENOMENON, EARLIER THIS MONTH,
A 71 YEAR OLD MAN AND HIS 39
YEAR OLD ACCOMPLICE WERE
ARRESTED AND CHARGED IN LONG
BEACH WITH STEALING MORE THAN
2800 BOXES OF LEGOS IN SETS
WHOSE VALUES RANGED FROM $20 TO
WELL OVER $1,000. A SUBSEQUENT
INVESTIGATION REVEALED THAT AT
LEAST SOME OF THE MERCHANDISE
HAD BEEN STOLEN FROM TARGET
STORES IN THE SOUTHERN
CALIFORNIA AREA, BUT THAT THE
STOLEN LEGO SETS ARE BEING SOLD
TO BUYERS BOTH LOCALLY AND
ACROSS THE COUNTRY THROUGH
ONLINE LISTINGS ON PLATFORMS
LIKE AMAZON, FACEBOOK
MARKETPLACE, ETC. AND SO THIS IS
WHERE WE ARE A SOPHISTICATED
FENCING RING FOR STOLEN LEGOS,
OF ALL THINGS. THIS ISN'T EVEN
THE FIRST INSTANCE OF LEGO
CENTRIC ORGANIZED RETAIL THEFT,
AS A RESULT OF THE MARKET FOR
COLLECTION WORTHY SETS, BUT ALSO
FOR OTHER HIGH VALUE GOODS,
WE'VE SEEN DEMAND IN SHORT
SUPPLY AND ORGANIZED RETAIL
THEFT IS HAPPY ENOUGH TO MEET
THAT SUPPLY. THIS BILL IS A
COMPONENT OF THE SENATE'S
WORKING TOGETHER FOR SAFER
CALIFORNIA. WHAT THIS BILL DOES,
IT PROVIDES A SERIES OF
ENHANCEMENTS BASED ON THE VALUE
OF MERCHANDISE SOLD TO BETTER
PUNISH, BUT HOPEFULLY DETER THE
KINDS OF SOPHISTICATED
OPERATIONS THAT WE'VE
INCREASINGLY BEEN SEEING BY
ENHANCING THE CRIMINAL PENALTIES
ASSOCIATED WITH ORGANIZED RETAIL
THEFT. SB 1416 WILL BETTER
SAFEGUARD CALIFORNIA'S
BUSINESSES BY DETERRING THOSE
HOPING TO PROFIT FROM RETAIL
THEFT. I AM RESPECTFULLY ASKING
FOR YOUR. I VOTE TODAY. THANK
YOU. SENATOR, DO WE HAVE ANY
ADDITIONAL DO YOU HAVE ANY
PRIMARY WITNESSES IN SUPPORT? I
DO NOT OKAY. ANY ADDITIONAL
FOLKS IN THE ROOM WISH TO
EXPRESS SUPPORT. RYAN. ELAINA,
WE HAVE THE CALIFORNIA RETAILERS
ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT. THANK
YOU. ANY, WITNESSES OR IN
OPPOSITION? ANY ADDITIONAL FOLKS
IN THE ROOM WISH TO EXPRESS
OPPOSITION, NAME, ORGANIZATION
AND POSITION? PLEASE GOOD
MORNING, MADAM CHAIR. MEMBERS,
RYAN SHERMAN WITH THE A BUNCH OF
DIFFERENT LAW ENFORCEMENT
ASSOCIATIONS. I'LL GET TO IN A
SECOND, WE SUPPORT THE BILL AS
IT IS IN PRINT. HOWEVER, WE'RE
OPPOSED TO THE AMENDMENTS. THAT
ARE GOING TO INCLUDE THE
INOPERABILITY WE FULLY SUPPORT
AND THANK THE SENATOR FOR HIS
WORK ON THIS BILL. AND, WE
BELIEVE THAT, IF THE BILL IS
WORTHY OF PASSAGE AND SO
IMPORTANT THAT AN URGENCY CLAUSE
IS NECESSARY, WHY ISN'T IT
WORTHY TO STAY ON THE BOOKS?
SPEAKING ON BEHALF TODAY OF THE
RIVERSIDE SHERIFFS ASSOCIATION,
CALIFORNIA NARCOTIC OFFICERS
ASSOCIATION, THE RESERVE PEACE
OFFICERS ASSOCIATION, AND THE
POLICE OFFICER ASSOCIATIONS OF
ARCADIA, BURBANK, CLAREMONT,
CORONA, CULVER CITY, FULLERTON,
MURRIETA, NEWPORT BEACH, NOVATO,
PALOS VERDES, POMONA, RIVERSIDE,
SANTA ANA, AND UPLAND, AND THE
DEPUTY SHERIFFS ASSOCIATION OF
PLACER COUNTY. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS
FROM THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS?
OKAY. DO WE HAVE A MOTION, A
MOTION, AND DO WE HAVE A SECOND,
SECOND, MADAM VICE CHAIR, I'D
LIKE TO MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION
TO MOVE THE BILL DUE. PASS THE
FLOOR AS CURRENTLY IN PRINT
WITHOUT AMENDMENTS. WE HAVE A
SUBSTITUTE MOTION BY VICE CHAIR
SANCHEZ TO MOVE THE BILL. Dð
PASS, DO WE HAVE A SECOND ON
THAT? MISS DIXON IS GOING TO
SECOND THAT. WE DID, BUT YOU
CAN. LET'S GET THROUGH THIS, AND
THEN I'LL GO BACK TO YOU. YEAH,
THE CHAIR IS ASKING FOR NÓ VOTE,
AND THE VICE CHAIR IS ASKING FOR
AN AYE VOTE ON THE SUBSTITUTE
MOTION. MISS DIXON IS THE SECOND
ON THAT. MADAM SECRETARY. WICKS
NÓ WICKS NÓ SANCHEZ. SANCHEZ I
ARAMBULA ARAMBULA. NO, BRIAN.
BRIAN, NO. CALDERON. NO.
CALDERON. NO. BERMAN BERMAN. NO.
DIXON DIXON. I MIKE. FONG MIKE.
FONG. NO. GRAYSON HANEY. HOT
HANEY. NO HOT. NO. JIM.
PATTERSON JIM. PATTERSON. AYE.
PELLERIN PELLERIN. NO. TARA T I.
AGUIAR-CURRY AGUIAR-CURRY. NO.
FOR TEN, THAT MEASURE FAILS.
WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE FOR QUESTIONS. MISS
DIXON, THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIR.
SENATOR. GOOD. BILL. I
APPRECIATE YOUR BILL AND OUR
EFFORTS TO DEAL WITH CRIME IN
OUR COMMUNITIES. HOWEVER, I'M
DISAPPOINTED WITH THE AMENDMENTS
THAT YOU AGREED TO TAKE BECAUSE
I BELIEVE IT'S SINCERELY
COMPROMISES YOUR EFFORTS THAT
YOU'VE WORKED SO HARD ON THE
INITIATIVE. IT DOES NOT OVERLAP
WITH THE INITIATIVE. SO IT'S AN
EXCELLENT COMPLEMENTARY MEASURE
FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT, AS YOU'VE
JUST HEARD, IS STRONGLY IN
SUPPORT. JUST IN THE LAST 24
HOURS, WE'VE RECEIVED OVER 3500
SIGNATURES, OR FROM PEOPLE
SAYING, KEEP THESE BILLS, BUT
DON'T KEEP THAT AMENDMENT. AND
SO I'M SO SORRY THAT I CANNOT
SUPPORT YOUR VOTE FOR YOUR BILL.
IT'S A GOOD BILL, BUT BECAUSE OF
THIS EFFORT TO PUT A POISON PILL
, IT IT AND DISCOURAGES THE
INITIATIVE. AND 900,000 PEOPLE
SUPPORT THE INITIATIVE AND WANT
TO COMBAT CRIME IN OUR
COMMUNITY, INCLUDING YOUR BILL.
I'M SORRY. THIS WHOLE PACKAGE
HAS TO BE TREATED THIS WAY, BUT
I LIKED YOUR BILL SO I'LL HAVE
TO VOTE. NO. THANK YOU.
APPRECIATE TIME. ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS? OKAY. WE HAVE A, A
MOTION AND A SECOND. WOULD YOU
LIKE TO CLOSE? SENATOR, I THANK
YOU FOR THE CONSIDERATION. I
UNDERSTAND YOU'VE HAD SOME
VERSION OF THIS CONVERSATION
EARLIER IN THE COMMITTEE
HEARING. THIS BILL IS PART OF A
LARGER PACKAGE. THIS PACKAGE
TAKES PLACE IN A DYNAMIC
ENVIRONMENT, HAS A LARGER
CONTEXT, THE BILL STAND STANDS
ON ITS MERITS. THE URGENCY
CLAUSE, AMONG OTHER THINGS,
WOULD ALLOW FOR ITS
IMPLEMENTATION IMMEDIATELY, AND
I AM RESPECTFULLY ASKING FOR AN
AYE VOTE TODAY. APPRECIATE YOUR
WORK, SENATOR, WITH THAT, WE
HAVE A MOTION, DO PASS AS
AMENDED. AND WE HAVE A SECOND.
WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL?
WICKS. AYE. WICKS. AYE SANCHEZ.
SANCHEZ. NÓ. ARAMBULA ARAMBULA
NOT VOTING. BRIAN NO. BRIAN. NO.
CALDERON NO. CALDERON. NO. WE'RE
ON THE ORIGINAL MOTION. DO PASS,
AS AMENDED. I COUNT ON EYE.
BERMAN BERMAN. EYE. DIXON.
DIXON. NO MIKE. FONG. MIKE.
FONG. AYE. GRAYSON HANEY. HANEY.
I HOT, HOT I JIM PATTERSON. JIM.
PATTERSON. NO. PELLERIN.
PELLERIN I TO NO. AGUIAR-CURRY
AGUIAR-CURRY I. 8 TO 5. THAT
MEASURE PASSES. WE'LL LET FOLKS
ADD ON. THANK YOU SENATOR. THANK
YOU CHAIR. THANK YOU MEMBERS.
AND NOW WE WILL GO BACK TO OUR
REGULAR ORDER OF BUSINESS. WE
HAVE MR. LAIRD, I BELIEVE,
WALKED IN FIRST. WE'VE GOT A
MOTION AND A SECOND. MR. LAIRD,
SB 1097, I BELIEVE YOU ARE
PRESENTING. THANK YOU. I SHOULD
KNOW BETTER AFTER A MOTION. AND
SECOND, BUT THIS IS GENDER
INCLUSIVE LANGUAGE FOR THE
VETERANS CODE PLUS TWO OTHER
PROVISIONS. I DID A BILL TWO
YEARS AGO BECAUSE THE FIRST
WOMAN WAS EVER APPOINTED,
HIGHWAY PATROL COMMISSIONER, AND
EVERY REFERENCE IN THE CODE
REFERRED TO THE COMMISSIONER'S.
HE NOW WE HAVE A WOMAN AS
SECRETARY OF VETERANS AFFAIRS
AND, AND, MANY WOMEN THAT HAVE
SERVED AND THIS TAKES CARE OF
THAT LANGUAGE TO MAKE IT
INCLUSIVE. IT HAS NO REGISTERED
OPPOSITION. IT HAS HAD NO NO
VOTES. IT WAS UP IN CONSENT IN
ASSEMBLY VETERANS AND PASSED THE
SENATE FLOOR 32 TO 0. I
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST FOR NÓI
VOTE. THANK YOU. SENATOR LAIRD.
ANY FOLKS IN THE ROOM WISH TO
EXPRESS SUPPORT? ANYONE WISH TO
EXPRESS OPPOSITION IN WE. I
BELIEVE WE HAVE A MOTION A
SECOND. ANY FOLKS HAVE ANY
QUESTIONS FOR THE SENATOR? OKAY.
SENATOR, WOULD YOU LIKE TO
CLOSE? THANK YOU FOR THE LENGTHY
DELIBERATION. AND I RESPECTFULLY
REQUEST A NO VOTE. THAT IS OUT
ON A CALL, AN A, A ROLL CALL
WITH MR. TO NOT VOTING. THANK
YOU. OKAY. WE ARE JUST WAITING
ON MR. BRADFORD. OH THERE'S
SENATOR BRADFORD RIGHT THERE
STEPPING UP TO THE PLATE. THIS
GUY'S A HE'S A GOOD BASEBALL
PLAYER MR. BRADFORD IS. YOU'RE
PRESENTING SB 924. YES NEED TO
PRESENT, SB 924. IT SIMPLY
REMOVES THE SUNSET ON A PIECE OF
LEGISLATION I PASSED IN 2020.
SIMPLY ALLOWS, LANDLORDS OF
ASSISTED RENT TO PROVIDE OR
OFFER THOSE TENANTS THE
OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THEIR
PAYMENTS REPORTED TO A CREDIT
UNION. WE'VE SEEN SINCE THE FOUR
YEARS IT WAS PASSED, JUST OVER
3000 PEOPLE WHO WERE INVISIBLE,
VISIBLE TO THE CREDIT REPORTING
SYSTEM NOW HAVE CREDIT. THIS
JUST REMOVES THE SUNSET AND
MAKES IT A PERMANENT PROGRAM.
AND I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR
I VOTE. THANK YOU. ANY FOLKS IN
THE ROOM WISH TO EXPRESS SUPPORT
OR OPPOSITION? OKAY, WE'LL BRING
IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE. ANY
QUESTIONS? WE HAVE A MOTION BY
MR. HANEY. SECOND BY MR.
ARAMBULA. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
OH, PLEASE, MISS CALDERON,
SENATOR, I JUST WANT TO THANK
YOU FOR BRINGING THIS BILL
FORWARD. I THINK IT'S A REALLY
GOOD BILL. THANK YOU. A LOT OF
PEOPLE. YES. APPRECIATE YOU.
THANK YOU. WOULD YOU LIKE TO
CLOSE, RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AYE
VOTE. THANK YOU. THAT IS OUT
WITH REPUBLICANS NOT VOTING.
THANK YOU. AND WE HAVE SORRY.
WE'VE GOT TO GO BACK TO ADD ON
FOR FOLKS THAT NEED TO ADD ON
FOR THIS BILL. IT'S ON CALL MR.
MINNS, MADAM SECRETARY, THIS
MEASURE IS ON CALL. IT'S SB
1242. THE MOTION IS TO PASS AS
AMENDED. BRIAN. BRIAN. NOT
VERDIN. MIKE FONG, MIKE. FONG I
GRAYSON. HANEY HANEY I PELLERIN.
PELLERIN. I. 9 TO 4. 9 TO 4.
THAT BILL IS OUT AND WE'LL GO
BACK. I THINK WE'VE HAD MR. FONG
AND OTHERS JOIN SINCE WE'VE
STARTED THAT NEED TO ADD ON.
OKAY FOR ADD ONS PURPOSES.
CONSENT CALENDAR. MIKE FONG,
MIKE FONG. AYE. GRAYSON HANEY.
CONSENT CALENDAR. CONSENT
CALENDAR. HANEY. AYE.
FOR PURPOSES OF ADD ON, MR.
NEWMAN'S BILL. SENATOR NEWMAN SB
1416. I HAVE EVERYBODY, THIS ONE
IS GOOD. MIKE FONG, PURPOSES OF
ADD ON TO SENATOR NEWMAN SB
1416. MIKE FONG I.
PURPOSES OF ADD ON. SENATOR
SKINNER SB 1144. MIKE FONG. MIKE
FONG. AYE. GRAYSON PELLERIN.
PURPOSES OF ADD ON. SENATOR
WAHAB'S BILL SB 982. MIKE FONG.
MIKE FONG. AYE. GRAYSON.
PURPOSES OF ADD ON SENATOR
WIENER'S BILL SB 905 BRIAN. MIKE
FONG, MIKE. FONG. AYE. GRAYSON.
THANK YOU, MR. FONG. AND DO WE
HAVE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC
WISH TO EXPRESS COMMENTS ON ANY
BILLS NOT PRESENTED? PLEASE
NAME, ORGANIZATION, POSITION ON
THE BILL. THANK YOU, MADAM
CHAIR. AARON AVERY WITH THE
CALIFORNIA SPECIAL DISTRICTS
ASSOCIATION RESPECTFULLY OPPOSED
TO SB 399. WAHAB, ALSO ON BEHALF
OF THE CALIFORNIA STATE
ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES LEAGUE
OF CALIFORNIA CITIES. URBAN
COUNTIES OF CALIFORNIA. RURAL
COUNTY REPRESENTATIVES OF
CALIFORNIA, AND THE ASSOCIATION
OF CALIFORNIA HEALTHCARE
DISTRICTS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
ANYONE ELSE IN THE ROOM WISH TO
EXPRESS SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION TO
ANY BILLS NOT PRESENTED? OKAY,
AND WE WILL HOLD THE ROLL OPEN,
FOR MR. GRAYSON, WHO I BELIEVE
IS ON HIS WAY.
SENATE-TV. SKINNER. BILL. SB
1144. PURPOSES OF ADD ON.
GRAYSON PELLERIN. PELLERIN, I.
10 TO 4. MEASURE PASSES.
MEETING'S ADJOURNED.